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franz	anyone has an idea what to do when installation is stuck at 94% of hardware configuration since 15 mins?	12:07
\|lostbyte\|	Skizzo21, kdesu is a utility to open kate in root.	12:07
Skizzo21	and i edited that one file	12:07
robotgeek	Tommy2k4: sorry, no idea what causes that. not my area of expertise	12:07
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gatekeeper	\|lostbyte\|: that a bit of an insult to kate :-)	12:07
\|lostbyte\|	franz, did you check your cd with md5sum ?	12:08
Tommy2k4	whats the console command to find out monitors vert/horiz refresh rate	12:08
\|lostbyte\|	gatekeeper, Made it simple to him.. i know :P	12:08
robotgeek	Tommy2k4: maybe xdpyinfo, not sure. dont have access to machine right now	12:08
\|lostbyte\|	Tommy2k4, Cant !	12:08
franz	yes indeed! \|lostbyte\| i'm new to kubuntu but not to linux. not an expert though	12:08
Tommy2k4	\|lostbyte\|, im pretty certain ive did it before	12:08
Skizzo21	wow my wireless card worked right away :-)!!!!!	12:09
gatekeeper	\|lostbyte\|: just pulling your leg :-)	12:09
\|lostbyte\|	:)	12:09
\|lostbyte\|	Tommy2k4, did what ?	12:09
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Tommy2k4	found out vert/horiz refresh rates from console	12:09
Skizzo21	aight now i have a really really hard question...... my display seems kinda ... blehhhh ... this is an old laptop and it jus seems like the refresh rate is kinda crappy... any suggestions?	12:10
franz	\|lostbyte\|, kubutu works fine from cd. installation is faulty	12:10
gatekeeper	\|lostbyte\|: It's good in here, I can help folks where I can and learn at the same time :-)	12:10
Tommy2k4	robotgeek, thats not it :(	12:11
jeff_	jlosbyte--can you tell me how tp make the login screen show all the User	12:11
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mta`chrono	Hello. Sorry, I've a problem. And the problem is that I don't know where is the problem.... KDE is able to play sounds, but certain musik players like amaroK and XMMS can't play anything..... :S	12:11
\|lostbyte\|	jeff_, i think i did it before by changing the login interface throught kcontrol..	12:12
negocio	CAN ANYONE HELP ME MAKING DOS WORK WITH QEMU?	12:12
svivian	franz: Have you tried doing the install from the text installer instead of the desktop? When I did that, I got a cleaner install	12:12
gatekeeper	franz: I had exactly the same problem with a dodgy maxtor HDD, swapped it for a seagate, installed like a dream	12:12
robotgeek	negocio: caps is rude	12:12
negocio	ok	12:12
negocio	sorry	12:12
negocio	can anyone help me with DOS in qemu	12:12
robotgeek	negocio: have you looked at the qemu wiki article?	12:13
\|lostbyte\|	negocio, CAPS pls. Try #qemu	12:13
negocio	i need to run foxpro for DOS	12:13
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svivian	mta`chrono: Try turning off the KDE sound. Sometimes it prevents the media players from running	12:13
robotgeek	uggh!	12:13
robotgeek	anyways, have fun!	12:13
mta`chrono	okay...	12:13
franz	svivian, thanks for suggestion. I always suspected that programmers have something against graphics environments and write better code for console....	12:13
negocio	im looking in the wiki	12:15
\|lostbyte\|	gatekeeper, I hate to learn alone too.. thats why i read irc's :)	12:15
negocio	but it seems to i have to install dos from a cd or floppy first	12:15
negocio	but there is a fuction to emulate a fat disk froma a directory	12:15
negocio	thats great	12:15
negocio	speccially if i have no way to copy content to the image file	12:15
franz	gatekeeper, can't buy a new hdd.... lack of money you know...	12:16
\|lostbyte\|	negocio, <dignome> is trying to help you.. tell him..	12:16
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gatekeeper	franz: try badblocks on it to make sure it is alright. the other installer svivian told you about might help	12:17
Skizzo21	does anyone know why my display seems kinda of crappy... like there are lines and jus kinda blurry when i move an icon or what not	12:18
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gatekeeper	franz: good luck, got to go now	12:18
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\|lostbyte\|	gatekeeper, tc :)	12:18
TheHighChild	Anyone running an IBM Thinkpad?	12:18
ZomMes	ok, how do I share a certain directory with Samba/Smb4K?	12:18
Skizzo21	i M	12:19
Skizzo21	I AM*	12:19
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: Any idea why I would stop having sound after enabling the suspend to ram?	12:19
\|lostbyte\|	ZomMes, kcontrol > internet & network	12:19
jeff_	jlostbyte--can you tell me where in control	12:20
Skizzo21	haha sorry i have been running linux for about 6 mins now	12:20
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jeff_	your doing good	12:20
LiteHedded	how do I kill everything related to kde?	12:20
LiteHedded	there's lots of k* processes I don't want running	12:20
\|lostbyte\|	jeff_, control ?	12:20
jeff_	Kcontrol	12:21
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: lol, no man	12:21
jeff_	for login scren	12:21
Dsa411	hey i am trying to install wine using wines instructions but i am gettin a 404 error any one know of an alternative method?	12:21
TheHighChild	jeff 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"	12:21
jeff_	to add user to login screen?	12:22
Skizzo21	anyone know why my display is crappy ????	12:22
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: Probably need video driers	12:22
TheHighChild	drivers*	12:22
\|lostbyte\|	Skizzo21, Screenshot pls ?	12:22
jeff_	skizzo-- make sure you have right drivers	12:22
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Skizzo21	how do i update them or what not?	12:23
svivian	Skizzo21: Do you have a graphics card, and what driver are you using for it. Also, if you have an LCD, you may not be running it at the optimal resolution (most run best at 1280x1024)	12:23
\|lostbyte\|	Dsa411, apt-get install wine after adding the repos.	12:23
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Skizzo21	this is a really old thinkpad 600x	12:23
LiteHedded	the kdm process has stopped but there are lots of processes still running	12:23
LiteHedded	that start with k	12:23
\|lostbyte\|	LiteHedded, like ?	12:23
LiteHedded	ksoftirqd	12:24
LiteHedded	kblockd	12:24
Dsa411	lostbyte i try that and i get a "/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"	12:24
LiteHedded	khelper	12:24
jeff_	thehighchild--will that add user to login screen?	12:24
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: What video card does it have?	12:24
LiteHedded	kjournald	12:24
LiteHedded	etc	12:24
Skizzo21	uhhhh	12:24
Skizzo21	lol	12:24
\|lostbyte\|	Dsa411, Did you add the repos ?	12:24
Skizzo21	linux detected one for it	12:24
TheHighChild	jeff_: Not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain?	12:25
Dsa411	yea in the package manager	12:25
jeff_	i want to see a list of user on the login screen---like I dare say XP	12:25
Skizzo21	hey guys whats the eqivelent to an EXE on linux?	12:25
jeff_	have little girl user	12:25
LiteHedded	no way to kill it?	12:26
Tommy2k4	i think u just made me realise something	12:26
Tommy2k4	oops	12:26
Tommy2k4	but	12:26
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jeff_	skizzo there isnt one	12:26
gil	i need some help with my screensavers	12:26
Tommy2k4	i just did a command to enable the swap cos a thread on ubuntuforums said that could stop the crashing	12:26
\|lostbyte\|	jeff_, kcontrol > system administration > login manager	12:26
Tommy2k4	and since i did that xmms wont play sound anymore	12:26
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TheHighChild	Skizzo21: There is no executables that do everything. '.deb' packages do come close though.	12:27
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gil	can someone tell me why they only appear on 1/3 of the screen	12:27
Skizzo21	weirddddddddddddd	12:27
jeff_	must be missing someyhing I have been ther, but thks	12:27
Skizzo21	if i downloaded this program that was .tar.gz and i extracted it all and it gave me (2) .pl files how would i use what the guy wrote	12:27
jeff_	skizzo21--no file ext	12:27
Skizzo21	(3)**	12:27
\|lostbyte\|	gil, what screensaver, kde's ?	12:27
gil	yes	12:27
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jeff_	thanks guys it's been fun but time to eat dinner.	12:28
TheHighChild	Is that python Skizzo21?	12:28
\|lostbyte\|	gil, gl ones ?	12:28
gil	i know i h screensavers only run on part of the screens	12:28
Skizzo21	highchild... friendly reminder 15 mins now running linux for first time :-(	12:28
Skizzo21	i have no idea what im doing	12:28
Skizzo21	lol	12:28
gil	sorry yes....GL	12:28
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TheHighChild	Skizzo21: What app are you trying to run?	12:29
jeff_	skizzo21---you arent a linux user until you kill your install several times	12:29
Skizzo21	lol	12:29
Skizzo21	its a wep security program	12:29
jeff_	im still on the way, trying to kill this one	12:29
jeff_	bye	12:30
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: Can you give me the name? I want to google it and see if I can help you more after reading the readme	12:30
Skizzo21	sure do you mind if I pm you sir?	12:30
gil	lostbyte: i know my GL works...i cant figure out whats wrong with these screensavers	12:30
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TheHighChild	Skizzo21: not at all	12:30
Skizzo21	poop im unregistered	12:31
franz	which program can i use from kubuntu live to test a hdd for bad blocks ?	12:31
Skizzo21	let me register real quick	12:31
Skizzo21	or could u PM me?	12:31
\|lostbyte\|	gil, Its hard to tell..	12:31
TheHighChild	franz: You can use the fsck command to check for disk errors.	12:32
Skizzo21	lol highchild let me figure out how to register	12:32
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ScottLand	aight	12:32
ScottLand	hold on	12:32
TheHighChild	Skizzo21: Ok man, I will brb in about 5 though. Feel free to have your way with my PM until then	12:32
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ScottLand	lol i will	12:32
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franz	TheHighChild, from a console using kubuntu live?	12:33
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\|lostbyte\|	franz, that would be safe.	12:35
whizz-	might not be the right channel to ask this in, but does anybody know a site ripper for kde?	12:35
gil	you know what would be so super....if i can get this freaking toshiba to go into suspend mode...	12:36
gil	anyone?	12:36
\|lostbyte\|	whizz-, wget.	12:36
gil	i have been at that for about 2 months now	12:36
h3sp4wn	whizz: wget --mirror	12:36
franz	ok thanks \|lostbyte\| . btw now grub is not working and I can't even access the old win98 i have on another disk	12:36
\|lostbyte\|	gil, i belive on laptop comaptuble sites they have walkthrought for these stuff.	12:37
whizz-	thx \|lostbyte\| and h3sp4wn	12:37
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\|lostbyte\|	franz, ubuntu's wiki explains how to get back the grub.. with the cd.	12:37
gil	can you tell me what you speak of ?	12:37
\|lostbyte\|	just search for grub there..	12:38
franz	Another question: from kubuntu live, how can I access my hdds? I can see them but when I try to mount them it says they are not in fstab or mtab.....	12:38
\|lostbyte\|	gil, which model ?	12:38
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gil	toshiba m40x	12:39
\|lostbyte\|	franz, "when I try to mount them" HOW ?	12:39
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macd	If kinfocenter shows a usb network adapter, is there any reason that ifconfig/iwconfig would not show it?	12:39
Hawkwind	Anyone know of a source for Kubuntu to get audacious ? Seems I've got multi/universe and many others but none seem to have audacious	12:40
franz	can' remember the name of the utility \|lostbyte\|.... it's on the tray of kubuntu live	12:40
\|lostbyte\|	macd, yes ! because one shows the info of the hardware and one showes you that its up and working.	12:40
franz	can't	12:40
macd	ahh, so I should be installing drivers or the appropriate kernel module to support the chipset.	12:41
franz	sorry but the computer with the problems is in another room.... not running kubuntu on this one i'm using now	12:41
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\|lostbyte\|	franz, didt use live.. but like every live cd. it makes those links in fstab already..	12:42
\|lostbyte\|	macd, yes.	12:42
ScottLand	Does kubuntu run off a registery... or can i just copy all these files to another harddrive on the same computer and be fine???	12:43
macd	gotcha prism2, wlan-ng ? and can you still pull firmware with wlan-ng ?	12:43
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\|lostbyte\|	ScottLand, good one.. i think yes it would be fine.. and do change the grub settings..	12:43
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franz	\|lostbyte\|, the utility i'm talking about is something like "storage media" if i can remeber well	12:44
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franz	it shows my two disks.	12:45
franz	but if i try to mount them from there it says they are not in fstab	12:45
\|lostbyte\|	franz, huh ! looks like it simply detects the new drives..	12:46
franz	well, what should i do to use them?	12:46
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\|lostbyte\|	franz, Have you checked /media/ to see if they are'nt mounted already.. ?	12:47
franz	they are not mentioned in /media \|lostbyte\|	12:47
\|lostbyte\|	franz, then i guess, add them to fstab or do a direct mount from commandline.	12:48
franz	will go to try \|lostbyte\|	12:49
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\|lostbyte\|	ok..	12:49
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spik	Can some one explain this whole respitory thing to me?	12:50
spik	I do not understand it at all	12:50
spik	for example when I type -> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main	12:50
spik	why do I have to put dapper and main there?	12:50
Blissex	spik: thats not right....	12:51
spik	if I put something else will it work?	12:51
DaSkreech	spik: Dapper says which version of the Distro you are using	12:51
Blissex	spik: what are you trying to get explained?	12:51
spik	uhh	12:51
DaSkreech	main is the classification of the programs that you will have access to	12:51
spik	why I have to put dapper and main at the end	12:51
spik	will it work if I put something else?	12:51
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DaSkreech	Well that depends	12:51
\|lostbyte\|	spik, its an info file not a command. so its listed in order for apt-get to understand and update.	12:52
DaSkreech	on if you are using something else :)	12:52
DaSkreech	spik: If you are using edgy then you would replace dapper with edgy	12:52
Hawkwind	Also, can someone tell me if there is a skip.list file of some sort that I can add app names to so that when I do an apt-get upgrade they do NOT get updated ?	12:52
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LjL	spik: there are four repositories for dapper. "dapper", which is the primary one; "dapper-updates", which contains bugfixes; "dapper-security", which contains security patches; "dapper-backports", which contains packaged ported back from the next (experimental) version. Each of these has four parts: "main" (main packages), "restricted" (prioprietary drivers, mostly), "universe" (packages mantained by the community), "multiverse" (packages that	12:52
LjL	s)	12:52
DaSkreech	Hawkwind: You can hold them in aptitude AFAIK	12:52
\|lostbyte\|	spik, No ! each colume has a meaning.. dont mix or change them unless you know ..	12:52
Hawkwind	DaSkreech: Isn't aptitude GUI ?	12:52
DaSkreech	Hawkwind: Nope	12:53
spik	ok, I think I'm getting it	12:53
\|lostbyte\|	Hawkwind, Hai ! I didt know you were here.. lolz	12:53
LjL	Hawkwind: no, it's got a text-mode user interface though	12:53
Blissex	spik: the paths in the 'deb' line are constructed in two different ways, but the principle is the same.	12:53
Hawkwind	DaSkreech: Ummm, how would I do it with aptitude ? I'm new to Ubuntu and come from Mandriva and we had /etc/urpmi/skip.list file to add them to	12:53
cps1966	i know you can in synaptic	12:53
Hawkwind	\|lostbyte\|: Hey there. Yeah I've left Mandriva permanently :P	12:53
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DaSkreech	Hawkwind: man aptitude and then do a search for hold	12:54
Raito	So I have a widescreen laptop. When playing full screen games the thing is stretched causing it to look extreemly bad. How would I make full screen be in an exact 800 x 600 aspect ratio? So that there would be void on the sides of the screen?	12:54
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\|lostbyte\|	Hawkwind, Thats nice.. Glade your here..	12:54
Frederick	folks anyone else feeling eclipse is DAMM slow under kubuntu?	12:54
min	hey	12:54
min	I have a question	12:54
Blissex	spik: one type of path is for Debian-release-style repositories, the other is for simple-directory repositories.	12:54
min	is there a special way to reboot kubuntu?	12:54
DaSkreech	Logout?	12:55
LjL	min: "Log out" and then "Reboot"?	12:55
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LjL	"Restart computer", actually	12:55
\|lostbyte\|	min, make a shortcut on your desktop with command kdesu reboot	12:55
notand	min: shutdown -r now	12:55
LjL	notand: that's not necessarily good advice.	12:55
LjL	KDE would usually like to know that it's going to be shut down.	12:56
notand	you're right	12:56
min	cuz everytiem I reboot	12:56
min	everytime I reboot	12:56
min	U know the bootscreen?	12:56
LjL	yeah...?	12:56
min	the blue bar with the black background with kubuntu on the top?	12:57
LjL	... yeah.	12:57
min	first it loads	12:57
min	then it comes up again	12:57
\|lostbyte\|	bootscreen.. never seen that for a while..	12:57
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min	then the bootscreen freezes	12:57
min	so Im forced to turn off	12:57
word	can you mount a partition to a directory that already has contents?	12:57
min	and reinstall kubuntu for the 3rd time	12:57
\|lostbyte\|	word, good one.. never tried..	12:57
svivian	min: you have a problem with a video driver. When you get that, hit ctrl-f1, log in, get root, and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	12:57
DaSkreech	word: Yes	12:58
min	thanks	12:58
DaSkreech	word: Oh wait... no	12:58
min	Ill tyr it right away	12:58
word	DaSkreech: ...argh false hopes :P	12:58
\|lostbyte\|	DaSkreech, :P	12:58
\|lostbyte\|	word, try !	12:58
\|lostbyte\|	word, love to know..	12:58
LjL	you're lucky anyway, i don't get the splash screen at shutdown	12:58
DaSkreech	word: Why on earth would you want to do that?	12:58
LjL	well admittedly it does reboot for me, though	12:59
\|lostbyte\|	DaSkreech, CAnt say ! maybe he is not no earth..	12:59
word	I want to have my personal files IE videos music etc. from my homedir on a seperate partition and share them between 2 distros of linux	12:59
notand	hm i sometimes get the splash screen at shutdown, seems random	12:59
\|lostbyte\|	word, smb ?	01:00
word	?	01:00
\|lostbyte\|	word, how are you sharing ?	01:00
\|lostbyte\|	word, opps ! miss read..	01:01
word	lol same hd :P	01:01
\|lostbyte\|	word, you can ! but why mount to a dir with files..	01:01
word	because like say i have the directories videos music text files in my home/word/ dir and I want to have those same files in /home/word on suse but I don't want to share the configuration files between the two distros so I don't want the whol /home/word dir to be shared	01:02
min	no	01:03
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min	not at shut down	01:03
min	I get it when I reboot	01:03
min	and it freezes	01:03
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min	well I did what u told me svian	01:04
\|lostbyte\|	word, mount distro1 /home/word to distro2 /home/word/mp3/	01:04
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\|lostbyte\|	word, If your mounting home.. then all files will be mounted too..	01:05
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\|lostbyte\|	min, it freezes on which line ?	01:05
min	no line	01:05
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BKaj	installed synaptic, but i can't get it to run as root ...how do I accomplish this ?	01:06
Tommy2k4	whats the console command to find out what v/h refresh rates my monitor can handle	01:06
\|lostbyte\|	min, OK ! when you shutdown throught power. and restart does it check your hd's for error ?	01:06
svivian	min: you went through reconfiguring xserver?	01:06
\|lostbyte\|	Tommy2k4, cant !	01:07
Tommy2k4	im certain ive did it before thogh	01:07
Tommy2k4	though*	01:07
min	restart	01:07
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Ertain	I forgot how to unlock my pack database, since Adept froze up.	01:08
min	and the bootscreen comes up	01:08
min	and the lines finish	01:08
min	and then it coems up again	01:08
min	the bootscreen	01:08
min	and it freezes on the boot screen	01:08
Wodger	Bkaj it should ask you for your sudo password when you lauch the package manger	01:09
notand	min: you could edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file manually and insert an open graphic driver and than reboot. i had a similar problem due to an broken closed nvidia driver	01:09
\|lostbyte\|	Ertain, dpkg --configure -a	01:09
min	how do I do that?	01:09
\|lostbyte\|	Opps ! got to go..	01:10
\|lostbyte\|	Night all :)	01:10
BKaj	it doesn't ask me , the dialog tells me It's read only	01:10
BKaj	Wodger	01:10
min	I tried to edit my xorg file	01:10
min	but I dont know what to put isnde it	01:10
notand	what graphic card have you got?	01:11
Ertain	Didn't work. It says that database is locked by another user. However, I'm the only user.	01:11
min	Ig ot atoi	01:11
Wodger	i've found the admin windows to be hit and miss to be honest	01:11
min	ati radeo	01:11
svivian	min: what ATI card	01:11
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Wodger	found some times a restart is needed	01:11
min	radeon	01:11
min	ati radeon its for the laptop	01:12
BKaj	Wodger, the distro didn't come synaptic, some suggested I DL it and install it with Adept	01:12
min	its a 32 mb	01:12
svivian	min: but which radeon? 9000? 9500?	01:12
Wodger	yup same here	01:12
svivian	min: how old is the laptoip?	01:12
Tommy2k4	\|lostbyte\|, sudo ddcprobe \| grep monitorrange	01:12
Wodger	i installed synamptic	01:12
notand	hm under Section "Device" , try a Driver "ati"	01:12
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min	eh	01:13
Wodger	as kubuntu installs adept	01:13
min	1 year old	01:13
min	1.5 years old	01:13
BKaj	Wodger: is it listed in the k-menu ?	01:13
min	o yea	01:13
Wodger	yes	01:13
min	Im on two monitors if it helps	01:13
BKaj	after install, cuz mine is not	01:13
Wodger	mmm	01:13
Wodger	i'd be tempted to remove and try again	01:14
min	but the other monitor's broken	01:14
BKaj	maybe I should just i=uninstall and try again	01:14
min	so Im using an external monitor	01:14
svivian	min: as notand said, look in the xorg.conf for the Device section, and see what driver it is using. When you went through the xserver reconfig, what driver did it suggest as the default?	01:14
BKaj	yeah	01:14
notand	gotta go, good luck min.	01:14
min	ty	01:14
min	thanks	01:14
svivian	!ati	01:15
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto	01:15
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svivian	min: try that link the ubotu just put up. It should have good info for you on getting that card to work. Unfortunately, I have to go.	01:16
min	k	01:16
min	bye	01:16
min	its a radeon mobility 9000	01:16
min	ubotu	01:17
min	that site is kinbda down	01:17
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Tommy2k4	1024x768 makes my eyes bleed	01:18
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Tommy2k4	hmm now xmms and amarok wont play at all	01:20
Tommy2k4	amarok wont even open	01:20
Tommy2k4	and xmms freezes	01:20
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Tommy2k4	oo maybe its cos its trying to play a network share thats not turned on	01:23
Tommy2k4	hopefully	01:23
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omeow	Tommy2k4: Do you really want to go through all this trouble to get your machine working?	01:28
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omeow	You've been at it the whole evening.	01:29
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Tommy2k4	would you rather go back to windows omeow ?	01:30
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omeow	For certain things I would yeah. But I don't want to start another holywar about that.	01:31
Tommy2k4	lol	01:32
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omeow	Is there a reason why the kubuntu forums are so hidden?	01:36
omeow	It takes like 5-6 clicks before I'm finally in the forums.	01:37
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min	how can I change my screen reso to 1024x768?	01:38
min	its locked at 640x480	01:38
DaSkreech	!resolution	01:38
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto	01:38
Wodger	monters contol pane?	01:38
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min	command not found	01:39
min	Im on kubuntu	01:39
min	nvm	01:39
min	I got it	01:39
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min	yea	01:44
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min	it didnt work	01:44
min	Im on two monitors	01:44
min	on is broken	01:44
min	and the another on eis fine	01:44
min	I need to fix the one that works foine to 1024x768	01:44
DaSkreech	Have you checked the wiki?	01:44
min	yea	01:44
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min	the resolution wiki page is down	01:45
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min	can someone help me?	01:45
Hawkwind	Can someone tell me why if I try to remove the Ubuntu nvidia packages that it wants to remove linux-386 and linux-686 ?? Aren't those my kernel packages that are installed ?	01:46
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min	hello?	01:47
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min	fuck	01:49
min	can someone help me?	01:51
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Hawkwind	min: Watch the language please	01:51
min	sorry	01:51
Hawkwind	min: Patience man. People have lives and don't just sit and stare at IRC waiting on you to ask a question	01:51
min	how would I chaneg my reso?	01:52
min	sorry	01:52
Hawkwind	Look in systemsettings maybe	01:52
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min	no	01:53
min	its locked at 640x480	01:54
min	Ill like to change it to 1024x768	01:54
Hawkwind	min: Have you looked at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to see what it's set to there maybe ?	01:55
min	I did chack but I have no clue what anything means ;]	01:55
min	Im on two monitors if it helps	01:55
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whizz-	is there a tool to search through text files?	01:57
Hawkwind	grep	01:58
Hawkwind	find	01:58
Hawkwind	Not sure exactly what you mean by search tool for text files though	01:58
whizz-	to search through the content of a batch of text files	01:59
Healot	sed, awk, gawk, and perl (no exactly a text processor, but does it)	01:59
Hawkwind	find and grep can do it along with what Healot stated	02:00
h3sp4wn	grep is the obvious answer	02:00
Hawkwind	Can someone tell me why if I try to remove the Ubuntu nvidia packages that it wants to remove linux-386 and linux-686 ?? Aren't those my kernel packages that are installed ?	02:00
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Healot	Hawkwind: meta package	02:00
Healot	will be removed, but the actual kernel packages will not	02:01
Hawkwind	Healot: So it's not going to break my system if I remove linux-386 and linux-686 ?	02:01
whizz-	thx	02:01
[Nirvana]	Hawkwind: no	02:01
Healot	yes, if you're not upgrading kernel	02:01
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[Nirvana]	Hawkwind: but install 686 before you remove 386	02:01
Hawkwind	Healot: I want to remove all the Ubuntu nvidia stuff and install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com instead	02:01
OOD	it's the same driver	02:01
Hawkwind	[Nirvana] : I have linux-686 installed since I run an SMP/HT system	02:01
Healot	sure, you can absolutely do that	02:01
h3sp4wn	They are the same ones aren't tey ?	02:01
OOD	the one in the repository and the one from the nvidia site is the same	02:02
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: No idea. I thought the drivers came out on nvidia.com before Ubuntu packages them	02:02
OOD	yea that one comes out first	02:02
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Hawkwind	So I want the nvidia.com stuff so that I can update or so that when I do an apt-get upgrade my nvidia drivers don't break with an update	02:02
h3sp4wn	They will break more if you use the nvidia drivers	02:03
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Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: Ummm how so ?	02:03
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: I've used them for years in Mandriva without an issue	02:03
Healot	Hawkwind: if you dont know what you're doing	02:04
h3sp4wn	Everytime you have a kernel update you have to upgrade the module	02:04
Hawkwind	Healot: Well I'm not a n00bie by no means	02:04
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: Right. That's not a problem	02:04
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: Or an Xorg update for that matter	02:04
h3sp4wn	If you use the ubuntu ones then it won't break when linux-restricted-modules is updated	02:04
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Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: What about if the kernel gets updated ?	02:05
Healot	Hawkwind: I am not saying you're a noob	02:05
h3sp4wn	then the restricted modules are updated before the metapackage is changed	02:05
Healot	even experienced users f***ked up	02:05
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: My real question is, if a new kernel gets updated does the linux-restricted-modules come out at the same time for it ?	02:05
h3sp4wn	before linux-image-x is updated then yes	02:05
Hawkwind	Healot: Heh I know you weren't implying that. Didn't mean to say it that way	02:06
Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: But linux-image and linux-restricted come out at the same time ?	02:06
h3sp4wn	Within half a day usually	02:06
Hawkwind	I'm just not familiar with how Ubuntu does stuff quite yet	02:06
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Hawkwind	h3sp4wn: Ah ok. Then I'll stick with what I have. Thanks for the info	02:06
h3sp4wn	usually the image goes in first but unless you manually install it then it won't get installed until linux-image-x is updated (which would be when the restricted modules are ready)	02:07
h3sp4wn	(Only ever affected me once when I wanted a driver that was in a later kernel)	02:08
h3sp4wn	(but needed it then to do something else)	02:08
DaSkreech	Why Cant I Invert Selection in Konqueror?	02:08
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Healot	DaSkreech: you need to select the menu Select First	02:10
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DaSkreech	Healot: Huh?	02:10
Healot	after entering the wildcard, then you can invert selection	02:10
Healot	DaSkreech: just ignore me then :=	02:10
DaSkreech	After I select some stuff Shouldn't Ctrl+* invert it?	02:11
OOD	hmm, that works fine for me	02:12
DaSkreech	Ok it started working again	02:12
DaSkreech	X-Treme System Lag perhaps?	02:13
OOD	kde's a bit buggy	02:13
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OOD	so it's probably some random bug somewhere or something	02:13
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Silenced	hey all I just installed kubuntu desktop how do I remove all this gnome stuff is there a way to get rid of it all in one shot	02:17
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OOD	i had a bookmark with all the packages that made up gnome, so it was a matter of copy and paste	02:18
OOD	but the bookmark is gone	02:18
OOD	i'll try to the page if i can	02:18
OOD	try to find*	02:19
Healot	namely things that started with "G" and libgtk/libglib	02:19
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Silenced	that would be awesome thanks	02:19
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OOD	ah found it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde	02:20
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Healot	damn, why not both? be greedy you little :=	02:20
OOD	eh?	02:20
DaSkreech	Healot: Like gwenview?	02:20
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Silenced	thanks OOD	02:21
d_hollin	hey guys need some help with the repos need the non free ones	02:21
OOD	Silenced: No problem :)	02:21
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bimberi	!repos	02:22
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	02:22
d_hollin	need list of repos	02:22
DaSkreech	!tell d_hollin about repos	02:22
Healot	in constrast gwenview isn't for Gnome :=	02:22
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Healot	should rename it to Kwenview	02:23
Healot	Germans	02:23
OOD	o.0	02:23
Healot	no offence, KDE team are mainly Germans, which is Kool	02:25
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DaSkreech	kdefreak: Hooray!!!!!!	02:28
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OOD	lol	02:28
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DaSkreech	kdefreak: Kome to Klimb the KDE Kabal!!	02:29
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kdefreak	;)	02:29
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byen	hey guys	02:32
kdefreak	hi	02:32
byen	how can i find edit the startup programs on kde	02:33
byen	and how can i disable auto-session saving	02:33
Huahua	byen: run kcontrol	02:34
Healot	byen: KDE Menu = > System Settings => KDE Component	02:34
kdefreak	shoot brb have to switch	02:34
Healot	Select "Session Manager"	02:34
byen	I dont have kcontrol	02:34
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byen	ok got kcontrol	02:36
byen	how can i disable adpet from loading on startup..? eveytime i get an update.. i have a hard crash	02:37
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byen	*adept	02:37
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gnomefreak	i guess im not using kde for a while :(	02:37
Huahua	byen:	02:38
DaSkreech	Boooooo!!!	02:38
OOD	eh? what happened?	02:38
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gnomefreak	kde is missing something important	02:38
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OOD	whats that	02:38
RadiantFire	gnomefreak: what is it missing?	02:38
Huahua	byen: sudo rm /usr/share/autostart/adept_notifier_auto.desktop	02:38
gnomefreak	it dont boot	02:38
RadiantFire	lol	02:38
RadiantFire	yeah, thats something all right	02:38
RadiantFire	why on earth doesn't it?	02:39
gnomefreak	its missing kdelibbase and somehting else	02:39
byen	Huahua: isnt there a graphical option	02:39
RadiantFire	maybe you should try installing that silly!	02:39
RadiantFire	byen: why does it hardcrash?	02:39
Huahua	byen: I don't know	02:39
gnomefreak	thats what i get for running kde on edgy i guess	02:39
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RadiantFire	gnomefreak: yeah, they fixed gnome, silly devs prioritizing gnome :-)	02:39
byen	RadiantFire: no ideal... adpet just hangs after dloading the updates	02:39
gnomefreak	RadiantFire: it was the latest libqt3 updates	02:39
OOD	edgy's in production already??	02:39
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RadiantFire	OOD: noooo!	02:39
gnomefreak	OOD: no its broken	02:40
gnomefreak	lol	02:40
RadiantFire	you personally, thats cool :-)	02:40
Healot	damn, developers	02:40
gnomefreak	on my system	02:40
RadiantFire	once they release an alpha or 2 I might try running edgy on this laptop	02:40
gnomefreak	they fixed it right after i did within a day	02:40
bonbonthejon	when is edy due to come out	02:40
byen	I have 2 major issues with Kubuntu.. everytime i extract a file.. there is a crash... and everytime I have an update... Kubuntu crashes and i have to power off	02:40
gnomefreak	bonbonthejon: pct 25	02:41
RadiantFire	byen: really...	02:41
gnomefreak	oct 25th	02:41
byen	RadiantFire: :( yes	02:41
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bonbonthejon	cool, week before my birthday	02:41
byen	I really love kubu bit i am so scared to see updates now	02:41
bonbonthejon	is kde4 going to be in edgy	02:41
RadiantFire	no	02:41
bonbonthejon	hmm :(	02:41
gnomefreak	bonbonthejon: not looking like it	02:41
RadiantFire	kde4 probably won;t be releaed until early next year	02:42
=== RadiantFire prays the devs get it out before vista
bonbonthejon	true	02:42
OOD	hehe vista's gonan get delayed again i bet	02:42
RadiantFire	i hope so	02:42
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bonbonthejon	even when its released it won't work on a lot of pcs	02:42
RadiantFire	kde4 is gonna rock, and it comes out before vista that would be a good boost	02:42
Healot	2007 summer will be the earliest	02:42
Healot	since Mr. Gates is away for a while	02:43
RadiantFire	they claim theys still on track	02:43
RawSewage	is he vactationing with Warren	02:43
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RawSewage	vacationing	02:43
Healot	But I am waiting for Vista, hope it is not as expensive as Windows XP retail price	02:44
RadiantFire	haha	02:44
RadiantFire	yes it will be	02:44
Healot	wait, it's gonna be	02:44
RadiantFire	xp is as expensive as hell	02:44
OOD	it'll be just as expensive probably	02:44
OOD	or even more	02:44
RadiantFire	I started work today at compusa, they keep xp behind the shelves cuz its so expensive :-)	02:44
bonbonthejon	and you will have to pay for using it, as in time-sharing, possibly	02:44
RawSewage	Vista was designed to make people buy new computers	02:45
Healot	my inside source say, it will 15-20% more expensive... cause the medium is DVD etc... and longer support time than XP	02:45
OOD	yep	02:45
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Healot	hmm... I'll go for Dell PC OEM then...	02:46
bonbonthejon	is konfetti a program, cuz I think it would be fun	02:46
bonbonthejon	I might learn to program for kde to write it	02:46
Healot	bonbonthejon: you can start now...	02:47
bonbonthejon	if I know vb.net, how hard is it to switch to mono	02:47
Healot	virtually not hard... because Mono is getting .NET-like every day	02:48
bonbonthejon	cool	02:48
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Healot	They are working on Windows Forms completion	02:49
DaSkreech	Not too hard though :(	02:49
DaSkreech	`shutdown -r`	02:50
Healot	but, bonbonthejon, you need to program with C# as mono currently uses C# heavily...	02:50
bonbonthejon	i've done C++	02:50
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Healot	hohoho those two are different -)	02:50
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bonbonthejon	c++ and vb.net	02:51
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Healot	btw, you can convert VB .net code to C# code using SharpDevelop	02:51
RadiantFire	ewww... C#	02:51
Ashex	Is it possible to install Kubuntu to a laptop that has no Floppy/CD-rom drive and can't boot from usb?	02:51
Healot	and port/compile the code with Mono	02:51
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RadiantFire	no	02:51
OOD	yea, through the network card	02:51
Ashex	hmm	02:51
Healot	Ashex: yes via network	02:51
Ashex	any guides on installing over network?	02:52
RadiantFire	OOD: hows he gonna boot it?	02:52
Ashex	wait, google will know....	02:52
Healot	hehe	02:52
OOD	you can boot with the network card	02:52
Healot	if you have another PC running the installer	02:52
OOD	i've never tried it before, but it can be done, somehow ;)	02:52
RadiantFire	very few computers can boot from a network card	02:52
Healot	and a crosscable or switch etc...	02:52
bonbonthejon	buy a converter and plug the hdd in a px	02:52
bonbonthejon	pc*	02:52
Ashex	Hmm	02:53
Ashex	Oh, another question I got.	02:53
Ashex	How the deuce would I install ndiswrapper on a computer that doesn't have a network connection. I don't have the build-essential module or kernel-headers	02:54
Ashex	only connection it had was a wireless usb adapter, but it won't work without ndiswrapper	02:54
Healot	Ashex: the brand of that usb adapter?	02:54
bonbonthejon	download the package and burn to cd, unless this is te lappy	02:54
Ashex	um	02:54
Healot	!wireless	02:54
Ashex	WG111v2	02:54
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:54
OOD	yea	02:54
Ashex	I checked ubuntuforums already	02:54
Frederick	folks anyone else feeling eclipse is DAMM slow under kubuntu?	02:55
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bonbonthejon	what is eclipse	02:55
Frederick	I got it wotking fine in gentoo I have java 1.5 here	02:55
Frederick	bonbonthejon, java IDE	02:55
Healot	it's Java, make the VM memory larger, with the -X switch	02:55
bonbonthejon	done that too, lol	02:55
farous	i installed eclipse from the eclipse websit and running fine here update is great too	02:55
Healot	damn java -h for that	02:55
Frederick	Healot, how?	02:55
Ashex	Healot, that doc doesn't help at all. All the docs I've found assume I have ndiswrapper installed	02:56
Ashex	which I don't	02:56
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Healot	Ashex: my second question. do you understand the documentation?	02:56
Ashex	Yes, I do	02:56
Healot	!hardware	02:56
ubotu	For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport	02:56
Healot	up to where do you understand the doc?	02:56
Frederick	Healot, how do I do it?	02:57
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Ashex	I've checked, the device will work under ubuntu	02:57
Ashex	however for some reason it won't connec to any networks it picks up	02:57
Healot	Frederick: java -h	02:57
Ashex	I checked the ubuntu forums and it works with ndiswrapper	02:57
bonbonthejon	can you scan for networks	02:57
Ashex	however I am not able to install ndiswrapper-utils as I don't have a network/internet connection	02:58
Ashex	Yes, I can scan	02:58
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Healot	WPA enabled Ashex?	02:58
Ashex	I've tried using a static connection but that hasn't worked	02:58
Ashex	no, it's not	02:58
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Ashex	I'm not at the computer, it's about 20 minutes away from me, so I can't really do live testing. But I checked everything I could think of	02:58
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Ashex	sooo....any suggestions?	03:01
Frederick	no change, anyone here ever set the java VM memory?	03:01
bonbonthejon	ashex, sorry	03:02
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Ashex	Well, poop	03:05
Ashex	Then here's yet another question! ^_^	03:05
karvr	opera versus firefox folks, which one is better and safer?	03:05
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Ashex	Using a crossover cable between my laptop and that desktop should give it network connectivity if I'm connected wirelessly, right?	03:06
unix_infidel	Ashex: not automatically, no.	03:06
Ashex	yeah, I haven't setup a crossover connection in linux before, what extra steps are needed?	03:07
TheHighChild	Is anyone able to help troubleshoot a sound issue? IBM T42	03:07
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xwolf-	i downloaded a dvd, with a folder structure (not an iso image). it has the main folder, then the VIDEO_TS folder, then the VOB files and so on.. i tried to play them choosing Open Folder (translating from PT-BR) in Kaffeine, the main menu opens but i cant navigate through it... any tips?	03:15
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TheHighChild	xwolf-: Try VLC	03:19
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xwolf-	that's another program?	03:19
OOD	yea	03:20
xwolf-	lemme see	03:20
TheHighChild	xwolf-: I use the VLC media player for everything. It seems to work where nothing else will. Also make sure you have the libcssdvd codec	03:20
TheHighChild	Any folks running thinkpads?	03:20
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crimsun	TheHighChild: yep, X41-2527 here.	03:22
TheHighChild	crimsun: Do you have suspend to ram enabled?	03:24
crimsun	I do	03:24
TheHighChild	crimsun: Do you have sound issues with it?	03:24
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TheHighChild	I don't have sound since enabled suspend to ram yesterday	03:24
TheHighChild	I just tried something, I'll brb	03:24
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BKaj	What player does windows media in Kubuntu /KDE	03:25
BKaj	?	03:25
DaSkreech	BKaj: Kmplayer	03:26
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byen	is there an easy way to convert wma to ogg?	03:27
byen	or mp3?	03:27
TheHighChild	byen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92629	03:28
xwolf-	TheHighChild i cant find this libcssdvd	03:28
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TheHighChild	xwolf-: try this script sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh	03:31
TheHighChild	let me know if it works.	03:31
xwolf-	it installed libdvdcss2	03:32
TheHighChild	xwolf-: Cool. you need that to play dvd's	03:33
xwolf-	well, i choose open folder in kaffeine and still can't navigate the dvd menu	03:34
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xwolf-	fyi i dont have the physical dvd inserted, it's not a mounted image either. it's just a folder containing another folder called VIDEO_TS	03:35
TheHighChild	xwolf-: Try using VLC to view it.	03:36
TheHighChild	'apt-get install vlc'	03:36
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bobstro-away	yikes, they want us to change passwords again?	03:40
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xwolf-	damn, it worked.	03:41
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kristian	hello	03:41
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BKaj	hi kristian	03:41
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kristian	d u all use linux	03:42
BKaj	well, I'm trying :)	03:42
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kristian	how do u like it so far	03:42
bobstro	kristian: i do. and a lot of gadgets these days do!	03:42
OOD	it's pretty good ;)	03:42
kristian	wicth distro do u use	03:43
bobstro	kristian: for 99% of what i do, it's ideal.	03:43
bobstro	kristian: i'm using kubuntu right now.	03:43
BKaj	kubuntu 6.06 AMD64	03:43
kristian	i use kubuntu 6.06	03:43
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kristian	me to i use amd64 kubuntu 6.06 on a celeron d 336	03:44
TheHighChild	Anyone that was following my Sound issue with my IBM T42. Turns out I needed to mute PCM sound in my kmix. That seems to have fixed the trick.	03:45
kristian	what kind of hardware do u guys run linux on	03:45
OOD	a64 3200+	03:46
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kristian	is it a homemade pc u built your self	03:46
OOD	yep	03:46
bobstro	kristian: i've run linux on just about everything from a 386, and kubuntu specifically on a64 and right now on my dell d600 laptop.	03:47
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TheHighChild	kristian: AMD64 3000+ (run in 32 bit cause 64 blows) and an IBM T42	03:47
Kreuger	can changing the kernel config when attempting to install a new kernel ruin your current kernel setup?	03:47
BKaj	not mine ...was too lazy ...but have an old one I built yrs ago on my network	03:47
bobstro	Kreuger: no, that should be fine.	03:47
kristian	what r your detailed specs	03:47
bobstro	kristian: i've ONLY run home-built pc's.	03:47
BKaj	you'll end up with 2 choices at at boot up	03:47
kristian	me 2	03:47
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crimsun	TheHighChild: no, I don't have sound issues with this one; do you?	03:48
fiyawerx	hey guys, anyone know any good sites that compare the different window managers?	03:48
Kreuger	for some reason my sound disappeared and all I did was try to get my new kernel working. sound was working fine until I rebooted back into this kernel because the new one didnt work. i thought maybe it was from changing the config	03:48
fiyawerx	so far i like kubuntu best, but want to try out some other ones	03:48
bobstro	kristian: the ONLY hardware that's been a real issue has been the stupid built-in wireless on this laptop. i bought a netgear card today and am using it now.	03:48
bobstro	fiyawerx: i've seen a few, but find i really have to try them myself.	03:48
TheHighChild	crimsun: I just muted PCM in my kmix and it was alright.	03:48
bobstro	fiyawerx: any sites more than a year old are likely out of date.	03:49
MehAdult	fiyawerx: I agree with bob, but I like Xfce and E17	03:49
OOD	my integrated sound card doesn't have hardware mixing so i don't get surround sound in linux :(	03:49
BKaj	Compaq Presario SR1734X AMD64 Venice CPU, 1gig RAM, 160G HDD at 2Ghz	03:49
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: Trust me, Dapper is as good/solid/easy as it gets	03:49
fiyawerx	MehAdult: just tried e17, its pretty, but not my thing really	03:49
MehAdult	fiyawerx: Why not?	03:49
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: im not debating ubuntu, just the window manager	03:49
kristian	my specs r celeron d 336, asus p5rd2-vm, WD 160GB SATA2, asus 16X dvd-Burner	03:49
crimsun	OOD: hardware mixing (as the term is commonly abused) isn't relevant for surround sound...	03:49
fiyawerx	MehAdult: eh, doesn't run that great over nomachine remote control :)	03:49
fiyawerx	MehAdult: lots of missing window parts and whatnot until i refresh the desktop by going into another one then back	03:49
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: Gotcha. I hear that. i debate that all the time as well. I've just grown too attached to the addon packages	03:49
fiyawerx	MehAdult: might wait until release on that one	03:50
Kreuger	anyone got a clue for me?	03:50
bobstro	fiyawerx: for MYSELF, xfce is good for older machines. for others that ask me a lot of questions, kde or gnome are best.	03:50
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: addon packages in the window managers? you lost me	03:50
OOD	crimsun: thats	03:50
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OOD	crimsun: that's what i understand, what is then?	03:50
xwolf-	TheHighChild just wanted to thank you, it worked.	03:50
TheHighChild	xwolf-: Np man. VLC pwns.	03:50
fiyawerx	bobstro: nod, might give xfce a shot, im on mostly remotely, kde actually works nice via the nomachine, im surprised	03:50
crimsun	OOD: did you use plug:surroundXX (replacing XX with your config)?	03:50
fiyawerx	bobstro: will try out xfce and some others just to see how they are	03:51
crimsun	OOD: e.g., a 5.1 -> plug:surround51	03:51
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: Yeah, KDE provides Konversation, Kmail, etc, etc. I dig those packages. That is what I meant	03:51
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: nod, so far been using kopete and konversation, so anything else im going to be comparing to them :)	03:51
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: You can still run them without KDE	03:51
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: nod, that too, i don't know, im picky when it comes to that tho, it just doesnt LOOK right hehe	03:51
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fiyawerx	TheHighChild: or feel right, rather	03:51
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: I hate Kopete. The blue heads make me wanna flip. I use gaim	03:51
OOD	crimsun: my integrated card isn't capable of surround sound in linux, it has surround in windows because in windows it's done through software surround, but the linux driver can't do software surround	03:52
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: not too good with the theme custimization yet either, so if i change the look of kde around i might like it	03:52
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: Perhaps a nother theme? Baghira looks like OSX	03:52
Hawkwind	Anyone know a source to get audacious by chance ?	03:52
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: altho with the dockbar and whatnot it runs like crap over remote	03:52
crimsun	OOD: sure it can.	03:52
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: will try it	03:52
Kreuger	anybody?	03:52
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OOD	crimun: really? if you can help me get it working then that would be awesome	03:52
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: have you considered ssh for your remote operation needs? Remote servers (VNC) are not secure at all	03:52
crimsun	OOD: if your chipset doesn't align with the predefined surroundXX ones, you can define your own routing	03:52
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: might even go with one for my local desktop like kde with fancy stuffs, and then something like xfce for my remote virtual desktop	03:52
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: im not using vnc, im using nomachine's server/client, it routes everything via ssh	03:53
OOD	crimsun: alright, so how would I do that	03:53
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: and its SOOO much faster than vnc	03:53
crimsun	OOD: /all/ the routing is software-based in alsa-lib	03:53
MehAdult	Yeah E17 needs to be released first lol	03:53
crimsun	OOD: see the surround sections on alsa.opensrc.org	03:53
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: im going from work into my machine at home on cable and it's _almost_ like im sitting at the desktop, i can load up web pages with images, even drag the window around almost realtime	03:53
TheHighChild	fiyawerx: Nice, that's why it's so slow then. At least it's secure. I use ssh with the -X option when I need a graphical interface but I'll try out your method sometime	03:53
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: animations you can tell tho	03:53
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: nomachine uses some proprietary compression i think, its really not that slow, except with animations, but i could even see the e17 startup logo, so thats a good thing	03:54
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: but htings like the application menus and whatnot are just about realtime	03:54
OOD	crimsun: you mean setting it in the .asoundrc file?	03:54
bobstro	fiyawerx: nomachine sets up for you?	03:55
OOD	crimsun: this? http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ028	03:55
fiyawerx	TheHighChild: vnc used to even disconnect me just viewing my desktop sometimes, with nomachine i was browsing deviantart no problem	03:55
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fiyawerx	bobstro: i got it to install in about 30 seconds :) 8 commands, i put a post about them	03:55
fiyawerx	bobstro: using the new version, not using freenx	03:55
bobstro	fiyawerx: oh, got a link?	03:55
fiyawerx	bobstro: nomachine released a new free server, 2 simul. connection max	03:55
fiyawerx	bobstro: sure one sec	03:55
bobstro	fiyawerx: i just got the putty/openssh socks proxy working. :)O	03:55
crimsun	OOD: yes, in a custom ~/.asoundrc	03:56
fiyawerx	bobstro: i didn't even need to mess with that, i just did an apt-get install openssh-server or whatever it is then the rest of the commands and it all worked by default	03:56
fiyawerx	bobstro: sec for the link	03:56
crimsun	OOD: your hardware may vary considerably, which will take experimenting on your part	03:56
OOD	crimsun: i already tried that a while ago, this is only possible if the card is capable of hardware mixing which mine is not	03:56
bobstro	fiyawerx: ok, good. i've got the ssh server running at the house already.	03:56
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fiyawerx	bobstro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174492#post1174492	03:57
crimsun	OOD: no, it means you've not gotten the routing yet	03:57
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crimsun	OOD: it has nothing to do with pcm multiplexing, believe me	03:57
crimsun	OOD: my card has no hardware mixing [sic] , and it can do surround	03:58
fiyawerx	bobstro: note: i didn't use apt-get, these are new releases, but they worked perfect	03:58
OOD	crimsun: ok so what would i have to do now?	03:58
crimsun	OOD: take the routing (ttable) variables and play with them	03:58
bobstro	fiyawerx: thanks. i've been doing per-port forwarding, and it gets tedious.	03:59
bobstro	fiyawerx: only recently noticed the socks support!	03:59
fiyawerx	bobstro: i didn't need to do anything but port 22	03:59
fiyawerx	bobstro: you can route all the nomachine info through it with a checkbox on the client setup	03:59
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OOD	crimsun: i doubt this'll work, what happened when i tried to use the .asoundrc file set to 5.1, and what i got was instead of 5.1, i had just regular 2.1 but louder and distorted	04:00
OOD	crimsun:which means i had all the channels playing in stereo	04:00
crimsun	OOD: does your hardware have any surround control toggles (cf. ``amixer'')	04:01
crimsun	?	04:01
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OOD	don't know, i have an integrated alc'658	04:01
fiyawerx	bobstro: i didn't have to do any of the editing the people under my post mention	04:02
fiyawerx	bobstro: thats _all_ i had to do on the server, then get the client for xp from nomachine.com	04:02
bobstro	hmmm. very interesting.	04:02
bobstro	fiyawerx: are you using kde clients with it?	04:03
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fiyawerx	bobstro: i have, and they worked fine too	04:05
pipitas	fiyawerx: rubbish you tell when stating "NoMachine uses proprietary compression"! The NX Core libs are all GPL.	04:05
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fiyawerx	pipitas: ok, im corrected then, i meant it as its not the same rdp or vnc use	04:05
fiyawerx	pipitas: my bad	04:05
OOD	crimsun: any ideas?	04:05
Kr4t05	Hrm...	04:05
kike	pero que es esta mierda	04:05
Kr4t05	Is there any reason why Frostwire would just stop working?	04:06
fiyawerx	pipitas: i meant it as in their own, thought thats how it was, because its faster than any other program i've used	04:06
kike	alguien habla espaol?	04:06
Kr4t05	!tell kike about es	04:06
crimsun	OOD: I need to see ``amixer'' output before I can answer	04:06
Kr4t05	ubotu tell kike about es	04:06
crimsun	(use pastebin)	04:06
kike	mother fockers	04:06
Kr4t05	...?	04:06
kike	kiss my ass americans	04:07
Kr4t05	Oi... -.-	04:07
Kr4t05	Oi vey...	04:07
Hawkwind	Anyone have a good source to get audacious from by chance ?	04:07
Hawkwind	For Dapper that is	04:07
Kr4t05	Someone explain that...	04:08
Kr4t05	First, he flames.	04:08
Kr4t05	Then, he LEAVES...	04:08
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Kr4t05	WTF??	04:08
chip42	seems like a typical pattern to me	04:08
Kr4t05	Yeah... true...	04:09
OOD	crimsun: sending the text with the output	04:09
TheHighChild	!tell Kr4t05 about repos	04:09
chip42	i don't have a lot of faith in people though :(	04:09
TheHighChild	does that work?	04:09
Kr4t05	Yeah	04:09
TheHighChild	Sorry for the spam. I wasn't sure of the syntax. I thought it would post global	04:09
Kr4t05	I wasn't sure if it was working for him.	04:09
Kr4t05	Right	04:09
Kr4t05	No big.	04:09
Kr4t05	It didn't tell me if it had sent him anything.	04:10
eXCeSS	anyone know ftp servers with gui?	04:10
TheHighChild	me either, I'll presume it works then	04:10
eXCeSS	that arent pureftpd	04:10
pipitas	fiyawerx: yes, "NX' roundtripsupression + compression + cache = speed + responsiveness over slow links" is completely NoMachine's development	04:10
TheHighChild	eXCeSS: You want an FTP client or a GUI server setup?	04:10
pipitas	fiyawerx: but it is based on X -- in effect, it is an X11 protocol extension	04:10
eXCeSS	gui server	04:11
pipitas	fiyawerx: where the protocol extension is implemented in the nxcomp library	04:11
TheHighChild	eXCeSS: Webmin should allow you to perform FTP setup in a graphical mode	04:11
eXCeSS	TheHighChild: thank you	04:11
TheHighChild	eXCeSS: You can try proftpd also	04:12
fiyawerx	pipitas: thanks, still new to this, i was just happy to get it working :) struggled for 2 days with freenx, then saw that they released their own free server now, and poof, it worked, hehe	04:12
fiyawerx	pipitas: except i think their server is max 2 simul. connections or something for "free"	04:12
eXCeSS	TheHighChild: is that standard with gui or is it an addon	04:12
Kr4t05	I'm installing Cedega from CVS. Once the script is done, and Cedega has been "set up" I try to run cvscedega. Nothing happens. Did I do something wrong.	04:13
TheHighChild	eXCeSS: Sorry, here's a graphical frontend http://mange.dynup.net/linux.html	04:13
ScottLand	If i have a Mac address can i resolve the IP? and how	04:15
eXCeSS	thanks	04:16
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TheHighChild	ScottLand: Every network card has a MAC address. It doesn't mean you have an IP	04:17
TheHighChild	ScottLand: The MAC is hard-coded into every network interface card.	04:17
TheHighChild	ScottLand: Catch me on Private if you have questions	04:17
TheHighChild	eXCeSS: NP, let me know how that works out. I'd be interested in it myself.	04:18
AQUI_TU_NICK	hi	04:18
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AQUI_TU_NICK	can i run "cmd" from wine?	04:18
TheHighChild	AQUI_TU_NICK: You mean like the windows command line?	04:19
AQUI_TU_NICK	yes	04:19
AQUI_TU_NICK	i want to use DOS	04:19
AQUI_TU_NICK	can I?	04:19
OOD	why would you want to?	04:19
OOD	you have the linux command line	04:19
AQUI_TU_NICK	cause i have a prices list make in foxpro for DOS	04:19
TheHighChild	AQUI_TU_NICK: no, it doesn't emulate the OS, it only provides an application layer to programs. It won't emulate any sort of system	04:19
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fiyawerx	TheHighChild: i installed that theme via adept, but not sure where it went to use it?	04:20
AQUI_TU_NICK	ok, thats my preoblem	04:21
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TheHighChild	fiyawerx: kmenu > System Settings > Appearance	04:21
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fiyawerx	TheHighChild: oh, you have to change each one manually?	04:21
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TheHighChild	fiyawerx: A couple places will store options for this theme. Check "styles" thought, That should be the main place	04:21
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	i was messing with the kde look and i dont like what came out , is there a command that will restore all the settings to the default???	04:22
AQUI_TU_NICK	i have a prices list made in foxpro for DOS, i have to run in linux, i try dosbox, but is slowly	04:23
AQUI_TU_NICK	how can i solve this problem?	04:23
CaBlGuY	wuttup peeps..	04:23
CaBlGuY	!Java	04:23
ubotu	java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	04:23
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CaBlGuY	ok, I got java installed apperently BUT I can't get it to run like on web sites and stuff so.. what gives??	04:25
crimsun	CaBlGuY: is sun-java5-plugin installed?	04:26
CaBlGuY	anyone.. today.. maybe.. hello..	04:26
CaBlGuY	ummm yes..	04:26
CaBlGuY	must be en echo in hjere	04:26
crimsun	"echo"?	04:27
crimsun	I don't see anything in your statements regarding that package being installed	04:27
CaBlGuY	yes... ya silly willy.. I got sun-java5-jre installed	04:27
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CaBlGuY	well Duh.,... Java...	04:27
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crimsun	sun-java5-jre != sun-java5-plugin	04:27
CaBlGuY	read up /\	04:27
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crimsun	and Java != (either of those packages)	04:27
crimsun	anyway	04:27
CaBlGuY	anyway..	04:28
crimsun	which Web browser are you using?	04:28
CaBlGuY	so I need to "install" plugin then..	04:28
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CaBlGuY	firefox mainly..	04:28
crimsun	and the plugin isn't listed in about:plugins?	04:28
crimsun	dpkg -l sun-java5-plugin\|grep ^ii	04:28
CaBlGuY	ok.. apt-get install?	04:29
crimsun	what's the output from the above dpkg command?	04:29
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CaBlGuY	Oh hang on	04:29
suea	can anyone tell me why my wireless network device isnt enabling?	04:30
CaBlGuY	no output crimsun	04:30
crimsun	suea: sea lions	04:30
crimsun	CaBlGuY: yes, then install sun-java5-plugin	04:30
CaBlGuY	ok..	04:30
crimsun	(much as I suspected)	04:30
AQUI_TU_NICK	how do i mark java to all page i will visit	04:30
crimsun	note that installing sun-java5-jre doesn't automatically install sun-java5-plugin	04:31
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CaBlGuY	ok, all done.. now anything else??	04:31
crimsun	CaBlGuY: restart your Web browser?	04:31
CaBlGuY	gimme a sec..	04:31
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DaSkreech	Good bye Lexi!	04:32
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CaBlGuY	ok, workin now.. thanks crimsun ;)	04:32
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CaBlGuY	and I promis.. I won't ever talk bad about ya again.. :p	04:33
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OOD	crimsun: can you still help me out with the sound card? ill send over the amixer output	04:33
ScottLand	hey if I downloaded some linux files would i need to install them through ADept Manager??	04:34
crimsun	OOD: I'm pretty busy (at work)	04:34
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fiyawerx	hah, this is pretty neat	04:39
fiyawerx	yakuake	04:39
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fiyawerx	heh, i don't think im going to find anything i like better than kde	04:40
ScottLand	Hey can someone help me out real quick wit gettin an app up and running	04:40
CheeseBurgerMan	ScottLand: What app?	04:40
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OOD	crimsun: ah ok, another time then, thanks :)	04:40
ScottLand	aircrack-ng	04:41
ScottLand	i downloaded the .taz.gz file	04:41
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CheeseBurgerMan	OK, it's probably the source you downloaded.	04:41
ScottLand	yea	04:41
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CheeseBurgerMan	Alright, extract the archive 'tar zxvf name-of-archive.tar.gz'	04:42
ScottLand	yes sir did that	04:42
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CheeseBurgerMan	OK then, run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential	04:43
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ScottLand	blah blah blah package build-essential has no installation candidate	04:43
ScottLand	package build-essential is not available	04:44
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CheeseBurgerMan	Have you enabled multiverse/universe?	04:44
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ScottLand	no sir i dont believe so	04:44
CheeseBurgerMan	!sources	04:45
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	04:45
fiyawerx	anyone gotten halo pc to run under kubuntu?	04:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	where is desktop settings wizard?	04:45
thompa	the sound went off after a reboot	04:45
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fiyawerx	!easysource	04:46
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	04:46
thompa	system settings sound is hardwactdetere auto	04:46
fiyawerx	ooh thats nice	04:46
thompa	touchpad cant disable either	04:46
thompa	qsyanptics now has all the options greyed out for some reason	04:47
thompa	ive changed nothing though	04:47
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thompa	anybody know how to get rid off the friggan touchpad?	04:48
CheeseBurgerMan	thompa: I have a button that does that on my computer, never investigated software methods.	04:49
thompa	its a sony notebook	04:50
thompa	funny thing is qsynaptics worked until today	04:50
thompa	other problem is no sound after reboot	04:53
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ScottLand	!easysource	04:54
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	04:54
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AQUI_TU_NICK	where do i get a working dosemu	04:59
AQUI_TU_NICK	?	04:59
OOD	dosbox	05:00
AQUI_TU_NICK	not dosbox	05:00
AQUI_TU_NICK	dosemu	05:00
AQUI_TU_NICK	i need a fast dos emulator	05:00
CheeseBurgerMan	http://dosemu.org ?	05:00
dr_willis	hmm	05:01
fiyawerx	do you guys think it'd be silly to have a seperate window manager for doing stuff remotely just to be faster?	05:01
dr_willis	dosbox is a dos emulator last ii looked.	05:01
fiyawerx	like using kde at home but xfce at work? or whatever really	05:01
dr_willis	fiyawerx, depends on the tasks.	05:01
dr_willis	I use fluxbox for my vnc sessions	05:01
dr_willis	or icewm, or windowmaker	05:01
fiyawerx	yeah, im just trying to decide what the heck to use this box for now that i get it set up hehe	05:01
fiyawerx	yeah havn't looked into those yet	05:01
Hawkwind	Anyone have a good source to get audacious from by chance ?	05:02
fiyawerx	i mean i don't even think i have any problems using kde from work, im just kinda lost lol, everything works i just don't know what else to do	05:02
Hawkwind	For Dapper that is	05:02
dr_willis	i got my main fileserver set to spawn gdm in a vnc sessinn when i connect.	05:02
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fiyawerx	cus like i want to set up the dockbar and stuff, but thats too slow even over nomachine's client	05:03
fiyawerx	so i'd need something lighter for when i'm at work	05:03
TheHighChild	CheeseBurgerMan: Are you still around?	05:03
fiyawerx	kxdocker, that's the one i tried	05:04
CheeseBurgerMan	TheHighChild: Yep	05:04
dr_willis	i find all these fancy desktops get in the way.. i seem to just run a few programs and thats it.	05:04
fiyawerx	thats what i usually end up doing, but i figure i can custimize it, might as well play around a bit	05:05
TheHighChild	CheeseBurgerMan: Hey man. i helped ScottLand get his repos in order and he got build-essential. Did you know what he was doing? if so, if not, I can try and figure things out for him	05:05
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CheeseBurgerMan	He was installing aircrack-ng	05:06
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TheHighChild	CheeseBurgerMan: is that something you are familiar with? if not, I can look things up and help him. I wasn't sure if you knew what he's trying to do or not.	05:07
CheeseBurgerMan	That's about what I knew -- I'm not even sure what aircrack-ng is.	05:07
TheHighChild	CheeseBurgerMan: Ok, it's for wardriving I believe. I'll look into the docs. Thanks.	05:08
CheeseBurgerMan	Alright. Good luck. :)	05:08
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ScottLand	man i feel like such a baby gettin all u to help me	05:08
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ScottLand	thanks for ur help	05:09
CheeseBurgerMan	Not a problem, although I'm not really doing anything.	05:09
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Hawkwind	No one here has a source for audacious for Dapper ?	05:11
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CheeseBurgerMan	Hawkwind: What's wrong with the stuff at http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads ?	05:12
robitaille	Hawkwind: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/audacity/	05:13
robitaille	oops...wrong link :)	05:13
Hawkwind	CheeseBurgerMan: I'd like to have deb packages preferrably	05:13
unix_infidel	Hawkwind: there's a how-to on the forums.	05:14
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CheeseBurgerMan	Hawkwind: Oh, I figured you meant the source.	05:14
CheeseBurgerMan	Sorry 'bout that.	05:14
Hawkwind	CheeseBurgerMan: Heh nah	05:14
Hawkwind	unix_infidel: Got the link handy ?	05:14
dr_willis	'use the source luke!'	05:14
GullyFoyle	hrm i created a session type "freenode" in konsole that would run "irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n GullyFoyle -w mypassword" and it works fine. but konsole automatically gave it a shortcut - ctrl+alt+f. is this normal? seems like a feature that could produce trouble if you already have that keychain bound to something else.	05:14
unix_infidel	Hawkwind: just a sec	05:15
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unix_infidel	http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195867	05:15
unix_infidel	Hawkwind: ^^^^	05:15
Hawkwind	unix_infidel: Thanks man	05:15
unix_infidel	this is what I used, it seems to be working fine EXCEPT for the skin issue which is really buggin me.	05:16
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Hawkwind	unix_infidel: Awesome. It uses all 168 skins that I have :)	05:22
unix_infidel	Hawkwind: xmms skins?	05:22
lucero_7	anyone know off the top of their head which plugin handles window shade over in compiz?	05:22
lucero_7	need to turn the damn thing off	05:22
Hawkwind	unix_infidel: xmms, winamp. I've got a mixture of both	05:22
unix_infidel	Hawkwind: how big is the folder, mind emailing them to me?	05:22
Hawkwind	unix_infidel: I can give you some. About 65 or so	05:23
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unix_infidel	Hawkwind: shrug i'll take what i can get. Mind putting them on a share	05:24
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ScottLand	if i downloaded source files from a website... i then extracted the .tar.gz and then did sudo make	05:41
ScottLand	when tried to launch that app from kon i get command not found	05:41
ScottLand	anyone know why	05:41
noiesmo	ScottLand, normally when you download src files you need to do	05:42
noiesmo	./configure	05:42
noiesmo	make	05:42
noiesmo	make install	05:42
Hobbsee	ScottLand: which app?	05:42
ScottLand	aircrack-ng	05:42
noiesmo	and you will need to sudo -i before i suggest so you do it as root user	05:42
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Hawkwind	What's wrong with sudo apt-get install aircrack ?	05:43
driz	lol	05:44
ScottLand	aircrack-ng is the new one	05:44
Hawkwind	Ummm, what's the difference that you need -ng ?	05:44
ScottLand	lol i dont know the admin in the channel said itll fix my problem	05:44
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ScottLand	so i extracted it to a folder	05:44
Hawkwind	Yeah, I'd trust him for sure, NOT	05:44
ScottLand	i went into console	05:44
ScottLand	and tried	05:44
Hawkwind	ScottLand: Read the README or INSTALL file that came in the unpacked directory	05:45
ScottLand	sudo -i make install	05:45
ScottLand	how do i do that	05:45
ScottLand	sorry ive only had this OS for like 6 hours	05:45
Hawkwind	Open it in a text editor of your choice	05:45
ScottLand	k	05:45
Hawkwind	kwrite README or kwrite INSTALL or whatever	05:45
Hawkwind	Hobbsee: BTW, xchat-2.6.4 got uploaded to Edgy yesterday or the day before :)	05:45
Hobbsee	Hawkwind: nice :)	05:46
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Hawkwind	Now with spell check capabilities	05:46
Hobbsee	not if kdelibs* is borked.	05:46
RawSewage	how do you uninstall a Wine program that doesnt have an uninstaller	05:46
Hawkwind	Heh yeah. Kinda pointless when kdelibs* is broken	05:46
Hawkwind	RawSewage: Delete any directories it has maybe ?	05:46
RawSewage	is that it?	05:47
RawSewage	thats messy	05:47
Hawkwind	I couldn't tell ya. If Windows is the best job for what I need, I just use Windows	05:47
Hawkwind	I've never touched Wine, and plan to keep it that way	05:47
RawSewage	thats irrational	05:47
Hawkwind	No. You use the best tool for the job actually :)	05:48
Hobbsee	RawSewage: probably ask in #winehq	05:50
RawSewage	ty	05:50
Hobbsee	!wine	05:51
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	05:51
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Kr4t05	Has anyone else had luck getting XGL and Compiz working.	05:53
Kr4t05	I managed to get it to work, all except for the cube plugin, but that could be because I use TwinView.	05:54
me2win	Kr4t05: i got it working a few months ago during a dapper flight, but thats it	05:56
me2win	haven't tried since then	05:56
Kr4t05	Yeah, it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be.	05:56
Kr4t05	The only thing I regret, is never getting the cube to work. ><	05:57
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Fiyawerx	hey guys, whats the difference between the live cd and the dvd versions?	06:03
Fiyawerx	other than 3 gigs	06:03
Hawkwind	Live CD you don't have to install anything if you don't want to	06:03
flake	the cd i burnt fit on a cd - non dvd	06:04
Hawkwind	The DVD version IIRC is like the alternate CD where you have to install it. No Live CD feature	06:04
flake	ubuntu + kde	06:04
flake	kde d/l	06:04
Fiyawerx	i mean i don't mind installing it, just wondering what the 3 gig difference is	06:04
macd	anyone have any recomendations on a good mysql GUI ? similar to phpmyadmin but not a web based app, I tried kmysqladmin, but its pretty sloppy i its interface	06:05
Hobbsee	Fiyawerx: all of the stuff in main & restricted is on the dvd	06:05
Fiyawerx	oh, nice	06:06
Hobbsee	which you can just download, if you've got a reasonable internet connection	06:06
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Fiyawerx	so for like my network drivers and whatnot that don't work without restricted in -25	06:06
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Fiyawerx	yeah 5mb here, almost never max it out even	06:07
Fiyawerx	i have the cd install and i had everything working with that, figured i'd give the dvd a shot this time 'round	06:07
Hawkwind	I do all the time. But that's probably not best discussed here	06:07
Hawkwind	Heh	06:07
Fiyawerx	hehe	06:07
Fiyawerx	yeah torrents and whatnot, im happy if im getting 300k	06:07
Fiyawerx	at work i can get around 1.3 MB per sec :)	06:08
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	where is desktop settings wizard?	06:08
Fiyawerx	downloaded like 3 gigs of music in an hour the other day	06:08
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Fiyawerx	good connection + newsgroups = rocks	06:08
cecil	:)	06:08
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	where is desktop settings wizard?	06:09
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Fiyawerx	and oh, PC (Intel x86) install/live DVD	06:09
Fiyawerx	so its live dvd too	06:09
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DaSkreech	Anyone uses NetBeans	06:10
Kr4t05	Does anyone know what dir the screen savers are stashed in for 6.06?	06:10
Kr4t05	I want to try xwinwrap	06:10
Hawkwind	Kr4t05: /usr/share/screensavers ?	06:10
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DaSkreech	Kr4t05: Look at kscreensaver in adept and check installed files	06:10
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driz	1	06:12
moparisthebest	i use netbeans DaSkreech	06:12
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DaSkreech	moparisthebest: It has a GUI Builder?	06:13
moparisthebest	yes DaSkreech the best gui builder I found	06:13
moparisthebest	I even tried paid ones	06:13
moparisthebest	and netbeans is way better	06:13
DaSkreech	moparisthebest: Where is it? :)	06:13
DaSkreech	I found a pallete	06:14
moparisthebest	where is the gui builder?	06:14
moparisthebest	ill open it up and tell you one second :)	06:14
DaSkreech	moparisthebest: Yep. I created a new Java project and Went to Gui builder	06:14
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moparisthebest	ok DaSkreech, you right click your default package and go to new> jframe form	06:16
moparisthebest	or new> jpanel form	06:16
moparisthebest	can anyone maybe help me with this error, its probably an easy fix	06:17
moparisthebest	error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.	06:17
moparisthebest	I installed the gtk libraries from adept i believe	06:17
moparisthebest	but how would I do what it tells me to? I dont know how to edit enviromental variables in linux :(	06:18
Hobbsee	!search gtk	06:18
ubotu	Found: gtk, browsers, p2p	06:18
Hobbsee	!search libgtk	06:18
ubotu	Found nothing	06:18
Hobbsee	stupid bot.	06:18
Hobbsee	moparisthebest: did you grab libgtk2.0-dev	06:19
Hobbsee	?	06:19
moparisthebest	ill check now	06:19
DaSkreech	ok	06:19
moparisthebest	nope, im grabbing it now	06:20
moparisthebest	hopefully that will fix it :)	06:20
DaSkreech	moparisthebest: Yay It crashed :)	06:20
moparisthebest	rofl thats nice	06:20
DaSkreech	Cool now I know how to build it though Thanks!!!	06:20
moparisthebest	no problem	06:20
moparisthebest	watcha building? or just playing around?	06:21
moparisthebest	thanks alot Hobbsee that got it :D	06:21
Hobbsee	moparisthebest: yay :)	06:22
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DaSkreech	moparisthebest: A bank	06:24
moparisthebest	nice	06:27
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orient2000	Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:	06:38
orient2000	Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time	06:38
orient2000	Please close the other application e.g. 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.	06:38
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orient2000	Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:	06:41
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orient2000	[00:38] --> _matt has joined this channel (n=matt@pool-72-76-27-59.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net).	06:41
orient2000	[00:38] <orient2000> Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:	06:41
orient2000	[00:38] <orient2000> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time	06:41
orient2000	[00:38] <orient2000> Please close the other application e.g. 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.	06:41
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Hobbsee	orient2000: please dont repeat. and i'd say that you had adept/synaptic/apt-get open while trying to update?	06:42
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orient2000	They are not open.	06:43
dr_willis	one may of crashed and left a lock file	06:44
orient2000	If they are open and I do not see it how can I kill them?	06:45
dr_willis	im thinking the lock file is /var/apt/SOMTHING :) (like lock)	06:47
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dr_willis	use ps ax \| less and see whats running	06:47
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rApChIlE	wena	06:47
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dr_willis	Hmm.. not there.. lets see	06:48
rApCHiLe	hola	06:48
rApCHiLe	hello	06:48
Hobbsee	orient2000: in a console, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a	06:48
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orient2000	[00:48] <Hobbsee> orient2000: in a console, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a not found	06:51
Hobbsee	sudo dpkg-configure -a	06:51
Hobbsee	sorry, i can never remember which way around it is :P	06:51
flake	I've got a few questions - is my /home/user-name folder considered the folder I should save images or write to?	06:51
flake	what about the /root, /bin, is that where the installed programs and data go?	06:52
ChefWill	!alias	06:52
ubotu	I know nothing about alias	06:52
ChefWill	:{	06:52
[Evil] [Ernie] _	flake: all the installed stuff usually goes to /usr or /bin or /sbin maybe	06:52
ChefWill	!shortcut	06:52
ubotu	Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net	06:52
dr_willis	flake, thats the direcytory that all the users files should be saved to.. in fact it should be the ONLY directory (normally) writeable by the user.	06:52
ChefWill	;/	06:52
Hobbsee	flake: yes /home/user is often referred to as ~, and is what you save things too	06:52
dr_willis	flake, /root is special home dir for the root user.	06:52
flake	root is like for the admin only?	06:53
Hobbsee	flake: usually you dont have to install programs manually like that - there are scripts that do it for you - and there's apt-get, of course	06:53
Hobbsee	flake: yes, you shouldnt run as root	06:53
[Evil] [Ernie] _	root == admin	06:53
flake	i think wolf-et installed to my /usr/local/...	06:53
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flake	had to use sudo (super user?)	06:54
orient2000	sudo dpkg-configure -a command not found	06:54
[Evil] [Ernie] _	anyone else have lag problems using multiple desktops?	06:54
DaSkreech	orient2000: try sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:54
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dr_willis	[Evil] [Ernie] _, depends a lot on the cpu and video card and window manager.. and your video card drivers.	06:54
hybrid	I just cant believe anyone would start a band just to make the scene and be cool and have chicks. I just cant believe it. - Kurt Cobain in 1991	06:55
hybrid	err	06:55
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orient2000	sudo dpkg--configure -a cccommand not found	06:56
BlankB_	[Evil] [Ernie] _: I had it really bad. using a nvidia fx-5200. Now im using an ati 9550 and no problems.	06:56
DaSkreech	orient2000: try sudo dpkg --configure -a	06:56
dr_willis	:)	06:56
orient2000	It did something. Let me boot.	06:58
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flake	what about reading ntfs drives, is it safe to do so	07:05
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	has anyone got the partypoker running on linux?	07:06
Hobbsee	flake: yep	07:06
Hobbsee	flake: just not write	07:06
Hobbsee	DaSkreech: ah, was that it...	07:07
flake	ok	07:07
DaSkreech	Hobbsee: Should get a !installcrash bot response :)	07:07
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DaSkreech	Hobbsee: Well if some people can't remember the command/url and lots of people ask for it we make a bot respose right?	07:08
DaSkreech	!b-e	07:08
ubotu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)	07:08
DaSkreech	!resolution	07:09
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto	07:09
DaSkreech	!women	07:09
ubotu	The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.	07:09
Hobbsee	DaSkreech: true...	07:09
DaSkreech	How about an !installcrash	07:09
Lynoure	hmmm	07:09
Lynoure	!men	07:09
ubotu	I know nothing about men	07:09
Hobbsee	!msg	07:09
ubotu	Please ask your messages in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.	07:09
Hobbsee	hmm.	07:09
Hobbsee	!msgthebot	07:09
ubotu	Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots	07:09
Lynoure	Why does it answer on the channel if asking it on the channel is not ok?	07:10
ChefWill	!o p	07:10
ubotu	I know nothing about o p	07:10
Hobbsee	hehe...good point	07:10
Lynoure	It's not like anyone flooded the bot now	07:10
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DaSkreech	ubotu knows nothing about men	07:11
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	has anyone got the partypoker running ?	07:11
Healot	game?	07:11
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Healot	never heard of that before...	07:11
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	yeah , the game	07:11
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	pertypoker.com	07:11
arcturus	hi, is this the Windows help forum?	07:11
arcturus	lol	07:12
Healot	damn	07:12
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DaSkreech	!xgl	07:12
ubotu	Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	07:12
Hobbsee	arcturus: hehe, no, try ##windows	07:13
DaSkreech	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can It run on Linux?	07:13
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: someone did, either here or on #ubuntu, under wine	07:13
Healot	I saw a lot of WINE bs on mrbass.org	07:14
arcturus	noticed a number of screensavers don't work	07:14
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Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: wasn't even tough, just normal install on wine. But alas, I no longer have logs for that (these channels cause a lot of log)	07:14
Healot	Irfanview, DVD Decrypter, DVD shrink on wINE are there...	07:14
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nixternal_	forget irfanview on wine...try out XnView...same thing but for linux...works great	07:15
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: is it a lot of work to get wine installed?	07:15
Healot	both aren't free anyways :-	07:15
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no, you can apt-get it	07:16
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Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: it's in Universe	07:16
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: is it just one package that i need?	07:20
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Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: apt will pull the packages wine needs for you.	07:21
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: But for added prettiness you might want to install msttcorefonts too	07:21
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: alrighty , thank you	07:22
Healot	I need to drink Chateau 1972	07:22
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: good luck. Is the poker thing an online poker game? :)	07:23
arcturus	anyone notice automatix has gone thru 8 changes ... in 8 days	07:23
kkathman	maybe someday they'll get it right :)	07:24
DaSkreech	Can I use system settings to switch between GDM and KDM?	07:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: yeah , u can play for real money or for free, i didnt want to install it on windoez , but i figures linux is safer so ill give it a try	07:25
Hobbsee	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: the version in universe is reallly old	07:25
Hobbsee	unless you're on dapper	07:25
Hobbsee	i think.	07:25
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	im on dapper	07:27
Healot	duck	07:27
Healot	sorry Dapper Rat	07:27
Healot	Showing the world just how charming rats are!	07:28
DaSkreech	LIke Mickey Mouse!!	07:28
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: It might be the same one where my friend is making more money than in their dayjob... but that just means other people are losing.	07:28
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: yup , i just play for free, i can only see wine dummy packages in the repos , i added the wine repo tho	07:30
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=== Topic for #kubuntu: Kubuntu Support Channel \| FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions \| https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuDapperKnownProblems \| Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ \| Please don't paste into the channel, use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com \| Please take off-topic conversations to #kubuntu-offtopic
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unix_infidel	!vim7	07:37
ubotu	I know nothing about vim7	07:37
unix_infidel	!vim 7	07:37
ubotu	I know nothing about vim 7	07:37
farous	!find vim > unix_infidel	07:38
ubotu	Found: vim, vim-common, vim-doc, vim-gnome, vim-gui-common (and 15 others)	07:38
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: weird, I could see wine in Universe. Do you have Universe in your sources list?	07:38
farous	ubotu: try packages.ubuntu.com and see if it is there	07:38
unix_infidel	farous: nope.	07:39
farous	unix_infidel: try packages.ubuntu.com and see if it is there	07:39
unix_infidel	not there...	07:39
farous	sorry made a mistake with this tab compl	07:39
farous	unix_infidel: so probably not there yet	07:39
unix_infidel	i would've apt-get'ed by now.	07:39
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	Lynoure: yup , its alright , im gonna compile it from source , im gonna use the guide on wine website , ty	07:40
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rodrigo	Hello	07:41
Hobbsee	vim7 will probably be in edgy	07:41
unix_infidel	Hobbsee: anyway to get it for dapper?	07:41
Hobbsee	unix_infidel: possible backport in a while, otherwise compile it	07:41
unix_infidel	3rd party repo or backport?	07:41
unix_infidel	arg.	07:41
rodrigo	how can i go to a channel of kubuntu in spanish	07:42
crimsun	she means dapper-backports, which are hosted on ubuntu servers.	07:42
Hobbsee	thanks crimsun	07:42
Hobbsee	!es	07:42
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	07:42
Hobbsee	rodrigo: ^	07:42
crimsun	Hobbsee: ponies please	07:42
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Hobbsee	crimsun: noyoucanthaveapony kthnksbye	07:42
crimsun	waaah :(	07:43
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min	heyy	07:49
Healot	hey the dual monitor again?	07:49
min	yep	07:49
min	I still need help	07:49
Kr4t05	min, ATI or nVidia?	07:49
min	ati 9000	07:50
min	radeon mobile	07:50
Kr4t05	....Hrm...	07:50
min	laptop	07:50
min	monitor acer	07:50
Kr4t05	I have no clue.	07:50
min	darn it	07:50
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Kr4t05	I'm an NVIDIA TwinView monkey.	07:50
Kr4t05	Sorry	07:50
Healot	copy the section monitor (the existing entry), change the name and vertical/horizontal refresh, resolution, and color depth and restart X	07:50
Healot	that	07:50
Healot	according to the second monitor specification....	07:51
min	np	07:51
min	uh huh	07:51
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600	07:51
min	Im on a acer al1714b where can I get the specs for it?	07:52
cvt\|expert	how do i get win32codecs?	07:53
Melchiorre	use the seveas depositories http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/	07:54
Melchiorre	the package is called 'w32codecs'	07:54
cvt\|expert	ah ty	07:54
Melchiorre	np	07:54
min	where can I get specs for the acer al1714b?	07:54
cvt\|expert	:(	07:58
Melchiorre	no luck cvt\|expert?	07:59
cvt\|expert	nope	07:59
cvt\|expert	i searched synaptic for w32codecs and win32codecs	08:00
Melchiorre	did you add the seveas extras repo? 'deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas dapper-seveas extras'	08:01
cvt\|expert	no, but i will now	08:01
Melchiorre	:)	08:02
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cvt\|expert	command not found	08:10
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cvt\|expert	i think i'm using breezy	08:11
Melchiorre	oh	08:11
Melchiorre	oops	08:11
Melchiorre	well there are breezy repos too	08:11
Melchiorre	I think	08:11
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min	yea	08:12
min	i still cant change it	08:13
min	only if I had one monitor	08:13
min	but thats not happening	08:13
min	any tips?	08:13
Melchiorre	cvt\|expert: deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas breezy-seveas extras	08:15
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min	darn it	08:17
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Healot	min: do you install Windows by chance?	08:20
min	I did	08:20
min	but I reforamted	08:20
min	and I dont have it anymore	08:20
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600	08:20
Healot	you need to either i) refer to the back of the monirot	08:20
Healot	ii) google?	08:21
min	yea	08:21
min	wait	08:21
Healot	or manual	08:21
min	How do I open my xorf.conf in kubuntu	08:21
min	Im not the root suer so I cant change anything	08:21
Healot	add "sudo" before the command to edit the file	08:22
farous	min type sudo before the command then input your username	08:22
Healot	and enter your password	08:22
Healot	!root	08:22
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	08:22
min	ok	08:22
min	I put that into my xorg.conf file	08:22
min	actually	08:22
min	the information was alredy there	08:22
min	but I think that info was for my broken monitor	08:22
min	and not the external one that I hope to use	08:22
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Healot	min	08:23
Healot	paste the output of your xorg.conf file	08:24
Healot	!pastebin	08:24
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	08:24
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Healot	use that link.... don't paste here	08:24
min	got it	08:24
min	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16602	08:25
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Healot	min: and probably the output of "lspci -v"	08:26
min	?	08:26
min	what do I do?	08:26
Healot	to check your graphics card settings	08:26
_rince_	mrgn	08:26
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min	yea	08:26
min	it gave me a bunch of text	08:26
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min	should I paste them?	08:27
Healot	i want that text :)	08:27
Healot	sure	08:27
min	kl	08:27
Healot	btw, there is only ONE monitor/screen entry	08:27
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min	yea its weird	08:28
min	ionno	08:28
min	I dunno how to fix it	08:28
min	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16603	08:28
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Healot	mmkay. i am writing an example for your ATi dual monitor config (xorg.conf)	08:31
min	k	08:31
Healot	wait	08:31
min	so thats what I should write in there?	08:31
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min	dum de dum dum	08:37
Healot	wait, writing the comments too	08:37
min	k	08:37
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Healot	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo >> Full explanation	08:39
bulltitan	can i play a winxp game by using vmware?	08:39
Healot	damn take forever to load	08:39
min	lol	08:39
Healot	yeah, if you installed XP using VMware	08:40
weihello	yeas	08:40
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Healot	http://pastebin.com/732656 > min	08:40
bulltitan	great	08:40
bulltitan	thanks!	08:40
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min	loading.	08:40
weihello	your computer is thirst, give it some water....	08:41
min	uh huh	08:41
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min	loading	08:42
Healot	ask if you understand the settings	08:42
min	still loading	08:42
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600	08:42
min	are u sure its right?	08:43
min	its still loading	08:43
Healot	wait	08:43
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hsn_	how to set domain name? i know about hostname for seting host name, but how to set domain?	08:43
min	yea I think its bad link	08:43
min	the other guys went lighting fast	08:43
Healot	http://pastebin.com/732656	08:43
min	loooading	08:44
weihello	you can set it in networksetting	08:44
min	ok it worked	08:45
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weihello	system->systemmanagement.	08:45
min	rwar thats long	08:45
min	so where do I put this?	08:45
weihello	hsn_	08:45
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Healot	min: in the xorg.conf...	08:46
min	cna u tell me the code to open the xorg.conf file in terminal so I can edit it?	08:46
min	cuz if I just open it up	08:46
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Healot	replace the existing settings...	08:46
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Healot	hum	08:46
raphink	min: depens what editor you want to use	08:46
min	I dont have permission	08:46
Healot	you're in KDE right?	08:46
min	I have kate	08:46
min	yea	08:46
raphink	vi/emacs/nano, etc.	08:46
Healot	!sudo	08:46
ubotu	sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.	08:46
raphink	ah right	08:46
raphink	sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf then	08:47
min	k	08:47
Healot	"kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then	08:47
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raphink	Healot: that also works :)	08:47
Healot	next enter your password when prompted	08:47
min	alright	08:47
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Healot	HorizSync 30-31.5 >> add the appropriate setting (number like in the example)	08:48
min	k	08:49
min	I got it	08:49
Healot	min I would suggest that you jot down the "Monitor" settings, by attaching one monitor at one time	08:49
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min	so just replace everything with what I have?	08:49
Healot	VertRefresh 70 << this too	08:49
Healot	yes!	08:49
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min	k	08:49
Healot	bang	08:49
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Healot	do one monitor at a time, record the settings, then add the entry in the example i gave you	08:50
cotroler	hello	08:50
min	I dotn have the specs for my monitor	08:50
cotroler	how do i install GNOME for kubuntu pls? (i have KDE)	08:50
min	I cnat find it in google either	08:51
min	get ubuntu	08:51
Healot	min: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" while plugging each monitor at one time...	08:51
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crimsun	cotroler: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && mv -f ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ~/.gtkrc-2.0.bak	08:51
Healot	with that, your xorg setting will be change according to the monitor you have	08:52
cotroler	!gnome	08:52
ubotu	gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.	08:52
Healot	copy that setting into another file, preferably at your home directory	08:52
min	I cant take out th eother monitor	08:52
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min	its stuck to my laptop	08:52
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Healot	then take out the one that you can take out	08:53
cotroler	!ubuntu	08:53
min	then I cant see	08:53
ubotu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome	08:53
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min	cuz the othe one is broke	08:53
_cotroler	!gnome	08:53
ubotu	gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.	08:53
Healot	or easier... isntall the following packages "fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx xorg-driver-fglrx-dev"	08:53
_cotroler	how do i install gnome in kubuntu pls??	08:53
min	wait	08:54
min	it says	08:54
min	#Put appropriate vertical and horizontal refrest settings if necessary	08:54
min	so I dont have to?	08:54
min	or do I need to	08:54
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weihello	i run brood in wine last night. but it's slow...slow....slow.... my screen frozened	08:54
Healot	that's where you supposed to put the "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" settings, min	08:55
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min	k	08:55
Healot	anything taht start with # is a comment... min	08:55
min	I know that	08:55
Healot	http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85215.html << have you read this yet?	08:56
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Healot	mmmkay, I going to be away	08:56
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min	k	08:56
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min	wait	08:59
_cotroler	how do i install gnome for kubuntu pls???	08:59
Hobbsee	_cotroler: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop	09:00
_cotroler	tnx	09:01
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_cotroler	Hobbsee: is says cans find package ubuntu-desktop	09:01
Hobbsee	_cotroler: post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.ca and give us the link, please?	09:02
_cotroler	Hobbsee: how do i post that link pls? iam newbie to linux	09:03
KuLover	why are the hard rives being checked even though i have it set to 0 0 in fstab?	09:04
Hobbsee	hmmm...better still	09:04
Hobbsee	!repos	09:04
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	09:04
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ChefWill	Hobbsee: i do all my network stuff thru iwconfig now ;o	09:05
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Hobbsee	ChefWill: hehe nice	09:06
ChefWill	i need to make a batch file though	09:06
ChefWill	to automate it a bit	09:06
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fatejudger	join #ubuntu+1	09:07
fatejudger	I hate it when I do that...	09:07
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min	can 8ijI just leave the monitor name as fujisu?	09:08
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Hobbsee	away_bernd: please turn that away message off	09:18
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KuLover	What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?	09:20
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Melchiorre	fglrx	09:20
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farous	KuLover: the best driver for ati they are all bad lol. but i prefer the opensource ones	09:21
Melchiorre	KuLover: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide	09:21
Melchiorre	Depends if you want to run 3d games or not...	09:21
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KuLover	I agree,, they are all bad. I was hoping there was somthing better than fglex	09:22
KuLover	I have problems wile running x applications	09:22
KuLover	I do play 3d games	09:22
KuLover	PlanesSHift is one of them	09:22
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KuLover	It need 3D acell	09:22
Healot	I play 4D (gambling) :)	09:22
Melchiorre	bugger	09:22
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farous	KuLover: radeon on my card (open source drive) have 3d accel enabled	09:23
KuLover	farous, DO you have problems running X applications? Like FrostWire and stuch?	09:24
KuLover	My GUI crashed when I try to run things like that	09:25
KuLover	ALthough I can still move my mouse	09:25
farous	KuLover: nope	09:25
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farous	KuLover: hmm did you use an xorg.conf file that you configure in breezy?	09:25
KuLover	So I guess then fglrx are my only choice ><	09:25
KuLover	Im resorting to that now.. I was playing with other drivers and rendered my system un bootablt.. it just hangs on the kubuntu screen after loading	09:26
farous	KuLover: you should mostly try ati, radeon or fglrx.	09:27
KuLover	ati wont boot :/	09:29
KuLover	I have to go back to fglrx i suppose	09:29
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farous	KuLover: did you change the driver in the xorg.conf file and did you load the ati module in it?	09:31
KuLover	Rite now Im seeing if I can actually boot again ><	09:31
KuLover	Phew.. I made it!	09:31
KuLover	It boots	09:31
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KuLover	Yeah I tried ATI earlier..	09:32
moparisthebest	if I just mount an ntfs partition as read only it cant get corrupted can it?	09:32
KuLover	No go for my card :/	09:32
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min	wee not workking	09:41
min	I think I did somethign wrong	09:41
min	can u send me the pastebin thing again?	09:42
hybrid	!paste	09:42
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	09:42
min	mo	09:42
min	someone sent me this pastebin thing where it showed me what to do	09:43
hybrid	oh, sorry	09:43
hybrid	:p	09:43
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min	?	09:43
min	lol	09:43
min	It got me to a bootscreen where it froze	09:44
min	so I had to do ctrl+ f1	09:44
min	sigh	09:45
min	I give up	09:45
min	back to window for me	09:45
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farous	min can you state your prob again	09:48
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Wodger	pastbin = http://kubuntu.pastebin.com	09:49
Wodger	bookmark it?	09:49
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Hobbsee	Wodger: yes, that's the pastebin	09:53
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Hobbsee	!apache	09:54
ubotu	lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP	09:54
Wodger	heh no that was for min	09:54
Hobbsee	cotroler: see ^	09:54
cotroler	Hobbsee :)	09:55
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lubcho	can someone tell me how to create a shorcut for terminal command	10:00
lubcho	cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/	10:00
lubcho	and after that to execute command wine DictionDe.exe	10:01
lubcho	i tried with	10:01
lubcho	a shorcut	10:01
lubcho	command	10:01
lubcho	cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/	10:01
lubcho	& wine DictionDE.exe	10:01
lubcho	but the terminal stops with error msg	10:02
lubcho	cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/	10:02
lubcho	& wine DictionDE.exe	10:02
lubcho	ops	10:02
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lubcho	/bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `&'	10:02
lubcho	/bin/sh: -c: line 1: `& wine DictionDE.exe '	10:02
Hobbsee	!paste	10:03
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	10:03
Hobbsee	!enter	10:03
ubotu	Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.	10:03
Hobbsee	wrong command, first time	10:03
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Hobbsee	!symlink	10:03
ubotu	The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands	10:03
Hobbsee	hmm ok	10:03
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scheuri	hi all	10:07
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cotroler	hi scheuri	10:08
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lubcho	Anyone can give me an idea how to fix it	10:13
lubcho	im sure its a minor failture	10:13
Healot	fix whut?	10:13
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lubcho	this minor shorcut	10:13
lubcho	error	10:13
lubcho	how to link 2 commands	10:14
omeow	lubcho: Surely there are German dictionaries on the web? :)	10:14
lubcho	like 1st cd and then wine app.exe	10:14
lubcho	omeow: They are... but not bg-de de-bg :)	10:14
omeow	bg being Bulgarian?	10:14
lubcho	Yep :)	10:15
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omeow	Ok, can you explain to me what it is you're trying to archive?	10:15
Healot	&&	10:15
Healot	cd && wine	10:15
omeow	*achieve	10:15
lubcho	dual?	10:16
omeow	Oh seperating commands.	10:16
omeow	You could also do cd ; wine or cd \| wine	10:16
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lubcho	aha... just a sec to try	10:18
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lubcho	nope	10:19
lubcho	not working bash.sh -c still prints syntax error :(	10:19
lubcho	some unexpected token	10:20
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lubcho	yay!	10:36
lubcho	working!	10:36
lubcho	love you omeow :P	10:36
omeow	What did I do?	10:36
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lubcho	the ; worked with and now it propertly runs and executes the commands	10:37
omeow	Oh ok. :) Have fun.	10:37
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ajayc	hi guys	10:55
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hsn_	where can i find program for generating otp responses, 331 Response to otp-md5 486 sd0108 ext required ?	10:57
starter	hello	10:58
starter	I have a problem with kubuntu, after the bbotup sequence, it enters xwindows, I can hear the sound, but the screen goes black	10:58
starter	the computer is 2000+ Athlon, GeForce 4 MX440, 256 DDRAM	10:59
starter	bootup sequence*	10:59
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starter	noone alive?	11:10
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yacek	hello	11:12
yacek	when I run applications from console I get this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, how to solve it?	11:13
hsn_	its normal, same there	11:13
yacek	but why?	11:14
edulix	hello kubuntusers :P	11:14
edulix	I think I've found a strange error in konqi	11:14
starter	uhm... I'll ask one more time	11:14
starter	I have a problem with kubuntu, after the bbotup sequence, it enters xwindows, I can hear the sound, but the screen goes black	11:14
starter	the computer is 2000+ Athlon, GeForce 4 MX440, 256 DDRAM	11:14
edulix	test: enter in http://www.jamendo.com/ and mouseover the links of the tags cloud. most of them don't seem links, but they are	11:15
edulix	(btw, I'm using kde 3.5.3)	11:15
edulix	hey noone tried? :(	11:16
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starter	uhm... noone with FeForce 4 MX440?	11:29
starter	GeForce	11:29
nik	where does kaddressbook save all the data?	11:31
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edulix	nik: probably somewhere in ~/.kde	11:37
edulix	that's where everything goes :P	11:37
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visik7	I've a usb pendrive	11:52
visik7	when I plug in it the kernel see 2 devices	11:53
visik7	while there is only one	11:53
visik7	why ?	11:53
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paul_	[dapperdrake] hi, how can I list disinstalled packages?	11:59
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nik	edulix: ya...but there is no data :x	12:00
nik	only configuration files..	12:00
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craigaa	Hi All, I am wanting to experiment with and get to know KDE. Am I likely to run into any obvious problems installing the kubuntu-destop meta-package on my production Ubuntu box?	12:04
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der_daniel	is drapper drake stable, yet?	12:15
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omeow	craigaa: What kind of problems?	12:17
omeow	der_daniel: Yeah, it should be. Haven't had any big problems yet.	12:17
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der_daniel	thanks, will give it a try then :D	12:19
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fiyawerx	!easysource	12:20
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	12:20
paul_	can you list the packages you uninstalled?	12:22
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omeow	Since when? Since ever?	12:22
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keyne	paul_: not sure that the best way to do it, but that's how i do it usually: dpkg -l \| grep ^r	12:27
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ajayc	eXCeSS, hi	12:32
ajayc	anyone here plays et?	12:32
omeow	et phone home	12:32
ajayc	Enemy Territory!	12:32
omeow	I play Alien Swarm	12:33
craigaa	omeow: Sorry, went for a sandwich. I don't know what problems I might encounter. Basically, I would like to know if there are any known gotcha's to installing kde on Ubuntu.	12:34
omeow	Uh, not that I know of. As far as I know. It just installs normally.	12:34
ajayc	craigaa, not at all	12:34
omeow	kubuntu-desktop I think you need.	12:35
ajayc	craigaa, but still if u wanna be safe get Kubuntu itself	12:35
ajayc	:)	12:35
craigaa	ameow, ajayc: Thanks,. I've got to be conservative as this is my work machine and cannot afford the down time.	12:35
craigaa	ajayc - Ubuntu Gnome is my working environment, but I want to learn KDE.	12:36
ajayc	craigaa, ok so then get kubunu itself	12:36
ajayc	use it as livecd	12:36
craigaa	hmm.. good point	12:36
craigaa	try before you buy ;-)	12:36
ajayc	craigaa, u just wanna learn kde?or want KDE on ubuntu?	12:37
craigaa	Is there a major difference?	12:37
ajayc	can be	12:37
ajayc	u can use slac	12:37
omeow	I think there is. :)	12:37
ajayc	slax	12:37
ajayc	it is fast and small	12:37
ajayc	to learn KDE	12:37
ajayc	:p	12:37
ajayc	u dont have to get 695mb	12:37
craigaa	hmm, KDE will always be secondary on my box as the internal std is Gnome...	12:37
ajayc	get 195 mb	12:38
craigaa	but I would like to get to know it ...	12:38
ajayc	u can get to know kde from SLAX	12:38
craigaa	and there seem to be some really cute kde apps	12:38
ajayc	ah	12:38
ajayc	get KNOPPIX	12:38
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keyne	omeow: is there a linux version of Alien Swarm ?	12:38
ajayc	:)	12:38
ajayc	keyne, www.3dgamers.com	12:38
omeow	keyne: Alien Swarm (not infested) is a mod for UT2004 so yeah, it'll run on Linux.	12:39
craigaa	ajayc - will look at Kubuntu live and Knoppix - thanks	12:39
ajayc	craigaa, no	12:39
ajayc	n	12:39
ajayc	np*	12:39
ajayc	:)	12:39
omeow	Alien Swarm Infested will be built for source, and it hasn't been released yet.	12:39
craigaa	lol	12:39
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ajayc	tuxrobot, hi	12:39
ajayc	lmao	12:39
ajayc	that is my nick on my shell :)	12:39
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fiyawerx	do you guys prefer kopete or gaim?	12:58
omeow	I prefer konversation.	12:58
omeow	Instant messaging programs are too attention grabbing.	12:59
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fiyawerx	especially when you have 250 or so buddies on aim alone that wouldn't be too happy if you just stopped signing on	01:00
fiyawerx	which is why i was asking for a comparison :-P	01:00
fiyawerx	guess i'll just try'em both	01:00
omeow	Yeah.	01:00
fiyawerx	just redid a fresh install and am sitting here like ok, what do i do next heh	01:01
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omeow	fiyawerx: Yeah, once you've got Linux fully installed and working, there's not much to do anymore.	01:02
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omeow	Can't play games anyway. Might as well break Linux again and start fixing stuff. ;)	01:02
fiyawerx	hehe	01:02
Lynoure	omeow: There are games for Linux, just not that many	01:03
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fiyawerx	have to wait till later to get the multimedia working, moved over to my laptop/remote connection, too tired of sitting at the desktop	01:03
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fiyawerx	oh that reminds me didnt do my video driver yet	01:03
Lynoure	ATitD for example is a quite cool multiplayer game	01:03
[Nige]	i am running dapper but I cant install gtk2 because of dependancies	01:03
[Nige]	what the easiest way to fix this?	01:03
fiyawerx	ATitD?	01:04
Lynoure	fiyawerx: A Tale in the Desert	01:04
fiyawerx	havn't heard of that one	01:04
Lynoure	fiyawerx: google can tell you more, or atitd.com	01:04
fiyawerx	someone suggested enemy territory	01:04
h3sp4wn	Or you can play the neo geo arcade games with advancemame	01:04
fiyawerx	can't do much of that over a remote connection tho	01:05
h3sp4wn	Is the remote connection windows ?	01:05
fiyawerx	win xp laptop running nomachines client to the kubuntu desktop	01:06
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fiyawerx	i mean i mud and stuff, can set up some mud clients, but eh, not yet	01:06
h3sp4wn	There is a version of exceed which allows opengl over a network connection	01:06
fiyawerx	thats scary	01:06
fiyawerx	i mean i can run glxgears over this and whatnot	01:07
fiyawerx	but i get like 30 fps as opposed to 7000 at the desktop	01:07
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h3sp4wn	But fast enough to use it (Its ment for engineering type programs)	01:07
fiyawerx	interesting	01:07
fiyawerx	it's prob. meant for high bandwith networks too, altho that'd prob. work on the lan	01:07
larsivi_wrk	do anyone know if the svn plugin to eclipse is in the main repositories (and what would it be named)?	01:07
h3sp4wn	Its probably also expensive	01:07
fiyawerx	we have the newest version of hummingbirds exceed at work	01:08
fiyawerx	i never use it tho	01:08
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h3sp4wn	Exceed 3d is the one you need (never used it though)	01:09
fiyawerx	will check it out	01:09
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fiyawerx	hmm, aha, need firefox	01:10
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fiyawerx	im loving this yakuake program	01:13
h3sp4wn	What does it do ?	01:14
fiyawerx	makes a drop down terminal window when you press f12, and then it hides it when you hit f12 again	01:14
fiyawerx	can set it to use Konsoles settings by default	01:14
h3sp4wn	Is it a kde app though	01:14
fiyawerx	yes	01:15
fiyawerx	I found it by looking through the "whats new" screenshots on kde.org	01:15
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fiyawerx	htey call it Konsoles "sly" twin	01:16
fiyawerx	http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/18-terminal.png	01:17
h3sp4wn	I am running it (but it doesn't look like that - but seems pretty good	01:18
h3sp4wn	How do you make it start when you login to kde ? - just put it in .kde/Autostart or do you know a better way ?	01:18
fiyawerx	hmm, good question	01:18
fiyawerx	and if your ight click and go to configure -> use konsole's settings, then do the configure -> set as default, it'll open and look like Konsole	01:19
visik7	is normal that flash movies are desynced in konqueror ?	01:19
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fiyawerx	brb gonna reboot	01:20
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pussfeller	ever since the upgrade to dapper my computer has been sluggish	01:24
pussfeller	getting into the swap all the time	01:24
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fiyawerx	h3sp4wn: i rebooted and when x came back up, yakuake is already working	01:28
fiyawerx	didn't have to change anything / startup stuff	01:29
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fiyawerx	ok about to pass out	01:30
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h3sp4wn	hmmm - does ctrl shift n - work for you properly in yakuake ?	01:34
h3sp4wn	(i.e for a new tab)	01:34
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Chameleon22	i am using cyrus 2.1 with pam auth and sasldb - when i try to connect using cyradmin (cyradm --user cyrus localhost) I get an error: cyradm: cannot authenticate to server as user cyrus. Password appears to be in sasldb2 file and mail log displays the following error: "Jun 27 21:33:58 fatty cyrus/imapd[13599] : badlogin: localhost[127.0.0.1] DIGEST-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] " any ideas on how to fix that?	01:39
Chameleon22	Googled, checked out cyrus how-to's - no luck...	01:39
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deuce868	anyone know much about the kpdf package? When I go to print this pdf document it adds a ton of space above and to the right of each page	01:42
deuce868	so the printer seems to think it needs legal sized paper to print the document	01:42
deuce868	margins are set to 0, paper is set to letter	01:42
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deuce868	h3sp4wn, yep, it does work for me	01:43
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dutch	morning	01:43
Ertain	Hello everyone. I'm trying to install the latest Wacom drivers (version 7.4) since every time I use my tablet the stylus is off. The tip is barely 9 mm from the surface and it starts reacting. So I need the Xorg sources. When I look into Adept, it says that I will break my install. Any ideas on this one?	01:44
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h3sp4wn	deuce868: I have worked it out (I use ctrl alt n in konsole) so just had to change it from ctrl shift n which it was set to somehow	01:45
deuce868	ah, ok	01:46
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Ertain	I'm trying to build a driver, but when I try to install the xorg-dev pack, it says it'll break my install and it doesn't actually install. Any ideas on this one?	01:50
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deuce868	oh well, if I print using lpr and adobe reader instead of kpdf it prints fine so I guess I'm still ok	01:56
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Ertain	Okay, this is seriously messed up. I'm trying to build the Wacom drivers and for that I need to install xorg-dev, but it would break my install. Apparently the packs I have, or at least I'm trying to use are too new. And manually downloading them won't work, since it needs various other packs for it to work. Damn dependency hell.	02:12
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erik__	when trying to rip a CD with KAudioCreator: "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."	02:17
h3sp4wn	Ertain: Send the output you get to pastebin.ca (Is it xserver-xorg-dev that you are trying to install ?)	02:18
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gupta	Me is getting "Unable to open URL: http://localhost:631/printers" when using hp-toolbox ?	02:19
gupta	I can acces it from my browser	02:19
h3sp4wn	Are you trying to access the cups webinterface ? because its disabled by default in {k}ubuntu	02:20
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gupta	I can access the webinterface, the problem is I get the above message in konsole when I click a particular message in hp-toolbox.	02:22
Ertain	I'm trying to install xserver-xorg-dev, but it requires various packs, like libdrm-dev. I have no problem installing the various packs, but Adept keeps saying they'll break my install.	02:22
gupta	I meant when I click configure in the hp-toolbox	02:22
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Yusuke`	yo yo	02:27
Yusuke`	^_^	02:27
Tommy2k4	hm amarok still playing like a minute after i closed it	02:29
Yusuke`	ubuntu =D	02:29
Ryoga85	hi Yusuke`	02:30
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emonkeylap	Tommy2k4, killall amarok-app	02:30
Yusuke`	heya ^_^	02:30
h3sp4wn	Ertain: Have you all the repositories enabled ?	02:30
h3sp4wn	Ertain: Some parts may be in universe or multiverse	02:31
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Yusuke`	<>-={{_()()()(g)(H)()()(g) ()()(+) ()()()()_}}=-<>	02:32
Ertain	I have changed some of them from universe to multiverse, and back. Then I update the database and check again. But they would still be broken.	02:33
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Ertain	Okay, I think I've got it.	02:34
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Yusuke`	you have to partition your drives, update your binary's, patch the kernel	02:34
Yusuke`	it's just so easy	02:34
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Darkbyte	Hello, I'm using dapper and I need install php5-dbase package. But I'm not find it. Who I do to found it? Help me please !!!	02:49
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martynda	Darkbyte: sudo apt-get install php5-dbase	02:50
Darkbyte	apt-get install php5-dbase not found the package.	02:51
Jack1	hi	02:52
martynda	Darkbyte: hmm yeah, what are you trying to do?	02:52
martynda	you could open up synaptic and search for php5 and see which package you need	02:52
gupta	Darkbyte: just try "aptitude search php"	02:52
Jack1	when installing kubuntu 5.10 to a siemens lappie with dualcore centrino i get problems with the x-server	02:52
Jack1	no idea what to specify in x-server reconfigurexorg	02:53
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: You need dapper for dualcore to work properly	02:53
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Jack1	hiya	02:54
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h3sp4wn	hi	02:54
Tommy2k4	Why does konqueror say stalled in the status bar when i try to load up /media/network	02:54
Tommy2k4	i have a samba share mounted there	02:54
Tommy2k4	in /media/network/Emma	02:54
h3sp4wn	did you mount the sambashare with mount -t smbfs or smbmount ?	02:54
Tommy2k4	i also have a folder called /media/network/Dad which is showing up but i dont have anything mounted there	02:55
Jack1	h3sp4wn can i upgrade from the internet without x via apt-get?	02:55
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Yes	02:55
nixternal	Jack1: yes	02:55
nixternal	;)	02:55
Jack1	guys how?	02:55
Tommy2k4	it automounts //Emma when i boot up	02:55
nixternal	sudo apt-get update	02:55
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nixternal	sudo apt-get install	02:55
davide	hi	02:55
Tommy2k4	forgot what file you set that in	02:55
nixternal	cuz you will be at a command line if you aren't in X	02:55
davide	do you have trouble with kde??	02:55
davide	sometimes freez	02:55
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nixternal	Qt: 3.3.6	02:56
nixternal	KDE: 3.5.3	02:56
nixternal	kde-config: 1.0	02:56
nixternal	i have no problem with kde...it is great	02:56
h3sp4wn	Jack1: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	02:56
davide	me kde 3.5.2	02:56
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Darkbyte	I try it with apt-get,synaptic and aptitude and not found the package.	02:56
Jack1	nixternal h3sp4wn first update then install right? prob is that i installed a 383 kernel, having only this cd	02:56
davide	check the repository	02:56
Tommy2k4	h3sp4wn, i have "//Emma/C/media/network/Emmasmbfscredentials=/root/.smbcredentials00" in /etc/fstab	02:56
nixternal	yes Jack1	02:56
nixternal	that way there you loaded the latest repo info into cache	02:57
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: That command will changes sources.list (the old one will be called sources.list.bak) and then update and upgrade	02:57
Jack1	thank u h3sp4wn but i didnt set up the internet during install how do i that from commandline?	02:58
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Is it connect by wire or wireless ?	02:59
Jack1	wire h3sp4wn	02:59
h3sp4wn	Jack1: dhcp ?	02:59
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Jack1	h3sp4wn no dont think, dsl with password and username	03:00
h3sp4wn	Jack1: So its not thru a router ?	03:00
Jack1	no router afaik	03:00
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Tommy2k4	Could not resolve mount point /media/network/Emma	03:01
Tommy2k4	but when i try to mkdir it says it already exists	03:01
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Jack1	i got it h3sp4wn sudo pppoeconf	03:01
Jack1	h3sp4wn thank u that is right isnt it?	03:02
h3sp4wn	Yes	03:02
Jack1	pon dsl-provider h3sp4wn	03:02
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Jack1	thanks so much guys u save me!	03:02
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Jack1	need to go offline buy guys cu later	03:04
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vincent	heloooooo room	03:09
vincent	:)	03:09
GreyBear	Hi	03:09
GreyBear	Just did Upgrade, worked great	03:09
vincent	awsome Greybear	03:10
vincent	ciao	03:10
GreyBear	Expected to have to put alot of time into it and it was so easy a Windoze user could do it	03:10
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Nooreazy	I NEED HELP! PLZ	03:14
Nooreazy	installing firefox	03:14
jpatrick	sudo apt-get install firefox	03:15
Nooreazy	kool	03:15
emonkeylap		03:17
Nooreazy	nothing came up	03:18
Nooreazy	wierd	03:18
Nooreazy	and i cant select fire fox in adept installer	03:18
Nooreazy	:'(	03:18
GreyBear	I installed mine from the Adept Package manager	03:18
Nooreazy	lol i cant even select mine	03:18
Hobbsee	Nooreazy: why cant you select it?	03:19
GreyBear	can you select anything else there?	03:19
Nooreazy	dunno	03:19
Nooreazy	yea	03:19
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slow-motion	hallo	03:19
lubcho	saluit	03:19
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GreyBear	don't know	03:20
Nooreazy	when is search fire fox it comes up but its just gray and i cant select it	03:20
Nooreazy	<GreyBear> don't know THX any way	03:20
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Nooreazy	so is there a manual way i can install it?	03:22
Nooreazy	i downloaded the firefox pacage but i dont know witch file is the installer	03:23
Nooreazy	package*	03:23
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Hobbsee	!firefox1.5	03:24
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	03:24
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Nooreazy	thx i'm checking it out	03:27
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Tommy2k4	erm	03:28
Tommy2k4	ew kde crashed	03:29
Tommy2k4	well, kicker did	03:29
Jack1	h3sp4wn hi ; i get w:couldtnt stat source package list cdrom//ubuntu 5.10 dapper Badger; some index files failed to download, they have been replaced or old ones used instead	03:29
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spike	hi there	03:29
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spike	can anybody help me with kmail and imap? I cant find out how to write filters for it	03:29
spike	no probs with pop, but cant work out imap	03:29
Jack1	h3sp4wn it says failed to fetch cdrom..	03:30
h3sp4wn	Jack1: That shouldn't make any difference (you don't need the cdrom)	03:30
raul	can anybody help im havin problem with amarok it doesnt play. It just builds up the playlist everytime i play	03:30
deuce868	spike, check out imapfilter . Great little package to do that stuff with regardless of mail client	03:30
Hobbsee	raul: got libxine-extracodecs installed?	03:30
h3sp4wn	Jack1: You can remove the line from /etc/apt/sources.list if you like (just put a # infront of it)	03:30
Jack1	h3sp4wn but it doesnt seem to download...	03:31
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Is the internet connection working ?	03:31
spike	deuce868: well, I spose I can do that with procmail then, point was doing it with kmail. dont get why it doesnt give access to imap folders from the filter screen	03:31
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Jack1	h3sp4wn it said it would be online right away so i didnt reboot, maybe i should have right?	03:32
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Try ping 194.112.32.1 (see if you get a reply)	03:32
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: If it is not working now I don't think a reboot would fix it	03:33
raul	thanx Hobbsee i didnt have libxine.. installed	03:34
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Vexmaster	hello again	03:35
Hobbsee	raul: :)	03:35
Vexmaster	has anyone had trouble getting firefox on the main menu?	03:35
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MilhousePunkRock	Hi everyone!	03:36
Vexmaster	hi milhouse!	03:36
MehAdult	Morning guys	03:37
MilhousePunkRock	How can I add a menu to the taskbar?	03:37
MilhousePunkRock	Like the system menu that is already there by default...	03:37
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MehAdult	MilhousePunkRock: wish i knew	03:41
Hobbsee	MilhousePunkRock: right click on kicker, add applet to panel, pick applet	03:41
Hobbsee	or app, if you prefer	03:41
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MilhousePunkRock	But I don't want an applet or application, I want a menu, just like the system menu	03:42
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LiquidNerd_work	edgy pooped my kdm :(	03:44
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gupta	Anybody knnows which is the spooler directory? Like in windows it is windows/system32/spool or something	03:47
GreyBear	bk	03:47
gupta	Basically I want to cancel the print jobs and canceling from kcontrol isn't working	03:48
LiquidNerd_work	gupta: I believe it's set in the cupsys config.. I think mine is normally in /tmp	03:48
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apokryphos	!ops	03:49
ubotu	Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek	03:49
apokryphos	ta-da	03:49
gupta	LiquidNerd_work: K, I'll look around thanks	03:49
Hobbsee	apokryphos: nice.	03:49
Riddell	apokryphos: cool	03:50
Nooreazy	danm it!	03:50
Nooreazy	theres 2 adept manegers	03:50
Nooreazy	Firefox is hard to install	03:50
Nooreazy	!!!	03:50
ubotu	I know nothing about !!	03:50
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MehAdult	lol	03:50
imbrandon	apokryphos, im missing ;)	03:50
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MehAdult	Nooreazy: It's simple, just sudo apt-get install firefox	03:50
MilhousePunkRock	nooreazy Why? Even I managed that on my first day with Linux...	03:50
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apokryphos	imbrandon: add yourself 8)	03:50
MehAdult	Make sure your repos are set up :)	03:50
gnomefreak	lol	03:50
imbrandon	hehe	03:50
Nooreazy	yea but the sudo command when i do it nothing comes up	03:51
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MilhousePunkRock	With more noobish questions, of course...	03:51
LiquidNerd_work	Nooreazy: probably because you don't have the right repository setup.. whcih version are you running of Ubuntu?	03:52
Nooreazy	brb i need some music "pandora.com"	03:52
Nooreazy	6.06LTS	03:52
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visik7	how can I get zeroconf properly installed/configured ?	03:53
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cox377	has anyone here managed to get hotmail working with the likes of thunderbird?	03:54
cox377	!hotmail	03:54
ubotu	If you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn	03:54
imbrandon	!ops	03:55
ubotu	Riddell, haggai, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee	03:55
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visik7	Failed to publish this new service to the network (ZeroConf). The server will work fine without this, however. <- how can I fix it ?	03:59
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Tommy2k4	i need a wma > mp3 converter	04:06
Jack1	hi	04:06
Tommy2k4	(dont bother suggesting ogg)	04:06
jpatrick	lame	04:07
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Jack1	h3sp4wn sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is this definitely right? CAUSE IT seems not to replace the sources list, saying reading package list..done, building dependency tree..done, calculating upgrade..done...then: 0 upgraded, 0 removed, 0 newly installed..btw internet works now..	04:08
gioacchino	cioa	04:08
gioacchino	ciao	04:09
gioacchino	hello	04:09
Jack1	h3sp4wn i did that as root via sudo -s cause it reported a lock somewhere before in case thats important	04:09
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Can you use vim ?	04:09
gioacchino	hoe to make install floppy of kubuntu _	04:09
h3sp4wn	Jack1: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list	04:09
gioacchino	how to make install floppy of kubuntu _	04:10
Jack1	h3sp4wn shall i turn off the root and use sudo?	04:10
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: go back as root but use sudo -i (not sudo -s)	04:10
h3sp4wn	Jack1: then vim /etc/apt/sources.list	04:11
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cox377	i've juust installed hotway and restarted KDE now i cant find it, u guys got any ideas?	04:12
hanspeter	hi there! is there a known fix for the libc6 bug in edgy??	04:12
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Scroll with the arrows to the line with the cdrom in it and press dd (d twice) - to remove that line	04:12
gioacchino	how to make install floppy of kubuntu?	04:12
hanspeter	or a tip to whoch version i should downgrade?	04:13
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Then move to the all the lines with # infront of them and delete them just by pressing x	04:13
Jack1	h3sp4wn it says in the beginning: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _dapper BAdger ...main restricted..thats it right?	04:13
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Are you in vim ?	04:13
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: press dd on that line and it will delete it	04:14
Jack1	i entered your command h3sp4wn so i guess i am i see the sources.list right now	04:14
Jack1	h3sp4wn worked now deleting the hash marked lines	04:14
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Just by using x ?	04:15
h3sp4wn	Jack1: You only want to remove the # not the full line	04:15
Jack1	h3sp4wn yes	04:16
h3sp4wn	Jack1: once you have finished doing that type	04:16
Jack1	h3sp4wn fuck i stayed too long and now its half removed	04:16
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: press u until it comes back	04:16
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Jack1	h3sp4wn is the space between beginning of line and deb httpp important? shall i remove the space too?	04:18
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gioacchino	how to make install floppy of kubuntu?	04:18
gioacchino	how to make install floppy of kubuntu?	04:18
h3sp4wn	Jack1: I would remove the space but I don't know whether it makes a difference	04:18
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: There is a post on the forums about how someone did it for breezy	04:18
Tommy2k4	how do i install realplayer? it says i need xlibs but xlibs wont install	04:19
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Jack1	h3sp4wn i leave the ## where it specifies the comments as they are , am finished now	04:19
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> url please	04:19
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: I don't have it look yourself	04:19
gioacchino	url of forum no of post	04:19
Nooreazy	back i just found out that i dont even have firefox in my kubuntu	04:20
h3sp4wn	www.ubuntuforums.org	04:20
Jack1	h3sp4wn i should the two lines space in the beginning too right?	04:20
Nooreazy	but i still have the cd and i went to Programs>firefox>firefox.exe what should i open it with?	04:20
Nooreazy	the exe file?	04:20
h3sp4wn	Jack1: just do :wq	04:20
h3sp4wn	Jack1: and it should quit and be saved the file	04:21
h3sp4wn	Jack1: You need to type the colon	04:21
gioacchino	Nooreazy: use sudo apt-get upgrade and sudo apt update	04:21
Jack1	h3sp4wn	04:21
Jack1	ok	04:21
gioacchino	the firefox in cd id fo windows no for linux	04:21
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Nooreazy	oh ok	04:22
robotgeek	gioacchino: sudo apt-get install firefox	04:22
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Nooreazy	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	04:22
h3sp4wn	Jack1: then try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade	04:22
Tommy2k4	is realplayer for linux any good	04:23
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Tommy2k4	the one for windows is bloated crap	04:23
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Jack1	ok thank you h3sp4wn are u later here? i need to go out off the irc for that	04:23
Nooreazy	"E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the list directory"	04:24
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Does the file only mention dapper now ?	04:24
Nooreazy	happens for both of them :'(	04:24
slow-motion	bbl monitor test	04:24
h3sp4wn	Jack1: The only important line in the whole file is deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted multiverse universe (or similar according to county	04:25
Jack1	h3sp4wn it says that in the repository address eg dapper universe	04:25
h3sp4wn	Jack1: dapper main (is the most important one)	04:25
Jack1	h3sp4wn i got main restricted	04:26
h3sp4wn	Jack1: That will be fine	04:26
sbriscoe	Is there a way to get the Wireless Assistant to support WPA-SPK?	04:26
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robotgeek	sbriscoe: maybe try knetworkmanager	04:27
gioacchino	Download these floppy images from [WWW] http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/pre-rc2/floppy/ ( [WWW] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ ):	04:27
gioacchino	the link on the site	04:27
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gioacchino	are broken..	04:27
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Jack1	h3sp4wn and universe thensecurity and updates and backports but when i get x i can easily edit that	04:28
Jack1	h3sp4wn thank u and goodbye	04:28
h3sp4wn	Jack1: That should be ok if the dist-upgrade doesn't start this time come back and I will try a different way	04:28
Jack1	oki h3sp4wn bybye	04:29
Tommy2k4	can i play a file using xine straight from console?	04:30
gioacchino	Download these floppy images from [WWW] http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/pre-rc2/floppy/ ( [WWW] http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ ):	04:30
gioacchino	the link on the site	04:30
gioacchino	are broken..	04:30
h3sp4wn	Tommy2k4: Video or audio ?	04:31
Tommy2k4	audio	04:31
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h3sp4wn	Tommy2k4: aaxine maybe	04:31
gioacchino	what`s the right link ?	04:31
Tommy2k4	command not found	04:31
moparisthebest	hey Tommy2k4 :)	04:31
Tommy2k4	eww	04:31
h3sp4wn	Tommy2k4: I think it might be part of xine-ui	04:32
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Tommy2k4	xine-ui command not found	04:32
moparisthebest	when I try to run adept it says apt-get or aptitude are already running and it cant start up	04:32
moparisthebest	but they arent running	04:32
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moparisthebest	any ideas?	04:32
sbriscoe_	check your processes, and kill it if it's running	04:33
Tommy2k4	moparisthebest linux newb plz	04:33
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Lynoure	That questions comes up a lot. Is there some FAQ for this channel?	04:34
Hobbsee	Lynoure: yeah, it was in teh topic...	04:34
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Lynoure	Oh, blind me :)	04:35
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Hobbsee	grr.	04:35
adem	hallo zusammen	04:36
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> I don`t found the istall fromfloppy on the forum please help me	04:36
adem	ich bin neuling in Kubuntu und habe auch vorher nie Linux benutzt	04:36
Lynoure	Hobbsee: the FAQ leads to something that looks more like a general introduction to ubuntu rather than commonly asked questions here	04:36
oem_	can someone tell me where i can find windows codecs for ubuntu6.06	04:36
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: I don't know how to do it off the top of my head	04:37
adem	ich habe einige Probleme	04:37
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jpatrick	!de	04:37
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	04:37
adem	mit WLAN 128 bit Verschlsslung, das funktioniert nicht	04:37
silfer	can someone tell me where i can find windows codecs for ubuntu6.06	04:37
Hobbsee	!codecs	04:37
ubotu	For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:37
adem	ok	04:37
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Kr4t05	I'm trying to mount a secondary ext3 partition, what options should I designate?	04:37
silfer	thnx	04:37
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gioacchino	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies	04:38
Lynoure	Hobbsee: Do you kow if ubutu content are somewhere on the web?	04:38
gioacchino	the link of img floppy are broke	04:38
Lynoure	Hobbsee: s/kow/know	04:38
Hobbsee	Lynoure: um, what in particular?	04:38
gioacchino	you know the corect link ?	04:38
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Lynoure	Hobbsee: All. They'd make a pretty good FAQ	04:38
Hobbsee	Lynoure: what, wiki.ubuntu.com? it's already there, just most people dont look. and its' badly organised.	04:39
Kr4t05	!tell me about ext3	04:39
robotgeek	help.ubuntu.com has all you will probably need	04:39
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: That page seems very old sarge is released now	04:39
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robotgeek	Lynoure: its even in your help menu :)	04:40
Lynoure	Hobbsee: The bot has answer to very many questions, but reading them in FAQ form would be handier. Or do you mean it just looks things up from wiki?	04:40
Tommy2k4	moparisthebest, u have msn?	04:40
Hobbsee	Lynoure: the bot has a list of all the stuff it knows, Seveas knows the link.	04:40
h3sp4wn	Is there a version of the wiki in text format ?	04:40
Lynoure	robotgeek: hmm? what is? My ex-bf complained I don't come with a help menu =)	04:40
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robotgeek	Lynoure: the FAQ you asked for	04:41
Hobbsee	Lynoure: the common questions link seems pretty relevant. people just dont read it though	04:41
moparisthebest	yes Tommy2k4 but im never on it :P	04:41
Tommy2k4	newb	04:41
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min	I have a question	04:42
Tommy2k4	what ircs do you go to these days	04:42
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> wat`s is the new pages ?	04:42
moparisthebest	i searched on the wiki and common questions but i cant find anything on my problems or on how to kill processes	04:42
Tommy2k4	sudo killall adept	04:42
moparisthebest	this one, #kaitnieks, and #sythe Tommy2k4	04:42
Tommy2k4	what server #kaitnieks?	04:42
Lynoure	robotgeek: but what help menu? (I'm on debian at the moment, console, no help menus)	04:42
robotgeek	moparisthebest: killall programname	04:42
moparisthebest	irc.codestream.org Tommy2k4	04:42
min	yea	04:42
min	Im on two monitors	04:42
robotgeek	Lynoure: oh, K-Menu -> Help has the desktop guide	04:43
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moparisthebest	it says no process killed	04:43
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> how to found the new pages ?	04:43
Tommy2k4	try apt-get	04:43
moparisthebest	any way i can see the processes running?	04:43
Kr4t05	moparisthebest: Try passing "top" in the command line.	04:43
robotgeek	moparisthebest: what are you trying to kill	04:43
Tommy2k4	moparisthebest, ctrl + escape	04:43
moparisthebest	somthing to let adept run	04:43
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Lynoure	robotgeek: but that probably does not answer the common questions on this channel, like the daily "why won't my apt or adept run?". But I could be wrong and then I'd have to be impressed.	04:44
John-Z	hrmm.	04:44
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robotgeek	moparisthebest: sudo killall apt-get , sudo killall dpkg	04:44
ne78	Is keytouch packaged in kubuntu ?	04:44
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> how to found the new pages ?	04:44
gioacchino	<h3sp4wn> how to found the new pages ?	04:44
robotgeek	Lynoure: actually, not directly. but the information is actually present in the adept chapter of the guide	04:44
John-Z	Has anyone had a problem where if they setup dual screens and have a high resolution on each, that NONE of their terminal programs (xterm, konsole, yakuake) will not load.. they begin to open the crash immediately?	04:44
min	and one of them is broken and the other one's working fine but the screen resolution is way too small. I need to make the reso 1280x1024?	04:44
min	yea thats me	04:45
gioacchino	please help me	04:45
min	but I have a low reso on each	04:45
John-Z	weird.	04:45
John-Z	Just started happening today.	04:45
min	one of my monitor is broken	04:45
min	and the other one	04:45
Lynoure	robotgeek: cool	04:45
min	I need to make it 1280x1024	04:45
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robotgeek	min, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	04:45
Kr4t05	John-Z, haven't had this problem, and I run TwinView with a total res of 2560x1024	04:45
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min	I tried that	04:45
moparisthebest	niether of those processes are rrrrrrrrrrrrrunning	04:45
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min	it only registers one monitor into xorg.conf	04:46
Kr4t05	Atleast, I think.	04:46
moparisthebest	damn, and now some keys are sticking like that :(	04:46
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gatekeeper	min kate comes with a terminal, what happens if you use that?	04:46
John-Z	it crashes.	04:46
min	robotgeek: it only registers one monitor into xorg.conf. Im on a laptop. The laptop monitor is busted so Im using an external monitor but the screen reso is incredibly small	04:46
John-Z	every terminal, same problem here.	04:46
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robotgeek	min: hmm, sorry but i'm extremely weak with stuff like this	04:47
min	robotgeek: I dont know what to change in the xorg.conf file	04:47
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: Remove the end part and browse for it	04:47
min	robotgeek: Maybe u can help me?	04:47
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robotgeek	min: maybe look at help.ubuntu.com/community	04:47
min	is that the forums?	04:48
min	noone answers	04:48
[BU] Brizz	how come one of my repositories always takes a million years to respond or never responds at all?	04:48
robotgeek	min: no, try looking for guides on the wiki	04:48
min	thw wiki only has guides for ubuntu Im on kubuntu. MAybe cna you change the ubuntu commands into kubuntu commands?	04:49
min	%can	04:49
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robotgeek	min: yes, the basic commands should be same. i also heard about some module in System Settings	04:49
[BU] Brizz	most of the ubuntu stuff works in kubuntu too	04:49
min	o	04:49
min	because I tried it	04:49
gatekeeper	min: I frequently use the ubuntu guides, kubuntu is ubuntu with a KDE front end	04:50
robotgeek	K-Menu -> System Settings or so	04:50
min	and some of the commands didnt work	04:50
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11	04:50
min	ok	04:50
min	wait	04:50
v3ctor	the underlying stuff comes from the same repos	04:50
v3ctor	difference is kde/gnome	04:50
min	I tried this but it doesnt work	04:50
min	sudo ddcprobe \| grep monitorrange	04:50
[BU] Brizz	maybe those aren't installed	04:50
min	I see	04:51
min	ty	04:51
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: You need to be careful or you will end up just installing debian sarge	04:51
[BU] Brizz	sometimes if a command doesn't work you should try sudo apt-get install on it	04:51
min	sudo apt-get install 855resolution	04:51
min	this doesnt work	04:51
min	couldnt find pacage 855resolution	04:51
robotgeek	min: hold up	04:52
min	k	04:52
[BU] Brizz	sudo apt-get install ddcprobe	04:52
min	ty	04:52
[BU] Brizz	actually	04:52
[BU] Brizz	xresprobe	04:52
min	couldnt find package dccprobe	04:52
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robotgeek	min: ddcprobe	04:52
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: how to burn the im file on floppy ?	04:52
robotgeek	min: also try, sudo apt-get install xresprobe	04:52
gatekeeper	min: what happens if you launch kate (text editor)	04:53
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/path/tofloppy/floppy.img	04:53
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11	04:53
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min	I alredy have the latest version of xrespobe and yes kate loads fine except I dont have permission to edit the xorg.conf file. dccprobe shows me a bunch of numbers but at the end it says	04:54
min	mode: 1280x1024x16m	04:54
min	edid:	04:54
min	edidfail	04:54
min	it says edidfail	04:54
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Tommy2k4	brazillian national anthem sux plz	04:55
robotgeek	!tell Tommy2k4 about coc	04:55
Tommy2k4	sowwy :(	04:55
min	!coc	04:56
ubotu	The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/	04:56
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gatekeeper	min: kate comes with a terminal that is why I suggested using it, to edit xorg.conf file select Run Command... -> kdesu kate xorg.conf use kate or whatever text editor you want	04:57
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min	yea I know but I dont know what to put into the xorg.conf file	04:58
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moparisthebest	has anyoneeeeeeeeeeeee ever had that problem <	04:59
LiquidNerd_work_	min: do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	04:59
gioacchino	I restart the pc and reinstall kubuntu!!!	04:59
moparisthebest	randomly my keys repeat each other	04:59
gioacchino	thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!	04:59
min	I did that	04:59
LiquidNerd_work_	and?	04:59
min	in only configures one of my monitors to xorg.conf	04:59
min	but Ill try it anyways	04:59
LiquidNerd_work_	moparisthebest: probably bad keyboard	04:59
LiquidNerd_work_	is it a laptop?	04:59
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LiquidNerd_work_	min: are you ding dual monitors?	04:59
min	yea	05:00
LiquidNerd_work_	ahh	05:00
min	on on a laptop	05:00
min	and the one attatched to laptop is busted	05:00
LiquidNerd_work_	I had that setup once too	05:00
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min	so Im using external but then the reso is too small	05:00
min	*external monitor	05:00
cox377	Hi all, right i've just logged into Root and realised tha all ports are open there, how do i go about opening ports under a normal account?	05:00
Tommy2k4	ghana are gonna get owned so badly off brazil :(	05:00
LiquidNerd_work_	min: so the display is showing on the external monitor, but the resolution is too high?	05:01
min	no	05:01
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min	the resolution is too low its 640x280 I need to make it 1280x1024	05:01
LiquidNerd_work_	ahh	05:01
LiquidNerd_work_	okay	05:01
min	so cna u help me?	05:02
LiquidNerd_work_	so you see the Section "Screen" part that's relating to your external monitor in xorg.conf?	05:02
v3ctor	when i plug a monitor into my laptop, it always uses the res of my laptop screen	05:02
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min	acutally	05:03
min	theres only one monitor in xorg.conf and I think it might be the one thats attached ot the laptop	05:03
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min	and I get the error message when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	05:04
min	xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration	05:04
min	file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060627110118	05:04
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moparisthebest	LiquidNerd_work_: its not a bad keyboard because it worked last night (6 houuuuuuuuuuuurs ago)	05:04
Tommy2k4	hahahaha rofl 1-0 to brazil]	05:04
Tommy2k4	<5mins	05:05
moparisthebest	and the keys repeat the same number of times everytime :S	05:05
min	anyone?	05:05
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gioacchino	the	05:09
gioacchino	idstallation as failed...	05:10
gioacchino	it tell me	05:10
gioacchino	remove support and pres enter to reboot	05:10
min	I get this error message when I try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.	05:10
min	xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration	05:10
min	file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060627111006	05:10
Tommy2k4	thats not an error	05:11
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Tommy2k4	what were you expecting when you tried to reconfigure xorg.conf?	05:11
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min	wait is that suppsoed to come up?	05:11
Tommy2k4	yes	05:11
min	o	05:11
min	so it did work?	05:11
Tommy2k4	its just telling you that its gonna overwrite your current one, and save your current one to that backup with todays date on	05:12
min	k ty	05:12
Tommy2k4	that doesnt necessarily mean it worked though	05:13
Tommy2k4	after that you should see a setup screen?	05:13
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min	nope	05:15
min	editing the xorg.conf did nothing	05:15
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min	It only added on of my monitors	05:15
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min	can someone help?	05:16
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min	wait tommy	05:18
min	after that the setup screen doesnt come up	05:18
min	it stops at the warning message	05:18
Tommy2k4	hm	05:18
Tommy2k4	im sure mine showed lots of setup screens	05:19
min	so whats the problem?	05:19
min	after the overwrite thing it stops	05:19
min	and when I did it before that error thing never came up	05:20
min	and in my xorg.conf file only my broken monitor is added not my external one	05:21
min	cna u tell me what to put in there for the external one?	05:21
min	http://pastebin.com/732656	05:22
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LiquidNerd_work_	min: when you do lspci do you have 2 video adapters or 1?	05:25
om_	i've been a kubuntu user for a week now and i must say that i am in love with it! i shouldn't have waited this long to try it...	05:25
sbriscoe	Same here	05:25
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Tommy2k4	my kubuntu stopped crashing since i changed my screen to 16bit / 1024x768	05:26
om_	except for the occasional X crash caused by amarok =)	05:26
Tommy2k4	which is good in a way but it makes my eyes bleed :(	05:26
min	wait	05:26
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sbriscoe	my resolution is at 1600x1200	05:26
min	Im not that crazy about kubuntu right now	05:27
LiquidNerd_work_	min: when you do lspci do you have 2 video adapters or 1?	05:27
sbriscoe	linux is only as good as it's user	05:27
min	wait	05:27
min	i dont know	05:27
min	cna I paste it on the pastebin?	05:27
LiquidNerd_work_	sure	05:27
min	k wait	05:27
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om_	anybody else has this weird amarok bug where at the bottom left it has some trimmed HTML code? it's really weird.. i just ignore it	05:28
LiquidNerd_work_	om_: apt-get dist-upgrade?	05:29
min	LiquidNerd_work_: why is pastebin laggin so much	05:29
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LiquidNerd_work_	min: not sure.. not my page	05:29
om_	LiquidNerd_work_: i tried.. i upgraded from 1.3.9 to version 1.4.1beta... still same	05:30
LiquidNerd_work_	interesting	05:30
LiquidNerd_work_	what does it look like?	05:30
om_	and now something else.. the four small destop boxes on the taskbars all became empty.. they stopped showing me the little application things.. yeah.. kubuntu is weird sometimes	05:31
om_	let me take a screen shot i guess.. 1sec	05:31
min	LiquidNerd_work_: Pastebinm is down so I pasted on to here http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=116354#116354	05:31
LiquidNerd_work_	om_: right click on the pager, select pager options, make sure Window Thumbnails and Window Icons are checked	05:32
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min	LiquidNerd_work_: Pastebinm is down so I pasted on to here http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=116354#116354	05:32
LiquidNerd_work_	min: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]	05:32
LiquidNerd_work_	looks like you only have 1 video card	05:33
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min	o	05:33
moparisthebest	is there anywaaaaaaaaaaay to get a clean rebootttttttttttttt sinceeeeeeeeeeeeeee i have obviously messed somthing up?????????????	05:33
min	I think my monitors are attatched to one video card	05:33
min	LiquidNerd_work_: and if it isnt, how would I add the other one?	05:33
LiquidNerd_work_	well it is showing up	05:34
LiquidNerd_work_	otherwise you wouldn't be looking at anything	05:34
moparisthebest	I dont know wwwwwwwwwwwwwwhy my keys are repeating llike thisssssssssssss, I dont mean too :(	05:34
min	yea its showing	05:34
min	but I cant change the reso lution thats my problem	05:34
LiquidNerd_work_	moparisthebest: are you holding the keys too long?	05:34
min	it looks really ugly :)	05:34
moparisthebest	nope	05:34
LiquidNerd_work_	min: yeah.. hmmm	05:34
moparisthebest	its the same number of repetitions everytime	05:35
LiquidNerd_work_	moparisthebest: is your computer slow?	05:35
min	o ye ahere sthe pastebin btw	05:35
om_	what's the command to show my current IP address?	05:35
moparisthebest	it has worked fine the last few days	05:35
min	http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/733229	05:35
min	ifconfig	05:35
min	sudo ifconfig	05:35
moparisthebest	but now alot ooooooooooooof things arent working :P	05:35
om_	thanks!	05:35
min	np	05:35
Lynoure	min: in kubuntu there is a bug that causes problems if you try to use the System Settings for changing resolution.	05:35
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min	crap	05:35
moparisthebest	is there any way to get aaaaaaaaaaaaa clean reboot?	05:35
moparisthebest	like where it doesnt save your session?	05:36
moparisthebest	and just loads everything freshly?	05:36
LiquidNerd_work_	moparisthebest: rm -rf ~/.kde	05:36
Lynoure	The configuration file edited way too meavily, making return to the old resolution impossible by using the same GUI	05:36
Lynoure	(but yes, I have files a but on this already)	05:36
min	Lynoureso how owuld I fix this bug? I tried to chaneg using system settings	05:36
Lynoure	min: did your original configuration have the right resolution	05:37
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Lynoure	?	05:37
LiquidNerd_work_	min: try "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall	05:37
min	no it didnt. It never had right reso	05:37
cox377	does anyone here use guarddog or some other firewall?	05:37
LiquidNerd_work_	or move the xorg.conf to a temp place and rune "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"	05:38
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min	k	05:38
min	wait	05:38
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min	its installing or something	05:38
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min	ok it said setting up xserver-org and it finished	05:39
LiquidNerd_work_	out of curiosity, after you make changes to xorg.conf, are you rebooting X?	05:39
min	yea	05:39
min	ctrl alt backspace?	05:39
LiquidNerd_work_	yeah	05:39
LiquidNerd_work_	k	05:39
min	k	05:39
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min	ok what do I do now?	05:40
min	the sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall thing finished	05:40
Ertain	I'm having troubles with my Wacom tablet not working properly. It draws even when the stylus is a centimeter above the drawing area. Does anyone know of a Wacom chat room? I tried #wacom but that didn't work.	05:40
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LiquidNerd_work	min: hmmm... paste your xorg.conf file in it's entirety	05:40
min	k	05:41
LiquidNerd_work	(in a pastebin)	05:41
min	k its going	05:42
LiquidNerd_work	going where?	05:42
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om_	LiquidNerd_work: http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg	05:43
om_	LiquidNerd_work: that's the screen shot of the amarok bug	05:43
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om_	look at the bottom left....	05:43
min	the pastebin is going	05:43
reSpawn	hi	05:43
LiquidNerd_work	it's not connecting	05:43
reSpawn	I got 3 eths, and I use PPPOE on one of it.	05:44
min	ok pastebin is not connecting	05:44
min	http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=332934#p332934	05:44
reSpawn	PPPOE created 3 ppoe's so I got 3 ips now, lol	05:44
reSpawn	I have ppp0,ppp1,ppp2	05:44
reSpawn	any ideea how can I add some more :P ?	05:44
om_	LiquidNerd_work: really? damn apache.. im not sure how to fix this... it works for me when i type http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg	05:44
min	LiquidNerd_work: pastebin http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=332934#p332934	05:44
jpatrick	http://bash.org/?660109	05:45
LiquidNerd_work	om_: are you behind a router?	05:45
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om_	LiquidNerd_work: not that i am aware of... not external anyhow and i didnt install anything..	05:45
LiquidNerd_work	min: strange.. everything looks fine.. other than the refresh rates may not be correct.. hard to say really	05:45
LiquidNerd_work	om_: dcc it to me	05:46
om_	LiquidNerd_work: i get something about not being registered.. i have to register i guess	05:46
min	but only one monitor is stated on the xor.conf isnt it?	05:46
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LiquidNerd_work	yeah	05:46
LiquidNerd_work	om_: odd	05:46
min	*xorg.conf	05:47
LiquidNerd_work	om_: I can't connect to port 80	05:47
LiquidNerd_work	but I can ping you	05:47
Szczepan	My mobile phone number is +48 692 513 441 !!!!!! please call for me!!! (it's polish number) ;)	05:47
om_	LiquidNerd_work: anything i can do to check where the problem is?	05:48
om_	i have to change my nick =( it's already registered	05:48
LiquidNerd_work	well you can connect to it, and you have apache installed.. if you do ifconfig, what ip do you have?	05:48
reSpawn	!help	05:48
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage	05:48
sbriscoe	I have a strange monitor issue too. I have kubuntu on my laptop, with a second monitor attached. When I setup each monitor individually, everything is fine. But when I configure for dual screens, one monitor will be fine while the other will have that scrolling display (where you move the mouse to the left corner and it scrolls to the left, visa versa)	05:49
min	LiquidNerd_work: Only one monitor is in the xorg.conf file. How would I add the other one so I cna dual them?	05:49
mr-roadster	how can i make an bootdisk for m ubuntu?	05:49
reSpawn	!kde	05:49
min	yea	05:49
ubotu	KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE	05:49
min	exactly	05:49
reSpawn	!search kde	05:49
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mr-roadster	!bootdisk	05:49
ubotu	I know nothing about bootdisk	05:49
min	except my screen reso is incredibly small	05:49
cox377	anyone here use guarddog?	05:49
reSpawn	how can I update my kde to kde 3.5.3 ?	05:49
om_	LiquidNerd_work: the ip i gave you.. 87.69.69.13	05:49
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reSpawn	!find kde upgrade	05:50
ubotu	Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-i18n-af, kde-i18n-ar (and 380 others)	05:50
LiquidNerd_work	min: can yoru laptop even do dual screens?	05:50
reSpawn	!find kde 3.5.3	05:50
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ubotu	Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-i18n-af, kde-i18n-ar (and 380 others)	05:50
LiquidNerd_work	I've seen many that can't	05:50
reSpawn	:(	05:50
reSpawn	!find 3.5.3	05:50
ubotu	No packages matching '3.5.3' could be found	05:50
mr-roadster	!dualhead	05:50
ubotu	I know nothing about dualhead	05:50
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LiquidNerd_work	om_: has anybody else been able to connect to you or am I your first try?	05:50
sbriscoe	mine can do dual, and dual works on kubuntu...just that one monitor does the scrolling thing	05:50
mr-roadster	!dualscreen	05:50
ubotu	I know nothing about dualscreen	05:50
min	yea Ive been doing fine with windows. I just click FN+F2 and one monitor turns off and my main monitor is on. I todl u the other one's broken remember?	05:51
om_	LiquidNerd_work: first one =)	05:51
om_	did anybody else try?	05:51
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LiquidNerd_work	I'm thinking your ISP is blocking	05:51
om_	well it worked when i had apache set up on windows and it was the same ISP	05:51
LiquidNerd_work	min: are you trying to do dual monitors? When you say broken, that means the LCD panel is no longer functional	05:52
om_	gotta register a new nick..	05:52
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LiquidNerd_work	sbriscoe: sounds like the CTRL ALT + thing	05:52
LiquidNerd_work	try that	05:52
LiquidNerd_work	the + is on the num pad	05:52
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sbriscoe	laptop doesnt have a numpad, only shift+=	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	interesting	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	I forgot about that	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	hmm	05:53
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: im trying to dcc	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	not sure how you'd do that then	05:53
sbriscoe	what would ctrl alt + normally do?	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	sbriscoe: on push the numlock and you should have a numpad on your keys	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	it changes screen resolutions	05:53
LiquidNerd_work	omv0: yeah and that's not going through either	05:54
LiquidNerd_work	do you have a firewall setup?	05:54
min	I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028	05:54
sbriscoe	the resolution is fine. if i set it at 1600x1200, it will go to 1600x1200, but it's like the screen is just too big for the monitor so it does the scrolling thing. kinda hard to explain i guess	05:54
min	LiquidNerd_work: I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028	05:54
reSpawn	!find flash	05:54
ubotu	Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)	05:54
reSpawn	!kde	05:54
ubotu	KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE	05:54
LiquidNerd_work	sbriscoe: I know what you mean	05:55
reSpawn	How can I upgrade my KDE ?	05:55
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: i never set one up.. so if it's not automatic then no.. i've sent files successfully with gaim though	05:55
LiquidNerd_work	can your screen/kard support that?	05:55
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LiquidNerd_work	strange why I can't connect to your apache then	05:55
omv0	or dcc...	05:55
omv0	can someone please tell me if this works for them? http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg	05:56
sbriscoe	dual screen works fine in windows	05:56
LiquidNerd_work	sbriscoe: at the same resolutions?	05:56
sbriscoe	yup	05:56
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LiquidNerd_work	and if you press the numlock on it doesn't turn half the keyboard into a numpad?	05:56
min	LiquidNerd_work: I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028	05:57
min	oops bad grammar ;]	05:57
LiquidNerd_work	min: has it ever worked at the size you want?	05:57
min	yea in windows	05:57
min	not in kubuntu though	05:57
LiquidNerd_work	hmm	05:58
min	can I just turn one off and make the external monitor primary and chnage the resolution?	05:58
Kr4t05	What would I chmod a directory to for regular user access?	05:58
DeadS0ul	777	05:59
Kr4t05	Thanks	05:59
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trappist	ack	05:59
trappist	777 is wrong 100% of the time	05:59
LiquidNerd_work	lol	05:59
LiquidNerd_work	0700	06:00
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: ok this is the best i could do, but it resized it so you have to zoom in: http://www.mypixshare.com/images/587/1422/00000001.jpg	06:00
Kr4t05	Er...	06:00
Kr4t05	ok	06:00
DeadS0ul	lol why	06:00
trappist	chown it to the user/group you want to have access, then 775 at the most	06:00
trappist	DeadS0ul: world read/write/execute opens a hole for some nasty attacks	06:00
DeadS0ul	really?	06:01
DeadS0ul	gimme an example	06:01
min	so cna u help me?	06:01
Kr4t05	I want read/write/delete access to it,	06:02
trappist	somebody gains control of your webserver, but can't do much with it, because its user only owns a few directories. you open a way for the attacker to start moving outside of www-data-owned files and directories, from which he can branch out and cause more problems	06:02
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: also notice the desktop boxes are all empty even though i have programs running in each	06:02
trappist	Kr4t05: yes but not for everybody in the world	06:02
Kr4t05	Ah, ok.	06:02
LiquidNerd_work	omv0: right click on the pager, select pager options, make sure Window Thumbnails and Window Icons are checked	06:02
Kr4t05	trappist, what group would the regular user be in?	06:03
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LiquidNerd_work	min: it's odd that it's not coming up with the right screen size	06:03
sbriscoe	holy hell, i just fixed it	06:03
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: oohh now it works =) but you still see the html code on the bottom left of amarok?	06:03
trappist	Kr4t05: if you just want your user to have access, sudo chown youruser /path/to/dir	06:03
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Kr4t05	ok	06:03
LiquidNerd_work	when you push the FN + F2 key you should have the ability to select 1 or both screens	06:04
VonGeist	anyone had any luck getting an Mx1000 mouse to work? I've tried a bunch of the tutorials on the internet bu hey just seem to stop my system from booting	06:04
LiquidNerd_work	sbriscoe: how'd you do it?	06:04
min	LiquidNerd_work: What do u do to switch the screens?	06:04
LiquidNerd_work	monitor	06:04
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min	its not working	06:04
min	I wanna do that too	06:04
min	when I do FN F2 it takes screenie instead	06:05
LiquidNerd_work	omv0: yeah that looks odd... how I'd fix it is to delete the amarok folder and start fresh	06:05
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Kr4t05	And, any application I authourize can access this dir, right?	06:05
sbriscoe	both monitors seperately configure to set a 60hz. when i enable dual screen my main monitor drops to 59hz, with the option of changing to 74. So i tried it at 74 and it's not doin the scrolling thing now. Sweeeeet	06:05
LiquidNerd_work	min that's really strange.. no error in the X.org logs?	06:05
min	Thats what I did in windows	06:05
omv0	LiquidNerd_work: i tried to use Adept to uninstall and reinstall.. didnt fix it	06:05
trappist	Kr4t05: any applications you run	06:05
min	eh?	06:05
Kr4t05	good,	06:05
min	LiquidNerd_work:How do i check the logs?	06:05
LiquidNerd_work	less /var/log/X.org.log	06:06
cox377	I have this problem, i'm trying to get ports open for my email, when i run nmap it only states 3 ports which are not the ones i've opened up in firestarter, however when i run the command for ports that are currently listening it shows the ports i wnat open, i've try without firewall, i've tried with firestarter and with guarddog and it always does the same. However.. if i log into root the ports are sitting there open! does anyone now how	06:06
LiquidNerd_work	or something like that	06:06
trappist	Kr4t05: that doesn't include applications you start via sudo, which then run as other users, such as apache	06:06
Kr4t05	ok	06:06
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Kr4t05	I don't run websever apps on my desktop anyway.	06:06
trappist	cox377: are you nmapping localhost?	06:06
min	LiquidNerd_work:	06:06
min	min@ubuntu:~$ sudo less /var/log/X.org.log	06:06
min	/var/log/X.org.log: No such file or directory	06:06
Kr4t05	I may install gnump3d on here for when I go on vacation, but that's it.	06:07
trappist	min: /var/log/Xorg.0.log	06:07
LiquidNerd_work	bah.. I gotta head out to lunch... sorry guys	06:07
LiquidNerd_work	less /var/log/Xorg.0.log	06:07
LiquidNerd_work	I'll be back in a hour or so	06:07
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min	trappist: Ok I did that	06:08
cox377	trappist: im nmapping my ip address of this machine, when i just ran it under root it doesnt show those ports to be open but know they are open because the mail client shows them as Green being open	06:08
min	trappist: It's giving me a bunch of stuff	06:08
trappist	cox377: "open" is a little ambiguous - is it listening only on localhost, or on external interfaces as well? by default, they only listen on localhost. do this: sudo netstat -ntalp \| grep :25	06:09
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Ertain	So no one knows about Wacom tablets? Figures. :-(	06:10
trappist	Ertain: I didn't hear your question, but I bet uncle google knows	06:10
cox377	trappist: just ran nmap under local host and it shows them to be open, but when using my computer ip address instead of localhost it shows them as closed	06:10
trappist	cox377: because your mail server is only listening on localhost, which is the default behavior	06:11
min	trappist: one of the error said	06:11
min	(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)	06:11
min	(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)	06:11
cox377	trappist: but when i go back to my mail client it doesnt show them as open	06:11
trappist	min: I don't even know what your problem is. but you're probably looking for errors, so look for lines that start with (EE)	06:11
min	I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028	06:12
cox377	trappist: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 21123/mozilla-thund	06:12
cox377	thats what i got from your command, what does that mena?	06:12
cox377	mean**	06:12
trappist	cox377: 127.0.0.1:25 means it's only listening on localhost. mine says 0.0.0.0:25	06:12
cox377	trappist:means i have to open it to the actual IP address?	06:13
min	one of the monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there/turned off. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows. Right now the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028	06:13
trappist	cox377: you have to make it listen on the external ip address.	06:13
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cox377	trappist: sorry if this sounds dumb but what would that IP address me?	06:13
cox377	be*	06:13
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Ertain	I can't find an IRC channel for Wacom tablets. And Google doesn't seem to be helping.	06:14
trappist	cox377: ifconfig \| grep 'inet addr' \| cut -d: -f2 \| awk '{print $1}' \| grep -v ^127	06:14
min	trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16634	06:15
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Jack1	hi h3sp4wn	06:16
trappist	Ertain: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Fdev%2Fwacom	06:16
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Did it work?	06:16
Jack1	h3sp4wn it worked fine	06:16
trappist	err min: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Fdev%2Fwacom	06:16
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gatekeeper	min: have a look at this: http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf	06:17
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Is everything working ?	06:17
cox377	trappist: so i'm just adding the local IP address i'm assuming you mean	06:17
Jack1	but i used kde, and it routinely installs gnome; and i configured a lot progs like gtkpod from source...	06:17
Jack1	h3sp4wn best way to do install kubuntu-desktop and then transfer home directory?	06:18
min	ye aIm looking at it	06:18
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trappist	cox377: I'm making some assumptions about your setup, but probably, yes	06:18
min	*yea Im looking at it	06:18
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Yes but the stuff from source you will have to do the stuff from source again (or find the package which may have been added since)	06:19
min	trappist: So I should change my xorg.conf into that?	06:19
Jack1	h3sp4wn or better transfer an image from the old lappie and mount that with live cd?	06:19
Hawkwind	Hey there trappist	06:19
min	lol hey hawkwind	06:19
trappist	min: into what? I don't even know what you're asking about	06:19
trappist	heya Hawkwind	06:19
Hawkwind	Hey there min	06:19
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Why the live cd ? I don't think is much need	06:19
Hawkwind	trappist: I did it! I finally made the jump to Kubuntu as my main OS :)	06:19
Jack1	ok	06:19
trappist	Hawkwind: ossum :)	06:20
min	remember u sent me http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf. Should I copy that?	06:20
Jack1	kernel image 2.4.27-2-686 is this right for me? centrino dual core	06:20
Hawkwind	trappist: I'm really enjoying it. It's like a big breath of fresh air	06:20
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Jack1	h3sp4wn kernel image 2.4.27-2-686 is this right for me? centrino dual core	06:20
trappist	min: no I didn't	06:20
h3sp4wn	Jack1: No	06:21
min	o gatekeeper did	06:21
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om_	LiquidNerd_work: can you plase try http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg again? i messed around with settings, maybe i fixed it	06:21
Jack1	h3sp4wn linux image 686?	06:21
min	gatekeeper: remember u sent me http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf. Should I copy that?	06:21
h3sp4wn	Jack1: That should be ok	06:21
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torstefan	heh.. I feel a tad stupid to ask this. But how do I get the taskbar back? I removed it..	06:22
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trappist	torstefan: alt-f2 and run 'kicker'	06:22
Jack1	ok then i install that..thx h3sp4wn..cu in a while	06:22
torstefan	right...	06:23
gatekeeper	min: have you got a manual for Radeon graphics card, judging by the error messages above the vsync and hsync might not be right, just grasping at straws here :-)	06:23
Jack1	h3sp4wn but it says there :This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available	06:23
Jack1	for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.	06:23
thompa	i need to disable touchpad	06:23
Jack1	u despite sure that its right? h3sp4wn	06:23
min	gatekeeper: No I dont have the manual for anything. What should I do? Copy that xorg.conf file?	06:23
h3sp4wn	Jack1: Core duo is basically a PIII	06:23
gatekeeper	min:no just look at it for guidance	06:23
min	gatekeeper: Oh its very similiar to mine	06:24
Jack1	ok thx h3sp4wn bybye	06:24
torstefan	trappist: What does it do?	06:24
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min	gatekeeper: So what should I do?	06:24
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min	my horizontal is 31 KHZ nd my vert is 60HZ	06:25
Jack1	h3sp4wn best way to install kde? via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or how should i do that? SRY FOR BOTHERING	06:25
gatekeeper	min: I was googling trying to get some idea as to what might be going wrong	06:26
min	k ty	06:26
h3sp4wn	Jack1: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop would be fine or aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (I use aptitude)	06:26
dr_willis	Jack1, thats how i normally install it.	06:26
Tommy2k4	can anyone suggest an mp3 player (not amarok or xmms) that can handle m3u files and has global shortcuts	06:27
Jack1	thank u both	06:27
Tommy2k4	and can minimise to tray	06:27
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dr_willis	gee aint you picky. :)	06:27
om_	why is my system so unstable? amarok keeps crashing X, i just unchecked "show installed" in Adept and it disappeared... firefox crashes occasionally too..	06:27
om_	is it just my system or this is the way it is?	06:28
Tommy2k4	well xmms doesnt have global shortcuts and amarok wont play low bitrate wma's for some dumb reason	06:28
h3sp4wn	dr_willis: Got any of those webcams working yet ? (Got one as a free gift don't know whether to even bother trying to set it up - don't really have any use for it either thinking about it)	06:28
dr_willis	I would gyuess a hardware or some odd config/driver issue om_	06:28
dr_willis	h3sp4wn, they are all tossed in a closet somewhere	06:28
torstefan	Okay, how do i restart the kde-panels? Everything is gone.. :P	06:29
om_	dr_willis: so it's pretty stable for most other people?	06:29
dr_willis	very very very satable. :P	06:30
dr_willis	I just cant ever get my webcams to work :)	06:30
dr_willis	then again - i donmt want them to work.	06:30
dr_willis	wife needs to stay out of the XXX chat rooms.	06:30
dr_willis	:)	06:30
Hobbsee	torstefan: killall kicker && kicker?	06:30
Jack1	h3sp4wn would i find in /var or /usr my downloaded progs if i dont want to install them all again?	06:31
gatekeeper	min: does windows use the same horizontal and vert sync?	06:31
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om_	dr_willis: lol	06:31
min	gatekeeper: I think. It worked fine for me on windows.	06:32
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dr_willis	Jack1, best to reinstall them.	06:32
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min	gatekeeper: In windows I turned one monitor off by doing Fn+F2	06:33
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gatekeeper	min: that should not matter	06:33
min	gatekeeper: ALright	06:34
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Jack1	dr_willis probably right, just hate it doing all configuring again...if i copy my /home would i have my preferences and data eg in kontact (kmail, akregator, knode) again?	06:34
torstefan	Hobbsee: Done that, but the .. interface is gone. U know the command to start it?	06:34
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torstefan	the "explorer"	06:34
gatekeeper	min: have you tried a linux liveCD?	06:34
Jack1	dr_willis or are such things stored in the applications folder or somewhere...	06:35
min	yea I tried ubuntu live cd and I had the same problem	06:35
dr_willis	Jack1, they could be about anywhere. different files go in different spots	06:35
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Tommy2k4	!paste	06:35
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	06:35
min	gatekeeper: yea I tried ubuntu live cd and I had the same problem	06:36
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dr_willis	Jack1, theres a way to get apt to show a list of installed packages. ive used that list and a script to reinstall the packages on other systems.	06:36
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gatekeeper	min:damn :-(	06:36
dr_willis	Jack1, could backup your /var/apt/cache (i think) dir so you dont have to redownload everything.	06:36
dr_willis	if the stuff is still there	06:36
min	arrgh	06:37
min	Ive been doing this for 2 days in a row	06:37
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gatekeeper	min: I think it's getting confused and still thinks it's playing with your laptop monitor	06:38
min	yea exactly	06:38
Jack1	dr_willis oh i burnt that to cd..copy and paste in the folder /var/apt/cache? but how do i say synaptic it should use the progs from there?	06:38
slow-motion	re	06:38
min	gatekeeper: Can I just turn the laptop monitor off?	06:38
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dr_willis	it should look there by default	06:38
min	Like in windows there was this key that siwtches monitors	06:38
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cox377	anyone know the command to force a eth0 port open?	06:39
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yacek	hello	06:39
m-onkey	sudo ifup eth0 maybe	06:39
uniq	cox377: force a port open?	06:39
gatekeeper	min: you could try, if the LiveCD won't resolve the problem I am a bit of a loss to suggest what to do.	06:39
cox377	basically, i want three ports open	06:39
cox377	pop3	06:39
cox377	smtp	06:39
uniq	if you haven't closed them they are open by default.	06:39
min	gatekeeper: What am I suppsoed to do with the live cd?	06:40
m-onkey	ah ports not the interface	06:40
Fiya_ZzZ	hey guys in my messages log i have a bunch of "Jun 27 12:25:03 localhost -- MARK --"	06:40
reSpawn	How can I create virtual eth's ?	06:40
Fiya_ZzZ	anyone know what that is?	06:40
reSpawn	Like eth0:1, eth0:2	06:40
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v3ctor	ifconfig eth0:1 up	06:40
uniq	fiya_zzz: just that, marks. nothing more, nothing less,perfectly normal.	06:40
reSpawn	:o	06:40
reSpawn	Thanks	06:40
yacek	is there any website describing kubuntu after installation tasks?	06:40
fiyawerx	cool	06:41
min	urgh	06:41
reSpawn	v3ctor: can I do ifconfig eht100 up ?	06:41
reSpawn	:)	06:41
reSpawn	even if that eth doesn't exist	06:41
reSpawn	*eth	06:41
gatekeeper	min: If when you booted from the liveCD you got the correct resolution but not from your HDD you could examine the xorg.conf on the RAM disc to see what it was using in the hope that might give a clue as to how to solve the problem	06:41
Jack1	dr_willis would i need to add var/apt/cache or the cd to my sources list?	06:41
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cox377	m-onkey: i have thos hotmail extention for thunderbird, logged into root and all the ports shown green and all works fine and dandy, come back to normal account, opened the ports under firestarter but no go. when i do nmap local host it shows the ports to be open, but when i do nmap 192.168.etc it shows the ports not to be open, i'm under the assumption i need to get them open under them	06:42
uniq	fiyawerx: you can disable them if you put SYSLOGD="-m 0" on top of /etc/init.d/sysklogd	06:42
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fiyawerx	uniq: thanks	06:43
v3ctor	no	06:43
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dr_willis	Jack1, no.. any packages get downloaded to /var/apt/cache so you just copy your files tehre.	06:44
dr_willis	Jack1, or do like i do and make it a nfs share. :P so all the pc's can get to it.	06:44
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Jack1	dr_willis and before synaptic downloads something it would check the cache if the file s already there?	06:45
dr_willis	yes - :P	06:45
Jack1	dr_willis it would do that autaomatically?	06:45
torstefan	a quiz: How do you start the KDE-thingy(don't know the name of it..) ? That holds the "start"butto, and the taskmanager--	06:46
claydoh	the command is "kicker"	06:46
claydoh	as is the name of the panel :)	06:46
h3sp4wn	Jack1: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;-10} ${status;-25} ${Package}\n' \| sort -n (But if you have built from source those apps won't appear in that list)	06:46
torstefan	Oh.. thx :)	06:47
claydoh	np	06:47
Jack1	h3sp4wn...sry i enter this in commandline? Package needs to be repalced by my package name?	06:49
h3sp4wn	Jack1: That will list all the installed packages sorted by size (but ones installed from source)	06:49
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Run it on the old machine check what you need to install and add them to the new one	06:50
fiyawerx	how do you edit the apps in your programs menu	06:50
Jack1	h3sp4wn ok thx	06:50
fiyawerx	n/m, if you right click-edit one, it opens up menu editor :)	06:50
h3sp4wn	Or just right click the k menu	06:51
_rince_	re	06:51
fiyawerx	h3sp4wn: you were the one i was talking to about Yakuake last night right?	06:52
tH4S3c0nDc0m1Ng	Would someone mind takeing a look at my fstab from batebin to see that it is written correctly?	06:53
h3sp4wn	fyawekx: What about it - it is working fine for me now	06:53
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fiyawerx	h3sp4wn: yeah, just wondering if you like it	06:53
h3sp4wn	fiyawerx: I do like it but I still use konsole when I need more space	06:54
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minsin	omg	06:55
minsin	gateskeeper	06:55
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minsin	I think it might have worked	06:55
nico8481	hi	06:56
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minsin	gateskeeper: Remember the xorg.conf file that u showed me for reference? I pasted that into miy xorg.conf file and the resolution ixs right	06:56
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minsin	gateskeeper: But then the kubuntu log in screen?	06:57
minsin	its pushed to the side	06:57
minsin	so I cant see a thing	06:57
minsin	can someone help me?	06:58
minsin	it's almost working	06:58
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: the install with floppy fail...	06:58
minsin	is gateskeeper afk?	06:58
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gioacchino	h3sp4wn: it tell no sistem disc press enter to reboot	06:59
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: Its not a supported installation method	06:59
minsin	anyone?	06:59
gioacchino	how to install ?	06:59
minsin	fuck I was so close	07:00
gioacchino	scsi fail...	07:00
gioacchino	floppy fail	07:00
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Healot	the windows is too large, minsin?	07:00
gioacchino	ide cdrom none...	07:00
gioacchino	net istallation fail...	07:00
h3sp4wn	Does it have a scsi cdrom ?	07:01
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gioacchino	[19:01] <h3sp4wn> Does it have a scsi cdrom ? yes I have onli scasi cdrom..	07:01
gioacchino	and ita fail..	07:01
min	ok	07:01
min	it worked	07:01
gioacchino	I must buy a ide cdrom...	07:02
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: Does the scsi card have a bios on it ? Is it a server ? How new ?	07:02
gioacchino	gioacchino: Does the scsi card have a bios on it ? yes but the istallation from scsi tell > no disc sistem or erro disc	07:03
gioacchino	s it a server ? no	07:03
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h3sp4wn	Read the documentation for the scsi bios you should be able to boot from a scsi cdrom	07:04
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min	h3sp4wn: I got this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem	07:04
min	how do I fix it?	07:04
gioacchino	How new ? it is of 2000	07:05
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gioacchino	the processor	07:05
min	om	07:05
gioacchino	the cpu is a pentium III 500Mhz	07:05
gioacchino	256MB ram	07:05
min	h3sp4wn: I got this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem	07:05
om_	help! my resolution is on 640x800... when i try to change it i get "keep this settings?" and it counts to 15sec.. but nothing happens	07:05
h3sp4wn	giacchino: I would read the documentation for the scsi card	07:05
gioacchino	good vieo card	07:05
min	me too	07:06
h3sp4wn	min: Don't know anything about gui stuff sorry	07:06
min	thats exactly what I have	07:06
min	aww	07:06
min	np	07:06
gioacchino	good audio card ( but fail with linux is a Sound blaster live! )	07:06
h3sp4wn	Soundblaster live should work with linux	07:06
gioacchino	exuse me	07:06
dr_willis	Ive used soundblaster Live! for ates	07:06
dr_willis	ages	07:07
gioacchino	I leave	07:07
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Ertain	Stupid tablet. Darn proximity's messed up.	07:07
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: You need to find out what scsi card you are using	07:07
om_	how do i fix my screen resolution?	07:07
der_daniel	what is the easiest way to install kile 1.9 on kubuntu, please?	07:08
dr_willis	!fixres	07:08
ubotu	x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto	07:08
om_	thanks!	07:08
min	dr_willis: Would that work for this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem?	07:08
min	where can I get the "universe" repository?	07:10
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gioacchino	I am here	07:10
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min	gioacchino: how can I fix http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png rpoblem?	07:11
dr_willis	min you using dual monitors?	07:11
gioacchino	ok I read the model of my controller scsi	07:11
min	yea	07:12
min	it looks like this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png	07:12
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dr_willis	may want to do some reading up on xcinerama and 'twinview' if using a nvidia card	07:12
gioacchino	Min I am a new bebia of linux...	07:12
min	dr_willis: it looks like this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png	07:12
dr_willis	yes min.. i see that. :P	07:12
min	yea	07:12
dr_willis	but still its odd that the panel is not at the bottom	07:12
min	Im on dual	07:12
min	yep	07:13
min	how would I fix this?	07:13
dr_willis	try making a new user, and see if it works right for them.. if so - then its a kde config issue.	07:13
gioacchino	my scsi is SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 01)	07:13
dr_willis	also could try some other window managers and gnome. see if it works right for them	07:13
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min	I changed the xorg.conf to make it look like this. (it was worse before. How would I change this?	07:13
dr_willis	almost looks like the monitor and screen settings are fighting each other.	07:14
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gatekeeper	min: was that from the web site I gave you?	07:14
dr_willis	you can drag windows to the other area?	07:14
leo__	hallo i need a german kubuntu channel	07:15
Raito	(I have a widescreen laptop) How do I set it so that it keeps its correct aspect ratio when switching to 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 (As opposed to stretching)	07:15
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dr_willis	#kubuntu-de	07:15
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: my controller is> SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 01)	07:15
v3ctor	!de	07:15
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	07:16
sbriscoe	guten tag. wie gehtz	07:16
dr_willis	Raito, theres a 'modeline generator' web site that ive used to get the correct modelines for my other widescreen laptops.	07:16
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: Look at adaptec's site and find out how to boot from cdrom	07:16
reSpawn	!ro	07:16
ubotu	I know nothing about ro	07:16
reSpawn	!kde	07:16
ubotu	KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE	07:16
Raito	dr_willis: that is it?	07:16
dr_willis	google for modeline generator	07:16
Raito	thanks dr_willis	07:17
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min	so is there any way to fix this?	07:20
Jack1	h3sp4wn hi u think i can safely copy and paste my old /home folder that it replaces the new one...	07:21
jeff__	hello al	07:21
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Should be ok if they both use dapper	07:21
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: in the site of adaptec tello only windows nt and ms-dos....	07:21
Jack1	h3sp4wn they dont, the old had breezy badger..	07:22
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: All you need to know is how to boot from cdrom	07:22
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gioacchino	h3sp4wn: my sblive audio card fail because I had istalled kubuntu in this hd in another pc	07:22
h3sp4wn	Jack1: I wouldn't copy it straight over then	07:22
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: You need to work out how the scsi card works forget about the soundcard (for now) it should just work anyway	07:23
gioacchino	and after I had move the hard disk on my pc..	07:24
Raito	Where is one's XF86Config's monitor section?	07:24
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Jack1	h3sp4wn...how should i do? pick my applications preferences out and copy that? e.g. /.kde	07:24
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gioacchino	the scsi now ( after the istallation ) is ok	07:25
gioacchino	the sound card fail..	07:25
gioacchino	when I istall the driver emu10k1 v0.20 it fail the istallation of driver...	07:26
h3sp4wn	Jack1: The version of kde has changed (I thought the old one had dapper) copying it will cause problems	07:26
gioacchino	I istall fro root shell...	07:26
gioacchino	I istall from root shell...	07:26
h3sp4wn	gioacchino: You shouldn't need to install the driver but I don't know enough about that card (unless it is ISA or something)	07:27
gioacchino	how to resolv the sound card_	07:27
threat	what package do I install for DIVX and XVID codecs?	07:27
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gioacchino	Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 06)	07:28
Raito	threat: I would reccomend vlc, it can play anything without codecs >_>	07:28
gioacchino	this is my audio card...	07:28
threat	Raito, ok	07:28
Healot	!info libxine-extracodecs	07:28
ubotu	libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB	07:28
gioacchino	my audio card is pci	07:28
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h3sp4wn	gioacchino: I don't understand what you have and haven't done or why you are trying to install drivers (should be already included)	07:30
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threat	Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.	07:30
Healot	!repos	07:30
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	07:30
gioacchino	I have try to istall the driver	07:30
Healot	!multiverse	07:30
gioacchino	but the istallation fail	07:30
gioacchino	because *****.h no such file	07:31
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sbriscoe	where's the any key?	07:31
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gioacchino	the *.h file no such are numerous	07:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	im trying to compile wine and i get this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables	07:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	what does this mean?	07:32
h3sp4wn	Don't understand - emu10k1 is in alsa	07:32
gioacchino	#kubuntu-offtopic	07:33
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Jack1	where should i look for my feeds eg in akregator if i want to copy them ?	07:34
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Healot	any website that have new feed?	07:35
gatekeeper	Jack1: do you want File->Import / Export feeds?	07:35
Jack1	no i would need to bring them from my old machine to the new one? gatekeeper	07:37
MehAdult	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: You don't need to compile. Just apt-get	07:37
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gatekeeper	Jack1: can't you use file->export on the old machine, move the file to the new machine then do File Import??	07:38
threat	Healot, ok that didnt help	07:38
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threat	I already have all components added to my source.list file	07:39
threat	now what?	07:39
ConstrabusGegami	Would someone mind taking a look at my fstab on pastebin? I'm not sure if its written correctly.	07:39
threat	where is libxine-extracodecs?	07:39
Healot	update the list?	07:39
threat	I have main restricted universe and multiverse	07:40
threat	Healot, :/ yes I have done that many of times	07:40
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threat	so where is it?	07:40
Healot	is it enabled on the "dapper" repos?	07:40
Healot	how did you enabled them?	07:40
reSpawn	Can I paste 4 lines?	07:40
threat	I dont know	07:40
threat	ok	07:41
threat	reSpawn, ok	07:41
reSpawn	Section "device" #	07:41
reSpawn	identifier "device1"	07:41
reSpawn	boardname "nv"	07:41
reSpawn	busid "PCI:1:0:0"	07:41
reSpawn	driver "nv"	07:41
reSpawn	screen 1	07:41
reSpawn	can I delete these from my xorg?	07:41
MehAdult	Thats 6	07:41
threat	Healot, using nano	07:41
reSpawn	I already have Section "device" upper	07:41
Healot	if you enabled the "dapper-backports" it is useless then	07:41
Healot	threat: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list	07:41
reSpawn	Healot you talked with me?	07:41
Healot	NO, reSpawn	07:42
reSpawn	okay	07:42
threat	Healot, no	07:42
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	MehAdult: do u know which version is the one in the repos?	07:43
Healot	just throw me the sources.list file, and I'll tell you where is your mistake	07:43
MehAdult	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Pretty recent	07:43
MehAdult	If you use Dapper I mean.	07:43
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	MehAdult: yeah , dapper ,	07:43
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threat	hnmnmmm ok	07:44
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MehAdult	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Yeah.	07:44
threat	hmmm beer in plastic bottles :/	07:45
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der_daniel	does adept have something like an "advanced mode"?	07:46
threat	grrrr	07:46
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der_daniel	it has hardly any options on my default kubuntu 6.06	07:46
fiyawerx	hey guys anyone know how to fix this one? Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".	07:46
fiyawerx	when trying to run glxgears, i've installed the nvidia-glx from adept	07:47
MehAdult	fiyawerx: What kind of graphic card do you have and which driver are you using?	07:47
fiyawerx	nvidia 6600gt pci-e card	07:47
MehAdult	I got that running google earth and I didn't have my nvidia drivers enabled in xorg.conf	07:47
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	MehAdult: i only see dummy packages , both only like 28k, is that what im supposed to install?	07:47
fiyawerx	not sure which driver	07:47
MehAdult	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Did you sudo apt-get install wine?	07:47
MehAdult	fiyawerx: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf \| grep driver	07:48
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	MehAdult: no , i was trying to get it with adept	07:48
MehAdult	Find a line with either nv, nvidia, or vesa or something	07:48
reSpawn	how to reinstall a package with apt-get?	07:48
MehAdult	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Try apt-get	07:48
fiyawerx	oh, weird, its blank	07:48
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MehAdult	reSpawn: sudo apt-get remove package && sudo apt-get install package works	07:49
MehAdult	fiyawerx: Sorry, do \| grep Driver	07:49
MehAdult	Stinking case sensitivity :p	07:49
Jack1	my old breezy machine: it says /tmp is full, cannot write to device..can i empty it from console?	07:49
threat	Healot, hmmmm pastebin isnt working	07:49
threat	Healot, /j #threatdump	07:49
fiyawerx	"nv"	07:49
MehAdult	fiyawerx: What are you trying to run?	07:49
fiyawerx	3 "wacom"'s too, thats odd	07:49
fiyawerx	MehAdult: glxgears	07:50
MehAdult	Oh.	07:50
MehAdult	!nvidia	07:50
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto	07:50
threat	Healot, ok?	07:50
MehAdult	Do that fiyawerx	07:50
fiyawerx	MehAdult: thanks	07:50
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	MehAdult: i sent u a pm ,	07:50
MehAdult	fiyawerx: You're welcome.	07:52
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furgu	Anyone know how to fix this error: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found.	07:53
furgu	kde-config --path services	07:53
furgu	/home/wilsone/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/	07:53
furgu	kword-data is installed	07:53
Roger_Enrasson	Hallo to everyone! I have problems with KDE menu, it doesn't want to update itself. can anyone tell me what to do to resolve?..	07:53
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furgu	You edit and save your changes?	07:54
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Roger_Enrasson	furgu: yes.	07:55
threat	Healot, woot	07:55
threat	thanx mate	07:55
furgu	what do you mean it doesn't want to update itself. What exactly are you doing?	07:55
threat	Healot, where are you from?	07:55
thorondor	why	07:56
Healot	Malaysia	07:56
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thorondor	why	07:56
threat	Healot, oh	07:56
Healot	why what? thorondor	07:56
thorondor	why	07:56
thorondor	because you suck	07:56
Roger_Enrasson	furgu: for example, I install a new package, koffice. It doesn't appear in menu. I remove, for example, sim. It stays in the menu! If I try to manually edit it, it doesn't save any chages anyway	07:57
thorondor	why	07:57
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furgu	I am having a problem getting koffice to even run	07:57
furgu	I think that particular project is broken	07:57
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threat	Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.	07:57
oxpub	anyone know the name of the web based admin tool for ubuntu that came out a while back?	07:57
thorondor	why	07:57
thorondor	why	07:57
Roger_Enrasson	furgu: me too, but I don't actually care, I use OpenOffice. But still... Any application	07:57
thorondor	why	07:57
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gatekeeper	furgu: have you got synaptic installed?	07:58
thorondor	why	07:58
Lynoure	thorondor: What's wrong?	07:58
furgu	gatekeeper, I was using CLI, should I try synaptic instead?	07:58
thorondor	you suck	07:58
Hawkwind	thorondor: It would be nice if you would stop repeating yourself	07:58
sbriscoe	someone's grumpy	07:58
thorondor	Lynoure sucks	07:58
thorondor	Lynoure sucks	07:58
oxpub	ugh	07:58
Roger_Enrasson	Hawkwind: I suppose it's a bot	07:58
thorondor	Hawkwind sucks	07:58
thorondor	no	07:59
thorondor	it's not a bot, fucker	07:59
oxpub	web based ubuntu admin tool name anyone?	07:59
gatekeeper	furgu: synaptic will tell you if the package is broken	07:59
Roger_Enrasson	why no OPs at the channel?	07:59
thorondor	no	07:59
furgu	Roger_Enrasson, Menu Editor is working ok for me. Do you get a progress indicator when you save, that says 'Updating System Configuration'?	07:59
Lynoure	I wish it is a bot. Because rude bots have better lives than rude people	07:59
thorondor	Roger_Enrasson sucks	07:59
thorondor	Lynoure sucks	07:59
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Hawkwind	!kops	07:59
ubotu	Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, or imbrandon	07:59
thorondor	it's not a bot, you smartass	07:59
Roger_Enrasson	furgu: yes, I have. But still no reaction from menu	07:59
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thorondor	Roger_Enrasson sucks	07:59
apokryphos	Hawkwind: yes?	07:59
imbrandon	looks up	08:00
thorondor	Roger_Enrasson is gay	08:00
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Hawkwind	apokryphos: Thanks :)	08:00
sbriscoe	:)	08:00
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apokryphos	bad troll	08:00
Roger_Enrasson	apokryphos: thank you, man :)	08:00
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imbrandon	heh apokryphos / nalioth faster than I ;)	08:00
nalioth	apokryphos: you are good (you can operate MY computer, even)	08:00
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furgu	Roger_Enrasson, works for me, sorry...	08:01
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	hes been here before , i think he uses proxies, thats why u cant really ban him	08:02
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Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: does he always do the why thing?	08:02
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd	yeah , hes retarded	08:02
sbriscoe	why	08:02
sbriscoe	why	08:02
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sbriscoe	see, gets annoying already	08:03
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MehAdult	apokryphos: Hero :)	08:03
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apokryphos	sbriscoe: yes, please do not do it.	08:03
Lynoure	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Maybe there is a way to set autoban on that, somehow.	08:03
Roger_Enrasson	Okay, I repea, maybe anyone knows. Hallo to everyone! I have problems with KDE menu, it doesn't want to update itself. can anyone tell me what to do to resolve?..	08:03
apokryphos	n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no worry, just !ops whenever it happens if you see it	08:03
Roger_Enrasson	*repeat	08:03
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robotgeek	a little late to the party, i guess	08:04
oxpub	web based ubuntu admin tool name anyone?	08:04
imbrandon	oxpub, webmin ?	08:04
uniq	oxpub: webmin.	08:04
oxpub	no	08:04
oxpub	its not	08:04
oxpub	its a ubuntu specific application	08:04
oxpub	any core developers in here?	08:04
Roger_Enrasson	furgu: okay, no problems. :) by the way maybe you know where the menu config is placed?	08:04
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imbrandon	Roger_Enrasson, try ~/.kde	08:05
h3sp4wn	oxpub: Its not a ubuntu specific app (it was dropped from debian because its junk and one guy could not be bothered maintaining it anymore)	08:05
Roger_Enrasson	fungu: only .kderc here. it has my custom font configuration. :)	08:06
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oxpub	h3sp4wn.. then whats the name of it?	08:06
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h3sp4wn	oxpub: webmin	08:06
Roger_Enrasson	fungu: pardon...	08:06
oxpub	no	08:06
oxpub	thats not it	08:06
Roger_Enrasson	imbrandon: only .kderc here. it has my custom font configuration. :)	08:06
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oxpub	it was a ubuntu specific app..	08:06
oxpub	but in developement	08:06
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oxpub	only had one release i believe	08:07
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oxpub	web based ubuntu management system	08:07
oxpub	or something	08:07
h3sp4wn	Web interfaces are a waste of time anyway	08:07
imbrandon	oxpub, but not by the core dev team , try google	08:07
oxpub	ugh	08:07
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oxpub	h3sp4wn.. right, might as well throw out phpmyadmin!	08:07
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h3sp4wn	oxpub: What is wrong with mysqladmin ?	08:08
h3sp4wn	oxpub: Or mysqldump ?	08:08
Healot	http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=web&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all >>	08:08
imbrandon	h3sp4wn, some people like web interfaces	08:08
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Healot	management of what?	08:08
furgu	this is ubuntu admin stuff or sql admin?	08:08
om_	what's wrong with this image magick kubuntu comes with? how come there is no "resize to fit page" ??? anything fast but better i can download instead?	08:08
oxpub	gd	08:09
om_	gf?	08:09
om_	gd?	08:09
furgu	resize to fix what page? imagemagick is CLI only right?	08:09
om_	no.. it's the default image viewer	08:09
om_	i just clicked on a jpeg and it came up...	08:10
om_	it's really bad	08:10
imbrandon	imagemagik is a command line image manip tool	08:10
Jack1	how can i empty the folder /temp ?	08:10
oxpub	like convert	08:10
imbrandon	om_, you probbly are wanting something like krita	08:10
om_	ok i'll try krita, thanks imbrandon!!	08:11
h3sp4wn	imbrandon: I think it encourages people to use things without understanding them properly so when there is a bug in it or it breaks they don't know how to fix it	08:11
imbrandon	Jack1, "cd /tmp && sudo rm -rf /tmp/*"	08:11
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imbrandon	h3sp4wn, thats not the mantra of *buntu though,, easy to use	08:12
Jack1	thx imbrandon	08:12
furgu	gatekeeper: thanks for suggesting using synaptic. I did a complete removal (--purge?) and reinstall, it works now	08:12
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h3sp4wn	oxpub: Why not use mysql-admin (Its gui and it is supported by the people who develop mysql)	08:14
stn	anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu	08:14
furgu	Jack1: Careful using sudo, there may be some things in /tmp you dont want to delete	08:14
stn	anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu	08:14
om_	how do i set what program to open as my default .jpeg viewer?	08:14
furgu	Jack1: You may need to restart X11	08:14
stn	anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu	08:14
gatekeeper	furgu: I am pleased to hear it works now :-) synaptic is a good friend to have.	08:14
furgu	gatekeeper: I mostly use the apt-utilities, a lot easier to find things... first time I have had a problem like this	08:15
Jack1	furgu how can i know? i can use just commandline	08:15
furgu	Jack1: Have you been puting things in there? are you running out of space? type 'df -k'	08:16
furgu	Jack1, when you reboot that directories gets cleared out anyways	08:17
Healot	stn: atm there isn't any like that	08:17
Healot	since Boson only develop Windows application	08:17
stn	ok	08:17
stn	but other simulator for linux	08:17
Healot	there is a network diagram builder though	08:18
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Jack1	my /tmp is full ; it says it cant write to /tmp; x session may exit with an error furgu u have a clue?	08:18
stn	there are other simulator of router for linux	08:18
MehAdult	stn: Run wine?	08:18
Healot	bleh	08:18
stn	i try	08:18
MehAdult	If there's a linux one follow the directions.	08:18
stn	but dont run the program	08:18
Healot	stn: use those then	08:18
furgu	Jack1: How big is your tmp partition?	08:18
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fiyawerx	!easysource	08:18
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	08:18
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stn	i download the vmware for install win98	08:19
Jack1	i think 900 mb furgu	08:19
stn	for run the simulator	08:19
gatekeeper	furgu: I use apt and synaptic, depends what I am doing	08:19
stn	and study	08:19
Healot	do that then, stn	08:20
stn	ok	08:20
om_	i'm trying to find out where the executable of gwenview is... how would i do that?	08:20
furgu	yah then do 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *', then restart X-Windows, ctrl-alt-backspace (make sure everything is saved)	08:21
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om_	cause im trying to make firefox open images with gwenview... but i cant find where it is	08:21
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Healot	whereis gwenview >> om_	08:21
furgu	Jack1, always be careful with sudo and rm -rf anything	08:21
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om_	thanks Healot!	08:22
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Jack1	furgu next thing i cant start failsafe session for commandline it brings the message above	08:22
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ben_	hi :)	08:23
furgu	Jack1, it says it cant write to /tmp;?	08:23
Jack1	furgu ya	08:23
furgu	Jack1, do 'ls -al /tmp' and copy & paste the output	08:23
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Jack1	furgu i cant get a commandline	08:24
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furgu	are you looking at a screen full of text? white on black and nothing else (no gui)?	08:24
ben_	is http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ offline? i can't connect to it via adept	08:24
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furgu	Jack1, try pressing ctrl-alt-F1	08:25
furgu	Jack1, Do you see a login prompt?	08:25
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Jack1	ya+furgu...i knew it..how could i forget	08:26
furgu	Jack1, login, and type 'ls -ald /tmp'	08:26
furgu	Jack1, and try 'du -ks /tmp'	08:27
furgu	Jack1, and tell me what the output is	08:28
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Jack1	tmpfurgu i cant paste it (am on the other lappie) but it brings drwxrwxrwt 8 root root 753664 2006-06-27 20:24	08:28
furgu	Jack1, how about 'du -ks /tmp'	08:29
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Cornellius	What's the best way to install Reiser4 on U/K/Xubuntu ?	08:29
Jack1	furgu /tmp/210.....: permission denied four times	08:30
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der_daniel	does adept have some kind of "advanced mode"?	08:31
h3sp4wn	Cornellius: I think the drivers are there already but you can't install to it because its pretty unstable	08:31
furgu	Jack1, do the 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *'	08:31
sbriscoe	does knetworkmanager support wpa?	08:31
h3sp4wn	der_daniel: sudo aptitude (aptitude is much more advanced than aptitude)	08:31
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h3sp4wn	der_daniel: sudo aptitude (aptitude is much more advanced than adept sorry)	08:31
Cornellius	h3sp4wn: I've heard that it was pretty stable	08:31
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Cornellius	Anyways	08:31
JakubS	sbriscoe: yes	08:32
h3sp4wn	I would probably try it anyway (but many people here don't consider reiser 3 stable)	08:32
furgu	h3sp4wn, I have been using reiserfs... works fine	08:33
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NKjoep	hola	08:33
gatekeeper	Cornellius: there is some info here: http://www.mail-archive.com/reiserfs-list@namesys.com/msg20129.html	08:33
furgu	h3sp4wn, easiest to start using it on install	08:33
furgu	h3sp4wn, pain to convert later on	08:33
h3sp4wn	furgu: I am using it - But people consider it not stable in this channel (last time someone asked)	08:33
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DaSkreech	Morning a;;	08:34
DaSkreech	all	08:34
furgu	h3sp4wn, Unstable supposedly in the case your computer crashes	08:34
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furgu	h3sp4wn, possibility for it to be in some bad state before caches are dumped (power outage)	08:34
h3sp4wn	That has happened twice to me in the last few days (due to 1 second power cuts) and I don't have problems (yet)	08:34
gatekeeper	DaSkreech: it's evening here :-)	08:34
furgu	h3sp4wn, I have never had any problems	08:34
furgu	h3sp4wn, I have been using it for months and many other people I know also	08:35
h3sp4wn	furgu: I think if suse enterprise linux uses it must be reasonably ok	08:35
furgu	h3sp4wn, dont know if I would trust it to a production server, without the right hardware	08:35
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furgu	h3sp4wn, it would need a UPS to be setup to safely bring the server down	08:36
h3sp4wn	furgu: I like veritas on production servers	08:36
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Jack1	furgu it still brings the error xsession warning: unable to write to /tmp x session may exit with an error	08:36
Kr4t05	How do I remove dead files from amaroK's collection?	08:36
DaSkreech	gatekeeper: Evening some! :)	08:36
furgu	Jack1, do 'du -ks /tmp' again	08:36
furgu	Jack1, any change?	08:37
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Cornellius	gatekeeper: That link you gave me is good for Dapper too ?	08:37
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gatekeeper	Cornellius: don't really know to be honest, not really up on it, you would probable need to do a bit of googling	08:39
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Raito	I installed pcsx from a package, (pcsx-bin), but how does it work? typing pcsx in run causes nothing to happen. How come?	08:40
Cornellius	Need a bios for the emulator to work.	08:40
Raito	oh, where are you supposed to put in Cornellius?	08:40
gatekeeper	Cornellius: got to run sorry I could not be more help	08:40
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Raito	*put it in	08:40
Fiyawerx	hey guys whats the command to reconfigure your xorg.conf	08:40
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Cornellius	gatekeeper: No problems, I'll google for some info.	08:41
Raito	sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	08:41
Kr4t05	sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg	08:41
Kr4t05	rofl	08:41
gatekeeper	Cornellius: good luck :-)	08:41
Cornellius	Raito: I don't know since I use a real PSX :)	08:41
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Fiyawerx	aha, i kept typing xsession-	08:42
Fiyawerx	installed the nvidia-glx drivers and my pc doesn't like me anymore :(	08:42
Raito	does anyone know where you should put pcsx bios files?	08:42
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pierre_	salut	08:42
Fiyawerx	here goes again	08:42
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Cornellius	Fiyawerx: Edit xorg.conf and change ''nv'' for ''nvidia''	08:42
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pierre_	here is a englsih chan ?	08:42
der_daniel	thank you h3sp4wn	08:42
ubuntu	!flash	08:43
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ubotu	For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	08:43
pierre_	I have a question	08:43
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sbriscoe	we have an answer	08:43
pierre_	My PC has had a bug	08:43
h3sp4wn	der_daniel: That is the most powerful graphical interface to apt there is	08:43
pierre_	and I wrote a file	08:43
Jack1	furgu no difference i try now to copy my files via live cd	08:44
pierre_	and I don't save	08:44
furgu	Jack1, You arent deleting the things in /tmp...	08:44
pierre_	I had to reboot my pC	08:44
furgu	Jack1, the 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *' isn't doing anything?	08:44
pierre_	how can I have my file	08:44
pierre_	?	08:44
pierre_	with modif	08:44
Cornellius	pierre_: Not to sound harsh, but there #ubuntu-fr for french people :)	08:44
Jack1	furgu i did exactly as u said	08:44
pierre_	ok thanks I don't know	08:45
furgu	Jack1, do 'cd /tmp; df -k .'	08:45
Jack1	ok	08:45
furgu	Jack1, whats the output?	08:45
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gioacchino	hello	08:46
furgu	Jack1, just the use %	08:46
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Jack1	furgu i cant say right now i am just booting from live cd, 5 mins what u mean with %??	08:46
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: :P	08:46
gioacchino	h3sp4wn: I am ok :P	08:47
furgu	Jack1, df gives a report of the output...	08:47
der_daniel	hmm still doesn't work h3sp4wn	08:47
furgu	Jack1... derrr, sorry, it gives you a report of the disk usage	08:47
der_daniel	i tried to install kile to kubuntu 6.06	08:47
h3sp4wn	der_daniel: What is kile ?	08:47
Jack1	furgu ok will do then	08:47
furgu	Jack1, what are you using a live cd on? the computer you are tryng to fix?	08:47
der_daniel	and no matter what i do the package can't be found	08:47
der_daniel	kile is a latex editor	08:47
der_daniel	one second	08:48
Jack1	furgu yes couldt i delete from the live cd the tmp files?	08:48
h3sp4wn	der_daniel: You don't have universe enabled	08:48
furgu	You are deleting the tmp files from the temporary mount on the live CD, if I had to guess, not the /tmp of the hdd you are trying to fix	08:48
der_daniel	http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/tex/kile	08:48
der_daniel	this is kile	08:49
h3sp4wn	Its in universe	08:49
furgu	Jack1, don't use the live cd, just press ctrl-alt-F1 to go the the text login prompt	08:49
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LiquidNerd_work	om_: figure out the amarok problem?	08:49
der_daniel	it should be enabled	08:49
Jack1	furgu ok mom	08:49
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der_daniel	i'll qry you my sources.list, ok?	08:49
furgu	Jack1, mom? dont make me woop yur butt	08:49
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Dragoonz	i need some help with winbind to AD this is what i get:	08:50
Dragoonz	pam_winbind user 'username' granted access	08:50
Dragoonz	login: FAILED LOGIN on console FOR user Module is unknown	08:50
Dragoonz	any ideas?	08:50
Jack1	furgu lol i see the files in the /mnt/hda6/tmp now....	08:50
furgu	Jack1, yah try deleting those	08:50
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dad	I have the latest version of kubuntu, but I have a problem. Every time I change the CDRom it totally freezes.	08:51
scott_	whats better to do to upgrade my system? apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?	08:51
dad	any suggestions?	08:51
der_daniel	you have it as a qry h3sp4wn	08:51
der_daniel	i do get errors when running aptitude update, though	08:51
DaSkreech	dad: When you unmount or when you put in a new CD	08:51
der_daniel	want me to qry those, too?	08:51
ubuntu	howd o i enable the universe repositories in adept?	08:51
dad	someone mentioned I may be setup to automatically mount	08:51
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dad	I never manually mount or unmount it	08:51
der_daniel	i got the same problem soulrider ^^	08:51
h3sp4wn	!repos	08:52
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	08:52
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dad	in fact, I just tried to unmount the cd and it told me it wasn't mounted	08:52
bleaked	so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - so what might this mean?	08:52
dad	has anyone seen this before?	08:52
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Jack1	furgu they are locked as superuser i cannot delete those files doing it now your way need to reboot	08:54
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furgu	Jack1, did you use sudo?	08:54
Jack1	furgu i did it as root via sudo -i+	08:54
Jack1	furgu -i i mean	08:55
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furgu	Jack1, -i shouldnt matter, try it without the live cd	08:55
Jack1	furgu ya	08:56
dad	anybody have any trouble with the computer freezing up when they change the cd?	08:56
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Cornellius	Why is it so slow when copying files from CD/DVD to HD on Ubuntu ? On Windows it takes one minute or two.	08:57
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scott_	might not have dma enabled	08:57
dad	is anyone logged on here, a staff member?	08:58
dad	if so, can they contact me directly?	08:59
robotgeek	dad: why?	09:00
dad	because I need some help solving a little problem	09:00
centyx	In korganizer, I'm trying to figure out how to create an event and a todo that recur every day EXCEPT for every saturday and sunday. Is it possible to exclude a day of the week? The only option I see is to exclude a specific date.	09:00
centyx	is this possible?	09:00
dad	there are so many people in here, I don't think they will read me in the midst of all the rest	09:01
centyx	what's up dad?	09:01
dad	everytime I change a cd my compu freezes up	09:01
dad	it only happens since they put the latest kubuntu version on my pc	09:01
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Jack1	furgu it says 100% usage	09:02
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Dragoonz	I'm having trouble with pam modules i think... i'm attempting to login to and AD server. at prompt i type in login. then <username> then <password>. i get pam_winbind: user <username> granted access then i retype the password again and get the same thing. then i get login: FAILED LOGIN 'console' FOR 'username' Module is unknown. any ideas?	09:03
furgu	Jack1, ok your now using the kernel on the hdd, not the live cd right?	09:03
DaSkreech	dad: How long does it freeze up for?	09:03
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furgu	Jack1... try the cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf * thing again	09:03
Jack1	furgu yes; 2. ok	09:03
centyx	sorry I gotta go	09:03
Healot	btw /tmp is cleared after each reboot	09:03
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dad	DaSkreech, for as long as I can tell forever, but I never actually waited that long. I reboot first	09:04
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DaSkreech	dad: Ok so you put in a CD and it locks up?	09:04
furgu	Healot: I thought so too... obviousaly not in this case	09:04
Jack1	furgu can i now just go back to the login screen?	09:04
furgu	Jack1, ctrl-alt-F1	09:04
dad	DaSkreech, have you seen this before or heard of it?	09:04
DaSkreech	dad: Nope :-) Lets see if we can fix it	09:04
Dany_Filth	hello people	09:04
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Jack1	furgu wont start	09:05
dad	DaSkreech, yes. It freezes up so that I can't even switch from one screen to the other	09:05
Dany_Filth	can you tell me what's the root password on Kubuntu 6.06	09:05
Srecko	What do you think is better (Ubuntu or KUbuntu) ?	09:05
furgu	Jack1, any messages?	09:05
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dad	let me try it now. I will give it no more than 10 minutes	09:05
Jack1	furgu no stays just so	09:05
DaSkreech	Can you press Alt+Ctrl+F1?	09:05
Jack1	shall i reboot furgu	09:05
furgu	Jack1, the Kernel wont start, or the login?	09:05
bleaked	so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off - so what might this mean? Please, anyone?	09:06
dad	DaSkreech, nope. nothing works	09:06
Jack1	furgu the login doesnt go back to the graphical login screen	09:06
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furgu	Jack1... ok, 1 step at a time	09:06
furgu	Jack1... be patient	09:06
bleaked	Dany_Filth: none is set, just use sudo	09:06
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furgu	Jack1... do the cd /tmp; df -k . thing again	09:06
furgu	Jack1... anything change?	09:06
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DaSkreech	dad: ok can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?	09:06
Jack1	furgu still 100% usage	09:07
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furgu	Jack1 ... ok 1 sec	09:07
furgu	type 'df', tell me the directories in the far right column	09:08
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mwiggins	running dapper, rebooted my system and now my sound is not playing!? anyone encountered this before? (module is loaded fine, mixers are all unmuted, speakers actually work (testing with headphones), programs can play to audio device just fine, just no audio is coming out	09:08
mwiggins	it was working last night just fine before i rebooted	09:08
mwiggins	emerge dist-upgrade just in case and it still just not outputting	09:08
furgu	Jack1: type 'df', tell me the directories in the far right column	09:09
mwiggins	anyone encountered this before?	09:09
Lynoure	weedar: bootet or returned for sleep/hibernation?	09:09
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Lynoure	oops.	09:09
furgu	mwiggins, ubuntu got emerge?	09:09
mwiggins	heh old habits die hard, meant to type apt-get	09:09
Lynoure	mwiggins: booted or returned for sleep/hibernation?	09:09
mwiggins	it went down for halt and came back	09:09
Lynoure	mwiggins: the latter is a known bug on many laptops	09:09
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mwiggins	i typed halt in my screen session instead of on the local workstation (doh) and now sound wont work	09:10
weedar	Lynoure: what?	09:10
mwiggins	might have a new kernel from package updates earlier in the week	09:10
Lynoure	weedar: sorry, a nick accident, pressed m too lightly and got your nick instead of mwiggins	09:10
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dad	here goes the test	09:11
furgu	Jack1, try du -ks /tmp	09:11
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furgu	Jack1, whats the last line?	09:11
Dany_Filth	is here someone who can answer me	09:11
dad	DaSkreech! it worked	09:12
furgu	Dany_Filth, there is no root user by default	09:12
Jack1	748 /tmp	09:12
furgu	Dany_Filth, use 'sudo' instead	09:12
DaSkreech	dad: Cool :) What did you do?	09:12
v3ctor	there is a root user..just no root passwd	09:12
dad	how embarrassing. I wasn't paciente enough	09:12
furgu	whatever	09:12
furgu	same diff	09:12
DaSkreech	haha :-)	09:12
DaSkreech	Let that be a lesson to you!! :)	09:12
Dany_Filth	and how i can set the root password	09:13
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furgu	Jack1, I dont know what to tell you man... if root can't delete stuff in tmp yur screwed	09:13
furgu	Jack1, your not using the LiveCD anymore right?	09:13
Jack1	furgu thx .....theres some important stuff there no	09:14
furgu	Jack1, you might be able to destroy the partition and re-create it	09:14
Jack1	furgu but maybe can i that way get my stuff doen from the machine	09:14
furgu	Jack1, using fdisk	09:14
furgu	Jack1, but other than that I am baffled	09:14
Jack1	furgu i see or using gparted?	09:14
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furgu	Jack1, gparted is graphical right? you need CLI only	09:15
furgu	?	09:15
bleaked	Dany_Filth: if you don't know how to set the root password, i'm afraid you shouldn't be logging in as root. So, anything you need to do as root, append the 'sudo' prefix to it. so, sudo apt-get install, or sudo mkdir /mnt/media, or whatever it may be.	09:15
furgu	Jack1, maybe your LiveCD might come in handy now	09:15
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furgu	Dany_Filth: 'sudo bash' to get a root shell	09:16
LiquidNerd_work	Dany_Filth: but to set the root password, do, "sudo passwd root"	09:16
LiquidNerd_work	but again, shouldn't login as root	09:16
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LiquidNerd_work	though somtimes writting sudo 100 times gets really annoying	09:17
negocio	hi mens	09:17
negocio	i need help with dosemu	09:17
negocio	anyone knows?	09:17
furgu	ugh... I tried dosemu before with no luck	09:17
negocio	!dosemu	09:18
ubotu	I know nothing about dosemu	09:18
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LiquidNerd_work	!windows	09:18
ubotu	For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm	09:18
furgu	!osx	09:18
ubotu	I know nothing about osx	09:18
LiquidNerd_work	lol	09:18
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furgu	!aix	09:18
ubotu	I know nothing about aix	09:18
furgu	hmmm	09:18
furgu	!ubotu	09:19
ubotu	I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage	09:19
furgu	all knowing eh?	09:19
negocio	need help with dosemu	09:19
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furgu	What is your question negocio?	09:19
h3sp4wn	Ubotu - Doesn't know anything I want to know	09:19
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negocio	y need to mount /home/negocio/msdos as a hd	09:19
negocio	but i have some error	09:19
negocio	i add the line to fstab	09:20
dad	thanks DaSkreech	09:20
furgu	negocio, what is some error? Be specific?	09:20
negocio	and then $mount /home/negocio/msdos	09:20
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furgu	negocio, what language do you natively speak?	09:20
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negocio	spanish	09:20
negocio	sorry	09:20
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negocio	and when i try to mount it tell me:	09:21
furgu	Is there a spanish ubuntu channel?	09:21
negocio	bad system file	09:21
negocio	i dont know	09:21
LiquidNerd_work	!pickup lines	09:21
ubotu	I know nothing about pickup lines	09:21
furgu	try #ubuntu-es	09:21
cryptom	hi all, I'm using dapper on a thinkpad X40, I implemented EmulateWheelTimeout (and EmulateWheel and EmulateWheelButton), scrolling works, but pasting with the middle button is not possible?!	09:21
jpatrick	!es	09:22
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.	09:22
cryptom	is this a known problem? thought it would be gone with dapper?!	09:22
furgu	hehehe	09:22
negocio	but about to give some help?	09:22
Jack1	furgu you are so right .	09:22
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LiquidNerd_work	cryptom: is that a question?	09:22
furgu	I am? W00t	09:22
negocio	there are 15 persons on that channel	09:22
negocio	here are 250	09:22
LiquidNerd_work	and they're all out to get you	09:23
negocio	i think that anyone can help me	09:23
cryptom	LiquidNerd_work, well, yes it is... is there a solution to have both: middle button scrolling _and_ pasting?	09:23
furgu	ok negocio, you can't mount your ms-dos partition?	09:23
negocio	no	09:23
negocio	i cant	09:23
negocio	i do not know why	09:23
LiquidNerd_work	is it fat or msdos?	09:23
furgu	What is your error negocio?	09:23
negocio	i add this line to fstab	09:23
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word	you normally shouldn't have to add the line to fstab..you should just have to go into system settings - > hard discs and partitions - > then administrater mode and set a mount point and then enable it	09:24
word	negocio ^	09:24
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LiquidNerd_work	cryptom: not sure.. does the middle button do anything at all currently?	09:24
negocio	dev/hda2 /home/negocio/msdos msdos umask=000	09:24
negocio	wait a minute	09:24
LiquidNerd_work	negocio: are you sure it's not vfat?	09:24
negocio	i dont know	09:24
negocio	how i check it?	09:25
LiquidNerd_work	fdisk	09:25
LiquidNerd_work	or just try mounting it as vfat	09:25
negocio	in terminal?	09:25
furgu	I would use System Settings first	09:25
cryptom	LiquidNerd_work, yes, the middle button works for scrolling	09:25
Healot	fdisk -l	09:25
furgu	per word suggestion	09:25
negocio	wait me a minute	09:25
LiquidNerd_work	no	09:25
furgu	heh	09:26
LiquidNerd_work	no waiting for you	09:26
kane_	is it a windows drive ?	09:26
kane_	anyway, it is more likely to be vfat than msdos	09:26
LiquidNerd_work	cryptom: is it a wheel?	09:26
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LiquidNerd_work	I'm thinking if it's an msdos partition, kiss all your data goodbye because it's old dos and useless	09:26
cryptom	LiquidNerd_work, yes and no: Thinkpad trackpoint and usb wheel mouse (both work with scrolling now)	09:26
negocio	let me ask you liquid	09:27
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negocio	i have a foxpro for DOS that i have to make work	09:27
negocio	i try dosbox	09:27
negocio	and qemu	09:27
negocio	i think that dosemu can handle	09:27
LiquidNerd_work	cryptom: Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"	09:28
LiquidNerd_work	is that in your xorg.conf?	09:28
negocio	what kind of type do i setup to the new mounting point	09:28
negocio	?	09:28
cryptom	LiquidNerd_work, I tried with it and without it... same effect (but in my conf, it said "on", not "true")	09:29
Jack1	furgu it says the files are just readable...even me being superuser	09:29
Jack1	furgu now using knoppix-cd	09:30
furgu	Jack1, the permissions shouldnt change... what are you trying to do that it says it is only readable?	09:30
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furgu	Jack1, the /tmp partition might be mounted as read-only	09:30
furgu	Jack1, can you check that?	09:31
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Jack1	furgu rights are drwxrwxrwx , root root	09:32
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cryptom	LiquidNerd_work, my InputDevice Section looks like that: http://kris.koehntopp.de/service/paste/show.html?id=160	09:33
furgu	yah Jack1 I know... try looking at your fstab file to see how it is being mounted	09:33
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Jack1	furgu ext3 noauto, users, exec 00	09:34
furgu	why the noauto and exec?	09:36
furgu	oh well	09:36
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furgu	Jack1, try to destroy that partition and recreate I guess	09:36
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Jack1	furgu it would help me right away if i could copy files from the /home directory but it says they are just readable...	09:38
bam_	how come when I eject my external usb drive it doesnt eject?	09:39
Jack1	furgu that 'd be enough	09:39
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furgu	Jack1, Are you certain you mount /tmp as a seperate partition?	09:39
furgu	bam_, you should just need to sync then pull it out, by eject do you mean unmount?	09:40
bam_	no I unmounted it	09:40
Jack1	no it seems not....its on the /home partition somewhat	09:40
Jack1	furgu seeing it from here, my notes told me different	09:41
furgu	Jack1, so /tmp and /home are the same partition? does your live-cd have an irc client? it would be nice to see your fstab or df output	09:41
bam_	but normally in the past I would eject it and the normal screen would appear and not the "usb connected" screen	09:41
nico8481	is there a way to try MacOS X on a PC running kubuntu (via some kind of virtual PC or something)?	09:41
ChefWill	whats the shortcut to select a window to kill in kubuntu?	09:42
Jack1	wait i copy it to the pastebin here	09:42
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Healot	VMware doesn't support MacOSX, because it is created for PowerPC CPU...	09:43
edu	hi	09:43
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Healot	but there is an OS 9 emulator out there, somewhere	09:43
furgu	nico8481: try pearpc	09:43
edu	hey people	09:43
edu	i need some help	09:43
Healot	and OSx86 project	09:43
skizzo21	Hey guys... I finished my Kubuntu install on one partition but when I went to install my XP on the other partition it auto boots to XP everytime I don't even get a selection screen... anyone know how to release XPs control?	09:43
Healot	!grub	09:44
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	09:44
edu	skizzo21, did you install grub?	09:44
skizzo21	uhhhhhhhhh	09:44
skizzo21	lol	09:44
skizzo21	i htought it auto installed	09:44
edu	nops	09:44
skizzo21	like before i had a screen to choose	09:44
edu	xD	09:44
nico8481	furgu: and what about OSX? is there an open version that i can run on top of pearpc? darwin maybe?	09:44
furgu	skizzo21, you need to install XP first then ubuntu after	09:44
skizzo21	ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit	09:45
furgu	nico8481: no legal version really... you can find torrents if your a pirate	09:45
edu	once it is installed, that screen appears	09:45
skizzo21	xp keeps runing my life one day at a time	09:45
edu	:)	09:45
nico8481	furgu: what about darwin?	09:45
furgu	nico8481: or if you have a friend with a mac that is easier	09:45
skizzo21	so xp first then kubuntu????	09:45
Healot	skizzo21: either way works	09:45
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nico8481	furgu: not really :(	09:45
furgu	nico8481, might be able to find something...	09:45
Healot	if you know how to do it	09:45
skizzo21	wait... i already installed kubuntu	09:45
skizzo21	and then i instralled xp	09:46
skizzo21	o	09:46
skizzo21	lol	09:46
Healot	!grub	09:46
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	09:46
Jack1	furgu i cannot write to the usb stick from live cd it shall not be...i just need to get my home directory copyable....	09:46
Healot	follow those links	09:46
furgu	nico8481: try http://www.opendarwin.org/	09:46
skizzo21	is there a way to save it?? or am I hosed	09:46
skizzo21	k	09:46
nico8481	thx	09:46
skizzo21	thanks everyone	09:46
Jack1	furgu to an usbstick	09:46
furgu	nico8481: I think it isn't an easy thing to do, you might need osx to compile anything	09:46
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nico8481	hmm :-/	09:46
furgu	Jack1, sounds fuct, try to find a friend who might be able to sit down and look at it, if not find a way to back up and reinstall maybe...	09:47
furgu	Jack1, which LiveCD are you using?	09:47
nico8481	damn i'm tempted by the macbook but it's soo expensive... and sooo "light" (512MB ram hum)	09:47
Jack1	furgu knoppix 3.3, have here breezy ubuntu and kanotix	09:48
Blissex	nico8481: to be allowed to buy a MacBook you need to prove you have a goatte and a piercing...	09:48
furgu	nico8481, they do look nice... nice and expensive yes... wish they had AMD tho	09:48
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h3sp4wn	Jack1: Kanotix is the fastest is it not ?	09:48
nico8481	Blissex: what's a goatte?	09:48
furgu	Jack1, is that a really old version of Knoppix? They are in 5.1 now...	09:48
Blissex	nico8481: a goatee, a thin bear on your chin.	09:49
Blissex	nico8481: a goatee, a thin beard on your chin.	09:49
nico8481	hmm i miss the piercing then :p	09:49
Blissex	nico8481: it helps if you also dress entirely in black :-)	09:49
furgu	Blissex, to run unix you need to prove you are smug and dont shower too	09:49
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Jack1	furgu yes but it was for free and they sent me that one...	09:49
furgu	Jack1, download the newest version of the intarweb and burn it	09:50
Blissex	furgu: actually for UNIX the entry requirements used to be sandals and big glasses.	09:50
furgu	Blissex, did they cut the long hair requirements?	09:50
nico8481	damn hard decision :-/	09:50
Jack1	furgu the prob isnt so much the fucked /tmp its more that icannot copy my homefiles with the livecd to usb and use it on the new lappie	09:50
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Blissex	furgu: long hair or being bald usually :-)	09:51
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furgu	Jack1, I know, a newer knoppix might help with that	09:51
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Jack1	furgu ok i try	09:51
LiquidNerd_work	Jack1: can't use smb to transfer?	09:51
furgu	Blissex, I like the long hair with balding top option...	09:51
LiquidNerd_work	or if you can burn a cd, why not that option?	09:51
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Blissex	furgu: a ponytail used to help become senior UNIX sysadm...	09:51
Jack1	LiquidNerd_work samba u mean? just got the internet cat5 cable right away would need buy a new cable	09:52
nico8481	then again, i guess there is more work being done to make linux work on the macbook than on any other laptop...	09:52
LiquidNerd_work	no router/hub?	09:52
Jack1	no LiquidNerd_work	09:52
LiquidNerd_work	ahh	09:53
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LiquidNerd_work	and you can't burn it to a CD?	09:53
nico8481	and since i can' t find any currently sold (i don't count the outdated ones) laptop on which everything works with linux... and i don't want to use windows...	09:53
nico8481	leaves me only the macbook... :-/	09:53
LiquidNerd_work	nico8481: aren't there nfidia based notbooks?	09:54
nico8481	LiquidNerd_work: nvidia? maybe... why?	09:54
LiquidNerd_work	nico8481: well the nfidia (not nvidia) boards work perfectly with linux	09:54
furgu	nico8481: I have used some macs, I would recommend... try opendarwin I need to try it myself I dont think it has aqua with it tho	09:54
nico8481	LiquidNerd_work: yup but generally you still have lots of features that are broken... wifi/ suspend to ram/ stuff like that...	09:55
furgu	nfidia?	09:56
LiquidNerd_work	the wifi normally works with ndis, suspend to ram... I don't think that works with any notebook.. even on Windows...	09:56
LiquidNerd_work	furgu: the nvidia boards	09:56
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LiquidNerd_work	well chipset for boards	09:56
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LiquidNerd_work	ieL ASUS P5ND2-SLI	09:56
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nico8481	well i mean to disk or whatever	09:56
LiquidNerd_work	s/ieL/ie:/	09:56
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german	hi there	09:56
nico8481	"suspend" :-)	09:57
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nico8481	hi	09:57
german	i need some support to install rubbrt or tex2pdf	09:57
german	i mean rubber	09:57
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german	is here somebody who use one of this programms?	09:58
edu	hey, guys... i need some help to choose a linux-compatible laptop	09:58
nico8481	furgu: well if aqua's not there maybe it is doesn't really give you a preview of what it is to use OSX :-/	09:58
reagleBRKLN	howdy, i can't play mp3s on juk... I followed http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s and installed libxine-extracodecs	09:58
crazy_penguin	hi all!	09:58
reagleBRKLN	juk: WARNING: Unable to play /e/mp3/indie/16 Horsepower/16 Horsepower - New Banjo.mp3	09:59
nico8481	german: nope, but have you tried to install them via apt ?	09:59
LiquidNerd_work	reagleBRKLN: yeah... that's why... look at the mp3... sheesh	09:59
edu	do you know any linux-compatible laptop?	09:59
DaSkreech	reagleBRKLN: What engine are you using?	09:59
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reagleBRKLN	LiquidNerd_work: don't understand	09:59
LiquidNerd_work	lol	09:59
edu	i know nothing about notebooks	09:59
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LiquidNerd_work	I'm saying it's not playing because it's a banjo song	09:59
reagleBRKLN	oh	10:00
reagleBRKLN	daschu: output to arts	10:00
LiquidNerd_work	yeah but you should be able to choose which engine it uses	10:00
reagleBRKLN	are you suggesting I use akode?	10:01
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edu	one more question... users MUST be members of the group "audio" to be able to listen sounds?	10:01
nico8481	edu: yes i think so	10:01
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Jack1	guys do u know how i would the windows key to do the opening of the kmenu?	10:01
LiquidNerd_work	edu: yeah.. but by defualt kubuntu adds them to it	10:02
german	@nico: did you get my messages?	10:02
Healot	because the sound deamon use that user group to be able to play audio	10:02
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Jack1	i mean reassigning the key	10:02
nico8481	german: nope	10:02
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edu	thanks nico, that's because i am listening silence lol	10:02
german	does /msg name not work?	10:02
german	or is it /whisper?	10:02
nico8481	it's /msg... but my nick is nico8481, not nico :)	10:03
edu	Liquid, i have created some users and ONLY are members of their own group... (personal group)	10:03
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german	i know:) ok one more try	10:03
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edu	and i am not able to listen nothing	10:03
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reagleBRKLN	akode works	10:04
nico8481	german: is your registered on freenode? private messages from unregistered users are blocked...	10:05
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Healot	KDE is German	10:05
german	ah, that's it. I'm not registered...	10:05
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LiquidNerd_work	Jack1: System Settings / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Layout / Xkb Options / Third Level Choosers / Press any of Win-keys to choose 3rd level	10:05
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german	@nico8481: I used aptitude install; but there are unsolved dependencies....	10:06
nico8481	unsolved?	10:06
Healot	!repos	10:06
ubotu	The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource	10:06
edu	I see... the first user, that was created during the installation is member of "admin", "audio", "video" and more... but what about "normal" users?	10:07
nico8481	german: try "sudo apt-get install rubber"	10:07
Healot	!info rubber	10:07
ubotu	rubber: an automated system for building LaTeX documents. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 408 kB	10:07
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german	@nico: i tried this, too...	10:07
Healot	edu: the group "users"	10:07
nateman1352	hi everyone, I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 and I'm trying to get remote X clients to connect to my local X server via ssh and I can't seem to get it working (I am using ssh -X)	10:07
german	but it needs python <2.4....	10:07
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edu	healot, but i need to add them manually... they are not members of "users" when created	10:08
german	and if i try to remove python2.4 to install one older version, must of my system will be removed (about 300mb)	10:08
Healot	!info python2.3	10:08
ubotu	python2.3: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.3). In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.3.5-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2728 kB, installed size 9368 kB	10:08
ljl	nateman1352: first problem if your xauth. second problem is that X is launched with TCP disabled by default. by i don't remember the details	10:08
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Healot	install python2.3 then	10:08
fiyawerx	are there any suggested "install these first" guides for kubuntu?	10:08
Healot	kubuntu.org	10:09
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german	i could not install python2.3 without removing 2.4...	10:09
Healot	just follow the FAQ links	10:09
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edu	Healot: but i need to add them manually... they are not members of "users" when created	10:09
german	and i dont want to loose about 300megs	10:09
german	thats most of kde	10:10
Healot	edu: you can add a user to users group when you're using GUI	10:10
furgu	nateman1352, what is your error?	10:10
fiyawerx	Healot: the only thing really there is about mp3s on http://kubuntu.org/faq.php	10:10
Healot	or command line even	10:10
edu	Healot: I know	10:10
Healot	fiyawerx: yup one of the essential	10:10
kosh	german: that seems strange I have python 2.3 and 2.4 both installed right now and used for different things	10:10
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kosh	german: python 2.3 does not conflict with 2.4	10:10
edu	Healot: I'm just saying that users are not members of "users" by default	10:10
furgu	ljl, i have no problem with tunneling X thru ssh by default install	10:10
Healot	edu: what seem to bother you then, edu?	10:10
fiyawerx	yeah, i was thinking about like firefox, plugins, java, etc..	10:10
fiyawerx	altho i guess i could look at everything automatix does and just do the ones i want manually	10:11
Healot	!firefox	10:11
ubotu	firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins	10:11
Healot	!flash	10:11
german	just a moment, i try to install python2.3...	10:11
ubotu	For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	10:11
Healot	!java	10:11
ubotu	java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository	10:11
edu	Healot: my users cannot listen any sound	10:11
furgu	<nateman1352> are you alive?	10:11
fiyawerx	ok, those are nice, it would be nice to have them in one guide too tho :)	10:11
Jack1	furgu with kanotix 04-2005 it works now so i transfer the kmail, knode, etc files by hand...thank u	10:11
fiyawerx	Healot: thanks	10:11
Healot	edu: add them to audio user group then?	10:11
kosh	the biggest advantage of a 64bit system is stuff like flash stops working :)	10:12
furgu	Jack1 np, try deleting the files off your partition with the new version of knoppix also	10:12
german	thats the message i get: Reading extended state information	10:12
german	Initializing package states... Fertig	10:12
german	No candidate version found for python2.3	10:12
german	The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: rubber	10:12
german	The following packages have been kept back: libmysqlclient14	10:12
german	The following packages will be REMOVED: rubber	10:12
german	0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.	10:12
edu	Healot: ok, I'll try... thanks... but it's funny... isn't it?	10:12
german	Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 248kB will be freed.	10:12
Jack1	furgu right i do	10:12
edu	Healot: I mean, it's weird...	10:12
Healot	i have like 6 users in my home network... ssh -X or vnc work like automagic, sounds, graphics printers	10:12
kosh	german: so it looks like one package will be removed that has something to do with latex documents	10:12
Healot	edu: it's the matter how much you know... not weird btw :)	10:13
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kosh	german: what version of kubuntu are you running?	10:13
german	Breeyt badger	10:13
fiyawerx	will things that say This is for i386 work on i686 as well? or no	10:13
german	Breezy badger	10:13
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Healot	fiyawerx: what things?	10:14
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edu	Healot: I think that users must be able to use audio devices by default, it's weird they can't do it	10:14
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Healot	i686 is just like i386 enhanced	10:14
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fiyawerx	Healot: looking at the firefox wiki entry, it says .. right, thats what i thought, it says i386 vs amd64, so what they really mean is x86	10:14
Healot	edu: I don't understand that either, ask developers for that	10:14
Healot	amd64 is just the 64bit port, fiyawerx, same fundamental but different workaround	10:15
Jack1	furgu it doesnt work anyway it doesnt matter i got a new subnotebook+	10:15
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kosh	german: that just seems strange, make sure that universe is enabled and then try again just in case	10:15
german	you mean in my sources.list	10:16
edu	Healot: ok, thank you very much	10:16
Healot	btw, ubuntu only has three official ports, i386, amd64 and ppc...	10:16
Healot	i386 release can use the i686 kernel btw...	10:16
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fiyawerx	Healot: thats what I did, upgraded to the 686 kernel	10:16
kosh	german: yes	10:16
Healot	waiting for the multiport release! edgy eft	10:16
fiyawerx	Healot: havn't really noticed a difference, just figured i'd try it, don't even know what the differences are	10:16
kosh	there are almost no differences performance wise between an i386 and i686 kernel	10:17
Healot	fiyawerx: that doesn't affect anything... well i mean the flash etc installation	10:17
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kosh	however if you had a 486 or 586 processor there are pretty large advantages to running the appropriate kernel	10:17
german	ok, here are the lines:deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe	10:17
german	deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe	10:17
kosh	okay so they are there then	10:17
fiyawerx	right, i mean in general what does it do? I know there was mention of support for hyperthreading, which my processer has, but i don't even know mucha bout that	10:17
german	but it doesnt work	10:18
kosh	so try doing sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install python2.3	10:18
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german	just a moment...	10:18
kosh	fiyawerx: hyperthreading does not do much	10:18
Healot	python2.3 and 3.4 can coexist	10:18
Healot	SMP is the real thing	10:19
kosh	fiyawerx: however if you had multiple processors or multiple core processors then you would need an smp kernel	10:19
kosh	Healot: not they can not .... 3.4 does not exist yet they are only working on the beta for 2.5 right now :)	10:19
Healot	damn, I can do that with previous breezy and hoary	10:19
kosh	Healot: python 1.5 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 and 2.5 can all coexist but 3.4 can't since it does not exist :)	10:20
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Healot	2.4 TYPO :)	10:20
german	it seems, that i can't connect to archive.kubuntu.de breezy/universe at this time...	10:20
Healot	i know that, just overlooked what i typed	10:21
kosh	ah well that would be a problem then since I think that is where the package you need is	10:21
german	#gaaaah# i think nobody know when the server will be reachable again :)	10:22
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Healot	KDE is German :)	10:22
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rickz	DCC SEND "BBQHAX" 0 0 0	10:22
german	???	10:22
furgu	Healot you are a wealth of knowledge	10:22
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Healot	just like to play around with the "KDE is German" propaganda	10:23
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german	aha, whats up with this "propaganda"?	10:23
german	i haven't heard about it.	10:23
ryanakca	hmmmm... this is for the Xorg people... why do I get this error when trying to upgrade the fglrx driver (the ubuntu package seems to be broken when it comes to gl...) http://pastebin.ca/73408	10:24
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furgu	Maybe its just ATI ryanakca	10:24
furgu	I have heard there are lots of issues with their drivers being broken by default	10:25
ryanakca	maybe	10:25
Healot	ryanakca: third party, not really supported, and aTi installer is evil, it broke your ubuntu system at most the of time	10:25
KuLover	ryanakca What card are you in?	10:25
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KuLover	on*	10:25
ryanakca	lol... ok... so ATI driver is busted :)...	10:25
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Healot	use the stock module from linux-restricted-module instead	10:25
ryanakca	Radeon 9200 SE	10:25
nep87	why kde is better than gnome?	10:25
Healot	KDE is German :)	10:26
furgu	nep87 KDE pwns GNOME	10:26
Healot	hohoho	10:26
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Healot	nah, I joke	10:26
ryanakca	nep87: bad question... it'll start a Desktop Environment war :P	10:26
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Healot	!ati	10:26
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto	10:26
ryanakca	but... It's nicer... and because I like it :)	10:26
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furgu	nep87 KDE got in a fight with Chuck Norris and killed him with the twitch of a GUI	10:26
furgu	nep87 that is REAL ULTIMATE POWER	10:26
nep87	:)	10:26
Healot	ryanakca: that the link to install...	10:26
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centyx	How do you make the Backspace key send CTRL-H in KDE, particularly Konsole?	10:27
Healot	you need to supply the fake X version before installing ati driver in dapper	10:27
furgu	cyntyx do you have a broken backspace key?	10:27
ryanakca	hmmm... wiki keeps on forwarding to help.ubuntu.com/*	10:27
german	so, the server is "online", perhaps it will work now...	10:27
nep87	but kde sometimes freezs	10:27
furgu	nep87 must be UE	10:27
nep87	ue?	10:27
furgu	nep87 yes, cause be l-users...	10:27
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german	is here somebody who uses "fluxbox" :)	10:28
centyx	furgu: seriously, how do I get backspace to act like ctrl-h in konsole :P	10:28
furgu	centyx, does your problem happen outside of konsole?	10:28
centyx	no	10:28
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centyx	i can backspace in other applications	10:29
edu	one more question, please :P	10:29
driz	HEllo	10:29
furgu	centyx, I mean other terminals...? not random apps but xterm or any shell	10:29
centyx	ah	10:29
centyx	sorry	10:29
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centyx	lemme see	10:29
centyx	furgu: works in xterm ok	10:30
weedar	I'd lovet to be able to turn off the sound in Konsole forever, not just for the current session. Anyone? :)	10:30
german	wuw it works, thank you all ;) ;) ;)	10:30
edu	in my "/etc/group" file i have found a group called "users"... my question: all users are member of this group BY DEFAULT when created?	10:30
KuLover	Could someone please take a look at my fstab? I'm not sure that it is written correctly. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16640	10:30
furgu	centyx, try different options under Settings -> Keyboard	10:30
TheHighChild	Does anyone know how to set a key combination to the "Desktop Access" applet?	10:30
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h3sp4wn	weedar: I just disable the kde sound server entirely -	10:30
uniq	edu: no, every user has its own group by default.	10:31
furgu	in Konsole centyx	10:31
slow-motion	n8	10:31
uniq	edu: this is configured in /etc/adduser.conf	10:31
centyx	furgu: I've tried 'linux console' and 'xterm xfree 4.x.x', I'll try something else	10:31
edu	uniq: yes, I know... but what Secondary Groups are assigned by default?	10:31
Healot	KuLover: need to compare that with the output of "fdisk -l"	10:32
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uniq	edu: none.	10:32
edu	uniq: thanks!! very helpful	10:32
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centyx	furgu: hm. vt420pc worked. none of the others did tho.	10:33
centyx	that's odd.	10:33
ryanakca	why do some wiki's say reboot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI couldn't I just go ctrl-alt-backspace? I thought you only had to reboot after kernel upgrade...	10:33
furgu	weird, dunno... other option is look at the stty command	10:33
furgu	stty erase ^H or something	10:33
nep87	do you have troubles with usb devices such as pen drives, mp3 reader??	10:33
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centyx	thanks	10:33
Healot	ryanakca: after compilign ati driver, you need to restart	10:34
furgu	np	10:34
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uniq	ryanakca: the wiki and helpers often tell you to reboot even though it is not strictly needed. But it's some times the fastest and easiest way to get everything going the right way.	10:34
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weedar	h3sp4wn: thanks for the suggestion. That is one solution, yes, but then I'll miss out on all of the other interesting KDE sounds? :-O	10:34
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h3sp4wn	weedar: They just annoy me the kde sounds	10:34
edu	uniq: I have a problem with my audio device... I can only use it when I log in as root! Any idea?	10:35
uniq	edu: check that you're in the 'audio' group.	10:35
h3sp4wn	edu: Add your user to the audio group	10:35
juan_	Are you following the France vs. Spain ? Who is winning?	10:35
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Healot	juan_: watch the TV?	10:35
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edu	uniq, h3sp4wn: so, users can't handle audio devices by default?	10:36
trispace	hi, does somebody know where the konqueror user agent string is set?	10:36
Healot	web, radio or SMS services?	10:36
juan_	healot: right here I don't have tv	10:36
h3sp4wn	edu: The first one should automatically be able to	10:36
uniq	edu: no. Only the user added during install.	10:36
fiyawerx	hmm, when i made an icon for firefox with the kde menu editor it works ok, but when i launch it, the little bouncing icon isn't colored at all	10:36
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furgu	trispace, if I recall correctly, I think it is in a binary file somewhere... are you trying to change it?	10:36
juan_	healot: well, I was just asking here, that's another way	10:36
LjL	trispace: settings / configure konqueror / browser identification	10:36
Healot	trispace: Tools -> Change Browser Identification	10:36
furgu	guess not	10:36
edu	uniq, h3sp4wn: ok, thanks a lot!	10:36
furgu	nevermind	10:36
uniq	edu: there are other groups for access to other devices/actions. Like 'plugdev' for removable devices for example.	10:37
\|lostbyte\|	Is it worth learning linux on a vm ?	10:37
furgu	<\|lostbyte\|> sure	10:37
Healot	or Settings - > configure konq. select browser identification, trispace	10:37
furgu	<\|lostbyte\|> - try cygwin... good way to start	10:38
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Healot	\|lostbyte\|: worth every cent buying VMware	10:38
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\|lostbyte\|	furgu, THen what will hardware be recognized as ?	10:38
furgu	\|lostbyte\| but it can be hard to setup X Windows	10:38
Healot	sup min lee, worked out your duo-screen yet?	10:38
trispace	basically i wanted to remove the "Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper" string	10:38
\|lostbyte\|	furgu, ok !	10:38
edu	uniq: do you mean, floppies, CDs... ?	10:38
KuLover	Healot, Ive added my Fdisk to the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16655	10:38
furgu	\|lostbyte\| there are different ways to do it but usually it recognizes as very generic devices	10:38
min	Healot: no.	10:38
min	sigh	10:38
\|lostbyte\|	furgu, why ?	10:38
min	o yea	10:39
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min	now I have this problem	10:39
\|lostbyte\|	furgu, thats what i thought.	10:39
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furgu	\|lostbyte\| Cygwin could use a more user-friendly installation system... thats all	10:39
german	good night, good fight!	10:39
german	cu all!	10:39
Healot	\|lostbyte\|: the hardware will be configured by the vm program that you're using	10:39
min	Healot: I got most of it done	10:40
uniq	edu: yes, those too. dialout, floppy, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin (printing adm), scanner, etc.	10:40
min	Healot: Except now its http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png	10:40
fiyawerx	!easysource	10:40
marcus__	Someone having a VM problem?	10:40
ubotu	source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic	10:40
h3sp4wn	furgu: What not colinux instead of cygwin ?	10:40
min	whats a vm problem?	10:40
Healot	KuLover: /dev/sdi is ext2/3 partition but you entry says reiserfs?	10:40
min	http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png	10:40
edu	uniq: I see, thanks again!	10:40
furgu	h3sp4wn, have you tried to use colinux? For me it was even worse than Cygwin	10:41
marcus__	Noticed something scroll by about VM Config	10:41
edu	see you!	10:41
marcus__	Guessing VM means Virtual Machine?	10:41
furgu	h3sp4wn, nice idea, but poorly executed	10:41
h3sp4wn	furgu: I have only done it once but it wasn't that bad (once it was configured)	10:41
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furgu	h3sp4wn, I never got past trying to get it to run, but I admit I didn't spend a lot of time on it either	10:42
Healot	btw, most of your partitions are ext2/3, but the entries of the partition say reiserfs, so there is something wrong	10:42
Healot	KuLover:	10:42
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KuLover	Healot.. Odd.. I formated them As ReiserFS	10:42
marcus__	Hmmmm...	10:43
KuLover	Healot How can you tell they are ext's?	10:43
Healot	KuLover: they are still 83/82 (linux partitions)	10:43
Healot	min: do you have output on both screen?	10:43
min	the other monitor is broken remember?	10:44
min	but yea it lit up	10:44
min	(got smashed by baseball	10:44
driz	How come i can't directly install flash player?	10:44
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min	Imm abe right back	10:44
min	think of ideas to fix this.	10:44
min	=]	10:44
KuLover	Healot I know the main partition is ReiserFS, I formated it during the install.. The other ones I formated with Gparted. Why would they by 83s?	10:45
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Healot	driz: using what, the Adobe's package or from repos or prompted by firefox/konq?	10:45
furgu	driz, you need the flashplugin-nonfree	10:45
driz	prompted	10:45
driz	i have that	10:46
marcus__	Just wondering..... What is Kubuntu's problem with Windows hal32.dll?	10:46
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Healot	marcus__: it's a windows dll?	10:46
furgu	driz, you installed that package with apt or synaptic or adept or something?	10:46
driz	apt-get i tried it again it says i have it	10:46
uniq	kulover: 0x83 is correct for reiserfs as far as i know.	10:46
KuLover	Healot, could it be the disklabel?	10:46
furgu	driz, which browser?	10:46
marcus__	?	10:47
driz	firefox	10:47
furgu	which version"?	10:47
KuLover	uniq, Could you take a look at this? Is there anythign wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16655	10:47
driz	furgu i dont know	10:47
KuLover	uniq It contains both my fdisk and fstab	10:47
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uniq	kulover: looking.	10:47
Healot	KuLover: but the partitions mounted properly?	10:47
furgu	in firefox do Help -> About Firefox	10:47
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driz	Gecko/20060608 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.4	10:48
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uniq	kulover: and what is the problem?	10:48
furgu	driz, did you completely close firefox before trying the flash page again?	10:48
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KuLover	Healot Yes, I can use them succesfully. The only problem is that durin boot, it hangs while "checking filesystems" then switched to text mode and continues bootinf after a few seconds.	10:48
driz	ya	10:48
furgu	driz, you have to make sure any 'Downloads' windows are closed too	10:48
Healot	ohh.... reiserfs does use 83...	10:49
KuLover	uniq The only problem is that durin boot, it hangs while "checking filesystems" then switched to text mode and continues bootinf after a few seconds.	10:49
juan_	France won. The fun is over	10:49
driz	yup	10:49
juan_	Damn frenchies :)	10:49
Healot	i think ubuntu think it's an ext2/3, so the disk check fails... KuLover	10:49
driz	i just closed and opened firefox again	10:49
Healot	but I don't think it will affect anything that much	10:50
furgu	driz, try 'sudo /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin'	10:50
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driz	nothing happened	10:51
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driz	it went back to normal	10:52
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juan_	A fast question: dapper freezes the machine after leaving it unatended for 1-2 hours (sometimes it takes a longer time). Do you know if is there any log with traces with the system execution?	10:52
juan_	I'm really lost	10:52
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juan_	I suppose it could be the power management	10:53
furgu	driz, you tried restart firefox and no luck?	10:53
KuLover	uniq Any ideas? :/	10:53
Kr4t05	Someone answer a question for me... I have two different SuperKaramba themes installed, one says I'm only using ~270MB of RAM, the other reports ~900MB or RAM being used. Which is right?	10:54
zorglu1	juan_: i small like you should add 'acpi=off' as a boot option in /boot/grub/menu.lst	10:54
uniq	kulover: checking.. how long does it hang? do you kill it manually to make it continue? (ctrl-c)	10:54
juan_	zorglu1: thank you. I'll give it a try. BTW, what am I losing if I do that ?	10:54
driz	furgu I just went to newgrounds	10:54
driz	nothing	10:54
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KuLover	Uniq, No I just wait.. about 30 sec	10:55
uniq	kulover: does it hang once on every disk?	10:55
zorglu1	juan_: the ability to 'hibernat' your box to consume less energy	10:55
KuLover	Uniq I dont know.. it doesnt say anything.. just hangs then [ok]	10:55
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kosh	Kr4t05: both and neither	10:55
furgu	whats in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/?	10:56
kosh	Kr4t05: figuring out memory usage is not exact by a long shot, so depending on how they are figuring out how much memory is being used they are probably both correct and also both off by a long shot	10:56
Kr4t05	Yeah, we came to that conclusion in -offtopic	10:56
uniq	kulover: what does it say just before it says OK ? Checking local filesystems or something?	10:56
furgu	driz ^	10:56
KuLover	Uniq Yes	10:56
driz	furgu it works	10:56
driz	pandora.com	10:57
driz	THANKS!!!	10:57
furgu	driz np	10:57
driz	oh would shockwave work also	10:57
uniq	kulover: checking all filesystems ?	10:57
rjb	hi, anyone using the nvidia video driver & seeing outrageous memory usage like me?	10:57
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KuLover	Uniq Yeah! Thats it!	10:57
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kosh	rjb: memory usage is not real most likely	10:58
rjb	oh yes it is	10:58
kosh	rjb: the nvidia driver maps the same memory many times on the card	10:58
kosh	rjb: how do you know the memory usage is real?	10:58
rjb	i got my kde panel & firefox killed by the oom killer	10:58
zorglu1	good criteria :)	10:58
rjb	on various ocassions	10:58
kosh	that seems bizaar	10:58
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kosh	are you using something like xgl? how much main memory do you have?	10:59
rjb	xserver's virt. size grows up to over 2 gigs	10:59
rjb	i got 1 GB ram + 3 GB swap	10:59
kosh	rjb: if you change to the free nvidia 2d only driver does the problem go away?	10:59
Healot	i think ubuntu think it's an ext2/3, so the disk check fails... KuLover >> Already note this to you	10:59
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rjb	kosh: right on	10:59
Kr4t05	kosh, XGL, TwinView, and I have 1gb	10:59
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kosh	rjb: okay can you disable xgl and go use the free driver and see what happens? if that is okay could you use the proprietary driver without xgl and see what happens? also what verison of the driver are you using?	11:00
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rjb	& no i wasn't using any extraordinary video features	11:00
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rjb	just standard installed stuff	11:00
kosh	they released a new driver yesterday it looks like	11:01
rjb	the driver was current out of kubuntu's repo	11:01
AlexTeleCentro	What the command what i use to restart my X?!?!?!?	11:01
rjb	i junked it yesterday ;)	11:01
kosh	oh wait that was just for 64bit that had a driver update yesterday	11:01
rjb	well i'm on amd64 indeed	11:01
Healot	while in desktop = Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, AlexTeleCentro	11:02
rjb	should have mentioned that	11:02
Healot	while in the black only screen "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart"	11:02
AlexTeleCentro	Healot: my X service, in gnome i use /etc/initd/gdm restart	11:02
Healot	if you're using Kubuntu...	11:03
kosh	rjb: so can you try running with the free software driver and see if the same problem occurs? also you might want to consider downloading http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8762.html	11:03
rjb	well in fact i did enable composite & tried shadows & translucency as configured in kde's options	11:03
Healot	"sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" then	11:03
rjb	but it was too slow & hogged the cpu	11:03
kosh	http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72488 there is the information on that driver	11:03
AlexTeleCentro	Healot: i use now Kubuntu	11:03
Healot	"sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" then	11:03
kosh	rjb: so are you using xgl?	11:03
rjb	kosh: the nv driver gives no suchproblems	11:03
rjb	nope, no xgl	11:04
rjb	just the composite extention	11:04
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rjb	plain old xorg xserver	11:04
BKaj	anyone install google earth linux ? It's supposed to work but it won't laucnch due to 2 missing lib files , libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 and libXcursor.so.1 . Thses files aren't in any repositories that i can find in Adept or Synaptic ...any clues where they might be ?	11:04
uniq	kulover: i don't find anything usefull.. it basically checks whether is is needed to fsck the disks.	11:04
furgu	BKaj, use apt-file	11:04
rjb	kosh: thanks for the link, i'll check it out	11:05
furgu	BKaj, do you know how to use the CLI for apt/	11:05
furgu	?	11:05
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h3sp4wn	rjb: libxcursor1 package	11:06
furgu	libxcursor1, libgtk2.0-0	11:06
furgu	BKaj ^	11:06
kosh	you might want to turn off composite also, update the driver and see if there is anything on that link that will help	11:06
kosh	ie just try and cut variables out	11:07
rjb	kosh: thx, i'll give it another spin in a few days	11:07
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rjb	kosh: in fact i mainly wanted nvidia in order to make composite work better	11:08
rjb	otherwise nv works just fine	11:08
rjb	i don't play 3d games	11:08
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BKaj	furgu: I don't have it	11:09
BKaj	CLI ?	11:10
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furgu	BKaj, you can install apt-file, it is a package	11:10
furgu	BKaj, but the packages you need for your app are libxcursor1 and libgtk2.0-0	11:10
BKaj	lemme check , I think I install apt already	11:10
TheHighChild	Does anyone know if a current Konqueor session can be given root permissions?	11:10
furgu	BKaj, apt-file is a seperate package	11:10
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furgu	it is a helpful tool	11:11
furgu	BKaj, CLI = Command Line Interface, a shell, terminal, prompt, etc	11:11
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BKaj	yup furgu, apt is installed	11:11
furgu	arg, bad BKaj	11:12
BKaj	I can do some stuff in the console	11:12
furgu	BKaj, just install libxcursor1 and libgtk2.0-0	11:12
BKaj	I tried to but it can't find the pkg	11:13
BKaj	sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:13
gatekeeper	TheHighChild: Select Run Command... and try kdesu Konqueor	11:13
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BKaj	furgu: ?	11:14
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furgu	BKaj, they are there... which program are you using?	11:14
BKaj	I wondering whwere the pkgs are ?	11:14
uniq	nite.	11:14
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TheHighChild	gatekeeper: Will that give root permissions to the currently running session?	11:15
BKaj	where	11:15
furgu	BKaj, sorry... try 'sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0'	11:15
furgu	no ./	11:15
cbo	please i need some hint on how to set up hostname on boot up, like install script does, to use the same hd image on several computers	11:15
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gatekeeper	TheHighChild: it should bring up an instance of Konqueor with root permissions	11:16
rjb	cbo: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts	11:16
TheHighChild	gatekeeper: Ok. That's what I thought. I am trying to give a current session root. Not a big deal, just curious if it could be done. Thanks for your help.	11:16
BKaj	furgu:	11:16
BKaj	sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:16
BKaj	E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)	11:16
furgu	BKaj, close whatever graphical program you have open for package management	11:17
gatekeeper	TheHighChild: why? what are you trying to do?	11:17
TheHighChild	gatekeeper: Just trying to figure out what I can and cannot do. Nothing that I can't work around.	11:17
cbo	rjb: thanks, but i think /etc/hostname is to put hostname 'by hand' i need the computer to 'query' for its hostname, just when you install for the 1st time	11:18
gatekeeper	TheHighChild: OK just be carefull if you Konqueor root permissions	11:18
BKaj	furgu: no luck , couldn't find pkg	11:18
furgu	cut & paste the error please	11:19
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BKaj	sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:19
BKaj	Reading package lists... Done	11:19
BKaj	Building dependency tree... Done	11:19
BKaj	E: Couldn't find package	11:19
TheHighChild	gatekeeper: I guess it would have been more appropriate to ask if I can give root permission to a currently running process or if it has to be initiated as such.	11:19
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TheHighChild	BKaj: remove the ./	11:19
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furgu	BKaj... BAD BKAJ...	11:19
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rjb	cbo: you mean dhcp?	11:20
BKaj	sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:20
BKaj	Reading package lists... Done	11:20
BKaj	Building dependency tree... Done	11:20
BKaj	E: Couldn't find package	11:20
furgu	BKaj... I dont want to stab my eye with this pen... Really I dont	11:20
BKaj	oops	11:20
BKaj	sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:21
BKaj	Reading package lists... Done	11:21
BKaj	Building dependency tree... Done	11:21
BKaj	E: Couldn't find package libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0	11:21
furgu	What version of ubuntu are you running BKaj?	11:21
BKaj	6.06 AMD64	11:21
gatekeeper	TheHighChild: can't say I know how you would do that, not even sure it would be desirable from a security point of view, would give a hacker/cracker a point of vunrability to go after	11:21
furgu	'doh	11:21
furgu	BKaj.. sorry man	11:22
furgu	sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0	11:22
furgu	that should work	11:22
cbo	rjb: when i install kubuntu in a computer, and i'm asked for a hostname, its full-name is offered to me as default. Previously i have configured the MAC for this machine in a dhcp server, who gives it a valid ip and name. But i plan to use the same hd image in several computers, so i need a way to establish the name during boot for each one.	11:22
furgu	and then	11:22
BKaj	furgu: I found some lib files for 64 bit but thy were mandriva and fedora core	11:22
furgu	sudo apt-get install libxcursor1	11:23
furgu	BKaj, I gave you the wrong package name... my bad	11:23
furgu	BKaj, try that ^^^	11:23
TheHighChild	cbo: You can set the hostname in /etc/hosts	11:23
BKaj	Reading package lists... Done	11:24
BKaj	Building dependency tree... Done	11:24
BKaj	libxcursor1 is already the newest version.	11:24
BKaj	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	11:24
gatekeeper	cbo: there is a CLI command which will change the name for that session	11:25
furgu	How about the other one? 'sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0'	11:25
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rjb	cbo: i think i'd tweak it manually	11:25
BKaj	furgu: same msg	11:26
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cbo	i was hoping there was a daemon to do that.....	11:26
gatekeeper	cbo: If man:hostname it will give you the info you need	11:26
furgu	BKaj, copy and paste the exact error when you run google earth	11:26
BKaj	maybe google earth won't run on 64s	11:26
BKaj	lemme check	11:26
TheHighChild	BKaj: I didn't have trouble	11:27
furgu	Shouldnt matter	11:27
TheHighChild	try "linux32 ./GoogleEarth"	11:27
cbo	gatekeeper: i need a system which 'asks' for its hostname every boot....	11:27
rjb	cbo: my guess is one could write a custom boot script to set the hostname based on dhcp	11:27
rjb	but i don't know how to get that info from the dhclient	11:28
trappist	BKaj: I run mine in a 32bit chroot	11:28
cbo	rjb: i think it has to be an standard way to do it	11:28
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rjb	cbo: not that i know	11:29
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cbo	rjb: nor do i :-). thanks anyway for your comments	11:29
rjb	i haven't seen it done that way, other than by installers	11:29
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cbo	rjb: yes instalers do it, i will have to 'dissect' it or post a question somewhere....	11:30
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rjb	cbo: actually the sequence should be like: set a temp hostname, ifconfig with dhcp, rev dns query your own address, set hostname based on what you got	11:31
BKaj	furgu:	11:31
BKaj	nstalling desktop menu entries...	11:31
BKaj	./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	11:31
gatekeeper	cbo: sounds like you want a little c++ program to run at boot up?	11:32
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rjb	gatekeeper" ???	11:32
cbo	rjb: i'll do it until i find the standard way of doing it, thanks for your suggestion	11:32
furgu	BKaj, dunno I am stumped... try the above suggestions... could set LD_LIBRARY_PATH but that prob wont help	11:32
rjb	wtf does that have to do w/c++ ?	11:32
cbo	gatekeeper: sorry don't understand... why c++?	11:32
rjb	it's like 5 lines of shell script	11:33
cbo	rjb: i agree	11:34
BKaj	yeah furgu, no prob ...Thx , i appreciate the efforts just the same :)...no one said Linux was easy :)	11:34
gatekeeper	cbo: if you can get a bash script to ask the user fine, haven't done much bash scripting myself, main come a c++ programing background so was thinking a simple dialog program to ask the question and do the necessary, probable many ways to do it :-)	11:35
trappist	BKaj: apt-get install libxcursor1	11:35
furgu	trappist, we tried that	11:35
trappist	oh	11:35
furgu	thanks for playing tho	11:35
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trappist	well I mentioned I run it from a 32bit chroot on mine	11:35
rjb	gatekeeper: what do you want to ask the user?	11:35
patch	hello all	11:36
furgu	yeah BKaj, try these other guy's ideas	11:36
patch	could anyone please help me out with a few grub questions	11:36
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gatekeeper	rjb: cbo wanted to ask the user the hostname on boot up	11:36
BKaj	I have google earth on the NTFS partition (windoes) so it's no biggie , just be more convenient on both is all	11:36
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rjb	gatekeeper: no, afaics he wanted to query dhcp for the hostname	11:37
cbo	gatekeeper: i see... well in this case its preferable a console program which silently does it, c++ not the best choice i think, better bash or python	11:37
BKaj	running root as 32 is a little beyond my understanding	11:37
patch	i just want to have a dual boot, but im reinstalling windows and my current grub in on the mbr. so i want to move to a /boot partition	11:37
gatekeeper	cbo: I misunderstood, thought you wanted user interaction, sorry :-)	11:38
BKaj	it won't let me become root anyway for some reason	11:38
rjb	while on dhcp.. why might a dhcp server sometimes take a loooong time to respond?	11:38
patch	but i cant find any plain documentation on how to do this change from mbr to /boot	11:38
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cbo	gatekeeper: any suggestion is wellcome :-)	11:38
trappist	BKaj: there's a 32bit chroot howto on the wiki. I use it for mplayer, firefox, etc. because a lot of proprietary apps aren't available in 64 bit. the chroot's very nice to have around, and worth the effort, if you're running 64bit.	11:39
gatekeeper	cbo: if you want it done silently a bash program would probable be best as you say	11:39
BKaj	patch: try GAG as an Mbr if you're trying to rescue your windows parition.... it installs on the first portion of the HDD and fins all the OSs and partitions then you have to assign them a boot # ...works well after dumpimg linux distros that strip the mbr	11:40
cbo	gatekeeper: anyway, i'm sure there has to be a standard way of doing this, as it seems a very common problem...	11:40
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BKaj	thx trappist, what is chroot , anyway ?	11:41
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furgu	cbo: what is your exact problem again?	11:41
furgu	cbo: prompt the user for the hostname?	11:41
trappist	BKaj: it's a fake filesystem where in this case you'll be filling it with 32bit libs	11:42
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furgu	change hostname from DHCP?	11:42
rjb	furgu: the latter (or cbo will correct me ;-)	11:43
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cbo	furgu: i plan to use the same hd image in several computers, i just want every pc to ask for its name at boot	11:43
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furgu	to ask via user prompt or ask via dhcp?	11:43
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BKaj	ok trappist, Im looking	11:43
furgu	^ cbo	11:44
cbo	furgu: i know it can be done since install script shows me the fully qualified domain name as default when asking for 'hostname'	11:44
furgu	cbo: if you dont change the hostname in install does it use the DHCP given hostname for prompts?	11:45
rjb	cbo: it's pretty clear it can be done, the question's whether there's a package or config option that implements it	11:45
cbo	furgu: yes	11:45
patch	thanks about GAG but its not really what i want	11:45
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furgu	cbo: so basically you want to chop off the first part of the fully qualified name to use in prompts instead?	11:46
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patch	my real problem is that when i reinstall xp it will 'fix' my mbr and i wont be ablw to boot into kubuntu	11:46
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patch	i know that will at /boot grub this is easier to fix	11:46
patch	but i cant figure out how to change	11:47
cbo	furgu: not exactly, it's ok to set hostname to its fqdn but each pc has to have a different name	11:47
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rjb	cbo: look at `man dhclient-script'	11:48
cbo	rjb: ok	11:48
deemo	hey everyone, im having a slight problem getting my kubuntu installation working. when i try to resize my ntfs partition, it says "Opening /dev/hda1 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported." whats going on?	11:48
gatekeeper	cbo: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DHCP_Server_for_automatic_IP_addresses_assignment How to install DHCP Server for automatic IP addresses assignment any help?	11:48
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rjb	cbo: specifically, search fo HOOKS (upper case)	11:49
cbo	rjb, gatekeeper: ok	11:49
rjb	like, type /HOOKS in the manpage viewer	11:49
rjb	i believe that's what you're looking for	11:50
rjb	it only mentions rewriting /etc/resolv.conf when the interface goes up	11:50
rjb	but it could probably be customized to set the hostname as well	11:51
kub	hi	11:51
kub	good night	11:51
cbo	hi	11:51
kub	I have a wireless keyboard and I cannot use the GRUB boot menu... could I turn on the mouse, for example? any idea?	11:52
deemo	amnyone know whats wrong?	11:52
gatekeeper	that was what I was thinking	11:52
cbo	kub: bios settings?	11:52
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kub	cbo: what do you mean?	11:53
cbo	kub: look in the bios settings for usb keyboard support	11:53
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cbo	kub: does your keyboard work to enter the bios config?	11:53
kub	cbo: ok, but it's an old Pentium III... I'm not sure if that option exists	11:54
gatekeeper	deemo: what are you using to resize?	11:54
kub	cbo: no, it doesn't	11:54
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deemo	gatekeeper, qtparted	11:54
kub	cbo: that's the problem, i can't use the keyboard until the SO is running	11:54
kub	*OS	11:54
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rjb	ok lemme try another question	11:55
rjb	gmail vs. konqueror, what's your experience?	11:55
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cbo	kub: i had a similar problem, please tell me if you can 'enter bios' with your keyboard, before grub menu appears	11:56
kub	cbo: no, I can't	11:56
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Raven301	How do you set a folder up in your home dir to be shared?	11:56
h3sp4wn	I just use shfs	11:57
TheHighChild	Raven301: Shared how?	11:57
cbo	rjb, gatekeeper, furgu: i think hostname problem is solved with dhclient.conf, not sure yet. thanks for your help	11:57
TheHighChild	Raven301: Over the network or to other system users?	11:57
cbo	kub: do you have an standard keyboard?	11:57
h3sp4wn	!shfs	11:57
ubotu	I know nothing about shfs	11:57
kub	cbo: yes, an usb one	11:57
rjb	kub: seems you're out of luck, if you can't enter bios setup you won't be able to talk to grub	11:57
Raven301	TheHighChild: Over home network with linux and window machines	11:58
cbo	kub: your usb wired keyboard works and usb wireless does not?	11:58
TheHighChild	Raven301: You'll want to use Samba	11:58
TheHighChild	!tell Raven301 about samba	11:58
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Raven301	thanks TheHighChild ... I'll give that a read	11:58
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kub	rjb: yep, that's because my USB ports are disabled when the PC is booting	11:58
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cbo	kub: i think any pIII should support usb keyboards	11:59
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[BU] Brizz	doe anyone know how I can switch to the 686 kernel for my Pentium D?	12:00
TheHighChild	Raven301: There are different methods you can use to share a directory, file, or partition. You aren't limited to Samba, although that is very popular. Myself, I just mount a FAT32 partition and use it on both systems	12:00
gatekeeper	cbo: good luck :-)	12:01
Raven301	TheHighChild: ok thanks ... How do I share a folder with my two linux systems?	12:01
TheHighChild	[BU] Brizz: apt-get install linux-686	12:01
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kub	cbo: ok, I'll look BIOS settings for usb keyboard support	12:02
kub	thank you	12:02
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[BU] Brizz	TheHighChild: the 686 will work for the dual cores but still be x86, right?	12:02
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TheHighChild	Raven301: Setting up a samba share will allow you to share files and folders.	12:02
cbo	gatekeeper: tomorrow i will work more on that, should i find how to solve the problem 'the right way' (tm) i will tell you...	12:02
TheHighChild	[BU] Brizz: No idea man.	12:02
[BU] Brizz	TheHighChild: heh k, no problem :)	12:03
ScottLand2	hey guys im running on LIveCD now and im at the install step 5of6 and im having some problems	12:03
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TheHighChild	hey ScottLand2	12:03
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ScottLand2	HAHA	12:03
ScottLand2	hey!	12:03
ScottLand2	dood i need your help	12:03
cbo	kub: maybe you'll have to disable usbmouse support and/or usb thumbdrive support, not sure. I had problem with some combinations, others worked ok	12:03
rjb	cbo: good luck	12:03
ScottLand2	i had to reformat	12:03
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TheHighChild	WTF did you do ScottLand2?	12:04
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ScottLand2	because I had to install XP	12:04
Raven301	TheHighChild: ok ... I have been able in the past to right click the folder and set it up to share and the folder then has a plug icon on top of the folder. It's not letting me do this	12:04
cbo	rjb: thanks, tomorrow i will work more on that, should i find how to solve the problem 'the right way' (tm) i will tell you...	12:04
gatekeeper	cbo: look forward to hearing from you again. got to go now, like I said good luck I am sure you will sort it :-)	12:04
ScottLand2	and it wouldnt let me do both and i tried to use Super Grub disk or whatever and it said it cant help me	12:04
ghost	anybody here?	12:04
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DaSkreech	ghost: Nope	12:04
ghost	i see many people	12:04
TheHighChild	Raven301: Honestly bud. I was just trying to point you in the right direction. I don't have any actual experience with setting up Samba shares.	12:04
cbo	gatekeeper, rjb, furgu: thank you all, may be next time i will appear as 'zx81'	12:04
ghost	i started this app first time	12:05
cbo	see you in armagetron 'TIGERS NETWORK CLASSIC PLAY'	12:05
rjb	again, any idea why my linksys wifi box might take several minutes and dozens of attempts before it responds to a dhcp request?	12:05
Raven301	TheHighChild: Big thanks ... the read me you set will help	12:05
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rjb	but only sometimes?	12:05
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cbo	rjb: does it depend on the mac address of the requester?	12:06
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rjb	doesn't seem to	12:06
rjb	using the same laptop, it usually responds instantly but every once in a while seems to be seriously stuck for some reason	12:07

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