=== Laser_away is now known as LaserJock [12:13] dang it is amazing how many folks in #ltsp are using some form of Ubuntu [12:20] hehe [12:21] we're _the_ ltsp distro :P === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === mhz is now known as mhz_cook === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #edubuntu [01:42] Howdy === mhz_cook is now known as mhz [02:26] \o/ - my edubuntu CD's have arrived [02:26] hoo-rah [02:27] shame there's no LiveCD :( [02:28] but i can understand the economics [02:28] I managed to grab 1 each of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and Edubuntu in Paris [02:29] and a little roll of stickers ;-) [02:29] ooh yes the stickers are a nice unexpected bonus [02:30] yes === lecaros [n=JoseLeca@35-13-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === chris-t4 [n=chris-t4@c-67-172-198-97.hsd1.tx.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [i=sbalneav@S0106000b6a5631f9.wp.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:08] I am updating my Edubuntu flash videos, but found out that the mp3 format wasn't supported by default in Edubuntu. I can leave the audio uncompressed or use ADPCM. Would it be best to leave the audo uncompressed so that new users can veiw my content more easily? http://www.learningelectric.com/edubuntu.html [03:09] is ogg vorbis absolutely out of the question? [03:10] I can find no way to convert audio and video from AVI to OGG [03:16] Do you think most Edubuntu users intall mp3 capability or would I be leaving out most new users? === th1a [n=th1a@pool-70-105-191-234.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:19] I think it's safe to assume that clueful desktop users will install support for mp3 [03:19] I wouldn't assume that most users, however, would do that. [03:21] Thanks, although it will create larger file sizes I think I will leave them uncompressed. My main purpose is to make these for non technical teachers and new usrers. [03:22] if you can test that it plays on a default Edubuntu install, that would help immensely. === infamy [n=Infamy@CPE005004804d2e-CM014090207037.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #edubuntu === infamy [n=Infamy@CPE005004804d2e-CM014090207037.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #edubuntu [] [03:23] I will do that, although it will require downloading flash. [03:25] err, it will require a teacher to install Flash? [03:28] Unfortunatly, yes. Luckily when they click on the video Firefox takes them to the page to download the plugin with some pretty good instructions. [03:30] that won't work. [03:30] they need to install the flashplugin-nonfree package. [03:31] that's why having them install more stuff is suboptimal [03:33] I don't know of any easier format that these type of videos can be produced in for Edubuntu. Any recomendations? [03:35] Do you mean that it is not advisable or that it won't work, because it did install for me this way and then played the videos very well. [03:41] it's not the recommended route [03:42] but if that's what works easiest for your target audience, then go with it [03:42] Thank you crimsun. You have been helpful. [03:51] np === bddebian hugs crimsun :-) === LaserJock leaves the room === bddebian grabs LaserJock for a hug too.. ;-P [03:57] LaserJock: I just like doing that 'cause crimsun hates me :-) [03:59] lol [04:03] geez, bddebian cooties. [04:04] better go bathe in my pony bubble bath [04:04] heh [04:04] lol === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #edubuntu [04:07] i was wondering if edubuntu having huge icons was a known bug, and where i look for it - presumably one of the icon packages? [04:08] huge? [04:09] 3 or 4 times the 'default' size before i upgraded one of the theme/icon packages [04:09] and it is only Edubuntu? [04:10] my ubuntu box is fine. it could be the garnome icon set... hm. *looks at theme settings* [04:10] seems like I remember people muttering something like that in Ubuntu [04:11] i switched theme to 'edubuntu plain' and the icons sized down to the right size, then i switched back to edubuntu colours, and that sized up again. so its the icons related === adamant1988 [n=adam@h-141-153-101-86.ckb.meer.net] has joined #edubuntu [04:11] hi all [04:11] hey :) [04:12] I'm just curious, what grade level would you guys say edubuntu is best suited for? === Kamping_Kaiser only uses it on his comp, so not sure sorry :) [04:14] hmm, I'd say elementary school, but I'm no teacher [04:16] adamant1988: http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/school-advocacy/C/ has maybe a better overview of the apps [04:17] Well see, I'm a senior in HS. and I want to suggest either Ubuntu or Edubuntu to them... [04:17] a highschool? Ubuntu [04:18] well, you can install other apps after you install [04:18] the big thing about Edubuntu is it is easy to build a LTSP thin client computer lab [04:19] which is nice for schools [04:22] cant you just install the ltsp gear into ubuntu (i havent done ltsp since sarge) [04:22] yeah [04:22] but the Edubuntu cd automatically does it [04:22] so it's easier to do via an Edubuntu CD [04:24] true, i suppose it comes down to wehter you install new as needed+hide existing under edubuntu or install ltsp+other under ubuntu in this case :) [04:25] more or less === Kamping_Kaiser hugs his workstation edubuntu install [04:33] ogra: der pingen === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === th1a [n=th1a@pool-70-105-191-234.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === th1a|X60s [n=th1a@pool-70-105-191-234.alt.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage peeks in === Kamping_Kaiser casts level 3 trimming on HedgeMage === HedgeMage makes a will save and resists [08:19] grrr. i used up all my mana === Kamping_Kaiser dips into his karma reserve [08:20] heh [08:20] ;) [08:20] Kamping_Kaiser: you'd like how karma works in Earthdawn better, especially if you're a windling. :P [08:21] hehe. [08:21] === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === xbl [n=xbl@210.213.180.158] has joined #edubuntu [08:46] good day! [08:47] just want to ask... what are the things ubuntu has that edubuntu hasn't [08:59] brown, everywhere ;) [09:00] j/k [09:00] Ubuntu and Edubuntu are very similar, and they share the same repos so everything available on one is available for the other. [09:01] They have different default apps and different theming and such (plus Edubuntu is head-and-shoulders above with LTSP) but other than that they are pretty much the same === mhz is now known as mhz_offline === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === ldayot [n=ldayot@194.250.173.157] has joined #edubuntu === ldayot [n=ldayot@194.250.173.157] has left #edubuntu ["Konversation] === rohan [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/rohan] has joined #edubuntu [10:14] hi all [10:14] there is not edubuntu live cd ?] === rohan [n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/rohan] has left #edubuntu [] [10:21] yes there is === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === RafaRamos [n=rafael@201-0-62-236.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #edubuntu === RafaRamos [n=rafael@201-0-62-236.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #edubuntu ["Fui] === jinty [n=jinty@83-65-231-90.work.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@nat-pool-bos.redhat.com] has joined #edubuntu === triplah [n=tripped@ppp122-81.lns1.bne3.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu [11:20] howdy [11:21] I have a question about edubuntu, I'm doing a study on the possibility of using edubuntu as the main software for a not-for-profit company providing unified computer systems to schools [11:21] possibly using LTSP as well [11:21] i'm just wondering if anyone knows of companies or organisations that are doing this already? === DanielC thinks [11:23] Using edubuntu: yes. Using it as the *main* software: no. [11:23] hmm [11:24] I use Ubuntu as my only software, but other people in this company use Windows. [11:24] well i was thinking more iin labs etc [11:24] for student use [11:24] This is a small 7-person company. 2 of use use Ubuntu and the others use Windows. [11:24] not to replace admin type software [11:24] Ok, that's better :) [11:25] We setup Edubuntu at a local school. But it's still not their main software. [11:25] To be honest, it's really just an internet cafe. [11:25] my idea was basically to let the school pay for the rent of a big hardware rig to do the ltsp stuff, and pay for the service of maintenance etc [11:25] ahh [11:26] it'd be cheaper to do that, and use edubuntu on existing hardware than to upgrade to vista for example [11:26] Yes. [11:26] With this school we got to reuse old PCs that they were going to throw away. [11:26] yep, nice === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b964d5.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [11:48] Where would be a good place to ask a licensing question? [11:49] Is there an #ubuntu-legal or something? [11:49] whats the legal question? edubuntu related? [11:50] it's Ubuntu-general. I can't find in the ISOs a written offer to provide the sources. [11:50] The GPL requires that either you provide the sources or that you provide a written offer to give the sources for the cost of distribution. [11:51] The reason I ask is that we, as re-distributors can re-use that written offer so that *we* are not required to provide sources if we don't modify the code (this is section 3(c) ). [11:52] umm okay, im way out of league for that then [11:52] I just wanted to know that installing Edubuntu for someone or giving them a CD wouldn't be technically GPL incompliant. [11:52] No problem :) [11:52] try asking in -devel [11:53] its not really off-topic imo [11:53] Ok. Is that a mailing list? ubuntu-devel@... ? [11:53] yeah [11:53] Ok, will do. Thanks. [11:53] or maybe sounder is more appropriate [11:53] What is sounder? [11:54] jsgotangco: hey! I am done [11:54] ? [11:54] you can now push your changes to sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blatant-and-awkward/gnome-app-install/main/ [11:54] whoa, I pushed for more than one hour :/ [11:54] mehhhh [11:54] i'll push at home tonight [11:54] * jsgotangco reminds glatzor that he still has a 9-5 job [11:54] Jerome's Branch branch [11:54] The latest bits direct from Manila [11:54] doh [11:54] ee [11:54] crap [11:54] sorry [11:54] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/sounder [11:54] Ok, thanks. === pips1 [n=philipp@136.157.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [12:04] I see that there are mailing lists specific to Edubuntu. Are those used much? === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA2 [n=chevron_@203.161.101.141.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === B4zzA [n=chevron_@203.161.101.141.static.amnet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [01:25] DanielC: ping [01:25] pong [01:25] the offer is printed on the back of the CD sleeve. Is that what you're looking for? [01:25] Yes. Thanks. [01:26] That would make Canonical GPL compliant. [01:26] Hmm... now I need to decide how I can use that to be GPL compliant myself. [01:27] The GPL section 3(c) simply says "Accompany it with the information you received as to the offer to distribute corresponding source code." [01:27] "Source code for Ubuntu can be downloaded from archive.ubuntu.com or can be ordered from Canonical at the cost of the media and shipping" [01:27] Ok. [01:27] (from the sleeve) === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu [01:27] Maybe I can just put a copy of that in a README file. [01:27] I wonder if that would be enough to become GPL compliant. I think that it would. [01:28] If it doesn't, I can at least say that I was acting in good faith (I am). [01:28] yep, you're certainly not alone in handing them out at conferences :) [01:28] :-) [01:29] Edubuntu featured at a big Education Expo in Sydney on the weekend [01:29] I think it would be good for Canonical to put a README file in the CD with that notice. [01:29] That way re-distributors would be automatically GPL compliant, via section 3(c) (by forwarding Canonical's offer). [01:30] yes i thought that might be what you were looking for, hence my initial question :) === DanielC adds a sources notice to his custom live cd ISO. [01:33] bimberi: it was ? I'd have liked to see that === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [01:37] hi Yagisan, http://lists.linux.org.au/archives/linux-aus/2006-June/msg00174.html === bimberi couldn't go either === Yagisan really should get back to study [01:39] 3 weeks to learn C++ [01:39] :-/ [01:46] why? [01:56] ************* Reminder edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes *************** [01:57] Thanks. I'll be an observer again. [02:01] ************* Reminder edubuntu meeting in #ubuntu-meeting starts now *************** === irvin [n=ipp@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu [02:23] DanielC: I was given an exemption on programming basics, because I've done the work. I however have done it in a different language to what the uni choose for the course [02:24] so I need to learn C++ in 3 weeks, before intermediate programming begins [02:24] ok [02:24] I assume you at least know C already. [02:24] DanielC: not at all =-O [02:25] so this will be fun === Yagisan whips self harder [02:25] Ooops... [02:25] I'll let you study then. [02:26] DanielC: hah, I wish the kids would let me === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === sbalneav [n=sbalneav@mail.legalaid.mb.ca] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] ogra, if someone could get just a brief description to AliasVegas, she'd love to have a think about it....we had a very bad week but she'll have time now to consider it properly [03:01] who is AliasVegas [03:01] ? === mhz [n=mhz@pc-130-84-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:01] AliasVegas is cbx33 wife, as far as i understand [03:02] hey jsgotangco === mode/#edubuntu [-o highvoltage] by highvoltage [03:02] highvoltage: yo [03:03] jsgotangco: word up homie [03:03] :p === jsgotangco has bad days since coming home [03:03] s/has/had [03:03] i've been swamped with admin. i'm not even getting to my real work :( [03:04] ive been like trying to save my sanity, career and family :P [03:04] highvoltage, :-( [03:05] highvoltage, are you still working full-time? or was your request for part-time considered? [03:06] jsgotangco, exactly like what it's been here too [03:06] jsgotangco, cbx33 I hear you [03:07] on the family side we've had lost of stuff going on, but i think ti's all resolved now [03:07] I should have a lot more time [03:07] right I have to pop out [03:07] I'll be back later guys [03:07] cbx33, cu [03:08] well ive been hating my job more and more lately [03:09] but on the other side, its what pays me so === flint [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-93.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:09] i cannot hate my present job fully [03:10] jsgotangco, that is a real shame, you need to hate your job. It is the way of things... [03:10] i still have the moral responsibility to love it not for myself but for family [03:10] pips1: i'm still working full time, i might be able to go part time in the new company in about two months (maybe slightly sooner) [03:10] jsgotangco, ah that is the tender trap. [03:10] highvoltage, you get any mail from me yet Jonathan? [03:10] full time jobs are just so time consuming :) [03:10] flint: perhaps i should stop thinking of myself more === highvoltage checks [03:11] jsgotangco, no you must remember that you and I are merely pain sensors hurtling towards distruction, and that is on a good day! :^) [03:12] pips1: do you want to talk about features or content? [03:12] perhaps that too [03:12] pips1: do you still have your account? [03:12] yep [03:12] highvoltage, no mail yet eh? [03:13] flint: no, no mail from you yet === jsgotangco will probably go and play some videogames later just to get sleepy and forget about today [03:13] highvoltage, damn smtp, (it is clearly the protocol that is out to get me... :^) [03:13] highvoltage, I'd like to enable more people contributing content the the site [03:13] I'll be paying very little attention to irc on the next few hours (drafting plans), please ping me if you need to talk to me [03:13] i wish i had games. i think i'll buy a console for myself for Christmas :) [03:14] pips1: great! [03:14] highvoltage, games are the heroin of our world. [03:14] highvoltage, so in a way, I want to talk about features that enable more content ;-) [03:15] pips1: ok. can we do that tomorrow on this channel? [03:15] highvoltage: they are my only true valuables i have next to my car [03:15] jsgotangco: heh. what car do you have? [03:15] sbalneav, das pongen :) [03:15] highvoltage: a rotten old korean car [03:15] jsgotangco, what kind of car you have? [03:16] flint: kia picanto [03:16] highvoltage, tomorrow sounds fine, what time? [03:16] jsgotangco, you mentioned a family, any (god forbid) kids? [03:16] ogra: Hey hey! [03:16] ah. i have a rotten old german car. it's a vw citi golf. [03:16] what can i do for you ? [03:16] It's like, what, 2 AM there? [03:16] flint: my child is the center of the universe [03:16] jsgotangco, kia gets good mileage... [03:16] sbalneav, 3pm [03:16] you pinged at 4:30am :) [03:17] heh [03:17] flint: damn right it should its a 1.1l engine [03:17] jsgotangco, in ritual I need to hope that this child looks like his mom :^) [03:17] Was wondering if we could set up some time say, tomorrow at maybe this time to give me a bzr walkthrough. [03:17] jsgotangco, you are a luck man. [03:17] I'd do it now, but I've got a database mess to clean up here at work. [03:18] pips1: any time that would suite you, i should be here all day, and be able to give you attention almost any time [03:18] sbalneav, the DC LOCO maniacs are very good at bzr training. Try to get hold of them... [03:18] sbalneav, tomorrow this time is fine, we have dev status meeting at 16:00UTC so we have to be finished by then [03:18] A cheque run got messed up, and I've got 62 cheques to manually patch up. That sounds fine. That'd give us an hour? I think? [03:19] sbalneav, i have to shuffle around the ubuntu ltsp branches anyway, so we can work with them === sbalneav madly calculates time differences. [03:19] sudo apt-get install gworldclock :) [03:19] highvoltage, when you get that email, please shoot me a note in response saying you got it. [03:19] flint: will do === highvoltage checks again [03:20] sbalneav, its now 13:19 UTC so there is pleanty of hours until 16:00 UTC [03:20] date -u is your friend for utc dates :) [03:21] highvoltage, ok, I'll speak to you tomorrow about website then, in the mean time, please have a look at https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuSiteFeatures [03:21] just got gworldclock. handy. [03:21] brb, being work-pinged [03:22] ogra, while i am in a whineing, we really need an analog clockface on gworld clock, or better yet a co-co analog! [03:22] ogra, I know I will get right on it... [03:22] flint, you mean a CIA headquaters setup ? :) [03:23] a row of analog clocks [03:23] ? [03:24] ogra, that is a REALLY good idea. Seriously. [03:24] haha [03:24] feel free, patches gratefully accepted :) [03:26] talking about clocks, I did a demo of edubuntu and the user launched a clock game in gcompris which has a really buggy behaviour :-( [03:26] pips1, bug it :) [03:26] ogra, ollie, I am filling Jonathan's head with lies on another channel, but thanks for a good meeting. [03:27] and for quick stuff go to #gcompris :) [03:27] it tries to teach kids analog clocks, but it behaves like a (digitally) bugy one, what irony [03:27] ;-) [03:28] i guess it's teaching them a "real life" lesson about software there [03:28] ogra, sure [03:29] heh === pips1 googles for gcompris bug tracker [03:30] file it in malone [03:30] ah [03:30] i'll forward [03:30] ok, better, since We're Sorry. [03:30] The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance. [03:30] We will be back shortly [03:30] ;-) === flint [n=flint@montpeliervt-cuda1-24-50-146-93.sbtnvt.adelphia.net] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] [03:38] ogra, I'm not actually sure if it is a bug or a feature (in gcompris) [03:39] ogra, do you have edubuntu running to have a quick look for yourself? [03:39] file it and find out :) [03:39] i dont have the edu apps installed on this machine [03:39] Go to 'Amusement activities > Learning Clock' (i.e. click on the 'propeller hat' and then click on the 'wrist watch'). [03:39] oic [03:41] basically, you are supposed to set a given time. you can drag the 'clock hands', but unlike a real analogue wrist watch, the 'hour dial' flicks back an hour when you did a 360 degree dragging of the 'minute dial'... [03:42] does that sound like a feature or like a bug? anyone? :-) [03:43] ogra, there is no #gcompris on freenode... === pips1 shuts up and googles [03:43] hmm, i was there several times === pips1 really wonders what's the quickest and most efficient route to address this issue/question for gcompris... [03:47] hmm, the gcompris website isn't too helpful... [03:51] ahh the mighty gcompris, the app that could take down xorg [03:56] even the source is nearly as big as xorg :) [03:57] hehe [04:04] I finished drafting that gcompris bug report, but I dare not submit it... the original programmer would hate me for the rest of my life! ;-D [04:04] Learning Clock: unlike a real analogue wrist watch, the 'hour dial' "jumps back" an hour when you dragged the 'minute dial' by 360 degrees... feature or bug? [04:04] In gcompris, go to 'Amusement activities > Learning Clock' (i.e. click on the 'propeller hat' and then click on the 'wrist watch'). [04:04] As far as I understood, this activity is supposed to teach kids how to set the time on an analogue clock dial. However, unlike a real analogue wrist watch, the 'hour dial' "jumps back" an hour when you dragged the 'minute dial' by 360 degrees clockwise, and vice-versa, it "jumps forward" when dragging 360 degrees counter-clockwise ... is this a feature or bug? [04:04] Personally, I think it's quite ironic that this activity tries to teach kids analogue clocks by displaying buggy (digital) behaviour... But I guess it teaches kids some "real life" lesson about software bugs and warped minds of programmers. ;-) [04:05] . [04:05] maybe I should omit that last sentence. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [04:08] oppressing silence weighs down heavily on pips1 until he is paper thin [04:08] http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/photos/UDS-Paris/P6180023.JPG.html [04:08] hehe! [04:08] Hello [04:09] jsgotangco, nice one :-) [04:09] yeah at the tower heh [04:09] yeah, very cool [04:11] jsgotangco, do you think I should omit that thing about "warped minds of programmers" in my bug report? [04:11] hmm yeah [04:11] it can be offensive to some [04:11] hehe, yeah, I thinks so too [04:11] jsgotangco: very cool pic! === pips1 deletes the last sentence [04:11] highvoltage: har har har === chris-t4 [n=ChrisC@65.120.148.3] has joined #edubuntu [04:13] hi all === mhz has just got back and is about to run away again [04:13] jsgotangco: I have just read newsweek letter [04:14] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/gcompris/+bug/51211 [04:14] mhz: well it was a bit late [04:14] ^^^ for the record [04:14] jsgotangco: how or where could I get the 'letter' in advance , so I can have time to translate it? [04:15] mhz: from mgalvin [04:16] eeeek! he is on many channels! [04:16] :D [04:16] jsgotangco: thx [04:17] mgalvin: hi there [04:18] heh === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@67.108.61.130] has joined #edubuntu [04:30] ogra: ping === mhz is now known as mhz_oofline === mhz_oofline is now known as mhz_offline [04:33] :) [04:33] c ya === dan_young [n=dyoung@fw11x.mesd.k12.or.us] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === myriams [n=myriams@156-233.cable.senselan.ch] has joined #edubuntu === Reimu [n=chatzill@HSE-Toronto-ppp286550.sympatico.ca] has joined #edubuntu [05:27] what are the main differences between ubuntu and edubuntu [05:28] edubuntu is a complete LTSP solution from the ground up [05:29] but you have a choice to install edubuntu as a standalone workstation if you want to [05:30] Reimu: Do you know what thin clients are? [05:30] DanielC: no [05:30] Because that's what Edubuntu is about... [05:30] Ok, so LTSP won't make sense to you... [05:31] Thin clients are very minimalistic computers. [05:31] No hard disk. [05:31] ok [05:31] Usually a low-power processsor, little RAM. [05:31] All the applications run from a server. [05:31] All that the client does is draw the screen. [05:31] so edubuntu supports that? [05:31] That's why they are "thin" [05:31] Yes. [05:31] That's what Edubuntu is about. [05:32] Thin clients are useful in schools. [05:32] I see [05:32] so its mainly for networks and stuff not one computer [05:33] You can use it for just one computer. [05:33] In that case, the main advantage is that it has educational games. [05:33] ok, but you could install them from a package on ubuntu correct? [05:34] Yes. And I think that package is called edubuntu-desktop [05:35] XD so the games is a whole different desktop interface? [05:35] thanks for the info, got to eat lunch [05:35] Nah... it uses gnome. [05:35] take care. [05:36] yes its called a metapackage [05:37] good night [05:38] night === Reimu [n=chatzill@HSE-Toronto-ppp286550.sympatico.ca] has left #edubuntu [] === linux_user400354 [n=chris@64-185-188-53.block2.gvtc.com] has joined #edubuntu [05:55] i have windows shared folders on the network. what do i have to do to see them? i click on Places > Network Servers > Windows Network > workgroup > then I get a message saying the folder contents can not be displayed. [06:04] Is it the same workgroup on both machines? [06:05] This was my problem. I had to change the workgroup on the linux machine to match the windows workgroup name. After that it worked fine. === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === mode/#edubuntu [+o highvoltage] by ChanServ === myriams is away: Away at the moment === myriams is now known as myriams_away [06:44] does the dvd version of edubuntu come with more software? === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu === DarkElf109 [i=darkelf@ip68-98-18-98.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:13] Hello there...does anyone know how to disable the hibernate button in the gnome shutdown dialog on client machines? [07:17] ogra: ^^^ should there even be a hibernate button on the thin client shutdown dialog? [07:18] I'd think not...before I changed the command, it tried to hibernate the server [07:19] Now, the button has about a 1 in 3 chance of locking the screen [07:19] Which I still don't understand, really [07:20] that's strange. [07:20] Actually, what would be really nice would be to bring back the shutdown and restart buttons, and remap them to some scripts I set up to shut down the clients through ltspinfo [07:20] Which is insecure, I know, but all console access is disabled to clients === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu === Xymor [i=enforcer@201.19.29.53] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=542de178@209.152.164.93] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu [08:16] Hiya peeps === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] ogra: is the bzr branch for scp [08:17] the current branch we are using? [08:17] I installed edubuntu 6.06 but I didn't see the ltsp install option, did I miss something? [08:17] Hi cbx33 [08:17] I was gonna download the source and familiarise myself === sbartleylinux [n=sbartley@67.108.61.130] has joined #edubuntu [08:17] Petaris: no [08:17] in a default install the ltsp chrrot is installed [08:17] check it [08:17] /opt/i386 [08:17] ok, then I should be able to boot a client [08:18] see if /opt has any files in it [08:18] hrm [08:18] thats not right [08:18] oh bugger [08:18] It installed an amd64 chroot [08:18] :/ === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu [08:19] is that changeable [08:19] so you have an amd64 server [08:19] and i386 clients? [08:19] yep [08:20] do a man for ltsp-build-client [08:20] ok [08:20] and on the wiki there is details for multi arch I think [08:20] I've never done it [08:20] but ogra would know for sure [08:25] Petaris: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPCrossArchSetup [08:25] dan_young: Thanks === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === linux_user400354 [n=chris@64-185-188-53.block2.gvtc.com] has left #edubuntu [] === linux_user400354 [n=chris@64-185-188-53.block2.gvtc.com] has joined #edubuntu [08:52] does the dvd iso of edubuntu come with more software? what is the difference between it and the cd iso? === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@88.121.138.9] has joined #edubuntu === linux_user400354 [n=chris@64-185-188-53.block2.gvtc.com] has left #edubuntu [] === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === blue-frog [n=bluefrog@88.121.112.74] has joined #edubuntu === Petaris [n=Petaris@216.56.37.162] has left #edubuntu ["Out"] === dan_young [n=dyoung@fw11x.mesd.k12.or.us] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [i=HedgeMag@freenode/staff/HedgeMage] has joined #edubuntu === myriams_away is back. === myriams_away is now known as myriams [10:35] :) === caravena [n=caravena@16-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === caravena_ [n=caravena@16-55-223-201.adsl.terra.cl] has joined #edubuntu === Rondom [n=Rondom@mrbg-d9b953ea.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #edubuntu === cbx33 [n=pete@ubuntu/member/cbx33] has joined #edubuntu [11:08]