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cborjb: i was guessing if you use mac filtering and some other was using it...12:08
rjbpower cycling helps in most cases though once isn't always enough12:08
rjbcbo: i explicitly set mac filtering off12:08
rjband enabled wpa-psk12:08
rjbonce it attaches it works great12:08
cborjb: it seems that the problem is in the AP side, but i've never heard of such problem in linksys routers...12:09
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rjbcbo: bad luck for me then. a problem i can't reproduce systematically is no good for a warranty claim ;-/12:11
cborjb: how many wifi clients do you have to make probes?12:12
rjbcbo: just 2 atm12:13
kubcbo: maybe it's impossible to enable the USB keyboard in my BIOS... do you know any boot manager with mouse support?12:13
v0taguzi have to upgrde my kernel of 386 to 686 anybody know do it ??12:13
cborjb: or, wired connections do always go ok?12:13
rjb..until i invite some friends over w/their laptops ;)12:13
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rjbcbo: not sure, i don't use the wired ports a lot12:14
cbokub: i think it would be better to get an usb-ps2 adapter if you can12:14
macdv0taguz: at konsole, 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'12:14
kubcbo: I see... thanks12:14
cborjb: you can try12:14
v0taguzmacd: Thanks12:15
v0taguz=)12:15
cbokub: but have you already look for this config in setup?12:15
rjbcbo: ok, i see there's no obvious answer12:15
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cborjb: i spent a lot of nights with a random problem i had with a router, at the end i found that it was overheating, the router did not hang, but was unable to keep it's ip for more thant 5 minutes12:16
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cborjb: so try putting yours upside-down! ;-)12:17
cborjb: really don't know, just trying to help12:17
DaSkreechHow do I get rid of "GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E" as an erro12:17
rjbcbo: eheheh12:17
kubcbo: not yet12:18
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cbokub: i'm pretty sure you will find it if you try12:18
h3sp4wnDaSkreech: INstall the public key of whoever has that repo12:18
kubcbo: I hope so12:18
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: What if I've done that already?12:18
kubcbo: I think so too12:19
h3sp4wnDaSKreech: Either it didn't work or something is wrong with it12:19
DaSkreechh3sp4wn: How can I tell if it didn't work?12:19
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h3sp4wnDaSkreech: Have a look in root's gpg keyring (I am trying to remember where its located)12:20
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rjbhow about this: how is gmail working with konqueror for you?12:21
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DaSkreechrjb: Yup12:22
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rjbi'd rather avoid firefox & stick to konqui, but my gmail addiction is holding me back12:22
srunnihey does any1 know how to associate the kmenu with the winkey?12:22
rjbDaSkreech: does 'send from alternate address' work for you? how about gmail chat?12:23
DaSkreechDon't use either sorry12:24
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rjbaah12:24
DaSkreechgnomefreak: Join us!!12:24
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DaSkreechrjb: did you lie?12:24
gnomefreak;)12:24
rjbDaSkreech: meaning?12:24
crazy_penguingood night to all. sleep weel. :)12:25
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DaSkreechrjb: Set Konquror to report itself as Firefox and all should work as planned12:25
linuxmonkeyrjb: gmail works fine in konqui for me, just change your browser identification12:25
DaSkreechNight crazy_penguin!12:25
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gnomefreakok i give :(12:26
rjbDaSkreech: not all, though *most* works12:26
rjbi mentioned 2 that don't12:26
rjbi was wondering if there is a "best" user-agent spoofing option12:27
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rjboh and google calendar fails totally in konq12:27
rjb(unless someone has a trick i haven't guessed yet)12:28
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BKajtrappist:  wow, strange , the konsole can't find chroot pkg yet it there in /usr/bin as palin as day ..WTF is goingon ?12:28
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rjbBKaj: /usr/bin/chroot is installed by the `coreutils' package12:29
h3sp4wnBKaj: You may want dchroot or schroot for an easier way12:30
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BKajok rjb,thx I'll try that12:31
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rjbBKaj: try what? ;-) coreutils is installed by default12:31
rjbbtw if you wanna know which package "owns" a file: dpkg -S /usr/bin/chroot (in a terminal window)12:32
BKajwell how do I implement coreutils to install chroot , then ?12:32
rjbBKaj: chroot is just a command12:33
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BKajok so it's like becoming root before running certain proggies...shoulda knaown DOH!12:34
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rjbBKaj: wrong12:35
rjbthat would be sudo (or su)12:35
BKajsu doesn'rt work , but sudo does12:36
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rjbchroot means "change what the prog about to be launched will see as the root of the filesystem"12:36
BKajso what's the point of chroot ? if I wanna run 32bit stuff on this 64bit pc?12:37
gioacchinohello!!12:37
xwolf-!quicktime12:37
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:37
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gioacchinoh3sp4wn:  I had reinstall kubuntu and I had resolv all my problem!!! thanks!!!12:38
rjbBKaj: the point is to "hide" the 64bit system from those 32bit apps12:38
rjband make them see only the 32bit environment12:38
BKajyeah ok I understand that but how do I do it then12:39
rjb(shared libs mostly)12:39
rjbi believe that's explained pretty well on the wiki12:39
rjbwiki.kubuntu.org12:39
h3sp4wn!schroot12:39
ubotuI know nothing about schroot12:39
h3sp4wn!dchroot12:39
ubotuI know nothing about dchroot12:39
h3sp4wnubotu doesn't know anything12:40
BKajthe wiki didn't explain it clearly to me12:40
gioacchinoh3sp4wn:  you ignere me ?12:40
rjb!chroot12:40
ubotuI know nothing about chroot12:40
gioacchinoh3sp4wn:  you ignore me ?12:40
rjbdumb bot ;/12:40
h3sp4wn!deboostrap12:40
ubotuI know nothing about deboostrap12:40
h3sp4wn!debootstrap12:40
ubotuI know nothing about debootstrap12:41
BKajnever mind I won't bother with this stuff any more...id it won't run without all this trouble then I don't need it12:41
h3sp4wnKnows even less than he used to12:41
gioacchinorjb: can you ask h3sp4wn if he ignore me ?12:41
rjbBKaj: you probably wanted to install a 32bit system12:41
rjbif what you need are mostly 32bit apps12:41
rjba 32bit OS runs just fine on amd64 cpus12:42
rjbgioacchino: wtf?12:42
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gioacchinowtf ?12:43
gioacchinowath's wtf ?12:43
BKajshoulda installed the 32 bit version of dapper12:43
gioacchinocan you url the list of pacage for kubuntu?12:47
BKajfuck this ...enuff ...too damn much trouble ...ran out of patience , seems aai'm just chasing my tail ...I've got better things to do like bang my against a wall :)12:48
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linuxmonkeyWatch your language12:49
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KinGetanaHi, i was wondering, how can i get the quality information of the music and videos (avis and vob's and such) with dapper? mediainfo was great in windows, but i doubt if it'll work on this system12:50
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coachJanyone play crossfire?12:53
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coachJanyone tell me how to launch the game crossfire12:57
kubkonqueror or firefox??12:57
Kyrallogin to a console and run "crossfire"?12:57
coachJthen what?12:57
coachJtrying12:58
rjbwhat's crossfire?12:58
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coachJgame12:58
kubkonqueror or firefox?? what's your choice?12:58
coachJfirefox12:58
kubok... and why? lol12:59
rjbkub: i'd choose konqueror, but gmail chose firefox for me12:59
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DaSkreechhi nalioth12:59
coachJwhat do I type in terminal12:59
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kubrjb: has konqueror any problem using gmail ?12:59
rjbfor me, two:01:00
rjbno "mail from other address"01:00
coachJkyral--what do i type in terminal01:00
DaSkreechgnomefreak: Whats up?01:00
KyralcoachJ: Oh I dunno, the name of the program01:00
thetaDCC SEND thank-you-all-for-the-tor 0 0 001:00
rjbcalendar doesn't work01:00
naliothDaSkreech: howdy01:00
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coachJdidn't work01:00
KyralcoachJ: then I dunno01:01
gnomefreakdamn01:01
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coachJthks01:01
gnomefreaki tried01:01
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fiyawerxdid anyone else just get  [Error]  Connection to Server irc.freenode.net lost: remote host closed connection.01:01
DaSkreechgnomefreak: Who?01:02
gnomefreaki thought it was #ubuntu-offtopic01:02
gnomefreakDaSkreech: the Dcc exploiter01:02
naliothnixternal: driz winXperts driz fiyawerx YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR CONNECTION PORT TO 8001   this will prevent your ownage from idiots01:02
DaSkreecha haha01:02
fiyawerxnalioth: not sure where to do that?01:03
h3sp4wnfiyawerx: Or change your router firmware away from vxworks01:03
naliothfiyawerx: in your connection settings, you should see a field marked "port number"01:04
fiyawerxunder settings -> config konversation?01:04
kubrjb: try Opera, I think it works fine with gmail and hotmail01:04
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rjbkub: why would i care about hotmail01:05
naliothfiyawerx: i use irssi, but that sounds like the place01:05
gnomefreakdoesnt konversation come default with kubuntu?01:05
rjbkub: i use gmail but gmail chat is sometimes useful, and so is google calendar01:05
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kubrjb: it was only an example, hotmail doesn't work well with firefox...01:05
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h3sp4wngnomefreak: As far as I know it does01:06
gnomefreaki found it01:06
gnomefreaki had pulled it out of menu01:07
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eliehello01:08
fiyawerxso what caused the disconnects before?01:08
gnomefreakfiyawerx: a Dcc exploit01:09
gnomefreak!dcc01:09
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-106801:09
fiyawerxoh it was my router that did it?01:09
fiyawerxwill have to update it when i get home01:09
h3sp4wnfiyawerx: What router are you using ?01:09
gnomefreakfiyawerx: its someone sending something your router cant handle01:09
naliothfiyawerx: your router has faulty firmware01:10
fiyawerxnetgear wgr614 v501:10
gnomefreakfiyawerx: i was gonna check on where to set the settings but the bug that stops me from booting kde is stopping any of the qt apps from running :(01:10
elieany 1 can pm me to help in a black scrreen issue01:10
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fiyawerxgnomefreak: i set it to 800101:10
gnomefreakfiyawerx: you should be fine than01:10
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Jack1hi01:11
fiyawerxok, it's prob. good to update my firmware anyway, i havn't even thought of that01:11
Jack1i want to save preferences in the window of gtkpod, but it appears that the  borders arent resizable so i cant point to the buttons on the downside of the window to save them01:12
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rjbgoodbye & CU01:13
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Jack1and : if i have in my terminal jack@fluffy but want to change the part after the at how could i do that?01:13
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DaSkreechJack1: Change the name of your machine01:13
Jack1DaSkreech but how??01:13
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DaSkreechJack1: ok Just checking to make sure you don't mind doing that :)01:14
DaSkreechIt's in your /etc/hostname file01:14
DaSkreechOr you could echo $PS101:14
Jack1u know what i mean with the window behaviour i described above?01:15
eliehi01:15
Jack1DaSkreech where exactly in /etc is the file?01:15
Jack1hi elie01:16
eliecan u help me with 2 prroblems plz01:16
Jack1DaSkreech found it thyx01:16
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Jack1what u need elie?01:17
eliealways when i play a game and i exit it, and i logoff or switch user or turn off the pc i get a black screen and the sound seem 2 freeze01:17
Jack1does it say something and a genuine linuxgame or what?01:18
Jack1or do u use wine?01:18
eliewolfenstein or ut200401:18
elienop it just give a complete black screen and my screen turrns off01:19
kubhey, my Kubuntu is not visible from my MS Windows Network (XP)... why?01:19
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DaSkreechkub: You have samba installed?01:20
Jack1sry elie hvent got experience with that01:20
kubJack1: sure I have01:20
elieok now the 2nd problem, always when i chek 4 updates it tells me that:W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com dapper Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 18B52FE3521A9C7C Justin Hayes (Automatix Repository Master) <wildtangent@w1ldt4ng3nt.net>01:20
kubJack1: I can see my XP shared folders from Kubuntu01:21
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DaSkreechelie: The black screen is probably a resolution error01:21
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DaSkreechelie: That probably means that you don't have a key for the repos01:22
eliei use a atix800xl pcie01:22
Jack1kub u need to get a kind of driver google for that its a simple thing then u can edit the linux files from windows01:22
DaSkreech!tell kub about samba01:22
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TheHighChildelie: This tells you how to set up the gpg keys in Breezy, probably the same for Dapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19002501:23
kubJack1: the problem's Windows XP doesn't see my Kubuntu in the network01:23
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TheHighChildelie: This is more up-2-date http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19002501:23
imbrandon!tell kub < samba01:23
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ubotuI know nothing about tell kub < samba01:24
Jack1DaSkreech in a program i have strange window behaviour i cannot resize the window that i can reach down and use the save bttons01:24
Jack1buttons01:24
imbrandon!tell kub > samba01:24
Jack1any idea?01:24
kubJack1: from Kubuntu I have no problem... XP shared folders are visible through Samba01:24
Jack1like u can move a window but never get its downside where your save that buttons are..01:24
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Jack1kub i dont know havent used samba yet01:25
DaSkreechJack1: Use alt+Mouse to drag the windows01:25
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DaSkreechkub: I think  you can leave Jack1 alone now :)01:26
Jack1<DaSkreech>thats so cool thank you01:26
imbrandonlol01:26
kubthe point is: how could I share linux directories via Samba? (all options are disabled in the GUI!)01:26
DaSkreechJack1: Yeah I screamed when they added that in Redhat01:26
imbrandon!samba > kub01:26
DaSkreechkub: Where/01:26
imbrandonthere we go01:26
Jack1elie for automatix check the website getautomatix u need to import their keys first01:27
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kubDaSkreech: in "Shared Folders" or something like that...01:27
Toweringhmmm... little stuck here01:27
DaSkreechkub: Under file sharing?01:27
kubDaSkreech: all options disabled01:27
drizI'm Driz01:27
eliewill try it now thnx01:27
kubDaSkreech: yep01:27
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DaSkreechkub: In the bottom right corner there is a button that says administrator mode? Press it and put in your password01:28
Jack1elie its easy just cp and paste in your terminal01:28
kubDaSkreech: Administrator mode doesn't change the situation01:28
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imbrandonkub do you have samba installed ?01:28
sueawtf is grub error 17?01:28
kubimbrandon: yes, in fact I can see my Windows folders and work with them01:29
imbrandonkub that just means smbfs is installed, have you installed SAMBA01:29
driz!questions01:29
ubotuI know nothing about questions01:29
h3sp4wn!cifs01:29
ubotuI know nothing about cifs01:29
imbrandonsuea, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=25564501:30
DaSkreechkub: that means that you have a Samba client That ships by default you don't have a server01:30
sueaty imbrandon01:30
kubimbrandon: oh, I see... I must install SAMBA in my Kubuntu?01:30
DaSkreechsuea: Go to the Grub site I thnk it's on the front page :)01:31
DaSkreechsuea: If not check the FAQ It's definately there01:31
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imbrandonkub, yes to share a drive with windows ( not map a windows drive ) you need samba01:31
TheHighChildI just discovered Google today!!!101:31
DaSkreechYes if you want Windows to see your machine01:31
kubDaSkreech: I understand01:32
imbrandonTheHighChild, good, google is your friend01:32
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DaSkreech:just uses filezilla but then he's not into the convience thing :)01:32
DaSkreechIt works a lot faster :)01:32
Jack1h3sp4wn did u get my situation? while transferring data i get now after login the message (on the old lappie) that my /tmp is full and not writable and so i cannot login...rm -rf of /tmp via commandline didnt work01:32
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kubimbrandon: so, I need SAMBA package... or is it already installed?01:32
TheHighChildimbrandon LOL, I hope you know that was a joke01:32
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imbrandonkub sudo apt-get install samba ( then look on the ubuntuforums.org for tips on configuring it )01:33
DaSkreechTheHighChild: I've heard of sadder thigns happening01:33
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imbrandonTheHighChild, who knows you could have been a sheltered aol user01:33
DaSkreechCan I edit the Entries for KDM?01:33
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h3sp4wnJack1: Try it from recovery mode01:34
kubimbrandon: ok, thanks... I was pretty sure that I have already installed SAMBA with Adept... obviously, I was wrong01:34
TheHighChildDaSkreech: What do you mean entries? It's startup?01:34
Jack1good idea...h3sp4wn are u a developer?01:35
DaSkreechTheHighChild: No the Selections like KDE GNome XGL *cough*01:35
imbrandonDaSkreech, check /usr/share/apps/kdm01:35
h3sp4wnJack1: No01:35
h3sp4wnJack1: Not of kubuntu anyway01:35
TheHighChildDaSkreech: Oh, like the session manager?01:35
DaSkreechyes01:35
imbrandonDaSkreech, locate kdmrc ;)01:36
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Jack1h3sp4wn dont want to be nosy but thx for the advice all the day..btw in case so is interested dapper works fine on the new siemens amilo si 1520 (except translucency)01:36
h3sp4wnJack1: I though it would01:37
elienow when i chek 4 update,it say: Could not download all repository indexes01:38
eliehttp://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)01:38
eliehttp://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)01:38
kubI have installed some applications (games, i.e.) but they are not in the menu... what's the reason for that?01:38
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DaSkreechThey need a .desktop file01:39
TheHighChildkub:  You may need to restart X before they appear in the menu01:39
imbrandonelie, try #automatix01:39
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kubTheHighChild: I have already restarted01:39
Jack1elie are u on dapper?01:39
elieyup01:39
eliex6401:40
Jack1ok elie go there http://www.getautomatix.com/01:40
kubDaSkreech: do you mean a shortcut?01:40
kubDaSkreech: do you mean a shortcut? should I generate this .desktop manually?01:40
Jack1elie add the line the want to the /etc/fstab with kate /etc/fstab01:40
imbrandonjack1 elie please try #automatix01:41
Jack1then paste the line in konsole regarding the gpg keys+01:41
sueaimbrandon: that makes sense. how do i fix it though? i originally deleted a file from kubuntu to give me a textbased login, but when i restarted, linux wasnt working anymore so, as the idiot i am, i went through windows and deleted the linux partitions so i could reinstall kubuntu (not knowing i didn't need to). im currently running the live kubuntu distro off the disc. how do i make it so i can atleast regain access to windows?01:41
TheHighChildJack1: What does her issue with bunzip have to do with her fstab?01:41
Jack1imbrandon i know automatix is not popular here and i actually don have it01:41
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DaSkreechkub: I'm probably not the person to answer that one :)01:41
kubTheHighChild: by the way, restarting is very UGLY... I thought it was not necessary to restart every time you install a program!01:42
kubDaSkreech: ok, thanks anyway01:42
imbrandonkub, restarting X not you computer01:42
h3sp4wnkub: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart would be quicker than a full reboot01:42
TheHighChildkub:  It isn't. If I didn't specify, I;m sorry. I meant restarting your X server. Some menu icons don't appear until you do.01:43
DaSkreechkub: Which games?01:43
kubimbrandon: yes, I know... but I don't like that way either01:43
TheHighChildkub: well, you can always manually add them if you don't want to restart X01:43
imbrandonkub thats a fact of computing sometimes you have to restart an app, if you want to get technical IF it DID create a menu restart kicker01:44
kubh3sp4wn: I press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace with same effect01:44
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imbrandonkub no that ends you session but x is still running ( from KDM session )01:44
DaSkreechkub: There is always Right Click on KMenu -> Menu Editor01:47
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kubDaSkreech: and then I create a shortcut to the binary...01:47
DaSkreechkub: Yup and put some icon that means something to you :)01:48
ryanakcaanybody have a working libGL.so.1.2 than they could send me?01:48
kubDaSkreech: ok... for example, I have installed a 3d Chess game... but I have no idea where is it01:49
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DaSkreechtype which 3dchess01:49
kubDaSkreech: I looked into /usr/bins, but it's not there01:49
h3sp4wn /usr/games probably01:49
DaSkreechYeah01:49
DaSkreechkub: Adept?01:50
kubDaSkreech: right01:50
kubDaSkreech: with Adept... is Synaptic better than Adept?01:50
TheHighChildkub:  Have you tried 'locate <package-name>' That should give you an idea where it may be installed01:50
DaSkreechdepends on if you like it better :) they do the same thing so no01:50
TheHighChildThat's if "which <package-name> doesn't return anything01:51
kubTheHighChild: thanks, I'll try01:51
DaSkreechkub: You haven't run it at all?01:51
kubDaSkreech: the game? no, 'cause I can't find it!01:51
TheHighChildkub: You will need to update your slocate database by doing "sudo updatedb" That will update the "locate" database (slocate.db)01:52
DaSkreechkub: Go to the command line and type 3d and press tab twice01:52
h3sp4wn /usr/games/3Dc01:53
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DaSkreechor 3 and tab twice :)01:53
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kubTheHighChild: then, the steps are: 1) update locate database 2) try to locate the package 3) make a new menu entry for the game01:53
heinrichhi all01:53
heinrichis emacs installed on dupper drake?01:54
DaSkreechI like my way better :)01:54
DaSkreechheinrich: Not by default01:54
kubDaSkreech: is your way the tab thing?01:54
heinrichhow do i install emacs?01:54
kubDaSkreech: I think it's not working01:54
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DaSkreechkub: yes type the first letter or two letters of the package name and press tab twice01:54
heinrichthx daskreech01:55
DaSkreechheinrich: sudo apt-get install emacs01:55
DaSkreechkub: It should give you a list of commands01:55
heinrichi just want to try to programm c++ with emacs01:56
heinrichany other editor recommended?01:56
DaSkreechWhen you see the one you need you can type which <name_of_command> and get the path to it01:56
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DaSkreechWell emacs if you want to use it :)01:56
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TheHighChildkub: First of all, which chess game have you installed? Secondly, did you install it with adept (or an apt-get variant) or did you install from a tarball?01:56
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kubTheHighChild: 3dchess with Adept01:57
heinrichany recommendations?01:57
sueacan anyone tell me how to fix a grub error 17? i have hda3 and hda4 set aside for linux using ext3 format.01:57
spielcan someone please help me with my nvidia driver, it's completely halting my computer on X start01:57
DaSkreechTheHighChild: Yes from adept and it's 3Dchess01:57
kuband some other applications with Add/Remove programs... which are not visibles01:57
DaSkreechheinrich: use Emacs :)01:57
DaSkreechsuea: did you look at the link that was given to you?01:58
ryanakcadoes anybody have a (non-mesa, fglrx...) working /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 that they could send me? I can't seem to get mine to work...01:58
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sueayeah, doesn't tell me HOW to do it though01:58
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suearight now im running the live distro of kubuntu, if that has any bearing on it01:59
heinrichi tried emacs once its hard to learn01:59
kubspeal have you started in safe mode?01:59
DaSkreechheinrich: Ah I thought you said that you wanted to use emacs01:59
TheHighChildkub: type 'gnome-chess' on the command line and press enter02:00
spielis there anyone else who has had problems starting X with the nvidia driver?02:00
heinrichno i do not prefer emacs02:00
heinrichi come from visual studio 702:00
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kubgnome-chess? is the same thing?02:00
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DaSkreechAh Try kdevelop or quanta02:00
heinrichis kdevelop ok?02:01
DaSkreechSure02:01
TheHighChildkub: Sorry man, actually, the application name is '3dc' type '3dc &'02:01
kubok02:02
TheHighChildkub: the d is capitalized, sorry02:02
kubTheHighChild: great!02:02
h3sp4wnkub: Playing chess on freechess.org with eboard is more fun than playing against a computer02:02
DaSkreechCool02:02
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DaSkreechkub: Now try which 3Dc02:02
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kubDaSkreech: now I'm gonna link the binary... right?02:04
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TheHighChildkub: This is a much nicer looking app if you want to checkit out http://glchess.sourceforge.net/02:04
DaSkreechRight02:04
kubDaSkreech: fine02:04
kubthanks a lot, people02:04
h3sp4wnkub: If you want to play chess you may as well play a real person02:05
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kubh3sp4wn: on freechess.org...02:05
Jack1h3sp4wn it didnt work and now??any idea?02:06
h3sp4wnkub: If you install eboard - that is a graphical interface for it02:06
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apokryphosI wish someone would make a reaally cool opengl chess02:06
h3sp4wnapokryphos: Why ?02:06
apokryphoswhere the pieces were real people and the slaughters had good effects 8)02:06
TheHighChildAnyone recall the command to clear their repos? 'apt-cache clear'?02:06
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kubh3sp4wn: ok, it sounds good02:06
apokryphosh3sp4wn: because I'd like it?02:06
Jack1like in the harry potter movie?02:06
DaSkreechTheHighChild: Looks good want to package it for the repos? :-)02:06
apokryphosharry potter? *Shudder*02:07
TheHighChildDaSkreech: I wish I could man. That shiat is way over my head.02:07
h3sp4wnapokryphos: I said that before the second line (otherwise I wouldn't have said it probably)02:07
Jack1IN THE FIRST FILM THERES SUCH A CHESSgame too..but am no fan either sry for caps lock02:07
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DaSkreechTheHighChild: Not nearly as bad as they say :)02:08
h3sp4wnCrafty is the strongest freechess engine02:08
TheHighChildAnyone know what might cause my firefox shortcut (ctrl + k for google search) doesn't work when I am in the addrress bar?02:08
h3sp4wnGNUchess is also pretty strong - Phalanax is more fun to play against (because it plays more interesting moves)02:08
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhas anyone compiled wine lately on dapper?02:10
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OODi just did a minute ago why?02:11
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdim having problems and id like somone to help me out02:12
kubnow... one more question :) there are some links on my desktop, how could I configure a "skeleton desktop" with this files by default?02:13
OODwhat's the problem02:13
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: im havinf error while comipling it , im trying to find my pastebin link02:14
OODis it while compiling, or while configuring?02:15
kubI want that all the new desktops (for new users) have these links by default, is it possible?02:15
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: ok here is the error i get when trying to compile if u can look at it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1660002:17
ryanakcadoes anybody have a (non-mesa, fglrx...) working /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 that they could send me? I can't seem to get mine to work...02:17
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdryanakca: what r u doing?02:17
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kubI want that all desktops have the same icons when they are created, is it possible?02:18
visik7anyone know how to compile restricted modules deb for 2.6.17-2 in edgy ?02:18
ryanakcaget it to work.... no... actually... when I go fglrxinfo, I should get something about ATI & Radeon 9200... however, I get some stuff about mesa... which is not what should, and used to happen before today's upgrade...02:18
ryanakca3d acceleration doesn't work now, which means I can't play bzflag :(02:19
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdryanakca: how did u install the fglrx driver?02:19
kubI want that all desktops have the same icons when they are created, is it possible?02:19
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ryanakcaI had installed it way back with aptitude, and since the upgrade, errors02:19
TheHighChildryanakca: save as http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.202:19
OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you're probably missing a bunch of stuff needed to compile02:19
OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd; do apt-get install build-essential02:20
ryanakcaTheHighChild: ty02:20
OODand you'll also need these other packages to get a fully operational wine compile: http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages02:21
ryanakcaTheHighChild: restart Xorg now to get it to work with the new lib?02:21
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: already got the build essentials , i also did the command to get all the dependencied to compile wine02:21
kubhow could I do that?02:21
TheHighChildryanakca: No idea man. I just googled for what you were asking for. I don't actually know anything about your problem, sorry.02:22
ryanakcalol, kk02:22
OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Check if you have any version of gcc installed02:22
ryanakcaThanks anywais02:22
kubI want that all desktops have the same icons, is it possible? Can a user desktop act as a "template" or something like that?02:22
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: is gcc same thing as the g++ compiler?02:22
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OODno don't think so02:23
OODrun gcc -version02:23
OODor check with your package manager if you have gcc installed02:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: nope , dont have gcc at all , unrecognised command02:23
TheHighChildThis is going to sound very retarded, sorry in advance. Is there a way to make my taskbar-thing collapsible?02:24
OODthen that's what you're missing02:24
imbrandonn0ctuRnaL-fieNd, sudo apt-get build-essential02:24
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kubhow could I make a "template desktop" for all my users?02:24
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdimbrandon: i do have build essentials installed02:24
OODbut somehow you're missing gcc...02:25
imbrandonn0ctuRnaL-fieNd, apparently not if you dont have gcc as thats part of build-essential02:25
TheHighChildkub, 'kdesu konqueror" then go to '/usr/local/autostart' in there you can copy items over from the kmenu into here and they willstart are KDE startup02:25
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdimbrandon: ok , i have it , the command was missing --02:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdimbrandon: version 40302:25
OODyou got the build-essentials package?02:26
imbrandon4.0.3 or 40.3 or 4.03.0 or .......02:26
imbrandonbrb02:26
kubTheHighChild: but when you create a user, there is no icons on his desktop right?02:27
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdimbrandon: gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 , i do have the build essentials , it says latest version when i try to install it02:27
TheHighChildkub: Let me know if you have trouble with that or questions02:27
sir_binaryis there a package to install all codecs....02:27
sir_binaryim using vlc02:27
imbrandonsir_binary, see !restricted02:27
jason32can anyone help me? im trying to install kubuntu to my HDD. i already setup a partition for the swap, but how do i make the root partition? set it as active?02:27
TheHighChildkub: Depends on how you create the user. if you do 'sudo useradd billy' then no. if you add them through the GUI utility then it should have the default set.02:27
crimsun(fwiw, I didn't enable w32loader for vlc)02:27
kubTheHighChild: the point is, i wanna make a "skeleton" or "template" desktop for every user02:27
imbrandon!restricted > sir_binary02:27
OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you should be able to compile now then, gcc breaks cd copy protection so i'd recommend you compile with 3.4 or 3.302:28
kubTheHighChild: I'd like to modify the default set, exactly that02:28
h3sp4wnub: put it in /etc/skel02:28
TheHighChildkub:  Ok, I'll see what I can find, give me a sec02:28
kubh3sp4wn: but desktops are not in /etc/skel02:28
h3sp4wnkub: Add .kde to there02:29
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: i think i know why it doesnt compile , because im using 64bit kubuntu ,  .,.,.,02:29
kubh3sp4wn: desktops are created in a different way02:29
h3sp4wnkub: However you want it setup02:29
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OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: lol that's the reason. here read this (on bottom) http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit02:29
TheHighChildWine on 64 is horrible02:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: thak you , goshh im dumb02:30
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jason32can anyone help me? im trying to install kubuntu to my HDD. i already setup a partition for the swap, but how do i make the root partition? set it as active?02:31
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdi just want to run one little app , thats all02:31
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OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: if you need any more help check out the channel winehq they'll probably be most helpfull :)02:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32: you should  make a partition for boot/root/home/swap02:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32: make the boot partition primary , i think the rest of them can be logical02:33
heinrichbye all02:33
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OODeh 4 partitions o.002:33
jason32n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ok, how? im running the kubuntu installer from the live distro02:33
OODall you need is 202:33
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdha , i have a software raid , i had to make like 9 different partitions , it was fun02:34
jason32and im at the manual partition set up screen02:34
fiyawerxif i want to mount a fat32 partition as rw to everyone, does anyone know the best way? even to make it do so all the time02:35
OODyou need 2 partitions, one as your main one called root (or just /) and one for swap02:35
kubh3sp4wn: sorry, you said it's possible to make a default desktop in /etc/skel...02:35
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h3sp4wnkub: Possible but you would have to investigate how to do it yourself02:36
kubh3sp4wn: ok02:36
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32:i havent used the live cd but i guess the partition setup part is the same02:36
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32: you have to have free space available to create partitions02:37
DaSkreechNight all!!02:37
jason32n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can you join me in #jason32?02:37
kubnight02:37
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32: ill pm u02:38
jason32k02:38
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32:is your nick registerred?02:39
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jason32no02:40
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdjason32: type /msg nickserv register password --for password pick a passwords , then ull be able to pm02:41
nixternal /quote nickserv  <-- this seems to be the new preferred way from conversations due to recent events02:42
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fiyawerxafter that whole recent mess with the compromising or wahtever?02:42
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nixternalexactly02:42
Toweringahhh... i have music02:44
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mwigginsanyone have their sound stop working on amd64?02:45
mwigginseverything is config right (worked just fine yesterday) machine rebooted now i get no output, all programs/drivers/mixers are correct02:45
mwigginsjust no output02:45
mwigginssaw a few references on forum posts with similiar issues02:45
mwigginsbut no resolution02:45
Toweringis there a book out called kubuntu (or ubuntu) for idiots? could use it02:46
Toweringif not, i can hunt for Linux for dummies, i know that one exists02:46
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minyea02:48
minI get this problem02:48
kubTheHighChild, h3sp4wn: thank you very much02:48
kubyou helped me a lot02:48
Toweringneed to find out how to get identd to work too02:48
kubgood night02:48
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TheHighChildkub: take care02:48
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minI get this in my kubuntu02:48
minhttp://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png02:48
kubTheHighChild: I will... :)02:49
imbrandon_Towering: http://www.lulu.com/content/32428502:49
kubsee ya02:49
Toweringthat'll work02:49
minWhen I go on kubuntu http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png I get this02:50
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sir_binaryits trange ...but i cant find  libk3b2-mp3 with adept ....alll unverses r enabled02:51
CheeseBurgerMansir_binary: did you run 'sudo apt-get update'?02:52
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sir_binaryhmm nope02:52
CheeseBurgerManTry it. :)02:52
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Jack1how do i get the firestarte automatically started? mowving it to the autostart folder? OR IS IT unnecessary because its just a graphical thing and theres always a firewall when internet is started?02:53
fiyawerx!apache02:54
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP02:54
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mincan someone help me?02:54
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fiyawerxhey guys whats the shift- copy command to go with shift-insert paste02:55
Kr4t05Does anyone have any clue on how to get an RCA mp3 player to work?02:56
Kr4t05I made the mistake of trying to format it as ext3. -.-02:56
mincan someone help me?02:57
minI get this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png02:57
arcturusmwiggins:  done the 'alsaconf' command?02:57
fiyawerxmin: usually the answer's yes, easier to just ask the question rather than asking if you can ask the question :)02:58
crimsunwe don't ship alsaconf.02:58
mwigginsaplay -l and all the alsa tools say its working fine02:58
minok02:59
crimsunmwiggins: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''02:59
minHere goes02:59
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minI have two monitors. One is attatched to a laptop and an external monitor. The one attatched to the laptop broke (baseball) And that's why I bought a monitor. My monitor is 17 inches 1024x768 but then I get this problem. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png03:01
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minheres my xorg.conf file http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/73406703:01
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minyea thats everything03:02
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minanyone?03:06
CheeseBurgerManIt's still loading for me.03:06
mwigginscrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DktJ6I14.html03:06
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minwhats loading03:06
mwigginspastebin was too slow03:06
minI see03:06
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CheeseBurgerManThe pastebin of your xorg.conf03:06
minhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/73406703:06
minhold on03:06
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minok I put my pastebin in a different site03:08
minhttp://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p33344303:08
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mangz74hi03:08
mangz74i have a question...03:08
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minheres my xorg.conf file http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p33344303:08
minand heres my problem from before03:08
minI have two monitors. One is attatched to a laptop and an external monitor. The one attatched to the laptop broke (baseball) And that's why I bought a monitor. My monitor is 17 inches 1024x768 but then I get this problem. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png03:08
Das|AwayJamesWC, Just ask03:08
crimsunmwiggins: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off && amixer set 'Master' 84%03:09
minthe place where I put my xorg.conf file should come out fast03:09
JamesWCHello!  I have a pretty new computer, with windows xp media center edition.  I would like to try Kubuntu, but I don't know where to start...Can I run both windows xp and kubuntu?  will windows xp have to be removed?03:09
mwigginscrimsun: no effect03:09
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mangz74hi guys...is it possible to change kmenu icon in the panel into just a plain text..don't want a icon...this possible?03:10
mwigginsi've tried frobbing the mixer in all sorts of ways, it does not seem to be a mixing issue03:10
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Das|AwayJamesWC: Download it and go; Yes; no03:10
crimsunmwiggins: amixer output again, please03:10
minanyone?03:10
mwigginsamixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off && amixer set 'Master' 84%03:10
mwigginserp03:11
mwigginsheh03:11
minmy xorg.conf file http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p33344303:12
mangz74?03:12
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mangz74anybody got an idea to help me?03:12
mwigginscrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wM4oxb55.html03:12
JamesWCCan kubuntu be easily removed if I don't like it?03:13
CheeseBurgerManJamesWC: Yeah, just format the kubuntu partition.03:13
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minCheeseBurgerMan: xorg.conf http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p33344303:13
mwigginsnot like its going to help you03:13
mangz74?03:14
crimsunmwiggins: have you toggled the 'External Amplifier' control (i.e., muted it)?03:14
CheeseBurgerManmin: I don't see anything glaringly wrong.03:14
Toweringso, i used Adept Manager to install wine, but now i don't see it the start menue.. did i miss something?03:14
mwigginsyes03:14
crimsunmwiggins: "not like its going to help you"  <-- what is that in reference to?03:15
mwigginsive frobbed everything possible on the ixer03:15
CheeseBurgerManmin: But I'm not exactly sure if I would see anything wrong with it.03:15
mwigginsim just saying its not a mixering issue03:15
crimsunmwiggins: are you /positive/?03:15
crimsunmwiggins: because as the sound person for Ubuntu, I'm not.03:15
JamesWCok I have a AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+....Do I download 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD?03:15
minSo theres nothing wrong with it?03:15
minthen why is my thing so big?03:15
mwigginsko, well yes03:16
mwigginsi have tried turning on every switch on the mixer03:16
mwigginstoggling everything, maxing everything, capturing every input03:16
crimsunmwiggins: nope, randomly toggling stuff isn't the way to go about it.03:16
mwigginsthats what leads me to believe its not a mixing issue03:16
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mwigginsit wasnt random, was trying all possibilities03:16
crimsunmwiggins: that's random for our purposes03:16
CheeseBurgerManmin: More like I don't know if something's wrong with it. You can try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure it. SInce you've apparently edited it you might want to back up your current one.03:16
crimsunmwiggins: what I need is the contents of the ac97 reg file from a known-working boot03:17
JamesWCok I have a AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+....Do I download 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD?03:17
crimsunmwiggins: whether this means booting from the live cd and getting sound, it doesn't matter.03:17
minCheeseBurgerMan: Thats not my monitor settings. Someone gave it to me. Im on two monitors and I need to dual them and this one worked almost well. and o the reconfigure thing doesnt work on dual monitors it only registers one.03:17
crimsunmwiggins: normally it's the /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs file.03:18
TheHighChildJamesWC: If you want to run in 64 bit. Otherwise you can download the 386 version to run in 32 bit03:18
JamesWCWhats the better option Child?03:18
OODJamesWC no i'd recommend you run the 32-bit03:18
OODless problems in getting things to run03:18
JamesWCSo I download the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD?03:18
CheeseBurgerManBah, go 64 bit.03:18
minCheeseBurgerMan: Thats not my monitor settings. Someone gave it to me. Im on two monitors and I need to dual them and this one worked almost well. and o the reconfigure thing doesnt work on dual monitors it only registers one.03:18
TheHighChildJamesWC: I have an AMD64 chip and ran 64 bit but, I personally feel that 64 bit desktop applications are seriously lacking. I reinstalled with 32 because things are a lot easier to setup and it seems faster to me03:19
mwigginscrimsun: i have an ac97 on an nforce board at home03:19
OODant there are less problems03:19
mwigginsthis one is on VIA03:19
mwigginswill that matter?03:19
CheeseBurgerManI like my 64 bit, but suit yourself. :)03:19
TheHighChildJamesWC: That isn't a global thing though. 64 bit server installations are great. We have a few Sun servers running dapper terifically. i just feel the Desktop side of things is way behind03:19
CheeseBurgerManmin: To be honest, I'm not really sure what's wrong.03:19
crimsunmwiggins: ac97 is a specification not a title of a sound device.03:19
minCheeseBurgerMan:what does this mean03:20
minOption"MergedFB""true"03:20
minOption"CRT2Position""RightOf"03:20
min?03:20
CheeseBurgerManI don't know that either. :(03:20
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minsigh03:20
minI got it!03:21
minI know what the problem is03:21
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minmin@ubuntu:~$ sudo xrandr03:21
OODmwiggins: you trying to get surround sound working ?03:21
minPassword:03:21
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mwigginsno trying to fix my audio it stopped working03:22
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crimsunmwiggins: anytime you have /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs from a boot with working sound, please pastebin it and tell me the url03:22
apokryphosmin: don't paste in here, please use a pastebin service (check the topic)03:23
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minsorry03:23
minthe pastebin doesnt really work03:23
apokryphosit works fine03:23
mwigginscrimsun: this is from my nforce machine at home:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/hp549Y44.html03:24
mwigginsdiffers from this one03:24
crimsunmwiggins: I'm only interested in the via.03:24
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apokryphosoh, the pastebin.com is playing up lately though, yeah03:24
robotgeekrafb.net/paste03:24
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mwigginsthe livecd has audio drivers and a sample file?03:25
crimsunmwiggins: yes.03:25
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crimsunhence why they call it a 'live cd' :)03:25
mwigginswheres the sample file at on the filesystem03:25
crimsuntake your pick. /usr/share/sounds/03:26
mwigginsko will try03:26
robotgeekthere should be samples in the example directory on the desktop03:26
crimsunyes, there are those, too03:27
crimsuneven a video iirc03:27
minok here is my new pastebin ;] 03:27
minhttp://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post77059503:27
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minhow do I pick choice number 3 from http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595?03:27
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minanyone?03:28
eliesup guys03:29
elieoi03:29
minhey03:29
minhttp://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post77059503:29
eliei have a prroblem03:29
elieE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:29
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minanyone?03:30
mincan someoine help me?03:30
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mwigginsfeh i dont have a livecd, just an install CD03:31
elieany1?03:32
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elieE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:32
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crimsunmwiggins: on the normal install, which kernel are you using?03:32
mwiggins2.6.15-25-amd64-generic03:33
mwigginsi tried the older ones i had still installed too with no avail03:33
minhow do I pick choice 3?03:34
minhttp://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post77059503:34
crimsunmwiggins: and sound /was/ working a couple days ago?03:34
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mwigginssound was working just fine yesterday, i accidentally ran "sudo halt" from a ssh session this morning (this is the work box thats affliced), and when i booted up this morning its been behaving like this since03:35
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sir_binaryumm amp is on ....player is play ....mute is off yet i cant hear anything03:35
mwigginstried diff kernels, not sure what packages were updated since last reboot, its been on for a week or two, and i regularly update with adept03:35
mwigginssame here sir_binary03:36
crimsunmwiggins: ok, do this.03:36
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crimsunmwiggins: replace your existing /etc/init.d/alsa-utils with the version at http://sh.nu/~crimsun/alsa-utils03:37
crimsunmwiggins: then, sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state03:37
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Frederickfolks anyone here using nicotine?03:37
minhow do I install firefox in kubunut?03:37
Frederickmin: sudo apt-get install firefox03:37
crimsunmwiggins: then, shutdown the computer, wait two minutes, and boot back into KDE03:37
minthanks03:39
dracflamloc_how can i resize a ext3 partition03:39
minnow how do u uninstall konqueror?03:39
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dracflamloc_erm, anyone?03:40
CheeseBurgerManmin: I dunno if i'd uninstall konqueror, it's also your file manager.03:40
minI see03:40
minso I should just leave it03:40
CheeseBurgerManyeah03:40
Frederickmin: leave it03:40
mink03:40
crimsunwell, you /can/ uninstall it if you wish.03:40
Frederickyou can use other file managers03:41
crimsunwe give you rope; you can choose to hang yourself.03:41
untwistedHi all, I've recently had my laptop repaired -- it got a new motherboard.  Now my Dapper install doesn't recognize the wired ethernet port (it sees the wireless one).  Will I have to reinstall or is there a way to get it to detect it?03:41
minnow that the thing is finished03:42
minwhere is my firefox?03:42
sir_binaryrun command03:42
CheeseBurgerManmin: Alt+F2 > Firefox or it would be in K Menu > internet > firefox03:42
mindo I have to do that everytime I wanna run firefox?03:43
mwigginscrimsun: no effect03:43
crimsununtwisted: you shouldn't have to reinstall ever for hardware detection.03:43
crimsunmwiggins: well, by default you /shouldn't/ be able to hear anything after booting.03:43
crimsunwe're not even halfway finished03:43
CheeseBurgerManmin: Um, it's no worse than konqueror.03:43
minthen how can I run it without doing the run thing all the time?03:44
untwistedcrimsun: any idea how to get it to detect and whatnot then?03:44
mwigginswell what next then03:44
crimsunmwiggins: I need to see amixer output on a fresh boot.03:44
mwigginscrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wWYBJ53.html03:44
crimsununtwisted: depends on the newer/older hardware. There may be some output in ``dmesg'' related to the different network hardware.03:44
untwistedI'll try it and let you know what it says03:45
TheHighChildmin: K menu > Internet > Firefox web browser  Put your mouse of the item, right click, add item to main panel03:45
minalright03:45
minthank you everyone03:45
crimsunmwiggins: that's from a fresh boot without you having touched any mixer elements?03:45
minyet I still have one unsolved problem03:46
mwigginsyes03:46
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mwigginsi removed asound.state, halted off for coulpe minutes, startkde then amixer > paste03:46
TheHighChildmin if firefox is not under 'K menu > Internet > Firefox web browser' then you can right click anywhere in the Kmenu and go to 'edit menu' here you can manually enter in the item and for the command use 'firefox' or type 'which firefox' on the command line and enter the output into the edit menu dialog03:47
crimsunmwiggins: ok, that doesn't guarantee kmix doesn't do something, but I'll attempt to work around that.03:47
untwistedcrimsun: I don't see anything in dmesg about it.  lspci shows it just fine03:47
Tonglebeaki installed kubuntu on my family's old p3 550mhz box. anyways the ethernet connection to the router isn't working. everything looks fine in the network config, i've tried both dhcp and static ip. looks like it has the right dns servers (probably pulled from when the livecd was in use), but on the actual install i just can't get out to anywhere. pinging even the router fails. what can i do here?03:47
mwigginsyeah im running kmix03:47
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crimsununtwisted: and what does it show for the [new/old]  nic?03:47
TheHighChildmin What other problem are you having?03:47
crimsunmwiggins: ok, we'll mute the basics. First, amixer set 'Capture' off03:47
minhttp://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595 this is my pastebin03:47
minhow owuld I pick choice 3 from here?03:48
crimsunmwiggins: next, amixer set '3D Control - Switch' off03:48
TheHighChildmin use the arrow keys and press tab or enter03:48
crimsunmwiggins: next, amixer set 'Surround' on03:48
untwistedcrimsun: what do you mean?  The entire motherboard was replaced and since its a laptop everything is onboard.  The wireless works with no further setup (works just like before I sent it for repair) however ifconfig eth1 doesn't work at all03:49
mwigginsk03:49
TheHighChildmin nvm, I misread that.03:49
crimsunmwiggins: then, amixer set 'Center' on03:49
crimsunmwiggins: then, amixer set 'LFE' 80% on03:49
minTheHighChild: So then What should I do?03:49
RawSewagehow do you use KDE program HELP03:49
RawSewageits confusing03:49
elieE: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:50
RawSewagewhen I do a search, it doesnt search that program's HELP03:50
mwigginsk03:50
TheHighChildmin That isn't a selection dialog, it's only posting information about your setup.03:50
crimsunmwiggins: then try ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav'' . It /should/ be inaudible still.03:50
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eliewhn i do a update i get this: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.03:50
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minTheHighChild: Then how should I set it up?03:50
mwigginssure is03:50
crimsununtwisted: no, I want the lspci -v info for the onboard nic03:51
minhere is my xorg.conf file03:51
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elieany1?03:51
TheHighChildmin If you want to change your resolution or refresh, you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or go to 'Kmenu > System Settings > Hardware . Display.03:51
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minuh03:51
minthe system settings dont really work03:51
minand I have no clue what to put on my xorg.conf file03:51
TheHighChildmin Have you selected "Administrator mode" before making changes?03:51
minyea03:52
minwait03:52
mwigginscrimsun: wow you were right, its still inaudible!03:52
elieany1 can help me plz?03:52
crimsunmwiggins: now comes the tricky part. try, amixer set 'External Amplifier' off03:52
crimsunmwiggins: then try aplay again.03:52
minheres what happens03:52
robotgeekelie: there should be IGN: somewhere03:52
mwigginsNo effect03:52
minTheHighChild: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png03:53
TheHighChildelie: I am not sure but I think one of your entries in the /etc/apt/sources.list is malformated03:53
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elieok wait i will open it03:53
crimsunmwiggins: ok, good. Now, amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 003:53
TheHighChildmin can you get me a copy of your xorg.conf?03:54
mink03:54
TheHighChildmin Also, have you tried to restart your x session lately?03:54
eliek,how do i know if its is malformed03:54
eliecan i post it here?03:54
mwigginscrimsun: okay03:55
minyea03:55
crimsunmwiggins: try the aplay command. If it's inaudible still, use: amixer set 'External Amplifier' on    then try aplay again03:55
mwigginsBoth do not work03:55
untwistedcrimsun: I messaged you the info from dmesg -v so that I wouldn't flood the channel03:55
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TheHighChildelie: don't post it here, you can use pastebin03:56
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TheHighChild!pastebin03:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:56
crimsunmwiggins: ok, now try, amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 103:56
minTheHighChild: heres my pastebin http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770691#post77069103:56
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minits the second one03:56
mwigginscrimsun: No effect03:56
minkubuntu pastebin is kinda down03:56
crimsunmwiggins: ok, I need ``dmesg''03:56
minTheHighChild: heres my pastebin http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770691#post77069103:56
eliehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666703:57
RawSewageDoes ANYONE ... Anyone at all... know how to search app manuals with Help???03:57
mwigginscrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wV2LdL99.html03:57
apokryphosmin: you can use the pastebin in /topic03:57
crimsununtwisted: anything in dmesg related to tg3.c ?03:57
RawSewageI asked in #KDE and they were all clueless03:57
mino03:57
RawSewage"huh? what?  you want to search a manual?  what for? huh???"03:57
robotgeekRawSewage: what do you mean?03:57
TheHighChildmin I'm not super 1337 but something tells me that having 4 monitors configured in there is going to cause you problems03:58
eliehers my sorrce list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666703:58
RawSewagerobotgeek,   Ok, most programs have user manuals, right03:58
mino oops03:58
minthen what should I do?03:58
untwistedcrimsun: no sir03:58
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mincan u take out the monitors for me and pastebin it?03:58
robotgeekRawSewage: man pages or gui apps help mauals?03:58
untwistedcrimsun: or ma'am ;)03:58
jason32can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs file system?03:58
RawSewagerobotgeek, for example, in Konversation, click Help, and theres the Konversation Handbook03:58
robotgeekRawSewage: okay, lemme look now03:58
RawSewagerobotgeek, I want to be able to search in the handbook03:59
crimsunmwiggins: and ``cat /proc/interrupts''03:59
elieany1?03:59
mwigginscrimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/42t3WN43.html03:59
driz!vim03:59
TheHighChildmin I wouldn't suggest doing that as i don't know which are which and I don't know your system. What I would do is backup your xorg.conf with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-6-27-06'03:59
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code03:59
driz!html03:59
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com03:59
untwistedcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666804:00
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Toweringsomething i've noticed... you can take a DVD9 to DVD5, but can linux burn DVD9? haven't seen programs like that yet or i'm not looking hard enough04:00
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crimsunmwiggins: do you have a bios 'reset defaults' or whatnot?04:00
TheHighChildMin I would then reconfigure my Xserver with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" If that fails miserbaly, you can restore your current with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-6-27-06 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'04:00
arcturusjason32: you'll find answer here: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#fish04:00
jason32can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs file system?04:00
mwigginsi'm sure04:01
eliehttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.04:01
jason32ok, thank you04:01
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mwigginsbut im out of time for you to keep randomly trying things i've already done04:01
mwigginsleaving work04:01
mwigginsthanks for the help anyway04:01
crimsunheh, ok.04:01
Kr4t05How do I change the Kmenu icon?04:01
elieamy1 can help plz04:01
sir_binaryhey pick up were u left off04:01
robotgeekRawSewage: http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/KDEdoc/khelpcenter/interface-basics.html look at second section04:01
crimsunget me the reg dump, and I'll look at it.04:01
crimsun^ mwiggins04:02
RawSewagerobotgeek, I will look.  ty04:02
crimsunmwiggins: otherwise we're both just shooting in the dark.04:02
TheHighChildelie: I am no expert but it may be because you have 3 of the same repos listed. You have 3 of the same automatix repos. That MAY be the trouble. I am not a professional and I cannot say for sure that is the problem04:02
RawSewageSearching requires you have the ht://Dig application installed.04:02
RawSewageok04:02
eliethnx guyz04:05
TheHighChildgeez, I wish people would tell me when things worked so I could stash it into my future-help.db04:06
TheHighChildor whether they don't04:06
RawSewagedont you love a mystery04:06
TheHighChildlol04:06
robotgeekRawSewage: sudo apt-get install htdig04:06
RawSewagerobotgeek, ok thx04:07
RawSewageI guess I'll do that04:07
TheHighChildWhat really gets me is when I try and help someone in private for an entire shift, only to have them PM me the next day saying they had to reformat04:07
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RawSewagemustve been a Windows user04:08
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RawSewagethey give up easily04:08
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sir_binarythere was no high child to show them the way04:08
elieihave 2 problems now as i resloved the other104:08
TheHighChildYeah, it irks me but I did a good 6 months of that myself at some point, granted, i never knew about IRC back then and couldn't get help to save my life but I know the feeling.04:08
untwistedcrimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16668  is my paste bin.  I'll brb I need to restart X real quick.04:09
eXCeSS_anyone have any ssh tutorials04:09
TheHighChildsir_binary: I try and help with the little, more common problems so newbies don't burn out the more 1337 crew, who help me ;)04:09
eXCeSS_im looking to use it to transfter files04:09
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RawSewageOk, htdig installed04:09
TheHighChildeXCeSS hit me up in private, i can go over basic scp with you04:09
CheeseBurgerManeXCeSS: It's pretty easy if you install putty, but you can look at http://www.suso.org/linux/tutorials/ssh.phtml04:10
CheeseBurgerManOr just talk to TheHighChild. ;)04:10
eliei am getting that error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666904:10
RawSewageugh04:11
RawSewageI give up04:11
elieany 1 can help plz04:11
BoSJoHi all. Just installed Kubuntu....well actually it's my first Linux install (well tried Suse 10.1 yesterday), but everything works really nice :-) , it's here to stay. Just wondering! Is there a pdf reader that supports form fields?04:11
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CheeseBurgerMankpdf?04:11
untwistedcrimsun: back04:11
BoSJokpdf dossent support it04:12
RawSewageI cant believe searching a program manual is so hard04:12
eliegot 2 add/remove program and chek 4 kpdf04:12
RawSewageand not even built in04:12
robotgeekRawSewage: in khelp center, there is a build index, i cant figure out where to search04:12
elieany1 can help plz i am getting that error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666904:12
CheeseBurgerManBoSJo: Did you look at gpdf & xpdf?04:12
arcturusKr4: kmenu.png. You could do a locate on it and substitute the one you want by renaming or whatever04:12
TheHighChildscp <filename> <user@destinationIP:/locationyouwanttosave> OR scp <user@destinationIP:/fileyouwanttosave> <destination>04:13
elieany1 can help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1666904:13
BoSJoCheeseBurgerMan: no just open a pdf via Konkuer04:13
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CheeseBurgerManBoSJo: run 'sudo apt-get install gpdf xpdf' to install them.04:14
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BoSJoCheeseBurgerMan: Thanks, will try that04:15
RawSewagerobotgeek, I thnk I'll give up.  I try building an index for apps, and get error messages04:15
CheeseBurgerManBoSJo: If not, you can try downloading Acrobat reader.04:15
TheHighChildelie have you unzipped the file?04:15
RawSewagerobotgeek, thx for helping though04:16
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BoSJoCheeseBurgerMan: ha ha ha, diden't even think off doing that *lol* will try the other first04:16
elieyup,it was inside a .zip04:16
RawSewagemaybe one day , the elites at KDE will realize people need to search program manuals04:16
TheHighChildtry 'gunzip filename'04:16
TheHighChildelie: try 'gunzip filename'04:17
RawSewageI asked in KDE, and they all acted shocked.  "You want to search a program manual??? I know where to look when I look in a manual blah blah"04:17
CheeseBurgerManRawSewage: man <program> | grep <term> ;)04:17
robotgeekRawSewage: i know that kbeagle works nicely for this04:17
elieTheHighChild:it say: gunzip: /home/elie/Desktop/linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: unknown suffix -- ignored04:17
RawSewageok thx04:17
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robotgeekRawSewage: index /usr/share/doc, and you should be good to go04:18
TheHighChildelie: ok, sorry. I thought it might work04:18
eliethnx anyway04:18
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RawSewagerobotgeek, I think thats working04:19
RawSewageI think it's building04:19
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RawSewageor its stuck at 0%04:20
jason32ok, can someone tell me how to mount an ntfs filesystem WITH read-write capabilities?04:20
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robotgeekRawSewage: takes time04:20
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhy does adept only see dummy wine packages ?04:22
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jason32ok, can someone tell me how to mount an ntfs filesystem WITH read-write capabilities?04:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd!mount04:25
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks04:25
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eXCeSS_!ssh04:26
ubotussh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/04:26
johnflux_Microsoft says, "Where do you want to go today?" Apple says, "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FOSS says, "Are you coming, or what?"04:27
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arcturusjason32:  read/write means umask=00004:28
arcturusread only ... umask=022204:28
arcturus!windows04:28
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:28
arcturuslol04:28
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eliek i have another problem04:31
elieany1 can help plz04:31
Hawkwindelie: Just ask your question04:31
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdanyone got the wine installed with apt-get?04:31
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elieaftere playing a games and exit it,and logoff or switch user i get a black screen and my monitor turrns of and the sound freeze like ttttt04:32
RawSewageit was stuck at 0%04:33
RawSewageI just stopped it04:33
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elieaftere playing a games and exit it,and logoff or switch user i get a black screen and my monitor turrns of and the sound freeze like ttttt04:33
elieand some times it do the same thing when i try to star a 3d game likw wolfenstein04:34
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johnflux_elie: sometimes I stare into space and not think of anything04:38
chessanybody have a howto link for installing nvidia drivers for kubuntu 6.0604:39
eXCeSS_!nvidia04:39
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:39
chessty04:39
eXCeSS_np04:39
elie!ati04:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto04:40
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eliesome1 told me it was a rresolution fault but how do i reslove that?04:40
kkathmanHey apokryphos :)04:42
apokryphoshi there04:42
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chessdoes kubuntu use synaptic manager?04:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdadept04:45
kkathmanchess:  if you want to :)04:45
arcturusyes, synaptic, apt, and adept04:45
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdi think its same thing04:45
OODit can, but it comes with adept by default04:45
kkathmanbut the standard is Adept04:45
OODdamm got beaten to it :D04:45
arcturus!adept04:46
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto04:46
arcturus!synaptic04:46
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto04:46
arcturus!apt04:46
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)04:46
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdanyone got the wine installed with apt-get?04:46
OODwhoah that's a cool bot :P04:46
chessty04:46
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arcturusnoc: automatix supports wine04:46
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arcturuserr wine installs04:47
OODget wine from the wine repository instead, much more up to date: http://www.winehq.org/site/download04:47
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arcturus00D: is it a deb package?04:48
_modemhi there. i have a problem with grub. its like my stage1 file is corrupted04:48
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdOOD: i tried , i cant install or compile it , i dont know wth is wrong with it ,04:48
_modemso, i boot with a live cd (my partitions are ok) and i tried to re install grub, but i have this error:04:48
_modemThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.04:49
_modemany ideas?04:49
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KayRPee1JRE and KDE-->Gnome questions04:51
KayRPee1I currently have Kubuntu...How can I change to Gnome?04:52
_modemits easy04:52
CheeseBurgerManKayRPee1: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'04:52
_modemgo to adept04:52
OODn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I don't know, sorry04:52
OODno, do sudo aptitude04:52
OODotherwise it'll be impossible to uninstall04:53
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_modemand install ubuntu-desktop04:53
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OODsudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop04:53
minsigh04:53
mincan someone help me?04:53
robotgeekor you can "sudo apt-get remove libgtk-2.0-bin" to get rid of all gnome :)04:53
OODlol04:53
minactually fuck it04:54
OODmin what's up?04:54
minWhats kubuntu good for anyways04:54
minyea04:54
villmowkde :)04:54
OODa lot, it's my main OS now ;)04:54
minargh04:54
minI quit windows and I went to kubuntu04:54
kkathmanhey robotgeek :)04:54
minbut so many damn bugs04:54
robotgeekhey kkathman , long time04:54
mink04:55
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KayRPee1I prefer ubuntu with gnome04:55
minOOD04:55
kkathmanrobotgeek:  been busy and my son was married this past weekend04:55
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_modemmmm, any ideas about the stage1 file_04:55
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robotgeekkkathman: great. congrats!04:55
kkathmanKayRPee1:  if you prefer ubuntu w/gnome, why are you in kubuntu ?? :)04:56
minI dotn feel like typing all that again so04:56
kkathmanrobotgeek:  thanks :)04:56
minIll use pics to explain04:56
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minheres my desktop right now http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png04:57
minyea04:57
minheres my xorg.conf file04:57
_modemits a wide screen?04:57
jane_Hi all, I got a New printer,  HP 3915,  Is it necessary to compile a driver?04:57
KayRPee1I am searching desperately for some help04:57
minuh04:57
minno04:57
minits 1024x72804:57
min_modem: and its freaking huge. I have to scroll04:58
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KayRPee1I actuallly have both, but I tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to upgrade my ubuntu w/ gnome from hoary to breezy04:59
minheres my desktop right now http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png04:59
minheres my xorg.conf file04:59
OODdid you try going to system settings->display->Hardware->Configure and selecting your monitor model?04:59
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untwistedHi all, I'm having some ATI driver problems.  The old drivers (8.25.18) worked just fine, but when I install the new ones I get errors in dmesg.  Heres my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1667205:00
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minmy monitor model isnt there05:00
minIm on two monitors05:00
minone is busted05:00
minand the other is working05:00
minWhen I change resolution it goes to the busted one05:00
robotgeekwhy dont you disconnect it then?05:01
OODmultimonitor support in linux isn't good05:01
minI cant05:01
minits laptop05:01
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robotgeekmin: oh okay05:01
minexactly05:01
minrobotgeek: ? You solved something?05:02
OODi forget the program name for multimonitor support, it was something starting with X05:02
minxorg?05:02
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OODXa or something05:02
minxrandr?05:02
OODno05:02
robotgeekmin: no, i havent solved anything05:02
mindamit05:02
minrobotgeek: What was with that oh ok thing?05:02
robotgeekyou said that it was laptop screen05:03
minyea05:03
minits busted05:03
minso I got a new monitor05:03
minwhich is external05:03
minIt worked with windows05:03
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minit doesnt in linux05:03
OODdamm i can't remember the name of that program05:04
minionno maybe God's tellibg me linux isnt for me05:04
Healotno then... min05:04
mintheres a program05:04
minxa05:04
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minlet me google it05:04
OODi think that it was xa...something i can't remember05:04
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eliei again05:05
minXinerama?05:05
eliehow 2 set my user let say elie to a root so i can have root permission?05:05
OODyea thats it05:06
HealotXinerama. I gave you the Xinerama example yesterday, iirc05:06
minits Xinerama?05:06
minhealot u talking to me?05:06
Healotno, I was referring to Mr. William05:07
minso if I just get that then Im good to go?05:07
james_xxxmin: i have a laptop i am using the same way lol05:07
OODdon't know, i haven't tried it myself05:07
james_xxxit's a medion, but i am not having any problems with it05:08
robotgeekmin: never used xinerama, try looking in the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community05:08
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhat do i add to rmdir to delete everything withing the folder?05:08
robotgeekn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: rm -rf foo/05:08
OODrmdir -rf05:08
minyea one step ahead of u05:08
dr_williscuuse rm -rf05:08
OODhehe05:08
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdty05:08
_modemi have a problem with grub. its like my stage1 file is corrupted05:08
_modemso, i boot with a live cd (my partitions are ok) and i tried to re install grub, but i have this error:05:08
_modemThe file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.05:08
_modemany idea_05:09
_modem?05:09
james_xxxmin:  before you give up on linux, try another distribution if you just can't get kubuntu to work. kanotix would be a good one to try05:09
Healot_modem, reinstall the kernel package or maybe the grub package...05:09
minthank you05:09
minfinnaly some progress05:09
_modemyes, i did that (reinstall grub package)05:10
Healotpurge the package first05:10
Healotthen reinstall05:10
_modemnop . that didn't work05:11
_modemeven if i copy the stage1 from /lib/grub....05:11
minjust asking05:11
minwhat are the benifits of having linux?05:12
minwhy is it better than windows mac etc?05:12
Mongeyits free05:12
arcturusfor some windows is better05:13
_modemi never used a mac. it looks nice. its like a unix isn't it?05:13
_modemwindows is better for games :)05:13
dr_willisits a tool.. some jobs are easier to do with specific tools.. thats how life is.05:13
dr_willis:)05:13
_modemno way to compare nedd 4 speed to tuxkart :)05:13
_modem*need05:13
dr_willisgames are for the weak.05:13
dr_willis:P05:14
_modemjaja05:14
sir_binarywhich one of u masterminds has great understanding of the linux sound system05:14
minlol05:14
minIll brb05:14
dr_willisThe whole PC gaming scene is really starting to tick me off.05:14
minneed to restart x05:14
sir_binarydr_willis:sugar is for the weak05:14
dr_willisSugar is part of this Complete Breakfast!05:14
dr_willis:P05:14
dr_willisSugar Frosted Sugar Cubes!~05:15
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sir_binaryi stand corrected ...be that as it is ....is it aslo not a "meal" on its own05:15
_modemhaha05:15
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dr_willisIt is to my wife. :P05:16
dr_willisPepsi + candy bar, or Donuts = her idea of a breakfast.05:16
dr_willis:P05:16
dr_willisshes about as hyper as a humming bird on cocaine.05:16
sir_binaryi see u and i both have different understandings of the word"sugar"05:17
sir_binaryas in candy make u dandy05:17
sir_binarywho can make the sun shine?05:17
dr_willisas in 'come over here and give ya sugar daddy some suger!'05:17
dr_willis:P05:17
sir_binarythe candy man can05:17
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SeanTaterwhere might I find some fonts for kde?05:17
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Healot tonight love infects worldwide...05:18
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sir_binaryhave some sugar driz05:18
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minwhat was the thing called?05:19
minxsomething?05:19
minit didnt work05:19
minxilaris?05:19
minwhat was it?05:19
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwhat app can i use to capture images from my webcam ?05:20
arcturussir_binary:  good link for sound - http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Basic_sound_card_hardware_debuging05:20
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sir_binarynot mine driz ....urs ...in the kitchen ...top shelf05:20
mincan someone scroll up and tell me the program that allows u to do dual monitor?05:20
dr_willisXcineriam or twinview05:21
Hawkwindmin: Xinerama ?05:21
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dr_willisIc an never spellit right.05:21
mink ty05:21
Hawkwindmin: TwinView is if you have an Nvidia card05:21
dr_willistwinview is nvidias 'take' on xinerama05:21
Healothum the answers all along05:21
Hawkwinddr_willis: Stop repeating me please :P05:21
minI have ati05:21
Hawkwindmin: Then you have to do Xinerama05:21
Healotmin: dual monitor means you need both monitor working :)05:21
HawkwindLOL Healot05:21
minhm05:22
Healotsince yours in poofed, we can help up to this part05:22
minyea05:22
Healotis*05:22
minones cracked(baseball)05:22
minand theres no way turn it off05:22
minso might as well dual05:22
Healotmin: repair it maybe?05:22
minnah05:23
Healotyeah it costs you something... but worth the pain05:23
minnot paying another 1000 just for linux05:23
dr_willis0_o05:24
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RandomDude15http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102176 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829117108 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102002 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829111001? which one of these 4 soundcards should I get if I want to dual boot XP and Kubuntu?05:26
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dr_willisi reccomend creative cards.05:27
dr_willisthey got them for all budgets. :P05:28
OODdon't get an X-FI though, won't work in linux05:28
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RandomDude15I know that.05:29
minis Xinerama something u install or do u just have to state it in the xorg.conf file05:29
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RandomDude15 Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail  - hows that?05:29
mindo u have to install it first?05:29
minis ti like a program?05:29
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dr_willisI ve used the Audigy and Audigy 2 cards with no problems05:31
dr_willisgot an Audigy2zs right now05:31
unix_infideldr_willis: for the laptop?05:32
unix_infidelhas anyone here gotten ati working with kubuntu?05:32
unix_infidel!ati05:32
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto05:32
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dr_willis*#&# laptops :P05:32
dr_willisactually my laptops sound cards have always worked fine.05:32
unix_infideldr_willis: ?05:32
biffherounix_infidel: I am in the same boat, T41p05:33
unix_infideldr_willis: the audigy is for the desktop?05:33
unix_infidelbiffhero: it works no the t41p?05:33
unix_infideli've got a t42 here05:33
RandomDude15dr_willis: sound blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 good for linux?05:33
dr_willisunix_infidel,  yes. he just posted a pci card as his 'hows that'05:33
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dr_willisRandomDude15,  no clue on that specific card. if  its using the audigy chipset it should work fine05:33
dr_willisproberly overkill :P05:34
unix_infideldr_willis: heh, yea, i need a pcmcia audio card for my laptop because i do audio production on it.05:34
RandomDude15well i think ill try it and if i dont like ill return it05:34
unix_infidelbiffhero: ?05:34
dr_willisunix_infidel,  no clue there. :P05:34
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dr_willissoud for me is just to hear my mp3's and  games. :P05:34
OODhttp://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix05:35
OODit works fine, but the input isn't working05:35
crimsunRandomDude15: don't get it.05:35
RandomDude15which would you recommend for linux? 5.1 or 7.1?05:35
crimsunRandomDude15: it's an utter waste of money.05:35
crimsunca0106/ca0106_main.c:193:   .name   = "Audigy SE [SB0570] ",05:36
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minyea05:36
crimsun^^ signifies that it's a completely crippled card05:36
minthe x thing isnt really working for me05:36
crimsunRandomDude15: what are your use cases?05:36
mindo u have to install the x thing first before u state it in ur xorg.conf file?05:36
RandomDude15I have a speaker05:37
RandomDude15with a subwoofer05:37
unix_infidelbiffhero: after installing the ati radeon drivers was standby mode not working or was it still functional?05:37
RandomDude15*2 speakers05:37
RandomDude15and currently using onboard motherboard05:37
crimsunRandomDude15: no, meaning what will you use it for?05:37
dr_willisi doubt if it will matter05:37
dr_willisyou proberly aint going to be doing anything thta uses 5.1 or 7.105:38
BrigadierFrogok05:38
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BrigadierFrogwhere are the qt3 libs at05:38
BrigadierFrogbecause it seems they aren't in /usr/lib ..05:38
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KaoticEvilhi everyone :)05:39
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biffherounix: i have to put the kids to bed now, back in about 10 minute05:40
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sir_binaryi have this problem with my sound system ....the player is playing ...and the usual things like mute and so forth r positioned correctly ...yet i have no sound05:40
crimsunsir_binary: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''05:41
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drizlater smart asses05:44
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dr_willis0_o05:47
sir_binarycrimsun:did u waqnt me to send u the output05:47
sir_binary?05:48
crimsunsir_binary: pastebin it, plesae05:48
crimsunplease^05:48
kkathmanhowdy crimsun :)05:48
crimsunhi kkathman05:48
crimsunsir_binary: http://pastebin.ca for future reference, not private query :)05:49
crimsunsir_binary: now which sound card are you trying to use, the onboard or other?05:50
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sir_binaryother05:51
KaoticEvilhow can sf.net be offline!? :(05:51
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crimsunKaoticEvil: you mean, "when is it online?"05:51
crimsunsf.net is notorious for being unavailable when one needs to reach it05:51
sir_binaryim using ICE172405:52
crimsunsir_binary: ok, do you have alsa-tools-gui installed?05:53
sir_binaryit is installing05:54
crimsunok, then you'll need to use envy24control05:55
crimsunI don't have a card controlled by envy24control, so I can't help you beyond that, but there's plenty of assistance via Google05:55
sir_binarythuss05:56
sir_binarytchuss05:56
crimsun...?05:56
sir_binaryk thanks crimsun05:56
sir_binaryuhh no ...consider thuss and tchuss censord05:57
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biffherounix_infidel: from some of the writings on the thinkwiki, I believe the latest drivers are able to work with suspend, et al.05:57
KaoticEvilcrimsun: no, ive never had a problem with it being offline05:57
KaoticEvilbut im trying to get gyachE, and i cant05:58
biffherounix_infidel: meet me and one other person in #ati05:58
crimsunKaoticEvil: I've had problems over the past 5 years.05:58
KaoticEvilwierd05:59
KaoticEvilmaybe its a mirror issue?05:59
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KaoticEvilanyone know anything about printers?06:00
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Healotapart from using them?06:03
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KaoticEvilspecifically installing them on kubuntu dapper06:03
HealotKDE menu -> System Setting -> Printer?06:04
Healotenter admin mode, select port type, printer type, driver06:04
KaoticEvildone all that06:05
Healotif you need network printing, you need to set up an TCP/IP port then06:05
KaoticEvilnah, its a local LPT1 printer06:05
Healotmmmkay the printer is?06:05
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KaoticEvilHP Deskjet 820Cxi06:05
Healotwhat's the prblem you encounter?06:06
KaoticEvilim re-running the Add Printer wizard...06:07
KaoticEvili cant recall the exact error.. i did it before, and didnt have net access yet as i hadnt set up ndiswrapper06:07
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Healotndiswrapper has nothing to do with printing...06:08
KaoticEvili know06:09
KaoticEvilbut i didnt have net access to get help at the time06:09
KaoticEvilndiswrapper is for wireless drivers.. i know :)06:09
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HealotI;ll wait until you figure out what really happened06:10
KaoticEvilif it ever loads the printer list...06:11
thompamy repos are f'ed06:11
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ErtainHello everyone.06:12
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhas anyone been able to install wine on dapper x64?06:12
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suea_anyone here familiar with working with captive?06:13
thompafinally i got touchpad to die06:13
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sueaanyone here familiar with working with captive?06:15
ErtainI can't seem to get my tablet to work correctly.  Maybe some of you were here earlier today.  The darn thing thinks I'm doing a button press when I'm merely holding the stylus a centimeter above the writing field.06:16
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Healotsuea, it;s not supported by Ubuntu, but you can tell us what you're trying to do and problems you encountered06:16
HealotKaoticEvil, the printer list never load?06:17
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KaoticEvilyeah, it takes a while tho06:18
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KaoticEvili got it loaded, and picked the right model... it gave me a choice of driver, and i picked the recommended one (it supports color as well as greyscale)06:19
KaoticEvilHealot: the error is: "Unable to create Foomatic driver [HP-Deskjet820c.pnm2ppa] . Either the driver does not exist or you don't have the required permissions"06:20
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moparisthebestdoes anyone know            how I could get a clean boot? ssssssssssssomehow deleting my previous sesssion?06:20
moparisthebesti have obviously messed somthing up :P06:20
moparisthebestiiiiiiiiiiiii think i ended the wrong process or somtttttttttttthing06:20
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdyeah , id like to know tht too06:21
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kyle_Does anyone know why I can't get my webcam working? it says "could not connect to video device(/dev/video0)"06:22
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdkyle_: where r u trying to use your webcam?06:22
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdkyle_: or how?06:22
kyle_n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I would like to use it for amsn or whatever. but I can't seem to get it to load properly06:23
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdkyle_: hmm . most likely because of the driver , or your webcam is not /video006:24
BoSJo_Hi all. trying to install my Printer [Brother MFC-8420]  following this description : http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_install.html06:24
BoSJo_bosjo@BoSJo:~/Downloads/Drivers/Brother$ rpm -ihv --nodeps mfc8420lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm06:25
BoSJo_bash: rpm: command not found06:25
BoSJo_Wrong commands for Kubuntu or what?06:25
_modemare using a debian based distro?06:25
_modemBoSjo06:25
_modemrpm is for red hat based distros06:26
BoSJo_Using Kubunto....thats basically all i can telle you *LOL*06:26
Healot!alien06:26
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).06:26
_modemlike mandriva06:26
Healotinfo alien06:26
BoSJo_ooooooooook, got much to learn :-) It's like learning to ride a bike06:27
Healot!info alien06:27
ubotualien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB06:27
_modemdoes any1 knows how to repair grub when it cant read the /boot/grub/stage1 file?06:27
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_modemi cant re-install grub06:28
KaoticEvilHealot: did you see my above message with the error message?06:28
_modemwhen i try to install grub i have > The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.06:28
_modemany idea?06:28
HealotKaoticEvil: have you log on the Administrator Mode? in the printer control panel06:29
kyle_n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: hmm I will try reinstalling the drivers but i don't think that's the prob.. amsn says tehre are no drivers installed apparently06:29
KaoticEvilyes, i have06:29
KaoticEvili ran systemsettings with kdesu06:29
KaoticEvilclicking the Admin Mode button does nothing06:29
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Healotseems like permission error06:29
KaoticEvili dunno06:29
HealotKaoticEvil, just use the KDE menu > System Settings..06:30
nixternalouch min..that doesn't look pretty06:30
Healotand then Click on the Admin mode...06:30
nixternalow wow im stooopid..i was scrolled all the up top, chattin' to someone from hours ago ;)06:30
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdkyle_: try using it with other app , like camstream and see if it works , if it does it might be a config error , like the cam might be video1 intead of video0 or something like that06:30
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negocioi need to install dosemu06:32
negocioanyone can help me please?06:33
BoSJo__modem & ubotu : Hmmmm what do I do then??? they only have .rpm and .deb drivers for my printer??06:33
_modemuse the .deb06:33
_modem.deb are for (k)ubuntu06:33
BoSJo__modem: Ok, is that general for all drivers/files?06:34
negociohelping me installing dosemu please, anyone?06:34
_modemmmm i dont understand. .deb are debian packages06:34
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_modemubuntu is a debian-based distro06:34
_modemso, you can use .deb files06:35
_modemwithout problems06:35
BoSJo__modem: ok, thanks...... sorry but i'm a totally baby (_!_) in the linux section ;-)06:35
_modemhaha, dont problem06:35
_modemi-m not a grown up haha06:36
_modembut, does anyone knows how to repair the grub?06:36
Hobbsee!grub06:37
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:37
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negociohi06:38
negocioplease i need some help to install dosemu06:38
_modemyeah, i know that. but my grub cant read the stage1 file06:39
_modemso, i cant re install it06:39
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_modem(im with a live cd now)06:39
_modemwhen i try to re install grub (i did the chroot, etc) i have The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.06:39
Hobbsee_modem: ouch06:40
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_modembut my partitions are ok :)06:40
moparisthebestanyone have an idea how to bootttttttttttttt with a fresh session?06:40
moparisthebestive searched all over bbbbbbbbbbbbut cant find out how :(06:41
negociook, can anyone help me installing dosemu please06:41
moparisthebestand a bunch of strange things are happeninnnnnnnnnnnnng, such as the key holdddddddddddding thing06:41
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_modemany idea?06:41
moparisthebestits damn annoying :P06:41
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KaoticEvilAH! i can print now!!06:43
KaoticEvilsweet!06:44
KaoticEvil:D06:44
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negociohelp please installing dosemu06:45
Hobbseehi KaoticEvil06:45
kkathmanHobbsee :)06:46
Hobbseehi kkathman06:46
kkathmangreets :)06:46
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OOD_modem: check the second post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411306:46
OODnegocio: start adept and search for dosemu and install the package06:48
negociook06:48
_modemlets see...06:49
negociobut i need to06:49
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negociomake /home/negocio/dos as my c: with read/write options06:49
negociohow can i do that06:49
OODso you have dosemu installed already?06:49
_modemi've tried that. but still06:50
_modem...06:50
negociook ood06:50
_modemcant read the stage1 file06:50
negocioim searching06:51
negociodo i have to make a mount drive with vfat system filke06:51
OODnegocio: don't know, haven't used dosemu yet, check this site, the how-to should help you http://www.dosemu.org/06:52
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negocioi check it06:54
OOD_modem: you sure you're not mixing up your hard drives?06:54
negociobut i cant make it work06:54
_modemi only have 1 hard drive. with 6 partitons06:55
OODand you're giving grub the grub install the right partition?06:55
_modemyes. i tried with grub-install /dev/hdb (hdb is my hd)06:57
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OODi thought you only had 1 hard drive06:57
_modemi was repartioning my hd and the pc freezes, then, when i reboot, my grub didnt work06:57
_modemi only have 1 hd.06:58
_modemin hdb06:58
OODthen why would it be hdb06:58
KaoticEvilhow is it hdb then?06:58
KaoticEvilit should be hda06:58
OODit would be hda if it was 1 hard drive06:58
KaoticEvilhdb is primary slave, iirc06:58
_modemroot@ubuntu:/# mount06:58
_modem/dev/hdb8 on / type ext3 (rw)06:58
_modem/dev/hdb9 on /home type ext3 (rw)06:58
_modem/dev/hdb1 on /windows type ntfs (ro,noatime,nodiratime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dm                                                                                                   ask=077,nls=cp437,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1)06:58
_modem/dev/hdb7 on /media/descargas type vfat (rw)06:58
Hobbsee!paste06:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:59
_modemyes, sorry about that06:59
_modemI bought my pc with hd in primary slave07:01
Art_Has anybody been able to get CUPSYS working in Kubuntu Dapper?07:01
KaoticEvilArt_: i just got mine working :)07:03
Art_KaoticEvil, What's the secret?07:03
KaoticEvil_modem: you may want to look into making it the primary master...07:03
KaoticEvilArt_: i dunno... i got an HP printer.. just ran the printer wizard as root and it worked...07:03
Art_KaoticEvil, As root?  OK, how do yu do that?07:04
Art_sudo su?07:04
_modemyes, maybe, but in the past (when i reinstall windows) i've reinstalled grub without problems. I think its beacuse the pc freezes when i was re-partioning the hd07:04
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KaoticEvilArt_: open System Settings from the K menu07:04
_modemso the grub files are bad now07:04
KaoticEvilthen click on Printers, and then the Administrator Mode button07:05
Art_KaoticEvil, OK, then?07:05
OODthat's possible, although if you can acces your partition then it's unlikely anything went wrong07:05
Art_KaoticEvil, Thanks, I'll give it a try.07:05
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KaoticEvilArt_: i installed my printer... ran thru the Add printer Wizard07:06
BoSJoErrrrm, how do i log in as root (think i read that there werent any root user on Kubuntu), need to run command as root07:06
OODuse the sudo command07:07
Art_KaoticEvil, In the CUPS admin page?07:07
KaoticEvilyeah07:07
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BoSJoOOD: ok, SUDO my command07:07
_modemlook http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1667507:07
Art_KaoticEvil, I always get "Authentication Failed".07:08
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OODyeah07:08
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Hobbsee!root > BoSJo07:08
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__modemhi again07:14
__modemwell, i have to go bed. thank you to all you for the answers07:15
__modemsee ya07:15
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ChefWillhey Hobbsee07:17
Hobbseehi ChefWill07:17
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ChefWillWEP 40/104-bit hex07:21
ChefWillthis would be considered this right: A0F79CE1E307:21
ChefWill!ping07:21
ubotupong07:21
ChefWill!ping07:21
ChefWill!ping07:21
ChefWill!ping07:21
ChefWill!ping07:21
ubotupong07:21
ChefWillgosh :(07:21
ChefWillwhy does my wifi work flawyless w/ iwconfig + dhclient but not in knetworkmanager?07:22
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ChefWill!ping07:31
ubotupong07:31
ChefWillA0F79CE1E3 would be a hex wep key correct?07:32
HawkwindIt could be one of many many things actually07:32
ChefWillim pretty sure itts wep07:32
ChefWilli dont understand whats not working07:33
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ChefWilli use iwconfig+dhclient thru command line it works07:33
ChefWillknetworkmanager doesnt07:33
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HobbseeChefWill: that's hex, yeah07:33
ChefWillwell whats the deal then07:33
ChefWillwhats the diff between open system and shared key?07:34
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ubuntuol. algum do BR que possa me ajudar com uma dvida quanto a particionamento do kubuntu?07:35
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ChefWill!es07:36
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:36
ChefWiller07:37
ChefWill!br07:37
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.07:37
medeiros-brobrigado.07:37
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Kr4t05I'm having problems with my RCA Lyra RD1072A in Konqueror, is there anyway I can use a different file browser to move files to my MP3 player.07:38
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orient2000Hi! I need some help. My dpkg process was interrupted. I need to run dpkg --configure -a but I do not have superuser privilages. How can I do that? Should I create account root?07:40
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ChefWillif you dont have super user privaleges how do you plan on making root account07:40
orient2000I createt my login and password when I installed Linux. I do not know why I do not have these privilages.07:42
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mcrandello!mp307:42
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:42
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orient2000I am the only user.07:42
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ChefWillthen you do have super user07:43
ChefWilltype sudo dpkg --configure -a07:43
ChefWillthen type your users password07:43
orient2000dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege07:44
DocTomoemaybe someone in here can help me with my dapper-apache2-php5-Problem (which is in no way connected to KDE) ... apache2 does not use php5 at my place, altought php5* and libapache2-mod-php5 is installed, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5* links to /etc/apache2/mods-avalible/php5* and the server has been restarted. all the server wants to spew out is the script source itself. any suggestions I could try?07:45
moparisthebestanyone ever try to install the sun java jdk with adept?07:46
moparisthebestit wont go past 20% on the installing window07:46
DocTomoemoparisthebest: worked for me07:47
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moparisthebesti think its because i have to accept the user agreement DocTomoe07:48
moparisthebestbut it wont let me hit enter in adept07:48
moparisthebestdid you use apt-get maybe?07:48
DocTomoemoparisthebest: dang, I misread you. Yes, I am using apt-get (as I think adept is dramatically broken and should not be used).07:49
moparisthebestoh, well that explains why i just had to reinstall :P07:50
DocTomoereinstalling because of adepts errors is not uncommon, happened to me, too: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11281907:52
orient2000what does it mean ID 1000 ?07:56
moparisthebestso how do you get a list of applicattion names DocTomoe ?07:57
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DocTomoemoparisthebest: basically: apt-cache search [term to search] .07:58
moparisthebestoh, thanks :)07:58
DocTomoetry apt-cache search game ;) no need for sudo to perform an search.07:58
DocTomoeorient2000: id 1000 afair is the user id of the first system user in ubuntu07:59
moparisthebestgreat DocTomoe, it worked, thanks alot :)08:00
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sabaal*Knock, knock.* Anyone here?08:11
Melchiorreme!08:11
sabaalWell, that's one.08:11
crimsunno, no one's here. We're just figments.08:11
sabaalI see.08:12
sabaalPerhaps I should come back when you've materialized.08:12
sabaalExcuse the hideously noobish question, but does anyone have a clue how I might enable MIDI playback? I'm no good with multimedia.08:13
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sabaalAnd the figments fade away...08:13
[TSK] Greetings.  How about that?  I actually got Kubuntu up and running.  8)08:13
MelchiorreI've had absolutely no luck with midi, but you can try easy Ubuntu08:13
Melchiorre!easyubuntu08:14
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.08:14
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Hobbseesabaal: i'd try checking !restricted08:14
Hobbsee!restricted08:14
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:14
thoreauputic!midi08:14
ubotuTrouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo08:14
Hobbseeah08:14
Melchiorre[TSK] : congratulations! :)08:14
sabaalWell, how convenient. :D08:14
[TSK] Nice.  That's a slightly handy bot.08:14
=== [TSK] is checking out Kubuntu for only the second time ever.
Hobbseeyep :)08:15
[TSK] I've been using Mandriva Cooker on my main box and Mandriva 2006 on my servers up until now.08:15
sabaalThis OS has made my life very happy (mostly because I've just surfaces from a whirlpool of MS screw-over-ing).08:16
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=== [TSK] has been using Linux for about the past 3 years and is NEVER going to use a Micro$loth OS EVER again.
sabaalNo hands-on experience yet, but I hear that Vista is a step backwards. You can expect quite a flood of activity here when thousands of people switch to Linux. :P08:17
[TSK] Kinda nice how quickly Kubuntu took to 99.9% of my hardware.  It even autoconfigured the network.  That's a bit slick.08:18
sabaalI wish I could say the same.08:18
[TSK] Vista is a step forward in eye-candy from what I've heard, but a step backward on ever other aspect.08:18
sabaalI've had to get my hands dirty with ndiswrapper, with a Netgear WiFi adapter.08:18
[TSK] Supposedly the DRM on Vista is going to be utterly out of control.08:18
sabaalAlmost made me vomit.08:18
orient2000If I have ID1000 why I do not have supersuser privilages?08:18
sabaalYeah, I'm a total moron. What's DRM?08:19
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[TSK] Superuser is ID0 innit?08:19
sabaalI thought so too.08:19
[TSK] DRM = Digital Rights Management08:19
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sabaal*Checks some stuff...*08:19
[TSK] It means if you BUY a song (regardless of where you bought it or how LEGAL it is) that you can ONLY play that song in Vista, and if you try to copy it to your MP3 player to take with you to work, then you must get PERMISSION from Micro$loth.08:20
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sabaalOuch. :/08:20
[TSK] Vista supposedly also allows Micro$loth to examine the contents of your hard disk pretty much at will too.  I can do without that thank you very much.  8)08:20
sabaalSounds like a pain in the... however you spell "key-stir".08:21
sabaalYou know why they're doing that, right?08:21
sabaalMS tech support needs new porn. :P08:21
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sabaalYeah, I'm showing root as ID0. My personal account, on the other hand, is 1000.08:23
[TSK] M$ tech support needs a format and reinstall...  8-/08:23
Hobbseesabaal: about that netgear wifi adapter - what model is it?08:23
[Evil] [Ernie] _microsoft tech support needs to learn how to speak english08:23
sabaalWG111T08:23
sabaalThey've outsourced everything.08:23
[Evil] [Ernie] _thus, the problem08:23
sabaalEven their Xboxes are made in Mexico.08:23
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Hobbsee!wifi08:23
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:23
[Evil] [Ernie] _you call tech support asking a simple question08:24
[Evil] [Ernie] _they couldnt answer it if their life depended on it08:24
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[Evil] [Ernie] _2 weeks later you happen across the answer08:24
sabaalI got angry a while ago, decided I'd call them.08:24
[TSK] Sweet!  Kubuntu actually comes with an OpenOffice document of a CD cover I can print for the CD case!  That's cute.  8)08:24
sabaal"Dude, your freakin' Windows XP installer just deleted my Linux partition, and now I can't boot. I think you owe me a new harddrive."08:24
sabaal"Sorry, but we don't provide support for other operatin systems."08:25
sabaalWait... it does?08:25
Hobbseesabaal: not sure if it uses the same chipset of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 but the instructions should be fairly close08:25
sabaalThat's awesome! :D08:25
sabaalOh, no, I'm not experiencing any problems. In fact, I'm using it right now.08:25
Hobbseesabaal: nice!08:25
sabaalI just commented that it was a pain in the ass to get it this way. :P08:26
Hobbseeah :P08:26
Hobbseesabaal: how so?08:26
[TSK] Nice.  Actually, it seems the Kubuntu DVD comes with quite a lot of nifty bits in the 'example-content' folder.  I'm exploring it right now.  If this lives up to what I've seen so far, then I might actually have found my replacement for Mandriva Linux.  8)08:27
sabaalNdiswrapper's docs aren't very clear on what order hardware should be connected/detected/installed/etc. I had to reboot several times because of what I could only guess was a kernel panic.08:27
sabaalAnd I don't even know what a kernel panic is. :P08:27
Hobbseesabaal: ouch.  kernel panics dont usually happen08:27
Hobbseesabaal: linux form of a BSoD08:27
sabaalAh. :P08:27
sabaalWell, I think I might actually be using corrupted drivers.08:27
sabaalI still have to modprobe ndiswrapper every time I boot.08:27
Hobbseesabaal: want to pastebin lspci please?08:27
Hobbseei'm not sure what chipset that model is08:28
sabaal...What?08:28
MistaEDhmm, i have a few wg111's lying around... i take it the kernel has no native prism driver support for it? :(08:28
sabaalNope. Not that I'm aware of, any way.08:28
sabaalIf it does, I will be very angry.08:28
Hobbseesabaal: kdesu kwrite /etc/modules, add "ndiswrapper" on a new line, and hit enter - that'll solve the bootup one08:28
HobbseeMistaED: it may not be a prism card08:29
MistaEDi remember looking up a site where someone gutted one out and was reverse-engineering it08:29
Hobbseesabaal: in a console, type lspci08:29
sabaalHobbsee: Ah, I'll try that. Thanks.08:29
MistaEDhobbsee: yeah, they're a bit flaky when it comes to what chipset they're using with different versions of the same model =/08:29
Hobbseesabaal: it'll give you a whole lot of data - copy the bit that says about an ethernet controller, or just paste the entire thing at pastebin.ca and give us the link08:29
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HobbseeMistaED: yeah, netgear's a terror for that - i've got a wg511v2 made in china one :P08:30
MistaEDlike this other wg511 china pcmcia i have, i still don't know if it's a prism08:30
MistaEDheh08:30
Hobbseeno, made in china ones use the marvell chipset08:30
MistaEDoh, that's probably why08:30
Hobbseewhich, fortunately, there's a freebsd versoin of08:30
MistaEDi remember using some smc driver with ndiswrapper last time to make it work08:31
sabaallspci says: "Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 78)"08:31
Hobbseelisted on the wg511v2 made in china wiki page, if you're interested08:31
Hobbseehmmm..that's useful of it, i'm not sure what chipset that is.08:31
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[TSK] Well, I'm enjoting so far that Kubuntu is choosing all my favorite viewers for various media files by DEFAULT without having to be TOLD that Kaffeine is my preferred video player.  8)08:32
[TSK] *enjoying08:32
ChefWillHobbsee:  :(08:32
sabaalKaffeine's been giving me some crap lately.08:33
MistaEDdoes ndiswrapper support WPA at all?08:33
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sabaalDepends on what WPA is.08:33
sabaal:P08:33
[TSK] sabaal: Really?  The latest versions of Kaffeine have been running perfectly for me.08:33
sabaalI'm a moron, remember?08:33
[TSK] WPA is a wireless security measure08:33
sabaal[TSK] : It's kinda finnicky with me about whether or not to display a file's video stream.08:34
[TSK] sabaal: Are you actually a moron, or are you just uneducated?  There IS a difference you know...  8)08:34
CornelliusI can't see my WIndows XP partition from Ubuntu08:34
CornelliusI have a 250 G that I splitted in 2. 125 G (NTFS XP) and 125 G (Ubuntu)08:34
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sabaal[TSK] : Well, I'm definitely no moron. That's just a generic phrase I use online in place of a shrug. :P08:35
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[TSK] <sabaal> I'm a moron, remember?  <- Don't say this if it isn't true.  It gives people the wrong impression about you...  8)08:36
[TSK] /tease sabaal08:36
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=== [TSK] pokes fun at sabaal for being a moron.
sabaal[TSK] : I find that it's usually easier to deal with people when they think you're much less intelligent than you are. People like thinking they know things.08:37
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[TSK] Just kidding, sir.  If you are using Linux then you can't be a moron.  8)08:37
sabaal[TSK] : Ah, good point. :D08:37
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sabaal*Is sweating all over the place.* Is it possible for it to get HOTTER at night?08:38
[TSK] Aye.  It is possible...  Don't ask questions like that or it WILL get hotter.  8)08:39
sabaalAs it just did. Wonderful.08:39
=== [TSK] lives in Utah.
sabaal*Soaks his shirt.*08:39
=== [TSK] practically lives in front of his fan (turned on high at all times).
sabaalWell, you don't have it too bad. :P08:40
[TSK] I'm thinking about getting a little hover-fan to follow me around everywhere I go.  8)08:40
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sabaalYer gonna spend a fortune in batteries for something like that.08:40
[TSK] Solar powered mebbe?08:40
[TSK] 8)08:40
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sabaalBut what will you do when it gets hotter at night?08:41
[TSK] Hmmm...  Mebbe I should just move outta Utah...  I hate it here anyways...  8)08:41
sabaalYeah, I lived there for a while.08:41
sabaalImpossible to make enough money.08:42
[TSK] Anyone here from Australia that wants to hire a good Linux network tech?  8)08:42
sabaalWait...08:42
=== [TSK] wants a job in a country that appreciates hard workers. 8)
sabaal...you live in front of your fan, but you want to go to Australia?08:42
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sabaal*Looks for the sense in that.* :P08:42
[TSK] I didn't say I hated Utah because of the heat.  I hate Utah for OTHER reasons.  The heat I can tolerate..  8)08:42
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sabaalAs long as you have a solar-powered hover fan.08:43
[TSK] LOL08:43
antinobodyThere are many reasons to hate Utah.08:43
antinobodyBesides, Australia wouldn't be that warm now08:43
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antinobodyhe could just migrate, like birds, only backwards08:43
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sabaalNo?08:43
antinobodyIt's winter08:43
MistaEDsydney is a bit chilly atm yeah08:44
sabaalOh, yeah. Forgot about the hemisphere thing.08:44
antinobodyI never could figure out how that worked astro-physically08:44
[TSK] I hate to be prejudiced against a whole GROUP of people as I'm not a bigot or anything, but the god's honest truth is that the main thing I've learned to hate about Utah is the Mormons.  I didn't used to hate them, but they've TAUGHT me to hate them over many years.08:44
sabaalThe Earth rotates on a tilted axis, right?08:44
antinobodysabaal: Yeah, but it also orbits an ellipse08:45
antinobodysabaal: you'd think that would have a bigger effect08:45
antinobodysabaal: Obviously it doesn't so I'm missing something08:45
sabaalAt this distance, not really.08:45
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antinobodymmm, perhaps08:45
antinobody[TSK] : Mormons have to be good at something, right?08:45
sabaalAs the Earth orbits the sun, that axis doesn't rotate with it. So at one point in orbit, the bottom half is tilted more towards the sun, and the top half is tilted away.08:45
[TSK] The other thing I've learned to hate about Utah is the wages here.  I have YET to find a job here that's willing to actually pay a person a fair wage for the work they expect.08:46
antinobody[TSK] : It just happens to be annoying people08:46
sabaalAnd winning Jeopardy.08:46
sabaalAnd being my mother. :/08:46
antinobodysabaal: Really, how many mormons are your mother?08:46
nm_chiliantinobody: no, the orbit doesn't have much effect. The sun's energy doesn't drop in intensity very much due to such a small distance (astronomically speaking). The fact that the energy has to go through more of the Earth's atmosphere when a hemisphere is tilted away from the sun has a much greater impact.08:46
[TSK] Every job I've had here expects a person to do the work of 2 people and only wants to pay half the wages that one person should get for half the work.  It's insane.08:46
sabaalantinobody: Two. My biological mother, and my bishop, who nags like a woman.08:47
antinobodynm_chili: That helps.  Granted, I'm an Environmental Engineering student, not an astrophysicist, so I only care because I'm obsessive08:47
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antinobodysabaal: You know, you got that "nagging" terminology from a very mormon-like mindset08:47
[TSK] LOL08:48
antinobodysabaal: It's been my experience women "nag" no more than men08:48
sabaalantinobody: Lucky you. :P08:48
sabaalHoly vomit-inducing painkillers, it's HOT!08:49
[TSK] Welcome to Global Warming, folks.  It's only gonna get hotter (until the ice-age hits)...  8)08:49
sabaalSee, someone's got it.08:50
sabaalPeople don't seem to realize that global warming is natural.08:50
[TSK] Hahahah!08:50
antinobodysabaal: where I live there's a slightly lesser-degree of gender-stereotyping, so it may be that they become less inclined to copy the expectation of "naggin".  Also, it's framed differently08:50
sabaal"We're coming out of a freakin' ice age! Of course it's getting warmer!"08:50
sabaalantinobody: By the way, where might you live?08:51
antinobodysabaal: Portland OR, al momento08:51
[TSK] Sure it's natural, but we've been accellerating the natural phenomenon by spewing our greenhouse gases into the air.  The planet will respond by trying to balance out the imbalance.  Result?  Another Ice Age.  8)08:51
sabaalantinobody: Ah, Oregon. One of the few states I don't remember being in.08:51
[TSK] Just wait and see.  We'll all be moving toward the equator for warmth soon.  8)08:52
cvt|experti installed mplayer, gxine, totem, vlc and still can't play videos. how can play videos?08:52
antinobodysabaal: Although the town I come from is fairly rural, (Portland is Oregon's "big city"), so I've seen both ends of Oregon's sociology08:52
cvt|expertbreezy badger08:52
antinobody!RestrictedFormats08:52
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:52
[TSK] cvt|expert: What kind of videos?  DVDs?  Windows Media Files?08:52
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sabaalWMV was a pain too. :P08:52
cvt|expertwmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc.08:52
cvt|experti can't play any08:53
Hobbseeantinobody: it's not, it's about 15C here...08:53
[TSK] avi and mpg should play out of the box, no?  Those are fairly standardized formats last I heard.08:53
antinobodyHobbsee: It's roughly 23C at midnight here, 15C is cooler08:53
sabaalMPG? That's strange. I never had to do anything to make those work.08:53
Hobbsee!mpg08:53
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:53
Hobbsee!wmv08:54
sabaalWell, AVI commonly uses proprietary (sp?) codecs, does it not?08:54
Hobbseehmmm...that must be covered in restricted too then08:54
antinobodyHobbsee: it is08:54
Hobbseeyeah, that's the problem - the proprietary codecs - not how popular they all are08:54
[TSK] Well, that's true, but I've not had any troubles playing any AVI files I've found under Linux.08:54
sabaalYeah, me neither. That's kinda strange.08:55
antinobodyTSK:  That tends to depend on what exact encoder was used for the AVI08:55
antinobodysome of them are free, some are not (I think)08:55
[TSK] The only files I had any troubles with under Linux were the Windows Media formats and the QuickTime formats, and both of those are becoming easier to play as time goes on.08:55
antinobodyOr I'm wrong again, which happens often08:55
antinobodyask Hobbsee08:55
sabaalDivX and XviD are pretty common, and I don't think those are included, are they?08:55
[TSK] Oh, and of course DVD...08:55
Hobbseesabaal: no idea08:55
Hobbseedvd's also covered in restricted08:56
[TSK] That one was a problem until I learned about libdvdcss or whatever08:56
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sabaalNow I remember why I like IRC so much more than forums.08:56
sabaalI just solved everything that was wrong with my system, and then a bit more.08:57
sabaalIn half an hour.08:57
Hobbseesabaal: they're correct08:57
MistaED15C during the day in sydney is alright, but here in campbelltown (near sydney) the mornings are still cold getting up =/08:57
[TSK] I'ma have to remember that the bot here is loaded full of useful links...  That's gonna come in handy when I install Kubuntu dual-boot on this system.  8)08:57
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orient2000How can I rip DVD's into avi?08:57
CornelliusCaptiveNTFS ftw ! http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/08:57
cvt|expertdo you know how to play wmv?08:57
sabaalWMVs need a Windows codec, I believe.08:58
Hobbseesabaal: forum's arent bad with the search though - *if* you know what info is right, and what isnt.  which kinda negates the purpose, as if you already knew, why would you look them up?08:58
emonkeyIdo playing wmv with vlc08:58
Hobbsee!wmv > cvt|expert08:58
Hobbsee[TSK] : very :)08:58
[TSK] Ripping DVDs isn't usually a good topic for Free Open Source channels.  You can find channels that will discuss that sort of thing, but Open Source channels usually try to avoid topics like that one.  8)08:58
emonkey!wmv > emonkey08:58
emonkeynice query answer 08:58
sabaalIs that a Japanese character?08:59
sabaalHaha.08:59
[TSK] Looks like one08:59
sabaalHow clever.08:59
sabaalIt is.08:59
emonkeydon't now08:59
sabaalKatakana. I forget which one.08:59
sabaalTsu, I think.08:59
Hobbseeit's a favorite character of one of the ops08:59
sabaalI never thought of that. :P08:59
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[TSK] Ya, me neither08:59
antinobodyUgh, I need to start studying my Japanese this weekend08:59
[TSK] That's VERY creative use of foreign language content.  8)08:59
antinobodyI should stop jumping into foreign language programs mid-way through, it's a bad idea09:00
emonkeyOrginally the idea isn't from me... I've seen that by another user in this channel09:00
sabaalIsn't there a KDE language learning app?09:00
Hobbseei think so09:01
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emonkeykwordquiz - flashcard and vocabulary learning program for KDE09:02
sabaalThat won't do much beyond alphabet and vocab.09:02
sabaalBut then, not many programs could.09:02
[TSK] SuhWEET!!!  Amarok comes on the Kubuntu DVD!  My FAVORITE MP3 manager by FAR.  8)09:02
sabaalYeah, it's pretty much standard now.09:03
sabaalI think it was even running on the default session after I installed. :P09:03
[TSK] Okay, I think I might like Kubuntu this time around.  I didn't like it that much last time I tried it, but it sure does seem quite a lot more 'polished' and 'professional' than it was a year and a half ago.  I'm REALLY LIKING the default choices of software this time around.09:04
Hobbsee[TSK] : ah, yeah...a lot happens in a year and a half. that would be the hoary release you last tried with, presumably - the first for kubuntu09:05
[TSK] It's just acting a lot more 'integrated' than it used to.  More like it's supposed to be.  8)09:05
sabaalAnd it uses the Crystal window decoration, with custom buttons. That made me very, very happy.09:06
[TSK] Aye.  It was back when Ubuntu with KDE was still a pretty new idea...  They hadn't really gotten it all fit together all that well back then.  8)09:06
[TSK] It surely is leaps and bounds ahead of where it started out tho.  It's really looking quite slick now.  I'ma have to pass this DVD around a bit once I'm done with it.  8)09:07
[TSK] Ah, nice...  And OpenOffice 2.0 with KDE extensions.  VERY nice.  I'm happy about that one for sure.  8)09:08
[TSK] Might have finally swayed me away from Mandriva...  This is really looking nice so far.09:08
sabaalI've never tried Mandriva. What are the differences?09:09
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MistaEDthe kubuntu live cd i tried yesterday seems far more polished, i can't say i like the kwin theme though, too bubbly with the wrong shade of blue, but the rest of it seems much better than when i used it last time09:10
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[TSK] Mandriva was a RedHat based distro in it's earlier days, but they've since bought out Lycoris and ummm...  Connectiva and have since been adding those technologies to their own.  It's gotten to be quite a nice distro, but truth be told, I've been seeking a distro that requires less customization to be useful.  Mandriva fills all my needs, but it takes a fair bit of customization to get it to the point I like.  Looks like Kubuntu will re09:12
[TSK] out of a desktop.  It's already mostly there by default.  8)09:12
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orient2000How can I find out what programs are runing in a memory and how can I kill some application. Something is runing and interrupting my update manager.09:13
[TSK] Well, as for blue, I'm dead sick to death of the color blue thanks to my years of hating Windoze.  I'd LOVE to see a better choice of colors for Kubuntu, but other'n that, I like what I see so far.  8)09:13
sabaalksysguard, if I'm not mistaken. Should be in your K Menu somewhere.09:13
sabaalUnder System, apparently.09:14
Hobbsee[TSK] : it's easy enough to change, and they're likely to change for the next release09:14
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orient2000thanks09:14
[TSK] orient2000: KSysGuard (Ctrl-Alt-Esc I believe) if you are working in a GUI, or 'top' or 'pstree' or 'ps' will work if you are working in a shell.09:14
Hobbseeorient2000: type top, and k then the number of the app that you want to kill, then hit enter09:14
[TSK] Ctrl-Alt-Esc = XKill...  Sorry.  Wrong key combination.  Don't click anything after using those keys.09:15
MistaED[TSK] : the oxygen icon group discovered there are more colours in the spectrum than just blue!09:15
[TSK] Hit escape instead.09:15
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[TSK] Hrm...  What IS the key combination to run KSysGuard in Kubuntu?  It was Ctrl-Alt-Esc under Mandriva.  I just assumed that was a KDE default...  8)09:16
emonkeyCtrl-Esc09:16
Hobbseectrl+alt+delete?09:16
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[TSK] Ah!  It's Ctrl-Esc as emonkey said.09:17
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sabaalI have Ctrl+Alt+Del, but I think I might have done that manually.09:17
sabaalI don't even remember any more. :P09:17
[TSK] Ctrl-Alt-Del is manually configured for sure, as it usually runs the reboot process under most Linux's I've ever tried.  8)09:17
sabaalAh, that makes sense.09:18
sabaalWin+Esc does that for me. :P09:18
sabaalOh, wait, that's the logout prompt.09:19
sabaalCrap, I don't even know my own hotkeys!09:19
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[TSK] Win-Esc does nothing on mine, but I haven't had time to customize yet.  I'm holding off on that until I get Kubuntu installed onto the HD.  8)09:20
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sabaalOh, you're running off the DVD?09:21
[TSK] Gnome?  Gnome???  Ewwwwwww...  (Just teasing)09:21
[TSK] Aye.  I'm running off the live DVD at the moment.  Testing around a bit.  Exploring.  8)09:21
MistaED[TSK] : i prefer orange to blue atm, hehe09:21
sabaalGnomes are short. Crowded elevators smell much different to them.09:22
[TSK] EWWWW!09:22
sabaalHaha.09:22
[TSK] 10 yard penalty for roughing the listeners with icky visuals...  8)09:22
sabaal*Types ten yards of text.*09:22
sabaalOr perhaps I shouldnt...09:23
antinobodysabaal: Would you measure that as a text line, or ten yards of paper-filled text?09:24
[TSK] LOL09:24
sabaalScreen space. Ten yards of pixels filled with text in my smallest font, at my highest resolution, on my smallest monitor.09:25
[TSK] Sweet.  I found Kopete.09:25
sabaalFound?09:25
sabaalWhere did it go?09:25
[TSK] Different menu layout a bit from Mandriva.  Things are easier to find here once I've located them for the first time.  Was used to seeking things deep in crazy menu trees.  8)09:26
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sabaalWhy not just use Katapult. I think that's running by default on the DVD.09:27
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[TSK] Katawhat?  Never heard of it.09:28
sabaalReally?09:28
sabaalHit Alt+Space.09:29
sabaalAnd type the name of a program.09:29
sabaalOr a mathematical equation.09:29
[TSK] Really?  Hmmm...  What's this?09:29
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[TSK] O really?09:29
sabaalOr a file in your home folder.09:29
[TSK] Hmmm.09:29
sabaalIt does lots of stuff. :D09:29
[TSK] This could be entertaining.09:29
[TSK] New toy...  8)09:29
sabaalI think you can even add your own, although I've never looked for the config file to try.09:30
MistaEDdoes kubuntu/kde run with less ram than ubuntu/gnome? i'm curious to whoever has tested it on low ram (128mb)09:30
sabaalI've never used Gnome before.09:30
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[TSK] I usually have a little command launcher on my taskbar, and Yakuake and Kompose running, but I've not yet heard of Katapult before.  This is a new toy to me.  8)09:30
sabaalYes, it's quite useful.09:31
sabaalIf you run out of space for hotkeys, Alt+Space is your catch-all.09:31
[TSK] Looks like another new toy to add to my 'must-have' list.09:32
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[TSK] Really nice little collection of example files on the Live DVD too.  I really like that.  That'll be handy for the newbies I give copies of this DVD to.  8)09:37
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cvt|expertHobbsee, thx. that worked.09:39
Hobbsee:)09:39
[TSK] Turning out to be quite a newbie friendly distro so far actually.  The more I look it over the more convinced I am that this is the distro I should start carrying around to show to friends when they ask about Linux.  8)09:39
sabaalI converted two of my friends in the last month. Neither of them had ever set foot outside of Windows before.09:41
visik7anyone with an asus V6J ?09:41
sabaalI'm currently helping one install ZSNES from source. :D09:41
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unix_infidelsabaal: why, when there's perfectly good binaries available.09:42
sabaalAre there?09:42
sabaalI haven't run across any.09:42
[TSK] Emulators are a good way to convince gamers...  I've got one friend who couldn't care less about Windoze games anymore cause he's too busy reliving the 'old days' of vidgaming on various emulators.  8)09:42
sabaalHaha.09:42
unix_infidelsabaal: i'm apt-getting them right now.09:42
sabaalHow 'bout emulating an emulator?09:42
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sabaalI found last week that VisualBoyAdvance actually runs faster when I run the EXE version under Wine. :P09:43
unix_infidelsabaal: yea, i run visualboyadvance under windows...09:43
[TSK] Well, I've emulated an Amiga inside a VMware WinXP install just to see if it could be done.  8)09:43
unix_infidelsabaal: the only thing that sucks about zsnes is the opengl stuff.09:43
sabaalYou don't have to tell me.09:43
sabaalI'm using... I think the first ATI Radeon that was ever made. Not the first model, but the very first unit.09:44
sabaalIt sees OpenGL, and just fills the screen with question marks.09:44
cvt|expertthis is how i got to make mplayer play wmv files for anyone who needs it: http://tinyurl.com/zjm8e09:44
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unix_infidelgood thing i finallly got some nvidia support for my mx40009:45
unix_infidelgf2 biatch.... :)09:45
[TSK] Hmmm...  This package manager looks kinda slick.  I still think I might install SmartPM tho.  I've gotten used to it.  8)09:45
[TSK] Hey, speaking of nVidia...  Is it easy to get the nVidia drivers up and running under Kubuntu / Ubuntu / Debian?09:46
unix_infidel[TSK] : took less than a minute here...09:47
[TSK] Also...  How Debian compatible is Ubuntu overall?  Can I install packages from Debian sources without wrecking my Kubuntu install?09:47
unix_infidel[TSK] : its not advised, but it depends on the package.09:48
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Blissex[TSK] : if you are really really really good with APT and understand it inside out it is doable.09:48
unix_infidelpeople who need specific commonly used software report that things that are backported from debian sid work quite well.09:48
unix_infidelthen we use them :)09:48
[TSK] Ah.  Aighty.  So kinda like Mandriva and Redhat then.  A few packages are compatible, but most will require fiddling and tweaking?09:48
unix_infidel[TSK] : nothing like RH and mandriva.09:49
Blissex[TSK] : yes, about like Mandriva and RedHat but not as bad _if you use source .debs_.09:49
unix_infidelwe spend more time actually using our computers and not fiddling with them :)09:49
unix_infidelBlissex: you dont have to be great with apt, just be able to use a text editor and a command line.09:49
[TSK] Under Mandriva, one can install a few Redhat RPMs, but most will require fiddling to get them working right due to small internal differences between the two distros.09:49
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unix_infidel[TSK] : that usually causes more breakage then does debian and ubuntu packages.09:50
Blissex[TSK] : anyhow the big deal is that Ubuntu is based on 'unstable' which is based on a completely different set of base libraries than Debian, which currently is 'Sarge'.09:50
Blissexunix_infidel: you have to be great with APT to understand dependencies, how to fix and how to do pinning.09:50
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Blissexunix_infidel: and how to fix issues when compiling source packages too.09:51
[TSK] Ah.  I see.  I can handle that then.  Tho I may need to come back and ask a few questions now and again.  8)09:51
unix_infideluhh, that's just basic package management dude.09:51
unix_infidel[TSK] : questions are always welcome, doesnt mean they'll get answered right away :)09:52
[TSK] So, are .debs of Google Earth available yet?  Only asking because .RPMs of it just showed up on Mandriva PLF sources in Cooker the other day and I'm kinda excited about that.  8)09:52
Blissex[TSK] : crazy guy, but I have done some Ubuntu-repos-for-Debian sample configs.09:52
Blissex[TSK] : http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/APT/09:52
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[TSK] Right on.  Thanks much for that info.  I'ma write that down for later use.  8)09:53
jasonhello yall09:54
[TSK] Greetings, jason09:55
jasonI've come from the far away land of suse 10.1, in search of something new09:55
[TSK] Y'all?  You from one of the western states I'm guessing?  8)09:56
jasonactually i'm from ottawa09:56
unix_infidel[TSK] : we'ere from all over the world.09:56
[TSK] I've come here from Mandriva Linux myself.  First time booting Kubuntu in about a year and a half.09:56
[TSK] Ottawa?  Right on.  I've not heard anyone say "y'all" since I left Montana.  8)09:57
Hobbseehi jason09:57
jasonwell I was half joking about yall09:57
Hobbseewow, you got suse to install..09:57
jasonheh09:57
jasonand many times09:57
Hobbsee[TSK] : i think there are, maybe, there's a howto on ubuntuforums.com for that09:57
[TSK] unix_infidel: I kinda guessed we had folks from all over the world here...  This is after all a Linux channel...  8)09:58
unix_infidel[TSK] : fortunately we have one of the former mandriva ops in here.09:58
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jasonis there a good source of recent sources.list additions?09:58
unix_infidelhe's been active in mandriva for a long time and now he's testing KUbuntu.  You might know him.  He's the founder of the SeerOfSouls repo.09:58
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[TSK] Seriously?  Hawkwind is here??09:59
unix_infidel:P09:59
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[TSK] OMG!  It's Hawkwind!!09:59
[TSK] Right ON!!  He's the greatest!  8)09:59
Hobbsee!repos > jason09:59
[TSK] Hawkwind rulez!  I'ma start a Hawkwind fan-club right now!  Who wanna join?  8)10:00
Hobbseejason: one big list of repos - not using random repos from everywhere10:00
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jasonthanks10:01
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[TSK] How's Kubuntu on laptops?  Lotta work to get it going, or fairly happy straight outta the gate?10:01
unix_infidel[TSK] : depends on the laptop.10:02
unix_infidelexcept for the ati video driver's mine is almost 100%10:02
[TSK] Older laptop.  Sony.10:02
unix_infidelshould do just fine.10:02
[TSK] Right on.  I only ask because my roomate has a WinME powered laptop that's getting SERIOUSLY unreliable at the software level (hardware's still just fine).  8)10:03
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Hobbsee[TSK] : possible multimedia keys not working, possible lack of suspend and/or hibernate.  the rest shoudl work.10:03
[TSK] They wanna try out Linux, and I'm thinking Kubuntu might be the Linux to start them out on.  8)10:03
[TSK] Suspend and Hibernate can be done in software easily enough, and I already know tricks to get the multimedia keys working right.  8)10:04
unix_infidel[TSK] : like i said, we spend more time using our computers than fiddling with them.10:04
[TSK] Small kernel patch should get the suspend and hibernate going.10:04
Hobbseeunix_infidel: i wouldnt bet on that10:05
Hobbsee[TSK] : cool10:05
Hobbsee[TSK] : you a developer at all?10:05
unix_infidelHobbsee: comparatively.10:05
[TSK] If that's the only two problems I'll have to contend with then I should be able to have my roommate's laptop running on Linux by tomorrow evening.  8)10:05
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cvt|expertwhat will happen if i end every process in system monitor that's sleeping?10:06
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[TSK] Hobbsee: At the moment my development skills are entirely in web-related coding.  PHP, etc...  Although I can compile source code easily enough, I'm not yet proficient in reading or writing C/C++, etc.  Give me time tho and I will learn.  8)10:06
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[TSK] cvt|expert: You'll prolly end up shutting down something important along the way.  8)10:07
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Hobbsee[TSK] : ah okay :P  I was just thinking of the specs abotu getting laptops better recognised for the next version, and it sounds like you've got some skills there.10:08
[TSK] Sleeping tasks are just waiting for something to do.  They aren't totally inactive, they are just not 'busy at the moment'.  8)10:08
cvt|expert[TSK] , do you end any processes that are sleeping to save resources?10:08
mcrandelloplease don't wake them no don't shake them leave them where they lay, they're only sleeping10:08
cvt|expertahha10:09
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[TSK] Hobbsee: I've only got skills related to laptops working better because another friend of mine had an HP laptop that fought us every step of the way getting Mandriva on to it and we totally had to research for weeks to find all the perfect solutions to the troubles we had.  However, the solutions we found seem to work on a rather wide variety of laptops.  I've got bookmarks to all the goodies we found on my Mandriva install under my Fir10:09
Xemanthis it possible to install with desktop x86 image10:10
Xemanthi accidentally downloaded i t10:10
Xemanth?10:10
Hobbsee[TSK] : nice!10:10
gioacchinohello10:10
mcrandello[TSK] : do these fixes include a working fglrx big-desktop  setup?10:10
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gioacchinocan you link the list of pacage of kubuntu?10:10
[TSK] cvt|expert: I generally don't have any real troubles with running out of resources.10:11
scheurihi all10:11
mcrandelloXemanth: is it the live cd?10:11
[TSK] cvt|expert: I've got 768 megs of RAM and a 1.5 gig swap partition.  8)10:11
cvt|expertpIII 800mHz 128mB ram10:12
Xemanthmcrandello: yes unfortunately... i though desktop image meant like this intalls desktop version on kubuntu... but no... why it name can't be kubuntu-livecd-x86.iso like that10:12
cvt|expert1mB vid card10:12
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Hobbseegioacchino: packages.ubuntu.com10:13
[TSK] mcrandello: I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'big-desktop', but we did manage to get his ATI hardware running under Mandriva, but I'm sure I'll have to re-research that one detail under Kubuntu.  The rest were pretty generic fixes for various laptop related issues.10:13
Hobbsee[TSK] : i doubt that goes into swap very much :P10:13
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mcrandelloXemanth: If it's the latest (6.06) there should be an install icon right on the desktop right after starting up10:13
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gioacchinothanks10:14
mcrandello[TSK] : big desktop is like dual head but without running 2 separate desktop environments10:14
[TSK] Hobbsee: My experience has been that unless I'm pushing my system very VERY hard, I almost never actually use the swap partition.  It's mostly there 'just in case'...  8)10:14
Xemanthmcrandello: oh really10:14
sabaalHow safe it is to resize an NTFS partition with Kubuntu's text installer?10:14
Hobbsee[TSK] : hehe true10:14
Xemanthi didn't boot that long10:14
Hobbseesabaal: i've not had a problem with it10:14
Xemanth:|10:14
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sabaalHobbsee: No lost data? Still booted fine?10:15
mcrandelloXemanth: then again I had the gnome desktop one and then installed kubuntu-desktop package to get KDE back up and running10:15
[TSK] mcrandello: Ah...  Okay.  I'm not sure about that one.  I'd bet if it's possible then I can find the answer given enough time to dig around, but at this point in time I know not.  8)10:15
mcrandellothere seems to be an issue in ubuntu where half the screen becomes inaccessible after logging in10:16
Hobbseesabaal: yeah, defrag it first though.10:16
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mcrandelloit's the damndest thing too, the whole desktop works perfectly in the GDM login screen10:16
sabaalHobbsee: Wonderful. Thank you.10:16
MaggotHello10:16
mcrandelloat least it hasn't froze in the 2 or so hours I've been running it10:17
sabaalAnyone here have experience working Kubuntu on a tablet PC?10:17
valombrehello world ;)10:17
sabaalWell? World? You've just been greeted.10:18
[TSK] Greetings valombre10:18
Maggothello valombre10:18
sabaalI don't think world is here.10:18
MaggotJust the best part of it :)10:18
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nadithey10:22
sabaalWell, it is nearly 1:30 here. The bed beckons.10:23
sabaalGoodnight, everyone.10:23
[TSK] Rest well, sabaal10:23
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[TSK] Actually, it's nearly 2:30 here and I still need to go clear a bit more HD space to install Kubuntu before I go to sleep, so I guess I'ma have to leave now as well.  Y'all folks have a good evening (or morning, or afternoon, or whatever it is whereever you are...)  8)10:26
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spamfilterhi guys, what is the best way to set up a relay mail server, which receives incoming mail on port 25, checks it for spam and viruses, and then sends it on to an exchange server? any advice would be tremendously appreciated.10:37
wordwhy is my refresh rate at 70 hz...(fairly sure my monitor doesnt support that high!) ?10:37
wordAnd I can't change it it's the only option10:38
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mcrandelloword: change it where, what window you in?10:40
wordmcrandello: System settings -> display10:41
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mcrandelloI think that's a frontend for xrandr and xrandr seems to be pretty buggy to me10:42
Kingbuzzohmmm, kubuntu doesn't seem to like gcc10:42
Kingbuzzoerror: C compiler cannot create executables10:42
mcrandelloword: the other option is to check out the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file10:42
mcrandelloI'm actually having some problems with xrandr myself10:43
wordmcrandello: Yah, no where do i see the refresh rate over 7010:43
MistaEDcan gdm use xrandr at all?10:44
wordvert refresh = 43-60 and horiz sync = 28-51...although 70 may be correct i'm having some view problems..10:44
mcrandellomine says 85, and doesn't mention a thing about the second monitor :(10:44
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wordhow do i change the refresh rate another way?10:45
mcrandelloword: there should be some settings already in the xorg.conf file, you can *carefully* edit them there if they are already listed but wrong10:46
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wordIn the xorg.conf file they're correct but apparently  not according to system settings > display10:46
mcrandellois there any way to tell xrandr that no I dont have 4 monitors and I only need 2048x768, not 4096 wide?10:46
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mcrandelloword: in that case I'd just hit cancel, and never revisit that particular control panel :)10:47
mcrandellowhat's going on with the display anyway?10:48
wordpanel is flickering10:48
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wordbut the level of flickering depends on if a window is full width along the bottom...and how white the background of that window is10:48
mcrandellowhat video card are you using?10:49
wordGeForce 680010:49
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negociohow i make a direct access on my desktop to ./xdosemu ?10:53
mcrandelloword: at the moment I'm drawing blanks, one thing you can do is try to comment out the "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" lines, and let X try to detect them at startup10:54
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negociohi mens10:55
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wordOk, i'll try that out on next reboot thanks mcrandello10:55
mcrandelloword: take note, if X doesn't start back up, log into the console, then type "sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change whatever you did back10:55
negocioi need to make a link direct on my desktop to ./xdosemu10:55
negociohow i make?10:55
negocioplease help me10:56
wordmcrandello: nano sounds cooler ;p10:56
mcrandellobetter yet "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" first :)10:56
wordhehe10:56
mcrandello(they left the pico link in for us old fatbeards)10:56
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negocioi run from the terminal ./xdosemu10:57
mcrandellonegocio: what dir is it in10:57
negociohow i make a link in my desktop?10:57
negociohome/negocio/mydos/dosemu10:57
mcrandellonegocio: alright right click and then "Create New"10:58
mcrandellothen "L:ink to application10:58
negocioyes10:58
mcrandelloon the general tab type dosemu10:58
negociook10:58
mcrandelloon the application tab where it says "command"  put in /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu10:59
negociothen10:59
mcrandellofill in a description, comment etc, the work path should be /home/negocio/mydos I suppose10:59
mcrandellogo back to general give it a snazzy icon then hit ok and try it out10:59
negociook11:00
negociobut is xdosemu11:00
negocionot dosmeu11:00
negocioits the same?11:00
mcrandellooh wait11:00
mcrandellowhat I dold you for command is the workpath, /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu/xdosemu is the command11:01
negocioyes11:01
mcrandelloif it closes right out for the command try "xterm -e /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu/xdosemu"11:02
negociook11:03
negociothats work11:03
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negociothanks11:03
mcrandellonp :)11:03
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noaXesshi all11:07
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Hobbseehi noaXess11:08
noaXesswhat is the default iocharset if i mount an smbfs as: mount -t cifs ..? utf8?11:08
noaXesshi Hobbsee, nice to "see" you :)11:08
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Hobbseetry man mount or similar11:08
noaXessHobbsee, in the man mount.cifs is something like nls_default..11:09
noaXessIf  iocharset is not specified then the nls_default specified during the local client kernel build will be used.11:10
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Hobbseeright11:10
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noaXesshow to find out, what the default iocharset is running in my kernel?11:10
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noaXessthe problem is as follows.. i rsync some data to my external, mounted smb server... if in the file- or foldername is an  rsync shows an ? instead eg. the  ...11:11
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noaXessof if there is an _ (underline, underscore) in the filename, like XYZ_TEST_.gif -> XYZ_TEST?.gif11:13
noaXessbut only infront of the dotgif11:14
aeon17xktorrent isn't so bad11:14
noaXesswhere can i see the default iocharset in my running kernel?11:16
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KabalDoes anyone know if Kubuntu 6.06 can support Intel Core Duo 2?11:21
scheuriKabal: do you mean VT? both cores?...actually,it should work without any troubles11:22
noaXessscheuri, Kabal needs to install smp kernel, for supporting core duo, right?11:24
scheurinoaXess: well, yes...but I thought that 2.6.x is already smp enabled in ubuntu...or am I wrong?11:24
scheurinoaXess: sorry...you are right...my bad11:25
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noaXessscheuri: hm.. i don't know exatly.. on fresh install on a smp enabled cpu, i think kubuntu/ubuntu will use smp kernel..11:25
noaXessscheuri: there is an smp and a nonsmp kernel..11:26
scheurinoaXess: No, it would very likely use the i386-kernel...smp needs to be installed later on11:26
noaXessor not?.. Hobbsee whats about you?11:26
noaXessscheuri, yeah11:26
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Hobbseehehe11:27
scheuriKabal: you need to install a smp-kernel after installing...so both cores will be used11:27
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scheuriHobbsee: ah, okay...;)11:27
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Hobbseehmmm?  noaXess ?11:28
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noaXesswhy not :] 11:29
Hobbseewhy am i a crack?11:29
KabalOke so if I install 6.06 then later I can update to a SMP kernel11:29
Kabal?11:29
scheuriKabal: correct11:29
noaXesssometime you have answers.. good answers..11:29
noaXessKabal: right...11:29
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KabalOr will the install detect my proc and install the SMP kernel right away?11:30
noaXessKabal, just do it over apt-get or your prefered package manager..11:30
noaXessKabal, if you make a fresh install, i think kubuntu will see your core duo and choose the right kernel..11:30
scheuriKabal: the command will be "sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-25-686-smp" or alike11:30
noaXesshe word, are you m$ word :) LOL11:30
KabalnoaXess: that would be great :)11:31
Kabalscheuri: thanx for the info will help alot :)11:31
scheuriKabal: noaXess ...I really doubt that ubuntu recons the right kernel right away at install...11:31
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Kabalthen I will apt-get the kernel :)11:32
noaXessKabal, i remember... trust the developer :) kubuntu will do it for you, if not.. here is the place for questions11:32
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Kabalhahaha11:32
Kabal:))11:32
scheuriKabal: use aptitude...:)11:32
noaXess:P11:32
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KabalLOL11:32
KabalThanx guys :)11:32
noaXesshe "word" is gone.. he is searching for "words..." mg11:33
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orient2000How do I install j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin from a console?11:34
Kabalsudo ./ j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin ?11:34
scheuriorient2000: are you using ubuntu 6.06? and is there a need for that specific version? as far as I know, sun java can be installed with aptitude, synaptic, adept and the alike11:35
noaXessKabal, np11:35
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Kabalke :)11:35
noaXess!tell orient2000 about java11:35
noaXess!java11:36
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository11:36
noaXess!mp311:36
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats11:36
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noaXessorient2000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats11:36
cvt|expertorient2000, i just typed jre1 in synaptic11:37
cvt|expertand installed java from the list11:37
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Kabalbtw.. why is kicker so unstable when multiple desktops are used icw slide show wallpaper enabled?11:42
KabalThis is what I frequently get: http://www.euronet.nl/users/kabal/00/3.5.3.png11:42
KabalCan I do somthing here to improve stability?11:43
jpatrickNo11:44
jpatrickunless you sumbit a bug report with a backtrace11:44
Kabalyes.. I would like to do that.. but when I try the backtrace it says it's not avail..?11:46
jpatrickinstall gdb11:46
Kabaloke thanx I will do that11:47
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Kabalwell it'11:49
Kabals installed.. :)11:49
Kabalnext time I hope I can backtrace the error(s)11:49
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psb154I have put off using p2p all my computer career because I am worried about opening up a port to internet strangers. Anyone have bad experiences bittorrent or the like?12:09
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mauricehi, how can i manage it under kubuntu that my usb audio device is taken as default output as soon as it is plugged in?12:22
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mauriceit's shown in KMix, but i am not able to set it to default anywhere12:22
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orient2000I want to install java .bin package all info about installations is about .deb packages or the one from adept list. adept version is chocking update manager after updating java.12:27
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crazy_penguinhi all!12:30
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Delphinushey crazy_penguin12:34
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cvt|expertshe's addicted to the cock like crack12:49
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jpatrickcvt|expert: what....12:50
robsigh12:51
jpatrickrob: i'll gonna to pretend I didn't read and get back to a my guitar12:53
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cristianohello everybody. did anybody got installed vidalia and tor on dapper drake?12:57
cristiano!tor12:57
ubotuI know nothing about tor12:57
cristiano!vidalia12:57
ubotuI know nothing about vidalia12:57
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cristianoi installed both but tor seems having probs coz when it install it gives "debian-tor" as owner of the folder created so that i'm not able to run it even if i'm root12:58
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cristianoso no clues for me?12:59
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bomberohallo, kann mir jemand sagen wie ich Java auf Kubuntu instaliere, im Adapt ist Java grau ausgeblendet01:05
gioacchinobombero: are you italian ?01:05
bomberono spanish01:05
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gioacchinojo soi italiano01:06
bomberoi try to instal Java with adept01:06
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insanekanebombero: install it with apt-get01:06
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bomberoapt-get install java ?01:06
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insanekanesudo apt-get install java01:06
cristianociao gioacchino01:07
cristianose sei italiano non parlare spagnolo :D01:07
insanekaneit seems there is some kind of keyboard input to be given01:07
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gioacchinociao cristiano italiano anche tu ?01:07
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bomberocristiano: pero yo entiendo un poco italiano01:08
gioacchinobombero: jo entiendo un pco espagnolo01:08
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cristianobombero lol i understand spanish but i'm not able to speak it :)01:09
cristianogioacchino: si sono di Napoli tu?01:09
bomberogioacchino: (:-)01:10
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gioacchinoio sono siciliano01:17
gioacchinomistretta messina01:18
gioacchinocristiano:01:18
gioacchinobombero:  gioacchino = joachin01:18
cristianodai che  bella la sicilia!01:18
gioacchinosisi01:18
cvt|expertjpatrick, wrong window. sry01:18
gioacchinocmq vado a pranzo ciao01:18
jpatrickcvt|expert: :/ right.......01:19
cvt|expertsrsly01:19
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cristianogioacchino: ciao buon appetito01:21
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heinrichhi all01:25
heinrichis there a quicktime plugin for dapper drake?01:26
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K|NgGh0sTIs there not a live isntall cd?01:27
heinrich?01:27
cristianoK|NgGh0sT: what are u talking about?01:27
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K|NgGh0sTIs there not a netinstall I mean01:29
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K|NgGh0sTaha sorry tired just woke up01:29
heinrichapt -get install qicktime?01:29
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K|NgGh0sTyes, no mayber?01:31
cristianoheinrich: look at RestrictedFormats in the ubuntu wiki01:31
cristianoK|NgGh0sT: dunno sorry :(01:32
cristianoi think u've got to download the cd01:32
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heinrichok01:45
BKajGood Morning01:45
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om_everytime i restart X my screen resolution is on 640x480 and i have to change it manually01:45
om_how do i get it to keep it on 1600x1200??01:46
sir_binarymorning01:46
om_plus even though i have the box "restore previous session" it's not restoring it...01:47
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BKajom,  system settings/hardware display/admin mode/..find your monitor in the list and set it up for the right drivers..then set up your resolution01:48
om_thanks BKaj ill try it now01:48
BKajotherwise it will keep reverting to the default low res01:49
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om_BKaj: im not sure what to do.. it doesnt let me choose a monitor.. it just says "plug and play"01:50
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BKajhang on , om_01:51
BKajare you in admin mode ?01:52
om_yes01:52
om_it doesnt give me an option to change the hardware though..01:52
BKajclick on the hardware tab01:52
empiwhat about editing the x config file? shouldn't be that hard01:53
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BKajconfigure tab01:53
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om_ok got it BKaj, thanks! im going to try to restart X01:54
BKajcool, om01:54
empigood luck!01:54
BKajit should work01:55
heinrichwhat do you say about the soccer plays?01:57
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empiheinrich, you mean soccer _games_ , and I'm unfortunately forced to miss'em :(01:59
heinrichyes02:00
heinrichi wondered that spain lost02:00
heinrichshould i use multivere repository?02:00
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empiyeah. I live in Hannover, where the game was... should've seen all those disappointed Spanish guys02:00
om_still didn't work =( i had to manually change the res again02:01
heinrichheck they were young02:01
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om_even though the monitor and graphic cards are set correctly in the hardware tab02:01
heinrichthey could have played much better i am sure02:01
empiom_, that is strange02:01
empitry editing the x conf file?02:01
om_empi: where do i find it?02:02
empiI'm still on breezy, so for me it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:02
empidunno if it changed with dapper02:02
empibut what ever you do with the file, make a backup copy before02:03
om_ok thanks02:03
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BKajom, did you change the resolution slider ?02:04
om_BKaj: yeah02:04
BKajwhat did you set it02:05
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om_1600x120002:05
om_and it works... but when i restart x it goes back02:05
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om_actually it seems like every option that i change goes back.. it's very strange... like the page -> window thumbnails.. i set it to on, but when i restart X it turns off02:06
BKajbummer, dunno how to help in that case, sorry:(02:06
BKajmaybe one of the EXPERTS here will heed the call ! ...Helloooo !  :)02:07
om_thanks anyways =) ill keep messing around02:07
om_and googling02:07
BKajfunny it worked for me but I'didn't try such a hi rez02:08
empisince we're calling the experts right now, I'll shut up :)02:08
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BKajgot an old crt thatw orks ok at 1024 x 76802:09
BKajempi, maybe you're right about x-config02:09
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BKajI'm  still anoob in most ways with dapper02:10
empimaybe, maybe not02:10
om_it was actually working before... the problems just started happening recently02:10
empiyeah, as I said, I'm stoll on Breezy02:10
empistill02:10
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BKajyeah I was trying to set up chroot to run 32 bit stuff on this AMD64 ...it's like beating yer head against a wall sometimes  :)02:12
BKaji't's understandable why ppl give up on linux and return to windows , even tho we've been conditioned to despise it02:13
Jack12hi, when i use dappers simple backup config is it better to hav it on a separate partition? how much would that be in size?02:13
BKajwindoes that is02:13
om_im getting some updated drivers from ATI.. hopefully will help...02:13
om_yeah man... Adept crashes all the time... and Amarok keeps crashing X... i avoid those programs as much as i can02:14
BKajwhich ATI , om_02:14
BKaj?02:14
om_Radeon 950002:14
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_rince_everyone uses the operating systems he deserves ...02:14
BKajnice02:14
BKajhehe _rince_02:14
BKajlucky it isn't nVidia...nothing but probs on the forums with those cards02:15
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KuLoverHas anyone tried the new ATI drivers release?02:16
om_KuLover: im installing them now...02:16
KuLoverom_ Please, let me know how they work out and see this, http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=8&shownews=2057702:17
KuLoverom_ Looks promising02:17
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BKaj<----elcheapo ati xpress200 onboard so the std driver on dapper works02:17
om_KuLover: will do02:17
KuLoverom_ Thanks much! :)02:17
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BKajoops, I think I'll leave those alone...it ain't broke so far :)02:18
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om_i am stuck here: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:22
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Hobbseeom_: check packages.ubuntu.com for which package has that file, and install it02:22
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om_thanks Hobbsee02:23
Hobbseeom_: you confident on how to do that?02:23
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om_yeah i figured it out =)02:24
om_ok cool, got past that step =) now im supposed to restart x... brb02:24
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BKajom, fglrx is the std ati driver in dapper02:27
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BKajoops02:28
Jack12where in dapper can i check if my bluetooth is supported?i mean where are the bluetooth things?02:31
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om_wow i am super mad at kubuntu right now02:32
jpatrickom_: why?02:32
om_because everytime i restart X my screen resolution goes down to 640x48002:32
om_and i have to manually change it every single time02:32
Jack12om_ on dapper or on breezy?02:33
om_dapper02:33
Jack12om_ if u specify just one resolution in the reconfigue xserver-xorg, how is that thn?02:34
om_and then there's this bug that after i changed my resolution, when i right click the menu appears where it would be if my res was still 640x48002:34
om_Jack12: how do i do that?02:34
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imbrandonom_ from a command prompt type " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " once thats done restart x and it should keep it02:35
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Jack12om_ do the sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg then at the resolutions tick just the the box u want (i think with space)02:35
om_thanks!!! i really hope this works02:35
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om_great reconfigure-xserver-xorg crashed02:38
Emessso it manually02:38
om_how?02:38
Jack12om_what did it say???02:38
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om_konsole quit and i got "sorry konsole caused an error and needed to close" or something like that.. then a tab with 'backtrace' that gave me an error when i clicked on it02:39
Jack12where in the kmenu is bluetooth stored?02:39
Emessgo to the system settings and it should be in connectivity02:39
Jack12sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg try that in failsafe maybe02:39
Jack12in system sessions om_02:40
Jack12thx Emess02:40
Emessom_: you want to go to the X settings in a terminal or edit teh config manually, but i cant remmebr where it is so you'll need to google02:40
om_ok i ran it again and this time it worked... i set only one resoultion.. restarting02:40
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CPU_Wizardhello!02:41
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CPU_Wizardhow can i install the C/C++ dev environment?02:41
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burepewhat is the mount location for a samba network. I want to access a file throught a program's dialog but I don't know where to look.02:41
Emessfind it in Adept02:41
Jack12Emess thank u how can i check now if my kubuntu understand my bluetooth hardware? i mean if it works?02:41
Emessgot a bluetooth device to test it with?02:42
Jack12Emess yes a mobile02:42
Jack12Emess ok that way i do thx02:42
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Emessso in your bluetooth menu, search for devices and see if it finds it, amke sure your phone has bluetooth set to discover02:42
CPU_Wizardand what's the name of the package?02:43
CPU_Wizardkdevelop?02:43
Emessno idea, search for C++ dev?02:43
CPU_Wizardfound it, it's kdevelop02:44
CPU_Wizardthank you for your help :-)02:45
Emessnp02:46
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om_ok that's it.. i must format02:47
om_maybe ill try gnome next02:47
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Emessewww no02:48
om_kde is nothing but bugs!02:48
empinoooooo02:48
Jack12Emess its stupid but there is no search for..thing, is it add a new job ?02:48
Emessbtw everyone who had wireless problems, there IS a kde network manager, in adpet its called knetworkmanager02:48
Jack12om_ did it work?02:49
Emessim not actually sure, it should have something like conenct or browse02:49
om_NO!!!! i chose only one resoultion for the monitor i have, so now it changed my monitor to "custome" wtf?!?!?02:49
om_so now i'm on 640x480 again02:50
om_plus all my settings dont seem to be saved02:50
Emessthats because X is stupid02:50
om_like the page options, it keeps disabling 'windows thumbnails' every time X restarts02:50
om_and i dont thinks its saving any sessions, cause it keeps starting the programs i closed last time... even though the 'save  sessions' is checked02:51
DeadS0ulI hope brazil totally smash france this year02:51
om_err 'restore previous session' i mean02:51
om_brazil rocks!!02:52
om_any last ideas before i give up and uninstall??02:52
DeadS0ulyeah no shit02:52
Emessom_: get Slakcware02:52
Emessor DesktopBSD :P02:52
DeadS0ulkubuntu is better than slackware anyday02:53
v3ctordepends on how yo define better02:53
DeadS0ulthat's a tough one02:53
DeadS0ul..anyway, I hope brazil wipe the floor with france >|02:53
om_LOL now Adept disappeared and won't start.... wow kde has some serious issues to work out02:54
v3ctorthe one thing i lost switchig fro slackware to kubuntu is performance02:54
v3ctor*ubuntu is dog slow comapred to slackware02:54
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v3ctorbut i like kubuntu enough to eat that loss02:55
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Emessi switched from Slack to Vector02:55
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Emessand then to Kubuntu02:55
Emessbut i think il go back to Slack02:55
Tommy2k4how come if i boot up with lan cable unplugged, plugging it in still wont make kubuntu pick up my internet02:55
Tommy2k4i had to reboot to get it on02:55
Tommy2k4is there a command i could type to get it on02:55
EmessTommy: msot distros are liekt hat because tehy dont pick up the eth connection02:55
Emessnothing will fix it, its teh way linux works02:56
om__holy hell everything on my monitor is double now02:56
om__i can barely read02:56
Tommy2k4no command to enable the eth?02:56
om__slackware... sounds good =)02:56
empisure as hell02:56
empiif-up eth002:56
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eliegood morning guys03:00
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elieany1 here?03:00
Tommy2k4hi03:01
empi<- here03:01
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DeadS0ul=D03:01
zorglu1Tommy2k4: so any freeze since last time ?03:01
RaitoWhere is the character map in KDE?03:01
Tommy2k4not since i switched to 16bit / 1024x768 :D03:02
eliewhen i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)03:02
Tommy2k4it makes my eyes bleed but oh well03:02
zorglu1Tommy2k4: ok :)03:02
Jack12guys i got a problem: i need to delete /tmp because its full and unwritable to so that i cannot login...deleting via failsafe and recovery and consolelogin didnt work, neither live-cd; there is a fedora core 4 on the computer i could use too...but i forgot login and password...could i change that from console so i could use fedora to destroy that /tmp folder?03:02
Tommy2k4do you think if i tried 1280x1024 on 16bit it would crash03:02
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zorglu1Jack12: well delete the content of /tmp not the directory itself03:02
eliewhen i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)03:02
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zorglu1Jack12: boot in failsafe, become root, and do "rm -rf /tmp" . this will clean up the /tmp03:03
DeadS0ulJack12: and to reset the root password, boot fromt he live cd and remove the 'x' in teh for root in the /etc/passwd file, that'll reset teh password to NULL03:03
elieAny1? when i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)03:04
zorglu1Tommy2k4: the resolution is not supposed to make it crash03:04
Jack12zorglu1 doesntmatter, could mkdir the folder again...rm -rf /tmp: no use tried several times, but i will try your secon attempt, thanks03:04
empielie, no idea, sorry--- which version are you using?03:04
eliethe latest dapper 6.0603:04
Tommy2k4so the problem was 24bit03:04
empihm, sorry, no idea03:05
zorglu1Jack12: man this would work :)03:05
zorglu1Jack12: so here 2 possibilities: either you did it wrong or you are not reporting the whole info03:05
zorglu1Jack12: try to collect the maximum informations you can03:05
eliek,any1 know what is the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?03:05
zorglu1Jack12: what you did and the produced display03:06
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DeadS0ulelie: yeah, remove the windows partition and any windows boxen from your netowrk03:06
Jack12zorglu1 i think it happened when i copied large data ..and the computer shut itself down at some point for no reason03:06
v3ctorelie: clamav03:07
zorglu1Jack12: maybe the disk is full i dunno, you have to collect more data and report them here accuratly03:07
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zorglu1Jack12: rm -rf /tmp/* do work :) believe me :)03:07
eliethnx03:07
Jack12zorglu1 df shows me some 100% usage and when i tried to login the first times it said /tmp is not writable, so x cannot start03:07
zorglu1Jack12: to have a full disk should not prevent you from loggin in as 'failsafe'03:08
zorglu1or there is a big bug in failsafe :)03:08
Jack12zorglu1 shall i do that from recovery mode?03:08
Jack12zorglu1 no failsafe doesnt work03:09
zorglu1Jack12: yep, failsafe/recoverymode/single mode i dunno what is the name :)03:09
RaitoWhere is the character map in KDE?03:09
zorglu1you boot as single user :)03:09
zorglu1Raito: i dunno. #kde may have more info on this03:09
Jack12zorglu1 recovery u choose at boot and it works, failsafe is kind of session without x , choosing at login and here it doesnt start, except via keys03:10
zorglu1Jack12: ah ok , so it is 'recovery'03:10
zorglu1Jack12: it will not produce a graphical stuff03:11
eliev3tor: i cant d/n it as it say site down03:11
Jack12zorglu1 ya mom i tell u03:11
abattoirRaito: kcharselect is the application, you need to install it if you already dont have it03:11
Raitoabattoir, thanks03:12
zorglu1Jack12: ?03:12
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eliewhere can i get the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?03:12
Jack12zorglu1 shall i do as root via sudo -i?03:12
zorglu1Jack12: you should be root directly03:12
furgu<Jack12>: You are still here?03:12
zorglu1Jack12: without any password. to check with a ubuntu user :)03:12
furguJack12, Reboot into single-user mode03:12
Jack12hi furgu...no again....03:12
eliewhere can i get the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?03:13
BKajok, what's wrong here ?  missing destination file operand after `./streamtuner_0.99.99-5ubuntu6_amd64.deb03:13
zorglu1furgu: when ubuntu boot as single-user does it ask for a password ?03:13
furguavclam elie03:13
furguno zorglu103:13
Raitoabattoir: for some reason half the characters are squares, and where would I find hiragana and katakana among them?03:13
Jack12zorglu1 rebooting mom03:14
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exceswaterhi all03:14
exceswater:D03:14
furguelie, clamav rather03:14
Jack12furgu where do i get the single user mode?03:14
furguJack12, are you using Grub or Lilo?03:14
abattoirRaito: table 4803:14
Jack12furgu grub03:14
BKajhey exceswater03:14
Jack12grub 0.9503:15
furguJack12, when you reboot you should see something like "Press ESC for a menu"03:15
furguJack12, Press ESC then03:15
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elieit say:03:16
elieWe're Sorry.03:16
elieThe SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance.03:16
Raitothanks abattoir, the character map is nice, but I should have asked what japanese IME's are there for Linux03:16
furguelie, install from Synaptic or KPackage or something03:16
eliek thnx03:16
furgummmmmmmm coffee03:16
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omeowRaito: I think you're after scim.03:17
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exceswaterhey BKaj03:17
exceswater:D03:17
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eliealso what is the best antispyware03:18
Jack12furgu is that before grub appears? i could just f2 or f12 choose...i rebooted no to the recovery mode03:18
furguBKaj did you ever get GoogleEarth working?03:18
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furguJack12 it is after you bios comes up, right before you boot into the Kernel03:18
furguJack12 You have to watch closely03:18
abattoirRaito: like omeow said, scim, checkout skim for a KDE frontend http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=1459703:18
eliefurgu now it say:03:19
elieE: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 103:19
elieE: clamav-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:19
elieE: clamav-milter: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured03:19
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abattoirRaito: i think it'd be in the official repos though03:19
furguwhat version of ubuntu are you running elie?03:19
Jack12hi elie03:19
Raitoabbatoir, thanks so much. I'm going to Japan soon and I don't want to have to use windows for all my office needs03:19
VonGeistis there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?03:19
eliehi03:19
eliedapper 6.0603:19
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furguelie, did you upgrade or install fresh?03:20
eliefresh03:20
abattoirRaito: np :)03:20
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_Myst_hi?03:21
GullyFoylecan i create a ~/.Xdefaults file just for aterm specific settings?03:21
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Jack12zorglu1 i did what u said but the df output is still the same03:21
furguWhich program are you using Elie?03:21
_Myst_someone could tell me how to mount an ext3 partition with rw access?03:21
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om_im trying to decide between installing debian or slackware.. im not sure what to choose03:21
zorglu1Jack12: so the issue is not the /tmp usage03:21
_Myst_i think i am doing it wrong03:21
zorglu1Jack12: you have the box running as single user now ?03:21
furguzorglu1 : it is03:21
eliesynaptic package manager03:21
elie.003:21
VonGeistOm: I think most people here would suggest Kubuntu.....03:21
furguzorglu1: tell him to do a 'du -ks /tmp'03:22
furguzorlgu1: I was helping him with this yesterday, its hopeless03:22
zorglu1furgu: well 'rm -rf /tmp/*' will wipe it out :)03:22
om_VonGeist: yeah well kubuntu seems ultra buggy03:22
furguzorglu1: Yeah?  Double check03:22
Jack12zorglu1 how? i cannot switch to it via escape at the booting..sry03:22
zorglu1furgu: i think it is an inaccurate report of the info03:22
GullyFoylekubuntu or mepis: all the joy and goodness of debian but fresher03:22
zorglu1Jack12: ok03:22
Raitoabbatoir: Scim and skim are apparantly already the latest version O_O How do I set it up?03:22
furguzorglu1, so its a bug in du?  .... sure03:23
zorglu1Jack12: are you on this box now ?03:23
zorglu1furgu: or in human inaccuratly doing or reporting :)03:23
_Myst_hi!!03:23
furguzorglu1, I think UE is part of it...03:23
zorglu1furgu: UE=?03:23
furguUser Error03:23
zorglu1ah ok :)03:23
Jack12i am in the console session failsafe without x zorglu103:24
BKajhow does one install a .deb pkg in dapper ?03:24
zorglu1Jack12: and you use irc thru it ?03:24
furguJack12, type rm -rf /tmp/*03:24
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furguzorglu1: his is on a notebook too03:24
furgueh... time for coffee03:24
Emessfurgu...03:24
VonGeistbkaj:sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb03:24
furguelie sorry be back in a minute03:24
Emesswait i didnt see teh 'tmp'03:24
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furguEmess.... wha?03:25
Emessi thought you said to 'rm -rf /'03:25
Emesslol03:25
BKajok thx VonGeist, I'll try it03:25
eliek03:25
chxi have a character on my clipboard and I would like to know it's hex code03:25
chxhow could I do that?03:25
_Myst_someone could tell me how to mount an ext3 partition with rw access? i think i am doing it  in the wrong way..03:25
abattoirRaito: there should be a Kcontrol module, i.e. an entry in KDE Control centre for skim03:25
VonGeistis there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?03:25
chxit's some bastard unicode which i can't display03:25
Jack12zorglu1 no from somwhereelse ; furgu i did but there is no reaction....and no error message03:25
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zorglu1Jack12: so you can type 'live' what i ask you to ?03:26
CPU_Wizardhi again03:26
Raitoabattoir: I'll try and mess around with the settings and come back if I have trouble03:26
zorglu1Jack12: without rebooting etc.. ?03:26
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abattoirRaito: i guess 'skim' is an executable... i'm sorry i havent personally used it myself03:26
CPU_Wizardi downloaded phpBB and i want to run it... How can i do that?03:26
abattoirRaito: i'll help you as much as i can :)03:26
CPU_Wizardwhere should i copy the php files?03:27
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Jack12zorglu1 i can yes...??03:27
Emesscopy to your htdocs file ont eh webserver03:27
Raitoabattoir: I have no idea how to do it >_>03:27
empiCPU_Wizard, use apt-get to install it and have it done for you?03:28
Emessif its your username ont he box then put it into the /home/username/www/htdocs/ folder03:28
CPU_Wizardi'll try it right now!03:28
abattoirRaito: give me a second, let me install it03:28
furguJack12, there would be no reaction03:28
furguJack12, do a "du -ks /tmp" now03:29
_Myst_heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy03:29
_Myst_:P03:29
furguwasssssssssssup03:29
zorglu1Jack12: ok do 'ls -ld /tmp' and dump the first drwxrwxrwt  42 root root 20480 Jun 28 15:02 /tmp03:29
Raitoabattoir, I already had it installed, might have been for a dependancy of some other thing03:29
Kr4t05Does Linux have a util that will completely wipe a selected media?03:29
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zorglu1Jack12: all the drdw--wrd at the begining03:29
Emessfdisk?03:29
zorglu1Jack12: copy it here ACCURATLY03:29
Emessor do you mean jsut delete everything on it?03:29
RaitoKr4t05 maybe QTparted?03:29
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Jack12furgu it says 16    /tmp03:29
Kr4t05Emess, a full "zero-wipe"03:29
furguJack12, you are in recovery mode now?03:29
CPU_Wizardi created that folder. how can i run the scripts?03:30
furguJack12, do "cd /tmp; df -k ."03:30
EmessKr4t05: fdisk or to jsut delete files/folders 'rm -r /mnt/media'03:30
elieafter installing clamav where it should go?in the menu?03:30
furguelie, what do you need anti-virus for?03:30
Kr4t05Emess, I03:30
furguelie, did you get it installed?03:30
eliei dont want virus...03:30
insanekanehi ... anyone here who hasnt upgraded to 6.06 and who can spend a few minutes verifying something for me ? (maybe dapper flight-x or even breezy)03:30
furguelie, you are better off installing chkrootkit03:31
v3ctorif you don't wnt virus...don't run windows03:31
furguelie, anti-virus is mostly for scanning mail if you are running a mail server type of thing03:31
elieu mean therz no virus with linux?03:31
furguelie, linux... not many viruses, better to run chkrootkit03:31
rabbyon kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp catalog - good, but if this catalog have everyone catalog - to me request autorythation query. please say, what i can configure on konqueror03:31
Jack12zorglu1  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun 28 15:20 /tmp03:31
furgu'doh03:31
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Kr4t05Emess, I have an RCA Lyra mp3 player. When I look at it in Konqueror, it's empty. But, when I open the Properties window on it, it reports as only having 170MB out of 256MB03:31
gerardWow, just received my chipit cd's03:31
gerard^_^03:31
elieand a firewall i had 1 with fedoracore is there 1 with ubuntu?03:31
v3ctorelie: there are some...but you have to install them for them to work ;)03:32
gerardAnyone here know how to install an extra language?03:32
furguJack12: do "chmod a+w /tmp"03:32
Jack12furgu ia m in recovery mode03:32
Mezelie, virii on linux exist, but well... they're less... prevelant than in Windows03:32
Jack12furgu u need the df k output first?03:32
CPU_Wizardi installed phpbb, how can i run it?03:32
rabbyon kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp catalog - good, but if this catalog have everyone catalog - to me request autorythation query. please say, what i can configure on konqueror03:32
Mezelie - I'd suggest using a graphical frontend for clamav - I suggest klamav (as it's the only one I know)03:32
Jack12furgu i did the chmod thing..now?03:33
MezCPU_Wizard, is there a package for that now ?03:33
furguJack12 yes03:33
furguJack12, do the df thing and tell me %03:33
zorglu1Jack12: do the ls -ld /tmp again to check it works03:33
empiCPU_Wizard, you need to run it in  apache I guess03:33
EmessCPU_Wizard: put it on your webserver, then go to the docs folder and read it03:34
Emessotherwise you cna sjut go to the setup.php folder i thnk it is and install it that way03:34
furguJack12: and go "chmod a+t /tmp"03:34
Kr4t05When I try to use amaroK to copy music to my mp3 player, I get this: "Failed to copy track to media device: /mnt/music/Music/My Chemical Romance/Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge/05 I'm Not Okay (I Promise).mp3"03:34
CPU_Wizardi see i have apache installed... where is that folder to put the files in?03:34
gerardCan anyone here help me install an extra language?03:34
gerardIts piss easy with SUSE03:34
Kr4t05CPU_Wizard, /var/www03:35
Jack12furgu availability and usage hasnt change when i do the df -k03:35
furguJack12: still 100%03:35
furgu?03:35
CPU_Wizardok! found it!03:35
furguJack12: and do "chmod a+t /tmp"03:35
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empiKr4t05, sure your device is under mnt and not media?03:35
furgugerard, have you tried system settings?03:35
empipoor gerard :)03:35
Kr4t05empi, yes.03:35
rabbyon kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp folder - good, but if this folder have everyone folder - to me request autorythation query and. please say, what i can configure on konqueror03:36
gerardah03:36
empiKr4t05, then I don't now sorry03:36
furgu'Doh03:36
furgugerard... the first place to look03:36
Kr4t05Waii...03:36
Kr4t05wait*03:36
Raitogerard, I have the same problem, skim is the kde IME03:36
empirobby, try  ftp://yourusername@url03:36
gerardRaito: but it works flawless on kde on suse03:37
gerardfurgu: I only have english as an option when I click on add language03:37
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Kr4t05empi: "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)03:37
Kr4t05"03:37
furgugerard: what language are you trying to use?03:37
gerardfurgu: Japanese03:38
empisee, it's not /mnt but /media03:38
empiKr4t05, see, it's not /mnt but /media03:38
Kr4t05empi: It does that automatically when it mounts it.03:38
gerardfurgu: skim is preinstalled but it needs a language to choose and by default the installer only installed us and uk english03:38
furgugerard: Use KPackage or some package manager to install language-pack-ja...03:38
Jack12zorglu1 the ls -ld output has changed to drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 jun 28 15:20 /tmp, df -k furglu did not change03:38
gerardfurgu: on the SUSE installer it asks me what languages I want at the start03:38
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furgugerard: Just search for Japanese03:38
gerardfurgu: did that, no joy03:39
ZomMeshello!03:39
empiI know. I guess the problem is that amarok expects a different location, since its trying /mnt/music ... or is that the source?03:39
gerardfurgu: there are dozens of japanese packages03:39
furgugerard: You did language-pack-kde-ja too?03:39
furgugerard are you using KDE?03:39
Kr4t05empi, that's the source03:39
gerardfurgu: of course03:39
furgunever know03:39
gerardfurgu: otherwise I would hang in ubuntu :P03:39
ZomMeswhat is the best way to get good sound output with kubuntu?03:39
ZomMes'cause it sucks right now03:40
empiKr4t05, sorry, then I don't lnow03:40
empi*know03:40
Kr4t05ubotu tell ZomMes about sound issues03:40
elieafter installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?03:40
rabby<empi> : anonymous, later i download any folder, but on 6.06 in konqueror configure download no 1 stream, and for my IP on this local ftp only 2 stream03:40
furgugerard: I see 5 ja language packages, you installed them all?03:40
furguJack12, make sure you do  "chmod a+t /tmp" too03:41
furguJack12, is your disk usage still 100%?03:41
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Jack12furgu i did and now03:41
elieafter installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?03:41
abattoirRaito: i think you need to install scim-tables-ja too03:42
furguJack12, I think you still have too much shit on your disk, go into your home and see if there are any big files you can delete03:42
ZomMesdo i need certain drivers or something?03:42
zorglu1furgu: Jack12: my guess is the /tmp is not the culprit, the disk is full but the data are elsewhere. wild guessing again, the 'trash' may contain a lot of stuff :)03:42
Raitoabattoir: Alright, installing03:42
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elieany1? after installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?03:42
insanekanehey pradeepto03:43
furguelie did you look in all the menus?03:43
Jack12furgu my home is 67% full, so thats not the prob  you may be right03:43
insanekanepradeepto: you running breezy or any dapper flight ?03:43
furguelie I can assure you it wont find anything03:43
furguJack12 then its not03:43
pradeeptohey insanekane03:43
Jack12zorglu1 right but what do i do now?03:43
gerardfurgu: trying now, to be honest I had not tried yet with dapper03:43
furguJack12, the /tmp part is still 100% tho?03:43
pradeeptoinsanekane: Dapper LTS03:43
gerardfurgu: I tried with the previous, gave up after a solid 2 days of messing about and switched to suse which I have been using for several months03:44
insanekanedote03:44
rabbyempi: if folder on ftp has subfolder - i can't down03:44
furgusorry gerard... you should try 6.06 now?  I have no idea if will work or not03:44
om_help! Adept is no longer in the application list.. how do i run it?03:44
gerardfurgu: but with the shipit cd arriving on my doorstep this morning I thought I would give my fav distro another go03:44
VonGeistis there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?03:44
Kr4t05su?03:44
gerardfurgu: It's installing now so fingers crossed03:44
Jack12furgu its partition is 67% , but my root is 100% full; but the error message came from the /tmp which is on hda6 (the same as the home part is on) the one with the 67%03:44
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VonGeistkr4t05: I thought that was just for the command prompt also03:45
zorglu1Jack12: the root at 100% is not good :)03:45
gerardfurgu: will be nice to come home to Kubuntu as my bloody wifi driver refuses top work under SUSE03:45
abattoirRaito: i found this http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/03:45
HawkwindJack12: Did you look in /var/log to make sure your logs haven't eaten up space ?03:45
empirabby, works here... maybe permissions of subfolders are wrong?03:45
zorglu1Jack12: find where you put all the extra stuff and remove the ones you dont need03:45
Raitoabattoir! YES!03:45
HawkwindJack12: That's usually one of the first things to happen actually03:45
Kr4t05VonGeist: alt+F2 -> kdesu Konqueror03:45
furguJack12, do "cd /var/cache/apt; df -k ." and tell me what % is03:45
Jack12zorglu1 Hawkwind var is separate part, it has only 8% here as i see from the df output03:46
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abattoirRaito: works?03:46
furgugerard: try ndiswrapper, what wifi card do you have?03:46
gerardLucky for me I have an Intel mac so can mess about in virtual linux machines before unleasing it on my IBM thinkpad03:46
Jack12furgu mom03:46
Raitoabattoir: dunno, didn't try yet03:46
HawkwindJack12: Ah ok.03:46
furguJack12, whats up with the mom stuff?  Does that mean yes?03:46
rabbyempi: no, later on 5.10 this be good. I think its konqueror options. sorry for my english03:47
Hawkwindfurgu: Maybe he thinks you're his long lost mom or something :P03:47
empinp. :) sorry I'm stuck on 5.10 so I can't help you03:47
Raitoabattoir: I got to go soon, I won't have time to finish it, I'll just hope it works03:47
abattoirRaito: i think that's a bit Ubuntu, hence GNOME, specific03:47
furguI told him I would woop his ass if he didnt stop03:47
Hawkwindfurgu: LOL03:47
VonGeistthanks Kr4t05!03:48
Raitoabattoir: uh oh, >_> ah heck, I'll install ubuntu if it doesn't work, there is nothing on this comp and I installed yesterday03:48
abattoirRaito: ok, i think Ctrl+Space activates it.03:48
insanekaneRaito: it quite probably wont work in OOo03:48
Jack12furgu i say a moment need to check..its considered as being polite here ; i get /dev/HDA8 1829159   125922  1605644  8%  /var03:48
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insanekanein fact OOXIM03:49
furguJack12, try rebooting now and see if you get the same error message03:49
Raitoabattoir: Ctrl+Space activates what?03:49
root_hi,i have a i printer how do i install it?03:49
insanekaneOOo needs XIM03:49
gerardfurgu: ok, have Japanese as an option now, lets see if SKIM wants to play with it03:49
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abattoirRaito: the input window03:50
root_hi,i have a i960 printer how do i install it?03:50
Raitoabattoir: doesn't work for me03:50
Jack12where is the kdewallet stored? in the kmenu?03:50
furguroot_, is the printer plugged in?03:50
root_yup03:50
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furguroot_, did you try System Settings?03:51
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root_where/03:51
furguStart -> System Settings03:52
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furguroot_, the main menu?03:52
furguroot_, are you using KDE?03:52
Raitoabattoir: I think I get it, I can specify hotkeys03:52
root_ubuntu03:52
furguroot_, go to #ubuntu03:52
root_dapper 6.0603:52
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furguroot_, this is #ubuntu, not too sure in Gnome... sorry03:52
root_k thnx03:53
gerardfurgu: hmmmm, same problem, skim just wont activate03:53
Jack12furgu Xsession:warning:unable to write to /tmp; Xsession may exit with an error03:53
insanekaneRaito: do you have KEdit open ?03:53
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furgugerard, I don't use other languages... what is skim?03:53
gerardfurgu: on SUSE i press ctrl and space and I switch to Japanese input03:53
insanekaneskim is a frontend to scim03:53
furguJack12, I am sorry you are fuct, try reinstalling maybe?03:53
gerardfurgu: skim lets you input japanese03:54
Raitoinsanekane: no, what is it? if its a text editor I have Kate03:54
insanekaneRaito: ok, use Kate then03:54
gerardWhy is this so hard?03:54
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insanekaneRaito: or in fact any Qt text box03:54
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furgugerard, is skim installed?03:54
gerardof course03:54
furguhave to ask sorry03:55
HawkwindIs the scim daemon running ?03:55
insanekanegerard: do you have any input methods ?03:55
gerardAlways is on 6.0603:55
insanekanegerard: like scim-tables-ja ?03:55
insanekanegerard: anyway, you will need to restart your machine for it to work03:55
gerardinsanekane: nope, when I click on the skim icon in the bar I get an empty window03:55
Jack12furgu its not so bad as i told u i got the new siemens subnotebook its just sad cause there is music and photos on the old machine...if i could just save that with a live cd but i will try again doing that yesterday it didnt work03:55
Raitoinsanekane: I set keyboard shortcuts, alt-h for hiragana and alt-k for katakana but when I type alt-h or alt-k in kate nothing happens03:55
insanekanegerard, Raito: ok, open a Konsole ... type im-switch -s scim_xim03:56
furguJack12, did you back everything up?  Can you hook it up to the network and transfer things out?03:56
Hawkwindgerard: By default, the scim daemon is NOT set to run.  You have to either start it manually, or set it to run on startup/boot03:56
burepeI got a small problem. I got a tv tuner card and when I start my comp after plugin it in the comp won't start. The comp is getting power but the bios don't come up. Any suggestions?03:56
insanekanegerard, Raito: then restart X03:56
Raitoinsanekane: nothing happened, the next line just popped up, is that supposed to happen?03:56
furgugerard, skim is not installed by default for me03:57
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gerardHawkwind: I started it manualy03:57
Hawkwindgerard: Verify it's running, and doing so properly, ps aux | grep scim03:57
gerardinsanekane: I typed that in, and now?03:57
Jack12furgu what means at kanotix start acpi on offf dma on off what shoul id choose for saving my files?03:57
insanekanegerard: restart X03:57
Raitogerard: Did anything happen after or did it just go to the next line?03:57
furguJack12 set both ON I suppose03:58
gerardinsanekane: I did that03:58
Raitobah I'll just restart X and see03:58
GullyFoyleanybody use aterm? i created ~/.Xdefaults and put in some aterm-specific lines like aterm*scrollBar_right:true and such but it doesn't work03:58
insanekanegerard: ok great ... now open Kate, or Kedt03:58
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gerardinsanekane: done03:58
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insanekanegerard: after it starts, click in the text area, then click on the Skim icon in the system tray .. do you see any items ?03:59
Jack12furgu thx well i coul even transfer the data through usb, it just seems to be the case that many of them are locked or read only and i cannot copy them03:59
insanekanegerard: n fact, when you clck in the text area, the skim icon should change into a (supposedly) a keyboard icon03:59
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gerardinsanekane: nope03:59
furguJack12, how old is this computer you are tryng to fix?03:59
gerardinsanekane: I know, it does on SUSE but no, nothing03:59
furguJack12, are you using the new Knoppix CD you made yesterday?03:59
insanekanegerard: ah you know how to operate Skim ... great03:59
Raitoinsanekane: I restarted X but now skim won't start up04:00
HawkwindIt sounds like scim isn't running properly or wasn't started correctly04:00
insanekanegerard: ok ... setting up scim is kind of frsutrating on ubuntu ... but anyway here goes04:00
furguJack12, the files should not be locked04:00
insanekanegerard: run "locale"04:00
Jack12i am gonna throw away..its a f-siemens amilo with a fucking celeron processor, i am using an uptodate kanotix now04:00
insanekanegerard: and tell me your output04:00
furguJack12, it almost sounds like a bad hard drive04:01
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Raitoinsanekane: What do I do after I restart X? And how come I can't start up skim for some reason?04:01
furguJack12, if its 3+ years old that might be the case04:01
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insanekaneRaito: start skim from K->Utilites->Skim ... then right click system tray, then Frontend->X->startup on boot (or something similiar)04:02
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insanekanegerard: ?04:02
Jack12furgu definitely it is i am a too big kde fan to blame either of the linux guys..no its about 1,5 years. whats sad is i cannot access my bookmarks from the konqueror there an empty bookmarks file..04:02
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gerardsorry, I work in IT, get people asking me dumb shit :P04:02
insanekanegerard: mp04:02
gerardinsanekane: ah04:03
Raitoinsanekane: ever since I restarted X when you told me to type something in Konsole skim won't open from K>Utilities>Skim :/04:03
gerardinsanekane: no ja04:03
furguJack12, There are live CDs you can use to check if the HDD is in good shape or not04:03
insanekanegerard: that doesnt matter04:03
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furguJack12, can't think off the top of my head what they are right now tho04:03
gerardinsanekane: everything in there has GB in it04:03
insanekaneRaito: ok, start skim from the console and see why04:03
insanekanegerard: no problem04:03
insanekanegerard: ls /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession.d/90im-switch ... is that file there ?04:04
eliewhat was theubuntu channel?04:04
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Raitoinsanekane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1669504:04
HawkwindI get this line in /var/log/messages every 20 minutes exactly. Can someone tell me what it means and how to stop it from logging to /var/log/messages ??  Jun 28 07:02:36 localhost -- MARK --04:04
Hawkwindelie: #Ubuntu04:04
insanekanegerard: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90im-switch ... sorry :)04:04
eliethnx04:05
insanekaneRaito: checkng04:05
gerardinsanekane: yes04:05
furguHawkwind, it is just a mark, means nothing useful for seeing if you computer goes down when it happened04:05
insanekanegerard: ok, ...04:05
Hawkwindfurgu: Anyway to stop it from doing that or should I just ignore it ?04:06
gerardinsanekane: its an empty file by the looks of it04:06
insanekanegerard: now, ls /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default04:06
insanekanegerard: it shouldn't bve04:06
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Jack12furgu i had two users for me, on different partitions dont know why;04:06
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nooby_godI have Ubuntu installed and I want to get Kubuntu04:07
insanekaneRaito: what does 'ps ax | grep skim' say ?04:07
nooby_godwhat do I do?04:07
Hawkwindnooby_god: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will get you the KDE desktop04:07
insanekanegerard: are you sure it is empty ?04:07
Jack12furgu hda6 there is a homefolder and its locked, the other home on hda11 i can access04:07
Raito6377 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep skim04:07
nooby_godok Hawkwind, how do I remove the GNOME desktop?04:07
furguJack12, how is it locked?  I dont understand...04:07
Jack12furgu how could i unlock that home via livecd?04:07
insanekaneRaito: 'ps ax  | grep scim' ?04:07
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Hawkwindnooby_god: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop  possibly ?04:07
furguJack12, I dont know, dont know how it got locked in the first place?  How did you mount it?04:08
gerardinsanekane: I did vi and that file, nothing04:08
Hawkwindnooby_god: Why not keep them both incase you have a problem with one and need to get into a GUI ?04:08
nooby_godHawkwind: I have limmited disk space04:08
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Hawkwindnooby_god: Ah ok.  Good enough reason :)04:08
Hawkwindrraphink: Good morning04:08
gerardinsanekane: ls: /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default: No such file or directory04:08
Raitoinsanekane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1669604:08
rraphinkhi Hawkwind04:09
insanekanegerard: sorry to ask this ... but are you sure you are looking at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90im-switch ?04:09
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Jack12furgu /dev/hda6 /media/hda604:09
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furguwhere are you seeing that its locked Jack12?04:09
insanekaneRaito: ok, so you have the gnome panel ... that should show in the system tray ..04:09
gerardinsanekane: sorry, there are some thing in there04:10
insanekanegerard: ok, no problem04:10
eliewhen i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt04:10
Raitoinsanekane: What should show in the system tray? I don't see skim T_T04:10
gerardinsanekane: ah no, sorry, it is empty04:10
insanekanegerard: now, do 'ls /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/' and paste me the results in PM04:10
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insanekaneRaito: well, see, there is Skim (KDE version) and scim-panel (GNOME version) ... only one of those wll startup ... but thats OK ... you should see some extra systray icon04:11
insanekanepuckman: ok, you need to install im-switch04:12
elieany1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt04:12
Raitoinsanekane: But the only things on my system tray are the battery, kmix, konversation, klipper, and the KDE waller04:12
Raito*wallet04:12
furgu<Hawkwind>: you might be able to edit /etc/init.d/syslogd, do man syslogd for the correct flag04:12
Hawkwindfurgu: Ah ok.  Thanks for that info04:12
puckmanah, im-switch04:12
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Hawkwindfurgu: Wouldn't that be /etc/init.d/sysklogd  actually ?04:13
insanekaneRaito: ok ...04:13
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insanekaneRaito: ok, kdesu kwrite /etc/scim/global04:14
Raitoinsanekane: So what should I do :?04:14
Hawkwindfurgu: I ask because I don't seem to have an /etc/init.d/syslogd file04:14
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furguthats what I meant Hawkwind, sorry04:14
Hawkwindfurgu: Ok thanks04:15
insanekaneRaito: then, edit the "scim-panel-gtk" to read "scim-panel-kde" and the "simple" to "kconfig"04:15
Raitoinsanekane: ok04:15
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Raitoinsanekane: should I reboot? or restart X?04:16
insanekanewait04:16
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elieany1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt04:17
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svivian!rdesktop04:18
ubotuI know nothing about rdesktop04:18
insanekaneRaito: you need to check the file ~/.scim/global too04:18
ErtainI still can't seem to get my drawing tablet to register stylus movement and pressure correctly.04:18
svivianAnyone have tips on improving screen redraws with rdesktop?04:18
furgu!tttt04:19
ubotuI know nothing about tttt04:19
furgu!work04:19
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.04:19
furguHeh04:19
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elieany1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt,srry if iam annoying lol04:20
furgu!black04:20
ubotuI know nothing about black04:20
furgu!freeze04:20
Raitowhat do I change there insanekane?04:20
ubotuI know nothing about freeze04:20
furgu!log off04:20
ubotuI know nothing about log off04:20
furguelie is this new?04:20
furgu!any104:21
ubotuI know nothing about any104:21
furgu!annoying04:21
ubotuI know nothing about annoying04:21
elienop after installing ati fglrx with instruciton from ubuntu site04:21
insanekaneRaito: same as before ... scim-panel-kde and kconfig04:21
Raitoinsanekane: ok04:21
furguelie sorry probably ATI problem, they have bad drivers, I use the "other" guy04:21
jpatrick!abuse04:21
ubotuIf you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.04:21
furguelie yell and scream about ATI problems someone might help04:21
Raitoinsanekane: Now do I restart X?04:21
elielol04:22
insanekaneRaito: cd /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/04:22
svivianelie: the fglrx driver is not very stable at all. I actually wound up swapping out my FireGL for an Nvidia 550004:22
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svivianRaito: ctrl-alt-bkspc04:22
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elieis there an ati linux irc?04:23
Hawkwindelie: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually04:23
Hawkwindelie: Have you read that ?04:23
Raitoinsanekane: What do I do there?04:23
elienop will read it thnx04:23
insanekaneRaito: ls scim_xim04:23
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svivianelie: there is an ATI channel, but they weren't much help either04:23
Hawkwindelie: Also, here is a comment from someone last night in a channel of mine:  <-(  niki  )->   ah, i need to replace libGL.so.1.204:24
Hawkwindelie: niki had problems with ATI last night.  She followed that link I gave you and did something with libGL.so.1.204:24
Raitoscim_xim came up on the line under, a plain ls causes ja_JP, none, scim, scim-anthy, and scim_xim04:24
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insanekaneRaito: ok, do 'sudo cp ./scim_xim ./default'04:25
Raitocp: missing destination file operand after `./scim_xim./default'04:25
RaitoTry `cp --help' for more information.04:25
insanekaneRaito: there is a space in between ./scim_xim and ./default04:26
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elieits say: Unfortunately OpenGL seems to be broken for R200 cards (everything below Radeon 9500) in this driver version. This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with libGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8).04:26
Raitooh >_>04:26
eliei have a x800xl lol04:26
Raitoinsanekane: Now the next line just popped up04:26
insanekaneRaito: next line ?04:27
Raitoinsanekane: nothing just the user@comp:/etc/X11 blahblahblah$04:27
edneymatiaswhy my environment variable LANG is set to POSIX? After installing ubuntu it was pretty nice, setted to pt_BR.utf8, but it was changed after installing kubuntu-desktop. indeed the setting is right for the installation user, but it isn't for ldap user. How can i  correct this variable? Can some one help me?04:28
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desarrollo01#ubuntu-es04:29
furgu<edneymatias>: Set the variable in your .bashrc?04:29
furgu!es04:30
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.04:30
furgu!fr04:30
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:30
furgu!en04:30
ubotuI know nothing about en04:30
furgu'doh04:30
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edneymatiasfurgu: yeah..that's the only way to correct it? and what about the other ldap users? i have to set it for every user?04:30
jfrohm, so is there no Xorg for ubuntu/kubuntu that has evdev support?04:30
jfrothat's available in apt at least04:30
nooby_godif I want to remove Ubuntu, because I just installed kubuntu, do I remove ubuntu-desktop or 'Completely Remove' it?04:30
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apokryphosnooby_god: no, you'll have to remove some type of vital gnome lib, or something04:31
apokryphosnooby_god: i.e. sudo apt-get remove libgnome*04:32
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nooby_godbut ubuntu-desktop also has installed a bunch of other programs that I don't use04:33
MeMySelfhi, I think I got a problem with the Xorg process, as top shows it taking 7-10% cpu usage when doing nothing04:33
MeMySelfI think it should be like 0.2% or so04:33
jfrooh nm, think i found it04:33
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MeMySelfwhat do you think04:34
apokryphosnooby_god: removing libgnome will remove practically everything04:34
elie_HawKind: on the site they say:04:34
elie_If you suffer from slow 2D speed it might help to set04:34
elie_Option"XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"04:34
elie_in the fglrx section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:34
furguedneymatias: man bash says try /etc/bash.bashrc04:34
elie_and i cant find the fglrx sexion look at my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1669704:35
nooby_godapokryphos: I still need to use some GNome applications like GIMP, will removing libgnome affect that?04:35
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apokryphosnooby_god: yes, it'll remove it. I recommend reinstalling the ones you want after04:35
MeMySelfcould anybody tell me how much cpu does your xorg process take?04:36
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elie_HawKwind: on the site they say:04:36
gerardinsanekane:04:36
furgu<MeMySelf>: do you have special features like transparency/shadows or anything enabled?04:36
MeMySelfI mean when you aren't doing anything, not while moving windows or things like that04:36
elie_and i cant find the fglrx sexion look at my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1669704:36
gerardlol, ok, it crashed, so I restarted04:36
insanekanehello gerard04:36
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MeMySelfno that I know furgu04:36
gerardinsanekane: and now I have a serious problem04:36
furgusorry no idea then04:36
insanekanewhich is ?04:37
gerardinsanekane: my screen resolution is to big04:37
MeMySelfwell only the kde menu traslucency but not using the new extensions04:37
gerardinsanekane: I'm using vmware and I cant access the botttom of my screen to access any of the menus04:37
gerardlol04:37
gerardinsanekane: i can run command, anyone know what the command is for system settings?04:38
insanekanegerard: umm ...04:38
insanekanegerard: kcontrol04:38
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gerardinsanekane: I get "could not run specified command"04:39
edneymatiasfurgu, thank you, i'll try that! but i didn't figure out where is the difference between installation user and ldap users. Maybe i have to set up something in pam ldap...or the kubuntu installation broke something...'cause other ubuntu machines doesn't act like that even when ldap users log on.04:39
insanekanesudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:39
insanekanegerard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:39
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gerardinsanekane: nothing happens04:40
gerardi dont have a terminal btw, just the run box04:40
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MeMySelfcould anyone make a top and show me how much cpu their xorg process take please?04:40
insanekaneoh rght04:41
gerardgot it04:41
Hawkwindelie_: They mean in the 'Device' section where fglrx is defined04:41
insanekanegerard: why dont you run konsole then04:41
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gerarderm, trying to get my screen resolution down as its bigger than my monitor04:42
Wes#kubuntu-es04:42
apokryphosgerard: try changing your refresh rate04:43
MeMySelfanybody can help?04:43
johannes__guys how would i change in my screen resolution in system settings ? it seems that there is just one resolution for me..whould i need the reconfigure xorg thing again?04:43
apokryphosjohannes__: check the FAQ04:43
edneymatiasfurgu, and what about kdm, why does it set the right locale for installation user? there isn't any local configuration for that user, none i could find!04:43
MeMySelfcould anyone tell me how much cpu their xorg process take please?04:45
WesHola alguien que hable o escriba Espaol04:45
MeMySelfhola wes04:45
WesHola que tal04:45
MeMySelfque te cuentas04:46
Wesde donde eres?04:46
HawkwindMeMySelf: 31243 root      15   0 95856  63m 7696 S    0  6.3  36:29.24 Xorg04:46
MeMySelfde corua04:46
MeMySelftu04:46
WesCaracas04:46
MeMySelfok04:46
HawkwindWes: #Ubuntu-ES04:46
Wesun poco lejos verdad04:46
MeMySelfjeje04:46
MeMySelfpues si04:46
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bomberoWes: hola04:46
HawkwindErmmm #Kubuntu-ES actually04:46
WesHola bombero04:46
bomberocomo estas ?04:46
WesGracias Hawkwind04:47
bomberoy cual es tu problema ?04:47
MeMySelfeso04:47
MeMySelf:D04:47
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WesBien vale, pero aqui parece que no quieren ayudarme04:47
Wesme estan corriendo04:47
pussfellerdid dapper change the way storage devices are handled in some major way04:47
MeMySelfy ya que estamos, podrais hacer un top y decirme cuanta cpu chupa vuestro proceso xorg?04:47
pussfellercause they seem to hang and drag more04:47
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HawkwindGuys, please take the spanish talk to #Kubuntu-ES and NOT here04:48
MeMySelfporque el mo no baja de 7%04:48
johannes__apokryphos i did that reconfigure what they say there but in the system settings it doesnt change...hwo can i find out which resolution i am using actually right now?04:48
bomberoWes: avces hay que esperar un poco, hasta que aparece persona adequada04:48
bomberoWes: pero no creo que no quieren04:48
apokryphosjohannes__: right-click > configure desktop > display04:48
puckmaninsanekane: thanks for that, resolution back to normal04:48
Wesje, si vale04:48
insanekanepuckman: great04:49
puckmaninsanekane: now where where we?04:49
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Wesbue.... Esperare o bueno alli les va la pregunta...04:49
bomberoWes: ademas hay mas kanales de Ubuntu, creo que tambien uno #ubuntu-es04:49
bomberoWes: o algo asi04:49
MeMySelfyo ahora estoy en Kubuntu-ES04:49
MeMySelfvisto el xito que tuve aqui...04:50
WesOk MeMySelf04:50
puckmaninsanekane: damn, now skim dont want to start at all04:50
WesBueno me convencieron04:50
WesGracias04:50
WesHasta luego04:50
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edneymatiasno one can help me with my language problem?04:50
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WesPero la pregunta no caeria mal, verdad?.... Cual es la extension de los archivos de errores de Inicio04:53
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MeMySelfpues suelen estar el /var/log04:56
MeMySelfespera04:56
MeMySelfcreo que es concretamente el /var/log/messages04:57
bomberoWes: inicio de que ? busca en /var/log  o prueba dmesg04:57
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MeMySelfpara errores en Xorg es otro04:57
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bomberoWes: o te entendi mal ?04:57
MeMySelfes /var/log/Xorg.log o algo as04:57
WesNo bueno creo que no me supe explicar04:58
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apokryphosWes, MeMySelf, bombero: English ONLY in here please.04:58
apokryphosI'm sure you know where the Spanish channels are04:59
MeMySelfyeah were there's nobody joined in04:59
MeMySelfsorry I meant where04:59
BKajI've been to kubuntu.org and the "libtag" pkg sites but can't find one, anyone have a source URL for " libtag_c.so.0 " ?04:59
apokryphosMeMySelf: doesn't make a difference, I'm afraid; you will have to continue your discussions in there.05:00
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BKajapokryphos: yer all over these linux distrus, aren't ya  :)05:00
apokryphosBKaj: it's in the libtagc0 package05:00
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17Can someone tell me if Automatix Is any good?05:01
apokryphosLiNuX_LoVeR_17: automatix is bad05:01
apokryphos!automatix05:01
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.05:01
apokryphosLiNuX_LoVeR_17: i recommend using easyubuntu instead05:01
apokryphos!easyubuntu05:01
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:01
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Ok05:01
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Thanks05:01
BKajyeah  apokryphos, I looked there , but that particular lib file isn't there05:02
apokryphosBKaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libtag_c.so.0+&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i38605:02
apokryphosit is05:02
WesDisculpen... Pero alguien me podria explicar cual es el problema entre un idioma y otro para utilizar estos medio...?05:02
apokryphosWes: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to tell you again.05:02
apokryphos!es05:02
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:02
apokryphosWes: only English in here05:03
WesOk Thanks05:03
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Wesja05:03
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KDEfanboywhere are the packages that incorporate the 6/14 KDE security updates? http://dot.kde.org/1150310128/05:05
BKajapokryphos: , I've already installed that pkg and when I call up streamtuner the dialog tells me this file is missing  >libtag_c.so.005:05
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apokryphosBKaj: then it's likely looking for it in the wrong place05:05
apokryphosBKaj: what's hte output of ls -lh /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.005:05
BKajit still works but the dialog is annoying05:06
BKajhang on05:06
apokryphosKDEfanboy: they're probably already commited, and put into dapper-security05:06
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BKajapokryphos: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-06-28 10:02 /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0 -> libtag_c.so.0.0.005:07
apokryphosBKaj: and ls -lh /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0.0.005:07
BKajapokryphos: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13K 2006-01-19 11:14 /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0.0.005:08
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apokryphoslooks fine05:08
KDEfanboyapokryphos: well i have that repository, but adept is showing the last update for kdm being on 6/1205:08
Yaccinaanyone can help me with kxgenerator?05:08
apokryphosas you can see, it's there; the program must be looking for it in a very odd place05:08
BKajok, well the program runs fine without it anyway :)05:09
apokryphosKDEfanboy: perhaps they were commited then, then.05:09
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KDEfanboyhmm, anyone know where to find the package changelogs?05:11
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v3ctorthe artswrapper one is ok, not setuid root05:13
apokryphosKDEfanboy: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase_3.5.2-0ubuntu27/changelog05:13
apokryphosit's there05:13
KDEfanboyah, thanks much05:14
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bennukemsalut05:14
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apokryphos!fr05:15
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:15
bennukemenfin ,c'est re plutot05:15
bennukemj'ai pas de son avec mon kubuntu alors que kde lui fait du bruit05:15
bennukemsnif05:15
buddhoubotu : yep ok05:16
apokryphosEnglish only in here please, use the above channels for French discussion.05:16
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buddhobennukem viens sur kubuntu-fr on en parle05:16
bennukemok05:16
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acesuareshi all05:25
sanjayhello05:25
acesuareshaving problems with lm-sensors on ubuntu-server dapper05:25
acesuaresMAKEDEV don't work as expected and the error 'No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.'05:26
acesuaresis given by sensors-detect.05:26
sanjaycan some one tell how to uninstall oracle 10g xe05:26
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h3sp4wnkubuntu uses udev05:28
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corteumumm can sumone gimme a hand ....im trying to get a mixer to run on my desktop...i quit kmix and ran command hdspmixer...says opening app ...then it just dissapears ...and its not on my process list05:29
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corteumwere did it go05:29
acesuaresh3sp4wn: yes I guessed because the i2c-0 to i2c-7u appera in /dev/.static/dev but not in /dev05:30
acesuareshowever, if it's using udev, why does lm-sensors package not work ?05:30
h3sp4wnHave you built the kernel modules ?05:30
acesuareswhy do I need to build the kernel modules ?05:30
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acesuaresI mean, apt-get install lm-sensors should do the trick, rioght ??05:31
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acesuaresand by the way, yes, I can modprob i2c-dev05:31
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acesuaresdo i need any more kernel modules ?05:32
acesuaresI also followed http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/32705:33
acesuaresbut that didn't work (because of those missing devices)05:33
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corteumumm can sumone gimme a hand ....im trying to get a mixer to run on my desktop...i quit kmix and ran command hdspmixer...says opening app ...then it just dissapears ...and its not on my process list ...were did it go05:35
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h3sp4wnacesuares: Works fine for me05:37
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acesuaresh3sp4wn: really ? do you have ubuntu-server or 'just' ubuntu (desktop) ?05:39
eduproblems with audio... can't play sounds05:39
acesuaresbecasue I have it running on Dapper Kubuntu (desktop version)05:39
h3sp4wnacesuares: kubuntu with bits from debian sid and the udev from edgy05:40
acesuaresedu: dapper, breezy, wgat version05:40
eduacesuares: dapper05:40
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acesuaresh3sp4wn: you're way to advanced for me :-P05:40
insanekanehello aseigo05:40
acesuaresedu: I found this yesterday after a loooong time with no sound: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=15219605:41
LiNuX_LoVeR_17How would I set Firefox as my default browser?05:41
acesuaresLiNuX_LoVeR_17: waht version, kubuntu dapper ???05:41
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Ya05:41
LiNuX_LoVeR_17dapper05:41
eduacesuares: thanks, I'll take a look05:41
acesuaresLiNuX_LoVeR_17: Kubuntu, yah ? If you don't give correct versions and stuff, it's hard to help05:42
acesuaresassuming kubuntu: go to System Settings and the KDE Components, there you can fiddle with browser and email05:43
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Kubuntu Dapper05:43
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17Thanks05:45
LiNuX_LoVeR_17but one more question05:45
ninHerhi all05:45
acesuaresLiNuX_LoVeR_17:  shoot05:45
LiNuX_LoVeR_17acesuares, why would I be in the Kubuntu room if I had anything but Kubuntu? :-)05:46
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bennukemre05:46
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h3sp4wnacesuares: When you run sudo sensors-detect - What happens ?05:46
acesuaresLiNuX_LoVeR_17: I think you'll find that answer in /etc/sysconfig/acesuares/confused-by-many-open-windows=TRUE05:46
acesuaresheh05:47
LiNuX_LoVeR_17lol oh ok05:47
LiNuX_LoVeR_17acesuares, ;-) lol05:47
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17Anyone here play AOE?05:49
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OdyXanyone using knode successfully here ?05:53
kronozhmm just got my 5 kubuntu cd's mailed to me :)05:53
Yaccinaanyone knows a good graphical tool for configuring wacom tabletts? :(05:54
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DeadS0ulthere's one built it05:55
DeadS0ulin even05:55
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daschuwhen i go to the adept updater, the only thing that is available is an update for kdm (X display manager for KDE)... but it says that it is broken... can i remove it to reinstall or is there a way to fix it?05:56
daschuwhen i go to the adept updater, the only thing that is available is an update for kdm (X display manager for KDE)... but it says that it is broken... can i remove it to reinstall or is there a way to fix it?05:57
daschusorry05:57
daschumy bad05:58
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Dragoonzgood morning everyone... well almost afternoon... but any rate i'm looking for someone to help me with AD authenication.  I have tried several things with some luck... but i have reinstalled and would like to know the right way to do it05:59
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daschuany help about fixing kdm (x display manager for KDE)??06:03
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TheHighChilddashu do you know what package it's interfering with?06:04
ubuntuhow to make an *.iso from an directory?06:04
trappistdaschu: try `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install` in a console06:04
TheHighChildhe left trappist06:04
trappistubuntu: man mkisofs06:04
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trappistTheHighChild: oops :)06:04
acesuaresubuntu: man mkisofs06:05
trappistyou tell him acesuares06:05
acesuarestrappist: you beat me cause I checked it that command really was accessible in dapper :-)06:05
acesuaresit=if06:05
ubuntuacesuares: is it a iso with a dir in it or will evrything inside the dir be on root-level?06:06
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Fiyawerx!lamp06:06
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP06:06
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acesuaresubuntu: I didn't read the f. manual, but if you do, it might tell you how to achieve such cunning structure.06:06
acesuaresAnd it'll also tell you about Rock Ridge, Joliet, Bootable (!) CD's and more and more...06:07
acesuaresand don't forget that yuou can mount -o loop=/dev/loop/0 /filename.iso /mnt/yourmountediso !06:07
acesuaresyes yes, iso's are fun !06:07
Fiyawerxhey guys anyone familiar with the lamp apps? I did theinstall of apache2, mysql and php4, and after a reboot my network stopped auto connecting06:07
ubuntuim here because i didn't understand TFM06:08
acesuaresubuntu: if you run X, for intacne KDE with Kubuntu, you can just use K3B which is a cd-burner application (like CDToast and what have you)06:08
tackatTFM means  "The Fucking Manual". Does that answer your question?06:08
acesuaresand from these programs you can make very simple an .iso image wihtout learning about mkisofs and cdrecord and dao and tao etc etc.06:09
acesuarestackat: we're getting absurdly hilarious here. :-006:09
Hobbsee!language06:09
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.06:09
acesuaresintacne = instance06:10
Hobbseeimbrandon: ping06:10
imbrandonpong06:10
acesuaresubuntu: do you have kubuntu dapper installed ?06:10
Hobbseeimbrandon: you might want to watch these guys, and or boot them06:10
ubuntumy sys is only bootable from my burner (which contains kubuntu-desktop-cd)06:10
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acesuaresHobbsee: I would like to know what you mean by 'these guys' and boot them'.06:12
Hobbseeacesuares: was referring in particular to tackat, and boot usually refers to either a kick, a ban, or both.06:12
imbrandonacesuares, she means to keep an eye on the room to make sure it dosent get out of hand or offtopic and conforms to the CoC06:12
acesuaresubuntu: if you have kubuntu running, you can start up K3B and then make an image (of the directory you want to make an image of).06:12
BoSJoHi all. Is there any way to set Konqueror up to have the same look and feel like Total Commander http://www.ghisler.com/picture.htm06:12
acesuaresHobbsee: thanks for specification, I took care not to spell out the F in RTFM :-)06:13
Hobbseehehe06:13
imbrandon;)06:13
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imbrandonRTM works too ;)06:13
acesuaresimbrandon: thanks for helping keep things non-flamable.06:13
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acesuarestackat: I guess choose wordings more carefull :-)06:14
Fiyawerxanyoen know what would cause kubuntu to not autoload the network on bootup? If i go to the wireless manager under internet and pick my network it connects fine06:14
acesuaresubuntu: what do you want to make an iso of ?06:14
eduacesuares: bad luck, now I can hear my voice (mic is working), but can't listen audio files06:14
acesuaresubuntu: because you need a place to sore the image, that would be on your harddisk, preferably.06:14
Fiyawerxand my /etc/network/interfaces seems to be in order06:15
acesuaresedu: have you speakers connected or headphones ? I assume speakers.06:15
eduacesuares: speakers06:15
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acesuaresIn the mixer (kmix) there is a slide for 'wave' this is some blue squirrely icon. Let me look if I can find a screenshot for ya.06:15
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ubuntuacesuares: my /home06:17
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eduacesuares: I see that blue icon (PCM)06:17
acesuaresedu: http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=17363&file1=17363-1.png&file2=17363-2.png&file3=17363-3.png&name=KDE+UI+Tweaking&PHPSESSID=490387a6ec2cc2f1ec66166a4106dbb606:17
ubuntuacesuares: k3b: permission denied06:17
acesuares(man what a url). Maybe simpler: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=17363 and then click on the first06:17
acesuarespicture.06:17
ubuntuacesuares: sudo k3b -> crash06:17
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acesuareswhy sudo06:18
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acesuaresubuntu why sudo06:18
elieany 1 know how to add a schortcut into the menu?06:18
acesuaresjust use the menu (the 'K' which I shall call Start button).06:18
dr_willis!sudo06:18
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.06:18
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acesuaresubuntu: press the Start Button, go to Multimedia, choose K3B (CD & DVD Burning)06:19
acesuares!k3b06:19
ubotuk3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto06:19
ubuntuacesuares: sudo because k3b tells me: permission denied06:20
eduacesuares: ok, the green light is on and the PCM volume level at 100%... what else?06:20
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acesuaresedu: I don't know what else... at least you can hear sound now (through your mic).06:21
acesuaresedu: you *should* hear something if you played a .wav or .ogg file... Play around for a while you'll suddenly find out why and what, but06:21
eduacesuares: yep, I hear sounds through the mic... only that06:21
acesuaresI can't help more 'cause I don't know so much about this either.06:22
ubuntubtw: how to make an iso with k3b?06:22
eduacesuares: ok, thanks a lot06:22
acesuaresedu06:22
acesuaresedu: what are you using to play music/sounds ??06:22
acesuaresubuntu: if you open K3B it telss you permission denied ??06:22
acesuaresunbuntu: or it tells you to run k3bsetup ??06:23
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ubuntuno if i add my files it tells me that it has no read permission06:24
acesuaresubuntu: http://www.math.hmc.edu/computing/support/burning-cds/06:24
acesuaresnow in the step 'THE CD BURNING PROCESS' just click 'Only Create Image'.06:24
acesuaresThere you are.06:24
eduacesuares: cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp, play sound.wav, amarok... it seems to be playing but no sound is heard, everything being apparently fine but hearing no sound!06:24
acesuaresedu hmmm... but your mic gives you sound -> sound card working.06:25
dr_willisedu that sounds like the mixer has the volume muted.06:25
imbrandonamarok is alsa and /dev/dsp is oss06:25
eduacesuares: that's right06:25
edudr_willis: I know, but it's not06:25
acesuaresedu: buy an mp3 player or ipod06:26
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Fiyawerxacesuares: i ahd the same problem, i had to try random jacks, turned out it was outputting through one of my microphone jacks (hp media center pc, so the sound jacks are all over the place)06:26
acesuaresedu: put those little earphones on your mic06:26
Fiyawerxer.. that was for edu i think06:26
h3sp4wnSounds like the speakers are plugged into th wrong place06:26
acesuaresedu: crank up the volume on you PC and spekaers06:26
dr_willisyep - ive seen that as well Fiyawerx06:26
ubuntuacesuares: normal k3b has no permission to read normally only ownerreadable files06:26
acesuaresand voila! another happy customer !06:26
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imbrandonheya nixternal06:26
dr_willislow end sounds cards that have jacks that can be input., or output depending on the driver-settings and whats plugged in.06:26
nixternalbah06:27
dr_willisWhat is this sound card anyway?06:27
Fiyawerxdr_willis : it's a pain cus my headphones won't reach the back of my pc heh, so i have to run the pc to the stereo then headphones into that06:27
dr_willisextension cable? :P06:27
Fiyawerxdr_willis : not sure how low end it is, but the "front" panel jacks can be configured for either intput or output, the rear no06:27
acesuaresubuntu: you have the jack in the right place since you can hear your mic through the speakers06:27
h3sp4wnYou lose quality with those cheap extension cables06:27
eduacesuares: in fact, when I log in as root, it works fine06:28
acesuaresubuntu: you have the Line Jack Sens OFF06:28
acesuaresedu ahhhh!06:28
acesuaresedu and now you're telling us...06:28
eduaceseuares: but it doesn't when I use another user account06:28
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acesuarestry to look in what groups you are06:28
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acesuaresyuou made a new account with that (insert curse) KUser ?06:29
eduacesuares: I am member of audio group06:29
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acesuaresedu: still, something must be wrong06:29
Elie_how 2 add a shotcut in alacarte?06:29
acesuaresedu: can you compare a normal user that DOES work with your user ?06:29
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acesuaresyou can go terminal and user 'id useraccount'06:29
h3sp4wnElie_: alacarte is for gnome06:30
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acesuareslike 'id ubuntu' and it'll tell you in what groups you are.06:30
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Elie_k06:30
eduacesuares: done06:30
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acesuaresedu: and what's the difference ?06:30
eduacesuares: normal users are members of their own group only06:31
acesuaresthen they can't use audio ?06:31
eduacesuares: well, I added them to the "audio" group, but no effect06:32
eduacesuares: I restarted, but nothing changed06:32
acesuares4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin)06:32
acesuaresedu: above are the groups my 'main' user is in.06:32
acesuaresedu: normal users, I don't put them in admin and lpadmin, but the rest yes06:33
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acesuaresedu: i can't understand why KUser doesn't do this more sensible06:33
Tallia1Kubuntusomebody here can help me with openoffice?06:33
acesuaresedu: like give you choice between more type of users.06:33
Tallia1Kubuntuevery time that i write a formula with the equation editor, the size is locked :|06:33
acesuaresedu: resume: soundcard ok, alsa/kmix/oss/whatever drivers and deamins are ok06:34
Tallia1Kubuntui don't really like it, is there a way to not use defalt lock on resize for formula objects?06:34
eduacesuares: yes... let me explain you a thing06:34
acesuaresedu: speakers are okay, only problem is permissions. You will be able to sort that out..06:34
acesuaresedu yes ?06:34
eduacesuares: I created manually a group called "admin"06:35
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acesuaresedu: huh ? it's already there in the default install !06:35
KaoticEvilwell, that was annoying06:35
supHi... I'm later... What's up whit the admin user?06:36
eduacesuares: 'cause install had a problem, and it was no present in the default install06:36
acesuaresedu: reinstall, then ?06:36
dr_williswhat admin use ? :P06:36
eduacesuares: I created "a posteriori"06:36
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acesuaresedu: I created 'tagliatelli al dente' and various fungi !06:37
h3sp4wnedu: If that is the case is the audio group present ?06:37
h3sp4wnedu: run - ls -la /dev/audio06:38
eduh3sp4wn: yes, it's present06:38
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acesuaresedu: unless you know what you do Iwould consider reinstalling and fix the problem you had during install! bye for now, ace06:39
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h3sp4wnedu: When you run that command do you get root audio (or root 1031)06:39
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eduh3sp4wn: crw-rw---- 1 root audio    /dev/audio06:39
supedu: did you try chmod 666 /dev/audio?06:40
h3sp4wnedu: cat /etc/group | grep audio06:40
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edusup: nope, do you mean rw access for ugo?06:41
trappistor, more efficiently, grep audio /etc/group06:41
supedu: yes06:41
trappistor getent group audio06:41
eduh3sp4wn: all my users are members of "audio"06:42
supedu: sometime, I see this some problem in my distro, and im fix this perm in /dev/audio and work very well....06:42
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supedu: sorry... I see this same problem.....06:42
h3sp4wnsup: It is past my ability to help you without more information (and I can't spend ages trying to get it) sorry06:43
h3sp4wnedu sorry06:44
edusup: it doesn't work06:44
eduh3sp4wn: thanks06:44
supedu: can you tell me all your problem... I arrive now and I don't know your complete problem06:45
om_amarok keeps displaying HTML code on the bottom left for some reason. i'm running a fresh install of kubuntu. here's a screen shot: http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg06:45
supedu: What you try to do?06:46
trappistom_: I've heard that problem addressed on #amarok, but I don't remember the solution06:46
om_thanks trappist.. im there now but nobody is talking06:47
om_oh they say they couldnt figure it out06:47
om_damn06:47
trappistdoh06:47
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supedu: do you try access /dev/audio or you try use kmix in kubuntu?!?!?06:48
edusup: of course... my sound card is properly detected, I can play audio as root, but my other users can't... it seems to be playing but no sound is heard, everything being apparently fine but hearing no sound! OTH, mic is working and I can hear my voice06:48
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supedu: tell me about your hardware...06:49
Fiyawerxhmm, anyone know where to manually set specific dns entries? my pc doesn't seem to be resolving anything06:49
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v3ctor /etc/resolv.conf06:49
edusup: cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp, play sound.wav, amarok... the file is playing but no sound is heard06:49
furguedu: so the mic works as a user, you can hear yourslef, just not other audio?06:49
v3ctor^^ for dns entries06:50
edufurgu: right06:50
furguedu: must be a mixer problem...06:50
trappistfurgu: /etc/hosts06:50
trappistgah06:50
Fiyawerxresolv.conf : DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN06:50
trappistFiyawerx: /etc/hosts06:50
furguedu: how much have you looked at the mixer?06:50
Fiyawerxtrappistit worked until i install the LAMP stuff, so i'm not even sure what thats supposed to look like06:50
trappistresolv.conf will be clobbered by dhcp06:50
furguedu: try changing all of the sliders06:51
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furguedu: sometimes mine look correct but actually are not06:51
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supedu: well, did you try use kmix in kde, open the mixer, and open PCM channel in all turn06:51
gerardello06:51
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edufurgu: I already changed all of the sliders, but nothing happened06:51
edusup: Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.10rc3 emulation code)06:52
Fiyawerxanyone know if anything in here (my etc/hosts) would stop dns from resolving?06:52
Fiyawerxhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1670006:52
furguedu: in kmixer there are little lights under the different outputs/inputs... they should all be *bright* green (not dull green), is that true?06:52
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edufurgu: yep, all the lights are bright green... ON06:53
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trappistfurgu: is this a vmware installation?06:53
trappistdangit I did it again06:53
furguheh trappist06:53
trappistFiyawerx: is this a vmware installation?06:53
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Fiyawerxi have a feeling it had something to do with mysql or php, i remember one of them popping up a message related to the network but i didn't write it down06:53
Fiyawerxtrappist: nope, worked fine until i followed the !lamp guide06:53
edneymatiashi again!06:53
supedu: sorry in this time, i have to leave this room... I hope you can fix your problem.. bye06:53
trappistFiyawerx: what does your resolv.conf look like06:53
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edneymatiasi'm still in problem...06:53
furguedu: did you move the bottom slider (left/right)?06:53
Fiyawerxtrappist: not doing dhcp either, have it set static IP so i can forward ports06:54
edufurgu: no, I didn't06:54
Fiyawerxtrappist: resolv.conf is empty, with those lines about not editing it manually06:54
trappistFiyawerx: well that's why you can't resolv anything06:54
Fiyawerxtrappist: not sure what caused it then, it was working up until today really06:54
trappistFiyawerx: you need an entry like 'nameserver 4.2.2.2" but with the ip of your dns server06:55
Fiyawerxin resolv.conf?06:55
trappistyes06:55
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Fiyawerxwon't that get overwritten?06:55
trappistonly by dhcp - it looks like dhcp *tried* to set it up, which is why it says don't edit and why it's empty06:55
sampanwhat's the cli command to change your password?  sudo passwd ...?  every time i change it, it says updated, but ... it doesn't stick -- to do any sudo/kdesu i have to type the OLD password06:55
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Fiyawerxahh06:56
trappistsampan: just 'passwd'06:56
Fiyawerxthat's funny, i use 4.2.2.2 as my backup :)06:56
sampandoh!  thanks trappist06:56
edufurgu: nothing happened06:56
v3ctor`sudo passwd` would try to change root passwd06:56
Fiyawerxso can i have 2 nameserver lines?06:56
v3ctorFiyawerx: yes06:56
trappistFiyawerx: yes, primary and secondary06:56
v3ctor3 atually06:56
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trappistas many as you like actually06:56
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trappistbut more than 3 is getting a little ridiculous06:57
Fiyawerxdo you have to tell it primary/secondary? or just nameserver blah's06:57
v3ctorFiyawerx: no06:57
sampanv3ctor  gotcha ... well, i guess i have a root password now -- though what i would ever use it for, i have no idea... is there an easy way to delete it?  or should i just leave it be?06:57
trappistoh my bad, 3 is max according to the man page06:57
v3ctorjust `namserver <ip>`06:57
edufurgu: I have 2 mixers, C-Media PCI and VIA 82xxxxxxxx06:57
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Fiyawerxthanks guys, gonna reboot and hope it sticks, seems to be working tho :)06:58
Fiyawerxno idea what fubard it06:58
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v3ctorsampan: you can just leave it06:58
BKajCan anyone tell me why Mplayer requires root root to install it ...it's there but i can't get access to make the file executable ?06:58
furguedu, if you go to System Settings-> Sound & Multimedia, to the Hardware tab, do you see options in there?06:59
trappistFiyawerx: looks like dhcp tried and failed to set it up06:59
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furguBKaj, all programs require root for 'sytem' install06:59
v3ctorFiyawerx: your dhcp server either has no dns info or you got bad data and it ignored it07:00
furguBkaj, how did you install07:00
furgu?07:00
sampanv3ctor  thanks07:00
v3ctorsampan: np07:00
edneymatiasit seems kdm is overriding my LANG variable or isn't reading it at all! always i get logged in my LANG variable is setted to POSIX instead of pt_BR.utf8 as in the terminals....the /etc/environment file is correctly configured...what's going on?07:01
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edufurgu: I see many options there07:01
BKajI didn't it's in the koq file , must have DL 'd with updates or something07:02
BKajkonq07:02
furgu<edneymatias>: Did you change /etc/bash.bashrc?07:02
furguedu, is the audio device set to ALSA?07:02
furguedu, Full duplex?07:02
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edneymatiasfurgu, yeah yeah...i did it...and it really worked...but i'm still curious about that....07:02
furguedu, under general tab does Test Sounds work?07:03
edneymatiasfurgu, i just found a bug in launchpad...about that...07:03
ubuntu___interesting07:03
furgu<edneymatias>: my LANG was screwed up too, particularly in konsole, just gotta live with it for now I guess07:03
trappistedneymatias: my LANG is set to C in my /etc/profile - but I may have done that myself07:04
edneymatiasfurgu acording to the bug report the problem can be solved by adding a parameter to kdmrc in /etc/kde3/kdm07:04
edufurgu: test sounds doesn't work, and the audio device is set to "Autodetect", with full duplex disabled07:04
edneymatiasfurgu, the link https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/4857607:04
Fiyawerxhey guys07:04
Fiyawerxafter a reboot07:04
Fiyawerxit rewrote my resolv.conf07:04
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Fiyawerxoh07:04
furguedu, try setting it to ALSA, apply and test sound07:04
edneymatiasfurgu, the link https://launchpad.net/bugs/4857607:04
Fiyawerxit's a symlink, resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf07:05
furguedneymatias, not much I can do about it but thanks for the info07:05
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v3ctorFiyawerx: did it populate properly this time?07:06
edufurgu: the same... no sound is heard07:06
edneymatiasfurgu, i will try that also, but that doesn't answer why things go ok with installation user and not with ldap users....07:06
furguedneymatias, I don't understand, LDAP users get a shell?07:07
Fiyawerxv3ctor: nope07:07
Fiyawerxv3ctor: after reboot, no resolution07:07
v3ctorFiyawerx: do other systems get dns info correctly?07:07
trappistFiyawerx: what does /etc/network/interfaces look like07:07
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furguedu, where do you have the speakers plugged in?  front panel or back panel?  My particular sound driver has a problem, I have to install the headphones into the mic jack of the front panel07:07
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furguedu, I would try all the jacks just to make sure it isnt something dumb like that07:08
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edneymatiasfurgu, when ldap users log in the kdm the LANG is setted to POSIX ignoring what is in /etc/environment, so programs like openoffice get crazy...07:09
Fiyawerxtrappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1670307:09
Fiyawerxv3ctor: yes07:09
Fiyawerxv3ctor: i really think something with the mysql install did it07:09
furguedneymatias, sorry I'm being silly, LDAP is just being used to authenticate, but this doesnt happen with local users then?07:09
edufurgu: but now I can hear sounds registered by the mic... this is weird07:09
edneymatiasfurgu, when i change to gdm it works fine even if i log in kde...so i thing it's something in kdm...07:09
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v3ctorFiyawerx: i had this problem on my laptop at work....everything worked fine except at work07:10
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trappistFiyawerx: you've got most of your devices (do you really have all those?) set to use dhcp07:10
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furguedu, the driver is made wrong, or the implementation for the chip is silly, the the output goes to the wrong jack, dont ask... I have some Intel sound chip07:10
edufurgu: and the user "root" has no audio problems!07:10
Fiyawerxtrappist: don't use any of them but wireless07:10
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furguedu, never mind then if root is ok07:10
trappistFiyawerx: the wlan0 or ath0?07:10
furguedu sorry i forgot07:10
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Fiyawerxtrap: wlan007:10
edneymatiasfurgu....indeed i have only one local user and it works fine...i will test with anothers local users...07:10
trappistFiyawerx: get rid of eth0, et1, eth2 and ath0 then07:11
furguedneymatias the kdmrc link you sent doesnt work?07:11
trappistFiyawerx: from that file07:11
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edneymatiasi didn't test yet...07:11
Fiyawerxtrappist: rgr, and then edit resolv.conf? I think I may trying to reinstall mysql first, it was working fine with this exact config until i installed that07:11
edneymatiasfurgu thank you...i will try now...see ya!07:11
trappistFiyawerx: yes07:11
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Fiyawerx!lamp07:12
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP07:12
furguedu, what are permissions on dev/dsp? (ls -al /dev/dsp)07:12
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edufurgu: please, could you tell me what GID do "lpadmin" and "admin" have?07:13
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furguedu, 104 and 10607:14
h3sp4wnfiyawerex: I would recommend mod-perl over php07:14
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edufurgu: well, my lpadmin GID is 106! is this a problem?07:14
furguedu, no it sounds right07:14
furguls -al /dev/audio07:15
furgucrw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 2006-06-21 15:03 /dev/audio07:15
furguedu ^^^07:15
ChefWillanyone recommend a good php/html text editor..kate just isnt working for me07:15
furguthose are the perms on my dev/dsp07:15
furgutoo07:15
trappistChefWill: vim07:15
robotgeekChefWill: quanta?07:15
furguand dev/audio edu07:15
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robotgeektrappist: be friendly to new users :)07:15
edufurgu: yes, the same on my dsp07:15
trappistrobotgeek: I'm being friendly!07:15
trappist:)07:15
furgu!emacs07:15
ubotuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code07:15
furgu!code07:16
ubotuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida07:16
furguQuanta is so broken07:16
furguI like it, but the visual editor sucks monkey balls07:16
edufurgu: crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio  /dev/audio (I changed the perms to 666, but nothing happened)07:17
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furguedu, ls -al /dev/snd, same permissions?07:17
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furgu!html07:18
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com07:18
edufurgu: 660 for ugo on all of them07:18
furguNo NVU?07:18
furguzomg07:18
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Kreugerfurgu: what about NVU?07:19
edufurgu: look, my lpadmin GID is 106, which is your admin GID! is this a problem?07:20
corteum /nick digital_caeser07:20
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furguedu, no, like I said it is okay, they are the same07:20
furguKreuger, Nvu should be listed under !html?07:20
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Fiyawerxtrappist: it's still removing my resolv.conf entries07:20
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Kreugerwhat do you mean !html??07:20
furgu!html07:20
ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com07:20
edufurgu: I created the "admin" group manually with GID = 99907:20
trappistFiyawerx: what does your resolv.conf look like now07:21
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Fiyawerxtrappist: same thing as before, # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)07:21
KreugerIm well aware what html is but what's with the exclamation mark infront of it?07:21
furguedu, admin=106, lpadmin=10407:21
furguedu, you shouldnt futz around with those anyways07:21
furguedu, did you have admin and lpadmin groups?07:22
furguedu, is this a fresh install or upgrade?07:22
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furguKreuger, the bot will tell you things, its all knowing... type !word07:22
furgulike:07:22
furgu!work07:22
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ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.07:22
Kreugeroh07:22
edufurgu: my admin=999, lpadmin=106... maybe this has bad effects...07:22
Kreugerthat what ubotu is then07:23
furguedu fix them, why are you changing them?  bad edu07:23
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furgu!ubotu07:23
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage07:23
KreugerI believe itdoesn't have NVU because Ubuntu doesn't come with it by default07:23
edufurgu: sorry, I didn't changed them! look, in my default fresh install, "admin" group was not present...07:23
furguUbuntu doesnt come with much by default Krueger, esp Quanta+, so thats obviousaly not the reason07:24
v3ctormy kubuntu came with nvu by default07:24
Kreugerdapper does I think. that's how I got it07:24
edufurgu: so, I created "admin" manually with GID 99907:24
furgudapper comes default with Quanta+?07:24
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Kreugerno I meant NVU07:24
Kreugernot installed but in the repos07:24
Kreugerand Quanta+ was there too, it was in there for breezy as well07:25
v3ctormine waas installed by default07:25
furguKreuger, almost everything is in the repos...?07:25
Kreugernvu wasn't when I had breezy07:25
edufurgu: I'm gonna change those GIDs07:25
v3ctorit is on my dapper box07:25
v3ctorhmm07:25
KreugerI remember I had to download the source and I couldn't get it working and when I upgraded to dapper it was in the  repos07:26
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DaSkreech2//////////////////////////`07:27
edufurgu: please, could you tell me what GID do "crontab" have? (104 in my system)07:28
robotgeekanyways, nvu can be installed from the repos :)07:28
Kreugeryeah, why's it matter if the bot has it anyway?07:28
Philip5i have a little problem with a setting in kde... kubuntu comes by default with a one-click action with the left mouse button but i like the dubble click to activate stuff... wich setting controlls that? i guess its in windows behaviour somewhere?07:29
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eduplease, could you tell me what GID do "crontab" have? (104 in my system)07:30
KreugerPhilip5: when you installed did it ask you about keyboard layout? It should've asked if you want KDE or Windows or more (I forget what else)..I'm not positive but that might affect your mouse too07:30
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Philip5maybe and i think i answered kde in that case07:30
Fiyawerxugh, great, i made a change that sent the prompts for apt-installs to kde, and now im getting errors about it unable to initialize kde frontend during package installs and remvoals07:30
Philip5but how do i change it? i keep by habit to dubbel click and it's a bit annoying07:31
robotgeekFiyawerx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f Dialog debconf07:31
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Fiyawerxrobotgeek: thanks, no idea why that just stopped working again too07:31
robotgeekor sudo apt-get install libqt-perl07:31
KreugerPhilip5: look in kcontrol (K menu -> system settings)07:31
Fiyawerxall i did was install the LAMP stuffs and all kind of problems pop up, heh07:31
KreugerPhilip5: you should see Mouse under Hardware it has the settings there07:32
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Fiyawerxugh, and im not in the mood for this resolver problem, going to end up just reinstalling the system again07:32
minscHello, after kubuntu-install, how can i set my screen-res. and refresh-rate?07:32
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Philip5Kreuger, thanks... there it was... i was looking through all the windows settings and behaviours07:34
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eduhey people... need some help07:35
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jorge_wireless placa quem sabe?07:36
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Kreugeryou're welcome07:36
jorge_obridado07:36
Fiyawerx!lamp07:37
jorge_obrigado07:37
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP07:37
Fiyawerxubotu says you can install a lamp server from the boot menu, is that not on the dvd?07:37
Fiyawerxi've been using the install dvd, maybe thats my problem with stuff07:37
eduI wanna know what GIDs have the groups 1xx -> "users", "dchp", "syslog", "klog", "crontab", "ssh", etc.07:37
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furguedu, you shouldnt change these GIDs!07:38
furguedu, I am scared for your system07:38
furguedu, if crontab had 104 then your system is proba different than mine07:39
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Fiyawerxand is there anywhere that details what the "install a server" (doesnt say lamp) option is on the boot dvd07:39
edufurgu: I know, but my install crashed and I'm trying to fix my system manually07:40
h3sp4wnFiyawerx: The only cd with that option is the ubuntu-server.iso07:40
furguedu, if your install crashed reinstall, dont try to fix07:40
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edufurgu: please, do cat /etc/group | grep 10. for me07:40
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furguedu, no, no more help until you do a good install07:40
Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: the lamp option?07:40
edufurgu: I can't reinstall, it crashes always...07:41
h3sp4wnFiyawerx: Yep07:41
furguedu, are you sure your CD and ISO are good?07:41
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: ah ok07:41
edufurgu: absolutely07:41
DaSkreechedu: Always at the same place?07:41
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: guess i'll have to pay more attention next time to see what it does to my network again07:41
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edufurgu: kubuntu-i386-alternate.iso or something like that07:41
furguedu, always in the same place?07:41
furguedu, always crash in the same place?07:42
edufurgu: yes, always in the same place07:42
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DaSkreechedu: Where?07:42
edufurgu: when installing basic packages, at 86%07:43
h3sp4wnFiyawerx: i think you should just install libapache2-mod-perl2 mysql-server (then you will have what you need)07:43
furguedu, how did you check your ISO?07:43
edufurgu: for that reason I skipped some final steps, my system works FINE, I have only this sound problem... nothing important, but I want to fix it07:43
furguedu and CD for that matter?07:43
edufurgu: md5sum07:44
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: i followed the instructions in the !lamp link, i do remember it saying something about the network but i was dumb and didn't write it down07:44
furguedu, how about your CD-Rom?  Are you sure that is good?07:44
h3sp4wnFiyawerx: ? edit /etc/network/interfaces07:44
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furguedu, there are probably many post-install steps that are not being done07:44
edufurgu: I am pretty sure my CD-Rom is good07:45
Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: that works fine, dns stopped working07:45
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edufurgu: maybe, but I made a full upgrade07:45
h3sp4wnFiyawerx: Running a dns server ?07:45
edufurgu: with Adept07:45
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h3sp4wnRunning a dist-upgrade with adept could cause problems07:46
furguedu, I would make sure you do a clean install, I can not help any more until you do that.  Adept will not make you have a clean install either.07:46
DaSkreechedu: I would press Alt+Ctrl+F1 (or F2 I Forget) and the after the (broken) system is installed just get those packages from the net07:46
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furguDaSkreech, what post-install setup does Ubuntu do?07:46
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: sorry, dns _resolution_ stopped07:47
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h3sp4wnFiyawerx: Do you use dhcp or static ip ?07:47
Fiyawerxstatic ip07:47
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h3sp4wnFiyawerx: edit /etc/resolv.conf07:47
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: i did, and with no interfaces on dhcp, it still gets overwritten every reboot07:47
Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: but i never had to do that before, even on static07:48
eduDaSkreech: good point, but I did it in my first KDE session after install07:48
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: until i installed the mysql/php/apache stuff07:48
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h3sp4wnFiyawerx: I never use packages for apache (Distro's mess with the configuration too much of me)07:49
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h3sp4wnFiyawerx: I can't understand why any of those packages would affect resolv.conf07:51
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furguedu, if I had to guess there are probably some important things happening in which you are missing out on.  I wish you could do a fresh install07:51
werxh3sp4wnme either, but thats literally what I did, from a reboot -> follow instructions on !lamp page, -> reboot, no dns resolution anymore07:51
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ariel_hello folks07:52
werxh3sp4wn: i'm going to be re-going through them, and see if i can find what it said about the network07:52
DaSkreechHallo07:52
h3sp4wnwerx: But if you add nameserver 194.112.32.1 then dns resolution works again ?>07:52
edufurgu: yes, I wish that too...07:52
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Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: yep07:52
Fiyawerxh3sp4wn: until i reboot07:53
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ariel_quick question. The live CD 6.06 which I feel is great finds my HP laptops broadcom wireless card but will not let me configure it. Anyone know how I can fix this?07:53
edufurgu: but something goes wrong at 86%07:53
furguedu, can you make a new CD and try a different CD-Rom?07:53
Travis|linuxI have a question for all of you... I just got a new keyboard (Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000).. the keyboard itself works fine but it has some special functions I would like to get working.. It has a button for web browser, search, mail, volume, play, and calculator.. how would I get them working??07:53
edufurgu: I tried a CD-RW too, and same situation07:53
h3sp4wn!debootstrap07:53
ubotuI know nothing about debootstrap07:53
edufurgu: CD-RW unit, i mean07:54
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furgu!bootstrap07:55
ubotuI know nothing about bootstrap07:55
Kreuger!HD DVD07:56
ubotuI know nothing about HD DVD07:56
Kreuger!blueray07:56
ubotuI know nothing about blueray07:56
Kreuger!kernel07:56
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild07:56
gatekeeperedu: have you got a problem installing dapper onto your HDD?07:56
furguedu, look at logs in /var/log/installer07:56
furguedu, see anything weird?07:56
h3sp4wn!info debootstrap07:56
ubotudebootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 240 kB07:56
furgu!nothing07:57
ubotuI know nothing about nothing07:57
furgufucking bots07:57
Kreuger!info blue ray07:57
ubotuPackage blue does not exist in dapper07:57
Kreugeraw it has to be ubuntu related?07:57
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Kreuger!info e-penis07:57
furgu!html07:57
ubotuPackage e-penis does not exist in dapper07:57
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ubotuhtml is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com07:57
furgu!e-penis07:57
ubotuI know nothing about e-penis07:57
Kreuger!css07:57
ubotuI know nothing about css07:57
furgu!man crontab07:57
ubotuI know nothing about man crontab07:57
Kreuger!xmms07:58
furgu!info crontab07:58
ubotuAudio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs07:58
edugatekeeper: yes, it crashed07:58
ubotuPackage crontab does not exist in dapper07:58
v3ctor!no stinking clowns07:58
ubotuI know nothing about no stinking clowns07:58
Kreugerhahaha07:58
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h3sp4wn!info anacron07:58
ubotuanacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 196 kB07:58
om_which repository do i need to add to get the updated amarok?07:58
Kreuger!make07:58
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)07:58
om_hopefully it will stop crashing..07:58
Fiyawerxheh, if the first thing you go into is system-settings -> network settings, and click administer mode, it never prompts you for sudo password after a fresh install07:58
furguHACKER07:59
Kreugerom: see here07:59
Kreugerhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php07:59
om_thanks!07:59
Kreugerno problem07:59
gatekeeperedu: OK step 1 run badblocks, if that is OK run the CD and make it do a self check to make sure everything is OK, I had a bad Maxtor HDD exactly the same problem07:59
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furgu<Fiyawerx>, maybe ksudo still thinks you are authenticated?08:00
Kreuger!kde08:00
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE08:00
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gatekeeperfurgu: looks as if you are getting a little frustrated :-)08:01
Kreuger!frustrated08:01
ubotuI know nothing about frustrated08:01
Kreuger!boredom'08:01
ubotuI know nothing about boredom'08:01
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Kreuger!dapper08:02
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"08:02
om_should i install amarok 1.4 or 1.4.1beta? is the beta less stable?08:02
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Kreuger!eft08:02
ubotueft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy08:02
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Kreugerom: no it is not any les stable08:02
Kreuger!edgy08:02
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"08:02
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Kreugerom: if you want to be safe, don't go with the beta but I used it no problem08:03
furgu!having a lack of sex because I don't experience those desires.08:03
ubotuI know nothing about having a lack of sex because I don't experience those desires.08:03
Kreugerhaha nice08:03
kronozefy should have reiserfs support!08:03
kronozer eft even08:03
om_Kreuger: yeah well i wouldnt update except that my 1.3.9 keeps crashing08:04
Kreugershouldn't it be having sex because I don't have experience?08:04
robotgeek!botabuse08:04
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots08:04
Kreuger!bothater08:04
ubotuI know nothing about bothater08:04
Kreuger!info bot08:04
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Kreuger!bot08:04
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage08:04
robotgeekKreuger: you can go and investiage ubotu privately :)08:04
Kreugerbut Im having fun here :p08:05
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edugatekeeper: I'm running badblocks now... did you have sound problems?08:05
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gatekeeperedu: I have in the past had to turn the sound on with alsamixer, and I have followed the wiki instructions to get amaroK running, apart from that I am pleased to say all is OK08:07
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gatekeeperedu: do you get any sound if you go to system setting -> sound and press the test sound button?08:08
edugatekeeper: no, I don't08:08
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gatekeeperedu: you have done that test and it fails?08:10
edugatekeeper: yes, it fails08:10
edugatekeeper: but my soundcard is working, 'cause I can hear my voice throgh the mic08:11
gatekeeperedu: and you are sure the sound is turned on (using kmix or alsamixer)?08:11
edugatekeeper: I'm sure08:12
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AppleSuxAnyone know why AmaroK would not play a valid mp3/ogg file - It just displays - playlist finished08:14
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gatekeeperedu: like furgu says do a fresh install, or at the very least run the Dapper live CD go to system settings -> sound and do a sound test, if it's not picking up your sound card then you need to find out if it is supported08:15
AppleSuxAll other players work just fine08:15
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gatekeeperAppleSux: codec problem hang on...08:15
AppleSuxahhh .. ok.08:16
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robotgeekAppleSux: libxine-extracodecs?08:16
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edugatekeeper: my soundcard is OK, root can play music08:16
AppleSuxrobotgeek 1 sec let me check08:16
DaSkreechok after a few minutes Xorg takes up 100 % of my CPU rendering all my efforts to be productive useless08:17
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robotgeekDaSkreech: what have you enabled extra?08:17
DaSkreechXGL?08:17
cox377is there anyway to add fonts to kubuntu?08:17
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robotgeekDaSkreech: do you have the evil binary drivers installed?08:18
DaSkreechfglrx08:18
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AppleSuxrobotgeek - yes on the libxine08:18
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DaSkreechcox377: Go to konqueror and type fonts:/08:18
AppleSuxrobotgeek - all other players work08:18
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AppleSuxrobotgeek - using VLC now08:19
gatekeeperAppleSux: probable need to install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs have a look at http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full DON'T BLINDLY do everything it says08:19
AppleSuxrobotgeek - using VLC listening to ogg file right now08:19
robotgeekAppleSux: amarok does not play ogg? wth08:19
robotgeek!codecs08:19
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:19
AppleSuxgatekeeper that is for lame ass MS formats08:19
robotgeekgatekeeper: please recommend wiki and official documentation first :)08:19
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cox377daskreech: cheers for that, do i have to log in via root to get new fonts into that folder?08:20
gatekeeperrobotgeek: ok :-)08:20
AppleSuxrobotgeek - it just says playlist finished on ALL FILES08:20
robotgeekAppleSux: hmm, weird.08:20
AppleSuxyeah08:21
robotgeekAppleSux: what engine have you in settings?08:21
AppleSuxi tried that too08:21
AppleSuxxine08:21
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AppleSuxxine with output plugin set to auto08:22
robotgeekAppleSux: to be honest, i have never seen something like this08:22
AppleSuxno biggie - i can mess w it later as I have all other media players working08:23
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DaSkreechrobotgeek: Any way to trace the CPU spikes?08:23
AppleSuxDaskreech - top08:24
AppleSuxDaskreech - type man top08:24
DaSkreechAppleSux: I know what's doing it I want to know why08:24
DaSkreechXorg takes up 100 % of my CPU and just kind of sticks there08:24
DaSkreechsometimes drops to 99.9808:24
AppleSuxDaskreech - are you fully patched?08:25
DaSkreechBut it also becomes an unkillable process08:25
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DaSkreechI'm going to try that now08:25
AppleSuxapt-get update and then apt-get upgrade08:25
AppleSuxDaskreech - Is that on all websites?08:25
stallion88hi everybody08:26
AppleSuxDaskreech - your performance issues I mean08:26
AppleSuxhey stallion8808:26
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stallion88can anybody help me with compiling a game?08:26
DaSkreechNo It's just random within 10-15 minutes of me logging into X08:26
DaSkreechOk all patched up now08:26
DaSkreechstallion88: Sure but I'll probably be popping in and out08:27
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fowlduckhow can i add an application to be run on login to kde?08:28
stallion88DaSkreech: no problem:)08:28
DaSkreech!autostart08:28
ubotuI know nothing about autostart08:28
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robotgeekfowlduck: add it to your session08:28
DaSkreechstallion88: You have b-e?08:28
fowlduckrobotgeek: yes, and how?08:28
robotgeektheres a section in the desktop guide available from the K-menu -> help08:29
fowlduckrobotgeek: i'm really looking for a graphical way to do that08:29
robotgeekfowlduck: yes, there is a grapihical way mentioned08:29
stallion88DaSkreech, sorry but what is b-e??08:29
fowlduckyou can't just tell me?08:29
AppleSuxfowlduck - go to Systems settings >> Systems services08:29
DaSkreech!b-e08:30
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)08:30
AppleSuxKDE is the best!08:30
DaSkreechstallion88: Which Game btw?08:30
gatekeeperAppleSux: <quote> For mp3/avi/quicktime/dvd playback support you will need to install libxine-extracodecs package </quote> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%2908:30
stallion88DaSkreech, sauerbraten08:31
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svivianAnyone have tips on improving screen redraws with rdesktop?08:31
AppleSuxgatekeper - i have the libxine-extracodecs and I am not trying to play files that are sh1t apple formats anyhow08:31
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monomaniacpatHi guys - having trouble encoding in LAME with KAudioCreator - little help?08:32
gatekeeperAppleSux: thought it wouldn't play mp3?08:32
rideoutsvivian: nxclient sometimes gives better preformance08:32
AppleSuxgatekeeper - it doesnt play anything.  it only says - Playlist finished08:33
robotgeekAppleSux: might want to ask in #amarok08:33
rideoutsvivian: also, check out tsclient, it is a frontend to rdesktop and allow you to see all the options and tweak them08:33
AppleSuxgatekeeper - all other players work just fine08:33
furgu!nxclient08:33
AppleSuxmeh08:33
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furgu!info nxclient08:33
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robotgeek!freenx08:33
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX08:33
furgu!info freenx08:34
ubotuPackage freenx does not exist in dapper08:34
robotgeekits not in the repos08:34
furguFreenx is great, but I took forever for me to setup correctly08:34
furguit*08:34
h3sp4wnfurgu: Sevas's repository has freenx its pretty easy to setup08:34
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monomaniacpatwhen encoding lame it tells me it cannot complete because it doesn't like the genre (americana)08:34
rideoutthat how i did it Sevas is grat08:35
gatekeeperAppleSux: I presume you have checked configure amaroK -> Engine?08:35
furguI know I am sure I used a repository to install but still had some strange mysterious issues (evnetually related to permissions but horrible error messages)08:35
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AppleSuxgatekeeper - yes sir.  Any ideas though08:36
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ErtainHello everyone.  I'm trying to compile the program kmediafactory and I need the right Qt libraries.  Trouble is, the versions I have in Adept would break my system.  It says it has "Ubuntu3" release but I have "ubuntu6" release.  Any ideas on this one?  I think I need to install libqt3-dev, but as I have said if I installed that one it would break my system.08:37
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robotgeekErtain: sudo apt-get install kmediafactory08:37
gatekeeperif xine won'y play ball you could try installing the gstreamer stuff, I had a dell where I had to prat around with the engines untill I got it to work08:38
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Ertainrobotgeek: Ah, keen observation.  But that's not the version I want.  In the 0.5.1 version the "add video" option is disabled.  I'm trying to compile it so that I can add video.08:39
robotgeekErtain: sudo apt-get install build-dep kmediafactory08:39
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eduroot account is enabled or disabled by default?08:40
ChefWilldisabled08:40
ErtainOkay, I'll try that, robotkeen.08:40
ErtainEr, robotgeek.08:40
eduChefWill: ok, thanks08:41
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ErtainWhelp, that didn't work.08:41
thomas_hi@ll08:41
thomas_could anybody help me with compiz and xgl?08:41
robotgeek!xgl08:41
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:41
robotgeekErtain: doesnt work meaning?08:42
ErtainI tried that command and it didn't work.08:42
thomas_i got the error that GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available08:42
ErtainI'd sure love to get Xgl working.08:42
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robotgeekErtain: meaning what? it would setup your system for compiling kmediafactory. however, you might need to install other versions of libraries08:43
robotgeek!compile08:43
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)08:43
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ErtainNo, I mean that I used your exact command and it didn't work.  Said something about "not finding build-dep".  Perhaps the wording is wrong?08:45
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robotgeekErtain: sudo apt-get build-dep kmediafactory08:45
robotgeeksorry08:45
ErtainRight-o then.08:46
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eduhow could I change computer workgroup using the GUI?08:46
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ErtainDidn't work.  The build dependencies could not be satisfied.08:46
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robotgeekthats odd, do you have the src repos enabled?08:47
robotgeekin /etc/apt/sources.list , you would need deb-src08:48
robotgeeki think you might need deb-src for universe and multiverse, Ertain08:48
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ErtainYep got that.  If it's also worth repeating that I have a version mismatch for libqt3-mt-dev and other packs.08:49
robotgeekdid you install those on your own?08:49
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ErtainNo, I used Adept. Though I think I used other repositories than the standard ones for Ubuntu.08:50
rideoutedu: system settings -> sharing -> file shareing - click on adminstrator mode, you can mess around with settings there08:50
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Ademananyone here use gdesklets?08:51
robotgeekErtain: cant garauntee your systems amount of borkage :)08:51
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ErtainI wonder if I can downgrade at least libqt3-mt?08:51
gnomefreakAdeman: i think #ubuntu maight have a bigger group using them08:52
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rideoutErtain: in synaptic you can select any available version08:52
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ErtainMaybe I should then select the older libqt3-mt with Synaptic?08:53
rideoutErtain: that might do it for you08:53
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eduI wanna change my computer workgroup, how could I do this?08:54
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rideoutErtain: right click on the package, choose propeties then select the versions tab08:55
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eduhow to share files between Linux and Windows machines the easy way?09:00
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raphinkedu: use samba09:00
raphink!samba09:00
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:00
raphinkde janeiro09:00
sotiredI just finished installing kubuntu, and i am more than impressed. However, I have a second hard drive with all my music on it and i a unable to mount it.09:00
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eduraphink: I'm on it09:01
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eduraphink: but XP can't see my shared folders09:01
raphinkah, too bad09:01
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raphinkI cn't help you on this side09:01
raphinkI don' thave windows ;)09:01
eduraphink: I don't know how to change computer workgroup, either09:01
raphinkedu: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf09:02
raphinkor .cf don't remember09:02
monomaniacpatCan anyone tell me how to get LAME to encode properly?09:02
eduraphink: conf09:02
raphinkif you can't find how to change the workgroup, I can't do anything for you09:02
eduraphink: and how thrugh the GUI?09:02
eduraphink:  :D09:02
sotiredyou want to change the workgroup on the window$ machine?09:02
raphinkedu: maybe through systemsettings > Sharing but I doubt so09:02
raphinksotired: what's your filesystem?09:02
edusotired: nope, on the kubuntu machine09:03
sotiredntfs09:03
sotiredon the drive im trying to access09:03
raphinksotired: could you convert it to FAT32, using partition magic e.g. ,09:03
raphinkthat would help09:03
sotiredi just want to pull my music off of it and then wipe it09:03
sotiredwont i lose my music that way?09:03
raphinkah right09:03
raphinksotired: I think you can convert your filesystem with partition magic without losing data09:04
raphinkI _think09:04
raphink_09:04
raphinkhaven't tried it, diidn't have the occasion09:04
monomaniacpatkaudiocreator fails with LAME claiming it doesn't support the genre (americana)09:04
raphinkbut as I'm sure you're an honnest multimedia consumer, you must have the original CDs with you and must be able to encode them in ogg directly09:04
raphink:)09:04
sotiredi dont think i can use partition magic on this machine09:04
sotiredha09:04
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sotiredso there is absolutly no way to mount an ntfs partition?09:05
raphinksure there is sotired09:05
sotiredoh09:05
raphinkjust the same way you mount another partition09:05
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: i had same mesg yesterrday..LAME doen not support genre "misc" LOL09:05
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trappistexcept it will be read-only09:05
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raphinksudo mount -t ntfs /dev/yourpartition /your/mounting/point09:06
edudo I need to create accounts on my kubuntu machine with same name & password than the windows accounts?09:06
heinkel_111i wonder if LAME is really emo?09:06
sotiredthank you raphink09:06
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rideoutsotired: i have this in my /etc/fstab: /dev/sda2       /mnt/winc       ntfs-fuse    user,noauto,ro,umask=000    0       009:06
rideoutof course you need to set up ntfs-fuse09:06
raphinkrideout: it is a bad idea to use /mnt/winc09:06
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raphinkthis doesn't respect the LSB hierarchy standards09:07
trappistraphink: why?09:07
raphinknot that I see anyone respecting it09:07
trappistah.09:07
sotiredi only need to access it long enough to grab my music and a few backups, then im going to wipe it09:07
raphinkbut I care that it is followed somehow ;)09:07
raphinkotherwise there's no point in using /media09:07
furgu!SWAT09:07
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:07
monomaniacpatheinkel_111: any ideas? I'm just uding the genre specified by CDDB :?09:08
rideouthttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse09:08
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: yeah it is quite easy to work around it unless you are hung up about the genre09:08
h3sp4wnfurgu: Are you trying to enable swat ? It run's from inetd (which needs to be installed and running)09:08
monomaniacpatheinkel_111: OK, what are acceptable genres?09:09
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: i think you have a file>edit record option09:09
furguno h3sp4wn, I just saw a message and wanted to see what exactly it is09:09
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: just select from drop down menu in there09:09
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: can you find it?09:09
heinkel_111monomaniacpat: i have norwegian version, maybe some other menu names09:10
h3sp4wnfurgu: Its the official web interface for samba (Best to just edit smb.conf though its pretty well documented)09:10
furguyah thx h3sp4wn09:10
BoSJoAll: Trying to use adept, nomatter what i try to get it tells me that it encountered an error and/or it would brake packages?? any ideas09:10
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furguBoSJo, try installing with apt-get, does it give any more information?09:11
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furguBoSJo, sudo apt-get install <package>09:11
furguBoSJo, from a terminal BTW09:12
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monomaniacpatheinkel_111: I'll have a look09:12
BoSJofurgu: tried that, nothong much happends09:12
furguBoSJo, whats the message?  Please paste09:12
TheFactionhello guys09:12
h3sp4wnBoSJo: try sudo dpkg -C09:12
h3sp4wnBoSJo: Should tell you what packages are broken09:12
furguBoSJo, there is a way to fix dependency errors, apt-get always tells me how to do it09:12
furgu--resolve or something09:12
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TheFactionhey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play09:13
osh_Is there an apt equivialent to "rpm -qv *" meaning verify all installed packages on the system.09:13
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robotgeekosh_: what does verify do?09:14
BoSJoh3sp4wn : mfc8420lpr           Brother lpr Printer Definitions09:14
TheFactionhey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play09:14
BoSJoh3sp4wn: says it's broken09:14
h3sp4wnBoSJo: Do you have a brother printer ?09:15
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osh_robotgeek: checks that the package is installed properly, checks md5 and signature of package, checks if config-files have been changed. Perhaps some more that I don't remember right now.09:15
BoSJoh3sp4wn: yes, tried to install it yesterday, no luck09:15
BoSJoh3sp4wn: used a .deb09:15
h3sp4wnBoSJo: sudo dpkg -P mfc8420lpr09:16
robotgeekosh_: apt-get check , maybe. more in man apt-get09:16
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h3sp4wnBoSJo: You don't want to use debs that aren't made for kubuntu09:16
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BoSJoh3sp4wn: someone told me it would be ok, guess not :-) it tells me to install before uninstalling09:17
TheFactionhey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play09:17
robotgeek!codecs09:17
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:17
h3sp4wnBoSJo: sudo aptitude purge mfc8420lpr09:17
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phinhello09:19
BoSJoh3sp4wn: same thing, it is in very bad state, should install befor uninstalling09:19
osh_robotgeek: no apt-get check from what I can see. I'll have a look in the manpages. Just hoping that someone might know and answer quicker than a manpage.09:19
BoSJoh3sp4wn: can't i just remove the print driver from some list somewhere?09:20
fiyawerx!firefox09:20
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins09:20
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h3sp4wnBoSJo: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P mfc8420lpr09:21
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h3sp4wnBoSJo: The only way to fix it is thru apt09:21
TheFactionok i found that i need a plugin to play my mp3s09:22
TheFactionand i typed in this into the terminal: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad yet it didnt install09:22
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Jack1hi where would i find sth about making grip faster? i read a wiki about dapper but cant find it again, anyone knows?09:24
furgu<TheFaction>, how do you know it didn't install?  what errors/messages are you getting?09:24
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fiyawerxanyone have aproblem where konquerer just seems to stop loading images on a webpage?09:24
TheFaction<furgu> i get this :E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad09:25
eliesup guyz09:25
lucaswhat?09:25
elieany1 tried the new ati driverz?09:25
LeeJunFanfiyawerx: nope. But I did have such a problem when I had a bad network card in a router.09:25
fiyawerxLeeJunFan: seems to work fine in firefox, strange09:25
lucasHello, I speak french!!!09:25
furgu<TheFaction>, do "sudo apt-get update" then try install again09:26
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fiyawerx!source09:26
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:26
fiyawerx!easysource09:26
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:26
bam_elie, let us know how it turns out(ru using breezy or dapper?)09:26
trappistTheFaction: I think you want gstreamer0.10-mad09:26
_froud_Hi, have not installed Kubuntu in a while. Does Kubuntu install Firefox by default or use Konqueror as the default for Web Browser?09:27
trappistassuming you're using dapper09:27
furguelie, are you using GL applications?  You might save yourself some heartache and wait awhile if you don't need it...09:27
fiyawerxanyone have any issues using source-o-matic?09:27
TheFaction<furgu> will i be able to do it on the live cd?09:27
eliedapper09:27
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eliei play openGL games09:28
lucasgood byee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:28
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furguTheFaction, no idea... you are using a live cd for this?  maybe try it... can't hurt09:28
furguelie, what games do you play?09:28
elieut2004 x64+wolfenstein+ss09:29
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furgusweet09:29
eliejust begun with linux yesterday09:29
edu_Hi09:29
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TheFaction<furgu>how do i put up large pieces of text?09:29
furgumight consider a different GFX card next time you upgrade, everyone complains about ATI support elie09:30
furguI lost the link TheFaction... what are you trying to put?09:30
eliethats y iam asking,i just saw the new ati driverz on ati site09:30
Wodgerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:30
furguthx Wodger09:30
Jack1hi guys amarok suddenly returns no engine can beloaded??09:30
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Wodgershould be in the topic that should be shown depending on your irc client09:31
edu_Does anyone knows if xgl is going to support radeon free drivers?09:31
furguguess you could try it elie, I know the ubuntu Nvidia driver doesn't play well with the Nvidia provided driver so it might cause more problems but like I said no experience with ATI09:32
TheFaction<furgu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1671009:32
rideoutJack1: are you using xine?09:32
h3sp4wnedu: I think it does already - or atleast aiglx definately does09:32
Jack1rideout yes first it said it cant find xine, and would use another engine, now it says it finds nothing09:32
furguTheFaction, you need to use sudo09:32
edu_aiglx? what's that?09:33
phingrrrr, my direct rendering no longer works under i81009:33
phin:-(09:33
furgu"sudo apt-get ....."09:33
edu_sorry, i'm a little noob heheh09:33
TheFaction<furgu> i did09:33
furguTheFaction, or you might need to close some graphical package managers like Synaptic09:33
furguor you may be running two apt- things at the same time09:33
Jack1furgu is there a fast ripper that doesnt lose quality because of being fast? grip is so slow...09:34
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furguJack1, have you tried Monkey audio?>09:34
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Jack1furgu ..no worth a try?09:34
furgunevermind... its only windows09:34
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furgu!lossless09:34
ubotuI know nothing about lossless09:35
TheFaction<furgu> still doesnt work09:35
Jack1furgu i used foobar2000 there09:35
furguMaybe it doesnt work from livecd TheFaction, don't know sorry09:35
JP_PIALASSEhello09:35
elieIt say: POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support is required for 3D applications,what is psox?09:35
froudDoes Kubuntu install Firefox by default or must the user install it afterwards?09:35
furguEver tried oggflac Jack1?09:36
JP_PIALASSEyou have to install it09:36
furguelie, POSIX is a standard09:36
furguelie, where are you seeing this?09:36
Jack1furgu i cannot use ogg (though idlike to) cause of my ipod09:36
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elieon ati site---->https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18.html#17268609:36
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Wodgerthen probably mp3 realisticly09:36
furguelie, shouldnt worry about that yet09:37
fiyawerxhmm, anyone else use cipherphunks repositories?09:37
[TSK] I've seen Monkey's Audio support for Linux.  It's not Windoze only.09:37
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eliek thnx09:37
furguelie, ubuntu supports POSIX... should be no problem09:37
Gentilbonsoir09:37
Jack1guys my amarok says it has noengine...09:37
furguthnks [TSK]  didnt know that09:37
[TSK] I'm not sure about using it in Ubuntu, but I have used Monkey's Audio under Mandriva and it plays all my old MA files I copied over from my old Windoze install.09:38
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Gentilhi09:38
[TSK] I haven't tried encoding to MA under Linux yet, but I'm sure I can find a way.09:38
lyynxHello I customize Eterm ,with no buttonbar,but how to save this theme.please help09:38
furguJack1, have you thought about installing RockBox on your IPod?09:38
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Jack1furgu i had even linux on it.... but i had trouble with gtkpod (with the partitions) though i uninstalled it again..probably no now..too much stress09:39
eliewhat is universe section?09:39
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JP_PIALASSEi have a problem with amarok : it doesn't play anything , just says the playlist is ended09:40
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furguelie, some packages have different licenses so live in different places09:40
edu_hey jp_pialasse09:40
edu_i think you must install xine-extracodecs09:40
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Jack1amarok says xine cannot find audio drivers therefore it cannot be loaded, loading void engine instead, but it worked all the day! and now not09:41
eliehow 2 enable it?09:41
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JP_PIALASSEedu> thanks i try09:41
edu_you must have the multiverse repository activated, too09:41
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[TSK] JP_PIALASSE: You might want to check your engines and make sure you are using a good one.  Xine is the one I personally prefer.  Might also want to check your collection and make sure that Amarok knows where your music files are found.  May also want to make sure your music is in a format the Xine engine understands.09:41
eliehow 2 enable it?09:41
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JP_PIALASSEedu> it is but it doesnt find09:42
edu_wait a second09:42
edu_well, i can't use adept now, is downloading packages...09:42
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edu_does you have all the repositories activatee?09:43
[TSK] I'm really finding Amarok to be by FAR the best music player/manager I've ever used.  Nothing else even remotely compares...  Even if it doesn't work quite right at first, it's worth the efforts it takes to get it all running right.09:43
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eliehow 2 enable universe section?09:43
JP_PIALASSE[TSK] > xine is ok, i just click on the file and it open, it is the same probleme with radio streaming,  i'va tried a lot of mp3 vbr and cbr09:43
edu_go to /etc/apt/source.list09:44
fiyawerxcan i pay someone to go through and re-tag about 16000 mp3s? heh09:44
edu_with kate as root09:44
Jack1do sudo kedit /etc/fstab and remove the hashmarks at the beginning of the line elie09:44
furguhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages?action=show&redirect=UniversePackages09:44
furguelie ^^^09:44
edu_and uncomment it at the list09:44
JP_PIALASSEedu_> it seems all, i hav e added all manually09:44
Jack1elie sorry i mean /etc/apt/sources.list09:44
JP_PIALASSEalready done this morning09:44
Jack1what do i do : amarok no engine can be loaded?09:46
[TSK] fiyawerx: Heh...  I've finally just finished retagging my MP3s using Amarok.  Every single album I have is all organized and has an album cover image stored in the folder with it.  It's SO NICE to be able to find and play my music when and how I want...  8)09:46
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paolo_italianiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii09:46
[TSK] It's WAY nice too to be able to stash all my CDs away in the closet and never have to touch them again...  8)09:46
furgu!it09:46
fiyawerx[TSK] : yeah, most of mine are in ots format, i need to unconvert them all back to mp309:46
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:46
furgu!bs09:47
ubotuI know nothing about bs09:47
fiyawerx[TSK] : and there's literally about 16500 at last count heh09:47
elieso no 1 here has a ati vga card?09:47
furguATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI09:47
elie:)09:47
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furguHELP ZOMG MY ATI CARD IS MELTING09:47
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eliewhat fglrx ru using?09:48
furguwho?09:48
elieu have ati ,no?09:48
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furguI have no stinking ATI09:48
furgu!ati09:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:48
furguI have NVidia09:48
eliek09:48
furgusry09:48
furgu!universe09:49
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:49
fiyawerxi just did the install nvidia-glx via apt-get for mine, worked like a charm09:49
furguI know fiyawerx nvidia is easy we need an atian09:49
matthewdoes anyone have much experience dealing with Kvpnc?09:50
edu_JP_PIALASSE, perhaps the package name is another... search for xine and then look for something likce extra codecs09:51
Jack1hallo my amarok says: xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.09:51
Jack1what shall i do?09:51
edu_mhhh09:52
edu_search in google ubuntu restricted formats09:52
edu_and you'll have the howto09:53
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furgu!edubuntu09:54
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org09:54
furgu!xubuntu09:54
ubotuXubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop09:54
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furguXFCE!!!!09:54
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furguOr as I like to call it, X-Feces09:54
h3sp4wn!e-1709:55
ubotuI know nothing about e-1709:55
h3sp4wn!e1709:55
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.09:55
fiyawerxoh that reminds me, i want to try xfce09:55
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fiyawerxif you install the xubuntu-desktop from kubuntu, you can run apps like konversation in xfce right?09:56
fiyawerxaltho that makes me feel dirty09:57
furguXFCE is great, runs really great over FreeNX09:57
furgufiyawerx, I think you can just install the xfce package09:57
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fiyawerxfurgu: not using freenx anymore, but using nomachins server /client, even kde is running fine over it for me mostly09:57
fiyawerxfurgu: cept some animations and whatnot09:57
furgufreenx + kde = crazy slow for me09:58
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fiyawerxim connecting to a cable connection, i set the slider down to isdn09:58
fiyawerxand everything runs fine09:58
furgufiyawerx, does the nomachines server cost monies?09:58
fiyawerxno, the new version is free for 2 simultaneous connections i believe09:58
furguwhat are the advantages to using it?09:59
edusystem:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running09:59
fiyawerxand installs extremely easy09:59
edusystem:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running... HELP!09:59
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fiyawerxwell, i tried for 2 days to get freenx running with no success, then saw that they release a new server/clients versions i think, tried that and it installed in about 30 seconds up and running09:59
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fiyawerxi've never successfully used freenx so can't really say09:59
furguoh, yes the freenx can be a pain to install09:59
furgubut I already got it working so no big deal09:59
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fiyawerxyeah, i love it tho, in general10:00
JP_PIALASSEedu> i can see it on the repo but it dont find it10:00
fiyawerxi might just keep kde for running at home and use xfce for connecting from work maybe10:00
fiyawerxwill see how much faster it is for me10:00
fiyawerxi mean the apps menu and whatnot on kde is almost realtime10:00
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furguI think KDE uses some screen transitions which makes it slow10:01
kronozhow does the kubuntu bootsplash work? bootsplash.org kernel patch or using something like splashy?10:01
fiyawerxif i drag a window around i notice some lag, but other than that nothing10:01
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eduplease, help: system:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running10:01
furguif it werent for those it would be better10:01
furguedu, PANIX10:01
koshI just use ssh for remote access no speed problems with that10:01
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elie_which is better,gnom or k?10:01
fiyawerxyeah, like the panel bubbles that pop up when you mouseover things were slow, i disabled those10:01
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furguthanks kosh, what wonderful advice... so insightful10:01
fiyawerxi even had e17 working over it, but it was glitchy10:01
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koshssh -X username@server and you can run whatever you want10:02
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kronozelie_: your in a kde distro channel, what do you think....10:02
koshI have been doing that for about 10 years10:02
furgukosh, REALLY??? OMG WOW10:02
elie_lol10:02
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furgukosh, you forgot -C flag10:02
furguyour slow kosh, you are slowwww10:02
kronozelie_: kde becuase qt is much better than gtk10:02
elie_what is qt?10:03
furguQTips10:03
furgu!qt10:03
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.10:03
furgu!gtk10:03
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications10:03
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elie_i am using dapper 6.06 is it gnom or kde?10:03
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furguerm... yeah10:04
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guptaelie: Is it blue or brown?10:04
furguheh right on gupta... good call10:04
elie_brown10:04
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guptagnome10:05
furguewwww.... elie_ is the brown10:05
elie_lolk10:05
fiyawerxlol10:05
guptai.e ubuntu10:05
furguwrong channel elie_, get the hell out...10:05
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furguif you have a GNOME question ask #ubuntu tho elie_10:06
koshfurgu: I have compression in my ssh config10:06
fiyawerxi think you need to register to talk in #ubuntu, don't you?10:06
furgugood job kosh, good job10:06
furgudont think so... only register to send private message10:06
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furgu#ubuntu is krazy packed tho10:06
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furgu!ubuntu10:06
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome10:06
fiyawerxkosh: does that end up running as fast as nomachines client?10:06
furgu!#ubuntu10:07
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:07
MAW_awayanybody installed the new basket?10:07
furgufiyawerx, YES10:07
fiyawerxi thought the whole thing about !m was that its faster10:07
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furgufiyawerx, if you dont need the WM just use ssh -C -X10:07
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fiyawerxoh, i like having my desktop :)10:07
fiyawerxand im going from windows too10:07
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furguuse Cygwin then10:07
furguit has problems tho10:07
fiyawerxfor what?10:07
furgufor desktopless X10:08
fiyawerxoh, i don't know why I'd want desktopless X10:08
furgutunnel ssh compression shitnitz10:08
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fiyawerxi like my desktop10:08
fiyawerxotherwise i just use SecureCRT to ssh in when i need a console10:08
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furguNX clients use Cygwin... I hate NX screws up emacs tho10:08
fiyawerxI'm using nxclient for windows10:08
koshyou can use the wm even remotely if you want10:08
furguCYGWIN I sed use cygwin10:09
koshI used to use launch it from other unix systems and just have it start x with just a terminal window and then just run startkde10:09
fiyawerxeh, im lost, but this works10:09
koshfiyawerx: I never had any slowdowns10:09
koshfiyawerx: however I have always used it on high speed networks10:09
fiyawerxyeah, im limited by my cable at home upload rate10:10
fiyawerxwhich is like 50KBps10:10
furguFreeNX is for slower connections kosh, they use trickery10:10
furgusome call it magic10:10
furguI say its the devil's work personally10:10
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fiyawerxyeah, i figured since NX was made for dialup and whatnot it'd work fine over cable10:10
fiyawerxand it has so far10:11
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fiyawerxas for my connection here, Download Speed: 22153 kbps (2769.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 2903 kbps (362.9 KB/sec transfer rate)10:11
fiyawerxi just wish i had that at home, too10:11
ozmodiarHi. It Seems I can't get Konqueror understand that I've selected double-clicking mode in settings for the mouse. And I can't find any settings for that in Konqueror either. Sorry for my english.10:11
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furgukosh, freenx also does sound I think10:13
|lostbyte|Anyone here using ymessenger ?10:13
cox377no10:13
cox377is it any good?10:13
furgunot me10:13
furguwhat is it?10:13
furgu!ymessenger10:13
ubotuI know nothing about ymessenger10:13
furgu!info ymessenger10:13
ubotuPackage ymessenger does not exist in dapper10:13
furguLIES10:13
|lostbyte|I have package problem..10:13
furguPackage ymessenger does not exist in dapper10:13
cox377i dont suppose anyone can help, but i copied the times new roman fonts from a windows box and installed them into the system and the personal drive yet when i try and change in firefox they dont appear to be there10:14
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|lostbyte|i have it..10:14
|lostbyte|lolz10:14
kronozdo you mean yahoo messenger...10:14
JP_PIALASSEwhat is the command to install .deb  ?10:14
|lostbyte|yes..10:14
kronozJP_PIALASSE: `su` then `dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb`10:15
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JP_PIALASSE(i use to work with red hat :) )10:15
JP_PIALASSEtnaks10:15
kronozJP_PIALASSE: or right click on the file > install kubuntu package (something like then)10:15
|lostbyte|it says..10:15
|lostbyte|ymessenger: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0) but it is not going to be installed10:15
|lostbyte|              Depends: libssl0.9.6 but it is not installable10:15
|lostbyte|              Depends: xlibs (> 3.3.6) but it is not installable10:15
furguinstall msttcorefonts,  cox37710:15
cox377does anyone here know a command to update open office?10:15
cox377furgu: cheers i shall10:15
furgusudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade10:16
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GullyFoyleclick on "My .Debs" lmao10:16
senseiWhy is a lot of packages greyed out in Adept Installer? Like Evolution and libxine-extracodecs ?10:16
furguif there is an update, updates everything cox37710:16
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furgucox377, are you using 6.06?10:16
cox377"sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" furgu?10:17
fiyawerxfurgu: yeah, nx does multimedia10:17
cox377i am yeh10:17
furguthat will update everything10:17
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furgugood to do that periodically10:17
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senseiAnd all my sources when I do apt-get update returns Ign or "Could not connect", even though I can connect to them and fetch the Packages.gz manually via wget :O10:17
ozmodiarDidn't anyone have the solution to my question ^^ (yes i have tried too google). I've would really appreciate it.10:17
furgu6.06 has OO2 which is good, unless you know you need a specific version keep to the 6.06 packages10:18
furguozmodiar, your question is lost, ask again10:18
bigBob hello10:18
furguoh nevermind10:18
ozmodiarOkay.10:18
ozmodiarIt Seems I can't get Konqueror understand that I've selected double-clicking mode in settings for the mouse. And I can't find any settings for that in Konqueror either. Sorry for my english.10:18
furguozmodiar, double klick what exactly?10:18
ozmodiarOn folders..10:19
JP_PIALASSEhttp://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb was the solution !10:19
furguright-o... 1 sec10:19
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JP_PIALASSEi don't understand why the apt get don't find it10:19
GullyFoylehey that was my first time using /lastlog in irssi, to see what ozmodiar's q was... kewl10:19
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furgu!lastlog10:20
ubotuI know nothing about lastlog10:20
furgu!/lastlog10:20
ubotuI know nothing about /lastlog10:20
furgunice10:20
GullyFoylecan you set double-click application specific? or is it kde-wide, so to speak?10:20
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sotiredgrrr. Anyone here ever have problems streaming music from a windows share using amarok?10:21
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heinkel_111how does a notebook with AMD Turion 64 and ATI RAdeon Xpreess 200 work under kubuntu?10:21
furguozmodiar, you tried System Settings -> Mouse?10:21
heinkel_111are there drivers for the ATI Radeon Xpress 200?10:21
cox377furgu: ahh all i wanted to do was to update to 2.0.210:21
ozmodiarGullyFoyle: uhm, I guess its KDE, but i'm not sure...10:21
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ozmodiarI'm new too linux.10:22
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furgucox377, 2.02 is the version in repos, just do the commands I told you if its not 2.02 already10:22
GullyFoylefurgu: i'm using a console client, irssi, for IRC, and /lastlog <string> gives all the msg's with <string> in them10:22
furgu<ozmodiar>, Is your screen Brown or Blue?10:22
Jack1furgu i get mad amarok cannot start the xine engine!!!10:23
cox377cheers10:23
furguyah I figured it out, GullyFoyle thanks10:23
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ozmodiarHehe, yes i'm running KDE if that was your question. :)10:23
sotiredgrrr. Anyone here ever have problems streaming music from a windows share using amarok?10:23
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furguyes ozmodiar, click on the start menu, go to System Settings10:23
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furguin Systems Settings click on Mouse10:23
furguthe click the box that says Double-Click to open files and folders10:24
ozmodiarYes, but i've have already done that...10:24
ozmodiarAnd it's not working...10:24
furguand no luck?10:24
ozmodiarNop10:24
cox377E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)10:24
cox377E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?10:24
furgusorry worked for me dunno10:24
cox377fo u know what that means furgu?10:24
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sotired:(10:25
furgucox377, is another process using the lock?  Are you running a graphical program like KPackage or Synaptic or Adept?10:25
cox377there isnt any other adept running10:25
furgucox377, did you use sudo?10:25
cox377nah nothings open10:25
cox377yeh did sudp10:25
cox377sudo10:25
furgudunno...10:25
noaXesshi back10:25
furguyur fuct10:25
cox377lol10:25
cox377:s10:25
cox377let me restart kde10:25
furgucox377, there must be something else that locked it10:25
furgupht10:26
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cox377back10:26
furguHey!10:26
furgumate10:27
cox377this is werid10:27
furguare you from england or australia?10:27
cox377when i do sudo its not asking me for my password10:27
cox377me/10:27
cox377?10:27
sotiredim trying to stream music from another machien in my house, i can access the share, view the files, copy them, delete them, but if i try to play them in kaffeine or amarok they crash. Any ideas?10:27
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furguyes10:27
furgusudo does that10:27
cox377England man10:27
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furguits cool like that10:27
cox377normally i just do sudo -i10:27
furguaight cool... just across the pond eh10:27
cox377haha10:27
cox377US>?10:27
furguyah10:27
cox377how come u narrowed it down to UK Aus?10:28
furguits the cheers thing10:28
cox377haha10:28
furguany luck now?10:28
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qalimashttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16714 -- fresh install of dapper, can anyone help?10:29
Kadranhi, does any one know how to convert a *.sunos5 or *.ux11 to *.deb?10:29
cox377yeh went through it10:29
cox377but it didnt update open office which is strange10:29
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furguwhat version do you have now/10:30
furgu?10:30
Philip5qalimas: wrong pathnames10:30
cox3772.010:31
qalimasPhilip5: can you help me fix them?10:31
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kronozKadran: i don't think it would work, if the .sunos5 or ux11 was not compiled under a linux kernel10:31
fiyawerxanyone know offhand what the startup command for xfce is10:31
furguhow can you tell, did you go to Help -> About?10:32
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cox377lol10:32
sotiredi prayed to jesus for the answer, but i havent heard back...so maybe u ppl could help me....10:33
method|i have a hard drive with a fat 32 partition. Kubuntu is miscalculating this drives free space. Anyone know why?10:33
Kadrankronoz: i need to try microsoft internet explorer for linux and the only pakages i have are for solaries or hp-ux and no source code10:33
cox377i was being fooled by the start up screen10:33
cox377;)10:33
method|it says that it has like 3 gigs of free space when it actually has 2010:33
furguthought so :-)10:33
furgucheers mate10:33
Philip5qalimas: add so the urls look like this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/10:33
cox377lol10:33
kronozKadran: i didn't think they has ever made ie for linux '_' i don't know sorry, try alien maybe10:34
cox377where yah from then??10:34
furguI am a Masshole10:34
noaXessif i want diasable a cronjob in root's crontab.. i only need to put a # in front of the line, right?10:34
cox377masshole?10:34
furguMassachusets10:34
furgubean town10:34
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apokryphosnoaXess: yes10:34
qalimasPhilip5: They do look like that10:34
cox377kadran any chance u can get the IE tab extention for firefox working?10:34
cox377cool10:34
noaXessapokryphos, you.. thanks.. :)10:34
qalimasor all of them?10:34
Philip5qalimas: no you don't have /ubuntu10:34
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sotiredim trying to stream music from another machien in my house, i can access the share, view the files, copy them, delete them, but if i try to play them in kaffeine or amarok they crash. Any ideas?10:35
qalimasyeah, in my sources.list it does10:35
Kadrankronoz: i need any web browser that can view trident layout engine and firefox use gecko so it will not work10:35
qalimasunless it needs two ubuntu/10:35
heinkel_111sotired...get any errormessages while crashing?10:35
cox377I.E tab function for FF?10:35
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heinkel_111sotired: did you start from konsole?10:36
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furgu/usr/share/doc/xfce4/README.Debian @ <fiyawerx>10:36
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sotiredno10:36
furgu<kronoz> they made IE for linux10:36
sotiredi clciked the .mp3 and selected open with amarok10:37
heinkel_111:(10:37
fiyawerxfurgu: found it, it was startxfce410:37
qalimasPhilip5: this is a fresh ubuntu install, thats why itsgot me so confused10:37
furguhttp://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html10:37
furguIE4Linux ^^^^10:37
qalimasduring install, it even told me it couldnt contact the security reps so it commented them out10:37
heinkel_111sotired: try starting amaroK from konsole10:37
sotiredjust type amarok?10:37
heinkel_111uhm yea or something like that10:38
heinkel_111which amarok10:38
heinkel_111or10:38
heinkel_111which amaroK10:38
furguNo IE tabs in FF tho10:38
furgujust straight IE10:38
heinkel_111i guess should give you the path to the executable10:38
heinkel_111if amarok or amaroK does not work straight away10:38
cox377whats that furgu?10:38
furguIE4Linux10:38
Philip5qalimas: then it's a bit strange10:39
sotiredwhatever one came witht he latest release10:39
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cox377i just installed the IE Tab on my firefox10:39
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furguwhere?  FF extension?10:39
D4m4gehi10:40
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guptaI love kubuntu!!  http://h1.ripway.com/chesss/kubuntu-irc.png10:40
cox377yeh10:40
guptaMy first extremely-useful script :)10:40
D4m4geI have a problem with Kmplayer10:41
D4m4geit does not play any type of media10:41
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furguIE Tab is not available for Linux.10:41
furguLIARS!!!!!!!!!10:41
furguj/k10:41
D4m4gekaffeine does, and i have all necessary codecs installed10:41
qalimasPhilip5: Yeah, you're telling me10:41
sotiredstill effing crashes10:42
qalimasi notice it only on this machine though, any other it works fine, i can reinstall ubuntu, kubuntu, the ubuntu server, xubuntu, they all do it all the time on this computer10:42
cox377yeh, but if you go other versions, clicked on the latest then it installed10:42
cox377wheather it works or not is another mater, i'm truing to find a site that doesnt work in firefox yet10:42
qalimasits a 32bit install on a 64bit processor, could that be it?10:43
fiyawerxwow, xfce does run fast10:43
fiyawerxi wish they kept all their icons in their menus separate sometimes tho hehe, now i have a boatload10:43
sotiredthis is driving me  nuts10:43
furguI see me in a PNG!  Thx gupta10:43
cox377what u saying furgu? does it check out?10:43
qalimasnevermind, i cant take this, ive tried to get help with this for so long, weeks, and it never works out10:44
furgucox377, no IE Tab in linux, Windowz only10:44
qalimasi like ubuntu and all, but i just have to go back to arch10:44
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qalimasthanks anyway Philip5 =)10:44
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cox377can someone give me a site that doesnt work in FF?10:44
sotiredi cant think of any10:44
sotiredgoat.cx .....10:44
sotiredjk10:44
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D4m4gedoes anyone use kmplayer? even in konqueror to play medias?10:45
furgucox377, any site that uses ActiveX?10:45
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guptacox377: Try browsing on msn.com , something gotta be broken10:45
cox377am i not wrong in saying that active X is installable pluggin for FF?10:45
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furgufor linux?10:46
guptanoway10:46
cox377maybe not10:46
cox377everything seems to work on the msn site10:47
cox377:s10:47
D4m4geam I transparent or what? oO10:47
cox377i have d4m4age10:47
D4m4gecox377 you have? kmplayer?10:47
daschuwhen i go to Adept Updater, it tells me that I can't upgrade kdm (X Display manager for KDE) because it is broken... i cannot remove it or anything... any help?10:47
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cox377mplayer?10:47
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D4m4geno, Kmplayer10:48
cox377nope10:48
D4m4gei cant understand why it does not work10:48
D4m4gei reinstalled it so many times10:48
D4m4gei have all plugins and codecs to play all type of files10:48
martin_hi guys, bit of a problem here, i've just installed XGL and ever since the Display module in system settings refuses to load, any ideas?10:48
D4m4gebut it just does not start playing10:48
guptaI can't see any man pages. Though they are certainly there on my pc10:48
furguD4m4ge, what is the issue you are experiencing?10:48
furguwhat is the behavior?10:48
furguD4m4ge, error mesgs?10:49
D4m4gefurgu when i try to open a file, or play a media in konqueror, this is what happens :10:49
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D4m4gehttp://www.image-dream.com/image.php?image=784625baac148e392512344014f96167.png&pseudo=anonym10:49
guptaError: no man pages found for tar. see man 7 undocumented for help10:49
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|lostbyte|gupta, man tar 710:50
guptasame error :(10:50
furguD4m4ge, you have Xine installed?10:51
D4m4gefurgu yeah10:51
guptanope now it adds "what manual pages do you want from section 7"10:51
D4m4gehere is what happens in the console when i try to play afile : http://pastebin.ca/7425610:51
|lostbyte|gupta, sudo apt-get install manpages10:52
D4m4gexine works great in kaffeine10:52
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gupta|lostbyte|: k , trying..10:52
kubcan't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"10:52
D4m4gebut i would like to be able to launch video files with konqueror's Kmplayer plugin10:52
D4m4geand it does not work :/10:52
sotiredwill amaroK only play local files?10:53
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kubcan't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"10:53
insanekaneubotu: tell D4m4ge about RestrictedFormats10:53
KuLover!ati10:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:53
gupta|lostbyte|: manpages already instatlled10:53
insanekaneubotu: tell D4m4ge about Restricted Formats10:53
D4m4gekmplayer: playingStopped 0x81236d810:54
insanekane!tell D4m4ge about Restricted Formats10:54
insanekane!RestrictedFormats10:54
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats10:54
furguHave you tried AVI, D4m4ge?10:54
guptaalso This file exists: /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz10:54
D4m4geavi works in kaffeine, but not in kmplayer10:54
insanekanegupta: man tar doesnt work ?10:54
D4m4gexvidf, mpeg4...etc10:54
D4m4ge-f10:54
guptanope10:54
insanekanewierd10:54
D4m4geindeed :)10:55
insanekanegupta: does man:/ work in konqueror ?10:55
|lostbyte|furgu, man pages are in /usr/share/man/man1/ for tar10:55
kubcan't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"10:55
sotiredwill amaroK only play local files?10:55
gupta|lostbyte|: I removed konquereor10:55
cox377furgu, maybe you can help me with one last thing, when ever i hit any of the arrow keys or the nine keys which inc del, end, etc kubuntu tries to take a damn screen shot, can you or anyone else help me to turn screen shot off. I have uninstalled it but now it just opens the screen shot folder instead10:55
|lostbyte|gupta, WHAT !10:55
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guptaaptitude purge krusader10:55
guptaaptitude install krusader10:56
insanekanekub: try KsCD10:56
guptaI mean pirge konqueror10:56
furgucox377, is there an icon for screen shot in the menu bar?10:56
D4m4geI tried so man y times to --reinstall kmplayer and my codec packages10:56
D4m4gemany*10:56
D4m4gebut it did not help10:56
insanekaneD4m4ge: haha ... i'm in the very same position as you10:56
furgucox377, far right maybe10:56
sotiredwill amaroK only play local files?10:56
insanekaneD4m4ge: did the file work in an older version of kubuntu dapper ?10:56
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D4m4geinsanekane do you get the same error :  kmplayer: playingStopped 0x81236d810:57
D4m4ge?10:57
cox377furgu, nothing mate10:57
furguD4m4ge, try completely removing with Synaptic, that fixed my koffice problem10:57
D4m4geinsanekane i had to reinstall a few days ago caus i changed my hard drive10:57
D4m4gebut it worked before10:57
insanekaneD4m4ge: that "error" is normal ... the problem i believe is that the codecs are not being used properly10:57
kubinsanekane: I can't try KsCD 'cause the audio CD is unmounted10:57
D4m4gefurgu i did10:57
furguavi is a resitricted format?10:57
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D4m4geok insanekane10:58
insanekanefurgu: avi is a container format ... it may contain a restricted format10:58
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|lostbyte|gupta, have you tar install ?10:58
cox377"locate:ksnapshot" furgu, thats the folder it opens10:58
furgucox377, maybe restart x-server (ctrl-alt-backspace) - make sure everything is saved first10:58
sotiredwill amaroK only play local files?10:58
insanekanecox377: i think, you want to check khotkeys10:58
|lostbyte|sotired, nope ! t lays stream also.10:58
gupta|lostbyte|: I can't access any man pages10:58
kubinsanekane: the CD-rom should be mounted first10:59
cox377yeh, this is a general day to day thing furgu10:59
sotiredmine crashes evertime i try to stream10:59
cox377what do you mean insanekane?10:59
furgucheck hotkeys10:59
furgudunno10:59
furgusorry10:59
cox377what does that mean check hotkeys?10:59
furgu<insanekane>, where be the hot key?10:59
|lostbyte|gupta, in konqueror ?11:00
|lostbyte|opps sorry..11:00
|lostbyte|gupta, look in /usr/share/man/man1/11:00
insanekanecox377: k->system settings->regional and accessibility-><look at all the keyboards stuff>11:00
gupta|lostbyte|: That folder is well populated with *.gz files11:01
kubcan't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"11:01
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cox377cheers insanekane11:01
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[Nirvana] kub: something wrong with /etc/fstab11:02
[Nirvana] ?11:02
fiyawerxfurgu: wree you the one that said your using xfce over nx?11:02
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furguyah fiyawerx11:02
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insanekanegupta: k->system settings->regional and accessibility->input actions ... look at the tree in the middle ... you will see "ksnapshot" ... click it, and then select disable on the right11:02
furgu<fiyawerx>, let me guess, wrong window size?11:02
fiyawerxoh, no its working fine11:02
kub[Nirvana] : /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       011:02
furguah ok11:02
sotiredi guess im never going to get this one solved...11:02
insanekanesotired: try try try try again11:03
fiyawerxbut the #xubuntu channel is quiet, was just wondering if there was really a reason to use it instead of kde on a decent specced system11:03
zorglu1kub: iso9660 is for data cd, not audio cd11:03
fiyawerxdo you still use K apps?11:03
fiyawerxlike k3b/konversation?11:03
sotiredi have been11:03
zorglu1kub: i didnt follow the whole thing, just doing a remark :)11:03
kubzorglu1: sure, but udf is present too11:03
furgufiyawerx, as long as QT and GTK are installed you should be able to run about any KDE/Gnome app11:03
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insanekanei dont think you have to 'mount' an audio cd to play ...11:04
kubinsanekane: really?11:04
fiyawerxfurgu: nod, just wondering what ones you use really11:04
fiyawerxfurgu: as im pretty new to all of it, im still open for suggestions :)11:04
fiyawerxfurgu: im not set on one specific app like konversaiton for irc, etc..11:04
|lostbyte|gupta, man /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz11:04
furguI just use fxce over freenx because it is snapier11:04
fiyawerxbut like people were saying k3b is one of the best burners?11:05
kubinsanekane: I can't choose any CD device from KsCD...11:05
furguuse XChat for IRC tho11:05
fiyawerxamarok for players, etc..11:05
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wilsoneheh11:05
insanekanekub: yeah .. i am playing an audio cd right now ... and it isnt mounted11:05
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gupta|lostbyte|: That works!!, Thanks a lot11:05
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bobesponjahey all11:06
fiyawerxi dislike the whole multiple installs too, so for instance if im going to like xfce, i'll reinstall my system with xubuntu instead of kubuntu as a base11:06
|lostbyte|gupta, some thing wrong with the config file i guess..11:06
bobesponjais it possible to mount the kubuntu iso and istall it from there=?11:06
|lostbyte|gupta, /etc/manpath.config11:06
fiyawerxfor no other reason than im ocd about knowign there's stuff on there im not using, heh11:06
kubinsanekane: I don't know what to do, then11:06
furgu<fiyawerx>, dont use k3b or amorok, I am not a cool kid, KDE and XFCE can live side by side they wont fight... its not multiple installs of anything, just choice of WM no worries mate11:06
gupta|lostbyte|: ok, I'll check it out, though I don't remmeber modifying it. THanks again11:06
furguI install all WMs, what you think of that huh, wanna mess with me now?>11:07
|lostbyte|k11:07
fiyawerxfurgu: that and i'll need to clean out my menus, because xfce-desktop put like ALL the kde apps all over the place in its menus11:07
kubinsanekane: I am not happy with the idea of reinstalling the whole system  :(11:07
furguthats why they call it X-Feces yo11:07
insanekanekub: i dont think you have to really11:08
furguinsanekane, doesnt it 'automount'?11:08
insanekaneit may be some other problem11:08
insanekanefurgu: i dont think so11:08
furguit has to mount to access the filesystem11:08
insanekanekub: when you insert the audio cd ... do you get a dialog asking what you want to do with it ?11:08
furgumaybe not manually11:09
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kubinsanekane: that dialog appeared once yesterday... but never again11:09
insanekanekub: well, try it again ..11:09
insanekanekub: eject the CDROM and put it in aghain11:10
kubinsanekane: done, but nothing happens11:10
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furgu!eject11:11
ubotuI know nothing about eject11:11
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furgu!help11:11
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage11:11
furgu!tell me about help11:11
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SkrotFFSAny idea when dapper will get a newer kernel (i need uevent)?11:11
h3sp4wnNever11:11
SkrotFFSReally?11:12
furguSkrotFFS, probably best to compile your own kernel if you need some newer feature11:12
furguSkrotFFS, you may be waiting awhile11:12
insanekanekub: did you diable the dialog ?11:12
h3sp4wnSkrotFFS: Until edgy probably11:12
SkrotFFSI see :)11:12
furguSkrotFFS, there are some how-tos on the ubuntu forums, pretty easy actually11:12
kubinsanekane: I am not getting any dialog asking what I wanna do with the CD... I didn't disable that option11:13
SkrotFFSI know how to do my own kernel. It's just that the ubuntu-kernel works perfectly (except lacking of uevent)11:13
h3sp4wnIs uevent in 2.6.16 or 2.6.17 ?11:13
insanekanekub: k->System settings->Storage Media ... then select "Audio CD" in the combo box ... and then in the list box, see if any of the actions has a "(Auto Action)" after its name11:13
SkrotFFS2.6.1611:13
furguSkrotFFS, you may know how to compile on other systems but Ubuntu is special you may need to do it specially for ubuntu11:13
SkrotFFSAnd upwards I'd guess11:13
furguSkrotFFS, I tried to compile the standard way and got foobared11:14
h3sp4wn2.6.16 is pretty easy but 2.6.17 needs a newer udev to work properly11:14
SkrotFFSfurgu: Okay, let me rephrase: I've compiled my own kernel for kubuntu before :)11:14
furguok yay11:14
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SkrotFFSI needed some special stuff for my laptop (acpi+apic stuff)11:14
SkrotFFSBut now it works great with the default ubuntukernel11:14
h3sp4wnI am using http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/kernel/kernel-kanotix-current.zip (The source deb with the edgy udev)11:15
kubinsanekane: any action in the list has a Auto Action11:15
keyneI got a little question about kde: when i select an url with the mouse, i would like to have a menu or smth to open it with konqueror11:15
h3sp4wnSkrotFFS: The source deb is inside that zip (Has alot of performance related kernel patches and seems pretty stable - not crashed for me)11:16
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insanekanekub: hunh ?11:16
keyneanyone knows how to do that ?11:16
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SkrotFFSh3sp4wn: neat. I'll check it out later11:16
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kubinsanekane: sorry, there is not Auto Action selected11:17
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cox377insanekane: your a f**King legend mate.. do u know how sodding irratating it's been without being able to use those keys11:18
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdcan someone help me install wine on x64 kubuntu?>11:18
kubinsanekane: my system doesn't "detect" the audio CD when I put it in, that's why I am not seeing any dialog asking me what to do11:18
altprsonahi , im on breezy kubuntu, trying to either upgrade my kopete to the newest vers or install the yahoo messenger, both are driving me nuts.11:18
|lostbyte|n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, try ! #winehq11:19
altprsonaon kopete i have cascading dependency problems, and for the yahoo  messenger i have 1 dependency issue11:19
|lostbyte|altprsona, :( ymessenger has dependency problem..11:20
|lostbyte|altprsona, allthough there is a way.. but does'nt work for me..11:20
insanekanekub: exactly11:20
insanekanecox377: i can imagine11:20
cox377lol11:20
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n0ctuRnaL-fieNd|lostbyte|: i tried , nothing but assholes in that channel11:21
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h3sp4wnn0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Probably people who could help you though if you phrased your questions correctly11:22
thomas_how can i change the symbolic link from gcc from 4.0 to 3.4 ?11:23
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thomas_someone knows this ?11:23
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fiyawerxif you install something like xubuntu-desktop and all the packages it installs, can you uninstall them all just as easy? like apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop?11:24
|lostbyte|thomas_, ls -l  /usr/bin/gcc11:24
h3sp4wnthomas_: Don't bother - just use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.411:24
kubinsanekane: is it possible to install Kubuntu from a image stored in a server?11:24
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thomas_ok thank i will try it11:24
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kubis it possible to install Kubuntu from a image stored in a server?11:25
h3sp4wnthomas_: The rest of your system is built with gcc 4 (mostly or all I don't know) you don't want to change it permanently I don't think11:25
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h3sp4wnkub: Yes11:25
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|lostbyte|kub, i think its done throught ssh.11:26
thomas_ok thats the reason i couldnt remove the gcc 4.0 package :-) good to know11:26
ChefWillkub:11:26
ChefWill!netboot11:26
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues11:26
kubhow?11:26
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ChefWill^^^11:26
ErtainMy screensaver doesn't seem to work.  It's configured to go off after five minutes of being idle.  I'm using a regular screensaver; it doesn't require OpenGL stuff.  I think it's because I have a program running or processing.  Any clues?11:26
ChefWillhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot11:26
gazhello people11:26
MetaMorfoziSi need a nice image, with tux and kubuntu logo, anybody have an idea?11:27
Ertain!wacom11:27
ubotuI know nothing about wacom11:27
gazanyone know a gimp alternative, cso i'm used to working in photoshop and gimp just doesnt do it for me11:27
kubbooting from the CD? and then?11:27
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zorglu1gaz: you may try krita... it is simpler than gimp11:27
h3sp4wnmaking the partitions with fdisk and then using dd11:27
kdefreak:) its fixed11:27
ChefWillkrita stinks :P dont even bother11:27
thomas_how can i see what version is used when gcc is entered11:27
ChefWillgcc --version11:28
thomas_yeah11:28
thomas_but11:28
h3sp4wnthomas_: ./configure respects the CC and CXX environment variables11:28
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thomas_ok11:28
h3sp4wnthomas_: Unless you are using something with gcc hardcoded into the Makefile you would never need to change the symlink (I would just change the Makefile)11:29
Ertain!screensaver11:29
ubotuI know nothing about screensaver11:30
ChefWillLinux bluebook 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux11:30
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thomas_ok i have to search for the makefile because this is generated automatic from the install program11:30
kubI wanna reinstall Kubuntu but I want to keep all my data, is it possible? and how?11:31
kubfrom a server, if possible11:31
h3sp4wnthomas_: If you just do export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 && CXX=/usr/bin/g++-3.4 (then run ./configure again it should be fine)11:31
gatekeeperkub: use tar11:31
zorglu1kub, backup your data, reinstall, restore your data11:32
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zorglu1kub: no magic can be applied11:32
kubzorglu1: no, I wanna keep my current configuration11:32
zorglu1kub: ok you want to 'reinstall' or just update/upgrade ?11:33
kubzorglu1: just a reinstall-repair...11:33
kubzorglu1: some things are not working, I wanna repair them11:33
zorglu1kub: ok define reinstall11:33
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zorglu1kub: you have to help us help you :) describe precisely your problems :)11:34
yurany one know if we can have kde and at the same time gnom?thnx11:34
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zorglu1yur, you can11:34
kubzorglu1: reinstall = install all packages again, but keeping changes I made until now on my system11:34
kubzorglu1: something like that11:35
kubzorglu1: windows-reinstall style... :P11:35
yurhow can ido that,thnx11:35
zorglu1kub: why do you want to do that ?11:35
gatekeeperyur: you mean installed on the same system ?11:35
yurya11:35
zorglu1kub: what do you expect from it ?11:35
robotgeekkub: backup ~/11:35
zorglu1yur, something like 'sudo apt-get install kde-desktop gnome-desktop'11:36
robotgeekkub: also, dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt11:36
gatekeeperyur: have you installed ubuntu or kubuntu already or neither?11:36
kubzorglu1: well, I'm having problems with the audio system, cdrom, smb, etc... nothing important, but annoying (my install crashed)11:36
yurubuntu11:36
kubbut I don't wanna make a fresh install again11:36
zorglu1kub: you should :)11:36
zorglu1kub: if your installed crashed, reinstall from scratch11:37
zorglu1my advice :)11:37
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gatekeeperyur: I think it is apt-get install kdesktop hang on while I check...11:37
kubzorglu1: :) but I know it will crash again...11:37
yurk thnx11:38
kubzorglu1: always do11:38
zorglu1kub, you should try to fix the why it crash11:38
kubzorglu1: impossible to say11:38
kubzorglu1: it crash at 86% (installing basic packages)11:38
gatekeeperyur: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:38
zorglu1kub, ok reburn cd and check them :)11:39
zorglu1kub: smell like bad cd from here11:39
yurthnx gatekeeper it it D/n now11:39
kubzorglu1: that's why I wanna repair the system without making a fresh install11:39
gatekeeperyur: your welcome :-)11:39
zorglu1kub: my advice is 'it is clearly not a good idea' :)11:40
kubzorglu1: not possible, I tried from my CD-RW unit too... same situation11:40
zorglu1kub: 25years of computer here, this may give some credibility to my opinino :)11:40
kubzorglu1: I don't doubt it, my friend11:40
kubzorglu1: but I can do what I can do...11:41
zorglu1kub: have you checked the cd you burned ?11:41
h3sp4wnzorglu1: Someone else earlier's install also crashed at 86% I don't know whether that would be coincidence11:41
zorglu1kub, there are some option for that11:41
gatekeeperyur: you might find this usefull: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper11:41
TheHighChildoff hand, can someone tell me how to redirect my output to /dev/null? for example, all the crap I get when launching kate 'kate &' I would like to redirect to /dev/null. 'kate filename & > /dev/null' doesn't do it for me11:41
thomas_I have a problem with my shutdown and I know some other users out there in the net have this problem too11:41
kubzorglu1: I checked and it's ok11:41
zorglu1h3sp4wn: hmm the 86% seems to say no :(11:41
h3sp4wnthomas_: Using fglrx ?11:41
thomas_when i want to shutdown my laptop it doesnt shutdown really it only goes to Will now halt and doesnt power of11:42
thomas_f11:42
zorglu1kub: hmm so i dunno :) sorry i have to do some frag on tremulous11:42
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zorglu1kub: good luck :)11:42
kubzorglu1: thanks a lot11:42
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kernalfajita: how are you?11:42
thomas_stays at acpi_power_off11:43
thomas_but i dont know how to fix this11:44
gatekeeperkub: here is a howto to backup and restore your system, but you could modify it just to backup your date then reinstall then restore your data: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8131111:44
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h3sp4wnthomas_: If you are using ati 's binary drivers then I would expect that to happen11:45
kubgatekeeper: data = programs + configuration of the whole system?11:45
h3sp4wnkub: The configuration of the whole system is broken restoring that would be pointless11:45
yurgatekeeper,i have another qstion,now it tell me select the desired default display manager: gbm orr kdm11:45
yursrry gdm or kdm11:46
thomas_that means i have to uninstall the ati drivers ?11:46
zorglu1kub: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76482.html11:46
thomas_then i my laptop shutdown correctly11:46
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fiyawerx!firefox11:46
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:46
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zorglu1kub: google keyword ubuntu install cd "86%"11:47
kubh3sp4wn: you are right...11:47
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yurgatekeeper,i have another qstion,now it tell me select the desired default display manager: gdm or kdm11:47
gatekeeperyur: you select which window manager you want to use, when the login screen appears if you just log in it will use whatever you used last unless you select the other one11:47
kernalfirefox11:47
kernal!firefox11:48
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ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins11:48
yurk i selected kdm it  is jnstalling :-)11:48
kernal!i81011:49
ubotuI know nothing about i81011:49
gatekeeperyur: doesn't matter which one you select as default, the default one will become which ever one you last used11:49
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yurk thnx11:50
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yurk now it finished i just have 2 restar my pc ?11:50
macdany recomendations on howto split a mpg to burn on multiple vcds?11:50
gatekeeperyur: enjoy :-)11:50
yurthnx11:51
gatekeeperyur: probable a good idea11:51
gatekeeperyur: you may only only need to log out11:51
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gatekeeperthen log back in11:52
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chicken_Firehi, I have a problem: gam_server takes 20% cpu after one day uptime... How do I remove it at boot?12:00
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