[12:07] <franz> anyone has an idea what to do when installation is stuck at 94% of hardware configuration since 15 mins?
[12:07] <|lostbyte|> Skizzo21, kdesu is a utility to open kate in root.
[12:07] <Skizzo21> and i edited that one file
[12:07] <robotgeek> Tommy2k4: sorry, no idea what causes that. not my area of expertise
[12:07] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: that a bit of an insult to kate :-)
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> franz, did you check your cd with md5sum ?
[12:08] <Tommy2k4> whats the console command to find out monitors vert/horiz refresh rate
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> gatekeeper, Made it simple to him.. i know :P
[12:08] <robotgeek> Tommy2k4: maybe xdpyinfo, not sure. dont have access to machine right now
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, Cant !
[12:08] <franz> yes indeed! |lostbyte| i'm new to kubuntu but not to linux.  not an expert though
[12:08] <Tommy2k4> |lostbyte|, im pretty certain ive did it before
[12:09] <Skizzo21> wow my wireless card worked right away :-)!!!!!
[12:09] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: just pulling your leg :-)
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> :)
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, did what ?
[12:09] <Tommy2k4> found out vert/horiz refresh rates from console
[12:10] <Skizzo21> aight now i have a really really hard question...... my display seems kinda ... blehhhh ... this is an old laptop and it jus seems like the refresh rate is kinda crappy... any suggestions?
[12:10] <franz> |lostbyte|, kubutu works fine from cd.  installation is faulty
[12:10] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: It's good in here, I can help folks where I can and learn at the same time :-)
[12:11] <Tommy2k4> robotgeek, thats not it :(
[12:11] <jeff_> jlosbyte--can you tell me how tp make the login screen show all the User
[12:11] <mta`chrono> Hello. Sorry, I've a problem. And the problem is that I don't know where is the problem.... KDE is able to play sounds, but certain musik players like amaroK and XMMS can't play anything..... :S
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> jeff_, i think i did it before by changing the login interface throught kcontrol..
[12:12] <negocio> CAN ANYONE HELP ME MAKING DOS WORK WITH QEMU?
[12:12] <svivian> franz: Have you tried doing the install from the text installer instead of the desktop? When I did that, I got a cleaner install
[12:12] <gatekeeper> franz: I had exactly the same problem with a dodgy maxtor HDD, swapped it for a seagate, installed like a dream
[12:12] <robotgeek> negocio: caps is rude
[12:12] <negocio> ok
[12:12] <negocio> sorry
[12:12] <negocio> can anyone help me with DOS in qemu
[12:13] <robotgeek> negocio: have you looked at the qemu wiki article?
[12:13] <|lostbyte|> negocio, CAPS pls. Try #qemu
[12:13] <negocio> i need to run foxpro for DOS
[12:13] <svivian> mta`chrono: Try turning off the KDE sound. Sometimes it prevents the media players from running
[12:13] <robotgeek> uggh!
[12:13] <robotgeek> anyways, have fun!
[12:13] <mta`chrono> okay...
[12:13] <franz> svivian, thanks for suggestion. I always suspected that programmers have something against graphics environments and write better code for console....
[12:15] <negocio> im looking in the wiki
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> gatekeeper, I hate to learn alone too.. thats why i read irc's :)
[12:15] <negocio> but it seems to i have to install dos from a cd or floppy first
[12:15] <negocio> but there is a fuction to emulate a fat disk froma a directory
[12:15] <negocio> thats great
[12:15] <negocio> speccially if i have no way to copy content to the image file
[12:16] <franz> gatekeeper, can't buy a new hdd.... lack of money you know...
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> negocio, <dignome> is trying to help you.. tell him..
[12:17] <gatekeeper> franz: try badblocks on it to make sure it is alright. the other installer svivian told you about might help
[12:18] <Skizzo21> does anyone know why my display seems kinda of crappy... like there are lines and jus kinda blurry when i move an icon or what not
[12:18] <gatekeeper> franz: good luck, got to go now
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> gatekeeper, tc :)
[12:18] <TheHighChild> Anyone running an IBM Thinkpad?
[12:18] <ZomMes> ok, how do I share a certain directory with Samba/Smb4K?
[12:19] <Skizzo21> i M
[12:19] <Skizzo21> I AM*
[12:19] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: Any idea why I would stop having sound after enabling the suspend to ram?
[12:19] <|lostbyte|> ZomMes, kcontrol > internet & network
[12:20] <jeff_> jlostbyte--can you tell me where in control
[12:20] <Skizzo21> haha sorry i have been running linux for about 6 mins now
[12:20] <jeff_> your doing good
[12:20] <LiteHedded> how do I kill everything related to kde?
[12:20] <LiteHedded> there's lots of k* processes I don't want running
[12:20] <|lostbyte|> jeff_, control ?
[12:21] <jeff_> Kcontrol
[12:21] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: lol, no man
[12:21] <jeff_> for login scren
[12:21] <Dsa411> hey i am trying to install wine using wines instructions but i am gettin a 404 error any one know of an alternative method?
[12:21] <TheHighChild> jeff 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop"
[12:22] <jeff_> to add user to login screen?
[12:22] <Skizzo21> anyone know why my display is crappy ????
[12:22] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: Probably need video driers
[12:22] <TheHighChild> drivers*
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> Skizzo21, Screenshot pls ?
[12:22] <jeff_> skizzo-- make sure you have right drivers
[12:23] <Skizzo21> how do i update them or what not?
[12:23] <svivian> Skizzo21: Do you have a graphics card, and what driver are you using for it. Also, if you have an LCD, you may not be running it at the optimal resolution (most run best at 1280x1024)
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> Dsa411, apt-get install wine after adding the repos.
[12:23] <Skizzo21> this is a really old thinkpad 600x
[12:23] <LiteHedded> the kdm process has stopped but there are lots of processes still running
[12:23] <LiteHedded> that start with k
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> LiteHedded, like ?
[12:24] <LiteHedded> ksoftirqd
[12:24] <LiteHedded> kblockd
[12:24] <Dsa411> lostbyte i try that and i get a "/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found"
[12:24] <LiteHedded> khelper
[12:24] <jeff_> thehighchild--will that add user to login screen?
[12:24] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: What video card does it have?
[12:24] <LiteHedded> kjournald
[12:24] <LiteHedded> etc
[12:24] <Skizzo21> uhhhh
[12:24] <Skizzo21> lol
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> Dsa411, Did you add the repos ?
[12:24] <Skizzo21> linux detected one for it
[12:25] <TheHighChild> jeff_: Not sure what you mean by that. Can you explain?
[12:25] <Dsa411> yea in the package manager
[12:25] <jeff_> i want to see a list of user on the login screen---like I dare say XP
[12:25] <Skizzo21> hey guys whats the eqivelent to an EXE on linux?
[12:25] <jeff_> have little girl user
[12:26] <LiteHedded> no way to kill it?
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> i think u just made me realise something
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> oops
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> but
[12:26] <jeff_> skizzo there isnt one
[12:26] <gil> i need some help with my screensavers
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> i just did a command to enable the swap cos a thread on ubuntuforums said that could stop the crashing
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> jeff_, kcontrol > system administration > login manager
[12:26] <Tommy2k4> and since i did that xmms wont play sound anymore
[12:27] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: There is no executables that do everything. '.deb' packages do come close though.
[12:27] <gil> can someone tell me why they only appear on 1/3 of the screen
[12:27] <Skizzo21> weirddddddddddddd
[12:27] <jeff_> must be missing someyhing I have been ther, but thks
[12:27] <Skizzo21> if i downloaded this program that was *.tar.gz and i extracted it all and it gave me   (2)   *.pl files how would i use what the guy wrote
[12:27] <jeff_> skizzo21--no file ext
[12:27] <Skizzo21> (3)**
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> gil, what screensaver, kde's ?
[12:27] <gil> yes
[12:28] <jeff_> thanks guys it's been fun but time to eat dinner.
[12:28] <TheHighChild> Is that python Skizzo21?
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> gil, gl ones ?
[12:28] <gil> i know i h screensavers only run on part of the screens
[12:28] <Skizzo21> highchild... friendly reminder 15 mins now running linux for first time :-(
[12:28] <Skizzo21> i have no idea what im doing
[12:28] <Skizzo21> lol
[12:28] <gil> sorry yes....GL
[12:29] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: What app are you trying to run?
[12:29] <jeff_> skizzo21---you arent a linux user until you kill your install several times
[12:29] <Skizzo21> lol
[12:29] <Skizzo21> its a wep security program
[12:29] <jeff_> im still on the way, trying to kill this one
[12:30] <jeff_> bye
[12:30] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: Can you give me the name? I want to google it and see if I can help you more after reading the readme
[12:30] <Skizzo21> sure do you mind if I pm you sir?
[12:30] <gil> lostbyte: i know my GL works...i cant figure out whats wrong with these screensavers
[12:30] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: not at all
[12:31] <Skizzo21> poop im unregistered
[12:31] <franz> which program can i use from kubuntu live to test a hdd for bad blocks ?
[12:31] <Skizzo21> let me register real quick
[12:31] <Skizzo21> or could u PM me?
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> gil, Its hard to tell..
[12:32] <TheHighChild> franz: You can use the fsck command to check for disk errors.
[12:32] <Skizzo21> lol highchild let me figure out how to register
[12:32] <ScottLand> aight
[12:32] <ScottLand> hold on
[12:32] <TheHighChild> Skizzo21: Ok man, I will brb in about 5 though. Feel free to have your way with my PM until then
[12:32] <ScottLand> lol i will
[12:33] <franz> TheHighChild, from a console using kubuntu live?
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> franz, that would be safe.
[12:35] <whizz-> might not be the right channel to ask this in, but does anybody know a site ripper for kde?
[12:36] <gil> you know what would be so super....if i can get this freaking toshiba to go into suspend mode...
[12:36] <gil> anyone?
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> whizz-, wget.
[12:36] <gil> i have been at that for about 2 months now
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> whizz: wget --mirror
[12:36] <franz> ok thanks |lostbyte| . btw now grub is not working and I can't even access the old win98 i have on another disk
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> gil, i belive on laptop comaptuble sites they have walkthrought for these stuff.
[12:37] <whizz-> thx |lostbyte| and h3sp4wn
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> franz, ubuntu's wiki explains how to get back the grub.. with the cd.
[12:37] <gil> can you tell me what you speak of ?
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> just search for grub there..
[12:38] <franz> Another question: from kubuntu live, how can I access my hdds?  I can see them but when I try to mount them it says they are not in fstab or mtab.....
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> gil, which model ?
[12:39] <gil> toshiba m40x
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> franz, "when I try to mount them" HOW ?
[12:39] <macd> If kinfocenter shows a usb network adapter, is there any reason that ifconfig/iwconfig would not show it?
[12:40] <Hawkwind> Anyone know of a source for Kubuntu to get audacious ?  Seems I've got multi/universe and many others but none seem to have audacious
[12:40] <franz> can' remember the name of the utility |lostbyte|.... it's on the tray of kubuntu live
[12:40] <|lostbyte|> macd, yes ! because one shows the info of the hardware and one showes you that its up and working.
[12:40] <franz> can't
[12:41] <macd> ahh, so I should be installing drivers or the appropriate kernel module to support the chipset.
[12:41] <franz> sorry but the computer with the problems is in another room.... not running kubuntu on this one i'm using now
[12:42] <|lostbyte|> franz, didt use live.. but like every live cd. it makes those links in fstab already..
[12:42] <|lostbyte|> macd, yes.
[12:43] <ScottLand> Does kubuntu run off a registery... or can i just copy all these files to another harddrive on the same computer and be fine???
[12:43] <macd> gotcha prism2, wlan-ng ? and can you still pull firmware with wlan-ng ?
[12:43] <|lostbyte|> ScottLand, good one.. i think yes it would be fine.. and do change the grub settings..
[12:44] <franz> |lostbyte|, the utility i'm talking about is something like "storage media" if i can remeber well
[12:45] <franz> it shows my two disks.
[12:45] <franz> but if i try to mount them from there it says they are not in fstab
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> franz, huh ! looks like it simply detects the new drives..
[12:46] <franz> well, what should i do to use them?
[12:47] <|lostbyte|> franz, Have you checked /media/ to see if they are'nt mounted already.. ?
[12:47] <franz> they are not mentioned in /media |lostbyte|
[12:48] <|lostbyte|> franz, then i guess, add them to fstab or do a direct mount from commandline.
[12:49] <franz> will go to try |lostbyte|
[12:49] <|lostbyte|> ok..
[12:50] <spik> Can some one explain this whole respitory thing to me?
[12:50] <spik> I do not understand it at all
[12:50] <spik> for example when I type -> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[12:50] <spik> why do I have to put dapper and main there?
[12:51] <Blissex> spik: thats not right....
[12:51] <spik> if I put something else will it work?
[12:51] <DaSkreech> spik: Dapper says which version of the Distro you are using
[12:51] <Blissex> spik: what are you trying to get explained?
[12:51] <spik> uhh
[12:51] <DaSkreech> main is the classification of the programs that you will have access to
[12:51] <spik> why I have to put dapper and main at the end
[12:51] <spik> will it work if I put something else?
[12:51] <DaSkreech> Well that depends
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> spik, its an info file not a command. so its listed in order for apt-get to understand and update.
[12:52] <DaSkreech> on if you are using something else :)
[12:52] <DaSkreech> spik: If you are using edgy then you would replace dapper with edgy
[12:52] <Hawkwind> Also, can someone tell me if there is a skip.list file of some sort that I can add app names to so that when I do an apt-get upgrade they do NOT get updated ?
[12:52] <LjL> spik: there are four repositories for dapper. "dapper", which is the primary one; "dapper-updates", which contains bugfixes; "dapper-security", which contains security patches; "dapper-backports", which contains packaged ported back from the next (experimental) version.  Each of these has four parts: "main" (main packages), "restricted" (prioprietary drivers, mostly), "universe" (packages mantained by the community), "multiverse" (packages that 
[12:52] <LjL> s)
[12:52] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: You can hold them in aptitude AFAIK
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> spik, No ! each colume has a meaning.. dont mix or change them unless you know ..
[12:52] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Isn't aptitude GUI ?
[12:53] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: Nope
[12:53] <spik> ok, I think I'm getting it
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, Hai ! I didt know you were here.. lolz
[12:53] <LjL> Hawkwind: no, it's got a text-mode user interface though
[12:53] <Blissex> spik:  the paths in the 'deb' line are constructed in two different ways, but the principle is the same.
[12:53] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Ummm, how would I do it with aptitude ?  I'm new to Ubuntu and come from Mandriva and we had /etc/urpmi/skip.list file to add them to
[12:53] <cps1966> i know you can in synaptic
[12:53] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Hey there.  Yeah I've left Mandriva permanently :P
[12:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: man aptitude and then do a search for hold
[12:54] <Raito> So I have a widescreen laptop. When playing full screen games the thing is stretched causing it to look extreemly bad. How would I make full screen be in an exact 800 x 600 aspect ratio? So that there would be void on the sides of the screen?
[12:54] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, Thats nice.. Glade your here..
[12:54] <Frederick> folks anyone else feeling eclipse is DAMM slow under kubuntu?
[12:54] <min> hey
[12:54] <min> I have a question
[12:54] <Blissex> spik: one type of path is for Debian-release-style repositories, the other is for simple-directory repositories.
[12:54] <min> is there a special way to reboot kubuntu?
[12:55] <DaSkreech> Logout?
[12:55] <LjL> min: "Log out" and then "Reboot"?
[12:55] <LjL> "Restart computer", actually
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> min, make a shortcut on your desktop with command kdesu reboot
[12:55] <notand> min: shutdown -r now
[12:55] <LjL> notand: that's not necessarily good advice.
[12:56] <LjL> KDE would usually like to know that it's going to be shut down.
[12:56] <notand> you're right
[12:56] <min> cuz everytiem I reboot
[12:56] <min> everytime I reboot
[12:56] <min> U know the bootscreen?
[12:56] <LjL> yeah...?
[12:57] <min> the blue bar with the black background with kubuntu on the top?
[12:57] <LjL> ... yeah.
[12:57] <min> first it loads
[12:57] <min> then it comes up again
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> bootscreen.. never seen that for a while..
[12:57] <min> then the bootscreen freezes
[12:57] <min> so Im forced to turn off
[12:57] <word> can you mount a partition to a directory that already has contents?
[12:57] <min> and reinstall kubuntu for the 3rd time
[12:57] <|lostbyte|> word, good one.. never tried..
[12:57] <svivian> min: you have a problem with a video driver. When you get that, hit ctrl-f1, log in, get root, and do a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:58] <DaSkreech> word: Yes
[12:58] <min> thanks
[12:58] <DaSkreech> word: Oh wait... no
[12:58] <min> Ill tyr it right away
[12:58] <word> DaSkreech: ...argh false hopes :P
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, :P
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> word, try !
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> word, love to know..
[12:58] <LjL> you're lucky anyway, i don't *get* the splash screen at shutdown
[12:58] <DaSkreech> word: Why on earth would you want to do that?
[12:59] <LjL> well admittedly it does reboot for me, though
[12:59] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, CAnt say ! maybe he is not no earth..
[12:59] <word> I want to have my personal files IE videos music etc. from my homedir on a seperate partition and share them between 2 distros of linux
[12:59] <notand> hm i sometimes get the splash screen at shutdown, seems random
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> word, smb ?
[01:00] <word> ?
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> word, how are you sharing ?
[01:01] <|lostbyte|> word, opps ! miss read..
[01:01] <word> lol same hd :P
[01:01] <|lostbyte|> word, you can ! but why mount to a dir with files..
[01:02] <word> because like say i have the directories videos music text files in my home/word/ dir and I want to have those same files in /home/word on suse but I don't want to share the configuration files between the two distros so I don't want the whol /home/word dir to be shared
[01:03] <min> no
[01:03] <min> not at shut down
[01:03] <min> I get it when I reboot
[01:03] <min> and it freezes
[01:04] <min> well I did what u told me svian
[01:04] <|lostbyte|> word, mount distro1 /home/word to distro2 /home/word/mp3/
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> word, If your mounting home.. then all files will be mounted too..
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> min, it freezes on which line ?
[01:05] <min> no line
[01:06] <BKaj> installed synaptic, but i can't get it to run as root ...how do I accomplish this ?
[01:06] <Tommy2k4> whats the console command to find out what v/h refresh rates my monitor can handle
[01:06] <|lostbyte|> min, OK ! when you shutdown throught power. and restart does it check your hd's for error ?
[01:06] <svivian> min: you went through reconfiguring xserver?
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, cant !
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> im certain ive did it before thogh
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> though*
[01:07] <min> restart
[01:08] <Ertain> I forgot how to unlock my pack database, since Adept froze up.
[01:08] <min> and the bootscreen comes up
[01:08] <min> and the lines finish
[01:08] <min> and then it coems up again
[01:08] <min> the bootscreen
[01:08] <min> and it freezes on the boot screen
[01:09] <Wodger> Bkaj it should ask you for your sudo password when you lauch the package manger
[01:09] <notand> min: you could edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file manually and insert an open graphic driver and than reboot. i had a similar problem due to an broken closed nvidia driver
[01:09] <|lostbyte|> Ertain, dpkg --configure -a
[01:09] <min> how do I do that?
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Opps ! got to go..
[01:10] <|lostbyte|> Night all :)
[01:10] <BKaj> it doesn't ask me , the dialog tells me It's read only
[01:10] <BKaj> Wodger
[01:10] <min> I tried to edit my xorg file
[01:10] <min> but I dont know what to put isnde it
[01:11] <notand> what graphic card have you got?
[01:11] <Ertain> Didn't work.  It says that database is locked by another user.  However, I'm the only user.
[01:11] <min> Ig ot atoi
[01:11] <Wodger> i've found the admin windows to be hit and miss to be honest
[01:11] <min> ati radeo
[01:11] <svivian> min: what ATI card
[01:11] <Wodger> found some times a restart is needed
[01:11] <min> radeon
[01:12] <min> ati radeon its for the laptop
[01:12] <BKaj>  Wodger, the distro didn't come synaptic, some suggested I DL it and install it with Adept
[01:12] <min> its a 32 mb
[01:12] <svivian> min: but which radeon? 9000? 9500?
[01:12] <Wodger> yup same here
[01:12] <svivian> min: how old is the laptoip?
[01:12] <Tommy2k4> |lostbyte|, sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[01:12] <Wodger> i installed synamptic
[01:12] <notand> hm under Section "Device" , try a  Driver          "ati"
[01:13] <min> eh
[01:13] <Wodger> as kubuntu installs adept
[01:13] <min> 1 year old
[01:13] <min> 1.5 years old
[01:13] <BKaj> Wodger: is it listed in the k-menu ?
[01:13] <min> o yea
[01:13] <Wodger> yes
[01:13] <min> Im on two monitors if it helps
[01:13] <BKaj> after install, cuz mine is not
[01:13] <Wodger> mmm
[01:14] <Wodger> i'd be tempted to remove and try again
[01:14] <min> but the other monitor's broken
[01:14] <BKaj> maybe I should just i=uninstall and try again
[01:14] <min> so Im using an external monitor
[01:14] <svivian> min: as notand said, look in the xorg.conf for the Device section, and see what driver it is using. When you went through the xserver reconfig, what driver did it suggest as the default?
[01:14] <BKaj> yeah
[01:14] <notand> gotta go, good luck min.
[01:14] <min> ty
[01:14] <min> thanks
[01:15] <svivian> !ati
[01:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:16] <svivian> min: try that link the ubotu just put up. It should have good info for you on getting that card to work. Unfortunately, I have to go.
[01:16] <min> k
[01:16] <min> bye
[01:16] <min> its a radeon mobility 9000
[01:17] <min> ubotu
[01:17] <min> that site is kinbda down
[01:18] <Tommy2k4> 1024x768 makes my eyes bleed
[01:20] <Tommy2k4> hmm now xmms and amarok wont play at all
[01:20] <Tommy2k4> amarok wont even open
[01:20] <Tommy2k4> and xmms freezes
[01:23] <Tommy2k4> oo maybe its cos its trying to play a network share thats not turned on
[01:23] <Tommy2k4> hopefully
[01:28] <omeow> Tommy2k4: Do you really want to go through all this trouble to get your machine working?
[01:29] <omeow> You've been at it the whole evening.
[01:30] <Tommy2k4> would you rather go back to windows omeow ?
[01:31] <omeow> For certain things I would yeah. But I don't want to start another holywar about that.
[01:32] <Tommy2k4> lol
[01:36] <omeow> Is there a reason why the kubuntu forums are so hidden?
[01:37] <omeow> It takes like 5-6 clicks before I'm finally in the forums.
[01:38] <min> how can I change my screen reso to 1024x768?
[01:38] <min> its locked at 640x480
[01:38] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[01:38] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:38] <Wodger> monters contol pane?
[01:39] <min> command not found
[01:39] <min> Im on kubuntu
[01:39] <min> nvm
[01:39] <min> I got it
[01:44] <min> yea
[01:44] <min> it didnt work
[01:44] <min> Im on two monitors
[01:44] <min> on is broken
[01:44] <min> and the another on eis fine
[01:44] <min> I need to fix the one that works foine to 1024x768
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Have you checked the wiki?
[01:44] <min> yea
[01:45] <min> the resolution wiki page is down
[01:45] <min> can someone help me?
[01:46] <Hawkwind> Can someone tell me why if I try to remove the Ubuntu nvidia packages that it wants to remove linux-386 and linux-686 ??  Aren't those my kernel packages that are installed ?
[01:47] <min> hello?
[01:49] <min> fuck
[01:51] <min> can someone help me?
[01:51] <Hawkwind> min: Watch the language please
[01:51] <min> sorry
[01:51] <Hawkwind> min: Patience man. People have lives and don't just sit and stare at IRC waiting on you to ask a question
[01:52] <min> how would I chaneg my reso?
[01:52] <min> sorry
[01:52] <Hawkwind> Look in systemsettings maybe
[01:53] <min> no
[01:54] <min> its locked at 640x480
[01:54] <min> Ill like to change it to 1024x768
[01:55] <Hawkwind> min: Have you looked at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to see what it's set to there maybe ?
[01:55] <min> I did chack but I have no clue what anything means ;] 
[01:55] <min> Im on two monitors if it helps
[01:57] <whizz-> is there a tool to search through text files?
[01:58] <Hawkwind> grep
[01:58] <Hawkwind> find
[01:58] <Hawkwind> Not sure exactly what you mean by search tool for text files though
[01:59] <whizz-> to search through the content of a batch of text files
[01:59] <Healot> sed, awk, gawk, and perl (no exactly a text processor, but does it)
[02:00] <Hawkwind> find and grep can do it along with what Healot stated
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> grep is the obvious answer
[02:00] <Hawkwind> Can someone tell me why if I try to remove the Ubuntu nvidia packages that it wants to remove linux-386 and linux-686 ??  Aren't those my kernel packages that are installed ?
[02:00] <Healot> Hawkwind: meta package
[02:01] <Healot> will be removed, but the actual kernel packages will not
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Healot: So it's not going to break my system if I remove linux-386 and linux-686 ?
[02:01] <whizz-> thx
[02:01] <[Nirvana] > Hawkwind: no
[02:01] <Healot> yes, if you're not upgrading kernel
[02:01] <[Nirvana] > Hawkwind: but install 686 before you remove 386
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Healot: I want to remove all the Ubuntu nvidia stuff and install the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com instead
[02:01] <OOD> it's the same driver
[02:01] <Hawkwind> [Nirvana] : I have linux-686 installed since I run an SMP/HT system
[02:01] <Healot> sure, you can absolutely do that
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> They are the same ones aren't tey ?
[02:02] <OOD> the one in the repository and the one from the nvidia site is the same
[02:02] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: No idea.  I thought the drivers came out on nvidia.com before Ubuntu packages them
[02:02] <OOD> yea that one comes out first
[02:02] <Hawkwind> So I want the nvidia.com stuff so that I can update or so that when I do an apt-get upgrade my nvidia drivers don't break with an update
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> They will break more if you use the nvidia drivers
[02:03] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Ummm how so ?
[02:03] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: I've used them for years in Mandriva without an issue
[02:04] <Healot> Hawkwind: if you dont know what you're doing
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> Everytime you have a kernel update you have to upgrade the module
[02:04] <Hawkwind> Healot: Well I'm not a n00bie by no means
[02:04] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Right.  That's not a problem
[02:04] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Or an Xorg update for that matter
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> If you use the ubuntu ones then it won't break when linux-restricted-modules is updated
[02:05] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: What about if the kernel gets updated ?
[02:05] <Healot> Hawkwind: I am not saying you're a noob
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> then the restricted modules are updated before the metapackage is changed
[02:05] <Healot> even experienced users f***ked up
[02:05] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: My real question is, if a new kernel gets updated does the linux-restricted-modules come out at the same time for it ?
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> before linux-image-x is updated then yes
[02:06] <Hawkwind> Healot: Heh I know you weren't implying that.  Didn't mean to say it that way
[02:06] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: But linux-image and linux-restricted come out at the same time ?
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> Within half a day usually
[02:06] <Hawkwind> I'm just not familiar with how Ubuntu does stuff quite yet
[02:06] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Ah ok.  Then I'll stick with what I have.  Thanks for the info
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> usually the image goes in first but unless you manually install it then it won't get installed until linux-image-x is updated (which would be when the restricted modules are ready)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> (Only ever affected me once when I wanted a driver that was in a later kernel)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> (but needed it then to do something else)
[02:08] <DaSkreech> Why Cant I Invert Selection in Konqueror?
[02:10] <Healot> DaSkreech: you need to select the menu Select First
[02:10] <DaSkreech> Healot: Huh?
[02:10] <Healot> after entering the wildcard, then you can invert selection
[02:10] <Healot> DaSkreech: just ignore me then :=
[02:11] <DaSkreech> After I select some stuff Shouldn't Ctrl+* invert it?
[02:12] <OOD> hmm, that works fine for me
[02:12] <DaSkreech> Ok it started working again
[02:13] <DaSkreech> X-Treme System Lag perhaps?
[02:13] <OOD> kde's a bit buggy
[02:13] <OOD> so it's probably some random bug somewhere or something
[02:17] <Silenced> hey all I just installed kubuntu desktop how do I remove all this gnome stuff is there a way to get rid of it all in one shot
[02:18] <OOD> i had a bookmark with all the packages that made up gnome, so it was a matter of copy and paste
[02:18] <OOD> but the bookmark is gone
[02:18] <OOD> i'll try to the page if i can
[02:19] <OOD> try to find*
[02:19] <Healot> namely things that started with "G" and libgtk/libglib
[02:19] <Silenced> that would be awesome thanks
[02:20] <OOD> ah found it http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[02:20] <Healot> damn, why not both? be greedy you little :=
[02:20] <OOD> eh?
[02:20] <DaSkreech> Healot: Like gwenview?
[02:21] <Silenced> thanks OOD
[02:21] <d_hollin> hey guys need some help with the repos need the non free ones
[02:21] <OOD> Silenced: No problem :)
[02:22] <bimberi> !repos
[02:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:22] <d_hollin> need list of repos
[02:22] <DaSkreech> !tell d_hollin about repos
[02:22] <Healot> in constrast gwenview isn't for Gnome :=
[02:23] <Healot> should rename it to Kwenview
[02:23] <Healot> Germans
[02:23] <OOD> o.0
[02:25] <Healot> no offence, KDE team are mainly Germans, which is Kool
[02:28] <DaSkreech> kdefreak: Hooray!!!!!!
[02:28] <OOD> lol
[02:29] <DaSkreech> kdefreak: Kome to Klimb the KDE Kabal!!
[02:29] <kdefreak> ;)
[02:32] <byen> hey guys
[02:32] <kdefreak> hi
[02:33] <byen> how can i find edit the startup programs on kde
[02:33] <byen> and how can i disable auto-session saving
[02:34] <Huahua> byen: run kcontrol
[02:34] <Healot> byen: KDE Menu = > System Settings => KDE Component
[02:34] <kdefreak> shoot brb have to switch
[02:34] <Healot> Select "Session Manager"
[02:34] <byen> I dont have kcontrol
[02:36] <byen> ok got kcontrol
[02:37] <byen> how can i disable adpet from loading on startup..? eveytime i get an update.. i have a hard crash
[02:37] <byen> *adept
[02:37] <gnomefreak> i guess im not using kde for a while :(
[02:38] <Huahua> byen:
[02:38] <DaSkreech> Boooooo!!!
[02:38] <OOD> eh? what happened?
[02:38] <gnomefreak> kde is missing something important
[02:38] <OOD> whats that
[02:38] <RadiantFire> gnomefreak: what is it missing?
[02:38] <Huahua> byen: sudo rm  /usr/share/autostart/adept_notifier_auto.desktop
[02:38] <gnomefreak> it dont boot
[02:38] <RadiantFire> lol
[02:38] <RadiantFire> yeah, thats something all right
[02:39] <RadiantFire> why on earth doesn't it?
[02:39] <gnomefreak> its missing kdelibbase and somehting else
[02:39] <byen> Huahua: isnt there a graphical option
[02:39] <RadiantFire> maybe you should try installing that silly!
[02:39] <RadiantFire> byen: why does it hardcrash?
[02:39] <Huahua> byen: I don't know
[02:39] <gnomefreak> thats what i get for running kde  on edgy i guess
[02:39] <RadiantFire> gnomefreak: yeah, they fixed gnome, silly devs prioritizing gnome :-)
[02:39] <byen> RadiantFire: no ideal... adpet just hangs after dloading the updates
[02:39] <gnomefreak> RadiantFire: it was the latest libqt3 updates
[02:39] <OOD> edgy's in production already??
[02:39] <RadiantFire> OOD: noooo!
[02:40] <gnomefreak> OOD: no its broken
[02:40] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:40] <RadiantFire> you personally, thats cool :-)
[02:40] <Healot> damn, developers
[02:40] <gnomefreak> on my system
[02:40] <RadiantFire> once they release an alpha or 2 I might try running edgy on this laptop
[02:40] <gnomefreak> they fixed it right after i did within a day
[02:40] <bonbonthejon> when is edy due to come out
[02:40] <byen> I have 2 major issues with Kubuntu.. everytime i extract a file.. there is a crash... and everytime I have an update... Kubuntu crashes and i have to power off
[02:41] <gnomefreak> bonbonthejon: pct 25
[02:41] <RadiantFire> byen: really...
[02:41] <gnomefreak> oct 25th
[02:41] <byen> RadiantFire: :( yes
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> cool, week before my birthday
[02:41] <byen> I really love kubu bit i am so scared to see updates now
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> is kde4 going to be in edgy
[02:41] <RadiantFire> no
[02:41] <bonbonthejon> hmm :(
[02:41] <gnomefreak> bonbonthejon: not looking like it
[02:42] <RadiantFire> kde4 probably won;t be releaed until early next year
[02:42] <bonbonthejon> true
[02:42] <OOD> hehe vista's gonan get delayed again i bet
[02:42] <RadiantFire> i hope so
[02:42] <bonbonthejon> even when its released it won't work on a lot of pcs
[02:42] <RadiantFire> kde4 is gonna rock, and it comes out before vista that would be a good boost
[02:42] <Healot> 2007 summer will be the earliest
[02:43] <Healot> since Mr. Gates is away for a while
[02:43] <RadiantFire> they claim theys still on track
[02:43] <RawSewage> is he vactationing with Warren
[02:43] <RawSewage> vacationing
[02:44] <Healot> But I am waiting for Vista, hope it is not as expensive as Windows XP retail price
[02:44] <RadiantFire> haha
[02:44] <RadiantFire> yes it will be
[02:44] <Healot> wait, it's gonna be
[02:44] <RadiantFire> xp is as expensive as hell
[02:44] <OOD> it'll be just as expensive probably
[02:44] <OOD> or even more
[02:44] <RadiantFire> I started work today at compusa, they keep xp behind the shelves cuz its so expensive :-)
[02:44] <bonbonthejon> and you will have to pay for using it, as in time-sharing, possibly
[02:45] <RawSewage> Vista was designed to make people buy new computers
[02:45] <Healot> my inside source say, it will 15-20% more expensive... cause the medium is DVD etc... and longer support time than XP
[02:45] <OOD> yep
[02:46] <Healot> hmm... I'll go for Dell PC OEM then...
[02:46] <bonbonthejon> is konfetti a program, cuz I think it would be fun
[02:46] <bonbonthejon> I might learn to program for kde to write it
[02:47] <Healot> bonbonthejon: you can start now...
[02:47] <bonbonthejon> if I know vb.net, how hard is it to switch to mono
[02:48] <Healot> virtually not hard... because Mono is getting .NET-like every day
[02:48] <bonbonthejon> cool
[02:49] <Healot> They are working on Windows Forms completion
[02:49] <DaSkreech> Not too hard though :(
[02:50] <DaSkreech> `shutdown -r`
[02:50] <Healot> but, bonbonthejon, you need to program with C# as mono currently uses C# heavily...
[02:50] <bonbonthejon> i've done C++
[02:50] <Healot> hohoho those two are different -)
[02:51] <bonbonthejon> c++ and vb.net
[02:51] <Healot> btw, you can convert VB .net code to C# code using SharpDevelop
[02:51] <RadiantFire> ewww... C#
[02:51] <Ashex> Is it possible to install Kubuntu to a laptop that has no Floppy/CD-rom drive and can't boot from usb?
[02:51] <Healot> and port/compile the code with Mono
[02:51] <RadiantFire> no
[02:51] <OOD> yea, through the network card
[02:51] <Ashex> hmm
[02:51] <Healot> Ashex: yes via network
[02:52] <Ashex> any guides on installing over network?
[02:52] <RadiantFire> OOD: hows he gonna boot it?
[02:52] <Ashex> wait, google will know....
[02:52] <Healot> hehe
[02:52] <OOD> you can boot with the network card
[02:52] <Healot> if you have another PC running the installer
[02:52] <OOD> i've never tried it before, but it can be done, somehow ;)
[02:52] <RadiantFire> very few computers can boot from a network card
[02:52] <Healot> and a crosscable or switch etc...
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> buy a converter and plug the hdd in a px
[02:52] <bonbonthejon> pc*
[02:53] <Ashex> Hmm
[02:53] <Ashex> Oh, another question I got.
[02:54] <Ashex> How the deuce would I install ndiswrapper on a computer that doesn't have a network connection. I don't have the build-essential module or kernel-headers
[02:54] <Ashex> only connection it had was a wireless usb adapter, but it won't work without ndiswrapper
[02:54] <Healot> Ashex: the brand of that usb adapter?
[02:54] <bonbonthejon> download the package and burn to cd, unless this is te lappy
[02:54] <Ashex> um
[02:54] <Healot> !wireless
[02:54] <Ashex> WG111v2
[02:54] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:54] <OOD> yea
[02:54] <Ashex> I checked ubuntuforums already
[02:55] <Frederick> folks anyone else feeling eclipse is DAMM slow under kubuntu?
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> what is eclipse
[02:55] <Frederick> I got it wotking fine in gentoo I have java  1.5 here
[02:55] <Frederick> bonbonthejon, java IDE
[02:55] <Healot> it's Java, make the VM memory larger, with the -X  switch
[02:55] <bonbonthejon> done that too, lol
[02:55] <farous> i installed eclipse from the eclipse websit and running fine here update is great too
[02:55] <Healot> damn java -h for that
[02:55] <Frederick> Healot, how?
[02:56] <Ashex> Healot, that doc doesn't help at all. All the docs I've found assume I have ndiswrapper installed
[02:56] <Ashex> which I don't
[02:56] <Healot> Ashex: my second question. do you understand the documentation?
[02:56] <Ashex> Yes, I do
[02:56] <Healot> !hardware
[02:56] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[02:56] <Healot> up to where do you understand the doc?
[02:57] <Frederick> Healot, how do I do it?
[02:57] <Ashex> I've checked, the device will work under ubuntu
[02:57] <Ashex> however for some reason it won't connec to any networks it picks up
[02:57] <Healot> Frederick: java -h
[02:57] <Ashex> I checked the ubuntu forums and it works with ndiswrapper
[02:57] <bonbonthejon> can you scan for networks
[02:58] <Ashex> however I am not able to install ndiswrapper-utils as I don't have a network/internet connection
[02:58] <Ashex> Yes, I can scan
[02:58] <Healot> WPA enabled Ashex?
[02:58] <Ashex> I've tried using a static connection but that hasn't worked
[02:58] <Ashex> no, it's not
[02:58] <Ashex> I'm not at the computer, it's about 20 minutes away from me, so I can't really do live testing. But I checked everything I could think of
[03:01] <Ashex> sooo....any suggestions?
[03:01] <Frederick> no change, anyone here ever set the java VM memory?
[03:02] <bonbonthejon> ashex, sorry
[03:05] <Ashex> Well, poop
[03:05] <Ashex> Then here's yet another question! ^_^
[03:05] <karvr> opera versus firefox folks, which one is better and safer?
[03:06] <Ashex> Using a crossover cable between my laptop and that desktop should give it network connectivity if I'm connected wirelessly, right?
[03:06] <unix_infidel> Ashex: not automatically, no.
[03:07] <Ashex> yeah, I haven't setup a crossover connection in linux before, what extra steps are needed?
[03:07] <TheHighChild> Is anyone able to help troubleshoot a sound issue? IBM T42
[03:15] <xwolf-> i downloaded a dvd, with a folder structure (not an iso image). it has the main folder, then the VIDEO_TS folder, then the VOB files and so on.. i tried to play them choosing Open Folder (translating from PT-BR) in Kaffeine, the main menu opens but i cant navigate through it... any tips?
[03:19] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: Try VLC
[03:19] <xwolf-> that's another program?
[03:20] <OOD> yea
[03:20] <xwolf-> lemme see
[03:20] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: I use the VLC media player for everything. It seems to work where nothing else will. Also make sure you have the libcssdvd codec
[03:20] <TheHighChild> Any folks running thinkpads?
[03:22] <crimsun> TheHighChild: yep, X41-2527 here.
[03:24] <TheHighChild> crimsun: Do you have suspend to ram enabled?
[03:24] <crimsun> I do
[03:24] <TheHighChild> crimsun: Do you have sound issues with it?
[03:24] <TheHighChild> I don't have sound since enabled suspend to ram yesterday
[03:24] <TheHighChild> I just tried something, I'll brb
[03:25] <BKaj> What player does windows media in Kubuntu /KDE
[03:25] <BKaj> ?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Kmplayer
[03:27] <byen> is there an easy way to convert wma to ogg?
[03:27] <byen> or mp3?
[03:28] <TheHighChild> byen: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92629
[03:28] <xwolf-> TheHighChild i cant find this libcssdvd
[03:31] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: try this script sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[03:31] <TheHighChild> let me know if it works.
[03:32] <xwolf-> it installed libdvdcss2
[03:33] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: Cool. you need that to play dvd's
[03:34] <xwolf-> well, i choose open folder in kaffeine and still can't navigate the dvd menu
[03:35] <xwolf-> fyi i dont have the physical dvd inserted, it's not a mounted image either. it's just a folder containing another folder called VIDEO_TS
[03:36] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: Try using VLC to view it.
[03:36] <TheHighChild> 'apt-get install vlc'
[03:40] <bobstro-away> yikes, they want us to change passwords again?
[03:41] <xwolf-> damn, it worked.
[03:41] <kristian> hello
[03:41] <BKaj> hi kristian
[03:42] <kristian> d u all use linux
[03:42] <BKaj> well, I'm trying :)
[03:42] <kristian> how do u like it so far
[03:42] <bobstro> kristian: i do. and a lot of gadgets these days do!
[03:42] <OOD> it's pretty good ;)
[03:43] <kristian> wicth distro do u use
[03:43] <bobstro> kristian: for 99% of what i do, it's ideal.
[03:43] <bobstro> kristian: i'm using kubuntu right now.
[03:43] <BKaj> kubuntu 6.06 AMD64
[03:43] <kristian> i use kubuntu 6.06
[03:44] <kristian> me to i use amd64 kubuntu 6.06 on a celeron d 336
[03:45] <TheHighChild> Anyone that was following my Sound issue with my IBM T42. Turns out I needed to mute PCM sound in my kmix. That seems to have fixed the trick.
[03:45] <kristian> what kind of hardware do u guys run linux on
[03:46] <OOD> a64 3200+
[03:46] <kristian> is it a homemade pc u built your self
[03:46] <OOD> yep
[03:47] <bobstro> kristian: i've run linux on just about everything from a 386, and kubuntu specifically on a64 and right now on my dell d600 laptop.
[03:47] <TheHighChild> kristian: AMD64 3000+ (run in 32 bit cause 64 blows) and an IBM T42
[03:47] <Kreuger> can changing the kernel config when attempting to install a new kernel ruin your current kernel setup?
[03:47] <BKaj> not mine ...was too lazy ...but have an old one I built yrs ago on my network
[03:47] <bobstro> Kreuger: no, that should be fine.
[03:47] <kristian> what r your detailed specs
[03:47] <bobstro> kristian: i've ONLY run home-built pc's.
[03:47] <BKaj> you'll end up with 2 choices at at boot up
[03:47] <kristian> me 2
[03:48] <crimsun> TheHighChild: no, I don't have sound issues with this one; do you?
[03:48] <fiyawerx> hey guys, anyone know any good sites that compare the different window managers?
[03:48] <Kreuger> for some reason my sound disappeared and all I did was try to get my new kernel working. sound was working fine until I rebooted back into this kernel because the new one didnt work. i thought maybe it was from changing the config
[03:48] <fiyawerx> so far i like kubuntu best, but want to try out some other ones
[03:48] <bobstro> kristian: the ONLY hardware that's been a real issue has been the stupid built-in wireless on this laptop. i bought a netgear card today and am using it now.
[03:48] <bobstro> fiyawerx: i've seen a few, but find i really have to try them myself.
[03:48] <TheHighChild> crimsun: I just muted PCM in my kmix and it was alright.
[03:49] <bobstro> fiyawerx: any sites more than a year old are likely out of date.
[03:49] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: I agree with bob, but I like Xfce and E17
[03:49] <OOD> my integrated sound card doesn't have hardware mixing so i don't get surround sound in linux :(
[03:49] <BKaj> Compaq Presario SR1734X AMD64 Venice CPU, 1gig RAM, 160G HDD at 2Ghz
[03:49] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Trust me, Dapper is as good/solid/easy as it gets
[03:49] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: just tried e17, its pretty, but not my thing really
[03:49] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: Why not?
[03:49] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: im not debating ubuntu, just the window manager
[03:49] <kristian> my specs r celeron d 336, asus p5rd2-vm, WD 160GB SATA2, asus 16X dvd-Burner
[03:49] <crimsun> OOD: hardware mixing (as the term is commonly abused) isn't relevant for surround sound...
[03:49] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: eh, doesn't run that great over nomachine remote control :)
[03:49] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: lots of missing window parts and whatnot until i refresh the desktop by going into another one then back
[03:49] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Gotcha. I hear that. i debate that all the time as well. I've just grown too attached to the addon packages
[03:50] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: might wait until release on that one
[03:50] <Kreuger> anyone got a clue for me?
[03:50] <bobstro> fiyawerx: for MYSELF, xfce is good for older machines. for others that ask me a lot of questions, kde or gnome are best.
[03:50] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: addon packages in the window managers? you lost me
[03:50] <OOD> crimsun: thats
[03:50] <OOD> crimsun: that's what i understand, what is then?
[03:50] <xwolf-> TheHighChild just wanted to thank you, it worked.
[03:50] <TheHighChild> xwolf-: Np man. VLC pwns.
[03:50] <fiyawerx> bobstro: nod, might give xfce a shot, im on mostly remotely, kde actually works nice via the nomachine, im surprised
[03:50] <crimsun> OOD: did you use plug:surroundXX (replacing XX with your config)?
[03:51] <fiyawerx> bobstro: will try out xfce and some others just to see how they are
[03:51] <crimsun> OOD: e.g., a 5.1 -> plug:surround51
[03:51] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Yeah, KDE provides Konversation, Kmail, etc, etc. I dig those packages. That is what I meant
[03:51] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: nod, so far been using kopete and konversation, so anything else im going to be comparing to them :)
[03:51] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: You can still run them without KDE
[03:51] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: nod, that too, i don't know, im picky when it comes to that tho, it just doesnt LOOK right hehe
[03:51] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: or feel right, rather
[03:51] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: I hate Kopete. The blue heads make me wanna flip. I use gaim
[03:52] <OOD> crimsun: my integrated card isn't capable of surround sound in linux, it has surround in windows because in windows it's done through software surround, but the linux driver can't do software surround
[03:52] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: not too good with the theme custimization yet either, so if i change the look of kde around i might like it
[03:52] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Perhaps a nother theme? Baghira looks like OSX
[03:52] <Hawkwind> Anyone know a source to get audacious by chance ?
[03:52] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: altho with the dockbar and whatnot it runs like crap over remote
[03:52] <crimsun> OOD: sure it can.
[03:52] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: will try it
[03:52] <Kreuger> anybody?
[03:52] <OOD> crimun: really? if you can help me get it working then that would be awesome
[03:52] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: have you considered ssh for your remote operation needs? Remote servers (VNC) are not secure at all
[03:52] <crimsun> OOD: if your chipset doesn't align with the predefined surroundXX ones, you can define your own routing
[03:52] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: might even go with one for my local desktop like kde with fancy stuffs, and then something like xfce for my remote virtual desktop
[03:53] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: im not using vnc, im using nomachine's server/client, it routes everything via ssh
[03:53] <OOD> crimsun: alright, so how would I do that
[03:53] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: and its SOOO much faster than vnc
[03:53] <crimsun> OOD: /all/ the routing is software-based in alsa-lib
[03:53] <MehAdult> Yeah E17 needs to be released first lol
[03:53] <crimsun> OOD: see the surround sections on alsa.opensrc.org
[03:53] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: im going from work into my machine at home on cable and it's _almost_ like im sitting at the desktop, i can load up web pages with images, even drag the window around almost realtime
[03:53] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Nice, that's why it's so slow then. At least it's secure. I use ssh with the -X option when I need a graphical interface but I'll try out your method sometime
[03:53] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: animations you can tell tho
[03:54] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: nomachine uses some proprietary compression i think, its really not that slow, except with animations, but i could even see the e17 startup logo, so thats a good thing
[03:54] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: but htings like the application menus and whatnot are just about realtime
[03:54] <OOD> crimsun: you mean setting it in the .asoundrc file?
[03:55] <bobstro> fiyawerx: nomachine sets up for you?
[03:55] <OOD> crimsun: this? http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ028
[03:55] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: vnc used to even disconnect me just viewing my desktop sometimes, with nomachine i was browsing deviantart no problem
[03:55] <fiyawerx> bobstro: i got it to install in about 30 seconds :) 8 commands, i put a post about them
[03:55] <fiyawerx> bobstro: using the new version, not using freenx
[03:55] <bobstro> fiyawerx: oh, got a link?
[03:55] <fiyawerx> bobstro: nomachine released a new free server, 2 simul. connection max
[03:55] <fiyawerx> bobstro: sure one sec
[03:55] <bobstro> fiyawerx: i just got the putty/openssh socks proxy working. :)O
[03:56] <crimsun> OOD: yes, in a custom ~/.asoundrc
[03:56] <fiyawerx> bobstro: i didn't even need to mess with that, i just did an apt-get install openssh-server or whatever it is then the rest of the commands and it all worked by default
[03:56] <fiyawerx> bobstro: sec for the link
[03:56] <crimsun> OOD: your hardware may vary considerably, which will take experimenting on your part
[03:56] <OOD> crimsun: i already tried that a while ago, this is only possible if the card is capable of hardware mixing which mine is not
[03:56] <bobstro> fiyawerx: ok, good. i've got the ssh server running at the house already.
[03:57] <fiyawerx> bobstro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174492#post1174492
[03:57] <crimsun> OOD: no, it means you've not gotten the routing yet
[03:57] <crimsun> OOD: it has nothing to do with pcm multiplexing, believe me
[03:58] <crimsun> OOD: my card has no hardware mixing [sic] , and it can do surround
[03:58] <fiyawerx> bobstro: note: i didn't use apt-get, these are new releases, but they worked perfect
[03:58] <OOD> crimsun: ok so what would i have to do now?
[03:58] <crimsun> OOD: take the routing (ttable) variables and play with them
[03:59] <bobstro> fiyawerx: thanks. i've been doing per-port forwarding, and it gets tedious.
[03:59] <bobstro> fiyawerx: only recently noticed the socks support!
[03:59] <fiyawerx> bobstro: i didn't need to do anything but port 22
[03:59] <fiyawerx> bobstro: you can route all the nomachine info through it with a checkbox on the client setup
[04:00] <OOD> crimsun: i doubt this'll work, what happened when i tried to use the .asoundrc file set to 5.1, and what i got was instead of 5.1, i had just regular 2.1 but louder and distorted
[04:00] <OOD> crimsun:which means i had all the channels playing in stereo
[04:01] <crimsun> OOD: does your hardware have any surround control toggles (cf. ``amixer'')
[04:01] <crimsun> ?
[04:01] <OOD> don't know, i have an integrated alc'658
[04:02] <fiyawerx> bobstro: i didn't have to do any of the editing the people under my post mention
[04:02] <fiyawerx> bobstro: thats _all_ i had to do on the server, then get the client for xp from nomachine.com
[04:02] <bobstro> hmmm. very interesting.
[04:03] <bobstro> fiyawerx: are you using kde clients with it?
[04:05] <fiyawerx> bobstro: i have, and they worked fine too
[04:05] <pipitas> fiyawerx: rubbish you tell when stating "NoMachine uses proprietary compression"! The NX Core libs are all GPL.
[04:05] <fiyawerx> pipitas: ok, im corrected then, i meant it as its not the same rdp or vnc use
[04:05] <fiyawerx> pipitas: my bad
[04:05] <OOD> crimsun: any ideas?
[04:05] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[04:05] <kike> pero que es esta mierda
[04:06] <Kr4t05> Is there any reason why Frostwire would just stop working?
[04:06] <fiyawerx> pipitas: i meant it as in their own, thought thats how it was, because its faster than any other program i've used
[04:06] <kike> alguien habla espaol?
[04:06] <Kr4t05> !tell kike about es
[04:06] <crimsun> OOD: I need to see ``amixer'' output before I can answer
[04:06] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell kike about es
[04:06] <crimsun> (use pastebin)
[04:06] <kike> mother fockers
[04:06] <Kr4t05> ...?
[04:07] <kike> kiss my  ass americans
[04:07] <Kr4t05> Oi... -.-
[04:07] <Kr4t05> Oi vey...
[04:07] <Hawkwind> Anyone have a good source to get audacious from by chance ?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> For Dapper that is
[04:08] <Kr4t05> Someone explain that...
[04:08] <Kr4t05> First, he flames.
[04:08] <Kr4t05> Then, he LEAVES...
[04:08] <Kr4t05> WTF??
[04:08] <chip42> seems like a typical pattern to me
[04:09] <Kr4t05> Yeah... true...
[04:09] <OOD> crimsun: sending the text with the output
[04:09] <TheHighChild> !tell Kr4t05 about repos
[04:09] <chip42> i don't have a lot of faith in people though :(
[04:09] <TheHighChild> does that work?
[04:09] <Kr4t05> Yeah
[04:09] <TheHighChild> Sorry for the spam. I wasn't sure of the syntax. I thought it would post global
[04:09] <Kr4t05> I wasn't sure if it was working for him.
[04:09] <Kr4t05> Right
[04:09] <Kr4t05> No big.
[04:10] <Kr4t05> It didn't tell me if it had sent him anything.
[04:10] <eXCeSS> anyone know ftp servers with gui?
[04:10] <TheHighChild> me either, I'll presume it works then
[04:10] <eXCeSS> that arent pureftpd
[04:10] <pipitas> fiyawerx: yes, "NX' roundtripsupression + compression + cache = speed + responsiveness over slow links" is completely NoMachine's development
[04:10] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS: You want an FTP client or a GUI server setup?
[04:10] <pipitas> fiyawerx: but it is based on X -- in effect, it is an X11 protocol extension
[04:11] <eXCeSS> gui server
[04:11] <pipitas> fiyawerx: where the protocol extension is implemented in the nxcomp library
[04:11] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS: Webmin should allow you to perform FTP setup in a graphical mode
[04:11] <eXCeSS> TheHighChild: thank you
[04:12] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS: You can try proftpd also
[04:12] <fiyawerx> pipitas: thanks, still new to this, i was just happy to get it working :) struggled for 2 days with freenx, then saw that they released their own free server now, and poof, it worked, hehe
[04:12] <fiyawerx> pipitas: except i think their server is max 2 simul. connections or something for "free"
[04:12] <eXCeSS> TheHighChild: is that standard with gui or is it an addon
[04:13] <Kr4t05> I'm installing Cedega from CVS. Once the script is done, and Cedega has been "set up" I try to run cvscedega. Nothing happens. Did I do something wrong.
[04:13] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS: Sorry, here's a graphical frontend http://mange.dynup.net/linux.html
[04:15] <ScottLand> If i have a Mac address can i resolve the IP? and how
[04:16] <eXCeSS> thanks
[04:17] <TheHighChild> ScottLand: Every network card has a MAC address. It doesn't mean you have an IP
[04:17] <TheHighChild> ScottLand: The MAC is hard-coded into every network interface card.
[04:17] <TheHighChild> ScottLand: Catch me on Private if you have questions
[04:18] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS: NP, let me know how that works out. I'd be interested in it myself.
[04:18] <AQUI_TU_NICK> hi
[04:18] <AQUI_TU_NICK> can i run "cmd" from wine?
[04:19] <TheHighChild> AQUI_TU_NICK: You mean like the windows command line?
[04:19] <AQUI_TU_NICK> yes
[04:19] <AQUI_TU_NICK> i want to use DOS
[04:19] <AQUI_TU_NICK> can I?
[04:19] <OOD> why would you want to?
[04:19] <OOD> you have the linux command line
[04:19] <AQUI_TU_NICK> cause i have a prices list make in foxpro for DOS
[04:19] <TheHighChild> AQUI_TU_NICK: no, it doesn't emulate the OS, it only provides an application layer to programs. It won't emulate any sort of system
[04:20] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: i installed that theme via adept, but not sure where it went to use it?
[04:21] <AQUI_TU_NICK> ok, thats my preoblem
[04:21] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: kmenu > System Settings > Appearance
[04:21] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: oh, you have to change each one manually?
[04:21] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: A couple places will store options for this theme. Check "styles" thought, That should be the main place
[04:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i was messing with the kde look and i dont like what came out , is there a command that will restore all the settings to the default???
[04:23] <AQUI_TU_NICK> i have a prices list made in foxpro for DOS, i have to run in linux, i try dosbox, but is slowly
[04:23] <AQUI_TU_NICK> how can i solve this problem?
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> wuttup peeps..
[04:23] <CaBlGuY> !Java
[04:23] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:25] <CaBlGuY> ok, I got java installed apperently BUT I can't get it to run like on web sites and stuff so..  what gives??
[04:26] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: is sun-java5-plugin installed?
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> anyone..   today..  maybe..  hello..
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> ummm  yes..
[04:26] <CaBlGuY> must be en echo in hjere
[04:27] <crimsun> "echo"?
[04:27] <crimsun> I don't see anything in your statements regarding that package being installed
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> yes...   ya silly willy..  I got sun-java5-jre installed
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> well Duh.,...  Java...
[04:27] <crimsun> sun-java5-jre != sun-java5-plugin
[04:27] <CaBlGuY> read up  /\
[04:27] <crimsun> and Java != (either of those packages)
[04:27] <crimsun> anyway
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> anyway..
[04:28] <crimsun> which Web browser are you using?
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> so I need to "install" plugin then..
[04:28] <CaBlGuY> firefox mainly..
[04:28] <crimsun> and the plugin isn't listed in about:plugins?
[04:28] <crimsun> dpkg -l sun-java5-plugin|grep ^ii
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> ok..  apt-get install?
[04:29] <crimsun> what's the output from the above dpkg command?
[04:29] <CaBlGuY> Oh hang on
[04:30] <suea> can anyone tell me why my wireless network device isnt enabling?
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> no output crimsun
[04:30] <crimsun> suea: sea lions
[04:30] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: yes, then install sun-java5-plugin
[04:30] <CaBlGuY> ok..
[04:30] <crimsun> (much as I suspected)
[04:30] <AQUI_TU_NICK> how do i mark java to all page i will visit
[04:31] <crimsun> note that installing sun-java5-jre doesn't automatically install sun-java5-plugin
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> ok, all done..  now anything else??
[04:31] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: restart your Web browser?
[04:31] <CaBlGuY> gimme a sec..
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Good bye Lexi!
[04:32] <CaBlGuY> ok, workin now..  thanks crimsun   ;)
[04:33] <CaBlGuY> and I promis..  I won't ever talk bad about ya again..  :p
[04:33] <OOD> crimsun: can you still help me out with the sound card? ill send over the amixer output
[04:34] <ScottLand> hey if I downloaded some linux files would i need to install them through ADept Manager??
[04:34] <crimsun> OOD: I'm pretty busy (at work)
[04:39] <fiyawerx> hah, this is pretty neat
[04:39] <fiyawerx> yakuake
[04:40] <fiyawerx> heh, i don't think im going to find anything i like better than kde
[04:40] <ScottLand> Hey can someone help me out real quick wit gettin an app up and running
[04:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> ScottLand: What app?
[04:40] <OOD> crimsun: ah ok, another time then, thanks :)
[04:41] <ScottLand> aircrack-ng
[04:41] <ScottLand> i downloaded the .taz.gz file
[04:41] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK, it's probably the source you downloaded.
[04:41] <ScottLand> yea
[04:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright, extract the archive 'tar zxvf name-of-archive.tar.gz'
[04:42] <ScottLand> yes sir did that
[04:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK then, run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:43] <ScottLand> blah blah blah package build-essential has no installation candidate
[04:44] <ScottLand> package build-essential is not available
[04:44] <CheeseBurgerMan> Have you enabled multiverse/universe?
[04:44] <ScottLand> no sir i dont believe so
[04:45] <CheeseBurgerMan> !sources
[04:45] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:45] <fiyawerx> anyone gotten halo pc to run under kubuntu?
[04:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> where is desktop settings wizard?
[04:45] <thompa> the sound went off after a reboot
[04:46] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[04:46] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:46] <thompa> system settings sound is hardwactdetere auto
[04:46] <fiyawerx> ooh thats nice
[04:46] <thompa> touchpad cant disable either
[04:47] <thompa> qsyanptics now has all the options greyed out for some reason
[04:47] <thompa> ive changed nothing though
[04:48] <thompa> anybody know how to get rid off the friggan touchpad?
[04:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> thompa: I have a button that does that on my computer, never investigated software methods.
[04:50] <thompa> its a sony notebook
[04:50] <thompa> funny thing is qsynaptics worked until today
[04:53] <thompa> other problem is no sound after reboot
[04:54] <ScottLand> !easysource
[04:54] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:59] <AQUI_TU_NICK> where do i get a working dosemu
[04:59] <AQUI_TU_NICK> ?
[05:00] <OOD> dosbox
[05:00] <AQUI_TU_NICK> not dosbox
[05:00] <AQUI_TU_NICK> dosemu
[05:00] <AQUI_TU_NICK> i need a fast dos emulator
[05:00] <CheeseBurgerMan> http://dosemu.org ?
[05:01] <dr_willis> hmm
[05:01] <fiyawerx> do you guys think it'd be silly to have a seperate window manager for doing stuff remotely just to be faster?
[05:01] <dr_willis> dosbox is a dos emulator last ii looked.
[05:01] <fiyawerx> like using kde at home but xfce at work? or whatever really
[05:01] <dr_willis> fiyawerx,  depends on the tasks.
[05:01] <dr_willis> I use fluxbox for my vnc sessions
[05:01] <dr_willis> or icewm, or windowmaker
[05:01] <fiyawerx> yeah, im just trying to decide what the heck to use this box for now that i get it set up hehe
[05:01] <fiyawerx> yeah havn't looked into those yet
[05:02] <Hawkwind> Anyone have a good source to get audacious from by chance ?
[05:02] <fiyawerx> i mean i don't even think i have any problems using kde from work, im just kinda lost lol, everything works i just don't know what else to do
[05:02] <Hawkwind> For Dapper that is
[05:02] <dr_willis> i got my main fileserver set to spawn gdm in a vnc sessinn when i connect.
[05:03] <fiyawerx> cus like i want to set up the dockbar and stuff, but thats too slow even over nomachine's client
[05:03] <fiyawerx> so i'd need something lighter for when i'm at work
[05:03] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: Are you still around?
[05:04] <fiyawerx> kxdocker, that's the one i tried
[05:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> TheHighChild: Yep
[05:04] <dr_willis> i find all these fancy desktops get in the way.. i seem to just run a few programs and thats it.
[05:05] <fiyawerx> thats what i usually end up doing, but i figure i can custimize it, might as well play around a bit
[05:05] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: Hey man. i helped ScottLand get his repos in order and he got build-essential. Did you know what he was doing? if so, if not, I can try and figure things out for him
[05:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> He was installing aircrack-ng
[05:07] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: is that something you are familiar with? if not, I can look things up and help him. I wasn't sure if you knew what he's trying to do or not.
[05:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> That's about what I knew -- I'm not even sure what aircrack-ng is.
[05:08] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: Ok, it's for wardriving I believe. I'll look into the docs. Thanks.
[05:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright. Good luck. :)
[05:08] <ScottLand> man i feel like such a baby gettin all u to help me
[05:09] <ScottLand> thanks for ur help
[05:09] <CheeseBurgerMan> Not a problem, although I'm not really doing anything.
[05:11] <Hawkwind> No one here has a source for audacious for Dapper ?
[05:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind: What's wrong with the stuff at http://audacious-media-player.org/Downloads ?
[05:13] <robitaille> Hawkwind:  http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/a/audacity/
[05:13] <robitaille> oops...wrong link :)
[05:13] <Hawkwind> CheeseBurgerMan: I'd like to have deb packages preferrably
[05:14] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: there's a how-to on the forums.
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind: Oh, I figured you meant the source.
[05:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> Sorry 'bout that.
[05:14] <Hawkwind> CheeseBurgerMan: Heh nah
[05:14] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Got the link handy ?
[05:14] <dr_willis> 'use the source luke!'
[05:14] <GullyFoyle> hrm i created a session type "freenode" in konsole that would run "irssi -c irc.freenode.net -n GullyFoyle -w mypassword" and it works fine. but konsole automatically gave it a shortcut - ctrl+alt+f. is this normal? seems like a feature that could produce trouble if you already have that keychain bound to something else.
[05:15] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: just a sec
[05:15] <unix_infidel> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195867
[05:15] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: ^^^^
[05:15] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Thanks man
[05:16] <unix_infidel> this is what I used, it seems to be working fine EXCEPT for the skin issue which is really buggin me.
[05:22] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: Awesome.  It uses all 168 skins that I have :)
[05:22] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: xmms skins?
[05:22] <lucero_7> anyone know off the top of their head which plugin handles window shade over in compiz?
[05:22] <lucero_7> need to turn the damn thing off
[05:22] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: xmms, winamp.  I've got a mixture of both
[05:22] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: how big is the folder, mind emailing them to me?
[05:23] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: I can give you some.  About 65 or so
[05:24] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: *shrug* i'll take what i can get.  Mind putting them on a share
[05:41] <ScottLand> if i downloaded source files from a website... i then extracted the .tar.gz and then did sudo make
[05:41] <ScottLand> when tried to launch that app from kon i get command not found
[05:41] <ScottLand> anyone know why
[05:42] <noiesmo> ScottLand, normally when you download src files you need to do
[05:42] <noiesmo> ./configure
[05:42] <noiesmo> make
[05:42] <noiesmo> make install
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ScottLand: which app?
[05:42] <ScottLand> aircrack-ng
[05:42] <noiesmo> and you will need to sudo -i before i suggest so you do it as root user
[05:43] <Hawkwind> What's wrong with sudo apt-get install aircrack ?
[05:44] <driz> lol
[05:44] <ScottLand> aircrack-ng is the new one
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Ummm, what's the difference that you need -ng ?
[05:44] <ScottLand> lol i dont know the admin in the channel said itll fix my problem
[05:44] <ScottLand> so i extracted it to a folder
[05:44] <Hawkwind> Yeah, I'd trust him for sure, NOT
[05:44] <ScottLand> i went into console
[05:44] <ScottLand> and tried
[05:45] <Hawkwind> ScottLand: Read the README or INSTALL file that came in the unpacked directory
[05:45] <ScottLand> sudo -i make install
[05:45] <ScottLand> how do i do that
[05:45] <ScottLand> sorry ive only had this OS for like 6 hours
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Open it in a text editor of your choice
[05:45] <ScottLand> k
[05:45] <Hawkwind> kwrite README or kwrite INSTALL or whatever
[05:45] <Hawkwind> Hobbsee: BTW, xchat-2.6.4 got uploaded to Edgy yesterday or the day before :)
[05:46] <Hobbsee> Hawkwind: nice :)
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Now with spell check capabilities
[05:46] <Hobbsee> not if kdelibs* is borked.
[05:46] <RawSewage> how do you uninstall a Wine program that doesnt have an uninstaller
[05:46] <Hawkwind> Heh yeah.  Kinda pointless when kdelibs* is broken
[05:46] <Hawkwind> RawSewage: Delete any directories it has maybe ?
[05:47] <RawSewage> is that it?
[05:47] <RawSewage> thats messy
[05:47] <Hawkwind> I couldn't tell ya.  If Windows is the best job for what I need, I just use Windows
[05:47] <Hawkwind> I've never touched Wine, and plan to keep it that way
[05:47] <RawSewage> thats irrational
[05:48] <Hawkwind> No.  You use the best tool for the job actually :)
[05:50] <Hobbsee> RawSewage: probably ask in #winehq
[05:50] <RawSewage> ty
[05:51] <Hobbsee> !wine
[05:51] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:53] <Kr4t05> Has anyone else had luck getting XGL and Compiz working.
[05:54] <Kr4t05> I managed to get it to work, all except for the cube plugin, but that could be because I use TwinView.
[05:56] <me2win> Kr4t05: i got it working a few months ago during a dapper flight, but thats it
[05:56] <me2win> haven't tried since then
[05:56] <Kr4t05> Yeah, it wasn't as difficult as I thought it would be.
[05:57] <Kr4t05> The only thing I regret, is never getting the cube to work. ><
[06:03] <Fiyawerx> hey guys, whats the difference between the live cd and the dvd versions?
[06:03] <Fiyawerx> other than 3 gigs
[06:03] <Hawkwind> Live CD you don't have to install anything if you don't want to
[06:04] <flake> the cd i burnt fit on a cd - non dvd
[06:04] <Hawkwind> The DVD version IIRC is like the alternate CD where you have to install it.  No Live CD feature
[06:04] <flake> ubuntu + kde
[06:04] <flake> kde d/l
[06:04] <Fiyawerx> i mean i don't mind installing it, just wondering what the 3 gig difference is
[06:05] <macd> anyone have any recomendations on a good mysql GUI ? similar to phpmyadmin but not a web based app, I tried kmysqladmin, but its pretty sloppy i its interface
[06:05] <Hobbsee> Fiyawerx: all of the stuff in main & restricted is on the dvd
[06:06] <Fiyawerx> oh, nice
[06:06] <Hobbsee> which you can just download, if you've got a reasonable internet connection
[06:06] <Fiyawerx> so for like my network drivers and whatnot that don't work without restricted in -25
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> yeah 5mb here, almost never max it out even
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> i have the cd install and i had everything working with that, figured i'd give the dvd a shot this time 'round
[06:07] <Hawkwind> I do all the time.  But that's probably not best discussed here
[06:07] <Hawkwind> Heh
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> hehe
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> yeah torrents and whatnot, im happy if im getting 300k
[06:08] <Fiyawerx> at work i can get around 1.3 MB per sec :)
[06:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> where is desktop settings wizard?
[06:08] <Fiyawerx> downloaded like 3 gigs of music in an hour the other day
[06:08] <Fiyawerx> good connection + newsgroups = rocks
[06:08] <cecil> :)
[06:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> where is desktop settings wizard?
[06:09] <Fiyawerx> and oh, PC (Intel x86) install/live DVD
[06:09] <Fiyawerx> so its live dvd too
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Anyone uses NetBeans
[06:10] <Kr4t05> Does anyone know what dir the screen savers are stashed in for 6.06?
[06:10] <Kr4t05> I want to try xwinwrap
[06:10] <Hawkwind> Kr4t05: /usr/share/screensavers ?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Kr4t05: Look at kscreensaver in adept and check installed files
[06:12] <driz> 1
[06:12] <moparisthebest> i use netbeans DaSkreech
[06:13] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: It has a GUI Builder?
[06:13] <moparisthebest> yes DaSkreech the best gui builder I found
[06:13] <moparisthebest> I even tried paid ones
[06:13] <moparisthebest> and netbeans is way better
[06:13] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Where is it? :)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> I found a pallete
[06:14] <moparisthebest> where is the gui builder?
[06:14] <moparisthebest> ill open it up and tell you one second :)
[06:14] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Yep. I created a new Java project and Went to Gui builder
[06:16] <moparisthebest> ok DaSkreech, you right click your default package and go to new> jframe form
[06:16] <moparisthebest> or new> jpanel form
[06:17] <moparisthebest> can anyone maybe help me with this error, its probably an easy fix
[06:17] <moparisthebest> error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[06:17] <moparisthebest> I installed the gtk libraries from adept i believe
[06:18] <moparisthebest> but how would I do what it tells me to? I dont know how to edit enviromental variables in linux :(
[06:18] <Hobbsee> !search gtk
[06:18] <ubotu> Found: gtk, browsers, p2p
[06:18] <Hobbsee> !search libgtk
[06:18] <ubotu> Found nothing
[06:18] <Hobbsee> stupid bot.
[06:19] <Hobbsee> moparisthebest: did you grab libgtk2.0-dev
[06:19] <Hobbsee> ?
[06:19] <moparisthebest> ill check now
[06:19] <DaSkreech> ok
[06:20] <moparisthebest> nope, im grabbing it now
[06:20] <moparisthebest> hopefully that will fix it :)
[06:20] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: Yay It crashed :)
[06:20] <moparisthebest> rofl thats nice
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Cool now I know how to build it though Thanks!!!
[06:20] <moparisthebest> no problem
[06:21] <moparisthebest> watcha building? or just playing around?
[06:21] <moparisthebest> thanks alot Hobbsee that got it :D
[06:22] <Hobbsee> moparisthebest: yay :)
[06:24] <DaSkreech> moparisthebest: A bank
[06:27] <moparisthebest> nice
[06:38] <orient2000> Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:
[06:38] <orient2000> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[06:38] <orient2000> Please close the other application e.g. 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.
[06:41] <orient2000> Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:
[06:41] <orient2000> [00:38]  --> _matt has joined this channel (n=matt@pool-72-76-27-59.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net).
[06:41] <orient2000> [00:38]  <orient2000> Last update did not got thouhgt. It said:
[06:41] <orient2000> [00:38]  <orient2000> Only one software management tool is allowed to run at the same time
[06:41] <orient2000> [00:38]  <orient2000> Please close the other application e.g. 'aptitude' or 'Synaptic' first.
[06:42] <Hobbsee> orient2000: please dont repeat.  and i'd say that you had adept/synaptic/apt-get open while trying to update?
[06:43] <orient2000> They are not open.
[06:44] <dr_willis> one may of crashed and left a lock file
[06:45] <orient2000> If they are open and I do not see it how can I kill them?
[06:47] <dr_willis> im thinking the lock file is /var/apt/SOMTHING :) (like lock)
[06:47] <dr_willis> use ps ax | less and see whats running
[06:47] <rApChIlE> wena
[06:48] <dr_willis> Hmm.. not there.. lets see
[06:48] <rApCHiLe> hola
[06:48] <rApCHiLe> hello
[06:48] <Hobbsee> orient2000: in a console, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[06:51] <orient2000> [00:48]  <Hobbsee> orient2000: in a console, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a not found
[06:51] <Hobbsee> sudo dpkg-configure -a
[06:51] <Hobbsee> sorry, i can never remember which way around it is :P
[06:51] <flake> I've got a few questions - is my /home/user-name folder considered the folder I should save images or write to?
[06:52] <flake> what about the /root, /bin, is that where the installed programs and data go?
[06:52] <ChefWill> !alias
[06:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about alias
[06:52] <ChefWill> :{
[06:52] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> flake: all the installed stuff usually goes to /usr or /bin or /sbin maybe
[06:52] <ChefWill> !shortcut
[06:52] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[06:52] <dr_willis> flake,  thats the direcytory that all the users files should be saved to.. in fact it should be the ONLY directory (normally) writeable by the user.
[06:52] <ChefWill> ;/
[06:52] <Hobbsee> flake: yes /home/user is often referred to as ~, and is what you save things too
[06:52] <dr_willis> flake,  /root is special home dir for the root user.
[06:53] <flake> root is like for the admin only?
[06:53] <Hobbsee> flake: usually you dont have to install programs manually like that - there are scripts that do it for you - and there's apt-get, of course
[06:53] <Hobbsee> flake: yes, you shouldnt run as root
[06:53] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> root == admin
[06:53] <flake> i think wolf-et installed to my /usr/local/...
[06:54] <flake> had to use sudo (super user?)
[06:54] <orient2000> sudo dpkg-configure -a command not found
[06:54] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> anyone else have lag problems using multiple desktops?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> orient2000: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:54] <dr_willis> [Evil] [Ernie] _,  depends a lot on the cpu and video card and window manager.. and your video card drivers.
[06:55] <hybrid> I just cant believe anyone would start a band just to make the scene and be cool and have chicks. I just cant believe it.  - Kurt Cobain in 1991
[06:55] <hybrid> err
[06:56] <orient2000> sudo dpkg--configure -a cccommand not found
[06:56] <BlankB_> [Evil] [Ernie] _: I had it really bad. using a nvidia fx-5200. Now im using an ati 9550 and no problems.
[06:56] <DaSkreech> orient2000: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:56] <dr_willis> :)
[06:58] <orient2000> It did something. Let me boot.
[07:05] <flake> what about reading ntfs drives, is it safe to do so
[07:06] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running on linux?
[07:06] <Hobbsee> flake: yep
[07:06] <Hobbsee> flake: just not write
[07:07] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: ah, was that it...
[07:07] <flake> ok
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Should get a !installcrash bot response :)
[07:08] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Well if some people can't remember the command/url and lots of people ask for it we make a bot respose right?
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !b-e
[07:08] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[07:09] <DaSkreech> !resolution
[07:09] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:09] <DaSkreech> !women
[07:09] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[07:09] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: true...
[07:09] <DaSkreech> How about an !installcrash
[07:09] <Lynoure> hmmm
[07:09] <Lynoure> !men
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about men
[07:09] <Hobbsee> !msg
[07:09] <ubotu> Please ask your messages in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[07:09] <Hobbsee> hmm.
[07:09] <Hobbsee> !msgthebot
[07:09] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:10] <Lynoure> Why does it answer on the channel if asking it on the channel is not ok?
[07:10] <ChefWill> !o p
[07:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about o p
[07:10] <Hobbsee> hehe...good point
[07:10] <Lynoure> It's not like anyone flooded the bot now
[07:11] <DaSkreech> ubotu knows nothing about men
[07:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running ?
[07:11] <Healot> game?
[07:11] <Healot> never heard of that before...
[07:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , the game
[07:11] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> pertypoker.com
[07:11] <arcturus> hi, is this the Windows help forum?
[07:12] <arcturus> lol
[07:12] <Healot> damn
[07:12] <DaSkreech> !xgl
[07:12] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:13] <Hobbsee> arcturus: hehe, no, try ##windows
[07:13] <DaSkreech> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can It run on Linux?
[07:13] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: someone did, either here or on #ubuntu, under wine
[07:14] <Healot> I saw a lot of WINE bs on mrbass.org
[07:14] <arcturus> noticed a number of screensavers don't work
[07:14] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: wasn't even tough, just normal install on wine. But alas, I no longer have logs for that (these channels cause a lot of log)
[07:14] <Healot> Irfanview, DVD Decrypter, DVD shrink  on wINE are there...
[07:15] <nixternal_> forget irfanview on wine...try out XnView...same thing but for linux...works great
[07:15] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: is it a lot of work to get wine installed?
[07:15] <Healot> both aren't free anyways :-
[07:16] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no, you can apt-get it
[07:16] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: it's in Universe
[07:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: is it just one package that i need?
[07:21] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: apt will pull the packages wine needs for you.
[07:21] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: But for added prettiness you might want to install msttcorefonts too
[07:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: alrighty , thank you
[07:22] <Healot> I need to drink Chateau 1972
[07:23] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: good luck. Is the poker thing an online poker game? :)
[07:23] <arcturus> anyone notice automatix has gone thru 8 changes ... in 8 days
[07:24] <kkathman> maybe someday they'll get it right :)
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Can I use system settings to switch between GDM and KDM?
[07:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: yeah , u can play for real money or for free, i didnt want to install it on windoez , but i figures linux is safer so ill give it a try
[07:25] <Hobbsee> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: the version in universe is reallly old
[07:25] <Hobbsee> unless you're on dapper
[07:25] <Hobbsee> i think.
[07:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> im on dapper
[07:27] <Healot> duck
[07:27] <Healot> sorry Dapper Rat
[07:28] <Healot> Showing the world just how charming rats are!
[07:28] <DaSkreech> LIke Mickey Mouse!!
[07:28] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: It might be the same one where my friend is making more money than in their dayjob... but that just means other people are losing.
[07:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: yup , i just play for free,   i can only see wine dummy packages in the repos , i added the wine repo tho
[07:37] <unix_infidel> !vim7
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about vim7
[07:37] <unix_infidel> !vim 7
[07:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about vim 7
[07:38] <farous> !find vim > unix_infidel
[07:38] <ubotu> Found: vim, vim-common, vim-doc, vim-gnome, vim-gui-common (and 15 others)
[07:38] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: weird, I could see wine in Universe. Do you have Universe in your sources list?
[07:38] <farous> ubotu: try packages.ubuntu.com and see if it is there
[07:39] <unix_infidel> farous: nope.
[07:39] <farous> unix_infidel: try packages.ubuntu.com and see if it is there
[07:39] <unix_infidel> not there...
[07:39] <farous> sorry made a mistake with this tab compl
[07:39] <farous> unix_infidel: so probably not there yet
[07:39] <unix_infidel> i would've apt-get'ed by now.
[07:40] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> Lynoure: yup , its alright , im gonna compile it from source , im gonna use the guide on wine website , ty
[07:41] <rodrigo> Hello
[07:41] <Hobbsee> vim7 will probably be in edgy
[07:41] <unix_infidel> Hobbsee: anyway to get it for dapper?
[07:41] <Hobbsee> unix_infidel: possible backport in a while, otherwise compile it
[07:41] <unix_infidel> 3rd party repo or backport?
[07:41] <unix_infidel> arg.
[07:42] <rodrigo> how can i go to a channel of kubuntu in spanish
[07:42] <crimsun> she means dapper-backports, which are hosted on ubuntu servers.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> thanks crimsun
[07:42] <Hobbsee> !es
[07:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:42] <Hobbsee> rodrigo: ^
[07:42] <crimsun> Hobbsee: ponies please
[07:42] <Hobbsee> crimsun: noyoucanthaveapony kthnksbye
[07:43] <crimsun> waaah :(
[07:49] <min> heyy
[07:49] <Healot> hey the dual monitor again?
[07:49] <min> yep
[07:49] <min> I still need help
[07:49] <Kr4t05> min, ATI or nVidia?
[07:50] <min> ati 9000
[07:50] <min> radeon mobile
[07:50] <Kr4t05> ....Hrm...
[07:50] <min> laptop
[07:50] <min> monitor acer
[07:50] <Kr4t05> I have no clue.
[07:50] <min> darn it
[07:50] <Kr4t05> I'm an NVIDIA TwinView monkey.
[07:50] <Kr4t05> Sorry
[07:50] <Healot> copy the section monitor (the existing entry), change the name and vertical/horizontal refresh, resolution, and color depth and restart X
[07:50] <Healot> that
[07:51] <Healot> according to the second monitor specification....
[07:51] <min> np
[07:51] <min> uh huh
[07:51] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[07:52] <min> Im on a acer al1714b where can I get the specs for it?
[07:53] <cvt|expert> how do i get win32codecs?
[07:54] <Melchiorre> use the seveas depositories http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/
[07:54] <Melchiorre> the package is called 'w32codecs'
[07:54] <cvt|expert> ah ty
[07:54] <Melchiorre> np
[07:54] <min> where can I get specs for the acer al1714b?
[07:58] <cvt|expert> :(
[07:59] <Melchiorre> no luck cvt|expert?
[07:59] <cvt|expert> nope
[08:00] <cvt|expert> i searched synaptic for w32codecs and win32codecs
[08:01] <Melchiorre> did you add the seveas extras repo? 'deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas dapper-seveas extras'
[08:01] <cvt|expert> no, but i will now
[08:02] <Melchiorre> :)
[08:10] <cvt|expert> command not found
[08:11] <cvt|expert> i think i'm using breezy
[08:11] <Melchiorre> oh
[08:11] <Melchiorre> oops
[08:11] <Melchiorre> well there are breezy repos too
[08:11] <Melchiorre> I think
[08:12] <min> yea
[08:13] <min> i still cant change it
[08:13] <min> only if I had one monitor
[08:13] <min> but thats not happening
[08:13] <min> any tips?
[08:15] <Melchiorre> cvt|expert:    deb http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas breezy-seveas extras
[08:17] <min> darn it
[08:20] <Healot> min: do you install Windows by chance?
[08:20] <min> I did
[08:20] <min> but I reforamted
[08:20] <min> and I dont have it anymore
[08:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[08:20] <Healot> you need to either i) refer to the back of the monirot
[08:21] <Healot> ii) google?
[08:21] <min> yea
[08:21] <min> wait
[08:21] <Healot> or manual
[08:21] <min> How do I open my xorf.conf in kubuntu
[08:21] <min> Im not the root suer so I cant change anything
[08:22] <Healot> add "sudo" before the command to edit the file
[08:22] <farous> min type sudo before the command then input your username
[08:22] <Healot> and enter your password
[08:22] <Healot> !root
[08:22] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:22] <min> ok
[08:22] <min> I put that into my xorg.conf file
[08:22] <min> actually
[08:22] <min> the information was alredy there
[08:22] <min> but I think that info was for my broken monitor
[08:22] <min> and not the external one that I hope to use
[08:23] <Healot> min
[08:24] <Healot> paste the output of your xorg.conf file
[08:24] <Healot> !pastebin
[08:24] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:24] <Healot> use that link.... don't paste here
[08:24] <min> got it
[08:25] <min> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16602
[08:26] <Healot> min: and probably the output of "lspci -v"
[08:26] <min> ?
[08:26] <min> what do I do?
[08:26] <Healot> to check your graphics card settings
[08:26] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:26] <min> yea
[08:26] <min> it gave me a bunch of text
[08:27] <min> should I paste them?
[08:27] <Healot> i want that text :)
[08:27] <Healot> sure
[08:27] <min> kl
[08:27] <Healot> btw, there is only ONE monitor/screen entry
[08:28] <min> yea its weird
[08:28] <min> ionno
[08:28] <min> I dunno how to fix it
[08:28] <min> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16603
[08:31] <Healot> mmkay. i am writing an example for your ATi dual monitor config (xorg.conf)
[08:31] <min> k
[08:31] <Healot> wait
[08:31] <min> so thats what I should write in there?
[08:37] <min> dum de dum dum
[08:37] <Healot> wait, writing the comments too
[08:37] <min> k
[08:39] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo >> Full explanation
[08:39] <bulltitan> can i play a winxp game by using vmware?
[08:39] <Healot> damn take forever to load
[08:39] <min> lol
[08:40] <Healot> yeah, if you installed XP using VMware
[08:40] <weihello> yeas
[08:40] <Healot> http://pastebin.com/732656 > min
[08:40] <bulltitan> great
[08:40] <bulltitan> thanks!
[08:40] <min> loading.
[08:41] <weihello> your computer is thirst, give it some water....
[08:41] <min> uh huh
[08:42] <min> loading
[08:42] <Healot> ask if you understand the settings
[08:42] <min> still loading
[08:42] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[08:43] <min> are u sure its right?
[08:43] <min> its still loading
[08:43] <Healot> wait
[08:43] <hsn_> how to set domain name? i know about hostname for seting host name, but how to set domain?
[08:43] <min> yea I think its bad link
[08:43] <min> the other guys went lighting fast
[08:43] <Healot> http://pastebin.com/732656
[08:44] <min> loooading
[08:44] <weihello> you can set it in networksetting
[08:45] <min> ok it worked
[08:45] <weihello> system->systemmanagement.
[08:45] <min> rwar thats long
[08:45] <min> so where do I put this?
[08:45] <weihello> hsn_
[08:46] <Healot> min: in the xorg.conf...
[08:46] <min> cna u tell me the code to open the xorg.conf file in terminal so I can edit it?
[08:46] <min> cuz if I just open it up
[08:46] <Healot> replace the existing settings...
[08:46] <Healot> hum
[08:46] <raphink> min: depens what editor you want to use
[08:46] <min> I dont have permission
[08:46] <Healot> you're in KDE right?
[08:46] <min> I have kate
[08:46] <min> yea
[08:46] <raphink> vi/emacs/nano, etc.
[08:46] <Healot> !sudo
[08:46] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:46] <raphink> ah right
[08:47] <raphink> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf then
[08:47] <min> k
[08:47] <Healot> "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" then
[08:47] <raphink> Healot: that also works :)
[08:47] <Healot> next enter your password when prompted
[08:47] <min> alright
[08:48] <Healot> HorizSync        30-31.5 >> add the appropriate setting (number like in the example)
[08:49] <min> k
[08:49] <min> I got it
[08:49] <Healot> min I would suggest that you jot down the "Monitor" settings, by attaching one monitor at one time
[08:49] <min> so just replace everything with what I have?
[08:49] <Healot> VertRefresh        70 << this too
[08:49] <Healot> yes!
[08:49] <min> k
[08:49] <Healot> bang
[08:50] <Healot> do one monitor at a time, record the settings, then add the entry in the example i gave you
[08:50] <cotroler> hello
[08:50] <min> I dotn have the specs for my monitor
[08:50] <cotroler> how do i install GNOME for kubuntu pls? (i have KDE)
[08:51] <min> I cnat find it in google either
[08:51] <min> get ubuntu
[08:51] <Healot> min: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" while plugging each monitor at one time...
[08:51] <crimsun> cotroler: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop && mv -f ~/.gtkrc-2.0 ~/.gtkrc-2.0.bak
[08:52] <Healot> with that, your xorg setting will be change according to the monitor you have
[08:52] <cotroler> !gnome
[08:52] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:52] <Healot> copy that setting into another file, preferably at your home directory
[08:52] <min> I cant take out th eother monitor
[08:52] <min> its stuck to my laptop
[08:53] <Healot> then take out the one that you can take out
[08:53] <cotroler> !ubuntu
[08:53] <min> then I cant see
[08:53] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[08:53] <min> cuz the othe one is broke
[08:53] <_cotroler> !gnome
[08:53] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:53] <Healot> or easier... isntall the following packages "fglrx-control xorg-driver-fglrx xorg-driver-fglrx-dev"
[08:53] <_cotroler> how do i install gnome in kubuntu pls??
[08:54] <min> wait
[08:54] <min> it says
[08:54] <min> #Put appropriate vertical and horizontal refrest settings if necessary
[08:54] <min> so I dont have to?
[08:54] <min> or do I need to
[08:54] <weihello> i run brood in wine last night.  but it's slow...slow....slow.... my screen frozened
[08:55] <Healot> that's where you supposed to put the "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" settings, min
[08:55] <min> k
[08:55] <Healot> anything taht start with # is a comment... min
[08:55] <min> I know that
[08:56] <Healot> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-85215.html << have you read this yet?
[08:56] <Healot> mmmkay, I going to be away
[08:56] <min> k
[08:59] <min> wait
[08:59] <_cotroler> how do i install gnome for kubuntu pls???
[09:00] <Hobbsee> _cotroler: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <_cotroler> tnx
[09:01] <_cotroler> Hobbsee: is says cans find package ubuntu-desktop
[09:02] <Hobbsee> _cotroler: post your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin.ca and give us the link, please?
[09:03] <_cotroler> Hobbsee: how do i post that link pls? iam newbie to linux
[09:04] <KuLover> why are the hard rives being checked even though i have it set to 0 0 in fstab?
[09:04] <Hobbsee> hmmm...better still
[09:04] <Hobbsee> !repos
[09:04] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:05] <ChefWill> Hobbsee: i do all my network stuff thru iwconfig now ;o
[09:06] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: hehe nice
[09:06] <ChefWill> i need to make a batch file though
[09:06] <ChefWill> to automate it a bit
[09:07] <fatejudger> join #ubuntu+1
[09:07] <fatejudger> I hate it when I do that...
[09:08] <min> can 8ijI just leave the monitor name as fujisu?
[09:18] <Hobbsee> away_bernd: please turn that away message off
[09:20] <KuLover> What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?
[09:20] <Melchiorre> fglrx
[09:21] <farous> KuLover: the best driver for ati they are all bad lol. but i prefer the opensource ones
[09:21] <Melchiorre> KuLover: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:21] <Melchiorre> Depends if you want to run 3d games or not...
[09:22] <KuLover> I agree,, they are all bad. I was hoping there was somthing better than fglex
[09:22] <KuLover> I have problems wile running x applications
[09:22] <KuLover> I do play 3d games
[09:22] <KuLover> PlanesSHift is one of them
[09:22] <KuLover> It need 3D acell
[09:22] <Healot> I play 4D (gambling) :)
[09:22] <Melchiorre> bugger
[09:23] <farous> KuLover: radeon on my card (open source drive) have 3d accel enabled
[09:24] <KuLover> farous, DO you have problems running X applications? Like FrostWire and stuch?
[09:25] <KuLover> My GUI crashed when I try to run things like that
[09:25] <KuLover> ALthough I can still move my mouse
[09:25] <farous> KuLover: nope
[09:25] <farous> KuLover: hmm did you use an xorg.conf file that you configure in breezy?
[09:25] <KuLover> So I guess then fglrx are my only choice ><
[09:26] <KuLover> Im resorting to that now.. I was playing with other drivers and rendered my system un bootablt.. it just hangs on the kubuntu screen after loading
[09:27] <farous> KuLover: you should mostly try ati, radeon or fglrx.
[09:29] <KuLover> ati wont boot :/
[09:29] <KuLover> I have to go back to fglrx i suppose
[09:31] <farous> KuLover: did you change the driver in the xorg.conf file and did you load the ati module in it?
[09:31] <KuLover> Rite now Im seeing if I can actually boot again ><
[09:31] <KuLover> Phew.. I made it!
[09:31] <KuLover> It boots
[09:32] <KuLover> Yeah I tried ATI earlier..
[09:32] <moparisthebest> if I just mount an ntfs partition as read only it cant get corrupted can it?
[09:32] <KuLover> No go for my card :/
[09:41] <min> wee not workking
[09:41] <min> I think I did somethign wrong
[09:42] <min> can u send me the pastebin thing again?
[09:42] <hybrid> !paste
[09:42] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <min> mo
[09:43] <min> someone sent me this pastebin thing where it showed me what to do
[09:43] <hybrid> oh, sorry
[09:43] <hybrid> :p
[09:43] <min> ?
[09:43] <min> lol
[09:44] <min> It got me to a bootscreen where it froze
[09:44] <min> so I had to do ctrl+ f1
[09:45] <min> sigh
[09:45] <min> I give up
[09:45] <min> back to window for me
[09:48] <farous> min can you state your prob again
[09:49] <Wodger> pastbin = http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[09:49] <Wodger> bookmark it?
[09:53] <Hobbsee> Wodger: yes, that's the pastebin
[09:54] <Hobbsee> !apache
[09:54] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:54] <Wodger> heh no that was for min
[09:54] <Hobbsee> cotroler: see ^
[09:55] <cotroler> Hobbsee :)
[10:00] <lubcho> can someone tell me how to create a shorcut for terminal command
[10:00] <lubcho> cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/
[10:01] <lubcho> and after that to execute command wine DictionDe.exe
[10:01] <lubcho> i tried with
[10:01] <lubcho> a shorcut
[10:01] <lubcho> command
[10:01] <lubcho> cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/
[10:01] <lubcho> & wine DictionDE.exe
[10:02] <lubcho> but the terminal stops with error msg
[10:02] <lubcho> cd .wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Gaberoff\ Koral/Gaberoff\ Koral\ German\ Dictionary\ 1.0/
[10:02] <lubcho> & wine DictionDE.exe
[10:02] <lubcho> ops
[10:02] <lubcho> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `&'
[10:02] <lubcho> /bin/sh: -c: line 1: `& wine DictionDE.exe '
[10:03] <Hobbsee> !paste
[10:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:03] <Hobbsee> !enter
[10:03] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[10:03] <Hobbsee> wrong command, first time
[10:03] <Hobbsee> !symlink
[10:03] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:03] <Hobbsee> hmm ok
[10:07] <scheuri> hi all
[10:08] <cotroler> hi scheuri
[10:13] <lubcho> Anyone  can give me an idea how to fix it
[10:13] <lubcho> im sure its a minor failture
[10:13] <Healot> fix whut?
[10:13] <lubcho> this minor shorcut
[10:13] <lubcho> error
[10:14] <lubcho>  how to link 2 commands
[10:14] <omeow> lubcho: Surely there are German dictionaries on the web? :)
[10:14] <lubcho> like 1st cd and then wine app.exe
[10:14] <lubcho> omeow: They are... but not bg-de de-bg :)
[10:14] <omeow> bg being Bulgarian?
[10:15] <lubcho> Yep :)
[10:15] <omeow> Ok, can you explain to me what it is you're trying to archive?
[10:15] <Healot> &&
[10:15] <Healot> cd && wine
[10:15] <omeow> *achieve
[10:16] <lubcho> dual?
[10:16] <omeow> Oh seperating commands.
[10:16] <omeow> You could also do cd ; wine or cd | wine
[10:18] <lubcho> aha... just a sec to try
[10:19] <lubcho> nope
[10:19] <lubcho> not working bash.sh -c still prints syntax error :(
[10:20] <lubcho> some unexpected token
[10:36] <lubcho> yay!
[10:36] <lubcho> working!
[10:36] <lubcho> love you omeow :P
[10:36] <omeow> What did I do?
[10:37] <lubcho> the ; worked with and now it propertly runs and executes the commands
[10:37] <omeow> Oh ok. :) Have fun.
[10:55] <ajayc> hi guys
[10:57] <hsn_> where can i find program for generating otp responses, 331 Response to otp-md5 486 sd0108 ext required ?
[10:58] <starter> hello
[10:58] <starter> I have a problem with kubuntu, after the bbotup sequence, it enters xwindows, I can hear the sound, but the screen goes black
[10:59] <starter> the computer is 2000+ Athlon, GeForce 4 MX440, 256 DDRAM
[10:59] <starter> bootup sequence*
[11:10] <starter> noone alive?
[11:12] <yacek> hello
[11:13] <yacek> when I run applications from console I get this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, how to solve it?
[11:13] <hsn_> its normal, same there
[11:14] <yacek> but why?
[11:14] <edulix> hello kubuntusers :P
[11:14] <edulix> I think I've found a strange error in konqi
[11:14] <starter> uhm... I'll ask one more time
[11:14] <starter> I have a problem with kubuntu, after the bbotup sequence, it enters xwindows, I can hear the sound, but the screen goes black
[11:14] <starter> the computer is 2000+ Athlon, GeForce 4 MX440, 256 DDRAM
[11:15] <edulix> test: enter in http://www.jamendo.com/ and mouseover the links of the tags cloud. most of them don't seem links, but they are
[11:15] <edulix> (btw, I'm using kde 3.5.3)
[11:16] <edulix> hey noone tried? :(
[11:29] <starter> uhm... noone with FeForce 4 MX440?
[11:29] <starter> GeForce
[11:31] <nik> where does kaddressbook save all the data?
[11:37] <edulix> nik: probably somewhere in ~/.kde
[11:37] <edulix> that's where everything goes :P
[11:52] <visik7> I've a usb pendrive
[11:53] <visik7> when I plug in it the kernel see 2 devices
[11:53] <visik7> while there is only one
[11:53] <visik7> why ?
[11:59] <paul_> [dapperdrake]  hi, how can I list disinstalled packages?
[12:00] <nik> edulix: ya...but there is no data :x
[12:00] <nik> only configuration files..
[12:04] <craigaa> Hi All, I am wanting to experiment with and get to know KDE. Am I likely to run into any obvious problems installing the kubuntu-destop meta-package on my production Ubuntu box?
[12:15] <der_daniel> is drapper drake stable, yet?
[12:17] <omeow> craigaa: What kind of problems?
[12:17] <omeow> der_daniel: Yeah, it should be. Haven't had any big problems yet.
[12:19] <der_daniel> thanks, will give it a try then :D
[12:20] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[12:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:22] <paul_> can you list the packages you uninstalled?
[12:22] <omeow> Since when? Since ever?
[12:27] <keyne> paul_: not sure that the best way to do it, but that's how i do it usually: dpkg -l | grep ^r
[12:32] <ajayc> eXCeSS, hi
[12:32] <ajayc> anyone here plays et?
[12:32] <omeow> et phone home
[12:32] <ajayc> Enemy Territory!
[12:33] <omeow> I play Alien Swarm
[12:34] <craigaa> omeow: Sorry, went for a sandwich. I don't know what problems I might encounter. Basically, I would like to know if there are any known gotcha's to installing kde on Ubuntu.
[12:34] <omeow> Uh, not that I know of. As far as I know. It just installs normally.
[12:34] <ajayc> craigaa, not at all
[12:35] <omeow> kubuntu-desktop I think you need.
[12:35] <ajayc> craigaa, but still if u wanna be safe get Kubuntu itself
[12:35] <ajayc> :)
[12:35] <craigaa> ameow, ajayc: Thanks,. I've got to be conservative as this is my work machine and cannot afford the down time.
[12:36] <craigaa> ajayc - Ubuntu Gnome is my working environment, but I want to learn KDE.
[12:36] <ajayc> craigaa, ok so then get kubunu itself
[12:36] <ajayc> use it as livecd
[12:36] <craigaa> hmm.. good point
[12:36] <craigaa> try before you buy ;-)
[12:37] <ajayc> craigaa, u just wanna learn kde?or want KDE on ubuntu?
[12:37] <craigaa> Is there a major difference?
[12:37] <ajayc> can be
[12:37] <ajayc> u can use slac
[12:37] <omeow> I think there is. :)
[12:37] <ajayc> slax
[12:37] <ajayc> it is fast and small
[12:37] <ajayc> to learn KDE
[12:37] <ajayc> :p
[12:37] <ajayc> u dont have to get 695mb
[12:37] <craigaa> hmm, KDE will always be secondary on my box as the internal std is Gnome...
[12:38] <ajayc> get 195 mb
[12:38] <craigaa> but I would like to get to know it ...
[12:38] <ajayc> u can get to know kde from SLAX
[12:38] <craigaa> and there seem to be some really cute kde apps
[12:38] <ajayc> ah
[12:38] <ajayc> get KNOPPIX
[12:38] <keyne> omeow: is there a linux version of Alien Swarm ?
[12:38] <ajayc> :)
[12:38] <ajayc> keyne, www.3dgamers.com
[12:39] <omeow> keyne: Alien Swarm (not infested) is a mod for UT2004 so yeah, it'll run on Linux.
[12:39] <craigaa> ajayc - will look at Kubuntu live and Knoppix - thanks
[12:39] <ajayc> craigaa, no
[12:39] <ajayc> n
[12:39] <ajayc> np*
[12:39] <ajayc> :)
[12:39] <omeow> Alien Swarm Infested will be built for source, and it hasn't been released yet.
[12:39] <craigaa> lol
[12:39] <ajayc> tuxrobot, hi
[12:39] <ajayc> lmao
[12:39] <ajayc> that is my nick on my shell :)
[12:58] <fiyawerx> do you guys prefer kopete or gaim?
[12:58] <omeow> I prefer konversation.
[12:59] <omeow> Instant messaging programs are too attention grabbing.
[01:00] <fiyawerx> especially when you have 250 or so buddies on aim alone that wouldn't be too happy if you just stopped signing on
[01:00] <fiyawerx> which is why i was asking for a comparison :-P
[01:00] <fiyawerx> guess i'll just try'em both
[01:00] <omeow> Yeah.
[01:01] <fiyawerx> just redid a fresh install and am sitting here like ok, what do i do next heh
[01:02] <omeow> fiyawerx: Yeah, once you've got Linux fully installed and working, there's not much to do anymore.
[01:02] <omeow> Can't play games anyway. Might as well break Linux again and start fixing stuff. ;)
[01:02] <fiyawerx> hehe
[01:03] <Lynoure> omeow: There are games for Linux, just not that many
[01:03] <fiyawerx> have to wait till later to get the multimedia working, moved over to my laptop/remote connection, too tired of sitting at the desktop
[01:03] <fiyawerx> oh that reminds me didnt do my video driver yet
[01:03] <Lynoure> ATitD for example is a quite cool multiplayer game
[01:03] <[Nige] > i am running dapper but I cant install gtk2 because of dependancies
[01:03] <[Nige] > what the easiest way to fix this?
[01:04] <fiyawerx> ATitD?
[01:04] <Lynoure> fiyawerx: A Tale in the Desert
[01:04] <fiyawerx> havn't heard of that one
[01:04] <Lynoure> fiyawerx: google can tell you more, or atitd.com
[01:04] <fiyawerx> someone suggested enemy territory
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> Or you can play the neo geo arcade games with advancemame
[01:05] <fiyawerx> can't do much of that over a remote connection tho
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> Is the remote connection windows ?
[01:06] <fiyawerx> win xp laptop running nomachines client to the kubuntu desktop
[01:06] <fiyawerx> i mean i mud and stuff, can set up some mud clients, but eh, not yet
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> There is a version of exceed which allows opengl over a network connection
[01:06] <fiyawerx> thats scary
[01:07] <fiyawerx> i mean i can run glxgears over this and whatnot
[01:07] <fiyawerx> but i get like 30 fps as opposed to 7000 at the desktop
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> But fast enough to use it (Its ment for engineering type programs)
[01:07] <fiyawerx> interesting
[01:07] <fiyawerx> it's prob. meant for high bandwith networks too, altho that'd prob. work on the lan
[01:07] <larsivi_wrk> do anyone know if the svn plugin to eclipse is in the main repositories (and what would it be named)?
[01:07] <h3sp4wn> Its probably also expensive
[01:08] <fiyawerx> we have the newest version of hummingbirds exceed at work
[01:08] <fiyawerx> i never use it tho
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> Exceed 3d is the one you need (never used it though)
[01:09] <fiyawerx> will check it out
[01:10] <fiyawerx> hmm, aha, need firefox
[01:13] <fiyawerx> im loving this yakuake program
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> What does it do ?
[01:14] <fiyawerx> makes a drop down terminal window when you press f12, and then it hides it when you hit f12 again
[01:14] <fiyawerx> can set it to use Konsoles settings by default
[01:14] <h3sp4wn> Is it a kde app though
[01:15] <fiyawerx> yes
[01:15] <fiyawerx> I found it by looking through the "whats new" screenshots on kde.org
[01:16] <fiyawerx> htey call it Konsoles "sly" twin
[01:17] <fiyawerx> http://www.kde.org/screenshots/images/3.5/18-terminal.png
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> I am running it (but it doesn't look like that - but seems pretty good
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> How do you make it start when you login to kde ? - just put it in .kde/Autostart or do you know a better way ?
[01:18] <fiyawerx> hmm, good question
[01:19] <fiyawerx> and if your ight click and go to configure -> use konsole's settings, then do the configure -> set as default, it'll open and look like Konsole
[01:19] <visik7> is normal that flash movies are desynced in konqueror ?
[01:20] <fiyawerx> brb gonna reboot
[01:24] <pussfeller> ever since the upgrade to dapper my computer has been sluggish
[01:24] <pussfeller> getting into the swap all the time
[01:28] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: i rebooted and when x came back up, yakuake is already working
[01:29] <fiyawerx> didn't have to change anything / startup stuff
[01:30] <fiyawerx> ok about to pass out
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> hmmm - does ctrl shift n - work for you properly in yakuake ?
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> (i.e for a new tab)
[01:39] <Chameleon22> i am using cyrus 2.1 with pam auth and sasldb - when i try to connect using cyradmin (cyradm --user cyrus localhost) I get an error: cyradm: cannot authenticate to server as user cyrus. Password appears to be in sasldb2 file and mail log displays the following error: "Jun 27 21:33:58 fatty cyrus/imapd[13599] : badlogin: localhost[127.0.0.1]  DIGEST-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] " any ideas on how to fix that?
[01:39] <Chameleon22>  Googled, checked out cyrus how-to's - no luck...
[01:42] <deuce868> anyone know much about the kpdf package? When I go to print this pdf document it adds a ton of space above and to the right of each page
[01:42] <deuce868> so the printer seems to think it needs legal sized paper to print the document
[01:42] <deuce868> margins are set to 0, paper is set to letter
[01:43] <deuce868> h3sp4wn, yep, it does work for me
[01:43] <dutch> morning
[01:44] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to install the latest Wacom drivers (version 7.4) since every time I use my tablet the stylus is off.  The tip is barely 9 mm from the surface and it starts reacting.  So I need the Xorg sources.  When I look into Adept, it says that I will break my install.  Any ideas on this one?
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> deuce868: I have worked it out (I use ctrl alt n in konsole) so just had to change it from ctrl shift n which it was set to somehow
[01:46] <deuce868> ah, ok
[01:50] <Ertain> I'm trying to build a driver, but when I try to install the xorg-dev pack, it says it'll break my install and it doesn't actually install.  Any ideas on this one?
[01:56] <deuce868> oh well, if I print using lpr and adobe reader instead of kpdf it prints fine so I guess I'm still ok
[02:12] <Ertain> Okay, this is seriously messed up.  I'm trying to build the Wacom drivers and for that I need to install xorg-dev, but it would break my install.  Apparently the packs I have, or at least I'm trying to use are too new.  And manually downloading them won't work, since it needs various other packs for it to work.  Damn dependency hell.
[02:17] <erik__> when trying to rip a CD with KAudioCreator: "Cannot place file, unable to make directories."
[02:18] <h3sp4wn> Ertain: Send the output you get to pastebin.ca (Is it xserver-xorg-dev that you are trying to install ?)
[02:19] <gupta> Me is  getting "Unable to open URL: http://localhost:631/printers" when using hp-toolbox ?
[02:19] <gupta> I can acces it from my browser
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Are you trying to access the cups webinterface ? because its disabled by default in {k}ubuntu
[02:22] <gupta> I can access the webinterface, the problem is I get the above message in konsole when I click a particular message in hp-toolbox.
[02:22] <Ertain> I'm trying to install xserver-xorg-dev, but it requires various packs, like libdrm-dev.  I have no problem installing the various packs, but Adept keeps saying they'll break my install.
[02:22] <gupta> I meant when I click configure in the hp-toolbox
[02:27] <Yusuke`> yo yo
[02:27] <Yusuke`> ^_^
[02:29] <Tommy2k4> hm amarok still playing like a minute after i  closed it
[02:29] <Yusuke`> ubuntu =D
[02:30] <Ryoga85> hi Yusuke`
[02:30] <emonkeylap> Tommy2k4, killall amarok-app
[02:30] <Yusuke`> heya ^_^
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> Ertain: Have you all the repositories enabled ?
[02:31] <h3sp4wn> Ertain: Some parts may be in universe or multiverse
-={{_()()()(g)(H)()()(g) ()()(+) ()()()()_}}=-<>
[02:33] <Ertain> I have changed some of them from universe to multiverse, and back.  Then I update the database and check again.  But they would still be broken.
[02:34] <Ertain> Okay, I think I've got it.
[02:34] <Yusuke`> you have to partition your drives, update your binary's, patch the kernel
[02:34] <Yusuke`> it's just so easy
[02:49] <Darkbyte> Hello, I'm using dapper and I need install php5-dbase package. But I'm not find it. Who I do to found it? Help me please !!!
[02:50] <martynda> Darkbyte: sudo apt-get install php5-dbase
[02:51] <Darkbyte> apt-get install php5-dbase not found the package.
[02:52] <Jack1> hi
[02:52] <martynda> Darkbyte: hmm yeah, what are you trying to do?
[02:52] <martynda> you could open up synaptic and search for php5 and see which package you need
[02:52] <gupta> Darkbyte: just try "aptitude search php"
[02:52] <Jack1> when installing kubuntu 5.10 to a siemens lappie with dualcore centrino i get problems with the x-server
[02:53] <Jack1> no idea what to specify in x-server reconfigurexorg
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: You need dapper for dualcore to work properly
[02:54] <Jack1> hiya
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> hi
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> Why does konqueror say stalled in the status bar when i try to load up /media/network
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> i have a samba share mounted there
[02:54] <Tommy2k4> in /media/network/Emma
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> did you mount the sambashare with mount -t smbfs or smbmount ?
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> i also have a folder called /media/network/Dad which is showing up but i dont have anything mounted there
[02:55] <Jack1> h3sp4wn can i upgrade from the internet without x via apt-get?
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Yes
[02:55] <nixternal> Jack1: yes
[02:55] <nixternal> ;)
[02:55] <Jack1> guys how?
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> it automounts //Emma when i boot up
[02:55] <nixternal> sudo apt-get update
[02:55] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install
[02:55] <davide> hi
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> forgot what file you set that in
[02:55] <nixternal> cuz you will be at a command line if you aren't in X
[02:55] <davide> do you have trouble with kde??
[02:55] <davide> sometimes freez
[02:56] <nixternal> Qt: 3.3.6
[02:56] <nixternal> KDE: 3.5.3
[02:56] <nixternal> kde-config: 1.0
[02:56] <nixternal> i have no problem with kde...it is great
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:56] <davide> me kde 3.5.2
[02:56] <Darkbyte> I try it with apt-get,synaptic and aptitude and not found the package.
[02:56] <Jack1> nixternal  h3sp4wn first update then install right? prob is that i installed a 383 kernel, having only this cd
[02:56] <davide> check the repository
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> h3sp4wn, i have "//Emma/C	/media/network/Emma	smbfs	credentials=/root/.smbcredentials	0	0" in /etc/fstab
[02:56] <nixternal> yes Jack1
[02:57] <nixternal> that way there you loaded the latest repo info into cache
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That command will changes sources.list (the old one will be called sources.list.bak) and then update and upgrade
[02:58] <Jack1> thank u h3sp4wn but i didnt set up the internet during install how do i that from commandline?
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Is it connect by wire or wireless ?
[02:59] <Jack1> wire h3sp4wn
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: dhcp ?
[03:00] <Jack1> h3sp4wn no dont think, dsl with password and username
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: So its not thru a router ?
[03:00] <Jack1> no router afaik
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> Could not resolve mount point /media/network/Emma
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> but when i try to mkdir it says it already exists
[03:01] <Jack1> i got it h3sp4wn sudo pppoeconf
[03:02] <Jack1> h3sp4wn thank u that is right isnt it?
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> Yes
[03:02] <Jack1> pon dsl-provider h3sp4wn
[03:02] <Jack1> thanks so much guys u save me!
[03:04] <Jack1> need to go offline buy guys cu later
[03:09] <vincent> heloooooo room
[03:09] <vincent> :)
[03:09] <GreyBear> Hi
[03:09] <GreyBear> Just did Upgrade, worked great
[03:10] <vincent> awsome Greybear
[03:10] <vincent> ciao
[03:10] <GreyBear> Expected to have to put alot of time into it and it was so easy a Windoze user could do it
[03:14] <Nooreazy> I NEED HELP! PLZ
[03:14] <Nooreazy> installing firefox
[03:15] <jpatrick> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:15] <Nooreazy> kool
[03:17] <emonkeylap> 
[03:18] <Nooreazy> nothing came up
[03:18] <Nooreazy> wierd
[03:18] <Nooreazy> and i cant select fire fox in adept installer
[03:18] <Nooreazy> :'(
[03:18] <GreyBear> I installed mine from the Adept Package manager
[03:18] <Nooreazy> lol i cant even select mine
[03:19] <Hobbsee> Nooreazy: why cant you select it?
[03:19] <GreyBear> can you select anything else there?
[03:19] <Nooreazy> dunno
[03:19] <Nooreazy> yea
[03:19] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:19] <lubcho> saluit
[03:20] <GreyBear> don't know
[03:20] <Nooreazy> when is search fire fox it comes up but its just gray and i cant select it
 don't know THX any way
[03:22] <Nooreazy> so is there a manual way i can install it?
[03:23] <Nooreazy> i downloaded the firefox pacage but i dont know witch file is the installer
[03:23] <Nooreazy> package*
[03:24] <Hobbsee> !firefox1.5
[03:24] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[03:27] <Nooreazy> thx i'm checking it out
[03:28] <Tommy2k4> erm
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> ew kde crashed
[03:29] <Tommy2k4> well, kicker did
[03:29] <Jack1> h3sp4wn hi ; i get w:couldtnt stat source package list cdrom//ubuntu 5.10 dapper Badger; some index files failed to download, they have been replaced or old ones used instead
[03:29] <spike> hi there
[03:29] <spike> can anybody help me with kmail and imap? I cant find out how to write filters for it
[03:29] <spike> no probs with pop, but cant work out imap
[03:30] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it says failed to fetch cdrom..
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That shouldn't make any difference (you don't need the cdrom)
[03:30] <raul> can anybody help im havin problem with amarok it doesnt play. It just builds up the playlist everytime i play
[03:30] <deuce868> spike, check out imapfilter . Great little package to do that stuff with regardless of mail client
[03:30] <Hobbsee> raul: got libxine-extracodecs installed?
[03:30] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: You can remove the line from /etc/apt/sources.list if you like (just put a # infront of it)
[03:31] <Jack1> h3sp4wn but it doesnt seem to download...
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Is the internet connection working ?
[03:31] <spike> deuce868: well, I spose I can do that with procmail then, point was doing it with kmail. dont get why it doesnt give access to imap folders from the filter screen
[03:32] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it said it would be online right away so i didnt reboot, maybe i should have right?
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Try ping 194.112.32.1 (see if you get a reply)
[03:33] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: If it is not working now I don't think a reboot would fix it
[03:34] <raul> thanx Hobbsee i didnt have libxine.. installed
[03:35] <Vexmaster> hello again
[03:35] <Hobbsee> raul: :)
[03:35] <Vexmaster> has anyone had trouble getting firefox on the main menu?
[03:36] <MilhousePunkRock> Hi everyone!
[03:36] <Vexmaster> hi milhouse!
[03:37] <MehAdult> Morning guys
[03:37] <MilhousePunkRock> How can I add a menu to the taskbar?
[03:37] <MilhousePunkRock> Like the system menu that is already there by default...
[03:41] <MehAdult> MilhousePunkRock: wish i knew
[03:41] <Hobbsee> MilhousePunkRock: right click on kicker, add applet to panel, pick applet
[03:41] <Hobbsee> or app, if you prefer
[03:42] <MilhousePunkRock> But I don't want an applet or application, I want a menu, just like the system menu
[03:44] <LiquidNerd_work> edgy  pooped my kdm :(
[03:47] <gupta> Anybody knnows which is the spooler directory? Like in windows it is windows/system32/spool or something
[03:47] <GreyBear> bk
[03:48] <gupta> Basically I want to cancel the print jobs and canceling from kcontrol isn't working
[03:48] <LiquidNerd_work> gupta: I believe it's set in the cupsys config.. I think mine is normally in /tmp
[03:49] <apokryphos> !ops
[03:49] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, or robotgeek
[03:49] <apokryphos> ta-da
[03:49] <gupta> LiquidNerd_work: K, I'll look around thanks
[03:49] <Hobbsee> apokryphos: nice.
[03:50] <Riddell> apokryphos: cool
[03:50] <Nooreazy> danm it!
[03:50] <Nooreazy> theres 2 adept manegers
[03:50] <Nooreazy> Firefox is hard to install
[03:50] <Nooreazy> !!!
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!
[03:50] <MehAdult> lol
[03:50] <imbrandon> apokryphos, im missing ;)
[03:50] <MehAdult> Nooreazy: It's simple, just sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:50] <MilhousePunkRock> nooreazy Why? Even I managed that on my first day with Linux...
[03:50] <apokryphos> imbrandon: add yourself 8)
[03:50] <MehAdult> Make sure your repos are set up :)
[03:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:50] <imbrandon> hehe
[03:51] <Nooreazy> yea but the sudo command when i do it nothing comes up
[03:51] <MilhousePunkRock> With more noobish questions, of course...
[03:52] <LiquidNerd_work> Nooreazy: probably because you don't have the right repository setup.. whcih version are you running of Ubuntu?
[03:52] <Nooreazy> brb i need some music "pandora.com"
[03:52] <Nooreazy> 6.06LTS
[03:53] <visik7> how can I get zeroconf properly installed/configured ?
[03:54] <cox377> has anyone here managed to get hotmail working with the likes of thunderbird?
[03:54] <cox377> !hotmail
[03:54] <ubotu> If you must use this microsoft product, consider hotway: hotwayd/hotsmtpd are POP3/SMTP-HTTPMail gateway daemons, also works for lycos spray and msn
[03:55] <imbrandon> !ops
[03:55] <ubotu> Riddell, haggai, amu, imbrandon, Hobbsee
[03:59] <visik7> Failed to publish this new service to the network (ZeroConf). The server will work fine without this, however. <- how can I fix it ?
[04:06] <Tommy2k4> i need a wma > mp3 converter
[04:06] <Jack1> hi
[04:06] <Tommy2k4> (dont bother suggesting ogg)
[04:07] <jpatrick> lame
[04:08] <Jack1> h3sp4wn sudo perl -pi.bak -e 's/breezy/dapper/i' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is this definitely right? CAUSE IT seems not to replace the sources list, saying reading package list..done, building dependency tree..done, calculating upgrade..done...then: 0 upgraded, 0 removed, 0 newly installed..btw internet works now..
[04:08] <gioacchino> cioa
[04:09] <gioacchino> ciao
[04:09] <gioacchino> hello
[04:09] <Jack1> h3sp4wn i did that as root via sudo -s cause it reported a lock somewhere before in case thats important
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Can you use vim ?
[04:09] <gioacchino> hoe to make install floppy of kubuntu _
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: sudo vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:10] <gioacchino> how to make install floppy of kubuntu _
[04:10] <Jack1> h3sp4wn shall i turn off the root and use sudo?
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: go back as root but use sudo -i (not sudo -s)
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: then vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:12] <cox377> i've juust installed hotway and restarted KDE now i cant find it, u guys got any ideas?
[04:12] <hanspeter> hi there! is there a known fix for the libc6 bug in edgy??
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Scroll with the arrows to the line with the cdrom in it and press dd (d twice) - to remove that line
[04:12] <gioacchino> how to make install floppy of kubuntu?
[04:13] <hanspeter> or a tip to whoch version i should downgrade?
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Then move to the all the lines with # infront of them and delete them just by pressing x
[04:13] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it says in the beginning: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _dapper BAdger ...main restricted..thats it right?
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Are you in vim ?
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: press dd on that line and it will delete it
[04:14] <Jack1> i entered your command h3sp4wn so i guess i am i see the sources.list right now
[04:14] <Jack1> h3sp4wn worked now deleting the hash marked lines
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Just by using x ?
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: You only want to remove the # not the full line
[04:16] <Jack1> h3sp4wn yes
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: once you have finished doing that type
[04:16] <Jack1> h3sp4wn fuck i stayed too long and now its half removed
[04:16] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: press u until it comes back
[04:18] <Jack1> h3sp4wn is the space between beginning of line and deb httpp important? shall i remove the space too?
[04:18] <gioacchino> how to make install floppy of kubuntu?
[04:18] <gioacchino> how to make install floppy of kubuntu?
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: I would remove the space but I don't know whether it makes a difference
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: There is a post on the forums about how someone did it for breezy
[04:19] <Tommy2k4> how do i install realplayer? it says i need xlibs but xlibs wont install
[04:19] <Jack1> h3sp4wn i leave the ## where it specifies the comments as they are , am finished now
 url please
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: I don't have it look yourself
[04:19] <gioacchino> url of forum no of post
[04:20] <Nooreazy> back i just found out that i dont even have firefox in my kubuntu
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:20] <Jack1> h3sp4wn i should the two lines space in the beginning too right?
[04:20] <Nooreazy> but i still have the cd and i went to Programs>firefox>firefox.exe what should i open it with?
[04:20] <Nooreazy> the exe file?
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: just do :wq
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: and it should quit and be saved the file
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: You need to type the colon
[04:21] <gioacchino> Nooreazy: use sudo apt-get upgrade                and sudo apt update
[04:21] <Jack1> h3sp4wn
[04:21] <Jack1> ok
[04:21] <gioacchino> the firefox in cd id fo windows no for linux
[04:22] <Nooreazy> oh ok
[04:22] <robotgeek> gioacchino: sudo apt-get install firefox
[04:22] <Nooreazy> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: then try apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:23] <Tommy2k4> is realplayer for linux any good
[04:23] <Tommy2k4> the one for windows is bloated crap
[04:23] <Jack1> ok thank you h3sp4wn are u later here? i need to go out off the irc for that
[04:24] <Nooreazy> "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)E: Unable to lock the list directory"
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Does the file only mention dapper now ?
[04:24] <Nooreazy> happens for both of them :'(
[04:24] <slow-motion> bbl monitor test
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: The only important line in the whole file is deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted multiverse universe (or similar according to county
[04:25] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it says that in the repository address eg dapper universe
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: dapper main (is the most important one)
[04:26] <Jack1> h3sp4wn i got main restricted
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That will be fine
[04:26] <sbriscoe> Is there a way to get the Wireless Assistant to support WPA-SPK?
[04:27] <robotgeek> sbriscoe: maybe try knetworkmanager
[04:27] <gioacchino> Download these floppy images from [WWW]  http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/pre-rc2/floppy/ ( [WWW]  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ ):
[04:27] <gioacchino> the link on the site
[04:27] <gioacchino> are broken..
[04:28] <Jack1> h3sp4wn and universe thensecurity and updates and backports but when i get x i can easily edit that
[04:28] <Jack1> h3sp4wn thank u and goodbye
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That should be ok if the dist-upgrade doesn't start this time come back and I will try a different way
[04:29] <Jack1> oki h3sp4wn bybye
[04:30] <Tommy2k4> can i play a file using xine straight from console?
[04:30] <gioacchino> Download these floppy images from [WWW]  http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/pre-rc2/floppy/ ( [WWW]  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ ):
[04:30] <gioacchino> the link on the site
[04:30] <gioacchino> are broken..
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: Video or audio ?
[04:31] <Tommy2k4> audio
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: aaxine maybe
[04:31] <gioacchino> what`s the right link ?
[04:31] <Tommy2k4> command not found
[04:31] <moparisthebest> hey Tommy2k4 :)
[04:31] <Tommy2k4> eww
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> Tommy2k4: I think it might be part of xine-ui
[04:32] <Tommy2k4> xine-ui command not found
[04:32] <moparisthebest> when I try to run adept it says apt-get or aptitude are already running and it cant start up
[04:32] <moparisthebest> but they arent running
[04:32] <moparisthebest> any ideas?
[04:33] <sbriscoe_> check your processes, and kill it if it's running
[04:33] <Tommy2k4> moparisthebest linux newb plz
[04:34] <Lynoure> That questions comes up a lot. Is there some FAQ for this channel?
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: yeah, it was in teh topic...
[04:35] <Lynoure> Oh, blind me :)
[04:35] <Hobbsee> grr.
[04:36] <adem> hallo zusammen
 I don`t found the istall fromfloppy on the forum please help me
[04:36] <adem> ich bin neuling in Kubuntu und habe auch vorher nie Linux benutzt
[04:36] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: the FAQ leads to something that looks more like a general introduction to ubuntu rather than commonly asked questions here
[04:36] <oem_> can someone tell me where i can find windows codecs for ubuntu6.06
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: I don't know how to do it off the top of my head
[04:37] <adem> ich habe einige Probleme
[04:37] <jpatrick> !de
[04:37] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:37] <adem> mit WLAN 128 bit Verschlsslung, das funktioniert nicht
[04:37] <silfer> can someone tell me where i can find windows codecs for ubuntu6.06
[04:37] <Hobbsee> !codecs
[04:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:37] <adem> ok
[04:37] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to mount a secondary ext3 partition, what options should I designate?
[04:37] <silfer> thnx
[04:38] <gioacchino> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[04:38] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: Do you kow if ubutu content are somewhere on the web?
[04:38] <gioacchino> the link of img floppy are broke
[04:38] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: s/kow/know
[04:38] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: um, what in particular?
[04:38] <gioacchino> you know the corect link ?
[04:38] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: All. They'd make a pretty good FAQ
[04:39] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: what, wiki.ubuntu.com?  it's already there, just most people dont look.  and its' badly organised.
[04:39] <Kr4t05> !tell me about ext3
[04:39] <robotgeek> help.ubuntu.com has all you will probably need
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: That page seems very old sarge is released now
[04:40] <robotgeek> Lynoure: its even in your help menu :)
[04:40] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: The bot has answer to very many questions, but reading them in FAQ form would be handier. Or do you mean it just looks things up from wiki?
[04:40] <Tommy2k4> moparisthebest, u have msn?
[04:40] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: the bot has a list of all the stuff it knows, Seveas knows the link.
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> Is there a version of the wiki in text format ?
[04:40] <Lynoure> robotgeek: hmm? what is? My ex-bf complained I don't come with a help menu =)
[04:41] <robotgeek> Lynoure: the FAQ you asked for
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: the common questions link seems pretty relevant.  people just dont read it though
[04:41] <moparisthebest> yes Tommy2k4 but im never on it :P
[04:41] <Tommy2k4> newb
[04:42] <min> I have a question
[04:42] <Tommy2k4> what ircs do you go to these days
 wat`s is the new pages ?
[04:42] <moparisthebest> i searched on the wiki and common questions but i cant find anything on my problems or on how to kill processes
[04:42] <Tommy2k4> sudo killall adept
[04:42] <moparisthebest> this one, #kaitnieks, and #sythe Tommy2k4
[04:42] <Tommy2k4> what server #kaitnieks?
[04:42] <Lynoure> robotgeek: but what help menu? (I'm on debian at the moment, console, no help menus)
[04:42] <robotgeek> moparisthebest: killall programname
[04:42] <moparisthebest> irc.codestream.org Tommy2k4
[04:42] <min> yea
[04:42] <min> Im on two monitors
[04:43] <robotgeek> Lynoure: oh, K-Menu -> Help has the desktop guide
[04:43] <moparisthebest> it says no process killed
 how to found the new pages ?
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> try apt-get
[04:43] <moparisthebest> any way i can see the processes running?
[04:43] <Kr4t05> moparisthebest: Try passing "top" in the command line.
[04:43] <robotgeek> moparisthebest: what are you trying to kill
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> moparisthebest,  ctrl + escape
[04:43] <moparisthebest> somthing to let adept run
[04:44] <Lynoure> robotgeek: but that probably does not answer the common questions on this channel, like the daily "why won't my apt or adept run?". But I could be wrong and then I'd have to be impressed.
[04:44] <John-Z> hrmm.
[04:44] <robotgeek> moparisthebest: sudo killall apt-get , sudo killall dpkg
[04:44] <ne78> Is keytouch packaged in kubuntu ?
 how to found the new pages ?
 how to found the new pages ?
[04:44] <robotgeek> Lynoure: actually, not directly. but the information is actually present in the adept chapter of the guide
[04:44] <John-Z> Has anyone had a problem where if they setup dual screens and have a high resolution on each, that NONE of their terminal programs (xterm, konsole, yakuake) will not load.. they begin to open the crash immediately?
[04:44] <min> and one of them is broken and the other one's working fine but the screen resolution is way too small. I need to make the reso 1280x1024?
[04:45] <min> yea thats me
[04:45] <gioacchino> please help me
[04:45] <min> but I have a low reso on each
[04:45] <John-Z> weird.
[04:45] <John-Z> Just started happening today.
[04:45] <min> one of my monitor is broken
[04:45] <min> and the other one
[04:45] <Lynoure> robotgeek: cool
[04:45] <min> I need to make it 1280x1024
[04:45] <robotgeek> min, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:45] <Kr4t05> John-Z, haven't had this problem, and I run TwinView with a total res of 2560x1024
[04:45] <min> I tried that
[04:45] <moparisthebest> niether of those processes are rrrrrrrrrrrrrunning
[04:46] <min> it only registers one monitor into xorg.conf
[04:46] <Kr4t05> Atleast, I think.
[04:46] <moparisthebest> damn, and now some keys are sticking like that :(
[04:46] <gatekeeper> min kate comes with a terminal, what happens if you use that?
[04:46] <John-Z> it crashes.
[04:46] <min> robotgeek:  it only registers one monitor into xorg.conf. Im on a laptop. The laptop monitor is busted so Im using an external monitor but the screen reso is incredibly small
[04:46] <John-Z> every terminal, same problem here.
[04:47] <robotgeek> min: hmm, sorry but i'm extremely weak with stuff like this
[04:47] <min> robotgeek: I dont know what to change in the xorg.conf file
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: Remove the end part and browse for it
[04:47] <min> robotgeek: Maybe u can help me?
[04:47] <robotgeek> min: maybe look at help.ubuntu.com/community
[04:48] <min> is that the forums?
[04:48] <min> noone answers
[04:48] <[BU] Brizz> how come one of my repositories always takes a million years to respond or never responds at all?
[04:48] <robotgeek> min: no, try looking for guides on the wiki
[04:49] <min> thw wiki only has guides for ubuntu Im on kubuntu. MAybe cna you change the ubuntu commands into kubuntu commands?
[04:49] <min> %can
[04:49] <robotgeek> min: yes, the basic commands should be same. i also heard about some module in System Settings
[04:49] <[BU] Brizz> most of the ubuntu stuff works in kubuntu too
[04:49] <min> o
[04:49] <min> because I tried it
[04:50] <gatekeeper> min: I frequently use the ubuntu guides, kubuntu is ubuntu with a KDE front end
[04:50] <robotgeek> K-Menu -> System Settings or so
[04:50] <min> and some of the commands didnt work
[04:50] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:   thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[04:50] <min> ok
[04:50] <min> wait
[04:50] <v3ctor> the underlying stuff comes from the same repos
[04:50] <v3ctor> difference is kde/gnome
[04:50] <min> I tried this but it doesnt work
[04:50] <min> sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[04:50] <[BU] Brizz> maybe those aren't installed
[04:51] <min> I see
[04:51] <min> ty
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: You need to be careful or you will end up just installing debian sarge
[04:51] <[BU] Brizz> sometimes if a command doesn't work you should try sudo apt-get install on it
[04:51] <min> sudo apt-get install 855resolution
[04:51] <min> this doesnt work
[04:51] <min> couldnt find pacage 855resolution
[04:52] <robotgeek> min: hold up
[04:52] <min> k
[04:52] <[BU] Brizz> sudo apt-get install ddcprobe
[04:52] <min> ty
[04:52] <[BU] Brizz> actually
[04:52] <[BU] Brizz> xresprobe
[04:52] <min> couldnt find package dccprobe
[04:52] <robotgeek> min: ddcprobe
[04:52] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:  how to burn the im file on floppy ?
[04:52] <robotgeek> min: also try, sudo apt-get install xresprobe
[04:53] <gatekeeper> min: what happens if you launch kate (text editor)
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino:  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/path/tofloppy/floppy.img
[04:53] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:   thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
[04:54] <min> I alredy have the latest version of xrespobe and yes kate loads fine except I dont have permission to edit the xorg.conf file. dccprobe shows me a bunch of numbers but at the end it says
[04:54] <min> mode: 1280x1024x16m
[04:54] <min> edid:
[04:54] <min> edidfail
[04:54] <min> it says edidfail
[04:55] <Tommy2k4> brazillian national anthem sux plz
[04:55] <robotgeek> !tell Tommy2k4 about coc
[04:55] <Tommy2k4> sowwy :(
[04:56] <min> !coc
[04:56] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[04:57] <gatekeeper> min: kate comes with a terminal that is why I suggested using it, to edit xorg.conf file select Run Command... -> kdesu kate xorg.conf use kate or whatever text editor you want
[04:58] <min> yea I know but I dont know what to put into the xorg.conf file
[04:59] <moparisthebest> has anyoneeeeeeeeeeeee ever had that problem <
[04:59] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:59] <gioacchino> I restart the pc and reinstall kubuntu!!!
[04:59] <moparisthebest> randomly my keys repeat each other
[04:59] <gioacchino> thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:59] <min> I did that
[04:59] <LiquidNerd_work_> and?
[04:59] <min> in only configures one of my monitors to xorg.conf
[04:59] <min> but Ill try it anyways
[04:59] <LiquidNerd_work_> moparisthebest: probably bad keyboard
[04:59] <LiquidNerd_work_> is it a laptop?
[04:59] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: are you ding dual monitors?
[05:00] <min> yea
[05:00] <LiquidNerd_work_> ahh
[05:00] <min> on on a laptop
[05:00] <min> and the one attatched to laptop is busted
[05:00] <LiquidNerd_work_> I had that setup once too
[05:00] <min> so Im using external but then the reso is too small
[05:00] <min> *external monitor
[05:00] <cox377> Hi all, right i've just logged into Root and realised tha all ports are open there, how do i go about opening ports under a normal account?
[05:00] <Tommy2k4> ghana are gonna get owned so badly off brazil :(
[05:01] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: so the display is showing on the external monitor, but the resolution is too high?
[05:01] <min> no
[05:01] <min> the resolution is too low its 640x280 I need to make it 1280x1024
[05:01] <LiquidNerd_work_> ahh
[05:01] <LiquidNerd_work_> okay
[05:02] <min> so cna u help me?
[05:02] <LiquidNerd_work_> so you see the Section "Screen" part that's relating to your external monitor in xorg.conf?
[05:02] <v3ctor> when i plug a monitor into my laptop, it always uses the res of my laptop screen
[05:03] <min> acutally
[05:03] <min> theres only one monitor in xorg.conf and I think it might be the one thats attached ot the laptop
[05:04] <min> and I get the error message when I do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:04] <min> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[05:04] <min>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060627110118
[05:04] <moparisthebest> LiquidNerd_work_: its not a bad keyboard because it worked last night (6 houuuuuuuuuuuurs ago)
[05:04] <Tommy2k4> hahahaha rofl 1-0 to brazil] 
[05:05] <Tommy2k4> <5mins
[05:05] <moparisthebest> and the keys repeat the same number of times everytime :S
[05:05] <min> anyone?
[05:09] <gioacchino> the
[05:10] <gioacchino> idstallation as failed...
[05:10] <gioacchino> it tell me
[05:10] <gioacchino> remove support and pres enter to reboot
[05:10] <min> I get this error message when I try to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg.
[05:10] <min> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[05:10] <min>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20060627111006
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> thats not an error
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> what were you expecting when you tried to reconfigure xorg.conf?
[05:11] <min> wait is that suppsoed to come up?
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> yes
[05:11] <min> o
[05:11] <min> so it did work?
[05:12] <Tommy2k4> its just telling you that its gonna overwrite your current one, and save your current one to that backup with todays date on
[05:12] <min> k ty
[05:13] <Tommy2k4> that doesnt necessarily mean it worked though
[05:13] <Tommy2k4> after that you should see a setup screen?
[05:15] <min> nope
[05:15] <min> editing the xorg.conf did nothing
[05:15] <min> It only added on of my monitors
[05:16] <min> can someone help?
[05:18] <min> wait tommy
[05:18] <min> after that the setup screen doesnt come up
[05:18] <min> it stops at the warning message
[05:18] <Tommy2k4> hm
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> im sure mine showed lots of setup screens
[05:19] <min> so whats the problem?
[05:19] <min> after the overwrite thing it stops
[05:20] <min> and when I did it before that error thing never came up
[05:21] <min> and in my xorg.conf file only my broken monitor is added not my external one
[05:21] <min> cna u tell me what to put in there for the external one?
[05:22] <min> http://pastebin.com/732656
[05:25] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: when you do lspci do you have 2 video adapters or 1?
[05:25] <om_> i've been a kubuntu user for a week now and i must say that i am in love with it! i shouldn't have waited this long to try it...
[05:25] <sbriscoe> Same here
[05:26] <Tommy2k4> my kubuntu stopped crashing since i changed my screen to 16bit / 1024x768
[05:26] <om_> except for the occasional X crash caused by amarok =)
[05:26] <Tommy2k4> which is good in a way but it makes my eyes bleed :(
[05:26] <min> wait
[05:26] <sbriscoe> my resolution is at 1600x1200
[05:27] <min> Im not that crazy about kubuntu right now
[05:27] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: when you do lspci do you have 2 video adapters or 1?
[05:27] <sbriscoe> linux is only as good as it's user
[05:27] <min> wait
[05:27] <min> i dont know
[05:27] <min> cna I paste it on the pastebin?
[05:27] <LiquidNerd_work_> sure
[05:27] <min> k wait
[05:28] <om_> anybody else has this weird amarok bug where at the bottom left it has some trimmed HTML code? it's really weird.. i just ignore it
[05:29] <LiquidNerd_work_> om_: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[05:29] <min> LiquidNerd_work_:  why is pastebin laggin so much
[05:29] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: not sure.. not my page
[05:30] <om_> LiquidNerd_work_: i tried.. i upgraded from 1.3.9 to version 1.4.1beta... still same
[05:30] <LiquidNerd_work_> interesting
[05:30] <LiquidNerd_work_> what does it look like?
[05:31] <om_> and now something else.. the four small destop boxes on the taskbars all became empty.. they stopped showing me the little application things.. yeah.. kubuntu is weird sometimes
[05:31] <om_> let me take a screen shot i guess.. 1sec
[05:31] <min> LiquidNerd_work_: Pastebinm is down so I pasted on to here http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=116354#116354
[05:32] <LiquidNerd_work_> om_: right click on the pager, select pager options, make sure Window Thumbnails and Window Icons are checked
[05:32] <min> LiquidNerd_work_: Pastebinm is down so I pasted on to here http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=116354#116354
[05:32] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500] 
[05:33] <LiquidNerd_work_> looks like you only have 1 video card
[05:33] <min> o
[05:33] <moparisthebest> is there anywaaaaaaaaaaay to get a clean rebootttttttttttttt sinceeeeeeeeeeeeeee i have obviously messed somthing up?????????????
[05:33] <min> I think my monitors are attatched to one video card
[05:33] <min> LiquidNerd_work_: and if it isnt, how would I add the other one?
[05:34] <LiquidNerd_work_> well it is showing up
[05:34] <LiquidNerd_work_> otherwise you wouldn't be looking at anything
[05:34] <moparisthebest> I dont know wwwwwwwwwwwwwwhy my keys are repeating llike thisssssssssssss, I dont mean too :(
[05:34] <min> yea its showing
[05:34] <min> but I cant change the reso lution thats my problem
[05:34] <LiquidNerd_work_> moparisthebest: are you holding the keys too long?
[05:34] <min> it looks really ugly :)
[05:34] <moparisthebest> nope
[05:34] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: yeah.. hmmm
[05:35] <moparisthebest> its the same number of repetitions everytime
[05:35] <LiquidNerd_work_> moparisthebest: is your computer slow?
[05:35] <min> o ye ahere sthe pastebin btw
[05:35] <om_> what's the command to show my current IP address?
[05:35] <moparisthebest> it has worked fine the last few days
[05:35] <min> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/733229
[05:35] <min> ifconfig
[05:35] <min> sudo ifconfig
[05:35] <moparisthebest> but now alot ooooooooooooof things arent working :P
[05:35] <om_> thanks!
[05:35] <min> np
[05:35] <Lynoure> min: in kubuntu there is a bug that causes problems if you try to use the System Settings for changing resolution.
[05:35] <min> crap
[05:35] <moparisthebest> is there any way to get aaaaaaaaaaaaa clean reboot?
[05:36] <moparisthebest> like where it doesnt save your session?
[05:36] <moparisthebest> and just loads everything freshly?
[05:36] <LiquidNerd_work_> moparisthebest: rm -rf ~/.kde
[05:36] <Lynoure> The configuration file edited way too meavily, making return to the old resolution impossible by using the same GUI
[05:36] <Lynoure> (but yes, I have files a but on this already)
[05:36] <min> Lynoureso how owuld I fix this bug? I tried to chaneg using system settings
[05:37] <Lynoure> min: did your original configuration have the right resolution
[05:37] <Lynoure> ?
[05:37] <LiquidNerd_work_> min: try "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall
[05:37] <min> no it didnt. It never had right reso
[05:37] <cox377> does anyone here use guarddog or some other firewall?
[05:38] <LiquidNerd_work_> or move the xorg.conf to a temp place and rune "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:38] <min> k
[05:38] <min> wait
[05:38] <min> its installing or something
[05:39] <min> ok it said setting up xserver-org and it finished
[05:39] <LiquidNerd_work_> out of curiosity, after you make changes to xorg.conf, are you rebooting X?
[05:39] <min> yea
[05:39] <min> ctrl alt backspace?
[05:39] <LiquidNerd_work_> yeah
[05:39] <LiquidNerd_work_> k
[05:39] <min> k
[05:40] <min> ok what do I do now?
[05:40] <min> the sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg --reinstall thing finished
[05:40] <Ertain> I'm having troubles with my Wacom tablet not working properly.  It draws even when the stylus is a centimeter above the drawing area.  Does anyone know of a Wacom chat room?  I tried #wacom but that didn't work.
[05:40] <LiquidNerd_work> min: hmmm... paste your xorg.conf file in it's entirety
[05:41] <min> k
[05:41] <LiquidNerd_work> (in a pastebin)
[05:42] <min> k its going
[05:42] <LiquidNerd_work> going where?
[05:43] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg
[05:43] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: that's the screen shot of the amarok bug
[05:43] <om_> look at the bottom left....
[05:43] <min> the pastebin is going
[05:43] <reSpawn> hi
[05:43] <LiquidNerd_work> it's not connecting
[05:44] <reSpawn> I got 3 eths, and I use PPPOE on one of it.
[05:44] <min> ok pastebin is not connecting
[05:44] <min> http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=332934#p332934
[05:44] <reSpawn> PPPOE created 3 ppoe's so I got 3 ips now, lol
[05:44] <reSpawn> I have ppp0,ppp1,ppp2
[05:44] <reSpawn> any ideea how can I add some more :P ?
[05:44] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: really? damn apache.. im not sure how to fix this... it works for me when i type http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg
[05:44] <min> LiquidNerd_work: pastebin http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=332934#p332934
[05:45] <jpatrick> http://bash.org/?660109
[05:45] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: are you behind a router?
[05:45] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: not that i am aware of... not external anyhow and i didnt install anything..
[05:45] <LiquidNerd_work> min: strange.. everything looks fine.. other than the refresh rates may not be correct.. hard to say really
[05:46] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: dcc it to me
[05:46] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: i get something about not being registered.. i have to register i guess
[05:46] <min> but only one monitor is stated on the xor.conf isnt it?
[05:46] <LiquidNerd_work> yeah
[05:46] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: odd
[05:47] <min> *xorg.conf
[05:47] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: I can't connect to port 80
[05:47] <LiquidNerd_work> but I can ping you
[05:47] <Szczepan> My mobile phone number is  +48 692 513 441 !!!!!! please call for me!!!   (it's polish number) ;)
[05:48] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: anything i can do to check where the problem is?
[05:48] <om_> i have to change my nick =( it's already registered
[05:48] <LiquidNerd_work> well you can connect to it, and you have apache installed.. if you do ifconfig, what ip do you have?
[05:48] <reSpawn> !help
[05:48] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:49] <sbriscoe> I have a strange monitor issue too. I have kubuntu on my laptop, with a second monitor attached. When I setup each monitor individually, everything is fine. But when I configure for dual screens, one monitor will be fine while the other will have that scrolling display (where you move the mouse to the left corner and it scrolls to the left, visa versa)
[05:49] <min> LiquidNerd_work: Only one monitor is in the xorg.conf file. How would I add the other one so I cna dual them?
[05:49] <mr-roadster> how can i make an bootdisk for m ubuntu?
[05:49] <reSpawn> !kde
[05:49] <min> yea
[05:49] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:49] <min> exactly
[05:49] <reSpawn> !search kde
[05:49] <mr-roadster> !bootdisk
[05:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootdisk
[05:49] <min> except my screen reso is incredibly small
[05:49] <cox377> anyone here use guarddog?
[05:49] <reSpawn> how can I update my kde to kde 3.5.3 ?
[05:49] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: the ip i gave you.. 87.69.69.13
[05:50] <reSpawn> !find kde upgrade
[05:50] <ubotu> Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-i18n-af, kde-i18n-ar (and 380 others)
[05:50] <LiquidNerd_work> min: can yoru laptop even do dual screens?
[05:50] <reSpawn> !find kde 3.5.3
[05:50] <ubotu> Found: atlantikdesigner, gettext-kde, kde-core, kde-i18n-af, kde-i18n-ar (and 380 others)
[05:50] <LiquidNerd_work> I've seen many that can't
[05:50] <reSpawn> :(
[05:50] <reSpawn> !find 3.5.3
[05:50] <ubotu> No packages matching '3.5.3' could be found
[05:50] <mr-roadster> !dualhead
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualhead
[05:50] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: has anybody else been able to connect to you or am I your first try?
[05:50] <sbriscoe> mine can do dual, and dual works on kubuntu...just that one monitor does the scrolling thing
[05:50] <mr-roadster> !dualscreen
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about dualscreen
[05:51] <min> yea Ive been doing fine with windows. I just click FN+F2 and one monitor turns off and my main monitor is on. I todl u the other one's broken remember?
[05:51] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: first one =)
[05:51] <om_> did anybody else try?
[05:51] <LiquidNerd_work> I'm thinking your ISP is blocking
[05:51] <om_> well it worked when i had apache set up on windows and it was the same ISP
[05:52] <LiquidNerd_work> min: are you trying to do dual monitors? When you say broken, that means the LCD panel is no longer functional
[05:52] <om_> gotta register a new nick..
[05:52] <LiquidNerd_work> sbriscoe: sounds like the CTRL ALT + thing
[05:52] <LiquidNerd_work> try that
[05:52] <LiquidNerd_work> the + is on the num pad
[05:53] <sbriscoe> laptop doesnt have a numpad, only shift+=
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> interesting
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> I forgot about that
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> hmm
[05:53] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: im trying to dcc
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> not sure how you'd do that then
[05:53] <sbriscoe> what would ctrl alt + normally do?
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> sbriscoe: on push the numlock and you should have a numpad on your keys
[05:53] <LiquidNerd_work> it changes screen resolutions
[05:54] <LiquidNerd_work> omv0: yeah and that's not going through either
[05:54] <LiquidNerd_work> do you have a firewall setup?
[05:54] <min> I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028
[05:54] <sbriscoe> the resolution is fine. if i set it at 1600x1200, it will go to 1600x1200, but it's like the screen is just too big for the monitor so it does the scrolling thing. kinda hard to explain i guess
[05:54] <min> LiquidNerd_work: I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028
[05:54] <reSpawn> !find flash
[05:54] <ubotu> Found: flashybrid, libflash-dev, libflash-mozplugin, libflash-swfplayer, libflash0c2 (and 4 others)
[05:54] <reSpawn> !kde
[05:54] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:55] <LiquidNerd_work> sbriscoe: I know what you mean
[05:55] <reSpawn> How can I upgrade my KDE ?
[05:55] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: i never set one up.. so if it's not automatic then no.. i've sent files successfully with gaim though
[05:55] <LiquidNerd_work> can your screen/kard support that?
[05:55] <LiquidNerd_work> strange why I can't connect to your apache then
[05:55] <omv0> or dcc...
[05:56] <omv0> can someone please tell me if this works for them? http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg
[05:56] <sbriscoe> dual screen works fine in windows
[05:56] <LiquidNerd_work> sbriscoe: at the same resolutions?
[05:56] <sbriscoe> yup
[05:56] <LiquidNerd_work> and if you press the numlock on it doesn't turn half the keyboard into a numpad?
[05:57] <min> LiquidNerd_work: I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028
[05:57] <min> oops bad grammar ;] 
[05:57] <LiquidNerd_work> min: has it ever worked at the size you want?
[05:57] <min> yea in windows
[05:57] <min> not in kubuntu though
[05:58] <LiquidNerd_work> hmm
[05:58] <min> can I just turn one off and make the external monitor primary and chnage the resolution?
[05:58] <Kr4t05> What would I chmod a directory to for regular user access?
[05:59] <DeadS0ul> 777
[05:59] <Kr4t05> Thanks
[05:59] <trappist> ack
[05:59] <trappist> 777 is wrong 100% of the time
[05:59] <LiquidNerd_work> lol
[06:00] <LiquidNerd_work> 0700
[06:00] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: ok this is the best i could do, but it resized it so you have to zoom in: http://www.mypixshare.com/images/587/1422/00000001.jpg
[06:00] <Kr4t05> Er...
[06:00] <Kr4t05> ok
[06:00] <DeadS0ul> lol why
[06:00] <trappist> chown it to the user/group you want to have access, then 775 at the most
[06:00] <trappist> DeadS0ul: world read/write/execute opens a hole for some nasty attacks
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> really?
[06:01] <DeadS0ul> gimme an example
[06:01] <min> so cna u help me?
[06:02] <Kr4t05> I want read/write/delete access to it,
[06:02] <trappist> somebody gains control of your webserver, but can't do much with it, because its user only owns a few directories.  you open a way for the attacker to start moving outside of www-data-owned files and directories, from which he can branch out and cause more problems
[06:02] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: also notice the desktop boxes are all empty even though i have programs running in each
[06:02] <trappist> Kr4t05: yes but not for everybody in the world
[06:02] <Kr4t05> Ah, ok.
[06:02] <LiquidNerd_work> omv0: right click on the pager, select pager options, make sure Window Thumbnails and Window Icons are checked
[06:03] <Kr4t05> trappist, what group would the regular user be in?
[06:03] <LiquidNerd_work> min: it's odd that it's not coming up with the right screen size
[06:03] <sbriscoe> holy hell, i just fixed it
[06:03] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: oohh now it works =) but you still see the html code on the bottom left of amarok?
[06:03] <trappist> Kr4t05: if you just want your user to have access, sudo chown youruser /path/to/dir
[06:03] <Kr4t05> ok
[06:04] <LiquidNerd_work> when you push the FN + F2 key you should have the ability to select 1 or both screens
[06:04] <VonGeist> anyone had any luck getting an Mx1000 mouse to work? I've tried a bunch of the tutorials on the internet bu hey just seem to stop my system from booting
[06:04] <LiquidNerd_work> sbriscoe: how'd you do it?
[06:04] <min> LiquidNerd_work: What do u do to switch the screens?
[06:04] <LiquidNerd_work> monitor
[06:04] <min> its not working
[06:04] <min> I wanna do that too
[06:05] <min> when I do FN F2 it takes screenie instead
[06:05] <LiquidNerd_work> omv0: yeah that looks odd... how I'd fix it is to delete the amarok folder and start fresh
[06:05] <Kr4t05> And, any application I authourize can access this dir, right?
[06:05] <sbriscoe> both monitors seperately configure to set a 60hz. when i enable dual screen my main monitor drops to 59hz, with the option of changing to 74. So i tried it at 74 and it's not doin the scrolling thing now. Sweeeeet
[06:05] <LiquidNerd_work> min that's really strange.. no error in the X.org logs?
[06:05] <min> Thats what I did in windows
[06:05] <omv0> LiquidNerd_work: i tried to use Adept to uninstall and reinstall.. didnt fix it
[06:05] <trappist> Kr4t05: any applications you run
[06:05] <min> eh?
[06:05] <Kr4t05> good,
[06:05] <min> LiquidNerd_work:How do i check the logs?
[06:06] <LiquidNerd_work> less /var/log/X.org.log
[06:06] <cox377> I have this problem, i'm trying to get ports open for my email, when i run nmap it only states 3 ports which are not the ones i've opened up in firestarter, however when i run the command for ports that are currently listening it shows the ports i wnat open, i've try without firewall, i've tried with firestarter and with guarddog and it always does the same. However.. if i log into root the ports are sitting there open! does anyone now how 
[06:06] <LiquidNerd_work> or something like that
[06:06] <trappist> Kr4t05: that doesn't include applications you start via sudo, which then run as other users, such as apache
[06:06] <Kr4t05> ok
[06:06] <Kr4t05> I don't run websever apps on my desktop anyway.
[06:06] <trappist> cox377: are you nmapping localhost?
[06:06] <min> LiquidNerd_work:
[06:06] <min> min@ubuntu:~$ sudo less /var/log/X.org.log
[06:06] <min> /var/log/X.org.log: No such file or directory
[06:07] <Kr4t05> I may install gnump3d on here for when I go on vacation, but that's it.
[06:07] <trappist> min: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:07] <LiquidNerd_work> bah.. I gotta head out to lunch... sorry guys
[06:07] <LiquidNerd_work> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:07] <LiquidNerd_work> I'll be back in a hour or so
[06:08] <min> trappist: Ok I did that
[06:08] <cox377> trappist: im nmapping my ip address of this machine, when i just ran it under root it doesnt show those ports to be open but know they are open because the mail client shows them as Green being open
[06:08] <min> trappist: It's giving me a bunch of stuff
[06:09] <trappist> cox377: "open" is a little ambiguous - is it listening only on localhost, or on external interfaces as well?  by default, they only listen on localhost.  do this: sudo netstat -ntalp | grep :25
[06:10] <Ertain> So no one knows about Wacom tablets?  Figures. :-(
[06:10] <trappist> Ertain: I didn't hear your question, but I bet uncle google knows
[06:10] <cox377> trappist: just ran nmap under local host and it shows them to be open, but when using my computer ip address instead of localhost it shows them as closed
[06:11] <trappist> cox377: because your mail server is only listening on localhost, which is the default behavior
[06:11] <min> trappist: one of the error said
[06:11] <min> (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)
[06:11] <min> (II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "640x512" (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan)
[06:11] <cox377> trappist: but when i go back to my mail client it doesnt show them as open
[06:11] <trappist> min: I don't even know what your problem is.  but you're probably looking for errors, so look for lines that start with (EE)
[06:12] <min> I mean one fo them monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows but right the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028
[06:12] <cox377> trappist: tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:25            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     21123/mozilla-thund
[06:12] <cox377> thats what i got from your command, what does that mena?
[06:12] <cox377> mean**
[06:12] <trappist> cox377: 127.0.0.1:25 means it's only listening on localhost.  mine says 0.0.0.0:25
[06:13] <cox377> trappist:means i have to open it to the actual IP address?
[06:13] <min> one of the monitor is busted(as in a baseball smashed through it) so Ill be happy if it just wasnt there/turned off. The other monitor is the external monitor which worked fine during my days in windows. Right now the both of my monitors are on. (well the broken one is lit up I cant see a thing in there) and the external working monitor's resolution is 640x280 but I need to make it 12o4x1028
[06:13] <trappist> cox377: you have to make it *listen* on the external ip address.
[06:13] <cox377> trappist: sorry if this sounds dumb but what would that IP address me?
[06:13] <cox377> be*
[06:14] <Ertain> I can't find an IRC channel for Wacom tablets.  And Google doesn't seem to be helping.
[06:14] <trappist> cox377: ifconfig | grep 'inet addr' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{print $1}' | grep -v ^127
[06:15] <min> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16634
[06:16] <Jack1> hi h3sp4wn
[06:16] <trappist> Ertain: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Fdev%2Fwacom
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Did it work?
[06:16] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it worked fine
[06:16] <trappist> err min: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+%2Fdev%2Fwacom
[06:17] <gatekeeper> min: have a look at this: http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Is everything working ?
[06:17] <cox377> trappist: so i'm just adding the local IP address i'm assuming you mean
[06:17] <Jack1> but i used kde, and it routinely installs gnome; and i configured a lot progs like gtkpod from source...
[06:18] <Jack1> h3sp4wn best way to do install kubuntu-desktop and then transfer home directory?
[06:18] <min> ye aIm looking at it
[06:18] <trappist> cox377: I'm making some assumptions about your setup, but probably, yes
[06:18] <min> *yea Im looking at it
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Yes but the stuff from source you will have to do the stuff from source again (or find the package which may have been added since)
[06:19] <min> trappist: So I should change my xorg.conf into that?
[06:19] <Jack1> h3sp4wn or better transfer  an image from the old lappie and mount that with live cd?
[06:19] <Hawkwind> Hey there trappist
[06:19] <min> lol hey hawkwind
[06:19] <trappist> min: into what?  I don't even know what you're asking about
[06:19] <trappist> heya Hawkwind
[06:19] <Hawkwind> Hey there min
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Why the live cd ? I don't think is much need
[06:19] <Hawkwind> trappist: I did it!  I finally made the jump to Kubuntu as my main OS :)
[06:19] <Jack1> ok
[06:20] <trappist> Hawkwind: ossum :)
[06:20] <min> remember u sent me http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf. Should I copy that?
[06:20] <Jack1> kernel image 2.4.27-2-686 is this right for me? centrino dual core
[06:20] <Hawkwind> trappist: I'm really enjoying it.  It's like a big breath of fresh air
[06:20] <Jack1> h3sp4wn kernel image 2.4.27-2-686 is this right for me? centrino dual core
[06:20] <trappist> min: no I didn't
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: No
[06:21] <min> o gatekeeper did
[06:21] <om_> LiquidNerd_work: can you plase try http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg again? i messed around with settings, maybe i fixed it
[06:21] <Jack1> h3sp4wn  linux image 686?
[06:21] <min> gatekeeper: remember u sent me http://mg.pov.lt/xorg.conf. Should I copy that?
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That should be ok
[06:22] <torstefan> heh.. I feel a tad stupid to ask this. But how do I get the taskbar back? I removed it..
[06:22] <trappist> torstefan: alt-f2 and run 'kicker'
[06:22] <Jack1> ok then i install that..thx h3sp4wn..cu in a while
[06:23] <torstefan> right...
[06:23] <gatekeeper> min: have you got a manual for Radeon graphics card, judging by the error messages above the vsync and hsync might not be right, just grasping at straws here :-)
[06:23] <Jack1> h3sp4wn but it says there :This package will always depend on the latest kernel image available
[06:23] <Jack1> for Pentium Pro/Celeron/Pentium II/Pentium III/Pentium IV.
[06:23] <thompa> i need to disable touchpad
[06:23] <Jack1> u despite sure that its right? h3sp4wn
[06:23] <min> gatekeeper: No I dont have the manual for anything. What should I do? Copy that xorg.conf file?
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Core duo is basically a PIII
[06:23] <gatekeeper> min:no just look at it for guidance
[06:24] <min> gatekeeper: Oh its very similiar to mine
[06:24] <Jack1> ok thx h3sp4wn bybye
[06:24] <torstefan> trappist: What does it do?
[06:24] <min> gatekeeper: So what should I do?
[06:25] <min> my horizontal is 31 KHZ nd my vert is 60HZ
[06:25] <Jack1> h3sp4wn best way to install kde? via apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or how should i do that? SRY FOR BOTHERING
[06:26] <gatekeeper> min: I was googling trying to get some idea as to what might be going wrong
[06:26] <min> k ty
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop would be fine or aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (I use aptitude)
[06:26] <dr_willis> Jack1,  thats how i normally install it.
[06:27] <Tommy2k4> can anyone suggest an mp3 player (not amarok or xmms) that can handle m3u files and has global shortcuts
[06:27] <Jack1> thank u both
[06:27] <Tommy2k4> and can minimise to tray
[06:27] <dr_willis> gee aint you picky. :)
[06:27] <om_> why is my system so unstable? amarok keeps crashing X, i just unchecked "show installed" in Adept and it disappeared... firefox crashes occasionally too..
[06:28] <om_> is it just my system or this is the way it is?
[06:28] <Tommy2k4> well xmms doesnt have global shortcuts and amarok wont play low bitrate wma's for some dumb reason
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> dr_willis: Got any of those webcams working yet ? (Got one as a free gift don't know whether to even bother trying to set it up - don't really have any use for it either thinking about it)
[06:28] <dr_willis> I would gyuess a hardware or some odd config/driver issue om_
[06:28] <dr_willis> h3sp4wn,  they are all tossed in a closet somewhere
[06:29] <torstefan> Okay, how do i restart the kde-panels? Everything is gone.. :P
[06:29] <om_> dr_willis: so it's pretty stable for most other people?
[06:30] <dr_willis> very very very satable. :P
[06:30] <dr_willis> I just cant ever get my webcams to work :)
[06:30] <dr_willis> then again - i donmt want them to work.
[06:30] <dr_willis> wife needs to stay out of the XXX chat rooms.
[06:30] <dr_willis> :)
[06:30] <Hobbsee> torstefan: killall kicker && kicker?
[06:31] <Jack1> h3sp4wn would i find in /var or /usr my downloaded progs if i dont want to install them all again?
[06:31] <gatekeeper> min: does windows use the same horizontal and vert sync?
[06:31] <om_> dr_willis: lol
[06:32] <min> gatekeeper: I think. It worked fine for me on windows.
[06:32] <dr_willis> Jack1,  best to reinstall them.
[06:33] <min> gatekeeper: In windows I turned one monitor off by doing Fn+F2
[06:33] <gatekeeper> min: that should not matter
[06:34] <min> gatekeeper: ALright
[06:34] <Jack1> dr_willis probably right, just hate it doing all configuring again...if i copy my /home would i have my preferences and data eg in kontact (kmail, akregator, knode) again?
[06:34] <torstefan> Hobbsee: Done that, but the .. interface is gone. U know the command to start it?
[06:34] <torstefan> the "explorer"
[06:34] <gatekeeper> min: have you tried a linux liveCD?
[06:35] <Jack1> dr_willis or are such things stored in the applications folder or somewhere...
[06:35] <min> yea I tried ubuntu live cd and I had the same problem
[06:35] <dr_willis> Jack1,  they could be about anywhere.  different files go in different spots
[06:35] <Tommy2k4> !paste
[06:35] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:36] <min> gatekeeper: yea I tried ubuntu live cd and I had the same problem
[06:36] <dr_willis> Jack1,  theres a way to get apt to show a list of installed packages. ive used that list and a script to reinstall  the packages on other systems.
[06:36] <gatekeeper> min:damn :-(
[06:36] <dr_willis> Jack1,  could backup your /var/apt/cache (i think) dir so you dont have to redownload everything.
[06:36] <dr_willis> if the stuff is still there
[06:37] <min> arrgh
[06:37] <min> Ive been doing this for 2 days in a row
[06:38] <gatekeeper> min: I think it's getting confused and still thinks it's playing with your laptop monitor
[06:38] <min> yea exactly
[06:38] <Jack1> dr_willis oh i burnt that to cd..copy and paste in the folder /var/apt/cache? but how do i say synaptic it should use the progs from there?
[06:38] <slow-motion> re
[06:38] <min> gatekeeper: Can I just turn the laptop monitor off?
[06:38] <dr_willis> it should look there by default
[06:38] <min> Like in windows there was this key that siwtches monitors
[06:39] <cox377> anyone know the command to force a eth0 port open?
[06:39] <yacek> hello
[06:39] <m-onkey> sudo ifup eth0 maybe
[06:39] <uniq> cox377: force a port open?
[06:39] <gatekeeper> min: you could try, if the LiveCD won't resolve the problem I am a bit of a loss to suggest what to do.
[06:39] <cox377> basically, i want three ports open
[06:39] <cox377> pop3
[06:39] <cox377> smtp
[06:39] <uniq> if you haven't closed them they are open by default.
[06:40] <min> gatekeeper: What am I suppsoed to do with the live cd?
[06:40] <m-onkey> ah ports not the interface
[06:40] <Fiya_ZzZ> hey guys in my messages log i have a bunch of "Jun 27 12:25:03 localhost -- MARK --"
[06:40] <reSpawn> How can I create virtual eth's ?
[06:40] <Fiya_ZzZ> anyone know what that is?
[06:40] <reSpawn> Like eth0:1, eth0:2
[06:40] <v3ctor> ifconfig eth0:1 up
[06:40] <uniq> fiya_zzz: just that, marks. nothing more, nothing less,perfectly normal.
[06:40] <reSpawn> :o
[06:40] <reSpawn> Thanks
[06:40] <yacek> is there any website describing kubuntu after installation tasks?
[06:41] <fiyawerx> cool
[06:41] <min> urgh
[06:41] <reSpawn> v3ctor: can I do ifconfig eht100 up ?
[06:41] <reSpawn> :)
[06:41] <reSpawn> even if that eth doesn't exist
[06:41] <reSpawn> *eth
[06:41] <gatekeeper> min: If when you booted from the liveCD you got the correct resolution but not from your HDD you could examine the xorg.conf on the RAM disc to see what it was using in the hope that might give a clue as to how to solve the problem
[06:41] <Jack1> dr_willis would i need to add var/apt/cache or the cd to my sources list?
[06:42] <cox377> m-onkey: i have thos hotmail extention for thunderbird, logged into root and all the ports shown green and all works fine and dandy, come back to normal account, opened the ports under firestarter but no go. when i do nmap local host it shows the ports to be open, but when i do nmap 192.168.etc it shows the ports not to be open, i'm under the assumption i need to get them open under them
[06:42] <uniq> fiyawerx: you can disable them if you put SYSLOGD="-m 0" on top of /etc/init.d/sysklogd
[06:43] <fiyawerx> uniq: thanks
[06:43] <v3ctor> no
[06:44] <dr_willis> Jack1,  no.. any packages get downloaded to /var/apt/cache so you just copy your files tehre.
[06:44] <dr_willis> Jack1,  or do like i do and make it a nfs share. :P so all the pc's can get to it.
[06:45] <Jack1> dr_willis and before synaptic downloads something it would check the cache if the file s already there?
[06:45] <dr_willis> yes - :P
[06:45] <Jack1> dr_willis it would do that autaomatically?
[06:46] <torstefan> a quiz: How do you start the KDE-thingy(don't know the name of it..) ? That holds the "start"butto, and the taskmanager--
[06:46] <claydoh> the command is "kicker"
[06:46] <claydoh> as is the name of the panel :)
[06:46] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;-10} ${status;-25} ${Package}\n' | sort -n (But if you have built from source those apps won't appear in that list)
[06:47] <torstefan> Oh.. thx :)
[06:47] <claydoh> np
[06:49] <Jack1> h3sp4wn...sry i enter this in commandline? Package needs to be repalced by my package name?
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: That will list all the installed packages sorted by size (but ones installed from source)
[06:50] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Run it on the old machine check what you need to install and add them to the new one
[06:50] <fiyawerx> how do you edit the apps in your programs menu
[06:50] <Jack1> h3sp4wn ok thx
[06:50] <fiyawerx> n/m, if you right click-edit one, it opens up menu editor :)
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> Or just right click the k menu
[06:51] <_rince_> re
[06:52] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: you were the one i was talking to about Yakuake last night right?
[06:53] <tH4S3c0nDc0m1Ng> Would someone mind takeing a look at my fstab from batebin to see that it is written correctly?
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> fyawekx: What about it - it is working fine for me now
[06:53] <fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: yeah, just wondering if you like it
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: I do like it but I still use konsole when I need more space
[06:55] <minsin> omg
[06:55] <minsin> gateskeeper
[06:55] <minsin> I think it might have worked
[06:56] <nico8481> hi
[06:56] <minsin> gateskeeper: Remember the xorg.conf file that u showed me for reference? I pasted that into miy xorg.conf file and the resolution ixs right
[06:57] <minsin> gateskeeper: But then the kubuntu log in screen?
[06:57] <minsin> its pushed to the side
[06:57] <minsin> so I cant see a thing
[06:58] <minsin> can someone help me?
[06:58] <minsin> it's almost working
[06:58] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: the install with floppy fail...
[06:58] <minsin> is gateskeeper afk?
[06:59] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: it tell no sistem disc press enter to reboot
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: Its not a supported installation method
[06:59] <minsin> anyone?
[06:59] <gioacchino> how to install ?
[07:00] <minsin> fuck I was so close
[07:00] <gioacchino> scsi fail...
[07:00] <gioacchino> floppy fail
[07:00] <Healot> the windows is too large, minsin?
[07:00] <gioacchino> ide cdrom none...
[07:00] <gioacchino> net istallation fail...
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> Does it have a scsi cdrom ?
[07:01] <gioacchino> [19:01]  <h3sp4wn> Does it have a scsi cdrom ? yes I have onli scasi cdrom..
[07:01] <gioacchino> and ita fail..
[07:01] <min> ok
[07:01] <min> it worked
[07:02] <gioacchino> I must buy a ide cdrom...
[07:02] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: Does the scsi card have a bios on it ? Is it a server ? How new ?
[07:03] <gioacchino> gioacchino: Does the scsi card have a bios on it ? yes but the istallation from scsi tell > no disc sistem or erro disc
[07:03] <gioacchino> s it a server ? no
[07:04] <h3sp4wn> Read the documentation for the scsi bios you should be able to boot from a scsi cdrom
[07:04] <min> h3sp4wn: I got this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem
[07:04] <min> how do I fix it?
[07:05] <gioacchino> How new ? it is of 2000
[07:05] <gioacchino> the processor
[07:05] <min> om
[07:05] <gioacchino> the cpu is a pentium III 500Mhz
[07:05] <gioacchino> 256MB ram
[07:05] <min> h3sp4wn: I got this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem
[07:05] <om_> help! my resolution is on 640x800... when i try to change it i get "keep this settings?" and it counts to 15sec.. but nothing happens
[07:05] <h3sp4wn> giacchino: I would read the documentation for the scsi card
[07:05] <gioacchino> good vieo card
[07:06] <min> me too
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> min: Don't know anything about gui stuff sorry
[07:06] <min> thats exactly what I have
[07:06] <min> aww
[07:06] <min> np
[07:06] <gioacchino> good audio card ( but fail with linux is a Sound blaster live! )
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> Soundblaster live should work with linux
[07:06] <gioacchino> exuse me
[07:06] <dr_willis> Ive used soundblaster Live! for ates
[07:07] <dr_willis> ages
[07:07] <gioacchino> I leave
[07:07] <Ertain> Stupid tablet.  Darn proximity's messed up.
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: You need to find out what scsi card you are using
[07:07] <om_> how do i fix my screen resolution?
[07:08] <der_daniel> what is the easiest way to install kile 1.9 on kubuntu, please?
[07:08] <dr_willis> !fixres
[07:08] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:08] <om_> thanks!
[07:08] <min> dr_willis: Would that work for this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png problem?
[07:10] <min> where can I get the "universe" repository?
[07:10] <gioacchino> I am here
[07:11] <min> gioacchino: how can I fix http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png  rpoblem?
[07:11] <dr_willis> min you using dual monitors?
[07:11] <gioacchino> ok I read the model of my controller scsi
[07:12] <min> yea
[07:12] <min> it looks like this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[07:12] <dr_willis> may want to do some reading up on xcinerama and 'twinview' if using a nvidia card
[07:12] <gioacchino> Min I am a new bebia of linux...
[07:12] <min> dr_willis: it looks like this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[07:12] <dr_willis> yes min.. i see that. :P
[07:12] <min> yea
[07:12] <dr_willis> but still its odd that the panel is not at the bottom
[07:12] <min> Im on dual
[07:13] <min> yep
[07:13] <min> how would I fix this?
[07:13] <dr_willis> try making a new user, and  see if it works right for them.. if so - then its a kde config issue.
[07:13] <gioacchino> my scsi is SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 01)
[07:13] <dr_willis> also could try some other window managers and gnome. see if it works right for them
[07:13] <min> I changed the xorg.conf to make it look like this. (it was worse before. How would I change this?
[07:14] <dr_willis> almost looks like the monitor and screen settings are fighting each other.
[07:14] <gatekeeper> min: was that from the web site I gave you?
[07:14] <dr_willis> you can drag windows to the other area?
[07:15] <leo__> hallo i need a german kubuntu channel
[07:15] <Raito> (I have a widescreen laptop) How do I set it so that it keeps its correct aspect ratio when switching to 800 x 600 or 1024 x 768 (As opposed to stretching)
[07:15] <dr_willis> #kubuntu-de
[07:15] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: my controller is> SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-7850 (rev 01)
[07:15] <v3ctor> !de
[07:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:16] <sbriscoe> guten tag. wie gehtz
[07:16] <dr_willis> Raito,  theres a 'modeline generator' web site that ive used to get the correct modelines for my other widescreen laptops.
[07:16] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: Look at adaptec's site and find out how to boot from cdrom
[07:16] <reSpawn> !ro
[07:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about ro
[07:16] <reSpawn> !kde
[07:16] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[07:16] <Raito> dr_willis: that is it?
[07:16] <dr_willis> google for modeline generator
[07:17] <Raito> thanks dr_willis
[07:20] <min> so is there any way to fix this?
[07:21] <Jack1> h3sp4wn hi u think i can safely copy and paste my old /home folder that it replaces the new one...
[07:21] <jeff__> hello al
[07:21] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Should be ok if they both use dapper
[07:21] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: in the site of adaptec tello only windows nt and ms-dos....
[07:22] <Jack1> h3sp4wn they dont, the old had breezy badger..
[07:22] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: All you need to know is how to boot from cdrom
[07:22] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:  my sblive audio card fail because I had istalled kubuntu in this hd in another pc
[07:22] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: I wouldn't copy it straight over then
[07:23] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: You need to work out how the scsi card works forget about the soundcard (for now) it should just work anyway
[07:24] <gioacchino> and after I had move the hard disk on my pc..
[07:24] <Raito> Where is one's XF86Config's monitor section?
[07:24] <Jack1> h3sp4wn...how should i do? pick my applications preferences out and copy that? e.g. /.kde
[07:25] <gioacchino> the scsi now ( after the istallation ) is ok
[07:25] <gioacchino> the sound card fail..
[07:26] <gioacchino> when I istall the driver emu10k1 v0.20 it fail the istallation of driver...
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: The version of kde has changed (I thought the old one had dapper) copying it will cause problems
[07:26] <gioacchino> I istall fro root shell...
[07:26] <gioacchino> I istall from root shell...
[07:27] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: You shouldn't need to install the driver but I don't know enough about that card (unless it is ISA or something)
[07:27] <gioacchino> how to resolv the sound card_
[07:27] <threat> what package do I install for DIVX and XVID codecs?
[07:28] <gioacchino> Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 06)
[07:28] <Raito> threat: I would reccomend vlc, it can play anything without codecs >_>
[07:28] <gioacchino> this is my audio card...
[07:28] <threat> Raito, ok
[07:28] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[07:28] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[07:28] <gioacchino> my audio card is pci
[07:30] <h3sp4wn> gioacchino: I don't understand what you have and haven't done or why you are trying to install drivers (should be already included)
[07:30] <threat> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:30] <Healot> !repos
[07:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:30] <gioacchino> I have try to istall the driver
[07:30] <Healot> !multiverse
[07:30] <gioacchino> but the istallation fail
[07:31] <gioacchino> because *****.h no such file
[07:31] <sbriscoe> where's the any key?
[07:32] <gioacchino> the *.h file no such are numerous
[07:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> im trying to compile wine and i get this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what does this mean?
[07:32] <h3sp4wn> Don't understand - emu10k1 is in alsa
[07:33] <gioacchino> #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:34] <Jack1> where should i look for my feeds eg in akregator if i want to copy them ?
[07:35] <Healot> any website that have new feed?
[07:35] <gatekeeper> Jack1: do you want File->Import / Export feeds?
[07:37] <Jack1> no i would need to bring them from my old machine to the new one? gatekeeper
[07:37] <MehAdult> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: You don't need to compile. Just apt-get
[07:38] <gatekeeper> Jack1: can't you use file->export on the old machine, move the file to the new machine then do File Import??
[07:38] <threat> Healot, ok that didnt help
[07:39] <threat> I already have all components added to my source.list file
[07:39] <threat> now what?
[07:39] <ConstrabusGegami> Would someone mind taking a look at my fstab on pastebin? I'm not sure if its written correctly.
[07:39] <threat> where is libxine-extracodecs?
[07:39] <Healot> update the list?
[07:40] <threat> I have main restricted universe and multiverse
[07:40] <threat> Healot, :/ yes I have done that many of times
[07:40] <threat> so where is it?
[07:40] <Healot> is it enabled on the "dapper" repos?
[07:40] <Healot> how did you enabled them?
[07:40] <reSpawn> Can I paste 4 lines?
[07:40] <threat> I dont know
[07:41] <threat> ok
[07:41] <threat> reSpawn, ok
[07:41] <reSpawn> Section "device" #
[07:41] <reSpawn>   identifier "device1"
[07:41] <reSpawn>   boardname "nv"
[07:41] <reSpawn>   busid "PCI:1:0:0"
[07:41] <reSpawn>   driver "nv"
[07:41] <reSpawn>   screen 1
[07:41] <reSpawn> can I delete these from my xorg?
[07:41] <MehAdult> Thats 6
[07:41] <threat> Healot, using nano
[07:41] <reSpawn> I already have Section "device" upper
[07:41] <Healot> if you enabled the "dapper-backports" it is useless then
[07:41] <Healot> threat: pastebin the /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:41] <reSpawn> Healot you talked with me?
[07:42] <Healot> NO, reSpawn
[07:42] <reSpawn> okay
[07:42] <threat> Healot, no
[07:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> MehAdult: do u know which version is the one in the repos?
[07:43] <Healot> just throw me the sources.list file, and I'll tell you where is your mistake
[07:43] <MehAdult> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Pretty recent
[07:43] <MehAdult> If you use Dapper I mean.
[07:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> MehAdult: yeah , dapper ,
[07:44] <threat> hnmnmmm ok
[07:44] <MehAdult> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Yeah.
[07:45] <threat> hmmm beer in plastic bottles :/
[07:46] <der_daniel> does adept have something like an "advanced mode"?
[07:46] <threat> grrrr
[07:46] <der_daniel> it has hardly any options on my default kubuntu 6.06
[07:46] <fiyawerx> hey guys anyone know how to fix this one? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[07:47] <fiyawerx> when trying to run glxgears, i've installed the nvidia-glx from adept
[07:47] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: What kind of graphic card do you have and which driver are you using?
[07:47] <fiyawerx> nvidia 6600gt pci-e card
[07:47] <MehAdult> I got that running google earth and I didn't have my nvidia drivers enabled in xorg.conf
[07:47] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> MehAdult: i only see dummy packages , both only like 28k, is that what im supposed to install?
[07:47] <fiyawerx> not sure which driver
[07:47] <MehAdult> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Did you sudo apt-get install wine?
[07:48] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep driver
[07:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> MehAdult: no , i was trying to get it with adept
[07:48] <MehAdult> Find a line with either nv, nvidia, or vesa or something
[07:48] <reSpawn> how to reinstall a package with apt-get?
[07:48] <MehAdult> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Try apt-get
[07:48] <fiyawerx> oh, weird, its blank
[07:49] <MehAdult> reSpawn: sudo apt-get remove package && sudo apt-get install package works
[07:49] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: Sorry, do | grep Driver
[07:49] <MehAdult> Stinking case sensitivity :p
[07:49] <Jack1> my old breezy machine: it says /tmp is full, cannot write to device..can i empty it from console?
[07:49] <threat> Healot, hmmmm pastebin isnt working
[07:49] <threat> Healot, /j #threatdump
[07:49] <fiyawerx> "nv"
[07:49] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: What are you trying to run?
[07:49] <fiyawerx> 3 "wacom"'s too, thats odd
[07:50] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: glxgears
[07:50] <MehAdult> Oh.
[07:50] <MehAdult> !nvidia
[07:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:50] <threat> Healot, ok?
[07:50] <MehAdult> Do that fiyawerx
[07:50] <fiyawerx> MehAdult: thanks
[07:50] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> MehAdult: i sent u a pm ,
[07:52] <MehAdult> fiyawerx: You're welcome.
[07:53] <furgu>  Anyone know how to fix this error: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found.
[07:53] <furgu>  kde-config --path services
[07:53] <furgu> /home/wilsone/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/
[07:53] <furgu> kword-data is installed
[07:53] <Roger_Enrasson> Hallo to everyone! I have problems with KDE menu, it doesn't want to update itself. can anyone tell me what to do to resolve?..
[07:54] <furgu> You edit and save your changes?
[07:55] <Roger_Enrasson> furgu: yes.
[07:55] <threat> Healot, woot
[07:55] <threat> thanx mate
[07:55] <furgu> what do you mean it doesn't want to update itself.  What exactly are you doing?
[07:55] <threat> Healot, where are you from?
[07:56] <thorondor> why
[07:56] <Healot> Malaysia
[07:56] <thorondor> why
[07:56] <threat> Healot, oh
[07:56] <Healot> why what? thorondor
[07:56] <thorondor> why
[07:56] <thorondor> because you suck
[07:57] <Roger_Enrasson> furgu: for example, I install a new package, koffice. It doesn't appear in menu. I remove, for example, sim. It stays in the menu! If I try to manually  edit it, it doesn't save any chages anyway
[07:57] <thorondor> why
[07:57] <furgu> I am having a problem getting koffice to even run
[07:57] <furgu> I think that particular project is broken
[07:57] <threat> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:57] <oxpub> anyone know the name of the web based admin tool for ubuntu that came out a while back?
[07:57] <thorondor> why
[07:57] <thorondor> why
[07:57] <Roger_Enrasson> furgu: me too, but I don't actually care, I use OpenOffice. But still... Any application
[07:57] <thorondor> why
[07:58] <gatekeeper> furgu: have you got synaptic installed?
[07:58] <thorondor> why
[07:58] <Lynoure> thorondor: What's wrong?
[07:58] <furgu> gatekeeper, I was using CLI, should I try synaptic instead?
[07:58] <thorondor> you suck
[07:58] <Hawkwind> thorondor: It would be nice if you would stop repeating yourself
[07:58] <sbriscoe> someone's grumpy
[07:58] <thorondor> Lynoure sucks
[07:58] <thorondor> Lynoure sucks
[07:58] <oxpub> ugh
[07:58] <Roger_Enrasson> Hawkwind: I suppose it's a bot
[07:58] <thorondor> Hawkwind sucks
[07:59] <thorondor> no
[07:59] <thorondor> it's not a bot, fucker
[07:59] <oxpub> web based ubuntu admin tool name anyone?
[07:59] <gatekeeper> furgu: synaptic will tell you if the package is broken
[07:59] <Roger_Enrasson> why no OPs at the channel?
[07:59] <thorondor> no
[07:59] <furgu> Roger_Enrasson, Menu Editor is working ok for me.  Do you get a progress indicator when you save, that says 'Updating System Configuration'?
[07:59] <Lynoure> I wish it is a bot. Because rude bots have better lives than rude people
[07:59] <thorondor> Roger_Enrasson sucks
[07:59] <thorondor> Lynoure sucks
[07:59] <Hawkwind> !kops
[07:59] <ubotu> Help! Riddell, uniq, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, or imbrandon
[07:59] <thorondor> it's not a bot, you smartass
[07:59] <Roger_Enrasson> furgu: yes, I have. But still no reaction from menu
[07:59] <thorondor> Roger_Enrasson sucks
[07:59] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: yes?
[08:00] <imbrandon> *looks up*
[08:00] <thorondor> Roger_Enrasson is gay
[08:00] <Hawkwind> apokryphos: Thanks :)
[08:00] <sbriscoe> :)
[08:00] <apokryphos> bad troll
[08:00] <Roger_Enrasson> apokryphos: thank you, man :)
[08:00] <imbrandon> heh apokryphos / nalioth faster than I ;)
[08:00] <nalioth> apokryphos: you are good (you can operate MY computer, even)
[08:01] <furgu> Roger_Enrasson, works for me, sorry...
[08:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> hes been here before , i think he uses proxies, thats why u cant really ban him
[08:02] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: does he always do the why thing?
[08:02] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , hes retarded
[08:02] <sbriscoe> why
[08:02] <sbriscoe> why
[08:03] <sbriscoe> see, gets annoying already
[08:03] <MehAdult> apokryphos: Hero :)
[08:03] <apokryphos> sbriscoe: yes, please do not do it.
[08:03] <Lynoure> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Maybe there is a way to set autoban on that, somehow.
[08:03] <Roger_Enrasson> Okay, I repea, maybe anyone knows. Hallo to everyone! I have problems with KDE menu, it doesn't want to update itself. can anyone tell me what to do to resolve?..
[08:03] <apokryphos> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: no worry, just !ops whenever it happens if you see it
[08:03] <Roger_Enrasson> *repeat
[08:04] <robotgeek> a little late to the party, i guess
[08:04] <oxpub> web based ubuntu admin tool name anyone?
[08:04] <imbrandon> oxpub, webmin ?
[08:04] <uniq> oxpub: webmin.
[08:04] <oxpub> no
[08:04] <oxpub> its not
[08:04] <oxpub> its a ubuntu specific application
[08:04] <oxpub> any core developers in here?
[08:04] <Roger_Enrasson> furgu: okay, no problems. :) by the way maybe you know where the menu config is placed?
[08:05] <imbrandon> Roger_Enrasson, try ~/.kde
[08:05] <h3sp4wn> oxpub: Its not a ubuntu specific app (it was dropped from debian because its junk and one guy could not be bothered maintaining it anymore)
[08:06] <Roger_Enrasson> fungu: only .kderc here. it has my custom font configuration. :)
[08:06] <oxpub> h3sp4wn.. then whats the name of it?
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> oxpub: webmin
[08:06] <Roger_Enrasson> fungu: pardon...
[08:06] <oxpub> no
[08:06] <oxpub> thats not it
[08:06] <Roger_Enrasson> imbrandon: only .kderc here. it has my custom font configuration. :)
[08:06] <oxpub> it *was* a ubuntu specific app..
[08:06] <oxpub> but in developement
[08:07] <oxpub> only had one release i believe
[08:07] <oxpub> web based ubuntu management system
[08:07] <oxpub> or something
[08:07] <h3sp4wn> Web interfaces are a waste of time anyway
[08:07] <imbrandon> oxpub, but not by the core dev team , try google
[08:07] <oxpub> ugh
[08:07] <oxpub> h3sp4wn.. right, might as well throw out phpmyadmin!
[08:08] <h3sp4wn> oxpub: What is wrong with mysqladmin ?
[08:08] <h3sp4wn> oxpub: Or mysqldump ?
[08:08] <Healot> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=web&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all >>
[08:08] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, some people like web interfaces
[08:08] <Healot> management of what?
[08:08] <furgu> this is ubuntu admin stuff or sql admin?
[08:08] <om_> what's wrong with this image magick kubuntu comes with? how come there is no "resize to fit page" ??? anything fast but better i can download instead?
[08:09] <oxpub> gd
[08:09] <om_> gf?
[08:09] <om_> gd?
[08:09] <furgu> resize to fix what page?  imagemagick is CLI only right?
[08:09] <om_> no.. it's the default image viewer
[08:10] <om_> i just clicked on a jpeg and it came up...
[08:10] <om_> it's really bad
[08:10] <imbrandon> imagemagik is a command line image manip tool
[08:10] <Jack1> how can i empty the folder /temp ?
[08:10] <oxpub> like convert
[08:10] <imbrandon> om_, you probbly are wanting something like krita
[08:11] <om_> ok i'll try krita, thanks imbrandon!!
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> imbrandon: I think it encourages people to use things without understanding them properly so when there is a bug in it or it breaks they don't know how to fix it
[08:11] <imbrandon> Jack1, "cd /tmp && sudo rm -rf /tmp/*"
[08:12] <imbrandon> h3sp4wn, thats not the mantra of *buntu though,, easy to use
[08:12] <Jack1> thx imbrandon
[08:12] <furgu> gatekeeper: thanks for suggesting using synaptic.  I did a complete removal (--purge?) and reinstall, it works now
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> oxpub: Why not use mysql-admin (Its gui and it is supported by the people who develop mysql)
[08:14] <stn> anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu
[08:14] <furgu> Jack1: Careful using sudo, there may be some things in /tmp you dont want to delete
[08:14] <stn> anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu
[08:14] <om_> how do i set what program to open as my default .jpeg viewer?
[08:14] <furgu> Jack1: You may need to restart X11
[08:14] <stn> anybody know how install boson simulator CCNA in kubuntu
[08:14] <gatekeeper> furgu: I am pleased to hear it works now :-) synaptic is a good friend to have.
[08:15] <furgu> gatekeeper:  I mostly use the apt-utilities, a lot easier to find things... first time I have had a problem like this
[08:15] <Jack1> furgu how can i know? i can use just commandline
[08:16] <furgu> Jack1: Have you been puting things in there?  are you running out of space?  type 'df -k'
[08:17] <furgu> Jack1, when you reboot that directories gets cleared out anyways
[08:17] <Healot> stn: atm there isn't any like that
[08:17] <Healot> since Boson only develop Windows application
[08:17] <stn> ok
[08:17] <stn> but other simulator for linux
[08:18] <Healot> there is a network diagram builder though
[08:18] <Jack1> my /tmp is full ; it says it cant write to /tmp; x session may exit with an error furgu u have a clue?
[08:18] <stn> there are other simulator of router for linux
[08:18] <MehAdult> stn: Run wine?
[08:18] <Healot> bleh
[08:18] <stn> i try
[08:18] <MehAdult> If there's a linux one follow the directions.
[08:18] <stn> but dont run the program
[08:18] <Healot> stn: use those then
[08:18] <furgu> Jack1: How big is your tmp partition?
[08:18] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[08:18] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[08:19] <stn> i download the vmware for install win98
[08:19] <Jack1> i think 900 mb furgu
[08:19] <stn> for run the simulator
[08:19] <gatekeeper> furgu: I use apt and synaptic, depends what I am doing
[08:19] <stn> and study
[08:20] <Healot> do that then, stn
[08:20] <stn> ok
[08:20] <om_> i'm trying to find out where the executable of gwenview is... how would i do that?
[08:21] <furgu> yah then do 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *', then restart X-Windows, ctrl-alt-backspace (make sure everything is saved)
[08:21] <om_> cause im trying to make firefox open images with gwenview... but i cant find where it is
[08:21] <Healot> whereis gwenview >> om_
[08:21] <furgu> Jack1, always be careful with sudo and rm -rf anything
[08:22] <om_> thanks Healot!
[08:22] <Jack1> furgu next thing i cant start failsafe session for commandline  it brings the message above
[08:23] <ben_> hi :)
[08:23] <furgu> Jack1,  it says it cant write to /tmp;?
[08:23] <Jack1> furgu ya
[08:23] <furgu> Jack1, do 'ls -al /tmp' and copy & paste the output
[08:24] <Jack1> furgu i cant get a commandline
[08:24] <furgu> are you looking at a screen full of text?  white on black and nothing else (no gui)?
[08:24] <ben_> is http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ offline? i can't connect to it via adept
[08:25] <furgu> Jack1, try pressing ctrl-alt-F1
[08:25] <furgu> Jack1, Do you see a login prompt?
[08:26] <Jack1> ya+furgu...i knew it..how could i forget
[08:26] <furgu> Jack1, login, and type 'ls -ald /tmp'
[08:27] <furgu> Jack1, and try 'du -ks /tmp'
[08:28] <furgu> Jack1, and tell me what the output is
[08:28] <Jack1> tmpfurgu i cant paste it (am on the other lappie) but it brings drwxrwxrwt 8 root root 753664 2006-06-27 20:24
[08:29] <furgu> Jack1, how about 'du -ks /tmp'
[08:29] <Cornellius> What's the best way to install Reiser4 on U/K/Xubuntu ?
[08:30] <Jack1> furgu /tmp/210.....: permission denied four times
[08:31] <der_daniel> does adept have some kind of "advanced mode"?
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> Cornellius: I think the drivers are there already but you can't install to it because its pretty unstable
[08:31] <furgu> Jack1, do the 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *'
[08:31] <sbriscoe> does knetworkmanager support wpa?
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> der_daniel: sudo aptitude (aptitude is much more advanced than aptitude)
[08:31] <h3sp4wn> der_daniel: sudo aptitude (aptitude is much more advanced than adept sorry)
[08:31] <Cornellius> h3sp4wn: I've heard that it was pretty stable
[08:31] <Cornellius> Anyways
[08:32] <JakubS> sbriscoe: yes
[08:32] <h3sp4wn> I would probably try it anyway (but many people here don't consider reiser 3 stable)
[08:33] <furgu> h3sp4wn, I have been using reiserfs... works fine
[08:33] <NKjoep> hola
[08:33] <gatekeeper> Cornellius: there is some info here: http://www.mail-archive.com/reiserfs-list@namesys.com/msg20129.html
[08:33] <furgu> h3sp4wn, easiest to start using it on install
[08:33] <furgu> h3sp4wn, pain to convert later on
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> furgu: I am using it - But people consider it not stable in this channel (last time someone asked)
[08:34] <DaSkreech> Morning a;;
[08:34] <DaSkreech> all
[08:34] <furgu> h3sp4wn, Unstable supposedly in the case your computer crashes
[08:34] <furgu> h3sp4wn, possibility for it to be in some bad state before caches are dumped (power outage)
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> That has happened twice to me in the last few days (due to 1 second power cuts) and I don't have problems (yet)
[08:34] <gatekeeper> DaSkreech: it's evening here :-)
[08:34] <furgu> h3sp4wn, I have never had any problems
[08:35] <furgu> h3sp4wn, I have been using it for months and many other people I know also
[08:35] <h3sp4wn> furgu: I think if suse enterprise linux uses it must be reasonably ok
[08:35] <furgu> h3sp4wn, dont know if I would trust it to a production server, without the right hardware
[08:36] <furgu> h3sp4wn, it would need a UPS to be setup to safely bring the server down
[08:36] <h3sp4wn> furgu: I like veritas on production servers
[08:36] <Jack1> furgu it still brings the error xsession warning: unable to write to /tmp x session may exit with an error
[08:36] <Kr4t05> How do I remove dead files from amaroK's collection?
[08:36] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: Evening some! :)
[08:36] <furgu> Jack1, do 'du -ks /tmp' again
[08:37] <furgu> Jack1, any change?
[08:37] <Cornellius> gatekeeper: That link you gave me is good for Dapper too ?
[08:39] <gatekeeper> Cornellius: don't really know to be honest, not really up on it, you would probable need to do a bit of googling
[08:40] <Raito> I installed pcsx from a package, (pcsx-bin), but how does it work? typing pcsx in run causes nothing to happen. How come?
[08:40] <Cornellius> Need a bios for the emulator to work.
[08:40] <Raito> oh, where are you supposed to put in Cornellius?
[08:40] <gatekeeper> Cornellius: got to run sorry I could not be more help
[08:40] <Raito> *put it in
[08:40] <Fiyawerx> hey guys whats the command to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[08:41] <Cornellius> gatekeeper: No problems, I'll google for some info.
[08:41] <Raito> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:41] <Kr4t05> sudo dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:41] <Kr4t05> rofl
[08:41] <gatekeeper> Cornellius: good luck :-)
[08:41] <Cornellius> Raito: I don't know since I use a real PSX :)
[08:42] <Fiyawerx> aha, i kept typing xsession-
[08:42] <Fiyawerx> installed the nvidia-glx drivers and my pc doesn't like me anymore :(
[08:42] <Raito> does anyone know where you should put pcsx bios files?
[08:42] <pierre_> salut
[08:42] <Fiyawerx> here goes again
[08:42] <Cornellius> Fiyawerx: Edit xorg.conf and change ''nv'' for ''nvidia''
[08:42] <pierre_> here is a englsih chan ?
[08:42] <der_daniel> thank you h3sp4wn
[08:43] <ubuntu> !flash
[08:43] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:43] <pierre_> I have a question
[08:43] <sbriscoe> we have an answer
[08:43] <pierre_> My PC has had a bug
[08:43] <h3sp4wn> der_daniel: That is the most powerful graphical interface to apt there is
[08:43] <pierre_> and I wrote a file
[08:44] <Jack1> furgu  no difference i try now to copy my files via live cd
[08:44] <pierre_> and I don't save
[08:44] <furgu> Jack1, You arent deleting the things in /tmp...
[08:44] <pierre_> I had to reboot my pC
[08:44] <furgu> Jack1, the 'cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf *' isn't doing anything?
[08:44] <pierre_> how can I have my file
[08:44] <pierre_> ?
[08:44] <pierre_> with modif
[08:44] <Cornellius> pierre_: Not to sound harsh, but there #ubuntu-fr for french people :)
[08:44] <Jack1> furgu i did exactly as u said
[08:45] <pierre_> ok thanks I don't know
[08:45] <furgu> Jack1, do 'cd /tmp; df -k .'
[08:45] <Jack1> ok
[08:45] <furgu> Jack1, whats the output?
[08:46] <gioacchino> hello
[08:46] <furgu> Jack1, just the use %
[08:46] <Jack1> furgu i cant say right now i am just booting from live cd, 5 mins what u mean with %??
[08:46] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: :P
[08:47] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn: I am ok  :P
[08:47] <furgu> Jack1, df gives a report of the output...
[08:47] <der_daniel> hmm still doesn't work h3sp4wn
[08:47] <furgu> Jack1... derrr, sorry, it gives you a report of the disk usage
[08:47] <der_daniel> i tried to install kile to kubuntu 6.06
[08:47] <h3sp4wn> der_daniel: What is kile ?
[08:47] <Jack1> furgu ok will do then
[08:47] <furgu> Jack1, what are you using a live cd on?  the computer you are tryng to fix?
[08:47] <der_daniel> and no matter what i do the package can't be found
[08:47] <der_daniel> kile is a latex editor
[08:48] <der_daniel> one second
[08:48] <Jack1> furgu yes couldt i delete from the live cd the tmp files?
[08:48] <h3sp4wn> der_daniel: You don't have universe enabled
[08:48] <furgu> You are deleting the tmp files from the temporary mount on the live CD, if I had to guess, not the /tmp of the hdd you are trying to fix
[08:48] <der_daniel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/tex/kile
[08:49] <der_daniel> this is kile
[08:49] <h3sp4wn> Its in universe
[08:49] <furgu> Jack1, don't use the live cd, just press ctrl-alt-F1 to go the the text login prompt
[08:49] <LiquidNerd_work> om_: figure out the amarok problem?
[08:49] <der_daniel> it should be enabled
[08:49] <Jack1> furgu ok mom
[08:49] <der_daniel> i'll qry you my sources.list, ok?
[08:49] <furgu> Jack1, mom?  dont make me woop yur butt
[08:50] <Dragoonz> i need some help with winbind to AD this is what i get:
[08:50] <Dragoonz> pam_winbind user 'username' granted access
[08:50] <Dragoonz> login: FAILED LOGIN on console FOR user Module is unknown
[08:50] <Dragoonz> any ideas?
[08:50] <Jack1> furgu lol i see the files in the /mnt/hda6/tmp now....
[08:50] <furgu> Jack1, yah try deleting those
[08:51] <dad> I have the latest version of kubuntu, but I have a problem.  Every time I change the CDRom it totally freezes.
[08:51] <scott_> whats better to do to upgrade my system? apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:51] <dad> any suggestions?
[08:51] <der_daniel> you have it as a qry h3sp4wn
[08:51] <der_daniel> i do get errors when running aptitude update, though
[08:51] <DaSkreech> dad: When you unmount or when you put in a new CD
[08:51] <der_daniel> want me to qry those, too?
[08:51] <ubuntu> howd o i enable the universe repositories in adept?
[08:51] <dad> someone mentioned I may be setup to automatically mount
[08:51] <dad> I never manually mount or unmount it
[08:51] <der_daniel> i got the same problem soulrider ^^
[08:52] <h3sp4wn> !repos
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <dad> in fact, I just tried to unmount the cd and it told me it wasn't mounted
[08:52] <bleaked> so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off  -  so what might this mean?
[08:52] <dad> has anyone seen this before?
[08:54] <Jack1> furgu they are locked as superuser i cannot delete those files doing it now your way need to reboot
[08:54] <furgu> Jack1, did you use sudo?
[08:54] <Jack1> furgu i did it as root via sudo -i+
[08:55] <Jack1> furgu  -i i mean
[08:55] <furgu> Jack1, -i shouldnt matter, try it without the live cd
[08:56] <Jack1> furgu ya
[08:56] <dad> anybody have any trouble with the computer freezing up when they change the cd?
[08:57] <Cornellius> Why is it so slow when copying files from CD/DVD to HD on Ubuntu ? On Windows it takes one minute or two.
[08:57] <scott_> might not have dma enabled
[08:58] <dad> is anyone logged on here, a staff member?
[08:59] <dad> if so, can they contact me directly?
[09:00] <robotgeek> dad: why?
[09:00] <dad> because I need some help solving a little problem
[09:00] <centyx> In korganizer, I'm trying to figure out how to create an event and a todo that recur every day EXCEPT for every saturday and sunday. Is it possible to exclude a day of the week? The only option I see is to exclude a specific date.
[09:00] <centyx> is this possible?
[09:01] <dad> there are so many people in here, I don't think they will read me in the midst of all the rest
[09:01] <centyx> what's up dad?
[09:01] <dad> everytime I change a cd my compu freezes up
[09:01] <dad> it only happens since they put the latest kubuntu version on my pc
[09:02] <Jack1> furgu it says 100% usage
[09:03] <Dragoonz> I'm having trouble with pam modules i think... i'm attempting to login to and AD server.  at prompt i type in login. then <username> then <password>.  i get pam_winbind: user <username> granted access then i retype the password  again and get the same thing.  then i get login: FAILED LOGIN 'console' FOR 'username' Module is unknown.  any ideas?
[09:03] <furgu> Jack1, ok your now using the kernel on the hdd, not the live cd right?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> dad: How long does it freeze up for?
[09:03] <furgu> Jack1... try the cd /tmp; sudo rm -rf * thing again
[09:03] <Jack1> furgu yes; 2. ok
[09:03] <centyx> sorry I gotta go
[09:03] <Healot> btw /tmp is cleared after each reboot
[09:04] <dad> DaSkreech, for as long as I can tell forever, but I never actually waited that long. I reboot first
[09:04] <DaSkreech> dad: Ok so you put in a CD and it locks up?
[09:04] <furgu> Healot: I thought so too... obviousaly not in this case
[09:04] <Jack1> furgu can i now just go back to the login screen?
[09:04] <furgu> Jack1, ctrl-alt-F1
[09:04] <dad> DaSkreech, have you seen this before or heard of it?
[09:04] <DaSkreech> dad: Nope :-) Lets see if we can fix it
[09:04] <Dany_Filth> hello people
[09:05] <Jack1> furgu wont start
[09:05] <dad> DaSkreech, yes.  It freezes up so that I can't even switch from one screen to the other
[09:05] <Dany_Filth> can you tell me what's the root password on Kubuntu 6.06
[09:05] <Srecko> What do you think is better (Ubuntu or KUbuntu) ?
[09:05] <furgu> Jack1, any messages?
[09:05] <dad> let me try it now.  I will give it  no more than 10 minutes
[09:05] <Jack1> furgu no stays just so
[09:05] <DaSkreech> Can you press Alt+Ctrl+F1?
[09:05] <Jack1> shall i reboot furgu
[09:05] <furgu> Jack1, the Kernel wont start, or the login?
[09:06] <bleaked> so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off  -  so what might this mean?  Please, anyone?
[09:06] <dad> DaSkreech, nope.  nothing works
[09:06] <Jack1> furgu the login doesnt go back to the graphical login screen
[09:06] <furgu> Jack1... ok, 1 step at a time
[09:06] <furgu> Jack1... be patient
[09:06] <bleaked> Dany_Filth: none is set, just use sudo
[09:06] <furgu> Jack1... do the cd /tmp; df -k . thing again
[09:06] <furgu> Jack1... anything change?
[09:06] <DaSkreech> dad: ok can you pastebin your /etc/fstab?
[09:07] <Jack1> furgu still 100% usage
[09:07] <furgu> Jack1 ... ok 1 sec
[09:08] <furgu> type 'df', tell me the directories in the far right column
[09:08] <mwiggins> running dapper, rebooted my system and now my sound is not playing!? anyone encountered this before? (module is loaded fine, mixers are all unmuted, speakers actually work (testing with headphones), programs can play to audio device just fine, just no audio is coming out
[09:08] <mwiggins> it was working last night just fine before i rebooted
[09:08] <mwiggins> emerge dist-upgrade just in case and it still just not outputting
[09:09] <furgu> Jack1: type 'df', tell me the directories in the far right column
[09:09] <mwiggins> anyone encountered this before?
[09:09] <Lynoure> weedar: bootet or returned for sleep/hibernation?
[09:09] <Lynoure> oops.
[09:09] <furgu> mwiggins, ubuntu got emerge?
[09:09] <mwiggins> heh old habits die hard, meant to type apt-get
[09:09] <Lynoure> mwiggins: booted or returned for sleep/hibernation?
[09:09] <mwiggins> it went down for halt and came back
[09:09] <Lynoure> mwiggins: the latter is a known bug on many laptops
[09:10] <mwiggins> i typed halt in my screen session instead of on the local workstation (doh) and now sound wont work
[09:10] <weedar> Lynoure: what?
[09:10] <mwiggins> might have a new kernel from package updates earlier in the week
[09:10] <Lynoure> weedar: sorry, a nick accident, pressed m too lightly and got your nick instead of mwiggins
[09:11] <dad> here goes the test
[09:11] <furgu> Jack1, try du -ks /tmp
[09:11] <furgu> Jack1, whats the last line?
[09:11] <Dany_Filth> is here someone who can answer me
[09:12] <dad> DaSkreech! it worked
[09:12] <furgu> Dany_Filth, there is no root user by default
[09:12] <Jack1> 748 /tmp
[09:12] <furgu> Dany_Filth, use 'sudo' instead
[09:12] <DaSkreech> dad: Cool :) What did you do?
[09:12] <v3ctor> there is a root user..just no root passwd
[09:12] <dad> how embarrassing. I wasn't paciente enough
[09:12] <furgu> whatever
[09:12] <furgu> same diff
[09:12] <DaSkreech> haha :-)
[09:12] <DaSkreech> Let that be a lesson to you!! :)
[09:13] <Dany_Filth> and how i can set the root password
[09:13] <furgu> Jack1, I dont know what to tell you man... if root can't delete stuff in tmp yur screwed
[09:13] <furgu> Jack1, your not using the LiveCD anymore right?
[09:14] <Jack1> furgu thx .....theres some important stuff there no
[09:14] <furgu> Jack1, you might be able to destroy the partition and re-create it
[09:14] <Jack1> furgu but maybe can i that way get my stuff doen from the machine
[09:14] <furgu> Jack1, using fdisk
[09:14] <furgu> Jack1, but other than that I am baffled
[09:14] <Jack1> furgu i see or using gparted?
[09:15] <furgu> Jack1, gparted is graphical right? you need CLI only
[09:15] <furgu> ?
[09:15] <bleaked> Dany_Filth: if you don't know how to set the root password, i'm afraid you shouldn't be logging in as root.  So, anything you need to do as root, append the 'sudo' prefix to it.  so, sudo apt-get install, or sudo mkdir /mnt/media, or whatever it may be.
[09:15] <furgu> Jack1, maybe your LiveCD might come in handy now
[09:16] <furgu> Dany_Filth: 'sudo bash' to get a root shell
[09:16] <LiquidNerd_work> Dany_Filth: but to set the root password, do, "sudo passwd root"
[09:16] <LiquidNerd_work> but again, shouldn't login as root
[09:17] <LiquidNerd_work> though somtimes writting sudo 100 times gets really annoying
[09:17] <negocio> hi mens
[09:17] <negocio> i need help with dosemu
[09:17] <negocio> anyone knows?
[09:17] <furgu> ugh... I tried dosemu before with no luck
[09:18] <negocio> !dosemu
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about dosemu
[09:18] <LiquidNerd_work> !windows
[09:18] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[09:18] <furgu> !osx
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about osx
[09:18] <LiquidNerd_work> lol
[09:18] <furgu> !aix
[09:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about aix
[09:18] <furgu> hmmm
[09:19] <furgu> !ubotu
[09:19] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:19] <furgu> all knowing eh?
[09:19] <negocio> need help with dosemu
[09:19] <furgu> What is your question negocio?
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> Ubotu - Doesn't know anything I want to know
[09:19] <negocio> y need to mount /home/negocio/msdos as a hd
[09:19] <negocio> but i have some error
[09:20] <negocio> i add the line to fstab
[09:20] <dad> thanks DaSkreech
[09:20] <furgu> negocio, what is some error?  Be specific?
[09:20] <negocio> and then $mount /home/negocio/msdos
[09:20] <furgu> negocio, what language do you natively speak?
[09:20] <negocio> spanish
[09:20] <negocio> sorry
[09:21] <negocio> and when i try to mount it tell me:
[09:21] <furgu> Is there a spanish ubuntu channel?
[09:21] <negocio> bad system file
[09:21] <negocio> i dont know
[09:21] <LiquidNerd_work> !pickup lines
[09:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about pickup lines
[09:21] <furgu> try #ubuntu-es
[09:21] <cryptom> hi all, I'm using dapper on a thinkpad X40, I implemented EmulateWheelTimeout (and EmulateWheel and EmulateWheelButton), scrolling works, but pasting with the middle button is not possible?!
[09:22] <jpatrick> !es
[09:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:22] <cryptom> is this a known problem? thought it would be gone with dapper?!
[09:22] <furgu> hehehe
[09:22] <negocio> but about to give some help?
[09:22] <Jack1> furgu you are so right .
[09:22] <LiquidNerd_work> cryptom: is that a question?
[09:22] <furgu> I am?  W00t
[09:22] <negocio> there are 15 persons on that channel
[09:22] <negocio> here are 250
[09:23] <LiquidNerd_work> and they're all out to get you
[09:23] <negocio> i think that anyone can help me
[09:23] <cryptom> LiquidNerd_work, well, yes it is... is there a solution to have both: middle button scrolling _and_ pasting?
[09:23] <furgu> ok negocio, you can't mount your ms-dos partition?
[09:23] <negocio> no
[09:23] <negocio> i cant
[09:23] <negocio> i do not know why
[09:23] <LiquidNerd_work> is it fat or msdos?
[09:23] <furgu> What is your error negocio?
[09:23] <negocio> i add this line to fstab
[09:24] <word> you normally shouldn't have to add the line to fstab..you should just have to go into system settings - > hard discs and partitions - > then administrater mode and set a mount point and then enable it
[09:24] <word> negocio ^
[09:24] <LiquidNerd_work> cryptom: not sure.. does the middle button do anything at all currently?
[09:24] <negocio> dev/hda2 /home/negocio/msdos msdos umask=000
[09:24] <negocio> wait a minute
[09:24] <LiquidNerd_work> negocio: are you sure it's not vfat?
[09:24] <negocio> i dont know
[09:25] <negocio> how i check it?
[09:25] <LiquidNerd_work> fdisk
[09:25] <LiquidNerd_work> or just try mounting it as vfat
[09:25] <negocio> in terminal?
[09:25] <furgu> I would use System Settings first
[09:25] <cryptom> LiquidNerd_work, yes, the middle button works for scrolling
[09:25] <Healot> fdisk -l
[09:25] <furgu> per word suggestion
[09:25] <negocio> wait me a minute
[09:25] <LiquidNerd_work> no
[09:26] <furgu> heh
[09:26] <LiquidNerd_work> no waiting for you
[09:26] <kane_> is it a windows drive ?
[09:26] <kane_> anyway, it is more likely to be vfat than msdos
[09:26] <LiquidNerd_work> cryptom: is it a wheel?
[09:26] <LiquidNerd_work> I'm thinking if it's an msdos partition, kiss all your data goodbye because it's old dos and useless
[09:26] <cryptom> LiquidNerd_work, yes and no: Thinkpad trackpoint and usb wheel mouse (both work with scrolling now)
[09:27] <negocio> let me ask you liquid
[09:27] <negocio> i have a foxpro for DOS that i have to make work
[09:27] <negocio> i try dosbox
[09:27] <negocio> and qemu
[09:27] <negocio> i think that dosemu can handle
[09:28] <LiquidNerd_work> cryptom: Option          "Emulate3Buttons"       "true"
[09:28] <LiquidNerd_work> is that in your xorg.conf?
[09:28] <negocio> what kind of type do i setup to the new mounting point
[09:28] <negocio> ?
[09:29] <cryptom> LiquidNerd_work, I tried with it and without it... same effect (but in my conf, it said "on", not "true")
[09:29] <Jack1> furgu it says the files are just readable...even me being superuser
[09:30] <Jack1> furgu now using knoppix-cd
[09:30] <furgu> Jack1, the permissions shouldnt change... what are you trying to do that it says it is only readable?
[09:30] <furgu> Jack1, the /tmp partition might be mounted as read-only
[09:31] <furgu> Jack1, can you check that?
[09:32] <Jack1> furgu rights are drwxrwxrwx , root root
[09:33] <cryptom> LiquidNerd_work, my InputDevice Section looks like that: http://kris.koehntopp.de/service/paste/show.html?id=160
[09:33] <furgu> yah Jack1 I know... try looking at your fstab file to see how it is being mounted
[09:34] <Jack1> furgu ext3 noauto, users, exec 00
[09:36] <furgu> why the noauto and exec?
[09:36] <furgu> oh well
[09:36] <furgu> Jack1, try to destroy that partition and recreate I guess
[09:38] <Jack1> furgu it would help me right away if i could copy files from the /home directory but it says they are just readable...
[09:39] <bam_> how come when I eject my external usb drive it doesnt eject?
[09:39] <Jack1> furgu that 'd be enough
[09:39] <furgu> Jack1, Are you certain you mount /tmp as a seperate partition?
[09:40] <furgu> bam_, you should just need to sync then pull it out, by eject do you mean unmount?
[09:40] <bam_> no I unmounted it
[09:40] <Jack1> no it seems not....its on the /home partition somewhat
[09:41] <Jack1> furgu seeing it from here, my notes told me different
[09:41] <furgu> Jack1, so /tmp and /home are the same partition?  does your live-cd have an irc client?  it would be nice to see your fstab or df output
[09:41] <bam_> but normally in  the past I would eject it and the normal screen would appear and not the "usb connected" screen
[09:41] <nico8481> is there a way to try MacOS X on a PC running kubuntu (via some kind of virtual PC or something)?
[09:42] <ChefWill> whats the shortcut to select a window to kill in kubuntu?
[09:42] <Jack1> wait i copy it to the pastebin here
[09:43] <Healot> VMware doesn't support MacOSX, because it is created for PowerPC CPU...
[09:43] <edu> hi
[09:43] <Healot> but there is an OS 9 emulator out there, somewhere
[09:43] <furgu> nico8481: try pearpc
[09:43] <edu> hey people
[09:43] <edu> i need some help
[09:43] <Healot> and OSx86 project
[09:43] <skizzo21> Hey guys... I finished my Kubuntu install on one partition but when I went to install my XP on the other partition it auto boots to XP everytime I don't even get a selection screen... anyone know how to release XPs control?
[09:44] <Healot> !grub
[09:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:44] <edu> skizzo21, did you install grub?
[09:44] <skizzo21> uhhhhhhhhh
[09:44] <skizzo21> lol
[09:44] <skizzo21> i htought it auto installed
[09:44] <edu> nops
[09:44] <skizzo21> like before i had a screen to choose
[09:44] <edu> xD
[09:44] <nico8481> furgu: and what about OSX? is there an open version that i can run on top of pearpc? darwin maybe?
[09:44] <furgu> skizzo21, you need to install XP first then ubuntu after
[09:45] <skizzo21> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shit
[09:45] <furgu> nico8481: no legal version really... you can find torrents if your a pirate
[09:45] <edu> once it is installed, that screen appears
[09:45] <skizzo21> xp keeps runing my life one day at a time
[09:45] <edu> :)
[09:45] <nico8481> furgu: what about darwin?
[09:45] <furgu> nico8481: or if you have a friend with a mac that is easier
[09:45] <skizzo21> so xp first then kubuntu????
[09:45] <Healot> skizzo21: either way works
[09:45] <nico8481> furgu: not really :(
[09:45] <furgu> nico8481, might be able to find something...
[09:45] <Healot> if you know how to do it
[09:45] <skizzo21> wait... i already installed kubuntu
[09:46] <skizzo21> and then i instralled xp
[09:46] <skizzo21> o
[09:46] <skizzo21> lol
[09:46] <Healot> !grub
[09:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:46] <Jack1> furgu i cannot write to the usb stick from live cd it shall not be...i just need to get my home directory copyable....
[09:46] <Healot> follow those links
[09:46] <furgu> nico8481: try http://www.opendarwin.org/
[09:46] <skizzo21> is there a way to save it?? or am  I hosed
[09:46] <skizzo21> k
[09:46] <nico8481> thx
[09:46] <skizzo21> thanks everyone
[09:46] <Jack1> furgu to an usbstick
[09:46] <furgu> nico8481: I think it isn't an easy thing to do, you might need osx to compile anything
[09:46] <nico8481> hmm :-/
[09:47] <furgu> Jack1, sounds fuct, try to find a friend who might be able to sit down and look at it, if not find a way to back up and reinstall maybe...
[09:47] <furgu> Jack1, which LiveCD are you using?
[09:47] <nico8481> damn i'm tempted by the macbook but it's soo expensive... and sooo "light" (512MB ram *hum*)
[09:48] <Jack1> furgu knoppix 3.3, have here breezy ubuntu and kanotix
[09:48] <Blissex> nico8481: to be allowed to buy a MacBook you need to prove you have a goatte and a piercing...
[09:48] <furgu> nico8481, they do look nice... nice and expensive yes... wish they had AMD tho
[09:48] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Kanotix is the fastest is it not ?
[09:48] <nico8481> Blissex: what's a goatte?
[09:48] <furgu> Jack1, is that a really old version of Knoppix?  They are in 5.1 now...
[09:49] <Blissex> nico8481: a goatee, a thin bear on your chin.
[09:49] <Blissex> nico8481: a goatee, a thin beard on your chin.
[09:49] <nico8481> hmm i miss the piercing then :p
[09:49] <Blissex> nico8481: it helps if you also dress entirely in black :-)
[09:49] <furgu> Blissex, to run unix you need to prove you are smug and dont shower too
[09:49] <Jack1> furgu yes but it was for free and they sent me that one...
[09:50] <furgu> Jack1, download the newest version of the intarweb and burn it
[09:50] <Blissex> furgu: actually for UNIX the entry requirements used to be sandals and big glasses.
[09:50] <furgu> Blissex, did they cut the long hair requirements?
[09:50] <nico8481> damn hard decision :-/
[09:50] <Jack1> furgu the prob isnt so much the  fucked /tmp its more that icannot copy my homefiles with the livecd to usb and use it on the new lappie
[09:51] <Blissex> furgu: long hair or being bald usually :-)
[09:51] <furgu> Jack1, I know, a newer knoppix might help with that
[09:51] <Jack1> furgu ok i try
[09:51] <LiquidNerd_work> Jack1: can't use smb to transfer?
[09:51] <furgu> Blissex, I like the long hair with balding top option...
[09:51] <LiquidNerd_work> or if you can burn a cd, why not that option?
[09:51] <Blissex> furgu: a ponytail used to help become senior UNIX sysadm...
[09:52] <Jack1> LiquidNerd_work samba u mean? just got the internet cat5 cable right away would need buy a new cable
[09:52] <nico8481> then again, i guess there is more work being done to make linux work on the macbook than on any other laptop...
[09:52] <LiquidNerd_work> no router/hub?
[09:52] <Jack1> no LiquidNerd_work
[09:53] <LiquidNerd_work> ahh
[09:53] <LiquidNerd_work> and you can't burn it to a CD?
[09:53] <nico8481> and since i can' t find any *currently sold* (i don't count the outdated ones) laptop on which everything works with linux... and i don't want to use windows...
[09:53] <nico8481> leaves me only the macbook... :-/
[09:54] <LiquidNerd_work> nico8481: aren't there nfidia based notbooks?
[09:54] <nico8481> LiquidNerd_work: nvidia? maybe... why?
[09:54] <LiquidNerd_work> nico8481: well the nfidia (not nvidia) boards work perfectly with linux
[09:54] <furgu> nico8481: I have used some macs, I would recommend... try opendarwin I need to try it myself I dont think it has aqua with it tho
[09:55] <nico8481> LiquidNerd_work: yup but generally you still have lots of features that are broken... wifi/ suspend to ram/ stuff like that...
[09:56] <furgu> nfidia?
[09:56] <LiquidNerd_work> the wifi normally works with ndis, suspend to ram... I don't think that works with any notebook.. even on Windows...
[09:56] <LiquidNerd_work> furgu: the nvidia boards
[09:56] <LiquidNerd_work> well chipset for boards
[09:56] <LiquidNerd_work> ieL ASUS P5ND2-SLI
[09:56] <nico8481> well i mean to disk or whatever
[09:56] <LiquidNerd_work> s/ieL/ie:/
[09:56] <german> hi there
[09:57] <nico8481> "suspend" :-)
[09:57] <nico8481> hi
[09:57] <german> i need some support to install rubbrt or tex2pdf
[09:57] <german> i mean rubber
[09:58] <german> is here somebody who use one of this programms?
[09:58] <edu> hey, guys... i need some help to choose a linux-compatible laptop
[09:58] <nico8481> furgu: well if aqua's not there maybe it is doesn't really give you a preview of what it is to use OSX :-/
[09:58] <reagleBRKLN> howdy, i can't play mp3s on juk... I followed http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#mp3s and installed libxine-extracodecs
[09:58] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[09:59] <reagleBRKLN> juk: WARNING: Unable to play /e/mp3/indie/16 Horsepower/16 Horsepower - New Banjo.mp3
[09:59] <nico8481> german: nope, but have you tried to install them via apt ?
[09:59] <LiquidNerd_work> reagleBRKLN: yeah... that's why... look at the mp3... sheesh
[09:59] <edu> do you know any linux-compatible laptop?
[09:59] <DaSkreech> reagleBRKLN: What engine are you using?
[09:59] <reagleBRKLN> LiquidNerd_work: don't understand
[09:59] <LiquidNerd_work> lol
[09:59] <edu> i know nothing about notebooks
[09:59] <LiquidNerd_work> I'm saying it's not playing because it's a banjo song
[10:00] <reagleBRKLN> oh
[10:00] <reagleBRKLN> daschu: output to arts
[10:00] <LiquidNerd_work> yeah but you should be able to choose which engine it uses
[10:01] <reagleBRKLN> are you suggesting I use akode?
[10:01] <edu> one more question... users MUST be members of the group "audio" to be able to listen sounds?
[10:01] <nico8481> edu: yes i think so
[10:01] <Jack1> guys do u know how i would the windows key to do the opening of the kmenu?
[10:02] <LiquidNerd_work> edu: yeah.. but by defualt kubuntu adds them to it
[10:02] <german> @nico: did you get my messages?
[10:02] <Healot> because the sound deamon use that user group to be able to play audio
[10:02] <Jack1> i mean reassigning the key
[10:02] <nico8481> german: nope
[10:02] <edu> thanks nico, that's because i am listening silence lol
[10:02] <german> does /msg name not work?
[10:02] <german> or is it /whisper?
[10:03] <nico8481> it's /msg... but my nick is nico8481, not nico :)
[10:03] <edu> Liquid, i have created some users and ONLY are members of their own group... (personal group)
[10:03] <german> i know:) ok one more try
[10:03] <edu> and i am not able to listen nothing
[10:04] <reagleBRKLN> akode works
[10:05] <nico8481> german: is your registered on freenode? private messages from unregistered users are blocked...
[10:05] <Healot> KDE is German
[10:05] <german> ah, that's it. I'm not registered...
[10:05] <LiquidNerd_work> Jack1: System Settings / Regional & Accessibility / Keyboard Layout / Xkb Options / Third Level Choosers / Press any of Win-keys to choose 3rd level
[10:06] <german> @nico8481: I used aptitude install; but there are unsolved dependencies....
[10:06] <nico8481> unsolved?
[10:06] <Healot> !repos
[10:06] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:07] <edu> I see... the first user, that was created during the installation is member of "admin", "audio", "video" and more... but what about "normal" users?
[10:07] <nico8481> german: try "sudo apt-get install rubber"
[10:07] <Healot> !info rubber
[10:07] <ubotu> rubber: an automated system for building LaTeX documents. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 408 kB
[10:07] <german> @nico: i tried this, too...
[10:07] <Healot> edu:  the group "users"
[10:07] <nateman1352> hi everyone, I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 and I'm trying to get remote X clients to connect to my local X server via ssh and I can't seem to get it working (I am using ssh -X)
[10:07] <german> but it needs python <2.4....
[10:08] <edu> healot, but i need to add them manually... they are not members of "users" when created
[10:08] <german> and if i try to remove python2.4 to install one older version, must of my system will be removed (about 300mb)
[10:08] <Healot> !info python2.3
[10:08] <ubotu> python2.3: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.3). In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.3.5-9ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2728 kB, installed size 9368 kB
[10:08] <ljl> nateman1352: first problem if your xauth. second problem is that X is launched with TCP disabled by default. by i don't remember the details
[10:08] <Healot> install python2.3 then
[10:08] <fiyawerx> are there any suggested "install these first" guides for kubuntu?
[10:09] <Healot> kubuntu.org
[10:09] <german> i could not install python2.3 without removing 2.4...
[10:09] <Healot> just follow the FAQ links
[10:09] <edu> Healot: but i need to add them manually... they are not members of "users" when created
[10:09] <german> and i dont want to loose about 300megs
[10:10] <german> thats most of kde
[10:10] <Healot> edu: you can add a user to users group when you're using GUI
[10:10] <furgu> nateman1352, what is your error?
[10:10] <fiyawerx> Healot: the only thing really there is about mp3s on http://kubuntu.org/faq.php
[10:10] <Healot> or command line even
[10:10] <edu> Healot: I know
[10:10] <Healot> fiyawerx: yup one of the essential
[10:10] <kosh> german: that seems strange I have python 2.3 and 2.4 both installed right now and used for different things
[10:10] <kosh> german: python 2.3 does not conflict with 2.4
[10:10] <edu> Healot: I'm just saying that users are not members of "users" by default
[10:10] <furgu> ljl, i have no problem with tunneling X thru ssh by default install
[10:10] <Healot> edu: what seem to bother you then, edu?
[10:10] <fiyawerx> yeah, i was thinking about like firefox, plugins, java, etc..
[10:11] <fiyawerx> altho i guess i could look at everything automatix does and just do the ones i want manually
[10:11] <Healot> !firefox
[10:11] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:11] <Healot> !flash
[10:11] <german> just a moment, i try to install python2.3...
[10:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:11] <Healot> !java
[10:11] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:11] <edu> Healot: my users cannot listen any sound
 are you alive?
[10:11] <fiyawerx> ok, those are nice, it would be nice to have them in one guide too tho :)
[10:11] <Jack1> furgu with kanotix 04-2005 it works now so i transfer the kmail, knode, etc files by hand...thank u
[10:11] <fiyawerx> Healot: thanks
[10:11] <Healot> edu: add them to audio user group then?
[10:12] <kosh> the biggest advantage of a 64bit system is stuff like flash stops working :)
[10:12] <furgu> Jack1 np, try deleting the files off your partition with the new version of knoppix also
[10:12] <german> thats the message i get: Reading extended state information
[10:12] <german> Initializing package states... Fertig
[10:12] <german> No candidate version found for python2.3
[10:12] <german> The following packages will be automatically REMOVED: rubber
[10:12] <german> The following packages have been kept back: libmysqlclient14
[10:12] <german> The following packages will be REMOVED: rubber
[10:12] <german> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[10:12] <edu> Healot: ok, I'll try... thanks... but it's funny... isn't it?
[10:12] <german> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 248kB will be freed.
[10:12] <Jack1> furgu right i do
[10:12] <edu> Healot: I mean, it's weird...
[10:12] <Healot> i have like 6 users in my home network... ssh -X or vnc work like automagic, sounds, graphics printers
[10:12] <kosh> german: so it looks like one package will be removed that has something to do with latex documents
[10:13] <Healot> edu: it's the matter how much you know... not weird btw :)
[10:13] <kosh> german: what version of kubuntu are you running?
[10:13] <german> Breeyt badger
[10:13] <fiyawerx> will things that say This is for i386 work on i686 as well? or no
[10:13] <german> Breezy badger
[10:14] <Healot> fiyawerx: what things?
[10:14] <edu> Healot: I think that users must be able to use audio devices by default, it's weird they can't do it
[10:14] <Healot> i686 is just like i386 enhanced
[10:14] <fiyawerx> Healot: looking at the firefox wiki entry, it says .. right, thats what i thought, it says i386 vs amd64, so what they really mean is x86
[10:14] <Healot> edu: I don't understand that either, ask developers for that
[10:15] <Healot> amd64 is just the 64bit port, fiyawerx, same fundamental but different workaround
[10:15] <Jack1> furgu it doesnt work anyway it doesnt matter i got a new subnotebook+
[10:15] <kosh> german: that just seems strange, make sure that universe is enabled and then try again just in case
[10:16] <german> you mean in my sources.list
[10:16] <edu> Healot: ok, thank you very much
[10:16] <Healot> btw, ubuntu only has three official ports, i386, amd64 and ppc...
[10:16] <Healot> i386 release can use the i686 kernel btw...
[10:16] <fiyawerx> Healot: thats what I did, upgraded to the 686 kernel
[10:16] <kosh> german: yes
[10:16] <Healot> waiting for the multiport release! edgy eft
[10:16] <fiyawerx> Healot: havn't really noticed a difference, just figured i'd try it, don't even know what the differences are
[10:17] <kosh> there are almost no differences performance wise between an i386 and i686 kernel
[10:17] <Healot> fiyawerx: that doesn't affect anything... well i mean the flash etc installation
[10:17] <kosh> however if you had a 486 or 586 processor there are pretty large advantages to running the appropriate kernel
[10:17] <german> ok, here are the lines:deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[10:17] <german> deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[10:17] <kosh> okay so they are there then
[10:17] <fiyawerx> right, i mean in general what does it do? I know there was mention of support for hyperthreading, which my processer has, but i don't even know mucha bout that
[10:18] <german> but it doesnt work
[10:18] <kosh> so try doing sudo apt-get update    sudo apt-get install python2.3
[10:18] <german> just a moment...
[10:18] <kosh> fiyawerx: hyperthreading does not do much
[10:18] <Healot> python2.3 and 3.4 can coexist
[10:19] <Healot> SMP is the real thing
[10:19] <kosh> fiyawerx: however if you had multiple processors or multiple core processors then you would need an smp kernel
[10:19] <kosh> Healot: not they can not .... 3.4 does not exist yet they are only working on the beta for 2.5 right now :)
[10:19] <Healot> damn, I can do that with previous breezy and hoary
[10:20] <kosh> Healot: python 1.5 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 and 2.5 can all coexist but 3.4 can't since it does not exist :)
[10:20] <Healot> 2.4 TYPO :)
[10:20] <german> it seems, that i can't connect to archive.kubuntu.de breezy/universe at this time...
[10:21] <Healot> i know that, just overlooked what i typed
[10:21] <kosh> ah well that would be a problem then since I think that is where the package you need is
[10:22] <german> #gaaaah# i think nobody know when the server will be reachable again :)
[10:22] <Healot> KDE is German :)
[10:22] <rickz> DCC SEND "BBQHAX" 0 0 0
[10:22] <german> ???
[10:22] <furgu> Healot you are a wealth of knowledge
[10:23] <Healot> just like to play around with the "KDE is German" propaganda
[10:23] <german> aha, whats up with this "propaganda"?
[10:23] <german> i haven't heard about it.
[10:24] <ryanakca> hmmmm... this is for the Xorg people... why do I get this error when trying to upgrade the fglrx driver (the ubuntu package seems to be broken when it comes to gl...) http://pastebin.ca/73408
[10:24] <furgu> Maybe its just ATI ryanakca
[10:25] <furgu> I have heard there are lots of issues with their drivers being broken by default
[10:25] <ryanakca> maybe
[10:25] <Healot> ryanakca: third party, not really supported, and aTi installer is evil, it broke your ubuntu system at most the of time
[10:25] <KuLover> ryanakca What card are you in?
[10:25] <KuLover> on*
[10:25] <ryanakca> lol... ok... so ATI driver is busted :)...
[10:25] <Healot> use the stock module from linux-restricted-module instead
[10:25] <ryanakca> Radeon 9200 SE
[10:25] <nep87> why kde is better than gnome?
[10:26] <Healot> KDE is German :)
[10:26] <furgu> nep87 KDE pwns GNOME
[10:26] <Healot> hohoho
[10:26] <Healot> nah, I joke
[10:26] <ryanakca> nep87: bad question... it'll start a Desktop Environment war :P
[10:26] <Healot> !ati
[10:26] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:26] <ryanakca> but... It's nicer... and because I like it :)
[10:26] <furgu> nep87 KDE got in a fight with Chuck Norris and killed him with the twitch of a GUI
[10:26] <furgu> nep87 that is REAL ULTIMATE POWER
[10:26] <nep87> :)
[10:26] <Healot> ryanakca: that the link to install...
[10:27] <centyx> How do you make the Backspace key send CTRL-H in KDE, particularly Konsole?
[10:27] <Healot> you need to supply the fake X version before installing ati driver in dapper
[10:27] <furgu> cyntyx do you have a broken backspace key?
[10:27] <ryanakca> hmmm... wiki keeps on forwarding to help.ubuntu.com/*
[10:27] <german> so, the server is "online", perhaps it will work now...
[10:27] <nep87> but kde sometimes freezs
[10:27] <furgu> nep87 must be UE
[10:27] <nep87> ue?
[10:27] <furgu> nep87 yes, cause be l-users...
[10:28] <german> is here somebody who uses "fluxbox" :)
[10:28] <centyx> furgu: seriously, how do I get backspace to act like ctrl-h in konsole :P
[10:28] <furgu> centyx, does your problem happen outside of konsole?
[10:28] <centyx> no
[10:29] <centyx> i can backspace in other applications
[10:29] <edu> one more question, please :P
[10:29] <driz> HEllo
[10:29] <furgu> centyx, I mean other terminals...?  not random apps but xterm or any shell
[10:29] <centyx> ah
[10:29] <centyx> sorry
[10:29] <centyx> lemme see
[10:30] <centyx> furgu: works in xterm ok
[10:30] <weedar> I'd lovet to be able to turn off the sound in Konsole forever, not just for the current session. Anyone? :)
[10:30] <german> *wuw* it works, thank you all ;) ;) ;)
[10:30] <edu> in my "/etc/group" file i have found a group called "users"... my question: all users are member of this group BY DEFAULT when created?
[10:30] <KuLover> Could someone please take a look at my fstab? I'm not sure that it is written correctly. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16640
[10:30] <furgu> centyx, try different options under Settings -> Keyboard
[10:30] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know how to set a key combination to the "Desktop Access" applet?
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> weedar: I just disable the kde sound server entirely -
[10:31] <uniq> edu: no, every user has its own group by default.
[10:31] <furgu> in Konsole centyx
[10:31] <slow-motion> n8
[10:31] <uniq> edu: this is configured in /etc/adduser.conf
[10:31] <centyx> furgu: I've tried 'linux console' and 'xterm xfree 4.x.x', I'll try something else
[10:31] <edu> uniq: yes, I know... but what Secondary Groups are assigned by default?
[10:32] <Healot> KuLover: need to compare that with the output of "fdisk -l"
[10:32] <uniq> edu: none.
[10:32] <edu> uniq: thanks!! very helpful
[10:33] <centyx> furgu: hm. vt420pc worked. none of the others did tho.
[10:33] <centyx> that's odd.
[10:33] <ryanakca> why do some wiki's say reboot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI     couldn't I just go ctrl-alt-backspace? I thought you only had to reboot after kernel upgrade...
[10:33] <furgu> weird, dunno... other option is look at the stty command
[10:33] <furgu> stty erase ^H or something
[10:33] <nep87> do you have troubles with usb devices such as pen drives, mp3 reader??
[10:33] <centyx> thanks
[10:34] <Healot> ryanakca: after compilign ati driver, you need to restart
[10:34] <furgu> np
[10:34] <uniq> ryanakca: the wiki and helpers often tell you to reboot even though it is not strictly needed. But it's some times the fastest and easiest way to get everything going the right way.
[10:34] <weedar> h3sp4wn: thanks for the suggestion. That is one solution, yes, but then I'll miss out on all of the other interesting KDE sounds? :-O
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> weedar: They just annoy me the kde sounds
[10:35] <edu> uniq: I have a problem with my audio device... I can only use it when I log in as root! Any idea?
[10:35] <uniq> edu: check that you're in the 'audio' group.
[10:35] <h3sp4wn> edu: Add your user to the audio group
[10:35] <juan_> Are you following the France vs. Spain ? Who is winning?
[10:35] <Healot> juan_: watch the TV?
[10:36] <edu> uniq, h3sp4wn: so, users can't handle audio devices by default?
[10:36] <trispace> hi, does somebody know where the konqueror user agent string is set?
[10:36] <Healot> web, radio or SMS services?
[10:36] <juan_> healot: right here I don't have tv
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> edu: The first one should automatically be able to
[10:36] <uniq> edu: no. Only the user added during install.
[10:36] <fiyawerx> hmm, when i made an icon for firefox with the kde menu editor it works ok, but when i launch it, the little bouncing icon isn't colored at all
[10:36] <furgu> trispace, if I recall correctly, I think it is in a binary file somewhere... are you trying to change it?
[10:36] <juan_> healot: well, I was just asking here, that's another way
[10:36] <LjL> trispace: settings / configure konqueror / browser identification
[10:36] <Healot> trispace: Tools -> Change Browser Identification
[10:36] <furgu> guess not
[10:36] <edu> uniq, h3sp4wn: ok, thanks a lot!
[10:36] <furgu> nevermind
[10:37] <uniq> edu: there are other groups for access to other devices/actions. Like 'plugdev' for removable devices for example.
[10:37] <|lostbyte|> Is it worth learning linux on a vm ?
 sure
[10:37] <Healot> or Settings - > configure konq. select browser identification, trispace
 - try cygwin... good way to start
[10:38] <Healot> |lostbyte|: worth every cent buying VMware
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> furgu, THen what will hardware be recognized as ?
[10:38] <furgu> |lostbyte| but it can be hard to setup X Windows
[10:38] <Healot> sup min lee, worked out your duo-screen yet?
[10:38] <trispace> basically i wanted to remove the "Kubuntu 6.06 Dapper" string
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> furgu, ok !
[10:38] <edu> uniq: do you mean, floppies, CDs... ?
[10:38] <KuLover> Healot, Ive added my Fdisk to the pastebin http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16655
[10:38] <furgu> |lostbyte| there are different ways to do it but usually it recognizes as very generic devices
[10:38] <min> Healot: no.
[10:38] <min> sigh
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> furgu, why ?
[10:39] <min> o yea
[10:39] <min> now I have this problem
[10:39] <|lostbyte|> furgu, thats what i thought.
[10:39] <furgu> |lostbyte| Cygwin could use a more user-friendly installation system... thats all
[10:39] <german> good night, good fight!
[10:39] <german> cu all!
[10:39] <Healot> |lostbyte|: the hardware will be configured by the vm program that you're using
[10:40] <min> Healot: I got most of it done
[10:40] <uniq> edu: yes, those too. dialout, floppy, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin (printing adm), scanner, etc.
[10:40] <min> Healot: Except now its http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[10:40] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[10:40] <marcus__> Someone having a VM problem?
[10:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> furgu: What not colinux instead of cygwin ?
[10:40] <min> whats a vm problem?
[10:40] <Healot> KuLover:  /dev/sdi is ext2/3 partition but you entry says reiserfs?
[10:40] <min> http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[10:40] <edu> uniq: I see, thanks again!
[10:41] <furgu> h3sp4wn, have you tried to use colinux?  For me it was even worse than Cygwin
[10:41] <marcus__> Noticed something scroll by about VM Config
[10:41] <edu> see you!
[10:41] <marcus__> Guessing VM means Virtual Machine?
[10:41] <furgu> h3sp4wn, nice idea, but poorly executed
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> furgu: I have only done it once but it wasn't that bad (once it was configured)
[10:42] <furgu> h3sp4wn, I never got past trying to get it to run, but I admit I didn't spend a lot of time on it either
[10:42] <Healot> btw, most of your partitions are ext2/3, but the entries of the partition say reiserfs, so there is something wrong
[10:42] <Healot> KuLover:
[10:42] <KuLover> Healot.. Odd.. I formated them As ReiserFS
[10:43] <marcus__> Hmmmm...
[10:43] <KuLover> Healot How can you tell they are ext's?
[10:43] <Healot> KuLover: they are still 83/82 (linux partitions)
[10:43] <Healot> min: do you have output on both screen?
[10:44] <min> the other monitor is broken remember?
[10:44] <min> but yea it lit up
[10:44] <min> (got smashed by baseball
[10:44] <driz> How come i can't directly install flash player?
[10:44] <min> Imm abe right back
[10:44] <min> think of ideas to fix this.
[10:44] <min> =] 
[10:45] <KuLover> Healot I know the main partition is ReiserFS, I formated it during the install.. The other ones I formated with Gparted. Why would they by 83s?
[10:45] <Healot> driz: using what, the Adobe's package or from repos or prompted by firefox/konq?
[10:45] <furgu> driz, you need the flashplugin-nonfree
[10:45] <driz> prompted
[10:46] <driz> i have that
[10:46] <marcus__> Just wondering..... What is Kubuntu's problem with Windows hal32.dll?
[10:46] <Healot> marcus__: it's a windows dll?
[10:46] <furgu> driz, you installed that package with apt or synaptic or adept or something?
[10:46] <driz> apt-get i tried it again it says i have it
[10:46] <uniq> kulover: 0x83 is correct for reiserfs as far as i know.
[10:46] <KuLover> Healot, could it be the disklabel?
[10:46] <furgu> driz, which browser?
[10:47] <marcus__> ?
[10:47] <driz> firefox
[10:47] <furgu> which version"?
[10:47] <KuLover> uniq, Could you take a look at this? Is there anythign wrong? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16655
[10:47] <driz> furgu i dont know
[10:47] <KuLover> uniq It contains both my fdisk and fstab
[10:47] <uniq> kulover: looking.
[10:47] <Healot> KuLover: but the partitions mounted properly?
[10:47] <furgu> in firefox do Help -> About Firefox
[10:48] <driz> Gecko/20060608 Ubuntu/dapper-security Firefox/1.5.0.4
[10:48] <uniq> kulover: and what is the problem?
[10:48] <furgu> driz, did you completely close firefox before trying the flash page again?
[10:48] <KuLover> Healot Yes, I can use them succesfully. The only problem is that durin boot, it hangs while "checking filesystems" then switched to text mode and continues bootinf after a few seconds.
[10:48] <driz> ya
[10:48] <furgu> driz, you have to make sure any 'Downloads' windows are closed too
[10:49] <Healot> ohh.... reiserfs does use 83...
[10:49] <KuLover> uniq The only problem is that durin boot, it hangs while "checking filesystems" then switched to text mode and continues bootinf after a few seconds.
[10:49] <juan_> France won. The fun is over
[10:49] <driz> yup
[10:49] <juan_> Damn frenchies :)
[10:49] <Healot> i think ubuntu think it's an ext2/3, so the disk check fails... KuLover
[10:49] <driz> i just closed and opened firefox again
[10:50] <Healot> but I don't think it will affect anything that much
[10:50] <furgu> driz, try 'sudo /usr/sbin/update-flashplugin'
[10:51] <driz> nothing happened
[10:52] <driz> it went back to normal
[10:52] <juan_> A fast question: dapper freezes the machine after leaving it unatended for 1-2 hours (sometimes it takes a longer time). Do you know if is there any log with traces with the system execution?
[10:52] <juan_> I'm really lost
[10:53] <juan_> I suppose it could be the power management
[10:53] <furgu> driz, you tried restart firefox and no luck?
[10:53] <KuLover> uniq Any ideas? :/
[10:54] <Kr4t05> Someone answer a question for me... I have two different SuperKaramba themes installed, one says I'm only using  ~270MB of RAM, the other reports ~900MB or RAM being used. Which is right?
[10:54] <zorglu1> juan_: i small like you should add 'acpi=off' as a boot option in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:54] <uniq> kulover: checking.. how long does it hang? do you kill it manually to make it continue? (ctrl-c)
[10:54] <juan_> zorglu1: thank you. I'll give it a try. BTW, what am I losing if I do that ?
[10:54] <driz> furgu I just went to newgrounds
[10:54] <driz> nothing
[10:55] <KuLover> Uniq, No I just wait.. about 30 sec
[10:55] <uniq> kulover: does it hang once on every disk?
[10:55] <zorglu1> juan_: the ability to 'hibernat' your box to consume less energy
[10:55] <KuLover> Uniq I dont know.. it doesnt say anything.. just hangs then [ok] 
[10:55] <kosh> Kr4t05: both and neither
[10:56] <furgu> whats in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/?
[10:56] <kosh> Kr4t05: figuring out memory usage is not exact by a long shot, so depending on how they are figuring out how much memory is being used they are probably both correct and also both off by a long shot
[10:56] <Kr4t05> Yeah, we came to that conclusion in -offtopic
[10:56] <uniq> kulover: what does it say just before it says OK ? Checking local filesystems or something?
[10:56] <furgu> driz ^
[10:56] <KuLover> Uniq Yes
[10:56] <driz> furgu it works
[10:57] <driz> pandora.com
[10:57] <driz> THANKS!!!
[10:57] <furgu> driz np
[10:57] <driz> oh would shockwave work also
[10:57] <uniq> kulover: checking all filesystems ?
[10:57] <rjb> hi, anyone using the nvidia video driver & seeing outrageous memory usage like me?
[10:57] <KuLover> Uniq Yeah! Thats it!
[10:58] <kosh> rjb: memory usage is not real most likely
[10:58] <rjb> oh yes it is
[10:58] <kosh> rjb: the nvidia driver maps the same memory many times on the card
[10:58] <kosh> rjb: how do you know the memory usage is real?
[10:58] <rjb> i got my kde panel & firefox killed by the oom killer
[10:58] <zorglu1> good criteria :)
[10:58] <rjb> on various ocassions
[10:58] <kosh> that seems bizaar
[10:59] <kosh> are you using something like xgl? how much main memory do you have?
[10:59] <rjb> xserver's virt. size grows up to over 2 gigs
[10:59] <rjb> i got 1 GB ram + 3 GB swap
[10:59] <kosh> rjb: if you change to the free nvidia 2d only driver does the problem go away?
[10:59] <Healot> i think ubuntu think it's an ext2/3, so the disk check fails... KuLover >> Already note this to you
[10:59] <rjb> kosh: right on
[10:59] <Kr4t05> kosh, XGL, TwinView, and I have 1gb
[11:00] <kosh> rjb: okay can you disable xgl and go use the free driver and see what happens? if that is okay could you use the proprietary driver without xgl and see what happens? also what verison of the driver are you using?
[11:00] <rjb> & no i wasn't using any extraordinary video features
[11:00] <rjb> just standard installed stuff
[11:01] <kosh> they released a new driver yesterday it looks like
[11:01] <rjb> the driver was current out of kubuntu's repo
[11:01] <AlexTeleCentro> What the command what i use to restart my X?!?!?!?
[11:01] <rjb> i junked it yesterday ;)
[11:01] <kosh> oh wait that was just for 64bit that had a driver update yesterday
[11:01] <rjb> well i'm on amd64 indeed
[11:02] <Healot> while in desktop = Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, AlexTeleCentro
[11:02] <rjb> should have mentioned that
[11:02] <Healot> while in the black only screen "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart"
[11:02] <AlexTeleCentro> Healot: my X service, in gnome i use /etc/initd/gdm restart
[11:03] <Healot> if you're using Kubuntu...
[11:03] <kosh> rjb: so can you try running with the free software driver and see if the same problem occurs? also you might want to consider downloading http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_amd64_1.0-8762.html
[11:03] <rjb> well in fact i did enable composite & tried shadows & translucency as configured in kde's options
[11:03] <Healot>  "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" then
[11:03] <rjb> but it was too slow & hogged the cpu
[11:03] <kosh> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72488   there is the information on that driver
[11:03] <AlexTeleCentro> Healot: i use now Kubuntu
[11:03] <Healot>  "sudo invoke-rc.d kdm restart" then
[11:03] <kosh> rjb: so are you using xgl?
[11:03] <rjb> kosh: the nv driver gives no suchproblems
[11:04] <rjb> nope, no xgl
[11:04] <rjb> just the composite extention
[11:04] <rjb> plain old xorg xserver
[11:04] <BKaj> anyone install google earth linux ? It's supposed to work but it won't laucnch due to 2 missing lib files , libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 and libXcursor.so.1 . Thses files aren't in any repositories that i can find in Adept or Synaptic ...any clues where they might be ?
[11:04] <uniq> kulover: i don't find anything usefull.. it basically checks whether is is needed to fsck the disks.
[11:04] <furgu> BKaj, use apt-file
[11:05] <rjb> kosh: thanks for the link, i'll check it out
[11:05] <furgu> BKaj, do you know how to use the CLI for apt/
[11:05] <furgu> ?
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> rjb: libxcursor1 package
[11:06] <furgu> libxcursor1, libgtk2.0-0
[11:06] <furgu> BKaj ^
[11:06] <kosh> you might want to turn off composite also, update the driver and see if there is anything on that link that will help
[11:07] <kosh> ie just try and cut variables out
[11:07] <rjb> kosh: thx, i'll give it another spin in a few days
[11:08] <rjb> kosh: in fact i mainly wanted nvidia in order to make composite work better
[11:08] <rjb> otherwise nv works just fine
[11:08] <rjb> i don't play 3d games
[11:09] <BKaj> furgu: I don't have it
[11:10] <BKaj> CLI ?
[11:10] <furgu> BKaj, you can install apt-file, it is a package
[11:10] <furgu> BKaj, but the packages you need for your app are libxcursor1 and libgtk2.0-0
[11:10] <BKaj> lemme check , I think I install apt already
[11:10] <TheHighChild> Does anyone know if a current Konqueor session can be given root permissions?
[11:10] <furgu> BKaj, apt-file is a seperate package
[11:11] <furgu> it is a helpful tool
[11:11] <furgu> BKaj, CLI = Command Line Interface, a shell, terminal, prompt, etc
[11:11] <BKaj> yup furgu, apt is installed
[11:12] <furgu> arg, bad BKaj
[11:12] <BKaj> I can do some stuff in the console
[11:12] <furgu> BKaj, just install libxcursor1 and libgtk2.0-0
[11:13] <BKaj> I tried to but it can't find the pkg
[11:13] <BKaj> sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:13] <gatekeeper> TheHighChild: Select Run Command... and try kdesu Konqueor
[11:14] <BKaj> furgu: ?
[11:14] <furgu> BKaj, they are there... which program are you using?
[11:14] <BKaj> I wondering whwere the pkgs are ?
[11:14] <uniq> nite.
[11:15] <TheHighChild> gatekeeper: Will that give root permissions to the currently running session?
[11:15] <BKaj> where
[11:15] <furgu> BKaj, sorry... try  'sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0'
[11:15] <furgu> no ./
[11:15] <cbo> please i need some hint on how to set up hostname on boot up, like install script does, to use the same hd image on several computers
[11:16] <gatekeeper> TheHighChild: it should bring up an instance of Konqueor with root permissions
[11:16] <rjb> cbo: /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[11:16] <TheHighChild> gatekeeper: Ok. That's what I thought. I am trying to give a current session root. Not a big deal, just curious if it could be done. Thanks for your help.
[11:16] <BKaj> furgu:
[11:16] <BKaj> sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:16] <BKaj> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:17] <furgu> BKaj, close whatever graphical program you have open for package management
[11:17] <gatekeeper> TheHighChild: why? what are you trying to do?
[11:17] <TheHighChild> gatekeeper: Just trying to figure out what I can and cannot do. Nothing that I can't work around.
[11:18] <cbo> rjb: thanks, but i think /etc/hostname is to put hostname 'by hand' i need the computer to 'query' for its hostname, just when you install for the 1st time
[11:18] <gatekeeper> TheHighChild: OK just be carefull if you Konqueor root permissions
[11:18] <BKaj> furgu: no luck , couldn't find pkg
[11:19] <furgu> cut & paste the error please
[11:19] <BKaj> sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:19] <BKaj> Reading package lists... Done
[11:19] <BKaj> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:19] <BKaj> E: Couldn't find package
[11:19] <TheHighChild> gatekeeper: I guess it would have been more appropriate to ask if I can give root permission to a currently running process or if it has to be initiated as such.
[11:19] <TheHighChild> BKaj: remove the ./
[11:19] <furgu> BKaj... BAD BKAJ...
[11:20] <rjb> cbo: you mean dhcp?
[11:20] <BKaj> sudo apt-get install ./libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:20] <BKaj> Reading package lists... Done
[11:20] <BKaj> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:20] <BKaj> E: Couldn't find package
[11:20] <furgu> BKaj... I dont want to stab my eye with this pen... Really I dont
[11:20] <BKaj> oops
[11:21] <BKaj> sudo apt-get install libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:21] <BKaj> Reading package lists... Done
[11:21] <BKaj> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:21] <BKaj> E: Couldn't find package libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[11:21] <furgu> What version of ubuntu are you running BKaj?
[11:21] <BKaj> 6.06 AMD64
[11:21] <gatekeeper> TheHighChild: can't say I know how you would do that, not even sure it would be desirable from a security point of view, would give a hacker/cracker a point of vunrability to go after
[11:21] <furgu> 'doh
[11:22] <furgu> BKaj.. sorry man
[11:22] <furgu> sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0
[11:22] <furgu> that should work
[11:22] <cbo> rjb: when i install kubuntu in a computer, and i'm asked for a hostname, its full-name is offered to me as default. Previously i have configured the MAC for this machine in a dhcp server, who gives it a valid ip and name. But i plan to use the same hd image in several computers, so i need a way to establish the name during boot for each one.
[11:22] <furgu> and then
[11:22] <BKaj> furgu:  I found some lib files for 64 bit but thy were mandriva and fedora core
[11:23] <furgu> sudo apt-get install libxcursor1
[11:23] <furgu> BKaj, I gave you the wrong package name... my bad
[11:23] <furgu> BKaj, try that ^^^
[11:23] <TheHighChild> cbo:  You can set the hostname in /etc/hosts
[11:24] <BKaj> Reading package lists... Done
[11:24] <BKaj> Building dependency tree... Done
[11:24] <BKaj> libxcursor1 is already the newest version.
[11:24] <BKaj> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:25] <gatekeeper> cbo: there is a CLI command which will change the name for that session
[11:25] <furgu> How about the other one?  'sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0'
[11:25] <rjb> cbo: i think i'd tweak it manually
[11:26] <BKaj> furgu: same msg
[11:26] <cbo> i was hoping there was a daemon to do that.....
[11:26] <gatekeeper> cbo: If man:hostname it will give you the info you need
[11:26] <furgu> BKaj, copy and paste the exact error when you run google earth
[11:26] <BKaj> maybe google earth won't run on 64s
[11:26] <BKaj> lemme check
[11:27] <TheHighChild> BKaj: I didn't have trouble
[11:27] <furgu> Shouldnt matter
[11:27] <TheHighChild> try "linux32 ./GoogleEarth"
[11:27] <cbo> gatekeeper: i need a system which 'asks' for its hostname every boot....
[11:27] <rjb> cbo: my guess is one could write a custom boot script to set the hostname based on dhcp
[11:28] <rjb> but i don't know how to get that info from the dhclient
[11:28] <trappist> BKaj: I run mine in a 32bit chroot
[11:28] <cbo> rjb: i think it has to be an standard way to do it
[11:29] <rjb> cbo: not that i know
[11:29] <cbo> rjb: nor do i :-). thanks anyway for your comments
[11:29] <rjb> i haven't seen it done that way, other than by installers
[11:30] <cbo> rjb: yes instalers do it, i will have to 'dissect' it or post a question somewhere....
[11:31] <rjb> cbo: actually the sequence should be like: set a temp hostname, ifconfig with dhcp, rev dns query your own address, set hostname based on what you got
[11:31] <BKaj> furgu:
[11:31] <BKaj> nstalling desktop menu entries...
[11:31] <BKaj> ./googleearth-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libXcursor.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:32] <gatekeeper> cbo: sounds like you want a little c++ program to run at boot up?
[11:32] <rjb> gatekeeper" ???
[11:32] <cbo> rjb: i'll do it until i find the standard way of doing it, thanks for your suggestion
[11:32] <furgu> BKaj, dunno I am stumped... try the above suggestions... could set LD_LIBRARY_PATH but that prob wont help
[11:32] <rjb> wtf does that have to do w/c++ ?
[11:32] <cbo> gatekeeper: sorry don't understand... why c++?
[11:33] <rjb> it's like 5 lines of shell script
[11:34] <cbo> rjb: i agree
[11:34] <BKaj> yeah furgu, no prob ...Thx , i appreciate the efforts just the same :)...no one said Linux was easy :)
[11:35] <gatekeeper> cbo: if you can get a bash script to ask the user fine, haven't done much bash scripting myself, main come a c++ programing background so was thinking a simple dialog program to ask the question and do the necessary, probable many ways to do it :-)
[11:35] <trappist> BKaj: apt-get install libxcursor1
[11:35] <furgu> trappist, we tried that
[11:35] <trappist> oh
[11:35] <furgu> thanks for playing tho
[11:35] <trappist> well I mentioned I run it from a 32bit chroot on mine
[11:35] <rjb> gatekeeper: what do you want to ask the user?
[11:36] <patch> hello all
[11:36] <furgu> yeah BKaj, try these other guy's ideas
[11:36] <patch> could anyone please help me out with a few grub questions
[11:36] <gatekeeper> rjb: cbo wanted to ask the user the hostname on boot up
[11:36] <BKaj> I have google earth on the NTFS partition (windoes) so it's no biggie , just be more convenient on both is all
[11:37] <rjb> gatekeeper: no, afaics he wanted to query dhcp for the hostname
[11:37] <cbo> gatekeeper: i see... well in this case its preferable a console program which silently does it, c++ not the best choice i think, better bash or python
[11:37] <BKaj> running root as 32 is a little beyond my understanding
[11:37] <patch> i just want to have a dual boot, but im reinstalling windows and my current grub in on the mbr. so i want to move to a /boot partition
[11:38] <gatekeeper> cbo: I misunderstood, thought you wanted user interaction, sorry :-)
[11:38] <BKaj> it won't let me become root anyway for some reason
[11:38] <rjb> while on dhcp.. why might a dhcp server sometimes take a loooong time to respond?
[11:38] <patch> but i cant find any plain documentation on how to do this change from mbr to /boot
[11:38] <cbo> gatekeeper: any suggestion is wellcome :-)
[11:39] <trappist> BKaj: there's a 32bit chroot howto on the wiki.  I use it for mplayer, firefox, etc. because a lot of proprietary apps aren't available in 64 bit.  the chroot's very nice to have around, and worth the effort, if you're running 64bit.
[11:39] <gatekeeper> cbo: if you want it done silently a bash program would probable be best as you say
[11:40] <BKaj> patch: try GAG as an Mbr if you're trying to rescue your windows parition.... it installs on the first portion of the HDD and fins all the OSs and partitions then you have to assign them a boot # ...works well after dumpimg linux distros that strip the mbr
[11:40] <cbo> gatekeeper: anyway, i'm sure there has to be a standard way of doing this, as it seems a very common problem...
[11:41] <BKaj> thx trappist, what is chroot , anyway ?
[11:41] <furgu> cbo: what is your exact problem again?
[11:41] <furgu> cbo: prompt the user for the hostname?
[11:42] <trappist> BKaj: it's a fake filesystem where in this case you'll be filling it with 32bit libs
[11:42] <furgu> change hostname from DHCP?
[11:43] <rjb> furgu: the latter (or cbo will correct me ;-)
[11:43] <cbo> furgu: i plan to use the same hd image in several computers, i just want every pc to ask for its name at boot
[11:43] <furgu> to ask via user prompt or ask via dhcp?
[11:43] <BKaj> ok trappist, Im looking
[11:44] <furgu> ^ cbo
[11:44] <cbo> furgu: i know it can be done since install script shows me the fully qualified domain name as default when asking for 'hostname'
[11:45] <furgu> cbo: if you dont change the hostname in install does it use the DHCP given hostname for prompts?
[11:45] <rjb> cbo: it's pretty clear it can be done, the question's whether there's a package or config option that implements it
[11:45] <cbo> furgu: yes
[11:45] <patch> thanks about GAG but its not really what i want
[11:46] <furgu> cbo: so basically you want to chop off the first part of the fully qualified name to use in prompts instead?
[11:46] <patch> my real problem is that when i reinstall xp it will 'fix' my mbr and i wont be ablw to boot into kubuntu
[11:46] <patch> i know that will at /boot grub this is easier to fix
[11:47] <patch> but i cant figure out how to change
[11:47] <cbo> furgu: not exactly, it's ok to set hostname to its fqdn but each pc has to have a different name
[11:48] <rjb> cbo: look at `man dhclient-script'
[11:48] <cbo> rjb: ok
[11:48] <deemo> hey everyone, im having a slight problem getting my kubuntu installation working. when i try to resize my ntfs partition, it says "Opening /dev/hda1 as NTFS failed: Operation not supported." whats going on?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> cbo:  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DHCP_Server_for_automatic_IP_addresses_assignment How to install DHCP Server for automatic IP addresses assignment any help?
[11:49] <rjb> cbo: specifically, search fo HOOKS (upper case)
[11:49] <cbo> rjb, gatekeeper: ok
[11:49] <rjb> like, type /HOOKS in the manpage viewer
[11:50] <rjb> i believe that's what you're looking for
[11:50] <rjb> it only mentions rewriting /etc/resolv.conf when the interface goes up
[11:51] <rjb> but it could probably be customized to set the hostname as well
[11:51] <kub> hi
[11:51] <kub> good night
[11:51] <cbo> hi
[11:52] <kub> I have a wireless keyboard and I cannot use the GRUB boot menu... could I turn on the mouse, for example? any idea?
[11:52] <deemo> amnyone know whats wrong?
[11:52] <gatekeeper> that was what I was thinking
[11:52] <cbo> kub: bios settings?
[11:53] <kub> cbo: what do you mean?
[11:53] <cbo> kub: look in the bios settings for usb keyboard support
[11:53] <cbo> kub: does your keyboard work to enter the bios config?
[11:54] <kub> cbo: ok, but it's an old Pentium III... I'm not sure if that option exists
[11:54] <gatekeeper> deemo: what are you using to resize?
[11:54] <kub> cbo: no, it doesn't
[11:54] <deemo> gatekeeper, qtparted
[11:54] <kub> cbo: that's the problem, i can't use the keyboard until the SO is running
[11:54] <kub> *OS
[11:55] <rjb> ok lemme try another question
[11:55] <rjb> gmail vs. konqueror, what's your experience?
[11:56] <cbo> kub: i had a similar problem, please tell me if you can 'enter bios' with your keyboard, before grub menu appears
[11:56] <kub> cbo: no, I can't
[11:56] <Raven301> How do you set a folder up in your home dir to be shared?
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> I just use shfs
[11:57] <TheHighChild> Raven301: Shared how?
[11:57] <cbo> rjb, gatekeeper, furgu: i think hostname problem is solved with dhclient.conf, not sure yet. thanks for your help
[11:57] <TheHighChild> Raven301: Over the network or to other system users?
[11:57] <cbo> kub: do you have an standard keyboard?
[11:57] <h3sp4wn> !shfs
[11:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about shfs
[11:57] <kub> cbo: yes, an usb one
[11:57] <rjb> kub: seems you're out of luck, if you can't enter bios setup you won't be able to talk to grub
[11:58] <Raven301> TheHighChild: Over home network with linux and window machines
[11:58] <cbo> kub: your usb wired keyboard works and usb wireless does not?
[11:58] <TheHighChild> Raven301: You'll want to use Samba
[11:58] <TheHighChild> !tell Raven301 about samba
[11:58] <Raven301> thanks TheHighChild ... I'll give that a read
[11:58] <kub> rjb: yep, that's because my USB ports are disabled when the PC is booting
[11:59] <cbo> kub: i think any pIII should support usb keyboards
[12:00] <[BU] Brizz> doe anyone know how I can switch to the 686 kernel for my Pentium D?
[12:00] <TheHighChild> Raven301: There are different methods you can use to share a directory, file, or partition. You aren't limited to Samba, although that is very popular. Myself, I just mount a FAT32 partition and use it on both systems
[12:01] <gatekeeper> cbo: good luck :-)
[12:01] <Raven301> TheHighChild: ok thanks ... How do I share a folder with my two linux systems?
[12:01] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: apt-get install linux-686
[12:02] <kub> cbo: ok, I'll look BIOS settings for usb keyboard support
[12:02] <kub> thank you
[12:02] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: the 686 will work for the dual cores but still be x86, right?
[12:02] <TheHighChild> Raven301: Setting up a samba share will allow you to share files and folders.
[12:02] <cbo> gatekeeper: tomorrow i will work more on that, should i find how to solve the problem 'the right way' (tm) i will tell you...
[12:02] <TheHighChild> [BU] Brizz: No idea man.
[12:03] <[BU] Brizz> TheHighChild: heh k, no problem :)
[12:03] <ScottLand2> hey guys im running on LIveCD now and im at the install step 5of6 and im having some problems
[12:03] <TheHighChild> hey ScottLand2
[12:03] <ScottLand2> HAHA
[12:03] <ScottLand2> hey!
[12:03] <ScottLand2> dood i need your help
[12:03] <cbo> kub: maybe you'll have to disable usbmouse support and/or usb thumbdrive support, not sure. I had problem with some combinations, others worked ok
[12:03] <rjb> cbo: good luck
[12:03] <ScottLand2> i had to reformat
[12:04] <TheHighChild> WTF did you do ScottLand2?
[12:04] <ScottLand2> because I had to install XP
[12:04] <Raven301> TheHighChild: ok ... I have been able in the past to right click the folder and set it up to share and the folder then has a plug icon on top of the folder. It's not letting me do this
[12:04] <cbo> rjb: thanks,  tomorrow i will work more on that, should i find how to solve the problem 'the right way' (tm) i will tell you...
[12:04] <gatekeeper> cbo: look forward to hearing from you again. got to go now, like I said good luck I am sure you will sort it :-)
[12:04] <ScottLand2> and it wouldnt let me do both and i tried to use Super Grub disk or whatever and it said it cant help me
[12:04] <ghost> anybody here?
[12:04] <DaSkreech> ghost: Nope
[12:04] <ghost> i see many people
[12:04] <TheHighChild> Raven301: Honestly bud. I was just trying to point you in the right direction. I don't have any actual experience with setting up Samba shares.
[12:04] <cbo> gatekeeper, rjb, furgu: thank you all, may be next time i will appear as 'zx81'
[12:05] <ghost> i started this  app first time
[12:05] <cbo> see you in armagetron 'TIGERS NETWORK CLASSIC PLAY'
[12:05] <rjb> again, any idea why my linksys wifi box might take several *minutes* and dozens of attempts before it responds to a dhcp request?
[12:05] <Raven301> TheHighChild: Big thanks ... the read me you set will help
[12:05] <rjb> but only sometimes?
[12:06] <cbo> rjb: does it depend on the mac address of the requester?
[12:06] <rjb> doesn't seem to
[12:07] <rjb> using the same laptop, it usually responds instantly but every once in a while seems to be seriously stuck for some reason