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crazy_penguingood night everybody (here is 1 am). sleep well! :)12:14
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sabaalHello everyone.12:15
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drizbwello12:15
sabaalI've run across what would, at first glance, appear to be a very useful option in the KDE Components > Session Manager menu.12:16
sabaal"Restore manually saved session"12:16
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sabaalProblem is, I have no clue how to manually save a session. :P12:16
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sabaalAnswers? Hints? Arrow, shaped signs? Anyone?12:17
sabaalArrow-shaped, too.12:17
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sabaalIs anyone on this channel besides driz awake? It's like a ghost town in here.12:19
ErtainI know the feeling.12:19
sabaalHahaha.12:19
ErtainI'm trying to make my Wacom tablet and screensaver working.12:19
sabaalWell, since you're also conscious, might you know how to manually save a session?12:20
sabaalCan't help with the tablet. Sorry.12:20
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sabaalWow, this channel was so helpful last night...12:21
sabaal...I guess everyone's sleeping in. :P12:22
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sabaalWell, I'll see if I can find it online. Thanks anyway.12:22
Kr4t05sabaal, one second, I'll look it up.12:22
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sabaalOh, alright.12:22
TheHighChildsabaal: Or we have no idea how to save sessions ;)12:22
sabaal'Salright.12:22
sabaalI've just made this place my first resource.12:22
sabaalSince it's usually faster. :P12:22
zblachany audiophiles around?12:23
sabaal*Shrug.* What's an audiophile?12:23
zblachgood/like music12:23
sabaalAll I listen to is movie/video game soundtracks. :P12:23
h3sp4wnzblach: What do you mean ?12:23
Kr4t05Someone who is obsessed with the quality of their music.12:23
zblachKr4t05: quality in both contextx12:24
zblach**ts12:24
Kr4t05audiophiles are the type of people who love high-bitrate and high-end audio hardware.12:24
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h3sp4wnzblach: I am one if you mean I have expensive active monitors and an m-audio soundcard and balanced leads12:24
zblachnot that I can affort high-end hardware, but ...12:25
zblachwhatever, i like music, but i'm running into some difficulties12:25
Kr4t05I have a nice 2.1 system that I got for Christmas.12:25
TheHighChildsounds sucks in linux. I've never gotten anything to sound as good as on other OS's12:25
Kr4t05I <3 I-Trigue12:25
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zblachmy troubles lie with the .mpc file format12:26
Kr4t05TheHighChild, you're soundcard just isn't supported as well.12:26
h3sp4wnI don't know anything about that12:26
sabaalI've never heard of .mpc.12:26
zblachmusepack12:26
Kr4t05My audio sounds just as good as Windows.12:26
sabaalMine sounds better.12:26
h3sp4wnMy soundcard sounds as good as in any os (once artsd is disabled)12:26
sabaalSeeing as how Turtle Beach's drivers hate Windows XP. :P12:27
zblachKr4t05: the goal is not to be 'as good as' windows12:27
Kr4t05Better?12:27
D4m4gebye all12:27
zblachit's like "I can run better and farther than a three year old"12:27
sabaalSeeya.12:27
Kr4t05lol12:27
h3sp4wnI think asio works well and alot easier to get right than jackd12:27
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zblachi can, but 'big deal'?12:27
zblachnot really.12:27
Kr4t05Heh12:27
Kr4t05I know.12:28
Kr4t05np: Nobuo Uematsu - The Chase of Highway [0:06/4:34] 12:28
Kr4t05Er,,12:28
sabaalYES!12:28
h3sp4wnzblach: Do you know about jackd ?12:28
zblachfinal fantasy, right?12:28
Kr4t05My bad12:28
zblachjackd?12:28
Kr4t05zblach, yeah12:28
sabaal*Sings along.*12:28
zblachthe jack audio daemon?12:28
h3sp4wnyes12:28
Kr4t05Advent Children12:28
zblachi only know the name12:28
sabaalDaah nah, de na nah nah, de nah nah nah, de nah nah naah...12:28
Kr4t05I should install gnump3d12:28
Kr4t05?12:29
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sabaalBest soundtreack ever. :D12:29
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zblachi didn't really like advent children. i would've preferred a remake of the game12:29
Kr4t05!keyboard12:29
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net12:29
sabaalThey're going to do one.12:29
sabaalYou know it. All their comments are leading up to an announcement.12:29
zblachsabaal: they've said that for years12:29
Kr4t05Is keytouch in the repos?12:29
sabaalI just hope it's multiplatform. I won't pay for a PS3.12:30
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Kr4t05sabaal, 360 or Wii?12:30
ChefWilli want nintendo wi :D12:30
sabaalProbably both for me.12:30
h3sp4wnI do also (only games I like are old arcade games and snes games)12:30
sabaalDefinitely a Wii. 360 to pick up the slack for old-style games.12:30
Kr4t05Just so you can see your mom's face when you tell her you're going to play with your Wii.12:30
ErtainI want a Wii too.12:31
sabaalHaha.12:31
ErtainI hope Square-Enix will put all of their old SNES games on the virtual console.12:31
sabaal"My Wii's smaller than yours. And yours overheats." <-After a mid-gen remodel.12:31
zblachplay 'metal gear trouser' on your wii12:32
h3sp4wnErtain: I have most of those on cartridge (The US released ones anyway - Imported them to the UK none got released here hardly at all)12:32
zblachplay as 'trouser snake'12:32
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sabaalBahahaha!12:32
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sabaal"I spent all day playing with my Wii. By the time I was done, it had almost melted."12:33
Kr4t05XD12:33
sabaalI could do this all day. :P12:33
Kr4t05Perhaps this should go to #*-offtopic?12:33
sabaalNah, I'm done.12:33
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat's emerge?12:34
zblachnow, back to music. mpc -> mp3. anyone have any ideas?12:34
h3sp4wngentoo's python piece of junk12:34
crimsunnah, it's an excellent distro regardless of one's opinion kthx.12:34
h3sp4wnI just don't like python12:35
h3sp4wnToo much typing12:35
sabaalWell, I'd better be off. Games don't make themselves, and socialization is too distracting.12:35
sabaalSeeya.12:35
Kr4t05Later. :P12:36
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Tallia1Kubuntuh3sp4wn: that was for me?12:36
Kr4t05Firefox keeps gagging on me. :<12:37
h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: Thats what it is yes12:37
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Kr4t05np: Nobuo Uematsu - One Winged Angel (FFVII AC Version) [0:11/6:07] 12:37
Kr4t05:#12:37
Kr4t05:312:37
zblachKr4t05: you know the battle victory music?12:38
Kr4t05Yeah12:38
zblachthink you can find me a midi of it>?12:38
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Kr4t05bitpim-ing it to your cell?12:38
zblachabsolutely12:38
Kr4t05lmao12:38
Kr4t05Sure.12:38
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Kr4t05Any particular mix?12:39
Kr4t05FFIX, FFVII?12:39
zblachVII12:39
linuxmonkeyanyone here know how to map widows key to bring up the kde menu12:39
Kr4t05Gotcha12:39
Kr4t05!keytouch12:39
ubotuKeyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net12:39
sylowhey, I'm trying to setup a dual boot system. what mount point should I use for kubuntu? (windows points to /media/sda1)12:39
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linuxmonkeyKr4t05: i am not using keytouch12:40
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h3sp4wnTallia1Kubuntu: Maybe my opinion of gentoo is not representative however their uclibc stage (which is the only thing I have tried to use of there's recently) is highly borked12:41
Kr4t05zblach: http://www.ffshrine.org/ff7/ff7/ff7-1-11-fanfare.mid12:41
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omeowIs it hard to make packages for Kubuntu?12:43
zblachvery nice12:43
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h3sp4wnomeow: Not very hard - Read the debian packaging guide12:43
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Kr4t05KDE hates me. ><12:45
omeowh3sp4wn: I suppose it's not possible to convert a suse package into a debian package?12:45
omeowThere's this thing I'd love to try out; http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4058612:45
omeowBut there are only suse packages.12:45
Kr4t05!tell omeow about alien12:46
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tackatKr4t05: It doesn't hate you. That's just the special way it tries to show its love to you ;-)12:46
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omeowThanks Kr4t05, that confirms what I already pretty much knew. ;)12:46
Kr4t05tacket, randomly barfing in my face?12:46
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h3sp4wnKr4t05: His system will really mess up if he does that12:47
Kr4t05Ah, ok12:47
h3sp4wnIts patches for qt kdelibs and kdebase12:48
h3sp4wnand at version 0.112:48
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scott_does flash player 8 not exist for linux yet?12:51
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crimsunscott_: no, and it won't.12:52
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scott_crimsun: just googled and apaprantly they are skipping 8 for linux and going directly onto 8.512:52
crimsun(I know)12:53
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scott_sucks, caus sum websites i regularly use requrie flash 812:53
scott_:(12:53
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omeowh3sp4wn: I know. But it sounds like something that should have been in KDE from version 1. =P12:54
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h3sp4wnomeow: You could add the patches yourself (with dpatch stuff like that is quite easy)12:55
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omeowI rathern not break stuff.12:56
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larson9999is there a simple answer to this question?  what should the fstab entry for a cd-rw drive that i want to let anyone mount and read/write look like?01:07
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdi guess im missing more stuff because i get the same error when sudo make install01:07
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heinrichhi all01:10
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heinrichi want to use latex on kubuntu?01:10
heinrichwhere do i get it ?01:10
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heinrichand i need some editor for it01:12
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Kr4t05great01:14
Kr4t05Kicker just crashed01:14
Kr4t05><01:15
Kr4t05OK.01:15
Kr4t05Scaling back my CPU...01:15
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korozionAnyone had issues with amarok, kaffiene, etc 'skipping' when playing music?01:32
elielibogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:32
eliehow do i get libogg.so.0?01:32
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edusmb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago01:33
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???01:34
KuLoverWhat does it mean when I try to sudo and it says that sudoers is in 0660 and should be in 0440?01:34
eduKuLover: it's about perms01:35
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eduKuLover: try this -> chmod 440 /etc/sudoers01:36
edusmb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago01:38
elieany1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672001:39
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eduhow could I reinstall Kubuntu through a server?01:44
eduhow could I reinstall Kubuntu via network?01:44
Kyraluhh01:45
h3sp4wnTry using the netboot/mini.iso01:45
Kyralnormal NetInstall?01:45
eduKyral: yes, normal net install01:45
KyralNetinstalls rock if you have broadband (and who doesn't)01:45
Kyraledu: I meant that use a normal netinst :P01:45
eduh3sp4wn: mini.iso? what's that?01:46
h3sp4wnIts for booting an installation and installing over the network01:46
h3sp4wn(its a cd which is about 7mb)01:47
eduKyral: look, I have Kubuntu installed... and now I wanna reinstall the whole system but from here, I don't wanna boot from the CD...01:47
Kyral...edu you kinda need to01:47
eduh3sp4wn: ok, and is it possible to do that from my Desktop?01:47
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eduh3sp4wn: I don't wanna reboot...01:48
h3sp4wnI don't think so easily01:48
Kyralyet you wanna reinstall the system...01:48
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macconlinehi... (my english is bad)01:50
eduh3sp4wn: for example, Live-CD has a install program for KDE... something like that01:50
Kyraledu it still requires a reboot in the end!01:50
h3sp4wnAnd the installation messes up often01:50
macconlineany that know of process Xorg???01:50
elieany1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672001:50
eduKyral: well, it doesn't matter if it is in the end01:50
Kyralmacconline: you mean the X-Server?01:50
macconlinekubuntu... Xorg process01:51
Kyralyes01:51
Kyralthat represents the GUI01:51
macconlineKyral: Xorg use 52% of RAM,,,,01:52
word_ is there a way to have a katapult-type search in the k menu?01:52
Kyralmacconline: and how much ram do you have?01:52
macconline76801:52
Kyral..I think yousa need a driver01:53
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???01:53
Kyraln0ctuRnaL-fieNd: best test for O/C Stability is memtest or prime9501:53
macconlineKyral: a driver?01:53
Kyralneither are GUI :P01:53
h3sp4wnlm-sensors may be useful01:53
Kyralmacconline: yah, like the ATI and NVidia drivers01:54
macconlinei have nvidia drivers01:54
Tallia1Kubuntuhey guys, isn't there a way to equalize the volume of the knotification sound? i use to leave the system sound to 100% otherwise multimedia players sound is too low.. but when i receive a notification... HOLY SHIT!! my ear is blown off01:54
Tallia1Kubuntumy ears*01:54
Tallia1Kubuntuare*01:54
Tallia1Kubuntu:_D01:54
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdKyral: i didnt know prime95 works on linux . thanks01:54
Kyraln0ctuRnaL-fieNd: its not Prime95 exactly01:54
Kyraln0ctuRnaL-fieNd: Google for "The Great Mersenne(sp?) Prime Number Search"01:55
Kyralthe program they provide has a torture test mode akin to Prime9501:55
elieany1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672001:55
macconlineKyral: sorry, but i don know repair this01:56
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Kyralmacconline: reboot?01:56
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macconlineyes... before % cpu after % of RAM01:56
macconlineKyral: yesterday CPU 50% and MEM 8% --- today CUP 8% and RAM 52%01:57
Kyralmacconline: sounds like you are looking at something wrong01:58
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macconlineKyral: ok, but how i see that??02:00
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Kyralmacconline: open a terminal and run free02:01
macconlinewhat have i see??? (sorry my english)02:01
sotiredok i figured out why amarok wont play anything on a samba share02:01
Kyrallook at the middle line (+/- buffers/cache)02:01
sotiredbut now i need to figure out how to mount a folder in a samba share02:01
sotired:(02:01
h3sp4wnsotired: It will if its mounted with mount -t smbfs02:01
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sotiredso what would the full command be? mount -t <folder name> <mount point> ?02:02
sotiredsorry.,..first day using kubuntu02:02
elieany1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672002:03
KyralEasy you don't have libogg :P02:03
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sotiredthats not it02:03
Kyralsotired: I was talking to elie :P02:04
sotiredim not trying to play .ogg02:04
sotiredoh02:04
sotiredim sorry02:04
Kyralsokay02:04
KyralI should have prefaced02:04
sotiredsorry if i sound partially retrded, but what do i have to do to mount that folder?02:04
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sotired?02:07
sotireddoes anyone know how i would go about mounting a smaba shared folder?02:08
sotiredsamba even02:08
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sotired:(02:10
edusotired: K Menu -> System Settings -> Sharing02:11
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h3sp4wn mount -t smbfs -o username=Administrator,password=Password //server/c$ /mnt/samba02:11
eliei already have liogg and it still same02:12
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eliei already have libogg and it still same02:12
omeowDoes anyone know what the name of the mozilla binary is? Is it just mozilla or mozilla-bin?02:12
omeow(or both?)02:12
erovmozilla-bin with a symbolic link named "mozilla", i believe02:12
h3sp4wnYou should start it with mozilla02:12
h3sp4wnmozilla is a shell script which starts mozilla-bin (I think)02:13
macconlineKyral: i run free y the swap is full02:13
omeowAh ok, thanks.02:14
princehey02:14
sotireddidnt work :(02:14
eliei already have libogg and it still say:  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:14
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Kyralmacconline: I dunno I don't know what you have been running02:15
sotiredh3sp4n:thanks for the help...i think im getting somwhere...but it still isnt working02:17
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macconlineKyral: sorry... the last message i don see02:18
princejoin channel #desktop_linux_htc02:18
Kyralmacconline: I dunno I don't know what you have been running02:18
eliei already have libogg and it still say:  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:19
sotired@h3sp4n: i keep getting an access denied02:19
Kyralelie: sorry I don't really know them02:19
Kyralthen even02:19
sotiredbut there is no pword...i can acces the share with konqeurer no problem02:19
v0taguzi cant COpy a file of mi cdrom  =S this show me this error02:19
v0taguz/media/cdrom0/MPEGAV# cp AVSEQ01.DAT /home/votaguz/02:19
v0taguzcp: reading `AVSEQ01.DAT': Input/output error02:19
v0taguzanybody help me02:19
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eliethnx anyway02:20
eduodd problem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not any more...02:21
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v0taguzanybody help me02:21
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elknof1hi everybody...  sorry can someone tell me the command that showsme wheter tha DMA is working or no??02:22
Kr4t05!dma02:23
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA02:23
eduproblem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not any more...02:23
v0taguzubotu: whith me ??02:23
sotiredwould mounting be the linux equivlant of mapping a network drive...in my case?02:23
sotiredeither way...i got it02:23
sotiredthnx02:24
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erovbeer thirty.. ahh02:24
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KaoticEvilhey all :)02:25
KaoticEvilanyone familiar with wine?02:25
sotiredi like red...02:26
sotiredsorry02:26
KaoticEvillol02:26
sotiredi had too02:26
KaoticEvili know02:26
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erovwhats the Q Kaotic.. i use it from time to time02:26
KaoticEvili know its something simple, and im sure i can do it... i just dont recall how..02:26
KaoticEvili need to get Wine to report itself as Windows 9x02:26
KaoticEvilinstead of an NT based *doze02:27
erovrun 'winecfg'02:27
KaoticEvilthats it02:27
erovnp02:27
KaoticEvilthanks :d02:27
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eliedamn i keep getting:02:33
elieCannot open display "default display"02:33
elie./ssam_lnx: error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:33
elieERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.02:33
elieCannot open display "default display"02:33
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edudo you know how the hostname SERVER can be associated with its IP?02:41
KaoticEvilw00t!! for the first time, im getting wine to install an application!!02:42
eduping NETBIOS_HOSTNAME does not work... solution?02:42
Ademananyone here used gparted to partition raid drives?02:43
eduping HOST_IP works fine...02:43
elieany 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672702:43
edu!netbios02:43
ubotuI know nothing about netbios02:43
edu!dns02:43
ubotuI know nothing about dns02:43
edu!hostname02:43
ubotuUse hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly02:43
bimberiedu: entry in /etc/hosts ?02:43
edubimberi: ok, thanks...02:44
elieany 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672702:44
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bimberielie: is the libogg0 package installed? if not try that02:48
Kr4t05Ok, how do I search my computer for files and folders?02:48
bimberiedu: np :)02:48
elieyes it is02:48
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fiyawerxcan you make konversation have a transparent background?02:49
drizwooooot02:50
bimberielie: hm, how about libvorbis-dev (which includes the file usr/lib/libvorbis.so)02:50
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fiyawerx_fiyawerx_, test02:53
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Fiyawerxhmm, xchat's pretty nice02:53
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elieyup i have it bimberdi02:54
bimberisorry elide, i'm out of ideas then :/02:55
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eliebimberdi,i chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared..02:58
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Tallia1Kubuntu (award)02:59
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eliebimberdi,i chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared..03:01
Tallia1Kubuntuguys, what's freenode?03:01
Tallia1Kubuntui mean, what is his philosophy..03:02
elknof1hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)03:04
eliei chkd in usr/lib/libvorbis.so and i found a link 4 it from shared03:04
Leiraafter failed burning alternate CD 3 times, i tryed net install last night. i downloaeded the hd-media's vmlinuz and netboot's initrd.gz, and use grub to load, with a kernel parameter preseed/file point to the kubuntu.seed file.03:05
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Leirabut after install, i got an ubuntu, rather than kubuntu03:06
Leirait seems the preseed/file line did not effective03:07
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elieany 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672703:08
almiroiii03:09
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sword-whats up03:10
sword-whats a good program to create iso images with?03:10
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elknof1hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)03:11
erovmkisofs03:11
elieany 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672703:11
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erovelie: have you verified the library is there and/or symbolic links03:16
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elieerov:i founda link in /usr/lib(libvorbis.so) link target:/usr/lib/libvorbis.so.0.3.103:18
erovwhat about libogg thats the one it claims it cant find..03:19
altprsonahi, im using kubuntu , trying to get my cam to work w/ kopete. in the configure menu i see a picture, i just dont see how to send a veiw my camera invite03:19
eliewill see 1 min03:20
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eliek,i found it,its a link 2 :/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.303:21
erovand is linked to libogg.so right03:21
erovlibogg.so.003:21
eliethink so] 03:22
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erovhave you run 'sudo ldconfig' since all of this03:22
elienop will try it now thnx03:22
eliename:libogg.so.0 link target:/usr/lib/libogg.so.0.5.303:24
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erovhow'd this happen anyways and what are you trying to run03:24
eliea game03:25
Tallia1Kubuntualtprsona: mhh?03:25
elieserious sam03:25
Tallia1Kubuntualtprsona: chat -> Contacts -> CONTACT -> send webcam03:25
altprsonatallia, its not there03:26
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat is not there03:26
altprsonaTallia1Kubuntu altprsona: chat -> Contacts -> CONTACT -> send webcam03:26
erovmaybe serious sam is loooking for a link in /usr/local/lib or some other lib directory03:27
Tallia1Kubuntuok, open a MSN chat03:27
Tallia1Kubuntuwith a person, then in that window there's the chat menu entry03:27
erovtry adding sym links there as well or configuring the other lib directories.. i don't know03:27
Tallia1Kubuntualtprsona: did you find it?03:27
altprsonai found it for msn, but not in contacts > contacts03:28
altprsonai dont see it for yahoo03:28
Tallia1Kubuntuoh03:28
elieis it normal that therz only 3 foleders in usrr/local/lib03:28
Tallia1Kubuntumaybe simply they didn't implemented it !!03:28
altprsonadrat03:28
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altprsonatheres a request webcam03:29
altprsonabut not a send03:29
sotiredits like as soon as i get one thing wroking...something else brakes03:29
Tallia1Kubuntuyeah..03:29
Tallia1Kubuntuthat could be poissible03:29
erovsometimes.. but a try it it can't hurt, elie03:29
sotiredmy sound suddenly has stopped working and ive tried alot of things...nothing03:30
Tallia1Kubuntualtprsona: why don't you ask details in Kopete03:30
sotiredseems like tis using my onboard instead of pci soundcard03:30
crimsunsotired: have I helped you already?03:30
sotiredpossibly03:30
sotiredlol03:30
crimsunas in yesterday?03:30
eliei just creat a link of serioussam in usrr/local/lib ?03:30
sotiredno03:30
crimsunok, proceed03:30
sotiredmy sound just stopped working, after a crash03:30
crimsunsotired: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''03:30
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Leiraafter failed burning alternate CD 3 times, i tryed net install last night. i downloaeded the hd-media's vmlinuz and netboot's initrd.gz, and use grub to load, with a kernel parameter preseed/file point to the kubuntu.seed file. but after install, i got an ubuntu, rather than kubuntu.  it seems the preseed/file line did not effective. how can i know what preseed currently used, in the early stage of installation?03:31
sotiredis there like a device manager in here somewhere?03:31
altprsonaty for the help03:31
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elieerov: i just creat a link of serioussam in usr/local/lib ?03:32
sotiredwhat is pastebin03:32
erovno03:32
eliea link of what?03:32
erovcreate the libogg.so.0 link etc. there to the appropriate libs03:32
eliek will try it thnx again03:33
erovit may be searching there instead or some other lib directory for the libs03:33
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erovsince it's a binary you cant tell i guess03:33
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erovive had the trouble with some linux games before03:33
erovthats what happens with no standards :P03:33
sotiredcrimsun: i dont understand03:33
crimsun!paste03:34
elie:-)03:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:34
crimsunsotired: ^ that03:34
sotiredthank you :)03:34
sotiredhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1672903:36
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sotiredthe cmedia is the one i want to be using03:36
sotiredit was working before03:36
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crimsunoh03:37
crimsunthat's pretty simple to resolve03:37
crimsunthe index changed03:37
crimsunyour onboard is now the default03:37
crimsunall you need to do is type (in a Konsole): asoundconf set-default-card CMI8738MC603:38
crimsunthen log out of KDE and back in03:38
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sotiredok...ill try it now03:39
sotiredthanks crimsun03:39
linuxmonkeycrimsun: you know how to map my windows key to bring up kmenu? without using keytouch03:39
sotiredill be back and let u know if it works03:39
sotiredoooh03:39
sotiredi didnt even have to restart03:40
sotiredthank you. any idea what woul have caused that to happen?03:40
crimsunsotired: it's just the way things are.03:40
sotiredi see03:40
sotiredhave a good evening03:40
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crimsunsotired: you can't easily enforce pci dev init order03:40
Frederickdoes anyone know any master system emulator for linux?03:40
Kingbuzzois there a way to setup grub to boot either suse, windows, and kubuntu as choices?03:40
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KingbuzzoFrederick: SMSPLUS03:41
eliei want 2 creat a shortcut in usr/local/lib and it tellz me no permission??03:41
andersje2elie: preface your command with 'sudo'03:42
FrederickKingbuzzo, isnt it windows only?03:42
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Kingbuzzohuh?03:43
eliewhat is the command 2 creat a shortcut?03:43
andersje2ln03:43
FrederickKingbuzzo, I want a emulator for linux03:43
andersje2elie: what exactly are you trying to do?03:43
Kingbuzzoya it's linux03:43
andersje2Frederick: try wine03:43
andersje2frederick: sorry, try usermode linux03:43
Kingbuzzoit was ported to dreamcast as well03:43
eliemaking a link of libogg.so.0 in usrr/local/lib03:44
eliemaking a link of libogg.so.0 in usr/local/lib03:44
Frederickandersje2, ?03:44
andersje2ln -s /usr/local/lib/libogg.so.0 /wherever/new/link/linkname.so03:44
andersje2stick sudo in front of the whole bunch if you have to, elie:03:45
eliek will try it thnx03:45
andersje2frederick: usermode linux lets you run an entire system under your main linux system03:45
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andersje2frederick: oh, wait, I didn't see the whole question.  You're trying to run a game under linux?  What game, and for what architecture?03:47
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Frederickandersje2, I want a master system emulator for linux03:48
Fiyawerxtest03:50
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Fiyawerxcan you make a transparent background in konversation? or just xchat03:50
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Frederickbah they have emulator for all but master system03:51
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h3sp4wnFrederick: Try Osmose03:53
andersje2what's a master system?03:53
Kingbuzzoyikes....03:53
Kingbuzzowhere were you in the 90's03:53
KingbuzzoI mean03:53
Kingbuzzo80's03:53
andersje2I had an Apple ] [ then.03:53
andersje2nite all03:54
Kingbuzzothe sega master system preceeded the mega drive03:54
Kingbuzzough03:54
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Frederick90's please03:55
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h3sp4wnBut did you ever complete phantasy star ?03:56
KingbuzzoI got stuck in a dungeon and that was is03:56
Kingbuzzoit^03:56
francesjanhello, i wanted to print to a Win2k server with HP3744 printer... i can see the printjob but the job won't go through the printer. :( ?03:56
Frederickh3sp4wn, it isnt in apt =/03:56
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fiyawerxtest03:58
h3sp4wnFrederick: There is loads you just need to compile them03:59
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Frederickh3sp4wn, I wanna a static linked zip :p03:59
h3sp4wnFrederick: You are not getting it from me03:59
linuxmonkey!skype04:00
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto04:00
Frederick!money04:00
ubotuI know nothing about money04:00
eliewhat is LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded04:01
Kingbuzzo!xmame04:01
ubotuI know nothing about xmame04:01
Kingbuzzo!raine04:01
ubotuI know nothing about raine04:01
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Kingbuzzo!ardour04:01
ubotuI know nothing about ardour04:01
Kingbuzzo!hydrogen04:01
ubotuI know nothing about hydrogen04:01
Kingbuzzogah04:01
elieany1 tried the new ati driverz?04:01
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Frederickname a mastersystem game04:02
Frederickoki altered beast04:03
fiyawerxhmm, do you guys like xchat or konversation better?04:03
FrederickI will leave social life04:03
CornelliusWhat's the easiest way to install Reiser4 on Ubuntu ?04:03
Hawkwindfiyawerx: I prefer Xchat simply because I've helped do somethings with it over the years04:04
crimsunCornellius: I'm pretty sure I answered that yesterday04:04
fiyawerxHawkwind, nice, i kinda like it, messing around with the transparent backgrounds now, but not sure if i like them, messing with font colors04:04
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Cornelliuscrimsun: Maybe, but I was on another computer so I don,t have the logs.04:05
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fiyawerxtest04:13
erovwolf et time :p see y'all later ;)04:14
HawkwindFailed04:14
fiyawerxhehe04:14
fiyawerxweird, i changed my konversation colors around and every other name on my list is missing04:14
fiyawerxi can't stand looking at black text on white backgrounds04:14
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h3sp4wnfiyawerx: Do you know of a kde theme that uses mostly black and grey ?04:15
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fiyawerxh3sp4wn: nope, kinda been configuring things myself for now04:15
fiyawerxh3sp4wn: app by app04:15
h3sp4wnfiyawerx: I am using the next colours04:15
h3sp4wnfiyawerx: But I want a grey instead of white background04:16
fiyawerxh3sp4wn: i didn't even think of doing the theme thing hehe04:16
fiyawerxh3sp4wn: will look around and let you know if i come up with anything04:16
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h3sp4wnfiyawerx: I need to sleep immediately (so I can't look now)04:17
fiyawerxh3sp4wn: no problem, i'll be up all night :)04:17
elieany1 got serious sam?04:17
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h3sp4wnfiyawerx: Its 3:18 am here which is early for me by recent standards04:18
fiyawerx:)04:18
HawkwindDoes Kubuntu run a firewall by default ?04:18
claydohno, Hawkwind04:19
claydohbut it does not have any open ports by default iirc04:19
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Hawkwindclaydoh: If it runs no firewall then ports would be handled by my router, correct04:20
claydohyup04:20
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Hawkwindclaydoh: I'm trying to run bittorrent and it tells me that port 6881 is blacklisted.  Yet I have that port open in my router04:28
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fiyawerxdo you have your router forwarding the port to your machine? or just not blocked04:29
claydohit may take a few moments, have you stopped/restarted bittorren?04:29
Hawkwindfiyawerx: It's open and forwarded to this machine04:29
Hawkwindclaydoh: Even the site tells me I'm not connectable :(04:30
claydohya, what fiyawerx  said :)04:30
claydohon my linsys wired router it always took a few moments04:31
fiyawerxI just put myself in the dmz with my router04:31
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fiyawerxclaydoh: same with dlink wireless04:31
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HawkwindThis worked fine in Mandriva a few days ago.  I've changed nothing except my OS04:31
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claydohI y=turned on upnp in my router and use ktorrent, which opens the ports automagically04:31
os2machas anyone installed on an inpspiron 8600 and had problems with the wireless nic (it's a broadcom nic)04:32
fiyawerxtoo bad ktorrent doesn't run as a daemon04:32
fiyawerxoh, ncie04:32
fiyawerxnice rather04:32
claydohya :)04:32
fiyawerxnever had much luck with upnp, might give it a shot, i need to upgrade my router firmware as it is04:32
fiyawerxi do static ip, so all i really need to forward is 22 as far as I know so i can SSH / !M in from work04:33
os2macanyone?04:33
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claydohos2mac: afaik *lots* of folks have probs with broadcom04:34
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Hawkwindclaydoh: Even ktorrent won't download anything :(04:35
claydoh:(04:35
HawkwindSomething within Kubuntu is blocking it or not allowing it04:35
os2macclaydoh... usually I have to use ndiswrapper...but when I installed the new ver it actually detected the nic as eth1 this time.... but won't let me configure it.04:35
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yurwhat is a good firewall 4 linux?04:35
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Hawkwindyur: IpKungFu04:35
yurthat xist lol,thnx04:36
jasonhow do i mount a new hard drive that i just installed?04:36
Hawkwindclaydoh: Any ideas what could be stopping this ?04:36
claydohno, not really04:37
larson9999Hawkwind: don't know this helps but as you know i switched from mandriva recently on this box and like you have only changed my OS.  but ktorrent works just fine for me04:37
claydohin ktorrent, if your router has upnp enabled, there is a plugin for it in ktorrent's settinngs04:37
Hawkwindclaydoh: In fact, I've opened up ports 8000 - 9000 and still says I'm not connectable04:37
Hawkwindclaydoh: I have a Linksys WRT54G router04:38
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yurHawKind:i nstalled ipkungfu but cant find it?04:39
claydohI dunno, sorry never had issues with  bittorrent once i got the ports sset up04:39
os2macsurely someone has resolved this by now....04:40
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os2macI have checked the kbuntu forums and nothing.04:40
claydohut it did take a bit to see the changes take effect04:40
fiyawerxdoh, ktorrent closes when you X it doesn't it04:40
fiyawerxhmm04:40
claydohnot if you enablr the taskbar icon04:41
fiyawerxif i used a console bittorrent client, i could nohup it and let it run after i closed my session right?04:41
HawkwindStrange.  Absolutely nothing has changed on this system except for my OS from Mandriva to Kubuntu and I can't download anything via bittorrent or any other torrent client04:41
yurHawKind:i nstalled ipkungfu but cant find it?04:41
fiyawerxHawkwind: installed any firewalls with Ubuntu?04:41
fiyawerxHawkwind: you sure your dhcp lease didn't expire and your router is forwarding to the wrong machine?04:42
TheHighChildos2mac pastebin your ifconfig04:42
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robotgeekfiyawerx: use screen04:42
fiyawerxrobotgeek: oh, right :)04:42
mcrandellothe "menu" package doesn't really do anything does it?04:42
fiyawerxrobotgeek: any suggestion on a good console bt client?04:42
os2macHighChild do you want ifconfig -a?04:43
robotgeekfiyawerx: btdownloadcurses.py04:43
Hawkwindfiyawerx: No firewalls.  The ports have been forwarded for years.  I use internal static04:43
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claydohodd04:43
mcrandellodoes anyone know the package that provides the "debian" menu? I can't seem to find it anymore04:43
TheHighChildos2mac: Either is fine04:44
robotgeekmenu-xdg maybe? mcrandello04:44
os2macstand by... I am trying to configure it with iwconfig.... that plus I can04:44
os2mac't have both nic's active at the same time04:44
mcrandellorobotgeek: I already have that one installed04:45
mcrandellooh wait it's on there04:45
TheHighChildos2mac: ok man. I'm not a pro at wireless, recently got my own running. Sometimes I have to do 'sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup ath0' and then it'll git'r'dun04:45
mcrandellothey changed where they put the debian menu at some point04:45
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claydohmenu is located in Universe04:46
claydohhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/admin/menu04:46
fiyawerxrobotgeek: thats bittornado?04:48
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robotgeekfiyawerx: i think so. lemme look deeper04:48
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moruanhelp~~~something about coreutils04:49
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robotgeekfiyawerx: i think so04:50
fiyawerxyep, looks like i got it, apt-got bittornado and now its there, will try it out, thanks04:50
fiyawerxrobotgeek: thanks04:50
moruanhow to upgrade coretils ???????? ~~~~~~~~ in a hurry04:51
robotgeekmoruan: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?04:51
moruanapt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work04:52
robotgeekmoruan: what is the exact issue you are facing?04:52
mcrandello!mp304:52
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:52
moruanwhen i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed04:53
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moruanhow to solve this kind of problem ? does anyone know something about it04:53
robotgeekmoruan: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed?04:54
moruanno i have gtk-desktop installed04:54
arcturus!windows04:55
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm04:55
moruani have gnome-desktop installed04:55
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moruanhow to remove the former coreutils ? i know nothing about kernel , so ~~~ any information is appriciated04:56
robotgeekmoruan: have ubuntu-desktop installed, and do the upgrade. it should happen smoothly then04:56
moruanit doesn't work smooth to me04:57
robotgeekdo you have it installed? what is the specific error you are getting, please paste it04:58
moruanthe infromation released by the system is : dpkg , predepends : coreutils ( >= 5.93-1) but 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 is installed04:58
moruanand apt-get install -f doesn't work either04:59
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robotgeekmoruan: might ask in #ubuntu, i am lost05:01
mcrandelloanyone know how to make xmms play mp3's if it won't even after installing xmms-mad?05:01
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moruano~ , i make a try05:01
OODxmms should play mp3's by default05:02
dr_willis'do not try, do, young jedi'05:02
dr_willis:)05:02
dr_willisThe source is strong with this one.05:02
mcrandelloit doesn't ;_;05:02
larson9999OOD: isn't there something illegal about that?05:02
OODweird o.o05:02
OODno, why?05:03
mcrandellolarson9999: depends on where you are, doesn't it?05:03
OODthat too05:03
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larson9999mcrandello: i think so.  so by default seems to be not the way to go05:03
mcrandelloright05:03
dr_willisi dodent think it did.05:04
dr_willisbut i install all sorts of packages so not sure how the default is05:04
mcrandello!xmms05:04
ubotuAudio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs05:04
larson9999i don't worry much about those pesky licenses on my personal machine though05:04
OODwho does ;)05:05
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dr_willisi tend to not worry agbout them at all. :P05:05
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dr_willisBill Gates05:05
dr_willis:P05:05
sotiredhow can i tell if my nvidia drivers are correctly installed? i have a geforce fx5500 and even screen savers have a painfully low framerate05:06
OODyea just installed xmms, mp3's play by default05:06
arcturusmcrandello: type xmms from console05:06
OODsotired: run glxgears05:06
sotiredok05:06
sotiredthankyou05:06
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mcrandelloarcturus: done05:06
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OODsotired: if it's slow, then you don't have driver05:06
arcturusmcrandello:  error message?05:06
larson9999sotired: yeah even though people will tell you glxgears isn't a good test, it's good enough :)05:07
OODyep05:07
sotireddidnt work05:07
sotirederror05:07
larson9999sotired: or if you get an error05:07
OODthen you don't have it05:07
mcrandelloarcturus: It can't find libmikmod05:07
mcrandelloweird though, it worked from the console05:07
OODdo this: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx05:07
larson9999sotired: i have an fx5500 too so you shouldn't have too much trouble getting it to work05:07
OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig05:07
OODand restart X05:07
arcturusmcrandello:  looks like part of the smoking gun05:08
OODrestart X isn't a command btw05:08
dr_willis'and restart X' command not found. :P05:08
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TheHighChildOOD what does nvidia-xconfig do?05:08
larson9999sotired: this site talkes you through it http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371305:09
OODit sets your xorg.conf to use the nvidia driver05:09
OODso no manual xorg.conf editing :P05:09
TheHighChildIs that different than 'nvidia-glx-config enable'?05:09
sotiredwhen i type sudo apt-get nvidia-glx its says invalid operation05:09
arcturus00D: how do you pull fps running glxgears?05:09
TheHighChildapt-get install sotired05:09
OODsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx05:10
arcturusterminal shows no fps info05:10
larson9999sortired need an install in there.  check that site it has commands you can just cut and paste05:10
OODsorry forgot the install part :)05:10
dr_willis!glxgears05:10
ubotuTo display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.05:10
arcturusthanks doc05:10
moparisthebesthmm, I wonder if any of you can help me, for no obbbbbbbbvious reason at all and at seemingly random times and with different keys and differeeeeeeeeent programs i get repeating letters05:10
moparisthebestits not my keyboard and im not hoooooooolding the key too long05:10
TheHighChildOOD:  We all do, how is that 'nvidia-xconfig' different than 'nvidia-glx-config enable' or is tehre none?05:10
sotiredok...ill restart x and see how it worked05:11
larson9999moparisthebest: i was having the same problem a couple weeks ago.05:11
moparisthebestI even reinstalled it yesterday and it worked fine all day yesterday05:11
OODsotired wait05:11
moparisthebestnow its messed up again, how did you fix it larson9999 ?05:11
sotiredok05:11
arcturuslol, 10,500 fps on my system :)05:11
OODif you don't get anything at all and your X is screwed05:11
arcturusguess the 7600GT isn't a bad card05:11
sotiredi did it and it downloaded the driver05:11
mcrandellookay, so xmms _does_ play mp3's. Anyone know how to make kde get xmms to open them?05:11
OODthen press ctrl+alt+F105:12
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OODto do a command line login05:12
larson9999moparisthebest: i don't really know i did.  i was also noticing some slow downs and did a top and saw all sorts of crap running i didn't need.  uninstalled a bunch of them and things have been ok ever since05:12
mcrandelloI set xmms as the default, when I click on the file xmms opens with the file but does not play it. Pressing play does nothing at all05:12
sotiredok...i just did it and cam back. hitting f7..how do i do a command line log on?05:12
TheHighChildsotired 'sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-6-28-06' that will backup your xorg.conf in case you need to restore it05:12
OODwait05:12
sotiredok :005:12
sotired:)05:13
OODthis is a 'just in case thing'05:13
OODif kde doesn't start because of a failed nvidia install05:13
sotiredan 'oh shit' plan?05:13
moparisthebestlarson9999, problem        is Im new with linux and I dont know what I NEED running and what I dont05:13
arcturusmcrandello:  and if you right click, then open with xmms the same behavior?05:13
OODyea lol05:13
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OODk then do : sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:13
mcrandelloarcturus: yep05:13
OODand everything wil be back to normal next reboot05:13
sotiredso i should type that in console or the command line?05:14
sotired*konsole05:14
arcturusmcrandello:  have you uninstalled, then reinstalled xmms with syaptic?05:14
larson9999moparisthebest: sorry i didn't take better notes but i really don't know what the problem was.  i just know i'd hit space and it'd type 5 of them05:14
TheHighChildood why not have him cp his backup xorg? The reconfigure might confuse him a bit05:14
mcrandelloarcturus: with apt-get from the command line05:14
sotiredim not a monkey....05:14
moparisthebestyep, thats the problem im having crappppppp :(05:14
sotired:-P05:14
OODTheHighChild: eh true05:14
arcturusmcrandello: ok05:14
OODbackups are annoying tho :P05:14
OODi find it easier to just type that command up instead of copying fikes05:15
OODfiles*05:15
sotiredmoments like this make me know being microsoft certified means nothing05:15
arcturusmcrandello: running from liveCD results in same behavior?05:15
dr_willismicrosoft certified = you paid your $$ for resume padding.05:15
TheHighChildOOD: easier to reconfigure your xserver than cp a file? LOL, that's a new one.05:15
dr_willisLO05:16
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mcrandelloarcturus: haven't tried from the livecd05:16
sotiredbasically..05:16
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cfreirehello everybody...05:16
larson9999sotired: if you follow instructions and things still don't work you might have an issue that me and others have had with dapper.  that is that it thinks your card is and intel something or other.  you can check that by doing an lsmod.05:16
sotiredgot laid off anyway...goign back to college for comp sci05:16
TheHighChildSame thing with Red Hat certs.05:16
arcturusmcrandello: this happened to me once but forgot the solution ... if there was one05:16
OODlol, you get too many backups with installing drivers, i got about 6 of them now05:16
cfreiresomebody can help me with pxe install, please.05:16
OODkinda useless isn't it?05:17
sotiredim not worried about back ups..if its fried i can live with it05:17
sotiredi can just re-install05:17
sotiredso should i just restart and see what happens05:17
OODk so sotired: restart X, if it doesn't work you'll get a blank screen with a logo05:17
sotiredi like to live on the edge05:17
sotiredok...ill be back...i hope05:18
larson9999unless you change more than the normal stuff, i don't see much benefit in backing up xorg.conf.  other than it's good practice :)05:18
OODthen press ctr+alt+f1 for a command line login05:18
sotiredhow do  i log in form the command line05:18
mcrandelloarcturus: at least I can D&D on top of it05:18
sotiredjust type kdm?05:18
mcrandellosotired: <ctrl><alt><F1> then use your user/pass same as in the graphical setup05:18
OODno you'll automatically be asked for username hten passowrd05:18
sotiredok05:18
OODand then you'll be at the command line05:19
OODthen just do: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg05:19
OODand everything will be back to normal05:19
bonbonthejonwhat does -phigh do05:19
OODi actually don't know :P05:19
OODjust that it works :D05:19
OODsotired: you set?05:20
sotiredim a little confused...why am i doing that last part?05:20
sotiredyeh i logged in05:20
OODthat's if when you restart X and your driver doesn't work and you get a blank screen with a logo05:20
sotiredoh ok05:20
OODit's just in case things go wrong05:20
sotiredbe right back05:21
OODk05:21
OODlet's hope he comes back :D05:21
larson9999sometimes you don't get the logo.  at least i don't05:21
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OODyou just get a black screen?05:21
larson9999OOD: sometimes05:21
sotiredno...i hit log out_>end session and then i logged back in05:22
sotiredeverything looks normal05:22
sotiredso i guess it worked05:22
OODyou have to press one of the buttons and click restart X05:22
OODbefore you log back in05:22
larson9999sotired: got to run something glx to be sure, too05:22
OODnothing happened yet05:22
OODhe didnt restart X05:23
larson9999yeah05:23
larson9999that's the reason for the too05:23
mcrandelloglxinfo -printfps05:23
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sotiredok i did restart x server05:23
sotiredit worked...screen saver loks normal05:23
sotiredthank you very much05:24
OODyou got an nvidia logo at start?05:24
sotiredno...05:24
larson9999then it didn't work05:24
sotiredbut my framerates are better05:24
sotireddamnit05:24
OODlol05:24
sotiredgive me logog or give me death05:24
larson9999unless you disabled the logo05:24
OODwait you don't get the nvidia logo unless you reboot i beleive05:24
sotiredi tired gglx gears again and ive got gears05:25
OODso everything should be fine05:25
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bonbonthejonwhere can I set up for my volume up and down buttons to work in KDE05:25
mcrandellomaybe -phigh disables the logo05:25
larson9999oh, then it did05:25
mcrandello;P05:25
OODno it doesnt05:25
sotiredw00t05:25
sotiredim l33t cuz i have drivers05:25
OODworks fine if everything is working05:25
sotiredsorry...i had too05:25
OODlol05:25
sotiredthanks again05:25
OODnp :)05:25
sotiredhave a good evening05:25
mcrandelloI think I finally got drivers too now. I had to wait for the 8.26.18 ATI drivers and then reinstall05:25
cfreirehello...05:25
OODhey05:26
mcrandelloyou're lucky if you have nvidia05:26
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OODyep :D05:26
bonbonthejonanyone? where can I set up for my volume up and down buttons to work in KDE?05:26
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larson9999mcrandello: i was going to ask if ati is good enough to think about buying one... guess not.05:26
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mcrandelloalso I'm afraid to update the thing now for fear the freezing will come back05:26
OODlol, yea ati's a lot of trouble right now05:26
mcrandellolarson9999: they're great cards, the drivers, not so much. At least they seem to be trying05:26
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jinhohi i installed apache, mysql, and php on my system yesterday, but today I can't boot up into kubuntu- is there a way to uninstall these three to try to get the system runnign again?05:27
arcturusbonbon: what volume up & down buttons?05:27
cfreiretalk about pxe install, please...05:27
mcrandelloof course this is a 200m on a laptop so ymmv05:27
bonbonthejonarc: on an hp laptop05:27
OODjinho: you can't boot in anymore?05:27
larson9999mcrandello: i tried an nvidia and ati years ago(2000?) and nvidia was the only one i got working so i haven't tried ati since05:27
jinhoOOD: the OS wont load- I get a blank screen when I should be getting the blue Kubuntu loader05:27
larson9999but from what i read ati does seem to be trying more05:28
mcrandellolarson9999: I remember when ATI was the card to get for linux (the mach64 era)05:28
jinhoOOD: when I go into safe mode, I can do the command line stuff, but I cant get back into the GUI by exit05:28
OODjinho: try pressing ctrol+alt+f1 for a command line login05:28
mcrandellobonbonthejon: you mean the "Fn" key combo for the volume?05:28
larson9999mccrandle yeah. i think i had s3 until 200005:28
OODthen try uninstalling the programs with apt-get05:28
arcturusbonbon: possibly a key bindings thing05:28
jinhoOOD: I tried apt-get remove mysql05:29
bonbonthejonmcran, no there are small buttons on the side for vol up and down and mute05:29
jinhoand it said it wasnt installed...05:29
jinhobut I did install it yesterday05:29
jinhowich is so weird05:29
bonbonthejonarc, where do I do a key binding05:29
OODjinho: wierd, and this is from php\mysql\apache? i.005:30
larson9999Hawkwind: get bittorrent working?05:30
jinhoOOD: at this point that's what I think since those are the last things I did05:30
arcturusbonbon: uncertain, maybe a 'key binding kde' google query05:30
jinhoOOD: I also tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but no luck05:30
bonbonthejonarc, I found how to do it, but when I try pushing the button for kde to recognize it, I get nothing05:31
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Hawkwindlarson9999: No.  But I managed to get ktorrent working for a couple of sites.  Not the one I really want it to work with05:31
larson9999Hawkwind: got a link i could try?05:32
Hawkwindlarson9999: Ummm, it's invite only05:32
HawkwindHeh05:32
mcrandellobonbonthejon: this may help http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/04/mapping-unsupported-keys-with-xmodmap.html05:32
OODjinho: hmm, try logging in through the command line and do startx, it'll tell you at the end what the problem might be05:32
larson9999time to make the doughnuts05:32
jinhoso do CTRL ALT F105:32
jinhothen log in05:32
mcrandellobonbonthejon: it's a bit dense but if xev will recognize the buttons there's a chance it will work05:33
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jinhoand type startx?05:33
bonbonthejonmcran, thanks, i'll look into it05:33
cfreirehola. alguien escribe en espaol?05:33
mcrandellobonbonthejon: I actually need to figure out my Fn keys on the toshiba05:33
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OODyes, that's the command to start X, it;ll give you feedback on what the problem might be05:33
bonbonthejonmcran, guess we're in the same boat05:33
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arcturuslol, seems everyone runs laptops these days05:34
jinhokk05:34
OODi don't :D05:34
jinhobrb05:34
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arcturusme neither :)05:34
arcturusless trouble05:34
bonbonthejonnight all05:34
mcrandellolater, good luch05:35
mcrandelloluck05:35
OODalthough a new screen would be nice, my crt replaces my heater :(05:35
cfreirehola, hola...05:35
macdhow is it traceroute isnt installed by default on kubuntu05:37
macdteh quirks they're killing me05:37
TheHighChildLaptops are great! Who wants to drink a beer siting in their 90 degree computer room? I'd rather smoke one and have a few beers with my dog on my hammock05:37
mcrandelloI miss the heat output, sitting in a 67F server operations room05:38
TheHighChildmcrandello: ditto here, cept we're at 6905:38
TheHighChildgetting some new edpacs this month, prolly push it to around 6005:38
crimsunmacd: tracepath is05:39
macdwe hover ~6205:39
mcrandelloat least we haven't gotten rid of the as/400's dumb term05:39
macdyes@tracepath, but I dont know these "new" things ;P05:39
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arcturusmacd: kmenu > system > network tools05:39
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crimsunmacd: then install traceroute{,-nanog} ;)05:39
macdoh yes, I did05:39
jinhoODD: this is very strange05:39
jinhoODD: I'm in kubuntu now, but I seem to be using a restricted version...05:40
OODyou got in?05:40
jinhoyeah05:40
TheHighChildmcrandello: Are you an operator or just working in the MR?05:40
jinhobut this is definately different from how it normally is05:40
OODso something's not right with the startup05:40
OODhow's it restricted?05:40
jinhoi guess not05:40
jinhowell for starters my home folder is all different05:40
mcrandelloTheHighChild: lowly pfy05:40
OODi think you got in as root05:41
TheHighChildmcrandello: pfy?05:41
arcturusnetwork tools has ping, netstat, traceroute, port scan ...05:41
jinhoah you're right05:41
jinholol05:41
OODhow though lol?05:41
jinhoi dunno05:41
mcrandellopimply faced youth, as opposed to bofh05:41
OODyou logged in as root at the command line?05:41
mcrandellobastard operator from hell05:41
jinhoi went in through recovery mode cuz that was the only way the system was responding05:41
mcrandelloI just make sure nothing blows up :)05:42
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jinhoOOD: ctrl alt f1 will let me sign in as my account?05:42
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mcrandellojinho: yes05:42
OODit should've when you got that bkacl screen05:42
flakegood evening05:42
TheHighChildmcrandello: Gotcha, I'm an Op. Glorified tape monkey. About my only saving grace is the name I work for. It's a crap job but it looks spank on a resume05:42
OODyou don't need to boot off the cd to do ctr+alt+f105:42
pussfelleranyone got that new skype working? I can test the sounds in the configure page, and I hear a bit of ringing, but then it sez problem with sound device05:43
mcrandelloworking for the florida state university system. Not much for the resume but free classes+job security :)05:43
OODpussfeller: yes, it sucks though :(05:43
OODthe only new thing is alsa support05:43
TheHighChildmcrandello: Carnegie Mellon University, School of Computer Science over here. Secure, yes, classes yes, satisfaction, not a drop05:43
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nixternal!multiverse05:44
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:44
pussfellerOOD: i keep getting sound problems still tho05:44
pussfellerand call failed, i dont get it05:44
OODwell it is beta05:44
pussfellerALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:762:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream05:45
mcrandellonight all!05:45
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jinhoOOD: lol so weird, it worked now05:46
OODo___005:46
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jinhoi love kubuntu, but sometimes i just get so confused by it05:46
flakesame here05:47
OODyea there's a learning curve, you get the hang of it after a while :)05:47
Kr4t05jinho, just be patient, and you'll be learning it in no time.05:48
Kr4t05:)05:48
flakeso far I learned how to mount my ntfs drives as read only, and can run a few windoze programs using wine05:50
jinhoflake: which programs are these?05:51
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flakei installed wine and can now run a few windows programs05:51
TheHighChildjinho: Personally I have Dreamweaver and Picasa running through Wine05:51
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jinhoTheHighChild: Dreamweaver 8?05:52
flakeused the package manager to install wine05:52
TheHighChildjinho: No, MX05:52
jinhoTheHighChild: Do you have flash installed as well by chance?05:52
TheHighChildjinho: No, I haven't tried it.05:52
flakei'm having problems with flash 8+, can't see the quake et site05:52
jinhohow's the speed compared to windows?05:53
flakei tried installing via the opera and firefox too05:53
jinhoflake: what do you mean quake et site?05:53
TheHighChildjinho: honestly, I would suggest looking into Crossover Office, its better and easier than Wine05:53
flakeyes05:53
TheHighChildis there flash 8 support for tux yet?05:53
TheHighChildprobably ET Quake Wars05:53
flakeright05:53
TheHighChildflake: As far as I know (isn't much) flash 8 isn't supported on Tux yet05:54
flakethe next two to three missing years of where my life will go05:54
TheHighChildflake: You play ET?05:54
flakeyes, i have been for a few years05:54
flakehave alot of other stuff but always come back to et05:55
TheHighChildflake: Look me up on the LOA and Shiat-Storm servers sometime05:55
flakeok, you gave me the SS link the other night I think05:55
flakei tried the insane ip but it was empty, it was late too05:55
TheHighChildflake: That is our flagship server but it's been empty because we've been testing a new mod, no quarter. A few of my friends made it05:56
flakeok cool05:57
OOD*remembeer about et and goes to download*05:57
moparisthebesthas anyone on here ever instttttttalled doom3 on kubuntu?05:57
OODremembers*05:57
TheHighChildOOD need a link?05:57
OODif you got a fast one sure, i can never find a good link :)05:57
TheHighChildood http://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/05:57
moparisthebestdoes anyone know how to install or fix opengl? ;p05:58
TheHighChildright click and save as05:58
moparisthebesta really fast link is this:05:58
moparisthebesthold on05:58
flakewould any windows with their dll directx9 run poorly here under wine compared to windows?05:58
OODopengl is with the nvidia driver05:58
moparisthebestit couldnt find it OOD05:58
OODif it's an opengl game it runs very well05:58
TheHighChildtake care guys, I'm out05:58
OODunreal 2004 works better in wine than the native version05:58
moparisthebesti installed some opengl things from adept05:58
flakesee you THC05:58
moparisthebestand now it cannnnnnnt open the X display05:58
TheHighChildOOD that file should download pretty fast ~1MBps05:58
moparisthebestw/e that mmmmmmmeans :(05:58
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OODTheHighChild: thanks05:59
moparisthebesthttp://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/05:59
moparisthebestthere OOD its a         torrent straight from id05:59
moparisthebest462 mb downloaded in 15 minutes for me05:59
jinhowhat is this torrent for?06:00
OODenemy territory06:00
OODwhoah fastest torrent ever06:00
jinhodemo?06:01
OODnvm it dropped to 150k :(06:01
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OODno the game is freeware06:02
flakeno et is full version06:02
flakedo the applets on my panel such as the clipboard, time, trashcan, and i added the terminal - take up alot of cpu resource or memory?  does it matter?06:04
jinhoo shit...gotta get me it06:04
jinholol06:04
jinhowhich one is this?06:04
flakeand while i'm playing ET, is there a hotkey i can hit to switch me to Desktop 2?06:04
OODflake: i've always wondered that, i miss being able to minimize a game the way you can in windows06:05
flakein windows tho, i've never been able to minimize et06:05
flakeonly pull up the task bar06:06
OODnot et, but other games06:06
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flakeright06:06
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jinhowait enemy territory is freeware?06:06
OODif you guys are into games then you should check this oen out: http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=about06:06
OODyes it is06:06
flakeyes, and it still rocks06:07
jinhohow exactly does this work?06:07
jinhosince when was ID into freeware?06:07
OODcheck the game i just posted a link too06:07
OODamazing game with a slight mix with rts on the q3 engine06:07
jinhohttp://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/enemyterritoryquakewars/screenindex.html06:07
jinhothis isnt the same thing though06:07
OODno this is quake wars06:08
jinholol06:08
OODthat's something different06:08
OODyea06:08
jinhoyeah ok my jaws were dropping when I thought this was the free thing06:08
OODheh06:08
jinhoyou mean enemy territory wolfenstein?06:08
OODenemy territory was supposed to be an expansion to castel wofenstein06:08
OODyea06:08
jinhoahh now it makes sense lol06:09
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moparisthebestwhen I try to install the latest nvidia driver, it says I       have to end the X server, hhhhhhhhow would I do that?06:09
jinhowill a radeon 9200 suffice for it?06:09
OODfor enemy territory? deffinitely06:09
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OODcheck this game out too:http://www.tremulous.net/index.php?section=about (yes i posted that link already :P)06:09
malubankudiany gentoo usrs in here?06:09
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: telinit 3 or /etc/init.d/kdm stop or something similar06:10
OODnope, mostly kubuntu :D06:10
OODctr+alt+backspace ?06:10
OODeasier then typing in the console06:10
HawkwindOOD: That will take him back to the GUI, then he could do it from there too, sure06:10
flaketremulous looks interesting06:11
bobstromoparisthebest: /etc/init.d/kdm restart will shut it down and restart but yeah, ctl-alt-delete does too06:11
HawkwindJust choose login into console from the GUI login screen06:11
OODctr+alt+backspace* not delete06:11
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bobstroer yeah :)06:11
HawkwindOOD: Right, that takes you back to the GUI login06:11
moparisthebestok, thanks, ill try and hopeuflly be back soon :P06:11
OODflake: that game's adictive :P it great06:11
HawkwindHobbsee: Good morning to ya :)06:11
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bobstroor if you've got the keys screwed up, shift-backspace :)06:11
Hawkwindbobstro: Heh06:11
OODHawkwind: it also restarts X which is the idea :)06:12
Hawkwindbobstro: Speaking from experience are ya ?06:12
bobstroHawkwind: finally fixed that one. somewhat annying.06:12
HawkwindOOD: He wants to KILL X not restart it :P06:12
bobstroHawkwind: yeah, not sure why, but i had to force the US keyboard.06:12
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bobstroHawkwind: thought he wanted to restart to see if the new driver worked?06:12
Hobbseehi Hawkwind06:12
OODhe's installign the nvidia driver, he want's to restart it :D06:12
Hawkwindbobstro: No.  He's wanting to install them06:12
bobstroHawkwind: ahm. i had no problem installing, then re-starting.06:12
HawkwindOOD: He's installing from nvidia.com I thought.  Maybe I misunderstood him06:12
bobstroHawkwind: i don't exactly see how stopping and then starting would be a lot different.06:13
OODHawkwind: hmm i think you're right06:13
HawkwindHobbsee: Hows life in Aussie land this morning06:13
Hawkwindbobstro: He needs to kill X, install the drivers from nvidia.com which require no X, then he can restart X after the install06:13
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HobbseeHawkwind: okay, didnt wake up that long ago, and it's 2pm06:13
OODyea06:13
HawkwindHobbsee: Slacker!06:13
Hawkwind:P06:13
OODwhy though, much easier with apt-get :D06:14
HawkwindOOD: Maybe he doesn't know the apt-get way.  Would be my guess06:14
HobbseeHawkwind: :P06:14
HobbseeHawkwind: AU/UK and AU/US timezones are terrible06:14
OODHawkwind: guess we shoulda told him :P06:14
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HawkwindOOD: Heh.  Probably so06:15
flakewhat is xgl?  isn't k3d just as well?06:15
bobstroHawkwind: i guess the windows way to would be to reboot.06:15
Hawkwindbobstro: Hah so true06:15
Hawkwindbobstro: Though now it seems there is a minimum of 10 reboots for anything you do in Windows06:16
Hawkwindflake: XGL and k3b are two totally different things06:16
bobstroonly if you use the mouse06:16
Hawkwindk3b is burning software, XGL is graphics stuff06:16
bobstroyeah, but which is better?06:16
OODlol, you cant compare them06:16
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OODtheyre apples and volcanoes06:16
kkathmanrofl06:16
HawkwindLOL06:17
flakebut if you throw the apple into the volcano they become as one06:17
bobstrosomeone should do a benchmarking article06:17
Hawkwindflake: No, the apples discentegrates actually06:17
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flakeso volcano is better than apple06:17
flakelol06:17
OODlol moments like there remind me of bash .org06:18
HawkwindOOD: Hah, I was thinking the same thing06:18
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HawkwindOOD: There he is, get him!06:21
HawkwindHeh06:21
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: Got nvidia working now ?06:21
OODlol06:21
HawkwindHmmm, no response.  Usually not a good sign06:22
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OODnah he's fine, probably enjoying his new 3D accelaration :P06:22
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdis there a gui utility to test overclocked cpu stability?06:23
HawkwindProbably got a game running full screen already06:23
moparisthebestno Hawkwind06:23
moparisthebestit said it couldnt find a driver for my kernel06:24
moparisthebestso it had to compile one06:24
moparisthebestbut i didnt have a c compiler installed yet i guess06:24
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: Why not apt-get the nvidia stuff ?06:24
OODtry compiling Wine, if it doesn't freeze while compiling then it's stable :D06:24
Hawkwind!nvidia06:24
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:24
HawkwindOOD: LOL.  Hell of a thing to suggest06:24
OODlol06:24
moparisthebesti guess i could do it the easy way with apt-get :P06:24
moparisthebesti guess im used to doing things the hard way06:25
moparisthebestjust came from windows a few days ago :p06:25
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: I was too when I ran Mandriva up til 5 days ago06:25
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdwell , i wish i could compile wine , but it doesnt want to compile under x6406:25
HawkwindI always installed the drivers from nvidia.com.  Now I use the Ubuntu pre-packaged stuff06:25
thompaok, I think everything is ok now.06:25
OODyea, just do sudo apt-get nvidia-glx06:25
OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig and you're done06:26
thompatouchpad has been only issue06:26
thompabut then its sony vaio which has worst linux support in history06:26
thompai can type tpoff and touchpad is off now06:27
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thompabut i dont know what happened to qsynaptics it was working06:28
flakehow do i run a .run file06:28
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OODwhere'd you get a .run file?06:28
flakei saved:   tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run   to my home folder06:28
OODoh ok06:28
Hawkwindflake: sh filename.run ?06:29
thompaksynaptics i think is not for xorg06:29
flakeahh06:29
OODsh ./ tremulous-1.1.0-installer.x86.run06:29
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HawkwindOr ./filename.run06:29
HawkwindThere are several ways06:29
OODyea06:29
OODif you get an old school installer after starting the installer then scroll up in the konsole06:29
thompahow do i play streaming audio without having to open real player first?06:30
OODit'll say that some package is missing, install it and then you'll get a regular installer06:30
flakethanks06:30
boingolovhaving a bit of trouble with wine:  I am using the ies4linux setup and I installed the shockwave player plugin for ie6.  once this has finished, it tells me I need to reboot.  I run wineboot and it's as though nothing happens, it keeps asking me to reboot once I hit a page with the shockwave plugin06:30
boingolovany thoughts?06:30
thompathat sucks06:30
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thompaif i click the link i get no sound and have to close and open realplayer06:31
thompaother than that kubuntu still best distro06:31
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moparisthebestsweet, should be good now :)06:32
thompawhy do kubuntu menus appear faster than in gnome?06:32
Hawkwindboingolov: Might try asking in #WineHQ06:32
OODthey do? from my experience gnome is snapier06:32
boingolovthank you06:32
moparisthebestyay, doom3 works :) thanks OOD and Hawkwind06:33
OODnp :)06:34
Hawkwindmoparisthebest: No problem :)06:34
Hawkwindboingolov: You're welcome06:35
OODdoes anyone remember the command to change passwords?06:35
narqw06:36
narq<nile> _Lewellyn is using windows?06:36
ArmedGeekthe newer KDE is quicker than gnome.  that's what finally caused me to switch.  and you can ask Hawkwind, i've been using gnome forever06:36
HawkwindGnome addict he is!06:37
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boingolovI've always liked kde, if for no other reason than that's the first one I tried many years ago.  and at that time, when I tried gnome to compare, it was very buggy compared.  so I got used to kde06:39
HawkwindIt's all about E17 :P06:40
HawkwindI don't care for KDE or Gnome, but prefer KDE to Gnome any day06:40
boingolovgnome is pretty damn slick these days, but I'm a creature of habit06:40
HawkwindThough I do use a few KDE apps and don't mind seeing KDE if I have to06:40
OODi went with kde, since gnome is a nightmare with usability and customizability06:40
HawkwindOOD: I agree 100% with you on that06:41
OODnautillous doesn't even have a flipin address bar06:41
OODthat really annoyed me06:41
boingolovmeh, screw both of their built-in browsers06:41
boingolovI see no reason to use anything but firefox, or occasionally ie6 under wine when I have to test something06:41
boingolovor when I just like seeing the fans kick on06:41
HawkwindI really used to love all the GTK2 stuff and still do for some things.  But QT has really gotten to look nicer over the years IMO06:41
HawkwindI use konqueror as a file manager.  It's horrible as a webbrowser IMO06:42
thompamostly i need kword and abiword, do email thats it presto06:42
thompakonqueror has good pdf integration06:43
OODplus, kde has bouncy icons, and that's something i'd kill for any day :D06:44
jinhohey for enemy territory06:45
jinhothe menu is even really really slow06:45
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jinhoI got the message that says "You are using software Mesa (no hardware acceleration)!06:46
flakeyou have to install the driver, it's using software mode i think, which is why it is slow06:46
jinhohow can I get hardware acceleration?06:46
flakedo you have nvidia?06:46
Hawkwind!ati06:46
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:46
jinhowhich driver do I need?06:46
jinhoATI06:46
HawkwindRead that06:46
jinhoexcept i have a radeon 9200 which is less than 950006:47
jinhofor fglrx06:47
OODthat's fine06:47
jinhoinstall it then?06:48
moparisthebestati uck06:48
bob_anyone got any ideas how to run a remote desktop server on port 80?06:48
moparisthebestbut its better than onboard i guess06:48
jinhomoparisthebest: well seeing how its what I'm stuck with...06:48
thompaive tried with ati many times no results06:49
moparisthebestyep06:49
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moparisthebesti havent tried ati personally06:49
moparisthebestbut ive seen many friends try it06:49
moparisthebestand my nvidia always is better06:49
thompaif you use normal graphics its ok06:49
thompai got a 660 and 6200 in a laptop06:50
thompabut it overheats06:50
boingolovmy laptop tends to get a bit hot at times, depending on what I'm doing06:50
thompait says 100C on temp monitor06:50
OODoh god06:51
boingolovespecially gcc06:51
OODcelcius?06:51
thompabut still works,06:51
thompayes06:51
OODo______________006:51
thompaive proved it, its a vaio and can go up to 100c06:51
moparisthebest100 celsius?06:51
thompayep06:51
OODi can boil water on that thing06:51
thompaif i run bzflag06:51
moparisthebestit must be fareinhight (sp?)06:51
OODlol06:51
thompaor opengl stuff06:51
moparisthebestno way you can heat that up to 212 degrees and it not melt06:52
thompaanything with cpu 100% also06:52
boingolovI've gotten mine up over 70 regularly06:52
boingolovcelsius06:52
moparisthebesti had a athlon xp 2000+ partially melt at 120 F06:52
thompaand there is a factor which has to do with acpi involved06:52
thompai am now at 54c06:52
boingolovmine shuts down if it gets up too high06:52
OODthis is where desktops shine :D06:52
thompabut if i run bzflag it climbs to 98C06:53
thompai think the reading must be incorrect06:53
thompaits damn hot though06:53
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OODthompa that's ridiculous, how can a cpu operate at 100C06:53
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jinhohelp...06:54
thompawell temp montior says so06:54
flakewhat's up jinho06:54
jinhokubuntu went whack06:54
OODmonitors lie, they get screwed up06:54
jinhoand my monitor06:54
thompathe vaio nvidia chip is near the cpu06:54
jinhowent from 1280x1024 to 640 48006:54
thompaso the reading i think is correct06:54
moparisthebestthe reading must be wrong, thats the only answer06:54
jinhoi tried fixing it w/ dpkg-reconfigure06:55
jinhobut no good06:55
OODcan't be 100C that's the boiling point of water that's way too hot06:55
jinhothis is very weird...06:55
flakeyou installed the drivers?06:55
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thompabut then this vaio has water damage so who knows06:55
flakedid you try increasing it back to 1280x102406:55
jinhohow do i do that?06:56
thompai think its maybe 85c realistically, it has something to do with nviidago06:56
jinhoit only has 640 480906:56
jinho480*06:56
jinhoin the display area06:57
OODchange the monitor driver model06:57
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jinhoshit what is wrong w/ my comp today06:57
OODgo to the hardware tab06:57
thompathe graphics on  this vaio are awsome though i run all the opengl screensavers and stuff06:57
moparisthebestthompa, if it was operating at the boiling tempature of water you would not be talking to us right now because your processor would be liquid plastic06:57
thompaduh06:57
jinhoOOD: how can I get root access?06:57
OODfor what?06:58
OODoh06:58
jinhoto be able to change the hardware stuff for monitor06:58
OODa box should appear asking for your password06:58
thompaa processor can run at 100c and more just so you know06:58
OODdid it?06:58
moparisthebestjinho, sudo -i06:58
flakesudo06:58
thompabut thats besides the point, if i can find an acurrate reading06:58
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thompait still will say 100c across all linux distros06:59
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thompain ubuntu vaio with nvidia is about 85c07:00
boingolovdoesn't mean that the sensor itsself doesn't read a bit high.  I'm sure that windows or linux or whatever you run on it will read the same value from your sensor, but that doesn't mean ithe sensor is necessarily accurate07:00
thompaits cooler by about 10c if acpi is correct07:00
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boingolovbut mine shows 55 C right now, and if I compile a kernel for instance it gets up around the 70-74 range07:00
thompatheres no bios sensor so i have no way of knowing anything07:01
boingolov100 does sound excessive, but regardless these little boogers get hot07:01
thompathe sony vaio had most heat problem07:01
OODhow do i get the sensors working? haven't bothered trying yet07:02
boingolovmine's an hp07:02
moparisthebestthompa, get a thermometer and hold it on your processor while its running07:02
moparisthebesttry to put it under the heatsink a little if you can07:02
thompa2004-5 vaios have heat issues07:02
thompawhat kind of thermo?07:02
boingolovksysguard can do it07:03
thompai got to take all the screws off like 6007:03
thompabut ok07:03
flakespeakin of heat..  watch out for exploding laptops07:03
flakehttp://www.macobserver.com/article/2006/06/21.8.shtml07:03
boingolovif you have your acpi stuff working07:03
thompait not dangerous07:03
thompaive had over 30k volts shock07:03
thompamany times actually07:03
moparisthebesteh, I guess its just what you get for buying a sony computer :P07:04
OODboingolov: i haven's set up my sensors yet07:04
thompaheh07:04
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OODand i don't have acpi set up either07:04
thompait runs good if i disable touchpad07:04
boingolovon a lot of systems it should "just work"07:05
thompathe toshiba is so far best on linux07:05
thompathen i saw one woth lenovo which was nice07:05
boingolovmy hp has been fine for the most part, except when I first bought it the i915 chipset wasn't very well supported in distros07:05
omarguys ... I've installed Xubuntu using an installation CD and now I installed Kubuntu using synaptic .... Can I easily remove Xubuntu using synaptic too ?07:05
boingolovbut any centrino - based lappy would have that problem07:06
boingolovit's great now though07:06
OODomar: here : http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde07:06
thompai would like to easily find list of xgames?07:06
thompai installed them, but have to remmeber the names or cant type them07:07
thompaits centino,07:07
thompabut the nvidia graphics are fasteer than on PC07:07
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thompacentrino whatever07:08
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boingolovmine has the crappy intel video07:08
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thompaits running very smooth now07:08
thompai810?07:08
boingolovi91507:08
thompaits good video too07:09
thompayou can run opengl stuff07:09
boingolovuses the i810 driver tho07:09
boingolovyeah07:09
boingolovit's fine really07:09
boingolovjust not a gaming machine by any stretch07:09
boingolovnot that I really care07:09
thompano07:09
thompabut screen savers worked07:09
boingolovbut yeah< I've had great experieences in the past with nvidia hardware w/ linux07:10
thompathe only reason i have windows is flight simulator07:10
omarOOD: the tutorial says nuthing about if I installed Xubuntu from a CD !07:10
thompaand the windows part always messes up07:10
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boingolovI have windows for protools and photoshop.  and I don't need photoshop that often07:10
OODomar: just paste all that into terminal and xubuntu will be gone, doesn;t matter where the install came from07:10
flakeis there an open sourced flash or animation tool available07:11
OODi use windows for making music with FL Studio07:11
thompaedubuntu is really cool07:11
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OODwon't work in wine :(07:11
OODthat's the one program keeping me in windows07:11
thompaim practicing airbus flight sim, its fun07:12
omarOOD: Thanks07:12
thompabut wings are unstable, also07:12
boingolovthis laptop has enough trouble running protools natively on XP, I wouldn't even try it under wine haha07:12
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thompaalso "open door hatch" opens too easily07:12
thompabut most the games even suck in windows07:13
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thompaheroes3 linux , still are fav here07:13
flakesee yall later, thanks for the help07:14
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OODlater07:15
HawkwindSee ya flake07:15
thompaits nice to see moonlander07:15
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thompaheh07:15
thompayou gotta apt-get install moonlander07:15
thompaits grear07:16
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moparisthebesti saw someplace how to mount iso files07:16
moparisthebestbut now i cant remmber where, does anyone know?07:17
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wordis there a way to get a katapult-type thing in the k menu? like just a search app/run box?07:17
OODyes07:17
wordOOD: How?07:18
OODyou can also start katapult with ALT+SPACE07:18
OODi find it easier07:18
wordb-b-b-ut...07:18
OODbut if you want it in the kmenu07:18
OODopen the k menu and right click07:18
OODand click edit-item07:18
OODthen add a new item and the in the 'command' box type katapult, then you can mess with the icon and position it is on the k-menu :)07:19
wordthat won't make an icon it'll make a search box?07:19
OODeh? you want a search box?07:20
OODisn't that what katapult basically is? a search box?07:20
wordyah that's what i was talking about a search/run box like katapult in the k menu07:20
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OODoh you want a katapult search directly in the k-menu?07:21
wordyah07:21
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhow do i check cpu info ?07:21
OODi see07:21
OODkatapult can't do that07:21
OODbut you can download beagle, and it's sort of like the search box in vista07:22
wordhm07:22
OODwich is what you'd want right?07:22
OODit indexes the hard drive07:22
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wordnaw just an application search07:22
worddoesn't matter I guess07:22
OODbeagle could do that yes07:23
OODyou can chose to index a whole hard-drive, or just apps07:23
wordmeh installing beagle sounds like work :P07:24
drgonzommm, this isn't kde specific but I noticed you where talking about beagle. Does anyone know of any full-text indexing software that I could use for just an ebook journal collection I have which is both pdf and djvu ?07:24
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OODit's a gnome specific app so it might not work perfectly07:25
OODjust do sudo apt-get beagle07:25
OODalthough that'll install a bunch of packages and take up 50 some megs07:25
wordunless you've installed gnome apps before07:26
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boingolovit would be hard to have a usable system without gtk/gtk2 installed at least07:26
OODi'm not even sure if beagle will add a search box to the start menu, that might've been a distro specific feature07:26
OODso you'd have to try it out yourself, i haven;t tried it yet07:27
tssdhello07:27
omarOOD: all is removed except scim-gtk2-immodule .. it gives me this error ... join #flood please07:27
tssdanyone can help me play mp3 format in kubuntu?07:28
OODsure07:28
OODyou want mp3 support in amarok?07:28
drgonzo I've already got a database of the journal entry's in mysql. That correspondes to the name and location plus extra info on each journal. I would like to incorporate full-text search capabilities so It doesn't just search title and the info in my mysql database but the pdf/djvu as well.07:28
omarOOD: hello ?07:28
tssdyes sir07:28
kernali can't setup my resolution to 1440 x 900 on an Intel 810 chipset, does anyone known how to?07:29
tssdi've read the instruction in wiki, but i can't see the package in libxine-extracodecs07:29
OODyou have to enable extra repositories07:29
tssdhow?07:30
OODstart adept07:30
boingolovmight be able to script something like that using pdf2text07:30
tssdim' running it right now07:30
fiyawerx!easysource07:30
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:30
OODk click adept->manage repositories07:30
tssdokay07:30
OODyou should have an entry called deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe07:31
OODand deb src ********07:31
kernalplease somebody help me...07:31
tssdfor a while sir07:31
OODso are they there?07:32
n0ctuRnaL-fieNdhow do i check cpu info ?07:32
fiyawerx!restricted07:32
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:32
tssdit start with ph not ca coz im from phils07:32
fiyawerx!path07:33
ubotuI know nothing about path07:33
fiyawerxhow do you add a dir to your path?07:33
fiyawerxpermanently07:33
kernal!1440x90007:33
ubotuI know nothing about 1440x90007:33
OODah yes :)07:33
OODit theyre grayed out right click and select enable07:33
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OODif*07:33
boingolovfiya, edit your ~/.bash_profile , export PATH=$PATH:/some/new/location , save it, start a new shell and it should be active ;)07:34
fiyawerxthanks boingolov07:34
boingolovthere are a number of places you could edit it though, if you want it globally, you could put it in /etc/bash.bashrc07:34
drgonzoFor example. Kat,beagle etc support indexing of the files i'm interested in, but is orintated around a desktop search I would like to incorporate full-text capabilities into a search engine for the web.07:34
drgonzoi'm probably not articulating myself properly, but are there any open-source engines that support these formats?07:35
tssdi already did sir07:35
tssdand fetch the updates07:35
boingolovdrgonzo, you should be able to script that easily enough07:35
tssdbut it doesn't list the said package07:36
boingolovif you're storing in a mysql database, perl might be a decent option07:36
drgonzoI don't have the files indexed in mysql. only entry's with information  on the file.07:36
OODk then click on the universe part, then you'll be able to type, so type in multiverse after universe, then apply, fetch update and it should work :_07:36
OOD:)07:36
drgonzoIs mysql the best option for full-text indexing?07:36
kernalhow do i set 1440x900 resolution?07:37
boingolovdrgonzo, not a bad option if you're wanting to make the data available on the web07:37
fiyawerxboingolov: awesome, worked thanks :)07:37
tssdthat's what i've not done07:37
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drgonzoboingolov: do you know if there are any sites that have comparisons of full-text databases and linux07:38
boingolovnot off hand no07:38
tssdi've seen it now on the list07:38
ChefWill!flash07:38
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:38
tssdhow to install it just click it?07:39
boingolovdrg, so what exactly are you trying to do?07:39
OODjust select it and it right click and install07:39
tssdit said request install07:40
tssdi've click it07:40
tssdwhat will happen then07:40
boingolovand how is it that you have file info already in mysql?  how did you get this info, just out of curiosity?07:40
OODyou should be able to play mp3's then07:41
tssdit is now installing07:41
tssdafter i click apply07:42
OODeh, what's installing? k you lost me07:42
kernali need some help in xorg configuration to set the resolution at 1440x90007:42
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boingolovkernal, odd resolution haha07:43
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OODkernal: try going to display options, selecting the hardware tab, then configure and select your monitor07:44
noaXessis there a method to automaticaly cleanup grub, that only entries are in, for installed kernel?07:44
OODnoaXess you got extra entries?07:44
boingolovnoaxess, if there were an automagic fixer upper thingy, I'd be leary of using it07:44
noaXessOOD, old kernel entries.. kernel that aren't installed..07:44
tssdthanks ood, its working now, though amarok crashes when I try to play it over the samba network07:45
boingolovjust edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst , then grub-install /dev/yourbootdrive07:45
boingolovtypically /dev/hda07:45
OODtssd: np :), i don't know how to fix that problem though07:46
boingolovtssd, I'd look into the oplocks setting of smb.conf as a possible starting point07:46
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J_lugescould somebody do me a favour07:47
boingolovwait, is using your linux as a samba client or server?07:47
kernalOOD: mi monitor isn't at the hardware list, i tried with a generic one but when i restart xorg i get this message from my monitor "out of range"07:47
J_lugesi need someone to open a terminal and ping "www.runescape.com" for me07:48
tssdsorry, can't understand term, i'm new to linux,07:48
J_lugessomebody help me pls07:49
OODkernal: try a generic one07:49
boingolovyou can try xvidtune07:50
lowtechkernal: start by getting the specs for your monitor. you need the horiz/vert refresh ranges.07:50
boingolovhave to start it from command line tho07:50
kernalOOD: i already did it with no luck07:51
tssdperhaps i will do that later, when i'm fully aware of the linux basics07:51
lowtechJ_luges: no response07:51
macdIf I setup a xvnc sever on screen :1 how would I tell kdm or gdm to run on that screen in addition to :0 ?07:51
OODPING www.runescape.com (66.151.43.152) 56(84) bytes of data.07:52
kernallowtech: Fh: 30~82kHz, Fv: 50~85Hz07:52
J_lugesok ty07:52
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lowtechkernal: put those in your xorg.conf07:53
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lowtechor if the gui lets you set custom07:54
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kernallowtech: is there any way i can test changes in my xorg without closing the session?07:56
OODno you have to restart X07:57
tssdboingolov: how to look into the oplocks setting of smb.cnf07:58
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tssdshould I start terminal07:58
lowtechkernal: i don't know if/what kubuntu has a test. i'm new to kubuntu07:58
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kernalso long and thanks fo all the shoes07:58
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lowtechkernal: you'll see that error you got when the resolution chosen and rates your monitor selections set don't match the monitor specs.08:00
kernalok08:00
kernalthanks a lot08:00
lowtechno problem08:00
OODi had a website bookmarked that was able to generate a xorg resolution based on refreshrate and resolution08:01
OODbut i can't find it08:01
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TheHighChildis there a way to read newsgroups in kmail? or Kontact?08:01
tssdODD: how to configure amarok to play a file over the samba network08:02
OODkernal: here it is, this might help: http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl08:03
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lowtechusually don't need to specify a modeline08:06
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kernali will try thanks both08:07
tssdtnx ODD, its playing now08:08
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fiyawerxhey guys whats a good program for actually sorting and organizing music ?08:09
tssdcan anyone help, how to play music file shared on the smb08:10
tssdusing amarok08:10
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fiyawerxhmm, it seems my audio jacks are all not rightin the mixer08:12
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TheHighChildfiyawerx: amarok is decent. Best I've seen yet on tux08:12
fiyawerxlike my slider named "front" is the one controlling the music08:12
fiyawerxbut im plugged into the back08:12
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fiyawerxTheHighChild: you can move files around and whatnot?08:12
TheHighChildfiyawerx: You could install Winamp with Wine08:12
fiyawerxTheHighChild: i was thinking more some kind of organizer08:12
TheHighChildfiyawerx: move?08:12
fiyawerxTheHighChild: yes, i have about 16000 mp3's in one folder, not organized at all08:13
fiyawerxTheHighChild: and i want to organize them08:13
fiyawerxTheHighChild: and tag them right08:13
TheHighChildum, not sure then. It's a pretty rugged app though, a google search will bring up its capabilities08:13
fiyawerxTheHighChild: will look into it08:13
TheHighChildamarok will do that08:13
fiyawerxwish my mixer was working all right08:13
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TheHighChildtssd: What's up?08:14
fiyawerxanywhere below 90% volume and i get 0 sound08:14
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TheHighChildpretty odd08:14
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fiyawerxas musicbrainz doesn't auto-tag .mp3s?08:18
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fiyawerxer aw08:18
jerryHi08:19
jerryI have a question08:19
jerryAnyone awake?08:19
jerryum08:19
jerryhello08:19
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jerryI have a question if anyone's there?08:20
tssdhighchild: can you help me, amarok crashes when I play mp3 file over SMB network, any workaround08:20
fiyawerxeven when people are awake they don't always just sit and watch, just ask the question and chill for a bit if nobody answers right away08:20
jerryok thanks08:20
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jerrywell I have this program called MegaMud and what megamud does is it sends certain "telnet stuff" like global: to different windows and I was wondering if there's a program for linux that I can use to connect to a telnet server and then when say a message like "global" is sent it will display that in a certain window for telneting08:21
ajaykanthi i m 24 male from delhi08:22
ajaykantany one chat with me08:22
jerrysure I'll chat with you08:22
jerryhow?08:22
crimsunajaykant: this is the support channel for Kubuntu. Do you have a support question?08:22
ajaykanthi jerry08:22
jerryhow do I send private messages to someone?08:22
jerryjoin channel #jerryandajaykant08:23
fiyawerxjerry, you looking for a linux mud client?08:23
fiyawerxtintin++ can send things to multiple windows i think at the same time08:23
jerryya08:23
jerrytintin++?08:23
_rince_mrgn08:24
jerryhow do I run that?08:24
fiyawerxwell, are you looking for a graphical client08:24
fiyawerxor console based08:24
jerrywell like if I get a message like "global:"08:24
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jerrywhen I telnet to a server like cause I want to play mud but my softeware is windows only :( well I want to just chat with people but in order to do that I need to filter out all the other stuff so like if someone says "global: Hy jerry. How are you" I want that to display in a seperate window or something like that08:25
fiyawerxoh08:25
jerryoh also a way to send timed macros08:25
fiyawerxyeah, one sec, i was jsut looking up linux mud clients a few mins ago08:25
jerrysend 'l' every 1min08:25
tssdsorry not to respond in time, workin' sometin'08:25
fiyawerxyou're using kde, right?08:25
jerryis there a mud client?08:25
jerryya08:25
fiyawerxyeah thats just basic timed actions08:25
jerryI didn't know I thought the only thing out there was megamud08:26
jerryI know that there's older mud clients would that work?08:26
jerrylet me see08:26
tssdgotta go, tnx08:26
fiyawerxyep08:26
ajaykantwhat r u saying08:26
fiyawerxthere's tons of them, im not familiar with megamud08:26
jerrywell megamud is the "current" one everyone says it costs $45 but it's pretty user friendly but the down side it's only for windows08:27
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jerryand I don't quite want to go through a windows program on top of linux :(08:27
ajaykanti am 24 male any one want chat with me (india)08:28
jerryI can't private message you ajaykant sorry :(08:28
jerryI appears I can only chat in chat rooms and not private message08:28
jerrybrb08:28
fiyawerxjerry: don't go anywhere for a minute, im checking out a few different ones08:28
ajaykanthi08:29
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fiyawerxjerry: it looks like KMC (mud client for kde) will do everything you need08:30
jerryok thanks :)08:30
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fiyawerxhttp://kmc.sourceforge.net/08:30
fiyawerxbrowse around the site there and the "online manual" to get a look at it08:30
lowtechjerry: is your nick registered?08:32
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fiyawerxanyone know what a general reference to "X Includes" would be?08:32
fiyawerxchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes.08:32
ChefWillits like08:33
ChefWillxorg-x11-devel08:33
jerryhey ajakant you can chat with me on american online if you have that "AIM" my names we6jbo08:34
unix_infidelfiyawerx: random guess here, but maybe libraries.08:34
fiyawerxyeah, no clue which ones it wants, lol08:34
unix_infidelthe dev packages would have them.08:34
fiyawerxnot sure of the names of them, coldnt find the xorg-x11-devel08:34
unix_infidelfiyawerx: for installing KMC?08:34
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fiyawerxunix_infidel: yep08:34
fiyawerxunix_infidel: tryin to get it so i'll know what to do when jerry has a problem with it08:34
fiyawerxplus i've been looking for a decent mud client :008:35
fiyawerxtinyfugue makes my head hurt08:35
unix_infidelxserver-xorg-dev - X.Org X server -- development files08:35
unix_infidellol @ mud.08:36
fiyawerxheh, i've been mudding for years, i'll never give itu p08:36
unix_infidelmaybe its time to get a real job :P08:36
unix_infideland a haircut.08:36
fiyawerxi mud from work :)08:36
unix_infidellike i said, maybe its time to get a real job.08:36
fiyawerxheh08:36
fiyawerxi like my job very much08:36
fiyawerxwell, i play a lot of armagetron too08:37
fiyawerxbut mostly mud08:37
fiyawerxunless by "real job" you mean like construction, but i even know some truck drivers that mud from wireless @ truckstops08:37
unix_infidelas opposed to....sleeping.  Like they should be.08:37
jerrysays I need libXext08:38
jerrywhat on earth is that08:38
fiyawerxheh08:38
fiyawerxtryin to figure out how to compile it myself jerry, the xserver-xorg-dev didn't do it08:38
fiyawerxits failing on checking for shl_unload in -ldld... no08:38
jerryI don't ever have to install stuff I don't need others using as root just as myself and then I can run it on my own account08:39
jerryI told the techsupport to make sure that everyone could run their own programs on this so that if there was an application that they could install it for themself08:40
jerrythat seems to be unnessisary imo but I don't know08:40
jerrymy grandmother08:40
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jerryI have a computer but I've using windows for years now and + the hw locks me in windows (I didn't read the fineprint) but I was afraid to let my grandmother use a windows machine because of all the work I have to do for my moms machine so I got her a linux machine bought and presetup08:41
jerrybut I'm also technical08:41
jerryand a salespitch person08:42
jerrymy job08:42
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jerryMy AA in webprogramming and (soon) BA in Political Science so if you want anything make sure to mention it now before 200808:42
fiyawerxaha, i got past that with installing QT08:43
jerrywow it's late08:43
jerryQT?08:43
jerrycan I do that with the one thing08:43
jerryadept?08:44
fiyawerxyeah, i'll tell you what, i'll play around with it and figure out just which we need to install08:44
fiyawerxemail me08:44
fiyawerxfiyawerx@gmail.com08:44
jerryok08:44
jerrymy email is we6jbo@aim.com08:44
fiyawerxand i'll get back to you tomorrow with it or later on tonight08:44
jerryso I'll go ahead and run that and watch for you08:44
jerrycool thanks :)08:44
fiyawerxman do i love debfoster08:45
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fiyawerxmakes installing random packages so harmless lol08:45
fiyawerxman, amarok is f'n cool08:48
moruandoes anyone know something about coreutils08:48
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jerryok sent08:49
ubuntuhey hi everybody08:50
moruandoes anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~08:51
ubuntucan the partition (in wich /home will be installed) be fat32??08:51
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PasNoxhi08:53
PasNoxthere is someone here ?08:53
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PasNoxnoone ?08:55
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pc_butlerim in upington in south africa08:59
pc_butlerany one online?08:59
pc_butlerdo u know if one can download programs for ubuntu for instal on pcs with no internet? how does it work?08:59
pc_butlersorry meant kubuntu09:00
pc_butlerno offence09:00
pc_butlernewbie alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:00
ubuntulol09:00
emonkey hm if you've a DVD you can09:00
ubuntuyup... thos would be my words09:00
emonkeyI mean an ubuntu DVD09:01
ubuntuthose*09:01
pc_butlerI have gprs09:01
pc_butlervery xpensive09:01
pc_butlerkan one order it some where09:01
pc_butlerdownload it at internet shop or so?09:02
ubuntuyou can ask for the shipping of that dvd09:02
ubuntutheres a page09:02
pc_butleremonkey, where do i get a DVD?09:02
ubuntuhold...  let me find it..09:02
pc_butlerubuntu thanx09:03
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pc_butlerubuntu is that only for ubuntu? Kubuntu?09:04
pc_butlercan some one help me with xubuntu?09:05
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pc_butlerlimited resources for downloading gprs charge R2/mb, any suggestions09:06
moruandoes anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~09:06
pc_butlerHealot, hi09:06
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moruanany idea how to upgrade coreutils ?  ~~~09:06
HealotR2? South African currency?09:06
pc_butlermoruan, no me09:07
pc_butlerHealot,  yes09:07
moruan: <pc_butler>  how to upgrade ?09:08
pc_butlerim @work might not respond immediatly09:09
moruan: <pc_butler>  when i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed09:09
pc_butlermoruan, i meant "not me"09:09
pc_butlernewbie09:09
_rince_is it possible to set locales on a per-application basis? e.g.09:10
moruan: <pc_butler>  sorry , i thought is was " on me "09:10
pc_butlerim @work might not respond immediatly09:10
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moruan: <pc_butler>  that's fine , i am in a hurry about this problem , so ~~~09:10
_rince_to have standard C for the whole system, except thunderbird where i want LC_TIME=en_DK09:11
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pc_butlermoruan, my email is jwkhn@bluebottlel.com09:13
pc_butlerincase09:13
moruan: <pc_butler>  ths09:14
pc_butlersorry was 4 ubuntu09:14
fiyawerxanyone use tunepimp with mp3s? (amarok auto-tagging)09:14
pc_butlerubuntu, my email is jwkhn@bluebottlel.com09:15
fiyawerxhow can you tell what your processor is from inside k?09:18
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fiyawerxah ksysinfo09:18
kubuntuhello09:18
kubuntuwhat is default username and password09:19
kubuntupostgresql09:19
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soundmaster80has anyonwe had an issue installing from the alternative disc09:27
soundmaster80initally i got issues with the cd not going much farther than loading the kernel on choosing what to install09:28
pc_butlerwhat is the su pasword?09:28
soundmaster80i got around that but after installing when it should go to splash i get nothing....ever09:28
soundmaster80the user pass pc_butler09:28
pc_butlerso u type your pass?09:29
pc_butlersoundmaster80,09:29
soundmaster80i'm sorry i must've caught the end of a conversation....it's very late here09:30
soundmaster80are you wanting to know the root password pc_butler?09:30
pc_butlersoundmaster80, yes09:30
soundmaster80if your wanting to do something as root you would use the sudo command with your user password09:31
soundmaster80sudo apt-get install "package" then the password you provide is your user password09:32
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soundmaster80well, i guess I will go install the flight4 i have and upgrade09:33
soundmaster80this is annoying09:33
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pc_butlerja but if i su in terminal?09:34
soundmaster80oh09:34
fiyawerxhey guys whats a good mass mp3 tagging software?, amarok seems to want you to press through on every one09:34
pc_butlerit ask for pass09:34
soundmaster80there is no root user09:34
soundmaster80you use the sudo command on whatever you want to run as root09:34
soundmaster80you can create a root account09:34
soundmaster80with sudo su09:35
soundmaster80at least i think that's right09:35
fiyawerxit's a good idea to get used to sudo tho :)09:35
soundmaster80yup09:35
soundmaster80makes things more enjoyable i find09:35
soundmaster80anyone got a suggestion about my problem?09:35
fiyawerxyeah, and most large companies implement it, all our aix/solaris servers use sudo for people who need access to certain things09:35
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soundmaster80again, dl'd the alternative cd....checked the MD5 and it's right, burned the cd and on install it will not bring up anything past what type i want to install09:36
soundmaster80i worked around that but after it supposedly installed i get nothing past grub loading09:37
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lolcan anyone help me09:39
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lolkubuntu networking problem >.>09:39
lollol?09:40
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fiyawerxlol, what's up? many people are asleep at this time :)09:41
loloh09:41
lolwell can you help?09:41
fiyawerxit's usually better to just ask the question, rather than if you can ask the question :)09:41
fiyawerxno idea09:42
Healot!ask09:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)09:42
lolhaha okay09:42
fiyawerxHealot: thanks :)09:42
lolso... i installed kubuntu today09:42
loland with the live cd the internet worked fine09:42
lolbut after installation and stuff09:42
lolit /died09:42
wordlol: How are you on the internet now?09:42
fiyawerxdid it work after installation / before updates?09:42
lolanother computer09:42
lol>.>09:42
word:P09:43
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loler it was working during the installation09:43
fiyawerxwhat kind of card is it?09:43
lolwhile i was still running on the live cd09:43
lolit's...09:43
lolcnetpro20009:43
lolpci fast ethernet09:43
lolthe tulip compatible thing09:43
wordlol: the live cd loads up it's own configuartions and stuff that's why it takes so long to boot09:43
fiyawerxi had similar problems with my wireless card, but that was due to missing restricted-modules after my first boot upgraded my kernel09:43
lol?09:44
fiyawerxwhen you boot, do you see options for the -25 and -23 kernels?09:44
loler09:44
lolwherew ould that be09:44
lolrofl09:44
fiyawerxin the first menu in Grub09:44
worddo you have a dual boot system?09:44
lolno09:44
wordotherwise you have to press some random key to see it09:44
lolwant me to reboot09:44
fiyawerxoh, is .. oh09:44
soundmaster80LOL....well apparantly no one has suffered from my problems :)09:44
fiyawerxsorry i didn't know the grub loader didnt pop up in a single install :)09:45
lol-.-;;09:45
wordit displays 'press * key to view grub' for like 1 second09:45
lolyeah09:45
lolshould i...09:45
fiyawerxhit that key lol09:45
lolreboot....09:45
lolrofl09:45
lolk hold up09:45
wordon that comp yah09:45
lolyes i know09:45
loli'm not that bad >.>09:45
fiyawerxheh if he rebooted this computer09:45
fiyawerxthis conversation would be fit for bash.org09:46
wordlol09:46
lollol yarly09:46
wordwell he was asking if he should reboot....and i was thinking hey it's not that big a deal he's not on that computer...ya never know ;p09:46
lolhaha09:46
lolokay09:46
loli'm in grub....09:46
lolso there's....09:46
word3 options?09:46
lolyeah09:46
wordso that's a no to fiyawerx's questions09:47
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wordare you fully updated?09:47
loli'm guessing no...09:47
fiyawerxprob not09:47
lolsince i cant really update without09:47
m0gsiHey all i am just wondering how much space kde would take if i were to install it onto ubuntu09:47
lolinternet ?09:47
wordis it -23 on the kernel?09:47
wordlol i suppose not09:47
lol15-23-286?09:47
lolis what it says next to kernel09:47
wordyah it's oudated09:48
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wordby 209:48
lolT_T09:48
wordwait09:48
lol2.6.15-23-28609:48
wordo.o09:48
word286?09:48
fiyawerx286?09:48
loler09:48
lol38609:48
wordlol09:48
lollol my bad09:48
fiyawerxhah09:48
soundmaster80I am beginning to wonder why I wiped XP for this again09:48
fiyawerxyeah thats the current cd versions09:48
fiyawerxwhy'd you wipe xp soundmaster8009:48
wordsoundmaster80: why?09:48
fiyawerxdual boots rock :)09:48
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soundmaster80well, on a striped raid09:49
soundmaster80kinda hard09:49
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lolso...09:49
worduntil a decent game emulater that works well without a patch possibly breaking the game for linux I'm dual booting09:49
fiyawerxditto09:49
soundmaster80I don't game09:49
fiyawerxbut i keep downsizing my ntfs partition for more for linux09:49
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fiyawerxsoundmaster80: what do you do?09:49
lolwhat do i do...09:49
lolnow09:49
soundmaster80right now i'm pulling my hair out09:49
wordme too recently chopped off 17 gigs added 7 to kubuntu and loaded on suse too hehe tri-boot09:49
soundmaster80usually i'm more into just projects...firewalls and such09:50
word!network09:50
ubotuI know nothing about network09:50
wordLIES09:50
word!anything09:50
ubotuI know nothing about anything09:50
wordhaha09:50
lol!sex09:50
ubotuI know nothing about sex09:50
fiyawerx!abuse09:50
ubotuIf you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.09:50
wordsoundmaster80: what's the problem?09:50
fiyawerxaw thats not it09:50
lolT_T09:51
word!networkconfig09:51
ubotuI know nothing about networkconfig09:51
lolso am i stuck lol09:51
soundmaster80I'm getting the same thing from like flight 409:51
word!config09:51
ubotuI know nothing about config09:51
soundmaster80i burn the cd09:51
wordsoundmaster80: Please explain your problem09:51
soundmaster80put it in...i get tht inital boot screen asking what i want to install09:51
soundmaster80i have a new install or install on a desktop or whatever09:51
soundmaster80from that nothing09:51
soundmaster80now....09:52
wordwhat do you mean nothing?09:52
soundmaster80i can change it by hitting f4 to 1024x768@32 and i get the install to come up09:52
wordsound09:52
lol>.>09:52
lolwhat if i get an ip09:53
lolbut cant ping out09:53
soundmaster80but, I install it and upon rebooting i get past grub to where it's loasing the kernel and the splash takes over and that's it09:53
soundmaster80nothing on the screen....nothing09:53
worduse the alternate install - it's basically a never-fail version some raid configs and weird hardware doesn't work in the live cd version09:53
soundmaster80lol....that's what i'm using now09:53
wordtry the live cd version?09:53
wordlol eh/09:54
soundmaster80i can, i hear people have been having problems with it too though09:54
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wordnot like yours09:54
wordat least you can get further with the live cd (it's likely)09:54
soundmaster80i did an md5 check on the download and it is right09:54
soundmaster80like i said i had similar problems in flight 409:54
wordlol: Umm....k menu system settings connections...09:55
soundmaster80i got around everything with it though09:55
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wordlol:  I meant network settings not connections..09:56
soundmaster80at this point i think i'm going to install it and update09:56
loltalking to me?09:56
wordi put lol in front of it09:56
loloh09:56
wordso ya ;p09:56
lolhaha09:56
lolokay09:56
loli'm there >.>09:56
wordsoundmaster80: ...try the live cd09:57
wordlol: what do you see?09:57
soundmaster80yeah, can't hurt09:57
wordin the big bo09:57
wordbox*09:57
loletho009:58
lol192.168.2.8 dhcp09:58
lolenabled ethernet network device09:58
lolthat's under the network interfaces tab09:58
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wordand in the next one?09:58
worddomain name whatevers tab09:59
lolhas 3 dns's09:59
lolthat look right09:59
lolaccording to my network settings and stuff09:59
wordcan you see it from another comp?09:59
lolyeah10:00
wordbut no internet?10:00
lolwait10:00
wordhow many computers on the network?10:00
lolyou mean ping it10:00
lolfrom another comp?10:00
lolright now just 210:00
wordrouter or..?10:00
lollaptop... router10:00
loland the kubuntu box10:00
lollike i can get an address from dhcp10:00
lolbut i cant ping anything on the network either10:01
wordrouter goes to kubuntu box and laptop seperately?10:01
lolit's... laptop---wireless--> router <----wired---kubuntu10:01
wordlaptop os?10:01
lolxp pro10:01
lolis what i'm on right now10:01
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wordeww10:01
lollol10:02
lolits not mine10:02
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wordk menu - > system - > adept - > install the package samba10:02
Emesssamba should be preinstalled...10:02
wordnot all of it10:02
wordat least not all of it was on the 2 installs i did for my brothers10:03
lolsamba common?10:03
wordsamba and samba-common10:03
wordare they already installed?10:03
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lolsamba isnt10:03
loljust samba common10:03
wordinstall samba10:04
wordwhat's the name of the workgroup on your xp machine?10:04
lolit's just called10:05
lolworkgroup10:05
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lollol10:05
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wordyou'll have to set your workgroup to workgroup (default in samba is mshome)10:05
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lolk so i10:05
lolclicked request install on samba10:06
lolthen apply changes?10:06
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lolit says fetching headers... but nothing comes10:07
lolwaiting for headers*10:07
lol-.-;;;;10:09
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wordoh yah...10:09
wordheh10:09
wordon this comp10:09
worduh10:09
wordlemme find the link it's a .deb.....then uh..do you have a usb drive?10:09
lolyeha10:10
wordgood hold a sec10:10
lolk10:10
wordin adept when you tell it to install samba click on preview changes is anythign else listed?10:11
lolno10:11
loli only selsected samba10:11
wordsometimes packages have dependencies and multiple packages are downloaded10:12
wordhere's the link - http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb10:12
lolk10:12
lol404 T_T10:12
loloh10:12
lollol you did http://ftp10:12
loler10:13
lolwell notrly10:13
loli jk10:13
worddownload that throw it on a usb drive then when it pops up as being detected - > open in new window - > right click teh .deb and kubuntu package menu - > install package10:13
wordlink works?10:13
loldoesn't work10:13
lolit's 40410:13
worddoesn't for me either lol this one does - http://itanix.rutgers.edu/ubuntu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb10:14
lolk got it10:14
wordmoving it and installin it?10:14
loldownloading....10:14
lolhmm10:15
lolapparenlty doesnt work either...10:15
loli get the download queue10:15
lolbut download doesnt start >..10:15
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wordo.O10:17
wordwait10:17
wordI know for a fact this one works - http://ubuntu.secs.oakland.edu/pool/main/s/samba/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu3_i386.deb10:17
lolyeah k lol10:18
lolworks ><10:18
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lolokay10:22
loli instialled it10:22
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lolnow what ... ><10:24
wordnow go to /etc/samba/smb.conf10:24
wordand chang MSHOME to WORKGROUP10:25
wordsave10:25
lolk10:25
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wordlol done?10:27
lolyeah10:27
wordok now open up konqueror and type in the address bar smb:/10:27
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lolactually10:28
lolit says10:28
loli cant save it?10:28
wordin command prompt10:28
wordtype sudo kate /etc/samba/smb.conf10:28
wordyou can't save it as a normal user10:28
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lolk10:29
wordwhen you finish that go to smb:/10:29
lolk10:30
wordsee anything in smb:/10:30
word?10:30
lolmyself10:30
loladmin-desktop[10:30
wordlaptop?10:30
lolno10:30
wordmeh10:30
wordhmm10:30
lolhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18643010:31
lolyou think that'll work?10:31
wordrestart (it's the only way i know how to restart samba)...lemme look10:31
lolk10:31
worddo you have a davicom card?10:31
lolyeah10:32
lolthat's the tulip10:32
wordtry it10:32
loldavicom10:32
lolw/e crap10:32
lolk10:32
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MistaEDsudo /etc/init.d/samba stop sudo /etc/init.d/samba start10:32
ArmedGeekor restart10:32
MistaED(put an & in between those two sudo commands)10:32
lolk10:32
ArmedGeektwo &10:32
MistaEDoops yeah, &&10:33
ArmedGeeksudo /etc/init.d/samba restart10:33
MistaEDor do them separately! :D10:33
MistaEDmeh10:33
lolwell that blacklisting thing says to restart10:33
MistaEDthat too10:33
lolso i try that fist >.>10:33
lolfirst*10:33
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wordAh, thanks ArmedGeek and MistaED10:34
MistaEDnp10:34
lolk10:37
lollemme try10:37
lolinternet10:37
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lolwow10:37
lolthat thing worked10:37
lol>.>10:37
lollol?10:37
omeowINTERNET10:37
lolyarly10:37
wordrestarting samba made it work?10:38
wordor the other forum post?10:38
lolno10:38
lolthat blacklist thing10:38
lolblacklisting tulip10:38
loland the dfme or w/e10:39
wordheh can you see your laptop now? :P10:39
loli dont know10:39
loli'm updating10:39
lolall the sthings10:39
wordbasically what i helped you setup was filesharing with other comps ;p10:39
lolbut i'll try hold up10:39
lollol yay10:39
lolyeah10:40
loli can see other computers now10:40
word:D10:40
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lolword10:40
lolhaha10:40
wordme10:40
wordhaha10:40
worddoesn't sound the same..10:40
lolrofl10:40
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wordsoundmaster80: how goes the live cd?10:40
lolcan you get the mac slider10:41
lolon kde?10:41
wordkde-look.org?10:41
wordno idea what mac slider =10:42
lolhave you seen like osx10:42
lolmaybe not?10:42
omeowI believe he means the icon zoom for kicker.10:42
wordnope haven't done anything but internet and text on a mac and definitely not osx ;p10:42
loloh10:43
wordicon zoom...10:43
word?10:43
loli dont know?10:43
lollol10:43
lolit's that mac slider thing10:43
wordwhat's mac slider do?10:43
lolon osx10:43
lolit's just liek taskbar10:43
lolbut10:43
lolspiffy looking10:43
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loli'll go check kde-look10:44
wordtaskbar = panel and is skinnable i'm 80% sure..take a look at kde-look.org and search for mac10:44
wordi meant kicker not panel..meh10:44
crazy_penguinhi all!10:45
wordhey :-/10:45
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wordlol: i'm going to go to bed now..it's late >< g'nite10:46
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lollater word10:47
lolthanks btw10:47
wordnp :D10:47
omarI installed Xubuntu from the installation CD and then I used the package manager to remove it and install Kubuntu .. but I still get the Xubuntu logo during the boot up screen ... whats wrong ?\10:49
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omari mean I really want a PURE kubuntu system10:50
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lol>.>10:51
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lolformat10:51
lollol10:51
omarcome on10:51
omarwell ... I get the Kubuntu screen during booting off10:52
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fred__help me. my Konqueror is too slowly!10:53
fred__and use my CPU 100% when load some page10:53
fred__such as some page of codex.wordpress.org10:53
soundmaster80well, it has installed but now i have no splash screen10:54
soundmaster80goes from booting grub to KDE10:54
soundmaster80with blank screen between the 210:54
ArmedGeekfred__: sudo apt-get install firefox10:55
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fred__ArmedGeek : I don't like it10:55
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afm\colossushello there11:00
Emessok i will pay someone to get ANY distro working on this box with KDE11:00
visik7omar: why you haven't installed kubuntu directly ?11:00
afm\colossusis it possible to completely disable KDE's "Trash"-thingie?11:01
omarvisik7: a mistake ... besides .. its not my laptop11:01
afm\colossusEmess: what box? ;)11:01
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omarvisik7: is there a way I could use the Kubuntu logo instead of the Xubuntu one during the boot up screen ?\11:01
visik7sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so11:02
omarvisik7: and why didnt this happen automaticaly since I remove all Xubuntu stuff and installed the Kubuntu stuff !11:02
visik7'couse is a thing come from the install not from packages11:02
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Emessits an amd athlon xp 1800+, 512mb ram, 80gb hdd, and a GeForce4 4200Ti11:03
omarvisik7: /usr/lib/usplash/kubuntu-splash.so11:03
omarit is the default !11:03
Emessthat graphics card kills every distro that uses X unless its flux or in some rare cases xfce11:03
afm\colossuswell, i don't see any problem getting anything to run on that hardware, Emess11:03
visik7omar: ok you need to regenerate the initrd11:03
visik7omar: check on the wiki how to change usplash image11:04
afm\colossusi've been using numerous gf4 cards in numerous boxes over the years11:04
omarvisik7: will do ... thanks alot11:04
Emessme neither, but it crashes on all debian based distros, wont even install if its graphical11:04
afm\colossusand X is not overly distribution-specific11:04
afm\colossusyou just need to get its config right11:04
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Emessthe config was perfect11:04
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Emessanyway attepmting slack oon it, and after that DesktopBSD11:05
afm\colossustried knoppix yet?11:05
Emessyup11:06
afm\colossusdoes it work?11:06
Emessmandrake, debian, *ubuntu, suse, xandros, net/free/open BSD/ redhat, fedora11:06
Emessnope11:06
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HealotI can't believe i just install zango just to watch softcore videos :)11:10
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omar_something is flushing my resolv.conf on each reboot !11:34
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CViruswhat could be it ?11:35
afm\colossusyour dhcp client11:35
CVirusafm\colossus: how can I disable it ?11:35
CVirusI mean disable the flushing feature onl11:35
CVirusonly*11:36
afm\colossusdepends on what kubuntu uses as its default client11:36
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afm\colossusfor dhcpcd at least, there's an option for that11:36
afm\colossus-P or so, i believe11:36
afm\colossusyou've got to edit the initscript for your network manually11:36
CVirusdaah11:37
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HenkHi, can anyone recommend me a highlevel database disign tool11:39
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Healotlike mysql or postgres?11:41
afm\colossusa design tool, not a DBMS11:42
afm\colossus(i can't, for that matter)11:42
Healotmysqladmin then?11:42
HenkI want to design on an entity relations level11:42
Healotor my favorite MS SQL Server or MS Access... heh wrong platform11:43
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psb154lol11:44
HenkI'm not talking about what database server to use. I'm going to abstract from it anyway.11:44
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psb154Does openoffice do something like that, a databasey interface desiny thingy11:45
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cox377does anyone notice with kubuntu that sometimes text just isn't 100% clear and tidy?11:47
cox377i say kubuntu, but i dont know if it's any linux11:47
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cox377http://img18.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc179&image=23424_adsl_att_vs_speed_chart.JPG11:48
cox377if you look @ that image you may see what i mean, on konveration its fine11:48
cox377but someitmes, within firefox it's like that11:48
Henkhey OO indeed seems to have it. I thought OO database was an 'access' clone but it's not11:49
Henkgreat11:49
Henkcox that is a gnome vs kde thing i thing. Look at GTK fonts etc.11:50
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cox377henk: i'm on kde, it just seems when using just firefox actually it doesnt always seem clear11:50
cox377i;ve tried different fonts and it doesnt seem to change11:50
Henkfirefox is a gtk aplication11:50
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Healotwell, cox377, ff is a gtk program, might behave differently unde KDE11:51
=== psb154 looks again did he just compare OO with MS access! Hybrid nut im!
cox377ahhh11:51
psb154:-D11:51
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BoSJo|zzZzzAll: How can I get permission to move files/folder when i'm not root via Konqueror, don't wanne do sudo all the time in cmd11:52
Henkpsb154, yes i did compare them... and found that they differ... jeez some people are a bit to much on edge when it comes to MS vs. Linux11:52
psb154:-)11:52
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ChryseusBoSJo|zzZzz: kdesu konqueror11:53
psb154lol11:53
BoSJoChryseus: thanks11:53
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cox377i think i know what the firefox problem is, i can only run this machine @ 1024 rez for some reason and thus i've had to decrease FF text size to make it usable, and when i increase it goes clear., so i think i need to sort this rezolution out11:55
psb154cox377 firefox allows you choose which fonts it uses for headings etc,,, mumble11:55
ChryseusI think you need to set Xft.dpi to something so that all programs no matter if it's kde or gtk will use same dpi settings11:56
cox377psb154: i've changed the fonts about.. but i dont think it's a font issue11:56
cox377could someone help me with upgrading my graphics driver11:57
cox377-display11:57
cox377                description: VGA compatible controller11:57
cox377                product: VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video11:57
cox377                vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.11:57
cox377                physical id: 011:57
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cox377                bus info: pci@01:00.011:57
cox377                version: 0111:57
cox377                size: 64MB11:57
cox377                width: 32 bits11:57
cox377                clock: 66MHz11:57
cox377                capabilities: vga bus_master cap_list11:57
cox377                resources: iomemory:e8000000-ebffffff iomemory:ec000000-ecffffff11:57
cox377thats the information i have, would it be a VIA driver i'm  look for?11:57
psb154cox377 I have the same chip on my Compaq evo n11511:57
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cox377psb154: how do i go about upgrading it?11:58
psb154cox377 I just install kubuntu 6.06 and EVERY TING works perfict.11:59
cox377thing is. the max rez i can have is 102411:59
psb154cox377 yeh me too but that is a limitation of the 14" screen I have12:00
psb154cox377 wot monitor do you got?12:00
cox37719" LG LCD screen12:01
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psb154cox377 thats a bigun12:01
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cox377and the thing is, my mom runs kubuntu on a really crap all in motherboard and hers offers upto 1600 rez12:01
jakeive got a dual monitor setup that works on the kde login screen but not when kde logs in12:01
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jakeany ideas what changes after you hit login?12:02
jakethat would change xorg.conf?12:02
psb154cox377 do you know what the maximum res of the graphics card is?12:02
cox377well under windows it was running 1280 and i dont know if that was the max but thats the max of the monitor12:02
jakethis setup worked with the last kde before 3.5.312:02
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psb154cox377 the System settings Display application wont go any higher that 1024x768?12:04
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cox377nope12:05
cox377i'm thinking if i upgrade the via drivers12:05
cox377but VT8378 isnt on the list of intergrated gfx cards on their site12:05
cox377or am i look @ the wrong thing12:05
psb154cox377 thats the audio though right?12:06
cox377oh12:07
cox377hang on12:07
psb154cox377 you say your gcard has 64mb so your colour depth will be 256 at best12:07
psb154cox377 at 1280 X 102412:07
cox377how so?12:08
psb154cox377 I'd be surprised if you can get any more than 256 colours @ 1280 with 64mb or graphics ram12:08
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cox377psb154: whats the normal amount of colours?12:10
psb154cox377 normally you'd expect to be running at: 16 bit (thousands of colours) or 24bit (millions of colours). 8bit = 256 colours12:12
psb154cox377 that means that each pixel can be thousands, millions or hundreds of colours.12:12
|lostbyte|yes :)12:13
cox377my moms is running @ 1280 and thats also 64mb intergrated12:13
cox377with an unheard of mobo12:13
cox377lol12:13
psb154cox377 check what colour depth she is running at. I bet toffee apple that she is running at 256 colours12:14
cox377haha12:14
cox377i shall do12:14
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cox377by the way, how do i find out the amount of colours?12:21
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afm\colossuspsb154: wtf?12:22
afm\colossus64mb framebuffer is a f*cking lot12:22
|lostbyte|Cornellius, kinfocenter..12:22
psb154sure its a lot... huge...12:23
afm\colossusand EASILY enough for 1280x1024x24bit12:23
|lostbyte|cox377, ^12:23
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cox377lol12:24
cox377haha why the hell can i not get 1280 then lol12:24
psb154hehe12:24
afm\colossusan image rendered at the above resolution and color-depth consumes 3MiB of memory12:24
afm\colossuswell i don't know which driver to use with savage-based cards12:25
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cox377http://www.viaarena.com/default.aspx?PageID=420&OSID=20&CatID=2260&SubCatID=10212:26
cox377i just downloaded the driver from there12:26
cox377but i think it's binary so i'm straight away out of my depth12:26
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ubuntu_hello12:30
ubuntu_i need help12:30
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arsohelllo?12:30
arsoanyone12:30
arsoi am kubuntu newbie12:30
arsoi just booted the desktop version12:30
morzel_and what's your problem?12:30
arsothe display is 640*48012:31
arsoor something12:31
arsoreally big12:31
arsowhen i go to kcontrol>display12:31
arsotry to set it to anything else12:31
arsothere are no other options12:31
arsobesides 640*48012:31
afm\colossuswhat graphics card have you got?12:31
arsoati radeon series 200 256mb12:31
arsofrom wat ive read online, the problem is recognizing my monitor or something12:32
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arsohad the same problem with suse, wouldnt load, getting out of range error12:32
afm\colossusdo a `egrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf` and upload its output to nopaste12:33
psb154cox377 in your system settings > display     what does it say for graphics card.... or have I asked you that12:33
psb154cox377 do the egrep thing12:33
arsoafm\colossus:  sorry i dont understand anything u said...12:34
arsoi am a real linux newbie12:34
afm\colossusok12:34
cox377whats the egrep thing?12:34
afm\colossuspress Alt+F212:34
afm\colossusenter "konsole" (without quotes) in the window that just popped up12:34
afm\colossusthen paste12:34
afm\colossusegrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:34
afm\colossusinto the terminal you just opened12:34
arsopaste all of this "egrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:35
afm\colossus(copy = mark with you mouse, paste = middle mouse click)12:35
arsook12:35
arsoi got some resolutions and stuff12:35
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afm\colossusgreat12:35
arsonow what?12:35
afm\colossuspaste that stuff to some nopaste site12:35
cox377egrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:35
afm\colossushttp://rafb.net/paste/12:36
cox377root@admin-desktop:~# egrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:36
cox377        Driver          "kbd"12:36
cox377        Driver          "mouse"12:36
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psb154cox377 who is talking to who :-) shall I private message you?12:36
cox377  Driver        "wacom"12:36
cox377  Driver        "wacom"12:36
cox377  Driver        "wacom"12:36
cox377        Driver          "via"12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
afm\colossuscox377: well, yeah, uhm - that's nice, but i've been alking to arso, really ;)12:36
cox377                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"12:36
cox377please do, but dont i have to register first?12:36
MistaED=/12:36
afm\colossusarso, paste it there: http://rafb.net/paste/12:36
arso/msg afm\colossus12:37
afm\colossusand provide us with the URL once you're done12:37
arso Driver          "kbd"12:37
arso        Driver          "mouse"12:37
arso  Driver        "wacom"12:37
arso  Driver        "wacom"12:37
afm\colossusyou can't /msg me, since i'm not regged on freenode12:37
arso  Driver        "wacom"12:37
arso        Driver          "ati"12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
Infecto_TOPIC!12:37
arso                Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x       400" "640x480"12:37
arsoomg sorry12:37
arsooh12:37
arsocok pasting there now12:37
afm\colossusheh.12:37
cox377psb154: let arso and afm finish first, then we shall dicuss12:38
robthanks for that12:38
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arsothanks cox37712:38
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afm\colossusarso: what kind of display have you got? a TFT, by any chance?12:38
arsono crt12:38
arsoand its 4 years old12:38
afm\colossusi see12:38
afm\colossuscan it do 85hz @ 1280x1024?12:39
arsono idea? sorry12:39
arsohow do i save that nopaste site? and giv eu the link12:39
afm\colossusjust hit the "paste"-button on the bottom of the textbox12:40
arsoi mean wat do i do after pasting12:40
afm\colossusthen copy and paste the url of the refreshed view12:40
arsohttp://rafb.net/paste/paste.php12:40
arsoi think this is it12:40
afm\colossushm nope12:41
arsodamn12:41
afm\colossussupposed to look sth like this:12:41
afm\colossushttp://rafb.net/paste/results/XhNul712.html12:41
cox377afm: did he not just paste it on screen?12:41
afm\colossusyeah, he did12:41
afm\colossusbut nonetheless it's important to know how this works ;)12:41
arsothanx ;)12:42
arsorefreshin now12:42
arsohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/vIeWXz30.html12:42
arsothere u go :)12:42
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afm\colossusgreat ;)12:42
arsohehe, linux seems great12:43
afm\colossusok12:43
Emessyou can edit X for teh dapper live cd yes?12:43
afm\colossuswhat resolution wuld you like to have?12:43
arsoumm wats the regular one?12:43
arsothis is just too big12:43
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arso1024*860? or wat is it12:43
afm\colossusEmess: yeah, just go nongraphical, edit xorg.conf, and restart gdm/kdm12:43
afm\colossus1024x76812:43
arsosure12:44
Emessfair nuff12:44
afm\colossusis your monitor 17 or 19 inches wide?12:44
arso1712:44
Emess1712:44
arsonot wide12:44
Emesslol12:44
arsolol12:44
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afm\colossusok, you still have that terminal open?12:44
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arsoyes12:45
arsowith all the info i pasted right12:45
afm\colossustype "sudo su -" in there12:45
afm\colossusand provide your user's password when asked12:45
arsoi dont have a password12:45
arsothis is the desktop version thing12:45
afm\colossus(you're elevating your privileges to those of the system's administrator, "root", by that)12:45
afm\colossusyou surely do have a password, i hope..12:46
arsono, i just booted the whole os from a cd12:46
arsono setup or anything12:46
arsoyet12:46
afm\colossusah, i see12:46
afm\colossuswell, that's fine anyway12:46
afm\colossusso you'll be root without being asked for a password12:46
arsoi see12:46
arsosudo su- ?12:46
afm\colossusok, we're about to edit the configs now via automated text processing12:46
afm\colossus"sudo su -"12:47
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afm\colossusnote the spaces12:47
arsonothing is happening, ya  i pasted urs directly12:47
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afm\colossusok, wait a sec12:48
arsosure12:48
afm\colossusyou're doing fine :)12:48
arsololl12:48
arsou think its gonna work out?12:48
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afm\colossusi think so ;)12:49
afm\colossusif we are lucky enogh to select proper reolutions and refresh rates, that is12:49
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afm\colossusok dude12:49
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arsoyes?12:49
afm\colossusif this somehow farks up your xorg.conf, nothing is lost12:50
arsookay12:50
afm\colossusso if you're left without a working graphical environment12:50
afm\colossusjust reboot the box12:50
arsook12:50
arsobtw is there a way12:50
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arsoto make a complete installation from this desktop cd?12:50
afm\colossusyes, of course12:50
afm\colossusthere's an icon on the desktop, afaik12:50
arsoand once i do that, will i be able to access my windows which is on another partition12:51
arsooh ya , theres an icon, install this system permanently...12:51
afm\colossusi don't use any other OD besides GNU/Linux, but it's popular to set it up along with Windows12:51
afm\colossus"OS", not "OD"12:52
afm\colossus._.12:52
afm\colossushowever, let's try to fix your problems first, ok?12:52
arsosure12:52
arsobut are u familiar with the dual boot process?12:52
afm\colossusi'd like you to fire off the line here in your terminal:12:52
afm\colossussed -i -r "s/(.*VertRefresh).*/\1 60-120/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:52
arsook12:52
arsonothing12:53
afm\colossusthat's great, just what i wanted to hear ;)12:53
afm\colossusok, one more sec pls12:53
arsolol,   thank god12:53
arsosure12:53
afm\colossusok, we'll ry our luck with this one next:12:54
arsosure12:55
afm\colossussed -i -r "s/\"[0-9] {3,4}x[0-9] {3,4}.*$/\"1024x768\"/g" /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:55
arsopaste the whole line u right, right?12:55
afm\colossusyes12:55
arsonothing12:55
arsohope u wanted to hear that12:55
afm\colossusyeah ;)12:55
arsophew12:55
|lostbyte|:)12:55
arsohello12:55
cox377should i also be following this?12:55
afm\colossusyou remmeber that "egrep-thing" we did in the beginning?12:56
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afm\colossuscox377: i don't think so, please wait a moment ;)12:56
arsothe one that i pasted to the non paste?12:56
cox377lol12:56
afm\colossusi'll turn my attention to you, then12:56
afm\colossusarso: yeah12:56
cox377 :                  )12:56
arsoya i remember it12:56
afm\colossusyou should be able to recall that command in your terminal12:56
afm\colossusby repeadetly pressing the  Curos-Up-key12:56
afm\colossusCursor*12:56
afm\colossus3 times or so12:57
arsonope only getting he laste two commands12:57
afm\colossuswe need to execute it once more12:57
arsothat gave us nothing12:57
afm\colossushm is see12:57
arsojust scroll up here?12:57
afm\colossusah well my bad12:57
afm\colossus:)12:57
afm\colossushit Ctrl+D in your terminal once12:57
afm\colossusthis will make you your normal livecd user again12:57
afm\colossusand HE should have the egrep line in his history12:57
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afm\colossusso press Cursor-Up as many times as it's needed12:58
afm\colossusexecute it12:58
afm\colossusand paste its output to nopaste once more, pelase12:58
arsowtf12:58
afm\colossusplease12:58
arsoumm12:58
arsoi pressed ctrl D , the terminal closed12:58
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afm\colossushm i see12:59
afm\colossuswell, that was not supposed to happen, tbh12:59
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arso"egrep "Driver|Modes" /etc/X11/xorg.conf"12:59
afm\colossusbut it's no drama, either12:59
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afm\colossusyeah, paste that in a newly spawned terminal12:59
arsohow do i open terminal again sorry12:59
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arsofrom run command wat do i type12:59
afm\colossusthere's an icon somewhere in the menus - but Alt+F2 ansd "konsole" in there works, too12:59
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arsoumm so sorry someone at the door brb01:00
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afm\colossusno problem01:00
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afm\colossuscox377: what's your problem again?01:00
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cox377basically, my max rez is 1024x78601:01
cox377and know how the card can support more01:01
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cox377 :P01:01
afm\colossuswhat resolution would you like to have?01:01
cox377128001:01
afm\colossuswhat gfx card have you got?01:01
cox377it's a01:02
cox377product: VT8237 PCI Bridge01:02
cox377             vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.01:02
afm\colossusthat's not your graphics card, but your PCI interconnect01:02
afm\colossusyou were the one with that savage thingie, right?01:02
cox377it's an intergrated card01:02
cox377yeh01:02
cox377sorry01:03
cox377was being dumb01:03
cox377description: VGA compatible controller01:03
cox377                product: VT8378 [S3 UniChrome]  Integrated Video01:03
cox377                vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.01:03
afm\colossusah01:03
afm\colossusunichrome01:03
scheurisounds pretty much like black and white01:03
cox377for me?01:03
arsoso sorry01:04
arsoback01:04
afm\colossuscox377: paste the output of `grep -i driver /var/log/X*` to nopaste, please01:04
afm\colossusarso: wb01:04
robyes, not here01:04
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arsothnx, i'll just wait till u guys finish01:05
cox377 http://rafb.net/paste/01:05
cox377so that site?01:05
afm\colossusyes, that's it01:05
robyep01:05
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cox377http://rafb.net/paste/results/C4zY3D77.html01:06
arsoso sorry to barge in, but is their an equivalant of notepad here in ubuntu?01:07
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afm\colossusarso: "gedit" in ubuntu, "kate" or "kwrite" in kubuntu01:07
arsothanx a lot01:08
afm\colossuscox377: ok, i'd need to have the output of `grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf` on nopaste, too, please01:08
omarguys .... whats wrong ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1674501:08
omarhelp please01:08
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cox377http://rafb.net/paste/results/ONRu8e36.html01:09
afm\colossusomar: did you enable universe and multiverse (or whatever it's called in dapper) repos?01:09
beastsalut a tt le monde01:09
omarafm\colossus: sure01:09
arsoENGLISH please? :)01:09
ErtainHello everyone.  My tablet still isn't working.  A person in #xorg now thinks that my tablet is being recognized as a mouse.  So what I did was suppress the loading of the evdev module (since it's a USB tablet) until it is needed.  (I did this by putting it on the module blacklist.)  I also went into the /etc/udev/rules.d and changed the order of when my mouse and tablet should be loaded.  I'm also wondering about the psmouse module.  Eve01:10
Ertainm wondering if this should be loaded.01:10
arsodamn 1 guy to help and 5 guys need help01:10
cox377lol i know01:10
cox377so get in line ; )01:11
omarafm\colossus: so ?01:11
afm\colossuscox377: ok, i guess a simple `sed -i -r "s/1024x768/1280x1024/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf`, followed by Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (save all unsaved work first, this will KILL X!) should make things work the way you want them to01:11
cox377afm\colossus01:11
cox377afm\colossus: is it right that it didn't do anything?01:11
afm\colossuscox377: if the output of `grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf` changed, it is :)01:12
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afm\colossusyou don't need to paste it once more, just check for yourself01:12
cox377:d01:12
|lostbyte|cox377, Go to system settings  >display and see if you can increase it now..01:12
cox377shall do01:12
cox377thanks very much01:13
arsoi am next please ! :D01:13
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: won't work unless he restarted X in the meantime01:13
|lostbyte|cox377, got to restart..01:13
afm\colossusarso: ok, have you got your terminal reopened by now?01:13
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, thought he did already..01:13
arsoyes01:13
afm\colossusok01:13
arsoi have and pasted the command01:13
afm\colossus`sudo su -` once more01:13
arsoand got the lines with resolution01:13
afm\colossusok, great :)01:13
arsoand pasted in no paste site01:14
arsoand got link01:14
afm\colossuswould you mind providing me with the link, too? ;)01:14
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|lostbyte|:)01:14
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arsohttp://rafb.net/paste/results/FpD2M369.html01:14
afm\colossusfantastic song ;)01:14
arsojust making sure that IS wat u wanted01:14
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omarhello ?01:14
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omarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1674501:15
arsostay in line omar, :P ur next01:15
afm\colossusarso: this bodes well :)01:15
omarhelp !01:15
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arsoyay01:15
cox377haha just restarted and it's gone to 800*60001:15
arsobut afm\colossus if i restart, will the stuff be saved, becoz as i mentioned, i have booted from a cd01:15
afm\colossusarso: no, it won't01:15
afm\colossusso you don't want to restart the whole system01:15
arsoso then, unless i install it permanently01:15
afm\colossusbut just the GUI01:15
|lostbyte|cox377, check in system settings..01:15
cox377i have done01:15
cox377thats the only option in there01:16
cox377:  (01:16
arsoafm\colossus:  can we have a private convo, its abit crowded here01:16
|lostbyte|omar, pls paste your source list ?01:16
afm\colossuscox377: try hitting Ctrl+Alt++  (that's indded a PLUS at the last posiiton)01:16
afm\colossusarso: i'm not regged on freenode, sorry01:16
afm\colossusarso: save your unsaved work, if any01:17
arsoumm nope01:17
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afm\colossusthen close all unused applications01:17
arsook01:17
arsoumm, which apps do u need?01:17
afm\colossusok, if you come up with a black screen01:17
cox377ctrl+alt+ whjat?01:17
afm\colossusor X unworking01:17
afm\colossusjust reboot the machine01:17
afm\colossusand we'll look for another solutuion01:17
arsosorry u talking to me ? or cox01:17
omar|lostbyte|: all is enabled .. the point is that I installed Xubuntu from the installation CD then I removed it using the package manager and installed Kubuntu using the package manager too ... could this be the cause of the problem01:17
omar?01:17
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|lostbyte|Cornellius, or simply tab :)01:18
afm\colossusto you, arso :)01:18
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arsook, sorry , so wat do i do now01:18
arsoi closed all apps except this01:18
omar|lostbyte|: here's my .list anyway http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1674701:18
afm\colossuscox377: ctrl alt and the + key01:18
cox377which restarts KDE?01:18
afm\colossusarso: ok, great01:18
afm\colossusafter hitting Ctrl+Alt+Backspace, X should kill and restart itself (with the new config in place)01:19
arsook so after it kills itself01:19
afm\colossuscox377: nope, this key combo cycles available resolutions in X01:19
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arsowat will happen?01:19
arsowat should i do to reload it01:19
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afm\colossusarso: you'll be logged in into KDE again01:19
arsoohyh restart itself, sorry01:19
arsook then. brb01:19
afm\colossusno user interaction required ;)01:19
afm\colossusgood luck!01:19
arsoi'll kill the mo fo now01:19
arsothanx ;)01:19
txwikinger2Anybody have an idea, why the KDE menu item don't automatically update ?01:20
bachstudiesanyone know how to make kubuntu dapper use my SBlive instead the external soundcard I have? Amarok seems to always use live but realplayer and the desktop sounds go through the external.01:20
afm\colossustxwikinger2: if in doubt, relogin01:20
txwikinger2:-)01:20
cox377all it's doing is entering = signs into here01:20
txwikinger2Don't ant to do that right now ;-)01:20
|lostbyte|omar, did you update ?01:20
afm\colossuscox377: hm that's somewhat strange indeed, are you sure about hitting the right keys? ;)01:20
bachstudiesI've tried asoundconf and the system settings only gives me the option of choosing between ALSA OSS etc and not my actual soundcards01:21
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ubuntudidnt work01:21
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arsodidnt work01:21
cox377sed -i -r "s/1024x768/1280x1024/" /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:21
cox377can i just reverse that01:21
arsowent to run comand, kcontrol>peropherals01:21
arsodisplay01:21
arsostill only one option01:21
omar|lostbyte|: apt-get update ?01:21
arso640*48001:21
|lostbyte|omar, yes01:22
afm\colossusgrrrmpf01:22
afm\colossus._O01:22
arso:'(01:22
arsocould it be, becoz of the desktop live thing01:22
afm\colossusare you behind a router, arso?01:22
omar|lostbyte|: sure I did01:22
arsoyes01:22
arsoi am01:22
afm\colossusdo you know how to forward ports on it?01:22
|lostbyte|omar, I have universe multiverse..01:22
arsonope01:22
afm\colossushm ok, so ssh falls flat01:23
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|lostbyte|omar, and back-ports are not required..01:23
afm\colossusman, this sucks - i should really write some script taking care of this X11 shit01:23
arsolol01:23
afm\colossusthe major showstopper for firsttimers01:23
arsoya01:23
arsobut it made me use kubuntu instead of suse 10.101:23
afm\colossusin fact, i began writing a script for that task yesterday01:23
afm\colossusbut it's far from finished01:23
arsolol good luck01:23
omar|lostbyte|: why doesnt the damn package install ?01:24
arsobut for now, u think theres any way?01:24
arsou think it might be different if i permanently install it/01:24
afm\colossushmm well01:24
arsoooh btw, one more thing01:24
arsowhen i try to access any partition01:24
arsoi get error01:24
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arsocould not mount device01:24
arsofor ALL partitions01:24
afm\colossushmm01:25
afm\colossuswhat FS are those partiitons formatted with?01:25
afm\colossusntfs?01:25
arsoya01:25
arsoi always do ntfs01:25
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[Nige] hi all01:25
|lostbyte|ntfs can be accessed not not writen to.01:25
[Nige] anyone having problems with thunderbird?01:25
afm\colossusmaybe ubuntu fails to set the mapped permissions for ntfs access...01:25
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afm\colossus(i'm using gentoo myself, don't know all too much about *ubuntu)01:25
arsobtw i am in Kubuntu if that makes any difference01:26
arsoso.. that leaves us,,,, ?/01:26
afm\colossusnope, that should not change anything01:26
arsoso could it be when we restarted X the configurations were not saved and applied?01:26
afm\colossuswell, there are ways to fix this, and i could do it in les than a minute, but it's painfully time-consuming when instructing someone via irc01:26
arsobecause its a live cd01:26
arsocan u try :D01:27
afm\colossusno, the configs were saved for sure01:27
afm\colossuswell, we can give this ntfs-stuff a quick shot if you like01:27
arsobut u deleted the 640*480 setting ,so how come from kcontrol its still there01:28
afm\colossus640x480 is always some kind of safe default01:28
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arsoi c01:28
arsobtw my data is important01:28
arsonot willing to reformat everythign or something01:28
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|lostbyte|arso, try mounting it manually ?01:29
afm\colossusyou won't have to do that for readonly access01:29
arsowats mounting :P ?01:29
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arsoinstalling it or something01:29
afm\colossusmounting = telling the kernel you'd like to access a fileystem somewhere under certain rules01:29
arsoi see01:29
|lostbyte|nope ! mount it what lets you access partions / drives..01:30
arsoi see01:30
arsois it something u can tell me through irc?01:30
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afm\colossuseverything in GNU/Linux can be done text-based, so yes, it is ;)01:30
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, "you won't have to do that for readonly access" ..?01:30
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: the linux kernel supports NTFS (in read only mode) for ages now01:31
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, Yeah ! and i belive he only wants to access them..01:31
arsonot only access01:32
arsoi want control01:32
arsoread/write01:32
psb154cox377 you still there?01:32
arsobut right now, i want to know if the resolution thing can be fixed01:32
|lostbyte|arso, cant write..01:32
arsoif thats possible01:32
arsowtf?01:32
acesuaresi thouhgt ntfs is read/write since 2-3 yuears01:32
acesuaresjust try it01:32
|lostbyte|arso, As its unsupprted on linux..01:32
arsooh01:32
afm\colossusarso: i firmly believe it can be fixed ;)01:32
arsoafm\colossus:  great01:32
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arsoonce thats fixed01:32
arsoi will permanently install kubuntu01:33
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: doesn't at least fglrx support his card?01:33
arsobut with the talk that i wouldbe able to use my hdd!?!?01:33
acesuareswith a live CD you can access the NTFS fully automated, they are mounted already. try kubuntu, ubuntu or mepis01:33
arsoi have 200gb of important data01:33
arsoacesuares:  i did try, i am o na live cd, and i get error01:33
arsoacesuares:  could not mount drives01:33
acesuaresarso: could not mount drives01:33
afm\colossusarso: yes, you would be able to access your data, but NTFS as a filesystem is not the best precondition for that01:33
acesuaresis a different problem.01:33
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, who's card ?01:34
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: arso's01:34
acesuaresTHey should automount and if that's not the case, there is some other problem01:34
afm\colossusthat Raedon Whatever 20001:34
arsoradeon series 20001:34
acesuaresdid you have problems with your NTFS partition ?01:34
arsoits quite new01:34
arsothe monitor is old01:34
arsotwo problems, ntfs partitions cant be acessed and resolution stuck on 640*48001:34
arsoafm\colossus:  is working on the latter :)01:35
acesuaresbut on non-linux, you have no problems with ntfs ?01:35
arsonope01:35
arsobeen using windows01:35
arsofor years01:35
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, has to..01:35
arsono probs01:35
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afm\colossusarso: best thing would be for you to dig up info on how to forward ports on your router01:35
arsowat does the router have to do with all this?01:35
afm\colossusif you can provide an experienced user with remote shell access on your machine, you'll have all those problems resolved in a matter of minutes01:36
arsoaltho i do remember something about port forwarding ,01:36
arsoi was trying to enable it01:36
arsofor torrents to get faster01:36
afm\colossuswell, your router performs some networking-trick called NAT or Masquerading01:36
arsoand couldnt fnd info on my router01:36
arsocan u hack me or someting and do it, lol01:36
afm\colossushehe, i fear not ;)01:36
arsou have a siemens speedstream 652001:36
afm\colossusbut if you can provide me the name of the router01:37
arsoi***01:37
afm\colossusi may be able to find docs about it01:37
afm\colossushmhm01:37
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acesuaresarso: check this and be assured that NORMALLY, there should be no problem:01:37
acesuareshttp://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#which_versions_of_ntfs_can_linux_read01:37
acesuares!help01:37
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage01:37
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, there are two settings, one for monitor and other resolution..01:37
|lostbyte|the monitor support which is automatically detected is not always right..01:38
arsoya and i have a old monitor 5 years01:38
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acesuares!ntfs01:38
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions01:38
afm\colossusarso: ok, you router is capable of portforwarding for sure01:38
acesuaresbye01:38
scottanyone got an experience with cedega? i cant install red alert 2 with it, can anyone help me?01:38
|lostbyte|If he could go into monito settings and put a generic one of 1280, it would work..01:38
arsoafm\colossus:  any more info on how to :P01:39
arso|lostbyte|:  umm where?01:39
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: the sed-magic i unleashed onto his xorg.conf already did that automatically01:39
|lostbyte|scott, You are playing for their support. so they will help..01:39
|lostbyte|paying*01:39
scottno one is respondin in their irc though :(01:39
afm\colossusscott: cedega support is done via their forums, i believe01:39
scottoky01:40
afm\colossusarso: i'm browing the manual of your router right now01:40
arsoafm\colossus:  thanx,01:40
arsojust a question, wat file system does linux use by default fat32?01:41
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|lostbyte|afm\colossus, what sync rate did you give him ?01:42
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afm\colossusarso: nope, windows filesystems have insufficient capabilites for UNIX-likeOS to run on01:42
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afm\colossusthere are many FS supported by the linux kernel, however01:43
afm\colossusthe default is ext301:43
arsoafm\colossus:  when we changed the configurations , where did they get saved?01:43
arsoafm\colossus:  i see01:43
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: X11 uses 85hz at most, anyway01:43
afm\colossusarso: they were saved to /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:43
|lostbyte|the horz and vert ?01:43
arsobut thats on a cd01:43
afm\colossusbtw, there are ext3 drivers for Windows, too01:43
arsoand the cd is not re-writable01:43
afm\colossuswww.fs-driver.org01:43
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, 70 is usually safe on old monitors01:44
afm\colossusarso: yes, the klernel use an advanced technology called unionfs to virtuelly write to files on the CD01:44
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, horz and vert ?01:44
afm\colossusit just keeps the changes in memory01:44
arsoafm\colossus:  cool, so they were saved 100%01:44
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: i just changed vertrefresh to 60-12001:44
afm\colossusarso: yes, they were01:44
arsoshould it be 50-12001:44
afm\colossusbtw, i found the guide on how to forward ports for your router01:44
arsoafm\colossus:  oh great, is it simple for me to follow?01:45
afm\colossusarso: no, 60 as the minimum is perfectly save for sure01:45
arsoi see01:45
afm\colossusarso: i think it's pretty well done01:45
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afm\colossushttp://subscriber.communications.siemens.com/documents/65xxug.pdf - page 8001:45
afm\colossusyou need to forward port number 2201:45
afm\colossusto the IP your PC gets assigned by your router01:45
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ErtainSay, if I'm using a USB mouse with a PS/2 converter, would I still need to load the "psmouse" module?01:46
Emesswhats the command to boot the dapper cd into console so i can edit xorg.conf so itll work?01:46
afm\colossusEmess: you don't have to do that01:47
arsoafm\colossus: opening the pdf now01:47
Emesshow so?01:47
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Emessit wont boot norma,lly, it crashes01:47
afm\colossusEmess: just hop over to a virtual terminal with, for example, Ctrl+Alt+F101:47
afm\colossusoh ok01:47
afm\colossushehe01:47
arsoafm\colossus:  just a question is konquerer based on firefox?01:48
afm\colossusarso: nope, konqueror uses a rendering engine of its own, called khtml01:48
n0ctuRnaL-fieNd!transparency01:48
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:48
afm\colossusEmess: try to append "single" to your kernel's boot parameters01:48
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arsoafm\colossus:  downloading pdf, gimme a minute01:49
afm\colossusarso: well, there's not much to do for me while you're editing your routers NAT tables according to the instructions in the manual01:50
afm\colossusthe only thing you need to know:01:50
afm\colossusProtocol TCP, port 2201:50
afm\colossusand the IP of your computer01:50
arsoare the instructions in the manual easy to follow01:50
arsowith no basic knowledge of linux01:50
afm\colossusyes01:50
arsookay good01:50
afm\colossusthey are OS-independent01:50
arsohow do i find my ip?01:51
afm\colossusall you need is a browser to configure the device01:51
afm\colossus`ifconfig` can tell you01:51
arsokonquerer works?01:51
afm\colossusyes, konqueror should work :)01:51
arsou mean ip? or if01:51
afm\colossusif01:51
afm\colossusnot ip01:51
afm\colossusif = interface01:51
arsolol ;p k sorry01:51
arsonothign opened01:51
tobias_Hi01:52
tobias_how to listen to mp3 with xmms?01:52
Emessok iv got a terminal up, now what?01:52
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Emessgot the mp3 codecs? tehn jsut open teh song in xmms01:52
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tobias_how to get the mp3 codecs Emess?01:53
afm\colossusarso: what do you mean?01:53
tobias_thats my problem ! iam newby01:53
EmessAdpet, or if you have a program called Automaitx you can just click it01:53
Emess*Adept01:53
tobias_Emess: whats the name of the package?01:53
arsoafm\colossus:  umm theres a problem01:53
afm\colossusarso: what exactly?01:54
arsoafm\colossus:  the router page i have shows only 2 options in security01:54
Emessmp3lib or something? not quite sure01:54
arsoafm\colossus:  in the pdf01:54
arsoafm\colossus: there are 401:54
afm\colossushmm01:54
arsoafm\colossus:  and the one i need aint there01:54
afm\colossusare the relevant ones missing?01:54
afm\colossusshit.01:54
afm\colossusmaybe there's a hint somewhere in the handbook on how to enable/recover the missing ones01:55
arsoill check01:55
afm\colossusok, good luck!01:55
arsobut they never were there since i bought the router last year01:55
Emessafm\colossus: nope, it locks up at X01:55
Emesscant install if the cd dont work01:55
arsook i mangaged01:55
tobias_Emess: in which repo multiverse?01:55
afm\colossusEmess: use the alternative install CD instead01:55
arsoomg i feel n00b, this is the first time isign in as admin into the page01:55
Emessalthough that computer jsut doesnt want to run any X01:55
afm\colossusit's textbased01:55
Emessmmm i havent got it tho01:56
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Emessand dont have speed to dl it before next week :P01:56
Emessor a car to drive to UWA and pick it up from their server, seeing as theyr the main au server :P01:56
afm\colossuslol arso ;>01:56
arsoafm\colossus:  never needed to ! lol01:56
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afm\colossusEmess: hmm what do you want your computer to do?01:57
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Emessrun X01:57
Emesswith KDE01:57
afm\colossus(why are you installing ubuntu without a desktop?)01:57
Emessand ubuntu'01:57
afm\colossusi see01:57
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afm\colossushm well01:57
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Emessi want to isntall a desktop, but i need to change some x settings first so it will actually boot01:57
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afm\colossusdo you know why exactly X fails to start?01:57
arsoafm\colossus:  which page was it? the thing we needed\01:58
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Emessno, but im assuming either my mouse or GPU01:58
jackal`insthi, im using xubuntu..but maybe u can help me :-/ my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes01:58
Emessbecause it loads for a sec in flux and then the mosue locks and teh whole thing freezes01:58
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arsofound it01:59
klerfaytwhat's the reason behind disabed smooth scrolling by default in konqueror?02:00
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arsoafm\colossus:  sorry need ur help a bit02:02
afm\colossusyeah, what's up?02:03
arsoafm\colossus:  umm from the port by pass thing02:03
arsotheres02:03
arsoadd a custom by pass entery02:03
arsoand in the pdf its not clear wat i should write02:03
arsopage 80/8102:03
afm\colossussec02:03
arsotheres selecting the service telnet/ftp blabal02:04
afm\colossuswell02:04
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afm\colossusyou choose "TCP" in the "Choose Protocol" dropdown box02:04
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arsook donethat02:05
arsoport 22 ?02:05
afm\colossusand enter 22 and 22 in the text files right to it02:05
arsook done02:05
afm\colossusthen you choose "redirect blah blah to IP Address:"02:05
afm\colossusand enter your IP in the textbox02:06
arsoya ok, thats selected, and ip is already written02:06
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arsoon default02:06
afm\colossusk02:06
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arsohow about service? no need to pick one02:06
afm\colossusnope02:06
arsook02:06
arsoso now i just reboot router?02:06
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afm\colossusclick apply02:06
afm\colossusmaybe it can do this on the fly02:07
afm\colossus(it should be able to)02:07
arsoEntry containing one or more of the requested ports already exists.02:07
afm\colossustry leaving the second field blank02:07
arsook02:07
afm\colossusso it read from 22 to none02:08
afm\colossusreads*02:08
arsok02:08
arsosame error02:08
arsoi'll try switching02:09
arsofirst empty second 2202:09
afm\colossusok02:09
arsoService name and port number are undefined.02:09
arsoYou must specify the service for TCP/UDP protocols - either by name or number.02:09
afm\colossustry 22000 instead of 2202:09
arsoin first or second02:10
afm\colossusfor both02:10
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arsoumm when i pressed apply02:11
arsoit refreshed the pa ge02:11
arsoand its working now02:11
arsoi think02:11
arsoProtocol  Port  Redirected to02:11
arsoIP Address  Enable/02:11
arso Disable  Edit  Delete02:11
arso  TCP  22  192.168.254. 1Disable1Edit1Delete102:11
arso  TCP  22000  192.168.254. 1Disable02:11
arsosorry bout that02:11
arsoya i belive its enabled for port 22 AND 2200002:12
afm\colossusuhm well02:12
afm\colossuswhatever02:12
afm\colossuswon't hurt anyone02:12
afm\colossusplease paste the output of `echo /etc/init.d/ssh*`02:13
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arso?02:13
arsoohh02:13
arsogo to terminal02:13
afm\colossusyeah ;)02:14
afm\colossusi prefer working there, anyway02:14
arsoi am sorry02:14
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arsowat should i paste in terminal?02:14
arsoecho /etc/init.d/ssh02:14
arsothat?02:14
afm\colossusno, don't forget about the * at the end02:14
arsooh ok02:14
afm\colossus`echo /etc/init.d/ssh*`02:15
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arsoumm  i press enter and the line is written underneat it again02:15
afm\colossusyou pasted it without the ``, right?02:15
arsoyes02:15
arsoi pasted : c02:16
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arsoecho /etc/init.d/ssh*02:16
afm\colossusso it doesn't put out anything like "/etc/init.d/sshd"?02:16
afm\colossusbut just "/etc/init.d/ssh*"?02:16
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arsoig02:16
arsowithout echo?02:16
afm\colossusyeah, without echo02:17
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arsoubuntu@ubuntu:~$ /etc/init.d/ssh*02:17
arsobash: /etc/init.d/ssh*: No such file or directory02:17
arso,,02:17
afm\colossusoh man, how shitty is that?02:17
afm\colossuskubuntu live doesn't come with sshd?02:17
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arsolol, dont ask me02:18
arsoumm hey are u familar with dual booting02:18
afm\colossusnot really, no02:18
arsocoz if u r, i'll just go permanently instal it now02:18
arsodamn02:18
afm\colossusi've set it up a few times of course02:18
afm\colossusbut i'm windows-free02:18
afm\colossusthere are guides on the forums for sure02:18
afm\colossuswww.ubuntuforums.org02:18
arsoi see02:18
arsoi guess i could go instal it permanently02:18
arsothen come back here02:19
afm\colossusit's a very friendly atmosphere there02:19
arsoya, cool02:19
afm\colossuswell, yes, it would make more sense02:19
arsoand if i dont understand anything i'll just ask u ;)02:19
afm\colossusif all the effort we put into that02:19
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afm\colossusis not lost once you reboot02:19
afm\colossus;)02:19
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arsobtw, do they pay u for this?02:19
arsoor are u just a visitor helping out n00bs02:19
afm\colossusnah, i'm just visiting02:19
arsoand are u usually here?02:19
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afm\colossusi don't even use (k)ubuntu myself, but i like the channel :)02:20
arsolol cool, thats weird tho02:20
arsobtw02:20
arsou know Amsn02:20
afm\colossusyeah02:20
arsocan u add people using msn on windows through it?02:20
afm\colossusi don't use proprietary IM protocols, though ;)02:20
arsowat do u use?02:20
afm\colossusyes, i think that's possible02:20
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|lostbyte|arso, yes ! you can.02:20
arsoanywhere i can add u02:20
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arso|lostbyte|:  thanx, great to hear that02:21
afm\colossusi use Jabber (it's also called XAMPP, and Google Talk is based on it)02:21
afm\colossusXMPP02:21
arsooh cool02:21
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, jabber :) which server ?02:21
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arsohow long are u guys staying here in this channel?02:21
afm\colossusi use google talk because of its logging-caps02:21
arsoi don wanna instal it come back, find u both gone and no body to help me :P02:22
afm\colossusall day and all night long, i fear ;)02:22
arsoyay02:22
arsolol02:22
arsohow old are u ? no job :P02:22
arsoor are u... AT JOB lol02:22
afm\colossus20 - student of CS and philosophy ;)02:22
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arsocool02:23
arsoi am 1602:23
|lostbyte|Student of BscIT02:23
arsocomputer and science and philosophy!?. how are they related02:23
arso|lostbyte|:  ??02:23
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arso|lostbyte|:  wats that:P02:23
|lostbyte|arso, Bachelors in Infrmation Technology02:23
arso|lostbyte|:  ahh i c ,cool02:23
arsou know each other in real life?02:23
|lostbyte|Nope :)02:24
arsohehe ic02:24
afm\colossusi don't anyone in here personal02:24
arsoi see, where do  u live? i am in dubai02:24
|lostbyte|USually we dont have personel talks here..02:24
afm\colossushttp://www.gnu.org/philosophy/02:24
|lostbyte|as per the rules..02:24
afm\colossus@ arso ;)02:24
arsolol, so i am breaking the rules her ehuh02:24
afm\colossusi'm from Austria, Central EU02:24
|lostbyte|ME, Kuwait !02:24
arsooh02:25
arsocool, ur near me, i am in dubai,UAE02:25
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|lostbyte|arso, Nice..02:25
arsoand last but not least, can i please have ur emails so i can contact u if i need help02:25
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|lostbyte|arso, I am registered on this nick.. so i am online here 24/702:26
arsooh ok02:26
arsoafm\colossus:  how about u?02:26
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afm\colossusyou can look up my contact info on my homepage02:26
afm\colossushttp://gnulords.org/~colo/02:26
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, DO they teach Linux in CS ?02:26
arsosure02:26
arsoya, my sis took it, but refuses to help me :(02:27
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: yeah, i'm tutor for UNIX-like operating systems02:27
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, i was born 25 of august.02:27
|lostbyte|:P02:27
afm\colossusthe subject is called "Technische Praxis der Computersysteme"02:27
arso? lol hows that relevant/02:27
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arsoafm\colossus:  oh ur not studying in english:02:27
anso, i installed kubuntu, it all went smooth.  but once i connect to an irc-server, it times out as soon as the motd shows up.  also i cant browse to 95% of the webpages including the forums.  Where should i look first ?02:27
afm\colossusno, pretty much everything german over here ;)02:28
arsowtf02:28
arsothe guy just starts asking a question02:28
arsoafm\colossus:  even the commands? :P02:28
afm\colossusan: you could try mointoring your network connection via ping02:28
afm\colossusarso: lol ;>02:28
arso:P02:29
anthat would work to see if there is a misshap, but it seems the network connection has a minor problem.  any suggestions where to look, and what to look for ?02:29
|lostbyte|arso, http://gnulords.org/~colo/img/myself/goodboy_2003.jpg02:30
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arso|lostbyte|:  yes?02:30
arsoafm\colossus:  wats good about gentoo?02:30
afm\colossusarso, read it here: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml02:31
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arso|lostbyte|:  wat is it?02:32
afm\colossusafk, eating. bbl.02:32
arsosure02:32
|lostbyte|ArmedGeek, afm\colossus's nerdy look :P02:32
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arso"Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes."02:34
arsointeresting02:34
arso|lostbyte|:  lol02:34
arsoso |lostbyte| are u kuwaity?02:35
|lostbyte|Nope ! Indian.02:35
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acesuaresarso: did you fix ur problem with ntfs ?02:35
arsoacesuares:  not yet, i am off to install kubuntu permanently02:35
arsothen i'll be back here02:36
arsoand tell u if it works or not02:36
arsojust reading up on gentoo a bit02:36
acesuaresarso: cool !02:36
arsoacesuares:  its my first day using linux :D02:36
acesuaresanb: what type of coinnection (adsl, dial-up ?)02:37
acesuaresan: what type of coinnection (adsl, dial-up ?)02:37
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arsook then everyone, i am off to instal, hope it doesnt take long02:37
arsobe back when i am done02:37
acesuaresarso: you'll rock like many beofre you ! :-)02:37
ana cable modem, through a little hub (the connection supports 4 ip addresses)02:37
arsoacesuares:  lol, thank u, wish i started earilier :(:(02:37
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arsoafm\colossus: |lostbyte| acesuares     brb02:38
acesuaresarso: never too late to learn :-) (and really, kubuntu dapper is a lot more fun then any distro in 1996 :-)))02:38
arsoacesuares:  dapper?,i guess i'll be trying many distros now on02:38
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acesuaresan: are you familiar with 'terminal' or the command line ?02:38
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arsobut herad (k)ubuntu is the best for a windows user to start with02:39
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acesuaresarso: a very good way.02:39
scheurihi all02:39
arsoacesuares:  i guess i'll be trying suse,dapper and gentoo later on02:39
anacesuares: yes, i am familiar with it (tho i would have to reboot into kubuntu again to use it)02:40
arsobye02:40
scott_quick question, ive got kubuntu installed atm, i want to install winxp on a partition (that i will make), however i know that installin it will wipe out grub in the bootloader, so after i install windows should i boot into kubuntu livecd then reinstall grub (some how :D)02:40
arsoumm02:40
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acesuaresarso: kubuntue's latest release is named 'Dapper Drake'  also referred to as 6.0602:40
acesuares!dapper02:40
ubotudapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"02:40
arsocan i remove the bottom task bar02:40
arsoacesuares:  ooh, so the one i am using now is dapper?02:40
acesuaresarso: I hipe so, else you need to find a new cd :-)02:41
arsoacesuares:  coz since the resolution is so big, the NEXT in the installation is hidden by the task bar02:41
arsoacesuares:  its the latest, offcial torrent downloaded yeterday02:41
acesuaresarso: I've seen that problem many many times, I don't like that problem...02:41
arsoso no way to remove the bottom taskbar , temporarily or anything02:41
acesuaresan: your connections is good with windows but bad with kubuntu ?02:42
anacesuares: that is correct02:43
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helterHi, I need help with my keyboard, anyone can help?02:44
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maniacxshi, got a problem with oowriter on Breezy. after doing some work in small documents i get *** glibc detected *** free() ....02:44
acesuaresan: i gotta go now but Imy guess is that it's in the dns. Check /etc/resolv.conf maybe ?02:44
acesuaresbye02:44
anacesuares: i will, thanks and bye02:45
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yurgood morning02:46
helterHi, I need help with my keyboard, anyone can help?02:46
yurwhats ur prob?02:47
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arsoOMG02:49
arsothis is bad02:49
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arsoso far i ve been managing to click through the taskbar for next02:50
arsobut at the partition selection place02:50
arsoi have 8 partitions+ the NEXT is too far down02:50
arsoi cant click on it through the taskbar02:50
arsoisnt there any way to hide the taskbar?02:50
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ubuntu_hey, how can i resize an ext3 partition?02:51
|lostbyte|ubuntu_, qtparted02:52
|lostbyte|arso, yes, check its options..02:52
arso|lostbyte|:  i managed to make the toolbar go <<< halfway02:52
afm\colossusarso: yes, there is02:52
arsooh how please?02:52
afm\colossusright click on it02:52
ubuntu_ive booted using the kubuntu livecd, but qtparted wont let me resize it02:52
afm\colossusselect configure panel02:52
afm\colossusand the "Hiding"02:52
arsoya i did it02:52
afm\colossusthen02:52
arsoshit02:53
arsothe parition selection thing02:53
arsois bigger then the screen02:53
ubuntu_it says its status is active though..02:53
afm\colossushehehe02:53
arsothe OK or NEXT is UNDER the edge of the screen02:53
afm\colossusENTER should work like clicking next02:53
afm\colossusor possibly Alt+K02:53
afm\colossusor sth like that02:53
arsoboth didnt work...02:54
arsoomg02:54
arsomaybe there isnt NEXT orr OK02:54
arsoi am at the place where i must select02:54
arsoone swap and one root02:54
arsoi did that02:54
arsoanything else i should do02:54
yurany1 tried the new ati driverz?02:55
arsoomg02:55
bachstudiesdoes anyone know if there is a way to make a program use a particular soundcard instead of the default?02:56
arsoso i am screwed?02:56
arso............?02:56
weihello02:56
scheuriyur: driverz?02:56
BKajIt too bad that programs like Google Earth don't come with the dependencies required :(02:56
arsoafm\colossus:  helllllllo?02:57
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arso|lostbyte|:  hellllllo02:57
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yuryup,the new ati gglrx on their website 4 linux02:57
arsoomg, no one is here to help me...02:57
afm\colossusarso: well, try holding down the Alt-Key and drap the window with the mouse02:57
afm\colossusdrag*02:58
ubuntu_can anyone answer my resizing question please?02:58
arsook02:58
arsoYAYAYAYAY02:58
arsoafm\colossus:  thank u02:58
arso:):LD02:59
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afm\colossusubuntu_: i believe it#s better not to try this with a kubuntu livecd02:59
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yurscheuri:yes,the new fglrx from ati site 4 linux02:59
ubuntu_surley its better to use a livecd to resize a partition than when using the actual distro on ur hd?03:00
afm\colossusbut rather with this here03:00
afm\colossushttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php03:00
arsogood bye03:00
arsoi continue my installation03:00
arsoafm\colossus:  thankx a lot03:00
afm\colossusbye, and the best of luck :)03:00
scheuriyur: sorry...cant help03:00
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arsoafm\colossus:  thanz03:01
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arsoafm\colossus:  i am having problems03:02
arsoi get an error03:02
arsoafter i select which partition to be root and astuff03:03
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afm\colossuswhich error?03:03
arsoin a minute03:03
arsoi'll tell u i am going thru installation a gain03:03
afm\colossusdo you have unpartitioned space on your disk?03:03
arsomaybe03:04
arsoa few mbs03:04
arsoi have 3 harddisks btw03:04
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jaimehm I have a problem running amarok, it sounds great but the stream doesn't work, I can see the name of the song but it doesn't sound03:04
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BKajroot partition rquires a minimum of 2G according to guide03:05
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arsoafm\colossus:  the test of the swap space in partition no7 of ide2 slave(hdd) found uncorrected errors03:05
yurwho have serious sam game working on ubuntu?03:05
yuri cant get it 2 work03:06
BKajswap should be 500mb to work03:06
afm\colossusarso: you better delete some of the partitions you don't need any more, and create fresh ones in their place03:06
arsoits 15gb - swap03:07
arsoafm\colossus: umm ok03:07
arsowt file system and how03:07
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arsothrough the installer, or from elsewhere03:08
BKajwow arso, that's a bit much :)03:08
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SeanTaterI think 32 bit systems can't hold much more swap than that03:09
arsoBKaj:  u mean 15gb? how much should i give it? wats the swap for anymore03:09
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SeanTaterarso: swap is where overflow goes when your memory is full03:09
afm\colossusarso: you can also delete the partitions from inside windows03:10
SeanTaterarso: I keep 1 GB swap, 15 GB is extreme03:10
BKajswap file is for helping memory dumps , it works in conjuction with it03:10
afm\colossusor the livecd i just pasted the url to a while back03:10
arsoafm\colossus: so how much space should i give swap?03:10
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afm\colossusnot more than 2 times your RAM03:10
arsomy ram is 1gb03:10
afm\colossusthat's a good rule of thumb03:10
arsoso 2 gb?03:10
arsoya read it a few places03:10
SeanTaterarso: that would work well03:10
BKajI agree with afm\colossus, 1 G is plenty03:10
arsoohhhhhhhhhhh03:10
arsoits virtual memory?03:11
SeanTaterarso: I have 512 MB ram, 1 GB swap03:11
afm\colossusyes03:11
afm\colossuslike windows' pagefile03:11
arsoi see03:11
afm\colossus(only faster :>)03:11
arsolol03:11
BKajhehe03:11
arsounix like fan boy :P03:11
afm\colossusno, it's a fact03:11
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arsocool03:11
arsoanother linux advantage03:11
afm\colossuswindows need to traverse the FS_layer to commit changes to swapped pages03:11
afm\colossusLinux does not03:11
arsocool03:11
afm\colossussince swap is a FS of its own03:11
arsoafm\colossus:  btw03:11
arsowat FS should i make the formats03:12
arsoand how much space should i giv ethe root03:12
afm\colossusgo for ext303:12
BKajI left 500Mb for my swap and I have no probs , but my mem is 1G03:12
arsoBKaj:  lol :P03:12
SeanTaterafm\colossus: so what if the swap is a file under ext3?03:12
arsoafm\colossus:  can i creat ext3 from windows? if so how03:12
afm\colossusSeanTater: that's a penalty to performance03:12
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arsonorton partition magic?03:12
afm\colossusarso: you can, but you should not03:12
arsoafm\colossus:  didnt u just tell me to?03:13
afm\colossusjust leave a nice amount of free, unpartitioned space for Kubuntu's installer03:13
SeanTaterafm\colossus: well, I;m glad I switched to a partition swap a whila ago03:13
arsoohh03:13
afm\colossusit takes care of creating partitions, and formatting them03:13
arsoso i'll just delete partitions without formatting03:13
arsoi see03:13
arsohow can i delte a partition i windows03:13
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arsoi ve never done that03:13
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arsoi always do it through the windows cd when installing03:13
afm\colossusi don't know where exactly for english windows versions03:14
BKajjust make sure you  the hda if yer running a windows partition03:14
SeanTaterarso: AFAIK, partitioning can only be done on live cd's if it can be done elsewhere, it;s new to me03:14
BKajkeep03:14
afm\colossusbut there is a utility integrated since nt 503:14
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lenny__hi03:14
SeanTaterlenny__: hellp03:14
SeanTaterlenny__: hello, that is03:14
arsoBKaj:  wat do u mean03:14
afm\colossushttp://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php - you can also kill/resize/whatever partiitons with this cd03:14
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arsoomg, another cd, i hope i have blanks03:15
arsoi think i can just use partition magic, its the best software by norton03:15
afm\colossusit's from paragon, i believe ;)03:15
afm\colossusbut it's decent, yes03:15
arsoso is 30gb unpartitioned space enough for linux? and does the root and swap have to be on the same harddisk03:15
SeanTaterafm\colossus: the installer (as in the one on the live cd) comes with qtpartied if you do it in expert mode03:15
BKajI would get asmall program called GParted and make sure you r boot sequence ids from the cdrom first03:16
arsoor is 15gb enough for both root and swap03:16
afm\colossusSeanTater: oh, nice03:16
afm\colossusdid not know that03:16
afm\colossusarso: 30gb is enough, yeah03:16
SeanTaterafm\colossus: I could not have done it with out qtparted03:16
BKajthen you can use GParted to partition your HDD03:16
afm\colossusthey don't need to reside on the same physical device03:16
furguarso: 30 gb is enough, maybe 2gb for swap and the rest root?03:16
arsoi see thanx03:16
furguor qtparted03:16
arsoso is there an option in installer03:17
BKajyes , either one03:17
arsoto make it take all unpartitioned space?03:17
BKajI use 30G and so far so good03:17
furguarso: you can have it auto-create the partitions that would work too03:17
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arsobut if i make it auto-create, it will only create partitions in unpartitioned space03:18
arsoor will it delete any other partitions?03:18
inc|freakyhi all. i have a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M 1437G and my CPU keeps running at 800Mhz and the cpu frequency scaling isnt supported (says powernowd when starting) ... what can i do to get this working? Pentium M (centrino, 2ghz)03:18
BKajOf course I'm having a tuff time getting samba to work on my windows network and programs like Google Earth that need a mile of dependencies in Linux :)03:18
furguonly in unpartitioned, you can delete partitions and then go back and tell it to auto-create if you want03:18
arsooh03:18
arsoso i can just delete thru the installer, without having to go to windwos and use partition magic03:18
furguyepp03:19
arsoafm\colossus:  why didnt u tell me : lol03:19
furguare you planning on dual booting arso?03:19
arsofurgu:  yes?03:19
BKajyeah arso, furgu knows his stuff :)03:19
arsofurgu:  any thing i should do from now to facilitate that03:19
furguare you planning on reinstalling windows then?03:19
arsofurgu:  no, i have a windows installation on another partition that i installed yesterday03:20
furgubut you have some free space arso?03:20
arsofurgu:  i guess, how much are we talking?03:20
BKajpartition magic can be dangerous ... it's also buggy as I found to my chagrin03:20
furgu30gb should be enough, is that how much you have?03:20
arsono i have more03:20
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arsoi have total 200gb03:21
furgufree?  unpartitioned?03:21
arso30gb free and another 20 and 18 gb03:21
arsoso total is 68gb :D03:21
kbrooksHas anyone here tried EasyUbuntu recently? does it work on kubuntu?03:21
arsofurgu:  no theyre not unpartitioned03:21
kbrookswe have fixed the bugs on kubuntu03:21
arsofurgu:  there are 2 partitions 15 gb each that are completely free, these are the ones i plan on03:22
arsofurgu:  deleting03:22
bachstudieskbrooks: hey remember I tried it and it works fine!03:22
arsofurgu:  to make 30 gb unpartitioned space03:22
guptakbrooks: yup, I had probs running easyubuntu on kubuntu03:22
kbrooksbachstudies: when?03:22
furguare the partitions next to each other asrso?03:22
kbrooksgupta: java and flash?03:22
arsofurgu:  no03:22
arsofurgu:  theyre on different hdd's as well i think03:22
bachstudieskbrooks: a month ago or something - remember I sent you the review!03:22
guptakbrooks: yup, flash had probs03:22
kbrooksgupta: we fixed these, so I strongly recommend you try again03:23
arsofurgu:  is that a problem?03:23
arsooffcource it is , omg03:23
h3sp4wngupta: I strongly recommend if its just flash you need you just install it from multiverse03:23
furguarso: that makes it a little more complicated, you can use the ubuntu installed to delete the partitions, as long as you know which ones they are.  Be careful, because it can't be undone, and you won't see thee windows drive letters (C:, D:, E:)03:23
arsofurgu:  it cant create a partition from unpartitioned space in two different hdds03:23
guptakbrooks: OK, But I installed that stuff myself :)03:23
furguarso: it should be able to do that03:23
arsofurgu:  wow, thats possible03:24
furguarso:  Unless you know which partitions belong to which drive letters I would delete the partitions in windows03:24
guptah3sp4wn: flash running without probs here03:24
arsofurgu:  how can i delete partitions in windows besides using partition magic?03:24
furguarso: you can have different directories on different partitions... no big deal in linux03:24
furguarso: what version of windows are you using?03:24
arsofurgu:  linux sure rox03:24
h3sp4wngupta: under konqueror ?03:24
arsofurgu:  sp203:24
furguarso, if you right click on My Computer, and go to Manage, you can edit your partitions in there03:25
arsoi see03:25
furguarso, be careful, back up everything important first03:25
guptah3sp4wn: yuk! under Opera03:25
arsofurgu: the partitions i am deleting are alrdy empty so no worries03:25
arsofurgu:  i'll go to windows then.. goodbye03:26
furguarso: well, I would back things up still03:26
furguwith any operation like this, okay arso?03:26
arsofurgu:  but theres 120gb roughly of data03:26
arsofurgu:  how can i back all that up03:26
furguarso, is all of it important?03:26
arsoi guess03:26
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arsoyears of hardwork03:26
arsofurgu:  but wat dangers are there03:27
arsothe important stuff is on different partitions03:27
furguif you have years of hard work arso, you should have backups.  What if a hard disk fails tomorrow?03:27
arsofurgu:  i plan on buying a 400 gb hdd later, for now, i am in a dangerous situation03:27
furguarso, how old is the hard drive with the important stuff on it?03:27
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scheuriarso: I backup on CD, usb-sticks and other harddrives...(even computers)...trust me...that eases your pain if something fails03:28
arsofurgu:   i have 3hdds , 120+40+40, the 120 is about 5/6months old03:28
arsoa 40 is 2 weeks old03:28
arsoand a 40 is 3 years old03:28
arsoi guess the 3 year old one , is the one in danger03:28
furguheh I didnt know they still make 40s03:28
arsofurgu:  i got it free somehow03:28
kbrooksih have 20 gb :P  furgu03:28
arsofurgu:  when u upgraded my pc03:28
furguarso, just be very careful when you start deleting things to make sure you are deleting the right partition03:28
arsofurgu:  yes sir03:29
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kbrooksfurgu: arso03:29
kbrooksfurgu: arso03:29
kbrooksfurgu: arso03:29
arsokbrooks:  yes?03:29
furguarso, good luck, and remember, dont panic03:29
arsokbrooks:  20gb lol03:29
kbrooksfurgu: deleting of partitions only occurs hen you commit03:29
arsofurgu:  yes sir, i stopped panicking last night03:29
furguheh03:29
arsofurgu:  i tried getting suse to work for hours03:29
furgukbrooks, thanks for the info03:29
scheuriarso: have you backed up before doing this here?03:30
furgu!partition03:30
kbrookscommit as in click install03:30
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks03:30
arsoscheuri:  doing wat?03:30
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scheuriarso: formating, installing ubuntu on harddisks and stuff...03:30
furgu!commit03:30
ubotuI know nothing about commit03:30
furgu!commitment03:30
ubotuI know nothing about commitment03:30
arsoscheuri:  i am still oan live cd03:30
arsoscheuri:  i am going to go delete 2 partitions now that i have already formatted yesterday so data loss is minimal03:30
scheuriarso: well, okay...it sounded like you are actually on your harddisks...03:30
furgudamn promiscuous bots03:31
scheuriarso: still...if something gets wrong....well...03:31
arsoscheuri:  no ia m discussing my deletion plans for the actual instalment now03:31
arsoscheuri:  god be with me03:31
arsogood bye then,03:31
arsooff to windows03:31
arsothanx everyone for ur advice03:31
scheuriarso: god has absolutely nothing to do with this...make a backup...because god is not doing that for you...:)03:31
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arsoscheuri:  too hard to backup 100gb+03:32
furguif lightning strikes the computer or floods the home it's an act of god, right?03:32
scheurifurgu: no comment03:32
furguheh03:32
arsolol03:32
scheuriarso: well....okay...03:32
arsook people, GOODBYE03:32
furgubye03:32
arsothanx alot  furgu,scheuri03:32
arsoi'll be back when i install it03:32
arsohow long does it take? roughly03:32
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h3sp4wnI think that that means you are not supposed to have the data in question03:32
arso30/40mins?03:32
furguabout that depending on your specs03:33
arso3.2 HT intel 1gb ram03:33
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furgushould be pretty quick03:33
arsoi want a xeon server T'T03:33
furguarso, do you have ATI card or Nvidia?03:33
arsoATI03:33
furguhmmm... ok03:33
arsointegrated with the mobo 256mb' radeon series 20003:34
furgujsyk ATI drivers for linux are poor, if you want to use OpenGL apps, if not no worries03:34
arsois it good, or should i get a nvidia03:34
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arsofurgu:  oh? so am i gonna have trouble?03:34
arsoohh nvm we'll leave that for later, now i instal fix the resolution problem and the mounting problem03:34
arsoGOOD BYE03:34
furguarso, you will be able to do everything but playing games or doing intense graphical things may make life difficult03:35
afm\colossusnvidia's proprietary drivers are of top notch quality03:35
furgusounds good03:35
furgulater03:35
afm\colossusati's aren't03:35
arsobye03:35
h3sp4wnThey are better than they used to be the ati ones03:35
furguelie was in here yesterday crying about the ati drivers03:35
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BKajnVidia has more driver issues than ATI in Linux03:36
furguwhat?  no way man03:36
furguBKaj, is this from experience?03:36
BKajfrom all the stuuf I've seen about them on the different Linux distro chats , that's my cocnclusion03:37
furguthats funny I have ready the opposite03:37
furguI have never had any problems with the nvidia drivers... rock solid03:37
BKajI'm using an elcheapo ATI on board xpress200 that uses the std driver03:38
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BKajno probs03:38
scheurihavent had any issues with nvidia either, never trie ati though03:38
furguonly issue is if you try to mix the ones from the nvidia website or the ubuntu packages03:38
furguSTD is open source?03:38
LiquidNerd_workopen sores?03:39
BKaj the driver that Kubuntu uses fro AtI03:39
furgustandard?03:39
furgudid you install a special package BKaj?03:39
BKajauto detection03:39
BKajno  furgu03:39
h3sp4wnThere is full 3d support with 9600 and below and the free drivers03:39
furguBKaj, you are using a non accelerated free driver03:39
furguBKaj no OpenGL for you03:40
h3sp4wnBKaj: He has acceleration03:40
h3sp4wnBy the experimental r300 driver03:40
BKajwell I don't know , actaully ...it's frgxl or something03:40
furguh3sp4wn, full acceleration as if the binary drivers were installed?03:40
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afm\colossush3sp4wn: in fact, r300 supports all cards from 9500 to X850XT03:41
furgudon't know sorry h3sp4wn is probably right03:41
afm\colossus"radeon" provides hardware glx support for 8500 to 925003:41
BKajI'm not tellling anyone to avoid nVidia , of course not , merely commenting on what i've seen in the chats03:42
h3sp4wnSee the x org 7 release notes (It mentions it but its experimental)03:42
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h3sp4wnafm\colossus: It crashes whenever you run a 3d application with an r35003:42
afm\colossusreally? i remember the dev-website stating that it runs flawlessly on a X85003:43
furguCan you do dual monitor setup on those drivers?03:43
h3sp4wnafm\colossus: You get about 10 seconds of acceleration then a hardlock03:43
afm\colossusfurgu: "radeon" can do03:43
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BKajtell me , what is 3d anyway ...exceptional resolution or something or... ?03:43
afm\colossusdon't know about r30003:43
arso123456hey its arso03:43
afm\colossush3sp4wn: i see03:43
arso123456from windows03:43
afm\colossuswhat about r300?03:43
afm\colossuswb arso03:44
arso123456ya03:44
arso123456i forgot , how do i delete partitions from windows again :P03:44
arso123456i was told but forgot again :S03:44
furguright click My Computer, go to Manage03:44
arso123456ok>?03:44
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arso123456i see03:45
furguin the Management window there will be a partitions option somewhere in the list on the right03:45
furguok03:45
arso123456disk management03:45
arso123456thnx03:45
furgunp03:45
h3sp4wnr300 is supposed to be ok (with upto 9600XT or certain enbedded cards - just the ones with 4 pipes though)03:45
arso123456furgu do i need to do something from now to dual boot later?03:45
furgunope arsol, linux takes care of that03:45
arso123456furgu and another thing, luckily both partitions are on the same drive03:46
arso123456and on the new hdd from 2 weeks03:46
arso123456furgu "delete logical drive" ?03:46
furguBKaj, 3d is like 3d graphics... google Earth uses opengl03:46
h3sp4wnBJaj: run glxinfo | grep direct (If you get direct rendering yes its working)03:46
furguarsol, I think so, you right clicked on the drive letter and selected delete?03:47
arso123456there isnt delete03:47
arso123456theres delete logical drive03:47
arso123456just checking thats the right one03:48
furguI think so let me fire up vmware to make sure03:48
arso123456ok03:48
arso123456umm wats vmware? :P03:48
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BKajh3sp4wn: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual03:49
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afm\colossush3sp4wn: so radeon 9700 and above won't work reliably as of now?03:49
mackymanHello! I have a problem with getting my mp3's to work under my fresh installed kubuntu. Culd anyone help?03:49
h3sp4wnafm\colossus: I don't even think the 9500 will03:49
robotgeek!codecs03:49
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:49
furguvmware is a program to emulate a computer so you can install other operating systems03:49
arso123456oh cool03:50
arso123456so thats wat u use for dual booting?03:50
furguits not working for some reason tho03:50
afm\colossuswhy? doesn't the 9500 have just 4 ipes as well?03:50
afm\colossuspipes*03:50
h3sp4wnafm\colossus: I want to try xorg 7.1 and the development version of mesa to make sure though03:50
furguif that the only option I am pretty sure thats it03:50
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arso123456and is that wat I should use for dual booting03:50
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afm\colossush3sp4wn: do you happen to have quake3?03:50
h3sp4wn<afm\colossus>: No03:50
afm\colossusi'd really like to have someone run a few bacnhmarks on a r300-driven card03:50
ninHerhi all03:51
furguarsol123456, ubuntu will install a special program that will give you a choice between windows and linux when you boot03:51
afm\colossush3sp4wn: would you mind leeching about 500mb? ;)03:51
mackymanI have already checked there... But I can't get the libxine-extracodecs03:51
mackymanIt doesn't exist...03:51
scheurianyone good with tar? I would like to tar my whole /home/[user]  and preserve the chmod's of dirs/files within that archive...is that possible?03:51
h3sp4wnafm\colossus: What do you mean ? Can I do it at 200 k/s or better ?03:51
afm\colossusscheuri: tar -cpf /path/to/tarfile.tar ~03:51
afm\colossush3sp4wn: 100mbit03:52
scheuriafm\colossus: so cpf are the options? thousand thanks!03:52
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furguscheuri: cd /; tar czpf something.tgz /home/[user] 03:52
afm\colossusz uses gzip encryption03:52
h3sp4wnafm\colossus: I don't understand what you want03:52
LiquidNerd_workif you did "cp ~/ ~/" would that work/create an endless loop03:52
afm\colossush3sp4wn: one moment, please :)03:53
furguthanks LiquidNerd_work03:53
arso123456furgu do i have to instal that program03:53
scheurifurgu: and afm\colossus thanks a lot!03:53
arso123456furgu or does it instal on its own03:53
furguno it will do it for you arsol12345603:53
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furgu<afm\colossus> gzip isnt encryption its compression03:54
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afm\colossuswell yeah, that#s what i wanted to say anyway ;)03:54
furguheh, time for coffee03:54
afm\colossusalthough every method of encoding is also a form of encryption ;)03:54
furgu<afm\colossus>, yeah, if you consider rot13 'encryption' then I guess03:55
afm\colossusof course ;)03:55
afm\colossuseven clear text is encryption03:55
furguheh03:55
furguwords _are_ hard03:55
furgu!words03:56
ubotuI know nothing about words03:56
BKajOptions marked [*]  produce a lot of output - pipe it through `less' or `more' ! ...WTF does that mean?03:56
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furguwait, doesnt tar preserve permissions anyways, you only need the p when extracting?03:57
DeadS0ul1`BKaj: you've never tried pipping through less?03:58
furguBKaj, you need to do more pipe research03:58
furgu!pipe03:58
DeadS0ul1`BKaj: in Windows command line or DOS have you ever typed in 'dir' and had a screen full names flash past you?03:58
ubotuI know nothing about pipe03:59
furgu!less03:59
ubotuI know nothing about less03:59
BKajI'm trying to get Kmplayer to work , it's there in konqueror but it doesn't install ...it resides here :kmplayer-base_0.9.1.99+0.9.2-rc1-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb03:59
furgu!info less03:59
ubotuless: Pager program similar to more. In repository main, is important. Version 394-1 (dapper), package size 106 kB, installed size 268 kB03:59
furguits a pipe dream03:59
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kbrookshttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1195079#post119507904:00
DeadS0ul1`use the command dpkg -i kmplayer ..wtaver...to install it04:00
BKajDesktop   GoogleEarthLinux.bin                   Streamtuner\ &\ Dependencies04:00
BKajExamples  libgtk2.0-0_2.8.17-1ubuntu5_amd64.deb04:00
BKajkaj@BEDROOM:~$04:00
kbrooksbachstudies: ping04:00
bachstudieskbrooks: yep?04:01
kbrooksbachstudies: wassup? :-)04:01
DeadS0ul1`BKaj: install libgtk2 =P04:01
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bachstudieskbrooks: not much...just solved a soundcard issue in kubuntu due to having two cards04:01
bachstudieskbrooks: how's easyubuntu going?04:02
BKajdea04:02
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kbrooksbachstudies: good. you will be able to run easyubuntu as an user when 3.1 is out (i implemented it)04:02
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bachstudieskbrooks: you mean without using sudo?04:03
BKajDeadS0ul: cannot stat `libgtk2': No such file or directory04:03
kbrookscorrect04:03
bachstudieskbrooks: is that wise??!!!04:03
DeadS0uluse apt-cache search gtk204:03
furgu!easyubuntu04:03
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:03
kbrooksbachstudies: it asks you for your user password when you choose to install04:03
bachstudieskbrooks: very nice04:04
DeadS0ul..it'll lsit out all the packages, hopefully you find libgtk2 there.  once you use do apt-get install libgtk2 ..or wahtever the package name is04:04
kbrooksbachstudies: it's very wise04:04
bachstudieskbrooks: my ubuntu & kubuntu dapper CDs came through the post this morning04:04
kbrooksbachstudies: good04:04
bachstudieskbrooks: now i just need to decide who to give them to (i also got 12 stickers with it!)04:05
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kbrooksbachstudies: 12 stickers?04:05
kbrooksbachstudies: nice04:05
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bachstudieskbrooks: yep...put one on my wife's laptop even though she can't run it!04:06
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kbrooksbachstudies: i'm patiently waiting for my CDs04:06
kbrooksbachstudies: i have my old breezy cds still04:06
bachstudieskbrooks: so do i actually04:06
bachstudieskbrooks: doing well though...i ordered 50 a while ago and shifted nearly all of them at university04:07
kbrooksbachstudies: wow04:07
bachstudieskbrooks: i like spreading the word!04:07
kbrooksbachstudies: look at this thread, and/or reply, please... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=119507904:07
bachstudieskbrooks: must go and shop...but nice to chat and catch you around later (I'll have a look at your link quickly and respond later)04:08
kbrooksbachstudies: bye04:08
h3sp4wnkbrooks: Does easyubuntu now setup flash under konqueror ?04:08
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ubuntu_yo04:08
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arsoi am in linux04:08
kbrooksh3sp4wn: i don't run kubuntu, so i can't help robotgeek with that. i plan to04:09
arsolinux this time04:09
arsopartitions deleted04:09
arsogonna run installation now04:09
kbrooksh3sp4wn: when the ubuntu/kubuntu cds are sent04:09
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furguyay arso04:09
BKajDeadS0ul:04:09
BKajlibgtk2.0-0 is already the newest version.04:09
BKaj0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:09
h3sp4wnkbrooks: But at this moment the fixes are just for under firefox ?04:09
DeadS0ulXD04:09
arsofurgu:  :D04:10
DeadS0ulduno what's wrong then04:10
kbrooksh3sp4wn: I think it setups flash for firefox04:10
arsofurgu:  i hope ur sticking around, coz after i instal theres some problems we need to fix04:10
arsofurgu:  the old resolution problem, and the unable to mount hard disks problm04:10
furguokay arso, someone here should be able to get you setup04:11
BKajyeah DeadS0ul , I'm also having trouble with kmplayer , it won't install, I don't have executable permission :(04:11
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MilhousePunkRockHello everyone04:11
DeadS0ulBKaj: have you treid kaffeine?04:12
BKajDeadS0ul:  I try to make the file extecutable but the permission box is greyed out04:12
MilhousePunkRockhow does installing something with make make install ... work?04:12
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furguanybody know why my /boot partition is mounted as read only?04:13
furguwhy it might be04:13
BKajI'd like to be able to play windows media files that are on some websites , kafeine won't do it but kmplayer does04:13
xwolf-somebody from here told me to use vlc04:14
xwolf-it hasn't disappointed me so far.04:14
furguVLC is awesome!04:14
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_marekwhat's the equivalent of windows commander for linux ?04:14
BKajwhat distro xwolf- ?04:14
MilhousePunkRockvlc is a great player (at least on windows)04:14
furguBut for embedded stuff in webpages I use mplayer04:14
xwolf-BKaj exactly the channel you're on.04:15
xwolf-_marek bash?04:15
BKajdapper?04:15
xwolf-yeap04:15
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_mareki meant something with gui ? I had some once but i forgot the name,04:15
furguanyone know how to find what resources are using a device? (boot partition in this case?)04:16
BKajwhere did ya find vlc , in apt or synaptic04:16
BKaj?04:16
xwolf-_marek  konsole04:16
xwolf-BKaj  adept :)04:16
xwolf-but it's all the same thing... 'apt-get install vlc' for command-line04:16
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BKajxwolf-: it isn't there as vlc or VLC04:18
MilhousePunkRocktry video lan instead04:18
byenhey Guys04:18
byeni have a question04:18
byenmy external HD is not recognized anymore on dapper but worked out of the box on breezy04:19
JohnFluxBKaj: amd64 ?04:19
BKajE: Couldn't find package vlc04:19
xwolf-well, take a look at your repos04:19
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MilhousePunkRockBKaj: Check your sources, I can see it in adept04:19
BKajyup xwolf- AMD6404:19
JohnFluxBKaj: I couldn't find it either04:19
JohnFluxBKaj: I was looking this morning04:19
furgubyen: is it formatted in windows?04:19
byenits is fat3204:19
JohnFluxBKaj: I think it might not be an amd64 package04:19
JohnFluxBKaj: I think there might not be an amd64 package04:20
BKajright JohnFlux, no luck :(04:20
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byenand has worked on breezy furgu , after i installed dapper BAM04:20
BKajyeah JohnFlux, seems so04:20
LynoureHmm, I want a tshirt that says "Windows is FAT"04:20
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furgubyen, I had to install usbmount and follow the direction in /usr/share/doc/usbmount/ to make it work04:20
JohnFluxbyen: if you go to system:/   can you find it?04:20
JohnFluxbyen: in konqueror04:20
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furgufor a thumb drive anyways byen04:21
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waylandbillHello, does anyone know how to simulate mapping a network drive (samba share) under wine?04:21
byennot there JohnFlux04:21
BKajto get back to my original prob,I would like to get kmplayer working but it seems I don't have root permission ...why is that ?04:22
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amitojhi everybody04:22
amitoji need some help04:23
amitojcan someone help me04:23
furgu!help04:23
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage04:23
furgumaybe amitoj, whats up>04:23
amitoji just received kubuntu cds04:24
amitoji live in INdia04:24
amitoji am installing kubuntu04:24
furgu!in04:24
ubotuI know nothing about in04:24
byenthanks anyways fellas04:24
furguok04:24
furgukeep going04:24
amitojwhen it asks for partition selection04:24
amitoji select my first hard disk04:24
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amitojthen i have three options04:25
amitoj1. asks for some free space04:25
BKajJohnFlux: I have VLC in Konq as well , but it doesn't show in adept or synaptic04:25
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amitoj2. free entire hard disk04:25
amitoj3. manually partition04:25
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amitoji wanted to know what will happen if i choose 1st option04:25
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amitojand i get an error when i selct 3 option04:25
amitojcan you help me04:26
furguamitoj, what error do you get?04:26
amitojits some error that says installer will close now04:26
furguamitoj, what version are your ubuntu disks?  6.06?04:26
amitojyes04:27
amitoj6.0604:27
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furguamitoj, can you try a different CD and see if option 3 works?  A more detailed error message would be helpful04:27
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amitoji tried 3 cds04:27
amitojwhat does ist option do04:28
Kbuzzwill grub allow a 2nd linux installationg?04:28
furguamitoj, Are you using the installed in English or Indian?04:28
amitojwill it wipe all the data04:28
negocioi have a unkonwn partition named hda2 that i never create04:28
furguamitoj, I think it will use whatever space you have free04:28
negociohow do i deleteit_04:28
amitojEnglish04:28
negocio?04:28
arsofurgu:  i need help please04:28
furguarso whats up?04:28
amitojyou mean it will not delete any data04:28
arsofurgu:  i am at the place where they show the partitions04:28
arsofurgu:  and where i have select a partition for root and shared04:29
arsofurgu:  but it only shows the existing partitions04:29
arsofurgu:  where do i make it create new partitions04:29
furguarso, if you can tell it to just use your free space that would be easiest...04:29
arsofurgu:  where??!? i looked04:29
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arsofurgu:  ohhh, use the largest free space?04:30
amitojfurgu: will it be treating  unpartitioned space as free04:30
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arsofurgu:  yup, it automatically made one ext3 and one as swap04:30
arsobut does it auto give swap double my ram?04:30
negocioi install kubuntu from the start04:31
amitojhey arso, did it wipe out data using that option04:31
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furguarso: that should be ok give it a shot... your partitions are funny so I dunno it should work ok04:31
negocioi create only two parition the hda1 for files and the other for swap04:31
arsoamitoj:  no04:31
furguamitoj, I am trying to look for a walkthrough...04:31
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arsofurgu:  ok, any ideas how much it gives on defaultfor swap04:31
furguamitoj, it has been awhile not too sure exactly what screen you are on04:31
amitojarso: you selected the first option???04:31
negociobut, now when i check the partitions i have another one with 1 kb size named /dev/hda204:32
furguarso: it should be enough, no worries04:32
arsoamitoj:  no. i picked use largest continous free data04:32
amitojfurgu i am in 4th04:32
negociowhere it come from?04:32
arsoamitoj:  and then it created two new partitions, i had 7 it shows partition 8 and 904:32
arsoamitoj:  are swap and root (/_04:32
amitojarso ,i am on the screen that selects the hard disk and manual partition04:33
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arsofurgu:  oh wait it didnt, it said partition 2 and 6!!!!04:33
arsoamitoj:  hold on , i told u wrong04:33
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arsoamitoj:  dont proceed, somethings wrong, its taking up other partitions i think04:33
amitojarso: ok04:33
BKajsigh, konsole can't find files in Konq !! WTF ?!!!04:33
negociohello? can anyone help me please?04:33
furgu!install04:34
ubotuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues04:34
arsofurgu:  i think i'll go to windows, create a 30 gb partition04:34
arsoand then let kubuntu reformat it04:34
arsoamitoj:  wats ur problem? how many partitions do u have04:34
furguarso: you might be able to move the partition so that its one contiguous free space04:34
amitojarso: i have 2 hard disks04:35
arsoamitoj:  and partitions?04:35
BKajarso try Q or GParted , it's alott better at making the right partitions04:35
amitojarso: with 2 partitions on 1, and a single hard disk04:35
arsofurgu:  i am checking all the options now04:35
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arsoBKaj:  sorry wats that?04:35
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arsoamitoj:  so u plan on making the whole hard disk for linux?04:35
furguthose install instructions are crap, I'm sorry04:35
amitojarso, no04:35
furgusomeone should fix that04:35
negociohi04:35
negocioi need some help04:35
arsook i selected the unparitioned space04:35
arsoright click04:35
arsocreate04:35
arsonew partition04:35
arsoin xt3 or wateva04:36
amitojok04:36
arsoext304:36
BKajQParted or Gparted  id simpler to use and sag-fer than Partition Magig , DLit and burn it to a cd04:36
negocioin kubuntu i have a new partition with 1 kb size, that i never create, can i delete?04:36
arsoamitoj u should ask the pros, i am a newbie too, sorry04:36
BKajsafer04:36
furgunegocio, no dont touch it04:36
amitojarso, my installation doesn't show partitons when i select manually parttion04:37
arsoamitoj:  oh,04:37
furguamitoj, you might want to try #ubuntu-in channel04:37
furgu!#ubuntu-in04:37
ubotuI know nothing about #ubuntu-in04:37
charlie5hi ... sorry to butt in ... Konqeror is asking if I should d/l Shockwave Flash Media plugin ... do I need it and is it safe or should i use a package from Kubu via Adept ?04:37
negociowhy furgu?04:38
negocioi install kubuntu before, and this is the first time i have it04:38
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amitojfurgo, thanks alot04:38
furgunegocio, because it might screw something up and cause more problems, delete it at your own risk04:38
negociook, i leave it04:39
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furguneogocio, if it is a fresh install go back and manually partition04:39
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furgunegocio, sometimes there is 1kb of free space at the end of a drive04:39
furgunegocio, is it being mounted?04:40
negocioi do two manually partitions04:40
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negociono, isnt mounted04:40
arsofurgu:  i created space from unpartitioned then formated them with ext3 but when it tells me to select which partitions for swap and root04:40
arsofurgu:  but it doesnt show the 2 new partitions i created04:41
furguarso: did you click 'apply' or something like that?  commit or dunno... been awhile since I did a fresh install04:41
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arsofurgu:  yea04:41
furgunegocio: I wouldnt worry about it...04:42
arsoseems not04:42
arsowhen i went back04:42
arsoit shows them as un formatteed04:42
negociook04:42
negociothanks04:42
negociobye04:42
arsook i "commit"ed this time04:42
arsoand said operation successful04:42
arsobut when its listing04:43
arsoit shows type04:43
arso"unknown" for both new04:43
arsoeven tho i created them as ext304:43
arsoi set them as active04:43
arsoand commit04:44
arsostill doesnt show up/.//04:44
arsowtf04:44
arsoare u there?04:44
arsoi set it commit, go forward doesnt show, go back , its unformatted again, wtf04:44
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jonathan_has anyone else noticed us.archive.ubuntu.com is very slow or halts at 99% ?04:45
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arsoi created the small one as linux swap04:45
arsoand it worked04:45
arsoin type shows linux swap04:46
arsobut the ext3 still isnt working04:46
arsoshould i try a different FS04:46
arsoHELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLO04:46
gnomefreakjonathan_: take the us. out of the repos by typing sudo sed -e 's/us\.// -i /etc/apt/sources.list04:46
arsodoes it matter if itry ext2\?04:47
furguarso sorry04:47
arsofurgu:  ur back?04:47
furguarso I am04:47
arsofurgu:  phew!04:47
furguarso, do you have the option for mount point?04:47
arsofurgu:  i am commiting now, and i have a fealing it will work, i formatted the big one as EXT2 tho04:47
furguarso, one type should be ext3, for root, the other should be swap, for swap04:47
arsook04:48
guptaI am trying to install glipper on kubuntu, ./configure gives "error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool"04:48
furguthe swap only need to be 1-2gb arso04:48
arsothe one for swap04:48
arsoya i made it . gb04:48
arsothe swa04:48
arsoswap04:48
guptaanyideas?04:48
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arsoand it shows used .0.0gb and file type and everything04:48
arsobut its still now showing when i press next04:48
furgufor the ext3 it should be mounted as '/'04:48
jonathan_hmm. are the us repos known to go down?04:48
arsoand it shows a list of partitiong04:48
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arsohow do i mount04:49
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arsoand when i press next it says u must unmound04:49
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furguarso, it should be an option when you select the filesystem type maybe?04:49
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arsofurgu:  nope not there04:49
arsonow i just preses commit for format as ext304:49
furguokay when you commit you are getting an error now arso?04:50
alii have a  realy 2 annoying problemz ca some1 help?04:50
arsooperation succesful04:50
arsono04:50
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arsobut when i clicked commit04:50
arsothey said blabla04:50
arsou must umount04:50
arsoi pressed yes04:50
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furguarso, everything looks ok now?04:50
arsolooks ya04:50
arsoi am gonna click nex04:50
arsoits gonna ask to unmount04:50
arsoshould i yes or no04:50
furguarso, yes04:50
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arsowhen i click next04:52
guptaI am trying to install glipper on kubuntu, ./configure gives "error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool" . Which package am I missing now?04:52
arsothe 2 new partitions are still not showing!!!04:52
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furguarso, what exactly do you see on the screen?04:52
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arsoa list of partitions04:53
arsoand on the left theres selection04:53
arsodrop down04:53
arsowhere u pick root or swap or wateva04:53
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furguso you are in the partition manager still arso?04:53
arsoyes04:53
furguclick ok or close or back or whatever to get out of that arso04:54
arsook04:54
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furguarso, what do you see now?04:55
arsofurgu:  ok i aborted installation04:55
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furguarso, restart installation and walk me through step by step what you see04:55
arsook04:55
arsofirst language04:55
arsonow time04:55
arsokeyboard layout04:55
arsousername and pass and stuff04:56
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arsoselet a disk04:56
arsoit shows whole harddisks04:56
arso3 of them04:56
furguok wait04:56
arso4 - use the largest continous space04:56
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furguarso, are the two partition on one physical disk?04:57
arso5- manually edit partition table04:57
arsofurgu:  yes!04:57
arsofurgu:  on the third one04:57
arsofurgu: hdd04:57
furguarso, tell me all the options again04:57
arsotheres hda hdb and hdc04:57
arsothen theres use the largest continous space04:57
arsothen theres manually edit partition table04:57
furguarso, is the 30gb continuous?04:58
arsodoes master/slave matteR? coz the whole 3d hdd is slave04:58
furguarso no it doesnt04:58
arsoi formatted them , yes theyre continous04:58
arsothey are 28gb and 1.56 gb now04:58
furguarso, try option 4 and see how that works04:58
furguarso, the the partitions are created?04:58
arsofailed to partition the selected disk04:58
arsoyes i already created them last installation04:59
furguarso, go back and manually edit the partition table and delete those, then commit04:59
arsoi pressed ok04:59
arsook04:59
arsook done05:00
arsonow select hdd3 which has them05:00
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furguarso, go back and try option 4 again05:00
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arsook05:01
arsook05:01
arsoit showed me a place05:01
arsowith all the info i selected05:01
arsoand said05:01
arsoit will use05:01
arsoThe following partitions are going to be formatted:05:01
arso     partition #6 of /dev/hdd as swap05:01
arso     partition #2 of /dev/hdd as ext305:01
arsoomg ,sorry, forgot i am not allowed to do that05:02
furguarso, why?05:02
arsoby hdd does it mean hard disk D or hard disk drive,05:02
furguhdd is wrong drive?05:02
arsoi mean allowed to paste like that05:02
arsono hdd is the right drive05:02
arsotheres a,b,d05:02
arsoand d is the right one05:02
furguok05:02
arsook then05:02
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arsook now click install05:03
arsoso i will have to go05:03
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arsobye bye05:04
arsothanks alot05:04
arsour da man05:04
furguok arso, bye05:04
furgunp05:04
arso;) later05:04
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furguali are you there still?05:06
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aliyup05:08
BKajbut he isn't :)05:08
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furguwow I have never seen it this quiet05:19
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usuariohello05:21
usuarioi need some help05:21
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usuarioi want to know and change the color depth of my kubuntu desktop, but i don't know how05:21
usuariocould anybody help me??05:22
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usuario...05:23
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abhijeetguys anyone got the shipit cds.05:31
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Hobbseeabhijeet: some people did05:31
abhijeetok.05:32
furgu<usuario>, did you try System Settings?05:32
epinephrinemy kubuntu CDs came yesterday05:32
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alihow 2 enable XGL?05:34
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andrew_hi05:34
guptaabhijeet:  Oh yes I recieved them 4-5 days ago ( in delhi)05:35
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guptaali: search in the ho w to section of the forums05:35
alik05:35
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abhijeethey gupta. I am from orissa.05:36
guptaali: or better http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.2905:36
andrew_i installed real media player and vlc from automatix but when i go to Kmenu multimedia i see vlc and two icons for xine movie player. so, how do i remove this xine player and install real media player?05:36
arsohi05:36
arsoits arso05:37
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furguwho?05:37
arsoi am now on the permanent installation05:37
furguwho is arso?05:37
arsofurgu:  argh.?05:37
furgu;-)05:37
arso:P05:37
guptaabhijeet: when did you request? I placed the request the day after the y started accepting05:37
arsofurgu:  ok so now for the 2 major problems please :D05:37
furguare you using KDE or Gnome arso?05:37
arsofurgu:  kde05:37
arsofurgu:  u?05:37
guptaandrew_: rightclikc on kmenu > menu editor05:38
furguso your questions were about resolution and what else?05:38
abhijeetgupta: I think, I have booked on 2nd or 3rd june.05:38
arsofurgu:  cant access my partitions, getting unable to mount05:38
noaXesshi all05:38
guptaabhijeet: well then it would probably take another week05:38
furguarso, your Windows partitions?05:38
arsofurgu: yes,05:38
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furguarso, are they NTFS or FAT32?05:39
arsofurgu:  one has windows and about 4 are ntfs with data05:39
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andrew_gupta does that uninstall it form my sytem or just removes it form the kmenu05:39
arsofurgu:  ?05:40
furguarso, I am trying to find a howto on the forums05:40
arsofurgu:  oh ok thnx, so i cant access my data at all just so  u know05:41
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furguhttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php05:41
abhijeetgupta: I have downloaded the ubuntu. but when I try to install it from the live cd it stuck at date and time setting. what is the cause.05:41
furgutry that05:41
furgulook at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ also05:42
furguand the ntfsprogs package looks helpful05:42
furgufor resolution look in System Settings05:42
guptaandred: just removes it from kmenu05:42
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andrew_ahh ok05:43
guptaabhijeet: try waiting a while ( 5-10) minutse or try pressing ctrl+c05:43
arsofurgu:  ok gonna try now05:43
furgugood luck05:43
guptaandred: for removing from system you have synaptics05:43
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arsofurgu:  for resolution we tried system settings afm\colossus and i05:43
furguany luck?05:44
arsofurgu:  it didnt work, he even tried editing the xorg.cong file from X11 , still didnt work05:44
arsonope05:44
arsofurgu:  is there acommand that unmounts ALL partitions05:44
abhijeetgupta: kubuntu have the same installing process as ubuntu?05:44
furguarso you should worry about unmounting anything yet05:44
furguarso, it might be the ATI drivers... dont know anything about ATI sorry05:45
arsofurgu:  ok, just following that link u gave me, anyway i checked theyre alrdy unmounted05:45
furguarso shouldnt05:45
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arsofurgu:  i'll look for ati05:45
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arsoremeber seing it somewhere thejemreport.com05:45
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arsoso wat should i worry about now05:46
furgu!ntfs05:46
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions05:46
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furgu!resolution05:46
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto05:46
furgutry those links too arso05:46
arsogetting about blank05:46
guptaabhijeet: Can't ay as i have only tried kubuntu05:47
furgucopy & paste arso05:47
arsook05:47
gupta!gtk05:47
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications05:47
arsoopened05:47
arsoi am checking now05:47
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arsoWith the release of Breezy Badger (Ubuntu 5.10), this step should be almost automatic05:48
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guptafurgu: thanks for !command, but shouldn't more ppl know about this?05:48
sven__Anyone here using KDEvelop?05:49
furgugupta?05:49
furguarso: did you try Disk & Filesystem in System Settings?05:49
guptafurgu: sry, I meant about ubotu05:49
arsofurgu:  no? wat should i try there05:49
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furguarso, see if your partitions are there first05:50
arsofurgu:  u mean storage media, coz thats wat i see05:50
furguat the bottom under System Administration05:50
arsook05:51
arso iam there05:51
arsoyes shows all partitions and sizes05:51
furguclick administrator mode05:51
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arsobut doesnt show type for ntfs, but shows the otheres05:51
furguokay arso, you probably need to follow the first link I sent you05:51
arsoswap and exc3 are shown05:51
arsothe oen with a script05:51
arsoor should i do it manually05:52
arsothe link shows both ways05:52
furguarso I havent tried this myself so someone else may need to help if you can't get it to work with the info I sent you05:52
sven__Anyone using KDEvelop?05:52
furgu!kdevelop05:52
ubotuI know nothing about kdevelop05:52
furgu!info kdevelop05:52
ubotuPackage kdevelop does not exist in dapper05:52
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furguwhat the hell is it sven__?05:52
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arsohttp://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows.php05:53
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arsothat one?05:53
furguyah05:53
furgu!info kdevelop305:53
ubotukdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB05:53
furgu!help05:54
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ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage05:54
furgu!linux05:55
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux05:55
furgu!poo05:55
ubotuI know nothing about poo05:55
furgu!poo is stinky05:55
gnomefreakfurgu: please stop playing witht he bot05:55
furguwhy gnomefreak?  If I dont play how will I learn?05:55
gnomefreak!bot05:55
apokryphos!ubotu05:55
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage05:55
gnomefreak!msgthebot05:55
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots05:55
apokryphosfurgu: do not abuse the bot.05:56
furguwtf05:56
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gnomefreaki cant still05:56
guptatry; /msg ubotu, then play ;)05:56
apokryphosfurgu: yes, and please watch your language.05:56
arsofurgu:  Now, we need to edit the /etc/fstab file to make the Windows partition mount with the proper permissions (NTFS is read-only in Ubuntu).05:57
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furgusorry arso, ask apokryphos05:57
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kroyerhi06:00
kroyeri have some problems with konqueror to connect to some website06:00
kroyerlike ebay, or egroupware, do someone knows about them plz ?06:00
arsoapokryphos:  hi06:00
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apokryphoshello06:01
BKajkonq can be as s;ow as molasses..06:01
apokryphosor as fast as lightning ;-)06:01
arsoapokryphos:  can u help me with wat furgu was helping me with?06:01
kroyerapokryphos:  any ideaaa plz  ?06:01
apokryphosarso: what's the problem?06:02
arsoapokryphos:  i am having two problems, first with the resolution06:02
apokryphoskroyer: what's the error?06:02
arsoapokryphos:  its stuck on 640*48006:02
apokryphosarso: /msg ubotu resolution06:02
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kroyerit does not log in, the login seems to be ok, be i do not enter the website06:03
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apokryphosthose pages seem to work just fine for me...06:03
apokryphoslogging in too etc (at least ebay)06:03
arsoapokryphos:  and the second problem is that my partitions from windows before are all ntfs06:04
arsoand kubuntu is unable to mount them06:04
apokryphosarso: it's perfectly able to mount them, just not write to them06:05
apokryphosarso: /msg ubotu ntfs06:05
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arsoapokryphos:  so then wat wouldi do? i have important data, and i want to write more?06:05
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apokryphosarso: it's impossible to write properly to NTFS from Linux06:06
apokryphosblame Microsoft06:06
apokryphosNTFS is not free/open source.06:06
arsoapokryphos: so i would have to divide all my partitions to two06:06
arsolinux and windows06:06
arsodamn06:06
arsodual booting is a bitch06:06
guptakroyer: there?06:06
apokryphosarso: if you had windoze on fat32 then it'd all work fine06:07
Fetter_ZweergWhere can i get Cedega for free06:07
apokryphosFetter_Zweerg: /msg ubotu cedega06:07
kroyergupta: yes06:07
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arsoapokryphos:  oh, so if they are fat32 they can be read by both windwos and linux06:08
apokryphosarso: read+write, yes06:08
guptakroyer: Try this > get opera > right click > site preferences > mark as internet explorer06:08
kroyergupta: opera ??06:08
guptakroyer: ost probably your site site ain't working coz of browser sniffing06:08
arsoapokryphos:  can i paste something into ntfs or not?06:09
kroyerare you serious06:09
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apokryphosarso: impossible06:09
guptakroyer: Haven't heard of opera??? www.opera.com06:09
kroyerif so i can use firefox, cause it is working06:09
arsoapokryphos:  i see, so  i would have to make all my partitions fat3206:09
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arsoapokryphos:  time consuming but possible06:09
apokryphosarso: exactly06:09
kroyeryes, i know opera, but i do not like it06:09
apokryphosarso: or just not use Windoze :P06:09
apokryphosarso: yes, you'd have to backup all your data, reinstall windoze...06:09
apokryphosbut hey06:09
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arsoapokryphos: well ia mstill linux newbie, so i would rather dual boot till i am quite good with apok06:09
afm\colossushttp://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ @ arso06:09
guptakroyer: why??06:10
apokryphosarso: indeed06:10
arsoapokryphos:  with linux*** lol06:10
thoreauputic!captive06:10
ubotuThough it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse06:10
arsoafm\colossus:  welcome back and thanx06:10
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arsoafm\colossus:  wat is that might i ask?06:10
kroyeri've tried opera years before, and no, thanks, i prefer firefox06:10
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arsofirefox rox06:10
apokryphosOpera is the shiznit06:10
kroyeri just want to use konqueror because it it the default kde browser06:10
afm\colossusa wrapper to enslave ntfs.sys under Linux06:10
BKajanyone have Mplayer on AMD64 ?06:11
arsoi find konqueror very close to firefox06:11
arsoafm\colossus:  umm meaning06:11
afm\colossuskonqueror rules06:11
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afm\colossuscaptive provides a slow but secure way to write to NTFS under GNU/Linux06:11
arsoafm\colossus:  i see, and not dangerous in anyway?06:11
arsoafm\colossus:  and how slow/06:12
afm\colossusterribly slow06:12
guptathose not using opera hae no idea what they are missing.06:12
afm\colossusbut as stable as windows06:12
arsoafm\colossus:  but HOW slow, bearable?06:12
afm\colossusOpera is non-free software06:12
afm\colossusarso: well, depens on what you want to do :>06:12
Jack12hi06:12
afm\colossusbearable for moderate desktop usage06:12
arsoafm\colossus:  i see, i guess i'll just re format everything, nah i transfer gb's06:13
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arsoafm\colossus:  i think i have enuff free memory around to move things format their partition then move them back06:13
guptabut opera is atleast 100 times better than konqueror.06:13
arsoafm\colossus:  back to the original problem of resolutions, any ideas :(:(:(:06:13
afm\colossusarso: that's probably the best idea06:13
BKajKonq works better tha FF on a lot of sites that are media driven06:13
afm\colossusplease consider usin ext3 over fat32, since it offers way better features06:13
arsoafm\colossus: but can windows read ext306:14
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afm\colossusand there are drivers for windows06:14
afm\colossuswww.fs-driver.org06:14
Jack12how can i save a webpage and make it useable offline in konqueror? where could i specify save until that level ( meaning the links and sites that are related)06:14
arsoafm\colossus:  are they fast and secure06:14
afm\colossusyes, they are06:14
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arsoafm\colossus:  in that ccase then ext3 it is06:14
arsoohhh but i need to find a windows program that can format to ext306:14
BKajwhy use windows?06:15
Jack12arso did u try partition magic?06:15
Jack12arso pm is able to do that06:15
arsoJack12:  really ?06:15
Jack12arso yes06:15
BKaj get Dparted Or Qparted and burn it to a cd the boot into the cd and do your partitioning with that06:15
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arsoJack12:  i recall someone today earlier taking me06:16
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arsoJack12: telling me *06:16
arsoJack12:  that PM is not good ,and buggy06:16
BKajpartition magic is dangerous , you could lose your windows partition easily06:16
afm\colossusarso: please, use mkfs to format partitions with filesystems supported by Linux06:16
afm\colossusthat's the only way to know for sure what's going on under the hood06:16
arsomkfs? thats a windows prog?06:16
afm\colossusno06:17
afm\colossusmkfs is a command line application collection for formatting under UNIX06:17
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arsobut i cant write on ntfs with linux06:17
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arsoi need to write so that i can copy paste data around to free info06:17
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afm\colossuscopy all your stuff over to just one NTFS volume06:17
afm\colossusformat another on with ext306:17
afm\colossusinstall fs-driver.org's drivers under widnows06:18
afm\colossusand move it over06:18
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afm\colossusor, better yet, move it from inside of (k)Ubuntu06:18
arsoafm\colossus:  maybe one ntfs isnt enough06:18
Jack12arso maybe its however not good to use for linux, but if u need to reformat win to linux, or partiton within windows i think its ok; for use within linux u better get qtparted or that stuff BKaj said06:18
arsowats qtparted?06:18
afm\colossusbottom line is: don't use partiiton magic for FORMATTING partitions06:18
Jack12how can i save a webpage and make it useable offline in konqueror?06:18
BKajyou won't be working windows and that adds a bit of security06:19
arsoafm\colossus:  is it vital to use ext3 instead of fat32? wat are the advantages06:19
arsocoz its way easier if i just make them fat3206:19
arsoohh wiat06:19
arsoi guess i'll just free a drive in windows06:19
arsothen open linux format it to ext306:19
arsothen go to windows06:19
arsoinstall driver06:19
arsofill it up06:20
arsofree another06:20
Jack12where is kwallet stored in the menu?06:20
arsoand so on06:20
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arsogo console06:20
afm\colossusfat32: only one inode index table (although it's called FAT on DOS-boxes), max. filesize 2GB, insane blocksizes06:20
afm\colossusext3: none of the above06:20
arsowtf max file 3gb thats gay06:20
arsoya definitely not fat3206:20
arsomost my downloads at 3gb+06:20
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arsook i know wat to do now, i just hope i have enough space to do it, its gonna be a mess, but its gonna pay off06:21
arsoand its gonna take time06:21
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arsoso does fs driver read ext3 perfectly,.as if its a native FS ?06:21
afm\colossusyes06:22
afm\colossusthe only limitation it poses06:22
afm\colossusis that if you create a new file under Windows on an ext3 volume with it06:22
afm\colossusthat file's owner and group are root06:22
afm\colossusbut that's bearable06:22
arsosorry i didnt understand there06:22
arsothat***06:23
arsoso wat do u mean file owner is root?06:23
afm\colossusthat shouldn't bother you for now ;)06:23
arsowats the problem with taht06:23
arsou mean file access , anyone can open them?06:23
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afm\colossusit has to do sth. with unix permissions06:23
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afm\colossusno, only root may open/read those files06:23
afm\colossusroot is the equivalent to "Administrator" on windows06:24
Jack12xine keeps telling me: no engine loaded, cannot start playback; while xmms works fine....can so help me?06:24
afm\colossusJack12: well, both players use different backends for playing files06:24
afm\colossus(xine actually is a backend itself...)06:24
arsoso . if i write a file on windows, when i go to linux, on kde normally i wont be able to acces sthem or will i be asked for a password?06:25
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arsoand if i try to access them on windows, will they open normally, or will i be asked for linux root pass, or windows admin pass ?06:25
afm\colossusunder Windows, no access restrictions are imposed on you06:26
afm\colossusunder GNU/Linux, you'll have to set permissions to fit your needs06:26
afm\colossusthough that's not much of a problem06:26
arsowat do umean by set permissions06:26
arsoif i try to open it ,access denied?06:26
arsoor please enter root pass06:26
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afm\colossusaccess denied06:27
arsoand how is that dealt with?06:27
Jack12<afm\colossus> i have amaork-xine installed i dont get it06:27
afm\colossusarso: `chown -R yourusername:yourgroup allthefilesyoucreated`, and you're done06:28
arsoJack12:  wats amaork-xine? ext3 driver for windows?\06:28
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arsoeh wtf/06:28
imbrandonamarok-xine is a media player06:28
arsoafm\colossus:  sorry wtf?06:28
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arsoimbrandon lol k06:28
afm\colossusarso: just don't worry for now, ok? ;)06:28
arsolol ok06:28
arsobut will i have to type taht command for EACH file name i wont to access?!?! or just once and were set06:29
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afm\colossusof course only one time06:29
arsooh then i shouldnt worry06:29
arsolisten i am gonna go to windows now06:29
Jack12arso no thats an engine for amaro but it doesnt work for me06:29
arsoJack12:  i see, nvm , i am too confused right now, overload06:30
arsotoday was a looooooooong day06:30
DaSkreechWhat would make a process unkillable?06:30
arsoafm\colossus:  i am gonna go to windows and come to mirc06:30
arsoohhh btw, how do i enter windows now ?06:30
arsoi am not on the livecd anymore i am on the permanent installationh06:30
afm\colossusyou are prompted to hit a key to display GRUB's menu at the beginning of the boot process06:31
afm\colossusyou should do so06:31
afm\colossusand select windows from the list of OSs06:31
arsohit any key or a specific key06:32
afm\colossusany key, i think06:32
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arsoso if i dont hit anything , linux loads up, if i want windows i hitthat key06:32
arsoand get a grub list, which displays os list?06:32
arsoand wtf is GRUB ? :P06:32
afm\colossusGRUB = Grand Unified Boot Loader06:32
arsoi see06:32
dr_willis!grub06:32
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:32
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arsoand btw we st ill didnt deal with the resolution problem06:33
arsodr_willis:  thanx :)06:33
afm\colossusi know06:33
afm\colossuswe'll take care of that later06:33
arsoi am starting to get concerned06:33
arsoafm\colossus:  u 100% its curable?06:33
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afm\colossusi've got an important exam tomorrow06:33
afm\colossuscant spend all my time helping out here today, sorry06:33
arsoi see, that sux.06:33
afm\colossusyes, i'm sure it is to be fixed ;)06:34
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Jack12what would i need as soundrivers for amarok/xine?06:34
dr_williswhats the problem anyway?06:34
arsoso wat other methods are u gonna use , so i can tell any other person to help me06:34
arsoor use google or wateva06:34
afm\colossuswww.ubuntuforums.org06:34
arsothats broad/ :P06:34
arsoi should just search around there?06:34
Jack12arso what du need/want to do?06:34
dr_willis#ubuntu channel as well06:34
afm\colossusJack12: drivers? you already have ALSA working, i suppose, so you don't need any drivers06:35
arsoJack12:  i am having problems with my resolution06:35
arsojack12 its stuck on 640*480 and no other options06:35
dr_willis!fixres06:35
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:35
dr_williswhat video card? anyway?06:36
arsowe tried changing the configuration , but that didnt work06:36
arsoati radeon series 20006:36
arsomaybe i need a driver for the vga first06:36
dr_willisMy ati m200 worked good.06:36
dr_willisBut i had to install the actual ati drivers i recall befor.06:36
arsostill remember where to find them?06:36
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dr_willis!ati06:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:36
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Jack12arso try reconfigure xserver-xorg with sudo i think its in the faq too, and in the menu tick just the boxes with your resolution and restart06:36
dr_willisamazing how well documented this stuff is eh.06:37
dr_willisthis a laptop we are dealing with?06:37
Jack12<afm\colossus> i reinstalled xine and didnt autodetect there but specified alsa ->now it works properly..thx06:37
afm\colossusJack12: great :)06:37
arsoafm\colossus:  is wat jack12 said wat we already tried, or is it something new i should try?06:38
Jack12<afm\colossus>how can i save a webpage for offline use in konqueror?06:38
arsoJack12:  which faq please? :P06:38
afm\colossusarso: you should try that too, i'd say06:38
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arsoafm\colossus:  sure,06:38
afm\colossusJack12: sorry to disappoint you, but i dont know06:39
arsoi am looking for the ati drivers first tho06:39
Jack12arso that is here above in the channel bookmarked as common questions06:39
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afm\colossusyou could possibly use wget for that purpose, though06:39
afm\colossus`man wget` tells you how ;)06:39
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arsoman wget ok06:39
afm\colossusarso: nope06:39
afm\colossusthat was meant to be recognized by Jack12 ;)06:39
arsooh lol06:40
Jack12arso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:40
dr_willisor cheat and get a live cd that works.. and copy its xorg.conf over. :P06:40
arsoJack12:  yes?06:40
Jack12arso try what they say there06:41
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arsookay06:41
arsohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=194669 omg, no body got a wroking ati06:42
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BKajmine works , arso06:42
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arsobtw if i find ubuntu drivers, do they work for kubuntu too?06:42
arsoBKaj:  oh uve got ati, can u help find drivers with 3d acceleration and everything please?06:43
dr_willisarso,  ubuntu and kubuntu are identical06:43
dr_willis!ati06:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:44
vita_Hi everyone06:44
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BKajsorry mine doesn't support 3D accel , it's just an onboard elcheapo ati xpress20006:44
dr_willisthat url tells exactly how to install the official ati drivers for your card.06:44
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dr_willisBKaj,  huh? My x200mobility does.06:44
dergringo^afkmine support 3d06:44
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Jack12how can i save a webpage with all its links in kubuntu konqueror06:44
dergringoI have binary drivers installed06:44
dr_willisThey really need to clarity their naming scheme on these video cards.06:44
BKajwel, I haven't bothered to try 3D , whatever that is06:45
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arsoBKaj:  but i have an unboard ati radeon 200 with 256mb , its 3d and shit06:45
BKaji don't understand all the=at gamerz stuff since I'm not into games06:46
arsodamn06:46
arsoany other ATI vga users here?06:47
vita_I'm having slight trouble with wifi card D-link DWL-520. I know about forum where was discussed installation of DWL-520 e1. Are those two cards identical? if I follow that manual, will it help. Or are those cips different and I have to choose different flash files?06:47
arsobtw wat good text editor do i have on kubuntu?06:47
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arsoafm\colossus:  wat good text editor do i have? kate?06:47
BKajkate06:47
arsok thnx06:47
dr_willisit pays to learn the fundamentals of vi.06:48
arsodo have nano?06:48
arsodo i*06:48
afm\colossusvim rules this universe (and probably all the others, as well)06:48
arsokubuntu06:48
arsoso do i have it here?06:48
afm\colossusi guess nano comes with the system as well, yes06:48
arsocoz the guide is using nano06:48
dr_willisif not its trivial to install. :P06:48
afm\colossusdr_willis: you seem rather competent ) do you know why kvim is not actively maintained any more?06:49
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DaSkreechYOu expected an incompetnent doctor?06:49
dr_willisafm\colossus,  nope. I normally just use vim in a xterm :P06:50
dr_willisor gvim06:50
afm\colossusgvim uses gtk, so it's not an option06:50
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afm\colossusand i'd really like to have vim support kio-slaves06:50
afm\colossus:<06:50
arsoafm\colossus:  i;v yet to instal anything on linux, so i dont know how it goes06:51
arsoi am downloading a driver now06:51
arsoonce download over wat do i do with it? just open06:51
afm\colossusarso: please, just follow the step-by-step guides06:51
afm\colossusthey are made for new users06:52
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arsok sorry06:52
arsothis is complicated :( http://www.mepis.org/node/330706:52
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arsoisntalling a simple driver needs all that wtf06:52
kronoz-livecddoes xfs have any problem with 32bit kbuntu?06:53
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afm\colossusarso: you've already been provided with that here:06:53
afm\colossus!ati06:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:53
afm\colossusso, please, for the love of god - use it!06:54
arsooh06:54
arsosorry :( :P06:54
arsowow all this shit coz i have a lousy old monitor06:54
kronoz-livecd!xfs06:55
ubotuI know nothing about xfs06:55
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arso!GDM06:56
ubotuI know nothing about GDM06:56
arsowaas gdm?06:56
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Bonkershi06:57
BKajoh I see the newer ati on board graphics such as xpress 200 is already 3D supported ...cool :)06:57
Bonkerscan someone help me configuring sudo?06:57
arsolol ya06:57
afm\colossusGDM = GNOME Display Manager06:57
arsoit is06:57
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arsoafm\colossus:  ok thnx06:57
arsoi am kde tho06:57
arsoafm\colossus:  u use which de?06:57
afm\colossusyeah, youve got kdm06:57
dr_willisGDM/KDM/XDM the 'X login manager' program  that give syou a nice "Hello... login" screen06:57
afm\colossusKDE Display Manager06:57
BKajyup, kde here too06:57
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arsocool06:58
arsoBKaj:  u downloaded fglrx thing?06:58
BKajnope , it was on the install dvd06:58
arsoit supported linux?06:58
arsoohh06:59
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arsou which linux are u on./?06:59
BKajwas alreadythere when I configged my monitor and resolution06:59
BKajdapper 6.06 AMD6406:59
arsoi c06:59
arsoi downloaded the cd version not dvd06:59
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arsowats extra on the dvd, and can i install the extra stuf without installing kubuntu as i already have it or does it have to be as a package07:00
kronozi'm having a problem with the live cd installer not making xfs partitions properly07:00
BKajthe cd versionis livecd and it failed me on install to HDD so I dl'd the whole thing on dvd07:00
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arsooh07:01
kronozmkxfs: error07:01
arso2 people with the same problem07:01
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arsoi installed it normally today07:01
arsofrom live cd07:01
arsoso wat extra stuff's on the dvd?07:01
slow-motionre07:01
BKajI dunno arso...the cd failed so ican't tell07:01
arsoBKaj:  ok07:02
arsoare games created for linux any good?07:02
afm\colossusthere are really nice games around07:02
DaSkreech!sudo07:02
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:02
afm\colossusif you happen to like the genres07:02
DaSkreecharso: What kind of games do you like?07:03
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dr_willisgetting to be several good Quake3-code-based games out now for Linux that are fun.07:03
arsoDaSkreech:  fps, and sports (racing,bbal) and stuff07:03
afm\colossusi esp. like Battle For Wesnoth and War$ow07:03
DaSkreechFPS == good07:03
arsoafm\colossus:  wat genres are those?07:03
DaSkreechRacing is half decent07:03
Jack12did anyone get dreamfall with wine to wokr in kubuntu?07:03
afm\colossusturn based strategy and fps07:03
arsoDaSkreech:  i c07:04
arsoafm\colossus:  i c07:04
arsohow about emulating windows games07:04
arsois it a headache or not that tough07:04
DaSkreechwine or cedega07:04
BKajI had some bad partitions so  used GParted reformat them and start over meanwhile preserving the NTFS windows partition and went from there with a normal ext3  and swap partitions and after that the dvd installed perfectly07:04
DaSkreechDepending on how much you are hardcore into gaming07:04
afm\colossusdepends on the game heavily07:04
arsoDaSkreech:  i see07:04
arsoafm\colossus: i see07:04
arsobtw its downloading the driver now07:04
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DaSkreechCedega is pay for sfotware07:04
arsoso after downloading the driver07:04
arsoshould i restart X07:04
BKajwell gents , my lawnmower awiaits and the grass is long ...BBL07:05
arsoLOL07:06
afm\colossusarso: everything is in the guide, really07:06
arsook07:06
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arsoi finished installing, it says if it doesnt work follow ,balabla, how do i know if it worked?07:07
dr_willisI think kopete needs work.. but it has a few nice features07:07
arsoNVM07:07
DaSkreechIt's unfortunatly unusable for me07:07
arsobrb reboot07:07
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guptacan anyone explain , how to setup the $pilotrate environment variable , as asked here : http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl7_pilot-link.htm07:08
guptashould i simply type PILOTRATE=value to setup the variables value?07:09
robotgeekgupta: you would do export pilotrate=foo07:09
guptarobotgeek: Thanks!07:09
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guptarobotgeek: Works! and linux rocks!!07:10
robotgeekgupta: cool. its just a matter of finding where what is07:11
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DaSkreechNetbeans is kind of crashy07:11
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DaSkreechgupta: Oh right You just started to love Linux I forget :)07:12
themousehi, folks, I have a Canon i350 printer any idea how to set it up?07:12
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aarsoOMG07:12
aarsoTHE RESOLUTION IS FINE :D07:13
dr_willisthemouse,  check cups.org to see if its even supported.07:13
aarsofinalllly07:13
dr_willisthemouse,  my cannon ip6600d is not supported at all07:13
aarsoi can die in peace now07:13
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aarsoafm\colossus:  its good now :D07:13
afm\colossusaarso: great :)07:13
themouseok07:14
DaSkreechaarso: can I have your monitor if you do?07:14
afm\colossuslol07:14
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aarsolol its a year old acer07:14
aarsou might want my pc its a 3 week old beast07:14
afm\colossusi really need to make friends with someone from singapore07:14
aarsohey guys , wats the best source for linux apps,07:15
aarsosourceforge/?07:15
afm\colossusno, your package manager07:15
aarsowheres that?07:15
afm\colossuson Kubuntu, there's a frontend available, it's called `adept` i believe07:15
aarsorun adept?07:16
afm\colossuswith it, you can install about 20.000 pacakages with just one click07:16
afm\colossusit's somewhere in the menues07:16
afm\colossusjust poke around07:16
aarsoi see07:16
DaSkreechaarso: Alt+Enter07:16
aarsothank u i am in07:16
DaSkreechType ad07:16
aarsoi went to command and typed adept it got it07:16
DaSkreechSmile for the rest of the day07:16
anso, what do you do if you "accidentally" deleted /etc/apt/sources.list07:16
aarsoso wat is this thing?07:16
DaSkreech!sources07:16
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource07:16
afm\colossusan: fetch a new one?07:17
aarsoprogs already avialble or it downloads them?07:17
DaSkreech!sourceomatic07:17
ubotuI know nothing about sourceomatic07:17
afm\colossusaarso: both07:17
DaSkreech!easysource07:17
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:17
Jack12afm\colossus in my system settings display there is as highest stated 1024x768 but i have in fact 1200x800 or sth, how can i change that? in the reconfigure xserver-menu there is the right resolution ticked07:17
dr_willisaarso,  amazing how easy it is eh. :P it a add/remove program tool done right!07:17
anafm\colossus: that would be my thought too, can be done from commandline ? because i think i broke something more than deleting it :)07:17
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DaSkreechAh an There you go07:18
afm\colossusan: `wget` is used to fetch files remotely via http or ftp07:18
afm\colossusyou just need to know the url of a valid sources.list07:18
anyes, thanks07:18
afm\colossusJack12: nopaste the output of `xrandr`, and provide us with the url07:19
themousewhere on  cups.org should i look wether my printer is supported or not?07:19
Jack12how do i use the pastebin?07:19
aarsothank u dr willis07:19
aarsoseems awesome07:19
aarsoi sure love linux, seems awesome07:19
aarsopossiblities limitless07:19
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arsoso any advice on wat basic progs to get first07:20
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arsocoz as usaid there are a thousand07:20
arsoi wouldnt know wat to get07:20
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arsoumm after i request install, i just wait?07:21
DaSkreech!pastebin > Jack1207:22
the_mouse@arso click commit07:22
the_mousecommit changes07:22
DaSkreecharso: What do you want to do?07:22
arsoapply changes07:22
arsoits ok now07:22
arsowats kmplayer,? another version of mplayer?07:23
DaSkreechYeah07:23
Jack12<afm\colossus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1677007:23
arsois it commandline?07:23
arsoor with gui07:23
DaSkreechIt's pretty cool It integrates into Konqui07:23
DaSkreechboth  :-)07:23
arsosorry wats konqui :P07:23
arsoanother player?07:23
DaSkreechKonqueror07:23
arsooh lol07:23
arsopet name?07:23
arsothats awesome07:24
DaSkreechThe File browser. and killer app of KDE07:24
arsoya i know t :D07:24
the_mousewhere on  cups.org should i look wether my printer is supported or not?07:24
DaSkreechIt has a wikipedia entry ;;-)07:24
arsobtw anyone here uses AMSN ?07:24
afm\colossusJack12: my name's also Johannes btw ;)07:24
afm\colossussec, tel07:24
arsooh coool07:24
arsoshould i use knoquerer or firefox?07:24
Jack12hi johannes07:24
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DaSkreechthe_mouse: not sure try http://cups.org/ppd.php07:25
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Jack12arso konqueror is faster is guess, but firefox has without further installs less troubles with websites eg flash etcetc07:25
arsoDaSkreech:  i ma using Kubuntu does it matter if i download a program for ubuntu?07:26
Jack12arso not at all07:26
DaSkreecharso: Whichever you like07:26
arsoJack12:  i see thanx, i was wondering about flash and java and stuff, where can i get them07:26
thoreauputic!flash07:26
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:26
thoreauputic!java07:26
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:26
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DaSkreechIf you like extensions then Firefox ;-)07:26
arsoi installed many on windows, but noticed i barely used them :P07:26
arsokonquerer seems nice07:26
arsoand i keep mispelling it :P07:27
DaSkreechIt will blow you away yeeeeaaaars from now07:27
arsolol07:27
arsocool07:27
DaSkreecharso: Kall it Konqui :)07:27
arsohehe sure07:27
arsokonqui and google are my friends :D07:27
arsolol07:27
DaSkreecharso: Do you have a Music CD nearby?07:27
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arsoumm probably, y07:27
DaSkreechPut it in and type audiocd:/ in Konqueror07:28
arsoumm sorry07:28
arsobrb07:28
arsogotta go to windows07:28
DaSkreechThen giggle ;-)07:28
arsomom needs something07:28
DaSkreechDon't forget to wash before you come back07:28
arsothreatened to kill the power of my pc lol07:28
arsoLOL07:28
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afm\colossusrepeat after me: konqu rules.07:28
DaSkreecharso: You know youc an get it from linux right?07:28
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arsoDaSkreech:  get wat?07:28
afm\colossusi switched from a gtk-based desktop to kde because of it07:28
DaSkreechReboot and we'll show you when you get back07:28
arsook brb07:28
afm\colossus(because of konqu as a webbrowser, that is)07:28
afm\colossuscould not stand shitty gecko's bugs any more07:29
Jack12 <afm\colossus> u can help me? with the res?07:29
afm\colossusJack12: well, concerning your reolsution07:29
afm\colossusdo you happen to know which graphics card you've got in your PC?07:29
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Jack12GMA intel 95007:30
Jack12Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 95007:30
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afm\colossusi see07:31
afm\colossusthere are problems with that adapter from what i've heard07:31
afm\colossusbecause of its video bios07:32
afm\colossusreporting incorrect capabilites07:32
afm\colossus!fixres07:32
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:32
Jack12in my system settings -display it says i810 shall i try to change that?afm\colossus07:32
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afm\colossushttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto - you'll most probably find a suitable solution here07:32
Jack12<afm\colossus>i have tried that07:33
afm\colossuswithout luck?07:33
Jack12<afm\colossus>yes well before i couldnt move the cursor in systems settings display , now i can move it and lower the res, but cannot go higher07:33
afm\colossuswhat does `grep Modes /etc/X11/xorg.conf` give you?07:34
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Jack12Modes           "1280x800"07:35
Jack12 four times afm\colossus07:35
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afm\colossushm strange07:35
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Jack12shall i try the vesa driver, currently using i810?07:35
afm\colossusno07:36
afm\colossusvesa does not go beyond 1024x768 at all07:36
afm\colossusJack12: did you map one of the resolutions your vbios provides to 1280x800?07:36
Jack12vbios? afm\colossus sry am not so into that, what do u mean?07:37
afm\colossuswell07:37
afm\colossusaccording to the guide you said you've followed07:37
Jack12mom07:38
afm\colossusyou are told to "overwrite" one of the resolutions07:38
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afm\colossusprovided by the bios of your gfx card07:38
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afm\colossushttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto#head-c90f0e12a4551421453b63e586014d6be8992e5707:38
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arsoI AM BACK, people07:39
arsoso DaSkreech u were saying something about accessing windows from linux?07:39
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sotiredello07:40
arsohey07:40
sotiredof the huge issues i've run into this one is just funny....07:41
arsosure wat is it07:41
Jack12Run the Autodetect Script Again <afm\colossus> thats what i did , should i have tried the other ways?07:41
sotiredi need to run firefox as root and it won't let me :(07:41
arsoand guys is there a button that minimizes everything?07:41
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arsoguys in adept it tells me i already have kmplayer, but i cant find it anywhere??07:42
afm\colossusarso: afaik no - you could just switch to another virtual desktop, though07:42
sotiredtry typing kmplayer07:42
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Jack12afm\colossus i see went the wrong path, trying now that07:42
arsoafm\colossus:  ya i tried that already anf out07:42
afm\colossusJack12: i don't have any experience with intel graphics hardware07:42
afm\colossusi can just advise you to do as you are told in the guide07:42
arsocould not run the specified command07:42
afm\colossusok ;)07:42
arsoafm\colossus:  any thoughts07:42
DaSkreecharso: ok what were you trying to get?07:42
DaSkreecha file?07:43
arsokmplayer07:43
afm\colossusbecause of kmplayer?07:43
arsoi went to adept to instal it07:43
arsofound it already is installed07:43
arsobut i dont know where i can find it07:43
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arsodoes it have a different name or something07:43
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sotiredtry search/find files in the k menu07:43
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Jack12855 / 865 / 915 Intel graphic chipset afm\colossus u think that would work with my gma 950 card too?07:43
afm\colossusJack12: yes07:43
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sotiredis there a way i can run firefox as root? sudo isnt working for it07:44
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sotiredi just want to update it07:44
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afm\colossussotired, don't!07:44
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afm\colossusthat's not the way things are done under GNU/Linux07:44
arsoit didnt find anything from find files07:44
Jack12afm\colossus it sys sudo 855resolution -l07:44
Jack12sudo: 855resolution: command not found07:44
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afm\colossusyour package manager updates software for you07:45
arsois there a directory that shows all progs installed or osomething07:45
afm\colossusnot the apps themselves07:45
arsoi see07:45
afm\colossusarso: are you sure you actually installed kmplayer?07:45
arsoafm\colossus:  no when i go to adept it tells me its already installed07:45
sotiredwhat is the current ver of firefox?07:45
afm\colossus1.5.0.407:45
afm\colossusafaik07:45
arsoafm\colossus:  btw, do i need to worry about security? shoudl i install any firewalla or antivirus or something, or enable anything07:45
afm\colossusarso: no07:46
arsoYAY lol07:46
afm\colossusisn't there an option in adept to force installation?07:46
afm\colossusif not, deinstall and install it again07:46
Jack12 afm\colossus it says when i do the sudo 855resolution -l07:46
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Jack12sudo: 855resolution: command not found  <afm\colossus>07:46
DaSkreecharso: Go to the Examples Folder07:46
DaSkreechAlt+Enter and type examples07:46
afm\colossusJack12: yeah, you need to install it first07:46
afm\colossusi believe that's in the guide somewhere, too07:47
kernalafm\colossus: there is a new package for 855resolution called 915esolution07:47
DaSkreechThere is a Ubuntu_sax.ogg file there07:47
arsoDaskreech where is that07:47
DaSkreechAlt+Enter and type Examples07:47
kernal915resolution07:47
afm\colossusso so. should update the friggin docs then, huh? :>07:47
DaSkreecharso: Wait I forget if it's on by default07:48
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arsoDaSkreech:  k07:48
DaSkreechit opened?07:48
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DaSkreechThere isa ubuntu_sax.ogg file07:48
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Jack12./configure, make, sudo, make install? via that? afm\colossus and to where would have apt-get have downloaded?07:49
DaSkreechIf you right click you should have a Preview -> Embedded MPlayer For KDE07:49
afm\colossuskernal, can you help Jack12 out a little?07:49
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afm\colossusin don't have ubuntu, and i don't have an intel gfx adapter07:49
afm\colossusi'm not the man for the job ;)07:50
DaSkreechIs there a Cups Chan?07:50
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kernalok07:50
Jack12afm\colossus just kernal just how would i install? via configure, make, install, andfrom which path?07:51
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arsohey guys07:52
arsowhen i download programs07:52
DaSkreechYah?07:52
arsodo i just open them?>07:52
arsoand i'll get an installer like windows07:52
DaSkreecharso: Where are you downloading them from?07:52
kernalJack12: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20433307:53
arsosourceforge07:53
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DaSkreecharso: Which program?07:53
arsoamsn07:53
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arsoits .deb07:53
afm\colossusarso: please...07:53
afm\colossusvirtually ALL free programs07:54
afm\colossusare in your package manager#s repos07:54
afm\colossuslearn to use it properly07:54
arsoi didnt find msn07:54
arsoAmsn07:54
afm\colossusyou need to enable the extra repos07:54
arsoafm\colossus:  oh07:54
afm\colossusand once again, there's a guide on how to do that07:54
DaSkreech!repos > arso07:54
Jack12kernal i just dont know how to install that and in the thread it doesnt tell ya07:54
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afm\colossushttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/x11/915resolution @ Jack1207:56
arsoDaSkreech:  thnx, and sorry for being such a n00b07:56
DaSkreecharso: We loveit :)07:56
arsohehe07:56
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arsobtw , wat do i have to enable in the package manager?07:56
arsoi am using adept btw07:57
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arsoat the show: everything is ticked07:57
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Jack12afm\colossus when i do johannes@fluffy:~$ 915resolution -l07:58
Jack12Intel 800/900 Series VBIOS Hack : version 0.5.207:58
Jack12Unable to obtain the proper IO permissions: Operation not permitted07:58
arsoDaSkreech: umm, theres no link for easysource! , wats that?07:58
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kernalJack12: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/i915Driver07:59
afm\colossusJack12: run it as root07:59
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hidemefAnyone know if the problems with X and i810 cards got resolved for the dapper release?07:59
arsoafm\colossus:  wat did u say i have to enable in the package manager please?07:59
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afm\colossusarso: you need to enable the universe and multiverse repos for it08:00
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afm\colossusanyone in here who knows how to do that?08:00
hidemefyep08:00
afm\colossusi can't do any mor handholding for today08:00
afm\colossushidemef: please, could you explain to arso?08:00
hidemefYes08:01
arsohidemef:  thanx :)08:01
hidemefarso: Go into adept and under the Adept menu select Manage Repositories08:01
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arsohidemef:  ok i am there08:02
hidemefarso: are you running dapper or breezy or what?08:02
arsohidemef:  latest kubuntu, sorry dont know wat its called08:03
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arsohidemef:  downloaded yesterday08:03
arsoafm\colossus:  when i pasted "dpkg -i amsn_0.95-3.ubuntu.deb" into terminal, i get error "requested operation requires superuser privilege" how do i get superuser privilage08:04
Jack12afm\colossus i am not sure about the bits per pixel, i have 1280 x800 crystal view, and either mode 4d or 5d 16 or 32 bits?08:04
arsohidemef:  dapper is the latest right?08:04
hidemefarso: kthx. There should be a line that says (with some tabs) deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu    dapper   main restricted08:04
hidemefarso: Yes dapper is the latest. Do you see that line?08:04
arsoyes08:04
arsoi see that line08:04
standardproblem to integrate sun java in firefox konqueror etc08:04
arsohidemef:  yes i see it08:05
arsohidemef:  two of them one is type deb second is  deb-src08:05
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afm\colossusJack12: you want 32 (or 24)08:05
hidemefarso: Ok. Where it says main restricted I need you to double click in the middle of that until you get a cursor and can edit it08:05
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afm\colossusarso: you elevetae to root, the super-user, with `sudo su -`08:06
arsohidemef:  ok i  can edit it now08:06
afm\colossusor just write ?sudo` in front of the cmd requiring it08:06
hidemefarso: Ok you want to changs it so it says "main restricted universe multiverse"08:06
arsohidemef:  ok08:06
hidemefOk08:06
arsohidemef:  all of the ones which say main restricted? or just the first one08:07
hidemefarso: Now click on Apply at the bottom, and then Close08:07
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hidemefJust that one is the only important one08:07
arsook08:07
arsothe one that has type deb?08:07
hidemefYEs08:08
arsostill cant find AMSN thru it08:08
hidemefarso: Now you need to click Fetch Updates08:08
hidemefThat will download the list of stuff from universe and multiverse08:08
arsohidemef:  oh ok08:09
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arsohidemef:  ok its downloading08:09
pipitasthe_mouse: you shouldn't look on cups.org, but on linuxprinting.org08:09
pipitasthe_mouse: http://www.linuxprinting.org/printer_list.cgi08:10
arsohidemef:  thanx a lot man :)08:10
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pcfanhow can I know if a process is idle ?08:11
arsohidemef:  when i instal programs thru adept, where are they installed to? their respective areas in k menu?08:11
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hidemefarso: Non-KDE programs do not always appear automatically.  One thing you can do is run 'kappfinder' to add them08:12
gatekeeperhidemef: that one should turn up in the internet section I am sure it did when I installed it on breezy08:13
arsohidemef:  where do i type that?08:14
hidemefarso: in Run Command08:14
hidemefgatekeeper: What did we just install anyway?08:15
gatekeeperaMsn08:15
hidemefNever heard of that.  MSN messaging client?08:15
gatekeeperhidemef: yep08:15
arsohidemef:  thankx :)08:15
DaSkreechpipitas: Apparently the_mouse plugged it in and it worked :)08:16
gatekeeperhidemef: your welcome :-)08:16
arsohidemef:  i am getting could not run the specified command08:16
gatekeeperhidemef: bet that's a caps & small letters issue08:17
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DaSkreechI would guess it's amsn08:19
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gatekeeperDaSkreech: possible aMsn08:20
DaSkreechAh08:20
DaSkreechOf course08:20
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gatekeeperDaSkreech: haven't got it on this box so I can't verify08:21
DaSkreecharso: Can you try typing aMsn from the command line?08:21
arsoDaSkreech:  sure08:21
DaSkreechDoes it wirk?08:22
DaSkreechWork?08:22
arsocould not run the balbal08:22
arsono08:22
arsowtf08:22
arsoaltho it shows in adept that its installed now08:22
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gatekeeperDaSkreech: may be you where right :-)08:22
arsocant be a compatibility issue right?08:22
DaSkreecharso: No We just don't know what it's called :)08:23
DaSkreechIt is not under Internet in the menu I take it?08:23
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gatekeeperarso: look in your internet section on your menu, failing that do Find Files/Folders from your menu and look for amsn08:25
gatekeeperarso: tell us what you find08:25
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DaSkreechI normally just check the menu and then try two obvious spellings then go to Adept and make it tell me what the name of the file is08:26
elektrolottHi, does anybody know how to fix Bug #32415 (Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Broken in Dapper) (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bluez-utils/+bug/32415)? It seems many people having trouble with their bluetooth mice and I could find no solution googling. Thanks!08:26
arsogatekeeper:  sure :)08:27
gatekeeperDaSkreech: I just at the packages and I think you where right amsn08:27
arsogatekeeper: looking now08:27
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arsodidnt find anything08:29
arsoWTF08:29
arsocould it be wrong version or something08:29
arso"Perfect for keeping in touch with those friends who have not yet seen the light." hahahahahah, Amsn's description lol08:31
BoSJoAll: Has anybody gotten Evolution->Exchange Server to work?08:31
hidemef<shudder>08:31
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gatekeeperarso: what does adept say?08:32
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arsogatekeeper:  it says that the file is installed08:32
Jack12hi guys thx the new res works fine!!08:32
arsoJack12:  congratz! :) , i had the same problem, they helped me too08:33
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arsoJack12:  now i just have to reformat every partition (200gb) to be ready :(08:33
bam_resolution problem fix for ati cards?08:33
arsoya08:33
arsoati08:33
arsoi just installed the driver adn it working08:33
arsogatekeeper: so ,any thoughts08:34
gazhey08:34
arsogatekeeper:  i also downlaoded the amsn seperately thru sourceforge.com and its a .deb file, any way to install .deb without command line shit08:34
arsogaz:  hey08:34
bam_I wonder if a dist upgrade will work...08:34
gatekeeperarso: you could always use the command line to try and reinstall sudo apt-get install amsn08:36
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arsogatekeeper:  when i search i find its files, but which one should i run to open the prog? wats he extension?08:36
gatekeeperarso: you should not need the sourceforge version better if it comes from the repos08:37
elektrolotthas anyone a bluetooth mouse working on dapper (without deactivating/deinstalling bluez)?08:37
arsook it opened08:37
arsousr/share/amsn08:37
gatekeeperarso: this is linux not windows :-) won't have an extension08:37
arsonow how can i add it to the internet menu08:37
arsogatekeeper:  oh woops :P08:37
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ErtainHow does one make kernel packs with make-kpkg08:38
gatekeeperarso: it's not on your internet or any other menu?08:38
arsogatekeeper:  nope08:38
DaSkreecharso: You could type which amsn on the CLI08:38
arsoDaSkreech:  i am sorry WAT?08:39
gatekeeperarso: right click on the K button and select menu editor08:39
DaSkreechOh if you wanted to find out where the amsn file was08:39
DaSkreechtype <which amsn> on the CLI08:39
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arsosorry wats cli?08:39
DaSkreech<C>ommand <L>ine <I>nterface08:39
arsoso from run command?08:40
DaSkreechAlt+F2?08:40
arso: which amsn?08:40
DaSkreechYes08:40
DaSkreechI've never tried it from there :)08:40
arsonothing happened08:40
arsowats that supposed to do08:40
DaSkreechOpen Konsole08:41
Jack12guys i cannot access some linux folders from live cd , it says they are locked; i want to save files cause my system is unstartable.08:41
DaSkreechand type it there08:41
arsoohhhhhhhh08:41
DaSkreechJack12: Assume ownership of them08:41
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Jack12DaSkreech via chown?chmod?08:41
arsoDaSkreech:  usr/bin/amsn08:41
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OrgulloKmoorehow can I change my screen resolution? Everything is so small...08:41
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DaSkreechAlt+F2 is good for GUI things but you have to open the options and check open in terminal08:41
gatekeeperarso: the Run Command won't give you feed back like Konsole, it's more fire and forget08:41
DaSkreecharso: Thats the file you are looking for08:42
DaSkreechJack12: chown08:42
DaSkreechJack12: Want me to walk you through it?08:42
gatekeeperare we winning?08:42
DaSkreechgatekeeper: You can open options and click open in terminal08:42
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gazhmmmm i need help persuading my mate that ubuntus better than xp lol08:43
gatekeeperDaSkreech: I will have to get a pair of spec thanx :-)08:43
arsoDaSkreech: gatekeeper so how do i add it to the internet menu now?08:43
gatekeeperarso: got the menu editor up?08:44
DaSkreecharso: Right click on the K menu and choose Menu Editor08:44
hidemefgaz: Give him a live cd to use for a little while08:44
arsook ia m i nmenu editor08:44
Jack12DaSkreech please08:45
arsoso in command, wat should i write08:45
DaSkreechJack12: Which folder?08:45
gatekeepergaz: you could also let him try using a linux box remotely for free at www.cosmopod.com08:45
arsogatekeeper:  for command wat should i write, i created a new item08:45
arsogatekeeper:  and workpath08:45
gatekeeperarso: amsn08:45
arsofor both?08:45
Jack12DaSkreech /hda6/home/wolfi08:46
gatekeeperarso: should not need workpath08:46
DaSkreechJack12: One Guess. NTFS?08:46
Jack12DaSkreech ext308:46
hidemefgatekeeper: I don't think it's necessary to add it to the menu manaully. There should already be a .desktop file for it, which will either be detected automatically the next time he logs in, or can be added automatically using kappfinder08:46
DaSkreechHmm08:46
DaSkreechJack12: Who mounted it? Root?08:47
gatekeeperhidemef: that is what I would have expected08:47
arsowtf08:47
arsoit got added on its own now, after i added manually08:47
arsoi found two of them08:47
arsoafter i ran it it must've been added?08:47
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Jack12DaSkreech i guess root08:47
gatekeeperhidemef: reckons he can't see it but I would have expected it to be added straight away08:47
serenityhi08:48
DaSkreechJack12: Do a ls -l on it from the Command line?08:48
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serenityi am looking gor a tutorial to add some programs to a kubuntu-liveCD08:48
DaSkreechYou can browse to the folder above it in Konqueror and press F4 it will open a Konsole for you08:48
DaSkreechvery Kool :)08:48
gatekeeperarso: hidemef: and I where right thought it would be there :-)08:48
hidemefheh08:48
ErtainSo... Anybody experienced with make-kpkg?08:49
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gatekeeperhidemef: looks like I feel for that one :-)08:49
Jack12DaSkreech if i do it just gives the livecd output knoppix knoppix Desktop etc..shall i cd to the /media/hda6 directory?08:49
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JP_PIALASSEhello08:50
DaSkreechAh. Of course :)08:50
DaSkreechHi08:50
DaSkreechJack12: Where are you copying the files to?08:50
JP_PIALASSEi would  like to know how to mount a samba share08:50
arsogatekeeper:  hehe, but i think it only came after i ran it08:50
uniqertain: what's your problem with make-kpkg?08:50
arsogatekeeper:  so any recommendatiosn for important programs to get08:50
Jack12to usb stich DaSkreech, home is owned by root root08:51
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hidemefJP_PIALASSE: You need to have the samba client.  After that, it's "su mount -t smbfs //host/share /mnt/destination"08:51
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DaSkreechJack12: Try a sudo cp08:51
gatekeeperarso: depends what you want, if you have got friends on other messangers gaim is probable a better bet08:51
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ErtainI'd like to make the wacom drivers, since for some strange reason my Wacom Tablet won't work properly with my kernel.  (Version 2.6.15-25-386)08:51
arsogatekeeper:  gaim? i'll look it up08:51
DaSkreechsudo cp -r /hda6/home/wolfi /usb-stick-path-thingy08:52
hidemefgatekeeper: doesn't kopete have msn?08:52
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astro_-Hi! How do I get to KDE once I've done apt-get-install kubuntu desktop in Ubuntu?08:52
OrgulloKmoorehow can I change the screen resolution?08:53
jpatrickastro_-: log out of gnome and into KDE08:53
gatekeeperarso: yes I think it does, you also might want to use synaptic instead of adept depends what you like08:53
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astro_-jpatrick: I rebooted, should that do the trick?08:53
Jack12it says DaSkreech missing destination file operator, probably meaning it should be cp -x instead08:53
uniqertain: did you install the 'wacom-kernel-source' package?08:53
JP_PIALASSEhidemef> and with a username and password ?08:53
astro_-jpatrick: the login screen was different, but the desktop looks like gnome did08:53
arsogatekeeper:  umm wat ways is synaptic better?08:53
Ertainuniq: Yes.08:54
jpatrickastro_-: you have to click on session type08:54
jpatrickastro_-: no need to reboot ever on Linux08:54
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bam_where is the directory where themes are kept?08:54
nkjoepgood evening08:54
astro_-jpatrick: when/where do I click session type?08:54
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hidemefJP_PIALASSE: su mount -t smbfs -o username=username,password=password //host/share /mnt/destination08:54
jpatrickastro_-: it's a menu in KDM08:54
arsogatekeeper:  i might switch to gaim, aMsn's layout isnt nice, too ... old?08:54
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JP_PIALASSEhidemef> thanks i try this08:55
nkjoepi got problems with rar files... how can i extract them?08:55
jpatrickastro_-: one sec08:55
gatekeeperarso: well on breezy I got adept to go into an infinite loop when installing a number of packages, I just think synaptic is simpler and more stable08:55
Jack12DaSkreech i tried cp -f now and it says it cannot find the file /hda6/home/WOLFI08:55
arsogatekeeper:  can i download synaptic through adept :?:P?08:55
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gatekeeperarso: not sure use command line apt-get install synaptic you might want to look at screen shots of gaim before installing08:56
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serenityhi08:57
jpatrickastro_-: there should be two buttons on KDM08:57
jpatrickone has session type choose: KDE08:57
astro_-you mean when it asks for username/password?08:57
arsogatekeeper:  gaim looks good, more refined then amsn08:57
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jpatrickastro_-: yes08:57
astro_-ok, thanks08:57
serenityi am looking for a gui to create a kubuntu-based liveCD (just adding programs)08:57
gatekeeperarso: ok :-)08:57
jpatrickastro_-: log out and back into kde08:57
astro_-ok08:57
JP_PIALASSEhidemef>  smbfs: mount_data version 1935764853 is not supported08:58
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arsogatekeeper:  as for torrents :P, is ktorrent the best out there for linux? or should i get something else? i used to use utorrent on windows08:58
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serenityarso:  should it be a small bt client?08:58
gatekeeperarso: don't know haven't really used torrents much08:59
gazcan u get gimpshop from the package installer?08:59
arsoserenity:  hello, not really, just not java based, like azureus, too much conumption08:59
arsogatekeeper:  i see, its ok08:59
arsogatekeeper:  btw, where should i get all the java/flash plugins and stuff08:59
serenityarso: then try bittornado, small, powerful and, of course, open09:00
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serenityarso: or ktorrent09:00
arsoserenity:  lol, which is better? coz ktorrent is already preloaded here09:00
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gatekeeperarso: if you want to know how to install various things (like java) have a look at: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper09:01
serenityarso: i prefer bittornado. Imho better performance, but it's only a feeling09:01
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arsoserenity:  sure, i'll get that then09:01
gatekeeperarso: got to run talk to you again... :-)09:01
serenityis there a gui for reauthoring the liveCD?09:01
arsogatekeeper:  sure, i'll hang around here till i become a linux pro :P09:01
DaSkreecharso: So 10 more minutes then?09:02
Jack12DaSkreech what now?09:02
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gatekeeperarso: ok :-) have a look at the forums too, good luck :-)09:02
arsoDaSkreech:  lol, ...09:02
DaSkreechSorry X forze up09:02
DaSkreechYou did a sudo cp -R /source /destination?09:03
arsoDaSkreech:  why are u here? u dont look like u need help :P09:03
DaSkreechYou do09:03
arso:P hehe09:03
arsothats kind09:03
arsoi guess once i become pro, i'll hang around here and help09:03
DaSkreechJack12: You did a sudo cp -R /source /destination?09:03
gazanyone here play quake2?09:06
arsoLOL09:06
arsoisnt that like from the 80s?09:06
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hidemefI skipped Quake 2... I liked Quake 1 too much09:07
gazfor some reason i cant find my config file09:07
gazits not where its supposed to be :o09:07
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arsoguys, wats the best converters outhere, for creating dvds/vcds/divx/psp mp409:08
astro_-jpatrick: thanks, it worked :)09:08
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jpatrickastro_-: :D09:09
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afm\colossusbasera3 5on5 now anyone?, server avail09:10
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astro_-jpatrick: I just hadn't seen the button there :)09:10
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arsoANYBODY!?!?09:10
jpatrickdoesn't matter09:10
Jack12DaSkreech yes it says it cant find the file09:10
DaSkreechJack12: Which file?09:11
arsoDaSkreech:  do u know any good converters for creating dvds and vcds and burning them09:11
Jack12DaSkreech the source file i want to copy09:11
DaSkreecharso: Open Adept and type DVD in filter09:11
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arsoand, which one?09:12
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DaSkreechJack12: Are you sure it's spelt right? Did you try to sudo su - ?09:12
DaSkreecharso: Don't know not my scene :)09:12
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arsoDaSkreech:  when i look for something lie "gaim" i get many results which one should i get,for ex. theres data files,development files09:13
DaSkreechFind the one that says gaim :)09:13
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DaSkreechInstall that and it will take anythign else you need09:13
Bonkers[Invalid UTF-8]  Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/kde/kcm_knemo.desktop': desktop entry contain line 'Comment[de] =\xdcberwacht Netzwerk-Schnittstellen' which is not UTF-809:13
BonkersCould not parse file '/usr/share/applications/xaralx.desktop': desktop entry does not start with legal start group09:13
Jack12DaSkreech yes i did su too it makes no difference09:13
Bonkersi get that when installing opera09:13
DaSkreechDevelopment stuff is very ironically for developlment09:14
Bonkerscan anyone help me out ?09:14
DaSkreechWhodathunk?09:14
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DaSkreechJack12: So you are root now?09:14
Jack12DaSkrecch yes09:14
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Bonkersanyone ?09:14
DaSkreechand you can CD into the folder?09:14
DaSkreechThe locked one09:15
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Bonkersguess not?09:15
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DaSkreechBonkers: Maybe it doesn't have a valid group?09:16
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Bonkersmmm, but how do i fix that or what does that mean?09:16
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DaSkreechWhat are you using to open it09:16
Bonkersopera install.sh file09:17
Bonkerssudo ./install.sh09:17
arsoDaSkreech:09:17
arsosudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin09:17
arsoE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)09:17
arsoE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?09:17
Jack12DaSkreech i can cd to it not into it09:17
Jack12arsoonly one synaptic at one time09:17
arsoJack12:    wat do u mean09:18
arsoohhh09:18
arsook i see09:18
DaSkreechJack12: You can cd to home but not to wolfi?09:18
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Jack12DaSkreech neither of them09:21
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DaSkreechWhere can you cd to?09:22
Jack12DaSkreech to hda509:22
Jack12i mean hda609:22
DaSkreechWho owns /had6/home ?09:23
Jack12root--root09:23
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slow-motionre09:25
DaSkreechJack12: and you are root?09:26
DaSkreechtype whoami09:26
Jack12DaSkreech yes on the live cd seems not to work09:27
DaSkreechwhat comes up for whoami?09:28
Jack12root09:28
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arso_hello09:31
arso_i was wondering09:31
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DaSkreechwhat do you get when you try to cd in to home?09:31
arso_where are advanced volume control09:31
DaSkreechDouble click volume?09:31
arso_oh09:31
arso_um nothing happens09:31
arso_the simple volume thing comes upo and goes down09:31
Jack12DaSkreech cd->cant find file, doubleclick->its locked09:31
thompai was wondering if xgl is working ok in kubuntu?09:33
bored_penguinI don't understand why ubuntu prefers gnome on kde09:33
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thompa!xgl09:33
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:33
DaSkreecharso_: Try Right click09:34
DaSkreechJack12: You cna't find home?09:34
thompawell i guess ill try xgl09:34
Jack12DaSkreech i can get no access, yes09:35
DaSkreechcan you get into /hda6/etc09:35
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Kozar4enceHow to add the universe/multiuniverse? It ain't written in the Kubuntu Wiki09:36
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Kozar4ence:(09:36
crimsun!repos09:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:36
crimsunKozar4ence: read that.09:37
Kozar4encecrimsun 10x09:37
Kozar4encethats what im looking for09:37
Jack12i can DaSkreech yes09:37
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LiquidNerdokay... my sudo is broken09:38
gnomefreakLiquidNerd: edgy?09:38
LiquidNerdyeah09:39
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gnomefreakLiquidNerd: join #ubuntu+1 and read the topic please09:39
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LiquidNerdwould've helped before I did a dist-upgrade09:39
LiquidNerdlol09:39
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pichihello09:40
LiquidNerdoh well... I guess I'll have to wait for the fix and do some fancy tricks to get it installed09:40
LiquidNerdand by fancy tricks, I mean single user mode09:40
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root___help pls09:41
LiquidNerdno09:41
root___I am running this from recovery mode09:41
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LiquidNerdcan't help if there's no question09:41
root___my xorg keeps resending me to the login screen09:41
santa99good evenning all together09:41
root___when i write my password09:41
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root___it just blanks and brings up the login screen again09:41
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LiquidNerdroot___: what session type did you choose?09:42
root___KDE09:42
LiquidNerdyou sure?09:42
root___yes09:42
root___it's the default09:42
LiquidNerdwait.. did you choose default or KDE?09:42
root___tryed both09:42
Jack12DaSkreech and now?09:42
DaSkreechJack12: are you sure that you didn't have home on another parition?09:42
root___tryed reconfiguring xorg09:43
root___tryed shifting drivers09:43
root___from fglrx to ati09:43
root___but same problem ...09:43
LiquidNerdanything is the .xsession_errors?09:43
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Jack12DaSkreech there is a second home for another user, yes, but, when i want eg save bookmarks  they seem to be in the other accout mostly09:44
Jack12anyway no use09:44
root___I checked the /var/log/Xorg.0.log09:44
root___and everything was ok09:44
LiquidNerdroot___: It's not an X problem since X is loading fine09:44
root___I know ...09:45
DaSkreechwho owns etc?09:45
astro_-can I somehow make Konsole "url aware", ie be able to click urls in konsole so that they open in my browser?09:45
root___but what could be causing it09:45
LiquidNerdtry reading ~/.xsession_errors09:45
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santa99have a problem to running Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06: When i want to shutdown my laptop it only goes to will now halt and doesnt power off really it stops by will now halt and doesnt go on. When I run it without the splash i saw that it stops by acpi_power_off. Someone else have this problem and have solved it ?09:45
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DaSkreecharso_: I think so09:46
kronozhmm kubuntu boots a hell of a lot faster than suse 10.109:46
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BKajanyone have Google earth up and running on dapper/ATI/AMD64 ?09:47
apokryphoskronoz: reiserfs is nice but it takes longer to mount than ext3, yeah.09:47
kronozapokryphos: yeah, i like reiserfs, it annoys me a bit kubuntu can't use it, my root is ext and /home is xfs, i heard xfs doesn't take up much time in the boot process09:48
arso_DaSkreech:  sorry? wat are u tlaking about?09:48
santa99nobody knows a solution for this problem ?09:48
kronoz*ext309:48
apokryphosyup, it's certainly quicker to mount09:48
DaSkreechWhoops :)09:48
DaSkreechastro_-: I think so09:49
hidemefXFS doesn't really work with GRUB09:49
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astro_-DaSkreech: how? :)09:50
kronozhidemef: so you need a seperate /boot for xfs+grub?09:50
hidemefkronoz: yes, /boot would need to be something else09:50
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DaSkreechastro_-: Check in #kde?09:51
DaSkreechJack12: Who owns etc?09:51
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uniqkronoz: no, you can use grub with xfs.09:51
crimsunkronoz: what do you mean can't use it?09:51
Jack12DaSkreech 500--root09:52
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DaSkreechThat's very strange09:53
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kronozuniq, crimsun, i don't know, it was hidemef who said it didn't work with grub09:53
Kozar4encewhy adept cant find libmad0 so i can play mp3s in amaroK09:53
Kozar4ence?09:53
hidemefkronoz: You said that kubuntu can't use reiser (I believe it can), which is what crimsun meant09:53
crimsunKozar4ence: you need both universe and multiverse enabled.09:54
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crimsunKozar4ence: then install libxine-extracodecs09:54
Kozar4encei have09:54
Kozar4enceboth of them09:54
kronozi have the lastest-kde and latest-amarok repos in my /etc/apt/sources.list and i've done apt-get update but when i try to do apt-get upgrade it keeps all the packages back09:54
Kozar4encecrimsun k, just asking because the amaroK how to says both09:54
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denzshi can anybody tell me how to get the logon time from kdm? it seems as it doesnt write into wtmp...09:55
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uniqkronoz: That is a sign that a package they depend on is not available. You can find out what package this is if you try to install one of the held packages manually. 'apt-get install package'09:56
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uniqdenzs: are you sure it doesn't write to wtmp? I can see my kdm logins with 'last'09:59
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denzshm iam not sure because there is alway a console open ;) but i have the problem on a debian system and iam sure that the debian package doesnt use wtmp10:01
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centyxHi. I'm using Kontact. I'm trying to create/store a default resource for kontacts components to use on an imap server. I've created imap folders and specified that they should contain Journal, Calendar, Tasks, etc upon creation. I've clicked Add in the calendar window and added my imap resource, and the one Calendar subfolder has become available, but not the Journal, Tasks, and other folders. I've right clicked on the imap resource and 10:03
centyxournal entry, it complains that there is no writable resource available. How do I tell Kontact to use the resources I've created?10:03
uniqdenzs: try 'last :0'10:03
senseiHello, which package holds all the KDE icons? The 'standard' icons are all of a sudden missing.. In all KDE apps, like Kolf, krecord etc.. The Save-, Open- and print icons etc10:03
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senseiI'm guessing kdebase?10:04
uniqsensei: kdelibs-data10:05
centyxkmail is using the imap resource for contacts it appears.10:05
centyxbut the journal thing isn't working10:05
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senseiuniq: Ah thanks.. just how do I override "it's already installed"?10:06
uniqsensei: there are some icons in kdebase-data too though..10:06
denzsthx i'll try trhat10:06
uniqsensei: 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall kdelibs-data kdebase-data'10:06
senseiAffirmative, thanks10:07
Kozar4enceIs it possible to install sie good old kynaptic?10:07
Kozar4encei think my relation with adept aint going well :)10:07
DaSkreechKozar4ence: Such is my hate for Kynaptic I'll help you through whatever you need to do10:08
arso_hey gyus10:08
arso_i am having trouble with java10:08
centyxanyone?10:08
arso_i installed it as the common questions link10:08
Kozar4enceDaSkreech :D10:09
arso_but youtube isntworking10:09
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DaSkreecharso_: That's flash10:09
arso_omg, lol10:09
arso_hmm10:09
DaSkreech!flash > arso_10:09
arso_but i already installed flash10:09
arso_ya i already did10:10
senseiStill no luck with the icons, even after reinstalling kdelibs and kdebase data packages :/10:10
DaSkreechKozar4ence: So how about it?10:10
arso_DaSkreech:  i installed java and flash , still not working10:10
senseiEven the "New shell" icon in konsole is missing :O10:10
arso_maybe i ened to reboot?10:10
Kozar4enceDaSkreech so WTF means BREAK10:10
DaSkreechKozar4ence: Means it's broken :)10:11
Kozar4ence<_<10:11
Kozar4encewhy the fuck :)10:11
DaSkreechtry dpkg --configure -a from the command line10:11
DaSkreech!language10:11
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.10:11
Kozar4enceDaSkreech manually to insall apt-get it?10:12
senseiCould it be kdeartwork ?10:12
DaSkreechKozar4ence: What?10:12
Kozar4enceokay this is going soooo bad10:13
Kozar4enceDaSkreech what to do when it says that the extracodecs for mp3 support are broken >_<10:13
DaSkreechKozar4ence: go to a command line and type apt-get -f install10:14
DaSkreechI think that should fix it10:14
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Kozar4enceDaSkreech whants libmad0.... which ofcourse isnt avaible10:15
Kozar4ence:(10:15
DaSkreechGive me a second10:16
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Kozar4encei seem to be born under a lucky star....from 3 packages i want to isntall 3 broken :D10:17
DaSkreechKozar4ence: It's here in my repos10:18
DaSkreechKozar4ence: Did you do an update?10:18
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Kozar4enceofcourse10:18
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sonicHi there, anyone know why my php mail() function mightent be working?10:19
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DaSkreechand what do you see when you filter libmad?10:19
m_tadeugood night everyone10:19
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Kozar4encexmms-mad10:19
DaSkreechNIght10:20
Kozar4enceand some libmad-ocaml10:20
sonici.e. is it disabled by default or something? My /var/mail dir is empty and mutt command is not regocnised10:20
DaSkreechand the dev for that?10:20
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arso_OI, how do i unpackage a file10:20
senseiAh, I'll just reinstall the entire KDE system >:|10:20
m_tadeuI'm having a smal problem connecting to my PDA...synce-serial-start just exits without a message. can anyone help, plz?10:20
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arso_how do i unpackage a .tar.gz10:20
senseitar -zxvf file.tar.gz10:21
arso_where will it be unpacked too?10:21
senseiYour cwd10:21
arso_my WA?T>10:21
senseiCurrent Working Directory10:21
senseiThe one you're 'in'10:21
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Kozar4enceDaSkreech also libmad-ocaml-dev10:21
DaSkreechRight I have libmad0 and libmad0-dev in addition to those10:22
arso_ok10:22
arso_i see10:22
arso_thnx10:22
kronoz$PWD == present working directory && != cwd || $CWD10:22
kronozit is pwd not cwd10:22
senseikronoz: Depends on generation.. Some say pwd is Parent Working Directory10:22
DaSkreechSchool him kronoz!10:22
uniqit's Print Working Directory.10:23
senseiBut yeah, I suppose pwd is more commonly used10:23
uniqit's the command guys :)10:23
Kozar4enceDaSkreech cheater10:24
Kozar4ence:(10:24
Kozar4encei have added the multiverse10:24
DaSkreechKozar4ence: ok10:24
senseiThis is all inferior to my missing icons :'(10:24
DaSkreechThey are there now?10:24
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Kozar4enceDaSkreech i meaned i had added in before that10:26
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Kozar4enceokay thats it10:26
Kozar4enceill switch to the us archive10:26
Kozar4encenot the de10:26
Kozar4encemaybe this will fix10:26
Kozar4enceit10:26
DaSkreech:-) I doubt it :)10:26
uniqsensei: is the kmenu icon missing?10:28
DaSkreechKozar4ence: So do you have libc6?10:28
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senseiuniq: Nops, it's there... all the 'big' ones, even those on the desktop is there10:28
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uniqsensei: then 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall konsole'10:31
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senseiuniq: But it's not just the konsole icons.. it's in all programs10:32
senseikate, krecord.. all10:32
Kozar4enceDebian saves the day10:32
uniqsensei: Do you have any idea how this could have happend? Looks like you've lost files from loads of packages.10:33
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uniqsensei: try to reinstall konsole to check that the icons come back.10:33
santa99hi today10:33
santa99now logged in10:34
senseiuniq: It didn't :/10:34
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senseiThe launch feedback icons are missing as well10:34
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DaSkreechKozar4ence: I was asking if you had libc6 installed10:35
senseiuniq: There comes icons if I change the entire theme10:35
kronoz!nvidia10:36
senseiMaybe I should just reinstall the default theme (whatever its name is)10:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:36
arso_hey guys10:38
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thomas_registered10:40
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arso_man10:42
arso_i instal programs thru adept10:42
arso_but i cant find half of them10:42
senseiuniq: I changed icon theme in kcontrol, solved it10:43
uniqsensei: great :)10:43
senseiThanks for your effort :)10:43
thomas_have a problem with the shuttdown under Dapper Drake. It goes only to Will now halt and doesn't shut down really. When i turn off the splash i see it hangs a acpi_power_off. Does someone else here have the same problem and a solution for it so pls help me10:43
uniqarso_: try to run alt+f2 'kbuildsycoca'10:44
senseiOh, btw, I've got a heads up.. I installed kubuntu yesterday, and couldn't use any sources.. I got "connection failed" when doing apt-get update.. It turned out that my netgear router for some reason blocked the connections by keyword10:44
arso_uniq:  nothing happened?10:44
senseiI've confirmed this with other users of netgear routers10:44
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crimsunsensei: which keyword?10:45
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senseicrimsun: That's the weird part.. I don't know.. It's not in the list10:45
thomas_nobody a idea ?10:45
senseiI had to turn that functionality off all together10:45
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uniqarso_: the system config cache will be rebuildt, applications can pop up in the menu an things like that10:46
senseiNetgear <3 Microsoft? ;)10:46
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arso_uniq:  do all programs pop in the k menu, 100%?/ , iisnt there a directory where all programs get installed to like windows "program fileS"10:46
arso_uniq:  ??10:47
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arso_HEY when i went to add/remove programs i found i had 10+ games, but theyre not in the k menu, how can i get them there10:48
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uniqarso_: no, it's nothing like that. Do you have an example program you can't find?10:48
arso_bittornado10:48
arso_kmplayer10:48
uniqthat is a console program.10:48
arso_meaning?10:48
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uniqkmplayer will be in the list after you run 'kbuildsycoca'10:48
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uniqmeaning it's made to run in text-mode, you can run it inside a 'konsole'10:49
arso_when i open kbuildsycoca nothing opens10:49
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uniqarso_: it all happens in the background.10:50
arso_ok i opened kmplayer10:50
arso_how about bittorrent10:50
Kozar4enceokay why according to adept almost every package is broken10:51
Kozar4ence:(10:51
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arso_is there a way to show me wat i have previously installed in adept10:51
fiyawerxhey guys, i'm installing kubuntu on my laptop, and after formatting it says "Scanning the mirror" but it's been at 1% for like 10 minutes10:51
fiyawerxanyone know what that is?10:51
arso_so how do i open up all those games i downlaoded10:53
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uniqfiyawerx: it's updating the list of packages from the internet servers. If your connection is slow it will take some time.10:53
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fiyawerxuniq: my connections not connected10:53
fiyawerxuniq: is it safe to just x that window then?10:53
uniqfiyawerx: that's why it's slo then :)10:53
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fiyawerxuniq: shouldn't it time out?10:54
fiyawerxuniq: it's literally been like 10 minutes+ so far10:54
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uniqfiyawerx: Leave it some more minutes..10:55
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fiyawerxuniq: i ran sudo ifconfig eth0 down and it finally kept going :)10:55
uniq:)10:55
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xwolf-can i put a delay in that pretty thingie shown when you move the mouse over a button in the taskbar?10:55
fiyawerxthanks for that info10:55
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uniqxwolf-: not as far as i know.10:56
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uniqxwolf-: you want it to fade out slowly, right?10:57
xwolf-no, i want it to wait a bit before it's shown10:57
uniqah.. hmm..10:57
xwolf-cause i really use those buttons and this big tooltip kinda gets jumpy10:58
xwolf-know what i mean?10:58
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arso1234hey guys its arso10:58
fiyawerxxwolf10:58
arso1234i am on windows now10:58
fiyawerxxwolf-: you can disable the "animation" style and letit just do regular popups10:58
fiyawerxxwolf-: helped me a lot for that10:58
xwolf-it's ok to be animated, just not that fast :>10:58
arso1234i need to know10:58
fiyawerxxwolf-: doesnt look quite as flashy but you still get the tips, ah10:59
arso1234how can i format a partition in kubuntu10:59
xwolf-but where is it fiyawerx ?10:59
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arso1234help me please10:59
pierre_hello11:00
arso1234how do i format a partition using ext3 file system on kubuntu11:00
xwolf-!format11:00
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks11:00
fiyawerxxwolf-: i believe under right click on the panel -> configure panel, will find it in a sec just botting up11:00
fiyawerxbooting11:00
arso1234thanx11:00
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pierre_I have often a bug with kubuntu11:01
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pierre_I write in Code::Blocks and my pointeur become an angle with a '+' in the angle11:03
pierre_my system freeze11:03
pierre_s11:03
pierre_and i have to reboot11:03
pierre_what's this problem ?11:03
uniqwhere do you write Code::Blocks?11:03
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pierre_in the editor of Code::Blocks11:04
uniqah.11:04
remyhi11:04
zorglu1what is code:blocks ?11:04
pierre_code::blocks is an IDE to code in C or C++11:04
remyi have e problem whith my sriptide sound card! someone can help me?11:04
zorglu1ah!! cool im looking for one :)11:04
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pierre_Also when I surligne text the bug is11:05
DaSkreechkonq11:05
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uniqi use vim.11:05
pierre_yes, i use too Emacs11:05
pierre_but i prefer the presentation of code blocks11:05
remysomeone can help me for my riptide sound card?11:06
zorglu1well emacs and vim are way too old fashion for my current taste :)11:06
pierre_yes11:06
remyplease!11:06
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pierre_so has someone teh same bug ?11:07
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uniq?? checkinstall11:09
uniqehm.11:09
uniq!checkinstall11:09
pierre_no ? realy nobody ?11:09
ubotucheckinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall11:09
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pierre_i don't understand what's checkinstall11:09
uniqpierre_: sorry, i don't have code::blocks installed, and I don't have the time to compile it and test right now.11:09
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uniqpierre_: and checkinstall was for me, not for you, sorry about he confusion.11:10
uniqhe/the.11:10
pierre_uniq : thanks but the problem doesn't come of compilation !11:10
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inffcf00hi, anyone got graphic glitches in dapper??11:11
Kozar4enceI had on my desktop pc11:11
Kozar4enceit occured because i didnt install the nvidia driver11:11
zorglu1inffcf00: no issue here. it may likely come from your graphic card drivers11:12
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MeMyselfI got some ghosting when moving icons on the desktop11:12
uniqpierre_: no, i'm aware of that. I run linux on a mac, so i often have to compile applications myself as few upstream projects provide binaries that matches my setup. That's why I said I don't have time to compiled code::blocks right now, and test for you. the checkinstall stuff was for something else, just ignore that part. You can always go to http://launchpad.net/malone and search in the bugs database. You might find someone with similar problems.11:12
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MeMyselfAndII'm using the radeon driver11:13
MeMyselfAndIthe opensource one I mean11:13
arso1234so how do i format a disk using ext3 filesystem!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!11:13
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TheHighChildarso1234: Do you want a graphical app or a command string?11:14
berkesarso1234: just continue typing some more !s and ?s and it will happen by magic :)11:14
uniqarso1234: ?!?!?!?!? mkfs.ext3 ?!?!?!??!? :)11:14
pierre_thanks uniq11:14
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arso1234sorry11:14
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arso1234:P11:14
arso1234but i didnt understand anything11:14
arso1234 i am a total linux newbie11:15
arso1234so please a bit more detail11:15
uniqarso1234: then i suggest using 'qtparted'11:15
arso1234and sorry about the !! its just i asked 15 mins a go, and no answer11:15
uniqpreferably from the livecd if you have it.11:15
arso1234uniq yes i have it11:15
MeMyselfAndIwhy do u want to format it in ext3?11:15
arso1234wat should i do exactly11:15
arso1234MeMyselfAndI coz thats the best?11:15
arso1234uniq wat do i ddo with the live cd exactly?11:15
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MeMyselfAndInot really11:15
berkesarso1234: not perse.11:15
arso1234MeMyselfAndI then wat is?11:16
root__can someone help me fix software raid?  it worked on x64 very well , but the x32 doesnt work for shit ,11:16
MeMyselfAndIif u got a laptop for example it's definitely not the best11:16
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uniqarso1234: boot from the livecd, alt+f2 'qtparted' and use the program to format your partition.11:16
arso1234no its a desktop11:16
MeMyselfAndIanyway it is just like ext2 plus journaling11:16
MeMyselfAndIand not everybody needs that journaling thing11:16
arso1234and i need something that can work on windows, ext3 has a driver that makes it work on windows11:16
MeMyselfAndIif there's a windows driver for ext3 there must be a driver for ext211:17
arso1234ya its the same driver11:17
uniqext3 is best :)11:17
arso1234so i should format it with ext2? or 3? :s11:17
uniqarso1234: 3.11:17
MeMyselfAndII'm talking about ext2 because that's probably the filesystem u already got on your linux distro isn it11:17
arso1234nope11:17
uniqext3 is default.11:17
berkesarso1234: if you want to learn more about the stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_systems11:17
arso1234i got ext3 on my distro11:17
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MeMyselfAndIthen why u want to format it again?11:17
MeMyselfAndIjw11:17
Sc[_] ttgreetings11:18
TheHighChildberkes: ftw11:18
arso1234coz i have ntfs11:18
arso1234and it doesnt work11:18
MeMyselfAndI??11:18
arso1234i am dual booting windows and linux11:18
arso1234started today11:18
MeMyselfAndIwhen u install linux it formats it's own partition11:18
berkesTheHighChild? what is ftw?11:18
arso1234i have 7partitions 200gb11:18
TheHighChildberkes: for the win, I'm retarded ;)11:18
MeMyselfAndIso u want to use one of these partitions with a linux filesystem too11:19
MeMyselfAndIu mean11:19
arso1234uniq some guy earlier told me about a command that i must type once to define data access or something so that  when i write data onto ext3 from windows i can access it on linux otherwise i'll get access denied11:19
berkeswell, that wiki entruy has a very good background why you should/could choose certain FSs really nice stuff.11:19
StRhi all11:19
arso1234MeMyselfAndI i want to make the rest of my drives read/write on both windows AND linux11:19
StRcan anyone help me sharring my Internet connection?11:19
TheHighChildberkes: I know, that's why i was giving the props on dragging it out11:19
MeMyselfAndIic11:19
berkeshah11:20
senseiWha, I love kubuntu! First solitare I lay in years works out!11:20
arso1234but i need to know the command11:20
arso1234that give s me access11:20
arso1234to data i write in windows onto ext311:20
arso1234i heard u type it once then data access is defined11:20
uniqarso1234: sorry, don't know, Haven't used windows in years.11:20
berkessensei: LOL11:20
arso1234some guy told me about it earlier11:20
MeMyselfAndI??11:20
MeMyselfAndIsorry I lost u11:20
uniqstr: guidedog can. find 'guidedog' in adept.11:21
Sc[_] ttquestion: dual boot system, xp and kubuntu, 80 gb hd, 4 partitions, dvd burner... want to create restore dvd to instantly restore my xp and linux install... have looked at partimage as well as dd and tar, someone knowledgable care to offer suggestions, ideas?11:21
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arso1234MeMyselfAndI when i write data from windows onto an ext3 partition it opens fine in windows, but if i try to access that file on linux, i get access denied, theres a command that patches that, and makes me able to access it regularly11:22
negocio_how can i solve the $_layout message of dosemu11:22
negocio_?11:22
MeMyselfAndIwell you  have to mount partitions in linux in order to have access to them11:22
Cornellius!firestarter11:22
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)11:22
CornelliusMe too11:22
CornelliusCaptiveNTFS11:22
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arso1234MeMyselfAndI donno, he mentioned something else11:22
CornelliusCaptiveNTFS if you want to read and write NTFS partitions from Linux11:22
uniqsc[_] tt: sysresccd with partimage is what i use to make backups of partitions/disks. It is so cool :) http://sysresccd.org/Main_Page11:23
MeMyselfAndIwell depending on how u want to use th epartition you have to mount it in one way or another11:23
MeMyselfAndIyou have to add some lines to some configuration files so that they mount automatically each time u boot linux11:23
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arso1234MeMyselfAndI u know about those commands11:23
MeMyselfAndIu better google on the subject of mounting partitions in linux11:23
arso1234k11:24
MeMyselfAndIbut anyway kubuntu should have graphical interfaces to do all these stuff11:24
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arso1234i11:25
arso1234c11:25
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arso1234brb11:26
arso1234i'll restart into linux11:26
arso1234and come here11:26
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MeMyselfAndIanyone can comment about graphical glitches in kubuntu?11:27
MeMyselfAndIanyone using radeon opensource driver??11:28
Cornellius!ati11:29
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:29
MeMyselfAndIwhat?11:29
MeMyselfAndII can't use ati binaries11:29
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arsohey11:29
MeMyselfAndImobility radeon 7500 not supported11:29
arsoits arso11:29
MeMyselfAndIon these11:29
arsoi am gonna format now11:29
arsohey11:30
arsomy live cd is in11:30
arsoi went to command11:30
arso"qtparted" telling me its wrong command11:30
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uniqis this a kubuntu livecd?11:30
uniq6.06?11:30
arsoomg, i put in my windows xp cd :P11:31
arsogot the right one in now11:31
arsowtf11:31
arsostill didnt work11:31
arsocould not run the specified comand11:31
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uniqwell, I really have to go now, so I can only wish you good luck.11:32
uniqbye all.11:32
arsoomg11:32
arsowhose gonna help me!11:32
arsothe live cd11:32
arsoyet qtparted now workin11:32
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sbriscoeif you apt-get kubuntu-desktop, how do you uninstall gnome from your system?11:33
edisonhi everyone11:33
arsohi11:33
edisoncan anyone help me? i have an audio problem11:34
|lostbyte|sbriscoe, let me guess gnome-desktop :P11:34
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sbriscoeapt-get uninstall gnome-desktop?11:34
|lostbyte|edison, Your problem ? some one here may know..11:34
edisoni used to have audio now i dont and dont know why11:34
arso|lostbyte|:  heyyy11:34
|lostbyte|sbriscoe, "remove"11:34
arso|lostbyte|:  i fixed the resolution11:34
|lostbyte|arso, hai !11:35
arso|lostbyte|:  now i am goign to format everything to ext3 but dont know how to format in linux, can u tell me please?11:35
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gatekeeperedison: what happens if start alsamixer from the command line?11:35
|lostbyte|arso, how come ? what was the problem ?11:35
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edisonhow can i do that?11:35
|lostbyte|arso, Are you in linux now ?11:36
arso|lostbyte|:  well with ntfs i cant write on linux, but i downlaoded an ext3 driver for windows, so i am going to make all my partitions ext311:36
arso|lostbyte|:  yes i am in linux11:36
arso|lostbyte|:  i have freed up the first partition, and i am ready to format it into ext3 , just dont know how11:36
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gatekeeperedison: start a konsol from you menu System -> Konsol11:36
|lostbyte|arso, ok ! tell me your partiton.. status..11:37
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arso|lostbyte|:  well its a 8gb ntfs partition i shifted its data to another partition11:37
|lostbyte|arso, whats your hd size ?11:37
edisonu mean from terminal??11:37
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gatekeeperedison: yep11:37
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sonicIs system mail deactivated in kubuntu by default?11:37
arso|lostbyte|:  the whole hdd is 40 gb11:37
edisonok11:37
edisonim there11:37
arso|lostbyte|:  but iam doing it partition /partition , as i dont have enough space to back them all up at once,11:38
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|lostbyte|arso, ok ! how much is your first partions and type ?11:38
arso|lostbyte|:  after i format this, i am going to windows, to return its data to it and free up another11:38
sonicor why wouldn't there be anything in /var/mail ?11:38
gatekeeperedison: does your sound appear to be turned on?11:38
flakea couple of windows programs i run under wine, sometimes the buttons don't redraw until I click on them - otherwise they are black. Is there something I can change with wine or some parameter?11:38
arso|lostbyte|:  wat do u mean?11:38
edisonyes11:38
edisonbut i start session in windows and sounds work but it dosnt in linux11:39
arso|lostbyte|:  are u there man?11:39
|lostbyte|arso, sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda11:39
arso|lostbyte|:  wat does that do?11:39
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edison3 days ago i had sound now i dont, so i dont know what could be the prob11:39
|lostbyte|arso, Yes ! man.. :P11:40
|lostbyte|arso, it simply list your partition table.11:40
arsooh ok11:40
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edisoni change the audio cables to discard the prob11:40
santa44I have a problem with the shutdown under Dapper Drake someone else have this problem and a solution for it ?11:40
arso|lostbyte|:  ok now wat?11:40
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gatekeeperedison: if you select system setting -> sound and press the test sound button you get nothing?11:41
arso|lostbyte|:  it doesnt show how much space it has11:41
|lostbyte|arso, whats your first partition ?11:41
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|lostbyte|arso, it says : under blocks11:41
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santa44nobody here with the same problem11:41
arso|lostbyte|:  oh ok, the partition i want to format is not on this hdd11:42
Healot!ask11:42
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:42
arsoi think its in sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb11:42
|lostbyte|arso, huh ? you have two drives ?11:42
arso|lostbyte|:  omg, i have 311:42
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|lostbyte|arso, LOLZ..11:43
Healotjust fdisk -l11:43
arso|lostbyte|:  hey how can i identify the partitions, if i change their name in windows , will it appear here? or should i just remember their label11:43
arso|lostbyte|:  does the label stay?11:43
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|lostbyte|arso, ok ! but which partiton do you want to format.. ?11:44
|lostbyte|and on which drive ?11:44
|lostbyte|have you any idea ?11:44
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arsoi forgot :S11:44
arsoi need to go back to windows and remember11:45
|lostbyte|arso, no no !11:45
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arsoomg11:45
arsoi remember11:45
|lostbyte|linux has a diff way to locate drives..11:45
arsoi deleted the partition11:45
arsoits unpartitioned space now11:45
gatekeeperedison: you still with me?11:46
|lostbyte|arso, ok ! never mind..11:46
azzcoHello...I'm trying to install some plugins for amsn...however I need root acces to touch /usr/share/amsn/plugins. So I tried "sudo cp /home/username/Desktop/plugin that I've unzipped here" didn't work =/ any suggestions?11:46
arso|lostbyte|:  ok ,so can we partition unpartitioned space easily from linux11:46
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|lostbyte|arso, run cfdisk from konsole.11:47
azzcostoffepojken: swedish?11:47
arso|lostbyte|:  isnt there any simple straight forward program like partition magic here on linux to do that11:47
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|lostbyte|and you will get a sweet interface.11:47
arso|lostbyte|:  fatal error : cannot open disk drive11:47
arso|lostbyte|:  did i mention the disk drives are not able to be mounted on linnnux11:47
|lostbyte|with sudo11:47
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arsowith anything11:48
arsothat other guy who helped me earlier afm/ something  tried11:48
|lostbyte|sudo cfdisk11:48
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arsocommand not found11:48
arsooh sorry11:48
arsoi made a typo11:48
arsook i am in11:48
|lostbyte|can you see unpatitioned space ?11:49
arsoyes11:49
arsobut its only 8mb, so its on this hdd11:49
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|lostbyte|usually one with out a fs type..11:49
arsoya i see 8.3 mb unpartitioned11:49
arsohow can i check the other 2 hdd;s11:50
|lostbyte|sudo cfdisk /dev/hd[a-d11:50
|lostbyte|sudo cfdisk /dev/hd[a-d] 11:50
arsothats for which one? d?11:50
|lostbyte|arso, let me explain..11:51
arsook its the third one11:51
arsowats the command for the thrid one11:51
|lostbyte|ok !11:51
arsothe partition i want is on the remaining hd11:51
|lostbyte|sudo cfdisk /dev/hdc11:51
arsonono11:52
arsoi dont have c11:52
arsoi have a,b,d11:52
DaSkreechhdc is CDrom11:52
arsoahh i c11:52
gatekeeper!daylight saving11:52
ubotuI know nothing about daylight saving11:52
|lostbyte|arso, check all and tell me..11:52
|lostbyte|DaSkreech, Depends.11:52
gatekeeper!clock11:53
ubotuI know nothing about clock11:53
zorglu1!time11:53
ubotuI know nothing about time11:53
arsou suer the command is right11:53
DaSkreechI know but it seems to be the most common configuration :-)11:53
zorglu1!timezone11:53
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ubotuI know nothing about timezone11:53
arsoi keep getting unpartitioned space11:53
zorglu1??11:53
arsowith insane blocks11:53
zorglu1meme pas timezone ?11:53
^Cas^!edubuntu11:53
ubotuEdubuntu is an Ubuntu derivative aimed at schools and educational institutions. For more info, see http://www.edubuntu.org11:53
zorglu1sorry not even timezone11:53
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gatekeeperzorglu1: it's flaming useless :-)11:54
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zorglu1;011:54
|lostbyte|!listkeys11:54
ubotuI know nothing about listkeys11:54
arsooi11:54
|lostbyte|!search *11:54
ubotuFound: code, gr, kdeincludes, alternatives, kde docs, themes, browsers, scp, lgpl, icons (and 344 more)11:54
arso|lostbyte|:  wrong commands dude11:54
|lostbyte|!search a*11:55
ubotuFound: code, gr, kdeincludes, alternatives, kde docs, themes, browsers, scp, lgpl, icons (and 340 more)11:55
gatekeeperzorglu1: I seem to have this slightly annoying problem, cold swap disc between linux / windows and some the clock time gets knackered :-(11:55
|lostbyte|arg !11:55
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|lostbyte|double ARGh !11:55
zorglu1gatekeeper: 'cold swap disc' = ?11:56
arso:(*11:56
arsoi NEED commands,11:56
fiyawerxok, wow, running nomachine on my desktop at home, then the client now on my kubuntu laptop at work, love this program, it flies11:56
|lostbyte|arso, Sorry ! dude.. i need to get in bed..11:56
arsoomg11:56
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arso..11:56
arsook11:56
arso:(11:56
zorglu1yep nomachine is real nice and the guy put it in opensource11:56
zorglu1houray for him!11:57
|lostbyte|arso, You need to understand the concept of partitioning before doing it..11:57
arsoya well someone can help me11:57
|lostbyte|tldp.org11:57
gatekeeperzorglu1: yep I got a 'caddy' system, turn computer off put whichever hard disc you want to boot from, turn the PC on, and off you go11:57
fiyawerxyeah zorg, the linux client runs even faster than the windows client11:57
fiyawerxthis is insane fast11:57
|lostbyte|arso, read a little or search for partioning wiki for linux..11:57
zorglu1gatekeeper: ah ok, i had those a long time ago11:57
arso|lostbyte|:  ok willdo11:57
|lostbyte|arso, start here : google.com/linux/11:57
zorglu1gatekeeper: this should not affect the time tho :)11:58
|lostbyte|arso, TC ! and goodnight..11:58
zorglu1gatekeeper: well doing time management is not that hard11:58
zorglu1gatekeeper: put the gmt hour in the bios11:58
zorglu1gatekeeper: then config kubuntu according to your timezone11:58
azzcocan someone help me a bit here I really have problems moving folders and files unless I'm just operating in home or desktop11:58
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zorglu1azzco: 1. describe your problem (aka what you want to do, and what you dont suceed to do)11:59
gatekeeperzorglu1: thanx I will have a look at that, was woundering if kubuntu was getting confused about BST11:59
zorglu1gatekeeper: nope, it works without issue IF properly configured :)12:00
azzcoI'm trying to move a couple of folders from my desktop to /usr/shar/amsn/plugins12:00
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gatekeeperzorglu1: have to take a closer look thanx for your help :-)12:01
arso|lostbyte|:  goodnight12:01
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xstNormally I write "dpkg-reconfigure locales" in order to redefine the list of installed locales. But now it just re-calculates the locales giving me no selection list. How do I modify the list of installed locales then?12:02
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hussamkkathman, hey!12:04
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