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sebakillerhi01:39
Keybuks/soyuz it appears changes mails aren't reaching Debian -- does the Bcc thing actually *work* ?01:48
Keybukuh01:48
Keybukcprov, Kinnison, malcc: it appears changes mails aren't reaching Debian -- does the Bcc thing actually *work* ?01:48
mptGoooooooooooooooood afternoon Launchpadders!02:00
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jameshmorning lifeless 08:39
SteveAmorning09:02
SteveAlifeless will be here any moment09:02
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lifelesshi jamesh09:46
kikohello there09:51
kikostub, ping?09:51
stubkiko: pong09:51
kikoSteveA, ping?09:51
SteveAkiko: hi09:51
kikohey there09:53
kikoI prepared an RSS/Atom mockup of a bug listing09:53
kikocould you guys check it out and see what you think?09:53
kikohttp://www.async.com.br/~kiko/bug.atom09:53
kikodoes anyone have an RSS reader to see what it looks like?09:53
kikothe charset is wrong but that's because apache's borked there09:54
kikostub, you know something about RSS, right?09:54
stubdifferent readers display things differently anyway.09:55
stubI can have a look later - I need to head out and sort out mobile phone stuff :-(09:55
kikook.09:55
stubIf it is valid, it is probably fine. I think09:55
stubthere is a validator on mark pilgrim's site somewhere.09:56
kikoit's valid09:56
kikoI just validated it09:56
kikostub, are you okay with us giving this a shot in production?09:57
kikoit's a pretty simple change09:57
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kikosalgado!09:57
stubLooks fine on bloglines09:57
stubkiko: Give what a shot? I've just seen the result - I have no idea how you are generating it.09:57
SteveAstub: do it, who cares if production crashes and burns!09:58
kikowell09:58
SteveAi mean, we only have a handful of users09:58
kikothat's not what I meant 09:58
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SteveAkiko: can you get it up for review09:59
SteveAthen get it onto staging09:59
kikosure09:59
SteveAthen we'll test it on staging09:59
kikothat's what I was implying though with the wrong words09:59
SteveAseeing as stub has looked at rosetta RSS10:00
SteveAi'd say stick it in stub's review queue10:00
kikoreally?10:01
kikothere is rosetta rss?10:01
SteveAi don't know whether it is running in production, but stub and carlos certainly worked on it10:01
mptNice work kiko!10:01
stubThere is no rosetta RSS - just some api work that people want turned into rss.10:03
SteveAstub: what's blocking getting the rosetta RSS finished?10:04
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stubSteveA: time. It is a low priority bug on my list compared to others.10:06
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salgadohi SteveA. around?10:12
SteveAhi salgado 10:13
salgadoSteveA, I was wondering if you would like to review a small patch that me an Francis cooked yesterday, as some preparation for implementing KarmaContext10:16
salgado(it's basically some cleanup and better infrastructure for testing the karma framework)10:16
SteveAsure10:16
SteveAwould you stick it on the pending reviews page, and i'll get to it during the next hour or so10:16
salgadosure, that sounds fine10:17
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salgadoSteveA, just added it there, with a link to the diff, in case it the pending-reviews script takes too long to see my branch there10:20
SteveAok10:20
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SteveAjordi: ping when you're around11:32
SteveAmpt: ping11:32
lifelessjamesh: when is the next p-r run expected ?11:34
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sivangmorning11:38
mptSteveA, pong11:39
SteveAmpt: hello. reminder about the meeting summary11:42
mptSteveA, yes, I was just trying to start on it when the wikis seemingly fell over11:43
mptthanks11:43
SteveAi used the wiki just now11:44
SteveAi'll try again to verify11:44
SteveAi can reach the launchpad wiki11:44
jameshlifeless: should be now11:46
lifelesswhts teh current freqeuncy ?11:47
jamesh2 hours11:48
mptSteveA, they're working for me too, they're just abominably slow11:53
SteveAjamesh: i'd find it helpful for scheduling reviews to have the page tell me when the next run through is due11:54
jameshyeah11:55
jameshmpt: as iHug == iiNet, I'd blame iiNet's external links11:56
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SteveAsalgado: ping11:57
lifelessSteveA: there is a bug open on that already12:01
kikoon pinging salgado?12:01
lifelessor I thought there was. jamesh and I have had prior discussions on it12:02
lifelessjamesh: did we open a bug on it ?12:02
jameshlifeless: I don't remember if a bug was opened on it12:03
lifelessjamesh: care to open one in l-deve-infra ?12:06
salgadoSteveA, pong12:12
SteveAhi salgado 12:12
SteveAabout the karma refactoring review12:12
mdkecan somebody remove the first wikiname on https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc ?12:12
SteveAwhat prompted the refactoring?12:12
mdkeseems that the wikiname still isn't editable for teams12:12
SteveAmdke: seems not even to launchpad admins12:14
mdkeSteveA: ah, alright then12:14
mdkethanks for trying12:14
lifelessmdke: there is no UI for this, and I'm in the middle of some things. I will email the dba.12:14
salgadoSteveA, we're going to implement KarmaContext and SupportKarma, so we wanted to make it easier to test and get rid of those unused methods12:14
mdkelifeless: thanks12:15
jordiSteveA: pong12:16
SteveAwe should also have a bug about being able to change wiki names for teams12:16
lifelessdone12:16
lifelessmdke: care to file such a bug12:16
salgadoSteveA, there's a bug for that already12:17
mdkelifeless: there is a bug about that12:17
lifelesscool12:17
mdkebug 255312:18
UbugtuMalone bug 2553 in launchpad "Can't edit group wiki page details" [Medium,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/255312:18
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salgadoSteveA, just replied to your review. we did quite a few changes, so you might want to have a look at the new diff02:14
salgadoSteveA, https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/fileJX88K8.html has the changes we did after your review02:15
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salgadoSteveA, is it okay to merge that branch with the changes we've done after your review?04:02
SteveAsalgado: yes04:03
KinnisonSteveA: The soyuz team want to have a confcall. What's the easiest way for us to do that? (Skype isn't playing ball)04:04
SteveAin what way is skype not playing ball?04:05
KinnisonIt refuses to allow me to find malcc or cprov, or for malcc to see me04:05
Kinnisonthus we have given up trying to make it play ball and come to ask you04:05
SteveAdid everyone restart/04:06
SteveA?04:06
malccIt's not we can't see each other online. We're not yet in each other's contacts, and contact searching seems to be busted04:06
KinnisonYes, the directory service is refusing to find us04:06
KinnisonEven a direct connection claims "user not online"04:07
SteveAin mine, i see malcolm in my contacts and not online04:07
SteveAi see celso, online04:07
SteveAi don't see daniel04:07
cprovSteveA: yup04:07
malccAh ok, now search is working. Steve, you fixed it :)04:07
SteveAi see malcolm online04:07
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KinnisonSteveA: Thanks, talking with you prompted skype to work and we just had a productive mini-confcall04:23
KinnisonSteveA: For now, we intend to have one call per day 'til we're all settled and happy04:23
cprovSteveA: would you have time today for a 400 lines diff code review ?04:24
salgadoI got 2 failures from pqm saying that my commit message didn't match the commit_re. (both of my commit messages had a r=someone)04:32
salgadolifeless, have you done something on that side? (^)04:33
salgadoone of the commit messages is one that I used earlier today and I got a test failure from it, which means that it passed the commit_re04:34
lifelessmeh, I've bugger something up04:37
lifelesssalgado: what was the exact message you used ?04:37
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lifelessfound it04:39
lifelessgo now04:39
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salgadolifeless, yeah, it works now. thanks04:53
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lifelesscprov: I dont have time to do a review, but rather than commenting out exit(1), do you think you should exit(0) ? :)05:01
lifelessrather than actually running it concurrently ;)05:01
KinnisonWe covered that in our pre-review call, cprov is going to fix that05:02
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lifelesswell the brnach is marked as needs-review.05:03
lifelesseither its ready for review or not05:03
lifeless:)05:03
KinnisonI spotted it after he put it up for review :-)05:03
lifelessso I should allocate a reviewer ?05:03
KinnisonCan you get PQM to output a ' ' between its name and its <email> ?05:03
Kinnisoncprov: ^^^ reviewer?05:03
lifelessapparently not05:03
Kinnisonevo manages a spectacular rendering bug because of it afaict05:04
lifelessI've tried before05:04
KinnisonOh well05:04
Kamionanyone know where the combined installer translation files went in Rosetta?05:07
KamionIIRC they used to be in /distros/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer05:07
Kamionoh, sorry, forgive me, I'm stupid. /distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/debian-installer (OBVIOUSLY)05:07
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cprovlifeless: tks, fixed 05:23
cprovlifeless: yes, please (reviewer allocation)05:25
lifelessdone (jamesh)05:39
salgadostub, around?05:40
cprovlifeless: thank you05:41
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YannigHello everybody :)05:45
YannigDo someone know when we are able to translate Edgy (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/edgy/+lang/oc)?05:46
kikocarlos does05:46
kikobut he is on vacation today05:46
kikojordi?05:46
mdkeYannig: not sure, but if you keep translating dapper, then your translations will be merged into Edgy too, so they are worth double :)05:47
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YannigFair enough :)05:47
kaolwhat's the deal with having both kaol and kaol-debian registered on launchpad? I know that launchpad routinely adds accounts for DDs without asking, but why'd you make both?05:48
mdkekaol: it is likely to have been an automated thing, you can merge the two accounts from https://launchpad.net/people05:49
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mdkethere is also a third one of you by the looks of it. https://launchpad.net/people/kari05:50
kaolnah, I was just curious, I wasn't going to use it for anything.05:50
mdkeok05:51
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YannigThanks for the answers :)05:53
kikokaol, it's usually because you have multiple email addresses05:59
kikokaol, the reason we create the accounts is just to be able to keep the historical information. we don't email them (unless BjornT's code has bugs :-P)05:59
kikokaol, you can use https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge to link them together05:59
mdkekiko: he's not here.06:12
mdkeor she, I suppose06:14
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salgadolifeless, did you change commit_re to not match the reviewer stamp at the end of the message?06:19
lifelessit was never meant to match at the end :)06:20
lifelessthat was a bug I had not gotten around to fixing.06:20
lifelesssalgado: however, I have chatted with steve and am about to change it to allow the []  to turn up anywhere in the message06:23
salgadolifeless, come on, that was a nice bug06:23
lifelessin fact, it still is like that06:23
lifelessit should just work06:23
lifelessup06:24
lifelessyup06:24
lifelessjust tested.06:24
SteveAyou mean you wrote tests for it?06:24
SteveAkiko: ping06:25
lifelessits data, no test funcationality for it, but I do have adhoc facilities06:25
SteveAfrom testutils import adhoc06:25
SteveAkiko: boomshanka06:25
lifelessindeed06:26
salgadolifeless, well, messages like https://chinstrap.ubuntu.com/~dsilvers/paste/filebrtf8G.html used to pass06:30
salgadoI mean, messages with the stamp not inside [] 06:30
lifelessthe []  should be jus tthe r= bit06:31
lifelessI.e. 06:31
lifeless'Some cleanup and better infrastructure for testing the karma framework [r=stevea] '06:31
kikome06:32
kikoSteveA, omph06:32
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lifelessSteveA: http://bzr.arbash-meinel.com/branches/bzr/demandload06:40
lifelesskiko: learn about the preview button!06:46
mdzbradb: where's that description of the Malone bug filing XMLRPC API?  I can't find it in the launchpad wiki06:46
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lifelessSteveA: one link: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.bazaar-ng.general/13491/match=demandload06:48
kikolifeless, bla bla bla06:48
bradbmdz: it's in my tree, atm, half broken after adjustments made after talking with infinity in paris06:48
kikomdz, did you see my recent addition to BugListingsAsRSS?06:49
SteveABlar Blar BLAR06:49
lifelesskiko: you are a spammer!06:50
kikoso?06:51
kikoat least I'm not pimping global monkeypatching on a public channel!!06:51
SteveAit's catching06:51
SteveAzope does it, hg does it and bzr does it06:52
SteveAso, I'm talking with Zope people about doing it in one Python package06:52
lifelesskiko: if yousomething as rad to pimp, you would do so06:54
mdzkiko: no, I don't think I've ever seen that page, much less subscribed to it06:54
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mdzkiko: but I did see your .atom that you showed to Keybuk06:54
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tobyhallo. Habe mich bei Launchpad eingetragen und die Mail mit dem Besttigungslink ausgefhrt. Nun bin ich infomiert worden, dass ich meine Mailadresse noch besttigen msste. Wenn ich dies aber erneut tun mchte, dann bekomme ich den Hinweis, dass ich dies bereits getan habe und nun nichts mehr tun msste.....Kann mir das mal einer erklren? Was mach ich denn da?07:23
BjornTtoby: at what url do see this? if you have confirmed your email address once, you shouldn't have to do anything else.07:26
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kikomdz, did you like the idea?07:54
siretartis the authserver on macquarie publicly available? what do I need to request access to macquarie07:54
mdzkiko: RSS is not really in my toolbox at present08:07
mdkesiretart: https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/AuthServer might help...08:53
siretartmdke: well, the port doesn't seem to be open for me08:54
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mdkesiretart: right, it seems to be for internal use. i would have thought that spiv should be able to help you with getting access08:55
siretartmdke: I know that spec, and I'd like to use the authserver08:55
siretartperhaps I need to file a RT ticket? but I don't know how to do it08:55
mdkefrom that page I would have thought that talking to spiv is sufficient08:56
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