[12:01] <judah> yallaman: ah.. ok.
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: yes I now that, but I not undersand this example : if my current server machine died and I will be buy a new machine ( one amd k7), and I get out hd from p4 and insert into a new machine (amd) the startup will be change the kernel ? not right ? Or I will be need reinstall the  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server to detect new cpu ?
[12:01] <DShepherd> LjL: but i could be wrong :-)
[12:01] <JackRazz> ok judah, thanks
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: this is not clear for me
[12:01] <JackRazz> saved me some trouble trying to research it.
[12:01] <yallaman> hope this isnt a issue that it suddenly eats my cpu..without a reason:P
[12:01] <J_P> godmachine81: I understand that i need as a kernel k7 and p4 in grub to boot if i change cpu, , but would like use -server..
[12:01] <DShepherd> `blink: the one you entered when you were setting up the system
[12:01] <godmachine81> J_P,  like i said no the server package will only install the current running kernel type
[12:01] <`blink> during the install i set only password and hostname
[12:01] <Stromham> hey guys how do i change my splash screen?
[12:02] <`blink> no name...
[12:02] <godmachine81> J_P, do you only want to use "server" because it says server? or is there something you know about it that makes you want it for a particular reason
[12:02] <DShepherd> `blink: are you sure... try to remember again.. it should ask you to set a password
[12:02] <J_P> godmachine81: yes, so if i get out hd from a p4 and put on a amd k7 that not works, i need reinstall system for has  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server  running for current cpu type ?
[12:03] <`blink> no - i am sure
[12:03] <DShepherd> `blink: and a user name..
[12:03] <hyphenated> yallaman: I get unusual CPU reports because of a kernel bug
[12:03] <godmachine81> J_P,  no you just need to install the server kernel for both amd and p4 right now and you wont have to worry about that later on when you do move the hd to a different machine..
[12:03] <nickrud> !usplash > Stromham
[12:03] <Banana9> will ubuntu run on UltraSPARC-I cpu's?
[12:03] <godmachine81> J_P,  apt-cache search kernel |grep server
[12:04] <godmachine81> see if you see a server kernel for both amd and p4
[12:04] <DShepherd> `blink: well as far as I know, there's no default user that is set in the ubuntu installation.. so on that basis you may have entered the username and not have realised...
[12:04] <nickrud> godmachine81, it's linux | grep server on ubuntu
[12:05] <godmachine81> nickrud,  kernel will show it too
[12:05] <godmachine81> it would actually be linux-image |grep server
[12:05] <eegore> judah: finaly toyed with Dapper
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> my programs seem to be loading much slower in ubuntu
[12:05] <nickrud> godmachine81, true as well
[12:05] <J_P> godmachine81: has only one linux-image-server (for all arquitectures right) ?
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> any ideas what could be causing this ?
[12:05] <Ubuntnoob> ?
[12:05] <eegore> very impressed
[12:05] <dave_euser> is there a way to do a text-only install with dapper?
[12:05] <alex_> Question: is there software to sync palmtreo650 via bluetooth?
[12:05] <godmachine81> ok if its for all architectures then there ya go
[12:05] <nickrud> dave_euser, yes, get the alternate cd
[12:05] <DShepherd> nickrud: is the user home folder created before logining in for the first time?
[12:06] <`blink> nothing....
[12:06] <dave_euser> ok, thanks ;-) nice and easy...
[12:06] <godmachine81> J_P,  i dont know for sure, but dont be surprised if sound and other things dont work properly with that version of the kernel
[12:06] <nickrud> DShepherd, I would think it's made during the user creation phase
[12:06] <DShepherd> nickrud: ok thanks..
[12:06] <steveire> Well if anyone else wants to know how to do what I wanted with amarok, It's a Konqueror setting. change the command used for mpegs to amarok -a
[12:06] <DShepherd> `blink: how familiar are you with linux?
[12:06] <nickrud> DShepherd, I'm assuming that the install simply calls adduser
[12:06] <steveire> amarok -a percentU that is
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> my programs seem to be loading much slower in ubuntu
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> any ideas what could be causing this ?
[12:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: which creates the home folder even if the user hasnt logged in.. right?
[12:07] <alex_> Ubuntnoob: yourself? lol j/k
[12:07] <nickrud> DShepherd, yes
[12:07] <DShepherd> nickrud: thanks
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> :P
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> its weird
[12:07] <Inzoy> brb
[12:07] <Stormx2> Got a creative zen micro and I don't like using gnomad2
[12:07] <Ubuntnoob> even after reboot on a go slow
[12:07] <Stormx2> Any other software I could use?
[12:08] <dave_euser> just out of curiosity, anyone get dapper booting with an asus a8n5x and nvidia 7600? keeps getting stuck in X...
[12:08] <rpedro> Stormx2: amaroK!
[12:08] <dave_euser> google was no help... ;-(
[12:08] <DShepherd> `blink: do you have a live cd around? you boot into that and check the folder names under the home folder. you should maybe recognize one of those names..
[12:08] <BIAF> is apache got via apt-get for  ubuntu desktop version?
[12:08] <Stormx2> rpedro: Can I easily just queue up a tonne of folders to copy over to my zen micro?
[12:09] <LjL> BIAF: sure
[12:09] <DShepherd> `blink: as a matter of fact.. it should be the only name under the home folder..
[12:09] <anfangs> ubuntunoob: all your programs load slowly? How long is slow?
[12:09] <KuLover> Anyone here have sound probs while using Skype?
[12:09] <rpedro> Stormx2: it has special support for ipods an iRiver players, but has generic support for others
[12:10] <runes> KuLover, yes even on the 32bit  if I hang up prior to the caller it locks the sound card
[12:10] <DShepherd> `blink: do you have a live cd..?
[12:10] <`blink> its ok now
[12:10] <`blink> the name is oem
[12:10] <reazon> ...
[12:10] <DShepherd> `blink: and what's the password? :-)
[12:10] <KuLover> runes, So you think its because skype uses old OSS?
[12:11] <DShepherd> `blink: i;m just joking..
[12:11] <nickrud> `blink, ah, you need to run oem-config
[12:11] <BIAF> LjL : i noticed apt-get install apache gets nothing but apache2 does
[12:11] <nickrud> I think that is
[12:11] <KuLover> runes, The last linux version of skype was released last Oct
[12:11] <runes> KuLover, seems to be the going consensus
[12:11] <rpedro> Stormx2: just install it and try, it's a great player anyways, probably the best for linux , or any other OS I would say
[12:11] <DShepherd> nickrud: oem-config? never heard of that one? ubotu has info about this?
[12:12] <runes> KuLover, I have been able to run multiple mm aps with alsa withou locking the sound card--I go oss..Bang problems galore
[12:12] <LjL> BIAF: apache (version 1) is also in the repositories, but you must enable the Universe repository.  apache2 is in the Main repository.
[12:12] <swaj> I just did a "sudo apt-get install amsn" -- however aMSN looks incredibly pixelated, not like the rest of the OS which is clean and anti-aliased.  Anybody know how to fix this?
[12:12] <funkmaster> how do i run bootstrap on ubuntu?
[12:12] <nickrud> DShepherd, I don't know if ubotu does, it's the thing run during first boot after an oem config
[12:12] <nickrud> oem install, i mean
[12:12] <yallaman> anyone here have some experience making/editing themes for gnome?
[12:12] <runes> KuLover, but give Skype credit for releasing a linux version :)
[12:12] <BIAF> LjL : i need some form of apache for webmin, what one would you use
[12:12] <godmachine81> swaj,  thats the way aMSN is made.. its the widgets it uses
[12:12] <LjL> BIAF: i'm not so experienced with apache.
[12:12] <DShepherd> nickrud:  oh. and that should set up a user, oem-config that is..
[12:13] <BIAF> LjL : thx
[12:13] <Stormx2> rpedro: Nah I'm happy with my current media player
[12:13] <swaj> godmachine81, I've seen some shots of aMSN that look much better -- there's no way to clean up the fonts and nastiness?  if not I'll just install kopete
[12:13] <nickrud> DShepherd, yes. It allows resellers to pre-install ubuntu, and the buyer to set up the initial account
[12:13] <godmachine81> swaj,  there are some themes, and you can apply custom fonts to it, but you still have that tcl look to it
[12:13] <DShepherd> nickrud: ah,, makes sense.. thanks for the info.
[12:14] <funkmaster> how can i run bootstrap on ubuntu?
[12:14] <swaj> godmachine81, alright thanks.. I guess kopete is the way to go.. unless you know of a decent GTK msn client that isn't gaim?
[12:14] <godmachine81> swaj,  the menus will always have that look and feel
[12:14] <nickrud> funkmaster, there's some stuff about that under Installation on the wiki
[12:14] <funkmaster> swaj: kopete
[12:15] <funkmaster> nickru: the ubunut wiki?
[12:15] <godmachine81> swaj,  i only use gaim for it, of course it lacks some of the features that MSN for Windows tries to spoil you with...
[12:15] <nickrud> funkmaster, yes. I'm guessing you're talking about debootstrap
[12:15] <swaj> funkmaster, Kopete doesn't run under GTK last I checked -- wanted to avoid the KDElibs if possible
[12:15] <J_P> I not understand why not exist one -server for each arquitecture! :-(
[12:16] <Flannel> J_P: which arch you looking for?
[12:16] <godmachine81> J_P,  your making a big deal out of nothing, just install the linux-image-2.6-k7 and linux-image-2.6-686
[12:16] <funkmaster> i don't know actually, i just got the svn of vlc and i was told in order to be able to compile it i first need to run bootstrap
[12:16] <godmachine81> and be done with it
[12:16] <BIAF> LjL : where do i enable the Universe repository?
[12:16] <LjL> !universe
[12:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:17] <steveire> Stormx2: There's a few programs to connect to your creative, and I'm afraid gnomad is the best one. I don't think amarok connects to it anyway
[12:17] <LjL> BIAF: in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:17] <DShepherd> nickrud: ubotu does know about oem. not sure if what it knows is relevant though..
[12:17] <DShepherd> !oem
[12:17] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuquityKnownIssues
[12:17] <J_P> godmachine81: but if there are just -server for server, why I will br use -k7 and -686 understand ? I need do this only becouse don't are one -server for each arquitecture right!
[12:17] <Inzoy> at last
[12:17] <swaj> anybody know of a google talk client for Linux?
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, Gaim
[12:18] <Kibou> funkmaster: you probably just have to run ./bootstrap.sh inside the root directory of the vlc source
[12:18] <DShepherd> swaj: gaim?
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, or actually, any jabber client will do
[12:18] <rpedro> Stormx2: if you can mount your zen micro as a normal usb hdd, you can use amaroK to copy folders onto it, also amarok has quite a few plugins available, I usually use one to transcode into ogg directly to my player
[12:18] <Inzoy> it says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off"
[12:18] <swaj> google talk is jabber?  didn't know that :P
[12:18] <eobanb> swaj, it is indeed.
[12:18] <nickrud> DShepherd, I've never installed the oem version, but having an oem in home would lead me to look in that direction
[12:18] <godmachine81> only because that server kernel is going to be stripped and i dont understand your english very well.. i know that if you install the k7 and the 686 kernel when you move the hd you will be able to pick the appropriate kernel for the cpu from the menu..  the server kernel isnt going to make your machine any better just because it says server...
[12:19] <Inzoy> thats the last line.. above it says something about busybox, built-in shell and some other stuff
[12:19] <DShepherd> nickrud: i havent either.. that's why I was kinda clueless about the oem-config command. thanks again
[12:19] <Inzoy> now what?
[12:19] <godmachine81> i'd rather see you use the non-server kernel and not have problems than install the server kernel and come back in here wondering why something isnt working...
[12:19] <izhirahider> Can anyone tell me an alternative pt_PT mirror, since pt.archive.ubuntu.com does not work?
[12:19] <antinobody> Inzoy I'm looking up the error message on launchpad and ubuntuforums (and then google)
[12:19] <yallaman> ack..do i need to be a rocket scientist just to change the colours on my windows borders??
[12:20] <antinobody> I'm not familiar with it
[12:20] <godmachine81> antinobody, good look with that busybox error
[12:20] <godmachine81> the only solution i can think of is a reinstall.. it done it to me once] 
[12:20] <rpedro> izhirahider: wait
[12:20] <nickrud> yallaman, gtk themes? not a rocket scientist, but close.
[12:20] <J_P> Flannel: : I have this question for use always -server kernel: if i get out hd from a p4(installed -server)  and put on a amd k7, i need reinstall system for has  linux-image-2.6.15-25-server  running for current cpu type ?
[12:21] <yallaman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16482  this i have now..but i want the windows borders same balck colour as the panel..if ya see what i mean
[12:21] <Inzoy> godmachine81 i told you before.. to reinstall you first have to install it
[12:21] <rpedro> izhirahider: replace 'pt.archive.ubuntu.com' with 'darkstar.ist.utl.pt'
[12:21] <nickrud> izhirahider, try just removing the pt. from the lines, or see rpedro :)
[12:22] <niki> how do i update my graphics driver on a laptop?
[12:22] <izhirahider> if I remove pt. I loose nationality mirror, which I surely need :) thanks
[12:22] <alex_> I'm trying to install limewire; its saying to upgrade JRE but I already have java installed in its default location, meaning that java is already installed but as I do sh ./runLime.sh ; it returns a message saying that the directories its looking at don't have java installed. So how do I point sh to the right direction?
[12:22] <alex_> direction = directory
[12:22] <yallaman> im guessing there are now gui like tool to make themes and such..sigh
[12:22] <nickrud> izhirahider, no, you don't *need* it, but it's nice
[12:22] <LjL> izhirahider: won't necessarily be much slower. when i had problems with the italian mirrors, i used the french ones, and for me they were just as fast
[12:23] <gnomefreak> alex_: did you isntall java 1.5.0.6/7?
[12:23] <roostishaw> which exit status is a success, 0 or 1?
[12:23] <izhirahider> LjL: I have bandwidth problems, due to whitelisting IPs by my ISP
[12:23] <nickrud> I used the uk from the us, and it was much faster :)
[12:23] <LjL> !limewire
[12:23] <eobanb> yallaman, try gnome-look.org
[12:23] <ubotu> A popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To isntall, first install java, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh - consider frostwire (from the !repos) as alternative.
[12:23] <eobanb> yallaman, there are tons of themes there
[12:23] <gnomefreak> alex_: if so you might want to run sudo update-alternatives --config java   and pick the newest version
[12:23] <stranex> F~roostishaw: 0
[12:23] <alex_> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:23] <roostishaw> thank you
[12:23] <PhoenixP3K> Can anyone here help me out with Ubuntu+Vista Beta 2 and grub ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> alex_: yw
[12:24] <LjL> !anyone
[12:24] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[12:24] <niki> how do i update my graphics driver on a laptop?
[12:24] <eobanb> niki, what graphics card do you have
[12:25] <niki> eobanb, i'm not sure, the laptop was given to me used
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: *+    2        /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: isn't that the correct one to have limewire installed?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> alex_: thats not the one you want
[12:25] <skydragon38> what should i do about this: E: zope-replacesupport: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1, thanks in advance.
[12:25] <eobanb> niki, go to System > Administration > Device Manager
[12:25] <Flannel> J_P: right.  You should be fine.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> gcj is the one that comes with ubuntu
[12:25] <nickrud> niki, sudo ddcprobe should tell you a bit about your video card
[12:25] <gnomefreak> alex_: you want java 1.5
[12:25] <alex_> gnomefreak: oh!? really. hmm. other option is usr/bin/gij-wrapper-4.1
[12:26] <alex_> gnomefreak: got it. will look for it
[12:26] <gnomefreak> alex_: enable multiverse and run sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[12:26] <alex_> will do
[12:26] <gnomefreak> alex_: run that command again and choose 1.5 fromt here ;)
[12:27] <alex_> gnomefreak: thanks bro
[12:27] <godmachine81> Inzoy, yes i know... i was speaking if you had that error after you had it installed.  on your problem i really don't know what the problem is.  how far into the install did you actually get?
[12:27] <niki> eobanb, nickrud, what do i look at in Sys/Admin/DeviceManager and ddcprobe?
[12:27] <Inzoy> i found a casper.log file and all i can see in it is : "/init: 1: cannot open /dev/sda: no medium found"
[12:27] <nickrud> niki, I'm not sure about the dev manager (looking at it right now) but ddcprobe tells you exactly what your card and monitor is, as seen by ubuntu
[12:28] <adcuritn> ive got a question about ubuntu and sparc
[12:28] <roostishaw> if i added 0 to a variable that equalled 00, would it come out as 01 or 1?
[12:28] <roostishaw> *if i added 1
[12:28] <niki> nickrud, it gave me a long output, which is the one that says my graphics card?
[12:28] <nickrud> niki, at the very top?
[12:28] <niki> nickrud, so my graphics card is Trident CYBER 8620?
[12:28] <izhirahider> rpedro: any idea why pt.* is not working?
[12:28] <Inzoy> sda is usb drive or something like that right?
[12:28] <rpedro> izhirahider: nope
[12:29] <nickrud> niki, sounds right
[12:29] <godmachine81> Inzoy,  sda is scsi devices and most usb hard drives / flash drives
[12:29] <niki> nickrud, ok...now that i know that, what do i do to update my driver?
[12:29] <nickrud> niki, your driver should be up to date, if your system is
[12:29] <Loh> how limit rate in apt
[12:29] <roostishaw> if i added 1 to a variable that equalled 00, would it come out as 01 or 1?
[12:29] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt
[12:29] <niki> nickrud, google earth for linux tells me i need to update my driver or else it will be very slow
[12:29] <J_P> Flannel: and how I do for reinstall -server kernel in new cpu type ?
[12:29] <Inzoy> jeez.. my printer has a card reader on it.. that might be it :O
[12:30] <LjL> roostishaw: if you did that... where?
[12:30] <adcuritn> I have a sparcstation 20 that I would like to put ubuntu on. There is only a server distribution of ubuntu for sparc. does server come with a gui?
[12:30] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt( limit speed of downloading)
[12:30] <nickrud> niki, a sec
[12:30] <Inzoy> i thought it had to do something with the raid controller on my mobo
[12:30] <eternaljoy> hey hey :)
[12:30] <roostishaw> anywhere... if i have a var that ="00", and add one to it... would it then = 1 or 01?
[12:31] <eternaljoy> if I dont upgrade from breezy, will breezy be an insecure system and no future updates?
[12:31] <pooya> is there a netword analogoue of top commnd?
[12:31] <PhoenixP3K> any vista beta 2 dual booters here ?
[12:31] <LjL> eternaljoy: not until sometime next year...
[12:31] <bbrazil> PhoenixP3K: ntop
[12:31] <kayde> HOW do i fix broken applications?? i need help...
[12:31] <Deedubb> Hello. I'm trying to find a good NFS caching daemon/settings for ubuntu. It seems nscd is not in any repos?
[12:31] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: what programming language?  I imagine in most cases you actually have a String there, not an int.
[12:31] <bbrazil> pooya: ^
[12:31] <eternaljoy> LjL: so im safe to use it and get secrity updates till at least January 2007?
[12:31] <pooya> bbrazil, thanks
[12:31] <godmachine81> kayde,  apt-get -f install
[12:31] <roostishaw> LjL, anywhere... if i have a var that ="00", and add one to it... would it then = 1 or 01?
[12:31] <Inzoy> PhoenixP3K the first thing i am going to do when i boot ubuntu is trash vista and install grub
[12:31] <BIAF> Roostishaw : i think it depends what you have var set to
[12:31] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, a bash script
[12:32] <Inzoy> vista sucks
[12:32] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt( i want limit speed of downloading)
[12:32] <bbrazil> pooya: I like iptraf and bmon, etherape is okay
[12:32] <nickrud> niki, the trident is not 3d capable yet, you need a new chip, not just a driver
[12:32] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: 1
[12:32] <Deedubb> vista has been released?
[12:32] <As1> ashley
[12:32] <PhoenixP3K> Inzoy: grub doesn't recognize vista
[12:32] <roostishaw> awww...
[12:32] <DShepherd> eeboy: heheh.. same here..
[12:32] <niki> nickrud, aw man.... :(
[12:32] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: you can read 'man printf' if you want formatted output
[12:32] <PhoenixP3K> Inzoy: I've tryed everything to install it back...
[12:32] <LjL> roostishaw: sorry, but that question makes no sense. it would depend on the language. languages don't just all behave the same way. in many languages, you couldn't *have* a *numeric* variable containing "00" in the first place
[12:32] <LjL> eternaljoy: yes
[12:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: so im safe to use it and get secrity updates till at least January 2007?
[12:32] <Inzoy> phoenix.. i won't have vista on my machine by then
[12:32] <nickrud> niki, no gl for you, but hey, it was free
[12:32] <eternaljoy> LjL: ok ok
[12:32] <DShepherd> Deedubb: that's a question that everyone has been asking for a long time
[12:33] <eternaljoy> LjL: why should I upgrade to Dapper?  how is it more secure than breezy?
[12:33] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, so how do i make a loop that will count like:  01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 10 11... in bash?
[12:33] <Deedubb> so, nscd? not required anymore?
[12:33] <LjL> eternaljoy: i don't think it's mostly a matter of security.
[12:33] <eternaljoy> LjL: what then?
[12:33] <as1> godmachine81: what do i type to put in root password again?
[12:33] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, it's a matter of up to dateness
[12:33] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: read 'man printf', you could ask in #bash, but they'd probably tell you to RTM
[12:33] <eternaljoy> as1: sudo
[12:33] <hawkaloogie> because it's faster, and more efficient, with better access to the internet!
[12:33] <Loh> People how to limit download speed ( analog of wget --limit-rate but in apt-get) i know that apt-get used wget
[12:33] <godmachine81> as1, passwd
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: up to dateness in what way? what improvments?
[12:34] <RandolphCarter> roostishaw: 'help for' could be useful too
[12:34] <roostishaw> RandolphCarter, im asking in bash right now, thx...
[12:34] <nickrud> latest & greatest, with less pain than unstable
[12:34] <Jelte> hi there... anyone know when the mythtv packages in the repository are going to be updated for the 0.19-fixes branch?
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: what are the imporvments in Dapper?
[12:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: well *shrug* it's a new version. it's got some more features and hopefully some bugs fixed (and some added), and of course newer versions of most packages. that's why we have versions ;-)
[12:34] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, dapper contains newer versions of packages, and other big changes, i'm not sure where you could find a list tho
[12:34] <eternaljoy> LjL: and more bugs ;)
[12:34] <as1> What do i type into root to password????
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: ok
[12:34] <eternaljoy> DarkMageZ: u using dapper now?
[12:34] <LjL> eternaljoy: anyway, you asked "why should I upgrade to Dapper". you *should* not upgrade to dapper. you *might want to* upgrade to dapper.
[12:35] <Flannel> as1: ubuntu doesn't have a root password
[12:35] <godmachine81> as1, the password you want to use
[12:35] <Inzoy> as1: sudo passwd
[12:35] <DarkMageZ> eternaljoy, of cource
[12:35] <Flannel> eternaljoy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606
[12:35] <LjL> !tell as1 about sudo
[12:35] <eternaljoy> Flannel: cheers!
[12:35] <Inzoy> flannel? who told you that?
[12:35] <adcuritn> does the server distribution of ubuntu come with a gui?
[12:35] <Flannel> adcuritn: no
[12:35] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: maybe
[12:35] <adcuritn> can I install one
[12:35] <Flannel> adcuritn: yep
[12:35] <Inzoy> sure
[12:35] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: maybe
[12:36] <eternaljoy> adcuritn: :)
[12:36] <Inzoy> eternaljoy: stop maybe-ing
[12:36] <eternaljoy> Inzoy: make me ;)
[12:36] <adcuritn> apt-get install gde?
[12:36] <Inzoy> gde?
[12:36] <BIAF> adc : ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <Flannel> adcuritn: ubuntu-desktop
[12:36] <adcuritn> thanks
[12:37] <BIAF> gnome is what u will get, not KDE
[12:37] <adcuritn> I know
[12:37] <BIAF> cool
[12:37] <adcuritn> gde=gnome
[12:37] <LjL> if you want a GUI though, why not install Desktop in the first place?
[12:37] <Inzoy> :P
[12:37] <eternaljoy> is upgrading to dapper as good as a new install?
[12:37] <adcuritn> there isnt a desktop distribution for sparc
[12:37] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep
[12:37] <Hexidigital> nothing is as good as a new install
[12:38] <Hexidigital> imho
[12:38] <as1> HOW DO I GET IN TO ROOT? what do I type to put in my password??
[12:38] <nickrud> eternaljoy, as long as you haven't made any major changes manually
[12:38] <eternaljoy> Flannel: so I can upgrade and not need to new install?
[12:38] <bbrazil> godmachine81: try xubuntu - xcfe
[12:38] <Flannel> as1: Ubuntu doesn't have a root password.  Read that link ubotu sent you
[12:38] <nickrud> as1, there is no root password
[12:38] <Flannel> !tell as1 about root
[12:38] <mikere> eternaljoy: worked well for me upgradeing
[12:38] <eternaljoy> nickrud: does Dapper come preinstalled with gnome-ppp?
[12:38] <godmachine81> bbrazil, well xfce is pretty gnomish nowadays..
[12:38] <antinobody> Inzoy so when you try to install it kicks you to a console after the error message, right?
[12:38] <LjL> godmachine81: i don't necessarily "like" them, but most programs are using their services anyway. so i don't find removing them gaining me anything
[12:38] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, you'll need to download that from universe
[12:38] <bbrazil> godmachine81: snapy enough for me. I'm a blackbox/98se man
[12:38] <eternaljoy> mikearthur: does Dapper come preinstalled with gnome-ppp?
[12:38] <nickrud> eternaljoy, it comes with pppconfig
[12:38] <eternaljoy> nickrud: damn idiots :(
[12:38] <Loh> how limit dowload rate in apt( limit speed of downloading) what i need to write in apt-config
[12:39] <godmachine81> bbrazil, 98se?? my god
[12:39] <Inzoy> well actually right now it cannot boot the kernel.. but it does so..
[12:39] <godmachine81> lol
[12:39] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ok pppconfig is ok
[12:39] <antinobody> Inzoy is this console the normal one, with all the pretty user@localhost crap
[12:39] <bbrazil> godmachine81: laugh all you want, great for games though
[12:39] <inigo_> hi
[12:39] <antinobody> and whatnot, rather than just a recovery-shell looking thing
[12:39] <Inzoy> just #
[12:39] <eobanb> godmachine81, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:39] <antinobody> Hmm...
[12:39] <as1> Flannel: can i pm u?
[12:40] <Loh> noone know how to limit download rate? HELP
[12:40] <Inzoy> i found a casper.log file and all i can see in it is : "/init: 1: cannot open /dev/sda: no medium found"
[12:40] <godmachine81> eobanb, not worth going there.. im done with that issue i was just asking a 1 time question...
[12:40] <antinobody> Inzoy yeah, I read that
[12:40] <Flannel> as1: sure
[12:40] <eternaljoy> how do I list all IRC channel using x-chat?
[12:40] <Inzoy> :)
[12:40] <bbrazil> eternaljoy: /list usually
[12:40] <godmachine81> as1,  what exactly do you need to be root for?
[12:40] <eobanb> eternaljoy, /list .  but i wouldnt recommend doing that on a network as popular as freenode
[12:40] <Deedubb> Last call: anyone know any good solutions for NFS caching
[12:40] <antinobody> well at least I know it's probably not a tty7 problem
[12:40] <bbrazil> Loh: not sure it's doable directly, may tell it to go through squid and limit it there?
[12:40] <antinobody> it looks like a tty(anything) problem
[12:40] <nickrud> eternaljoy, go to ircsearch.org , it's got a nice interface
[12:41] <Inzoy> :P
[12:41] <Flannel> as1: you can't PM unless you're registered/identified though
[12:41] <nickrud> well, usable anyway
[12:41] <eobanb> eternaljoy, Window > Channel List
[12:41] <as1> Flannel: can u pm me then?
[12:41] <Loh> bbrazil i dont know how to  change it in suid
[12:41] <Loh> bbrazil i dont know how to  change it in squid
[12:41] <Inzoy> now i cannot even get to that prompt..
[12:42] <Loh> apt-get used wget it can change download speesd
[12:42] <LjL> Loh: try "apt-cache show trickle"
[12:42] <Inzoy> it lies to me.. my machine lies to me!! it says "OK, booting kernel" and it doesn't..
[12:42] <bbrazil> Loh: look in the config under dealy pools
[12:42] <bbrazil> Loh: *delay
[12:42] <tobberoth_> Is there any big channel for discussing Wine issues?
[12:42] <Daveyboy> hey , i downloaded apt-get install xfce-desktop but i don't see it in my login screen for a session...
[12:42] <LjL> tobberoth_: #winehq
[12:43] <tobberoth_> thanks :)
[12:43] <Inzoy> this indicates an unhealthy relationship between me and my computer
[12:43] <godmachine81> kayde, what are you trying to become root for? what particular reason?
[12:43] <Alpha-Toxic> hi guys, what was the command to change screen res through the command line?
[12:43] <aLPHa_LeaK> Alpha-Toxic: iirc edit the xorg.conf
[12:43] <nickrud> *blush* used xchat for a year, never saw that window channel list menu item
[12:43] <eternaljoy> i found it!  in x-chat chose Window in menu then chose List Channels :)
[12:43] <nicolas_> hi
[12:43] <eobanb> eternaljoy, that's what i just said...
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: ah ok ;)
[12:44] <antinobody> Inzoy this is on the same computer you're using now, right?
[12:44] <Alpha-Toxic> there was a command, i have used it, but forgot it...
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: you use dapper or breezy?
[12:44] <Inzoy> nope..
[12:44] <eobanb> dapper.
[12:44] <antinobody> Oh, ok then
[12:44] <nickrud> Inzoy, do you have serial ata? I ask, not because I have a solution, but I've seen that happen with ubuntu occasionally
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, it's the same in dapper and in breezy
[12:44] <eternaljoy> does Dapper come with Thunderbird?
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no
[12:44] <godmachine81> Daveyboy, you may need to make a new xfce.desktop file in your /usr/share/xsessions/ directory
[12:44] <eternaljoy> does Dapper come with x-chat?
[12:44] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep, well.  you can install it from the repositories.  It doesn't come preinstalled
[12:44] <Inzoy> nop... just ata
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no
[12:44] <antinobody> !mozilla-thunderbird
[12:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozilla-thunderbird
[12:44] <Inzoy> crappy ide
[12:44] <QPAD|warlock-O-> !pastebin
[12:44] <nickrud> eternaljoy, no, xchat-gnome
[12:44] <eobanb> eternaljoy, just sudo a-tpget install xchat
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <antinobody> !thunderbird
[12:44] <eternaljoy> eobanb: does dapper come with anything? :P
[12:44] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, of course.  but there's a reason that ubuntu fits on one CD
[12:45] <LjL> eternaljoy: does it matter that much what it comes with?
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: if I do a new install that means I have to install so many things :(
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, just sudo apt-get install xchat, and there, you have it
[12:45] <nicolas_> is there a sort of mail notification available for evolution ? (in gnome, i know xfce mail icon used to change to red when new mail arrives)
[12:45] <rpedro> Alpha-Toxic: alt-ctrl-keypadplus and alt-ctrl-keypadminus ?
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, no need to troll
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: define troll
[12:45] <Loh> bbrazil -> delay? its a comand of what
[12:45] <eobanb> eternaljoy, someone trying to start an argument?
[12:45] <BIAF> im looking best way to apt-get sendmail for my webmin...
[12:45] <Hexidigital> eternaljoy:: what you are doing is trolling
[12:45] <eternaljoy> eobanb: you falsely accuse me
[12:46] <nickrud> or the edge of it anyway
[12:46] <antinobody> Inzoy can you try to get to install it again?  I want to check the contents of a file
[12:46] <LjL> nicolas_: try apt-cache show evolutions-plugins
[12:46] <antinobody> then again
[12:46] <eternaljoy> Hexidigital: are you 100% certain about that?
[12:46] <antinobody> if you can't load the kernel...
[12:46] <LjL> nicolas_: that is evolution-plugins
[12:46] <Inzoy> is it possible to have any problem with the cd? now it crashes 5 seconds after it starts booting from it
[12:46] <Hexidigital> eternaljoy:: sure enough that i save my IRC logs...
[12:46] <nickrud> Inzoy, absolutely. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[12:46] <eobanb> eternaljoy, if you have a specific question, that's fine, but if you have a valid complaint about ubuntu then contact the development team
[12:46] <yallaman> is there somhow i can change workspaces with the mousewheel?
[12:46] <bbrazil> Loh: delay pools, feature of squid
[12:46] <antinobody> Inzoy maybe, try downloading the alternative cd (that should be familiar enough for you anyway)
[12:46] <Alpha-Toxic> rpedro: lol this actualy does sth :)
[12:46] <eternaljoy> Hexidigital: are you 100% certain that im trolling?
[12:46] <godmachine81> Inzoy, what type of cpu are you using?
[12:46] <nicolas_> LjL: thanks
[12:46] <BIAF> best way to apt-get sendmail for my webmin?
[12:47] <antinobody> and then md5summing it
[12:47] <antinobody> to be sure
[12:47] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[12:47] <eobanb> eternaljoy, not of ubuntu, no.
[12:47] <nickrud> yallaman, put the mouse pointer over the desktop pictures lower right, and scroll
[12:47] <Loh> running trickle :trickle: Could not reach trickled, working independently: No such file or directory
[12:47] <Loh> trickle: exec(): No such file or directory
[12:47] <crimsun> this trolling/not-trolling discussion needs to be moved right now.
[12:47] <Inzoy> but i've booted this disc a bounch of times anyways.. gonna check it out
[12:47] <Hexidigital> crimsun:: sorry
[12:48] <yallaman> well..that works too..was hoping to get it working..anywhere on the deskto tho:)
[12:48] <antinobody> Inzoy the alt cd might be friendlier, who knows?
[12:48] <Inzoy> antinobody the desktop cd it much more usefull
[12:48] <Inzoy> just click and boom: installed
[12:48] <Jack_Sparrow> What folder should have the program.exe (Windows App) if I want to run it under Wine?
[12:48] <antinobody> Inzoy true, but if you can't get to that pont, it isn't that useful
[12:48] <Inzoy> godmachine81 i got a p4 3.something GHz
[12:48] <LjL> Loh: hm, it works for me with "sudo trickle apt-get update"
[12:49] <Inzoy> i'm gonna try re downloading ubuntu
[12:49] <godmachine81> what type of hard drive Inzoy ?
[12:49] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: it's under ~/.wine/ if I remember correctly
[12:49] <Inzoy> i'll get the alt to.. :)
[12:49] <nickrud> Jack_Sparrow, it'll be under ~/.wine/drive_c/ , whereever you installed it in the windows tree
[12:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: I need the app in the Wine folder?
[12:49] <Inzoy> godmachine81: 2 ide WD drives
[12:49] <LjL> Loh: also appears to work with "sudo trickle -u 1 aptitude dist-upgrade"
[12:49] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: no, the c drive underneath of it.  install it via wine, it puts it in the right place
[12:49] <godmachine81> Jack_Sparrow,  ~/.wine/drive/Program Files/AppDir/App.exe
[12:49] <rpedro> Jack_Sparrow: first run winecfg and run through the tabs, specifically the folders tab
[12:49] <swaj> kinda wierd -- under ubuntu dapper drake, my laptop never has any issues, but in Windows XP, it overheats like crazy
[12:49] <Inzoy> i had no problem installing linux on my harddrive in the past
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Cool thanks, I will try it thanks guys and gals
[12:50] <antinobody> Inzoy it probably is just a corrupt cd issue
[12:51] <nickrud> Inzoy, checking the cd is faster
[12:51] <godmachine81> Inzoy, try erasing the hard drive your installing to.. that will probably fix it.. if thats an option anyway
[12:51] <Hexidigital> swaj:: you're power management should be better w/ Ubuntu, also... i get nearly 15-20% more battery power
[12:51] <antinobody> godmachine81 he didn't get that far in the process
[12:51] <godmachine81> but do what they said first
[12:51] <JackRazz> hey everyone, does the ubuntu Live CD automatically mount FAT32 partitions that are on my existing hard drives???
[12:51] <antinobody> I'm going to go take a walk now, good luck Inzoy
[12:51] <godmachine81> antinobody, i mean use a diff disc to format it
[12:51] <antinobody> ahh
[12:51] <nickrud> JackRazz, yes, most of the time
[12:51] <Inzoy> thank you antinobody
[12:52] <Loh> trickle: Could not reach trickled, working independently: No such file or directory --what does is this
[12:52] <drucer> Anyone tried to set up Ubuntu studio?
[12:52] <JackRazz> hey nickrud, one more question
[12:52] <godmachine81> Loh,  it means that the trickled is not running.. trickled would be the daemon
[12:52] <Inzoy> btw my cpu is at 3.0 GHz
[12:52] <Inzoy> ;)
[12:52] <Loh> but it works or not?
[12:53] <godmachine81> probably not
[12:53] <nickrud> JackRazz, shoot. But, I claim the right to throw the question back ;)
[12:53] <JackRazz> using nautilus, I dbl clicked the  FAT32 partion and it said someing about not being a removable drive and couldn't mount.
[12:53] <godmachine81> Loh, see what you get when you type trickle<tab> in the terminal
[12:53] <Inzoy> nickrud? "checking the cd is faster" you mean via the boot menu?
[12:53] <JackRazz> should I look for the partition in FileSystem?
[12:54] <nickrud> JackRazz, yes, but you might need to redefine it in /etc/fstab .
[12:54] <vanberge> will somebody in here write adium for linux  :-)
[12:54] <vanberge> that is the coolest i.m. program i've ever seen
[12:54] <nickrud> JackRazz, if you'd put your /etc/fstab and the output of sudo fdisk -l on a pastebin ...
[12:54] <JackRazz> I didn't think i could do that from a live cd - can I just edit it and it will automatically recognize without a reboot?
[12:54] <JackRazz> Live CD!
[12:55] <MFen> is there an official package list anywhere? i want to know what pacakges are available on the *live* (desktop?) cd
[12:55] <nickrud> JackRazz, ah, livecd. All bets are off on that, I only boot them long enough to fix my screwups
[12:55] <Daveyboy> what is a good cd burner program for ubuntu
[12:55] <MFen> in particular, i want to know if the livecd has ndiswrapper
[12:55] <Ap0s7le> Hey all, How do I edit a file that only root has access to?
[12:55] <nickrud> Daveyboy, for most uses, just go to Places->CD/DVD creator
[12:55] <Loh> I run trickle but download speed is 10 kb/s now when it set 250 /
[12:56] <Daveyboy> nickrud, im using kde
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ap0s7le: sudo vi file
[12:56] <Ap0s7le> I don't know how to use vi
[12:56] <nickrud> Daveyboy, now why would you want to do that ;)
[12:56] <gigaclon> sudo gedit then
[12:56] <Flannel> Ap0s7le: gksudo gedit, or sudo nano
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> Ap0s7le: then sudo nano or sudo gedit then
[12:56] <Jack_Sparrow> When using wine to run a visual basic 5 app how do I link the vb runtime libraries
[12:56] <aLPHa_LeaK> -then ;)
[12:56] <nickrud> Daveyboy, k3b for you then
[12:56] <Ap0s7le> Thanks
[12:56] <Daveyboy> nickrud, kewl
[12:56] <drucer> Daveyboy, k3b. It can even back up DVDs.
[12:57] <JackRazz> nickrud, I'm trying to install linux and need to mount it to dd the first sector in the partition to get the grub loader
[12:57] <godmachine81> k3b is a pretty good cd/dvd burning app even if your in gnome or another wm
[12:57] <godmachine81> gnome-baker isnt bad either
[12:57] <drucer> Not sure if k3b can back up encrypted DVDs though.
[12:57] <nickrud> JackRazz, I'd need to see that file & output to help
[12:58] <Inzoy> verbose mode always does it
[12:58] <Inzoy> :D
[12:58] <JackRazz> ok, nickrud,  I'll try later when I retry booting the live cd...thanks
[12:58] <Inzoy> well "drives/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver" and then i get the error
[12:59] <godmachine81> have the dapper cds been shipped out yet?
[12:59] <tobberoth_> I just installed bittornado and bittornado-gui.. how do I start it O.o
[12:59] <godmachine81> im guessing they have
[12:59] <tobberoth_> It's not in the menu
[12:59] <nickrud> JackRazz, you can try something like mkdir /windows && sudo mount /dev/hda1 -t vfat /windows, but that's pretty generic
[12:59] <acidburns> how do I remove a folder wich is not empty via the command line?
[01:00] <nickrud> acidburns, rm -r <dir>
[01:00] <Ap0s7le> I tried... gedit http.conf and it doesn't open it
[01:00] <drucer> Anyone know what "shutting down torrent tracker" means? I see this line every time I shut down Ubuntu dapper. Does this mean that Dapper comes with some torrent tracker software preinstalled?
[01:00] <acidburns> thanxz nickrud
[01:01] <ZahlerSchlagen> hey everybody!
[01:01] <drucer> acidburns, "rm -Rf <folder name>".
[01:01] <tobberoth_> Anyone who uses BitTornado?
[01:02] <nickrud> drucer, did you do a save session while a torrent was running? (guessing)
[01:02] <JackRazz> nickrud, if the live cd did automatically mount the fat32 partition, where would it be in my filesystem?
[01:02] <nickrud> JackRazz, somewhere under /media
[01:02] <ZahlerSchlagen> Tobberoth_: I use uTorrent
[01:02] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone here have an rt61 WiFi card or no how to configure one?
[01:02] <JackRazz> nickrud, ok thanks.
[01:02] <funkmaster> jackrazz: it will probably not mount it automatically
[01:02] <funkmaster> when u go to the command line and type mount
[01:02] <funkmaster> u should c the mounted devices and where they r monted
[01:02] <drucer> nickrud, not sure about that. That might have happened. I'm just wondering if some bittorrent software is still running in the background. Hope not.
[01:03] <__mikem> Hello, it looks like the local ops took care of that problem last night?
[01:03] <tobberoth_> ZahlerSchlagen: uTorrent 1.5 doesn't work on Wine :( Won't connect to tracker.
[01:03] <ZahlerSchlagen> sad panda
[01:03] <funkmaster> druver: run top and check whats running
[01:03] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone here have an rt61 WiFi card or no how to configure one?
[01:03] <MFen> does anyone here how i can found out whether the livecd has a particular package on it or not?
[01:03] <JackRazz> ok everyone, thanks...I'll go try all this now...thanks again for all the help
[01:03] <nickrud> drucer, run gnome-system-monitor , it'll tell you all your running processes
[01:03] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: try ndiswrapper.
[01:04] <ZahlerSchlagen> antox: there is a linux driver
[01:04] <funkmaster> Mfen: check on the web or run the live cd go to synaptic packet manager and look for it
[01:04] <LjL> MFen: do you *have* the live cd? also, note that you can *install* new packages from the net when you're on the live cd
[01:04] <funkmaster> indeed
[01:04] <MFen> LjL: it's an awful lot of data to download if it doesn't have what i need on it...
[01:04] <ZahlerSchlagen> Ubuntu 6.06 comes with the rt61 driver! But i can't configure the card. i et a siocflags error
[01:04] <__mikem> LjL don't forget you can also install the distro itself from the new live cd's
[01:04] <drucer> OK, I had a look at the processes. No mention of any process with *torrent in it's name. So, it is not normal to see that message every time you shut down?
[01:04] <funkmaster> it's la cd
[01:04] <MFen> LjL: also note that i need ndiswrapper, so the net isn't gonna be there for me
[01:05] <MFen> funkmaster: on the web *where* though?
[01:05] <funkmaster> drucer: afaik not
[01:05] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: what's the name of your card?
[01:05] <drucer> funkmaster, OK, that's good to know. I need to find out what's causing that.
[01:05] <funkmaster> hm dunno but i guess google shoud be useful
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> it's got the rt2561 chipset, a giga-byte card
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> uses rt61 driver
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> which i have on my windows :/
[01:05] <ZahlerSchlagen> dual-boot
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> it wont work under ubuntu though
[01:06] <__mikem> ZahlerSchlagen what in gods name is a giga-byte card?
[01:06] <LjL> MFen: i'll make you a list if i can find a cd
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> giga-byte is a brand
[01:06] <ZahlerSchlagen> it's a WiFi card 802.11b/g
[01:06] <MFen> LjL: that would be cool
[01:06] <__mikem> Oh
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> in iwconfig it is showed
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> ra0
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> but when i try to assign it an addres my machine locks up
[01:07] <Tmob> anyone here have a Dell d410 laptop?
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> or do anything with it
[01:07] <Tmob> i can't figure which wireless card i have
[01:07] <Tmob> it says unknown broadcom
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> and i have the firmware in the /etc/Wireless/RT61STA dir
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> yeah
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> mine says unknown realtek
[01:07] <Tmob> and bcm43xx doesn't work.. so trying to see wehre i can get the driver from..
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> ubuntu has bad wireless support
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> :/
[01:07] <ZahlerSchlagen> all linux has poor wireless support
[01:07] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[01:08] <Tmob> ZahlerSchlagen, yea i have installed it on btoh my laptops and both of their wifi dont work
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> blast it
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how this can be remedied/
[01:08] <Tmob> i think its betters to stick with  ndiswrapper until bcm43xx drivers get stable
[01:08] <robertj> I think we have officially moved from bad to poor
[01:08] <robertj> hurray
[01:08] <Tmob> ZahlerSchlagen, ndiswrapper works very well
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> hmm
[01:08] <ZahlerSchlagen> how do i uninstall the linux driver, then?
[01:09] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[01:10] <ZahlerSchlagen> two questions folks. where can i find deb URLS for ndiswrapper and how do you uninstall a driver?
[01:10] <LjL> err, does anybody have the /etc/apt/sources.list line for the Ubuntu Dapper CD-ROM?
[01:10] <boricua> trying to configure cups via localhost:631 keeps asking me for password how do i set one up for cups?
[01:11] <mjr> LjL, sudo apt-cdrom add should add it
[01:11] <Jemt> bobslaede: Just enter 'root' and your own password
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> LjL
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> i concur wth mjr
[01:11] <ZahlerSchlagen> lol
[01:11] <nickrud> LjL, if you're looking for the package list, it's in /casper/filesystem.manifest in the desktop cd
[01:11] <boricua> Jemt, that does not do it
[01:11] <LjL> mjr: hm, cool, but... does the Dapper Desktop CD count as a CD repository? :-\
[01:11] <LjL> nickrud: right, thanks
[01:11] <Jemt> boricua: Ah, root is not enabled.
[01:11] <boricua> Jemt, remeber it ubuntu root has no password
[01:12] <mjr> LjL, oh. Yeah. Desktop. Dunno.
[01:12] <tobberoth_> Hmm, does ubuntu have some form of natural firewall? I seem to be firewalled on bittorrent
[01:12] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how to uninstall a driver?
[01:12] <__mikem> sudo passwd root is great
[01:12] <antox> ZahlerSchlagen: ndis is @ http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/
[01:12] <boricua> Jemt, even if you enable it it will not work its noot looking for regular root passwd
[01:12] <bbrazil> tobberoth_: the kernel has iptables, but it shouldn't be in use
[01:12] <Jemt> boricua: Why don't you use "Printing" in Administration or Preferences?
[01:12] <Flannel> __mikem: please don't recommend people set a root password.
[01:12] <ZahlerSchlagen> thanks antox
[01:12] <LjL> mjr, nickrud: so does the "ex-Live-now-Desktop-CD" not act as a repository anymore? :o)
[01:12] <Jemt> boricua: Hm, it should..
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt: i am troubleshoot an exisiting problem with my printer
[01:13] <antox> about uninstalling... try to delete that module (?) but I don't know...
[01:13] <nickrud> LjL, if it's like the alternate cd, yes it does
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt, try it
[01:13] <yallaman> is there a temp monitoring app for ubuntu?
[01:13] <Jemt> bobslaede: Try what ?
[01:13] <antox> yallaman: try acpi
[01:13] <boricua> Jemt, using root passwd if you think it should
[01:13] <LjL> nickrud: well i don't have an alternate cd handy, but with the desktop cd, apt-cdrom doesn't recognize it as a source
[01:13] <dr3wster> hey, has anyone here been able to get beagle to index a fat32 partition?  I followed their FAQ to create a static index, but I've still got nothing.  Any ideas?
[01:14] <nickrud> LjL, check that, when I reinstalled yesterday, it asked for the cd for some updates; I cancelled & changed the sources
[01:14] <Jemt> boricua: I'm using Debian
[01:14] <__mikem> hey, what command do I use to see who owns a particular file?
[01:14] <dr3wster> hey, has anyone here been able to get beagle to index a fat32 partition?  I followed their FAQ to create a static index, but I've still got nothing.  Any ideas?
[01:14] <robertj> does gnome iso burner work with dvds?
[01:14] <antox> _mikem: ls -l <filename>
[01:14] <constantine-xvi> how do you manually insert the package lists into apt?  i keep getting 403s from apt, but can get them from the browser
[01:14] <LjL> MFen: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16488
[01:14] <__mikem> ok thanks
[01:14] <tobberoth_> I wish uTorrent would just work.. seems impossible to find a decent torrent program for ubuntu/kubuntu
[01:14] <robertj> I right clicked & wrote to disk & inserted a dvd but it just says to insert a disk with 4597 free
[01:14] <aviation> hello, has anyone here setup a nvidia card on dapper, specifically a geforce fx 5200
[01:15] <nickrud> dr3wster, not a doable thing, vfat does not support user_xattr
[01:15] <dr3wster> tobberoth_, what's so bad about azureus?
[01:15] <bbrazil> constantine-xvi: do an apt=get update, see if that fixes it
[01:15] <he-man> tobberoth_: try azureus
[01:15] <nickrud> dr3wster, or whatever the exact attribute is
[01:15] <tobberoth_> dr3wster: It's a memory hog since it's coded in Java. It's slow and ugly. It won't even let me download files.
[01:15] <dr3wster> nickrud, http://beagle-project.org/Static_Indexes says that I can by building a static index manually and then adding it to beagle... but it's not working
[01:15] <constantine-xvi> bbrazil: no dice, still getting 403s
[01:15] <he-man> aviation: I've got a geforce fx 5200 Go on my laptop and have no problems
[01:15] <LjL> constantine-xvi: which repositories are you using?
[01:15] <constantine-xvi> 403 == forbidden error
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: i mean with mirrors. try using some others
[01:16] <nickrud> dr3wster, I wasn't aware you could do that.
[01:16] <dr3wster> tobberoth_, that'll do it:-p.  I dunno, it's less of a memory hog for me for some reason and I always run it minimized.
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: s/with/which/
[01:16] <dr3wster> nickrud, haha, well I can in theory... buuut it doesn't actually work for some reason:(
[01:16] <tobberoth_> I just wanted to get uTorrent working >_< stupid Wine.
[01:16] <constantine-xvi> LjL: tried us.archive, archive, se.archive, among others, but not working
[01:16] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0
[01:16] <yallaman> antox: seems that acpi is installed allready..how do i use it? would be nice with some desklet or somthing to have on desktop
[01:16] <LjL> constantine-xvi: do you have a (DSL) router?
[01:17] <bbrazil> constantine-xvi: try a different mirror? flush your proxy cahce (if any)?
[01:17] <antox> yallaman: I use acpi -Vs
[01:17] <constantine-xvi> LjL: yes
[01:17] <ZahlerSchlagen> anyone know how to uninstall a driver?
[01:17] <LjL> constantine-xvi: look at your /etc/resolv.conf -- is your router set as the DNS server?
[01:17] <dr3wster> so, has anyone else had experience with using beagle for fat32 drives?
[01:17] <antox> yallaman: sorry, dunno anything w/ gui.
[01:18] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0
[01:18] <calebt> ?
[01:18] <constantine-xvi> LjL: nameserver 192.168.0.1 (the router)
[01:18] <Jemt> caleb: Repeating the question dosn't help
[01:18] <LjL> constantine-xvi: right. try changing that into 212.245.255.2, and then try again the apt-get update
[01:18] <lonegeek> what program will rip a cd to mp3?
[01:18] <LjL> constantine-xvi: (that IP's a DNS server that i know works)
[01:19] <aviation> he-man, are you running dapper?
[01:19] <constantine-xvi> LjL: still 403s
[01:20] <calebt> How can i do work the back and forward buttons of my Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 4.0 USB in Ubuntu Dapper 6.06???
[01:20] <constantine-xvi> LjL: if i copy/paste the urls into firefox, i get the lists
[01:20] <he-man> aviation: yes, but now that you tell me that... I installed some days ago dapper in my PC some days ago with a Geforce 5500 FX and just before entering gdm
[01:20] <constantine-xvi> but apt-get returns 403s
[01:20] <Jemt> caleb: Stop repeating your question !
[01:20] <he-man> aviation: the background remains black
[01:20] <spades> caleb https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntellimouseMousemanBackForwardButtons
[01:20] <LjL> constantine-xvi: hmm, ok. i'll explain why i asked you to do this --- some guy had encountered a problem with 403s and other errors on apt-get, due to the fact that his router model messed up DNS when requests came too fast. that's why i had you try another server
[01:20] <calebt> Jemt please answer me
[01:20] <LjL> constantine-xvi: can you paste both your sources.list and the errors you're getting from apt-get update to the pastebin?
[01:20] <Jemt> caleb: There is probably no one that knows the question. If there is, they will try to help you
[01:21] <calebt> Thank Spades
[01:21] <constantine-xvi> LjL: please hold...
[01:21] <CodeWarrior_> Id want to install AMD64 version (Dapper) , but my main use of the machine is desktop stuff. Id like to know if theres a way to compile programs for 64bits using the 32bits version of the OS ?
[01:21] <Flannel> calebt: Ive got a link for you, let me fish it up.
[01:21] <bruenig> codewarrior_, you can set up a chroot
[01:21] <theshibboleth> I juar installed Ubuntu, and I'm trying to get my wireless network to work, but everytime I click to activate the wirless connection the system freezes
[01:22] <__mikem> that never happened to me before
[01:22] <Flannel> calebt: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[01:22] <calebt> Thakns Flannel
[01:22] <Stormx2> Oh finally... kzenexplorer... brilliant.
[01:22] <CodeWarrior_> bruenig: install the 32bits and make a 64bits chroot ?
[01:22] <nickrud> CodeWarrior_, if your main use is desktop, stick with the i386 version. You can run 32 bit stuff in a chroot on 64 bit, and edgy supposely will support running 32 bit stuff
[01:22] <ice228> how do i instal a .bin file
[01:22] <mjr> CodeWarrior_, you could, but you'd have to jump through some hoops. Probably easiest would be to run a 64-bit kernel regardless of the main userland
[01:22] <aviation> he-man, did you just install this driver? "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-kernel-common" ?
[01:23] <antox> ice228:  how about just launching it?
[01:23] <bruenig> codewarrior_, i misread it
[01:23] <__mikem> ice228 chmod 777 file.bin exec file.bin
[01:23] <Jemt> ice228:   ./myBinFile.bin
[01:23] <ice228> Couldn't display "/home/ice228/Desktop/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[01:23] <garryF> !wireless > theshibboleth
[01:23] <__mikem> ice228 do a chmod777 on the file first
[01:23] <__mikem> * chmod 777
[01:23] <ice228> how?
[01:23] <Jemt> ice228: requires you to do 'chmod +x myBinFile.bin' first, which will grant execution rights
[01:23] <__mikem> chmod 777 filename
[01:23] <aviation> he-man, or did you also edit "xorg.conf", i guess the simple question would be what did you do to get this card working properly
[01:23] <ice228> do i do that in terminal
[01:23] <__mikem> I like octal digets better
[01:23] <nickrud> or sh file.bin , no chmod needed
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: yes, I did it and then I tried "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" but it's the same for me.
[01:24] <Jemt> ice228: In one command:  chmod +x myBinFile.bin && ./myBinFile.bin
[01:24] <CodeWarrior_> so, better to install 64bits version and use a 32bit chroot ?
[01:24] <Jemt> ice228: If the file requires administration privileges:  chmod +x myBinFile.bin && sudo ./myBinFile.bin
[01:24] <antox> nickrud: does sh file.bin really work?!
[01:24] <nickrud> CodeWarrior_, if you're comfortable running chroots, that's the way to go for now
[01:24] <__mikem> thats what I would like to know
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: I couldn't. In my laptop I've had dapper installed before being released and I simply updated it
[01:24] <__mikem> I thought sh was only for shell scripts
[01:24] <he-man> aviation: which is your problem exactly?
[01:25] <he-man> aviation: the same as mine?
[01:25] <nickrud> __mikem, no, sh is a shell: and it works
[01:25] <theshibboleth> Is the system freezing when one activates a wireless network a common/known problem?
[01:25] <CodeWarrior_> :-/
[01:25] <garryF> !wifi
[01:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:25] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Using Dapper ?
[01:25] <hareem> can some one help me setup openkiosk
[01:25] <hareem> please
[01:25] <constantine-xvi> LjL:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489
[01:26] <theshibboleth> Jemt: yes, I'm using dapper
[01:26] <antox> nickrud: no, it doesn't.
[01:26] <theshibboleth> I set up the network properly, I just don't understand why it freezes
[01:26] <aviation> he-man, before i installed the drivers i only had 1024 x 768, which is low for this card right, now that i installed the driver i have 640 x 480 only for some reason
[01:26] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Downgrade to Breezy. Dapper totally sucks. It is not ready for use. It is seriously unstable - Several threads on the Ubuntu Forum proves that. Breezy is the bomb though. But if you want the most recent software, I would recommend Debian
[01:26] <hareem> hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:26] <nickrud> antox, ok, you tested one that didn't. My bad then
[01:26] <caleb> just to be clear
[01:26] <digi> hey looks like my soundcard(sb-awe) isnt supported, i can enable it (dontr remember how) but i need to do it everytime i reboot, HELP!
[01:26] <caleb> there is or was a "calebt"
[01:27] <caleb> which is different from me
[01:27] <caleb> haha
[01:27] <caleb> i scrolled up and was like "i didnt repeat my question... ?"
[01:27] <digi> anyone?
[01:27] <ice228> it wont let me write to the bin folder and i do have admin priviliges
[01:27] <theshibboleth> Jemt: Is there a way to downgrade from within Dapper? Before when I tried to install Breezy it was not able to install the Linux kernel.
[01:27] <constantine-xvi> LjL: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489
[01:27] <ocr---> LjL: thanks for the excellent help earlier today, just letting you know I've now restored the entire system!
[01:27] <nickrud> digi, you did a modprobe on a module to get it working?
[01:27] <ocr---> bcl: thanks for the excellent help earlier today, just letting you know I've now restored the entire system!
[01:27] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Nope
[01:28] <digi> yes
[01:28] <digi> nickrud:
[01:28] <LjL> ocr---: extracted dpkg by hand?
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I would recommend Debian. It's the same installation procedure
[01:28] <he-man> aviation: you can change that in your xorg.conf file in /etc/X11. In section Screen, subsection Display
[01:28] <nickrud> digi, add that module name to /etc/modules , it'll install automatically at each boot
[01:28] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Except that you only get a "base" system (console)
[01:28] <he-man> add whatever mode you want to use
[01:28] <digi> oh ok
[01:28] <digi> thx
[01:28] <ice228> anyone know why it wont let me write to a folder even i f i have admin priviliges?
[01:28] <halitech> hareem, what have you done so far?
[01:28] <calebt> lol
[01:28] <theshibboleth> Jemt: alright. I'll look into it. Thanks.
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I have created 3 shell scripts that setup my computer with Debian - I could send them to you
[01:28] <ocr---> LjL & bcl: it just needed 5 hours of sleep and then just extracting all "required" packages by hand ignoring /etc :] 
[01:28] <hareem> i installed berkely DB
[01:28] <hareem> thats about it
[01:28] <Jemt> theshibboleth: What CPU do you have ?
[01:28] <digi> hum what do i need to type again? "sudo modprobe [something goes here] 
[01:28] <bruenig> ice228, you must not have admin priviledges?
[01:29] <bbrazil> ice228: ls -ld; id
[01:29] <aviation> he-man, i think i need some help with that, i dont know what to edit,
[01:29] <ice228> my account has admin proiviliges, i have write read and all that
[01:29] <theshibboleth> Jemt: umm... I'm not sure if I would be able to tell you immediately... let me look it up
[01:29] <hareem> i cant seem to do the rest
[01:29] <LjL> ocr---: heh, well you *are* determined. i'd never do that :)
[01:29] <hareem> thats why i need help
[01:29] <LjL> constantine-xvi: well, i can confirm that your sources.list works for me
[01:29] <bruenig> ice228, you have admin priviledges but not root priviledges
[01:29] <he-man> ok, I can paste an example, but only if you know the resolution you want for your screen
[01:29] <digi> nickrud: you there?
[01:29] <he-man> aviation:ok, I can paste an example, but only if you know the resolution you want for your screen
[01:30] <halitech> what errors are you getting and what version of ubuntu?
[01:30] <nickrud> digi, herm, the sb awe is a pnp card ...
[01:30] <ice228> how do i get root priviliges
[01:30] <digi> yes
[01:30] <antox> ice228: sudo su
[01:30] <bruenig> ice228, go into a terminal and type 'sudo -s' enter your password and you will have root privileges for all the commands of that terminal session
[01:30] <antox> ice228: but rather do "sudo ./file.bin"
[01:30] <hareem> halitech: can you please help me
[01:30] <eternaljoy> eobanb: are you a developer?
[01:30] <constantine-xvi> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16489\
[01:31] <nickrud> digi, I don't know sound very well, I'll look about. What exact card do you have, according to lspci
[01:31] <LjL> constantine-xvi: i've seen that man ;-) i'm looking at it, as i said, it works for me, and i'm not sure what could be wrong
[01:31] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to install ubuntu or can i use a boot disk
[01:31] <r3dhat> *not install to boot from
[01:31] <MFen> LjL: thanks.  sadly, ndiswrapper isn't in that list ...
[01:32] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:32] <jaggz-> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/158
[01:32] <jaggz-> there's a python script later on in that page which lists all the packages and their install times
[01:32] <constantine-xvi> LjL: my bad, was gutting another machine for something else
[01:32] <jaggz-> (quoted in the page so you'll see it)
[01:32] <hareem>  hey. can someone please help me setup openkiosk
[01:33] <J-_> what's good widget software that i can install?
[01:33] <jaggz-> put that in a file and run:  ./thatfile | sort -n | less   and you can see packages installed together so you can remove them (like I just installed something and its dependencies end up being many many many megs .. I might not even use the thing.
[01:33] <tzadik> hi
[01:33] <halitech> hareem, repeating your question isn't going to get help if no one has the answers
[01:33] <tzadik> i used to have dma working
[01:33] <andriijas> how do i create a sit1 device?
[01:33] <tzadik> but now that i upgraded to dapper
[01:33] <tzadik> dms is no longer working
[01:33] <bruenig> j-_, gdesklets is ok
[01:33] <tzadik> i get slow burning
[01:33] <Jemt> theshibboleth: I haft to go for about half an hour - MSG the answer
[01:33] <hareem> ah... come on man. This is the ubuntu community
[01:33] <J-_> thanks, i'll check it out
[01:33] <hareem> you guys are pros at this
[01:34] <tzadik> and i get HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[01:34] <hareem> im new to linux and to ubuntu. I wanted to setup a kiosk.
[01:34] <bruenig> hareem, you can't expect people to be able to use every piece of software that exists
[01:34] <tzadik> from hdparm
[01:34] <crimsun> hareem: paid support is where the "pros" reside.
[01:34] <hareem> ok.
[01:34] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to boot Ubuntu or can i make a bootdisk like fedora?
[01:34] <bruenig> hareem, do you need help installing it or configuring?
[01:34] <hareem> both
[01:34] <hareem> i need to set it up for a cyber cafe
[01:35] <bruenig> hareem, what is the name of the file
[01:35] <hareem> nodeview
[01:35] <Locke_> my synaptic wont work along with any other package too, they say that java5 needs to be reinstalled but it cant find the package, and repositories has nothing listed, but i cant add anything to it
[01:35] <bruenig> is it .tar.gz is it a .bin or what?
[01:36] <yallaman> is Lmsensors usable on ubuntu? or is there another way i can have a little icon/window showing hd/cpu/case temps?
[01:36] <LjL> constantine-xvi: well, i can honestly say i don't have a clue. you should probably purge/clean your list of packages, but i don't know and can't find the right command for that.
[01:36] <Locke_> gdesklets
[01:36] <hareem> the software is called open kiosk. It needs berkely DB and QT 3.x or higher to work
[01:36] <hareem> i managed to install berkely
[01:36] <bruenig> what is the full name of the file that you downloaded
[01:36] <yallaman> hareem: that i need lmsensors for..right?
[01:36] <tzadik> what is HDIO_GETGEO
[01:37] <tzadik> anyway?
[01:37] <halitech> here is alink to the software I think hareem is talking about http://openkiosk.sourceforge.net/docs.htm
[01:37] <jaggz-> what would my JAVA_HOME be?
[01:37] <hareem> i went through the docs
[01:37] <eternaljoy> how can I upgrade to Opera 9?
[01:37] <hareem> there is just one problem
[01:37] <hareem> i cant setup QT 3.x
[01:37] <hareem> i dont know how to set it up
[01:37] <eternaljoy> hareem: ok
[01:37] <hareem> thats where the problem is
[01:38] <LjL> hareem: you've been asked for the URL to the file. please give that. otherwise few people will be able to help, if they don't *have* the program.
[01:38] <jaggz-> I'm trying to install the voice recognition Sphynx project (http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/cmusphinx.php)
[01:38] <theshibboleth> Jemt: I'm afraid I can't find the info
[01:38] <jaggz-> I installed ant (apache ant) and am trying to handle the rest of the sphinx install.. having a few problems
[01:38] <jaggz-> ohh.. nevermind.. forgot to search the web for it first.. nevermind.
[01:39] <J-_> can i have gdesklets run when gtk 2.0 is running as well? i had a huge confliction last time i tried rendering the gui.. nautilus messed up HUGE, forget what software i tried to use though
[01:39] <hareem> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/openkiosk/nodeview-2.0.3.tar.gz?download
[01:39] <hareem> the download file link is : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/openkiosk/nodeview-2.0.3.tar.gz?download
[01:39] <eternaljoy> how can I remove Opera from Ubuntu?
[01:39] <hareem> i really appreciate what you guys are doing for me
[01:39] <CodeWarrior_> bye bye guys, thanks for the tips
[01:39] <Jemt> theshibboleth: Ok. I can send you two out of three installer scripts I have made. The last was for ACPI and CPU Scaling support. Just make sure you load 'acpi' in /etc/modules - then you should have Power Management support.
[01:39] <r3dhat> can anyone tell me if i need a bootloader to boot Ubuntu or can i make a bootdisk like fedora?
[01:40] <LjL> hareem: so it's not even the actual openkiosk that you're installed, but this nodeview module?
[01:40] <nickrud> eternaljoy, apt-get remove opera, if you used a repo. Otherwise, where'd you install it?
[01:40] <hareem> ?
[01:40] <eegore> quit
[01:40] <hareem> open kiosk is a client server software
[01:41] <hareem> the server module is nodeview
[01:41] <eternaljoy> nickrud: im downloading opera for breezy! it ends in .deb
[01:41] <eternaljoy> nickrud: how I install it?
[01:41] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[01:41] <nickrud> r3dhat, yes, you can make an install disk and not write grub. you'll need to use the expert install, though
[01:41] <J-_> why woldn't you use a repo, much easier...
[01:41] <r3dhat> ok thank you
[01:41] <nickrud> eternaljoy, sudo dpkg -i <file> , or if you're on dapper, just click it in the file manager
[01:41] <jmichaelx> i have four computers connected to a router, all four computers are usually running x/k/ubuntu (although OCCASIONALLY one may be running XP)... and i am wanting all four computers to share one printer. could someone direct me to a wiki or a forum where there would be instructions for this??
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: do I type dpkg -i opera.deb ?
[01:42] <nickrud> eternaljoy, whatever the name of the deb is, yes (and use sudo, of course)
[01:42] <tzadik> ok let me ask in a simpler
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so dapper made it easier?
[01:42] <tzadik> way
[01:42] <antox> eternaljoy: sudo dpkg -i opera.deb
[01:42] <robertj> is 4711824 too big for a dvdr?
[01:42] <tzadik> my dvd and cd used to be fast burning in breezy
[01:42] <tzadik> now in dapper they are slow
[01:42] <nickrud> eternaljoy, yes, they're using the gdebi tool, it's a gui deb installer
[01:42] <hareem> i went through the forum for this also. But i could not make any sense of it
[01:42] <tzadik> what do i do?
[01:42] <hareem> please help
[01:42] <eternaljoy> nickrud: file manager as in Nautilus?
[01:43] <nickrud> eternaljoy, yes
[01:43] <eternaljoy> antox: ok
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: well thats a good reason to upgreade to dapper :)
[01:43] <LjL> hareem: look, do me a favor and tell me the package you used for berkeley db. i'm not sure which one i should install
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ty
[01:43] <nickrud> eternaljoy, a trivial one, actually.
[01:43] <hareem> ok
[01:43] <eternaljoy> nickrud: define trivial
[01:44] <deameyes> anyone here work on podzilla?
[01:44] <hareem> here is the link for the DB: http://dev.sleepycat.com/downloads/optreg.html?fname=db-4.4.20.tar.gz&prod=core
[01:44] <LjL> hareem: oh, it's not a package in dapper? hmm
[01:45] <hareem> no. you have to complie and install it
[01:45] <hareem> but its not as hard as that QT
[01:45] <nickrud> eternaljoy, in this case, a gui that takes 3-4 times longer than dpkg -i
[01:46] <amonkey> i'm buying a laptop and have a choice between a atheros super ag and a intel pro/wireless 3945ABG. which is more ubuntu and linux friendly? is there a significant difference either way?
[01:47] <codecaine> is there a way to roll back update the update got my graphics card nto working right with certain programs
[01:47] <Raito> What is the default rom path for xmame?
[01:48] <nickrud> amonkey, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported can help you decide
[01:48] <hareem> i tried to load every lib that had the text "QT" in it. But unfortunately, its not working
[01:49] <J-_> how would i install a widget if it's a tar.gz?
[01:49] <nickrud> hareem, did you install the -dev versions of those libraries (needed for compiling)
[01:49] <hareem> yes
[01:49] <CarlFK> how come my box beeps every 30 min or so?  (^G pc speaker kinda beep, not from my sound card)
[01:49] <bruenig> J-_, go into terminal first and type tar -zxvf /path/to/whatever.tar.gz
[01:49] <hareem> but node view setup still says that qt is not installed
[01:50] <hareem> i dont know how that is possible
[01:50] <LjL> hareem: hmm, what about if you try after doing "export QTDIR=/usr/lib/qt3"
[01:50] <J-_> and that's it bruenig?
[01:51] <hareem> ? how can i do that
[01:51] <__mikem> GAIM is a hell of an irc client
[01:51] <Migit03> Anyone know if a AMD64 version of wine exists for Ubuntu (DD)? I've looked all over and I've turned up no working (i.e. works for a noob like me) solutions.
[01:52] <__mikem> Migit03 try vmware server on for size
[01:52] <Raito> Migit03: It doesn't exist, use the normal one in 32bit mode
[01:52] <LjL> hareem: just type that in the shell. if it doesn't work, try also "export QTDIR=/usr/lib", and/or   "export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3"
[01:52] <J-_> i like either kvirc, or bitchx =D
[01:52] <LjL> hareem: and/or "export QTDIR=/usr/include/qt3"
[01:52] <__mikem> J-_ I like irssi, but I think I am going to use gaim as an irc client from now on
[01:52] <J-_> could always go with irssi... a little more difficult =S
[01:52] <antox> what's then bad with gaim?
[01:52] <Migit03> Raito: It won't even let  me get the package for wine though (using synaptic)
[01:52] <hareem> export QTDIR=/usr/include/qt3 is this what i should type it
[01:53] <LjL> hareem: yes, try with that, then try installing, and if it doesn't work, try with the others i just told you
[01:53] <PreZ> hum, going through and selecting packages to install is exhausting when you include 'universe' .. ;)
[01:53] <Raito> Migit03: I would recommend just using the 32bit version of ubuntu, it is pretty much the same >_>
[01:53] <Migit03> argh, no performance loss?
[01:54] <__mikem> Migit03 I must again recomend vmware is the best way to go
[01:54] <nickrud> utility vs performance in some niche cases: i386 hands down
[01:54] <hareem> LjL man you are one hell of a genius
[01:54] <J-_> man, ubuntu kicks  a lot more arse than suse... ubuntu runs way smoother
[01:54] <LjL> hareem: works?
[01:54] <Migit03> mikem:I'll try it out
[01:54] <hareem>  i dont know what magic you did man but its working... its telling me to make install
[01:54] <__mikem> J-_ ubuntu hasn't been number 1 on distrowatch's top 10 for several years for nothing
[01:54] <LjL> hareem: as i suspected, that's a pretty horrible configure script
[01:55] <LjL> hareem: anyway, there's really no guarantee make and make install will work. but try
[01:55] <J-_> heh, well teh first distro i tried was suse 10, big mistake with a crappy system, i pretty much gave up..
[01:55] <J-_> then i was like hell, ubuntu sounds cool
[01:55] <J-_> so i tried it
[01:55] <hareem> its compiling
[01:55] <hareem> so it should work
[01:56] <hareem> so what stupidity was i performing that the script was not loading up
[01:56] <LjL> hareem: you weren't doing anything wrong. it's the script that's stupid
[01:56] <yallaman> um..does anyone use Lm-sensors here..need some help to get it running i think
[01:56] <BIAF> I need webmin help with 'Disk Quotas' how to install it or enable it
[01:56] <eternaljoy> is there a GUI in Ubuntu to remove programs?
[01:57] <Flannel> eternaljoy: yep.  synaptic
[01:57] <hareem> so i have to export that qt thing if i have to install this on a different machine
[01:57] <eternaljoy> Flannel: ok
[01:58] <eternaljoy> Flannel: do I need to remove Opera 8.51 before I install v9.0?
[01:58] <eternaljoy> nickrud: do I need to remove Opera 8.51 before I install v9.0?
[01:59] <nickrud> eternaljoy, depends on how you installed 8.51: if you used a deb, no
[01:59] <__mikem> Why do you install opera, firefox is better
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[01:59] <eternaljoy> nickrud: how can I know how it was installed?
[01:59] <eternaljoy> nickrud: cant remember
[01:59] <digi> nickrud: lspci doesnt detect my card, even when i enable it
[01:59] <nickrud> eternaljoy, dpkg -l opera ; if it shows there, you used a deb
[01:59] <Migit03> where can I find the .vmx files to run windows programs?
[02:00] <__mikem> Migit03 you have to install windows on the virtual machine
[02:00] <nickrud> digi, yeah, pnp isa cards are not something I know much about. You should watch for crimsun in this space
[02:00] <__mikem> by the way, what does mode -j mean
[02:00] <Migit03> oic
[02:00] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ii  opera                 8.51-20051114.6       The Opera Web Browser
[02:00] <digi> ok
[02:01] <pike_> anyone familar with thunar? im have a little script in sbin that is basically like mplayer cue://$@:2 i made it so its be easier for my parents to play bin/cue movies they just need to click on it and it will play. i just need some advise on telling thunar the associated action
[02:01] <eternaljoy> nickrud: so I dont need to remove? I just install the new opera?
[02:01] <nickrud> eternaljoy, then you used a deb. sudo dpkg -i will replace 8.51
[02:01] <J-_> isn't there a lot of "vulnerbilities" when you run a windows program on linux?
[02:01] <eternaljoy> nickrud: ok
[02:01] <digi> well nickrud ill just look in the forum maybe theres a soundcard troubleshootin thread  or something, thx for your help
[02:01] <nickrud> don't know about vulnerabilties, but tainting for sure ;)
[02:01] <LjL> Migit03: www.easyvmx.com allows you to create virtual machines
[02:01] <J-_> lol
[02:02] <nickrud> digi, I'm sure there is, but if you can catch crimsun, he's the ubuntu sound guru
[02:02] <digi> ok
[02:02] <__mikem> is easyvmx licensed by vmware
[02:02] <crimsun> ?
[02:02] <roostishaw> how do i get rid of the animationwhen i minimize a window
[02:02] <nickrud> sb awe, crimsun
[02:02] <__mikem> hey crimsun what does mode -j mean
[02:02] <roostishaw> *animation when
[02:02] <LjL> __mikem: no, i don't think so. nor do i think that creating a config file could ever be in any way illegal...
[02:02] <crimsun> digi: ``sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''
[02:02] <digi> crimsun: my soundcard isnt detected its a sound blaster awe
[02:03] <digi> yeah i just did that
[02:03] <crimsun> digi: did it return to a prompt or spit out an error?
[02:03] <digi> no promp but i have sound
[02:03] <crimsun> digi: good.
[02:03] <__mikem> it will create a machine with windows installed on it, that CAN'T be legal
[02:03] <digi> but
[02:03] <LjL> __mikem: no, it certainly won't create a machine with windows installed on it
[02:03] <digi> what do i do so i dont need to do sudo modprobe snd_sbawe each time i reboot?
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: echo snd-sbawe |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: it'll simply create an empty virtual drive (just like qemu-image can do), and a config file with the options you tell it
[02:04] <eternaljoy> VoX: hi :)
[02:04] <digi> i@linuxdid:~$ echo snd-sbawe | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[02:04] <digi> snd-sbawe
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: yep, you're all set.
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: if you then want to install Windows on it, nothing's stopping you from doing that as long as you have a licensed copy
[02:04] <__mikem> OH, so its sort of like the virtual machine wizard in Workstation eddition
[02:04] <digi> wow thanks crimsun
[02:04] <LjL> __mikem: correct
[02:04] <digi> ;)
[02:04] <crimsun> digi: np
[02:04] <digi> take care now
[02:04] <__mikem> oh, ok
[02:05] <LjL> __mikem: i'm sure there are programs around that do the very same thing. but using that site is easy enough that i never looked for any
[02:05] <LjL> (well, an obvious - free - candidate is vmware server, but then...)
[02:05] <__mikem> LjL theres vmware server for starters
[02:06] <nickrud> hundreds of dollars to run windows, I think not
[02:06] <LjL> yeah but then you'd probably go on using that rather than using the player :-) at any rate, i'm not sure vmware server is terribly easy to install
[02:06] <LjL> nickrud: there's always reactos. the original question was about "running windows applications" i think
[02:06] <__mikem> LjL I tried it once before my brother bought me workstation, it it is very easy to install, atleast on windows
[02:06] <LjL> (of course, there's also wine then)
[02:06] <nickrud> there's also defenstration ;)
[02:07] <J-_> wine *shutters*
[02:07] <__mikem> nickrud what?
[02:07] <LjL> __mikem: i have no doubts it's easy on windows, but on ubuntu it's a bit of another matter. the vmware player comes in Multiverse, together with the necessary kernel modules...
[02:07] <Raito> What is the default rom path for xmame?
[02:07] <nickrud> __mikem, throwing something out of a window
[02:07] <LjL> like throwing windows out of the window?
[02:07] <J-_> lol
[02:07] <nickrud> there you go !!
[02:07] <Dial_tone> something is preventing my nfs shares from automounting in fstab, very odd
[02:08] <Dial_tone> used to work
[02:08] <__mikem> I would love to throw windows out the window, but I still need it for certain programs. However, when ever I am not using those programs I am usually in ubuntu
[02:08] <nickrud> but, I have to run a single windows app, and vmware was just too much overkill. I reboot once or twice a week.
[02:08] <Hit3k> nickrud, use wine?
[02:08] <Dial_tone> nickrud: vmware player is lightweight
[02:09] <J-_> yeah i was the opposite, windows/linux, now it's going to be the opposite.. my p3(linux) runs better than my p4(winblows)
[02:09] <nickrud> Hit3k, Dial_tone it's a 'thing' . Just humor me :)
[02:09] <_TomB> what directory are the kernel headers stored in?
[02:10] <LjL> i'm not entirely sure the x86 architecture allows transparent virtual machines, "transparent" as in "recursively-possible"
[02:10] <jmichaelx> was there a bot attack in this room recently?
[02:11] <Raito> Does anyone know the default rom path for xmame? :/
[02:11] <__mikem> jmichaelx there was an attack last night at around midnight
[02:11] <jmichaelx> hmm
[02:12] <Tmob> anynoe know how to extract a driver out of a exe file?
[02:12] <Tmob> without windows..
[02:12] <__mikem> but it wasn't a bot attack from what I know, SOmeone said someone hijacked an op's screenname
[02:12] <Tmob> trying to get ndiswrapper working
[02:12] <__mikem> Tmob, wine
[02:12] <wastrel> Tmob:  it might be a self-extracting zip, if so unzip will work
[02:12] <nickrud> Tmob, I think cabextract does that
[02:12] <nickrud> Tmob, depends on the archive though
[02:12] <Tmob> oh
[02:12] <Tmob> lemme check :)
[02:12] <J-_> so, installing a widget, after using tar exvf/blah/blah/blah, does it do an install, and that's it?
[02:12] <Tmob> aha! its unzip!
[02:13] <wastrel> huzzah!
[02:14] <alex_> I GIVE UP! limewire is impossible to install!
[02:14] <J-_> lmfao
[02:14] <LjL> alex_: then don't install and use an alternative :)
[02:14] <nickrud> J-_, what kind of widget?
[02:14] <wastrel> i'm having trouble with ghemical
[02:14] <nickrud> !limewire
[02:14] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[02:14] <pike_> alex_: use frostwire :)
[02:14] <alex_> pike_: o
[02:14] <alex_> pike_: thanks
[02:14] <J-_> gdesklets
[02:15] <LjL> by the way, some fool had said that frostwire is in the repositories, in that factoid. it isn't, for all i can see
[02:15] <pike_> alex_: of course like nick said you need java
[02:15] <nickrud> J-_, oh, the evil one. You probably need to compile it
[02:15] <roostishaw> in a bash script, for instance in a read -p "qusetion here"  var, how do i make part of the question bold?
[02:15] <__mikem> Whose "the evil one"
[02:15] <J-_> damn
[02:15] <gnomefreak> LjL: it doesnt say anywhere in that fact that frostwire is in repos
[02:15] <nickrud> gdesklets
[02:15] <LjL> gnomefreak: no, it doesn't *now*, but it did before i changed it
[02:16] <LjL> gnomefreak: i.e. like until 3 hours ago
[02:16] <J-_> i don't know anything about that stuff, i should get on that journey...
[02:16] <gnomefreak> k
[02:16] <Ries> hey all, where can I find apt-setup ?   I need to configure apt so it will use de internet to get sources
[02:16] <nickrud> J-_, it's a fun one. Enjoy.
[02:16] <LjL> Ries: i don't know what apt-setup is. perhaps what you want is...
[02:16] <LjL> !repos
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:16] <J-_> i wonder if the tuxbox will get torched tonight *evil grin*
[02:17] <__mikem> whats the tuxbox?
[02:17] <Ries> ljl: apt-setup is a debian thing.....
[02:17] <J-_> my linux machine
[02:17] <nickrud> Ries, you probably only need to comment out the cdrom line in your sources ...
[02:17] <LjL> Ries: uhm, not a debian thing that i can find in my debian :o)  at any rate, what you want sounds like just editing your sources.list
[02:18] <gigaclon> my X-Chat is hosed
[02:18] <gigaclon> it doesn't respond to mouse commands
[02:18] <und3rtug4> hello fellow ubuntu users!
[02:18] <DR_K13> ahoy
[02:18] <J-_> reinstall it with synaptic?
[02:19] <__mikem> dpkg-reconfigure <what_ever_the_name_of_the_package_that_installs_xchat>
[02:19] <Ries> ljl: I just edited that, and removed the CDROM
[02:19] <FireFly> Hello
[02:19] <constantine-xvi> trying to update, (changed http to ftp from a fourm post) and i get timeouts after the security updates
[02:19] <perrupa> Hey guys, I'm having trouble getting my USB hard drive to work anymore. it used to autodetect in ubuntu dapper but now isn't coming up anymore. it isn't listed in /dev/ anymore either :| Any advice'd be appreciated
[02:19] <Migit03> so to use vmware i need to install windows within the virtual machine? (I already have windows installed on another hard drive on the same computer)
[02:20] <FireFly> how can I get the wmv codec, I tried VLC, but it didnt work. Do I just have to play the file on windows?
[02:20] <Sivik> Migit03, yes
[02:21] <Migit03> alright thanks (what's a few gigs of HD space)
[02:21] <LjL> Migit03: do you know about Wine?
[02:21] <Migit03> <see above> I use AMD64 version of ubuntu
[02:21] <LjL> oh
[02:21] <FireFly> how can I get the wmv codec, I tried VLC, but it didnt work. Do I just have to play the file on windows?
[02:21] <Ries> ljl: I do have apt-setup on my Debian machine, however editing sources.list worked perfectly
[02:21] <pike_> perrupa: like 'ls -t /dev | head' doesnt show a sda1 or sdb1?
[02:21] <aviation> is anyone using a nvidia card here on dapper? specifically a geforce fx 5200... i have some questions
[02:22] <swaj> FireFly:  http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ helps quite a bit with that sort of stuff
[02:22] <FireFly> thanks
[02:22] <swaj> np
[02:22] <LjL> aviation: i am, but it's not like i actually use the 3D
[02:23] <und3rtug4> FireFly, have you tried to search on sinaptic for wmv?? I think theres no dedicated package for it, but its packed somewhere on some package! =)
[02:23] <und3rtug4> *synaptic
[02:24] <perrupa> pike: nope, doesn't show either
[02:24] <J-_> is there a site where i can use as reference to see what packages i do and don't need installed?
[02:24] <aviation> LjL, can you tell me what you did to install it properly, im not sure what i did wrong... my highest resolution offered is 1024x768
[02:24] <perrupa> my sda1 internal HD is auto-mounting fine though
[02:24] <LjL> Migit03: anyway, my facetious mention of ReactOS could be a serious possibility. it runs in *way* less space than actual Windows, it's free, and it comes ready in a VMWare image
[02:25] <LjL> aviation: i just did "sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx", then "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it up to use then "nvidia" driver rather than "nv", then went through all the questions, then choose my resolutions and refreshrates
[02:26] <LjL> !nvidia
[02:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:26] <roger25> hi, can i enable a cursor shadow ?
[02:26] <spetsnazgg_> hello, i just setup a hp deskjet 5740 that was detected correctly by ubuntu. it's printing, but it seems to be printing offcenter of the page with the first line of my documents being cut off... how do i fix this?
[02:26] <roger25> (gnome i810)
[02:26] <LjL> roger25: the *default* cursor has a (small) shadow here
[02:27] <roger25> oh yes you're right
[02:27] <rak_> how should i mount my ipod using a firewire port? right now it's connected and getting power saying "do not disconnect"
[02:27] <spikeb> hmm
[02:27] <spikeb> mine automatically mounts
[02:27] <spikeb> either through firewire or usb
[02:27] <roger25> but it is possible more shadowed like the windows with xcompmgr ?
[02:27] <alex_> how do i install a .deb file?
[02:27] <Migit03> LjL:Where can I download it? Is it easy?
[02:28] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[02:28] <LjL> alex_: try gdebi, or "dpkg -i filename" if it doesn't require dependencies
[02:28] <rak_> yeah mind did too but then i did some update  on the ipod and it might have been a new install of ubuntu and now it doesn't
[02:28] <LjL> Migit03: yes it is
[02:28] <rak_> and it works through USB
[02:28] <alex_> LjL: Thanks
[02:28] <LjL> Migit03: http://www.reactos.org/xhtml/en/index.html  <- just download the vmware image. it's ready to go
[02:29] <Migit03> LjL: Nice thanks man (although looks like it's still in alpha...hope it works)
[02:30] <LjL> Migit03: well, it's alpha for sure (making a Windows clone certainly isn't easy), but it does run MS Office up to version 2000-something, Paint Shop Pro, and quite a bit of stuff (look at the screenshots, and i think there's a compatibility list somewhere)
[02:30] <LjL> Migit03: probably can run the same amount of apps that Wine can, except that ReactOS is an actual operating system and not just a compatibility layer
[02:30] <Migit03> right
[02:31] <roostishaw> where is my .bashrc file?
[02:31] <LjL> look at this screenshot, specifically http://www.reactos.org/media/screenshots/2005/ros_in_qemu.png  =)
[02:31] <pike_> roostishaw: /home/usrname/.bashrc
[02:31] <tmccrary> hi, since upgrading to dapper, my psc hp scanner no longer works
[02:31] <alex_> FrostWire works Great!!!
[02:31] <wastrel> $HOME/.bashrc
[02:31] <wastrel> ~/.bashrc
[02:32] <Healot> ~/.bashrc
[02:32] <tmccrary> Anyyone know why Dapper broke the HP PSC scanner/printer combo I have?
[02:32] <mrfishhat> how do i end a process when ksysguard's kill process wont work?
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: is this a joke?
[02:32] <LjL>   /home/`whoami`/.bashrc
[02:32] <wastrel> mrfishhat:  kill -9 <processid>
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: why did the chicken cross the road, sorta joke...lol
[02:32] <tmccrary> alex_: No, this is not a joke
[02:32] <roger25> (ok redglass got a big shadow and it is transparent all i want \o/)
[02:32] <alex_> tmccrary: gotcha
[02:32] <roostishaw> LjL, cat: /home/roostishaw/.bashrc: No such file or directory
[02:32] <mrfishhat> thank you wastrel
[02:33] <tmccrary> i.e., since installing Dapper, the scanner no longer works, it cannot communicate with the PSC any longer
[02:33] <wastrel> roostishaw:  you must have added that user with useradd ?
[02:33] <LjL> roostishaw: well my version of the command was actually more of a joke than anything else, look at what the other said instead :-) although, i'd have bet it would work consistently
[02:34] <roostishaw> it would work...
[02:34] <wastrel> roostishaw:  either create ~/.bashrc or copy the one out of /etc/skel/
[02:34] <roostishaw> wastrel, o. this is a user i made on install
[02:34] <wastrel> hm.  dunnox0rz
[02:35] <|rt|> anyone here ever install cgkit in ubuntu?
[02:35] <p47> could somebody help me with my sound card ? my sond card is detected by ubuntu, but when maked update I had problems, now I can't listen someting !
[02:35] <|rt|> i can't find any mention of it on the forums or wiki
[02:35] <rak_> does anyone have any idea about mounting ipods manually through firewire if it doesn't work automatically, or why it wouldn't mount automatically?
[02:35] <tmccrary> rt: welcome to the club
[02:35] <|rt|> tmccrary: you trying to install cgkit?
[02:36] <|rt|> tmccrary: i'm guessing that I just need to get the source from sf.net and install it manually
[02:36] <Migit03> LjL:I got ReactOS up, any idea how I can get it to access my other files?
[02:37] <LjL> Migit03: hmm don't quote me on this, but i don't think you *can* access files outside the virtual machine, using VMWare Player. however, i suppose you could setup a Samba server and access them from that
[02:37] <LjL> Migit03: (or an FTP server, or what you prefer)
[02:37] <Migit03> ...getting more complcated, alright then
[02:39] <ice60> highvoltage, will i be able to connect to the freenode servers if i setup TOR for IRC?
[02:39] <Healot> most of the time, yes
[02:39] <LjL> Migit03: well it's vmware *player*. it's crippled compared to workstation.
[02:39] <vinboy> what is a good program to mass rename mp3 filename according to id3 tag?
[02:39] <hawkaloogie> easytag
[02:39] <LjL> vinboy: eyeD3
[02:39] <pike_> p47: i had to do this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16491  after upgrading of course you might need to adapt it to your card
[02:39] <vinboy> thanks
[02:40] <ice60> Healot: were you talking to me?
[02:40] <yoshiznit123> vinboy, or musicbrainz
[02:40] <Migit03> LjL:Time to fire up azureus then
[02:40] <LjL> vinboy: eyed3 is a console program, easytag is gtk
[02:40] <vinboy> oh ok
[02:40] <p47> pike_: thank's I'll read that  !
[02:40] <vinboy> thanks guys
[02:40] <Healot> ice60: no :)
[02:40] <Dial_tone> can you grep with OR functionality?  like "ls ~/ | grep A OR B "
[02:40] <ice60> Healot: lol that's what i thought
[02:41] <LjL> Migit03: i didn't hear you. anyway, just for the record, vmware workstation is not as easy to install as vmware player, since vmware player comes packaged.
[02:41] <ice60> ><
[02:41] <yoshiznit123> dial_tone grep "a|b"
[02:41] <jmichaelx> are there decent instructions anywhere for setting up a PC as a printing server in dapper?? i cannot really find anything
[02:41] <Migit03> LjL:Yeah I think I'm just gonna switch to the i386 Ubuntu...too much hassel
[02:42] <LjL> !printing
[02:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:42] <jmichaelx> LjL: ty
[02:43] <LjL> Migit03: well setting you an ftp server isn't hard... and possibly samba isn't hard either, if Gnome comes with settings applet for that, though i don't use Gnome so i don't really know
[02:43] <jmichaelx> LjL: is there anything simply on network printing without windows?
[02:44] <disant> hi
[02:44] <disant> what is "symbol lookup error"?
[02:44] <disant> as in "symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3: undefined symbol: _ZNK7QWhdget16backgroundPixmapEv"
[02:44] <LjL> jmichaelx: i don't know, but that howto looks like it's really just as valid for linux clients as for windows clients.
[02:45] <Healot> that's Print server like CUPS is for...
[02:45] <LjL> disant: are you trying to run a program that was precompiled?
[02:45] <jmichaelx> LjL: ok i will look into it... so far about everything i have run into is extremely complicated for such a simple issue
[02:45] <LjL> Healot: yeah and since CUPS is the *default* printing engine in Ubuntu, activating its server-ness is easy enough
[02:45] <disant> LjL: yeah
[02:46] <disant> lib version mismatch
[02:46] <jmichaelx> LjL: if you say so, but i am not sure it is all that easy in ubuntu
[02:46] <LjL> disant: then it was probably compiled with gcc3 and your libqt is compiled with gcc4. the C++ interface to libraries is not compatible between these two
[02:46] <LjL> jmichaelx: what are you planning to serve to, other Ubuntu boxes?
[02:47] <jmichaelx> LjL: yes
[02:47] <jmichaelx> LjL:  well, other linux boxes, not all ubuntu
[02:47] <Junichi> hello everyone
[02:47] <Junichi> need help
[02:48] <Junichi> ubuntu does not recognize internet
[02:48] <Junichi> ifconfig says everything is fine
[02:48] <LjL> disant: a hint -- not sure this would work. you can download Google Earth for Linux, it comes with a lot of libraries among witch a libqt3-mt that's, I think, compiled with gcc3. you could use that (but DO NOT OVERWRITE your current libqt, just put the Google one somewhere in your home dir, and type "export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/blahblahblah" to make the programs find it
[02:48] <ice228> hello, how do i add my account to the sudoers list?
[02:48] <Tmob> anyone know what that tool is called which can draw system info on the root window?
[02:48] <Junichi> but firefox cant load any pages
[02:48] <Tmob> like battery, cpu, etc..
[02:48] <LjL> jmichaelx: then i'm pretty sure following that howto up to point 5 (included) will work.
[02:48] <disant> ice228, 'visudo'
[02:49] <PMT> Or /etc/sudoers editing, if you're bored.
[02:49] <jmichaelx> LjL: ty for the link
[02:49] <ddrj> guys, i have a laptop and a computer, the ubuntu live cd runs really well on the laptop, but on the computer it runs painfully slow, opening up the install icon on the desktop literally takes 4 minutes and 51 seconds. it's not the cd, because the cd runs really fast on the laptop. i enabled DMA with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom on the computer, but it still runs slow
[02:49] <pvd> The NVIDIA proprietary driver doesnt seem to be working right in Ubuntu.  When I go to open a slightly big window it takes a while to draw it. Its like black for half a second and then goes dowards drawing the rest of the screen.
[02:49] <pike_> Junichi: what kind of setup do you have cable modem? seperate router?
[02:49] <disant> Junichi, ping 72.14.207.99  (google.com)... if it doesnt respond.. you got DNS problem
[02:49] <bimberi> ice228: if you want the general ability to use sudo like the initial user you can just add the account to the 'admin' group
[02:50] <ddrj> anyone know what i do?
[02:50] <Junichi> ADSL modemrouter that automatically connets online
[02:50] <Junichi> distant: timed out
[02:50] <disant> Junichi, ping your modem/gateway
[02:50] <ice228> bimbery : my account is admoin but i still cant write to some folders
[02:51] <Junichi> distant: workds
[02:51] <Junichi> *works
[02:51] <Junichi> FF can even open the modem admin page
[02:51] <bimberi> ice228: having sudo ability won't give you additional access to folders
[02:51] <ice228> what does?
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: using 'sudo' itself to do commands as superuser
[02:52] <ice228> well, how do i write a .bin to the bin folder?
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: sudo cp file.bin /usr/local/bin
[02:52] <epimetrias> hey, is anyone running ubuntu on a powermac G5?
[02:52] <ice228> thanks
[02:52] <bimberi> ice228: yw :)
[02:53] <ddrj> guys, i have a laptop and a computer, the ubuntu live cd runs really well on the laptop, but on the computer it runs painfully slow, opening up the install icon on the desktop literally takes 4 minutes and 51 seconds. it's not the cd, because the cd runs really fast on the laptop. i enabled DMA with sudo hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom on the computer, but it still runs slow. anyone had a problem with live cd running this slow?
[02:53] <disant> how much memory do you have on the laptop?
[02:53] <NickGarvey> ddrj: need more ram?
[02:53] <Junichi> distant: despite being able to access the modem and DCHP enabled ubuntu isnt online
[02:53] <ddrj> i have 256mb ddr ram and 2.8ghz
[02:53] <Junichi> I dont know what to do
[02:53] <alex_> ddrj: I did. but after the install it was pretty good.
[02:54] <gigaclon> err I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:54] <ddrj> hm...
[02:54] <NickGarvey> ddrj: thats not very much ram
[02:54] <gigaclon> how can i fix
[02:54] <NickGarvey> ddrj: very fast computer
[02:54] <Sivik> why would my wireless card be only giving me a IPv6 and not an IPv4?
[02:54] <disant> check your netowrk card configurations... make sure your gateway is pointing to the modem ip
[02:54] <ddrj> true, but i read that it only needs 64mb ram to run though
[02:54] <Sivik> disant: but i'm getting it via dhcp
[02:54] <p47> know someone how to configure a volume control on keyboar dell ?
[02:54] <Junichi> the etho config?
[02:55] <ddrj> on the other hand, i have 512 ram on my laptop and it runs pretty fast :\
[02:55] <disant> Sivik, that was fro Junichi, sorry
[02:55] <Sivik> disant, sorry
[02:56] <disant> Junichi, yes
[02:56] <Junichi> that one was set to DCHP..
[02:56] <Junichi> I'll go try anyway
[02:57] <gigaclon> I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:57] <Trae> how can I tell if my Ubuntu install process is hung?
[02:57] <NickGarvey> disant: easier, don't need to set it up
[02:57] <Trae> I'm at 84% and it's just sitting there
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Trae: how long have you waited?
[02:57] <NickGarvey> Trae: it might just be installing a very very big file
[02:57] <Trae> NickGarvey hmmm.... 5mins?
[02:58] <NickGarvey> Trae: psch! give it more than that
[02:58] <Trae> NickGarvey true, this is a fairly fast machine
[02:58] <Trae> NickGarvey hehe
[02:58] <NickGarvey> :)
[02:58] <Trae> 2.8Ghz w/3G of ram
[02:58] <Trae> not fast, but not slow
[02:58] <disant> indeed
[02:58] <L-----D> Trae: maybe you he is trying to get somthing from net, while you can't
[02:58] <wastrel> lord
[02:58] <wastrel> that's a better machine than i've ever had.
[02:58] <gigaclon> Testing testing can you read me
[02:59] <Trae> wastrel heh
[02:59] <Kartharak_> How does XFCE match up agains GNOME?
[02:59] <Trae> gigaclon no, we can't read you.
[02:59] <Trae> gigaclon :)
[02:59] <gigaclon> ok thanks
[02:59] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[02:59] <Xen> does anyone know?
[02:59] <gigaclon> been having connection problems
[02:59] <gigaclon> I found this while running chkrootkit, wlan0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient3[4966] )
[02:59] <gigaclon> can anyone help
[02:59] <Trae> is there some way I can check to see if the system is doing something?
[02:59] <Trae> again, trying to install
[03:00] <crimsun> gigaclon: that's normal.
[03:00] <Trae> and it seems like it's hanging
[03:00] <gigaclon> ok
[03:00] <PMT> gigaclon - That's just your DHCP client.
[03:00] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:00] <disant> man I was amazed last nite.. my new wireless card worked out of the box
[03:00] <Trae> surely... I should be able to check some place to ascertain the status of things during my install
[03:00] <Xen> does anyone know? how XFCE matches up against GNOME?
[03:00] <Trae> Xen: it's not bad
[03:00] <Trae> Xen: but... there are issues with it...
[03:01] <Trae> or there was for me
[03:01] <disant> XFCE sux IMHO :)
[03:01] <NickGarvey> xen: I use it for vmware all the time, I like it very much
[03:01] <skavenge> disant ; feel lucky, it took me a week with mine haha
[03:01] <swaj> XFCE is pretty nice these days, but Gnome is much better imo
[03:01] <Trae> xfce has some advantages over gnome
[03:01] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:01] <disant> skavenge: what card
[03:01] <L-----D> surely, SFCE runs faster
[03:01] <Trae> swaj nod
[03:01] <Xen> Trae: what sprt?
[03:01] <disant> Xen, one word for you "fluxbox"
[03:01] <crimsun> Trae: one of the other consoles (alt+F# where # > 2)
[03:01] <Trae> so no one knows how to check on my processes during install?
[03:01] <Xen> NickGarvey: is it faster or of sort?
[03:01] <skavenge> disant; dell knockoff broadcom crap
[03:01] <Trae> crimsun oh there you be
[03:01] <NickGarvey> if I have one entry in hosts.allow and nothing in hosts.deny, will all computers be able to access my computer?
[03:01] <Trae> crimsun in X
[03:01] <Xen> disant: what's good about it?
[03:02] <swaj> I used to be a KDE-addict... but Gnome/GTK2 is just too sweet
[03:02] <NickGarvey> xen: its much faster than many other desktops
[03:02] <Trae> crimsun used the X install method  still go to console?
[03:02] <crimsun> Trae: perhaps ctrl+alt+F# where # >= 2 ?
[03:02] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  i thought only inetd and ssh honor hosts.allow anymore
[03:02] <crimsun> Trae: no idea, I don't know its innards
[03:02] <disant> D-Link WDA-2320 Rangebooster... $49 at BestBuys
[03:02] <NickGarvey> if I have one entry in hosts.allow and nothing in hosts.deny, will all computers be able to access my computer?
[03:02] <NickGarvey> eek wrong window
[03:02] <disant> Xen, simplicity.. but again.. to each his own
[03:02] <Daveyboy> during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:03] <NickGarvey> wastrel: not sure, I want to set up my nfs server to only allow connections from computers that have 192.168.*.*
[03:03] <Trae> :/
[03:03] <Trae> still 84%
[03:03] <disant> Trae, try putting another quarter in...
[03:03] <Trae> disant :P
[03:03] <disant> .. or two dimes and a nickle
[03:03] <Trae> disant and spitting in the back of it and hitting it too?
[03:04] <Xen> NickGarvey: Im on a 2Ghz P4 Dell laptop, kinda old.. 512MB ram.. would it benefit me above GNOME?
[03:04] <Daveyboy> is fluxbox the minimalist wm?
[03:04] <disant> Xen, lets ask the right question.. what will you use that laptop for? internet? gaming?
[03:04] <sylvain> hi I'm just looking for some file-zilla clone or other user-friendly FTP under ubuntu, any suggestions? (there's too much ftp-related stuff on the net, I'm dizzy :P)
[03:04] <LjL> i've got a slow dual-core Intel 8Ghz with only 16 gigs of RAM, should i use window maker for faster UI response?
[03:04] <skavenge> ive got a 1.6 gig with 512 laptop gnome is fast enough for me heh
[03:04] <Xen> disant: just general applications
[03:05] <jmichaelx> LjL: well, i followed those instructions through step 5, but still no go.....
[03:05] <Xen> disant: word processing, IM, web browsing
[03:05] <nickrud> LjL, that is so cruel ;P
[03:05] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd>  does anyone know how this error can be fixed? :(firefox-bin:27205): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[03:05] <LjL> nickrud: err, i don't *actually* have such a thing
[03:05] <five_laptop> ugh
[03:05] <five_laptop> anyone use wordpress?
[03:05] <LjL> jmichaelx: can you go to http://serveraddress:631 from the other machines?
[03:05] <nickrud> LjL, the mockery, oh, the mockery
[03:05] <Daveyboy> who is the install guru here?
[03:06] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[03:06] <Trae> hah
[03:06] <Trae> the tool says:  configuring apt...
[03:06] <Trae> the little window
[03:06] <Trae> I opened up a term
[03:06] <Trae> and did:
[03:06] <Trae> apt-get update
[03:06] <Xen> disant: just general applications
[03:06] <Xen> disant: word processing, IM, web browsing
[03:06] <Trae> and apt is running
[03:06] <Trae> clearly... something went wrong
[03:07] <Trae> Has anyone heard any misgivings with the X based install and Dapper?
[03:07] <disant> :) still remember I used to run my firewall on old 486 16M of RAM.. took me 3 days to recompile kernel :)
[03:07] <crimsun> Trae: severe, if you have an NTFS partition
[03:07] <disant> Xen: gnome should be enough for you
[03:07] <Trae> crimsun no NTFS
[03:07] <Xen> disant: what if i find it slows down too often at times?
[03:07] <L-----D> Trae: I think you must wait until timeout
[03:07] <crimsun> Trae: should be safe then, but I prefer the text-based one on the alternate iso
[03:07] <disant> then troubleshoot it.. figure out what slows it down
[03:08] <Daveyboy> crimsun, during installing the base system...its been stuck on 59% "unpacking xfprogs", is there a hot key sequence to skip to the next package?
[03:08] <james_xxx> LjL: this is jmichaelx on a different PC, and no, http://serveraddress:631 doesn't work
[03:08] <Trae> hmmmm
[03:08] <disant> i'm running Solaris x86 w/Java desktop.. I like it...  go w/default
[03:08] <crimsun> Daveyboy: sorry, missing context?
[03:09] <Trae> hah
[03:09] <Trae> I think it auto-configured my neighbors wireless
[03:09] <Trae> bawhahha
[03:09] <james_xxx> lol
[03:09] <Sivik> lol
[03:09] <waldo> HOW do I start ubuntu w/o X11 (screwed up drivers or something)
[03:10] <Daveyboy> crimsun, during ubuntu install, it is stuck in "installl base system" 59% can i bypass this package that is stuck or do anything its just unresponsive...
[03:10] <disant> LjL, bah.. removing libqt3-mt and reinstalling mythtv fixed it... that was the app I tried to fix and its working.. prob broke smth else.. but hey :)  (my wife wanted to watch some show.. so that's a priority :)
[03:10] <Trae> I was like, how am I on the net?  cause I use wep (I know it isn't wpa :P )
[03:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd>  does anypne know how this error can be fixed? :(firefox-bin:27205): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "qtengine",
[03:10] <crimsun> Daveyboy: using which installer, graphical or text-based?
[03:10] <james_xxx> Trae: i am probably providing wireless access to half of my neighborhood as we speak :-))
[03:10] <waldo> is it possible to start ubuntu w/o X11?
[03:10] <Daveyboy> crimsun, oem install
[03:10] <Trae> james_xxx *chuckle*
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you put a WEP or WPA on your card?
[03:11] <Patrick__> hey all, whats the fastest program to crack through windows passwords while using the windows computer?
[03:11] <Trae> I don't mind it but this doods connection is weak
[03:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: during boot and always?
[03:11] <james_xxx> Sivik: no
[03:11] <crimsun> Daveyboy: I presume the text-based one?
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, why not?
[03:11] <Patrick__> i know this is an off topic question, since its not regarding linux and all but this is the fastest way I can find out
[03:11] <waldo> r0cturRnal-fiend -- just while i fix whatever is wrong with it
[03:11] <Daveyboy> crimsun, no  graphical (blue screen)
[03:11] <disant> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, did you try 'ol friend google?
[03:11] <Trae> Patrick__ #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:11] <james_xxx> Sivik: i don't even know what all of that is :-(
[03:11] <disant> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, i think you need to install gtk-qt-engine
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, lol
[03:11] <sam_> Question: I have a usb camera plugged in.. it doesn't matter if it works or not, I intend to use it in vmware. Anyway, when ubuntu does its hardware autodetection routine, it detects a microphone in this usb camera, loads snd_usb_audio and screws up my sound. is there any way i can say, hey, don't load this module because i don't want it
[03:11] <Sivik> james_xxx, what kind of wireless ap is it
[03:12] <james_xxx> a linksys wireless router
[03:12] <Sivik> ok, go to your browers and type 192.168.1.1
[03:12] <pike_> waldo: couple different ways if just temp you could chmod -x /etc/init.d/gdm then chmod +x for it to run at boot again
[03:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: during boot press ctrl+alt+f1 a few times ,
[03:12] <waldo> Let me try alt-f1 cuz I have no ssh right now.....  I'm kinda locke dout
[03:12] <crimsun> Daveyboy: I'm not at all familiar w/ ubiquity, the gui installer
[03:13] <james_xxx> Sivik: it wants a user name and password
[03:13] <Sivik> james_xxx, user: admin, password: admin
[03:13] <Daveyboy> crimsun, screw it ill strat over in text bode
[03:13] <sam_> is there some way to configure the hardware autodetection?
[03:13] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> disant: i did try google , and i have the latest gtk-gt engine installed ,
[03:13] <Sivik> james_xxx, are you in?
[03:13] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok now what ? lol
[03:14] <james_xxx> Sivik: yes
[03:14] <jasonm_> is there a support forum for Rhythmbox?
[03:14] <Sivik> james_xxx, go to the second tab, that says wireless
[03:14] <Daveyboy> when i "install server" does it come with a graphical environment?
[03:14] <waldo> damn as soon as gdm starts I get locked out.  I need a way to get it to NOT run on boot... isn't there an interactive startup you can set up in grub when it starts?
[03:14] <Sivik> Daveyboy, no
[03:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jasonm_: where/
[03:14] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok. i am there
[03:14] <Daveyboy> so ide have to apt-get what?
[03:14] <Sivik> james_xxx, go to the second tab under that, that says security
[03:14] <Trae> going to try and restart
[03:15] <jasonm_> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, sorry?
[03:15] <Trae> I'm going to setup my wireless before I start the install
[03:15] <Daveyboy> cause it wont "startx"
[03:15] <Sivik> Daveyboy, there isn't a GUI when you install the server
[03:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> waldo: press escape when the grub starts loading , u can boot in recovery mode (as root)
[03:15] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i am there
[03:15] <Trae> that's probably the problem.
[03:15] <waldo> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: thanks I'm trying that now...
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> !info
[03:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about info
[03:15] <cArNaGe`> !users
[03:15] <Daveyboy> Sivik, but if i wanted to install gui, can I?
[03:15] <Sivik> james_xxx, there should be a pull down menu that currently says disabled, choose WEP
[03:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about users
[03:15] <pike_> Daveyboy: for full fledged desktop ubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop depending on the environment you want
[03:15] <Sivik> Daveyboy, yes
[03:16] <Trae> it tried to connect and update from the net and timed out or some crap because of the poor connection
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> Sysinfo for 'linux': Linux 2.6.15-23-386 running KDE 3.5.2, CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ at 1300 MHz (2606 bogomips), HD: 18/109GB, RAM: 426/440MB, 102 proc's, 6.1d up
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> that look ok/
[03:16] <james_xxx> Sivik: will that disconnect any of my PCs from the network?
[03:16] <swaj> are there any tools in Ubuntu that can burn an ISO image?  I can't seem to find the option in the "CD/DVD Burner"
[03:16] <pike_> Daveyboy: but you dont have to install those big packages for a gui
[03:16] <Trae> cArNaGe` you play bzflag?
[03:16] <Sivik> james_xxx, are you currently connected wirelessly with anyof them?
[03:16] <Trae> heh
[03:16] <DR_K13> Did freenode get hacked?
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> bf2
[03:16] <Trae> cArNaGe` k, nm
[03:16] <james_xxx> Sivik: at the moment, no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> sourse
[03:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jasonm_: u were asking for suppoer for some player , this is support for evferything pretty much
[03:16] <Sivik> james_xxx, then no
[03:16] <cArNaGe`> source
[03:16] <nickrud> swaj, right click he iso in the file manager, select write to disk
[03:16] <james_xxx> ok
[03:16] <Daveyboy> pike_, fluxbox?
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, this only has to do with wireless, not wired
[03:17] <Trae> I know a carnage from bzflag
[03:17] <Trae> :)
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, ah, thanks ;)
[03:17] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i chose WEP
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, once you choose WEP, it should asked for a passphase
[03:17] <pike_> Daveyboy: im not really sure but maybe you could just apt-get xserver-xorg and fluxbox
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, is the same possible with *.img files?
[03:17] <james_xxx> Sivik: yes, it does... do i just make something up?
[03:17] <Sivik> james_xxx, enter in a password of some sort and then it will list some stuff in HEX, and then hit the save changes down at the bottom
[03:17] <swaj> nickrud, or BIN/CUE for that matter?
[03:18] <nickrud> swaj, I don't know, truthfully I don't mess much with cd's and the like. bchunk converts bin/cue to iso, I know that much.
[03:18] <Sivik> james_xxx, yes, just make something up, more than 6 digits with a numbe and capitalized letter in it
[03:18] <Daveyboy> pike_, xserver-xorg is the layer between kernel and gui?
[03:18] <Sivik> and put a number at the end
[03:18] <pike_> Daveyboy: xubuntu is pretty lightweight
[03:18] <swaj> nickrud, okay, thanks ;)
[03:18] <Sivik> pike_: you can do that, thats how i installed ubuntu on my desktop
[03:18] <Sivik> pike_, did the server first, and then installed x and e16
[03:19] <Sivik> james_xxx, now no one unless they know your key, can use your wireless, unless they crack it
[03:19] <james_xxx> Sivik: i entered a password, but i do not s3ee any hex stuff
[03:19] <pike_> Daveyboy: so i guess you either install one of the ubuntu-desktop packages or do what sivik did
[03:20] <swaj> what is the one big development package for ubuntu that installs gcc and all the appropriate libraries?  I can't seem to remember
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx: don't worry about it, after you enter a passphase, there should be 4 places where a bunch of numbers and letters are, thats the HEX stuff, just save the router now
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx, at the bottom of the screen
[03:20] <Daveyboy> so apt-get install x and apt-get install e16?
[03:20] <james_xxx> Sivik: there is nothing in those four lines
[03:20] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you enter a passphase?
[03:20] <_TomB> what is the way to create a deb package after you've modified the apt-get source of it?
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: i entered one, yes
[03:21] <pike_> Daveyboy: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and then whatever window manager you want fluxbox or e16 etc
[03:21] <Sivik> james_xxx, did you choose the WEP encryption method just above where you entered the passphase
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: ok, i needed to hit 'generate'
[03:21] <james_xxx> Sivik: i got it now
[03:21] <Sivik> yeah
[03:21] <Daveyboy> so fluxbox is pretty minimal?
[03:22] <eobanb> yes, it is, Daveyboy
[03:22] <Daveyboy> its a 400 mhz 256ram
[03:22] <james_xxx> Sivik: thanks a lot for that
[03:22] <Sivik> james_xxx, yw
[03:22] <pike_> Daveyboy: very you could just apt-get xubuntu-desktop should run ok with those specs
[03:22] <eobanb> i agree with pike_
[03:22] <eobanb> Daveyboy, try xubuntu.
[03:22] <james_xxx> Daveyboy: what kind of processor is that?
[03:23] <Daveyboy> amd k62
[03:23] <cef> hrm, since upgrading to dapper, my cups printing seems to have died. any suggestions on where to start? I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager
[03:23] <james_xxx> ok i agree about xubuntu
[03:23] <Daveyboy> so xserver-xorg always forst then wm?
[03:23] <ardinary> How do I enable sound?
[03:23] <Trae> ok... let's see how well this install gets off to.
[03:23] <eobanb> Daveyboy, no, just sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:24] <Trae> Daveyboy make sure you want it.
[03:24] <james_xxx> i have a P2 @ 400Mhz, and it handles ubuntu fine, but my AMD K6-@ @ 500Mhz does better with xubuntu
[03:24] <disant> Trae, :)
[03:24] <Trae> Daveyboy it'll change all your GDM stuff to reflect xubuntu
[03:24] <Daveyboy> it will automatically install xserver-xorg
[03:24] <eobanb> james_xxx, different amounts of RAM perhaps?
[03:24] <eobanb> Daveyboy, yes
[03:24] <eobanb> Trae, he doesnt have gdm
[03:24] <Trae> ahhh
[03:24] <eobanb> he installed the server version
[03:24] <james_xxx> eobanb: actually , the AMD has more ram
[03:24] <Trae> nm then
[03:24] <Trae> :)
[03:25] <Daveyboy> so when does ubuntu become ubuntu, ? as opposed to suse or mandrake, at what layer during the install
[03:25] <Trae> I made the mistake and installed compiz
[03:25] <Trae> :(
[03:25] <Trae> stupid thing wouldn't work
[03:25] <Daveyboy> Trae, gdm=?
[03:25] <james_xxx> eobanb: the P2 has 256MB and the AMD has 256 + 64
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy login manager
[03:25] <eobanb> Daveyboy, don't think of it like that
[03:25] <jrib> _TomB: I use dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -rfakeroot
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy when you boot your computer it's the screen that allows you to put in user/pass
[03:25] <Trae> Daveyboy no worries.
[03:25] <crimsun> Trae: you LOVE the crack.
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun heh
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun meh, went back to gnome
[03:26] <Trae> crimsun it was nice... there were some great things about xfce
[03:26] <Daveyboy> cause i'm wondering if it would be easier to build from scratch and pick my own kernel etc.
[03:26] <crimsun> welcome back, prodigal son.
[03:26] <Trae> but....
[03:26] <debian_> has anyone had any issues with getting the eyedropper color picker to work when using the Colorzilla Firefox pluggin with firefox under dapper?
[03:26] <Trae> heh
[03:26] <Trae> I hate gnome
[03:26] <Trae> :(
[03:26] <eobanb> debian_, i've never heard of that extension
[03:26] <james_xxx> i still wish i could get network prining going with k/u/xubuntu, but so far just frustration
[03:26] <eobanb> Trae, no need to troll
[03:26] <Trae> it just sucks less than everything else.
[03:26] <Trae> *sigh*
[03:27] <_TomB> thank you jrib
[03:27] <Trae> eoban not trolling
[03:27] <Trae> just being serious
[03:27] <james_xxx> Trae: i love KDE :-D
[03:27] <Trae> there are tons of things I hate about it.
[03:27] <Daveyboy> so what makes ubuntu unique?
[03:27] <swaj> Compiz just seems rather silly to me :P
[03:27] <NickGarvey> Trae: troll11oneone
[03:27] <Trae> NickGarvey :P~~~~
[03:27] <NickGarvey> Daveyboy: it pwns
[03:27] <eobanb> window manager flamewars shall be taken to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:27] <Daveyboy> pwns?
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy heh, you a bot?
[03:27] <Daveyboy> yeah..bigtime
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy or fresh off the "dial-up" boat.
[03:27] <Trae> Daveyboy ;)
[03:28] <Trae> Daveyboy pwns = owns
[03:28] <Daveyboy> trae, or you don't now the answer
[03:28] <Daveyboy> *know
[03:28] <cef> hrm, since upgrading to dapper, my cups printing seems to have died. any suggestions on where to start? I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager. I'm printing to a remote ipp based printer
[03:28] <Trae> Daveyboy silly stupid internets speak
[03:28] <swaj> Daveyboy, mostly Ubuntu is popular because it's just soooo much better at detecting hardware off default install and you don't have to mess with low-level system settings so much.  It's super easy to use... the package management system (apt) makes installing software so much easier.  Overall the entire OS is clean and user-friendly.  It's Linux for the average joe, and not the uber geek.
[03:28] <Daveyboy> so what makes it different than slackware
[03:28] <Trae> ok...82%
[03:28] <Trae> let's hope...
[03:29] <Trae> 84%
[03:29] <Trae> here we go
[03:29] <Trae> scanningthe mirrors
[03:29] <Trae> waiting...
[03:29] <Daveyboy> swaj, thanks
[03:29] <eobanb> Trae, would you mind not talking so much please
[03:29] <Trae> eobanb: :P
[03:29] <Trae> w00p! it got past 84%
[03:29] <hawkaloogie> Trae, or at least not using the "Enter" key as your only punctuation
[03:29] <swaj> Daveyboy, np ;)
[03:29] <pike_> Daveyboy: you might consider apt-getting kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k6 dont know how much of a difference in speed it would make..
[03:29] <Trae> crimsun so... the problem with stopping at 84% seems to be the fact it's trying to connect to the mirrors.
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun someone might have had their connection auto-configured by mistake.  And caused a timeout.
[03:30] <jinho> Hi, I'm having a lot of difficulty installing GTK 2.8, especially pango wont install properly- when I do sh autogen.sh I get a message saying m4 macros not found
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun that was my problem.
[03:30] <james_xxx> pike_: you think that could make a difference??
[03:30] <swaj> Daveyboy, another sweet thing about Ubuntu is the fact that this channel is full of tons of helpful people that are always willing to answer "newbie" quesions :P
[03:30] <Trae> crimsun just something to note.
[03:30] <Trae> hawkaloogie :P~~~
[03:31] <eobanb> jinho, what is the exact name of the package you're trying to install
[03:31] <jinho> pango
[03:31] <Trae> sweet, problem solved.
[03:31] <jinho> eobanb: pango
[03:31] <pike_> james_xxx: not sure i always use the k7 kernel instead of 386 or 686 but cant really say i notice a difference. except for very occational package problems :)
[03:31] <BIAF> say if one wants to backup a whole HD of a linux server incase of a crash, what is the best way/tool/method to backup a whole drive that when a recovery is requested, it dont take 3 years to get back in action?
[03:32] <eobanb> jinho, libpango1.0-dev ?
[03:32] <Awesome-o2000> BIAF, i lik ghost for linux personally
[03:32] <BIAF> cool
[03:32] <PacketScan> Awesome-o2000, g4u rocks
[03:32] <BIAF> sector by sector copy?
[03:32] <jinho> eobanb: i guess that's what it is-
[03:32] <Weirdbro> Someone told me freenode was hijacked. What happened?
[03:32] <BIAF> so when HD is replaced, the boot wont freak?
[03:32] <Awesome-o2000> BIAF, you can do a raw copy or a compressed image. Its your choice really
[03:32] <eobanb> Weirdbro, this is not the place for that question
[03:33] <jinho> eobanb: i just want to install GTK so I can install something else- and this is getting sort of frustrating
[03:33] <hyphenated> BIAF: wouldn't a RAID setup be a better idea for a server?
[03:33] <Weirdbro> I don't know the place for that question.
[03:33] <PacketScan> Weirdbro, it's on /. and digg
[03:33] <Weirdbro> This is the only freenode channel I know the name of.
[03:33] <PacketScan> hyphenated, yes
[03:33] <BIAF> hyp : yes it would
[03:33] <eobanb> jinho, well what is the 'something else'?
[03:33] <BIAF> good idea, but my wee server only a PII with old school bios
[03:33] <hyphenated> ..but?
[03:33] <swaj> BIAF, I hear http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/ is really good for backups/drive images
[03:33] <Awesome-o2000> Weirdbro, someone impersonated nickserv and took over the network. Evidently there werent some basic security measures taken with the network
[03:33] <Trae> Weirdbro hi-jacked?
[03:33] <hyphenated> oh, not worth the $$ in your case. fair enough
[03:33] <Daveyboy> do i need a swap partition ?
[03:34] <BIAF> tho, i think i should go for raid
[03:34] <swaj> Awesome-o2000, when did this happen?
[03:34] <BIAF> thx swaj, will check out now
[03:34] <Fracture> is it possible to install mysql server 4 and 5 side by side on ubuntu using apt ?
[03:34] <pike_> Daveyboy: yes it doesnt have to be huge maybe 256 to 500mb
[03:34] <Awesome-o2000> swaj, a couple of days ago
[03:34] <jinho> eobanb: nabi- a korean input system that needs an updated version of GTK
[03:34] <swaj> sigh, q:lines are amazing :P
[03:35] <eobanb> jinho, i assume you installed the 'nabi' package then?
[03:35] <Trae> Awesome-o2000 when did this happen?
[03:35] <BIAF> yes Fract, as far as i know, but better use 5 on its own?
[03:35] <jinho> eobanb: havent been able to
[03:35] <eobanb> why not?
[03:35] <jinho> eobanb: because GTK isnt updated yet
[03:36] <Healot> joen iman gamnida?
[03:36] <eobanb> jinho, apt should have resolved any such dependencies
[03:36] <majd_> Hi, i just bought an iMac and a macbook. I want to set my ubuntu box as the server for all my files and have my macs just be clients for all my: Music, Movies, Files, and Work
[03:36] <majd_> I have a public apache server setp
[03:36] <majd_> *setup
[03:37] <majd_> Where do i start?
[03:37] <eobanb> majd_, that's a big question.
[03:37] <majd_> i can't get to my shared folders from my mac
[03:37] <eobanb> majd_, one step at a time..
[03:37] <majd_> eobanb, i mean i dont even know what needs to be done :(
[03:37] <BIAF> goto 'places' Majd, search for ur mac IP
[03:37] <majd_> i'm willing to learn though
[03:37] <mgi> hey .. anyone here had much experience with dapper (2.6.15-25) and dvb-t?
[03:38] <cef> I'm getting "Paused: /usr/lib/cups/backend/http failed" in the gnome print manager when printing to a remote ipp based printer. Used to work on this machine back when it ran breezy, but since the upgrade to dapper it's not working anymore. Any suggestions?
[03:38] <eobanb> majd_, i assume all you want to really do is just set up file sharing on the ubuntu machine so that the shares can be mounted on your two macs.
[03:38] <woodwizzlefoshiz> v
[03:38] <BIAF> majd_ : places, connect to server, then in there select 'windows share'
[03:39] <BIAF> then where server box is, type ur mac's ip
[03:39] <eobanb> BIAF, i don't think you understand what he's trying to do
[03:39] <TSCHAK> what determines which buttons show up on the shutdown panel????
[03:39] <BIAF> but no point looking for share if ur mac not shared right
[03:39] <BIAF> prob'ly not
[03:40] <Daveyboy> why is the oem install (gui) exactly the same as text based install ....bith are vga blue screen mode
[03:40] <eobanb> BIAF, majd_ is trying to use his ubuntu machine as a file server, and to that end he needs to install samba or nfs on the ubuntu machine
[03:40] <yallaman> what fps games are nice under linux?
[03:40] <eobanb> yallaman, tremulous ?
[03:41] <yallaman> never heard of that:P
[03:41] <eobanb> yallaman, to what games are you referring
[03:41] <Healot> egoboo
[03:41] <void^> Daveyboy: gui install is on desktop install cds, alternate install cds are text mode only
[03:41] <badrinarayan> eobanb, we can also install Netatalk, avahi-daemon, libnss-mdns so that the ubunntu server has zeroconf support and can talk apple talk protocols.
[03:41] <eobanb> open-source linux games, ports of windows games, windows games under wine..?
[03:41] <yallaman> 3d/opengl first-person shooter..or similar
[03:42] <BIAF> majd : this might sound like windows but right mouse on the folder you want to serve on ur linux box, and click share, then u have choice of sama or NFS
[03:42] <eobanb> badrinarayan, sure, that's an option for him, although mac os x can do fine with a samba share
[03:42] <yallaman> port or linux games
[03:42] <mgi> so, does anyone have any experience with dvb-t?
[03:42] <eobanb> BIAF, that choice only appears if he's already installed samba or NFS
[03:42] <eobanb> BIAF, i don't mean to be rude, but i don't think you are helping here
[03:43] <eobanb> yallaman, you should definitely try tremulous
[03:43] <eobanb> yallaman, it's based on quake III
[03:43] <CokeNCode> i hear freenode got hacked, is that true  ?
[03:43] <BIAF> if hes installed ubuntu-desktop or full desktop, then it should be there reay to deploy
[03:43] <eobanb> CokeNCode, not the place for that question
[03:43] <Daveyboy> void^, yah i have an alternate iso, so i HAVE TO use text mode?
[03:43] <david_> I leave my computer for 1 hour and it doesn't hibernate and the monitor turns off, I have to unplug it then plug in back in for it to work again, can someone help me?
[03:43] <void^> Daveyboy: yes
[03:43] <] GoldenDragon> hmm, anyone know if its possible to save states in VisualBoyAdvance on Ubuntu? using either VBA Express or Gnomeboy
[03:43] <eobanb> BIAF, negative, i'm positive samba is not installed by default
[03:43] <majd_> BIAF, i did what you told me to do and it worked: i can view the files on my mac on my ubuntu. But what i need to do is do that opposite
[03:43] <badrinarayan> eobanb, yeah osx handles samba - I only said that because it is nice to see ubuntu "discovered" by  his mac when he brings it to hime n/w ;)
[03:43] <majd_> i need to see on my mac, the files on my ubuntu
[03:43] <Daveyboy> void^, so why doesi t give the choice of oem?
[03:44] <majd_> dreampark
[03:44] <majd_> heh
[03:44] <majd_> wrong channel
[03:44] <BIAF> :)
[03:44] <eobanb> majd_, if you go to System > Administration > Shared Folders it will prompt you to install samba
[03:45] <BIAF> but when he just right mouse#s on a folder it will provoke the dialog to install samba
[03:45] <void^> Daveyboy: eh, oem = original equipment manufacturer. i don't know what it does in this case, doesn't say anything about the gui anyways
[03:45] <majd_> samba seems to be installed through synaptic
[03:45] <BIAF> after clicking share
[03:45] <badrinarayan> majd_ : finally go to finder, type apple-k (connect to server) and then simply connect to the ubuntu share you created
[03:47] <Daveyboy> what is the difference between kde and kubuntu-desktop?
[03:47] <McScruff> is there a way to stop ubiquity from installing a bootloader
[03:47] <McScruff> Daveyboy, the apps that come with it, kde ships just with kde, but kubuntu will give you apps that the kubuntu team packaged with it
[03:47] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: its kde with ubuntu's spin on it
[03:47] <eobanb> Daveyboy, kubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that includes kde and its libraries
[03:48] <james_xxx> in trying to configure a PC to access the printer connected to another PC, when it askes for thehost of the remote IPP server, what am i supposed to enter?
[03:48] <Daveyboy> but kde comes with the ubuntu install though, right?
[03:48] <eobanb> Daveyboy, no.
[03:48] <__mikem> kubuntu doesn't do kde justice, you should see how great kde could look if they tried, has anyone here ever used linspire before?
[03:48] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: no
[03:48] <q_a_z_steve> What's an easy but secure Pop3 and SMTP mail server I can run on ubuntu?
[03:48] <eobanb> Daveyboy, an ubuntu install comes with gnome, not kde.
[03:48] <Daveyboy> kewl
[03:48] <pike_> Daveyboy: you would need server install then apt-get kubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <DShepherd> eobanb depends on what cd you use though
[03:48] <eobanb> pike_, or he could just get the kubuntu iso..
[03:48] <pike_> eobanb: bah
[03:49] <adcuritn> does anybody here know anyting about installing ubuntu on sparc machine
[03:49] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: u could get the kubuntu iso you like
[03:49] <yallaman> eobanb: just do: ./tremulous.run ?
[03:49] <eobanb> yallaman, indeed
[03:49] <yallaman> kk
[03:49] <DShepherd> Daveyboy: that comes with kde by defualt..
[03:49] <eobanb> yallaman, you can even double-click it from nautilus
[03:49] <yallaman> ah
[03:49] <Daveyboy> DShepherd, yah i think thats what i have
[03:49] <DShepherd> yallaman: you trying out that gaim??
[03:49] <DShepherd> game(
[03:49] <DShepherd> gaim = game*
[03:49] <pike_> Daveyboy: the problem is with your system specs both gnome and kde are going to be a little frustrating
[03:49] <yallaman> 1 min to download is done
[03:50] <adcuritn> does anybody here know anyting about installing ubuntu on sparc machine??
[03:50] <pike_> Daveyboy: but still usable probably
[03:50] <q_a_z_steve> !sparc
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about sparc
[03:50] <DShepherd> yallaman: tell me what you think of it.. is it just for multiplayer environment though?
[03:50] <yallaman> seems kinda good looking to be so small size
[03:50] <majd_> badrinarayan, when i go to Finder>Network>Mshome>Majd-Ubuntu>Connect....it prompts me for Domain, Username, and password. for Domain, i put MSHOME because in ubuntu when i go to Shared Folders Settings and click properties on the folder i'm sharing, and click on General Windows Sharing settings, that's what it says the domain is
[03:50] <wastrel> someone was in here a few days ago saying they were running on a sparc
[03:50] <__mikem> I tried to run gnome and kde side by side on breezy. THough it works, on ubuntu it gets messy
[03:50] <eobanb> adcuritn, as far as i know the sparc port is in the works, but not ready yet
[03:50] <Daveyboy> pike_, yah i had kde before on it semed alright ,im mainly just going to conect thru ssh anyway via putty
[03:50] <majd_> for username, i use majd-home because that's what i put for the name under share properties
[03:50] <DShepherd> yallaman: it is good looking..
[03:50] <yallaman> i dunno if its just for mp yet:P
[03:51] <james_xxx> __mikem: i could not disagree with you more. kubuntu is awesome
[03:51] <majd_> and for password, i tried my root password
[03:51] <adcuritn> eobanb there is a server edition of ubuntu out for sparc
[03:51] <DShepherd> yallaman: ok
[03:51] <q_a_z_steve> What's an easy to configure but secure Pop3 and SMTP mail server I can run on ubuntu?
[03:51] <__mikem> james_xxx I didn't say it wasn't, I was just saying running gnome alongside kde gets messy
[03:51] <james_xxx> i see
[03:51] <majd_> after i click Connect, i get the following error: The alias "Majd-Ubuntu" could not be opened, because the original item cannot be found
[03:51] <Daveyboy> how much memory does kde and gnome generally use?
[03:52] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  postfix i think is the standard for smtp.  dovecot for pop3 (i only use imap tho)
[03:52] <eobanb> Daveyboy, around 128 MB.
[03:52] <eobanb> Daveyboy, but you'll want extra to run applications
[03:52] <pike_> Daveyboy: you might give xubuntu a spin its my main desktop i very much prefer it to gnome or kde
[03:52] <q_a_z_steve> adcuritn, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/releasenotes/606?highlight=%28sparc%29
[03:52] <majd_> pike_, same here
[03:52] <yallaman> lol..nautilus..opens it in gedit..
[03:52] <majd_> i love xfce...much less memory usage than gnome] 
[03:53] <Daveyboy> yeah xubuntu is okay, i mainly want to be a command line guru
[03:53] <__mikem> pike_ I love xfce, but the latest version is a bit unstable
[03:53] <eobanb> yallaman, uh i guess you do need to run it from the command line then
[03:53] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, what's the big difference?
[03:53] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  between pop3 and imap?
[03:54] <q_a_z_steve> server size and things?
[03:54] <pike_> __mikem: only thing i miss is the old thunar.  i havent really had any problems yet
[03:55] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, as far as the server and security/access restriction and so on.
[03:55] <Daveyboy> pike_, how much memory doe xubuntu use?
[03:55] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, do you use dovecot for imap?
[03:55] <majd_> do i wanna use a WINS server?
[03:56] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, if one's available...
[03:56] <patch> how can I configure de volume control on my dell keyboard !
[03:56] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  yes but only for my local network - i'm not running any internet services.  it does have ssl support though.
[03:56] <q_a_z_steve> cool.
[03:57] <majd_> q_a_z_steve, what's WINS server?
[03:57] <pike_> Daveyboy: im dont have any numbers but you would definately notice a difference with 256mb of ram
[03:57] <majd_> i don't know if it is or not
[03:58] <r3dhat> does anyone know how i can install in expert mode?
[03:58] <Daveyboy> so if i use the server install, does it pre load openssh, apache2, mysql-server
[03:58] <q_a_z_steve> !WINS
[03:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about WINS
[03:58] <wastrel> wins is a microsoft network protocol
[03:58] <__mikem> r3dhat if you don't know how to use expert mode, chances are, you are not an expert and have no need to use expert mode
[03:58] <wastrel> totally unused for internet connections, or tcp/ip networks in general afaik
[03:58] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, it's only necessary if you want outlook or things like that to work at optimum.
[03:58] <pike_> Daveyboy: actually all installs are base desktop installs you would have to apt-get install openssh-server etc
[03:58] <r3dhat> i need to make a boot disk in expert install i just cant seem to find it...?
[03:59] <pike_> Daveyboy: unless something has changed with dapper
[03:59] <Daveyboy> pike_, so the server install is different from the desktop install , how?
[03:59] <__mikem> server install doesn't install gui
[04:00] <q_a_z_steve> wastrel, would it be accurate to say linux:DNS :: windows:WINS ?
[04:00] <q_a_z_steve> majd_, http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/W/WINS.html
[04:00] <pike_> Daveyboy: and regular install will install alot of stuff you dont need and dont want running
[04:00] <r3dhat> how do i get to expert install?
[04:00] <wastrel> q_a_z_steve:  i actually know very little about microsoft networking, just enough to know that wins is irrelevant to internet :] 
[04:01] <patch>  how can I configure my multimedia keyboard, the button rool or vulume up or down doesn't works for me !
[04:01] <Daveyboy> pike_, so server install is the same as desktop minus the wm?
[04:01] <__mikem> the thing about "expert" install is, if you use it, it is implied taht you are an "expert" and know what you are doing.
[04:01] <r3dhat> ... i know... i just cant find it
[04:02] <__mikem> sorry, I just love the irony in that. lmao
[04:02] <r3dhat> i know
[04:02] <r3dhat> however
[04:02] <pike_> Daveyboy: and openoffice and alot of other stuff. think of it more as base install without any of the frills
[04:02] <r3dhat> i need to install this please
[04:02] <Daveyboy> ole william wallace is kicking ass on spiketv
[04:02] <Daveyboy> pike_, kewl
[04:03] <Patrick__> hey all, is it possible to download files that you would normally get through apt-get at a certain website?
[04:03] <jasonm_> what app is best for connecting to soulseek under ubuntu
[04:03] <hackel> r3dhat:  did you bother looking online or reading the manual in all your expert wisdom?
[04:04] <pike_> Patrick__: you can download the .deb files
[04:04] <hawkaloogie> jasonm_, nicotine is widely used, but it's not been updated in a while
[04:04] <__mikem> hackel, so you think its ironic that he is "asking" how to use the "expert" install
[04:04] <hackel> Patrick__:  Yeah just look at the site you're getting it from. :-P  (probably http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/)
[04:04] <yallaman> tremulous ..seemed like a nice game..very fast..only MP btw
[04:04] <hackel> __mikem:  Yes I was agreeing with you. :P
[04:04] <james_xxx> are there any experts on setting up a print server in here? i am trying to set up a home network with one PC being used as the print server, and i am having no luck
[04:05] <Patrick__> pike_ srry to say but that was kind of a useless answer :(
[04:05] <Daveyboy> ubuntu is a kickass OS..
[04:05] <__mikem> ;) lol
[04:05] <yallaman> notthing beats Anarchy-online on cedega tho
[04:05] <pike_> :'-(
[04:05] <yallaman> :p
[04:05] <__mikem> Daveboy, is kickass a good thing or a bad thing?
[04:05] <Patrick__> hackel, its not very user friendly
[04:05] <Patrick__> hackel, I remember there being a site dedicated to such thing
[04:05] <r3dhat> can someone please just tell me, i know i'm just missing something stupid
[04:05] <Patrick__> hackel, but I forgot :(
[04:05] <__mikem> R T F M !
[04:05] <Daveyboy> wish I could afford to buy  a real computer to see her really fly..
[04:05] <patch> ubuntu don't detecd my button of volume control... how can I configure that ?
[04:06] <Rolo> #ubuntu-eskernel panic: VFS unable mount root fs on 08:02
[04:06] <Rolo> ?
[04:06] <__mikem> Daveyboy I just have to say, I love my new 3ghz AMD64 computer
[04:07] <Patrick__> __mikem, thats one fast ass processor
[04:07] <mnvl> does ubuntu really come w/o mp3 codecs?
[04:07] <Patrick__> is it duel core?
[04:07] <Patrick__> mnvl yes
[04:07] <__mikem> Patrick__ yup, and its all mine, lol
[04:08] <Patrick__> mnvl, thats what programs like Automatix and Easyubuntu are for.
[04:08] <Patrick__> __mikem omfg seriously!?!? dual core 3GHZ?!
[04:08] <mnvl> i jsut installed mpg321 and now gnome can preview mp3s on mouseover
[04:08] <squiggly> i should've expected linux users to be amd fanboys
[04:08] <Patrick__> __mikem, thats fucking equal ti 6.0Ghz
[04:08] <__mikem> Oh, NOt the duel core one
[04:08] <hackel> Patrick__:  I'm not aware of it.  I mean, packages.ubuntu.com will give you info and links to download individual packages, or apt-get.org will search other repositories.
[04:08] <Daveyboy> __mikem, i hear ya... 3ghz is a horse
[04:08] <Trae> can someone check my sources.list please:  pastebin.ca/71725
[04:08] <Patrick__> hackel, thanks
[04:08] <mnvl> but neither totem nor rhythmbox can play them (!?)
[04:08] <Trae> I can't seem to get w32codecs to install
[04:08] <r3dhat> where is expert install?
[04:09] <__mikem> :-)
[04:09] <mnvl> can i get another player or what?
[04:09] <__mikem> r3dhat RTFM
[04:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell Trae about w32codecs
[04:09] <Lord-ChewY> is it possible to use MS DirectX with wine
[04:09] <r3dhat> rgr
[04:09] <__mikem> rgr?
[04:09] <Lord-ChewY> the actual MS files
[04:09] <mnvl> or another decoder?
[04:09] <jrib> ubotu: tell mnvl about mp3
[04:09] <Trae> jrib heh, I should be able to just apt-get install w32codecs right?
[04:10] <jrib> Trae: nope
[04:10] <Trae> jrib not even with multiverse and universe enabled?
[04:10] <hackel> r3dhat:  I'm pretty sure you just type "expert" when you boot the CD.
[04:10] <jrib> Trae: correct, the wiki explains how you have to get them
[04:10] <__mikem> hackel, a guy calls tech support and says, hey it tells me to click ok, what do I do?
[04:11] <Trae> jrib odd... I don't see mention of Seveas packages on the wiki
[04:11] <r3dhat> hackel, i tried that, no dice
[04:11] <jrib> Trae: there is a direct link to a .deb there though
[04:11] <Rolo> help
[04:11] <Rolo> kernel panic: VFS unable mount root fs on 08:02
[04:11] <Dial_tone> are all these /dev/vmnet* entries part of the OS or were they all added by installing vmware? translation - can i delete them when i remove vmware player
[04:11] <__mikem> Rolo try running fsck
[04:12] <hackel> r3dhat:  Might have changed with dapper release, but I assume it's in the docs somewhere.
[04:12] <Trae> jrib ok... I"m sorry, the old way had you wehre you could apt-get install it I thought.
[04:12] <Trae> I could be just mis-thinking too
[04:12] <r3dhat> hackel: yea... i really didnt look through it before... =(
[04:12] <Trae> jrib do my sources.list look good ?
[04:12] <jrib> Trae: ok, the factoid was changed :)  It used to point to the restricted formats wiki, but the desktopguide probably has directions.  You can apt-get install if you use seveas' repos too
[04:12] <Rolo> kernel i686-smp for pentium d 820
[04:13] <pike_> Trae: http://pastebin.ca/71730
[04:13] <__mikem> Darnit, doesn't anyone read the manuel before comming here anymore
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> anyone know?
[04:13] <Rolo> espaol?
[04:13] <jrib> Trae: where are they?
[04:13] <jrib> !es
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> id like to use the standard DX9c dll files
[04:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:13] <Lord-ChewY> seems that would work better than hacked ones
[04:13] <squiggly> someone buy me the X2 4600
[04:13] <squiggly> my machine hungers for some real horsepower
[04:14] <wastrel> what's that
[04:14] <__mikem> squiggly noone here is going to buy you anything
[04:14] <squiggly> beefy processor that i need for video encoding
[04:14] <Trae> pastebin.ca/71725 jrib
[04:14] <Lord-ChewY> squiggly ill buy you one but you got to "work" for it
[04:15] <Lord-ChewY> and by work i mean sexual
[04:15] <yallaman> is there any font packages that i can download for ubuntu? for use in console..
[04:15] <DShepherd> :-O
[04:15] <__mikem> Lord-ChewY don't encourage a chatroom trool, and please keep it appropiate
[04:15] <squiggly> do i get union rights
[04:15] <r3dhat> not finding anything...
[04:15] <__mikem> *troll
[04:15] <Lord-ChewY> you get 0 rights
[04:16] <squiggly> well fu
[04:16] <__mikem> !ops
[04:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[04:16] <Lord-ChewY> no computer either
[04:16] <jrib> Trae: yep they look fine, just add in seveas repos if you want to be able to apt-get install
[04:16] <jrib> (w32codecs)
[04:16] <jturek> hi guys
[04:16] <jturek> i get soudnd on my GDM screen
[04:16] <HedgeMage> __mikem: what's up?
[04:16] <roostishaw> where can i find a good tutorial covering how to use zenity with bash?
[04:16] <jturek> but when i get into Gnome
[04:16] <jturek> i don't have sound
[04:16] <jturek> the Volume Manager won't open
[04:16] <__mikem> HedgeMage theres a trool
[04:17] <Trae> jrib k, tx bunches
[04:17] <__mikem> And someone talking about trading sex for a new microprocessor
[04:17] <Healot> roostishaw: I say zenity examples at Sun's website
[04:17] <__mikem> and they are fighting
[04:17] <jrib> Trae: and here is the link if you just want the deb: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[04:17] <HedgeMage> Mika_i: it helps if you give me nicks so I can lastlog... I have 41 chans open
[04:17] <HedgeMage> __mikem: ^^^
[04:17] <digivore> hi, question, what other version of linux is ubuntu most like, or based on?
[04:17] <hackel> r3dhat:  Make sure you're using the "alternate" install CD.
[04:17] <roostishaw> Healot, ok, ill check it out, thanks mate
[04:17] <__mikem> Lord-ChewY, squiggly
[04:18] <hackel> digivore:  Debian. :-P
[04:18] <lecaros> digivore: based on debian
[04:18] <r3dhat> hackel: "alternate" install CD?
[04:18] <digivore> great thanks
[04:18] <hackel> r3dhat:  Yes, which is the same as the old install CD.  Not the live CD.
[04:18] <r3dhat> BAH!!!!!!!!!!
[04:19] <r3dhat> that explains alot
[04:19] <__mikem> HedgeMage Lord-CHewY and squiggly
[04:19] <hackel> r3dhat:  That's where the expert install went to.  From that point on, I'll assume you're still an expert and can figure it out. :P
[04:19] <yeft> anyone here use rockbox?
[04:19] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[04:19] <r3dhat> thank you, i <3 you
[04:19] <Lord-ChewY> yo
[04:19] <hackel> (but I admit, it took me a minute to figure that out, too.)
[04:20] <__mikem> wow, this chatroom is kinky tonight
[04:20] <Dial_tone> are all these /dev/vmnet* entries part of the OS or were they all added by installing vmware? translation - can i delete them when i remove vmware player
[04:20] <Lord-ChewY> i hope cedega works better than dx9wine
[04:21] <HellDragon> /clear
[04:21] <yeft> anyone get ipod to work in amaroK?
[04:22] <Shigun> Anybody here have experience with SPDIF issue, that they think they could help me with?
[04:22] <bimberi> wow, freenode staff party?
[04:22] <__mikem> HedgeMage, in retrospect maybe it was a bit hastey to call in the ops, but it really did look like they were about to fight?
[04:24] <bimberi> __mikem: i thought you were a bit hasty but it probably did prevent things escalating :)
[04:24] <repairmn> is there a package to install LimeWire?
[04:24] <HedgeMage> __mikem: np, it happens, and bimberi is probably right
[04:24] <__mikem> :)
[04:24] <Shigun> o.O Anybody at all?  Or just a generalized question in the hopes of some support or guidance in the right direction
[04:24] <bimberi> HedgeMage: wow, that's first ;P
[04:24] <bimberi> *a first
[04:25] <__mikem> ubotu tell SHigun about ask
[04:25] <skavenge> frostwire!
[04:25] <__mikem> skavenge what about frostwire
[04:25] <Shigun> k then.  My SPDIF just stopped working.  I thought it might be due to a kernel upgrade, but upon reverting back to my previous kernel version, it still didnt work.  I cannot think of anything it could possibly be
[04:26] <Shigun> This is on an intel8x0 module (Nvidia NForce4 on a DFI Lanparty Ultra-D)
[04:26] <skavenge> somebody was asking about limewire .. anyway anyone had problems with frostwire locking up when its starting? its happened like three times to me and frozen my x session
[04:26] <__mikem> not sure what SPDIF is, but reinstalling it should fix it right up
[04:26] <crimsun> Shigun: amixer output, please, pastebinned.
[04:26] <Shigun> __mikem: SPDIF is a form of audio output
[04:27] <__mikem> Shigun, do you know what package it comes in?
[04:27] <Healot> __mikem: digital output
[04:27] <socket7> how do i make a program run on boot? Just before X starts?
[04:27] <Shigun> __mikem: Its not a package, its a hardware feature
[04:27] <__mikem> There should be a driver for it though?
[04:27] <__mikem> THe soundcard I mean
[04:27] <__mikem> TRy reinstalling the soundcard drivers
[04:28] <yoshiznit123> hey, is there a way to see how much space an installed package takes?
[04:28] <Shigun> __mikem: That would be the alsa drivers, or I guess in this case specifically, intel8x0 alsa drivers.  However, my second soundcard itself is working fine
[04:28] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16496
[04:28] <__mikem> Thats strange.
[04:29] <__mikem> crimsun, what happened last night, I was kicked from the server at around 12:00 AM and I couldn't log back on
[04:29] <skavenge> Looking to disable tap-to-click on an alps touchpad in dapper, at the very least make it less sensitive anyone know?
[04:29] <nemik> hello, not sure why, but I just cannot get sound to work on my onboard via 8235 card.
[04:30] <crimsun> Shigun: ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[04:30] <nemik> it was fine on breezy before i wiped everything and put on dapper
[04:30] <crimsun> nemik: pastebin ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[04:31] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, you'll have to change settings in xorg.conf unless you have shm enabled
[04:31] <KBlair> Hello, I'm new to ubuntu and Linux in general. I want to have a Windows XP/Ubuntu on my next computer I build. Problem is that I don't know if ASRock 939NF5G-SATA2 can support linux. Does anybody have any success stories with tihs board?
[04:31] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16498
[04:31] <skavenge> yoshiznit123 ; shm?
[04:31] <nemik> crimsun: just says no such file/directory
[04:32] <__mikem> KBlair, I don't believe the motherboard has anything to do with OS support.
[04:32] <Shigun> crimsun: apologies, I missed the wildcard at the end
[04:32] <bimberi> yoshiznit123: apt-cache show <package> | grep Installed
[04:32] <crimsun> nemik: then I need ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer'' pastebinned
[04:32] <__mikem> KBlair, also, if you do run into any problems, a bios upgrade should fix them
[04:32] <KBlair> Ok, thanks.
[04:33] <realcoolguy> is there a good way to tell which video "driver" i'm running?
[04:33] <yoshiznit123> bimberi, thanks
[04:33] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, look in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf for 'synaptics'
[04:33] <bimberi> yoshiznit123: yw
[04:33] <Shigun> Crimsun: Actually, there is no change with the wildcard
[04:33] <nemik> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/71744
[04:34] <lecaros> crimsun: btw, i haven't those files
[04:34] <crimsun> nemik: try muting 'External Amplifier'
[04:35] <crimsun> lecaros: you won't unless you use asoundconf directly or change the default sound device using System> Preferences> Sound
[04:35] <durt> when i try to play a file in audacious, cpu usage goes up to 100%, and the song plays very slowly and choppily. anyone know whats wrong?
[04:35] <__mikem> TRy a different player
[04:36] <skavenge> yoshiznit123 ; found it, doesn't say much
[04:36] <nemik> crimsun: just muted it; and nothing
[04:36] <__mikem> its a case of, a guy walks into a doctors office and says, "hey dock, it hurts when I do this." Doc says, "then don't do it"
[04:36] <durt> heh, yeah other stuff works, but i was just wondering if anyone else had troubles with audacious
[04:37] <crimsun> Shigun: what's the output from ``iecset''?
[04:37] <__mikem> durt, you could try reinstalling audacios, if that doesn't work, just ditch it
[04:37] <crimsun> nemik: try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[04:38] <crimsun> nemik: if 1 doesn't work, try 2, then 3
[04:38] <n8bounds> Good people of #ubuntu, Has anyone found a good ubuntu/debian analouge to the win32 only DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter?
[04:39] <skavenge> sound wizard
[04:39] <yoshiznit123> skavenge, you can put a bunch of configurations there, the easiest is probably SHMConfig "true", and you can configure without restarting your x server
[04:39] <Shigun> crimsun: Several errors.  Give me a sec, I will pastebin them
[04:39] <Healot> n8bounds: DVD ripping is illegal, we shouldn't suggest you about that :-0
[04:39] <heman> what's the best way to install tor on utuntu?
[04:39] <Shigun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16499
[04:40] <crimsun> heman: from tor.eff.org
[04:40] <Healot> using the repos, heman
[04:40] <Shigun> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16499
[04:40] <n8bounds> hmm
[04:40] <crimsun> heman: tor is one of the few exceptions where the versions in the repo are known to be not recommended.
[04:40] <woodwizzle> What happened to the command line panel applet?
[04:40] <Healot> the latest release of Tor is recommended
[04:40] <wastrel> woodwizzle:  they retired it and replaced it with deskbar applet
[04:41] <woodwizzle> wastrel oh the deskbar applet can run programs too? sweet
[04:41] <Dragonfyre13> anybody have experience with apache2 vhosts?
[04:41] <Dragonfyre13> anybody have experience with apache2 at all?
[04:41] <__mikem> I am getting too tired to think. I am going to bed
[04:41] <Healot> n8bounds: btw, there are some out there, libdvdcss2 is the core for DVD ripping...
[04:41] <socket7> How do I add a script to init.d so it runs just before X starts?
[04:42] <Shigun> crimsun: I copied my asound.conf to the file being pointed to by my .asoundrc, and ran iecset again.  This time, it just returned: snd_ctl_open: Invalid argument
[04:42] <heman> crimsun: i'm guessing i should download the debian version
[04:42] <crimsun> Shigun: and the contents of /proc/asound/cards ?
[04:42] <crimsun> heman: if there's no Ubuntu-specific one, sure
[04:42] <Dragonfyre13> Hi Rob
[04:43] <nemik> crimsun: none of those worked...i may try to put my BIOS to default in case something relating to sound changed there...
[04:43] <nemik> crimsun: btw thank you very much anyway for helping
[04:43] <Shigun> crumsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16500
[04:44] <crimsun> nemik: uname -r
[04:44] <Dragonfyre13> Can anyone hear me when I speak? No experience with IRC before really.
[04:44] <n8bounds> yes, Dragonfyre13
[04:44] <nemik> crimsun: 2.6.15-25-386
[04:44] <Dragonfyre13> n8bounds: thank you
[04:44] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: I can't hear you talking, but I can see what you type
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: Gee, thanks. I guess I would have to use Ekigia for that.
[04:45] <Rug> yupp
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> ^_^
[04:45] <crimsun> Shigun: are you intending to use the crippled live or the nvidia?
[04:45] <Dragonfyre13> Hey Twilli
[04:45] <iamelite> How do i open Split RAR archives. IE: r00, r01, r02 = ABC.exe
[04:45] <Rug> iamelite: you want to extract the whole thing?
[04:45] <twilli> Hey, whats happening
[04:45] <iamelite> rug yes
[04:46] <Rug> imbrandon: rar x file.rar
[04:46] <Dragonfyre13> "unrar Filename.r00"
[04:46] <Shigun> crimsun: The Nvidia has SPDIF, which is what I always output my sound to, except for a few VoIP programs, wehre I used the live.  However, the Nvidia SPDIF no longer works.  The live itself still does though.
[04:46] <imbrandon> Rug, ???
[04:46] <heman> Which version of Debian is ubuntu most like.  Sarge?  Etch?
[04:46] <Rug> or *.r00
[04:46] <iamelite> How do i know if i have unrar
[04:46] <mgi> hey.. anyone have much experience with dvb-t and dapper?
[04:46] <imbrandon> Rug, you mean iamelite
[04:46] <imbrandon> ;)
[04:46] <Rug> sorry
[04:46] <spikeb> heman: probably etch at the moment
[04:46] <imbrandon> np ;)
[04:46] <Shigun> crimsun:  The live outputs through analog, while the nvidia has analog and spdif.  afaik, neither work on the nvidia
[04:46] <crimsun> Shigun: can you backup (and remove) /etc/asound.conf and ~/.asoundrc* ?
[04:47] <Rug> iamelite: sorry.....    type this in a term window:   rar -h
[04:47] <Shigun> crimsun: Give me just a sec, and I will remove and test that
[04:47] <Dragonfyre13> apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:47] <ether> alrighty anyone else had problems with the desktop cd seeming freezeing after unpacking the kernel?
[04:47] <babywalks> does anybody know how to configure a usb keyboard? i simply cannot get it work with my  usb mouse.
[04:47] <n8bounds> seeming freezeing?
[04:47] <iamelite> rar -h     Command not found
[04:47] <ether> seemingly
[04:47] <Rug> iamelite: you need to install rar/unrar
[04:48] <Dragonfyre13> see my post
[04:48] <n8bounds> you sure the optical drive in question is in good health?
[04:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can somone tell me how to install the lame headers and codec?  i want to do that before compiling kaffeine
[04:48] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: see my post
[04:48] <Shigun> crimsun: No change
[04:48] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Package unrar-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:48] <ether> i am rather sure it is, it's brand new
[04:48] <Shigun> crimsun: However, the output of iecset shows something now
[04:48] <SAM_theman> hello people its me!!
[04:49] <n8bounds> hmm
[04:49] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: activate multiverse and universe repos
[04:49] <skavenge> just open synaptic and search for rar
[04:49] <mgi> so no one has any idea about dvb-t cards?
[04:49] <crimsun> Shigun: good. pastebin, please?
[04:49] <n8bounds> do you have DMA on?
[04:49] <ether> it was doing the same thing with the cd drive before
[04:49] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16501
[04:49] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, how?
[04:49] <ether> i'm not familar with DMA
[04:49] <n8bounds> direct memory access
[04:50] <n8bounds> easiest way with Breezy or Dapper is AUTOMATIX
[04:50] <ether> cmos option?
[04:50] <Healot> !dma
[04:50] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[04:50] <spikeb> BAH
[04:50] <Rug> ether: hpparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[04:50] <Rug> ack
[04:50] <wastrel> don't break your drive
[04:50] <Rug> hdparm
[04:50] <Dragonfyre13> "iamelite: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the things it tells you to.
[04:50] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list" and uncomment the things it tells you to.
[04:50] <wastrel> i killed a disk with hdparm once ;] 
[04:50] <Rug> wastrel: really?
[04:50] <n8bounds> yeah, really?
[04:51] <d00by> does anybody know how to read the tags from a mp3 using either gambas or a shell utility?
[04:51] <spikeb> !automatix
[04:51] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[04:51] <wastrel> yeah really.  not the physical disk of course but the filesystem
[04:51] <Rug> wastrel: of course....
[04:51] <SpecialCore> hello, when I type "make", the system replies "bash: make: command not found", what shall I do when I can compile files?
[04:52] <Rug> wastrel: I was thinking:  nothing a low-level format can't cure
[04:52] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: Yup. There's a walkthrough here. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[04:52] <Shigun> crimsun: I have confirmed that analog on the nvidia *is* working
[04:52] <Dragonfyre13> SpecialCore: apt-get install build-essential
[04:52] <Rug> SpecialCore: what program are you trying to install AND have you checked to see if it's in the repos first?
[04:52] <elkbuntu> SpecialCore, you probably need to install the build-essential package. so sudo apt-get build-essential
[04:52] <Amaranth> !compiling > SpecialCore
[04:53] <Shigun> crimsun: SPDIF itself though, still does not
[04:53] <roostishaw> in the zenity man page, where it talks about text input... and says its saved to 'standard output', how would I assign the input of the user to a variable?
[04:53] <Dragonfyre13> anyone feel like helping me with my apache2 problems?
[04:53] <iamelite> All this for one file
[04:53] <cArNaGe`> !weather binghamton
[04:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about weather binghamton
[04:53] <SpecialCore> ok, I'll try it. I just installing libgpg-error0. thanks
[04:53] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: nah, I've used it for a bunch.
[04:53] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, depends. explain your apache2 problem first.
[04:54] <Dragonfyre13> elkubuntu: I have a working apache setup, but I need it to use virtualhosts, since now I will be hosting two sites. for some reason, whenever I set them up, it just goes to the /var/www directory.
[04:55] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, which of theese is the walk througg for what im doing
[04:55] <woodwizzle> I'm learning python, I'm curious as to what tools other ubunteros use to program python.
[04:55] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, im not sure how to do that either, but since it's an apache2 thing, try joining the apache channel here on freenode and ask there, they'll know for sure
[04:55] <SAM_theman> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16502
[04:56] <judah> Dragonfyre13: so you have a unique DocumentRoot set for your virtual hosts?
[04:56] <ether> hmm, well the desktop cd goes blah "upacking kernel" then it goes to the bootsplash all mounting filesystem stuffs then it seems to crash and goes back to the vanilla console. no hd or cd activity. Does that sound like a hdpram issue?
[04:56] <SAM_theman> Can somone take a look at that please?
[04:56] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[04:56] <SAM_theman> !vmware
[04:56] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:56] <Dragonfyre13> judah: yep.
[04:56] <woodwizzle> crap my xorg died
[04:57] <judah> do you like less -f /my/fancy/apache/log.log when you restart the service.
[04:57] <crimsun> Shigun: how are you testing the optical out?
[04:57] <judah> to see if like it gives you some klue?
[04:57] <Rug> After doing a fresh install of dapper I can't get twinview to work, but if I upgrade from breezy works fine.  any ideas?
[04:57] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: besides, I activate the other repos on nearly all the systems I install.
[04:58] <nothingman> hi, all
[04:58] <adicts> hey
[04:58] <nothingman> haven't gotten a graphical login since I upgraded to Dapper
[04:58] <Healot> woodwizzle: I am IDLE(ing) and eaten by Boa :)
[04:58] <Shigun> crimsun: I have a digital audio decoder that I hooks up to a surround sound system.  It connects in through the SPDIF interface
[04:58] <nosklo> nothingman, video card?
[04:58] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: likely, dapper doesn't install the drivers correctly. Breezy does, and Dapper doesn't mess with them during the upgrade.
[04:59] <elkbuntu> Dragonfyre13, i think your best bet is to ask in #apache
[04:59] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: odd thing though, OpenGL (Direct rendering) was install correctly.
[04:59] <crimsun> Shigun: right, are you using mplayer (w/ its parameters, see its man page) to test the output?
[04:59] <adicts> i just started using linux and i needed to install an nvidia driver , but when i try to install it in the terminal it says needs to be run as root can someone help me?
[04:59] <woodwizzle> Healot, what do you do most of your python in? I noticed that gedit comes with a python console too.
[04:59] <adicts> ive tried $sudo dpkg
[04:59] <Dragonfyre13> Thanks elkubuntu. I'll try there once I finish with iamelite's problem.
[04:59] <Healot> woodwizzle: IDLE(ing) is good
[05:00] <Dragonfyre13> Rug: that's really wierd.
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, are you using ubuntu?
[05:00] <Tmob> anyone use conky + xfce?
[05:00] <Rug> Dragonfyre13: yeah I know!
[05:00] <adicts> yeah
[05:00] <Tmob> i can't get it to draw properly on double buffering
[05:00] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, yeah im reading it. saying i can do it in X
[05:00] <Tmob> and it flickers with single
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, then just install the linux-restricted package using sypnaptic
[05:00] <nothingman> Xinerama: intel integrated and two Diamond Stealth 3D 2000's
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, and nvidia-glx
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, that should be enough
[05:00] <Rug> nothingman: ouch, time for an upgrade
[05:00] <adicts> ok thanks alot
[05:00] <nosklo> adicts, you dont need additional drivers
[05:00] <adicts> ok
[05:00] <Shigun> crimsun: I have tested several things.  The gnome sound properties (play the sound you hear at login), amarok (set to 'default' for the audio device, as was per my asound.conf), and xmms (set to hw:0,2, to specify the spdif output of the nvidia).  None of them work.
[05:00] <nothingman> OK, so now that I commented out the S3's it works with just the intel
[05:00] <adicts> thank you
[05:01] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yup. That's the newbie friendly way. heheheh, CLI goodness though.
[05:01] <Migit03> I just compiled some of my own C code (in 64 bit Ubuntu) using gcc but I can only get it to run by doing /Desktop/main I can't go to the desktop and just type main.o. Any ideas why?
[05:01] <crimsun> Shigun: generally speaking you would want to use plug:iec958 instead of a hardcoded hw:0,2
[05:01] <nothingman> Rug: it will make a nice programming rig; 1.2Ghz Celeron vs the 400Mhz Athlon that it replaced
[05:01] <nothingman> plus it houses my mythbacked
[05:01] <Dragonfyre13> iameite: if you have any more problems, just ask the room. I'm going to #apache
[05:01] <Shigun> crimsun: I have always used hw:0,2, but let me test the plug real quick
[05:01] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Well when it comes to computers, i dont mind the hard way. But ill always find the easiest one. They say its the thinking of a true mathematician
[05:01] <nothingman> *mythbackend*
[05:01] <Rug> nothingman: It's great for a lot of things.  GUI isn't on the list though!  =)
[05:02] <hyphenated> Migit03: because 'named' commands are looked up in your PATH environment variable
[05:02] <Shigun> crimsun: Doesnt work either
[05:02] <nothingman> Rug: as long as it plays video and gives me a wide-ass desktop, I'm OK with it
[05:02] <Rug> Enjoy!
[05:02] <DrKevorkian> i can't get flash player in firefox to work on ubuntu, i had no problems in windows xp (i'm dual booting) but it never seems to work correctly on linux
[05:02] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, anyways. backpots opened, where do i go about it now
[05:02] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yup. Same here, but CLI is normally more powerful, and thus easier when you get used to it. nano is your friend if you get stuck there.
[05:02] <Shigun> crimsun: Is there a way to reinstall or rebuild the audio modules?
[05:02] <bruenig> drkevorkian, what have you tried?
[05:02] <crimsun> Shigun: wouldn't help
[05:03] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: just do "sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree"
[05:03] <Shigun> crimsun: Recommendation on what to do next?
[05:03] <crimsun> Shigun: do I still have your current amixer output on pastebin?
[05:03] <JMO> Hi there
[05:03] <crimsun> Shigun: sorry, url please
[05:03] <Rug> JMO: howdy
[05:04] <JMO> Im sorry for this interrumption, can someone give me a hand with an apt-get problem?
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig, i've tried installing the linux version from the website and it installed
[05:04] <Rug> JMO: just ask!
[05:04] <nothingman> nosklo: did you read my messages?
[05:04] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, or... Synaptic... unrar... mark?
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: but it rarely ever works and never plays audio
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: once that is done, just do "unrar e file.r00" where file.r00 is the first of the series of rar files you want to unpack.
[05:04] <bruenig> drkevorkian, the easiest way to do is through apt-get, have you tried that?
[05:04] <nosklo> nothingman, yes, but unfortunately i have no experience with this video card
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: yep, that works too.
[05:04] <d00by> does anybody know how to read the tags from a mp3 using either gambas or a shell utility?
[05:04] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: wait, no
[05:04] <nothingman> nosklo: it worked with Breezy
[05:04] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: i've tried that, same results
[05:04] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16496
[05:05] <JMO> Ok. I will do something better. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199551&page=2
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: unrar-nonfree is what you want
[05:05] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, OMG!
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: sorry ^_^
[05:05] <Healot> no... I can use LAME+libid3tag for that
[05:05] <JMO> My question: Its safe to make a "Repair packages" with Synaptic?
[05:05] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: for example on youtube it'll play about 2 seconds of video and stop, but never any audio
[05:05] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, oh well... ill just overwrite it
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: that works. you didn't screw anything up.
[05:05] <bruenig> drkevorkian, assuming you have the extra repositories enabled try this 'sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree' 'sudo update-flashplugin' that wouldn't work for a while because they took flashplugin-nonfree out of the repos but it is back
[05:05] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: totally safe. totally.
[05:05] <Rug> JMO: sorry but I don't understand what you mean by that
[05:06] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, ill do the command line then
[05:06] <SpecialCore> hello, how can I install a "***.deb" file in the console window?
[05:06] <spades> sudo dpkg -i file
[05:06] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:ok.
[05:06] <crimsun> Shigun: interesting. Your 'Analog/Digital Output Jack' may be inverted.
[05:06] <skavenge> its cool that freenode opers are so involved, you never see anyone caring on efnet heh
[05:06] <JMO> Rug: Look at the last post of the page I gave. I got that problem. Its better explained there.
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, giving me something... bad
[05:07] <crimsun> Shigun: (normally it's unmuted/on for analog and muted/off for digital)
[05:07] <SpecialCore> !install > SpecialCore
[05:07] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: ^_^
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, package missing blah blah, Obsoleted...
[05:07] <Rug> JMO: no.  I am CLI only and I don't feel like WORKING just to help you.  throw me a bone or wait for somebody else.
[05:07] <Shigun> crimsun: Possible.  I did notice when I was trying to get analog for my headphones from it this weekend, nothing went out through it.  Let me reverse it
[05:07] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: hmmmmm. hang on.
[05:07] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, E: Package unrar-nonfree has no installation candidate
[05:07] <crimsun> Shigun: there's also the possibility of your routing being connected to the 'External Amplifier' toggle
[05:08] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: still no audio, what repo's were you talking about?
[05:08] <bruenig> did it install?
[05:08] <Shigun> crimsun: Actually, I do not know how to switch the analog/digital output jack, as I dont see it in alsamixer
[05:09] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: yeah it did
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, and I've seen that if you have 2 sound cards (motherboard & pci) that the sound does not work right
[05:09] <Shigun> crimsun: Just noticed, the analog/digital output jack is for the live, not the nvidia
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> disabled the m/b and worked perfectly
[05:09] <Shigun> nomasteryoda: I had it working fine just 3 days ago
[05:09] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: but i can't get audio from any flash stuff
[05:09] <bruenig> drkevorkian, there are known audio problems with the flashplugin, if you have anything using the speakers before you start your browser, it sometimes has problems working
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:10] <JMO> Rug: Ok, sorry =p I installed libatk1.0.0 and since then, the half of my packages appear like if they were broken. The installation of the library wasnt problematic at all, and I want to know if, given the list of packages, its safe to use the option on Synaptic for "Repair packages", because I dont know what does it do.
[05:10] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: i've tried restarting and such but no changes
[05:10] <crimsun> Shigun: err, wasn't your default set to card 0?
[05:10] <bruenig> drkevorkian, try this ctrl+alt+backspace, that will restart x and then go straight into the browser and try to watch something
[05:10] <iamelite> I just got UT2004 Linux yesterday. AND Dmn... FAST
[05:10] <Shigun> crimsun: default card is 0, yes.  Its the nvidia.  However, the analog/digital out is on the live in alsamixer
[05:10] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: meaning? Martin and I worked pretty hard to make sure that situation /does/ work.
[05:10] <crimsun> Shigun: ok, so I need amixer -c0
[05:11] <Rug> JMO: yes, it should hurt (any more then things already being screwed up)
[05:11] <mgi> hey.. has anyone here had much experience with DVB-T and dapper?
[05:11] <JMO> Rug: Its a pretty ugly situation. I cant use apt-get without having to remove all those packages.
[05:11] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: OK, you are going to activate the PLF repo. Here's how. Go to synaptic, then click settings-> repositories -> add. Then, click custom, and paste this in. "deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free" then repeat for "deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ dapper free non-free". both should be without quotes. If you are using breezy, substitute breezy for dapper.
[05:11] <JMO> Rug: And I dont know what happened.
[05:11] <Rug> JMO: have you tried removing the file that caused all the problem?
[05:12] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16503
[05:12] <JMO> Rug: It says me that I need to remove everything else too.
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> crimsun, well, i have a soundblaster live! and it just would not work without disabling the onboard card (yea, i installed the patch for sblaster)
[05:12] <JMO> Rug: Can I force the single removal of the package?
[05:12] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: make sure to click reload in synaptic afterwards, so that it reloads the contents of the new repo. then, do a search for unrar, and choose the one that says unrar-nonfree.
[05:13] <Rug> not that I know of
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> i could not control the sound except by wave controller
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> on the sblaster contyrols
[05:13] <nomasteryoda>  but i fixed
[05:13] <KBlair> Hrm, does anybody know if Linux nForce Driver - AMD64/EM64T 1.0-0310 for nForce 410 works on Ubuntu?
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> the old fashioned way
[05:13] <java> guys, where I find the gnome-distributor-logo [the foot]  for download?
[05:13] <Dragonfyre13> KBlair: I've heard yes, but don't take my word for it.
[05:13] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: 'Wave' is the proper control for certain revisions of the stac*s
[05:14] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Allright... They sllot the same tho. but i did it
[05:14] <JMO> Rug: Well..., thanks for the answes. I will keep looking. Maybe come back later.
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ya
[05:14] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: you should be able to use both onboard and the live
[05:14] <bruenig> java, art.gnome.com is probably a good place to look
[05:14] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: sry i accidentally restarted
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i know
[05:14] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: anyway no luck
[05:14] <KBlair> Ok, thanks for the heads up.
[05:14] <java> bruenig, thanks! =D
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i could in breezy
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> do in suse
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> not here though
[05:14] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: can you install unrar-nonfree?
[05:14] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: so what's broken in dapper?
[05:14] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Binary... source. ill have to figure wht that means later
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> i may try again next week
[05:15] <bruenig> drkevorkian, it did that to me for a while and I used the breezy flashplugin for a while and then switched back
[05:15] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: source means that you can download the source, and compile manually on some things.
[05:15] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: I'm not sure I understand your issue in Dapper.
[05:15] <Shigun> iamelite: binary is precompiled programs.  source is the actual source code for programs
[05:15] <DrKevorkian> is there a separate plugin for breezy?
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> no sound output on either card except static with the analog/digital is checked
[05:15] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: 99% of the time you use binary.
[05:15] <bruenig> drkevorkian, pick one of these mirrors and you can open the file with gdebi or download it and do it via terminal if you want http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmultiverse%2Ff%2Fflash-player%2Fflashplayer-mozilla_7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1_i386.deb&md5sum=3b1169a02265eac2eb9cad1fcbc8ac7f&arch=i386&type=main
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> with some sound, but nothing that would work
[05:15] <feryana> hi there
[05:15] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Ill paste bin this
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> i'll debug and let you know later
[05:16] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: no output at all regardless of mixer control toggling on both cards?
[05:16] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: huh?
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> cause Ubuntu roxors
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> only the static with mixed sound from my mp3, movies etc
[05:16] <feryana> this is a strange question, but I dont know where can I ask for it. More or less, how much can be going to a dentist for filling one thooth??????
[05:16] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: on both cards (independently)?
[05:16] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16504
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:17] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:feel free to put it on my wiki if you found it helpful. www.dragonfyre13.com
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> tried everything
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> but i'm ok now
[05:17] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: I need a bug report against linux-source-2.6.15
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i'll worry wiht that next week
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:17] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, just give that a read
[05:17] <wastrel> http://www.1800dentist.com/
[05:17] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:ah. hang on
[05:17] <crimsun> nomasteryoda: please be as thorough as possible so I won't have to back-n'-forth
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:17] <feryana> wastrel i was there. but I didn't see any prices
[05:17] <nomasteryoda> i will
[05:18] <Shigun> crimsun: I set a song to play, and went through on alsamixer -c 0, changing things from one side to another, and no change on it (including the external amp)
[05:18] <_TomB> When I rebuild casper, where do I put the casper.conf file?
[05:18] <skavenge> just installed ubuntu the other day on a dell laptop with intel 915GM video on it, anyone know if this has 3d acceleration and do i need to install something extra to take advantage?
[05:18] <Dragonfyre13> oh, crap. they took it out of dapper. just install unrar, and see if that works for the file. if it doesn't, I'll keep coaching.
[05:18] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:see previous
[05:18] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, hmm
[05:18] <wastrel> feryana:  you'll need to make some phone calls i guess :] .  check the university they may have a dental school that has a cheap teaching practice.
[05:19] <Shigun> crimsun: It works now, but I am completely confused as to why
[05:19] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, i got unrar.
[05:19] <feryana> thanks man!
[05:19] <crimsun> Shigun: 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' was set to 0, which is PCM (analog). Is it set to 1 or 3 now?
[05:19] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: once that is done, just do "unrar e file.r00" where file.r00 is the first of the series of rar files you want to unpack.
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> Shigun, the power of the force is strong in this one
[05:19] <bruenig> iamelite, unrar doesn't work for rar 3.0 compressed files or so i have read
[05:19] <Shigun> crimsun: I decided to test out the input/output port on my motherboard, instead of the SPDIF output, and it seems to be sending the sound through there
[05:19] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, Uh oh...
[05:19] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:19] <feryana> but more or less do you know any prices?
[05:19] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: what?
[05:19] <feryana> 100? 200?
[05:20] <Shigun> crimsun: still 0, also
[05:20] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, I tried to open it. it sais Bash : unrar : LMFAO you stupid noob!
[05:20] <crimsun> Shigun: if you change it to 1 (or 3), does it send through the spdif?
[05:20] <wastrel> dunno
[05:20] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: pastebin it.
[05:20] <jasonm_> hey, when i just logged in i got a message saying the x-server (i think) and gnome keyboard layouts differed and asked me which i wanted to use, i went with X... but now my alt+tab doesnt work... so im assuming i should have went wtih gnome, i pressed "dont ask me again", so i dont know how to fix this, anyone have any idea's?
[05:20] <zorplex> For some reason when I hit "Shift+Backspace" GNOME restarts, any clues?
[05:21] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, no im kidding. Was trying to say the computer was insulting me... Nvm. it worked
[05:21] <wastrel> zorplex it's a feature of xgl
[05:21] <zorplex> :/
[05:21] <zorplex> can I disable it?
[05:21] <zorplex> or change it?
[05:21] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: I thought so, but ubuntu devs do have a sense of humor... ^_^
[05:21] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, TY Grandmaster Dragsta
[05:21] <Flannel> zorplex: take XGL support questions to #ubuntu-xgl please
[05:21] <Shigun> crimsun: Through alsamixer, the only options is has are 0, 33, 67, and 100
[05:21] <zorplex> kk
[05:22] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite:feel free to put it on my wiki if you found it helpful. www.dragonfyre13.com
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, apt-get moo
[05:22] <zorplex> then another q, How would one go about making the console translucent?
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, still do
[05:22] <Shigun> zorplex: using gnome-terminal?
[05:22] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, will do**
[05:22] <wastrel> zorplex:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=182007
[05:22] <zorplex> indeed
[05:22] <hbweb500> How can I enable simultaneous sounds in my sound server?
[05:22] <Dragonfyre13> iamelite: hehehe.
[05:22] <zorplex> looking
[05:22] <skavenge> boy is frostwire buggy for me
[05:23] <crimsun> Shigun: 0 == 0, 1 == 33, 2 == 67, 3 == 100
[05:23] <Dragonfyre13> g2g, #apache is calling.
[05:23] <usuario1> hi
[05:23] <Dragonfyre13> #leave
[05:23] <Shigun> crimsun: ahhh, ok.  Well, I changed it through all of those values, and never once did the sound stop playing from my speakers
[05:23] <Ro1> hello
[05:23] <iamelite> dragonfyre13, oh great
[05:23] <hbweb500> skavenge: Isnt it slow? Im using limewire instead, much more responsive.
[05:23] <Dial_tone> is anyone able to transfer files in gaim?
[05:23] <Ro1> yeah
[05:23] <beefsprocket> speaking of gaim...
[05:23] <DarkMageZ> Dial_tone, from msn to msn yes
[05:23] <Ro1> anyone useing ubuntu on a laptop
[05:23] <beefsprocket> trying to compoile 2.0 beta 3
[05:23] <iamelite> Divx and Ubuntu...
[05:23] <Dial_tone> ok
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, yes
[05:24] <iamelite> hows it done
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> here ...
[05:24] <bitviper> anyone know how to hide joins to a channel in Gaim?
[05:24] <Ro1> well...my wireless card dosnt work
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> everywhere
[05:24] <DarkMageZ> beefsprocket, you don't need to, there are packages
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, you need to find out what model
[05:24] <Ro1> ok
[05:24] <beefsprocket> getting this error: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
[05:24] <beefsprocket> i'd like to though
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, open a terminal window
[05:24] <Ro1> o
[05:24] <hbweb500> How can I make it so that I can play two sounds at the same time in ALSA?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> lspci
[05:24] <Ro1> k
[05:24] <skavenge> hbweb500 ; i haven't noticed a speed issue but i've been using it a few days and its bricked about three times shutting down my whole x session heh
[05:24] <jasonm_> on login i got a message saying the x-server (i think) and gnome keyboard layouts differed and asked me which i wanted to use, i went with X... but now my alt+tab doesnt work... so im assuming i should have went wtih gnome, i pressed "dont ask me again", so i dont know how to fix this, anyone have any idea's?
[05:24] <Ro1> terminl opened
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, type lspci
[05:24] <skavenge> its very promising though
[05:24] <crimsun> Shigun: still using plug:iec958?
[05:25] <Ro1> ok
[05:25] <bruenig> drkevorkian, did that work?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> I'll bet you see Broadcom
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> or bcm
[05:25] <hbweb500> skavenge: I see, for me it freezes and is unresponsive. Limewire is awesome.
[05:25] <zorplex> awesome, thx wastrel ^^
[05:25] <Ro1> yeah, its a broadcom
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !firmware
[05:25] <Ro1> 0000:03:07.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about firmware
[05:25] <iamelite> NVM... easy ubuntu
[05:25] <Shigun> crimsun: yes
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> good
[05:25] <bruenig> !nothing
[05:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> Ro1, you need to get the firmware for that
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !broadcom
[05:25] <Ro1> ah..where
[05:25] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:25] <Ro1> ok
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> looky there
[05:26] <zorplex> one more, quick question: (may have been answered already) How do you make the console translucent in gnome?
[05:26] <bruenig> !anything
[05:26] <Ro1> and there should be something on there?
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> yes
[05:26] <NickGarvey> pwned
[05:26] <crimsun> Shigun: try: amixer set 'IEC958' 'IEC958 In'
[05:26] <Ro1> ok, thanks a lot
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:26] <Ro1> i really like ubuntu, todays my first dya using it.....i higHHHHly recommened it over suse
[05:26] <gadis> hello
[05:26] <gadis> can help how to kill user on my box
[05:26] <usuario1> hi
[05:26] <gadis> i'm detect ilegal user login now
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> gadis, how?
[05:26] <Shigun> crimsun: amixer: Mixer attach default error: Invalid argument
[05:27] <gadis> ya how
[05:27] <gadis> kill ?
[05:27] <skavenge> just installed ubuntu the other day on a dell laptop with intel 915GM video on it, anyone know if this has 3d acceleration and do i need to install something extra to take advantage?
[05:27] <nothingman> from my /var/log/gdm/:0.log:
[05:27] <bruenig> gadis, system>administratin>users and groups can do it graphically
[05:27] <nothingman> (EE) S3VIRGE(1): Cannot read V_BIOS
[05:27] <gadis> bima Apr 28 04:34 (61.94.153.102) <== this is ilegal user how to disconect this guy
[05:27] <crimsun> Shigun: try: amixer -c0 set 'IEC958',0 'IEC958 In'
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, it does not have real 3d, but you can get pretty close
[05:27] <gadis> i need cmd
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> there is a package for that
[05:28] <zorplex> Quick Q: How do you make the GNOME console translucent?
[05:28] <gadis> it's for my server and don't have grapfhic
[05:28] <gadis> can help me
[05:28] <skavenge> nomasteryoda ; thanks i'll take a look in synaptic
[05:28] <winman> Is there a way to use dapper theme, those orange widgets and everything, in breezy?
[05:28] <_TomB> When I rebuild casper, where do I put the casper.conf file?
[05:28] <NickGarvey> whoa, lil-o is in this room
[05:28] <NickGarvey> is lil-o normally?
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> k
[05:28] <skavenge> yeah
[05:29] <NickGarvey> (I put a - on purpose)
[05:29] <Shigun> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16505
[05:29] <Toma-> gadis: what are you doing?
[05:29] <hbweb500> zorplex: Edit -> profiles, select the profile, edit button, effects
[05:29] <nomasteryoda> and what is this "illegal" user's name>?
[05:29] <gadis> Toma- can help me how to kill user i'm detect ilegal login in to my shell server
[05:29] <gadis> ilegal login i mean
[05:29] <zorplex> thx hbweb500
[05:29] <hbweb500> zorplex: np
[05:30] <disant> gadis, 1. lock his account 2. kill his terminal
[05:30] <crimsun> Shigun: ok, and any luck now?
[05:30] <heman> is it a common bug for the terminal to close immediately after it opens?
[05:30] <disant> but what do you mean "illega".. using someone elses accnt?
[05:30] <kleedrac> Silly question which I've found the answer to before but can't seem to now that I need it ... how do I set a shell script to run a process sudo'ed without needing to enter the password?
[05:30] <gadis> disant how to kill his terminal can give the command
[05:30] <gadis> i don't know
[05:31] <Shigun> crimsun: still sending through the in/out, and not the SPDIF.  I'm not too terribly worried about it, but its odd
[05:31] <Toma-> gadis: open up your own terminal and run "ps aux" then run "sudo kill -KILL <PID>" where PID is the number of the programs hes running
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> gadis, please define your system.. not gui? what are you running?
[05:31] <wastrel> kleedrac:  you need to edit /etc/sudoers for the command to be run with the NOPASSWD flag
[05:31] <wastrel> kleedrac:  use visudo to edit sudoers, and read up on man sudoers
[05:31] <kleedrac> wastrel: That was it ... I was looking in /etc and just blind today :) ... thanks alot :)
[05:32] <blind> I know what you mean.
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> gadis, how about skill?
[05:32] <DrKevorkian> bruenig: sorry i missed when you last asked, and no i still have no luck
[05:32] <alpha255> it works great on my DV1000 hp laptop
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: you might use iecset directly, then.
[05:32] <alpha255> :)
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> gadis, skill -KILL -v /dev/pts/username
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> =
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> ?
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: particularly the pro and audio modes.
[05:32] <Shigun> crimsun: I've never had any experience with iecset
[05:32] <skavenge> everything worked out of the box except wireless on my dell laptop as well, was very pleased
[05:32] <crimsun> Shigun: it's pretty straightforward (and the man page documents it succinctly)
[05:33] <Shigun> crimsun: Ok, I will look into it.  Thank you very much for your help
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, I added a mini-pci wifi to this dell ... an intel a/b/g model... cost 22$
[05:33] <jherm> i just discovered why my broadcom onboard wifi wasn't working... i had to "rmmod bcm43xx"... can anyone tell me where i can automate this on boot? is there a blacklist for kernel modules?
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> installed the newer firmware from the sf project and it works very well
[05:33] <Toma-> jherm: /etc/rc.local
[05:34] <Toma-> jherm: or yeh, the blacklist
[05:34] <skavenge> nomasteryoda ' have a mini-pci dell here, which is broadcom trash but with some ndiswrapper help its working fine
[05:34] <jshriver> Anyone here know of any video capturing programs that you can configure frmo the cli to make a linux box a DVR?
[05:34] <jshriver> except MythTV?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> skavenge, ya, i did that on my work laptop
[05:34] <Toma-> jherm: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> works fine
[05:34] <jshriver> lol trying to figure out how to use mencoder
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> jshriver, look up the command lines on google
[05:34] <disant> gadis, 'skill -u <username>'
[05:34] <jshriver> been trying..
[05:34] <disant> will kill all of the users processes
[05:34] <jherm> thanks alot Toma-
[05:35] <Toma-> jherm: np
[05:35] <disant> but make sure you lock that acct before
[05:35] <jshriver> I can use mencoder fine for transcoding, but can't figure how to feed it from the v4l...have tried various -tv tv://channel and options nothing works
[05:35] <Toma-> jshriver: hang on a sec
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> this is a ipw2200 card
[05:35] <Toma-> !pastebin
[05:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:35] <disant> gadis, 'passwd -l <username>'
[05:36] <NickGarvey> OUCH
[05:36] <deepalley> anyone here konw about Larry Augustine,a CEO
[05:36] <mathieu> i'm trying to map a button to be captured by acpid to generate an action
[05:36] <mathieu> acpi_listen shows that the output is seen by acpid but there has been no function assigned to it
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> jshriver: http://dvr.sourceforge.net/html/main.html
[05:37] <disant> i think gadis is seen things.. he prob thought he's being hacked when saw his acct logged in to th ebox and just killed all of his proc :)    lesson... never fool w/linux while smokin pot :)
[05:37] <jshriver> thanks will try
[05:37] <mathieu> xev does not see any events from the pressing of the key
[05:37] <cpress> hey
[05:37] <Toma-> jshriver: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/recording.html
[05:37] <jshriver> I wouldnt even mind MythTV, but nto sure how to set it up under Ubuntu and this is my desktop so I dont want it to take control over the machine
[05:37] <alpha255> skavenge: well, I did run into the 915GM not being recognized by the installer, but I fixed it with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:37] <Toma-> jshriver: the last big grey section is a recording script
[05:37] <disant> jshriver, you've come to the right place :)
[05:37] <disant> I just finished setting up MythTV :)
[05:38] <jherm> also, is it recommended to use a win2k or winXP driver with ndiswrapper? should i just test both
[05:38] <Toma-> disant: you got mythtv to setup?
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> distant Does it work well?
[05:38] <disant> I finished setting it up and it works like a charm :)
[05:38] <deepalley> how dose ubuntu surpport 3D desktop
[05:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cool, it works under ubuntu?
[05:38] <Toma-> disant: did you have some sort of divine help?
[05:38] <disant> nah... 10 mins
[05:38] <Toma-> my god.
[05:39] <disant> took me more to configure wireless so I can move it to my TV
[05:39] <disant> the mythfrontend that is
[05:39] <Toma-> ive tried setting up mythtv like, 4 times and never have i got it to work.
[05:39] <disant> Toma-, where did it break?
[05:39] <jshriver> distant oh? how hard is it? I tried in Debian before and it was a pain
[05:39] <TassaDarK> hi
[05:39] <Toma-> disant: every single step. mostly on the mysql part
[05:39] <disant> http://www.quietglow.com/docs/ubuntumythtv.html
[05:39] <Jack_Sparrow> distant, can you define your setup? OS etc..
[05:39] <disant> xcept I got PVR-500
[05:39] <Toma-> bad link
[05:40] <disant> link works here
[05:40] <jshriver> distant: do you have to use breezy?
[05:40] <cpress> so, how do i fix it?
[05:40] <disant> "apt-get install apache mysql  mythmusic mythtv mythtv-backend mythtv-frontend mythweather"
[05:41] <Toma-> cpress: fix what?
[05:41] <cpress> um..
[05:41] <disant> well.. I'm running 5.10
[05:41] <Jack_Sparrow> distant... thanks for the link... WAY COOL...
[05:41] <cpress> root@server1:~# apt-get install postfix postfix-tls libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail
[05:42] <cpress> Reading package lists... Done
[05:42] <cpress> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:42] <disant> google my friend google
[05:42] <cpress> postfix is already the newest version.
[05:42] <cpress> Package postfix-tls is a virtual package provided by:
[05:42] <cpress>   postfix 2.2.10-1ubuntu0.1
[05:42] <cpress> You should explicitly select one to install.
[05:42] <cpress> E: Package postfix-tls has no installation candidate
[05:42] <cpress> that
[05:42] <disant> so select it explicitly
[05:42] <cpress> k
[05:43] <Toma-> and DONT FLOOD
[05:43] <cpress> yeah, and make me a turkish swiss omlet
[05:43] <cpress> like i know how to do this crap
[05:43] <Toma-> !pastebin
[05:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:43] <Toma-> !coc
[05:43] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:43] <disant> Jack_Sparrow, the next step would be to hack my xbox the way my boss has at work.. install linux on it, make it wireless and use it as mythfrontend
[05:43] <Toma-> knowledge is power! :)
[05:44] <disant> .. xcept I'll prob do it to my PSII
[05:44] <jshriver> I dont know the naming conventions for ubuntu... is the latest version when you download the CD iso and do a net install breezy?
[05:44] <disant> .. cuz dont have xbox :)
[05:44] <winman> ok, I need to get those MS fonts installed, Trebuchet MS and everything, I tried installing msttcorefonts .. but it says the package could not be found, I have multiverse enabled .. any leads?
[05:44] <wastrel> jshriver:  no, dapper is the latest
[05:44] <Toma-> jshriver: no, dapper
[05:44] <jshriver> what's the diff?
[05:44] <jshriver> getting errors on apt-get install mythtv, etc
[05:44] <cpress> ok..
[05:44] <disant> what errors?
[05:44] <cpress> so, what am i suppose to do?
[05:45] <wastrel> jshriver:  graphical installer, updated packages, better hardware detection/configuraton.
[05:45] <kleedrac> OK so I've added the entry to sudoers but I'll still need to call the script as sudo can I make a launcher for it (I plan on having it open in terminal anyhow) or would I be better off using gksudo?
[05:45] <wastrel> winman:  did you update after enabling multiverse?
[05:45] <wastrel> ?
[05:45] <jshriver> hrm.. I gave the wrong password for Mysql how do I change it so I can install mythtv?
[05:46] <disant> do 'apt-get remove mythtv' and rerun it
[05:46] <winman> wastrel, yes I did
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > hmm, mythtv ?
[05:46] <disant> the pass is blank first
[05:46] <disant> [Ex0r] , yeah
[05:46] <disant> r00lz
[05:47] <cpress> Toma: any clues?
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > hmm, sort of like dvr
[05:47] <wastrel> winman:  it's definitely in multiverse in dapper... dunno
[05:47] <disant> although I dont care as much for the TV recording part as for having a nice frontend to play my vidz and music off my fileserver
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > don't have a tv tuner card for that though :\
[05:47] <disant> [Ex0r] , it is THE dvr
[05:47] <disant> you can get one under $100
[05:48] <disant> under $50 even
[05:48] <Toma-> cpress: apt-get install postfix libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules libdb3-util procmail
[05:48] <disant> but see my post above re other uses
[05:48] <winman> wastrel, ok thanks ... its called "msttcorefonts" right?
[05:48] <jshriver> hrm apt is crapping out because I gave it the wrong mysql password.. I tried apt-get remove mythtv-database mythtv then intall.. but seems to be storing the password elsewhere
[05:48] <cpress> Toma-: dont i need postfix-tls
[05:48] <jshriver> how do I get around this?
[05:48] <wastrel> msttcorefonts yes
[05:48] <fdelacruz> goodmorning guys and good evening
[05:48] <[Ex0r] > disant, i'll just wait til I get my cable bill caught up and order comcast dvr from them :)
[05:48] <disant> jshriver, it will prompt you for password I think
[05:48] <NickGarvey> fdelacruz: :)
[05:48] <Toma-> cpress: if you understood what apt-get was telling you, it says "You dont need postfix-tls as its part of postfix"
[05:48] <SpecialCore> does anyone know how to use "Cisco VPNC" or any channel to talk about it?
[05:48] <fdelacruz> hi nickGarvey
[05:49] <jshriver> distant aye but I entered the wrong one
[05:49] <cpress> o ok
[05:49] <cpress> Toma-: thx
[05:49] <Toma-> np
[05:49] <jshriver> now when I try to install it errors out and doesnt ask me anymore
[05:49] <disant> [Ex0r] , does it skip the ads and stuff? does it let you save in mpeg2?
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > disant, yes it skips ads, and not sure about mpeg2
[05:49] <disant> jshriver, try changing your mysql password
[05:50] <disant> install phpmyadmin
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > but I know that it's usb accessible so you can access the hdd from a computer so I can take the recordings and compress them to whatever :)
[05:50] <Abnix> ok what'd I hose up:  checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables  ??
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > jshriver, apt-get remove mythtv
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > and than go in and delete the folder that contained the contents
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > probably /etc/mythtv
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > than re-un apt-get install mythtv
[05:51] <Abnix> couldn't he just do sudo apt-config mythtv ?
[05:51] <jshriver> |Ex0r| tried that... but when I try apt-get install mythtv mythtv-database it no longer prompts for password
[05:52] <disant> i think its myth-frontend
[05:52] <disant> remove all that you installed and reinstall
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > mythtv doesn't run over the x system does it? (Meaning that it does automatically start during bootup and consumes like the entire screen) ?
[05:53] <disant> no
[05:53] <disant> it can run in a window, too
[05:54] <disant> but you can configure it to run instead of the other default window manager
[05:54] <daaku> anyone know why ubuntu comes with python* installed? (just curious)
[05:54] <disant> you'll have to run something simple like fluxbox
[05:54] <jshriver> hrm had to dpkg -P all of them
[05:54] <winman> wastrel, got it :) .. somehow enabling multiverse using command line wasn't as effective :)
[05:54] <crimsun> daaku: because many things rely on python
[05:54] <alpha255> python is fun!
[05:54] <NickGarvey> yes it is!
[05:55] <wastrel> <3 python
[05:55] <vladtheimpala> can someone tell me the difference between the 1 cd and 5 cd editions on the shipit page?  is this just more software or what?
[05:55] <jshriver> ok it seems installed but getting this error
[05:55] <jshriver> Starting MythTV server: mythbackendSession management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[05:55] <bimberi> vladtheimpala: no, it's just the number of CD packages you will be sent
[05:55] <NickGarvey> vladtheimpala: one of them you get 1 cd, other one you get 1 cd and 4 for your friends :)
[05:55] <vladtheimpala> ohh, so for like passing out to friends and such?
[05:55] <NickGarvey> yup
[05:55] <disant> is mysql up?
[05:56] <vladtheimpala> ok great, thanks
[05:56] <bimberi> vladtheimpala: you got it :)
[05:56] <daaku> crimsun: surely not every single python package it comes with is needed - i just removed a bunch, and most of them were not needed
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > wow, very nice software :)
[05:56] <disant> [Ex0r] , which
[05:56] <[Ex0r] > just gotta wait til a tv tuner card goes on sale now :)
[05:56] <disant> [Ex0r] , pricewatch.com
[05:57] <skavenge> i need one of those external usb tuners for my laptop, that'd be sweet
[05:57] <skavenge> i've got one in the desktop
[05:57] <crimsun> daaku: you don't need anything but the C lib if you know what you're doing.
[05:57] <crimsun> daaku: everything else, to some extent, is a convenience.
[05:57] <[Ex0r] > gotta find one that does audio and video
[05:57] <Jack_Sparrow> distant will the ATI All in Wo Pro AGP work with MythTVnder
[05:58] <fdelacruz> hi guys need help how can I divide my networks into 10 subnets
[05:58] <vladtheimpala> ubuntu fits on one cd?  i used to have fedora and it took a dvds worth
[05:58] <disant> Jack_Sparrow, RTFM : http://www.mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-3.html#ss3.1
[05:58] <Jack_Sparrow> ONe CD
[05:58] <daaku> crimsun: whoa, chill out.. it was a harmless question. and anyways, i would ask the same question if i saw c libraries that seemed to be redundant
[05:58] <NickGarvey> !rtfm
[05:58] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:59] <disant> oops.. sorry
[05:59] <NickGarvey> ;)
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> distant... you must be from the Debian RTFM group..
[05:59] <disant> nah.. we use it at work though.. L2 to L1 :)
[05:59] <disant> (support)
[05:59] <disant> RTFM = read the FINE manual
[05:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea right
[06:00] <daaku> crimsun: the python ones strike out compared to others because there's over a 50 of them
[06:00] <disant> anhyho..hitting the hay
[06:00] <Jack_Sparrow> dont let the door hit you in the manual
[06:00] <KBlair> Doh!
[06:01] <crimsun> daaku: I don't view that as a problem. You have the freedom to create your own derivative, not to mention there are other distros, if Python packages being included is problematic.
[06:01] <skavenge> i gotta find something to break everything is working and im bored heh
[06:02] <jshriver> distant did you get the authentication error?
[06:02] <crimsun> skavenge: rm -f /boot/{vmlinuz*,initrd*} && sync && reboot
[06:02] <crimsun> skavenge: (obviously don't do that)
[06:02] <skavenge> crimsun; that's a bit more broke than i need i think ;)
[06:03] <sivanicon> I was following the compiz howto on the guide and now I get error when i boot and cant get gui, any ideas?
[06:03] <daaku> crimsun: fair enough, if you dont view it as a problem, you can ignore the question. but i would hope that with a open source/community driven distribution the users have the right to ask questions
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> sivanicon, you missed a step somewhere
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> i would guess
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:04] <Jack_Sparrow> daaku: and express opinions
[06:04] <skavenge> honestly thats what i like about synaptic though, i can find programs to play with
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> should get it back to some normalcy
[06:04] <Daveyboy> can you install kde utils/apps in gnome? For example k3b in gnome?
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[06:05] <crimsun> daaku: of course we do. It needs to be asked on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, however, with a clear plan of how to address it.
[06:05] <skavenge> Daveyboy ; yes, thankfully since k3b is the best heh
[06:05] <Daveyboy> skavenge, thanks
[06:05] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[06:05] <daaku> Jack_Sparrow: definitely
[06:05] <skavenge> you just have to install some kde parts but synaptic will take care of it
[06:06] <Dial_tone> dang, everytime I follow a howto it messes up my fgl. I am getting an nvidia card and soon
[06:06] <crimsun> daaku: i.e., "omgtoomuchpython" is insufficient. Prototype a fresh, default install with replacements for the python packages (while retaining functionality), and provide statistical indication of what it will offer. A cost-benefit analysis, if you will.
[06:07] <daaku> crimsun, Jack_Sparrow: its all good. i was only wondering if there's a known reason for all the python packages to be installed by default. i dont really have a problem with it. apt-get --purge remove works just fine for me. thanks for all the help though
[06:08] <daaku> crimsun: 'omgilovepython' doesnt seem to be a very valid argument either
[06:08] <crimsun> daaku: no, python is essentially mandated by the sabdfl.
[06:08] <crimsun> daaku: and seeing how he funds Canonical (and thus Ubuntu), I'm sure he will like the analysis more than I care.
[06:09] <Dial_tone> I didn't realize MS killed WinFS for good
[06:09] <meheren> im bored
[06:09] <ardchoille> Dial_tone: yeah, they've only been working on it since 1995 without any release
[06:09] <meheren> sudo mount -t iso9660  -o /home/meheren/Desktop/install-x86-minimal-2006.0.iso ~/Desktop/gentoo\ install
[06:09] <crimsun> daaku: again, the proper forum -- with a clear indication of thorough, investigated replacements -- should be addressed to the ubuntu-devel mailing list.
[06:09] <daaku> crimsun: so no good reason then. thanks again for the answer
[06:09] <meheren> what am i doing wrong?
[06:10] <alpha255> i thought winfs was going to be an add on
[06:10] <daaku> crimsun: again, not really a problem, more about curiosity and less about 'iwanttheworldmyway'
[06:10] <crimsun> daaku: I have no idea what you consider "good", though I do know what I would consider easier to maintain from my packages.
[06:11] <sivanicon> i tried sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and redid the config but still doesnt work
[06:11] <sivanicon> the guide made me add the /usr/bin/thefuture script to start up how would i get rid of that?
[06:12] <meheren> sudo mount -t iso9660  -o /home/meheren/Desktop/install-x86-minimal-2006.0.iso ~/Desktop/gentoo\ install
[06:12] <meheren> anyone have any idea what's wrong with this command?
[06:12] <crimsun> you're missing "loop" after -o
[06:12] <meheren> lol
[06:12] <meheren> thx so much
[06:12] <ShadeFX> Hey guys. I need a bit of help. I'm about to format my HDD and install Ubuntu 5.10 as my primary OS. However, I'm on a wireless network using a NetGear 54mbps wireless USB 2.0 adapter (WG111v2)
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> good catch crimsun
[06:12] <crimsun> not to mention you didn't indicate whether loop.ko is loaded.
[06:12] <meheren> hehe worked :)
[06:13] <ShadeFX> Will ubuntu 5.10 allow me to connect to my network using that adapter?
[06:13] <Abnix> meheren: immigrating from ubuntu here to gentoo?
[06:14] <ShadeFX> Anyone? Does anyone know where I could find out if you guys don't know?
[06:14] <Jack_Sparrow> People... thanks for all the help.. C everyone tomorrow
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, no just trying gentoo out
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Shade, I think that is supported,
[06:15] <alpha255> crimsun: what's the difference between a .ko and kernel module?
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, im dual installing
[06:15] <Abnix> meheren: ahh, cool, best of luck to you on that
[06:15] <ShadeFX> Thanks, Jack. So I'd just pop in the install disc for the adapter after I install ubuntu, and just proceed from there?
[06:15] <Jack_Sparrow> One of my systems has that USB adapter... Just not sure which OS is on that box
[06:15] <meheren> Abnix, thx :)
[06:15] <scud> i must say printing rocks in ubuntu
[06:16] <calebt> how can i run gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06???
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> shade, I would run the live first just to see if it sees it
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> live cd that is
[06:17] <ShadeFX> Jack, I tried that, it didn't recongnize it. I figure it's because the driver isn't installed or the adapter is configured for ubuntu? I'm using windows right now.
[06:17] <poningru> how does one delete their bash history?
[06:17] <meheren> what's the program that can connect to the itunes music library again?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> If live didnt see it I doubt it will work
[06:17] <ShadeFX> I see.
[06:17] <tritium> poningru: history -c
[06:17] <sivanicon> how do you restart xorg?
[06:17] <ShadeFX> Well, thanks anyway.
[06:17] <tritium> sivanicon: are you running gdm?
[06:17] <Jack_Sparrow> I may be running Knoppix on that netgear box
[06:18] <poningru> tritium: thanks mate
[06:18] <sivanicon> i hope
[06:18] <nbjayme> anybody know of a commandline utility to convert avi to ogg format?
[06:19] <The_Guardian> does anyone know if Ethereal works with dapper
[06:19] <The_Guardian> ?
[06:19] <sivanicon> tritium:i think so
[06:19] <crimsun> The_Guardian: yes, it does.
[06:19] <Centaur5> Does anybody know if installing the fglrx drivers would improve my integrated ATI 200M video card on my laptop?
[06:20] <The_Guardian> crim which version? I assume the debian one?
[06:20] <wasabi> The_Guardian, the one that comes with Dapper has a high chance of working. ;)
[06:20] <wasabi> Simple search of the package manager would show it.
[06:20] <meheren> anyone know the program that allows you to buy songs from apple
[06:20] <meheren> the itunes like program...
[06:21] <Aesop> Hey, anyone know of a good method to convert video files encoded in WMV to something else? DOesn't really matter what it winds up as as long as its not WMV.
[06:21] <The_Guardian> that's what I thought wasabi
[06:21] <The_Guardian> it doesn't show up for me
[06:21] <wasabi> might be in universe
[06:21] <lib8264q> hello
[06:21] <[Ex0r] > meheren, itunes ? That's the only one I know of. Unless Napster added in itunes support
[06:22] <chem199> Does anyone know the fix for the AC 97 on board sound card, I get a crackling sound and occasionally I sound, but quickly it goes back to the crackling, I checked all of the volume levels, I am at my wits end, any help would be appreciated
[06:22] <calebt> i can't run gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06, please help me
[06:23] <wasabi> calebt, That's generally something you don't need to run manually. Are you saying it doesn't launch automatically?
[06:23] <mathieu> i'm trying to map a button to be captured by acpid to generate an action
[06:23] <mathieu> acpi_listen shows that the output is seen by acpid but there has been no function assigned to it anyone have any ideas how to do this ?
[06:23] <pvd> how do you install a .jar file
[06:23] <pvd> ?
[06:23] <pvd> or extract it
[06:23] <wasabi> pvd, You don't. It's not something that you "install."
[06:23] <[Ex0r] > pvd, sudo java -jar filename.ja
[06:23] <wasabi> It's a java class library
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > pvd, sudo java -jar filename.jar *
[06:24] <The_Guardian> wasabi you're right it's in universe
[06:24] <wasabi> You can run it though.
[06:24] <The_Guardian> thanks!
[06:24] <pvd> thanks
[06:24] <wasabi> Geeze.
[06:24] <metamorphis> can anyone tell me what will keep ubuntu from writning the file system to disc from the live cd 6.06
[06:24] <wasabi> Lets tell people to run random .jar files as rootl
[06:24] <wasabi> Sounds like a good plan.
[06:24] <pvd> its for google video
[06:24] <[Ex0r] > Well, considering the six I have used won't let you unless you sudo, yes it does.
[06:24] <oni-dracula> metamorphis, I had to use the alternate cd for it to pass the file system install :)
[06:25] <Punk-Fetish> metamorphis: not touching the install button?
[06:25] <metamorphis> thanx i guess i'll try it then
[06:25] <meheren> [Ex0r] , howabout telling them to run it...
[06:26] <meheren> then when it fials to tell them to use sudo...?
[06:26] <lib8264q> hello all can someone tell me if i download files and cache tem locally instead of installing right way where do they get stored ?
[06:27] <wastrel> lib8264q:  /var/cache/apt/
[06:27] <pvd> weird, google wont let me upload video anymore without this, "Software"
[06:27] <tritium> lib8264q: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:27] <[Ex0r] > I offer my help as a one-at-a-time package. If they can't decide whether or not it's safe to run it that way, not my problem.
[06:27] <lib8264q> cool thanks ...
[06:27] <meheren> [Ex0r] , bear in mind some ppl here are complete noobs...
[06:28] <regeya> "ppl", meh
[06:28] <Aesop> Nevermind on mine, I think Mencoder can do it...
[06:28] <meheren> that know apsolutely nothing about even what "kernel" or "terminal" mean...
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > :\ were'nt allowed to say that word! lol
[06:28] <Aesop> Wow, this thing is fast, or slow. I'm not sure
[06:28] <meheren> [Ex0r] , right sry... :(
[06:28] <meheren> it's ah people
[06:28] <[Ex0r] > meheren, - I meant noobs, lol
[06:28] <Aesop> 3%, that means its slow, not fast
[06:28] <regeya> meheren: sounds like an orientation session is in order
[06:29] <tomlikestorock> hey all. On my laptop, I had tv-out. Then I installed xgl, and couldn't get tv-out on my laptop. So I uninstalled xgl, and I still can't get it. What's the deal?
[06:29] <meheren> lol...
[06:29] <n30n> cacls is the command for permissions right
[06:29] <regeya> meheren: or wait for gnome 4.0, which will consist only of a screen-filling button containing a foot with the words 'click here' on the ball of the foot
[06:29] <Aesop> Hey, kind of a random question, but does anyone have any reccomendations for good portable headphones?
[06:29] <meheren> regeya, to complicated... lol
[06:29] <regeya> and then it'll perform some sort of operation that brings an end to the universe
[06:29] <MTecknology> I need help!!!   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16508
[06:29] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, aren't all headphones portable? ::)
[06:30] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , nope. You gonna take a set of $800 headphones out in public?
[06:30] <n30n> Ex0r: lol
[06:30] <Dial_tone> does xchat support aliases or do you need a plugin/script?
[06:30] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, sure, with them locked to my neck
[06:30] <calebt> i can't run manually gnome-settings-daemon in ubuntu dapper 6.06, please help me
[06:31] <meheren> lol i wouldn't buy the $8000 headphones in the firstplace...
[06:31] <decadentevil> when I boot i get a screen saying it cant open rgb_db
[06:31] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , I'd just rather not. My studio headphones also require an amp... Not portable.
[06:31] <tritium> calebt: that's not meant to be run by the user
[06:31] <meheren> err $800
[06:31] <tomlikestorock> ugh.
[06:31] <tomlikestorock> anyone?
[06:31] <Aesop> Hmm
[06:31] <Aesop> XGL obviously changed something
[06:31] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, if you are looking for headphones that would in fact be portable, than all headphones are portable. (Would seem rather pointless to have studio headphones on an mp3 player)
[06:31] <Aesop> Frankly, I have no idea what, though.
[06:31] <skavenge> after awhile with my laptop all videos are very dark and unwatchable, im using totem, a restart of x fixes it is there a command or something to refresh so i dont have to totally restart???
[06:31] <Aesop> What's the laptop?
[06:32] <chem199> Nevermind, fixed it.
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> acer 4400 travelmat
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> e
[06:32] <tomlikestorock> well, is there something I should reinstall to overwrite the changes?
[06:32] <Aesop> tomlikestorock, Ubunty.
[06:32] <Aesop> Ubuntu*, even
[06:33] <tomlikestorock> :(
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, but I would suggest some sony wrap arounds. Could pick some up for about 30 bucks with volume control
[06:33] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , do they sound good?
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, Depends what you are using them for. I have some for my mp3 player and they sound marvelous.
[06:34] <Aesop> I was gonna suggest some stuff to him that might've helped.
[06:34] <Daveyboy> anyone have the link with the complete list of walkt hroughs for desktop c onfig> java , nvidia etc.
[06:34] <wastrel> well don't be sarcastic first then
[06:34] <tritium> you can chat all you want about headphones in #ubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:34] <NickGarvey> !easyubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, and if you like bass, the headphones give off some nice bass as well
[06:34] <[Ex0r] > !easyubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[06:34] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , I'm plannign to use them on my MP3 player. Difference is, I'm used to reference-quality headphones, and I want something that's up there, but cheaper. =P Maybe a pair of Shure's.
[06:35] <PORDO> IT WAS 310k here in Portland today.
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, damn, you beat me to it
[06:35] <emdash> i'm trying to build a patched ati driver with dpkg-buildpackage and i get this error, seems like something simple. i'm following the instructions in the apt-howto
[06:35] <[Ex0r] > Aesop, ah, you are looking at the top top top of the line ;)
[06:35] <emdash> sh-3.1$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source package is xserver-xorg-driver-ati
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 1:6.5.7.3-0ubuntu7
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Fabio M. Di Nitto <fabbione@ubuntu.com>
[06:35] <emdash> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture powerpc
[06:35] <emdash>  fakeroot debian/rules clean
[06:35] <emdash> /usr/bin/fakeroot: line 150: debian/rules: Permission denied
[06:35] <tritium> emdash: use pastebin!
[06:35] <emdash> gar
[06:35] <emdash> what is that
[06:36] <pvd> did you try sudo?
[06:36] <Aesop> [Ex0r] , no, I already HAVE top-top, those are my Grado's. I want something that, if the MP3 player and headphones get stolen, I'm gonna be more pissed about the MP3 player.
[06:36] <emdash> i thought that was the purpose of akeroot
[06:36] <tritium> !pastebin
[06:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <tritium> Aesop: [Ex0r] : please talk about headphones in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:36] <pvd> anyone know what terminal lets you do tabbed terminals?
[06:36] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : by like 15 seconds heh
[06:36] <NickGarvey> pvd: I know konsole does
[06:37] <wastrel> pvd:  gnome-terminal
[06:37] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, Screen lag :\
[06:37] <pvd> ah ok
[06:37] <emdash> pvd: gnome ferminal, e:fb
[06:37] <Aesop> tritium, yeah, wondered when you'd chime in. >.> Know of a way to make mencoder work faster?
[06:37] <Daveyboy> the support page that had all the install /conmfig commands for java, codecs etc.
[06:37] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ;)
[06:37] <[Ex0r] > Feel like i'm playing CS 1.06 on dial-up all over again
[06:37] <emdash> pvd: also i think there's mrxvt
[06:38] <tritium> Aesop: no
[06:38] <Aesop> tritium, Darn.
[06:38] <pvd> Thanks, multiple terminals in seperate windows sucks
[06:38] <pvd> :-x
[06:38] <heman> anyone know a good (tiny) http server for Ubuntu?
[06:39] <NickGarvey> heman: monkey is pretty small
[06:39] <[Ex0r] > heman, monkey is pretty small
[06:39] <emdash> pvd: gnome-terminal has it's own problems, for me
[06:39] <Aesop> heman, apache isn't exactly large.
[06:39] <emdash> pvd: it gets wonky if i use screen
[06:39] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r] : ..
[06:39] <pvd> emdash, what is screen for again?
[06:39] <pvd> I never got the idea of screen.
[06:40] <Guitarhero> anyone know how to get a shared wireless connection going?  I have a wireless card in a windows box i want it to be shared with my ubuntu comp
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: it makes a lot of sense if you log into other machines: it's a terminal emulator for the terminal
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey : . .
[06:40] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for walkthrough commands of all the desktop config packages
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: you can have multiple screens on one terminal and share them from other logins
[06:40] <NickGarvey> nick garvey is the coolest
[06:40] <NickGarvey> pvd: screen is amazing for ssh
[06:40] <emdash> pvd: if you don't use it i hink gnome-terminal works well enough
[06:40] <[Ex0r] > screen is AWESOME for ssh
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: I just discovered screen a week ago
[06:41] <emdash> pvd: or you could try the xfce version which seems faster
[06:41] <pvd> ohh ok, I only have one machine, haha.
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: make an effort to learn it it's awesome
[06:41] <NickGarvey> [Ex0r]  smells
[06:41] <emdash> pvd: ah, well it's still handy
[06:41] <[Ex0r] > NickGarvey, I smell it too, wonder what that is.
[06:41] <NickGarvey> maybe its candy
[06:41] <badrinarayan> pvd: it is like using multiple tabs...
[06:41] <pvd> I wish I could get XGL working right on Xfce! But im not going to start a XGL discussion in here
[06:41] <yeft> is ubuntu like beginner's linux?
[06:42] <tritium> yeft: beginners can use it, but it's no less advanced than any other distro
[06:42] <[Ex0r] > yeft, mandrake used to be, now it's mandriva and i've not used it
[06:42] <pvd> Is Mandriva actually easier than ubuntu?
[06:42] <yeft> thanks tritium and [Ex0r] 
[06:42] <bruenig> yeft, ubuntu is easier to use than others but is not beginners in the sense that it is restricted or unable to complete the more complex tasks as others
[06:42] <pvd> I dont see how it could get easier
[06:42] <Aesop> Linspire
[06:42] <pvd> oh god
[06:43] <pvd> lol
[06:43] <Aesop> The Geo Metro of Linux distros.
[06:43] <bruenig> mepis
[06:43] <InfoxicatingLady> yeft: everything I've heard says that ubuntu is the easiest one to use... ie, the most user friendly. but I guess its dependent on what you're used to
[06:43] <Aesop> Yeah, Mepis.
[06:43] <pvd> Mepis is easier than Ubuntu?
[06:43] <bruenig> if you want to pay
[06:43] <badrinarayan> pvd: well for instance, you shouldn't need to use console for samba shares to work
[06:43] <yeft> yeah, i mean no one says linux has gotta be hard to be good right?
[06:43] <NickGarvey> pvd: depends on who you ask.. but I say no
[06:43] <Aesop> Linspire == Linux trying to act liek Windows
[06:43] <badrinarayan> pvd: yes, mepis is easier for newbs
[06:43] <Double_D> anyone: how can i edit the preferences of an audio file so it shows up under the correct artist/album in rhythmbox?
[06:43] <Aesop> Personally, not easy.
[06:43] <pvd> Linspire = horrible
[06:43] <tanlaan> hey all
[06:43] <bruenig> linux is no harder than windows, just different
[06:43] <Aesop> bruenig, eh... Depends on what you want to do.
[06:43] <badrinarayan> ^^ agrees
[06:43] <NickGarvey> yeah, its just changing what you are used too
[06:44] <tanlaan> im just in here for a simple explanation
[06:44] <Aesop> Gaming under linux is almost always more difficult.
[06:44] <InfoxicatingLady> aergern : I thought the point of Linux was to get *away* from Windoze
[06:44] <DShepherd> !offtopic
[06:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:44] <Aesop> tanlaan, shoot?
[06:44] <yeft> bruenig: if sutff were to come made for linux it would be incredibly easy
[06:44] <InfoxicatingLady> Aesop , rather
[06:44] <bruenig> Gaming is harder because of the lack of support
[06:44] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Is the "symbols" font that people use for greek letters available on Linux/ Ubuntu?
[06:44] <Aesop> bruenig, all we need is Direct X....
[06:44] <Guitarhero> i hope edgy has better ati support
[06:44] <Guitarhero> or i should say ati should support edgy more
[06:44] <pvd> thats up to ATI most likely
[06:44] <tanlaan> how do i unpack tarballs, and also how to install and uninstall the programs i unpack
[06:44] <screwston> Hey guys can anyone help? I get an error when trying to complie the kernal 2.6.12 in Ubuntu 5.10. Here is the pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/71801
[06:44] <[Ex0r] > anyone know what the next ubuntu release is going to be called?
[06:44] <yeft> nvidia's got linux drivers :)
[06:45] <tanlaan> any help would be awesome
[06:45] <Aesop> InfoxicatingLady, yeah, well. I was using Lnux for years before I discovered windows and the wonders of gaming. Now I have a dual boot system and a Mac for video.
[06:45] <yeft> Edgy Eft
[06:45] <Guitarhero> or i should say ati should support edgy more
[06:45] <metamorphis> what you need tanlan
[06:45] <Aesop> tanlaan, what do you need help with?
[06:45] <bruenig> Aesop, i may be wrong here, i dont game or have many peripheral devices so i tend to have a very easy go of stuff
[06:45] <Guitarhero> oops
[06:45] <Aesop> Oh
[06:45] <Aesop> Tarballs
[06:45] <Double_D> anyone: how can i edit the preferences of an audio file so it shows up under the correct artist/album in rhythmbox?
[06:45] <Guitarhero>  anyone know how to get a shared wireless connection going?  I have a wireless card in a windows box i want it to be shared with my ubuntu comp
[06:45] <pvd> yeah Id use mac for media, linux for everything else:)
[06:45] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'tar -zxvf <filename>' for .tar.gz files
[06:45] <DShepherd> tanlaan: right click and click extract here. or double click on it
[06:45] <tanlaan> say ok
[06:45] <bruenig> Double_D, i believe cowbell does, that i have never used it though
[06:45] <emdash> ahhhh
[06:45] <emdash> ok
[06:46] <Guitarhero> i hope edgy is better at networking
[06:46] <emdash> i have to make debian/rules +x
[06:46] <tanlaan> but how do i install the program?
[06:46] <Double_D> bruenig: cowbell, is that an application, then?
[06:46] <Guitarhero> ive had nothing but nightmares with breezy and dapper
[06:46] <bruenig> 'sudo apt-get cowbell'
[06:46] <tanlaan> that i would have unpacked
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, './configure'
[06:46] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for the wiki that has the complete list of install/config commands for desktop pacckages?
[06:46] <emdash> which would have happened if i'd used dpkg-source -x on the .dsc file
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'make'
[06:46] <Double_D> bruenig: thank you much.
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, 'sudo make install'
[06:46] <tritium> Guitarhero: that's quite odd
[06:46] <Aesop> tanlaan, In that order, will install most programs
[06:46] <bruenig> apt-get install cowbell
[06:46] <bruenig> my fault
[06:46] <emdash> but because i applied the debian patch by hand it didn't make debian/rules executable
[06:46] <Guitarhero> i cant even get a simple wireless connection going with dapper, i could do it with breezy
[06:47] <NickGarvey> Guitarhero: couldn't with either
[06:47] <NickGarvey> <- suse 10.1
[06:47] <tritium> Guitarhero: which wireless card/chipset?
[06:47] <Aesop> Guitarhero, wireless on Linux is always a pain in the... What's your chipset on the card?
[06:47] <NickGarvey> ;)
[06:47] <Daveyboy> anybody have the link for the wiki that has the complete list of install/config commands for desktop pacckages?
[06:47] <Guitarhero> netgear 54mbps
[06:47] <tanlaan> thanks a bunch aesop
[06:47] <Guitarhero> thats all i know about it
[06:47] <Aesop> tanlaan, did it work?
[06:47] <bruenig> !anything
[06:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[06:48] <tanlaan> say i just need to know so i could write it down
[06:48] <Guitarhero> ive been trying to get my linksys in my windows box to be shared with the ubuntu machine but thats even harder
[06:48] <tanlaan> blah sorry for the "say"
[06:48] <NickGarvey> bruenig: its the simple things ;)
[06:48] <Aesop> tanlaan, used to MOOs?
[06:48] <tanlaan> lmao yup
[06:48] <screwston> i know lots of ppl are talking but is anyone free to troubleshoot my error with kernal compilation????
[06:48] <Aesop> tanlaan, where do you play?
[06:48] <tanlaan> im playing an awesome DBZ one
[06:48] <tanlaan> reality.nme.nu
[06:48] <tanlaan> thats the website for it
[06:48] <tanlaan> but im looking for a good MUD client
[06:48] <tritium> Guitarhero: can you find out the chipset please?
[06:49] <tanlaan> no MOO
[06:49] <Aesop> tanlaan, yeah, I know of it. didn't like it much. Check out 'GMUD' in synaptic.
[06:49] <Guitarhero> ahhh
[06:49] <tanlaan> not MOO
[06:49] <Guitarhero> yeah i think
[06:49] <tanlaan> Gnome-mud
[06:49] <tanlaan> thats what i got
[06:49] <Guitarhero> how would i go about finding the chipset
[06:49] <FireFly> I am trying to unistall my graphics driver to reinstall it, where is the unistall file locates, I have a ati card
[06:49] <tanlaan> lol
[06:49] <tanlaan> but it sucks
[06:49] <Aesop> tanlaan, better than TF =P
[06:49] <FireFly> located*
[06:49] <tanlaan> i need macros, so i can use the F keys
[06:49] <tanlaan> cause its a time based battle system
[06:49] <Aesop> Meh.
[06:49] <tanlaan> and alot simpler than aliases
[06:49] <Aesop> I play RP M*s.
[06:49] <tritium> !enter
[06:49] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:50] <tanlaan> nice
[06:50] <Aesop> Right, mencoder finished up, I've helped someone, so I'm out. Cya all.
[06:50] <tanlaan> i was just hoping to find a good mud client
[06:50] <badrinarayan> you can try shift+enter though..
[06:50] <FireFly> does anyone know how I would reinstall my graphics drivers?
[06:50] <wastrel> wah. why won't ghemicaal compile :p
[06:50] <garryF> Using symantec package manager you should be able to uninstall and reinstall in one step by marking it for reinstallation.
[06:51] <Guitarhero> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > garryF, I hope symantec isn't designing stuff for linux :)
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > synaptic*
[06:51] <[Ex0r] > is what it should be
[06:51] <garryF> See, I can never get it straight.
[06:51] <_-Ghosst-_> any idea how to get  voice on yahoo with gaim messenger ?
[06:52] <[Ex0r] > _-Ghosst-_, there's a special plug-in for it, IIRC
[06:52] <dooglus> tanlaan: is 'xmacro' of any use to you?
[06:52] <dooglus> tanlaan: or run "apt-cache search mud client" to get a list of mud clients
[06:53] <Double_D> bruenig: worked like a charm.  you da man!
[06:54] <root_> fsdf
[06:54] <root_> 
[06:54] <wastrel> !cn
[06:54] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > ...
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > how is he running xchat as root?
[06:55] <root_> #ubuntu-cn
[06:55] <[Ex0r] > doesn't the new version NOT open if you are root ?
[06:55] <root_> nihao
[06:55] <wastrel> how do you know he's running xchat
[06:55] <L-----D> root_: /j #ubuntu-cn
[06:56] <[Ex0r] > It's the only IRC client i've used that sets the username and hostname to root automatically
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > where as root_ being the alternative, because root is in use on freenode
[06:57] <_-Ghosst-_> where can i find IIRC ?
[06:57] <skavenge> alright thats enough im done with frostwire
[06:57] <L-----D> [Ex0r] : yep nice thought
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > _-Ghosst-_, IIRC means If I Recall Correctly
[06:57] <[Ex0r] > L-----D,  ?
[06:58] <[Ex0r] > Was that sarcasm?
[06:58] <garryF> Last night I advised someone to use EasyUbuntu and it whacked his system, which was about the time someone said the repositories were down. Has anyone run it with sucess since?
[06:58] <L-----D> no
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> lol
[06:58] <dooglus> _-Ghosst-_: IIRC is an acronym for "if I remember correctly"
[06:58] <[Ex0r] > L-----D, ah okay :)
[06:58] <garryF> Lol dooglus
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> ok
[06:58] <_-Ghosst-_> first time i've seen that one lol
[06:58] <dooglus> where can I find STFU?
[06:59] <[Ex0r] > !stfu
[06:59] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[06:59] <L-----D> lol
[06:59] <dooglus> heh
[06:59] <_-Ghosst-_> lmao
[06:59] <dooglus> I like how ubutu puts a period after his 'period'
[06:59] <RabidSnail> Gnash crashes firefox whenever it loads a flash file.
[06:59] <garryF> So that means you better not make your nickname one of those words if you can.
[06:59] <[Ex0r] > Who here said they were done with frostwire ?
[06:59] <RabidSnail> But it loads the files fine standalone.
[07:00] <mario8bit> how do I go about getting the bootloader working with winxp? I have winxp on a separate scsi drive from ubuntu
[07:00] <wastrel> what's gnash
[07:00] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, why are you done with frostwire ?
[07:00] <metamorphis> gnome flash
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > RabidSnail, did you use the flash player plugin that comes with firefox?
[07:01] <iamelite> IS there an easy(ish) way to clone a current ubuntu install to annother (larger) drive.
[07:01] <RabidSnail> [Ex0r] : I'm on  PPC.
[07:01] <ydong> anybody use KDevelop for C++ development?
[07:01] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, you can run norton's ghost on it
[07:01] <iamelite> Dont have ghost
[07:01] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; its crashing on me alot
[07:01] <iamelite> option 2?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, During bootup? Mines freezes once in a while loading core components, other than that itruns fine.
[07:02] <ydong> anybody use KDevelop for C++ development?
[07:02] <[Ex0r] > ydong, not me, sorry
[07:02] <raiinstorm> Does anyone know why my ntfs hard drive disappeared after I tried mounting it read-write
[07:02] <raiinstorm> after using this howto http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481
[07:02] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; freezes more often than not for me on core components and has crashed middle of running twice as well
[07:02] <Ackeubu_> hey
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > hmm, xchat doesn't automatically space words? If I go back into the sentence it erases all the text :\
[07:03] <Flippy209> ic56-7394:  you there?
[07:03] <garryF> Writing to ntfs is unsafe. You should mount it ro
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, how did you install it? .deb or from source ?
[07:03] <screwston> is there anyway i can install a preset kernel compilation instead of doing it manually?
[07:03] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; source
[07:03] <raiinstorm> garryF:  I know but whats the point of having a media hard drive if I can't add more media to it?
[07:03] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, mounting ntfs for read is very unsafe :\ The ntfs application for linux is still in beta and not very stable
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, FrostWire's site has a ubuntu .deb file
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > that's what I used to install it and it only freezes up at core components once in a while for me so I have to xkill it
[07:04] <raiinstorm> but fat32 is still really slow, isn't it?
[07:04] <DarkMageZ> raiinstorm, back-up the data and format the ddrive for a real filesystem
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, no, not at all. NTFS is just more secure
[07:04] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; ill stick with limewire i havent had problems there
[07:04] <RabidSnail> also, gnash has no sound
[07:04] <garryF> raiinstorm You can at least read from it, but linux can really mess it up writing to it, It'ss experimental, and full of bugs.
[07:04] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, limewire is going commercial :)
[07:04] <Ackeubu_> just when my ubuntu is about to show me the logginscreen it stales. and only shows a black screen with the mouse cross pointer.... How can I find error messages? before I could switch to alt+ F7 F8 F9 to get to an loggin screen. Now i cant use any of them. not evern the F1-F4.... WHat can I do to find the error?
[07:05] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  ; heh whatever works
[07:05] <raiinstorm> garryF:  so do you reccomend Fat32 then?
[07:05] <DarkMageZ> RabidSnail, where did u get gnash for ubuntu?
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, are you just using it for storage?
[07:05] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: boot into recovery mode
[07:05] <[Ex0r] > If so, just make it ext2/ext3
[07:05] <RabidSnail> DarkMangeZ:I didn't. I compiled from source.
[07:05] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: if that's an option
[07:05] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 im in the recouvery mode..
[07:06] <raiinstorm> Generally yes.  It's my media drive with my music and movies and personal videos and stuff.. oh and images which I work on using Gimp.  That kind of stuff.  Media stuff
[07:06] <FireFly> I am trying to install my driver and the last steps wants me to run  /usr/X11R6/bin/aticonfig --initial to configure the driver. It wont work, and sugestions?
[07:06] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server.
[07:06] <DarkMageZ> RabidSnail, cvs, or that release?
[07:06] <garryF> raiinstorm It seems the only alternative if you wish to share the data between both windows and linux, otherwise, ext2 or ext3 is what I reccommend.
[07:06] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, are you putting windows on it, or will it interact with any windows installs ?
[07:06] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:06] <raiinstorm> But every once in awhile school requires something WinDoze so I have to switch back over, so I hate to be a Linux only format for my media.
[07:06] <iamelite> Though possibly a stupid question. What if i log in as root. And just Copy paste the whole file system to the new drive. Would that drive boot up?
[07:06] <Flippy209> brb
[07:06] <RabidSnail> DarkMangeZ:release
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> FireFly what card do you have?
[07:06] <FireFly> AIT
[07:06] <FireFly> ati
[07:06] <Ackeubu_> ATI mobility radeon X??? ???
[07:07] <FireFly> ohj
[07:07] <raiinstorm> Ex0r:  I'd prefer not to have to.  But yes sometimes it becomes necessary as school deems it so.
[07:07] <FireFly> I think it is a 9200
[07:07] <iamelite> Anyone?
[07:07] <FireFly> Radeon
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, if the system is strictly linux, make it ext2/ext3. If it's got a windows dual boot, it can only be fat16/32 or ntfs
[07:07] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, get vmware :)
[07:07] <raiinstorm> This last year I had to have windows for my nursing program.
[07:07] <Ackeubu_> Firefly ooh. i jsut got the card for notebook to work. dont really know bout those. O
[07:07] <metamorphis> go iamelite
[07:08] <iamelite> metaporphis would that work to clone the install?
[07:08] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:08] <The_Guardian> can anyone help me configure nessus?
[07:08] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, I don't think it would. You would have to also copy the partitions and etc or else the bootloaders would be messed up
[07:08] <metamorphis> it should
[07:08] <raiinstorm> Ex0r:   thanks for the suggestion.   I'll look into it!
[07:09] <wastrel> copying using cp wouldn't work iamelite
[07:09] <garryF> ii-t.com sells a product R-Drive image that you can copy windows and linux ext, and resierfs and other formats to other drives. You can use it to clone the system. I am not sure, but they  might have a demo you can use to clone. Having looked, you can either buy it, or buy ghost.
[07:09] <wastrel> but using dd maybe
[07:09] <iamelite> Hmm
[07:09] <metamorphis> you could do a clean install then use backup discs from the first comp to put on the second
[07:09] <iamelite> well i dont wanna buy ghost
[07:09] <stasislove> hi, is anyone runnig any of steam products like cs s on wine?
[07:09] <Flippy209> Ackeubu_: do this from prompt : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:10] <garryF> Well, having been down this road, there is little last I looked in freeware backup software that can do what you want it to do. Precious little being nothing.
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > iamelite, I think they have a ghost image creator that's free at symantec's site don't they ?
[07:10] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 i have logged in to recovery mode.  But I still have to find the issue. any hint on how to find the errors I get?
[07:10] <PseudoPlacebo> I remember in the older one it was GNOME sharing or something like that.
[07:10] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server.
[07:10] <iamelite> Ill look it up
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > I know that Hiren's bootCD has a trial version of norton ghost on it, and can do it
[07:10] <[Ex0r] > if you want to grab one of those.
[07:10] <Disorganized> anyone know a good document for nameserver setup?
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > Disorganized, bind9 ? You could try the bind9 documentation
[07:11] <garryF> awesome Exor
[07:11] <The_Guardian> anyone here who can help me configure nessus?
[07:11] <metamorphis> iamelite can you make a buck up disc for the comp that you want to clone
[07:11] <stasislove> i have really bad performance in counterstrike, like ists running on software rendereing, have anyone been there?
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > garryF, a very helpful cd. Helped recover my PC numerous times.
[07:11] <iamelite> metamorphis i wouldnt know how
[07:11] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, what kind of graphics card do you have ?
[07:12] <stasislove> geforce 6800gt, and i have installed drivers and everything works fine but i have like 2 fps or something
[07:12] <metamorphis> well if you can back it up then you can do a clean install on the other comp and just use your backup to do a clone
[07:12] <garryF> [Ex0r]  Nice to know, THanks.
[07:13] <iamelite> Ok well ill just use the other hard drive for now. just ot install the other OS on
[07:13] <stasislove> |Ex0r| ^
[07:13] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , ^^
[07:13] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, how are you running counterstrike? Through an emulator? (Wine, VMWare, Crossover Office) ?
[07:13] <iamelite> But last time i reformatted my second drive. (extended 2) And booted ubuntu, it got stuck saying "Waiting for root filesystem"
[07:13] <wastrel> hah
[07:14] <PseudoPlacebo> In Dapper, how do I set up my computer as a VNC server?
[07:14] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , running through Wine
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, there's your problem.
[07:14] <Ackeubu_> Flippy209 i have never done the reconfigure and had it working when doing it.. but maybe i did it now. >)
[07:14] <metamorphis> what is it with ubuntu and the filesystems
[07:15] <iamelite> Im afraid to Reboot mycomputer now.
[07:15] <iamelite> Cause my disk is broken i think
[07:15] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , =) is there any other free alternative ? But for many people it still runs fine, there should be some fix, but i cant find anything on internet yet
[07:15] <garryF> iamelite: I had a similar issue, when I had root and boot on the same partition. It had the root in grub.list pointing to the wrong partition when it should have been the same one hdd,0
[07:15] <iamelite> it stops at loading some drivers... No more processes to run in this instance or something
[07:15] <pvd> Anyone ever thought about creating videos with like ffmpeg and making little howto videos. That would be interesting. Of course limited.
[07:15] <[Ex0r] > stasislove, check for the linux counter-strike app? IIRC, wasn't one released ?
[07:15] <metamorphis> i cant get ubuntu to even write the filesystem on my laptop but i am going to try the alternative disc
[07:16] <iamelite> garryf so i should reconfigure grub to point to the right drive?
[07:16] <DShepherd> PseudoPlacebo: system-prefs-remote desktop
[07:16] <skavenge> is there a command to reset sound?
[07:16] <linux1> hiya ubuntu keeps reseting back to the loging screen and idea why ppl
[07:17] <stasislove> [Ex0r] , "IIRC wasn't one released ?" sorry lost you there =)
[07:17] <garryF> possibly, you should look at it, hitting e to edit anything, then if it works, you can go in and edit it to make the change permanant.
[07:17] <iamelite> here goes
[07:17] <PseudoPlacebo> Sweeeet.
[07:17] <PseudoPlacebo> DShepherd: Much thanks.
[07:17] <[Ex0r] > StasIsLovE, IIRC means if I remember correctly. I think counter-strike (1.06) is available for linux.
[07:17] <DShepherd> PseudoPlacebo: much welcome
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > NOT the one that comes with steam
[07:18] <Geoffrey2> where would I find a log of the boot process?
[07:18] <[Ex0r] > the one that was used with half-life 1
[07:18] <garryF> dmesg will present you with a log
[07:18] <garryF> if you can run it.
[07:18] <shadowuser355> anyone had problems with their computer rejecting Ubuntu?
[07:18] <garryF> /var/log is where logs are kept.
[07:19] <DShepherd> shadowuser355: hehe... thats kinda funny.. not me
[07:19] <[Ex0r] > rejecting ubuntu ?
[07:19] <StasIsLovE> [Ex0r] , ok, thanks for your time, ill keep looking
[07:19] <raiinstorm> shadowuser355:  nope.  Ubuntu has improved 100 fold in the past year or so.
[07:19] <shadowuser355> a friend of mine tried installing it on his computer, about a day later, it wouldn't boot an OS at all
[07:19] <garryF> Even my etch a sketch laptop don't reject ubuntu. the fps is terrible though.
[07:19] <raiinstorm> I gave it up about a year ago after trying it a bit for Gentoo.. now I'm back..  it's so much easier to upkeep than gentoo.
[07:19] <Rug> I did a server install, Installed xdm.  XDM is not starting at boot & not giving me options (I can launch startx but not choose between the WM's I have installed)
[07:20] <Rug> raiinstorm: yeah same here
[07:20] <shadowuser355> any ideas what could be causing it to reject Ubuntu?
[07:20] <gteppel> Is it possible to simply view a specific file for a package using apt-get?
[07:20] <gteppel> I want to see the default state for a conf file for cups
[07:21] <raiinstorm> ubuntu now easily supports all of my favorite applications.  I'm loving it.  Now I just gotta access my media and get my 5 button mouse working.
[07:21] <raiinstorm> and I'll refuse to ever go back to windoze.. even for school.
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > 5 button mouse!?
[07:21] <Madpilot> !mouse
[07:21] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto - Enabling serial mouse: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SerialMouseHowto
[07:21] <garryF> Likely has something to do with were grub was put, and the contents of grub.lst
[07:21] <Madpilot> raiinstorm, ^^^ the the bot's posting for your mouse
[07:21] <[Ex0r] > What is a 5 button mouse ?
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > Is that the one with the two finger buttons, than the two on the side and the scrollwheel ?
[07:22] <wastrel> there's buttons on the side
[07:22] <raiinstorm> ExOr:  the far left and far right buttons are the forward and back buttons for your web browser.
[07:22] <[Ex0r] > hmm, that's weird
[07:22] <wastrel> gaming mice have lots of buttons
[07:22] <Flannel> raiinstorm: help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > mine's got 3 and it suits me fine :)
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > I need a new keyboard though
[07:23] <garryF> mine is just a logitech and it has six buttons and a scroll wheel.
[07:23] <raiinstorm> Madpilot:  thanks.   I'll give that a try later this week.
[07:23] <wastrel> my keyboard is something like 15 years old
[07:23] <wastrel> maybe 20
[07:23] <Rug> wastrel: nothing beats a good 10lbs keyboard.
[07:23] <[Ex0r] > wastrel, the white keyboad with grey buttons ?
[07:23] <raiinstorm> Flannel:  I think that might be the one that messed up my xorg.conf on Friday.  I think I got some part of it wrong with my ps2 mouse.  I have to try it again though.
[07:24] <garryF> I saw a keyboard from ion.com or something like that. The keys and mouse buttons are backlit. Would be great for late night computing without disturbing family.
[07:24] <wastrel> [Ex0r] :  yeah, dell 286 i believe it came with
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > yeah, lol
[07:24] <[Ex0r] > weren't those like serial connectors at the time ?
[07:24] <wastrel> no it's the round connector
[07:24] <garryF> Except for the moths kamikazeing on the monitor and keys.
[07:24] <raiinstorm> garryF:  my friend has one of those for her mac.
[07:25] <Rug> Thats an AT keyboard
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > wastrel, the mini-din or large-din ?
[07:25] <wastrel> maybe it was a 386 i don't recall :] 
[07:25] <Geoffrey2> the big round connector
[07:25] <raiinstorm> I like my split keyboard personally, good for the wrists.
[07:25] <Rug> Thats an AT keyboard
[07:25] <[Ex0r] > Yeah, Din
[07:25] <garryF> Yeah, I should check it out some day when I feel rich.
[07:25] <raiinstorm> Now if they come up with a split blacklit keyboard, then maybe.
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > I remember when mice plugged into the keyboard and the keyboard held all the drives/components
[07:26] <garryF> Yeah, I like spit ones too. My axe splits them but it kind of messes it up.
[07:26] <[Ex0r] > raiinstorm, i've got a black el-wire illuminated one. It's about dead. Alot of the keys keep sticking.
[07:26] <raiinstorm> garryF:  lol  it's better if you can only split the keys, and not the entire board.
[07:26] <Rug> [Ex0r] : hell I remember when there were NO mice
[07:27] <Geoffrey2> [Ex0r] , sounds like a Tandy to me
[07:27] <garryF> Yeah, keyboards hate coffee and soda. Ok, back to topic for me.
[07:28] <DonL> garryF: beer too, I found out
[07:29] <satanasof> buenas
[07:29] <[Ex0r] > !es
[07:29] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:29] <Aeo> When dual-booting XP and Linux, is it possible to have files accessible to both systems? What file system would I need to put on a partition?
[07:30] <garryF> DonL I had a friend who would go to a pizza parlor to study for hours every night by a zaxon game machine. It would make more and more noise, so he'd order two mugs of beer, Pour a glass down the pack of the machine to shut it up. The mug would last the machine all night.
[07:30] <wasabi_> linux can read from ntfs
[07:30] <wasabi_> and write well enough
[07:30] <Madpilot> Aeo, fat32 is the only really safe common format
[07:30] <DonL> garryF: lol. That's funny
[07:31] <Aeo> where in the Linux file hierarchy would I find my files then?
[07:31] <Aeo> in mnt?
[07:31] <garryF> DonL :)
[07:31] <skavenge> whereever you mount it
[07:31] <wasabi_> You'll have to mount it manually.
[07:31] <Aeo> how would I do that?
[07:31] <Aeo> or is that during partitioning?
[07:31] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Aeo about mount
[07:32] <Aeo> thanks
[07:32] <q_a_z_steve> where is the grub.conf file when I'm not in linux? or when I don't have that part. mounted?
[07:33] <garryF> /boot/grub/grub.lst
[07:33] <new_me> so i ran cron and created a file in /etc/crontab   what "startup"
[07:33] <wasabi_> I'm not aware of a grub.conf file.
[07:33] <new_me>  script should i use to make sure it runs everyboot?
[07:33] <DonL> Must admit, I never had much luck with dual booting, so I gave up a long time ago. It didn't take too long to find out I didn't need that other os anyway.
[07:34] <q_a_z_steve> should be /etc/grub.conf according to this How-To dual boot Win2k and grub.
[07:34] <wasabi_> Not in Ubuntu. /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:35] <durt> when playing some games i cant alt-tab, so how can i get out of them to do other stuff, other than quitting?
[07:36] <[Ex0r] > alright, time for me to get off to bed
[07:36] <[Ex0r] > I've helped about 4 people tonight.
[07:36] <garryF> Good job [Ex0r] . Gnight.
[07:36] <DonL> That's good exor
[07:37] <raiinstorm> random question..  does anyone in here use Skype?
[07:37] <DonL> raiinstorm: yes, I do
[07:37] <mthode> as do I
[07:37] <DShepherd> durt:   desktop shortcut maybe?
[07:37] <shadeofgrey> hey
[07:37] <q_a_z_steve> so I need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ? How do I change this (I don't want to screw this up) to have a mention of Win2k that is actually hda1 where ubuntu is hda1 5, 7 8
[07:38] <raiinstorm> DonL:  Does that work kind of like direct connect with AIM.  Where a friend using windows could connect to me, plug in his guitar, and I could hear him play his guitar through skype?
[07:38] <raiinstorm> I'm searching for a program that will let me do that because GAIM does not.
[07:38] <DonL> raiinstorm: I've only used it so far for voice contact. I know files can be transferred but are a bit slow
[07:39] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, read the file. It's pretty self explanitory.
[07:39] <CajunTechie> Hello everyone. I have a quick question: I need to use the Ubuntu LiveCD to give a software demo for a web app that I've developed. Where can I go to learn more about how to modify the ISO to automatically start the webserver and open the browser to a specific localhost page when booted?
[07:39] <wasabi_> It's even filled with examples.
[07:39] <garryF> Hda1 would be hda,0 in grubspeak.
[07:39] <DonL> raiinstorm: Don't know about live music or video. Sorry
[07:40] <wasabi_> hd0,0 actually.
[07:40] <raiinstorm> DonL:   hmm  okay I'll just keep trying to convince my stubborn friend to download it and try it with me.  lol
[07:40] <garryF> Oh yeah, Thanks wasabi_
[07:40] <raiinstorm> DonL:  it's okay.  Just thought I'd see if anyone knew.
[07:40] <shadeofgrey> hey does anygbody know if its illegal for me to staart a help website for ubuntu that has ubuntu in the address?
[07:41] <rexykik> !nvidia
[07:41] <DonL> raiinstorm: My brother lives a short distance away, but in another zone so it's long distance. We can chat for as long as we like, using Skype. So that's cool
[07:41] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:41] <rock-lobster> shadeofgrey, there already www.ubuntuguide.org
[07:41] <q_a_z_steve> k thanks. that's what I thought. Can I make those changes from inside DSL?
[07:41] <raiinstorm> DonL:   Definitely.  I could talk to my friends in Canada that way too if I wanted to then.
[07:41] <wasabi_> DSL?
[07:41] <rock-lobster> shadeofgrey, so im guessin its possible with/without permission
[07:41] <rexykik> Damn Small Linux
[07:41] <DonL> raiinstorm: are you in North america?
[07:41] <raiinstorm> DonL:  yes.  Minnesota
[07:41] <wasabi_> If you can edit the file system, you can change the files.
[07:42] <raiinstorm> does that cost more then?
[07:42] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ Damn Small Linux. I'm in windows using QEMU right now and chatting using nIRC.
[07:42] <rock-lobster> raiinstorm, you can use ekiga
[07:42] <rock-lobster> raiinstorm, it works on h323 and SIP
[07:42] <DonL> Till the end of this year, Skype has made SkypeOut available to us for free. That means you can call from your computer to any regular phone in North America and talk for free.
[07:43] <wasabi_> You'd be better off just booting into linux and changing it.
[07:43] <wasabi_> If you can give qemu raw access to the linux fs, then yeah, you can probably mount it.
[07:43] <q_a_z_steve> btw I don't know how but this thing figured out my wireless (or superimposed it) really well - i.e. Cake walk. And this is a G card!
[07:43] <DonL> rock-lobster: yes. I've looked at ekiga. Looks good. Got to check it out
[07:44] <raiinstorm> rock-lobster:  Oh interesting.  I'm not familiar with that one.  TY for the suggestion.  I'll look into it.
[07:44] <xenex> Anyone know how to fix this? http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6320/guildwars9um.png
[07:44] <wasabi_> qemu doesn't figure out wireless.
[07:44] <garryF> wasabi_ I remember trying wasabi in a chinese restaurant. I thought it was regular horse randish and took a huge dollop on my meat. I felt like I was snoring lava!
[07:44] <wasabi_> garryF, Japanese.
[07:44] <q_a_z_steve> One thing about that is I don't have hda1 plugged in right now if I do boot to ubuntu, but I guess that doesn't matter.
[07:45] <ronnnn> i really need help with my wireless..i looked all on ubuntu forums...and i have a broadcom bcm4318 54g, and i dont know at all how to get it to work..PLEASE HELP!
[07:45] <garryF> Yeah, it fried my meory.
[07:45] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, I don't follow.
[07:45] <garryF> !wifi > ronnnn
[07:45] <ronnnn> huh?
[07:45] <ronnnn> i looked at that before
[07:45] <ronnnn> nothing worked
[07:46] <skavenge> you may need ndiswrapper
[07:46] <ronnnn> probrably, i tried that...i'm really new to linux..and i dont know how to get it started
[07:46] <garryF> Scads of folks have been having issues with wireless in dapper. You are not alone.
[07:46] <DonL> Sorry I can't help, ronnnn. I 'm wired. Still don't trust the wireless stuff. Call me old fashioned
[07:46] <skavenge> took me three  days to get mine working heh
[07:47] <ronnnn> wow
[07:47] <garryF> I call ye lucky
[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ something did because I'm wireless for sure. my IP is 10.0.2.15 anyway... In order to boot I have linux think it's the master, and I'm going to edit c:\boot.ini in windows to still have controll but have the option to boot to linux on the other hdd.
[07:47] <garryF> ouch! Three days.
[07:47] <q_a_z_steve> two separate HDD.
[07:47] <Geoffrey2> and from what I've been reading, an overwhelming majority of wireless problems are anyone using a Broadcom chipset
[07:47] <raiinstorm> who linked me to the 5 button mouse howto for a PS2 mouse?  I forgot to save the link!!!
[07:47] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, Qemu uses a user space NAT.
[07:47] <ronnnn> yeah...
[07:47] <wasabi_> Linux never needs to be the "master" to boot.
[07:48] <DonL> It's late for me.. Good night, all
[07:48] <wasabi_> Only Windows has that silly problem. :0
[07:48] <garryF> !mouse
[07:48] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:48] <skavenge> funny as it is i did a clean install and had to go buy a usb wireless nic till i got it fixed heh
[07:48] <yoshiznit123> hi everyone, i installed added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[07:48] <raiinstorm> garryF:  thank you thank you.
[07:48] <q_a_z_steve> I know what you mean but if windows doesn't see it it does. I have to unplug my IDE.
[07:48] <garryF> welcome
[07:48] <wasabi_> Put linux on the second HD. Slace.
[07:48] <wasabi_> slave
[07:48] <ronnnn> i like so need help with this wireless..can i chat with someone in seperate chat about it?
[07:48] <DShepherd> nite guys
[07:49] <oni-dracula> does anyone know of a program for linux that can be used to split large .mp3 files?
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> it is.
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> then I need to set up the dual.
[07:49] <rock-lobster> oni-dracula, audacity
[07:49] <garryF> Man, I'd love to help ye but I dunno anyting about wireless except it made my hair fall out.
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> that's where I was told to edit grub and boot.ini
[07:49] <ronnnn> thansk anyway garryf
[07:49] <oni-dracula> rock out, rock-lobster
[07:49] <q_a_z_steve> hang on I'll get you a link.
[07:49] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: and the fragments still be playable?
[07:50] <garryF> ronnnn Good luck with that, There is bound to be someone who can help ye along eventually
[07:50] <oni-dracula> one would assume, KaiserSuse
[07:50] <farous> ronnnn: if you want you can speak in the main room and people will see how they can help
[07:50] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, All you need to do to set it up right is boot linux with both HD's in, then write a new MBR to the master.
[07:50] <Dial_tone> there's something depressing about not being able to decide which is more important. a 20" LCD or a 32" flat screen tv.
[07:50] <Geoffrey2> well, it looks like none of the logs kick in early enough in the boot process for me to see what's happening....almost right after the kernel is unpacked, I'm getting some error that says "unable to allocate"..but it flies by so fast I can never read enough to know if it's something I should be worried about or doing something to fix...
[07:50] <ronnnn> Whats the main room ?
[07:50] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: X or console?
[07:50] <q_a_z_steve> If I right a new MBR ten Win2k has issues.
[07:50] <wasabi_> q_a_z_steve, That's fine, you can get Win2K working with Grub.
[07:50] <oni-dracula> KaiserSuse, X is preferable...I'm a winders convert
[07:51] <wasabi_> You just need to be in Linux to set it up.
[07:51] <farous> ronnnn: you are in it so what is your card type. i only have experience with broadcom (probl) and intell
[07:51] <ronnnn> broadcom 4318 54g Airforce...the dreaed one that dosnt work
[07:51] <KaiserSuse> oni-dracula: as rock-lobster said, try audacity
[07:51] <q_a_z_steve> how do I paste into qemu?
[07:51] <oni-dracula> KaiserSuse, roger that
[07:51] <wasabi_> Beats me.
[07:51] <wasabi_> Don't know why qemu is in the picture. ;)
[07:52] <q_a_z_steve> www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:52] <farous> ronnnn: did you try the bcm43xx drivers they are in the repos. i never managed to work the ndiswarapper on dapper. on breezy it was easy
[07:52] <q_a_z_steve> I think that is it.
[07:52] <ronnnn> how do i get those in the repos?> i'm totally new to this
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> okay
[07:52] <farous> !tell ronnnn about repos
[07:52] <farous> ronnnn: follow ubotu link on how to add extra repos
[07:52] <shadeofgrey> doies anybody in here have a macbook pro with the upgraded ati video card?
[07:53] <q_a_z_steve> top page from google.com search Ed's Software Guide on Linux
[07:53] <wasabi_> Don't really know why you're showing me that.
[07:53] <mrproper> How can I get divx support in xine?
[07:53] <xKintaro> OMG WORLD READABLE HOMEDIRCETORIES
[07:53] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, i added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[07:53] <farous> ronnnn: crimsun had special repos for broadcom. do not have the link to them now though sorry
[07:53] <xKintaro> LOLOLOLOL
[07:53] <xKintaro> OMG OUTDATED PACKAGES WITH SEVERE SECURITY ISSUES
[07:53] <xKintaro> LOLOLOL
[07:54] <polpak> !ops
[07:54] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:54] <linux1> hiya i cant get the live cd to run on my penitum d830 crashed out all tehtime tryed the safe install as well
[07:54] <q_a_z_steve> brb
[07:54] <farous> polpak: there is ignore command too quite helpfull /ignore
[07:54] <Seveas> Madpilot, to the rescue 
[07:54] <xenex> Anyone good with video drivers knowledge, please see my query. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1182340
[07:54] <Diablito> some body use Debian sarge??
[07:54] <Seveas> Diablito, #debian
[07:55] <polpak> farous: I'm familiar with it.. thx
[07:55] <farous> :)
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> can someone help me with getting Breezy Badger to configure sound?
[07:55] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: what sound isn't working?
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> pretty much
[07:55] <Pharaoh_Atem> it wont recognize it at all
[07:55] <yoshiznit123> ...anybody?
[07:56] <Pharaoh_Atem> its a Compaq Presario 5190
[07:56] <Diablito> Seveas, jajajjaja
[07:56] <Diablito> jajajjaja
[07:56] <Ademan> so uh... how can i play midi files?
[07:56] <Pharaoh_Atem> with a ESS onboard sound
[07:56] <Diablito> just play
[07:56] <Diablito> jajajaj
[07:56] <raiinstorm> Okay guys if I'm working with a 6 button mouse.. would this be wrong?  (according to the HOWTO)
[07:56] <raiinstorm>   Option          "Buttons"               "7"     Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"
[07:56] <Seveas> Ademan, try timidity+freepats
[07:56] <raiinstorm>         Option          "ButtonMapping"         "1 2 3 6 7"
[07:56] <Ademan> thanks Seveas
[07:56] <Diablito> Ubuntu its for dummies
[07:56] <KaiserSuse> Does anyone knows how big would an ubuntu mirror (i386 only) would be? (including main, restricted, universe and multiverse)
[07:56] <Diablito> jejej
[07:56] <raiinstorm> Should it not be   Buttons  "5"?
[07:56] <ronnnn> i'm gonna go crazy...i need this to work
[07:57] <Seveas> !mouse > raiinstorm
[07:57] <Ademan> ronnnn: ?
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have been slaving away at the compaq for hours
[07:57] <wasabi_> KaiserSuse, Probably a few hundred gb
[07:57] <ronnnn> broadcom 54g 4318 on drapper
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> just installing Breezy badger
[07:57] <raiinstorm> I'm already looking at !mouse!!
[07:57] <Pharaoh_Atem> Dapper Drake wouldn't even load
[07:57] <yoshiznit123> ...none of you apt gurus know? :-)
[07:57] <rexykik> !xorg
[07:57] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:57] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: Why didnt you do dapper?
[07:57] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: why wouldn't dapper install?
[07:57] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: whoa... what do you mean?
[07:57] <bthornton> Hey all: I've got two NICs in my desktop PC, one of which goes to my Internet router and the other is connected to my laptop via a crossover cable.  What I want is to have the laptop get its internet through the desktop.  Will I need to setup iptables rules in order to do this, or is it sufficient just to enable ip_forwarding?
[07:58] <polpak> bthornton: you need to set up NAT in iptables
[07:58] <ronnnn> anyone think i will ever get the broadcom 4318 54g working???
[07:58] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: so... the installer CD wouldn't run? once you installed it wouldnt boot? what?
[07:58] <rexykik> bthornton, you'll need to configure your NAT
[07:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan/polpak: dapper would not install in any form, it just hung
[07:58] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: at what point?
[07:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> startup
[07:58] <Daveyboy> have everything configured on my dapper except cant play any windows media player files
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> around the time after kernel starts loading ubuntu splash
[07:59] <Daveyboy> flash java okay
[07:59] <polpak> !tell Daveyboy about restricted
[07:59] <rexykik> !mplayer > Daveyboy
[07:59] <efox> Ihey
[07:59] <bthornton> polpak: That's kinda what I thought.  Is there any graphical way to do that in Dapper, or at least some default profiles that I can enable--short of manually writing my own rules from scratch?
[07:59] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: so the install cd? or after you installed everything and tried to boot? or what? be more specific,    so... was this with the livecd or after install?
[07:59] <polpak> Daveyboy: install the win32 codecs and totem-xine
[07:59] <polpak> Daveyboy: should be fine
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, i tried both
[07:59] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: ok yes, but when did it freeze?
[07:59] <kditty> i have a problem i need help with, i messed up my ubuntu partition and it wouldnt boot, so i used a rescue disk... now ubuntu seems to boot fine but it asks me for a password and it will not accept the password i have been using for months now
[07:59] <ronnnn> can someone privately im me about my wireless problem?
[07:59] <q_a_z_steve> wasabi_ I'll be back in if don't get it working.
[07:59] <efox> ive seen screenshots of terminals actually part of the desktop. How do i do/get that ?
[07:59] <polpak> Pharaoh_Atem: you should be able to disable the framebuffer
[07:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> when it loads modules
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> but Breezy Badger loaded just fine
[08:00] <yoshiznit123> hey everybody, (sorry i asked earlier and nobody knew)...  i added edgy repos to try out a couple programs, and now i'd like to downgrade back to dapper only... is there a way to make sure all packages have versions that match those in the current repos?
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> everything works EXCEPT sound
[08:00] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: but was it an install CD or actually booting AFTER you installed?
[08:00] <Daveyboy> polpak, whats the package for win32 codecs
[08:00] <yoshiznit123> like a simple apt command?
[08:00] <Ademan> where it frose
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, install CD
[08:00] <polpak> Daveyboy: go to the restricted formats wiki
[08:00] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: hrm, laptop?
[08:00] <polpak> Daveyboy: it's linked there
[08:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, desktop
[08:01] <ronnnn> HELP!!!!
[08:01] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&tool=softwareCategory&product=93127&
[08:01] <Ademan> Pharaoh_Atem: wow, that's unheard of... lol... i'm willing to bet money if you re-torrent the iso and burned it again it would work, happened to me with a debian install cd
[08:01] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, well i already spent 3 hours installing Ubuntu Breezy Badger
[08:01] <efox> can anyone give me a google keyword for how to make the terminal part of the desktop
[08:02] <Ademan> haha, well, i guess that's good enough reason to stick with it
[08:02] <Ademan> and upgrading is easy as pie
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> if im gonna replace it, im replacing it with Fedora
[08:02] <pppoe_dude> efox, are you using gnome or kde?
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> i really want to use Ubuntu because it is lightweight and it has centralized package distribution
[08:02] <Ademan> heh... don't do that...
[08:02] <spikeb> why fedora?
[08:02] <efox> pppoe_dude: gno,e
[08:02] <efox> pppoe_dude: gnome*
[08:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> im a redhat man
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> my first distro was Red Hat 6
[08:03] <kditty> any suggestions?
[08:03] <spikeb> ahh ok
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i just prefer it
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> efox, gdesklets
[08:03] <ronnnn> i NEED help with broadcom 4318!
[08:03] <efox> pppoe_dude: thanks
[08:03] <pppoe_dude> efox, closest thing i can think of
[08:03] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: mine was 5.2 :)
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> but my family is gonna use this computer, so i have to use something simple
[08:03] <efox> pppoe_dude: ill look furthur into it..i just needed a start
[08:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> and I just chose Ubuntu
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, eventually, i used nearly all the versions of RHL
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> i even used some of the RHEL
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> i became distasteful at Red Hat for cancelling RHL
[08:04] <Tmob> anyone here use ubuntu on a laptop?
[08:04] <polpak> Tmob: I do
[08:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> I did
[08:04] <Tmob> what are the CPU temperatures like usually?
[08:04] <Tmob> i'm seeing 52C
[08:05] <gdb> My first distribution was Slackware 2.0.
[08:05] <Tmob> is that ok?
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> normal for me
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: no idea
[08:05] <gdb> That was in 1994.
[08:05] <Ademan> hehe, slackware...
[08:05] <spikeb> gdb: awesome
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: I've never checked the temp
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> well, Slackware is oldest one
[08:05] <ronnnn> can anyone actually help me with my problem, i really need immediate help
[08:05] <gdb> I'm sick of the Fedora treadmill so I'm using Ubuntu now.
[08:05] <Ademan> the oldest still in circulation anyways
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> I used Slackware briefly
[08:05] <Tmob> well i can't keep the laptop on my lap.. too hot
[08:05] <Tmob> so just curious..
[08:05] <polpak> Tmob: that's pretty common
[08:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> Tmob, is it a Compaq?
[08:05] <Ademan> Tmob: mine's that way too... it was like that with windows too though
[08:06] <polpak> Tmob: generally there are vents on the underside, so you're probably blocking the exhaust
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> mine was always doing that
[08:06] <Tmob> Ademan, oh
[08:06] <spikeb> yeah, too many laptops are not actually cool enough to use on a lap
[08:06] <Tmob> polpak, nop.. vent is ok..
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> if i tilted it in a unconfortable position, then it cools nicely
[08:06] <yoshiznit123> does anyone know an apt command that can downgrade all packages with versions higher than those in sources.list
[08:06] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, nop.. its a dell d410
[08:06] <Tmob> little laptop ;)
[08:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> ahh
[08:07] <gdb> yoshiznit123: No, what you did is likely to be irrepairable.
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> well, Compaqs are notorious for overheating in Linux or Windows
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> usually Windows ;)
[08:07] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, you mean they are notorious for overheating ;)
[08:07] <spikeb> last laptop i had was a g3 ibook, that was easily cool enough to use on the lap
[08:07] <MadMerC> hi guys my vid card has just shat itself and i've had to boot with the onboard but i cant get into gnome or anything can anyone help me set it up so that it uses my onboard now ??
[08:07] <Tmob> spikeb, yea i guess PPCs aren't as heat producint as intel/adm
[08:07] <Tmob> amd
[08:07] <spikeb> MadMerC: sure
[08:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> Tmob, not quite, my Compaq laptop doesnt overheat as much under Linux
[08:07] <bthornton> Anybody know of a graphical firewall (iptables) config tool Dapper?  Or at least some default rulesets so I don't have to go manually write my own iptables rules into a script?
[08:08] <spikeb> MadMerC: in the console, type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:08] <pppoe_dude> bthornton, firestarter
[08:08] <yoshiznit123> gdb, its obviously not irrepairable, i only upgraded like 10 packages
[08:08] <Tmob> Pharaoh_Atem, oh cool
[08:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, system-config-securitylevel
[08:08] <bthornton> pppoe_dude: Thanks
[08:08] <bthornton> Pharaoh_Atem: thanks
[08:08] <spikeb> Tmob: yeah, or via processors. those are cool, as well, but hard to find a laptop that doesnt suck with one in it
[08:08] <gdb> yoshiznit123: Then remove / reinstall those, perhaps.  I assume you have a list of them.
[08:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> i saw something interesting, a bunch of system-config-* tools available for ubuntu
[08:08] <bthornton> PHaroah_Atem: I think you're thinking Fedora :)
[08:08] <MadMerC> spikeb thanx for that bbs hopefully lol
[08:08] <bthornton> or...
[08:08] <spikeb> MadMerC: good luck!
[08:09] <majd> hi, i'm trying to set ubuntu and i want to set it up as a server and mount it on my mac as a volume so that i can use it in my programs as a file server. I failed at accomplishing this feat. Nonetheless, I got my mac to share folders with my windows box and my macbook
[08:09] <yoshiznit123> gdb, thats the problem, i don't have the list. is there a way i can find those that are higher versions? then apt-get install package=version should do the trick
[08:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, sndconfig is a redhat tool, yet it is in Debian and many other distros
[08:09] <Tmob> haha
[08:09] <bthornton> Pharaoh_Atem: That's interesting, I didn't know about that.  I do know that Fedora has a whole suite of system-config-* tools, but there's nothing by default like that on my Dapper install.
[08:09] <Tmob> thats like saying you want a buick which doesn't suck
[08:09] <Tmob> its not gonna happen
[08:09] <spikeb> either that or i'm buying another PPC ibook :)
[08:09] <spikeb> Tmob: haha
[08:09] <gdb> yoshiznit123: See, that's just it, I've never heard of that functionality in apt / dpkg / deselect / etc. :-/  You might be able to figure something out using the filters in synaptic.
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> bthorton, because system-config-soundcard is separate from install, sound configuration is a lot easier
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> however, that is on Fedora
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> i wish someone would make the package compatible with Ubuntu
[08:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it desparately needs system-config-soundcard
[08:11] <pppoe_dude> majd, im unsure, but sshfs might work on macs... they have sourcecode
[08:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, have you tried using apt to install DEBs on Fedora?
[08:11] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: i don't think so
[08:12] <majd> pppoe_dude, the biggest functionality i'm looking for is to be able to add music to my itunes library from my mac, and do web development on the mac while the files are all on the ubuntu
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, it actually works if you build dpkg on there as well
[08:12] <spikeb> Pharaoh_Atem: i used it once on some rpm distro, but i think that was before fedora existed heh
[08:12] <ronnnn> ARRHHHGGGGG HELP ME
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> spikeb, Fedora Core 1-4 has apt-rpm
[08:12] <pppoe_dude> ronnnn, did u try #wireless?
[08:12] <majd> pppoe_dude, so ubuntu would be just a file server that the apps can access
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> fc5 has no apt yet
[08:12] <spikeb> it was quite a while ago that i used it
[08:12] <Pharaoh_Atem> apt-rpm will need to be rewritten for it
[08:12] <spikeb> i liked yum though
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> majd, im unfamiliar with a filesystem that can be remotely mounted on a mac... although there probably is one
[08:13] <gdb> It's a mistake to use apt on Fedora.  And yes, Fedora does have apt.
[08:13] <majd> pppoe_dude, i'll do some more research
[08:13] <majd> thanks for trying anyway
[08:13] <pppoe_dude> np
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> how come ubuntu doesnt offer a soundcard config tool anymore
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> i remember it used to be in the repository
[08:13] <skavenge> i was running fc4 before this, i must say i prefer ubuntu
[08:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> its not there anymore
[08:14] <spikeb> probably premature confidence in autodetection ;)
[08:14] <gdb> Being the "blessed" utility, it's best to use yum and yum repositories on Fedora.  You'll find that if you move outside of using Core, Extras, and Livna, "there be dragons here."  But that's a Fedora discussion.
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> gdb, Livna is a dragon itself
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> never works for me
[08:14] <spikeb> heh
[08:14] <spikeb> worked fine for me :)
[08:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> i use RPMForge instead
[08:14] <gdb> Anvil does his best, but he's a bit cantakerous.
[08:15] <gdb> [Jef]  is just a jerk.
[08:15] <Healot> yum tum
[08:15] <spikeb> HEH
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> i actually like apt
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> it doesnt take as much power to utilize it to update the system
[08:15] <gdb> Liking it and having it be the "best suited tool" are different things. ;-)
[08:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> but FC4 has no equivilient repos for apt
[08:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> does anyone know where i can get a tool to configure soundcard?
[08:16] <Healot> !offtopic
[08:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:16] <gdb> What does that mean?  You can use apt-get on Fedora just fine.  It's not really recommended.
[08:16] <Seveas> gdb, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:16] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[08:17] <gdb> Seveas: You know, I get that a lot for participating in discussion that other people have started.  I'd respectfully request that futher pointers to #ubuntu-offtopic (where I am idling already) be directed to those responsible for said off topic discussions. :-P
[08:19] <gdb> What I'd like to find is a good explaination of what each step is doing when apt is installing things.  Anyone have a pointer?
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem_> arrgh
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem_> i hate this flaky wifi
[08:19] <gdb> There's pleanty of "this is how to use it" but none of "this is what it's doing."
[08:19] <Pharaoh_Atem> there we go
[08:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> gdb, fc4 Extras has no apt-rpm support
[08:21] <pvd> are Memory Type Range Registers and Real Time Clock enabled in the ubuntu kernel by default?
[08:22] <poyaochuang> I would like to make music with edubuntu
[08:22] <Healot> MMTR and RTC options are enabled
[08:22] <Healot> !mp3
[08:22] <pvd> Oh ok
[08:22] <Laney> np: R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
[08:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:22] <jbcnle> what is meant by "add the following: deb http://www.xapian.org/debian dapper main  deb-src http://www.xapian.org/debian dapper main" I'm new to debian packages - installing xapian
[08:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> there has GOT to be a way to fix ESS sound board problem
[08:22] <Daveyboy> i already have the PLF repository installed and updated, installed all mutimedia support including latest win32 codecs, except wiindows media player wont run in firefox, any ideas?
[08:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> modprobe doesnt work
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> says device doesnt exist
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> its been 7 hours since Ubuntu was installed
[08:23] <KenSentMe> !tell jbcnle about sources
[08:23] <pvd> Daveyboy, you need something like mplayer plugin to watch a video like that I believe
[08:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i still havent gotten DVD ready
[08:24] <Daveyboy> pvd, okay
[08:24] <jbcnle> Yes i'm certain that it is the source
[08:24] <pvd> I think its called mozilla-mplayer
[08:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> Ademan, do you know how to force the system to probe for ISA devices?
[08:24] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:24] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:25] <Pharaoh_Atem> !info system-config-soundcard
[08:25] <ubotu> Package system-config-soundcard does not exist in dapper
[08:25] <Pharaoh_Atem> !info sndconfig
[08:25] <ubotu> Package sndconfig does not exist in dapper
[08:25] <Ademan> hahah nope, sorry, i'm pretty bad with hardware, i had some problems with my ACPI and i was screwed haha (that was with debian sarge)
[08:25] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[08:25] <hyphenated> any ubuntu developers/package maintainers around?
[08:26] <gdb> If you're looking to install DVD, mp3, etc, support on Ubuntu, I can't recommend EasyUbuntu enough.
[08:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, that will configure ALSA?
[08:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> does EasyUbuntu use Debian packages?
[08:27] <poyaochuang> does edubuntu support dual processor exon 1.7ghz?
[08:27] <Pharaoh_Atem> or does it build the files?
[08:27] <raiinstorm> I got my 5 button mouse to work.  I'm in heaven.
[08:27] <EricTheMidget> never heard of easyubuntu
[08:27] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: not just alsa, oss also
[08:27] <gdb> Pharaoh_Atem: It uses Ubuntu packages.
[08:27] <Healot> edubuntu
[08:27] <Pharaoh_Atem> brb, going to run the reconfig command
[08:27] <gdb> Pharaoh_Atem: From Universe and Multiverse (sort of the "Extras" of Ubuntu).
[08:27] <Ademan> easyubuntu is just a helper program for installing packages
[08:27] <Daveyboy> pvd, how do i add the plugin for mplayer into firefox?
[08:28] <poyaochuang> does edubuntu support dual processor xeon 1.7ghz? thank you
[08:28] <pvd> Daveyboy, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[08:28] <jbcnle> KenSentMe can you point the right place to read on the ubuntuguide ?
[08:28] <Daveyboy> pvd, dapper
[08:28] <pvd> ok, when you install mplayer-plugin it should just work
[08:29] <gdb> poyaochuang: Yes, it supports everything Ubuntu does.  It's simply a different desktop with a modified set of applications for use in education.  It's normal Ubuntu under the hood.
[08:29] <pvd> or mozilla-mplayer
[08:29] <pvd> keep forgetting which one it is
[08:29] <pvd> lo
[08:29] <Daveyboy> pvd, apt-get install mplayer-plugin?
[08:29] <poyaochuang> does ubuntu support dual processor?
[08:29] <pvd> Daveyboy, I believe its apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:30] <Daveyboy> pvd, good memory
[08:30] <pvd> lol not really, but thanks:)
[08:30] <poyaochuang> does ubuntu support dual processor or dualcore?
[08:30] <pvd> you can also install java and flash through there as well.
[08:32] <pvd> poyaochuang, I dont think it does completely. the best thing for dual processing would be a source based distro most likely, or if you enable SMP in your kernel
[08:32] <pvd> is SMP enabled in ubuntu kernel?
[08:32] <Daveyboy> pvd, thanks that worked
[08:32] <pvd> np
[08:33] <cyberslug> Greetings All: Is there a way to fix a bug in Ubuntu's nautilus: If you scroll down to the bottom of a large number of files (eg. /usr/lib), labels do not show, and are generally artifacted?
[08:34] <Norum> Hey. Can someone help me with a firewire drive?
[08:35] <jbcnle> I'm trying to build for Ubunu from the following instructions - http://www.xapian.org/download.php - I'm interested to know what the commands are to get this working - they've obviously gone out of their way to package for ubuntu but nothing I do will get it to install so far
[08:37] <bthornton> I'm trying to setup a dhcp server on my network, but when I "/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start", it just exits with "fail".  /var/log/messages doesn't say anything about the error.  Anybody know how I can troubleshoot this?
[08:37] <Minty> can some please explique how I can find my password for these forums as I have lost it and have no iudea what it is, on the fiorums thay talk about password but I can see no way how to retrieve on
[08:38] <dodgyville> Hello
[08:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> back again
[08:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, it didnt work
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> it still refuses to recognize the ISA onboard chip
[08:39] <hyphenated> bthornton: cd /var/log; ls -lrt (after doing the start) and see which log was the most recent one(s). look in there
[08:39] <dodgyville> I just installed ubuntu dapper on a laptop. However, it won't log in to a gnome session. The gdm login screen appears fine, and I can login as a failsafe session, but when I try to use gnome it dumps back to the login screen.
[08:39] <dodgyville> Any suggestions?
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> bad ISO
[08:39] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: what's the device anyways?
[08:39] <Healot> !hardware
[08:39] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> sound card
[08:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> ESS
[08:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> 18xx
[08:40] <bthornton> hyphenated: ahh, it's in "syslog".  This must be a Debian thing, since I'm used to everything getting dumped in "messages" in Fedora.  Thanks a lot!
[08:41] <Healot> ISA bs, Pharaoh_Atem?
[08:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> dunno
[08:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> i dont know how to get into BIOS, there is no message saying which key to press
[08:41] <Healot> why you said it's ISA?
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> because ESS made ISA onboard chips
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> and it was listed on Compaq as ISA
[08:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> and it doesnt show up in lspci
[08:43] <Healot> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards >> no ISA card avail
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/hardware/OldSoundCard
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> mostly about ISA cards
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> i followed it, but stopped after the first step
[08:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> because it didnt work
[08:46] <Healot> haven't you finish all the steps?
[08:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> it first is supposed to detect the module
[08:47] <Pharaoh_Atem> modprobe didnt work
[08:47] <Pharaoh_Atem> it said that the device didnt exist
[08:47] <igoens> Hello everyone ....
[08:47] <Healot> which module?
[08:47] <noiz777> hello, does anyone here has an ubuntu server/desktop sharing the internet conection to your lan??
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, i ran "sudo modprobe snd-es18xx"
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> and that failed
[08:48] <igoens> I've a problem with my IrDA device .... Ubuntu doesn't seem to recognize it. I'm using Compaq Armada E 500 Notebook. It says that IrDA chip is SMCC (But I don;t know the model)
[08:48] <Healot> type "lsmod" Pharaoh_Atem?
[08:48] <Healot> flush it to pastebin.com
[08:48] <Pharaoh_Atem> nothing appears
[08:49] <kevin> dumb question but how do you find out what distro your running (for a script that will be running on multiple pcs) ; uname only returns kernel infos
[08:49] <Pharaoh_Atem> kevin, some distros add distro name into kernel version
[08:49] <Hobbsee> kevin: cat /etc/issue or lsb_release -a
[08:49] <Healot> lsb_release << show distro info
[08:49] <judah> check for /etc/lsb-release
[08:49] <Healot> add "-a"
[08:49] <kevin> thx Pharaoh_Atem & Hobbsee
[08:49] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, use lsmod -a | grep snd?
[08:50] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: no output on "lsmod", don't grep anything yet
[08:50] <Pharaoh_Atem> oh ok
[08:50] <Healot> paste the output to pastebin.com
[08:50] <Healot> gimme the address
[08:51] <Healot> !paste
[08:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:52] <Atomic_UE> I noticed that when you install Firestarter that there is also a firestarter service. Everything I've read about firestarter says that you must start the firestarter (gui) tool for the firewall to "start". Is this actually true? or can I just start the firestarter service, and not the gui tool?
[08:52] <Healot> Atomic_UE, no...
[08:53] <Healot> you can save the rules that firestarter made, and load it at startup without firestarter
[08:54] <Atomic_UE> so what is the firestarter service for?
[08:54] <n00b> mongo
[08:55] <Healot> better to use the service... i was saying you can manually load the iptables rules manually
[08:55] <moruan> hey guys , is there any J2se Api for Linux edition ?
[08:56] <sikamedia> ls
[08:56] <noiz777> does anyone knows how to share an internet connection?
[08:56] <Healot> moruan: the API is for Java, not OS specific... did you mean the documentation?
[08:56] <moruan> yeah
[08:57] <moruan> not chm
[08:57] <Healot> moruan: download the documentation from java.sun.com. It should be HTML files compressed into a zip file
[08:57] <_nano_> hi, is there a way to bypass the gnome keyring password prompt while using the networkmanager (nm-applet)?
[08:58] <moruan> i'll try , thanks Healot
[09:00] <gore_> hello fellas
[09:00] <gdb> moruan: What do you mean?
[09:00] <gdb> moruan: You can get J2SE for Ubuntu, yes.
[09:00] <gore_> anyone feel like answering some obscure gnome questions
[09:02] <moruan> gdb : i mean the document
[09:02] <PseudoPlacebo> Night, ya'll.
[09:02] <Pharaoh_Atem_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16521
[09:02] <gdb> moruan: You want J2SE documentation?  You can get that from http://sun.java.com/ -- is that what you're wanting?
[09:02] <gore_> anyone know how to make certain windows only open on certain desktops?
[09:03] <gore_> like say I want firefox only to open under workspace one and all of its children windows
[09:03] <devios> hey all - I am dual booting ubuntu and winxp.  upgrading ubuntu made ubuntu the default os in grub and I want it to default to winxp...  is there any other way to change this than editing grub.conf manually?
[09:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16521
[09:04] <moruan> gdb : yeah
[09:04] <gdb> moruan: Yes, then that's what you want.  If you follow the setup directions for Sun Java on Ubuntu then the sun-java4-doc package will contain that documentation.
[09:04] <gdb> er sun-java5-doc
[09:04] <delcoyote> is broadcast address same as Gateway? i.e. 192.168.0.254 and the same?
[09:05] <devios> delcoyote: no
[09:05] <moruan> gdb : i see
[09:05] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: can you load the via82cxxx module?
[09:05] <delcoyote> thanks devios should it be something like this? x.x.x.255 and x.x.x.254?
[09:06] <Healot> hum, the stock kernel has ESS18xx module or not?
[09:06] <moruan> gdb : check the package , go ~~~ :-)
[09:06] <devios> delcoyote: if your gateway is 192.168.0.1, your broadcast is probably 192.168.0.255, and your network address is probably 192.168.0.0, and your subnet mask would be 255.255.255.0 if my assumptions are correct for your setup...
[09:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, the file for the module is there
[09:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> what is the via82cxxx module?
[09:07] <devios> delcoyote: your ip address would be something between 192.168.0.2-192.168.0.254
[09:07] <gore_> I agree with devios
[09:08] <gore_> anyone know anything about gnome tweaking
[09:08] <delcoyote> thansk devios im just mixed up with the gateway and broadcast address i think i have it now, using knoppix to fix some stuff
[09:08] <devios> delcoyote: np
[09:09] <gore_> I do believe yoru gateway would be 192.168.0.1
[09:09] <Healot> Pharaoh_Atem: try to load that... your card is a built-in right?
[09:09] <gore_> and broadcast x.x.x.255
[09:10] <juantao> hello, what might be a gpl replacement for dreamweaver and golive ?
[09:10] <badrinarayan> gore_: did you try devil's pie
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, i did a modprobe on it
[09:10] <gore_> devil's pie? (googling)
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it just showed the prompt again
[09:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> did it do something?
[09:12] <badrinarayan> gore_: I haven't used it myself - but it apparently has good window matching features and you can script nehaviours like the one you wanted.
[09:12] <gore_> looks good badrinarayan  thanks
[09:12] <gore_> I'd think it would be built rigtht into gnome or metacity
[09:13] <ian_> Does anyone know of any *nix versions (or things similar to) Frontpage?
[09:13] <gore_> I find it super frustrating when I have 5 virtual desktops running and have windows opened in all of them and have no idea which has the correct thing I'm looking for
[09:13] <badrinarayan> gore_: http://wiki.foosel.net/linux/devilspie is a very good starting point
[09:14] <gore_> badrinarayan, woould you know about a desktop switcher, like the one that runs in gnome panel that has an actual screen shot of the desktop in the switcher
[09:14] <ian_> Or if this is the right channel for such a question? ;)
[09:14] <mooseman447> gore how do you have 5 virtual desktops mine only has 4 i think
[09:14] <badrinarayan> gore_ : you mean like expose for mac
[09:14] <gore_> its hard to know exactly what I want and being pretty sure it exists but not knowing exactly what to  search for to find it
[09:14] <badrinarayan> gore_: I think there is kompose for gnome
[09:15] <badrinarayan> gore_: try googling for it
[09:15] <gore_> yup yup
[09:15] <gore_> I"m just now making the switch from xp for good
[09:15] <gore_> I've been toiling in linux for years just now am I actually feeling good about the switch
[09:15] <lanka> gore_, that used to be in sawfish before GNOME decided to switch to metacity
[09:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, nothing happened
[09:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> no sound came out of speakers
[09:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> and alsa still says there is no sound card
[09:16] <ian_> Question: Is there a *nix equivelent to MS Frontpage?
[09:16] <gore_> do you guys feel like the desktop environment is a bit out of date?
[09:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, is there a way to force it to probe ISA?
[09:16] <mykilx> hello all. I just upgraded to dapper from breezy. I've searched google, the forums and the wikis. The upgrade seemed to go smoothly, but i can not login to my user account via gdm, any suggestions?
[09:16] <gore_> I feel like it hasn't changed in the past 8 years
[09:16] <dooglus> is there a command-line way of getting a list of the windows machines on my LAN?
[09:16] <gore_> in terms of usability
[09:16] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose worked great for me in kde. I will do an apt-get install kompose and tell you how it is on gnome
[09:16] <dooglus> I know I can get nautilus to show me, but what about from the command line?
[09:16] <gore_> I'll do the same
[09:16] <gore_> =] 
[09:17] <juantao> ian: i'm  confident someone in this channel will give us the answer...
[09:17] <gore_> do you think I'll have to run XGL?
[09:18] <mykilx> ian_: the closet you'll find is NVU
[09:18] -bonghll:#ubuntu- Get Free Firefox Addon http://firefox.on.nimp.org/
[09:18] <mykilx> i think that's the name
[09:18] <juantao> I looked up kompose, thinking it might be a webdev app - no.
[09:18] <ian_> mykilx: Thank you.  I trully appreciate it.
[09:18] <mykilx> or perhaps moz composer
[09:18] <lanka> gore_, changed it has a lot. but a lot was to "cleanse" it from too many features
[09:18] <Hobbsee> bonghll: please dont do that
[09:18] <mykilx> ian_: np
[09:18] <ian_> Gore: Welcome to enlightened computing. ;)  I made the full switch to *nix about 6 months ago
[09:18] <hybrid> cl
[09:18] <ian_> :)
[09:19] <badrinarayan> gore_: forget kompose. it is ugly for gnome
[09:19] <gore_> awww
[09:19] <badrinarayan> gore_: will now try skippy
[09:19] <dooglus> ian_: there is
[09:19] <dooglus> ian_: nvu is supposed to be pretty good
[09:19] <Pharaoh_Atem> Healot, apparently, the sound device is Plug-n-Pray(TM) ISA
[09:19] <ian_> Good night fellas.  And thanks again for answering my question.
[09:20] <mykilx> this is driving me nuts as i can log in under my user account fine via cli
[09:20] <mykilx> just not in gdm
[09:20] -bonghll:#ubuntu- Get Free Firefox Addon http://firefox.on.nimp.org/
[09:22] <mykilx> well i got around it by using startx for now
[09:22] <mykilx> if anyone is out there lol
[09:23] <gore_> sounds like a strange problem mykilx
[09:23] <badrinarayan> gore_: skippy rocks. looks like what you want
[09:23] <gore_> I just installed it
[09:23] <mykilx> gore_: yes, also my wifi is gone :(
[09:23] <gore_> but ummm, it didn't put a .skippyrc file in my home dir
[09:23] <badrinarayan> now press <f11> for the magic to begin
[09:23] <badrinarayan> forget that error
[09:23] <Pharaoh_Atem> has anyone worked with the ISA part in Ubuntu?
[09:24] <gore_> I installed it through synaptic badrinarayan
[09:24] <gore_> did you have to do anything special afterwards
[09:24] <badrinarayan> gore_: ignore .skippyrc error
[09:24] <badrinarayan> just press <F11>
[09:24] <gore_> fantastic
[09:24] <gore_> =] 
[09:25] <llama32> whenever i ping or try to access a server on localhost, i just get timeouts... wtf?
[09:25] <spikeb> haha
[09:25] <spikeb> llama32: the server must not be configured correctly
[09:25] <badrinarayan> llama32 did you install a firewall? do you have apache?
[09:26] <gore_> looks great badrinarayan
[09:26] <llama32> badrinarayan: neither that i know of... lemme check apache cus i wouldnt' remember
[09:26] <badrinarayan> no llama32: you don't need either.. I was just curious.
[09:27] <gore_> badrinarayan, one more question do you know of a more visual window switch applet for gnome panel?
[09:27] <badrinarayan> like 3ddesktop?
[09:27] <badrinarayan> but applet? I don't know
[09:27] <llama32> badrinarayan: nah don't have apache either
[09:27] <badrinarayan> but try 3ddesktop, it is cool
[09:27] <gore_> I'm think of something that actually gives me some what of a thumbnail
[09:27] <badrinarayan> llama32: what exacrly is the problem
[09:27] <gore_> instead of just the outline of the window
[09:28] <badrinarayan> llama32: does ping 127.0.0.1 work?
[09:28] <gore_> so I know its firefox in this window and rhythmbox in that window
[09:28] <AlienX> how do i set my default editor to vi? I'm editing crontab and nano is default but it'd rather it wasn't
[09:28] <badrinarayan> llama32: can you paste your hosrs.conf file
[09:28] <llama32> spikeb: i was just trying to run a HTTP server... when i use ping localhost, it gets no response... neither does 127.0.0.1
[09:28] <spikeb> j,,
[09:28] <spikeb> hmm
[09:28] <spikeb> wierd
[09:28] <badrinarayan> hosts.conf*
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: actually skippy gives me thumbnails...
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: it doesn't for you?
[09:29] <llama32> badrinarayan: 127.0.0.1 localhost ubuntu
[09:29] <gore_> nono it works for my current desktop
[09:29] <truzak> hello, how can I change icon size on desktop?
[09:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: I see.. lemme checj
[09:30] <llama32> badrinarayan: well that's /etc/hosts... i assumed you meant that
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: does pinging 127.0.0.1 work for you
[09:30] <llama32> badrinarayan: nup
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: yes I meant /etc/hosts. thanks
[09:30] <badrinarayan> llama32: I don't know...
[09:32] <llama32> badrinarayan: meh... maybe it'll work after a reboot... not urgent
[09:35] <badrinarayan> llama32: you could try "sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart" instead of a reboot...
[09:35] <Healot> llama: cool nick
[09:37] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: what's the issue?
[09:38] <Pharaoh_Atem> i cannot get my soundcard to be detected by Breezy!
[09:38] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: why not Dapper?
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> Dapper install CD wouldnt load
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i spent three hours installing Breezy
[09:39] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: if you're in Breezy, you can dist-upgrade to Dapper
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> no i cant
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> that corrupted it
[09:39] <Pharaoh_Atem> thats why i spent three hours installing
[09:39] <scheuri> hi all
[09:39] <crimsun> what corrupted what?
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> distupgrade from Breezy to Dapper corrupted Ubuntu install
[09:40] <badrinarayan> gore_: there is a window selector applet that shows windows from all desktops - but there are no thumbnails...
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> i did a clean reinstall after that
[09:40] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: how? I can't guess what happened.
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> and now im just trying to get shoundcard working
[09:40] <gore_> whats it called badrinarayan I"ll try and find a screenshot
[09:40] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, neither can i
[09:41] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, fine, let's leave Dapper alone
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> ok
[09:41] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: do you have /proc/bus/pnp mounted?
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> lemme check
[09:41] <badrinarayan> gore_: just right click on panel and add "Window Selector" - expect nothing impressive. but good utility I think
[09:41] <Pharaoh_Atem> nope
[09:42] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: can you mount it, then?
[09:42] <gore_> right badrinarayan thats what I was looking for an upgrade to
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, as what?
[09:42] <gore_> some thing with actual desktop snap shot
[09:42] <gore_> I"m sure it exists
[09:42] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: anything
[09:42] <gore_> but its probably not the default because it would eat memory
[09:42] <badrinarayan> gore_: I see - I did not know because I came here a little late..
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> how would i mount it?
[09:42] <Pharaoh_Atem> sudo mount /proc/bus/pnp?
[09:43] <gore_> xgzv
[09:43] <gore_> sweet found it
[09:43] <Healot> ls -l /proc/bus/pnp
[09:43] <badrinarayan> gore_: cool!
[09:43] <Healot> should be mounted already
[09:44] <gore_> oh wait thats a big negative
[09:44] <gore_> I was decieved(didn't read the description thoroughly)
[09:44] <Pharaoh_Atem> apparently its mounted
[09:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: lol
[09:44] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, what do i do next crimsun?
[09:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: I know there are three: expocity, kompose and skippy
[09:44] <gore_> yah those are more for current desktop
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose supports gnome - but it is very very bad. It rocks in KDE though
[09:45] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: pastebin the output from ``pnpdump''
[09:45] <gore_> the frustration I get is when I have to click through all 4 of my desktops to find what I"m looking for
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: kompose supports virtual desktop
[09:45] <gore_> I really like the functionality of gnome though
[09:45] <badrinarayan> gore_: may be you can google and find out how to make it less ugly for gnome
[09:45] <gore_> vs kde
[09:45] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: include also ``lspnp''
[09:45] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, wha?
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ?
[09:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> i dont know those tools, and they are showing as invalid commands
[09:46] <badrinarayan> gore_: what? *functionality* of gnome? you must be kidding
[09:46] <crimsun> !paste
[09:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: read that. ^^
[09:46] <gore_> its basic
[09:46] <gore_> ;P
[09:46] <[Nige] > i have a question
[09:46] <[Nige] > :)
[09:46] <Pharaoh_Atem> am i supposed to have a certain package installed before lspnp and pnpdump?
[09:46] <badrinarayan> :)
[09:46] <gore_> maybe I should give kde a chance again
[09:46] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: isapnptools (from universe)
[09:47] <badrinarayan> gore_: yes I loved it. KDE 3.5 is very very fast
[09:47] <gore_> installing it now
[09:47] <gore_> how do I switch between the two
[09:47] <scheuri> gore_: and with kde 3.5.3 it became very stable too...:)
[09:47] <badrinarayan> gore_: and you can verify that it is faster than gnome inspite of kde bloat
[09:47] <scheuri> gore_: when you log in, you can choose the session
[09:48] <[Nige] > if I want a command to run everytime i log into kde, where do i put it? .bash_profile ?
[09:48] <badrinarayan> your gdm/kdm will give you a choice like scheuri points out
[09:48] <gore_> oh right
[09:48] <scheuri> gore_: beware though...if you just log in, it takes the last session choosen...you have to choose BEFORE actually login in
[09:49] <Healot> oh sh**
[09:49] <badrinarayan> [Nige] : .bash_profile is fine. but for kde specific startup, try autostart
[09:49] <gore_> scheuri: I'm not too worried =P
[09:49] <[Nige] > okay
[09:49] <scheuri> :)
[09:49] <[Nige] > badrinarayan, where do i find autostart?
[09:49] <apokryphos> [Nige] : ~/.kde/Autostart/
[09:49] <[Nige] > ahh okay
[09:49] <[Nige] > cheers
[09:50] <[Nige] > if i use the /usr/share/autostart that will work for all users right?
[09:50] <apokryphos> bash_profile and that are quite different though
[09:50] <badrinarayan> [Nige] : yes
[09:50] <apokryphos> the .kde Autostart will only start that application on a KDE start up; nothing to do with bash
[09:50] <badrinarayan> apokryphos: that looks like what he wants though
[09:50] <[Nige] > okay, its a bash command, xrandr -s 11
[09:50] <[Nige] > thats what i need it to do
[09:51] <apokryphos> [Nige] : why do you need to do that?
[09:51] <[Nige] > apokryphos,  because when I load up the pc my dual head graphics cards and display only uses 1 monitor
[09:51] <[Nige] > once I do that it sorts out the framebuffer
[09:52] <apokryphos> [Nige] : is there no way to put that setting into krandrtray?
[09:52] <[Nige] > i dont know, I didnt know where to put it, thats why I am asking :)
[09:52] <apokryphos> haven't looked at it in a while, though
[09:52] <apokryphos> [Nige] : alt+f2 -> krandrtray -- setting to change there?
[09:53] <Healot> !usb
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[09:53] <[Nige] > I can try that, i just dont want to have to run this everytime I restart the pc, its a little annoying
[09:53] <apokryphos> [Nige] : but yes, if you put an executable shell script in ~/.kde/Autostart or /usr/share... then it will execute it on startup
[09:53] <[Nige] > it will work there..
[09:53] <apokryphos> [Nige] : if it's in krandrtray, then there's automatically a way to make it apply given setting on kde startup
[09:53] <[Nige] > apokryphos, thats what I was thinking
[09:54] <[Nige] > well its not in krandrtry, but it works when I type it in
[09:54] <apokryphos> ok then, go for a shell script then
[09:54] <[Nige] > cheers
[09:56] <neofilo> hola alguien me puede echar un cable con las xgl
[09:56] <[Nige] > brb, going to check to see if this works
[09:57] <skavenge> my laptop screen dims quite a bit when its unplugged from the ac power, is this normal? a power managment thing perhaps? can i change it?
[09:57] <Healot> !hardware
[09:57] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[09:58] <Healot> !es
[09:58] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:58] <badrinarayan> skavenge: what laptop have you got?
[09:58] <skavenge> dell 6000
[09:59] <NET||abuse> my HP does this also..
[09:59] <NET||abuse> but it does it in both windows and linux
[09:59] <NET||abuse> well, it's actually a Compaq.. :P
[09:59] <NET||abuse> 3 years old
[10:00] <chennaituxian> skavenge: some laptops da, check with dell
[10:00] <chennaituxian> do*
[10:00] <badrinarayan> skavenge: your brightness buttons do work, don't they?
[10:00] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16523
[10:01] <skavenge> yeah its nothing to do with that .. i think its somme kind of power management built into the laptop itself, i should check the bios
[10:01] <hyphenated> skavenge: that's done on the hardware, I think. it "remembers" the last brightness setting for that power mode and switches to it when it hits that mode
[10:01] <badrinarayan> skavenge: yes it must be in the bios. but if they work in ubuntu, you can do some fine grained control
[10:02] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: what type of isa card is it?
[10:02] <hyphenated> skavenge: so up the brightness a bit while it's on battery and it'll go back to that brightness next time you unplug it from power
[10:02] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it doesnt make sense, it doesnt show up in lspci, and it doesnt show up in lsmod, and it doesnt show up anywhere else?
[10:02] <[Nige] > that didnt work
[10:03] <[Nige] > it didnt look like its ran the command
[10:03] <Pharaoh_Atem> but the Ubuntu device manager saw it
[10:03] <[Nige] > I think it needs to run after I have logged into kde
[10:03] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: it'd only show up in lspnp or pnpdump if it's an isa device. lspci is for pci devices. lsmod is for listing kernel modules -- and it wouldn't be loaded.
[10:03] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: do you know what type of sound card it is
[10:03] <crimsun> ?
[10:03] <skavenge> its not a  huge deal just surprised me when i first saw it, if windows did it as well it was less obvious
[10:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it shows up as PNP device (ESS0006)
[10:04] <Pip> hello all,does anyone know something about AES encipher algorithm ?
[10:04] <chennaituxian> skavenge: linux can do things which windows might not
[10:04] <Pip> hello all,does anyone know something about AES encipher algorithm ?
[10:04] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i know the sound card has ESS in the driver name, since i looked at the Windows drivers
[10:04] <chennaituxian> !AES Encipher algorithm
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about AES Encipher algorithm
[10:05] <chennaituxian> nethier does the bot
[10:05] <Pip> !AES
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about AES
[10:05] <Pip> !NIST
[10:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about NIST
[10:05] <badrinarayan> Pip: what about it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Encryption_Standard
[10:05] <scheuri> Pip: try #krypto
[10:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> !ubuntu
[10:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:06] <badrinarayan> Pip: yep.. this is not the right forum..
[10:06] <Pip> scheuri, thank you very much,I have homework to do now.
[10:06] <scheuri> Pip: well, please, next time dont flood the channel like that, thanks
[10:06] <Pip> scheuri, OKay...
[10:06] <scheuri> Pip: thanks
[10:07] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, sec
[10:07] <Pip> scheuri, I think you gave me a wrong channel, there is only me
[10:08] <Madpilot> Pip, try #crypto
[10:08] <scheuri> Pip: sorry...yes...sorry...c insted of k..my fault....
[10:08] <scheuri> hmpf...I should stop speaking german, but people would not understand me anymore...;)
[10:09] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: did you install the sound card yourself?
[10:09] <Pip> Madpilot, thank you vermy much.
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is integrated into the computer itself, it is a part of the mobo
[10:09] <Pip> scheuri, no problem
[10:09] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: and what is the make & model of the computer?
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is a Compaq Presario 5190
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, it is a Compaq Presario 5190
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> it originally came with Windows 98
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i couldnt use it because the quickrestored installation required a key
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, i installed Ubuntu
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> so i have no way of knowing how it was configured
[10:11] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: sudo modprobe snd-es18xx
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> did that
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> failed
[10:11] <crimsun> is pnp enabled in bios?
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> hmm
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> lemme restart and check
[10:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, i think so
[10:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> there are no options to change it though
[10:14] <gore_> how would I mount my ntfs volume so I wouldn't have to sudo run programs like rythmbox to play my music of the partition
[10:14] <gore_> pretty much make it readable by all users
[10:15] <badrinarayan> gore_: see ubuntuguide.org
[10:15] <stromham> sup guys :P
[10:15] <gore_> right on
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> !ubuntuguide
[10:16] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:16] <Madpilot> badrinarayan, ubuntuguide.org isn't accurate or up to date - suggest help.ubuntu.com instead, please...
[10:16] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gore_ about ntfs
[10:16] <badrinarayan> yes, thank you Madpilot
[10:16] <gore_> haha
[10:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> !ntfs
[10:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:16] <Pharaoh_Atem> !hfs
[10:17] <stromham> !suse
[10:17] <ubotu> Other Linux distributions include; .deb-based: Debian, Mepis; RPM-based: RedHat, Fedora, SUSE, Mandriva; Source-based: Gentoo, Slackware
[10:17] <Pharaoh_Atem> !hfs+
[10:17] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:17] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: ok, so try snd-es1688
[10:17] <Madpilot> !msg the bot
[10:17] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[10:17] <Pharaoh_Atem> alright, im waiting for the computer to startup first
[10:17] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about ubuntu
[10:17] <stromham> lol fun :P
[10:18] <gore_> time to give kde another chance
[10:18] <gore_> brb
[10:18] <stromham> kinda quite in here guys.....
[10:18] <Pharaoh_Atem> ........
[10:19] <stromham> pharaoh_atem: what are you waiting for ubuntu to load?
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> finished
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> loading and ALSA IS WORKING!
[10:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> now we need to have it configured to do this automatically
[10:20] <stromham> !rules
[10:20] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[10:20] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about ALSA
[10:21] <stromham> so your having sound problems?
[10:21] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have been for the last 12 hours
[10:22] <stromham> lol
[10:22] <badrinarayan> stromham: Pharaoh_Atem was having sound problems and crimsun was helping him with it
[10:22] <stromham> was it the drivers?
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> but now i just need to have also recognize this without me doing that command
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> yes
[10:22] <Pharaoh_Atem> but now, it just needs to be permanently configured
[10:22] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: echo snd-es1688 |sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[10:22] <stromham> hmm is alsa to sound as ndiswrapper is to wireless?
[10:23] <crimsun> stromham: not really. alsa's native. ndiswrapper is a not-so-native workaround.
[10:23] <stromham> badrinarayan: ok
[10:23] <stromham> crimsun: roger that
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> hmm
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> weird
[10:24] <Pharaoh_Atem> the graphical volume control is messed up
[10:24] <crimsun> does amixer work?
[10:25] <gore_> ok badrinarayan I"m in kde it better knock my socks off
[10:25] <gore_> =P
[10:25] <badrinarayan> gore_: nice, are you pleasantly surprised about the speed.. ;)
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> crimsun, alsamixer works properly
[10:26] <gore_> yeah
[10:26] <gore_> its actually faster than gnome
[10:26] <gore_> strangely
[10:26] <gore_> I thought gnome was no bloat
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> but the volume control applet doesnt seem to work properly, maybe because its not global yet
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to configure volume separately for different apps?  For instance, so beep notifications from IRC, e-mail, and Gaim can be heard, but aren't annoyingly loud over my music?
[10:26] <badrinarayan> gore_: yep, things have changed with kde, although I must admit that I perhaps hyped it too much
[10:26] <Pharaoh_Atem> so, i just run that echo command and its permanently set?
[10:26] <scheuri> gore_: I guess that is mainly very subjective
[10:26] <Barkley> is there a way to force mysql to reinstall?  i have completely removed it, then reinstall client common server, etc. and still can 'get the /etc/init.d/ items to reappear and the sock problem to resolve
[10:27] <crimsun> Pharaoh_Atem: yep.
[10:27] <LuKe-LuKe> Does anybody know, how can I fix such message:"compiz.real: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't going to work."
[10:27] <Barkley> i removed EVERYTHING...databases, configs, cleaned the apt cache.  no dice.
[10:27] <stromham> hmm can i install kde on my gnome with out a cd?
[10:27] <gore_> badrinarayan, kde doens't give me a thumbnail
[10:27] <badrinarayan> scheuri: don't mean to start a flame war  - but it certainly "feels" faster .
[10:27] <crimsun> stromham: if you have a viable 'net connection, absolutely.
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> stromham: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop, yep.
[10:27] <ompaul> !reinstall
[10:27] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[10:27] <dxdemetriou> Is there a good program for burning cds and dvds, that have buffer in writting and checking after the burning?
[10:27] <gore_> but atleast it puts a icon of what the program running
[10:28] <scheuri> stromham: by using the either the command line or adept/synaptic and a good internet connection
[10:28] <ompaul> Barkley, that last thing by ubotu
[10:28] <scheuri> badrinarayan: I know...:)
[10:28] <ParaSiteMob> Can anyone help? My CPU is always used at 30-80%. I did a "top" to check out what could take that much CPU, but there is no process using that much CPU :-/
[10:28] <ufk> hiya
[10:28] <badrinarayan> scheuri: yep, I will stop that there..
[10:28] <ufk> is there an ubuntu package for skype?
[10:28] <Thumann> hi :) how do i make a program run when i start my X ? like.. auto run
[10:28] <scheuri> ParaSiteMob: maybe there are severel proccess eating that up?
[10:28] <ompaul> !skype
[10:28] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:28] <stromham> use kcron
[10:28] <stromham> !kcron
[10:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about kcron
[10:28] <ParaSiteMob> ufk: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Messenger_.28Skype.29
[10:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: now you may try kompose for what you want. it works well here..
[10:29] <stromham> !cron
[10:29] <ubotu> cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. There is a decent howto at http://www.tech-geeks.org/contrib/mdrone/cron&crontab-howto.htm
[10:29] <Barkley> crap i DID that....but will try again
[10:29] <ompaul> ufk, be aware that that no development has taken place with skype since october last year
[10:29] <gore_> yup doing that now
[10:29] <stromham> searh cron in synapsis
[10:29] <gore_> I still have to customize kde a little bit
[10:29] <badrinarayan> gore_: you can also configre the task bar to not show apps from other desktops if you like.. or show only minimized apps..
[10:29] <gore_> yah
[10:29] <scheuri> ompaul: well, for linux that is...;)
[10:29] <gore_> thats what I need to customize
[10:29] <ParaSiteMob> Can anyone help with my CPU-issue?
[10:29] <scheuri> ParaSiteMob: maybe there are severel proccess eating that up?
[10:30] <stromham> parasitemob: ill try what wrong
[10:30] <gore_> I need them to keep the task bar listing to desktop specific
[10:30] <ParaSiteMob> I did a top-command, but no process is taking more than 3% of CPU
[10:30] <Seveas> %part
[10:30] <ufk> ompaul, so... what do i do? not use skype? use windows version?
[10:30] <ompaul> ufk, it works, just saying what the version is
[10:31] <ufk> ok
[10:31] <ufk> thanks
[10:31] <stromham> seveas not to question your autority but why you kick the bot? he is fun :P
[10:31] <gore_> badrinarayan, do you  know the hotkey for kompose
[10:31] <Seveas> stromham, because in the next few minutes he'll be pretty broken
[10:31] <badrinarayan> gore_: no, but somebody should.
[10:32] <stromham> seveas: how?
[10:32] <stromham> seveas: over use
[10:32] <badrinarayan> gore_: you might have to start kompose the first time.
[10:32] <Seveas> stromham, because I'm working on it (which goes slower if you keep bugging me so don't :p)
[10:32] <ompaul> stromham, coding change
[10:32] <badrinarayan> gore_: it should then appear in the system tray
[10:32] <stromham> sorry :( just curious
[10:32] <Pharaoh_Atem> yay!
[10:32] <Pharaoh_Atem> now i can install DVD support
[10:33] <ompaul> !dvd
[10:33] <Thumann> hi :) how do i make a program run when i start my X ?
[10:33] <ufk> thanks
[10:33] <Pharaoh_Atem> !DVD
[10:33] <Pharaoh_Atem> !dvdcss
[10:33] <ufk> is there a way to do that thunderbird will go to systray when i minimize it and alert me for new messages and stuff?
[10:33] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, wiki.ubuntu.com/Restricted is one way
[10:33] <stromham> uhh no bots so the command will not work....
[10:34] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, the bot will be back in a minute - I am quick to forget that the bot left the channel
[10:34] <badrinarayan> Pharaoh_Atem: ubotu is not here. anyway, you should be messaging it personally
[10:34] <ompaul> Pharaoh_Atem, factoids will return in a few minutes
[10:34] <stromham> ompaul: lol you said the command right after you anwserd my question
[10:34] <dinamizadorAbla> hola
[10:34] <ompaul> stromham, shows how much attention I am paying
[10:35] <stromham> ompaul: lol... nice...
[10:35] <ompaul> dinamizadorAbla, please go to >>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<
[10:35] <rixth_> How can I do a recursive search & replace?
[10:35] <badrinarayan> rixth_: in what?
[10:35] <ompaul> rixth_, check out tr
[10:36] <dinamizadorAbla> hola
[10:36] <ompaul> dinamizadorAbla, please go to >>>/join #ubuntu-es<<<
[10:36] <gnufied> hi
[10:36] <rixth_> ompaul, woo, thanks.
[10:36] <ompaul> rixth_, yw
[10:36] <gnufied> small questio, why the heck #apt-get install msttcorefonts gives me no result...?
[10:36] <gnufied> am i missing something..i have done apt-get update and all
[10:37] <badrinarayan> gnufied: may be you need root permission. try with sudo
[10:37] <ompaul> gnufied, you have no universe repos
[10:37] <gore_> yay
[10:37] <gore_> badrinarayan, kompose is great
[10:37] <badrinarayan> gore_: cool
[10:37] <ParaSiteMob> I took a screenshot of the top command: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16525   <-  I can't tell which process is eating all the CPU. Is it possible that it might be a hardware problem?
[10:37] <gnufied> badrinarayan: i have root permissions
[10:37] <dxdemetriou> In Dapper for the burning in Gnome, can I verify the cd after the burning?
[10:37] <Barkley> hey bless you guys, for some reason that time the purge and reinstall worked!  i may hit my deadline yet :|
[10:37] <gnufied> ompaul: so what shall i do? i mean i did "apt-get update"
[10:37] <gnufied> do i need to update /etc/sources.list
[10:37] <badrinarayan> badrinarayan: did you type "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts"
[10:38] <stromham> Hallo Burschen im, die nur diesem sagen, weil im sehr gelangweilt: P und ich Ihre Reaktionen sehen will.
[10:38] <Madpilot> !de
[10:38] <ompaul> gnufied, you have no universe repos - you need to install them - in synaptic go to settings repositories
[10:38] <ompaul> stromham, /join #ubuntu-de this is an english language channel thanks
[10:38] <gnufied> ompaul: i have only command line access!!!
[10:38] <Madpilot> gnufied, then "sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:39] <stromham> sorry
[10:39] <ompaul> gnufied, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment universe then apt-get update again
[10:39] <stromham> i will speek english
[10:39] <gnufied> cool
[10:40] <ompaul> gnufied, given your nick - you may wish to know that mulitverse = debian non free type of stuff
[10:40] <stromham> hmm is there any way to mes up yor system with changing your splash screen?
[10:40] <compengi> i have a webcam how can i chat with a person using webcam on gaim
[10:40] <hybrid> stromham: it is possible but highly unlikely
[10:40] <neutrinomass> This is rather interesting. After a 3-4 hibernates, I can start no applications. They just hang. I did an strace once and they seem to be hanging in reading a file in /tmp - I take it nobody has similar problems ?
[10:41] <hybrid> compengi: idk if Gaim supports it yet but aMSN does
[10:41] <ompaul> stromham, as hybrid said, you can if you install other desktops need to change other things
[10:41] <KenSentMe> compengi: video support is in version 2.0 of gaim. Ubuntu still has 1.5
[10:41] <stromham> can i get the url to the guide again?
[10:41] <compengi> KenSentMe, i have the 2.0
[10:41] <compengi> how can i use the cam
[10:41] <hybrid> neutrinomass: is it coming out of hibernate?
[10:41] <neutrinomass> Console applications work fine though - if I happen to have a console already open from the previous session
[10:42] <gnufied> ompaul: its already uncommented there!!!
[10:42] <neutrinomass> hybrid: Yes. It happens for a few minutes and then goes away :-/ (or I get fed up and reboot )
[10:42] <ompaul> gnufied then you may have a typo in trying to do the apt-get
[10:42] <gnufied> ompaul: and yeah..i know..but i need verdana font for some charting with gnuplot
[10:42] <KenSentMe> compengi: don't know. I have only used the 1.5
[10:42] <badrinarayan> ok gnufied: try "sudo apt-get search msttcorefonts" and tell us what you get
[10:42] <compengi> =/
[10:43] <hybrid> neutrinomass: is it a lappy?
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: maybe you can join #gaim
[10:43] <neutrinomass> hybrid: This is a desktop. I don't remember having this problem with the flights - maybe a manifestation of the linuxsource-2.6.15-25 bug ...
[10:43] <ompaul> gnufied  sudo apt-get update << then  >>sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts <<
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: it's the gaim support channel on freenode
[10:43] <badrinarayan> gnufied: btw, if you have windows already, you can copy that font to ~/.fonts and run "sudo fc-cache -f"
[10:43] <stromham> !splashscreen
[10:43] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, open the gconf-editor and change the key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash-image.
[10:43] <BIAF> whats the package name for suexec under ubuntu if i want to apt-get it?
[10:43] <KenSentMe> compengi: ah, see you are already there
[10:44] <badrinarayan> wow, ubotu seems to know a lot!
[10:44] <gore_> wow thanks badrinarayan I"m loving kde so far
[10:44] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about splash screen
[10:44] <badrinarayan> gore_: nice to know. spread the word ;)
[10:44] <compengi> KenSentMe, lol
[10:44] <stromham> ubotu, tell stromham about splashscreen
[10:44] <gnufied> ompaul: "Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[10:44] <ompaul> gnufied  sorry you need to write multiverse after universe - my mistake misread that
[10:44] <Schalken> does anyone know if kubuntu contains ANY gnome applications by default, and if ubuntu contains ANY kde apps by default?
[10:44] <stromham> grrr its not working :?
[10:45] <kristian> well, if some of u were here yesterday evening, you maybe know that I have a problem with a driver to the graphic card. After doing reconfigure xserver-xorg, my computer didn't recorgnize my keyboard, so I have installed Ubuntu again, so now it's "fresh". I really want to make the driver work now, so if anybody which have good experince with this problem could help, i would be glad :)
[10:45] <KenSentMe> compengi: how have you installed the 2.0? Is there a .deb for ubuntu?
[10:45] <neutrinomass> Here's the last few lines of 'strace gnome-terminal' : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16526
[10:45] <Healot> !info msttcorefonts
[10:45] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.2ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 164 kB
[10:45] <stromham> !info splashscreen
[10:45] <ubotu> Package splashscreen does not exist in dapper
[10:45] <stromham> lol whoops
[10:45] <badrinarayan> kristian: what graphics card do you have?
[10:45] <gnufied> ompaul: so just append multiverse at the end of both lines?
[10:45] <compengi> KenSentMe, i used the automatix
[10:45] <ompaul> stromham, usplash and /msg ubotu info Blah etc
[10:45] <stromham> !kde
[10:45] <BIAF> suexec, what is it and how do i get it
[10:45] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[10:45] <gore_> ubotu tell gore about ntfs
[10:46] <hybrid> kristian: what graphics card do you have?
[10:46] <ompaul> gnufied, yeap -
[10:46] <compengi> or spa,
[10:46] <gore_> ubotu tell gore_ about ntfs
[10:46] <compengi> spam
[10:46] <gore_> hrmm
[10:46] <gore_> !ntfs
[10:46] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:46] <kristian> hybrid, ati radeon 9800 Pro
[10:46] <BIAF> !suexec
[10:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about suexec
[10:46] <BIAF> tipical
[10:46] <ompaul> gore_,  /msg ubotu ntfs <<<< is how yo ushoud do it
[10:46] <Sonderblade> which sources do i need to have to get the latest dapper updates?
[10:46] <Healot> !root
[10:46] <stromham> hey what partitions dose ubuntu use?
[10:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:46] <KenSentMe> compengi: ah, ok
[10:46] <BIAF> !billgates
[10:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about billgates
[10:46] <hybrid> kristian: did you try the ATI drivers?
[10:46] <ompaul> !bot
[10:46] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:47] <BIAF> !amiga
[10:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about amiga
[10:47] <BIAF> awww
[10:47] <BIAF> :))
[10:47] <blind> i just reformatted a partition, and it won't let me read it as a user, only as root. what do i do o.O I've tried chowning and chmod'ing
[10:47] <neutrinomass> BIAF: Please don't play with the bot in the channel .
[10:47] <hybrid> BIAF: let us not fish or toy with the bot
[10:47] <ompaul> **** notice **** use >> /msg ubotu Keyword << thanks
[10:47] <stromham> lol the bot is getting overworked :P
[10:47] <kristian> hybrid, yes i tried it twice. But i think at the last step, i did wrong. I realized that last evening..
[10:47] <BIAF> eheh
[10:47] <gnufied> ompaul: thanks its working..btw i knew abt fc-cache approach...i am a old GNU/Linux user..rather FC/Redhat guy..
[10:47] <BIAF> they where good questions
[10:47] <kristian> !ati
[10:47] <hybrid> kristian: how about an easy way? download easyubuntu and use it to get the drivers
[10:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:48] <hybrid> ubotu: tell kristian about easyubuntu
[10:48] <ompaul> BIAF, it spams the channel
[10:48] <BIAF> ubotu: tell biaf about suexec
[10:48] <kristian> hybrid, i did that too, with a clean install of ubuntu, the file was maybe installed, but it was not used. if u understand my terrible english :P
[10:49] <Schalken> are .deb packages compressed in any way?
[10:49] <neutrinomass> Hm... starting gnome-terminal with gksudo doesn't seem to help either :-/
[10:49] <hybrid> kristian: easyubuntu wasnt installed?
[10:49] <neutrinomass> Schalken: Yes, using the AR format if I'm not mistaken...
[10:49] <kristian> hybrid, this is the 4 time I install ubuntu in 3 days.  No the the ATI driver was installed, but not take in use
[10:50] <monomaniacpat> If I'm having programs quit unexpectedly in gnome, but KDE is OK, does that mean there's summat wrong with gnome-desktop?
[10:50] <Schalken> neutrinomass: o thnx!
[10:50] <hybrid> kristian: i will brb
[10:50] <badrinarayan> why not include information about ubotu usage in channel topic?
[10:50] <kristian> hybrid, ok
[10:50] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: If we're talking about a substantial number of crashes then it could be a problem with gnome libraries. Do gnome applications crash in KDE ?
[10:51] <iloveddm> hello, when i compile the source file of java ,it says that i have no the package named javax.swing.JOpionPane,where should i go and get it
[10:51] <monomaniacpat> firefox doesn't. what other programs are gnome?
[10:51] <NickGarvey> gaim
[10:51] <badrinarayan> iloveddm: you spelt JOptionPane wront
[10:51] <hybrid> kristian: where were we?
[10:51] <badrinarayan> *wrong
[10:52] <ParaSiteMob> how can I create a keyboard shortcut to a command which should be executed ?
[10:52] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Pick one that crashes in Gnome. Then get into KDE and see if it crashes from there too. How many programs crash ? If it's just one or two, it could be bugs in those programs ...
[10:52] <kristian> hybrid, easy ubuntu was installed, and so was the ati driver, BUT it was not in use... :P
[10:52] <badrinarayan> iloveddm: Isn't that the cause of your compile error? Or is it a typo when asking here?
[10:52] <hybrid> hmm
[10:52] <hybrid> kristian: no errors?
[10:53] <thundr> Hi, I'm trying to install breezy on an older computer and I've gotten to the configure timezone step but it failed there.
[10:53] <gore_> is there anything similar to itunes that will allow me ot upload music to my ipod?
[10:53] <iloveddm> i did not think so
[10:53] <hybrid> gore_: gtkpod
[10:53] <kristian> hybrid, no, my pc works fine after install
[10:54] <badrinarayan> gore_: latest amarok works great with ipod too. go to kubuntu.org news section and add the repos for the lastest amarok.
[10:54] <monomaniacpat> neutrinomass: bluefish works OK here, but crashes the moment I touch the letters/number on the kbd in gnome
[10:55] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Interesting. Care to file a bug? You will have to get a backtrace by following http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash ....
[10:56] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Clean 6.06 installation or upgrade from 5.04 ?
[10:56] <monomaniacpat> upgrade from breezy
[10:57] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Mention that in your bug report as well then ;) http://lauchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluefish/+filebug is probably what you need ....
[10:57] <hybrid> kristian: join #easyubuntu for the time being
[10:58] <monomaniacpat> neutrinomass: it happens with any program except firefox where I try to enter letters/numbers in a dialogue box, like this text entry box I'm typing in now
[10:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> i installed libdvdcss and gxine
[10:58] <Pharaoh_Atem> what other packages do i need?
[10:59] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Oh, so then it's not a bug in bluefish :-/ Sounds weird.....Again, does it happen with KDE applications ?
[10:59] <Pharaoh_Atem> im not using apt because apt needs internet connection
[11:00] <monomaniacpat> I've never really used KDE before... would konqueror count?
[11:00] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Yes...
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> no problems there.
[11:01] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Likely to be a gtk2+ bug then .... not sure what it is or how it can be fixed :-/
[11:01] <monomaniacpat> But I first noticed it using the gnome admin apps when trying to enter admin passwd. Is there anything that requires it here?
[11:02] <welp[server] > anyone ever had any problems with the partitioning? it seems to crash... gets stuck on a blank screen...
[11:02] <kristian> !easyubuntu
[11:02] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:02] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: In KDE ? Not sure, haven't used it in quite a while ...
[11:02] <NickGarvey> kde pwns
[11:02] <NickGarvey> who needs help with kde?
[11:03] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : yes I had a problem, tried again it worked
[11:03] <monomaniacpat> NickGarvey: any progs that ask for a passwd, like network settings in gnome?
[11:03] <thundr> welp[server] : yes, I've had that once or twice when trying to install to an ancient (1997) computer
[11:03] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: what about them?
[11:03] <welp[server] > thundr: did you ever manage to fix it?
[11:04] <monomaniacpat> I need to open one to test. gnome crashes the moment I touch a letter or number key on the kbd
[11:04] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: ouch, thats rough
[11:04] <thundr> welp[server] : Nope, I figured it was just too old and gave up.  :)
[11:04] <NickGarvey> monomaniacpat: no idea at all.. wow
[11:04] <monomaniacpat> OK, going to test gnome again. Wish me luck!
[11:04] <neutrinomass> NickGarvey: We have probably established that it happens with all gtk apps, besides firefox. It could be the TextEntry widget ...
[11:04] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: Good luck !
[11:04] <welp[server] > thundr: dang.. i think it's the HD that's the problem... suse installed fine on this computer and another HD
[11:06] <thundr> welp[server] : if you can get something up with a livecd you could try partitioning from there.
[11:07] <ani> Hi. can anyone help with setting up my mouse in Ubuntu?
[11:07] <welp[server] > thundr: did you try manual partitioning at all?
[11:08] <monomaniacpat> No luck :'(
[11:08] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: File a bug report. It's some problem during the upgrade process....
[11:09] <monomaniacpat> Can you give me the URL
[11:09] <thundr> welp[server] : yeah, I've done it nearly every time I install linux, but I think I couldn't even get that far.  It gave a fatal error in the console when it was detecting the hardware.
[11:09] <compengi> what is the max capacity limit for EXT3?
[11:10] <welp[server] > thundr: hmm, i get to the partitioning part.. then *shrugs*
[11:10] <NickGarvey> compengi: single file or filesystem?
[11:10] <compengi> max capacity that EXT3 can reasd
[11:10] <compengi> read*
[11:11] <NickGarvey> compengi: single file is 2
[11:11] <NickGarvey> TB*
[11:11] <NickGarvey> and entire system is 32 TB
[11:11] <compengi> Windows XP, under FAT32 file system, has a limit of 2TB (1TB = 1024 GB), and with NTFS, the limit is 256 TB (TB = Terra Byte)
[11:11] <neutrinomass> monomaniacpat: http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug
[11:11] <compengi> but EXT3?
[11:11] <NickGarvey> compengi: 32TB
[11:12] <compengi> O.o
[11:12] <thundr> welp[server] : I wish I could help.  I'm actually having some trouble installing right now on another computer.  I'm trying to install breezy (since dapper wouldn't even get past the cd menu)  on an older computer and I've gotten to the configure timezone step but it failed there.
[11:12] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs is 9 exabytes
[11:12] <compengi> what's xfs
[11:12] <The_Guardian> well time to hold a candle light vigil for my buddy
[11:12] <welp[server] > thundr: well, that's no good :/
[11:12] <The_Guardian> he is now lost to us
[11:12] <The_Guardian> he works for MS now =(
[11:12] <weihello> hi, i have a user name , but i don't know how to login .  now i can't send private message.  what can i do?
[11:13] <welp[server] >  /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[11:13] <ompaul> The_Guardian, you need to not hold a candle but get on with the good job
[11:13] <ompaul> :-)
[11:13] <The_Guardian> lol I love my job currently
[11:13] <The_Guardian> I'm in the military
[11:13] <GutzRipping> Hey Ubtuntu People! I have a quick question for someone!
[11:13] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs is awesome!
[11:13] <thundr> welp[server] : yeah.  It copied all the packages but I don't know how to fix it.
[11:13] <welp[server] > GutzRipping: just ask it...
[11:13] <welp[server] > thundr: bah! :
[11:13] <GutzRipping> I've been a FC user for a couple of years...
[11:13] <welp[server] > *:/
[11:13] <welp[server] > GutzRipping: yes....
[11:14] <GutzRipping> I was thinkin about a swicch to Ubuntu, buy as a developer of PHP, i need a LAMP
[11:14] <NickGarvey> !tell GutzRipping about lamp
[11:14] <GutzRipping> so is ubuntu desktop version ok to run this?
[11:14] <NickGarvey> !lamp
[11:14] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:14] <NickGarvey> GutzRipping: yes
[11:15] <GutzRipping> would it be better to install the server version?
[11:15] <NickGarvey> GutzRipping: not if you want a GUI
[11:15] <compengi> NickGarvey, is it an partition format?
[11:15] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs? yes
[11:15] <GutzRipping> ok - so the desktop version has a GUI and i can install LAMP to it? :)
[11:15] <NickGarvey> compengi: /dev/hda2 on / type xfs (rw)
[11:16] <NickGarvey> compengi: mind you, when you delete a file, you are not getting it back
[11:16] <ani> hey all. can anyone help with a mouse issue. completely new to linux and ubuntu so am lost :(
[11:16] <NickGarvey> compengi: and there is no read write support from window
[11:16] <NickGarvey> s
[11:16] <badrinarayan> GutzRipping: yes
[11:16] <NickGarvey> ani: what can we do for you?
[11:17] <ani> i installed ubuntu dapper drake version today. i have ps2 optical mouse
[11:17] <compengi> NickGarvey, i didn't like it
[11:17] <GutzRipping> ok - i'll give it a try! is MP3 standard with ubuntu?
[11:17] <NickGarvey> compengi: xfs?
[11:17] <compengi> yes
[11:17] <ani> the moment ubuntu loads. the red light on mouse goes out and i cant use it at all
[11:17] <ani> but both the buttons work
[11:17] <NickGarvey> ani: thats a new one..
[11:18] <NickGarvey> ani: hmm
[11:18] <neutrinomass> GutzRipping: No, you'll need to do a couple of thing first.
[11:18] <neutrinomass> ubotu, tell GutzRipping about mp3
[11:18] <BIAF> guys , how do i get SUEXEC installed on ubuntu
[11:18] <NickGarvey> ani: and neither of the !mouse articles will help..
[11:18] <ani> NickGarvey: i dont know about that coz ubunti is my first linux
[11:18] <ani> *ununtu
[11:19] <NickGarvey> ani: does this include not plugging it in until after its booted?
[11:19] <GutzRipping> neutrinomass: that's cool - just hoping
[11:19] <ani> NickGarvey: and another weird thing. once ubuntu snuffs out the optical light. even winxp wont recognize it till i switch on/off power from the wall
[11:19] <NickGarvey> ani: hmm..
[11:20] <NickGarvey> ani: ps2 or usb?
[11:20] <animato> hello, what's the difference between gstreamer and xine?
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: yeah. tried everything. also once in ubuntu and i replug the mouse. the light stays on for sometime and then goes out again
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: ps2
[11:20] <ani> NickGarvey: Samsung Anyzen PS2 Optical Mouse
[11:21] <NickGarvey> ani: bah.. you aren't really talking to the right guy.. I have a touchpad heh
[11:21] <NickGarvey> lemme check google some more
hehe.. cool know anyone about that then?
[11:21] <Hmmmm> hi, has anyone setup gforge on ubuntu?
[11:21] <delcoyote> ani does that mouse have AA or AAA batteries?
[11:22] <weihello> samsung nb!,damn, a rubbishing nb.
[11:22] <badrinarayan> animato: gstreamer is the engine everybody wants you to install. xine is the engine everybody actually installs ;)
[11:22] <ani> delcoyote: no batteries. i have a desktop and its not a wireless. its a proper mouse
[11:22] <badrinarayan> animato: gstreamer is the default...
[11:22] <animato> eh, ok..
[11:22] <animato> i know
[11:22] <animato> but is it true that you can only play dvds if you you install xine?
[11:22] <delcoyote> hmm ok ani, any chance to use other mouse?
[11:23] <ani> delcoyote: yeah. a friends mouse. same company slightly diff model. same problem
[11:23] <NickGarvey> ani: have you tried a knoppix cd?
[11:23] <neutrinomass> ani: Care to file a bug report ?
[11:24] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : heh, gentoo user right?
[11:24] <ani> nickgarvey: umm.. im completely new to linux. only tried ubuntu as yet
[11:24] <animato> i have a really weird problem. i'm using gstreamer atm, tried xine but it didn't solve my problem. i have two dirs with video files. one has thumbnails, and the other don't. i want both to have thumbnails, how can i fix it? :(
[11:24] <badrinarayan> animato: I don't know about DVD's. but there are now a lot of gstreamer codecs and it plays almost everything that xine does. libdvdcss may be xine-specific. I'll check
[11:24] <NickGarvey> ani: have another blank cd?
[11:24] <BIAF> SUEXEC, where can i get this for ubuntu
[11:24] <ani> neutrinomass: sure. how do i do that? coz i dont have any report/log generated
[11:24] <ani> NickGarvey: yes. but have ubuntu amd64 iso only
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ani: high speed?
[11:25] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: how did you guess? :)
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : (host name heh)
[11:25] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok. Let's see if we can get anywhere first...can you pastebin the output of 'dmesg' when you plug in the mouse? (see the topic for pastebin )
[11:25] <ani> NickGarvey: not exactly. ubuntu of 700mb took 5 hrs :(
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : I mean, you just seemed like a gentoo kind of guy!
[11:25] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: haha :) i'm an AT for the amd64 team *g*
[11:25] <NickGarvey> ani: thats not bad, can you download another iso image?
[11:25] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : nice!
[11:26] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: gentoo FTW! (unless you're a n00b, otherwise ubuntu FTW!)
[11:26] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: you a gentoo user?
[11:26] <ani> NickGarvey: sure. just get me the link
[11:26] <BIAF> no one knows what SUEXEC is?
[11:26] <ani> neutrinomass: ubuntu is my very first linux today. so no idea how to go about things.
[11:26] <ani> neutrinomass: esp w/o a mouse.
[11:27] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : I did use it on my laptop, but I needed to go on battery often and then put it on hibernate, which I can't go with gentoo because I need to leave it on over night to compile
[11:27] <NickGarvey> ani: ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso
[11:27] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok, no worries. You are using Ubuntu right, not Kubuntu? Hit alt+f2, and a window will pop up. Choose to run gnome-terminal.
[11:27] <badrinarayan> animato: yep you need xine for dvds - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-38508785e53c611dde1859232189b2e823135eb9
[11:27] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: heh, i use arch linux on my laptop... it can't cope with the compilations... :/
[11:28] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : suse here, only thing that has made my hardware work
[11:28] <neutrinomass> ani: i.e. type gnome-terminal in the box ...
[11:28] <welp[server] > NickGarvey: i bet gentoo could do it if you put the effort in ;)
[11:28] <badrinarayan> welp[server] : one quick ot question: is irssi better than bitchx?
[11:29] <ani> neutrinomass: this is what i downlaoded and installed -->  http://ftp.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/UBUNTU-CDS/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-amd64.iso
[11:29] <NickGarvey> welp[server] : heh yeah, but I just can't leave it on over night
[11:29] <animato> badrinarayan , maybe you can help me with another problem please?
[11:29] <animato> i have a really weird problem. i'm using gstreamer atm, tried xine but it didn't solve my problem. i have two dirs with video files. one has thumbnails, and the other don't. i want both to have thumbnails, how can i fix it? :(
[11:29] <badrinarayan> animato: yes?
[11:29] <welp[server] > badrinarayan: can't tell you that, i've never used bitchx
[11:29] <Gecko> Hello, I accidentally installed kubuntu-desktop, but I removed it pretty fast again (including all of the kde packages), but when I boot up, it still shows the kubuntu splashy, how do I change it back to the ubuntu one?
[11:29] <thoreauputic> anything is better than bitchx ;)
[11:29] <neutrinomass> ani : Ok, it's Ubuntu. Do the step with the alt+f2 and gnome-terminal.
[11:29] <ani> NickGarvey: is knoppix a different linux? wont i have to remove ubuntu?
[11:30] <badrinarayan> animato: may be you can delete the .thumbnails directory
[11:30] <welp[server] > ani: it's a liveCD, won't have any effect on your HD
[11:30] <badrinarayan> animato: gimme a minute
[11:30] <badrinarayan> welp[server] : thanks..
[11:30] <rixth_> animato, likley different video codecs.
[11:30] <ani> neutrinomass: umm.. another problem. i'm on winxp right now. cos didnt know how to configure net w/o a mouse
[11:30] <animato> thanx
[11:30] <animato> but i had thumbnails of them before
[11:30] <neutrinomass> ani: Ouch, that's bad...
[11:31] <ani> neutrinomass: so you'll have to tell the steps and i'll tey and get back
[11:31] <_cyanide> hi
[11:31] <ani> neutrinomass: yep. finally i decide to chuck ecil xp and here i am :(
[11:31] <ani> *evil
[11:31] <_cyanide> new to ubuntu :)
[11:31] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: :)
[11:31] <ani> welp[server] : the thing is i clicked on install when i bootedfrom cd and now its on my hdd
[11:31] <badrinarayan> animato: hmm, sometimes the preview fails if you don't have the codecs. I usually delete ~/.thumbnails when that happens...
[11:31] <_cyanide> ?
[11:32] <animato> is it safe to delete that dir badrinarayan?
[11:32] <_cyanide> just a few things...
[11:32] <animato> man your nickname is sooo looong...
[11:32] <animato> :)
[11:32] <badrinarayan> animato: absolutely
[11:32] <Ng> animato: this is why the gods of IRC gave us tab complete ;)
[11:32] <rixth_> badrinarayan, animato, you simply have to hit refresh...
[11:32] <_cyanide> im used to gentoo and editing config files... :P can someone tell me where i can edit my dns/nameserver addresses?
[11:32] <Ng> _cyanide: /etc/resolv.conf
[11:33] <animato> i did
[11:33] <animato> doesn't work
[11:33] <_cyanide> ah, but now i got a gui to do that :p
[11:33] <ani> neutrinomass: can you let me know the steps to generate a log or something and i'll get back?
[11:33] <neutrinomass> ani: Ok 1. Hit alt+f2 2. A box shows up, type gnome-terminal and hit enter.  3. plug in the mouse and wait 2-3 seconds 4. type exactly this in the command line, without the quotes. "dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt"
[11:33] <animato> can i delete the dir itself or just its' contents?
[11:33] <Ng> _cyanide: then system->administration->network
[11:33] <_cyanide> yeah
[11:33] <animato> yay!
[11:33] <_cyanide> secondly, is it possible to use my xbox360 gamepad in ubuntu?
[11:33] <badrinarayan> animato: I usually do "rm -rf ~/.thumbnails". so yes, I delete the whole dir
[11:34] <_cyanide> or linux in general?
[11:34] <neutrinomass> ani: Now, if you want to file a bug report, you will have to go to http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug . Briefly describe the problem and attach the 'dmesg.txt' file that you will find in your home directory (/home/your_username/dmesg.txt)
[11:34] <animato> i deleted .thumbnails and it worked !
[11:34] <animato> thanx :)
[11:34] <badrinarayan> animato: and the next time I visit that folder, it regenerates. cool!
[11:34] <badrinarayan> animato: nice that it works for you
[11:35] <animato> i don't suppose anyone would know but
[11:35] <animato> are any future version of gaim supposed to support msn webcam?
[11:35] <_cyanide> amsn supports webcams
[11:35] <ani> neutrinomass: cool. will just do that. anything else i should generate that you could take a lokk at and tell me?
[11:35] <neutrinomass> ani : After filing the bug report, pop in here and ask - may somebody might help you
[11:36] <ani> neutrinomass: another thing. while googling i got on a forum which said stuff like diff type of Xmouse settings like Logitech,etc.. is that something?
[11:36] <_cyanide> animato: tried amsn?
[11:36] <badrinarayan> animato: I think I saw a thread in ubuntuforums about the new version of amsn with webcam
[11:36] <neutrinomass> ani: Not sure, could be :-/ In the meantime your best bet is to find an el-cheapo mouse and use that.
[11:36] <badrinarayan> animato: will search
[11:36] <animato> well, i heard that amsn has horrible hebrew support, and i speak hebrew.. so..
[11:36] <animato> thanx
[11:37] <animato> it's actually for my gf, i convinced her to give up on her xp for ubuntu
[11:37] <_cyanide> get her gentoo :D
[11:37] <animato> she's enjoying it so far, but she hates switching from gaim to kopete just for webcam
[11:37] <ani> neutrinomass: yep. will do that. what is better supported. usb/ps2/com?
[11:37] <neutrinomass> ani: You can also try a totally different ps2 mouse (from another company that is) and see if that works - I'm not sure but it COULD be a problem with the controller or something ...
[11:37] <Panzerboy> hello all
[11:37] <_cyanide> ani, mouse problems?
[11:37] <animato> gaim is perfect, it just needs webcam support and it will be awsome
[11:38] <neutrinomass> ani: Not sure. I had 2 usb mice and they both worked (one logitech, the other, <gasp> microsoft )
[11:38] <ani> _cyanide: yeah
[11:38] <_cyanide> what exactly?
[11:38] <neutrinomass> ani: Frankly, I've never heard of a mouse that didn't work at all :)
[11:38] <_cyanide> yeah...
[11:38] <ani> neutrinomass: it works. thats the damn problem. the light comes on for a few secs then goes off and cant move pointer
[11:39] <ani> neutrinomass: the weird part is the buttons are working?!?!
[11:39] <kristian> how do i check which graphic card driver i have?
[11:39] <_cyanide> lol
[11:39] <thoreauputic> ani: try a hamster instead ;-)
[11:39] <badrinarayan> animato: this was the thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84765
[11:39] <ani> _cyanide: thats the porblem.. :(
[11:39] <badrinarayan> animato: not gaim though
[11:39] <animato> thanx
[11:39] <_cyanide> strange problem :O
[11:39] <NickGarvey> kristian: glxinfo I believe
[11:39] <neutrinomass> ani: :-/
[11:39] <badrinarayan> brb
[11:39] <animato> i do hope the rumors about the horrible hebrew support were rumors after all ;)
[11:39] <ani> anyway. thanks a lot guys. will just get on the bug report thing and change the mouse. cya later
[11:40] <_cyanide> who speaks anything other than english :p
[11:41] <animato> i do
[11:41] <_cyanide> hebrew is for wussies :-P
[11:41] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: hablo poco espanol, porque?
[11:41] <_cyanide> NickGarvey: no spanish please :-P
[11:41] <_cyanide> i do know some french tho :)
[11:41] <NickGarvey> _cyanide: porque.. a mi me gusta..
[11:41] <NickGarvey> heh
[11:41] <_cyanide> je ne parle pas francais :-P
[11:41] <animato> "hebrew is for wussies"? how mature ;)
[11:41] <Ng> !fr
[11:41] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:41] <Ng> ;)
[11:42] <_cyanide> Ng: check the logs...lol...thats all the french i know
[11:42] <kristian> how do i make a pastebin?
[11:42] <Ng> _cyanide: you should also a) stay on topic, b) not say stupid things about other languages
[11:42] <_cyanide> kristian: go to pastebin.com/ca paste the text, submit it, and give the url here
[11:43] <_cyanide> Ng: sorry :/
[11:43] <kristian> thx
[11:44] <cyphase> woohoo!!
[11:45] <cyphase> 3d works for longer then 10 minutes!
[11:45] <cyphase> all this time it was bad memory
[11:45] <_cyanide> lol
[11:45] <_cyanide> which card?
[11:46] <cyphase> well, i've tried a lot, all of which probably would have worked with good memory
[11:46] <kristian> www.pastebin.com/ca ? Firefox can't find the page..
[11:46] <cyphase> but this one is a geforce 6200 le
[11:46] <Ng> !pastebin
[11:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:46] <_cyanide> kristian: i meant pastebin.com or pastebin.ca
[11:46] <_cyanide> lolol
[11:46] <cyphase> i upgraded my motherboard and CPU, so i decided to reinstall..
[11:47] <cyphase> wouldn't even install with the bad memory
[11:47] <cyphase> once i took it out, it went perfect
[11:47] <_cyanide> took it out? :D
[11:48] <kentling> I'm having trouble with pastes from Abi to OOo, both from Ubuntu 6.06...
[11:48] <cyphase> the bad ram
[11:48] <cyphase> pretty much all the problems i've had with ubuntu can be traced back to bad memory
[11:48] <inflex> g'day all.  I have an Orinoco type internal laptop wifi-card that requires to be setup within about 1 second of the modules being loaded - normally on distros like Slackware I do this all in a small script - but in Ubuntu I have no idea how to sort this out
[11:49] <inflex> ie, I do  modprobe orinoco && ifconfig eth1 ... && iwconfig eth1 ...
[11:49] <kristian> Ok people! Those of u which have a enormous experience with graphic cards can take a look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528 ! This is after installation with easyubuntu. Someone help, please! ;)
[11:50] <stefano> hey
[11:50] <stefano> someone wat to talk about sex
[11:50] <stefano> wan
[11:50] <stefano> want
[11:50] <Ng> kristian: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[11:50] <kristian> 9800 Pro, Ati
[11:50] <Ng> stefano: shoosh
[11:50] <Ng> kristian: have you done the ati driver install?
[11:50] <kristian> yes
[11:50] <NickGarvey> stefano: vete
[11:51] <NickGarvey> stefano: por favor
[11:51] <stefano> nokiero
[11:51] <stefano> me molesto
[11:51] <stefano> porke
[11:51] <stefano> ?
[11:51] <Ng> !ops
[11:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:51] <neutrinomass> stefano: Please no sex discussions in here - it's a _linux_ channel. I'm sure you'll find plenty of other channels suitable for such discussions :)
[11:51] <stefano> ok
[11:51] <kristian> ng, yes
[11:52] <_cyanide> when activating the universe and multiverse repos from synaptic, im getting this error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) <-- *HELP PLEASE*
[11:52] <Ng> ta :)
[11:52] <NickGarvey> and the ban hammer come down
[11:52] <Ng> kristian: hmm, well I'm afraid I'm not the greatest ati expert ever, but I'd suggest having a look through the ati instructions on the wiki again and checking you did everything
[11:52] <NickGarvey> neutrinomass: I can't find any other channels, #sex forwards me to you-have-got-to-be-kidding
[11:53] <kristian> ng, i used easyubuntu
[11:53] <Ng> NickGarvey: irrelevant and still off topic.
[11:53] <NickGarvey> neutrinomass: and #giggity is empty
[11:53] <NickGarvey> Ng: (joke..)
[11:53] <Ng> kristian: then I would suggest you take a look at the ati instruction in the wiki for the first time :)
[11:53] <Ng> !ati > kristian
[11:53] <kristian> for the 5th time :P
[11:53] <_cyanide> can anyone help me with the repository problem?
[11:54] <lupobianco> irc.hurricaneirc.org 6669
[11:54] <kristian> why am i gonna use that howto when easyubuntuo have installed it already?
[11:54] <weihello> what's problem?
[11:54] <_cyanide> when activating the universe and multiverse repos from synaptic, im getting this error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz: Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) <-- *HELP PLEASE*
[11:54] <Ng> kristian: because evidently "easy"ubuntu got something wrong, which is to be expected from such things, unfortunately
[11:54] <kristian> then easy ubuntu did the same thing yesterday :P
[11:55] <Ng> kristian: this is why we generally don't recommend people use such things, because they are never as good as reading the instructions yourself :)
[11:56] <kristian> okay, but hybriud told me to try one more time. my mistake
[11:56] <kristian> can I install with that guide now, after i have used the easyubuntu?
[11:56] <weihello> backup sourcelist
[11:56] <_cyanide> weihello: me? how?
[11:56] <neutrinomass> Seveas: NickGarvey was (maybe inappropriately) joking but he usually helps out in here. (just pointing out he's not a random troll)
[11:57] <Ng> kristian: I would expect so, but I'm not 100% sure, I haven't really used the ati drivers
[11:57] <kristian> okke
[11:57] <_cyanide> kristian: gimme that pastebin link again please
[11:57] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16528
[11:58] <_cyanide> kristian: you using the ati drivers?
[11:58] <Rhinox> I want to install Ubuntu 6.06, but I have to set framebuffer to False at bootprompt. How do I do that in Ubuntu 6.06 ?
[11:58] <kristian> i have installed it with easyubuntu
[11:58] <kristian> maybe they are not beeing used
[11:59] <_cyanide> right
[11:59] <kristian> that happen yesterday...
[11:59] <_cyanide> its still using mesa 3d
[11:59] <kristian> but how activate them?:P yes
[11:59] <kristian> mesa 3d, buuurn
[11:59] <_cyanide> im pretty new to ubuntu...but in gentoo, i had to load the radeon module and add it to the defaults
[11:59] <_cyanide> try modprobe radeon
[11:59] <yallaman> anyone here have some knowledge with gtk themes and such?
[12:00] <kristian> how do i do that?
[12:00] <jrib> Rhinox: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:00] <_cyanide> sudo modprobe radeon in the console
[12:01] <_cyanide> does it load?
[12:01] <kristian> 2 secs
[12:01] <_cyanide> ok
[12:01] <kristian> module not ofund
[12:01] <kristian> found
[12:02] <_cyanide> then it hasn't been built
[12:02] <_cyanide> which means that the package hasnt been installed correctly ;)
[12:02] <Rhinox> jrib: BEFORE installing it :-) When booting from the CD. I must deactivate framebuffer, or else my weird graphics card will not work. I've done it before in Debian. linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false worked in Debian.
[12:02] <kristian> i wrote wrong.
[12:02] <The_Guardian> hey does showmount not work with dapper?
[12:02] <kristian> but when i wrote right, nothing happend:P
[12:02] <_cyanide> thats good then :)
[12:03] <_cyanide> so the module is loaded now
[12:03] <_cyanide> all thats left is switching to the ati interface :)
[12:03] <_cyanide> and im clueless about it... lol
[12:03] <_cyanide> check the usage docs...
[12:04] <kristian> uuuh, how? :P
[12:04] <_cyanide> www.ubuntu.org ? :-P
[12:04] <_cyanide> im pretty new to ubuntu myself...(about an hour) :)
[12:05] <The_Guardian> can someone help me with why showmount is not appearing at all?
[12:05] <kristian> cool :)
[12:05] <kristian> but..
[12:05] <kristian> i don't have any experience with this at all :P what should i search for?:P
[12:05] <_cyanide> !ati
[12:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <_cyanide> ^^ :)
[12:06] <kristian> what am i gonna do? :P i can that link in my head now;P
[12:06] <_cyanide> read...
[12:06] <_cyanide> lol
[12:07] <weihello> is there a ruby channel in this server?
[12:07] <The_Guardian> nvm I fixed my own problem
[12:07] <The_Guardian> dapper doesn't come with nfs-common
[12:08] <kristian> install everything manual u mena?
[12:08] <kristian> mean*
[12:09] <posu> Hi, anybody knows how to stop tomcat starting at boot time?
[12:09] <ani> neutrinomass: hi got the bug report. but there is no place to attach the file on the site
[12:10] <cx42> hi everybody
[12:10] <kristian> or...?
[12:10] <_cyanide> yes, manually
[12:10] <_cyanide> it wont be difficult
[12:10] <_cyanide> and youll have fun installing it :)
[12:10] <neutrinomass> ani: On your right, "add attachment"
[12:11] <_cyanide> tho ati in general sucks in linux :-P
[12:11] <mindspit> anyone knows how to add new fortunes cookies ? i need to create just the .dat files !
[12:11] <kristian> i have done before, but can u explain to me how I do the last step? I just don't understand it:P
[12:11] <_cyanide> the switching part?
[12:11] <dooglus> weihello: #ruby-lang
[12:11] <ani> neutrinomass: not there. i logged in but theres no such link. searched the page also
[12:11] <cx42> can we help me about file open (php files) -> when i'm click on a .php file, i have a msgbox that ask me what i wan't to do, start in a shell, execute, start, etc, but i wan't to start automaticaly on my editor scite without the prompt, how i can do it ?
[12:12] <neutrinomass> ani: There's a menu on your right. It's sixth from the top :)
[12:12] <cx42> (sorry for my english, i'm french :p)
[12:12] <dooglus> cx42: we've got a special room for people like you:
[12:12] <dooglus> !fr
[12:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:13] <_cyanide> kristian: which card is it?
[12:13] <cx42> dooglus: yes but nobody response at my question (so busy ?)
[12:13] <cx42> so = too (sorry)
[12:13] <kristian> 9800 pro, ati
[12:13] <kristian> nder Section "Screen" The Identifier line needs to be changed to:
[12:13] <_cyanide> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI <-- easy as pie :-/
[12:13] <cx42> and with english chat, i learn the language in the same time
[12:14] <ani> neutrinomass: the 6th link is 'Uploads:' and under that main, restricted, universal etc.
[12:14] <_cyanide> and btw, you should be loading the fglrx module, not radeon...my bad
[12:14] <dooglus> cx42: so is this your web site that's returning a .php file?
[12:14] <ani> neutrinomass: are you on that page right now?
[12:14] <_cyanide> please go thru the page.. its good enough
[12:14] <kristian> emm, ofc.. :P
[12:14] <mindspit> ok i found it using  " #  strfile file_full_of_cookies file_full_of_cookies.dat
[12:14] <dooglus> cx42: it's a badly configured web server
[12:15] <cx42> dooglus: in my www directory, i have some files in .php, and when i open this file by double clicking, (for editing the page), i have a prompt with 4 possibilities about this file
[12:15] <neutrinomass> ani: Apparently you haven't filed a bug :-/ Do you have a link to the bug report ?
[12:15] <kristian> i start at the top, and write the codes, and what am i supposed to do with this:nder Section "Screen" The Identifier line needs to be changed to:
[12:15] <cx42> dooglus: and i would like to open it directly without the prompt
[12:15] <_cyanide> you should be editing xorg.xonf
[12:15] <_cyanide> type sudogedit/etc/X11/xorg.conf in your console
[12:16] <ani> neutrinomass: no actually. a link as in i have to upload the file somewhere?
[12:16] <The_Guardian> why would I be getting mount clntudp_create: RPC: Program not registered from showmount?
[12:16] <_cyanide> it will open xorg.conf in a text editor
[12:17] <ndlovu> Hi all. Ubuntu is really struggling to rip track 8 on a CD that's got absolutely no scratches or anything. Track 1-7 ripped fine. What could be the problem? Drivers? I've tried Sound Juicer and CD Player, same thing.
[12:17] <neutrinomass> ani: You have to file a bug first, http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+filebug . Enter all the relevant information and submit the report. After that, you will see a menu on your right and the 6th option from the top is "add attachment" :)
[12:17] <ndlovu> It can't play it either, btw
[12:17] <_cyanide> kristian: ?
[12:18] <ani> neutrinomass: oh. i was looking on the main page itself. sorry
[12:18] <kristian> yes
[12:18] <kristian> i worked with the codes :P
[12:18] <_cyanide> changed the screen section?
[12:18] <kristian> no, not yet
[12:18] <_cyanide> ok
[12:18] <kristian> can u take a look at the terminal "log" after the install now?
[12:18] <_cyanide> sure
[12:18] <_cyanide> pastebin it ;)
[12:19] <kristian> yes;)
[12:19] <cx42> dooglus: ok i go to eat, so, thank you for your help !! by and good afternoon
[12:19] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16533
[12:19] <inflex> does ubuntu have the equivilant of an rc.local ?
[12:20] <_cyanide> my dutch sucks :-P...but that seems to look good
[12:20] <The_Guardian_> wee fixed my showmount problem
[12:21] <blkdomini\out> 221
[12:21] <_cyanide> kristian: now to edit xorg.conf
[12:21] <jeanmarc> french?
[12:22] <_cyanide> !fr
[12:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:22] <miles> what?
[12:22] <jeanmarc> do you speak french?
[12:22] <miles> hu u?
[12:22] <Ng> inflex: /etc/rc.local
[12:22] <miles> no
[12:22] <aixing> controvercy to help me decide: CentOS vs Ubuntu?
[12:22] <kristian> _cyanide, first, take look :P
[12:22] <_cyanide> i did...
[12:22] <_cyanide> it looks good
[12:22] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16534
[12:23] <kristian> new one:P
[12:23] <Ng> aixing: try both and see which you prefer
[12:23] <_cyanide> ok
[12:23] <miles> u all use ubuntu?
[12:23] <The_Guardian_> isn't showmount normally pretty quick for checking the export list?
[12:23] <kristian> the things im gonna switch, looks, switched:P
[12:23] <eudyptes> hi, i'm configuring a new kernell, my configuration is in pepa.config file, I need compile my new kernel accoding to this file.  How looks the ommand. I apologize of my english  thx.
[12:23] <eudyptes> command
[12:25] <_cyanide> hmmm
[12:25] <kristian> looked at it cyandie?
[12:25] <_cyanide> yep
[12:25] <_cyanide> so it must have done it automatically :-/
[12:25] <kristian> whae
[12:25] <kristian> is everything as it should?
[12:26] <_cyanide> looks like it :)
[12:26] <_cyanide> try rebooting
[12:26] <kristian> i do ;) can i reboot lika ctrl alt backspace or?
[12:26] <eudyptes> thank you, the #ubuntu_cz help me.
[12:26] <_cyanide> no, a proper reboot would be better ;)
[12:26] <linux1> hiya i cant seen to get this pc to access my windows network
[12:27] <kristian> right ;)
[12:27] <kristian> seeya
[12:27] <linux1> i cant see my msnetwork but i cant see the computer it was there eairl but it gone now
[12:28] <Staz> hmm, what should I be using to edit a Makefile? make causes errors if I edit the file in gedit :(
[12:28] <neutrinomass> Staz: Yes. It's a tab, not 8 spaces ;)
[12:28] <_cyanide> Staz: a cli editor would be better ;)
[12:28] <_cyanide> i love nano
[12:29] <Staz> lol
[12:29] <Staz> actually error is slightly different
[12:29] <Staz> Makefile:6: *** missing separator.  Stop.
[12:30] <Staz> so copying and pasting to gedit would have screwed it up?
[12:30] <_cyanide> could be
[12:30] <Ribs> probably
[12:30] <Ribs> gedit word-wraps
[12:30] <_cyanide> surely! :)
[12:30] <_cyanide> yeah, wordwrapping is no good :-P
[12:30] <Staz> heh nano is a gui text editor? :)
[12:30] <_cyanide> nano is cli
[12:30] <Zaph> hi all
[12:30] <Zaph> I need help..
[12:30] <Ribs> Staz: if you want to use nano, make sure you call it with the -w option
[12:30] <Ribs> like so: nano -w file.txt
[12:30] <_cyanide> nano -w <filename> to disable wrapping
[12:31] <Zaph> last week, I killed my windows machine to change 100% to Linux and OS...
[12:31] <Staz> thanks
[12:31] <Ribs> that turns off word-wrapping
[12:31] <_cyanide> Ribs: makefile got no extensions ;)
[12:31] <Ribs> it was an example
[12:31] <Zaph> I am enjoying Ubuntu, but I am finding it is too slow on my PC, which ran windows XP home just fine..
[12:31] <Zaph> what can I do to improve it
[12:31] <Zaph> ? besides getting more RAM?
[12:31] <_cyanide> Zaph: using the 3d accelerated drivers?
[12:31] <Zaph> Any ideas?
[12:31] <Zaph> _cyanide, what you mean?
[12:31] <Ng> Zaph: how much ram do you have?
[12:31] <jrib> Zaph: you can try using xfce instead of gnome?  What specs do you have?
[12:32] <_cyanide> what graphics card do you have?
[12:32] <_cyanide> using 3d accelerated drivers takes off a huge load off the processor
[12:32] <Zaph> I have a laptop... Celeron 2.5GhZ, standard grqaphics card, 40Gb hardrive, 256mb Ram
[12:32] <Zaph> I am using Gnome
[12:32] <Zaph> what is Xfce?
[12:32] <jrib> !xfce
[12:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfce
[12:32] <_cyanide> rofl
[12:32] <jrib> !xubuntu
[12:32] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[12:32] <Staz> uncut text == paste text? :)
[12:33] <_cyanide> Staz: dunno :-P
[12:33] <Zaph> so.. any ideas?
[12:33] <Zaph> I would like to stay using Linux, but if it keeps like this, I will be forced to move back to windows..
[12:34] <Ng> Zaph: what kind of graphics chipset is in the laptop?
[12:34] <Zaph> another problem also...OpenOffice.org is really slow? will getting XFCE help?
[12:34] <Zaph> Ng, how do I see what card it is?
[12:34] <_cyanide> openoffice is very slow anyways :-P
[12:35] <_cyanide> !abiword
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about abiword
[12:35] <Ng> Zaph: lspci | grep VGA
[12:35] <Zaph> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[12:35] <ufk> hiya
[12:35] <ufk> isn't there a notification area plugin for thunderbird?
[12:35] <_cyanide> thats an 855 integrated card
[12:36] <Zaph> so... can my problem be solved?
[12:36] <Minty_> anyone tell me how I can contact a staffer ??
[12:37] <_cyanide> not sure...ive only been using ubuntu for about 1 hour and 30 mins ;)
[12:37] <mjr> _cyanide, Zaph, umm, using 3d accelerated drivers doesn't automatically get a huge load off the processor...
[12:37] <jimcooncat> Zaph, nothing like RAM to spark things up, though I've been running Xubuntu on less
[12:37] <Ng> Zaph: I'd suggest installing xubuntu-desktop and logging in with that session - it will use less ram and leave more available for other things, but other than that, probably not
[12:37] <inflex> So, anyone speak Afrikaans here?
[12:37] <_cyanide> mjr: how not?
[12:37] <DarkMageZ> Minty, a ubuntu staffer or a freenode staffer?
[12:37] <Minty> freenode
[12:37] <mjr> (and yes, 855 should be accelerateable, and yes, more memory is a good answer)
[12:37] <Zaph> ok.. I'm gonna try xubuntu.. busy installing it now.
[12:38] <habtool> Inflex, i do but very slowly ;)
[12:38] <Zaph> but if it does not work, then I suppose I'll have to get rid of Linux for now...
[12:38] <mjr> 256 megs _should_ be enough for gnome tho
[12:38] <Zaph> hopefully it will work for me..
[12:38] <inflex> habtool: you live in ZA ?
[12:38] <Zaph> thanks alot guys..
[12:38] <mjr> _cyanide, how yes?
[12:38] <Minty> I need to recuperate my password for this machine as it doesnt reconise me
[12:38] <Zaph> Ng, _cyanide thanks
[12:38] <habtool> Inflex, i used to but am now in Ireland
[12:38] <_cyanide> mjr: because the graphics card is being used to render the graphics, instead of the processor?
[12:38] <inflex> habtool: that's quite a change. I used to also live in ZA
[12:39] <habtool> Inflex, where are u now days?
[12:39] <Zaph> it runs... but just not that fast.. like loading apps takes long..
[12:39] <Zaph> what other options have I got to read exec and word documents besides OpenOffice.Org?
[12:39] <DarkMageZ> Minty, you'll probley beable to find out in #freenode
[12:39] <mjr> Zaph, gnumeric and abiword or koffice
[12:39] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[12:39] <_cyanide> mjr: why wouldnt using accelerated drivers help?
[12:39] <mjr> Zaph, and yes, openoffice is a memory hog
[12:39] <inflex> habtool: Australia
[12:40] <Zaph> mjr, do they run better than openoffice?
[12:40] <DarkMageZ> Minty, they won't tell you the password, but they can unregister the account so you can reregister it
[12:40] <mjr> _cyanide, generally the 3d drivers aren't even used to draw the desktop (unless you're using some of those new things in testing such as compiz)
[12:40] <habtool> Inflex, OK, we may be off there in 2012, but enjoying the peace and quite here 1st for a while longer
[12:40] <raddy> Hello Everybody
[12:40] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[12:40] <mjr> Zaph, they should, in limited memory.
[12:41] <Minty> darkmageZ yes that I undestand but am unable to contact them so that they can do this
[12:41] <raddy> any one using gdesklets
[12:41] <inflex> habtool: That's understandable.
[12:41] <_cyanide> bit ive always observed that using accelerated drivers makes the screen response a lot better
[12:41] <Zaph> thanks mjr ... I'll give it a try.. u recommend koffice?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Zaph: abiword is pretty quick to start
[12:41] <_cyanide> Zaph: id recommend abiword
[12:41] <mjr> Zaph, I'm more an abiword/gnumeric guy, since I'm a gnome person. Koffice is for KDE, but you can try that as well.
[12:41] <inflex> LyX !!
[12:41] <Zaph> but can I read exec files in abiword?
[12:41] <thoreauputic> Zaph: koffice is nice, but abiword is more mature - less issues
[12:41] <Zaph> will these work with xfce?
[12:41] <mjr> Zaph, you mean "excel", and no, since it's a word processor. Gnumeric is a spreadsheet.
[12:42] <mjr> they will
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Zaph: you mean excel? Use gnumeric
[12:42] <Zaph> ok... and I can download these in synaptic packaga manager?
[12:42] <mjr> yes
[12:42] <thoreauputic> Zaph: yes
[12:42] <thoreauputic> heh
[12:42] <thoreauputic> mjr ;)
[12:42] <DarkMageZ> could someone help Minty with contacting a freenode op?
[12:42] <Ng> Zaph: if you're installing the xubuntu-desktop package you're already getting abiword and gnumeric :)
[12:42] <Zaph> thanks for all the help..
[12:42] <_cyanide> lol, the minute Zaph spoke about windows, 2-3 people are helping him at once :-P
[12:42] <Zaph> thanks everyone... greatly appreciated...
[12:43] <Zaph> I'll give it a bach.. hopefully it will work..
[12:43] <Zaph> I really want to stay totally OS... but if it is too slow.. I have no other choice.. :)
[12:43] <mjr> Zaph, and btw, I don't think you should be forced to move to xfce with your memory; try just changing the office programs first and see if that helps
[12:43] <Zaph> thanks everyone... :)
[12:43] <raddy> i am trying to enable lmsensor in gdesklets
[12:43] <raddy> but it shows blank sensor
[12:43] <_cyanide> yeah, 256mb isnt THAT less
[12:43] <ufk> is there a deb package for vmware?
[12:43] <mjr> Zaph, as said, openoffice is probably the thing sucking up most of your memory :] 
[12:44] <Ng> DarkMageZ: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#helpfromstaff
[12:44] <Zaph> cool mjr .. thanks...
[12:44] <_cyanide> openoffice sucks :-P...compiling it in gentoo takes HOURS :-P
[12:44] <posu> tomcat web server starts every time i boot my PC, how would i stop it from starting every time i boot? tomct is not in administation->services list..
[12:44] <Zaph> do I need to uninstall openoffice then?
[12:44] <_cyanide> if you want to free up some space, yes
[12:44] <mjr> Zaph, no, you can have them all installed at once if hd space is not an issue
[12:44] <Ng> _cyanide: that's personal opinion and offtopic. you might think it sucks, others don't and most people don't compile it themselves.
[12:44] <mjr> of course you _can_ remove it
[12:45] <_cyanide> Ng: do i have to speak like a politician in here? :-P
[12:45] <Zaph> cool.. thanks
[12:45] <Ng> _cyanide: this is a support channel, if you're not asking or answering a question, you're off topic
[12:45] <Zaph> ok.. xubuntu.. installed...
[12:45] <Zaph> lemme restart and see how it is..
[12:45] <Zaph> I;ll be back to let you all know.
[12:45] <Zaph> cheers
[12:45] <Staz> bugger, still get that Makefile:6: *** missing separator.  Stop. error
[12:45] <_cyanide> and giving an opinion is offtopic?
[12:46] <Staz> tried nano
[12:46] <kristian> back
[12:46] <_cyanide> Staz: your makefile might be having an error ;)
[12:46] <thoreauputic> _cyanide: bagging openoffice is kind of silly, since it is one of the most important apps for windows/linux migration for many people
[12:46] <kristian> _cyanide, how can i check if i works ok now?
[12:47] <_cyanide> fglrxinfo
[12:47] <kristian> thx
[12:47] <_cyanide> whats the output?
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[12:47] <kristian> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[12:47] <kristian> noo!!!
[12:47] <gore_> this is goign to sound really stupid
[12:47] <_cyanide> :-/
[12:47] <gore_> but how do I add panesl to kde
[12:47] <Staz> make works fine before I edit the file :P
[12:47] <kristian> i totally hate ubuntu :P
[12:48] <gore_> uuugh
[12:48] <gore_> nm
[12:48] <kristian> brb
[12:49] <Staz> there exists any GUI text editors for inux appropriate for editing make files?
[12:49] <Staz> linux*
[12:50] <thoreauputic> Staz: of course - gedit, kate, mousepad, scite....
[12:50] <thoreauputic> lots of them
[12:50] <Staz> gedit buggers up my makefiles ;)
[12:50] <_cyanide> yeah...just remember to turn off word wrapping
[12:51] <Staz> I can turn off word wrap in gedit?
[12:51] <thoreauputic> Staz: sure
[12:51] <Staz> YES! thanks mate
[12:51] <_cyanide> can someone pastebin their sources.list file please?
[12:52] <Ng> !sources
[12:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:52] <_cyanide> !easysource
[12:52] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:53] <Staz> what other files when you edit them, you have to make sure that there is no text wrapping?
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> *** GLIB >= 1.2.6 not installed - please install GLIB first ***
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> whats the package name for glib 1.2.6
[12:54] <netrunne1> greetings everyone!
[12:54] <Ng> Tommy2k4: are you trying to compile something?
[12:54] <_cyanide> Staz: if editing code, never turn on word wrapping
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> yes
[12:54] <Ng> Tommy2k4: libglib1.2-dev
[12:54] <Pitel> will the new ubuntu edgy eft be 6.10 or 6.12?
[12:54] <Tommy2k4> ty
[12:55] <thoreauputic> Pitel: 6.10
[12:55] <Ng> Pitel: it's scheduled for release in october, so 6.10
[12:55] <Staz> thanks _cyanide you have been an awesome help.
[12:55] <_cyanide> lol, np :)
[12:55] <_cyanide> Ng: ooh! so the 6.xx is determined by the month of release?
[12:55] <n3trunner> i would just like to know, how can i found out the support webcams for dapper?
[12:55] <Tommy2k4> wow this is downloading slow from ubuntu repos
[12:55] <BCK14> in sessions what do i have to add to the start of my command to run the command as root when i boot up ?
[12:55] <n3trunner> *supported
[12:56] <thoreauputic> _cyanide: correct
[12:56] <Ng> _cyanide: and the 6 means 2006
[12:56] <_cyanide> ok
[12:56] <Ng> BCK14: what kind of command is it?
[12:56] <_cyanide> no dates? else 6.6.6 would be awesome? :-D
[12:56] <BCK14> to start lampp
[12:56] <BCK14> opt/lampp/lampp start
[12:57] <Ng> BCK14: you'd probably want to put that in /etc/rc.local
[12:57] <n3trunner> is there a command in shell, or a section in the ubuntu website to find out all the supported webcams for dapper drake?
[12:57] <BCK14> ok ty Ng
[12:57] <Ng> BCK14: or use the ubuntu lamp packages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:57] <BCK14> ill put it in rc.local
[12:57] <BCK14> :)
[12:58] <jrib> !webcam
[12:58] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:58] <Ng> BCK14: note that using third party LAMP stuff means you won't get security updates for it from ubuntu
[12:58] <Staz> damn I still get the missing separator error :( (Even after I turned off wordwrap!)
[12:58] <BCK14> Ng: i got it from www.apachefriends.org
[12:59] <_cyanide> your makefile is borked
[12:59] <Ng> BCK14: indeed, so you will need to monitor them for updates
[12:59] <BCK14> hmm ok
[12:59] <n3trunner> oh great!
[12:59] <n3trunner> thanks for that :)
[12:59] <BCK14> ill have a look in synaptic
[12:59] <axisys> how to chage screen resolution?
[12:59] <BCK14> but i havent had any updates available to me for a week or so now
[01:00] <_cyanide> axisys: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> *** GTK+ >= 1.2.6 not installed - please install GTK+ first ***
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> what package do i need this time
[01:00] <_cyanide> thats gtk
[01:00] <Ng> BCK14: that doesn't mean there won't be any - dapper server packages will get security updates for 5 years
[01:00] <BCK14> yeh
[01:00] <axisys> _cyanide: it has only the default option .. u cant change it
[01:00] <BCK14> i know nw
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> full package name?
[01:00] <BCK14> * Ng
[01:00] <Ng> Tommy2k4: libgtk1.2-dev
[01:00] <BCK14> rm -rf /opt/lampp
[01:00] <BCK14> ;)
[01:00] <_cyanide> axisys: in that case, your xorg.conf isnt completely filled...
[01:00] <jrib> Tommy2k4: apt-cache search -n lib gtk dev
[01:00] <Tommy2k4> ty :D
[01:01] <axisys> _cyanide: hmm..
[01:01] <_cyanide> ask someone for help on adding the required resolutions
[01:01] <Staz> Makefile:8: *** missing separator (did you mean TAB instead of 8 spaces?)   --> Now I am getting this on every line lol
[01:01] <_cyanide> Staz: so are you adding blankspaces instead of tab?
[01:01] <_cyanide> lol
[01:02] <Staz> cyanide : I copied and pasted some text in
[01:02] <_cyanide> thats the problem i guess
[01:02] <Staz> hmm the errors are only on lines that I pasted in
[01:02] <_cyanide> whitespaces are no good
[01:02] <_cyanide> lol
[01:02] <axisys> this is how my xor.conf looks like http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WHjTJV69.html. still screen resolution gives only one choice
[01:02] <Staz> thank god I thought I would have to do em all :P
[01:02] <andi5> hi. is there a file i can edit so that update-grub does not specify defoptions="quiet splash" each time?
[01:02] <axisys> xorg.conf rather
[01:03] <kristian> back
[01:03] <kristian> you should seen my screensaver, lagg,lagg,lagg,lagg,lagg:P
[01:03] <Zaph> hmmm
[01:03] <ufk> in nautilus i don't have an address bar i have buttons for each directory i'm at, is there a way to fix it back to an address bar?
[01:03] <Zaph> so... It is a bit faster... but not that much better..
[01:04] <axisys> should screnn resoltn give my multiple choices based on this http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WHjTJV69.html
[01:04] <dt-oz-gc> Hi all. I am running Dapper. On some windows the menus show hotkeys as eg "keyboard label|Alt+A". Does anyone else have this problem? Any idea where to find a fix?
[01:04] <Zaph> also... AbiWord does not import my word documents properly??? any ideas?
[01:04] <farous> ufk: in a terminal type gconf-editor
[01:04] <ufk> thanks alot i found it
[01:04] <ufk> ctrl-l
[01:05] <farous> ufk ok
[01:05] <andi5> ufk: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[01:05] <argon> Hello! since I`ve installed Dapper I have not been able to boot from cd. I have tried different cds. The bios says to first boot from cd, then HD, but it will not boot from cd... what to do?
[01:05] <cydrive> hello wondering if anyone can give me some help with a broadcom wireless card for my laptop im new to linux but not computers so im not a complete idiot any help would be appreciated though
[01:05] <se1> has anyone configured blackbox menus on dapper ?
[01:06] <Staz> maje
[01:06] <Staz> sorry wrong window :)
[01:07] <farous> cydrive: either ndiswrapper or bcm43xx package in either case you need a good working window drive (bcm .inf or bcm .sys) file for your card
[01:07] <dt-oz-gc> argon: Bios is checked b4 anything on disk. Dapper/grub is on disk. It cant be a Dapper/grub problem.
[01:07] <C_REATiVE_> kvcd-t mivel lehet lejtszani vlc -n kvl ?
[01:07] <ufk> ohhh
[01:07] <ufk> thanks andi5
[01:07] <J_P> hi all
[01:08] <argon> dt-oz-gc: thanks.
[01:08] <cydrive> Farous do you knwo where i could get the window driver because i currently have no windows os on my computer i erased my whole hardrive when i installed ubuntu
[01:08] <_cyanide> cydrive: on the cd which you got with the card
[01:09] <farous> cydrive: depending on your card there are links on the web. give me a min
[01:09] <andi5> re: is there a file i can edit so that update-grub does not specify defoptions="quiet splash" each time?
[01:10] <dibblego> has anyone seen this issue? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836
[01:10] <cydrive> Thank you so much i extremly appreciate your help
[01:10] <farous> cydrive: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
[01:11] <farous> cydrive: look at list of drives of cards known to work
 I shall hunt into update-grub. 1. check in Synaptic for its config files, eg /etc/... or /usr/lib/update-grub...
[01:11] <cydrive> Thank you i will try it now to see if it will work thank you so much i hate using a wired connection
[01:11] <farous> cydrive: bcm43xx will have native support hopefully in edgy if they can include the new linux kernel
[01:12] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: i may be wrong, but update-grub is in package grub and seems to hardcode this variable, but i just hoped someone knew better :)
[01:12] <farous> cydrive: install ndiswrapper-utils and ndisgtk packages then look for the drive
[01:12] <cydrive> ok
[01:12] <Staz> possible to when doing make, make it scroll one page @ a time?
[01:13] <gentoo_fanboy> Staz: make | less :)
[01:13] <amias> Staz, pipe it to less e.g. make all | less
[01:13] <diop> someone has a wifi connexion ? i d like to make mine work
[01:14] <diop> i ve tried so many commands
[01:14] <amias> diop , works from the gui for me
[01:14] <dt-oz-gc> andi5. Yes. I see I need to get grub-doc
 rtfm?
[01:15] <farous> i had some troubles with my file sys. ext3 is ok but when it breaks it breaks badly here. any suggestion to which format should i use for a new partition am going to format
[01:15] <amias> anyone else got an unstartable openoffice on dapper ?
[01:15] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: tell me which one .... update-grub is a debian addon, so the info page does not contain any word about it
[01:16] <farous> amias: open the apll in a terminal to see what is wrong. try oowriter
[01:16] <amias> farous, ext3 is very stable , have you checked your disk for bad blocks ? any fs will fail if there are badblocks on the disk
[01:16] <amias> farous, it says /usr/lib/openoffice/program/javaldx: error while loading shared libraries: libjvmfwk.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:16] <amias> /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: error while loading shared libraries: libvos3gcc3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:16] <amias> ** (process:7287): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / abnormal early exit ...
[01:16] <farous> amias: will do yet that is a new harddisk and pretty reliable
[01:16] <aedwards232> I am writing a script and I will have to pass over 2000 arguments to a command, is there any issue in doing this? the command by the way is nmap
[01:17] <dt-oz-gc> I just got grub-doc back now, after a machine cleanout and reload of everything. Gimme 5 mins to read it.
[01:17] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: yep, maybe i have not read everything and am plain wrong :)
[01:17] <amias> farous,  perfection doesn't exist , new disks can have bad sectors , good admins pre-test all disk before use
[01:17] <farous> amias: you got it then install the missing lib
[01:18] <farous> amias: i did test the harddisk
[01:18] <farous> i always get lost links and fcsk just delete the missing files. one of the files was a lib that made my pc unbootable
[01:18] <gentoo_fanboy> lol
[01:19] <farous> amias: had to look up its name and had to symbol. link the lib for it to work again
[01:19] <farous> anyway this problem is just recent on two pcs running ubuntu. that is why i asked
[01:19] <ufk> is there an ubuntu debian package?
[01:19] <ufk> ah
[01:20] <ufk> i ment is there an ubuntu vmware package? :)
[01:20] <amias> farous, you tried badblocks ?
[01:20] <Ng> ufk: there's a package for vmware-player
[01:20] <jrib> !info vmware-player
[01:20] <kristian> cyanide, you here?
[01:20] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.1-4 (dapper), package size 11563 kB, installed size 31248 kB
[01:20] <farous> on one harddisk will test the other
[01:20] <ufk> -player?
[01:20] <gentoo_fanboy> kristian: yes :)
[01:21] <amias> farous, helps to know if hardware is playing up
[01:21] <cydrive> can someone help im trying to install ndiswrapper and im doing the first part of the instal using the command tar zxvf ndiswrapper-1.18.tar.gz though im getting an error cannot open no such file or directy exists
[01:21] <farous> will do so
[01:21] <gentoo_fanboy> cydrive: thats because the file doesnt exist where you're typing the command
[01:21] <compengi> yesterday i hibernated my pc, when i turned it on back the kernel didn't start up
[01:21] <farous> cydrive: ndiswrapper util is in the repos
[01:21] <gentoo_fanboy> type ls to see if the file is in that folder
[01:21] <andi5> cydrive: ls -l ndiswrapper-1.18.tar.gz .... works?
[01:22] <kristian> gentoo_fanboy, when i write sudo modprobe radeon i get a error message.
[01:22] <gentoo_fanboy> try sudo modprobe fglrx
[01:22] <kristian> i didn't get that before
[01:22] <cydrive> no it does not
[01:22] <kristian> okai
[01:22] <farous> kristian: do you have fglrx loaded
[01:22] <amias> can someone with a working install of dapper tell me if they have either of libjvmfwk.so.3 or libvos3gcc3.so ?
[01:22] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas?
[01:22] <farous> amias: give me a min and tell me where to look
[01:22] <andi5> cydrive: then `cd` into the directory that contains the tarball
[01:22] <kristian> sudo modprobe fglrx, nothing happend
[01:23] <farous> kristian: lsmod |grep fglrx
[01:23] <kristian> then fglrx is loaded right?
[01:23] <jrib> amias: I have both in /usr/lib/openoffice/program/
[01:23] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas?
[01:24] <kristian> fglrx                 388908  0
[01:24] <kristian> agpgart                34888  2 fglrx,amd64_agp
[01:24] <burepe1> can I use ktorrent 2.0 beta in dapper?
[01:24] <farous> kristian: it is loaded
[01:24] <kristian> nice
[01:24] <Ro1> 'k' symbololizes kde, but i'm a noob
[01:24] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[01:24] <kristian> but does it work?
[01:24] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas?
[01:25] <amias> jrib, i don't have them , could you tell me which package they come from (dpkg -S /path/to/file )
[01:25] <jrib> amias: openoffice.org-core
[01:25] <farous> kristian: if you have fglrx-control package installed run fglrxinfo
[01:25] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas????????????????????????????????????????????????
[01:25] <amias> jrib, tar -muchly
[01:26] <jrib> amias: packages.ubuntu.com can let you search for packages that contain a package too
[01:26] <kristian> i don't have fglrx-control pacakge installed, i think, when i run fglrxinfo, mesa comes up
[01:26] <Ro1> no one can help me?
[01:26] <jrib> erm file I mean
[01:26] <amias> jrib, cool thanks
[01:26] <farous> kristian: did you change your xorg.conf file
[01:26] <kristian> no
[01:26] <andi5> Ro1: so what did you do?
[01:26] <stefg> Anyone suceeded to rebuild the _original_ -25 kernel from the _original_-sources with the _original_-config? I'll always get a build error :-(
[01:26] <kristian> it was already changed
[01:26] <kristian> i think
[01:27] <farous> kristian: did you install the xorg-driver-fglrx from repos?
[01:27] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas??
[01:27] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get build-dep openoffice ;)
 u still here?
[01:27] <kristian> farous, I installed from the howto thing, ati, im not sure
[01:27] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: no ;-)
[01:27] <Ro1> i have a question..i have 4318 broadcom chip running dapper...i did the instructions on forum...and my light is on now...but i dont think its working...any ideas??
[01:28] <SeanTater> J-_: install superkaramba instead
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Ro1: please stop rpeating so often
[01:28] <McScruff> lo
[01:28] <gnomefreak> repeating*
[01:28] <Ro1> well, no one is answering if they could help or not
[01:28] <farous> kristian: would have been easier if you installed from the repos. why take the hard road if it is already done for you
[01:28] <NickGarvey> Ro1: mm I never got wireless working in ubuntu
[01:28] <thoreauputic> !patience
[01:28] <dt-oz-gc> ;-). ok, i ended up in my /boot/grub/menu.lst file. There is info in there.
[01:28] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:28] <NickGarvey> !patience > ro1
[01:28] <s-toned> The following works in a shell, but not with crontab: date >> /var/log/status$(date +%Y-%m). Why not? (It worked with debian, as I recall.)
[01:28] <kristian> farous, what is the repos?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> Ro1: they will answer if they can help and are not busy helping another
[01:28] <J-_> will superkaramba  screw anything up if i try to install it with gtk 2.0?
[01:28] <NickGarvey> Ro1: but I can tell you what I did in other distros..
[01:28] <farous> !repos > kristian
[01:29] <amias> Ro1, what kind of adapter are you using ? what kind of security does the network use ?
[01:29] <Ro1> i dont think that will help much nickgarvey
[01:29] <Ro1> broadcom 4318 54g
[01:29] <aLPHa_LeaK> is tell bla about bla outdated? ;)
[01:29] <farous> kristian: it is the ftp sites that have all the compiled bin packages for you
[01:29] <NickGarvey> Ro1: yeah I have the same card
[01:29] <Ro1> no security
[01:29] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: yes, but it does not seem to help
[01:29] <thoreauputic> aLPHa_LeaK: still works afaik
[01:29] <kristian> farous, ok... can i use them now?
[01:29] <idefix> how do I know if I have Narrowband/Light broadband/Broadband or another type of connection?
[01:29] <NickGarvey> Ro1: run iwconfig and ifconfig and pastebin them
[01:29] <Ro1> ok...will do
[01:30] <farous> can users direct ubotu with tell anymore ?
[01:30] <aLPHa_LeaK> thoreauputic: yeah, theyre probably all in a hurry ;)
[01:30] <McScruff> with the install app on the live cd (ubiquity) is there a way to stop it installing a boot loader?
[01:30] <njan> idefix, ash whoever provides your connection for you?:
[01:30] <njan> *ask
[01:30] <NickGarvey> farous: yes, but > is shorter
[01:30] <farous> kristian: open synaptic is a nice front end for the package management
[01:30] <amias> Rol, tried this -  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-191084.html ?
[01:30] <gnomefreak> farous: everyone can send a factoid
[01:30] <kenas> how can i run 3ddesktop ?
[01:30] <farous> gnomefreak: did not work for me. for i used to get a feedback am not anymore
[01:30] <gnomefreak> farous: you will not recieve anything if sent
[01:30] <farous> gnomefreak: ok
[01:30] <gnomefreak> farous: its not the same bot your used to
[01:31] <farous> :)
[01:31] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: aaaahh.... they suck ;-)
[01:31] <dt-oz-gc> andi5. I am looking at lines '# kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=771', and '# defoptions=quiet splash'. Maybe grub reads the top stuff there, and rewrites the stuff at the bottom - the actual boot commands - based on those top lines plus whatever kernels it finds.
[01:31] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: i changed defoptions=quiet splash  to defoptions=    (empty string), but update-grub refilled the primer... so now i set defoptions=a and it works ;-)
[01:31] <cydrive> farous thanks for your help sucks im so used to DOS commands i got my cd command mixed lol thanks though now i cna finish the instal
[01:31] <amias> kenas, before xgl i used 3ddesktop and i launched it from a button on the panel
[01:31] <kristian> farous, ok, what do i search for?
[01:32] <farous> cydrive: good luck
[01:32] <dt-oz-gc> andi5. What is 'a'?
[01:32] <farous> kristian: you need to enable extra repos first
[01:32] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: it is a non-empty string :)
[01:32] <kristian> i have enabled univrese
[01:32] <farous> !easysource > kristian
[01:32] <farous> kristian: there is multiverse too
[01:33] <J-_> will superkaramba run in gnome?
[01:33] <dt-oz-gc> Yeah but what does update-grub do with it? .. discard it as non-sense?
[01:33] <amias> yay, openoffice is back after a forced reinstall of openoffice.org-core
[01:33] <kwjp> I have a quick question about getting x to work again.. I tried to update my nvidia driver, but I somehow messed up the config file. I know it automatically made a backup, but does anyone know where I might find it?
[01:33] <Minty> how can i ask questions on freenode as my question are shown #freenode-social :Cannot send to channel
[01:33] <andi5> well, it leaves the line defoptions=a and appends it to the kernel line (_without_ splash&quiet)
[01:33] <amias> kwjp,  /etc/X11/
[01:33] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: in stark contrast to defoptions=
[01:34] <kwjp> thanks.. I'll look there, but I might be back
[01:34] <dt-oz-gc> So 'defoptions=a' is repeated into your kernel lines? What does 'defoptions=a' mean?
[01:34] <farous> amias: do you happen to use aptitude
[01:35] <kristian> farous, ok, done
[01:35] <amias> farous, nope dpkg --force all --purge then apt-get install
[01:35] <rapha> Argl.
[01:35] <rapha> Is it even possible to buy a navigation system WITHOUT needing a Windows PDA???
[01:35] <farous> kristian: ok remeber did you change xorg.conf file or did you even backit up
[01:35] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: puhh... "defoptions= " (with space) works too.... a does not mean anything, i just did not expect update-grub to ignore the explicit declaration of defoptions as empty string (so i took a short nonempty one)
[01:36] <kristian> i haven't done anything with the xorg.conf file
[01:36] <farous> amias: ok. i ment sometimes regular use of aptitude result in those wierd removal of packages
[01:36] <cydrive> Quick question im on the compiling version of ndiswrapper and i put the line make distclean as it says but i just get an eror mae is not a command
[01:36] <farous> kristian: you should have changed the driver from ati to fglrx
[01:36] <NickGarvey> cydrive: apt-get install build-essential
[01:36] <andi5> cydrive: mae is not a command (you mean make)
[01:37] <dt-oz-gc> andi5: Yeah You need to put a valid command in. Maybe 'defoptions=quiet' will be OK.
[01:37] <kristian> i think it's already changed, but i'll do it
[01:37] <NickGarvey> cydrive: "sudo apt-get install build-essential" actually
[01:37] <cydrive> yes i mean make k key gets jammed sometimes
[01:37] <posu> what is the application dedicated to managing rcx.d configuration files in ubuntu or there is no such app?
[01:37] <s-toned> rapha: there are nav systems for palm and some mobile phone systems (symbian(??))
[01:37] <farous> kristian: wait we can check
[01:37] <amias> farous: i think using dpkg --force all can do that too ;-)
[01:37] <farous> amias: :)
[01:37] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: well, i wanted _no_ additional options, but i have found a solution :) do you think that this is worth a bug report?
[01:37] <amias> farous, and dodgy hard disks
[01:37] <farous> lol
[01:37] <dt-oz-gc> probably.
[01:37] <rapha> s-toned: which tho? Actually I have a BlackBerry so I don't want a PDA at all. Just a stand-alone nav system which you can put in the car.
[01:37] <farous> kristian: you can open the file with an editor and check. do not use sudo
[01:38] <andi5> cydrive: maybe install build-essentials
[01:38] <amias> right well i'm off , thanks all , have fun
[01:38] <kristian> furous, okai :) i always forget the code thing... :S
[01:38] <dt-oz-gc> It might not be a bug... i do not understand grub well enough either. grub2 is coming. i will revisit when its out.
[01:38] <SirKillalot> hello, how can I make my gnome-terminal get transparent when I start it using Xgl?
[01:38] <farous> kristian: or you can in a terminal cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep Drive
[01:38] <cydrive> farous i tried what you said and got this E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:38] <cydrive> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? i mean i have root im the admin of the system
[01:39] <gnomefreak> cydrive: use sudo?
[01:39] <farous> cydrive: tried what. and you need sudo
[01:39] <andi5> dt-oz-gc: yes, i have installed it once, and as i did not see a grub binary i felt quiet uncomfortable :)
[01:39] <J-_> superkaramba is running on gnome, hopefully it's alright to run on it
[01:39] <cydrive> ok let me try
[01:39] <kristian> farous, i make a bin file a post it here soon..
[01:39] <farous> cydrive: you mean opening synaptic
[01:39] <gnomefreak> dt-oz-gc: grub2 is in dapper repos
[01:39] <McScruff> Is it possible to use the text based installer on the livecd?
[01:39] <farous> kristian: no posting here use the pastebin
[01:39] <aLPHa_LeaK> !paste
[01:39] <kristian> farous, yes ofc
[01:39] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:40] <snoops> you can only have one update going at once cydrive.. such as synaptic, or update manager, etc
[01:40] <thoreauputic> McScruff: no, it's only the graphical installer
[01:40] <patrick_king> !mp3
[01:40] <Laney> np: R.E.M. - Losing My Religion
[01:40] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
. Yes. but i am too chicken to try it. Dont have time to wreck a machine these days.
[01:40] <thoreauputic> McScruff: the "alternate" Cd has the text installer
[01:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:40] <kristian> farous, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16539
[01:40] <cydrive> snoops okay
[01:40] <kwjp> I looked in /etc/X11 and there are no backup files there, just the xorg.conf itself.. any other suggestions?
[01:41] <dt-oz-gc> c.u. later.
[01:41] <McScruff> thoreauputic, crap, i want to install nubuntu ( a security distro based on dapper livecd) but i dont want to use the gui installer because it will overwrite my mbr
[01:41] <thoreauputic> McScruff: yes, that seems like a bug to me
[01:41] <farous> kristian: you have it loaded
[01:41] <thoreauputic> McScruff: you don't have an "alternate" CD?
[01:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic: isnt nubuntu still a 3rd party version?
[01:42] <andi5> thoreauputic: can you give me a good reason why there is no text installer on the default cd? after install repeatedly crashing for me (did not tell me that grub does not like /boot on xfs), i wished to have a text one
[01:42] <McScruff> thoreauputic, not on nubuntu as its a livecd :)
[01:42] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: I assume so, yes
[01:42] <kristian> farous, okai, then... what do i search for in synaptic? :)
[01:42] <farous> kristian: did you backup your xorg.conf file according to the howto you used
[01:42] <snoops> make a backup of your mbr with dd /dev/yourhdd /home/blah.img bs=512 count=1 McScruff.. bs=512 takes the partition table and grub installer part.. if you just want the grub installer part use bs=446
[01:42] <kristian> i have never been into that file today :P
[01:42] <Ng> andi5: because the regular install CD is also a live CD that doesn't use the same installer. There is an alternate install CD available for download that uses the old text mode installer
[01:42] <farous> kristian: i do not know the how to you used but basically i recommend installing the one in the repos
[01:42] <thoreauputic> andi5: short answer: no Long answer, Colin Watson says therea re technical problems with doing it
[01:43] <farous> kristian: there are some tweaks that need to be made. and i can not just figure how good the howto wa
[01:43] <andi5> ok, thanks (did not expect tech problems)
[01:43] <farous> s
[01:43] <McScruff> snoops, is it possible to re-install grub from inside ubuntu thats already installed?
[01:43] <snoops> yep McScruff
[01:44] <McScruff> i'll just overwrite it with this install then, boot into my ubuntu then re-install it
[01:44] <snoops> you can boot from the live cd, chroot into the system, run the grub installer on the hdd of your choosing
[01:44] <farous> kristian: did the howto end up with you making a .deb files that you installed later
[01:44] <kristian> no
[01:44] <kristian> don't think so...
[01:44] <snoops> then edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst (well you might not need to edit it, but you can from there)
[01:44] <andi5> oh, good question: what binary recognizes installed os'es? i installed windows after ubuntu and edited menu.lst by hand, but is there a way to find it automagically?
[01:44] <farous> search in synaptic for fglrx packages that are installed
[01:44] <diop> hahaha
[01:44] <andi5> sorry, i did not mean that my question was a good question ;-)
[01:44] <diop> yesssssss
[01:44] <diop> my wifi works
[01:44] <diop> loll
[01:45] <andi5> diop: mine too... .congrats :D
[01:45] <kristian> forus, i found some packages
[01:45] <farous> kristian: are they installed
[01:45] <kristian> yes
[01:45] <aLPHa_LeaK> can you just delete outdated init-images and use update-grub?
[01:45] <kristian> i searched only for isntalled pacakges
[01:45] <kristian> packages..
[01:45] <diop> andi5 i ve made about one month
[01:45] <diop> and finally
[01:45] <farous> kristian: ok let me try a shortcut first
[01:46] <kristian> those marked green, are installed? right?
[01:46] <kristian> yes :)
[01:46] <Ng> aLPHa_LeaK: you probably want to remove the packages that own the old images, then grub will be updated for you
[01:46] <farous> yes give me a min first
[01:46] <aLPHa_LeaK> ah.
[01:46] <kristian> yes..
[01:46] <andi5> diop: it was really easy here.... i just inserted the interfaces lines of my previous breezy~>dapper system, this time without any hassle to edit pre.up's and alike :)
[01:47] <farous> kristian: first of those packages is there a fglrx-control one installed
[01:47] <kristian> yes
[01:47] <farous> good in a terminal type fglrxinfo
[01:48] <kristian> done
[01:48] <thoreauputic> To me, the major prblem with the live/graphical installer is that it is the Cd supplied by "shipit" - and many of the people who most need shipiy are not in a position to download the alternate CD
[01:48] <Bassetts> is it possible to be able to move windows along the taskbar, like you can move tabs around in firefox?
[01:48] <farous> did it say ati or mesa
[01:48] <kristian> mesa
[01:48] <farous> ok in a terminal type sudo depmod -aq
[01:49] <andi5> Bassetts: if it was, i would _love_ to know how :)
[01:49] <kristian> dibe
[01:49] <kristian> done, nothing happend
[01:49] <farous> kristian: you have the fglrx-kernel package installed right
[01:49] <Bassetts> andi5: me too :) imho its the most needed feature
[01:49] <andi5> Bassetts: let me see whether there is some bug or rfe in gnome-panel
[01:50] <kristian> no?
[01:50] <kristian> i can't find it
[01:50] <farous> there is no fglrx-kernel package installed
[01:50] <ufk> what mirror can i use instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com, i can't connect to it
[01:50] <kristian> nope
[01:50] <Schalken> is an ext3 partition classified as absolutely unresizable?
[01:50] <farous> kristian: can you paste on the pastebin the output of this command
[01:51] <farous> sudo aptitude search fglrx
[01:51] <kristian> what should i pastebin?
[01:51] <farous> the output of , sudo aptitude search fglrx
[01:52] <kristian> not installed packages?
[01:52] <andi5> Bassetts: maybe http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37787
[01:52] <farous> kristian: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude search fglrx
[01:52] <Bassetts> andi5: i shall look
[01:52] <cyberix> Dapper seems to have some big problems with playing media-files. Are these known problems?
[01:53] <cyberix> I never experienced such problems with Breezy
[01:53] <farous> cyberix: it is because of copy right laws
[01:53] <farous> !restrictedformats > cyberix
[01:53] <kristian> farous, search in installed packages or not installed?
[01:54] <andi5> farous: ubotu supports redirection?
[01:54] <kwjp> does anyone know where xorg.conf would be backed up to? I looked in /etc/X11 and it's not there
[01:54] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:54] <cyberix> farous: Not only them.
[01:54] <farous> kristian: ah you have to close synaptic before you execute this command
[01:54] <cyberix> farous: Rhythmbox crashes all the time.
[01:54] <Bassetts> andi5: i dont think that is it
[01:54] <farous> andi5: seems the new one do
[01:55] <kristian> farous, installed or not installed packages? i have to choose
[01:55] <Bassetts> andi5: i am on about the window list
[01:55] <andi5> Bassetts: why not?
[01:55] <farous> kristian: you run this in a command line it will show you installed and uninstalled packages
[01:55] <Bassetts> that bug is for the task list not window list
[01:55] <farous> kristian: command line == gnome-terminal or konsole
[01:56] <andi5> Bassetts: but what is a task list if not the window list?
[01:56] <Bassetts> top right?? near the clock
[01:56] <Bassetts> thats what i thought the task list was
[01:56] <kristian> yes, but i can choose if i want to search in installed packages or not installed packages?
[01:57] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: that's the "notification area"
[01:57] <aftertaf> anyone good with mplex problems (dvd authoring) ?
[01:57] <farous> kristian: ok lets see both
[01:57] <Bassetts> ok =S
[01:57] <Bassetts> naming is confusing lol
[01:57] <thoreauputic> Bassetts: yes :)
[01:57] <andi5> Bassetts: near the clock? but you do not mean the appointsments from evolution, shown in the clock applet itself, right?
[01:57] <kristian> okai, i do it twice then
[01:57] <kwjp> where can I get help with my xorg.conf file?
[01:58] <yallaman> is there any good 3d modern combat flight sim..good on linux..or at last nice to use under cedega/wine?
[01:58] <Bassetts> andi5: that just confuses me as i do not use evolution
[01:58] <Bassetts> heh
[01:58] <kristian> farous, oki
[01:58] <kristian> i choosed installed pack
[01:58] <kristian> s
[01:58] <farous> kwjp: you are in the right room would be easier if you start stating the prob
[01:58] <kristian> and then?
[01:58] <andi5> Bassetts: the point is: there is a difference in gnome-panel and gnome-applets, so if it is filed again gnome-panel, then .... where is there another list? :-D
[01:59] <Bassetts> =O well confused lol
[01:59] <andi5> s/e in g/s between g/;s/again/against/ ;-(
[01:59] <menisk> Is there a program that can read a dv stream through usb 2.0 or Firewire?
[01:59] <farous> kristian: am sure we are not talking about the same thing. are you looking at the gui synaptic or a terminal?
[01:59] <kristian> terminal
[02:00] <farous> kristian: do not know how you can choose installed or uninstalled did you open the gui front end for aptitude
[02:00] <kwjp> sorry, the problem is that I tried to update my nvidia drivers and it changed my xorg.conf file and now x won't start
[02:00] <kristian> some DOS thing.. :P
[02:00] <kwjp> it said it made a backup, but I don't know where it put it
[02:00] <farous> kwjp: /etc/X11/
[02:00] <kwjp> no, I didn't see it there
[02:01] <kristian> let's restart :P
[02:01] <kwjp> just the regular one
[02:01] <troughton> hello ppl
[02:01] <kristian> in terminal i write sudo apititude
[02:01] <kristian> aptitude
[02:01] <farous> kristian: in a termina type " sudo aptitude search fglrx "
[02:01] <farous> withouth the " "
[02:02] <menisk> Is there a program that can read the dv stream from my camcorder through usb or firewire
[02:02] <farous> kwjp: check where you ran the installation file. aslo try locate xorg.conf
[02:02] <farous> you may need wild cards
[02:02] <kristian> okai, my mistake... and so?
[02:03] <farous> paste on the pastebin the result kristian
[02:03] <HackerGates> ciao a tutti
[02:03] <matze> good morning
[02:03] <kristian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16541
[02:04] <kristian> there u go
[02:04] <troughton> can anyone tell me why my dvd burner is wont play movies or mount on k9 coppy ??
[02:04] <kwjp> thank you, I found the backup with "locate xorg.conf" it was in /var/backups/xorg/
[02:04] <uwe> hello, i know the question is a primitive one, but i really have no clue why this happens, ive installed Ununtu dapper amd64 on a xeon machine with a 2.4 Ghz processor , scsi RAID and 2 GB ram ... the system is very slow ... it boots very slowly, grub is slow, and even executing the commands takes too much time ! i suspect its an i/o issue on the HD ... any ideas?
[02:04] <farous> kristian: for sure you missed one part of the howto
[02:04] <farous> kwjp: :) great
[02:05] <tijn> hi all
[02:05] <farous> kristian: ok better to install from the repos then
[02:05] <farous> kristian: open synaptic again
[02:05] <kristian> yes
[02:05] <troughton> is a 2.4 a 64 bit processer uwe ??
[02:05] <farous> kristian: this way it will be updated automtaically for you
[02:05] <matze> intel xeon is 64bits
[02:06] <farous> kristian: ok uninstall the fglrx packages then reinstall them again
[02:06] <farous> kristian: do not worry of the error messages you will get
[02:06] <uwe> sry, a 3.20
[02:06] <kristian> uninstall all of them? all the packages?
[02:06] <uwe> Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.20GHz
[02:06] <farous> they are only two right
[02:06] <imc_> Morning ndiswrapper help: I download the source and unzip and following instructions do 'make' and get Command not found.
[02:06] <imc_> Help?
[02:06] <kristian> here is 5..
[02:06] <kristian> installed
[02:06] <farous> kristian: two with fglrx in them
[02:06] <matze> uwe, do you have the problems with other OSes too?
[02:07] <kristian> yes, two
[02:07] <kwjp> I got that error message before, use synaptic to search for "make"
[02:07] <kristian> mark for reinstallation?
[02:07] <uwe> well, matze , i had a suse on it before and it was ok
[02:07] <farous> kristian: wait let me check again
[02:07] <imc_> Can anyone help with ndiswrapper?
[02:07] <kwjp> imc_, try using synaptic to search for "make"
[02:07] <farous> kristian: aptitude say you only have two installed how come you say you have 5 ?
[02:08] <imc_> You;re kidding right?
[02:08] <farous> imc_: install build-essential package
[02:08] <burepe1> I am following the ktorrent site's explanation on how to compile ktorrent and I am getting errors on the "make" command. It says "make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop." What should I do?
[02:08] <kristian> i serach for fglrx in synaptic
[02:08] <uwe> matze, the raid configureation changed, and i very much suspect that it could be it. but how can i make sure
[02:08] <matze> hmm... what architecture was suse? x86_64 or i386?
[02:08] <kwjp> no, I had that problem before and it worked for me
[02:08] <uwe> 64
[02:08] <imc_> Why on earth would that not be installed by default! Oh well, thanks kwjp, installing now
[02:08] <farous> kristian: the one in green are installed all others are not
[02:08] <uwe> AFAIK, it broke ... :)
[02:09] <farous> imc_: you need build-essentail package for not all users are programmers
[02:09] <kristian> i remove all with fglrx in the name okai?
[02:09] <farous> imc_: you will need gcc and other tools too
[02:09] <farous> kristian: ok
[02:09] <tanlaan> hey all
[02:09] <kristian> mark for reinstallation?
[02:09] <kristian> or remove?
[02:09] <matze> I guess it's any problem with dapper, but this can have many reasons imho
[02:09] <troughton> can anyone tell me how to get my dvd working and playing movies ??
[02:10] <farous> remove and then install
[02:10] <thoreauputic> !dvd
[02:10] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:10] <farous> kristian: complete remove
[02:10] <kristian> okai
[02:10] <imc_> SO I've got ndiswrapper made, but I'm getting error 2 /bin/sh ar: command not found when running make
[02:10] <tanlaan> im was trying to configure a MOO program...and got an error
[02:10] <kristian> the control panel and somehting else then
[02:10] <troughton> have been though that ubotu and have libdvdcss installed still dose not work
[02:10] <uwe> matze, i didnt understad that, do you think its a dapper issue or a non-dapper issue ?
[02:10] <imc_> Why was this so much easier under Hoary and Breezy?
[02:10] <kristian> not panel, just control
[02:11] <kristian> apply?
[02:11] <farous> yah
[02:11] <matze> i think its a dapper issue
[02:11] <imc_> Can anyone point me to a good how to for ndiswraper under Dapper? I've been frustrated as hell this morning
[02:11] <matze> another question, uwe: are you running from live-cd or did you install dapper?
[02:11] <thoreauputic> !wifi
[02:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:11] <imc_> Thanks
[02:12] <uwe> matze, :) installed :)
[02:12] <matze> when running from live-cd it was very, very slow on my box
[02:12] <matze> ah k
[02:12] <kristian> farous, then?
[02:12] <farous> kristian: install them again this time they will install from repos
[02:12] <farous> kristian: make sure you have the repos enabled
[02:13] <kwjp> hm, this would be much easier if I ran my livecd... how do I boot into it, I tried to earlier, but it ignored the cd, I have bios to boot from cd first
[02:13] <Sgeo> "Totem could not play 'fd://0'."
[02:13] <kristian> i just right click on them and click install  or?
[02:13] <Sgeo> Using totem-gstreamer
[02:13] <uwe> is there a way to test the I/O speed
[02:13] <farous> kristian: exactly
[02:13] <matze> but I dont know what the reason could be, im not a tech or something, im just using gnu/linux
[02:14] <uwe> yes, same here matze .. thank you :)
[02:14] <_Rappy_> I can't seem to find the equalient of this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade to upgrade from Breezy to Dapper. Not released yet or what?
[02:14] <BrianHH> Hi, everyone.  Is anyone here familiar with using Captive to read + write NTFS drives?  When I try to ls my NTFS partition, it gives me a "connection refused" error.
[02:14] <KenSentMe> !tell _Rappy_ about upgrade
[02:15] <neutrinomass> uwe: sudo hdparm -t /dev/hda
[02:15] <_Rappy_> tnx :)
[02:15] <matze> no problem. tried to reinstall?
[02:15] <kristian> ok, now they are installed
[02:15] <rapha> !tell rapha about upgrade
[02:15] <kwjp> how do I make my computer boot to cd? I start it up and it skips the cd and just loads my installed ubuntu
[02:15] <rapha> kwjp: does it tell about any keys that you can press?
[02:15] <rapha> kwjp: if everything goes too fast, try pressing the Pause key
[02:15] <burepe1> kwjp; you gotta go in to the BIOs and change the boot order
[02:16] <farous> kristian: close synaptic and type this command, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[02:16] <troughton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions brianHH
[02:16] <kwjp> the boot order has cd go first
[02:16] <kwjp> but it skips it
[02:16] <BrianHH> Thanks, troughton .  I'll check it out. :)
[02:16] <uwe> thanks neutrinomass
[02:16] <imc_> None of the how-tos in the wifi refers to ndiswrapper on a x386; the instructions for ndiswrapper on an AMD are WRONG in that they ask me to unar the latest ndiswrapper file and cd into the debian directory, which doesn't exist. Any help please?
[02:16] <kristian> the newest version is already installed
[02:16] <burepe1> kwjp: when the comp starts there should be a screen with options, what are they?
[02:16] <farous> kwjp: are you sure the bootsec on the disc is not damaged
[02:17] <farous> kristian: great
[02:17] <kwjp> it's the cd I used to install it with
[02:17] <thoreauputic> kwjp: either 1) Not a bootable CD or 2) BIOS problem
[02:17] <kristian> okai :)
[02:17] <farous> kristian: now fglrxinfo
[02:17] <Sgeo> Maybe disabling hd in the boot order (*winces hoping he isn't saying something wrong*)
[02:17] <tanlaan> i tried compiling a MOO program, and i got an error that i didnt have an ANSI-C Compiler
[02:17] <tanlaan> does anyone know where i might be able to get that
[02:17] <kristian> mesa shit still tere
[02:17] <kristian> there
[02:17] <neutrinomass> tanlaan: You need to install build-essential .
[02:17] <Sukre^n_Pudre> why if i do * adduser myuser video * it says thad user is already present ? O_o
[02:18] <Sukre^n_Pudre> group on video device are root - root
[02:18] <farous> kristian: try a reboot. what is your card
[02:18] <tanlaan> thx neitrinomass ill try that
[02:18] <uwe> 10 MB in  4.01 seconds =   2.49 MB/sec ! i suppose thats VERY slow ... no ?
[02:18] <kristian> farous, 9800 Pro, ati
[02:18] <kristian> radeon
[02:18] <kristian> rebot now, see ya
[02:18] <farous> ok
[02:18] <thoreauputic> uwe: *very* slow
[02:18] <neutrinomass> tanlaan: Although make sure you check the repositories before compiling anything - ok ? :)
[02:18] <uwe> hmmm
[02:18] <zerboxx> Hello everyone. I'm having an odd program. Out of nowhere my HDD has become read-only...
[02:19] <tanlaan> lol ok
[02:19] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: It drops you to a console when booting ?
[02:19] <matze> uwe did you install chipset drivers?
[02:19] <funky> hi
[02:19] <Sgeo> Hi funk
[02:19] <BrianHH> troughton:  I'm assuming from the info on that page that Captive won't work to write to NTFS.  Is that correct?
[02:19] <zerboxx> neotard: yes, and the last thing I did was try to setup vgetty, so I was trying to undo some things, but I can't
[02:19] <funky> any repository where amarok 1.4 its on it?
[02:19] <Sgeo> *funky
[02:19] <funky> hi Sgeo
[02:20] <troughton> it tells you how to make it read wright also
[02:20] <Sgeo> When I boot up, EVMS takes a long time
[02:20] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Try fscking the drive....
[02:20] <fluxy> Hello. Is there a way to stop ubuntu from doing disk/filesystem checks at the start? It takes way too much time doing so, and it's annoying. Thanks
[02:20] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: can you walk me through that please?
[02:20] <Sgeo> Also, sometimes, unless I start the kernel with ide=nodma, bootup freezes
[02:20] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: It has happened to me a couple of times. fsck would scan the drive but refuse to fix it automatically.
[02:20] <kristian> now
[02:20] <kristian> check again?
[02:20] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: I'll try to but not sure :)
[02:20] <Sgeo> After I use ide=nodma, next bootups work better
[02:20] <Sgeo> Even without ide=nodma
[02:20] <farous> kristian: hopefully
[02:21] <kristian> nope
[02:21] <kristian> the same shit
[02:21] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: heh ok let me take some looks myself
[02:21] <Sgeo> With ide=nodma, EVMS takes an _extremely_ long time
[02:21] <kristian> mesa
[02:21] <farous> kristian: post your xorg.conf file
[02:21] <kristian> whaeeee!!!:P
[02:21] <Sgeo> Without it, it just takes a long time
[02:21] <kristian> enter d code :P
[02:21] <kristian> the
[02:21] <Sgeo> Any help?
[02:21] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: well it's started...
[02:21] <funky> I got it
[02:21] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: try "fsck -a /dev/hda1", replacing /dev/hda1 with your partition ...
[02:21] <funky> if anyone else its interested deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[02:22] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: I did "sudo fsck"
[02:22] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: And ?
[02:22] <farous> kristian: it is located at /etc/X11/ the file name is xorg.conf
[02:22] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: it now says "Deleted inode 163848 has zero dtime. Fix (Y)?"
[02:22] <kristian> yes, thx
[02:23] <fluxy> Is there a way to stop ubuntu from doing disk/filesystem checks at the start? It takes way too much time doing so, and it's annoying. Thanks
[02:23] <gore_> how do I change my boot splash screen?
[02:23] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Well, I'm not quite sure. I usually run fsck with the -a option (to fix everything automatically)
[02:23] <kristian> sudo /etc/x11/xorg.conf ?
[02:23] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: know if I can just...stop this fsck?
[02:24] <farous> kristian: gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:24] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: The fsck man page says to use -a with caution, but frankly, I have no idea why one would not want to fix it
[02:24] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Not sure, but probably yes. let me check the man apge ...
[02:24] <farous> then copy and paste to the pastebin
[02:24] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: :P ok, I assume I can just say yes to everything, no?
[02:24] <luk156> i' ve install compiz but when i play a video the it plays with lower number of frame rate
[02:24] <kristian> it's blank
[02:24] <farous> kristian: one question why did you wan the prop drivers
[02:24] <fijam> hello. I have a question. What excacly happens during 'preparing restricted drivers'?
[02:24] <kristian> prop?
[02:24] <tijn> does anyone know a good opensource solution to M$ terminal services?
[02:24] <farous> kristian: fglrx
[02:24] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: That's what I would do (which is not neccessarily correct advice)
[02:25] <farous> kristian: and it can not be blank :)
[02:25] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: well if you're going down, I'll go down with you!
[02:25] <kwjp> I think I've fixed it.. I had to use grub to boot into recovery mode so I could alter the conf file. Thank you everyone for your help!
[02:25] <BrianHH> If I mount my NTFS drive with umask=000 (to make it read/write, from what I can tell from the page troughton pointed me to), will Bad Things happen?
[02:25] <farous> kristian: check for spelling mistakes
[02:25] <kristian> i can't find fglrx
[02:25] <kristian> what's wrong today?:P
[02:25] <farous> kristian: take a time out
[02:25] <pvd> Got to love google
[02:25] <farous> kristian: we can cont tomorrow
[02:26] <kristian> what?
[02:26] <kristian> u leaving?
[02:26] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Keep in mind that this could be a sign that your hard disk is failing, so once your system boots up correctly make backups of everything ...
[02:26] <geekoe> hi, i'm missing /lib/iptables/libip6t_REJECT.so in the iptables package...
[02:26] <farous> you need ot take some time to rest too
[02:26] <kristian> not at all ;P
[02:26] <farous> ok
[02:26] <kristian> hehe
[02:26] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: ....oh no, it IS my backup drive!
[02:26] <farous> so gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:27] <kristian> it's blank
[02:27] <kristian> :P
[02:27] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: lol. Well FWIW, I got one of those right before my drive failed :-/
[02:27] <farous> kristian: it can not be for you will not be loged into the system in gui env if it was
[02:27] <farous> kristian: cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <kristian> forget sudo maybe..?
[02:28] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: alright well when this started happening I was in the process of a huge backup, so I'll just keep things on my main drive now :/
[02:28] <farous> kristian: and take care of the capital and small letter linux is case senstive
[02:28] <cydrive> ok im can someone pleas help me im trying to compileNdisWrapper but i dont understand the command line im supposed to use im at the very initial part of the compile part
[02:28] <BrianHH> Can anyone help me out getting my NTFS drive to be read/write?  I think I have the answer here, but I just want to get some advice before I corrupt my partition and hose Windows or something...
[02:29] <kristian> huh...
[02:29] <kristian> ?
[02:29] <tanlaan> does anyone know of a better place than pastebin.com?
[02:29] <Pecisk> hi guys, any good console which supports Unicode under Ubuntu/Debian?
[02:29] <tanlaan> because its being extremely slow for me
[02:29] <tripppy> nothing better
[02:29] <hunla> Hi, im trying to set up my webcam but it cant be found on /dev/video0. What shall i do?
[02:29] <Pecisk> console/console editor/s
[02:29] <Pecisk> hunla: what webcam?
[02:29] <Pecisk> hunla: model, provider
[02:29] <hunla> Pecisk: Bus 001 Device 009: ID 046d:08f0 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Messenger
[02:30] <cydrive> ok im can someone pleas help me im trying to compile NdisWrapper but i dont understand the command line im supposed to use im at the very initial part of the compile part
[02:30] <tripppy> whats a good network traffic limiter?
[02:30] <hwilde> cydrive, why are you trying to compile
[02:30] <Pecisk> hunla: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=111225
[02:30] <hunla> thanks Pecisk
[02:30] <farous> cydrive: why do you need to compile the packge is already in the repositories
[02:31] <Pecisk> hunla: and next time while asking and waiting for answer here, just google for it, just in case :))
[02:31] <kristian> cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf, dosent work
[02:31] <cydrive> NdisWrapper  the install directions are here http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[02:31] <Pecisk> hunla: google can find lot of things <g>
[02:31] <cydrive> im at the compile part
[02:31] <farous> kristian: cd /etc/X11/
[02:31] <hwilde> kristian, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is a file not a directory so you cant cd
[02:31] <geekoe> is the /lib/iptables/ip6t_REJECT.so missing for security reasons? or has it just bee forgotten...
[02:31] <farous> kristian: you can not cd to a file
[02:31] <hwilde> cydrive, use this webpage from the wiki:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:31] <mikearthur> cydrive: why are you trying to compile?
[02:32] <farous> kristian: got to go now good luck am sure others can help here
[02:32] <hunla> Pecisk: damn, i must compile my kernel :(
[02:32] <tanlaan> had a problem while using "make" have the entire process from compilation at http://pastebin.ca/71981
[02:32] <kristian> well, i don't think so, u are the best ;)
[02:32] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: on the good side, I wanted to buy a new HDD for my main computer, so now I will and I'll put the old as my backup XD
[02:32] <Pecisk> hunla: wait a sec
[02:32] <Pecisk> hunla: possibly there are already modules
[02:32] <tanlaan> any help would be awesome
[02:32] <uwe> well, matze_at_lunch , thoreauputic, neutrinomass , for some reason its the RAID config ... it was RAID 5 , i tried RAID 0 and its very fast now
[02:33] <SVisor> Is FreeNode still owned?
[02:33] <hwilde> tanlaan, you don't have "yacc" installed.
[02:33] <hunla> hmm
[02:33] <uwe> strange ...
[02:33] <tanlaan> ok ill go install that :D
[02:33] <hwilde> tanlaan, see lines 143, 144, make: yacc: Command not found
[02:34] <tanlaan> yea i see that
[02:34] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: It's sad how often HDDs die nowadays :(
[02:34] <neutrinomass> uwe: Glad you figured it out :)
[02:34] <hwilde> neutrinomass, zerboxx, SeaGate is the world's leading harddrive manufacturer.
[02:35] <BCK14> hwilde: doesnt mean there the best, i mean microsoft are the worlds operating system leaders
[02:36] <Answer> BCK14, Seagates are the best harddrives
[02:36] <BCK14> id say western digital are quite good
[02:36] <tanlaan> i cant find yacc in synaptic
[02:36] <BCK14> Answer: personal opinion :)
[02:36] <Juhaz> there's no such thing as "best" in hard drives, or anything for that matter.
[02:36] <hunla> Pecisk: :/
[02:36] <tanlaan> i found cl-yacc
[02:36] <BCK14> Juhaz: totally agree
[02:36] <tanlaan> and a few others that are kinda like that
[02:37] <neutrinomass> hwilde: (just mentioning it, this is not the place to discuss it) I got an 160GB Seagate drive that failed 3 months after purchase. It's circumstancial evidence, agreed, but I'm no longer that fond of Seagate.
[02:37] <SVisor> Juhaz: But there are some should avoid (like IBM DeathStar a few years back).
[02:37] <zerboxx> Juhaz: true, though seagate has many pluses, especially for laptops: largest size (160Gig), coolest (in comparison to same sizes), power consumption, etc
[02:37] <Answer> tanlaan, how about  http://www.grendelproject.nl/dyacclex/
[02:38] <Juhaz> SVisor, yes, but just a brand doesn't help with that, it's useless overgeneralization - ibm had good drives too, and seagate has had bad drives as well
[02:38] <Raito> How do you download (and/or setup) ALSA and OSS sound drivers?
[02:38] <Answer> ibm sux, seagate rules.
[02:39] <xst> After upgrading to dapper my firefox has begun freeze quite often. I think it might have something to do with flash usage cause e.g. youtube.com freezes very often, while non-flash sites have less potential to freeze. Has anyone experienced the same increase in freezes? And how do I fix it?
[02:39] <SVisor> Juhaz: Before the DeathStar serie I bought and recommended IBM. Nowadays I say Seagate.
[02:39] <Pecisk> hunla: as far as I have searched, there are Ubuntu package for driver sources, which you propably should use, for compatiblity with kernel. Although I can't find already compiled kernel, sorry :( Maybe try your luck at Ubuntu Forums
[02:39] <hunla> thankys anyway.
[02:40] <hunla> bye
[02:40] <Juhaz> IBM doesn't even make hard drives any more, but I haven't had any negative experiences with hitachi, who bought their HD unit
[02:41] <pvd> Anyone ever tried the hdparm -u 1 option?
[02:42] <bcroq> hi all
[02:42] <xice> guys: whats the nvidia equalavent of "256MB ATI Mobility Radeon X1400" i only speak NViDIA
[02:42] <bcroq> do you know how to tell the live CD the X resolution you want to use?
[02:42] <Juhaz> SVisor, you'll run out of manufacturers to recommend, eventually, if you switch every time one happens to break :)
[02:43] <Raito> How do you download other sound drivers? I think that is my problem. I need ALSA and OSS. (I got libsdl1.2debian-all) But that doesn't seem to work (i had it all along) Do I need to do anything to set it up?
[02:43] <Answer> xice, a 256mb nvidia laptop video card
[02:43] <xice> ;p
[02:43] <xice> not really, i mean like a 7600?
[02:43] <Answer> xice, go look up the pricing on the ati and find a comparable nvidia
[02:44] <Lobster> ahoi
[02:45] <SVisor> Juhaz: Hmm been quite happy with Seagate (HD), LG (CD/DVD), Samsung (Laser printers. Even thou mine is giving up, just 6 months old), Epson (inkjet). In the good old days I said IBM (if SCSI) Seagate else... now its Seagate all the way. So this far Im only dropped IBM (and Hitachi) as HD manufacturer.
[02:46] <`4G|HaZ> wheres the best place on how to use linux from the beginning
[02:46] <Raito> ubuntu documentation (I guess)
[02:47] <SVisor> `4G|HaZ: Just play around and ask when RTFM,man,info and common sense fails.
[02:48] <`4G|HaZ> k then
[02:48] <`4G|HaZ> =] 
[02:48] <s-toned> If anyone has a recommendation for a video card with DVI, very good image quality and xinerama, and working with x.org 7 then I'd be happy to read it.
[02:49] <Chameleon22> i want to use a local imap server as an email backup storage - can anyone suggest pkgs i need for ubuntu server to set it up (to avoid googling like crazzy) plz...
[02:50] <whyami> I am a bit confused about users and groups. Isn't it the case that I as a user can run an application which will then run as perhaps a different user? How is this set up?
[02:50] <NickGarvey> whyami: all users belong to one or more groups
[02:51] <SVisor> Got my ATI9600 working. Not with the open drivers, they locked the computer hard when DRI was invoked. But with the proprietary drivers (not to 100% but near enough).
[02:51] <NickGarvey> whyami: in privileges, the middle 3 set of letters is the permission for the group who owsn the file
[02:51] <NickGarvey> whyami: so you can have it so one person can edit the file, but a group of people can read and execute the file
[02:52] <azertyuuu> hey all, i used to get access to my routersettings, but I can't enter it anymore in Linux. Windows works fine (in Opera as in FF)). Any firewall is disabled. Help !
[02:52] <Answer> Chameleon22, there are many imap servers... courier, cyrus.  there are other utilities that might do what you want, like "imapsync"
[02:53] <whyami> NickGarvey: isn't it the case though that I can run an app as a user but the app itself will run as a different user?
[02:53] <Chameleon22> Answer, which one would you recommend ... most common one
[02:53] <SVisor> whyami: I think you are asking about sticky bits.
[02:53] <SVisor> http://www.zzee.com/solutions/unix-permissions.shtml#setuid
[02:54] <Answer> Chameleon22, I haven't tried either personally, or taken a survey of all the users
[02:54] <Chameleon22> Answer, k
[02:54] <Chameleon22> Answer, thanks any way :)
[02:55] <Answer> Chameleon22, courier is version 3.0.8 and cyrus is 2.1.1.  they are both ubuntu approved
[02:55] <Chameleon22> checking them out now..
[02:56] <Answer> Chameleon22, you might be able to just use the utility "imapsync"
[02:56] <blakkino> azertyuuu, you didn't provide any information in your requewst
[02:56] <blakkino> => no reply
[02:56] <osfameron> where can I get drivers for Panasonic DV camcorder?
[02:56] <osfameron> or alternaitvely do something useful for it without drivers?
[02:56] <Chameleon22> Answer, whats that?
[02:56] <SVisor> ubotu: are you alive
[02:57] <NickGarvey> !help
[02:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:57] <NickGarvey> SVisor: yes it is
[02:57] <Chameleon22> Answer, never mind, checking out now , stupid question lol
[02:58] <Answer> Chameleon22, synaptic will help you out...
[02:58] <SVisor> NickGarvey: I thought it would be smart enough to answer :-)
[02:58] <whyami> SVisor: I'm looking at your link. It might be related to what I am asking. When I type "ps aux" I see a bunch of processes belonging to various users: dhcp, daemon, nobody... how do these get assigned to these groups?
[02:58] <NickGarvey> SVisor: yeah, its strange
[02:58] <NickGarvey> ubotu: help
[02:58] <NickGarvey> SVisor: no idea..
[02:58] <Chameleon22> Answer, dont think it will though. I have bunch of accounts that are pop etc from various servers agregated into one download - so what i want is a way to "drag" it over to a special folder that will act as a mirror so to speak and reside on backup server
[02:59] <tanlaan> does anyone know a very easy/simple way to install yacc?
[03:01] <monkkey> hi guys,, i have installed a new hard drive on my dual boot sys, format with fat 32. windows reads/writes fine, ubuntu will no longer boot, mounting filesys and then waiting for file sys, boots no further
[03:02] <SVisor> whyami: The USER is the user that started the application (root in most cases). Sometimes (some apps) lower their permissions by taking some other identify.
[03:02] <tanlaan> does anyone know a very easy/simple way to install yacc?
[03:03] <monkkey> whats yacc?
[03:03] <MikkelRev> Whats the command to start Internet Explorer? I am trying to run IE through wine. I tried wine /path/explorer.exe, but that was not quite Internet Explorer
[03:03] <kditty> ive done a few attempts of rescuing my old install of ubuntu, and i finally decided to reinstall it from scratch. now when i boot up, grub has 4 versions of linux listed... how could i go about getting rid of that?
[03:03] <tanlaan> idk but its needed for me to install another program
[03:03] <Nemphilis> g
[03:03] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: /WINDOWS/Program Files/Internet Explorer/iexplore.exe
[03:04] <tanlaan> and the last one i tried installing had a huge list of stuff that i had to preinstall for it to work
[03:04] <The_Guardian> I need help finding a repository for Grasshopper.
[03:05] <tanlaan> well since im not getting any response im gonna go to bed
[03:05] <tanlaan> and check back up when i wake up
[03:05] <neosc> hello all. I have 2 had disks and a dvdrom as fllows.. i sata hdd connected to the sata port, dvdrom as master IDE, 2nd ata hard disk as slave IDE. Ubuntu is installed on the sata HDD. It recognises the ntfs partitions on sata and loads them. I have a ufs partition on the ata hdd, what is the mount command to load it?
[03:06] <xice> Digg.com is down !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get Ready for Awesomeness!!!!! V3 out any minute
[03:06] <monomaniacpat> how do you edit keyboard settings in KDE?
[03:06] <monomaniacpat> shorcuts, specifically
[03:06] <Sgeo> xice: That's why digg is u... Oh.
[03:06] <Hobbsee> xice: --> offtopic
[03:08] <The_Guardian> Can someone help me find a good C++ compiler for dapper?
[03:08] <The_Guardian> I'm having no luck finding grasshopper
[03:08] <MikkelRev> NickGarvey: thanks, but it didnt work. It came up with some weird errors, like here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16546
[03:09] <SVisor> Whats wrong with gcc (g++)?
[03:09] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: yeah, didn't work for me either
[03:09] <Hobbsee> The_Guardian: try g++ blah.cpp -o outputfilename
[03:09] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: installed windows XP in vmware and that works fine though
[03:09] <Hobbsee> The_Guardian: also, kate or gedit are quite good
[03:10] <monomaniacpat> !keyboard
[03:10] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[03:10] <jrib> SVisor: what do you mean?
[03:10] <neosc> anybody?
[03:10] <neosc> I have 2 had disks and a dvdrom as fllows.. i sata hdd connected to the sata port, dvdrom as master IDE, 2nd ata hard disk as slave IDE. Ubuntu is installed on the sata HDD. It recognises the ntfs partitions on sata and loads them. I have a ufs partition on the ata hdd, what is the mount command to load it?
[03:10] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: kate can compile C++?
[03:10] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: yeah, i'ts got a terminal window down the bottom, and you use g++.  kdevelop3 is also quite good.
[03:10] <SVisor> jrib: Mean about what?
[03:10] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: thats pretty sweet
[03:10] <NickGarvey> Hobbsee: thank you
[03:10] <Hobbsee> NickGarvey: yep :)
[03:10] <The_Guardian> iI thought gedit was just a text editor?
[03:10] <jrib> SVisor: "what's wrong with gcc (g++)?"
[03:11] <The_Guardian> gcc is what I was using, but I keep getting not found errors for everything
[03:11] <gnomefreak> anjuta too ;)
[03:11] <The_Guardian> and it doesn't make sense since I am pretty sure I have all the libraries installed
[03:11] <SVisor> jrib: Answer to The_Guardian about "good C++ compiler"
[03:11] <jrib> SVisor: oh I see...
[03:11] <MikkelRev> Anyone know how to start Internet Explorer from ubuntu? wine didnt work
[03:11] <gnomefreak> The_Guardian: sudo apt-get install build-essential if you havent already
[03:12] <NickGarvey> neosc: try fdisk -l to see where they all are, and then mount /dev/???? /mntpoint
[03:12] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: are you familiar with vmware?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> MikkelRev: its messy running IE under wine
[03:12] <The_Guardian> thanks gnome running it now :)
[03:12] <gnomefreak> The_Guardian: that should give you everything you need to compile ;)
[03:12] <The_Guardian> it's so nice having a root terminal for ubuntu now
[03:13] <The_Guardian> typing sudo infront of everything was driving me nuts
[03:13] <gnomefreak> The_Guardian: theres always been one in applications>system tools
[03:13] <MikkelRev> NickGarvey: apt-get install vmware: could not find package
[03:13] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: heh, not that easy
[03:13] <The_Guardian> aye I just recently found it gnome :)
[03:13] <ceztko> hi!
[03:13] <muhsin> hi
[03:13] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: let me show you a screen shot of vmware
[03:13] <The_Guardian> and eep! why would you want to use IE? :(
[03:13] <gnomefreak> brb coffee and smoke
[03:14] <The_Guardian> that's as bad as enjoying killing babies (even though they taste like chicken)
[03:14] <MikkelRev> gnomefreak: sad, my mother is dependent on having Internet Explorer, she wont accept gnu until she can use IE
[03:14] <MikkelRev> NickGarvey: I know what it is
[03:14] <The_Guardian> mikkel I would suggest hypnotism
[03:14] <SVisor> MikkelRev: Tell her that Firefox is the _new_ IE!
[03:14] <ceztko>  ALL: what's the correct way of calculating an md5sum hash of multiple files (or of a directory)? I can't use tar.
[03:14] <The_Guardian> actually svisor he can take it one step further
[03:14] <The_Guardian> install IE icons over firefox :P
[03:15] <MikkelRev> SVisor: its about IE-only websites...
[03:15] <NickGarvey> !vmware
[03:15] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[03:15] <jrib> MikkelRev: which version of internet explorer did you try to use under wine?
[03:15] <The_Guardian> !winamp
[03:15] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[03:16] <SVisor> I tried IE6 a long time ago in Wine, and it messed my Windows completely.
[03:16] <NickGarvey> !botsnack
[03:16] <ubotu> Yum!
[03:16] <The_Guardian> lmao
[03:16] <vincenz> Hello
[03:16] <The_Guardian> aloha
[03:16] <vincenz> How do I check which application i using my soundcard?
[03:16] <vincenz> xmms won't play, keeps complainiing
[03:16] <MikkelRev> jrib: not sure as I cant check. Think its v6
[03:17] <ddonky> So how does one reset their nickserv password?
[03:17] <jrib> ddonky: /msg nickserv help set password
[03:17] <Hobbsee> ddonky: /msg nickserv help
[03:17] <The_Guardian> i'm having problems with some games not playing any sound with wine
[03:17] <jrib> vincenz: what output plugin are you using?
[03:17] <The_Guardian> especially shattered galaxy
[03:17] <ddonky> Hobsee - thanks
[03:18] <Pupeno> Any ideas how to turn a color pdf into a grayscale one ?
[03:18] <SVisor> If someone want to pose as me, let em. Ive so booring personality that no one wants to use it.
[03:18] <vincenz> jrib: ALSA
[03:18] <The_Guardian> yay my first program compiled =)
[03:18] <vincenz> jrib: funnily I started GAIM after (for irc) and it made a sound when I got a message
[03:18] <vincenz> so it can access sound
[03:19] <vincenz> jrib: I switched to eSound Output plugin, that seems to work
[03:19] <jrib> vincenz: should work with also too, but as long as you got it to work I guess that's good
[03:19] <vincenz> jrib: thx
[03:20] <vincenz> jrib: any way to type something in commandline to check alsa usage?
[03:20] <vincenz> jrib: usually it works fine
[03:20] <The_Guardian> to make the exe it's just link Hello.CPP Hello.exe right?
[03:20] <jrib> MikkelRev: you could try #winehq, or the wine site for some special instructions you might need for ie6
[03:20] <AJR1> how difficult is it to get windows games to run under ubuntu?
[03:20] <The_Guardian> not very
[03:20] <The_Guardian> just install the latest wine version
[03:20] <SVisor> The_Guardian: g++ hello.cpp -o hello.exe
[03:20] <Hobbsee> The_Guardian: g++ hello.cpp -o hello, yes
[03:20] <The_Guardian> most work pretty well
[03:20] <Hobbsee> SVisor: can you craete .exe files on linux?  nice
[03:20] <vincenz> The_Guardian: a) no, b) ask in #c++, c) if you don't specify the executable name, you should find it in "a.out"
[03:20] <AJR1> The_Guardian : how do i install wine through the sy packet man?
[03:21] <SVisor> Hobbsee: UNIX does not use extensions
[03:21] <Assemblor> hi - I am new to this - am trying to install the drivers for my nvidia card - have followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia but I cannot get it to work - I get an error: "Your X configuration has been altered"....can anyone help me?
[03:21] <Hobbsee> SVisor: i realise that, which is why it's usually created as a .bin file, i was wondering how you got the exe file
[03:21] <jrib> vincenz: there probably is a way, but I don't know it
[03:21] <SVisor> Hobbsee: This would work too: g++ hello.cpp -o hello.myextension
[03:22] <Hobbsee> SVisor: true
[03:22] <jbu> could someone of you compile zope2.9 on dapper? even an apt-get source zope2.9 and debuild -uc -us fails? am i missing something?
[03:22] <BCK14> in gnome is there anyway to specify a path for an application launcher?
[03:22] <jrib> jbu: did you do 'apt-get build-dep zope2.9' ?
[03:22] <BCK14> eg: /home/user  to execute ./run.py
[03:22] <jbu> jrib: yep!
[03:22] <MikkelRev> NickGarvey: "Firstly you need to buy a license to use the VMWARE.."
[03:23] <The_Guardian> AJRI: go to the wine website. It will direct you as to which repository you need to add.
[03:23] <jrib> BCK14: /home/user/run.py
[03:23] <The_Guardian> and give you a step by step on how to do so
[03:23] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: no..
[03:23] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: server is free now
[03:23] <SVisor> BCK14: 'cd /home/user & ./run.py' ... might actually work
[03:23] <The_Guardian> !winamp
[03:23] <jrib> BCK14: you just put the . because . is not in your $PATH
[03:23] <ubotu> winamp is a windows music player. On Ubuntu you can use beep-media-player or xmms as alternative.
[03:23] <AJR1> The_Guardian got a link plz?
[03:23] <The_Guardian> hmm which is better? beep or xmms?
[03:23] <BCK14> ok ty jrib :)
[03:23] <The_Guardian> !wine
[03:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[03:23] <jrib> The_Guardian: beep looks nicer
[03:24] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: you need to do a 30 second survey.. but this is excellent software
[03:24] <The_Guardian> I love the ubuntu bot
[03:24] <The_Guardian> sooo useful
[03:24] <jrib> jbu: I'll try to compile
[03:24] <NickGarvey> MikkelRev: you need to have your windows disk to install windows to vmware also
[03:24] <Kenzu> hey.... where to start if I want to set up LTSP on dapper server?
[03:24] <jbu> jrib: thx a lot
[03:24] <Kenzu> Nothing special on the wiki
[03:25] <jrib> jbu: ha actually no I won't, because I'm on dialup and nit is 7mb sorry :)
[03:25] <AJR1> how do you message the bot in here?
[03:25] <jrib> AJR1: /msg ubotu blah
[03:25] <AJR1> jrib thanks
[03:25] <tijn> [15:25]  <ubotu> I know nothing about blah ;)
[03:25] <NickGarvey> Could someone with an account on the wiki update https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare, you don't need to purchase a licence to use server edition
[03:26] <jrib> jbu: maybe you can pastebin the output you get on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:26] <jbu> jrib: ok.. I'll try it again... but the way is ok... isn't it? or do I have to do something else with ubuntu?
[03:26] <monomaniacpat> !keyboard
[03:26] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[03:26] <jrib> jbu: that should be ok as long as you have 'build-essential'
[03:27] <NATnatic>  hello all... im struggling to get MonoDevelop to work under Ubuntu
[03:27] <NATnatic>  any help would be much appreciated :)
[03:27] <NickGarvey> NATnatic: whats not working?
[03:27] <NATnatic>  i downloaded and ran the mono-1.1.13.8_0-installer.bin and ran it without any problems but  when i try to run MonoDevelop nothing happens
[03:28] <Sgeo> !enigma
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about enigma
[03:28] <jrib> NATnatic: any reason you aren't using the repositories?
[03:28] <systest> Where's the proper place to set a static route on boot? e.g. which config file?
[03:28] <nikusan> NATnatic, you should try installing in like: sudo apt-get install monodevelop
[03:28] <Sgeo> Why did the the Pentagonal Dreams song dissappear?
[03:30] <NATnatic> nikusan: well i tried installing it using Synaptic first but it crashed when i tried to open it... so i unistalled Mono & MonoDevelop and tried using the installer from www.mono-project.com
[03:30] <NATnatic> does Synaptic not just use apt-get gehind the scenes?
[03:30] <The_Guardian> !limewire
[03:30] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:31] <gnubie> how do I turn the srevices raid and pcmcia off?
[03:31] <The_Guardian> !frostwire
[03:31] <ubotu> frostwire is A totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:31] <jbu> jrib: I've just reinstalled g++ and now it's working... thx again
[03:31] <nikusan> NATnatic, try deleting ~/.config/MonoDevelop that fixed mine
[03:32] <The_Guardian> !java
[03:32] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:32] <dngldoof> i'm having problems installing my DVD-RW
[03:33] <NickGarvey> what command would I run to check if my swap is on?
[03:33] <Ng> NickGarvey: free
[03:34] <NATnatic> hey thanks nikusan ill give that a whirl
[03:34] <Ng> NickGarvey: the last line gives details of your swap
[03:34] <systest> NickGarvey: man swapon
[03:34] <systest> e.g. swapon -s
[03:35] <NickGarvey> systest, Ng: thank you
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> Hey All
[03:35] <Mr_GTi> Helloo????
[03:35] <The_Guardian> !limewire
[03:35] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[03:36] <Mr_GTi> Anyone here????
[03:36] <Mr_GTi> I need ubuntu help
[03:36] <SVisor> Mr_GTi: Only us bots here.
[03:36] <SVisor> !ask
[03:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:36] <Mr_GTi> LMAO
[03:36] <BCK14> jrib: how would i run the command as root ?
[03:37] <Mr_GTi> Hey i just recieved the live CD (Version 6.06 LTS 64 bit
[03:37] <NickGarvey> nice
[03:37] <Mr_GTi> and when i try to load the live CD i ghet an Xserve error
[03:37] <jrib> BCK14: you could use gksudo but you would get a password prompt everytime you logged into gnome
[03:37] <Mr_GTi> and it wont load....    :-(
[03:38] <jrib> BCK14: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:38] <NET||abuse> stuipd xgl update,,, damn you...
[03:38] <NET||abuse> todays xgl-server update has nutted up my previously working xgl/compiz setup
[03:38] <SVisor> Mr_GTi: Adn your hardware is?
[03:39] <Mr_GTi> AMD 64 3500+,   Abit RADEON X700pro, ABIT AN8 Motherboard
[03:39] <Mr_GTi> ABIT AN8 SLI*
[03:39] <BCK14> jrib: thats what i did in the end
[03:40] <BCK14> jrib: im running a script to update the database on my mp3 player, which is now working except the terminal closes before i can see the output
[03:40] <BCK14> which is a bit of a pain :(
[03:40] <Mr_GTi> By the way im a NOOBIE to Linux, (ubuntu)
[03:40] <jrib> BCK14: well you can pipe all the output to a file and read it afterwards
[03:41] <BCK14> ah how jrib ?
[03:41] <jrib> erm s/pipe/redirect
[03:41] <BCK14> at the end of the command?
[03:41] <The_Guardian> hmm anyone got limewire working with ubuntu?
[03:41] <BCK14> !frostwire
[03:41] <ubotu> frostwire is A totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:41] <Mr_GTi> SVisor:  AMD 64 3500+,   Abit RADEON X700pro, ABIT AN8 SLI Motherboard
[03:42] <SVisor> Mr_GTi: Sorry to say, there seems to be a lot of grief with X700por cards :-( Example: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31418.html%22***%3C/t-27992.html
[03:42] <jrib> BCK14: not sure if that works by adding it just to the gnome startup entry, but you could try.  You could also either a)figure out how to do it in python (I don't know) or b) write a shell script that calls your python script and sends the output to a file, #!... /home/user/run.py > /home/user/log
[03:43] <BCK14> hmm ok
[03:43] <BCK14> ill prob just put a wait in the python scripts :)
[03:44] <NickGarvey> time.sleep() ;)
[03:44] <yallaman> whats the best bittorrent app for linux?
[03:45] <Mr_GTi> Thanks for your help SVisor
[03:45] <SVisor> Mr_GTi: But not for those rich people who can afford cutting edge hardware ;-)
[03:45] <Minty__> how do you have a program start when ubuntu starts such as networkselector ???
[03:45] <Mr_GTi> LAMO
[03:47] <Mr_GTi> Guess i will have to order Windows vista in the slight hope that it will be an improvment over XP
[03:47] <Mr_GTi> Beta 2
[03:48] <xophEr> yallaman, I like azureus the best, personal preference 
[03:48] <SVisor> Mr_GTi: Cant help you with the live thingy. If you manage to get it installed, you might be able to get it to run Vesa. Or maybe there is proprietary drivers for it.
[03:48] <The_Guardian> !batman
[03:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about batman
[03:48] <The_Guardian> :(
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> Thanks anyway Svisor...
[03:49] <Kibou> Mr_GTi: bug ati about either provide proper drivers or opening up their driver development
[03:49] <The_Guardian> is there a new frostwire out?
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> Yeh
[03:49] <The_Guardian> the directions to install it aren't working
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> lol
[03:49] <Mr_GTi> Ok have a good night yall
[03:50] <SVisor> ATIs proprietray drivers install easily and run well on Ubuntu, so its always an solution.
[03:51] <The_Guardian> !frostwire
[03:51] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[03:52] <ROBOd> hello
[03:52] <ROBOd> i have amd duron
[03:52] <ROBOd> i'd like to install linux kernel 686 or k7.... i'm not sure which?
[03:52] <lotheac> I need to mount/unmount different isos to a specific mountpoint in my home directory with a script (as a regular user). Do I need to make a fstab entry for every iso or is there another way?
[03:53] <Lukkett0> ciao
[03:55] <The_Guardian> this is really odd
[03:55] <SVisor> ROBOd: Does Ubuntu have more than 386 and 64bit altenatives?
[03:55] <The_Guardian> I have java5-jre installed
[03:55] <ROBOd> SVisor: yeah
[03:55] <The_Guardian> but when I go to install frostwire it says it's not installed?
[03:56] <Ng> SVisor: PPC and Sparc are the other official ports
[03:56] <Rondo> When I installed a samba client for ubuntu my whole desktop turned black (my wallpaper dissapeared) and the icons, Chester (computer name), Home, and Run, came up on the deskto. How would I get it back to normal?
[03:56] <Ng> Rondo: k7
[03:56] <Rondo> Ng: what is that?
[03:56] <ROBOd> Ng: thanks :)
[03:56] <Ng> ROBOd: sorry, that was meant for ROBOd ;)
[03:57] <Ng> err, Rondo
[03:57] <meheren> is there a command to erase a cd-rw?
[03:57] <Ng> dammit
[03:57] <ROBOd> lol
[03:57] <Ng> lotheac: I need to remember that this is a poor place to type two characters and hit tab ;)
[03:57] <lotheac> just double check after hitting it :p
[03:57] <yallaman> azureus..just hangs on port test..sigh
[03:58] <The_Guardian> ahh lo Ng didn't get a chance to thank you for the help you provided yesterday :)
[03:58] <meheren> how can I completely erase a cd-rw
[03:58] <The_Guardian> everything is working perfectly now
[03:58] <The_Guardian> except frostwire lol
[03:58] <Ng> The_Guardian: you're welcome :)
[03:58] <Ng> meheren: I think cdrecord can do that
[03:58] <Jack1> Hobbsee i want to burn my /home folder now (thx it finally worked with the swap) and k3b  asks me "follow link now" or add symbolic link to project?
[03:59] <meheren> Ng, thx
[03:59] <Moodles> I'm removing the 13gb drive from this computer, and want to move the current ubuntu install to another drive already in the system. what should I do? I don't want to format the existing drives
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Jack1: go into home folder, and add everything there?
[03:59] <Stardog_> Anyone here know how to install ATI driver on dapper? the method that worked on breezy, doesn't work on dapper..
[04:00] <Rondo> When I installed a samba client for ubuntu my whole desktop turned black (my wallpaper dissapeared) and the icons, Chester (computer name), Home, and Run, came up on the deskto. How would I get it back to normal?
[04:00] <SVisor> !ATI
[04:00] <NickGarvey> Stardog_: easyubuntu?
[04:00] <Ng> !ati > Stardog_
[04:00] <Jack1> yes but when i wanna burn it asks '/home/johannes/.kde/cache-fluffy' is a symbolic link to folder '/var/tmp/kdecache-johannes'.
[04:01] <The_Guardian> does anyone here have frostwire installed?
[04:01] <Stardog_> NickGarvey: tried, but wont show up on gfxlrinfo
[04:01] <Jack1> so i am unsure with the options
[04:01] <green_earz> yallaman: are you behind a firewall ? if so do you have any ports open for the torrent ?
[04:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:01] <yallaman> nope..but behind a router..ports are open tough
[04:02] <ROBOd> thanks guys
[04:02] <ROBOd> gotta go
[04:02] <ROBOd> bye
[04:02] <The_Guardian> !frostwire
[04:02] <meheren> I've downloaded the gentoo livecd installer and am trying to write it to a cd... it fails every single time when it gets to 83% complete? and ideas? (I'm running ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake)
[04:02] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:02] <Stardog_> ubotu: tried that to... but ati spesification wont show up in gfxrlinfo
[04:02] <yallaman> i think the install might be a little broke to....menus and stuff dont work any well
[04:02] <green_earz> yallaman: is the port range some thing like 10000 to 10010  and same again on the torrent client
[04:03] <SeanTater> ubotu tell Stardog_ about bot
[04:03] <green_earz> yallaman: then check out bittornado-gui
[04:04] <yallaman> i guess.. looks lot like bitcomet too..
[04:04] <SeanTater> Stardog_: tired and tried to ge5t fglrx to work but still using mesa?
[04:04] <mp3guy> is there something I can use to host a website from my own pc?
[04:05] <SeanTater> mp3guy: yes, I do
[04:05] <mp3guy> what do you use?
[04:05] <SeanTater> mp3guy: what type of web site do you want to host?
[04:05] <mp3guy> just a small html one, where I can let people download stuff from my pc
[04:05] <SeanTater> mp3guy: hum
[04:05] <C-O-L-T> hello what is the smtp port number of gmail?
[04:06] <SeanTater> mp3guy: is speed a problem?
[04:06] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: 587, iirc
[04:06] <mp3guy> no
[04:06] <SeanTater> mp3guy: install apache2
[04:06] <Hobbsee> C-O-L-T: that really was a question that you should have googled for
[04:06] <SeanTater> mp3guy; what type of internet connection do you have?
[04:06] <mp3guy> Its installed SeanTater
[04:07] <mp3guy> ADSL, 25kb/s upload
[04:07] <SeanTater> mp3guy: good
[04:07] <SeanTater> mp3guy: I;m afraid that may be a bit slow
[04:07] <mp3guy> its ok for me
[04:07] <SAM_theman> hey guys is there a site where i can install the real nvidia driver??
[04:07] <SeanTater> mp3guy: is your computer "behind a router"?
[04:07] <mp3guy> yes
[04:07] <mp3guy> 2
[04:08] <ajayc> how do install grub back from livecd?
[04:08] <SAM_theman> not the one in the apt sources but from nvidia themselves
[04:08] <bam__> Hi
[04:08] <SeanTater> SAM_theman: probably
[04:08] <SeanTater> SAM_theman: I think it and how to install it is in the debian wiki
[04:08] <bam__> Could anyone point towards a channel for support for Linux-Ntfs?
[04:08] <green_earz> yallaman: to check out if your ports setup is ok go to the link > http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl  and http://www.portforward.com/default.htm
[04:08] <mp3guy> SeanTater, we've a wireless router and the ADSL router, will I need to forward ports?
[04:08] <SeanTater> bam__: one that specific will not likiely have many people
[04:09] <SeanTater> mp3guy: yes, do you know how to configure your router?
[04:09] <mp3guy> yup
[04:09] <SeanTater> bam__: try anking here
[04:09] <ajayc> how do install grub back from livecd?
[04:09] <yallaman> its just azurus that dont work..regual bittorrent works
[04:09] <SeanTater> mp3guy: then forward port 80
[04:09] <SeanTater> mp3guy: direct it to the ip of the computer you are using for the server
[04:09] <mp3guy> ok
[04:09] <mp3guy> will I forward it on both routers?
[04:10] <bam__> ok, I have problem with my NTFS usb harddisk. I can only read/write to it as root and not a any other users.
[04:10] <SeanTater> mp3guy: only the one the server is on
[04:10] <mp3guy> from the adsl to wireless then wireless to mine
[04:10] <ajayc> it says cant find block
[04:10] <ajayc> phaeron: u know how to install grub from ubuntu livecd?
[04:10] <ajayc> when i do sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:10] <mp3guy> the adsl goes directly into the wireless one#
[04:10] <ajayc> it says cant find block
[04:10] <SeanTater> bam__: simple, add user to the opeions in fstab concerning that parttition
[04:10] <SAM_theman> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential gcc gcc-3.4 xserver-xorg-dev
[04:10] <SAM_theman> opps
[04:10] <SeanTater> bam__: or disk, in this case
[04:10] <SAM_theman> I meant that for the terminal
[04:10] <mp3guy> tcp or udp SeanTater?
[04:10] <bam__> I mouny by "sudo ntfsmount /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 -o umask=0777,gid=bam,succeed_chmod"
[04:10] <SeanTater> mp3guy: tcp
[04:11] <bam__> shouldnt this be right?
[04:11] <MikkelRev> I have installed vmware on ubuntu. How can I load my existing WinXP installation ? Or do I have to reinstall WinXP on the virtual VM-drive ?
[04:11] <bam__> shouldnt "bam" have access to it?
[04:11] <SeanTater> bam__: have you read the wiki on ntfs?
[04:11] <bhamgray> MikkelRev: Was your existing a VM instance?
[04:11] <bam__> yes, but it meantions nothing about this.
[04:11] <ajayc> please someone help
[04:11] <mp3guy> ok SeanTater, I'll brb, have to reboot router
[04:12] <Moodles> is there a shipit option for Xubuntu, like Kubuntu and Ubuntu do?
[04:12] <SeanTater> bam__: the read around the wiki and forums, I have personally heard this issue at least two dozen times
[04:12] <SeanTater> mp3guy: I doubt that's necessary, actually
[04:12] <bam__> ok,brb
[04:13] <ubuntu_> test
[04:13] <SeanTater> ubotu tell ubuntu_ about ping
[04:13] <conserjeria> hola
[04:13] <SeanTater> ubotu tell conserjeria about es
[04:13] <NET||abuse> how can i roll back the last update to xgl-server
[04:14] <BhamGray> MikkelRev: If your existing XP instance was VM Ware then you can just move it's folder to Ubuntu. If it was just 'plain' XP install, then yes, you'll have to re-install XP
[04:14] <green_earz> ajayc: check http://ithacafreesoftware.org/Members/mitch/notebook/clone_partition/view  the section " Booting the cloned system "  should be of help to you
[04:14] <MikkelRev> BhamGray: my existing WinXP installation was a real installation on hdd that was installed even before ubuntu
[04:14] <SeanTater> NET||abuse: I know it's possible somehow, read the manual on apt
[04:14] <mp3guy> ok, SeanTaterm I'm done
[04:14] <SeanTater> mp3guy: okay
[04:14] <SeanTater> mp3guy: do you want a domain name?
[04:15] <yggdrasil> anything that can convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[04:15] <mp3guy> no, ip will do SeanTater
[04:15] <BhamGray> MikkelRev: Then you'll have to reinstall - but you can back-up lots of stuff (settings, email, etc) so that the new instance isn't so vanilla
[04:15] <SeanTater> mp3guy: then try connecting to your computer through the internet
[04:15] <The_Guardian> odd I have frostwire installed
[04:15] <The_Guardian> but when I click on it nothing opens
[04:15] <NickGarvey> The_Guardian: try running from the command line so you can get error messages
[04:15] <mp3guy> its asking me for a username and password SeanTater
[04:16] <SeanTater> mp3guy: go to /var/www that's where your web pages should be
[04:16] <The_Guardian> bleh damn java error
[04:16] <MikkelRev> BhamGray: ok, thanks for the info. I've been using vmware years ago, and IIRC I could just load my existing windows copies
[04:16] <SeanTater> mp3guy: put something, anything there, just to make sure your server has something to serve
[04:17] <b33r> how to install genius TV tuner on ubuntu?
[04:17] <BhamGray> Anyone on a Dell 600 Laptop had problems with the mouse sensitivity in Ubuntu Dapper?
[04:17] <The_Guardian> hm odd
[04:17] <mp3guy> do I need phpmyadmin SeanTater
[04:17] <The_Guardian> no update-alternatives from sun
[04:17] <BhamGray> MikkelRev: I googled to find a way but couldn't - you might have better luck. But I don't think it's supported.
[04:17] <SeanTater> mp3guy: not unless you have php and need to deal with a database often
[04:18] <Amduscias> Hi all, anyone got some clue about the Nvidia Nforce Binarie Drivers.. i got some hassle here, which i'm unable to solve alone ;)
[04:18] <The_Guardian> !frostwire
[04:18] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:18] <SeanTater> ubotu tell Amduscias about nvidia
[04:18] <bsm> hi, my ubuntu system suddenly exchanged my two sound devices, whereas I disabled on in my bios (is probably a bug). is there a way to change them back?
[04:18] <SeanTater> Amduscias: is ubotu any help?
[04:19] <b33r> how to install Genius TV tuner on ubuntu??
[04:19] <SeanTater> b33r: no idea
[04:19] <SAM_theman> brb
[04:19] <b33r> :<
[04:19] <SeanTater> b33r: google will likely be more help than #ubuntu on that
[04:20] <Amduscias> SeanTater well should he query me something, or how should he be any help, without a response ;)
[04:20] <SeanTater> Amduscias: okay, how about now
[04:20] <SeanTater> !nvidia
[04:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <yggdrasil> anything that can convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[04:21] <The_Guardian> i'm still getting errors when trying to launch frostwire
[04:21] <The_Guardian> it's the java error i'm getting
[04:21] <jrib> The_Guardian: what are they?
[04:21] <Amduscias> thats better, thanks but i got the Graphics Drivers all Working, it'S releated the Sound drivers ;)
[04:21] <jrib> The_Guardian: can you pastebin them?
[04:21] <SeanTater> The_Guardian: got java installed?
[04:21] <bam__> SeanTater: Still cant get this to work.
[04:21] <The_Guardian> yeah I have sun-java5-jre
[04:21] <mp3guy> its still asking for a username and password SeanTater
[04:21] <SeanTater> Amduscias: I've heard a lot about that lately, but I know nothing about it] 
[04:21] <The_Guardian> what do I do to pastebin?
[04:22] <Jack1> for the core duo centrino which kernel do i need? 686?
[04:22] <SeanTater> !pastebin
[04:22] <jrib> The_Guardian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ just visit that site and copy and paste
[04:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:22] <bam__> SeanTater: Still cant get this to work.
[04:22] <SeanTater> Jack1: i686 will probably do well, besides if not, you can go back yo i386
[04:22] <Amduscias> SeanTater well they kompile with an error, and i don'T get anything usefull out of the logfile.. :( damn Nvidia! ;p
[04:22] <Niklas_E> is there someway you can compile the source for the X11 by yourself? perhaps apt-et source xserver-xorg and some other command?
[04:23] <SeanTater> mp3guy: do sudo apache2ctl restart
[04:23] <Jack1> thank you Seantater
[04:23] <SeanTater> Jack1: glad to be helpful
[04:24] <SeanTater> bam__: sorry
[04:24] <SeanTater> Amduscias: a better idea is to do it in the console
[04:24] <The_Guardian> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16551
[04:24] <SeanTater> Amduscias: do you know how?
[04:24] <nickwebcouk> hey folks, is there any way I can edit the SYstem menu for different users.. I dont want my little sisters wrecking things by clicking away..
[04:25] <The_Guardian> for the error i'm getting
[04:25] <ufk> what do i need to add to sources.list for rar/unrar?
[04:25] <jrib> ufk: multiverse
[04:25] <Amduscias> yeah SeanTater i done it in the console mind if i pastebin the logfile? ;)
[04:25] <The_Guardian> nick
[04:25] <wootin> anyone installed ubuntu to a software raid ie /dev/md0
[04:25] <The_Guardian> use a hammer and break their fingers
[04:25] <SeanTater> nickwebcouk:  how about making another user for your sisters, and not giving them permission to use sudo, so thay cannot inflict permanant changes with root?
[04:25] <The_Guardian> then they lack the ability to click!
[04:26] <The_Guardian> well what sean says works too :(
[04:26] <NET||abuse> does anyone use an eidtor that handles ftp directly?
[04:26] <jrib> The_Guardian: frostwire provides a debian/ubuntu deb, use that instead
[04:26] <NET||abuse> i'm looking at kate
[04:26] <NET||abuse> doesn't seem to have support
[04:26] <SeanTater> nickwebcouk: for changing sudo permissions, use /etc/sudoers
[04:26] <SeanTater> The_Guardian: I still think yours is more fool-proof
[04:26] <The_Guardian> lol true
[04:27] <mp3guy> SeanTater, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16552
[04:27] <Moodles> is it possible, to resize an existing EXT3 partitioned drive? it's 250gb and I want to make it smaller to 242gb
[04:27] <NET||abuse> has anyone used jedit?
[04:27] <SeanTater> NET||abuse: what problems are you having, it uses KDE's i/o system, so it should handle it quite well
[04:27] <NET||abuse> i'm on gnome
[04:27] <mp3guy> Moodles, you can resize ext3 non-destructively with gparted
[04:28] <green_earz> nickwebcouk: have a look at icewm for your sister desktop. its very configable
[04:28] <ufk> ok i found there unrar-free, but i can't find rar.
[04:28] <nickwebcouk> SeanTater, yeah, i'v already done that, but I want to remove the temptation for them even more..
[04:28] <SeanTater> mp3guy: sounds good, what's the output of pidof apache2 ; pidofhttpd
[04:28] <NET||abuse> SeanTater, and one thing i've done is using places Connect to server, when yo right click and open file in gedit,, you can't save changes
[04:28] <Aeo> When dual-booting XP and Ubuntu, is it possible to have GRUB automatically load XP without prompting, but go to the boot menu upon a key-press?
[04:29] <Aeo> I don't want my family to have to bother with another screen when starting up, just powering on is difficult enough for them.
[04:29] <Moodles> mp3guy: does the 5.10 ubuntu cd have 'gparted'?
[04:29] <NickGarvey> aeo: yes
[04:29] <NickGarvey> aeo: let me find the line
[04:29] <mp3guy> Yes Moodles] 
[04:29] <SeanTater> nickwebcouk: you chould take another idea and make sure they lack permissions to read, write, or execute any important files you have
[04:29] <Aeo> NickGarvey: Thanks.
[04:29] <NickGarvey> aeo: timeout         0
[04:30] <NickGarvey> aeo: change timeout         10 or whatever to 0
[04:30] <SeanTater> nickwebcouk: it;s probably also possiblt to remove some of the control systems from the menu and panel
[04:30] <NickGarvey> aeo: and set the default to the line where windows is
[04:30] <NickGarvey> aeo: place holders count as lines! and the first line is 0
[04:30] <NickGarvey> aeo: hold esc otherwise
[04:30] <nickwebcouk> SeanTater, yeh, thats what I  was looking to do..
[04:30] <NickGarvey> aeo: and you will get the window
[04:31] <NickGarvey> aeo: here, pastebin menu.lst and I'll do it for you
[04:31] <SeanTater> nickwebcouk: right click the things on the panel you don;t want them to have and remove
[04:31] <mp3guy> SeanTater, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16553
[04:31] <NET||abuse> hmm, export for my proxy isn't right,,, should just be
[04:31] <nickwebcouk> ahh
[04:31] <Aeo> NickGarvey: Thanks a bunch, but I don't have Ubuntu installed yet. I spent last weekend trying to get it to boot to Ubuntu only if a certain floppy were in the system.
[04:31] <nickwebcouk> i cant believe it was that simple..
[04:32] <SeanTater> NickGarvey: hold on  -- your using gnome, right ,, I was prepared for kde, you're going to have to keep asking for gnome
[04:32] <NET||abuse> export http_proxy user:pass@proxyip:proxyport
[04:32] <NickGarvey> aeo: oh heh
[04:32] <NET||abuse> is that right?
[04:32] <nickwebcouk> right, im off to stop my sisters doing anything on the pc. :P
[04:32] <nickwebcouk> thank u!
[04:32] <NickGarvey> SeanTater: ?
[04:32] <SeanTater> NickGarvey: oops -- wrong person
[04:32] <NickGarvey> SeanTater: i use kde
[04:32] <NickGarvey> oh
[04:32] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:32] <SeanTater> NickGarvey: oh well, he already fixed it anyway
[04:32] <Aeo> NickGarvey: I'll try what you said. Where is the file I should be changing?
[04:32] <NickGarvey> SeanTater: okie
[04:32] <Diakonoi> Hello, guys. Can anyone refer me to a noob-friendly site that can explain the basics of using Ubuntu Linux as my primary OS, including how to install programs from the source code? I'm very new to Linux, so I'm afraid I don't know hardly anything.
[04:32] <NickGarvey> aeo: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:33] <NET||abuse> i do my exoprt http_proxy and it says `http-proxy` : not a valid identifier?? what is the right variable to specify here?
[04:33] <NickGarvey> aeo: but ubuntu likes to put the line "Other operating systems:", you need to remember that counts
[04:33] <ufk> do i need to change universe to multiverse in sources.list or do i need to add both?
[04:33] <NickGarvey> aeo: think you should set default to.. 3.. I think
[04:33] <Aeo> NickGarvey: Thanks. I'll return if unsuccessful. :D
[04:33] <NickGarvey> aeo: if windows is the 4th one down
[04:33] <NickGarvey> aeo: :) ok
[04:34] <freezey> i am lookin for a form of a HTTP FS or even a VFS i want people to be able to login and retrieve files and have certain permissions to see certain files... any1 know nething good?
[04:34] <SeanTater> mp3guy: phooey -- I managed to get both commands wrong, anyway, howe3ver you like, make sure apache2 or httpd is running
[04:34] <Aeo> NickGarvey: One last thing. When I want to boot to Ubuntu, you said I should hold down Esc?
[04:34] <mp3guy> SeanTater, how do I start either of them
[04:34] <SeanTater> freezey: ssh is really good for what you had said, ftp's not bad either, but http is probably least suited
[04:35] <Diakonoi> Can anyone help me, please?
[04:35] <SeanTater> mp3guy: sudo apache2ctl start <- starts apache2
[04:35] <SeanTater> !helpme > Diakonoi
[04:35] <TrioTorus> freezey, webdav?
[04:35] <Aeo> NickGarvey?
[04:35] <Quiznos> freezey ftp via http?  do you mean ftp-anchors on http pages?
[04:35] <freezey> seantater: yeah but i am sayin i need it to be user friendly because alot of people are stupid u know what i am sayin? and i need it to update on its own
[04:35] <The_Guardian> even with the debian install
[04:35] <The_Guardian> getting the same error
[04:35] <freezey> quiznos: not sure what that is
[04:35] <freezey> triotorus: whats that
[04:35] <finalbeta> How can I repair a corrupted fat32 partition? can't mount it.
[04:36] <Quiznos> freezey ok, thenyou're not ready to do what you want to do.
[04:36] <TrioTorus> freezey, it's file tranfer over http. read and write www.webdav.org
[04:36] <SeanTater> freezey: konqueror and kde's i/o handles ssh almost as simply as http, same with ftp
[04:36] <mp3guy> ok, SeanTater, going to http://127.0.0.1/index.htm gives me my page, but going to my external IP still askes for a username and password
[04:36] <Paladine> yellow :)
[04:36] <TrioTorus> freezey, works with any os client
[04:36] <Quiznos> Paladine magenta
[04:36] <Diakonoi> I need a noob-friendly guide to using Ubuntu Linux as my primary operating systems, and doing thing such as installing programs from the source code in Linux. I'm very new to using alternative OSes.
[04:37] <Paladine> any 6.06 amd64 gurus awake?
[04:37] <Quiznos> Diakonoi check the unbuntu homesite
[04:37] <finalbeta> How can I repair a corrupted fat32 partition? can't mount it.
[04:37] <Quiznos> Diakonoi also tldp.net
[04:37] <CarlFK> time play /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav = real    1m10.058s
[04:37] <SeanTater> mp3guy: your router may have password protection, you might want to check
[04:37] <sistema>  hola
 alguien me puede ayudar
 no puedo configurar la red tengo tres tarjetas de red como configuro interfaces alguien tiene un ejemplo a ver como lo configuro
[04:37] <sistema> help mi pleace
[04:37] <mp3guy> SeanTater, it does
[04:37] <sistema> alguien que me ayude a configurar
[04:38] <SeanTater> !es > sistema
[04:38] <Quiznos> sistema #linux.es
[04:38] <sistema> mi tarjeta de red
[04:38] <Paladine> am trying to get the 6 channel sound working with nforce4 onboard ac97 sound
[04:38] <CarlFK> it plays it about 16x, then switches volume and another 16x,
[04:38] <SeanTater> !es
[04:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:38] <Quiznos> wow a bot
[04:38] <SeanTater> freezey: gnome, AFAIK, handles it well too
[04:38] <Quiznos> ##Linux dont bot
[04:38] <Quiznos> heh
[04:39] <mp3guy> ok, goign to my external ip brings me to my router. How do I make it go to /var/www/index.htm SeanTater
[04:39] <SeanTater> freezey: there is also filezilla for windows
[04:39] <Paladine> to be honest it might already be working, Idon't know how to test it
[04:39] <MadMerC> hi guys can anyone tell me how to find my external ip ???
[04:39] <freezey> SeanTater: like i was using phpgroupware but there is noway to upload to it realtime every file had to be put there manually
[04:39] <Quiznos> MadMerC ifconfig -a |less
[04:39] <Paladine> is there an app to test sound channels?
[04:39] <Quiznos> cat
[04:39] <jrib> MadMerC: whatismy.org
[04:39] <freezey> SeanTater: but other than that it did everything i needed it to do it was an online file manager that i had to run apache sql and php for it to run
[04:40] <ani_gfu> neutrinomass: hey. got the mouse working. but the net wont work now. *sigh*
[04:40] <jrib> MadMerC: whatismyip.org
[04:40] <SeanTater> mp3guy: I don;t know that much, it;s all in your router configuration
[04:40] <lotheac> Paladine: speaker-test
[04:40] <Paladine> thanks loth
[04:40] <SeanTater> mp3guy: sorry
[04:40] <freezey> seantater: i just needed sumthin that would give certain users certain permissions to see files and i would be able to write a script bash or batch  that would update realtime
[04:40] <jrib> MadMerC: hmm that seems to be down now, try whatismyip.com instead
[04:40] <lotheac> well, speaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround51, actually... for me anyway
[04:40] <NET||abuse> emmm, umm
[04:40] <NET||abuse> hehe, whatismyip.org got my LAN ip
[04:40] <NET||abuse> how the hell??
[04:41] <tijn> wtf???
[04:41] <SeanTater> freezey: okay, are you using this on linux or windows or both?
[04:41] <CarlFK> and my other problem: apt-get build-dep wine = Package libicu28-dev has no installation candidate
[04:41] <Dr34mC0d3r> ubuntu 6.06 (new install) - I login and type mail - no mail for chris. yet i cd to /home/chris/Maildir/new and see a butt load of mail even for today....  how can i fix this so that I can login and type mail and read my mail.
[04:41] <freezey> seantater: both
[04:41] <ufk> what mirror can i use instead of us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[04:41] <Quiznos> ca.archive?
[04:41] <freezey> seantater: but if nething most of the files are comin from a windows machine
[04:41] <freezey> seantater: so i will just run the whole thing on that
[04:41] <Quiznos> ufk find the mirrors list
[04:41] <mp3guy> SeanTater, would it have anything to do with the route table/default gateway?
[04:41] <The_Guardian> I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16554 when I try to ./runFrost.sh
[04:41] <MadMerC> what im trying to do is make a superkaramba theme show my external ip the script only shows my network ip
[04:42] <Diakonoi> Also, can someone please find a way to explain (in noob terms) how I would install and use this:http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/ on Ubuntu Lniux 5.10? I've looked at the wiki and everything, but it's all so confusing for me.
[04:42] <The_Guardian> even though I have sun-java5-jre
[04:42] <SeanTater> freezey: well, ftp still fits your bill exactly, but ssh needs 100% linux, or at least mostly linux
[04:42] <SeanTater> mp3guy: sounds to me like it, try it
[04:42] <trygvebw> Any reason why i can't uninstall Firefox (i want to replace it with SeaMonkey) without having to uninstall gnome-app-install and yelp?
[04:42] <chacara> i need stop TOR + Privoxy in my LAN, anybody have a good idea?
[04:42] <SeanTater> mp3guy: remember what you're doing so you can un-do it if necessary
[04:42] <tijn> trygvebw: apt-get remove --purge firefox
[04:42] <trygvebw> tijn: won't that create lots of dependency problems?
[04:42] <freezey> seantater: the thing is i am going to have like 50 year old men or women and lawyers logging in so u gotta act like 3 year olds are using
[04:43] <burepe> !restricted formats
[04:43] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:43] <tijn> trygvebw: afaik, nope
[04:43] <trygvebw> okay..
[04:43] <tijn> but
[04:43] <tijn> iam not 100% sure
[04:43] <SeanTater> freezey: you can set up http with htaccess, thast would work, but it tedius, slow, and only downloads, no uploads
[04:43] <tijn> ive done it a lot of times with no problems
[04:43] <trygvebw> tijn: it still wants to remove yelp and gnome-app-install
[04:43] <Paladine> lotheac, speaker-test with no args just sends white noise to front right and left (nothing on center or rear channels) and using the -c6 etc args gives a shed load of errors hehe
[04:43] <MadMerC> is there a command that will show mre my external ip when im behind a router ??
[04:44] <tijn> trygvebw: thats wierd
[04:44] <SeanTater> freezey: an idea
[04:44] <TrioTorus> freezey, webdav is integrated in XP, so to your clients webdav will look exactly like any other folder on your desktop
[04:44] <freezey> seantater: thats what i want they can not upload
[04:44] <scott> can aon yoen suggest a program to deal with/mount .ccd or .img files??
[04:44] <SeanTater> freezey: does rsync or anything compatible work on windows?
[04:44] <scott> *anyone
[04:44] <freezey> seantater: not sure
[04:44] <tijn> SeanTater: mount a windows share as samba
[04:44] <Quiznos> man it's fast and furious here
[04:44] <freezey> triotorus: does webdav sound like what i am lookin for?
[04:44] <SeanTater> freezey: but they would have to dowload the files one at time -- tedoiusness at it's worst
[04:45] <apostols> Hi
[04:45] <freezey> seantater: i can careless about them lol as long as its up and running
[04:45] <TrioTorus> freezey, ftp will do too, but your clients will need an ftp client wich for seniors is confusing
[04:45] <freezey> seantater: my main thing is i want it to upload realtime so i don;t have to manually do it... i want it done at a certain time everyday
[04:45] <Quiznos> a web browser can do ftp
[04:45] <apostols> Where can i download enlightenment 17 for ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[04:45] <TrioTorus> freezey, this is what they will have to do http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/oet/network/webdavwinXP.html
[04:45] <lotheac> Paladine: what errors?
[04:45] <freezey> seantater: but a script can take care of that
[04:46] <erirlar> hi, how do i restart the network? (like windows has "ipconfig /release")
[04:46] <Paladine> loth, a whole bunch, I ^c'd out but here is the last couple
[04:46] <Paladine> ALSA lib conf.c:3951:(snd_config_expand) Args evaluate error: No such file or directory
[04:46] <Paladine> ALSA lib pcm.c:2102:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround51
[04:46] <Paladine> Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[04:46] <mp3guy> Thanks for taking me this far anyway seantater
[04:46] <SeanTater> freezey: what's wrong with windows networking anyway, (can a batch file not handle that)?
[04:46] <Quiznos> cr3
[04:46] <freezey> triotorus: i am trying outside clients to get the files
[04:46] <cr3> Quiznos: yo?
[04:46] <SeanTater> mp3guy: sorry I can;t take you further
[04:46] <Quiznos> cr3
[04:47] <freezey> seantater: i am trying to get outside clients to retrieve files
[04:47] <The_Guardian> anyone here familiar with packet analysis?
[04:47] <freezey> seantater: like phpgroupware was perfect for me but  i can'
[04:47] <SeanTater> freezey: ah -- so it;s outside the local net
[04:47] <freezey> i can't upload if its not done manually
[04:47] <lotheac> Paladine: maybe try without the -D part.
[04:47] <freezey> seantater: yeah outside the localnet
[04:47] <SeanTater> freezey: well
[04:48] <TrioTorus> freezey, yes, no problem with webdav. If your clients have internet acces on port 80, they can handle webdav.
[04:48] <TrioTorus> SeanTater, u familiar with webdav? Is that what freezey is looking for?
[04:48] <freezey> triotorus: yeah but i don't want them using an FTP client... it can be just regular webaccess
[04:49] <SeanTater> TrioTorus: never used it
[04:49] <Paladine> loth ok that worked to some degree, I am getting sound on all channels except front centre
[04:49] <b33r> buhh cant find anythin how to install my tv tuner on ubuntu :<
[04:49] <cormano> hi
[04:49] <TrioTorus> freezey, well, just take a minute to read webdav. It sounds like it is exactly what you want
[04:49] <scott> can anyone suggest a program to deal with/mount .ccd or .img files??
[04:49] <SeanTater> TrioTorus: heard a bit about it, but not enough to suggest it, all he wants is to up/download uding windows outside the local net
[04:49] <freezey> triotorus: i need it to have specific file permissions when users login also so lets see
[04:50] <TrioTorus> freezey, SeanTater webdav offers that
[04:50] <Paladine> it seems to be sending center to the rear left speaker
[04:50] <SeanTater> TrioTorus: then it's good
[04:50] <SeanTater> TrioTorus: tell him, not me
[04:50] <neutrinomass> ani_gfu: How did you get the mouse to work ?
[04:50] <ruxpin^> where do I find a list of all installed packages?
[04:51] <rpedro> scott: bchunk works with bin/cue
[04:51] <TrioTorus> sorry
[04:51] <cormano> anyone got to apply and recompile this kernel patch:  http://linux-phc.sourceforge.net/     ?
[04:51] <neutrinomass> ani_gfu: How do you connect to the net ?
[04:51] <ruxpin^> b33r: dvb?
[04:51] <cormano> to standard dapper kernel
[04:51] <scott> rpedro, i need to be able to deal with/convert .ccd or .img
[04:51] <b33r> ruxpin, what's dvb? :S
[04:51] <rpedro> scott: don't know about .ccd/.img, google may help
[04:51] <BCK14> how would i find out where synaptic installed padjoy ?
[04:51] <TrioTorus> freezey, just check out www.webdav.org for a minute. You have to set up an webserver, but that is easy.
[04:51] <SeanTater> ruxpin^:  type into a terminal: dpkg -l
[04:52] <Quiznos> dvb = digital video broadcasting
[04:52] <scott> rpedro, searched and couldnt find any hat would a) install or b) compile within dapper
[04:52] <b33r> oh :/
[04:52] <rpedro> scott: those are clonecd images right?
[04:52] <scott> rpedro, yes
[04:53] <lotheac> Paladine: it does that to me too, but -Dplug:surround51 fixes it. I'm not sure why you don't have that device.
[04:53] <Paladine> k loth, here is what it is doing:  Front Right = OK, Front Left =OK, Center = Rear Left (!ok), LFE= Rear Right, Rear Right = Nothing and Rear Left = Nothing
[04:53] <Moodles> mp3guy: thanks, gparted is working like a charm
[04:53] <The_Guardian> yay got frostwire working
[04:53] <BCK14> how would i find out where synaptic installed padjoy ?
[04:53] <The_Guardian> it needed the plugin also
[04:53] <gambi> is it possible to activate the dir_index option in ext3-fs afterwards, or do i have to rebuild my partition?
[04:54] <jrib> BCK14: dpkg -L padjoy
[04:55] <mjr> gambi, it is possible. Old data will remain nonindexed, but you can do e2fsck -D to change that
[04:55] <Paladine> whats LFE incidentally?
[04:55] <BCK14> jrib: aparently u can see in synaptic too :d
[04:55] <lotheac> Paladine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LFE ;)
[04:55] <gambi> mjr, thx
[04:56] <Paladine> ah right so it should be sending LFE to the woofer
[04:56] <Amduscias> Hi all, anyone got some clue about the Nvidia Nforce Binarie Drivers (Audio).. i got some hassle here, which i'm unable to solve alone ;)
[04:56] <Minty__> can someone give me the link to post large messages rather than using irc please
[04:56] <Quiznos> pastebin.com
[04:56] <Quiznos> what kind of posts
[04:56] <Paladine> I wonder if changing the order I plugged them into the sound card will make a difference
[04:57] <Minty__> pstebin was what I was looking for, thankyou
[04:57] <Paladine> it works fine in windows
[04:57] <Quiznos> yw
[04:57] <Paladine> but to me it looked like the plugs were in the wrong sockets
[04:57] <Paladine> I will have another look now
[04:57] <maddy> i cant write to my ipod with rhytmbox? but how can i ?
[04:57] <Paladine> brb
[04:57] <Quiznos> brh
[04:57] <rpedro> scott: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ccd2iso ?
[04:57] <AJR1> guys can i search IRC for a specific user?
[04:58] <lotheac> Paladine: I have nforce4 and if I don't use plug:surround51 as my playback device my channels are wrong as well.
[04:58] <maddy> ajr1 what do u mean
[04:58] <cisa> is nvidia-glx broken? http://pastebin.de/8081
[04:58] <AJR1> like if i know someones username can i find out where they are on IRC?
[04:58] <maddy> AJR1,  do u know the nickname?
[04:58] <rpedro> scott: it's not available as a deb package, you will need to compile it
[04:58] <maddy> ues
[04:58] <AJR1> maddy : how?
[04:58] <maddy> AJR1,  /whois nickname
[04:58] <AJR1> maddy : thanks :)
[04:58] <Paladine> loth, I just checked the back panel, I have leads going into bass/center, front and rear
[04:58] <Quiznos> AJR1 the usermoe +i prevents one from seeing a user's channel list
[04:58] <Quiznos> usermode
[04:58] <Paladine> nothing in mic, line in or side
[04:58] <AJR1> Quiznos : ah thanks
[04:59] <Paladine> (7.1 support on this card)
[04:59] <maddy> AJR1,  and then look in the server window :)
[04:59] <Quiznos> AJR1 but you can always /msg them
[04:59] <AJR1> maddy : thanks :)
[04:59] <AJR1> Quiznos : i have no idea where on IRC they are i just know their username
[04:59] <Quiznos> AJR1 then just msg them
[04:59] <AJR1> Quiznos : ok
[04:59] <maddy> ajr1 but there are many irc networks offcourse
[04:59] <Paladine> loth, did you have to do anything special to enable the surround51 device?
[04:59] <maddy> u have to be on tha same network :)
[04:59] <monkkey> yea
[04:59] <lotheac> Paladine: nothing I remember... try aplay -L | grep surround
[04:59] <maddy> i cant write to my ipod with rhytmbox? but how can i ?
[05:00] <yggdrasil> anything that can convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[05:00] <Paladine> surround40 'cards.pcm.surround40'
[05:00] <Paladine> surround41 'cards.pcm.surround41'
[05:00] <Paladine> surround50 'cards.pcm.surround50'
[05:00] <Paladine> surround51 'cards.pcm.surround51'
[05:00] <Paladine> surround71 'cards.pcm.surround71'
[05:00] <Paladine> paladine@main:~$
[05:00] <Paladine> oops sorry
[05:00] <lotheac> don't paste here :o
[05:00] <Quiznos> .oO flude
[05:00] <Paladine> I meant to paste it on one line
[05:00] <pc_butler> does any one knows gnubox?
[05:00] <lotheac> well... just -Dsurround51 then maybe?
[05:01] <Quiznos> pc_butler define it
[05:01] <Paladine> still giving device errors
[05:01] <pc_butler> Quiznos, http://gnubox.dnsalias.org/gnubox/
[05:01] <The_Guardian> what's the syntax to see where something installed to?
[05:01] <The_Guardian> find / -name?
[05:02] <oracle> hi
[05:02] <Quiznos> pc_butler bud i dun wanna surf </whine>
[05:02] <Quiznos> heh
[05:02] <Quiznos> pc_butler just write a won liner
[05:02] <oracle> que tal como estan?
[05:02] <pc_butler> Quiznos,  its free gprs through cell phones
[05:02] <Quiznos> sweet
[05:02] <Quiznos> dunot kow it
[05:02] <oracle> que?
[05:02] <oracle> no
[05:02] <Quiznos> juanta na mera
[05:02] <pc_butler> sweet indeed
[05:02] <Quiznos> dont tell the feds
[05:03] <str8edge> anyone know how to get wmv files to play properly? All of mine are interlaced.
[05:03] <oracle> sweet why?
[05:03] <oracle> bye ogt
[05:03] <Quiznos> someone wants to know where they are to the last nm
[05:03] <cisa> str8edge: simplest way is sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:03] <str8edge> CISA: vlc doesn't use the wmv9 codecs..
[05:03] <str8edge> its installed :)
[05:04] <rpedro> scott: wait
[05:04] <rpedro> scott: you can mount an .img file just like an iso
[05:04] <rpedro> scott: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-109714.html
[05:04] <cisa> str8edge: hmm, then get latest codect from the mplayer homepage and extract them to /usr/lib/win32
[05:04] <ems> hi
[05:04] <ems> http://www.r-36.net/FrOScon06/DSC00068.JPG
[05:04] <gnomefreak> str8edge: did you isntall w32codecs?
[05:04] <pigor> hi. when i close the lid of my notebook and after a while open it, the display is mostly white. it seems for me that acpi does anything i dont want - how can i deactivate any actions of acpi?
[05:04] <roostishaw> how do i turn on numlock on startup? and how do i start programs minimized on startup?
[05:05] <ems> hahaha
[05:05] <gnomefreak> s/isntall/install
[05:05] <The_Guardian> nvm answered my own question
[05:05] <cisa> str8edge: install xine-ui and change the settings to use this path for codecs
[05:05] <ems> Plan 9 solves Ubuntu and Fedora's CD problems.
[05:05] <AJR1> i cant handle this much longer, cant wait to get ubuntu onto my spare machine :D:D:D
[05:05] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: Thanks again for helping me with my HDD problem earlier
[05:05] <The_Guardian> lol I <3 ubuntu
[05:05] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: N/p. It worked :) ?
[05:05] <The_Guardian> if I could get all my games and apps to work on it I would toss my copy of winblows out the window
[05:05] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: aha. you're back. :)
[05:06] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: ui got mouse figured out. but the net wont work :(
[05:06] <scott> rpedro, will have a look thanks
[05:06] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: yep, if my HD does fail, will that error just happen agin and again and again?
[05:06] <pevelius> hi. any help for a problem? my friend tries to log in to dapper, he gets immediately back to gdm. same happens when typing #gnome-session from failsafe terminal. it worked till last week, when he apt-get installed ark.
[05:06] <Minty__> anyone managed to post in pastebin, its seems broken :(
[05:06] <roostishaw> how do i turn on numlock on startup? and how do i start programs minimized on startup?
[05:06] <The_Guardian> try apt-get remove --purge ark to revert it back
[05:06] <gatekeeper> roostishaw: in kubuntu I go to system settings and keyboard
[05:06] <Quiznos> Minty__ pastebin.ca
[05:06] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Nope. It just won't boot one day. Take a look at 'smartmontools'. I think it's in universe. It will help you determine if the hard disk is failing (disclaimer: it doesn't produce false positives, but does produce false negatives )
[05:07] <The_Guardian> then start the fun of troubleshooting
[05:07] <neutrinomass> ani_fu: How do you connect to the net ?
[05:07] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: the numlocks thing you can find at help.ubuntu.com the other one not sure
[05:07] <MikkelRev> Can someone help me installing ActiveX for FireFox ? I downloaded a .xpi file, but get a error
[05:07] <pevelius> guardian: ark shouldnt be the problem...
[05:07] <kbrosnan> MikkelRev, it is windows only
[05:07] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: :D false negatives, meaning it will tell me it's fine when it's not?
[05:07] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: i have DLink 502-T ADSL modem. basically my phone line is also the net connection
[05:08] <Minty__> Thanks Quiznos
[05:08] <MikkelRev> kbrosnan: does it work for FireFox Windows-version, but not FireFox GNU-version ?
[05:08] <Quiznos> yw
[05:08] <Minty__> http://pastebin.ca/72093 some help pleas
[05:08] <The_Guardian> shouldn't be, but if it was fine before ark was installed then by removing it he can at least retain usability
[05:08] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: Exactly. Other warnings include clicking noises, data loss, system hard locks etc. Always backup!
[05:08] <neutrinomass> ani_fu: USB I guess? No ethernet port ?
[05:08] <MikkelRev> kbrosnan: perhaps if I used FireFox Windows-version through wine, ActiveX will work?
[05:08] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: all the settings are stored in the router so in xp i just have to plug it in and thats it
[05:08] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: ok, thanks!
[05:08] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: got both
[05:08] <The_Guardian> then again if it generates an error msg. He can pastebin it for us
[05:08] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: No problem, glad to help :)
[05:08] <pevelius> actually he did remove it without purge. that was my first advice.
[05:08] <The_Guardian> ahh hmm
[05:08] <The_Guardian> did any error get generated?
[05:09] <Paladine> loth, gonna drop a post in the x64 forum see if anyone is having similar problems with surround51 device
[05:09] <kbrosnan> MikkelRev, Yes it is Windows only, ActiveX does not work on Mac/Linux. It might work on Wine.
[05:09] <pevelius> nope, no errors
[05:09] <lotheac> Paladine: well, I'm on amd64 as well
[05:09] <neutrinomass> ani_fu: If you can, use the ethernet port. USB ADSL modems are currently a pain for Linux users :( It should work out of the box if you use the ethernet prot though .
[05:09] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, where can i find info about numlocks? i cant seem to find it in the desktop guide...
[05:09] <lotheac> honestly I don't know what's your problem
[05:09] <lotheac> ... rather, what your problem is *
[05:10] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: ok. i was trying on usb initially. will try ethernet. so it should work just like that right?
[05:10] <masinger53> Hello, All:  Fresh Ubuntu amd64 install - Totem fails to play DVD with message:  "Totem cannot play this type of media (DVD) because you do not have the appropriate plugins to handle it."
[05:10] <pevelius> masinger53: use automatix to install necessary codecs
[05:10] <neutrinomass> ani_fu: AFAIK yes
[05:11] <Ng> masinger53: unfortunately the gstreamer in dapper, while being vastly better than the one in breezy, has a small problem in that it can't play DVDs afaik. VLC or Xine should manage fine though
[05:11] <ani_fu> neutrinomass: thanks. will try it
[05:11] <BIAF> need webmin help
[05:11] <_Roman> Hello, how can I stop ubuntu from restarting X when I press Shift-Ctrl-Backspace?
[05:12] <pevelius> i dont undestand why typing gnome-session in failsafe terminal takes you back to gdm
[05:12] <gatekeeper> masinger53: this any help? http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[05:12] <Paladine> loth, well at least you helped me confirm that I have 6 channel support working, just the channels are in the wrong order, so I am grateful for that, it is a lot further than I was :)
[05:12] <Ng> _Roman: are you using Xgl?
[05:13] <_Roman> Ng: yeah
[05:13] <lotheac> Paladine: no problem :P if you want, you could paste the full output if you try -Dplug:surround51 to pastebin or something
[05:13] <Ng> _Roman: I don't know the solution, but I've seen it mentioned and it involved xmodmap. Sorry that's not terribly helpful, but perhaps googling for xgl xmodmap will turn something up
[05:13] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: sorry to bug you again, how do I use smartmontools?
[05:15] <neutrinomass> zerboxx: You're not bugging me, I'm here to help people :P After installing, you need to run 'smartctl'. "man smartctl" should give you details on its usage. IIRC "sudo smartctl -t long /dev/hda" will perform a thorough test, but I'm not sure - its been a while
[05:15] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: ok, let me test that out
[05:16] <masinger53> preve:  what is automatix and where do I get it?
[05:16] <tijn> zerboxx ssh is my girlfriend!
[05:16] <tijn> go away!
[05:16] <tijn> ;)
[05:16] <neutrinomass> !automatix > masinger53
[05:16] <pevelius> automatix is a script, and can be found searching the ubuntu forums
[05:16] <zerboxx> tijn: HAHAHA I was about to say I think I'm going to marry ssh
[05:17] <ufk> i'm using dapper, i'm trying to run apache2 with phpsu and php5.1 (latest dapper packages), now the server works, but when i try to run a php script i get [Mon Jun 26 18:10:32 2006]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  Premature end of script headers: test.php, referer: http://127.0.0.1/
[05:17] <pevelius> or google automatix
[05:17] <masinger53> pevelius: thanks
[05:17] <Krank_> Couple of questions: I have XP and Vista b2 installed using Vista's boot manager, would installing ububtu work allowing all three to boot (not impressed by vista though)?
[05:17] <tijn> zerboxx: ;) hehe
[05:18] <tijn> iam going home cya all
[05:18] <Krank_> Also, any reason to choose the 32bit version over the 64 bit one?
[05:18] <BIAF> when i try to start APache is get : ERROR: User directive in  requires SUEXEC wrapper. - any server heads know whats up here
[05:18] <wycats> 'm getting the following error when I try to do dpkg removes: "dpkg --remove returned error exit status 1."
[05:18] <wycats> s/'m/I'm
[05:19] <pevelius> anyone? in gmd, after entering password, nothing happens. also, in failsafe terminal, typing gnome-session, gdm returns
[05:20] <Ng> Krank_: multimedia codecs and browser plugins, mostly
[05:21] <Minty__> May I re ask, Can anyone help on http://pastebin.ca/72093 , thanks
[05:21] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: me again :P /dev/hda is my cd drive, and I forget how to figure out what the HD is...
[05:21] <Krank_> Thanks Ng
[05:22] <prosfigas> hello
[05:22] <prosfigas> Can anyone help me on some questions I have regarding tcng and Hierachical token buckets?
[05:23] <Paladine> weirdness
[05:23] <Paladine> trying to post to ubu forums
[05:23] <Paladine> it is saying I am using 18 images
[05:23] <Paladine> I am using zero images
[05:23] <zerboxx> neutrinomass: nvm
[05:23] <wycats> I need to get a list of installed apps
[05:23] <wycats> ...
[05:23] <gatekeeper> Minty__: have you got Adept or synaptic running while trying to do something with the CLI?
[05:24] <Paladine> ahh disable smileys works :)
[05:24] <Minty__> gatekeeper no
[05:26] <TokenBad> ok ran into a problem today...got icon showing new updates and tried to use it...but its telling me wrong password..even though its the only pass on this system...
[05:26] <TokenBad> anyone know how to fix that?
[05:26] <pequatre> hi. has anyone had problems with using Thingamablog with ubuntu and Java 1.5.0_06 ? Thingamablog will start but won't create the database... :(
[05:27] <gatekeeper> Minty__: say another process using it, so what ever you are trying to, another process is already in existance and needs killing, what are you trying to do?
[05:27] <Minty__> gatekeeper was just trying an apt-get update
[05:28] <Minty__> am a noob so just playing really :)
[05:28] <funkmaster> hey ppl, i was trying to get *.3gp media files to work on ubuntu, i have video but no sound..., compiled ffmpeg with amr support the output can be seen here http://pastebin.ca/72100 then i got the svn of vlc and tried to compile it but with no success, the output can be seen here http://pastebin.ca/72099 i have no idea what is going wrong, can some please help? thx in advance :D
[05:28] <pequatre> TokenBad, try writing your password in clear somewhere and copy/paste it, maybe ? so you're sure you're not miswriting
[05:29] <Krank_> Ng, with plugins and codecs in mind, what would you install?
[05:29] <TokenBad> pequatre, not work...still says wrong
[05:30] <fsancho> hi all
[05:30] <fsancho> i have a problem with the sound
[05:30] <Ng> Krank_: personally I use the amd64 version and just run a 32bit firefox, but it has issues. if you want it painfree and don't really mind about the (almost certainly unnoticeable) performance difference, I'd go with the 32bit
[05:30] <fsancho> i have upgraded a breezy to dapper in a thinkpad 600X
[05:30] <ufk> dapper is unstable?
[05:30] <Ng> ufk: no, dapper is the current stable release
[05:30] <pequatre> TokenBad, try and see if there're no other processes running, try "ps aux|grep update" and see what shows ?
[05:30] <fsancho> now the alsa driver don't work in native mode, only oss emulation
[05:30] <BCK14> hmm i have a command which will run in shell but doesnt seem to run from a launcher
[05:31] <fsancho> any idea
[05:31] <fsancho> ?
[05:31] <Ng> BCK14: what's the command?
[05:31] <BCK14> gksu /home/olid/pyGogear-5.9.tar.gz_FILES/run.sh > /home/olid/pyGogear-5.9.tar.gz_FILES/log.txt
[05:31] <BCK14> run.sh i wrote myself calls a python script
[05:31] <Answer> BCK14, try adding /bin/bash to force the shell
[05:31] <Answer> BCK14, also use the full path of run.sh
[05:31] <BCK14> Answer: to which bit ?
[05:32] <BCK14> i dont understand?
[05:32] <cmk> HELLO
[05:32] <gatekeeper> Minty__: try loging out then loging back in that might clear it
[05:32] <Ng> BCK14: I doubt the > will work and the .sh will need a terminal to run in
[05:32] <Answer> BCK14, the launcher command would be   /bin/bash /home/BCK14/run.sh    or something like that
[05:32] <masinger53> Ng:  Re: the 32bit - do you mean to use the x86 LiveCD rather than the amd64?
[05:32] <BCK14> ok
[05:32] <cmk> AVEC QUI PUIJE BAVARDER
[05:32] <Minty__> gatekeeper ok
[05:32] <Ng> masinger53: yeah
[05:32] <ufk> apache-prefork with php5 doesn't work. when i try to run a phpinfo(); script i get [Mon Jun 26 18:11:59 2006]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x0806fa10 ***, referer: http://127.0.0.1/ Mon Jun 26 18:27:07 2006]  [error]  [client 127.0.0.1]  Premature end of script headers: test.php, referer: http://127.0.0.1/. any ideas?
[05:33] <Answer> BCK14, you could also force  /usr/bin/gksu
[05:33] <ufk> apache2
[05:33] <cmk> JESUIS FRANCAISE
[05:33] <Answer> cmk, try #ubuntu-fr
[05:33] <masinger53> Ng: performance vs. pain-free = negligible payoff?
[05:33] <blkish> hi all :) can anyone recommend a good apache log analyser/filterer, ideally for gnome? i have some huge logs to work on and getting tired of grep'ing! thanks
[05:34] <BCK14> Answer: still didnt work :(
[05:34] <pequatre> cmk, va sur le chan fr
[05:34] <Ng> masinger53: I don't have any numbers to back it up, but I can't spot much difference between the two. IME a desktop system is typically waiting for IO more than it is waiting for the CPU
[05:34] <pequatre> c'est "#ubuntu-fr"
[05:34] <Ng> BCK14: like I said, the .sh needs a terminal and so does the >
[05:34] <BCK14> ill try edit run.sh to force output to the file
[05:34] <monkkey> i have connected a new hdd, now when ubuntu boots is hangs on :begin: waiting for root file system.  why is this and how can i boot to mount my disc?
[05:34] <cmk> MERCI PEQUATRE
[05:34] <Ng> BCK14: or at least the > does
[05:34] <pequatre> no problem
[05:35] <Ng> BCK14: I'd expect that putting the redirect in the .sh would be ok, providing it doesn't ask for user input in the script or anything like that
[05:35] <masinger53> Ng: Well, the base liveCD install is quick and painless so, back in a few on a 32bit
[05:35] <Answer> BCK14, launchers on the taskbar and the desktop have performed differently in my experience
[05:35] <ringe> Where can I download the po file for Inkscape from my Launchpad work? (to submit back to the project)
[05:35] <BCK14> looks like adding the stuff after > call in the python script worked
[05:35] <BCK14> yup :)
[05:36] <BCK14> added it to run.sh and now working nicely :)
[05:36] <ackbahr> I'm trying to resize my linux partition to put XP next to it; how do I know the new size I want to scale hda1 to?
[05:36] <Minty> gatekeeper relooged no differnece   http://pastebin.ca/72106
[05:36] <BCK14> ty Answer + Ng ! :)
[05:36] <NoUse> ackbahr how big is your drive?
[05:37] <Minty> anyone no why I am not allowed to write in frenode channel ??
[05:37] <NickGarvey> Minty: you need voice, wait
[05:37] <NickGarvey> Minty: takes a while
[05:37] <Minty> k
[05:37] <fsancho> another question
[05:38] <apostols> Where can i download enlightenment 17 for ubuntu Dapper Drake?
[05:38] <NoUse> ackbahr I would have at least 5gig for ubuntu
[05:38] <NoUse> ackbahr so make your windows drive ~50 gigs
[05:38] <fsancho> where "gnome media selector" has gone
[05:38] <fsancho> er, sorry
[05:39] <ackbahr> Ah, ok.... I mean, Ubuntu is already there, and I want to REsize its partition
[05:39] <someothernick> !gparted
[05:39] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:39] <NickGarvey> apostols: if you find out do tell me.. I looked for a while
[05:39] <freezey> seantater: i got it figured out
[05:39] <gatekeeper> Minty: may be your sources (/etc/apt/sources.list) are a bit screwed up, have a look at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:40] <apostols> NickGarvey: ?
[05:40] <NoUse> ackbahr oh, ok, so your asking how big to make the ubuntu partition?
[05:40] <ub_newb> is there any place I can do a driver request for a usb wifi device?
[05:40] <gatekeeper> Minty: the  Repositories section
[05:40] <NoUse> ub_newb email the company that makes it
[05:41] <ackbahr> Yes; in fact, I don't know "where" the data is in this partition, and what size it takes up! :)
[05:41] <ub_newb> NoUse: yeah I just did
[05:41] <Minty> gatekeeper well this may b true as I installed automatix and said cancel at the end, which deleted the file so I recreated it fom the backup
[05:41] <NickGarvey> apostols: I couldn't find .17
[05:41] <NickGarvey> apostols: I couldn't find e17*
[05:41] <ub_newb> but I don't think there's any profit for them to be made by creating linux drivers, so they probably won't do it
[05:41] <NoUse> ackbahr run 'df -h' and it will tell you how much its taking up
[05:41] <gatekeeper> Minty: I like to take things one at a time
[05:41] <TheBigToe> how do I use my pc as a bluetooth headset for my phone?
[05:42] <ub_newb> NoUse: no other place where I could request it?
[05:43] <gatekeeper> Minty: if you wanted muti media then I would selectively install some of the packages mentioned here: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full
[05:43] <ackbahr> nouse : and this is +/- the size I can resize, or do I have to "tidy it up" so that everything is "at the beginning" of the part?
[05:43] <TheBigToe> guys, how do I use my pc as a bluetooth headset for my phone?
[05:43] <NoUse> ackbahr no, just use gparted, it will take care of eveyrthing for you
[05:43] <NoUse> ub_newb you can file a bug I suppose
[05:43] <NoUse> !bug
[05:43] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[05:43] <Minty> gatekeeper will look at ehomegrade later, thnaks
[05:43] <Minty> just doing the sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup  etc etc now
[05:43] <ub_newb> hmmm okay thanks... though it ain't a bug really, it's just unsupported hardware
[05:43] <ackbahr> great....
[05:44] <genoveva> OLA
[05:44] <genoveva> HELLO
[05:44] <ackbahr> and then, how do I do with lilo? (after I install XP in the remaining space)
[05:44] <genoveva> WHAT YOUR NAME?
[05:45] <genoveva> HELLO
[05:45] <TheBigToe> MY NAME IS CAPS LOCK
[05:45] <NoUse> ub_newb well its hard to support the hardware when the company doesn't tell them how it works, otherwise they have to reverse engineer it
[05:45] <TheBigToe> PRESS ME TO stop typing in caps
[05:45] <TheBigToe> *hint hint*
[05:45] <TheBigToe> anyway, how do I use my pc as a bluetooth headset for my phone?
[05:45] <elkbuntop> genoveva, please stop using caps lock and for social talk go to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is the support channel
[05:45] <genoveva> HELLO CAPS
[05:46] <drogers> genoveva, NO SHOUTING PLEASE
[05:46] <NoUse> genoveva turn off caps lock
[05:46] <TheBigToe> like route the audio to/from my phone and PC
[05:46] <cx42> hi everybody, i haven't sound when i'm playing quake3, how can i have sound ?
[05:46] <Minty> gatekeeper better http://pastebin.ca/72116 but not perfect
[05:47] <ub_newb> NoUse: I know, but I also know there's alot of reverse engineered drivers available, so there's people making them and I wonder where I could file a request
[05:47] <loststar4545> ok when installed flash using easy ubuntu  it worked fine  then it stoped doing sound  then i used the info on the forums  to add aoss to the frile and installl the plugin now  play back is really slow and choppy how can i fix this  it was working  just fine before
[05:47] <gatekeeper> Minty: have you got synaptic installed?
[05:47] <Minty> yes
[05:47] <Paladine> loth, just for your reference, here is my forum post - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030
[05:48] <lotheac> saw it, thanks.
[05:48] <gatekeeper> Minty: try starting it up, do a reload and uninstall any broken packages is about the best I can suggest
[05:48] <TheBigToe> how do I use my pc as a bluetooth headset for my phone?
[05:48] <Paladine> I will give you a shout if I manage to get it working and let you know what the problem was
[05:49] <ackbahr> nouse : gparted refuses to act on the hda1, probably because it's the / partition.... How do I walk around this? By using the installation CD's partition tool? Will the resize be safe then?
[05:49] <NoUse> ackbahr get the gparted live cd
[05:49] <NoUse> !tell ackbahr about gparted
[05:49] <cx42> nobody can help me ?
[05:50] <The_Guardian> dapper already has kde right?
[05:50] <NoUse> The_Guardian yes
[05:50] <The_Guardian> ahh ok that's what I thought
[05:50] <The_Guardian> guess I just needed to update to the newest version
[05:50] <ackbahr> Wonderful, thanks nouse and ubotu.... :)
[05:50] <Minty> gatekeeper, that worked, only have E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[05:50] <Minty> E: Unable t
[05:50] <NoUse> !tell ub_newb about wireless
[05:50] <The_Guardian> trying to setup the crystal theme
[05:50] <The_Guardian> !bmp skins
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about bmp skins
[05:51] <The_Guardian> anyone know a good spot for bmp skins? the winamp 2.0 ones don't work as well
[05:51] <freezey> the_guardian: just google it
[05:51] <napsy> how can I oipen a large gif file?
[05:51] <The_Guardian> aye I did
[05:51] <The_Guardian> keep getting dead end sites
[05:51] <gatekeeper> Minty: got any broken packages?
[05:51] <ub_newb> NoUse: thanks for the info
[05:52] <Minty> how do I tell ??
[05:52] <awbassett> On Dapper, everytime I try to open nautilus it crashes. I've looked at some bugs on launchpad but they aren't the same issue as mine.. As Nautilus ALWAYS crashes for me, and I can't browse anything
[05:52] <Minty> I know how to fix as there is a menu line, but not sure if I have any ??
[05:53] <boogieman> hello all, this is not a ubuntu question, but rather a general network monitoring question. i'm trying to monitor a small network and want to basically find out who's eating up the bandwidth. I have tried the tool NTOP, its all good, but not giving me the useful info. Any networking tool recommendations ?
[05:53] <NoUse> The_Guardian bmp just uses xmms themes
[05:53] <gatekeeper> Minty: Synaptic will usually tell you I think it's when you press the status button
[05:54] <napsy> Which program can open large gif animations?
[05:54] <Minty> the no
[05:54] <awbassett> boogieman: You might want to try IPTraf
[05:54] <Minty> *then
[05:55] <boogieman> awbassett: thanks, even IPTraf says so many protocols, blah blah, but not basically "computer 1 is using 90% of the bandwidth"
[05:55] <awbassett> boogieman: sudo apt-get install iptraf
[05:55] <ekl> hi
[05:56] <awbassett> boogieman: oh, I see. Do you have a router that is running linux there?
[05:56] <awbassett> boogieman: and not some linksys/dlink thing
[05:56] <ekl> i'm trying to install ubuntu on an ibook, but i can't find a good keymap
[05:56] <boogieman> awbassett: yes, its a router, dual homed and masquerading
[05:56] <ekl> hints ?
[05:56] <awbassett> boogieman: try bandwidthd
[05:56] <awbassett> boogieman: its only in dapper and edgy, though
[05:56] <roostishaw> anyone, how can i have more than one entry field in a zenity dialog?
[05:57] <abhishek> quit
[05:57] <abhishek> #quit
[05:58] <boogieman> awbassett: what I want is : 'you have 2MB link, from that 20% is taken by computer 1', and when i drill down, it should give from the 20%, 90% is http while the rest is POP sort of answer
[05:58] <awbassett> yeah, well, I don't know of anything like that. Sounds like something you might have to pay for
[05:58] <awbassett> Not saying there isn't anything that does that
[05:58] <awbassett> I just don't know of anything
[05:58] <TheBigToe> how do I use my pc as a bluetooth headset for my phone? like routing the audio to/from the phone and PC
[05:59] <wycats> I need to install webmin-mysql on dapper... but it's not in the dapper repository
[05:59] <wycats> it was in the Breeze repository...
[05:59] <wycats> what do I do?
[05:59] <TheBigToe> eat your PC
[05:59] <boogieman> awbassett: the network tools are VERY informative, but useless to me
[05:59] <Minty> Gatekeepr I have to go, thanks you for your time, things are much better :)
[05:59] <vinicius_> hi folks. anyone experiencing weird fonts with swiftfox? the firefox build that ships with gnome is fine, i just cant fix the fonts on swiftfox (the optimized build for my machine)
[06:00] <awbassett> wycats: do to webmin's website and download the module. It seems that webmin is no longer in dapper/edgy
[06:00] <awbassett> boogieman: I see, sorry I can't be of more help
[06:00] <k31th> hum vi how do i rename some thing globally ?? i.e i want replace site66 with blah.com
[06:00] <elkbuntop> awbassett, thats because it's not a very secure way to manage a server
[06:00] <wycats> can I add the breezy repos to my sources.list?
[06:00] <wycats> or will that cause problems?
[06:01] <__mikem> wycats why do you want to do that?
[06:01] <awbassett> k31th: inside of a file with vi as your editor?
[06:01] <k31th> yes
[06:01] <Stormx2> Hey everyone
[06:01] <k31th> well any way of changing it is acceptable
[06:01] <awbassett> k31th: %s/oldstring/newstring
[06:01] <Stormx2> Anyone having annoying problems with Azureus? It comes up with dialogs in the bottom right that I can't close!!
[06:01] <Some_Person> wycats: Don't do it. The breezy repos are all screwed up. I use breezy and they're messed up.
[06:01] <awbassett> that will change every instance inside the file of oldstring to newstring
[06:02] <wycats> can I add it for a sec just to get this package?
[06:02] <vinicius_> Stormx2: you must set suns java to work
[06:02] <amarokker> Hi, how do i get a list of all the packages installed on my system
[06:02] <Stormx2> vinicius_: I did
[06:02] <__mikem> awbassett isn't that ed line editer syntax
[06:02] <Stormx2> vinicius_: Wait, how?
[06:02] <awbassett> amarokker: sudo dpkg -l
[06:02] <Stormx2> vinicius_: sudo update-alternatives --config java <-- I did that
[06:02] <awbassett> __mikem: I don't know what you mean by that
[06:02] <vinicius_> Stormx2: the configure-alternatives thingie
[06:02] <__mikem> nvm
[06:03] <vinicius_> hmmm
[06:03] <wycats> I did it... seems to work
[06:03] <vinicius_> are you sure you are using suns java instead of the gcc version?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> sudo update-alternatives --config java  or sudo update-alternatives --all ;)
[06:04] <The_Guardian> how do you check to see if you already have qt3 installed?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> The_Guardian: apt-cache policy libqt3-mt
[06:04] <awbassett> The_Guardian: dpkg -l qt3
[06:05] <gnomefreak> or qt3
[06:05] <The_Guardian> ahh thanks =)
[06:05] <The_Guardian> is libqt3 all I need?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> its libqt3-mt i just checked incase
[06:06] <awbassett> The_Guardian: you may want to do sudo dpkg -l *qt3*
[06:06] <gnomefreak> awbassett: qt3 is not a package
[06:06] <awbassett> gnomefreak: I know, thats why I added the *
[06:06] <gnomefreak> awbassett: libqt3-mt is the main lib for qt if yuou have that you have most of what you need if not all ;)
[06:07] <rpedro> Stormx2: see if you have java-gcj-compat installed , if you do remove it
[06:07] <xBONESstyle> Does anyone know the program that lets you resize your screen, and then posts the specs to permanently change it in xorg?
[06:07] <gnomefreak> i wouldnt remove it :(
[06:07] <__mikem> xBONESstyle its called modify your xorg.conf file
[06:07] <gnomefreak> rpedro: iirc it depnds on too much removing it could be harmful
[06:07] <TheBigToe> er... why does RealPlayer want to open a README file?
[06:08] <rpedro> gnomefreak: not if you have sun's jre installed
[06:08] <xBONESstyle> _mikem, there's another program in Ubuntu that lets you stretch the actual screen, and then posts the specs so you know exactly what to change.
[06:08] <Stormx2> rpedro: Thanks, doing that now
[06:08] <vinicius_> about azureus, i downloaded the azureus version from the official site, the version on the repos doesnt work for me.
[06:08] <__mikem> xBONESstyle, not that I know of
[06:09] <xBONESstyle> anyway, do you know another way for me to know exactly what to change to regain the square inch of my screen that i'm missing?
[06:09] <__mikem> xBONESstyle is it a resolution you are trying to fix, or is the size of the picture not matching the size of the monitor
[06:10] <xBONESstyle> it's an inch of screen space that's not being taken up.
[06:11] <xBONESstyle> you can make the change in xorg, because i've used the program before to figure out what to change... i just can't find it anymore
[06:11] <__mikem> xBONESstyle, that can be remidied by ajusting the picture controls on your monitor itself
[06:11] <Paladine> xBONESstyle, I had issues with my monitors on ubu initially, it was actually waaay oversized
[06:11] <Paladine> I adjusted it with the monitor, then saved the settings using the monitor buttons
[06:11] <Paladine> not had any issues since
[06:11] <david_> Hello, since I updated to Dapper from 5.10 my Ubuntu doesn't shutdown completely. It hangs on "Computer now will halt" message. Is there any workaround?
[06:11] <xBONESstyle> __mikem, the buttons are broken. besides, people here use windows, and they'd be pissed if they had to resize every time they used the computer.
[06:12] <__mikem> well, I don'tknow what else totell you
[06:12] <Paladine> I don't have to resize for windows
[06:12] <vinicius_> does anyone know how to fix the fonts on swiftfox?
[06:12] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu 6.06 keeps crashing for what seems like no reason
[06:12] <Paladine> I saved the setting for ubu and they work in windows too
[06:12] <Tommy2k4> a few times it happened when taking screenshots but not the latest time
[06:12] <Tommy2k4> monitor changes to lots of vertical multicolored lines then after a few seconds it gives the error "31K / 0Hz frequency out of range"
[06:13] <__mikem> Tommy2k4, pastebin your xorg.conf file and send me the link
[06:13] <xBONESstyle> I know there's a program... I was just wondering if anyone could help me find it.
[06:13] <Tommy2k4> !paste
[06:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:13] <rpedro> Stormx2: seems the dialogue thing is a know bug fixed in a new beta
[06:13] <Tommy2k4> i rebuilt xorg.conf today and its still happening
[06:14] <rpedro> Stormx2: get it here : http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[06:14] <david_> Since I updated to Dapper from 5.10 my computer doesn't shutdown completely. It hangs on "Computer now will halt" message. Is there any workaround?
[06:14] <Tommy2k4> __mikem, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16557
[06:14] <Dravidan> is there way to check my login times in ubuntu
[06:14] <Paladine> david, press "enter" I think
[06:14] <__mikem> Tommy2k4, just so you know, that error is usually an indication that your refresh rate is too low in the file, but I will know for sure in a seccond
[06:14] <david_> Paladine: ????????
[06:14] <cwillu> any mature open alternatives to pagemaker?
[06:14] <Tommy2k4> the weird thing is that it happens after i've been booted up for a while
[06:15] <Tommy2k4> not like during boot up
[06:15] <The_Guardian> kde takes a looooooong time to install
[06:15] <__mikem> do you boot dirrectly into an x session
[06:15] <Paladine> david, when i shutdown, I have to press enter
[06:15] <Tommy2k4> afaik
[06:15] <vinicius_> "does anyone know how to fix the fonts on swiftfox?" <- anyone? =\
[06:15] <__mikem> ok, your vertical and horizontal synk look normal
[06:16] <Paladine> the messagetelling you to press enter might be off the bottom of the screen
[06:16] <cwillu> vinicius_: what's wrong with them?
[06:16] <Tommy2k4> __mikem, if it makes any difference (someone suggested this) pressing ctrl alt f6 when the error comes up doesnt take me to a console screen
[06:16] <triplep> anyone know of a syntax hilighting save via SFTP editor?
[06:17] <MarbleheadMan> hi all, i got my winmodem working in ubuntu and am so proud of myself that i thought i'd come here and shout it to the whole ubuntu community!
[06:17] <vinicius_> cwillu: looks weird on formularies, the firefox version that ships with gnome ist just fine
[06:17] <cwillu> vinicius_: gtk build of swiftfox?
[06:17] <TheBigToe> what's the default user/pass for webmin on ubuntu?
[06:17] <garryF> Wow, a winmodem under linus!
[06:17] <vinicius_> cwillu: yes
[06:18] <__mikem> Tommy2k4, do you think you could go into your xorg.conf file and change the vertrefresh to 30-160
[06:18] <boogieman> Hello all (again), i have a network monitoring problem, any volunteers to help me out :D ?
[06:18] <Tommy2k4> sure
[06:18] <garryF> But can you fix my nasty typing boo boos?
[06:18] <TheBigToe> guys, what's the default user/pass for webmin on ubuntu?
[06:18] <cwillu> vinicius_: formularies?
[06:19] <garryF> did ye mean repositories?
[06:19] <Tommy2k4> done __mikem
[06:19] <Tommy2k4> should i ctrl alt backspace
[06:19] <vinicius_> cwillu: erm, web forms (sorry, english is not my mother tongue)
[06:19] <__mikem> YEs, and run it like that, if it happens again, the problem isn't what I thought it was. But that should fix it
[06:19] <TheBigToe> guys, what's the default user/pass for webmin on ubuntu?
[06:20] <garryF> !webmin
[06:20] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:20] <MarbleheadMan> garryF: it took some hacking...ubuntu thinks it's a sound card, and it requires inserting a kernel module, starting a daemon, and running the dialer as root...but i just through those together into a bash script, so now i can double-click to dial up!
[06:20] <Tommy2k4> awkward though because the it doesnt happen straight away, and theres nothing i can do to make it happen
[06:20] <Tommy2k4> it happens when it wants to :(
[06:20] <Tommy2k4> but brb
[06:21] <__mikem> Hey Tommy2k4
[06:21] <__mikem> any luck?
[06:21] <Paladine> hey mike, can you explain why my left monitor has a dead line of pixels in windows but not in linux ;)
[06:21] <Tommy2k4> well its loaded up fine but no different to any other time
[06:21] <garryF> Nice. Might even get to phone someone in 5.1 surround sound.
[06:22] <__mikem> Paladine probably because you don't have proper drivers in windows
[06:22] <Tommy2k4> but if it happens again you can bet i'll be straight back in here complaining :p
[06:22] <Ng> or the drivers have a bug
[06:22] <MarbleheadMan> garryF: haha...ironically, i can't even here the phone dialing, even with modem volume on
[06:22] <TheBigToe> or windows has a bug
[06:22] <TheBigToe> sorry, it IS a bug
[06:22] <TheBigToe> >_>
[06:22] <__mikem> Tommy2k4 if it happens again, try this
[06:22] <garryF> Perhaps a different refresh rate, moved the dead line off screen in linux
[06:22] <__mikem> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:23] <Tommy2k4> i already did that today
[06:23] <TheBigToe> garryF, or the monitor itself
[06:23] <Tommy2k4> after i did that i re-added 1280x1024 though because it didnt auto detect it
[06:23] <TheBigToe> the height/width settings
[06:23] <Tommy2k4> could that be the problem?
[06:23] <Paladine> garry, yeah I have a much higher refresh rate in linux.  In windows it wouldn't go high enough, Ihad a line of dead pixels and after a little while, the monitor would start tow histle
[06:23] <__mikem> What kind of monitor do you have
[06:23] <Paladine> work great in ubu though
[06:23] <TheBigToe> cause my boot screen is stretched
[06:23] <garryF> MarbleheadMan just as long as your phone bill don't get multiplied by 5.1
[06:23] <TheBigToe> but nothing else is
[06:23] <TheBigToe> </random stuff>
[06:23] <Tommy2k4> doesnt it say in my xorg.conf on pastebin?
[06:24] <__mikem> Yes, but I mean how old is it
[06:24] <pekay> hi i have problems mounting a FAT32 partition
[06:24] <Tommy2k4> hmm probably a few years
[06:24] <__mikem> Is it lcd or picture tube
[06:24] <Tommy2k4> crt
[06:24] <MarbleheadMan> garryF: hahaha...luckily, i live close to the isp's location and get unlimited local calling ;)
[06:24] <Tommy2k4> never had any problems till i switched to linux
[06:24] <Paladine> pekay what problems?
[06:25] <garryF> What is interesting is I wonder if playing with his refresh rates in windows might solve the dead line.
[06:25] <__mikem> It may be that the resolution isn't supported, but the problem with that theory is 1 I am assuming you got it to work in windows, and 2 that would prevent you from booting into x at all
[06:25] <Paladine> garry, nope I tried that already
[06:25] <Tommy2k4> exactly
[06:25] <TheBigToe> so, guys, what's the default user/pass for webmin on ubuntu?
[06:25] <Tommy2k4> if i couldnt use this resolution i seriously would go back to windows :(
[06:25] <garryF> tow histle?
[06:26] <Paladine> to whistle
[06:26] <Paladine> a high pitch whistling sound
[06:26] <Paladine> really really annoying
[06:26] <pekay> Paladine: i made a new FAT32 partition in windows to pass some things to Windows, but i got this error in Ubuntu: error: device /dev/hda3 is not removable
[06:26] <The_Guardian> anyone here used the crystal theme?
[06:26] <__mikem> Tommy2k4 I use 1280x1024 all the time
[06:26] <__mikem> Its supported
[06:26] <__mikem> by linux
[06:27] <garryF> Oh. so it would whistle in windows or Linux?
[06:27] <Paladine> only in windows
[06:27] <Tommy2k4> it wasnt in my xorg.conf though till i added it
[06:27] <pekay> Paladine?
[06:27] <Paladine> it is like a new monitor in linux
[06:27] <Paladine> pekay, not sure
[06:27] <TheBigToe> Tommy2k4, it usually isn't
[06:27] <MarbleheadMan> i've had an old, slow processor whistle when under heavy load, but never a monitor
[06:27] <Tommy2k4> when googling i found a lot of people who had to edit their xorg.conf to add resolutions higher than 1024x768
[06:27] <Ng> MarbleheadMan: I have, in certain screenmodes
[06:27] <mindspit> tips linux  windows   swap space fstab pagefile.sys
[06:27] <TheBigToe> talking of things making noises...
[06:28] <mindspit> i want to use my fat 32 partition and especialy the file pagefile.sys as a Windows swap space and ALSO FOR Linux ... i need linux instructions
[06:28] <TheBigToe> on old PC's, when you hear the "gr grggrgrgr" sound, is that the hd or proessor?
[06:28] <MarbleheadMan> Ng: a crt, not an lcd, right?
[06:28] <Ng> mindspit: I don't think you can use a windows swap file for linux swap
[06:28] <Paladine> marble, it is really really high frequency whistle, only just audible and incredibly annoying to the point of causing a headache
[06:28] <TheBigToe> I thought it was the HD but someone else said it was the CPU
[06:28] <Ng> MarbleheadMan: in theory anything electrical can whine under the right circumstances
[06:28] <__mikem> Tommy2k4, Yes, I did to, but it doesn't mean its not supported, as I said I use the higher resolutions all the time, they work fine for me, but I have an lcd screen
[06:28] <Ng> MarbleheadMan: it just means it's producing a very high kHz oscillation
[06:29] <mindspit> yes you can .... as you can use any file for swap .... i have heard it before
[06:29] <Tommy2k4> im not saying its not supported
[06:29] <__mikem> I know
[06:29] <Ng> mindspit: you'd need to re-initialise it for each on each boot
[06:29] <MarbleheadMan> Ng: right -- everything mechanical whistles, we just can't here most of it; whistling is motion that we can here
[06:29] <MarbleheadMan> *hear, doh
[06:29] <Minty> how do I add a program so that it stats at bootup ???
[06:29] <mindspit> i want to use my fat 32 partition and especialy the file pagefile.sys as swap space FOR Linux ...
[06:30] <Ng> Minty: a user program or a system program?
[06:30] <garryF> Hmmm, shrug, sounds like soemthing is wrong alreight. Might try a lower refresh rate just to see what happens. If you can get it off the screen that way too, that might work. Windows doesn't always make sure to only show modes the monitor is able to show without frying.
[06:30] <mindspit> yes that true
[06:30] <mindspit> :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> Minty,  depends on the program. theres a rc.local script for some needs
[06:30] <Flippy209> ic56 you around?
[06:30] <TheBigToe> what's the default user/pass for webmin?
[06:30] <dr_willis> mindspit,  you can make a linux swap file on the fat32 if you want. but using the same  file as windiows.. may not be a good idea.
[06:30] <Paladine> garry, well it using a much lower refresh rate in windows than it is in linux, yet the problem only exists in windows.  An interesting little problem
[06:31] <monkkey> guys can you help  me, i have just mounted my new hdd, but i am recieving access denied when i try and write to it?? any suggestions?? thanks
[06:31] <dr_willis> !webmin
[06:31] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[06:31] <garryF> I'd look up the monitor and find out the refresh rates and make sure windows isn not exceeding that range.
[06:31] <Paladine> monkkey is it ntfs?
[06:31] <TheBigToe> what do I use instead then, dr_willis ?
[06:31] <monkkey> no, its fat 32
[06:31] <dr_willis> I actually like webmin. sad that  ubuntu/debian is deciding  otherwise..
[06:31] <The_Guardian> does ubuntu use gdm also?
[06:31] <The_Guardian> or just kde?
[06:31] <Ng> mindspit: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Swap-Space.html perhaps, although that's geared up for sharing a swap partition I think
[06:31] <dr_willis> TheBigToe,  id say read the webmin docs. and i seemt orecall theres a script ya run that sets the default passwords.
[06:31] <The_Guardian> !gdm
[06:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdm
[06:32] <Ng> The_Guardian: by default, gdm, but you can use kdm or xdm if you want to
[06:32] <garryF> I wonder what they replaced it with.
[06:32] <mindspit> :)
[06:32] <The_Guardian> ah
[06:32] <The_Guardian> trying to figure out a new theme to get
[06:32] <__mikem> The_Guardian, ubuntu uses gnome kubuntu uses kde xubuntu uses xfce
[06:32] <TheBigToe> dr_willis, I've read it and found a change password script, but...
[06:32] <__mikem> anything that uses gnome uses gdm by default
[06:32] <Ng> __mikem: xubuntu uses gdm too
[06:32] <TheBigToe> Script was not run with full path (failed to find /usr/share/webmin/passwd/change-passwd.pl under )
[06:32] <dr_willis> TheBigToe,  to be honest - i set my root user password.. and it uses that by default last time i messed with webmin. :P but thats 'bad karma' according to the ubuntu devs. :)
[06:33] <Tommy2k4> __mikem, it happened yet again
[06:33] <Tommy2k4> thats the 3rd/4th time its happened today
[06:33] <Paladine> garry, yeah I have the frequancy ranges for the monitor, the problem was windows wouldn't let me go any higher than 60KHz, so it wasn't an issue with the frequency being too high, more likely an issue with it being too low
[06:33] <TheBigToe> dr_willis, what username did you enter then?
[06:33] <dr_willis> TheBigToe,  run it with the full path perhaps?   sudo /usr/share/whatever/change-passwd
[06:33] <The_Guardian> ahh I have kde installed also
[06:33] <Paladine> I am not bothered about it, I don't use windows on this box anymore, was just curious as to the cause
[06:33] <TheBigToe> I did
[06:33] <dr_willis> TheBigToe,  root. :P
[06:33] <TheBigToe> ah, :P
[06:33] <dr_willis> TheBigToe,  i seemt orecall a discussion of this on the forums/wiki.
[06:33] <__mikem> Tommy2k4, you got me, that error as I said usually means theres a problem with the refresh rate,
[06:34] <Tommy2k4> damnit
[06:34] <__mikem> IT sounds like it might be a hardware problem
[06:34] <__mikem> I never had that problem before
[06:34] <Paladine> sounds like the monitor has a hardware probem, is it old?
[06:34] <Tommy2k4> a few years
[06:34] <Paladine> it could well be on its way out
[06:34] <garryF> Yeah. I agree Paladine. Did you make sure windows has identified the monitor? Oh, well if windows ins't being used, than I guess it makes a nice coaster.
[06:34] <Tommy2k4> when it happens, the num lock light goes off making me think its an os problem?
[06:34] <mindspit> if i have windows delete pagefile upon shutdown, could i use the same partition for linux? (hopefully this isn't a stupid question)
[06:35] <Fizzeh> is there a default username
[06:35] <Hoxzer> :L
[06:35] <Fizzeh> i wasnt promted to enter one on install
[06:35] <dr_willis> mindspit,  you that short of  drive space?
[06:35] <Hoxzer> I'm still banned :(
[06:35] <__mikem> Hoxzer from which chanel?
[06:35] <Hoxzer> __mikem: from this one :(
[06:35] <mindspit> yes i am!
[06:35] <ackbahr> NoUse, I'm done partitioning. Now I want to install XP in the new blank space; what do I have to do about LILO to be able to set it up again later?
[06:35] <mindspit> :)
[06:35] <Paladine> garry, I couldn't get any specific drivers for the monitor under windows, just used generic monitor.  I have it as generic monitor in ubu too, but I did manage to get the frequency specs fomr the interweb :)
[06:35] <vinicius_> cwillu: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/1818/screenshot14lg.png <- firefox
[06:35] <garryF> Yes, you are stilll banned. We can't see what you type. j/k
[06:36] <TheBigToe> Error - Access denied for 127.0.0.1. The host has been blocked because of too many authentication failures.
[06:36] <TheBigToe> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAargh
[06:36] <vinicius_> cwillu: http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/6694/screenshot5ok.png <- swiftfox
[06:36] <__mikem> Hoxzer How are you in here if you are banned
[06:36] <Jeruvy> Hey!!  dumb question but if I have a rpm on a windows box and I want it on a ubuntu server for installation what is the best way to copy it over
[06:36] <Minty> I would lik enetwork selector to open rather than having to open it eash tim
[06:36] <garryF> He ain't banned. Hehe
[06:36] <__mikem> How do you run rpm on a windows box Jeruvy
[06:36] <Fizzeh> does anyone know the default username for ubuntu; my install didnt ask me for one, and now im stuck
[06:36] <dimitri> hi
[06:36] <Ng> Jeruvy: if you stick an ssh server on the ubuntu box you can use scp with a tool like WinSCP
[06:36] <Tommy2k4> he didnt say run it
[06:37] <Jeruvy> __mikem: dunno.  But I want to stick it on the server
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> he just means its saved on a windows partition
[06:37] <roostishaw> how do i launch firestarter hidden upon login, without the root password? i already followed the FAQ with no success... anyone?
[06:37] <dimitri> can any1 help me configure v4l
[06:37] <Hoxzer> __mikem: :/ I'm using other connection :(
[06:37] <garryF> Omg. I've never heard of a ubuntu not asking you for a user name.
[06:37] <__mikem> :s
[06:37] <jolmash> hello all, could anyboyd help me on configuring VNC in Ubuntu?
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> Jeruvy, copy it over the lan?
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> or use a usb drive?
[06:37] <skavenge> you just need to login asa root and adduser then
[06:37] <Jeruvy> Ng: I have openssh server on it, so I'd just connect via scp and copy it over?  Sounds easy
[06:37] <__mikem> Hoxzer, just talk to one of the ops and plead your case, they should listen
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> yeah
  im also interested in getting that to work
[06:38] <Ng> Fizzeh: there is no default user, the installer shoult have asked you. You could try booting into the recovery mode and running adduser, but you'll need to put the user into a bunch of groups too
[06:38] <Ng> Jeruvy: yep
[06:38] <Paladine> hey garry, here is another puzzle for you.  Firefox does a dns lookup on absolutely every single page I visit, even if I am refreshing a page or going to another page on the same site, slows down browsing considerably, I would have thought it would have a dns cache
[06:38] <roostishaw> how do i launch firestarter hidden upon login, without the root password? i already followed the FAQ with no success... anyone?
[06:38] <kalosaurusrex> i have the same problem..
[06:38] <Fizzeh> how do i do recovery mode?
[06:38] <Ng> Fizzeh: which I think would be: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[06:38] <jolmash> dimitri: I've installed vnc4server, and I can connect to it, but I see only a gray screen
[06:38] <Jeruvy> Thx :)
[06:38] <Ng> Fizzeh: just before ubuntu starts booting it will either display a menu or tell you to press Esc for a menu. it's in that menu
[06:38] <kalosaurusrex> Paladine:  I have the same problem. very annoying.
[06:39] <Paladine> kalo, aye it is indeed
[06:39] <Fizzeh> Ng, thanks, I'll try that
[06:39] <kalosaurusrex> pal, and it seems like it just started doing it.  what version are you using?
[06:39] <garryF> Hmmm, I dunno myself.
[06:39] <Fizzeh> Ng, when in setup would it have prompted for my username, it just had me do a password, and early on it had me do the computer name
[06:39] <Paladine> kalo: 1.5.0.4
[06:39] <kalosaurusrex> pal i'm using 1.5.0.4
[06:39] <Ng> Fizzeh: oh, did you do a server install?
[06:39] <garryF> Yeah, you would think it would have a cache.
[06:39] <kalosaurusrex> anyone else have this problem?
[06:39] <Paladine> it is bloody annoying
[06:40] <skavenge> all you have to do is login as root now and adduser
[06:40] <Fizzeh> Ng, no
[06:40] <kalosaurusrex> agreed :(
[06:40] <garryF> How do you tell if you have the problem?
[06:40] <Paladine> I installed a small dns cache app thinking that would help, but it made no difference in firefox
[06:40] <__mikem> bbl, I have to get ready to go
[06:40] <dimitri> jolmash how do u invoke it
[06:40] <Ng> Fizzeh: very strange, it should have asked for a username right before it asked for a password
[06:40] <Fizzeh> ng, i installed it before and didnt have the problem
[06:40] <Paladine> garry, just type in any url that you know and look at the status bar in the ff window
[06:41] <Paladine> it ads several seconds to the load time on every page I visit
[06:41] <Fizzeh> Ng, recovery mode is loading
[06:41] <garryF> It flies through so fast, I can't read any of it.
[06:42] <jolmash> dimitri: with vncviewer, the IP and a number of screen, ie. 192.168.1.1:0
[06:42] <Fizzeh> ng, so should i type "adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin"?
[06:42] <Paladine> I just refreshed the ubu forum page and it took 17 seconds doing lookups and took a total of 34 seconds to load the page (once it had spent more time looking up other addresses hosted on the same page)
[06:42] <dimitri> jolmash are you trying to vnc a ubuntu box or a windows box
[06:43] <jolmash> dimitri: You need to run "vnc4server :0" in order the screen 0 responds, may be vnc4server :1 :2 :2
[06:43] <jolmash> VNC from windows to Ubuntu
[06:43] <Ng> Fizzeh: no, you'll need to use the usermod tool to add your user to those groups, e.g. usermod -g username group1,group2,group3,etc username
[06:43] <Minty> gatekeeper Hi again Have looked at the site http://www.ehomeupgrade.com do I need to update all my sorces list or is it just # PLF - Collection of Non-Free Proprietary Codecs & Applications
[06:43] <patrick_king> im having trouble with my wifi, i have installed dapper and my pcmcia card work and connects to the net but only seems to be able to download at less than 14kb/s but with that card in windows i can get 70bk/s
[06:43] <jolmash> dimitri: from Windows to ubuntu
[06:43] <Minty> so that I can get totem to wrok with dvd
[06:43] <Fizzeh> Ng, just type group1, or add it to every one of those groups
[06:44] <dimitri> jolmash i had that working a while ago
[06:44] <Fizzeh> Ng, is there a way to view all users
[06:44] <Ng> Fizzeh: replace "username" with the username you set up and "group1,group2,group3" with the "adm,dialout,cdrom," etc groups
[06:44] <dimitri> but i formated windows off
[06:44] <Paladine> kalo, I am glad I am not the only person having this issue, I was beginning to think I had been a complete idiot and failed to do something
[06:44] <jolmash> dimitri: how? I see only a grey screen, not my xfce desktop
[06:44] <dimitri> i want to vnc from ubuntu to other windows pc's on the network
[06:44] <Fizzeh> Ng, because I think there must be one user beside root, because a passowrd got asinged
[06:44] <kristian> famous, you here?
[06:44] <yeft> can some one type me up a command real quick that will recursively delete a certain filetype?
[06:45] <garryF> I'd mark ff for reinstall and see if that fixes it.
[06:45] <Ng> Fizzeh: possibly. "cat /etc/passwd" and look at the end
[06:45] <Paladine> dimitri, I just installed tightvnc ontot he windows boxes, then used the standard remote desktop client that comes with gnome2
[06:45] <Tone> Minty  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[06:45] <dimitri> when it asks you VNC server what do u type
[06:45] <neighborlee> hi...I am trying to run app that is unable to find ( 32 bit app in  64 bit dapper) the 32 bit libSDL it needs, as the one in /usr/lib32 turnsout to be 64 bit!.. is this fixable other than just compiling SDL myself with -m32 option ? ;)
[06:45] <Tone> you need totem-xine too
[06:45] <roostishaw> how do i launch firestarter hidden upon login, without the root password? i already followed the FAQ with no success... anyone?
[06:45] <Ng> yeft: how do you want to identify the certain filetype? filename extension?
[06:45] <NickGarvey> yeft:  rm -r *.somehing I would think
[06:45] <patrick_king> wat coould it be
[06:45] <NickGarvey> yeft: but be careful
[06:46] <kristian> !mp3
[06:46] <Minty> Tone dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[06:46] <Laney> np: Dream Theater - The Spirit Carries On
[06:46] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:46] <Paladine> neighbour, is it a deb package you rying to install? cos if you use the --force-architecture args it tends to work for most things I have tried
[06:46] <Tone> mint use sudo
[06:46] <Fizzeh> Ng, how do I just create a user
[06:46] <yeft> nickgarvey: thanks , its to delete all the m4a and mp4's off my ipod
[06:46] <dimitri> Paladine let me try that :< what a mission
[06:46] <Ng> Fizzeh: adduser username
[06:46] <patrick_king> !root
[06:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:46] <yeft> nickgarvey: witll that work in nested folders?
[06:47] <Paladine> I had a nightmare trying to get cedega to work, but as soon as I used --force-architecture it installed with no issues
[06:47] <Ng> yeft: find /path/to/ipod -name *.m4a -exec rm \{\} \;
[06:47] <NickGarvey> yeft: not sure, try around with a test folder, I havenever done that
[06:47] <stjepan> roostishaw, what did you try to do?
[06:47] <dimitri> Paladine what about realnvc? could that do the same thing?
[06:48] <stjepan> roostishaw, open /etc/sudoers as root
[06:48] <NickGarvey> yeft: after reading the man file I don't think that will work
[06:48] <yeft> Ng:thanks!
[06:48] <patrick_king> !root
[06:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:48] <Paladine> dimitri you mean realvnc?
[06:48] <NickGarvey> oh yes!
[06:48] <stjepan> roostishaw, add this line:
[06:48] <NickGarvey> I forget find has that power
[06:48] <patrick_king> im having trouble with my wifi,my pcmcia card works and connects to the net but only seems to be able to download at less than 14kb/s but with that card in windows i can get 70bk/s
[06:48] <stjepan> roostishaw, username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/firestarter
[06:48] <stjepan> roostishaw, do you use GNOME or KDE?
[06:48] <patrick_king> is this normal
[06:48] <stjepan> roostishaw, hey, you there?
[06:49] <Ng> stjepan: one should never edit /etc/sudoers directly
[06:49] <Ng> stjepan: there is a tool visudo for doing that
[06:49] <dimitri> Paladine yeah sorry
[06:49] <dimitri> but would that work
[06:49] <Paladine> I haven't tried realvnc, but I have installed several .deb using the --force-architecture args
[06:49] <stjepan> Ng, it is ok to edit it with nano or gedit too
[06:49] <garryF> !dns
[06:49] <Ng> stjepan: no
[06:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about dns
[06:49] <stjepan> Ng, why? what can happen?
[06:49] <Ng> stjepan: because if you make even the tiniest of syntax errors, sudo will completely fail to work anymore
[06:49] <Fizzeh> Ng, thanks, I think it worked
[06:49] <vinicius_> !swiftfox
[06:49] <Ng> stjepan: visudo validates the file after you edit it
[06:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about swiftfox
[06:49] <Fizzeh> Ng, confirmation, it worked!  you rock!
[06:50] <dr_willis> ive heard bad things about swiftfox. :)
[06:50] <Ng> Fizzeh: cool :)
[06:50] <AlienX> how do i set my default editor to vi? I'm editing crontab and nano is default but it'd rather it wasn't
[06:50] <kristian> !ntfs
[06:50] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:50] <stjepan> Ng, if you're careful, you can edit it with nano too
[06:50] <patrick_king> !tuxsex
[06:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about tuxsex
[06:50] <Ng> AlienX: put "export EDITOR=vim" at the bottom of .bash_profile in your home directory
[06:50] <stjepan> Ng, I always edit it with nano and I never had any problems with it
[06:50] <AlienX> Ng, thank you
[06:50] <vinicius_> dr_willis: hmm, like what? seems faster than the normal build to me
[06:50] <purdev> I'm having trouble installing the JRE plugin for firefox 1.5.0.2 - I have tried many FAQ's and even open-source JREs, but no luck yet
[06:50] <roostishaw> stjepan, yes, sorry.
[06:50] <Ng> stjepan: still, in this kind of channel it's best to recommend people do things the Right way
[06:50] <stjepan> roostishaw, GNOME or KDE?
[06:51] <roostishaw> stjepan, gnome
[06:51] <dr_willis> vinicius_,  ive heard it hammers the servers and a lot of web hosting pwoples dont like it.
[06:51] <stjepan> Ng, unfortunately, _many_ people don't know how to use vi/vim
[06:51] <Minty> Tone you are the man :)
[06:51] <dr_willis> vinicius_,  but its all just things ive 'heard/read' on the msg boards
[06:51] <stjepan> roostishaw, you edited /etc/sudoers?
[06:51] <Tone> :)
[06:51] <roostishaw> stjepan, yes. i followed that guide in the faq
[06:51] <Ng> stjepan: visudo can be made to respect $EDITOR, so it can be used with nano or whatever
[06:51] <vinicius_> dr_willis: no, you are talking about the fasterfox extension i think
[06:51] <yeft> Ng: worked perfect!! thanks so much
[06:52] <stjepan> roostishaw, then open System>Preferences>Sessions
[06:52] <Tone> Minty make sure you enable dma
[06:52] <roostishaw> stjepan, ok
[06:52] <Minty> tone tell me more please
[06:52] <stjepan> roostishaw, go to the "Startup Programs" tab
[06:52] <roostishaw> ok
[06:52] <skavenge> are synaptic errors logged somewhere?
[06:52] <stjepan> roostishaw, click Add and type this: sudo firestarter
[06:52] <roostishaw> sudo firestarter --sm-disable ?
[06:52] <stjepan> yes, it's ok
[06:52] <roostishaw> oh, ok.. ill try that
[06:53] <stjepan> then you click OK and then Close
[06:53] <ajayc> stjepan, !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:53] <Tone> Minty: sudo hdparm -d 1 /dev/[your cdrom device probably hdc] 
[06:53] <stjepan> ajayc, howdy mate
[06:53] <roostishaw> stjepan, but how do i get it to start minimized?
[06:53] <Tone> will make dvd playback silky smooth
[06:53] <stjepan> roostishaw, sudo apt-get install wmctrl
[06:53] <Inzoy> hello
[06:53] <finalbeta> I installed xgl/compiz, and then removed it again, how can I remove it from the loging widnows (choose sessions)
[06:53] <roostishaw> stjepan, ok...
[06:54] <stjepan> roostishaw, wmctrl can help you to run it minimized
[06:54] <dr_willis> vinicius_,  perhaps. :P its hard to  objetively benchmark  that stuff.
[06:54] <kristian> !avi
[06:54] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:54] <roostishaw> stjepan, how do i use it?
[06:54] <stjepan> roostishaw, read the manual page: man wmctrl
[06:54] <Tone> Minty: that setting doesnt stick around after rebooting you'll need to type it in again when you want to watch a dvd
[06:54] <roostishaw> and use a special argument in the startup line?
[06:54] <Minty> Okay but what does it do ??
[06:55] <Ng> Tone: or create an entry for it in /etc/hdparm.conf :)
[06:55] <kalosaurusrex> pal: i installed the fasterfox ff extension, and that seems to help..
[06:55] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[06:55] <roostishaw> stjepan, so what is the command i add to startup?
[06:55] <garryF> Check this out for your dns ff resolution issues .... http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/blog/tw001_tw/2006-01-16/slow_DNS_resolution_in_mozilla_firefox
[06:56] <Tone> Ng: yer you can but I get some write errors with it when burning so normaly have it off
[06:56] <stjepan> roostishaw, sudo firestarter && wmctrl blah blah I don't know how to minimize a window so read the manual
[06:56] <roostishaw> stjepan, hmm... but i dont see it in there
[06:56] <vinicius_> !firefox
[06:56] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[06:57] <kalosaurusrex> !aliens
[06:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about aliens
[06:58] <stjepan> roostishaw, what you don't see?
[06:58] <roostishaw> stjepan, an argument to minimize a window
[06:58] <kalosaurusrex> grr neither the ipv6 or fasterfox has helped.
[06:58] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !alien
[06:58] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:58] <stjepan> I don't know really, the manual can help you
[06:59] <compengi> what does linux
[07:00] <roostishaw> does anyone know the wmctrl command to minimize a window?
[07:00] <compengi> what is linux's language
[07:00] <ElephantHunter> compengi: linux mostly uses c/c++, but there are many other languages available
[07:00] <vinicius_> kalosaurusrex: youre talking about "network.dns.disableIPv6"
[07:00] <kalosaurusrex> yes.  i made t true.
[07:00] <kalosaurusrex> t=it
[07:01] <compengi> in terminal what language is it
[07:01] <Tone> compengi, linux is written in C with some ASM
[07:01] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[07:01] <roostishaw> does anyone know the wmctrl command to minimize a window?
[07:01] <Tone> compengi, you meen computer language?
[07:01] <garryF> Yeah, I just found mine and its set to false to disabling of IP6. I cold pastebin my config if it might help?
[07:01] <ElephantHunter> compengi: The terminal language is called shell scripting language
[07:01] <compengi> lol
[07:01] <compengi> sure
[07:01] <Tone> compengi, if so its bash
[07:01] <garryF> er ipv6
[07:02] <Paladine> kalo, I just posted on the ff issue,if you wanna add your experience too ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&f=134 )
[07:02] <AlienX> Ng, export EDITOR=vim did not work
[07:02] <kalosaurusrex> pal: going now
[07:02] <Tone> has anyone ever setup postfix?
[07:03] <purdev> can someone help me getting the jre plugin working with firefox 1.5.0.2?
[07:03] <Paladine> postfix rocks
[07:03] <Minty> same ish question as earlier , how do i get Gnaim to startup when I boot ?
[07:03] <vinicius_> garryF: i heard that disabling ipv6 on firefox could increase the speed
[07:03] <Tone> Paladine, true but how do you get it working?
[07:03] <Paladine> I haven't set it up in ubu yet but I have in suse and freebsd (although it was a long time ago)
[07:03] <vinicius_> about:config > double click "network.dns.disableIPv6"
[07:04] <Paladine> Tone, what you mean, what issues you having with it?
[07:04] <Tone> PacketScan, I did apt-get and dpk-reconfig etc - I expected it to just work with my corrent accounts like asimpson etc
[07:04] <Tone> Paladine, sorry
[07:04] <PacketScan> Tone, tisa ok m8 :d
[07:04] <Tone> Paladine, I am using openldap and I think  this is the problem
[07:05] <caepc> how hard is it to install the source for the currently running kernel
[07:05] <garryF> vinicius_ Yep, I posted about it. Mine works fine with the ipv6 enabled. Paladine and kalosaurusrex are having issues where their firefox is resolving the dns every time instead of using the dns cache.
[07:05] <david_> Is there any program to create zips or rars in ubuntu?
[07:05] <sheldonc> how the hell long is that conference going for
[07:05] <garryF> gzip
[07:05] <Kibou> zip and rar
[07:05] <Paladine> Tone, sorry mate I have never used ldap, but I will be installing postfix on this system in the near future for backup MX I will let you know if I have any issues
[07:06] <A[D] minS> how i can change writen languge from english to arabic from fluxbox
[07:06] <Tone> Paladine, I've never set it up before so I dont know what to expect... Does it just start collecting mail for users on the local domain?
[07:06] <A[D] minS> i can do it from gnome by taskbar
[07:06] <vinicius_> Paladine abd kalosaurus,  maybe manually adding an entry to especify the number of entries on the dns cache could help...
[07:07] <A[D] minS> but here how i can do it?
[07:07] <vinicius_> let me see...
[07:07] <kalosaurusrex> vin: where do I do that?
[07:07] <Paladine> Tone, postfix is an smtp daemon
[07:07] <Paladine> you trying to collect or send mail?
[07:07] <kalosaurusrex> pal: what sort of 64 box are you on anyway? dell, hp, etc? or did you put it together?
[07:08] <Paladine> kalo, self build
[07:08] <Paladine> 3700+ San Diego
[07:08] <kalosaurusrex> pal, that's cool. just curious.  i'm also on a 64 bit box.
[07:08] <Paladine> ASUS A8N Delux SLI
[07:08] <Administrator_> its an MTA
[07:08] <Tone> Paladine, send
[07:08] <yggdrasil> is there anything for ubuntu that can convert wma to mp3 in ubuntu?
[07:09] <Paladine> Tone, not sure how ubu sets it up as a package install, I have always added the users manually
[07:09] <Paladine> I use mutiple virtual domains with postfix too
[07:09] <cyberix> yggdrasil: I wonder, if loseless convertion from wma to mp3 is even possible.
[07:09] <Tone> Paladine, Thanks I'll look into that as the source of the problem then
[07:09] <vinicius_> about:config > create a new integer as: "network.dnsCacheEntries", default should be 20, but its optional
[07:09] <Stormx2> RIP GOD DAMN YOU! :P
[07:10] <Paladine> thanks vin, I will give that a try
[07:10] <vinicius_> ok
[07:10] <jrib> yggdrasil: maybe mencoder
[07:10] <cyberix> yggdrasil: Not sure anyway.
[07:10] <yggdrasil> hmmm...
[07:10] <Tri0sis> Heyas
[07:10] <yggdrasil> i dont care if it loses a bit
[07:10] <yggdrasil> just annoying i have this one cd i really like.
[07:11] <yggdrasil> and i ripped it to wma without thinking aobut it.
[07:11] <A[D] minS> !XkbLayout
[07:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about XkbLayout
[07:11] <A[D] minS> !Layout
[07:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about Layout
[07:11] <yggdrasil> figured there would be like a somthing like mp32ogg.
[07:11] <Stormx2> I can't get this CD to rip. I have two cd rom drives.... Num 0 Tries and fails... Num 1 doesn't do anything when I put the CD in :(
[07:11] <Paladine> hey vin, how do you delete and entry in config, I am a moron and set it up as a string instead of integer hehe
[07:12] <Minty> anyon know a gnome interfaced ISQL program not a terminal one ??
[07:13] <Don_Cabron> does anyone work with cellphones here?
[07:13] <Hoxzer> P?
[07:13] <yggdrasil> haha
[07:13] <Don_Cabron> I am trying to make ubuntu work with the programs but its giving me a had ache
[07:13] <vinicius_> Paladine: you need to edit user.js i think, but beware with the other entries...
[07:13] <Paladine> k
[07:14] <finalbeta> I installed xgl/compiz, and then removed it again, how can I remove it from the loging widnows (choose sessions)
[07:14] <kalosaurusrex> vin, I can't find the dns cache entry..
[07:14] <spades> finalbeta check /usr/share/xsessions?
[07:15] <Tommy2k4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080 can anyone help me solve this problem
[07:15] <vinicius_> Paladine: sorry, its prefs.js, not user.js
[07:15] <Paladine> where is it located vin?
[07:15] <vinicius_> kalosaurusrex: you need to create a new entry
[07:15] <vinicius_> Paladine: on your profile folder
[07:16] <roostishaw> how do i have a program launch minimized at login?
[07:16] <kalosaurusrex> vin ah gotcha.
[07:17] <adaran> is there any fakeroot/chroot howto for installing third-party packages with b0rked installers?
[07:18] <vinicius_> Paladine: make sure Firefox is not running when you clear that entry
[07:18] <david_> How in hell can I create a zip (or similar) file containing various files in Ubuntu?
[07:18] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[07:18] <roostishaw> how do i have a program launch minimized at login?
[07:18] <jolmash> could anybody help me on installing php5 as CGI and php as module in Apache2?
[07:19] <skavenge> david_ ; install rar
[07:19] <kalosaurusrex> pal: ehrm you mind doing vin's idea, and let me know if it works, and if so how to add the key , etc?
[07:19] <Paladine> well I couldn't find the line in prefs.js just checking back in ff about:config now
[07:20] <Minty> how does one install rar ??
[07:20] <rpedro> david_: select files >> right click >> create archive
[07:20] <skavenge> run synaptic and search for rar
[07:21] <rpedro> david_: no need to install rar
[07:21] <david_> rpedro: excellent!!! thanks a lot
[07:21] <vinicius_> Paladine: if you have more than one profile (i have 6 :)), you need to edit the one that you were using when you created that entry
[07:21] <rpedro> david_: yvw ;-)
[07:22] <caepc> rpedro, language
[07:22] <rpedro> caepc what?
[07:23] <wamty> my eth0 is up, but it's not getting an ip from the dhcp server
[07:23] <Paladine> k that seems to have worked
[07:23] <wamty> and I can see it in lspci
[07:23] <Paladine> thanks vin
[07:23] <roostishaw> how do i have a program launch minimized at login?
[07:23] <Paladine> Iwill update my forum post now with the solution
[07:23] <rpedro> caepc: what did I say??
[07:23] <vinicius_> Paladine: worked?
[07:23] <caepc> rpedro, i dont know what you said, it wasnt english
[07:23] <Paladine> yup
[07:23] <rpedro> caepc: what isn't english? dont think so
[07:24] <vinicius_> nice =)
[07:24] <caepc> lol
[07:24] <rpedro> caepc: yvw = you're very welcome
[07:24] <wamty> Anyone?
[07:24] <runge> hi. does ubuntu have any ftp-client that handles ssl?
[07:24] <runge> I run dapper
[07:24] <caepc> wamty, what ip is it getting?
[07:24] <wamty> iface eth0 dhcp ?
[07:24] <wamty> or was it iface eth0 inet dhcp?
[07:25] <finalbeta> Can xen boot up windows yet? or shouldn't I boter searching
[07:25] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys, My ubuntu boots up. all the way until it shows the loggin screen, then it just blinks and turns to a black screen where i can see the mouse cross cursor.  I cant use ALT+ F7-F9 to nore can I use F1-F4. I have run dkbg-reconfigure. but that doesnt help./ What can I do to find out about the problem?
[07:25] <wamty> in edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:25] <kalosaurusrex> ack, what happens if you sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart?
[07:26] <caepc> wamty, can't you use the System -> Administration -> Networks?
[07:26] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: you are able to login at the login screen?
[07:26] <caepc> kalosaurusrex, it kills all x sessions
[07:26] <wastrel> wh00t
[07:26] <niki> when using the app 'top', you can hit 'k' to kill, or 'r' to renice a process.....what does renice mean?
[07:26] <dhendrix> Hello everyone. I'm sort of new to debian/ubuntu and was wondering if anyone can help me figure out what package pwd.py belongs to. The package is usually found in /usr/lib/python2.2 (Or whatever version of python is being used).
[07:26] <caepc> niki, change priority
[07:27] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: you are still able to switch to another vt with ctrl-alt-Fkey
[07:27] <niki> caepc, what would changing a process' priorty do?
[07:27] <caepc> make it nicer to the other processes
[07:27] <Paladine> vin, added the solution to my post and credited you for it :)
[07:27] <var> yay@kubuntu
[07:27] <wamty> caepc: I'm not using X
[07:27] <niki> caepc, what do you mean, nicer?
[07:28] <rpedro> niki: the higher the value, the lower the priority
[07:28] <var> niki: I just dropped in, but I would assume he's talking about manners, the golden rule and such.
[07:28] <MarcN> niki:  let some other process spend time with the CPU.
[07:28] <Ackeubu_> rpedro, no it blinked before i could logg in. and no i cant use ctrl Alt Fn to switch. two days ago. it did the same for the default vt and i could swithc vt and loggin. now i cant switch neither
[07:28] <Paladine> a very big thanks, it has been an uber pain in my butt for 2 weeks now
[07:28] <Paladine> it seriously slows down browsing
[07:28] <compengi> does someone knows any voice chatting program for linux?
[07:28] <niki> MarcN, so if i had a problem with a programming running slower than it normall does, i can increas its priority to speed it up a bit?
[07:28] <caepc> compengi, skype
[07:28] <weihello> skepe
[07:29] <caepc> skepe
[07:29] <caepc> niki, no
[07:29] <MarcN> niki:  only if it is cpu bound.
[07:29] <rpedro> compengi: there also openwengo, or ekiga
[07:29] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: what gfx card do you have
[07:29] <vinicius_> Paladine: thanks! it was kinda "shoot in the dark" tip, but im glad it worked =)
[07:29] <niki> MarcN, what do you mean by CPU bound?
[07:29] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: have you installed binary drivers for it?
[07:29] <Paladine> like a dream man
[07:30] <Ackeubu_> rpedro, I have ATI mobility radeon X1400
[07:30] <Paladine> browsing is flying now
[07:30] <caepc> Paladine, a dream man?
[07:30] <Paladine> less than 2 seconds to refresh the ubu forum
[07:30] <compengi> rpedro, does the other user should use the same prog?
[07:30] <jolmash> hello, I've followd the the tutorial in http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4, but It doesn't works for me, what can I do? I need php5 as CGI because I already have php4 as module
[07:30] <wobster> Can I install Ubuntu dapper with a breezy install cd? Like changing the dist during installation?
[07:31] <Paladine> just uninstall the phop4 module and use php5 (which is backwards compatable with php4)
[07:31] <Ackeubu_> rpedro I installed some drivers that was buildt for rpm. I did alien to make deb of them and then i installed it worked.
[07:31] <rpedro> compengi: with skype, yes, the other two are compatible with other programs for other OSes
[07:31] <Ackeubu_> rpedro at least they worked for a while. the drivers where from ATIs home page.
[07:31] <kalosaurusrex> is there a wiki someplace for creating deb packages from tar ball files?
[07:31] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: maybe that wasn't such a good idea (using alien)
[07:32] <Ackeubu_> rpedro they dont have any drivers besides those. but yeah i can try to roll them back i think. >0 i got the controller installed properly and everything so i was pretty happy with it.
[07:32] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: my best bet is start system in single user mode , and uninstall the package and run again 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[07:32] <weihello> !emacs
[07:32] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:33] <Paladine> anyone else using bluefish for an editor?
[07:33] <kalosaurusrex> pal:  thanks for working that out.
[07:33] <Paladine> it is very sweet
[07:33] <Paladine> kalo, thank vin, he is the one who came up with the solution :)
[07:33] <kalosaurusrex> i use nvu or scream.
[07:33] <kalosaurusrex> thanks vin!
[07:34] <Ackeubu_> rpedro im looged in as root, so now i cant find the synaptic package handler apps..
[07:34] <kalosaurusrex> well or kate.  usually kate  lol
[07:34] <wamty> how can I turn off iptables for now?
[07:34] <vinicius_> kalosaurusrex: youre welcome =)
[07:34] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: use aptitude
[07:34] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: or apt-get remove <package name>
[07:34] <Paladine> vin, you know how to increase the amount of time the cache lasts for too?
[07:35] <Paladine> it goes back to looking up the dns again if you don't refresh the page for a few minutes
[07:35] <d2812> with the dapper server install, you can have it set up Apache et al for you. Is there anyway get dapper to set them up for you on a running desktop install?
[07:35] <vinicius_> Paladine: hmm, no idea...
[07:35] <Sgeo> !flash
[07:35] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:36] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: I think there is an howto on wiki.ubuntu.com for ati mobility gfx cards, you can follow it, after you revert xorg to default
[07:36] <Paladine> I will have to have a good root through the config settings on mozilla's site see if there is a cache timer of some form
[07:37] <kalosaurusrex> pal: http://www.tweakguides.com/Firefox_9.html
[07:37] <Ackeubu_> rpdero yesterday i installed some ir utils. tryied to get my ir to work. that could not have affected the system?
[07:37] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: i mean, after you get an working xorg.conf
[07:37] <kalosaurusrex> pal: thinking network.dnsCacheExpiration may be it?
[07:38] <xenex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846 -- Someone please help me get my X back.
[07:38] <Ackeubu_> rpedro, huum, the xorg.conf did work two days ago, then it just quite yesterday, without changes in the xorg.conf...
[07:38] <Fizzeh> Does anyone know an easy way to boot ubuntu and vista at the same time
[07:38] <Paladine> kalo cheers, use network.dnsCacheExpiration
[07:38] <wiking> hei! i need help about Linux. Enybody can help me?
[07:39] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[07:39] <kalosaurusrex> pal: woot!
[07:40] <steveire> wiking: What is your quest?
[07:40] <rpedro> Ackeubu_: some kernel update may have done it. you would have to recompile the kernel module for the gfx driver, thing is I don't think using alien to install such important packages is a good idea
[07:40] <Paladine> I just added that with a value of 600 (I presume 600 = 10 minutes)
[07:40] <kalosaurusrex> i did that same lol
[07:40] <christopher> anyone running a wireless router through usb and ndiswrapper? i'm having troubles setting up my netgear wpn111
[07:40] <Ackeubu_> rpedro how would I reinstall the kernelmodule for the gfx driver?
[07:41] <Paladine> yeah the default is only 60 seconds
[07:41] <wiking> i am linux Ubuntu user less than 10 hour and i want to know, how i can log in root & install something
[07:41] <Paladine> sudo
[07:41] <Fizzeh> wiking: use terminal and do sudo and then the command
[07:42] <wiking> root terminal?
[07:42] <PacketScan> wiking, "sudo passwd root"   change the root password..   then you can "su -" to your hearts content.
[07:42] <vinicius_> kalosaurusrex: thanks, bookmarked the link, i dont have any issues with dns, but if/when it occurs, i know hot to *fully* fix it now
[07:42] <steveire> that's not what wiking wants.
[07:42] <steveire> sudo apt-get install something
[07:42] <steveire> I think
[07:42] <kalosaurusrex> :)
[07:43] <Fizzeh> Does anyone know an easy way to boot ubuntu and vista at the same time
[07:43] <steveire> Not a great idea to be logging in as root all the time
[07:43] <vinicius_> well, see ya folks
[07:43] <Paladine> kalo, browsing now works properly :)
[07:43] <kalosaurusrex> later vin
[07:43] <steveire> Fizzeh: What does at the same time mean? You don't mean a choice at boot?
[07:43] <PacketScan> steveire, says u :d
[07:43] <Paladine> later vin and thanks again
[07:43] <kalosaurusrex> pal, mine is better too.  thanks!!
[07:43] <rpedro> rpedro: I don't know, if you followed some howto , you should consult it again to see what to do, tho I were you I would revert to default xorg configuration by running the command I gave, and then follow the howto at ubuntu wiki, if you do this it would be easier for someone to help you here
[07:44] <xenex> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846 -- Someone please help me get my X back.
[07:44] <wiking> ok i am opening the teminal..
[07:44] <steveire> Dun dun Dun dun Dun dun ...
[07:44] <Paladine> kalo, now I just need to fix my 6 channel sound issues :)
[07:44] <Fizzeh> steviere: no, i mean a dual boot, so like a can press a button and switch between the two, it already gives me the option on boot (if im lucky)
[07:44] <E0x> hello
[07:45] <wiking> what's now?
[07:45] <E0x> i have a cd of ubuntu live/install in the same
[07:45] <steveire> what do you want to install wiking
[07:45] <steveire> ?
[07:45] <kalosaurusrex> pal, haha good luck with that one!
[07:45] <PacketScan> "sudo apt-get install <package>"
[07:45] <steveire> Fizzeh: I didn't know it was possible. I might have seen a thread on the forums about it though
[07:45] <wiking> skype - i have file on my desktop
[07:45] <E0x> but i dont want boot up to the live session and click to the install icon , i want started the install directly
[07:45] <E0x> i can do that ?
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Fizzeh: Good luck with that one
[07:46] <Fizzeh> steveire: Ive seen it done with mac/windows on a macbook pro
[07:46] <wiking> skype-1.2.0.18-suse.i586.rpm
[07:46] <xenex> Can someone please help me get my xorg back? I need to change the configuration back for it to work and I don't know how.
[07:46] <xenex> I changed nv to nvidia because it said to do that but now it won't work.
[07:46] <Paladine> xenex did you backup your xorg.conf?
[07:46] <kalosaurusrex> xen, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:46] <apokryphos> xenex: did you install the nvidia drivers properly?
[07:46] <xenex> I'm on a LiveCD, is that fine kalosaurusrex?
[07:46] <Paladine> xenex, type sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:47] <Paladine> you might wantto delete the old xorg.conf first
[07:47] <kalosaurusrex> xen not sure on that one..
[07:47] <Fizzeh> Does anybody know how to use synergy?
[07:47] <steveire> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free <<< wiking: If you add that to your souces.list, you can apt-get install skype
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> EOX Why are you against running live to do your install.  Running live first helps insure hardware will work with Ubuntu
[07:47] <jummbob> Hii... when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a I get the message: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5563 package `ubuntu-standard':
[07:47] <jummbob> `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[07:48] <wiking> thnx, i will try
[07:48] <Mewshi> you know how ubuntu has the disk utility?  Is there something that does that with fstab?
[07:48] <patrick_king> how do i install ndiswrapper
[07:48] <skavenge> the package is called ndis-utils or ndiswrapper-utils
[07:48] <steveire> I find skype on linux to be crap however.
[07:49] <apokryphos> d2812: /msg ubotu apache
[07:49] <steveire> Use windows if you can. The linux version of skype is way behind and very buggy
[07:49] <xenex> Paladine: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:49] <xenex> Paladine: sudo nvidia-xconfig doesn't work
[07:49] <ardchoille> Anyone here good with bash scripting? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1182656
[07:49] <dhendrix> steveire:  Really? I've found it to be ok, actually, though I don't use it that extensively.
[07:49] <Paladine> xenex, you have installed the latest nvidia drivers right?
[07:50] <xenex> Paladine: I believe so, I used Automatix. But the thing is, I'm currently on the LiveCD so...
[07:50] <steveire> Might be just me then, but I've read similar experiences from others
[07:50] <jummbob> Hii... when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a I get the message: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5563 package `ubuntu-standard':
[07:50] <jummbob> `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[07:50] <Paladine> hmm not sure if livecd comes with it
[07:51] <Paladine> I just use nvidia-xconfig on my system and it backs up the old xorg.conf and writes a new one
[07:51] <wiking> how i can log as superuser?
[07:51] <apokryphos> wiking: login?
[07:51] <wiking> sorry - i am stupid :(
[07:51] <ardchoille> wiking: you don't, it is a bad thing to do. Use sudo instead.
[07:51] <apokryphos> wiking: /msg ubotu root
[07:51] <Paladine> xenex, you trying to enable glx or something?
[07:51] <heman> what's the ubuntu repos everyone talks about?
[07:51] <yallaman> what console do i need..if i dont want menu/window border showing?
[07:52] <skavenge> !repository
[07:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:52] <steveire> wiking: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:54] <roostishaw> how do i have a program launch minimized at login?
[07:54] <Paladine> oooo food time
[07:54] <Paladine> bbiab
[07:54] <steveire> Is there some way to make apollon search for numbers?
[07:55] <cryptic> hi guys
[07:55] <cryptic> just a heads up im new to ubuntu and linux =D
[07:55] <harisund> Could somebody quickly tell me what the EL in a kernel name is (output of "uname -a")
[07:56] <PacketScan> EL  enterprise linux?
[07:56] <harisund> PacketScan oh is that it?
[07:56] <criptic> hmm
[07:56] <criptic> ok
[07:56] <PacketScan> usually.
[07:57] <criptic> guess im new to X-chat aswell :(
[07:57] <harisund> PacketScan oh ok :) thanks ..
[07:57] <steveire> criptic: you'll pick it up quite fast or give up.
[07:57] <criptic> lol
[07:57] <criptic> this is the third time im trying linux
[07:57] <criptic> even tho i didnt know what i was doing im still comming back
[07:57] <PacketScan> if your using the latest ubuntu you'd make the right choice.
[07:58] <criptic> so i guess things look good then =)
[07:58] <criptic> im waiting for the latest one :(
[07:58] <criptic> i still got hoary =D
[07:58] <wiking> where can find full list with theses commands?
[07:58] <Moodles> !sudo
[07:58] <BCK14> criptic: ubuntu 6.06 is a great distro
[07:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:58] <BCK14> ive tried many
[07:58] <criptic> yea BCK14 i have tried alot as well
[07:58] <udo> !apt-get
[07:58] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[07:59] <jummbob> Hii... when I type sudo dpkg --configure -a I get the message: dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5563 package `ubuntu-standard':
[07:59] <jummbob> `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[07:59] <jummbob> can anyone help?
[07:59] <jummbob> I dont wanna have to go back to windows
[07:59] <BCK14> criptic: this is the only one i found with nice gui and speedy operation
[07:59] <udo> !synaptic
[07:59] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[07:59] <yallaman> dosent seem that gnome terminal has the option tho remove borders..ill try to find another one
[07:59] <criptic> yea BCK14  this is the second time im comming back to it aswell
[07:59] <steveire> wiking: http://www.linuxcommand.org/
[08:00] <BCK14> cool this is my first ubuntu install
[08:00] <kalosaurusrex> !checkinstall
[08:00] <steveire> not a full list, but no one needs to know a full list
[08:00] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[08:00] <BCK14> has everything at the moment
[08:00] <wiking> steveire: thnx
[08:00] <criptic> how long u been using it BCK14?
[08:00] <BCK14> what linux or 6.06?
[08:00] <criptic> well linux and ubuntu
[08:00] <steveire> Is there some way I can add info to ubotu?
[08:00] <cormano> hi
[08:00] <cormano> is posible to compile the dapper kernel with gcc 4?
[08:01] <BCK14> nix almost a year on and off, ubuntu maybe 2/3 weeks i had suse 10.1 before but suse is just too damn slow
[08:01] <criptic> lol ok
[08:01] <criptic> i almost tried suse
[08:01] <criptic> but never downloaded it
[08:01] <criptic> quick fact: ubuntu is a south african word
[08:01] <criptic> im south african!!
[08:02] <criptic> hell yea =D represent
[08:02] <BCK14> fair doo's
[08:02] <criptic> how long u think ubuntu will take to get to me
[08:02] <konfuzed> hey I'm havin some trouble with VNC. I ran VNC server on my BIM 770 laptop running win98 and I can connect and get the desktop on my ubuntu screen. However, the mouse and keyboard do not do anything on the laptop. I did verify that the NVC server on 98 does not have remote or local keyboard/mouse disabled.
[08:02] <criptic> im from cape town south africa and ordered it yesterday
[08:02] <BCK14> have no clue
[08:02] <BCK14> i download it
[08:03] <criptic> oh ok
[08:03] <steveire> you couldn't download it criptic?
[08:03] <konfuzed> criptic, give it 3 weeks
[08:03] <criptic> thanks konfuzed
[08:03] <BCK14> 3 weeks
[08:03] <roostishaw> anyone, what command can i use to list all installed packages?
[08:03] <criptic> steveire, im not on my adsl account atm
[08:03] <BCK14> im glad i downloaded it lol
[08:03] <PacketScan> download and burn the disks
[08:03] <criptic> cause mine is cap'd
[08:03] <criptic> heh
[08:03] <kalosaurusrex> !apt-cache
[08:03] <criptic> u guys downlond on ure 3mb broad band
[08:03] <Pretendeavor> hey
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about apt-cache
[08:03] <PacketScan> i couldn't live with out a working burner.
[08:04] <criptic> ill download on my 138 line :(
[08:04] <criptic> 35kb/s ftw?
[08:04] <Pretendeavor> can any one help me out here?
[08:04] <konfuzed> oddly enough I almost never burn anything to ROMs
[08:04] <jwickard> on windows I use to use TortoiseSVN to access my subversion repositories right through the file browser, just like it was a regular director.  Anyone know if there is anything comparable to that for gnome?
[08:04] <criptic> i u want to make money come to SA and start an ISP that provides over 2mb lines
[08:04] <criptic> u will make millions :)
[08:04] <konfuzed> criptic, sure im with you
[08:04] <roostishaw> anyone, what command can i use to list all installed packages?
[08:05] <nickrud> roostishaw, dpkg -l | grep ^ii
[08:05] <konfuzed> I can do everything it takes except for the financing
[08:05] <criptic> hehe
[08:05] <konfuzed> ;^)
[08:05] <Pretendeavor> i need help moutning my ntsf harddrive
[08:05] <criptic> with x-chat is there a command for multiple servers?
[08:06] <roostishaw> nickrud, thank you!
[08:06] <konfuzed> criptic, with x-chat just open another server but specify new window
[08:06] <ardchoille> criptic: yeah, open a new server in a new tab, it's in the server window
[08:06] <criptic> Pretendeavor, u should find google good for that, i havnt been searching for that topic but i have seen alot of stuff on it
[08:06] <compengi> is install of *.deb file easy?
[08:06] <kalosaurusrex> comp, yes, dpkg -i <filename>
[08:06] <konfuzed> Pretendeavor, try          man mount    and look for the ntfs option
[08:07] <judah> sudo dpkg
[08:07] <compengi> kalosaurusrex, whenever the file is
[08:07] <konfuzed> anyone familiar with VNC , im having a glitch problem \
[08:07] <PacketScan> Pretendeavor, Remeber.. writing to NTFS from linux is not such a good idea.
[08:07] <BCK14> !ntfs
[08:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:07] <kalosaurusrex> !deb
[08:07] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[08:08] <criptic> PacketScan, isnt it also hard to get working in the first place?
[08:08] <BCK14> criptic not to view ntfs
[08:08] <konfuzed> I can connect form my ubuntu to TightVNC running on a win98 laptop but my ubuntu keyboard and mouse do not impact the laptop
[08:08] <PacketScan> criptic, na :-)
[08:08] <wastrel> okey dokey
[08:08] <compengi> kalosaurusrex, it needs a permition
[08:09] <criptic> oh ok
[08:09] <criptic> i assumed it would be, but yea
[08:09] <criptic> i wish i had a beter release then hoarey :)
[08:09] <kalosaurusrex> comp, sudo..
[08:09] <BCK14> u will have
[08:09] <PacketScan> it's better than the alternate..
[08:09] <BCK14> just gotta wait criptic
[08:09] <PacketScan> running windows :-(
[08:09] <criptic> yea i guess
[08:09] <criptic> lol PacketScan
[08:09] <criptic> i got my windows pc here
[08:10] <criptic> its on the network but atm its only being used for music :)
[08:10] <PacketScan> I'm 95 percent on a linux desktop.   still keep and xp machine for work type activities.
[08:10] <criptic> hmm
[08:10] <compengi> dpkg: error processing skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386 (--install):
[08:10] <compengi>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[08:10] <compengi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:10] <compengi>  skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386
[08:10] <BCK14> how do you change the view in bluefish ?
[08:10] <jasonm> hello, im setting up an nvidia for some reason when i type in the command "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" i dont get the long walkthrough of questions... anyone know why?
[08:10] <criptic> if ure a linux wizard, would it be easyer to work on linux to do work or windows?
[08:10] <BCK14> so i can see what the page will look like?
[08:11] <jasonm> like all those setup questions
[08:11] <PacketScan> bbiab need cofee
[08:11] <PacketScan> coffee even
[08:11] <heman> is mixmaster in any of the repos?  how can i check?
[08:11] <criptic> like for u PacketScan what would u choose?
[08:11] <spikeb> heman: apt-cache search mixmaster
[08:11] <PacketScan> criptic, sorry choice as?  daily use desktop/
[08:11] <criptic> well
[08:11] <PacketScan> i'm using the latest ubuntu.
[08:11] <BCK14> ubuntu :) i can do more on it than xp
[08:11] <criptic> do u sometimes find it easyer to work with windows?
[08:11] <PacketScan> i was using mandriva.
[08:11] <criptic> rathere than linux?
[08:12] <BCK14> criptic
[08:12] <konfuzed> criptic, what sort of work do you need to do on a computer besides Open Office ?
[08:12] <Stormx2> !flac
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about flac
[08:12] <Stormx2> lame.
[08:12] <BCK14> you can just have xp in a virtual machine
[08:12] <criptic> hehe i guess ure right konfuzed  :)
[08:12] <Pretendeavor> okay hey im aksing for someone to help me out on this mounting thing im relay new to linux
[08:12] <konfuzed> Stormx2, flac is a video codec right
[08:12] <PacketScan> criptic, yes and no
[08:12] <criptic> BCK14, windows on VMware on this laptop will create to much lag :(
[08:12] <BCK14> ah
[08:12] <konfuzed> Stormx2, easyubuntu will install it for you
[08:12] <Stormx2> konfuzed: Don't think so >_<
[08:12] <BCK14> mine runs nice
[08:12] <Pretendeavor> all i wanna do is be abel to move my music from my windows hard drive to the linux
[08:12] <jummbob> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5563 package `ubuntu-standard':
[08:12] <jummbob> `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[08:13] <jummbob> How do I fix that error?
[08:13] <BCK14> Pretendeavor:
[08:13] <BCK14> !ntfs
[08:13] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[08:13] <jasonm> is anyone here using an Nvidia card, specifically a geforce fx 5200?
[08:13] <FlimFlamMan> hello. i've made it possible to let non-root users mount samba shares by setting suid on mount.cifs - how can i let them unmount these shares too?
[08:13] <BCK14> jasonm: i have geforce fx 5500 ?
[08:13] <konfuzed> Stormx2, im pretty sure that easyubuntu installs flac
[08:14] <Stormx2> !easyubuntu
[08:14] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:14] <jasonm> BCK14
[08:14] <BCK14> yes?
[08:14] <jummbob> meh... I'm gonna have to uninstall ubuntu ;.(
[08:14] <jasonm> <BCK14, what were the steps tp installing this card
[08:14] <FlimFlamMan> when a non-root user tries to unmount a cifs share, it gives this error:  umount: /mnt/samba-share is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[08:14] <compengi> !deb
[08:14] <BCK14> nothing
[08:14] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[08:14] <weihello> !wine
[08:14] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:14] <BCK14> jasonm: automatically detected
[08:15] <jasonm> really?
[08:15] <BCK14> yah
[08:15] <compengi> how do i install the deb file?
[08:15] <spades> dpkg -i file
[08:15] <compengi> and if it's in a directory?
[08:15] <konfuzed> jummbob, you give up too easy  uninstalling wont solve your problems
[08:15] <konfuzed> jummbob, neither will installing XP or win98
[08:15] <jummbob> i've asked here and in two ubuntu forums for help and nobpdy has
[08:15] <criptic> yea jummbob
[08:16] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[08:16] <criptic> jummbob, whats the Q?
[08:16] <jummbob> I cant apt-get anything... it keeps telling me do dkpg --configure -a
[08:16] <bruenig> do it
[08:16] <mormoloc> I have  a Sempron 1.6 Ghz what kernel should I use i686 or K7?
[08:17] <jummbob> when I do that I get:
[08:17] <jummbob> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5563 package `ubuntu-standard':
[08:17] <jummbob> `Depends' field, invalid package name `
[08:17] <mormoloc> do I need to compile it
[08:17] <criptic> ok
[08:17] <criptic> well im not a linux wiz but
[08:17] <criptic> invalid package
[08:17] <criptic> its trying to get a certain file
[08:17] <criptic> afaik
[08:17] <konfuzed> mormoloc, use the i386 installer
[08:17] <MrBallZ> hi , I wrongfully added a wifi0 interface,  i allready deleted it from the  /etc/networking/interfaces  file,  but when i run some wireless programs, they still mention it, and i found some folders named wifi0 inside: /proc/sys/dev/wifi0  and in /sys/class/net/wifi0  ... what can i do ?
[08:17] <criptic> and the file name is wrong
[08:18] <wastrel> unf
[08:18] <jummbob> so how would I fix it?
[08:18] <criptic>  near line 5563 package
[08:18] <criptic> in
[08:19] <criptic> /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:19] <bruenig> jumbo, do sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status
[08:19] <konfuzed> jummbob, try running aptitude and then select reload
[08:19] <mormoloc> konfused: already have that kernel , but to get better perfomence from youre pc
[08:19] <criptic> i would comment out the line that looks like a url (altho some one else might know more than me)
[08:19] <konfuzed> clearing that status mannually would be good tooo
[08:19] <jummbob> ok brb
[08:19] <criptic> konfuzed,
[08:19] <criptic> clearing it manually?\
[08:20] <bruenig> jummbob, when you have done sudo gedit /var/lib/dpkg/status go to search line then type in 5563
[08:20] <konfuzed> mormoloc, stick with the i386 kernel
[08:20] <criptic> edit it and remove all lines? (not sure if all lines are needed?)
[08:20] <konfuzed> mormoloc, there is no 64 bit software worth using
[08:21] <konfuzed> and any 64 bit kernel will not work with most 32bit (i386 based) multimedia
[08:21] <Tommy2k4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080 can anyone help me solve this problem
[08:21] <lufis> Hi. Is it possible in Gnome to have files copied from a camera as soon as the camera is connected? I tried doing it in Gnome's "Removable Drives and Media" preferences, and using, but I don't know what command to use. any ideas?
[08:22] <mormoloc> konfuzed: well i found this in an article so...
[08:22] <Pretendeavor> mount: only root can mount /dev/hda2 on /media/hda2
[08:22] <mormoloc> i thought my pc will work better
[08:23] <konfuzed> criptic, gedit the status file would be manual while aptitude reload would be rather automated but does not guarantee success at correcting it but is supposed to reset all package names and such
[08:23] <konfuzed> mormoloc, work better than what? What is not working properly or not working fast enough?
[08:23] <criptic> yea ok konfuzed manually always works best :)
[08:24] <konfuzed> manually takes more knowledge and effort to make happen though so often a quick try from the GUI tool can relieve much time efforst and frustrations
[08:24] <criptic> heh
[08:24] <s|k> I am having problems with mozilla whenever I install something it tells me it can't be updated
[08:24] <s|k> :|
[08:24] <s|k> anyone know what that is?
[08:24] <criptic> but manualy u learn what the error could be
[08:25] <s|k> it's been like that ever since I upgraded to Dapper
[08:25] <criptic> u should (in theroy) then be able to fix it quick and painlessly
[08:25] <criptic> :)
[08:25] <bruenig> !mozilla
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about mozilla
[08:25] <criptic> lol
[08:25] <bruenig> !anything
[08:25] <Ng> s|k: install something, as in an extension?
[08:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[08:26] <criptic> !firefox
[08:26] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:26] <bruenig> !nothing
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[08:26] <s|k> Ng: I never use mozilla but I can't uninstall it because it's used by other stuff I use
[08:26] <bruenig> !everything
[08:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about everything
[08:26] <criptic> ok bruenig
[08:26] <criptic> we get the poit
[08:26] <criptic> point*
[08:26] <konfuzed> criptic, its great to learn what the error could be and how to resolve it manually if you are encountering it all the time or you are responsible for fixing other peoples computer problems. Other wise manually fixing something only once and never having to encounter it again, teaches you nothing that will be remembered.
[08:27] <criptic> :)
[08:27] <Ng> s|k: ah, so this is a package manager error? if so, could you paste it to a pastebin please
[08:27] <s|k> I mean mozilla as in the mozilla suite, not mozilla/gecko  based browsers such as Firefox or Epiphany
[08:27] <criptic> konfuzed, u take long to type :)
[08:27] <criptic> and u like long answers
[08:27] <criptic> =D
[08:27] <s|k> Ng: what am I pasting? It's a pop up in synaptic
[08:27] <konfuzed> crimsun, I may type long but , when I type it is faster than most
[08:28] <criptic> hehe :)
[08:28] <Ng> s|k: you could try a package operation with apt-get in a terminal?
[08:28] <criptic> its all of that terminal use
[08:28] <criptic> :)
[08:28] <Jowi> konfuzed: (and more accurate)
[08:28] <bruenig> s|k, mozilla suite is unstable isn't it
[08:28] <Jowi> :)
[08:28] <crimsun> konfuzed: what?
[08:28] <amarokker> Hi, can someone please tell me which dpkg cmd i have to issue to get a list of dependencies for a certain package?
[08:28] <criptic> lol crimsun he ment to type criptic
[08:28] <Ng> amarokker: apt-cache show packagename   will include the dependencies
[08:29] <criptic> does ubuntu have some thing that will make a sound like dripping water?
[08:29] <s|k> Ng: http://pastebin.ca/72250
[08:29] <criptic> cause its really getting annoying now :(
[08:29] <konfuzed> oh yes thats right tab complete tricked me. should have been criptic
[08:29] <Jowi> amarokker: apt-cache show packagename
[08:29] <amarokker> Jowi, Ng- thanks :)
[08:30] <lonran> hi
[08:30] <Jowi> criptic: your sound has hung in a short loop?
[08:31] <xenex> Can someone help me with a xorg problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846
[08:31] <criptic> no Jowi
[08:31] <lonran> what should i install if i get the message from totem that it cant not play vcd?
[08:31] <criptic> there is a sound of dripping water
[08:31] <criptic> every now and then
[08:31] <s|k> Ng: did you get a chance to take a look?
[08:32] <Ng> s|k: yeah
[08:32] <stefg> !codecs > lonran
[08:32] <lonran> but what codecs?
[08:32] <Ng> s|k: I'm a little confused why your mozilla package wants to depend on 1.7.13 since 1.7.12 is the latest version. do you have any third party repositories enabled?
[08:33] <s|k> Ng: Wine, Compiz, and Jedit
[08:33] <cmatheson> i can't use apt because i need to authentication to use http (websense), i don't see an option in the apt.conf manpage for  this--is it possible?
[08:33] <Ng> s|k: could you paste the output of "apt-cache show mozilla" to the pastebin too please?
[08:34] <konfuzed> lonran go get easyubuntu and have it install all codecs and multimedia stuff available
[08:34] <lonran> thank konfuzed
[08:34] <s|k> Ng: http://pastebin.ca/72254
[08:34] <xenex> Can someone help me with a xorg problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846
[08:35] <criptic> !xorg
[08:35] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:35] <criptic> i guess not then
[08:36] <xenex> criptic: That doesn't help. :\ I have to change xorg.conf that is located on my harddrive from my LiveCD
[08:37] <searayman> can i get help with unichrome gl rendering support
[08:37] <criptic> !games
[08:37] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[08:37] <baby> hi there...  I have a problem w/a crashed disk.
[08:37] <baby> the crashed disk only contained /boot .. how can I "regenerate" /boot w/o reinstalling?
[08:37] <cmatheson> i can't use apt because i need to authentication to use http (websense), i don't see an option in the apt.conf manpage for  this--is it possible?
[08:37] <Ng> s|k: try "sudo apt-get install mozilla=2:1.7.12-1.1ubuntu2"
[08:37] <s|k> Ng: ok
[08:37] <searayman> none of that game sstuff has helped me
[08:37] <Ng> s|k: that 1.7.13 says ubuntu5.10 in it, which is breezy's release number. I'm not sure if that's a backport or something, but I don't think it should be there
[08:38] <Mastastealth> hey guys, i have a wireless USB dongle, uses Atheros chipset. I'm trying to run it using ndis wrapper as madwifi doesnt support Atheros USB chipsets, and ndiswrapper tells me that driver is present and hardware too, yet i dont have a "wlan0" device as most tutorials seem to mention, why?
[08:38] <s|k> Ng: same error as before
[08:38] <s|k> Ng:  you want the output?
[08:38] <Jowi> baby: have a look at the grub wikis. there should be a manual recovery of grub there
[08:38] <Jowi> !grub
[08:38] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:38] <Ng> s|k: nah. could you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list though
[08:38] <s|k> ng okay
[08:38] <searayman> unichrome gl rendering support????
[08:39] <baby> jowi, ubotu, thanx for the pointers... I'll be looking at that. regards.
[08:39] <s|k> Ng: http://pastebin.ca/72259
[08:39] <xenex> !failsafe
[08:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about failsafe
[08:39] <s|k> Ng: I should probably get rid of that cdrom one
[08:39] <Ng> s|k: erk, lines 38-41 (the ones that say breezy) shouldn't be there
[08:40] <Ng> s|k: and yeah, the cdrom one should go too
[08:40] <s|k> Ng: what should they say?
[08:40] <Ng> s|k: they just shouldn't be there
[08:40] <s|k> ok
[08:40] <criptic> yea
[08:40] <criptic> that wouldnt help
[08:40] <jnoon> i only see apache2 available from apt... is apache 2.2 not available?
[08:40] <Ng> jnoon: nope
[08:40] <criptic> cause it was related to "X" and not "xorg"
[08:41] <s|k> Ng: should I do and update and dist-upgrade now?
[08:41] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu has crashed for the 5th time today :@
[08:41] <Tommy2k4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080
[08:41] <Tommy2k4> theres the problem
[08:41] <jnoon> Ng, whats the proper solution? source install?
[08:41] <Ng> jnoon: at least, not in the ubuntu repositories, its possible that some third party provides pacakges
[08:41] <Ng> s|k: yeah that's probably worth trying
[08:41] <lufis> What do you guys think of GRUB 2? I want to try it out
[08:42] <konfuzed> lufis, what is your specific need to fuck with the boot loader ???
[08:42] <lufis> konfuzed: I love to tweak, duh! :P
[08:42] <s|k> Ng: okay, I got a NO_PUBKEY error for the compiz repository, but besides that it went fine
[08:42] <konfuzed> wrong reason
[08:43] <s|k> Ng: did that solve the problem?
[08:43] <lufis> konfuzed: I disagree :)
[08:43] <Ng> s|k: did it say it was doing anything with mozilla?
[08:43] <s|k> Ng: no it said nothing
[08:43] <konfuzed> lufis enjoy learning about disaster recovery
[08:43] <Ng> s|k: hmm, then it probably is ok, if you want to confirm, run "dpkg -l mozilla" and see what the version number is
[08:43] <lufis> konfuzed: Haha, well. Aren't you excited about a new version of Grub? I am
[08:44] <FunnyLookinHat> !g++
[08:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[08:44] <lufis> konfuzed: Besides, that's the best way to learn
[08:44] <s|k> Ng: version <none> Description (no description available)
[08:44] <konfuzed> new versions of anything are only useful if they resolve an actual problem you are having
[08:45] <raving> Does libboost-dev have all of the header files and everything in it?
[08:45] <s|k> or if they have new useful functionality you want
[08:45] <Ng> s|k: I reckon you should be ok then :)
[08:45] <s|k> like inkscape .44
[08:45] <s|k> Ng: okay :/
[08:45] <s|k> Ng: thank you for your help :)
[08:45] <s|k> Ng: oh now a --reinstall works with no errors
[08:46] <s|k> that must have been the issue
[08:46] <mohadib> hwllo
[08:46] <konfuzed> hwllo
[08:46] <JonasRH> I try to access the tool "Shared Folders" (I think that's it in English), but when I type my password it keeps telling me it's wrong. It works when I try to use the other tools. Any ideas why?
[08:46] <mohadib> does anyone else have issues with firefox not getting focus when a new window is created?
[08:47] <yallaman> how can i display my mouse crusor posision..x/y?
[08:47] <mohadib> firefox windows dont start with focus
[08:47] <mohadib> this was a problem with breezy and still is a problem in dapper
[08:47] <mohadib> anyone else get this
[08:48] <ompaul> !timetable
[08:48] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[08:48] <s|k> it is amazing how many browsers I have installed
[08:49] <stefg> JonasRH: read the samba doc
[08:49] <andi5> hi. i suppose faq again... how do i change the gdm resolution? if i write 1024x768 to the front of the modelines, then gdm starts X in 1024x768 physical, but 1280x1024(960?) logical, so that i do not see all pixels but have to "scroll"... any hint, thanks in advance!
[08:49] <konfuzed> s|k, how many?
[08:49] <ompaul> konfuzed, ^^ for the next time you see lufis or someone like that
[08:49] <stefg> !samba
[08:49] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:49] <Serious-Sven> can someone help me with libqt3c102-mt, opera needs it and it's installed  as libqt3-mt (3:3.3.6)
[08:49] <JonasRH> stefg: I will. Thanks.
[08:50] <s|k> konfuzed: mozilla, firefox, epiphany, konqueror, flock, opera, ie6, links, lynx, but no galleon
[08:50] <andi5> s|k: you do not have w3m??
[08:50] <konfuzed> ompaul, ?  do you mean andi5's post? or the timetable
[08:50] <s|k> andi5: what is that?
[08:51] <s|k> the w3c browser? it is terrible
[08:51] <andi5> s|k: w3m? it rocks, it can show pixmaps in the terminal :)
[08:51] <andi5> at least xterm
[08:51] <xenex> Can someone help me with a xorg problem? I have to change one line of text in my xorg.conf that is located on my harddrive from the LiveCD I am currently using. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846
[08:51] <s|k> andi5: ooh I'll take a look thanks
[08:51] <ompaul> konfuzed, your konfuzed it is about timetable why not to go sticking new bits in the middle of stable software
[08:51] <warepoju> hello
[08:51] <kristian> !flash
[08:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <konfuzed> s|k, the w3c browser is for plain text compatibility as it was the original http browser and intends to maintain full backward compatibility but not nescesarily forward compatibility
[08:52] <s|k> andi5: I do have it already I didn't know though
[08:52] <mohadib> !firefox
[08:52] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:52] <MikkelRev> How do I enable unicode in ubuntu? Certain characters wont show properly in IRC and in FireFox
[08:52] <andi5> do we take about w3c or w3m?
[08:53] <mohadib> anyone?
[08:53] <mohadib> focus issues with firefox?
[08:53] <billybennett> Does anyone know why it takes my computer a VERY long time lately to *mount root filesystem* ??
[08:53] <voloc> hi, how do i install windows after having installed ubuntu without losing GRUB?
[08:53] <konfuzed> ompaul, yes that is certainly the reasons for not jumpoin all over new version upgrades
[08:53] <stefg> mohadib: i don't think it's a firefox-problem, the focus is managed by the windowmanager. rather check if some program like gdesklets 'steals' the focus
[08:53] <andi5> voloc: install grub to a floppy (setup (fd0))
[08:53] <nickrud> MikkelRev, ubuntu is already unicode
[08:54] <MikkelRev> nickrud: ok, do you see these characters properly? , , 
[08:54] <ompaul> konfuzed, as I paraphrase it, this is not windows, it is only like windows in that it is software running on a computer, just about there the similarity stops
[08:54] <voloc> andi5:and then how do i put it back to the mbr
[08:54] <mohadib> stefg: it shows up as a firefox bug
[08:54] <nickrud> MikkelRev, yes, a & e conjoined, the o with the slash thru it, and an a with a circle above
[08:54] <konfuzed> lufis seems to be gone but the best way to learn about new versions features try em out and such is on a wholly seperate box for dev and testing and the like that wont risk taking down your daily use box
[08:54] <mohadib> stefg: in the ubuntu and mozilla bug list it is listed as a firefox problem
[08:55] <MikkelRev> nickrud: Seems all ppl using mIRC dont see them right
[08:55] <konfuzed> ompaul, thats a great pair of phrases
[08:55] <yallaman> how can i display my mouse crusors posistion..by X/Y values?
[08:55] <andi5> voloc: well, there are probably other ways, but i do the same all the time.... $ grub.  root (hdx,y)  (=partition containing /boot in grub notation)  \n setup (hd0) (or (fd0)) ,,, quit
[08:55] <stefg> ok... if you checked that already, go ahead.
[08:55] <mohadib> go ahead and waht?
[08:56] <konfuzed> yallaman, I keep thinking that if you   tail /dev/mousedeviceid   then you may very well get that info
[08:56] <ompaul> konfuzed, use them at will
[08:56] <xenex> Can someone help me with a xorg problem? I have to change one line of text in my xorg.conf that is located on my harddrive from the LiveCD I am currently using. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203846
[08:56] <Juhaz> MikkelRev, the encoding ubuntu uses for unicode characters is utf-8, windows users probably expect windows-1252
[08:56] <konfuzed> no i dont know what the mousedeviceid is or would be
[08:56] <andi5> reask: how do i change the gdm resolution? if i write 1024x768 to the front of the modelines, then gdm starts X in 1024x768 physical, but 1280x1024(960?) logical, so that i do not see all pixels but have to "scroll"... any hint, thanks in advance!
[08:56] <stefg> investigating in firefox-bugs... sometimes one just looks at the wrong things when trying to fix a problem, but in your case this seems not the case
[08:57] <Juhaz> MikkelRev, I don't know about gaim, but most IRC clients let you specify the encoding
[08:58] <andi5> MikkelRev: edit the irc account, there are additional options, including the encoding
[08:58] <MikkelRev> Juhaz: ok, I gotta tell all to switch their codepage then
[08:58] <stefg> xenex: can you chroot in your hd-install?
[08:59] <konfuzed> oooooooooooooooooo geee whiz I've go to get ready for my 'raindrop therapy' ;^) its like hawaian massage or something based on LomiLomi
[08:59] <Flippy209> ic56: you around?
[08:59] <xenex> stefg: How would I do that?
[09:00] <yallaman> konfuzed: im not sure what "mousedeviceid" should be..:/
[09:00] <stefg> 'sudo mount /dev/hdX /mnt' then 'cd /mnt', 'sudo chroot .'
[09:00] <TheBigToe> how do I get a 3.9mb wav down to the lowest filesize possible in audacity?
[09:01] <xenex> stefg: What would I replace hdX with?
[09:01] <TheBigToe> I've given up on trying to find the LAME drivers...
[09:01] <stefg> your root-partition
[09:01] <rpedro> TheBigToe: convert to .ogg ?
[09:01] <CuriosCat> Howdy all
[09:01] <andi5> TheBigToe: if you do not want to lose information, maybe flac?
[09:01] <xenex> stefg: I don't know it. :\
[09:01] <finalbeta> How can I format unallocated space to fat32?
[09:01] <TheBigToe> it has to be mp3 or wav :(
[09:02] <andi5> TheBigToe: lame
[09:02] <rpedro> !restricted > TheBigToe
[09:02] <rlj> have a somewhat fresh install of kubuntu 6.06 on my laptop here. i just realized though that somehow (i have no idea why) the LANG environment variable is en_AU.UTF-8 (en_US.UTF-8 would be more like it). how can i change this and are there other things needing to be changed as well to correctly switch system language?
[09:02] <TheBigToe> andi5, yeah
[09:02] <stefg> xenex: sudo fdisk -l will giv you a list
[09:02] <TheBigToe> I can't find the .so module though
[09:02] <andi5> TheBigToe: lol, lame is a proggie
[09:03] <konfuzed> yallaman, i dont know either but there is one. it may be listed in dmesg or a little googling will tell you
[09:03] <TheBigToe> but audacity can use the liblame.so file to save an mp3 lame-encoded
[09:03] <TheBigToe> :V
[09:03] <xenex> /dev/hda1   *           1        4676    37559938+  83  Linux
[09:03] <xenex> /dev/hda2            4677        4864     1510110    5  Extended
[09:03] <xenex> /dev/hda5            4677        4864     1510078+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[09:03] <xenex> Would it be number 1 stefg?
[09:03] <stefg> yup
[09:04] <xenex> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hd1/ /mnt
[09:04] <xenex> mount: special device /dev/hd1/ does not exist
[09:04] <xenex> stefg: :\
[09:04] <rlj> xenex: hda1
[09:04] <andi5> xenex: it is hda1 without slash
[09:04] <stefg> it's /dev/hda1
[09:04] <MikkelRev> whats the fstab entry for mounting a vfat read-writeable ?
[09:04] <rpedro> TheBigToe: the repositories on this page ought to have the lame encoder >> http://rarewares.org/debian.html
[09:05] <rpedro> TheBigToe: not sure about the .so file tho
[09:05] <andi5> MikkelRev: as usual, rw should be a default option, right?
[09:06] <MikkelRev> andi5: I have this line: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46,rw 0       1
[09:06] <MikkelRev> andi5: and its read-only
[09:06] <xenex> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/hd1/ /mnt
[09:06] <xenex> mount: special device /dev/hd1/ does not exist
[09:06] <xenex> I got that.
[09:06] <charle97> ooooo a sata drive?
[09:06] <xenex> I mean
[09:06] <xenex> root@ubuntu:/etc/X11# sudo nano xorg.conf
[09:06] <xenex> sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()
[09:06] <xenex> I got that.
[09:06] <Flannel> xenex: you need a letter.  hda1 hdb1 etc.  And to fix sudo, you need to fix your hosts file
[09:07] <andi5> MikkelRev: and you belong to group 46? (id)
[09:07] <Flannel> xenex: actually, nevermind.  Youre root, you don't need to use sudo
[09:07] <rpedro> TheBigToe: found this page http://audacityteam.org/forum/thread/1540
[09:07] <ompaul> xenex, when you want to paste can you please use paste.ubuntu-nl.com thanks
[09:07] <xenex> Thank you very much guys. I will now restart to see if it worked.
[09:08] <wastrel> you're welcome
[09:08] <JonasRH> Why can I not edit the Samba config file?
[09:08] <rpedro> TheBigToe: google is your friend :)
[09:08] <stefg> xenex, you're not done yet
[09:08] <MikkelRev> andi5: I dunno, how do I check? that was the default entry. I just added the rw behind, but no effect
[09:08] <andi5> MikkelRev: id
[09:09] <charle97> mikkelrev: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows
[09:09] <nickrud> TheBigToe, you want to install liblame0
[09:10] <xukun> its wise to use xgl with dapper or is't still not very stable?
[09:10] <MikkelRev> andi5: no, I'm in gid 1000.... 46=plugdev
[09:10] <TheBigToe> nickrud, done it
[09:10] <TheBigToe> just can't find the .so file
[09:10] <krang> How do you set the language for a user? I enabled French support, but have no idea how to make everything appear in French for one user
[09:10] <nickrud> TheBigToe, /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[09:11] <animato> krang
[09:11] <rpedro> TheBigToe: /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0
[09:11] <andi5> MikkelRev: so well.... you say all files belong to group 46, do not belong to that group and say that others are not allowed to change anything... well, there is not much space left for you ;-)
[09:11] <TheBigToe> ARGH
[09:11] <TheBigToe> guys
[09:11] <krang> animato: yo
[09:11] <animato> and change it's settings
[09:11] <TheBigToe> nautuilus is going crazy
[09:11] <animato> it's only gonna work for that user
[09:11] <MikkelRev> andi5: ok, will try change it to 1000 then
[09:11] <nickrud> TheBigToe, dpkg -L <packagename> gives you the files in the package for future ref
[09:11] <TheBigToe> there are 20023983493494 windows opening
[09:11] <siriusnova> howdy
[09:11] <animato> hey, i have a strange problem
[09:12] <krang> animato: er, how do I set several users to french then?
[09:12] <TheBigToe> meh, stopped now
[09:12] <siriusnova> stupid question i know but im reinstalling dapper, what's the best way to get up and running, automatix or easy ubuntu. IE something that doesnt mess up the system and allows me to remove or update later on
[09:12] <animato> just include them all on the same group i think
[09:12] <TheBigToe> thanks rpedro and nickrud
[09:12] <krang> animato: is there a "french" group by default?
[09:12] <nickrud> siriusnova, the guns here say easyubuntu, I've never used either
[09:12] <siriusnova> it has to be something that i can undo through synaptic if i want to
[09:13] <animato> whenever i install the nvidia drivers for my graphic card, my screensaver stops responding. i mean i set it to 5 mins, and it won't work
[09:13] <animato> krang, no, but you can make one
[09:13] <animato> i mean create one
[09:13] <siriusnova> and not do some crazy wacky stuff that isn't part of the default ubuntu packaging system
[09:13] <nickrud> siriusnova, you might ask on #easyubuntu for details, but that's their exact goal
[09:13] <krang> animato: ok, how do I then set things so that people in that group see frenc?
[09:14] <xenex> It worked. :)
[09:14] <animato> i dunno
[09:14] <animato> but maybe if you set it for one user on that group, it would apply to all of them?
[09:14] <animato> can anyone please help me with my problem? :(
[09:14] <andi5> animato: what is it?
[09:14] <andi5> oh i see
[09:15] <animato> but maybe if you set it for one user on that group, it would apply to all of them?
[09:15] <ogami1972> when i change my default soundcard, it reverts back to the onboard sound- any ideas?
[09:15] <animato> sorry
[09:15] <animato> whenever i install the nvidia drivers for my graphic card, my screensaver stops responding. i mean i set it to 5 mins, and it won't work
[09:15] <attah> um.. when i try to open .exe (wine) files i get a message saying that they might be dangueros, right-click and open works.. how do i fix this annoyance?
[09:15] <animato> i didn't have that problem back in dapper
[09:15] <andi5> breezy?
[09:15] <animato> i meant breezy
[09:15] <animato> my bad :)
[09:16] <xukun> this channel got so big so fast that it become like the debian chanel and tha dont have to be something positive!
[09:16] <nickrud> ogami1972, you can permanently blacklist your onboard soundcard by adding it's kernel module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[09:16] <andi5> animato: what does "stop responding" mean?
[09:16] <animato> it did work when i tried kde
[09:16] <Minty> I have wine installe but have nevere tried it how do you start a windows program ??
[09:16] <animato> it means
[09:17] <crimsun> ogami1972: meaning using System> Preferences> Sound> set default card ?
[09:17] <animato> if i have my screensaver set to 5 mins, and then i install my nvidia driver
[09:17] <ogami1972> yes- when i close, it reverts
[09:17] <animato> the screensaver will never come up
[09:17] <crimsun> ogami1972: that occurs when something's still holding the device you're attempting to switch /from/
[09:17] <ogami1972> hmmm
[09:17] <crimsun> ogami1972: a workaround is to use asoundconf(1) directly
[09:17] <andi5> animato: is the order of setting and installing important here?
[09:17] <animato> well yes
[09:18] <xukun> !skype
[09:18] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:18] <crimsun> ogami1972: e.g., asoundconf set-default-card USB
[09:18] <animato> because it works when i first install dapper
[09:18] <animato> but when i install the nvidia driver, it stops working
[09:18] <crimsun> ogami1972: (that's for my config, of course. YMMV.)
[09:18] <ogami1972> think i get it- i tried this midi setup, then logged in as a user i have setup for audio production- things looked good, started up fine, so i logged out and logged in as normal user- would that explain it?
[09:18] <AlexC> Hey
[09:18] <andi5> animato: did you choose a 3d screen saver and your 3d support is not configured correctly yet?
[09:18] <animato> no
[09:18] <animato> i'm using the "blank screen" one
[09:19] <AlexC> I remember having a program/extension for Thunderbird that would minimize it to the system tray
[09:19] <AlexC> Can anyone remember it?
[09:19] <crimsun> ogami1972: shouldn't be relevant
[09:20] <stefg> AlexC: u could use alltray, or a simple mailchecker-applet
[09:20] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere?
[09:21] <andi5> animato: so the whole configuration dialog works but the screensaver never starts?
[09:21] <ubuntu__> slt
[09:21] <tanlaan> hey all
[09:21] <attah2> um.. when i try to open .exe (wine) files i get a message saying that they might be dangueros, right-click and open works.. how do i fix this annoyance? (2nd try, lagged out)
[09:21] <animato> yes
[09:21] <AlexC> stefg, mmmm I prefered the old one I had as it would also add an icon when email is recieved
[09:21] <krang> animato: ahSo, anyone know how to make a user's desktop french? I have the french language pack installed and don't know where to go
[09:21] <tanlaan> looking for a simple and easy way to download yacc
[09:21] <krang> So, anyone know how to make a user's desktop french? I have the french language pack installed and don't know where to go
[09:21] <majd> !samba
[09:21] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:22] <animato> krang, i told you
[09:22] <animato> just logon with that user and change his lang settings
[09:22] <krang> animato: er, you said add them to a group
[09:22] <animato> maybe you missed it
[09:22] <krang> animato: oh ok, where are those settings?
[09:22] <animato> if it's just one user
[09:22] <stefg> AlexC: so search on the thunderbird-extension-sites :-), they DO provide searchboxes
[09:22] <henry_> when I try to run xine, it halts at tells me "Could not establish connection to sound server"
[09:22] <wastrel> tanlaan:  sudo apt-get install byacc  ?
[09:22] <animato> system->administration->language support
[09:22] <krang> animato: because the languge menu item only installs, it doesn't select
[09:22] <andi5> animato: i am sorry, but i do not seem to be able to help you :(
[09:23] <henry_> anyone know how to figure out what sound server it means?
[09:23] <AlexC> stefg, it wasn't an extension....I don't think
[09:23] <tanlaan> ummm sure ill try that
[09:23] <heman> !repos
[09:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:23] <animato> it's ok andi, at least you tried
[09:23] <andi5> henry_: esd?
[09:23] <xukun> can anybody point me a good howto for installing xgl on ati card
[09:23] <tanlaan> i just need it because another program im trying to "make", like after compileing, wants to use yacc for a command and i dont have it
[09:24] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere? where is it?
[09:24] <andi5> animato: maybe you can tell me why gdm has a physical x resolution different from the logical resolution? (i have to "scroll" to see all buttons) :-D
[09:24] <Jowi> yacc should be in the bison package if i'm not mistaken...?
[09:25] <mnrdknn> hey i'm having sound problems when upgraded to dapper.. can anyone help me?
[09:25] <henry_> when I go to System > preferences > sound it doesn't show any sound card, but my screen resolution is such that I can't see the whole dialog
[09:25] <wastrel> hmm bison yes.  byacc may work too dunno
[09:25] <animato> what do you mean andi5?
[09:26] <stefg> Does anyone know when the next batch of updates for dapper is to be expected. Hearing a lot about problems (and having one myself)  at least the -25 kernel build needs to be replaced asap
[09:26] <Jowi> ...or byacc
[09:26] <mnrdknn> stefg, i agree w u
[09:26] <animato> i don't mean to badmouth or anything, is it just me or does dapper's gnome ver feels a bit sluggish compared to breezy's?
[09:27] <andi5> animato: well, in gnome i have 1024x768, but the first resolution in my xorg conf modeline was bigger (gdm took that one), so i wrote 1024x768 to the front... now x has indeed 1024x768 as resolution, but i can scroll 1280x1024 pixels (gdm is 1280 pixels wide) (scroll=move mouse to the right)
[09:27] <animato> sorry, i have no idea andi5
[09:27] <animato> are you using dapper or breezy?
[09:27] <majd> !lamp
[09:27] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:27] <andi5> dapper
[09:28] <tanlaan> again im having problems using "make"
[09:28] <animato> ok
[09:28] <reXin> can anybody lend me a hand with an EFI/Dapper issue?
[09:28] <animato> ever used breezy?
[09:28] <andi5> tanlaan: what is it?
[09:28] <tanlaan> you can see it here http://pastebin.ca/72311
[09:28] <andi5> animato: yes, never had problems
[09:28] <tanlaan> it is a moo application
[09:29] <majd> hey, is there a way to get a list of samba users?
[09:29] <animato> do you find dapper's gnome a bit sluggish compared to breezy's?
[09:29] <andi5> but i installed dapper on a completely new computer, so i have no experience with this particular one.... additionally, i had an old xorg file, generated by X, now i took the one dapper installed for me
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> majd: samba clients, shares or actual people?
[09:29] <majd> fyrestrtr, samba clients
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> majd: Network Browser, or smbclient -l
[09:30] <andi5> animato: you mean slow? .... no not really
[09:30] <heman> !automatix
[09:30] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[09:30] <animato> not slow
[09:30] <animato> it's just
[09:31] <tortho> any grub experts here_ i deleted 3 partitions used by a second copy of linux... now, i get a grub error 17 at reboot, and my system stops there.
[09:31] <majd> fyrestrtr, that just gave me a list of options
[09:31] <andi5> hi tortho :)
[09:31] <animato> i'm running both firefox with a few tabs and epiphany at once and it's a bit sluggish
[09:31] <animato> and i have amd 2800 and 512 ram
[09:31] <fyrestrtr> majd: you need to give it a host.
[09:31] <BSDnux> tortho, you probably deleted menu.lst from /boot/grub you need to reinstall grub using a live-cd or something
[09:31] <stefg> animato: I guess it's this lousy -25 kernel... with previous versions the desktop even felt snappier to me in dapper
[09:32] <andi5> tortho: did you delete partitions that were numbered before the partition containing /boot?
[09:33] <tortho> andi5: Hi, andi from gnucash.... no, boot was sda 5, swap was sda 8, and / was sda 6... i deleted 7,9 and 10..
[09:33] <mnrdknn> where can i find other kernel images (.deb) ?
[09:33] <animato> stefg, it's good to know it's not just me
[09:33] <animato> what do you mean by kernel -25?
[09:33] <Administrator_> who wants a moustache ride?
[09:33] <andi5> animato: maybe some weird (many) extensions? ;-)
[09:33] <animato> not really
[09:34] <stefg> BTW, I cant even rebuild a kernel with the offical ubuntu-sources, and the official config... will error #2
[09:34] <animato> moustache ride?
[09:34] <ackbahr> 'nite!
[09:34] <animato> what's kernel -25 stefg?
[09:34] <Dial_tone> 2.6.15-25
[09:35] <animato> oh
[09:35] <stefg> the build-number 2.6.15-arch-*25*
[09:35] <tortho> bdsnux, and andi so, it\s the partition between boot and the rest..
[09:35] <animato> so i'm glad to kno w i'm not the only one
[09:35] <animato> anyway to use any older kernels in dapper?
[09:35] <andi5> tortho: do not forget to change your /etc/fstab for your swap partition :)
[09:35] <animato> other than install breezy again?
[09:35] <andi5> tortho: can you fire up grub now?
[09:36] <BSDnux> tortho, what i'd try to do is booting a live-cd, chrooting to your system and do a grub-install on /dev/sda
[09:36] <tortho> it wont start at boot... only stops with error 17 before the menu comes up...
[09:36] <xukun> is there a chanel for xgl related staff?
[09:36] <mnrdknn> isn't there a way to run alsaconf on ubuntu dapper?
[09:36] <andi5> tortho: no try grub in the terminal :)
[09:36] <animato> stefg anyway to use any older kernels in dapper? other than installing breezy?
[09:36] <bbrazil> xukun: #ubuntu-xgl
[09:36] <tanlaan> having problems in the "make" step of installing something,  you can see it here http://pastebin.ca/72311
[09:36] <xukun> bbrazil, thanks
[09:37] <tortho> andi5: yes, i have it running..
[09:37] <andi5> tortho: then type "root (hd" and TAB, see what it gives you.... choose an hd, type comma and TAB again... this way you should be able to detect what your root (boot) partition is (hdx,4)
[09:37] <stefg> Sadly only -23 is an option... the earlier ones are no longer in the repos
[09:37] <andi5> tortho: if you have it, issue setup (hdx) ... (same x) ...quit
[09:37] <animato> are -23 any good?
[09:38] <animato> do you think the next ones on edgy will be better?
[09:38] <void^> tanlaan: what's the problem?
[09:38] <stefg> My personal problem is the same with it... but i heard other users loosing their sound with -25 and stuff like that
[09:38] <VitaminG> has anyone here tried compiling the intel modem drivers in dapper?
[09:38] <animato> are you using dapper or breezy stefg?
[09:38] <andi5> tanlaan: issue "echo $?" if it gives you 0, then you are fine :)
[09:38] <animato> are the -23 any better?
[09:38] <stefg> 2.6.15 is in dapper
[09:39] <animato> 2.6.15?
[09:39] <pppoe_dude> hi
[09:39] <wastrel> hello!
[09:39] <stefg> kernel 2.6.15
[09:39] <pppoe_dude> any tips on setting up firestarter with a ppp connection (dsl)
[09:40] <animato> are those the same as in breezy? 2.6.15?
[09:40] <stefg> no breezy has 2.6.12
[09:40] <ogami1972> well, no use- wrote .asoundrc, but still cannot set default sound card
[09:40] <animato> what about the -27 one?
[09:40] <tanlaan> andi5: i got a 1
[09:40] <andi5> tanlaan: did you enter other commands after make?
[09:41] <tanlaan> nope
[09:41] <tortho> andi5 root (hd     ... is that what i'm supposed to type... i know wich numbers the partitions have now... does that help..
[09:41] <tanlaan> not that i know of
[09:41] <tanlaan> well remember
[09:41] <tanlaan> lol
[09:41] <andi5> tortho: what is it?
[09:41] <majd> i need a command that would change the user and group and permissions of a folder recursively
[09:41] <majd> i can do the permissions, but i need help changing the user and group
[09:41] <animato> stefg, did you try the -27 ones?
[09:41] <Tommy2k4> ubuntu crashed AGAIN
[09:41] <jrib> majd: chown -R
[09:41] <tanlaan> let me guess...im gonna have to redownload it
[09:42] <Tommy2k4> at this rate im gonna have to go back to windows :s
[09:42] <xukun> !skype
[09:42] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:42] <andi5> tortho: say /boot is (hd1,4) ...... enter  .... root (hd1,4), then ... setup (hd1) ... then.... quit :-)
[09:42] <jrib> majd: be very careful with setting permissions like that... usually it is unneccessary and can screw up your bo
[09:42] <jrib> x
[09:42] <stefg> animato: it's only at -17 now.... and no, i'm not keen on loosing nvidia and vmware-modules
[09:42] <kalosaurusrex> !automatrix
[09:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about automatrix
[09:42] <jrib> !automatix
[09:43] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[09:43] <tortho> andi5: it is still sda5.... the / is still sda6, but swap has changed from 8 to 7
[09:43] <kalosaurusrex> oh thatnks.
[09:43] <kalosaurusrex> thanks even
[09:43] <rixxon> is there no equivalent to bsd's pf.conf in linux (iptables)? do you write shell scripts instead or what :S
[09:43] <animato> oh well, i guess i'll be back to breezy after all
[09:43] <andi5> tortho: yes, but grub uses different names than linux
[09:43] <animato> i had no problems using it
[09:43] <majd> jrib, i need to do it because i need to write and execute files from another computer on my network
[09:43] <majd> only way it works =\
[09:43] <adicts> can someone help me? i installed nvidia glx , but when i try booting with my card installed it only shows ubuntu loading, the desktop doesnt appear
[09:43] <animato> i hope edgy would be btter
[09:44] <andi5> animato: edgy == 06.12 or 06.10?
[09:44] <Minty> Hi, when I do wine /home/trevor/Desktop/win/Program Files/ISQL I get a cannot find  '/home/trevor/Desktop/win/Program' any ideas
[09:44] <imbrandon> 6.10
[09:44] <dli> adicts, does it work with the "nv" driver ?
[09:44] <andi5> uih, that is not much time
[09:44] <jrib> Minty: enclose the path in quotations marks
[09:44] <brian_> ok i have an aha2940 scsi adapter. if I plug this in will buntu discover it and install it or will i have to install drivers for it manually?
[09:44] <Minty> trying
[09:45] <bruenig> minty, you can't have spaces in path names
[09:45] <adicts> someone told me i only needed nvidia glx
[09:45] <imbrandon> andi5 6.10.26 to be exact
[09:45] <adicts> i tried using a driver but it said it needed to be run as root
[09:45] <adicts> and i tryed the $sudo command
[09:45] <andi5> imbrandon: any particular reason for 26?
[09:46] <dli> adicts, Ctl-Alt-F1 , login, do: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[09:46] <Moodles> adicts: in synaptic package manager, do a search for 'nvidia'
[09:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell adicts about nvidia
[09:46] <tortho> andi5, if i try root sd   and then press tab, it just says error 23, error while parsing numbers
[09:46] <ntoll> hi, beagle doesn't seem to work for me on dapper... it WAS working fine a few weeks ago (when I last used it) but now it doesn't seem to find any results... Any pointers as to what might be wrong?
[09:46] <bruenig> minty try /home/trevor/Desktop/Program\ Files/ISQL
[09:46] <majd> what's the numerical equivalent to -rwxrwxr-x ?
[09:46] <andi5> tortho: type _numbers_ :-) .... maybe you should install grub-doc and read "naming conventions" :)
[09:46] <dli> adicts, after that, do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , select the nv driver (not nvidia )
[09:47] <jrib> majd: 775
[09:47] <adicts> ok
[09:47] <jrib> ubotu: tell majd about permissions
[09:47] <Minty> still no go :(
[09:47] <imbrandon> andi5 becosue thats the release date ;)
[09:47] <adicts> is that all?
[09:47] <dli> adicts, then: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[09:47] <andi5> imbrandon: thanks ;-)
[09:47] <imbrandon> and thats what the version numbers go by
[09:47] <adicts> alright thanks alot
[09:47] <jrib> Minty: can you paste what you entered as well as the output?
[09:47] <LiteHedded> how do I see if my scsi card is supported?
[09:48] <tortho> andi5, maby just reinstall ... im here on a dapper live cd, wich does not want to change to norwegian keyboard..
[09:48] <dli> adicts, I want to you to locate the problem, it could be a video card driver problem (xorg), or a gnome problem
[09:48] <Minty> trevor@trevor-ubuntu:~$ wine '/home/trevor/Desktop/Program\Files/ISQL'
[09:48] <Minty> wine: cannot find '/home/trevor/Desktop/Program\Files/ISQL'
[09:48] <bbrazil> LiteHedded: you coudl try googleing the model number along with "ubutnu" or "linux"
[09:48] <billybennett> Can someone help me figure out why when I try and shutdown my computer it shuts the screen off but does not fully power off?  I have to manually turn it off
[09:48] <LiteHedded> theres no list of suported hardware?
[09:48] <jrib> Minty: you probably want it to be Program Files with a space, not Program\Files
[09:48] <andi5> tortho: you decide :) but if you have (hd0,4) or (hd1,4) take that :)
[09:49] <Minty> ~$  wine '/home/trevor/Desktop/win/Program Files/ISQL'
[09:49] <Minty> wine: could not load L"Z:\\home\\trevor\\Desktop\\win\\Program Files\\ISQL.": In valid handle
[09:49] <pppoe_dude> whats this for? #deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe (its at the end of a default sources.list file on a breezy install)
[09:49] <pppoe_dude> is it supported or unsupported updates/
[09:50] <jrib> Minty: that seems more like a wine problem now, try #winehq
[09:50] <LiteHedded> if ubuntu has a driver for this adapter it will install it automatically on boot right?
[09:50] <andi5> pppoe_dude: security updates, you should really remove the hash (#), if you have any servers running
[09:50] <stefg> billybennett: if it's an old (>5 yrs) machine then maybe 'acpi=off apm=power_down' as boot parameters could help
[09:50] <Minty> k, thanks
[09:50] <tortho> andi5> grub> root (hd0     just echoes      grub> root (hd0,    gives me Error 21: Selected disk does not exist .... the same thing happends with hd1...
[09:50] <pppoe_dude> andi5, hmm.. well it seems to include updates to xserver-drivers... and im running this from an ssh session... i dont want to install these updates if they will make my computer not boot
[09:50] <billybennett> stefg, It's a Sager Laptop thats a couple months old
[09:51] <andi5> tortho: when you hit (hd <TAB> what does it list you?
[09:51] <stefg> ah, then it's the normal trouble with buggy acpi-tables...
[09:51] <JW> In Dapper, where should I put RealPlayer to share it with other users?
[09:51] <tortho> andi5: root (hd<tab> just echoes the same line..
[09:52] <LiteHedded> anyone?
[09:52] <dashriKe> what should I set up for approximate initial partitions for Ubuntu on a 80 GB hdd?
[09:52] <pppoe_dude> are they necessary andi5 ?
[09:52] <andi5> pppoe_dude: if you do not start/need x, why should ssh be unreachable just because x does not start? *onwdering*
[09:52] <jrib> !realplayer
[09:52] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:53] <jrib> JW: realplayer instructions are in the pages above ^
[09:53] <pppoe_dude> andi5, im fixing a friends computer
[09:53] <BCK14> grrrrr
[09:53] <zubeen> !apache
[09:53] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:53] <andi5> pppoe_dude: i would include it and hope that it works nonetheless (why should ssh stop to work?)
[09:54] <JW> jrib:  Thank you
[09:54] <pppoe_dude> andi5, i c.
[09:54] <BCK14> ubuntu is showing my usb mp3 player with 1.35mb of space yet it is 2gb and has just been restored using a windows box
[09:55] <pppoe_dude> andi5, what about kernel modules? will any new modules added to "/etc/modules" be affected by updating the kernel?
[09:55] <andi5> tortho: oh... maybe they removed readline support from grub? ...
[09:55] <andi5> pppoe_dude: hehe.... who knows :)
[09:56] <andi5> tortho: what about root (hd2,4) .... and alike, maybe up to 4... man it _must_ be somewhere ;-)
[09:56] <ntoll> hi is there any way to discover if the kernel I'm using (the standard Ubuntu kernel in dapper) has CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR enabled?
[09:56] <ntoll> when it was compiled that is
[09:56] <stefg> dashriKe: for standard use a 5GB root partiton should be enough, maybe put /var on separate 1-2 GB one and use the rest for /home
[09:56] <andi5> ntoll: check the config file in /boot
[09:57] <ntoll> andi5, ok
[09:57] <kalosaurusrex> the swap should be 2-3x system ram as well.
[09:57] <wiking>   " 1. Backup the Config.in and Makefile in the sound driver directory (/usr/src/linux/driver/sound)." how I can do it :((( i am a idiot!
[09:57] <stefg> this info is deprecated
[09:57] <LiteHedded> how do I see if my scsi card is supported?
[09:58] <ntoll> hmmm... so that is ok, then why isn't beagle
[09:58] <jouellette> join #xfire
[09:58] <andi5> ntoll: what is wrong with beagle?
[09:58] <ogami1972> aarrgghh! i
[09:59] <gepatino> does anybody knows the filesystem used in initrd.gz for the Desktop Live CD??
[09:59] <stefg> swapspace nowadays can be 256 MB on a desktop... Or make it big, and use tmpfs for /tmp and /var/temp
[09:59] <ogami1972> i disabled the onboard sound in bios, and now the default is my midi control device!
[09:59] <ntoll> it isn't finding any results... even when I search for things I know are there. It was working about a month ago (when I last used it). I'm trying to find out how I can see what has gone wrong. Step #1 is checking all the pre-requisits are in place (which they are). Step #2 ????
[09:59] <andi5> ntoll: you are sure that beagled is searching?
[09:59] <CarlFK> how can I extract the files from a .udeb?
[10:00] <andi5> ntoll: you need to check these bastards, they are lazy ;-)
[10:00] <CarlFK> (not install - I just want to look at them)
[10:00] <ntoll> andi5, how can I tell.... beagled is certainly in the process list
[10:00] <andi5> ntoll: i _think_ there was some *-properties dialog in the gnome control center
[10:00] <ntoll> aha
[10:00] <BCK14> Can someone look at this dmesg for me ?
[10:00] <ntoll> hadn't thought of that
[10:00] <BCK14> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16568
[10:01] <wiking>   " 1. Backup the Config.in and Makefile in the sound driver directory (/usr/src/linux/driver/sound)." how I can do it :((( i am a idiot!
[10:01] <andi5> BCK14: anything particular?
[10:01] <ogami1972> ok- i was setting up a MIDI control device, and now i can't set the default sound- it reverts whenever i close the window
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> hi all
[10:02] <trappist> wiking: first, what are you trying to do?
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> boot is too slow in new kernelll
[10:02] <tanlaan> can anyone tell me if this "make" was successful? http://pastebin.ca/72356
[10:02] <trappist> Aragorn_Guardian: what new kernel?
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> i see articles in ubuntuforuns but they dont help me...
[10:02] <BCK14> andi5: when i put my usb mp3 in, i cant add files to it, says its full yet i just cleared it from a winbox, same error before clearing it
[10:02] <andi5> Aragorn_Guardian: are we talking about minutes or seconds?
[10:02] <wiking> trappist: i want to install soundcard drivers
[10:02] <Aragorn_Guardian> Linux ServerNE 2.6.10-6-386 #1 Mon Jun 12 20:35:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:02] <trappist> tanlaan: yes
[10:03] <tanlaan> ok thanks
[10:03] <trappist> wiking: for what sound card?
[10:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> 3 min
[10:03] <JW> jrib: The information you referenced did not define where Ubuntu whants shared applications stored (ie: /usr/share, /usr/local/share, /usr/share/apps, /usr/share/applications, ?)  Currently have realplayer installed in personal directory.
[10:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> :/
[10:03] <greenbox> hey has anyone got wireless working on ubuntu?
[10:03] <tanlaan> so i can now "sudo make install" right?
[10:03] <andi5> Aragorn_Guardian: ever started os2 on a 486?
[10:03] <trappist> tanlaan: probably
[10:03] <tanlaan> ooook
[10:03] <tortho> andi5, I tryed all from root (hd1,4    and up to  (hd4,4   .... I also can mount the partition with my boot system on, and have read in the menu.lst that it was hd0,4 before...
[10:03] <ntoll> hmph... control center gives no joy... it's all set up to be indexing automatically
[10:03] <jrib> JW: it should have instructions for installed realplayer from a .deb though
[10:03] <tanlaan> thx
[10:03] <stefg> BCK14: what's the problem? (Apart from being unclever in having both hd's on the same IDE-Channel :-) )
[10:03] <jrib> installing*
[10:03] <CaptainRedbeard> Heyya guys, I could need a hand setting up my WiFi on boot under ubuntu...
[10:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> i have edited my grub.lst, acpi=of, etc
[10:03] <CaptainRedbeard> I'm totally clueless
[10:03] <wiking> trappist: SWEEX 5.1
[10:03] <Aragorn_Guardian> andi5: ???
[10:04] <CaptainRedbeard> now I do it manually with iwconfig... but...
[10:04] <greenbox> what kind of wireless card
[10:04] <moriuntur> Hi. I need some help with Grub. I have had Ubuntu beside Windows and finally removed Win. Now I mirrored my old root (hda3) to hda1. But I cant get Grub to boot from hda1. It still boots from hda3. Any suggestions? ...
[10:04] <BCK14> stefg: when i put my usb mp3 in, i cant add files to it, says its almost full yet i just cleared it from a winbox, same error before clearing it
[10:04] <greenbox> use a live cd
[10:04] <andi5> tortho: so you can root (hd0,4) and it tells you the file system? so what about  .... setup (hd0) and quit? :-D
[10:04] <gepatino> I need to customize a livecd, does anybody knows what filesystem is used for initrd in a standard dapper desktop cd?
[10:04] <CaptainRedbeard> greenbox: atheros... it's just the connection to the AP and the key I need to know where to input, what is the conf file for it on boot
[10:04] <wiking> trappist: i have CD but i don't know how to install it
[10:04] <BCK14> stefg: says 1.35mb left, yet its 2gb
[10:04] <ntoll> is there a beagled log I can view?
[10:04] <jrib> JW: if you really want to install it yourself though, it should go in /usr/local if it has a nice unix structure and /opt otherwise (that's how I interpret debian-policy manual anyway)
[10:04] <LeaChim> gepatino, squashfs i believe
[10:05] <andi5> ntoll: ~/.beagled or such?
[10:05] <adicts> how should i locate it?>
[10:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> andi5: sorry, i dont understand
[10:05] <CaptainRedbeard> anybody?
[10:05] <greenbox> give me a min
[10:05] <andi5> Aragorn_Guardian: ignore me, please, it will not help you anyway :)
[10:05] <_absolution_> why can't I find my fluxbox files??
[10:05] <BarryAllen> hi all
[10:05] <trappist> wiking: sweex makes sound cards?  are you 100% sure it's not already supported in ubuntu?
[10:05] <Aragorn_Guardian> andi5, ok... 8)
[10:05] <BarryAllen> any freak update broke my keyboard configuration....
[10:05] <Thug-N-Me> hi all
[10:05] <trappist> _absolution_: you're looking in the wrong place?
[10:05] <gepatino> LeaChim: squashfs is used for the root fs, is it also used to initrd?
[10:05] <stefg> BCK14: , what's the sticks mountpoint in /media ?
[10:05] <BarryAllen> maybe mylocales....
[10:05] <JW> jrib:  unable to install .deb   Had to down load .bin from RealPlayer  It installed it in ~/realplayer.  Want to move it into /usr/? for shared use.
[10:05] <ntoll> andi5, aha.... .beagle dir looks interesting
[10:05] <dli> gepatino, no, squashfs is not used for initrd
[10:06] <tanlaan> blah what happened with this install? http://pastebin.ca/72364
[10:06] <BCK14> stefg: /media/usbdisk
[10:06] <_absolution_> yeah? where should I look?
[10:06] <andi5> ntoll: i stopped beagle, because it searched _too much_, eating too much cpu
[10:06] <jrib> JW: which deb did you try?
[10:06] <andi5> ntoll: for me! but please use and improve it :)
[10:06] <trappist> tanlaan: the Makefile doesn't have an install rule.
[10:06] <tortho> andi5: don\t ask me why, now root (hd0, gives me a list.... how can i determine which partition is the right one..
[10:06] <LeaChim> gepatino, i think so. why don't you try mounting the initrd as a loopback and seeing what filesystem it gets mounted as?
[10:06] <_absolution_> it's not where it's supposed to be
[10:06] <trappist> tanlaan: ./moo
[10:06] <tanlaan> ok
[10:06] <JW> jrib:  apt-get install realplayer
[10:07] <trappist> _absolution_: a) what are you looking for and b) where are you looking for it
[10:07] <jrib> JW: what was the output?
[10:07] <Thug-N-Me> my box its so slow and almost doesnt respond anymore when i extract rar arhives even if i use command line its still the same, bassicly i cannot do anything else while i extract the files any ideea ?
[10:07] <andi5> tortho: take the number of /boot (sda5 -> 5), subtract by 1 (5 -> 4) and use that ... (hd0,4)
[10:07] <wiking> trappist: in CD is folder with drivers for all Windows & Linux
[10:07] <_absolution_> usr
[10:07] <gepatino> dli, LeaChim: mount doesnt mount it, need the -t parameter. I've tried with ext2 and ext3, but nothing... wrong fs type
[10:07] <greenbox> sorry captin im not sure
[10:07] <Thug-N-Me> i have 512 ram and 1 gb of swap
[10:07] <_absolution_> but not all the files are there
[10:07] <dli> gepatino, initrd usually uses gzipped ramfs, or gzipped cpio archives
[10:07] <greenbox> are u trying to use ndiswrapper?
[10:07] <tanlaan> trappist: this is what i got tanlaan@tanlaan:~/Desktop/MOO-1.8.1$ ./moo
[10:07] <tanlaan> Usage: ./moo [-e]  [-l log-file]  input-db-file output-db-file [port] 
[10:07] <trappist> andi5: sudo hdparm -d /dev/hdX where hdX is your hard drive
[10:07] <wiking> trappist: in Linux folder is readme file
[10:07] <kalosaurusrex> !moo
[10:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about moo
[10:07] <Thug-N-Me> soon i finish with the rar file my box its back to normal and application are working good (fast)
[10:07] <Tommy2k4> does "syslogd 1.4.1#17ubuntu7: restart." get added to /var/log/messages while booting up instead of while shutting down?
[10:07] <andi5> trappist: n/a
[10:07] <_absolution_> I looked for it using dpkg -L
[10:08] <Jonbo> moo: os: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition - Service Pack 1 (5.2.3790) uptime: 2wks 1day 22hrs 40mins 4secs cpu: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ at 2015MHz (11% Load) gfx: NVIDIA GeForce 6200 TurboCache(TM) 256MB res: 1280x1024 32bit 60Hz ram: 1793/2047.37MB (87.55%) [|||||||||-]  hdd: C:\ 62.68GB/122.07GB Free D:\ 64.05GB/110.81GB Free net: Microsoft TV_Video Connection - 30MB/s 7.46KB In, 0B Out
[10:08] <Thug-N-Me> any help ?
[10:08] <trappist> tanlaan: that's a usage statement.  it's telling you it wants arguments.
[10:08] <LeaChim> gepatino, try squash, cram. do man mount and try everything in the list
[10:08] <dli> gepatino, livecd? livecd is iso9660 fs, your kernel should have it by default
[10:08] <tortho> andi5: thanks, time for a reboot,.... crossing my fingers..
[10:08] <wiking> trappist: step1. Backup the Config.in and Makefile in the sound driver directory (/usr/src/linux/driver/sound).
[10:08] <trappist> andi5: n/a is the output?
[10:08] <jimcooncat> need bash help - want to start thunar in a script and save it's pid in a file?
[10:08] <gepatino> dli: ramfs didnt worked either... I dont know cpio, but i'll try
[10:08] <LeaChim> gepatino, oh, wait - it's gzipped isn't it? ungzip it and then try mounting
[10:08] <andi5> trappist: n/a = i am not the one you planned to wake up >:-|
[10:08] <gepatino> LeaChim: already unzipped it ;)
[10:08] <dli> gepatino, you want to mount initrd?
[10:08] <trappist> wiking: you're not going to have a /usr/src/linux/driver/sound
[10:08] <BCK14> stefg: corrupted mp3 filesystem or linux ?
[10:08] <_absolution_> I'm trying to put a wallpaper up
[10:08] <trappist> andi5: oh
[10:08] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> How do I reformat my cd-rw?
[10:08] <gepatino> dli: yes, i need to modify it
[10:08] <tanlaan> ooo so it wants me to type "./moo" then input all the stuff that it was asking for
[10:08] <LeaChim> gepatino, hmm. not sure then :P
[10:09] <jrib> _absolution_: what trouble are you having?
[10:09] <jrattner1> QUESTION: How can I make it so when a user deletes a message it is sent to a folder (OLDMAIL) instead of the Trash?
[10:09] <wiking> trappist: how i can do it?
[10:09] <stefg> BCK14: No the filesystem on the stick... it's probably fat32
[10:09] <trappist> _absolution_: Esetroot filename.png or .jpg etc.
[10:09] <BCK14> it is
[10:09] <JW> jrib:  tried to install it yesterday.  I beleive it said something about misssing modules.  I do not reacall details.  Should I remove and try reintall?
[10:09] <alleyoopster> anyone have any recommendations for a good amd64 motherboard?
[10:09] <BCK14> hmm
[10:09] <_absolution_> I'm trying to use fluxbox
[10:09] <dli> gepatino, first, why? you should generate it via make-kpkg, otherwise, it's guranteed not to greak down
[10:09] <_absolution_> and it's not working for me
[10:09] <BCK14> stefg: shall i try partition magic on xp?
[10:09] <trappist> wiking: first step, if it can be done at all, is sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:09] <andi5> jrattner1: you do not plan to read other peoples emails, right??
[10:09] <gepatino> dli: i'm customizing a livecd, for a very specific aplication
[10:09] <trappist> _absolution_: did you try Esetroot?
[10:09] <crocd> alleyoopster: I am using an asus a8n-sli
[10:10] <animato> !nvidia
[10:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:10] <stromham> !sound
[10:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:10] <_absolution_> no I didn't.....I'll try that
[10:10] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> I need help...How do I reformat my cd-rw?
[10:10] <jrib> JW: I would recommend that.  realplayer 8 is in the multiverse repository (which apt-get should fetch) but reralplayer 10 has deb and isntructions here if you would rather have that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RealplayerInstallationMethods
[10:10] <jrattner1> andi5, nope
[10:10] <alleyoopster> crocd: ok, i was looking at the asus a8v
[10:10] <greenbox> l
[10:11] <stefg> BCK14: get all files off and format it again with the utility of your choice... if it doesn't work, the flash-mem has reached it's lifecycle...
[10:11] <wiking> trappist: what?????? i am Linux user 2 hours. Can You say - what you mean?
[10:11] <alleyoopster> does your board have sata?
[10:11] <dashriKe> any reason an ASUS A7N8X Deluxe 2.0 would have problems with Ubuntu ethernet?
[10:11] <BCK14> stefg: i used the tool they provided, im pretty sure its linux error not hard drive error
[10:11] <JW> jrib:  Thank you  I will try that.
[10:11] <rod> hi, i changed network router, eacht time i reboot ubuntu i have to disactivate and then re-activate the ehternet connection in the network settings to have internet
[10:11] <crocd> alleyoopster: yep
[10:11] <greenbox> it might not ahve the drivers
[10:11] <rod> how to fix this for once and for all?
[10:11] <trappist> wiking: from 'sudo' on, just put what I said into a console and hit enter
[10:11] <gepatino> dli, LeaChim: It was a cpio file!!! thanks a lot
[10:11] <dli> gepatino, for user application? you can modify the squashfs, not initrd
[10:11] <andi5> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: does cd-rw mean that you can write it multiple times? or just that you can write it several times, but each time somewhere else, making earlier data unavailable? just tell me :)
[10:11] <_absolution_> where do I type that in?
[10:12] <stromham> !whois
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about whois
[10:12] <_absolution_> in the terminal?
[10:12] <stefg> BCK, is it  flash- or disk-based?
[10:12] <greenbox> if u are burning on a cd rw
[10:12] <trappist> _absolution_: yes
[10:12] <gepatino> dli: i need to modify the way the system is started for security reasons
[10:12] <stromham> !gnomeapi
[10:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about gnomeapi
[10:12] <stromham> dang
[10:12] <crocd> alleyoopster: I a have a 300gb sata can put in up to 4gb of ram, dual core amd 4200 etc.
[10:12] <gepatino> dli: its a kind of 'voting' livecd
[10:12] <greenbox> but if its just on a cd r its only once unless its multisestion
[10:12] <_absolution_> all one word?
[10:12] <LeaChim> gepatino, no problem
[10:12] <BCK14> stefg: disk, its just linux is showing wrong space available
[10:12] <BCK14> i think
[10:12] <alleyoopster> crocd: i am a little confused about sata. trying to find out if the a8v can run sata2 disks?
[10:12] <dli> gepatino, anyway, no need to do it ubuntu, do it gentoo
[10:12] <rod> please, what's the command line for setting the network up?
[10:13] <greenbox> dhcp config
[10:13] <gepatino> dli: just feel confortable with ubuntu :)
[10:13] <greenbox> maybe
[10:13] <andi5> rod: /etc/init.d/network start, or ifup eth0 (s/eth0/wlan0)
[10:13] <rod> andi5, i mean more like for configuring
[10:13] <wiking> trappist: console say: "wiking is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[10:13] <gepatino> dli: thanks for the tip, it was a cpio file
[10:13] <trappist> _absolution_: say your wallpaper file is /home/absolution/mypic.jpg.  you'd say Esetroot /home/absolution/mypic.jpg
[10:13] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> andi5: In windows I used to be able to delete anything I wanted to on the cd-rw and write to it whenever I wanted to. But Iam sorta new to linux so I dont know how to do it.
[10:13] <rod> andi5, the gnome tool wont save, after a rboot it has the old settings again
[10:13] <andi5> XxXBrAnDoNXxX: it is ok, i just did not know :)
[10:13] <trappist> wiking: is this an ubuntu machine?
[10:13] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> lol
[10:13] <kristian> someone know famous here?
[10:13] <wiking> trappist: yes
[10:13] <XxXBrAnDoNXxX> :)
[10:13] <gepatino> dli: now i'll go back to breaking things ;) thks
[10:14] <CaptainRedbeard> doesn't anybody have any experience with setting up a WEP "protected" wifi connection under ubuntu? or to get it up under boot that is?
[10:14] <shae2liberty> Hi, does anyone here know howto install cifs on ubuntu. I want to network the drive like i can in freenas so i can edit php files easily
[10:14] <trappist> wiking: is it *your* ubuntu machine?
[10:14] <dli> gepatino, can you get ubuntu livecd on usb?
[10:14] <wiking> trappist: yes
[10:14] <trappist> wiking: the user created during the install is in the sudoers file.  can you become that user?
[10:14] <gepatino> dli: I guess so... let me see if I have a link here...
[10:14] <CarlFK> in a udeb, what defines the dependencies ?
[10:14] <wiking> trappist: root?
[10:14] <shae2liberty> Hi, does anyone here know howto install cifs on ubuntu. I want to network the drive like i can in freenas so i can edit php files easily
[10:14] <trappist> wiking: that's not what I mean, but if you can become root, that helps
[10:15] <stefg> BCK14: you could try to 'sudo umount /media/usbdisk && sudo fsck.vfat' and see if it yields errors
[10:15] <Wipster> good evning all, just downloaded and burt the 6.06 cd, I chose to start or install ubuntu, it loads with everything ok, then screen goes black with curser flashing then goes totaly black and stops making any cd noise, is it a display bug and is there a work around?
[10:15] <andi5> rod: if you know the details, try to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[10:15] <wiking> trappist: on general screen i cant login like root, where i can log?
[10:15] <tortho> andi5:  Damn, still grub error 17..
[10:15] <dli> gepatino, I tried, but the initrd seeks only cd for root not usb
[10:15] <danfg> in rhel3, i used to start and stop services by typing like "service mysql start", how is it done in ubuntu?
[10:15] <andi5> tortho: which filesystem has /boot?
[10:16] <trappist> wiking: in a console, type "su -" and enter the root password.
[10:16] <tortho> andi5: ext3..
[10:16] <gepatino> dli: maybe you need to modify initrd
[10:16] <nickrud> danfg, update-rc.d
[10:16] <gepatino> dli: i've found this, but did't try it yet: http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/USB_Based_FAQ
[10:16] <rod> tx andi5 gonna try some changes, bbl
[10:16] <dli> gepatino, could be tricky scripts, but debian cd works auto on usb
[10:16] <andi5> tortho: in the end of my old computer (bought new one last week), grub ceased to work for me too..... needed to start from floppy
[10:16] <BCK14> ok stefg
[10:16] <nickrud> danfg, erm, invoke-rc.d I mean, update is for setting links.
[10:17] <crocd> alleyoopster: I cant see anything on their site, when was it released?
[10:17] <andi5> tortho: maybe there is some flaky grub outside :)
[10:17] <danfg> nickrud: thanks :)
[10:17] <tortho> andi5:  ive googled for this error 17... and there is some strange issues with this grub error 17... i\ll reinstall..
[10:18] <christian_> Does anybodoy know how to force a console install for Ubuntu 6.06 LTS Desktop ?
[10:18] <andi5> tortho: good luck! and maybe try to boot as soon as possible, so that you do not lose time while adjusting your desktop :)
[10:18] <Ng> christian_: use the alternate install cd image
[10:18] <nickrud> christian_, use the alternate cd ;)
[10:18] <christian_> okay thank you
[10:18] <alleyoopster> crocd: http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=68&model=478&modelmenu=1 not sure when it was release
[10:19] <tortho> andi5 thanks... i was trying to free up some space to try qemu.... to run edgy in it..
[10:19] <_absolution_> how do you remove desktop enviroments?
[10:19] <gepatino> dli: have to go now, if i make it work I'll look for you to tell you how i made it
[10:19] <_absolution_> I wanna remove KDE and Enlightenment
[10:19] <trappist> TheoMurpse: hdparm -d /dev/hdX where hdX is your hard drive
[10:19] <eitch_> !qemu
[10:19] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[10:19] <dli> gepatino, great, thanks
[10:19] <TheoMurpse> I just installed ubuntu and cannot get a connection on my network. I try with a static IP as in "ifconfig eth0 192.168.40.103" and get the IP, but cannot even ping my router/gateway (192.168.40.1). When I try with DHCP (via the Gnome network setup default on ubuntu) I never get an IP. When I try from the command line "dhclient eth0", I have something like "DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 192.168.40.1 on port 67 interval 8" or something repeated about 8 times wi
[10:19] <TheoMurpse> th different intervals, and then something like "no lease acquired error" or something like that. Any idea how to fix?
[10:19] <TheoMurpse> trappist, wrong person ;)
[10:19] <alleyoopster> other sites mention sata raid for this board, but I was looking at sata2 disk support
[10:19] <trappist> dangit
[10:19] <nickrud> _absolution_, for kde, remove libqt-mt3 ; for enlightenment , no easy clue
[10:19] <trappist> Thug-N-Me: hdparm -d /dev/hdX where hdX is your hard drive
[10:19] <trappist> there
[10:20] <jrattner1> QUESTION: How can I make it so when a user deletes a message it is sent to a folder (OLDMAIL) instead of the Trash in Mozilla Thunderbird?
[10:20] <stefg> TheoMurpse: I think it's the routers prob, not ubuntus
[10:20] <BCK14> stefg: says the usuage commands
[10:20] <TheoMurpse> stefg: I get an IP with the same computer through Windows XP, so I doubt that.
[10:20] <andi5> _absolution_: if you have kubuntu-desktop, deselect that
[10:20] <crocd> alleyoopster: it looks like it was first released in 2004. it should be OK if they have updated it for sata2 if not a bios update should fix it.
[10:21] <nickrud> jrattner1, you'll probably have better luck on a thunderbird channel
[10:21] <shae2liberty> Hi, does anyone here know howto install cifs on ubuntu. I want to network the drive like i can in freenas so i can edit php files easily
[10:21] <trappist> TheoMurpse: it's behaving like there's no network connectivity whatsoever.  it's broadcasting for a dhcp lease but nothing ever answers back.
[10:21] <max_bell> Howdy, all. (reading common questions)
[10:21] <stefg> BCK14: sry the command is sudo fsck.vfat /dev/hda1
[10:21] <_absolution_> I want to remove it completely
[10:21] <BCK14> ok
[10:21] <alleyoopster> crocd: thanks, that is good news
[10:21] <stefg> BCK14: sry the command is *sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sda1*
[10:21] <TheoMurpse> trappist, so do you have any idea? It's not a hardware problem (router, and computer's ethernet card both work when XP is running instead of Ubuntu). What could it be?
[10:21] <BCK14> now no such directory
[10:21] <andi5> _absolution_: depends on what you mean.... say you still want to use k3b, then you will still need qt3
[10:21] <Wipster> anyone got any advice on the black screen instal problem, any work arounds, I'm using a 9800XT
[10:21] <BCK14> because i umounted it
[10:21] <trappist> TheoMurpse: what kind of nic?
[10:21] <crocd> alleyoopster: check with a local resleller if you want to be sure but that is my insight on it
[10:22] <erUSUL> shae2liberty: cifs is a module of the kernel you do not have to install nothing you have to mount it with mount (man mount)
[10:22] <TheoMurpse> I have on idea what to do. It worked once right after installing, but I never changed any settings (aside from installing random unrelated programs such as VLC) and now it doesn't work.
[10:22] <trappist> TheoMurpse: also, does the machine maybe have another nic and you're referring to the wrong device?
[10:22] <crocd> trappist: sounds like driver issue to me
[10:22] <JanKassens> i just installed ndisgtk (gui for ndiswrapper), where can i start it?
[10:22] <alleyoopster> crocd: yeah will do, technology moves fast, hard to keep up with everything
[10:22] <trappist> crocd: yeah, like maybe driver loading issue
[10:22] <max_bell> Is there a way to install ubuntu from DOS, or using a flat-file installation, rather than a CD?
[10:22] <trappist> or the order the drivers are loading
[10:22] <TheoMurpse> trappist, no. I only have one card with one input.
[10:23] <erUSUL> shae2liberty: i spoked too fast it seems that mount does not support cifs maybe smbmount?
[10:23] <trappist> TheoMurpse: so, back to my original question - what kind of nic?
[10:23] <crocd> TheoMurpse: what hardware is listed
[10:23] <TheoMurpse> realtek 87something or 8397 or something
[10:23] <bbrazil> max_bell: I *think* there is (not nessecarily an official ubuntu thing) Have you considered netbooting?
[10:23] <_absolution_> so I'll lose some of the programs associated with KDE?
[10:23] <TheoMurpse> I'll check.
[10:24] <trappist> TheoMurpse: lspci | grep Network
[10:24] <max_bell> bb: Um, not connected to a network -- have a cisco wireless card and drivers, but I'm not sure that's what you mean.
[10:24] <andi5> TheoMurpse: i have never used dhcp, but do not you need to ifconfig eth0 up, if you want to dhcpclient it?
[10:24] <dooglus> _absolution_: don't see it as losing programs, see it as gaining free disk space
[10:24] <nickrud> max_bell, the wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation has a bunch of methods linked; one is floppy & harddisk
[10:24] <crocd> trappist: Realtek chould be in the kernel i did a few kernel compiles recently and I saw drivers listed for it
[10:24] <fluffi> Hi, how does a version update under ubuntu work? (is there any documentation for this?)
[10:24] <max_bell> Thanks, nick!
[10:24] <trappist> crocd: yeah lots of realtek cards are supported
[10:24] <kibab> anybody know a repository that houses maven (the java build tool)?
[10:24] <eobanb_> !tell fluffi about upgrade
[10:25] <_absolution_> yeah that's why I wanna get rid of the KDE and Enlightenment desktop
[10:25] <nickrud> max_bell, yw. I'd be interested in how you did it
[10:25] <dooglus> _absolution_: did you ever use debfoster?  It's very good at cleaning out packages you no longer need.  see particularly the 'p' command.
[10:25] <nickrud> _absolution_, removing that lib will rip all of kde out, done it before more than once
[10:26] <TheoMurpse> andi5: eth0 is already up.
[10:26] <TheoMurpse> up with no IP
[10:26] <_absolution_> that's libqt-mt3 right?
[10:27] <TheoMurpse> trappist, I can't run linux (since no network), but XP says it's a GVC-Realtek 10/100 PCI Adapter
[10:27] <nickrud> _absolution_, yes. and deb-foster is an old, reliable tool :)
[10:27] <trappist> TheoMurpse: that kinda sucks.  doesn't tell us what model.  you can get the device id from the registry, which would answer that critical question, but I don't recall where it is, and how to find it isn't appropriate for this channel
[10:27] <TheoMurpse> If you can promise you'll be here in 3 minutes, I'll boot into linux and grep it, but I did that yesterday, and the guy who was helping me disappeared while I was switching OSes ;)
[10:28] <TheoMurpse> Be right back.
[10:28] <trappist> TheoMurpse: I'll be here
[10:28] <TheoMurpse> trappist, thanks.
[10:28] <crocd> trappist: you still hang out in mandriva?
[10:28] <trappist> unless I step out for a smoke
[10:28] <PMantis> I installed ssmtp, but nothing is listening on port 25. How do I restart it?
[10:28] <gostview> hi all, I try to configure Gnash, I got this output errore: configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure
[10:28] <gostview> can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find
[10:28] <gostview> them either.
[10:28] <gostview> anyone can help me plz?
[10:28] <trappist> crocd: nah
[10:28] <_absolution_> what command will I use?
[10:28] <neutrinomass> gostview: Don't install from the sources, install from the repositories :)
[10:28] <max_bell> Nick -- talks about using rawwrite to create a boot floppy, then loading the install files from that disk.
[10:29] <max_bell> Off to try this. Thanks, all!
[10:29] <crocd> trappist: i kinda dropped off the radar a bit due tosystem rebuild and work. Only recently got back with a shiny new amd64 dual core beast
[10:29] <BCK14> how do i remove what linux already knows about a usb drive,
[10:29] <BCK14> ?
[10:29] <nickrud> _absolution_, in truth, that does about 95%. KDE apps do pull in other stuff that won't get ripped that way; debfoster takes time but it'll purge every last thing
[10:29] <crocd> BCK14: why?
[10:29] <LiquidNerd_work> What is the latest unstable? I can't find anything on the site other than dapper
[10:29] <gostview> neutrinomass>I can't find it in repository...
[10:30] <BCK14> crocd: it is showing incorrect freespace
[10:30] <nickrud> LiquidNerd_work, edgy eft
[10:30] <BCK14> shows free space 675kb yet there is 1.87gb free
[10:30] <trappist> gostview: sudo apt-get install libxext-dev
[10:30] <crocd> BCK14: is it mounting ok
[10:30] <gostview> neutrinomass>ok
[10:30] <BCK14> same everytim it mounts
[10:30] <shwag> Does the turn-key LAMP do anything besides: apt-get install apache mysql php ?
[10:30] <gostview> trappist> ok tnx
[10:30] <BCK14> it auto mounts
[10:30] <LiquidNerd_work> so I should replace my dapper with edgy for testing and eft for unstable?
[10:30] <BCK14> no errors crocd
[10:31] <crocd> unmounty it manually and then try to remount it. Or check your /etc/fstab
[10:31] <ubuntuzire72> hi, i have one harddrive with ubuntu installed on it. if i want to dual boot with Damn small linux, how would i do so?
[10:31] <nickrud> LiquidNerd_work, no, that's the full name; the repo is edgy
[10:31] <LiquidNerd_work> ahhh
[10:31] <BCK14> croc have unmounted it manually no difference
[10:31] <LiquidNerd_work> where is it on the site? I must be retarded
[10:31] <BCK14> what should i look for in fstab?
[10:31] <BCK14> it only has my windows drives i think?
[10:31] <Flannel> LiquidNerd_work: and, at the moment, edgy is completely unstable, not just testing.  No guarentees its in a workable state at any time
[10:31] <crocd> BCK14: iwhat does your /etc/fstab say
[10:31] <stefg> BCK14: it doesn't work that way :-)... it's a filesystem problem, did fsck tell anythin?
[10:32] <neutrinomass> gostview: Sorry, my bad. Indeed it appears not to be in the repos :(
[10:32] <BCK14> fsck ?
[10:32] <LiquidNerd_work> Flannel: I used to run Sid all the time
[10:32] <ubuntuzire72> hi, i have one harddrive with ubuntu installed on it. if i want to dual boot with Damn small linux, how would i do so?
[10:32] <_absolution_> oh crap....I forgot about xfce4....how do I remove that too
[10:32] <gostview> neutrinomass> n p
[10:32] <nickrud> I'll start exploring when it's about a month out I think
[10:32] <BCK14> crocd: whats fsck ?
[10:32] <crocd> BCK14: cat /etc/fstab, that will output all your partions
[10:32] <leftist> anyone know anywhere i can host a domain free?
[10:32] <BCK14> ok
[10:32] <crocd> fsck is file system check
[10:32] <pike_> ubuntuzire72: you would need some free space on a HD to create a partition for dsl
[10:33] <ubuntuzire72> pike: i have about 15gb free, how do i create partions?
[10:33] <trappist> leftist: wrong channel
[10:33] <steveire> ubuntuzire72: resize your partition to leave some space, then use that space for DSL
[10:33] <nickrud> _absolution_, debfoster. Then, use aptitude to install, it'll track dependencies automatically & do all this for you.
[10:33] <gostview> trappist> ok, new error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16570 could you help me?
[10:33] <ubuntuzire72> steveire: how would i do that?
[10:33] <crocd> BCK14: that is only used if the drive or partition is corrupt or problems are known/detected
[10:33] <BCK14> ok crocd
[10:33] <_absolution_> k thanks
[10:33] <steveire> I use a partition tool on hirens boot cd, but you can use parted in ubuntu
[10:34] <trappist> gostview: read the error message carefully.  it tells you what package to install.
[10:34] <crocd> ubuntulog: : fdisk /dev/hda4
[10:34] <ubuntuzire72> steveire: where do i go to access that?
[10:34] <BCK14> crocd: will pastebin it now
[10:34] <trappist> gostview: error messages are your friends.
[10:34] <nickrud> _absolution_, have you ever used apt-cache? You'll want to read descriptions & try to identify the stuff debfoster asks about.
[10:34] <BCK14> !paste
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:35] <steveire> eh, dunno, I've never used parted
[10:35] <s|k> is there any way to reset screen resolutoin from the console?
[10:35] <steveire> !parted
[10:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about parted
[10:35] <concept10> Anyone know about an GNOME app thats close to Quicksilver on OS X?
[10:35] <nickrud> !info parted
[10:35] <ubotu> parted: The GNU Parted disk partition resizing program. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.6.25.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 79 kB, installed size 172 kB
[10:35] <steveire> I'd recommend you download hirens boot cd
[10:35] <NickGarvey> whats quicksivlver o
[10:35] <NickGarvey> do*
[10:35] <NickGarvey> silver do*
[10:35] <BCK14> crocd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16571
[10:35] <steveire> It's really got some great stuff on it
[10:35] <concept10> NickGarvey, app switcher/launcher
[10:35] <gostview> trappist> ok, I read carefully now
[10:35] <VitaminG> has anyone here tried compiling the intel modem drivers in dapper?
[10:35] <steveire> It has partition magic on it, but you should avoid that. It doesn't play nice with linux
[10:35] <NickGarvey> concept10: like.. a run window?
[10:35] <NickGarvey> concept10: alt f2
[10:36] <pike_> s|k: console resolution or xserver res?
[10:36] <steveire> I've heard that a lot, but I also learned it for myself :(
[10:36] <ubuntuzire72> steveire: i'll give it a shot if i cant get this parted thing to work
[10:36] <s|k> pike_: xserver
[10:36] <concept10> NickGarvey, more like Alt f2 and alt-tab combined
[10:36] <NickGarvey> concept10: heh, why not use both?
[10:37] <fowlduck> which works best for video playback in firefox: Totem Gstreamer, Totem Xine, or MPlayer?
[10:37] <TheoMurps> trappist, It is a realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev10). I also tried the dhclient again to see exactly what it said as it tried to get an IP, and it said DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67, interval 7. Does this mean it doesn't know the IP of the DHCP server?
[10:37] <NickGarvey> concept10: I dunno I'm sorry I use kde
[10:37] <nickrud> none work best
[10:37] <concept10> NickGarvey, I do.  You should just see quicksilver
[10:37] <fowlduck> TheoMurps, it never knows the IP of the DHCP server.
[10:37] <trappist> TheoMurps: sudo modprobe 8139cp
[10:37] <fowlduck> TheoMurps, that is, until it receives an address
[10:37] <kristian> !mp3
[10:37] <TheoMurps> trappist, it is loaded.
[10:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:37] <majd> what's the numerical equivalent to -rwxrwxr-x ?
[10:38] <Fiya_werkin> has anyone gotten e17 to work on dapper?
[10:38] <dli> majd, 775
[10:38] <TheoMurps> trappist, I tried that yesterday and if I do lsmod, 8139cp is already there.
[10:38] <crocd> BCK14: what does df  command output
[10:38] <trappist> TheoMurps: it doesn't need to know the ip of the dhcp server - it broadcasts, and any dhcp server on the network can respond
[10:38] <BCK14> crocd:
[10:38] <gostview> trappist> ok I install the libsdl1.2-dev, but I can't find the right command for OGG Vorbis
[10:38] <BCK14> olid@olid-desktop:~$ ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 7972, errno = 0
[10:38] <nickrud> majd, http://www.robolink.com/calculators10.htm is a decent tool
[10:38] <trappist> TheoMurps: then try sudo modprobe -r 8139cp (to unload it) and sudo modprobe 8139too (to try an alternate driver)
[10:38] <BCK14> that error came up at the end in terminal crocd
[10:38] <Jerr> hey im looking to compile a kernel module (driver), and I'm getting this error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[10:38] <udo> how can i use my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu?
[10:38] <majd> thanks nickrud
[10:39] <BarryAllen> anyone have problems using c and acents on ubuntu?
[10:39] <trappist> gostview: try libogg0-dev and libvorbis-dev
[10:39] <BarryAllen> ?
[10:39] <nickrud> majd, I use that fairly often, I am no sys admin ;)
[10:39] <BarryAllen> hehehe im getting accentueds c's ehheeh
[10:39] <majd> haha i'll add it to my bookmarks
[10:39] <TheoMurps> trappist, I will try that and then boot back to XP with my results (or hopefully not have to reboot, and be able to let you know via ubuntu if it works)
[10:39] <kristian> Is there a audiplayer which can play all the formats working on windows, and not on ubuntu?
[10:39] <trappist> TheoMurps: cool
[10:39] <hortian> hey folks, I just upgraded to dapper drake (from 5.10), and my sound stopped working ... I have a Dell Inspiron D610 with an Intel ICH6 card ... I checked the web but all the people with similar problems seem to be fine with the latest ubuntu ... any ideas?
[10:40] <trappist> TheoMurps: hang on a sec...
[10:40] <pike_> s|k: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.con
[10:40] <trappist> TheoMurps: after doing both of those, type 'dmesg' and have a look at the output
[10:40] <udo> how can i use my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu?
[10:40] <pike_> s|k: xorg.conf
[10:40] <dli> kristian, why asking in #ubuntu ?
[10:41] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu?
[10:41] <kristian> i asked a little worng i think... Is there a mediaplayer which can play mp3, wma, and the formats that's working in windows?
[10:41] <Lamego> !mp3 > kristian
[10:41] <Jerr> I'm trying to install the spca5xx module
[10:42] <Lamego> kristian playing sounds is not only about the player but also about the codecs, there are some formats which can't be played on linux due to legal reasons
[10:42] <dli> Lamego, kristian was asking for, "which can play all the formats working on windows, and not on ubuntu"
[10:43] <kristian> dli, that was written totally wrong
[10:43] <Jerr> the INSTALL file just tells me to make clean; make; make install (as root)
[10:43] <Lamego> dli, he wanted to mean, to play on ubuntu what he plays on windows
[10:43] <gostview> trappist> ok, it has gone... now got error with make :(
[10:43] <mog_> does anyone know whether ubuntu 6.06 has madwifi or madwifi-ng as the atheros drivers, or alternatively, how i could find out?
[10:43] <kOpter> I've got kernel panic when trying to boot: 2.6.15-25-686 , 15-20 works without a problem..
[10:43] <Jack_Smirnoff> Not everything you can play on windows will play on linux
[10:43] <skavenge> are synaptic installation errors logged somewhere? where is it?
[10:43] <dli> kristian, hehe, smart question
[10:44] <stefg> kOpter: welcome to the club :-)
[10:44] <kristian> dli, u are from?
[10:44] <kOpter> It gives me something like it can't uncompress the kernel to RAM. Anyone ideas why or where to look?
[10:44] <Lamego> skavenge, usually they are reported on the console, run it from a terminal
[10:44] <Dapallo> hey, i need some help installing 'audacity_1.2.1-1_i386.deb'
[10:44] <kimo> Can I get the regular text installer from the Desktop/Live CD ?
[10:44] <dli> kristian, why does it matter? but I'm chinese
[10:44] <kOpter> stefg> Known issue?
[10:44] <Lamego> kimo, no, you will need the alternate CD
[10:44] <kimo> ok thnx
[10:44] <kimo> Dapallo: just ask ?
[10:45] <lib8264q> hello channel :)
[10:45] <Dapallo> just ask?
[10:45] <dli> kOpter, most likely, you have to reinstall the kernel package
[10:45] <Jerr> !ask
[10:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:45] <skavenge> i've already run it graphically and got an error installing a package, doesn't synaptic log these things in a logfile?
[10:45] <kristian> dli, ooh..:P thought you maybe was norwegian because u write "hehe", i usually don't see englishmen or chinese write that :P
[10:45] <Dapallo> lol, okay, how do i install it
[10:45] <stefg> kOpter: -25 is full of issues ... actually i can't imagine how a junk-kernel could ever get out of the door
[10:45] <kOpter> dli, just apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 ?
[10:46] <kOpter> Because I think that won't solve it :)
[10:46] <PseudoPlacebo> When I'm installing Ubuntu from the dapper (live)CD. How do I tell it to install using Lilo. And in the partition manager how I change which partition has the boot flag.
[10:46] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu?
[10:46] <lib8264q> if i download kde-core desktop for friend (havent got inet connection) if i copy it onto cd what command can i use to install it on there pc ....
[10:46] <gostview> trappist> many errors: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16573
[10:46] <Dapallo> how do i install audacity_1.2.1-1_i386.deb
[10:47] <kimo> Dapallo: apt-get install audacity
[10:47] <Dapallo> tried that but it said it couldnt find it
[10:47] <kimo> Dapallo: put sudo infront of that :)
[10:47] <trappist> gostview: libjpeg62-dev
[10:47] <dli> kristian, anyway, get restricted formats, totem can play almost everything, but no DRM, of course
[10:47] <crocd> BCK14: you still there?
[10:47] <Dapallo> is there a certain place i have to put audacity_1.2.1-1_i386.deb
[10:47] <kimo> Dapallo: u need to add universe repository
[10:47] <Dapallo> how
[10:47] <kimo> !universe
[10:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:47] <lib8264q> any advice ?
[10:47] <TheoMurps> trappist, I lsmod and actulaly have both 8139cp and 8139too loaded at startup. Could that be the problem? It is whatever ubuntu installer set up for me automatically.
[10:47] <kimo> Dapallo: got that
[10:47] <dli> kOpter, boot with a working kernel, sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.15
[10:47] <Dapallo> yeah
[10:47] <Dapallo> hold on
[10:48] <heman> what's a great package for disk partitioning?
[10:48] <skavenge> gparted
[10:48] <_absolution_> is there a "centipede" like game out there for linux?
[10:48] <kimo> heman: fdisk
[10:48] <Dial_tone> gparted
[10:48] <TheoMurps> _absolution_, I wouldn't be surprised if there was one called Centipede
[10:48] <Dapallo> wait... okay, im new at linux, so i dont know what you mean by !universe
[10:48] <Jerr> !deb > Dapallo
[10:48] <adicts> alright i could not use apt get to install "nv" it said E: invalid operation xserver, E: could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock-open (13 permission denied) E: unable to lock the list directory
[10:48] <Jack_Sparrow> I found a great tool, a live cd that has gparted on it.. great ISO to have around
[10:48] <PseudoPlacebo> When I'm installing Ubuntu from the dapper (live)CD. How do I tell it to install using Lilo. And in the partition manager how I change which partition has the boot flag.
[10:48] <dli> kOpter, if it fails again, and always works with another kernel, ask here again
[10:48] <lib8264q> anyone ?
[10:48] <kimo> Dapallo: see the reply from ubotu !!
[10:49] <Dapallo> yeah, i just did
[10:49] <dli> adicts, you need to run like: sudo apt-get install foo
[10:49] <kimo> Dapallo: so did u read the website ?
[10:49] <gatekeeper> PseudoPlacebo: I think it is when you get to set 5 or 6 in the wizard you can set up your partitions, I think there is another iso if you want more control
[10:49] <adicts> i did
[10:49] <Minty> can I get the back and front buttons to work on my mouse ??*
[10:50] <trappist> TheoMurps: the first driver loaded that supports your device is the one that will be used for it.  so, unload (modprobe -r) both of them and try one at a time
[10:50] <skavenge> !paste
[10:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:50] <TheoMurps> trappist, I will do that now. Thanks.
[10:50] <kOpter> dli: get : debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog right away
[10:50] <Dapallo> kimo: it just opens an archieve of the files in side it
[10:50] <kimo> Dapallo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu (Read the universe part)
[10:50] <lib8264q> if i download a kde-core desktop  for my friend who hasent go an inet connection if i burn the files to disk what command can i use to install it on there system
[10:50] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu?
[10:50] <Flannel> !tell Minty about mouse
[10:50] <dli> adicts, you have synaptic running? close it first, and try again
[10:51] <adicts> i used sudo apt_get install xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[10:51] <stefg> !winmodem
[10:51] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:51] <stefg> ^^udo^^
[10:51] <dli> adicts, apt-get
[10:51] <adicts> no it wasnt runnign
[10:51] <adicts> yeah i messed up
[10:51] <Minty> flannel: reading thanks
[10:52] <kimo> dapper kernel sucks :) doesnt poweroff my laptop, sky2 network card hangs daily ... yuck ... can I install suse kernel on dapper?
[10:52] <skavenge> I get this error trying to install crystalcursors, any help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16574
[10:52] <adicts> do i need to have the cd in? or will it get it online
[10:52] <lib8264q> anyone an answer to a ?
[10:52] <dli> kimo, you can build your own kernel
[10:52] <Jerr> I don't have a /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build directory, and I apparently need that directory
[10:52] <erUSUL> kimo: you can download the suse sources and compile it
[10:52] <dli> kimo, but dapper sucks more than its kernel
[10:52] <stefg> kimo, no... but you could try (at your own risk) a kanotix kernel... comes as a .deb
[10:53] <mog_> sorry, afk for a min'ed, did anyone reply with regards to the madwifi drivers?
[10:53] <erUSUL> Jerr: have you installed kernel-headers?
[10:53] <kimo> stefg: interesting, where do I download please ?
[10:53] <gatekeeper> kimo there is a howto build your own kernel in the ubuntu forums
[10:53] <Flannel> kimo: you can build your own, and add in whatever you'd like
[10:53] <Jerr> erUSUL: I think so
[10:53] <fatlip> how do i disable "lp"? i'm trying to use parport0 in vmware but its telling me its in use by the lp driver
[10:53] <kimo> erUSUL: cant I just alien the rpm /
[10:53] <stefg> http://kanotix.com
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Ouch..
[10:53] <dli> kimo, don't do that :(
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Kimo.. Nooooo
[10:53] <Jerr> oh
[10:53] <kimo> ?!
[10:53] <lib8264q> anyone ?????
[10:53] <kimo> will it explode ? ;)
[10:53] <stefg> Just for testing.....
[10:53] <Jerr> I think I installed only for 686, when I have 386
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MOre like full meltdown
[10:54] <erUSUL> kimo: maybe it works maybe not... i can not know for sure.
[10:54] <kimo> lib8264q: double click it ?
[10:54] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu? (f200 cryto)
[10:54] <dli> kimo, no, it doesn't explode, instead it sucks
[10:54] <gostview> trappist> only one: make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[10:54] <lib8264q> dont know thats why im asking ....
[10:54] <lib8264q> lol
[10:54] <mog_> more generally, how do i check what ver. of a specific driver I do have?
[10:55] <kimo> lib8264q: also maybe 'sudo dpkg -i *deb' beware of dependencies
[10:55] <Flannel> lib8264q: just ask your question, if someone knows the answer, they'll askwer it
[10:55] <stefg> kimo: but you'll have to edit your /boot/grub/men.lst manually.... nothing is autoconfigured
[10:55] <Jerr> hm, I have the headers installed
[10:55] <lib8264q> yep iv checked that out thanks ...
[10:55] <kimo> stefg: yeah no problem
[10:55] <Patrick__> hi all
[10:55] <Patrick__> I have a problem with Automatix
[10:55] <Jerr> but it only shows up on 686
[10:55] <kimo> !tell Patrick__ about automatix
[10:55] <Patrick__> when I run apt-get update it gives me the following error towards automatix...
[10:55] <trappist> squiggly: please don't do that
[10:56] <Viking> can anyone help me to uninstall linux?
[10:56] <mog> lol
[10:56] <Lobster> gn8
[10:56] <squiggly> yes, xchat is a little ew
[10:56] <kimo> Viking: format the partition from Windows? (then  fixmbr from Winxp boot CD) ?
[10:56] <dli> Viking, what do you mean "uninstall" ?
[10:56] <seamoon> Is there a way to convert my old windowsfiles, like movies etc to ext3 filesystem?
[10:56] <Lamego> seamoon, backup them and reformat the partitition
[10:56] <mikerobi> how do get a keyboard shortcut to trigger xkill in gnome?
[10:56] <trappist> seamoon: just copy them over.  files don't need to be converted
[10:56] <dli> seamoon, easier way, backup them, mkfs, and cp them back
[10:57] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu? (f200 cryto)
[10:57] <gostview> trappist> give me last hand: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16575
[10:57] <Patrick__> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix dapper release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 19N52FE3521A9C7C Justin Hayes (Automatix Repository Master) <wildtagent@w1ldt4ng3nt.net>
[10:57] <seamoon> But my NTFS-drives can't be mounted so I can't get access to the fiules on them...
[10:57] <Patrick__> anyone know how to solve this issue?
[10:57] <Viking> i have windows on the other partition... i wont to reformat the ext3 partition back to ntfs... but the grub inicializer gives a error message at the start
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> seamoon: My ntfs are mounted as read only and work fine
[10:58] <trappist> gostview: libpng3-dev and/or libpng12-dev
[10:58] <Patrick__> W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix dapper release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 19N52FE3521A9C7C Justin Hayes (Automatix Repository Master) <wildtagent@w1ldt4ng3nt.net>                                   anyone know how to solve this issue?
[10:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Viking: why not just use windows/fdisk and kill the ext3
[10:58] <CarlFK> can someone explain why my box cries out for a file (using wget) that doesn't exit?  I have spent about 2 hours searching for the bad file name, and have no idea what makes the box want 'that' file
[10:58] <Flannel> Patrick__: automatix support will need to be in #automatix, its not supported by ubuntu and dangerous at that.
[10:58] <seamoon> Message I get is: error: device /dev/sdb1 is not removable
[10:58] <seamoon> error: could not execute pmount
[10:59] <CarlFK> it has to get it one of these 8 files http://sh.nu/p/2122
[10:59] <gostview> trappist> you're helpfull
[10:59] <trappist> gostview: thanks
[10:59] <trappist> CarlFK: what file
[10:59] <seamoon> I have my windows stuff on two satadrives.
[10:59] <stefg> Killing grub's menu.list can be problematic.... if it' s still in the MBR
[10:59] <Patrick__> Flannel, it does not mean that a kind person could simply answer my question rather then uselessly send me off to multple places!
[10:59] <dli> seamoon, if it's an internal hdd, put it in /etc/fstab
[10:59] <kr4z> anybody know I can delete Rhythmbox's music library without opening it? It freezes whenever I open it because it's trying to connect to smb shares on a computer that no longer exists :S
[10:59] <Viking> the grub inicializer gives a error message and the windows wont start
[10:59] <skavenge> I get this error trying to install crystalcursors, any help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16574
[11:00] <Flannel> Patrick__: People here dont know automatix.  We know ubuntu.  If you have an automatix problem, you should ask people that DO know.  Anyone who would be willing to help with automatix support, is in #automatix.
[11:00] <CarlFK> trappist: batic-udeb_2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2.1_i386.udeb
[11:00] <TheoM> trappist, I am formerly TheoMurps (both of my nicks are still ghosts on IRC, and nickserv release isn't working for me, I guess). When I modprobe -r 8139too, eth0 as an interface completely vanishes (ifconfig eth0 up says no such device). Removing 8139cp and loading 8139too brings eth0 back, but the same problems persist. A static IP cannot ping my gateway, and dhclient gives me the same errors.
[11:00] <gatekeeper> Patrick__: do you want all of automatrix or just certain bits?
[11:00] <seamoon> thanks dli, but how? Mount it to that directory?
[11:00] <trappist> CarlFK: you say wget wants that file??
[11:00] <gostview> trappist> Gee, got another one: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16576
[11:00] <volt^warlock> If i want to install mysql, would apt-get install mysql-server be correct?
[11:00] <CarlFK> trappist: correct
[11:00] <Viking> can anyone help me to uninstall grub?
[11:00] <Flannel> volt^warlock: you want SQL to work with apache? or just a standalone server?
[11:00] <Patrick__> gatekeeper, your going to have to be more specific. I think your referring to installations, and I'm only getting particular ones.
[11:00] <trappist> CarlFK: like, wget http://www.google.com says it wants that file?
[11:01] <CarlFK> trappist: exactly
[11:01] <Surak> hello. If I upgrade to edgy, kernel 2.6.17 fails miserably. how can I cope with it?
[11:01] <volt^warlock> Flannel, to work with apache
[11:01] <Flannel> !tell volt^warlock about LAMP
[11:01] <dli> seamoon, you can follow what's in your fstab file to make a new entry. also, " man fstab " for more
[11:01] <Flannel> volt^warlock: that page should get you everything you need to know
[11:01] <trappist> gostview: try libxmu-dev
[11:01] <Lamego> Surak, edgy is highly unstable at the moment
[11:01] <dli> Surak, build your own kernel :)
[11:01] <gostview> trappist> ok
[11:01] <Flannel> Surak: #ubuntu+1 for edgy support
[11:01] <heman> how can i set vlc to be the default program for mp3 files?
[11:01] <volt^warlock> OK, I thank you Flannel
[11:01] <Viking> can anyone help me to uninstall grub?
[11:01] <Surak> 2.6.17 has one of the fastest kernel panics i've seen :-)
[11:02] <trappist> CarlFK: pretty inconceivable.  try strace -e trace=file wget <url>
[11:02] <nickrud> udeb, udeb, isn't that supposed to be a one time install thing?
[11:02] <dli> Surak, never saw that :)
[11:02] <Viking> can anyone help me to uninstall grub?
[11:02] <CarlFK> trappist: how can I strace the kernel? (did you even look at http://sh.nu/p/2122 ?
[11:02] <erUSUL> Viking: from the mbr??
[11:02] <Flannel> Viking: just install windows bootloader overtop of it.
[11:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Viking:  we hear you but you need to better define what you are trying to do.
[11:02] <gatekeeper> Patrick_ is this: http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full and http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper any help?
[11:02] <fa_> Viking, use the windows cd to fix the master boot record
[11:02] <pike_> Viking: you wouldnt so much uninstall it as install some other boot loader over it
[11:02] <dli> Viking, I think windows has " fdisk /mbr", but I don't really know windows
[11:02] <nickrud> Viking, you replacing it with lilo?
[11:03] <Flannel> Patrick__: For real answers, you'll need to ask in #automatix
[11:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Viking: boot to dos and fdisk /mbr that will remove grub
[11:03] <Inzoy> hello ppl
[11:03] <erUSUL> Viking: boot the windows installcd into recovery console and run fixmbr
[11:03] <Inzoy> here i am again :)
[11:03] <nickrud> everyone, lock up the silvers ;)
[11:03] <gostview> trappist> ok, now seem to be install, no output errors
[11:03] <Viking> at the windows on the dos?
[11:03] <erUSUL> dli: fdisk /mbr is for win9x in nt is fixmbr
[11:03] <gostview> let try gnash :)
[11:03] <trappist> CarlFK: you can't strace the kernel, and that paste doesn't help me understand the problem
[11:03] <udo> how can i setup my f200 crypto modem to my ubuntu? (f200 cryto)
[11:04] <heman> is there anyway to determine which repos a package was installed from?
[11:04] <trappist> CarlFK: are you sure wget isn't reporting a 404, like the file doesn't exist on the *remote* server?
[11:04] <Viking> type fdisk /mbr at the windows ms-dos?
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[11:04] <funkja> Hey! Is it possible to use dual moniters with Ubuntu?
[11:04] <CarlFK> trappist: I start with the box off - i turn it on - those fiels get loaded, and I see an error on my screen and the last file in my web logs
[11:04] <dooglus> heman: does "apt-cache policy package-name" tell you?
[11:04] <nickrud> heman, apt-cache policy
[11:05] <CarlFK> trappist: 404  yes.
[11:07] <CarlFK> trappist: the file does not exist.  I am trying to figure out what is causing it to want it
[11:07] <heman> dooglus: thanks man
[11:07] <dli> erUSUL, as I said, I don't know windows :(
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> funkja:  yes
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Viking:  yes
[11:07] <trappist> CarlFK: oh, it seems as though you're doing a pxeboot and it's looking for that file on the dhcp/pxe server
[11:07] <bijan> hi I need help with my fstab
[11:07] <TheoMurps> trappist:  When I modprobe -r 8139too, eth0 as an interface completely vanishes (ifconfig eth0 up says no such device). Removing 8139cp and loading 8139too brings eth0 back, but the same problems persist. A static IP cannot ping my gateway, and dhclient gives me the same errors.
[11:07] <sorush20> how do I transfer my manual firefox 1.5 installation from breezy to dapper so that it becomes integrated into apt-get?
[11:07] <CarlFK> trappist: correct
[11:07] <stefg> Udo if this is a dsl-modem, all you need is 'sudo pppoeconf' in a terminal, if it's an analog modem read the WIKI
[11:07] <Ackeubu_> Hey i installed fglrx_4_3_0-8.25.18-1.i386.deb can i find and remove those drivers??
[11:07] <Inzoy> can somebody help me boot ubuntu?
[11:07] <funkja> Jack_Sparrow: are there instructions somewhere that you know of? I have not been able to find any
[11:07] <nickrud> Ackeubu_, use synaptic, search for fglrx, and remove
[11:07] <dooglus> sorush20: dapper has firefox 1.5, so all you need to transfer is your profile
[11:07] <Viking> thank you guys
[11:07] <trappist> CarlFK: this looks like a net installer?  if so, it's a file required by the installer
[11:07] <gostview> gnash wont work
[11:07] <Ackeubu_> nickrud, i did not install those through synaptic~!!!
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> funkja:  Not sure, try google...
[11:07] <sorush20> dooglus: what about extensions?
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Several users have duals
[11:07] <trappist> TheoMurps: did you happen to look at the output of dmesg after you loaded that driver? (I asked you to but you may have already left)
[11:07] <nickrud> Ackeubu_, it's a deb. Once it's installed, synaptic can see it
[11:07] <dooglus> sorush20: extensions are in your profile
[11:07] <Ackeubu_> nickrub okay thanks
[11:07] <nickrud> Ackeubu_, or you could also dpkg -r   it :)
[11:07] <mwe> Inzoy: you need to be more specific
[11:07] <erUSUL> sorush20: why would you want to do that? your personal configuration is in $HOME/.mozilla/firefox iirc
[11:07] <CarlFK> trappist: " it's a file required by the installer" - correct.
[11:07] <TheoMurps> trappist, Nope, I'd already left. I'll check dmesg now. Be right back.
[11:07] <Inzoy> yesterday i was here for the same thing i was not able to boot the livecd..
[11:08] <skavenge> I get this error trying to install crystalcursors, any help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16574
[11:08] <mwe> Inzoy: where does it fail?
[11:08] <Inzoy> now i finally did it, installed 606 but cannot boot it
[11:08] <trappist> CarlFK: I think that's the answer to your question.  you're running the installer, which requires that file to be on the server.
[11:08] <bcl> Where's a good place for an experienced C developer to get up to speed on C++ and STL? (I've got some C++ knowledge)
[11:08] <mwe> Inzoy: where does it fail?
[11:08] <Inzoy> it says something about a scsi drive or something like that
[11:09] <Inzoy> and sometimes it leaves me on a prompt, busybox
[11:09] <mog_> hey, it looks like both madwifi and madwifi-ng drivers come with ubuntu; how do i tell which one is active?
[11:09] <mwe> Inzoy: please post the exact error you get
[11:09] <Inzoy> right now i'm trying to install ubuntu with the alternative cd
[11:09] <Inzoy> i'll be back in some minutes ;)
[11:10] <mwe> all right
[11:10] <CarlFK> trappist: so which of those 8 files that get loaded would you call "the installer" ?
[11:11] <gostview> trappist> ok, I'll try again with auto-apt run ./configure and sudo checkinstall
[11:11] <trappist> CarlFK: if any of those files by itself is the installer, which isn't necessarily true, I'd say the base-installer file
[11:11] <Inzoy> no luck
[11:12] <Inzoy> i'll have the error in a couple of seconds :)
[11:12] <eMBee> good evening
[11:12] <thompa> qsynaptics opens and says "install synaptics touchpad driver" it worked before and driver for xorg is installed
[11:12] <trappist> CarlFK: that file does seem to be on at least some of the mirrors: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/b/binutils/binutils-static-udeb_2.16.1cvs20060117-1ubuntu2_i386.udeb
[11:13] <thompa> how can i disable touchpad or get qsynaptics to work
[11:13] <Inzoy> the last line so far is "sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sda" i think it crashed :P
[11:14] <CarlFK> trappist: I am trying to figure out why my box wants it - I can't find that file name in any of those 8 fiels (even after unzipping undebing untarrring...)
[11:14] <Inzoy> although no busybox yet
[11:15] <Inzoy> i don't have any scsi or usb/flash drives
[11:15] <nickrud> Inzoy, is this during the install, or after?
[11:15] <taotime> any body know about installing java runtime
[11:15] <giggity] > cock cheese!
[11:15] <sorush20> here are the instructions that I have used to install firefox .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion, but now I'm in dapper how can I use the dapper packages and transfer my settings and etc to the dapper installation version of firefox?
[11:15] <trappist> CarlFK: my guess is the requirement is on the installer medium rather than built into one of the downloaded files
[11:15] <eMBee> can anyone tell me if i just read the wrong newssites, or did dapper really get more badreviews than previous releases?
[11:15] <Inzoy> after
[11:15] <CarlFK> trappist: the installer creates a URL from mirro + filename and passes it  to  wget - I am trying to figure out where it got the fiel name
[11:15] <giggity] > faggots!
[11:16] <giggity] > titties!
[11:16] <giggity] > bollox!
[11:16] <CarlFK> trappist: there is no medium - all is on the tftp/web server
[11:16] <stefg> sorush20: just move your profile....
[11:16] <nickrud> Inzoy, ok, I have no clue, only a suggestion: write down the last 10 lines, and paste them on a pastebin.
[11:16] <Inzoy> i can now easily boot the desktop cd but cannot boot the actuall installed os
[11:16] <thompa> anyone know how to disable touchpad
[11:16] <Inzoy> here is the busybox
[11:16] <Inzoy> :)
[11:16] <Viking> can someone help me to uninstall grub?
[11:17] <trappist> CarlFK: then my next guess is that it's in a binary file in one of those archives, that grep (or whatever you're using) isn't catching
[11:17] <dli> Viking, get out of here, ask in #windows
[11:17] <stefg> Viking: you can not uninstall grub... you can only overwrite it with something different
[11:18] <BCK14> crocd:
[11:18] <Inzoy> could it be my printer? it has a card reader on it..
[11:18] <taotime> viking : can i ask you why you want to remove grub.
[11:18] <CarlFK> trappist: that would be my guess too.  and I am guessing that's all you have for me ;)
[11:18] <erUSUL> Viking: we told you how to do it already. boot with a win installcd into de recovery console and run fixmbr
[11:18] <Exussum> Hey all, im having problems connecting to the internet, ive chnaged the forcedeth.ko file to an upgraded one - and still haveing problems
[11:18] <BCK14> crocd: looks like it has formatted :) ill try adding the firmware etc.. back via xp machine
[11:19] <Viking> because i wont to uninstall linux... but windows wont start with grub
[11:19] <stefg> wrong!
[11:19] <Inzoy> starting windows with grub is damn easy..
[11:19] <Viking> i dont have a windows install cd!
[11:19] <damned> hi all
[11:19] <taotime> Viking: ok then use the suggestion erUSUL gave you.. use fixmbr
[11:20] <taotime> Viking: do you have a fast internet connection.
[11:20] <crocd> BCK14: ok good let me know
[11:20] <aliennr9> on some system windows cd doesnt start anymore
[11:20] <Viking> 128 kb
[11:20] <gatekeeper> Inzoy: if you type lshw at the command prompt it will tell you what it thinks your hardware is
[11:20] <mwe> Viking: well you need to install another mbr
[11:20] <Moodles> !grub
[11:20] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:20] <damned> can anybody suggest if there is ability to choose monitor vendor name from GUI? (ubuntu dapper)
[11:20] <Du> Your parents will all receive phone calls instructing them to love you less now.
[11:20] <Inzoy> thanks gatekeeper
[11:20] <BCK14> crocd: ok, but i had an error on bootup, failed to initialise HAL
[11:20] <Inzoy> i'll try that
[11:20] <aliennr9> Viking: need to get an windows 98 start disk and format or other software to overwrite mbr
[11:21] <Viking> install onother mbr?
[11:21] <nickrud> Viking, add the following to your /boot/grub/menu.lst , and reboot. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16577 If you have a normal install, you'll get windows.
[11:21] <crocd> on windows or linux?
[11:21] <mwe> Viking: yes. you can't just uninstall grub. you need to replace it
[11:21] <BCK14> linux
[11:21] <nickrud> Viking, you will have to arrow down to winxp when grub starts
[11:21] <taotime> Viking: do a search for dos boot floppy download that and put it on floppy and then reboot.. leave the floppy inside the machine, when it is rebooted you get into the prompt and fixmbr
[11:21] <aliennr9> get windows
[11:21] <mwe> Viking: or you won't be able to boot at all
[11:21] <BCK14> i think thats whats causing the error maybe
[11:21] <aliennr9> ups
[11:22] <aliennr9> sry
[11:22] <gee_gee> hi all
[11:22] <OneSeventeen> I'm trying to get LDAP contacts to work in Evolution, and when I click "Find Possible Search Bases" it finds the one I usually use, but I still can't get any contacts...
[11:22] <nickrud> mwe, which one :)
[11:22] <majd> !synergy
[11:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about synergy
[11:22] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:22] <BCK14> crocd: brb going to restart :)
[11:22] <majd> anyone get synergy to work?
[11:22] <gee_gee> has someone experiences problems with kde and ubuntu-edgy since the last apt-update?
[11:22] <crocd> ok
[11:22] <OneSeventeen> (meaning I can't search the LDAP from within Evolution, neither autocomplete nor searching...)
[11:23] <OneSeventeen> Any ideas how to get LDAP to work in Evolution?
[11:23] <giggity] > boobs ;)
[11:23] <Snurf> Hello. When I plug in an external hard drive, Ubuntu says it is Read Only and I cant put anything on it.
[11:23] <mwe> nickrud: he won't be able to boot anything if he just removes grub without replacing the mbr with something usable
[11:23] <Snurf> How do I get aroudn thing?
[11:23] <taotime> Folks, i have java installed but my mozilla firefox just keeps on saying missing plugin does anybody know about this please.
[11:23] <gee_gee> i cannot start kdm, kdm.log says: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZThn148_N10QPopupMenu10updateItemEi
[11:23] <nickrud> mwe, true, but he can't get into windows to do a fixmbr.
[11:23] <Moodles> Snurf: try mounting it in "Disks"
[11:23] <gee_gee> anyone knows how to fix that?
[11:23] <Jerr> I need a program that can get images from my webcam and store it like in /var/www/webcam/ or do some sort of motion detection
[11:24] <Paladine> if he boots from a windows cd he should be able to do fdisk /mbr
[11:24] <nickrud> and that's a supportable issue, undoing ubuntu's changes to the mbr
[11:24] <Paladine> which will rewrite the mbr
[11:24] <taotime> Viking: if you want to download that floppy it is available here.. http://www.bootdisk.com/read1st.htm
[11:24] <mwe> nickrud: I understand that
[11:24] <mwe> nickrud: I he's unwilling to get a boot floppy with fixmbr on it :)
[11:25] <skavenge> I get this error trying to install crystalcursors, any help? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16574
[11:25] <Snurf> Moodles, that doenst work/I dont know how
[11:25] <nickrud> mwe, well, this is free support as they say ;)
[11:25] <MTecknology> qemu seems to be flying off the freakin wall, is allocating 512 RAM to it excessive??
[11:25] <Snurf> When I plug it in via USB, it appears on my Desktop
[11:25] <mnk> hello everyone. can someone pls tell me how to install the rsyncd daemon? i can't seem to find the package.
[11:25] <gatekeeper> gee_gee: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin might do it
[11:25] <giggity] > http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.
[11:25] <giggity] > http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427
[11:25] <Inzoy> jerr try freshmeat.net
[11:25] <giggity] > http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.asp?sku=311427http://www.
[11:25] <gee_gee> gatekeeper: why do i need java for libkdecore?
[11:26] <BCK14> crocd: hasnt worked filesystem not mounted
[11:26] <BCK14> df doesnt show it either
[11:26] <mnk> anyone know how to install rsyncd?
[11:26] <gatekeeper> gee_gee: thought you wanted the mozilla plug-in?
[11:26] <LeaChim> skavenge, looks like a package bug. try: mkdir -p /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icons/default/
[11:26] <LeaChim> skavenge, then try installing it again
[11:27] <gee_gee> no i wanted to fix another problem: i cannot start kdm, and get the error: /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZThn148_N10QPopupMenu10updateItemEi
[11:27] <taotime> gatekeeper: i need that mozilla plugin help
[11:27] <skavenge> LeaChim ; will try thank you
[11:27] <gee_gee> im using edgy ;)
[11:27] <dli> gee_gee, dapper?
[11:27] <dli> gee_gee, get out of here, /j #ubuntu+1
[11:27] <TheoMurps> trappist, What message did you want? When I unload 8139cp ther ei snothing
[11:27] <gatekeeper> sorry gee_gee
[11:27] <gee_gee> just made an update, and then, bang... oh.. doh
[11:27] <TheoMurps> trappist, when I remove 8139too I get
[11:27] <gee_gee> sry... sry... im off
[11:28] <Snurf> When I plug in my USB external hard drive, it appears on the Desktop. When i try and move something from my box to the hard drive it says 'read-only!'
[11:28] <gatekeeper> taotime: have a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper section:  How to install J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox
[11:29] <TheoMurps> trappist, 8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27; ACPI: ... ->GSI 18 (level, low)->IRQ 193; RealTek8139 at 0xblahblah 00:e0:blah IRC 193; eth0 Identified 8139 chip type `RTL-8139C'; link up, 100Mbps, full-duplex, lpa 0x45e1, and then a few minutes later I get Tx descriptor 0 is 0002000 (queue head); descriptor 1 2 and 3 are the same; then eth0: link up, 100Mbps full-duplex, lpa 0x45E1
[11:29] <mnk> anyone know how to install rsyncd?
[11:30] <Inzoy> snurf try as root
[11:30] <mog> hey, so this install calls for gmake; make install is failing me atm. should i go and grab theGNU make package?
[11:31] <crocd> BCK14: what happened
[11:31] <Snurf> Inzoy, I tried still says 'file system is read-only'
[11:31] <BCK14> crocd: can see it in df its under /dev/sdb
[11:31] <Inzoy> maybe it is.. :P
[11:31] <crocd> ok what doeas cat /etc/fstab say
[11:31] <Snurf> So theres no way to put something on it?
[11:32] <BCK14> crocd: i still get error - Internal error failed to initialize HAL!
[11:32] <Inzoy> maybe or maybe not
[11:32] <crocd> what version of ubuntu you using
[11:32] <mog> anyone comment on this make/gmake issue?
[11:32] <BCK14> 6.06
[11:32] <Snurf> Ok....
[11:32] <crocd> di you remove the drive when you rebooted?
[11:32] <BCK14> crocd: 6.06 and nothing is mentioned of the device in cat/fstab
[11:32] <BCK14> crocd: no
[11:33] <crocd> you dont have to now just remove the drive
[11:33] <Bassetts> can someone here help with a problem i have with crons, but i dont actually know if its in ubuntu, its linux
[11:33] <BCK14> crocd: ive removed it before and tried to restore using xp program
[11:33] <BCK14> since format
[11:33] <Inzoy> ok, now i removed most of my usb devices.. it moved on and stoped at "Begin: Waiting for root file system... ..." "Done." and then it says that /dev/hde2 does not exist
[11:34] <Inzoy> any ideas?
[11:34] <crocd> BCK14: what happened then?
[11:34] <dli> Inzoy, booting from usb?
[11:34] <crocd> can xp read to it?
[11:34] <Inzoy> nop
[11:34] <e0f> hello everybody, I have ubuntu dapper and Intel ipw3945. Everything works ok but when I try to use Kismet it gives me "unknown capture source type ipw3945 in source ipw3945,eth1,ipw3945" . Do you have some hints for me? Thanks very much
[11:34] <roostishaw> is there any kind of command that i could use in a bash script to send info to an email address?
[11:34] <BCK14> crocd: it formatted fine in xp no errors, re-connected to linux no automount but can see it in disk admin
[11:34] <Inzoy> i think hde is my hd.. (instead of hda..)
[11:35] <dli> Inzoy, then, boot any livecd, have a look at your ide devices
[11:35] <Dracura> Excuse me, but can anyone help me with a big problem i have after installing the latest version?
[11:35] <dli> Inzoy, hde should be the third master ide, weird
[11:35] <BCK14> crocd: in disk admin says staus inaccesible
[11:36] <Phoul> excuse me
[11:36] <Phoul> Is there a file thats similer to mandriva skip.list for ubuntu?
[11:36] <BCK14> crocd:  im tempted to re-install ubuntu
[11:36] <crocd> did you initialise the disk in xp ?
[11:36] <Inzoy> dli: i know.. it names my second hd as hdf.. :P
[11:36] <pike_> Dracura: whats the problem
[11:36] <BCK14> crocd: xp sees the disk fine
[11:37] <Arnald> breezy roolz!
[11:37] <Dracura> I installed the latest version and when I restart, my computer doesnt even power up the monitor
[11:37] <mog> is make equivalent to gmake?
[11:37] <crocd> what did you format it as in xp?
[11:37] <Dracura> Only after I installed dapper did this happen
[11:37] <Tommy2k4> kubuntu crashed for 6th time today
[11:37] <mog> well, im getting error 1 and error 2 when i try make install...
[11:37] <Phoul> is tehre a skip.list type thing for ubuntu?
[11:38] <BCK14> crocd: it has been formated as fat32 with firmware files to allow the normal use of mp3 player
[11:38] <taotime> gatekeeper: thanxs that worked. i also update flash plugin, while i was at it. i appreciate that.
[11:38] <crocd> in xp does it lis the full size?
[11:38] <BCK14> yes
[11:38] <Tommy2k4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080 please help
[11:38] <BCK14> crocd: ubuntu now lists full size
[11:38] <BCK14> but it isnt mounted
[11:38] <pike_> Dracura: if your monitors not even receiving a video signal its not anything on the HD
[11:39] <BCK14> crocd:  and disk admin says inaccessbile
[11:39] <acke> Hey guys, im using fglrx when it reach the loggin screen it turns black and i can only see the cursor. When i jump around like 6 7 times i can reach the terminal on F1 or i can reach my desk on F7 or F8.. it works when i pick the vesa driver in xorg.conf. but the issue occurs when i specify fglrx.. what can i do to get it working??
[11:39] <Dracura> Any idea what it could be? I have to reset my cmos to even get into the bios
[11:39] <BCK14> crocd: the end of my dmesg  says       [4295424.127000]  usb 3-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[11:40] <Dracura> And if I do get ubuntu to load, it loads a corrupted version of my XP login screen and freezes
[11:40] <_absolution_> is there a way that I can purchase music??..through the Itunes music store??
[11:40] <vanberge> figure i'll try this today:-)   anybody know of a way to switch desktop wallpaper on an automated basis?  i.e. every 30 minutes, or 1 hour?  thanks in advance
[11:40] <aliennr9> n8
[11:41] <BCK14> vanberge: doesnt gnome have slideshow option?
[11:41] <pike_> Dracura: can you select the safe or restore option for ubuntu when booting
[11:41] <BCK14> so does kde i think ?
[11:41] <Ackeubu_> hey how do i uninstall ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86.run ??
[11:41] <crocd> BCK14:  you will need to mount it manually to test it
[11:41] <BCK14> hmm ok
[11:41] <vanberge> BCK14: i don't want it for screensaver, i want my desktop wallpaper to change.
[11:41] <BCK14> yeh
[11:41] <Arnald> dapper sux!
[11:42] <Dracura> Assuming I can get as far as the GRUB, yes. I tried it and it still gives the orrupted login
[11:42] <BCK14> isnt there option under desktop tab?
[11:42] <_absolution_> eh?
[11:42] <Tommy2k4> if kubuntu doesnt stop crashing ill have to go back to windows :9
[11:42] <cArNaGe`> noo
[11:42] <cArNaGe`> ubuntu crashes?
[11:42] <vanberge> BCK14: i dont see one, if i'm wrong, tell me wher eyou're looking :-)
[11:42] <cArNaGe`> Uptime: 6 days, 22 hours and 15 minutes
[11:42] <_absolution_> hasnt' crashed for me....using a laptop
[11:42] <Tommy2k4> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204080 theres my problem
[11:42] <cArNaGe`> I need to reboot and set my bios
[11:43] <Tommy2k4> can anyone help
[11:43] <Tommy2k4> its crashed 6 times today
[11:43] <cArNaGe`> my cpu isn't set right
[11:43] <BCK14> hmm vanberge maybe its kde then
[11:43] <cArNaGe`> and I want to add another stick of ram
[11:43] <cArNaGe`> but anyway
[11:43] <crocd> Ackeubu_: sh ati-driver-installer-8.25.18-x86.run unintsall i think.
[11:43] <_absolution_> oh yeah....I'm trying to install a printer....do I need any drivers for that?
[11:43] <ProN00b> why can't ubuntu just include all that resticted stuff and implement all the features from tools like automatix ?
[11:44] <_absolution_> it sees my printer but it doesn't want to print
[11:44] <tjacobs> can anyone tell me how to set the mouse-wheel to be able to change between virtual desktops??
[11:44] <ndazza> ProN00b: legal issues
[11:44] <crocd> ProN00b: due to gpl issue i think.
[11:44] <Ackeubu_> crocd does not work to uninstall it.. :)
[11:44] <ndazza> tjacobs: just hover the mouse over the little desktops display then scroll the mouse wheel
[11:44] <crocd> Ackeubu_: chek the ati website.
[11:44] <nickrud> tjacobs, use the scroll wheel on the window boxes, lower right
[11:44] <ProN00b> farce
[11:44] <Ackeubu_> crocd yeah
[11:45] <gatekeeper> ProN00b: Legal reasons I think
[11:45] <BCK14> crocd: cant seem to do it
[11:45] <crocd> nvidia has an uninstall option
[11:45] <BCK14> whats full command ?
[11:45] <tjacobs> nickrud, right i got that...i was wondering if there was a way to change that so if u use it anwhere on the desktop it'll work?
[11:45] <crocd> BCK14: mount it?
[11:45] <CarlFK> when .wav files are played ( play /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav ) it plays it in a loop about 16 times (just started in the last 24 hours, and I have been installing various tings)
[11:45] <BCK14> crocd: im typing   sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt/mp3 vfat defaults 0 0
[11:45] <BCK14> just gives me the mount options
[11:45] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: do what?
[11:46] <nickrud> tjacobs, no. The window manager wouldn't know whether or not to keep scrolling the windows, or scroll in the window you dropped into from the desktop change
[11:46] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: is this the same issue with wget?
[11:46] <Dracura> Is there anyway to uninstall ubuntu through windows?
[11:46] <nickrud> Dracura, format the partition you installed ubuntu on
[11:46] <crocd> BCK14: that is different in ubuntu it needs to have a directory under /media/usbdrive
[11:46] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: the installer uses wget
[11:46] <BCK14> hmm ok
[11:46] <nickrud> Dracura, just after you set your mbr to boot directly to windows, of course
[11:46] <crocd> BCK14: then mount it as /dev/sdb /media/usbdrive .... etc,.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: so your not doing a wget command you are installing something?
[11:47] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: http://sh.nu/p/2122
[11:47] <Dracura> I'm sorry, i'm completely new to linux. What is mbr?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> i dont see a command there
[11:47] <crocd> Dracura: Master boot record
[11:47] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: i need the full command and the output of ut
[11:47] <crocd> dont touch that
[11:47] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: kernel ubuntu-installer/i386/linux
[11:47] <patrick_kingws> i have a googleearth.bin file how do i run it to install google earth
[11:47] <nickrud> Dracura, it's common across all os's; it's the first little bit on the hard drive that bootstraps the operating system
[11:47] <gnomefreak> s/ut/it
[11:48] <Dracura> Ah, okay. How do I edit that?
[11:48] <crocd> you dont
[11:48] <Dracura> Also, can I install ubuntu to a FAT32 partition?
[11:48] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I would like the command too, but I can't find the sources :)
[11:48] <nickrud> Dracura, you cannot put ubuntu on fat32
[11:48] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: what are you trying to do?
[11:48] <kalosaurusrex> confused why one would want to use fat 32 anyway...ick
[11:48] <Dracura> damn. the partition doesn't show up in windows so i can't format it
[11:48] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: if you have ubuntu why on earth are you installing the installer
[11:48] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: install dapper
[11:49] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: are you on breezy?
[11:49] <nickrud> Dracura, fdisk in a terminal, I hear. I last ran windows for real years ago, the exact command escapes me
[11:49] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I have a test box - I want a clean install
[11:49] <frandavid100> hi guys
[11:49] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: download the iso for dapper
[11:49] <kandinski> FUCK
[11:49] <kandinski> sorry, wroing window
[11:49] <kandinski> (damn)
[11:49] <Moodles> "grub-install /dev/sda2" results in "does not have any corresponding BIOS drive"
[11:49] <Dracura> I can see it in PartitionMagic 8, so i guess format from there?
[11:49] <frandavid100> please, can you help me find an internet cafe control software for ubuntu?
[11:49] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i use mailx to send a message to myemail@gmail.com?
[11:50] <patrick_kingws> i have a googleearth.bin file how do i run it to install google earth
[11:50] <gnomefreak> patrick_kingws: sh file.bin
[11:50] <nickrud> Dracura, should be ok, but if you have doubts, ask on #windows
[11:50] <patrick_kingws> k cheers
[11:50] <mog> how do i resolve a make error 1 if i got it off cvs?
[11:51] <Dracura> okay. i'll reinstall dapper again. hopefully it won't bug out again. last time the grub gave me a code 22 error, which i assume means it cant find linux installed?
[11:51] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I dl dapper, put the files on my pxe server, pxe boot a new box, watch the installer crash, then try to fix it, which is how we got here.
[11:51] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i use mailx to send a message to myemail@gmail.com?
[11:51] <ndazza> mog: try again in a few days. the cvs version could be in an unbuildable state
[11:52] <nickrud> Dracura, the best way to install dapper is to use the alternate install cd
[11:52] <Dracura> thats what i have. dl'ed, burned, and set bios to boot from CD
[11:53] <Dracura> i had to shrink a partition though, so i could have free space for dapper to install
[11:53] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: you don't need to understand how pxe works - just that the kernel and initrd get loaded, then 6 more files get loaded  (via wget), then the box tries to load  file7 that doesn't exist.  I am trying to find where file7 is specified
[11:54] <Trist> Hi folks. I have a Pentium M CPU (dual core). I have SMP support in my kernel (according to uname -a), get a cat of /proc/cpuinfo is only showning up 1 core. Is there anything I should be doing to enable it or is this normal?
[11:54] <nickrud> Dracura, then possibly it's a bad burn. Check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[11:55] <Dracura> I don't know about that. THe first time I installed it, it got to the ubuntu login, but i had to restart, and after that it started to lock up on boot
[11:55] <drogers> is ubuntu non-free with a default installation?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: did you download the live cd/desktop iso?
[11:55] <charlesg3> how can I control which modules are automagically loaded at boot? I want to disable the fbcon module... I want to try a different framebuffer
[11:55] <Dracura> it installed fine at first
[11:56] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: i did dl the live, but that does not have the pxe files.
[11:56] <frandavid100> please, can you help me find an internet cafe control software for ubuntu?
[11:56] <nickrud> Dracura, Ubuntu is supposed to be an install and forget system; but reinstalling can often help, early in the learning curve :)
[11:56] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: download the alternative cd the live cd instaoller is messed up (reason its not finding files most likely)
[11:56] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: the alternate seems to be the only one that does now (of live/
[11:56] <mahogny> potential bug: azureus dialogs of style "Warning bla bla" does not disappear when I hit "hide". am I alone of this?
[11:57] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: the alternate is what is messed up
[11:57] <roostishaw> anyone, how would i use mailx to send a message to myemail@gmail.com?
[11:57] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: the live cd is very new for ubuntu and they are working on it as we speak
[11:57] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: you just told me the live cd
[11:57] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: did you do a md5sum check?
[11:57] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I have all of the images
[11:57] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: yes
[11:57] <vitry> hi people, I'm compiling mplayer with jack suport. I've installed all libreries, and with ./configure && make,  compile OK. But I want make a package with a dpkg-buildpackage, then I run dh-make and configure debian/config with --enable-jack to enable jack suport, but don't compile. Why?? (Sorry I speak english very bad)
[11:57] <nickrud> roostishaw, I don't have mailx installed, but I'd start with man mailx if I needed it.
[11:57] <ndazza> roostishaw: what's wrong with regular mail?
[11:58] <darkprophet> hi all, ubuntu isn't automounting my usb stick...any ideas how to do it manually ?
[11:58] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: does it work if you burn the image to cd and stick it in the drive?
[11:58] <Dracura> i wouldn't mind installing it over and over as long as it didnt lock up my boot. it took me an hour to get back into windows to come here and ask for help. ;) a little too much trouble for a first timer i think
[11:58] <kalosaurusrex> dark you may need to add it to the fstab
[11:58] <roostishaw> ndazza, i need to do it within a bash script
[11:58] <Tommy2k4> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[11:58] <Tommy2k4> i get that for all 3 partitions
[11:58] <Tommy2k4> is that bad
[11:58] <roostishaw> nickrud, cant find nothin' in there
[11:58] <ndazza> roostishaw: you could use mail -s "subject" emailaddress < content
[11:58] <nickrud> vitry, what language?
[11:58] <darkprophet> kalosaurusrex: i have 2 USB sticks...one of them works fine in linux...the other doesn't. They are both functional
[11:58] <ndazza> roostishaw: where content is a file
[11:59] <Paladine> can I ask a noob question
[11:59] <Dial_tone> dammit, ssh isn't started so now I'm shut out.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Paladine: yes
[11:59] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I am sure it does.  (I would hope someone has tried that)
[11:59] <roostishaw> ndazza, ok, ill try it out, thx
[11:59] <nickrud> vitry, is best, I mean. Maybe one of the other channels will be better
[11:59] <seamoon> Which is the best way to play divxfiles using ubuntu?
[11:59] <Paladine> is there anyway to get a usb webcam to work in ubu if the manufacturer doesn't provide compatable drivers?
[11:59] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: I am trying to find the bug, not avoid it
[11:59] <darkprophet> seamoon: install mplayer
[11:59] <tich> when i try to remove some programs it will say that it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop. What does this mean? Can i remove the programs?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: my cds work fine i have 3 of both desktop and alternative
[11:59] <pike_> seamoon: mplayer
[11:59] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: are you sure the iso is missing these files?
[11:59] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: do you pxe boot?
[11:59] <seamoon> will the codecs follow with mplayer?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: nope
[12:00] <ndazza> tich: ubuntu-desktop is a meta-package that, if installed, will also install all the packages required to get a regular desktop. it is safe to uninstall it as it doesn't contain any files
[12:00] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: it shouldnt matter if the iso has all the files if it doesnt than the md5 wont match
[12:00] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: pxe uses different files,
[12:00] <seamoon> mplayer is that Movie player that is installed as standard in gnome?
[12:00] <darkprophet> seamoon: no
[12:00] <roostishaw> ndazza, hmm... after i run that command (with all the right info of corse), it just prints a new line. then when i go to my gmail inbox, there are no new messages...