[12:08] <cbo> rjb: i was guessing if you use mac filtering and some other was using it...
[12:08] <rjb> power cycling helps in most cases though once isn't always enough
[12:08] <rjb> cbo: i explicitly set mac filtering off
[12:08] <rjb> and enabled wpa-psk
[12:08] <rjb> once it attaches it works great
[12:09] <cbo> rjb: it seems that the problem is in the AP side, but i've never heard of such problem in linksys routers...
[12:11] <rjb> cbo: bad luck for me then. a problem i can't reproduce systematically is no good for a warranty claim ;-/
[12:12] <cbo> rjb: how many wifi clients do you have to make probes?
[12:13] <rjb> cbo: just 2 atm
[12:13] <kub> cbo: maybe it's impossible to enable the USB keyboard in my BIOS... do you know any boot manager with mouse support?
[12:13] <v0taguz> i have to upgrde my kernel of 386 to 686 anybody know do it ??
[12:13] <cbo> rjb: or, wired connections do always go ok?
[12:13] <rjb> ..until i invite some friends over w/their laptops ;)
[12:14] <rjb> cbo: not sure, i don't use the wired ports a lot
[12:14] <cbo> kub: i think it would be better to get an usb-ps2 adapter if you can
[12:14] <macd> v0taguz: at konsole, 'sudo apt-get install linux-686'
[12:14] <kub> cbo: I see... thanks
[12:14] <cbo> rjb: you can try
[12:15] <v0taguz> macd: Thanks
[12:15] <v0taguz> =)
[12:15] <cbo> kub: but have you already look for this config in setup?
[12:15] <rjb> cbo: ok, i see there's no obvious answer
[12:16] <cbo> rjb: i spent a lot of nights with a random problem i had with a router, at the end i found that it was overheating, the router did not hang, but was unable to keep it's ip for more thant 5 minutes
[12:17] <cbo> rjb: so try putting yours upside-down! ;-)
[12:17] <cbo> rjb: really don't know, just trying to help
[12:17] <DaSkreech> How do I get rid of "GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com dapper Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E" as an erro
[12:17] <rjb> cbo: eheheh
[12:18] <kub> cbo: not yet
[12:18] <cbo> kub: i'm pretty sure you will find it if you try
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: INstall the public key of whoever has that repo
[12:18] <kub> cbo: I hope so
[12:18] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: What if I've done that already?
[12:19] <kub> cbo: I think so too
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> DaSKreech: Either it didn't work or something is wrong with it
[12:19] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: How can I tell if it didn't work?
[12:20] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Have a look in root's gpg keyring (I am trying to remember where its located)
[12:21] <rjb> how about this: how is gmail working with konqueror for you?
[12:22] <DaSkreech> rjb: Yup
[12:22] <rjb> i'd rather avoid firefox & stick to konqui, but my gmail addiction is holding me back
[12:22] <srunni> hey does any1 know how to associate the kmenu with the winkey?
[12:23] <rjb> DaSkreech: does 'send from alternate address' work for you? how about gmail chat?
[12:24] <DaSkreech> Don't use either sorry
[12:24] <rjb> aah
[12:24] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Join us!!
[12:24] <DaSkreech> rjb: did you lie?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ;)
[12:24] <rjb> DaSkreech: meaning?
[12:25] <crazy_penguin> good night to all. sleep weel. :)
[12:25] <DaSkreech> rjb: Set Konquror to report itself as Firefox and all should work as planned
[12:25] <linuxmonkey> rjb: gmail works fine in konqui for me, just change your browser identification
[12:25] <DaSkreech> Night crazy_penguin!
[12:26] <gnomefreak> ok i give :(
[12:26] <rjb> DaSkreech: not all, though *most* works
[12:26] <rjb> i mentioned 2 that don't
[12:27] <rjb> i was wondering if there is a "best" user-agent spoofing option
[12:27] <rjb> oh and google calendar fails totally in konq
[12:28] <rjb> (unless someone has a trick i haven't guessed yet)
[12:28] <BKaj> trappist:  wow, strange , the konsole can't find chroot pkg yet it there in /usr/bin as palin as day ..WTF is goingon ?
[12:29] <rjb> BKaj: /usr/bin/chroot is installed by the `coreutils' package
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> BKaj: You may want dchroot or schroot for an easier way
[12:31] <BKaj> ok rjb,thx I'll try that
[12:31] <rjb> BKaj: try what? ;-) coreutils is installed by default
[12:32] <rjb> btw if you wanna know which package "owns" a file: dpkg -S /usr/bin/chroot (in a terminal window)
[12:32] <BKaj> well how do I implement coreutils to install chroot , then ?
[12:33] <rjb> BKaj: chroot is just a command
[12:34] <BKaj> ok so it's like becoming root before running certain proggies...shoulda knaown DOH!
[12:35] <rjb> BKaj: wrong
[12:35] <rjb> that would be sudo (or su)
[12:36] <BKaj> su doesn'rt work , but sudo does
[12:36] <rjb> chroot means "change what the prog about to be launched will see as the root of the filesystem"
[12:37] <BKaj> so what's the point of chroot ? if I wanna run 32bit stuff on this 64bit pc?
[12:37] <gioacchino> hello!!
[12:37] <xwolf-> !quicktime
[12:37] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:38] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:  I had reinstall kubuntu and I had resolv all my problem!!! thanks!!!
[12:38] <rjb> BKaj: the point is to "hide" the 64bit system from those 32bit apps
[12:38] <rjb> and make them see only the 32bit environment
[12:39] <BKaj> yeah ok I understand that but how do I do it then
[12:39] <rjb> (shared libs mostly)
[12:39] <rjb> i believe that's explained pretty well on the wiki
[12:39] <rjb> wiki.kubuntu.org
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> !schroot
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about schroot
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> !dchroot
[12:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about dchroot
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> ubotu doesn't know anything
[12:40] <BKaj> the wiki didn't explain it clearly to me
[12:40] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:  you ignere me ?
[12:40] <rjb> !chroot
[12:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot
[12:40] <gioacchino> h3sp4wn:  you ignore me ?
[12:40] <rjb> dumb bot ;/
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> !deboostrap
[12:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about deboostrap
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> !debootstrap
[12:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about debootstrap
[12:41] <BKaj> never mind I won't bother with this stuff any more...id it won't run without all this trouble then I don't need it
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> Knows even less than he used to
[12:41] <gioacchino> rjb: can you ask h3sp4wn if he ignore me ?
[12:41] <rjb> BKaj: you probably wanted to install a 32bit system
[12:41] <rjb> if what you need are mostly 32bit apps
[12:42] <rjb> a 32bit OS runs just fine on amd64 cpus
[12:42] <rjb> gioacchino: wtf?
[12:43] <gioacchino> wtf ?
[12:43] <gioacchino> wath's wtf ?
[12:43] <BKaj> shoulda installed the 32 bit version of dapper
[12:47] <gioacchino> can you url the list of pacage for kubuntu?
[12:48] <BKaj> fuck this ...enuff ...too damn much trouble ...ran out of patience , seems aai'm just chasing my tail ...I've got better things to do like bang my against a wall :)
[12:49] <linuxmonkey> Watch your language
[12:50] <KinGetana> Hi, i was wondering, how can i get the quality information of the music and videos (avis and vob's and such) with dapper? mediainfo was great in windows, but i doubt if it'll work on this system
[12:53] <coachJ> anyone play crossfire?
[12:57] <coachJ> anyone tell me how to launch the game crossfire
[12:57] <kub> konqueror or firefox??
[12:57] <Kyral> login to a console and run "crossfire"?
[12:57] <coachJ> then what?
[12:58] <coachJ> trying
[12:58] <rjb> what's crossfire?
[12:58] <coachJ> game
[12:58] <kub> konqueror or firefox?? what's your choice?
[12:58] <coachJ> firefox
[12:59] <kub> ok... and why? lol
[12:59] <rjb> kub: i'd choose konqueror, but gmail chose firefox for me
[12:59] <DaSkreech> hi nalioth
[12:59] <coachJ> what do I type in terminal
[12:59] <kub> rjb: has konqueror any problem using gmail ?
[01:00] <rjb> for me, two:
[01:00] <rjb> no "mail from other address"
[01:00] <coachJ> kyral--what do i type in terminal
[01:00] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Whats up?
[01:00] <Kyral> coachJ: Oh I dunno, the name of the program
[01:00] <theta> DCC SEND thank-you-all-for-the-tor 0 0 0
[01:00] <rjb> calendar doesn't work
[01:00] <nalioth> DaSkreech: howdy
[01:00] <coachJ> didn't work
[01:01] <Kyral> coachJ: then I dunno
[01:01] <gnomefreak> damn
[01:01] <coachJ> thks
[01:01] <gnomefreak> i tried
[01:01] <fiyawerx> did anyone else just get  [Error]  Connection to Server irc.freenode.net lost: remote host closed connection.
[01:02] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Who?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> i thought it was #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:02] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: the Dcc exploiter
[01:02] <nalioth> nixternal: driz winXperts driz fiyawerx YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR CONNECTION PORT TO 8001   this will prevent your ownage from idiots
[01:02] <DaSkreech> a haha
[01:03] <fiyawerx> nalioth: not sure where to do that?
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: Or change your router firmware away from vxworks
[01:04] <nalioth> fiyawerx: in your connection settings, you should see a field marked "port number"
[01:04] <fiyawerx> under settings -> config konversation?
[01:04] <kub> rjb: try Opera, I think it works fine with gmail and hotmail
[01:05] <rjb> kub: why would i care about hotmail
[01:05] <nalioth> fiyawerx: i use irssi, but that sounds like the place
[01:05] <gnomefreak> doesnt konversation come default with kubuntu?
[01:05] <rjb> kub: i use gmail but gmail chat is sometimes useful, and so is google calendar
[01:05] <kub> rjb: it was only an example, hotmail doesn't work well with firefox...
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: As far as I know it does
[01:06] <gnomefreak> i found it
[01:07] <gnomefreak> i had pulled it out of menu
[01:08] <elie> hello
[01:08] <fiyawerx> so what caused the disconnects before?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: a Dcc exploit
[01:09] <gnomefreak> !dcc
[01:09] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[01:09] <fiyawerx> oh it was my router that did it?
[01:09] <fiyawerx> will have to update it when i get home
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerx: What router are you using ?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: its someone sending something your router cant handle
[01:10] <nalioth> fiyawerx: your router has faulty firmware
[01:10] <fiyawerx> netgear wgr614 v5
[01:10] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: i was gonna check on where to set the settings but the bug that stops me from booting kde is stopping any of the qt apps from running :(
[01:10] <elie> any 1 can pm me to help in a black scrreen issue
[01:10] <fiyawerx> gnomefreak: i set it to 8001
[01:10] <gnomefreak> fiyawerx: you should be fine than
[01:11] <Jack1> hi
[01:11] <fiyawerx> ok, it's prob. good to update my firmware anyway, i havn't even thought of that
[01:12] <Jack1> i want to save preferences in the window of gtkpod, but it appears that the  borders arent resizable so i cant point to the buttons on the downside of the window to save them
[01:13] <rjb> goodbye & CU
[01:13] <Jack1> and : if i have in my terminal jack@fluffy but want to change the part after the at how could i do that?
[01:13] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Change the name of your machine
[01:13] <Jack1> DaSkreech but how??
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Jack1: ok Just checking to make sure you don't mind doing that :)
[01:14] <DaSkreech> It's in your /etc/hostname file
[01:14] <DaSkreech> Or you could echo $PS1
[01:15] <Jack1> u know what i mean with the window behaviour i described above?
[01:15] <elie> hi
[01:15] <Jack1> DaSkreech where exactly in /etc is the file?
[01:16] <Jack1> hi elie
[01:16] <elie> can u help me with 2 prroblems plz
[01:16] <Jack1> DaSkreech found it thyx
[01:17] <Jack1> what u need elie?
[01:17] <elie> always when i play a game and i exit it, and i logoff or switch user or turn off the pc i get a black screen and the sound seem 2 freeze
[01:18] <Jack1> does it say something and a genuine linuxgame or what?
[01:18] <Jack1> or do u use wine?
[01:18] <elie> wolfenstein or ut2004
[01:19] <elie> nop it just give a complete black screen and my screen turrns off
[01:19] <kub> hey, my Kubuntu is not visible from my MS Windows Network (XP)... why?
[01:20] <DaSkreech> kub: You have samba installed?
[01:20] <Jack1> sry elie hvent got experience with that
[01:20] <kub> Jack1: sure I have
[01:20] <elie> ok now the 2nd problem, always when i chek 4 updates it tells me that:W: GPG error: http://www.getautomatix.com dapper Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 18B52FE3521A9C7C Justin Hayes (Automatix Repository Master) <wildtangent@w1ldt4ng3nt.net>
[01:21] <kub> Jack1: I can see my XP shared folders from Kubuntu
[01:21] <DaSkreech> elie: The black screen is probably a resolution error
[01:22] <DaSkreech> elie: That probably means that you don't have a key for the repos
[01:22] <elie> i use a atix800xl pcie
[01:22] <Jack1> kub u need to get a kind of driver google for that its a simple thing then u can edit the linux files from windows
[01:22] <DaSkreech> !tell kub about samba
[01:23] <TheHighChild> elie: This tells you how to set up the gpg keys in Breezy, probably the same for Dapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025
[01:23] <kub> Jack1: the problem's Windows XP doesn't see my Kubuntu in the network
[01:23] <TheHighChild> elie: This is more up-2-date http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025
[01:23] <imbrandon> !tell kub < samba
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell kub < samba
[01:24] <Jack1> DaSkreech in a program i have strange window behaviour i cannot resize the window that i can reach down and use the save bttons
[01:24] <Jack1> buttons
[01:24] <imbrandon> !tell kub > samba
[01:24] <Jack1> any idea?
[01:24] <kub> Jack1: from Kubuntu I have no problem... XP shared folders are visible through Samba
[01:24] <Jack1> like u can move a window but never get its downside where your save that buttons are..
[01:25] <Jack1> kub i dont know havent used samba yet
[01:25] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Use alt+Mouse to drag the windows
[01:26] <DaSkreech> kub: I think  you can leave Jack1 alone now :)
thats so cool thank you
[01:26] <imbrandon> lol
[01:26] <kub> the point is: how could I share linux directories via Samba? (all options are disabled in the GUI!)
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Yeah I screamed when they added that in Redhat
[01:26] <imbrandon> !samba > kub
[01:26] <DaSkreech> kub: Where/
[01:26] <imbrandon> there we go
[01:27] <Jack1> elie for automatix check the website getautomatix u need to import their keys first
[01:27] <kub> DaSkreech: in "Shared Folders" or something like that...
[01:27] <Towering> hmmm... little stuck here
[01:27] <DaSkreech> kub: Under file sharing?
[01:27] <kub> DaSkreech: all options disabled
[01:27] <driz> I'm Driz
[01:27] <elie> will try it now thnx
[01:27] <kub> DaSkreech: yep
[01:28] <DaSkreech> kub: In the bottom right corner there is a button that says administrator mode? Press it and put in your password
[01:28] <Jack1> elie its easy just cp and paste in your terminal
[01:28] <kub> DaSkreech: Administrator mode doesn't change the situation
[01:28] <imbrandon> kub do you have samba installed ?
[01:28] <suea> wtf is grub error 17?
[01:29] <kub> imbrandon: yes, in fact I can see my Windows folders and work with them
[01:29] <imbrandon> kub that just means smbfs is installed, have you installed SAMBA
[01:29] <driz> !questions
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about questions
[01:29] <h3sp4wn> !cifs
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about cifs
[01:30] <imbrandon> suea, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=255645
[01:30] <DaSkreech> kub: that means that you have a Samba client That ships by default you don't have a server
[01:30] <suea> ty imbrandon
[01:30] <kub> imbrandon: oh, I see... I must install SAMBA in my Kubuntu?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> suea: Go to the Grub site I thnk it's on the front page :)
[01:31] <DaSkreech> suea: If not check the FAQ It's definately there
[01:31] <imbrandon> kub, yes to share a drive with windows ( not map a windows drive ) you need samba
[01:31] <TheHighChild> I just discovered Google today!!!1
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Yes if you want Windows to see your machine
[01:32] <kub> DaSkreech: I understand
[01:32] <imbrandon> TheHighChild, good, google is your friend
[01:32] <DaSkreech> :just uses filezilla but then he's not into the convience thing :)
[01:32] <DaSkreech> It works a lot faster :)
[01:32] <Jack1> h3sp4wn did u get my situation? while transferring data i get now after login the message (on the old lappie) that my /tmp is full and not writable and so i cannot login...rm -rf of /tmp via commandline didnt work
[01:32] <kub> imbrandon: so, I need SAMBA package... or is it already installed?
[01:32] <TheHighChild> imbrandon LOL, I hope you know that was a joke
[01:33] <imbrandon> kub sudo apt-get install samba ( then look on the ubuntuforums.org for tips on configuring it )
[01:33] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: I've heard of sadder thigns happening
[01:33] <imbrandon> TheHighChild, who knows you could have been a sheltered aol user
[01:33] <DaSkreech> Can I edit the Entries for KDM?
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Try it from recovery mode
[01:34] <kub> imbrandon: ok, thanks... I was pretty sure that I have already installed SAMBA with Adept... obviously, I was wrong
[01:34] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: What do you mean entries? It's startup?
[01:35] <Jack1> good idea...h3sp4wn are u a developer?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: No the Selections like KDE GNome XGL *cough*
[01:35] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, check /usr/share/apps/kdm
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: No
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Not of kubuntu anyway
[01:35] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: Oh, like the session manager?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> yes
[01:36] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, locate kdmrc ;)
[01:36] <Jack1> h3sp4wn dont want to be nosy but thx for the advice all the day..btw in case so is interested dapper works fine on the new siemens amilo si 1520 (except translucency)
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: I though it would
[01:38] <elie> now when i chek 4 update,it say: Could not download all repository indexes
[01:38] <elie> http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[01:38] <elie> http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)
[01:38] <kub> I have installed some applications (games, i.e.) but they are not in the menu... what's the reason for that?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> They need a .desktop file
[01:39] <TheHighChild> kub:  You may need to restart X before they appear in the menu
[01:39] <imbrandon> elie, try #automatix
[01:39] <kub> TheHighChild: I have already restarted
[01:39] <Jack1> elie are u on dapper?
[01:39] <elie> yup
[01:40] <elie> x64
[01:40] <Jack1> ok elie go there http://www.getautomatix.com/
[01:40] <kub> DaSkreech: do you mean a shortcut?
[01:40] <kub> DaSkreech: do you mean a shortcut? should I generate this .desktop manually?
[01:40] <Jack1> elie add the line the want to the /etc/fstab with kate /etc/fstab
[01:41] <imbrandon> jack1 elie please try #automatix
[01:41] <Jack1> then paste the line in konsole regarding the gpg keys+
[01:41] <suea> imbrandon: that makes sense. how do i fix it though? i originally deleted a file from kubuntu to give me a textbased login, but when i restarted, linux wasnt working anymore so, as the idiot i am, i went through windows and deleted the linux partitions so i could reinstall kubuntu (not knowing i didn't need to). im currently running the live kubuntu distro off the disc. how do i make it so i can atleast regain access to windows?
[01:41] <TheHighChild> Jack1: What does her issue with bunzip have to do with her fstab?
[01:41] <Jack1> imbrandon i know automatix is not popular here and i actually don have it
[01:41] <DaSkreech> kub: I'm probably not the person to answer that one :)
[01:42] <kub> TheHighChild: by the way, restarting is very UGLY... I thought it was not necessary to restart every time you install a program!
[01:42] <kub> DaSkreech: ok, thanks anyway
[01:42] <imbrandon> kub, restarting X not you computer
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> kub: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart would be quicker than a full reboot
[01:43] <TheHighChild> kub:  It isn't. If I didn't specify, I;m sorry. I meant restarting your X server. Some menu icons don't appear until you do.
[01:43] <DaSkreech> kub: Which games?
[01:43] <kub> imbrandon: yes, I know... but I don't like that way either
[01:43] <TheHighChild> kub: well, you can always manually add them if you don't want to restart X
[01:44] <imbrandon> kub thats a fact of computing sometimes you have to restart an app, if you want to get technical IF it DID create a menu restart kicker
[01:44] <kub> h3sp4wn: I press Ctrl + Alt + Backspace with same effect
[01:44] <imbrandon> kub no that ends you session but x is still running ( from KDM session )
[01:47] <DaSkreech> kub: There is always Right Click on KMenu -> Menu Editor
[01:47] <kub> DaSkreech: and then I create a shortcut to the binary...
[01:48] <DaSkreech> kub: Yup and put some icon that means something to you :)
[01:48] <ryanakca> anybody have a working libGL.so.1.2 than they could send me?
[01:49] <kub> DaSkreech: ok... for example, I have installed a 3d Chess game... but I have no idea where is it
[01:49] <DaSkreech> type which 3dchess
[01:49] <kub> DaSkreech: I looked into /usr/bins, but it's not there
[01:49] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/games probably
[01:49] <DaSkreech> Yeah
[01:50] <DaSkreech> kub: Adept?
[01:50] <kub> DaSkreech: right
[01:50] <kub> DaSkreech: with Adept... is Synaptic better than Adept?
[01:50] <TheHighChild> kub:  Have you tried 'locate <package-name>' That should give you an idea where it may be installed
[01:50] <DaSkreech> depends on if you like it better :) they do the same thing so no
[01:51] <TheHighChild> That's if "which <package-name> doesn't return anything
[01:51] <kub> TheHighChild: thanks, I'll try
[01:51] <DaSkreech> kub: You haven't run it at all?
[01:51] <kub> DaSkreech: the game? no, 'cause I can't find it!
[01:52] <TheHighChild> kub: You will need to update your slocate database by doing "sudo updatedb" That will update the "locate" database (slocate.db)
[01:52] <DaSkreech> kub: Go to the command line and type 3d and press tab twice
[01:53] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/games/3Dc
[01:53] <DaSkreech> or 3 and tab twice :)
[01:53] <kub> TheHighChild: then, the steps are: 1) update locate database 2) try to locate the package 3) make a new menu entry for the game
[01:53] <heinrich> hi all
[01:54] <heinrich> is emacs installed on dupper drake?
[01:54] <DaSkreech> I like my way better :)
[01:54] <DaSkreech> heinrich: Not by default
[01:54] <kub> DaSkreech: is your way the tab thing?
[01:54] <heinrich> how do i install emacs?
[01:54] <kub> DaSkreech: I think it's not working
[01:54] <DaSkreech> kub: yes type the first letter or two letters of the package name and press tab twice
[01:55] <heinrich> thx daskreech
[01:55] <DaSkreech> heinrich: sudo apt-get install emacs
[01:55] <DaSkreech> kub: It should give you a list of commands
[01:56] <heinrich> i just want to try to programm c++ with emacs
[01:56] <heinrich> any other editor recommended?
[01:56] <DaSkreech> When you see the one you need you can type which <name_of_command> and get the path to it
[01:56] <DaSkreech> Well emacs if you want to use it :)
[01:56] <TheHighChild> kub: First of all, which chess game have you installed? Secondly, did you install it with adept (or an apt-get variant) or did you install from a tarball?
[01:57] <kub> TheHighChild: 3dchess with Adept
[01:57] <heinrich> any recommendations?
[01:57] <suea> can anyone tell me how to fix a grub error 17? i have hda3 and hda4 set aside for linux using ext3 format.
[01:57] <spiel> can someone please help me with my nvidia driver, it's completely halting my computer on X start
[01:57] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Yes from adept and it's 3Dchess
[01:57] <kub> and some other applications with Add/Remove programs... which are not visibles
[01:57] <DaSkreech> heinrich: use Emacs :)
[01:58] <DaSkreech> suea: did you look at the link that was given to you?
[01:58] <ryanakca> does anybody have a (non-mesa, fglrx...) working /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 that they could send me? I can't seem to get mine to work...
[01:58] <suea> yeah, doesn't tell me HOW to do it though
[01:59] <suea> right now im running the live distro of kubuntu, if that has any bearing on it
[01:59] <heinrich> i tried emacs once its hard to learn
[01:59] <kub> speal have you started in safe mode?
[01:59] <DaSkreech> heinrich: Ah I thought you said that you wanted to use emacs
[02:00] <TheHighChild> kub: type 'gnome-chess' on the command line and press enter
[02:00] <spiel> is there anyone else who has had problems starting X with the nvidia driver?
[02:00] <heinrich> no i do not prefer emacs
[02:00] <heinrich> i come from visual studio 7
[02:00] <kub> gnome-chess? is the same thing?
[02:00] <DaSkreech> Ah Try kdevelop or quanta
[02:01] <heinrich> is kdevelop ok?
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Sure
[02:01] <TheHighChild> kub: Sorry man, actually, the application name is '3dc' type '3dc &'
[02:02] <kub> ok
[02:02] <TheHighChild> kub: the d is capitalized, sorry
[02:02] <kub> TheHighChild: great!
[02:02] <h3sp4wn> kub: Playing chess on freechess.org with eboard is more fun than playing against a computer
[02:02] <DaSkreech> Cool
[02:02] <DaSkreech> kub: Now try which 3Dc
[02:04] <kub> DaSkreech: now I'm gonna link the binary... right?
[02:04] <TheHighChild> kub: This is a much nicer looking app if you want to checkit out http://glchess.sourceforge.net/
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Right
[02:04] <kub> DaSkreech: fine
[02:04] <kub> thanks a lot, people
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> kub: If you want to play chess you may as well play a real person
[02:05] <kub> h3sp4wn: on freechess.org...
[02:06] <Jack1> h3sp4wn it didnt work and now??any idea?
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> kub: If you install eboard - that is a graphical interface for it
[02:06] <apokryphos> I wish someone would make a reaally cool opengl chess
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> apokryphos: Why ?
[02:06] <apokryphos> where the pieces were real people and the slaughters had good effects 8)
[02:06] <TheHighChild> Anyone recall the command to clear their repos? 'apt-cache clear'?
[02:06] <kub> h3sp4wn: ok, it sounds good
[02:06] <apokryphos> h3sp4wn: because I'd like it?
[02:06] <Jack1> like in the harry potter movie?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Looks good want to package it for the repos? :-)
[02:07] <apokryphos> harry potter? *Shudder*
[02:07] <TheHighChild> DaSkreech: I wish I could man. That shiat is way over my head.
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> apokryphos: I said that before the second line (otherwise I wouldn't have said it probably)
[02:07] <Jack1> IN THE FIRST FILM THERES SUCH A CHESSgame too..but am no fan either sry for caps lock
[02:08] <DaSkreech> TheHighChild: Not nearly as bad as they say :)
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> Crafty is the strongest freechess engine
[02:08] <TheHighChild> Anyone know what might cause my firefox shortcut (ctrl + k for google search) doesn't work when I am in the addrress bar?
[02:08] <h3sp4wn> GNUchess is also pretty strong - Phalanax is more fun to play against (because it plays more interesting moves)
[02:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone compiled wine lately on dapper?
[02:11] <OOD> i just did a minute ago why?
[02:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> im having problems and id like somone to help me out
[02:13] <kub> now... one more question :) there are some links on my desktop, how could I configure a "skeleton desktop" with this files by default?
[02:13] <OOD> what's the problem
[02:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: im havinf error while comipling it , im trying to find my pastebin link
[02:15] <OOD> is it while compiling, or while configuring?
[02:15] <kub> I want that all the new desktops (for new users) have these links by default, is it possible?
[02:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: ok here is the error i get when trying to compile if u can look at it http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16600
[02:17] <ryanakca> does anybody have a (non-mesa, fglrx...) working /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 that they could send me? I can't seem to get mine to work...
[02:17] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ryanakca: what r u doing?
[02:18] <kub> I want that all desktops have the same icons when they are created, is it possible?
[02:18] <visik7> anyone know how to compile restricted modules deb for 2.6.17-2 in edgy ?
[02:18] <ryanakca> get it to work.... no... actually... when I go fglrxinfo, I should get something about ATI & Radeon 9200... however, I get some stuff about mesa... which is not what should, and used to happen before today's upgrade...
[02:19] <ryanakca> 3d acceleration doesn't work now, which means I can't play bzflag :(
[02:19] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ryanakca: how did u install the fglrx driver?
[02:19] <kub> I want that all desktops have the same icons when they are created, is it possible?
[02:19] <ryanakca> I had installed it way back with aptitude, and since the upgrade, errors
[02:19] <TheHighChild> ryanakca: save as http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2
[02:19] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you're probably missing a bunch of stuff needed to compile
[02:20] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd; do apt-get install build-essential
[02:20] <ryanakca> TheHighChild: ty
[02:21] <OOD> and you'll also need these other packages to get a fully operational wine compile: http://wiki.winehq.org/Recommended_Packages
[02:21] <ryanakca> TheHighChild: restart Xorg now to get it to work with the new lib?
[02:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: already got the build essentials , i also did the command to get all the dependencied to compile wine
[02:21] <kub> how could I do that?
[02:22] <TheHighChild> ryanakca: No idea man. I just googled for what you were asking for. I don't actually know anything about your problem, sorry.
[02:22] <ryanakca> lol, kk
[02:22] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Check if you have any version of gcc installed
[02:22] <ryanakca> Thanks anywais
[02:22] <kub> I want that all desktops have the same icons, is it possible? Can a user desktop act as a "template" or something like that?
[02:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: is gcc same thing as the g++ compiler?
[02:23] <OOD> no don't think so
[02:23] <OOD> run gcc -version
[02:23] <OOD> or check with your package manager if you have gcc installed
[02:23] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: nope , dont have gcc at all , unrecognised command
[02:24] <TheHighChild> This is going to sound very retarded, sorry in advance. Is there a way to make my taskbar-thing collapsible?
[02:24] <OOD> then that's what you're missing
[02:24] <imbrandon> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, sudo apt-get build-essential
[02:24] <kub> how could I make a "template desktop" for all my users?
[02:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> imbrandon: i do have build essentials installed
[02:25] <OOD> but somehow you're missing gcc...
[02:25] <imbrandon> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, apparently not if you dont have gcc as thats part of build-essential
[02:25] <TheHighChild> kub, 'kdesu konqueror" then go to '/usr/local/autostart' in there you can copy items over from the kmenu into here and they willstart are KDE startup
[02:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> imbrandon: ok , i have it , the command was missing --
[02:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> imbrandon: version 403
[02:26] <OOD> you got the build-essentials package?
[02:26] <imbrandon> 4.0.3 or 40.3 or 4.03.0 or .......
[02:26] <imbrandon> brb
[02:27] <kub> TheHighChild: but when you create a user, there is no icons on his desktop right?
[02:27] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> imbrandon: gcc (GCC) 4.0.3 , i do have the build essentials , it says latest version when i try to install it
[02:27] <TheHighChild> kub: Let me know if you have trouble with that or questions
[02:27] <sir_binary> is there a package to install all codecs....
[02:27] <sir_binary> im using vlc
[02:27] <imbrandon> sir_binary, see !restricted
[02:27] <jason32> can anyone help me? im trying to install kubuntu to my HDD. i already setup a partition for the swap, but how do i make the root partition? set it as active?
[02:27] <TheHighChild> kub: Depends on how you create the user. if you do 'sudo useradd billy' then no. if you add them through the GUI utility then it should have the default set.
[02:27] <crimsun> (fwiw, I didn't enable w32loader for vlc)
[02:27] <kub> TheHighChild: the point is, i wanna make a "skeleton" or "template" desktop for every user
[02:27] <imbrandon> !restricted > sir_binary
[02:28] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: you should be able to compile now then, gcc breaks cd copy protection so i'd recommend you compile with 3.4 or 3.3
[02:28] <kub> TheHighChild: I'd like to modify the default set, exactly that
[02:28] <h3sp4wn> ub: put it in /etc/skel
[02:28] <TheHighChild> kub:  Ok, I'll see what I can find, give me a sec
[02:28] <kub> h3sp4wn: but desktops are not in /etc/skel
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> kub: Add .kde to there
[02:29] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: i think i know why it doesnt compile , because im using 64bit kubuntu ,  .,.,.,
[02:29] <kub> h3sp4wn: desktops are created in a different way
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> kub: However you want it setup
[02:29] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: lol that's the reason. here read this (on bottom) http://wiki.winehq.org/WineOn64bit
[02:30] <TheHighChild> Wine on 64 is horrible
[02:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: thak you , goshh im dumb
[02:31] <jason32> can anyone help me? im trying to install kubuntu to my HDD. i already setup a partition for the swap, but how do i make the root partition? set it as active?
[02:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i just want to run one little app , thats all
[02:32] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: if you need any more help check out the channel winehq they'll probably be most helpfull :)
[02:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32: you should  make a partition for boot/root/home/swap
[02:33] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32: make the boot partition primary , i think the rest of them can be logical
[02:33] <heinrich> bye all
[02:33] <OOD> eh 4 partitions o.0
[02:33] <jason32> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: ok, how? im running the kubuntu installer from the live distro
[02:33] <OOD> all you need is 2
[02:34] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ha , i have a software raid , i had to make like 9 different partitions , it was fun
[02:34] <jason32> and im at the manual partition set up screen
[02:35] <fiyawerx> if i want to mount a fat32 partition as rw to everyone, does anyone know the best way? even to make it do so all the time
[02:35] <OOD> you need 2 partitions, one as your main one called root (or just /) and one for swap
[02:35] <kub> h3sp4wn: sorry, you said it's possible to make a default desktop in /etc/skel...
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> kub: Possible but you would have to investigate how to do it yourself
[02:36] <kub> h3sp4wn: ok
[02:36] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32:i havent used the live cd but i guess the partition setup part is the same
[02:37] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32: you have to have free space available to create partitions
[02:37] <DaSkreech> Night all!!
[02:37] <jason32> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: can you join me in #jason32?
[02:37] <kub> night
[02:38] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32: ill pm u
[02:38] <jason32> k
[02:39] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32:is your nick registerred?
[02:40] <jason32> no
[02:41] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> jason32: type /msg nickserv register password --for password pick a passwords , then ull be able to pm
[02:42] <nixternal>  /quote nickserv  <-- this seems to be the new preferred way from conversations due to recent events
[02:42] <fiyawerx> after that whole recent mess with the compromising or wahtever?
[02:42] <nixternal> exactly
[02:44] <Towering> ahhh... i have music
[02:45] <mwiggins> anyone have their sound stop working on amd64?
[02:45] <mwiggins> everything is config right (worked just fine yesterday) machine rebooted now i get no output, all programs/drivers/mixers are correct
[02:45] <mwiggins> just no output
[02:45] <mwiggins> saw a few references on forum posts with similiar issues
[02:45] <mwiggins> but no resolution
[02:46] <Towering> is there a book out called kubuntu (or ubuntu) for idiots? could use it
[02:46] <Towering> if not, i can hunt for Linux for dummies, i know that one exists
[02:48] <min> yea
[02:48] <min> I get this problem
[02:48] <kub> TheHighChild, h3sp4wn: thank you very much
[02:48] <kub> you helped me a lot
[02:48] <Towering> need to find out how to get identd to work too
[02:48] <kub> good night
[02:48] <TheHighChild> kub: take care
[02:48] <min> I get this in my kubuntu
[02:48] <min> http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[02:49] <kub> TheHighChild: I will... :)
[02:49] <imbrandon_> Towering: http://www.lulu.com/content/324285
[02:49] <kub> see ya
[02:49] <Towering> that'll work
[02:50] <min> When I go on kubuntu http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png I get this
[02:51] <sir_binary> its trange ...but i cant find  libk3b2-mp3 with adept ....alll unverses r enabled
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> sir_binary: did you run 'sudo apt-get update'?
[02:52] <sir_binary> hmm nope
[02:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> Try it. :)
[02:53] <Jack1> how do i get the firestarte automatically started? mowving it to the autostart folder? OR IS IT unnecessary because its just a graphical thing and theres always a firewall when internet is started?
[02:54] <fiyawerx> !apache
[02:54] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:54] <min> can someone help me?
[02:55] <fiyawerx> hey guys whats the shift- copy command to go with shift-insert paste
[02:56] <Kr4t05> Does anyone have any clue on how to get an RCA mp3 player to work?
[02:56] <Kr4t05> I made the mistake of trying to format it as ext3. -.-
[02:57] <min> can someone help me?
[02:57] <min> I get this http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[02:57] <arcturus> mwiggins:  done the 'alsaconf' command?
[02:58] <fiyawerx> min: usually the answer's yes, easier to just ask the question rather than asking if you can ask the question :)
[02:58] <crimsun> we don't ship alsaconf.
[02:58] <mwiggins> aplay -l and all the alsa tools say its working fine
[02:59] <min> ok
[02:59] <crimsun> mwiggins: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[02:59] <min> Here goes
[03:01] <min> I have two monitors. One is attatched to a laptop and an external monitor. The one attatched to the laptop broke (baseball) And that's why I bought a monitor. My monitor is 17 inches 1024x768 but then I get this problem. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[03:01] <min> heres my xorg.conf file http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/734067
[03:02] <min> yea thats everything
[03:06] <min> anyone?
[03:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> It's still loading for me.
[03:06] <mwiggins> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/DktJ6I14.html
[03:06] <min> whats loading
[03:06] <mwiggins> pastebin was too slow
[03:06] <min> I see
[03:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> The pastebin of your xorg.conf
[03:06] <min> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/734067
[03:06] <min> hold on
[03:08] <min> ok I put my pastebin in a different site
[03:08] <min> http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p333443
[03:08] <mangz74> hi
[03:08] <mangz74> i have a question...
[03:08] <min> heres my xorg.conf file http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p333443
[03:08] <min> and heres my problem from before
[03:08] <min> I have two monitors. One is attatched to a laptop and an external monitor. The one attatched to the laptop broke (baseball) And that's why I bought a monitor. My monitor is 17 inches 1024x768 but then I get this problem. http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[03:08] <Das|Away> JamesWC, Just ask
[03:09] <crimsun> mwiggins: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off && amixer set 'Master' 84%
[03:09] <min> the place where I put my xorg.conf file should come out fast
[03:09] <JamesWC> Hello!  I have a pretty new computer, with windows xp media center edition.  I would like to try Kubuntu, but I don't know where to start...Can I run both windows xp and kubuntu?  will windows xp have to be removed?
[03:09] <mwiggins> crimsun: no effect
[03:10] <mangz74> hi guys...is it possible to change kmenu icon in the panel into just a plain text..don't want a icon...this possible?
[03:10] <mwiggins> i've tried frobbing the mixer in all sorts of ways, it does not seem to be a mixing issue
[03:10] <Das|Away> JamesWC: Download it and go; Yes; no
[03:10] <crimsun> mwiggins: amixer output again, please
[03:10] <min> anyone?
[03:10] <mwiggins> amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'IEC958 Output' off && amixer set 'Master' 84%
[03:11] <mwiggins> erp
[03:11] <mwiggins> heh
[03:12] <min> my xorg.conf file http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p333443
[03:12] <mangz74> ?
[03:12] <mangz74> anybody got an idea to help me?
[03:12] <mwiggins> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wM4oxb55.html
[03:13] <JamesWC> Can kubuntu be easily removed if I don't like it?
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> JamesWC: Yeah, just format the kubuntu partition.
[03:13] <min> CheeseBurgerMan: xorg.conf http://www.psp-hacks.com/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=333443#p333443
[03:13] <mwiggins> not like its going to help you
[03:14] <mangz74> ?
[03:14] <crimsun> mwiggins: have you toggled the 'External Amplifier' control (i.e., muted it)?
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: I don't see anything glaringly wrong.
[03:14] <Towering> so, i used Adept Manager to install wine, but now i don't see it the start menue.. did i miss something?
[03:14] <mwiggins> yes
[03:15] <crimsun> mwiggins: "not like its going to help you"  <-- what is that in reference to?
[03:15] <mwiggins> ive frobbed everything possible on the ixer
[03:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: But I'm not exactly sure if I would see anything wrong with it.
[03:15] <mwiggins> im just saying its not a mixering issue
[03:15] <crimsun> mwiggins: are you /positive/?
[03:15] <crimsun> mwiggins: because as the sound person for Ubuntu, I'm not.
[03:15] <JamesWC> ok I have a AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+....Do I download 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD?
[03:15] <min> So theres nothing wrong with it?
[03:15] <min> then why is my thing so big?
[03:16] <mwiggins> ko, well yes
[03:16] <mwiggins> i have tried turning on every switch on the mixer
[03:16] <mwiggins> toggling everything, maxing everything, capturing every input
[03:16] <crimsun> mwiggins: nope, randomly toggling stuff isn't the way to go about it.
[03:16] <mwiggins> thats what leads me to believe its not a mixing issue
[03:16] <mwiggins> it wasnt random, was trying all possibilities
[03:16] <crimsun> mwiggins: that's random for our purposes
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: More like I don't know if something's wrong with it. You can try running 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' to reconfigure it. SInce you've apparently edited it you might want to back up your current one.
[03:17] <crimsun> mwiggins: what I need is the contents of the ac97 reg file from a known-working boot
[03:17] <JamesWC> ok I have a AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3800+....Do I download 64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD?
[03:17] <crimsun> mwiggins: whether this means booting from the live cd and getting sound, it doesn't matter.
[03:17] <min> CheeseBurgerMan: Thats not my monitor settings. Someone gave it to me. Im on two monitors and I need to dual them and this one worked almost well. and o the reconfigure thing doesnt work on dual monitors it only registers one.
[03:18] <crimsun> mwiggins: normally it's the /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs file.
[03:18] <TheHighChild> JamesWC: If you want to run in 64 bit. Otherwise you can download the 386 version to run in 32 bit
[03:18] <JamesWC> Whats the better option Child?
[03:18] <OOD> JamesWC no i'd recommend you run the 32-bit
[03:18] <OOD> less problems in getting things to run
[03:18] <JamesWC> So I download the PC (Intel x86) desktop CD?
[03:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> Bah, go 64 bit.
[03:18] <min> CheeseBurgerMan: Thats not my monitor settings. Someone gave it to me. Im on two monitors and I need to dual them and this one worked almost well. and o the reconfigure thing doesnt work on dual monitors it only registers one.
[03:19] <TheHighChild> JamesWC: I have an AMD64 chip and ran 64 bit but, I personally feel that 64 bit desktop applications are seriously lacking. I reinstalled with 32 because things are a lot easier to setup and it seems faster to me
[03:19] <mwiggins> crimsun: i have an ac97 on an nforce board at home
[03:19] <OOD> ant there are less problems
[03:19] <mwiggins> this one is on VIA
[03:19] <mwiggins> will that matter?
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> I like my 64 bit, but suit yourself. :)
[03:19] <TheHighChild> JamesWC: That isn't a global thing though. 64 bit server installations are great. We have a few Sun servers running dapper terifically. i just feel the Desktop side of things is way behind
[03:19] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: To be honest, I'm not really sure what's wrong.
[03:19] <crimsun> mwiggins: ac97 is a specification not a title of a sound device.
[03:20] <min> CheeseBurgerMan:what does this mean
[03:20] <min> Option		"MergedFB"	"true"
[03:20] <min> 	Option		"CRT2Position"	"RightOf"
[03:20] <min> ?
[03:20] <CheeseBurgerMan> I don't know that either. :(
[03:20] <min> sigh
[03:21] <min> I got it!
[03:21] <min> I know what the problem is
[03:21] <min> min@ubuntu:~$ sudo xrandr
[03:21] <OOD> mwiggins: you trying to get surround sound working ?
[03:21] <min> Password:
[03:21] <min>  SZ:    Pixels          Physical       Refresh
[03:21] <min> *0   2304 x 1024   ( 585mm x 260mm )  *-19821
[03:21] <min>  1   2048 x 768    ( 585mm x 260mm )   19910
[03:22] <min>  2   1280 x 1024   ( 585mm x 260mm )   -26756 -19557
[03:22] <mwiggins> no trying to fix my audio it stopped working
[03:22] <crimsun> mwiggins: anytime you have /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0+regs from a boot with working sound, please pastebin it and tell me the url
[03:23] <apokryphos> min: don't paste in here, please use a pastebin service (check the topic)
[03:23] <min> sorry
[03:23] <min> the pastebin doesnt really work
[03:23] <apokryphos> it works fine
[03:24] <mwiggins> crimsun: this is from my nforce machine at home:  http://rafb.net/paste/results/hp549Y44.html
[03:24] <mwiggins> differs from this one
[03:24] <crimsun> mwiggins: I'm only interested in the via.
[03:24] <apokryphos> oh, the pastebin.com is playing up lately though, yeah
[03:24] <robotgeek> rafb.net/paste
[03:25] <mwiggins> the livecd has audio drivers and a sample file?
[03:25] <crimsun> mwiggins: yes.
[03:25] <crimsun> hence why they call it a 'live cd' :)
[03:25] <mwiggins> wheres the sample file at on the filesystem
[03:26] <crimsun> take your pick. /usr/share/sounds/
[03:26] <mwiggins> ko will try
[03:26] <robotgeek> there should be samples in the example directory on the desktop
[03:27] <crimsun> yes, there are those, too
[03:27] <crimsun> even a video iirc
[03:27] <min> ok here is my new pastebin ;] 
[03:27] <min> http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595
[03:27] <min> how do I pick choice number 3 from http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595?
[03:28] <min> anyone?
[03:29] <elie> sup guys
[03:29] <elie> oi
[03:29] <min> hey
[03:29] <min> http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595
[03:29] <elie> i have a prroblem
[03:29] <elie> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:30] <min> anyone?
[03:30] <min> can someoine help me?
[03:31] <mwiggins> feh i dont have a livecd, just an install CD
[03:32] <elie> any1?
[03:32] <elie> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:32] <crimsun> mwiggins: on the normal install, which kernel are you using?
[03:33] <mwiggins> 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[03:33] <mwiggins> i tried the older ones i had still installed too with no avail
[03:34] <min> how do I pick choice 3?
[03:34] <min> http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595
[03:34] <crimsun> mwiggins: and sound /was/ working a couple days ago?
[03:35] <mwiggins> sound was working just fine yesterday, i accidentally ran "sudo halt" from a ssh session this morning (this is the work box thats affliced), and when i booted up this morning its been behaving like this since
[03:35] <sir_binary> umm amp is on ....player is play ....mute is off yet i cant hear anything
[03:35] <mwiggins> tried diff kernels, not sure what packages were updated since last reboot, its been on for a week or two, and i regularly update with adept
[03:36] <mwiggins> same here sir_binary
[03:36] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, do this.
[03:37] <crimsun> mwiggins: replace your existing /etc/init.d/alsa-utils with the version at http://sh.nu/~crimsun/alsa-utils
[03:37] <crimsun> mwiggins: then, sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
[03:37] <Frederick> folks anyone here using nicotine?
[03:37] <min> how do I install firefox in kubunut?
[03:37] <Frederick> min: sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:37] <crimsun> mwiggins: then, shutdown the computer, wait two minutes, and boot back into KDE
[03:39] <min> thanks
[03:39] <dracflamloc_> how can i resize a ext3 partition
[03:39] <min> now how do u uninstall konqueror?
[03:40] <dracflamloc_> erm, anyone?
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: I dunno if i'd uninstall konqueror, it's also your file manager.
[03:40] <min> I see
[03:40] <min> so I should just leave it
[03:40] <CheeseBurgerMan> yeah
[03:40] <Frederick> min: leave it
[03:40] <min> k
[03:40] <crimsun> well, you /can/ uninstall it if you wish.
[03:41] <Frederick> you can use other file managers
[03:41] <crimsun> we give you rope; you can choose to hang yourself.
[03:41] <untwisted> Hi all, I've recently had my laptop repaired -- it got a new motherboard.  Now my Dapper install doesn't recognize the wired ethernet port (it sees the wireless one).  Will I have to reinstall or is there a way to get it to detect it?
[03:42] <min> now that the thing is finished
[03:42] <min> where is my firefox?
[03:42] <sir_binary> run command
[03:42] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: Alt+F2 > Firefox or it would be in K Menu > internet > firefox
[03:43] <min> do I have to do that everytime I wanna run firefox?
[03:43] <mwiggins> crimsun: no effect
[03:43] <crimsun> untwisted: you shouldn't have to reinstall ever for hardware detection.
[03:43] <crimsun> mwiggins: well, by default you /shouldn't/ be able to hear anything after booting.
[03:43] <crimsun> we're not even halfway finished
[03:43] <CheeseBurgerMan> min: Um, it's no worse than konqueror.
[03:44] <min> then how can I run it without doing the run thing all the time?
[03:44] <untwisted> crimsun: any idea how to get it to detect and whatnot then?
[03:44] <mwiggins> well what next then
[03:44] <crimsun> mwiggins: I need to see amixer output on a fresh boot.
[03:44] <mwiggins> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/6wWYBJ53.html
[03:44] <crimsun> untwisted: depends on the newer/older hardware. There may be some output in ``dmesg'' related to the different network hardware.
[03:45] <untwisted> I'll try it and let you know what it says
[03:45] <TheHighChild> min: K menu > Internet > Firefox web browser  Put your mouse of the item, right click, add item to main panel
[03:45] <min> alright
[03:45] <min> thank you everyone
[03:45] <crimsun> mwiggins: that's from a fresh boot without you having touched any mixer elements?
[03:46] <min> yet I still have one unsolved problem
[03:46] <mwiggins> yes
[03:46] <mwiggins> i removed asound.state, halted off for coulpe minutes, startkde then amixer > paste
[03:47] <TheHighChild> min if firefox is not under 'K menu > Internet > Firefox web browser' then you can right click anywhere in the Kmenu and go to 'edit menu' here you can manually enter in the item and for the command use 'firefox' or type 'which firefox' on the command line and enter the output into the edit menu dialog
[03:47] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, that doesn't guarantee kmix doesn't do something, but I'll attempt to work around that.
[03:47] <untwisted> crimsun: I don't see anything in dmesg about it.  lspci shows it just fine
[03:47] <Tonglebeak> i installed kubuntu on my family's old p3 550mhz box. anyways the ethernet connection to the router isn't working. everything looks fine in the network config, i've tried both dhcp and static ip. looks like it has the right dns servers (probably pulled from when the livecd was in use), but on the actual install i just can't get out to anywhere. pinging even the router fails. what can i do here?
[03:47] <mwiggins> yeah im running kmix
[03:47] <crimsun> untwisted: and what does it show for the [new/old]  nic?
[03:47] <TheHighChild> min What other problem are you having?
[03:47] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, we'll mute the basics. First, amixer set 'Capture' off
[03:47] <min> http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770595#post770595 this is my pastebin
[03:48] <min> how owuld I pick choice 3 from here?
[03:48] <crimsun> mwiggins: next, amixer set '3D Control - Switch' off
[03:48] <TheHighChild> min use the arrow keys and press tab or enter
[03:48] <crimsun> mwiggins: next, amixer set 'Surround' on
[03:49] <untwisted> crimsun: what do you mean?  The entire motherboard was replaced and since its a laptop everything is onboard.  The wireless works with no further setup (works just like before I sent it for repair) however ifconfig eth1 doesn't work at all
[03:49] <mwiggins> k
[03:49] <TheHighChild> min nvm, I misread that.
[03:49] <crimsun> mwiggins: then, amixer set 'Center' on
[03:49] <crimsun> mwiggins: then, amixer set 'LFE' 80% on
[03:49] <min> TheHighChild: So then What should I do?
[03:49] <RawSewage> how do you use KDE program HELP
[03:49] <RawSewage> its confusing
[03:50] <elie> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:50] <RawSewage> when I do a search, it doesnt search that program's HELP
[03:50] <mwiggins> k
[03:50] <TheHighChild> min That isn't a selection dialog, it's only posting information about your setup.
[03:50] <crimsun> mwiggins: then try ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav'' . It /should/ be inaudible still.
[03:50] <elie> whn i do a update i get this: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[03:50] <min> TheHighChild: Then how should I set it up?
[03:50] <mwiggins> sure is
[03:51] <crimsun> untwisted: no, I want the lspci -v info for the onboard nic
[03:51] <min> here is my xorg.conf file
[03:51] <elie> any1?
[03:51] <TheHighChild> min If you want to change your resolution or refresh, you can edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or go to 'Kmenu > System Settings > Hardware . Display.
[03:51] <min> uh
[03:51] <min> the system settings dont really work
[03:51] <min> and I have no clue what to put on my xorg.conf file
[03:51] <TheHighChild> min Have you selected "Administrator mode" before making changes?
[03:52] <min> yea
[03:52] <min> wait
[03:52] <mwiggins> crimsun: wow you were right, its still inaudible!
[03:52] <elie> any1 can help me plz?
[03:52] <crimsun> mwiggins: now comes the tricky part. try, amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[03:52] <crimsun> mwiggins: then try aplay again.
[03:52] <min> heres what happens
[03:52] <robotgeek> elie: there should be IGN: somewhere
[03:52] <mwiggins> No effect
[03:53] <min> TheHighChild: http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[03:53] <TheHighChild> elie: I am not sure but I think one of your entries in the /etc/apt/sources.list is malformated
[03:53] <elie> ok wait i will open it
[03:53] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, good. Now, amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[03:54] <TheHighChild> min can you get me a copy of your xorg.conf?
[03:54] <min> k
[03:54] <TheHighChild> min Also, have you tried to restart your x session lately?
[03:54] <elie> k,how do i know if its is malformed
[03:54] <elie> can i post it here?
[03:55] <mwiggins> crimsun: okay
[03:55] <min> yea
[03:55] <crimsun> mwiggins: try the aplay command. If it's inaudible still, use: amixer set 'External Amplifier' on    then try aplay again
[03:55] <mwiggins> Both do not work
[03:55] <untwisted> crimsun: I messaged you the info from dmesg -v so that I wouldn't flood the channel
[03:56] <TheHighChild> elie: don't post it here, you can use pastebin
[03:56] <TheHighChild> !pastebin
[03:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:56] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, now try, amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1
[03:56] <min> TheHighChild: heres my pastebin http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770691#post770691
[03:56] <min> its the second one
[03:56] <mwiggins> crimsun: No effect
[03:56] <min> kubuntu pastebin is kinda down
[03:56] <crimsun> mwiggins: ok, I need ``dmesg''
[03:56] <min> TheHighChild: heres my pastebin http://forums.qj.net/showthread.php?p=770691#post770691
[03:57] <elie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667
[03:57] <RawSewage> Does ANYONE ... Anyone at all... know how to search app manuals with Help???
[03:57] <mwiggins> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/wV2LdL99.html
[03:57] <apokryphos> min: you can use the pastebin in /topic
[03:57] <crimsun> untwisted: anything in dmesg related to tg3.c ?
[03:57] <RawSewage> I asked in #KDE and they were all clueless
[03:57] <min> o
[03:57] <RawSewage> "huh? what?  you want to search a manual?  what for? huh???"
[03:57] <robotgeek> RawSewage: what do you mean?
[03:58] <TheHighChild> min I'm not super 1337 but something tells me that having 4 monitors configured in there is going to cause you problems
[03:58] <elie> hers my sorrce list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667
[03:58] <RawSewage> robotgeek,   Ok, most programs have user manuals, right
[03:58] <min> o oops
[03:58] <min> then what should I do?
[03:58] <untwisted> crimsun: no sir
[03:58] <min> can u take out the monitors for me and pastebin it?
[03:58] <robotgeek> RawSewage: man pages or gui apps help mauals?
[03:58] <untwisted> crimsun: or ma'am ;)
[03:58] <jason32> can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs file system?
[03:58] <RawSewage> robotgeek, for example, in Konversation, click Help, and theres the Konversation Handbook
[03:58] <robotgeek> RawSewage: okay, lemme look now
[03:59] <RawSewage> robotgeek, I want to be able to search in the handbook
[03:59] <crimsun> mwiggins: and ``cat /proc/interrupts''
[03:59] <elie> any1?
[03:59] <mwiggins> crimsun: http://rafb.net/paste/results/42t3WN43.html
[03:59] <driz> !vim
[03:59] <TheHighChild> min I wouldn't suggest doing that as i don't know which are which and I don't know your system. What I would do is backup your xorg.conf with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-6-27-06'
[03:59] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[03:59] <driz> !html
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[04:00] <untwisted> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16668
[04:00] <Towering> something i've noticed... you can take a DVD9 to DVD5, but can linux burn DVD9? haven't seen programs like that yet or i'm not looking hard enough
[04:00] <crimsun> mwiggins: do you have a bios 'reset defaults' or whatnot?
[04:00] <TheHighChild> Min I would then reconfigure my Xserver with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" If that fails miserbaly, you can restore your current with 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf-backup-6-27-06 /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[04:00] <arcturus> jason32: you'll find answer here: http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kf1.html#fish
[04:00] <jason32> can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs file system?
[04:01] <mwiggins> i'm sure
[04:01] <elie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16667  E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:01] <jason32> ok, thank you
[04:01] <mwiggins> but im out of time for you to keep randomly trying things i've already done
[04:01] <mwiggins> leaving work
[04:01] <mwiggins> thanks for the help anyway
[04:01] <crimsun> heh, ok.
[04:01] <Kr4t05> How do I change the Kmenu icon?
[04:01] <elie> amy1 can help plz
[04:01] <sir_binary> hey pick up were u left off
[04:01] <robotgeek> RawSewage: http://docsrv.caldera.com:8457/en/KDEdoc/khelpcenter/interface-basics.html look at second section
[04:01] <crimsun> get me the reg dump, and I'll look at it.
[04:02] <crimsun> ^ mwiggins
[04:02] <RawSewage> robotgeek, I will look.  ty
[04:02] <crimsun> mwiggins: otherwise we're both just shooting in the dark.
[04:02] <TheHighChild> elie: I am no expert but it may be because you have 3 of the same repos listed. You have 3 of the same automatix repos. That MAY be the trouble. I am not a professional and I cannot say for sure that is the problem
[04:02] <RawSewage> Searching requires you have the ht://Dig application installed.
[04:02] <RawSewage> ok
[04:05] <elie> thnx guyz
[04:06] <TheHighChild> geez, I wish people would tell me when things worked so I could stash it into my future-help.db
[04:06] <TheHighChild> or whether they don't
[04:06] <RawSewage> dont you love a mystery
[04:06] <TheHighChild> lol
[04:06] <robotgeek> RawSewage: sudo apt-get install htdig
[04:07] <RawSewage> robotgeek, ok thx
[04:07] <RawSewage> I guess I'll do that
[04:07] <TheHighChild> What really gets me is when I try and help someone in private for an entire shift, only to have them PM me the next day saying they had to reformat
[04:08] <RawSewage> mustve been a Windows user
[04:08] <RawSewage> they give up easily
[04:08] <sir_binary> there was no high child to show them the way
[04:08] <elie> ihave 2 problems now as i resloved the other1
[04:08] <TheHighChild> Yeah, it irks me but I did a good 6 months of that myself at some point, granted, i never knew about IRC back then and couldn't get help to save my life but I know the feeling.
[04:09] <untwisted> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16668  is my paste bin.  I'll brb I need to restart X real quick.
[04:09] <eXCeSS_> anyone have any ssh tutorials
[04:09] <TheHighChild> sir_binary: I try and help with the little, more common problems so newbies don't burn out the more 1337 crew, who help me ;)
[04:09] <eXCeSS_> im looking to use it to transfter files
[04:09] <RawSewage> Ok, htdig installed
[04:09] <TheHighChild> eXCeSS hit me up in private, i can go over basic scp with you
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> eXCeSS: It's pretty easy if you install putty, but you can look at http://www.suso.org/linux/tutorials/ssh.phtml
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> Or just talk to TheHighChild. ;)
[04:10] <elie> i am getting that error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16669
[04:11] <RawSewage> ugh
[04:11] <RawSewage> I give up
[04:11] <elie> any 1 can help plz
[04:11] <BoSJo> Hi all. Just installed Kubuntu....well actually it's my first Linux install (well tried Suse 10.1 yesterday), but everything works really nice :-) , it's here to stay. Just wondering! Is there a pdf reader that supports form fields?
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> kpdf?
[04:11] <untwisted> crimsun: back
[04:12] <BoSJo> kpdf dossent support it
[04:12] <RawSewage> I cant believe searching a program manual is so hard
[04:12] <elie> got 2 add/remove program and chek 4 kpdf
[04:12] <RawSewage> and not even built in
[04:12] <robotgeek> RawSewage: in khelp center, there is a build index, i cant figure out where to search
[04:12] <elie> any1 can help plz i am getting that error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16669
[04:12] <CheeseBurgerMan> BoSJo: Did you look at gpdf & xpdf?
[04:12] <arcturus> Kr4: kmenu.png. You could do a locate on it and substitute the one you want by renaming or whatever
[04:13] <TheHighChild> scp <filename> <user@destinationIP:/locationyouwanttosave> OR scp <user@destinationIP:/fileyouwanttosave> <destination>
[04:13] <elie> any1 can help with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16669
[04:13] <BoSJo> CheeseBurgerMan: no just open a pdf via Konkuer
[04:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> BoSJo: run 'sudo apt-get install gpdf xpdf' to install them.
[04:15] <BoSJo> CheeseBurgerMan: Thanks, will try that
[04:15] <RawSewage> robotgeek, I thnk I'll give up.  I try building an index for apps, and get error messages
[04:15] <CheeseBurgerMan> BoSJo: If not, you can try downloading Acrobat reader.
[04:15] <TheHighChild> elie have you unzipped the file?
[04:16] <RawSewage> robotgeek, thx for helping though
[04:16] <BoSJo> CheeseBurgerMan: ha ha ha, diden't even think off doing that *lol* will try the other first
[04:16] <elie> yup,it was inside a .zip
[04:16] <RawSewage> maybe one day , the elites at KDE will realize people need to search program manuals
[04:16] <TheHighChild> try 'gunzip filename'
[04:17] <TheHighChild> elie: try 'gunzip filename'
[04:17] <RawSewage> I asked in KDE, and they all acted shocked.  "You want to search a program manual??? I know where to look when I look in a manual blah blah"
[04:17] <CheeseBurgerMan> RawSewage: man <program> | grep <term> ;)
[04:17] <robotgeek> RawSewage: i know that kbeagle works nicely for this
[04:17] <elie> TheHighChild:it say: gunzip: /home/elie/Desktop/linuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh: unknown suffix -- ignored
[04:17] <RawSewage> ok thx
[04:18] <robotgeek> RawSewage: index /usr/share/doc, and you should be good to go
[04:18] <TheHighChild> elie: ok, sorry. I thought it might work
[04:18] <elie> thnx anyway
[04:19] <RawSewage> robotgeek, I think thats working
[04:19] <RawSewage> I think it's building
[04:20] <RawSewage> or its stuck at 0%
[04:20] <jason32> ok, can someone tell me how to mount an ntfs filesystem WITH read-write capabilities?
[04:20] <robotgeek> RawSewage: takes time
[04:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> why does adept only see dummy wine packages ?
[04:23] <jason32> ok, can someone tell me how to mount an ntfs filesystem WITH read-write capabilities?
[04:25] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> !mount
[04:25] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[04:26] <eXCeSS_> !ssh
[04:26] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[04:27] <johnflux_> Microsoft says, "Where do you want to go today?" Apple says, "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" FOSS says, "Are you coming, or what?"
[04:28] <arcturus> jason32:  read/write means umask=000
[04:28] <arcturus> read only ... umask=0222
[04:28] <arcturus> !windows
[04:28] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[04:28] <arcturus> lol
[04:31] <elie> k i have another problem
[04:31] <elie> any1 can help plz
[04:31] <Hawkwind> elie: Just ask your question
[04:31] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone got the wine installed with apt-get?
[04:32] <elie> aftere playing a games and exit it,and logoff or switch user i get a black screen and my monitor turrns of and the sound freeze like ttttt
[04:33] <RawSewage> it was stuck at 0%
[04:33] <RawSewage> I just stopped it
[04:33] <elie> aftere playing a games and exit it,and logoff or switch user i get a black screen and my monitor turrns of and the sound freeze like ttttt
[04:34] <elie> and some times it do the same thing when i try to star a 3d game likw wolfenstein
[04:38] <johnflux_> elie: sometimes I stare into space and not think of anything
[04:39] <chess> anybody have a howto link for installing nvidia drivers for kubuntu 6.06
[04:39] <eXCeSS_> !nvidia
[04:39] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:39] <chess> ty
[04:39] <eXCeSS_> np
[04:40] <elie> !ati
[04:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:40] <elie> some1 told me it was a rresolution fault but how do i reslove that?
[04:42] <kkathman> Hey apokryphos :)
[04:42] <apokryphos> hi there
[04:45] <chess> does kubuntu use synaptic manager?
[04:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> adept
[04:45] <kkathman> chess:  if you want to :)
[04:45] <arcturus> yes, synaptic, apt, and adept
[04:45] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> i think its same thing
[04:45] <OOD> it can, but it comes with adept by default
[04:45] <kkathman> but the standard is Adept
[04:45] <OOD> damm got beaten to it :D
[04:46] <arcturus> !adept
[04:46] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[04:46] <arcturus> !synaptic
[04:46] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[04:46] <arcturus> !apt
[04:46] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[04:46] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> anyone got the wine installed with apt-get?
[04:46] <OOD> whoah that's a cool bot :P
[04:46] <chess> ty
[04:46] <arcturus> noc: automatix supports wine
[04:47] <arcturus> err wine installs
[04:47] <OOD> get wine from the wine repository instead, much more up to date: http://www.winehq.org/site/download
[04:48] <arcturus> 00D: is it a deb package?
[04:48] <_modem> hi there. i have a problem with grub. its like my stage1 file is corrupted
[04:48] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> OOD: i tried , i cant install or compile it , i dont know wth is wrong with it ,
[04:48] <_modem> so, i boot with a live cd (my partitions are ok) and i tried to re install grub, but i have this error:
[04:49] <_modem> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[04:49] <_modem> any ideas?
[04:51] <KayRPee1> JRE and KDE-->Gnome questions
[04:52] <KayRPee1> I currently have Kubuntu...How can I change to Gnome?
[04:52] <_modem> its easy
[04:52] <CheeseBurgerMan> KayRPee1: 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'
[04:52] <_modem> go to adept
[04:52] <OOD> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I don't know, sorry
[04:52] <OOD> no, do sudo aptitude
[04:53] <OOD> otherwise it'll be impossible to uninstall
[04:53] <_modem> and install ubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <OOD> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[04:53] <min> sigh
[04:53] <min> can someone help me?
[04:53] <robotgeek> or you can "sudo apt-get remove libgtk-2.0-bin" to get rid of all gnome :)
[04:53] <OOD> lol
[04:54] <min> actually fuck it
[04:54] <OOD> min what's up?
[04:54] <min> Whats kubuntu good for anyways
[04:54] <min> yea
[04:54] <villmow> kde :)
[04:54] <OOD> a lot, it's my main OS now ;)
[04:54] <min> argh
[04:54] <min> I quit windows and I went to kubuntu
[04:54] <kkathman> hey robotgeek :)
[04:54] <min> but so many damn bugs
[04:54] <robotgeek> hey kkathman , long time
[04:55] <min> k
[04:55] <KayRPee1> I prefer ubuntu with gnome
[04:55] <min> OOD
[04:55] <kkathman> robotgeek:  been busy and my son was married this past weekend
[04:55] <_modem> mmm, any ideas about the stage1 file_
[04:55] <robotgeek> kkathman: great. congrats!
[04:56] <kkathman> KayRPee1:  if you prefer ubuntu w/gnome, why are you in kubuntu ?? :)
[04:56] <min> I dotn feel like typing all that again so
[04:56] <kkathman> robotgeek:  thanks :)
[04:56] <min> Ill use pics to explain
[04:57] <min> heres my desktop right now http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[04:57] <min> yea
[04:57] <min> heres my xorg.conf file
[04:57] <_modem> its a wide screen?
[04:57] <jane_> Hi all, I got a New printer,  HP 3915,  Is it necessary to compile a driver?
[04:57] <KayRPee1> I am searching desperately for some help
[04:57] <min> uh
[04:57] <min> no
[04:57] <min> its 1024x728
[04:58] <min> _modem: and its freaking huge. I have to scroll
[04:59] <KayRPee1> I actuallly have both, but I tried UNSUCCESSFULLY to upgrade my ubuntu w/ gnome from hoary to breezy
[04:59] <min> heres my desktop right now http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e272/minissocool/snapshot1.png
[04:59] <min> heres my xorg.conf file
[04:59] <OOD> did you try going to system settings->display->Hardware->Configure and selecting your monitor model?
[05:00] <untwisted> Hi all, I'm having some ATI driver problems.  The old drivers (8.25.18) worked just fine, but when I install the new ones I get errors in dmesg.  Heres my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16672
[05:00] <min> my monitor model isnt there
[05:00] <min> Im on two monitors
[05:00] <min> one is busted
[05:00] <min> and the other is working
[05:00] <min> When I change resolution it goes to the busted one
[05:01] <robotgeek> why dont you disconnect it then?
[05:01] <OOD> multimonitor support in linux isn't good
[05:01] <min> I cant
[05:01] <min> its laptop
[05:01] <robotgeek> min: oh okay
[05:01] <min> exactly
[05:02] <min> robotgeek: ? You solved something?
[05:02] <OOD> i forget the program name for multimonitor support, it was something starting with X
[05:02] <min> xorg?
[05:02] <OOD> Xa or something
[05:02] <min> xrandr?
[05:02] <OOD> no
[05:02] <robotgeek> min: no, i havent solved anything
[05:02] <min> damit
[05:02] <min> robotgeek: What was with that oh ok thing?
[05:03] <robotgeek> you said that it was laptop screen
[05:03] <min> yea
[05:03] <min> its busted
[05:03] <min> so I got a new monitor
[05:03] <min> which is external
[05:03] <min> It worked with windows
[05:03] <min> it doesnt in linux
[05:04] <OOD> damm i can't remember the name of that program
[05:04] <min> ionno maybe God's tellibg me linux isnt for me
[05:04] <Healot> no then... min
[05:04] <min> theres a program
[05:04] <min> xa
[05:04] <min> let me google it
[05:04] <OOD> i think that it was xa...something i can't remember
[05:05] <elie> i again
[05:05] <min> Xinerama?
[05:05] <elie> how 2 set my user let say elie to a root so i can have root permission?
[05:06] <OOD> yea thats it
[05:06] <Healot> Xinerama. I gave you the Xinerama example yesterday, iirc
[05:06] <min> its Xinerama?
[05:06] <min> healot u talking to me?
[05:07] <Healot> no, I was referring to Mr. William
[05:07] <min> so if I just get that then Im good to go?
[05:07] <james_xxx> min: i have a laptop i am using the same way lol
[05:07] <OOD> don't know, i haven't tried it myself
[05:08] <james_xxx> it's a medion, but i am not having any problems with it
[05:08] <robotgeek> min: never used xinerama, try looking in the wiki at help.ubuntu.com/community
[05:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what do i add to rmdir to delete everything withing the folder?
[05:08] <robotgeek> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: rm -rf foo/
[05:08] <OOD> rmdir -rf
[05:08] <min> yea one step ahead of u
[05:08] <dr_willis> cuuse rm -rf
[05:08] <OOD> hehe
[05:08] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> ty
[05:08] <_modem> i have a problem with grub. its like my stage1 file is corrupted
[05:08] <_modem> so, i boot with a live cd (my partitions are ok) and i tried to re install grub, but i have this error:
[05:08] <_modem> The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[05:09] <_modem> any idea_
[05:09] <_modem> ?
[05:09] <james_xxx> min:  before you give up on linux, try another distribution if you just can't get kubuntu to work. kanotix would be a good one to try
[05:09] <Healot> _modem, reinstall the kernel package or maybe the grub package...
[05:09] <min> thank you
[05:09] <min> finnaly some progress
[05:10] <_modem> yes, i did that (reinstall grub package)
[05:10] <Healot> purge the package first
[05:10] <Healot> then reinstall
[05:11] <_modem> nop . that didn't work
[05:11] <_modem> even if i copy the stage1 from /lib/grub....
[05:11] <min> just asking
[05:12] <min> what are the benifits of having linux?
[05:12] <min> why is it better than windows mac etc?
[05:12] <Mongey> its free
[05:13] <arcturus> for some windows is better
[05:13] <_modem> i never used a mac. it looks nice. its like a unix isn't it?
[05:13] <_modem> windows is better for games :)
[05:13] <dr_willis> its a tool.. some jobs are easier to do with specific tools.. thats how life is.
[05:13] <dr_willis> :)
[05:13] <_modem> no way to compare nedd 4 speed to tuxkart :)
[05:13] <_modem> *need
[05:13] <dr_willis> games are for the weak.
[05:14] <dr_willis> :P
[05:14] <_modem> jaja
[05:14] <sir_binary> which one of u masterminds has great understanding of the linux sound system
[05:14] <min> lol
[05:14] <min> Ill brb
[05:14] <dr_willis> The whole PC gaming scene is really starting to tick me off.
[05:14] <min> need to restart x
[05:14] <sir_binary> dr_willis:sugar is for the weak
[05:14] <dr_willis> Sugar is part of this Complete Breakfast!
[05:14] <dr_willis> :P
[05:15] <dr_willis> Sugar Frosted Sugar Cubes!~
[05:15] <sir_binary> i stand corrected ...be that as it is ....is it aslo not a "meal" on its own
[05:15] <_modem> haha
[05:16] <dr_willis> It is to my wife. :P
[05:16] <dr_willis> Pepsi + candy bar, or Donuts = her idea of a breakfast.
[05:16] <dr_willis> :P
[05:16] <dr_willis> shes about as hyper as a humming bird on cocaine.
[05:17] <sir_binary> i see u and i both have different understandings of the word"sugar"
[05:17] <sir_binary> as in candy make u dandy
[05:17] <sir_binary> who can make the sun shine?
[05:17] <dr_willis> as in 'come over here and give ya sugar daddy some suger!'
[05:17] <dr_willis> :P
[05:17] <sir_binary> the candy man can
[05:17] <SeanTater> where might I find some fonts for kde?
[05:18] <Healot>  tonight love infects worldwide...
[05:18] <sir_binary> have some sugar driz
[05:19] <min> what was the thing called?
[05:19] <min> xsomething?
[05:19] <min> it didnt work
[05:19] <min> xilaris?
[05:19] <min> what was it?
[05:20] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> what app can i use to capture images from my webcam ?
[05:20] <arcturus> sir_binary:  good link for sound - http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Hardware/Basic_sound_card_hardware_debuging
[05:20] <sir_binary> not mine driz ....urs ...in the kitchen ...top shelf
[05:20] <min> can someone scroll up and tell me the program that allows u to do dual monitor?
[05:21] <dr_willis> Xcineriam or twinview
[05:21] <Hawkwind> min: Xinerama ?
[05:21] <dr_willis> Ic an never spellit right.
[05:21] <min> k ty
[05:21] <Hawkwind> min: TwinView is if you have an Nvidia card
[05:21] <dr_willis> twinview is nvidias 'take' on xinerama
[05:21] <Healot> hum the answers all along
[05:21] <Hawkwind> dr_willis: Stop repeating me please :P
[05:21] <min> I have ati
[05:21] <Hawkwind> min: Then you have to do Xinerama
[05:21] <Healot> min: dual monitor means you need both monitor working :)
[05:21] <Hawkwind> LOL Healot
[05:22] <min> hm
[05:22] <Healot> since yours in poofed, we can help up to this part
[05:22] <min> yea
[05:22] <Healot> is*
[05:22] <min> ones cracked(baseball)
[05:22] <min> and theres no way turn it off
[05:22] <min> so might as well dual
[05:22] <Healot> min: repair it maybe?
[05:23] <min> nah
[05:23] <Healot> yeah it costs you something... but worth the pain
[05:23] <min> not paying another 1000 just for linux
[05:24] <dr_willis> 0_o
[05:26] <RandomDude15> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102176 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829117108 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102002 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829111001? which one of these 4 soundcards should I get if I want to dual boot XP and Kubuntu?
[05:27] <dr_willis> i reccomend creative cards.
[05:28] <dr_willis> they got them for all budgets. :P
[05:28] <OOD> don't get an X-FI though, won't work in linux
[05:29] <RandomDude15> I know that.
[05:29] <min> is Xinerama something u install or do u just have to state it in the xorg.conf file
[05:29] <RandomDude15>  Creative Sound Blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound Card - Retail  - hows that?
[05:29] <min> do u have to install it first?
[05:29] <min> is ti like a program?
[05:31] <dr_willis> I ve used the Audigy and Audigy 2 cards with no problems
[05:31] <dr_willis> got an Audigy2zs right now
[05:32] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: for the laptop?
[05:32] <unix_infidel> has anyone here gotten ati working with kubuntu?
[05:32] <unix_infidel> !ati
[05:32] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:32] <dr_willis> *#&# laptops :P
[05:32] <dr_willis> actually my laptops sound cards have always worked fine.
[05:32] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: ?
[05:33] <biffhero> unix_infidel: I am in the same boat, T41p
[05:33] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: the audigy is for the desktop?
[05:33] <unix_infidel> biffhero: it works no the t41p?
[05:33] <unix_infidel> i've got a t42 here
[05:33] <RandomDude15> dr_willis: sound blaster SB0570 Audigy SE 7.1 good for linux?
[05:33] <dr_willis> unix_infidel,  yes. he just posted a pci card as his 'hows that'
[05:33] <dr_willis> RandomDude15,  no clue on that specific card. if  its using the audigy chipset it should work fine
[05:34] <dr_willis> proberly overkill :P
[05:34] <unix_infidel> dr_willis: heh, yea, i need a pcmcia audio card for my laptop because i do audio production on it.
[05:34] <RandomDude15> well i think ill try it and if i dont like ill return it
[05:34] <unix_infidel> biffhero: ?
[05:34] <dr_willis> unix_infidel,  no clue there. :P
[05:34] <dr_willis> soud for me is just to hear my mp3's and  games. :P
[05:35] <OOD> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-Creative_Labs#matrix
[05:35] <OOD> it works fine, but the input isn't working
[05:35] <crimsun> RandomDude15: don't get it.
[05:35] <RandomDude15> which would you recommend for linux? 5.1 or 7.1?
[05:35] <crimsun> RandomDude15: it's an utter waste of money.
[05:36] <crimsun> ca0106/ca0106_main.c:193:	   .name   = "Audigy SE [SB0570] ",
[05:36] <min> yea
[05:36] <crimsun> ^^ signifies that it's a completely crippled card
[05:36] <min> the x thing isnt really working for me
[05:36] <crimsun> RandomDude15: what are your use cases?
[05:36] <min> do u have to install the x thing first before u state it in ur xorg.conf file?
[05:37] <RandomDude15> I have a speaker
[05:37] <RandomDude15> with a subwoofer
[05:37] <unix_infidel> biffhero: after installing the ati radeon drivers was standby mode not working or was it still functional?
[05:37] <RandomDude15> *2 speakers
[05:37] <RandomDude15> and currently using onboard motherboard
[05:37] <crimsun> RandomDude15: no, meaning what will you use it for?
[05:37] <dr_willis> i doubt if it will matter
[05:38] <dr_willis> you proberly aint going to be doing anything thta uses 5.1 or 7.1
[05:38] <BrigadierFrog> ok
[05:38] <BrigadierFrog> where are the qt3 libs at
[05:38] <BrigadierFrog> because it seems they aren't in /usr/lib ..
[05:39] <KaoticEvil> hi everyone :)
[05:40] <biffhero> unix: i have to put the kids to bed now, back in about 10 minute
[05:40] <sir_binary> i have this problem with my sound system ....the player is playing ...and the usual things like mute and so forth r positioned correctly ...yet i have no sound
[05:41] <crimsun> sir_binary: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat && amixer''
[05:44] <driz> later smart asses
[05:47] <dr_willis> 0_o
[05:47] <sir_binary> crimsun:did u waqnt me to send u the output
[05:48] <sir_binary> ?
[05:48] <crimsun> sir_binary: pastebin it, plesae
[05:48] <crimsun> please^
[05:48] <kkathman> howdy crimsun :)
[05:48] <crimsun> hi kkathman
[05:49] <crimsun> sir_binary: http://pastebin.ca for future reference, not private query :)
[05:50] <crimsun> sir_binary: now which sound card are you trying to use, the onboard or other?
[05:51] <sir_binary> other
[05:51] <KaoticEvil> how can sf.net be offline!? :(
[05:51] <crimsun> KaoticEvil: you mean, "when is it online?"
[05:51] <crimsun> sf.net is notorious for being unavailable when one needs to reach it
[05:52] <sir_binary> im using ICE1724
[05:53] <crimsun> sir_binary: ok, do you have alsa-tools-gui installed?
[05:54] <sir_binary> it is installing
[05:55] <crimsun> ok, then you'll need to use envy24control
[05:55] <crimsun> I don't have a card controlled by envy24control, so I can't help you beyond that, but there's plenty of assistance via Google
[05:56] <sir_binary> thuss
[05:56] <sir_binary> tchuss
[05:56] <crimsun> ...?
[05:56] <sir_binary> k thanks crimsun
[05:57] <sir_binary> uhh no ...consider thuss and tchuss censord
[05:57] <biffhero> unix_infidel: from some of the writings on the thinkwiki, I believe the latest drivers are able to work with suspend, et al.
[05:57] <KaoticEvil> crimsun: no, ive never had a problem with it being offline
[05:58] <KaoticEvil> but im trying to get gyachE, and i cant
[05:58] <biffhero> unix_infidel: meet me and one other person in #ati
[05:58] <crimsun> KaoticEvil: I've had problems over the past 5 years.
[05:59] <KaoticEvil> wierd
[05:59] <KaoticEvil> maybe its a mirror issue?
[06:00] <KaoticEvil> anyone know anything about printers?
[06:03] <Healot> apart from using them?
[06:03] <KaoticEvil> specifically installing them on kubuntu dapper
[06:04] <Healot> KDE menu -> System Setting -> Printer?
[06:04] <Healot> enter admin mode, select port type, printer type, driver
[06:05] <KaoticEvil> done all that
[06:05] <Healot> if you need network printing, you need to set up an TCP/IP port then
[06:05] <KaoticEvil> nah, its a local LPT1 printer
[06:05] <Healot> mmmkay the printer is?
[06:05] <KaoticEvil> HP Deskjet 820Cxi
[06:06] <Healot> what's the prblem you encounter?
[06:07] <KaoticEvil> im re-running the Add Printer wizard...
[06:07] <KaoticEvil> i cant recall the exact error.. i did it before, and didnt have net access yet as i hadnt set up ndiswrapper
[06:08] <Healot> ndiswrapper has nothing to do with printing...
[06:09] <KaoticEvil> i know
[06:09] <KaoticEvil> but i didnt have net access to get help at the time
[06:09] <KaoticEvil> ndiswrapper is for wireless drivers.. i know :)
[06:10] <Healot> I;ll wait until you figure out what really happened
[06:11] <KaoticEvil> if it ever loads the printer list...
[06:11] <thompa> my repos are f'ed
[06:12] <Ertain> Hello everyone.
[06:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> has anyone been able to install wine on dapper x64?
[06:13] <suea_> anyone here familiar with working with captive?
[06:13] <thompa> finally i got touchpad to die
[06:15] <suea> anyone here familiar with working with captive?
[06:16] <Ertain> I can't seem to get my tablet to work correctly.  Maybe some of you were here earlier today.  The darn thing thinks I'm doing a button press when I'm merely holding the stylus a centimeter above the writing field.
[06:16] <Healot> suea, it;s not supported by Ubuntu, but you can tell us what you're trying to do and problems you encountered
[06:17] <Healot> KaoticEvil, the printer list never load?
[06:18] <KaoticEvil> yeah, it takes a while tho
[06:19] <KaoticEvil> i got it loaded, and picked the right model... it gave me a choice of driver, and i picked the recommended one (it supports color as well as greyscale)
[06:20] <KaoticEvil> Healot: the error is: "Unable to create Foomatic driver [HP-Deskjet820c.pnm2ppa] . Either the driver does not exist or you don't have the required permissions"
[06:20] <moparisthebest> does anyone know            how I could get a clean boot? ssssssssssssomehow deleting my previous sesssion?
[06:20] <moparisthebest> i have obviously messed somthing up :P
[06:20] <moparisthebest> iiiiiiiiiiiii think i ended the wrong process or somtttttttttttthing
[06:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> yeah , id like to know tht too
[06:22] <kyle_> Does anyone know why I can't get my webcam working? it says "could not connect to video device(/dev/video0)"
[06:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kyle_: where r u trying to use your webcam?
[06:22] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kyle_: or how?
[06:23] <kyle_> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: I would like to use it for amsn or whatever. but I can't seem to get it to load properly
[06:24] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kyle_: hmm . most likely because of the driver , or your webcam is not /video0
[06:24] <BoSJo_> Hi all. trying to install my Printer [Brother MFC-8420]  following this description : http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/lpr_install.html
[06:25] <BoSJo_> bosjo@BoSJo:~/Downloads/Drivers/Brother$ rpm -ihv --nodeps mfc8420lpr-1.1.2-1.i386.rpm
[06:25] <BoSJo_> bash: rpm: command not found
[06:25] <BoSJo_> Wrong commands for Kubuntu or what?
[06:25] <_modem> are using a debian based distro?
[06:25] <_modem> BoSjo
[06:26] <_modem> rpm is for red hat based distros
[06:26] <BoSJo_> Using Kubunto....thats basically all i can telle you *LOL*
[06:26] <Healot> !alien
[06:26] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[06:26] <_modem> like mandriva
[06:26] <Healot> info alien
[06:27] <BoSJo_> ooooooooook, got much to learn :-) It's like learning to ride a bike
[06:27] <Healot> !info alien
[06:27] <ubotu> alien: install non-native packages with dpkg. In repository main, is optional. Version 8.64 (dapper), package size 101 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:27] <_modem> does any1 knows how to repair grub when it cant read the /boot/grub/stage1 file?
[06:28] <_modem> i cant re-install grub
[06:28] <KaoticEvil> Healot: did you see my above message with the error message?
[06:28] <_modem> when i try to install grub i have > The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[06:28] <_modem> any idea?
[06:29] <Healot> KaoticEvil: have you log on the Administrator Mode? in the printer control panel
[06:29] <kyle_> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: hmm I will try reinstalling the drivers but i don't think that's the prob.. amsn says tehre are no drivers installed apparently
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> yes, i have
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> i ran systemsettings with kdesu
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> clicking the Admin Mode button does nothing
[06:29] <Healot> seems like permission error
[06:29] <KaoticEvil> i dunno
[06:30] <Healot> KaoticEvil, just use the KDE menu > System Settings..
[06:30] <nixternal> ouch min..that doesn't look pretty
[06:30] <Healot> and then Click on the Admin mode...
[06:30] <nixternal> ow wow im stooopid..i was scrolled all the up top, chattin' to someone from hours ago ;)
[06:30] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> kyle_: try using it with other app , like camstream and see if it works , if it does it might be a config error , like the cam might be video1 intead of video0 or something like that
[06:32] <negocio> i need to install dosemu
[06:33] <negocio> anyone can help me please?
[06:33] <BoSJo_> _modem & ubotu : Hmmmm what do I do then??? they only have .rpm and .deb drivers for my printer??
[06:33] <_modem> use the .deb
[06:33] <_modem> .deb are for (k)ubuntu
[06:34] <BoSJo_> _modem: Ok, is that general for all drivers/files?
[06:34] <negocio> helping me installing dosemu please, anyone?
[06:34] <_modem> mmm i dont understand. .deb are debian packages
[06:34] <_modem> ubuntu is a debian-based distro
[06:35] <_modem> so, you can use .deb files
[06:35] <_modem> without problems
[06:35] <BoSJo_> _modem: ok, thanks...... sorry but i'm a totally baby (_!_) in the linux section ;-)
[06:35] <_modem> haha, dont problem
[06:36] <_modem> i-m not a grown up haha
[06:36] <_modem> but, does anyone knows how to repair the grub?
[06:37] <Hobbsee> !grub
[06:37] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:38] <negocio> hi
[06:38] <negocio> please i need some help to install dosemu
[06:39] <_modem> yeah, i know that. but my grub cant read the stage1 file
[06:39] <_modem> so, i cant re install it
[06:39] <_modem> (im with a live cd now)
[06:39] <_modem> when i try to re install grub (i did the chroot, etc) i have The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[06:40] <Hobbsee> _modem: ouch
[06:40] <_modem> but my partitions are ok :)
[06:40] <moparisthebest> anyone have an idea how to bootttttttttttttt with a fresh session?
[06:41] <moparisthebest> ive searched all over bbbbbbbbbbbbut cant find out how :(
[06:41] <negocio> ok, can anyone help me installing dosemu please
[06:41] <moparisthebest> and a bunch of strange things are happeninnnnnnnnnnnnng, such as the key holdddddddddddding thing
[06:41] <_modem> any idea?
[06:41] <moparisthebest> its damn annoying :P
[06:43] <KaoticEvil> AH! i can print now!!
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> sweet!
[06:44] <KaoticEvil> :D
[06:45] <negocio> help please installing dosemu
[06:45] <Hobbsee> hi KaoticEvil
[06:46] <kkathman> Hobbsee :)
[06:46] <Hobbsee> hi kkathman
[06:46] <kkathman> greets :)
[06:46] <OOD> _modem: check the second post: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[06:48] <OOD> negocio: start adept and search for dosemu and install the package
[06:48] <negocio> ok
[06:49] <_modem> lets see...
[06:49] <negocio> but i need to
[06:49] <negocio> make /home/negocio/dos as my c: with read/write options
[06:49] <negocio> how can i do that
[06:49] <OOD> so you have dosemu installed already?
[06:50] <_modem> i've tried that. but still
[06:50] <_modem> ...
[06:50] <negocio> ok ood
[06:50] <_modem> cant read the stage1 file
[06:51] <negocio> im searching
[06:51] <negocio> do i have to make a mount drive with vfat system filke
[06:52] <OOD> negocio: don't know, haven't used dosemu yet, check this site, the how-to should help you http://www.dosemu.org/
[06:54] <negocio> i check it
[06:54] <OOD> _modem: you sure you're not mixing up your hard drives?
[06:54] <negocio> but i cant make it work
[06:55] <_modem> i only have 1 hard drive. with 6 partitons
[06:55] <OOD> and you're giving grub the grub install the right partition?
[06:57] <_modem> yes. i tried with grub-install /dev/hdb (hdb is my hd)
[06:57] <OOD> i thought you only had 1 hard drive
[06:57] <_modem> i was repartioning my hd and the pc freezes, then, when i reboot, my grub didnt work
[06:58] <_modem> i only have 1 hd.
[06:58] <_modem> in hdb
[06:58] <OOD> then why would it be hdb
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> how is it hdb then?
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> it should be hda
[06:58] <OOD> it would be hda if it was 1 hard drive
[06:58] <KaoticEvil> hdb is primary slave, iirc
[06:58] <_modem> root@ubuntu:/# mount
[06:58] <_modem> /dev/hdb8 on / type ext3 (rw)
[06:58] <_modem> /dev/hdb9 on /home type ext3 (rw)
[06:58] <_modem> /dev/hdb1 on /windows type ntfs (ro,noatime,nodiratime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dm                                                                                                   ask=077,nls=cp437,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1)
[06:58] <_modem> /dev/hdb7 on /media/descargas type vfat (rw)
[06:59] <Hobbsee> !paste
[06:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:59] <_modem> yes, sorry about that
[07:01] <_modem> I bought my pc with hd in primary slave
[07:01] <Art_> Has anybody been able to get CUPSYS working in Kubuntu Dapper?
[07:03] <KaoticEvil> Art_: i just got mine working :)
[07:03] <Art_> KaoticEvil, What's the secret?
[07:03] <KaoticEvil> _modem: you may want to look into making it the primary master...
[07:03] <KaoticEvil> Art_: i dunno... i got an HP printer.. just ran the printer wizard as root and it worked...
[07:04] <Art_> KaoticEvil, As root?  OK, how do yu do that?
[07:04] <Art_> sudo su?
[07:04] <_modem> yes, maybe, but in the past (when i reinstall windows) i've reinstalled grub without problems. I think its beacuse the pc freezes when i was re-partioning the hd
[07:04] <KaoticEvil> Art_: open System Settings from the K menu
[07:04] <_modem> so the grub files are bad now
[07:05] <KaoticEvil> then click on Printers, and then the Administrator Mode button
[07:05] <Art_> KaoticEvil, OK, then?
[07:05] <OOD> that's possible, although if you can acces your partition then it's unlikely anything went wrong
[07:05] <Art_> KaoticEvil, Thanks, I'll give it a try.
[07:06] <KaoticEvil> Art_: i installed my printer... ran thru the Add printer Wizard
[07:06] <BoSJo> Errrrm, how do i log in as root (think i read that there werent any root user on Kubuntu), need to run command as root
[07:07] <OOD> use the sudo command
[07:07] <Art_> KaoticEvil, In the CUPS admin page?
[07:07] <KaoticEvil> yeah
[07:07] <BoSJo> OOD: ok, SUDO my command
[07:07] <_modem> look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16675
[07:08] <Art_> KaoticEvil, I always get "Authentication Failed".
[07:08] <OOD> yeah
[07:08] <Hobbsee> !root > BoSJo
[07:14] <__modem> hi again
[07:15] <__modem> well, i have to go bed. thank you to all you for the answers
[07:15] <__modem> see ya
[07:17] <ChefWill> hey Hobbsee
[07:17] <Hobbsee> hi ChefWill
[07:21] <ChefWill> WEP 40/104-bit hex
[07:21] <ChefWill> this would be considered this right: A0F79CE1E3
[07:21] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:21] <ubotu> pong
[07:21] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:21] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:21] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:21] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:21] <ubotu> pong
[07:21] <ChefWill> gosh :(
[07:22] <ChefWill> why does my wifi work flawyless w/ iwconfig + dhclient but not in knetworkmanager?
[07:31] <ChefWill> !ping
[07:31] <ubotu> pong
[07:32] <ChefWill> A0F79CE1E3 would be a hex wep key correct?
[07:32] <Hawkwind> It could be one of many many things actually
[07:32] <ChefWill> im pretty sure itts wep
[07:33] <ChefWill> i dont understand whats not working
[07:33] <ChefWill> i use iwconfig+dhclient thru command line it works
[07:33] <ChefWill> knetworkmanager doesnt
[07:33] <Hobbsee> ChefWill: that's hex, yeah
[07:33] <ChefWill> well whats the deal then
[07:34] <ChefWill> whats the diff between open system and shared key?
[07:35] <ubuntu> ol. algum do BR que possa me ajudar com uma dvida quanto a particionamento do kubuntu?
[07:36] <ChefWill> !es
[07:36] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:37] <ChefWill> er
[07:37] <ChefWill> !br
[07:37] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[07:37] <medeiros-br> obrigado.
[07:38] <Kr4t05> I'm having problems with my RCA Lyra RD1072A in Konqueror, is there anyway I can use a different file browser to move files to my MP3 player.
[07:40] <orient2000> Hi! I need some help. My dpkg process was interrupted. I need to run dpkg --configure -a but I do not have superuser privilages. How can I do that? Should I create account root?
[07:40] <ChefWill> if you dont have super user privaleges how do you plan on making root account
[07:42] <orient2000> I createt my login and password when I installed Linux. I do not know why I do not have these privilages.
[07:42] <mcrandello> !mp3
[07:42] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <orient2000> I am the only user.
[07:43] <ChefWill> then you do have super user
[07:43] <ChefWill> type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:43] <ChefWill> then type your users password
[07:44] <orient2000> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[07:45] <DocTomoe> maybe someone in here can help me with my dapper-apache2-php5-Problem (which is in no way connected to KDE) ... apache2 does not use php5 at my place, altought php5* and libapache2-mod-php5 is installed, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5* links to /etc/apache2/mods-avalible/php5* and the server has been restarted. all the server wants to spew out is the script source itself. any suggestions I could try?
[07:46] <moparisthebest> anyone ever try to install the sun java jdk with adept?
[07:46] <moparisthebest> it wont go past 20% on the installing window
[07:47] <DocTomoe> moparisthebest: worked for me
[07:48] <moparisthebest> i think its because i have to accept the user agreement DocTomoe
[07:48] <moparisthebest> but it wont let me hit enter in adept
[07:48] <moparisthebest> did you use apt-get maybe?
[07:49] <DocTomoe> moparisthebest: dang, I misread you. Yes, I am using apt-get (as I think adept is dramatically broken and should not be used).
[07:50] <moparisthebest> oh, well that explains why i just had to reinstall :P
[07:52] <DocTomoe> reinstalling because of adepts errors is not uncommon, happened to me, too: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112819
[07:56] <orient2000> what does it mean ID 1000 ?
[07:57] <moparisthebest> so how do you get a list of applicattion names DocTomoe ?
[07:58] <DocTomoe> moparisthebest: basically: apt-cache search [term to search] .
[07:58] <moparisthebest> oh, thanks :)
[07:58] <DocTomoe> try apt-cache search game ;) no need for sudo to perform an search.
[07:59] <DocTomoe> orient2000: id 1000 afair is the user id of the first system user in ubuntu
[08:00] <moparisthebest> great DocTomoe, it worked, thanks alot :)
[08:03] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:11] <sabaal> *Knock, knock.* Anyone here?
[08:11] <Melchiorre> me!
[08:11] <sabaal> Well, that's one.
[08:11] <crimsun> no, no one's here. We're just figments.
[08:12] <sabaal> I see.
[08:12] <sabaal> Perhaps I should come back when you've materialized.
[08:13] <sabaal> Excuse the hideously noobish question, but does anyone have a clue how I might enable MIDI playback? I'm no good with multimedia.
[08:13] <sabaal> And the figments fade away...
[08:13] <[TSK] > Greetings.  How about that?  I actually got Kubuntu up and running.  8)
[08:13] <Melchiorre> I've had absolutely no luck with midi, but you can try easy Ubuntu
[08:14] <Melchiorre> !easyubuntu
[08:14] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:14] <Hobbsee> sabaal: i'd try checking !restricted
[08:14] <Hobbsee> !restricted
[08:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:14] <thoreauputic> !midi
[08:14] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:14] <Hobbsee> ah
[08:14] <Melchiorre> [TSK] : congratulations! :)
[08:14] <sabaal> Well, how convenient. :D
[08:14] <[TSK] > Nice.  That's a slightly handy bot.
[08:15] <Hobbsee> yep :)
[08:15] <[TSK] > I've been using Mandriva Cooker on my main box and Mandriva 2006 on my servers up until now.
[08:16] <sabaal> This OS has made my life very happy (mostly because I've just surfaces from a whirlpool of MS screw-over-ing).
[08:17] <sabaal> No hands-on experience yet, but I hear that Vista is a step backwards. You can expect quite a flood of activity here when thousands of people switch to Linux. :P
[08:18] <[TSK] > Kinda nice how quickly Kubuntu took to 99.9% of my hardware.  It even autoconfigured the network.  That's a bit slick.
[08:18] <sabaal> I wish I could say the same.
[08:18] <[TSK] > Vista is a step forward in eye-candy from what I've heard, but a step backward on ever other aspect.
[08:18] <sabaal> I've had to get my hands dirty with ndiswrapper, with a Netgear WiFi adapter.
[08:18] <[TSK] > Supposedly the DRM on Vista is going to be utterly out of control.
[08:18] <sabaal> Almost made me vomit.
[08:18] <orient2000> If I have ID1000 why I do not have supersuser privilages?
[08:19] <sabaal> Yeah, I'm a total moron. What's DRM?
[08:19] <[TSK] > Superuser is ID0 innit?
[08:19] <sabaal> I thought so too.
[08:19] <[TSK] > DRM = Digital Rights Management
[08:19] <sabaal> *Checks some stuff...*
[08:20] <[TSK] > It means if you BUY a song (regardless of where you bought it or how LEGAL it is) that you can ONLY play that song in Vista, and if you try to copy it to your MP3 player to take with you to work, then you must get PERMISSION from Micro$loth.
[08:20] <sabaal> Ouch. :/
[08:20] <[TSK] > Vista supposedly also allows Micro$loth to examine the contents of your hard disk pretty much at will too.  I can do without that thank you very much.  8)
[08:21] <sabaal> Sounds like a pain in the... however you spell "key-stir".
[08:21] <sabaal> You know why they're doing that, right?
[08:21] <sabaal> MS tech support needs new porn. :P
[08:23] <sabaal> Yeah, I'm showing root as ID0. My personal account, on the other hand, is 1000.
[08:23] <[TSK] > M$ tech support needs a format and reinstall...  8-/
[08:23] <Hobbsee> sabaal: about that netgear wifi adapter - what model is it?
[08:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> microsoft tech support needs to learn how to speak english
[08:23] <sabaal> WG111T
[08:23] <sabaal> They've outsourced everything.
[08:23] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> thus, the problem
[08:23] <sabaal> Even their Xboxes are made in Mexico.
[08:23] <Hobbsee> !wifi
[08:23] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:24] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> you call tech support asking a simple question
[08:24] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> they couldnt answer it if their life depended on it
[08:24] <[Evil] [Ernie] _> 2 weeks later you happen across the answer
[08:24] <sabaal> I got angry a while ago, decided I'd call them.
[08:24] <[TSK] > Sweet!  Kubuntu actually comes with an OpenOffice document of a CD cover I can print for the CD case!  That's cute.  8)
[08:24] <sabaal> "Dude, your freakin' Windows XP installer just deleted my Linux partition, and now I can't boot. I think you owe me a new harddrive."
[08:25] <sabaal> "Sorry, but we don't provide support for other operatin systems."
[08:25] <sabaal> Wait... it does?
[08:25] <Hobbsee> sabaal: not sure if it uses the same chipset of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111 but the instructions should be fairly close
[08:25] <sabaal> That's awesome! :D
[08:25] <sabaal> Oh, no, I'm not experiencing any problems. In fact, I'm using it right now.
[08:25] <Hobbsee> sabaal: nice!
[08:26] <sabaal> I just commented that it was a pain in the ass to get it this way. :P
[08:26] <Hobbsee> ah :P
[08:26] <Hobbsee> sabaal: how so?
[08:27] <[TSK] > Nice.  Actually, it seems the Kubuntu DVD comes with quite a lot of nifty bits in the 'example-content' folder.  I'm exploring it right now.  If this lives up to what I've seen so far, then I might actually have found my replacement for Mandriva Linux.  8)
[08:27] <sabaal> Ndiswrapper's docs aren't very clear on what order hardware should be connected/detected/installed/etc. I had to reboot several times because of what I could only guess was a kernel panic.
[08:27] <sabaal> And I don't even know what a kernel panic is. :P
[08:27] <Hobbsee> sabaal: ouch.  kernel panics dont usually happen
[08:27] <Hobbsee> sabaal: linux form of a BSoD
[08:27] <sabaal> Ah. :P
[08:27] <sabaal> Well, I think I might actually be using corrupted drivers.
[08:27] <sabaal> I still have to modprobe ndiswrapper every time I boot.
[08:27] <Hobbsee> sabaal: want to pastebin lspci please?
[08:28] <Hobbsee> i'm not sure what chipset that model is
[08:28] <sabaal> ...What?
[08:28] <MistaED> hmm, i have a few wg111's lying around... i take it the kernel has no native prism driver support for it? :(
[08:28] <sabaal> Nope. Not that I'm aware of, any way.
[08:28] <sabaal> If it does, I will be very angry.
[08:28] <Hobbsee> sabaal: kdesu kwrite /etc/modules, add "ndiswrapper" on a new line, and hit enter - that'll solve the bootup one
[08:29] <Hobbsee> MistaED: it may not be a prism card
[08:29] <MistaED> i remember looking up a site where someone gutted one out and was reverse-engineering it
[08:29] <Hobbsee> sabaal: in a console, type lspci
[08:29] <sabaal> Hobbsee: Ah, I'll try that. Thanks.
[08:29] <MistaED> hobbsee: yeah, they're a bit flaky when it comes to what chipset they're using with different versions of the same model =/
[08:29] <Hobbsee> sabaal: it'll give you a whole lot of data - copy the bit that says about an ethernet controller, or just paste the entire thing at pastebin.ca and give us the link
[08:30] <Hobbsee> MistaED: yeah, netgear's a terror for that - i've got a wg511v2 made in china one :P
[08:30] <MistaED> like this other wg511 china pcmcia i have, i still don't know if it's a prism
[08:30] <MistaED> heh
[08:30] <Hobbsee> no, made in china ones use the marvell chipset
[08:30] <MistaED> oh, that's probably why
[08:30] <Hobbsee> which, fortunately, there's a freebsd versoin of
[08:31] <MistaED> i remember using some smc driver with ndiswrapper last time to make it work
[08:31] <sabaal> lspci says: "Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado]  (rev 78)"
[08:31] <Hobbsee> listed on the wg511v2 made in china wiki page, if you're interested
[08:31] <Hobbsee> hmmm..that's useful of it, i'm not sure what chipset that is.
[08:32] <[TSK] > Well, I'm enjoting so far that Kubuntu is choosing all my favorite viewers for various media files by DEFAULT without having to be TOLD that Kaffeine is my preferred video player.  8)
[08:32] <[TSK] > *enjoying
[08:32] <ChefWill> Hobbsee:  :(
[08:33] <sabaal> Kaffeine's been giving me some crap lately.
[08:33] <MistaED> does ndiswrapper support WPA at all?
[08:33] <sabaal> Depends on what WPA is.
[08:33] <sabaal> :P
[08:33] <[TSK] > sabaal: Really?  The latest versions of Kaffeine have been running perfectly for me.
[08:33] <sabaal> I'm a moron, remember?
[08:33] <[TSK] > WPA is a wireless security measure
[08:34] <sabaal> [TSK] : It's kinda finnicky with me about whether or not to display a file's video stream.
[08:34] <[TSK] > sabaal: Are you actually a moron, or are you just uneducated?  There IS a difference you know...  8)
[08:34] <Cornellius> I can't see my WIndows XP partition from Ubuntu
[08:34] <Cornellius> I have a 250 G that I splitted in 2. 125 G (NTFS XP) and 125 G (Ubuntu)
[08:35] <sabaal> [TSK] : Well, I'm definitely no moron. That's just a generic phrase I use online in place of a shrug. :P
[08:36] <[TSK] > <sabaal> I'm a moron, remember?  <- Don't say this if it isn't true.  It gives people the wrong impression about you...  8)
[08:36] <[TSK] >  /tease sabaal
[08:37] <sabaal> [TSK] : I find that it's usually easier to deal with people when they think you're much less intelligent than you are. People like thinking they know things.
[08:37] <[TSK] > Just kidding, sir.  If you are using Linux then you can't be a moron.  8)
[08:37] <sabaal> [TSK] : Ah, good point. :D
[08:38] <sabaal> *Is sweating all over the place.* Is it possible for it to get HOTTER at night?
[08:39] <[TSK] > Aye.  It is possible...  Don't ask questions like that or it WILL get hotter.  8)
[08:39] <sabaal> As it just did. Wonderful.
[08:39] <sabaal> *Soaks his shirt.*
[08:40] <sabaal> Well, you don't have it too bad. :P
[08:40] <[TSK] > I'm thinking about getting a little hover-fan to follow me around everywhere I go.  8)
[08:40] <sabaal> Yer gonna spend a fortune in batteries for something like that.
[08:40] <[TSK] > Solar powered mebbe?
[08:40] <[TSK] > 8)
[08:41] <sabaal> But what will you do when it gets hotter at night?
[08:41] <[TSK] > Hmmm...  Mebbe I should just move outta Utah...  I hate it here anyways...  8)
[08:41] <sabaal> Yeah, I lived there for a while.
[08:42] <sabaal> Impossible to make enough money.
[08:42] <[TSK] > Anyone here from Australia that wants to hire a good Linux network tech?  8)
[08:42] <sabaal> Wait...
[08:42] <sabaal> ...you live in front of your fan, but you want to go to Australia?
[08:42] <sabaal> *Looks for the sense in that.* :P
[08:42] <[TSK] > I didn't say I hated Utah because of the heat.  I hate Utah for OTHER reasons.  The heat I can tolerate..  8)
[08:43] <sabaal> As long as you have a solar-powered hover fan.
[08:43] <[TSK] > LOL
[08:43] <antinobody> There are many reasons to hate Utah.
[08:43] <antinobody> Besides, Australia wouldn't be that warm now
[08:43] <antinobody> he could just migrate, like birds, only backwards
[08:43] <sabaal> No?
[08:43] <antinobody> It's winter
[08:44] <MistaED> sydney is a bit chilly atm yeah
[08:44] <sabaal> Oh, yeah. Forgot about the hemisphere thing.
[08:44] <antinobody> I never could figure out how that worked astro-physically
[08:44] <[TSK] > I hate to be prejudiced against a whole GROUP of people as I'm not a bigot or anything, but the god's honest truth is that the main thing I've learned to hate about Utah is the Mormons.  I didn't used to hate them, but they've TAUGHT me to hate them over many years.
[08:44] <sabaal> The Earth rotates on a tilted axis, right?
[08:45] <antinobody> sabaal: Yeah, but it also orbits an ellipse
[08:45] <antinobody> sabaal: you'd think that would have a bigger effect
[08:45] <antinobody> sabaal: Obviously it doesn't so I'm missing something
[08:45] <sabaal> At this distance, not really.
[08:45] <antinobody> mmm, perhaps
[08:45] <antinobody> [TSK] : Mormons have to be good at something, right?
[08:45] <sabaal> As the Earth orbits the sun, that axis doesn't rotate with it. So at one point in orbit, the bottom half is tilted more towards the sun, and the top half is tilted away.
[08:46] <[TSK] > The other thing I've learned to hate about Utah is the wages here.  I have YET to find a job here that's willing to actually pay a person a fair wage for the work they expect.
[08:46] <antinobody> [TSK] : It just happens to be annoying people
[08:46] <sabaal> And winning Jeopardy.
[08:46] <sabaal> And being my mother. :/
[08:46] <antinobody> sabaal: Really, how many mormons are your mother?
[08:46] <nm_chili> antinobody: no, the orbit doesn't have much effect. The sun's energy doesn't drop in intensity very much due to such a small distance (astronomically speaking). The fact that the energy has to go through more of the Earth's atmosphere when a hemisphere is tilted away from the sun has a much greater impact.
[08:46] <[TSK] > Every job I've had here expects a person to do the work of 2 people and only wants to pay half the wages that one person should get for half the work.  It's insane.
[08:47] <sabaal> antinobody: Two. My biological mother, and my bishop, who nags like a woman.
[08:47] <antinobody> nm_chili: That helps.  Granted, I'm an Environmental Engineering student, not an astrophysicist, so I only care because I'm obsessive
[08:47] <antinobody> sabaal: You know, you got that "nagging" terminology from a very mormon-like mindset
[08:48] <[TSK] > LOL
[08:48] <antinobody> sabaal: It's been my experience women "nag" no more than men
[08:48] <sabaal> antinobody: Lucky you. :P
[08:49] <sabaal> Holy vomit-inducing painkillers, it's HOT!
[08:49] <[TSK] > Welcome to Global Warming, folks.  It's only gonna get hotter (until the ice-age hits)...  8)
[08:50] <sabaal> See, someone's got it.
[08:50] <sabaal> People don't seem to realize that global warming is natural.
[08:50] <[TSK] > Hahahah!
[08:50] <antinobody> sabaal: where I live there's a slightly lesser-degree of gender-stereotyping, so it may be that they become less inclined to copy the expectation of "naggin".  Also, it's framed differently
[08:50] <sabaal> "We're coming out of a freakin' ice age! Of course it's getting warmer!"
[08:51] <sabaal> antinobody: By the way, where might you live?
[08:51] <antinobody> sabaal: Portland OR, al momento
[08:51] <[TSK] > Sure it's natural, but we've been accellerating the natural phenomenon by spewing our greenhouse gases into the air.  The planet will respond by trying to balance out the imbalance.  Result?  Another Ice Age.  8)
[08:51] <sabaal> antinobody: Ah, Oregon. One of the few states I don't remember being in.
[08:52] <[TSK] > Just wait and see.  We'll all be moving toward the equator for warmth soon.  8)
[08:52] <cvt|expert> i installed mplayer, gxine, totem, vlc and still can't play videos. how can play videos?
[08:52] <antinobody> sabaal: Although the town I come from is fairly rural, (Portland is Oregon's "big city"), so I've seen both ends of Oregon's sociology
[08:52] <cvt|expert> breezy badger
[08:52] <antinobody> !RestrictedFormats
[08:52] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <[TSK] > cvt|expert: What kind of videos?  DVDs?  Windows Media Files?
[08:52] <sabaal> WMV was a pain too. :P
[08:52] <cvt|expert> wmv, avi, mpg, mov, etc.
[08:53] <cvt|expert> i can't play any
[08:53] <Hobbsee> antinobody: it's not, it's about 15C here...
[08:53] <[TSK] > avi and mpg should play out of the box, no?  Those are fairly standardized formats last I heard.
[08:53] <antinobody> Hobbsee: It's roughly 23C at midnight here, 15C is cooler
[08:53] <sabaal> MPG? That's strange. I never had to do anything to make those work.
[08:53] <Hobbsee> !mpg
[08:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <Hobbsee> !wmv
[08:54] <sabaal> Well, AVI commonly uses proprietary (sp?) codecs, does it not?
[08:54] <Hobbsee> hmmm...that must be covered in restricted too then
[08:54] <antinobody> Hobbsee: it is
[08:54] <Hobbsee> yeah, that's the problem - the proprietary codecs - not how popular they all are
[08:54] <[TSK] > Well, that's true, but I've not had any troubles playing any AVI files I've found under Linux.
[08:55] <sabaal> Yeah, me neither. That's kinda strange.
[08:55] <antinobody> TSK:  That tends to depend on what exact encoder was used for the AVI
[08:55] <antinobody> some of them are free, some are not (I think)
[08:55] <[TSK] > The only files I had any troubles with under Linux were the Windows Media formats and the QuickTime formats, and both of those are becoming easier to play as time goes on.
[08:55] <antinobody> Or I'm wrong again, which happens often
[08:55] <antinobody> ask Hobbsee
[08:55] <sabaal> DivX and XviD are pretty common, and I don't think those are included, are they?
[08:55] <[TSK] > Oh, and of course DVD...
[08:55] <Hobbsee> sabaal: no idea
[08:56] <Hobbsee> dvd's also covered in restricted
[08:56] <[TSK] > That one was a problem until I learned about libdvdcss or whatever
[08:56] <sabaal> Now I remember why I like IRC so much more than forums.
[08:57] <sabaal> I just solved everything that was wrong with my system, and then a bit more.
[08:57] <sabaal> In half an hour.
[08:57] <Hobbsee> sabaal: they're correct
[08:57] <MistaED> 15C during the day in sydney is alright, but here in campbelltown (near sydney) the mornings are still cold getting up =/
[08:57] <[TSK] > I'ma have to remember that the bot here is loaded full of useful links...  That's gonna come in handy when I install Kubuntu dual-boot on this system.  8)
[08:57] <orient2000> How can I rip DVD's into avi?
[08:57] <Cornellius> CaptiveNTFS ftw ! http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[08:57] <cvt|expert> do you know how to play wmv?
[08:58] <sabaal> WMVs need a Windows codec, I believe.
[08:58] <Hobbsee> sabaal: forum's arent bad with the search though - *if* you know what info is right, and what isnt.  which kinda negates the purpose, as if you already knew, why would you look them up?
[08:58] <emonkey> Ido playing wmv with vlc
[08:58] <Hobbsee> !wmv > cvt|expert
[08:58] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : very :)
[08:58] <[TSK] > Ripping DVDs isn't usually a good topic for Free Open Source channels.  You can find channels that will discuss that sort of thing, but Open Source channels usually try to avoid topics like that one.  8)
[08:58] <emonkey> !wmv > emonkey
[08:58] <emonkey> nice query answer 
[08:59] <sabaal> Is that a Japanese character?
[08:59] <sabaal> Haha.
[08:59] <[TSK] > Looks like one
[08:59] <sabaal> How clever.
[08:59] <sabaal> It is.
[08:59] <emonkey> don't now
[08:59] <sabaal> Katakana. I forget which one.
[08:59] <sabaal> Tsu, I think.
[08:59] <Hobbsee> it's a favorite character of one of the ops
[08:59] <sabaal> I never thought of that. :P
[08:59] <[TSK] > Ya, me neither
[08:59] <antinobody> Ugh, I need to start studying my Japanese this weekend
[08:59] <[TSK] > That's VERY creative use of foreign language content.  8)
[09:00] <antinobody> I should stop jumping into foreign language programs mid-way through, it's a bad idea
[09:00] <emonkey> Orginally the idea isn't from me... I've seen that by another user in this channel
[09:00] <sabaal> Isn't there a KDE language learning app?
[09:01] <Hobbsee> i think so
[09:02] <emonkey> kwordquiz - flashcard and vocabulary learning program for KDE
[09:02] <sabaal> That won't do much beyond alphabet and vocab.
[09:02] <sabaal> But then, not many programs could.
[09:02] <[TSK] > SuhWEET!!!  Amarok comes on the Kubuntu DVD!  My FAVORITE MP3 manager by FAR.  8)
[09:03] <sabaal> Yeah, it's pretty much standard now.
[09:03] <sabaal> I think it was even running on the default session after I installed. :P
[09:04] <[TSK] > Okay, I think I might like Kubuntu this time around.  I didn't like it that much last time I tried it, but it sure does seem quite a lot more 'polished' and 'professional' than it was a year and a half ago.  I'm REALLY LIKING the default choices of software this time around.
[09:05] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : ah, yeah...a lot happens in a year and a half. that would be the hoary release you last tried with, presumably - the first for kubuntu
[09:05] <[TSK] > It's just acting a lot more 'integrated' than it used to.  More like it's supposed to be.  8)
[09:06] <sabaal> And it uses the Crystal window decoration, with custom buttons. That made me very, very happy.
[09:06] <[TSK] > Aye.  It was back when Ubuntu with KDE was still a pretty new idea...  They hadn't really gotten it all fit together all that well back then.  8)
[09:07] <[TSK] > It surely is leaps and bounds ahead of where it started out tho.  It's really looking quite slick now.  I'ma have to pass this DVD around a bit once I'm done with it.  8)
[09:08] <[TSK] > Ah, nice...  And OpenOffice 2.0 with KDE extensions.  VERY nice.  I'm happy about that one for sure.  8)
[09:08] <[TSK] > Might have finally swayed me away from Mandriva...  This is really looking nice so far.
[09:09] <sabaal> I've never tried Mandriva. What are the differences?
[09:10] <MistaED> the kubuntu live cd i tried yesterday seems far more polished, i can't say i like the kwin theme though, too bubbly with the wrong shade of blue, but the rest of it seems much better than when i used it last time
[09:12] <[TSK] > Mandriva was a RedHat based distro in it's earlier days, but they've since bought out Lycoris and ummm...  Connectiva and have since been adding those technologies to their own.  It's gotten to be quite a nice distro, but truth be told, I've been seeking a distro that requires less customization to be useful.  Mandriva fills all my needs, but it takes a fair bit of customization to get it to the point I like.  Looks like Kubuntu will re
[09:12] <[TSK] > out of a desktop.  It's already mostly there by default.  8)
[09:13] <orient2000> How can I find out what programs are runing in a memory and how can I kill some application. Something is runing and interrupting my update manager.
[09:13] <[TSK] > Well, as for blue, I'm dead sick to death of the color blue thanks to my years of hating Windoze.  I'd LOVE to see a better choice of colors for Kubuntu, but other'n that, I like what I see so far.  8)
[09:13] <sabaal> ksysguard, if I'm not mistaken. Should be in your K Menu somewhere.
[09:14] <sabaal> Under System, apparently.
[09:14] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : it's easy enough to change, and they're likely to change for the next release
[09:14] <orient2000> thanks
[09:14] <[TSK] > orient2000: KSysGuard (Ctrl-Alt-Esc I believe) if you are working in a GUI, or 'top' or 'pstree' or 'ps' will work if you are working in a shell.
[09:14] <Hobbsee> orient2000: type top, and k then the number of the app that you want to kill, then hit enter
[09:15] <[TSK] > Ctrl-Alt-Esc = XKill...  Sorry.  Wrong key combination.  Don't click anything after using those keys.
[09:15] <MistaED> [TSK] : the oxygen icon group discovered there are more colours in the spectrum than just blue!
[09:15] <[TSK] > Hit escape instead.
[09:16] <[TSK] > Hrm...  What IS the key combination to run KSysGuard in Kubuntu?  It was Ctrl-Alt-Esc under Mandriva.  I just assumed that was a KDE default...  8)
[09:16] <emonkey> Ctrl-Esc
[09:16] <Hobbsee> ctrl+alt+delete?
[09:17] <[TSK] > Ah!  It's Ctrl-Esc as emonkey said.
[09:17] <sabaal> I have Ctrl+Alt+Del, but I think I might have done that manually.
[09:17] <sabaal> I don't even remember any more. :P
[09:17] <[TSK] > Ctrl-Alt-Del is manually configured for sure, as it usually runs the reboot process under most Linux's I've ever tried.  8)
[09:18] <sabaal> Ah, that makes sense.
[09:18] <sabaal> Win+Esc does that for me. :P
[09:19] <sabaal> Oh, wait, that's the logout prompt.
[09:19] <sabaal> Crap, I don't even know my own hotkeys!
[09:20] <[TSK] > Win-Esc does nothing on mine, but I haven't had time to customize yet.  I'm holding off on that until I get Kubuntu installed onto the HD.  8)
[09:21] <sabaal> Oh, you're running off the DVD?
[09:21] <[TSK] > Gnome?  Gnome???  Ewwwwwww...  (Just teasing)
[09:21] <[TSK] > Aye.  I'm running off the live DVD at the moment.  Testing around a bit.  Exploring.  8)
[09:21] <MistaED> [TSK] : i prefer orange to blue atm, hehe
[09:22] <sabaal> Gnomes are short. Crowded elevators smell much different to them.
[09:22] <[TSK] > EWWWW!
[09:22] <sabaal> Haha.
[09:22] <[TSK] > 10 yard penalty for roughing the listeners with icky visuals...  8)
[09:22] <sabaal> *Types ten yards of text.*
[09:23] <sabaal> Or perhaps I shouldnt...
[09:24] <antinobody> sabaal: Would you measure that as a text line, or ten yards of paper-filled text?
[09:24] <[TSK] > LOL
[09:25] <sabaal> Screen space. Ten yards of pixels filled with text in my smallest font, at my highest resolution, on my smallest monitor.
[09:25] <[TSK] > Sweet.  I found Kopete.
[09:25] <sabaal> Found?
[09:25] <sabaal> Where did it go?
[09:26] <[TSK] > Different menu layout a bit from Mandriva.  Things are easier to find here once I've located them for the first time.  Was used to seeking things deep in crazy menu trees.  8)
[09:27] <sabaal> Why not just use Katapult. I think that's running by default on the DVD.
[09:28] <[TSK] > Katawhat?  Never heard of it.
[09:28] <sabaal> Really?
[09:29] <sabaal> Hit Alt+Space.
[09:29] <sabaal> And type the name of a program.
[09:29] <sabaal> Or a mathematical equation.
[09:29] <[TSK] > Really?  Hmmm...  What's this?
[09:29] <[TSK] > O really?
[09:29] <sabaal> Or a file in your home folder.
[09:29] <[TSK] > Hmmm.
[09:29] <sabaal> It does lots of stuff. :D
[09:29] <[TSK] > This could be entertaining.
[09:29] <[TSK] > New toy...  8)
[09:30] <sabaal> I think you can even add your own, although I've never looked for the config file to try.
[09:30] <MistaED> does kubuntu/kde run with less ram than ubuntu/gnome? i'm curious to whoever has tested it on low ram (128mb)
[09:30] <sabaal> I've never used Gnome before.
[09:30] <[TSK] > I usually have a little command launcher on my taskbar, and Yakuake and Kompose running, but I've not yet heard of Katapult before.  This is a new toy to me.  8)
[09:31] <sabaal> Yes, it's quite useful.
[09:31] <sabaal> If you run out of space for hotkeys, Alt+Space is your catch-all.
[09:32] <[TSK] > Looks like another new toy to add to my 'must-have' list.
[09:37] <[TSK] > Really nice little collection of example files on the Live DVD too.  I really like that.  That'll be handy for the newbies I give copies of this DVD to.  8)
[09:39] <cvt|expert> Hobbsee, thx. that worked.
[09:39] <Hobbsee> :)
[09:39] <[TSK] > Turning out to be quite a newbie friendly distro so far actually.  The more I look it over the more convinced I am that this is the distro I should start carrying around to show to friends when they ask about Linux.  8)
[09:41] <sabaal> I converted two of my friends in the last month. Neither of them had ever set foot outside of Windows before.
[09:41] <visik7> anyone with an asus V6J ?
[09:41] <sabaal> I'm currently helping one install ZSNES from source. :D
[09:42] <unix_infidel> sabaal: why, when there's perfectly good binaries available.
[09:42] <sabaal> Are there?
[09:42] <sabaal> I haven't run across any.
[09:42] <[TSK] > Emulators are a good way to convince gamers...  I've got one friend who couldn't care less about Windoze games anymore cause he's too busy reliving the 'old days' of vidgaming on various emulators.  8)
[09:42] <sabaal> Haha.
[09:42] <unix_infidel> sabaal: i'm apt-getting them right now.
[09:42] <sabaal> How 'bout emulating an emulator?
[09:43] <sabaal> I found last week that VisualBoyAdvance actually runs faster when I run the EXE version under Wine. :P
[09:43] <unix_infidel> sabaal: yea, i run visualboyadvance under windows...
[09:43] <[TSK] > Well, I've emulated an Amiga inside a VMware WinXP install just to see if it could be done.  8)
[09:43] <unix_infidel> sabaal: the only thing that sucks about zsnes is the opengl stuff.
[09:43] <sabaal> You don't have to tell me.
[09:44] <sabaal> I'm using... I think the first ATI Radeon that was ever made. Not the first model, but the very first unit.
[09:44] <sabaal> It sees OpenGL, and just fills the screen with question marks.
[09:44] <cvt|expert> this is how i got to make mplayer play wmv files for anyone who needs it: http://tinyurl.com/zjm8e
[09:45] <unix_infidel> good thing i finallly got some nvidia support for my mx400
[09:45] <unix_infidel> gf2 biatch.... :)
[09:45] <[TSK] > Hmmm...  This package manager looks kinda slick.  I still think I might install SmartPM tho.  I've gotten used to it.  8)
[09:46] <[TSK] > Hey, speaking of nVidia...  Is it easy to get the nVidia drivers up and running under Kubuntu / Ubuntu / Debian?
[09:47] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : took less than a minute here...
[09:47] <[TSK] > Also...  How Debian compatible is Ubuntu overall?  Can I install packages from Debian sources without wrecking my Kubuntu install?
[09:48] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : its not advised, but it depends on the package.
[09:48] <Blissex> [TSK] : if you are really really really good with APT and understand it inside out it is doable.
[09:48] <unix_infidel> people who need specific commonly used software report that things that are backported from debian sid work quite well.
[09:48] <unix_infidel> then we use them :)
[09:48] <[TSK] > Ah.  Aighty.  So kinda like Mandriva and Redhat then.  A few packages are compatible, but most will require fiddling and tweaking?
[09:49] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : nothing like RH and mandriva.
[09:49] <Blissex> [TSK] : yes, about like Mandriva and RedHat but not as bad _if you use source .debs_.
[09:49] <unix_infidel> we spend more time actually using our computers and not fiddling with them :)
[09:49] <unix_infidel> Blissex: you dont have to be great with apt, just be able to use a text editor and a command line.
[09:49] <[TSK] > Under Mandriva, one can install a few Redhat RPMs, but most will require fiddling to get them working right due to small internal differences between the two distros.
[09:50] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : that usually causes more breakage then does debian and ubuntu packages.
[09:50] <Blissex> [TSK] : anyhow the big deal is that Ubuntu is based on 'unstable' which is based on a completely different set of base libraries than Debian, which currently is 'Sarge'.
[09:50] <Blissex> unix_infidel: you have to be great with APT to understand dependencies, how to fix and how to do pinning.
[09:51] <Blissex> unix_infidel: and how to fix issues when compiling source packages too.
[09:51] <[TSK] > Ah.  I see.  I can handle that then.  Tho I may need to come back and ask a few questions now and again.  8)
[09:51] <unix_infidel> uhh, that's just basic package management dude.
[09:52] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : questions are always welcome, doesnt mean they'll get answered right away :)
[09:52] <[TSK] > So, are .debs of Google Earth available yet?  Only asking because .RPMs of it just showed up on Mandriva PLF sources in Cooker the other day and I'm kinda excited about that.  8)
[09:52] <Blissex> [TSK] : crazy guy, but I have done some Ubuntu-repos-for-Debian sample configs.
[09:52] <Blissex> [TSK] : http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/APT/
[09:53] <[TSK] > Right on.  Thanks much for that info.  I'ma write that down for later use.  8)
[09:54] <jason> hello yall
[09:55] <[TSK] > Greetings, jason
[09:55] <jason> I've come from the far away land of suse 10.1, in search of something new
[09:56] <[TSK] > Y'all?  You from one of the western states I'm guessing?  8)
[09:56] <jason> actually i'm from ottawa
[09:56] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : we'ere from all over the world.
[09:56] <[TSK] > I've come here from Mandriva Linux myself.  First time booting Kubuntu in about a year and a half.
[09:57] <[TSK] > Ottawa?  Right on.  I've not heard anyone say "y'all" since I left Montana.  8)
[09:57] <Hobbsee> hi jason
[09:57] <jason> well I was half joking about yall
[09:57] <Hobbsee> wow, you got suse to install..
[09:57] <jason> heh
[09:57] <jason> and many times
[09:57] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : i think there are, maybe, there's a howto on ubuntuforums.com for that
[09:58] <[TSK] > unix_infidel: I kinda guessed we had folks from all over the world here...  This is after all a Linux channel...  8)
[09:58] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : fortunately we have one of the former mandriva ops in here.
[09:58] <jason> is there a good source of recent sources.list additions?
[09:58] <unix_infidel> he's been active in mandriva for a long time and now he's testing KUbuntu.  You might know him.  He's the founder of the SeerOfSouls repo.
[09:59] <[TSK] > Seriously?  Hawkwind is here??
[09:59] <unix_infidel> :P
[09:59] <[TSK] > OMG!  It's Hawkwind!!
[09:59] <[TSK] > Right ON!!  He's the greatest!  8)
[09:59] <Hobbsee> !repos > jason
[10:00] <[TSK] > Hawkwind rulez!  I'ma start a Hawkwind fan-club right now!  Who wanna join?  8)
[10:00] <Hobbsee> jason: one big list of repos - not using random repos from everywhere
[10:01] <jason> thanks
[10:01] <[TSK] > How's Kubuntu on laptops?  Lotta work to get it going, or fairly happy straight outta the gate?
[10:02] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : depends on the laptop.
[10:02] <unix_infidel> except for the ati video driver's mine is almost 100%
[10:02] <[TSK] > Older laptop.  Sony.
[10:02] <unix_infidel> should do just fine.
[10:03] <[TSK] > Right on.  I only ask because my roomate has a WinME powered laptop that's getting SERIOUSLY unreliable at the software level (hardware's still just fine).  8)
[10:03] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : possible multimedia keys not working, possible lack of suspend and/or hibernate.  the rest shoudl work.
[10:03] <[TSK] > They wanna try out Linux, and I'm thinking Kubuntu might be the Linux to start them out on.  8)
[10:04] <[TSK] > Suspend and Hibernate can be done in software easily enough, and I already know tricks to get the multimedia keys working right.  8)
[10:04] <unix_infidel> [TSK] : like i said, we spend more time using our computers than fiddling with them.
[10:04] <[TSK] > Small kernel patch should get the suspend and hibernate going.
[10:05] <Hobbsee> unix_infidel: i wouldnt bet on that
[10:05] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : cool
[10:05] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : you a developer at all?
[10:05] <unix_infidel> Hobbsee: comparatively.
[10:05] <[TSK] > If that's the only two problems I'll have to contend with then I should be able to have my roommate's laptop running on Linux by tomorrow evening.  8)
[10:06] <cvt|expert> what will happen if i end every process in system monitor that's sleeping?
[10:06] <[TSK] > Hobbsee: At the moment my development skills are entirely in web-related coding.  PHP, etc...  Although I can compile source code easily enough, I'm not yet proficient in reading or writing C/C++, etc.  Give me time tho and I will learn.  8)
[10:07] <[TSK] > cvt|expert: You'll prolly end up shutting down something important along the way.  8)
[10:08] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : ah okay :P  I was just thinking of the specs abotu getting laptops better recognised for the next version, and it sounds like you've got some skills there.
[10:08] <[TSK] > Sleeping tasks are just waiting for something to do.  They aren't totally inactive, they are just not 'busy at the moment'.  8)
[10:08] <cvt|expert> [TSK] , do you end any processes that are sleeping to save resources?
[10:08] <mcrandello> please don't wake them no don't shake them leave them where they lay, they're only sleeping
[10:09] <cvt|expert> ahha
[10:09] <[TSK] > Hobbsee: I've only got skills related to laptops working better because another friend of mine had an HP laptop that fought us every step of the way getting Mandriva on to it and we totally had to research for weeks to find all the perfect solutions to the troubles we had.  However, the solutions we found seem to work on a rather wide variety of laptops.  I've got bookmarks to all the goodies we found on my Mandriva install under my Fir
[10:10] <Xemanth> is it possible to install with desktop x86 image
[10:10] <Xemanth> i accidentally downloaded i t
[10:10] <Xemanth> ?
[10:10] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : nice!
[10:10] <gioacchino> hello
[10:10] <mcrandello> [TSK] : do these fixes include a working fglrx big-desktop  setup?
[10:10] <gioacchino> can you link the list of pacage of kubuntu?
[10:11] <[TSK] > cvt|expert: I generally don't have any real troubles with running out of resources.
[10:11] <scheuri> hi all
[10:11] <mcrandello> Xemanth: is it the live cd?
[10:11] <[TSK] > cvt|expert: I've got 768 megs of RAM and a 1.5 gig swap partition.  8)
[10:12] <cvt|expert> pIII 800mHz 128mB ram
[10:12] <Xemanth> mcrandello: yes unfortunately... i though desktop image meant like this intalls desktop version on kubuntu... but no... why it name can't be kubuntu-livecd-x86.iso like that
[10:12] <cvt|expert> 1mB vid card
[10:13] <Hobbsee> gioacchino: packages.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <[TSK] > mcrandello: I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'big-desktop', but we did manage to get his ATI hardware running under Mandriva, but I'm sure I'll have to re-research that one detail under Kubuntu.  The rest were pretty generic fixes for various laptop related issues.
[10:13] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : i doubt that goes into swap very much :P
[10:13] <mcrandello> Xemanth: If it's the latest (6.06) there should be an install icon right on the desktop right after starting up
[10:14] <gioacchino> thanks
[10:14] <mcrandello> [TSK] : big desktop is like dual head but without running 2 separate desktop environments
[10:14] <[TSK] > Hobbsee: My experience has been that unless I'm pushing my system very VERY hard, I almost never actually use the swap partition.  It's mostly there 'just in case'...  8)
[10:14] <Xemanth> mcrandello: oh really
[10:14] <sabaal> How safe it is to resize an NTFS partition with Kubuntu's text installer?
[10:14] <Hobbsee> [TSK] : hehe true
[10:14] <Xemanth> i didn't boot that long
[10:14] <Hobbsee> sabaal: i've not had a problem with it
[10:14] <Xemanth> :|
[10:15] <sabaal> Hobbsee: No lost data? Still booted fine?
[10:15] <mcrandello> Xemanth: then again I had the gnome desktop one and then installed kubuntu-desktop package to get KDE back up and running
[10:15] <[TSK] > mcrandello: Ah...  Okay.  I'm not sure about that one.  I'd bet if it's possible then I can find the answer given enough time to dig around, but at this point in time I know not.  8)
[10:16] <mcrandello> there seems to be an issue in ubuntu where half the screen becomes inaccessible after logging in
[10:16] <Hobbsee> sabaal: yeah, defrag it first though.
[10:16] <mcrandello> it's the damndest thing too, the whole desktop works perfectly in the GDM login screen
[10:16] <sabaal> Hobbsee: Wonderful. Thank you.
[10:16] <Maggot> Hello
[10:17] <mcrandello> at least it hasn't froze in the 2 or so hours I've been running it
[10:17] <sabaal> Anyone here have experience working Kubuntu on a tablet PC?
[10:17] <valombre> hello world ;)
[10:18] <sabaal> Well? World? You've just been greeted.
[10:18] <[TSK] > Greetings valombre
[10:18] <Maggot> hello valombre
[10:18] <sabaal> I don't think world is here.
[10:18] <Maggot> Just the best part of it :)
[10:22] <nadit> hey
[10:23] <sabaal> Well, it is nearly 1:30 here. The bed beckons.
[10:23] <sabaal> Goodnight, everyone.
[10:23] <[TSK] > Rest well, sabaal
[10:26] <[TSK] > Actually, it's nearly 2:30 here and I still need to go clear a bit more HD space to install Kubuntu before I go to sleep, so I guess I'ma have to leave now as well.  Y'all folks have a good evening (or morning, or afternoon, or whatever it is whereever you are...)  8)
[10:37] <spamfilter> hi guys, what is the best way to set up a relay mail server, which receives incoming mail on port 25, checks it for spam and viruses, and then sends it on to an exchange server? any advice would be tremendously appreciated.
[10:37] <word> why is my refresh rate at 70 hz...(fairly sure my monitor doesnt support that high!) ?
[10:38] <word> And I can't change it it's the only option
[10:40] <mcrandello> word: change it where, what window you in?
[10:41] <word> mcrandello: System settings -> display
[10:42] <mcrandello> I think that's a frontend for xrandr and xrandr seems to be pretty buggy to me
[10:42] <Kingbuzzo> hmmm, kubuntu doesn't seem to like gcc
[10:42] <Kingbuzzo> error: C compiler cannot create executables
[10:42] <mcrandello> word: the other option is to check out the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[10:43] <mcrandello> I'm actually having some problems with xrandr myself
[10:43] <word> mcrandello: Yah, no where do i see the refresh rate over 70
[10:44] <MistaED> can gdm use xrandr at all?
[10:44] <word> vert refresh = 43-60 and horiz sync = 28-51...although 70 may be correct i'm having some view problems..
[10:44] <mcrandello> mine says 85, and doesn't mention a thing about the second monitor :(
[10:45] <word> how do i change the refresh rate another way?
[10:46] <mcrandello> word: there should be some settings already in the xorg.conf file, you can *carefully* edit them there if they are already listed but wrong
[10:46] <word> In the xorg.conf file they're correct but apparently  not according to system settings > display
[10:46] <mcrandello> is there any way to tell xrandr that no I dont have 4 monitors and I only need 2048x768, not 4096 wide?
[10:47] <mcrandello> word: in that case I'd just hit cancel, and never revisit that particular control panel :)
[10:48] <mcrandello> what's going on with the display anyway?
[10:48] <word> panel is flickering
[10:48] <word> but the level of flickering depends on if a window is full width along the bottom...and how white the background of that window is
[10:49] <mcrandello> what video card are you using?
[10:49] <word> GeForce 6800
[10:53] <negocio> how i make a direct access on my desktop to ./xdosemu ?
[10:54] <mcrandello> word: at the moment I'm drawing blanks, one thing you can do is try to comment out the "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" lines, and let X try to detect them at startup
[10:55] <negocio> hi mens
[10:55] <word> Ok, i'll try that out on next reboot thanks mcrandello
[10:55] <mcrandello> word: take note, if X doesn't start back up, log into the console, then type "sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change whatever you did back
[10:55] <negocio> i need to make a link direct on my desktop to ./xdosemu
[10:55] <negocio> how i make?
[10:56] <negocio> please help me
[10:56] <word> mcrandello: nano sounds cooler ;p
[10:56] <mcrandello> better yet "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup" first :)
[10:56] <word> hehe
[10:56] <mcrandello> (they left the pico link in for us old fatbeards)
[10:57] <negocio> i run from the terminal ./xdosemu
[10:57] <mcrandello> negocio: what dir is it in
[10:57] <negocio> how i make a link in my desktop?
[10:57] <negocio> home/negocio/mydos/dosemu
[10:58] <mcrandello> negocio: alright right click and then "Create New"
[10:58] <mcrandello> then "L:ink to application
[10:58] <negocio> yes
[10:58] <mcrandello> on the general tab type dosemu
[10:58] <negocio> ok
[10:59] <mcrandello> on the application tab where it says "command"  put in /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu
[10:59] <negocio> then
[10:59] <mcrandello> fill in a description, comment etc, the work path should be /home/negocio/mydos I suppose
[10:59] <mcrandello> go back to general give it a snazzy icon then hit ok and try it out
[11:00] <negocio> ok
[11:00] <negocio> but is xdosemu
[11:00] <negocio> not dosmeu
[11:00] <negocio> its the same?
[11:00] <mcrandello> oh wait
[11:01] <mcrandello> what I dold you for command is the workpath, /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu/xdosemu is the command
[11:01] <negocio> yes
[11:02] <mcrandello> if it closes right out for the command try "xterm -e /home/negocio/mydos/dosemu/xdosemu"
[11:03] <negocio> ok
[11:03] <negocio> thats work
[11:03] <negocio> thanks
[11:03] <mcrandello> np :)
[11:07] <noaXess> hi all
[11:08] <Hobbsee> hi noaXess
[11:08] <noaXess> what is the default iocharset if i mount an smbfs as: mount -t cifs ..? utf8?
[11:08] <noaXess> hi Hobbsee, nice to "see" you :)
[11:08] <Hobbsee> try man mount or similar
[11:09] <noaXess> Hobbsee, in the man mount.cifs is something like nls_default..
[11:10] <noaXess> If  iocharset is not specified then the nls_default specified during the local client kernel build will be used.
[11:10] <Hobbsee> right
[11:10] <noaXess> how to find out, what the default iocharset is running in my kernel?
[11:11] <noaXess> the problem is as follows.. i rsync some data to my external, mounted smb server... if in the file- or foldername is an  rsync shows an ? instead eg. the  ...
[11:13] <noaXess> of if there is an _ (underline, underscore) in the filename, like XYZ_TEST_.gif -> XYZ_TEST?.gif
[11:14] <noaXess> but only infront of the dotgif
[11:14] <aeon17x> ktorrent isn't so bad
[11:16] <noaXess> where can i see the default iocharset in my running kernel?
[11:21] <Kabal> Does anyone know if Kubuntu 6.06 can support Intel Core Duo 2?
[11:22] <scheuri> Kabal: do you mean VT? both cores?...actually,it should work without any troubles
[11:24] <noaXess> scheuri, Kabal needs to install smp kernel, for supporting core duo, right?
[11:24] <scheuri> noaXess: well, yes...but I thought that 2.6.x is already smp enabled in ubuntu...or am I wrong?
[11:25] <scheuri> noaXess: sorry...you are right...my bad
[11:25] <noaXess> scheuri: hm.. i don't know exatly.. on fresh install on a smp enabled cpu, i think kubuntu/ubuntu will use smp kernel..
[11:26] <noaXess> scheuri: there is an smp and a nonsmp kernel..
[11:26] <scheuri> noaXess: No, it would very likely use the i386-kernel...smp needs to be installed later on
[11:26] <noaXess> or not?.. Hobbsee whats about you?
[11:26] <noaXess> scheuri, yeah
[11:27] <Hobbsee> hehe
[11:27] <scheuri> Kabal: you need to install a smp-kernel after installing...so both cores will be used
[11:27] <scheuri> Hobbsee: ah, okay...;)
[11:28] <Hobbsee> hmmm?  noaXess ?
[11:29] <noaXess> why not :] 
[11:29] <Hobbsee> why am i a crack?
[11:29] <Kabal> Oke so if I install 6.06 then later I can update to a SMP kernel
[11:29] <Kabal> ?
[11:29] <scheuri> Kabal: correct
[11:29] <noaXess> sometime you have answers.. good answers..
[11:29] <noaXess> Kabal: right...
[11:30] <Kabal> Or will the install detect my proc and install the SMP kernel right away?
[11:30] <noaXess> Kabal, just do it over apt-get or your prefered package manager..
[11:30] <noaXess> Kabal, if you make a fresh install, i think kubuntu will see your core duo and choose the right kernel..
[11:30] <scheuri> Kabal: the command will be "sudo aptitude install linux-image-2.6.15-25-686-smp" or alike
[11:30] <noaXess> he word, are you m$ word :) LOL
[11:31] <Kabal> noaXess: that would be great :)
[11:31] <Kabal> scheuri: thanx for the info will help alot :)
[11:31] <scheuri> Kabal: noaXess ...I really doubt that ubuntu recons the right kernel right away at install...
[11:32] <Kabal> then I will apt-get the kernel :)
[11:32] <noaXess> Kabal, i remember... trust the developer :) kubuntu will do it for you, if not.. here is the place for questions
[11:32] <Kabal> hahaha
[11:32] <Kabal> :))
[11:32] <scheuri> Kabal: use aptitude...:)
[11:32] <noaXess> :P
[11:32] <Kabal> LOL
[11:32] <Kabal> Thanx guys :)
[11:33] <noaXess> he "word" is gone.. he is searching for "words..." mg
[11:34] <orient2000> How do I install j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin from a console?
[11:34] <Kabal> sudo ./ j2sdk-1_4_2_12-linux-i586.bin ?
[11:35] <scheuri> orient2000: are you using ubuntu 6.06? and is there a need for that specific version? as far as I know, sun java can be installed with aptitude, synaptic, adept and the alike
[11:35] <noaXess> Kabal, np
[11:35] <Kabal> ke :)
[11:35] <noaXess> !tell orient2000 about java
[11:36] <noaXess> !java
[11:36] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[11:36] <noaXess> !mp3
[11:36] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:36] <noaXess> orient2000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:37] <cvt|expert> orient2000, i just typed jre1 in synaptic
[11:37] <cvt|expert> and installed java from the list
[11:42] <Kabal> btw.. why is kicker so unstable when multiple desktops are used icw slide show wallpaper enabled?
[11:42] <Kabal> This is what I frequently get: http://www.euronet.nl/users/kabal/00/3.5.3.png
[11:43] <Kabal> Can I do somthing here to improve stability?
[11:44] <jpatrick> No
[11:44] <jpatrick> unless you sumbit a bug report with a backtrace
[11:46] <Kabal> yes.. I would like to do that.. but when I try the backtrace it says it's not avail..?
[11:46] <jpatrick> install gdb
[11:47] <Kabal> oke thanx I will do that
[11:49] <Kabal> well it'
[11:49] <Kabal> s installed.. :)
[11:49] <Kabal> next time I hope I can backtrace the error(s)
[12:09] <psb154> I have put off using p2p all my computer career because I am worried about opening up a port to internet strangers. Anyone have bad experiences bittorrent or the like?
[12:22] <maurice> hi, how can i manage it under kubuntu that my usb audio device is taken as default output as soon as it is plugged in?
[12:22] <maurice> it's shown in KMix, but i am not able to set it to default anywhere
[12:27] <orient2000> I want to install java .bin package all info about installations is about .deb packages or the one from adept list. adept version is chocking update manager after updating java.
[12:30] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[12:34] <Delphinus> hey crazy_penguin
[12:40] <mth`MAW> hi
[12:49] <cvt|expert> she's addicted to the cock like crack
[12:50] <jpatrick> cvt|expert: what....
[12:51] <rob> sigh
[12:53] <jpatrick> rob: i'll gonna to pretend I didn't read and get back to a my guitar
[12:53] <rob> heh
[12:57] <cristiano> hello everybody. did anybody got installed vidalia and tor on dapper drake?
[12:57] <cristiano> !tor
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about tor
[12:57] <cristiano> !vidalia
[12:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about vidalia
[12:58] <cristiano> i installed both but tor seems having probs coz when it install it gives "debian-tor" as owner of the folder created so that i'm not able to run it even if i'm root
[12:59] <cristiano> so no clues for me?
[01:05] <bombero> hallo, kann mir jemand sagen wie ich Java auf Kubuntu instaliere, im Adapt ist Java grau ausgeblendet
[01:05] <gioacchino> bombero: are you italian ?
[01:05] <bombero> no spanish
[01:06] <gioacchino> jo soi italiano
[01:06] <bombero> i try to instal Java with adept
[01:06] <insanekane> bombero: install it with apt-get
[01:06] <bombero> apt-get install java ?
[01:06] <insanekane> sudo apt-get install java
[01:07] <cristiano> ciao gioacchino
[01:07] <cristiano> se sei italiano non parlare spagnolo :D
[01:07] <insanekane> it seems there is some kind of keyboard input to be given
[01:07] <gioacchino> ciao cristiano italiano anche tu ?
[01:08] <bombero> cristiano: pero yo entiendo un poco italiano
[01:08] <gioacchino> bombero: jo entiendo un pco espagnolo
[01:09] <cristiano> bombero lol i understand spanish but i'm not able to speak it :)
[01:09] <cristiano> gioacchino: si sono di Napoli tu?
[01:10] <bombero> gioacchino: (:-)
[01:17] <gioacchino> io sono siciliano
[01:18] <gioacchino> mistretta messina
[01:18] <gioacchino> cristiano:
[01:18] <gioacchino> bombero:  gioacchino = joachin
[01:18] <cristiano> dai che  bella la sicilia!
[01:18] <gioacchino> sisi
[01:18] <cvt|expert> jpatrick, wrong window. sry
[01:18] <gioacchino> cmq vado a pranzo ciao
[01:19] <jpatrick> cvt|expert: :/ right.......
[01:19] <cvt|expert> srsly
[01:21] <cristiano> gioacchino: ciao buon appetito
[01:25] <heinrich> hi all
[01:26] <heinrich> is there a quicktime plugin for dapper drake?
[01:27] <K|NgGh0sT> Is there not a live isntall cd?
[01:27] <heinrich> ?
[01:27] <cristiano> K|NgGh0sT: what are u talking about?
[01:29] <K|NgGh0sT> Is there not a netinstall I mean
[01:29] <K|NgGh0sT> aha sorry tired just woke up
[01:29] <heinrich> apt -get install qicktime?
[01:31] <K|NgGh0sT> yes, no mayber?
[01:31] <cristiano> heinrich: look at RestrictedFormats in the ubuntu wiki
[01:32] <cristiano> K|NgGh0sT: dunno sorry :(
[01:32] <cristiano> i think u've got to download the cd
[01:45] <heinrich> ok
[01:45] <BKaj> Good Morning
[01:45] <om_> everytime i restart X my screen resolution is on 640x480 and i have to change it manually
[01:46] <om_> how do i get it to keep it on 1600x1200??
[01:46] <sir_binary> morning
[01:47] <om_> plus even though i have the box "restore previous session" it's not restoring it...
[01:48] <BKaj> om,  system settings/hardware display/admin mode/..find your monitor in the list and set it up for the right drivers..then set up your resolution
[01:48] <om_> thanks BKaj ill try it now
[01:49] <BKaj> otherwise it will keep reverting to the default low res
[01:50] <om_> BKaj: im not sure what to do.. it doesnt let me choose a monitor.. it just says "plug and play"
[01:51] <BKaj> hang on , om_
[01:52] <BKaj> are you in admin mode ?
[01:52] <om_> yes
[01:52] <om_> it doesnt give me an option to change the hardware though..
[01:52] <BKaj> click on the hardware tab
[01:53] <empi> what about editing the x config file? shouldn't be that hard
[01:53] <BKaj> configure tab
[01:54] <om_> ok got it BKaj, thanks! im going to try to restart X
[01:54] <BKaj> cool, om
[01:54] <empi> good luck!
[01:55] <BKaj> it should work
[01:57] <heinrich> what do you say about the soccer plays?
[01:59] <empi> heinrich, you mean soccer _games_ , and I'm unfortunately forced to miss'em :(
[02:00] <heinrich> yes
[02:00] <heinrich> i wondered that spain lost
[02:00] <heinrich> should i use multivere repository?
[02:00] <empi> yeah. I live in Hannover, where the game was... should've seen all those disappointed Spanish guys
[02:01] <om_> still didn't work =( i had to manually change the res again
[02:01] <heinrich> heck they were young
[02:01] <om_> even though the monitor and graphic cards are set correctly in the hardware tab
[02:01] <heinrich> they could have played much better i am sure
[02:01] <empi> om_, that is strange
[02:01] <empi> try editing the x conf file?
[02:02] <om_> empi: where do i find it?
[02:02] <empi> I'm still on breezy, so for me it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:02] <empi> dunno if it changed with dapper
[02:03] <empi> but what ever you do with the file, make a backup copy before
[02:03] <om_> ok thanks
[02:04] <BKaj> om, did you change the resolution slider ?
[02:04] <om_> BKaj: yeah
[02:05] <BKaj> what did you set it
[02:05] <om_> 1600x1200
[02:05] <om_> and it works... but when i restart x it goes back
[02:06] <om_> actually it seems like every option that i change goes back.. it's very strange... like the page -> window thumbnails.. i set it to on, but when i restart X it turns off
[02:06] <BKaj> bummer, dunno how to help in that case, sorry:(
[02:07] <BKaj> maybe one of the EXPERTS here will heed the call ! ...Helloooo !  :)
[02:07] <om_> thanks anyways =) ill keep messing around
[02:07] <om_> and googling
[02:08] <BKaj> funny it worked for me but I'didn't try such a hi rez
[02:08] <empi> since we're calling the experts right now, I'll shut up :)
[02:09] <BKaj> got an old crt thatw orks ok at 1024 x 768
[02:09] <BKaj> empi, maybe you're right about x-config
[02:10] <BKaj> I'm  still anoob in most ways with dapper
[02:10] <empi> maybe, maybe not
[02:10] <om_> it was actually working before... the problems just started happening recently
[02:10] <empi> yeah, as I said, I'm stoll on Breezy
[02:10] <empi> still
[02:12] <BKaj> yeah I was trying to set up chroot to run 32 bit stuff on this AMD64 ...it's like beating yer head against a wall sometimes  :)
[02:13] <BKaj> i't's understandable why ppl give up on linux and return to windows , even tho we've been conditioned to despise it
[02:13] <Jack12> hi, when i use dappers simple backup config is it better to hav it on a separate partition? how much would that be in size?
[02:13] <BKaj> windoes that is
[02:13] <om_> im getting some updated drivers from ATI.. hopefully will help...
[02:14] <om_> yeah man... Adept crashes all the time... and Amarok keeps crashing X... i avoid those programs as much as i can
[02:14] <BKaj> which ATI , om_
[02:14] <BKaj> ?
[02:14] <om_> Radeon 9500
[02:14] <_rince_> everyone uses the operating systems he deserves ...
[02:14] <BKaj> nice
[02:14] <BKaj> hehe _rince_
[02:15] <BKaj> lucky it isn't nVidia...nothing but probs on the forums with those cards
[02:16] <KuLover> Has anyone tried the new ATI drivers release?
[02:16] <om_> KuLover: im installing them now...
[02:17] <KuLover> om_ Please, let me know how they work out and see this, http://www.flexbeta.net/main/comments.php?catid=8&shownews=20577
[02:17] <KuLover> om_ Looks promising
[02:17] <BKaj> <----elcheapo ati xpress200 onboard so the std driver on dapper works
[02:17] <om_> KuLover: will do
[02:17] <KuLover> om_ Thanks much! :)
[02:18] <BKaj> oops, I think I'll leave those alone...it ain't broke so far :)
[02:22] <om_> i am stuck here: aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:22] <Hobbsee> om_: check packages.ubuntu.com for which package has that file, and install it
[02:23] <om_> thanks Hobbsee
[02:23] <Hobbsee> om_: you confident on how to do that?
[02:24] <om_> yeah i figured it out =)
[02:24] <om_> ok cool, got past that step =) now im supposed to restart x... brb
[02:27] <BKaj> om, fglrx is the std ati driver in dapper
[02:28] <BKaj> oops
[02:31] <Jack12> where in dapper can i check if my bluetooth is supported?i mean where are the bluetooth things?
[02:32] <om_> wow i am super mad at kubuntu right now
[02:32] <jpatrick> om_: why?
[02:32] <om_> because everytime i restart X my screen resolution goes down to 640x480
[02:32] <om_> and i have to manually change it every single time
[02:33] <Jack12> om_ on dapper or on breezy?
[02:33] <om_> dapper
[02:34] <Jack12> om_ if u specify just one resolution in the reconfigue xserver-xorg, how is that thn?
[02:34] <om_> and then there's this bug that after i changed my resolution, when i right click the menu appears where it would be if my res was still 640x480
[02:34] <om_> Jack12: how do i do that?
[02:35] <imbrandon> om_ from a command prompt type " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " once thats done restart x and it should keep it
[02:35] <Jack12> om_ do the sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg then at the resolutions tick just the the box u want (i think with space)
[02:35] <om_> thanks!!! i really hope this works
[02:38] <om_> great reconfigure-xserver-xorg crashed
[02:38] <Emess> so it manually
[02:38] <om_> how?
[02:38] <Jack12> om_what did it say???
[02:39] <om_> konsole quit and i got "sorry konsole caused an error and needed to close" or something like that.. then a tab with 'backtrace' that gave me an error when i clicked on it
[02:39] <Jack12> where in the kmenu is bluetooth stored?
[02:39] <Emess> go to the system settings and it should be in connectivity
[02:39] <Jack12> sudo reconfigure xserver-xorg try that in failsafe maybe
[02:40] <Jack12> in system sessions om_
[02:40] <Jack12> thx Emess
[02:40] <Emess> om_: you want to go to the X settings in a terminal or edit teh config manually, but i cant remmebr where it is so you'll need to google
[02:40] <om_> ok i ran it again and this time it worked... i set only one resoultion.. restarting
[02:41] <CPU_Wizard> hello!
[02:41] <CPU_Wizard> how can i install the C/C++ dev environment?
[02:41] <burepe> what is the mount location for a samba network. I want to access a file throught a program's dialog but I don't know where to look.
[02:41] <Emess> find it in Adept
[02:41] <Jack12> Emess thank u how can i check now if my kubuntu understand my bluetooth hardware? i mean if it works?
[02:42] <Emess> got a bluetooth device to test it with?
[02:42] <Jack12> Emess yes a mobile
[02:42] <Jack12> Emess ok that way i do thx
[02:42] <Emess> so in your bluetooth menu, search for devices and see if it finds it, amke sure your phone has bluetooth set to discover
[02:43] <CPU_Wizard> and what's the name of the package?
[02:43] <CPU_Wizard> kdevelop?
[02:43] <Emess> no idea, search for C++ dev?
[02:44] <CPU_Wizard> found it, it's kdevelop
[02:45] <CPU_Wizard> thank you for your help :-)
[02:46] <Emess> np
[02:47] <om_> ok that's it.. i must format
[02:47] <om_> maybe ill try gnome next
[02:48] <Emess> ewww no
[02:48] <om_> kde is nothing but bugs!
[02:48] <empi> noooooo
[02:48] <Jack12> Emess its stupid but there is no search for..thing, is it add a new job ?
[02:48] <Emess> btw everyone who had wireless problems, there IS a kde network manager, in adpet its called knetworkmanager
[02:49] <Jack12> om_ did it work?
[02:49] <Emess> im not actually sure, it should have something like conenct or browse
[02:49] <om_> NO!!!! i chose only one resoultion for the monitor i have, so now it changed my monitor to "custome" wtf?!?!?
[02:50] <om_> so now i'm on 640x480 again
[02:50] <om_> plus all my settings dont seem to be saved
[02:50] <Emess> thats because X is stupid
[02:50] <om_> like the page options, it keeps disabling 'windows thumbnails' every time X restarts
[02:51] <om_> and i dont thinks its saving any sessions, cause it keeps starting the programs i closed last time... even though the 'save  sessions' is checked
[02:51] <DeadS0ul> I hope brazil totally smash france this year
[02:51] <om_> err 'restore previous session' i mean
[02:52] <om_> brazil rocks!!
[02:52] <om_> any last ideas before i give up and uninstall??
[02:52] <DeadS0ul> yeah no shit
[02:52] <Emess> om_: get Slakcware
[02:52] <Emess> or DesktopBSD :P
[02:53] <DeadS0ul> kubuntu is better than slackware anyday
[02:53] <v3ctor> depends on how yo define better
[02:53] <DeadS0ul> that's a tough one
[02:53] <DeadS0ul> ..anyway, I hope brazil wipe the floor with france >|
[02:54] <om_> LOL now Adept disappeared and won't start.... wow kde has some serious issues to work out
[02:54] <v3ctor> the one thing i lost switchig fro slackware to kubuntu is performance
[02:54] <v3ctor> *ubuntu is dog slow comapred to slackware
[02:55] <v3ctor> but i like kubuntu enough to eat that loss
[02:55] <Emess> i switched from Slack to Vector
[02:55] <Emess> and then to Kubuntu
[02:55] <Emess> but i think il go back to Slack
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> how come if i boot up with lan cable unplugged, plugging it in still wont make kubuntu pick up my internet
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> i had to reboot to get it on
[02:55] <Tommy2k4> is there a command i could type to get it on
[02:55] <Emess> Tommy: msot distros are liekt hat because tehy dont pick up the eth connection
[02:56] <Emess> nothing will fix it, its teh way linux works
[02:56] <om__> holy hell everything on my monitor is double now
[02:56] <om__> i can barely read
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> no command to enable the eth?
[02:56] <om__> slackware... sounds good =)
[02:56] <empi> sure as hell
[02:56] <empi> if-up eth0
[03:00] <elie> good morning guys
[03:00] <elie> any1 here?
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> hi
[03:01] <empi> <- here
[03:01] <DeadS0ul> =D
[03:01] <zorglu1> Tommy2k4: so any freeze since last time ?
[03:01] <Raito> Where is the character map in KDE?
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> not since i switched to 16bit / 1024x768 :D
[03:02] <elie> when i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> it makes my eyes bleed but oh well
[03:02] <zorglu1> Tommy2k4: ok :)
[03:02] <Jack12> guys i got a problem: i need to delete /tmp because its full and unwritable to so that i cannot login...deleting via failsafe and recovery and consolelogin didnt work, neither live-cd; there is a fedora core 4 on the computer i could use too...but i forgot login and password...could i change that from console so i could use fedora to destroy that /tmp folder?
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> do you think if i tried 1280x1024 on 16bit it would crash
[03:02] <zorglu1> Jack12: well delete the content of /tmp not the directory itself
[03:02] <elie> when i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)
[03:03] <zorglu1> Jack12: boot in failsafe, become root, and do "rm -rf /tmp" . this will clean up the /tmp
[03:03] <DeadS0ul> Jack12: and to reset the root password, boot fromt he live cd and remove the 'x' in teh for root in the /etc/passwd file, that'll reset teh password to NULL
[03:04] <elie> Any1? when i close amarok i get a kde crash handler: the app knotify crashed and caused the signal 11(sigsegv)
[03:04] <zorglu1> Tommy2k4: the resolution is not supposed to make it crash
[03:04] <Jack12> zorglu1 doesntmatter, could mkdir the folder again...rm -rf /tmp: no use tried several times, but i will try your secon attempt, thanks
[03:04] <empi> elie, no idea, sorry--- which version are you using?
[03:04] <elie> the latest dapper 6.06
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> so the problem was 24bit
[03:05] <empi> hm, sorry, no idea
[03:05] <zorglu1> Jack12: man this would work :)
[03:05] <zorglu1> Jack12: so here 2 possibilities: either you did it wrong or you are not reporting the whole info
[03:05] <zorglu1> Jack12: try to collect the maximum informations you can
[03:05] <elie> k,any1 know what is the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[03:06] <zorglu1> Jack12: what you did and the produced display
[03:06] <DeadS0ul> elie: yeah, remove the windows partition and any windows boxen from your netowrk
[03:06] <Jack12> zorglu1 i think it happened when i copied large data ..and the computer shut itself down at some point for no reason
[03:07] <v3ctor> elie: clamav
[03:07] <zorglu1> Jack12: maybe the disk is full i dunno, you have to collect more data and report them here accuratly
[03:07] <zorglu1> Jack12: rm -rf /tmp/* do work :) believe me :)
[03:07] <elie> thnx
[03:07] <Jack12> zorglu1 df shows me some 100% usage and when i tried to login the first times it said /tmp is not writable, so x cannot start
[03:08] <zorglu1> Jack12: to have a full disk should not prevent you from loggin in as 'failsafe'
[03:08] <zorglu1> or there is a big bug in failsafe :)
[03:08] <Jack12> zorglu1 shall i do that from recovery mode?
[03:09] <Jack12> zorglu1 no failsafe doesnt work
[03:09] <zorglu1> Jack12: yep, failsafe/recoverymode/single mode i dunno what is the name :)
[03:09] <Raito> Where is the character map in KDE?
[03:09] <zorglu1> you boot as single user :)
[03:09] <zorglu1> Raito: i dunno. #kde may have more info on this
[03:10] <Jack12> zorglu1 recovery u choose at boot and it works, failsafe is kind of session without x , choosing at login and here it doesnt start, except via keys
[03:10] <zorglu1> Jack12: ah ok , so it is 'recovery'
[03:11] <zorglu1> Jack12: it will not produce a graphical stuff
[03:11] <elie> v3tor: i cant d/n it as it say site down
[03:11] <Jack12> zorglu1 ya mom i tell u
[03:11] <abattoir> Raito: kcharselect is the application, you need to install it if you already dont have it
[03:12] <Raito> abattoir, thanks
[03:12] <zorglu1> Jack12: ?
[03:12] <elie> where can i get the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[03:12] <Jack12> zorglu1 shall i do as root via sudo -i?
[03:12] <zorglu1> Jack12: you should be root directly
 You are still here?
[03:12] <zorglu1> Jack12: without any password. to check with a ubuntu user :)
[03:12] <furgu> Jack12, Reboot into single-user mode
[03:12] <Jack12> hi furgu...no again....
[03:13] <elie> where can i get the best antivirus 4 linux ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[03:13] <BKaj> ok, what's wrong here ?  missing destination file operand after `./streamtuner_0.99.99-5ubuntu6_amd64.deb
[03:13] <zorglu1> furgu: when ubuntu boot as single-user does it ask for a password ?
[03:13] <furgu> avclam elie
[03:13] <furgu> no zorglu1
[03:13] <Raito> abattoir: for some reason half the characters are squares, and where would I find hiragana and katakana among them?
[03:14] <Jack12> zorglu1 rebooting mom
[03:14] <exceswater> hi all
[03:14] <exceswater> :D
[03:14] <furgu> elie, clamav rather
[03:14] <Jack12> furgu where do i get the single user mode?
[03:14] <furgu> Jack12, are you using Grub or Lilo?
[03:14] <abattoir> Raito: table 48
[03:14] <Jack12> furgu grub
[03:14] <BKaj> hey exceswater
[03:15] <Jack12> grub 0.95
[03:15] <furgu> Jack12, when you reboot you should see something like "Press ESC for a menu"
[03:15] <furgu> Jack12, Press ESC then
[03:16] <elie> it say:
[03:16] <elie> We're Sorry.
[03:16] <elie> The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance.
[03:16] <Raito> thanks abattoir, the character map is nice, but I should have asked what japanese IME's are there for Linux
[03:16] <furgu> elie, install from Synaptic or KPackage or something
[03:16] <elie> k thnx
[03:16] <furgu> mmmmmmmm coffee
[03:17] <omeow> Raito: I think you're after scim.
[03:17] <exceswater> hey BKaj
[03:17] <exceswater> :D
[03:18] <elie> also what is the best antispyware
[03:18] <Jack12> furgu is that before grub appears? i could just f2 or f12 choose...i rebooted no to the recovery mode
[03:18] <furgu> BKaj did you ever get GoogleEarth working?
[03:18] <furgu> Jack12 it is after you bios comes up, right before you boot into the Kernel
[03:18] <furgu> Jack12 You have to watch closely
[03:18] <abattoir> Raito: like omeow said, scim, checkout skim for a KDE frontend http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14597
[03:19] <elie> furgu now it say:
[03:19] <elie> E: clamav-base: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[03:19] <elie> E: clamav-daemon: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:19] <elie> E: clamav-milter: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[03:19] <abattoir> Raito: i think it'd be in the official repos though
[03:19] <furgu> what version of ubuntu are you running elie?
[03:19] <Jack12> hi elie
[03:19] <Raito> abbatoir, thanks so much. I'm going to Japan soon and I don't want to have to use windows for all my office needs
[03:19] <VonGeist> is there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?
[03:19] <elie> hi
[03:19] <elie> dapper 6.06
[03:20] <furgu> elie, did you upgrade or install fresh?
[03:20] <elie> fresh
[03:20] <abattoir> Raito: np :)
[03:21] <_Myst_> hi?
[03:21] <GullyFoyle> can i create a ~/.Xdefaults file just for aterm specific settings?
[03:21] <Jack12> zorglu1 i did what u said but the df output is still the same
[03:21] <furgu> Which program are you using Elie?
[03:21] <_Myst_> someone could tell me how to mount an ext3 partition with rw access?
[03:21] <om_> im trying to decide between installing debian or slackware.. im not sure what to choose
[03:21] <zorglu1> Jack12: so the issue is not the /tmp usage
[03:21] <_Myst_> i think i am doing it wrong
[03:21] <zorglu1> Jack12: you have the box running as single user now ?
[03:21] <furgu> zorglu1 : it is
[03:21] <elie> synaptic package manager
[03:21] <elie> .0
[03:21] <VonGeist> Om: I think most people here would suggest Kubuntu.....
[03:22] <furgu> zorglu1: tell him to do a 'du -ks /tmp'
[03:22] <furgu> zorlgu1: I was helping him with this yesterday, its hopeless
[03:22] <zorglu1> furgu: well 'rm -rf /tmp/*' will wipe it out :)
[03:22] <om_> VonGeist: yeah well kubuntu seems ultra buggy
[03:22] <furgu> zorglu1: Yeah?  Double check
[03:22] <Jack12> zorglu1 how? i cannot switch to it via escape at the booting..sry
[03:22] <zorglu1> furgu: i think it is an inaccurate report of the info
[03:22] <GullyFoyle> kubuntu or mepis: all the joy and goodness of debian but fresher
[03:22] <zorglu1> Jack12: ok
[03:22] <Raito> abbatoir: Scim and skim are apparantly already the latest version O_O How do I set it up?
[03:23] <furgu> zorglu1, so its a bug in du?  .... sure
[03:23] <zorglu1> Jack12: are you on this box now ?
[03:23] <zorglu1> furgu: or in human inaccuratly doing or reporting :)
[03:23] <_Myst_> hi!!
[03:23] <furgu> zorglu1, I think UE is part of it...
[03:23] <zorglu1> furgu: UE=?
[03:23] <furgu> User Error
[03:23] <zorglu1> ah ok :)
[03:24] <Jack12> i am in the console session failsafe without x zorglu1
[03:24] <BKaj> how does one install a .deb pkg in dapper ?
[03:24] <zorglu1> Jack12: and you use irc thru it ?
[03:24] <furgu> Jack12, type rm -rf /tmp/*
[03:24] <furgu> zorglu1: his is on a notebook too
[03:24] <furgu> eh... time for coffee
[03:24] <Emess> furgu...
[03:24] <VonGeist> bkaj:sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[03:24] <furgu> elie sorry be back in a minute
[03:24] <Emess> wait i didnt see teh 'tmp'
[03:25] <furgu> Emess.... wha?
[03:25] <Emess> i thought you said to 'rm -rf /'
[03:25] <Emess> lol
[03:25] <BKaj> ok thx VonGeist, I'll try it
[03:25] <elie> k
[03:25] <chx> i have a character on my clipboard and I would like to know it's hex code
[03:25] <chx> how could I do that?
[03:25] <_Myst_> someone could tell me how to mount an ext3 partition with rw access? i think i am doing it  in the wrong way..
[03:25] <abattoir> Raito: there should be a Kcontrol module, i.e. an entry in KDE Control centre for skim
[03:25] <VonGeist> is there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?
[03:25] <chx> it's some bastard unicode which i can't display
[03:25] <Jack12> zorglu1 no from somwhereelse ; furgu i did but there is no reaction....and no error message
[03:26] <zorglu1> Jack12: so you can type 'live' what i ask you to ?
[03:26] <CPU_Wizard> hi again
[03:26] <Raito> abattoir: I'll try and mess around with the settings and come back if I have trouble
[03:26] <zorglu1> Jack12: without rebooting etc.. ?
[03:26] <abattoir> Raito: i guess 'skim' is an executable... i'm sorry i havent personally used it myself
[03:26] <CPU_Wizard> i downloaded phpBB and i want to run it... How can i do that?
[03:26] <abattoir> Raito: i'll help you as much as i can :)
[03:27] <CPU_Wizard> where should i copy the php files?
[03:27] <Jack12> zorglu1 i can yes...??
[03:27] <Emess> copy to your htdocs file ont eh webserver
[03:27] <Raito> abattoir: I have no idea how to do it >_>
[03:28] <empi> CPU_Wizard, use apt-get to install it and have it done for you?
[03:28] <Emess> if its your username ont he box then put it into the /home/username/www/htdocs/ folder
[03:28] <CPU_Wizard> i'll try it right now!
[03:28] <abattoir> Raito: give me a second, let me install it
[03:28] <furgu> Jack12, there would be no reaction
[03:29] <furgu> Jack12, do a "du -ks /tmp" now
[03:29] <_Myst_> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[03:29] <_Myst_> :P
[03:29] <furgu> wasssssssssssup
[03:29] <zorglu1> Jack12: ok do 'ls -ld /tmp' and dump the first drwxrwxrwt  42 root root 20480 Jun 28 15:02 /tmp
[03:29] <Raito> abattoir, I already had it installed, might have been for a dependancy of some other thing
[03:29] <Kr4t05> Does Linux have a util that will completely wipe a selected media?
[03:29] <zorglu1> Jack12: all the drdw--wrd at the begining
[03:29] <Emess> fdisk?
[03:29] <zorglu1> Jack12: copy it here ACCURATLY
[03:29] <Emess> or do you mean jsut delete everything on it?
[03:29] <Raito> Kr4t05 maybe QTparted?
[03:29] <Jack12> furgu it says 16    /tmp
[03:29] <Kr4t05> Emess, a full "zero-wipe"
[03:29] <furgu> Jack12, you are in recovery mode now?
[03:30] <CPU_Wizard> i created that folder. how can i run the scripts?
[03:30] <furgu> Jack12, do "cd /tmp; df -k ."
[03:30] <Emess> Kr4t05: fdisk or to jsut delete files/folders 'rm -r /mnt/media'
[03:30] <elie> after installing clamav where it should go?in the menu?
[03:30] <furgu> elie, what do you need anti-virus for?
[03:30] <Kr4t05> Emess, I
[03:30] <furgu> elie, did you get it installed?
[03:30] <elie> i dont want virus...
[03:30] <insanekane> hi ... anyone here who hasnt upgraded to 6.06 and who can spend a few minutes verifying something for me ? (maybe dapper flight-x or even breezy)
[03:31] <furgu> elie, you are better off installing chkrootkit
[03:31] <v3ctor> if you don't wnt virus...don't run windows
[03:31] <furgu> elie, anti-virus is mostly for scanning mail if you are running a mail server type of thing
[03:31] <elie> u mean therz no virus with linux?
[03:31] <furgu> elie, linux... not many viruses, better to run chkrootkit
[03:31] <rabby> on kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp catalog - good, but if this catalog have everyone catalog - to me request autorythation query. please say, what i can configure on konqueror
[03:31] <Jack12> zorglu1  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 Jun 28 15:20 /tmp
[03:31] <furgu> 'doh
[03:31] <Kr4t05> Emess, I have an RCA Lyra mp3 player. When I look at it in Konqueror, it's empty. But, when I open the Properties window on it, it reports as only having 170MB out of 256MB
[03:31] <gerard> Wow, just received my chipit cd's
[03:31] <gerard> ^_^
[03:31] <elie> and a firewall i had 1 with fedoracore is there 1 with ubuntu?
[03:32] <v3ctor> elie: there are some...but you have to install them for them to work ;)
[03:32] <gerard> Anyone here know how to install an extra language?
[03:32] <furgu> Jack12: do "chmod a+w /tmp"
[03:32] <Jack12> furgu ia m in recovery mode
[03:32] <Mez> elie, virii on linux exist, but well... they're less... prevelant than in Windows
[03:32] <Jack12> furgu u need the df k output first?
[03:32] <CPU_Wizard> i installed phpbb, how can i run it?
[03:32] <rabby> on kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp catalog - good, but if this catalog have everyone catalog - to me request autorythation query. please say, what i can configure on konqueror
[03:32] <Mez> elie - I'd suggest using a graphical frontend for clamav - I suggest klamav (as it's the only one I know)
[03:33] <Jack12> furgu i did the chmod thing..now?
[03:33] <Mez> CPU_Wizard, is there a package for that now ?
[03:33] <furgu> Jack12 yes
[03:33] <furgu> Jack12, do the df thing and tell me %
[03:33] <zorglu1> Jack12: do the ls -ld /tmp again to check it works
[03:33] <empi> CPU_Wizard, you need to run it in  apache I guess
[03:34] <Emess> CPU_Wizard: put it on your webserver, then go to the docs folder and read it
[03:34] <Emess> otherwise you cna sjut go to the setup.php folder i thnk it is and install it that way
[03:34] <furgu> Jack12: and go "chmod a+t /tmp"
[03:34] <Kr4t05> When I try to use amaroK to copy music to my mp3 player, I get this: "Failed to copy track to media device: /mnt/music/Music/My Chemical Romance/Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge/05 I'm Not Okay (I Promise).mp3"
[03:34] <CPU_Wizard> i see i have apache installed... where is that folder to put the files in?
[03:34] <gerard> Can anyone here help me install an extra language?
[03:34] <gerard> Its piss easy with SUSE
[03:35] <Kr4t05> CPU_Wizard, /var/www
[03:35] <Jack12> furgu availability and usage hasnt change when i do the df -k
[03:35] <furgu> Jack12: still 100%
[03:35] <furgu> ?
[03:35] <CPU_Wizard> ok! found it!
[03:35] <furgu> Jack12: and do "chmod a+t /tmp"
[03:35] <empi> Kr4t05, sure your device is under mnt and not media?
[03:35] <furgu> gerard, have you tried system settings?
[03:35] <empi> poor gerard :)
[03:35] <Kr4t05> empi, yes.
[03:36] <rabby> on kubuntu 6.06 im try download from local ftp folder - good, but if this folder have everyone folder - to me request autorythation query and. please say, what i can configure on konqueror
[03:36] <gerard> ah
[03:36] <empi> Kr4t05, then I don't now sorry
[03:36] <furgu> 'Doh
[03:36] <furgu> gerard... the first place to look
[03:36] <Kr4t05> Waii...
[03:36] <Kr4t05> wait*
[03:36] <Raito> gerard, I have the same problem, skim is the kde IME
[03:36] <empi> robby, try  ftp://yourusername@url
[03:37] <gerard> Raito: but it works flawless on kde on suse
[03:37] <gerard> furgu: I only have english as an option when I click on add language
[03:37] <Kr4t05> empi: "/dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[03:37] <Kr4t05> "
[03:37] <furgu> gerard: what language are you trying to use?
[03:38] <gerard> furgu: Japanese
[03:38] <empi> see, it's not /mnt but /media
[03:38] <empi> Kr4t05, see, it's not /mnt but /media
[03:38] <Kr4t05> empi: It does that automatically when it mounts it.
[03:38] <gerard> furgu: skim is preinstalled but it needs a language to choose and by default the installer only installed us and uk english
[03:38] <furgu> gerard: Use KPackage or some package manager to install language-pack-ja...
[03:38] <Jack12> zorglu1 the ls -ld output has changed to drwxrwxrwx 4 root root 4096 jun 28 15:20 /tmp, df -k furglu did not change
[03:38] <gerard> furgu: on the SUSE installer it asks me what languages I want at the start
[03:38] <furgu> gerard: Just search for Japanese
[03:39] <gerard> furgu: did that, no joy
[03:39] <ZomMes> hello!
[03:39] <empi> I know. I guess the problem is that amarok expects a different location, since its trying /mnt/music ... or is that the source?
[03:39] <gerard> furgu: there are dozens of japanese packages
[03:39] <furgu> gerard: You did language-pack-kde-ja too?
[03:39] <furgu> gerard are you using KDE?
[03:39] <Kr4t05> empi, that's the source
[03:39] <gerard> furgu: of course
[03:39] <furgu> never know
[03:39] <gerard> furgu: otherwise I would hang in ubuntu :P
[03:39] <ZomMes> what is the best way to get good sound output with kubuntu?
[03:40] <ZomMes> 'cause it sucks right now
[03:40] <empi> Kr4t05, sorry, then I don't lnow
[03:40] <empi> *know
[03:40] <Kr4t05> ubotu tell ZomMes about sound issues
[03:40] <elie> after installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?
 : anonymous, later i download any folder, but on 6.06 in konqueror configure download no 1 stream, and for my IP on this local ftp only 2 stream
[03:40] <furgu> gerard: I see 5 ja language packages, you installed them all?
[03:41] <furgu> Jack12, make sure you do  "chmod a+t /tmp" too
[03:41] <furgu> Jack12, is your disk usage still 100%?
[03:41] <Jack12> furgu i did and now
[03:41] <elie> after installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?
[03:42] <abattoir> Raito: i think you need to install scim-tables-ja too
[03:42] <furgu> Jack12, I think you still have too much shit on your disk, go into your home and see if there are any big files you can delete
[03:42] <ZomMes> do i need certain drivers or something?
[03:42] <zorglu1> furgu: Jack12: my guess is the /tmp is not the culprit, the disk is full but the data are elsewhere. wild guessing again, the 'trash' may contain a lot of stuff :)
[03:42] <Raito> abattoir: Alright, installing
[03:42] <elie> any1? after installing klamav where i can run it?where it is?
[03:43] <insanekane> hey pradeepto
[03:43] <furgu> elie did you look in all the menus?
[03:43] <Jack12> furgu my home is 67% full, so thats not the prob  you may be right
[03:43] <insanekane> pradeepto: you running breezy or any dapper flight ?
[03:43] <furgu> elie I can assure you it wont find anything
[03:43] <furgu> Jack12 then its not
[03:43] <pradeepto> hey insanekane
[03:43] <Jack12> zorglu1 right but what do i do now?
[03:43] <gerard> furgu: trying now, to be honest I had not tried yet with dapper
[03:43] <furgu> Jack12, the /tmp part is still 100% tho?
[03:43] <pradeepto> insanekane: Dapper LTS
[03:44] <gerard> furgu: I tried with the previous, gave up after a solid 2 days of messing about and switched to suse which I have been using for several months
[03:44] <insanekane> dote
[03:44] <rabby> empi: if folder on ftp has subfolder - i can't down
[03:44] <furgu> sorry gerard... you should try 6.06 now?  I have no idea if will work or not
[03:44] <om_> help! Adept is no longer in the application list.. how do i run it?
[03:44] <gerard> furgu: but with the shipit cd arriving on my doorstep this morning I thought I would give my fav distro another go
[03:44] <VonGeist> is there a way to temporarily gain root status when copying files in the gui (like sudo for the command prompt)?
[03:44] <Kr4t05> su?
[03:44] <gerard> furgu: It's installing now so fingers crossed
[03:44] <Jack12> furgu its partition is 67% , but my root is 100% full; but the error message came from the /tmp which is on hda6 (the same as the home part is on) the one with the 67%
[03:45] <VonGeist> kr4t05: I thought that was just for the command prompt also
[03:45] <zorglu1> Jack12: the root at 100% is not good :)
[03:45] <gerard> furgu: will be nice to come home to Kubuntu as my bloody wifi driver refuses top work under SUSE
[03:45] <abattoir> Raito: i found this http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[03:45] <Hawkwind> Jack12: Did you look in /var/log to make sure your logs haven't eaten up space ?
[03:45] <empi> rabby, works here... maybe permissions of subfolders are wrong?
[03:45] <zorglu1> Jack12: find where you put all the extra stuff and remove the ones you dont need
[03:45] <Raito> abattoir! YES!
[03:45] <Hawkwind> Jack12: That's usually one of the first things to happen actually
[03:45] <Kr4t05> VonGeist: alt+F2 -> kdesu Konqueror
[03:45] <furgu> Jack12, do "cd /var/cache/apt; df -k ." and tell me what % is
[03:46] <Jack12> zorglu1 Hawkwind var is separate part, it has only 8% here as i see from the df output
[03:46] <abattoir> Raito: works?
[03:46] <furgu> gerard: try ndiswrapper, what wifi card do you have?
[03:46] <gerard> Lucky for me I have an Intel mac so can mess about in virtual linux machines before unleasing it on my IBM thinkpad
[03:46] <Jack12> furgu mom
[03:46] <Raito> abattoir: dunno, didn't try yet
[03:46] <Hawkwind> Jack12: Ah ok.
[03:46] <furgu> Jack12, whats up with the mom stuff?  Does that mean yes?
[03:47] <rabby> empi: no, later on 5.10 this be good. I think its konqueror options. sorry for my english
[03:47] <Hawkwind> furgu: Maybe he thinks you're his long lost mom or something :P
[03:47] <empi> np. :) sorry I'm stuck on 5.10 so I can't help you
[03:47] <Raito> abattoir: I got to go soon, I won't have time to finish it, I'll just hope it works
[03:47] <abattoir> Raito: i think that's a bit Ubuntu, hence GNOME, specific
[03:47] <furgu> I told him I would woop his ass if he didnt stop
[03:47] <Hawkwind> furgu: LOL
[03:48] <VonGeist> thanks Kr4t05!
[03:48] <Raito> abattoir: uh oh, >_> ah heck, I'll install ubuntu if it doesn't work, there is nothing on this comp and I installed yesterday
[03:48] <abattoir> Raito: ok, i think Ctrl+Space activates it.
[03:48] <insanekane> Raito: it quite probably wont work in OOo
[03:48] <Jack12> furgu i say a moment need to check..its considered as being polite here ; i get /dev/HDA8 1829159   125922  1605644  8%  /var
[03:49] <insanekane> in fact OOXIM
[03:49] <furgu> Jack12, try rebooting now and see if you get the same error message
[03:49] <Raito> abattoir: Ctrl+Space activates what?
[03:49] <root_> hi,i have a i printer how do i install it?
[03:49] <insanekane> OOo needs XIM
[03:49] <gerard> furgu: ok, have Japanese as an option now, lets see if SKIM wants to play with it
[03:50] <abattoir> Raito: the input window
[03:50] <root_> hi,i have a i960 printer how do i install it?
[03:50] <Raito> abattoir: doesn't work for me
[03:50] <Jack12> where is the kdewallet stored? in the kmenu?
[03:50] <furgu> root_, is the printer plugged in?
[03:50] <root_> yup
[03:51] <furgu> root_, did you try System Settings?
[03:51] <root_> where/
[03:52] <furgu> Start -> System Settings
[03:52] <furgu> root_, the main menu?
[03:52] <furgu> root_, are you using KDE?
[03:52] <Raito> abattoir: I think I get it, I can specify hotkeys
[03:52] <root_> ubuntu
[03:52] <furgu> root_, go to #ubuntu
[03:52] <root_> dapper 6.06
[03:52] <furgu> root_, this is #ubuntu, not too sure in Gnome... sorry
[03:53] <root_> k thnx
[03:53] <gerard> furgu: hmmmm, same problem, skim just wont activate
[03:53] <Jack12> furgu Xsession:warning:unable to write to /tmp; Xsession may exit with an error
[03:53] <insanekane> Raito: do you have KEdit open ?
[03:53] <furgu> gerard, I don't use other languages... what is skim?
[03:53] <gerard> furgu: on SUSE i press ctrl and space and I switch to Japanese input
[03:53] <insanekane> skim is a frontend to scim
[03:53] <furgu> Jack12, I am sorry you are fuct, try reinstalling maybe?
[03:54] <gerard> furgu: skim lets you input japanese
[03:54] <Raito> insanekane: no, what is it? if its a text editor I have Kate
[03:54] <insanekane> Raito: ok, use Kate then
[03:54] <gerard> Why is this so hard?
[03:54] <insanekane> Raito: or in fact any Qt text box
[03:54] <furgu> gerard, is skim installed?
[03:54] <gerard> of course
[03:55] <furgu> have to ask sorry
[03:55] <Hawkwind> Is the scim daemon running ?
[03:55] <insanekane> gerard: do you have any input methods ?
[03:55] <gerard> Always is on 6.06
[03:55] <insanekane> gerard: like scim-tables-ja ?
[03:55] <insanekane> gerard: anyway, you will need to restart your machine for it to work
[03:55] <gerard> insanekane: nope, when I click on the skim icon in the bar I get an empty window
[03:55] <Jack12> furgu its not so bad as i told u i got the new siemens subnotebook its just sad cause there is music and photos on the old machine...if i could just save that with a live cd but i will try again doing that yesterday it didnt work
[03:55] <Raito> insanekane: I set keyboard shortcuts, alt-h for hiragana and alt-k for katakana but when I type alt-h or alt-k in kate nothing happens
[03:56] <insanekane> gerard, Raito: ok, open a Konsole ... type im-switch -s scim_xim
[03:56] <furgu> Jack12, did you back everything up?  Can you hook it up to the network and transfer things out?
[03:56] <Hawkwind> gerard: By default, the scim daemon is NOT set to run.  You have to either start it manually, or set it to run on startup/boot
[03:56] <burepe> I got a small problem. I got a tv tuner card and when I start my comp after plugin it in the comp won't start. The comp is getting power but the bios don't come up. Any suggestions?
[03:56] <insanekane> gerard, Raito: then restart X
[03:56] <Raito> insanekane: nothing happened, the next line just popped up, is that supposed to happen?
[03:57] <furgu> gerard, skim is not installed by default for me
[03:57] <gerard> Hawkwind: I started it manualy
[03:57] <Hawkwind> gerard: Verify it's running, and doing so properly, ps aux | grep scim
[03:57] <gerard> insanekane: I typed that in, and now?
[03:57] <Jack12> furgu what means at kanotix start acpi on offf dma on off what shoul id choose for saving my files?
[03:57] <insanekane> gerard: restart X
[03:57] <Raito> gerard: Did anything happen after or did it just go to the next line?
[03:58] <furgu> Jack12 set both ON I suppose
[03:58] <gerard> insanekane: I did that
[03:58] <Raito> bah I'll just restart X and see
[03:58] <GullyFoyle> anybody use aterm? i created ~/.Xdefaults and put in some aterm-specific lines like aterm*scrollBar_right:true and such but it doesn't work
[03:58] <insanekane> gerard: ok great ... now open Kate, or Kedt
[03:58] <gerard> insanekane: done
[03:59] <insanekane> gerard: after it starts, click in the text area, then click on the Skim icon in the system tray .. do you see any items ?
[03:59] <Jack12> furgu thx well i coul even transfer the data through usb, it just seems to be the case that many of them are locked or read only and i cannot copy them
[03:59] <insanekane> gerard: n fact, when you clck in the text area, the skim icon should change into a (supposedly) a keyboard icon
[03:59] <gerard> insanekane: nope
[03:59] <furgu> Jack12, how old is this computer you are tryng to fix?
[03:59] <gerard> insanekane: I know, it does on SUSE but no, nothing
[03:59] <furgu> Jack12, are you using the new Knoppix CD you made yesterday?
[03:59] <insanekane> gerard: ah you know how to operate Skim ... great
[04:00] <Raito> insanekane: I restarted X but now skim won't start up
[04:00] <Hawkwind> It sounds like scim isn't running properly or wasn't started correctly
[04:00] <insanekane> gerard: ok ... setting up scim is kind of frsutrating on ubuntu ... but anyway here goes
[04:00] <furgu> Jack12, the files should not be locked
[04:00] <insanekane> gerard: run "locale"
[04:00] <Jack12> i am gonna throw away..its a f-siemens amilo with a fucking celeron processor, i am using an uptodate kanotix now
[04:00] <insanekane> gerard: and tell me your output
[04:01] <furgu> Jack12, it almost sounds like a bad hard drive
[04:01] <Raito> insanekane: What do I do after I restart X? And how come I can't start up skim for some reason?
[04:01] <furgu> Jack12, if its 3+ years old that might be the case
[04:02] <insanekane> Raito: start skim from K->Utilites->Skim ... then right click system tray, then Frontend->X->startup on boot (or something similiar)
[04:02] <insanekane> gerard: ?
[04:02] <Jack12> furgu definitely it is i am a too big kde fan to blame either of the linux guys..no its about 1,5 years. whats sad is i cannot access my bookmarks from the konqueror there an empty bookmarks file..
[04:02] <gerard> sorry, I work in IT, get people asking me dumb shit :P
[04:02] <insanekane> gerard: mp
[04:03] <gerard> insanekane: ah
[04:03] <Raito> insanekane: ever since I restarted X when you told me to type something in Konsole skim won't open from K>Utilities>Skim :/
[04:03] <gerard> insanekane: no ja
[04:03] <furgu> Jack12, There are live CDs you can use to check if the HDD is in good shape or not
[04:03] <insanekane> gerard: that doesnt matter
[04:03] <furgu> Jack12, can't think off the top of my head what they are right now tho
[04:03] <gerard> insanekane: everything in there has GB in it
[04:03] <insanekane> Raito: ok, start skim from the console and see why
[04:03] <insanekane> gerard: no problem
[04:04] <insanekane> gerard: ls /etc/X11/xinit/Xsession.d/90im-switch ... is that file there ?
[04:04] <elie> what was theubuntu channel?
[04:04] <Raito> insanekane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16695
[04:04] <Hawkwind> I get this line in /var/log/messages every 20 minutes exactly. Can someone tell me what it means and how to stop it from logging to /var/log/messages ??  Jun 28 07:02:36 localhost -- MARK --
[04:04] <Hawkwind> elie: #Ubuntu
[04:04] <insanekane> gerard: /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90im-switch ... sorry :)
[04:05] <elie> thnx
[04:05] <insanekane> Raito: checkng
[04:05] <gerard> insanekane: yes
[04:05] <furgu> Hawkwind, it is just a mark, means nothing useful for seeing if you computer goes down when it happened
[04:05] <insanekane> gerard: ok, ...
[04:06] <Hawkwind> furgu: Anyway to stop it from doing that or should I just ignore it ?
[04:06] <gerard> insanekane: its an empty file by the looks of it
[04:06] <insanekane> gerard: now, ls /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default
[04:06] <insanekane> gerard: it shouldn't bve
[04:06] <Jack12> furgu i had two users for me, on different partitions dont know why;
[04:07] <nooby_god> I have Ubuntu installed and I want to get Kubuntu
[04:07] <insanekane> Raito: what does 'ps ax | grep skim' say ?
[04:07] <nooby_god> what do I do?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> nooby_god: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will get you the KDE desktop
[04:07] <insanekane> gerard: are you sure it is empty ?
[04:07] <Jack12> furgu hda6 there is a homefolder and its locked, the other home on hda11 i can access
[04:07] <Raito> 6377 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep skim
[04:07] <nooby_god> ok Hawkwind, how do I remove the GNOME desktop?
[04:07] <furgu> Jack12, how is it locked?  I dont understand...
[04:07] <Jack12> furgu how could i unlock that home via livecd?
[04:07] <insanekane> Raito: 'ps ax  | grep scim' ?
[04:07] <Hawkwind> nooby_god: apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop  possibly ?
[04:08] <furgu> Jack12, I dont know, dont know how it got locked in the first place?  How did you mount it?
[04:08] <gerard> insanekane: I did vi and that file, nothing
[04:08] <Hawkwind> nooby_god: Why not keep them both incase you have a problem with one and need to get into a GUI ?
[04:08] <nooby_god> Hawkwind: I have limmited disk space
[04:08] <Hawkwind> nooby_god: Ah ok.  Good enough reason :)
[04:08] <Hawkwind> rraphink: Good morning
[04:08] <gerard> insanekane: ls: /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/default: No such file or directory
[04:08] <Raito> insanekane: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16696
[04:09] <rraphink> hi Hawkwind
[04:09] <insanekane> gerard: sorry to ask this ... but are you sure you are looking at /etc/X11/Xsession.d/90im-switch ?
[04:09] <Jack12> furgu /dev/hda6 /media/hda6
[04:09] <furgu> where are you seeing that its locked Jack12?
[04:09] <insanekane> Raito: ok, so you have the gnome panel ... that should show in the system tray ..
[04:10] <gerard> insanekane: sorry, there are some thing in there
[04:10] <insanekane> gerard: ok, no problem
[04:10] <elie> when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt
[04:10] <Raito> insanekane: What should show in the system tray? I don't see skim T_T
[04:10] <gerard> insanekane: ah no, sorry, it is empty
[04:10] <insanekane> gerard: now, do 'ls /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/' and paste me the results in PM
[04:11] <insanekane> Raito: well, see, there is Skim (KDE version) and scim-panel (GNOME version) ... only one of those wll startup ... but thats OK ... you should see some extra systray icon
[04:12] <insanekane> puckman: ok, you need to install im-switch
[04:12] <elie> any1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt
[04:12] <Raito> insanekane: But the only things on my system tray are the battery, kmix, konversation, klipper, and the KDE waller
[04:12] <Raito> *wallet
 you might be able to edit /etc/init.d/syslogd, do man syslogd for the correct flag
[04:12] <Hawkwind> furgu: Ah ok.  Thanks for that info
[04:12] <puckman> ah, im-switch
[04:13] <Hawkwind> furgu: Wouldn't that be /etc/init.d/sysklogd  actually ?
[04:13] <insanekane> Raito: ok ...
[04:14] <insanekane> Raito: ok, kdesu kwrite /etc/scim/global
[04:14] <Raito> insanekane: So what should I do :?
[04:14] <Hawkwind> furgu: I ask because I don't seem to have an /etc/init.d/syslogd file
[04:14] <furgu> thats what I meant Hawkwind, sorry
[04:15] <Hawkwind> furgu: Ok thanks
[04:15] <insanekane> Raito: then, edit the "scim-panel-gtk" to read "scim-panel-kde" and the "simple" to "kconfig"
[04:15] <Raito> insanekane: ok
[04:16] <Raito> insanekane: should I reboot? or restart X?
[04:16] <insanekane> wait
[04:17] <elie> any1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt
[04:18] <svivian> !rdesktop
[04:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about rdesktop
[04:18] <insanekane> Raito: you need to check the file ~/.scim/global too
[04:18] <Ertain> I still can't seem to get my drawing tablet to register stylus movement and pressure correctly.
[04:18] <svivian> Anyone have tips on improving screen redraws with rdesktop?
[04:19] <furgu> !tttt
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about tttt
[04:19] <furgu> !work
[04:19] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:19] <furgu> Heh
[04:20] <elie> any1? when i login and log off and log in another user and then log off my screen turns off and become black and the sound of logg off freeze like tttt,srry if iam annoying lol
[04:20] <furgu> !black
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about black
[04:20] <furgu> !freeze
[04:20] <Raito> what do I change there insanekane?
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about freeze
[04:20] <furgu> !log off
[04:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about log off
[04:20] <furgu> elie is this new?
[04:21] <furgu> !any1
[04:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about any1
[04:21] <furgu> !annoying
[04:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about annoying
[04:21] <elie> nop after installing ati fglrx with instruciton from ubuntu site
[04:21] <insanekane> Raito: same as before ... scim-panel-kde and kconfig
[04:21] <Raito> insanekane: ok
[04:21] <furgu> elie sorry probably ATI problem, they have bad drivers, I use the "other" guy
[04:21] <jpatrick> !abuse
[04:21] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[04:21] <furgu> elie yell and scream about ATI problems someone might help
[04:21] <Raito> insanekane: Now do I restart X?
[04:22] <elie> lol
[04:22] <insanekane> Raito: cd /etc/X11/xinit/xinput.d/
[04:22] <svivian> elie: the fglrx driver is not very stable at all. I actually wound up swapping out my FireGL for an Nvidia 5500
[04:22] <svivian> Raito: ctrl-alt-bkspc
[04:23] <elie> is there an ati linux irc?
[04:23] <Hawkwind> elie: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#Method_2:_Generating.2FInstalling_Ubuntu_packages_for_the_8.26.18_drivers_in_Ubuntu_Dapper_Manually
[04:23] <Hawkwind> elie: Have you read that ?
[04:23] <Raito> insanekane: What do I do there?
[04:23] <elie> nop will read it thnx
[04:23] <insanekane> Raito: ls scim_xim
[04:23] <svivian> elie: there is an ATI channel, but they weren't much help either
[04:24] <Hawkwind> elie: Also, here is a comment from someone last night in a channel of mine:  <-(  niki  )->   ah, i need to replace libGL.so.1.2
[04:24] <Hawkwind> elie: niki had problems with ATI last night.  She followed that link I gave you and did something with libGL.so.1.2
[04:24] <Raito> scim_xim came up on the line under, a plain ls causes ja_JP, none, scim, scim-anthy, and scim_xim
[04:25] <insanekane> Raito: ok, do 'sudo cp ./scim_xim ./default'
[04:25] <Raito> cp: missing destination file operand after `./scim_xim./default'
[04:25] <Raito> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[04:26] <insanekane> Raito: there is a space in between ./scim_xim and ./default
[04:26] <elie> its say: Unfortunately OpenGL seems to be broken for R200 cards (everything below Radeon 9500) in this driver version. This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with libGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8).
[04:26] <Raito> oh >_>
[04:26] <elie> i have a x800xl lol
[04:26] <Raito> insanekane: Now the next line just popped up
[04:27] <insanekane> Raito: next line ?
[04:27] <Raito> insanekane: nothing just the user@comp:/etc/X11 blahblahblah$
[04:28] <edneymatias> why my environment variable LANG is set to POSIX? After installing ubuntu it was pretty nice, setted to pt_BR.utf8, but it was changed after installing kubuntu-desktop. indeed the setting is right for the installation user, but it isn't for ldap user. How can i  correct this variable? Can some one help me?
[04:29] <desarrollo01> #ubuntu-es
 Set the variable in your .bashrc?
[04:30] <furgu> !es
[04:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:30] <furgu> !fr
[04:30] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:30] <furgu> !en
[04:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about en
[04:30] <furgu> 'doh
[04:30] <edneymatias> furgu: yeah..that's the only way to correct it? and what about the other ldap users? i have to set it for every user?
[04:30] <jfro> hm, so is there no Xorg for ubuntu/kubuntu that has evdev support?
[04:30] <jfro> that's available in apt at least
[04:30] <nooby_god> if I want to remove Ubuntu, because I just installed kubuntu, do I remove ubuntu-desktop or 'Completely Remove' it?
[04:31] <apokryphos> nooby_god: no, you'll have to remove some type of vital gnome lib, or something
[04:32] <apokryphos> nooby_god: i.e. sudo apt-get remove libgnome*
[04:33] <nooby_god> but ubuntu-desktop also has installed a bunch of other programs that I don't use
[04:33] <MeMySelf> hi, I think I got a problem with the Xorg process, as top shows it taking 7-10% cpu usage when doing nothing
[04:33] <MeMySelf> I think it should be like 0.2% or so
[04:33] <jfro> oh nm, think i found it
[04:34] <MeMySelf> what do you think
[04:34] <apokryphos> nooby_god: removing libgnome will remove practically everything
[04:34] <elie_> HawKind: on the site they say:
[04:34] <elie_> If you suffer from slow 2D speed it might help to set
[04:34] <elie_> Option		"XaaNoOffscreenPixmaps"
[04:34] <elie_> in the fglrx section of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <furgu> edneymatias: man bash says try /etc/bash.bashrc
[04:35] <elie_> and i cant find the fglrx sexion look at my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16697
[04:35] <nooby_god> apokryphos: I still need to use some GNome applications like GIMP, will removing libgnome affect that?
[04:35] <apokryphos> nooby_god: yes, it'll remove it. I recommend reinstalling the ones you want after
[04:36] <MeMySelf> could anybody tell me how much cpu does your xorg process take?
[04:36] <elie_> HawKwind: on the site they say:
[04:36] <gerard> insanekane:
 do you have special features like transparency/shadows or anything enabled?
[04:36] <MeMySelf> I mean when you aren't doing anything, not while moving windows or things like that
[04:36] <elie_> and i cant find the fglrx sexion look at my xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16697
[04:36] <gerard> lol, ok, it crashed, so I restarted
[04:36] <insanekane> hello gerard
[04:36] <MeMySelf> no that I know furgu
[04:36] <gerard> insanekane: and now I have a serious problem
[04:36] <furgu> sorry no idea then
[04:37] <insanekane> which is ?
[04:37] <gerard> insanekane: my screen resolution is to big
[04:37] <MeMySelf> well only the kde menu traslucency but not using the new extensions
[04:37] <gerard> insanekane: I'm using vmware and I cant access the botttom of my screen to access any of the menus
[04:37] <gerard> lol
[04:38] <gerard> insanekane: i can run command, anyone know what the command is for system settings?
[04:38] <insanekane> gerard: umm ...
[04:38] <insanekane> gerard: kcontrol
[04:39] <gerard> insanekane: I get "could not run specified command"
[04:39] <edneymatias> furgu, thank you, i'll try that! but i didn't figure out where is the difference between installation user and ldap users. Maybe i have to set up something in pam ldap...or the kubuntu installation broke something...'cause other ubuntu machines doesn't act like that even when ldap users log on.
[04:39] <insanekane> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:39] <insanekane> gerard: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:40] <gerard> insanekane: nothing happens
[04:40] <gerard> i dont have a terminal btw, just the run box
[04:40] <MeMySelf> could anyone make a top and show me how much cpu their xorg process take please?
[04:41] <insanekane> oh rght
[04:41] <gerard> got it
[04:41] <Hawkwind> elie_: They mean in the 'Device' section where fglrx is defined
[04:41] <insanekane> gerard: why dont you run konsole then
[04:42] <gerard> erm, trying to get my screen resolution down as its bigger than my monitor
[04:42] <Wes> #kubuntu-es
[04:43] <apokryphos> gerard: try changing your refresh rate
[04:43] <MeMySelf> anybody can help?
[04:43] <johannes__> guys how would i change in my screen resolution in system settings ? it seems that there is just one resolution for me..whould i need the reconfigure xorg thing again?
[04:43] <apokryphos> johannes__: check the FAQ
[04:43] <edneymatias> furgu, and what about kdm, why does it set the right locale for installation user? there isn't any local configuration for that user, none i could find!
[04:45] <MeMySelf> could anyone tell me how much cpu their xorg process take please?
[04:45] <Wes> Hola alguien que hable o escriba Espaol
[04:45] <MeMySelf> hola wes
[04:45] <Wes> Hola que tal
[04:46] <MeMySelf> que te cuentas
[04:46] <Wes> de donde eres?
[04:46] <Hawkwind> MeMySelf: 31243 root      15   0 95856  63m 7696 S    0  6.3  36:29.24 Xorg
[04:46] <MeMySelf> de corua
[04:46] <MeMySelf> tu
[04:46] <Wes> Caracas
[04:46] <MeMySelf> ok
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Wes: #Ubuntu-ES
[04:46] <Wes> un poco lejos verdad
[04:46] <MeMySelf> jeje
[04:46] <MeMySelf> pues si
[04:46] <bombero> Wes: hola
[04:46] <Hawkwind> Ermmm #Kubuntu-ES actually
[04:46] <Wes> Hola bombero
[04:46] <bombero> como estas ?
[04:47] <Wes> Gracias Hawkwind
[04:47] <bombero> y cual es tu problema ?
[04:47] <MeMySelf> eso
[04:47] <MeMySelf> :D
[04:47] <Wes> Bien vale, pero aqui parece que no quieren ayudarme
[04:47] <Wes> me estan corriendo
[04:47] <pussfeller> did dapper change the way storage devices are handled in some major way
[04:47] <MeMySelf> y ya que estamos, podrais hacer un top y decirme cuanta cpu chupa vuestro proceso xorg?
[04:47] <pussfeller> cause they seem to hang and drag more
[04:48] <Hawkwind> Guys, please take the spanish talk to #Kubuntu-ES and NOT here
[04:48] <MeMySelf> porque el mo no baja de 7%
[04:48] <johannes__> apokryphos i did that reconfigure what they say there but in the system settings it doesnt change...hwo can i find out which resolution i am using actually right now?
[04:48] <bombero> Wes: avces hay que esperar un poco, hasta que aparece persona adequada
[04:48] <bombero> Wes: pero no creo que no quieren
[04:48] <apokryphos> johannes__: right-click > configure desktop > display
[04:48] <puckman> insanekane: thanks for that, resolution back to normal
[04:48] <Wes> je, si vale
[04:49] <insanekane> puckman: great
[04:49] <puckman> insanekane: now where where we?
[04:49] <Wes> bue.... Esperare o bueno alli les va la pregunta...
[04:49] <bombero> Wes: ademas hay mas kanales de Ubuntu, creo que tambien uno #ubuntu-es
[04:49] <bombero> Wes: o algo asi
[04:49] <MeMySelf> yo ahora estoy en Kubuntu-ES
[04:50] <MeMySelf> visto el xito que tuve aqui...
[04:50] <Wes> Ok MeMySelf
[04:50] <puckman> insanekane: damn, now skim dont want to start at all
[04:50] <Wes> Bueno me convencieron
[04:50] <Wes> Gracias
[04:50] <Wes> Hasta luego
[04:50] <edneymatias> no one can help me with my language problem?
[04:53] <Wes> Pero la pregunta no caeria mal, verdad?.... Cual es la extension de los archivos de errores de Inicio
[04:56] <MeMySelf> pues suelen estar el /var/log
[04:56] <MeMySelf> espera
[04:57] <MeMySelf> creo que es concretamente el /var/log/messages
[04:57] <bombero> Wes: inicio de que ? busca en /var/log  o prueba dmesg
[04:57] <sir_binary> slackware
[04:57] <MeMySelf> para errores en Xorg es otro
[04:57] <bombero> Wes: o te entendi mal ?
[04:57] <MeMySelf> es /var/log/Xorg.log o algo as
[04:58] <Wes> No bueno creo que no me supe explicar
[04:58] <apokryphos> Wes, MeMySelf, bombero: English ONLY in here please.
[04:59] <apokryphos> I'm sure you know where the Spanish channels are
[04:59] <MeMySelf> yeah were there's nobody joined in
[04:59] <MeMySelf> sorry I meant where
[04:59] <BKaj> I've been to kubuntu.org and the "libtag" pkg sites but can't find one, anyone have a source URL for " libtag_c.so.0 " ?
[05:00] <apokryphos> MeMySelf: doesn't make a difference, I'm afraid; you will have to continue your discussions in there.
[05:00] <BKaj> apokryphos: yer all over these linux distrus, aren't ya  :)
[05:00] <apokryphos> BKaj: it's in the libtagc0 package
[05:01] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Can someone tell me if Automatix Is any good?
[05:01] <apokryphos> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: automatix is bad
[05:01] <apokryphos> !automatix
[05:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:01] <apokryphos> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: i recommend using easyubuntu instead
[05:01] <apokryphos> !easyubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:01] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ok
[05:01] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Thanks
[05:02] <BKaj> yeah  apokryphos, I looked there , but that particular lib file isn't there
[05:02] <apokryphos> BKaj: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libtag_c.so.0+&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=dapper&arch=i386
[05:02] <apokryphos> it is
[05:02] <Wes> Disculpen... Pero alguien me podria explicar cual es el problema entre un idioma y otro para utilizar estos medio...?
[05:02] <apokryphos> Wes: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to tell you again.
[05:02] <apokryphos> !es
[05:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:03] <apokryphos> Wes: only English in here
[05:03] <Wes> Ok Thanks
[05:03] <Wes> ja
[05:05] <KDEfanboy> where are the packages that incorporate the 6/14 KDE security updates? http://dot.kde.org/1150310128/
[05:05] <BKaj> apokryphos: , I've already installed that pkg and when I call up streamtuner the dialog tells me this file is missing  >libtag_c.so.0
[05:05] <apokryphos> BKaj: then it's likely looking for it in the wrong place
[05:05] <apokryphos> BKaj: what's hte output of ls -lh /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0
[05:06] <BKaj> it still works but the dialog is annoying
[05:06] <BKaj> hang on
[05:06] <apokryphos> KDEfanboy: they're probably already commited, and put into dapper-security
[05:07] <BKaj> apokryphos: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 2006-06-28 10:02 /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0 -> libtag_c.so.0.0.0
[05:07] <apokryphos> BKaj: and ls -lh /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0.0.0
[05:08] <BKaj> apokryphos: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 13K 2006-01-19 11:14 /usr/lib/libtag_c.so.0.0.0
[05:08] <apokryphos> looks fine
[05:08] <KDEfanboy> apokryphos: well i have that repository, but adept is showing the last update for kdm being on 6/12
[05:08] <Yaccina> anyone can help me with kxgenerator?
[05:08] <apokryphos> as you can see, it's there; the program must be looking for it in a very odd place
[05:09] <BKaj> ok, well the program runs fine without it anyway :)
[05:09] <apokryphos> KDEfanboy: perhaps they were commited then, then.
[05:11] <KDEfanboy> hmm, anyone know where to find the package changelogs?
[05:13] <v3ctor> the artswrapper one is ok, not setuid root
[05:13] <apokryphos> KDEfanboy: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdebase/kdebase_3.5.2-0ubuntu27/changelog
[05:13] <apokryphos> it's there
[05:14] <KDEfanboy> ah, thanks much
[05:14] <bennukem> salut
[05:15] <buddho> salut
[05:15] <apokryphos> !fr
[05:15] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[05:15] <bennukem> enfin ,c'est re plutot
[05:15] <bennukem> j'ai pas de son avec mon kubuntu alors que kde lui fait du bruit
[05:15] <bennukem> snif
[05:16] <buddho> ubotu : yep ok
[05:16] <apokryphos> English only in here please, use the above channels for French discussion.
[05:16] <buddho> bennukem viens sur kubuntu-fr on en parle
[05:16] <bennukem> ok
[05:25] <acesuares> hi all
[05:25] <sanjay> hello
[05:25] <acesuares> having problems with lm-sensors on ubuntu-server dapper
[05:26] <acesuares> MAKEDEV don't work as expected and the error 'No i2c device files found. Use prog/mkdev/mkdev.sh to create them.'
[05:26] <acesuares> is given by sensors-detect.
[05:26] <sanjay> can some one tell how to uninstall oracle 10g xe
[05:28] <h3sp4wn> kubuntu uses udev
[05:29] <corteum> umm can sumone gimme a hand ....im trying to get a mixer to run on my desktop...i quit kmix and ran command hdspmixer...says opening app ...then it just dissapears ...and its not on my process list
[05:29] <corteum> were did it go
[05:30] <acesuares> h3sp4wn: yes I guessed because the i2c-0 to i2c-7u appera in /dev/.static/dev but not in /dev
[05:30] <acesuares> however, if it's using udev, why does lm-sensors package not work ?
[05:30] <h3sp4wn> Have you built the kernel modules ?
[05:30] <acesuares> why do I need to build the kernel modules ?
[05:31] <acesuares> I mean, apt-get install lm-sensors should do the trick, rioght ??
[05:31] <acesuares> and by the way, yes, I can modprob i2c-dev
[05:32] <acesuares> do i need any more kernel modules ?
[05:33] <acesuares> I also followed http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/327
[05:33] <acesuares> but that didn't work (because of those missing devices)
[05:35] <corteum> umm can sumone gimme a hand ....im trying to get a mixer to run on my desktop...i quit kmix and ran command hdspmixer...says opening app ...then it just dissapears ...and its not on my process list ...were did it go
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> acesuares: Works fine for me
[05:39] <acesuares> h3sp4wn: really ? do you have ubuntu-server or 'just' ubuntu (desktop) ?
[05:39] <edu> problems with audio... can't play sounds
[05:39] <acesuares> becasue I have it running on Dapper Kubuntu (desktop version)
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> acesuares: kubuntu with bits from debian sid and the udev from edgy
[05:40] <acesuares> edu: dapper, breezy, wgat version
[05:40] <edu> acesuares: dapper
[05:40] <acesuares> h3sp4wn: you're way to advanced for me :-P
[05:40] <insanekane> hello aseigo
[05:41] <acesuares> edu: I found this yesterday after a loooong time with no sound: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152196
[05:41] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> How would I set Firefox as my default browser?
[05:41] <acesuares> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: waht version, kubuntu dapper ???
[05:41] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Ya
[05:41] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> dapper
[05:41] <edu> acesuares: thanks, I'll take a look
[05:42] <acesuares> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: Kubuntu, yah ? If you don't give correct versions and stuff, it's hard to help
[05:43] <acesuares> assuming kubuntu: go to System Settings and the KDE Components, there you can fiddle with browser and email
[05:43] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Kubuntu Dapper
[05:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Thanks
[05:45] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> but one more question
[05:45] <ninHer> hi all
[05:45] <acesuares> LiNuX_LoVeR_17:  shoot
[05:46] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> acesuares, why would I be in the Kubuntu room if I had anything but Kubuntu? :-)
[05:46] <bennukem> re
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> acesuares: When you run sudo sensors-detect - What happens ?
[05:46] <acesuares> LiNuX_LoVeR_17: I think you'll find that answer in /etc/sysconfig/acesuares/confused-by-many-open-windows=TRUE
[05:47] <acesuares> heh
[05:47] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> lol oh ok
[05:47] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> acesuares, ;-) lol
[05:49] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Anyone here play AOE?
[05:53] <OdyX> anyone using knode successfully here ?
[05:53] <kronoz> hmm just got my 5 kubuntu cd's mailed to me :)
[05:54] <Yaccina> anyone knows a good graphical tool for configuring wacom tabletts? :(
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> there's one built it
[05:55] <DeadS0ul> in even
[05:56] <daschu> when i go to the adept updater, the only thing that is available is an update for kdm (X display manager for KDE)... but it says that it is broken... can i remove it to reinstall or is there a way to fix it?
[05:57] <daschu> when i go to the adept updater, the only thing that is available is an update for kdm (X display manager for KDE)... but it says that it is broken... can i remove it to reinstall or is there a way to fix it?
[05:57] <daschu> sorry
[05:58] <daschu> my bad
[05:59] <Dragoonz> good morning everyone... well almost afternoon... but any rate i'm looking for someone to help me with AD authenication.  I have tried several things with some luck... but i have reinstalled and would like to know the right way to do it
[06:03] <daschu> any help about fixing kdm (x display manager for KDE)??
[06:04] <TheHighChild> dashu do you know what package it's interfering with?
[06:04] <ubuntu> how to make an *.iso from an directory?
[06:04] <trappist> daschu: try `sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install` in a console
[06:04] <TheHighChild> he left trappist
[06:04] <trappist> ubuntu: man mkisofs
[06:04] <trappist> TheHighChild: oops :)
[06:05] <acesuares> ubuntu: man mkisofs
[06:05] <trappist> you tell him acesuares
[06:05] <acesuares> trappist: you beat me cause I checked it that command really was accessible in dapper :-)
[06:05] <acesuares> it=if
[06:06] <ubuntu> acesuares: is it a iso with a dir in it or will evrything inside the dir be on root-level?
[06:06] <Fiyawerx> !lamp
[06:06] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:06] <acesuares> ubuntu: I didn't read the f. manual, but if you do, it might tell you how to achieve such cunning structure.
[06:07] <acesuares> And it'll also tell you about Rock Ridge, Joliet, Bootable (!) CD's and more and more...
[06:07] <acesuares> and don't forget that yuou can mount -o loop=/dev/loop/0 /filename.iso /mnt/yourmountediso !
[06:07] <acesuares> yes yes, iso's are fun !
[06:07] <Fiyawerx> hey guys anyone familiar with the lamp apps? I did theinstall of apache2, mysql and php4, and after a reboot my network stopped auto connecting
[06:08] <ubuntu> im here because i didn't understand TFM
[06:08] <acesuares> ubuntu: if you run X, for intacne KDE with Kubuntu, you can just use K3B which is a cd-burner application (like CDToast and what have you)
[06:08] <tackat> TFM means  "The Fucking Manual". Does that answer your question?
[06:09] <acesuares> and from these programs you can make very simple an .iso image wihtout learning about mkisofs and cdrecord and dao and tao etc etc.
[06:09] <acesuares> tackat: we're getting absurdly hilarious here. :-0
[06:09] <Hobbsee> !language
[06:09] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:10] <acesuares> intacne = instance
[06:10] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ping
[06:10] <imbrandon> pong
[06:10] <acesuares> ubuntu: do you have kubuntu dapper installed ?
[06:10] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: you might want to watch these guys, and or boot them
[06:10] <ubuntu> my sys is only bootable from my burner (which contains kubuntu-desktop-cd)
[06:12] <acesuares> Hobbsee: I would like to know what you mean by 'these guys' and boot them'.
[06:12] <Hobbsee> acesuares: was referring in particular to tackat, and boot usually refers to either a kick, a ban, or both.
[06:12] <imbrandon> acesuares, she means to keep an eye on the room to make sure it dosent get out of hand or offtopic and conforms to the CoC
[06:12] <acesuares> ubuntu: if you have kubuntu running, you can start up K3B and then make an image (of the directory you want to make an image of).
[06:12] <BoSJo> Hi all. Is there any way to set Konqueror up to have the same look and feel like Total Commander http://www.ghisler.com/picture.htm
[06:13] <acesuares> Hobbsee: thanks for specification, I took care not to spell out the F in RTFM :-)
[06:13] <Hobbsee> hehe
[06:13] <imbrandon> ;)
[06:13] <imbrandon> RTM works too ;)
[06:13] <acesuares> imbrandon: thanks for helping keep things non-flamable.
[06:14] <acesuares> tackat: I guess choose wordings more carefull :-)
[06:14] <Fiyawerx> anyoen know what would cause kubuntu to not autoload the network on bootup? If i go to the wireless manager under internet and pick my network it connects fine
[06:14] <acesuares> ubuntu: what do you want to make an iso of ?
[06:14] <edu> acesuares: bad luck, now I can hear my voice (mic is working), but can't listen audio files
[06:14] <acesuares> ubuntu: because you need a place to sore the image, that would be on your harddisk, preferably.
[06:15] <Fiyawerx> and my /etc/network/interfaces seems to be in order
[06:15] <acesuares> edu: have you speakers connected or headphones ? I assume speakers.
[06:15] <edu> acesuares: speakers
[06:15] <acesuares> In the mixer (kmix) there is a slide for 'wave' this is some blue squirrely icon. Let me look if I can find a screenshot for ya.
[06:17] <ubuntu> acesuares: my /home
[06:17] <edu> acesuares: I see that blue icon (PCM)
[06:17] <acesuares> edu: http://kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=17363&file1=17363-1.png&file2=17363-2.png&file3=17363-3.png&name=KDE+UI+Tweaking&PHPSESSID=490387a6ec2cc2f1ec66166a4106dbb6
[06:17] <ubuntu> acesuares: k3b: permission denied
[06:17] <acesuares> (man what a url). Maybe simpler: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=17363 and then click on the first
[06:17] <acesuares> picture.
[06:17] <ubuntu> acesuares: sudo k3b -> crash
[06:18] <acesuares> why sudo
[06:18] <acesuares> ubuntu why sudo
[06:18] <elie> any 1 know how to add a schortcut into the menu?
[06:18] <acesuares> just use the menu (the 'K' which I shall call Start button).
[06:18] <dr_willis> !sudo
[06:18] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:19] <acesuares> ubuntu: press the Start Button, go to Multimedia, choose K3B (CD & DVD Burning)
[06:19] <acesuares> !k3b
[06:19] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/K3BHowto
[06:20] <ubuntu> acesuares: sudo because k3b tells me: permission denied
[06:20] <edu> acesuares: ok, the green light is on and the PCM volume level at 100%... what else?
[06:21] <acesuares> edu: I don't know what else... at least you can hear sound now (through your mic).
[06:21] <acesuares> edu: you *should* hear something if you played a .wav or .ogg file... Play around for a while you'll suddenly find out why and what, but
[06:21] <edu> acesuares: yep, I hear sounds through the mic... only that
[06:22] <acesuares> I can't help more 'cause I don't know so much about this either.
[06:22] <ubuntu> btw: how to make an iso with k3b?
[06:22] <edu> acesuares: ok, thanks a lot
[06:22] <acesuares> edu
[06:22] <acesuares> edu: what are you using to play music/sounds ??
[06:22] <acesuares> ubuntu: if you open K3B it telss you permission denied ??
[06:23] <acesuares> unbuntu: or it tells you to run k3bsetup ??
[06:24] <ubuntu> no if i add my files it tells me that it has no read permission
[06:24] <acesuares> ubuntu: http://www.math.hmc.edu/computing/support/burning-cds/
[06:24] <acesuares> now in the step 'THE CD BURNING PROCESS' just click 'Only Create Image'.
[06:24] <acesuares> There you are.
[06:24] <edu> acesuares: cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp, play sound.wav, amarok... it seems to be playing but no sound is heard, everything being apparently fine but hearing no sound!
[06:25] <acesuares> edu hmmm... but your mic gives you sound -> sound card working.
[06:25] <dr_willis> edu that sounds like the mixer has the volume muted.
[06:25] <imbrandon> amarok is alsa and /dev/dsp is oss
[06:25] <edu> acesuares: that's right
[06:25] <edu> dr_willis: I know, but it's not
[06:26] <acesuares> edu: buy an mp3 player or ipod
[06:26] <Fiyawerx> acesuares: i ahd the same problem, i had to try random jacks, turned out it was outputting through one of my microphone jacks (hp media center pc, so the sound jacks are all over the place)
[06:26] <acesuares> edu: put those little earphones on your mic
[06:26] <Fiyawerx> er.. that was for edu i think
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> Sounds like the speakers are plugged into th wrong place
[06:26] <acesuares> edu: crank up the volume on you PC and spekaers
[06:26] <dr_willis> yep - ive seen that as well Fiyawerx
[06:26] <ubuntu> acesuares: normal k3b has no permission to read normally only ownerreadable files
[06:26] <acesuares> and voila! another happy customer !
[06:26] <imbrandon> heya nixternal
[06:26] <dr_willis> low end sounds cards that have jacks that can be input., or output depending on the driver-settings and whats plugged in.
[06:27] <nixternal> bah
[06:27] <dr_willis> What is this sound card anyway?
[06:27] <Fiyawerx> dr_willis : it's a pain cus my headphones won't reach the back of my pc heh, so i have to run the pc to the stereo then headphones into that
[06:27] <dr_willis> extension cable? :P
[06:27] <Fiyawerx> dr_willis : not sure how low end it is, but the "front" panel jacks can be configured for either intput or output, the rear no
[06:27] <acesuares> ubuntu: you have the jack in the right place since you can hear your mic through the speakers
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> You lose quality with those cheap extension cables
[06:28] <edu> acesuares: in fact, when I log in as root, it works fine
[06:28] <acesuares> ubuntu: you have the Line Jack Sens OFF
[06:28] <acesuares> edu ahhhh!
[06:28] <acesuares> edu and now you're telling us...
[06:28] <edu> aceseuares: but it doesn't when I use another user account
[06:28] <acesuares> try to look in what groups you are
[06:29] <acesuares> yuou made a new account with that (insert curse) KUser ?
[06:29] <edu> acesuares: I am member of audio group
[06:29] <acesuares> edu: still, something must be wrong
[06:29] <Elie_> how 2 add a shotcut in alacarte?
[06:29] <acesuares> edu: can you compare a normal user that DOES work with your user ?
[06:29] <acesuares> you can go terminal and user 'id useraccount'
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> Elie_: alacarte is for gnome
[06:30] <acesuares> like 'id ubuntu' and it'll tell you in what groups you are.
[06:30] <Elie_> k
[06:30] <edu> acesuares: done
[06:30] <acesuares> edu: and what's the difference ?
[06:31] <edu> acesuares: normal users are members of their own group only
[06:31] <acesuares> then they can't use audio ?
[06:32] <edu> acesuares: well, I added them to the "audio" group, but no effect
[06:32] <edu> acesuares: I restarted, but nothing changed
[06:32] <acesuares> 4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin)
[06:32] <acesuares> edu: above are the groups my 'main' user is in.
[06:33] <acesuares> edu: normal users, I don't put them in admin and lpadmin, but the rest yes
[06:33] <acesuares> edu: i can't understand why KUser doesn't do this more sensible
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> somebody here can help me with openoffice?
[06:33] <acesuares> edu: like give you choice between more type of users.
[06:33] <Tallia1Kubuntu> every time that i write a formula with the equation editor, the size is locked :|
[06:34] <acesuares> edu: resume: soundcard ok, alsa/kmix/oss/whatever drivers and deamins are ok
[06:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i don't really like it, is there a way to not use defalt lock on resize for formula objects?
[06:34] <edu> acesuares: yes... let me explain you a thing
[06:34] <acesuares> edu: speakers are okay, only problem is permissions. You will be able to sort that out..
[06:34] <acesuares> edu yes ?
[06:35] <edu> acesuares: I created manually a group called "admin"
[06:35] <acesuares> edu: huh ? it's already there in the default install !
[06:35] <KaoticEvil> well, that was annoying
[06:36] <sup> Hi... I'm later... What's up whit the admin user?
[06:36] <edu> acesuares: 'cause install had a problem, and it was no present in the default install
[06:36] <acesuares> edu: reinstall, then ?
[06:36] <dr_willis> what admin use ? :P
[06:36] <edu> acesuares: I created "a posteriori"
[06:37] <acesuares> edu: I created 'tagliatelli al dente' and various fungi !
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> edu: If that is the case is the audio group present ?
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> edu: run - ls -la /dev/audio
[06:38] <edu> h3sp4wn: yes, it's present
[06:39] <acesuares> edu: unless you know what you do Iwould consider reinstalling and fix the problem you had during install! bye for now, ace
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> edu: When you run that command do you get root audio (or root 1031)
[06:39] <edu> h3sp4wn: crw-rw---- 1 root audio    /dev/audio
[06:40] <sup> edu: did you try chmod 666 /dev/audio?
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> edu: cat /etc/group | grep audio
[06:41] <edu> sup: nope, do you mean rw access for ugo?
[06:41] <trappist> or, more efficiently, grep audio /etc/group
[06:41] <sup> edu: yes
[06:41] <trappist> or getent group audio
[06:42] <edu> h3sp4wn: all my users are members of "audio"
[06:42] <sup> edu: sometime, I see this some problem in my distro, and im fix this perm in /dev/audio and work very well....
[06:42] <sup> edu: sorry... I see this same problem.....
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> sup: It is past my ability to help you without more information (and I can't spend ages trying to get it) sorry
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> edu sorry
[06:44] <edu> sup: it doesn't work
[06:44] <edu> h3sp4wn: thanks
[06:45] <sup> edu: can you tell me all your problem... I arrive now and I don't know your complete problem
[06:45] <om_> amarok keeps displaying HTML code on the bottom left for some reason. i'm running a fresh install of kubuntu. here's a screen shot: http://87.69.69.13/temp/snapshot2.jpg
[06:46] <sup> edu: What you try to do?
[06:46] <trappist> om_: I've heard that problem addressed on #amarok, but I don't remember the solution
[06:47] <om_> thanks trappist.. im there now but nobody is talking
[06:47] <om_> oh they say they couldnt figure it out
[06:47] <om_> damn
[06:47] <trappist> doh
[06:48] <sup> edu: do you try access /dev/audio or you try use kmix in kubuntu?!?!?
[06:48] <edu> sup: of course... my sound card is properly detected, I can play audio as root, but my other users can't... it seems to be playing but no sound is heard, everything being apparently fine but hearing no sound! OTH, mic is working and I can hear my voice
[06:49] <sup> edu: tell me about your hardware...
[06:49] <Fiyawerx> hmm, anyone know where to manually set specific dns entries? my pc doesn't seem to be resolving anything
[06:49] <v3ctor>  /etc/resolv.conf
[06:49] <edu> sup: cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp, play sound.wav, amarok... the file is playing but no sound is heard
[06:49] <furgu> edu: so the mic works as a user, you can hear yourslef, just not other audio?
[06:50] <v3ctor> ^^ for dns entries
[06:50] <edu> furgu: right
[06:50] <furgu> edu: must be a mixer problem...
[06:50] <trappist> furgu: /etc/hosts
[06:50] <trappist> gah
[06:50] <Fiyawerx> resolv.conf : DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[06:50] <trappist> Fiyawerx: /etc/hosts
[06:50] <furgu> edu: how much have you looked at the mixer?
[06:50] <Fiyawerx> trappistit worked until i install the LAMP stuff, so i'm not even sure what thats supposed to look like
[06:50] <trappist> resolv.conf will be clobbered by dhcp
[06:51] <furgu> edu: try changing all of the sliders
[06:51] <furgu> edu: sometimes mine look correct but actually are not
[06:51] <sup> edu: well, did you try use kmix in kde, open the mixer, and open PCM channel in all turn
[06:51] <gerard> ello
[06:51] <edu> furgu: I already changed all of the sliders, but nothing happened
[06:52] <edu> sup: Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.10rc3 emulation code)
[06:52] <Fiyawerx> anyone know if anything in here (my etc/hosts) would stop dns from resolving?
[06:52] <Fiyawerx> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16700
[06:52] <furgu> edu: in kmixer there are little lights under the different outputs/inputs... they should all be *bright* green (not dull green), is that true?
[06:53] <edu> furgu: yep, all the lights are bright green... ON
[06:53] <trappist> furgu: is this a vmware installation?
[06:53] <trappist> dangit I did it again
[06:53] <furgu> heh trappist
[06:53] <trappist> Fiyawerx: is this a vmware installation?
[06:53] <Fiyawerx> i have a feeling it had something to do with mysql or php, i remember one of them popping up a message related to the network but i didn't write it down
[06:53] <Fiyawerx> trappist: nope, worked fine until i followed the !lamp guide
[06:53] <edneymatias> hi again!
[06:53] <sup> edu: sorry in this time, i have to leave this room... I hope you can fix your problem.. bye
[06:53] <trappist> Fiyawerx: what does your resolv.conf look like
[06:53] <edneymatias> i'm still in problem...
[06:53] <furgu> edu: did you move the bottom slider (left/right)?
[06:54] <Fiyawerx> trappist: not doing dhcp either, have it set static IP so i can forward ports
[06:54] <edu> furgu: no, I didn't
[06:54] <Fiyawerx> trappist: resolv.conf is empty, with those lines about not editing it manually
[06:54] <trappist> Fiyawerx: well that's why you can't resolv anything
[06:54] <Fiyawerx> trappist: not sure what caused it then, it was working up until today really
[06:55] <trappist> Fiyawerx: you need an entry like 'nameserver 4.2.2.2" but with the ip of your dns server
[06:55] <Fiyawerx> in resolv.conf?
[06:55] <trappist> yes
[06:55] <Fiyawerx> won't that get overwritten?
[06:55] <trappist> only by dhcp - it looks like dhcp *tried* to set it up, which is why it says don't edit and why it's empty
[06:55] <sampan> what's the cli command to change your password?  sudo passwd ...?  every time i change it, it says updated, but ... it doesn't stick -- to do any sudo/kdesu i have to type the OLD password
[06:56] <Fiyawerx> ahh
[06:56] <trappist> sampan: just 'passwd'
[06:56] <Fiyawerx> that's funny, i use 4.2.2.2 as my backup :)
[06:56] <sampan> doh!  thanks trappist
[06:56] <edu> furgu: nothing happened
[06:56] <v3ctor> `sudo passwd` would try to change root passwd
[06:56] <Fiyawerx> so can i have 2 nameserver lines?
[06:56] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: yes
[06:56] <trappist> Fiyawerx: yes, primary and secondary
[06:56] <v3ctor> 3 atually
[06:56] <trappist> as many as you like actually
[06:57] <trappist> but more than 3 is getting a little ridiculous
[06:57] <Fiyawerx> do you have to tell it primary/secondary? or just nameserver blah's
[06:57] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: no
[06:57] <sampan> v3ctor  gotcha ... well, i guess i have a root password now -- though what i would ever use it for, i have no idea... is there an easy way to delete it?  or should i just leave it be?
[06:57] <trappist> oh my bad, 3 is max according to the man page
[06:57] <v3ctor> just `namserver <ip>`
[06:57] <edu> furgu: I have 2 mixers, C-Media PCI and VIA 82xxxxxxxx
[06:58] <Fiyawerx> thanks guys, gonna reboot and hope it sticks, seems to be working tho :)
[06:58] <Fiyawerx> no idea what fubard it
[06:58] <v3ctor> sampan: you can just leave it
[06:58] <BKaj> Can anyone tell me why Mplayer requires root root to install it ...it's there but i can't get access to make the file executable ?
[06:59] <furgu> edu, if you go to System Settings-> Sound & Multimedia, to the Hardware tab, do you see options in there?
[06:59] <trappist> Fiyawerx: looks like dhcp tried and failed to set it up
[06:59] <furgu> BKaj, all programs require root for 'sytem' install
[07:00] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: your dhcp server either has no dns info or you got bad data and it ignored it
[07:00] <furgu> Bkaj, how did you install
[07:00] <furgu> ?
[07:00] <sampan> v3ctor  thanks
[07:00] <v3ctor> sampan: np
[07:01] <edneymatias> it seems kdm is overriding my LANG variable or isn't reading it at all! always i get logged in my LANG variable is setted to POSIX instead of pt_BR.utf8 as in the terminals....the /etc/environment file is correctly configured...what's going on?
[07:01] <edu> furgu: I see many options there
[07:02] <BKaj> I didn't it's in the koq file , must have DL 'd with updates or something
[07:02] <BKaj> konq
 Did you change /etc/bash.bashrc?
[07:02] <furgu> edu, is the audio device set to ALSA?
[07:02] <furgu> edu, Full duplex?
[07:02] <edneymatias> furgu, yeah yeah...i did it...and it really worked...but i'm still curious about that....
[07:03] <furgu> edu, under general tab does Test Sounds work?
[07:03] <edneymatias> furgu, i just found a bug in launchpad...about that...
[07:03] <ubuntu___> interesting
 my LANG was screwed up too, particularly in konsole, just gotta live with it for now I guess
[07:04] <trappist> edneymatias: my LANG is set to C in my /etc/profile - but I may have done that myself
[07:04] <edneymatias> furgu acording to the bug report the problem can be solved by adding a parameter to kdmrc in /etc/kde3/kdm
[07:04] <edu> furgu: test sounds doesn't work, and the audio device is set to "Autodetect", with full duplex disabled
[07:04] <edneymatias> furgu, the link https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/48576
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> hey guys
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> after a reboot
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> it rewrote my resolv.conf
[07:04] <Fiyawerx> oh
[07:04] <furgu> edu, try setting it to ALSA, apply and test sound
[07:04] <edneymatias> furgu, the link https://launchpad.net/bugs/48576
[07:05] <Fiyawerx> it's a symlink, resolv.conf -> /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf
[07:05] <furgu> edneymatias, not much I can do about it but thanks for the info
[07:06] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: did it populate properly this time?
[07:06] <edu> furgu: the same... no sound is heard
[07:06] <edneymatias> furgu, i will try that also, but that doesn't answer why things go ok with installation user and not with ldap users....
[07:07] <furgu> edneymatias, I don't understand, LDAP users get a shell?
[07:07] <Fiyawerx> v3ctor: nope
[07:07] <Fiyawerx> v3ctor: after reboot, no resolution
[07:07] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: do other systems get dns info correctly?
[07:07] <trappist> Fiyawerx: what does /etc/network/interfaces look like
[07:07] <furgu> edu, where do you have the speakers plugged in?  front panel or back panel?  My particular sound driver has a problem, I have to install the headphones into the mic jack of the front panel
[07:08] <furgu> edu, I would try all the jacks just to make sure it isnt something dumb like that
[07:09] <edneymatias> furgu, when ldap users log in the kdm the LANG is setted to POSIX ignoring what is in /etc/environment, so programs like openoffice get crazy...
[07:09] <Fiyawerx> trappist: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16703
[07:09] <Fiyawerx> v3ctor: yes
[07:09] <Fiyawerx> v3ctor: i really think something with the mysql install did it
[07:09] <furgu> edneymatias, sorry I'm being silly, LDAP is just being used to authenticate, but this doesnt happen with local users then?
[07:09] <edu> furgu: but now I can hear sounds registered by the mic... this is weird
[07:09] <edneymatias> furgu, when i change to gdm it works fine even if i log in kde...so i thing it's something in kdm...
[07:10] <v3ctor> Fiyawerx: i had this problem on my laptop at work....everything worked fine except at work
[07:10] <trappist> Fiyawerx: you've got most of your devices (do you really have all those?) set to use dhcp
[07:10] <furgu> edu, the driver is made wrong, or the implementation for the chip is silly, the the output goes to the wrong jack, dont ask... I have some Intel sound chip
[07:10] <edu> furgu: and the user "root" has no audio problems!
[07:10] <Fiyawerx> trappist: don't use any of them but wireless
[07:10] <furgu> edu, never mind then if root is ok
[07:10] <trappist> Fiyawerx: the wlan0 or ath0?
[07:10] <furgu> edu sorry i forgot
[07:10] <Fiyawerx> trap: wlan0
[07:10] <edneymatias> furgu....indeed i have only one local user and it works fine...i will test with anothers local users...
[07:11] <trappist> Fiyawerx: get rid of eth0, et1, eth2 and ath0 then
[07:11] <furgu> edneymatias the kdmrc link you sent doesnt work?
[07:11] <trappist> Fiyawerx: from that file
[07:11] <edneymatias> i didn't test yet...
[07:11] <Fiyawerx> trappist: rgr, and then edit resolv.conf? I think I may trying to reinstall mysql first, it was working fine with this exact config until i installed that
[07:11] <edneymatias> furgu thank you...i will try now...see ya!
[07:11] <trappist> Fiyawerx: yes
[07:12] <Fiyawerx> !lamp
[07:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:12] <furgu> edu, what are permissions on dev/dsp? (ls -al /dev/dsp)
[07:13] <edu> furgu: please, could you tell me what GID do "lpadmin" and "admin" have?
[07:14] <furgu> edu, 104 and 106
[07:14] <h3sp4wn> fiyawerex: I would recommend mod-perl over php
[07:14] <edu> furgu: well, my lpadmin GID is 106! is this a problem?
[07:14] <furgu> edu, no it sounds right
[07:15] <furgu> ls -al /dev/audio
[07:15] <furgu> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 2006-06-21 15:03 /dev/audio
[07:15] <furgu> edu ^^^
[07:15] <ChefWill> anyone recommend a good php/html text editor..kate just isnt working for me
[07:15] <furgu> those are the perms on my dev/dsp
[07:15] <furgu> too
[07:15] <trappist> ChefWill: vim
[07:15] <robotgeek> ChefWill: quanta?
[07:15] <furgu> and dev/audio edu
[07:15] <robotgeek> trappist: be friendly to new users :)
[07:15] <edu> furgu: yes, the same on my dsp
[07:15] <trappist> robotgeek: I'm being friendly!
[07:15] <trappist> :)
[07:15] <furgu> !emacs
[07:15] <ubotu> Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), vi/vim (terminal-based), terminal based: vi/vim, emacs, nano (user-friendly). HTML/CSS editors: !html; Programming: !code
[07:16] <furgu> !code
[07:16] <ubotu> Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs; KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello; GNOME: gvim, gedit, eclipse, pida
[07:16] <furgu> Quanta is so broken
[07:16] <furgu> I like it, but the visual editor sucks monkey balls
[07:17] <edu> furgu: crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio  /dev/audio (I changed the perms to 666, but nothing happened)
[07:17] <furgu> edu, ls -al /dev/snd, same permissions?
[07:18] <furgu> !html
[07:18] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:18] <edu> furgu: 660 for ugo on all of them
[07:18] <furgu> No NVU?
[07:18] <furgu> zomg
[07:19] <Kreuger> furgu: what about NVU?
[07:20] <edu> furgu: look, my lpadmin GID is 106, which is your admin GID! is this a problem?
[07:20] <corteum>  /nick digital_caeser
[07:20] <furgu> edu, no, like I said it is okay, they are the same
[07:20] <furgu> Kreuger, Nvu should be listed under !html?
[07:20] <Fiyawerx> trappist: it's still removing my resolv.conf entries
[07:20] <Kreuger> what do you mean !html??
[07:20] <furgu> !html
[07:20] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:20] <edu> furgu: I created the "admin" group manually with GID = 999
[07:21] <trappist> Fiyawerx: what does your resolv.conf look like now
[07:21] <Fiyawerx> trappist: same thing as before, # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[07:21] <Kreuger> Im well aware what html is but what's with the exclamation mark infront of it?
[07:21] <furgu> edu, admin=106, lpadmin=104
[07:21] <furgu> edu, you shouldnt futz around with those anyways
[07:22] <furgu> edu, did you have admin and lpadmin groups?
[07:22] <furgu> edu, is this a fresh install or upgrade?
[07:22] <furgu> Kreuger, the bot will tell you things, its all knowing... type !word
[07:22] <furgu> like:
[07:22] <furgu> !work
[07:22] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[07:22] <Kreuger> oh
[07:22] <edu> furgu: my admin=999, lpadmin=106... maybe this has bad effects...
[07:23] <Kreuger> that what ubotu is then
[07:23] <furgu> edu fix them, why are you changing them?  bad edu
[07:23] <furgu> !ubotu
[07:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:23] <Kreuger> I believe itdoesn't have NVU because Ubuntu doesn't come with it by default
[07:23] <edu> furgu: sorry, I didn't changed them! look, in my default fresh install, "admin" group was not present...
[07:24] <furgu> Ubuntu doesnt come with much by default Krueger, esp Quanta+, so thats obviousaly not the reason
[07:24] <v3ctor> my kubuntu came with nvu by default
[07:24] <Kreuger> dapper does I think. that's how I got it
[07:24] <edu> furgu: so, I created "admin" manually with GID 999
[07:24] <furgu> dapper comes default with Quanta+?
[07:24] <Kreuger> no I meant NVU
[07:24] <Kreuger> not installed but in the repos
[07:25] <Kreuger> and Quanta+ was there too, it was in there for breezy as well
[07:25] <v3ctor> mine waas installed by default
[07:25] <furgu> Kreuger, almost everything is in the repos...?
[07:25] <Kreuger> nvu wasn't when I had breezy
[07:25] <edu> furgu: I'm gonna change those GIDs
[07:25] <v3ctor> it is on my dapper box
[07:25] <v3ctor> hmm
[07:26] <Kreuger> I remember I had to download the source and I couldn't get it working and when I upgraded to dapper it was in the  repos
[07:27] <DaSkreech> 2//////////////////////////`
[07:28] <edu> furgu: please, could you tell me what GID do "crontab" have? (104 in my system)
[07:28] <robotgeek> anyways, nvu can be installed from the repos :)
[07:28] <Kreuger> yeah, why's it matter if the bot has it anyway?
[07:29] <Philip5> i have a little problem with a setting in kde... kubuntu comes by default with a one-click action with the left mouse button but i like the dubble click to activate stuff... wich setting controlls that? i guess its in windows behaviour somewhere?
[07:30] <edu> please, could you tell me what GID do "crontab" have? (104 in my system)
[07:30] <Kreuger> Philip5: when you installed did it ask you about keyboard layout? It should've asked if you want KDE or Windows or more (I forget what else)..I'm not positive but that might affect your mouse too
[07:30] <Philip5> maybe and i think i answered kde in that case
[07:30] <Fiyawerx> ugh, great, i made a change that sent the prompts for apt-installs to kde, and now im getting errors about it unable to initialize kde frontend during package installs and remvoals
[07:31] <Philip5> but how do i change it? i keep by habit to dubbel click and it's a bit annoying
[07:31] <robotgeek> Fiyawerx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -f Dialog debconf
[07:31] <Fiyawerx> robotgeek: thanks, no idea why that just stopped working again too
[07:31] <robotgeek> or sudo apt-get install libqt-perl
[07:31] <Kreuger> Philip5: look in kcontrol (K menu -> system settings)
[07:31] <Fiyawerx> all i did was install the LAMP stuffs and all kind of problems pop up, heh
[07:32] <Kreuger> Philip5: you should see Mouse under Hardware it has the settings there
[07:32] <Fiyawerx> ugh, and im not in the mood for this resolver problem, going to end up just reinstalling the system again
[07:32] <minsc> Hello, after kubuntu-install, how can i set my screen-res. and refresh-rate?
[07:34] <Philip5> Kreuger, thanks... there it was... i was looking through all the windows settings and behaviours
[07:35] <edu> hey people... need some help
[07:36] <jorge_> wireless placa quem sabe?
[07:36] <Kreuger> you're welcome
[07:36] <jorge_> obridado
[07:37] <Fiyawerx> !lamp
[07:37] <jorge_> obrigado
[07:37] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[07:37] <Fiyawerx> ubotu says you can install a lamp server from the boot menu, is that not on the dvd?
[07:37] <Fiyawerx> i've been using the install dvd, maybe thats my problem with stuff
[07:37] <edu> I wanna know what GIDs have the groups 1xx -> "users", "dchp", "syslog", "klog", "crontab", "ssh", etc.
[07:38] <furgu> edu, you shouldnt change these GIDs!
[07:38] <furgu> edu, I am scared for your system
[07:39] <furgu> edu, if crontab had 104 then your system is proba different than mine
[07:39] <Fiyawerx> and is there anywhere that details what the "install a server" (doesnt say lamp) option is on the boot dvd
[07:40] <edu> furgu: I know, but my install crashed and I'm trying to fix my system manually
[07:40] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: The only cd with that option is the ubuntu-server.iso
[07:40] <furgu> edu, if your install crashed reinstall, dont try to fix
[07:40] <edu> furgu: please, do cat /etc/group | grep 10. for me
[07:40] <furgu> edu, no, no more help until you do a good install
[07:40] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: the lamp option?
[07:41] <edu> furgu: I can't reinstall, it crashes always...
[07:41] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: Yep
[07:41] <furgu> edu, are you sure your CD and ISO are good?
[07:41] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: ah ok
[07:41] <edu> furgu: absolutely
[07:41] <DaSkreech> edu: Always at the same place?
[07:41] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: guess i'll have to pay more attention next time to see what it does to my network again
[07:41] <edu> furgu: kubuntu-i386-alternate.iso or something like that
[07:41] <furgu> edu, always in the same place?
[07:42] <furgu> edu, always crash in the same place?
[07:42] <edu> furgu: yes, always in the same place
[07:42] <DaSkreech> edu: Where?
[07:43] <edu> furgu: when installing basic packages, at 86%
[07:43] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: i think you should just install libapache2-mod-perl2 mysql-server (then you will have what you need)
[07:43] <furgu> edu, how did you check your ISO?
[07:43] <edu> furgu: for that reason I skipped some final steps, my system works FINE, I have only this sound problem... nothing important, but I want to fix it
[07:43] <furgu> edu and CD for that matter?
[07:44] <edu> furgu: md5sum
[07:44] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: i followed the instructions in the !lamp link, i do remember it saying something about the network but i was dumb and didn't write it down
[07:44] <furgu> edu, how about your CD-Rom?  Are you sure that is good?
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: ? edit /etc/network/interfaces
[07:44] <furgu> edu, there are probably many post-install steps that are not being done
[07:45] <edu> furgu: I am pretty sure my CD-Rom is good
[07:45] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: that works fine, dns stopped working
[07:45] <edu> furgu: maybe, but I made a full upgrade
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: Running a dns server ?
[07:45] <edu> furgu: with Adept
[07:46] <h3sp4wn> Running a dist-upgrade with adept could cause problems
[07:46] <furgu> edu, I would make sure you do a clean install, I can not help any more until you do that.  Adept will not make you have a clean install either.
[07:46] <DaSkreech> edu: I would press Alt+Ctrl+F1 (or F2 I Forget) and the after the (broken) system is installed just get those packages from the net
[07:46] <furgu> DaSkreech, what post-install setup does Ubuntu do?
[07:47] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: sorry, dns _resolution_ stopped
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: Do you use dhcp or static ip ?
[07:47] <Fiyawerx> static ip
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:47] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: i did, and with no interfaces on dhcp, it still gets overwritten every reboot
[07:48] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: but i never had to do that before, even on static
[07:48] <edu> DaSkreech: good point, but I did it in my first KDE session after install
[07:48] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: until i installed the mysql/php/apache stuff
[07:49] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: I never use packages for apache (Distro's mess with the configuration too much of me)
[07:51] <h3sp4wn> Fiyawerx: I can't understand why any of those packages would affect resolv.conf
[07:51] <furgu> edu, if I had to guess there are probably some important things happening in which you are missing out on.  I wish you could do a fresh install
[07:51] <werx> h3sp4wnme either, but thats literally what I did, from a reboot -> follow instructions on !lamp page, -> reboot, no dns resolution anymore
[07:52] <ariel_> hello folks
[07:52] <werx> h3sp4wn: i'm going to be re-going through them, and see if i can find what it said about the network
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Hallo
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> werx: But if you add nameserver 194.112.32.1 then dns resolution works again ?>
[07:52] <edu> furgu: yes, I wish that too...
[07:52] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: yep
[07:53] <Fiyawerx> h3sp4wn: until i reboot
[07:53] <ariel_> quick question. The live CD 6.06 which I feel is great finds my HP laptops broadcom wireless card but will not let me configure it. Anyone know how I can fix this?
[07:53] <edu> furgu: but something goes wrong at 86%
[07:53] <furgu> edu, can you make a new CD and try a different CD-Rom?
[07:53] <Travis|linux> I have a question for all of you... I just got a new keyboard (Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 4000).. the keyboard itself works fine but it has some special functions I would like to get working.. It has a button for web browser, search, mail, volume, play, and calculator.. how would I get them working??
[07:53] <edu> furgu: I tried a CD-RW too, and same situation
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> !debootstrap
[07:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about debootstrap
[07:54] <edu> furgu: CD-RW unit, i mean
[07:55] <furgu> !bootstrap
[07:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about bootstrap
[07:56] <Kreuger> !HD DVD
[07:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about HD DVD
[07:56] <Kreuger> !blueray
[07:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about blueray
[07:56] <Kreuger> !kernel
[07:56] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:56] <gatekeeper> edu: have you got a problem installing dapper onto your HDD?
[07:56] <furgu> edu, look at logs in /var/log/installer
[07:56] <furgu> edu, see anything weird?
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> !info debootstrap
[07:56] <ubotu> debootstrap: Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In repository main, is extra. Version 0.3.3.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 47 kB, installed size 240 kB
[07:57] <furgu> !nothing
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[07:57] <furgu> fucking bots
[07:57] <Kreuger> !info blue ray
[07:57] <ubotu> Package blue does not exist in dapper
[07:57] <Kreuger> aw it has to be ubuntu related?
[07:57] <Kreuger> !info e-penis
[07:57] <furgu> !html
[07:57] <ubotu> Package e-penis does not exist in dapper
[07:57] <ubotu> html is HyperText Markup Language, used to build webpages. Editors in Ubuntu: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem. For howto on HTML coding, see: http://www.w3schools.com
[07:57] <furgu> !e-penis
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about e-penis
[07:57] <Kreuger> !css
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about css
[07:57] <furgu> !man crontab
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about man crontab
[07:58] <Kreuger> !xmms
[07:58] <furgu> !info crontab
[07:58] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[07:58] <edu> gatekeeper: yes, it crashed
[07:58] <ubotu> Package crontab does not exist in dapper
[07:58] <v3ctor> !no stinking clowns
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about no stinking clowns
[07:58] <Kreuger> hahaha
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> !info anacron
[07:58] <ubotu> anacron: a cron-like program that doesn't go by time. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.3-11ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 29 kB, installed size 196 kB
[07:58] <om_> which repository do i need to add to get the updated amarok?
[07:58] <Kreuger> !make
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[07:58] <om_> hopefully it will stop crashing..
[07:58] <Fiyawerx> heh, if the first thing you go into is system-settings -> network settings, and click administer mode, it never prompts you for sudo password after a fresh install
[07:59] <furgu> HACKER
[07:59] <Kreuger> om: see here
[07:59] <Kreuger> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[07:59] <om_> thanks!
[07:59] <Kreuger> no problem
[07:59] <gatekeeper> edu: OK step 1 run badblocks, if that is OK run the CD and make it do a self check to make sure everything is OK, I had a bad Maxtor HDD exactly the same problem
, maybe ksudo still thinks you are authenticated?
[08:00] <Kreuger> !kde
[08:00] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:01] <gatekeeper> furgu: looks as if you are getting a little frustrated :-)
[08:01] <Kreuger> !frustrated
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about frustrated
[08:01] <Kreuger> !boredom'
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about boredom'
[08:02] <Kreuger> !dapper
[08:02] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[08:02] <om_> should i install amarok 1.4 or 1.4.1beta? is the beta less stable?
[08:02] <Kreuger> !eft
[08:02] <ubotu> eft is a newt in its terrestrial stage of development - the release after Dapper will be called Edgy Eft.  For information and pictures of efts/newts, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt or try !edgy
[08:02] <Kreuger> om: no it is not any les stable
[08:02] <Kreuger> !edgy
[08:02] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[08:03] <Kreuger> om: if you want to be safe, don't go with the beta but I used it no problem
[08:03] <furgu> !having a lack of sex because I don't experience those desires.
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about having a lack of sex because I don't experience those desires.
[08:03] <Kreuger> haha nice
[08:03] <kronoz> efy should have reiserfs support!
[08:03] <kronoz> er eft even
[08:04] <om_> Kreuger: yeah well i wouldnt update except that my 1.3.9 keeps crashing
[08:04] <Kreuger> shouldn't it be having sex because I don't have experience?
[08:04] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[08:04] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[08:04] <Kreuger> !bothater
[08:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about bothater
[08:04] <Kreuger> !info bot
[08:04] <ubotu> Package bot does not exist in dapper
[08:04] <Kreuger> !bot
[08:04] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:04] <robotgeek> Kreuger: you can go and investiage ubotu privately :)
[08:05] <Kreuger> but Im having fun here :p
[08:05] <edu> gatekeeper: I'm running badblocks now... did you have sound problems?
[08:07] <gatekeeper> edu: I have in the past had to turn the sound on with alsamixer, and I have followed the wiki instructions to get amaroK running, apart from that I am pleased to say all is OK
[08:08] <gatekeeper> edu: do you get any sound if you go to system setting -> sound and press the test sound button?
[08:08] <edu> gatekeeper: no, I don't
[08:10] <gatekeeper> edu: you have done that test and it fails?
[08:10] <edu> gatekeeper: yes, it fails
[08:11] <edu> gatekeeper: but my soundcard is working, 'cause I can hear my voice throgh the mic
[08:11] <gatekeeper> edu: and you are sure the sound is turned on (using kmix or alsamixer)?
[08:12] <edu> gatekeeper: I'm sure
[08:14] <AppleSux> Anyone know why AmaroK would not play a valid mp3/ogg file - It just displays - playlist finished
[08:15] <gatekeeper> edu: like furgu says do a fresh install, or at the very least run the Dapper live CD go to system settings -> sound and do a sound test, if it's not picking up your sound card then you need to find out if it is supported
[08:15] <AppleSux> All other players work just fine
[08:15] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: codec problem hang on...
[08:16] <AppleSux> ahhh .. ok.
[08:16] <robotgeek> AppleSux: libxine-extracodecs?
[08:16] <edu> gatekeeper: my soundcard is OK, root can play music
[08:16] <AppleSux> robotgeek 1 sec let me check
[08:17] <DaSkreech> ok after a few minutes Xorg takes up 100 % of my CPU rendering all my efforts to be productive useless
[08:17] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: what have you enabled extra?
[08:17] <DaSkreech> XGL?
[08:17] <cox377> is there anyway to add fonts to kubuntu?
[08:18] <robotgeek> DaSkreech: do you have the evil binary drivers installed?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> fglrx
[08:18] <AppleSux> robotgeek - yes on the libxine
[08:18] <DaSkreech> cox377: Go to konqueror and type fonts:/
[08:18] <AppleSux> robotgeek - all other players work
[08:19] <AppleSux> robotgeek - using VLC now
[08:19] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: probable need to install libxine-extracodecs w32codecs have a look at http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/2663/how-to_get_full DON'T BLINDLY do everything it says
[08:19] <AppleSux> robotgeek - using VLC listening to ogg file right now
[08:19] <robotgeek> AppleSux: amarok does not play ogg? wth
[08:19] <robotgeek> !codecs
[08:19] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:19] <AppleSux> gatekeeper that is for lame ass MS formats
[08:19] <robotgeek> gatekeeper: please recommend wiki and official documentation first :)
[08:20] <cox377> daskreech: cheers for that, do i have to log in via root to get new fonts into that folder?
[08:20] <gatekeeper> robotgeek: ok :-)
[08:20] <AppleSux> robotgeek - it just says playlist finished on ALL FILES
[08:20] <robotgeek> AppleSux: hmm, weird.
[08:21] <AppleSux> yeah
[08:21] <robotgeek> AppleSux: what engine have you in settings?
[08:21] <AppleSux> i tried that too
[08:21] <AppleSux> xine
[08:22] <AppleSux> xine with output plugin set to auto
[08:22] <robotgeek> AppleSux: to be honest, i have never seen something like this
[08:23] <AppleSux> no biggie - i can mess w it later as I have all other media players working
[08:23] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Any way to trace the CPU spikes?
[08:24] <AppleSux> Daskreech - top
[08:24] <AppleSux> Daskreech - type man top
[08:24] <DaSkreech> AppleSux: I know what's doing it I want to know why
[08:24] <DaSkreech> Xorg takes up 100 % of my CPU and just kind of sticks there
[08:24] <DaSkreech> sometimes drops to 99.98
[08:25] <AppleSux> Daskreech - are you fully patched?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> But it also becomes an unkillable process
[08:25] <DaSkreech> I'm going to try that now
[08:25] <AppleSux> apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade
[08:25] <AppleSux> Daskreech - Is that on all websites?
[08:26] <stallion88> hi everybody
[08:26] <AppleSux> Daskreech - your performance issues I mean
[08:26] <AppleSux> hey stallion88
[08:26] <stallion88> can anybody help me with compiling a game?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> No It's just random within 10-15 minutes of me logging into X
[08:26] <DaSkreech> Ok all patched up now
[08:27] <DaSkreech> stallion88: Sure but I'll probably be popping in and out
[08:28] <fowlduck> how can i add an application to be run on login to kde?
[08:28] <stallion88> DaSkreech: no problem:)
[08:28] <DaSkreech> !autostart
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about autostart
[08:28] <robotgeek> fowlduck: add it to your session
[08:28] <DaSkreech> stallion88: You have b-e?
[08:28] <fowlduck> robotgeek: yes, and how?
[08:29] <robotgeek> theres a section in the desktop guide available from the K-menu -> help
[08:29] <fowlduck> robotgeek: i'm really looking for a graphical way to do that
[08:29] <robotgeek> fowlduck: yes, there is a grapihical way mentioned
[08:29] <stallion88> DaSkreech, sorry but what is b-e??
[08:29] <fowlduck> you can't just tell me?
[08:29] <AppleSux> fowlduck - go to Systems settings >> Systems services
[08:30] <DaSkreech> !b-e
[08:30] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[08:30] <AppleSux> KDE is the best!
[08:30] <DaSkreech> stallion88: Which Game btw?
[08:30] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: <quote> For mp3/avi/quicktime/dvd playback support you will need to install libxine-extracodecs package </quote> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok?highlight=%28CategoryDocumentation%29
[08:31] <stallion88> DaSkreech, sauerbraten
[08:31] <svivian> Anyone have tips on improving screen redraws with rdesktop?
[08:31] <AppleSux> gatekeper - i have the libxine-extracodecs and I am not trying to play files that are sh1t apple formats anyhow
[08:32] <monomaniacpat> Hi guys - having trouble encoding in LAME with KAudioCreator - little help?
[08:32] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: thought it wouldn't play mp3?
[08:32] <rideout> svivian: nxclient sometimes gives better preformance
[08:33] <AppleSux> gatekeeper - it doesnt play anything.  it only says - Playlist finished
[08:33] <robotgeek> AppleSux: might want to ask in #amarok
[08:33] <rideout> svivian: also, check out tsclient, it is a frontend to rdesktop and allow you to see all the options and tweak them
[08:33] <AppleSux> gatekeeper - all other players work just fine
[08:33] <furgu> !nxclient
[08:33] <AppleSux> meh
[08:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about nxclient
[08:33] <furgu> !info nxclient
[08:33] <ubotu> Package nxclient does not exist in dapper
[08:33] <robotgeek> !freenx
[08:33] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:34] <furgu> !info freenx
[08:34] <ubotu> Package freenx does not exist in dapper
[08:34] <robotgeek> its not in the repos
[08:34] <furgu> Freenx is great, but I took forever for me to setup correctly
[08:34] <furgu> it*
[08:34] <h3sp4wn> furgu: Sevas's repository has freenx its pretty easy to setup
[08:34] <monomaniacpat> when encoding lame it tells me it cannot complete because it doesn't like the genre (americana)
[08:35] <rideout> that how i did it Sevas is grat
[08:35] <gatekeeper> AppleSux: I presume you have checked configure amaroK -> Engine?
[08:35] <furgu> I know I am sure I used a repository to install but still had some strange mysterious issues (evnetually related to permissions but horrible error messages)
[08:36] <AppleSux> gatekeeper - yes sir.  Any ideas though
[08:37] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to compile the program kmediafactory and I need the right Qt libraries.  Trouble is, the versions I have in Adept would break my system.  It says it has "Ubuntu3" release but I have "ubuntu6" release.  Any ideas on this one?  I think I need to install libqt3-dev, but as I have said if I installed that one it would break my system.
[08:37] <robotgeek> Ertain: sudo apt-get install kmediafactory
[08:38] <gatekeeper> if xine won'y play ball you could try installing the gstreamer stuff, I had a dell where I had to prat around with the engines untill I got it to work
[08:39] <Ertain> robotgeek: Ah, keen observation.  But that's not the version I want.  In the 0.5.1 version the "add video" option is disabled.  I'm trying to compile it so that I can add video.
[08:39] <robotgeek> Ertain: sudo apt-get install build-dep kmediafactory
[08:40] <edu> root account is enabled or disabled by default?
[08:40] <ChefWill> disabled
[08:40] <Ertain> Okay, I'll try that, robotkeen.
[08:40] <Ertain> Er, robotgeek.
[08:41] <edu> ChefWill: ok, thanks
[08:41] <Ertain> Whelp, that didn't work.
[08:41] <thomas_> hi@ll
[08:41] <thomas_> could anybody help me with compiz and xgl?
[08:41] <robotgeek> !xgl
[08:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:42] <robotgeek> Ertain: doesnt work meaning?
[08:42] <Ertain> I tried that command and it didn't work.
[08:42] <thomas_> i got the error that GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap is not available
[08:42] <Ertain> I'd sure love to get Xgl working.
[08:43] <robotgeek> Ertain: meaning what? it would setup your system for compiling kmediafactory. however, you might need to install other versions of libraries
[08:43] <robotgeek> !compile
[08:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[08:45] <Ertain> No, I mean that I used your exact command and it didn't work.  Said something about "not finding build-dep".  Perhaps the wording is wrong?
[08:45] <robotgeek> Ertain: sudo apt-get build-dep kmediafactory
[08:45] <robotgeek> sorry
[08:46] <Ertain> Right-o then.
[08:46] <edu> how could I change computer workgroup using the GUI?
[08:46] <Ertain> Didn't work.  The build dependencies could not be satisfied.
[08:47] <robotgeek> thats odd, do you have the src repos enabled?
[08:48] <robotgeek> in /etc/apt/sources.list , you would need deb-src
[08:48] <robotgeek> i think you might need deb-src for universe and multiverse, Ertain
[08:49] <Ertain> Yep got that.  If it's also worth repeating that I have a version mismatch for libqt3-mt-dev and other packs.
[08:49] <robotgeek> did you install those on your own?
[08:50] <Ertain> No, I used Adept. Though I think I used other repositories than the standard ones for Ubuntu.
[08:50] <rideout> edu: system settings -> sharing -> file shareing - click on adminstrator mode, you can mess around with settings there
[08:51] <Ademan> anyone here use gdesklets?
[08:51] <robotgeek> Ertain: cant garauntee your systems amount of borkage :)
[08:51] <Ertain> I wonder if I can downgrade at least libqt3-mt?
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Ademan: i think #ubuntu maight have a bigger group using them
[08:52] <rideout> Ertain: in synaptic you can select any available version
[08:53] <Ertain> Maybe I should then select the older libqt3-mt with Synaptic?
[08:53] <rideout> Ertain: that might do it for you
[08:54] <edu> I wanna change my computer workgroup, how could I do this?
[08:55] <rideout> Ertain: right click on the package, choose propeties then select the versions tab
[09:00] <edu> how to share files between Linux and Windows machines the easy way?
[09:00] <raphink> edu: use samba
[09:00] <raphink> !samba
[09:00] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:00] <raphink> de janeiro
[09:00] <sotired> I just finished installing kubuntu, and i am more than impressed. However, I have a second hard drive with all my music on it and i a unable to mount it.
[09:01] <edu> raphink: I'm on it
[09:01] <edu> raphink: but XP can't see my shared folders
[09:01] <raphink> ah, too bad
[09:01] <raphink> I cn't help you on this side
[09:01] <raphink> I don' thave windows ;)
[09:01] <edu> raphink: I don't know how to change computer workgroup, either
[09:02] <raphink> edu: edit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[09:02] <raphink> or .cf don't remember
[09:02] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to get LAME to encode properly?
[09:02] <edu> raphink: conf
[09:02] <raphink> if you can't find how to change the workgroup, I can't do anything for you
[09:02] <edu> raphink: and how thrugh the GUI?
[09:02] <edu> raphink:  :D
[09:02] <sotired> you want to change the workgroup on the window$ machine?
[09:02] <raphink> edu: maybe through systemsettings > Sharing but I doubt so
[09:02] <raphink> sotired: what's your filesystem?
[09:03] <edu> sotired: nope, on the kubuntu machine
[09:03] <sotired> ntfs
[09:03] <sotired> on the drive im trying to access
[09:03] <raphink> sotired: could you convert it to FAT32, using partition magic e.g. ,
[09:03] <raphink> that would help
[09:03] <sotired> i just want to pull my music off of it and then wipe it
[09:03] <sotired> wont i lose my music that way?
[09:03] <raphink> ah right
[09:04] <raphink> sotired: I think you can convert your filesystem with partition magic without losing data
[09:04] <raphink> I _think
[09:04] <raphink> _
[09:04] <raphink> haven't tried it, diidn't have the occasion
[09:04] <monomaniacpat> kaudiocreator fails with LAME claiming it doesn't support the genre (americana)
[09:04] <raphink> but as I'm sure you're an honnest multimedia consumer, you must have the original CDs with you and must be able to encode them in ogg directly
[09:04] <raphink> :)
[09:04] <sotired> i dont think i can use partition magic on this machine
[09:04] <sotired> ha
[09:05] <sotired> so there is absolutly no way to mount an ntfs partition?
[09:05] <raphink> sure there is sotired
[09:05] <sotired> oh
[09:05] <raphink> just the same way you mount another partition
[09:05] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: i had same mesg yesterrday..LAME doen not support genre "misc" LOL
[09:05] <trappist> except it will be read-only
[09:06] <raphink> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/yourpartition /your/mounting/point
[09:06] <edu> do I need to create accounts on my kubuntu machine with same name & password than the windows accounts?
[09:06] <heinkel_111> i wonder if LAME is really emo?
[09:06] <sotired> thank you raphink
[09:06] <rideout> sotired: i have this in my /etc/fstab: /dev/sda2       /mnt/winc       ntfs-fuse    user,noauto,ro,umask=000    0       0
[09:06] <rideout> of course you need to set up ntfs-fuse
[09:06] <raphink> rideout: it is a bad idea to use /mnt/winc
[09:07] <raphink> this doesn't respect the LSB hierarchy standards
[09:07] <trappist> raphink: why?
[09:07] <raphink> not that I see anyone respecting it
[09:07] <trappist> ah.
[09:07] <sotired> i only need to access it long enough to grab my music and a few backups, then im going to wipe it
[09:07] <raphink> but I care that it is followed somehow ;)
[09:07] <raphink> otherwise there's no point in using /media
[09:07] <furgu> !SWAT
[09:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:08] <monomaniacpat> heinkel_111: any ideas? I'm just uding the genre specified by CDDB :?
[09:08] <rideout> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:08] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: yeah it is quite easy to work around it unless you are hung up about the genre
[09:08] <h3sp4wn> furgu: Are you trying to enable swat ? It run's from inetd (which needs to be installed and running)
[09:09] <monomaniacpat> heinkel_111: OK, what are acceptable genres?
[09:09] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: i think you have a file>edit record option
[09:09] <furgu> no h3sp4wn, I just saw a message and wanted to see what exactly it is
[09:09] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: just select from drop down menu in there
[09:09] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: can you find it?
[09:10] <heinkel_111> monomaniacpat: i have norwegian version, maybe some other menu names
[09:10] <h3sp4wn> furgu: Its the official web interface for samba (Best to just edit smb.conf though its pretty well documented)
[09:10] <furgu> yah thx h3sp4wn
[09:10] <BoSJo> All: Trying to use adept, nomatter what i try to get it tells me that it encountered an error and/or it would brake packages?? any ideas
[09:11] <furgu> BoSJo, try installing with apt-get, does it give any more information?
[09:11] <furgu> BoSJo, sudo apt-get install <package>
[09:12] <furgu> BoSJo, from a terminal BTW
[09:12] <monomaniacpat> heinkel_111: I'll have a look
[09:12] <BoSJo> furgu: tried that, nothong much happends
[09:12] <furgu> BoSJo, whats the message?  Please paste
[09:12] <TheFaction> hello guys
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: try sudo dpkg -C
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: Should tell you what packages are broken
[09:12] <furgu> BoSJo, there is a way to fix dependency errors, apt-get always tells me how to do it
[09:12] <furgu> --resolve or something
[09:13] <TheFaction> hey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play
[09:13] <osh_> Is there an apt equivialent to "rpm -qv *" meaning verify all installed packages on the system.
[09:14] <robotgeek> osh_: what does verify do?
[09:14] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn : mfc8420lpr           Brother lpr Printer Definitions
[09:14] <TheFaction> hey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play
[09:14] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: says it's broken
[09:15] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: Do you have a brother printer ?
[09:15] <osh_> robotgeek: checks that the package is installed properly, checks md5 and signature of package, checks if config-files have been changed. Perhaps some more that I don't remember right now.
[09:15] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: yes, tried to install it yesterday, no luck
[09:15] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: used a .deb
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: sudo dpkg -P mfc8420lpr
[09:16] <robotgeek> osh_: apt-get check , maybe. more in man apt-get
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: You don't want to use debs that aren't made for kubuntu
[09:17] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: someone told me it would be ok, guess not :-) it tells me to install before uninstalling
[09:17] <TheFaction> hey im trying to play my mp3s off my external maxtor. its recognized yet the files wont play
[09:17] <robotgeek> !codecs
[09:17] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: sudo aptitude purge mfc8420lpr
[09:19] <phin> hello
[09:19] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: same thing, it is in very bad state, should install befor uninstalling
[09:19] <osh_> robotgeek: no apt-get check from what I can see. I'll have a look in the manpages. Just hoping that someone might know and answer quicker than a manpage.
[09:20] <BoSJo> h3sp4wn: can't i just remove the print driver from some list somewhere?
[09:20] <fiyawerx> !firefox
[09:20] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -P mfc8420lpr
[09:21] <h3sp4wn> BoSJo: The only way to fix it is thru apt
[09:22] <TheFaction> ok i found that i need a plugin to play my mp3s
[09:22] <TheFaction> and i typed in this into the terminal: sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad yet it didnt install
[09:24] <Jack1> hi where would i find sth about making grip faster? i read a wiki about dapper but cant find it again, anyone knows?
, how do you know it didn't install?  what errors/messages are you getting?
[09:24] <fiyawerx> anyone have aproblem where konquerer just seems to stop loading images on a webpage?
 i get this :E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad
[09:25] <elie> sup guyz
[09:25] <lucas> what?
[09:25] <elie> any1 tried the new ati driverz?
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> fiyawerx: nope. But I did have such a problem when I had a bad network card in a router.
[09:25] <fiyawerx> LeeJunFan: seems to work fine in firefox, strange
[09:25] <lucas> Hello, I speak french!!!
, do "sudo apt-get update" then try install again
[09:26] <fiyawerx> !source
[09:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:26] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[09:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:26] <bam_> elie, let us know how it turns out(ru using breezy or dapper?)
[09:26] <trappist> TheFaction: I think you want gstreamer0.10-mad
[09:27] <_froud_> Hi, have not installed Kubuntu in a while. Does Kubuntu install Firefox by default or use Konqueror as the default for Web Browser?
[09:27] <trappist> assuming you're using dapper
[09:27] <furgu> elie, are you using GL applications?  You might save yourself some heartache and wait awhile if you don't need it...
[09:27] <fiyawerx> anyone have any issues using source-o-matic?
 will i be able to do it on the live cd?
[09:27] <elie> dapper
[09:28] <elie> i play openGL games
[09:28] <lucas> good byee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:28] <furgu> TheFaction, no idea... you are using a live cd for this?  maybe try it... can't hurt
[09:28] <furgu> elie, what games do you play?
[09:29] <elie> ut2004 x64+wolfenstein+ss
[09:29] <furgu> sweet
[09:29] <elie> just begun with linux yesterday
[09:29] <edu_> Hi
how do i put up large pieces of text?
[09:30] <furgu> might consider a different GFX card next time you upgrade, everyone complains about ATI support elie
[09:30] <furgu> I lost the link TheFaction... what are you trying to put?
[09:30] <elie> thats y iam asking,i just saw the new ati driverz on ati site
[09:30] <Wodger> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:30] <furgu> thx Wodger
[09:30] <Jack1> hi guys amarok suddenly returns no engine can beloaded??
[09:31] <Wodger> should be in the topic that should be shown depending on your irc client
[09:31] <edu_> Does anyone knows if xgl is going to support radeon free drivers?
[09:32] <furgu> guess you could try it elie, I know the ubuntu Nvidia driver doesn't play well with the Nvidia provided driver so it might cause more problems but like I said no experience with ATI
 http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16710
[09:32] <rideout> Jack1: are you using xine?
[09:32] <h3sp4wn> edu: I think it does already - or atleast aiglx definately does
[09:32] <Jack1> rideout yes first it said it cant find xine, and would use another engine, now it says it finds nothing
[09:32] <furgu> TheFaction, you need to use sudo
[09:33] <edu_> aiglx? what's that?
[09:33] <phin> grrrr, my direct rendering no longer works under i810
[09:33] <phin> :-(
[09:33] <furgu> "sudo apt-get ....."
[09:33] <edu_> sorry, i'm a little noob heheh
 i did
[09:33] <furgu> TheFaction, or you might need to close some graphical package managers like Synaptic
[09:33] <furgu> or you may be running two apt- things at the same time
[09:34] <Jack1> furgu is there a fast ripper that doesnt lose quality because of being fast? grip is so slow...
[09:34] <furgu> Jack1, have you tried Monkey audio?>
[09:34] <Jack1> furgu ..no worth a try?
[09:34] <furgu> nevermind... its only windows
[09:34] <furgu> !lossless
[09:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about lossless
 still doesnt work
[09:35] <Jack1> furgu i used foobar2000 there
[09:35] <furgu> Maybe it doesnt work from livecd TheFaction, don't know sorry
[09:35] <JP_PIALASSE> hello
[09:35] <elie> It say: POSIX Shared Memory (/dev/shm) support is required for 3D applications,what is psox?
[09:35] <froud> Does Kubuntu install Firefox by default or must the user install it afterwards?
[09:36] <furgu> Ever tried oggflac Jack1?
[09:36] <JP_PIALASSE> you have to install it
[09:36] <furgu> elie, POSIX is a standard
[09:36] <furgu> elie, where are you seeing this?
[09:36] <Jack1> furgu i cannot use ogg (though idlike to) cause of my ipod
[09:36] <elie> on ati site---->https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.26.18.html#172686
[09:36] <Wodger> then probably mp3 realisticly
[09:37] <furgu> elie, shouldnt worry about that yet
[09:37] <fiyawerx> hmm, anyone else use cipherphunks repositories?
[09:37] <[TSK] > I've seen Monkey's Audio support for Linux.  It's not Windoze only.
[09:37] <elie> k thnx
[09:37] <furgu> elie, ubuntu supports POSIX... should be no problem
[09:37] <Gentil> bonsoir
[09:37] <Jack1> guys my amarok says it has noengine...
[09:37] <furgu> thnks [TSK]  didnt know that
[09:38] <[TSK] > I'm not sure about using it in Ubuntu, but I have used Monkey's Audio under Mandriva and it plays all my old MA files I copied over from my old Windoze install.
[09:38] <Gentil> hi
[09:38] <[TSK] > I haven't tried encoding to MA under Linux yet, but I'm sure I can find a way.
[09:38] <lyynx> Hello I customize Eterm ,with no buttonbar,but how to save this theme.please help
[09:38] <furgu> Jack1, have you thought about installing RockBox on your IPod?
[09:39] <Jack1> furgu i had even linux on it.... but i had trouble with gtkpod (with the partitions) though i uninstalled it again..probably no now..too much stress
[09:39] <elie> what is universe section?
[09:40] <JP_PIALASSE> i have a problem with amarok : it doesn't play anything , just says the playlist is ended
[09:40] <furgu> elie, some packages have different licenses so live in different places
[09:40] <edu_> hey jp_pialasse
[09:40] <edu_> i think you must install xine-extracodecs
[09:41] <Jack1> amarok says xine cannot find audio drivers therefore it cannot be loaded, loading void engine instead, but it worked all the day! and now not
[09:41] <elie> how 2 enable it?
[09:41] <JP_PIALASSE> edu> thanks i try
[09:41] <edu_> you must have the multiverse repository activated, too
[09:41] <[TSK] > JP_PIALASSE: You might want to check your engines and make sure you are using a good one.  Xine is the one I personally prefer.  Might also want to check your collection and make sure that Amarok knows where your music files are found.  May also want to make sure your music is in a format the Xine engine understands.
[09:41] <elie> how 2 enable it?
[09:42] <JP_PIALASSE> edu> it is but it doesnt find
[09:42] <edu_> wait a second
[09:42] <edu_> well, i can't use adept now, is downloading packages...
[09:43] <edu_> does you have all the repositories activatee?
[09:43] <[TSK] > I'm really finding Amarok to be by FAR the best music player/manager I've ever used.  Nothing else even remotely compares...  Even if it doesn't work quite right at first, it's worth the efforts it takes to get it all running right.
[09:43] <elie> how 2 enable universe section?
[09:43] <JP_PIALASSE> [TSK] > xine is ok, i just click on the file and it open, it is the same probleme with radio streaming,  i'va tried a lot of mp3 vbr and cbr
[09:44] <edu_> go to /etc/apt/source.list
[09:44] <fiyawerx> can i pay someone to go through and re-tag about 16000 mp3s? heh
[09:44] <edu_> with kate as root
[09:44] <Jack1> do sudo kedit /etc/fstab and remove the hashmarks at the beginning of the line elie
[09:44] <furgu> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages?action=show&redirect=UniversePackages
[09:44] <furgu> elie ^^^
[09:44] <edu_> and uncomment it at the list
[09:44] <JP_PIALASSE> edu_> it seems all, i hav e added all manually
[09:44] <Jack1> elie sorry i mean /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:44] <JP_PIALASSE> already done this morning
[09:46] <Jack1> what do i do : amarok no engine can be loaded?
[09:46] <[TSK] > fiyawerx: Heh...  I've finally just finished retagging my MP3s using Amarok.  Every single album I have is all organized and has an album cover image stored in the folder with it.  It's SO NICE to be able to find and play my music when and how I want...  8)
[09:46] <paolo_> italianiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[09:46] <[TSK] > It's WAY nice too to be able to stash all my CDs away in the closet and never have to touch them again...  8)
[09:46] <furgu> !it
[09:46] <fiyawerx> [TSK] : yeah, most of mine are in ots format, i need to unconvert them all back to mp3
[09:46] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:47] <furgu> !bs
[09:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about bs
[09:47] <fiyawerx> [TSK] : and there's literally about 16500 at last count heh
[09:47] <elie> so no 1 here has a ati vga card?
[09:47] <furgu> ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI ATI
[09:47] <elie> :)
[09:47] <furgu> HELP ZOMG MY ATI CARD IS MELTING
[09:48] <elie> what fglrx ru using?
[09:48] <furgu> who?
[09:48] <elie> u have ati ,no?
[09:48] <furgu> I have no stinking ATI
[09:48] <furgu> !ati
[09:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:48] <furgu> I have NVidia
[09:48] <elie> k
[09:48] <furgu> sry
[09:49] <furgu> !universe
[09:49] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:49] <fiyawerx> i just did the install nvidia-glx via apt-get for mine, worked like a charm
[09:49] <furgu> I know fiyawerx nvidia is easy we need an atian
[09:50] <matthew> does anyone have much experience dealing with Kvpnc?
[09:51] <edu_> JP_PIALASSE, perhaps the package name is another... search for xine and then look for something likce extra codecs
[09:51] <Jack1> hallo my amarok says: xine was unable to initialize any audio-drivers.
[09:51] <Jack1> what shall i do?
[09:52] <edu_> mhhh
[09:52] <edu_> search in google ubuntu restricted formats
[09:53] <edu_> and you'll have the howto
[09:54] <furgu> !edubuntu
[09:54] <ubotu> Edubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org
[09:54] <furgu> !xubuntu
[09:54] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[09:54] <furgu> XFCE!!!!
[09:54] <furgu> Or as I like to call it, X-Feces
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> !e-17
[09:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about e-17
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> !e17
[09:55] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[09:55] <fiyawerx> oh that reminds me, i want to try xfce
[09:56] <fiyawerx> if you install the xubuntu-desktop from kubuntu, you can run apps like konversation in xfce right?
[09:57] <fiyawerx> altho that makes me feel dirty
[09:57] <furgu> XFCE is great, runs really great over FreeNX
[09:57] <furgu> fiyawerx, I think you can just install the xfce package
[09:57] <fiyawerx> furgu: not using freenx anymore, but using nomachins server /client, even kde is running fine over it for me mostly
[09:57] <fiyawerx> furgu: cept some animations and whatnot
[09:58] <furgu> freenx + kde = crazy slow for me
[09:58] <fiyawerx> im connecting to a cable connection, i set the slider down to isdn
[09:58] <fiyawerx> and everything runs fine
[09:58] <furgu> fiyawerx, does the nomachines server cost monies?
[09:58] <fiyawerx> no, the new version is free for 2 simultaneous connections i believe
[09:59] <furgu> what are the advantages to using it?
[09:59] <edu> system:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running
[09:59] <fiyawerx> and installs extremely easy
[09:59] <edu> system:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running... HELP!
[09:59] <fiyawerx> well, i tried for 2 days to get freenx running with no success, then saw that they release a new server/clients versions i think, tried that and it installed in about 30 seconds up and running
[09:59] <fiyawerx> i've never successfully used freenx so can't really say
[09:59] <furgu> oh, yes the freenx can be a pain to install
[09:59] <furgu> but I already got it working so no big deal
[10:00] <fiyawerx> yeah, i love it tho, in general
[10:00] <JP_PIALASSE> edu> i can see it on the repo but it dont find it
[10:00] <fiyawerx> i might just keep kde for running at home and use xfce for connecting from work maybe
[10:00] <fiyawerx> will see how much faster it is for me
[10:00] <fiyawerx> i mean the apps menu and whatnot on kde is almost realtime
[10:01] <furgu> I think KDE uses some screen transitions which makes it slow
[10:01] <kronoz> how does the kubuntu bootsplash work? bootsplash.org kernel patch or using something like splashy?
[10:01] <fiyawerx> if i drag a window around i notice some lag, but other than that nothing
[10:01] <edu> please, help: system:/media  --> ERROR KDE device manager is not running
[10:01] <furgu> if it werent for those it would be better
[10:01] <furgu> edu, PANIX
[10:01] <kosh> I just use ssh for remote access no speed problems with that
[10:01] <elie_> which is better,gnom or k?
[10:01] <fiyawerx> yeah, like the panel bubbles that pop up when you mouseover things were slow, i disabled those
[10:01] <furgu> thanks kosh, what wonderful advice... so insightful
[10:01] <fiyawerx> i even had e17 working over it, but it was glitchy
[10:02] <kosh> ssh -X username@server and you can run whatever you want
[10:02] <kronoz> elie_: your in a kde distro channel, what do you think....
[10:02] <kosh> I have been doing that for about 10 years
[10:02] <furgu> kosh, REALLY??? OMG WOW
[10:02] <elie_> lol
[10:02] <furgu> kosh, you forgot -C flag
[10:02] <furgu> your slow kosh, you are slowwww
[10:02] <kronoz> elie_: kde becuase qt is much better than gtk
[10:03] <elie_> what is qt?
[10:03] <furgu> QTips
[10:03] <furgu> !qt
[10:03] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[10:03] <furgu> !gtk
[10:03] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[10:03] <elie_> i am using dapper 6.06 is it gnom or kde?
[10:04] <furgu> erm... yeah
[10:04] <gupta> elie: Is it blue or brown?
[10:04] <furgu> heh right on gupta... good call
[10:04] <elie_> brown
[10:05] <gupta> gnome
[10:05] <furgu> ewwww.... elie_ is the brown
[10:05] <elie_> lolk
[10:05] <fiyawerx> lol
[10:05] <gupta> i.e ubuntu
[10:05] <furgu> wrong channel elie_, get the hell out...
[10:06] <furgu> if you have a GNOME question ask #ubuntu tho elie_
[10:06] <kosh> furgu: I have compression in my ssh config
[10:06] <fiyawerx> i think you need to register to talk in #ubuntu, don't you?
[10:06] <furgu> good job kosh, good job
[10:06] <furgu> dont think so... only register to send private message
[10:06] <furgu> #ubuntu is krazy packed tho
[10:06] <furgu> !ubuntu
[10:06] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:06] <fiyawerx> kosh: does that end up running as fast as nomachines client?
[10:07] <furgu> !#ubuntu
[10:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:07] <MAW_away> anybody installed the new basket?
[10:07] <furgu> fiyawerx, YES
[10:07] <fiyawerx> i thought the whole thing about !m was that its faster
[10:07] <furgu> fiyawerx, if you dont need the WM just use ssh -C -X
[10:07] <fiyawerx> oh, i like having my desktop :)
[10:07] <fiyawerx> and im going from windows too
[10:07] <furgu> use Cygwin then
[10:07] <furgu> it has problems tho
[10:07] <fiyawerx> for what?
[10:08] <furgu> for desktopless X
[10:08] <fiyawerx> oh, i don't know why I'd want desktopless X
[10:08] <furgu> tunnel ssh compression shitnitz
[10:08] <fiyawerx> i like my desktop
[10:08] <fiyawerx> otherwise i just use SecureCRT to ssh in when i need a console
[10:08] <furgu> NX clients use Cygwin... I hate NX screws up emacs tho
[10:08] <fiyawerx> I'm using nxclient for windows
[10:08] <kosh> you can use the wm even remotely if you want
[10:09] <furgu> CYGWIN I sed use cygwin
[10:09] <kosh> I used to use launch it from other unix systems and just have it start x with just a terminal window and then just run startkde
[10:09] <fiyawerx> eh, im lost, but this works
[10:09] <kosh> fiyawerx: I never had any slowdowns
[10:09] <kosh> fiyawerx: however I have always used it on high speed networks
[10:10] <fiyawerx> yeah, im limited by my cable at home upload rate
[10:10] <fiyawerx> which is like 50KBps
[10:10] <furgu> FreeNX is for slower connections kosh, they use trickery
[10:10] <furgu> some call it magic
[10:10] <furgu> I say its the devil's work personally
[10:10] <fiyawerx> yeah, i figured since NX was made for dialup and whatnot it'd work fine over cable
[10:11] <fiyawerx> and it has so far
[10:11] <fiyawerx> as for my connection here, Download Speed: 22153 kbps (2769.1 KB/sec transfer rate) Upload Speed: 2903 kbps (362.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
[10:11] <fiyawerx> i just wish i had that at home, too
[10:11] <ozmodiar> Hi. It Seems I can't get Konqueror understand that I've selected double-clicking mode in settings for the mouse. And I can't find any settings for that in Konqueror either. Sorry for my english.
[10:13] <furgu> kosh, freenx also does sound I think
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> Anyone here using ymessenger ?
[10:13] <cox377> no
[10:13] <cox377> is it any good?
[10:13] <furgu> not me
[10:13] <furgu> what is it?
[10:13] <furgu> !ymessenger
[10:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about ymessenger
[10:13] <furgu> !info ymessenger
[10:13] <ubotu> Package ymessenger does not exist in dapper
[10:13] <furgu> LIES
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> I have package problem..
[10:13] <furgu> Package ymessenger does not exist in dapper
[10:14] <cox377> i dont suppose anyone can help, but i copied the times new roman fonts from a windows box and installed them into the system and the personal drive yet when i try and change in firefox they dont appear to be there
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> i have it..
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> lolz
[10:14] <kronoz> do you mean yahoo messenger...
[10:14] <JP_PIALASSE> what is the command to install .deb  ?
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> yes..
[10:15] <kronoz> JP_PIALASSE: `su` then `dpkg -i nameofdeb.deb`
[10:15] <JP_PIALASSE> (i use to work with red hat :) )
[10:15] <JP_PIALASSE> tnaks
[10:15] <kronoz> JP_PIALASSE: or right click on the file > install kubuntu package (something like then)
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> it says..
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> ymessenger: Depends: libgdk-pixbuf2 (>= 0.13.0) but it is not going to be installed
[10:15] <|lostbyte|>               Depends: libssl0.9.6 but it is not installable
[10:15] <|lostbyte|>               Depends: xlibs (> 3.3.6) but it is not installable
[10:15] <furgu> install msttcorefonts,  cox377
[10:15] <cox377> does anyone here know a command to update open office?
[10:15] <cox377> furgu: cheers i shall
[10:16] <furgu> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:16] <GullyFoyle> click on "My .Debs" lmao
[10:16] <sensei> Why is a lot of packages greyed out in Adept Installer? Like Evolution and libxine-extracodecs ?
[10:16] <furgu> if there is an update, updates everything cox377
[10:16] <furgu> cox377, are you using 6.06?
[10:17] <cox377> "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade" furgu?
[10:17] <fiyawerx> furgu: yeah, nx does multimedia
[10:17] <cox377> i am yeh
[10:17] <furgu> that will update everything
[10:17] <furgu> good to do that periodically
[10:17] <sensei> And all my sources when I do apt-get update returns Ign or "Could not connect", even though I can connect to them and fetch the Packages.gz manually via wget :O
[10:17] <ozmodiar> Didn't anyone have the solution to my question ^^ (yes i have tried too google). I've would really appreciate it.
[10:18] <furgu> 6.06 has OO2 which is good, unless you know you need a specific version keep to the 6.06 packages
[10:18] <furgu> ozmodiar, your question is lost, ask again
[10:18] <bigBob>  hello
[10:18] <furgu> oh nevermind
[10:18] <ozmodiar> Okay.
[10:18] <ozmodiar> It Seems I can't get Konqueror understand that I've selected double-clicking mode in settings for the mouse. And I can't find any settings for that in Konqueror either. Sorry for my english.
[10:18] <furgu> ozmodiar, double klick what exactly?
[10:19] <ozmodiar> On folders..
[10:19] <JP_PIALASSE> http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/x/xine-extracodecs/libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_i386.deb was the solution !
[10:19] <furgu> right-o... 1 sec
[10:19] <JP_PIALASSE> i don't understand why the apt get don't find it
[10:19] <GullyFoyle> hey that was my first time using /lastlog in irssi, to see what ozmodiar's q was... kewl
[10:20] <furgu> !lastlog
[10:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about lastlog
[10:20] <furgu> !/lastlog
[10:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about /lastlog
[10:20] <furgu> nice
[10:20] <GullyFoyle> can you set double-click application specific? or is it kde-wide, so to speak?
[10:21] <sotired> grrr. Anyone here ever have problems streaming music from a windows share using amarok?
[10:21] <heinkel_111> how does a notebook with AMD Turion 64 and ATI RAdeon Xpreess 200 work under kubuntu?
[10:21] <furgu> ozmodiar, you tried System Settings -> Mouse?
[10:21] <heinkel_111> are there drivers for the ATI Radeon Xpress 200?
[10:21] <cox377> furgu: ahh all i wanted to do was to update to 2.0.2
[10:21] <ozmodiar> GullyFoyle: uhm, I guess its KDE, but i'm not sure...
[10:22] <ozmodiar> I'm new too linux.
[10:22] <furgu> cox377, 2.02 is the version in repos, just do the commands I told you if its not 2.02 already
[10:22] <GullyFoyle> furgu: i'm using a console client, irssi, for IRC, and /lastlog <string> gives all the msg's with <string> in them
, Is your screen Brown or Blue?
[10:23] <Jack1> furgu i get mad amarok cannot start the xine engine!!!
[10:23] <cox377> cheers
[10:23] <furgu> yah I figured it out, GullyFoyle thanks
[10:23] <ozmodiar> Hehe, yes i'm running KDE if that was your question. :)
[10:23] <sotired> grrr. Anyone here ever have problems streaming music from a windows share using amarok?
[10:23] <furgu> yes ozmodiar, click on the start menu, go to System Settings
[10:23] <furgu> in Systems Settings click on Mouse
[10:24] <furgu> the click the box that says Double-Click to open files and folders
[10:24] <ozmodiar> Yes, but i've have already done that...
[10:24] <ozmodiar> And it's not working...
[10:24] <furgu> and no luck?
[10:24] <ozmodiar> Nop
[10:24] <cox377> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:24] <cox377> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:24] <furgu> sorry worked for me dunno
[10:24] <cox377> fo u know what that means furgu?
[10:25] <sotired> :(
[10:25] <furgu> cox377, is another process using the lock?  Are you running a graphical program like KPackage or Synaptic or Adept?
[10:25] <cox377> there isnt any other adept running
[10:25] <furgu> cox377, did you use sudo?
[10:25] <cox377> nah nothings open
[10:25] <cox377> yeh did sudp
[10:25] <cox377> sudo
[10:25] <furgu> dunno...
[10:25] <noaXess> hi back
[10:25] <furgu> yur fuct
[10:25] <cox377> lol
[10:25] <cox377> :s
[10:25] <cox377> let me restart kde
[10:25] <furgu> cox377, there must be something else that locked it
[10:26] <furgu> pht
[10:26] <cox377> back
[10:26] <furgu> Hey!
[10:27] <furgu> mate
[10:27] <cox377> this is werid
[10:27] <furgu> are you from england or australia?
[10:27] <cox377> when i do sudo its not asking me for my password
[10:27] <cox377> me/
[10:27] <cox377> ?
[10:27] <sotired> im trying to stream music from another machien in my house, i can access the share, view the files, copy them, delete them, but if i try to play them in kaffeine or amarok they crash. Any ideas?
[10:27] <furgu> yes
[10:27] <furgu> sudo does that
[10:27] <cox377> England man
[10:27] <furgu> its cool like that
[10:27] <cox377> normally i just do sudo -i
[10:27] <furgu> aight cool... just across the pond eh
[10:27] <cox377> haha
[10:27] <cox377> US>?
[10:27] <furgu> yah
[10:28] <cox377> how come u narrowed it down to UK Aus?
[10:28] <furgu> its the cheers thing
[10:28] <cox377> haha
[10:28] <furgu> any luck now?
[10:29] <qalimas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16714 -- fresh install of dapper, can anyone help?
[10:29] <Kadran> hi, does any one know how to convert a *.sunos5 or *.ux11 to *.deb?
[10:29] <cox377> yeh went through it
[10:29] <cox377> but it didnt update open office which is strange
[10:30] <furgu> what version do you have now/
[10:30] <furgu> ?
[10:30] <Philip5> qalimas: wrong pathnames
[10:31] <cox377> 2.0
[10:31] <qalimas> Philip5: can you help me fix them?
[10:31] <kronoz> Kadran: i don't think it would work, if the .sunos5 or ux11 was not compiled under a linux kernel
[10:31] <fiyawerx> anyone know offhand what the startup command for xfce is
[10:32] <furgu> how can you tell, did you go to Help -> About?
[10:32] <cox377> lol
[10:33] <sotired> i prayed to jesus for the answer, but i havent heard back...so maybe u ppl could help me....
[10:33] <method|> i have a hard drive with a fat 32 partition. Kubuntu is miscalculating this drives free space. Anyone know why?
[10:33] <Kadran> kronoz: i need to try microsoft internet explorer for linux and the only pakages i have are for solaries or hp-ux and no source code
[10:33] <cox377> i was being fooled by the start up screen
[10:33] <cox377> ;)
[10:33] <method|> it says that it has like 3 gigs of free space when it actually has 20
[10:33] <furgu> thought so :-)
[10:33] <furgu> cheers mate
[10:33] <Philip5> qalimas: add so the urls look like this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[10:33] <cox377> lol
[10:34] <kronoz> Kadran: i didn't think they has ever made ie for linux '_' i don't know sorry, try alien maybe
[10:34] <cox377> where yah from then??
[10:34] <furgu> I am a Masshole
[10:34] <noaXess> if i want diasable a cronjob in root's crontab.. i only need to put a # in front of the line, right?
[10:34] <cox377> masshole?
[10:34] <furgu> Massachusets
[10:34] <furgu> bean town
[10:34] <apokryphos> noaXess: yes
[10:34] <qalimas> Philip5: They do look like that
[10:34] <cox377> kadran any chance u can get the IE tab extention for firefox working?
[10:34] <cox377> cool
[10:34] <noaXess> apokryphos, you.. thanks.. :)
[10:34] <qalimas> or all of them?
[10:34] <Philip5> qalimas: no you don't have /ubuntu
[10:35] <sotired> im trying to stream music from another machien in my house, i can access the share, view the files, copy them, delete them, but if i try to play them in kaffeine or amarok they crash. Any ideas?
[10:35] <qalimas> yeah, in my sources.list it does
[10:35] <Kadran> kronoz: i need any web browser that can view trident layout engine and firefox use gecko so it will not work
[10:35] <qalimas> unless it needs two ubuntu/
[10:35] <heinkel_111> sotired...get any errormessages while crashing?
[10:35] <cox377> I.E tab function for FF?
[10:35] <Kadran> cox377: i will try now
[10:36] <heinkel_111> sotired: did you start from konsole?
[10:36] <furgu> /usr/share/doc/xfce4/README.Debian @ <fiyawerx>
[10:36] <sotired> no
 they made IE for linux
[10:37] <sotired> i clciked the .mp3 and selected open with amarok
[10:37] <heinkel_111> :(
[10:37] <fiyawerx> furgu: found it, it was startxfce4
[10:37] <qalimas> Philip5: this is a fresh ubuntu install, thats why itsgot me so confused
[10:37] <furgu> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/index-en.html
[10:37] <furgu> IE4Linux ^^^^
[10:37] <qalimas> during install, it even told me it couldnt contact the security reps so it commented them out
[10:37] <heinkel_111> sotired: try starting amaroK from konsole
[10:37] <sotired> just type amarok?
[10:38] <heinkel_111> uhm yea or something like that
[10:38] <heinkel_111> which amarok
[10:38] <heinkel_111> or
[10:38] <heinkel_111> which amaroK
[10:38] <furgu> No IE tabs in FF tho
[10:38] <furgu> just straight IE
[10:38] <heinkel_111> i guess should give you the path to the executable
[10:38] <heinkel_111> if amarok or amaroK does not work straight away
[10:38] <cox377> whats that furgu?
[10:38] <furgu> IE4Linux
[10:39] <Philip5> qalimas: then it's a bit strange
[10:39] <sotired> whatever one came witht he latest release
[10:39] <cox377> i just installed the IE Tab on my firefox
[10:39] <furgu> where?  FF extension?
[10:40] <D4m4ge> hi
[10:40] <gupta> I love kubuntu!!  http://h1.ripway.com/chesss/kubuntu-irc.png
[10:40] <cox377> yeh
[10:40] <gupta> My first extremely-useful script :)
[10:41] <D4m4ge> I have a problem with Kmplayer
[10:41] <D4m4ge> it does not play any type of media
[10:41] <furgu> IE Tab is not available for Linux.
[10:41] <furgu> LIARS!!!!!!!!!
[10:41] <furgu> j/k
[10:41] <D4m4ge> kaffeine does, and i have all necessary codecs installed
[10:41] <qalimas> Philip5: Yeah, you're telling me
[10:42] <sotired> still effing crashes
[10:42] <qalimas> i notice it only on this machine though, any other it works fine, i can reinstall ubuntu, kubuntu, the ubuntu server, xubuntu, they all do it all the time on this computer
[10:42] <cox377> yeh, but if you go other versions, clicked on the latest then it installed
[10:42] <cox377> wheather it works or not is another mater, i'm truing to find a site that doesnt work in firefox yet
[10:43] <qalimas> its a 32bit install on a 64bit processor, could that be it?
[10:43] <fiyawerx> wow, xfce does run fast
[10:43] <fiyawerx> i wish they kept all their icons in their menus separate sometimes tho hehe, now i have a boatload
[10:43] <sotired> this is driving me  nuts
[10:43] <furgu> I see me in a PNG!  Thx gupta
[10:43] <cox377> what u saying furgu? does it check out?
[10:44] <qalimas> nevermind, i cant take this, ive tried to get help with this for so long, weeks, and it never works out
[10:44] <furgu> cox377, no IE Tab in linux, Windowz only
[10:44] <qalimas> i like ubuntu and all, but i just have to go back to arch
[10:44] <qalimas> thanks anyway Philip5 =)
[10:44] <cox377> can someone give me a site that doesnt work in FF?
[10:44] <sotired> i cant think of any
[10:44] <sotired> goat.cx .....
[10:44] <sotired> jk
[10:45] <D4m4ge> does anyone use kmplayer? even in konqueror to play medias?
[10:45] <furgu> cox377, any site that uses ActiveX?
[10:45] <gupta> cox377: Try browsing on msn.com , something gotta be broken
[10:45] <cox377> am i not wrong in saying that active X is installable pluggin for FF?
[10:46] <furgu> for linux?
[10:46] <gupta> noway
[10:46] <cox377> maybe not
[10:47] <cox377> everything seems to work on the msn site
[10:47] <cox377> :s
[10:47] <D4m4ge> am I transparent or what? oO
[10:47] <cox377> i have d4m4age
[10:47] <D4m4ge> cox377 you have? kmplayer?
[10:47] <daschu> when i go to Adept Updater, it tells me that I can't upgrade kdm (X Display manager for KDE) because it is broken... i cannot remove it or anything... any help?
[10:47] <cox377> mplayer?
[10:48] <D4m4ge> no, Kmplayer
[10:48] <cox377> nope
[10:48] <D4m4ge> i cant understand why it does not work
[10:48] <D4m4ge> i reinstalled it so many times
[10:48] <D4m4ge> i have all plugins and codecs to play all type of files
[10:48] <martin_> hi guys, bit of a problem here, i've just installed XGL and ever since the Display module in system settings refuses to load, any ideas?
[10:48] <D4m4ge> but it just does not start playing
[10:48] <gupta> I can't see any man pages. Though they are certainly there on my pc
[10:48] <furgu> D4m4ge, what is the issue you are experiencing?
[10:48] <furgu> what is the behavior?
[10:49] <furgu> D4m4ge, error mesgs?
[10:49] <D4m4ge> furgu when i try to open a file, or play a media in konqueror, this is what happens :
[10:49] <D4m4ge> http://www.image-dream.com/image.php?image=784625baac148e392512344014f96167.png&pseudo=anonym
[10:49] <gupta> Error: no man pages found for tar. see man 7 undocumented for help
[10:50] <|lostbyte|> gupta, man tar 7
[10:50] <gupta> same error :(
[10:51] <furgu> D4m4ge, you have Xine installed?
[10:51] <D4m4ge> furgu yeah
[10:51] <gupta> nope now it adds "what manual pages do you want from section 7"
[10:51] <D4m4ge> here is what happens in the console when i try to play afile : http://pastebin.ca/74256
[10:52] <|lostbyte|> gupta, sudo apt-get install manpages
[10:52] <D4m4ge> xine works great in kaffeine
[10:52] <gupta> |lostbyte|: k , trying..
[10:52] <kub> can't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"
[10:52] <D4m4ge> but i would like to be able to launch video files with konqueror's Kmplayer plugin
[10:52] <D4m4ge> and it does not work :/
[10:53] <sotired> will amaroK only play local files?
[10:53] <kub> can't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"
[10:53] <insanekane> ubotu: tell D4m4ge about RestrictedFormats
[10:53] <KuLover> !ati
[10:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <gupta> |lostbyte|: manpages already instatlled
[10:53] <insanekane> ubotu: tell D4m4ge about Restricted Formats
[10:54] <D4m4ge> kmplayer: playingStopped 0x81236d8
[10:54] <insanekane> !tell D4m4ge about Restricted Formats
[10:54] <insanekane> !RestrictedFormats
[10:54] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:54] <furgu> Have you tried AVI, D4m4ge?
[10:54] <gupta> also This file exists: /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz
[10:54] <D4m4ge> avi works in kaffeine, but not in kmplayer
[10:54] <insanekane> gupta: man tar doesnt work ?
[10:54] <D4m4ge> xvidf, mpeg4...etc
[10:54] <D4m4ge> -f
[10:54] <gupta> nope
[10:54] <insanekane> wierd
[10:55] <D4m4ge> indeed :)
[10:55] <insanekane> gupta: does man:/ work in konqueror ?
[10:55] <|lostbyte|> furgu, man pages are in /usr/share/man/man1/ for tar
[10:55] <kub> can't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"
[10:55] <sotired> will amaroK only play local files?
[10:55] <gupta> |lostbyte|: I removed konquereor
[10:55] <cox377> furgu, maybe you can help me with one last thing, when ever i hit any of the arrow keys or the nine keys which inc del, end, etc kubuntu tries to take a damn screen shot, can you or anyone else help me to turn screen shot off. I have uninstalled it but now it just opens the screen shot folder instead
[10:55] <|lostbyte|> gupta, WHAT !
[10:55] <gupta> aptitude purge krusader
[10:56] <gupta> aptitude install krusader
[10:56] <insanekane> kub: try KsCD
[10:56] <gupta> I mean pirge konqueror
[10:56] <furgu> cox377, is there an icon for screen shot in the menu bar?
[10:56] <D4m4ge> I tried so man y times to --reinstall kmplayer and my codec packages
[10:56] <D4m4ge> many*
[10:56] <D4m4ge> but it did not help
[10:56] <insanekane> D4m4ge: haha ... i'm in the very same position as you
[10:56] <furgu> cox377, far right maybe
[10:56] <sotired> will amaroK only play local files?
[10:56] <insanekane> D4m4ge: did the file work in an older version of kubuntu dapper ?
[10:57] <D4m4ge> insanekane do you get the same error :  kmplayer: playingStopped 0x81236d8
[10:57] <D4m4ge> ?
[10:57] <cox377> furgu, nothing mate
[10:57] <furgu> D4m4ge, try completely removing with Synaptic, that fixed my koffice problem
[10:57] <D4m4ge> insanekane i had to reinstall a few days ago caus i changed my hard drive
[10:57] <D4m4ge> but it worked before
[10:57] <insanekane> D4m4ge: that "error" is normal ... the problem i believe is that the codecs are not being used properly
[10:57] <kub> insanekane: I can't try KsCD 'cause the audio CD is unmounted
[10:57] <D4m4ge> furgu i did
[10:57] <furgu> avi is a resitricted format?
[10:58] <D4m4ge> ok insanekane
[10:58] <insanekane> furgu: avi is a container format ... it may contain a restricted format
[10:58] <|lostbyte|> gupta, have you tar install ?
[10:58] <cox377> "locate:ksnapshot" furgu, thats the folder it opens
[10:58] <furgu> cox377, maybe restart x-server (ctrl-alt-backspace) - make sure everything is saved first
[10:58] <sotired> will amaroK only play local files?
[10:58] <insanekane> cox377: i think, you want to check khotkeys
[10:58] <|lostbyte|> sotired, nope ! t lays stream also.
[10:58] <gupta> |lostbyte|: I can't access any man pages
[10:59] <kub> insanekane: the CD-rom should be mounted first
[10:59] <cox377> yeh, this is a general day to day thing furgu
[10:59] <sotired> mine crashes evertime i try to stream
[10:59] <cox377> what do you mean insanekane?
[10:59] <furgu> check hotkeys
[10:59] <furgu> dunno
[10:59] <furgu> sorry
[10:59] <cox377> what does that mean check hotkeys?
, where be the hot key?
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> gupta, in konqueror ?
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> opps sorry..
[11:00] <|lostbyte|> gupta, look in /usr/share/man/man1/
[11:00] <insanekane> cox377: k->system settings->regional and accessibility-><look at all the keyboards stuff>
[11:01] <gupta> |lostbyte|: That folder is well populated with *.gz files
[11:01] <kub> can't mount AUDIO CDs -> "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc"
[11:01] <cox377> cheers insanekane
[11:02] <[Nirvana] > kub: something wrong with /etc/fstab
[11:02] <[Nirvana] > ?
[11:02] <fiyawerx> furgu: wree you the one that said your using xfce over nx?
[11:02] <furgu> yah fiyawerx
[11:02] <insanekane> gupta: k->system settings->regional and accessibility->input actions ... look at the tree in the middle ... you will see "ksnapshot" ... click it, and then select disable on the right
, let me guess, wrong window size?
[11:02] <fiyawerx> oh, no its working fine
[11:02] <kub> [Nirvana] : /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[11:02] <furgu> ah ok
[11:02] <sotired> i guess im never going to get this one solved...
[11:03] <insanekane> sotired: try try try try again
[11:03] <fiyawerx> but the #xubuntu channel is quiet, was just wondering if there was really a reason to use it instead of kde on a decent specced system
[11:03] <zorglu1> kub: iso9660 is for data cd, not audio cd
[11:03] <fiyawerx> do you still use K apps?
[11:03] <fiyawerx> like k3b/konversation?
[11:03] <sotired> i have been
[11:03] <zorglu1> kub: i didnt follow the whole thing, just doing a remark :)
[11:03] <kub> zorglu1: sure, but udf is present too
[11:03] <furgu> fiyawerx, as long as QT and GTK are installed you should be able to run about any KDE/Gnome app
[11:04] <insanekane> i dont think you have to 'mount' an audio cd to play ...
[11:04] <kub> insanekane: really?
[11:04] <fiyawerx> furgu: nod, just wondering what ones you use really
[11:04] <fiyawerx> furgu: as im pretty new to all of it, im still open for suggestions :)
[11:04] <fiyawerx> furgu: im not set on one specific app like konversaiton for irc, etc..
[11:04] <|lostbyte|> gupta, man /usr/share/man/man1/tar.1.gz
[11:04] <furgu> I just use fxce over freenx because it is snapier
[11:05] <fiyawerx> but like people were saying k3b is one of the best burners?
[11:05] <kub> insanekane: I can't choose any CD device from KsCD...
[11:05] <furgu> use XChat for IRC tho
[11:05] <fiyawerx> amarok for players, etc..
[11:05] <wilsone> heh
[11:05] <insanekane> kub: yeah .. i am playing an audio cd right now ... and it isnt mounted
[11:05] <gupta> |lostbyte|: That works!!, Thanks a lot
[11:06] <bobesponja> hey all
[11:06] <fiyawerx> i dislike the whole multiple installs too, so for instance if im going to like xfce, i'll reinstall my system with xubuntu instead of kubuntu as a base
[11:06] <|lostbyte|> gupta, some thing wrong with the config file i guess..
[11:06] <bobesponja> is it possible to mount the kubuntu iso and istall it from there=?
[11:06] <|lostbyte|> gupta, /etc/manpath.config
[11:06] <fiyawerx> for no other reason than im ocd about knowign there's stuff on there im not using, heh
[11:06] <kub> insanekane: I don't know what to do, then
, dont use k3b or amorok, I am not a cool kid, KDE and XFCE can live side by side they wont fight... its not multiple installs of anything, just choice of WM no worries mate
[11:06] <gupta> |lostbyte|: ok, I'll check it out, though I don't remmeber modifying it. THanks again
[11:07] <furgu> I install all WMs, what you think of that huh, wanna mess with me now?>
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> k
[11:07] <fiyawerx> furgu: that and i'll need to clean out my menus, because xfce-desktop put like ALL the kde apps all over the place in its menus
[11:07] <kub> insanekane: I am not happy with the idea of reinstalling the whole system  :(
[11:07] <furgu> thats why they call it X-Feces yo
[11:08] <insanekane> kub: i dont think you have to really
[11:08] <furgu> insanekane, doesnt it 'automount'?
[11:08] <insanekane> it may be some other problem
[11:08] <insanekane> furgu: i dont think so
[11:08] <furgu> it has to mount to access the filesystem
[11:08] <insanekane> kub: when you insert the audio cd ... do you get a dialog asking what you want to do with it ?
[11:09] <furgu> maybe not manually
[11:09] <kub> insanekane: that dialog appeared once yesterday... but never again
[11:09] <insanekane> kub: well, try it again ..
[11:10] <insanekane> kub: eject the CDROM and put it in aghain
[11:10] <kub> insanekane: done, but nothing happens
[11:11] <furgu> !eject
[11:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about eject
[11:11] <furgu> !help
[11:11] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:11] <furgu> !tell me about help
[11:11] <SkrotFFS> Any idea when dapper will get a newer kernel (i need uevent)?
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> Never
[11:12] <SkrotFFS> Really?
[11:12] <furgu> SkrotFFS, probably best to compile your own kernel if you need some newer feature
[11:12] <furgu> SkrotFFS, you may be waiting awhile
[11:12] <insanekane> kub: did you diable the dialog ?
[11:12] <h3sp4wn> SkrotFFS: Until edgy probably
[11:12] <SkrotFFS> I see :)
[11:12] <furgu> SkrotFFS, there are some how-tos on the ubuntu forums, pretty easy actually
[11:13] <kub> insanekane: I am not getting any dialog asking what I wanna do with the CD... I didn't disable that option
[11:13] <SkrotFFS> I know how to do my own kernel. It's just that the ubuntu-kernel works perfectly (except lacking of uevent)
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> Is uevent in 2.6.16 or 2.6.17 ?
[11:13] <insanekane> kub: k->System settings->Storage Media ... then select "Audio CD" in the combo box ... and then in the list box, see if any of the actions has a "(Auto Action)" after its name
[11:13] <SkrotFFS> 2.6.16
[11:13] <furgu> SkrotFFS, you may know how to compile on other systems but Ubuntu is special you may need to do it specially for ubuntu
[11:13] <SkrotFFS> And upwards I'd guess
[11:14] <furgu> SkrotFFS, I tried to compile the standard way and got foobared
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> 2.6.16 is pretty easy but 2.6.17 needs a newer udev to work properly
[11:14] <SkrotFFS> furgu: Okay, let me rephrase: I've compiled my own kernel for kubuntu before :)
[11:14] <furgu> ok yay
[11:14] <SkrotFFS> I needed some special stuff for my laptop (acpi+apic stuff)
[11:14] <SkrotFFS> But now it works great with the default ubuntukernel
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> I am using http://debian.tu-bs.de/project/kanotix/kernel/kernel-kanotix-current.zip (The source deb with the edgy udev)
[11:15] <kub> insanekane: any action in the list has a Auto Action
[11:15] <keyne> I got a little question about kde: when i select an url with the mouse, i would like to have a menu or smth to open it with konqueror
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> SkrotFFS: The source deb is inside that zip (Has alot of performance related kernel patches and seems pretty stable - not crashed for me)
[11:16] <insanekane> kub: hunh ?
[11:16] <keyne> anyone knows how to do that ?
[11:16] <SkrotFFS> h3sp4wn: neat. I'll check it out later
[11:17] <kub> insanekane: sorry, there is not Auto Action selected
[11:18] <cox377> insanekane: your a f**King legend mate.. do u know how sodding irratating it's been without being able to use those keys
[11:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> can someone help me install wine on x64 kubuntu?>
[11:18] <kub> insanekane: my system doesn't "detect" the audio CD when I put it in, that's why I am not seeing any dialog asking me what to do
[11:18] <altprsona> hi , im on breezy kubuntu, trying to either upgrade my kopete to the newest vers or install the yahoo messenger, both are driving me nuts.
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, try ! #winehq
[11:19] <altprsona> on kopete i have cascading dependency problems, and for the yahoo  messenger i have 1 dependency issue
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> altprsona, :( ymessenger has dependency problem..
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> altprsona, allthough there is a way.. but does'nt work for me..
[11:20] <insanekane> kub: exactly
[11:20] <insanekane> cox377: i can imagine
[11:20] <cox377> lol
[11:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> |lostbyte|: i tried , nothing but assholes in that channel
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Probably people who could help you though if you phrased your questions correctly
[11:23] <thomas_> how can i change the symbolic link from gcc from 4.0 to 3.4 ?
[11:23] <thomas_> someone knows this ?
[11:24] <fiyawerx> if you install something like xubuntu-desktop and all the packages it installs, can you uninstall them all just as easy? like apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop?
[11:24] <|lostbyte|> thomas_, ls -l  /usr/bin/gcc
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: Don't bother - just use export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:24] <kub> insanekane: is it possible to install Kubuntu from a image stored in a server?
[11:24] <thomas_> ok thank i will try it
[11:25] <kub> is it possible to install Kubuntu from a image stored in a server?
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: The rest of your system is built with gcc 4 (mostly or all I don't know) you don't want to change it permanently I don't think
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> kub: Yes
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> kub, i think its done throught ssh.
[11:26] <thomas_> ok thats the reason i couldnt remove the gcc 4.0 package :-) good to know
[11:26] <ChefWill> kub:
[11:26] <ChefWill> !netboot
[11:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[11:26] <kub> how?
[11:26] <ChefWill> ^^^
[11:26] <Ertain> My screensaver doesn't seem to work.  It's configured to go off after five minutes of being idle.  I'm using a regular screensaver; it doesn't require OpenGL stuff.  I think it's because I have a program running or processing.  Any clues?
[11:26] <ChefWill> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[11:26] <gaz> hello people
[11:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i need a nice image, with tux and kubuntu logo, anybody have an idea?
[11:27] <Ertain> !wacom
[11:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about wacom
[11:27] <gaz> anyone know a gimp alternative, cso i'm used to working in photoshop and gimp just doesnt do it for me
[11:27] <kub> booting from the CD? and then?
[11:27] <zorglu1> gaz: you may try krita... it is simpler than gimp
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> making the partitions with fdisk and then using dd
[11:27] <kdefreak> :) its fixed
[11:27] <ChefWill> krita stinks :P dont even bother
[11:27] <thomas_> how can i see what version is used when gcc is entered
[11:28] <ChefWill> gcc --version
[11:28] <thomas_> yeah
[11:28] <thomas_> but
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: ./configure respects the CC and CXX environment variables
[11:28] <thomas_> ok
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: Unless you are using something with gcc hardcoded into the Makefile you would never need to change the symlink (I would just change the Makefile)
[11:29] <Ertain> !screensaver
[11:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about screensaver
[11:30] <ChefWill> Linux bluebook 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:30] <thomas_> ok i have to search for the makefile because this is generated automatic from the install program
[11:31] <kub> I wanna reinstall Kubuntu but I want to keep all my data, is it possible? and how?
[11:31] <kub> from a server, if possible
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: If you just do export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 && CXX=/usr/bin/g++-3.4 (then run ./configure again it should be fine)
[11:31] <gatekeeper> kub: use tar
[11:32] <zorglu1> kub, backup your data, reinstall, restore your data
[11:32] <zorglu1> kub: no magic can be applied
[11:32] <kub> zorglu1: no, I wanna keep my current configuration
[11:33] <zorglu1> kub: ok you want to 'reinstall' or just update/upgrade ?
[11:33] <kub> zorglu1: just a reinstall-repair...
[11:33] <kub> zorglu1: some things are not working, I wanna repair them
[11:33] <zorglu1> kub: ok define reinstall
[11:34] <zorglu1> kub: you have to help us help you :) describe precisely your problems :)
[11:34] <yur> any one know if we can have kde and at the same time gnom?thnx
[11:34] <zorglu1> yur, you can
[11:34] <kub> zorglu1: reinstall = install all packages again, but keeping changes I made until now on my system
[11:35] <kub> zorglu1: something like that
[11:35] <kub> zorglu1: windows-reinstall style... :P
[11:35] <yur> how can ido that,thnx
[11:35] <zorglu1> kub: why do you want to do that ?
[11:35] <gatekeeper> yur: you mean installed on the same system ?
[11:35] <yur> ya
[11:35] <zorglu1> kub: what do you expect from it ?
[11:35] <robotgeek> kub: backup ~/
[11:36] <zorglu1> yur, something like 'sudo apt-get install kde-desktop gnome-desktop'
[11:36] <robotgeek> kub: also, dpkg --get-selections > packagelist.txt
[11:36] <gatekeeper> yur: have you installed ubuntu or kubuntu already or neither?
[11:36] <kub> zorglu1: well, I'm having problems with the audio system, cdrom, smb, etc... nothing important, but annoying (my install crashed)
[11:36] <yur> ubuntu
[11:36] <kub> but I don't wanna make a fresh install again
[11:36] <zorglu1> kub: you should :)
[11:37] <zorglu1> kub: if your installed crashed, reinstall from scratch
[11:37] <zorglu1> my advice :)
[11:37] <gatekeeper> yur: I think it is apt-get install kdesktop hang on while I check...
[11:37] <kub> zorglu1: :) but I know it will crash again...
[11:38] <yur> k thnx
[11:38] <kub> zorglu1: always do
[11:38] <zorglu1> kub, you should try to fix the why it crash
[11:38] <kub> zorglu1: impossible to say
[11:38] <kub> zorglu1: it crash at 86% (installing basic packages)
[11:38] <gatekeeper> yur: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:39] <zorglu1> kub, ok reburn cd and check them :)
[11:39] <zorglu1> kub: smell like bad cd from here
[11:39] <yur> thnx gatekeeper it it D/n now
[11:39] <kub> zorglu1: that's why I wanna repair the system without making a fresh install
[11:39] <gatekeeper> yur: your welcome :-)
[11:40] <zorglu1> kub: my advice is 'it is clearly not a good idea' :)
[11:40] <kub> zorglu1: not possible, I tried from my CD-RW unit too... same situation
[11:40] <zorglu1> kub: 25years of computer here, this may give some credibility to my opinino :)
[11:40] <kub> zorglu1: I don't doubt it, my friend
[11:41] <kub> zorglu1: but I can do what I can do...
[11:41] <zorglu1> kub: have you checked the cd you burned ?
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> zorglu1: Someone else earlier's install also crashed at 86% I don't know whether that would be coincidence
[11:41] <zorglu1> kub, there are some option for that
[11:41] <gatekeeper> yur: you might find this usefull: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[11:41] <TheHighChild> off hand, can someone tell me how to redirect my output to /dev/null? for example, all the crap I get when launching kate 'kate &' I would like to redirect to /dev/null. 'kate filename & > /dev/null' doesn't do it for me
[11:41] <thomas_> I have a problem with my shutdown and I know some other users out there in the net have this problem too
[11:41] <kub> zorglu1: I checked and it's ok
[11:41] <zorglu1> h3sp4wn: hmm the 86% seems to say no :(
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: Using fglrx ?
[11:42] <thomas_> when i want to shutdown my laptop it doesnt shutdown really it only goes to Will now halt and doesnt power of
[11:42] <thomas_> f
[11:42] <zorglu1> kub: hmm so i dunno :) sorry i have to do some frag on tremulous
[11:42] <zorglu1> kub: good luck :)
[11:42] <kub> zorglu1: thanks a lot
[11:42] <kernal> fajita: how are you?
[11:43] <thomas_> stays at acpi_power_off
[11:44] <thomas_> but i dont know how to fix this
[11:44] <gatekeeper> kub: here is a howto to backup and restore your system, but you could modify it just to backup your date then reinstall then restore your data: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=81311
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> thomas_: If you are using ati 's binary drivers then I would expect that to happen
[11:45] <kub> gatekeeper: data = programs + configuration of the whole system?
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> kub: The configuration of the whole system is broken restoring that would be pointless
[11:45] <yur> gatekeeper,i have another qstion,now it tell me select the desired default display manager: gbm orr kdm
[11:46] <yur> srry gdm or kdm
[11:46] <thomas_> that means i have to uninstall the ati drivers ?
[11:46] <zorglu1> kub: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76482.html
[11:46] <thomas_> then i my laptop shutdown correctly
[11:46] <fiyawerx> !firefox
[11:46] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:47] <zorglu1> kub: google keyword ubuntu install cd "86%"
[11:47] <kub> h3sp4wn: you are right...
[11:47] <yur> gatekeeper,i have another qstion,now it tell me select the desired default display manager: gdm or kdm
[11:47] <gatekeeper> yur: you select which window manager you want to use, when the login screen appears if you just log in it will use whatever you used last unless you select the other one
[11:47] <kernal> firefox
[11:48] <kernal> !firefox
[11:48] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:48] <yur> k i selected kdm it  is jnstalling :-)
[11:49] <kernal> !i810
[11:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about i810
[11:49] <gatekeeper> yur: doesn't matter which one you select as default, the default one will become which ever one you last used
[11:50] <yur> k thnx
[11:50] <yur> k now it finished i just have 2 restar my pc ?
[11:50] <macd> any recomendations on howto split a mpg to burn on multiple vcds?
[11:50] <gatekeeper> yur: enjoy :-)
[11:51] <yur> thnx
[11:51] <gatekeeper> yur: probable a good idea
[11:51] <gatekeeper> yur: you may only only need to log out
[11:52] <gatekeeper> then log back in
[12:00] <chicken_Fire> hi, I have a problem: gam_server takes 20% cpu after one day uptime... How do I remove it at boot?