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Riddell | _Sime: hi | 01:07 |
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kwwii | time for bed | 01:18 |
kwwii | night all | 01:18 |
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linuxmonkey | any one test out the new skype beta? | 03:21 |
linuxmonkey | they aded alsa to it instead of oss :) | 03:22 |
crimsun | really? | 03:24 |
crimsun | that's awesome. | 03:24 |
crimsun | too bad it's still Free Beer | 03:24 |
crimsun | definitely a step in the right direction, though. | 03:25 |
linuxmonkey | yeah they even have a deb | 03:25 |
linuxmonkey | wondering how good it would work | 03:25 |
linuxmonkey | wow it works very well | 03:33 |
linuxmonkey | crimsun: im suprised | 03:34 |
crimsun | I'm not | 03:34 |
crimsun | (alsa <- duh) | 03:34 |
linuxmonkey | and the improvements | 03:34 |
linuxmonkey | wow | 03:34 |
linuxmonkey | http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/changelog.html <--check that bad boy out | 03:34 |
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bddebian | Heya | 03:43 |
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nixternal | hiya bddebian | 03:52 |
bddebian | Hi nixternal | 03:53 |
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DaSkreec1 | Hello all | 05:15 |
DaSkreec1 | Doh | 05:18 |
DaSkreec1 | I'm still logged in at work aren't I? | 05:18 |
bddebian | Hello DaSkreec | 05:50 |
DaSkreec1 | bddebian: Hiddy ho | 05:50 |
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DaSkreec1 | bddebian: How are you? | 06:00 |
bddebian | Depressed thanks. You? | 06:01 |
DaSkreec1 | Worried | 06:01 |
bddebian | worried? | 06:01 |
DaSkreec1 | Yeah | 06:03 |
DaSkreec1 | Depressed? | 06:03 |
bddebian | Yeah I'm sucking lately and this damn package is kicking my butt :-( | 06:03 |
DaSkreec1 | Hey roughly the same thing that has me worried | 06:04 |
bddebian | Why worried? | 06:04 |
DaSkreec1 | Well I'm sucking lately and I have a java project that I've thought out but haven't started coding | 06:05 |
bddebian | Ah :) | 06:06 |
DaSkreec1 | I did spend two days reading about Java 6 though | 06:07 |
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nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 06:11 |
nixternal | wo0t | 06:11 |
DaSkreec1 | Doh! | 06:12 |
DaSkreec1 | You have it scripted not fair :( | 06:12 |
nixternal | nope | 06:12 |
Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 06:12 |
nixternal | i seen her on kopete first | 06:12 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: ping | 06:12 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, pong | 06:12 |
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nixternal | when i see the kopete tell me she is online, i hurry in here to catch her ;) | 06:13 |
imbrandon | ? | 06:13 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: how serious was your offer of a wifi card? | 06:13 |
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imbrandon | Hobbsee, i can send it in the morn | 06:13 |
imbrandon | if you want | 06:13 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: just found that dad's in the US at the end of next week - from about the 8th onwards | 06:13 |
imbrandon | its an atheros , should work right out of the box | 06:13 |
imbrandon | nice | 06:13 |
imbrandon | comming with ? j/k | 06:14 |
Hobbsee | nope | 06:14 |
ajmitch_ | hello Hobbsee | 06:14 |
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Hobbsee | hi andrew | 06:14 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: get one quickly! | 06:14 |
imbrandon | heya ajmitch_ | 06:14 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: | 06:14 |
ajmitch_ | hey imbrandon | 06:14 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: fixed revu yet? | 06:15 |
imbrandon | lol | 06:15 |
ajmitch_ | what do you mean? | 06:15 |
ajmitch_ | since noone has complained of it being broken, and people have been able to upload without issues | 06:15 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, jpatrick was using it just after you without probs | 06:15 |
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imbrandon | ment to tell you that but you was on you way to sleep | 06:16 |
nixternal | OT -> http://www.cowabduction.com/ | 06:16 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: it's broken, last night. | 06:16 |
Hobbsee | bleh | 06:16 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee: give some more info than "it's broken". please | 06:16 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, her upload wasent showing up on the site after 1 hour ( afaik that was the only issue ) | 06:17 |
ajmitch_ | right | 06:17 |
ajmitch_ | then she's probably not in the current keyring | 06:18 |
imbrandon | but as i said jpatrick was using it no probs | 06:18 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: :( why not? | 06:18 |
imbrandon | hrm new keyring? can you check if i'm in it ? | 06:18 |
imbrandon | lol | 06:18 |
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ajmitch_ | imbrandon: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members | 06:18 |
imbrandon | ahh guess i'm not /me go's to add self | 06:19 |
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imbrandon | ajmitch_, do we need to ping someone or can you approve ? | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | so now i can reupload, unless bddebian fixed his pbuilder | 06:20 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: should be able to approve | 06:20 |
bddebian | Hobbsee: Nope sorry. I am useless lately :-( | 06:21 |
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imbrandon | hehe | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: remember that i meet you in under a week, and its' a good idea to stay off my bad side. | 06:21 |
bddebian | Bah, I'm going to bed. Gnight folks | 06:21 |
imbrandon | lol | 06:21 |
ajmitch_ | uh oh | 06:21 |
imbrandon | gnight bddebian | 06:21 |
imbrandon | sleep well | 06:21 |
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Hobbsee | night bddebian | 06:21 |
ajmitch_ | night bddebian | 06:21 |
Hobbsee | hehe, smart man :P | 06:21 |
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imbrandon | heh thanks ajmitch_ so now any pgp keys we have listed on LP will work for signing ? | 06:22 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: yes | 06:22 |
imbrandon | kool | 06:22 |
ajmitch_ | it's just syncing keys now | 06:23 |
ajmitch_ | takes awhile | 06:23 |
ajmitch_ | since it pulls all of -dev & -core-dev also | 06:23 |
imbrandon | np i wont have an upload for atleaste an hour or so , maybe a bit longer | 06:23 |
ajmitch_ | Hobbsee is probably waiting impatiently | 06:23 |
imbrandon | heh | 06:23 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | i wasnt, actually | 06:24 |
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ajmitch_ | breakfast? | 06:24 |
=== Hobbsee smacks imbrandon for getting her nick wrong. | ||
ajmitch_ | it's nearly 2:30 | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | yeah, that thing before lunch | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | yes, and? | 06:24 |
imbrandon | gah <tab> | 06:24 |
Hobbsee | i woke up at about 1.30... | 06:25 |
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=== ajmitch_ will have to try & remember Hobbsee's name next week ;) | ||
imbrandon | hahahahahaha | 06:25 |
Hobbsee | haha | 06:25 |
ajmitch_ | and I thought I was bad, getting up at nearly 9AM | 06:25 |
imbrandon | just dont say Hobbsee in person ;) | 06:26 |
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Hobbsee | hehe | 06:26 |
imbrandon | heh its about 11:30 pm local time | 06:26 |
DaSkreec1 | Whats wrong with calling her Hobbsee? | 06:26 |
Hobbsee | i do answer to that :P | 06:27 |
crimsun | (because that's not her name!) | 06:27 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: sure it is, i refused to let dad use it :P | 06:27 |
DaSkreec1 | It's her chosen name which is just as valid | 06:27 |
crimsun | sure | 06:28 |
=== Hobbsee advises people that she will shoot them if they decide to call her by middle name. | ||
DaSkreec1 | bs? | 06:28 |
Hobbsee | oh, adn wont answer | 06:28 |
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=== imbrandon dosent know sarah's middle name | ||
=== robotgeek doesnt know Hobbsee's middle name | ||
robotgeek | haha | 06:28 |
imbrandon | ;) | 06:28 |
Hobbsee | :P | 06:28 |
robotgeek | maybe its Hobbsee | 06:29 |
imbrandon | Sarah Hobbsee Hobbs , heheh | 06:29 |
DaSkreec1 | Hob bs Ee? | 06:29 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: did Ridd*ell fix kde? | 06:29 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, no idea havent looked yet | 06:29 |
robotgeek | imbrandon: fix amarok already ? :) | 06:29 |
imbrandon | robotgeek, just woke up 20 min ago gimme a few ;) | 06:29 |
imbrandon | hehe | 06:30 |
robotgeek | heh, take your time | 06:30 |
Hobbsee | darn | 06:30 |
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=== Hobbsee doesnt want to have to use that evil gnome more than she has to | ||
robotgeek | i would not have bothered (you told me about last.fm support, and i got suked in) | 06:30 |
DaSkreec1 | What makes gnome evil? | 06:30 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, give me about 10 minutes to update my vm and i'll check | 06:30 |
robotgeek | DaSkreec1: cause they are gnomes? | 06:30 |
imbrandon | DaSkreec1, other than its ugly ? | 06:30 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: okay | 06:30 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: very. | 06:31 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, considering you will be in sydney in a week i wouldent try ;) | 06:31 |
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: cue the dead parrot sketch. | 06:31 |
ajmitch_ | I won't | 06:31 |
DaSkreec1 | Oh | 06:31 |
DaSkreec1 | Being ugly makes you evil | 06:31 |
ajmitch_ | I would actually like to get back to NZ in one piece | 06:31 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, did his parrot chute not open ? | 06:31 |
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Hobbsee | hehe | 06:31 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreec1: why? i cant do much over text | 06:32 |
imbrandon | lol | 06:32 |
DaSkreec1 | Hobbsee: Oh I meant like the KDE codefests | 06:33 |
Hobbsee | ah | 06:33 |
DaSkreec1 | Though of course I don't know if we have that for Kubuntu :) | 06:33 |
Hobbsee | we need one of them for screensavers. | 06:33 |
DaSkreec1 | but if we do I'm rethinking turning up | 06:33 |
DaSkreec1 | Speaking of that | 06:33 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, honestly why dosent the revu hackers intergrate it* totaly into LP ( *revu ) | 06:33 |
DaSkreec1 | anyone have any issues with kscreensavers? | 06:33 |
crimsun | imbrandon: LP wasn't around/ready when we first started | 06:34 |
imbrandon | ahh | 06:35 |
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Hobbsee | DaSkreec1: yeah, they dont start, Riddell's patching it | 06:35 |
DaSkreec1 | Oh I thought that was a feature :) | 06:36 |
imbrandon | lol that would be a gnome feature ;) | 06:36 |
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DaSkreec1 | have you seen gnome screensaver? | 06:36 |
DaSkreec1 | It's unusable | 06:37 |
Hobbsee | haha | 06:37 |
imbrandon | i havent seen a gnome desktop in over a year ;) | 06:37 |
DaSkreec1 | well unconfigurable | 06:37 |
Hobbsee | all of it is kinda weirded out | 06:37 |
=== Hobbsee is going to have to :( | ||
DaSkreec1 | Pretty soon it will have two options Off and random | 06:37 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, updating vm now | 06:37 |
imbrandon | DaSkreec1, hahaha classic | 06:37 |
crimsun | heh, lucky people who don't touch all desktops =) | 06:38 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: lucky and smart :P | 06:38 |
DaSkreec1 | cause it will be too confusing to have to choose an actual screensaver | 06:38 |
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imbrandon | Hobbsee, woot, looks like its atleaste starting up ( kde ) dunno how broke it is yet though | 06:40 |
Hobbsee | nice! | 06:40 |
=== Hobbsee breakfasts. | ||
Hobbsee | back soon | 06:41 |
DaSkreec1 | Whats for breakfast? | 06:41 |
imbrandon | nice, looks "useable" as its edgy i wouldent try it in more than a vm atm but looks "bootable" | 06:41 |
Hobbsee | cereal probably | 06:41 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: it'd be on a separate partition... | 06:41 |
imbrandon | yea | 06:41 |
imbrandon | goog call ;) | 06:41 |
imbrandon | good* | 06:41 |
Hobbsee | shared /home, probably, although i may rethink that. | 06:42 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: ? | 06:42 |
imbrandon | make a sarah2 account or a Hobbsee account and share that /home | 06:42 |
imbrandon | to not messup your current stuff | 06:42 |
Hobbsee | bleh. that's just as evil | 06:42 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: the 'revu hackers' are also a group of busy MOTUs, and we've been working on various things | 06:42 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, ahh i waas just wondering why revu2 wasent a "module" or what ever you would call it as pasrt of LP | 06:43 |
imbrandon | no biggie just being curious | 06:43 |
imbrandon | part* /me needs to wakeup | 06:43 |
ajmitch_ | imbrandon: apart from launchpad being closed source? | 06:44 |
imbrandon | ahh very true, like i said i dident think it threw just was a thought ;) | 06:45 |
ajmitch_ | there will be functionality like it in launchpad in the future, but I doubt we'll be the ones doing it | 06:45 |
imbrandon | ahh ok | 06:45 |
DaSkreec1 | Found Pics!! | 06:52 |
DaSkreec1 | http://www.sarahhobbs.com/ | 06:52 |
Hobbsee | what? | 06:53 |
DaSkreec1 | *coughs* | 06:53 |
DaSkreec1 | I thought you were eating cereal? | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | oh yeah | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | i was, i came back. | 06:54 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreec1: that's not me | 06:56 |
DaSkreec1 | I don't think I ever said it was | 06:56 |
DaSkreec1 | I have pics of you already | 06:57 |
Hobbsee | you do? | 06:58 |
DaSkreec1 | Yeah Two I think | 06:58 |
Hobbsee | oh, okay then | 06:59 |
ajmitch_ | heh | 06:59 |
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Hobbsee | unless i handed out two with a car in them. | 07:00 |
=== imbrandon has seen a few | ||
=== imbrandon yawns * | ||
=== Hobbsee tips a bucket of ice onto imbrandon | ||
=== imbrandon faints | ||
DaSkreec1 | You gave the URL :) | 07:03 |
=== DaSkreec1 has an old one and a new one | ||
Hobbsee | hehe | 07:06 |
Hobbsee | i thought you meant a proper picture | 07:06 |
crimsun | wow, there /are/ pics of me | 07:07 |
ajmitch_ | crimsun: really? | 07:08 |
ajmitch_ | interesting | 07:08 |
crimsun | damn, can't win it all | 07:08 |
DaSkreec1 | I think there is one picture of me | 07:08 |
DaSkreec1 | crimsun: Who ever has the least pictures wins? | 07:10 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: were you in paris at all? | 07:10 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: no | 07:10 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: that's what i thought. then again, there was a guy who i thought looked like you, for some reason. | 07:11 |
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ajmitch_ | hi raphink | 07:12 |
raphink | hi ajmitch_ | 07:12 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: ping | 07:12 |
Hobbsee | hi raphink | 07:12 |
raphink | hi Hobbsee | 07:13 |
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=== raphink tries to open a second eye | ||
raphink | eeew it's too hard | 07:14 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: hah, really. I'm not sure what pic you've seen of me | 07:14 |
Hobbsee | raphink: go back to sleep? | 07:14 |
raphink | no I can't :( | 07:14 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: it wouldnt have been you then - was one of the guys in paris that looked like i'd imagined you to look | 07:15 |
raphink | eeew taht's a hard sentence for such an early time | 07:16 |
raphink | f | 07:19 |
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DaSkreec1 | wouldn't it make more sense to put everything as small as possible so you could see it through the slit your unopened eyes are making? | 07:20 |
raphink | well eventually I think I ought to open my eyes fully | 07:20 |
raphink | I think the police wouldn't like it to find me driving with my eyes closed | 07:20 |
raphink | so there's no choice | 07:20 |
imbrandon | heh | 07:22 |
Hobbsee | heh | 07:22 |
Hobbsee | driving while half blind is such fun though! | 07:22 |
DaSkreec1 | Bah Install tux on your car :) | 07:22 |
imbrandon | tuxracer | 07:22 |
raphink | or tuxkart | 07:23 |
DaSkreec1 | Or amiele | 07:23 |
raphink | amiele? | 07:23 |
imbrandon | heh i wonder if i could get tuxcart to run on my ipod | 07:23 |
raphink | lol | 07:24 |
raphink | that would be fun | 07:24 |
DaSkreec1 | Tux's sister? | 07:24 |
raphink | ah | 07:25 |
DaSkreec1 | Wait | 07:26 |
DaSkreec1 | Adelie | 07:26 |
DaSkreec1 | :-) | 07:26 |
imbrandon | raphink, i have iDoom running on it ( iPodLinux ) do tuxkart might run ;) | 07:26 |
imbrandon | s/do/so | 07:26 |
raphink | fun :) | 07:26 |
DaSkreec1 | Get that OpenGL fired up | 07:26 |
DaSkreec1 | http://www.newsforge.com/articles/06/06/23/2111225.shtml?tid=149 | 07:27 |
raphink | put Xgl on your ipod | 07:27 |
raphink | lol | 07:27 |
imbrandon | heh its only a 75mhz ARM processor so dunno LOL | 07:27 |
imbrandon | i almost have more ram than mhz ;) | 07:27 |
=== DaSkreec1 quotes from the ipod Linux site | ||
raphink | that happened to me, not so long ago | 07:28 |
DaSkreec1 | Can you imagine a beowulf Cluster...? | 07:28 |
imbrandon | hahaha DaSkreec1 | 07:28 |
raphink | when I had a 16MHz MacII with 80MB RAM | 07:28 |
raphink | it was a great machine | 07:28 |
raphink | ah no sorry, this one had 32MB RAM :) | 07:28 |
DaSkreec1 | Yay! A Paris write up at last | 07:28 |
raphink | the 80MB RAM was a 200MHz PPC :) | 07:29 |
raphink | DaSkreec1: ? | 07:29 |
imbrandon | DaSkreec1, http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/misc/kubuntu_on_ipod_nano.jpg <-- ipodlinux with a kubuntu bootup logo on my ipod | 07:29 |
raphink | geek :p | 07:29 |
imbrandon | heh | 07:29 |
DaSkreec1 | raphink: ? | 07:30 |
DaSkreec1 | imbrandon: geek | 07:30 |
=== imbrandon is a proud geek at times ;) | ||
raphink | sure | 07:31 |
raphink | did you write some docs about this kubuntu thingy on ipod? | 07:31 |
imbrandon | raphink, not yet, i was planning on it | 07:32 |
raphink | ok :) | 07:32 |
imbrandon | its realy just ipodlinux with the boot logo changed out and .... a few apps installed | 07:33 |
imbrandon | trying to get dpkg to work on it so i can make ipod packages ;) | 07:33 |
imbrandon | lol | 07:33 |
imbrandon | dpkg-cross rocks ;) | 07:33 |
DaSkreec1 | raphink: You had a question? | 07:37 |
raphink | no | 07:37 |
DaSkreec1 | ok | 07:37 |
raphink | do you guys know where I can find a tutorial on how to set a build server with buildd? | 07:42 |
DaSkreec1 | http://trends.newsforge.com/trends/06/06/28/192244.shtml?tid=138&tid=25&tid=3 | 07:42 |
DaSkreec1 | sorry not related | 07:42 |
raphink | hehe | 07:42 |
DaSkreec1 | Just some comments made on Kubuntu in that article | 07:42 |
crimsun | raphink: http://www.debonaras.org/wiki/HowTo/SetUpBuildd | 07:43 |
raphink | thanks crimsun :) | 07:43 |
raphink | crimsun: the deb is sbuild right? | 07:43 |
crimsun | raphink: yes | 07:44 |
=== ajmitch_ should setup a buildd at home :) | ||
raphink | hehe :) | 07:47 |
DaSkreec1 | G'day mate! | 07:56 |
=== DaSkreec1 beds | ||
Hobbsee | ajmitch_: yes, you should, that sounds like fun | 07:56 |
Hobbsee | DaSkreec1: that's kinda wrong anyway - kwwii gets paid too, i think | 07:58 |
DaSkreec1 | imbrandon: linuxChick agrees. You are a geek :) | 07:58 |
DaSkreec1 | I remember something about that | 07:59 |
imbrandon | lol | 08:00 |
imbrandon | ajmitch_, i thought about it just dident know if my poor old 333mhz server would take it ;) | 08:00 |
DaSkreec1 | Well the byline says that he is on the council | 08:00 |
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=== DaSkreec1 waves off. Good Night good people | ||
Hobbsee | night DaSkreec1 | 08:06 |
imbrandon | gnight DaSkreec1 | 08:10 |
Hobbsee | for goodness sake. i do like taking the hard solution, dont i? | 08:11 |
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Hobbsee | raphink: around? | 08:14 |
raphink | Hobbsee: quite | 08:15 |
Hobbsee | raphink: great. why do i get http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/ksudoku-0606290205/lintian if i've just added small bits from what's already in debian? | 08:16 |
raphink | well for edgy it's pretty normal | 08:16 |
raphink | since imo the current lintian test is achieved by the dapper packagee | 08:16 |
imbrandon | cept for the CVS dir should be deleted ;) | 08:16 |
raphink | which ignores edgy | 08:16 |
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raphink | NMU is normal, too | 08:17 |
raphink | ubuntu1 is considered NMU but it's not | 08:17 |
Hobbsee | raphink: right, yep | 08:17 |
raphink | so as imbrandon said, everything is fine except CVS which should be removed | 08:17 |
Hobbsee | yeah, i was meaning in reference to that CVS bit | 08:17 |
Hobbsee | raphink: just delete it? and why's debian got it in there? | 08:18 |
imbrandon | someone being lazy i imagine ;) | 08:18 |
raphink | Hobbsee: Debian packages are not perfect ;) | 08:18 |
Hobbsee | raphink: right, true. fixing now (assuming i can delete it fine) | 08:19 |
raphink | Hobbsee: well preferably you should ask upstream to remove it from next version | 08:21 |
raphink | so as a result Debian won't have it either | 08:22 |
raphink | anyway | 08:23 |
raphink | I'm going to work | 08:23 |
raphink | laters :) | 08:23 |
Hobbsee | bye raphink | 08:23 |
Hobbsee | hmm...the lintian warning doenst go away when you delete the admin/cvs dir. | 08:30 |
imbrandon | there shouldnt be any cvs dirs | 08:30 |
Hobbsee | yes, but getting rid of it and the warning is something i havent figured out yet. | 08:33 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i think i win! | 08:50 |
imbrandon | ? | 08:52 |
imbrandon | heh | 08:52 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee FTW ;) | 08:52 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: want to test again, or not bother? | 08:53 |
imbrandon | yea i can test it again, but upload it somewhere so i can download on my edgy box ( no email client setup yet ) | 08:53 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: hmmm...if i'm removing a directory once, it fails if i remove it again. | 08:55 |
imbrandon | huh ? | 08:55 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: i built ksudoku with my pbuilder, including a rule of rm -r admin/CVS - so it fails if i try to rebuild it. | 08:56 |
imbrandon | ahh lol | 08:57 |
Hobbsee | how does one apply a patch again? | 08:57 |
imbrandon | patch orig patchfile ? | 08:57 |
Hobbsee | *tries* | 08:57 |
crimsun | you need a redirection, usually | 08:57 |
crimsun | ala patch foo <some_patch | 08:58 |
crimsun | or cat some_patch |patch | 08:58 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: patch is in the directory above. just tried patch -p0 ../ksudoku.debdiff | 08:58 |
Hobbsee | and it's freezing | 08:59 |
crimsun | the # in -p# depends on the context in the debdiff | 08:59 |
crimsun | right, you're missing a shell redirection | 08:59 |
crimsun | patch -p0 --dry-run < ../ksudoku.debdiff | 08:59 |
crimsun | it's a Really Good Idea to use --dry-run first | 09:00 |
Hobbsee | what's that do? | 09:03 |
crimsun | --dry-run simulates | 09:04 |
Hobbsee | oh yeah right...hehe | 09:04 |
Hobbsee | i swear i'm the biggest moron. | 09:05 |
Hobbsee | okay, uploading. if someone could test that, like imbrandon, that'd be cool | 09:05 |
crimsun | .oO( you didn't test it yourself? ) | 09:07 |
Hobbsee | oh grr, the error didnt go away. | 09:07 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: i cant get the fscking chroots to work. | 09:07 |
crimsun | what's broken? | 09:08 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: what i'm really looking to do is to get a pbuilder to check if the debs are installable too. stevenk is going to help me when he gets home from work | 09:09 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: an Edgy pbuilder? | 09:10 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: yes | 09:10 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: in Dapper (host)? | 09:10 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: yes | 09:10 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: that's pretty painless. I presume you have pbuilder installed? | 09:11 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: the pbuilder's working - just need it to test if the deb is installable. | 09:11 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: yeah, of course. both pbuilders (dapper and edgy) work fine | 09:11 |
Hobbsee | they just dont test the debs after creating them. | 09:11 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: right, you just want ``sudo pbuilder login'' | 09:11 |
crimsun | (for the edgy one) | 09:11 |
crimsun | from the host, copy the deb{,s} into the Edgy pbuilder | 09:12 |
crimsun | dpkg -i foo.deb [..] | 09:12 |
crimsun | that should fail | 09:12 |
crimsun | then ``apt-get -f install'' | 09:12 |
crimsun | if that works, then you deb is fine | 09:12 |
Hobbsee | ah right.... | 09:12 |
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crimsun | your^ | 09:13 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: um, how do i copy the deb into the pbuilder? | 09:14 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: from the host, use cp foo path | 09:16 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: path is gleaned from pbuilder's messages | 09:16 |
Hobbsee | ahhh...just found that | 09:16 |
Hobbsee | i was looking to do it from pbuilder :P | 09:16 |
crimsun | yeah, that won't work, since it's a chroot ;) | 09:16 |
Hobbsee | heh | 09:17 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2527 - how am i supposed to go about removing that cvs directory? | 09:17 |
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Hobbsee | good, that wokred! | 09:18 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: how are you generating the source package? | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | sarah@sarah:~$ cat revubuild | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | #!/bin/bash | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa -rfakeroot -k98B2D4F0 | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: ^ | 09:20 |
Hobbsee | the .orig.tar.gz is straight from debian | 09:20 |
crimsun | ok, let me pull it down | 09:20 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: that's normally not a big issue | 09:24 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: right.... | 09:25 |
Hobbsee | so leave it, or what? | 09:25 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: it needs to be removed upstream, since dpkg-source will ignore deletions | 09:25 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: ah, what do i do with a package that still needs the ubuntu changes, exactly as they are? | 09:25 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: yeah, i emailed upstream asking them to remove it | 09:25 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: sorry, what's the context of that question? | 09:26 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: there were changes for another package in dapper, which still need to be done for edgy. | 09:26 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: carry them over. | 09:26 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: what does that get marked as then? nochange? | 09:27 |
crimsun | (i.e., "merge") | 09:27 |
crimsun | Hobbsee: sorry, what are you marking, and where? | 09:27 |
Hobbsee | oh right - so just rebuild a distro of edgy? | 09:27 |
crimsun | is there a newer Debian revision or a newer upstream? | 09:27 |
Hobbsee | no | 09:28 |
crimsun | if neither of those, then just leave it | 09:28 |
nixternal | g'nite all | 09:28 |
crimsun | 'night nixternal | 09:28 |
Hobbsee | crimsun: gotcha | 09:28 |
crimsun | there are probably some source packages in the archive that haven't been touched since Warty | 09:29 |
Hobbsee | now, dh_iconcache stuff wihtout a separate kde.mk is automatically been done, so that's a sync... | 09:29 |
crimsun | right, since we have a modified kde.mk (thanks!) | 09:29 |
Hobbsee | yep :) | 09:30 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: pong | 09:32 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: hi | 09:36 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: was wondering if you guys have any plans for zhcon | 09:37 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: it's on my merge list | 09:37 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: the maintainer hasn't upload latest release yet | 09:37 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: but he tell me hwill upload soon, but still not ben uploaded | 09:38 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: is there an ETA on 0.2.5 | 09:38 |
crimsun | ? | 09:38 |
freeflying-g4 | s/ben/been | 09:38 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: latest is 0.2.6 | 09:38 |
crimsun | ah | 09:39 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: do you think we should wait on Debian, then sync, or shall we go ahead and put 0.2.6 in Edgy? | 09:39 |
crimsun | I'm keen on the latter, but I do value minimising deltas with Debian, too | 09:40 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: I prefer to the later | 09:41 |
crimsun | freeflying-g4: ok, I'll go ahead and merge 0.2.6 then. Thanks! | 09:42 |
freeflying-g4 | crimsun: great, thanks | 09:42 |
Hobbsee | fun. kdebase-dev is broken. | 09:52 |
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mvo | hello, can someone help me? does the kde screensaver has a similar thing as xscreensaver-command ? to send it stuff via the commandline (e.g. to activate to kill it)? | 12:05 |
Hobbsee | bye all, recording calls. | 12:06 |
sebas | mvo: dcop kdesktop | 12:08 |
sebas | dcop kdesktop KScreensaverIface quit for example | 12:08 |
mvo | sebas: thanks! | 12:10 |
sebas | You're welcome | 12:10 |
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Hobbsee | hi all | 03:14 |
jjesse | morning Hobbsee | 03:14 |
jpatrick | hi Hobbsee | 03:14 |
Hobbsee | hey jjesse and jpatrick :) | 03:14 |
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jjesse | does edgy kde start now? | 04:09 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: i believe imbrandon_ said it did | 04:09 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: however, sudo is broke. | 04:09 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: enable the root account | 04:09 |
Hobbsee | or dont upgrade visudo | 04:09 |
jjesse | hmmm just did a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get distup gread | 04:10 |
jjesse | dist-upgrade | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 04:10 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: Go into recovery mode and do dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/sudo_1.6.8p12-1ubuntu6_i386.deb && aptitude hold sudo && aptitude dist-upgrade (sudo should be held back( | 04:15 |
Hobbsee | from #ubuntu+1 | 04:15 |
jjesse | Hobbsee: will do once i'm done upgradeing | 04:15 |
jjesse | ooo now have kde starting on edgy virtual machine :) | 04:22 |
Hobbsee | :) | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | hwo well does it work? | 04:23 |
jjesse | besides sudo problems seems to work well | 04:23 |
jjesse | don't have much time to play with it yet, but will :) | 04:23 |
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Hobbsee | [00:32] <Mithrandir> that's an early warning for everybody. First milestone release in approximately two weeks. | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: there's a fix for sudo, but it FTBFS - the source is there though | 04:32 |
DaSkreech | Good morning | 04:33 |
Hobbsee | hi DaSkreech | 04:33 |
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DaSkreech | Hello Hobbsee :-) | 04:36 |
jjesse | monring DaSkreech | 04:37 |
DaSkreech | hi jjesse | 04:37 |
DaSkreech | @time swizterland | 04:45 |
DaSkreech | Hmm | 04:46 |
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uniq | riddell: out of sync with dapper? it's buildt on edgy. | 05:02 |
jjesse | i think Riddell is on vacation? | 05:02 |
uniq | oh.. ok, just replied to a away-log-entry. | 05:03 |
Hobbsee | jjesse: he is, doing a talk at UKUUG | 05:04 |
jjesse | ah | 05:04 |
uniq | nevermind, i figured out what he was refering to. | 05:05 |
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nixternal | moins everyone | 05:08 |
Hobbsee | hi nixternal | 05:09 |
nixternal | hiya Hobbsee | 05:09 |
jjesse | morning nixternal | 05:09 |
nixternal | morning jjesse | 05:09 |
nixternal | just got back from the gym, and a small job...what way to start a beautiful summer day off ;) | 05:10 |
uniq | riddell: fixed. uploading new version as we speak. I'll send you a mail about it. to remind you. | 05:10 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon_: Awake? | 05:11 |
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bddebian | Howdy | 05:16 |
DaSkreech | bddebian: Hi | 05:17 |
bddebian | Hi DaSkreech | 05:20 |
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Hobbsee | gnome is officially SCARY! | 05:58 |
nixternal | lol | 06:06 |
Hobbsee | and white on light grey is not a good contrast colour! | 06:07 |
nixternal | either is human ;) | 06:07 |
nixternal | although, the colors have kind of grown on me | 06:07 |
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Hobbsee | kde usually has far more stuff - at least on hoary. | 06:08 |
nixternal | no they are there...just hidden very well | 06:08 |
Hobbsee | urgh | 06:08 |
nixternal | there is a lot of stuff that does't get thrown into menus i have noticed | 06:08 |
Hobbsee | true | 06:08 |
nixternal | but for smoothness and cleaness...gnome isn't all that bad... | 06:08 |
Hobbsee | true | 06:09 |
nixternal | who am i kidding..it isn't all that good ;) | 06:09 |
Hobbsee | :P | 06:09 |
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DaSkreech | What would make a process unkillable | 06:30 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech, sudo kill -9 <pid> , nothing is unkillable | 06:33 |
DaSkreech | Doesn't kill it | 06:33 |
DaSkreech | Still sits there taking up 100% of the CPU | 06:33 |
imbrandon | sudo kill dosent kill it ? are you on linux ? | 06:34 |
imbrandon | kill -9 dosent not kill something it kills it without question | 06:35 |
DaSkreech | Thats what I thought | 06:35 |
DaSkreech | :-( | 06:35 |
imbrandon | no it does, no thinking | 06:35 |
imbrandon | if it dosent something is MAJORLY wrong | 06:35 |
DaSkreech | Ah well when It happens again I'll try it again and see | 06:35 |
DaSkreech | Well yeah | 06:35 |
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DaSkreech | Did it again | 06:44 |
jjesse | can i ask a really silly question? how do i change the time from the console? like i said really silly question | 06:47 |
bddebian | date <date> <time> | 06:48 |
DaSkreech | Yeah that catches me too. Shouldnt it be time? | 06:49 |
bddebian | You would think :) | 06:49 |
nixternal | # sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com <- quick, easy and accurate jjesse for setting date and time | 06:49 |
jjesse | thats what it is for dos :) | 06:49 |
nixternal | Ubuntu needs ntpdate, as it can't hold time worth a #$#@# | 06:50 |
DaSkreech | I thought that your computer can't hold the time the System just reads the hardware time with an offset anyway | 06:51 |
nixternal | well..the offset is way off then :) i haven't noticed the time being so far off.... | 06:52 |
nixternal | nevermind...now i know why...dont' have ntpdate cron'd | 06:52 |
jjesse | marked bug # 14883 as rejected due to original requestor not responding since may of 2005 | 06:52 |
jjesse | bug #14883 | 06:52 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 14883 in kdebase "KInfocenter crashes with a SIGSEGV when trying the OpenGL menu item" [Low,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/14883 | 06:52 |
jjesse | bug #16469 is flagged as fix commited could someone check (or help me check) if the fix was indeed committed so we can change it to fix released? | 06:55 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 16469 in kdebase "konqueror crashes when accessing streams on spiegel.de" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/16469 | 06:55 |
jjesse | it appears that upgrading to edyg has completely broken sudo :( | 06:56 |
imbrandon | jjesse, known issuse, cpio is broke too, they are working on it | 06:56 |
imbrandon | [11:20] <mdz> kernel upgrade + sudo downgrade | 06:56 |
imbrandon | [11:21] <infinity> But the new sudo was so much FUN. | 06:56 |
imbrandon | [11:21] <infinity> Like a distro team video game. | 06:56 |
imbrandon | ;) | 06:56 |
nixternal | hahaha | 06:57 |
imbrandon | sudo will be fixed and .17 will be released eta 1hour afaik | 06:57 |
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jjesse | so how woould i upgrade if sudo is broken? enable root? | 07:00 |
imbrandon | enable root upgrade , disable root | 07:00 |
imbrandon | ;) | 07:00 |
jjesse | restore vm snapshot and upgrade is just as easy :0 | 07:01 |
imbrandon | right | 07:01 |
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Tonio_ | hey | 07:52 |
DaSkreech | Is there a cups Chan? | 07:52 |
imbrandon | heya Tonio_ | 07:53 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech, dunno | 07:53 |
DaSkreech | My Workmates flipped at the ipod | 07:54 |
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imbrandon | jjesse, cpio and sudo are updated if you dident know | 07:54 |
imbrandon | DaSkreech, my ipod ? | 07:54 |
imbrandon | heh | 07:54 |
jjesse | saw that | 07:54 |
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jjesse | ooooo Knot CD 1 released July 13 :) | 08:11 |
DaSkreech | Knot? | 08:16 |
DaSkreech | SlipKnot? | 08:16 |
jjesse | for edgy, the cds will be called Knots | 08:18 |
jjesse | according to the schedule | 08:18 |
DaSkreech | Like Flights? | 08:19 |
jjesse | yeah for Dapper they were Flights for edgy it appears they will be Knots | 08:20 |
DaSkreech | Were they Flights for Breezy as well? | 08:20 |
jjesse | DaSkreech: i don't remember | 08:21 |
crimsun | cool, the Kubuntu Ship-It CDs arrived :) | 08:23 |
jjesse | mine still haven't shipped where do you live crimsun | 08:23 |
crimsun | jjesse: east coast USA (shipped from The Netherlands) | 08:23 |
jjesse | still waiting for mine, i'm in michigan | 08:24 |
jjesse | so hopefully soon | 08:24 |
crimsun | DaSkreech: no, they were "Colony" in Breezy | 08:25 |
DaSkreech | Ahh good memory | 08:25 |
crimsun | "Array" in Hoary | 08:25 |
DaSkreech | I have a Wallpaper with A Badger in flight which is why I remember it being flight. Course that was probably because the badger was breezy | 08:25 |
hunger | I am looking forward to whatever crow or raven;-) | 08:26 |
DaSkreech | Warty? :-) | 08:27 |
nixternal | jjesse: i didn't get mine either..remember i told you i received some...ya..they were Breezy cd's ;( | 08:27 |
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DaSkreech | Did it again | 09:00 |
DaSkreech | I like BOR :-( | 09:04 |
DaSkreech | It just runs unreliably :-( | 09:04 |
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mhb | hello everyone | 09:31 |
mhb | I would like to ask if there is some work going on which would allow the KDE session to shut down when run from gdm and vice versa ... | 09:32 |
uniq | not that i'm aware of. | 09:34 |
uniq | freedesktop.org maybe. | 09:34 |
jjesse | hmmm how would you work with this bug? bug #18602 | 09:37 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 18602 in meta-kde "KDEInit could not launch 'xterm'. " [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/18602 | 09:37 |
mhb | uniq: it's not much of an issue yet? | 09:43 |
uniq | I think there are other issues with higher priority at this time. | 09:43 |
uniq | jjesse: i think that is when you first make a shortcut for a kde application, and then afterwards change it to a non-kde application. | 09:44 |
uniq | what he did is he copied the konsole launcher, and changed it to xterm. | 09:46 |
jjesse | so can the bug be clsoed? | 09:46 |
uniq | As i've written in the comment to the bug, I think it's how KDE works. | 09:46 |
jjesse | so reject the bu? | 09:47 |
jjesse | bug | 09:47 |
uniq | Not sure. | 09:47 |
uniq | It has to do with usability though. | 09:47 |
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uniq | You know if you go to the panel menu, and select 'add application to panel' or something like that.. you get the menu.. and the option to 'Add non-KDE application' | 09:49 |
uniq | that's what I think he should have done. | 09:49 |
jjesse | ah | 09:49 |
jjesse | i understand | 09:49 |
uniq | I used to have the same problem when i first started to use KDE. as I came from blackbox/openbox, and used Aterm. | 09:50 |
DaSkreech | Why was OpenOffice changed? | 09:56 |
uniq | is it changed? | 10:00 |
DaSkreech | Yes | 10:01 |
DaSkreech | I only notice cause I use katapult | 10:01 |
uniq | how changed? | 10:01 |
uniq | from oo2 to oo? | 10:01 |
uniq | renamed? | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | No From Writer to Word Processor | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | And Calc to Spreadsheet | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | Base to Database | 10:02 |
jjesse | that happened in dapper | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | and from that thing to Presentation | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | On the day dapper shipped? | 10:02 |
DaSkreech | Cause it was Writer and Calc up to the week before | 10:03 |
uniq | I didn't even notice, says something about how often i use those beasts. | 10:07 |
DaSkreech | I just notice kause katapult forces me to type the name | 10:08 |
uniq | heh.. can't you use binaryname in katapult? | 10:09 |
uniq | oocalc or something. | 10:09 |
uniq | typing 'OpenOffice Word Processor' to open oowriter is clumsy. | 10:09 |
jjesse | just type whateveris in the K Menu | 10:10 |
DaSkreech | uniq: That's why I just type wri | 10:10 |
uniq | I've never used katapult much. tested it twice but still stuck with the good old run command box. | 10:11 |
DaSkreech | uniq: It's much cooler | 10:12 |
DaSkreech | I can open any song or folder instantly | 10:12 |
DaSkreech | It's great | 10:12 |
uniq | hum. | 10:13 |
uniq | it can open a bunch of stuff you don't want to, can't it? | 10:14 |
uniq | does it open the last matching file/folder if it's the only alternative left? | 10:14 |
DaSkreech | Huh? | 10:14 |
DaSkreech | Not until you press enter If I understand you | 10:14 |
uniq | hum.. ok. | 10:14 |
uniq | I think I had some issues with it once. Randomly opening bookmarks.. | 10:16 |
uniq | it opens without enter. | 10:16 |
DaSkreech | Erm. I guess you can set it to do that if you want | 10:16 |
uniq | how do i configure it? | 10:18 |
uniq | it's dcop interface can't open the configure dialog. | 10:18 |
DaSkreech | Alt+Enter | 10:18 |
uniq | and there is no icon anywhere. | 10:18 |
DaSkreech | Then Ctrl+C | 10:18 |
DaSkreech | It's an easter egg!! :) | 10:18 |
uniq | ah.. thanks. | 10:18 |
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uniq | ok, it is kinda cool. | 10:19 |
uniq | i doesn't open urls though. | 10:20 |
DaSkreech | I think it used to | 10:20 |
DaSkreech | There is probably a plugin for it | 10:20 |
DaSkreech | That would be neat I think I tried it once in dapper and it didn't work and I was surprised | 10:20 |
uniq | It's not replacing my run command box until it can open urls. :) | 10:22 |
uniq | But that can't be hard to implement. | 10:22 |
DaSkreech | Nope | 10:23 |
DaSkreech | #katapult ;) | 10:23 |
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imbrandon | Riddell, where in k-d-s does it set the default window decorations ( or is it set elsewhere ? ) | 11:20 |
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