| LaserJock | bddebian: hmm, no | 12:07 |
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| LaserJock | interesting | 12:08 |
| LaserJock | I like how there are lots of little sites with Debian packages that nobody bother's to put in the archives | 12:09 |
| bddebian | :-) | 12:09 |
| bddebian | They built scilab with debhelper :-( | 12:09 |
| LaserJock | at least they are sane ;-) | 12:09 |
| bddebian | Heh :-) | 12:09 |
| bddebian | Oh well gotta head home, talk to you all later | 12:11 |
| LaserJock | cya bddebian | 12:11 |
| crimsun | oh god, eye-stabbity sound fun | 12:23 |
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| theCore | is it possible to get mplayer source package? | 12:32 |
| crimsun | do you mean upstream upstream or the version we use? | 12:32 |
| crimsun | the former is at www.mplayerhq.hu; the latter is ``apt-get source mplayer'' | 12:32 |
| theCore | well, I just need the debian/ folder | 12:32 |
| theCore | apt-get source doesn't work with mplayer | 12:33 |
| crimsun | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer_0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8.diff.gz | 12:33 |
| crimsun | yes it does. | 12:33 |
| crimsun | do you have the deb-src line for multiverse? | 12:33 |
| theCore | Hmm... maybe not | 12:33 |
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| theCore | deb-src for multiverse was missing | 12:35 |
| theCore | thanks crimsun | 12:35 |
| crimsun | np | 12:35 |
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| nexu | is it save to dist-upgrade to edgy for dbus atm? | 01:03 |
| crimsun | I wouldn't. | 01:04 |
| crimsun | you /may/ be able to get away with using it in a chroot | 01:04 |
| nexu | so how about just using the dbus 0.62 from edgy in dapper? | 01:05 |
| ajmitch | morning | 01:08 |
| crimsun | 'morning ajmitch | 01:08 |
| crimsun | nexu: you have rope, of course you can hang yourself | 01:08 |
| crimsun | nexu: why is 0.62 critical? | 01:08 |
| nexu | crimsun: x_X | 01:08 |
| nexu | crimsun: dev testing | 01:08 |
| nexu | crimsun: no its not critical | 01:08 |
| crimsun | nexu: then use edgy in a chroot | 01:08 |
| nexu | k | 01:09 |
| nexu | or i might go copmile dbus 0.62 myself ... | 01:09 |
| crimsun | sure, you're free to do whatever | 01:10 |
| nexu | just asking :> | 01:10 |
| nexu | yeah wait, i'll brb..gonna jump off a flat | 01:11 |
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| zul | hey | 01:32 |
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| ajmitch | hi zul | 01:33 |
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| ajmitch | morning jsgotangco | 01:34 |
| jsgotangco | good morning ajmitch | 01:34 |
| zul | hey ajmitch how is the land down under? | 01:35 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 01:35 |
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| ajmitch | so much work... | 01:41 |
| zul | quit complaining ;) | 01:42 |
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| zul | hehehe...someone said merge | 01:44 |
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| crimsun | probably not a good idea to use edgy's sudo | 02:10 |
| ajmitch | how broken is it today? | 02:10 |
| crimsun | bug 51246 | 02:12 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 51246 in sudo "1.6.8p12-4ubuntu1 update causes parse errors" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51246 | 02:12 |
| ajmitch | a good thing I enable root on my systems | 02:13 |
| TheMuso | there is a newer version. | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | (edgy)luke@marlon:~/Projects/Ubuntu_Development/edgy/sources/speech-dispatcher$ | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | apt-cache show sudo | grep Version | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | Version: 1.6.8p12-1ubuntu6 | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | No sorry, that is an older one. | 02:18 |
| TheMuso | thanks for the heads up. | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | hmm, this is interesting. Anybody know how to remove lines from a file without reading the whole thing? | 02:19 |
| zul | sed | 02:20 |
| Kyral | grep :P | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | don't you still have to read the whole file? | 02:20 |
| crimsun | your question is phrased a bit strangely | 02:20 |
| Kyral | quickest way to nuke blank lines is.... | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: sorry | 02:20 |
| Kyral | grep -v ^$ <file> | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | got an email from my local LUG, a guy has a 2.3 GB file that he wants to remove the first 300 lines of | 02:21 |
| Kyral | yikes | 02:21 |
| LaserJock | so he wants to remove the lines without having to deal with the rest of the file | 02:21 |
| azeem | that's possible with either head or tail I think | 02:22 |
| Kyral | how many lines? | 02:22 |
| Kyral | total? | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | not sure | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | lots I'm guessing | 02:22 |
| azeem | hrm | 02:22 |
| Kyral | well, you can do it with tail | 02:22 |
| Kyral | but you need to know the number of lines | 02:22 |
| azeem | that would write out everything, no? | 02:22 |
| truz_`24 | run wc on it :-) | 02:22 |
| Kyral | tail -n (number of lines infile - 300) >> newfile | 02:22 |
| Kyral | wait | 02:22 |
| LaserJock | the first thing he tried was sed '1,300d' | 02:23 |
| azeem | I think he wants to evade the "newfile" | 02:23 |
| Kyral | tail -n (number of lines in file - 300) filename > filename | 02:23 |
| Kyral | there you go | 02:23 |
| crimsun | ick | 02:23 |
| truz_`24 | isn't that going to read the file into memory? | 02:23 |
| crimsun | tail +301 foo | 02:23 |
| azeem | Kyral: that still writes stuff, no? | 02:23 |
| Kyral | no | 02:23 |
| Kyral | well, TECHNICALLY | 02:23 |
| Kyral | but it clobbers the file with itself :P | 02:24 |
| Kyral | > clobbers whatever the target is, >> appends :P | 02:24 |
| azeem | well, "write stuff" as in shove 2GB in memory and later back on disk | 02:24 |
| truz_`24 | so how can u move the file pointer 300 lines down? | 02:24 |
| Kyral | dunno | 02:24 |
| Kyral | oh I KNOW! | 02:24 |
| truz_`24 | I know you can do it with a c program | 02:24 |
| Kyral | vim <file> | 02:24 |
| crimsun | you don't need wc, just use tail by itself | 02:24 |
| truz_`24 | so there has to be a *nix utility to do it | 02:24 |
| Kyral | then in vim | 02:24 |
| azeem | Kyral: dude | 02:24 |
| Kyral | 300dd :P | 02:24 |
| azeem | I think a small C program should be easiest | 02:25 |
| Kyral | you'd still need to load it into memory doncha? | 02:25 |
| truz_`24 | no | 02:25 |
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| azeem | Kyral: no | 02:25 |
| truz_`24 | You just move the file pointer down | 02:25 |
| Kyral | heh, been a while since I messed with C++ File I/O | 02:25 |
| Kyral | and I was never good at it in the first place | 02:26 |
| Kyral | Ruby FTW :P | 02:26 |
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| zul | LaserJock: you could use perl :) | 02:31 |
| LaserJock | somebody suggested: | 02:32 |
| LaserJock | BYTES=$(head -300 nameofbigfile.txt | wc -c) | 02:33 |
| LaserJock | dd if=nameofbigfile.txt of=truncatedversion.pl ibs=$BYTES skip=1 | 02:33 |
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| bmonty | has anyone decided the process for requesting syncs? open a bug and subscribe the archive team? | 02:47 |
| crimsun | that's what I've been doing, and the ones I've opened have been processed within a couple hours of my filing them | 02:47 |
| bmonty | are you addind build logs and such or just requesting the sync? | 02:48 |
| crimsun | I've titled all mine: "[Edgy MoM] Please sync foobar version-# from Debian Sid" | 02:48 |
| crimsun | in the bug report I've linked to REPORT and underneath it said "Ok to override Ubuntu change{,s}" | 02:49 |
| bmonty | ok, thanks crimsun | 02:49 |
| crimsun | I keep a browser tab open to the june '06 edgy-changes, and it refreshes every 3 minutes | 02:50 |
| bmonty | what is the URL for that? | 02:50 |
| crimsun | that way I can Find before I ../grab-merge.sh | 02:50 |
| crimsun | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-June/thread.html | 02:50 |
| zul | crimsun: how does that script work... | 02:50 |
| crimsun | zul: grab-merge.sh basically wgets | 02:51 |
| zul | yeah i know that part but what arguments does it take? | 02:51 |
| crimsun | source package name | 02:52 |
| zul | ah ok...so something like grab-merge.sh abuse-sdl right? | 02:52 |
| bmonty | zul: yup, except I'm working that one ;) | 02:53 |
| zul | bmonty: er that was an example | 02:53 |
| bmonty | zul: ok, just wanted to make sure we don't duplicate any effort | 02:53 |
| crimsun | yeah, bmonty and I have history of toe-stomping ;) | 02:54 |
| bmonty | crimsun: :) | 02:55 |
| bmonty | for the record I'm going to work the package that have my name next to them in the universe list | 02:55 |
| crimsun | yeah, that's what I'm doing | 02:55 |
| zul | good idea | 02:55 |
| crimsun | (except I'm taking bzflag atm) | 02:56 |
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| TheMuso | What does one do with the changelog if the only conflicting files are config.sub and config.guess? | 03:05 |
| TheMuso | Do we change the MOM entry to one of our own? | 03:06 |
| bmonty | TheMuso: request a sync | 03:06 |
| bmonty | you would want to override the ubuntu package with the version from debian | 03:06 |
| TheMuso | Ah but the package I am working on has ubuntu-specific changes. A sync is not the right thing to do in this instance. | 03:07 |
| TheMuso | But the only conflicts are those I mentioned. | 03:07 |
| bmonty | get the latest debian version, add the ubuntu changes, include the ubuntu changelog entries in the new version | 03:08 |
| bmonty | and the changelog entry could be something like "Resynchronize with Debian." | 03:08 |
| bmonty | changelog entry for the new version that is | 03:09 |
| TheMuso | Ok. | 03:09 |
| LaserJock | TheMuso: but make sure to include old Ubuntu changelog entries | 03:12 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: Yeah I know. Mom has done all of that for me, except the config.* changes, which are moot anyway. | 03:13 |
| bmonty | hmmm...I wonder if MoM could be configured to ignore bootstrap files? | 03:14 |
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| bmonty | doh, I just made a mistake :( | 03:28 |
| bmonty | forgot to use the -v option on dpkg-genchanges | 03:28 |
| LaserJock | doh | 03:28 |
| crimsun | hmm, you're not using the merge-genchanges? | 03:31 |
| crimsun | (I don't, but I pass its contents to debuild) | 03:31 |
| bmonty | I'm not using merge-genchanges...where do I get it? | 03:33 |
| crimsun | it'll be in ../ | 03:33 |
| crimsun | that is, one level above the extracted source | 03:33 |
| bmonty | ok, I see it | 03:33 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 03:42 |
| bmonty | hi bddebian | 03:42 |
| bddebian | Hi bmonty | 03:42 |
| zul | TheMuso: ping | 03:45 |
| TheMuso | hmm ok. Looks like the grab-merge.sh script can't handle versions with a : in them. | 03:45 |
| TheMuso | zul: pong | 03:45 |
| zul | TheMuso: new grub has beep support | 03:46 |
| TheMuso | Cool. | 03:46 |
| TheMuso | Grub 2 you mean? | 03:46 |
| zul | nope grub1 | 03:46 |
| zul | er...for edgy | 03:46 |
| bmonty | TheMuso: yeah, I had the problem also | 03:46 |
| crimsun | looks like it just needs to be escaped | 03:50 |
| crimsun | just ping keybuk about it tomorrow | 03:50 |
| ajmitch | I guess I should do some merges before bddebian does them all | 03:52 |
| bddebian | pfft | 03:53 |
| crimsun | love finding merge candidates that are really syncable | 03:53 |
| bddebian | If there is install/foo:: in a cdbs rules, is that just for $package foo? | 03:59 |
| bddebian | I still don't understand how the hell scilab-3.0 builds and 4.0 seems to install completely differently | 04:01 |
| bmonty | this control file is totally screwed | 04:02 |
| bmonty | package A depends on package B, and package B has it on the conflicts line and conflicts itself | 04:03 |
| crimsun | the conflicts aren't versioned? | 04:03 |
| bmonty | nope | 04:03 |
| crimsun | bddebian: yes, just for foo | 04:04 |
| bddebian | bmonty: Nice | 04:04 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Then how the f**k is scilab-3.0 building | 04:05 |
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| crimsun | that's usually a sign to move on to another package and come back to it after a space | 04:06 |
| bmonty | is it policy for a package with python2.3-foo and python2.4-foo to conflict each other | 04:06 |
| bddebian | crimsun: If that is the case then cdbs will build in debian/foo/ right? | 04:07 |
| crimsun | bddebian: given an adequately high dh_compat, yes | 04:07 |
| bddebian | 4? | 04:07 |
| crimsun | yes, it should | 04:07 |
| bddebian | Then why the hell do the .install files look like this: ? | 04:08 |
| bddebian | debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/X11_defaults/ | 04:08 |
| bddebian | debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/config/ | 04:08 |
| bddebian | debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/contrib/ | 04:08 |
| bddebian | Of course now that I look at it, I'm not quite sure why it's broken into three binaries anyway | 04:09 |
| crimsun | the install files be broke | 04:11 |
| crimsun | anyhoo | 04:11 |
| crimsun | back in 90 mins | 04:12 |
| Hawkwind | crimsun: We're timing you, not a minute late you hear! | 04:12 |
| Hawkwind | Heh | 04:12 |
| shawarma | If anyone would care to take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2524 it would be much appreciated. | 04:25 |
| ogra | shawarma, hey its nearly 4:30 what are you still doing here ? | 04:28 |
| jsgotangco | same for you ogra :P | 04:30 |
| ogra | :P | 04:30 |
| ogra | i have an excuse, i had a meeting with debian ltsp :P | 04:30 |
| jsgotangco | heh | 04:30 |
| ogra | no, actually i was planning to be in bed 2h ago :) | 04:31 |
| jsgotangco | sounds like it went well... | 04:31 |
| ogra | yup | 04:31 |
| ogra | shawarma, at a first glance through my tired eyes the packaging looks fien | 04:32 |
| ogra | *fine too | 04:32 |
| bddebian | Fuuuuck | 04:32 |
| zul | no thanks | 04:33 |
| bddebian | Ah Mr. Knowitall, you want to help me with this? :0) | 04:34 |
| shawarma | ogra: I've got another exam tomorrow that I'm trying to prepare for. | 04:36 |
| shawarma | ogra: Somehow packaging random software seems more appealing. :-) | 04:37 |
| shawarma | ogra: For some odd reason I never manage to get any sleep before any of my exams. I always stay up *all* night preparing for them. | 04:38 |
| bmonty | good night everyone | 04:51 |
| shawarma | bmonty: G'night. | 04:51 |
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| chillywilly | anyone know how I can have a certain script/command executed when I power up a laptop that was hibernated via gnome-power-manager? | 06:31 |
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| imbrandon | chillywilly, might have better luck asking in #ubuntu ( as this is the packagers chan ) | 06:47 |
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| Toadstool | 'morning | 08:15 |
| Hobbsee | hi Toadstool | 08:15 |
| Toadstool | hey Hobbsee | 08:15 |
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| rob | when using pbuilder I'm getting the following error: I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd | 09:30 |
| rob | and ideas? | 09:31 |
| crimsun | happens periodically, just retry | 09:31 |
| rob | I have been for the last 8 hours or so | 09:31 |
| crimsun | does it load for you in a Web browser? (it does here) | 09:32 |
| rob | yes | 09:32 |
| crimsun | hmm. | 09:33 |
| crimsun | you might be able to get away with using --nonet | 09:33 |
| crimsun | that is, presuming you have docbook as a build-dep | 09:34 |
| crimsun | hmm | 09:35 |
| rob | docbook2x, yeah | 09:35 |
| crimsun | ah, you may need docbook-xml then | 09:36 |
| crimsun | since docbook-xml is only a Recommends for docbook2x | 09:36 |
| rob | hmm, never needed it before | 09:38 |
| crimsun | I dunno beyond that, sorry | 09:41 |
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| AnAnt | lionelp: u there ? | 09:43 |
| lionelp | yep | 09:43 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: thanks for your comments on vim | 09:44 |
| lionelp | oh, you're welcome :) | 09:44 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: I need to understand few stuff though | 09:44 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: where can I get the release that's in edgy ? (I did enable dapper-backports) | 09:44 |
| lionelp | search vim on http://package.ubuntu.com with edgy release | 09:45 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: does that mean that I have to do update in pbuilder ? as I am always building for dapper | 09:45 |
| lionelp | you will find it | 09:45 |
| AnAnt | k | 09:45 |
| AnAnt | that edgy release won't work for dapper I guess, right ? | 09:45 |
| crimsun | different toolchain. It may not work. | 09:46 |
| AnAnt | ic | 09:47 |
| AnAnt | crimsun: errr, that answer was for which question ? | 09:47 |
| crimsun | < AnAnt> that edgy release won't work for dapper I guess, right ? | 09:48 |
| AnAnt | crimsun: ok, thanks | 09:48 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: you said "release should be set to edgy, not expermental". does that mean that I have to do update in pbuilder ? as I am always building for dapper | 09:48 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: btw, I left that 'release' as is from the Debian repos | 09:49 |
| lionelp | If you plan to build package for REVU, you should update you pbuilder to dapper yes | 09:49 |
| lionelp | AnAnt: I understand, but we are talking for packages in Ubuntu, not Debian. So we use Ubuntu release, not Debian | 09:50 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: you mean update to edgy ? | 09:50 |
| dsas | Don't you want an edgy pbuilder? | 09:50 |
| lionelp | your pbuilder yes | 09:50 |
| lionelp | not necessary your complete machine | 09:50 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: what if I left pbuilder at dapper (ie. didn't update it to edgy), that won't be correct ? | 09:52 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: the thing is I build packages so that they would also work for my dapper | 09:52 |
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| lionelp | you can build your package for dapper ever if your changelog is for edgy | 09:52 |
| lionelp | but that alose means that you will not do a complete check | 09:52 |
| lionelp | also | 09:53 |
| AnAnt | ic | 09:53 |
| lionelp | you can have several pbuilder | 09:54 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: let me make sure I understand correctly. So I don't have to update my pbuilder to edgy, but in the changelog I should put the word edgy instead of 'unstable' or 'experimental', right ? | 09:54 |
| lionelp | right | 09:54 |
| lionelp | in that case, your source package will be correct | 09:55 |
| AnAnt | ok | 09:55 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 09:55 |
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| AnAnt | lionelp: should I put ubuntuX in version the release ? or that does not matter ? | 09:57 |
| lionelp | you mean the package version number or the Ubuntu release ? | 09:58 |
| AnAnt | huh? | 09:58 |
| lionelp | for ubuntu release in changelog, you only use codename ("dapper", "edgy") | 09:58 |
| AnAnt | like ubuntu0 or ubuntu1 , in version yes | 09:59 |
| AnAnt | is that a must or optional? | 09:59 |
| lionelp | it is a must as it is a build for Ubuntu | 09:59 |
| AnAnt | k | 09:59 |
| lionelp | you should add "ubuntu1" at the end of the Debian package rebuild | 09:59 |
| lionelp | (and if you do another package version ubuntu2, etc.) | 10:00 |
| AnAnt | btw, I thought REVU was for both Ubuntu & Debian, or am I wrong ? | 10:00 |
| lionelp | no, it is only for Ubuntu | 10:00 |
| AnAnt | ok | 10:00 |
| AnAnt | thanks a lot | 10:00 |
| AnAnt | was there a problem with REVU yesterday ? | 10:01 |
| AnAnt | nothing that I uploaded yesterday is there | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: you need to be a part of the REVU maintainer group to be able to upload | 10:01 |
| Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members | 10:01 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: well I am I guess, because I did upload stuff before | 10:02 |
| lionelp | AnAnt: it is quite new | 10:03 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: new ? | 10:04 |
| lionelp | before, you did not have to be a member of ubuntu-universe-contributors to upload in revu | 10:04 |
| AnAnt | oh | 10:05 |
| AnAnt | new system | 10:05 |
| Hobbsee | anyone know what libhamlib-dev got replaced by? | 10:05 |
| AnAnt | so, how to be member? | 10:06 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: join it, and wait for approval | 10:06 |
| AnAnt | ok | 10:06 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 10:06 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: hamlib-dev ? | 10:06 |
| AnAnt | now, I am mixed up, what is this channel for & what is #launchpad for ? | 10:07 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: b-d is libhamlib-dev | 10:07 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: where does hamlib-dev exist? | 10:07 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: libhamlib-dev is only valid in Debian testing/unstable (and thus Ubuntu Edgy) | 10:08 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: yes, so why cant my edgy pbuilder find it? | 10:09 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: libhamlib* actually replaces hamlib* | 10:09 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: because hamlib 1.2.5-6 hasn't been synced yet. | 10:09 |
| Hobbsee | crimsun: right, so i just ignore this package until it has been synced? | 10:10 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: right | 10:10 |
| lionelp | AnAnt: this channel is for contributing to the Universe repository of Ubuntu | 10:10 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: ...or file a sync request for hamlib | 10:10 |
| crimsun | Hobbsee: which you shouldn't need to do, since it'll be synced automatically | 10:10 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 10:10 |
| lionelp | #launchpad is for talking of launchpad the collaborative tool that Ubuntu used to manage the distro | 10:10 |
| AnAnt | oh | 10:11 |
| lucas | somebody has a script to file a "request sync" bug ? | 10:12 |
| sivang | morning all! | 10:15 |
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| Hobbsee | morning sivang! | 10:20 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: ok, so I am now registered, I can upload using dput now ? | 10:22 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: have they approved you yet? | 10:22 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: they ? | 10:22 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: Registration completed successfully | 10:22 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: that's what I got | 10:23 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: yes, but there's a difference between registration and approval | 10:23 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: also I got that I am "not an active member of any Launchpad teams." | 10:23 |
| AnAnt | Hobbsee: how do I know about approval ? | 10:23 |
| Hobbsee | AnAnt: what's your launchpad page? | 10:24 |
| AnAnt | https://launchpad.net/people/aelmahmoudy | 10:24 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: ping? | 10:26 |
| raphink | pong? | 10:26 |
| raphink | what's wrong? | 10:26 |
| AnAnt | that rhymes | 10:26 |
| raphink | hehe | 10:27 |
| anibal | crimsun: ping | 10:27 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: can AnAnt get approval to the REVU group? | 10:28 |
| raphink | haven't seen a request | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: apparently he just joined | 10:29 |
| raphink | havent received anything | 10:29 |
| raphink | let me have a look | 10:29 |
| anibal | raphink: could you please review my first ubuntu package? | 10:29 |
| raphink | anibal: haven't got time for that now | 10:30 |
| raphink | AnAnt: please request addition to the group, then i'll approve you | 10:30 |
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| AnAnt | raphink: where's that ? | 10:31 |
| raphink | AnAnt: add a GnuPG key to your LP account prior to do that, too | 10:31 |
| === StevenK wonders where MoM lives now. | ||
| TheMuso | What is the revu launchpad team for? | 10:31 |
| raphink | AnAnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 10:31 |
| raphink | TheMuso: getting upload rights to REVU | 10:31 |
| AnAnt | ic | 10:31 |
| TheMuso | Um ok. I thought that wasn't needed. | 10:31 |
| anibal | raphink: what do I need to get into REVU? | 10:31 |
| Hobbsee | anibal: get approval to join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members | 10:33 |
| nexu | get the page about how to join REVU basically | 10:33 |
| raphink | anibal: same question as AnAnt, same answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU | 10:33 |
| nexu | get to read* | 10:33 |
| raphink | so I don't feel like I write doc for nothing ;) | 10:34 |
| === nexu read them | ||
| nexu | :) | 10:34 |
| AnAnt | I did join REVU long time ago | 10:34 |
| AnAnt | but it seems that system changed or so | 10:34 |
| raphink | AnAnt: it changed last week | 10:35 |
| raphink | ;) | 10:35 |
| raphink | REVU is heading towards LP integration | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: that's got nothing about the recent launchpad team that you have to be added to, to upload, that i can see | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: (thank goodness for that!) | 10:36 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: I'm not sure to understand your sentence | 10:36 |
| raphink | but if I understood it, my answer is : "you don't need to be added to the team if you're already on REVU" | 10:36 |
| raphink | but new REVU uploaders need to | 10:36 |
| rob | I'm on both :) | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: now you have to join the group at https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members to upload - that doenst seem to be in that revu page | 10:36 |
| AnAnt | raphink: ok, I requested to join universe team now | 10:37 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: I updated the page though :s | 10:37 |
| AnAnt | and imported my gpg key in launchpad too | 10:37 |
| raphink | Hobbsee: please read the page again, carefuly ;) | 10:37 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: can you give me a section of text you're referring to - i cant see it | 10:38 |
| raphink | It is not necessary to GetYourKeySigned, but it is a good idea anyway. In order to upload to REVU, you will need to be added to the REVU keyring. Be sure that you have a [WWW] Launchpad account and that you have added your GPGKey to it. Then ask to [WWW] be added to the Ubuntu Universe Contributors team. One of the REVU admins will add you then to the group (== Upload rights for REVU). You don't need a password to upload packages, only to log | 10:38 |
| raphink | . | 10:38 |
| Hobbsee | raphink: ah right | 10:38 |
| raphink | I fixed it last week | 10:39 |
| raphink | :p | 10:39 |
| raphink | ok added new members | 10:40 |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Hobbsee] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU | ||
| AnAnt | raphink: thanks, so now I can use dput as I used to do before ? | 10:41 |
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| ajmitch | raphink: ran revu-key update on tiber? | 10:41 |
| ajmitch | it takes a little while | 10:41 |
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| raphink | ajmitch_: it's running right now | 10:42 |
| raphink | yes it takes some time | 10:42 |
| === ajmitch didn't want to run it while you were doing so :) | ||
| raphink | :) | 10:43 |
| raphink | update done | 10:43 |
| AnAnt | ok, I have a question, when I make a new version of a software, it doesn't create a .orig tarball, is that correct ? | 10:44 |
| ajmitch_ | hi \sh | 10:45 |
| AnAnt | hmmm, didn't upload still ?! | 10:47 |
| dsas | AnAnt: I believe that the upstream .orig file shouldn't have changed so there's no need for a new one. | 10:47 |
| AnAnt | dsas: it did change, what I meant, is that it doesn't call the original tarball .orig | 10:48 |
| AnAnt | dsas: it called it freedict_1.4-1ubuntu0.tar.gz | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | AnAnt: it shouldn't be creating a tarball at all | 10:49 |
| AnAnt | without .orig | 10:49 |
| ajmitch | you must make the .orig.tar.gz by renaming the upstream tarball | 10:49 |
| sivang | hey \sh | 10:50 |
| \sh | moins | 10:50 |
| Hobbsee | welcome back ajmitch | 10:51 |
| ajmitch | for a few minutes, at least | 10:52 |
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| AnAnt | ajmitch: ok, the thing is this, there was freedict-1.3, I added another dictionary to it, hence I thought I would bump the version to 1.4, is that ok so far ? | 11:01 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: hence, I renamed the source directory to freedict-1.4 | 11:06 |
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| === StevenK wonders how one takes ownership of a merge/sync. | ||
| StevenK | File a bug in LP, as per usual? | 11:08 |
| AnAnt | ok, fixed it | 11:16 |
| AnAnt | btw, I still can't upload anything | 11:18 |
| AnAnt | although I am now a contributor in universe | 11:19 |
| AnAnt | dput doesn't give me a problem | 11:19 |
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| StevenK | Are people grabbing onto merges/syncs? | 12:10 |
| tseng | yes | 12:10 |
| tseng | grab some | 12:10 |
| StevenK | How are we declaring ownership? | 12:10 |
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| AnAnt | btw, I still can't upload anything, although I am now a contributor in ubuntu universe. Although dput is not giving any errors, but I see nothing that I have uploaded today on REVU. Can anyone help ? | 12:50 |
| ajmitch | what have you uploaded, and with what version? | 12:51 |
| AnAnt | bitlbee-1.0.3 | 12:55 |
| AnAnt | what u mean, what version ? | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | the exact version | 12:55 |
| ajmitch | as given in debian/changelog | 12:56 |
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| AnAnt | bitlbee (1.0.3-1ubuntu0) edgy | 12:57 |
| Amaranth | err | 12:58 |
| Amaranth | should be 1.0.3-0ubuntu1 | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | and you didn't put your gpg key on launchpad | 12:58 |
| ajmitch | so there's nothing for the keyring update script to grab | 12:58 |
| AnAnt | why ubuntu1 ? | 12:58 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: I did | 12:58 |
| AnAnt | oh, that was a ssh key | 12:59 |
| ajmitch | AnAnt: it's not listed on your launchpad page | 12:59 |
| AnAnt | sorry | 12:59 |
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| AnAnt | what is the keyserver ? | 01:01 |
| ajmitch | just use the openpgpkeys link on the left | 01:02 |
| ajmitch | the key should be on any of the common keyservers | 01:02 |
| AnAnt | oh ok, done | 01:04 |
| AnAnt | waiting for the email, thanks | 01:04 |
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| AnAnt | ok, I put my PGP key, and tried to upload again, now dput gives me error 553 | 01:54 |
| ajmitch | because the files are already there | 01:55 |
| ajmitch | and the key isn't synced across yet | 01:55 |
| AnAnt | oh | 01:57 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: umm, how do I know if it is synced or not | 01:57 |
| ajmitch | you would have had to ask one of us | 01:58 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: you mean, that after the key is synced, the files I uploaded (before putting the key) will be on REVU ? | 01:58 |
| ajmitch | no | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | well | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | the files are still there | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | I'll remove them, and you can upload again | 01:59 |
| ajmitch | btw, you should not change the upstream version of freedict just because you made a change to it, unless you are upstream yourself | 01:59 |
| AnAnt | oic | 02:00 |
| AnAnt | k | 02:00 |
| AnAnt | I did issue dcut command | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | that's like adding a patch to firefox & calling it firefox 1.6 | 02:00 |
| ajmitch | dcut doesn't work for revu | 02:00 |
| AnAnt | oh | 02:01 |
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| zul | hey | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | hi zul | 02:16 |
| zul | hey ajmitch how goes it? | 02:16 |
| ajmitch | alright, you? | 02:16 |
| zul | good just having breakfast | 02:17 |
| yvesC | hi. | 02:17 |
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| yvesC | I would see pysycache in universe. http://pysycache.org/ . It's software for 3-6 kids, mouse-based amusement. | 02:18 |
| yvesC | pygame based. | 02:18 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: thanks, I am uploading now | 02:19 |
| AnAnt | ajmitch: as for freedict, when I add the new dictionary, I get this problem in dpkg-buildpackage "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to ara-eng-20041030.tar.gz: binary file contents changed" | 02:23 |
| ajmitch | which is why you can't add in binary files like that, but have to do workarounds like with uuencode, etc | 02:24 |
| === StevenK waves. | ||
| AnAnt | oh | 02:25 |
| StevenK | Wahh. | 02:25 |
| StevenK | It's been that long since I merged and synced that I've lost all my clues. | 02:25 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: yeah. if you are out of the loop for even a couple of weeks, it can sometimes take a while to catch up. | 02:27 |
| ajmitch | hi StevenK | 02:28 |
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| Gloubiboulga | Hello MOTU world | 02:32 |
| TheMuso | Hey Gloubiboulga | 02:34 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello TheMuso :) | 02:34 |
| === StevenK ponders how to debug a failing test in a build. | ||
| StevenK | While watching xemacs21 build. | 02:36 |
| StevenK | My poor amd64. xemacs21 is a bitch to build. | 02:36 |
| TheMuso | heh | 02:37 |
| ajmitch | peddle faster! | 02:37 |
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| StevenK | I'm already peddling at 2.8GHz | 02:38 |
| lfittl | siretart: ping | 02:43 |
| siretart | lfittl: yes? | 02:44 |
| ajmitch | hi siretart | 02:44 |
| lfittl | siretart: could you approve my membership for the ubuntu-universe-contributors team, so I can upload to revu again? | 02:44 |
| === ajmitch approved | ||
| ajmitch | siretart: I'll sync keys again | 02:45 |
| lfittl | ajmitch: thanks :) | 02:45 |
| ajmitch | since it was still in the history of another shell | 02:45 |
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| Gloubiboulga | is there an edgy chroot on tiber? | 03:15 |
| Gloubiboulga | edgy pbuilder* | 03:15 |
| raphink | not yet I think | 03:19 |
| Gloubiboulga | thanks raphink, et salut ;) | 03:19 |
| raphink | non y'a pas je confirme | 03:20 |
| raphink | il faudrait en faire un | 03:20 |
| \sh | salut:) | 03:20 |
| Gloubiboulga | guten tag \sh | 03:20 |
| raphink | hi \h | 03:21 |
| \sh | ok...let's wait until 800GB are formatted with ext3 *boring* | 03:21 |
| \sh | just FA Installing an ubuntu 6.06 server :) | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | hi \sh | 03:21 |
| Hobbsee | & raphink & Gloubiboulga | 03:22 |
| \sh | huhu raphink, Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, and all the rest of the motu crew :=) | 03:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello Hobbsee | 03:22 |
| raphink | ) | 03:22 |
| === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. | ||
| === Hobbsee splats on the ground. | ||
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| === ogra brings a shovel | ||
| Hobbsee | thanks ogra | 03:25 |
| === Hobbsee is shoveled into a little ball of hobbsee goo. | ||
| ogra | heh | 03:25 |
| === Mithrandir shakes Hobbsee a little so she gets back her usual form. ;-P | ||
| Hobbsee | heh | 03:26 |
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| === Hobbsee remains as hobbsee goo. | ||
| ajmitch | hm, hobbsee jam | 03:26 |
| Hobbsee | hehh | 03:28 |
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| chipmonk010 | im having some trouble uploading to revu is this the place to ask? | 03:32 |
| AnAnt | chipmonk010: when was your last successful update ? | 03:32 |
| chipmonk010 | this is the first one | 03:32 |
| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: are you part of the REVU group in launchpad? see the topic | 03:33 |
| chipmonk010 | yes was just added a few minutes ago | 03:33 |
| chipmonk010 | i tried uploading yesterday and the upload froze now im getting Error '553 Could not create file.' | 03:34 |
| chipmonk010 | i tried using dcut to remove the partially uploaded file *.dsc but no luck | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | because dcut can't be used on revu | 03:36 |
| ajmitch | and you need to ask an admin | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | i think you'll probably need a revu admin to remove the partially uploaded .dsc file? | 03:36 |
| Hobbsee | ajmitch is volunteering :P | 03:37 |
| === ajmitch sighs | ||
| chipmonk010 | lol | 03:37 |
| StevenK | Oh, damn. | 03:37 |
| === StevenK wonders if dcut works for upload.u.c | ||
| Hobbsee | you know you want to ajmitch | 03:38 |
| ajmitch | I already did it | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | oh good | 03:38 |
| TheMuso | Don't pressure the poor bloke, come on guys. | 03:38 |
| StevenK | I ought to run merge-genchanges | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: :P whyever not? | 03:38 |
| chipmonk010 | thanks guys | 03:38 |
| TheMuso | Maybe because he might have other things to do? | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: what, like sleep? | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | nah...it's not even midnight yet. | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | :P | 03:39 |
| sivang | StevenK: merge-genchanges is part of dpkg? | 03:39 |
| StevenK | sivang: No, MoM's grab-merge.sh generates it. | 03:40 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: how bad was your upload of xemacs21? | 03:41 |
| sivang | StevenK: hmm, I should finally go and read Scott's email about edgy MOM | 03:41 |
| chipmonk010 | oh before i upload again, my package is a fix for the mythv package already in the repos, is revu for new packages only? | 03:41 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: I should have run merge-genchanges, and didn't. | 03:41 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: which means? | 03:42 |
| chillywilly | yo | 03:42 |
| StevenK | ajmitch: The .changes file contained only my changes, not every change since the last version in edgy. | 03:43 |
| TheMuso | So where are you guys putting your merged packages for those who aren't MOTUs yet? | 03:43 |
| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: no, you can upload there | 03:43 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: revu | 03:43 |
| TheMuso | ah ok | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | StevenK: so that only matters for what's on the changes list | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | it's not going to be a bad upload | 03:43 |
| ajmitch | sure, some people will yell at you & all | 03:43 |
| StevenK | Well, it's my first upload. | 03:43 |
| StevenK | And I'm a pedantic bastard. | 03:44 |
| chipmonk010 | Hobbsee: ok cool thanks again | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | TheMuso: you've just got time | 03:51 |
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| TheMuso | Yeah I know. | 03:54 |
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| lfittl | could somebody review and upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2539 for me? (just a new upstream version, no new package) | 04:19 |
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| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, I'm having a look | 04:27 |
| lfittl | :) | 04:27 |
| chipmonk010 | i successfully uploaded a package to revu but i cant see it at http://revu.tauware.de/ nor can i recover my passwd does ne one know could i have to do something more the dput? | 04:27 |
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| lfittl | chipmonk010: the package takes approx. 5 min after your upload until it shows up | 04:29 |
| chipmonk010 | its been like 45mins still nothin | 04:31 |
| lfittl | chipmonk010: then ask one of the revu admins about it | 04:32 |
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| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: what's your login for launchpad? | 04:38 |
| chipmonk010 | Hobbsee: "chipmonk010" | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: join this team: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members | 04:39 |
| Toadstool | re | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | heya Toadstool | 04:40 |
| chipmonk010 | Hobbsee: im already a member | 04:40 |
| Toadstool | hey Hobbsee | 04:40 |
| lfittl | chipmonk010: is this your upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2541 ? | 04:40 |
| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: oh yeah. sorry - thought it was sorted by alphabetical order | 04:40 |
| chipmonk010 | yes thats it! thanks | 04:41 |
| lfittl | np ;) | 04:41 |
| chipmonk010 | Hobbsee: did u do something or did it just show up? | 04:44 |
| Hobbsee | chipmonk010: i didnt do anything to it | 04:44 |
| chipmonk010 | Hobbsee: strange oh well thanks neway | 04:45 |
| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, some files are missing in you packages, but maybe it's an upstream problem (investigating) | 04:50 |
| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: which files do you mean? | 04:50 |
| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: I am also part of upstream, so I can fix this too | 04:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | libloki.so.0 for example | 04:50 |
| lfittl | what file should that be? | 04:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | which should be a link to libloki.so.0.1.5 | 04:51 |
| lfittl | whats the reason to have this link? | 04:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | it gives you the soname | 04:51 |
| Gloubiboulga | 0 | 04:52 |
| lfittl | the soname is the full version, since every release changes the ABI | 04:52 |
| Gloubiboulga | hmm | 04:53 |
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| sivang | shawarma: ping | 05:03 |
| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: what are the other files that you think are missing? | 05:05 |
| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, only this one actually | 05:06 |
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| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: do you think there is something wrong about the soname? | 05:07 |
| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, not really _wrong_ but usually you find soname like .0 or .0.x, but I've never seen a so.0.1.5 | 05:08 |
| Gloubiboulga | actually, I've seen it once, but it's been changed :) | 05:08 |
| Gloubiboulga | if the ABI changes in a new release, you just have to switch from .0 to .1, that's not a problem I guess | 05:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | but I'm not good enough about that to tell you "that's the way it works" | 05:09 |
| Gloubiboulga | maybe someone else could confirm (or not ;) ) | 05:10 |
| lfittl | then lets ask, anybody here who has enough experience with sonames to help us out? | 05:10 |
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| Mithrandir | : tfheen@xoog ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 | grep SON SONAME libssl.so.0.9.7 | 05:12 |
| Mithrandir | bah | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | : tfheen@xoog ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 | grep SON | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | SONAME libssl.so.0.9.7 | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | so they cerrtainly exist. | 05:13 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok... | 05:13 |
| Mithrandir | certainly, even | 05:13 |
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| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: could you upload it then? :) | 05:14 |
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| Hobbsee | hey bddebian! | 05:15 |
| bddebian | Hi Hobbsee | 05:16 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 05:16 |
| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, yep, sorry for the noise | 05:18 |
| Gloubiboulga | hi bddebian | 05:18 |
| lfittl | no problem ;) | 05:19 |
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| bddebian | Hi Gloubiboulga | 05:20 |
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| lfittl | Gloubiboulga: thanks | 05:26 |
| Gloubiboulga | lfittl, thanks you ;) | 05:27 |
| Gloubiboulga | s/thanks/thank | 05:27 |
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| DanielC | I'm thinking of making a package that would add a menu entry to OpenOffice.org (it'd add Help > User Guide). Are there any problems with changing OOo menus? | 05:49 |
| DanielC | I mean... would it get rejected on that basis? | 05:50 |
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| Hobbsee | BOO! | 06:02 |
| bddebian | ahh | 06:02 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | lol. | 06:02 |
| === Hobbsee doesnt understand why teh fonts are quite so small. | ||
| Birthday_Kaiser | they arnte very big :) | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | no, but why are the defaults so small? | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | i think someone needs to do some DPI work with edgy | 06:05 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | some funny kde reason probalby :) | 06:05 |
| Hobbsee | Birthday_Kaiser: this is gnome | 06:05 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | Hobbsee, :o | 06:05 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | its your comjpute :P | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | ;P | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 06:06 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | lol | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | this is a live cd | 06:06 |
| === Birthday_Kaiser huggles Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee huggles Birthday_Kaiser | ||
| Birthday_Kaiser | yay | 06:06 |
| === Birthday_Kaiser huggles bddebian | ||
| === Hobbsee wants to configure xterm BLACK! | ||
| Birthday_Kaiser | you dont have xterm :OP{ | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | white on light grey does not work. | 06:06 |
| Hobbsee | sure i do, that's what i'm chatting from | 06:06 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | no, your using gnome-terminal | 06:07 |
| Hobbsee | i started xterm specifically | 06:07 |
| === Birthday_Kaiser didnt think xterm was on the live cd | ||
| Hobbsee | Birthday_Kaiser: seems to be,j ust hidden | 06:08 |
| Birthday_Kaiser | Hobbsee, hehe. like the ohter 1200 apps ;) | 06:08 |
| bddebian | Heya Birthday_Kaiser | 06:11 |
| === Hobbsee pokes and prods bddebian | ||
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| Birthday_kgoetz | hey bddebian :) | 06:13 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: ? | 06:13 |
| === Birthday_kgoetz just crashed.... | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: no apparent reason why | 06:14 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | i keep crashing ;'( | 06:14 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: OK :) | 06:14 |
| bddebian | Birthday_Kaiser: So is it your birthday? | 06:14 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | bddebian: yep :) for 24 hours :) | 06:15 |
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| Birthday_kgoetz | bddebian: i'm 20 today :), the sad thjin is i have spend teh last 2 hours hugging people online ;) | 06:16 |
| bddebian | Egads, I could be your father :) | 06:17 |
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| bddebian | Birthday_kgoetz: Well happy birthday | 06:17 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | thanks bddebian :) | 06:17 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | omfg. the laptop crashed launching xchat :( | 06:17 |
| Hobbsee | hey now, you *have* xchat, dont complain :P | 06:18 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | lol | 06:19 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | what do you think this is, some ubuntu default crap :P | 06:19 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 06:19 |
| === Birthday_kgoetz hugs Hobbsee | ||
| === Hobbsee hugs the invisbile person in return | ||
| Birthday_kgoetz | yay for mandarines and beer | 06:20 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | and Hobbsee :)O | 06:20 |
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| Birthday_kgoetz | imbrandon: ! | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | hiya imbrandon | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | is imbrandon visible? hmmm... | 06:20 |
| === Birthday_kgoetz needs to get his cloak fixed | ||
| imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 06:20 |
| imbrandon | hey Birthday_kgoetz | 06:20 |
| Hobbsee | indeed | 06:20 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | hi imbrandon :) | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | ooh! imbrandon is visible! | 06:21 |
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| Birthday_kgoetz | :( | 06:21 |
| Hobbsee | why isnt there some form of ksnapshot equivalent? | 06:21 |
| imbrandon | heh | 06:21 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | ksnapshot? | 06:21 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | printscreen? | 06:21 |
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| === Kamping_Kaiser huggles Hobbsee bddebian and imbrandon | ||
| === Hobbsee huggles the invisible one | ||
| === Birthday_kgoetz sighs. crashed again. | ||
| === Birthday_kgoetz needs to get a new sytesm... stabilty is an isseu :( | ||
| Hobbsee | bddebian: Kamping_Kaiser imbrandon http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6869/screenshot4su.png <-- why i'm having trouble. | 06:23 |
| === Birthday_kgoetz blames xgl 3rd party repo - my edgy sytem was more or less stable untill i turned on that 3rd party crap :( | ||
| imbrandon | whats that irssi ? | 06:24 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | whats the problem :) | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon: yeah, in xterm, on a dapper livecd | 06:24 |
| Hobbsee | Birthday_kgoetz: see the effects of white on light grey | 06:24 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | hehe | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | and tiny text | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | it's not so bad blazingly bright, at the right angle. | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | but right now, i'ts unreadable | 06:25 |
| imbrandon | umm thats just irssi config | 06:25 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | in xterm your on your own, i can only help in gnome-term | 06:25 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | :) | 06:25 |
| Hobbsee | rock! it'd be readable there! | 06:26 |
| Hobbsee | anyway, i'm going to sleep | 06:26 |
| imbrandon | gnight Hobbsee | 06:26 |
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| Birthday_kgoetz | shes gone :( | 06:26 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | :'( | 06:27 |
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| fbond | is the only thing currently broken in revu password recovery? | 06:37 |
| fbond | anyone know? | 06:37 |
| fbond | I see a lot of revu action, but I'm locked out, and have been for several days | 06:37 |
| fbond | I never bothered memorizing my password cause it was so easy to just recover it | 06:38 |
| imbrandon | see the last item in the topic | 06:41 |
| imbrandon | revu has been updated with LP intergration | 06:42 |
| zul | this is not good.."touch: setting times of `patch-stamp': Function not implemented | 07:03 |
| zul | edgy chroot | 07:03 |
| ogra | mount proc | 07:05 |
| zul | duh...thanks ogra | 07:05 |
| hub | what is the color difference in MOM output | 07:06 |
| hub | light green vs medium green? | 07:06 |
| sivang | so, grab a pbuilder, and the new set of Mom scripts, and start merging right? | 07:07 |
| === Birthday_kgoetz hugs hub and sivang | ||
| sivang | hey Birthday_kgoetz , happy birhtday :) | 07:08 |
| sivang | how do e co-ordinate who is working on which package? | 07:08 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | hi sivang :) | 07:08 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | whats mom? | 07:09 |
| hub | Birthday_kgoetz: my name is hub, not hug | 07:09 |
| hub | Birthday_kgoetz: MoM = Merge-o-Matic | 07:09 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | :S | 07:09 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | oh, lol | 07:09 |
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| Birthday_kgoetz | hi LaserJock :) | 07:22 |
| LaserJock | hi Birthday_kgoetz | 07:23 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | :) | 07:23 |
| LaserJock | wild guess here, but I'm getting the feeling it's somebody's birthday :-) | 07:24 |
| Birthday_kgoetz | LaserJock: :) what gave it away :) | 07:24 |
| hub | so if I resolve a merge from MoM, I'll just dput it to universe? | 07:27 |
| Toadstool | re | 07:28 |
| hub | do I need to apply to that: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members ? | 07:33 |
| LaserJock | hub: that's for people who want to upload to REVU | 07:34 |
| hub | ah right | 07:34 |
| hub | I"m already in Ubuntu-dev | 07:34 |
| LaserJock | yep, so i think you can just upload the merge | 07:36 |
| hub | I know I can upload to universe | 07:41 |
| hub | I was asking if that was the right thing | 07:41 |
| hub | I'll do it | 07:41 |
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| Tonio_ | hi all | 07:52 |
| _ion | Bono estente. | 07:52 |
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| bddebian | Heya Tonio_ | 07:59 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 08:00 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 08:00 |
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| highvoltage | hey bddebianisagod and LaserJock | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | hi highvoltage | 08:04 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: how are things? | 08:05 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: still sick, but got a driver's license | 08:05 |
| === bddebian kicks highvoltage ;-) | ||
| highvoltage | LaserJock: heh. i wish i could say that :) | 08:06 |
| === highvoltage limps around the channel | ||
| LaserJock | highvoltage: could say what? | 08:06 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I told you to stay away from those French hookers.. ;-P | 08:06 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: that i got my drivers' license! | 08:06 |
| highvoltage | bddebian: if only they could stay away from him, too! | 08:06 |
| bddebian | :-) | 08:07 |
| === highvoltage hopes that LaserJock's wife isn't reading | ||
| LaserJock | I'm talking to her on the phone | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | It's the stupid subway system | 08:08 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: I had a driver's license at 16, not having one is really bad for me | 08:08 |
| hub | I have 2 drivers license | 08:09 |
| hub | one European, one north american | 08:09 |
| LaserJock | still haven't gotten new credit and atm cards though, they should be arriving anyday | 08:09 |
| hub | LaserJock: what happened? | 08:10 |
| hub | you lost everything? | 08:10 |
| LaserJock | hub: yeah, pickpocketed on the Paris subway | 08:10 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: i have a learners, my biggest incentive for a license is so that i can buy a better car. at the moment it's an 1989 citi golf | 08:10 |
| hub | LaserJock: never happened to me | 08:10 |
| hub | LaserJock: and I have taken the subway for YEARS | 08:11 |
| highvoltage | hub: where do you live? | 08:11 |
| hub | highvoltage: Ottawa, Canada | 08:11 |
| hub | highvoltage: used to live in Paris' burb | 08:11 |
| hub | and Lille | 08:11 |
| LaserJock | highvoltage: I had to learn to drive early growing up on a ranch, I could drive decently well by the time I was 12 | 08:11 |
| highvoltage | wow. i only learned to drive when i was about 22. | 08:12 |
| highvoltage | (well, drive car, at least) | 08:12 |
| hub | I got my license at 19 | 08:12 |
| hub | in France the age is 18 anyway | 08:12 |
| highvoltage | 18 here too. | 08:13 |
| hub | you can drink before you can drive ;-) | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | well, I had to get a driver's license at 16 so I could drive myself to university ;-) | 08:13 |
| highvoltage | we can only drink from 18 too. and smoke. | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | smoke at 18, drink at 21 here | 08:14 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: wow. we seriously need more liberal laws here :) | 08:14 |
| hub | in France, they don't care | 08:14 |
| hub | anybody can buy smokes | 08:14 |
| hub | and bozze | 08:14 |
| Toadstool | I've seen kids smoking at 10 in France :( | 08:15 |
| bddebian | w00t | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | hub: well, that explains why Paris is so dirty ;) | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | lol | 08:15 |
| Toadstool | heh | 08:15 |
| highvoltage | i've seen kids smoking at 12 in cape town too, but at least they throw their cigarette buds in the bin when they're done ;) | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | but at least you go to Subway next to Notre Dame, Paris can't be all that bad | 08:16 |
| hub | highvoltage: compared to what? | 08:16 |
| Toadstool | LaserJock: as a tourist Paris is a nice town :) | 08:16 |
| highvoltage | hub: cape town, durban, london | 08:16 |
| LaserJock | Toadstool: if you keep you wallet ;-) | 08:17 |
| highvoltage | even jo'burg. | 08:17 |
| hub | only been to london | 08:17 |
| hub | not significantly cleaner | 08:17 |
| Toadstool | LaserJock: that's because the guy noticed you were a foreigner ^^ | 08:17 |
| hub | that's because I never put the wallet in the back pack or the back pocket of the jeans | 08:17 |
| hub | seriously | 08:17 |
| Toadstool | yeah | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | I put it in the front to be careful | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | london was cleaner than paris was now when i was there last year. | 08:18 |
| zul | heh when i was in nairobi some kids stole my dad's mirror from his car | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | at least london has signs "This is a high pick-pocket area" in certain areas :) | 08:18 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: You were an Evil American so you were a target ;-P | 08:18 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: of course :-) | 08:18 |
| Toadstool | tss :) | 08:18 |
| highvoltage | bddebian: which evil nationilty are you? | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | at least I had a great bunch of friends around :-) | 08:19 |
| highvoltage | LaserJock: :) | 08:19 |
| hub | highvoltage: they have the same announcement in paris subway... in French | 08:19 |
| bddebian | highvoltage: I am the most Evil of Americans :-) | 08:19 |
| hub | highvoltage: anyway. Rule #1 pickpockets are everywhere | 08:19 |
| highvoltage | hub: hehe | 08:19 |
| hub | rule #2: not seeing any, see rule #1 | 08:19 |
| LaserJock | anyway ... | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | everybody got there edgy pbuilders ready to go? | 08:21 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Sort of :-) | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | were we going to do a REVU day today? | 08:21 |
| hub | mine is working | 08:21 |
| LaserJock | I'm still trying to grab all the -updates and -security stuff on my Dapper box :( | 08:22 |
| Toadstool | mine is broken 'cause the local mirror doesn't have the latest cpio version... :( | 08:22 |
| fbond | whenever anyone has a second, I'd love to be approved as a universe contributor | 08:23 |
| LaserJock | fbond: did you join the LP team? | 08:23 |
| fbond | that's what I need approval on | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | as long as you have joined, then somebody will be around to approve it when they can | 08:24 |
| fbond | ok | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | they are notified by email when you join | 08:24 |
| LaserJock | I think siretart is the one that can approve | 08:26 |
| crimsun | beware that sudo, cpio, and binutils are all horked on Edgy currently | 08:27 |
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| chillywilly | ajmitch: what time is it there? | 08:27 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: I thought they were fixed recently (at least cpio) | 08:28 |
| bddebian | Heya chillywilly | 08:28 |
| chillywilly | hi | 08:28 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: the first two should be | 08:28 |
| crimsun | LaserJock: binutils bug only rears its head in stripping | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | ah | 08:29 |
| LaserJock | this release cycle is so short, I sure hope things like that can get ironed out soon | 08:30 |
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| hub | how often update MoM listing? | 08:47 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I almost have scilab-4.0 nailed, I think | 08:56 |
| crimsun | who's uploading merges with MoM still listed in the changelog? :) | 08:56 |
| bddebian | Not I | 08:56 |
| bddebian | OK, now I am really confused. I did a pubilder login --save-after-login, apt-get update, and exit | 08:58 |
| bddebian | And when I pbuilder build foo, it still can't find x11proto-gl-dev | 08:58 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: can you put your source package up somewhere? | 09:00 |
| bddebian | It's not mine | 09:00 |
| LaserJock | who's is it? | 09:01 |
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| bddebian | Hobbsee's | 09:02 |
| bddebian | But it works in her and imbrandon's pbuilders | 09:02 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: oh, then that's quite odd | 09:06 |
| bddebian | Aye | 09:07 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: you don't have x11proto-gl-dev in http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages ? | 09:34 |
| bddebian | crimsun: If I do an apt-get install from pbuilder login, it works fine | 09:34 |
| crimsun | ...but? | 09:35 |
| bddebian | pbuilder build doesn't get it | 09:35 |
| crimsun | got the source package posted? | 09:36 |
| crimsun | dsc would be fine for starters | 09:36 |
| bddebian | No, Hobbsee sent it to me via e-mail | 09:37 |
| bddebian | Though it might be on REVU by now | 09:37 |
| bddebian | ksudoku | 09:37 |
| crimsun | yeah, that is on revu | 09:37 |
| crimsun | got something funky in your pbuilder, perhaps? | 09:39 |
| bddebian | Aye but I can't figure out what.. | 09:41 |
| crimsun | and the pbuilder's up to date n' all? | 09:42 |
| sivang | hey slomo , 'sup? :) | 09:42 |
| bddebian | I did both a 'sudo pbuild-edgy update --override-config' and tried 'sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login' and apt-get update inside | 09:42 |
| bddebian | OK, dumb question. What is PREFIX vs. DESTDIR? | 09:56 |
| crimsun | prefix is the actual prefix of the path where file are installed | 09:57 |
| crimsun | normally, /usr | 09:57 |
| crimsun | destdir is the destination where compiled source is installed into | 09:57 |
| bddebian | Ah, hmm | 09:58 |
| bddebian | Man this stupid scilab package is making me feel more stupid than usual :-( | 09:58 |
| crimsun | so for Debian/Ubuntu packages, prefix is normally /usr, and destdir is normally $(pwd)/debian/$package | 09:58 |
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| bddebian | Well this is what Scientific Computing is doing for scilab.. $(MAKE) -e install PREFIX=$(CURDIR)/debian/scilab/usr DOCNAME=scilab | 09:59 |
| crimsun | so they're using PREFIX where packages normally use DESTDIR? | 10:02 |
| crimsun | can you post the Makefile? | 10:02 |
| bddebian | crimsun: According to Debian.readme, they specifically aren't touching the configuration files | 10:03 |
| bddebian | But they are using normal debhelper stuff, not cdbs | 10:04 |
| crimsun | right, but I would need to see the Makefile to understand its semantics | 10:04 |
| bddebian | Oh, sorry, hang on | 10:04 |
| crimsun | (well, its syntax but the semantics of the call) | 10:04 |
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| Spec | when is uds-paris? | 10:09 |
| LaserJock | it was last week | 10:10 |
| crimsun | it happened already | 10:10 |
| Spec | oh, cool | 10:10 |
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| LaserJock | which one? | 10:11 |
| Spec | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/auto-unmount-notifications | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | ah | 10:13 |
| bddebian | crimsun: will a makefile.in do? | 10:13 |
| crimsun | bddebian: erm, well, we'll see | 10:14 |
| bddebian | I guess I can make one | 10:14 |
| Spec | LaserJock: it's not a very impressive spec, but it should've been implemented since breezy ;p | 10:16 |
| crimsun | no, usability improvements are impressive regardless | 10:17 |
| crimsun | lots of small improvements win | 10:17 |
| crimsun | what is most annoying to me at the moment is that external storage via usb/firewire isn't unmounted pre-suspend-to-{ram,disk} | 10:18 |
| LaserJock | to me there seemed to be a lot of activity around usability and a11y in Paris | 10:23 |
| crimsun | as there should have been imnsho | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | I wish I could have gone to all the BOFs :-) | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | it was really hard picking and choosing | 10:24 |
| bddebian | Damn, apparently I REALLY don't understand cdbs :'-( | 10:35 |
| crimsun | there is simply too much inanity in #ubuntu atm | 10:35 |
| bddebian | crimsun: If you get a sec: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/scilab4/ | 10:43 |
| crimsun | I'm firewalled on 8000 | 10:43 |
| crimsun | pretty much firewalled on everything save 80, 22, and 21. | 10:43 |
| crimsun | (sec, I need to find another host) | 10:44 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: bummer, I feel your pain, although not quite that much | 10:44 |
| uniq | i can mirror for you if you want. | 10:50 |
| uniq | http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/scilab4/ | 10:51 |
| uniq | there you go. | 10:51 |
| bddebian | Nice | 10:52 |
| bddebian | crimsun: It seems like even with PREFIX set, it tries to create the $package dir under debian/tmp | 10:53 |
| crimsun | bddebian: right, so they're using PREFIX where DESTDIR normally is | 10:54 |
| crimsun | prefix/destdir a non-issue | 10:55 |
| crimsun | what dh_compat? | 10:55 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Yeah, the do weird crap like prefix=$PREFIX | 10:55 |
| crimsun | any .installs? | 10:55 |
| bddebian | 3 of them | 10:55 |
| bddebian | Compat 4 | 10:55 |
| crimsun | does debian/rules force it into debian/tmp/ ? | 10:55 |
| bddebian | I am trying to. Or do you mean theirs? scilab-3.0 cdbs did | 10:56 |
| crimsun | what do the .installs use? | 10:56 |
| crimsun | meaning scilab-4.0's | 10:56 |
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| bddebian | I know but the scicomputing package or mine? scicomputing only builds 1 binary | 10:56 |
| bddebian | They use debhelper | 10:56 |
| crimsun | whichever package you're having problems with | 10:57 |
| bddebian | Ah, mine has the following, witch is wrong: | 10:58 |
| bddebian | debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/X11_defaults/ | 10:58 |
| bddebian | debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/config/ | 10:58 |
| crimsun | (hi barry!) | 11:01 |
| bddebian | ? | 11:03 |
| bddebian | Did you mean what are the .install files? | 11:03 |
| bddebian | crimsun: Did I lose you? | 11:05 |
| crimsun | bddebian: yes | 11:07 |
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| bddebian | :-( | 11:08 |
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| crimsun | bddebian: the "yes" was in response to the .install | 11:11 |
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| bddebian | crimsun: Oh, sorry. scilab.install, scilab-doc.install, and scilab-bin.install | 11:13 |
| crimsun | bddebian: right, do those use tmp ? | 11:13 |
| bddebian | The first two lines of scilab.install is what I posted above | 11:14 |
| crimsun | nod, and fixing those results in...? | 11:14 |
| bddebian | What do you mean by "fixing" those? My package doesn't install in temp unless I hack that PREFIX= line | 11:15 |
| crimsun | source package would work best. Offline for 30 minutes. | 11:15 |
| bddebian | And even then it's screwed | 11:15 |
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| zul | hey | 11:32 |
| bddebian | Howdy | 11:32 |
| bddebian | crimsun: I have to head home. Thanks for your time and hopefully I can catch you later on.. | 11:33 |
| bddebian | Later folks | 11:33 |
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