[12:00] <finalbeta> I tryed my TV card on the live CD, worked right away. Now I installed ubuntu native, and now I get, "can't open /dev/video0: Function not implemented". Little help here.
[12:01] <shwag> How do I view which system services are running ?
[12:01] <Trist> anyone have any idea if a Pentium D (dual core) is supposed to state that is has 2 cores in /proc/cpuinfo, and if it doesn't, how to get it to...?
[12:01] <nickrud> tich, but when you do an upgrade to the next ubuntu release, you will most likely want to have ubuntu-desktop installed
[12:01] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: once the alternate install kernel and initrd is booted from the cd, does it get the .deb's from the CD or a mirror?
[12:01] <Paladine> any ideas gnomefreak?
[12:02] <seamoon> mplayer = kmplayer?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> cd
[12:02] <skavenge> schwag; system -> administration -> services
[12:02] <nickrud> CarlFK, I can state for sure, cd.
[12:02] <gnomefreak> Paladine: didnt see the question/problem
[12:02] <Paladine> is there anyway to get a usb webcam to work in ubu if the manufacturer doesn't provide compatable drivers?
[12:02] <tich> nickrud, ndazza: so is there any way to just remove the application without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[12:02] <Paladine> I have a creative ultra pro for notebooks
[12:02] <jrib> !webcam
[12:02] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:03] <CarlFK> nickrud: I figured as much - which supports something is different between cd install and pxe
[12:03] <nickrud> tich, not easily, no. Just be sure to install ubuntu-desktop before you upgrade to edgy. Do anything you like until then :)
[12:03] <roostishaw> ndazza, any ideas?
[12:03] <seamoon> i searched in package manager for mplayer and found kmplayer which is for KDE, will it work for gnome?
[12:04] <tich> nickrud, okay thanks.
[12:04] <charlesg3> how can I change which framebuffer ubuntu uses on boot?
[12:04] <nickrud> CarlFK, I've never done a pxe install, and saw your wget issue earlier. That was not the question I horned in on :)
[12:04] <NickGarvey> seamoon: yes, kde apps work in gnome
[12:04] <Paladine> jrib, my cam is not listed in the supported hardware
[12:04] <Paladine> in fact non of the 3 webcams I have are listed
[12:04] <ndazza> roostishaw: ahh, your mail system needs to be set up correctly before it can send messages. i'm trying to  figure out how to do that now...
[12:04] <Tommy2k4> yay kubuntu has crashed for the 7th time today :'(
[12:04] <roostishaw> ndazza, ok...
[12:04] <Tommy2k4> next time ima go back to windows :(
[12:05] <jrib> Paladine: well that's just a wiki with past user's experiences.  That can mean that they don't work that no one has had a chance to add it
[12:05] <ndazza> all: how to reconfigure a package? namely postfix
[12:05] <CarlFK> nickrud: that was for gnomefreak's info
[12:05] <Paladine> jrib, yeah, I was wondering if there are any known tricks to get usb cams working that I could try
[12:05] <jrib> Paladine: the first link ubotu gave I think had some instructions
[12:05] <nickrud> CarlFK, have you looked over the pxe install instructions on the wiki yet?
[12:06] <nickrud> ndazza, sudo dpkg-reconfigure <packagename>
[12:06] <ndazza> nickrud: thanks
[12:06] <CarlFK> nickrud: the ones written by CarlKarsten ? :)
[12:06] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: give me the link/repo that pxe installer is using
[12:06] <Paladine> jrib checking it now
[12:06] <ndazza> roostishaw: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[12:06] <nickrud> CarlFK, you? rflmao
[12:06] <CarlFK> yup.
[12:07] <roostishaw> ndazza, ok, what do i choose for the first question?
[12:07] <nickrud> CarlFK, then you are dark territory for me, but I already knew that :)
[12:07] <Dracura> Okay, going to reinstall dapper. Wish me luck guys and gals
[12:07] <BCK14> crocd:
[12:07] <Dracura> Watch. My HD will probably burst into flames
[12:07] <BCK14> i think ive fixed it
[12:07] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/LocalNet
[12:07] <NickGarvey> Dracura: good luck!
[12:07] <nickrud> Dracura, luck. Use the alternate, hit enter wherever you can
[12:07] <ndazza> roostishaw: you should probably try to configure postfix to send mail through your ISP
[12:08] <ndazza> ndazza: so probably satellite system
[12:08] <Dracura> Ah yes, forgot about the formatting. Gonna take a while, so I'll hang around a little longer
[12:08] <nickrud> gnomefreak, actually someone found some stuff lingering on mirrors; it's a really black hole.
[12:08] <skavenge> boy i guess i shoulder consider myself lucky dapper got everything right but my wireless nic first try, some of these problems are pretty hectic it looks like heh
[12:09] <charlesg3> I wasn't able to get my machine to netboot... I'm going to keep trying tonight
[12:09] <gnomefreak> it garbage from what ive seen seeing as you can mount/install the iso without all that
[12:09] <skavenge> i figured it'd be worse on a laptop guess not
[12:09] <gnomefreak> s/seen/been
[12:09] <LiteHedded> easy sources please
[12:09] <seamoon> Ok, I tried mplayer and mpegs seem to work but not AVI's. "Player xine not running" is the message I receive.
[12:09] <nickrud> and pxe is so often used, but not by me
[12:09] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: http://www.etherboot.org/
[12:09] <nickrud> !easysource
[12:09] <seamoon> Also, I get no sound.
[12:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:09] <farous> for local language do i need the language support or language pack package
[12:09] <nickrud> LiteHedded, ^^
[12:09] <roostishaw> ndazza, what about the smtp relay host?
[12:09] <LiteHedded> ty
[12:10] <Jerr> if I add a user to a group, do I need to do anything for that user's priveleges to become active?
[12:10] <ndazza> roostishaw: that would be your isp's mail server
[12:10] <Sivik> will gemu allow for the vm to run with 3d acc?
[12:10] <nickrud> Jerr, make sure the user added to the group logs out and back in
[12:10] <Jerr> ok
[12:10] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: http://wiki.etherboot.org/pmwiki.php/Main/CarlKarsten :)
[12:10] <Paladine> jrib I get a 404 for some of the blognux.free.fr resources (and once update has finished apt-get can't find easycam2
[12:10] <roostishaw> ndazza, :D  and how do i get that? (btw, im trying to send it to a gmail account... if thast matters)
[12:10] <Jerr> out of all sessions or just the one that the user will be acting with?
[12:10] <CarlFK> "I use Etherboot to boot the Ubuntu installer.  Works like a charm."  guess I should change that ....
[12:11] <Sivik> !gemu
[12:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about gemu
[12:11] <nickrud> Jerr, all sessions, for consistency
[12:11] <seamoon> Anyone knows why avi's wont work in mplayer for me? It says "player xine not running".
[12:11] <Jerr> ok
[12:11] <nickrud> seamoon, mplayer? xine? what?
[12:11] <Sivik> nickrud, will gemu allow me to use 3d acc in the guest os?
[12:12] <nickrud> Sivik, not a clue, sorry
[12:12] <Sivik> nickrud, darn
[12:12] <nickrud> Sivik, but I'd almost be certain that no is the answer
[12:12] <Sivik> lol
[12:12] <Sivik> then how do ppl play games in the vm?
[12:12] <Sivik> use Xen?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: truthfully i would rethink using that if its not working my guess is the software wasnt updated for dapper
[12:12] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: so any idea which of the 6? files  has the bad file name in it?
[12:13] <ndazza> roostishaw: depends on your isp, for example mine is mail.iinet.net.au for my isp iinet
[12:13] <Tommy2k4> whats the console command to find out my monitors vert/horiz refresh rates
[12:13] <nickrud> But X is changing so fast lately, my past experience could easily be archaic
[12:13] <jrib> Paladine: it doesn't seem to 404 here, can you check for typos?
[12:13] <ndazza> roostishaw: you can get the details from your isp's web page, it's the same as you would set up for sending email from thunderbird etc
[12:13] <roostishaw> ndazza, ok, i got it... now For what network blocks should this machine relay mail?  The default is   
[12:13] <roostishaw>   just the local host, which is needed by some mail user agents.
[12:13] <Bassetts> does anyone know if theres anyway to find GET from whm or cpanel?
[12:13] <mauper> What is the matter with compiz on amd64 ?
[12:14] <nickrud> Sivik, check the Xen web site, that's where you'll find out
[12:14] <Sivik> ok
[12:14] <shwag> Anyone know of software for automatically organizing my mp3 collection ?
[12:14] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: close enough.  something is broke.  I am trying to figure out what so I can file a bug report.
[12:14] <Paladine> Errhttp://blognux.free.fr unstable/main Packages
[12:14] <Paladine>   404 Not Found
[12:14] <Blissex> shwag: telepathic software is being developed, bit not quite ready for release yet...
[12:14] <CarlFK> gnomefreak: or shoudl all bugs be filed agiand "the whole dapper cd ?
[12:14] <jrib> shwag: amarok is nice
[12:15] <jrib> Paladine: can you paste your sources.list line?
[12:15] <mauper> !compiz
[12:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[12:15] <Paladine> deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[12:15] <Paladine>  <M- I added that line to source-list
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[12:15] <mauper> thanks ;)
[12:15] <nickrud> vitry, eh, barcelona. Spent one night there.
[12:16] <vitry> jejeje
[12:16] <Paladine> jrib - deb http://blognux.free.fr/debian unstable main
[12:16] <vitry> and do you like it?
[12:16] <Blissex> shwag: however you can reveal what you mean by organize and perhaps it will be a bit better.
[12:16] <nickrud> I still remember everything, it was 23 years ago.
[12:17] <nickrud> vitry, so yes :)
[12:17] <shwag> Blissex: I leave that reasoning up to the programmer.
[12:17] <vitry> 2 endwekkends ago was the Sonar (Advanced Music and Technology)
[12:17] <acke> my comp is soo screwed when i get to loginscreen i have to do ctrl+akt+backspace then press alt+f1 many times... and then i can do alt+F7 to get to desktop or to logg in.. my fglrx isnt working properly is it. can someone explain what i am doing in this process and what i might maybe do to avoid it. please???
[12:17] <vitry> we homes are your homes, jajaja
[12:17] <jrib> Paladine: yeah mine seems to be having problems when I add it to the sources.list, maybe you can look into going to the site and downloading the deb manually
[12:17] <vitry> bye
[12:17] <Blissex> shwag: thats a bit vague then... However look as always at searching FreshMeat.net
[12:18] <nickrud> vitry, yes, that was the absolute truth. Bye
[12:18] <yallaman> in synaptics..if i chose "uninstall" is the package still on my comp? since there is a "completely remove" option..
[12:18] <Paladine> aye I will try that
[12:18] <seamoon> What shall I do to be able to play mp3's in rythmbox?
[12:18] <BCK14> !mp3
[12:18] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <Blissex> shwag: there are programs to mass rename MP3 files, programs to create indices, programs to play according to keywords, whatever
[12:18] <BCK14> seamoon: top link
[12:18] <iamelite> Well. you guys helped me get my system up and running. Now there is one thing left to ask...
[12:18] <Sivik> iamelite, what is that
[12:19] <shwag> Blissex, * is very vague, but it is also useful.
[12:19] <iamelite> What should i do with it :?
[12:19] <Paladine> jrib, ahhh it is cos it is i386 and I am running ubuntu amd64
[12:19] <Paladine> I wish i could find a way to force ubu to list i386 repositories
[12:20] <jrib> Paladine: I don't think it would work right
[12:20] <iamelite> I mean i got linux working, now i need something fun to learn about.
[12:20] <Sivik> iamelite, what do you want to learn?
[12:20] <Paladine> I will try --force-architecture
[12:20] <Ackeubu_> my comp is soo screwed when i get to loginscreen i have to do ctrl+akt+backspace then press alt+f1 many times... and then i can do alt+F7 to get to desktop or to logg in.. my fglrx isnt working properly is it. can someone explain what i am doing in this process and what i might maybe do to avoid it. please???
[12:20] <Paladine> my favourite args
[12:20] <stromham> hey i need the jre but i cannot seem to figure out how to install it i followed the insrtuctions at java.com but no avil
[12:20] <iamelite> Sivik, dunno
[12:20] <Sivik> Ackeubu_, what kind of card?
[12:20] <jrib> Ackeubu_: yes, anything with "force" always yeilds interesting results :)
[12:20] <skavenge> !java
[12:20] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:20] <Sivik> iameliste, then i can't help you
[12:20] <vanberge> stromham: you can find it on synaptic - dont go to java.com
[12:21] <Sivik> iamelite, if you don't know what you want to learn, then i can't help you
[12:21] <stromham> k i will try it.........
[12:21] <Ackeubu_> jrib thanks. when it gets to the logginscreen it turns black and i can only see the cursor.. so i have to mess around to get to the desktop.. :P
[12:21] <vanberge> iamelite: a good place to start is ubuntuguide.org
[12:21] <Ackeubu_> silvik i have the ati mobility radeon X1400
[12:21] <vanberge> iamelite: you have never used linux before?
[12:21] <iamelite> Sivik, Whats something useful linux communitys could use more of
[12:21] <nickrud> !ubuntuguide
[12:21] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[12:22] <Sivik> !tell Ackeubu_ about ati
[12:22] <jrib> Ackeubu_: oops that remark was meant for Paladine
[12:22] <Ackeubu_> jrib ooh np
[12:22] <nickrud> vanberge, iamelite ubuntuguide had it's day, but not today] 
[12:22] <vanberge> nickrud: i didnt find it outdated.
[12:22] <Ackeubu_> silvik been to all the wikipages and done the setups dont get it to work anyways..
[12:22] <iamelite> Hmm
[12:22] <Paladine> jrib - baaah gcc-3.4 dependency
[12:22] <nickrud> vanberge, so now I gotta look again, it's been a couple of months
[12:23] <Paladine> which very kindly tells me, no I am not going to install
[12:23] <iamelite> MAybe ill learn C
[12:23] <vanberge> nickrud: lol.. ok, let me know what you think
[12:23] <vanberge> iamelite: do you have any programming exp?
[12:23] <jonah1980> i guys i need some real advice if anyone can help. i've read around google and i'm getting a bit scared! i have a new 4800+ dual core PC coming to me on wednesday!! it's my dream machine and i had high hopes of running ubuntu 64bit on it. i think ubuntu rocks and use 32, everything works so smooth and well but now reading around after downloading 64bit dvd edition for new computer ppl saying that 64bit not worth it and to stick with 32, wha
[12:23] <jonah1980> t should i do? what's everyone's advice?
 bye, problem resolve, I'm catalonian, aix que jo parlo catal. Bona nit. Ade
[12:23] <skavenge> theres quite a bit on ubuntuguide that doesn't work in dapper
[12:23] <nickrud> vitry, be well, see you about
[12:23] <NickGarvey> jonah1980: well, what do you want to use your computer for?
[12:23] <iamelite> vanberge, years of computer installation, tweaking, and gaming. everything i know is, "Hey thats not good enough, how do i make it better"
[12:24] <nickrud> ok, java is ok
[12:24] <vitry> no, problem not resolve
[12:24] <vanberge> iamelite: i would recommend python.
[12:24] <jonah1980> NickGarvey, well i was hoping to learn blender and use new machine for graphics and 3d design as well as normal tasks
[12:24] <vanberge> iamelite: find a good online python tutorial.
[12:24] <farous> hm i guess will never find a good spell checker to my lang. it is complicated anywy :(
[12:24] <iamelite> vanberge, python it is.
[12:24] <vitry> I come here in 5 minutes
[12:24] <Paladine> ooo lets see if that worked
[12:24] <jonah1980> but i also wanna see flash websites and do all the normal stuff without a load of problems - which ppl seem to be having - anyone got any experience with 64, is it good enough?
[12:25] <vanberge> iamelite: i hear that google engineers use alot of python
[12:25] <charlesg3> iamelite, I recommend ruby over python, but i'm not trying to start any flame wars here
[12:25] <NickGarvey> jonah1980: I have a 64 bit computer
[12:25] <iamelite> LOL
[12:25] <BCK14> vanberge: did you find that desktop changer ?
[12:25] <NickGarvey> jonah1980: you can play flash but you need to do work arounds
[12:25] <roostishaw> what do i need to install to get  /bin/mail???
[12:25] <bruenig> jonah1980, I say go 32 bit, I have 64 bit processor and tried the 64 bit ubuntu but there were a few too many headaches, I switched to 32 bit and they all went away and I didn't see much of a performance loss if any
[12:25] <Paladine> jrib, ha typical, I managed to get easycam2 installed and working but the first thing it says is no webcam or incompatable webcam installed hehe
[12:25] <vanberge> BCK14: i found a program on synaptic, but it doesnt work :-(
[12:25] <nickrud> and they focus skype on an apt source, good. Now, what about pppoe, which is why I abandoned them
[12:25] <iamelite> ruby... python
[12:25] <Paladine> sods law
[12:25] <NickGarvey> jonah1980: I would highly suggest 32 though
[12:25] <Zarephath> Hey everyone..need some help...a guest is staying in our home and I want to keep an eye on what is going on. It is an old compaq laptop running WinME...for the life of me I can't find any firewall software on the computer(I snooped when no one was around)...it is connecting to a Linksys WRTG G-Band router...how do I go about finding out what ip is assigned to that wireless connection?
[12:25] <BCK14> vanberge: maybe do it via cron? if you can find the command ?
[12:26] <Paladine> in windows?
[12:26] <varsendaggar> is there anyway i could get the sources.list for dapper?
[12:26] <iamelite> WINDOWS
[12:26] <iamelite> !!
[12:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about !
[12:26] <iamelite> Where do you think you ARE?
[12:26] <Paladine> go to a prompt and tpe ipconfig /all
[12:26] <hyphenated> ubotu: source-o-matic?
[12:26] <NickGarvey> !windows
[12:26] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:26] <nickrud> still that rp-pppoe thing outside sources. That is crap
[12:26] <iamelite> LOL
[12:26] <vanberge> nickrud: ubuntuguide used to not even have a dapper section, so i would typically agree.  :-)  but i went to it a few days ago, and it looked pretty current
[12:26] <jonah1980> a lot of ppl seem to be saying 32bit also, this computer is going to last me a while and will the 64 dapper get better and be updated - at somepoint will i be missing out with 32
[12:26] <ZeZu> anyone know how i can force vsync w/ nvidia-glx
[12:26] <ZeZu> ?
[12:26] <nickrud> vanberge, it's better, yes
[12:27] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: jump in #windows and I'll help you
[12:27] <nickrud> vanberge, pick and choose from there if you want to advise
[12:27] <bruenig> jonah1980, if 64 bit becomes even with it, which it probably will at a point, you can always install the 64 bit down the line somewhere
[12:27] <Zarephath> NickGarvey: The reason I asked here is I want to use Ubuntu to do this ;-)
[12:27] <jonah1980> bruenig - will i need to do a clean install or would it be easy enough to update it?
[12:28] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: oh, "fconfig" in a terminal
[12:28] <bruenig> jonah1980, probably clean
[12:28] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: ifconfig*
[12:28] <d2812> hey. im runing dapper and i'm having some problems with sound. It was working fine at first but then I restarted while I still had moc (an mp3 player) running. now I have no sound. restarting the machine has had no effect. Any suggestions?
[12:28] <nickrud> jonah1980, the edgy release is supposed to support 386 natively, but until then, 64bit will suck for most people
[12:28] <Paladine> Zedd, add the following lines to the monitor device in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:28] <Paladine> ZeZu, even
[12:28] <Paladine>     HorizSync       30.0 - 95.0
[12:28] <Paladine>     VertRefresh     50.0 - 155.0
[12:28] <iamelite> Also see "apt-get Moo" For Microsoft Mascot
[12:28] <Zarephath> Huh? I would use Ubuntu to try and find the other computer on the network using ifconfig? That is just for local nics and devices no?
[12:29] <Paladine> change the refresh rates to match your monitor
[12:29] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: you can file a bug but it would be against the installer and if the installer is not included in ubuntu ubuntu can not fix it
[12:29] <Paladine> they are mine
[12:29] <ZeZu> Paladine, that does not force vsync
[12:29] <Paladine> oh vsync, sorry I parsed it as hsync
[12:29] <ZeZu> that sets refresh rates the monitor can handle
[12:29] <yallaman> how can i remove services that i am not using..but still starts each time i boot?
[12:29] <jonah1980> it seems such a shame to have this new power machine and not get the full potential out of it, how is it that linux is struggling with 64bit, hasn't it been available for a few years in dozey XP?
[12:30] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: oh I see, apt-get install nmap
[12:30] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: feel free to file it against UNKNOWN OR DO NOT KNOW
[12:30] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:30] <Paladine> as far as I can see linux isn't struggling with 64bit
[12:30] <salah> any idea how to make firefox access sites which have status "This address is restricted"?
[12:30] <nickrud> yallaman, a good tool for that is sysv-rc-conf
[12:30] <Paladine> just not all 32bit apps have been ported
[12:30] <Pharaoh_Atem> now that i fixed up everything on my Breezy install... is there a way to do one command install of a LAMP stack?
[12:30] <iamelite> Someone tell me how to Emote.
[12:30] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: then.. assuming the ips start with 192.168.0.*
[12:30] <iamelite> in IRC
[12:30] <finalbeta> does someone have a link on how to work with alsamixer? kindoff stuck in the menu
[12:30] <NickGarvey> iamelite: /me
[12:30] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
[12:30] <iamelite> ty nickgarvey
[12:31] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: this assumes windows is not blocking ping requests
[12:31] <iamelite> im gonna go Streak in ##windows
[12:31] <nickrud> iamelite, mimic will shatner
[12:31] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: if it is, you would need to connect to your router
[12:31] <Paladine> final - man alsamixer is what I used earlier today
[12:31] <kevin> okay, installing Dapper Desktop. The problem is, for some reason, it is getting hung at Compaq touchscreen protocol output. Any ideas how to by pass this?
[12:31] <vanberge> BCK14: i can't believe there's not an app for that!  i think people would love to have their desktop wallpaper rotated ever 45 minutes on an automated basis.  :-)
[12:31] <Zarephath> NickGarvey: Kewl that was what I was looking for..your assumption is correct and I can connect to the router...
[12:31] <bur[n] er> kevin: ctrl+c?
[12:31] <Zarephath> Thanks
[12:31] <iamelite> THERES...
[12:31] <nickrud> vanberge, there are scripts that do that ....
[12:32] <iamelite> SOMETHING ON THE WING
[12:32] <kevin> bur[n] er, nope
[12:32] <iamelite> SOME...
[12:32] <BCK14> vanberge: it could probably be written quite easily
[12:32] <vanberge> iamelite: write a wallpaper switching program!  :-)
[12:32] <BCK14> tho i wouldnt have it
[12:32] <iamelite> THING
[12:32] <vanberge> nickrud: i dont really want to do a crontab of bsetbg.  is that what you mean?
[12:32] <Paladine> find a way to make xinerama display different background images for each display ;)
[12:32] <vanberge> !xinerama
[12:32] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo
[12:32] <furriner> hello, I have dapper drake, how do I get gtk+ 2.2 ?
[12:32] <nickrud> vanberge, gconf-tool, and a directory of images. What sucks is not being able to do that on a desktop basis easily.
[12:32] <Paladine> cos my 6 month old son doesn't look good stretched to 3200x1600
[12:33] <nickrud> vanberge, but the concept is identical
[12:33] <vanberge> isnt that how you use ubotu? with a !?
[12:33] <vanberge> !python
[12:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about python
[12:33] <nickrud> !info python
[12:33] <ubotu> python: An interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In repository main, is important. Version 2.4.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 125 kB, installed size 532 kB
[12:33] <vanberge> oh nm, it worked.  my term window is goofy.
[12:33] <nickrud> vanberge, !info for package info
[12:34] <varsendaggar> kevin hit excape to get into the grub menue and try using a different kernal
[12:34] <vanberge> !gconf-tool
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about gconf-tool
[12:34] <furriner> hello, I have dapper drake, how do I get gtk+ 2.2 ?
[12:34] <kevin> varsendaggar, the only one is 2.6.25-23
[12:34] <Paladine> I posted this in ubu amd64 forum 7 hours ago andso far no ideas have been forthcoming, anyone mind taking a look at the problem? ( http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030 )
[12:34] <iamelite> Anyone wanna hear some Windows Installation FAQs?
[12:35] <nickrud> iamelite, not a freaking chance
[12:35] <iamelite> oh but thier funny
[12:35] <NickGarvey> Zarephath: :)
[12:35] <nickrud> !off-topic
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about off-topic
[12:35] <Paladine> ubu should have stolen the screen from windows XP installation that says "Windows just got better..." and dumped it into their install ;)
[12:35] <nickrud> !offtopic
[12:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[12:36] <iamelite> nickrud, i know that. I was just inviting anyone to go there with me
[12:36] <nickrud> iamelite, cool.
[12:36] <furriner> hello, I have dapper drake, how do I get gtk+ 2.2 ?
[12:36] <nickrud> furriner, it's at 2.8 now
[12:36] <furriner> ok
[12:36] <Lamego> furriner, you mean the development libs ?
[12:37] <furriner> I mean the gtk+ within ubuntu
[12:37] <tronica> iamelite, how do you like cedega
[12:37] <Paladine> so who wants to fix this for me: ./cxinstallwizard:error: error initializing Tk: 'this isn't a Tk applicationunknown color name "Black"'
[12:37] <furriner> it's at 2.8?
[12:37] <Lamego> ubuntu comes with gtk2 installed
[12:37] <mic__> c.newnet.net
[12:37] <furriner> where are some good repositories?
[12:37] <nickrud> Paladine, it'd try looking thru synaptic, and installing the latest tk so your installer can find it.
[12:37] <Lamego> furriner, the default from ubuntu are fine, you just need to enable the ones that come commented
[12:37] <bruenig> !repositories
[12:37] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:38] <Paladine> !tk
[12:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about tk
[12:38] <nickrud> !info tk8.4
[12:38] <ubotu> tk8.4: Tk toolkit for Tcl and X11, v8.4 - run-time files. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.4.12-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 933 kB, installed size 2576 kB
[12:38] <vanberge> BCK14: i found wallpaper-tray on synaptic.  but the buttons dont click!  what the heck!  that is exactly what i need!!  :-(
[12:38] <BCK14> haha
[12:38] <Knome> I have the same problem with wallpaper-tray
[12:38] <BCK14> vanberge: if i get round to it ill try write a bash script to do it
[12:39] <varsendaggar> hey i had breezy and i just went through the sources.list and changed everything to dapper   where it said breezy    is that ok.
[12:39] <Lamego> !upgrade
[12:39] <furriner> !easysource
[12:39] <nickrud> varsendaggar, yes
[12:39] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[12:39] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:39] <Paladine> nick, I already have the latest version of tk installed
[12:39] <Paladine> am gonna remove it and try reinstalling it
[12:39] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: yes not sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distupgrade
[12:40] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:40] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade
[12:40] <nickrud> Paladine, you may have an older app there, that doesn't look where ubuntu puts the libs
 I have the same problem
[12:40] <varsendaggar> apt-get update worked but i'm having problems getting my nvidi card working i think
[12:40] <nickrud> tk is dead, really
[12:40] <Paladine> nick, I just reinstalled tk 8.4 and still get the same error
[12:40] <nickrud> vitry, which one?
[12:40] <varsendaggar> i went form a breezy server to dapper desktop
[12:40] <vitry> I'm compiling mplayer with jack suport. I've installed all libreries, and with ./configure && make,  compile OK. But I want make a package with a dpkg-buildpackage, then I run dh-make and configure debian/config with --enable-jack to enable jack suport, but don't compile. Why??
[12:40] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: did you run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:40] <Paladine> I am trying to get the crossover demo working
[12:41] <Paladine> been trying for a couple of weeks now
[12:41] <varsendaggar> gnomefreak, yeah
[12:41] <varsendaggar> i think so
[12:41] <vitry> dh-make is not necesary with mplayer
[12:41] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: did you reboot into new kernel?
[12:41] <nickrud> vitry, oh, packaging work. I demoted myself from debian to ubuntu since I don't wanna do packaging work ;)
[12:41] <Exussum> Hey - i cant go on the net when i use the new Kernal
[12:41] <varsendaggar> gnomefreak, ha ha that is the tricky part, the newest kernal dopesn't work so i had to use the one one step down
[12:42] <varsendaggar> i got a window freeze
[12:42] <gnomefreak> CarlFK: uname -r   what does that ouput?
[12:42] <seth_slackware> hello
[12:42] <furriner> gt
[12:42] <gnomefreak> not CarlFK
[12:42] <vitry> jaja, so why never I have a system in a perfect state
[12:42] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: what does uname -r output
[12:42] <vitry> I don't want compile with make install
[12:42] <gnomefreak> vitry: than use checkinstall
[12:43] <seth_slackware> Having an issue with my video, my xorg is set up to 1024, but the gnome changer will not let me go over 800 X 600
[12:43] <varsendaggar> just a sec
[12:43] <Paladine> nick how about my surround51 problem, any ideas on that one?
[12:43] <nickrud> vitry, I understand your point.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> !fixres > seth_slackware
[12:43] <vitry> checkinstall? what want you say?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> seth_slackware: read the pm ubotu sent you
[12:44] <nickrud> Paladine, if that was for me, I leave all sound to my betters, every time I try I work poeple into corners
[12:44] <MTecknology> what would I put in this command '-net user[,vlan=n] [,hostname=host] '     -     I know my laptops settings, but not what to do for this as an option for qemu
[12:44] <LjL> !info checkinstall
[12:44] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[12:44] <varsendaggar> hey how muck is 256 mb in kb?
[12:44] <LjL> !checkinstall
[12:44] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[12:44] <crocd> 262144
[12:44] <nickrud> varsendaggar, 256 * 1024 * 1024
[12:44] <Lamego> varsendaggar, this is not a generic help channel, but 1Kb = 1024 bytes
[12:44] <crocd> 262144 kb
[12:44] <Paladine> nickrud, well i am already in a corner hehe, so if you wanna have a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030 and have any ideas, I won't blame you if it doesn't work :)
[12:45] <NickGarvey> heh I know taht off the top of my head
[12:45] <vitry> :O ok I'like IRC
[12:45] <vitry> thanks people
[12:45] <NickGarvey> because thats how much the quota is for all of my users
[12:45] <LjL> that's ki*bi*bytes. if you want ki*lo*bytes, that's 256000 :-)
[12:45] <furriner> which version of GTK+ is included with dapper drake?
[12:45] <Ackeubu_> when i get to loginscreen the screen is black and i only see the cursor. i have to do ctrl+akt+backspace then press alt+f1 many times... and then i can do alt+F7 to get to desktop or to logg in.. my fglrx for ATI mobility radeon seems to be working properly after that. can someone explain what i am doing in this process and what i might maybe do to avoid it??
[12:45] <Lamego> furriner, whats the purpose of that question ?
[12:46] <gnomefreak> furriner: 2
[12:46] <furriner> cos I was a recent version
[12:46] <furriner> ] 2.2, 2.6, 2.8 ...... ?
[12:46] <Lamego> furriner, dapper ships a recent version
[12:46] <snoops> Lamego.. shouldn't it really be 1KB = 1000Bytes.. but 1KiB = 1024Bytes?
[12:46] <jarrod06> how well does 6.06 work on a mactel
[12:46] <gnomefreak> off hand i dont remember
[12:46] <LjL> snoops: right
[12:46] <zamaliphe> what ver of ubuntu i should download
[12:46] <nickrud> Paladine, yup, that's not even a corner I'm familiar with :)
[12:46] <Lamego> snoops, for an IT person, KB = KiB
[12:47] <jarrod06> anyone?
[12:47] <ardchoille> zamaliphe: Ubuntu 6.06 is the latest stable release
[12:47] <vitry> sorry by chekinstall not is in my repository
[12:47] <nickrud> snoops, reverse
[12:47] <gnomefreak> jarrod06: i remember reading something that noone was sure on that
[12:47] <LjL> Lamego: except in measuring bandwidth, mass storage... :-)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> vitry: enable universe repo
[12:47] <vitry> yes
[12:47] <vitry> enable it
[12:47] <Paladine> nick, thanks anyway hehe.  The annoying thing is the device is listed on the system
[12:47] <Lamego> :P
[12:47] <zamaliphe> "Server install CD" or "Alternate install CD" or "Desktop CD" ?
[12:47] <Lamego> zamaliphe, depends on your need
[12:48] <ardchoille> zamaliphe: depends on what you need
[12:48] <snoops> Nah nickrud.. K = 1000, Ki = 1024 :) base 10 to base 2 heh
[12:48] <nickrud> Paladine, watch for crimsun in this space, he's used to me flagging his name :)
[12:48] <LjL> nickrud: reverse? no...
[12:48] <gnomefreak> zamaliphe: i would gowith alternative atm
[12:48] <gnomefreak> go with*
[12:48] <furriner> I had a Thai curry for lunch, it was very tasty, that is probably off topic
[12:48] <Paladine> will do, thanks again
[12:48] <nickrud> LjL, snoops ok, I'll go with the better info thanks
[12:48] <LjL> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
[12:48] <varsendaggar> gnomefreak, uname -r   outputs 2.6.12-10-386
[12:48] <nickrud> But I swear, but been there, done that
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ardchoille: Lamego alot of complaints on the desktop installer atm
[12:48] <iamelite> tronica, Hi... Diddnt work for me. Wouldnt read the directory
[12:48] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: thats breezy
[12:49] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: oh? I didn't know that. Thank yuo for the update :)
[12:49] <varsendaggar> so dapper doesn't work then?
[12:49] <vitry> sorry I'm a inutil chekinstall not is, is checkinstall
[12:49] <Lamego> gnomefreak, i have installed about 4 systems with the desktop CD, I don't have any complaints :)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> Lamego: either did i
[12:49] <ardchoille> I installed the desktop cd and I haven't had a single problem yet :)
[12:49] <skavenge> desktop was golden on my laptop
[12:49] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: dapper was working fine for me but im not everyone
[12:49] <gnomefreak> varsendaggar: you will have to try it to know if it will work
[12:49] <Lamego> the only complains I have seen so far was about low memory systems
[12:50] <ubuntu> somebody from Brazil?
[12:50] <d2812> hey. im runing xubuntu dapper and i'm having some problems with sound. It was working fine at first but then I restarted while I still had moc (an mp3 player) running. now I have no sound. restarting the machine has had no effect. i've checked the channels, all are maxed out and none are muted. Any suggestions?
[12:50] <LjL> !br
[12:50] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[12:50] <zamaliphe> i need kde desktop with grub-gfx boot loader and xorg 7 and xgl ext ?
[12:50] <snoops> I quite liked the desktop install cd.. it needs some improvement, but at least it's a step forward in my opinion
[12:50] <nickrud> skavenge, ardchoille were those installs preserving windows?
[12:50] <namikata> hello
[12:50] <skavenge> nickrud ; nope clean install here, no windows
[12:50] <gnomefreak> i have 6 cds 3 desktop and 3 alternaitve and they all work fine
[12:50] <Lamego> zamaliphe, you should start with kubuntu
[12:50] <nickrud> skavenge, a data point, thanks
[12:51] <namikata> anyone here can help me with an usb headset?
[12:51] <ardchoille> nickrud: no, I refuse to use garbage ;)
[12:51] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to be able to type in unicode characters by holding a key while typing the appropriate hex then releasing the key
[12:51] <zamaliphe> i have kde 3.5.2 local compill at my home Dir
[12:51] <nickrud> ardchoille, another :) seems to match what else I've seen
[12:51] <skavenge> the dual boots seem to be the problematic ones?
[12:51] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-br
[12:51] <nickrud> yes
[12:51] <skavenge> i see
[12:52] <zamaliphe> Lamego:  kubuntu why  ubuntu doesn't have kde at all  ?
[12:52] <andyp> hey s2812 what chipset is your sound system?
[12:52] <nickrud> so, always mention the alternate, save your time
[12:52] <namikata> hello, anyone knows how to use an usb headset in ubuntu 6.06?
[12:52] <namikata> thanks!!!
[12:52] <Lamego> zamaliphe, you can install kde on ubuntu, but if you just want kde, kubuntu makes more sense
[12:52] <hyphenated> namikata: first, you have to find out what happens when you plug it in.
[12:53] <d2812> andyp : ac'97 - think thats what your after.
[12:53] <namikata> well, the light works, and if i press the buttons
[12:53] <namikata> the volume goes up and down
[12:53] <namikata> but theres no sound
[12:53] <namikata> only through the speakers
[12:53] <Lamego> namikata, the question is, what happens on the pc side, not on the speakers
[12:53] <namikata> oh
[12:53] <zamaliphe> im going with the Server install CD ?
[12:53] <namikata> it tells something about new hardware
[12:54] <DShepherd2> zamaliphe: ok?
[12:54] <namikata> and to go to System-Preferences-Sound
[12:54] <IrIT> Just installed mono on Ubuntu 6.06. Although when i try to run a program, i get an error. Can't load the *.dll
[12:54] <namikata> to change the card i want to use
[12:54] <skavenge> zamaliphe ; server install is not going to give you a GUI by default ... just so you know.
[12:54] <Lamego> zamaliphe, well, if you dont have kubuntu, use the alternate, install the minimal, and then install kubuntu-desktop
[12:54] <namikata> but it doenst save changes
[12:54] <IrIT> It's looking for them in /usr/lib/mono/2.0 Although I only have 1.0
[12:55] <namikata> my main card is an intel8x0
[12:55] <andyp> d2812: i think AC 97 driver has issues with restart, had an old thinkpad with restart issues
[12:55] <namikata> ths headset is a Logitec 350
[12:55] <namikata> but qhen i open sound properties its always intel
[12:55] <ToHellWithGA> !unicode
[12:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about unicode
[12:56] <ToHellWithGA> !doh
[12:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about doh
[12:56] <andyp> d2812: is it on a laptop? was it a suspend rather than a power down?
[12:56] <skavenge> !info unicode
[12:56] <ubotu> unicode: display unicode character properties. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 80 kB
[12:56] <Lamego> ToHellWithGA, I don't believe there is such feature right now
[12:57] <McScruff> if i ssh into a pc and run a command, so i need to stay logged inwhile that command runs untill its completed or can i close ssh and the command still run?
[12:57] <ToHellWithGA> skavenge: what does that do?  is it something to ease typing unicode characters?
[12:57] <d2812> andyp : it's a desktop. just shutdown, turned it back and lo, no sound
[12:57] <hyphenated> McScruff: generally you stay logged in
[12:57] <Zarephath> NickGarvey: Worked like a charm! However attempts to scan like nmap -sS 192.168.1.* results in a message that it can't do it...I assumed root privileges was regarding Ubuntu and not the computer I am trying to scan?
[12:57] <vasser> hello
[12:57] <McScruff> crap , ty hyphenated
[12:57] <skavenge> ToHellWithGA ; no clue was just seeing if there was any info on the bot for you
[12:57] <hyphenated> McScruff: or use 'screen' on the remote machine
[12:57] <Ro1> i'm so happy....i finally got my broadcom 4318 working..
[12:57] <McScruff> lol
[12:57] <nickrud> McScruff, in general, yes. You can also run the app screen on the remote machine, it allows you to detach & attach
[12:57] <namikata> is there a way to change the sound card i want to use?
[12:58] <andyp> d2812: ooo, ok can you use the command line?
[12:58] <d2812> andyp: yeah.
[12:58] <McScruff> Ro1, i did too and went back to ndiswrapper
[12:58] <namikata> clear
[12:58] <vasser> i have a problem with my xgl, and i was wondering if someone can help me with it
[12:58] <hybrid> lol
[12:58] <d2812> andyp : no need now.
[12:58] <andyp> d2812: can you do an 'lspci' and see what device the PCI subsys thinks you have...
[12:58] <nickrud> namikata, yes. But, the only reliable source about sound here is crimsun, watch for him
[12:58] <andyp> d2812: ok, is it workin'???
[12:59] <vasser> the mouse cursor flickers whenever an animated cursor is being shown
[12:59] <namikata> ok thx
[12:59] <d2812> andyp : for some reason it switched from onboard to my pci sound card....
[12:59] <vasser> i have tried using "HWCursor" on my xorg.conf, but that didn't help
[12:59] <Zarephath> Darn..he left...Ok what is a good program to run once I know an ip of a computer I want to scan for open ports?
[12:59] <Ro1> vasser..i tink you cant display all the eye candy
[12:59] <Stormx2> !m4a
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about m4a
[12:59] <Stormx2> Damn
[12:59] <d2812> andyp : anyidea how that would happen?
[12:59] <Ro1> too much processor usage
[12:59] <varsendaggar> how do i burn somehting to a disk just to test it in cli?
[12:59] <nickrud> Zarephath, nmapfe
[12:59] <Ro1> its like using winblows 98 with p3
[12:59] <namikata> meanwhile is there any not-so-reliable source?
[12:59] <vasser> is there a workaround for that problem ?
[12:59] <swaj> Zarephath, nmap is a great port scanner
[12:59] <Lamego> Zarephath, nmap is a good choice
[12:59] <Ro1> !ubuntu rocks
[12:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu rocks
[01:00] <andyp> d2812: had similar problems with my desktop, AC97 onboard and sb64awe PCI...
[01:00] <namikata> xD i dont know what to do anymore :P
[01:00] <Zarephath> nickrud: thanks
[01:00] <Ro1> !ubuntu
[01:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[01:00] <furriner> checking for gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'gtk+-2.0' found
[01:00] <furriner> configure: error: Library requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.0.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[01:00] <furriner> where can I find the errant files?
[01:00] <nickrud> lol, namikata you can always permanently prevent your onboard card from being active by adding the proper kernel module to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[01:00] <andyp> d2812: need to disable AC97 in BIOS to get OS to avoid it
[01:00] <skavenge> blacklist is your friend ;)
[01:00] <namikata> mmm
[01:01] <Zarephath> Lamego,swaj: Yeah however an attempt to scan  using this for example nmap -sS 192.168.0.* or a specific IP results in a message about root access...I haven't been able to sudo the command either?
[01:01] <Lamego> furriner, GRRRRRRRRR I have asked you a long time ago wether you needed the development files, which you do, for resolving that problem
[01:01] <namikata> too drastic, just want to be able to change cards without rebooting xD
[01:01] <Lamego> Zambezi, are you running nmap with sudo ?
[01:01] <niki> how do i extract file 'foo.bar_1_2_3.tar.bz2?
[01:01] <andyp> d2812: reordering of PCI devices can be made fixed some how...
[01:01] <Lamego> I mean Zarephath
[01:01] <furriner> where do I get the development files?
[01:01] <ToHellWithGA> niki: tar xjf foo.bar_1_2_3.tar.bz
[01:01] <d2812> andyp : thanks, i'll do that in my bios the next time i need to restart :)
[01:01] <furriner> repository?
[01:01] <swaj> Zarephath, do "sudo nmap -sS 192.16.0.*"
[01:01] <namikata> is there a way to change some files, then restar the sound system?
[01:01] <Lamego> furriner, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0-dev
[01:01] <nickrud> namikata, but there are 'better' methods,
[01:01] <Zarephath> Lamego: Yeah I tried it...swaj ok enclose in quotes?
[01:02] <swaj> Zarephath, no quotes :P
[01:02] <namikata> change some files again, restar the sound system again? and so on
[01:02] <namikata> xDD
[01:02] <ToHellWithGA> tar xf extracts tar, tar xzf extracts tar.gz, tar xjf extracts tar.bz2
[01:02] <Zarephath> swaj: That is what I am saying it doesn't work
[01:02] <andyp> d2812: escapes me at the moment, something to do with modprobe'ing, glad you got your sounds back, essential service if ever there was one!!
[01:02] <namikata> its like im entering a misterious world... ;)
[01:02] <claudio_> hi
[01:02] <zamaliphe> Lamego:  ok i'm going to download PC (Intel x86) alternate install CD
[01:02] <swaj> Zarephath, pastebin?
[01:02] <nickrud> namikata, sure are, but there's only one true source here for accurate info
[01:02] <Zarephath> Ok just a sec...thanks
[01:02] <Lamego> zamaliphe, if you want KDE, download kubuntu
[01:02] <Zarephath> !pastebin
[01:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:02] <niki> ToHellWithGA, that worked, thanks :)
[01:02] <LjL> ToHellWithGA: though here usually "tar xf" alone is smart enough to guess plain tar, gzip and bzip2
[01:03] <Stormx2> I need to convert an m4a file to an MP3, how?
[01:03] <ToHellWithGA> LjL: that's very pwn
[01:03] <ToHellWithGA> thanks for the info.  i thought those options were required rather than optional
[01:03] <Who_> I'm really struggling with getting wpa working, can anyone help me?
[01:03] <namikata> well, everything i tried looking in google did not work so ill have to wait
[01:03] <ToHellWithGA> niki: if you ever want to watch it extract, add a "v" to that string as in "xvf" or "xjvf"
[01:03] <LjL> ToHellWithGA: well, i suppose they were in some older version
[01:04] <namikata> thanks a lot
[01:04] <nickrud> namikata, not long, he trolls here regulary
[01:04] <namikata> its 1 am here xDD
[01:04] <namikata> but i dont plan on sleeping till i get this working
[01:05] <Zarephath> swaj: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16580
[01:05] <erUSUL> namikata: enough desperate for help as to try in english XD
[01:05] <namikata> yes
[01:05] <Zarephath> swaj: I didn't mention this is over a wireless connection..does that matter?
[01:05] <namikata> i tried in spanish channel but it didnt work
[01:05] <jarrod06> anyone know how well ubuntu would work on my macbook?
[01:06] <swaj> Zarephath, you need to replace the * with the IP
[01:06] <nickrud> headsets are interesting
[01:06] <swaj> Zarephath, wireless connection shouldn't matter
[01:06] <Raul654> is there a FAQ somewhere for installing a DVD player on ubuntu?
[01:06] <Zarephath> swaj: Same message if I do so
[01:06] <namikata> i tried in google 5 hours and it didnt work
[01:06] <Raito> So I have a widescreen laptop. When playing full screen games the thing is stretched causing it to look extreemly bad. How would I make full screen be in an exact 800 x 600 aspect ratio? So that there would be void on the sides of the screen?
[01:06] <namikata> if i can get it working, ill wait whatever it takes
[01:06] <nickrud> jarrod06, you may have issues with movie playing & flash, but not much else
[01:06] <Zarephath> swaj: And I did ping the ip to make sure I get a reply after nmap -sP 192.168.0.*
[01:07] <namikata> its a present from my girlfriend and she will be really sad if it doens work
[01:07] <namikata> :)
[01:07] <swaj> Zarephath, what is your system arch?
[01:07] <Zarephath> jarrod06: I would presume well...however I am not sure the kernel supports the newer macs yet
[01:07] <nickrud> namikata, you are evil, calling in girlfriends :)
[01:07] <Zarephath> swaj: Ubuntu PPC
[01:08] <namikata> oh   o_OU
[01:08] <zamaliphe> so the installer have not been translate to arabic yet
[01:08] <namikata> :P
[01:08] <erUSUL> namikata: well. you know it *does* work the problem is to persuade ubuntu (alsa) to use it as your primary soundcard across reboots XD
[01:08] <swaj> Zarephath, did you do "sudo apt-get install nmap" or did you build from source?
[01:08] <zamaliphe> i think i can start translating it to arabic
[01:08] <Zarephath> swaj: Nope did apt-get install nmap
[01:08] <namikata> i got it working, but then speakers didnt work anymore
[01:09] <namikata> even restarting didnt fix that
[01:09] <namikata> some problem with alsa
[01:09] <avis> i am wanting to put a audigy 2 in place of my soundblaster value on my ubuntu dapper box.  is that a problematic thing to do ?
[01:09] <Paladine> you tried reinstalling alsa?
[01:09] <zamaliphe> but i dont know if it can show right to left
[01:09] <TiG4> --- Anyone familiar with using USB bluetooth dongles? When prompted for the passcode on my phoe i enter it in but nothing happens. Is there a way to reset the name of the device and passcode?
[01:09] <nickrud> zamaliphe, they love translators, look at https://launchpad.net/rosetta
[01:09] <Zarephath> avis: Could be
[01:09] <namikata> after several crashes of the gnome-alsamixer it worked again (but dont know why)
[01:09] <namikata> i personally think it was bored
[01:10] <TiG4> --- I am using multisync
[01:10] <namikata> so it decided to run again
[01:10] <swaj> Zarephath, googling...one sec
[01:10] <Zarephath> swaj: Ok...
[01:10] <Moodles> !grub-install
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about grub-install
[01:10] <d2812> Rual654: try http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#multimedia - I used it earlier.
[01:10] <Zarephath> Moodles: What do you need to know about grub?
[01:10] <bluefoxicy> Raul654:  yo
[01:11] <Moodles> "sudo grub-install /dev/sda" results in: /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[01:11] <Xordan> Hey, how do I stop the mounted drives from being displayed on the desktop?
[01:11] <varsendaggar> all right i will have my cd's in 4-6 weeks
[01:11] <namikata> !those drugs mr. policeman, i swear they are not mine!!!
[01:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about those drugs mr. policeman, i swear they are not mine!!!
[01:11] <varsendaggar> anyone in usa just get theirs?
[01:11] <namikata> xDDD
[01:11] <LjL> !tell Xordan about icons
[01:11] <Moodles> im having trouble with a drive, i can't boot from it, I dont think grub is installing the boot thingo
[01:12] <varsendaggar> namikata, ha ha
[01:12] <Zarephath> Moodles: You have to tell it what partition to install to...ie /dev/sda1, sda2 etc
[01:12] <Xordan> Cheers LjL
[01:12] <namikata> :P
[01:12] <varsendaggar> namikata, don't screw with the bot
[01:12] <namikata> mm, sorry
[01:12] <varsendaggar> ha ha
[01:12] <namikata> wont do again
[01:12] <varsendaggar> goof
[01:12] <namikata> just testing...
[01:12] <avis> so swapping out a audio card is a potentially problematic thing in ubuntu ?  for a different alsa model ?
[01:12] <Moodles> Zarephath: I put sda1 and sda2 and it says the same thing
[01:12] <varsendaggar> ment to say good but that works too
[01:12] <compengi> !deb
[01:12] <Zarephath> Moodles: Ok I assume this is a firewire drive?
[01:12] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[01:13] <Moodles> serial ata
[01:13] <swaj> Zarephath, weird -- seems to be a mix of problems with non-i386 arch's and being compiled with gcc4
[01:13] <TiG4> --- Fixed the problem if anyone wants to know, I changed the HCI authentication from auto to user
[01:13] <swaj> Zarephath, does it run okay if you don't use root?
[01:13] <compengi> how to install a bittorent on my ubuntu system?
[01:14] <LjL> compengi: i think you have one installed
[01:14] <bruenig> compengi, do you mean a client?
[01:14] <Zarephath> swaj: Ok..any suggestions for a alternative that might work? Well I did get it to list the ips on my lan without root...other than that no
[01:14] <LjL> !tell compengl about synaptic
[01:14] <Moodles> !grub
[01:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:14] <IrIT> Hmm, i can't find any fglrx guides on the wiki (only italien)
[01:14] <LjL> !tell compengi about synaptic
[01:14] <nickrud> compengi, drag a torrent from firefox to your desktop, then double click the torrent on the desktop.
[01:14] <varsendaggar> did you know that hte guy who invented the bit torrent is autistic?
[01:14] <Zarephath> Moodles: Sorry...well maybe the serial ATA drive shouldn't be recognized as scsi?
[01:14] <bruenig> i did hooray for me
[01:14] <Knome> semi-autistic
[01:14] <hanasaki> how do i get the hibernate/suspend icons on the gnome "quit" screen?
[01:15] <compengi> i downloaded one *.deb
[01:15] <Xordan> LjL: That doesn't tell me what I need to know
[01:15] <compengi> but how to install it
[01:15] <Zarephath> Moodles: Wait a sec...did you install stuff to support SATA? I think there are some packages that need to be installed to let it work correctly
[01:15] <Xordan> It just says how to hide the trash icon or not
[01:15] <underworld288> hello all, im new to the whole linux scene
[01:15] <Paladine> vars, he is also a selout
[01:15] <Xordan> I want to stop the icons from appearing ever, full stop.
[01:15] <Paladine> sellout
[01:15] <nickrud> compengi, the answer to the direct question is dpkg -i <packagename> , but why do you need to download a deb for this?
[01:15] <Moodles> SATA works fine, I can't boot from it
[01:15] <Paladine> you referring to bram cohen I presume?
[01:16] <roler> anyone make a 2.6.17 unoffical linux kernel yet?
[01:16] <hanasaki> what package will bring in japanese language support ot gnome?
[01:16] <compengi> nickrud, then how to work it out
[01:16] <Moodles> I have to use a cdrom with grub to boot from the SATA drive, I don't think grub is writing its MBR thing to it
[01:16] <sjr> help! I need to talk to some central europeans (about off-topic stuff.. sorry!)
[01:16] <nickrud> compengi, I'm not sure what you mean
[01:16] <LjL> Xordan: that factoid used to be a little more specific, but apparently isn't anymore - i'm sorry (and i don't quite remember the procedure since i normally use KDE)
[01:17] <LjL> !tell sjr about offtopic
[01:17] <compengi> i want to install a bittorent program on my pc
[01:17] <Xordan> Ok no prob
[01:17] <protocol1_> underworld288, welcome
[01:17] <Paladine> Moodles, I had grub issues when I installed, it turned out it didn't like the order my drives were in.  I had my primary drive on ata port 2 and my secondary drive on sata port 4
[01:17] <Paladine> soon as I put them on 1 and 2
[01:17] <Xordan> LjL: I don't suppose that you can tell me if ubuntu has a nice app like gentoo's rc-update for configuring what's started on bootup?
[01:17] <Paladine> it booted fine
[01:17] <underworld288> hello, protocoll_
[01:17] <Zarephath> Moodles: It is entirely possible without other utilities for SATA that it may not be able to do so since it could be sgrub or some other name that actually will allow you to write to the SATA drive...just a guess.
[01:18] <swaj> Zarephath, maybe try knocker?  sudo apt-get install knocker
[01:18] <vladtheimpala> does all distros of linux use the same drivers?  i ask because i was unsatisfied with the ATI radeon drivers on Fedora.
[01:18] <protocol1_> hello
[01:18] <nickrud> Xordan, you need to go to system-prefs-session, tab current session, set nautilus as Style normal, then kill it. No more icons on the desktop
[01:18] <LjL> Xordan: you mean update-rc.d?
[01:18] <pdub> Xordan, I use Bum
[01:18] <Zarephath> swaj: Ok thanks...I have to run and eat thanks for the help!!!
[01:18] <Paladine> seriously, check and make sure your primary drive is in the sata 1 port on the motherboard
[01:18] <Zarephath> clear
[01:18] <Xordan> LjL: Yeah I think
[01:18] <protocol1_> underworld288, if you want to start a conversation the #ubuntu-offtopic channel would be a good place for it
[01:18] <Xordan> pdub: Ok, thanks I'll try it
[01:18] <LjL> Xordan: well that one's there in ubuntu
[01:18] <Xordan> nickrud: Great!
[01:19] <ompaul> how do I bring in a new font into gimp or openoffice it is currently in ~ompaul/.fonts
[01:19] <Paladine> moodles did you catch what I said?
[01:19] <nickrud> Xordan, as well, sysv-rc-conf for controlling startup issues
[01:19] <underworld288> ok, thanks
[01:20] <Geoffrey2> is there any way to verify that camav is actually running?
[01:20] <compengi> when i searched it in my spam i noticed that bittorent is installed but i can't find it
[01:20] <iamelite> OK... Theres an error in my package manager. it wants me to run dpkg --configure -a
[01:20] <nickrud> ompaul, that should be read natively, fc-cache rebuilds the database
[01:20] <imbrandon> ompaul, it should read them from ~/.fonts ( might have to restart the app or WM for it to read them if they are newly added )
[01:20] <iamelite> whe i do it freezes up
[01:20] <mjb> heya ... when properly tuned is ubuntu's suspend to disk/ restore as quick as Windows? ie should I bother investing the time to get it working? cheers..
[01:21] <gentoothreefour> hi
[01:21] <LjL> compengi: i think if you fire up Alacarte (the Gnome menu editor), you'll find the BitTorrent client is hidden. i think that's because you're supposed to just click on Torrents from within your browser. however, you can unhide the icon if you prefer, i suppose
[01:21] <imbrandon> Geoffrey2, sun "ps ax" and look at the running processes
[01:21] <gentoothreefour> whats a good desktop video capture??????????????????????????????????
[01:21] <imbrandon> gentoothreefour, google
[01:21] <Paladine> I have an interesting problem with open office (all apps in the suite) and the "Save As" dialog window
[01:21] <gentoothreefour> google stupid is a search engine
[01:21] <nickrud> gentoothreefour, the only one I've heard of for ubuntu is instanbul
[01:21] <ompaul> nickrud / imbrandon  it is not being read I have used fc-cache with these options  sudo fc-cache -f -v
[01:21] <compengi> LjL, how do i unhide them
[01:21] <ompaul> it is the "ubuntu" font I want to generate a graphic
[01:22] <Paladine> instead of normal characters the entire dialog is covered in squares
[01:22] <LjL> mjb: i don't know what you mean with "when properly tuned" -- me, i'm happy enough when i can get it to *work*. but when i do, suspend to RAM is slower than on Windows, and hibernation can be faster or slower depending on the amount of allocated memory (but it's usually kind of slower for me)
[01:22] <nickrud> ompaul, no clue then, I keep a lot of fonts in .fonts and it always reads them ...
[01:22] <Paladine> it is the only dialog I have found in the whole suite where this happens
[01:22] <Paladine> but it is in all the apps
[01:22] <ompaul> nickrud, okay maybe I try a different app
[01:22] <mjb> cheers ljl I guess I'll look at it eventually
[01:22] <Paladine> so it is impossible to read
[01:22] <LjL> compengi: let's do it one thing at a time - do you have Alacarte open and have you located the bittorrent icon?
[01:22] <nickrud> ompaul, ah, the ubuntu font. I got that, but never tried it
[01:22] <imbrandon> ompaul, there is another way to do it listed here ( says linux but works in ubuntu fine ) http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/12/adding-windows-fonts-in-linux.html
[01:23] <Amaranth> LjL: lol, that's the whole process
[01:23] <imbrandon> ompaul, is it the ttf ubuntu fornt or the odt one ?
[01:23] <Amaranth> LjL: After that all you do is tick the box. :P
[01:23] <ompaul> imbrandon, the ttf
[01:23] <LjL> Amaranth: well then perhaps he should have asked me, like, "how do i open this alacarte", or "what is alacarte", or "what is a menu", or "what is an icon" ;-)
[01:23] <imbrandon> hrm yea follow the way on that link but personaly i just put it in .fonts and restarted kde , worked fine
[01:24] <ompaul> ahh maybe restart gnome
[01:24] <Tommy2k4> 1024x768 makes my eyes bleed
[01:24] <ompaul> back in a few
[01:24] <nickrud> ompaul, the ttf shows & is usable in gimp here, ubuntu-title.ttf is in ~/.fonts
[01:25] <imbrandon> nickrud, here also, hmm dunno what might be wrong
[01:25] <imbrandon> with his
[01:25] <nickrud> imbrandon, well, he does do some odd things with his machines, gotta test stuff, he said once
[01:25] <iamelite> I have this error "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. "    I ran it... and it stops working.
[01:25] <Paladine> hey nickrud check this out, it is an interesting one
[01:25] <skavenge> anyone monkeyed with crystalcursors? i ran the cli config which is supposed to change the cursors system-wide in X, restarted and everything its still using the default cursors under system > preferences > mouse?
[01:26] <compengi> LjL, ty i found it
[01:26] <ompaul> imbrandon, nickrud it was a restart of gnome that I needed to do
[01:26] <ompaul> imbrandon, nickrud thanks guys
[01:26] <Paladine> http://www.paladine.org.uk/funky-saveas-dialog.jpg  <- thats what I get when I try and "Save As" from any app in openoffice
[01:26] <imbrandon> np
[01:26] <nickrud> ompaul, well you do mess hard with your machines :)
[01:26] <vanberge> BCK14: i found a program, but it also doesnt work very well.  ChBg
[01:26] <sanityx> hey, does ubuntu include a grapical program for managin services?
[01:27] <Paladine> it only happens in that one dialog
[01:27] <skavenge> sanityx ; yes
[01:27] <sanityx> thanks sk
[01:27] <skavenge> sanity; in gnome, system > administration > services
[01:27] <nickrud> Paladine, font issues. That much I'll say, but the fix? meh
[01:27] <erUSUL> Paladine: which locale are you using?
[01:27] <sanityx> thanks a lot sk, you
[01:27] <sanityx> you're a lifesaver*
[01:27] <skavenge> np
[01:28] <Paladine> nick, yeah i figured a font issue but then, why only in that dialog, every other dialog in open office works fine
[01:28] <ToHellWithGA> how can i input unicode using the compose key?
[01:28] <nickrud> sanityx, it's pretty limited, the package sysv-rc-conf gives you much better control
[01:28] <Paladine> er gb_en
[01:28] <sanityx> my boss is giving me one day to learn to use communigate
[01:28] <iamelite> NVM... diddnt freze this time
[01:28] <sanityx> nickrud: if i search for sysv-rc-conf in synaptic will it come up?
[01:28] <Geoffrey2> hmm, the only listing I see is freshclam, which I thought was the updater for the package....
[01:29] <nickrud> Paladine, not a clue. I live by openoffice, so I hope never to see that :)
[01:29] <nickrud> sanityx, yes
[01:29] <Paladine> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[01:29] <vanberge> anybody know, is amarok 1.4 safe??  i.e. can i install it without worrying about it bugging up other things?
[01:29] <sanityx> ty
[01:29] <matos> wow! huge communitty!!!
[01:29] <matos> hello!
[01:29] <eobanb> welcome, matos
[01:29] <nickrud> yah, the numbers have inched up since the exploit
[01:29] <sanityx> My boss gave me one day to learn communigate pro. its giving me a headache
[01:29] <matos> i can't boot a 2.4 kernel
[01:30] <sysdoc> matos, that is because Ubuntu rocks
[01:30] <ani_max> hi. anyone know how to setup media in ubuntu? like xvid etc?
[01:30] <troughton> can anyone help me i cant use my dvd wr
[01:30] <NickGarvey> matos: what happens that doesn't let you boot it?
[01:30] <eobanb> matos, i'm afraid not.  2.6 is the way to go these days.
[01:30] <nickrud> !xvid
[01:30] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:30] <brlancer> did the desktop ubuntu install grow significantly? I'm trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper and it wants an extra 625MB on /usr in addition to the 120MB I have free (my apt cache is nfs mounted, it shouldn't be for that)
[01:30] <ani_max> nickrud, thanks
[01:30] <nickrud> ani_max, see ubotu just above for some good links
[01:30] <nickrud> yw
[01:30] <NickGarvey> matos: I know "damn small linux" uses 2.4 if you want
[01:30] <LjL> vanberge: well, try apt-get. if it doesn't attempt to upgrade any dependencies, it should be safe enough
[01:30] <__mikem> matos, some older hardware doesn't support newer versions of the kernel
[01:31] <matos> i love the 2.6
[01:31] <Paladine> erUSUL, I am using en_GB.UTF-8
[01:31] <matos> but i can't burn cd's with it
[01:31] <matos> so i need to try the 2.4
[01:31] <__mikem> matos what are the specs of the box you are using
[01:31] <Knome> anyone know how to uninstall SDL (Simple DirectMedia Layer)?
[01:31] <nickrud> someone should hang shilling, in effigy
[01:32] <LjL> Knome: have you tried with synaptic, aptitude or apt-get?
[01:32] <Knome> LjL: yeah, the package isn't listed
[01:32] <snoops> aptitude is standard for kde right?
[01:32] <eobanb> matos, i suspect your CD-burning problem is not related to your kernel version in particular
[01:32] <vollmer> does anyone know if/when/or already a ubuntu package for the 2.6.17 kernel will be released? I wand the new broadcom hotness, but I'd rather not roll my own kernel
[01:32] <LjL> Knome: couldn't the package you're looking for be called libsdl-1.2 ?
[01:32] <DShepherd> snoops: no
[01:33] <LjL> Knome: libsdl1.2 actually
[01:33] <nickrud> snoops, aptitude is standard for nothing; it just better all around
[01:33] <troughton> can anyone tell me how i can get my dvd player playing dvd's or burning as the applications wount access it
[01:33] <__mikem> according to my sat scores I have a lot of aptitude
[01:33] <DShepherd> snoops: do you mean adpept?
[01:33] <matos> board matsonic (7???); pII 266; riva TNT2; 256RAM; HP CDRW 8100 series
[01:33] <Knome> LjL: yeah, maybe
[01:33] <DShepherd> s/adpept/adept
[01:33] <eobanb> !tell troughton about restricted
[01:33] <nickrud> __mikem, that truly sucked ;)
[01:33] <troughton> i have been and looked at restricted
[01:33] <MusicEatingPanda> is there a way i can install the dapper icons on breezy?
[01:33] <snoops> oh I thought aptitude was a renamed(with different features?) version of apt-get for kde
[01:33] <eobanb> troughton, to play back encrypted DVDs you need to install libdvdcss
[01:33] <matos> i'm using gentoo also and i can't burn with it too
[01:33] <LjL> !tell snoops about aptitude
[01:33] <eobanb> and the restricted formats page tells you how.
[01:34] <troughton> i have done eobanb
[01:34] <snoops> ta
[01:34] <__mikem> matos, just what I expected, you might want to see if you can get a newer computer, there are places where people give them away. And use the newer version of the kernel as the older versions are subjected to vulnerabilities most of which stem from buffer overflow
[01:34] <MusicEatingPanda> anyone?
[01:34] <skavenge> and replaced totem-gstreamer with totem-xine?
[01:34] <nickrud> snoops, no, it's something entirely different: but fundamentally, it tracks dependencies. That's it's real break from apt-get
[01:34] <sorush20> hi guys how do I apply a patch from a source to a source?
[01:34] <__mikem> nickrud, its a pun, all puns suck
[01:34] <MusicEatingPanda> i was thikning of using a dapper repo
[01:34] <sorush20> hi guys how do I apply a patch from a source to its source?
[01:34] <eobanb> matos, a pentium II machine is not particularly well-suited to run a modern distribution like ubuntu.
[01:34] <nickrud> __mikem, yes. And I love saying that ;P
[01:34] <vanberge> LjL: do you use banshee by chance?  :-)
[01:35] <matos> i'm using xubuntu
[01:35] <LjL> vanberge: nope
[01:35] <s|k> MusicEatingPanda: you can download 'Human' I think from Gnome-looks
[01:35] <eobanb> matos, well, what is the exact problem you're having with burning CDs
[01:35] <Knome> LjL: thanks, I found it
[01:35] <__mikem> matos, I didn't know that you could use version 2.4 of the kernel in xubuntu
[01:35] <eobanb> __mikem, you can't
[01:35] <MusicEatingPanda> s|k ah but cant i install the newer icon pack threw the dapper repo also?
[01:35] <s|k> MusicEatingPanda: why would you want to do that?
[01:35] <matos> the 2.4 kernel is in the repository
[01:35] <MusicEatingPanda> s|k cuz >.>
[01:36] <Protocol1> i do I check if I have direct rendering?
[01:36] <matos> and i do't see why not
[01:36] <Dapperguy> how can you join ubuntu to a windows doamin?
[01:36] <__mikem> matos, theres your problem, none of the packages that come with xubuntu were compiled with the older kernel headers
[01:36] <s|k> MusicEatingPanda: they do not have a repository just for icons.
[01:36] <__mikem> so they will not work.
[01:36] <LjL> matos: it's certainly not in my dapper repositories.
[01:36] <nickrud> Protocol1, glxinfo | grep -i direct  : if it says yes, you're good to go
[01:36] <matos> i didn't touch he apt list
[01:36] <sam_> cron question: does stuff in /etc/cron.d automatically get executed?
[01:36] <__mikem> matos, if you were able to boot into linux to download the older kernel, why do you need it in the first place?
[01:36] <skavenge> sam_; yes
[01:37] <LjL> matos: you're right. it actually is, except it's called kernel-image rather than linux-image. sorry
[01:37] <sam_> skavenge: according to the specified interval?
[01:37] <eobanb> matos, i don't see kernel 2.4 anywhere
[01:37] <eobanb> oh wait, you're right, it is there
[01:37] <sanityx> Does Xubuntu include a graphical service manager also?
[01:37] <skavenge> sam_; i really haven't dealt with it personally
[01:37] <__mikem> LjL, it doesn't matter if its available, there isn't a single package in the newer ubuntu releases that is compatible with 2.4
[01:37] <matos> if someone wants to see
[01:37] <ubuntuman> ups..i havent tried to play any music yet..tried now..and i get no sound..i use a usb headset
[01:37] <Dapperguy> ubuntu and joining a windows domain...anybody?
[01:37] <eobanb> matos, i still highly doubt the CD burning problem is necessarily related to your kernel version
[01:37] <sam_> skavenge: but you know that stuff in /etc/cron.d happens without being syminked to externally (for example, from /etc/cron.daily)
[01:37] <matos> i've tried the gentoo foruns
[01:37] <matos> http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-471199-highlight-.html
[01:37] <MusicEatingPanda> s|k they have the gnome icon theme and i got 2.12.1 im sure dapper as a newer version
[01:37] <matos> the error is there
[01:38] <Protocol1> nickrud, thanks
[01:38] <matos> and it's the same
[01:38] <__mikem> matos, what is this error?
[01:38] <nickrud> sam_, the cron.d dir is checked very often, I think once a minute
[01:38] <vollmer> is there any eta for a ubuntu offical 2.6.17 kernel package, a 'when it's ready' is a perfectly good answer as I'll roll my own, but if someone knows it's going to come out in the next few days I'll wait
[01:38] <eobanb> matos, out of practicality, i'd pretty much forget about using kernel 2.4 with ubuntu
[01:38] <sam_> nickrud: awesome, that's what i needed to know
[01:38] <sam_> nickrud, skavenge: thanks
[01:38] <matos> the error
[01:38] <matos>  cdrecord: Success. flush cache: scsi sendcmd: no error
[01:38] <matos> CDB:  35 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[01:38] <matos> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
[01:38] <matos> Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 12 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00
[01:38] <matos> Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
[01:38] <matos> Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0
[01:38] <eobanb> !paste
[01:38] <matos> Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid)
[01:38] <LjL> !pastebin
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[01:38] <matos> cmd finished after 7550.634s timeout 200s
[01:38] <matos> Trouble flushing the cache
[01:38] <matos> Fixating time: 7550.638s
[01:39] <matos> cdrecord: fifo had 11497 puts and 11497 gets.
[01:39] <__mikem> eobanb, there is no way it would work anyway.
[01:39] <skavenge> yikes
[01:39] <matos> cdrecord: fifo was 0 times empty and 11384 times full, min fill was 93%.
[01:39] <eobanb> matos, please don't do that again
[01:39] <NickGarvey> !paste > matos
[01:39] <matos> sory
[01:39] <matos> sorry!!!
[01:39] <__mikem> matos, that is a hardware error, namely that you are not using a proper cd media
[01:39] <matos> sory
[01:39] <matos> NOob
[01:39] <TitanQ> When I boot I get a X server error saying cant open RGB_DB /usr/share/X11/rgb'b'
[01:39] <__mikem> matos, jsut so you know there is infact a big difference between cd-r's and dvd-r's and they are NOT interchangeable
[01:39] <matos> no man
[01:40] <matos> ive tried in gentoo 2.6.15
[01:40] <Xordan> nickrud: I uncheck the 'activate' box in bum next to something I don't want to load at boot... but after I click save the box is still checked.. is that normal?
[01:40] <matos> ididn't work with 3-4 cd
[01:40] <MarkG> TitanQ ya trying to get the ati 8.25 drivers up?
[01:40] <vanberge> i've used ubuntu alot, so im pretty familiar with it... however, i've just recently done a complete migration to ubuntu and was wondering what is the 'recommended' application for ipod interfacing/synchronization.
[01:40] <__mikem> matos ITS NOT A SOFTWARE PROBLEM, you are not using a proper cd-r
[01:40] <vanberge> banshee?
[01:40] <sirmixadigi> hey all....noob here:(
[01:40] <eobanb> matos, do you see this line? Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
[01:40] <matos> i've burned 3 cd's using mdk 10.1 default kernel
[01:40] <__mikem> DOn't worry, we are USUALLY friendly
[01:40] <nickrud> Xordan, use sysv-rc-conf. It's a tool that lives closer to the heart.
[01:40] <skavenge> vanberge ; i like gtkpod myself, i hear banshee is popular
[01:41] <TitanQ> markg: no was trying to install compiz and xgl for nvidia
[01:41] <__mikem> eobanb, how much do you wnat to bet he is trying to burn as a cd onto a dvd
[01:41] <eobanb> TitanQ, that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl then
[01:41] <matos> 2.6.8.??
[01:41] <eobanb> __mikem, it seems likely..
[01:41] <Xordan> nickrud: Is that already installed by default? I don't seem to have that command.
[01:41] <vollmer> m(__)m
[01:41] <nickrud> Xordan, I've messed with bum, but don't trust it
[01:41] <matos> and in xubuntu didn't work too
[01:41] <Xordan> ok
[01:41] <Dracura> Hey guys, I'm back. Reinstalled dapper. Not sure if i still have the boot problem, but the login for dapper doesn't work.
[01:41] <TitanQ> Well Id like to just make it normal not try to troubleshoot xgl
[01:41] <MarkG> ahh I spent 2 weeks of evening fighting the 8.25 on dapper with my x1900xtx
[01:41] <matos> not a media problem
[01:41] <MusicEatingPanda> how do i aptget the newer gnome icon theme from dapper in breezy >.>
[01:42] <__mikem> eobanb, good luck, I am not going to argue
[01:42] <GoldenH> wow looks busy in here :)
[01:42] <nickrud> Xordan, no, you need to install it. If you can't find it in synaptic, you'll need to enable some extra stuff.
[01:42] <MarkG> finally got it but now I can't get wine going for x64 with the wow patch  ;-/
[01:42] <Xordan> found it in apt-get
[01:42] <Paladine> matos, itis probably just a bad cd, try a few more
[01:42] <Xordan> installing now
[01:42] <eobanb> matos, do you have two CD drives?
[01:42] <matos> no way
[01:42] <skavenge> MusicEatingPanda ; they aren't just listed as icons your going to have to get the whole themepack
[01:42] <matos> 6 cd's?
[01:42] <__mikem> Paladine, I would hope after seing a media error he tried that, other wise, the only words I can use to discribe him will get me banned
[01:42] <eobanb> matos, are you using dapper?
[01:42] <MusicEatingPanda> skavenge but in the repos there is JUST the icon theme
[01:42] <matos> i've burned cd's in mdk no prblem
[01:43] <ToHellWithGA> i need help choosing a keyboard type now that i have a new USB keyboard.  it has the "normal" keys and also left and right windows keys, a menu key, and 10 media keys
[01:43] <MarkG> Anybody running x64 and have wine running from source?
[01:43] <Xordan> nickrud: Ah, this is really nice :)
[01:43] <matos> xubuntu 6.06
[01:43] <skavenge> MusicEatingPanda ; i havent seen it i guess then
[01:43] <nickrud> Xordan, yup :)
[01:43] <impl> o.O
[01:43] <nickrud> old tools, good tools
[01:43] <eobanb> matos, but the drive has worked before?
[01:43] <DosBubba> DCC SEND irc-vaccus-com-owns-you 0 0 0
[01:43] <eobanb> ugh
[01:43] <DosBubba> lawl
[01:43] <nicktk1> hello
[01:43] <__mikem> crap that exploit again
[01:43] <MusicEatingPanda> skavenge gnome-icon-theme 2.12.1-0ubuntu1    Im sure dapper has a new one cuz i member the menu icons being all nice and shiney
[01:43] <__mikem> WHO WAS IT!!!!
[01:44] <nickrud> heh, minor version of it
[01:44] <DosBubba> DCC SEND irc-vaccus-com-owns-you 0 0 0
[01:44] <Paladine> MarkG, nope I had no luck instaling wine, but I did manage to get cedega to install work and wine kinda works from my crossover installation in the cxoffice/bin/ director
[01:44] <eobanb> !ops
[01:44] <hyphenated> !ops
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[01:44] <__mikem> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <eobanb> what an idiot.
[01:44] <Jimmey> DosBubba, what're you doing?
[01:44] <Aproxima> right
[01:44] <DosBubba> !ops
[01:44] <__mikem> SOMEONE HELP US
[01:44] <nicktk1> err
[01:44] <nickrud> done
[01:44] <__mikem> alright, now I am mad!!!!1
[01:44] <nicktk1> i feel like im gonna be laughed at if i ask this
[01:44] <nickrud> Thanks, AM
[01:44] <Amaranth> Patience young padawan.
[01:44] <__mikem> who the hell sending these people in here
[01:44] <nickrud> Thanks, Amaranth
[01:45] <eobanb> nicktk1, just ask
[01:45] <matos> i couldn't burn in gentoo a week ago; installed mdk and burned 3 cd's; then installed xubuntu and it didn't worked too
[01:45] <nicktk1> ok
[01:45] <Amaranth> Fix your router and they won't be able to do it.
[01:45] <Mat1> I installed Java6 but how do I enable it?
[01:45] <MarkG> Pala is cedega a pay service if ya have the files already ?  I didn't renew my sub to it when it expired
[01:45] <Xordan> nickrud: Do I need the crons running?
[01:45] <nicktk1> than how do you install this....linux program
[01:45] <skavenge> ookay .. i guess bitchx felt like disconnecting me from freenode heh
[01:45] <eobanb> !tell Mat1 about java
[01:45] <nicktk1> or should i look around
[01:45] <Amaranth> MarkG: Only if you want new versions.
[01:45] <__mikem> eobanb, as I was saying before the son of saton came in here, the other posibility is he is using a cd-rw that wasn't properly erased
[01:45] <MusicEatingPanda> skavenge gnome-icon-theme 2.12.1-0ubuntu1    Im sure dapper has a new one cuz i member the menu icons being all nice and shiney
[01:45] <nickrud> Xordan, yes you do.
[01:45] <Xordan> I never used to use cron for anything
[01:45] <Paladine> Mark, yeah it is like 5 bucks a month
[01:45] <Xordan> ok
[01:45] <Xordan> Will enable again
[01:45] <Amaranth> Anyone who just got disconnected, please fix your router.
[01:45] <Paladine> I installed cedega from a .deb with --force-architecture
[01:45] <Paladine> works good
[01:46] <Amaranth> Paladine: *boggle*
[01:46] <nickrud> Xordan, it's natively running in ubuntu
[01:46] <Paladine> can't get crossover to work though
[01:46] <Xordan> Ok
[01:46] <Amaranth> Paladine: 64-bit?
[01:46] <__mikem> Amaranth we have been telling people to do that for months, some people just don't listen
[01:46] <MarkG> I just remember having to put in my transworld login when it launched
[01:46] <Paladine> Amaranth, yeah
[01:46] <nicktk1> >>
[01:46] <nicktk1> <<
[01:46] <TitanQ> How do you reinstall the whole xserver stuff?
[01:46] <Amaranth> __mikem: I'm about to start banning people who keep getting disconnected.
[01:46] <nickrud> Amaranth, :)
[01:46] <Dracura> Hey, the login screen for dapper is corrupted fr me.
[01:46] <ompaul> der0b Mixx  hybrid bruenig fix your router to connect to port 8001 please
[01:46] <Amaranth> __mikem: They're easier to get rid of than the morons who try the exploit.
[01:46] <__mikem> :s not the solution, ignurance is not a crime I am afraid
[01:46] <Amaranth> nickrud: Seriously.
[01:46] <__mikem> just set up a bot that automaticly banns any screenname that types that
[01:47] <nicktk1> ok first i should ask.....can i still use my wireless router w/ ubuntu linux os
[01:47] <nickrud> Amaranth, well, your call.
[01:47] <Amaranth> __mikem: It is here, it disrupts the channel.
[01:47] <MarkG> I've heard that wow actually runs better on the new wine than in cedega but don't know for sure..
[01:47] <Mat1> I followed this order: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jdk/install-linux.html it is installed, but it is not set as default, nor can I choose to set it default.
[01:47] <Amaranth> __mikem: We had one, people still get disconnected though.
[01:47] <skavenge> MusicEatingPanda ; yeah i found it, can tell you the package name but i dont know what repo its in
[01:47] <Jimmey> What exploit was it? And what was it exploiting ?
[01:47] <matos> why i can't use a 2.4 with 6.06?
[01:47] <__mikem> good point, and becides, I am not affected, netgear routers seem to be unaffected
[01:47] <Amaranth> Jimmey: Bug in cheap linksys and netgear routers.
[01:47] <sanityx> Because it's built to run on 2.6?
[01:47] <Paladine> Amaranth, I tried going the 32bit chroot option, but I must have cocked up my chroot somehow cos I can't get it to build anything at all, so i tried the --force-architecture arg in my 64bit environment and it worked
[01:47] <Xordan> ok, rebooting to test this out :) Thanks for your help
[01:47] <nicktk1> dam...
[01:47] <nickrud> Jimmey, it's a very old exploit, that's why people get impatient
[01:47] <matos> could you be more specific?
[01:47] <TitanQ> exit
[01:48] <__mikem> Amaranth, I use a netgear router, my computer is connected through a lan, it didn't affect me
[01:48] <Jimmey> Amaranth: Ahh, I think I've seen that before. How can people avoid being exploited?
[01:48] <Amaranth> Paladine: cedega includes almost everything it needs
[01:48] <marnanel> I just upgraded to dapper from breezy on my laptop. Everything works fine (thank you!) but I used to be able to scroll using the right-hand side of the trackpad, and that's not working any more. What should I do to turn this back on?
[01:48] <__mikem> Jimmy get a better router
[01:48] <Amaranth> Jimmey: If you get an updated firmware or a new router you should be ok.
[01:48] <sanityx> Well matos, I don't know for sure, but I would assume that all the packages were compiled to run on 2.6, so they may either not run at all on 2.4, or run with about 2348283974 errors.
[01:48] <Jimmey> Amaranth: I wasn't affected anyway, so it's okay.
[01:48] <Paladine> just wish i could get past the stupid TK error I get when I try and run crossover
[01:48] <Amaranth> marnanel: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[01:48] <__mikem> sanityx I TOLD HIM THAT ABOUT 200 LINES AGO
[01:49] <matos> so why is it in the repositories?
[01:49] <sanityx> __mikem oh well.
[01:49] <GoldenH> can anyone give me a hand getting the task manager thingy back into the gnome panel?
[01:49] <Dracura> can anyone help me with my login screen problem?
[01:49] <MusicEatingPanda> skavenge, Hmm me ither idk x.x
[01:49] <__mikem> Dracura sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:49] <sanityx> matos, To confuse people like you?
[01:49] <matos> thankx!
[01:49] <sanityx> Why do you want to run 2.4 so bad
[01:49] <screwston> hey guys, i can't see my USB Device in Ubuntu's device manager. what is wrong?
[01:49] <Geoffrey2> well, I have a Netgear router..and it definately was affecting me...only problem is, nobody could tell me what to do beyond "fix it"
[01:50] <CuriosCat> What chipsets have people had good experiences with running Ubuntu? (Be nice to have things like onboard NICs work out of the box :)
[01:50] <matos> i can't burn cd's
[01:50] <Paladine> screwston, maybe it is not supported
[01:50] <sanityx> oo
[01:50] <__mikem> sanityx he thinks for some reason thats causing a disk media error when burning cd's
[01:50] <Dracura> from one of the virtual things?
[01:50] <sanityx> yeah i really doubt thats from the kernel
[01:50] <skavenge> you dont want anything broadcom if you want the nic working out of the box heh
[01:50] <matos> so thats for what?
[01:50] <Paladine> curiouscat, I have nforce4 with ac97 sound and 2 NICs inboard, it all worked out of the box with ubu, although I am having some issues with 6 channel sound
[01:50] <matos> not media problema after 6 cd's
[01:51] <__mikem> sanityx, there are to posible reasons for his problems, 1, he is using a cd-rw that still has data on it, or 2, he is using a dvd-r
[01:51] <sanityx> lol
[01:51] <GoldenH> yeah it took me two days to get my broadcom wireless nic working lol
[01:51] <__mikem> matos, is that cd by any chance a cd-rw
[01:51] <Geoffrey2> actually, you don't want broadcom if you want it to work at all
[01:51] <GoldenH> but i found a way that works
[01:51] <matos> cd-r
[01:51] <salah> I have now configured my printer, but with a little problem: the printer uses only 1/4 of the paper, any idea how to fix this?
[01:51] <__mikem> are you sure, because it might be that there is already data on it
[01:51] <skavenge> GoldenH ; me as well, 2 days, works like a charm now though
[01:51] <CuriosCat> paladine: This is for a server, so I'm not too worried about sound. I've got an older nforce system (nforce2) at home, but was reading on their web site about needing to install extra drivers etc.
[01:51] <matos> is there data on 6 new cd's?
[01:52] <GoldenH> you just need to extract the firmware
[01:52] <CuriosCat> so was a little concerned about them and linux support, even though I like their chipset in general. So glad to hear it worked out of the box.
[01:52] <__mikem> I don't know, but lets get something streight, IT IS NOT A KERNEL ISSUE
[01:52] <Paladine> CuriousCat, I just installed from the live cd and sound/nics were working after the first boot
[01:52] <mikere> Only thing I had to work on when I installed Ubuntu was installing nvidia driver and getting WPA-PSK working (had to do manually)
[01:52] <CuriosCat> cool
[01:52] <GoldenH> anyway does anyone know anything about getting a task manager bar in the gnome panel back?
[01:52] <matos> explain me this
[01:52] <matos> cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.15-25-386
[01:52] <matos> cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer.
[01:52] <matos> cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris.
[01:52] <nicktk1> GAR LINUX FOR IPODS
[01:53] <__mikem> matos, that means that the program was compiled with older kernel headers
[01:53] <skavenge> my snafu was getting the module that ubuntu *thought* my nic needed to not run so ndiswrapper could pick it up .. then i found blacklist heh ;)
[01:53] <ubuntuman> ack..i dont see whats wrong..i choose my usb headset in the mixer..still no sound
[01:53] <__mikem> updating the program should fix that
[01:53] <marnanel> Amaranth: thank you so much
[01:54] <void^> matos: the author of cdrecord has "issues", google on it for details and entertainment ;)
[01:54] <__mikem> I have to say though, whoever wrote that warning message was a moron
[01:54] <Geoffrey2> as far as this router exploit goes....beyond downloading a firmware update (which doesn't exist for my router), is there any way to configure a router to eliminate that problem?
[01:54] <matos> this means that by the time that the ide-scsi support has drpped cdr doesn't work well on linux
[01:54] <mikere> Geoffrey2: which router exploit?
[01:54] <nicktk1> do i keep ubuntu as a rar archive?
[01:54] <namikata> anyone knows how to make two sound cards work at the same time? thanks!
[01:54] <matos> besides i'm using cdrecord from 6.06
[01:54] <__mikem> matos, just use a different cd burner, xfce has a stock burner that I heard works well
[01:55] <GoldenH> i'm trying to get the openoffice.org preloader thing working that lets me access all the programs from one item on the bar but it's missing. and now gaim isn't showing on any of the bars either :/
[01:55] <klees> how can i tell what a multimedia key is referred as?  (ex XF86....)
[01:55] <matos> i'm using xfburn
[01:55] <__mikem> matos just use a different burner, after such a moronic warning message, I wouldn't touch that program with a 10 foot pull
[01:55] <matos> is just a frontend to cdrecord
[01:55] <Geoffrey2> um, the one that just knocked about two dozen people off of irc?
[01:55] <Xordan> nickrud: All working, except that nautillus runs every login. How do I stop it running on login?
[01:55] <Paladine> matos, use the nautilus extension, it works a treat
[01:55] <__mikem> the underlying program is still cdrecord, just USE A DIFFERENT RECORDER
[01:55] <nicktk1> keep as rar and burn it to cd? or do i extract files onto a cd (or usb fals drive)
[01:55] <Raul654> is there a FAQ somewhere for installing a DVD player on ubuntu?
[01:56] <Raul654> Totem cannot seem to do it
[01:56] <klees> how can i tell what a multimedia key is referred as?  (ex XF86....)
[01:56] <__mikem> and someone who actually knows what they are doing aught to fix the source code for that program
[01:56] <Paladine> Raul, check out VLC
[01:56] <mikere> Geoffrey2: was more interested in what kind of router was vulnerable =)
[01:56] <siriusly> or xine-ui
[01:56] <void^> __mikem: that's a message by cdrecord, it's about a problem the cdrecord author has with certain kernel dev policies
[01:56] <nickrud> Xordan, the sessions dialog is where nautilus is started; are you sure you didn't set it for restart/respawn?
[01:56] <Raul654> ah, ok
[01:56] <namikata> hello, anyone knows how to make two sound cards work at the same time? thanks!
[01:56] <ubuntuman> anyone here able to help me with this sound issue..?
[01:56] <d2812> Raul654 - I sent you a link earlier. http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#multimedia
[01:56] <Raul654> d2 -ah, I didn't see that
[01:56] <Raul654> thanks
[01:56] <nicktk1> errr
[01:57] <__mikem> void^ you don't tell people to downgrade their kernel if the program doesn't work, you tell them to use another product, its just moronic
[01:57] <matos> i give up; the recorder it's working
[01:57] <Xordan> nickrud: Yeah. I set it to normal, then I killed it. It doesn't restart after being killed, just every time I login
[01:57] <matos> thankx anyway
[01:57] <MusicEatingPanda> how do i aptget the newer gnome icon theme from dapper in breezy >.>
[01:57] <funkmaster> how would i unintall a program which i selfcompiled?
[01:57] <void^> __mikem: i don't, nobody does, i'm telling you and everyone else to ignore the message and google on it for background information :/
[01:57] <nickrud> Xordan, I haven't actually tested that path recently, brb
[01:57] <klees> how can i tell what a multimedia key is referred as?  (ex XF86....)
[01:57] <klees> keystroke
[01:58] <__mikem> void^ my point exactly, but aparently our little friend there does take it seriously
[01:59] <skavenge> anyone monkeyed with crystalcursors? i ran the cli config which is supposed to change the cursors system-wide in X, restarted and everything its still using the default cursors under system > preferences > mouse?
[01:59] <__mikem> skavange, theres a section in your xorg.conf file that deals with cursors, check that out
[01:59] <Geoffrey2> mikere, I'm not sure...obviously my router....this is the second time I've been in here when there's been a mass kockoff of people....last time I was one of them....both times people have said "fix your router", but when asked how...dead silence.....
[02:00] <skavenge> __mikem ; okay
[02:00] <__mikem> Geoffrey2 you may have to spend money on a router, or connect through a proxy
[02:01] <masinger53> Hello, all:  Working on GPRS/GSM "air card per http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90421&highlight=sony+ericsson+gc83 Q:  what is the Ubuntu equiv of kudzu?
[02:01] <mikere> Geoffrey2: was asking because I've had connection problems with my ISP and the ISP support guy had me shut down modem, router and all computers and then bring up modem first, then router - wouldn't work with modem restart.  Suspecting a problem with my router as well
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ANd some of the names those guys pick.. wow
[02:02] <halibut> are there any users with picasa installed?
[02:03] <nickrud> ok, who was asking about killing nautilus :)
[02:03] <salah> I have now configured my printer, but with a little problem: the printer uses only 1/4 of the paper, any idea how to fix this?
[02:03] <Xordan> nickrud: Ok, the problem was that I didn't have the 'automaticall save session' box checked
[02:04] <nickrud> after killing nautilus after setting it as normal in sessions, you must also do a gnome-session-save
[02:04] <NickGarvey> does the free in freenode mean free software (as in freedom)?
[02:04] <nickrud> Xordan, yes, precisely
[02:04] <Xordan> nickrud: However, when I login I have no desktop image now :)
[02:04] <_nano_> has anyone observed noticable speed difference by using the 686 kernel as opposed to the 386 one?
[02:04] <nickrud> Xordan, desktop, no desktop, you choose
[02:04] <__mikem> yes, nautilus also manages the desktop einstine
[02:04] <Xordan> nickrud: So there's no choice to have a desktop without the annoying icons?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> anyone here install KDE desktop
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: me
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: 3.5.1
[02:05] <__mikem> you could remove the icons from your desktop
[02:05] <Xordan> I can't
[02:05] <__mikem> by the way, have the decided on the name of the next distro
[02:05] <masinger53> nano: yes - big difference on my laptop
[02:05] <Xordan> They're the mounted drive ones
[02:05] <NickGarvey> __mikem: edgy eft
[02:05] <nickrud> Xordan, yes, you found the fix: the session save: but, manage your icons, make them useful. That's what a desktop is for.
[02:05] <Ro1> when is the next distro coming out?
[02:05] <Paladine> Xorden, you can just remove them
[02:05] <__mikem> Another animal, go figure
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> NickGarvey: Was there a reason you dint use Kubuntu
[02:05] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: because I run suse
[02:06] <mikere> and then Fuzzy Ferret?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: ;)
[02:06] <Ro1> ha
[02:06] <skavenge> what is an 'eft'? a bird?
[02:06] <NickGarvey> skavenge: yes, wood duck
[02:06] <jrib> !eft
[02:06] <Ro1> dunon
[02:06] <Xordan> nickrud: I have about 20 mount point icons which I _can't_ use because they're for system use
[02:06] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[02:06] <skavenge> i see
[02:06] <Ro1> !edgy
[02:06] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[02:06] <NickGarvey> or not..
[02:06] <NickGarvey> what is a duck then
[02:06] <__mikem> Its not even in beta yet according to the version number
[02:06] <NickGarvey> hmm
[02:07] <skavenge> newt, duck, whatever heh
[02:07] <NickGarvey> someone else had that name
[02:07] <NickGarvey> something*
[02:07] <halibut> where are program icons stored in ubuntu?
[02:07] <__mikem> dapper drake is a duck
[02:07] <NickGarvey> what was a wood duck...
[02:07] <Xordan> nickrud: I have two instances of gentoo running through ubuntu, and I click a lot of things like sys and dev over so I can run them alongside using the same kernel. Having all those icons on the desktop isn't nice :P
[02:07] <Xordan> *click = link :P
[02:07] <nickrud> Xordan, ah, another question entirely. gconf-editor, navigate to apps/nautilus/desktop, and set volumes visible to no
[02:07] <masinger53> What would I run for hardware detection on ubuntu (instead of kudzu)?
[02:07] <Xordan> Ah, that's what I want :P
[02:08] <nickrud> Xordan, but you mention some gentoo shite, so all bets are off :)
[02:08] <d2812> Night All.
[02:08] <__mikem> gentoo isn't (beeeep), its just for people who really like pain
[02:08] <Xordan> nickrud: If gentoo didn't have such long update times, I would have never moved to ubuntu :P
[02:09] <Paladine> any sound gurus awake yet?
[02:09] <Sgeo> Why isn't Totem-xine the default?
[02:10] <__mikem> I heard that bill gates is retiring, and the guy replacing him is more open source friendly
[02:10] <Ro1>  i herad
[02:10] <NickGarvey> __mikem: retiring.. no, stepping _back_ yes
[02:10] <NickGarvey> not down
[02:10] <nickrud> Xordan, you have just approached, periferally, why I use this debian based distro.\
[02:10] <Xordan> :)
[02:10] <sorush20> guys i keep getting this error on make install
[02:10] <Ro1> do i need anti spyware n anti virus in ubuntu?
[02:10] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16582
[02:11] <sorush20> Ro1: no that is the point of linux
[02:11] <Xordan> nickrud: Thanks for the help!
[02:11] <Ro1> nice...jsut like mac
[02:11] <Ro1> that would be sweet
[02:11] <nickrud> Xordan, np, pass it along :)
[02:11] <dli> Ro1, there are viruses on mac :(
[02:11] <Ro1> yeah...like 2 virues
[02:11] <__mikem> Thats 2 more than on linux
[02:11] <Ro1> not as nearly as many as that *other OS*
[02:11] <Paladine> and spyware *cough*mediamax*cough*
[02:12] <sorush20> Ro1: and some for linux but updated now.
[02:12] <Ro1> thats good
[02:12] <Ro1> thanks
[02:12] <Ro1> anyone use firestarter?
[02:13] <Ro1> i am, how is it
[02:13] <Paladine> yes
[02:13] <Ro1> like...is it good one
[02:13] <Paladine> well it is just a front end to iptables
[02:13] <Paladine> works fine
[02:13] <nickrud> Ro1, yes, it is a good one
[02:13] <Ro1> ok, good
[02:13] <mikere> Ro1: a more accurate statement is that macs are like linux - since linux has been a *nix since 91 whereas macs have only had a *nix (bsd) kernel for the last year or two
[02:13] <nickrud> although shorewall is supported by canonical, if you wish to learn it
[02:14] <twobitspr1te> I have a java program which dies with a traceback indicating that it can't find the SHA algorithm... what pack would that be in?
[02:14] <Usunny> Q: is there any danger in runing the cpu at full speed for a long time ? (the cooling is good)
[02:14] <Ro1> ohyeah...i have a cpu question also
[02:14] <__mikem> mikere, I thought it was longer than that
[02:14] <mikere> __mikem: I could be wrong, but thought it was around then =)
[02:14] <gdb> Macs and Linux don't share that much in common. ;-)
[02:14] <Ro1> i was looking at my cpu speed using a ubuntu program...forgot what it was called...but it said 800mhz...but i'm supposted to run at 2.4
[02:14] <roostishaw> how can i disable that animation when i minimize a window?
[02:15] <Paladine> osx has been around longer than 2 years?
[02:15] <void^> Usunny: if the temperature is fine, no
[02:15] <Ro1> yeah
[02:15] <Ro1> like 7
[02:15] <dli> Usunny, do you mean 100% cpu usage?
[02:15] <Ro1> *5 or 6
[02:15] <__mikem> linux != bsd
[02:15] <Paladine> isn't osx macbsd?
[02:15] <duckdown> Hey all, got a quick question.  I am currently using an IPV6 tunnel with FreeNET but it requires the use of a /usr/local/tspc/bin/tspc file that just has to be run in order to establish the tunnel... thing is though, is every couple of days it dies or disconnects (it goes missing from the process list also) and I manually have to run ./tspc again.  How can I automate this so whenever it crashes it will
[02:15] <Usunny> yeah like 100% or so
[02:15] <duckdown> load it automatically?
[02:15] <gdb> No, Mac OS X is not MacBSD.
[02:15] <dli> Usunny, cpu can be at idle and with full speed (clock)
[02:15] <Paladine> gdb, I was being tonguein cheek
[02:15] <__mikem> gdb OSX uses freebsd as its core, it has a layer ontop of it that hides all the "unix ugliness"
[02:16] <mikere> __mikem: yep, 91.  and yes, linux !=bsd, but both are *nix
[02:16] <nickrud> roostishaw, gconf-editor, /apps/metacity/reduced_resources
[02:16] <Usunny> sorry for that one, what i meant was the "load" 100% in this case
[02:16] <Ro1> whats a command i can put in terminal to see my cpu speed?
[02:16] <gdb> It does not use FreeBSD at its core, either.   It's Mach at its core, the utilities come from FreeBSD, the filesystem is unique to Mac OS, and it doesn't use X.
[02:16] <Usunny> don't get me wrong i want it at 100% so theres no foult :>
[02:16] <Paladine> my production box is freebsd
[02:16] <roostishaw> nickrud, thx
[02:16] <Ro1> whats a command i can put in terminal to see my cpu speed?
[02:16] <__mikem> mikere, the year was 91 when it went over? that was around when windows was becomming popular, 2 years later visual basic came out
[02:16] <Graig> looks like new ati drivers got posted today.
[02:16] <gdb> Ro1: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[02:16] <Graig> anyone try them yet?
[02:16] <Ro1> thanks
[02:16] <nickrud> roostishaw, I run slow machines, that's why I know it :)
[02:16] <avis> i just upgraded from a sound blaster live value to a audigy 2 value on my dapper box.  i am noticing that sound is not as loud as it was with the sb live value.  i dont know what its involved in upgraded an alsa card to a different alsa card.
[02:17] <mikere> __mikem: first linux kernel was in 91
[02:17] <roostishaw> nickrud, thats why i asked  :D
[02:17] <Ro1> somthing is wrong...
[02:17] <__mikem> I thought it was 92
[02:17] <__mikem> but I am probably wrong
[02:17] <Ro1> it shows i'm running at 795mhz....but i'm suppoed to be running at 2.4
[02:17] <ompaul> Mixx`, all okay?
[02:17] <dli> Ro1, gnome has a cpu speed applet also, right click on the panel and " Add to Panel"
[02:17] <gdb> Ro1: power saving?
[02:17] <Ro1> not sure
[02:17] <nickrud> eh, 14, 15 years ago, who counts?
[02:17] <__mikem> ROL, my 3ghz beats your 2.4
[02:18] <Ro1> mines amd!
[02:18] <Ro1> which rocks
[02:18] <Ro1> but yeah
[02:18] <__mikem> So is mine
[02:18] <Ro1> in a laptop!
[02:18] <dli> Ro1,  2.4 GHz what cpu?
[02:18] <twobitspr1te> I don't see any packages in apt which indicate that they provide SHA algorithm support for java... anyone know where I can find this?
[02:18] <Ro1> athlon 64 3700+ in my laptop
[02:18] <__mikem> So, my computer was designed to be a server, you can imagine how nicely it performs as a workstation
[02:18] <Ro1> in windoze it runs at normal
[02:18] <dli> Ro1, laptop scales down the speed clock at light cpu load
[02:18] <Ro1> ok
[02:18] <Paladine> Ro1, I have the same here, San Diego core
[02:18] <__mikem> dli, thanks, I didn't know that
[02:18] <Ro1> yeah
[02:19] <Graig> anyone try the new ati driver?  it's on ati's site.
[02:19] <Paladine> but it is my desktop
[02:19] <Graig> got posted today.
[02:19] <Paladine> my laptop is a 2.8 P$ HT
[02:19] <orreu> questION: WLAN0, installed with ndiswrapper, but link quality is 0. i get 'very good' in windows. whats going on??
[02:19] <Paladine> P4
[02:19] <dli> Ro1, is it faster than turion x2 ?
[02:19] <nickrud> Ro1, I can get you a tax writeoff if you donate it to a co worker (our regs won't let me use it, I solicited it)
[02:19] <Ro1> not sure dli
[02:19] <__mikem> Paladine 2.8 ghz isn't that bad, thats .2 ghz less than mine
[02:19] <Ro1> i'm 14 years old,lol
[02:19] <salah> does somebody know how I can find out which USB port my printer is connected to?
[02:19] <nickrud> Ro1, nm, then :)
[02:19] <Ro1> hehe nick
[02:19] <__mikem> Rol, I would never have guessed
[02:19] <Mixx`> ompaul yup - no updates for the router tho
[02:20] <Ackeubu_> how can i start the loggin screen frim the terminal?
[02:20] <Ro1> ha...yeah...not much kids using linux
[02:20] <dli> Ro1, wanted to get a turion x2, but merom from intel sounds better
[02:20] <Paladine> mike, yeah my laptop is nice, but it drinks juice like there is a power drout coming
[02:20] <nickrud> Ro1, unless your parents are damned understanding
[02:20] <ompaul> Mixx`, :-(
[02:20] <Paladine> battery lasts like 90 minutes
[02:20] <__mikem> Rol, Hats off to you, linux is not easy for a 14 year old, I didn't even know how to program when I was that age
[02:20] <Ro1> my parents thought throwing out a monitor would give people our information.....they know nothing about computers
[02:20] <Ro1> thanks mikem
[02:20] <Paladine> 17" widescreen + P4 architecture (as opposed to mobile technology) = dead battery
[02:21] <__mikem> Rol, sounds like you would like this site
[02:21] <Ro1> i used to use suse 64bit...but i likke ubuntu much better
[02:21] <ardchoille> Whoa! glxinfo | grep render says direct rendering: yes , but I never installed the 3d drivers
[02:21] <__mikem> www.rinkworks.com/stupid
[02:21] <nickrud> Ro1, whoa, the most interesting ubuntu user I met in the last year was under 18, don't understimate yourself
[02:21] <__mikem> nickrud I am 17
[02:21] <Ackeubu_> how do i choose what Xwindow handler i want for the startx command:
[02:21] <dli> Ackeubu_, you mean : startx -- :1
[02:22] <__mikem> I used to know, I think you put a .xinit file in your home folder and put the command for the window you want to use in it. and save it
[02:22] <Ro1> mikem=thanks for that link, lol
[02:22] <__mikem> Rol, no problem, YOu should come here more often, it can be a lot of fun.
[02:22] <Ackeubu_> dli ooh no i meant startx with gnome or startx with kde. )
[02:22] <Paladine> kensey?
[02:23] <Ro1> i see..by the way...the first time i ever used ubuntu was yesterday...i installed last night...was up all night trying to getbroadcom workign
[02:23] <Paladine> you stalking me dude?
[02:23] <__mikem> Ackeubu_ usually gdm and kdm have a sessions menu that allow you to choose them
[02:23] <Kensey> I can't get new usplash art to load.  The shipped alternatives work fine, but art I create and load myself just yields a black screen
[02:23] <dg10050> Hey, if I'm going to install Ubuntu, what size partition should I probably start with?
[02:23] <dli> Ackeubu_, no, use gdm/kdm with gnome-sessions/kde-Autostart
[02:23] <Ro1> i see..by the way...the first time i ever used ubuntu was yesterday...i installed last night...was up all night trying to getbroadcom workign
[02:23] <dg10050> I'm tri-booting. XP, Vista, Ubuntu
[02:23] <Ackeubu_> dli i kindof remember setting those values somewhere i just dont remember where.
[02:23] <Kensey> is there some way to validate that usplash art was created correctly?
[02:23] <Kensey> Paladine, just gettin some help :)
[02:23] <Ackeubu_> dli huum how do i get to the session menu from the terminal:
[02:23] <Paladine> hehe
[02:23] <Ackeubu_> dli ?
[02:23] <Paladine> kensey I never knew you were an ubu user
[02:24] <dli> Ackeubu_, login to gnome, system -> Preferences -> sessions
[02:24] <Paladine> fix my sound for me :p
[02:24] <Kensey> :P
[02:24] <__mikem> Rol, you should definitely stick with ubuntu, it has been number 1 on distrowatch's top 10 for several years now
[02:24] <__mikem> and its rock solid
[02:24] <dli> Ackeubu_, it's a gui program, you can launch it from a terminal: gnome-session-properties
[02:24] <salah> does somebody know how I can find out which USB port my printer is connected to?
[02:24] <Ro1> mikem, thats hilaiours-Customer:  "I don't use DOS.  What would happen if I deleted that 	directory?"
[02:25] <Paladine> kensey, but seriously fix my surround sound :p
[02:25] <__mikem> Rol if that customer was using win3.1 the answer is "nothing good"
[02:25] <Ro1> ha
[02:25] <Ro1> true
[02:25] <dli> Ackeubu_, if you have no gui right now, you can make a file ~/.gnome2/session
[02:25] <nickrud> rflmao, ompaul has cut to the quick
[02:25] <__mikem> funny thing, I suspect you know more about computers than I do
[02:25] <Jerr> salah: follow the cable from the printer to the pc and youll find it
[02:25] <__mikem> Do you know any programming languages
[02:26] <Ro1> me?
[02:26] <__mikem> yep
[02:26] <Healot> I know how to program the TV :-)
[02:26] <Paladine> heya kalo, welcome back
[02:26] <salah> Jerr, ... I meant like in /dev/usb/lp0 or something?
[02:26] <__mikem> Rol yes I meant you
[02:26] <Jerr> oh
[02:26] <Ro1> not really...bascically learning a bit of everything....i know BASIC, some python, some c, and html (that aint really language)
[02:26] <dg10050> What would a good size partition be for Ubuntu?
[02:26] <orreu> 5GB
[02:26] <orreu> minimal
[02:26] <dli> dg10050, the larger the better
[02:26] <orreu> 10GB is good
[02:27] <__mikem> Rol, knowing C at 14 on ANY level is quite impressive
[02:27] <dg10050> Could I survive on 15 gb for a while?
[02:27] <Ro1> yeah...pretty intese language
[02:27] <__mikem> Rol, if you keep at it, it will become second nature to you
[02:27] <d_hollin> need help woth repos need a list of them
[02:27] <dli> dg10050, more than enough for the system itself
[02:27] <Ro1> i can concentrate more that its summer...all i'm doing this summer is usual..copmuter stuff...suring n' bodyboarding...chillin
[02:27] <dg10050> heh, Im 13 and I know some c++. Beat that.
[02:27] <dg10050> :P
[02:27] <__mikem> Rol also, if you feel really adventerous, give assembly language a try. IT really isn't that bad
[02:27] <snoops> would you want to know c so well it's second nature? Gosh.
[02:27] <calamari> hi
[02:27] <Ro1> thats nice dg10050
[02:28] <dg10050> I'm just kidding
[02:28] <Ro1> ah ok
[02:28] <dli> dg10050, I'm 31, too old to learn c++
[02:28] <DShepherd> kdefreak: huh?? you didnt!
[02:28] <dg10050> I barely know any
[02:28] <Ro1> ha
[02:28] <kdefreak> lol
[02:28] <eyegore> does anyone have a clue adding a terminal laucher to the right click menu for the desktop?
[02:28] <__mikem> Rol, if you are comfortable with pointer arythmatic, you can do assembly language.
[02:28] <d_hollin> need help!!! need list of repos
[02:28] <__mikem> !easysource
[02:28] <Ro1> "what verison of windows do you have?" "double glazed!!!!"
[02:28] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:29] <__mikem> lol I love that one
[02:29] <DShepherd> kdefreak: the aliens have overtaken your body....
[02:29] <Healot> d_hollin: follow the link
[02:29] <d_hollin> tell me about repos
[02:29] <DShepherd> kdefreak: walk away from the 'light'
[02:29] <dg10050> C++ confuses me to no end... ?_?
[02:29] <Ro1> same here
[02:29] <nalioth> !repos > d_hollin
[02:29] <ani_max> eyegore: are you talking about ubuntu. right-click and 'Add to Panel'
[02:29] <__mikem> dg10050 just remember you don't HAVE TO use the stl, and it all makes sence
[02:30] <acid-trip> where do i find info on lamp again?
[02:30] <Ro1> i gave up on languages lately....just trying to get a better basis of linux
[02:30] <kdefreak> ;)
[02:30] <nickrud> gotta part, just so my part message is seen :0
[02:30] <__mikem> Rol, you look at python and shell scripts then
[02:30] <benplaut_live> is there any way to start up the old text installer from the regular install cd? this partitioner is so limited i can't do anything...
[02:30] <Ro1>   I was calling to sign up with a new DSL provider.  When the guy asked what operating system I was using, I said, "Linux."  I was put on hold for five minutes, and then a supervisor came back and told me, "You can't use Linux to connect to the Internet.  It's a hacker tool, anyway."  I almost fell out of my chair.
[02:30] <Ro1> yeah
[02:30] <nalioth> nickrud: nice
[02:30] <Healot> f***?
[02:30] <dg10050> lol
[02:30] <__mikem> Rol, I love that one also, but you should avoid pasting large blocks of text in here
[02:30] <Healot> they actually told you that Ro1?
[02:30] <Ackeubu_> dli thanks do you know how to have ubuntu bootup in the terminal instead of to the logginscreen?
[02:30] <nickrud> nalioth, eh, it's a quote
[02:30] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16583, could anyone tell me what is wron with thi sconfig log
[02:31] <Ro1> mikem, thats the best site
[02:31] <eyegore> When I right click on the desktop, I what the option to open a terminal
[02:31] <Ro1> no, its a site
[02:31] <acid-trip> Ro1, so did you end up getting dsl from them?
[02:31] <eyegore> it is not on the right click menu
[02:31] <dli> Ro1, file a complaint
[02:31] <dg10050> I'm finally doing a native Ubuntu install. Been using VMWare for a while.
[02:31] <__mikem> I would report them
[02:31] <sirmixadigi> ne one use 3ddesktop?
[02:32] <ani_max> eyegore: right-click on the top bar. there 'Add to Panel' will come
[02:32] <__mikem> 3ddesktop = waste of time
[02:32] <Healot> dg10050: congratulated yourself yet?
[02:32] <ardchoille> __mikem: lol
[02:32] <dli> sirmixadigi, you mean xgl? /j #ubuntu-xgl
[02:32] <sirmixadigi> whats that? just curious
[02:32] <dg10050> Should I use Partition Magic or Gparted to resize a NTFS partition?
[02:32] <sirmixadigi> whys that i mean
[02:32] <nickrud> nalioth, I  have freaking high hopes, but ompaul brings me back to earht
[02:32] <Healot> why 3ddesktop is still around?
[02:32] <pibe86> hello
[02:32] <skavenge> my isp refuses to tech support linux or routers of any kind heh
[02:32] <dli> dg10050, parted can do it
[02:32] <dg10050> Will it mess anything up?
[02:32] <pibe86> how can enter to irssi in mode text???
[02:32] <nickrud> Healot, cuz as long as someone will maintain a deb, it will be around.
[02:32] <DShepherd> Healot: cause someone still cares about it..
[02:33] <ardchoille> sirmixadigi: 3ddesktop is just a resource wasting toy, IMHO
[02:33] <__mikem> skavenge because most modems are winmodems which will not work with linux on their own
[02:33] <snoops> well fair enough skavenge.. it costs more to get linux gurus on tech support.. because you've gotta be slightly insane to be in tech support in the first place
[02:33] <sirmixadigi> are there ne other programs you recommend for desktop management?
[02:33] <dli> skavenge, no need, just get the username/passwd, most routers can do pppoe by itself
[02:33] <pppoe_dude> is there a command-line config tool instead of 'vino-preferences'?
[02:33] <dg10050> So, gparted works fine with NTFS?
[02:33] <ardchoille> sirmixadigi: yes, the workspace switcher in gnome
[02:33] <__mikem> dg10050 NOTHING works well with ntfs, not even windows but thats also not saying much
[02:33] <skavenge> oh i know i could care less but i find it amusing, i just told them to hook the cable up and dont touch the machines ;)
[02:33] <dli> dg10050, yes, gparted is still parted
[02:33] <pibe86> how can enter to irssi in mode text???
[02:34] <kdefreak> pibe86: in a terminal type irssi
[02:34] <ardchoille> pibe86: type irssi
[02:34] <sirmixadigi> ok...cool...thanx....yea...i just installed it today...actually i havent even looked to see what of my recourses its using.
[02:34] <dli> __mikem, parted can resize ntfs, not sure about moving
[02:34] <sirmixadigi> didnt event think about it
[02:34] <sirmixadigi> duh
[02:34] <ani_max> hi. anyone know how to stop ubuntu from checking fat32 drives while booting. i got about 7 partitions and it takes a hell of a time
[02:34] <dg10050> I've just heard bad things about Linux and NTFS...
[02:35] <__mikem> dg10050 linux reading/writing ntfs is unstable
[02:35] <dli> dg10050, better, delete all ntfs partitions, because ntfs format is not open
[02:35] <__mikem> dli, he should make a backup first though
[02:35] <snoops> xp, 2000, 2003 work absolutely fine on ntfs __mikem.. blind hatrid never got anyone anywhere
[02:35] <skavenge> reading ntfs is fine, writing is supposedly sketchy though i used it in breezy and never had it break
[02:35] <MTecknology> I'm having trouble installing vmware server - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16584
[02:35] <Ro1> mikem, i'm gonna be reading that site al night...its great
[02:36] <dg10050> Whatever, I'll just use Partition Magic. I've had it work fine before.
[02:36] <__mikem> snoops, I have plenty of reasons to hate windows. Namely that IT BSOD'S FOR NO REASON AND YET NOONE IN MICROSOFT WILL DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT
[02:36] <__mikem> Rol thanks
[02:36] <snoops> *rolls eyes*
[02:36] <pppoe_dude> how cani configure vino from the command line?
[02:37] <dg10050> Bye, gonna go install Ubuntu now.
[02:37] <dg10050> :D
[02:37] <ardchoille> dg10050: :)
[02:37] <__mikem> Happy installing
[02:37] <skavenge> i have about 3 windows cds here with no cases - which is where they keys are - so they are completely useless. now thats lame.
[02:37] <nickrud> dg10050, welcome to a nice place, oveall
[02:37] <dg10050> Hope my ATI card works fine
[02:37] <__mikem> skavenge, just get hacked keys for them, if you bought them lagitimately, you can always bring that up in court
[02:38] <nickrud> ati, my god, what as mess
[02:38] <__mikem> the only thing ati is good for is target practice
[02:38] <DShepherd> gnomefreak: welcome back to the the dark side :-)
[02:38] <skavenge> __mikem ; finding a keygen can be just as bad of a headache ..
[02:38] <ardchoille> DShepherd: lol
[02:38] <dli> Ackeubu_, bootup without gdm login? " update-rc.d -f gdm remove "
[02:38] <skavenge> anyway dont need to worry about that now ;)
[02:39] <Healot> __mikem: BSOD is a long time ago... I haven't received blue screen since Windows 2000
[02:39] <snoops> __mikem the license is for the keys, not the discs the software comes on
[02:39] <__mikem> I recieved one in winxp on several occasions
[02:39] <__mikem> snoops if you have the disks, then you had the keys at one point
[02:40] <ardchoille> __mikem: people are gonna believe what theyw ant, don't waste your time. Just be glad you're using a real OS :)
[02:40] <snoops> could have bought them off of someone who just made copies and didn't provide with you with the keys
[02:40] <__mikem> ardchoille :)
[02:40] <skavenge> my last xp install was running for two weeks, no installs no internet, i reboot and it cant find hal.dll anymore heh, go figure .. never got it restored either ;p
[02:40] <Healot> Windows is a real OS... imho, just because bunch of noobs crashing here and there, doesn't mean it bad
[02:40] <__mikem> snoops why are you testifying against yourself
[02:41] <__mikem> brb, its hot in here
[02:41] <nickrud> Healot, true statement. But, not relevant here :)
[02:41] <K-Rich> Well I updated to Dapper and now a bunch of stuff is missing including oo.org
[02:41] <Healot> you Gnu/Linux freaks, hohoho :-)
[02:41] <ardchoille>  /ignore Healot
[02:42] <snoops> __mikem I'm not.. the original owner has the keys.. he sold the original cd's without the keys, but kept backups of the original cds for himself.. just an example
[02:42] <dli> K-Rich, install them again :)
[02:42] <Healot> nah, I make money with both OS...
[02:42] <nickrud> K-Rich, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. That is supposed to bring you up to dte
[02:42] <K-Rich> dli: why would it have removed them to begin with ?
[02:42] <nickrud> *date
[02:42] <__mikem> snoops where is the logic in that? brb need some food
[02:42] <K-Rich> nickrud: will try that now
[02:42] <twobitspr1te> man... I think I'm just going to switch back to debian :(
[02:42] <dli> K-Rich, complain to ubuntu-developpers, but you still have to reinstall them anyway
[02:43] <ardchoille> twobitspr1te: what's wrong?
[02:43] <nickrud> K-Rich, assuming all else is correct
[02:43] <K-Rich> dli: yeah... maybe i should complain heh...
[02:43] <twobitspr1te> ardchoille, it seems like most of the packages that I use are either out of date, broken or simply don't exist...
[02:43] <snoops> it doesn't matter if the person has the cds or not.. it's all in the licenses, and that's from the cd keys..just read the eula heh
[02:43] <nickrud> gnomefreak, choose a nick :)
[02:43] <K-Rich> nickrud: dunno, i had to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop before i did the upgrade
[02:43] <ardchoille> twobitspr1te: problems with your sources.list
[02:44] <kdefreak> nickrud:  sorry it was a inside joke with someone
[02:44] <nickrud> K-Rich, that is exactly what you should have done;
[02:44] <acid-trip> is there a way to go from badger to the new one through apt?
[02:44] <K-Rich> nickrud: so now install it again ?
[02:44] <jolmash> hallo, please help on VNC configuration
[02:44] <nickrud> kdefreak, you are a jokser, we know that
[02:44] <twobitspr1te> ardchoille, what should I have in there? Shouldn't the standard repos be sufficient?
[02:44] <Jerr> hmm, anyone know of how I can get images from spca5xx to show up normally like on /dev/video0 so that any webcam app can read it?
[02:44] <kdefreak> ;)
[02:45] <Kensey> So does anybody here know anything about usplash not liking custom art?
[02:45] <twobitspr1te> ardchoille, i.e. for some reason I can't get java to work right...
[02:45] <jolmash> I don't know what server I need to install, vnc4server, tightVNC?
[02:45] <seamoon> Anyone knows what the ssh errormessage "no default project" means?
[02:45] <acid-trip> nm
[02:45] <acid-trip> i figured it out
[02:45] <acid-trip> lol
[02:45] <dli> acid-trip, change your sources.list to dapper, and " apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade "
[02:45] <ardchoille> twobitspr1te: yes, I have the standard official repos and haven't had a problem
[02:45] <eyegore> when I right click on the desktop, the menu that pops up is missing the terminal launcher, is there a way to add that? I am not talking about adding it to the task bar, I already did that.
[02:45] <nickrud> K-Rich, hm, if your update/upgrade didn't go well ...
[02:45] <__mikem> ok back
[02:45] <ardchoille> twobitspr1te: post your sources.list on pastebin.com and lemme look at it
[02:45] <acid-trip> dli, i opened update manager and it asked me if i wanted to
[02:45] <acid-trip> lol
[02:46] <ardchoille> eyegore: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[02:46] <Jerr> jolmash: its installed already. From gnome go to system -> prefrences -> remote desktop
[02:46] <Jerr> !vnc
[02:46] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[02:46] <K-Rich> nickrud: i will try adding it again as soon as k3b finishes reinstlling.... decided to grab it incase i need to backup /home and /etc
[02:46] <jolmash> ubotu: but, I have xfrce
[02:46] <nickrud> eyegore, install nautilus-terminal-here
[02:46] <Jerr> !freenx
[02:46] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:47] <seamoon> !ssh
[02:47] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:47] <nickrud> eyegore, erm, see just above, I crapped out
[02:47] <DShepherd> sudo aptitude search nautilus
[02:47] <__mikem> ssh = how to get hacked
[02:47] <DShepherd> oop
[02:47] <DShepherd> s
[02:48] <bimberi> DShepherd: no sudo needed for searches :)
[02:48] <dli> __mikem, you can disable passwd login for ssh :)
[02:48] <seamoon> I can't ssh to a server because when i log in I get the message "no default project" and is then prompted for password again. Anyone know why?
[02:48] <nickrud> DShepherd, yeah, that gets the right package, I saw that after I wrote.
[02:48] <jolmash> ubotu: xfce. I don't have monitor in the pc I want to install vnc, is there a way to get remote desktop active, via console?
[02:48] <K-Rich> nickrud: doing the 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' seems to be working.... thanks for the tip
[02:49] <DShepherd> bimberi: its a habit :-)
[02:49] <nickrud> K-Rich, np, I depend on reliable peoples work
[02:49] <bimberi> DShepherd: i know, i'm trying to cut down myself :P
[02:49] <ardchoille> why search? I gave him the correct package name
[02:49] <seamoon> I can't ssh to a server because when i log in I get the message "no default project" and is then prompted for password again. Anyone know why?
[02:50] <Paladine> those rivatv folks are nice
[02:50] <nickrud> ardchoille, cutting the difference there; you gave exact, DShepherd showed how to find
[02:50] <docko> on the download page, there is written You will need at least 192MB of RAM to install from this CD. is it necessary to have 192mb ram also to use that CD as live CD?
[02:50] <ardchoille> nickrud: ah, cool
[02:50] <DShepherd> nickrud: I did?
[02:50] <ardchoille> seamoon: we heard you a minute and a half ago :)
[02:50] <Kensey> !usplash
[02:50] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:50] <nickrud> DShepherd, sure, aptitude search
[02:50] <jolmash> I have Ubuntu server, which doesn't come with any desktop, I've installed xfce
[02:51] <farous> what is the command line tool to change the default keyboard. (used to swith between installed languages)?
[02:51] <Angel_Dex> i need a pro's help with repos!
[02:51] <Angel_Dex> =o
[02:51] <Jerr> jolmash: do you have physical access to the machine?
[02:52] <bimberi> jolmash: the server cd includes server related packages, such as a LAMP setup, at the expense of a GUI
[02:52] <__mikem> ubotu tell Angel_Dex about easysource
[02:52] <twobitspr1te> is package "sun-java5-bin" the official java?
[02:52] <dli> docko, I suppose it would be too slow to run on low memory :)
[02:52] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, i'm a pro user; do yo u need a pro designer?
[02:52] <DShepherd> nickrud: ahh... hmmm can you believe that that was an honest mistake.. I was searching for nautilus....typed it in the wrong terminal :-)
[02:52] <bimberi> jolmash: nm me, i've realised you weren't asking a question there :/
[02:52] <Angel_Dex> __mikem grr rawr I need help on mixing them i wish to put new Gxine on breezy for dapper hates me
[02:52] <jolmash> Jerr: yes, I have physical access to it, but It haven't any monitor installed
[02:52] <__mikem> I am not a pro linux user yet, I still consider myself just an aprentice level
[02:52] <nickrud> DShepherd, yes, but your timing was exquiste
[02:52] <DShepherd> nickrud: :-) so i see
[02:53] <farous> what is the command line tool to change the default keyboard. (used to swith between installed languages)?
[02:53] <docko> dli, i just need to test hardware, then i'll use ubuntu server, just need it to boot from live cd on 128MB RAM
[02:53] <Angel_Dex> im running breezy with gxines 4.4 i want 5.1 and the problem is if i update the libs it needs will anything go out of wack>>?
[02:53] <Ro1> i'm a total noob, was running suse 64bit for 5 months, then switched to MUCH better ubuntu yesterday
[02:53] <jolmash> bimberi: I have installed the ubuntu server as I need, I have installed several vnc packages, but I don't know how to configure it
[02:53] <dli> docko, you don't need to test X-windows, I suppose/
[02:53] <Healot> Ro1: I guess SuSE is Kool
[02:53] <twobitspr1te> can someone please tell me how to install the official java JRE?
[02:53] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, you're probably better off upgrading to dapper if that's reasonable for you
[02:53] <Healot> !java
[02:53] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:53] <Jerr> you could always try moving a monitor over there, messing with the settings (install gnome, go to remote desktop, turn it on and remove asking for confirmation), then taking monitor back to its place
[02:53] <farous> ok an easier quest is there a command line tool to check for running daemons?
[02:54] <bimberi> jolmash: which vnc packages?  most of them are started with a 'vncserver' command
[02:54] <jolmash> bimberi: ok, my question is: How can I configure a VNC server in Ubuntu?
[02:54] <Angel_Dex> nickrud no way dapper hates my guts
[02:54] <jolmash> bimberi: vnc4server, tightvnc
[02:54] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, ah, bug issues I take it?
[02:54] <Angel_Dex> nickrud many upon many including it stoped booting all together after a week
[02:54] <Jerr> jolmash: thats what I did, but using livecd install instead
[02:54] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, so unless your bugs are ones I know of, I'll just shut up
[02:54] <DShepherd> jolmash: System - prefs- remote desktop?
[02:54] <bimberi> jolmash: generally the method is to connect in text mode (eg. via ssh) and start a vncserver with that command.  Then connect via a vnc client
[02:55] <Jerr> DShepherd: he doesn't have gnome
[02:55] <swaj> jolmash, click the "System" menu up top on Gnome and then navigate to "Preferences > Remote Desktop"
[02:55] <Jerr> DShepherd: or a monitor
[02:55] <DShepherd> Jerr: ooooh..
[02:55] <Angel_Dex> nickrud To many bugs plus i jsut dont like dapper all i really want is the new gxine cuz its alot more stable then 4.4
[02:55] <varsendaggar> ak for some reason i can't get breezy working i just installd it and it gets  to about where the gdm should start up and it freezez
[02:55] <jolmash> swaj: thanks, but I don't have Gnome
[02:55] <jolmash> swaj: I have xfce
[02:56] <DShepherd> jolmash: sudo aptitude purge 'what DShepherd just said'
[02:56] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, I've been happy with dapper, but I have generic hardware.
[02:56] <docko> dli, so what is the quickest way to test a computer for hardware compatibility with ubuntu?
[02:56] <swaj> jolmash, ah, xubuntu?
[02:56] <Angel_Dex> nickrud Hum well is there anything else that depends on the libs gxine does?
[02:56] <bimberi> jolmash: hm, those packages might use a different command - perhaps try vnc4server or tightvncserver
[02:57] <Zambezi> Only 662 online. I used to be about 800-900 online!
[02:57] <Tailsfan> Will DD have Data CD Burning Support
[02:57] <swaj> docko, download the ubuntu installation CD, burn it, and boot from it.  It's a livecd that will let you see exactly how ubuntu will run on your hardware
[02:57] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, totem-xine off the top of my head; I no longer have a breezy chroot I can work from and check taht
[02:57] <jolmash> swaj: actually, Ubuntu sever with xfce
[02:57] <dli> docko, hardware is mostly a kernel thing, so, you can test with any linux livecd, try gentoo livecd, which is like 40MB in size, without X, so 128MB is more than enough
[02:57] <varsendaggar> Zambezi, lotsa people are upgrading right now
[02:57] <Angel_Dex> nickrud I do not have totem Gxine and if i could id uinstall totem all together
[02:57] <docko> dli, cool, thank you
[02:58] <Zambezi> varsendaggar, Upgrading too?
[02:58] <varsendaggar> yeah
[02:58] <zorplex> Would using a gtk them stop metacity keybindings from working?
[02:58] <__mikem> well, I am out of here bye
[02:58] <zorplex> B/c I'm trying to bind gedit and the system monitor and its a no go
[02:58] <Flawless> does ubuntu even support iso-8859-1 locales?
[02:58] <Jerr> so how can I get spca5xx video to go out as something camorama or something can read
[02:59] <Jerr> spcagui works
[02:59] <_nano_> Hi, I'm thinking of upgrading my 386 kernel to a 686 one. Could anyone advise me of any possible risks?
[02:59] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, erh. gxine is not totem-xine. And to be truthful, I am not happy with what video I have. So, maybe in a few days I'll have an opinion
[02:59] <dli> Flawless, of course
[02:59] <Flawless> dli: how?
[02:59] <Zambezi> varsendaggar, Upgrading to Edgy?
[02:59] <skavenge> is there brightness/contrast settings built into gnome? or a package i can install?
[02:59] <varsendaggar> naw just dapper  Zambezi
[02:59] <Flawless> dli: I've changed /etc/environment, after editing /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local to generate en_DK.iso8859-1
[02:59] <Jerr> could I possible have like cron take a screenshot of that area on that workspace every minute or so?
[03:00] <Flawless> dli: then I've run dpkg-reconfigure locales, which generates this new locale
[03:00] <nickrud> skavenge, xgamma does it all for you
[03:00] <dli> Flawless, better, choose your language in gdm before logging in, you may need packages for your language first
[03:00] <Flawless> dli: but I don't get accented characters at all!
[03:00] <Tailsfan> Will Dapper Drake have Data CD Burning Support without dling a package
[03:00] <Angel_Dex> nickrud i know of this im saying i hate totem and totem-xine i prefer Gxine and xine and i wish to update to the dapper versions but i heard repo play is not liked so im wondering if the lib depends are gonna screw anything else up if i bootleg upgradethem
[03:00] <Flawless> dli: I use KDE
[03:00] <Zambezi> varsendaggar, But they are late. Dapperrelease was a month ago. ;-)
[03:00] <dli> Flawless, kdm then
[03:00] <nemik> so i'm going for a second try here. I simply cannot get my sound to work. i have a via 8235 built-in card on my dapper desktop.
[03:00] <Flawless> dli: But I'd like to use English
[03:00] <nemik> it worked fine in breezy though.
[03:00] <skavenge> nickrud; is there a gui for setting that stuff at all?
[03:00] <ardchoille> Tailsfan: iirc, nautilus does data cd burning in dapper out-of-the-box
[03:01] <Flawless> dli: Is there an option for iso8859-1 en_US or en_DK?
[03:01] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, I like dapper. It has some real improvements over breezy. But, video? it's always a crapshoot. I'm looking into the best for me
[03:01] <ardchoille> Angel_Dex: I have always had good experiences with Xine and MPlayer both
[03:01] <dli> Flawless, in kconsole, you may select your fonts
[03:01] <Flawless> dli: yeah, that doesn't help me
[03:01] <nickrud> skavenge, I got gammapage off the net, which helped me identify the proper settings for the gamma in xorg.conf
[03:01] <Angel_Dex> nickrud Not what im saying TT_TT would updating gxine from dapper repos screw my breezy over
[03:01] <Flawless> dli: well, it helps me in konsole of course
[03:02] <StyXman> hi all. I'm trying to fiddle with the initrd imge. as far as I know, it's a compressed filesystem image, so if I decompress it I should be able to mount it with the loop option, right?
[03:02] <Flawless> dli: but the rest of kde still doesn't work then
[03:02] <Zambezi> Does anyone know what -v (verbose) means?
[03:02] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, almost certainly
[03:02] <Angel_Dex> nickrud *whines* but how?
[03:02] <Flawless> dli: I mean, the file selectors in all KDE (and Gnome) programs will expect UTF8, while my filesystem names are all iso8859-1
[03:02] <dli> Flawless, you want it more global, you have to select your language in kdm
[03:02] <ardchoille> Zambezi: it prints out in the term what the command is doing while it does it
[03:02] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, I haven't done it, but I promise, using dapper sources under breezy will screw you in the long run
[03:02] <Flawless> dli: I'll try logging in again. Didn't see an option for that though
[03:03] <Angel_Dex> nickrud i think ill try it in a live CD session tho would that tel lme much?
[03:03] <twobitspr1te> can someone please help me get java working?
[03:03] <skavenge> i have one brightness setting on ac power with my laptop, and quite a bit darker when i unplug sucking battery or not i'd like to make it so its always the brightness that it has on ac power ...
[03:03] <Geoffrey2> has anyone here used clamav?
[03:03] <Zambezi> ardchoille, Thanks. I'll do that. I can't get an application to work, so this might be helpful.
[03:03] <twobitspr1te> for some reason java programs can't find the SHA algorithm (which is supposed to be standard java)...
[03:04] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, yes, it'll tell you a truthful thing: this is the best support that the ubuntu devs have to offer
[03:04] <twobitspr1te> I have installed "sun-java5-bin" but "java -version" shows something other than suns java...
[03:04] <wasabi> twobitspr1te: update-alternatives
[03:04] <Angel_Dex> nickrud oks
[03:04] <ardchoille> Zambezi: if yu can't get an app to work, always a good idea to try running it from a terminal and see if there is any error output
[03:04] <Angel_Dex> nickrud what kinda bugs or tests should i look out or do while in the live session?
[03:04] <twobitspr1te> wasabi: please-explain ?
[03:04] <wasabi> twobitspr1te: run that command
[03:05] <jasonm> anyone in here familiar with running XGL?
[03:05] <wasabi> Me.
[03:05] <twobitspr1te> wasabi, it gives me usage information...? what is it supposed to do?
[03:05] <wasabi> twobitspr1te: Switch between different implementations of a command.
[03:05] <wasabi> Read the man page.
[03:05] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, none that I know of, since I am just a side line kind of guy; but the best advice I have is that if you decide to install, use the alternate cd, not the desktop one.
[03:06] <w33v3r> Guys, Rob Levin is lying to us: http://ecpa.cpa.state.tx.us/coa/servlet/cpa.app.coa.CoaGetTp?Pg=tpid&Search_Nm=Peer-Directed%20Projects%20Center%20&Button=search&Search_ID=32004514421
[03:06] <Flawless> dli: Ok, so I selected "english" (without the "(UTF-8)" postfix). That option is only there because I edited those files, btw.
[03:06] <namikata> hello
[03:06] <Flawless> dli: and now no local chars work
[03:06] <Flawless> dli: all accents are broken
[03:06] <Jeruvy> can you repackage the alternative iso after making changes to it?
[03:06] <twobitspr1te> wasabi, sorry for being an idiot, but can you tell me how to use it to get suns java to work?
[03:06] <Zambezi> ardchoille, That's what I'm trying, but I can't make it work. I don't understand Linux yet.
[03:06] <nickrud> w33v3r, what kind of lie is that: I have the exact link for my work
[03:07] <dli> Flawless, then, use UTF-8 system wide :)
[03:07] <Flawless> dli: funny :(
[03:07] <ardchoille> Zambezi: then you're in the perfect channel to learn about it :)
[03:07] <vanberge> umm, i just synced my ipod with banshee, and now it wont turn on?
[03:07] <skavenge> whoo fixed my brightness issue
[03:07] <Geoffrey2> twobitspr1te, in terminal, type the following ..... sudo update-alternatives --config java
[03:07] <wasabi> twobitspr1te: No, but somebody else might. I'm not going to help anyone install Sun's Java on principal. ;)
[03:07] <wasabi> There ya go.
[03:07] <nickrud> w33v3r, ?
[03:08] <Flawless> dli: I like ubuntu quite a lot, but failing to support even the simplest deviation from utf8 is reason enough for me to go back to debian. I'm on a network with several machines, some of which are already ubuntu
[03:08] <w33v3r> nickrud: He doesn't live in a trailer, he's living off Freenode donations and welfare.
[03:08] <namikata> hi, anyone knows if thers is any way of telling alsa wich /dev/dsp to use? (like dsp or dsp1)
[03:08] <namikata> thanks
[03:08] <Flawless> dli: I really wish I could make this locale work :-/
[03:08] <dli> Flawless, no point to switch from debian to ubuntu :(
[03:08] <tich> how do i alter the icon placement on the desktop? whenever it places an icon it drops it underneath the top panel.
[03:08] <Flawless> dli: what do you mean?
[03:08] <nickrud> w33v3r, yes  and your point is? Has he mis represented anything?
[03:09] <dli> Flawless, debian is better, unless you are a total n00b
[03:09] <Zambezi> ardchoille, I use pastebin. Is there a faster than http://pastebin.com ?
[03:09] <Flawless> dli: not really, no. I've been using debian for years
[03:09] <w33v3r> nickrud: The money doesn't go to Freenode.
[03:09] <Flawless> dli: And I really like the fact that ubuntu has more "polish"
[03:09] <dli> Zambezi, pastebin.ca
[03:09] <nickrud> w33v3r, he is free node.
[03:09] <wasabi> Flawless: What do you mean about the locales?
[03:09] <Flawless> dli: there aren't so many small things that are "off"
[03:09] <namikata> hi, anyone knows if thers is any way of telling alsa wich /dev/dsp to use? (like dsp or dsp1)
[03:09] <dli> Flawless, I can install my debian in chinese
[03:09] <Zambezi> dli, Thanks.
[03:09] <wasabi> File systems are in UTF-8 by default... but it's not like the OS lacks non UTF-8 support.
[03:09] <Flawless> wasabi: I can't use iso-8859-1 locales at all! Only UTF-8 locales work
[03:09] <fugenhel> I'm a total noob, but wouldn't ubuntu be better for a purely desktop environment?
[03:09] <pavan> @tich: look in nautilus properties
[03:09] <wasabi> Use where?
[03:09] <Flawless> dli: sure, and I can install debian in en_DK
[03:10] <Flawless> dli: which I can't with ubuntu :(
[03:10] <Flawless> wasabi: Everywhere!
[03:10] <Flawless> wasabi: All X programs have problems with accented chars
[03:10] <nickrud> w33v3r, if you ever try to run a non profit, then you may understand the freaking troubling issues
[03:10] <wasabi> Flawless: Eh? I don't follow at all. Define everywhere.
[03:10] <fugenhel> jeg kan ikke tale dansk
[03:10] <wasabi> Flawless: You mean GTK?
[03:10] <twobitspr1te> Geoffrey2, ahh... thanks, that did it
[03:10] <wasabi> Gtk has been UTF-8 since Gtk2. On Debian too.
[03:10] <Flawless> wasabi: ALL X PROGRAMS :). All of GTK, KDE, and plain xlib progs
[03:10] <Flawless> wasabi: the real ttys actually work
[03:10] <dli> Flawless, reinstall debian, 20 minutes, if you are experienced
[03:10] <Flawless> dli: I know
[03:11] <Flawless> dli: I just really want to give this thing a chance
[03:11] <ardchoille> Zambezi: yes:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[03:11] <ubuntuman> i cant get my USB-headset to work..anyone able to help?
[03:11] <wasabi> Flawless: X programs need to know what local each file you are attempting to read is in.
[03:11] <wasabi> YOu're going to have to be a little more explicite. ;)
[03:11] <salah> tips to how to write my own printer driver?
[03:11] <Flawless> wasabi: of course. And I set my locale to en_DK.iso-8859-1 (which I of course made sure is generated)
[03:11] <w33v3r> nickrud: Freenode will be gone in a year because of this.
[03:11] <Flawless> wasabi: now if I do that, my dead keys work as if I was using "nodeadkeys"
[03:11] <Flawless> wasabi: that is, they suddenly can't be used to accent the next char
[03:12] <NickGarvey> does the "free" in freenode stand for freedom?
[03:12] <pavan> 1
[03:12] <wasabi> Flawless: I'd file a bug. Have you?
[03:12] <NickGarvey> as in software?
[03:12] <wasabi> Flawless: All that code is basically sahred with Debian.
[03:12] <ardchoille> w33v3r: yeah and people will never need more than 640k of memory
[03:12] <Flawless> wasabi: In straight debian it Just Works
[03:12] <Flawless> wasabi: And I know because I've just come from that :)
[03:12] <Flawless> wasabi: Which is why I find it amazing that such a simple thing is 100% broken :)
[03:13] <tich> pavan, there isn't any option for icon placement. do you know of anywhere else?
[03:13] <w33v3r> ardchoille: You don't understand, Rob is ruined. People know everything about him now. All his personal information, credit card numbers, etc, have been revealed.
[03:13] <Flawless> wasabi: should I file a bug with kubuntu or just ubuntu?
[03:13] <nickrud> w33v3r, no, it won't. I've worked for non profits since the late 80's; I've seen rob's blogs about where the money will go; it's not wrong, it's legal, and it's ethical. Get a lifew
[03:13] <pavan> @tich Do you mean the text below the icon?
[03:14] <wasabi> Flawless: Just ubuntu.
[03:14] <w33v3r> It won't be revealed? It's already public.
[03:14] <Flawless> wasabi: ok
[03:14] <nickrud> w33v3r, if it wasn't public, I would not have been able to evaluate. Get a life
[03:15] <ardchoille> hahahahaha
[03:15] <tich> pavan, no. when i download a file it places it on my desktop automatically but it always drops it under my top panel.
[03:15] <wasabi> Flawless: And I hate to say it, because you've probably all ready heard it. Why can't you use UTF-8?
[03:15] <wasabi> It's designed to solve these problems.
[03:15] <Flawless> wasabi: Fair enough, I suppose I have to answer that
[03:15] <ubuntuman> i cant get my USB-headset to work..anyone able to help?
[03:15] <wasabi> I can understanding requiring certain files to be !UTF8
[03:15] <wasabi> for exchange
[03:15] <Flawless> wasabi: 1) Several of my programs can't work with it, zsh being the worst case
[03:16] <Angel_Dex> My friend cant boot ither 5.10 nor 6.06 of ubuntu
[03:16] <wasabi> At this time the developent versions of zsh support utf-8 (your can simply install zsh from cvs. With this feature you can use zsh with any language.
[03:16] <Flawless> wasabi: 2) I have about 1TB of files I need to rename, all at once (this is not hard) BUT: I need to convert every other machine on the network to UTF-8 instantly as well!
[03:16] <Angel_Dex> why is this? he says he gets a cannot find file error of some sort
[03:16] <wasabi> Flawless: files don't HAVE to be in UTF8
[03:16] <AJR11> guys can anyone tell me if its possible to burn the ubuntu live cd image to a dvd?
[03:16] <Zambezi> ardchoille, Here it is: http://pastebin.ca/72646
[03:16] <Flawless> wasabi: 3) Several of my programs can't... etc
[03:16] <wasabi> Either do file systems.
[03:16] <crimsun> !info zsh-beta
[03:16] <ubotu> zsh-beta: A shell with lots of features (dev tree). In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.3.0-dev-2+20060113-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 2063 kB, installed size 6344 kB
[03:17] <Flawless> wasabi: yup, know about that one
[03:17] <Flawless> has anyone seen a deb of the zsh beta?
[03:17] <wasabi> You should be able to specify the encoding for a NFS mount, for instance.
[03:17] <Jeruvy> ajr: should be ok
[03:17] <Flawless> oh, it IS the deb? :)
[03:17] <AJR11> Jeruvy how?
[03:17] <jasonm> anyone in here familiar with running XGL? i have some problems wtiht he setup
[03:17] <ardchoille> Zambezi: what is that?!?!?
[03:17] <Zambezi> ardchoille, Of course xxx is changed on my computer to the real ip/user/pass.
[03:17] <Flawless> wasabi: well that's cool, at least (nfs)
[03:17] <NickGarvey> !tell jasonm about xgl
[03:17] <Zambezi> ardchoille, Just help me. :-)
[03:17] <fiveiron> ugh... so how do i set up a dir for glslideshow with this gnome-screensaver crap...
[03:18] <Flawless> wasabi: should I set the encoding that the server has, or that the client expects (for nfs)
[03:18] <ardchoille> Zambezi: I can't help you if I have no idea what that is
[03:18] <ardchoille> Zambezi: What is the problem?
[03:18] <Zambezi> ardchoille, It extracts files via the network to my XBOX. It won't even begin the extration.
[03:19] <AJR11> anyone how to burn cd image to dvd?
[03:19] <Flawless> wasabi: ok, so zsh-beta works quite nicely
[03:19] <pavan> @tich: try using from Desktop: right click, and say align/arrange files on desktop
[03:19] <wasabi> Hmm. I thought NFS had those options.
[03:19] <Flawless> wasabi: oh man, I really need this to work
[03:19] <ardchoille> Zambezi: never heard of it
[03:20] <Flawless> wait, GTK programs has an environment var that can specify the filename encoding
[03:20] <wasabi> Ahh.
[03:20] <Flawless> maybe I could just set this to iso88591
[03:20] <wasabi> We'll, the goal is of ourse to convert.
[03:20] <wasabi> ANd never worry about it again.
[03:20] <Flawless> Sure
[03:20] <DonL> Hello
[03:20] <Flawless> wasabi: but it's quite a pain when you standing on the other side :)
[03:20] <Zambezi> ardchoille, It not common, but extract-iso doesn't work. Many experience problems so I'm trying with this instead. I really need it too work.
[03:21] <Flawless> wasabi: and dli even got me trying to use gdm to restart kde. It feels ooooh so wrong ;)
[03:21] <wasabi> Well, you can put the problem off as long as you want. !UTF-8 sucks. ;)
[03:21] <Flawless> wasabi: yeah, yeah :)
[03:21] <ardchoille> Zambezi: an ISO is a finalised file system, you don't extract it, you mount it and then copy files from it
[03:22] <Zambezi> ardchoille, This mounts and copies it.
[03:22] <skavenge> anyone monkeyed with crystalcursors? i ran the cli config which is supposed to change the cursors system-wide in X, restarted and everything its still using the default cursors under system > preferences > mouse?
[03:22] <Mixx`> does anyone have a suggestion (besides VNC) to remote control an existing x session from another PC?  The problem is I'm remote controlling a 1600x1200 session from a 1280x960 screen
[03:22] <ardchoille> Zambezi: I've never used it so I cannot help with it
[03:23] <Zambezi> ardchoille, I'm feeling desperate. I need it to work!
[03:23] <dli> Flawless, gdm can start kde
[03:23] <Flawless> dli: yes, I just did that. It just feels... dirty
[03:23] <Flawless> :)
[03:23] <Zambezi> ardchoille, But you can probably guess what I should right? Then I report to you and we make it work.
[03:24] <Flawless> wasabi: so, nfs doesn't allow any recoding
[03:24] <Flawless> wasabi: what to do... converting everything is a big task :(
[03:24] <ardchoille> Zambezi: find someone else to help you please
[03:25] <nickrud> ardchoille, welcome :)
[03:25] <protocol1> how do I configure Xorg?
[03:25] <ardchoille> nickrud: ?
[03:25] <dli> protocol1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:25] <kalosaurusrex> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:25] <Zambezi> Can anyone help me with an application in the terminal that won't work? Its installed properly, but I don't use the right command. Please help.
[03:25] <nickrud> protocol1, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[03:25] <wasabi> Flawless: Yeah. Not sure. Looking around.
[03:25] <protocol1> with gedit that is?
[03:25] <nickrud> ardchoille, we gotta know our limits :)
[03:26] <kalosaurusrex> nick what's the -phigh do?
[03:26] <ardchoille> nickrud: indeed
[03:26] <Flawless> wasabi: at least convmv can convert all the filenames for me. But that'll screw up everybody else
[03:26] <farous> can grub handle more than 3 primary partitions on a harddisk?
[03:26] <stpere> Zambezi, what's the application?
[03:26] <protocol1> nickrud, I was talking about the file
[03:26] <Flawless> wasabi: hmm.. looks like there's an extremely acidic apple I might have to bite in the near future
[03:26] <dli> farous, you can have at most 4 primary partitions
[03:26] <Zambezi> stpere, xbiso
[03:26] <protocol1> with like an editor
[03:26] <wasabi> Flawless: If the non UTF 8 code in Ubuntu is rotting, it's bound to be doing hte same in Debian.
[03:27] <nickrud> protocol1, that command I gave will reset X to defaults; we can work from there
[03:27] <kalosaurusrex> gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf I believe.
[03:27] <Flawless> wasabi: well, it works fine in debian, what can I say :)
[03:27] <protocol1> ahh thanks
[03:27] <farous> dli i have 3 and it is not allowing me to create the 4th. i actually need 4 is there a special way i need to set it. (newbie here in terms of partitioning
[03:27] <wasabi> All that stuff comes from the same upstream... heck, Ubuntu just takes Debian's packages anyways.
[03:27] <Flawless> wasabi: well, not quite it seems :)
[03:28] <virus> buenas
[03:28] <nickrud> wasabi, except when it doesn't, that's ehre it gets fun
[03:28] <virus> algun espaol?
[03:28] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, hi
[03:28] <nickrud> erm where
[03:28] <dli> farous, no, 4 primary, or 3 primary + 1 extended (with logic partitions inside)
[03:28] <Usunny> !uft8
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about uft8
[03:28] <^richiefrich> ajayc  u get the email
[03:28] <Angel_Dex> nickrud i did it under  alive session no problems
[03:28] <Usunny> argh
[03:28] <existance> can anyone suggest a good IDE to use for programming besides eclipse?
[03:28] <Usunny> !utf8
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about utf8
[03:29] <dli> farous, to creat the 4th primary, you have to delete your logic partitions
[03:29] <eyegore> anjunta?
[03:29] <Angel_Dex> !xine
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about xine
[03:29] <farous> dli all of them?
[03:29] <Angel_Dex> !gxine
[03:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about gxine
[03:29] <Angel_Dex> bastad
[03:29] <eyegore> existance: anjunta
[03:29] <dli> farous, yes, and the extended one (holder)
[03:29] <jeeves_Moss> all:  does any one here know of another DNS server software package for Ubuntu like Bind9 that is more visual?
[03:29] <nickrud> !info gxine
[03:29] <ubotu> gxine: the xine video player, GTK+/Gnome user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-0ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 301 kB, installed size 804 kB
[03:29] <eyegore> *anjuta
[03:29] <nickrud> !info xine-ui
[03:29] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[03:30] <dli> farous, linux doesn't care about primary or logic,
[03:30] <farous> dli: thanx i think that is not possible then. for home is a logical part and can not risk loosing that even if i have backup
[03:30] <Flawless> !utf-8
[03:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about utf-8
[03:30] <Flawless> hm..
[03:30] <nickrud> utf-8 is default
[03:30] <Angel_Dex> Id really like to run 0.5.1 on breezy
[03:30] <qmx> hi
[03:30] <farous> dli: thank you for your help
[03:30] <eyegore> existance: it is in the standard repositories
[03:31] <Angel_Dex> think anyone has made a package for breezy on it? >.>
[03:31] <ardchoille> Angel_Dex: isn't gxine just a gui front-end to xine?
[03:31] <qmx> how can i make ubuntu packages from svn sources? i need to tar it up
[03:31] <VR_> has anyone received CDs from shipit yet?
[03:31] <eyegore> I myself use the text editor vim
[03:31] <Angel_Dex> ardchoille Yush but 0.5.1 ish much sturdyer as i can see then 0.4.4
[03:31] <ardchoille> VR_: I'm still waiting, ut I found they usually take 4 to 6 weeks
[03:31] <dli> qmx, use .deb , ubuntu is not based on source
[03:31] <eyegore> then run the command line compile
[03:32] <flavio> xxx
[03:32] <VR_> ardchoille: yeah, i guess it'll be another week or so
[03:32] <existance> eyegore, yea, but I'm getting tired of making makefiles and such
[03:32] <VR_> i can't wait
[03:32] <VR_> i love the smell of new ubuntu CDs
[03:32] <ardchoille> VR_: me too
[03:32] <AJR11> New ubuntu CD's in the mornin
[03:32] <eyegore> existance: the debugging is a little more accurate
[03:32] <VR_> yes
[03:32] <NickGarvey> AJR11: ooo mine should be here any day..
[03:32] <existance> eyegore, command-line?
[03:32] <nickrud> VR_, yeah, I hope someone gets a shipit soon ...
[03:32] <DonL> me too. Somehow the self burned ones don't quite match
[03:32] <AJR11> NickGarvey you will enjoy
[03:33] <AJR11> right im off to sleep its 2.32am here so so tired
[03:33] <eyegore> I can paste the files easier that way
[03:33] <NickGarvey> AJR11: night ;)
[03:33] <AJR11> NickGarvey Nite m8
[03:33] <wlach> are there any logs/diagnostics I should attach when reporting a system lockup bug, besides the last few entries in /var/syslog?
[03:33] <existance> eyegore, I can understand why it would be.  I've been working with SOAP lately, and it's error/debugging is completely worthless
[03:33] <VR_> the self-burned ones are always corrupted or they don't work as well on old machines
[03:33] <harry> is there a macromedia Software Packages for Ubuntu. example like Flash???
[03:33] <NickGarvey> !flash > harry
[03:33] <eyegore> that is whi I like CLI
[03:33] <ardchoille> VR_: you can log into your shipit account and see the status of your order. I just looked at mine and it says they are on the way
[03:33] <nickrud> DonL, yes that can, just do the verify stuff: http:wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[03:34] <skavenge> man i wish i could get crystal cursors working
[03:34] <Geoffrey2> has anyone ever used Clam AV?
[03:34] <VR_> ardchoille: yeah, that has been the case with me since may 24th. it says, "sent to shipping company"
[03:34] <DonL> VR_: Problem is, all the ones I've requested don't come. I got the first batch (Warty) and everything I've asked for since doesn't materialize.
[03:34] <lastnode> how can i enable spellchecking in OOo2 on dapper?
[03:34] <harry> NickGarvey: yes
[03:34] <harry> NickGarvey: Macromedia Flash
[03:34] <VR_> DonL: i ordered breezy and got those. never ordered warty
[03:34] <farous> dli: one last question any idea why having to logical partiton with two linux dist caused lots of file sys error. seems to be unstable and nodes for files seem to be broken more often?
[03:34] <lastnode> the spell checker wont find even basic mistakes
[03:34] <crogue5> does the alternate CD allow you to choose the packages to you want on install?
[03:35] <crogue5> like the desktop one installs what it wants...
[03:35] <NickGarvey> harry: did you get the PM?
[03:35] <nickrud> skavenge, heh. A really obscure thing, and a well written support page would be welcome :)
[03:35] <Angel_Dex> nickrud wow ><! i needs to upgrade 65 things to install
[03:35] <dli> farous, nothing todo with primary or not
[03:35] <harry> NickGarvey: From Ubotu??? yes
[03:35] <DonL> VR_: Yeah. Don't know what happened. I'm on broadband, so it's no biggy, but it's nice to have the factory ones to give out.
[03:35] <ardchoille> VR_: I ordered and received Breezy CD's. I have also ordered CD's for Dapper and am waiting for them. I plan to build 10 new computers, install Breezy and donate them to friends :)
[03:36] <ardchoille> oops, I meant install Dapper
[03:36] <cef> I've got a machine with 2 nics in it, and if eth0 is plugged in at boot, everything works as expected. if eth0 isn't plugged in at boot, then eth1 gets recognised as eth2 (HUH?) and eth1 doesn't exist. any ideas?
[03:36] <qmx> dli: hey, go slow
[03:36] <skavenge> nickrud ; yeah something tells me gnome's mouse settings are overriding it but google is hopeless on the subject, seems easy in kde but i see no docs for gnome ;/ oh well
[03:36] <VR_> ardchoille: why dont you install dapper on those?
[03:36] <farous> dli: that is what i was getting at. so what might cause that. i checked that each partition start at the start of a cyl and to the end of another cyl so no unused space
[03:36] <VR_> hehe
[03:36] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, that's not an unusual situation, depending on how log it's been since you did an update. Ubuntu/Debian is why we use this for updates
[03:36] <qmx> dli: someone need to build your debs
[03:36] <qmx> theres no docs about it
[03:36] <DonL> ardchoille: I'd like to get a bunch of old computers, put Ubuntu on them and donate them to schools. I wonder if they'd accept them?
[03:36] <Angel_Dex> nickrud no its just cuz im on breezy and im installing dapper things
[03:36] <VR_> when is that ubuntu book coming out?
[03:37] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, I will from now until you go dapper, cross my fingers at you :)
[03:37] <Usunny> ubuntu-book ?
[03:37] <jeeves_Moss> VR_:  there was a pre-release on the net somewhere.
[03:37] <snoops> I'd say they definitely would DonL.. nice idea.. I commend ya :)
[03:37] <VR_> ah i see
[03:37] <Angel_Dex> nickrud I escared TT_TT i maybe no not do it ><
[03:37] <DonL> snoops: Thanks. I would hope so
[03:37] <ardchoille> DonL: They most likely will, that's what I do every month.. I get computers that people no longer want, install the latest Ubuntu, then donate them. I have provided 117 computers that way in the past year
[03:37] <harry> NickGarvey: I mean the an application that will create flash animations
[03:37] <klees> what's the best p2p linux program out there??
[03:37] <farous> dli: i even checked the harddisk for defects and it came up clean
[03:38] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, heh. See you when.
[03:38] <klees> for mp3s
[03:38] <nalioth> ardchoille: and you are blessed for your work
[03:38] <snoops> DonL best bet is to call up a few schools and see what their it department is like
[03:38] <cArNaGe`> azuerus
[03:38] <DonL> ardchoille: Wow! Well done!
[03:38] <VR_> here it is > http://www.phptr.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=0132435942&rl=1
[03:38] <Angel_Dex> nickrud maybe make a beater box to try this out on?
[03:38] <NickGarvey> harry: oh boy.. um good luck, no idea
[03:38] <skavenge> klees; i like limewire myself
[03:38] <klees> azuerus = torrent???
[03:38] <ardchoille> nalioth: :)
[03:38] <ardchoille> DonL: Thanks
[03:38] <nickrud> Angel_Dex, sounds like a plan. And ardchoille had a plan :)
[03:38] <cArNaGe`> yes  its a torrent
[03:38] <Flawless> wasabi: thanks for the help
[03:39] <Flawless> wasabi: I'm going to bed now - did you discover any nfs tricks?
[03:39] <klees> besides limewire any other good p2p?
[03:39] <nickrud> my nickserv password is suquamish. grab it, who cares?
[03:39] <farous> klees: there are a lot check at help.ubuntu.com or packages.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <nickrud> klees, amule, frostwire
[03:39] <ardchoille> nickrud: you live in NW USA?
[03:40] <nickrud> ardchoille, currently not, but I'm from seattle area
[03:40] <klees> im looking for suggestions.....  thx nickrud
[03:40] <snoops> this is more a question to pose to google klees.. linux philosophy is more about free as in freedom, not free as in allowing to pirate copyrighted material ;P
[03:40] <farous> klees: heared nicotine is ok
[03:40] <ardchoille> nickrud: hehe, small world.. I live in Seattle right now.. Northgate area :)
[03:40] <DonL> ardchoille: I'm just north of you across the border and left into the ocean a bit
[03:41] <ardchoille> DonL: :)
[03:41] <nickrud> ardchoille, yah, I lived around greenlake back then
[03:41] <kditty> ive got a question... if i did a few installs trying to repair ubuntu, and it installed on an internal drive other than the one im using right now(hda) and the drive is HDD... would it be ok to format, or just delete all the files to get rid of the 2gigs of files that are on that drive? or would that mess up my ubuntu and grub loader?
[03:42] <wasabi> Flawless: no sorry
[03:42] <ardchoille> OK, it's been fun. But, I gotta go for now. Be back soon :)
[03:42] <DonL> Gotta go help my wife with dinner. Good chatting to you!
[03:42] <singo> okay
[03:42] <Flawless> wasabi: no worry, I'll probably just ... well I don't know what exactly, but I probably HAVE to do this at some point :)
[03:43] <cef> Problem: 2 nics. If first nic is plugged in at boot, second nic becomes eth1 (all good). If first nic isn't plugged in at boot, second nic becomes eth2. Anyone know how to stop this from happening?
[03:43] <Flawless> !ifrename
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ifrename
[03:43] <Flawless> cef: well, google ifrename :)
[03:44] <Flawless> cef: it keeps your network names consistent using MAC addresses
[03:44] <Angel_Dex> how do i boot without hotplug
[03:44] <var> Recovering drug addict and right-wing radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh has been detained at Palm Beach International Airport upon his return from the Dominican Republic. WFOR (cbs4.com) is reporting that the detainment is for possible illegal possession of presecription drugs, including Viagra.
[03:44] <cef> Flawless: based on mac addresses? ah.. that could be an issue. I have to change the mac address on these devices on occasion
[03:45] <Ro1> whatgood computer rooms are there on this server
[03:45] <Flawless> cef: well, look into it. I think it might work if you have a static IP on just the one (or even if you just cycle between a fe)
[03:45] <Angel_Dex> how do i boot without hotplug
[03:45] <nickrud> var, tell me it's true
[03:45] <Flawless> few*
[03:45] <nickrud> var, on off-topic
[03:45] <snoops> in what area Ro1?
[03:45] <ToHellWithGA> how can i get apache2 to auto-start?
[03:45] <cef> Flawless: looking into it
[03:45] <Ro1> computers
[03:45] <eyegore> I always knew Rush Limbaugh wass a reactionary limp dick
[03:46] <snoops> ..that's every room on freenode Ro1
[03:46] <NickGarvey> ..
[03:46] <Ro1> ah , but i found one for marijuana
[03:46] <Ro1> lol
[03:46] <NickGarvey> eyegore: careful.. what you say...
[03:46] <DaveyJ> whats a good video editor?
[03:46] <eyegore> GM medical benifits paid out 17 million for ED
[03:46] <Angel_Dex> anyone?
[03:47] <pppoe_dude> is it safe to "lock" the version of "linux-image" "linux-restricted-modules" and "update-manager" on a breezy install?
[03:47] <witless> hello.  i'm trying to install a python package, and i get these errors
[03:47] <witless> :  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16589
[03:47] <witless> can anyone tell what i'm missing?
[03:47] <Angel_Dex> !hotplug
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about hotplug
[03:48] <Angel_Dex> !info hotplug
[03:48] <ubotu> Package hotplug does not exist in dapper
[03:48] <witless> (i'm installing from cheeseshop with easy_install btw)
[03:48] <eyegore> does that mean GM is a bunch of atrophied male genetalia
[03:48] <var> nickrud: its not joke
[03:48] <var> no*
[03:48] <cef> Flawless: aha! you can assign the networks by driver name. yay!
[03:49] <nickrud> var, ?
[03:49] <someothernick> Is there a wiki for getting a scanner to work with ubuntu
[03:49] <Flawless> cef: yep, there are tricks available
[03:49] <ToHellWithGA> DaveyJ: virtualdub is alright
[03:49] <CokeNCode> how do i install noip2 on ubuntu
[03:49] <CokeNCode> i thought i could use apt-get
[03:50] <pppoe_dude> oh and why does apt sometimes tell you "the following packages have been kept back" but synaptic wont?
[03:50] <DaveyJ> for linux
[03:50] <DaveyJ> =P
[03:51] <wasabi> pppoe_dude: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:51] <cef> Flawless: ahh.. cool.. all done. thanks
[03:51] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, no i just want to make sure it never installs them by accident
[03:51] <Flawless> cef: np
[03:51] <wasabi> synaptic uses dist-upgrade by default, which allows apt to consider removing packages to fulfil dependencies.
[03:52] <pppoe_dude> i.e. can i guarantee that everytime i do an apt-get upgrade these packages will be kept
[03:52] <wasabi> apt-get upgrade doesn't allow removing, which can prevent some new packages from being installed.
[03:52] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, oh i see... but linux-image doesnt require package removal
[03:52] <tich> how do i alter the icon placement on the desktop? my icons are currently being placed (unfunctionally) under my top panel.
[03:52] <pppoe_dude> and it was kept back
[03:53] <wasabi> It was kept back because something it depended on couldn't be installed.
[03:53] <wasabi> Because THAT conflicted with something that could be removed.
[03:53] <pppoe_dude> i see
[03:53] <pppoe_dude> well... its safe to just keep the old kernel right?
[03:53] <wasabi> Sure.
[03:53] <wasabi> Check the reason for the upgrade.
[03:53] <wasabi> security upgrade, etc.
[03:53] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, i also locked the versions in 'synaptic'... would that also lock them in apt-get?
[03:53] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, how do i do that?
[03:53] <wasabi> Yes.
[03:54] <wasabi> synaptic should lsit the change log.
[03:54] <nikki> hello
[03:54] <wasabi> hm... apt-listchanges used to be around too, for the console.
[03:54] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, ok thanks
[03:54] <wasabi> I'm not sure if it's still functional though.
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> wasabi, ya according to the change log they['re all 'low urgency' updates that i probably dont need
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> n e way, thank
[03:56] <pppoe_dude> s
[03:57] <pppoe_dude> what about 'update-manager'... do i need to update that? (im on breezy - and its also been kept back)
[03:57] <wasabi> Depends. YOu'll have to examine the reasons.
[03:57] <Jake> Hey, will anyone please help me with installer crash?
[03:58] <AussieGuus> quick q, i burnt 2 cds, one desktop one alternative, cant remember which disc is which and the label is the same when they're mounted, the desktop/livecd is the one with casper on it right?
[03:58] <wasabi> AussieGuus: correct.
[03:58] <AussieGuus> thanx
[03:58] <pppoe_dude> k i think breezy is stable enough like this....
[03:59] <skavenge> how can i find where a package has been installed to? anyway?
[03:59] <Flawless> skavenge: dpkg -L <packagename>
[03:59] <Flawless> skavenge: to find out what program files you have from a package, do dpkg -L <package> | grep /bin/
[04:00] <twitch> i just got dapper not even five minutes ago
[04:00] <Jake> I tried to install 6.06 from the live cd, but it crashed at python... Is this a known bug?
[04:00] <Flawless> Jake: no, it's not supposed to do that :)
[04:00] <twitch> im having problems installing a coupel things
[04:00] <Flawless> Jake: please file a bug report
[04:00] <snoops> such as twitch?
[04:00] <Jake> Fine...
[04:00] <Flawless> Jake: it will ensure that this problem is solved soon
[04:01] <skavenge> Flawless ; ty
[04:01] <twitch> well, when i tried to install realplayer it flat out refused, said that it need xlibs but that was uninstallable
[04:01] <acid-trip> whats the uname options to find out what distro i have and that again
[04:01] <snoops> got universal repositories added and such twitch?
[04:01] <crimsun> twitch: you can install xlibs [it's an empty transitional package]  from breezy-security.
[04:01] <maddy> -a
[04:02] <crimsun> twitch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fx%2Fxorg%2Fxlibs_6.8.2-77.1_all.deb&md5sum=5494fd607f744a9c9441fd22b9cb0042&arch=all&type=security
[04:02] <twitch> when i downloaded the .deb package for xlibs, almost all of the dependencies were broken, the one thing that apt-get tried to stop :S
[04:02] <Flawless> acid-trip: uname will give you the kernel. cat /etc/debian_version will give you the debian version (which is less useful in ubuntu)
[04:03] <Jake> Flawless: Thanks
[04:03] <Flawless> Jake: np
[04:03] <acid-trip> wb ro1
[04:03] <Ro1> thanks...hello to you too
[04:03] <Ro1> is mikem here still?
[04:04] <acid-trip> i dunno
[04:04] <Ro1> ok
[04:04] <twitch> hmm that time xlibs installed just fine, thanks for that btw, ill try realplayer again
[04:05] <twitch> this may sound random but i just gotta say i love the sense of community that comes with being a linux user
[04:05] <witless> can anyone tell why i can't get this python package installed on dapper:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16589  <-- error messages
[04:05] <snoops> nah, it's great heh.. feels like the old amiga days
[04:05] <Ro1> linux users rock (all of us)
[04:06] <maddy> how do i run .run file?
[04:06] <twitch> realplayer just installed fine, thanks alot to everyone...  i think that dapper and i will get along just fine :P
[04:06] <Flawless> maddy: usually with /bin/sh.
[04:06] <NickGarvey> maddy: chmod +x file.run
[04:06] <NickGarvey> maddy: ./file.run
[04:06] <Flippy209> ic56 you around?
[04:06] <Flawless> maddy: use file -Ls foo.run to get an idea what type it is
[04:06] <snoops> got an nvidia graphics card twitch?
[04:06] <kditty> how do i format a hard disk?
[04:06] <Ro1> kditty-install
[04:07] <Ro1> oh wait, nvrmnd
[04:07] <nickrud> snoops, heh. pre amiga, the atari days
[04:07] <kditty> i have two hard disks and both have linux folders on them
[04:07] <snoops> I was too young then nickrud :)
[04:07] <twitch> everyone i just found this video and i think every Linux user should see it. makes you proud
[04:07] <twitch> (must have flash player)
[04:08] <Ro1> whers it at twitch?
[04:08] <nickrud> snoops, the attitude is the same
[04:08] <twitch> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3182711082396344549&q=linux
[04:08] <Ro1> i'm going there now twitch
[04:08] <twitch> enjoy
[04:08] <twitch> i sure did :)
[04:08] <snoops> isn't that rionic twitch? flash support on linux is the reason I don't use it as a desktop fulltime :(
[04:08] <snoops> ironic*
[04:08] <Flawless> snoops: what's wrong with flash support?
[04:08] <twitch> snoops, yes whats wrong?
[04:08] <Flawless> snoops: you on amd64?
[04:09] <snoops> yes on amd64.. flash 7 for 32bit is a joke
[04:09] <snoops> I'm a fulltime web developer.. we need to use the latest flash at work and such
[04:09] <bimberi> witless: installed build-essential?  if not, do that and retry
[04:09] <NickGarvey> I run 64 bit suse and flash is good
[04:09] <NickGarvey> snoops: ah that sucks
[04:09] <twitch> snoops, many websites are taking off WMP and switching to flash now, good for them i say, the internet is finally slipping out of M$'s pocket
[04:10] <Flawless> WMP is a horrible hack
[04:10] <nickrud> maybe macromedia will come thru on 9, I hear the claim they wil
[04:10] <snoops> I hate adobe for flash..
[04:10] <Flawless> but flash is another horrible hack :(
[04:10] <snoops> they refuse to release the damn api
[04:10] <NickGarvey> nickrud: yeah, I heard they will too
[04:10] <nickrud> flash is is flash, a nice thing for what it is.
[04:10] <Ro1> dang, firefox is being retarted for the plugin
[04:11] <twitch> Ro1, yeah it does that sometimes
[04:11] <snoops> flash 7 also has av sync issues and is just plain terrible to use.. issues with getting sound to work and everything
[04:11] <Ro1> it's "twitch"n
[04:11] <twitch> Ro1, :P
[04:11] <marc> How can I get my web cam to work with instant msging
[04:11] <Geoffrey2> big problem with Flash, obviously, is that soo many sites are using Flash 8....and obviously on Linux that's just not happening
[04:11] <twitch> marc, what client?
[04:12] <Mewshi> how do i FORCE a package to install?
[04:12] <witless> bimberi: thanks, trying it now
[04:12] <twitch> anyone watch that video?
[04:12] <nickrud> Mewshi, in what context?
[04:13] <nickrud> Mewshi, there are various force options, but they are the last resort
[04:13] <virtualchaos> if i started a background process from an ssh shell, any way for me to foreground it on the physical computer?
[04:13] <Ro1> i'm giving up on watching it.
[04:13] <virtualchaos> jobs says there are none
[04:13] <Ro1> dumb plugin
[04:13] <snoops> because they'd be mad to write the same thing in flash 7 because of the bugs Geoffrey2.. just blame adobe for not releasing the specs for the player.. because they give it away for free anyway, and make money from selling the software to create it.. hell at least adobe released the pdf spec
[04:13] <twitch> Ro1, having problems with Flash?
[04:13] <DShepherd> what does the syntax for the /etc/sudoers file for nopassword again?
[04:14] <KBlair> In the Ubuntu store, I wonder how many Ubuntu Classic Thongs accually sell. :P
[04:14] <snoops> twitch if you feel adventurous you should have about xgl and compiz.. I've been using it on dapper for about 3 weeks now, and just so happy with it
[04:14] <MTecknology> I'm installing Fedora Core 5 on VMWare Server... it froze trying to install pam - what do I do?
[04:14] <snoops> have a read about*..
[04:14] <Geoffrey2> snoops, that's the part that confuses me...Adobe provides a full linux implementation of Adobe Reader....so what would be the holdup on doing the same for the latest version of Flash?
[04:15] <nickrud> snoops, and what will you do, when ubuntu switches to aiglx :)
[04:15] <twitch> snoops, xgl... is that the "UI mod"
[04:15] <twitch> for lack of a better term?
[04:15] <marc> twitch, i am using gaim with msn or yahoo.
[04:15] <nickrud> xgl was fun, but
[04:15] <snoops> they are switching to it nickrud?
[04:15] <nickrud> snoops, yes
[04:15] <marc> twitch, id be willing to change messaging programs, though I do like the spell check feature of gaim
[04:16] <Mewshi> from the command line
[04:16] <twitch> marc, does your cam have any software included?
[04:16] <snoops> it's an open gl accellorated server layer for xorg twitch.. compiz is the eye candy using opengl to do fun things with windows and whatnot
[04:16] <nickrud> snoops, erm, as best as an outsider who got checked by an insider can say
[04:16] <twitch> snoops, im checking it out now
[04:16] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'll ask one last time for tonight....has anyone here used Clam AV?
[04:16] <snoops> I'm pretty unfamiliar with aiglx.. does it use compiz on top?
[04:17] <twitch> snoops, where can i download xgl?
[04:17] <witless> bimberi: that did it - thank you
[04:17] <bimberi> witless: np :)
[04:17] <snoops> you'd want a guide.. it's in alpha still twitch.. so expect crashes
[04:17] <nickrud> bimberi, do you have any insights on aiglx :)
[04:18] <sic> ubuntu dapper drake x86 on amd, cannot get a file listing on DVDs, even in command line.  It can read burned DVDs but not discs like quake 4 or movie dvds (which play just fine in mplayer) I am at a loss, any suggestions?
[04:18] <bimberi> nickrud: nope, sorry - in fact i'd not seen the term until just now :)
[04:19] <CrazyDoode> hmm
[04:19] <NickGarvey> twitch: eek that commercial gave me chills
[04:19] <nickrud> bimberi, it's the 3d open gl pretty stuff, in edgy supposedly. Something to watch
[04:19] <marc> twitch, yes, but the softwear is for windows only.  Its a logitec camera
[04:19] <bimberi> nickrud: ah, kk, thanks
[04:19] <twitch> NickGarvey, but its kinda... i dunno... makes me feel good to be a Linuser
[04:20] <nickrud> bimberi, I just pulled you out of the hat; no offence
[04:20] <twitch> but it is DEFINITLEY a little eerie yes haha
[04:20] <nickrud> *meant
[04:20] <bimberi> nickrud: oh none taken whatsoever :)
[04:20] <Ro1> wow, even though i'm a noob..i jsut managed to instlal the flash plugin for firefox thgouthg terminal,lol
[04:20] <NickGarvey> twitch: they should show it on tv
[04:21] <NickGarvey> Ro1: :) terminal isn't all evil
[04:21] <paradizelost> hey all, how do i enable LFS in apache on dapper?
[04:21] <NickGarvey> twitch: OOOH I get it! linux is 9 years old... ooo
[04:22] <nickrud> NickGarvey, 13 years, easy
[04:22] <twitch> well i think my IQ just dropped a little.... Paris Hilton... god forbid... has made a music video
[04:22] <twitch> her voice has been through so many machines, she cant even claim ownership
[04:22] <nickrud> even with nntp variablity taken into account
[04:22] <marc> tiwtch, hello?
[04:22] <NickGarvey> nickrud: IBM is wrong then!  "The Linux operating system is being embraced by companies everywhere. click the image above to learn more about the business benefits, explosive growth, and colorful history of this 9-year-old wonder."
[04:23] <sic> no takers on my DVD issue? pretty simple problem I guess...put a DVD, like Quake 4 for instance, the little DVD icon pops up on the desktop, you dbl click it and a blank window opens, no files viewable...put a burned dvd in and it sees all the files no prob...suggestion?
[04:23] <Ro1> for some reason i cant hear the google video
[04:23] <marc> twitch, hello?  softwear only for windows, its a logitec quickcam communicate stx
[04:23] <nickrud> NickGarvey, look for linus's inital post; it's out there on the net, I think it was late 91? 92?
[04:24] <NickGarvey> nickrud: lemme check
[04:24] <NickGarvey> 1991
[04:24] <NickGarvey> nickrud:  very odd
[04:24] <NickGarvey> nickrud: ah! 1.0 is 9 years old
[04:24] <nickrud> heh, ibm's thing was written by a drone
[04:24] <Ro1> anyone know why i aint got sound in the linux google video
[04:24] <nickrud> oh, 1.0,
[04:25] <paradizelost> hey, can anyone help me enable LFS in apache on dapper?
[04:25] <acid-trip> Ro1, you got win32codecs?
[04:25] <Ro1> not sure
[04:25] <acid-trip> can u see the video?
[04:25] <Ro1> yeah
[04:26] <twitch> marc, sorry about that, im not sure what to do with that cam.. could always try wine?
[04:26] <Jerr> because flash in linux kinda sucks
[04:26] <acid-trip> ok the video is a wmv
[04:26] <thrice`> I don't understand why gnome 2.14.2 was included as an update to dapper
[04:26] <acid-trip> you got mplayer?
[04:26] <xenex> How do I refresh my icons? My trash icon is currently the blue trash icon when it is supposed to be the orange one.
[04:26] <Ro1> nope
[04:26] <Ro1> i got some other palyers
[04:26] <Geoffrey2> yep, I keep forgetting...Linux users don't believe in Anti-Virus software.....
[04:26] <acid-trip> install mplayer
[04:26] <Jerr> google video is in flash
[04:26] <acid-trip> then download the video and watch it
[04:26] <Ro1> ok
[04:26] <Madpilot> Geoffrey2, we just don't see the point it in :)
[04:27] <Flawless[off] > Geoffrey2: if you can explain why it is needed, I'll personally use it righta way :)
[04:27] <Flawless[off] > and yes, I really AM going to bed.. :)
[04:27] <snoops> I don't use any anti-virus software for my windows machines either Geoffrey2.. All about experience really
[04:27] <bjv> i have linux-image-k7 installed, so when a new 386 kernel is added, i get the k7 opt too.
[04:27] <nickrud> life calls, brb
[04:27] <bjv> but
[04:28] <sic> can anyone give me a hand with a DVD drive problem?
[04:28] <bjv> but when i get a new kernel and k7 with apt-get dist-upgrade, im left with a whole pile of other old kernels! ~_~
[04:28] <Ro1> i'm gonna attempt to get mplayer now
[04:28] <bjv> what am i supposed to do? id like to get rid of them _cleanly
[04:28] <bjv> but they are eating up all of my hd space. :\
[04:28] <Geoffrey2> snoops, well, then the Linux community had a decision to make....do they REALLY want Linux to become a mainstream operating system or not?
[04:28] <snoops> kernels don't take up much space bjv
[04:29] <Flawless[off] > bjv: dpkg -l | grep linux-image, choose which you want to delete. dpkg -P <those>
[04:29] <hav0k> no printers show up when i go to add a printer, under the printer driver step, has anyone else had this problem?
[04:29] <userundefine> bjv, you can uninstall them in Synaptic cleanly.
[04:29] <Flawless[off] > Geoffrey2: what are you on about?
[04:29] <snoops> Geoffrey2 I think half do, and the other half secretly want to keep it for the people in the know for fear of it becoming too dumbed down :)
[04:29] <zorplex> Is there some hidden setting that could disable metacity key bindings
[04:29] <acid-trip> night
[04:30] <Ro1> peace
[04:30] <bjv> will a -P purge remove the .deb from my apt cache?
[04:30] <bjv> each of those takes up another 20 precious megs. :
[04:30] <sic> thanks
[04:30] <Flawless[off] > bjv: no, but apt-get clean will do that
[04:30] <acid-trip> Ro1, did that link help you out at all?
[04:30] <bjv> ok
[04:30] <Flawless[off] > bjv: that will clean your _entire_ cache, btw
[04:30] <bjv> oh.,i dont want to do that at all.
[04:31] <bjv> (small disk on a dialup connection)
[04:31] <Flawless[off] > bjv: slow connection?
[04:31] <bjv> yes
[04:31] <Flawless[off] > then remove the packages manually from /var/cache/apt
[04:31] <fiveiron> tremulous is awesome!
[04:31] <Geoffrey2> Flawless[off] , what I'm on about is that the "average" computer user isn't anywhere near as savvy and knowledable about computer security as most in here are......and you're going to have to take them into consideration....just telling them to be smarter about security won't cut it
[04:31] <Flawless[off] > Geoffrey2: I agree - but installing anti-virus doesn't help on windows either
[04:32] <Flawless[off] > Geoffrey2: things like root-user separation and default-secure installations WILL help.
[04:32] <zorplex> uh oes, only 1 Gig left
[04:33] <omirix> I just switched to a different Linux. Where can I find the beatiful Ubuntu Human theme + Icons?
[04:33] <Jake> Is there a way to install from the live cd using terminal?
[04:33] <userundefine> Geoffrey2, OK, but what does that have to do with viruses?  In Linux, even to wipe out your /home, you need to give -x permissions to a virus.  The "average" user can't do that and can't get hit with arbitrary viruses
[04:33] <Ro1> i jsut downloaed the win32codecs....i still dont have sound on google video
[04:33] <userundefine> Ro1, google video uses flash.  Has nothing to do with win32
[04:34] <Ro1> oh...any idea why the sound aint working
[04:34] <omirix> I just switched to a different Linux. Where can I find the beatiful Ubuntu Human theme + Icons?
[04:34] <Jake> Ro1: Are you on kubuntu?
[04:34] <userundefine> Ro1, some kind of issue with flash right now.  I know an older ubuntu installation of mine has flash with sound working.  I haven't looked too deeply into the package myself.
[04:34] <Ro1> ubuntu dapper
[04:35] <Jake> nvm
[04:35] <xenex> roland-erau: I had the same problem but I just restarted my computer and it was fine.
[04:35] <Kasuko> if I wanted to put "xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server" in a file and make a link to that file called fix and put it in a place so when I open terminal and type fix it does xmodmap -e keycode 22 = BackSpace BackSpace Terminate_Server. How would I go about doing that?
[04:35] <bjv> Flawless[off] : neat. -l -P and deleting by hand cleaned up nicely
[04:35] <Jake> Is there a way to install from the live cd using terminal?
[04:35] <Flawless[off] > bjv: they usually do :)
[04:36] <userundefine> Ro1, the workaround I've found to be the best is (if you're using Firefox) to get the VideoDownloader extension which will allow detect video in a page and let you download it as a file.  Then you can play it in mplayer and it works -- even on flash files.
[04:36] <bjv> i like the apt system, guess i should hit the man page more for dpkg as well, though :)
[04:36] <CokeNCode> anyone in here familiar with nubuntu
[04:36] <CokeNCode> ?
[04:36] <omirix> I just switched to a different Linux. Where can I find the beatiful Ubuntu Human theme + Icons?
[04:36] <Jake> Is there a way to install from the live cd using terminal?
[04:36] <userundefine> omirix, System > Preferences > Theme
[04:36] <Flawless[off] > Jake: yes
[04:36] <NickGarvey> !art
[04:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about art
[04:36] <NickGarvey> mm
[04:36] <userundefine> omirix, oh, sorry, the packages
[04:36] <Flawless[off] > Jake: look at the file Desktop/install
[04:36] <omirix> userundefine, yeah, i could do that if i had the human theme.
[04:37] <omirix> userundefine, np. where can i find that?
[04:37] <Flawless[off] > Jake: and see what command it runs. I can't remember the name
[04:37] <Flawless[off] > !install
[04:37] <userundefine> omirix, gnome-look.org I believe
[04:37] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[04:37] <omirix> userundefine, looked there. cant find the authentic version.
[04:37] <crimsun> omirix: in the ubuntu-artwork package.
[04:37] <gdb> Is anyone here using a Dell machine with the Dell Internal Business Audio speaker?
[04:37] <NickGarvey> !artwork > omirix
[04:37] <omirix> ah. okay. can i emerge that?
[04:37] <omirix> heh ty, NickGarvey
[04:37] <Ro1> gdb: nope
[04:37] <crimsun> omirix: um...probably not?
[04:37] <crimsun> omirix: grab the source and compile it
[04:38] <userundefine> omirix, if gentoo has done an ebuild of it.  Can check their forums... it's possible someone's working on it
[04:38] <omirix> mk. i just love how beautiful Human is.
[04:38] <omirix> and the icons
[04:38] <omirix> are gorgeous =P
[04:38] <gdb> My buddy and I both have Dell Optiplex GX620s and his speaker is working with Fedora Core 5 after a kernel update to 2.6.16.  Obviously, Ubuntu is using kernel 2.6.15 but I'd like to know if this is a lost cause before I give up.
[04:38] <Jake> Flawless[off] : I know, but that just re-launches the gui...
[04:38] <gdb> The sound works fine out of the front and rear panels, but the Dell Internal Business Audio Speaker does not work for me on Ubuntu.
[04:38] <Flawless[off] > Jake: Oh, I thought that's what you wanted
[04:39] <Flawless[off] > Jake: if you are experienced, you can try debootstrap
[04:39] <Jake> Flawless[off] : Argh........... ok.
[04:41] <gdb> omirix: I wish there was more variety in the wallpaper.  This could be accomplished by not removing wallpapers included in previous releases.
[04:41] <gdb> I get my wallpapers from http://www.interfacelift.com/
[04:41] <snoops> it's not hard to get more wallpapers gdb
[04:41] <wasabi> So what is the proper place to put a script to run on device removal/addition?  Basically I have a udi I want to run a script with when it's added.
[04:41] <gdb> snoops: I never indicated that it was.
[04:42] <gdb> snoops: I'm interested in more offical Ubuntu wallpapers.  This would imply that I'd like to see wallpapers included in previous releases to be carried forward into current releases.
[04:42] <snoops> well.. I doubt more wallpaper variety would be big on the release.. there are important things to work on first
[04:43] <gdb> snoops: It takes work to remove wallpapers and include new ones.  It's half the work to include new ones and not remove old ones.
[04:43] <slwyse> ello?
[04:43] <gdb> slwyse: howdy
[04:43] <blacktears> hey how well does gaim work with yahoo
[04:43] <david__> how do i change the write attribute to make my windows partitions to writeable
[04:43] <gdb> blacktears: Works just fine for me.
[04:43] <blacktears> cool thanks
[04:44] <snoops> fat32 david__?
[04:44] <userundefine> david__, you can't write to NTFS natively.  You can use NTFS captive, but apparently it can be risky.
[04:44] <slwyse> ahh  i like my gaim
[04:44] <blacktears> im starting to get used to linux im thinking of switching entirely over to it actuall
[04:44] <blacktears> *actually
[04:44] <gdb> blacktears: Good to hear!
[04:44] <slwyse> i have linux
[04:44] <gdb> blacktears: And I'm glad that Ubuntu seems to be what you're liking.
[04:44] <slwyse> yes
[04:44] <gdb> david__: That is something you'll end up regretting.
[04:45] <blacktears> well the thing is is that linux is so much easier to use than windows, if you need a program, with linux you just download it
[04:45] <david__> i thikn more people would switch to linux if it were as user friendly as windows
[04:45] <slwyse> yep
[04:45] <gdb> david__: Immediately after the kernel writes to your NTFS partition, all the data on it will either be munged or gone entirely.  So I'm not sure that's what you want to do.
[04:45] <NickGarvey> apt-get, you are my hero..
[04:45] <thenostradamus> hey, can someone help we with this Xserver error i'm getting?
[04:45] <thenostradamus> http://www.serverchimps.com/49
[04:45] <wizzard> i switched to linux today
[04:45] <wizzard> :D
[04:45] <blacktears> well im not pretending to be a software guru, im a hardware person, and installing linux, dual boot with windows was a snap
[04:45] <bruenig> blacktears, it is easier but different and also the ease of it depends on what you intend to do, if you are a huge gamer, it's not easy at all,
[04:45] <snoops> blacktears repositories rock my socks.. still, lots of little things needed for ease of use are stopping real widescreen adoption..
[04:45] <david__> oh, ok
[04:45] <userundefine> I think more people would switch if they knew that viruses and spyware and "the rest" wasn't how computing was *supposed* to be
[04:45] <tronica> wizzard, glad to here it
[04:46] <snoops> widespread* not widescreen :/
[04:46] <david__> how about i have an empty fat 32 partition, could i write to that safely?|
[04:46] <blacktears> true true
[04:46] <snoops> yep david__
[04:46] <userundefine> i think there should be more widescreen adoption too snoops ;)
[04:46] <gdb> david__: Yes, absolutely.
[04:46] <wizzard> tronica and i must say everything feels so much .. i dont know how to describe it... smother
[04:46] <nickrud> userundefine, it's about targets; if we become a big enough one ...
[04:46] <blacktears> i just think, personally that windows has brainwashed people
[04:46] <snoops> userundefine haha definitely.. I adore my widescreen
[04:46] <bruenig> david__, the fat32 is the best way to go as it is read/write supported in both OSes natively
[04:47] <gdb> I don't care for widescreens.  I don't feel like I'm getting a bigger screen that's wider, I feel like I'm getting a shorter screen that's smaller.
[04:47] <jimbo2006> Hi folks, just installed this wonderful Ubuntu. I have only 256MB RAM and I want to improve performance when many apps are open. Will installing a smaller window manager make more RAM free? If so, what window manager do you recommend?
[04:47] <tronica> wizzard, you mean not restrictive :D
[04:47] <david__> i was using rh8 a couple years ago and i was able to write to fat 16 with no problem should a make my fat 32 16?
[04:47] <bruenig> jimbo2006, yes try fluxbox
[04:47] <mog> hi guys; how would i start an ssh server?
[04:47] <nickrud> jimbo2006, xfce  is nice
[04:47] <wizzard> tronica :D
[04:47] <jimbo2006> thanks bruenig
[04:47] <n08l3v1rk> hello everybody
[04:47] <jimbo2006> and thanks nickrud
[04:47] <n08l3v1rk> is there any way to upgrade from ubuntu 5.04 to 6.06
[04:47] <userundefine> nickrud, not necessarily.  The *nix system is built from the ground up with security and multiple users in mind.  It's far more difficult to attack *nix
[04:47] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell mog about ssh
[04:48] <wizzard> Someone here have experience with Wine ? I just cant figure out how to use it...
[04:48] <nickrud> userundefine, give an asshole a target, they will target it
[04:48] <david__> the thing i found frustrating about linux is it didn't play movies right out of the box, so to speak.
[04:48] <blacktears> linux, has made everything easier
[04:48] <tronica> mog, just install open-ssh server
[04:48] <userundefine> nickrud, sure.  Whether or not they hit the target..
[04:48] <bruenig> no7l3v1rk sudo dist-upgrade
[04:48] <blacktears> if you arent a gamer that is\
[04:48] <mog> ubotu?
[04:48] <david__> I read around and found automatix, and that fixed it
[04:48] <mog> !ssh
[04:48] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:48] <snoops> gdb my 24" widescreen would have to disagree with your shorter screen that's smaller philosophy :)
[04:48] <nickrud> userundefine, but you point is relevant. Just luckily, not a mass target yet
[04:48] <chip42> gdb: thats kind of funny. when i first got this widescreen laptop, normal computer monitors looked small, just because of the more squarish dimensions. pschological of course.. the laptop screen is in reality smaller
[04:48] <n08l3v1rk> bruenig:no go
[04:49] <n08l3v1rk> it says 0 upgraded 0 newly installed 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[04:49] <HLM> had legal copy of Vista Beta 2 on my test box and removed it after 10 minutes of use. It's a piece of crap
[04:49] <thenostradamus> n08l3v1rk, change your sources in /etc/apt/source.list
[04:49] <Ro1> figured...its mircorosucks
[04:49] <snoops> chip42 well it goes works witht he human eye more naturally.. we see far more horizontal than vertical.. so stands to reason really
[04:49] <tronica> HLM, same here
[04:49] <thenostradamus> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:49] <gdb> Yes, it's completely a perspective thing.  I'd rather have a normal dimention 24" than a widescreen 24".  But obviously, there are many different flavors of tea in the world for everyone's individual cups. ;-)
[04:49] <thenostradamus> n08l3v1rk, change your sources in /etc/apt/sources.list**
[04:49] <wizzard> Someone here that use Wine ?
[04:50] <snoops> how's the dynamic searches and save search queries system HLM?
[04:50] <Ro1> i use wine
[04:50] <nickrud> HLM, as a user of linux, you gave vista no useful use
[04:50] <n08l3v1rk> hmm.. how to update the sources in sources.list
[04:50] <Geoffrey2> david__, to the best of my knowledge, Ubuntu can read and write to FAT32 just fine...it's only NTFS that's a problem at present
[04:50] <wizzard> Rol, how do i use it? :D I just cant figure it out
[04:50] <thenostradamus> n08l3v1rk, u don't update them, u change them
[04:50] <thenostradamus> to dapper
[04:50] <bruenig> gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:50] <userundefine> n08l3v1rk, in a terminal, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" - no quotes
[04:50] <HLM> last good version of windows was 3.11
[04:50] <n08l3v1rk> ok
[04:50] <n08l3v1rk> what next
[04:50] <nickrud> HLM, heh
[04:51] <Ro1> na...my favorite winows was 98se
[04:51] <david__> the write properties on my fat32 partition are turned  off
[04:51] <Ro1> that rocked
[04:51] <Ro1> like only 3 running processes lol
[04:51] <snoops> gdb I believe the largest 4:3 monitor available these days is 21".. everything above that is 16:10 (for pc monitors)
[04:51] <userundefine> Yeah, bsods every hour rocked
[04:51] <Ro1> OH YEAHHH right on userundefined
[04:51] <n08l3v1rk> it says 3 different group of URLs
[04:51] <Geoffrey2> HLM, surely you haven't forgotten the General?
[04:51] <n08l3v1rk> so do i need to update all of them
[04:51] <n08l3v1rk> ?
[04:51] <HLM> 98se was just win95 with IE4 inbeded
[04:51] <gdb> snoops: Ah, ok.  I was just asking my friend, his 24" is also a widescreen.
[04:52] <gdb> snoops: All my LCDs are 19"
[04:52] <Ro1> i made a BSOD screensaver...so when my dad tried to use my laptop, he well would be like WTH!
[04:52] <blacktears> so whats everybodys favorite linux distribution?
[04:52] <gdb> And normal ratio.
[04:52] <Ro1> UBUNTU!!!!
[04:52] <userundefine> Ro1, lol
[04:52] <n08l3v1rk> if possible, please guide me where to find them >
[04:52] <n08l3v1rk> ?
[04:52] <jimbo2006> Apart from Ubuntu Mepis is nice
[04:52] <Ro1> anyone read 1337 hax0r handb00k
[04:52] <tronica> blacktears, ubuntu, slackware
[04:52] <nickrud> bsod's were for idiot users, you coull\d always avoid them in the old windows
[04:52] <Ro1> bsod's are great fun
[04:52] <userundefine> I was 12 at the time... definitely a idiot user
[04:53] <thenostradamus> n08l3v1rk, wherever it says breezy or w/e distribution ur using, replace it with dapper
[04:53] <snoops> blacktears there are other distributions? ;)
[04:53] <Ro1> heheh, at the time i got windows i think i was 9....now i more experienced (non windoze user anymore :)
[04:53] <blacktears> slackware?
[04:53] <nickrud> userundefine, heh. I was much older then,
[04:53] <thenostradamus> then save and close and do an apt-get update
[04:53] <Ro1> now i'm 14
[04:53] <thenostradamus> then apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:53] <blacktears> what tis dis?
[04:53] <chip42> snoops: i suppose it does. i don't know how i got by without stacking full size windows next to each other..
[04:53] <Ro1> anyone ever read Linux Torvalds book, "Just For Fun"?
[04:54] <thompa> i lost my sound somehow. ive restarted in alsa, now back to auto
[04:54] <nickrud> Ro1, but I like the title
[04:54] <Ro1> i at first thought i'd be boring...but it keeps me very itnerestied
[04:54] <Ro1> its not boring book at all
[04:54] <HLM> if windows is so good why does microsoft use linux servers for all their updates
[04:54] <dibblego> my /usr/bin/gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders executable is causing a segmentation fault - I have opened a bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50836 - but I am not sure if there is anything more I can do - it is quite crippling, I can't install or use a lot of software
[04:54] <Ro1> HLM; good question
[04:54] <thompa> system sound work, seems real player problem
[04:54] <userundefine> HLM, never heard they do
[04:55] <nickrud> HLM, that's fud
[04:55] <blacktears> what is slackware?
[04:55] <Ro1> a linux distro
[04:55] <chip42> Ro1: thats an autobiography of sorts?
[04:55] <Ro1> !slackware
[04:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about slackware
[04:55] <Ro1> chip42. yes
[04:55] <dibblego> !developers
[04:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about developers
[04:55] <HLM> been that way since blaster and sasser hit them
[04:55] <thompa> i have to reinstall real player to get streaming audio
[04:55] <tronica> http://www.slackware.com/
[04:55] <dibblego> what's the ubuntu developers channel?
[04:55] <snoops> HLM that's a silly argument though.. what's good for the server doesn't mean is good for the desktop.. The desktop just happens to be ms's main market
[04:55] <nickrud> blacktears, a very fine distro of linux, but it requires a lot from the user
[04:56] <HLM> ok
[04:56] <NickGarvey> dibblego: ubuntu-dev I think
[04:56] <Ro1> i think the develpopers channle is #ubuntu+1
[04:56] <NickGarvey> dibblego: nope ;)
[04:56] <nickrud> #ubuntu-dev
[04:56] <Ro1> ah...sounds better nickrud
[04:56] <bruenig> #ubuntu+1 is edge eft
[04:56] <Ro1> yeah...well edge is in develpment
[04:56] <bruenig> semantics
[04:57] <nickrud> edgy eft, something to ignore till september
[04:57] <thompa> ok i have to start real player before firefox that sucks
[04:57] <NickGarvey> nickrud: thats not it
[04:57] <HLM> tried FreeSuse 10.1 and really did not care for it
[04:57] <Ro1> fuzzy fox......guilty giraffe.....huggable hippo....those will be next distros, lol
[04:57] <NickGarvey> HLM: openuses ou mean?
[04:57] <NickGarvey> wow that was horrible
[04:57] <bruenig> if edgy eft has full support for 32 bit on 64 bit like they said, it will be the greatest OS ever
[04:57] <thompa> !realplayer
[04:57] <NickGarvey> HLM: opensuse you mean?
[04:57] <nickrud> #ubuntu-devel NickGarvey
[04:57] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:57] <tronica> HLM, did you use smart
[04:57] <chip42> NickGarvey: lol. i understood it immediately though
[04:57] <NickGarvey> ;)
[04:58] <HLM> brb
[04:58] <NickGarvey> HLM: smart makes it so much better (running opensuse 10.1 now ;))
[04:58] <varsendagger> !nvidia
[04:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:58] <tys> !vim7
[04:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about vim7
[04:58] <Ro1> if anyone is short of questions....wanna have a small browser war (nothing mean though)
[04:58] <blacktears> so when you install slackware do you have a gui or not?
[04:58] <ToHellWithGA> i installed apache and apache perl and apache ssl b/c i thought that would be what i needed for a webserver then realized i only needed apache2
[04:59] <tronica> blacktears, no
[04:59] <blacktears> that sucks
[04:59] <ToHellWithGA> after removing all but apache2 with apt-get remove --purge, rc still tries to start apache-perl and apache-ssl
[04:59] <tys> does somebody have a HOWTO for installing vim7
[04:59] <tronica> blacktears, go to osdir and look at the screenshot gallery for slackware
[04:59] <Ro1> tys: maybe i can find one
[04:59] <blacktears> ok
[04:59] <ToHellWithGA> could somebody help me clear everything that isn't apache2 from my computer so apache2 will actually start at startup?
[05:00] <HLM> will maybe try open suse again with smart
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> *everything apache-related that isn't apache2
[05:00] <thenostradamus> ToHellWithGA, find /* | grep apache
[05:00] <dr_willis> tys,  i just followed the docs on the vim page and used the SVN version.
[05:00] <ali> hi can i install ipcop on ubuntu breezy or dapper ?
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> thenostradamus: but i need to remove the references as well
[05:00] <dr_willis> not that i needed vim7 :)
[05:00] <tronica> HLM, yast just hung there and never worked for me
[05:00] <Ro1> TYM: try this http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1473
[05:00] <ali> or is it a linux by it self
[05:00] <ali>  ?
[05:00] <ToHellWithGA> would simply removing the files in my rcX.d directories solve the problem?
[05:00] <blacktears> where is it?
[05:01] <tronica> blacktears, hld on
[05:01] <HLM> i know... yast did the same to me
[05:01] <userundefine> ali, from what I understand IPCop is a firewall distro.
[05:01] <dibblego> is there something that will create an ISO from a CD?
[05:01] <twitch> dibblego, many things
[05:01] <blacktears> ty
[05:01] <tronica> blacktears, http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=437&slide=48&title=slackware+linux+10.2+screenshots
[05:01] <dibblego> twitch, can you recommend one?
[05:01] <sloncho> hi. dapper, mplayer. how to make cyrillic (cp1251) subs to be displayed? tried different options (subcp, subfontencoding) ... no help. w/o options it displays substituted characters (cyr), with any option - only underscores.
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> sloncho: what language?
[05:02] <nickrud> dibblego, dd if=/dev/cdrom (or equiv) of=iso.iso bs=1024
[05:02] <tys> dr_willis: do you have some url?
[05:02] <marc> How do I use Wine?
[05:02] <sloncho> ToHellWithGA: BG
[05:02] <thompa> you still cant listen to bbc in ubuntu easily
[05:02] <NickGarvey> !wine > marc
[05:02] <twitch> dibblego, well im going to assume that your using ubuntu considering the channel that your in right now so try looking an app in SPM
[05:02] <sloncho> ToHellWithGA: bulgarian. this works OK under suse
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> sloncho: perhaps people in the channel for Russian or some other cyrillic language could help.  this is the English channel so few people here would use cyrillic
[05:02] <snoops> bs=1024 only takes the first 1024bytes doesn't it nickrud?
[05:02] <ToHellWithGA> !russian
[05:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about russian
[05:02] <thompa> it only works with real player: streaming audio
[05:03] <dibblego> thanks
[05:03] <dr_willis> tys,  for vim7? i just went to their homepage and read about it and followed the instructions.
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> !bg
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about bg
[05:03] <sloncho> !bulgaria
[05:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about bulgaria
[05:03] <nickrud> snoops, just defines how to read
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> !ru
[05:03] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[05:03] <Ro1> TYS http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=1473
[05:03] <sloncho> !bg
[05:03] <blacktears> well how do you go from command line to gui?
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> is bulgarian similar enough to russian that you could get something from ubuntu-ru?
[05:03] <nickrud> snoops, actually, me , personally, I never added that. I just add that cuz I see that recommended here
[05:03] <dr_willis> blacktears,  'startx' command will start the X server and so forth.
[05:04] <blacktears> cool
[05:04] <ali> thanks userundefine ;) same here but strange and excellent ;)
[05:04] <ali> takecare
[05:04] <blacktears> how well does linux do with mp3s
[05:04] <ali> ubuntu rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:04] <blacktears> yep
[05:04] <snoops> hmm nickrud, so how come for hdd's.. to copy the mbr (boot sector + partition table) you use bs=512.. for just the bootsector you use bs=446.. I thought that's the number of bytes it takes up
[05:04] <sloncho> ToHellWithGA: usually russians use KOI8-R encoding, not cp1251
[05:04] <userundefine> blacktears, does just fine if you install mp3 support.
[05:04] <snoops> since that's exactly how big the file it creates is
[05:04] <bruenig> blacktears, not natively supported but installing appropriate codecs is very easy
[05:04] <thompa> kubuntu is tops
[05:04] <sloncho> ToHellWithGA: but I'll try
[05:04] <nickrud> snoops, we're talking about a cd, not a hard disk
[05:04] <swaj> kubuntu is pretty buggy on my laptop... but ubuntu runs flawlessly
[05:04] <blacktears> cool
[05:05] <snoops> shouldn't it be treated the same for dd though nickrud?
[05:05] <nickrud> snoops, not really, no.
[05:05] <blacktears> how about ares-like programs?
[05:05] <thompa> opposite here on, lappy gnome is slower
[05:05] <blacktears> if any of you know what ares is
[05:05] <jsgotangco> swaj: unfortunately, there wasn't much focus on kubuntu from the laptop testing team though
[05:05] <userundefine> blacktears, does that run on gnutella?  I forget.  There's an emule (amule) client
[05:05] <blacktears> no its for windows
[05:06] <Ro1> anyone know of a good video player other then mplayer?
[05:06] <blacktears> but what about like kazaa or stuff like that
[05:06] <userundefine> blacktears, I know, but what p2p network does it use
[05:06] <nickrud> snoops, if you want my personal dd for getting data off a cd for writing?: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/datatdisc   That suffices
[05:06] <blacktears> i dont know actually
[05:06] <thompa> how to disable the touchpad anyone. im suffering?
[05:06] <tronica> blacktears, try running it in wine
[05:06] <blacktears> i never had to until i found linux
[05:06] <blacktears> whats wine
[05:06] <tys> Ro1: I doesn't work
[05:07] <NickGarvey> !wine > blacktears
[05:07] <Ro1> OK
[05:07] <mog> !modprobe > mog
[05:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe
[05:07] <mog> doh. anyone wanna explain "modprobe ath_pci" to me?
[05:07] <blacktears> cool so if i have a .exe file i can use wine to run it
[05:07] <mog> it doesnt return anything for me
[05:07] <tronica> yep
[05:07] <snoops> yeah nickrud.. that's fine.. but bs is the thing I'm wondering about.. since bs=512 copies the first 512bytes on hdd, and bs=446 copies first 446bytes.. why wouldn't bs=1024 copy the first 1024bytes?
[05:08] <nickrud> mog, if it returns nothing , it installed the module properly
[05:08] <blacktears> is that a yep to me or another conversation?
[05:08] <userundefine> mog, it loads the ath_pci module from the kernel.  typically it doesn't print anything out.
[05:08] <tronica> blacktears, to you
[05:08] <NickGarvey> snoops: I don't think you need the bs, I didn't use it and I copy isos all the time
[05:08] <Ro1> o SHOOT! i have a problem....my sound isnt working at all...this morning it was..can someone help?
[05:08] <blacktears> tronica, thank you
[05:08] <mog> userundefine: somethings not working here then :\
[05:08] <tronica> blacktears, wine is in the repos
[05:09] <nickrud> mog, lsmod  returns all the modules you have loaded; ath_pci should be near the bottom if you just loaded it
[05:09] <tronica> blacktears, and after you install it just run winecfg to configure it
[05:09] <userundefine> mog, ..... yep what nickrud said
[05:09] <blacktears> cool so by tomorrow i shall only be running linux
[05:09] <mog> userundefine: do you mind taking a look here? http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/roofnet/doku.php?id=software ; I'm slightly confused by the instructions prior to "modprobe ath_pci"
[05:09] <blacktears> no more dual boot
[05:09] <tronica> blacktears, go to the forums and there is tons on running wine
[05:09] <blacktears> ty
[05:09] <snoops> ah I see.. okay.. bs is the input and output block size.. so it'll keep copying the disk in 1024byte blocks, unless you tell it how many times to do it.. such as count=1
[05:09] <Ro1> o SHOOT! i have a problem....my sound isnt working at all...this morning it was..can someone help?
[05:10] <nickrud> snoops, we're not freaking concerned with particuluar sectors, when we're dealing with cds
[05:10] <userundefine> mog, is ath_pci output somewhere when you type in "lsmod"?
[05:10] <mog> yes
[05:10] <snoops> wow nickrud, don't get your panties in a twist :)
[05:10] <mog> but the next step doesnt work
[05:11] <mog> so i assume im missing one of these:
[05:11] <nickrud> snoops, heh, my panties have extra twistability :)
[05:11] <mog> it says do make all; make install; then "to build and install click. Once everything has built, install the modules and load the Roofnet click config: Load the newly built drivers for the Atheros AR521X cards:" then modprobe ath_pci
[05:11] <mog> im not sure what install the modules is... nor load roofnet click config...
[05:11] <nickrud> snoops, cd's are not hard to copy, don't make it harder
[05:11] <moshe> hello
[05:12] <blacktears> were can i see screenshots of what people have done with their desktops on linux
[05:12] <nickrud> assuming some fucking copy protection is not involved
[05:12] <blacktears> down with copy protection!!!!
[05:12] <bruenig> I would try art.gnome.org or something like that just google a lot of this stuff
[05:12] <moshe> I just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and when I boot, gdm doesn't start.  What do I need to edit to get it to start automatically?
[05:12] <dr_willis> blacktears,  google will show dozens iof sites.. gnome-look.org and kde-look.org are 2
[05:12] <userundefine> by modprobing the module, you have "installed" them.  After that, just cd to where you have the directory it lists (../conf/wiki) and run sh * in terminal
[05:12] <tronica> blacktears, go to the ubuntuforums.org/gallery
[05:12] <snoops> nickrud, well you were stating that copying hdd's and cd's is different in linux using the same dd command.. I just looked up the dd spec to find out exactly what did what.. no probs
[05:13] <mog> userundefine: yeah, that fails horrifically lol
[05:13] <nickrud> snoops, ah, no, I would never say that, I was only talking about copying cds. Point taken
[05:13] <userundefine> mog, ah, well that's probably an issue with the script then which would be out of my depth.  never used whatever program that is.
[05:13] <mog> userundefine: k, thx anyways.
[05:15] <Asche>  hola, tengo un juego para irc hecho en perl y me instale el sirc para cargarlo, cuando pongo "/load script.pl" no pasa nada, el codigo del juego esta aca http://pastebin.com/732467
[05:15] <Madpilot> !es
[05:15] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:15] <jimbo2006> I am downloading fluxbox - is it easy to tell ubuntu to load fluxbox instead of gnome?
[05:15] <Asche> sorry
[05:16] <dr_willis> jimbo2006,  trivial
[05:17] <dr_willis> jimbo2006,  it will be listed in the GDM menus as a session you can use.
[05:17] <jimbo2006> ok thanks dr_willis
[05:17] <bruenig> you can uninstall gnome if you wish
[05:17] <Evilscientist> can someone answer a question so basic I can't find the answer for it??
[05:17] <bruenig> no
[05:17] <userundefine> Evilscientist, possibly
[05:17] <dr_willis> jimbo2006,  most all the alternative desktops/wndow managers do that.. thiose that dont.. are easially added.
[05:17] <Evilscientist> how the hell do you edit a config file in the base install?
[05:18] <nickrud> bruenig, I'm still looking for the magic invocation for removing gnome
[05:18] <Evilscientist> what's the "edit" equivalent?
[05:18] <bruenig> Evilscientist command line sudo gedit /path/to/file
[05:18] <LoneShadow> I am trying to setup a dual boot - centos and ubuntu dapper
[05:18] <nickrud> Evilscientist, nano
[05:18] <Evilscientist> nano = gedit?
[05:18] <bruenig> go gedit
[05:18] <LoneShadow> I got the debootstrap done, but not able to "dpkg-reconfigure locales console-data"
[05:18] <userundefine> two different programs.  one CLI one GUI
[05:19] <nickrud> Evilscientist, no, it's very low level, available always
[05:19] <Ro1> i need help.....my sound is not working at all...but it was a few hours ago
[05:19] <LoneShadow> nano = simillar to pico :D
[05:19] <Evilscientist> danke.....I may have more soon! ;)
[05:19] <bruenig> evilscientist, gui is easier, but if you prefer editing files in command line go with nano
[05:19] <Evilscientist> I'm trying to set up a SAMBA server...
[05:19] <Ro1> i need help.....my sound is not working at all...but it was a few hours ago
[05:19] <Evilscientist> suggest I keep to base or load a GUI?
[05:20] <nickrud> Evilscientist, erm, stay as low level as you need. If you intend to run a gui on the machine, install a gui. Otherwise, don't
[05:20] <userundefine> Evilscientist, ah, you've installed ubuntu as a server?  Just use command line programs (like nano) then.
[05:20] <bruenig> evilscientist, up to you, i was able to work faster in gui because i was used to it
[05:21] <bruenig> evilscientist, oh i didn't realize you went server go CLI
[05:21] <nickrud> !info nano
[05:21] <ubotu> nano: free Pico clone with some new features. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.3.10-1 (dapper), package size 250 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[05:21] <Evilscientist> CLI?
[05:21] <Ro1> i need help.....my sound is not working at all...but it was a few hours ago
[05:21] <nickrud> !cli
[05:21] <Evilscientist> command line interface?
[05:21] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[05:21] <bruenig> yes
[05:21] <Ro1> i need help.....my sound is not working at all...but it was a few hours ago
[05:21] <nickrud> heh, ubotu kept that one
[05:21] <twitch> does anyone here user firestarter?
[05:21] <Ro1> i do
[05:22] <Ro1> but i need help
[05:22] <Ro1> but i need help
[05:22] <lightstar> twitch, i do
[05:22] <nickrud> twitch, have done, not recently
[05:22] <userundefine> Ro1, people in here might not be familiar with your problem but check here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200210
[05:22] <jajaja1> i have a zydas usb wlan...it gets an ip and mac address but when I try to browse I get nothing...any ideas?
[05:22] <dts> I'm trying to create a custom installation (!not live) CD and i'm using preseed, however i feel like the commands i type are being ignored, is there any good howtos out there/
[05:22] <Ro1> userundefine: ok
[05:22] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to make a list of packages i installed so i can reinstall ubuntu with its defaults then run the script to add on all of my hand-picked addons
[05:22] <twitch> lightstar, do you often get messages in your events tab?
[05:22] <lightstar> twitch, yeap i sure do
[05:22] <twitch> because i get alot of them and im not sure if its just routine connections im getting or actual threats?
[05:23] <bruenig> tohellwithga, i think they have a minimal install cd
[05:23] <hanasaki> how do i add a locale?
[05:23] <Evilscientist> so i could install say a minimum shell like xubuntu and still have the system act as a domain server...correct?
[05:23] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, dpkg --get-selections > IwantThesePackages
[05:23] <twitch> so how do you determine the threats from the generic connections
[05:23] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, then, dpkg --set-selections < IwantThesePackages
[05:23] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, after the install
[05:23] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: does that get everything or just my choices?
[05:24] <userundefine> Evilscientist, you could, but the GUI would just be wasting cpu cycles and RAM if you keep it on there.  Your choice, really
[05:24] <dts> nicrud how do you add these selections to the installation script so that after the installation the system is automatically in that stage?
[05:24] <Paladine> anyone got any ideas on this? (soffice.bin:1345): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[05:24] <Evilscientist> just need it as a file server/printer server...
[05:24] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, just your installed packages, based on the current state when you to the --get-selections
[05:24] <jimbo2006> jajaja1 I have a zydas USB I think I had to download some firmware files. I still haven't got it working. Have you looked through dmesg?
[05:24] <Evilscientist> ...not setting it up as a game server or anything.....
[05:24] <yipe> !mbr
[05:24] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[05:24] <hanasaki> dpkg-reconfigure locales <= does nothing.. just lists en  how do i add japanese?
[05:25] <Ro1> no one can help me with my problem?
[05:25] <twitch> lightstar, how do you dertermine which events are threats?
[05:25] <bruenig> !ubotu
[05:25] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:25] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: and that ">" pushes them to a file and the "<" pulls them from a file?
[05:25] <yipe> wow, I  forgot how much I loved xchat2.4.4
[05:25] <lightstar> twitch, hard for a firewall to determine which are threats..that is y we deploy IDS:)
[05:26] <twitch> lightstar, IDS?
[05:26] <nickrud> hanasaki, erm. I have issues with that, but System-Admin->Language Support is supposed to be how it works
[05:26] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, exactly.
[05:26] <lightstar> !ids
[05:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about ids
[05:26] <hanasaki> in debian i used to dpkg-reconfigure locales and it brought up a list .. NickGarvey
[05:26] <hanasaki> nickrud:  that is
[05:26] <lightstar> twitch, intrusion detection system
[05:26] <hanasaki> in debian i used to dpkg-reconfigure locales and it brought up a list .. nickrud
[05:26] <jajaja1> Jjimbo2006: i get no errors in dmesg
[05:26] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA,  > means write to a file, < means read from a file
[05:26] <crimsun> hanasaki: see /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED, and use locale-gen
[05:26] <nickrud> hanasaki, yes, and that is now not supported
[05:27] <nickrud> hanasaki, see crimusn
[05:27] <bean_> hi, does anyone know how i can input japanese in say openoffice without having to log in through a japanese session?
[05:27] <crimsun> hanasaki: or in GNOME, use System> Administration> Language Support
[05:27] <bean_> in windows this is easily accomplished by changing the IME settings
[05:27] <hanasaki> hmm did ubuntu take that out of debian ? why is it gone now
[05:27] <bean_> how to do this in dapper?
[05:27] <twitch> lightstar, are there any linux IDS?
[05:27] <stbrenner> can someone tell me how set GNOME as my default graphical enviorment?  i wanted to try KDE and accidently selected it as the default and can't do it from the login screen like in GNOME
[05:28] <jimbo2006> OK I'm sorry I can't be of any more help jajaja1
[05:28] <Paladine> hmmm anyone got a minute
[05:28] <lightstar> !snort
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about snort
[05:28] <Ro1> somone please help me...this morning i was using my sound perfectly...now it wont work at all, i'm using dapper and ATI IXP
[05:28] <nickrud> hanasaki, a question better asked, not to crimsun or me :)
[05:28] <lightstar> twitch, look up snort
[05:28] <ToHellWithGA> thanks nickrud.  you're an indispensable resource in here
[05:28] <hanasaki> to how nickrud
[05:28] <Paladine> ooo crimsun I was told to speak to you
[05:28] <nickrud> hanasaki, look into who's doing the language support, and bug them
[05:29] <Paladine> crimsun I hear you are a bit of a sound guru
[05:29] <Ro1> somone please help me...this morning i was using my sound perfectly...now it wont work at all, i'm using dapper and ATI IXP
[05:29] <w33z> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Freenode_Hacking_Fallout_Has_lilo_lied_to_us
[05:29] <blacktears> hey i downloaded a package that would let me mess with windows partitions, where do i access it?
[05:29] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: i'd be ok to trim those selections to just my extras, right?
[05:30] <crimsun> Paladine: there are no gurus, only tears.
[05:30] <Evilscientist> so if you were building a light duty home file and printer server...what would you guys do...GUI or CLI?
[05:30] <dts> nickrud question about the get/set-selections stuff. Is this the same file you use as your preseed file on the installiton CD or do you run this file later on once the sytem is back up?
[05:31] <Paladine> crimsun, would you mind looking at this little problem for me please? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030
[05:31] <nickrud> ToHellWithGA, I'd have to see to comment
[05:31] <ToHellWithGA> nickrud: we shall see :D
[05:31] <ToHellWithGA> if i return in a few hours and say it went well, we will both know
[05:31] <Evilscientist> ....just want an opinion from experts like you....
[05:31] <CarlFK> Evilscientist: I would do cli - but it really doesn't matter
[05:31] <ToHellWithGA> and if it didn't go well i'll still have a fairly small list of packages to do manually
[05:32] <Evilscientist> 1 vote CLI....anyone else?? :)
[05:32] <lightstar> Evilscientist, me
[05:32] <blacktears> hey, anybody, i got a package that would let me mess with ntfs partitions, how do i access it
[05:32] <Evilscientist> keep in mind I'm a complete NUB at linux.
[05:32] <blacktears> the program i mean
[05:32] <dr_willis> Evilscientist,  this is linux use wht YOU want. :P
[05:33] <nickrud> dts, I didn't trust the breezy->dapper upgrade path: so I did a dpkg --get-selections to get a current snapshot of my packages; after I did an install of dapper, I did the --set-selections ; worked like a charm
[05:33] <yipe> I'm having a really hard time getting grub to reinstall
[05:33] <yipe> and yes I've already seen !mbr
[05:33] <Evilscientist> of course....but opinions are like assholes....everybody has them....
[05:33] <Ro1> somone please help me...this morning i was using my sound perfectly...now it wont work at all, i'm using dapper and ATI IXP
[05:33] <Evilscientist> ....I want to know yours! ;)
[05:33] <bruenig> Rol, it is clear nobody knows, try to forums
[05:33] <m1ndsurfer> I've got Fedora Core 3 on my machine and I'm trying to blow it away and install Ubuntu; how do I get rid of the LVM partitions on my disk? Taking Ubuntu's default install options ("Erase entire disk...") doesn't work, it says it can't create the filesystem.
[05:33] <dts> nickrud: awesome thanks, do you know if you can somehow include it in the install CD
[05:33] <jimbo2006> Hey EvilScientist why not install the GUI, set everything up then tell Ubuntu to just boot up CLI when it is all configured?
[05:34] <Evilscientist> that's possible I assume.
[05:34] <nickrud> dts, no, it's something you do afterwards.
[05:35] <nickrud> dts, but: mind you, I am not an even close to expert: I may have been lucky
[05:35] <CarlFK> speaking of sound:  play /usr/share/hwdb-client/sound.wav =  sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
[05:35] <Paladine> does case matter for locales?
[05:35] <CarlFK> how do I find out what is using it?
[05:36] <nickrud> CarlFK, lsof /dev/dsp
[05:36] <Paladine> I get en_GB.utf8 from locale -a, but I get LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 from locale (and I am getting locale errors)
[05:36] <CarlFK> nickrud: nothing.
[05:36] <Evilscientist> thanks for the answers guys........
[05:37] <nickrud> CarlFK, ok, that was my one stab at sound. Wait for the expert
[05:37] <Ro1> somone please help me...this morning i was using my sound perfectly...now it wont work at all, i'm using dapper and ATI IXP
[05:37] <bruenig> rol, nobody knows, try to forums
[05:37] <LoneShadow> anyone having problems with "dpkg-reconfigure locales" ?
[05:37] <CarlFK> nickrud: thanks anyway - at least you seem to understand my problems :)
[05:37] <Ro1> i tried someone has simlar sound problem...no one had answers
[05:37] <jimbo2006> !GDM
[05:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about GDM
[05:37] <yipe> so I'm trying to reinstall grub, and grub is giving me these weird errors like "file not found"
[05:38] <LoneShadow> !locales
[05:38] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[05:38] <Ro1> !your mom
[05:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about your mom
[05:38] <Ro1> heh
[05:38] <userundefine> Ro1, the more people who mention their problems the more attention it'll get.  Why not just attach your problem to the thread
[05:38] <nickrud> CarlFK, a lot of people here have some sideral experience; but this pxe thing is gonna screw most of us
[05:38] <LoneShadow> lol
[05:38] <twitch> does anyone know how to use apt-get build-dep
[05:38] <twitch> it has me baffled
[05:39] <Ro1> userdefine: i dunno...maybe i'll jsut reinstall dapper
[05:39] <jimbo2006> !Colonel Hogan
[05:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about Colonel Hogan
[05:39] <mog> wtf
[05:39] <mog> lol
[05:39] <Ro1> payCE!
[05:39] <nickrud> twitch, sure: apt-get build-dep <package> installs all the necessary packages to build <package>
[05:40] <LoneShadow> !diskless
[05:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[05:40] <twitch> nickrud, well i downloaded a tarball and i typed sudo apt-get build-dep <nameoftarball> and it just said that package was not found
[05:40] <jasonm> gnome-window-decoraor: Another window decorator is already running
[05:40] <jasonm> compiz.real: Failed to manage screen: 0
[05:40] <jasonm> compiz.real: No managable screens found on display :0.0
[05:40] <CarlFK> twitch: I am about to recompile xorg using this as a guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildingWineFromSource
[05:40] <jasonm> i get that when i try and use xgl
[05:41] <CarlFK> twitch: tarball is different - what are you trying to build?
[05:41] <snoops> which guide did ya follow jasonm?
[05:41] <nickrud> twitch, ok, what did you want to install? Face it, people use different names here and there. Translation is needed in nearly every case. And, Hopefully, you won't need to comple
[05:42] <twitch> nickrud, im trying to install snort
[05:42] <nickrud> ah snort.
[05:43] <majd_> hey
[05:43] <twitch> so build-dep doesn't work for tarballs?
[05:43] <majd_> i'm trying to compile Synergy from source...when i run:   ./configure --x-includes=/usr/openwin/include --x-libraries=/usr/openwin/lib
[05:43] <nickrud> twitch, why not just install snort?
[05:43] <majd_> i get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:43] <lightstar> twitch, there already is a snort package 4 ubuntu
[05:43] <majd_> i have gcc installed
[05:43] <jasonm> snoops, the guide on the ubuntu forum. not the guide on ubuntuguide.org
[05:43] <nickrud> twitch, it's in the universe repo/section
[05:44] <snoops> did you try method a or method b jasonm?
[05:44] <twitch> well. id still like to know how to build-dep with tarballs
[05:44] <noiesmo> twitch, you could do build-dep prior to using a tarball but once you down load app you will need to do configure make make install
[05:44] <jasonm> snoops, this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[05:45] <snoops> that guide is pretty outdated
[05:45] <twitch> noiesmo, yes its at the ./configure part where it starts throwing out missing deps and thats why i want to know how to build-dep
[05:45] <snoops> let me grab the one on the ubuntu wiki jasonm
[05:45] <Ro1> woot i fixed it
[05:45] <CarlFK> twitch: tarball is just the source, none of the apt-get package manager instructions
[05:45] <pppoe_dude> ack i cant find anywhere where to get w32codecs for breezy
[05:45] <newbuntu> hello
[05:45] <bruenig> !automatix
[05:45] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:45] <noiesmo> twitch, to use build-dep you will need deb-src repos in your sources.list i believe
[05:45] <nickrud> pppoe_dude, !restricted
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> bruenig, thanks but im no automatix guy
[05:46] <pppoe_dude> also i forgot to mention im on breezy
[05:46] <CarlFK> twitch: so you dont use any of the deb stuff, and you end up with a 'messy' system if you don't know what you are doing (like me)
[05:46] <guest42> Does anyone here use proftpd?
[05:46] <[Ex0r] > I do
[05:46] <nickrud> pppoe_dude, the restricted page will work for any freaking linux for the codecs, just get them
[05:47] <jasonm> snoops, alright.. i appriciate the help. whats odd is i installed linux for the first time ever a few days ago, did this exact same guide and it worked beautiful. for other reasons i reinstalled linux and i now have a different monitor, thats the only thing i can think is different in my X setup and it doesnt work
[05:47] <snoops> k jasonm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl follow that
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > guest42, I use proftpd
[05:47] <bruenig> you are too superior to use automatix, i understand yet you can't find your own .deb or binary source of w32codecs and install it yourself, makes sense
[05:47] <newbuntu> whats the best way to network with your home pc from a remote pc, so that you can copy files over to the machine your on, I have desktop sharing on, but you cant share files
[05:47] <guest42> Alright, 'cause I'm having a problem with it.
[05:47] <cci[RR] us> hi is there a built in BitTorrent client in Dapper 6.06?
[05:47] <[Ex0r] > newbieme, ftp?
[05:47] <guest42> I'm using the basic setup that it shows in the configuration page.
[05:47] <Ro1> cci Yes
[05:47] <snoops> that'll get you the latest versions of xgl and compiz anyway jasonm (newer than on the ubuntu repositories)
[05:47] <lightstar> newbuntu, scp
[05:48] <guest42> Which says it doesn't need a password
[05:48] <newbuntu> what is scp ?
[05:48] <Ro1> cci[RR[, its jsut not displayed in your apps menu
[05:48] <guest42> But when I try to connect, it asks for a password anyway
[05:48] <nickrud> cci[RR] us, yes, drag a torrent from firefox to the desktop, then click the desktop torrent
[05:48] <jasonm> snoops, i'll give this a go
[05:48] <newbuntu> just out of curiousity
[05:48] <lightstar> !scp
[05:48] <cci[RR] us> yah i enabled it from my menu, but is that a good client?
[05:48] <ubotu> scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using ssh. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - winscp is a windows scp client
[05:48] <cci[RR] us> or should i install something better?
[05:48] <newbuntu> thanks
[05:48] <snoops> jasonm there's also #ubuntu-xgl for help on that.. usually not many people in there.. but worth a go if you still have problems after that guide
[05:48] <mitrovarr> so what's the preferred fast install script for 6.06?  (easy ubuntu, automatix, that sort of thing)
[05:48] <Ro1> cci, BT is already isntalled
[05:48] <guest42> So, I dunno how to fix that.
[05:49] <cci[RR] us> ok...
[05:49] <nickrud> mitrovarr, easyubuntu,
[05:49] <mitrovarr> ok
[05:49] <nickrud> if any
[05:49] <Zambezi> I just have to make this clear. Xfce uses less memory than Ubuntu and KDE?
[05:49] <cci[RR] us> but im refering to a better BT frondend
[05:49] <mitrovarr> just checking since last time I brought up automatix and you guys acted like I'd installed leprosy on my computer or something
[05:49] <[Ex0r] > guest42, asks for password when connecting to the ftp server, or starting it ?
[05:49] <Zambezi> I just have to make this clear. Xfce uses less memory than *Gnome and KDE?
[05:49] <blacktears> hey anyone know a good p2p program for linux
[05:49] <newbuntu> apollon!
[05:49] <cci[RR] us> BitTorrent? :D
[05:49] <guest42> When connecting to the server
[05:49] <CarlFK> blacktears: gnutella
[05:49] <hawkaloogie> blacktears, frostwire supposed to be good
[05:49] <guest42> Asks for username, which should be 'nobody'
[05:49] <newbuntu> apollon with gift plugins
[05:50] <mitrovarr> thanks guys
[05:50] <nickrud> mitrovarr, eh, yyeah, it gets that way sometimes, but good software trickles to the top
[05:50] <Syco54645> can anyone plrease give me a hand with the mkv codec in dapper?  it seems to be broken ever since i have upgraded
[05:50] <guest42> and then a password, but it shouldn't need one, according the the config file
[05:50] <blacktears> ok, so which is better
[05:50] <majd_> hey
[05:50] <blacktears> or more popular
[05:50] <guest42> So, I tried just hitting enter, and it fails to log in
[05:50] <majd_> anyone get Synergy working?
[05:50] <CarlFK> what is the name of the xorg source package?  (xorg gavem me something that compiled in 39 seconds), so I dont think that is it)
[05:50] <newbuntu> bittorrent, gift, gnutella
[05:50] <[Ex0r] > guest42, it's gotta be a username that exists
[05:50] <nickrud> blacktears, true too. But we hope that value will override popularity over time
[05:51] <cci[RR] us> aMule
[05:51] <blacktears> yes yes
[05:51] <newbuntu> apollon lets you search fasttrack (kazaa), openft, gnutella, and others
[05:51] <blacktears> well then which one is better?
[05:51] <guest42> Hmm
[05:51] <guest42> Hold on
[05:51] <nickrud> and since I've never used either , I think they both suck
[05:51] <newbuntu> what do you mean?
[05:51] <varsendagger> hey i have a fresh breezy install how should i go about upgrading to dapper.   ( no cdrom or else i would do it the cool way
[05:51] <delrio> is seveas still involved in ubuntu?
[05:51] <[Ex0r] > guest42, try logging in with a user account that exists on the machine (use the password as well)
[05:51] <newbuntu> for albums.. use bit torrent, for single songs use apollon or gnutella
[05:51] <nickrud> delrio, oy, vey, yes
[05:52] <delrio> ok thanks nickrud
[05:52] <DShepherd> varsendagger: sudo update-manager #that should work...
[05:52] <delrio> nickrud what happened to bob2 ?
[05:52] <[Ex0r] > for single songs I use frostwire, which connects to the gnutella network
[05:52] <lightstar> varsendagger, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change all reference from breezy to dapper; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[05:52] <DShepherd> varsendagger: or gksudo update-manager #that should work...
[05:52] <blacktears> then frostwire?
[05:52] <nickrud> delmar, I miss him, and ask whoever I can
[05:52] <bean_> is there a gnome equivalent of apollon?
[05:52] <pvd> how do you change the default window manager in gnome again?  im looking in the help section where it use to have it.
[05:52] <Amarant1> ceratinly
[05:53] <guest42> It still says login failed
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > you know, what I don't understand. If they want to stop p2p sharing, why not go after the gnutella network, instead of just a single p2p client?
[05:53] <varsendagger> lightstar, would the DShepherd method work too ?
[05:53] <nickrud> delrio, erm, see above :)
[05:53] <lightstar> varsendagger, sorry not familiar with that
[05:53] <guest42> Maybe I still gotta specify that user name in my config file?
[05:53] <xenex> Should I download this video driver for my card? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
[05:53] <DShepherd> varsendagger: i hope so... but if it does go with lightstar way
[05:53] <delrio> see what nickrud? i dont understand?
[05:53] <[Ex0r] > guest42, nope, once proftpd is started, you should be able to log right in with a username/password on the system
[05:54] <DShepherd> s/does/doesnt*
[05:54] <newbuntu> does howdy-dowdy have wooden balls?
[05:54] <varsendagger> DShepherd, how did you do it?
[05:54] <guest42> Hmm...
[05:54] <lightstar> DShepherd, varsendagger, don't see a reason why it won't work though
[05:54] <newbuntu> apt-get install womens-lib
[05:54] <nickrud> delrio, a miss paste on my part. I haven't seen bob2 for many months.
[05:55] <blacktears> okay frostwire, where do i get this?
[05:55] <DShepherd> varsendagger: I did it lightstar's way.. but "gksudo update-manager -d" without the quotes should work
[05:55] <delrio> ok thanks nickrud
[05:55] <[Ex0r] > blacktears, frostwire.com or frostwire.org
[05:55] <guest42> I had assumed (never having set up FTP before) that you specified accounts in the configuration unrelated to local accounts that let people log in.
[05:55] <guest42> But, I dunno what I'm doing.
[05:55] <nickrud> delrio, I do miss him
[05:55] <guest42> In any case, I can't even log in with my name
[05:55] <guest42> So, I'll have to check it out
[05:55] <guest42> Thanks though
[05:55] <blacktears> thanls
[05:55] <blacktears> thanks
[05:55] <delrio> nickrud me too he was an important part of ubuntu
[05:56] <nickrud> delrio, yeah, he defined this channel. It still bears his imprint
[05:56] <CarlFK> guest42: the ftp server needs a place to read/write files, which ties into local filesystem dirs and rights
[05:57] <delrio> well from my exposure to ubuntu it was alot of people who showed me the way. seveas was one 2. i forget everyone now. anyway nite :)
[05:57] <newbuntu> why can you run executables on remote-desktop and even delete files... but not copy them over to the desktop your on?
[05:57] <varsendagger> what does lts mean?
[05:57] <guest42> I see.
[05:57] <xenex> varsendagger: Long term support.
[05:57] <majd_> i'm trying to get libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3 but i can't find it in synaptic
[05:57] <varsendagger> newbieme, try scp
[05:58] <majd_> how could i get it?
[05:58] <newbuntu> okay im looking into it
[05:58] <varsendagger> majd_, what are you trying to install ?
[05:58] <nickrud> delrio, heh. Seveas, useful dude as well.
[05:58] <majd_> varsendagger, synergy
[05:59] <CarlFK> newbuntu: you can, there are many ways - 'best' depends on why you want to do it
[05:59] <CarlFK> newbuntu: do you have any windows box on you lan?
[05:59] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  I recently setup AIGLX on my X40 Thinkpad and it works wonderfully!  However, upon waking from sleep all the graphics on the screen are just monochrome squares.  Any idea how to fix this?
[06:00] <varsendagger> majd_, have you tride to apt-get it?
[06:00] <majd_> varsendagger, Building dependency tree... Done
[06:00] <majd_> E: Couldn't find package libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[06:00] <DShepherd> ficusplanet: have you tried asking in #ubuntu-xgl?
[06:00] <ikki> !edgy
[06:00] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[06:00] <ficusplanet> DShepherd: No, I wasn't aware that room existed.  Thanks.
[06:01] <DShepherd> ficusplanet:yw
[06:01] <varsendagger> DShepherd, ubuntu-base not found
[06:02] <guest42> Okay, I got it now. It's workin' Thanks for your help
[06:02] <detectiveinspekt> I can't connect to my ssh-server outside my network but can do it on the lan
[06:02] <DR_K13> sup isajeeps
[06:02] <newbuntu> carlFK i was busy for a sec, i only have ubuntu at bothe ends
[06:02] <newbuntu> do i need scp at bothe ends?
[06:03] <blacktears> okay i got frostwire
[06:03] <blacktears> and i click on the launcher
[06:03] <blacktears> and nothing
[06:03] <newbuntu> ./configure?
[06:03] <newbuntu> was it a zip?
[06:03] <CarlFK> newbuntu: no - you need openssh-server on one side and the client on the other, but ...
[06:03] <nomasteryoda|w> !mplayer
[06:03] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[06:03] <Fiyawerx> hey guys, whats the difference between the live cd and the dvd versions? other than 3 gigs
[06:03] <DShepherd> varsendagger: install ubuntu-base
[06:03] <blacktears> no i use kpackage which does everything
[06:03] <teckfatt> hello, anyone know where is the network setting file located at? after setup the networking using UI, where is the file record all the setting....thank you
[06:04] <CarlFK> newbuntu: but I would just install openssh-server on both sides so you can copy from/to ether box w
[06:04] <DShepherd> varsendagger: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-base
[06:04] <newbuntu> thanks alot
[06:04] <gdb> teckfatt: /etc/network/interfaces
[06:05] <CarlFK> newbuntu: but... scp is handy for using the scp command.  you may want to lok into nfs (netwrok file system) that is a more formal file server
[06:05] <blacktears> could someone help me out with this?
[06:05] <varsendagger> DShepherd, it can't find it
[06:05] <nich0s> Anyone want to take a stab at why Ubuntu doesn't come with a apt that can handle the cc command? Or tell me where I can get my hands on a proggie that will?
[06:06] <blacktears> or give me another p2p program i could use
[06:06] <paul_> Has anyone else had the problem with panels crashing when opening applications from alt-F2 command line?
[06:06] <dr_willis> nich0s,  huh?
[06:06] <nickrud> nich0s, sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[06:06] <xenex> Should I download this video driver for my card? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8762.html
[06:06] <teckfatt> gdb: alright thank you so much.....btw do u what to type for the <DNS Servers> <follow by IP> on /etc/network/interfaces
[06:07] <CarlFK> xenex:  no - sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:07] <gdb> teckfatt: DNS servers don't go in /etc/network/interfaces, they go in /etc/resolv.conf.  Is that what you're trying to configure?
[06:07] <nich0s> nickrud: Let me give that a try,
[06:07] <xenex> CarlFK: Yeah but my openGL or whatever doesn't work. http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6320/guildwars9um.png
[06:07] <nich0s> nickrud: I would kiss you if you didn't have my first name :P
[06:08] <varsendagger> DShepherd, this is so wierd i can't apt-cache search ubuntu-base
[06:08] <CarlFK> xenex: /join #ubuntu-glx
[06:08] <Chris_C> Somebody please help me before I put a bullet in my head ...
[06:08] <xenex> CarlFK: no such channel
[06:08] <DShepherd> varsendagger: ?? really hmm.
[06:08] <Chris_C> I'm trying to burn a folder of files to a blank DVD-RW disc ...
[06:08] <nickrud> nich0s, it gets you gcc, make, and a couple other essential things, and my name is acutally rudnick, the nick stands for nick rude, and I try to live up to it :)
[06:08] <DShepherd> varsendagger: what do you mean by you cant.?
[06:09] <Chris_C> and it always says I don't have enough space (it's only 1.4 GB)
[06:09] <DShepherd> varsendagger: you are not finding anything?
[06:09] <blacktears> frostwire is pissing me off
[06:09] <Chris_C> this is in nautilus
[06:09] <teckfatt> gdb: i'm having a problem, when i restart my com, i need to retype the DNS server for my static ip
[06:09] <newbuntu> CarlFK i managed to get openssh-server on both now, whats the next step?
[06:09] <blacktears> i dont know if its not working or just taking forever to load
[06:09] <nich0s> nickrud: *kisses you*  You asked for it.
[06:09] <CarlFK> xenex: hmm.. what is the name...
[06:09] <varsendagger> yeah not finding anythign i went into sources.list and uncommented all the repos
[06:09] <xenex> CarlFK: The name of what?
[06:09] <teckfatt> gdb: what are u suggestion? thank you anyways
[06:09] <CarlFK> newbuntu: what is the name of a file, and the IP of your other box?
[06:09] <gdb> teckfatt: Have you used the Networks control panel?  Or are you looking to edit the config file by hand?
[06:09] <nickrud> nich0s, thanks :)
[06:09] <CarlFK> xenex: hmm.. what is the name... of the  #ubuntu-glx channel
[06:10] <xenex> CarlFK: How would I know? :x
[06:10] <gdb> teckfatt: System -> Administration -> Networking is the control panel you can use.
[06:10] <varsendagger> maybe it is ubuntu-minimal?
[06:10] <CarlFK> i wuz hopoing someone would chime in
[06:10] <ali> i want to share internet connection between two of my network cards
[06:10] <ali> i mean one is for local and one for internet
[06:10] <ali> how to share it ?
[06:11] <ali> i dont want to use firewall like firestarter to share it
[06:11] <teckfatt> gdb: yes i;m using tat networking control panel.....but it remove the DNS server IP after i restart com
[06:11] <Chris_C> how do you all burn data to DVD-RW's?
[06:11] <teckfatt> gdb: so i'm thinking of manual edit
[06:11] <teckfatt> gdb: so i'm thinking of edit by hand
[06:11] <bimberi> Chris_C: using the file manager (nautilus)
[06:11] <CarlFK> Chris_C: I use growisofs
[06:12] <gdb> teckfatt: Well, that's the file it's editing, though.  Are you sure you're using a static?  Can you paste your /etc/network/interfaces file to a pastebin?
[06:12] <me2win> anyone here play WoW?
[06:12] <bimberi> Chris_C: do you copy and paste the folder to Go -> CD/DVD Creator ?
[06:12] <Chris_C> alas, nautilus is killing me.  It says my blank DVD-RW disc doesn't have enough room for 1.4 GB of data.
[06:12] <[Ex0r] > me2win, I used to.
[06:13] <newbuntu> CarlFK  24.67.196.156      /home/sara/Sara's Tunes/Beatles. The/Abbey Road/01 Come Together.mp3
[06:13] <CarlFK> ali - I think it is a simple switch /proc/forward ? and maybe a routing entry - and then you need to set the gateway IP of the other boses
[06:13] <teckfatt> auto eth1
[06:13] <teckfatt> iface eth1 inet static
[06:13] <teckfatt> address 192.168.1.18
[06:13] <teckfatt> netmask 255.255.255.0
[06:13] <teckfatt> gateway 192.168.1.1
[06:13] <teckfatt> wireless-essid 43smd
[06:13] <varsendagger> DShepherd, maybe it is working now
[06:13] <Chris_C> bimberi: since I'm burning files that have root ownership, I did a "sudo nautilus", and then did a copy and paste of the folder, then clicked the big "Write to Disc" button
[06:13] <teckfatt> gdb: auto eth1
[06:13] <teckfatt> iface eth1 inet static
[06:13] <teckfatt> address 192.168.1.18
[06:13] <teckfatt> netmask 255.255.255.0
[06:13] <teckfatt> gateway 192.168.1.1
[06:13] <teckfatt> wireless-essid 43smd
[06:13] <CarlFK> newbuntu: scp "/home/sara/Sara's Tunes/Beatles. The/Abbey Road/01 Come Together.mp3" 24.67.196.156 :
[06:13] <me2win> [Ex0r] : is there any playtime included when you buy the game?
[06:14] <[Ex0r] > me2win, IIRC, it comes with 30 days free
[06:14] <bimberi> teckfatt: please don't do that
[06:14] <ali> CarlFK do i need to rite like this   "/proc/forward ....
[06:14] <me2win> [Ex0r] : cool, thanks
[06:14] <teckfatt> bimberi: k
[06:14] <bimberi> !paste
[06:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:14] <CarlFK> newbuntu: that will drop the file in the other boxes's users' home dir  (I am assuming the same username on both boxes)
[06:15] <Chris_C> wah
[06:15] <Hobbsee> next one who does it, someone call ops.
[06:15] <CarlFK> ali - here are my notes from about 10 years ago: http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/linux/cmr/
[06:15] <bimberi> Chris_C: hm, that seems ok to me, not sure what the issue is :/
[06:16] <ali> Thanks CarlFK
[06:16] <ali> CarlFK, u are cool 10year you must be guru in linux ;)
[06:16] <CarlFK> ali - well, it was only last week that I installed Linux on my main box....
[06:17] <CarlFK> got pizzet at win one too many times
[06:17] <Dial_tone> I've been using freebsd almost 10 yrs and I'm still pretty clueless :)
[06:17] <varsendagger> could someone do an apt-cahce search ubuntu-base for me?
[06:17] <CarlFK> Dial_tone: you and me both
[06:17] <gdb> Hobbsee: Ah, he was a newbie and didn't seem to know any better and indicated that he understood he's not to do it again.  Let's show a little more ubuntu, eh? ;-)
[06:17] <deitarion2> What's the procedure for setting a login splash screen under Ubuntu? My friend's asked me to help him and I only know Gentoo.
[06:18] <varsendagger> cache
[06:18] <Dial_tone> my main problem is I read the docs just enough to get something working, but never enough to master it
[06:18] <Hobbsee> gdb: how hard is it for people to read a topic?  and i keep hearing people say "oh, i saw people pasting before, so thought it was acceptable to paste"
[06:18] <bimberi> !splash > deitarion2
[06:18] <nickrud> deitarion2, for login gksudo gdmsetup
[06:19] <nickrud> rflmao, expecting people to actually read the topic
[06:19] <Hobbsee> nickrud: yeah, i know.
[06:19] <telliott> Hello.  I'm a newbie running 6.06 (live CD)
[06:19] <Dial_tone> is there a default keycombo to switch virtual desktops in gnome?
[06:19] <CarlFK> ali - DON'T use that on your box.  i just relaized that it uses some very outdated things - you want iptables now
[06:19] <nickrud> Hobbsee, I gave up
[06:19] <thrice`> ctrl + alt + num should work
[06:19] <bimberi> Dial_tone: ctrl-alt-left and right works too
[06:20] <thrice`> otherwise you can set them
[06:20] <gdb> Hobbsee: Well, you never know.  I just try to keep in mind that the only folks up on regular IRC netiquette are those that are regulars on IRC.  If someone's new, I let oversights slide.  But that's me. :-)
[06:20] <Dial_tone> ahh, thank you
[06:20] <nickrud> and if any place overlooks, this is it
[06:20] <gdb> I do hope he's able to get his networking issue solves.
[06:20] <gdb> solved*
[06:21] <ali> CarlFK, iptables where can i get that ?
[06:21] <varsendagger> gdb,  could someone do an apt-cache search ubuntu-base for me?
[06:21] <ali> CarlFK, i am trying this for the first time ;)
[06:21] <nickrud> Hobbsee, have you seen ompaul's signoff recently?
[06:21] <varsendagger> and tell me what you get
[06:21] <Hobbsee> gdb: true...i kinda just wanted to make an example - particularly with what i'd heard before, about people saying "oh, i saw all these people do it, it's fine for me to paste 30 lines in a busy channel too"
[06:21] <nickrud> I have stolen it
[06:21] <gdb> varsendagger:  ubuntu-base - The Ubuntu base system (transitional package) -- this one?
[06:22] <varsendagger> yeah
[06:22] <telliott> Can I save my settings running the live CD?
[06:22] <Hobbsee> nickrud: yeah i did :)
[06:22] <varsendagger> why can't i find it?
[06:22] <Chris_C> when nautilus burns a disc, does anyone know if/where on the hard drive it creates a temporary image of what it's about to burn?
[06:22] <gdb> varsendagger: I don't know, I'd suspect it's in main and marked required.
[06:22] <nickrud> doggerell, but appropriate
[06:22] <varsendagger> gdb, do you run breezy or dapper
[06:22] <varsendagger> i am upgrading
[06:23] <teckfatt> gdb: sorry DC just now.....what is ur suggestion? how to edit the DNS server by hand?
[06:23] <gdb> varsendagger: I run Dapper.
[06:23] <varsendagger> i should just do the source >> dapper dist upgrad
[06:23] <cef> varsendagger: sounds like your sources are at fault
[06:23] <raiinstorm> guys I know everyone says that its such a security issue but I don't care.  How do I give read/write/execute access to new files and all old files?   I hate having my access denied.
[06:24] <gdb> teckfatt: Well, I wanted to make sure that you're not having your settings clobbered by dhclient, but you do seem to have your interface set as static.  Do you have other interfaces other than eth1 defined in there?
[06:24] <thrice`> no, that is a terrible idea
[06:24] <Chris_C> ugh
[06:24] <thrice`> raiinstorm: noone in here will tell you how to do that.  It is a terribel idea, and will ruin your install
[06:24] <raiinstorm> yes I realize that.  I'm not that much of an idiot.
[06:24] <thrice`> you would know how to do it if you weren't
[06:24] <CarlFK> ali - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[06:24] <varsendagger> cef, or anyone could you show me your dapper source.list?
[06:24] <thrice`> !sources
[06:24] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:25] <varsendagger> !easysource
[06:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:25] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i change the default port for apache2?
[06:25] <raiinstorm> thanks a lot thrice.   I'm actually not an idiot.  Just because I don't know everything about Linux.  I don't see why files can't be accessed easier.
[06:25] <lightstar> roostishaw, edit the httpd.conf and change the ListenAddress
[06:25] <nickrud> what happened to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666, great sources
[06:26] <mikere> raiinstorm: chmod from the command line
[06:26] <roostishaw> lightstar, thank you!
[06:26] <lightstar> roostishaw, np
[06:26] <teckfatt> gdb: i show u my whole /etc/network/interfaces
[06:26] <mikere> raiinstorm: chmod +x * for all files in current directory to be executable
[06:26] <thrice`> raiinstorm: because perms are set for a reason
[06:26] <thrice`> and sudo is there for a reason
[06:26] <CarlFK> raiinstorm: some things in linux check for loose permessions and stop wroking, so you don't want to just do that
[06:26] <telliott> Can I save my settings running the live CD?  I have a thumb drive.
[06:26] <wasabi> raiinstorm: What files?
[06:27] <thrice`> sudo can help you out quite a bit
[06:27] <roostishaw> lightstar, um... actually, where would i find httpd.conf?
[06:27] <gdb> teckfatt: Please use the webpage http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ to do that.
[06:27] <detectiveinspekt> do I have to forward UTP for a ssh server?
[06:27] <nickrud> raiinstorm, it's all about preserving your system, against whatever. You must have reasonable rights to change those files
[06:27] <lightstar> roostishaw, /etc/apache2 if i recall correctly
[06:27] <mikere> raiinstorm: what files in particular do you need to give permissions to?
[06:27] <lightstar> roostishaw, though in ubuntu the config is diff
[06:27] <cef> detectiveinspekt: ssh uses TCP port 22
[06:27] <gdb> raiinstorm: Use sudo with your commands or run sudo -i when you need to do a lot of work as root.
[06:27] <bimberi> roostishaw: /etc/apache2/httpd.conf - but i think the file you're looking for is /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[06:28] <roostishaw> lightstar, hmm, got it. but thats odd how the search didn't find it... thx anyway
[06:28] <cef> detectiveinspekt: however, the server of course may need to resolve DNS names, which uses a combination of 53 TCP and UDP
[06:28] <ali> thanks CarlFK
[06:28] <detectiveinspekt> when I try to connect to my server outside it says wrong pwsd, but inside its fine
[06:28] <teckfatt> gdb: ok tz
[06:28] <cef> detectiveinspekt: but you shouldn't need to forward them explicity with a normal NAT firewall.
[06:28] <raiinstorm> I want to give permission to old tars I have on here, old files which got downloaded as a user I've since deleted and it drives me insane when I can't just access those files.  Nothing having to do with system things, just general files.
[06:29] <wasabi> raiinstorm: As root, just grant permissions using chown/chmod.
[06:29] <CarlFK> raiinstorm: that's much different :)
[06:29] <b1rken> Hello, i have som problem accessing my drives from Ubuntu (Running via VMware), can someone help me?
[06:29] <nickrud> raiinstorm, chown those files to the owner you want to be owned by
[06:29] <detectiveinspekt> but If I had two servers connected to the router how would they know which one?
[06:29] <b1rken> I want to listen / play the movies in Ubuntu, from the drives i can normally access in Windows XP
[06:29] <thrice`> of
[06:29] <thrice`> er
[06:30] <thrice`> for example, chown -R rain:users /home/rain/downloads
[06:30] <teckfatt> gdb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16591
[06:30] <thrice`> will give rain access to /home/rain/downloads
[06:30] <CarlFK> detectiveinspekt: if it is really a 'router', you will connect to the IP of the box,but I am guessing it is more than just a router
[06:31] <gdb> teckfatt: You using a WRT54G wireless router for this connection?  Or something similar?
[06:31] <teckfatt> gdb: yes i'm using wrt54Gx , similar with wrt54g
[06:32] <varsendagger> ahh i'm going in for a dapper upgrade
[06:32] <gdb> teckfatt: Can you please use that same website to show the output of /sbin/ifconfig -a ?
[06:33] <ttongfly_> 
[06:33] <newbuntu> CarlFK  im trying to login to my home system using ssh, what is the command to login to to my home box where the user name is aloon and the ip is 24.blah blah
[06:33] <newbuntu> the user name is different then the one im on
[06:33] <Dial_tone> ssh user@hostip
[06:33] <CarlFK> newbuntu: ssh aloon@24.bla..
[06:34] <b1rken> I want to listen / play the movies in Ubuntu, from the drives i can normally access in Windows XP
[06:34] <nickrud> good night all
[06:34] <newbuntu> can you put the ip instraf of hostname?
[06:34] <b1rken> How can i access shared folders (Windows) in ubuntu?
[06:34] <newbuntu> instwad..
[06:34] <CarlFK> newbuntu: ssh aloon@24.bla.. <-IP ;)
[06:34] <newbuntu> dang keyboard
[06:34] <noiesmo> !smb
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about smb
[06:34] <newbuntu> thx
[06:34] <noiesmo> !samba
[06:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:34] <roostishaw> how do i resatart apache?
[06:35] <teckfatt> gdb: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d16593
[06:35] <polpak> roostishaw: /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[06:35] <noiesmo> roostishaw,  sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart
[06:35] <polpak> roostishaw: or that
[06:35] <roostishaw> sudo: /etc/init.d/httpd: command not found
[06:36] <roostishaw> same with apache
[06:36] <ttongfly_> do it command "apachectl restart"
[06:36] <newbuntu> carl thanks ! a lot.. im in there
[06:36] <gdb> teckfatt: And what is happening in your /etc/resolv.conf file when you restart your machine?
[06:36] <polpak> roostishaw: you sure apache's installed?
[06:36] <bimberi> roostishaw: put the 2 in :)
[06:36] <roostishaw> polpak, yes. im sure
[06:36] <roostishaw> ahh, right
[06:36] <nightstalker07> does anyone know of any errors with usplash....upon boot, my laptop just displays a black screen up to the login screen?...thanx
[06:36] <roostishaw> there we go, thx
[06:36] <teckfatt> gdb: i try now
[06:36] <CarlFK> newbuntu: yipee!
[06:37] <newbuntu> now i just need to figure out how to commsnd line copy files from a to b
[06:37] <newbuntu> doh
[06:37] <polpak> nightstalker07: you probably need to change the framebuffer args in your menu.lst
[06:37] <newbuntu> : )
[06:37] <CarlFK> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:37] <polpak> newbuntu: cp file1 /path/to/directory/.
[06:38] <Paladine> who's up for a bit of a challenge?
[06:38] <Paladine> I have two problems that are really starting to get my goat
[06:38] <nightstalker07> polpak: where do i find that in the file?...i'm a n00b
[06:38] <newbuntu> if sara is uder name on the box im on can I type  cp file1/sara/home  or do i need to put in the sara@196 blah blah?
[06:39] <polpak> nightstalker07: what's the resolution on your laptop?
[06:39] <newbuntu> user
[06:39] <polpak> newbuntu: you can use sudo cp file1 /home/sara/.
[06:39] <polpak> newbuntu: but you'll probably want to chown it also
[06:39] <newbuntu> okay thanks so much
[06:39] <nightstalker07> polpak: 1280x800
[06:40] <newbuntu> linux community is very helpful..
[06:40] <polpak> nightstalker07: well you can try a couple of things.. Lemme check
[06:40] <lufis> Is anyone else having trouble with checkinstall?
[06:40] <dr_willis> it pays to read up on the fundamentals of Bash and shell ussage. :)
[06:41] <Paladine> can anyon come up with any solutions for these 2 issues please - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204415
[06:42] <nothingman> having a strange problem where my three-head worked under Breezy and now doesn't under Dapper upgrade
[06:42] <DR_K13> #neowinlinux
[06:42] <teckfatt> gdb: yup, nothing there after restart....and after i setup the DNS server ip, the /etc/resolv.conf show the nameserver <ipaddress>
[06:42] <DR_K13> join /#neowinlinux
[06:43] <Flippy209> ic56: you around
[06:43] <bthornton> semi n00b question: where does the kernel source get installed when I install the kernel source deb through synaptic?
[06:43] <bthornton> 'cause it's not in  /usr/src/
[06:44] <dr_willis> What kernel source deb?
[06:44] <gdb> teckfatt: Well, I have no idea what could possibly be changing it if you're not using a dhcp connection... hrm.   Well, what you might try doing is setting up your DNS servers and running the command 'sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf' to set the immutable bit on the file.  This is *very* ghetto and it's best to figure out why it's being clobbered in the first place.
[06:45] <bthornton> dr_willis: linux-source
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> after upgrading to dapper, my emacs only displays squares instead of fonts...
[06:45] <dr_willis> !info linux-source
[06:45] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[06:45] <polpak> nightstalker07: ok, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:45] <InvisiblePinkUni> !emacs
[06:45] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[06:45] <newbuntu> how do you cp a whole directory in commandline?
[06:45] <Hmmmm> anyone have any experience setting up gforge on ubuntu?
[06:45] <dr_willis> package size 22 kB ? That seems.. to me - to not be the source code for the kernel.
[06:45] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, like this you mean http://www,paladine.org.uk/funky-saveas-dialog.jpg  ???
[06:46] <bthornton> dr_willis: yes, but linux-source depends on linux-source-[kernel version] , which contains the "stock" source.
[06:46] <dr_willis> !bash
[06:46] <xanza> lkj
[06:46] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:46] <teckfatt> gdb: ic, thank you so much for ur time....i will have a try
[06:46] <dr_willis> bthornton,  fire up synaptic and see what files it put where.
[06:46] <bthornton> or contains something big, because it just downloaded 44 MB
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: yup... like that
[06:46] <polpak> newbuntu:  cp -r /source/path  /destination/path/.
[06:46] <newbuntu> thanks polpak
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: what do i do?
[06:46] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, if you figure ou how to fix it, give me a shout :)
[06:46] <gdb> teckfatt: Ah, no worries, I wouldn't thank me, I've not really given you a solution, merely a work around.  If you want to change DNS information in the future, you'll have to run 'sudo chattr -i /etc/resolv.conf' first to remove the immutable bit.
[06:46] <bthornton> dr_willis: I have, and according to that, there should be a: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15.tar.bz2
[06:46] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: D'oh
[06:46] <bthornton> but there is nothing in /usr/src
[06:47] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, its been bugging the crap out of me for a week now
[06:47] <gdb> teckfatt: That "immutable" bit tells the kernel that absolutely nothing is allowed to make changes to that file, no matter if it's run as root or not.
[06:47] <Paladine> it is a locale issue
[06:47] <polpak> teckfatt: you can configure your computer to not recieve updates to DNS severs from DHCP
[06:47] <Paladine> but I have had zero success fixing it so far
[06:47] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: the funny thing is, emacs works fine in the terminal window
[06:47] <gdb> polpak: The interface is configured as a static, that's the confusing part of his issue.
[06:48] <polpak> gdb: hrm.. that makes no sense then
[06:48] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, something funky with xlib and locales
[06:48] <nightstalker07> polpak: would you like me to pastebin my menu.lst file
[06:48] <CarlFK> polpak: isn't there a line you can put in /etc/network/interfaces to override dhcp options (like dns?
[06:48] <Paladine> that image was my Sae As dialog from any Open Office app
[06:48] <gdb> polpak: Yes, 'iface eth1 inet static' is in his /etc/network/interfaces file.
[06:48] <Paladine> all other dialogs are fine
[06:48] <Paladine> just the Save As is broken
[06:48] <Xanza> can anyone point me to a tut on how start my own irc server
[06:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: for me the whole thing is broken... not just the save dialog box.....
[06:49] <gdb> polpak: It's a wireless connection to a linksys router so I'm wondering if that's an avenue for a solution, but I don't have any wireless Linux connections here to play with.
[06:49] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: right from the starting screen
[06:49] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I am getting random issues system wide which seem to be all linked to the same problem
[06:49] <Hobbsee> teckfatt: sorry about the kick - but *please* dont paste in here
[06:50] <Paladine> same as the stupid tk "Black" error
[06:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: definitely some bug somewhere... me am new to linux so... not sure whats wrong... just hunting around the net for a solution
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> I've never used xchat what's it used for
[06:50] <polpak> nightstalker07: nah.. you can just add vga=789 to your kernel options
[06:50] <InvisiblePinkUni> cmcgeecc: its IRC client
[06:50] <CarlFK> cmcgeecc: hi - welcome to IRC - what xchat is for :)
[06:50] <polpak> nightstalker07: right after the splash option
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> ok
[06:50] <cmcgeecc> lol
[06:51] <polpak> nightstalker07: just be sure to backup the file first
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> thanks
[06:51] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I am not new (been using *nix on and off for about 12 years) but I am not an expert either.  This particular problem is driving me nuts
[06:51] <teckfatt> Hobbsee: is ok,..
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> what's IRC?
[06:51] <cmcgeecc> lol
[06:51] <nightstalker07> polpak: i don't see where the splash option is
[06:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: hehehe :p
[06:51] <polpak> nightstalker07: you see the lines starting with kernel    /boot/......
[06:51] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: will stick to gedit then
[06:52] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: will reinstalling emacs solve anything?
[06:52] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, I can't use gedit, it dumps funky characters in
[06:52] <nightstalker07> polpak: yes
[06:52] <polpak> nightstalker07: add vga=789 to the end of the first one of those
[06:52] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, which I suspect is also related to the locale issue
[06:52] <polpak> nightstalker07: with a space between that and the splash option
[06:52] <Paladine> I have had to use nano for everything
[06:53] <InvisiblePinkUni> oh... ok... so the locale issue must be fixed....
[06:53] <teckfatt> polpak: can i know how to configure the com not to receive the DNS server update?
[06:53] <InvisiblePinkUni> Paladine: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77591 does that make any difference?
[06:54] <nightstalker07> polpak: thanx let me just log in as root and i'll give it a shot.....see ya in a few
[06:54] <jherm> does anyone know why there isn't a current source package for the latest version of libdbus-1-2 [0.60-6ubuntu9] ? it seems silly to downgrade dbus just to be able to install the source package. please see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16596
[06:54] <polpak> teckfatt: if you edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[06:55] <CarlFK> teckfatt: man interfaces (maybe..., I am skimming it)
[06:55] <Paladine> InvisiblePinkUni, you can try it, that won't fix my problem though
[06:55] <CarlFK> ah, I bet that;s it
[06:55] <dts> how do i completely reset an MySQL database including usernames etc, so it's as if it was just installed for thefirst time?
[06:55] <polpak> teckfatt: you can remove the option to the request line that says domain-name-servers
[06:55] <crimsun> jherm: in Edgy?
[06:55] <jherm> dapper
[06:56] <crimsun> jherm: Dapper has 0.60-6ubuntu8.
[06:56] <jherm> odd
[06:56] <CarlFK> teckfatt: man dhclient.conf - "In  some  cases, a client may receive option data from the server which     is not really appropriate for that client, ...
[06:56] <teckfatt> polpak: ic, thank you
[06:57] <jherm> so i guess downgrading dbus doesn't seem like a bad anyways
[06:57] <crimsun> jherm: where did you get 0.60-6ubuntu9?
[06:57] <teckfatt> CarlFK: ic....thanz
[06:57] <polpak> teckfatt: though it really shouldn't be using it if it's defined statically
[06:57] <jherm> is there a command that will tell me which repository it will be downloaded from, or what depends on it? i might be able to determine what broke it
[06:58] <jherm> aptitude didn't say anything would break if i did the downgrade, so, erm, hrm.
[06:58] <crimsun> jherm: apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2
[06:58] <Paladine> crimsun did you manage tohave a look at my audio problem?
[06:58] <Dralid> I'm having problems with Azureus, it is impossible to close the popup windows
[06:58] <jherm> it says under 0.60-6ubuntu9
[06:58] <jherm> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: no, I miss everything not addressed directly to me at the beginning of the link
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: s/link/line/
[06:59] <dr_willis> Dralid,  seen that issue befor.. not sure about the detauls however. I think it was related to some sun/java issue.
[06:59] <Paladine> crimsun - here is the issue if you get a chance - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204030
[06:59] <crimsun> Paladine: I'll look in a few minutes
[07:00] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks man
[07:00] <crimsun> jherm: what does the changelog say?
[07:00] <jherm> crimsun, thank you also
[07:00] <jherm> changelog? should i be looking at that particular file it pointed to
[07:01] <teckfatt> gdb: do u know where is the file tat save the location on the network control panel? i have create fill of location just wanna know where the file is...] 
[07:01] <crimsun> jherm: zless /usr/share/doc/libdbus-1-2/changelog.Debian.gz
[07:01] <crimsun> jherm: what's the entry for 0.60-6ubuntu9?
[07:02] <jherm> crimsun: mind if i message you?
[07:02] <gdb> teckfatt: The network control panel edits /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf -- it edits some others as well, but that's not relavent to your issue.
[07:02] <crimsun> jherm: I prefer to keep it in-channel if you don't mind, since queries notify me
[07:02] <jherm> ok i'll put it up on the paste board
[07:04] <zF> What's the easiest way to transfer files between two networked Ubuntu PCs
[07:04] <teckfatt> gdb: yes, i just curios where the file save the 'location' data
[07:04] <wasabi> The network.
[07:04] <crimsun> Paladine: pastebin ``cat /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc*''
[07:04] <spades> zF rsync or scp?
[07:05] <jherm> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16597
[07:05] <gdb> teckfatt: Oh, as in profile information for Home, Office, Traveling, and so on.  I don't know, to be honest.
[07:05] <zF> spades, thanks. I figured scp but just wanted to hear what other people had to say
[07:05] <spades> zf i would do rsync personally
[07:05] <speirs> i have a x700 agp on a desktop. ati 3d driver works fine. but i cant use virtual terminal ctrl alt fn. kinda frustrating..
[07:06] <Kazukisan> How do i stop firefox from opening .wma and .wmv Files in totem !! ?
[07:06] <harisund> does dapper rely on /etc/X11/xorg.conf for its display properties, or is that file left there for legacy purposes only and there is another video settings files in Dapper?
[07:06] <spades> Kazukisan under preferences should be actions somwhere, remove .wmv
[07:06] <crimsun> harisund: that's the X.Org conffile, yes.
[07:06] <Paladine> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16598
[07:06] <harisund> crimsun ok thank heavens..
[07:06] <h4v0k> I messed up
[07:07] <Kazukisan> spades: that did not help
[07:07] <h4v0k> now I cant unmount my floppy
[07:08] <newbuntu> U had one more question about ssh , im trying to copy some music directories over from my home machine to here, when I sudo cp -r the folder it does it doesnt give an error , but i also doesnt show up at this end
[07:08] <h4v0k> does anyone know a command to force a unmount
[07:08] <spades> Kazukisan try right clicking on the file and changing what it opens with?
[07:08] <newbuntu> I had..
[07:08] <spades> from withing a file manager
[07:08] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to convert a partition from ext2 ot ext3.  would it be best to just make a new ext3 partition and move the old stuff bit-by-bit, resizing as i go?
[07:08] <Kazukisan> spades: good idea sec
[07:08] <h4v0k> for some reason I cant open fstab with gedit
[07:08] <nightstalker07> polpak: thanks for the help, it worked
[07:08] <jherm> h4v0k: umount -f
[07:08] <ToHellWithGA> h4v0k: are you typing "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"?
[07:08] <jherm> er, hrm, nevermind
[07:08] <h4v0k> yes
[07:08] <yorty> what you talking about!!?
[07:08] <Kazukisan> spades: nvm its already set to what i want it to open with
[07:09] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: tunefs -j <device>
[07:09] <crimsun> jherm: that's not 0.60-6ubuntu9, that's 0.60-2ubuntu9
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: that's it?
[07:09] <jherm> sorry crimsun
[07:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running ?
[07:09] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: You can just add a journal and continue using it as ext3.
[07:09] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: yup, that's it, well, umount first
[07:09] <h4v0k> (gedit:8344): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid uninstantiatable type `(null)' in cast to `BonoboMDI'
[07:09] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: There is no difference between ext2 and ext3 other than the existance of a journal in ext3.
[07:09] <h4v0k> bonobo wtf
[07:09] <ToHellWithGA> but that journal is a good thing, right?
[07:09] <newbuntu> polpak whats the command to chown a directory so you can copy it?
[07:10] <Healot> better ToHellWithGA
[07:10] <yorty> oh my god !!what a poor os!!
[07:10] <gdb> ToHellWithGA: Yes, it is. :-)
[07:10] <ToHellWithGA> of course i'll unmount it first.  i don't want to break my data lol
[07:10] <Healot> yorty: not as expensive as Windows XP right?
[07:10] <crimsun> Paladine: do you use multiple sound cards?
[07:10] <Paladine> crimsun, nope just the onboard ac97 card
[07:10] <yorty> i agree with u!!
[07:10] <ToHellWithGA> is reiser established well enough that it's worth looking into?
[07:10] <Paladine> although it is showing 2 devices
[07:10] <jherm> crimsun: no entry in the changelog for 0.60-6ubuntu9
[07:10] <crimsun> Paladine: try removing ~/.asoundrc . That should cure it.
[07:10] <Paladine> I presume the second is midi
[07:10] <squiggly> I think the primary driving force behind Ubuntu is that they ship for free
[07:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone got the partypoker running ?
[07:11] <squiggly> That and the package manager
[07:11] <crimsun> Paladine: it's a known issue, and I'll try and push a fix for it into dapper-updates.
[07:11] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks I will try that now
[07:11] <yorty> hi!!~healot
[07:12] <h4v0k> jherm whatelse do i need to put in
[07:12] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: stick to ext3 would be a better choice... you can try that out though
[07:12] <crimsun> jherm: it would be at the top of the file.
[07:12] <jherm> h4v0k: i found out umount -f is only for NFS filesystems, so if thats what you're trying to forcefully unmount, use it, otherwise i'm not sure :/
[07:12] <crimsun> jherm: can you pastebin ``apt-cache policy libdbus-1-2'' please?
[07:12] <jherm> crimsun: ...ubuntu8 is at the top and theres no entry for 9. hrm. duh
[07:12] <jherm> its because i went back to the older version
[07:12] <ToHellWithGA> oh boy.  i'm getting the following. from "tune2fs -j /dev/sda1" i get "The filesystem already has a journal"
[07:13] <jherm> most likely
[07:13] <h4v0k> oh:|
[07:13] <crimsun> jherm: right, but where did you get 9?
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> should i just mount it as ext3 when i remount it?
[07:13] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: it's an ext3 then
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> i made it as ext2
[07:13] <Paladine> crimsun, that is almost working, I am getting nothing on center or LFER now, but front and back are all working
[07:13] <crimsun> jherm: I can't see 9 anywhere in our archive.
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> i do know that ubuntu tried to automatically mount it as ext3
[07:13] <Paladine> LFE sorry
[07:13] <crimsun> Paladine: good, now can you pastebin ``amixer''?
[07:13] <ToHellWithGA> would it have *made* a journal at that point?
[07:14] <[Ex0r] > anyone here know of a gui development software for PERL ?
[07:14] <jherm> crimsun: now it says ...ubuntu8 is the latest versionnn
[07:14] <blank_> hey guys
[07:14] <blank_> I need a good SVN web front-end
[07:14] <jherm> let me see if i can get back to where i was
[07:14] <blank_> such as trac, but trac requires python
[07:15] <blank_> anyone have any suggestions?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: what's my filesystem check command?
[07:15] <Paladine> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16599
[07:15] <jcan_ras> i have a shell script I want to run at startup, can sum1 tell me how to do it?
[07:15] <ToHellWithGA> i want to check this drive big time now that i know it confused itself between ext2 and ext3
[07:15] <Healot> "fdisk -l <device>" - ToHellWithGA
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> system fat16?
[07:16] <m1ndsurfer> So say I've installed Eclipse JDT with Synaptic. How do I run it? How do I find out how to run it?
[07:16] <ToHellWithGA> shouldn't it say system linux?
[07:17] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: pastebin the fdisk output
[07:18] <crimsun> Paladine: amixer set 'LFE' 80% && amixer set 'Duplicate Front' on
[07:18] <ToHellWithGA> http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/72849
[07:19] <Paladine> crimsun, that now sends front to back (left and right) kills back and still no center or woofer
[07:20] <Healot> ToHellWithGAL: is that the drive where you are trying to mount the ext3 partition?
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/72851 all of my other partitions that are ext3 are listed as Id: 83 and System: Linux
[07:20] <crimsun> Paladine: ok, revert the 'Duplicate Front' toggle, and mute 'External Amplifier'
[07:20] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: that is the drive that was formatted as ext2 for a few months now
[07:21] <Paladine> crimsun, got the syntax for me?
[07:21] <crimsun> Paladine: amixer set 'Duplicate Front' off && amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[07:21] <mikeandmore> any body compile the lastest kernel 2.6.17.1?
[07:22] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: somehow it was mount as ext3 and journal was added the the partition
[07:22] <Healot> maybe?
[07:22] <Paladine> crimsun, front and rear working again but no center or woofer and front right still gives outputfor a few seconds after rear right output starts
[07:22] <ToHellWithGA> i guess it *has* a journal although i wouldn't know how to verify that
[07:22] <farous> mikeandmore: i did not compile but i run the kernel on debian sid
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> is there a way i can set ID to 83 and System to linux?
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> i don't like it masquerading as fat16 to fdisk
[07:23] <crimsun> Paladine: are you using the latest bios for that motherboard?
[07:23] <Healot> ToHellWithGA: it is linux partiton
[07:23] <ToHellWithGA> it is
[07:24] <Healot> oh, with the fat16 partition
[07:24] <Paladine> crimson, I may not be, I will check see when the last one was released.  I updated it a few months back but a newone may have been released since
[07:24] <Healot> fdisk /dev/sda then
[07:24] <Healot> press h when you're the fdisk prompt
[07:24] <mikeandmore> farous: you're running on laptop or desktop?
[07:24] <Healot> check out for the command to change the partition type
[07:25] <Healot> then press w to write the changes :)
[07:25] <farous> mikeandmore: i am running it on my compaq laptop because of the broadcom wirless card
[07:25] <jcan_ras> i have a shell script I want to run at startup, can sum1 tell me how to do it?
[07:25] <dooglus> jcan_ras: append a line that runs it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:25] <farous> mikeandmore: and seems things have changed so am still configuring the system. but the wirless card work
[07:25] <dooglus> jcan_ras: make sure the script is executable
[07:26] <dooglus> jcan_ras: and it'll be run by root
[07:26] <ToHellWithGA> Healot: thank you
[07:26] <cryptic> morning
[07:26] <dooglus> how can I find the URL for my local ubuntu repository?
[07:26] <Paladine> crimsun, checking asus site now
[07:26] <jcan_ras> thanx yall
[07:27] <newbuntu> can anyone tell me how to copy a directory using shh commandline? I'm trying to copy a directory from my computer to my girlfriendsd
[07:27] <farous> dooglus: ubuntu website. i would recommend netslect too if you need the fastest connection will do it automatically for you
[07:28] <Paladine> crimsun, I think I have 1015 BIOS (latest non beta is 1016) so I will do a quick reboot and check
[07:28] <dooglus> farous: thanks, but which ubuntu website?
[07:28] <mikeandmore> farous: can your computer hibernate correctly?
[07:29] <dooglus> farous: there are lots of links on http://www.ubuntu.com/ - any idea which of them might help me find my local repositories?
[07:29] <farous> dooglus: i know it is on ubuntu.com but you will need to search for it sorry am really busy now with some config
[07:29] <farous> mikeandmore: did not check that yet. have prob with freq_scaling at the moment
[07:29] <animato> hello, i'm having troubles playing h.264 files in vlc
[07:29] <animato> it plays fine but the display is garbled
[07:30] <farous> dooglus: nope
[07:30] <animato> anyway to fix it?
[07:30] <animato> btw, mplayer plays them fine
[07:30] <Paladine> brb I will have to boot to windows to update thebios
[07:30] <dooglus> farous: I found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - is that what you meant?
[07:31] <Twinxor> Does anyone have any experience with installing the open-source DRI video drivers?
[07:31] <mikeandmore> just apt-get upgrade from breezy.
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[07:34] (jcan_ras/#ubuntu) ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmidc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) mikeandmore, i have no answer, but ut always does that
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) Healot, the DRI only works on 8500+?
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: it's supposed to
[07:34] (newbuntu/#ubuntu) how do you chown a file? and what does it do?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) u can hit ctrl + c to end it
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) that wasn't apparent on the website
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) where can i find the backports?
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: in fact, the version in the repo right now is supposed to
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) and ure pc will boot faster cause it will skip it
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) really?
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) i'm using it now
[07:34] (animato/#ubuntu) what repo?
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) but then when u get to the genome
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: yes. which output are you using, xv or x11(shm)?
[07:34] (Healot/#ubuntu) for 8500 or lower, 3D acceleration is avail with the ati/radeon driver
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: dapper-backports
[07:34] (cryptic/#ubuntu) u will have to configure ure "network" by yourself
[07:34] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) Healot, the default ati/radeon ones work, but are pretty darn slow
[07:34] (crimsun/#ubuntu) animato: (there's no backported vlc yet)
[07:35] (animato/#ubuntu) where can i find the dapper-back ports?
[07:35] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) it does not really feel accelerated in the least
[07:35] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) is ati or radeon a better choice, btw?
[07:35] (Hobbsee/#ubuntu) animato: they dont really exist yet - not much to backport from
[07:35] (jcan_ras/#ubuntu) ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:35] (garryF/#ubuntu) ati makes radeon
[07:35] (snoops/#ubuntu) Twinxor you mean ati or nvidia?
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) oh
[07:36] (cryptic/#ubuntu) yea
[07:36] (Healot/#ubuntu) Twinxor: both, "radeon" is the alias for the driver "ati"
[07:36] (cryptic/#ubuntu) nvidia or ati
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) crimsun, i think i tried both
[07:36] (animato/#ubuntu) neither works
[07:36] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) oh, ok
[07:36] (Twinxor/#ubuntu) I've seen people refer to it as a choice
[07:36] <garryF> np, nvidia seems better supported.
[07:36] <snoops> I find nvidia works a lot easier
[07:36] <Twinxor> well, I'd like to try DRI, just to get better support
[07:36] <crimsun> animato: ok, hang a week or so
[07:36] <cryptic> Twinxor, now u can tell them they are wrong :)
[07:36] <Healot> duck duck
[07:36] <animato> oh ok thanx
[07:36] <farous> Twinxor: did not test 3-d accel on using the ati module but it work with the radeon one
[07:36] <Sebo> hi
[07:36] <animato> at least i can still use mplayer for now :)
[07:36] <snoops> I had a terrible time trying to get my old radeon working in dri.. nvidia was simply install it and go through a config
[07:36] <Twinxor> guys, I already have a crummy ATI card in my laptop - I'm trying to get it working better
[07:37] <cryptic> any one here know anything about fish?
[07:37] <Twinxor> yeah, the DRI walkthrough on their wiki is very bare-bones
[07:37] <cryptic> like aquarium fish :)
[07:38] <Twinxor> I installed ubuntu-server on my aquarium
[07:38] <cryptic> hehe
[07:38] <newbuntu> is there a gui for ssh-server?
[07:38] <cryptic> no but seriously
[07:38] <Sebo> Is it possible to shutdown the autoconnect to an unsecure AP. All time gnome is started the wlan interface is connected to the AP "WLAN" and got an IP adress from there. How can I stop this?
[07:38] <s|k> libdvdcss2 can't be installed for some reason, what do I need to watch dvd's?
[07:38] <Twinxor> s|k, why won't it install?
[07:39] <s|k> Twinxor: says it's not available but referred to by another package
[07:39] <Twinxor> well, make sure you have the universe & multiverse repositories enabled
[07:39] <s|k> I Do
[07:39] <s|k> do*
[07:39] <Twinxor> it's not in the core repository because of copyright issues
[07:39] <mikeandmore> still have problems, I CANNOT HIBERNATE ON ANY KERNELS....(2.6.17 + 2.6.15ubuntu)
[07:39] <cryptic> what are the universe and multiverse?
[07:40] <Twinxor> do you see the package in synaptic?
[07:40] <jcan_ras> PLEEZE HELP ME! ok im sorta slow with shell scripting and Im trying to run a file located at /home/ras/wireless.sh in my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh file, where and how should i put it in?
[07:40] <Twinxor> !repositories
[07:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:40] <farous> !caps
[07:40] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:40] <cryptic> hehe
[07:40] <cryptic> !multiverse
[07:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[07:41] <cryptic> oh ok
[07:41] <cryptic> repositories is the same thing :)
[07:41] <garryF> I am not sure how to run a script from a script file and so I kept silent. Better to say nothing, than guess and mess things up for ye jcan_ras.
[07:42] <Twinxor> yeah, multiverse is the one for packages with oppressive licensing terms
[07:42] <s|k> Twinxor: it's enabled
[07:42] <s|k> I still can't get it
[07:42] <Twinxor> again, do you see the package in synaptic?
[07:42] <Twinxor> make sure to reload
[07:43] <s|k> Twinxor: no I don't see it
[07:43] <CarlFK> jcan_ras: I would make sure /home/ras/wireless.sh  is executable (chmod u+x /home/ras/wireless.sh )
[07:43] <Twinxor> hit Reload in synaptic
[07:44] <newbieme> i have a newly installed ubuntu-server but i can't connect to it (ssh) but i can ping from it...
[07:44] <dooglus> farous: it looks like netselect needs a list of hosts to compare.  where do you get your list from?
[07:44] <CarlFK> jcan_ras: (u is for user, x is for execute - so it makes it exectuable by the user that owns it)
[07:44] <newbieme> how can i enable ssh to my setup?
[07:44] <CarlFK> newbieme: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:45] <Twinxor> s|k, does it work if you reload your package lists?
[07:45] <s|k> Twinxor: no it doesn't
[07:45] <Twinxor> if not, there's proably an error in your repository configuration
[07:45] <farous> dooglus: it did not here. all i did is i moved my sources.list file and let netselect write one from scratch. then i added the extra repos
[07:45] <dooglus> newbieme: are you running sshd?
[07:45] <s|k> heh
[07:45] <s|k> I don't have trouble installing anything else
[07:45] <newbieme> thanks guys
[07:45] <dooglus> farous: netselect doesn't write sources.list files - it compares the speed of the hosts you tell it about
[07:45] <Twinxor> do you see other multiverse packages, though?
[07:46] <farous> dooglus: give me a min
[07:46] <s|k> Twinxor: like which?
[07:46] <dooglus> farous: aah.  maybe you mean netselect-apt?
[07:46] <farous> dooglus: yap sorry about that
[07:47] <dooglus> farous: that's ok - thanks for the pointer :)
[07:47] <Twinxor> for instance, do you have a "Libraries (multiverse)" section in Synaptic?
[07:47] <farous> :)
[07:47] <s|k> Twinxor: where would that section be?
[07:48] <Twinxor> in the list of sections, on the left side of the Synaptic window
[07:48] <s|k> Twinxor: yes it is there
[07:48] <Twinxor> actually, it looks like I'm barking up the wrong tree
[07:50] <Twinxor> well, if all else fails, just download the .deb file and install that
[07:50] <s|k> hrm how do I do that?
[07:50] <s|k> oh I see
[07:50] <s|k> there are instructions on the wiki
[07:51] <Twinxor> oh, hey
[07:51] <Twinxor> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/ is what you want
[07:51] <Twinxor> looks like it's in another repository altogether
[07:51] <Twinxor> but if you add the one this blog talks about, you should get it
[07:51] <Locke> so i have the win32 codecs but i dunno how well it works..
[07:52] <Twinxor> yeah, in principle I can play WMVs, but it's pretty flaky
[07:52] <rob138> hi, is it at all possible to send a X application to another display while it is already open?
[07:52] <Madpilot> !w32codecs
[07:52] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[07:52] <garryF> Not that I know of rob138
[07:53] <Madpilot> Twinxor, see ubotu's links ^^^
[07:53] <bjorn> heh
[07:53] <zcat[1] > !mplayer
[07:53] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[07:53] <rob138> !flash
[07:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:54] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[07:54] <Twinxor> I believe I have those installed, Madpilot
[07:54] <rob138> another sort of related question, is it possible to suspend an application while loggin in/out of gdm?
[07:54] <Twinxor> slow system, imperfect codecs
[07:55] <Paladine> crimsun, k I have updated to latest BIOS, sound wise, front and back speakers are working but still nothing from center/LFE
[07:55] <rexykik> !nvidia
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:55] <Jerusalem420> i want to upgrade to dapper
[07:55] <Jerusalem420> what is the name of the file i need to edit for the repositories?
[07:55] <Twinxor> !upgrade
[07:55] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:55] <Twinxor> good luck!
[07:55] <cryptic> lol
[07:55] <cryptic> Twinxor, is it hard?
[07:56] <crimsun> Paladine: are you using -25.43?  (``uname -r'')
[07:56] <Twinxor> no, it's very easy - except the 2% of the time when something blows up!
[07:56] <Paladine> crimsun, 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[07:57] <crimsun> Paladine: hmm. Ok. Try: amixer set 'LFE' off && amixer set 'LFE' 100% on
[07:59] <Paladine> still nothing on center or LFE just gonna check the cables in the back a sec
[07:59] <s|k> yay I am watching DVD's on Ubuntu :)
[08:00] <benplaut> 2 years later, the family desktop is finally converted.  What's the easiest way to share files and printer between two linux box?
[08:00] <Ian_II> When trying to install Ubuntu on an external USB hard drive, I'm getting errors while partitioning.
[08:00] <Ian_II> No error message is produced. I'm wondering if there is a log somewhere that I could share
[08:00] <cryptic> guys
[08:00] <soo> hi man~~
[08:00] <cryptic> quick and easy Q
[08:00] <cryptic> tar xvf httpd-NN.tar
[08:01] <Ian_II> or if I could partition it somewhere else
[08:01] <killaz> hi is there a way to emulate the other buttons of my mouse? I have a MX 510
[08:01] <Paladine> crimsun, everything is connected up ok
[08:01] <Ian_II> gparted maybe
[08:01] <cryptic> how do i choose the dir i want to extract that 2?
[08:01] <rob138> Can anyone help me fix my flash sound problem with firefox? i have looked at the RestricedFormats troubleshooting and none of its suggestions worked
[08:01] <spades> cryptic there should be a --dir option, check the man page
[08:01] <killaz> I know here is no drivers for it... but still I was wondering if there still could be a solution
[08:01] <cryptic> spades, i read through it and never saw it :(
[08:02] <cryptic> ill try again
[08:02] <garryF> !flash > garryf
[08:02] <crimsun> Paladine: ok, sec.
[08:03] <Ian_II> Has anyone else been able to install on an external USB HDD?
[08:03] <Paladine> crimsun, np
[08:03] <spades> killaz http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/)
[08:04] <spades> killaz https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  sorry wrong paste
[08:04] <Staz> hi I have this in my .bashrc file : PATH=$PATH:~/bin/
[08:04] <Staz> How can I add more directories to path?
[08:04] <cryptic> spades, no dir option in man pages
[08:04] <cryptic> im running hoary
[08:04] <cryptic> so it might not be updated :)
[08:05] <cryptic> !man
[08:05] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:05] <cryptic> where are those online pages
[08:06] <cryptic> HMM
[08:06] <konfuzed> hey what can I use to open MS Publisher files? oo.Impress does not have a filter for it
[08:06] <cryptic> tar xvf httpd-2.2.2.tar
[08:06] <spades> cryptic -C, --directory=DIR        change to directory DIR  maybe try mkdir DIR && tar xzf --directory=DIR ?
[08:06] <cryptic> ectracts it into a folder with that name
[08:06] <cryptic> its fine spades
[08:06] <spades> cryptic the good guys usually make it so it creates its own folder
[08:06] <Staz> Can I separate the dirs with : ?
[08:07] <hyphenated> Staz: for PATH, you have to separate them with :
[08:07] <Staz> cool and then I have to do that source command?
[08:08] <nbjayme> hello my friend has nVidia ethernet and i have Via ethernet  we have Linksys as hub ... the IP and Mask are correct but cannot ping to each other... ?
[08:08] <hyphenated> Staz: no.. the problem is you're putting it in ~/.bashrc instead of ~/.bash_profile
[08:08] <CarlFK> nbjayme: does the linksys have a dhcp server?
[08:09] <achandra> hello. I really havent dealt with this before..but how do you resolve an issue with an IRQ conflict inUbuntu? When I added memory to my laptop, it conflicts with my wireless card..but if i rmmod the driver and comment out the alias for it, it boots up fine.. any ides?
[08:09] <nbjayme> CarlFK, no we both use static IP...
[08:09] <Staz> hyphenated : what is the difference between the 2?
[08:09] <Staz> will this work ? --> PATH=$PATH:~/bin/:/~/Desktop/FiSH-irssi.v0.99-source/MIRACL/
[08:09] <Lathiat> no / before ~/Desktop
[08:09] <Staz> oh of course :)
[08:09] <Lathiat> but iirc for fish
[08:09] <Lathiat> PATH
[08:09] <Lathiat> isnt what you want
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: it's best not to recommend using .bash_profile - it doesn't get used often
[08:10] <hyphenated> dooglus: it's used once per login
[08:10] <Staz> Lathiat : You have got fish working in irssi?
[08:10] <Lathiat> and not on x terminals
[08:10] <Lathiat> Staz: yes it was a right cunt i cant remember 100% how i did it
[08:10] <hyphenated> Staz: ~/.bash_profile is read when you log in. you use this one to set environment variables like PATH
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: yes, but how often do you log in?  most people just use gdm
[08:10] <hyphenated> dooglus: once a day
[08:10] <dooglus> hyphenated: gdm doesn't run login shells
[08:10] <CarlFK> nbjayme: paste both /etc/network/interfaces to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:10] <Lathiat> Staz: bbiab
[08:11] <Staz> sure
[08:11] <CarlFK> nbjayme: and post the link here
[08:11] <Staz> Make sure that your Linux PATH points to the current directory, so that
[08:11] <Staz> executables can be run..
[08:11] <Staz> supposdly I need to edit path to point to MIRACL
[08:11] <dylan_> how can i make ubuntu start faster?
[08:11] <dooglus> Staz: you can put as many things in your PATH as you like, colon separated
[08:12] <dooglus> Staz: set it in ~/.xprofile, not ~/.bash_profile (if you use gdm)
[08:13] <Hobbsee> freaz: please turn that away message off thanks
[08:13] <JamesWC> got itunes anyone?
[08:14] <JamesWC> Itunes or aol anyone???????????
[08:14] <crimsun> Paladine: (phone conf atm)
[08:14] <achandra> dylan_: a suggestion would be to disable uneeded services..that start at boot. So using admin, then services see which one you dont need.
[08:14] <Paladine> crimsun, np I can wait, I appreciate the help
[08:14] <HedgeMage> JamesWC: is there any available evidence of your breathing?
[08:14] <cryptic> ok
[08:15] <cryptic> weird
[08:15] <JamesWC> what?
[08:15] <cryptic> i extract the latest apache2.2.2 and run .configure
[08:15] <cryptic> after runing it i cant find the make file :(
[08:15] <HedgeMage> wow, that was easy.
[08:15] <jimbo2006> lol Hedgemage
[08:15] <dooglus> Windows Media Player anyone???
[08:15] <dylan_> achandra, the GUI is limited
[08:16] <Patrick__> hey all
[08:16] <Patrick__> does anyone know how to hack through a routers password while being connected to it?
[08:16] <sss> hey guys
[08:16] <Patrick__> like, so you can change router settings, etc.
[08:16] <dylan_> Patrick__, ask somewhere else if this is malicious
[08:16] <Patrick__> its not malicious
[08:16] <Patrick__> most likely not
[08:16] <dylan_> k
[08:16] <dooglus> Patrick__: yes.  all you need to do is put the username into the username box, and the password into the password box.
[08:16] <Patrick__> ...
[08:17] <Patrick__> this is without knowledge of the user name and password
[08:17] <dooglus> Patrick__: if you don't know the password, do "social engineering"
[08:17] <cryptic> lol
[08:17] <cryptic> i have the same issue
[08:17] <Patrick__> the people are asleep..
[08:17] <achandra> dylan_: can you type sudo services_admin  and see what that gets ya?
[08:17] <cryptic> i need to get into my router
[08:17] <Patrick__> trust me
[08:17] <Patrick__> we would SIMPLY ask
[08:17] <sss> why my ubuntu run more and more slowly since the system start?anybody tell me?
[08:17] <dooglus> Patrick__: do you know where they live?  I know some good 'filez' on lockpicking
[08:17] <Patrick__> dude
[08:17] <Patrick__> we're talking in the SAME house
[08:17] <Patrick__> now
[08:17] <Patrick__> if you don't know
[08:17] <Patrick__> don't bother to reply again
[08:17] <dylan_> achandra, it gets me a gui ... but theres only 8 services listed
[08:18] <dooglus> Patrick__: try the default login and password - people don't usually change them
[08:18] <DarkMageZ> Patrick__, this channel is not for such things. just reset the router, and reconfigure it using the default username & password in the manual
[08:18] <sss> why my ubuntu run more and more slowly since the system start?anybody tell me?
[08:18] <cryptic> DarkMageZ,
[08:18] <cryptic> that is not possible
[08:18] <achandra> dylan_: in those services if you see something unecessary that doesnt need to start at boot, turn it off.
[08:18] <cryptic> not his router therefore he wont know account details
[08:18] <cryptic> they will be lost
[08:18] <ray__> is there a way to compile C programs so that they do memory transfers faster?
[08:19] <cryptic> i have the same issue, i need access to my router cause my brothere likes to change the pass, but then wont tell me the pass :(
[08:19] <dylan_> achandra, arent there more services i can look at?
[08:19] <blocky> cryptic, beat him up
[08:19] <farous> is it normal not to have an .ICEauthority file in my home dir
[08:19] <cryptic> lol
[08:19] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, who's internet is it? yours or his?
[08:19] <dylan_> achandra, i want to really boot this thing fast
[08:19] <dooglus> cryptic: there's usually a button on the router to reset everything
[08:19] <cryptic> blocky, im the younger bro
[08:20] <cryptic> DarkMageZ, its my parents but he thinks he owns it
[08:20] <dooglus> DarkMageZ: neither.  the internet is owned by Mr Bush.
[08:20] <cryptic> and dooglus if i reset it
[08:20] <crimsun> Paladine: are you just using speaker-test?
[08:20] <cryptic> he will know i tinkered
[08:20] <dooglus> cryptic: so?
[08:20] <cryptic> he must not know i got access to it
[08:20] <cryptic> or he will beat me
[08:20] <cryptic> thats what im trying to avoid here :)
[08:20] <Paladine> crimson, yeah
[08:21] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, is there any real disadvantage of not knowing?
[08:21] <cryptic> hence getting around the security :)
[08:21] <Paladine> crimsun, speaker-test -c6 -Dplug:surround51
[08:21] <cryptic> being able to change accounts when needed
[08:21] <cryptic> multiple accounts ftw
[08:21] <cryptic> but only he can change them
[08:21] <hybrid> lol
[08:21] <cryptic> but i cant ask him to change every time i want to play online
[08:21] <chennaituxian> Hey, my ubuntu daper has detected my wireless network, when i configured it and activated it, still the network connections shows eth1 to be disconnected, ifconfig gives correct details
[08:21] <achandra> dylan_: typing sudo dmesg, will also give you an idea of everything that starts.. by wittiling through rhat..you might see what is simply not needed..
[08:22] <crimsun> Paladine: do you get an error with -Dsurround51 instead of -Dplug:surround51?
[08:22] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, well go talk with your parents about it, get it sorted
[08:22] <cryptic> lol DarkMageZ it doesnt help
[08:22] <dylan_> achandra, so how do i stop a service?  is there a directory where the services are located?
[08:22] <cryptic> they are computer illetereate
[08:22] <nbjayme> CarlFK, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16601
[08:22] <cryptic> so they say he knows best
[08:22] <cryptic> cause he is older
[08:22] <dooglus> dylan_: the scripts which start and stop services are in /etc/init.d/
[08:22] <achandra> chennaituxian: are you using ndiswrapper?
[08:22] <cryptic> i dont see him using linux OR doing any programming
[08:22] <cryptic> so yea
[08:22] <chennaituxian> achandra: nope
[08:22] <dylan_> dooglus, thanks ... is there a gui that i can use for those?
[08:22] <cryptic> lol DarkMageZ it got so bad i ran away for 2 days
[08:22] <dooglus> dylan_: run "sudo /etc/init.d/<service> stop" to stop it; replace 'stop' with 'start' to start it
[08:22] <Paladine> nope no error
[08:23] <Paladine> but same output
[08:23] <crimsun> Paladine: ok
[08:23] <achandra> chennaituxian: are you using network manager tool or wpasupplicant?
[08:23] <cryptic> and said i would only return on condition i get access to the router
[08:23] <cryptic> they said ok and nothing happened :(
[08:23] <dylan_> dooglus, will stopping the service stop it from starting on the next boot?
[08:23] <crimsun> Paladine: I think you're going to have to use custom routing
[08:23] <chennaituxian> achandra: the default network manager tool
[08:23] <DarkMageZ> cryptic, well you just need to run away properly
[08:23] <dooglus> dylan_: no
[08:23] <cryptic> hehe
[08:23] <cryptic> anyway
[08:23] <cryptic> i got to go to school now
[08:23] <dylan_> dooglus, how do i do that?
[08:23] <cryptic> i need to collect my report
[08:23] <cryptic> see what i got :)
[08:23] <dooglus> dylan_: the links in /etc/rc2.d/ say what's 'S'tarted or 'K'illed at level 2
[08:23] <Paladine> crimsun, sounds painful, is there a guide for it?
[08:24] <chennaituxian> achandra: how will i connect to my wireless, when it is detected and cofigured properly
[08:24] <crimsun> Paladine: thankfully, yes. Start with http://alsa.opensrc.org/SurroundSound
[08:24] <chennaituxian> configured*
[08:24] <crimsun> Paladine: what you'll be manipulating are the ttable parameters
[08:24] <achandra> chennai tuxian: I use a graphical tool...specifically it is called gnome network manager... you can search for it in synaptics..
[08:24] <Paladine> crimsun, thanks, I will have a look at it, appreciate your time on this and at least I have front and rear now, which is more than I had :)
[08:25] <crimsun> Paladine: unfortunately I can't tell you precise values to use, because that's specific to your hardware
[08:25] <CarlFK> nbjayme: "Ethernetfromothercomputersareworkingexceptthemyfriend's." - can the other computers ping you or your friend?
[08:25] <achandra> chennaituxian:when you use that tool..it will show visible wireless networks...and you can go from there...
[08:25] <Paladine> crimsun, np I will go by trial and error :)
[08:25] <achandra> chennaituxian: like you, i found the graphical tool...for properties and such to be quirky..
[08:26] <achandra> chennaituxian: does the ifconfig stuff look to be correct to you??
[08:26] <crimsun> Paladine: the only other controls I can see that you may wish to toggle are 'Channel Mode' and 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA'
[08:26] <Staz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/9wsoCr57.html --> any idea whats wrong? (Has been driving me crazy all evening)
[08:26] <chennaituxian> ya
[08:26] <rexykik> what is the command to generate an xorg.conf?
[08:26] <rexykik> what is the command to generate an xorg.conf?
[08:26] <dooglus> rexykik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:26] <dooglus> rexykik: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:26] <crimsun> Paladine: for instance: amixer set 'Channel Mode',0 '2ch'
[08:26] <chennaituxian> achandra: do you mean places-->system administration--> network tools ?
[08:27] <crimsun> Paladine: or: amixer set 'Channel Mode',0 '4ch'
[08:27] <nbjayme> CarlFK, the othe computer can ping me well.... i used the cable from the other computer and place it to my friend.... the hub activity light is working everything he tries to ping my computer.... also mine.... but i don't know why it cannot ping each other.
[08:27] <achandra> chennaituxian: nope.. its called networkmanager..
[08:27] <chennaituxian> ok
[08:27] <achandra> chennaituxian: youll have to apt it
[08:27] <nbjayme> CarlFK, *everytime he pings*
[08:28] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok, i now deactivated my eth1 as i am using ethernet in eth0
[08:28] <chennaituxian> achandra: can i use ndiswrapper instead ?
[08:29] <dooglus> Staz: where did you get that code from?
[08:29] <nbjayme> CarlFK, his Ethernet was working fine on other network (office)....
[08:29] <achandra> chennaituxian: if you dont "have" to use it..and the system is detecting your card properly..then there is no need.
[08:30] <chennaituxian> achandra: so i just need to have network manager
[08:30] <erez> to mount an iso file in need to : `mount -t iso file_location mount_point` , right?
[08:30] <Staz> dooglus : I am trying to compile fish for irssi
[08:30] <Staz> have had nothing but trouble.
[08:30] <Staz> that code is what I get when I type "make"
[08:31] <achandra> chennaituxian: Lets be clear here...and start over - 1) When you enable the wireless card...does it receive an address automatically or is it a static address??
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: I know.
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: where did you get the source code from?
[08:31] <iBrood> Hello everyone, can someone help me with KMPlayer
[08:31] <iBrood> ?
[08:31] <chennaituxian> achandra: I have to give a statis address and a gateway address, give dns also
[08:31] <Staz> http://fisk.sekure.us
[08:31] <dooglus> Staz: and where did you get MIRACL from?
[08:31] <Staz> fish*
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: so all is set statically.. ??
[08:32] <Staz> wget http://indigo.ie/~mscott/miracl.zip
[08:32] <chennaituxian> achandra: yes
[08:32] <Staz> its what the fish guide recommended me to get.
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: how are you specifying the AP?
[08:32] <achandra> chennaituxian: or is that where you are stuck..
[08:32] <iBrood> I need to record an RM video stream. Is that possible with KMPlayer?
[08:33] <CarlFK> nbjayme: "looks like it should work" - but I have to run (i need food)  - do ifconfig, post those  results - maybe someone else will see something
[08:33] <chennaituxian> I have an AP which we have here in the office
[08:34] <chennaituxian> am specifying in that network configurations GUI which comes when u double click the network monitor icon and press configure
[08:34] <achandra> chennaituxian: okay...to make things..signficantly easier...that NetworkManager tool..is what you need.
[08:34] <Staz> dooglus : You're familiar with MIRACL/
[08:34] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok fine
[08:34] <Staz> ?
[08:34] <nbjayme> CarlFK, okey thanks for the assistance...
[08:34] <chennaituxian> achandra: I will get them
[08:34] <achandra> chennaituxian: also when you enable that card...what "type" of card is it??
[08:34] <dooglus> Staz: no, but I can become familiar with it.  did you build and install it?
[08:35] <Staz> yes I think so
[08:35] <bulltitan> hi
[08:35] <Staz> I typed "bash linux"
[08:35] <chennaituxian> achandra: its an intel wireless card
[08:35] <Staz> thats what I was told to do
[08:35] <chennaituxian> achandra: how do i check the exact name ?
[08:35] <bulltitan> let's say that i have vmware with windows xp,... can i install a game in that virtual xp?
[08:35] <Staz> can I /msg you the instructions I was given?
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: well..that is a little tougher...but lets see if can figure it out okay?
[08:36] <chennaituxian> achandra: ok
[08:36] <leboff>  hey, i'm trying to use gimp to go through a bunch of folders and resize jpgs and change them to bmp its about 800 folders.. 1 jpg each is that easy to do?
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: sudo lspci
[08:36] <bulltitan> is taht possible?
[08:36] <bulltitan> that i mean
[08:36] <achandra> chennaituxian: see it ?
[08:37] <nbjayme> would it be okay if i directly place the ethernet cable from one computer to another?
[08:37] <dooglus> Staz: sure
[08:37] <Staz> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tuQtkJ70.html
[08:37] <chennaituxian> achandra: what i have to look for
[08:37] <bulltitan> please anyone?
[08:38] <chennaituxian> achandra: i have ethernet, bluetooth and wireless in my laptop
[08:38] <achandra> chennaituxian: the type of intel wireless card...it should say...
[08:38] <nbjayme> dooglus,  we can communicate without the need of hub? no damage to nic?
[08:38] <chennaituxian> 82801 Mobile ?
[08:38] <dooglus> nbjayme: huh?
[08:39] <Staz> oh and this may be helpful : http://fish.sekure.us/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165 (rag3rac3rs post)
[08:39] <dooglus> nbjayme: you need a 'crossover cable' to connect directly without a hub
[08:39] <tomlikestorock> Heya. Anybody else notice this? Turn off tv-out on a laptop ati card, and it doesn't work at all in ubuntu. Turn it on in windows and you control it in ubuntu. What gives?
[08:39] <achandra> chennaituxian: Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[08:40] <achandra> chennaituxian: yours should say something similar
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: ok
[08:40] <nbjayme> dooglus, okay thanks... we were about to do it on the network cable we have because we wonder we cannot ping to each other... thanks for the confirmation....
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: did you get errors from "bash linux"?
[08:40] <dooglus> Staz: I see: sample.cpp:28: error: 'pi' was not declared in this scope
[08:40] <Staz> bash linux worked fine
[08:41] <Staz> what does that mean ? :)
[08:41] <chennaituxian> achandra: wait, i switched off that wireless sometime ago in my laptop
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Staz: what's this for?
[08:42] <Staz> Its fish for irssi
[08:42] <achandra> chennaituxian: turn it back on and look for it with lspci...
[08:42] <achandra> chennaituxian: then we will lsmod and see if ubuntu loaded a module for it automatically..
[08:43] <Staz> Hobbse : http://fish.sekure.us for more info.
[08:43] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ok , got some problems compiling wine, can someone look at it ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[08:43] <chennaituxian> achandra: got my msg ?
[08:44] <dooglus> Staz: you installed the source code for both irssi and glib?
[08:44] <Staz> I believe so
[08:44] <Staz> I am using irssi right now
[08:44] <Staz> and I am pretty sure I have glib
[08:44] <dooglus> Staz: you need the source packages as well
[08:45] <dooglus> Staz: you can run irssi using just the binary package
[08:45] <dooglus> Staz: see at the top of Makefile, there's "irssi_dir = $(HOME)/irssi-0.8.9" - you need to edit that to point to your irssi source dir.  same for glib
[08:45] <Staz> I edited the glib ones fine.
[08:46] <Staz> To get irssi I just used aptitude, is that a problem?
[08:46] <dooglus> Staz: you need to get the source as well
[08:46] <Staz> how can I find the source if I used aptitude to install it.
[08:46] <dooglus> Staz: apt-get source irssi
[08:46] <Staz> oh ok
[08:46] <chennaituxian> achandra: did you get what i sent in /  msg ?
[08:47] <Staz> do I need to compile the source?
[08:47] <Staz> will it affect the irssi I am using now? :)
[08:47] <achandra> chennaituxian: nope...try again..
[08:48] <dooglus> Staz: no
[08:48] <Staz> sweet
[08:48] <fdsd> Do you guys have a ppc channel?
[08:48] <Staz> source is just required for the fish compilation process?
[08:48] <dooglus> Staz: the errors you were getting were because it couldn't find the irssi header files
[08:48] <fdsd> hey guys, How do I disable stderr in the console?  Its spitting tons of junk at me while I am working
[08:49] <Staz> hey one other thing dooglus while apt-get is dloading source :) What program would you recommend for editing makefiles/
[08:49] <dooglus> fdsd: what kind of junk?
[08:49] <dooglus> Staz: GNU Emacs
[08:49] <Staz> thats Gui?
[08:49] <fdsd> dooglus, like I stuff from my firewire drive, and random stuff, I just need to turn off the messaging
[08:50] <dooglus> Staz: kind of
[08:50] <Staz> alrighty I have the source :) where on earth did it go
[08:50] <dooglus> fdsd: kernel messages then?
[08:50] <dooglus> fdsd: do they all have time stamps to millionths of a second?
[08:50] <fdsd> not sure
[08:51] <dooglus> fdsd: things like: "Jun  9 23:59:07 chrislap kernel: [4294738.882000]  Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized"
[08:51] <dooglus> with that big number in square brackets?
[08:51] <Staz> Does irssi source have to be same as version Im using? I have a feeling its not
[08:52] <dooglus> Staz: it should be - you got them both from the same repository (source and binary)
[08:52] <dooglus> fdsd: is klogd running?
[08:52] <Staz> yeah
[08:52] <fdsd> dooglus, not sure
[08:52] <fdsd> dooglus, fixed it though
[08:53] <dooglus> running klogd fixed it?  or you fixed it some other way?
[08:53] <fdsd> echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/printk
[08:53] <fdsd> ugg I hate that!
[08:53] <fdsd> Does anyone know a small live cd that just boots to the command line, with no gui for ppc?
[08:53] <fdsd> I want to use it for dd and such
[08:54] <_cotroler> how do i install gnome in kubuntu pls?
[08:54] <fdsd> Or is there a way to boot the livecd and turn off gui and not launch X?
[08:54] <Staz> hey dooglus, where would my source have gone to?
[08:55] <Staz> so I can edit my path
[08:55] <dooglus> Staz: it goes to the current directory
[08:55] <Staz> heh got it :)
[08:55] <ElBrujo> i get this error in a ./confugure:
[08:55] <ElBrujo> checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... no
[08:55] <ElBrujo> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[08:55] <fdsd> anyone know?
[08:55] <ElBrujo> i intal GCC
[08:56] <ElBrujo> and Make?
[08:56] <dooglus> ElBrujo: install build-essential
[08:56] <dooglus> Staz: install source for glib too
[08:56] <Staz> ok
[08:56] <dooglus> Staz: and update the makefile to point to it
[08:56] <Staz> alright
[08:57] <Staz> I think glib source is already installed/
[08:57] <Staz> because I was getting even more errors during make until I changed the path to glib dir
[08:57] <dooglus> Staz: I don't think that path you've used for glib dir is right...
[08:57] <ElBrujo> ok thanks
[08:58] <dooglus> Staz: did you "apt-get source glib"?
[08:58] <Staz> glib_dir = /usr/lib/glib-2.0
[08:58] <Staz> doing so now :)
[08:58] <dooglus> Staz: if not, I doubt you have the glib source
[08:58] <Staz> ok
[08:58] <dooglus> that /usr/lib dir is where the compiled libraries live, not the source
[08:58] <Staz> OH OK
[08:59] <Staz> unable to find package, I need to specify version no. ?
[08:59] <Staz> like glib-2.0 or something
[08:59] <achandra> is anyone aware of what /proc/interrupts is for.. if you change a the first number on a device....can it resolve irq conflicts?
[09:00] <Staz> libglib2.0-0  --> sound right?
[09:01] <Dapallo> hey, i just installed Audacity, but it cant find my sound card
[09:01] <Dapallo> any idea on what i need to do?
[09:02] <chennaituxian> achandra: sent u again
[09:02] <dooglus> Staz: sorry, yes, sounds good
[09:03] <Staz> no worries dooglus, and the free helper should never say sorry bro :)
[09:04] <lightstar> i knw
[09:04] <Dapallo> so, could anyone help?
[09:04] <lightstar> sorry
[09:04] <dooglus> Staz: free?  didn't you read the small print?  ;)
[09:05] <Staz> hahaha /part
[09:05] <Staz> I have chronically slow internet so libglib will be a while :)
[09:06] <dooglus> Staz: you'll have to extract the files from the archive after getting libglib source
[09:06] <Staz> ok
[09:07] <dooglus> Staz: the archive is glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4.tar.gz
[09:07] <dooglus> use 'tar xf' to extract it
[09:07] <Staz> I have a feeling the irssi source automatically extracted, sounds right?
[09:08] <dooglus> yes
[09:08] <dooglus> almost every package's source is already extracted.  I don't know why glib is different.
[09:08] <dooglus> maybe 'cos it's big, I don't know
[09:08] <Staz> ahh ok :)
[09:08] <Staz> Would you recommend creating a folder somewhere for all these source folders, I might need em in future?
[09:09] <Ademan> can we upgrade to gnome 3 now?
[09:09] <Staz> 100% :)
[09:10] <leboff> i'm using the find to execute a command (lets say renaming the file) and it will put the new file in my home folder (or whatever folder i'm running the command from) is there a way to get it to save right where it is?
[09:11] <dooglus> Staz: after extracting the tar file, run ./configure in the upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4/ dir
[09:11] <dooglus> leboff: yes
[09:11] <dooglus> leboff: what are you running exactly?
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: its to convert a bunch of jpegs i have in folders to bitmap and resize them..
[09:12] <fdsd> Or is there a way to boot the livecd and turn off gui and not launch X?
[09:12] <dooglus> leboff: ok
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: here is the command
[09:12] <fdsd> Does anyone know a small live cd that just boots to the command line, with no gui for ppc?
[09:12] <dooglus> leboff: let'ssee it :)
[09:12] <Staz> what should I do about ---> glib_inc
[09:12] <leboff> find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg -exec convert {} -resize 125x125 cover.bmp \;
[09:12] <userundefine> fdsd, gentoo
[09:12] <Staz> have to specify a path for that
[09:12] <leboff> dooglus: convert is from imagemagick
[09:13] <dooglus> leboff: that 'cover.bmp' is the output filename, right?
[09:13] <fdsd> userundefine, yeah I think gentoo is almost perfect except the livecds kinda suck when it comes to hardware support
[09:13] <leboff> dooglus: correct, and that keeps overwriting itself in my home folder
[09:14] <userundefine> fdsd, I've never used it on ppc so I can't advise there, I just know they have one.  shame though
[09:14] <dooglus> leboff: so do this instead: find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg -exec convert {} -resize 125x125 125.{} \;
[09:14] <leboff> wait what
[09:15] <erez> any one knows how can i burn DVD in dapper? gnome baker fails for some reason..
[09:15] <farous> erez: use k3b
[09:15] <Staz> cool, finished ./config
[09:15] <farous> much better
[09:15] <leboff> dooglus: see the thing is, when i had album art they are all as folder.jpg , in about 800 different folders i want to save them back where they are.. as cover.bmp
[09:15] <erez> farous: i'll try it..
[09:16] <sss> excuse me,how can i install a tar.gz package?
[09:16] <sss> anybody knows it?
[09:16] <farous> sss: tar.gz is not a package it is a source file most prob
[09:16] <Staz> tar -xjf <file> I think thats it
[09:17] <dooglus> leboff: ok, in that case, do this: find /media/ipod -name folder.jpg | while read x; do convert "$x" -resize 125x125 "$(dirname "$x")/cover.bmp"; done
[09:17] <Healot> sss: unpack
[09:17] <sss> ok ,how can i install it?
[09:17] <Healot> tar xvfz <tar.gz file>
[09:17] <leboff> hahah that looks scarier but i'll try it thanks dooglus
[09:17] <dooglus> leboff: try it on a small test directory first!
[09:17] <Healot> sss: depends, if it's already compiled, just run the main binary
[09:17] <leboff> dooglus: done is not included right
[09:18] <Healot> if it's a source you can compile/package them manually
[09:18] <dooglus> leboff: done closes the 'do'
[09:18] <dooglus> leboff: ie. it's needed
[09:18] <sss> how should i know if it already compiled or not?
[09:18] <leboff> dooglus: oohh ok good thing i asked
[09:18] <sss> healot
[09:18] <farous> sss: you could not find the package you need in the repos
[09:19] <Staz> hey dooglus : Is everything ready for make now?
[09:19] <ElBrujo> give me this error:
[09:19] <ElBrujo> checking for ieee1284_wait_status in -lieee1284... no
[09:19] <ElBrujo> Get the latest libieee1284 from http://cyberelk.net/tim/data/libieee1284/
[09:19] <ElBrujo> configure: error: FATAL: Failed to find required libieee1284 version (0.1.5 or n ewer).
[09:19] <sss> farous,what is repos?
[09:19] <ElBrujo> but i have libieee1284 installed
[09:19] <why> hi..
[09:19] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:19] <farous> sss: did you try synaptic the package manager
[09:20] <farous> ElBrujo: check if you have the rquired ver of libieee
[09:20] <leboff> dooglus: works in the test dir! here goes the real thing! thanks
[09:20] <sss> i dont think there is that software in sypnatic
[09:20] <KuLover> What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?
[09:20] <sss> its a statistic software
[09:20] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[09:20] <sss> farous
[09:20] <dooglus> leboff: it'll even work for files/dirs with spaces in their names, unlike your -exec line
[09:21] <volt^warlock> How do i list all users I have on my server?
[09:21] <leboff> dooglus: ooh nice catch, thanks.. wouldve been stuck on that for hours :(
[09:21] <dooglus> volt^warlock: who
[09:21] <volt^warlock> cheerss
[09:21] <ElBrujo> farous yeap
[09:21] <farous> sss: which pckage is it
[09:21] <dooglus> leboff: that's what all the double quotes are for...
[09:21] <volt^warlock> dooglus, I mean by "listing all users" - I meant. To see who has an account on the server or not.
[09:21] <sss> farous ,the software named R,  often used to statistic
[09:22] <volt^warlock> ex, an adduser name account. You get the drill :P
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: all the accounts are listed in /etc/passwd
[09:22] <farous> sss: it is in the repos
[09:22] <volt^warlock> cheers
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: you can look in /home to see the home directories...
[09:22] <farous> sss:  i know it for i have it installed here and most prob you have the source package
[09:22] <volt^warlock> yeah, but some doesnt have one. Dont ask why anyways
[09:22] <volt^warlock> :p
[09:22] <farous> !repos > sss
[09:22] <dooglus> volt^warlock: "sudo user-admin" is a gui that shows you all the accounts
[09:22] <farous> !easysource > sss
[09:23] <volt^warlock> I have a weird user, called "proxy", and "klog",
[09:23] <Healot> volt^warlock: internal use, don't worry
[09:23] <farous> sss: look at ubotu private messages you need multiverse and universe enabled
[09:23] <volt^warlock> ok, "list/irc" ?
[09:23] <Healot> they have /bin/false >> locked users...
[09:23] <volt^warlock> ah
[09:23] <volt^warlock> but some has /bin/sh
[09:23] <Healot> for sysinternal etc...
[09:24] <volt^warlock> ah, ok :)
[09:24] <Healot> btw, if you haven't mess with the passwd file, you're safe
[09:24] <volt^warlock> I havent, I didnt touch a thing init.
[09:24] <Healot> great :)
[09:24] <Ademan> http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie    looks very cool, it's not in the repositories yet is it?
[09:25] <wiking> hei! i have problem. please help. when i want to start root terminal it ask password but after that do nothing
[09:25] <sss> farous ,how can i use it?
[09:25] <sss> what is repos?
[09:25] <dooglus> volt^warlock: those 'weird users' come with the system
[09:25] <Ademan> repos = repository
[09:26] <eclair> wiking, you have root access?
[09:26] <dooglus> volt^warlock: generally, all users with uids<1000 are system users of some kind
[09:26] <ani_max> hi. i tried installing nvidia drivers but it gives an error saying. The installer has to be in root. anyone know hot to do this?
[09:26] <wiking> i think yes
[09:26] <farous> sss: they are ftp sites where compiled packages can be downloaded by the package manager
[09:26] <ani_max> *how
[09:26] <farous> sss: look at help.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <darkowl> hello
[09:26] <farous> !repos
[09:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:26] <volt^warlock> ah, ok dooglus. Thanks :)
[09:27] <dooglus> Staz: you OK now?
[09:27] <Staz> dooglus : now I get this ---> glibconfig.h not found! Please install glib and modify 'glib_dir' ...
[09:27] <Staz> what path am I supposed to give?
[09:27] <volt^warlock> guys, is there any more things i can do to boost ubuntu server 5.10 breezy up performance wise?
[09:27] <dooglus> Staz: me too.  I thought ./configure would make it for you.  lemme check
[09:27] <sss> farous ,u mean ,i can get a compiled R in repos?
[09:27] <wiking> eclair: yesterday i was install linux ubuntu to my computer
[09:27] <Ademan> farous: i never knew they were ftp... cool, i was actually wondering that a while back
[09:27] <volt^warlock> like uninstall stuff that aint being used +
[09:27] <farous> sss: exactly
[09:27] <volt^warlock> ? *
[09:27] <ani_max> hi. i tried installing nvidia drivers but it gives an error saying. The installer has to be in root. anyone know how to do this?
[09:28] <farous> Ademan: They are not necessarly only ftp http also but am trying to simplify it for sss
[09:28] <dooglus> Staz: I have glibconfig.h here: -rw-r--r-- 1 chris chris 5312 Jun 27 09:12 /home/chris/src/libglib2.0-0/glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4/glibconfig.h
[09:28] <volt^warlock> guys, is there any more things i can do to boost ubuntu server 5.10 breezy up performance wise? Like uninstall hidden stuff that eats some cpu/ram power, or something fimiliar to that?
[09:28] <snoops> you gotta use sudo command apt-get ani_max
[09:28] <dooglus> Staz: so I used: glib_dir = $(HOME)/src/libglib2.0-0/glib2.0-2.11.4/upstream/tarballs/glib-2.11.4
[09:28] <farous> !find R
[09:28] <ubotu> Found: abiword, abiword-common, abiword-gnome, abiword-help, abiword-plugins (and 8244 others)
[09:28] <KenSentMe> !tell ani_max about sudo
[09:29] <Ademan> volt^warlock: uh, you could get rid of x and your gnome desktop and use the console :-)
[09:29] <Staz> ok I'll try that
[09:29] <dooglus> Staz: you probably want the same without the '/src/' at the beginning, depending on where you were when you did the 'apt-get source'
[09:29] <sss> farous ,i opened the tar.gz, theres a file named configure,is that mean  this R is compiled?
[09:29] <farous> sss: goto packages.ubuntu.com site you will find a list of ready to install packages
[09:29] <volt^warlock> Im using the console Ademan, im using ubuntu server 5.10, and what's x ?
[09:29] <dooglus> sss: that means it's not compiled
[09:29] <ani_max> thanks snoops, KenSentMe
[09:29] <eclair> wiking, is the password that you gave the root password?
[09:29] <KuLover> What would someone say the best driver for an ATI X850 XT would be?
[09:29] <Ademan> volt^warlock: x is the basis of everything "graphical"
[09:29] <sss> oh,thanku dooglus
[09:29] <Ademan> !tell volt^warlock about Xorg
[09:30] <Ademan> hopefully that's right
[09:30] <farous> sss: no that is a configuration file so you can compile it. and believe me you might need more packages for it to work
[09:30] <dooglus> sss: what are you trying to install?
[09:30] <Ademan> !tell Ademan about Xorg
[09:30] <volt^warlock> Ademan, but that shouldnt bother me, should it? Im using ubuntu server ?
[09:30] <farous> sss: easiest way less time is to install from repos
[09:30] <Ademan> i don't know what the ubuntu server installs
[09:30] <calebt> how can i install vmware on ubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[09:30] <sss> ok,i got it
[09:30] <dooglus> Staz: the end is in sight!  I got: "Compiling finished -->> /home/chris/src/fish/FiSH-irssi.v0.99-source/libfish.so"
[09:30] <sss> dooglus ,i wanna install an R
[09:31] <dooglus> sss: the stats package?
[09:31] <anfangs> im sorry, stupid question, but this is freenode isnt it?
[09:31] <Wodger> yes
[09:31] <ElBrujo> hey i have the same pakage instaled libieee1284
[09:31] <sss> dooglus
[09:31] <volt^warlock> yes anfangs, it is :)
[09:31] <sss> yas
[09:31] <ElBrujo> and not work
[09:31] <ElBrujo> say that i don have it
[09:31] <Staz> dooglus : that is sooooo good to hear~!
[09:31] <anfangs> ok :) srry.. trying out this console irc client, not completely familiar w/ it yet
[09:31] <volt^warlock> Ademan, any ideas? :D
[09:32] <dooglus> Staz: I didn't try running it, but I think irssi can load plugins without needing to be rebuilt
[09:32] <Staz> glib_dir = ~/Desktop/glib-2.10.3
[09:32] <dooglus> sss: "R" is a tricky thing to search for!
[09:32] <Staz> yet I still get that error :(
[09:32] <darkowl> hey guys how can I ke that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:32] <volt^warlock> anfangs, under ubuntu server? :P
[09:32] <Staz> glibconfig.h not found, but it is definitely i there.
[09:32] <darkowl> hey guys how can I make that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:32] <dooglus> Staz: you need to give a path all the way down to the directory where you ./configure'd
[09:33] <Staz> I did that
[09:33] <Staz> sorry I chopped that folder out and pasted on desktop
[09:33] <Staz> so it was a shorter path :)
[09:33] <erez> i can't burn DVD's with k3b either..
[09:33] <tijn> Q: there is unix time, is there something like unix date?
[09:33] <erez> it's says something about I/O error..
[09:33] <Staz> glib_inc = whatshouldgohere?
[09:33] <Ademan> volt^warlock: so you ONLY have a console?
[09:33] <volt^warlock> yeah
[09:34] <volt^warlock> text / black background = console i guess
[09:34] <dooglus> sss: there are binary packages of "R" here: http://www.stats.bris.ac.uk/R/bin/linux/debian/sarge/
[09:34] <Ademan> yeah, no mouse cursor no nothing?
[09:34] <volt^warlock> no
[09:34] <Ademan> just text input?
[09:34] <volt^warlock> just black background, and white text :P
[09:34] <volt^warlock> yeah
[09:34] <Ademan> hehe
[09:34] <Ademan> ok
[09:34] <wiking> eclair: yes, if i try write other password it say that is not right
[09:34] <volt^warlock> no icons etc.
[09:34] <darkowl> hey guys how can I make that privoxy and tor start at boot ?
[09:34] <Ademan> yeah you don't have X
[09:34] <Ademan> which is good
[09:34] <dooglus> sss: (they're built for debian sarge - I don't know how compatible with ubuntu that is)
[09:34] <volt^warlock> :)
[09:34] <Ademan> (for a server)
[09:34] <volt^warlock> but Ademan
[09:34] <volt^warlock> I was wondering, is there a way to remove things i dont need. Like the mail server etc?
[09:34] <hybrid> darkowl: you should be able to edit that in torrc iirc?
[09:35] <hybrid> darkowl: you should be able to edit that in torrc iirc.
[09:35] <volt^warlock> things that eats the ram usage / cpu usage by just 0.2, doesnt matter. want it removed :P
[09:35] <sss> i download one from the R offacial wehpage
[09:35] <sss> dooglus
[09:35] <farous> sss: here is the package name r-base and it is in the universe repos
[09:35] <darkowl> hybrid: torrc iirc ?
[09:35] <dooglus> Staz: what if you run "ls -l ~/Desktop/glib-2.10.3/glibconfig.h" in a terminal?
[09:35] <ani_max> KenSentMe: now another error came up. can you help?
[09:35] <hybrid> darkowl: the file .torrc if i recall correctly
[09:36] <Ademan> volt^warlock: well, unless you're doing something very proffessional with your server i'm pretty sure you'll be fine, i'm running my server off of a 4 year old computer with X and gnome installed (ie lots of extra proccesses), but if you MUST get rid of things, see if you can find out what proccesses are running
[09:36] <darkowl> hybrid: OK ill try to google on that...
[09:36] <ElBrujo> i the readme say that:
[09:36] <ElBrujo> Note that if you use the RPMs to install libieee1284, you'll need the -devel
[09:36] <ElBrujo> RPM too for the header file.  If you compile it from source, you may need to
[09:36] <ElBrujo> add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf.
[09:36] <volt^warlock> Yeah I can find out
[09:36] <dooglus> sss: you should install package "r-base" using synaptic.  that's far easier than using the packages from the official site.
[09:36] <hybrid> darkowl: join me in #ubuntu-classroom
[09:36] <ElBrujo> what is the -devel?
[09:36] <volt^warlock> root 6768 0.0 0.0 1552 488 tty1 Ss+ Jun21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[09:36] <volt^warlock> root 6770 0.0 0.0 1556 492 tty2 Ss+ Jun21 0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
[09:36] <volt^warlock> whats these ?
[09:36] <KenSentMe> ani_max: just ask your question here in the channel, maybe i or someone else can help
[09:36] <Staz> -rw-r--r-- 1 staz staz 5312 2006-06-27 19:15 /home/staz/Desktop/glib-2.10.3/glibconfig.h
[09:37] <Ademan> those are your consoles
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 2 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun21 0:00 [migration/0] 
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 3 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? SN Jun21 0:00 [ksoftirqd/0] 
[09:37] <volt^warlock> root 4 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jun21 0:00 [migration/1] 
[09:37] <volt^warlock> ?
[09:37] <Ademan> you actually have more than one :-)
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !paste
[09:37] <volt^warlock> hmpfh, I do ?
[09:37] <dooglus> volt^warlock: that's the login prompt on virtual consoles 1 and 2
[09:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:37] <farous> volt^warlock: use the pastebin do not flood here
[09:37] <KenSentMe> !tell volt^warlock about paste
[09:37] <volt^warlock> yeah, sorry.
[09:37] <volt^warlock> yeyeye
[09:37] <ani_max> i ran the nvidia installer with the sudo command and got this error --> Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package
[09:37] <dooglus> volt^warlock: those [migration/0]  things are kernel related
[09:37] <ani_max>          'binutils' installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld`
[09:37] <ani_max>          is in your PATH.
[09:37] <volt^warlock> ok
[09:37] <sss> dooglus ,u mean ,i can find it in sypnatic?
[09:37] <Staz> you have no idea how jealous I am of you dooglus (having that .so file) :D
[09:37] <volt^warlock> well, you say I have more then one consoles
[09:37] <dooglus> sss: yes.  search for 'r-base'
[09:37] <volt^warlock> how do i look them up ?
[09:37] <dooglus> Staz: want me to upload it?
[09:37] <KenSentMe> ani_max: have you read the wiki page about installing nvidia?
[09:38] <Staz> would that work?
[09:38] <dooglus> Staz: I'm running edgy, but it might be worth a go
[09:38] <volt^warlock> Also, is this something to be 'trusting' on ? http://zkillz.mine.nu/sysinfo
[09:38] <farous> volt^warlock: you have 6 terminal consl by default and on the 7th you have your xserver that might open more
[09:38] <ani_max> KenSentMe, no. i installed Ubuntu yesterday so still figuring out everything on hit and trial
[09:38] <Staz> dooglus : That would be awesome thanks
[09:38] <KenSentMe> !tell ani_max about nvidia
[09:38] <calebt> how can i install vmware on ubuntu 6.06 dapper?
[09:38] <sss> ok ,i havnt tried it yet ,i thought there was no one
[09:38] <KenSentMe> ani_max: here's some info on installing nvidia drivers
[09:38] <dooglus> Staz: http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/libfish.so - it might not work, 'cos edgy has a new libc version, but give it a go anyway.
[09:39] <ani_max> KenSentMe, thanks will kust check it out
[09:39] <ani_max> *just
[09:39] <volt^warlock> anyone is the "phpsysinfo" page anything to be trusting on?
[09:39] <postmodern> how do you open up LVM volumes of another Ubuntu system
[09:39] <Staz> any chance of upping your makefile their too?
[09:39] <volt^warlock> when i see psyhical memory go over 60% I get very worried.
[09:39] <postmodern> if lets say i have the hard drive hooked up to another running Ubuntu box
[09:39] <Ademan> lol volt^warlock those are your specs and you're worried? lol
[09:39] <Madpilot> volt^warlock, don't be - Linux will use whatever memory it can find, and swap as needed.
[09:39] <Kaja> It's supposed to go near 100%
[09:39] <dooglus> volt^warlock: I don't trust anything with a H sandwiched between two P's
[09:39] <Ademan> what are you doing with this server?
[09:40] <Ademan> dooglus: php owns you!
[09:40] <volt^warlock> hosting my gameservers / webserver
[09:40] <Kaja> volt^warlock, tt's just using the memory for cache and buffers so it won't be wasted.
[09:40] <Kaja> it's*
[09:40] <Kaja> it = Linux
[09:40] <volt^warlock> ok, so thats nothing to be trusting on when it comes to overloading the cpu or ram usage etc ?
[09:41] <volt^warlock> it's top I should look at, correct ?
[09:41] <Kaja> volt^warlock, right.
[09:41] <postmodern> hello i need to mount up LVM volumes from an old Ubuntu system and rescue some data off it
[09:41] <Staz> ./load libfish.so
[09:41] <Ademan> volt^warlock: what games? and are you planning on hosting all at once?
[09:41] <postmodern> how do i do this from another Linux install
[09:41] <Kaja> volt^warlock, try free -m for memory.
[09:41] <volt^warlock> Ademan, counter-strike 1.6 servers only.
[09:41] <volt^warlock> ok, gonna check Kaja
[09:41] <volt^warlock> Mem: 3804 713 3090 0 147 409
[09:41] <volt^warlock> -/+ buffers/cache: 157 3647
[09:41] <dooglus> sss: I mean you can find it in synaptic.  you need to enable the 'universe' repository first though.  see what ubotu says:
[09:41] <dooglus> !universe
[09:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:42] <dooglus> !info r-base
[09:42] <ubotu> r-base: GNU R statistical computing language and environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 20 kB, installed size 56 kB
[09:42] <Inzoy> hello, can someone tell me how ubuntu deals with raid controllers?
[09:42] <Kaja> volt^warlock, so you have like 3647 megs of free ram =O
[09:42] <volt^warlock> does that tell you something? ex if its using alot or not Kaja ?
[09:42] <postmodern> hello i need to mount up LVM volumes from an old Ubuntu system and rescue some data off it
[09:42] <jczekalski> --.--
[09:42] <Kaja> w00t
[09:42] <volt^warlock> yeah, it's my dual core 3.2 p4 server with 4gb ram, Im installing my second one (same server) tomorrow.
[09:42] <sss> dooglus ,ok
[09:43] <volt^warlock> So I was thinking of getting into 'cleaning' the linux from crap to improev the gameservers. but i guess that doesnt work eaither, as theres no "cleaner some crap" outta linux :P
[09:43] <Kaja> volt^warlock, nice total amout of ram you've got there.. and only ~200 megs used by programs atm.
[09:43] <volt^warlock> So this is good? I'm running 1 gameserver, php5 + mysql atm.
[09:43] <volt^warlock> brb getting my smokes
[09:43] <Ademan> volt^warlock: you're absolutely fine...
[09:43] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I diable X from coming up on startup?  I dont want X or gdm to startup
[09:43] <snoops> if you need to ask is that good then I'd worry
[09:43] <NorDoc> HELLO
[09:43] <fdsd> disable
[09:43] <sss> !universe
[09:44] <farous> postmodern: did you try hocking it up and just mounting the partitions. or is that just naieve of me to think
[09:44] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:44] <hybrid> fdsd: change the run level to 1 or 2
[09:44] <eobanb> welcome, NorDoc
[09:44] <Staz> Irssi: FiSH v0.99 - encryption module for irssi loaded! :D:D:D
[09:44] <dooglus> fdsd: uninstall gdm - or do you want to be able to run it?
[09:44] <NorDoc> hello eobanb
[09:44] <fdsd> dooglus, I want to run it
[09:44] <Staz> hey dooglus : thanks a million!
[09:44] <dooglus> hybrid: runlevel 2 runs gdm
[09:44] <NorDoc> i have a problem
[09:44] <volt^warlock> Ademan, ok. Does anyone know anything about boosting up my gameservers FPS ?
[09:44] <hybrid> dooglus: which run level is root and which one is normal user?
[09:44] <fdsd> hybrid, how do you change the runlevel in ubuntu?
[09:44] <dooglus> fdsd: sysv-rc-conf is a package which can edit the runlevels for you.  untick 'gdm' in level 2.
[09:44] <fdsd> dooglus, is that in /etc?
[09:44] <postmodern> farous, all the partitions are in some LVM partition
[09:44] <dooglus> hybrid: 2 in the default in ubuntu.
[09:45] <volt^warlock> boosting up gameservers fps* - sorry. I havent got any sleep for lots of hours now.
[09:45] <dooglus> fdsd: it's a package - install it.
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, and it's Ubuntu's default partition layout which i don't know
[09:45] <fdsd> dooglus, cant, i am modifing the livecd
[09:45] <farous> postmodern: or can you connect to it through an internet lan and ssh to them
[09:45] <hybrid> hmm ok thanks dooglus
[09:45] <volt^warlock> Kaja, Ademan. Any ideas of how to boost a gameservers fps up? like changing the HZ or something?
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, the Ubuntu install is foobar
[09:45] <dooglus> fdsd: in that case, you can just remove /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[09:45] <volt^warlock> something fimiliar to that
[09:45] <postmodern> farous, i'm trying to rescue some data from /home
[09:45] <Kaja> volt^warlock, no idea, sorry.
[09:45] <farous> postmodern: ok now i understand
[09:46] <volt^warlock> :-( crap
[09:46] <fdsd> dooglus, but isnt there a file I can edit, so it will properly disable gdm?
[09:46] <postmodern> farous, yeah i'm new to using LVM
[09:46] <volt^warlock> Ademan, any clues ?
[09:46] <Ademan> volt^warlock: are you experiencing poor performance?...
[09:46] <farous> postmodern: have no experience there perhaps others can help
[09:46] <dooglus> fdsd: gdm runs when you boot because of the presence of /etc/rc2.d/*gdm ; if you remove that link, it won't run at boot, but will still be runnable by hand.
[09:46] <volt^warlock> yes Ademan, the server fps is on 300, should be on 1000.
[09:46] <fdsd> dooglus, good enough thanks:)
[09:46] <NorDoc> i use the desktop cd to install ubuntu
[09:47] <postmodern> any LVM experts in here?
[09:47] <dooglus> fdsd: you said earlier that you didn't want to disable gdm, because you want to be able to run it
[09:47] <ElBrujo> hey wait is the name of LPT1 in ubuntu Dapper?
[09:47] <NorDoc> and when i try to boot ubuntu it crashes
[09:47] <NorDoc> and often drops me on a "busybox" shell
[09:47] <dooglus> Staz: using my .so?
[09:47] <Ademan> your game server displays things?... i thought the game server just sits in the background
[09:47] <dooglus> Staz: or did you get yours to build?
[09:47] <ElBrujo> is for this:
[09:47] <ElBrujo> -p      Specify port to use (default: first useable).
[09:47] <ElBrujo>           port: port name (system-dependent).
[09:48] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:48] <ElBrujo> i need to know the port name
[09:48] <ElBrujo> ???
[09:48] <Staz> using your .so I dont think mine was ever going to produce a .so ;)
[09:48] <volt^warlock> Ademan, It does. I can check how much fps it runs at by typing 'stats' or rcon stats while in the gameserver, to see the how much fps the server runs at atm
[09:48] <dooglus> Staz: you weren't far off, I'm sure
[09:48] <NorDoc> i re-installed ubuntu like 5 times and still have the same results
[09:48] <dooglus> Staz: you asked earlier about glib_inc or something...  I don't see any setting for glib_inc - maybe I downloaded a different version of the code than you?
[09:49] <NorDoc> somebody help me please
[09:49] <Staz> must have done
[09:49] <Flannel> NorDoc: try using the alternative CD to install.  The live CD installer still has its quirks.
[09:49] <ElBrujo> please....
[09:49] <Ademan> the server shouldnt have fps though, fps is frames per second, implying frames, which implies display...   of course, it could just be an indicator of how tight the game loop is running, but then fps is a bad term... boo to valve...
[09:49] <ElBrujo> the name of paralel ports in ubuntu?
[09:49] <Ademan> anyways, 300 fps is by no means poor performance, what kind of performance do clients get when they connect to your server? as far as ping goes
[09:49] <Staz> dooglus : did you edit the makefile according to what rag3rac3r said on the fish forum?
[09:50] <NET||abuse> can anyone help get jedit working, when i run it i get a series of errors... GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!
[09:50] <NorDoc> my hard drives go through a gigaRAID controller
[09:50] <NorDoc> do i need drivers for that?
[09:50] <darkowl> NorDoc: use the alternative cd, i also couldn't install from live cd but with alternative cd it works
[09:50] <farous> NET||abuse: i just downloaded it from jedit site and it ran smoothely
[09:50] <csacsi> does anyone know how to install 'RealPlayer' when already sitting on desktop. I'm a newby of course.  What the book suggested, didn't work!
[09:50] <NorDoc> i can install from the livecd
[09:51] <volt^warlock> Ademan, the higher fps, the more stable the server is.
[09:51] <NET||abuse> farous, did you use deb to install?
[09:51] <Ademan> volt^warlock: the two are completely unrelated... in fact going too fast could result in instability
[09:51] <farous> NET||abuse: nope it was a jar file
[09:51] <Flannel> NorDoc: if youre going through a RAID, you shouldnt be using the liveCD, you should be using the Alternative CD to install
[09:51] <Ademan> but regardless i need to sleep
[09:51] <Ademan> its 1 and its my anniversary with my gf tomorow
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Ademan, ah. OK. Take care :)
[09:52] <NET||abuse> farous, ahh, i'm trying to use the method outlined on their site where i add sourceforge deb line to sources.list
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Yeah i know, but i want to boost the fps though, Ademan.
[09:52] <NorDoc> Flannel, i'll try that :)
[09:52] <NorDoc> does it ask me about controllers and stuff?
[09:52] <NET||abuse> farous, it installs fine, adds an icon to applications menu under -> Programming
[09:52] <farous> NET||abuse: just a side comment i prefer netbeans and eclipse to jedit. i know its a personal pref
[09:53] <hyphenated> NET||abuse: have you installed Sun java?
[09:53] <NET||abuse> i want the simplicity of jedit
[09:53] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i was wondering what java run time i might need
[09:53] <NET||abuse> i have giij
[09:53] <NET||abuse> -i just gij
[09:53] <NorDoc> anyways
[09:54] <NET||abuse> and java-gcj-compat
[09:54] <farous> NET||abuse: hyphenated hve a point perhaps it is looking for java in the wrong place or just not the proper java. run it in a terminal and look at the error
[09:54] <NorDoc> i'll try using the alternative cd
[09:54] <Hobbsee> !apache
[09:54] <ubuntu> hi all ... should do an upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10 or a clean install?
[09:54] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:54] <NET||abuse> farous, the error from terminal is that one i posted
[09:54] <NorDoc> and hope i don't end up here again :P
[09:54] <NET||abuse>  GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!
[09:54] <hyphenated> !java
[09:54] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:55] <dooglus> Staz: no, I didn't.  I skimmed through his posting, but don't remember any of it :)
[09:55] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i' double check that.
[09:55] <chiccodoro_> hello all! I have realplayer installed. When I play a ram file, there is no sound to hear, but realplayer seems not to be aware of that. It worked recently, probably before I upgraded to ubuntu 6. what's missing?
[09:55] <hyphenated> triple check it ;-)
[09:55] <KenSentMe> How do i switch to window 11 in irssi?
[09:56] <dooglus> Staz: I just checked, and his posting is irrelevant to us - ubuntu does things differently from slack
[09:56] <dooglus> Staz: are you running ubuntu, by the way?
[09:56] <dooglus> KenSentMe: hit control-n lots of times:)
[09:57] <dooglus> KenSentMe: or control-p, whichever is the shorter distance
[09:57] <farous> KenSentMe: you have 11 windows on irssi ;)
[09:57] <KenSentMe> farous: cool eh
[09:57] <dooglus> farous: it's easily done - one per channel and one per private soon adds up
[09:57] <KenSentMe> farous: i'm in all channels on freenode
[09:57] <farous> KenSentMe: i have 3 and think the screen is crowded
[09:57] <dooglus> farous: especially since irssi will allow you to connect to multiple networks
[09:58] <eobanb> KenSentMe, all channels...???
[09:58] <KenSentMe> eobanb: joking
[09:58] <farous> dooglus: i was just think of screen space :)
[09:58] <KenSentMe> Is there a /join all command ? :p
[09:58] <an1_max> KenSentMe, can you suggest a winamp type playlist player for ubuntu?
[09:58] <dooglus> farous: irssi only shows one window at a time though, doesn't it?
[09:58] <KenSentMe> dooglus: it does
[09:59] <farous> dooglus: i have config it for 3 right now
[09:59] <farous> can do more
[09:59] <dooglus> KenSentMe: well, farous is saying about screen-clutter...
[09:59] <KenSentMe> an1_max: Rhytmbox maybe
[09:59] <sss> dooglus ,r u there
[09:59] <dooglus> does it highlight your name, farous, if I put it in the middle of a line?
[09:59] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, i'm gettin E: Couldn't find package sun-java5-jre,, i have both multiverse lines uncommented in sources.. but after i uncommented the deb-src line i started getting  "W: GPG error: ftp://ie.archive.ubuntu.com dapper-backports Release: Unknown error executing gpgv"
[09:59] <dooglus> farous: 'cos it doesn't for me
[09:59] <farous> dooglus: you can try never tried it
[09:59] <dooglus> sss: I R here
[10:00] <sss> dooglus ,i cant find r-base in gnome universe
[10:00] <hyphenated> NET||abuse: uh.. backports aren't part of the solution
[10:00] <KenSentMe> dooglus: for me neither, and i'm looking for an option to have that
[10:00] <dooglus> farous: I mean, sometimes people say my name in the middle of a line, and irssi doesn't highlight that window for me
[10:00] <farous> NET||abuse: add the multiverse not the backport multiverse
[10:00] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, oh, the comments for that line said multiverse..
[10:00] <dooglus> sss: not GNOME - universe is a ubuntu repository.
[10:00] <hyphenated> !repos
[10:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:00] <farous> dooglus: i know and you can try putting my name in a middle of line for me to know
[10:01] <dooglus> i did, farous, already.
[10:01] <sss> not in sypnatic?
[10:01] <dooglus> and I just did it again farous - did it work?
[10:01] <farous> dooglus: then i have the same prob :)
[10:01] <farous> dooglus: perhaps if we try another theme it will
[10:01] <_nano_> does anyone use network manager applet here?
[10:01] <_nano_> is there a way to bypass the gnome keyring prompt during startup?
[10:01] <^dE^> i have a question, i have DL ubuntu 6.06, and burned it on a cd, but now, it doesn`t want to boot from it, i have allready read the faq, on the page, but i havent downloadaded an .iso file. please help.
[10:02] <_nano_> ^dE^: did you checksum your CD?
[10:02] <^dE^> _nano_ what does that mean?
[10:02] <NET||abuse> hyphenated, farous, thanks both..
[10:02] <_nano_> ^dE^: meaning have you verified if the CD has been written properly?
[10:02] <NET||abuse> i'll see if this helps
[10:03] <farous> ^dE^: if you did not download an iso image what did you download ?
[10:03] <Slaryn> Hey there, I'm running a Dell Inspiron 7500 laptop and my PS/2 mouse will not work, only the touchpad.
[10:03] <Slaryn> Suggestions?
[10:03] <^dE^> i downloaded an .rar file
[10:03] <farous> ^dE^: extract the iso file from it then burn it
[10:03] <Madpilot> ^dE^, you sure, or are you on an XP system w/ WinRAR?
[10:03] <^dE^> farous, i ded :)
[10:03] <sss> dooglus ,i know ,u mean ,i have to modify my source?
[10:04] <^dE^> im on xp yes, i wanted to install vira VmWare
[10:04] <Madpilot> WinRAR sometimes plays very stupid games with files it really shouldn't be dealing with...
[10:04] <^dE^> via*
[10:04] <ttongfly_> 
[10:04] <^dE^> i`ll try to extract one more time, ok? :)
[10:04] <csacsi> I have an 'Iomega Zip' drive, that I can't get working.  When installed on "Windows" I have to install the software for it from disk or the net.  What's the story with "Ubuntu"?
[10:04] <dooglus> sss: there's a way to do it using synaptic; or you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand (use "sudo" or you won't be able to edit the file)
[10:05] <dooglus> sss: I've not used synaptic for a long time, so I forget how it's done.  I expect ubotu's links tell you though.
[10:05] <dooglus> !repos
[10:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:06] <neutrinomass> csacsi: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29441 Have fun :)
[10:06] <Slaryn> Anybody on my mouse problem?
[10:06] <sss> dooglus ,ok ,thanku
[10:07] <^dE^> _nano_ this is the name of the .rar file -> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386
[10:07] <csacsi> thanks
[10:07] <scheuri> hi all
[10:07] <pvd> My Nvidia card doesnt seem to be loading properly.  Its an Nvidia card and I have Nvidia driver/module installed from apt-get, have glxgrears and im only getting 500fps about, I also checked to see if my xorg.conf had nvidia for driver and it does
[10:07] <dooglus> sss: got it now?
[10:07] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Out of curiosity, is this 6.06 ?
[10:07] <KenSentMe> dooglus: i think i have found an option to higlight my nick even when it's not at the beginning of a line. Could you test it with my nick for me?
[10:07] <hyphenated> ^dE^: rar file?
[10:07] <^dE^> yes
[10:07] <_nano_> ^dE^: you can checksum the file ..and compare it with the checksum provided in the ubuntu webpage
[10:07] <dooglus> no, KenSentMe, I won't.
[10:07] <NET||abuse> ok,, sun java installed, still getting same error "GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!\n Exception in thread "main" GC Warning: Out of Memory!  Returning NIL!\n *** Catastrophic failure while handling uncaught exception."
[10:07] <^dE^> ok :)
[10:07] <csacsi> No, it isn't.
[10:07] <_nano_> ^dE^: i mean the extracted file
[10:07] <KenSentMe> dooglus: :)
[10:07] <sss> dooglus ,im seeing it
[10:08] <^dE^> _nano_ i know :)))
[10:08] <dooglus> I've just been reading the source, KenSentMe , and it looks like there's no such option.
[10:08] <xukun> what was that command to upgrade to dapper from breezy?
[10:08] <judah> NET||abuse: sudo mv /usr/bin/java /usr/bin/java-old
[10:08] <hyphenated> ^dE^: it's not a RAR file, it's an ISO file. winrar is stupid, and you don't unpack it
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: is it working?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> dooglus: works, in irssi type /hilight dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: oh, cool
[10:08] <NET||abuse> judah, eh?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> sure is, dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: can you return the favour?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> sure is, dooglus
[10:08] <dooglus> KenSentMe: well, that didn't work :)
[10:08] <farous> KenSentMe: thanxs from here too :)
[10:08] <judah> NET||abuse: ubuntu ships with a java in your /usr/bin/ path
[10:08] <xukun> anybody?
[10:08] <KenSentMe> check farous
[10:09] <csacsi> I've tried to install 6.06, without success, so I deleted it
[10:09] <NET||abuse> judah, ok.. so what whould i do?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> check dooglus
[10:09] <farous> lol :( neither did here
[10:09] <wiking> my mic & speakers work, but cd player use other - old soundcard, how i can change it ( on device settings of CD player it don't give me thet soundcard)
[10:09] <NET||abuse> moving java doesn't help
[10:09] <dooglus> KenSentMe: you sure it's just "/hilight dooglus"?
[10:09] <farous> seems it is a theme thing
[10:09] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Ouch. Why wouldn't it install ?
[10:09] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell ^dE^ about burning
[10:09] <judah> NET||abuse: try ..  which java  .. to see what interpreter you're using.
[10:09] <Healot> use that "configure-alternative" thing
[10:09] <csacsi> I've no idea!
[10:09] <farous> NET||abuse: did you update-alternatives --config java
[10:09] <^dE^> omfg, you`re right
[10:09] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Well, what was the problem :P ?
[10:09] <KenSentMe> dooglus: type /help hilight
[10:09] <xukun> how can I upgrade to dapper
[10:09] <NET||abuse> judah, well we've just moved /usr/bin/java so which java doesn't find java
[10:09] <xukun> ?
[10:10] <KenSentMe> dooglus: do you see that?
[10:10] <^dE^> it was reasy an .iso file, but winrar wanted to extract it lool
[10:10] <csacsi> I was told, because it was a beta version?
[10:10] <^dE^> thnxy guys :))
[10:10] <scheuri> tell xukun about upgrade
[10:10] <scheuri> !tell xukun about upgrade
[10:10] <NET||abuse> farous, update-alternatives is a command on it's own?
[10:10] <dooglus> KenSentMe: aah, I'm an idiot :)
[10:10] <scheuri> uhm?
[10:10] <csacsi> I'm a bit afraid to re-run it!
[10:10] <KenSentMe> dooglus: those are your words
[10:10] <neutrinomass> Anybody on PPC ?
[10:10] <dooglus> KenSentMe: it was working...  I was expect the word 'dooglus' to be hilighted, not the word 'KenSentMe'...
[10:10] <farous> NET||abuse: yap. and /usr/bin/java is just a symb link to the java being used. you need to select which java to use
[10:10] <KenSentMe> does it work now, dooglus ?
[10:11] <wiking> my mic & speakers work, but cd player use other - old soundcard, how i can change it ( on device settings of CD player it don't give me thet soundcard)
[10:11] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Well now it has been released and many of the problems have been fixed - where did you get stuck ?
[10:11] <judah> NET||abuse: now make sure your path includes where you just installed sun's jre..
[10:11] <farous> NET||abuse: update-alternatives take care of those aliases
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: if you open the mixer and go file->change device
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: might find it there
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: I was playing a little on-line poker last night, and accidentally called one of the guys I was playing against an idiot, and would you believe he took offence and stormed off?
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: that's great.
[10:11] <Lathiat> wiking: unless you mean your cd player *plays* out the old cd card - and you dont want it to, i dont think you can do anythign about that
[10:11] <csacsi> Also, I can't get "RealPlayer' working, although it's sitting on my desktop.
[10:11] <dooglus> KenSentMe: there's a command to save that for future sessions isn't there?  /save config or some such?
[10:11] <KenSentMe> dooglus: lol, some people have a short temper
[10:11] <scheuri> !upgrade
[10:11] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[10:11] <scheuri> ah
[10:12] <judah> NET||abuse: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games:/usr/java/jre/bin:/usr/java/jdk1.5.0_04/bin .... and so on..
[10:12] <KenSentMe> dooglus: /save filename
[10:12] <neutrinomass> csacsi: RealPlayer isn't Open Source so that's probably a RealPlayer issue that the Ubuntu devs cannot help with - maybe the version that comes with 6.06 has been fixed :-/
[10:12] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Luckily, there are tons of native media players from which to choose
[10:12] <NET||abuse> farous, thanks update-alternatives worked :) had to assign it from gij java to sun java
[10:13] <csacsi> When I booted I got a message that I didn't understand.  It seems I was at the end of the booting process.
[10:13] <farous> !restrictedformats > csacsi
[10:13] <farous> NET||abuse: cool
[10:13] <NET||abuse> judah, the laternatives issue was it ;)
[10:13] <NET||abuse> judah, farous again thanks for your help :)
[10:13] <farous> csacsi: how did you install realplayer
[10:13] <dooglus> KenSentMe: or just "/save" to save to the default filename ~/.irssi/config
[10:13] <farous> :)
[10:13] <neutrinomass> Anybody on PPC that has 3 minutes of time to donate in confirming a bug ?
[10:13] <arun1> hello all.. i have run out of space in my ubuntu drive.. i have lots of space in my non ubuntu disks.. is there a safe way to reallocate space..
[10:13] <csacsi> It said;  it was specifically for Linux though!
[10:13] <screwston> how do u copy/paste files with Ubuntu
[10:13] <wiking> on mixer it is changed
[10:14] <screwston> how do u copy/paste files with Ubuntu's file browser?
[10:14] <farous> !cli
[10:14] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:14] <farous> ^  ^ screwston
[10:14] <neutrinomass> csacsi: Many companies say that about their programs, but they do not work that well after all :(
[10:14] <csacsi> The fact is that I couldn't at all!
[10:14] <dooglus> KenSentMe: I once tried writing a 'spell check' plugin for irssi, but couldn't find any way of getting access to the 'input text' at the bottom of the screen - any ideas?
[10:14] <neutrinomass> screwston: right click, copy, go to the directory you want to paste it, right click, paste
[10:14] <csacsi> What other players could I use then pls?
[10:14] <farous> dooglus: can not you just run-with-aspell irssi
[10:15] <scheuri> csacsi: totem, aviplayer, vlc...
[10:15] <neutrinomass> csacsi: I take it you did not like rhythmbox ?
[10:15] <KenSentMe> dooglus: no, never tried that. But i type in two different languages, dutch and english
[10:15] <farous> dooglus: i never tried it my self though
[10:15] <dooglus> farous: I never heard of run-with-aspell.  will look into it
[10:15] <arun1> ubotu: reallocate disk space
[10:15] <farous> dooglus: i used it with kopete before. when i was using kde
[10:15] <csacsi> I've already installed "Totem" but doesn't work!
[10:16] <scheuri> csacsi: what kind of file do you want to play?
[10:16] <farous> csacsi: where or how did you install realplayer?
[10:16] <dooglus> farous: run-with-aspell replaces ispell with aspell - but irssi uses neither, so it won't help, right?
[10:16] <Healot> !mp3
[10:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:16] <wiking> on mixer it give me 4 mixers, 1 of them work
[10:16] <farous> dooglus: hmm do not know
[10:16] <ani_max> HI. anyone know how to stop Ubuntu from checking all the fat32 partitions on boot everytime?
[10:16] <dooglus> farous: I think run-with-aspell only works for apps which already support spellchecking of some kind.  irssi doesn't.
[10:17] <wiking> on cd player options it give me jy=ust 1, wich do not work
[10:17] <csacsi> I have not tried 'rhytmbox'.  I'll give it a go.
[10:17] <farous> dooglus: ok thanx for the info :)
[10:17] <ani_max> csacsi: i setup mine from here --> http://digg.com/linux_unix/How_To_Get_Full_Multimedia_Support_in_Ubuntu
[10:17] <neutrinomass> csacsi: 'rhythmbox' (just pointing it out to save you from trouble)
[10:17] <screwston> i cant paste. i'm trying to copy my modified usb-storage in /usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko, to /lib/modules/2.6.12.10/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/ to replace the original, but it won't let me paste.
[10:18] <csacsi> That's just it!  It sits on my desktop, but won't install, as far as I can tell.
[10:18] <ani_max> Hi.  anyone know how to stop Ubuntu from checking all the fat32 partitions on boot everytime?
[10:18] <spades> remove the entry from /etc/fstab?
[10:18] <ani_max> spades: at me?
[10:19] <spades> yes
[10:19] <csacsi> I've tried 'Windows Media Player";  not success!
[10:19] <dooglus> ani_max: it should recheck each time.  are you shutting down cleanly, not just pulling the plug?
[10:19] <dooglus> ani_max: it shouldn't recheck each time I meant to say!
[10:19] <screwston> its weird, i wonder why i cant replace that file
[10:19] <ani_max> dooglus, even with proper shutdown. i have about 7 partitions. and its very bugging
[10:19] <arun1> are there any apps. in ubuntu to resize partitions
[10:20] <dooglus> ani_max: if you umount a partition and mount it again, does that do a recheck too?
[10:20] <wiking> on mixer it give me 4 mixers, 1 of them work
[10:20] <farous> dooglus: strange i have the same prob though and thought it is a daemon that so that was wondering how to disable it too
[10:20] <wiking> on cd player options it give me jy=ust 1, wich do not work
[10:20] <ani_max> dooglus, i dont know how to. installed ubuntu yesterday :)
[10:21] <dooglus> ani_max: pick a partition you're not using, and in a terminal run "sudo umount /path/to/mount/point"
[10:21] <farous> dooglus: in my case they are not checked but they are ready to be mount. i think udev is the guilty part
[10:21] <arun1> ubotu: resize paritition
[10:21] <dooglus> farous: what do you mean, ready to be mount?
[10:21] <farous> dooglus: they appear under computer in nautilus
[10:21] <sss> dooglus ,i dont understand it ,i wanna know if i want to install universe software, whether i need to modify my source list?
[10:22] <farous> dooglus: though i specifically did not mount them and do not want them be mounted
[10:22] <peritus> how can i bind a command to a keyboard binding, like run command xxx when i push ctrl+alt+x
[10:22] <scheuri> sss: yes, you need to
[10:22] <ani_max> dooglus, umm.. what do i type. sudo umount /hdb6  ? or something else
[10:22] <dooglus> sss: the /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be modified, yes.  there are 2 ways to do this:  1) use synaptic   2) edit it yourself
[10:22] <seatouch> !Vmware
[10:22] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[10:22] <scheuri> sss: the line, which allows you to install universe software is available, but commented
[10:22] <KenSentMe> peritus: system->preferences->shortcuts or something (i'm on dutch ubuntu)
[10:22] <dooglus> ani_max: "sudo umount /dev/hdb6" should do it
[10:23] <ani_max> thanks
[10:23] <sss> scheurihow to modify it?
[10:23] <dooglus> farous: look in /etc/fstab for the partitions.  paste one of the lines here
[10:23] <farous> ani_max: check it also in the /etc/fstab file or it will be mounted automatically next time you boot
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, ok done. but it will still come next time right?
[10:27] <farous> dooglus: it is not in fstab but which line you need me to past
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: are you familiar with command line?
[10:27] <peritus> KenSentMe: well, i have like "keyboard shortcuts" (im on swedish), but thats only preconfigures
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: yes.  I was going to suggest you re-mount it now and see if it checks it again:  "sudo mount /dev/hdb6"
[10:27] <dooglus> farous: it's not in /etc/fstab, but it's known by nautilus?
[10:27] <sss> scheuri,soso ,just tell me ,id like to try :)
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, remounted. nothing happened
[10:27] <farous> dooglus: yap
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: hrm, ok
[10:27] <pc_butler> I want to buy a new PC looking at amd any suggestions?
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, as in it just remounted. thats it
[10:27] <farous> neither fstab nor mtab
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: you need to open the file called sources.list as superuser -> "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:27] <csacsi> last night I downloaded 'Mepis', burnt onto CD, but my PC won't start from the PC, although it does from the 'Ubuntu' disk.  Has anyone tried it?  It's supposed to be very user friendly and is based on 'Ubuntu' , they say.
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: tell me if you have opened it
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: try this, if you've got time:  do the "sudo umount /dev/hdb(whatever)" for each of the FAT partitions, then reboot
[10:27] <farous> scheuri: nano is more newbie friendly then vi
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: and watch to see if it still does the check when you boot
[10:27] <scheuri> farous: I know, but I dont know nano that well...:)
[10:27] <farous> :)
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: running "mount | grep -i fat" will list the fat partitions that are mounted
[10:27] <KenSentMe> peritus: ah, i see. One moment
[10:27] <screwston> Anyone know why i can't replace my original usb-storage.ko, with a modified one?
[10:27] <Slaryn> Synaptic won't detect that any update-manager newer than 3.x is available, and thus I can't upgrade to DD... :/
[10:27] <ani_max> dooglus, ok. will do
[10:27] <Slaryn> Re-installing update-manager now
[10:27] <darkowl> hey guys I have Ati radeon X800XT and I installed ati drivers now...do I now only need to reconfigure xoorg or do I need anything else ?
[10:27] <scheuri> sss: still here?
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: this will tell us whether the problem is that the partition aren't being unmounted when you shut down, or whether the boot process is checking them even though they're cleanly umounted
[10:27] <sss> yea,im here
[10:27] <sss> ok
[10:27] <snoops> if you're not using xgl or compiz you should be able to get away with just reconfiguring xorg.conf darkowl
[10:27] <dooglus> ani_max: check with that "mount | grep -i fat" command to make sure you've got them all before rebooting
[10:27] <peritus> KenSentMe: all right. thanks
[10:28] <ani_max> dooglus, alright. got the list
[10:28] <Slaryn> Nobody ever answers my questions :/
[10:28] <scheuri> sss: opened the file? good...now with your arrow keys...finde the line that has ONE # at the beginning and a "universe" and "multiverse" in te line
[10:28] <dooglus> Slaryn: did you ask a question?
[10:28] <Slaryn> Many XD
[10:28] <darkowl> snoops: xgl or compiz ?
[10:28] <scheuri> Slaryn: give us time, will ya?
[10:28] <dooglus> Slaryn: I saw you make a statement, but didn't know what you wanted
[10:28] <vinboy> how do I take picture using my webcam?
[10:29] <Slaryn> My first question was like 30+ minutes ago :/
[10:29] <Slaryn> AKA my mouse won't detect.
[10:29] <dooglus> Slaryn: it's OK to ask again, but maybe nobody knows about that.
[10:29] <ani_max> dooglus, done. going to restart. brb
[10:29] <farous> !fixres > Slaryn
[10:29] <peritus> KenSentMe: i think i found i GUIDE to it. have to change things i gconf...
[10:29] <dooglus> ani_max: that mount command shows nothing now?
[10:30] <darkowl> snoops: you here anymore ?
[10:30] <darkowl> hey guys I have Ati radeon X800XT and I installed ati drivers now...do I now only need to reconfigure xoorg or do I need anything else ?
[10:30] <scheuri> sss: have you found the line(s)?
[10:30] <Slaryn> o_O Screen resolution info...?
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[10:35] (farous/#ubuntu) Slaryn: sorry
[10:35] (KenSentMe/#ubuntu) Slaryn: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:35] (farous/#ubuntu) its 4:35 here and have been marking an exam for 8 hours now
[10:35] (sss/#ubuntu) scheuri ,theres no #at any line
[10:35] <pc22>  whats with rpm packaging? any advantage of deb?
[10:36] (Locke/#ubuntu) no
[10:36] (scheuri/#ubuntu) sss: uuhmmm...well...there should...there are many comments in that file which start with a #
[10:36] <sss> scheuri,did u mean i have to go to the command line interface?
[10:37] <scheuri> sss: yes...CLI, then open the file with "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:37] <sss> oh,im in gnome
[10:37] <scheuri> sss: ah, sorry
[10:37] <Slaryn> Yes found the file, and backed it up, but I can't run that command unless I'm root... I can't seem to login as root though
[10:37] <sss> scheuri ,for wut
[10:37] <Slaryn> Username: root, password: same right?
[10:38] <ani_max> dooglus, it still the partitions
[10:38] <scheuri> sss: for not checking of you are on CLI or not...;)
[10:38] <farous> Slaryn: just type sudo infront of it
[10:38] <Slaryn> Ok.
[10:38] <farous> sudo dpkg-reconfigure
[10:38] <sss> :)
[10:38] <farous> ...
[10:38] <Slaryn> Got it, one moment
[10:38] <george_looney> query ubotu
[10:38] <Madpilot> Slaryn, no - there is no root pw by default in Ubuntu - have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:38] <sss> if im in command line now ,i cant talk to u with irc
[10:39] <snoops> I thought there was a password, but it was random Madpilot?
[10:39] <george_looney> Hello people
[10:39] <eclair> hey
[10:39] <scheuri> sss: ah wait...in gnome there is a possibility to open a small window with CLI
[10:39] <KenSentMe> george_looney: hi
[10:39] <scheuri> sss: gnome terminal
[10:39] <ctrlbreak> hi
[10:39] <KenSentMe> ctrlbreak: hi
[10:39] <Madpilot> snoops, yeah, but there's not difference between random & none, in practice. Anyway, there's not need for a root pw
[10:39] <sss> yea ,i know ,im in terminal
[10:39] <george_looney> is there anyone out here who is a Java hobbyist or learner and loves Ubuntu?
[10:40] <ajayc> ^richiefrich, hi
[10:40] <scheuri> sss: well then...just switch beetween chat and terminal...:)
[10:40] <^richiefrich> hi
[10:40] <Locke> george_looney, java people have the wrong mindset for lin ux
[10:40] <Locke> i think
[10:40] <ani_max> dooglus, you there? ubuntu still checked all the partitions
[10:40] <george_looney> Locke: Well, I know :)
[10:40] <sss> well ,scheuri ,ill show u what i saw
[10:40] <farous> ani_max: did you check that the paritions are not included in the /etc/fstab file
[10:41] <sss> just my source addresses
[10:41] <farous> ani_max: just comment the line that have them
[10:41] <george_looney> Locke: I've been on Linux for quiet sometime and I am learning Java for professional reasons
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> deb http://ubuntu.cn99.com/ubuntu-cn/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[10:41] <sss> ~
[10:41] <sss> ~
[10:41] <Locke> oh
[10:41] <Locke> well it works as well as in any other system
[10:41] <ajayc> sss, please dont repear
[10:41] <ani_max> farous, completey new so you'll have to tell where it is?
[10:41] <sss> sorry
[10:41] <Madpilot> sss, next time use pastebin for that - thanks
[10:41] <neutrinomass> !pastebin > sss
[10:41] <KenSentMe> !tell sss about paste
[10:41] <sss> just show sth
[10:41] <varicello> Why command GCC does not function in mine ubuntu ?
[10:41] <farous> ani_max: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:41] <sss> sorry
[10:42] <Madpilot> varicello, have you installed build-essential?
[10:42] <neutrinomass> varicello: Have you installed 'gcc' ?
[10:42] <george_looney> Locke: I'm looking for someone who can tell me if the free-java-sdk package is compatible enough with the Sun JDK
[10:42] <Slaryn> farous, I ran through a bunch of reconfiguration screens, still no mouse detection.
[10:42] <farous> then look at the lines for the partition you do not want mounted and put # infront of it to comment it
[10:42] <scheuri> sss: for me it looks like you have everything enabled! are you using synaptic for updates?
[10:42] <Locke> i dunno but i installed the sun java sdk
[10:42] <Locke> !easyubuntu
[10:42] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:42] <sss> yea ,sure
[10:42] <farous> Slaryn: check supported hardware as last resort
[10:42] <sss> scheuri
[10:42] <farous> !hardware
[10:42] <ani_max> farous, i want those partitions. i just dont want the disk check everytime
[10:42] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[10:42] <sss> i use sypnatic
[10:42] <Madpilot> sss, hit the Reload button in Synaptic
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: ah ok
[10:43] <george_looney> hmmmmm.....don't want to "taint" my Ubuntu box with the Sun JDK! /grin/
[10:43] <scheuri> sss: well, open synpatic and tell it to update or fetch new information or whatever (using CLI myself)...:)
[10:43] <sss> madpilot ,wut?
[10:43] <scheuri> Madpilot: thanks
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: it is supposed to be every 30 mounts
[10:43] <varicello> neutrinomass, How I check?
[10:43] <ani_max> farous, wont i stop them from appearing if i comment them?
[10:43] <george_looney> anyway I will go to java and see
[10:43] <george_looney> thanks again Locke
[10:43] <ani_max> farous, thats the problem. it checks every single time! even with a proper shutdown
[10:43] <farous> ani_max: if you comment them they wil not be automatically mountd
[10:43] <Locke> np
[10:43] <george_looney> ....and everyone else
[10:43] <sss> scheuri ,what information?it's just update
[10:44] <varicello> Madpilot, it is not standard of ubuntu?
[10:44] <farous> ani_max: there might be a problem with them that is why they are checked
[10:44] <scheuri> sss: whenever you add a new repository with new software, your computer needs to update its databse about this information...otherwise the applications are not offered for installation
[10:44] <ani_max> farous, hmm.. i could do that and then run a script inside ubuntu to mount them. is it possible?
[10:44] <Madpilot> varicello, what? gcc? No, it's not installed by default - install "build-essential" to get all the compiling tools
[10:44] <xsilva> te
[10:45] <ani_max> farous, windows never said anything.. but then again thta was 'Microsoft'. hehe
[10:45] <scheuri> sss: update and upgrade are not the same...:)
[10:45] <farous> ani_max: yes but lets go to the prob itself. if they are the only ones being checked then the fsck found a prob in them
[10:46] <sss> scheuri ,these source addresses are always in the list file since i install the ubuntu
[10:46] <ani_max> farous, i already doubt that one of my drive is kinda shaky but the other one is perfectly new and sound. and ubuntu still checks all
[10:46] <scheuri> sss: hmmm...have these sources addresses a # in front of them in that list file?
[10:46] <chills> hey al i just installed ubuntu and well how do i set up a root password
[10:46] <sss> i didnt changed it right now
[10:46] <chills> i dont think it asked me
[10:46] <sss> no ,
[10:46] <eobanb> !tell chills about root
[10:46] <Madpilot> chills, you don't need one. Use sudo & your own user pw
[10:46] <eobanb> !tell chills about sudo
[10:47] <finalbeta> ** (totem:6125): WARNING **: Failed to connect to the session bus: No reply within specified time, I changed the audio device and changed it back, now I got no more sound. help.
[10:47] <scheuri> sss: hmmm...wait a sec
[10:47] <Madpilot> eobanb, the bot's 'sudo' & 'root' tells are identical
[10:47] <chills> ah i see .. :)
[10:47] <sss> ok
[10:47] <xsilva> e
[10:47] <chills> so its different from rest of the distros
[10:47] <farous> ani_max: not necessarily if you are sure they are ok. sorry i do not know which cron job control that
[10:47] <eobanb> Madpilot, oh, they are now? hey were different before
[10:47] <eobanb> they*
[10:47] <farous> ani_max: was trying to look it  up for you
[10:47] <Madpilot> chills, yes - no root pw, Ubuntu is all set up to use sudo instead
[10:47] <KenSentMe> chills: yes it is. But it's all in the wiki pages ubotu sent you
[10:48] <farous> ani_max: try dmesg for error messages or boot in a splash less mode to see what is happening
[10:48] <chills> right 1 more thing guys.. how do i set up a dial up account
[10:48] <scheuri> sss: open synaptic please
[10:48] <chills> kppp isnt working.,,
[10:48] <Madpilot> chills, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto - I don't use dailup, though
[10:48] <ani_max> farous, ubuntu auto goes in splashless mode and gives error of non-matching fat copies in 1 partition
[10:49] <sss> scheuri,always opend
[10:49] <ani_max> farous, and says it is Not auto fixing it and checks the rest then which are ok
[10:49] <varicello> Madpilot, Where I catch complete it?
[10:49] <george_looney> hello again
[10:49] <scheuri> sss: okay...there is a menu option that allows you to add sources
[10:49] <chills> Madpilot: thats all i got ;)
[10:49] <farous> ani_max: you can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file and take out the splash line at the end of the boot line
[10:49] <Madpilot> varicello, where you what?
[10:49] <sss> where?
[10:49] <george_looney> can I remove the linux-386 meta package?
[10:50] <farous> ani_max: am sure there is something you can hit while booting but do nto which disable the splash screen
[10:50] <scheuri> sss: uuhmm...my synaptic is german, so I need to guess...;)...what are you menu points on top? file? what else?
[10:50] <RyHoo> Hello everybody, I have a problem with SKYPE for ubuntu. I have some credits but I cant call landlines. Under windoze everything works fine...
[10:50] <NET||abuse> hahh.. see that, Xandros 4 reads AND writes ntfs??
[10:50] <chills> conexant wont work right .. ?
[10:50] <scheuri> I really should stop using german software
[10:51] <Hexidigital_> NET||abuse:: i'm pretty sure mandriva is ntfs writeable also
[10:51] <compengi> how can i find bittorent
[10:51] <Flannel> NET||abuse: write isnt too stable yet, and if it is, it'll be in edgy (I think its slated for addition in edgy anyway), it wouldve been released too late for Dapper.
[10:51] <compengi> i have it but can't find it
[10:51] <pc_butler> I want to buy a new PC looking at amd any suggestions?
[10:51] <NET||abuse> hmm, well paragon softwares ntfs for linux is the package which allows it.
[10:51] <mnvl> Hexidigital_, to my knowledge it is not
[10:51] <Madpilot> scheuri, for help in German, try #ubuntu-de
[10:51] <chills> iam tying Kppp it wont work :\
[10:51] <compengi> pc_butler, no
[10:51] <compengi> pc_butler, amd is good
[10:51] <Slaryn> Eh, looks like a no-go on this mouse working.  Anyways, a different question... how can I get Synaptic to realize there are newer versions of packages?  I've reloaded a few times, but it still says update-manager 3.x is newest, although I need 4.something to update to Dapper.  Any suggestions?
[10:51] <ani_max> farous, only 2 lines are there with splash. one has # in front and other is this
[10:52] <scheuri> Madpilot: I dont need help in german...I try to help sss with an english synaptic whereas mine is in german...;)
[10:52] <ani_max> farous, kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-amd64-generic root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[10:52] <sss> scheuri, file ,edit ,package, configure, help
[10:52] <compengi> pc_butler,  what main you had choosen?
[10:52] <Madpilot> scheuri, ah, sorry :)
[10:52] <varicello> Madpilot, URL to download of the GCC?
[10:52] <scheuri> sss: configure!!!...do you have some sort of sources-option there?
[10:52] <farous> ani_max: you can delete splash at the end and you can put it if you wana enable or disable the splash screen
[10:52] <scheuri> Madpilot: no worries...:)
[10:52] <chills> Madpilot : how do i install Kppp without a net connection
[10:52] <Madpilot> varicello, do "sudo aptitude install build-essential" or look for build-essential in Synaptic
[10:52] <pc_butler> can i use ubuntu  with dvd's with litghscribe?
[10:52] <sss> actually,chinese here:)
[10:52] <farous> ani_max: sorry but got to go continue marking
[10:53] <farous> good luck
[10:53] <josh> JoshHendo letmein
[10:53] <scheuri> sss: oh my...;)
[10:53] <DoctorMO> hey all
[10:53] <compengi> how can i find bittorent that is installed on my os
[10:53] <ani_max> farous, ok deleting splach and rebooting
[10:53] <sss> hold on,bro
[10:53] <josh> register letmein
[10:53] <scheuri> sss: aye
[10:53] <DoctorMO> my sound has stoped working, what should I do to get it working again?
[10:53] <pc_butler> compengi, what do you suggest?
[10:53] <Hexidigital_> !register > josh
[10:53] <farous> DoctorMO: check you are in audio group. in a terminal type groups
[10:54] <pc_butler> compengi, amd +2600
[10:54] <ani_max> farous_out, prob. i was using normal text editor and it wont let me change the read-only mode
[10:54] <compengi> pc_butler, wait
[10:54] <compengi> pc_butler, let me give you a link
[10:54] <DoctorMO> farous: audio group is in the list
[10:54] <varicello> Madpilot, thanks
[10:54] <xukun> hmm sinds I upgraded to dapper no print jobs are coming out from my work printer. It looks it prints but nothings comes out of the printer. I,m using ipp in Cups/client.conf
[10:54] <george_looney> !java > george_looney
[10:54] <Madpilot> varicello, np
[10:55] <ani_max> ok. anyone know how i can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst  ?
[10:55] <sss> scheuri ,wut u mean?
[10:55] <Slaryn> So no ideas on why my pkg manager is being strange?
[10:55] <RyHoo> did anyone have a problem with skype calling landlines? under windows my account works fine. under ubuntu i can call skype->skype
[10:55] <scheuri> sss: in option "configure" what is available as options?
[10:56] <george_looney> ani_max: sudo vi /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:56] <Schalken> i know this is kinda off topic: but is there a linux distribution made for PDAs?
[10:56] <scheuri> RyHoo: maybe its the version....windows has skype 2, linux does not
[10:56] <ani_max> george_looney, thanks
[10:57] <chills> so guys how do i install Kppp without a net connection
[10:57] <george_looney> ani_max: URW
[10:57] <snoops> yeah.. skype for linux is is crap :( *frustration*
[10:57] <RyHoo> scheuri: I have two accounts on skype. One works fine.
[10:57] <scheuri> snoops: there is still openwengo...but well
[10:57] <DoctorMO> snoops, don't use skype, it's propritory formats will be the death of us all
[10:57] <george_looney> chills: get someelse to download it for you
[10:58] <sss> scheuri ,preferences,softpreferences and so on
[10:58] <s|k> really?
[10:58] <s|k> skype sucks?
[10:58] <chills> george_looney : can i download it on windows ?
[10:58] <s|k> what is there for voice talk if not skype?
[10:58] <scheuri> sss: softpreferences...take that
[10:58] <ani_max> george_looney, it opens the file in terminal only. how do i save it?
[10:58] <george_looney> chills: Yep
[10:58] <chills> k thanks
[10:58] <sss> ok ,and?
[10:58] <SVisor> Skype might be propriotory. But its the one used. Even some companies have started to use it.
[10:58] <george_looney> ani_max: do you know to use vi??
[10:58] <scheuri> s|k: openwengo
[10:59] <DoctorMO> SVisor, doesn't make it any less dangerous
[10:59] <ani_max> geroge, no. in fact nothing in ububtu
[10:59] <scheuri> sss: you should now see a list of all your repositories...right?
[10:59] <snoops> DoctorMO, yeah that's nice and all but the reason people are using it is because their friends and family are using and their friends and family and their friends and family.. one person spouting about proprietry formats being the death of us all, and refusing to use it.. well those people are pretty much ignored
[10:59] <ani_max> *george_looney: oops :)
[10:59] <sss> scheuri yep, same with the sources.list
[10:59] <SVisor> DoctorMO: No thats true, but what are the options. That you talk to your self?
[10:59] <DoctorMO> snoops, rather be ignored than not free.
[10:59] <george_looney> ani_max: don't type anything
[11:00] <chills> What dial up installer comes with default in ubuntu
[11:00] <RyHoo> scheuri: I have funds on both Skype accounts. On the first one I can call landline under Win and Ubuntu. On the second it works only in Windows...
[11:00] <scheuri> sss: good okay...now "add" and make sure the "multiverse" and "universe" ticks are ticked
[11:00] <george_looney> ani_max: let me get you out of this one :)
[11:00] <scheuri> RyHoo: sorry...cant help...dont use skype that often
[11:00] <ani_max> george_looney, hehe.. ok. cant i just close the terminal window?
[11:00] <scheuri> snoops: they wont ignored when skype asks for money
[11:01] <sss> scheuri ,all of them had been ticked long long ago
[11:01] <george_looney> ani_max: umm, you could, but just do this, type the following - :q!
[11:01] <scheuri> sss: then, I am afraid, I dont what else...:(
[11:01] <george_looney> ani_max: thats "colon" lowercase "w" followed by "bang"
[11:01] <RyHoo> scheuri: thanks for trying... Maybe someune else can help. I dont want to use windoze
[11:02] <finalbeta> Hmm, I kindoff broke my sound. In alsamixer the master channel no longer has effect on the sound, only PCM.
[11:02] <george_looney> RyHoo: WINE maybe!!?
[11:02] <sss> so this is why i feel so strange about linux
[11:02] <snoops> and when and if it changes then have a look around.. isolating yourself from people because of that is of no real choice.. just makes you a bitter old man later in life
[11:02] <snoops> :)
[11:02] <sss> it's too hard to install a software, i almost cant take it
[11:02] <scheuri> sss: well, in my opinion we made everything to make sure you have universe and multiverse enabled...
[11:03] <farabove> I am looking for an webmail client. We have already an ISP with an webmail client but i sucks big time.. Its importent that it is not downloading the mail cause we are using Osx Mail and outlook so is chuld just be an supliment to what we use to day.. What shuld i go for ?
[11:03] <sss> yea ,
[11:03] <scheuri> sss: it is not hard, if software is in repository...what is the software you want to install?
[11:03] <DoctorMO> no but standing by your principles is important, if someone wants to talk to me they can use free alternatives or walk up to me and have a chat.
[11:03] <sss> R
[11:03] <ani_max> george, ok. it said -> "/boot/grub/menu.lst" 146L, 4103C written
[11:03] <sss> A STAT SOFTWARE
[11:03] <scheuri> sss: no need to shout...(capital letters)...a stat software? sorry...
[11:03] <DoctorMO> farabove, have you tried gmail?
[11:03] <scheuri> sss: what is the name?
[11:04] <DoctorMO> farabove, or are you after the server software?
[11:04] <ani_max> george_looney, hmm.. xchat keeps skipping nick completion.. :?
[11:04] <sss> JUST R
[11:04] <farabove> doctorMO: we have mail accounts today..
[11:04] <namikata> hello, is crimsun still here?
[11:04] <george_looney> ani_max: I'm not on xchat, sorry :(
[11:04] <sss> somebody told me there is a r-base in source ,i cant find it
[11:04] <chills> HEY what default dialup wizard ccomes with unbuntu
[11:05] <chills> ubuntu*
[11:05] <george_looney> ani_max: have you closed that terminal?
[11:05] <Slaryn> Anybody know why my wireless connection is randomly refusing websites?
[11:05] <scheuri> sss: there is...r-base...i hav it
[11:05] <ani_max> george_looney, no
[11:05] <george_looney> ani_max: I hop you are in X Window (GUI)
[11:05] <scheuri> sss: well, I have it not installed, but it is offered to me
[11:05] <void^> !info r-base
[11:05] <ubotu> r-base: GNU R statistical computing language and environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.2.1-2 (dapper), package size 20 kB, installed size 56 kB
[11:05] <george_looney> ani_max: ok , just close the terminal then
[11:05] <farabove> DoctorMO, we have our own domains etc so it shuld just be an easy way to read our mail on the roade
[11:05] <farabove> is ther a channel for ubuntu server?
[11:05] <ani_max> george_looney, now just restart?
[11:05] <DoctorMO> farabove, ok sounds like you want the webmail software.
[11:06] <george_looney> ani_max: huh1!
[11:06] <farabove> yeah
[11:06] <darkowl> do any of you have ati x800xt card and it works with your ubuntu ?
[11:06] <sss> scheuri , u found it in source?
[11:06] <darkowl> because I cant get it to work
[11:06] <farabove> DoctorMO, do you have a client to recomend ?
[11:07] <george_looney> ani_max: No need to restart
[11:07] <george_looney> ani_max: clsoe the terminal with the vi command
[11:07] <SVisor> darkowl: both x700 and x800 cards are in trouble on Ubuntu. No to me known work arounds, unless ATI have released a proprietary driver for em.
[11:07] <scheuri> sss: well...do you mean source as in "installing it with synpatic" or source as in "sourc code to download"?
[11:07] <DoctorMO> farabove, nothing that I've used, but you could do a package search: apt-cache search webmail pulls up some results
[11:07] <ani_max> george_looney, no? how do i check the bootup then?
[11:07] <sss> sypnatic
[11:07] <DoctorMO> farabove, you prob' want one for apache
[11:08] <george_looney> ani_max: start a new terminal and give this command -- sudo -b gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:08] <scheuri> sss: yes, I have searched in synaptic and I found it
[11:08] <sss> :(
[11:08] <darkowl> SVisor: what can I do ? Can I ask ATI support about this problem ?
[11:08] <george_looney> ani_max: yeah restart if want to check
[11:08] <sss> scheuri ,fine ,ill find it again ,
[11:08] <scheuri> sss: check wiki.ubuntu.com and search for "universe"
[11:09] <scheuri> sss: to make sure universe is enabled for you
[11:09] <george_looney> ani_max: I will be back in 15...gotta munch on lunch
[11:09] <ani_max> george_looney, aha. much better now. thanks!
[11:09] <ani_max> george_looney, cool
[11:09] <george_looney> ani_max: Great :)
[11:09] <SVisor> darkowl: Do not know how well ATI response on Linux questions, but you could try that, or ...
[11:09] <SVisor> !ATI
[11:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:09] <george_looney> later
[11:09] <sss> scheuri,we still cant make sure it yet?
[11:10] <finalbeta> Can someone please tell me what the value for default in and out is in the "Select multimedia" dialog box from the prefferences menu? changed something wrong
[11:10] <scheuri> sss: well, I did what I could...you should really consult the webpage to make sure your universe repository is enabled!
[11:10] <darkowl> SVisor: well... They should answer or Ill tell them that ill charge them because on the box of my card it doesnt say that it doesnt support linux :)
[11:11] <sss> ok
[11:11] <SVisor> darkowl: Try to install (using the web URL as docs) the prop. drivers. Worked great for my 9700 card
[11:11] <sss> thanku scheuri
[11:11] <scheuri> sss: no worries
[11:11] <starter> hello
[11:11] <starter> I have a problem with kubuntu, after the bootup sequence, it enters xwindows, I can hear the sound, but the screen goes black
[11:11] <darkowl> SVisor i installed ati drivers using easyubuntu
[11:11] <starter> the computer is 2000+ Athlon, GeForce 4 MX440, 256 DDRAM
[11:12] <sss> scheuri ,give me your source adresses
[11:12] <SVisor> darkowl: And still no working X?
[11:12] <darkowl> no
[11:12] <SVisor> ubuntu: tell SVisor easyubuntu
[11:12] <scheuri> sss: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[11:13] <darkowl> !esyubuntu
[11:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about esyubuntu
[11:13] <SVisor> !easyubuntu
[11:13] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:13] <farous_out> sss: did you solve your problem
[11:13] <darkowl> !easyubuntu
[11:13] <scheuri> farous_out: nope...I was not able to help
[11:13] <sss> scheuri,just one?
[11:13] <farous_out> scheuri: perhaps if we just give him a command line for it
[11:13] <finalbeta> Can someone tell me the two values on the audio tab of "gstreamer-properties". Changed something from default I think.
[11:13] <augn> hmm.  Is it any easier than Automatix?
[11:13] <sss> farous ,nott yet
[11:13] <scheuri> farous_out: to add it in sources.list?
[11:13] <SVisor> darkowl: Havent used those scripts so I do not know anything about em.
[11:14] <SVisor> darkowl: What happens when you start X?
[11:14] <sss> scheuri ,im using dappar
[11:14] <darkowl> I get an error
[11:14] <scheuri> sss: that is oka
[11:14] <Ng> !automatix > augn
[11:14] <augn> anyway-  Hi, I installed Ubuntu (amd64 Dapper with k8 kernel) for the first time on Friday.  It's looking good.  The last couple releases I had tried couldn't install.
[11:15] <SVisor> darkowl: Well that kind of an answer does not help me anything. What kind of error? "No screen found"?
[11:15] <darkowl> yes
[11:15] <finalbeta> Can someone tell me the two values on the audio tab of "gstreamer-properties". Changed something from default I think. Please, it's 20 secs work, saves me houres.
[11:15] <SVisor> darkowl: What does: fgrep "(EE)" /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:16] <SVisor> darkowl: Wht does that CLI command tell you.
[11:16] <Keal> i couldnt get ubuntu to work
[11:16] <sss> scheuri ,i got another problem
[11:16] <sss> r u there
[11:17] <Keal> it simplky spewed diarreah throughout my laptop
[11:17] <scheuri> sss: sort of...:)
[11:17] <farous_out> sss in a terminal type, sudo echo "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe" >> /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install r-base
[11:17] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: in the literal sense?
[11:17] <augn> mentioning Automatix caused an automsg which says using it could wreck my system.  It gave me a link, but there was no info about it at the site.  Is there any truth to the claim?
[11:17] <Keal> is there like massive prollems with ubuntu and amd64
[11:17] <Ng> augn: that wasn't an automsg, I asked the channel bot to send you that
[11:17] <scheuri> Hexidigital_: that was GROSS!
[11:18] <jsgotangco> Keal: please be specific
[11:18] <augn> oh, thanks Ng :)
[11:18] <Keal> especially massive prollems with amd64 plus 1280x844
[11:18] <Hexidigital_> scheuri:: sorry... now that i reflect, it really was
[11:18] <Ng> augn: it's the advice we give people who ask about automatix in here. some people (notably the automatix authors) dispute the claims, but as the message points out, reading the docs and doing things yourself is always a better option anyway :)
[11:18] <scheuri> Hexidigital_: ;)
[11:18] <jsgotangco> Keal: that's not an amd64 issue then, its rather an xorg issue
[11:18] <darkowl> SVisor: you have private message
[11:18] <Keal> wht is xorg?
[11:19] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: what chipset for video? intel?
[11:19] <farous_out> sss: how is it going
[11:19] <dibblego> how can I boot to a console only?
[11:19] <SVisor> darkowl: Nope....
[11:19] <Keal> video is ati radeon xpress 200m
[11:19] <sss> fauous,whether i need to delate my currently source addresses?
[11:19] <augn> Ng: yeah.  Since I've never been heavily into Linux and am planning on doing some web development using tools that I haven't yet chosen, I'm resigned to the fact that I'll be doing some reinstalls anyway
[11:19] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: sorry, no experience with ATI here...
[11:19] <augn> Ng: so it might not be a big issue for me :)
[11:19] <finalbeta> Can someone tell me the two values on the audio tab of "gstreamer-properties". Please, it's 20 secs work, saves me houres.
[11:19] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: did you install the x64 version of Ubuntu?
[11:20] <Keal> no
[11:20] <farous_out> sss: you do not need to delete it the command i sent just append the multiverse line to your sources.list file
[11:20] <Ng> augn: there is also easyubuntu, which doesn't get recommended against in here
[11:20] <Ng> !easyubuntu > augn
[11:20] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: i'm not certain, but that may be the problem
[11:20] <darkowl> SVisor: send me some message...dont know why it doesnt work...
[11:20] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: there is a 64 bit version available
[11:20] <yacek> hello
[11:20] <augn> personally, I don't see what's particularly hard about Synaptic
[11:20] <farous_out> sss: you can check it it is the last line in the file
[11:20] <Keal> i have every single cd for ubuntu in existence sitting on my desk
[11:20] <scheuri> finalbeta: where do I find those properties?
[11:20] <augn> the biggest trouble with Synaptic is that the list is too damn big
[11:20] <yacek> when I run applications from console I get this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, how to solve it?
[11:20] <crimsun> finalbeta: Default Output Plugin -> Autodetect, Default Input Plugin -> ALSA
[11:20] <augn> but maybe there's something I don't know
[11:21] <SVisor> darkowl: Maybe a bug in this client... give me a sec, Ill switch
[11:21] <Keal> half the cds were corrupt when i got them
[11:21] <wiking> computer say that i am not in sudoers file, what i can do?
[11:21] <finalbeta> crimsun, thank you!
[11:21] <Hexidigital_> !ubuntu64
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu64
[11:21] <Hexidigital_> hmm
[11:21] <farous_out> Hexidigital_: there is a special thread on the forums for 64 proces
[11:21] <Beta_M> when i talk on skype people can hear the echo of themselves, how do i stop output being used as the input
[11:21] <Hexidigital_> farous_out:: thanks
[11:21] <farous_out> :)
[11:21] <BCK14> is there a way to install ubuntu in txt mode?
[11:21] <BCK14> ?
[11:22] <Ng> BCK14: download the alternate install cd
[11:22] <crimsun> BCK14: yes the alternate installer
[11:22] <farous_out> Beta_M: are you talking about muting the mic
[11:22] <BCK14> but that installs the gui right?
[11:22] <wiking> computer say that i am not in sudoers file, what i can do?
[11:22] <Keal> its sad how easy it is to create an instant messenger software from scratch
[11:22] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: give me one second... i'll find you a link
[11:22] <yacek> when I run applications from console I get this X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, how to solve it?
[11:22] <Ng> BCK14: ahh, you probably want to do a server install then :)
[11:22] <augn> beta: as a first attempt, I'd buy a headset (so that there's no feedback on your end)
[11:22] <Beta_M> farous_out:  not really, i'm talking about not using the output of the soundcard as the input
[11:22] <woo> Hello
[11:23] <BCK14> Ng: i have a pc it seems to lag real bad with live cd
[11:23] <woo> I'm having a problem installing Dapper Drake.
[11:23] <Beta_M> farous_out:  because ppl can hear themselves
[11:23] <BCK14> but i want gui etc...
[11:23] <Keal> i dont want to install ubuntu unless it is guaranteed to work flawlessly
[11:23] <Tobbygnome> i am having ubuntu sound problems
[11:23] <Ng> BCK14: the live cd is usually slower because it's using very basic, but very compatible graphics drivers
[11:23] <scheuri> Keal: try live cd?
[11:23] <wiking> computer say that i am not in sudoers file, what i need to do?
[11:23] <augn> about that server install... I was quite disappointed when it booted up with no gui :)
[11:23] <Tobbygnome> as soon as i installed it
[11:23] <Keal> i did use live cd
[11:23] <farous_out> Beta_M: ah ok. i think you just have good mic
[11:23] <woo> When I try to install it, It hangs at "Configuring some Drivers"... Can anyone help?
[11:23] <farous_out> ;)
[11:23] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189683&highlight=64+bit+processor
[11:23] <BCK14> i know Ng but this is almost unbearable
[11:23] <farous_out> sss: i presume everything is ok
[11:23] <Keal> i got ubuntu at the store and the live cd was corrupt
[11:23] <Keal> gui stuff didnt work
[11:24] <Keal> and it diareahed all over my console
[11:24] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: what version?
[11:24] <woo> Anyone?
[11:24] <Keal> let me check
[11:24] <Ng> BCK14: the alternate install CD runs the installer in a console
[11:24] <Hexidigital_> woo:: patience please... we may be finding an answer, or answering other questions
[11:24] <BCK14> ok
[11:24] <SVisor> woo: Not much to go on. Could be anything.
[11:24] <Tobbygnome> (i am having ubuntu sound problems as soon as i installed it)
[11:25] <sss> farous ,seems working ,wow
[11:25] <BCK14> Ng: it installs gui tho right?
[11:25] <farous_out> sss: cool
[11:25] <Ng> BCK14: yep
[11:25] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: let me know if that helps
[11:25] <woo> SVisor: What are some of the common causes?
[11:25] <BCK14> ty Ng
[11:25] <farous_out> sss: now you need to do some reading to understand linux and ubuntu visit help.ubuntu.com and get familiar with it
[11:25] <Keal> apparently ubuntu cds are able to run away and or spontaneously combust >.<
[11:25] <woo> SVisor: Breezy installed fine.
[11:25] <augn> Does anyone know how I can verify that I'm running with multiprocessor (ie. smp) support?  I installed the amd64-k8-smp kernel package in Synaptic, but the kernel that appears in Grub on bootup just says amd-k8, so I'm not sure what I've got.
[11:26] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: can't find them?
[11:26] <Keal> yes
[11:26] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: do you know if it was breezy or dapper?
[11:26] <Keal> cant find em :(
[11:26] <Ng> augn: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:26] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: they were printed on that invisible plastic stuff :-D
[11:26] <Keal> more likely dapper but i dont think it was either
[11:26] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: does hoary sound familiar?
[11:26] <SVisor> woo: Have you tried to boot into the single user mode (safe mode?)
[11:26] <Keal> nope
[11:27] <Keal> ububtu. for people that dont care about having a working machine.
[11:27] <Keal> :P
[11:27] <wiking> computer say that i am not in sudoers file, what i need to do?
[11:27] <woo> SVisor: Yes, it still hangs.
[11:27] <sss> farous ,people told me ,i'd better not using different sources semotaneously ,but the source u gave me is different with mine,why?
[11:27] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: depending on when you got them, you may have picked up a release of Dapper that was before the official release date...
[11:27] <farous_out> wiking: are you the sole user of the pc
[11:27] <scheuri> Keal: I care, and ubuntu gave me a working machine....:)
[11:28] <Keal> it started up with ubuntu in bubble letters in some sort of scab color graphics
[11:28] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: i've been using ubuntu for 10 months now, and i haven't had any *major* problems that weren't irreversible
[11:28] <farous_out> sss: you are using a mirror what i gave to you is the main. normally it is faster to use a mirror
[11:28] <wiking> what is sole user?
[11:28] <Hexidigital_> wiking:: you mean root?
[11:28] <wiking> no
[11:29] <Keal> Hexidigital_ it started up with ubuntu in bubble letters in some sort of scab color graphics
[11:29] <chills> hey how should i install a dialup wizard?
[11:29] <N00B> Tomcat_ ^^ U R from germany?
[11:29] <SVisor> woo: Though one. Im stumped. Not that used to Ubuntu to be able to tell what this could be.
[11:29] <farous_out> wiking: who installed ubuntu. the first user created is the one who can add you to sudors
[11:29] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: i am not sure what release that is... anyway, what type of conneciton are you on
[11:29] <woo> SVisor: :(
[11:29] <wiking> i was install it yesterday
[11:29] <sss> but i use two different sources  semotaneously,
[11:30] <ekin> hello but  i am going to dentist byyyy
[11:30] <Keal> why would that matter i am not wasting time downloading something that wont work. ill just nab another 7 cd packs at the store 60% of which will be a corrupt cd or two
[11:30] <monomaniacpat> can anyone help me with kbd issues on dapper gnome?
[11:30] <farous_out> sss: you can edit or comment simultaneous sources.
[11:30] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: did you say you bought the install discs?
[11:30] <Keal> yes
[11:30] <farous_out> sss: generally it won't cause probs if mirrors are sync
[11:30] <Keal> they were 15$ each
[11:30] <woo> ...
[11:30] <woo> Haha
[11:31] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: you have been had
[11:31] <woo> That's illegal too.
[11:31] <farous_out> wiking: so most prob you removed yourself. login from the account of he first user you created
[11:31] <Hexidigital_> ubuntu is FREE
[11:31] <Keal> every compusa i have been to sells them for 15$
[11:31] <farous_out> wiking: then open system> admin >users and groups> and give your account admin rights
[11:31] <Keal> it says marked down from '38.99'
[11:31] <woo> ROFL
[11:32] <Hexidigital_> woo:: do you think the ubuntu team should be notified about that?
[11:32] <monomaniacpat> here's my bug report: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50990/+index
[11:32] <sss> farous ,they told me if i use two sources simultaneously,it'll make the confusion of sources
[11:32] <Keal> i am joking
[11:32] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: you are being ripped off
[11:32] <woo> Hexidigital_: Yeah.
[11:32] <Keal> of course they were free
[11:32] <woo> ...
[11:32] <jsgotangco> Hexidigital_: there are ubuntu cds being sold in amazon (the DVD ones)
[11:32] <Keal> they did almost tackle me at the door thinking i stole them tho
[11:32] <farous_out> sss: most probably you did not enable universe in your sourcelist.
[11:33] <sss> how to enable it
[11:33] <farous_out> sss: generate a new source list and replace yours
[11:33] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: okay... first thing that wasn't funny... second, i suggest a download of the 64bit version (since this is AFTER the official release date)
[11:33] <farous_out> !easysource > sss
[11:33] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: i dont think they are allowed to do that
[11:33] <farous_out> sss: read ubotu pm
[11:33] <wiking> i am opening system> admin> users and groups - computer ask password, i write it > ok > nothing
[11:33] <farous_out> got to go now take care
[11:33] <jsgotangco> Hexidigital_: they are
[11:33] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: unless they are charging shipping only
[11:33] <farous_out> wiking: do you put your user passwd
[11:33] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: do you have a link?
[11:33] <Keal> you guys are just so paranoid about people paying for them you thoguht i actually said i did so i played along :P
[11:33] <jsgotangco> Hexidigital_: mostly yes
[11:34] <jsgotangco> Hexidigital_: these are pressed DVDs ,not the ones from shipiti
[11:34] <Ng> Keal: please try to remember that the people in here helping you are volunteers. your attitude towards them will greatly affect how much help you get
[11:34] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: i was watching out for you... i'm not going to let someone pay for something they dont have to pay for
[11:34] <Ng> also, there is no reason why one can't sell ubuntu CDs
[11:34] <chills> hey how do i install dial up installer ?
[11:34] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: just might be covering the cost of the dvds plus shipping... a link would be handy, if you have one
[11:34] <jsgotangco> Hexidigital_: it is consigned by Canonical
[11:34] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: oh, ok
[11:34] <Keal> if i had paid for them i would have sued you guys or asked for my money back 2x :P
[11:34] <jsgotangco> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62IDU/qid=1151400858/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/104-2305278-8436727?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=229534
[11:34] <wiking> wich else i can put?
[11:35] <Keal> the cd's were corrupt
[11:35] <monomaniacpat> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/50990/+index - anyone?
[11:35] <Hexidigital_> jsgotangco:: thanks
[11:35] <Keal> :)
[11:35] <Keal> but all is okay
[11:35] <Keal> i am trying to remember the name of the release
[11:35] <woo> Hexidigital_: Do you have any ideas what could the hang?
[11:35] <farous_out> guys i think this is better in ubuntu-offtopic lets keep the channel for support
[11:36] <larh> where can i learn about wine
[11:36] <wiking> ok, i try one more time > err - Filed to run users-admin: Child terminated with 1 status
[11:36] <Keal> one cd said dapper
[11:36] <wiking> ...
[11:36] <Keal> another said something else
[11:36] <Keal> something you havent listed yet :/
[11:36] <farous_out> wiking: are you using the account you created when you first installed ubuntu
[11:36] <Hexidigital_> Keal:: Live?
[11:36] <Keal> no
[11:36] <Hexidigital_> woo:: still searching
[11:37] <Keal> one said install one said live in each of the 7 releases
[11:37] <wiking> farous_out: i have already one account
[11:37] <Keal> i got all 7 at the same time
[11:37] <Hexidigital_> anyone know how to boot in verbose mode?
[11:37] <farous_out> got to go now
[11:37] <Keal> is there a release called glob ? ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
[11:38] <farous_out> !ops
[11:38] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:38] <Ng> Hexidigital_: remove the "quiet splash" items from the kernel line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:38] <woo> Hexidigital_: I'm trying right now, to boot with noapic nolapic.
[11:38] <rob> ?
[11:38] <Keal> since my cds are missing i come back when i find them
[11:38] <apokryphos> farous_out: ?
[11:38] <sss> farous ,your adrress is not appended in my sources.list
[11:38] <Hexidigital_> woo:: do what ng said above what you said....
[11:38] <woo> Hexidigital_: Damn, still hung.
[11:39] <woo> Hexidigital_: k one sex
[11:39] <woo> erm
[11:39] <Hexidigital_> Ng:: is there a way to edit that if the pc will not boot? (i'm helping woo)
[11:39] <woo> sec
[11:39] <frank_b> how can one see the contents of  deb package without installing it?
[11:39] <g-nome> how can i install a .deb package with APTITUDE ?
[11:39] <farous_out> apokryphos: i think the room need some dicipline too much talk of unrelated support topics
[11:39] <sss> farous ?
[11:39] <farous_out> sss: ?
[11:39] <apokryphos> farous_out: please only use !ops in emergencies
[11:39] <sss> farous ,your adrress is not appended in my sources.list
[11:39] <rob> I'm getting rather sick of people abusing that
[11:39] <g-nome> frank_b: right click and open with archive manager
[11:40] <apokryphos> farous_out: abusing it is a very quick way to get banned
[11:40] <wiking> farous_out: what else?
[11:40] <frank_b> g-nome, ah, thanks :)
[11:40] <Ng> Hexidigital_: when you see the grub menu, you can hit "e" to edit the boot entry (the keys you can use are listed at the bottom)
[11:40] <farous_out> sss: check the end of the file
[11:40] <woo> Hexidigital_: k, yeah, now stuff is jumping across the screen. :-P
[11:40] <stefg> monomaniacpat: iirc you had an unclean upgrade to dapper, isn't it? This is not a good basis for a bugreport, since it's more likely that there's some configuration broken. Do an sudo apt-get -f install first to see, if all dependencies are met and packs configured
[11:40] <Hexidigital_> woo:: ok, lemme know when it hangs
[11:40] <sss> farous ,i did it
[11:40] <Hexidigital_> Ng:: thanks
[11:40] <farous_out> apokryphos: am not abusing it was a last resort to restore the room to support quest
[11:40] <farous_out> apokryphos: sorry for the misunderstanding though
[11:40] <g-nome> how can i install a .deb package with APTITUDE ? so that it does remember what dependencies were also installed with it....
[11:40] <frank_b> g-nome, it gives an error...
[11:40] <apokryphos> farous_out: no it wasn't, and it certainly wasn't an emergency. Please do not abuse it in the future.
[11:41] <woo> Hexidigital_: It hung, right after is said done..
[11:41] <monomaniacpat> stefg: OK, what does that do exactly?
[11:41] <sss> farous ,only my old addresses there
[11:41] <Hexidigital_> wow
[11:41] <woo> Hexidigital_: Right above it is "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..."
[11:41] <stefg> monomaniacpat: i won't explain things you can easily< read in the docs
[11:41] <void^> sss: just paste it in there, use sudo nano -w /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <Hexidigital_> hmmm
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> Ng:: did you see what woo said?
[11:42] <Hexidigital_> any ideas?
[11:42] <farous_out> apokryphos: am not abusing and am leaving seems dicipline is not in the room. am not a child to abuse
[11:42] <woo> Hexidigital_: And before that, it's talking about my nic.
[11:42] <Ng> Hexidigital_: I haven't been following it, sorry
[11:42] <frank_b> g-nome, but maybe it's a problem with the file itself. it might not be a deb package after all. I'll have to check it
[11:42] <woo> Hexidigital_: It's not frozen either. It just won't keep going.
[11:42] <g-nome> frank_b: no, it does the same for me
[11:42] <g-nome> hmm
[11:43] <wiking> farous_out: what is a root pass as default?
[11:43] <frank_b> g-nome, oh
[11:43] <monomaniacpat> stefg: it says there are 2 not upgraded
[11:43] <Hexidigital_> Ng:: after it "Begin: Running /scripst/init-bottom...", his system hangs... do you know what is supposed to happen next?
[11:43] <SVisor> !root
[11:43] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:43] <g-nome> how can i install a .deb package with APTITUDE ? so that it does remember what dependencies were also installed with it....
[11:43] <frank_b> g-nome, it looks like a misture of an html and script file if I open it with text editor...
[11:43] <stefg> aha... so dist-upgrade first and watch out for error-messages
[11:43] <sss> void ,it's not about i want that address,it's about why i used it but it is not in the list now
[11:43] <ompaul> wiking, there is none please read wiki.ubuntu.com/SudoRoot
[11:44] <monomaniacpat> stefg: I can run dist upgrade again?
[11:44] <stefg> of course
[11:44] <frank_b> g-nome, and I just checked and it works on another deb package
[11:44] <frank_b> g-nome, it's the file
[11:44] <void^> sss: so, edit the list, put it in there?
[11:44] <monomaniacpat> stefg: OK, didn't think that was possible. Thanks.
[11:44] <g-nome> frank_b: hehe, funny because it does also not for me
[11:44] <g-nome> frank_b: what is the file?
[11:45] <stefg> monomaniacpat: apt is _the GREAT thing_ in all debian-flavoured distros... Trust it :-)
[11:45] <liouba> hello where can i find help in french please?
[11:45] <ompaul> !fr
[11:45] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:45] <liouba> merci
[11:45] <Hexidigital_> woo:: lemme get to my desktop (give me a couple minutes... my laptop is running out of juice)
[11:45] <frank_b> g-nome, which one? the one that I can see?
[11:45] <g-nome> frank no, the one you can't
[11:45] <sss> void ,i just feel strange why i used it just now ,but it is not in the list ,im not want that address ,i already have a source
[11:45] <Inferus> Hia all
[11:45] <woo> njan: Any ideas?
[11:46] <woo> erm
[11:46] <woo> Ng: Any ideas?
[11:46] <Keal> i figured it out! one was dapper 1.7 or something like that the other was heath or whatnot 1.4 i think
[11:46] <RancidLM> hey all any one here have experance with the hosts file?
[11:46] <g-nome> frank_b: is it opera?
[11:46] <frank_b> g-nome, it's the suposly deb package in http://www.speedyshare.com/599428432.html
[11:46] <Keal> which version of ubuntu is 1.4 and which is 1.7
[11:47] <Keal> one was dapper the other heath or whatnot
[11:47] <g-nome> How can I install a .deb package with APTITUDE ? (So that it does remember what dependencies were also installed with it...)
[11:47] <Keal> is it illgal to sell an original dapper realease disc on ebay ? :/
[11:47] <Ng> Keal: neither of those are ubuntu releases
[11:47] <Ng> Keal: it is not illegal to sell ubuntu, but you are quite off-topic for this channel
[11:47] <frank_b> g-nome, seems that I downloaded it wrongly... I'll try again
[11:48] <Keal> this is #ubuntu i thought ?
[11:48] <Inferus> Keal this is a support channel
[11:48] <Ng> Keal: this is a support channel, not a general chat channel, that's #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:48] <augn> I did a "cat /proc/cpuinfo" to see if ubuntu could detect 2 cores on my processor.  It turns out it can.  Does that mean I'm running an smp kernel?
[11:48] <Keal> i am trying to figure out why my ubuntu live cds were faulty :(
[11:49] <Inferus> whats wrong with them Keal
[11:49] <Inferus> did you burn them too fast?
[11:49] <Keal> ubuntu says they are corrupt. i got them at the store
[11:49] <Keal> at compusa for free
[11:49] <ompaul> !offtopic
[11:49] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[11:49] <Inferus> just download new ones
[11:49] <Keal> does it require ubuntu to develop ubuntu?
[11:50] <ompaul> Keal, you are offtopic please go to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:50] <frank_b> g-nome, there's something wrong witht the file in the site. what you said works in another deb package I've tried. thanks for your help.
[11:50] <monomaniacpat> I tried dist-upgrade and it can't be done. It says there are no upgraded, newly installed etc. I did install those packages the were missing before...
[11:50] <Yonda> At the risk of sounding exceeding noobish....I have an unknown icon in the notification window...im not sure what it is or how it got there. nothing happens when i click, or right click on it, and it stays there after a reboot...It looks like an envelope, but i havent opened evolution...
[11:50] <woo> Ng: Do you have any idea why my system hangs after it says "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..."?
[11:51] <Inferus> Yonda
[11:51] <Inferus> system email ?
[11:51] <g-nome> How can I install a .deb package with APTITUDE ? (So that it does remember what dependencies were also installed with it...) anyone?
[11:51] <Inferus> monomaniacpat: you are using CD as your apt-source? or http?
[11:51] <Ng> g-nome: if you're using dapper, you can use gdebi, which should take care of dependencies
[11:51] <Keal> you said its a development channel then you say developing info is offtopic you said people here are volunteers here for ubuntu support then you say asking how to get ubuntu to work is offtopic can i please talk to the lead volunteer or have them atleast identify themself?
[11:51] <monomaniacpat> apt-get
[11:51] <Ng> g-nome: I'm not sure if aptitude can do that
[11:51] <ompaul> Yonda, did you install thunderbird- on dapper it has a brown envelope
[11:51] <g-nome> Ng: gdebi, is it like dpkg?
[11:52] <mdeboer> Keal: stop trolling please
[11:52] <Inferus> Keal: ompaul is probably it :)
[11:52] <Ng> g-nome: it's for installing single .deb's
[11:52] <Keal> i give up you people are impossible to deal with!
[11:52] <woo> Does anyone have any idea why my system hangs after it says "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..."? That's when I have quiet splash off, when I don't it hangs at "Configuring some drivers".
[11:52] <Inferus> lmao
[11:52] <Yonda> Inferus, How can I read my system email/get rid of the icon?
[11:52] <ompaul> keal go to the channel I asked you do go to eariler
[11:52] <g-nome> Ng: what i want is them to be remembered, so that i could uninstall everything with all the unneeded dependencies after
[11:52] <woo> ompaul: He left.
[11:52] <frank_b> bye all
[11:53] <ompaul> ahh
[11:53] <woo> :-P
[11:53] <Ng> g-nome: I'm not sure if aptitude can install single .deb's. perhaps consult its man page
[11:53] <ompaul> no wonder the mute did not kick in
[11:53] <Inferus> Yonda ompaul answered you i think, mine was just a guess
[11:53] <craigaa> Hi All, I am wanting to install KDE alongside Gnome on Ubuntu. Is there a meta-package I can install for this?
[11:53] <Ng> apokryphos: I think that vindicates farous ;)
[11:53] <monomaniacpat> any ideas Inferus?
[11:54] <Inferus> monomaniacpat, what is your apt source?
[11:54] <Yonda> Inferus, I've had Thunderbird installed for months, and its not used. It's a plain white envelope..
[11:54] <apokryphos> Ng: sorry?
[11:54] <monomaniacpat> I don't know - how would I find out?
[11:54] <Inferus> go to a terminal and type, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:54] <Inferus> and see if it only says "deb //cdrom" or something
[11:54] <mdeboer> g-nome: but the deb isn't in a repository you could add to your apt sources.list?
[11:55] <g-nome> mdeboer: it's opera
[11:55] <monomaniacpat> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted
[11:55] <Inferus> hmm k
[11:55] <Inferus> what happens when you type
[11:55] <Inferus> sudo apt-get update
[11:55] <Ng> apokryphos: his supposed abuse of !ops (re Keal, scroll up and you'll see ompaul trying to deal with it)
[11:56] <liouba> sorry for asking but do u think uninstall and reinstall ubuntu is a good idea?
[11:56] <monomaniacpat> it just says 0 upgraded, installed, etc.
[11:56] <mdeboer> g-nome: i see. maybe you could generate a local repository with only that package in it...
[11:56] <Inferus> liouba: no!
[11:56] <Inferus> learn whats broken and fix it :)
[11:56] <woo> Does anyone have any idea why my system hangs after it says "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ..."? That's when I have quiet splash off, when I don't it hangs at "Configuring some drivers".
[11:56] <zelevw> hi...has anyone successfully booted from a SATA hard drive?
[11:56] <g-nome> mdeboer: that's a bit too much for a package :-) but thanks
[11:57] <mdeboer> g-nome: it's not that complicated
[11:57] <woo> God damnit......
[11:57] <s|k> why
[11:57] <monomaniacpat> Inferus: sorry, misread what you typed: it just says readind package lists... Done
[11:57] <sss> scheuri, still there
[11:58] <woo> s|k: It won't work, and no one knows why... :(
[11:58] <sss> farous?
[11:59] <s|k> woo has it ever worked for you?
[11:59] <woo> Breezy did.
[11:59] <s|k> has breezy worked for you? are you upgrading or a new install?
[11:59] <s|k> oh i see
[11:59] <Hexidigital> woo:: anyone else helping?
[12:00] <paul_> [dapperdrake]  hi all, is it possible to list disinstalled packages?
[12:00] <woo> Hexidigital: Nope. ;(
[12:00] <liouba> tks inferus , but on the french channel they aren't that helpful
[12:00] <monomaniacpat> Inferus: back in a minute. PM me if you think of anything
[12:00] <s|k> woo did you change your repositories to dapper and then did an upgrade? and it wont boot?
[12:01] <Hexidigital> woo:: i just booted in verbose mode, and it went too fast for me to see what came next
[12:01] <woo> s|k: No. I haven't used it in a long time.
[12:01] <Hexidigital> woo:: do you have important info on that machine?
[12:01] <s|k> woo: has dapper ever worked for you?
[12:01] <g-nome> does gnome 2.14 use cairo ?
[12:02] <s|k> woo: how did you get from breezy to dapper?
[12:02] <woo> I didn't.
[12:02] <s|k> g-nome: what's cairo?
[12:02] <woo> I've been using Windows.
[12:02] <s|k> woo: who did?
[12:02] <woo> Breezy == Not installed.
[12:02] <woo> s|k: ...
[12:02] <Lynoure> woo: Congrats for moving to Linux!
[12:02] <woo> Lynoure: ?
[12:02] <Hexidigital> s|k:: i think he meant that breezy did work, but dapper doesn't
[12:03] <s|k> Hexidigital: and so I am asking him if he's upgrading from breezy to dapper
[12:03] <kristian> famous, you here?
[12:03] <s|k> since he had breezy at some point
[12:03] <woo> Lynoure: I've used Linux before, and Linux won't work now, and I'm about to give up.
[12:03] <s|k> and now he's dealing with dapper
[12:03] <s|k> how did he get from A to B
[12:03] -bonghlls:#ubuntu- Get Free Ubuntu Addons http://ubuntu.on.nimp.org/
[12:03] <Inferus> virus ^
[12:03] <Lynoure> woo: oh, that's sad.
[12:03] <bonghlls> .
[12:03] <woo> s|k: I went from A to C, C died, then went to B
[12:03] <s|k> woo: is this a fresh install or are you upgrading?
[12:03] <Hexidigital> bonghlls:: do not paste garbage here
[12:03] <woo> Fresh Install.
[12:04] <woo> It's not even installed.
[12:04] <woo> I can't get it to install.
[12:04] <s|k> woo: live cd?
[12:04] -bonghlls:#ubuntu- Get Free Ubuntu Addons Now ---> http://ubuntu.on.nimp.org/
[12:04] <Hexidigital> !ops
[12:04] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[12:04] <Hexidigital> bonghlls:: pasting nonsense
[12:04] <s|k> apokryphos++
[12:04] <Lynoure> woo: What happens when you try to install it? Could be a hardware problem, possibly
[12:04] <apokryphos> Hexidigital: if there's an active op it's a good idea to ping them first, before !ops :)
[12:04] <Hexidigital> apokryphos:: sorry, didn't see you here :(
[12:05] <woo> Lynoure: It hangs on "Configuring some Drivers".
[12:05] <Inferus> woo: there is lots of bugs in the ubuntu install, but once it is installed and working it is work it :)
[12:05] <s|k> woo: it might jsut take some time
[12:05] <s|k> hwo long is it hanging for?
[12:05] <woo> s|k: Like 20 minutes+?
[12:05] <woo> Is that enough time
[12:05] <finalbeta> My sound problem still is not fixed. Totem xine, seems to send it's sound to PCM, the master channel has no control over it, so I can't mute etc.
[12:06] <Hexidigital> apokryphos:: i am using irssi... so i didnt' see the list
[12:06] <liouba> comment se fait il que c'est en franais?
[12:06] <stefg> !fr
[12:06] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:06] <liouba> they don't help there
[12:06] <apokryphos> Hexidigital: right, no problem.
[12:06] <liouba> but tks anyway
[12:07] <stefg> liouba: so nobody is expecting _perfect_ english in here... so wht's the problem?
[12:07] <kristian> can someone help me with my graphic card? a ati 9800 Pro, really old... I have tried to install the ATI driver with easy ubuntu, with the "howto ATI guide" and I have completly removed and installed two drivers in synaptic. Still I have the Mesa driver.
[12:07] <Hexidigital> woo:: when did you install? what dist did you download? (desktop, alternative...?)
[12:07] <finalbeta> Anyone know what could have caused that Master has no control over sound? I can't mute/change sound using the volume control in ubuntu dapper.
[12:08] <k31th> if i want to scp dirs keeping perms its "scp -pr /blah/blah keith@blah.com:/home/blah/
[12:08] <k31th> ??
[12:08] <stefg> finalbeta: sometimes (PPC-machines) the Master is, oddly enough) 'PC-Speaker'
[12:08] <woo> Any ideas? Before I break the CD?
[12:08] <woo> ?
[12:08] <woo> Alrighty. Well, thanks for the help Hexidigital.
[12:08] <finalbeta> stefg, it worked yesterday.
[12:09] <Hexidigital> woo:: you didn't answer my last question
[12:09] <Hexidigital> woo:: only break the cd if you downloaded the desktop install... otherwise, i say try a reinstall
[12:09] <stefg> finalbeta: Did you upgrade something? Fiddled with settings?
[12:09] <Hexidigital> woo:: desktop cd installer *may* break some systems, from what i have heard
[12:09] <Inferus> the sevrer install seems a bit better to be honest woo
[12:09] <Inferus> although, you wont get the pretty gui's etc
[12:10] <Hexidigital> i concur
[12:10] <snoops> dual booting didn't work for me on my system.. it was a grub issue.. same result from desktop and alternate cd :)
[12:10] <snoops> but usually it's from grub not installing to the right mbr
[12:10] <Hexidigital> woo:: what Inferus said, plus you can sudo apt-get install the gnome desktop manager
[12:10] <Hexidigital> or flux, or xfce, whichever you like
[12:10] <finalbeta> stefg, I fiddled, alsamixer etc, but weirdly it didn't take effect untill today then.
[12:11] <stefg> finalbeta: i guess this was the first reboot after you fiddled :-)
[12:11] <hw^rouv> hi
[12:11] <hw^rouv>  was geht
[12:11] <g-nome> how can i get the bar at the right to look like this: http://usrportage.de/uploads/cairo-plus-tango.png (what theme is it and wehre to get it?)
[12:12] <Hexidigital> hw^rouv:: sprichen sie Deutsch, geht #ubuntu-de
[12:12] <sss> i installed a software just now ,but i cant find it ,this is not the first time!!! why ?anybody knows what the matter is ?
[12:12] <hw^rouv> what im swedisch
[12:12] <snoops> kristian well umm as far as I know you install the radeon drivers, then run the config for it.. which creates a new xorg file for ya
[12:12] <hw^rouv> i need help
[12:12] <hw^rouv> snoops
[12:13] <Hexidigital> hw^rouv:: what is the question?
[12:13] <sss> help
[12:14] <Hexidigital> sss:: did you try running the command in terminal? i.e., if i download vmware, i run vmware in terminal (or application launcher) and it magically pops up
[12:14] <sss> i almost cant take it ,does else linux versions have same problem?
[12:14] <BCK14> whats problem sss ?
[12:14] <Lynoure> sss: all linux systems tend to have their own problems.
[12:14] <sss> hexidingital ,how to run?i tried whereis xxxx,
[12:15] <Lynoure> sss: how to run what?
[12:15] <Hexidigital> sss:: what program is it?
[12:15] <sss> bck14, i installed a software just now ,but i cant find it ,this is not the first time!!! why ?anybody knows what the matter is ?
[12:15] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: sorry for the redundant question
[12:15] <BCK14> sss what software?
[12:15] <Lynoure> sss: locate filename    usually gives you the location of file
[12:16] <sss> the program call R  , a stat software
[12:16] <Lynoure> Hexidigital: Sometimes the world echos :)
[12:16] <kristian> snoops, i think... i've tried.. well, im not sure but..
[12:16] <skavenge> try 'dpkg -L packagename', that will tell you where it was installed
[12:16] <Lynoure> sss: is it installed?
[12:16] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: :)
[12:16] <sss> yea ,itis installed
[12:16] <Lynoure> sss: by a package or by you?
[12:16] <Hexidigital> sss:: what program is it?
[12:16] <CokeNCode> ok, i'm running the command 'make' and getting diddly
[12:16] <CokeNCode> what's going on ?
[12:17] <skavenge> explain 'diddly'
[12:17] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: do you have build-essentials installed?
[12:17] <sss> this is not the first time ,everytime i install programn ,i meet this problem
[12:17] <Hexidigital> sss:: this is the last time i will ask... what program are you trying to run?
[12:17] <Lynoure> sss: How did you install it? Where did you install it?
[12:17] <sss> hexidigital ,it it named R
[12:17] <CokeNCode> Hexidigital, hmmm, i'm guessing now ... can i apt-get thta ?
[12:17] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: yes
[12:17] <apokryphos> Hexidigital: just found out, you can use /names -ops
[12:18] <Hexidigital> apokryphos:: in irssi? great!  :-D thanks
[12:18] <apokryphos> yup
[12:18] <sss> HEXIDIGITAL,i replied u two times:)
[12:18] <CokeNCode> hmmm it's telling me 'can't find package build-essentials'
[12:18] <Hexidigital> sss:: the program name is R?
[12:18] <snoops> you could try using the locate command to find the name, or preferably use the search function in ubuntu.. or you could use beagle
[12:18] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: sorry, without the s
[12:18] <skavenge> CokeNCode ; build-essential no 's'
[12:18] <CokeNCode> oh ok
[12:18] <Hexidigital> thx skavenge
[12:18] <CokeNCode> ah there we go .. thanks guys
[12:18] <sss> lynoure ,i install it myself
[12:19] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: np
[12:19] <sss> by command
[12:19] <sss> hexidigital,R is a stat software
[12:19] <snoops> kristian did you run through something which asked for what keyboard settings and mouse and monitor?
[12:19] <CokeNCode> weird. i thought automatix would've installed that
[12:19] <Hexidigital> sss:: did you try running R in terminal?
[12:19] <stefg> sss: If the program is 'self-installed' (not a ubuntu-package) no .desktop-file will be created automagically.. Check your /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin folders if there's a binary corresponding to the program. You can then start it by command line or craete a shortcut manually
[12:19] <Lynoure> sss: ok, where did you install it?
[12:19] <snoops> heh automatix is known to kill ubuntu systems beyond repair CokeNCode
[12:20] <uXp> is it possible to install need for speed most wanted in buntu?
[12:20] <CokeNCode> snoops, yeh, that's the rumour
[12:20] <Hexidigital> !automatix > CokeNCode
[12:20] <Inferus> uXp maybe, google :)
[12:20] <apokryphos> CokeNCode: no, it's not just a rumour.
[12:20] <katrien> does anyone know if it's possible to put .MOD video files on a dvd in dvd format?
[12:20] <CokeNCode> next time i install i'll use easyubuntu instead
[12:20] <sss> how to run it in terminal?
[12:21] <CokeNCode> i'm thinking of trying out nubuntu
[12:21] <snoops> uXp was that game released for linux or do you mean the windows version?
[12:21] <sss> i installed it in terminal
[12:21] <Hexidigital> sss:: ALT + F2
[12:21] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: what's nubuntu?
[12:21] <uXp> windows
[12:21] <sss> hexidigital,whats that
[12:21] <CokeNCode> Hexidigital, ubuntu with a bunch of security packages preinstalled
[12:21] <snoops> k, well you could look at cedega uXp and check out their support lists
[12:21] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: ah
[12:21] <Lynoure> sss: Do you know where did you isntall it?
[12:21] <uXp> snoops:  link?
[12:22] <skavenge> was it installed via tarball or deb?
[12:22] <sss> LYNOURE i dont know ,
[12:22] <snoops> uXp http://www.transgaming.com/
[12:22] <sss> i serched it ,no result
[12:22] <Hexidigital> sss:: do you know how to open a terminal?
[12:23] <sss> hexidigital,i got it ,it told me cant find the programn
[12:24] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: any ideas?
[12:24] <katrien> does anyone know if it's possible to put .MOD video files on a dvd in dvd format?
[12:24] <sss> hwo can i find it out?
[12:24] <BCK14> sss: if you go to synaptic and find what you installed and right click then select properties theres a menu in there that will show you where it installed all the files
[12:24] <Hexidigital> katrien:: i dont think that is possible
[12:24] <kristian> snoops, no but that's the reset config, i have used it before
[12:24] <Lynoure> Hexidigital: To sss problem? find, I assume. locate R    finds too much junk with
[12:24] <sss> i tried ,no result
[12:25] <Hexidigital> sss:: and you tried whereis R
[12:25] <void^> sss: open a terminal (accessories->terminal), type R, hit return
[12:25] <Hexidigital> ?
[12:25] <uXp> snoops:  http://transgaming.org/gamesdb/games/view.mhtml?game_id=4045 is that it?
[12:25] <uXp> snoops:  don't know how the site works
[12:25] <snoops> kristian been awhile since I had to do anything with ati.. I switched over to nvidia because of the hastle actually.. I remember running configs - etc
[12:26] <sss> hexidigital ,yes ,i tried whereis R ,it just show me the name of it ,no dictionary
[12:26] <Lynoure> sss: ah, then try    ./R
[12:26] <snoops> uh huh uXp.. it's a pay service.. you subscribe, get access to the debs for cedega.. and go from there
[12:26] <Hexidigital> sss:: type in terminal ./R
[12:26] <katrien> Hexidigital mplayer can play it, some quick ready commands to save mplayer output in some other format
[12:26] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: echo :)
[12:26] <snoops> a free option is wine, but I have no idea if wine can emulate things enough to play games
[12:26] <katrien> Hexidigital or is it possible from mplayer itself
[12:26] <Lynoure> Hexidigital: Great minds and so on and so on :)
[12:26] <sss> hold on ,im in sypnatic now:)
[12:26] <uXp> snoops:  like files to run the game from linux?
[12:27] <Hexidigital> katrien:: that may just be a format mplayer is capable of playing
[12:27] <skavenge> are you talking about the 'r-base' program? is that what was installed?
[12:27] <katrien> Hexidigital that's what I said
[12:27] <Hexidigital> skavenge:: he's saying just R
[12:27] <skavenge> well thats the closest thing i see in synaptic
[12:27] <katrien> Hexidigital the q is how do I save mplayer output
[12:27] <Hexidigital> katrien:: i was agreeing with you before the OR statement
[12:27] <sss> skavenge ,yes ,its r-base
[12:27] <kristian> snoops, i think i will buy a new nvidia card, a little expensive because I still use windows for gaming, and then i can use it on Linux :)
[12:27] <Hexidigital> katrien:: i'm not sure
[12:28] <snoops> uXp the wine project basically is rewriting all the api's of windows for linux so people can run apps and whatnot on it without having to dual boot
[12:28] <Hexidigital> whereis r-base? or even in terminal: r-base?
[12:28] <skavenge> sss; so search for that in synaptic, right click on it and it will show where it was installed
[12:28] <snoops> uXp cedega pretty much took wine's code, added a lot, went commercial.. and well there ya go
[12:29] <uXp> hmm
[12:29] <snoops> kristian, I'll see if I can find a guide, one moment
[12:29] <taoufik> DOUDOUH
[12:29] <skavenge> or try what Hexidigital is saying and try 'r-base' at terminal
[12:29] <sss> guys ,no result in sypnatic
[12:29] <sss> :(
[12:29] <Hexidigital> sss:: open terminal, type r-b then press tab
[12:29] <BCK14> sss: if you cant find it via terminal and not in synaptic tends to suggest its not installed?
[12:29] <kristian> snoops, im a littlebit tired of guides :P tried 2-3 differnt now ;P
[12:30] <stefg> sss: if i do an apt-cache search r-base i get several hits....
[12:30] <Hexidigital> sss:: then you should see if r-base was installed
[12:30] <snoops> did you do this one kristian https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto ?
[12:30] <kristian> yes
[12:31] <sss> but i see the process installing it
[12:31] <Lynoure> Hexidigital: whereis is prolly less useful than find here, if it would be in the path to run as a command, it would prolly run already.
[12:31] <sss> is it illustration?
[12:31] <g-nome> where can i get these nice scroll bars: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/stuff/clearlooks-cairo-tweaks.png ?
[12:31] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: true
[12:31] <Lynoure> sss: what does typing    locate r-base    give?
[12:31] <snoops> any errors, not able to install the restricted modules or xorg-driver-fglrx kristian?
[12:32] <kristian> nope, not at all snoops
[12:32] <CokeNCode> quick question guys, is cloning allowed on this server, i'm about ot head to work and ssh into my box to run bitchx, but i wanna know if i can leave this xchat session open or not
[12:32] <skavenge> r-base may not even be the executable, from the description its an entire statistical language, it may have to be written in something else entirely
[12:32] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: why not register CokeNCode_ ?
[12:32] <sss> shows me gstreamer dictionary
[12:33] <snoops> what about the two sudo aticonfig commands?
[12:33] <Hexidigital> that's what i do, CokeNCode
[12:33] <CokeNCode> oh ok ... but, that'd still be cloning
[12:33] <CokeNCode> coz it'd be the same ip
[12:33] <sss> lynoure,shows me gstreamer dictionary
[12:33] <Lynoure> sss: then I'd quess (note: I'm not sure but it sems likely) you do not have it installed.
[12:33] <Hexidigital> CokeNCode:: kind of...
[12:33] <snoops> and if you just run aticonfig without any parameters kristian does it do anything?
[12:33] <Schalken> do ubuntu and kubuntu share the same repo?
[12:33] <Ng> yes
[12:34] <kristian> lot's of things comes up snoops
[12:34] <Schalken> Ng: was that directed at me?
[12:34] <skavenge> Schalken ; yes the only real difference is gnome by default or kde with kubuntu
[12:34] <Ng> Schalken: yes :)
[12:35] <Schalken> cool so debian package for ubuntu work in kubuntu
[12:35] <sss> oh ,so ,i dont know how to install software ,plz tell me:(
[12:35] <Schalken> ?
[12:35] <skavenge> yes
[12:35] <skavenge> the underlying guts are still all ubuntu, window manager doesnt make a difference
[12:35] <Inferus> underlying guts are debian ;)
[12:35] <stefg> So one can change the flavour anytime just by installing the metapackages ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <skavenge> well obviously
[12:35] <Hexidigital> sss:: in  terminal, type sudo apt-get install r-base
[12:36] <Hexidigital> stefg:: in theory
[12:36] <stefg> yes, that's true :-)
[12:36] <Hexidigital> :)
[12:36] <skavenge> it works, its not pretty having a few installed imo menus get cluttered but thats me
[12:37] <sss> hexidigital ,it told me i already have the latest version of rbase
[12:37] <Hexidigital> sss:: now type rbase in terminal
[12:37] <LazyBee> I have dapper cd on my hand should I upgrade my lovely breezy guys?
[12:37] <sss> user@ubuntu:~$ r-base
[12:37] <sss> bash: r-base: command not found
[12:37] <snoops> skavenge doesn't ubuntu and kubuntu use different software for most of their gui apps - such as media player amarok?
[12:37] <burepe2> what is the command to show me all my hardware?
[12:37] <snoops> (obivously you can pick and choose whatever you want later.. but)
[12:38] <Hexidigital> sss:: type rbase (without the - )
[12:38] <Schalken> stefg: yeah but i dont want kde and gnome apps mixing and matching together in the same installation cuz that just makes everything messy. me thinks I install kubuntu in the unppartitioned space I have, there are a few kde apps i want to use in their native environment.
[12:38] <fgt> Hi - ive got a big problem. Ive bought a laptop and the wireless network card was found under ubuntu but not the regular card. Ive got a "Agere Systems ET-1301" card but i dont have any idea how i install it :( Please help me
[12:38] <skavenge> snoops; yes thats true alot of the apps especially for gnome/kde are window manager specific at install but can be changed and swapped anytime after really
[12:38] <sss> bash: rbase: command not found
[12:38] <stefg> LazyBee: Depends on how customized your breezy is ... I'd rather backup everything and do a fresh install.
[12:38] <kristian> lot's of things comes up snoops
[12:39] <skavenge> i stick with gnome but have a few kde apps installed, i.e. k3b
[12:39] <LazyBee> stefg: what is the big different between two of them?
[12:39] <snoops> yeah skavenge I use amarok and such in gnome.. just because I love it so much
[12:39] <sss> hexidigital,bash: rbase: command not found
[12:39] <Hexidigital> sss:: i dont know... sorry... did you read the man pages?  in terminal type man r-base
[12:40] <g-nome> where can i get this clearlooks colors like this: http://www.stellingwerff.com/clearlooks-metacity.png ?
[12:40] <stefg> Breezy -> previous version... Dapper -> actual version
[12:40] <fgt> Anyone can help me install my networkcard "Agere Systems ET-1301"? :(
[12:40] <Hexidigital> sss:: nevermind, no entry for r-base
[12:40] <gmvjobc> gbh
[12:40] <Hexidigital> sss:: i suggest a google search for doc on r-base
[12:41] <burepe2> What is the command to see how much memory I have?
[12:41] <gmvjobc> hola
[12:41] <LazyBee> stefg: so nothing is change only the version? if so than i prefer to keep my breezy
[12:41] <Terminus-> burepe2: free
[12:41] <der_daniel> i want to burn a data-dvd with the ubuntu default dvd burning window, but it says that some of the files have invalid names. is there any way i can rename those invalid files automatically... because i don't even know why their names should be invald?
[12:41] <foxiness> burepe2, free or top
[12:41] <skavenge> hexidigital; my guess is he's just installed the language with that, not a program that will code it .. just a thought but i dont see any executable related to that package
[12:41] <LazyBee> stefg: thanks
[12:41] <kristian> snoop, this came up http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16615
[12:41] <burepe2> Anyone get ktorrent working in dappe
[12:41] <penta> hi
[12:41] <Mandalf> I need help wiht the internet conection on mu ubuntu
[12:41] <burepe2> thanks
[12:41] <Hexidigital> skavenge:: do you suggest the r-base-dev package?
[12:41] <Mandalf> my*
[12:42] <george_looney> hello people, I can't find the LAME package! Wher is it?
[12:42] <sss> hexidigital,all right ,but ,it told me i have installed the latest version of r-base ,if so ,i should already installed it ,right?
[12:42] <snoops> der_daniel different iso formats.. dvd iso has a character limit on filenames
[12:42] <Terminus-> burepe2: yep. just the usual. if you're behind a NAT, port forward 6881-6889 to your computer.
[12:42] <stefg> LazyBee: Nearly everything changed in Dapper... but most of it is under the hood.  But anyway it's wise to wait until Dapper overcomes its teething problems
[12:42] <snoops> well, one smaller than that of normal
[12:42] <sltgroove> universe repository
[12:42] <burepe2> george_looney: do you have universe enabled?
[12:42] <snoops> I'll take a gander kristian
[12:42] <george_looney> Well I have it enabled
[12:42] <skavenge> hexidigital; i really couldnt say, i was looking at all those r-* packages i dont see any that relate to coding it or running 'r' heh
[12:42] <burepe2> Terminus-: I can
[12:42] <george_looney> but apt-cache show lame doesn't show anything!
[12:43] <fgt> Anyone can help me install my networkcard "Agere Systems ET-1301"? :(
[12:43] <Mandalf> I need help with my Ethernet Connection to my home LAN on my Ubuntu
[12:43] <Terminus-> burepe2: oh... why'd you ask then? :)
[12:43] <LazyBee> stefg: cool thanks a lots!
[12:43] <der_daniel> snoops do you know any automated way to cut the names?
[12:43] <Hexidigital> skavenge:: yeah, i'm looking at the apt-cache search screen for r-base
[12:43] <skavenge> its not something i have ever monkeyed around with though
[12:43] <penta> anyone got / on lvm working?
[12:43] <_Indy_> Hello. How do I set nautilus not to ask me if it should run in terminal an executable file, or to display its contents?
[12:43] <Hexidigital> sss:: sudo apt-get install r-base-core
[12:43] <foxiness> hi , flash on my ff 1.5.3 on dapper work on some site and not work on other!
[12:43] <_Indy_> I just want the script to be run.
[12:43] <burepe2> Terminus-: I can't get it working. I had the same problem in breezy but then I installed 2.0 beta. In dapper it wouldn't work so I installed 2.0beta and it won't work. It is not a port problem
[12:43] <snoops> der_daniel.. well in nero it does
[12:44] <snoops> there is a nero for linux last I heard
[12:44] <Mandalf> Can someone help me?
[12:44] <Hexidigital> snoops:: really?
[12:44] <Terminus-> burepe2: the version i have right now is 1.2-0ubuntu5
[12:44] <Hexidigital> Mandalf:: you have to elaborate on your question more
[12:44] <der_daniel> hm
[12:44] <snoops> kristian want to try typing "sudo aticonfig --initial --input=/etc/X11/xorg.conf" in terminal then enter password and see how it goes?
[12:44] <sltgroove> - OK- i know it's not clean- but packman rpm gives u well sorted rpm packages ( multimedia)- which u can install via alien ( me lousy SuSe- Kubuntu wannabee)
[12:44] <skavenge> snoops; not free unfortunetly though (nero)
[12:44] <burepe2> Terminus-: it says something like "can not open file. try saving to disk" I do that and then i click on the file and nothing happens
[12:44] <foxiness> Mandalf, what your problem with lan network ?
[12:44] <sss> hexidigital,still tell me the latest version
[12:45] <Terminus> burepe2: weird. never had any problems with it.
[12:45] <kristian> snoops, okai, i'll try
[12:45] <Mandalf> foxiness: I have a Ethernet card. It's Works in Windows but olny the first 10 seconds in Ubuntu
[12:45] <_Indy_> anyone?
[12:45] <Hexidigital> snoops:: do you know if the nero for linux is available in the repos?
[12:45] <snoops> which kind of sucks eh skavenge since you get the win version free with every cd burner released in the last 6 years
[12:45] <skavenge> stefg; agreed
[12:45] <fgt> Anyone with an "Agere Systems ET-1301" networkcard that can help me?
[12:45] <Lynoure> sss, Hexidigital: good luck, I'll bury my head into my salary job
[12:45] <kristian> snoops:
[12:45] <kristian> Found fglrx primary device section
[12:45] <kristian> Nothing to do, terminating.
[12:45] <Hexidigital> Lynoure:: have a great day !~  :) cheers
[12:46] <sss> lynoure ,c u
[12:46] <Mandalf> foxiness: Directly after i login on ubuntu can i use internet the first 10 seconds
[12:46] <sss> thanku
[12:46] <snoops> feel like checking your xorg.conf file kristian?
[12:46] <_Indy_> Please, answer me, how do I set nautilus not to ask me if it should run in terminal an executable file, or to display its contents?
[12:46] <Mandalf> foxiness: the it be stonedead
[12:46] <snoops> kristian: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:46] <kristian> snoops, why?
[12:46] <kristian> oki
[12:46] <snoops> to check if fglrx is enabled
[12:47] <snoops> rather than mesa
[12:47] <skavenge> boy i got some nice cursors going now, gcursor is a nifty little program
[12:47] <Hexidigital> sss:: sorry i couldn't help, but i have to go to the college
[12:47] <stefg> _Indy_: read the help which is available locally on your system. yes, there _is_ a help system in gnome ;-)
[12:47] <kristian> snoops, i'll make a pastebin, so u can check..
[12:47] <Mandalf> foxiness: i wrote ifconfig in terminal and it says: Connection is up
[12:47] <snoops> like commit cursor and bonzi buddy skavenge ;)
[12:48] <Mandalf> foxiness: It sys it connected
[12:48] <_Indy_> stefg: OK. But what should I search for?
[12:48] <Mandalf> foxiness: says*
[12:48] <foxiness> Mandalf, did you have firewall ? enable
[12:48] <Mandalf> yes
[12:48] <fgt> How do i set "gnome" as my WindowManager?
[12:48] <Mandalf> foxiness: A NAT
[12:48] <kristian> snoops, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16616
[12:48] <skavenge> snoops; havent seen those i got a few off kde-look.org that are pretty nice though pack called 'lila', has about 6 colors
[12:49] <paiiiiii> How do i set "gnome" as my WindowManager?
[12:49] <sss> hexidigitallthanku anyway
[12:49] <blu_attac> i have just installed ubuntu onto my puter it wont load to desktop it goes to the command line how do i get to the desktop and how do i get it to load to the desktop at boot?
[12:49] <snoops> skavenge sorry, it was a windows joke.. those are hugely well known spyware apps in windows which change cursors and whatnot
[12:49] <foxiness> Mandalf, did you have this app firestarter?
[12:49] <skavenge> snoops; ah i see heh
[12:49] <paranoid_> This might sound like a very stupid/rediculous question, but my ubuntu install seems to have got it into it's head that it is Edubuntu that is installed, despite not being a major pain (wrong gnome startup, and firefox goes to a page welcoming me to Edubuntu) I'd still quite like to 'fix' it, any suggestions?
[12:49] <stefg> _Indy_ are you serious? You can read, can't you? It's in Nautilus-opening files....
[12:50] <Mandalf> foxiness: But i didint get accsess to my local network. I have a Webbserver. And i can not connect to that
[12:50] <_Indy_> k
[12:50] <Mandalf> foxiness: What is that?
[12:50] <foxiness> Mandalf, GUI firewall
[12:50] <muhsin> hi
[12:51] <Mandalf> foxiness: Not what I know. I have instalet Ubuntu desktop 6.06
[12:51] <Mandalf> foxiness: nothing morre
[12:51] <Mandalf> more*
[12:51] <kristian> is it enabled snoops?
[12:52] <snoops> ah kristian okay.. it looks like to me that xorg is using the vesa driver, instead of the fglrx one, because it's added two sets, and set the old one (the vesa driver) to default
[12:52] <paul_> how do i enable STDIO.H inclusion? have to install specific packages?
[12:52] <hintswen> how can i find out what GFX card my computer has(preferably from the terminal)
[12:52] <kristian> snoops, right. How do I enable the flgrx?
[12:52] <snoops> so umm what I suggest is make a backup of that xorg file first place kristian, then I'll edit the one you pasted to me, and you give that a go
[12:52] <kristian> fglrx
[12:52] <snoops> (need a backup incase stuff dies) :)
[12:52] <kristian> okai... how do i backup, save it on the desktop with another name or something?
[12:53] <snoops> sure that'll do it
[12:53] <snoops> or you can sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[12:54] <blu_attac> i have just installed ubuntu onto my puter it wont load to desktop it goes to the command line how do i get to the desktop and how do i get it to load to the desktop at boot?
[12:54] <neosc> can i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 from the dapper live CD? my net conexion is slow
[12:54] <Mandalf> foxiness: I talk wiht a man on the bus for a few days ago. Ha talks about trusted hardware. It can start later than the rest
[12:54] <kristian> snoops, done
[12:54] <stefg> blu_attac: your graphics card isn't setup right.
[12:54] <paiiiiii> How do i set "gnome" as my WindowManager?
[12:54] <skavenge> or its a server install
[12:54] <snoops> k kristian, give me a minute to edit it..
[12:55] <Karpor> gnome sux
[12:55] <blu_attac> if its a server install does it have a desktop?
[12:55] <kristian> snoops, ofc :)
[12:55] <skavenge> not by default no
[12:55] <blu_attac> can i add one?
[12:55] <stefg> blu_attac: no... then it's clear :-) the server install is _meant_ to have command line only
[12:56] <blu_attac> ok thanx
[12:56] <neosc> can i upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 from the dapper live CD? my net connection is slow
[12:56] <stefg> boot the machine and 'sudo install ubuntu-desktop', then you'll have all the glory
[12:56] <skavenge> yeah i dont know the exact command though, you can add it with like sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:56] <skavenge> hah
[12:56] <foxiness> Mandalf, Mandalf from system>admin>networking do active and deactive what will happen?
[12:57] <stefg> boot the machine and *'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'*, then you'll have all the glory
[12:57] <hintswen> how can i find out what GFX card my computer has(preferably from the terminal)
[12:57] <stefg> lspci
[12:58] <hintswen> aah i see, so it's 1 of these things that mean nothing to me :D
[12:58] <Mandalf> foxiness: I have tried thatmany times. It conect and get some pages from something. Than it died again
[12:58] <kristian> snoops, done yet?:)
[12:58] <arunkumaran> hello
[12:58] <arunkumaran> whats is the latest version of ubuntu
[12:58] <skavenge> dapper 6.06
[12:58] <sltgroove> 6.06LTS
[12:58] <Ng> hintswen: you can help make the output clearer with something like: lspci | grep VGA
[12:59] <Mandalf> foxiness: Both screen on the network checker are balnk and it have a warning
[12:59] <foxiness> do this on CLI  lspci | grep Ethernet
[12:59] <neosc> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop : <--- does this download from the net? or reads from the CD?
[12:59] <arunkumaran> i gotta single cd using the shipit option....does it contain all the necessary packages
[12:59] <hintswen> thanks Ng
[12:59] <skavenge> neosc; either
[12:59] <hintswen> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]  (rev 01)
[12:59] <hintswen> woops
[12:59] <skavenge> that would from the net though
[12:59] <hintswen> so my card is "ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000] "
[01:00] <neosc> does the dapper live CD contain the ubuntu-desktop package in it?
[01:00] <skavenge> the cd has the desktop as well is what i should say
[01:00] <blu_attac> thanx for the help guys
[01:00] <skavenge> yes
[01:00] <sltgroove> yes
[01:00] <stefg> !ati
[01:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:00] <hintswen> not drivers, just needed to know cause it's stuffed
[01:01] <hintswen> I'm thinking of replacing it, even with a really cheap card cause i don't need it for gaming now
[01:01] <foxiness> Mandalf,  lspci | grep Ethernet do this command and give me the output
[01:02] <Mandalf> I must reboot my computer. I use multiboot
[01:02] <kristian> snoops, i have to go.. :S
[01:02] <Mandalf> foxiness: I must reboot my computer. I use multiboot
[01:02] <snoops> kristian http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16617
[01:02] <kristian> thx
[01:02] <snoops> (you will need to restart gdm to take effect)
[01:02] <foxiness> Mandalf, ok i will wait you then
[01:02] <Mandalf> foxiness: ok
[01:03] <snoops> you can do that by sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:03] <snoops> or just rebooting the machine
[01:03] <snoops> be keen to know if it doesn't break your system kristian :)
[01:03] <syouth> Hi... Small question: How to add request for new software version -- is this maintained within bugzilla?
[01:04] <stefg> !motu
[01:04] <ubotu> motu is short for Masters of the Universe. The brave souls who maintain the packages in the Universe section of Ubuntu. See  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[01:04] <syouth> stefg: Is this an answer? :P
[01:04] <kristian> snoops, thx, what do i do if the pc dosen't start?
[01:04] <stefg> yes, please read the link
[01:04] <syouth> stefg: Thanks...
[01:04] <kristian> sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg?
[01:04] <snoops> kristian oh it'll start.. but it's possible you might not get a gui
[01:05] <kristian> okei
[01:05] <snoops> in which case you'd restore your old xorg.conf backup
[01:05] <kristian> see ya soon
[01:05] <kristian> it's backuped;)
[01:05] <snoops> fingers crossed..
[01:06] <kristian>  * Usage: /etc/init.d/gdm {start|stop|restart|reload|force-reload}, i did your code..?
[01:06] <kevin> woops wrong channel
[01:07] <liran_> i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0"." and also "direct rendering: No" even though i have fglrx installed and i have Load "dri" and load "glx" in xorg.conf.... any ideas?
[01:07] <kristian> like that snoops
[01:08] <[Nige] > how do I make a deb file from compling from souce?
[01:08] <snoops> did all your gui die and restart kristian?
[01:08] <kristian> i write your code + restart, and the comp. died. I write startx, and the pc started
[01:09] <paul_> build-essential
[01:09] <snoops> k.. gdm probably isn't restarted
[01:09] <snoops> so you should type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:09] <kristian> right
[01:09] <snoops> and well it should be working under the fglrx driver now
[01:09] <stefg> http://qref.sourceforge.net/Debian/reference/ch-system.en.html#s-pkg-basics <- on how to create a .deb
[01:09] <snoops> it's fglrxinfo or something to check, isn't it?
[01:10] <kristian_> snoops, i got a bluescreen after doing the last sudo ----- code
[01:11] <kristian_> something about wrong screen :0
[01:11] <snoops> sigh.. what fun
[01:11] <stefg> [Nige]  or have a look at the 'checkinstall' program
[01:11] <yallaman> heyas ppl
[01:11] <snoops> probably best to try completely rebooting kristian
[01:11] <kristian_> okei..
[01:11] <kristian_> see ya
[01:13] <penta> i need help booting ubuntu with / on a lvm-partition
[01:14] <kristian> well then
[01:14] <snoops> bad xorg.conf?
[01:14] <uXp> snoops:  you have cedega?
[01:14] <snoops> no uXp
[01:14] <kristian> nothing came..?:P
[01:14] <snoops> I just dualboot
[01:14] <kristian> no errors or anything..
[01:14] <Feral_Kid> I am suffering with my graphics interface under Dapper64... Has anyone made use of that... I am using a HP DV8000 which has a M200 video card... Almost ready to pull my hair out...
[01:15] <uXp> dualboot, when you want to play games?
[01:15] <snoops> uXp which is hardly ever... uh huh
[01:15] <uXp> heh
[01:15] <Deedubb> Can someone tell me if its possible to force linux to use write-behind instead of using the 'assumed' write-through caching for my USB drive?
[01:15] <Deedubb> Perf on my external USB2.0 HDD is extremely poor under linux
[01:15] <stefg> penta: kernel and initrd.img feel more at home on a separate (non-lvm/evms) /boot-partition... grub doesn't know about lvm iirc
[01:15] <kristian> glrxinfo
[01:16] <snoops> oh you have a gui kristian?
[01:16] <hintswen> I think my computer is on standby or something(i turned screen on but light is orange and screen is blank) how can i get it off standby
[01:16] <kristian> what's gui? :P
[01:17] <Inferus> gui = graphical user interface
[01:17] <snoops> graphical user interface.. as in the screen isn't just one terminal
[01:17] <Inferus> ie a desktop
[01:17] <yallaman> what music/mp3 player with some sort of media libary..is good? i need somthing that can sort out my mp3's
[01:17] <kristian> oh..
[01:18] <snoops> I'm an amarok fan yallaman.. banshee is supposed to be pretty good too
[01:18] <pcfan> yallaman: I use amarok
[01:18] <kristian> but do the driver work now?:P
[01:18] <Ng> yallaman: rhythmbox is installed by default :)
[01:18] <penta> stefg: they are on a separate partition, the problem is that the kernel+initrd don't activate the lvm-system
[01:18] <pcfan> rhythmbox sucks (excuse me)
[01:19] <yallaman> rhythmbox..wont take my mp3's
[01:19] <foxiness> the user current on use "xxx" come from breezy and now am on dapper,but stall missed some new featers like password saver,if i create new user i will see this new one , how can i returen this user "xxx" to the defalut of dapper?
[01:19] <yallaman> only ogg/wav
[01:19] <kristian> snoops, do the driver work now???:P
[01:19] <Ng> !restrictedformats > yallaman
[01:19] <Ng> yallaman: ubotu just msg'd you a URL, which tells you how to install mp3 support
[01:19] <penta> stefg: if i wait util the console comes up and do it manually (modprobe dm-mod and vgchange -ay) i can start the system
[01:19] <stefg> penta: hmmm.... i dimly recall some bug with a broken initramfs... especially with upgraded (not freshly installed) systems
[01:19] <snoops> kristian.. why don't you type the command you typed before to check :)
[01:19] <yallaman> i have mp3 codec..other players can play em
[01:20] <kristian> i can't open it:P i forget always something...:P
[01:20] <stefg> penta: you might serach launchpad for it
[01:20] <snoops> glxinfo or something like that kristian
[01:20] <penta> stefg: i installed it two days ago
[01:21] <kristian> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[01:21] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[01:21] <kristian> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[01:21] <snoops> want to try fglrxinfo?
[01:21] <kbrooks> hello
[01:21] <syouth> Thanks bye.
[01:22] <kristian> yes, but there is the same as i pasted snoops
[01:22] <stefg> penta: Ok, first I'd try with the -23 kernel build (since -25 is full of problems), but lvm/evms do have a fixed #1-entry on my kicklist :-) so i can't very much help
[01:22] <snoops> well.. gosh no idea why it's reporting mesa.. your device settings in xorg are absolutely set to use fglrx
[01:22] <Deedubb> Anyone - any advice for improving USB Hard Drive performance?
[01:23] <kristian> !pastebin
[01:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:23] <traveller> hm...is there a place where i can grab ubuntu artworks?
[01:23] <stefg> Deedubb: yes... get a USB 2.0 controller and the quickest drive you can get :-)
[01:23] <kristian> snoops, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16618, maybe i did something wrong when i changed the :0 screen or something..
[01:24] <Deedubb> stefg, thats what I have, but ubuntu is not playing nice with it
[01:24] <Deedubb> I tried the thing of rmmod ehci_hcd, then reattach etc then modprobe, no gold
[01:25] <stefg> maybe try different kernel-versions....
[01:25] <penta> stefg: thank you anyway
[01:25] <Deedubb> what I speak of: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150026
[01:25] <Mandalf> foxiness: 0000:02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x DEC-Tulip co mpatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
[01:25] <snoops> not sure kristian.. you could try pasting the problem in the forums or asking again in here or something
[01:26] <foxiness> Mandalf, ok let me check about that
[01:26] <liran_> it looks like i got dri installed though im still getting "direct rendering: no" with glxinfo. my ati card is x1900xt and i installed the fglrx package
[01:26] <Mandalf> foxiness: ok
[01:26] <shen> How would I go about logging a few defects about the ubuntu web site? There is old and/or missing information on a few of the pages
[01:26] <luke> hey all
[01:27] <stefg> Deedubb: maybe the ext3-fs is the problem... the ext3 journalling isn't particularly clever. try formatting it with reiserfs and see if that changes something
[01:27] <kristian> well.. i think you snoops know better what's the problem then I do;P i tried so much, that I don't know why it dosen't work ;P
[01:27] <luke> anyone know how to fix the cdrom not mounting anymore? I stalled VMWare (only thing that has changed laterly) but it worked fine, until I changed CDs now it never mounts
[01:29] <KenSentMe> I'm filing a bug, but i don't have an english gnome manu at hand. Can someone tell if System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager is the right way to point to Synaptic
[01:29] <luke> KenSentMe looks fine
[01:29] <KenSentMe> luke: correct words?
[01:29] <luke> yes
[01:29] <KenSentMe> luke: thanx
[01:30] <dockane> hi all... installed dapper drake on a thinkpad t21 but when the boot preocess comes to gdm login, display stays black and switching to consoles is not possible. lspci says "0000:01:00.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV"
[01:30] <dockane> any ideas how to solve this?
[01:30] <kristian> but thx for the help anyway snoops, I have to go now:)
[01:30] <foxiness> Mandalf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186430
[01:30] <yallaman> amarok works nice:) is it skinnable?..where to get if so?
[01:31] <Mandalf> foxiness: I take a look on it
[01:32] <wootin> how do i install openssl devel ?
[01:32] <Inferus> sudo apt-get install ? :)
[01:32] <foxiness> Mandalf, ok i hope it will fix your problem :)
[01:33] <Mandalf> foxiness: I reboot now
[01:33] <wootin> is there an openssl devel package? how do i search for one?
[01:33] <luke> anyone had CD mounting issues?
[01:33] <ompaul> luke, it should auto mount if it is a good image
[01:34] <luke> things used to work, now nothing does. Proper music CDs, DVDs etc
[01:34] <ompaul> luke, check out System Administration Disks - could it be that the player is just so old that it is has moved on and shuffled off its mortal leds?
[01:35] <luke> the drive is not that old. got a replacement 4 months ago,
[01:35] <luke>  System Administration Disks says there is no disc inserted
[01:36] <stefg> ... cabel checking time :-) ...
[01:36] <wootin> omg no openssl-devel
[01:37] <wootin> :o
[01:37] <ufk> hiya
[01:37] <sltgroove> http://www.openssl.org/source/
[01:38] <stefg> waht about libssl-dev ?
[01:38] <martibs> how can I use the nice "Human" mouse cursor in X without Gnome?
[01:38] <ufk> i apt-get install mysql-server, it didn't ask me about any user or password to access the db. what do i do?
[01:39] <wootin> thanks stefg
[01:39] <Chameleon22> i am using cyrus 2.1 with pam auth and sasldb - when i try to connect using cyradmin (cyradm --user cyrus localhost) I get an error: cyradm: cannot authenticate to server as user cyrus. Password appears to be in sasldb2 file and mail log displays the following error: "Jun 27 21:33:58 fatty cyrus/imapd[13599] : badlogin: localhost[127.0.0.1]  DIGEST-MD5 [SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database] " any ideas on how to fix that?
[01:39] <Chameleon22> Googled, checked out cyrus how-to's - no luck...
[01:39] <wootin> was getting worried there for a sec
[01:40] <luke> hmm
[01:41] <J_P> hi all..
[01:41] <ampop> hi J_P
[01:44] <Sohail> Hello everyone
[01:44] <Seveas> hi
[01:44] <foxiness> hi
[01:45] <dockane> lspci says "0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 86C270-294 Savage/IX-MV (rev 11)", nor more "Non-VGA unclassified device:"
[01:45] <Sohail> can someone give me an idea on how to install dapper from an iso image on a windows partition
[01:45] <Seveas> Sohail, burn the image to disc, boot from the burned disc
[01:45] <Sohail> don't have that option right now Seveas
[01:45] <Seveas> stefg, in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <Seveas> Sohail, then order a free cd from shipit.ubuntu.com and wait a few weeks
[01:48] <Sohail> i read method of how to install from net, ita says the method can be changed to install from cd image but the parameters passed to the kernel must be different and there is no mention of how to do that but refers that the same has been acheived for knoppix
[01:51] <stefg> Sohail: if you already have an Ubuntu-ISO on the same disk (not same partition of course :) ) you could try to mount -o loop ubuntu*.iso to /cdrom from another VT in the installer. That's how i save time installing
[01:52] <Sohail> stefg: can you be a bit more elaborative please
[01:53] <stefg> Phewww. that'll become longish... Do you have an already partitioned disk, which you will not let the installer partition automatically? Is there a downloaded ubuntu*.iso somwhere on it?
[01:54] <Sohail> have a windows xp patition where i have both the iso and the complete cd image
[01:55] <stefg> good... and is there already another partiton or unused space on the hd?
[01:56] <Sohail> have a previous horribly broken installtion of dapper ... which i want to overwrite
[01:56] <blu_attac> i have installed the desktop into ubuntu server now how do i get it to run the desktop?
[01:56] <Evilsmevil> hi all
[01:56] <stefg> fine... are you in some flavour of linux now, so that you can have a fdisk -l listing?
[01:56] <Sohail> blu_attac: /etc/init.d/gdm start
[01:56] <Seveas> blu_attac, reboot
[01:57] <Evilsmevil> im having problems upgrading gnome-session because it Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>=1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed
[01:57] <Cas> Sohail: not that I ever tried it but there is something like win2linstall
[01:57] <Sohail> stefg: no am on windows ... only thing that connects me to the net
[01:57] <stefg> Sohail: ok, but you know your partiton-layout?
[01:57] <Evilsmevil> and 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is the latest version in the repos
[01:57] <Cas> Sohail: it let you install a mounted cd (e.g. with deamontools) while in windows
[01:57] <Cas> Sohail: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[01:58] <Sohail> read that Cas but that works for the net only
[01:58] <Sohail> stefg: i guess ... /dev/hda3 is where i have everything and there is a swap and boot partition
[01:59] <Cas> Sohail: and instlux? http://instlux.sourceforge.net/
[01:59] <stefg> and the winXP is on /dev/hda1 in linuxspeak?
[01:59] <stefg> with the ISO on it?
[02:00] <Deedubb> !changelog
[02:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about changelog
[02:00] <kbrooks> how might I create a number of users from a text file?
[02:00] <stefg> The problem with installing from an ISO image is, that you can't alter the partiton table of the disk where the ISO is on.. that won'T work
[02:01] <Sohail> stefg: yes
[02:01] <stefg> Ok, then move or copy the ISO to the root-dir of the win XP-drive, this will facilitate things
[02:01] <JanK> i yesterday installed ubuntu and then winxp. my problem now is, that xp has overriden the mbr, how can i reinstall GRUB?
[02:01] <Cas> kbrooks: something like: for i in `cat users`; do adduser $i; done
[02:02] <Sohail> stefg: the ubuntu*.iso or the folder having the contents of the cd?
[02:02] <stefg> the image itself... so it's win path is C:\Ubuntu*.iso
[02:02] <Sohail> ok done
[02:02] <jrib> ubotu: tell JanK about grub
[02:03] <Sohail> but c:\ is ntfs
[02:03] <Cas> kbrooks: you need to tweak the adduser command a bit that it does it all in one command, and add a && mkdir /home/$i
[02:04] <ajayc> guys i cant get enemy territory to run in 1024x768
[02:04] <stefg> Sohail: so the trick is... you boot the CD and let the installer start to do its thing. But when it stops somewhere (to ask for the keyboard layout or something) then you press [ctrl-alt-f2]  to go to another virtual terminal. there you have a shell after activating it by keypress and can do clever things
[02:05] <ajayc> guys i cant get enemy territory to run in 1024x768
[02:05] <JanK> ubotu: tell JanK about grub
[02:05] <SonicChao> How do I get Java to work in Ubuntu?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> !java > SonicChao
[02:06] <viviersf> !java
[02:06] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:06] <Evilsmevil> hi, ive compiled some libraries (libpango 1.12.3) by myself using make install etc. how can i update synaptic so that i knows the new version is there?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> SonicChao: read teh pm ubotu sent you
[02:06] <ajayc> guys i cant get enemy territory to run in 1024x768
[02:06] <Sohail> stefg: right but my confusion is how to boot from that iso
[02:06] <stefg> on the second VT you enter 'mount -o loop ubuntu*.iso /cdrom' (exact name required) this will supermount the ISO image over the pysical CD
[02:06] <Cas> ajayc: pls stop spamming
[02:06] <ajayc> Cas: oh! ok
[02:06] <g-nome> hello, how can i have this weather/temperature information like here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/pre1/39179-1.jpg (top right)?
[02:06] <ajayc> come on someone help me
[02:07] <stefg> you cannot boot from the iso... you have to boot from the CD... but change to the ISO in the process
[02:07] <Evilsmevil> ajayc: does it work in other resolutions?
[02:07] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: only in 800x600
[02:07] <ajayc> i have a laptop with 1024
[02:07] <ajayc> ubuntu runs in 1024
[02:07] <ajayc> but not the game
[02:07] <tripox> g-nome: right click on the panel and choose add to panel.
[02:08] <g-nome> tripox: but where to find the applet?
[02:08] <ufk> i apt-get install mysql-server, how do i set a username and a password?
[02:08] <NET||abuse> when i run apt-get update, i get a line reading Ign http://xgl.compiz.info dapper/main Packages
[02:08] <NET||abuse> what does this mean?
[02:08] <tripox> g-nome: i think its standart
[02:09] <Cas> g-nome: search for weather in the searchbox ;)
[02:09] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: ?
[02:09] <NET||abuse> man apt-get doesn't expand on the Get Hit and Ign messages i am getting
[02:09] <stefg> Sohail: BTW i'm talking about the text-mode installer... the CDs which are marked as *alternate*
[02:09] <g-nome> oh, yes
[02:09] <tripox> g-nome: "Weather Report" :P
[02:10] <yallaman> YAY..watch this movie... its awesome..mirror 2 works http://forums.anarchy-online.com/showthread.php?t=435769
[02:10] <Evilsmevil> ajayc: ok so what error do you get when it doesnt work?
[02:10] <Sohail> stefg: but the cd-rom would be hooked right ... and i believe the mount command would not cause any problem
[02:11] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: it works but the screen of the game is shifted towards the left than at the centre
[02:11] <shenki> !coc
[02:11] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[02:11] <stefg> Sohail: i understood that you're not able to burn a errorfree CD-medium, therefor looking for a way to install without a working CD
[02:12] <Evilsmevil> ajayc:  can you modify your display so that it works properly?
[02:12] <rambo3> there is floppy install for breezy
[02:12] <Sohail> stefg: yes .... but u mentioned to boot from and alternate CD
[02:13] <stefg> yes. you only BOOT from the CD, but INSTALL from an iso
[02:13] <stefg> you can boot from CD, can't you?
[02:13] <evert> hello all , i'm having problems to get a 'texas instruments acx 111" wlan card from us robotics working... can somebody help me pls ?
[02:13] <Cas> Sohail: what is wrong with instlux?
[02:13] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: i have tried setting the game to 1024 but it wont change btw  i got a laptop
[02:13] <Sohail> stefg: that's what i am referring to ... when i will boot from it the cdrom will be mounted and mount -o will remount the iso
[02:14] <Evilsmevil> ajayc: what graphics card are you using?
[02:14] <Evilsmevil> ajayc: and whats the native resolution of you monitor
[02:14] <stefg> Sohail: that's what i'm trying to explain
[02:14] <stefg> so what's the problem then?
[02:14] <Sohail> stefg: ok got it
[02:15] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: i got intel 915 and native is 1024x768
[02:15] <Evilsmevil> ajayc: does your desktop run at that resolution?
[02:15] <stefg> so any defect sectors on the CD-medium are irrelevant, as long as it boots... youre reading from hd, not from CD
[02:15] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: ues
[02:15] <ajayc> yes
[02:15] <Sohail> Cas, stefg: i am going to booth from NT Grub that instlux copies, and then for whatever reason it pauses will shift to another terminal and mount the iso
[02:16] <stefg> yup, that's it
[02:17] <Sohail> ok thanx alot ... hope i don't ruin my windows :) ... hope fully i will thank you again from dapper
[02:17] <stefg> Isos are alway read-only... nothing to risk there
[02:17] <Evilsmevil> hi does anyone know how i can install a new version of a package from source and tell my package manager about it?
[02:18] <Sohail> Bye people
[02:19] <ajayc> Evilsmevil: ?
[02:19] <bina> Evilsmevil: I think theres something called checkinstall
[02:19] <Evilsmevil> yeah ive tried that
[02:20] <Evilsmevil> bina: it can install package into the package manager but im not able to overwrite an older package with it
[02:20] <bina> Evilsmevil: oh right
[02:21] <Evilsmevil> bina: so you got any other ideas? or even where i might be able to look
[02:21] <bina> thats all ive heard of really, maybe the ubuntu wiki or just google i suppose.
[02:21] <bina> or just keep asking abut in here im sure osmone will know of one
[02:22] <evert> i'm doing a wiki , but i get this error : FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory
[02:22] <kholerabbi> I need to install cvs, aptitude install cvs pretends it works, but executing "cvs" in the terminal doesn't work !?
[02:22] <Lynoure> kholerabbi: help people help you by providing the error message you got
[02:23] <Bassetts> does anyone know how i can stop fireftp from showing files with ~ on the end
[02:23] <kholerabbi> "bash: cvs: command not found"
[02:23] <luke> hmm
[02:24] <bina> Evilsmevil: There was something in the wiki about building your own packages.  I was trying to upgrade a library on here without getting the package manager out of sync n someone suggested I should build my own package
[02:24] <jrib> kholerabbi: what does 'apt-cache policy cvs | grep -i Installed' say?
[02:24] <luke> Anyone had CDs stop mounting? anything I put in says there is no disc inserted
[02:24] <rowanjl> Hey guys, I'm after some advice. I got my 6.06 cds today, and tried to install them, however Grub refused to boot correctly (Error 22, No such partition), so I had to tell it to boot from the correct partition. Also, the x config failed, so I can't use the gui, which is odd because 5.10 worked fine with my ati card... any thoughts on why this happens?
[02:24] <luke> things worked like 2 hours ago
[02:24] <bina> Evilsmevil: didnt manage it in the end, I just gave up and installed the source :)
[02:24] <kholerabbi> "Installed: none"
[02:25] <evert> how can i install gcc and make ? Synaptic says that gcc is already installed but gcc --version gives an error ?
[02:25] <kholerabbi> "  Installed: (none)"
[02:25] <Evilsmevil> bina: the thing is a missing package in the repos and i need to have it installed to the latest version in order to upgrade something else
[02:25] <jrib> kholerabbi: pastebin the result of 'sudo aptitude install cvs'
[02:25] <kholerabbi> jrib: ok
[02:26] <bina> Evilsmevil: :(
[02:26] <void^> !build-essential > evert
[02:27] <rowanjl> you know what, I'll just try installing again (seventh time tonight) after removing my SATA drives...
[02:27] <Mandalf> foxiness: I can not edit the blacklist file
[02:28] <evert> On that wiki page i can't find some help for making gcc and make working ?
[02:28] <Mandalf> foxiness: It write protectet and i not the owner of the file
[02:28] <stefg> !buils
[02:28] <luke> hmm ok, how wack. I just put in a DVD and it is playing. Seems my CDROM does not like CDs anymore
[02:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about buils
[02:28] <stefg> !build
[02:28] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[02:29] <Cas> I've some serious problems with my USB audio headset. The speakers do work (or should I say did worked) but I can't find out why the mic isn't working. Anyone with some alsa setup experience in here that can help out?
[02:29] <evert> evert@evert-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install build-essential Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd... Klaar E: Kon pakket build-essential niet vinden
[02:30] <evert> It doesn't works
[02:30] <jrib> evert: what does vinden mean? found?
[02:30] <foxiness> !sudo
[02:30] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:30] <kholerabbi> Hehe, I got cvs working, some package not wanting to get removed properly was stopping cvs installing, thanks :)
[02:30] <evert> vinden = to find , sry that's in Dutch
[02:31] <evert> So the error is 'couldn't find packet 'build-essential'
[02:31] <jrib> evert: make sure you have the main repositories enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <foxiness> you need to use "sudo" like on the forum
[02:32] <stefg> and apt-get update afterwards
[02:32] <foxiness> Mandalf, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186430
[02:33] <Mandalf> foxiness: Yeah. I do that. But i can not save changes in blacklist file. It is protected
[02:33] <_stefan> know somebody an irq channel about voip or. asterisk?
[02:33] <foxiness> ubotu, tell Mandalf about sudo
[02:33] <Bassetts> is there an alternative to gaim, i need something better
[02:34] <Wipster> hey all can you help with my problem, basicly I use the live CD and want to install but when it gets to the end of the loading sequence it goes black with a curser in the top left then totaly black and all cd noises stop.
[02:34] <evert> Thx , i had forgotten to enable all repo's
[02:34] <foxiness> Mandalf, why i can :)
[02:34] <Mandalf> foxiness: It says: Your not the owner of the file >_<
[02:35] <Cas> Bassetts: there are many alternatives, you want something lighter? IM protocol specific?
[02:35] <Mandalf> foxiness: when i tried to unlock the protection
[02:35] <bodkin> hi guys,am using dapper new install -need to install avahi-daemon-what repos.is it in please.
[02:35] <siriusly> Wipster...could be a faulty cd...try burning another but at a slower speed...say 20x
[02:35] <foxiness> Mandalf, did you do this form the file browser ?
[02:35] <Wipster> I burnt it at 4x
[02:35] <Bassetts> Cas: gaim just seems, not all there, it doesnt sync my contact list properly or anything, and i need pretty much every IM protocol, i use them all
[02:36] <Cas> Bassetts: you'll could try version 2 but it's still beta
[02:36] <Bassetts> i have that
[02:36] <Bassetts> =)
[02:36] <Mandalf> foxiness: first from terminal. But when i do that it dont want to open. So i take the filebrowser
[02:36] <saif> hello, any1 here know of a way to reset the master password for mozilla without loosing my data??? i have important certificates that i dont want to loose!
[02:36] <Bassetts> its better but my contact lists still dont sync and some other things just arent right, i really need trillian for linux =P
[02:37] <siriusly> np's here with Gaim 2 beta
[02:37] <Wipster> should I do a disk check, my graphics card is the 9800XT if that helps atall
[02:37] <Mandalf> foxiness: It says something about it can not fund the host name
[02:37] <foxiness> Mandalf, you can not do this because you are normal user not the admin "root" sudo mean super user do "root"
[02:37] <Cas> Bassetts: trillian does work under wine, at least it did a few years ago
[02:37] <Yusuke`> hmm
[02:37] <Bassetts> Cas: hmm, was hoping for a OSS solution
[02:38] <Mandalf> foxiness: my accunt are in the oem group
[02:38] <Cas> Bassetts: furthermore there is kopete the default KDE messenger
[02:38] <foxiness> Mandalf, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:38] <Bassetts> i have tried that, dont get on with it
[02:38] <Cas> Bassetts: and there is centericq if you like CLI or bitlbee if you like your IRC client as messenger
[02:38] <jadaz87> !lamp
[02:38] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:39] <Bassetts> i use xchat for irc, dont like CLI =P im a pain arent i
[02:40] <Lathiat> bodkin: avahi is in main
[02:40] <Lathiat> bodkin: simply install the 'avahi-daemon' package should be available out of the box
[02:41] <bodkin> thanks Lathiat cu
[02:41] <Yusuke`> is there an alternative to using wINE? meaning another program that'll play windows applications more natively
[02:41] <Cas> Bassetts: I haven't tried any more, but there are tons. maybe you can find the right one here: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=messenger&section=projects&Go.x=0&Go.y=0
[02:41] <Lathiat> you may also want avhai-discover, service-discovery-applet
[02:41] <Bassetts> thanks Cas
[02:41] <Yusuke`> is there an alternative to using wINE? meaning another program that'll play windows applications more natively
[02:42] <Akuma_> I'm trying to get my screen to display at 1400x1050 - I have a SiS 760 card. Can anyone point me to some usefull documentation?
[02:42] <MrHappy123> i want to format my HD, i have a number of partions on 1 HD, so i just execute this command in my terminal? "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda" Im running linux Desktop edition btw
[02:42] <trygvebw> Is there any reason why BEST is not included in the Beagle package?
[02:42] <bodkin> inkjet
[02:42] <Akuma_> I think i have to set xorg.conf to use the sis driver, but i'm having a hard time finding the exact donc on that
[02:42] <Ng> MrHappy123: that will erase the entire hard disk with zeros. all partitions, all data, boot blocks, partition tables, everything.
[02:42] <darkowl> hello
[02:43] <Cas> Bassetts: np, hope you find one that serves your need, but remember that most IM protocols are closed and reversed engineered so the change of bugs are big
[02:43] <evert> When following the 'acx 111 wlan wiki' i get the following error : evert@evert-desktop:~/Desktop/ACX$ sudo make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:43] <Yusuke`> -=  33+ d wM 00 +G =- is there an alternative to using wINE? meaning another program that'll play windows applications more natively -=  33+ d w3M 00 +G =-
[02:43] <saif> goddamit, this is really getting on my nerves, ubuntu decides every few minuts that i can't click anywhere, and i can't use my keyboard unless it'll already in a text box, tab doesn't work
[02:43] <Bassetts> ok Cas =) thanks for your help
[02:43] <darkowl> I want to know something...I want to know how can i find files that have "conf" in ther name using console ?
[02:43] <MrHappy123> Ng: what about 'bad sectors' ?
[02:43] <saif> it simply stops taking input
[02:43] <Cas> MrHappy123: mkfs.<FS> does format it
[02:44] <MrHappy123> Cas, I'm not sure if i understand
[02:44] <Nilsy> Bassetts, you could setup your own jabber server with the correct transports and then connect to that ;)
[02:44] <Ng> MrHappy123: in theory bad sectors are disabled by the drive itself, but there's also a "badblocks" tool that can scan for them
[02:45] <thoreauputic> darkowl: something like " locate *conf* " I think
[02:45] <Bassetts> Nilsy: i need aim, yahoo, jabber, msn, icq - i have a hosting business and they are for customer support
[02:45] <Cas> MrHappy123: You just want to format a partition right? or change your partition table too?
[02:45] <sss> guys ,how can i change the folder's property?
[02:45] <luke> what properties?
[02:45] <KenSentMe> sss: you mean user rights? use chown
[02:46] <MrHappy123> Cas, i want to wipe my entire disk because i need to send it back to the manafacturer
[02:46] <KenSentMe> sss: sorry, chmod
[02:46] <darkowl> thoreauputic: no it finds only the files that start with conf
[02:46] <sss> densentme,tell me the full command
[02:46] <KenSentMe> sss: what do you want to change?
[02:46] <evert> Pff getting the wlan card working is no fun :( it won't work
[02:46] <thoreauputic> darkowl: try  locate conf | less
[02:47] <saif> is there a way to copy my form data and certificates from mozilla? i need to reset the master password, so i will loose all the data!
[02:47] <sss> kensentme ,i wanna change the context of the folder
[02:47] <KenSentMe> sss: what context do you want to change, from what to what?
[02:47] <Yusuke`> .9is there an alternative to using wINE? meaning another program that'll play windows applications more natively
[02:47] <Yusuke`> is there an alternative to using wINE? meaning another program that'll play windows applications more natively
[02:47] <Yusuke`> *
[02:47] <sss> i wanna add some pic to the folder
[02:48] <ompaul> !test
[02:48] <stefg> Yusuke`: vmplayer :-)
[02:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[02:48] <Yusuke`> hmm
[02:48] <Yusuke`> (stefg) would you say it runs apps more natively?
[02:48] <Ro1> vmplayer is to emulate an operating system
[02:48] <MrHappy123> I get a premission denied when executing dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda command, im using linux desktop edition
[02:48] <KenSentMe> sss: and you can't put the file in right now, because you don't have enough rights?
[02:48] <sss> from a webpage ,save to the folder
[02:49] <Yusuke`> i'm fairly new to ubuntu, actually linux in general
[02:49] <sss> yea,i guess
[02:49] <KenSentMe> !chmod
[02:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod
[02:49] <Cas> MrHappy123: then your way wasn't that wrong, you could also use /dev/random for it
[02:49] <Darkbyte> Hello, I'm using dapper and I need install php5-dbase package. But I'm not find it. Who I do to found it? Help me please !!!
[02:49] <Cas> MrHappy123: be sure you umount the disk first
[02:49] <darkowl> thoreauputic: no it looks like its working but i made a file in my home directory named eBook Unix For Dummies.zip and when i search locate unix | more it doesnt find it
[02:49] <stefg> Yusuke`: i was joking... you'll have to install windows in a virtual machine. Then the programs run in windows, not an emulation
[02:50] <Cas> MrHappy123: and be root or use sudo
[02:50] <Yusuke`> what if i have a dual partition on my hardisk of windows and ubuntu?
[02:50] <MrHappy123> how do i become root? i haven't even set a password
[02:50] <thoreauputic> darkowl: spaces and case issues ?
[02:51] <xophEr> MrHappy123, sudo passwd root
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> darkowl: sudo updatedb (first)
[02:51] <regebro> Uh, does others have problemd with updates now, or just me?
[02:51] <Cas> MrHappy123: just use sudo -s
[02:51] <KenSentMe> sss: in terminal type 'sudo chmod 0777 <path-to-dir>
[02:51] <regebro> I get "Could not resolve 'proxy'" which makes little sense to me. :)
[02:51] <thoreauputic> darkowl: if it's in your home dir, what's the problem with finding it?
[02:52] <g-nome> anyone using OPERA?
[02:52] <Ro1> yup. its my favorite browser
[02:52] <MrHappy123> Cas, 'sudo -s dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda' will do?
[02:52] <Cas> MrHappy123: no, loose the -s then
[02:52] <KenSentMe> !tell MrHappy123 about sudo
[02:52] <siriusly> yeah how does one get the w32 codecs/mplayer plug-in working in Opera?
[02:53] <Cas> and you need to set bs i think
[02:53] <Cas> MrHappy123: or try this one: http://dban.sourceforge.net/
[02:53] <Ro1> dont know about that, ,, srry
[02:53] <rambo3> siriusly read wiki page , i set up mine that way
[02:53] <darkowl> thoreauputic: i want to know...I have a file named googleismybestfriend and now i want to preform a search with term best and i want it to recognize it in filename googleismybestfriend
[02:53] <siriusly> cheers rambo
[02:53] <Yusuke`> =X
[02:53] <KenSentMe> Is there someone here that uses the dutch version of Kubuntu?
[02:53] <Cas> MrHappy123: and please watch out, remove any other hd's for instance before doing stuff like this
[02:54] <g-nome> Rol: how to remove the tray icon then?
[02:54] <evert> can i easily change from ubunut to Kubuntu ?
[02:54] <Ng> evert: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop :)
[02:54] <Ng> evert: then select the appropriate session from the login screen
[02:54] <evert> how big is that download NG ?
[02:54] <g-nome> anyone knows how to remove the opera system tray icon?
[02:54] <thoreauputic> darkowl:  ls *best* in the dir concerned
[02:54] <Ng> evert: offhand I'm not sure. It will tell you before it does it. probably a couple of hundred mb
[02:54] <Yusuke`> how can i be sure my hardware drivers are up to date?
[02:55] <Ro1> why is there a system tray icon?
[02:55] <Yusuke`> ^_^
[02:55] <evert> ok thx NG
[02:55] <thoreauputic> darkowl: with both *
[02:55] <Ro1> is there options hwne you right click it?
[02:55] <Donkeyboy> anyone know if there is a plan to have wxpython in the repo anytime soon?
[02:56] <darkowl> thoreauputic: and how would i include subfolders ?
[02:56] <evert> when i install kubuntu with the command you     gave NG , do i have all kde software too ?
[02:56] <sss> kensentme,it works,thanku
[02:56] <stefg> Yusuke`: this is 'windows-think'... you have a specific kernel version, that's all you'll need
[02:56] <KenSentMe> sss: no problemo
[02:56] <Yusuke`> hmm
[02:56] <thoreauputic> darkowl: ls -R ( man ls)
[02:56] <Ng> evert: not all kde software, just what would be installed along with kubuntu
[02:56] <g-nome> Rol: isn't there one for you?
[02:56] <Yusuke`> i think you're right
[02:56] <g-nome> i have one
[02:56] <regebro> I don't have a /etc/apt/apt.conf  . Is that normal?
[02:56] <Ro1> gnome: what cha mean?
[02:56] <MrHappy123> Ok, i typed in sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda in the terminal, and not its jsut blinking...
[02:56] <MrHappy123> not = now
[02:57] <evert> ok
[02:57] <g-nome> Rol: an opera system tray icon (right click gives you options like "new tab" etc...)
[02:57] <Ro1> oh...but i'm saying i've never seem an option in tray...you mean while its running right?
[02:57] <g-nome> Rol: yes
[02:57] <g-nome> t's opera 9
[02:58] <g-nome> what do you have?
[02:58] <Ro1> ah i see it now
[02:58] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: it does what it's doing very quietly
[02:58] <Ro1> its just...i used to use windoze
[02:58] <evert> i installed 'wirelles assistent' but how can i run it as root ? I don't know the command to start it ... It's only in the men
[02:58] <stefg> MrHappy123: you're about to witness your harddrive being overwritten with zeros...
[02:58] <Ro1> and it wasnt there
[02:58] <MrHappy123> How do i know if the format is in process or when its finished?
[02:58] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: why did you run that command?
[02:58] <g-nome> Rol: no it's not in win but in linux yes
[02:58] <RedBlades> Hi all
[02:58] <Ro1> yeah..i see now
[02:58] <Ro1> hello
[02:58] <MrHappy123> hyph, i want to wipe my HD
[02:58] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: when it's finished, you'll be back at your prompt. but that's not formatting. that's just overwriting the disk with zeroes
[02:59] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: shoulda used /dev/urandom then ;-)
[02:59] <MrHappy123> ok, how do i stop thi \s now?
[02:59] <MrHappy123> close the terminal?
[02:59] <evert> i installed 'wirelles assistent' but how can i run it as root ? I don't know the command to start it ... It's only in the menu
[02:59] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: from another shell, run 'sudo fuser -k -USR1 /bin/dd
[02:59] <sss> kensentme , i used the pic which i saved to the folder to create a new menu right now ,but why i cant see the new menu?
[02:59] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: and it'll tell you what it's up to
[02:59] <thoreauputic> darkowl: for instance : ls -R | grep best
[03:00] <RedBlades> If I have a windows box and I wish to keep the setting email etc for thunderbird and firefox, how do I?
[03:00] <MrHappy123> hyph, it just returns nothing..
[03:01] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: the terminal running dd should have output a couple of lines
[03:01] <MrHappy123> nothing here
[03:01] <Ro1> did anyone find the reason for the tray icon?
[03:01] <Ro1> i'm still trying to find something
[03:01] <darkowl> thoreauputic: thank you very much ! And my last question is it possible to scan for Best and get the result googleisyourbestfriend ?
[03:01] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: tip #2: you should use the 'bs=1024' option to dd, otherwise it'll take days/weeks to complete
[03:02] <MrHappy123> for zeros?
[03:02] <Ro1> who was the person that wanted to get rid of tray icon??
[03:02] <thoreauputic> darkowl: to grep without case sensitivity use grep -i
[03:02] <RedBlades> Hello?
[03:02] <RedBlades> How do I back up all thatstuff so I can use it in Ubuntu?
[03:02] <thoreauputic> darkowl: for instance  ls -R | grep -i Best
[03:02] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: it's doing it in blocks of 1 byte currently. you want to do it in larger chunks
[03:02] <darkowl> thoreauputic: thank you very much i really needed this !
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> Could not resolve mount point /media/network/Emma
[03:02] <evert> Can somebody help me with getting wlan working ? I'm trying it already for more as an our :(
[03:02] <darkowl> Bye
[03:03] <Tommy2k4> yet when i try to mkdir it says it already exists
[03:03] <thoreauputic> darkowl: :)
[03:03] <Tommy2k4> what could be the problem?
[03:03] <Tommy2k4> "mount" in console says its already mounted but i cant see it in konqueror
[03:04] <Ro1> YAYAYYA i found the opera sys tray problem
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> what was the problem ro1?
[03:04] <Ro1> in terminal write: opera -notrayicon
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> o
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> tray icon ftw
[03:04] <Ro1> hwo needed that?
[03:04] <Ro1> *who
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> ro1 if you press ctrl + h does it still minimize to tray
[03:05] <RedBlades> How do I install a Dial up Modem with ubuntu?
[03:05] <darkowl> thoreauputic: do you know maybe how could i make it also print the location of founded files ?
[03:05] <kbrosnan> RedBlades, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Migrating_settings_to_a_new_profile
[03:05] <Ro1> Tommy...no it minmixxes to the taskbar
[03:05] <RedBlades> Please note I have never installed an external modem before.
[03:05] <hyphenated> MrHappy123: if I really wanted to zap a harddrive so it's completely unrecoverable using dd (instead of just making a new filesystem on that partition, which takes about 10 seconds), I'd use dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda1 bs=1024 (or even larger numbers for bs). then I'd do it 20 more times.
[03:05] <Tommy2k4> oh :(
[03:05] <L-----D> !suspend
[03:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about suspend
[03:05] <Cas> wasn't there a specific audio channel?
[03:06] <MrHappy123> thanks for your help guys, i willl be right back
[03:06] <ubuntu> hallo
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> why does "mount" say that a samba share is already mounted yet i cant view it in konqueror or any other app
[03:06] <Lynoure> MrHappy123: If you plan to do wha hyphenated said, it will take a long while
[03:06] <ubuntu> zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/share/genkernel/x86/kernel-config-2.6
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> and when i try mount -t it says mount point could not be resolved, but when i try to mkdir the mount point it says it already exists
[03:06] <rowanjl> Ok, I fixed grub, and installed again, however X isn't working (fails to start), any idea what I should do?
[03:07] <hyphenated> Lynoure: even longer with his current command which doesn't specify bs at all
[03:07] <ubuntu> who is the config.gz at the ubuntu live cd?
[03:07] <darkowl> thoreauputic: do you know maybe how could i make it also print the location of founded files ?
[03:08] <rowanjl> For anyone willing to help, I've got an ATI x800
[03:08] <Ro1> just wodnering...how do all of you learn so much
[03:08] <Ro1> i have ati x600
[03:08] <Hobbsee> davidoc: please turn off that away message, thanks!
[03:08] <jos59> geforce 2
[03:08] <Ro1> (the X600 is in ma laptop!)
[03:08] <Lynoure> hyphenated: I was about to recommend some handy tools for the same. There are nice bootable cds with erase tools and other niceness, a joy to have around :)
[03:08] <rowanjl> I'm not even sure why the card would work correctly on 5.10, but not 6.06...
[03:09] <hyphenated> Lynoure: got any favourites?
[03:09] <Ro1> my laptop rocks.......AMD64 3700+......100GB HD.....1GB Ram......ATI X600 256mb..............15.4" widescreen...Ubuntu 32bit
[03:09] <Inferus> not much different to mine :)
[03:09] <Ro1> and it was only $1300
[03:09] <darkowl> thoreauputic: do you know maybe how could i make it also print the location of founded files ?
[03:09] <Ro1> Gateway 7510GX
[03:09] <Lynoure> hyphenated: Yes, but cannot remember what it was called. Wait a min.
[03:10] <Inferus> AMD 3400, 100gb hdd, 512mb ram, x700 15.4'' :)
[03:10] <Inferus> Ro1 why have you got ubuntu 32
[03:10] <Ro1> not bad
[03:10] <Inferus> its 64 :)
[03:10] <rowanjl> I've had so much trouble getting ubuntu to even install this time around... it was fine with my SATA drive, but it didn't like my old 10Gb IDE drive...
[03:10] <Ro1> because i used to have SuSE 64 bit...and i didnt wann ahave hard time with drivers....i actualy have my wireless card working
[03:10] <Cas> Ro1, Inferus: use #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat ;)
[03:10] <thoreauputic> darkowl: patience please :) I'm doing other stuff here - I saw your question
[03:10] <rowanjl> Anyway, can someone tell me how to configure X?
[03:10] <Inferus> suppose Ro1
[03:10] <regebro> How do I debug what apt is trying to do, and why it fails?
[03:10] <Ro1> YES INFERUS
[03:11] <Inferus> : )
[03:11] <darkowl> thoreauputic: OK ! I thought that you didnt see my question...
[03:11] <var> I lost my panel on Kubuntu, how do I get it back?
[03:11] <Ro1> i'm gonn go in ubuntu-offtopic!
[03:11] <RedBlades> rowanjl: having issues?
[03:11] <wootin> ive found ubuntu more challenging than gentoo
[03:11] <Inferus> lmao
[03:11] <rowanjl> RedBlades: big issues
[03:11] <RedBlades> go on
[03:11] <Cas> regebro: don't you get any error messages?
[03:11] <pluffsy> hi
[03:11] <regebro> Cas: sure do.
[03:11] <evert> Where do i get .inf files from my wlan drivers ?
[03:12] <pluffsy> is it difficult to setup ubuntu with selinux? or can that be done via gui?
[03:12] <evert> Can i find them on my xp system ?
[03:12] <Ro1> evert: what type of card is it
[03:12] <Ro1> Yes you can
[03:12] <RedBlades> rowanjl: well?
[03:12] <regebro> Cas: "Could not resolve 'proxy'
[03:12] <evert> US robotics 54Mpbs , with acx 111 chipset ... i'm going to try it with ndiswrapper
[03:12] <var> Can anyone help me get my toolbar/panel back on Kubuntu?  It just up and disappeared and I can't get to the settings
[03:12] <rowanjl> This is the sevent time I've installed Ubuntu tonight, for the first six I tried various different partition layouts as Grub refused to boot ANYTHING, then this time around I removed one of my IDE hard drives, and it works fine...
[03:12] <Ro1> ndiswrapper is best bet...do you need help?
[03:12] <pluffsy> Ro1: was that to  me or someone else? :)
[03:12] <evert> yes i would really appreciate that Ro1
[03:12] <Ro1> it was to EVERT
[03:13] <pluffsy> ok
[03:13] <regebro> Cas: I have no idea why it's trying to resolve "proxy" in the first place.
[03:13] <RedBlades> rowanjl: what version?
[03:13] <Cas> regebro: have you set a proxy somewhere, and does it work?
[03:13] <Ro1> evert: you just need the inf file?
[03:13] <rowanjl> Now, for some reason X was never configured during the setup, and last time I had to manualy configure X was in 1999...
[03:13] <rowanjl> RedBlades: I'm using 6.06
[03:13] <RedBlades> Hmm...
[03:13] <Lynoure> hyphenated: I liked the one from http://sysresccd.org last I used it (a year or so ago)
[03:13] <regebro> Cas I have no proxy setting anywhere as far as I can find.
[03:13] <RedBlades> I've never had issues with a 6.06 setup.
[03:13] <evert> First time i'm trying to use wlan with linux , but where can i find the .inf file on the windows partition , so i can make a start ?
[03:13] <RedBlades> It's suppose3d to go smoothly...
[03:13] <var> Anyone?
[03:14] <Cas> regebro: dunno much about setting proxies but i'll try to help you; can you do 'export | grep -i proxy'
[03:14] <RedBlades> var open konsole and try "killall kicker"
[03:14] <regebro> Cas: Aha!
[03:14] <Cas> regebro: and do you get anything there?
[03:14] <RedBlades> if that doesn't work, just type kicker
[03:14] <Ro1> EVERT: Do you just need the drivers?
[03:14] <regebro> Where the fidget did THAT come from!
[03:14] <rowanjl> RedBlades: For Grub, it would point to the correct partition, but simply refuse to boot from it untill I removed that 10Gb hard drive...
[03:15] <evert> I have an *.exe of the drivers ,but ndiswrapper wants a .inf file
[03:15] <neopsyche> hi all
[03:15] <Ro1> yes...there might be the inf and sys files in the exe
[03:15] <rowanjl> But thats fixed now, I just need to get X working :/
[03:15] <regebro> Cas, ah, oh, it settings I did when i worked at a client 9 months ago.
[03:15] <var> RedBlades: It opens and goes: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[03:15] <RedBlades> rowanjl: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:15] <regebro> It seems that apt suddenly cares about them (probably the upgrade to dapper). Thanks.
[03:15] <RedBlades> var, have you tried rebooting?
[03:16] <evert> Yes but i can't open the exe with linux lol
[03:16] <neopsyche> can anyone help me, im confused about the linux distro lindows? is it lindows or linspire? also, is it easier to install and use for newbies than ubuntu? or is ubuntu easier?
[03:16] <Ro1> evert: download wine
[03:16] <var> RedBlades: Yes -- twice.
[03:16] <Cas> regebro: try to figure out what did set it, also be sure it's not in your root environment too
[03:16] <Ro1> evert: are you using dapper?
[03:16] <evert> yes
[03:16] <Akuma_> evert - try to untar it maybe.
[03:16] <Ro1> downlaod WINE
[03:16] <Akuma_> *rar
[03:16] <MrHappy123> Ok, i just executed "sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda" How can i view its progress?
[03:16] <RedBlades> neopsyche: Ubuntu is easy as, and Linspire is an abomonation.
[03:16] <Ro1> evert: need help getting wine?
[03:16] <neopsyche> lol
[03:16] <regebro> Cas: It's in my .profile. :) I'm sure I can fix it now, thanks.
[03:17] <burepe2> I can't get my network to share files. Can someone help me?
[03:17] <Cas> regebro: glad to hear it, and you're welcome
[03:17] <Ro1> evert: DO YOU HAVE WINE
[03:17] <evert> i can't unrar it because it's a *.exe file ;) , but installing wine is a to much work for getting that inf file. It's somewhere on the ntfs partition but where ?
[03:17] <Ro1> GET WINE
[03:17] <Ro1> NO its not
[03:17] <evert> ok
[03:17] <Ro1> just download the deb from synaptics managaer
[03:17] <evert> i'll give it a try to install wine
[03:17] <Ro1> need help?
[03:17] <Cas> tell Ro1 about shout
[03:18] <Ro1> !tell ro1 about shout
[03:18] <Cas> tell cas about shout
[03:18] <Cas> !tell cas about shout
[03:18] <Ro1> cas: you needed the !
[03:18] <Cas> ah, tnx Ro1 :)
[03:18] <Ro1> np
[03:18] <Ro1> lol
[03:18] <evert> i'm installing wine
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> everet, do you just need someone on a windows box to uncompress that file?
[03:18] <MrHappy123> anyone know please?
[03:19] <Barkley> how do you turn off the "you have new mail" message in a bash shell?
[03:19] <Ro1> evert: where are you installing the wine package from
[03:19] <evert> good idea , i'm going to execute the exe on a windows box
[03:19] <Ro1> ok
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> I'm still a little asleep so if that was completely wrong ... im sorry
[03:20] <Ng> Barkley: edit .bash_profile in your home directory and put a line at the bottom that says: export MAILCHECK=0
[03:20] <burepe2> My windows comp doesn't see my ubuntu comp so I can't share files. Any suggestions?
[03:20] <Ro1> burep2: so theres no other partitions visible, like hda1 or hda2
[03:21] <burepe2> no
[03:21] <Ro1> in ubuntu right?
[03:21] <Barkley> Ng thanks a lot
[03:21] <burepe2> ubuntu
[03:21] <burepe2> what do you mean
[03:21] <Ro1> when your in ubuntu you cant see hda1
[03:22] <erpel> hello
[03:22] <Cas> erpel: hi
[03:22] <Ro1> burpe2: open up a browser (firefox) and type /media
[03:22] <Roconda_> hi, my sound isnt working with games and I saw some information in debug..
[03:22] <Roconda_> Initializing SDL audio driver...
[03:22] <Roconda_> SDL audio driver is "(UNKNOWN)".
[03:22] <Roconda_> SDL_OpenAudio() failed: No available audio device
[03:22] <Roconda_> Sound intialization failed.
[03:23] <burepe2> Ro1 it is not there
[03:23] <burepe2> just the cdrom
[03:23] <Cas> !tell Roconda_ about pastebin
[03:23] <Ro1> ok
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Roconda_: Seems your sound card isnt working with anything.. not just games
[03:23] <Roconda_> sorry for pasting
[03:23] <Cas> Roconda_: what game? et?
[03:23] <Ro1> well....as far as my noobness goes...i dont think you can share
[03:23] <Roconda_> tremulous
[03:23] <Roconda_> and nexus
[03:23] <Roconda_> xmms works :s
[03:24] <rowanjl> RedBlades: well, thanks for pointing that out, but it still won't load: (EE) No deviced detected.
[03:24] <burepe2> Ro1: I don't think that is true.
[03:24] <Tmob> is flashplugin-nonfree removed from ubuntu repo?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> darkowl: you can try somthing like  locate $(ls -R | grep -i Best)
[03:24] <Tmob> i can't seem to find it
[03:24] <erpel> im currently upgrading my brothers machine from 5.10 to 6.06, and the graphical upgrader got stuck while processing gstreamer0.8-jack. i looked around and it seems that the post remove script was the problem, i terminated it and then was told by the upgrader to report the bug, how do i do that?
[03:24] <Ro1> burepe2: but i'm saying...i dont know...i just started using ubuntu yesterday ...so i'm a noob
[03:24] <frans> I'm dual booting Ubuntu and XP. I needed to reinstall XP, and it killed grub. How can I get grub back so I can boot Ubuntu?
[03:24] <Tmob> i'm on dapper...
[03:25] <rowanjl> Before that: (WW) ATI: PCI Mach64 in slot 1:0:0 could not be detected!
[03:25] <rowanjl> it also complains about slot 1:0:1
[03:25] <Jack_Sparrow> frans, when I did that I used a copy of Mepis live to reinstall grub..\
[03:25] <burepe2> Ro1 I am pretty familiar but I am having a problem. It is possible
[03:25] <Tmob> anyone know how to install flash from apt in ubuntu?
[03:26] <Cas> Roconda_: can you try do this: 'export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp' and then start the game(s)
[03:26] <burepe2> Tmob: flash for what program
[03:26] <burepe2> ?
[03:26] <Roconda_> Cas: so ./tremulous.x86 export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp
[03:26] <Tmob> burepe2, firefox.. flash plugin
[03:26] <darkowl> thoreauputic: no that doesnt work...
[03:26] <Cas> Roconda_: no export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=dsp && ./tremulous.x86
[03:27] <Roconda_> ok
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Darkbyte: yes it does - just did it here
[03:27] <Gambaroni> Does synaptics driver not work? Because my scrollbutton doesnt work and xorg.log says "UnloadModule: "synaptics""
[03:27] <Gambaroni> ??
[03:27] <burepe2> Tmob: it will auto install through firefox
[03:27] <thoreauputic> bah darkowl that was for you - sorry Darkbyte
[03:27] <Roconda_> Cas: it dont work
[03:28] <Tmob> burepe2, it gives an error for me
[03:28] <s-toned> I'd like to prepare a piece of iso-image or meta-package or script to install all the software I want to install after the standard installation. What would be the best way for that?
[03:28] <Tmob> burepe2, says can't install or something..
[03:28] <Darkbyte> ok ... tks to all
[03:28] <OmegaNine> Im nto 100% sure this is the place to ask, but I was tyring to install XGL and when I ran apt-get to install compiz it said it wasnt found.  Are they keeping that somewhere else now?
[03:28] <burepe2> Tmob: sorry
[03:28] <thoreauputic> darkowl: your locate database has to be updated for it to work, of course
[03:28] <darkowl> thoreauputic: i runned  locate $(ls -R | grep -i unix) and i get  /usr/lib/realtimebattle/Arenas/Forest.arena
[03:29] <thoreauputic> darkowl: your file name has spaces
[03:29] <thoreauputic> darkowl: that confuses matters
[03:29] <s-toned> A script with several apt-get install software1 software2 ... seems to be the easiest way, but needs attention during installation because of dependencies. (I think)
[03:29] <Cas> Roconda_: have you installed the libsdl1.2-all package?
[03:30] <frans> so... how can I reinstall grub if XP messed it up?
[03:30] <Roconda_> Cas: I am installing :)
[03:30] <Cas> you at least need the -esd and -oss ones and I think -mixer too
[03:30] <Hobbsee> !grub > frans
[03:30] <rowanjl> So, has anyone else had trouble with Ubuntu not configuring X during setup?
[03:30] <FurryNemesis> how do I find out what chipset my bt 1020 wireless card uses?
[03:30] <burepe2> Can anyone help me with sharing on my network? I am using the "share folders" settings (correctly I think) but it ain't workins...
[03:31] <Roconda_> Cas: it doesnt work
[03:31] <Ro1> burepre2:you never told me it was over a netowek
[03:31] <Ro1> burepre2: i thought it was in the same hard drive partition
[03:31] <nickwebcouk> right folks,
[03:32] <nickwebcouk> very quick (and silly question for yas :P )
[03:32] <s-toned> rowanjl: have you tried vesa already?
[03:32] <Cas> Roconda_: sorry can help you any further, search the forums a bit and see if there are more dependencies your missing.
[03:32] <rowanjl> s-toned: the server? I'll give it a shot
[03:32] <FurryNemesis> how do I find out what chipset my bt 1020 wireless card uses?
[03:32] <burepe2> "(22:17:08) burepe2: I can't get my network to share files. Can someone help me?"
[03:32] <Cas> rowanjl: do you have an xorg.conf at all?
[03:32] <Roconda_> ok, Cas thx for the help
[03:32] <nickwebcouk> i just hooked up my ipod mini to ubuntu, and im using Rythmbox to browse the files
[03:32] <Cas> Roconda_: np, hope you can fix it
[03:32] <nickwebcouk> i wanna tranfser the files to my pc
[03:33] <nickwebcouk> but the song names arnt being transfered
[03:33] <nickwebcouk> theyre using apples default 4 letter random name..
[03:33] <nickwebcouk> is there any way to transfer them accross using the filenames?
[03:33] <thoreauputic> darkowl: I just tried it with spaced filenames and it worked fine here - don't know what the problem is, sorry
[03:33] <rowanjl> s-toned: thank you... so the ati server is risky at best?
[03:33] <nickwebcouk> cause id3 tags arnt being sent accross with the files
[03:34] <thoreauputic> darkowl: for example :  $ locate $(ls music/ | grep -i Alexa)
[03:34] <thoreauputic> /home/peter/music/Alexa Still
[03:34] <frans> Is the AMD64 image best for me if I have an AMD64, or should I just use i386? I've heard some rumors about it..
[03:34] <rowanjl> Ahh, xchat...
[03:35] <newton10471> hi, i'm trying to get ubuntu v5.x sshd to work, but it seems like i'm being firewalled out when i try to connect to the ubuntu machine remotely - i can't even ping him although i'm sure we're on the same (192.xxx) network - everything works fine from the ubuntu machine itself (ping, ssh logins) - is there something beyond iptables in ubuntu that won't let me in?  i used firestarter to turn iptables off, and put ALL: ALL in my hosts.allow file
[03:35] <Ng> frans: the only downside of the amd64 version really is browser plugins and multimedia codecs. if flash and windows media formats aren't important to you then it's fine
[03:35] <mjr> frans, basically, the i386 image is better if you want easy access to some proprietary software. Otherwise, amd64 is better.
[03:35] <rowanjl> Well, after 4 hours of re-installing I'm glad to have Ubuntu working again
[03:36] <frans> what about running wine and some games in wine?
[03:36] <mjr> it will also be less effort to get a working wine on i386
[03:36] <burepe2> My windows comp doesn't see my ubuntu comp over the network. Lil' help?
[03:37] <Lynoure> burepe2: How should it see it?
[03:37] <Lynoure> burepe2: I mean, how do you want MSwindows to access your ubuntu computer?
[03:37] <burepe2> Lynoure: I want to share files. I can't
[03:37] <burepe2> and vice versa
[03:38] <Lynoure> burepe2: Share in what way? If in the windows way, that means installing samba server on your ubuntu
[03:38] <Cas> burepe2: do you have an firewall installed on your windows pc?
[03:38] <Lynoure> I think
[03:38] <burepe2> I have done this so many times after installs and every time it is annoying
[03:38] <burepe2> no
[03:38] <burepe2> my last ubuntu install was working
[03:38] <Jungle> hello to everybody
[03:39] <Cas> burepe2: you'll should see your windows pc in your places->network servers by default.
[03:39] <Lynoure> Cas: I think burepe2 said the windows couldn't see ubuntu, not the other way around
[03:40] <Jungle> do you know if I can upgrade my kubuntu 5.0 to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake?
[03:40] <Lynoure> Cas: which is how things are by default, I think.
[03:40] <Jungle> without format my hard drive?
[03:40] <possie> anyone that has a clue how to debug the installation of a firefox extension? cause i'm only getting an error saying "Because: cancelled"
[03:40] <rambo3> Jungle you mean 5.04
[03:41] <rambo3> if its brezzy ou can upgrade kubuntu and then install ubuntu-desktop , and  if you wish uninstall kubuntu-desktop
[03:41] <Jungle> yes rambo sorry
[03:42] <burepe2> Cas Lynoure I can see the windows comp in that location, but from the windows comp when I enter the ubuntu comp's address (\\pikapika\) it asks me for a password and username
[03:42] <rambo3> Jungle just dist-upgrade first then install ubuntu-desktop
[03:42] <Jungle> so rambo what do u advise to do?
[03:42] <Jungle> I have 30 Gbytes of Music and I wouldn't like to lose that
[03:42] <rambo3> !tell Jungle about upgrade
[03:42] <Cas> burepe2: you'll need to edit smb.conf if you want anonymous access
[03:43] <burepe2> Cas do I edit in it
[03:43] <rambo3> Jungle its just clean upgrade , and i think command line dist-upgrade is safest.
[03:43] <Cas> !tell burepe2 about samba
[03:43] <burepe2> Cas what is the location of the file?
[03:43] <USER018348> CIAO
[03:43] <burepe2> Cas, I never get anywhere with thoes faqs
[03:44] <Cas> burepe2: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[03:44] <LiquidNerd_work> damn.. kdm died in edgy on my home system
[03:44] <burepe2> What setting do I have to change to make it anonmys
[03:44] <Tentious> I'm looking for a macro program like actool. Any similars or anyone know how to get it working with cedega?
[03:44] <rambo3> LiquidNerd_work #ubuntu+1
[03:44] <Cas> burepe2: but I can't tell you what to change, never wanted anonymous access trough samba
[03:44] <LiquidNerd_work> +1?
[03:45] <USER018348> BETA
[03:45] <burepe2> Ok thanks
[03:45] <Cas> burepe2: man smb.conf could help you maybe
[03:45] <Sci-freak> Hi
[03:45] <burepe2> !samba
[03:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[03:46] <Sci-freak> I was wondering if there was a way for bash to emulate key-presses
[03:46] <sss> hey guys,anyone had used R?
[03:46] <sss> or r-base
[03:46] <h3sp4wn> Sci-freak: Look into using expect maybe
[03:46] <LiquidNerd_work> sss: depending on the word I'm typing
[03:47] <sss> liquidneerd ,wut?
[03:47] <Sci-freak> Thanks, h3sp4wn
[03:47] <LiquidNerd_work> For instance.. the word; "word" has an R in it
[03:47] <Tentious> sss: are you talking case-sensitive?
[03:48] <Tentious> =)
[03:48] <sss> R is a stat programn
[03:48] <sss> do u know r-base?
[03:48] <LiquidNerd_work> hehe
[03:48] <sss> anybody installed it?
[03:48] <LiquidNerd_work> we're so clever
[03:49] <Tentious> I'm looking for a macro program like actool. Any similars or anyone know how to get it working with cedega or wine?
[03:50] <Tentious> actool basically emulates mouse/keyboard movements and entry.
[03:51] <sss> tentious,do u no how can i find the executable file which i installed right now?
[03:51] <Tentious> sss: ?
[03:52] <sss> i installed r-base ,but i cant find the executable file
[03:52] <Tentious> sss: you can use the command locate and find any file..
[03:52] <Tmob> is mplayer not supported in ubuntu??
[03:52] <Tmob> i can't find it in apt-cache search
[03:52] <Tentious> sss: use "sudo updatedb" to update the locate database
[03:53] <Sci-freak> find /* r |grep r-base
[03:53] <Exussum> Hey all - why doent my internet work with the newest kernal - yet works fine with the old one
[03:53] <Sci-freak> Uh
[03:53] <Sci-freak> find /* |grep r-base
[03:53] <Sci-freak> Sorry
[03:53] <sss> but how can i know it is a executable file?
[03:53] <Tentious> or you can use grep =)
[03:53] <donkeyboy> how do i make rhythmbox look for a folder of music on a samba share on the network? or do i have to have it mounted first?
[03:53] <Sci-freak> ls <whatever>
[03:53] <neopsyche> what is the best ubuntu distro for newbies?
[03:53] <void^> sss: what happens when you run R in a terminal?
[03:53] <Tmob> neopsyche, xubuntu
[03:53] <pablozz> hi all
[03:53] <Tentious> sss: "ll -a"
[03:54] <neopsyche> nubuntu/ kubuntu/ ubutnu/ edubuntu?
[03:54] <cycom> Is there a way to use smbclient to dump the output of dd on a samba share?
[03:54] <Mastastealth> ubuntu? :P its the most "supported", or common, whatever ;)
[03:54] <sss> how to run R in terminal?
[03:54] <Tentious> sss: do that in the directory the file is in.
[03:54] <Sci-freak> Ubuntu!
[03:54] <Sci-freak> gnome not KDE :(
[03:54] <void^> sss: open a terminal, type the letter R, hit return
[03:54] <Tentious> ^^ =) hehe
[03:54] <Sci-freak> Has anyone ever used KBDE?
[03:55] <Sci-freak> It's supposed to emulate keystrokes
[03:55] <Sci-freak> But I haven't had any success
[03:55] <Tmob> why doesn't mplayer exist for ubuntu!!? thats very weird!
[03:55] <Sci-freak> It does, Tmob
[03:55] <Tmob> Sci-freak, hmm.. realy? can i see your sources.list?
[03:55] <Sci-freak> Open synaptic
[03:55] <Tmob> Sci-freak, i uncommented everything in the sources.list
[03:55] <Exussum> Hey all - any ideas why my internet doesnt work for kernel 2.6.15-25 but works fine with kernel 2.6.15-23
[03:55] <Sci-freak> Oh
[03:55] <burepe2> Tmob use source-o-matic
[03:55] <burepe2> !source-o-matic
[03:55] <sss> VOID,it works ,but ,no interface of R appeared
[03:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> mplayer is in multiverse
[03:56] <Sci-freak> Yeah
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> (or at least the parts which make it useable)
[03:56] <void^> sss: should it come with an interface?
[03:56] <Sci-freak> Have you set up your repositories?
[03:57] <danfg> i added "wine /home/user1/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/MailWasher Pro/MailWasher.exe" to Startup Programs in my Sessions dialog. The thing won't run. It runs every other way, but not on startup. where can i find a log of failures during session startup?
[03:57] <sss> void ,yea,it has an interface
[03:58] <Tmob> burepe2, hmm.. i see multiverse in my sources.list:
[03:58] <Tmob> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:58] <Tmob> isn't taht enough?
[03:58] <Tmob> to get mplayer that is..
[03:58] <yallaman> hm..i cant get jave to work in firefox..
[03:58] <Jinxed> Hi, simple question to the crowds, I just deleted /dev/zero ..... i know dumb .... how can i replace it again please
[03:58] <Sci-freak> Tmob, if it's not appearing still, you can grab it from the ubuntu website
[03:59] <Sci-freak> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/dapper/
[03:59] <void^> sss: screenshot on r-project.org doesn't imply a gui
[03:59] <der_daniel> is there a way k3b can automatically rename files with invalid file names for dvd-burning?
[03:59] <Tmob> Sci-freak, well i dont see multiverse on source-omatic
[03:59] <sss> so how can i operate it?
[03:59] <sss> void
[04:00] <nicoAMG> Hi!
[04:00] <cryptid> I WANT TO USE MY YAHOO ACCOUNT WITH WEBCAM IS THERE A SOFTWARE THAT WILL LET ME DO SO PLEASE HELP ME OUT
[04:00] <Sci-freak> Tmob, try http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[04:00] <Mastastealth> cryptid, plz turn off caps lock, and have you tried Kopete?
[04:00] <The_Guardian> to compile a .o file the correct syntax is g++ HelloWorld.o -o HelloWorld.exe right?
[04:00] <Sci-freak> It has a sample sources.list there
[04:00] <void^> sss: i take it back, you can use `R -g tk` or `R -g gnome`
[04:00] <burepe2> Anyone know the setting I have to change in samba.conf to make access anonomyous (no password)?
[04:01] <Jessehk> Where does gvim stores its colors directory in Ubuntu? I haven't been able to find it.
[04:01] <cryptid> Mastastealth, k i will give it a try i never herd of that software, does it have the features that i need?
[04:01] <der_daniel> is there a way k3b can automatically rename files with invalid file names for dvd-burning?
[04:01] <jory> Hi everyone. I have a performance issue with radeon 9600 mobile @ fglrx (up2date) and Xgl - resizing windowses in gnome is extremely slow. Why?
[04:02] <Mastastealth> cryptid: Kopete, is like GAIM, except I've heard they have some webcam support
[04:02] <Mastastealth> and its KDE based
[04:02] <Feral_Kid> Any one around to help with a quick X issue? If I log in as root, the resolution remains correct for me 1400x900, but when I look into my regular user account, the resolution changes to lesser resolution... Where would I look to resolve that?
[04:02] <danfg> i've a program failing session startup. is there a log where i can see what went wrong?
[04:03] <sss> void ,the same thing
[04:03] <LiquidNerd_work> Feral_Kid: press CTRL ALT +
[04:03] <LiquidNerd_work> and the + on the num pad
[04:03] <void^> sss: with "R -g tk" i get an extra window here.
[04:03] <Ro1> i'm trying to use apache...i can get it to work localy...but my port 80 is "stealthed", how do i open it
[04:04] <Tmob> Sci-freak, that copy paste worked great! thanks
[04:04] <Sci-freak> Okay, man.
[04:04] <Feral_Kid> LiquidNerd_work> Tried that, and nothing...
[04:04] <jory> Anyone any ideas regarding my problem?
[04:05] <asand> anyone installed openoffice.org on Ubuntu 6.06. I've had some trouble with it...
[04:05] <sss> void ,yea ,i got too,but ,it's not the programn window
[04:05] <Ro1> mine was automatically isntalled
[04:05] <jory> Everything else is smooth and OK, only windows resizing is so weirdly slow.
[04:05] <rixth> I don't want to learn Java eh? Is it a dying language?
[04:06] <der_daniel> is there a way k3b can automatically rename files with invalid file names for dvd-burning?
[04:06] <Paladine> heya kalo
[04:06] <void^> sss: well, what else is it supposed to look like? R is a language for statistical computing.
[04:07] <sss> void ,do u know how to use it?ive never used it ,this is my first time
[04:07] <danfg> i want to remove gaim and it asks me to remove ubuntu-desktop, what's that about?
[04:07] <hanspeter> hi there! is there a known fix for the libc6 issue in edgy?
[04:07] <Sci-freak> It's best just to leave gaim installed, danfg
[04:07] <Jeruvy> that's a serious dependancy :)
[04:08] <void^> sss: read the manual? looks like it's quite powerful, but it will certainly require some learning and effort to be used effectively.
[04:08] <Sci-freak> Along with everything that comes with ubuntu
[04:08] <wheelswitch> Hello all, i am running 6.06 and im having a little trouble with my video brightness, it is WAY off, i can make it look better by fiddleing with the setings in whichever media player im using however i cant get it quite right.  This brigness issue is for movies/videos only, photos etc look fine on the screen.  Any ideas?
[04:08] <asand> when i try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org it reports some broken packages. I've tried to find the broken one and it seems to be openoffice.org-core-experimental
[04:08] <danfg> Sci-freak: i want to install gaim 2.0 beta by hand, so i should leave the old gaim package there?
[04:08] <Sci-freak> Yes
[04:08] <Sci-freak> Uh, hang on
[04:09] <hanspeter> everything program just throws out malloc errors...
[04:09] <pablozz> i heave one ques
[04:09] <pablozz> ??
[04:09] <sss> void ,yea ,i know ,id like to study it ,in order to do statistic work in linux
[04:09] <asand> it has no installation candidate
[04:09] <myavuzselim> how can I add file types to ubuntu (or is it gnome?). It sees my "file.pod" file as plain text document, I want to define a filetype 'pod file'.
[04:09] <pablozz> how I can add win-fonts to kterminal ??
[04:09] <sss> void ,do u know how to start it ?from terminal?
[04:09] <Sci-freak> Try: sudo dpkg --force-all -i <package>
[04:10] <Sci-freak> That's how I did it
[04:10] <sss> or somewhere else?
[04:10] <void^> sss: .. start.. what?
[04:10] <danfg> Sci-freak: cool, i'll try that :)
[04:10] <Sci-freak> It'll overwrite some stuff, but I haven't had any trouble
[04:10] <Sci-freak> It'll ask you to update from 2.0.0beta3 to the old package too
[04:10] <sss> void ,start the R programn
[04:10] <Sci-freak> But you can lock the version in synaptic
[04:11] <danfg> hmm not sure i follow...
[04:11] <Sci-freak> Well, it might ask you to update gaim after you install 2.0.0
[04:11] <void^> sss: look.. you have started it when you ran R, or R -g tk. that is R. it doesn't have a colourful interface. it's a language. you have to program it, write scripts.
[04:11] <Sci-freak> But don't
[04:11] <danfg> Sci-freak: but isn't that what i want?
[04:11] <Sci-freak> Well, no
[04:12] <Sci-freak> The system thinks that you've just installed an older version
[04:12] <Sci-freak> Since it doesn't recognise 2.0.0
[04:12] <zoor_> where can I find my .login script? I got help with a problem I had on the ub
[04:12] <danfg> ah
[04:12] <zoor_> where can I find my .login script? I got help with a problem I had on the ubuntu forums but I cant figure out where my .login script is. *
[04:12] <Sci-freak> It shouldn't be a problem
[04:12] <sss> void ,write scripts in where? terminal ?or somewhere else?
[04:12] <wheelswitch> So does anyone have any ideas about the video colour/brightness/contrast being completely off when playing video files?
[04:12] <zoor_> (sorry for sending the message to fas)
[04:12] <FuelB> I get lots of datacorruption, random files getting errors.. Is that my harddisk that 's broken?
[04:13] <zoor_> fast*
[04:13] <zoor_> :D
[04:13] <void^> sss: some editor, or at the prompt R gives you. doesn't matter. read the manual.
[04:13] <gioacchino> hrllo
[04:13] <sss> VOID ,OK ,THANKU
[04:13] <gioacchino> hrllo
[04:13] <kristian> hello world:P
[04:13] <zoor_> no one?
[04:14] <kristian> snoops, are u here? :)
[04:14] <gioacchino> How to ma install floppy for ubuntu ?
[04:14] <snoops> hey kristian.. any luck?
[04:14] <r_m_r> Hello everyone
[04:14] <danfg> Sci-freak: all i find in the gaim site are rpm files, where did you get the dpkg file?
[04:14] <Sci-freak> Oh
[04:14] <Sci-freak> Use alien
[04:14] <Sci-freak> Download the rpm
[04:15] <Sci-freak> Then do alien <file>
[04:15] <Sci-freak> And it'll convert it to a deb
[04:15] <asand> ?
[04:15] <cryptid> i need a software to chat using my web cam using my yahoo account please help me out
[04:15] <cryptid> !chat
[04:15] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[04:15] <gioacchino> How to ma install floppy for ubuntu ?
[04:15] <zoor_> !.login
[04:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about .login
[04:15] <Sci-freak> It should be on synaptic
[04:16] <Sci-freak> :D
[04:16] <zoor_> !login
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about login
[04:16] <zoor_> !script
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about script
[04:16] <Sci-freak> What're you trying to do, zoor_?
[04:17] <_absolution_> why am I always getting "failed to open file" when I'm trying something
[04:17] <zoor_> Sci-freak, really long story short --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1174891#post1174891  I'm trying to figure out where my .login script is located on my ubuntu system
[04:17] <Gambaroni> !synaptics
[04:17] <ubotu> For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowTo
[04:17] <kristian> snoops, no, I had to work for my dad... :P so nothing happend..:P
[04:17] <Lynoure> zoor_: What do you mean by .login script? :)
[04:17] <Paladine> hehe my son is 6 months old and it just struck me that he will probably never use an audio casette, a vinyl LP, vhs technology -or- a floppy disk
[04:18] <zoor_> Lynoure, Look at the URL I wrote. The last comment :)
[04:18] <Jeruvy> Pal: he may never use stone tools either ;)
[04:18] <jory> Paladine: he will also most probably never use a casual CD-R disc or even cable networking ;)
[04:18] <Lynoure> zoor_: your own . files are usually at ~/  (under your home directory)
[04:18] <Sci-freak> You want a script that'll run on login?
[04:19] <Paladine> well he will use cabl networking, cos I just rewired the home network last week hehehe
[04:19] <zoor_> Sci-freak, thats right. I was suppose to add a line to that specific .login script. But I totally confused :D
[04:19] <jory> Pal: some time will pass and things may change ;)
[04:20] <Lynoure> zoor_: A summary would have worked. That'd be .bashrc but better place for that is under ./kde/Autostart
[04:20] <Paladine> well I have a 9dB internal wifi antenna too hehehe
[04:20] <danfg> zoor_: try using System->Preferences->Sessions, Startup Programs tab
[04:20] <zoor_> Lynoure, yeah I know. However I thought I was suppose to have my own login script that would runt automaticly at boot up? But I couldn't find one looking like a login script
[04:20] <Lynoure> zoor_: xmodmap does you nada outside x!
[04:20] <zoor_> Lynoure, thanks :)
[04:21] <jory> Pal: u c.. and I'd bet that in five years cables gonna disappear almost entirely ;)
[04:21] <zoor_> Lynoure, I'm only under x while inside the computer so I guess I'm in the clear?
[04:21] <myavuzselim> Where is the gnome preference applet to edit the file types? Gnome documentation says:  Applications->Desktop Preferences->Advanced->File types and programs, but it does not exist in dapper. Does anyone know the name of the executable?
[04:22] <Lynoure> zoor_: hmm, lost me there. Or are you trying to add some other command than xmodmap?
[04:22] <Paladine> when I start teaching him about music I expect he will reply "Pink who?"
[04:22] <jory> question > How can I write in Russian or Ukrainian in Xgl/compiz if I use xmodmap.pl now? Can I change it in the fly?
[04:22] <finalbeta> Is their a place to report language faults in ubuntu?
[04:22] <Lynoure> zoor_: And oops, sorry, I got confused between kubuntu and ubuntu again. I should prolly leave this channel... happens too often to me
[04:22] <jory> on-the-fly*
[04:22] <zoor_> Lynoure, I'm suppose to write a line like this " xmodmap ~/.xmodmap-`uname -n " in my .login file :)
[04:23] <Lynoure> zoor_: what danfg said is better advice than mine
[04:23] <jory> Pal: Never know, retro waves come back all the time ;)
[04:23] <zoor_> Lynoure, No worries... its better to help even if we're not always right. Thank you anyway. :)
[04:24] <Lynoure> zoor_: I'm having a major brainlag day in general today...
[04:24] <jory> Lyn: me 2. And I had like 3 hours sleep 2day.
[04:24] <cold_> Does anyone have a problem with vlc, when playing Dvds it keeps looping back to the menu ?
[04:25] <zoor_> Lynoure, then we're two then :D
[04:25] <aliss> ola
[04:25] <Lynoure> jory: I've slept plenty, just working two jobs this week (and probably the next, too)
[04:25] <zoor_> Thanks danfg, exaclty what I was looking for :)
[04:26] <danfg> zoor_: cool :)
[04:26] <Jinxed>  hi to all, have just done a real stupid thing, deleted a file in /dev/ called zero and need to replace or undelete it, how would i go about this please
[04:27] <Jinxed>  hi to all, have just done a real stupid thing, deleted a file in /dev/ called zero and need to replace or undelete it, how would i go about this please
[04:27] <Paladine> hehe I used to work for Trebor Bassetts ;)
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> Jinxed: Just reboot and it will be back
[04:29] <void^> Jinxed: `mknod zero c 1 5`, but a reboot should fix it with udev
[04:29] <sss> void ,i know the problem
[04:29] <_Indy_> Hello. I am using Ubuntu 6.06 with Gnome. I have a question. How do I set
[04:29] <_Indy_> python scripts to run by double-clicking them? I did the following:
[04:29] <_Indy_> 1) Put a shebang line #!/usr/bin/env python
[04:29] <_Indy_> 2) Made them executable (chmod +x)
[04:29] <_Indy_> But still, they don't run when I double click them. Maybe, should I try to change the Open With? I made them Open With python, but nothing happened. I made them Open With terminal, but nothing happened. I even made them Open With xterm -e python but nothing happened. Can you help me please?
[04:30] <_Indy_> Thank you a lot in advance.
[04:30] <Jinxed> ok, will try that, hope to see you folks on the other side
[04:30] <sss> i didnt download the gui interface
[04:31] <imc_> I've tried man grep but can't seem to get it: i I do cat testing.txt | grep machine I get the printout: Machine, but if I do  grep -ei "machine" -f testing.txt I get nothing - what's wrong with my syntax?
[04:31] <Bassetts> Paladine: cool
[04:31] <Bassetts> Paladine: my last name is liquorish =P where the nick comes from heh
[04:31] <Paladine> hehehe
[04:31] <Paladine> they in trouble at the moment
[04:31] <Bassetts> how cme
[04:31] <Bassetts> come*
[04:31] <Paladine> thy are owned by cadbury's schewpps
[04:31] <void^> imc_: -f is "Obtain patterns from FILE"
[04:32] <kalosaurusre1> grep -h -I *term* will search in a text file
[04:32] <imc_> OH!
[04:32] <imc_> I see, THANK YOU
[04:32] <Bassetts> yeh =( i shall carry on the name! =)
[04:32] <Paladine> and they just had to recall all their Cadbury's Dairy Milk
[04:32] <TheNewB> hello im trying to : sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales but it just dont wanto
[04:32] <Bassetts> Paladine: you from UK?
[04:32] <TheNewB> any one hawe the same prob?
[04:32] <gioacchino> Download these floppy images from [WWW]  http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/pre-rc2/floppy/ ( [WWW]  http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-i386/rc2/images/floppy/ ):
[04:32] <gioacchino> thelink in the site are broken
[04:32] <trappist> Anyone have trouble booting dapper as a vmware guest?  I gues "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, boothing the kernel." and nothing else.
[04:32] <Paladine> Bassetts, yeah
[04:32] <TheNewB> anyone :o
[04:32] <Bassetts> cool Paladine, me too =)
[04:32] <gioacchino> what` is the correct link ?
[04:33] <Jinxed> tx, this is jinxed, going into the shady side of the moon, good luck and good bey ... rebooting
[04:33] <Paladine> Bassetts, north west here, Lancaster
[04:34] <Exussum> Hey all - im just wondering if any one knows why i cannot connect to the internet from kernel 2.6.15-25 but i can from kernel 2.6.15-23
[04:34] <Bassetts> Paladine: east midlands, nottingham
[04:35] <Paladine> oooo nottingham, 8 females for every guy last time I was there
[04:35] <Ng> Bassetts: Paladine: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[04:35] <Ro1> nice
[04:35] <Paladine> my favourite demographic
[04:35] <Bassetts> sorry Ng =(
[04:35] <Paladine> sorry NG
[04:35] <Bassetts> feel like a told off kid now heh
[04:35] <danfg> Sci-freak: i downloaded the src.rpm of Gaim 2.0, since i couldn't find any rpm for ubuntu, should i try to create an ubuntu-specific rpm based on the src.rpm?
[04:36] <Ng> danfg: ubuntu doesn't use RPMs, it uses DEBs
[04:36] <danfg> Sci-freak: and then alien-ate it?
[04:36] <Daniel0> hey, what program can i use for rar files?
[04:36] <Sci-freak> Have you installed alien?
[04:36] <danfg> Sci-freak: yep
[04:36] <Sci-freak> Just get the rpm
[04:36] <Sci-freak> and alien it
[04:36] <MojoWork> hi. anyone know if there's vim7 packages for dapper?
[04:36] <MojoWork> maybe in backports?
[04:36] <coops2> Daniel0: Unrar?
[04:36] <danfg> Sci-freak: which one? i got the src.rpm
[04:36] <MojoWork> they're in sid now
[04:36] <Sci-freak> I'll check what I used
[04:36] <Ng> Daniel0: rar or unrar in multiverse
[04:37] <Daniel0> ok thanks
[04:37] <Sci-freak> I just used gaim-2.0.0-0.beta3.fc5.i386.rpm
[04:37] <Kazukisan> how do you extract a 1.2gig zip file from command line since archive wont open it because its too big. ...
[04:37] <danfg> Ng: yeah, Sci-freak is telling me to do some wierd voodoo hacking and create deb from an rpm
[04:37] <Sci-freak> :D
[04:37] <cryptid> !webcam
[04:37] <Ng> danfg: that's a terrible idea
[04:37] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:37] <Sci-freak> I have had no problems.
[04:38] <Paladine> hehe webcam is easy if your cam is supported
[04:38] <coops2> I just updated my kernel and it (of course) broke my nvidia drivers... How do i make it compile/find a new nvidia kernel module?
[04:38] <Ng> danfg: http://people.ubuntu.com/~seb128/deb/
[04:38] <Paladine> unfortunately very few are
[04:38] <Ng> danfg: you should just need the gaim and gaim-data ones for i386
[04:38] <danfg> Ng: i need gaim 2.0
[04:38] <danfg> oh no, Brazil x Ghana game will start in a few minutes, i have to go!
[04:38] <Ng> danfg: read the version number more closely
[04:39] <Kazukisan> Coops2: search the package manager maybe ? for nividia
[04:39] <danfg> Ng: i will, thanks, gtg!
[04:39] <Cas> Kazukisan: unzip file.zip
[04:39] <gioacchino>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/WithFloppies
[04:39] <Kazukisan> cas: thanks
[04:39] <gioacchino> the link of img floppy are broke
[04:39] <gioacchino> you know the corect link ?
[04:39] <Sci-freak> Has anyone had experience with KBDE?
[04:39] <Ng> danfg: it's 2.0beta3, which is the most recent release. 2.0 is not out yet
[04:39] <coops2> Kazukisan: The driver is there and already installed. Problem is i updated kernel. And the nvidia driver didn't get that
[04:40] <Sci-freak> I came here for help myself
[04:40] <Kazukisan> coops2: maybe try reinstalling
[04:40] <Sci-freak> But it seems I've been sucked in
[04:40] <Sci-freak> :D
[04:40] <MojoWork> hmph. there is no dapper-backports yet, eh?
[04:40] <Cas> coops2: be sure you (re)install the restricted drivers an nvidia-glx again
[04:40] <Kazukisan> coops2: im not to sure about nvidia since i use ati, but if you see the driver in the package manager i would think that a reinstall might fix it
[04:40] <iBrood> I'm a PCBSD user mainly because of the simple installation system. How easy it it to install and remove software in ubuntu for a new user?
[04:41] <coops2> cas and Kazukisan I am trying right now. I will let you know
[04:41] <Sci-freak> iBrood, you have a package manager with about 19000 things to install on your desktop
[04:41] <MojoWork> nm, i found some stuff with google
[04:41] <Ng> MojoWork: there isn't really much to backport yet
[04:41] <iBrood> sounds cool, what about drivers, etc. how does one handle them
[04:42] <gayrockie> Hello, all.  Linux newbie having some issues here...  appreciate any help you can give.
[04:42] <kalosaurusrex> gayrockie--just ask your question?
[04:42] <Sci-freak> Well, a lot of hardware comes supported when you install ubuntu
[04:42] <Sci-freak> But the package manager has some drivers on it
[04:43] <gayrockie> Sure.  Okay, when I go to shut ubuntu (Dapper Dan) down, it gives me the option to log off, switch user, or "hybernate" (which actually just activates the screen saver), but not to power down...
[04:43] <MojoWork> Ng: yeah, sounds like once there is, they'll put vim7 in it
[04:43] <Cas> coops2: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` nvidia-glx
[04:43] <Exussum> Hey all - im just wondering if any one knows why i cannot connect to the internet from kernel 2.6.15-25 but i can from kernel 2.6.15-23
[04:43] <Exussum> any ideas ?
[04:44] <gayrockie> also, after a hard-reboot (I finally just shut the machine down by hand last night), it now only allows 640x480 resolution.
[04:44] <kalosaurusrex> I had a problem with the 2.6.15-25 nvidia drivers after an upgrade..thinking -25 has some issues...but I could be wrong.
[04:44] <Cas> Exussum: does your nic work at all with?
[04:44] <trappist> Exussum: sounds like the kind of thing that needs to be troubleshot, including such information as what happens when you try to connect
[04:44] <Exussum> gayrockie - open up the terminal and type "sudo shutdown -h now"
[04:44] <Paladine> my nvidia drivers love me
[04:44] <Paladine> but I never had to upgrade
[04:44] <Exussum> Cas - no - it wont ping my router
[04:44] <gayrockie> okay, trying that...  be back.
[04:45] <Paladine> since my first kernel was .25 hehe
[04:45] <coops2> Hmm it isn't there. Apparently nvidia is to slow for ubuntu....
[04:45] <Cas> Exussum: what nic do you have?
[04:45] <Exussum> onboard nforce 430
[04:45] <coops2> hmm wait I think i found et
[04:45] <coops2> it
[04:45] <Exussum> i had to recomiple forcedeth.ko last tome for it to work - now its not working at all
[04:46] <Paladine> Exussum, you checked "route" to make sure you have a gateway setup?
[04:46] <Paladine> you tried pinging localhost?
[04:46] <Exussum> no - brb ill try that then
[04:47] <Cas> Exussum: isn't that a restricted driver aswell?
[04:47] <gayrockie> Exussum, that did shut it down.  Machine is rebooting now.
[04:47] <Exussum> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186848&page=2  << thats really all i know about the problem
[04:47] <Exussum> brb ill try that
[04:47] <The_Oatman> Hello, I am wondering if anyone can help me figure out why my sound stopped working all of a sudden. I suspect some packages I installed with synaptic while trying to get a parallel port scanner to work were involved...
[04:47] <coops2> Cool It works now. Thanks.
[04:48] <robhu_> How can I change the available screen resolutions? I'm running the latest Ubuntu inside VMWare (using the Xorg 7 gfx driver)... I thought it might be xorgconfig or something but thats not there :(
[04:48] <Paladine> I have nforce ethernet and it isn't causing me any issues
[04:49] <kalosaurusrex> The_Oatman:  sorry I have no idea about your problem..although I am curious what scanner you where trying to setup..
[04:49] <Cas> Exussum: did you bould that module allready with your last kernel, cause you need to do that every time when you update your kernel
[04:50] <robertj> can anyone recommend a good captive portal package?
[04:50] <bina> Hi, i have /dev/hdb1 mounting to /Downloads, /Downloads is 755 and i own it and am in its group.  I still can't write to the drive though.  I tried putting uid=1000 in the fstab options but that was a bad option aparrently
[04:50] <The_Oatman> kalosaurusrex: I was trying to set up a HP 3200C (rebadged Umax)
[04:50] <bina> the drives ext3
[04:51] <Cas> bina: what is the line in fstab?
[04:51] <bina> Cas: /dev/hdb1       /Downloads              ext3    defaults,user   0       1
[04:52] <Cas> bina: you don't need user because that's only if you want a user to mount it, it should work tough
[04:53] <gayrockie> Thanks to Exussum, that manual (terminal) shutdown seems to have fixed the screen resolution problem.  However, does anyone know why I don't have a "shutdown" or equivilant button when I hit the shutdown menu (in the upper right corner, the power button)?
[04:53] <bina> Cas: ok. hmm
[04:53] <Cas> bina: no errors if you mount it?
[04:53] <bina> Cas: ill try remounting it see what happens
[04:53] <bina> Cas: no, only with that uid option
[04:54] <test001> Hi, does anyone solved the problems of "waiting for boot?"
[04:54] <mahatm1> hello
[04:55] <mahatm1> I have a Brother MFC-7420 printer, using ubuntu dapper; it's only printing out a blank page
[04:55] <mahatm1> is this printer not supported with free software?
[04:55] <MojoWork> buh-bye
[04:55] <kalosaurusrex> mahatm1:  go to http://linuxprinting.org
[04:56] <mahatm1> kalosaurusrex: yeah, didn't find it in the list
[04:56] <kalosaurusrex> mathat: ahh sorry :/
[04:56] <bina> Cas: its odd, "/dev/hdb1 on /Downloads type ext3 (rw)" is whatwhat "mount -v /Downloads" says
[04:57] <kalosaurusrex> mahatm: so it prints but only blank pages..I don't know anything about brother (hp guy here) but you could look in the cups log..
[04:57] <kalosaurusrex> might give you some idea perhaps.
[04:57] <Cas> bina: can root write in it? `sudo touch /Downloads/file`
[04:57] <bina> Cas: yeah
[04:58] <bina> i just 777 the dir too just to check :)
[04:58] <mahatm1> kalosaurusrex: yeah, but nothing relevant
[04:58] <__mikem> HEy, you will never guess what I found out yesterday
[04:58] <bina> whats that?
[04:58] <__mikem> My copy of vmware that my brother got me it turns out, he bootleged it
[04:58] <kalosaurusrex> mahat:  sorry dude..wish I could help.  sounds like the wrong ppd file though.
[04:59] <gayrockie> mahatm: I don't know for sure, but when I had an old brother printer, it would emulate an HP.  You might try using a standard HP driver and see what happens...
[04:59] <test001> Need help, u
 HEy, you will never guess what I found out yesterday
[04:59] <mahatm1> gayrockie: aiight, I'll try
[04:59] <test001> u
 HEy, you will never guess what I found out yesterday
[04:59] <__mikem> test001 why are you doing that
[05:00] <test001> sorry, i press wrong button,,sorry for that
[05:00] <__mikem> IF I didn't know better Id say you are trying to clone me
[05:00] <bina> __mikem: hmm.  vmware is an emulator isnt it? have you tried qemu?
[05:01] <Cas> __mikem: vmware player is free
[05:01] <__mikem> bina, I am just kind of worried because I have already gotten tech support from them, and had to provide the illigit serial number
[05:01] <gayrockie> so, does anyone know why my shutdown menu doesn't have the shutdown command as an option (or restart for that matter)...  or where I might find that config?
[05:01] <Cas> bina: vmware is not an emulator, it's a virtual machine
[05:01] <__mikem> Cas, I know, I am on the workstation version
[05:01] <OneSeventeen> can I mount novell shared drives in Ubuntu?
[05:01] <bina> __mikem: oh right :S
[05:01] <Cas> bina: any luck with 777?
[05:01] <kristian> well snoops, now I have made a thread on the ubuntuforum.org. May I drop the URL here?
[05:01] <ardchoille> gayrockie: gnome or KDE?
[05:02] <snedar> hi! I've tried to setup Xgl with the instructions from the wiki, but now I can't login into X anymore. GDM does start up, but when I login (either through Xgl or the normal Gnome session), it works for a few seconds and then returns to GDM. any ideas on how I can find the error?
[05:02] <mahatm1> gayrockie: any HP printer in particular: doesn't seem to be a generic one
[05:02] <bina> Cas: oh right :)
[05:02] <__mikem> Cas, is he chmod 777'ing files, thats not really safe
[05:02] <bina> Cas: nope, nowt :)
[05:02] <test001> I got a problems, ubuntu was hanging at the "waiting for root filesystem", anyone know how to solve this problems? thanks!
[05:02] <gayrockie> ardchoille: as far as I know, gnome.  (ubuntu Dapper Dan, what it came with)
[05:02] <kalosaurusrex> snedar if you drop to another terminal and do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart what's the error?
[05:02] <Cas> __mikem: it's a directory and it's only for testing purposes
[05:02] <__mikem> oh, ok
[05:02] <kalosaurusrex> or just startx.  wha'ever
[05:02] <bina> __mikem: I am chmoding a /Downloads folder to 777 to see whether itll make a difference writing to it
[05:02] <gayrockie> mahatm1 try an early laserjet - 2 or 4...  worst that will happen is your printer will print garbage.
[05:03] <__mikem> bina it only will if you actually own the dirrectory
[05:03] <bina> __mikem, atm I cant work out why i cant write to a mounted drive without being su
[05:03] <ne78> Does ubuntu unstable includes Xorg 7.1 ?
[05:03] <__mikem> bina, you DON'T own the dirrectory thats why
[05:03] <kalosaurusrex> mahat what brother model again?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> ne78: Not yet
[05:03] <snedar> kalosaurusrex: then I don't get any errors either, I just can't be logged in for more than 3 seconds
[05:03] <Exussum> In the newer kernel - it doesnt even recognise that i have a ethernet port
[05:03] <mahatm1> MFC-7420
[05:04] <ne78> h3sp4wn: thanks
[05:04] <Exussum> Which is probably the reason i cannot connect - any ideas on how to fix ?
[05:04] <__mikem> go superuser, chown <your user name> Downloads
[05:04] <bina> __mikem: crazy :) I could have sworn I did it before, but its working now :)  thanks
[05:04] <__mikem> any time.
[05:04] <bina> Cas: thanks to you too :)
[05:05] <Cas> bina: you can umount the drive and see if you can write there then, if not, you can't have the permissions right.
[05:05] <bina> Cas: didnt have the permissions i thought i did
[05:05] <__mikem> Cas, how much of that website did you get done reading
[05:05] <Cas> hehe, np happens to the best
[05:05] <kalosaurusrex> mahat: I don't know anything about the brother printers...but I'm thinking try something like the officejet 6110ish.
[05:05] <Cas> __mikem: website?
[05:05] <kalosaurusrex> mahat: I'm biased...*hp hp hp* hint hint* ;)
[05:06] <__mikem> Sorry, I refered someone with your screen name to a website last night
[05:06] <kristian> Can someone help me with a problem with my graphic card? Take a look please :) ----> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1187344#post1187344
[05:07] <Cas> __mikem: could be me, which website?
[05:07] <__mikem> www.rinkworks.com/stupid
[05:07] <kalosaurusrex> mahat: guessing the ppd file is rather problematic...
[05:07] <Cas> __mikem: neh, guess it was another guy, he used my nick but changes it to cassapodia or something like that, he was in #ubuntu-de
[05:07] <Exussum> Hey guys - any idea why the newest kernel Wont pick up my ethernet card ?
[05:08] <peritus> how do i change the default text editor for say, .c files?
[05:08] <Cas> peritus: right click->properties->open with
[05:08] <edulix> hi!
[05:08] <__mikem> Cas, ok
[05:08] <edulix> anyone using fuse in ubuntu?
[05:08] <mahatm1> kalosaurusrex: nope; just a blank page;)
[05:08] <__mikem> never even heard of "fuse"
[05:08] <edulix> I get permission denied when using fuse related things
[05:08] <kalosaurusrex> mahat: maybe then try just like the deskjet 970 or something.
[05:09] <Exussum> Hey guys - any idea why the newest kernel Wont pick up my ethernet card ?
[05:09] <edulix> encfs ~/.encfs-crypt ~/.encfs
[05:09] <edulix> ups
[05:09] <Cas> Exussum: have you installed your restricted drivers? sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[05:09] <edulix> __mikem: http://fuse.sourceforge.net
[05:09] <peritus> Cas: i did, and then i choosed gVIM, but next time i try to open I open a .c-file, it is still using gedit
[05:09] <Cas> Exussum: eehm, thats the command if you're in your buggy kernel btw
[05:09] <Exussum> cas - dont i need access to the internet for that ?
[05:10] <__mikem> impressive
[05:10] <kristian> Well, the URL over is wrong...:P This is the right URL: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1187374#post1187374
[05:10] <mahatm1> kalosaurusrex: nope; just gives fault;)
[05:10] <crashzor> Exussum,  for apt-get you 8 out of the 10 times need internet yes
[05:10] <kalosaurusrex> mahat: eh sorry dude.  no clue then.  there are 1000's of ppd files..
[05:10] <mahatm1> kalosaurusrex: yeah, I see;), too bad, then
[05:10] <Cas> Exussum: yes you do need it, but you can install it with your other kernel, just exec the command, copy the line and install it with the -25 change
[05:11] <Exussum> so instead of uname -r i put the kernel name in ?
[05:12] <crashzor> Exussum, yes :)
[05:12] <Exussum> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.25-amd64-generic
[05:12] <Exussum> like that ?
[05:13] <Cas> Exussum: yup
[05:13] <Exussum> E: Couldn't find package linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15.25-amd64-generic
[05:13] <__mikem> Wow, when I have time to learn about implimenting filesystems, I am so going to download fuse, it has to be the coolest thing I have seen since vmware
[05:13] <Cas> __mikem: nice website tough :)
[05:14] <__mikem> Cas, thanks
[05:14] <crashzor> btw is there a bad point about running a 32 bit kernel on a 64 bit cpu ??????
[05:14] <Ng> Exussum: try -25, not .25
[05:14] <Ng> crashzor: amd64/emt64 chips are pretty much completely 32bit compatible
[05:14] <Blissex> crashzor: not much.
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> if i want to search a file's text i do "grep string filename" but how can i just type the contents of a file into the terminal?
[05:14] <__mikem> Darnit, I wanted to thank edulix for showing this thing to me
[05:14] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to see the whole file
[05:14] <Ng> ToHellWithGA: cat
[05:15] <Ng> ToHellWithGA: or more/less if you want to read it one page at a time
[05:15] <crashzor> Ng, dan i just wait until the like have beter 64 bit kernel suport before i switch to the 64 bit kernel
[05:15] <snoops> crashzor not using its full potential.. only bad point
[05:15] <Exussum> Cas - i have the lastest version
[05:15] <Cas> Exussum: linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[05:15] <Ng> crashzor: at the moment, for a desktop at least, the 32bit version is far more useful
[05:15] <Exussum> linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic is already the newest version.
[05:15] <Exussum> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[05:16] <Cas> Exussum: sorry dunno then, search the bugzilla and report a new bug if you can't find anything about it
[05:16] <Blissex> crashzor: the 64 bit kernel support is practically as good as the 32 bit one. It is some 32 bit apps that are not available in 64 bit mode.
[05:16] <h3sp4wn> I would go for 64bit and use schroot to run anything 32bit I needed transparantly
[05:17] <Exussum> Cas - can i remove that kernel and reinstall it ? or is that difficult ?
[05:17] <kristian> if I haven't done it yet, is it smart to do this code? sudo apt-get install linux-k7?
[05:17] <Cas> h3sp4wn: no, but I doubt it will help you, you could try the k8 variant if you're sure your cpu supports it
[05:17] <Cas> h3sp4wn: sorry i ment Exussum ^^
[05:17] <crashzor> Blissex, some apps is there a list of apps because i did't see mutch 64 bit aps ( can be me )
[05:18] <snedar> crashzor: if you use the amd64 version, it will cost extra work to install programs like wine and firefox. I'm using x86 now, and haven't found much speed difference
[05:18] <The_Oatman> Is anyone here good at diagnosing sound problems? I have been looking through the forums and have not been able to find anything helpful.
[05:18] <Cas> Exussum: amd64-k8 i mean
[05:18] <Exussum> Cas - k8 varient ?
[05:18] <h3sp4wn> You can use a 64 bit kernel with a 32bit os
[05:18] <peritus> how can i use iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8 in dapper?
[05:19] <Blissex> crashzor: as to 64 bit apps, all free software apps are available in 64 bit native. It is the proprietary apps like Flash that are not yet available in 64 bit versions...
[05:19] <jograncal> joseluisamigosyamigas
[05:19] <Cas> Exussum: linux-amd64-k8
[05:19] <The_Guardian> I need help setting up tor for dapper
[05:19] <Cas> h3sp4wn: no you can't
[05:19] <Blissex> peritus: not that easy...
[05:19] <arnon> how do I know if crontab really execute the command I that I set for every minute ?
[05:19] <Blissex> Cas: yes you can, but it is painful to setup.
[05:20] <ajayc> [rick] : hi
[05:20] <crashzor> snedar, i'm running a amd64 3500+ ( software realy needed is: Teamspeak Gaim Openoffice.org Cedega and kde or gnome ) is there any think you know for sure i'm gowing to run in to trobbel using or not ?
[05:20] <Cas> Blissex: really? on the other hand, why would you like that?
[05:20] <Exussum> installing it now
[05:21] <Blissex> peritus: that is it very easy to say ''use 8859'' but then several things assume that you have UTF-8. But if you haven't much used UTF-8 then probably most things will work.
[05:21] <Blissex> crashzor: Wine/Cedega does not have a 64 bit version...
[05:21] <Spy> hey guys i can seem to play a wmv file it says wmv3 no codec found (using VLC)
[05:21] <ardchoille> How do I uninstall gnome-games without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[05:21] <Inferus> lol
[05:21] <afflux> morgen...
[05:21] <Inferus> im trying to install ubuntu desktop :/
[05:21] <Inferus> wont work :@
[05:22] <gdb> ardchoille: You can't, but that's ok, because ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage that's used *only* for getting gnome installed.
[05:22] <peritus> Blissex: how do i switch? i am used to reconfigure the locales package and select 8859-locales, but it seems to be changed in dapper
[05:22] <crashzor> Blissex, and there is probley no way to run i'm right or not ?
[05:22] <Blissex> peritus: to use 8859 just change the 'LANG' env variable or others described in 'man 5 locale' or 'locale -a'
[05:22] <Spy> Inferus what seems to be the problem, what wont work?
[05:22] <okay> hi
[05:22] <Inferus> says it needs python newt and openoffice ;)
[05:22] <Inferus> and its not going to install them
[05:22] <kalosaurusrex> ard: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. you can remove it safely.
[05:22] <Inferus> but i told it to install python newt n it's doing it :>
[05:22] <__mikem> Does anyone here know where a seasoned hobbiest programmer such as myself could learn about how filesystems work?
[05:22] <Inferus> __mikem google is good
[05:22] <ardchoille> gdb: You can't? I don't believe that. there has to be a --nodeps or some option to apt-get remove that I can use
[05:22] <peritus> Blissex: is there no need the regenerate 8859-locales?
[05:23] <Blissex> peritus: the locales package is about the locale-depend _files_. Then you must programs which locale to use and that is done via env vars.
[05:23] <Inferus> __mikem http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/
[05:23] <__mikem> Inerus Naturally I tried it, google like always returned everything but what I wanted
[05:23] <snedar> crashzor: gaim, kde, gnome and OO.o do work. I had trouble with teamspeak and cedega. the cedega .deb is x86-only (but maybe you can get it to work by forcing the installation). teamspeak doesn't work well here anyway, because it uses the too old OSS sound system
[05:23] <Cas> ardchoille: if you remove ubuntu-desktop remind that it won't install all the new dependencies in the future
[05:23] <Blissex> peritus: you might have to regenerate the 8859 version of the locale files, but usually locale depends files depend on the language more than the encoding.
[05:23] <ardchoille> Cas: that's why I don't want to remove it
[05:23] <peritus> Blissex: allright
[05:23] <crashzor> snedar, i now run teamspeak over dmix can't you run artsdsp on 64bit a fake it for teamspeak
[05:23] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: Tried removing it with dpkg ?
[05:23] <Spy> inferus: so you are running of the livecd now or from another os?
[05:24] <Blissex> peritus: note that you if you have UTF-8 file names switching to 8859 may be unhappy...
[05:24] <snedar> crashzor: I have no idea, never tried that. does it work well with dmix?
[05:24] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: removing gnome-games with dpkg won't remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:24] <Inferus> __mikem
[05:24] <Inferus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
[05:25] <Inferus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext2
[05:25] <crashzor> snedar, i'm talking on it right now so it works oke using dmix :) ( over artsdsp )
[05:25] <^jude^> hi - can someone help me get 1920x1200 out of xorg on dapper? it worked on hoary...
[05:25] <snedar> crashzor: even when you play games or listen to music? guess I should try that then, thanks :-)
[05:25] <peritus> Blissex: i have files that is 8859, and i am quite unhappy with that right now :P
[05:25] <crashzor> snedar, yes  :)
[05:26] <crashzor> btw can i upgrade to 64 bit whitout reinstalling or do i need to reinstall my total system ( or upgrade like dist-upgrade )
[05:27] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: No it will refuse because of dependancies - you could force it but then ubuntu-desktop would be listed as broken
[05:28] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: Any real problems/complications with removing ubuntu-desktop?
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> ardchoille: Just make sure you put it back if / when you upgrade to edgy
[05:29] <^jude^> hi - can someone help me get 1920x1200 out of xorg on dapper? it worked on hoary...
[05:30] <ardchoille> h3sp4wn: Ah, ok. I never upgrade that way.. I always do a fresh install from CD or DVD to get a new version
[05:30] <crashzor> do i need to to reinstall my system to install the 64 bit kernel or can i do it whit sameting like a dist-upgrade ?
[05:31] <kalosaurusrex> I think you can just install the 64 bit kernel?
[05:31] <kalosaurusrex> could be wrong though
[05:31] <neutrinomass> !fixres > ^jude^
[05:31] <neutrinomass> ^jude^: look at the link ubotu sent you
[05:32] <vegiVamp> anyone else having problems with www.map24.com in firefox ?
[05:32] <vegiVamp> it just hangs the browser after a few seconds. Firefox on windows doesn't have the problem.
[05:32] <^jude^> neutrinomass: thanks
[05:32] <crashzor> kalosaurusrex, now al i need is the kernel name of the 64 bit kernel on dapper :p
[05:33] <kristian> !pastebin
[05:33] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:34] <igcek> can anybody say what is my problem
[05:34] <igcek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16626
[05:35] <^jude^> neutrinomass: that doesn't help. I had to add a custom monitor section (including modelines) in hoary to get it to work, I have done this in dapper and it is ignoring it - any pointers on what has changed?
[05:35] <unimismisimo> hello anyone that have managed to install vmware-player or nero on dapper with amd64?
[05:36] <OneSeventeen> has anyone here gotten ncpmount to work?
[05:36] <igcek> btw im trying to run verbS
[05:36] <neutrinomass> ^jude^: Sorry, no idea. Xorg issues are hard to crack ...
[05:36] <Blissex> peritus: BTW there is a little app that allows you to rename files from one encoding to another.
[05:36] <Szczepan> My mobile phone number - +48692513441 !! please call for me!! :)
[05:36] <^jude^> neutrinomass: thanks anyway
[05:36] <peritus> Blissex: cool, what is the name?
[05:36] <^jude^> it has to be something that changed between the 2 versions :/
[05:36] <Blissex> peritus: also, note that both the _contents_ of a file and its _name_ can be encoded in UTF-8 or not.
[05:37] <Blissex> peritus: there is also an app to change the encoding of the contents of a file.
[05:37] <crashzor> anybody how can give me a litle insuction howto apt-get the 64bit kernel or if it can't be done notice me also ;)
[05:37] <udo> how can i setup my crypto f200 modem in my ubuntu interface
[05:38] <Blissex> crashzor: the bad news is that the 64 bit version is a different distribution from the 32 bit version, it is a complete reinstall. You cannot just change the kernel.
[05:38] <igcek> does somebody here understand java+verbOS?
[05:38] <igcek> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16626
[05:38] <kristian> Take a look at my problem everyone of you :) http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204664
[05:39] <crashzor> Blissex, damit dan i need to install hoary 64bit and upgrade to dapper by hand
[05:39] <crashzor> i have school afaction for 10 weeks so lets give it a try :P
[05:39] <udo> how can i setup my crypto f200 modem in my ubuntu dapper?
[05:40] <Blissex> peritus: to change encoding of file names: 'convmv'; to change encoding of file contents: 'recode'.
[05:40] <peritus> Blissex: allright. thanks
[05:41] <oboy> hi, I have breezy, I tried to configure alsa with alsaconf but I get command not found (alsa-base and alsa-utils are installed),  how do I configure my sound card?
[05:43] <udo> does anyone have crypto f200 modem
[05:44] <pike_> oboy: alsamixer ?
[05:44] <pike_> oboy: sorry didnt read your whole comment
[05:44] <oboy> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[05:44] <OneSeventeen> My wireless hasn't been able to access the web on networks other than my home network.  (but it connects to other networks perfectly, it just doesn't do anything once I connect)
[05:44] <oboy> ^^
[05:45] <destr0> are there any dvd creation programs bundled with ubuntu that will create a presentation dvd out of pics & video instead of just writing a data dvd?  I can create something like this windows movie maker, I was just wondering if ubuntu had anything similar.
[05:45] <Blissex> oboy: troubleshooting section of http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[05:45] <Blissex> destr0: yes.
[05:46] <destr0> blissex: what's the name of the program?
[05:46] <destr0> or package name
[05:46] <neenaoffline> I've just compiled SLIM , how do I change my default log in manager , ( on xubuntu ) ?
[05:46] <oboy> ok thx
[05:47] <Blissex> destr0: there are several, do a web search for Linux movie editors and video DVD building utilities. FreshMeat.net is always a good idea. Also 'apt-cache search'.
[05:48] <panthar> What are the minimum tools needed for things to automount under "/media".  It works fine on my desktop installs, but I have a headless  box I am using for a media server and would like to see the automounting there, too.  Am I going to have to install the gnome-volume-manager?
[05:49] <Cripps> how can I sync to my Palm Pilot's SD card?
[05:49] <Cripps> i.e. I want to install stuff to the SD card.
[05:49] <The_Guardian> hmm
[05:49] <The_Guardian> trying to setup socks bleh
[05:50] <Exussum> Hey all - any idea why my PC only uses 50% of each core ?
[05:51] <dudleh> any idea why gnome would fail to load after logging in from gdm?
[05:51] <Wanderer> hmm, anyone know how to set the browser identification in the current Dapper version of firefox?
[05:51] <Wanderer> just went through all the options and I don't see it
[05:51] <The_Guardian> does anyone here use socat?
[05:52] <The_Guardian> I am trying to configure tor/privoxy/socks to hide my ip on irc
[05:52] <The_Guardian> but still retain my apt-get usability
[05:53] <The_Guardian> right now my it's refusing all connections
[05:54] <cryptic> The_Guardian, most IRC servers block connections comming from socks proxy's
[05:54] <danfg> Braziiiiil!! 2x0
[05:54] <cryptic> afk
[05:54] <bbrazil> Wanderer: get the useragentswitcher plugin
[05:54] <The_Guardian> cryptic what about for apt-get?
[05:55] <Wanderer> bbrazil: thanks
[05:55] <bbrazil> Wanderer: might be called something slightly differrent
[05:56] <Ro1> busy right now in here eh
[05:57] <harisund> I know this is not an Ubuntu related topic, but any help would be appreciated. If I do SSH tunnelling from port A to port B, will both inbound and outbound traffic be routed?
[05:57] <Inferus> depends if you set it i guess harisund
[05:57] <Inferus> surely thats a configuration option] 
[05:58] <Blaze^^> hello, is there a program for changing the encoding of a txt file?
[05:58] <harisund> Inferus there is? Ok I will look for one then ...
[05:58] <bbrazil> harisund: it tunnels a tcp connection
[05:58] <Inferus> duno harisund, guessing
[05:58] <trappist> Blaze^^: from what to what?
[05:58] <Blaze^^> from linux's encoding :D to CP-1251
[05:58] <bbrazil> Blaze^^: recode
[05:58] <harisund> bbrazil yes .. inferus, ok I will look for one and let you know .
[05:58] <Blaze^^> (Cyrillic)
[05:58] <Inferus> bbiab going home from work
[05:58] <Blaze^^> ok, bbrazil, i'll try it
[05:59] <bbrazil> Blaze^^: recode ..cp1251 iirc
[05:59] <Blaze^^> 10x =)
[06:00] <radman57> Hello!  I'm new to irc chat and I am looking to gather information on how to access a windows active directory domain remotely from a laptop running Ubuntu 6.0.6.  Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[06:01] <bbrazil> radman57: what do you mean by 'access'? I use "net ads"
[06:02] <crashzor> radman57, you mean like windows file share ?
[06:02] <radman57> running a laptop which is member of the domain in windows, but just installed ubuntu 6 [dual boot] .  would like to access my domain shares using a wireless connection from outside the firewall
[06:03] <Ro1> srry...i dunnno anything about that
[06:03] <crashzor> i know samba suports windows share don't know if it usefull :)
[06:03] <Ro1> !wireless boot
[06:03] <martyn> how do i Mount NTFS and FAT32 drivers on startup?
[06:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about wireless boot
[06:04] <radman57> yes like windows file share - but the domain is behind ISA 2004 firewall
[06:04] <Ro1> !wireless
[06:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:04] <Ng> radman57: Places->Connect to server can connect to windows shares if you know the IP address/hostname and user details and you can't browse the windows network
[06:04] <radman57> wireless already working as I am talking to you on it
[06:04] <martyn> how do i Mount NTFS and FAT32 drivers on startup?
[06:04] <erUSUL> !ntfs
[06:04] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:05] <erUSUL> !ntfs > martyn
[06:05] <udo> !ntfs
[06:05] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:05] <martyn> thx
[06:05] <erUSUL> martyn: no problem
[06:05] <crashzor> radman57, there is probley trobbel in connect to a domain using linux i don't know if it even can be done ;)
[06:05] <The_Oatman> I could use some help diagnosing the complete loss of sound on my system... It just stopped working after some packages were installed. Sound still works in windows but no sound in Linux booting w/ -23 or -25
[06:06] <Frederic> hello
[06:06] <crashzor> The_Oatman, manaul compile ?
[06:06] <radman57> crashzor, ng - thanks for the pointers!
[06:06] <Frederic> is there a way to get phpize installed on dapper?
[06:07] <Stormx2> Anyone here use azeurus? I get these piss annoying messages the pop up in the bottom right and I can't get rid of them without killing java! Any suggestions?
[06:07] <jmoncayo> hey does anybody know any program like mototunes for linux?
[06:07] <skavenge> Stormx2 ; its apparently a known bug in the new version from what i hear
[06:07] <Stormx2> skavenge: So annoying.
[06:07] <erUSUL> The_Oatman: all sound in all apps? have you checked channels with some mixer (alsamixer)
[06:08] <skavenge> i imagine
[06:08] <Exussum> Hey all - any idea why my PC only uses 50% of each core ?
[06:08] <Stormx2> skavenge: nice name btw. What old version didn't have the bug?
[06:08] <crashzor> anybody know why it takes so long coppying over my lan i want 10 GB coppy'd in like uuh 10 sec or so :P ( j/k ) :P
[06:08] <jmoncayo> anyone?
[06:08] <Ro1> i used to have windows, now i have suse, cxan someone help...for some reaon under ubuntu my wireleess internet conenction is sooooo much slower then when i sued windows, how can i fix that?
[06:08] <skavenge> Stormx2 ; i couldnt say, saw someone discussing this earlier and he said a bug had been filed for it, i dont use the program personally
[06:08] <Zer0c00L> jmoncayo: whats mototunes?
[06:08] <Ng> crashzor: a 100Mb lan will top out at ~10MB/sec (megabytes)
[06:09] <Wanderer> hmm, even with the user agent switcher, this thing is telling me to get IE.  wtf
[06:09] <jmoncayo> well it is a program where i can update the itunes songs database for motorola cell phones?
[06:09] <snoops> with bursts up to 12.5MB/s if you're lucky
[06:09] <The_Oatman> I was trying to get a parallel port scanner to work - installed kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6
[06:09] <jmoncayo> so when i copy new music to my cell i can play it with iTunes
[06:09] <crashzor> Ng, lan is a bit slow passes a router and a pc using a 10Mb card so its just a hard ware problem ;)
[06:10] <The_Oatman> That is the package that I suspect MAY be to blame
[06:10] <Ro1> i used to have windows, now i have suse, cxan someone help...for some reaon under ubuntu my wireleess internet conenction is sooooo much slower then when i sued windows, how can i fix that?
[06:10] <jmoncayo> like make iTunes know there are new songs
[06:10] <The_Oatman> and yes, all sound in all apps - I checked alsamixer
[06:10] <snoops> amarok does that too jmoncayo
[06:10] <Zer0c00L> jmoncayo: errmm... rhytmnbox should do that
[06:10] <The_Oatman> but I am a complete linux newbie and might be missing something blatantly obvious
[06:10] <crashzor> and its used by 2 other pc's downloading stuff from the net so ist a bit of bussy on my lan atm :P
[06:11] <udo> how can i boot the kernel parameter?
[06:11] <Ro1> i used to have windows, now i have suse, cxan someone help...for some reaon under ubuntu my wireleess internet conenction is sooooo much slower then when i sued windows, how can i fix that?
[06:11] <killaz> I was wondering if there exist some rivers for logitech drivers with more then 3 buttons, like the MX 510
[06:11] <jmoncayo> oki i will install it and see if it works
[06:11] <killaz> drivers*
[06:11] <martyn> I have just mounted NTFS and FAT32 PArtions . i can get acsess to FAT32 but not the NTFS can any 1 help ?
[06:11] <snoops> ha good luck killaz
[06:11] <crashzor> Ro1, give us more information like hardware stuff ...
[06:11] <killaz> snoops, ok.... that's clear
[06:11] <snoops> you'll have to be messing about with your xorg.conf config.. and setup the driver
[06:11] <snoops> 'evdev'
[06:11] <Exussum> Hey - how can i get rid of the blue firefox logo and replace it with the firefox world logo ?
[06:11] <snoops> instead of mouse
[06:12] <crashzor> martyn, don't mount them in the same folder
[06:12] <killaz> snoops, evdev
[06:12] <udo> how can i setup my dsl usb modem?
[06:12] <snoops> I've got a mx1000.. the hastle to get all the buttons going.. gosh
[06:12] <crashzor> snoops, no logic driver for it ?
[06:12] <snoops> I wish!
[06:12] <martyn> crashzor: i used the automount guild i was given in here its a script
[06:12] <neutrinomass> udo, what modem is it ?
[06:13] <udo> f200 crypto
[06:13] <snoops> logitech doesn't even know linux exists crashzor
[06:13] <udo> access runner
[06:13] <killaz> snoops, ok.. where can I get a good how-to for evdev?
[06:13] <killaz> snoops, :D .....
[06:13] <crashzor> snoops, i use a logic mous back out of the 80's and it works oke :P
[06:13] <killaz> snoops, hehehe you make me wanna call the logitech helpdesk
[06:13] <snoops> oh please do
[06:14] <crashzor> but dat probley because the it was cool to have a scrollwall ;)
[06:14] <crashzor> killaz, record it on mp3 please dat woud be so cool :P
[06:14] <udo> neutrinomass do you have any url?
[06:14] <neutrinomass> udo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsbAdslModem/AccessRunner   I haven't finished the wiki page but it should be enough to get you started :)
[06:14] <martyn> I have just mounted NTFS and FAT32 PArtions . i can get acsess to FAT32 but not the NTFS can any 1 help ?
[06:14] <udo> ok thanks
[06:14] <crashzor> !ntfs
[06:14] <killaz> crashzor, lol...
[06:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:14] <snoops> well, I suggest you find the help for your particular logitech killaz
[06:14] <neutrinomass> udo: Feel free to email me personally if you have any trouble or any suggestions for the wiki page (it's not well formatted either)
[06:15] <snoops> since the mx1000 one is different (more buttons).. but both should be using evdev
[06:15] <crashzor> killaz, wanna here the reaction of the guy / girl working there if you say the word linux :p
[06:15] <killaz> snoops, I googled MX510 + linux.... no luck..
[06:15] <neutrinomass> udo: I do not yet explain how to configure your connection, only how to setup your modem. I'll see if I can get round to expanding it today ....
[06:15] <martyn> i have mounted NTFS Partions cant get any acsess my fstab is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16633   can any 1 help please
[06:16] <killaz> snoops, oh wait found a gentoo wiki with the exact commands
[06:16] <killaz> cool
[06:16] <liran_> could someone help me figure this out? im on dapper, latest restricted-modules and fglrx driver, though no DRI... i have an ati x1900
[06:16] <Blissex> !ntfs
[06:16] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[06:16] <killaz> snoops, you're right evdev -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/Mx510
[06:16] <crashzor> snoops, first hit google http://floam.sh.nu/guides/mx1000
[06:16] <snoops> fingers crossed killaz :)
[06:17] <Exussum> Hey all - any idea why my PC only uses 50% of each core ?
[06:17] <killaz> crashzor, no need to call to helpdesk (finger crossed)
[06:17] <erUSUL> martyn: what errors are you getting?
[06:17] <snoops> yes crashzor I know, thanks.. I already fixed my ages ago
[06:18] <crashzor> k
[06:19] <ompaul> dr_willis, can you make my firefox faster - turn off IPV6 -  if not resolved in 10 minutes then call out charge applies
[06:19] <snoops> probably just put you on an automated machine saying they don't support it
[06:19] <Exussum> Hey - how can i get rid of the blue firefox logo and replace it with the firefox world logo ?
[06:20] <dr_willis> ompaul,  heh. i often wonder  if there should be a 'tweak the system' feature of the isntaller to disable/change a lot of the settings. I dont think  many people need ipv6 at this time
[06:21] <The_Oatman> I could use some help diagnosing the complete loss of sound on my system. It just stopped working after some packages were installed from synaptic. Sound still works in windows but no sound in Linux booting w/ -23 or -25 - No help on the forums with this and it seems many people end up having to reinstall... I've checked alsamixer and there seems to be no problem there
[06:21] <crashzor> ipv6 is almost never used never used it my self whats the goal of having it anyway ?
[06:22] <dr_willis> of coruse one must wonder why having ipv6 enabled if not used.. slows things down.
[06:23] <crashzor> dr_willis, its realy simpel because it wil look if a address is on ipv6 or normal ip ( v4 it was i think ;) )
[06:23] <thundr> Hi, why would I get a CRC error when booting any of the ubuntu CDs even though the md5 matches up?
[06:24] <crashzor> thundr, check if there is damage on the disc or burn at a slower speed
[06:24] <Jack_Sparrow> The_Oatman: what did you install?
[06:24] <GigaClon> what packages do I need to install OpenGL headers for development
[06:24] <thompa> does anyone know how to disable touchpad?
[06:24] <Toma-> Anyone know if its legal to sell ubuntu cd packages from Shipit?
[06:24] <dr_willis> thompa,  comment it out of the xorg.,conf (backup the original)
[06:24] <dr_willis> thompa,  my laptop has a button next to the touchpad that turns it off. :P
[06:25] <Jack_Sparrow> same her willis
[06:25] <dr_willis> My little Turion laptop - does Linux Quite well :)
[06:25] <ompaul> Toma-, yes it is
[06:26] <The_Oatman> Jack_Sparrow: I was trying to get a parallel port scanner to work... Let me find the exact name of the package again
[06:26] <snedar> can anyone help me? I'm trying to set up xgl/compiz with the instructions from the wiki, but every time I try to start gnome-window-decorator, the whole X crashes and I'm returned to the gdm login screen.
[06:26] <Toma-> ompaul: even at $12 AU + SHipping? :/ ebay is such a scam.
[06:26] <Jack_Sparrow> thundr: could be a dirty drive
[06:26] <thompa> dr_willis:ive got no button, thing is qsynaptics would let me turn it off, but now it stopped working
[06:26] <thundr> crashzor: I burned it twice and even tried an old warty cd that I got from shipit but it still happened.  Both drives in the system give me an error, though one of them allows me to boot to the menu sometimes.  They both work in my other computer.
[06:27] <The_Oatman> Jack_Sparrow: There were a few packages but I suspect kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6 may have been to blame
[06:27] <crashzor> thundr, what os is the pc running right now ?
[06:27] <ompaul> Toma-, so get it from ship it yourself that could be a fantastic deal to a person who wants to install 10 machines has no bandwidth they can get the disks fast - remember it is the service not the disks
[06:27] <Jack_Sparrow> oat yea..
[06:27] <thompa> dr_willis: id rather be able to switch back and forth easily, than edit xorg all the time
[06:27] <thundr> crashzor: also, the drives seem to work fine in win98 (which it is running now)
[06:27] <dalphi> on a stock install of ubuntu desktop, it doesn't appear the openssh-server is available. Is there something in /etc/apt/sources.list that I can change to pickup this package?
[06:27] <Toma-> ompaul: i guess so. just hate seeing people getting ripped off on ebay.
[06:28] <crashzor> thundr, stange do you have any wierd hardware ?
[06:28] <ompaul> Toma-, as long as there are people willing to pay for it there will be people willing to sell it/
[06:28] <Mephistopheles> hello , what command helps me unzip the .zip files ?
[06:29] <killaz> snoops, lol...
[06:29] <killaz> snoops, no luck
[06:29] <thundr> crashzor: just a zip drive that's connected on the same cable as the hard drive. That's about it.
[06:29] <Jack_Sparrow> I bought CD's for linux on Ebay.. back when I only had a dialup.. and some people just cant get broadband
[06:29] <crashzor> thundr, try'd unpluging the zip drive and puting the harddisc on master ?
[06:29] <noob> hallo allemaal
[06:30] <snedar> noob: hoi, ik denk dat je in #ubuntu-nl moet wezen
[06:30] <Exussum> Hey all - any idea why my PC only uses 50% of each core ?
[06:30] <thundr> crashzor: Okay, I'll try that.
[06:30] <Mephistopheles> hello , what command helps me unzip the .zip files in terminal ?
[06:30] <The_Oatman> Jack Sparrow: so no idea?
[06:30] <kalosaurusrex> thinking gzip -d ?
[06:30] <Doat> Mephistopheles: unzip
[06:30] <noob> waar is dat? ik ben net op m'n livecd
[06:31] <sjoerd> Exussum: how did you measure that ?
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea, that kernel patch hosed you..
[06:31] <Jack_Sparrow> What type of scanner?
[06:31] <Exussum> sjoerd - CPU frequency scaling monitor says 50%
[06:31] <crashzor> lol snedar and noob both speak english snader if you point him samewere try to do i t in english not in dutch ( holland ) please
[06:32] <The_Oatman> HP 3200c (rebadged Umax)
[06:32] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[06:32] <The_Oatman> How would I go about fixing this (if at all possible without a reinstall)?
[06:32] <snedar> crashzor, ok, sorry :-) noob has found the right channel now
[06:33] <sjoerd> Exussum: that just means your cpu is scaled to 50% because that's enough for the resources your using.. It should go to 100% if your run something very demanding
[06:33] <Exussum> Like a power saving feture ?
[06:33] <crashzor> snedar, i speak dutch my self but its just a formality its beter for the othere users ;)
[06:33] <Jack_Sparrow> The_Oatman: I normally have a backup image on a second partiton to go back to.. someone else may be able to unsnarl it for you
[06:33] <kibab> Hello... how am I supposed to handle packages that try to reconfigure each time I apt-get install something (because the configure fails -- which I can easily manually fix)?
[06:34] <idella4> kibab, do you kmow about dpkg?
[06:35] <kibab> idella4: I know it's kind of works "below" apt-get, but that's about it.
[06:35] <The_Oatman> Jack Sparrow: alright, thanks
[06:35] <martyn> What the best Antivirus softwear packkage
[06:35] <idella4> dpkg has pretty extensive abilities
[06:35] <idella4> but one is to configure packages
[06:37] <idella4> once a package is installed, you can 'dpkg --configure PACKAGE'
[06:37] <idella4> follow?
[06:38] <kibab> idella4: hmm... I see that, but the problem is that the automated configure process fails each time, so I manually fixed it, but dpkg doesn't know about my fix... so do I use one of the --force-<things> to bypass the configure for the package?
[06:38] <torstefan> Hmm.. I have a little problem, the taskbar with all my running programs disapeared.. Then some dude told me to run "kicker", which turned the "explorer" off.. Anyone know how to get it bakc?
[06:38] <idella4> yes, ok. have you tried
[06:38] <martyn> What the best Antivirus softwear packkage
[06:38] <idella4> apt-get -f install?
[06:39] <_absolution_> why can't I connect to the xserver?
[06:39] <idella4> _absolution. you are
[06:39] <kibab> idella4: isn't it installed and not just configured (all the files from the package are there)... (hmm... I but dpkg can give me the status)
[06:39] <kalosaurusrex> rofl
[06:40] <idella4> what is the staus ; as in are there broken packages?
[06:40] <idella4> is there a report of broken package anywhere?
[06:40] <yacek> is there any website describing ubuntu after installation tasks?
[06:41] <idella4> yacak, sure, a number of links on the ubuntu homesite.
[06:41] <yacek> let me check...
[06:42] <kibab> idella4: it's the vmware-player package from multiverse, everything seems to work but the configure which dies (and I'm not sure there are log files around that I can look at)
[06:42] <idella4> well therewill be log files.
[06:42] <dsas> dylan_: Yes.
[06:42] <idella4> oh vmware player.
[06:43] <idella4> now tell me are you installing that from synaptic or from source?
[06:43] <yacek> idella4 can you give me a link?
[06:43] <biffhero> what is the difference between the 'desktop' .iso and the 'alternate' .iso?
[06:43] <yacek> alternate has text installer
[06:43] <kibab> biffhero: the alternate iso uses a text based installer and allows you to do a few things the other doesn't
[06:44] <biffhero> kibab: thanks
[06:44] <yacek> it is useful for lvms and raid partitions
[06:45] <idella4> yes yacek how about https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu
[06:46] <yacek> nice thanks ;)
[06:47] <idella4> kibab you still there?
[06:48] <riddlebox> does anyone know of any good repos for mythtv now a days?
[06:48] <kieos> Hi all, hope someone can help.  Just installed a fresh ubuntu distribution, and now i am having real problems connecting to the world.  The majority of my DNS lookups are coming back as 1.0.0.0  After googling this seems like it might be related to IPV6 (which I don't use, but I think is enabled by default) can anyone give me a clue how to kill this off and let me get back to normal operations?
[06:48] <_Indy_> Hello. How do I associate an extension with an icon? I have been searching it for a long, but I can't find it. Any help would be really aprecciated. Thanks in advance.
[06:48] <regebro> Anybody knows why I have a  usplash_fifo in the root after the dabber upgrade?
[06:48] <regebro> It's VERY annoying. :)
[06:49] <kieos> Anyone?
[06:49] <regebro> I'm so used to typing just /u<tab> for /usr/ and now it stopped working.
[06:50] <regebro> join #pylucene
[06:50] <regebro> sorry.
[06:50] <dylan_> dsas, so why is my audio all of a sudden choppy?
[06:50] <tH4S3c0nDc0m1Ng> Would someone mind takeing a look at my fstab from batebin to see that it is written correctly?
[06:51] <Ro1> i used to have windows, now i have suse, cxan someone help...for some reaon under ubuntu my wireleess internet conenction is sooooo much slower then when i sued windows, how can i fix that?
[06:51] <dg10050> hey
[06:51] <Wipster> hello people, just been pootling around with ubuntu this morning, now then it says its installed but I cant see under applications and internet where bittorrent is..... do I have to add it to that list?
[06:51] <Ro1> its installed
[06:51] <Ro1> just not in list
[06:51] <dylan_> Wipster, it is transparent
[06:51] <dg10050> If I have 1 gb of ram, how big of a swap partition should I make?
[06:51] <yacek> nice here is event a document describing switching from gentoo to kubuntu!
[06:52] <dsas> dylan_: No idea.
[06:52] <Wipster> there a way to make it visible?
[06:52] <dsas> dylan_: There isn't a bug reported saying anything about that iirc.
[06:52] <mikeLaptop> dg10050, how much hd space do you have?
[06:52] <dg10050> 16 gb
[06:52] <dg10050> 16.14
[06:52] <dg10050> actually
[06:52] <_Indy_> Nobody knows? :/
[06:52] <yacek> if I will install ubuntu and then kde for it, will I have that nice kde like in kubuntu?
[06:53] <mikeLaptop> personally I'd go with a gig of swap
[06:53] <dsas> yacek: yes
[06:53] <mikeLaptop> may be overkill, but...
[06:53] <dg10050> even if I have a gig of ram?
[06:53] <mikeLaptop> unless you need the space
[06:53] <mikeLaptop> i'd go eith 512 at the minimum
[06:53] <dg10050> can gparted resize swap partitions?
[06:53] <dg10050> just in case
[06:54] <mikeLaptop> i don't see why not
[06:54] <wiking> i have vlc.bz2 package on desktop. What i need to do to install it?????
[06:54] <mikeLaptop> i've only used it once or twie tough
[06:54] <dg10050> nvm, it can
[06:54] <dg10050> alright, a gig it is.
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> !pbuilder
[06:54] <ubotu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[06:54] <jmoncayo_> does anyone know where i can get music with torrent?
[06:54] <erpel> can anyone confirm the status of de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[06:55] <h3sp4wn> wiking: Try building it with pbuilder (or just use the one from the repos)
[06:55] <Wipster> dylan-: is there a way to show in that dropdown all programs installed?
[06:56] <wiking> SORRY,  i am young on it, what meant pbuilder?
[06:56] <regebro> Nobody knows why I have a  usplash_fifo in the root after the dabber upgrade?
[06:56] <thompa> i have commented out everything with touchpad in xorg.conf still it works
[06:56] <idella4> wiking you need the gcc compiler
[06:56] <mikeLaptop> has anyone had any issues with udevplug at boottime? i get "udevplug[978]  make_que: unable to create /dev/.udev/que: no such file or directory"
[06:56] <wiking> what? can i do something with terminal?????
[06:57] <kalosaurusrex> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:57] <erpel> do you get a response from de.archive.ubuntu.com ? it appears to be down
[06:57] <rixxon> where do you set up file associations?
[06:57] <mikeLaptop> thompa, there is a few different utilities to disable the touchpad
[06:57] <Halleck> hey.. I'm trying to concatenate two files with cat and write them to a third file, but I can't get cat to write out, and piping it to nano makes all the linebreaks get lost. Anybody have a better idea?
[06:58] <idella4> regebro what do you mean in the root?
[06:58] <regebro> idella4: in /
[06:58] <idella4> you mean in / or pehaps in /root
[06:58] <Blaze^^> can somebody help me with this: blaze@blz:~/Programing/Helpful$ recode cp1251 paskalMAX.cpp~
[06:58] <Blaze^^> recode: fopen (paskalMAX.cpp~): No such file or directory
[06:58] <mikeLaptop> do a search in synaptic for 'touchpad' or 'synaptics'
[06:58] <minntc> I'm looking for some help figuring out some certificate issues in firefox, specific to extension verification
[06:58] <thompa> mikelaptop: im at wits end, i need it off, i cant type without words going all over
[06:58] <Blaze^^> oops.. wrong paste
[06:59] <Blaze^^> it's actually this one: blaze@blz:~/Programing/Helpful$ recode cp1251 paskalMAX.cpp
[06:59] <Blaze^^> recode: paskalMAX.cpp failed: Ambiguous output in step `CR-LF..data'
[06:59] <idella4> well if you have done and upgrade
[06:59] <idella4> and you have something likr that you have done pretty well
[06:59] <thompa> mikelaptop: I had qsynaptics working, now it doesnt so i removed it
[06:59] <mikeLaptop> thompa, not sure if ubuntu has a bash_completion package, but try searching for that perhaps
[06:59] <idella4> is it a single file?
[06:59] <regebro> I could change my question. Could anybody running dapper, check if they have a file /usplash_fifo ?
[06:59] <Stormx2> Hi everyone.... Thinking about getting an external hdd for all my music... what do you all recommend?
[06:59] <regebro> Yup, single file.
[07:00] <martyn> Guys i just install Quake 2 off the repostry where would i find the so i can play it ?
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> Stormx2: I prefer firewire to usb2
[07:00] <thompa> none of the touchpad utilities work, ive commented out everything with synaptic
[07:00] <Blaze^^> bbrazil:
[07:00] <Halleck> can somebody give me a pointer?
[07:00] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: Meh... I know nothing about external HDDs... What would firewire be connected to? :P
[07:00] <Blaze^^> are you here, bbrazil?
[07:00] <idella4> well it sounds like a leftover from the installation
[07:00] <idella4> of a number of new packages.
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> Stormx2: Firewire port or firewire card
[07:01] <Stormx2> Halleck: Ask in #bash I guess...
[07:01] <mikeLaptop> thompa, do you have the syndaemon running?
[07:01] <Halleck> ok thanks
[07:01] <regebro> idella4: Possibly. Are you running dapper?
[07:01] <mikeLaptop> try killing that
[07:01] <martyn> Guys i just install Quake 2 off the repostry where would i find the so i can play it ? any ideas
[07:01] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: Oh sorry misunderstood
[07:01] <idella4> how about shifting it to somewhere neutral like the home folder
[07:01] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: I'm not even sure I have USB2... let alone firewire :(
[07:01] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: Can't I just use a phat IDE cable? :P
[07:01] <idella4> do a reboot and see if it has any effect.
[07:01] <regebro> idella4: Yeah, I'm thinking about that.
[07:01] <marileon> ola
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> Stormx2: Firewire pci cards are pretty cheap
[07:02] <umberleigh> hey, can someone help with a grub problem? i'm trying to fix my mbr after upgrading my box and keep getting '/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly' even though i can see the file when i type 'ls'
[07:02] <erUSUL> !es > marileon
[07:02] <regebro> Wonderful how a simple question is so difficult. Once again:
[07:02] <idella4> I have the one before
[07:02] <umberleigh> it's very similar to this: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=353305
[07:02] <idella4> main thing is  is it a problem?
[07:02] <marileon> ola xicos
[07:02] <regebro> Hey everybody.  Could somebody running dapper, check if they have a file /usplash_fifo ?
[07:02] <marileon> no x
[07:02] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: How much are they, and how much would a say... 80gb HDD be?
[07:02] <regebro> idella4: No, it's just annoying.
[07:02] <bbrazil> Blaze^^: ?
[07:02] <erUSUL> umberleigh: a reinstall with grub-install /dev/hdxx could help
[07:02] <marileon> ola
[07:02] <idella4> well shift it somewhere like that
[07:03] <wildman> regebro: no such file here
[07:03] <idella4> then assess the impact
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> Stormx2: Don't know exactly depends on where you live
[07:03] <marileon> ola
[07:03] <Blaze^^> bbrazil: i get an error trying to use recode
[07:03] <jjtuning> soy espaol
[07:03] <freezey>  i forgot my login name and password on my old ubuntu machine.... i know there is a way that u can get in thru the bootloader and change it... it logs you right into root etc i just forgot that whole process
[07:03] <idella4> I am fairly sure you will find
[07:03] <freezey> anyone know?>
[07:03] <umberleigh> erUSUL: like 'grub-install /dev/hde1' for instance?
[07:03] <marileon> kjfhfjhsfh
[07:03] <erUSUL> regebro: i have it yes and yes it is annoying with tab completion
[07:03] <regebro> wildman: OK, thanks, it's probably something weird an unessecary then.
[07:03] <Blaze^^> for example: bbrazil, blaze@blz:~/Programing/Helpful$ recode cp1251 *.cpp
[07:03] <Blaze^^> recode: bfs.cpp failed: Ambiguous output in step `CR-LF..data'
[07:03] <idella4> that you cab simply delete it without a problem
[07:03] <marileon> ola xicos k tal xo bn
[07:03] <regebro> erUSUL: Hmm. Interesting. Did you upgrade from Breezy?
[07:03] <idella4> but best to test in safe ways first
[07:03] <martyn> Can any 1 help me installed Quake 2 off the repostry and cant find where thr file is
[07:03] <Blaze^^> bbrazil: can you help me?
[07:03] <KenSentMe> freezey: just run the system rescue from grub.
[07:04] <Denial> hey all
[07:04] <erUSUL> umberleigh: i install it in mbr of the first drive  grub-install /dev/hda
[07:04] <idella4> you follow?
[07:04] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: Southern england, but I can work in dollars...
[07:04] <bbrazil> Blaze^^: I'm not an expert in recode, try a different input format maybe?
[07:04] <erUSUL> regebro: yes
[07:04] <KenSentMe> martyn: i think it's only the engine and not the game itself
[07:04] <wildman> martyn: u didn't 'see' where you've installed it?
[07:04] <regebro> idella4: Yes, of course. I know al this, thanks.
[07:04] <Blaze^^> ok, i'll try :)
[07:04] <regebro> erUSUL: A pattern is emerging. ;)
[07:04] <wildman> martyn: you cannot just type 'quake' or 'quake2' to play it?
[07:04] <Stormx2> wildman: You need the data files of the quake disk, ya know?
[07:04] <Denial> someone know to config grub after adding an second hd ?
[07:04] <martyn> No never seen where i installed it it did it itsself
[07:04] <regebro> erUSUL: Probably a left over from the upgrade then.
[07:05] <wildman> Stormx2: yes, I do :-)
[07:05] <erUSUL> regebro: fresh installs does not have this file?
[07:05] <dr_willis> Denial,  configure it to do what?
[07:05] <regebro> erUSUL: Don't know, but wildman didn't have it.
[07:05] <blacktears> hey whats up everybody?
[07:05] <wildman> Stormx2: but IIRC the engine came with a free-playable one? or was that only for Quake? or Doom? :)
[07:05] <erUSUL> regebro: i have upgraded without reinstall all the way from warty beta
[07:05] <regebro> wildman: Did you do a fresh install of Dapper, or an upgrade from breezy?
[07:05] <Stormx2> wildman: Ah ok. Well I don't know then. If I were you I'd open synaptic, properties on the package, and go to installed files, and look for the file in a "bin" dir
[07:05] <wildman> fresh Dapper, x86_64
[07:05] <umberleigh> erUSUL: no can do. i've got optical pata drives on hda and hdc, a pata zip disc on hdd and the first place i can have my sata hard disk is hde
[07:06] <erUSUL> wildman: id engines are gpl quake{1,2,3}
[07:06] <regebro> aha, see. It's a pattern. ;) Once is chance, twice is patterm 3 is universal law. :)
[07:06] <wildman> Stormx2: yeah, but it's not me who wants to play Quake (even if I have the 1st three originals, only game I ever bought ;))
[07:06] <Stormx2> h3sp4wn: You still around?
[07:06] <neighborlee> had to reintsall windows and went in to rescue ubuntu (ha), and grub is giving me (  before this reinstall everything was totally fine) error code 20 ??
[07:07] <Stormx2> wildman: Oh really? Haha. Sorry
[07:07] <neighborlee> I went in with 'rescue' mode btw
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> Stormx2: ?
[07:07] <umberleigh> urUSUL: on my old system it was sda, which is maybe why it's getting confused. i've altered menu.lst and device.map to reflect the changes but no luck
[07:07] <vincenz> What package do I need for GL/gl.h
[07:07] <erUSUL> umberleigh: try to install it in the mbr of the sata drive  grub-install /dev/hde (maybe you prefer to install it on the bootable partititon)
[07:08] <wildman> vincenz: nvidia-glx-dev, if u have an nVidia card
[07:08] <umberleigh> erUSUL: so, refer to /dev/hde1 (my /boot partition) instead of just hde when using grub-install then?
[07:08] <wobster> Hi there. how you I downgrade my kernel? I set force version in synaptic. however, the images doesn't appear in /boot so I could configure grub accordingly.
[07:08] <vincenz> wildman: I dont't
[07:08] <mikeLaptop> wildman, how is the X86_64 port of ubuntu?
[07:09] <wildman> mikeLaptop: so far, so good, though after having used this machine for more than 1 yr now (many distros have passed, both 32 and 64 bits), all I can say is that "the (desktop) world isn't ready for 64 bits computing"
[07:10] <wildman> mikeLaptop: I mean, no 'real' diff seen yet for desktop usage
[07:10] <mikeLaptop> yeah it's a pita
[07:10] <mikeLaptop> currently running slamd64 on my desktop
[07:10] <vincenz> got it thx
[07:10] <erUSUL> umberleigh: when i said boot part i was refering to the bootable partition acording to the partition table. the one with an * in the secon colummn of the output of fdisk -l /dev/hde
[07:10] <wildman> mikeLaptop: even more, the so called lots a memory advantage doesn't hold true on the desktop, mainly cuz the mobos don't support that much RAM :P
[07:10] <wastrel> ubunto
[07:10] <mikeLaptop> i can run most eeything i want, there is a few sticking points though
[07:11] <wildman> mikeLaptop: for example, I'm using FF1.5 from mozilla's site, 32 bits, so I don't have problems with plugins
[07:11] <Inferus> lo all
[07:11] <wildman> mikeLaptop: and web devels seem to like Flash a lot these days...
[07:11] <mikeLaptop> wildman, that's one of the big sticking points lol
[07:11] <wildman> mikeLaptop: all the rest is as 64 bits as it could be
[07:11] <Denial> dr_willis: ive installed ubuntu on hde1 then i installd en second hdd (hdb1) changed the grubconfig , but linux and windows dont starts with grub
[07:12] <vincenz> I still can't find GL.h
[07:12] <wildman> mikeLaptop: so, yes, the CPU is cheaper (bah, it was, not so cheap now) than an 'equivalent' P4, but no, 64 bits on the desktop is not 'yet' there... and I wonder if it will ever be
[07:12] <umberleigh> erUSUL: that's my windows partition. i don't think i can install grub there. would i be better off just reinstalling windows then worrying about recovering grub afterwards. currently i can't boot to windows or kubuntu
[07:12] <mikeLaptop> ok well it seems that noone has an idea about the udev thing, so i'll move one
[07:12] <idella4> Denial, cab you get into this ubuntu on /dev/hde1?
[07:12] <vincenz> what do I need for GL.h?
[07:12] <wildman> mikeLaptop: maybe when someone finds out that 64 bit floats is the best way to treat RAW digital images... :)
[07:12] <idella4> as in boot into it.
[07:13] <wildman> vincenz: check mesa devel packages, or google is your friend ;)
[07:13] <mikeLaptop> what are you guys using for wifi management? connecting to ap's etc
[07:13] <screwston> Hey guys, how would i replace my modified usb-storage.ko from  "/usr/src/linux/drivers/usb/storage/" to replace the orginal "/lib/modules/2.6.12.10/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/" ?
[07:13] <Ng> mikeLaptop: network-manager :)
[07:13] <mikeLaptop> Ng i tried, and it doesn't seem to work
[07:13] <vincenz> wildman: well erm mesa dev does not have GL.h
[07:13] <mikeLaptop> i was connected to my ap and had a great signal, but no net :/
[07:14] <neighborlee> vincenz, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ < thats you best friend for such things as often we need headers we aren't sure which package they are part of ;)...
[07:14] <newone> hi
[07:14] <vincenz> neighborlee: thanks
[07:14] <mikeLaptop> Ng, what applet do you use?
[07:14] <Denial> idella4 , no grub dont run any OS anymore , ive installed grub root in hd1.0 and setup in hd1
[07:14] <neighborlee> vincenz, search in the 'contents of pacckages' area ;)
[07:14] <neighborlee> vincenz, np ;)
[07:14] <vincenz> aha!
[07:15] <wildman> vincenz: maybe GLU, GLUT, but the link above might be even better ;)
[07:15] <vincenz> mesa-common-dev is broken
[07:15] <wildman> lol
[07:15] <vincenz> it doesn't contain the actual files
[07:15] <mikeLaptop> Ng, the network-manager one?
[07:15] <wildman> cya l8r ppl
[07:15] <Ng> mikeLaptop: nm-applet
[07:15] <umberleigh> Denial: do you get to grub when you boot at all, or does it just complain that there's no bootable system disk?
[07:15] <vincenz> ok thanks
[07:15] <newone> is there diff buttwen irrsi and x-chat on the level of secure
[07:15] <vincenz> that helped :)
[07:15] <idella4> Do you kow how to chroot into the ubuntu installation?
[07:15] <vincenz> wildman++ neighborlee++
[07:16] <mikeLaptop> Ng, what is it called in the applet added thing and/or synaptic?
[07:17] <Kazukisan> Is there a way to stop mplayer from displaying error messages, when trying to watch a wmv file i keep getting "To many video packets in buffer" error it plays fine but just spams this anoying message
[07:17] <mikeLaptop> Ng, i thik that's the one i was using in breezy, but i've since upgraded to dapper
[07:17] <Denial> maybe
[07:17] <Denial> yes
[07:17] <newone> can i returen the old user to the defalut of the setting from ubuntu ?
[07:17] <GreySim> Anyone know why bash is freaking out about these quotes?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16641
[07:18] <idella4> second point. Is grub installed in the ubuntu installation?
[07:18] <Denial> ive installed an new hd with windows at hdb1
[07:18] <GreySim> Things I've seen elsewhere online make it look like that should be a perfectly valid bash thing to do, but it's having issues.
[07:18] <bbrazil> GreySim: ! has special meaning. use ' rather than "
[07:18] <NATnatic> evening all... does anyone have any experience setting up compiz on dapper?
[07:18] <Denial> yes
[07:18] <GreySim> OH!
[07:18] <bbrazil> GreySim: it's from csh iirc
[07:18] <mikeLaptop> GreySim, or escape the !
[07:18] <GreySim> Or escape it with \!, I'm assuming?
[07:18] <GreySim> Yeah.
[07:18] <GreySim> Thanks.
[07:19] <yoyo_> ciao all ;)
[07:19] <yoyo_> hey
[07:19] <screwston> Is there any other Ubuntu help channels because it seems like everybody in here is too busy  already
[07:19] <yoyo_> men
[07:19] <Denial> normaly is grub at hd0 and root at hd0
[07:19] <idella4> Do you have access to the disk from where you are now?
[07:19] <yoyo_> men
[07:19] <Denial> nope
[07:19] <yoyo_> I have a problem
[07:19] <OmegaNine> Is Ubuntu built on .dep or .rpm?
[07:19] <idella4> as in ; is it plugged in the current computer?
[07:19] <newone> can i ask stupid q , did you see this message or not ? because am new to this client
[07:20] <NATnatic> newone: yes
[07:20] <Denial> querry plz
[07:20] <kdean06> How do I reset my locales? I'm getting horrible errors from perl anything I run a script...
[07:20] <yoyo_> about games
[07:20] <yoyo_> I don't
[07:20] <yoyo_> know
[07:20] <yoyo_> were
[07:20] <yoyo_> I download some games
[07:20] <newone> NATnatic: honstly thanks man :)
[07:20] <NATnatic> np
[07:20] <CarlFK> how can I 'reset' my usb stuff (drivers, hardware, whatever) - I see an error in dmesg, and not nothing is showing up in lsusb
[07:20] <GreySim> OmegaNine, .deb.
[07:21] <yoyo_> for UBUNTU sistem
[07:21] <idella4> Denial, the first step is to get into the ubuntu installation via chroot
[07:21] <OmegaNine> Cool thanks
[07:21] <Denial> yes
[07:21] <Denial> no prob
[07:21] <idella4> This can be done with knoppix,
[07:21] <Denial> can u write private msg ?
[07:21] <idella4> a SUSE version has a viable recovery mode.
[07:21] <Denial> i have
[07:22] <Denial> so i can save your msgs
[07:22] <idella4> how?
[07:23] <phoez> Is there any way to have GNOME panels stay below other windows?
[07:23] <yoyo_> I want somme games , I don't now web pages ??? pls help !!
[07:23] <Denial> write in private msgs
[07:23] <NBarton> hello
[07:23] <Denial> no registered usr
[07:24] <Denial> kk write here
[07:24] <funkmaster> does anyone have expierience with installing lirc for usage with a hauppauge wintv pci card?
[07:24] <Denial> 1. i chg root
[07:24] <Denial> then ?
[07:24] <funkmaster> i was wondering if i install lirc via synaptic will it recognize it and set it up or do i have to do something else?
[07:25] <idella4> once chroot into it,
[07:25] <Denial> kk
[07:25] <wastrel> funkmaster:  packages usually install pretty good default config
[07:25] <idella4> then from the console, use grub to intall to hard drive 1
[07:26] <Denial> whoch command ?
[07:26] <Denial> which command?
[07:26] <idella4> with   "grub-install /dev/hda1"
[07:26] <threat> hey
[07:26] <threat> what package do I install for DIVX and XVID codecs?
[07:26] <Denial> ohh
[07:26] <idella4> do you follow?
[07:26] <NATnatic> does anyone know how to resolve a "Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_color_parse: assertion `spec != NULL' failed" error when running gnome-window-decorator?
[07:27] <var> How do I map a hotkey to Katapult
[07:27] <Denial> linux is on hde1 and windows is on hdb1
[07:27] <idella4> yes that's ok
[07:27] <var> And is it possible to make double-shift my hotkey?
[07:27] <Denial> yes , so install grub into hdb1 od hde1 ?
[07:27] <mikeLaptop> am i still here?
[07:27] <idella4> yes sure.
[07:27] <mikeLaptop> Ng, it's weird nm-applet says it's connected to my ap, but it has the wrong info and I'm not connected
[07:27] <Denial> or hde1?
[07:28] <mikeLaptop> Ng, it's weird nm-applet says it's connected to my ap, but it has the wrong info and I'm not connected
[07:28] <idella4> the next issue is with the bios of the computer.
[07:28] <threat> divx?
[07:28] <threat> xvid?
[07:28] <Denial> ahh
[07:28] <idella4> most modern bios let you select which hard drive to boot from.
[07:28] <Denial> so grub takes the first in bios as hd0 ?
[07:28] <idella4> I suggest hda1 because it is the safest choice.
[07:29] <idella4> you can do both ofcourse.
[07:29] <Denial> yes
[07:29] <Denial> go on
[07:29] <Wipster> seeing as there is someone on the topic of GRUB, is there a way to remove the boot options for previous kernal builds with ubuntu upgrades?
[07:29] <mikeLaptop> any wireless gurus about, or can anyone suggest a place to go for wifi help?
[07:29] <idella4> you can simply do 'grub-install /dev/hda1"  followed by "grub-install /dev/hde1"
[07:30] <var> How do I get to the configuration for Katapult?
[07:30] <Denial> k
[07:30] <Denial> then?
[07:30] <mikeLaptop> var, have you tried ~/.katapult?
[07:30] <idella4> now grub will only wrok well if the structure is correctly in place.
[07:30] <erUSUL> mikeLaptop: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WiFiHowTo
[07:30] <var> mikeLaptop: I just kind of assumed there would be a UI for it like Quicksilver
[07:30] <idella4> which it should be.
[07:31] <erUSUL> !wifi
[07:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:31] <mikeLaptop> erUSUL, thanks
[07:31] <Denial> but i have th edit the menu.lst ?
[07:31] <erUSUL> !wifi > mikeLaptop
[07:31] <mikeLaptop> will have a look there again
[07:31] <var> besides, no .katapult file
[07:31] <Denial> i did , so it dont works now
[07:31] <idella4> yes; exactly.
[07:31] <idella4> let me get a sample for you
[07:31] <idella4> don't go away
[07:31] <mikeLaptop> var, that i don't know
[07:31] <Denial> k
[07:32] <mikeLaptop> var, not even sure what katapult does/is
[07:32] <var> you are missing out
[07:32] <var> go Alt+F2, type katapult, then hit alt+space
[07:32] <var> then type a program you want to run
[07:33] <idella4> still there?
[07:33] <Denial> yes
[07:33] <Denial> questiom
[07:33] <idella4> here is a sample
[07:33] <var> moitseuq
[07:33] <idella4> title		Windows NT/2000/XP (loader)
[07:33] <idella4> root		(hd0,0)
[07:33] <idella4> savedefault
[07:33] <idella4> chainloader	+1
[07:33] <idella4> first line is just a title
[07:34] <Denial> look http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/37272/
[07:34] <idella4> second line is the important one
[07:34] <erUSUL> idella4: please use pastebin do not flood the channel
[07:35] <idella4> hd(0,0) means first hard drive first partition.
[07:35] <murph_> hi!
[07:35] <Denial> yes
[07:35] <idella4> oh ok
[07:35] <murph_> is it just a problem of my settings or is there a server down?
[07:36] <idella4> now you said Windows id where?
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Stupid question... Is it pronounced Len-x or line-x
[07:36] <idella4> on hard drive 2?
[07:36] <wastrel> Jack_Sparrow:  yes
[07:36] <Jack_Sparrow> which
[07:36] <Denial> yes 2. hd is linux 1. hd is win
[07:36] <murph_> de.archive.ubuntu.com, is it down?
[07:36] <DBO> Jack_Sparrow, lin nucks
[07:36] <Denial> and grub have to go on 2. hd
[07:37] <idella4> so that should be (hd1,0)
[07:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> im trying to compile wine and i get this error :checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[07:37] <fowlduck> Jack_Sparrow: Lin nucks
[07:37] <idella4> which refers to hard drive 2 partition 1.
[07:37] <root__> Why am-i incappable to play .mid and .ram files???
[07:37] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[07:38] <Denial> thats linux
[07:38] <murph_> ram is real media player
[07:38] <murph_> de.archive.ubuntu.com, is it down?
[07:38] <root__> ok
[07:38] <root__> for .mid?
[07:38] <dsas> !tell root__ about restrictedformats
[07:38] <root__> no
[07:38] <root__> that sucks
[07:38] <root__> i looked
[07:38] <twitch> does anyone else have problems with webpages being screwed up in the new firefox, the layout is all screwed up forme
[07:38] <root__> there is no info about .mid
[07:38] <noob> waar is ubuntuNL?
[07:38] <idella4> well grub can be at any point.
[07:38] <Denial> hm , i have to change it becouse in bios boot is 1. lin and 2. win
[07:39] <dsas> root__: Right, but there is for real media I think.
[07:39] <Wipster> how do I make GRUB remove from its list the previous kernal builds? cause its a lil anoying
[07:39] <idella4> the point is if your ubuntu is in /dev/hde1
[07:39] <root__> i want more the .mid
[07:39] <murph_> can we open a new chat? it is a bit flooded
[07:39] <kristian> if someone with good experience with graphic card could take a look here, I would be more than glad:)
[07:39] <idella4> then your grub is in hde1
[07:39] <Denial> and win on hdb1
[07:39] <noob> weet er iemand waar ubuntu NL is?
[07:39] <Denial> yes right
[07:39] <murph_> de.archive.ubuntu.com, is it down? please enter XXYZZ if it its like this
[07:39] <noob> waar?
[07:39] <root__> dsas: For .mid files? midi music?
[07:39] <idella4> the vital step is to get a working grub installed
[07:40] <idella4> in such a way that you can boot into ubuntu.
[07:40] <dsas> root__: No documentation for that on restrictedformats as you say. But I know nothing about midi :)
[07:40] <Denial> yes
[07:40] <Denial> an win , dont work too
[07:40] <idella4> Safest approach is to install grub into the mbr of hda1
[07:40] <root__> :(
[07:40] <murph_> de.archive.ubuntu.com, is it down? please enter XXYZZ if it its like this
[07:40] <root__> HOW TO PLAY MIDI FILES? (.MID)
[07:40] <Jack_Sparrow> safest is to install it to a floppy
[07:40] <finalbeta> Wipster, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:41] <Denial> in hdb1 in my way ?
[07:41] <murph_> i just want to know this
[07:41] <Wipster> ty finalbeta
[07:41] <idella4> if you can and if you want you can install it to mbr of of hde1
[07:41] <Denial> moment
[07:41] <idella4> but from there it depend upon the cpability of the bios
[07:41] <idella4> if it will boot from hde1
[07:41] <idella4> do you follow?
[07:42] <Denial> it worken from hde1 , but windows not !
[07:42] <wastrel> playmidi
[07:42] <Denial> worked
[07:42] <dsas> root__: Shouting won't make people want to help you more. If you get no answers it's because no-one present knows or wants to help you.
[07:42] <noob> waar is de nederlanderse?????
[07:42] <murph_> IS THERE ANOTHER CHAT TO GET HEARED???????
[07:42] <idella4> do you mean windows does not boot?
[07:42] <Denial> emm
[07:42] <wastrel> ...
[07:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Murph, try #Debian    ... :)
[07:43] <dsas> murph_: Shouting won't make people want to help you more. If you get no answers it's because no-one present knows or wants to help you.
[07:43] <wastrel> heh
[07:43] <noob> nederland!! waar is de nederlandse ubuntu-chat!!
[07:43] <wastrel> !nl
[07:43] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[07:43] <Denial> i have installed linux withe only hde1 (one drive) in system
[07:43] <dsas> noob: #ubuntu-nl
[07:43] <Denial> today i build in an 2. hd , hdb1 with windows
[07:43] <erUSUL> !nl > noob
[07:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Good luck to him in #Debian... Argh
[07:43] <zacch> hi, I'm trying to get XGL running on dapper. Problem: gnome-window-decorator crashes X. Anyone else seen this?
[07:44] <Denial> do you hav an good howto for grub ?
[07:44] <noob> #ubuntu-NL
[07:44] <idella4> yes ok. so as you said before
[07:44] <Denial> have ?
[07:44] <wastrel> zacch:  #ubuntu-xgl
[07:44] <idella4> you can boot to windows from grub
[07:44] <Denial> so i install ubuntu again , but when i do this windows work anymore becouse of grub ,
[07:44] <Denial> i cant
[07:45] <cracko> anyone backup psx games?
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Denail, I install grub on floppy so unless the floppy is in the drive I go straight to MS XP
[07:45] <idella4> Windows should not be effected.
[07:45] <Denial> do you have an good howto prepair grub 4 win xp and lin ?
[07:45] <idella4> grub will work for both.
[07:45] <Wipster> ok how do I open the grub menu.lst as root because I cant modify it
[07:45] <Healot> !grub
[07:45] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:46] <Healot> rub rub
[07:46] <VitaminG> Has anyone here tried to install the Intel modem drivers in 6.06? I'm trying to and getting errors
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Denial, it just seems to work without a problem..
[07:46] <Denial> was it , cuz grub installed in the mbr from the win hd automaticly
[07:46] <cracko> i keep getting all these input /output errors its a bitch
[07:46] <mikeLaptop> wth ? now nm-applet says i have no connection, yet here i am
[07:46] <Sci-freak> Does anyone know which program displays the OSD when the vol+/- buttons are pressed on the keyboard?
[07:46] <idella4> well, man pages
[07:46] <Denial> lol
[07:46] <idella4> once in ubuntu, view the man pages of grub
[07:46] <thorondor> why
[07:46] <idella4> with 'man grub'
[07:47] <fowlduck> mikeLaptop: lies!  nm-applet is perfect! ;)
[07:47] <ashton> Can anyone point me to a quick and simple solution to use WPA on my Ubuntu 6.06 machine?
[07:47] <thorondor> why
[07:47] <mikeLaptop> fowlduck, oh how i wish that was true
[07:47] <Denial> hm ... i try again , thx!!! cu
[07:47] <thorondor> why
[07:47] <idella4> ok
[07:47] <ashton> thorondor, me?
[07:47] <thorondor> yes
[07:47] <ashton> Well it doesn't work
[07:48] <ashton> WPA
[07:48] <thorondor> why doesn't it work
[07:48] <DBO> !wpa > ashton
[07:48] <ashton> I cannot connect
[07:48] <thorondor> why
[07:48] <ashton> I'm not sure
[07:49] <thorondor> why
[07:49] <DBO> thorondor, go troll elsewhere
[07:49] <furgu> Anyone know how to fix this error: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found.
[07:49] <ashton> without me being directly connected to my router, I can't access the internet
[07:49] <idella4> Does someone know how to get gcc to become active after being installed?
[07:49] <thorondor> why not
[07:49] <furgu> kde-config --path services
[07:49] <furgu> /home/wilsone/.kde/share/services/:/usr/share/services/
[07:49] <DBO> !ops
[07:49] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:49] <thorondor> why
[07:49] <nalioth> DBO: ?
[07:49] <ompaul> DBO, ?
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> furgu: Are you trying to run Koffice in gnome?
[07:50] <Lamego> idella4, gcc is "active" after getting installed, you don't need to do nothing special abou tit
[07:50] <DBO> thorondor, is trolling
[07:50] <furgu> No in KDE
[07:50] <thorondor> no
[07:50] <anderbubble> how can I track a logical name back to its hardware source? When I plug in my wireless card I get devices eth0 and wifi0, and I want to see where each is coming from.
[07:50] <furgu> Jack_Sparrow, in KDE (kubuntu)
[07:50] <idella4> I ran a configure script, and it stopped with
[07:50] <thorondor> why
[07:50] <DBO> ^^ he keeps doing that
[07:50] <idella4> 'gcc can't make executables'
[07:50] <furgu> Jack_Sparrow, kword-data is installed
[07:50] <thorondor> why
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> ah.. koffice worked fine for me in Kubuntu
[07:51] <Lamego> idella4, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:51] <thorondor> why
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought there were two parts to Kword
[07:51] <thorondor> no
[07:51] <idella4> Lamego;  oh ok. excellent
[07:51] <idella4> thanks for that, will do so
[07:52] <Lamego> np :)
[07:52] <furgu> Jack_Sparrow, did you upgrade to 6.06, or fresh install?
[07:52] <Rondom> anderbubble: you can find this info in demsg after plugging the stuff in, but there is also a "correct" location where you can find this information
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> No was running badger
[07:52] <dignome> I'm missing the man pages for most c string functions.  Anyone know the package name offhand?
[07:52] <Lamego> dimitri, manpages-dev I believe
[07:52] <wastrel> manpages-dev digi
[07:52] <furgu> Jack_Sparrow, this is on dapper
[07:52] <wastrel> er dignome
[07:52] <dignome> ah, k.  thanks.
[07:53] <wastrel> dignome:  might want manpages-posix too. :] 
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry but I am too new to U to help You
[07:54] <anderbubble> Rondom: what "correct" location
[07:54] <oxpub> whats the name of the web based ubuntu admin tool?
[07:54] <furgu> Anyone here use KOffice on 6.06?
[07:55] <Rondom> anderbubble: no, I only meant that there#s some way to do that
[07:55] <apokryphos> !anyone
[07:55] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:55] <anderbubble> Rondom: I watch my syslog, and there are entries for wifi0, but it doesn't point to the kernel module
[07:55] <anderbubble> Rondom: At least, not that I can see.
[07:55] <Rondom> anderbubble: ok, some module print it out
[07:55] <oxpub> whats the name of the web based ubuntu admin tool?
[07:55] <anderbubble> Rondom: what do you mean by demsg
[07:55] <Rondom> anderbubble: don't know the location, sorry
[07:56] <Rondom> dmesg returns the same data, that is written to the syslog aka kernel ringbuffer
[07:56] <furgu> ubotu, thanks for the tip!  How do I ask a question correctly?  Tell me now who runs Koffice on 6.06
[07:56] <oxpub> anderbubble.. the first bot told me to repeat my question, and now theres a second bot telling me i shouldnt have repeated my first question...
[07:56] <oxpub> ridiculous
[07:56] <oxpub> no one in this channel knows the name of it?
[07:56] <oxpub> this is #ubuntu correct?
[07:57] <apokryphos> furgu: ask your question :). Though #kubuntu might be more appropriate
[07:57] <apokryphos> oxpub: is there a reason for why you're trolling?
[07:57] <oxpub> im not trolling..
[07:57] <apokryphos> oxpub: ask your question (as you already have), and leave it; if someone is able/willing to help, they will.
[07:57] <Sci-freak> Does anyone know which program displays the OSD when the vol+/- buttons are pressed on the keyboard?
[07:57] <oxpub> do you know the name of the ubuntu web based admin tool?
[07:57] <oxpub> bleh
[07:57] <hunmaat> hi. i want to have an iso8859 based locale, so I tried `dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales` but it doesn't ask for locales to use. what is the latest way?
[07:57] <apokryphos> oxpub: please stop repeating.
[07:57] <Healot> webmin?
[07:57] <oxpub> not webmin..
[07:57] <Healot> !info webmin
[07:57] <ubotu> Package webmin does not exist in dapper
[07:57] <oxpub> much like it though
[07:57] <DBO> oxpub, SWAT?
[07:58] <oxpub> maybe that was it
[07:58] <oxpub> let me google it
[07:58] <onikos> does anyone where I can find kernel sources to v. "2.6.15-23-386"?
[07:58] <Healot> !find swat
[07:58] <ubotu> Found: swat, swatch, swath, swisswatch
[07:58] <Healot> !info swat
[07:58] <ubotu> swat: Samba Web Administration Tool. In repository main, is optional. Version 3.0.22-1ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 693 kB, installed size 1972 kB
[07:58] <oxpub> nope not swat
[07:58] <oxpub> thats samba..
[07:59] <apokryphos> onikos: you want the source of it? Just apt-get source linux-386
[07:59] <idefix> how do you unblock someone in GAIM?
[07:59] <onikos> apokryphos: thx, but I have no internet connection. I can compile my drivers for my adsl device, but I need, what I told.
[07:59] <apokryphos> onikos: or grab the linux-source package
[08:00] <onikos> I've found this, but got a bit confused "linux-image-2.6.15-23-686"
[08:00] <Healot> onikos: it's on the internet repos though...
[08:00] <Healot> that's the kernel package... onikos
[08:00] <Cntryboy> Anyone know where to get the newest version of coolbits video card overclocker utility?
[08:00] <Healot> the actual package
[08:01] <furgu> Anyone know how to fix this error: koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: kwordpart.desktop not found. ???
[08:01] <onikos> healot: if I install it will I have the kernel sources? (thus the problem is solved, I mean)
[08:01] <oxpub> bleh
[08:01] <oxpub> any ubuntu developers in here?
[08:01] <oxpub> CORE that is
[08:01] <Toge> how can I listen flash sounds?
[08:02] <Healot> onikos: linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 << not this one.
[08:02] <Healot> onikos: linux-source-2.6.15-23-686 << you'll this one.
[08:02] <onikos> Healot, ok.
[08:02] <Healot> webmin isn;t in ubuntu repos?
[08:02] <idefix> never mind
[08:02] <Healot> maybe licensing i guess?
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> Healot: No one could be bothered maintaining it for debian so it got dropped from debian hence ubuntu
[08:03] <Cntryboy> so know one has overclocked their video cards in here?
[08:03] <h3sp4wn> I wouldn't linux does not like overclocked video cards
[08:03] <Cntryboy> ive read a lot of articles where ppl is doing it in linux just fine
[08:04] <onikos> do you think I can find the "linux-source-2.6.15-23-686" in "packages.ubuntu.com"?
[08:04] <Wipster> how do u modify menu.lst in grub?
[08:04] <Healot> onikos: yes
[08:04] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: Random stability problems - linux is much more bothered about the multipliers being correct
[08:04] <Healot> but too many dependencies...
[08:05] <Cntryboy> h3sp4wn: why are they so many articles about doing it and ppl getting great results then?
[08:05] <oxpub> any core developers in here?
[08:05] <Healot> !info build-essential
[08:05] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:05] <Healot> meta packages, bleh
[08:05] <bleaked> quick question, i want to enable dma on both of my hard drives in the /etc/hdparm.conf file -- i was going to use the command_line feature in the conf file -- so would i use the same line as in the example twice, or just list both drives?  Example: http://pastebin.com/733390
[08:05] <Guest995> hi @ll
[08:06] <bleaked> lo
[08:06] <h3sp4wn> Cntryboy: Maybe the people doing it are stupid maybe ?
[08:07] <Healot> aegis-web ?? oxpub?
[08:07] <Waerner> How do I list all system users in ubuntu?
[08:07] <Lamego> Warlord384, cat /etc/passwd
[08:07] <onikos> I've found this "Download linux-source-2.6.15". Do you think it will ignore that my kernel is .15-23?
[08:07] <Warlord384> Lamego: ?
[08:08] <Lamego> ops, sorry, was Waerner
[08:08] <Waerner> Lamego, thanks!
[08:08] <Warlord384> Lamego: thats ok
[08:10] <luddite> greetings, has anyone had any problems with Xorg and nvidia driver howto in the wiki BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia.. after i install sudo nvidia-glx-config enable. i can't login to X, and this is especially strange because last night it was working awesome.. i played GW and DiabloII(evidence it does work)
[08:10] <luddite> i was using dapper
[08:12] <please> i need some help on partition on one hard drive i can see it i just can not put any thing on it
[08:12] <chills> hey all. how do i configure my linuxant driver on ubuntu there is no rpm for my i686
[08:12] <chills> HSF conexant
[08:12] <Tiako> hey
[08:13] <chills> anyone a litte help
[08:13] <Tiako> I broke BitTorrent some how on linux
[08:13] <cullen> gwt
[08:13] <cullen> hey
[08:13] <cullen> everytime i try to install ubuntu it seems to only install the base system
[08:14] <rodeno> hi
[08:14] <cullen> no x no nothin!
[08:14] <please> is there any one that can help me with partitions
[08:14] <kristian> snoops, take a look here...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16627
[08:14] <cullen> am i doin somethin wrong or what
[08:14] <cullen> or does ubuntu just suck
[08:14] <wastrel> heresy!
[08:14] <apokryphos> cullen: no trolling in here please.
[08:14] <anderbubble> when I plug in my orinoco gold card I get an eth0, which is bound to the hostap driver, and a wifi0, which I can't find in lshw. Can anyone explain this behavior?
[08:14] <cullen> no im serious
[08:14] <apokryphos> cullen: so am I
[08:14] <cullen> ive tried to install twice and its only installing a base install
[08:14] <please> is there any one that can help me with partitions
[08:14] <anderbubble> And how do I keep it from using hostap? I don't want to create an access point; just use my card.
[08:14] <wastrel> cullen:  it's easy to install other stuff, once you have the base system.  what are you missing?
[08:14] <apokryphos> !anyone
[08:15] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:15] <chills> cullen: same with me
[08:15] <cullen> im missing x windows and everything
[08:15] <chills> wastrel : apt-get needs the net :\
[08:15] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Why do you have hostap installed ?
[08:15] <Tiako> I keep getting this error when I try to open a BT "'file:///home/brad/Desktop/%5BTBox%5D.Simpsons.Season.17.-.Complete.%5Brl%5D(2).torrent' could not be opened:
[08:15] <Tiako> Not a File"
[08:15] <bruenig> cullen, if it only installs base install and gives you a command line, just type sudo aptitude ubuntu-desktop and it will be the same
[08:15] <cullen> from everything ive read other people are able to install and load right into x windwos
[08:15] <The_Guardian> damn still can't get privoxy setup for IRC
[08:15] <wastrel> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop  cullen chii
[08:15] <wastrel> chills, rather
[08:15] <JoeUK> im thinking of setting up ubuntu
[08:15] <pike_> cullen: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop if its alreaddy installed you have an X problem
[08:15] <JoeUK> can i ask some questions?
[08:15] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I didn't install it intentionally. Is it something I can remove in apt?
[08:15] <bruenig> sudo aptitude install ubuntu desktop, my fault
[08:15] <The_Guardian> !privoxy
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about privoxy
[08:15] <The_Guardian> !tor
[08:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about tor
[08:15] <The_Guardian> bleh
[08:15] <please> i need some help on partition on one hard drive i can see it i just can not put any thing on it
[08:15] <apokryphos> JoeUK: fire away
[08:15] <Healot> !find tor
[08:15] <ubotu> Found: akregator, bittornado, bittorrent, emacs21, evolution-exchange (and 215 others)
[08:15] <wastrel> please:  is it NTFS?
[08:15] <please> no
[08:16] <please> ext3
[08:16] <cullen> yeah but shouldnt all that have installed during the install process?
[08:16] <Healot> !info tor
[08:16] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1.0.16-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 608 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[08:16] <JoeUK> okay
[08:16] <Tiako> Oh damn I see all the torrents on my computer turned into seed files how the hell do I change them back to just torrents?
[08:16] <wastrel> please:  is it mounted rw or ro?
[08:16] <cullen> i think the install is broken
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Are you certain hostapd is running ?
[08:16] <Healot> !find privoxy
[08:16] <JoeUK> im thinking of setting up a dual boot
[08:16] <ubotu> Found: privoxy
[08:16] <please> well i have the drive split
[08:16] <JoeUK> which dual boot system does it use?
[08:16] <Healot> !info privoxy
[08:16] <please> rw
[08:16] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-5 (dapper), package size 1504 kB, installed size 2852 kB
[08:16] <apokryphos> !msgthebox
[08:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about msgthebox
[08:16] <apokryphos> !msgthebot
[08:16] <luddite> need to turn off services in ubuntu... how do i do it, in debian it's  #update-rc.d -f "service_name"  remove, is it the same in ubuntu?
[08:16] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:16] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: wifi0 I would expect to be a virtual interface
[08:16] <rodeno> hi all
[08:16] <bruenig> cullen, you may have gotten a server edition or alternate install .iso by accident
[08:16] <Tiako> Hey
[08:16] <twitch> has anyone gotten WMV files to stream properly in firefox?
[08:16] <cullen> what do i need desktop edition?
[08:17] <cullen> it said desktop edition was only for temporary installs or somethin
[08:17] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: hostapd is not running, but eth0 is definitely bound to the hostap kernel module, which is inserted
[08:17] <JoeUK> its too full in here
[08:17] <wastrel> cullen:  you don't need anything - you can just install the full desktop if you don't already have it :] 
[08:17] <cullen> huhhhhh
[08:17] <twitch> anyone at all?
[08:17] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: if it doesn't work it's 'cos you're not trying hard enough!
[08:17] <gnomefreak> !wmv > cullen
[08:17] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: could you explain the concept/use of a virtual interface? Where does it come from? How can it be managed?
[08:17] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Have you tried using wpa_supplicant
[08:17] <Tiako> Is there a restore option?
[08:17] <wastrel> JoeUK:  dual boot- you'd install windows first, then linux
[08:17] <bruenig> cullen, wastrel is right but yes you do need the desktop edition if you want ubuntu-desktop to be installed by default
[08:17] <kbrosnan> ubotu, tell twitch about firefox
[08:17] <JoeUK> yeah
[08:18] <JoeUK> i have windows installed
[08:18] <gnomefreak> cullen: the pm from ubotu should help you
[08:18] <cullen> why dont it install
[08:18] <luddite> or suffer teh wrath of grub
[08:18] <please> because i have to partitions on u drive'
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  grub is the boot loader which will allow you to choose which OS to boot
[08:18] <onikos> My kernel version says "2.6.15-23", but what I'm downloading is "2.6.15-25". Do you think there will be any incompatibilities?
[08:18] <twitch> ive tried ubotu already
[08:18] <JoeUK> does grub have a GUI?
[08:18] <twitch> i have wmv files streaming
[08:18] <cullen> thats gay
[08:18] <bruenig> twitch, the mplayer plugin works well for me
[08:18] <cullen> it said the desktop edition was temporary
[08:18] <JoeUK> at the booting end of things
[08:18] <luddite> grub is command line
[08:18] <bruenig> !info mplayer
[08:18] <JoeUK> i mean
[08:18] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[08:18] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Its so you can connect to multiple wireless networks at the same time if you want (I wondered the same thing when I first installed madwifi-ng)
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  it's sortof like the windows boot loader if you have multiple windows OS versions.
[08:18] <JoeUK> when im booting my machine
[08:18] <twitch> theres no description on how to get the mplayer plugin working on Dapper
[08:18] <wastrel> so it's sortof a gui but it's just a menu
[08:18] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I don't see how that's applicable. I don't know why this driver is loaded in the frst place. I don't have a prism based card; I have an orinoco card.
[08:18] <JoeUK> can i set it to automatically load windows after x seconds unless i say something
[08:18] <wastrel> JoeUK:  yes
[08:19] <rodeno> 
[08:19] <JoeUK> how?
[08:19] <Lamego> JoeUK, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:19] <Wipster> ok realy realy newbie question here, I have to 'make' this program whats the command for a compiler if there is one built in that is
[08:19] <JoeUK> meh
[08:19] <JoeUK> im a linux n00b
[08:19] <Lamego> Wipster, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:19] <JoeUK> http://linuxgazette.net/107/misc/tomar/grub.jpg
[08:19] <apokryphos> Wipster: check the FAQ
[08:19] <twitch> ive tried ubuntuguide.org
[08:19] <Healot> !info build-essential
[08:19] <JoeUK> does linux look like that?
[08:19] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[08:19] <cullen> ubuntu sucks
[08:20] <please> can anyone help me
[08:20] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: still, what creates the virtual device wifi0?
[08:20] <Lamego> !anyone
[08:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[08:20] <JoeUK> i mean
[08:20] <bruenig> ci;;em. wjat os upir [rpb;e,
[08:20] <JoeUK> grub
[08:20] <wastrel> JoeUK:  that's just the bootloader, the ubuntu one looks similar
[08:20] <wastrel> yes
[08:20] <bruenig> cullen, what is your problem
[08:20] <JoeUK> okay wastrel
[08:20] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: i was gonna give him another shot at that one ;) but ty
[08:20] <luddite> the answer to my question is yes, you can use update-rc.d to remove services
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: The driver usually if it supports linux wireless extensions properly
[08:20] <rodeno> please what happened?
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: Just setup wpa_supplicant use wext as the driver and eth0 for the interface
[08:21] <please> i have 2 partitions on my drive both ext2 and i can see the 2 one but i can not do anything with it
[08:21] <JoeUK> wastrel
[08:21] <JoeUK> when im installing it
[08:21] <JoeUK> should i plug out all my USB stuff?
[08:21] <Sivik> does anyone here use nvclock?
[08:22] <wastrel> JoeUK:  i'm not an expert on the installer, only used it once :] 
[08:22] <The_Guardian> anyone here know how to get privoxy to work with IRC?
[08:22] <luddite> ok folks, i want to tweak my ubuntu install... what services did you all turn off?
[08:22] <onikos> joeuk: I had to plug out my usb adsl device in suse, but not in ubuntu!
[08:22] <luddite> cause it's a memory hog...
[08:23] <onikos> JoeUK: (all this in the installation process, that was not what you meant?)
[08:23] <luddite> i turned off pcmcia and ppp
[08:23] <rodeno> turn off bittorrent and acpi if not needed
[08:23] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I still do not see how that is applicable. wpa_supplicant is an implementation of 802.11i. I have the wrong driver for my 802.11b device loaded. It's loading the hostap driver, I need the orinoco driver.
[08:23] <bruenig> twitch, don't know if anyone told you but to install mplayer plugin, make sure extra repositories are enabled and then do this in the command line sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[08:23] <luddite> ok, thats niext
[08:23] <Healot> The_Guardian: read the FAQ on privoxy/tor site
[08:23] <JoeUK> yeah onikos
[08:23] <JoeUK> like my pocketpc
[08:23] <JoeUK> wifi
[08:23] <JoeUK> bluetooth
[08:23] <JoeUK> vacuum cleaner
[08:23] <JoeUK> webcams
[08:23] <JoeUK> tv cards
[08:23] <apokryphos> !enter
[08:23] <JoeUK> such?
[08:23] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:23] <rodeno> he he
[08:23] <michas> !tell michas about updates
[08:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about updates
[08:23] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: It will work with hostap imo
[08:23] <michaelfavia> is there a way to install desktop ubuntu dapper without booting into liveCD first ... it takes forever....
[08:24] <harisund> michaelfavia I think you can use the alternate CD
[08:24] <wastrel> please:  system->administration->disks  does that help at all?
[08:24] <apokryphos> michaelfavia: yes, use the alternate CD, see the FAQ
[08:24] <bruenig> michael favia, you can use the alternate
[08:24] <please> no
[08:24] <michaelfavia> i will thx...
[08:24] <Dial_tone> is 'dpkg -l' just installed pkgs?
[08:24] <rodeno> ya install any distro and install ubuntu-desktop
[08:24] <apokryphos> Dial_tone: yes
[08:24] <harisund> Dial_tone not necessarily
[08:24] <please> becuase i can see i just can not put anything on it
[08:24] <wastrel> please:  you may need to edit /etc/fstab to mount the drive rw instead of ro  (read/write vs read only)
[08:24] <h3sp4wn> anderbubble: It supports the linux wireless extensions and appears to initialise correctly
[08:24] <Dial_tone> ok, which one is it?
[08:25] <harisund> Dial_tone sometimes it lists unpacked but not installed packages. To ensure only installed packages are printed use "dpkg --l | grep ^ii"
[08:25] <wastrel> please:  you may also need to add a 'user' flag to the mount options
[08:25] <please> well this is what the fstab says  /dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:25] <harisund> Installed packages are listed beginning with "ii" in the dpkg -l listing. using the grep pipe you can filter out the installed programs alone
[08:25] <Dial_tone> ok, thanks
[08:25] <jedi__> ubuntu ROCKS!!
[08:26] <jedi__> :D
[08:26] <harisund> I agree jedi__ :)
[08:26] <ompaul> jedi__, understatement ;-)
[08:26] <jedi__> I just installed it with kde desktop I love it... just so easy to set up
[08:26] <wastrel> please:  try changing nouser to user
[08:27] <id10t> 'lo all... what do i need to apt-get install to be able to build packages from source?
[08:27] <apokryphos> id10t: check the FAQ
[08:27] <Answer> Help!  how do I uninstall or turn off power management?  (hopefully from the command line)
[08:27] <Sivik> id10t, you have to have the src repos open
[08:27] <luddite> ok what other tweaks do you all suggest to spead up ubuntu
[08:27] <please> any thing else
[08:27] <Sivik> luddite: get more ram
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> Dial_tone: I think dpkg-query -W --showformat='${Installed-Size;-10} ${status;-25} ${Package}\n' | sort -n (looks nicer)
[08:28] <luddite> i got 4 gb
[08:28] <luddite> can't get no more
[08:28] <Sivik> luddite: then how slow is your machine?  what kind of cpu?
[08:28] <Sivik> luddite: are you that impatient that 4 gb isn't fast enough
[08:28] <var> I'm a luddite, also.
[08:28] <var> I hate those newfangled contraptions.
[08:28] <Dial_tone> thanks, h3sp4wn
[08:28] <ompaul> woops this is not offtopic
[08:29] <gnomefreak> lol ompaul
[08:29] <aaronc> why does it take forever for ping to send packets?
[08:29] <var> luddite: ever read Vonnegut?
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc, maybe because you network is slow?
[08:29] <J-_> man, i installed gdesklets from a repo, figured it didn't work, but it's in the system tray, didn't know it was at the time, thought i messed up the install =P
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc, what kind of connection do you have
[08:29] <aaronc> Sivik: I'm not talking about the ms return time... I'm talking about the time between sending packets
[08:29] <var> I'm having a break in dependencies with adept package manager -- I'm fairly noob, I'm trying to install typo-env, I got base installed, but now i need env and site
[08:29] <Cornellius> What's the best way to install Reiser4 on U/K/Xubuntu ?
[08:29] <please> anything else i should change dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:29] <Sivik> aaronc: thats pretty normal
[08:29] <Answer> Help!  how do I uninstall or turn off power management?  (hopefully from the command line)
[08:29] <aaronc> Sivik: no it isn't
[08:29] <Mastastealth> I just setup my wireless USB adapter with ndiswrapper, but it appears its not very friendly with Network Manager. NM shows the networks in range, but they all appear with 100% signal. I connect to mine (which was WPA, but is now open) to test it, and NM still can't connect. However a ifdown and ifup of that card works fine, yet NM still doesn't report a connection...can NM be fixed?
[08:30] <Sivik> aaronc: not sure
[08:30] <Sivik> sometimes mine is slow
[08:30] <wastrel> please:  did it work with user instead of nouser?
[08:30] <aaronc> Are there any other network issues with Ubuntu other than ipv6 modules?
[08:30] <aaronc> speaking specifically about dapper drake
[08:30] <J-_> where's a good place to get gdesklet themes?
[08:30] <please> do not know i got to restart
[08:30] <luddite> well my cpu isn't the issue, i installed breezy upgraded to dapper, installed nvidia-glx and then cedega... i played a couple of games, when i logged out/rebooted gdm is broken.. i'm a tad bit frustrated
[08:30] <flobee> DCC SEND is-unbutu-open-source-or-not 0 0 0
[08:30] <wastrel> please:  you don't have to restart
[08:30] <kash> ahahahah
[08:30] <kash> you all must reboot
[08:30] <I_Eat_Plastic> :o
[08:31] <please> what just save
[08:31] <luddite> if you do have to restart, sudo shutdown -r now
[08:31] <Starl1ng> luddite:
[08:31] <please> nope
[08:31] <please> did not work
[08:31] <Wipster> ok I have the program made how do I execute it.........
[08:31] <Sivik> all you have to do to restart if type sudo reboot
[08:31] <Sivik> not all that other crap
[08:31] <neutrinomass> Hm... what part of the Dee Cee Cee string is the exploit? Is it the three zeroes ?
[08:32] <wastrel> please:  you have to unmount & remount the drive
[08:32] <Toge> hello
[08:32] <Sivik> Toge: whats your question/problem
[08:32] <Toge> if i stop gdm with "stop gdm", how can I restart it? I tried "start gdm" but i doesn't run
[08:32] <Mastastealth> how do i run network manager in debug mode?
[08:33] <Answer> gdm restart
[08:33] <apokryphos> Toge: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:33] <Toge> thanks
[08:33] <lmadre> hola
[08:33] <Starl1ng> neutrinomass: Is I remember the IRC-protocol correctly the "three zeroes" would be ip-number and port where you should connect to start downloading the file sent to you.
[08:33] <twitch> anyone else having problems with webpage layout?
[08:33] <wastrel> no problems with webpage layout
[08:33] <animato> hello, i just compiled my first kernel ever, 2.6.16, but for some reason i can't see usplash. is there a way to fix it without re-compiling all over again?
[08:33] <MikkelRev> Does anyone here use seti@home? When I try to install it, it fails to connect to the berkely server, and tries again and again and again... Anything wrong?
[08:34] <J-_> where's a good place to get gdesklet themes?
[08:34] <Seveas> !dcc
[08:34] <lmadre> habladme en espaol please!
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about dcc
[08:34] <Seveas> !es
[08:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:34] <J-_> !gdesklet
[08:34] <Toge> i cant restart it, "gdm restart" doesnt work, and "gdm start" neither
[08:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about gdesklet
[08:34] <please> nope
[08:35] <Seveas> !gdesklet is <alias> gdesklets
[08:35] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:35] <Answer> Toge, I never had luck with gdm... i just reboot
[08:35] <lmadre> hello
[08:35] <lmadre> kiero espaol
[08:35] <apokryphos> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:35] <luddite> evms is what kind of $sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:35] <neutrinomass> Starl1ng: Oh makes sense. The frequency of it was greatly reduced lately so I thought somehow freenode staff managed to fix it. Anyway, thanks :)
[08:36] <luddite> whoops
[08:36] <Seveas> !dcc is <reply> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware
[08:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:36] <Seveas> !exploit is <alias> dcc
[08:36] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:36] <wastrel> Seveas:  upgrade firmware?  you can just connect to a different port - i thought it only works if you're on 6667
[08:37] <ompaul> wastrel, changing to 8001 works
[08:37] <wastrel> exactly
[08:37] <Seveas> wastrel, that won't work for all IRC networks
[08:37] <Seveas> many only use port 6667
[08:37] <GigaClon> in some cases its downgradeing firmware
[08:37] <wastrel> you're selfless Seveas ;]   i was just thinking of here
[08:37] <ompaul> wastrel, better to upgrade
[08:37] <wastrel> i suppose
[08:37] <GigaClon> not all servers are affected
[08:38] <please> wastrel that did not work
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: Do you know which routers by any chance ?
[08:38] <GigaClon> http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:38] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, linksys and another brand which I forgot, but not all types
[08:38] <GigaClon> thats a link i found
[08:38] <wastrel> please:  what error are you getting?
[08:38] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: If its linksys they can probably just install openwrt
[08:39] <GigaClon> netgear 614 and 624
[08:39] <OneKiD> DCC SEND hashhashcomgcompilerz 0 0 0
[08:39] <luddite> faster reboot
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s/$/ - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:39] <ubotu> Missing end delimiter
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s/$/ - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068/
[08:39] <ubotu> You used the delimiter too often. Maybe try another one?
[08:39] <luddite> what's the name of the service for large volume manager? (LVM) is it EVMS?
[08:39] <Seveas> !dcc =~ s#$# - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068#
[08:39] <Raito> I installed pcsx from a package, (pcsx-bin), but how does it work? typing pcsx in run causes nothing to happen. How come?
[08:39] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[08:40] <please> access denied to /media/hda3
[08:40] <gnomefreak> Seveas: time to +r?
[08:40] <ompaul> gnomefreak, one more
[08:40] <gnomefreak> ok
[08:40] <Seveas> DCC SE.. eh wait ;)
[08:40] <wastrel> heh
[08:40] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[08:40] <rebelde> hola
[08:40] <J-_> i just opened synaptic, the following occured:W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <J-_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <J-_> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:40] <rebelde> hay alguien o ke?
[08:40] <wastrel> please:  get rid of all those flags and just use 'defaults' maybe.
[08:40] <Seveas> !es
[08:40] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:41] <J-_> sorry
[08:41] <gnomefreak> J-_: use pastebin to paste
[08:41] <J-_> :S
[08:41] <please> what are flags
[08:41] <LoRez> Md: someone play with dcc stuff again
[08:41] <J-_> ok
[08:41] <ompaul> J-_, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:41] <rebelde> oyeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
[08:41] <ompaul> LoRez, that ain't playing ;-/
[08:41] <wastrel> please:  the options, in the options column in fstab
[08:42] <luddite> what provides better support for nvidia, dapper or breezy
[08:42] <Wipster> ok I'm in the directory of this unrar thign from terminal but when I say unrar it doesn't run the program it says unknown command, how do I run it :/
[08:42] <ompaul> ** Note ** For those of you who suddenly quit there please upgrade your router firmware
[08:42] <Hexidigital_> luddite:: imo, dapper
[08:42] <ompaul> !dcc
[08:42] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:43] <GigaClon> some people can
[08:43] <gnomefreak> luddite: i didnt see such a big difference
[08:43] <GigaClon> err can't upgrade the firmware
[08:43] <rebelde> hay alguien o no
[08:43] <J-_> anything on my poblem I have?
[08:43] <rebelde> ??
[08:43] <ompaul> !es
[08:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:43] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: those who quit where? (i just got here, and missed the beginning)
[08:43] <Raito> Anyone know where to put bios files for pcsx?
[08:43] <J-_> i pasted, then got kicked. or should i ust pastebin and paste the url in here?
[08:43] <J-_> use*
[08:43] <GigaClon> ya
[08:43] <ompaul> J-_, yes
[08:44] <J-_> k
[08:44] <gnomefreak> J-_: yes
[08:44] <relix> I'm having trouble with my GRUB, can't seem to start Windows anymore. Error 12: Invalid device requested
[08:44] <__mikem> Did you know if you get your eyes dilated, you can see the screen refresh
[08:44] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, there were about 15 who got hit
[08:44] <GigaClon> !offtopic
[08:44] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:44] <relix> rootnoverify (hd0,4), savedefault, makeactive, chainloader +1
[08:44] <rebelde> oyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[08:44] <luddite> ok how many of you have had issues with asus sli boards?
[08:44] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: does that link have a list of affected routerS?
[08:44] <ompaul> !es
[08:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:44] <ompaul> !dcc
[08:44] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[08:44] <please> what should it look like if i remove the flags
[08:45] <Hexidigital_> thx ompaul
[08:45] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, read ubotu
[08:45] <wastrel> please:  just use  defaults
[08:45] <__mikem> ompaul, did something just happen in the chanel
[08:45] <MrBallZ> hi, anyone knows if Firefox can identify itself as internet explorer ... ?
[08:46] <kbrosnan> Yes the user agent switcher extension
[08:46] <ompaul> !test
[08:46] <ubotu> test is The test is complete.
[08:46] <Seveas> !forget test
[08:46] <Hexidigital_> of course, i have one of those routers :/
[08:46] <MrBallZ> let me see
[08:46] <Znortfl> Hey, anybody got a clue on how to use an iPod on ubuntu breezy?
[08:46] <__mikem> Seveas, did I just mis something, it looks like the room is recovering from that exploit
[08:46] <thechris> nfs RPC issue on an older ubuntu computer
[08:47] <Dial_tone> Znortfl, install gtk-pod?
[08:47] <wastrel> !ipod
[08:47] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[08:47] <bleaked> so, i just rebooted and my system dumped me into the BusyBox shell with the following error: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off  -  so what might this mean?
[08:47] <Znortfl> thanks wastrel
[08:47] <Znortfl> Dial_tone, I tried yeah
[08:47] <please> no
[08:48] <bleaked> Znortfl: what do you need to know about pods?
[08:48] <thechris> the wiki just goes on and on about autofs.  i just want nfs
[08:48] <thechris> but the RPC issues prevent me from using nfs in ubuntu
[08:48] <Znortfl> bleaked: I'd like to play music on my new iPod nano, by using my linux pc to get files on it
[08:48] <Minty_> Have a link to my win partition, but cannot get it to mount in the computer, have tied thi http://pastebin.ca/73330  but to no avail, any help please
[08:48] <Waerner> If I wish to use another compiler than GCC4, how do I do? I have a weak memory telling me to write something like CCX=gcc3.3 ?
[08:49] <riddlebox> Znortfl, you can use sharpmusique to do it
[08:49] <Znortfl> riddlebox, will try thanks
[08:49] <Seveas> Waerner, mixing gcc4 and gcc < 3.4 on a system will be problematic if you eant to use C++
[08:49] <J-_> here's the url, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16649
[08:49] <MikkelRev> Does anyone here use seti@home? When I try to install it, it fails to connect to the berkely server, and tries again and again and again... Anything wrong?
[08:49] <Znortfl> riddlebox, is that an existing package in the repo?
[08:49] <bleaked> Znortfl: well, i use kde, so there's a nice kio-slave that automounts it, and the media player amaroK has full ipod support.  unfortunately in gnome, the options are, IMHO, are piss-poor.
[08:49] <riddlebox> Znortfl, it may be sharpemusique I am not sure but if you google it, you will get something
[08:50] <ompaul> Waerner, can you spell disaster?
[08:50] <Waerner> Seveas, but Verlihub have many issues using gcc 4...
[08:50] <riddlebox> Znortfl, it used to be called pymusique if that helps
[08:50] <Znortfl> riddlebox, thanks
[08:50] <please> still nothing
[08:50] <h3sp4wn> Waerner: export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 (It will be back after a reboot that way)
[08:50] <Znortfl> bleaked: so I cant run amaroK in gnome?
[08:50] <Waerner> h3sp4wn, thanks =)
[08:50] <Seveas> Waerner, then that should be fixed. GCC got a lot stricter and sloppy programmers will have to fix theur bugs
[08:50] <please> anything else i should change dev/hda3       /media/hda3      ext3 nouser,defaults,errors=remount-ro,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 1 2
[08:51] <bleaked> Znortfl: another option, would be what i did: install rockbox (an alternative firmware for various media players) onto my ipod and i just use amarok to dump songs on..otherwise one could just drag and drop into /dev/sda2
[08:51] <Waerner> Seveas, I'm afraid I can't do that anyway :P
[08:51] <__mikem> HEy Seveas, do you know what sloppy programming is sometimes called, Job Security!
[08:51] <Seveas> __mikem, I know all about that
[08:51] <bleaked> Znortfl: no, you can use amarok..you just can't use the nice kio-slave
[08:51] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I think you get the differed in signdness gcc errors even with well written code sometimes
[08:51] <cryptic> ok guys, earlyer i tried to install apache, which didnt go to well, would u recommend a sudo rm apache?
[08:51] <Discipulus> my firefox just up and froze
[08:51] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, 'differs in signedness' is a warning, not an error
[08:52] <Discipulus> why does it keep freezing?
[08:52] <ompaul>  cryptic no
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache
[08:52] <ompaul> !reinstall
[08:52] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: no?
[08:52] <bleaked> Znortfl: but you can tell amarok to mount it, using a pre-connect command
[08:52] <Seveas> although using -Werror is recommendable 
[08:52] <cryptic> thanks Hexidigital_
[08:52] <riddlebox> Hexidigital_, man you beat me
[08:52] <Discipulus> and sometimes when I open a webpage sometimes it crashes
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> :)
[08:52] <cryptic> lol
[08:52] <thechris> so i take it ubuntu 5.x had no nfs support...
[08:52] <cryptic> oh
[08:52] <Znortfl> bleaked: I dont think dumping my songs on /media/ipod will work
[08:52] <thechris> this will take all day with shfs
[08:52] <__mikem> riddlebox are you playing "who can provide help the fastest"?
[08:52] <cryptic> and guys whats the shortcut key/keys to get to terminal
[08:52] <Hexidigital_> ompaul:: sorry, read the screen too fast
[08:52] <cryptic> ???
[08:52] <ompaul> cryptic, I would suggest the first part of that reinstall
[08:53] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: Yes - accepted
[08:53] <Seveas> cryptic, you'll have to set one
[08:53] <riddlebox> __mikem, you want to play too
[08:53] <cryptic> oh ok
[08:53] <J-_> i have an error when i go into synaptic, here's the reference http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16649. how can i fix it?
[08:53] <cryptic> thought there was a defult
[08:53] <__mikem> lol Ill jump in if theres something I can help with. I just like to hang out in here
[08:53] <cryptic> what do u mean ompaul?
[08:53] <Seveas> J-_ hit the reload button in synaptic
[08:53] <krang> Anyone one know of a nice SCP GUI?
[08:53] <J-_> k
[08:53] <Seveas> krang, nautilus (places  connect to server)
[08:54] <ompaul> cryptic, as Hexidigital_ said  sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>
[08:54] <krang> Seveas: well I'll be blowed. Cheers
[08:54] <bleaked> Znortfl: well, not with the apple firmware, since that only reads from a lame database and puts the songs into obfusticated folders and filenames -- but rockbox reads straight up.  amarok works well though, it will write to the iTunesDB, and you can even extract songs off of it as well -- don't even bother with gtkpod, it's a terrible app.
[08:54] <cryptic> and then try and reinstall?
[08:54] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: It does make you think of non existant problems though (well does me)
[08:54] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS?
[08:54] <please> all i want to do is be able to use my other partition
[08:54] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, warnings should be fixed - they indicate possible bugs 
[08:54] <J-_> thanks seveas
[08:55] <Znortfl> bleaked, yes, I discovered that myself about half an hour ago
[08:55] <cryptic> cryptic@cypto:~$ sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2
[08:55] <cryptic> Reading package lists... Done
[08:55] <cryptic> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:55] <cryptic> Note, selecting apache2-mpm-worker instead of apache2
[08:55] <cryptic> Package apache2-mpm-worker is not installed, so not removed
[08:55] <cryptic> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:55] <cryptic> awww
[08:55] <Dragoonz> I'm having trouble with pam modules i think... i'm attempting to login to and AD server.  at prompt i type in login. then <username> then <password>.  i get pam_winbind: user <username> granted access then i retype the password  again and get the same thing.  then i get login: FAILED LOGIN 'console' FOR 'username' Module is unknown.  any ideas?
[08:55] <cryptic> sorry
[08:55] <funkmaster> how can i kill a process which isn't getting killed with sudo kill -9 or sudo kill - HUP
[08:55] <cryptic> that was ment to go to a paste bin
[08:55] <funkmaster> ?
[08:55] <hbweb500> I get a "kernel panic: unable to mount root file system" after installing a 2.4 kernel in Dapper. Any suggestions?
[08:55] <__mikem> cryptic to prevent that from happening again please pastebin
[08:55] <ompaul> !pastebin
[08:55] <Seveas> hbweb500, LOL!
[08:55] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:56] <__mikem> Seveas, that was a little harsh, but then again, its your ops account
[08:56] <Seveas> hbweb500, yeah, ditch that 2.4 kernel and use something from the 21st century
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> Seveas: I would say yes for most warnings but not that one as you can have perfectly valid C that does that
[08:56] <crm-114> does anyone know if the alsa snd-intel8x0 driver is able to multiplex sound on its own?
[08:56] <Seveas> hbweb500, 2.4 is NOT possible with ubuntu
[08:56] <hbweb500> Seveas: I have hardware slowdowns with the 2.6 kernel and am testing 2.4.
[08:56] <ompaul> hbweb500, then use breezy
[08:56] <ompaul> hbweb500, then use or hoary
[08:56] <Seveas> h3sp4wn, then you need to use an explicit cast
[08:57] <cryptic> lol
[08:57] <Seveas> ompaul, even warty used 2.6
[08:57] <cryptic> im using hoary
[08:57] <Cornellius> Why is it so slow when copying files from CD/DVD to HD on Ubuntu ? On Windows it takes one minute or two.
[08:57] <hbweb500> Sweet, more downloading.
[08:57] <cryptic> waiting for my new delivery :)
[08:57] <ompaul> Seveas, aye
[08:57] <ompaul> but we could choose that bad one
[08:57] <Seveas> NO Ubuntu versions can use a 2.4 kernel without lots of userland hacking
[08:57] <ompaul> ahh
[08:57] <__mikem> Seveas, do you have any programming experience?
[08:57] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: it might be faster to wait for the download
[08:57] <ompaul> hbweb500, seems you want to be in #debian
[08:57] <bleaked> Znortfl: but look into rockbox: supports pretty much every format (ogg/flac/mp3/etc), gapless playback (the apple firmware skips in between tracks), crossfading, games, skins, and so much more.  by default, you install it as a dual-boot, but eventually i found myself never using the apple firmware, so i dumped it, gained 65MB, and reduced boot time down to about 1 second.  now i can play all of my oggs on my nano :D
[08:57] <cryptic> Hexidigital_,  i cant
[08:57] <bobcat190> man it frezzes when i try to install ubuntu...plz help
[08:57] <cryptic> in south africa
[08:57] <Seveas> __mikem, it's what earns me my dinner
[08:58] <Hexidigital_> cryptic:: ah
[08:58] <cryptic> we have sh*T capping
[08:58] <cryptic> :(
[08:58] <riddlebox> __mikem, I like to sit too and pick stuff up, its fun to play games though
[08:58] <hbweb500> ompaul: If debian worked on my system without days of hacking...
[08:58] <cryptic> we need a really good and cheap ISP in SA
[08:58] <wastrel> Seveas:  why are there 2.4 kernel image packages in dapper repos then?
[08:58] <nicktk1> cool im back
[08:58] <Seveas> wastrel, imports from debian
[08:58] <ompaul> cryptic, do some really restricted torrenting
[08:58] <__mikem> I do programming for a hobby, mostly in C/C++/x86 Assembly
[08:58] <thechris> i guess scp will just have to suffice.  it would have been nice if nfs had worked, but then again ubuntu just has quirks.
[08:58] <cromo> I get segmentation fault when using apt-build --remove-builddep
[08:58] <Znortfl> bleaked: How do I tell AmaroK to contact the ipod?
[08:58] <cromo> anyonce can confirm plrease?
[08:58] <Seveas> wastrel, it's one of the things that should be fixed in the import mechanism 
[08:59] <riddlebox> __mikem, you do any python programming?
[08:59] <nicktk1> hey i have 2 hardrives on my computer can one run linux and the other windows?
[08:59] <cryptic> ompaul, i have an older bro, who runs a IT support company from home
[08:59] <cryptic> if i cap us
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> nicktk1:: yes
[08:59] <__mikem> riddlebox, I havn't have time to learn it, I heard its a nice language though
[08:59] <cryptic> and he cannot use remote desktop etc
[08:59] <nicktk1> cool
[08:59] <cryptic> i will die :(
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> !dualboot > nicktk1
[08:59] <Hexidigital_> nicktk1:: check your pm from ubotu
[08:59] <ompaul> cryptic, then go to shipit.ubuntu.com or your nearest freedom toaster
[08:59] <mikeLaptop> :)
[09:00] <cryptic> lol yea ompaul i said i was waiting for it
[09:00] <please> still nothing wastrel
[09:00] <joeDapper1> hi, is there a really easy way to x.org to detect the all display resolutions automatically, so you dont have to mess around with the x config file?
[09:00] <cryptic> removing apache is not working :(
[09:00] <nicktk1> cool thanks
[09:00] <bleaked> Znortfl: not sure, might need to be mounted.  in kde, it's autodetected by the kio-slave, and amarok asks you if you want to use the device.  i think you'll have to manually mount /dev/sda2, and tell amarok it's there.
[09:00] <ompaul> cryptic, well a freedom toaster would do it it for you
[09:00] <wastrel> please:  sorry i dunno - maybe someone else can help.
[09:00] <cryptic> im at the part where u have to do that dam config :(
[09:00] <Hexidigital_> freedom toaster?
[09:00] <wastrel> freedom toaster!
[09:00] <cryptic> yea im with Hexidigital_ im confused
[09:01] <wastrel> freedom toasters are kiosks that burn ubuntu disks
[09:01] <Znortfl> bleaked, how do I tell amaroK that it's there, sorry im sucha complete newb
[09:01] <please> dose any body now about partitions on one disk
[09:01] <ompaul> Hexidigital_, I usually dont say google but that is so cool do it that way - it is really cool
[09:01] <cryptic> ok
[09:01] <cryptic> u get those in SA?
[09:01] <The_Oatman> Hello, I recently installed a package through synaptic while trying to get a parallel port scanner to work (kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6) and I think it killed my sound completely. How can I repair this damage without reinstalling?
[09:01] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS temporaraly
[09:01] <ompaul> cryptic, yes
[09:01] <Hexidigital_> hey, i have a question... is Amazon.com allowed to SELL the Ubuntu distros?
[09:01] <The_Oatman> yes
[09:02] <bleaked> Hexidigital_: and so are you
[09:02] <Minty> logged by error, anyone hep me with  my win partition, but cannot get it to mount in the 'computer', have tied this http://pastebin.ca/73330  but to no avail
[09:02] <Znortfl> bleaked: I have found the screen that asks for the mount command, but the ipod is automatically mounted, so it doesnt need to be mounted
[09:02] <riddlebox> __mikem, I am trying to learn c++ but learning it on my own is proving to be harder than I thought
[09:02] <ardchoille> Hexidigital_: anyone can sell Ubuntu distros for a reasonable cost of the media+labour
[09:03] <Hexidigital_> yes, but these look like shipit cd's
[09:03] <BCK14> how do see what ports are connected to what servers ?
[09:03] <__mikem> riddlebox, I tought myself assembly language on my own, trust me, you can do it. Just remember to do A LOT of reading.
[09:03] <guimMac> hi all, i am using a laptop powerbook g4 and face some problem : i want to use another screen (actually a beamer) and even if i connect it before i switch on the mac, it doesn't work
[09:03] <Sivik> ok, why isn't xdm starting?
[09:03] <Slike> BCK14: netstat ?
[09:03] <riddlebox> __mikem, and alot of practice
[09:03] <ardchoille> Hexidigital_: URL?
[09:03] <guimMac> anyone could help on that?
[09:03] <cryptic> riddlebox, have u done any othere languages apart from C++?
[09:03] <Hexidigital_> ardchoille:: hang on
[09:03] <__mikem> riddlebox, after a while the language will become second nature
[09:03] <Sivik> it says starting x display manager: xdm but then it goes back to console
[09:04] <bleaked> Znortfl: if it's already mounted, i believe amarok should find it, or you should be able to point it to it..
[09:04] <__mikem> for instance, I can usually get my programs to compile on the first try (even relatively complex ones), but it took a lot of practice
[09:04] <guimMac> all i get on the connected screen (whatever it is) is a white screen
[09:04] <GigaClon> how can I disable OSS temporarily
[09:04] <Starl1ng> Oh, my godness.... I choosed to install KDE....and it includes 353 packages (!!??!) ... I also install 9wm at the same time. :) Feels a bit weird...
[09:04] <Hexidigital_> ardchoille:: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62IDU/qid=1151435039/sr=8-4/ref=pd_bbs_4/103-6478412-1359805?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance&n=229534
[09:04] <__mikem> that is a long url
[09:04] <guimMac> sounds like the blue screen of windows :)
[09:04] <Hexidigital_> __mikem:: heh
[09:04] <guimMac> but white, as a mac
[09:04] <guimMac> :)
[09:04] <GigaClon> www.tinyurl.com
[09:04] <nicktk1> umm and when i burn to a cd to i keep it as a rar file or do i extrct to a cd?
[09:05] <bleaked> Znortfl: i really can't help you now though..i just b0rked my system, and i'm stuck in a recovery shell and really should focus on that instead of assisting people w/ their ipods..but later though, i'd be happy to help..
[09:05] <Hexidigital_> !iso
[09:05] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:05] <Hexidigital_> whoops... wrong one
[09:05] <bleaked> Znortfl: sorry.. :\
[09:05] <Znortfl> bleaked: I understand, this is more important ofc ;)
[09:05] <__mikem> riddlebox, do you know how to program in C?
[09:05] <riddlebox> cryptic, I barely know python, I am trying to learn c++
[09:05] <guimMac> anyone could give at least a place to find info about  that?
[09:05] <BCK14> Slike: how can i see what ports are connected to an address?
[09:05] <The_Oatman> geez it seems sound issues are very hard to fix in linux
[09:06] <BCK14> an ip even
[09:06] <mwiggins> okay this is f***ed, rebooted my computer this morning, and my sound is no longer working correctly, driver loads fine, programs can play to it just fine, mixer inputs are all unmuted and normal
[09:06] <cryptic> well riddlebox im in gr 11 and doing java
[09:06] <mwiggins> but ANO audio is coming out
[09:06] <cryptic> its pretty simple to pick up languages
[09:06] <cryptic> once u have the basic idea of programming
[09:06] <mwiggins> using dapper, anyone have any idea why this would be?
[09:06] <__mikem> please DON'T start him in java, java presents to many opertunities to develop bad habits
[09:06] <cryptic> they all do about the same thing just diffrent ways of doing them :)
[09:06] <guimMac> someone uses a mac here?
[09:06] <BCK14> how can i see what ports are connected to an address?
[09:06] <guimMac> with ubuntu ?
[09:06] <cryptic> dont worry man if u know 1 its gets easyer :)
[09:06] <wastrel> java eh
[09:06] <wastrel> it's the language of the future
[09:07] <__mikem> riddlebox, don't start in java, you will pick up bad habits what will make learning C/C++ even more of a monster
[09:07] <riddlebox> guimMac, you can try www.linuxactionshow.com they use ubuntu on macs
[09:07] <cryptic> why __mikem
[09:07] <cryptic> ???
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> hey what sync apps exists for gnome to sync my pakm tungsten?
[09:07] <Hexidigital_> __mikem:: what do you suggest a good starting language to be?
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> Palm sync apps
[09:07] <guimMac> riddlebox, thx i take a look
[09:07] <Ackeubu_> I need to do a wifi sync from Palm tungsten
[09:07] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  jpilot, gnome-pilot
[09:07] <cryptic> what bad habbits would u be refering to __mikem ?
[09:07] <__mikem> Hexidigital_ I recomend starting someone off in C
[09:07] <Sivik> how do i make xdm the default display manager?
[09:07] <riddlebox> python was easy for me to pick up, but I want to create c packages
[09:08] <wastrel> python eh.
[09:08] <__mikem> cryptic for instance writing classes around absolutely everything even when doing so entails performance issues
[09:08] <Ackeubu_> wastrel which one would you recommend for wifi sync?
[09:08] <cryptic> hmm
[09:08] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  i guess gnome pilot would work - use evolution as the desktop software
[09:08] <cryptic> i have looked at C# tut's
[09:08] <cromo> anyonce can please check if apt-build --remove-builddep whatever causes segfault?
[09:08] <__mikem> theres also misrepresentation of the idea of an object, for instance javas constant use of classes around gui controls often leads to bad interpretations on what an object actually is
[09:08] <BCK14> how can i see what a ports is connected to?
[09:08] <wastrel> i need to learn python
[09:08] <cryptic> i dont get C#
[09:08] <Starl1ng> BCK14: Try "netstat" or "netstat -n" if you don't want to do DNS-lookup's (this is much quicker).
[09:08] <BCK14> ij
[09:08] <BCK14> ok
[09:08] <cryptic> but im going to look at some C++ ones soon :)
[09:08] <__mikem> cryptic shal I go on
[09:09] <wastrel> C is best to start
[09:09] <wastrel> totally
[09:09] <__mikem> thankyou
[09:09] <cryptic> HMM
[09:09] <cryptic> soz for caps
[09:09] <seamoon> Anyone wanna help me with what to write in fstab to mount a partition at startup?
[09:09] <__mikem> Learn C first, then c++, once you do, you don't need to learn java because you pretymuch already know it
[09:09] <cryptic> stupid laptop, not used to the keys :)
[09:09] <cryptic> hehe
[09:09] <jcat> Don't listen to other people who are trying to say goto is a bad command.
[09:09] <yacek> I would like to install some program, but firstly I would like to know its version, how can I check that?
[09:09] <cryptic> but seriously C# is jibberish to me for some reason
[09:09] <shwag> how do I set services to load at startup ?
[09:09] <__mikem> cryptic, c# is supposed to be a terse language
[09:10] <cryptic> !define terse
[09:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about define terse
[09:10] <cryptic> aww no define
[09:10] <cryptic> terse = easy?
[09:10] <riddlebox> __mikem, I started with python and then jumped to c++, maybe I should go down to c
[09:10] <cryptic> simple to understand its logic?
[09:10] <__mikem> terse is not verbose
[09:10] <Starl1ng> BCK14: You could also try to pipe it to less "netstat | less", all the interesting network stuff is at the top of the output.
[09:10] <__mikem> riddlebox, start with C
[09:10] <BCK14> ok
[09:10] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: I know this is from a while ago, but it turns out that I _do_ have wpasupplicant installed
[09:10] <soundray> shwag: depends on the service. Most are setup to load on startup by default.
[09:10] <cryptic> __mikem, is there any C# tut u would recommend?
[09:10] <wastrel> riddlebox:  start with C
[09:11] <jcat> Would someone mind helping me with ubuntu?
[09:11] <Sivik> why isn't there anything in my home folders
[09:11] <gepatino> i'm trying to modify initrd.gz in dapper desktop cd, need some help, please
[09:11] <__mikem> yes, Microsoft C#.net step by step is good, but you will need to cough up for it
[09:11] <wastrel> state your problem
[09:11] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: still, though, I would like to force the use of the orinoco_cs driver. Do you know how I can do that?
[09:11] <shwag> soundray, how about after a   sudo apt-get install openssh-server   ?  is that set to load at startup now ?
[09:11] <Sivik> how does one run nvclock gui?
[09:11] <cryptic> __mikem, didnt they make some features of there C# free>
[09:11] <seamoon> I have a partition on another drive (sata) that I want to have mounted on every startup with writepermission, anyone knows what to write in fstab?
[09:11] <Ackeubu_> how would i start gnome-pilot cant find it in the menus and it will not run with gnome-pilot in the terminal
[09:11] <soundray> shwag: yes. Test with ssh localhost
[09:11] <rixxon> what does 'gpg --encrypt' do? for me it just dumps some binary data.
[09:11] <cryptic> like microsoft's C# editor is free now
[09:11] <yacek> I would like to install some program, but firstly I would like to know its version, how can I check that?
[09:12] <riddlebox> jcat, what do you need help with
[09:12] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  it's actually a gnome applet, add the gnome pilot applet to your gnome panel
[09:12] <cryptic> yacek, look for a read me file
[09:12] <cryptic> ????
[09:12] <__mikem> cryptic not sure what you mean. Microsoft is providing the visual studio express edition products free for one year after they were released, that should be over real soon though
[09:12] <joeDapper1> does the x11 server use sockets or library calls when using local windowed apps ??
[09:12] <Ackeubu_> wastrel ooh
[09:12] <cryptic> readme's normally list it
[09:12] <shwag> soundray, I know it started the service after the install...but I dont know if the service will again be started after the next reboot.
[09:12] <gepatino> i can't make a modified initrd.gz work, and i'm only modifing default user name
[09:12] <cryptic> they are downloadable atm
[09:12] <soundray> shwag: it will.
[09:12] <cryptic> i found a link on www.runuo.com
[09:12] <jcat> >.> I've had ubuntu for all of a few days. I don't know how to install packages I've downloaded, or why my other drive can't be recognized (I have a small win partition, and a large data partition).
[09:12] <cryptic> to download them
[09:12] <__mikem> I don't know, you can look at, http://msdn.microsoft.com
[09:12] <nicktk1> ok so im assuming the iso will run atomaticaly?
[09:12] <seamoon> I have a partition on another drive (sata) that I want to have mounted on every startup with writepermission, anyone knows what to write in fstab?
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> <anderbubble: Try setting it up as specified in /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes if it doesn't work then I will tell you how to change it (Probably the reason that driver is used is because its better - orinoco is a very common card)
[09:13] <__mikem> I don't know of any that will work on linux though
[09:13] <soundray> shwag: install bum (no joke) to see/configure what services are loaded at boot.
[09:13] <soundray> !info bum
[09:13] <ubotu> bum: graphical runlevel editor. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.1.5-1build1 (dapper), package size 74 kB, installed size 484 kB
[09:13] <yacek> but I would like to install it using apt-get, so how can I check the program version?
[09:13] <cryptic> yea
[09:13] <soundray> yacek: apt-cache policy packagename
[09:13] <cryptic> any way __mikem since i agree with what ure saying
[09:13] <cryptic> what is the nicest tut u could link me 2 :)
[09:13] <riddlebox> jcat, what do you mean you down know how to install packages? what type are they? *.gz *.deb???
[09:13] <anderbubble> h3sp4wn: ok. thanks for your help
[09:13] <__mikem> cryptic you mean what I said about bad habits?
[09:13] <rixxon> how can i encrypt stdout with gpg? (for piping)
[09:14] <cryptic> well everything
[09:14] <cryptic> bad habits
[09:14] <cryptic> that its a better langugae
[09:14] <__mikem> well thank you
[09:14] <cryptic> best for begginers etc
[09:14] <wastrel> what's a better language?
[09:14] <cryptic> it is better then java
[09:14] <Ackeubu_> wastrel i started pilot applet and pressed network sync from my palm and it sayd sync complete. it cant be that simple!!?.
[09:14] <wildman> cryptic: don't start a A is better than B war...
[09:14] <cryptic> wastrel, C is better then java
[09:14] <cryptic> :)
[09:14] <wildman> cryptic: it's useless ;)
[09:15] <cryptic> LOL
[09:15] <wastrel> Ackeubu_:  i dunno - open up evolution and see if your data's there :] 
[09:15] <cryptic> but its a known fact imho
[09:15] <jcat> .*gz   This is my second day actually running ubuntu, and linux in general.
[09:15] <wildman> cryptic: all langs have it's good and bad things, as pretty much everything else in this world ;)
[09:15] <cryptic> ok
[09:15] <rixxon> cryptic: you can't compare C and Java, so don't.
[09:15] <wildman> cryptic: it's just a matter of using "the right tool for the job"
[09:15] <__mikem> THe only reason to bother with java is because you can make good money as a java programmer
[09:15] <The_Oatman> Hello, I recently installed a package through synaptic while trying to get a parallel port scanner to work (kernel-patch-ppscsi-2.6) and I think it killed my sound completely. Does anybody know how can I repair this damage without reinstalling?
[09:15] <gepatino> i need to know how to properly package a new initrd.gz to make a custom ubuntu live cd
[09:15] <rixxon> cryptic: also, this channel is not meant for language war / similar.
[09:15] <Minty__> anyone know hot to add a dictionaire to eveolution ??
[09:15] <__mikem> java was more comperable to C when it supported pointers
[09:16] <cryptic> bwahaha
[09:16] <__mikem> they actually have basic compilers that can generate code that runs about as fast as C generated code
[09:16] <cryptic> a simple comment and everyone starts tuning me
[09:16] <cryptic> :)
[09:16] <__mikem> like freebasic for example
[09:16] <cryptic> OK
[09:16] <cryptic> moving past that
[09:16] <rixxon> cryptic: perhaps, because it is against the rules of this channel
[09:16] <cryptic> what is the best C# tut
[09:16] <wildman> not to mention useless ;)
[09:16] <riddlebox> jcat, there is this wonderful tool in ubuntu called apt-get, I will try to get you a tutorial on it
[09:17] <rixxon> cryptic: try ##csharp for such a question
[09:17] <wildman> The_Oatman: euh... stupid question: did you reboot after installing that kernel thing'
[09:17] <wildman> thing? I mean,
[09:17] <ompaul> cryptic, go to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue that line  that is not a support question thanks
[09:17] <__mikem> riddlebox, one thing that would help is for you to study the source code that comes with some of the open source software, its well commented, and should be good for you
[09:17] <cryptic> im not asking a question to every one...
[09:17] <jcat> I would appreciate any tutorials you could give me.
[09:17] <cryptic> im just asking to __mikem  in general
[09:18] <wildman> cryptic: if you both have registered nicknames, you can chat in private w/o 'disturbing' the rest of the ppl here... just a thought...
[09:18] <jcat> I'm wanting to figure things out without breaking ubuntu like I did with xp.
[09:18] <wildman> cryptic: "/query nickname" might be your friend ;)
[09:18] <wastrel> you can use #ubuntu-offtopic  :] 
[09:19] <cryptic> ...
[09:19] <wastrel> jcat:  check wiki.ubuntu.com  there's a lot of documentation there.
[09:19] <thompa> ive tried everything and cant disable touchpad
[09:19] <wastrel> thompa:  synaptics?
[09:19] <__mikem> cryptic, if you want, I can talk to you dirrectly in a private chat
[09:19] <cberlo> Hi folks.  I'm trying to get winbind authentication working on a newly-installed Edubuntu LTSP server (and yes, I'm querying the Edubuntu channel at present also).  Does anyone know how to get null passwords to work with GDM and/or LDM?
[09:20] <riddlebox> jcat, this is a good start http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[09:20] <Raul654> Question - I know the package (of a well known application) in the official repositories is outdated and has a number of known security holes
[09:20] <Tom7e> can anyone tell me how to make windows default on grub?
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: do you mean qsynaptics?
[09:20] <Raul654> is there someone to report that to?
[09:20] <wastrel> thompa:  i mean is it a synaptics touchpad
[09:20] <wildman> Tom7e: by editing /boot/grub/menu.lst IIRC
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: yes
[09:20] <athum> hi
[09:20] <cryptic> __mikem, dont worry, i know how to double click, use query or just type /msg nick...
[09:20] !lilo:*! Hi all. If you have special modes on your client, you may experience some temporary disruption. If so, we'll try to get it fixed as quickly as possible.
[09:20] <thompa> wastrel: i added kbindings but they dont work either
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> Can anyone explain http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add.2Fedit.2Fdelete_network_users to me.. what does system_username = "network username" mean
[09:21] <Raul654> anyone?
[09:21] <__mikem> ok, If you like I can walk you through a few assembly language programs to if you are feeling really adventerous
[09:21] <FeestBijtje> what is windows
[09:21] <riddlebox> jcat, I believe there is a wealth of stuff for you in that link :)
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> is system_username = scorpmoon?
[09:21] <kimo> guys, I'm stuck with Live CD, which is super slow on my 128MB machine :( Anyway I can start a text installer from that? (rescue mode?)
[09:21] <thompa> i mean xbindkeys
[09:21] <Scorpmoon> and where do I write the password
[09:21] <CarlFK> trying to print to an win2k print share.  works from my breezy -> dapper box, but not my 5 day old dapper install jobs just sit in the queue.  status says "Printing: Gutenprint Ready to print."
[09:21] <riddlebox> FeestBijtje, windows are holes in your house that have glass panes in them to allow a person to look out
[09:21] <thompa> wastrel: it seems its not possible to disable, so im wondering what else is controlling it
[09:21] <soundray> !tell Raul654 about launchpad
[09:21] <cryptic> nah dont worry __mikem
[09:22] <FeestBijtje> !tell riddlebox google
[09:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell riddlebox google
[09:22] <Frem> Hey, my dmesg output keeps printing out " VFS: busy inodes on changed media." over and over again. I looked at the System Log viewer, the message is still being printed. What does it mean?
[09:22] <Cyorxamp> If I have a MPEG4 movie and it uses OGG and XviD - will it play when ubuntu is first installed ?!
[09:22] <FeestBijtje> riddlebox, what is windows xp
[09:22] <wastrel> thompa:  i'm looking for the instructions i had for this in breezy ... :] 
[09:22] <__mikem> FeestBijtje, I must give fare warning that the ops will deal with monkeyshines swiftly and brutally
[09:23] <riddlebox> jcat, if you need a quick way to get going though, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_apt-get_the_easy_way_.28Synaptic.29
[09:23] <thompa> wastrel: ive tried these http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143095
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, okay il stop smoking pot
[09:23] <soundray> Frem: you've probably removed a drive without unmounting/ejecting it.
[09:23] <__mikem> thats probably a good idea
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> I agree it makes me anoying
[09:23] <Cyorxamp> If I have a MPEG4 movie and it uses OGG and XviD - will it play when ubuntu is first installed ?!
[09:23] <thompa> wastrel: ive tried qsynaptics and every other method, its hopeless
[09:23] <cryptic> FeestBijtje, do u even know what linux is? or are u just one of those guys that goes round to be annoying :(
[09:23] <Scorpmoon> i cant figure how to share printers to windows
[09:23] <FeestBijtje> cryptic, i use linux doh
[09:24] <Ng> Cyorxamp: the ogg bit will, but the xvid may well need extra codecs to be installed
[09:24] <__mikem> I wonder how I would apply for an ops account in this chanel? I am sure my record of conduct is exemplary enough
[09:24] <jcat> Thank you for the links. I'm sorry that I'm so inexperienced right now, but I need to start somewhere eventually.
[09:24] <riddlebox> FeestBijtje, windows xp just means the windows for extra people to look out of then :)
[09:24] <Scorpmoon> when I log on to the ubuntu machine a password dialog pops up
[09:24] <thompa> if i comment out synaptics stuff no startx either
[09:24] <Frem> soundray, Ubuntu automatically mounts/unmounts things.
[09:24] <Stormx2> Hey everyone I'm back
[09:24] <Scorpmoon> i tried the root user
[09:24] <FeestBijtje> lol @ riddlebox
[09:24] <__mikem> someone who knows linux but DOESN'T know windows is rarer than a dinosour bone
[09:24] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable?
[09:24] <arapehl> hey
[09:24] <Cyorxamp> Ng... XviD is an open source project... does anyone in here know if Ubuntu comes with XviD support?!
[09:24] <arapehl> question from a noob
[09:24] <__mikem> !ask
[09:24] <soundray> Frem: no, it doesn't. You have to unmount removable devices before you unplug them.
[09:24] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:24] <wastrel> thompa:  what i did was set the MaxTapTime  parameter to 0, which turns off taps
[09:24] <cryptic> __mikem, but u do actually find dinosuar bones :)
[09:24] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, true my dad uses windows :S it makes my bum ichy
[09:25] <wastrel> thompa:  sorry that's different :] 
[09:25] <Ng> Cyorxamp: afaik the format is patent encumbered. there is a codec in multiverse, but that means it won't be installed by default
[09:25] <Ng> !restrictedformats > Cyorxamp
[09:25] <__mikem> cryptic, not really
[09:25] <arapehl> I've burned the 6.06 image to a CD, and it boots up to the main menu but won't go further, it gives me an I/O error... further tries gives me "isolinux Disk error 80, AX=4200, drive 9F"
[09:25] <arapehl> Any clues?
[09:25] <Cyorxamp> !restrictedformats > Cyorxamp
[09:25] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:25] <FeestBijtje> arapehl, you got the wrong disk?
[09:25] <arapehl> Oh, and I'm on an old PII 300Mhz
[09:26] <thompa> wastrel: i get.. line 4: synclient: command not found sif i run xbindkey
[09:26] <riddlebox> hrmm this needs to be in the topic http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper it is real useful
[09:26] <oskude> arapehl, did you try the "check cd" option in the cd at boot ? (to test that the cd is ok=
[09:26] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[09:26] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:26] <__mikem> arapehl don't listen to FeestBijtje he is a troll
[09:26] <thompa> wastrel: thats ok, im going to keep searching, ubuntu is hiding something
[09:26] <cromo> anyonce can please check if apt-build --remove-builddep whatever_package causes segfault?
[09:27] <arapehl> The first time I didn't "check CD", second time around I did, but the same thing happened... the Image I'm using is : ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[09:27] <barongas> Sound not working when playing flash movies, using esd... which works fine with mp3 and movies in general. Any ideas?
[09:27] <riddlebox> soundray, it seems that is has been updated, for dapper
[09:27] <arapehl> oskude: yeah, it gives me the same problem.
[09:27] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:27] <FeestBijtje> __mikem, i aint a troll i am just anoying today
[09:27] <Aeo> Can I access files on an NTFS partition through Ubuntu?
[09:27] <oskude> arapehl, hmm ? did the "check cd" say that the cd is ok or not ?
[09:27] <ompaul> FeestBijtje, well don't be annoying
[09:27] <cryptic> hmm
[09:27] <__mikem> FeestBijtje, stop being annoying now. Such conduct is frowned upon
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> Aeo:
[09:28] <arapehl> I don't know if it's maybe that my CD drive sucks? I burned it on a different drive though (does it remember the drive it was burned on and expect to be booted off the same one?)
[09:28] <barongas> Aeo, access yes, write no
[09:28] <__mikem> ompaul, if I wanted to apply to become an op in this room, what would I need to do
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> ubotu: tell Aeo !ntfs
[09:28] <cryptic> would it be possible to hack my windows XP machine, just cause im 2 lasy to go get my password for my regged nick?
[09:28] <arapehl> oskude: the cd check gives me the same IO error and asks to reboot.
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> !ntfs
[09:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:28] <cryptic> reason i would need to get there to get it is cause random chars make the best passes :)?
[09:28] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:28] <__mikem> hypotheticly I mean
[09:28] <riddlebox> Ubuntubabe, I
[09:28] <soundray> riddlebox: whoever created ubuntuguide didn't show much respect for users in the past by dishing out dangerous advice. I don't have any reason to believe that their resources can be trusted, just because it's been updated.
[09:28] <oskude> arapehl, no. but if you burn with to high speed, and the old cdrom drive is slower than with you burned it, could be that you get problems with the old drive...
[09:28] <riddlebox> am not sure
[09:29] <arapehl> oh!
[09:29] <Ng> !ubuntuguide
[09:29] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:29] <riddlebox> soundray, I did not know that, I will look through it and see
[09:29] <oskude> arapehl, i allways burn bootable images with maximum speed of x8
[09:29] <arapehl> oskude: I burned it at 8x and my drive is supposed to be a 36x (old one though)
[09:29] <Frem> soundray, Ok, i'm confused. In pretty much every Linux distro, when a cdrom is mounted, the drive is locked shut until unmount. In Ubuntu, the cdrom drive door is not locked, I don't get an error when I eject, any file windows open automatically close, and the cdrom icon disappears off the desktop, AND it's automatically removed from the list of mounted drives.
[09:29] <gullstad_> !itunes
[09:29] <ubotu> itunes is not available on Linux, but there are many audio player alternatives (see !players). For Daap clients (sharing music with other iTunes clients on the network), install banshee
[09:29] <gullstad_> !players
[09:29] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[09:29] <oskude> arapehl, ok, so that shouldn be the problem... hmm, did you do an md5sum on the image ?
[09:30] <arapehl> I could try and slow it down some... maybe even go with 2x... what do you think?
[09:30] <gullstad_> What mediaplayers can tranfer to linux?
[09:30] <ompaul> __mikem, please read the message
[09:30] <oskude> arapehl, i doubt the burn speed is the problem here..
[09:30] <soundray> Frem: the error you report seems to refer to a writable device, not a CD.
[09:30] <__mikem> ompaul :)
[09:30] <barongas> I hear that there is a trade-off with dapper and flash in firefox that you can choose firefox stability or flash sound. Anyone been down that road and came back alive?
[09:31] <arapehl> oskude: heh, uhm, like I said, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this. I set the burning software (easy cd creator) to check the CD and then burn. I'm guessing that's not what you mean though huh?
[09:31] <riddlebox> gullstad, my rio is just seen as a usb thumbdrive basically, I just drap and drop files on it
[09:31] <oskude> arapehl, i dont know how to check md5sum on windows... hmm
[09:31] <Aeo> Thanks Ubuntbabe!
[09:31] <riddlebox> oskude, I believe there is a small app to do it
[09:31] <soundray> barongas: I think what you say was once true, but doesn't apply to the recent release.
[09:32] <gullstad_> riddlebox: Whit iTunes you probly need a program to get the music into the libary.
[09:32] <Mastastealth> anyone else having issues with the latest update regarding Nvidia acceleration
[09:32] <lamego> oskude, google.com, there is an md5.exe for windows
[09:32] <oskude> arapehl, on the server where you got the image is a same named .md5 file that has the md5 checksum number that you need to compare, sec
[09:32] <Sivik> why is xterm saying xterm: DISPLAY is not set
[09:32] <barongas> soundray, ok. I installed flash with a nifty app called easyubuntu, maybe it dropped me something old... Gonna mess around with apt and see what comes up
[09:32] <arapehl> Hmmm
[09:33] <oskude> arapehl, did you read this ? ;) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[09:33] <cromo> 1/lv
[09:33] <riddlebox> gullstad, there is gtkpod and sharpmusique or something like that
[09:33] <soundray> barongas: I installed flash on all my i386 machines using Easyubuntu. Never had any troubles with sound or otherwise.
[09:33] <Sivik> nickrud, you around?
[09:33] <arapehl> oskude: heh, no. that would have required me to have a little less of an ego... "me? read docs? never!" ;)
[09:34] <asand> has anyone installed openoffice.org on 6.06 ?
[09:34] <oskude> arapehl, the md5 checksum number is used to verify that the download process went ok, means that you have the _exact_ same file as on the server
[09:34] <userundefine> Yes
[09:34] <soundray> asand: yes
[09:34] <barongas> soundray, hmmm..
[09:34] <riddlebox> asand, it comes with it doesnt it?
[09:34] <asand> I've had some trouble
[09:34] <asand> well it is'nt there
[09:34] <riddlebox> asand, did you upgrade from breezy?
[09:34] <soundray> asand: did you install it from the repositories?
[09:34] <userundefine> barongas, soundray, someone having trouble with flash and no sound?
[09:34] <oskude> arapehl, and thats wat i *allways* do when i burn images...
[09:34] <cryptic> doesnt openoffice come standard with any ubuntu release...?
[09:34] <barongas> userundefine, yessir me that is!
[09:35] <Ng> cryptic: it should be in all of them
[09:35] <cryptic> yea
[09:35] <cryptic> any/all
[09:35] <asand> when I try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org it reports some broken packages
[09:35] <userundefine> barongas, have you tried this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[09:35] <oskude> arapehl, on linux it would just typing "md5sum file.name" :/
[09:35] <cryptic> openoffice is soo cool :)
[09:35] <asand> yes I upgraded for Breezy
[09:35] <cryptic> hmm
[09:35] <barongas> userundefine, no but will now
[09:35] <cryptic> i cant wait for my dapper to arrive
[09:35] <cryptic> new packages etc :)
[09:35] <userundefine> barongas, I just did it and it worked for me.  Working for a lot of people
[09:35] <Ng> asand: paste the reported errors to a pastebin
[09:35] <riddlebox> asand, I had the same problem, I opened up synaptic and selected the openoffice2.org package or something like that
[09:35] <Sivik> cryptic, why can you just get it from online instead of waiting for it to arrive
[09:35] <cryptic> should i format this hard-drive and reinstall dapper?
[09:35] <JaspaJones> heya ppl.
[09:36] <cryptic> Sivik, i cant download it, south africa
[09:36] <oskude> arapehl, but they could have an easier way/tool in here http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html :/
[09:36] <cryptic> we have some thing called capping
[09:36] <Sivik> cryptic, that sucks
[09:36] <cryptic> so i can only download 3 gig
[09:36] <cryptic> a month
[09:36] <wildman> cryptic: tx limiting sucks
[09:36] <arapehl> oskude: gah! the stupid mdhashtool firefox extension deosn't work b/c I'm on a newer version of FF!!
[09:36] <arapehl> *grumble*
[09:36] <cryptic> and we have already gone over our cap :(
[09:36] <userundefine> cryptic, sorry to hear that
[09:36] <JaspaJones> some1 there to help me with some network-problems?
[09:36] <cryptic> dude
[09:36] <cryptic> if some one
[09:36] <cryptic> can come to SA
[09:36] <cryptic> with a good ISP
[09:37] <cryptic> u will make millions
[09:37] <Ng> !enter
[09:37] <oskude> arapehl, lol, you got 2.0beta or so ?
[09:37] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:37] <wildman> cryptic: do you have access, if available already, to something similar to a beverage expending machine, but for FLOSS CDs?
[09:37] <asand> i've tracked the errors down to the openoffice.org-core-experimental
[09:37] <cryptic> lol ng
[09:37] <wildman> cryptic: euh... freeburner, or something like that...
[09:37] <cryptic> u love to pwn that bot hey :)
[09:37] <asand> which apperently is'nt installable :/
[09:37] <cryptic> nope wildman we dont have such items in sa :(
[09:37] <cryptic> afaik
[09:37] <jjvvcc> hi, can anyone help me with gcc?
[09:37] <Ng> asand: are you running dapper?
[09:38] <wildman> cryptic: gimme 1' plz, they ARE in ZA ;)
[09:38] <asand> yep
[09:38] <Ng> jjvvcc: ask your question and find out :)
[09:38] <Ng> asand: that package doesn't appear to be in dapper. I'd check your apt sources
[09:38] <alterr> hello guys,  i'd like to get the linux-source 2.6.12-9, where to find it?
[09:38] <arapehl> oskude: nope, 1.5.x but the plugin only works for v1.0 it seems... anyway, there's a windows app further down the page I'll try out. You really think it's the checksum?  I boots up and gives me the menu where you select how you want to load ubuntu.
[09:38] <barongas> userundefine, thanks, works like a dream... or something...
[09:38] <asand> how would I do that?
[09:38] <userundefine> barongas, no problem.
[09:38] <oskude> arapehl, hmm, i see this link too http://downloads.mozdev.org/mdhashtool/mdhashtool-0.4dp.xpi (should be for 1.5beta1...)
[09:38] <jjvvcc> when i use .h at include, the compiler doesn't find the include, only when i put .c
[09:39] <wildman> jjvvcc: -I path_to_the_dir_containing_the_H_file
[09:39] <Ubuntbabe> hey, is stream ripping detectable or does it all happen within my lan?
[09:39] <wildman> jjvvcc: as a compile option to gcc
[09:39] <jjvvcc> but is at the same path
[09:39] <Ng> jjvvcc: are you doing #include <foo.h> or #include "foo.h"? also, this is a little offtopic for here ;)
[09:39] <yallaman> is there a mail-server i can use in ubuntu..that is easy to set up?
[09:39] <barongas> userundefine, hehe... actually I find the sound's out of sync :) hmmm
[09:39] <jjvvcc> Ng: ""
[09:39] <TheStudent> Hi all n00b here
[09:39] <Sivik> what is /dev/wacom?
[09:40] <Ng> jjvvcc: hmm, I would think that would work then
[09:40] <arapehl> oskude: says it will only work with 1.4 and I'm running 1.5.0.x... anyway, I'm getting this other app that should work.
[09:40] <Ng> Sivik: device node for a wacom tablet
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: me too.. :)
[09:40] <oskude> arapehl, roger
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: that's the problem
[09:40] <cryptic> wildman, looks like u were unsuccesfull?
[09:40] <__mikem> Ok, I am back. What did I miss
[09:40] <yallaman> is there a mail-server i can use in ubuntu..that is easy to set up?
[09:40] <Sivik> Ng: ok, how do i turn it off, it won't allow me to start the xserver because of it
[09:40] <jjvvcc> Ng: is there a # specific for developments?
[09:40] <riddlebox> yallaman, there are
[09:40] <wildman> cryptic: not yet, cannot remember the name of that very nice ZA thing...
[09:40] <athum> ok mam xfce:P
[09:40] <oskude> yeah, why is wacom _allways_ installed, none off my pcs had/have it :/
[09:40] <Ng> jjvvcc: I'm not sure, sorry
[09:40] <kalosaurusrex> if I'm getting an error 22 with grub, is there an easy way to fix this?
[09:40] <userundefine> barongas, I thought I noticed that too but only tried one video.  Seems about a halfsecond off to me, but it doesn't really bother me *that* much.  Hopefully it all gets fixed soon
[09:40] <Ng> oskude: the people who do have it are probably very happy that it's installed :)
[09:41] <wildman> cryptic: backed by the Mr. Shuttleworth
[09:41] <barongas> userundefine, cool
[09:41] <Ng> Sivik: are you getting an error?
[09:41] <cryptic> OH
[09:41] <wildman> cryptic: damn....  my memory is failing me :)
[09:41] <cryptic> shuttleworth
[09:41] <yallaman> riddlebox: got any advices?
[09:41] <cryptic> the first noob from SA in space
[09:41] <cryptic> umm
[09:41] <cryptic> hip to be 2
[09:41] <riddlebox> yallaman, give me a sec
[09:41] <Sivik> Ng: yes
[09:41] <cryptic> hib to be square
[09:41] <Sivik> Ng: Error opening /dev/wacom : No such file or directory
[09:41] <cryptic> that one wildman
[09:41] <cryptic> ?
[09:42] <cryptic> hib to be square?
[09:42] <yallaman> i would prefer a GUI version..if there is one
[09:42] <cryptic> hip*
[09:42] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:42] <Ng> Sivik: I expect you could remove the wacom entries from the xorg.conf
[09:42] <wildman> cryptic: yes, that very same guy ;)
[09:42] <cryptic> lol
[09:42] <cryptic> what about him>
[09:42] <Sivik> ok
[09:42] <cryptic> he gives out ubuntu cd'
[09:42] <cryptic> cd's*
[09:42] <daaku> anyone know how to use the cryptic dbus-send to send a notification to the gnome notification-daemon?
[09:42] <riddlebox> yallam, I am sure there are if you search, maybe look at exim4 I am not sure what it all does but I know it can send mail
[09:43] <cryptic> hello?
[09:43] <wildman> cryptic: not only that... I wish I could find the link....
[09:43] <cryptic> calling me?
[09:43] <halibut> Does anyone use Gmail + picasa (web) + firefox 1.5        thanks
[09:43] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:43] <wildman> halibut: gmail + ff1.5: yes, no picasa though
[09:43] <arapehl> oskude: stupid thing won't work... :-( I've got to run, be back later (thanks for the help so far though)
[09:44] <wildman> my ISP might be having DNS pbs cuz I cannot access 'half the web' :-|
[09:44] <oskude> arapehl, ok, np
[09:44] <cryptic> awww wildman
[09:44] <cryptic> got no access to the ZA sections?
[09:44] <TheStudent> I'm new to Ununtu and linux... fed up of MS so want a change... but this is doing my head in !
[09:44] <oskude> TheStudent, do you know where the file is ? have you tried to run it from that dir ?
[09:44] <yallaman> kk
[09:45] <TheStudent> yes I have tried
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: got it!
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: http://www.freedomtoaster.co.za/
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: there, good luck! ;)
[09:45] <pvd2006> What is a nice/clear/anti-aliased font for firefox?
[09:45] <TheStudent> its in the /usr/X11R6/bin/
[09:45] <cryptic> oh this
[09:45] <TheStudent> in there is all of the files
[09:45] <wildman> cryptic: dunno if they are all over ZA already.... but ;)
[09:45] <cryptic> i heared them talking about it earlyer
[09:45] <cryptic> well saw it
[09:45] <oskude> TheStudent, do you need that tool ? i had ati for 1 year and i never even heard about that tool :/
[09:45] <TheStudent> aticonfig... ffireglcontrolpanel etc..
[09:46] <TheStudent> well I cant configure the display without it
[09:46] <Sivik> Ng: now its telling me no screens found
[09:46] <cryptic> hey wildman
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: yes?
[09:46] <TheStudent> i'm stuck on 1024 x 768 @ 60 hz
[09:46] <cryptic> Canal Walk
[09:46] <cryptic> This Freedom Toaster does not offer DVD support
[09:46] <cryptic> Situated at the MTN ScienCentre (this is where it all started).
[09:46] <cryptic> no dvd
[09:46] <Ng> Sivik: could you post your xorg.conf to a pastebin?
[09:46] <Snurf> How do i install Macromedia Flash and the plugin for Firefox for flash
[09:46] <cryptic> but its like 30 mins walk from my house :)
[09:46] <Healot> !flash
[09:46] <Sivik> no
[09:46] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:46] <Sivik> cause i don't have gui
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: well... the world isn't perfect, is it?
[09:46] <wildman> cryptic: like I said, good luck! ;)
[09:47] <pvd2006> what is the package to get fonts like courier and courier-new?
[09:47] <oskude> TheStudent, i set those in /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (or with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[09:47] <Healot> follow those links, Snurf
[09:47] <Sivik> Ng: it says Fetal server error: no screens found
[09:47] <cryptic> but wildman
[09:47] <cryptic> its not perfect
[09:47] <Ng> Sivik: towards the end of /var/log/Xorg.0.log there will be a more useful error
[09:47] <cryptic> its in the "mtnsciencecentre"
[09:47] <ph4nt0m> can anyone tell me wether de.archive.ubuntu.com is down
[09:47] <TheStudent> and in plain english ? sorry total n00b here !
[09:47] <cryptic> its R50 entrance fee
[09:47] <cryptic> :(
[09:47] <ph4nt0m> cant make apt-get update
[09:47] <Sivik> Ng: a XIO error or an xauth error?
[09:47] <pvd2006> ph4nt0m, sudo apt-get update?
[09:48] <wildman> cryptic: well... one cannot have it all, can one?
[09:48] <daschu> hey everyone... i'm trying to repartition my HD, but the partitioning tool won't commit anything... it says that i need to unmount all the devices first... the tool in the system settings says that everything is unmounted though
[09:48] <oskude> ph4nt0m, doesnt work here neither atm, just wait a while
[09:48] <ph4nt0m> yes @pvd2006
[09:48] <cryptic> lol
[09:48] <daschu> any help?
[09:48] <Styles> anybody know of a program the will open adobe illustrator files? Is there a gimp plugin? Google is turning up squat.
[09:48] <cryptic> for R50 i could buy an extra gig of cap
[09:48] <cryptic> and download it :)
[09:48] <ph4nt0m> same within synaptic cant get updates
[09:48] <SixtyWatt> Hello, has anyone had an issue with their screen glitching when multiple applications are running?
[09:48] <cryptic> then not have to walk
[09:48] <cryptic> oh well ill see what i can do
[09:48] <SixtyWatt> I am using a flat panel LCD
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: XIO: fattal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[09:49] <pvd2006> synaptic is just a front-end for apt-get.
[09:49] <barongas> is mkfs.vfat =fat32?
[09:49] <Ng> Sivik: I'm not sure exactly without seeing it. If you want to get the config back to how it was you can do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:49] <Ng> Sivik: possibly a bit further before that
[09:49] <oskude> Styles, can illustrator save SVG, inscape and xaralx opens those...
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: xauth: error in locking authority file /home/name/.Xauthority
[09:49] <TheStudent> Guys.. I'm having problems with ATi Linux drivers despite following the ATi tutorial, when I try and run the control center it tells me that "fireglcontrolpanel" no such file or directory, although all of the files have been installed in the correct bin folder !
[09:49] <Sivik> Ng: thats the only error
[09:49] <gullstad_> What is a good alternative to iTunes, that work. Preferably.
[09:50] <cryptic> lol wildman
[09:50] <Styles> oskude: thank man
[09:50] <Ng> Sivik: hmm, perhaps try deleting that file and doing the dpkg-reconfigure - the error may not have been wacom after all
[09:50] <cryptic> there is a guide in the site 2 building one
[09:50] <cryptic> ....
[09:50] <Styles> forgot an s
[09:50] <Healot> sharpmusique, Gullstad?
[09:50] <userundefine> gullstad_, what are you looking for in a music app?
[09:50] <Healot> !find sharpmusique
[09:50] <ubotu> No packages matching 'sharpmusique' could be found
[09:50] <cryptic> any way
[09:50] <cryptic> time to go
[09:51] <ph4nt0m> i know - the security.... servers work but the de.archive.... not any help - misconfiguration - firewall - router any hints?
[09:51] <gullstad_> userundefine: I'm looking for something to tramsfer music form my computer to my iPod.
[09:51] <volt^warlock> Anyone know how to boost a (counter-strike) server's fps from 300 to 1000? I think its something with changing the HZ ? I'm using ubuntu server 5.10 breezy.
[09:51] <PORDO> does anyone here think shakira is attractive?
[09:51] <Healot> volt^warlock: buy a better graphics accelerator
[09:52] <B1zz> oooo me!
[09:52] <volt^warlock> Healot, "server's fps"
[09:52] <oskude> TheStudent, running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" is pretty newbie friendly program, if youre unsure what it asks, just take whats allready selected. tip: in the monitor settings select "medium" and it asks the default resolution in like "1024x768x75hz"
[09:52] <volt^warlock> not the game fps
[09:52] <Healot> and add more RAM and upgrade CPU...
[09:52] <Healot> for the server that is
[09:52] <Healot> or lower the resolution/color depth
[09:53] <userundefine> gullstad_, you might want to look at Listen (http://listengnome.free.fr/).  I don't have an iPod, but it supposedly has ipod support.  It's the amarok of GTK
[09:54] <asand> I've taken a look on my repositories but it still throws the same errors when I try to install openoffice.org
[09:54] <asand> especialy openoffice.org-core-experimental
[09:55] <daschu> can anyone help me understand why the partitioning tool won't commit my partition changes... it says to unmount the devices, but the disk tool in system settings says that none of the disks are mounted
[09:55] <finalbeta_> PORDO, I do, but you are in the wrong channel for that. this is support
[09:55] <barongas> daschu, what happens if you just type mount in terminal?
[09:55] <ph4nt0m> whats the best tv app for linux???
[09:56] <Healot> mythtv?
[09:56] <Seattle_Mike> Dapper Ubuntu, Kubuntu - I can not get nfs (client and server) working.  Is it possible or should I go back to Breezy where it works fine?
[09:57] <notrash> does anyone use a 3 Com 3c905x card
[09:57] <daschu> unionfs on / type unionfs (rw)
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: Are you mounting with -o nolock (otherwise it will take ages)
[09:57] <daschu> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> /sys on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> varlock on /var/lock type tmpfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> procbususb on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[09:57] <daschu> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> lol
[09:58] <daschu> sorry everyone... i'm new to linux AND irc
[09:58] <daschu> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[09:58] <daschu> devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> lrm on /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-powerpc/volatile type tmpfs (rw)
[09:58] <daschu> tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[09:58] <finalbeta_> stop
[09:58] <finalbeta_> check topic, paste things on a site
[09:58] <Seveas> !paste > daschu
[09:58] <_absolution_> how come I can't put a background image on fluxbox....
[09:59] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[09:59] <_absolution_> it keeps saying that "it doesn't find the files"
[09:59] <fates> hello everyone
[09:59] <_absolution_> or does anyone know a good site that'll teach me how to use "fluxbox"
[09:59] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn ... Good point I'll try that but after a long time it times out with Portmap not responding.
[10:00] <fates> i have a question  about frostwire...more of a predicament
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: If you don't use nolock you need portmap on both ends I think (But I don't remember)
[10:00] <notrash> does anyone use a 3com 3c905x network controller?
[10:01] <Healot> !nic
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about nic
[10:01] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn .. Yeah I've got portmap running ... I have a small home network and portmap runs on all.
[10:01] <daschu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16651
[10:01] <notrash> i mean the nic
[10:02] <Plouf> bonjour j'ai un pb de dmarage avec ubuntu 6.06 : il met 10 entre le chargement de /etc/rc.local et le lancemant des programme
[10:02] <_absolution_> where can I download "ndiswrapper"
[10:02] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: I just always use nolock these days if I have to use nfs but I prefer shfs most of the time
[10:02] <kbrooks> Hmmm
[10:02] <kbrooks> let's see
[10:02] <Healot> !fr
[10:02] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:02] <pvd2006> does ubuntu have problems with the Nvidia Vanta cards?
[10:02] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn OK my problem client  can mount no problem but I can't mount to it (i.e. it doesn't serve)
[10:02] <Plouf> sorry
[10:03] <Healot> Plouf: are you trying to put some startup entry into rc.local?
[10:03] <mdalek> hi, does anyone know if the bcm43xx driver supports ad-hoc or master modes?
[10:03] <Plouf> i don't see
[10:03] <Plouf> bie
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: I don't understand what you mean
[10:03] <h3sp4wn> mdaltek: No unless you use the experimental ones in the git repository
[10:03] <jeldert> wow, Ubuntu takes more space than I thought...
[10:04] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn -shfs .... OK you got me with shfs ... I never heard of it.  Repeat of my problem follows
[10:04] <jeldert> created a VM with 2GB hdd, and it's full already...
[10:04] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, so thats no ad-hoc :(
[10:04] <jeldert> can't even install all updates
[10:04] <kbrooks> Well, I'll admit it: EasyUbuntu is insecure if a user checks the option to keep EasyUbuntu's repo list
[10:04] <__mikem> I am trying to sign the coc on launch pad, and It keeps complaining about having no public key, whats going on
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: Only if you want very experimental code
[10:04] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: And build it yourself
[10:04] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn On one machine it can mount nfs no problem as a client, but it can't serve to other machines. OK?
[10:04] <paul__> I was wondering if anyone is having trouble when using the run command line from alt-F2 in which you get an error stating gnome panel has crashed.
[10:05] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, ok thnx
[10:05] <nateman1352> hi everyone, I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 and I'm trying to get remote X clients to connect to my local X server via ssh and I can't seem to get it working (I am using ssh -X)
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: And you has set /etc/exports the same as before yes ?
[10:05] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, none of the howto's specified this, i've been trying to get it to work for ages, and then i suddenly thought it may be the mode
[10:06] <h3sp4wn> mdalek: You have to run a really unstable development kernel to have a chance of it working
[10:06] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn Yes etc/exports was the same as Breezy  ... this boc was an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper.
[10:06] <mdalek> h3sp4wn, ok, no point then
[10:06] <__mikem> can someone help me with a problem signing the coc on launchpad?
[10:08] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn However: Dapper Install - same problem, can mount to server box but can't server itself.
[10:09] <gullstad_> Still no luck finding a good substitute to iTunes.
[10:09] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: You are trying to mount localhost over nfs ?
[10:09] <oogy> can someone help me out with CPU spikes?  My mouse skips across the screen, the computer freezes up, etc whenever i start programs that eat up memory and cpu (like firefox). i have a 2.0 p4 with 256 megs of ram on dapper
[10:09] <oogy> i hear imusic is decent
[10:10] <paul__> Where can you research imusic?
[10:10] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I use a mount 191.168.0.101:/ /media/server   ... not localhost is it?
[10:10] <oogy> imusic has a lot of indie labels on it
[10:11] <oogy> i dont think its drm
[10:11] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I'll try shfs but in the past ssh locally on the network was too slow - nfs speed is AOK.
[10:12] <__mikem> can someone help me with a problem signing the coc on launchpad? It keps saying "no public key"
[10:13] <arapehl> oskude: I've got an MD5 checker... the page I got the .iso from is: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/, I downloaded the "PC (Intel x86) desktop CD " under "Desktop CD"... I guess the MD5s are below?
[10:13] <__mikem> #gpg
[10:14] <__mikem> crap
[10:14] <neighborlee> using standard ubuntu CD , im trying to 'rescue' my system from having had to reinstall windows XP...rescue mode complains about error code 20, and going through regular installer via mounting / and telling it to install grub again also does not work but gives no error messae...any ideas how to get past this ?? ;)
[10:14] <QRZ> __mikem:  Have you generated a keypair for your user?
[10:14] <__mikem> Yes I did
[10:14] <__mikem> I used the defaultoption to generate the keypair
[10:15] <arapehl> oskude: checking MD5 now
[10:15] <Ro1> can someone help me? I used to use windows and connect to my wireless network...but now in ubuntu i also do yet it is so much slower,,anyone help?
[10:16] <QRZ> __mikem:  When you run, 'gpg --list-keys' at the command prompt, does it list your keypair?
[10:16] <Ng> anyone know if it's possibly to decrease the frequency at which network-manager scans for APs?
[10:17] <__mikem> It lists 3 keypairs all of which are owned by me. All of them are failed attempts to get this thing to accept something
[10:17] <Ro1> can someone help me? I used to use windows and connect to my wireless network...but now in ubuntu i also do yet it is so much slower,,anyone help?
[10:17] <Ro1> hey mikem
[10:17] <__mikem> HEy
[10:17] <_absolution_> how come I get a "permission denied" when I'm trying to access something?
[10:17] <Ro1> maybe your not root?
[10:17] <Ro1> mikem,think you can help me?
[10:17] <_absolution_> even when I log in as root it doesn't find the file
[10:18] <Ro1> hmm, odd
[10:18] <__mikem> WIthout knowing what kind of wireless router you have, not really
[10:18] <b14ck> how can i access .folder in gnome?
[10:18] <userundefine> press Ctrl+H in nautilus
[10:18] <Ro1> i know...its a wrt54g
[10:18] <Ng> b14ck: View->Show Hidden Files in a file browser window
[10:18] <__mikem> I never used that one before. SO I really can't
[10:19] <b14ck> Ng:  doesn't show. .wine to be exact
[10:19] <Esquire> Has anyone noticed that webdav via apache is excrutiatingly slow on ubuntu?
[10:19] <fowlduck> anyone have experience getting rdoc and ri to work, mine is....broken....
[10:19] <Ng> b14ck: if it's there, it should show it
[10:20] <b14ck> Ng:  ok then what is the cd command for program files? like in CD progra~1
[10:20] <Healot> cd
[10:20] <b14ck> Ng:  i can find it in terminal but i don know how to change the filder :P
[10:20] <b14ck> folder*
[10:20] <crashzor> b14ck,  its cd progamma\ files
[10:21] <crashzor> b14ck, and look out P = not the same as p
[10:21] <fowlduck> anyone?
[10:21] <b14ck> crashzor: i know :P
[10:21] <crashzor> b14ck, you can \ space bars away
[10:21] <crashzor> or use ""
[10:22] <Healot> just tab tab until you get the path corrected automagically by bash
[10:22] <crashzor> Healot, now i just love typing by hand ;)
[10:22] <Paladine> hmmm having issues with dvd playback
[10:22] <Healot> I am just lazy but I am speedy
[10:22] <b14ck> crashzor: cd /.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[10:22] <crashzor> and i name my folders in uni-code for extra fun :p
[10:23] <Paladine> anyone care to help?
[10:23] <crashzor> try cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files
[10:23] <kindor> word op
[10:23] <Paladine> css issue
[10:23] <crashzor> b14ck, .wine is in you're home folder not in /
[10:23] <Healot> !dvd
[10:23] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:23] <b14ck> crashzor: yep it worked thanx m8
[10:24] <Paladine> ahh I had to open the drive and close it again after installing the css decrypter
[10:24] <b14ck> crashzor: ok one more thing. a move folder command ( with all files)
[10:24] <_absolution_> do I need the xserver going to play around with fluxbox?
[10:25] <CarlFK> yes
[10:25] <arapehl> oskude: Uhm, *blush* the MD5s don't match
[10:25] <crashzor> b14ck, try creating a folder samewere you wanted it and just typ cp -drf /werefrom /wereto then you can remove the old folder using rm -drf /whattoremove
[10:26] <b14ck> crashzor: golden mate. thanx
[10:26] <crashzor> yw
[10:26] <zcat[1] > umm.. 'mv /foo /bar  has always worked for me...
[10:27] <CarlFK> is there a Palm desktop like app that will sync with my palm pda ?
[10:27] <drako_> where is ttyUSB1 ? I cant find it
[10:27] <zcat[1] > ex. ' mv foo/ Desktop/ '
[10:27] <joh> Hmm, WindowsDualBootHowTo at the wiki mentions that the ubuntu installer should detect all other installed operating systems. If I've already got Ubuntu installed and installs another OS, how can I add the new OS (windows) to the GRUB boot menu? Is there any way to do this automatically?
[10:27] <erUSUL> drako_: if it exist it will be in /dev
[10:27] <bruenig> joh, if you try to install windows second, it will probably overwrite grub
[10:27] <AJR1> guys im about to install ubuntu, but when im choosing a partition i have a spare 20gb, what do i do with the other drives? leave them as set to "media/hda" ? coz it says its goin to destroy the data ... n i defo dont want that to happen
[10:28] <crashzor> joh, it probley wil boot windows because windows of write's the MBR
[10:28] <CarlFK> joh: installing windows will wipe our grub - o
[10:28] <crashzor> ( master boot record )
[10:28] <Krhis> Windows is simple minded. It overwrites grub.
[10:28] <crashzor> CarlFK, Krhis i was just saying dat ;)
[10:28] <bruenig> AJR1, mount them as the media, they wont reformat, it will just be a drive that you can access and read in ubuntu
[10:28] <Esquire> Does anyone know why webdav works so slowly on ubuntu? I get a long pause while any file I copy over "closes" ... I never get this on my freebsd server and I have used gentoo and never gotten it... twice as fast on each of those systems... any ideas?
[10:28] <drako_> erUSUL, well is not there however /var/log/message tells me ttyUSB1 is present (a palm device)
[10:28] <Krhis> crashzor, great minds think alike. :P
[10:28] <CarlFK> joh: so install windows, then dink arround with the live cd to put grub back
[10:29] <AJR1> bruenig thanks so just leave them as they are yeah ?
[10:29] <crashzor> Krhis, yes you're right ;)
[10:29] <joh> bruenig: Well, I've got 2 disks - so I switched the master/slave settings when installing windows. Now windows is on master and linux on slave, but I would like to revert this and make the GRUB which is installed on the MBR on the linux disk to recognize the windows installation on the slave.
[10:29] <Healot> Windows developers doesn't expect dual booting... they don't need to be flexible on installing bootloader
[10:29] <bruenig> AJR1, make sure the reformat box isn't clicked
[10:29] <Krhis> crashzor, hear about XP's new kill switch?
[10:29] <AJR1> bruenig thanks :)
[10:29] <zcat[1] > AJR1: just double-check that it's mounting them and NOT reformatting them. That should be the default though.
[10:29] <MTecknology> Any help for why VM Ware server won't mount a Linux DVD iso to install from?? It just stays a blinking cursor in the corner
[10:29] <Inferus> Hi all, i have just stuck ubuntu onto my laptop but supposedly i dont have the 'make' function??!?!?!?!
[10:29] <Inferus> I have gcc
[10:29] <Cyorxamp> OK folks - Simple question (yes/no please) - Is Ubuntu Commercial (i'd like alot of answers please just to confirm)...
[10:29] <Healot> NO
[10:29] <crashzor> Krhis, nope
[10:30] <erUSUL> !build-essential > Inferus
[10:30] <Inferus> ok ty
[10:30] <joh> CarlFK: Well, I don't have the dapper livecd. I just upgraded my breezy installation.
[10:30] <muksie> I have an amd64 system with ubuntu 6.06 x86_64. So I tried to compile and install wine as described in http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit But when I do make depend, it starts compiling but when it tries to compile sfnt2fnt it skips several incompatible libz.so's and libz.a's found on my system and then stops compiling. What could be wrong with my libz.so?
[10:30] <Healot> but Canonical does support ubuntu for some amount of money
[10:30] <Inferus> thx erUSUL
[10:30] <erUSUL> Inferus: no problem
[10:30] <LjL> Cyorxamp: instead of having the channel disrupted with multiple (how many? 751?) answers, why don't you check that out for yourself, if you really need to be sure?
[10:31] <bruenig> joh, i am not familiar with the two disk dual boot however it seems as if you could edit the grub menu list at /boot/grub/menu.lst and put a new entry for windows with the appropriate information
[10:31] <Healot> bruenig: deosn't hurt if you "man grub"
[10:32] <CarlFK> most of the ubuntu CD's can be enough of a live cd for what you need
[10:32] <CarlFK> joh: (see above)
[10:32] <KuLover> Could someone please take a look at my fstab? I'm not sure that it is written correctly. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16640
[10:32] <AJR1> upon installing ubuntu, i use wifi, and i wont have access to the libraries, so how am i goin to get it to work?
[10:32] <signalvsnoise> hi, all.  Anyone know how to move a the mouse cursor between xservers in a non-xinerama multihead setup?
[10:32] <crashzor> Infecto, sudo apt-get install make
[10:33] <LjL> !build-essential
[10:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[10:33] <CarlFK> joh: boot the breezy cd, I forget if ther is an optoin on the boot screen - but before you get to the partitioner, hit Alt-F2 and you will get a shell where you can run grub to reinstall it
[10:33] <gullstad_> Hard to find a substitide fpr iTunes. Anyone using any subtututes for iPod?
[10:33] <drako_> [4359002.954000]  usb 4-1: Handspring Visor / Palm OS converter now attached to ttyUSB1
[10:33] <drako_> but i cant find that ttyUSB1
[10:33] <drako_> ...
[10:33] <judah> gullstad_: check out banshee
[10:34] <gullstad_> judah: Are you using iPod?
[10:34] <judah> gullstad_: i use an ipod. yes.
[10:34] <CarlFK> drako_: speaking of visor - what app will sync with it?
[10:34] <joh> CarlFK: Sure, which will run some sort of OS auto-detection. Any idea how I can run this from an already functional ubuntu system? I.e. if I boot up with my old GRUB (on the master disk) and add the windows installation on my slave?
[10:34] <drako_> CarlFK, jpilot
[10:34] <gullstad_> judah: And you can transfer?
[10:34] <CarlFK> drako_: thanks
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: works great with banshee.
[10:35] <bruenig> joh, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.list
[10:35] <bruenig> menu.lst*
[10:35] <gullstad_> judah: I'll check it out :)
[10:35] <joh> bruenig: I've tried that, but I'm unable to create an entry which will boot :P
[10:35] <CarlFK> joh - is windows all ready installed?
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: of corse i can.. it's formated fat32 ... no problems.
[10:35] <judah> gullstad_: www.banshee-project.org
[10:35] <joh> CarlFK: Yes, both windows and linux is already installed.
[10:36] <bruenig> joh, it should work, just follow that template that is commented out and fill it in with the appropriate information
[10:36] <joh> CarlFK: Linux on the master disk (containing the old lin-only GRUB on the MBR) and windows on the slave.
[10:36] <judah> gullstad_: but a great verison is in the dapper repos.. so sudo apt-get install banshee banshee-daap
[10:36] <joh> bruenig: Hmm, that's what I did, but it didn't work. I wonder if it's even possible to run windows from the slave drive..? :S
[10:36] <jiv> hi what does means in ./configure :   checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:37] <joh> jiv: Install gcc
[10:37] <jiv> i have lasted
[10:37] <bruenig> joh, what did you put for your root entry
[10:37] <judah> jiv: install build-essential actually.
[10:37] <Sivik> jiv: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <jiv> tnx i try
[10:37] <AJR1> anyone know how to get wifi configed upon ubuntu install? as you cant access synaptic
[10:38] <judah> ajr1 wireless will work by default for most cards i bet. what kind of card are you using?
[10:38] <Sivik> AJR1, what kind of wireless card and you want it to start on boot up right
[10:38] <Speek> Will ubuntu work with a Dual Core Intel?
[10:38] <Sivik> yeah, why wouldn't it
[10:38] <bruenig> speek, yes
[10:38] <Amaranth> AJR1: you have to use the terminal to set it up so you can install network-manager-gnome
[10:38] <AJR1> Sivik NetGear Wifi USB Adapter
[10:38] <Amaranth> Speek: Works great.
[10:38] <AJR1> judah NetGear Wifi USB Adapter
[10:38] <Sivik> AJR1, did you google it?
[10:38] <joh> bruenig: something like: title Windows \n rootnoverify (hd1,0) \n chainloader +1 \n makeactive
[10:38] <Amaranth> AJR1: Applications->Accessories->Terminal
[10:38] <AJR1> Sivik tried couldnt get a good hit
[10:39] <Speek> Will it be hard to use my Wireless PCI card with my Wireless Router?
[10:39] <Amaranth> Speek: Dunno.
[10:39] <AJR1> Amaranth ok tell you what, im goin to boot ubuntu onto this machine - then im getting my laptop and loggin in here :P
[10:39] <Amaranth> AJR1: ok
[10:39] <AJR1> brb all ... here comes ubuntu ;)
[10:39] <CarlFK> joh = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16656
[10:39] <timas> howdy folks
[10:39] <Amaranth> hey timas
[10:40] <judah> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[10:40] <Speek> Can I have my windows xp and ubuntu linux on the same harddrive?
[10:40] <SeanTater> anyone here use distcc ? I was using it to see how well it did, but it does not read the hostlists' (the variable, in /etc and in ~ )
[10:40] <bruenig> joh, looks good to me, i guess it doesn't work like that for 2 disks
[10:40] <bruenig> Speek, yes
[10:40] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn I can't use shfs - module is not in 2.6.15-23-386 .. thanks for your help.
[10:40] <joh> CarlFK: Well, in my setup windows is installed on hdb, hence root (hd1,0)... I don't know if that's the problem though.
[10:40] <timas> Ok, my question for today:  If I'm having issues with my drive being mounted at boottime, what could be the problem? It seems like its not finding my drive at all.. so I'm guessing drivers?
[10:40] <joh> brettcar: Probably...
[10:40] <Amaranth> Speek: yep
[10:40] <gdb> Does anyone know how I can get a Trash icon on my desktop?  Ubuntu (ie; GNOME).
[10:41] <LjL> !tell gdb about icons
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: You can build it with module assistant
[10:41] <Amaranth> Speek: If you just go with the defaults for the partitioning in the installer it'll try to shrink the Windows partition to make room for Ubuntu and set it up so you can choose which one you want to use at boot time.
[10:41] <Esquire> Does anyone know why webdav is so friggin slow on ubuntu or how to speed it up? This is make or break for my decision on whether or not to use ubuntu.
[10:41] <Seattle_Mike2> h3sp4wn OK I shall try it.
[10:42] <oogy> can someone help me out, i am getting 100% CPU usage when accessing my harddrive.. apt-get, opening web pages, anything that actually accesses and writes the hd gives me 100% CPU and even the mouse skips across the screen any ideas?
[10:42] <Speek> What can I use to code C++ program in ubuntu?
[10:42] <timas> Kdevelop, speek
[10:42] <KenSentMe> Anyone here with a dutch installation of Kubuntu?
[10:42] <h3sp4wn> Speek: vim / emacs / kdevelop
[10:42] <Speek> Will my Photoshop CS2 and Illustrator CS2 work?
[10:42] <LjL> oogy: do you know if your drive is using DMA?
[10:42] <mjr> anjuta, emacs, vi
[10:42] <oogy> DMA is on
[10:42] <bruenig> !ne
[10:42] <oogy> hdparm -d 1 /dev/hda1
[10:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about ne
[10:43] <timas> Speek, They might with wine.. check out winehq.org
[10:43] <oogy> its a SATA drive if that matters
[10:43] <KenSentMe> Or is there somewhere i can see how some menu options are translated?
[10:43] <joh> Does Ubuntu include NTFS write support?
[10:43] <LjL> joh: no
[10:43] <bruenig> joh, no
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !module-assistant
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about module-assistant
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !m-a
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about m-a
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> !moduleassistant
[10:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about moduleassistant
[10:43] <timas> oogy was this an anwser to my question?
[10:43] <joh> LjL, bruenig: ok, thanks.
[10:43] <oogy> dma is on
[10:43] <bruenig> joh, if you want file sharing between your windows and linux, just make a fat32 partition
[10:43] <Speek> Is iwne seprate with ubuntu?
[10:44] <timas> Speek: Yeah, apt-get install wine
[10:44] <Amaranth> brb
[10:44] <CarlFK> joh: not a problem for grub as long as you set the hd right - is that where windows was originally?
[10:44] <Speek> Awsome!
[10:44] <CarlFK> joh: cuz if you moved win from hda to hdb, it is gona be pised
[10:44] <joh> bruenig: Uhm, well :P or use Explore2fs I guess...
[10:44] <joh> CarlFK: That's what I did :P
[10:45] <joh> CarlFK: Windows refused to be installed in the slave...
[10:45] <bruenig> !windows
[10:45] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[10:45] <Speek> NFTS is this going to be a problem?
[10:45] <joh> CarlFK: I guess ubuntu won't tolerate being moved from hda to hdb either...
[10:45] <CarlFK> joh: win will proabaly refuse to run ;)
[10:45] <mjr> Speek, not unless you want to write to it
[10:45] <_absolution_> what does "untarring" mean? is that like extracting?
[10:46] <Timas> I've been writing to my NTFS drive..
[10:46] <bruenig> yes
[10:46] <mjr> _absolution_, yes, extracting a tar
[10:46] <LjL> oogy: perhaps try pasting the output of hdparm -i to the pastebin
[10:46] <CarlFK> joh - linux will hadle being moved very easily - just fix grub and /etc/fstab
[10:46] <Timas> _absolution_: yeah, it is
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Argh, and I'm only installing windows to run this game :/
[10:46] <gdb> LjL: Thank you!  That's perfect!
[10:46] <Speek> How do install ubuntu on NFTS?
[10:46] <mjr> Speek, you don't
[10:46] <oogy> pastebin?
[10:46] <IrIT_> Anyone here using Monodevelop?
[10:46] <Timas> Speek: That doesn't work
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Yeah, I know :) I just have to fiddle around in the Busybox shell :P
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Or the livecd
[10:46] <Speek> Then I guess I cant have ubuntu?
[10:46] <LjL> !tell oogy about pastebin
[10:46] <LjL> Speek: why?
[10:46] <marcus__> Windows........
[10:46] <mjr> Speek, you resize the ntfs if necessary to make space for Linux partitions
[10:46] <newbuntu> whats the command to copy a file over to your system when your on a remote system using shh-server?
[10:46] <joh> CarlFK: Well, I guess that's what I have to do then. Move lin from hda to hdb...
[10:47] <_absolution_> so do use a terminal to compile the "untarred" file?
[10:47] <Speek> Well I only have one hard drive on this pc for now and windows is on it
[10:47] <Speek> it has space for linux
[10:47] <Speek> it's NFTS
[10:47] <bruenig> NTFS
[10:47] <Timas> _absolution_: that all depends on the stuff you untar..
[10:47] <LjL> !tell speek about dualboot
[10:47] <Timas> No-one for my boot mounting issues with the newer kernels?
[10:47] <joh> !tell joh about dualboot
[10:48] <newbuntu> im trying sudo cp -r  aloon@24.blah.blah /home/sara but the file doesnt show up at this end
[10:48] <CarlFK> Speek:  the installer will let you resize the ntfs partition to make space for Linux
[10:48] <Xenguy> After upgrading to Dapper, I have this odd problem:  I leave my workstation on 24/7 which used to work fine.  Now, each morning when I check the PC, my keyboard gives no output anymore for that X session (although my mouse still works).  I have to switch user to a terminal, become root, and then stop and start gdm in order to get a new X session that allows my keyboard to work.  Does anyone have an idea why this might be happening?
[10:48] <Kibou> newbuntu: scp
[10:48] <Boyaka> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 this is live cd or what?
[10:48] <Timas> Xenguy: USB or PS2?
[10:48] <newbuntu> kibou scp instead of cp - r?
[10:48] <Xenguy> Timas: ps2
[10:48] <Boyaka> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386 this is live cd or what?
[10:49] <Timas> Xenguy: The mouse too?
[10:49] <LjL> Boyaka: it is the desktop cd. it boots a live system and you can install from it
[10:49] <Kibou> newbuntu: man scp
[10:49] <Xenguy> Timas: no, the mouse works fine
[10:49] <Esquire> Boyaka, yes
[10:49] <Esquire> Live CD and Install
[10:49] <Kibou> gotta specify the host and everything
[10:49] <Timas> Xenguy: Is the mouse PS2, too? or is it usb?
[10:49] <CarlFK> newbuntu: aloon does it say it is coping, or error?  (I am guessing it does show up, but you don't have right to it becaseu aloon<>sarah
[10:49] <Xenguy> Timas: sorry, the mouse is PS2 also
[10:50] <newbuntu> it just goes to next line no error
[10:50] <pvd2006> How can you get the screen brighter on Ubuntu?
[10:50] <kaiSVK> hi all ... I just need to set up user to log ing automatically by the boot ...
[10:50] <Timas> Xenguy: In that case, I have no idea, sorry.. I was thinking something along the lines with the machine disabling your keyboard in a weird powersaving mode.. but if the mouse is ps2 too that would get disabled as well
[10:50] <Speek> Well if I have anymore problems with ubuntu I will contact you guys
[10:50] <Speek> thanks for the help :)
[10:50] <Speek> <3
[10:50] <newbuntu> do i have to chown the file first?
[10:50] <Xenguy> Timas: OK, thanks anyway
[10:50] <argyro> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/POy8LR80.html
[10:51] <Xenguy> Timas: I have no idea what the matter could be
[10:51] <marcus__> I'm just wondering why the various builds of ubuntu have a problem with hal32?
[10:51] <argyro> I got a new kernel, so my broadcom minipci chipset is supported better(i hope?)...but I get this message from iwconfig; do i need to install a new wireless-tools?
[10:51] <Boyaka> LjL : you mean i can install Ubuntu on my system with this disc?
[10:51] <Healot> what does a Linux program need Windows HAL for compilation, marcus__?
[10:51] <LjL> Boyaka: yes.
[10:52] <LjL> it's the main cd, it's the first link from the left, i really don't understand why people keep doubting that it's the "real" ubuntu cd :\
[10:52] <newbuntu> im having a hard time finding the command in scp man to copy a folder or file over
[10:52] <marcus__> healot it doesn't, but before i gave up windows, every dual boot with any ubuntu product wiuld erase hal32. i was just curious why
[10:53] <swaj> LjL:  most operating systems don't install from a LiveCD :P
[10:53] <Timas> meh. So no-one has issues with the kernels higher than -19?  It wont boot my machine in anything newer as the -19 kernels :(
[10:53] <Healot> Ubuntu installation won't erase any Windows file unless you delete the Windows system partition, marcus__
[10:53] <Healot> what actually you did?
[10:54] <IKE> hello
[10:54] <IKE> can you use windows files in Ubuntu ?
[10:54] <Timas> IKE, with wine, yeah
[10:54] <IKE> okey
[10:54] <lamego> what do you mean by Windows files ?
[10:55] <lamego> You don't need wine to open data files
[10:55] <Seattle_Mike> h3sp4wn - I give up.  Where is moduleassistant?  I have modle-init-tools installed but no ma
[10:55] <Timas> actually, thats a good question..
[10:55] <kismet> Any idea why after a fresh install of ubuntu I get "could not open default font 'fixed'" as error message of X.org and it doesn't start?
[10:55] <IKE> i meant i lite timas answerd :P
[10:55] <krang> Hey, does anyone know how I can prevent a user from logging on at more than one machine? (NIS central user DB)
[10:55] <marcus__> healot oh okay dont matter anymore, was just curious like i said. very happy kubutu user now for a while. :)
[10:55] <runge> hintswen, im new to burning in linux/ubuntu.. how do you burn a .vob file to a dvd?
[10:55] <runge> err
[10:55] <Healot> !info k3b
[10:55] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.12.14-0ubuntu7 (dapper), package size 3941 kB, installed size 8376 kB
[10:55] <marcus__> healot thanks for your time. :)
[10:56] <lamego> krang, I don't believe that is possible unless you add some script during the login which does a match between the user and the system
[10:56] <IKE> if i whant to make a linux partition wich program sholud i use ?
[10:56] <krang> lamego: damn, cheers anyway
[10:56] <runge> Healot, I know of k3b, but how would one burn .vob file? I do not see any setting
[10:56] <Healot> fdisk, (g/qt)parted
[10:57] <Healot> runge -> Menu File -> New Project -> New DVD Video Project
[10:57] <runge> IKE, I like cfdisk, its console based
[10:57] <judah> !xgl
[10:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[10:57] <h3sp4wn> Seattle_Mike: /usr/bin/module-assistant (once its installed) sudo apt-get install modules-assistant (you probably also want shfs-utils and shfs-source)
[10:57] <runge> thanks Healot, I will check it out! (I tried dvd-movie thing, but it dident work)
[10:57] <judah> thanks ubotu!!!
[10:57] <Healot> drag/load your DVD file to the appropriate folder... runge
[10:58] <IKE> Healot fdisk, (g/qt)parted was it to me `?
[10:58] <Healot> no, to MR. William :)
[10:58] <IKE> ok
[10:58] <IKE> if i whant to make a linux partition wich program sholud i use ?
[10:58] <Snurf> How do i get my speakers to work? They worked right upon install last time I installed Ubuntu
[10:59] <dwight> which is better, the liferea-gtkhtml or liferea-mozilla
[11:00] <mdalek> has anyone had any problems with window frames not appearing
[11:00] <Healot> define "better"
[11:00] <mdalek> only happens in some apps i run
[11:00] <Snurf> mdalek: what are you using
[11:00] <benyx> Hi! i have a little problem..   the volume control's shortcut key on my keyboard dont work
[11:00] <mdalek> and on my laptop its fine
[11:00] <mdalek> gnome
[11:00] <Snurf> Oh
[11:00] <IKE> THX for the help
[11:01] <LjL> swaj: a few operating systems do install from a "live cd", although it isn't necessarily called a "live cd" since that's simply the way they've always been installed
[11:01] <Snurf> How do i get my speakers to work?
[11:02] <benyx> i see the progressbar on the screen.. but dont affect the sound
[11:02] <swaj> LjL, livecd's are not commonly used for system installs, which is why a lot of people are confused.  Usually the LiveCD is used for testing whether the distribution will work at all, and then subsequent disc downloads allow for actual installation.
[11:02] <benyx> and all work with the liveCD  and not after installing
[11:02] <LjL> swaj: at any rate, the first line of the paragraph describing the Desktop CD (right where you download it) says "The desktop CD allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later."
[11:02] <Tom7e> i'm a former fedora user, so i'm not used to how this works... when i installed ubuntu i didn't set a su password... so what is my su password?
[11:02] <Snurf> !audio
[11:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[11:02] <fowlduck> !root
[11:02] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:03] <teferra> A friend wants to join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-l10n-am. but the menu bar on the left side which holds the join link is not coming. the other sites are ok but only this site.
[11:03] <swaj> LjL, agreed, but confusion abounds
[11:03] <barongas> how do I cp folders? I want to migrate my home folder to another drive...
[11:03] <LjL> !tell barongas about cli
[11:03] <compengi> does someone know where can i find ebooks on learning bash language?
[11:03] <swaj> barongas, cp -R /home/yourname /other/drive
[11:04] <Healot> wikibooks >> compengi
[11:04] <Tom7e> i've used sudo before... so i can never become root?  then why does the su command still ask for a password?
[11:04] <swaj> Tom7e, sudo su - root
[11:04] <LjL> swaj, barongas: or more likely cp -a blah blah
[11:04] <loststar4545> i compiled xine-lib wrong and want to remove it and replace it with the old one
[11:05] <swaj> LjL, -R is a recursive copy and works fine ;)
[11:05] <LjL> !tell tom7e about sudo
[11:05] <loststar4545> how do i do that
[11:05] <compengi> Healot, ty
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: why would you use "sudo su - root"?
[11:05] <barongas> swaj, it doesn't want to copy examples folder and complains about not wanting to create symbolic links
[11:05] <kimo> Tom7e: sudo -i
[11:05] <Tom7e> ok thanks
[11:05] <dura> loststar4545, rm -rf /foo ?
[11:05] <krang> Hey, how do you set things so that users automatically lock their screens after x minutes, then log off after y minutes more?
[11:05] <swaj> LjL, he asked how to become root, and I answered him
[11:05] <dura> krang, Settings in xscreensaver
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: yeah, except it doesn't preserve ownerships and it follows symlinks. not what you want normally
[11:05] <Tom7e> sudo -i is very nice
[11:05] <dura> Not sure about the logout though
[11:05] <krang> dura: cheers
[11:05] <LjL> swaj: but that's a bad answer. "sudo -i" is a much better one
[11:06] <Tom7e> is it possible to make gnome automatically log me in when i start my computer?
[11:06] <swaj> LjL, either way is fine
[11:07] <dura> Tom7e, Yes
[11:07] <Tom7e> ohh, sorry, i see how
[11:07] <blacktears> what is a bittorent meta file?
[11:07] <blacktears> bittorrent
[11:07] <dura> blacktears, , The file that contains the information to assemble the torrent
[11:07] <blacktears> where is it?
[11:08] <dura> Depends
[11:08] <dura> It's usually with the torrent... and it's usually hidden
[11:08] <dura> so like .foo
[11:08] <LjL> swaj: sudo -i has always been the very much recommended way on this channel and elsewhere in the ubuntu documentation. sudo su is redundant, at the very least
[11:08] <dura> If you have to type a password with sudo, just use su
[11:08] <_absolution_> why do I get an error message when i'm using this command line "tar -zxvf"?
[11:08] <dura> or su -
[11:08] <dashrilla> do I have to erase the HD in order to partition it for Linux install?   20 gigs free / defrag'd  want to run dual boot windows/ubuntu
[11:08] <Timas> few new people here now..  anyone have an idea how I can get my drive to work with the kernels after the -19 edition? Anything newer as the -19 can't find my root drive and thus makes it impossible for me to run with that.. I'm stuck using the -19 kernel..
[11:09] <dura> _absolution_, Maybe you're using the wrong switch for the file you're trying to unpack?
[11:09] <krang> So, anyone know how to auto logoff a user after a certain time?
[11:09] <swaj> LjL, whatever
[11:09] <_absolution_> what do you suggest?
[11:09] <fowlduck> anyone have ruby ri working in ubuntu here?
[11:09] <blacktears> hey
[11:09] <kalosaurusrex> abso: try just tar xvfz <file>
[11:09] <blacktears> i want to download music with linux what should i use?
[11:09] <dura> _absolution_, What's kind of file is it? Are you trying to compress or uncompress?
[11:10] <_absolution_> uncompress
[11:10] <dura> blacktears, LimeWire works well... or GTK-Gnutella
[11:10] <LjL> dura: where you talking to me about the "su -" thing?
[11:10] <dura> _absolution_, Okay what is the file extension?
[11:10] <LjL> s/where/were
[11:10] <_absolution_> tar.gz
[11:10] <dura> LjL, No... just said it in general
[11:10] <Snurf> How do i get audio to work????
[11:10] <compengi> what languages should i know to help developing ubuntu?
[11:10] <dura> _absolution_, then do tar zxvf
[11:10] <LjL> dura: anyway i don't see how you *can* use "su -" in ubuntu
[11:10] <MTecknology> how do I do a checksum??
[11:10] <_absolution_> that's what I'm using
[11:10] <dura> LjL, I do it daily
[11:10] <LjL> dura: except, that is, by... using sudo
[11:10] <Dial_tone> how do you combine histories from several different shells into one history file?
[11:11] <cbo> hello all. Does someone have a clue on how to set up hostname on bootup, i'm going to use the same hd image for multiple computers, i need them to get its name on boot up.
[11:11] <dura> First I do sudo passwd, set the root password, and then I can su -
[11:11] <kalosaurusrex> abso: don't use the "-" just "tar xvfz"
[11:11] <jojoman02> Want Itunes in Ubuntu? Try SongBird instead, www.songbirdnest.com , the linux beta binary has been released.
[11:11] <dura> the - is depreciated.
[11:11] <LjL> dura: then you have enabled the root password. while it's your right, as it's your computer, please don't advice doing that to people.
[11:11] <dura> No longer needed.
[11:11] <kimo> anyone here using OSX on a regular x86 PC?? (where do we get the drivers from!)
[11:11] <Snurf> How do i get audio to work???
[11:11] <crashzor> anybody know who to get mp3 suport installed on dapper ( for xmms )
[11:11] <dura> LjL, Using sudo and typing a password is just as redundent as using sudo su lol
[11:11] <Aven> How do I get audio to work???
[11:11] <mutzenbacher> hello. i no good english i read from UBUNTU VIRUS here: http://3bad8.dr.ag/ubuntu-virus-2004-12-13-12-20
[11:11] <dura> crashzor, Search the Ubuntu wiki
[11:11] <kimo> !tell crashzor about restricted
[11:11] <mutzenbacher> must i update some ding?
[11:11] <dura> There is a nice howto
[11:11] <compengi> Aven, get a driver
[11:11] <Aven> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME PLEASE
[11:12] <Aven> MY INTERNET IS NOT WORKING
[11:12] <Aven> IT KEEPS SAYING PING TIMEOUT
[11:12] <Timas> Aven, your internet is fine
[11:12] <LjL> dura: deprecated? heck, no. it's just no longer needed. the standard way to pass options is "-x" or "--xyz", and while tar allows leaving the "-" out, it's certainly not deprecated
[11:12] <iamelite> Hello, i just started getting errors. My sound in cirtain apps dont work, and my Video drivers reverted to ATI Standard (Mesa) I dont know what my wife was doing...
[11:12] <Snurf> How do I get audio to work???
[11:12] <dwight> which is better, the liferea-gtkhtml or liferea-mozilla
[11:12] <Aven> Timas: NO IM USING MY LAPTOP RIGHT NOW IT HAS WINDOWS VISTA
[11:12] <Snurf> How do I get audio to work???
[11:12] <compengi> Snurf, get a driver
[11:12] <Aven> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GUIDE ME INTO WORKING IT
[11:12] <Timas> Aven: dude, relax, please
[11:12] <dura> Man... there are more morons here then in LFS:1
[11:12] <Snurf> compengi: where how
[11:12] <kalosaurusrex> aven stop the caps..
[11:12] <Aven> Timas: LOL, IM RELAXED
[11:12] <Aven> OHHH OK, DIDN'T KNOW CAPS WERE ANNOYING
[11:12] <Aven> there
[11:12] <Timas> Aven: or.. girl, but yeah. This isn't calling for a lot of assistance..
[11:12] <compengi> what is your card manifacturer
[11:12] <LjL> dura: err, except that if you type "sudo su", you're using a program that changes your privileges (sudo) to run a program that changes your privileges (su) -- and that's redundant
[11:13] <Aven> Timas: I'm both
[11:13] <Snurf> copmengi I have no clue
[11:13] <LjL> !tell aven about caps
[11:13] <kimo> Aven: sudo lspci, note your network card, google its linux driver
[11:13] <Snurf> Intel I think
[11:13] <dura> LjL, You're preaching to the choir...
[11:13] <Snurf> compengi Intel yes
[11:13] <AJR1> just tried installing ubuntu, and i selected the partition and everything and it did something, and then nothing happened?! what did i do wrong? :P
[11:13] <Aven> dura: please don't message me
[11:13] <compengi> Snurf, what is your board
[11:13] <dura> Aven, I didn't
[11:13] <Snurf> compengi I DONT KNWO
[11:13] <Aven> well someone did
[11:13] <Aven> someone ordered LjL
[11:13] <blacktears> now i have the limewire.bin file what do i do with it
[11:13] <LjL> Aven: Ubotu did, because i asked it
[11:13] <Snurf> How do i find out?
[11:13] <dura> Aven, Read the posts in the room
[11:13] <swaj> LjL, except that sudo just lets you execute a command as root, where su lets you become root.  If you don't know your root password, then sudo su is a viable solution.  Redundant? I think not.
[11:14] <dura> geeesh
[11:14] <H> t./ it
[11:14] <Snurf> 'board | grep what is it'
[11:14] <Snurf> lol
[11:14] <Aven> dura: wut doz post mean
[11:14] <compengi> Snurf, what are you running now?
[11:14] <Aven> windowz
[11:14] <dura> Aven, I'm ignoring you  now.
[11:14] <Snurf> Ubuntu 6.06
[11:14] <Snurf> compengi
[11:14] <LjL> swaj: eh? so, how *exactly* does "sudo -i" *not* let you become root?
[11:14] <compengi> ?
[11:14] <mutzenbacher> what is loose with ubunzu virus ? i read some but no good english. must i update some? i read here; http://3bad8.dr.ag/ubuntu-virus-2004-12-13-12-20
[11:14] <Snurf> compengi I am running Ubuntu 6.06
[11:14] <blacktears> what do i do with the limewirelinux.bin file?
[11:14] <swaj> LjL, I never said it didn't, but sudo su isn't redundant
[11:14] <compengi> ok i got that
[11:14] <Snurf> Ok what else you need
[11:15] <compengi> lol
[11:15] <AJR1> can i install ubuntu onto a partition from within windows?
[11:15] <Timas> Mutzenbacher the date on that url is 2004 I'm taking it
[11:15] <dura> blacktears,  chmod a+x limewire.bin && ./limewire.bin as root or using sudo
[11:15] <compengi> wait till i can help
[11:15] <Tom7e> is fglrx-driver the name of the ati radeon driver?
[11:15] <Cyorxamp> OK I just found out that xvid is not 'free' as it follows the mpeg4 standard which is mpeg-la ruled and thus the ideas it uses are patented thus can't be in ubuntu - what about WIMP?  xerox invented the WIMP 'idea' so how can ubuntu exist at all?
[11:15] <Warbo> LjL: I know "sudo -s -H" lets you become root, and that is what I use for prolonged super-user access
[11:15] <jenda> blacktears: try chmod + x limewirelinux.bin; limewirelinux.bin
[11:15] <dura> fglrx is the name or ATi's driver relase.
[11:15] <LjL> swaj: i just explained to dura why it is. "sudo" is a command that changes your privileges. "su" is also a command that changes your privileges. using both is redundant, since sudo alone is perfectly sufficient.
[11:15] <mutzenbacher> oh
[11:15] <mutzenbacher> thangs
[11:16] <Snurf> Where can I download Intel audio drivers for Ubuntu and how do I install them?!
[11:16] <compengi> Cyorxamp, you want winamp?
[11:16] <swaj> LjL, it's just 2 different ways to accomplish the same thing
[11:16] <Timas> hrm, anyone here know of anyone else thats having trouble with the newer kernels not finding the root drive?
[11:16] <Cyorxamp> compengi, what? no!
[11:16] <Warbo> Tom7e: There are three. "ati" is a 2D-only free driver for all ATI ards, "radeon" is 3D for older cards (about Radeon 9200 and less) and "fglrx" is non-free and gives 3D for cards higher than radeon 9200
[11:16] <compengi> Snurf, from intel website
[11:16] <Snurf> For ubuntu?
[11:16] <compengi> Snurf, www.intel.com
[11:16] <LjL> Warbo: "-s" sets you as the superuser, and "-H" moves you to the superuser's home. i think with "-i" you will gain the same effect with less typing.
[11:16] <Cyorxamp> compengi - WIMP - Windows, Icons, Mouse and Pointer
[11:16] <kalosaurusrex> dura: just run sudo passwd root then, su
[11:16] <LjL> swaj: one of which is redundant, yes.
[11:16] <dura> Are the ATi drivers available for AMD64 on Ubuntu yet?
[11:16] <jory_> AJR1: no, you can't. You have to boot ubuntu 6.06 cd and then launch the install icon on ubuntu desktop.
[11:17] <compengi> Snurf, you will download drivers for linux
[11:17] <AJR1> jory_ i did that and i chose the partition and everything and clicked install ... and nothing happened
[11:17] <Warbo> LjL: sudo can't become any user can it, only root? (if I want to sort out a dodgy config for a user then "sudo su username" lets me become that user without having to log in and use the dodgy config)
[11:17] <dura> kalosaurusrex, Yeah I did that...
[11:17] <dura> Figured that out like 2 years ago
[11:17] <Tom7e> thanks Warbo
[11:17] <jory_> Warbo: fglrx gave my mobility radeon 9000 64mb ddr pretty much 3d acceleration, running Xgl quite alright on my laptop now.
[11:17] <Flannel> Warbo: it can.  sudo -u [user] 
[11:17] <compengi> AJR1, are you working on live cd?
[11:17] <Jimmey> I'm having problems with my sound - It worked perfectly before, but all of a sudden, it's jut cut out - And I can't get any sound, from anywhere. I've just tried out a liveCD, and that works fine.
[11:17] <AJR1> compengi certainly am 6.06
[11:18] <Timas> okey, no new info on my problem, I'll try again tomorrow :) Thanks people!
[11:18] <dura> Jimmey, Did you check the mixer settings?
[11:18] <Warbo> Flannel: Thanks, I didn't know that
[11:18] <Snurf> How do I find out what kind of Speakers I have?!
[11:18] <swaj> dura, you know how to stop su/sudo from asking for a password right?  just "sudo visudo" and then change the last line in the file to "%admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL"
[11:18] <Jimmey> dura, I don't know how to do that.
[11:18] <blacktears> kpackage saves the day again
[11:18] <SixDays> is it ok to drop a question?
[11:18] <AJR1> compengi im back in windows now though as ubuntu doesnt pick up my wifi adapter properly
[11:18] <Jimmey> SixDays: Yes
[11:18] <LjL> Warbo: it can. "sudo -u username ..."
[11:18] <Flannel> SixDays: yep, just ask away.
[11:18] <fiete_> where can i get linux-restricted-modules for 2.6.15-25-386?
[11:18] <compengi> AJR1, no are you installing the ubuntu from live cd?
[11:18] <dura> Jimmey, Go into the multimedia part of the menu and click on the mixer app in there.
[11:18] <Cyorxamp> I just learned XviD is 'patent encumbered' as it was called in here cuz it follow 'ideas' that the MPEG-LA control - thus it is MPEG4... However Xerox invented the idea of WIMP (windows, icons, mouse & pointers) so how can Ubuntu exist without itself being patent encumbered?
[11:18] <Warbo> jory_: My radeon mobility 9200 could not use fglrx at all (nothing GL or even framebuffer worked) but I have had no problems with radeon driver
[11:18] <dura> swaj, Yeah I did know that
[11:18] <jory_> fiete_: apt or synaptic
[11:18] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[11:19] <Jimmey> dura - Multimedia part of which menu?
[11:19] <joh> CarlFK: Still there? I changed the grub config and now my ubuntu kernel won't boot...
[11:19] <fiete_> dura:lol
[11:19] <Flannel> Cyorxamp: that'd be a perfect question for #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19] <LjL> Cyorxamp: because for something to be patent encumbered, a patent actually has to be requested and issued.
[11:19] <AJR1> compengi yeah well i tried too, it loaded into ubuntu, and then i double clicked "install" selected my spare partition clicked install and nothing happened
[11:19] <dura> Jimmey, Are you using Gnome?
[11:19] <Jimmey> Yeah
[11:19] <dura> The gnome menu
[11:19] <compengi> AJR1, you should wait alittle
[11:19] <AJR1> compengi wait ?
[11:19] <dura> I'm not using Ubuntu right now otherwise I could be more specific.
[11:19] <dura> Sorry...
[11:19] <Cyorxamp> LjL - and it does
[11:20] <SixDays> Im trying to compile gnomecommander 1.2.0 for dapper, running configure I get "checking if glib >= 2.0.0 exists... configure: error: no" ive installed glib1.2.10 etc but I dont know what to do to get it to use it since 2.0 is none existant.
[11:20] <compengi> AJR1, yes because it's reading from the cd to run the live and to prepare files to install
[11:20] <Jimmey> dura - You're going to have to be a bit more specific..
[11:20] <dura> Why do people compile stuff for Ubuntu?
[11:20] <crashzor> kimo, i installed ever fucking package notice about on the site and stil it wil not work xmms plays ogg file whitout trobbel but mp3 don't work
[11:20] <AJR1> compengi ohhhh lol cant i just install it without booting it up as it where
[11:20] <compengi> AJR1, this what happened to me too
[11:20] <jory_> AJR1 the installer is pretty basic and intuitional, so there's nowhere to be lost. Just wait if there seems to be no action. Everything has to go the right way.
[11:20] <kimo> !xmms
[11:20] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[11:20] <SixDays> dura: since ubuntu is slow on updating the reps.
[11:20] <acid-trip> hey guys whats the site to get more apt repo's?
[11:20] <fiete_> dura: linux-restricted-modules is NOT available for 2.6.15-25 via apt
[11:20] <AJR1> jory_ thanks can i just install it without actually booting into the live cd
[11:20] <Tom7e> !codecs
[11:20] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <kimo> !codecs
[11:20] <jory_> AJR1: No, that's the new way one can install ubuntu. Through the livecd.
[11:20] <dura> Jimmey, And you're going to have to look through the multimedia menu, where the apps like amarok and grip and stuff would be to find the mixer.
[11:21] <H> just use xmms & vlc player
[11:21] <ardchoille> !sourceomatic
[11:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about sourceomatic
[11:21] <joh> CarlFK: Nvm, fixed it.
[11:21] <Warbo> dura: Usually it is Windows users who are used to getting programs off websites, therefore they end up downloading tar.gz files of source code
[11:21] <fiete_> dura: at least not in the standard repositories
[11:21] <dura> fiete_, What you told me that because... ?
[11:21] <AJR1> jory_ oh
[11:21] <SixDays> crashzor: installed gstreamer ugly?
[11:21] <dura> Warbo, yeah I suppose....
[11:21] <Jimmey> Where is it, dura
[11:21] <Flannel> AJR1: if you get the alternate CD instead of desktop, you can install from textmode
[11:21] <fiete_> dura: but -25 has been release some time ago :-(
[11:21] <crashzor> SixDays, yes
[11:21] <AJR1> Flannel thankyou :) ill try with the live cd first
[11:22] <compengi> AJR1, it's better to start with
[11:22] <ardchoille> acid-trip: that site is source-o-matic, maybe google can help with a url
[11:22] <AJR1> compengi thanks
[11:22] <compengi> AJR1, text mode is complex
[11:22] <jory_> For people having troubles with Radeon RV2x0 cards (9000 etc) - ATI's new fglrx release has a bug
[11:22] <dura> Jimmey, If you can't handle using a mouse and clicking a button you should give your computer to someone who can.
[11:22] <AJR1> compengi yeah i did gentoo like that weiiird!
[11:22] <compengi> AJR1, np :)
[11:23] <Warbo> Does anybody know of some fun 2D games which are not in Ubuntu/Debian? I am making a LiveCD of games for my Dad (for use on an old computer, so no 3D) but there is 300MB free after installing everything I like.
[11:23] <jory_> You have to copy one file from older version of fglrx and acceleration will work just fine.
[11:23] <Jimmey> dura, Okay. This time, try making some sense. Where in the menus is this multimedia bit you speak of.
[11:23] <anderbubble> what caches the device names for network devices? For example, I have wireless and wired pcmcia cards. They are always the same name (e.g., eth0 vs eth1). What does that.
[11:23] <ardchoille> Warbo: lbreakout2 is fun and addictive
[11:23] <dura> Jimmey, As I said... if you can't find the menus in Gnome you're too stupid to use a computer.
[11:23] <cbo> please i need some hint on how to set up hostname on boot up, like install script does, to use the same hd image on several computers
[11:23] <Warbo> ardchoille: Yeah, I have that already. I just don't want to go out on Google with no idea how many crappy games I will have to sort through :)
[11:24] <dura> cbo, Edit /etc/hosts
[11:24] <dura> Add your machine name and it's IP address. That's one way to do it.
[11:24] <Jimmey> dura, I'm actually not. I've searched through the menus, and there's no multimedia section.
[11:24] <Starl1ng> Warbo: xkobo
[11:24] <swaj> SixDays, is the ubuntu package for gnome-commander in the universe repository not suitable for you for some reason?
[11:24] <cbo> dura: for each one? there has to be a daemon that does it.... (i pray)
[11:24] <SixDays> swaj: its old and buggy.
[11:25] <dura> cbo, For each machine on your network?
[11:25] <soundray> cbo: you need to enter it in /etc/hostname. Editing /etc/hosts is unnecessary
[11:25] <dura> You could run a DNS server
[11:25] <SixDays> and Im fucking pissed that I havent been able to compile the bloody thing, which only makes me even more determined to compile it.
[11:25] <dura> Like I said... that was just one way to do it
[11:25] <LjL> dura: please stop using that kind of tone on this channel, with Jimmey or with anyone else
[11:25] <soundray> SixDays: language
[11:25] <dura> LjL, Are you a moderator?
[11:25] <aXanaXa> hey can someone help me out here, for some reason when I use apt to try to update my package lists all of the connections fail and nothing is downloaded.  However if I was to copy and past the URL via HTTP into my browser it will connect and try to download the file requested such as sources.gz.  My repositories are just the defaults.
[11:25] <SixDays> soundray: k
[11:25] <_absolution_> arrgh
[11:25] <LjL> dura: why does it matter?
[11:26] <dura> LjL, Unles you are, telling people how to treat others isn't your job.
[11:26] <yipe> dura do you know why this distro is great? Why so many people have switched over to Ubuntu?
[11:26] <SixDays> can pkg-config resolve my issue?
[11:26] <dura> Being the op of 4 other channels, I know this.
[11:26] <Sivik> why am i having issuew swith security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
[11:26] <LjL> dura: ok, let's do the jobs to those who are appointed to it then
[11:26] <LjL> !ops
[11:26] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:26] <yipe> because of channels like this, where even the newbiest of newbs can get help
[11:26] <nalioth> LjL: ?
[11:26] <dura> yipe, It's great to different people for different reasons.
[11:26] <soundray> dura: being the op of 4 other channels, you do apparently know how to make yourself unpopular.
[11:26] <dura> Just as linux
[11:26] <dura> is
[11:26] <cbo> dura: yes i need a system that 'asks' for its hostname every boot....
[11:26] <compengi> AJR1, i'm back
[11:27] <Seveas> ljl?
[11:27] <CarlFK> drako_: jpilot sync - how do I do it?  the doc say 'nothing' - http://www.henrikbecker.de/jpilot/jpilot-manual-en-11.html#ss11.2
[11:27] <nalioth> LjL: may we help you?:
[11:27] <dura> soundray, I'm not here to make friends and become popular.
[11:27] <LjL> nalioth: i don't think phrases like [23:25]  <dura> Jimmey, As I said... if you can't find the menus in Gnome you're too stupid to use a computer. <---- is this acceptable on #Ubuntu?     can be considered acceptable. do you?
[11:27] <_absolution_> i'm having some issues too....can't seem to access "/.fluxbox/......
[11:27] <yipe> dura, I feel sorry for those who go to your 4 channels for help
[11:27] <dura> LjL, Did you read what he said to me?
[11:27] <LjL> nalioth: i asked that in #ubuntu-offtopic, and the consensus seemed to be they're not
[11:27] <compengi> AJR1, anything else?
[11:27] <nalioth> dura can we be polite please?
[11:27] <mog_> well hes gone now
[11:27] <ompaul> nalioth, he is well polite now
[11:27] <Seveas> nalioth, impossible if I'm in bofh mode
[11:27] <Tom7e> I'm used to yum, what is the search function of apt?
[11:28] <nalioth> Tom7e: apt-cache search
[11:28] <erUSUL> Tom7e: apt-cache search
[11:28] <RandolphCarter> Tom7e: apt-get or aptitude + search + filter
[11:28] <yipe> hi nalioth! Why haven't you been in offtopic lately?
[11:28] <pennypacker> i like yumex better
[11:28] <ardchoille> Tom7e: welcome to warp 9 ;)
[11:28] <SixDays> _absolution_: is /.fluxbox/ an existing directory on your system?
[11:28] <aXanaXa> any able to help with my apt issue?
[11:28] <Sivik> aXanaXa, what is that issue?
[11:28] <nalioth> aXanaXa: if you ask a question
[11:28] <aXanaXa> hey can someone help me out here, for some reason when I use apt to try to update my package lists all of the connections fail and nothing is downloaded.  However if I was to copy and past the URL via HTTP into my browser it will connect and try to download the file requested such as sources.gz.  My repositories are just the defaults.
[11:28] <aXanaXa> I did it was above
[11:29] <_absolution_> I don't know....how would I know?
[11:29] <Warbo> aXanaXa: You may have messed up your system's proxy information (adding a proxy when you don't need one will also do this). However, since Firefox and other browsers have their own proxy information they can still work. I did that to my system after installing "anon-proxy" (but didn't find a way to fix it :()
[11:29] <ompaul> SixDays, your abuse of language is really not wanted, we want a clean G rated channel  do this  >>sudo apt-get install build-essential<< that will help you compile some things
[11:29] <Cycne`> sup
[11:29] <Tom7e> is libflash-mozplugin the firefox plugin for flash?
[11:29] <SixDays> ompaul: i got it the first time round, and build-essentials are installed.
[11:29] <Amaranth> no
[11:29] <aXanaXa> Warbo, this is a fresh install
[11:29] <Amaranth> flashplayer-mozilla
[11:29] <Tom7e> doesn't sound right
[11:29] <leboff> hey i my computer freezes up when downloading for about 20 min on azureus.. anyone ever heard of something like that.. im on ubuntu 6.06
[11:29] <compengi> what languages do i need to know to help in developing ubuntu?
[11:29] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup my usb dsl modem i have access runner?
[11:29] <aXanaXa> and I am checking apt.conf and not proxy
[11:29] <Cycne`> no
[11:29] <Sivik> aXanaXa, could you paste bin the whole thing that happens when you run the apt-get update and then pastebin your sources.list, if you have breezy, they seem to not be working, and if its dapper, get rid of the us in front
[11:29] <Amaranth> libflash-mozplugin is the open source one, it doesn't really work
[11:29] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys, I'm trying to install something and it can't find my libusb library. I checked my packages and libusb is installed. Any ideas what I'm meant to do? Here's the output: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16659
[11:30] <SixDays> _absolution_: what happens if you try to cd to the directory?
[11:30] <Warbo> Tom7e: That is a free version of Flash, but not as feature filled as the official one (but it does work on 64bit and PowerPC)
[11:30] <aXanaXa> it is dapper and it is the default list from the download
[11:30] <abo> !jpeg
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about jpeg
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> monomaniacpat: you'll need to install the corresponding -dev package
[11:30] <aXanaXa> and I am using straight text version of apt since I am a debian user
[11:30] <Sivik> aXanaXa, get rid of all the us in the sources.list
[11:30] <SixDays> aXanaXa: check that your /etc/apt/sources.list hasnt got # in front of every line.
[11:30] <soundray> monomaniacpat: install the -dev version of the library
[11:30] <RandolphCarter> monomaniacpat: ie. libusb-dev
[11:30] <Tom7e> i tried getting flashplayer-mozilla and it says that it's obsolete and flashplugin-nonfree has replaced it... is that what i should get then?
[11:30] <Sivik> Tom7e, yes
[11:31] <_absolution_> lol...it said no such file or directory
[11:31] <Tom7e> by the way, is there a visual apt program?
[11:31] <_absolution_> I thought I had installed fluxbox
[11:31] <Warbo> aXanaXa: Try using another program which accesses the Internet, but doesn't have it's own settings. I don't know what to try that will be available to you though
[11:31] <SixDays> _absolution_: there you have it, you dont have that directory
[11:31] <Seveas> Tom7e, several
[11:31] <aXanaXa> guys but why would I be able to download the sources.gz file if I am able to paste it into my browser
[11:31] <Seveas> Tom7e, applications  add applications and system  admin  synaptic
[11:31] <swaj> Tom7e, yes goto System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager
[11:31] <ardchoille> Tom7e: you can use Synaptic
[11:31] <Warbo> Tom7e: synaptic and Adept
[11:31] <ompaul> SixDays, then it is down to the code your trying to compile - what is it?
[11:31] <SixDays> _absolution_: .<whatever> in like /home/username/.whatever/ are userfiles for applications.
[11:32] <aXanaXa> Warbo such as ping, nslookup, nmap or firefox
[11:32] <SixDays> ompaul: gnome-commander 1.2.0
[11:32] <ToHellWithGA> !portuguese
[11:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about portuguese
[11:32] <aXanaXa> they all work fine
[11:32] <ToHellWithGA> !br
[11:32] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:32] <udo> does anyone knows how can i setup my usb dsl modem i have access runner?
[11:32] <Snurf> I downloaded a driver for my audio chip, HOW do I install this and set it up so I can hear audio??
[11:32] <_absolution_> is it better to compile the source code than to "apt-get install"??
[11:32] <pennypacker> always read the reame
[11:33] <pennypacker> td
[11:33] <h3sp4wn> udo: There is a wiki page about it created by Neutrinomass have alook for it
[11:33] <Warbo> aXanaXa: Hmmm. Then you must have a different problem that I had (which is probably a good thing, since I couldn't fix mine)
[11:33] <ompaul> SixDays, on breezy?
[11:33] <SixDays> ompaul: dapper
[11:33] <SixDays> ubuntu dapper.
[11:33] <udo> h3sp4wn where?
[11:33] <Sivik> i need help with startx
[11:33] <Sivik> i'm getting all kinds of errors
[11:33] <monomaniacpat> soundray:  RandolphCarter, thanks.
[11:33] <swaj> _absolution_, if you compile from source, then apt/synaptic can't really keep track of updates to your installed packages.  apt-get install is easier and allows for cleaner updates/upgrades
[11:33] <CarlFK> _absolution_: packages are 'better'
[11:33] <erUSUL> Snurf: whare have you dl the driver from? it is a .tar* file?
[11:33] <Warbo> Sivik: Is X set up right? (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg)
[11:33] <ardchoille> _absolution_: IMHO, it's always best to use the repos for the distro, unless there are known security issues or critical bugs with those versions of the app
[11:33] <compengi> what languages do i need to know to help in developing ubuntu?
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> udo: I don't know search the wiki just remember he did
[11:34] !lilo:*! zeno- mentions that webappsec.org has informally set up a new channel, #webappsec, for web application security discussion .... thanks!
[11:34] <aXanaXa> compengi - C
[11:34] <erUSUL> compengi: mainly C
[11:34] <erUSUL> compengi: or python
[11:34] <jo111> python?
[11:34] <Sivik> Warbo: as far as i know, i have ran it twice, with the default, but then it loads a bunch of /dev/wvcam stuff, so i delete that and then i get the error with it not being able to find some fonts
[11:34] <Warbo> _absolution_: If you do need to compile source for some reason (like getting a newer version of something) then you can use checkinstall to turn it into a package then install that
[11:35] <compengi> and bash?
[11:35] <LjL> compengi: best asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <CountDown> Anyone have any luck getting Second Life running on an Intel 82915G/GV/910GL graphics card?
[11:35] <Sivik> Warbo, i installed the server and then installed kde
[11:35] <Snurf> erUSUL: I downloaded the driver from some site for audio drivers on linux. And it is a .zip file
[11:35] <CarlFK> _absolution_: if you need a more recient version, then learn how to update a package (which isn't 'easy', but worth the effort)
[11:35] <Sivik> _absolution_, sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:35] <ompaul> SixDays, installing 1.2 on dapper may not be a good idea the first reason is that you can install 1.1.7 if you have the universe repos in place and compiling that - it is from the next version not 1.4 of gnome who knows that will clash with what, and you should /msg ubotu timetable it might help explain why you don't mix and match
[11:35] <Warbo> Sivik: have you tried KDM instead of startx? (sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start)
[11:36] <Sivik> i have tried both xdm and kdm
[11:36] <barongas> I failed my home folder migration cause apparently I don't own my home folder and my .mcsomething file that goes there and I can't chown them to belong to me either, any ideas?
[11:36] <dashrilla> do I have to erase the HD in order to partition it for Linux install?   20 gigs free / defrag'd  want to run dual boot windows/ubuntu
[11:36] <SixDays> already have gnome commander 1.1.7
[11:36] <erUSUL> Snurf: from de alsa site? which sound card do you have?
[11:36] <swaj> barongas, sudo chown :P
[11:36] <Sivik> Warbo: xdm & kdm both die and won't start
[11:36] <pennypacker> i keep getting unreal hits on my firewall
[11:36] <pennypacker> all day
[11:37] <concept10> anyone know what is different with the linux-server kernels?  the wiki doesnt provide much info
[11:37] <Warbo> dashrilla: "Free space" reffers to space which is not part of any partition, so you will need to shrink any partitions that you have to make proper free space
[11:37] <barongas> swaj did that, didn't work. I'm trapped in terminal now...
[11:37] <Jimme1> I'll try again. I was listening to music, wen all of a sudden, it just cut out -
[11:37] <Jimme1> I tried a liveCD, and the sound worked
[11:37] <soundray> dashrilla: no. Creating partitions and formatting them will overwrite your old data automatically.
[11:37] <swaj> barongas, sudo chown yourname:yourgroup .filename should work.  if not, what error did it give?
[11:37] <udo> how can i start my kernel with paraments
[11:37] <barongas> swaj can I have done something wrong in fstab to mount my partition where home resides
[11:37] <CountDown> Anyone have any luck getting Second Life to run on Ubuntu at all?
[11:37] <dashrilla> let me ask it differently
[11:38] <ompaul> SixDays, well 1.2 is not from the version of gome we use who knows what libs will clash and what interesting situations you might end up in
[11:38] <Warbo> Sivik: I would try hacking away at the files section of the xorg.conf then. Strip down the fonts until it at least comes up, then add them back one by one (I mean the directories, not the fonts :)) until you find the problem
[11:38] <barongas> swaj: how do I know my groupname?
[11:38] <soundray> dashrilla: you can keep your existing Windows installation and shrink it... ubotu knows more:
[11:38] <soundray> !tell dashrilla about dualboot
[11:38] <SixDays> ompaul: hmm ok.
[11:38] <dashrilla> soundray:  tks
[11:38] <ghostrider> good evening
[11:38] <Sivik> Warbo: ok
[11:38] <Warbo> !gparted
[11:38] <SixDays> maybe time to go use another distro then.
[11:38] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:38] <pennypacker> fedora 5 isnt bad
[11:38] <swaj> barongas, in ubuntu, usually your groupname is the same as your username... however you will belong to several groups.  You can type "groups" at the terminal to see which one you want to use
[11:39] <SixDays> fedora sux
[11:39] <pjfc> Using Kubuntu, after applying an upgrade to kernel 2.6.15-25-386, kernel won't load.  I am still using old kernel version.  How do I fix this? Can anyone help?
[11:39] <pennypacker> =O
[11:39] <swaj> barongas, I would recommend though, for a home directory, just using your default group
[11:39] <SixDays> was thinking along the lines of debian or gentoo.
[11:39] <Warbo> Fedora is OK, but I think you have to reinstall to change versions
[11:39] <dashrilla> is the owner of ubotu on this channel ?
[11:39] <snozle> I have a pdf document with editable fields but I can't seem to edit them with any PDF viewer I've tried, can someone point me in the right direction?
[11:39] <Sivik> Warbo: not its saying XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining
[11:39] <ghostrider> hi pennypacker
[11:39] <pennypacker> hi
[11:39] <dashrilla> Warbo:  tks for help
[11:39] <Sivik> xauth: error in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority
[11:39] <ghostrider> where u from
[11:40] <Warbo> Sivik: Is this being run with sudo?
[11:40] <soundray> dashrilla: his nick is cafuego
[11:40] <pennypacker> nl
[11:40] <Sivik> Warbo: its the same error no matter if i run user or sudo
[11:40] <dashrilla> soundray:  tks
[11:40] <barongas> swaj Switching owner of .mcoprc: Operation not allowed
[11:40] <Warbo> Sivik: OK, just wondering if it was a permission thing
[11:40] <Sivik> now its saying No valied FontPath could be found
[11:40] <Warbo> Sivik: Can you just "X"?
[11:40] <ghostrider> anybody wanna chat
[11:40] <krang> So, does anyone know how to prevent a user from logging in from multiple machines (NIS)? They can have as many terminals as they want, only one desktop
[11:40] <SonicChao> snozle, whcih PDF viewers have you tired?
[11:40] <barongas> switching =changing? swedish translation
[11:40] <SonicChao> ghostrider, this isn't MySpace.
[11:40] <ghost-elite> test.
[11:41] <ghost-elite> hey peeps.  is this the Ubuntu help chat?
[11:41] <Sivik> Warbo: not it just says Fatal server error: no valid fontpath could be found
[11:41] <soundray> ghostrider: go to #ubuntu-offtopic please. This channel is for support.
[11:41] <ghostrider> explainsonicchao
[11:41] <Sivik> ghost-elite, yes, whatca want
[11:41] <swaj> snozle, Adobe has a linux version of Adobe Reader if you wouldn't mind using that
[11:41] <ghost-elite> i need help enabling XGL.
[11:41] <Warbo> Sivik: Hmm. Seems a little out of my league sorry
[11:41] <barongas> Alternatively, it would be cool on info on how to change my $home back to what it was so that I can get into X and work from there...
[11:41] <swaj> barongas, not sure what that could be
[11:41] <Sivik> i will just reinstall
[11:41] <pennypacker> what we need id more game installers
[11:41] <snozle> swaj, would the free version let me edit fields?
[11:41] <SonicChao> ghostrider, This is for support, not random chatting, please see #ubuntu-offtopic for that. Thank you
[11:41] <ghost-elite> anyone  care to help?
[11:42] <swaj> snozle, if it's an editable PDF, it should
[11:42] <snozle> swaj, alright let me try
[11:42] <ghost-elite> need support for XGL.  read the posts..  have it installed and all the plugins installed.
[11:42] <ghost-elite> not sure how to enable it.
[11:42] <swaj> snozle, I know it works alright for me in Windows
[11:42] <ghostrider> Okay, cool. sorry for being a asshole
[11:42] <Flannel> ghostrider: #ubuntu-xgl
[11:42] <Dial_tone> anyone have vmware-player and vmware workstation on the same box? just wondered if there are any conflicts
[11:42] <ghost-elite> ghost-elite you mean.  lol
[11:42] <Sivik> Warbo: after i install the server, how do i need to go about installing an X, last time i did it, i didn't have any problem
[11:42] <ghost-elite> #ubuntu-xgl
[11:43] <Flannel> ghostrider: /join #ubuntu-xgl
[11:43] <barongas> Anyone know how to change my $home global from terminal?
[11:43] <soundray> ghostrider: no problem. Don't be too self-deprecating about it ;)
[11:43] <Flannel> ack.  ghost-elite, thats for you too.  Sorry ghostrider
[11:43] <SonicChao> ghostrider, 'tis okay :)
[11:43] <_absolution_> why am I getting a "failed to open file (usr/share/blahblahblah/)"??
[11:43] <dashrilla> tks again
[11:43] <Sivik> Warbo: is it a problem if my / and /home are logical drives?
[11:44] <monomaniacpat> Can someone remind me of the syntax for cvs?
[11:44] <ghostrider> don't know exactly where i am
[11:44] <_absolution_> I tried to get a version of something
[11:44] <Sivik> !cvs
[11:44] <ubotu> cvs is the Concurrent Versions System, the dominant open-source network-transparent version control system; it helps to manage releases and to control concurrent editing of source files among multiple authors. See: https://www.cvshome.org/
[11:44] <SonicChao> ghostrider, You are in #ubuntu, for Ubuntu support.Ubuntu is a linux operating system, what do you MEAN you don't know where you are?
[11:44] <bud_> hello
[11:44] <barongas> help
[11:44] <barongas> mistype
[11:44] <swaj> snozle, there seems to be a package in the universe repo called "acroread" that might work -- sudo apt-get install acroread
[11:45] <SonicChao> Good.
[11:45] <SonicChao> XD
[11:45] <Sivik> Warbo: is that a problem? to have my / and /home partiation as logical?
[11:45] <bud_> my xkb doesnt work
[11:45] <soundray> Sivik: no, shouldn't be a problem.
[11:45] <kalosaurusrex> cvs up
[11:45] <bud_> problem is when i type setxkbmap hr
[11:45] <aXanaXa> anyone have any more suggestions about my apt problems?  Basically I am just running apt-get update with my sources being the normal default sources that came with the distro that I downloaded today. I can connect to the network fine and access these sources through my web browser.  The proxy settings are set to false in apt.conf.  It basically says connection failed [IP: x.x.x.x] 
[11:45] <Sivik> soundray: well, thats how i had it and it seemed to be a problem
[11:45] <bud_> i get Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[11:45] <bud_> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc101' layout - 'us'
[11:45] <bud_> Segmentation fault
[11:45] <Warbo> Sivik: I think it is fine if they are logical or extended partitions, or even logical volumes (as long as you have a regular /boot)
[11:45] <JanHammer> does anyone know a linux program that can record video of what you're doing?
[11:46] <concept10> Anyone know the difference between the linux-server package and linux-686-smp??
[11:46] <soundray> Sivik: you mean your X not starting?
[11:46] <Sivik> Warbo: i have a primary boot
[11:46] <Sivik> soundray: yes
[11:46] <SonicChao> !patience
[11:46] <ubotu> The people in this IRC channel are volunteers. Please be patient and polite. The IRC guidelines can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[11:46] <Sivik> soundray, there wasn't anyhthing in my /home folder
[11:46] <pjf1> ugrade kernel won't load.  Any thought on a fix?
[11:46] <bud_> anyone know where is the problem
[11:46] <soundray> Sivik: if your install location was a problem, it would show earlier and differently.
[11:46] <swaj> snozle, I can confirm that acroread is indeed the official Adobe Reader ubuntu package.  Just installed it myself and it works great
[11:46] <Sivik> soundray, then why was it not writing files to my /home/user folder?
[11:46] <_absolution_> is it normal to get an error message "couldn't connect to Xserver'" under root?
[11:46] <JanHammer> does anyone know a linux program that can record video of what you're doing? ^_^
[11:46] <soundray> Sivik: $HOME is empty by default (except for some hidden files copied from /etc/skel at setup time)
[11:46] <galorin> JanHammer, might not be the exact name, but I've seen something like vnc2swf, which takes a VNC connection and records it in a swf file
[11:46] <Warbo> Sivik: I used to use logical volumes all of the time (Fedora uses them by default, and when I switched to Debian and Ubuntu I began using 2 drives so I carried on with it)
[11:47] <Sivik> warbo: ok
[11:47] <_absolution_> I tried "fbrun"....and I got that message
[11:47] <Sivik> Warbo: after i install the server, what do i need to install to get a gui
[11:47] <SonicChao> JanHammer, you need a webcam
[11:47] <JanHammer> galorin, O_o sounds a bit overcomplicated for something so simple
[11:47] <barongas> I'm sorry if I have to repeat myself but I don't know how to scroll up and check for replies in this text client. Anyone know how to change my $home variable from shell?
[11:47] <CarlFK> JanHammer: yes - called a screen recorder - there is a VNC thing that will do it ... just a sec
[11:47] <Starl1ng> JanHammer: I think there is something that could record a vnc-session... Think it is called vncrec or something...
[11:47] <_absolution_> "startx"??
[11:48] <SonicChao> JanHammer, oh sorry, I thought you MENT what you're really doing. Can't help you there :(
[11:48] <soundray> barongas: export HOME=/new/path (but it will mess things up badly)
[11:48] <cguima> Hello
[11:48] <JanHammer> SonicChao, haha, nope
[11:48] <galorin> JanHammer, looks like most of the solutions will involve VNC in one way or another
[11:48] <cguima> can somebody help me on a wireless subject?
[11:48] <JanHammer> galorin, not a problem, just need to know a good VNC server for ubuntu
[11:48] <phoul> 'ello
[11:48] <barongas> soundray how badly? I want to change it to my old home where all is well
[11:48] <Warbo> Sivik: xserver-xorg will give you X, then you just need the desktop you want (if it is something simple like e16 or fluxbox then you just need one package, but something like GNOME or KDE will probably need a few. X should start fine with only xserver-xorg though)
[11:48] <monomaniacpat> OK cvshome is down: can anyone tell me what command I need to enter to get a cvs file?
[11:48] <SonicChao> cguima, what's the problem?
[11:49] <Starl1ng> JanHammer: I also think that vlc (not vnc) has something to use the screen as input and then maybe save to file... But I never used it...and it might only be available in Windows..
[11:49] <Sivik> Warbo: yeah, i'm going to use e16
[11:49] <cguima> my problem is that i have a wireless device
[11:49] <SonicChao> JanHammer, Wink!
[11:49] <CarlFK> JanHammer: http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf and http://www.debugmode.com/wink/
[11:49] <SonicChao> Now I remember!
[11:49] <Warbo> Sivik: All you need is xserver-xorg and enlightenment then (as package names)
[11:49] <Sivik> Warbo: thats how i had it
[11:49] <cguima> and i can't find drivers for it
[11:49] <soundray> barongas: what did you do to change it in the first place?
[11:49] <patch> hello all
[11:49] <SonicChao> JanHammer, let me get you a link
[11:49] <cguima> in order to work with linux
[11:49] <ardchoille> patch: hi
[11:49] <JanHammer> SonicChao, they just linked wink ^_^
[11:50] <JanHammer> thanks anyway though
[11:50] <cguima> it is a SMC pcmcia device
[11:50] <galorin> JanHammer, Might see if vnc2swf is in a repo, and let it pick for you.  You won't be recording over a network so most of the issues with VNC go out the window
[11:50] <SonicChao> JanHammer, sorry, I was extremely confused, it's busy
[11:50] <Warbo> Sivik: I set up a Debian system with XFree86 and E16 yesterday, and that was all that was needed (but I wrote a custom boot script to log in automatically)
[11:50] <SonicChao> JanHammer, sorry
[11:50] <barongas> soundray I changed it in the user settings, I copied all files there and etc but for some reason I don't own my new home and can't login
[11:50] <_absolution_> how do I get "~/.fluxbox/......." to work??
[11:50] <Sivik> thats cool
[11:50] <patch> could anyone please help. i need to install grub on a /boot partition because i am about to reinstall XP and that will 'fix' my mbr and i wont be able to boot into linux
[11:50] <_absolution_> anybody?
[11:50] <Warbo> _absolution_: "to work"?
[11:50] <_absolution_> yeah I can't seem to find them
[11:50] <ardchoille> _absolution_: you trying to get fluxbox to work?
[11:51] <_absolution_> yes
[11:51] <SonicChao> _absolution_, yse nUbuntu
[11:51] <soundray> barongas: are you logged in with root rights right now?
[11:51] <Sivik> !tell patch about grub
[11:51] <Jimme1> !grub
[11:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:51] <Warbo> _absolution_: Have you run fluxbox as that user before?
[11:51] <barongas> soundray no, as user
[11:51] <barongas> soundray only in shell
[11:51] <ardchoille> _absolution_: fluxbox is a window manager. Log out, then choose it instead of gnome or kde, then log back in and it should work.
[11:51] <anderbubble> what caches the device names for network devices? For example, I have wireless and wired pcmcia cards. They are always the same name (e.g., eth0 vs eth1). What does that.
[11:51] <_absolution_> yeah i'm already running it
[11:51] <soundray> barongas: so you can still log in, but can't start X?
[11:52] <barongas> soundray I can start X but not log into gnome
[11:52] <_absolution_> but I want to add some eyecandy to it
[11:52] <Warbo> _absolution_: And "ls ~/.fluxbox" says nothing?
[11:52] <JanHammer> bah, this isn't what I meant, I need a program that takes full video of the screen
[11:52] <JanHammer> not just actions
[11:52] <soundray> barongas: what's the path to the new location of your home?
[11:52] <LjL> anderbubble: hmm, i think it's just the order the drivers are loaded in
[11:53] <barongas> soundray /mnt/shared/home
[11:53] <LjL> anderbubble: i've got four ethernet cards installed, and if i shuffle them around in the PCI bus, the respective names change.
[11:53] <anderbubble> LjL: it's not, cause if I pull the device out, and plug the in, no matter what order, they're always the same.
[11:53] <_absolution_> ahh there they are
[11:53] <anderbubble> LjL: maybe it's special for pcmcia
[11:54] <LjL> anderbubble: what if you *boot* the system with one one device (the one that's normally eth1, namely) plugged in, possibly in the slot you normally plug in the other
[11:54] <barongas> soundray the reason I can't log in is because of me not owning my home folder, my .dmrc file and it's permission is not 644
[11:54] <soundray> barongas: 1. Run 'chmod -R barongas.barongas /mnt/shared/home' and make sure the line in /etc/passwd that starts with barongas has /mnt/shared/home as the sixth field.
[11:54] <LjL> anderbubble: s/one one/only one/
[11:54] <anderbubble> LjL: even then
[11:55] <h3sp4wn> barongas: Did you use sudo -s ever ? That causes that sometimes
[11:55] <soundray> barongas: 2. (there is no 2, sorry ;)
[11:55] <_absolution_> I see "backgrounds......styles"....there
[11:55] <anderbubble> LjL: I can only have one plugged in at a time, anyway, because of physical constraints
[11:55] <pjf1> System upgraded to kernel 2.6.15-25-386 won't load, can still use kernel 2.6.15-23-386.  How I reinstall/remove the broken kernel version?
[11:55] <_absolution_> so does that mean it's working....lol
[11:55] <anderbubble> LjL: and if I have my wired card in, it's always eth1
[11:55] <soundray> h3sp4wn: no, he tried to move the location of his home.
[11:55] <monomaniacpat> should you always use sudo for make or only when in admin folders?
[11:55] <anderbubble> monomaniacpat: only use sudo when installing
[11:56] <BCK14> how can i reset my iptables to default ?
[11:56] <BCK14> ?
[11:56] <monomaniacpat> fangs
[11:56] <h3sp4wn> soundray: And copied everything as root ?
[11:56] <anderbubble> monomaniacpat: you can do the whole make as a normal user
[11:56] <snozle> I installed all of my updates and restarted and now my speakers arent't working, any ideas?
[11:56] <soundray> h3sp4wn: don't know, but I suspect it. Either that, or /etc/passwd is screwed up.
[11:56] <disant>  
[11:56] <disant> oops wrong channel
[11:57] <barongas> soundray it's not allowed to change owners, even with sudo, I didn't catch that thing in the file in /etc if you could repeat that also
[11:57] <LjL> anderbubble: i think your answer is /etc/iftab
[11:57] <Jemt> Greetz. i have a problem with my wireless network card (Cisco, based on the Aironet chipset). When I reboot, the network card is not detected, even though the module 'airo' is listed in 'lsmod'. When I remove the module (rmmod airo) and reload it again (modprobe airo), the card is found just fine. What's wrong ?
[11:57] <disant> Jemt, rebuild your boot image
[11:57] <soundray> barongas: make sure the line in /etc/passwd that starts with barongas has /mnt/shared/home as the sixth field.
[11:57] <disant> mkinitrd
[11:58] <Jemt> disant: Boot image? Kernel ?
[11:58] <fowlduck> is there a good way to programmatically check if the system is running ubuntu?
[11:58] <soundray> barongas: that only makes sense if you have the correct permissions on the new home, though.
[11:58] <disant> yeah... so it loads the modules on startup
[11:58] <disant> 'man mkinitrd'
[11:58] <CarlFK> apt-get install vmare-player errored, and now every time I apt-get install anything, it tries to install the player again.  how to I undo my request for the player?
[11:58] <LjL> fowlduck: ?
[11:58] <soundray> barongas: what type of filesystem is the new home location in?
[11:58] <disant> Jemt, or just write a script and put it in init.d
[11:58] <LjL> CarlFK: try apt-get -f install
[11:58] <disant> /etc/init.d
[11:59] <Jemt> disant: Yes, that was a possibility
[11:59] <fowlduck> LjL: is there any file or something stating that this machine is running ubuntu?
[11:59] <barongas> soundray fat32.... hmmm... bad?
[11:59] <CarlFK> ljl: ill try
[11:59] <soundray> barongas: yes, bad ;)
[11:59] <Jemt> disant: Everything in /etc/init.d is executed at startup ?
[11:59] <fowlduck> LjL: uname just gives you gnu/linux
[11:59] <disant> Jemt, "was"?
[11:59] <LjL> fowlduck: not sure what you're aiming at... but /etc/issue perhaps
[11:59] <Jemt> disant: Even though I don't like that sort of hacks
[11:59] <barongas> soundray can I just /etc/passwd it back to my old /home/barongas?
[11:59] <Jemt> disant: Is, sorry :)
[11:59] <disant> its not a hack you dont need your wireless untill its fully booted anyways
[11:59] <soundray> barongas: yes, if you haven't deleted the content there, it should be fine.
[12:00] <Jemt> disant: You can use "was" in my language, directly translated. By bad :)
[12:00] <fowlduck> LjL: similar to that, but not one that can be so easily changed
[12:00] <patrick_king> how do i link swat to samba
[12:00] <Jemt> disant: By bad = My bad :)
[12:00] <Jemt> disant: Is everything in /etc/init.d is executed at startup ?
[12:00] <LjL> fowlduck: it can only be changed by the administrator... and if one *is* the administrator, *anything* can be hanged