[12:07] bddebian: hmm, no [12:08] interesting [12:09] I like how there are lots of little sites with Debian packages that nobody bother's to put in the archives [12:09] :-) [12:09] They built scilab with debhelper :-( [12:09] at least they are sane ;-) [12:09] Heh :-) [12:11] Oh well gotta head home, talk to you all later [12:11] cya bddebian [12:23] oh god, eye-stabbity sound fun === crimsun gets some coffee and prepares to get dirty === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar is now known as jaldhar [12:32] is it possible to get mplayer source package? [12:32] do you mean upstream upstream or the version we use? [12:32] the former is at www.mplayerhq.hu; the latter is ``apt-get source mplayer'' [12:32] well, I just need the debian/ folder [12:33] apt-get source doesn't work with mplayer [12:33] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/m/mplayer/mplayer_0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8.diff.gz [12:33] yes it does. [12:33] do you have the deb-src line for multiverse? [12:33] Hmm... maybe not === theCore hides [12:35] deb-src for multiverse was missing [12:35] thanks crimsun [12:35] np === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.32.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:03] is it save to dist-upgrade to edgy for dbus atm? [01:04] I wouldn't. [01:04] you /may/ be able to get away with using it in a chroot [01:05] so how about just using the dbus 0.62 from edgy in dapper? [01:08] morning [01:08] 'morning ajmitch [01:08] nexu: you have rope, of course you can hang yourself [01:08] nexu: why is 0.62 critical? [01:08] crimsun: x_X [01:08] crimsun: dev testing [01:08] crimsun: no its not critical [01:08] nexu: then use edgy in a chroot [01:09] k [01:09] or i might go copmile dbus 0.62 myself ... [01:10] sure, you're free to do whatever [01:10] just asking :> [01:11] yeah wait, i'll brb..gonna jump off a flat === chuck_ [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] hey === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:33] hi zul === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:34] morning jsgotangco [01:34] good morning ajmitch [01:35] hey ajmitch how is the land down under? [01:35] heh === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:crimsun] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [01:41] so much work... [01:42] quit complaining ;) === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:44] hehehe...someone said merge === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp112-65.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] probably not a good idea to use edgy's sudo [02:10] how broken is it today? [02:12] bug 51246 [02:12] Malone bug 51246 in sudo "1.6.8p12-4ubuntu1 update causes parse errors" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51246 [02:13] a good thing I enable root on my systems [02:18] there is a newer version. [02:18] (edgy)luke@marlon:~/Projects/Ubuntu_Development/edgy/sources/speech-dispatcher$ [02:18] apt-cache show sudo | grep Version [02:18] Version: 1.6.8p12-1ubuntu6 [02:18] No sorry, that is an older one. [02:18] thanks for the heads up. [02:19] hmm, this is interesting. Anybody know how to remove lines from a file without reading the whole thing? [02:20] sed [02:20] grep :P [02:20] don't you still have to read the whole file? [02:20] your question is phrased a bit strangely [02:20] quickest way to nuke blank lines is.... [02:20] crimsun: sorry [02:20] grep -v ^$ [02:21] got an email from my local LUG, a guy has a 2.3 GB file that he wants to remove the first 300 lines of [02:21] yikes [02:21] so he wants to remove the lines without having to deal with the rest of the file [02:22] that's possible with either head or tail I think [02:22] how many lines? [02:22] total? [02:22] not sure [02:22] lots I'm guessing [02:22] hrm [02:22] well, you can do it with tail [02:22] but you need to know the number of lines [02:22] that would write out everything, no? [02:22] run wc on it :-) [02:22] tail -n (number of lines infile - 300) >> newfile [02:22] wait [02:23] the first thing he tried was sed '1,300d' [02:23] I think he wants to evade the "newfile" [02:23] tail -n (number of lines in file - 300) filename > filename [02:23] there you go [02:23] ick [02:23] isn't that going to read the file into memory? [02:23] tail +301 foo [02:23] Kyral: that still writes stuff, no? [02:23] no [02:23] well, TECHNICALLY [02:24] but it clobbers the file with itself :P [02:24] > clobbers whatever the target is, >> appends :P [02:24] well, "write stuff" as in shove 2GB in memory and later back on disk [02:24] so how can u move the file pointer 300 lines down? [02:24] dunno [02:24] oh I KNOW! [02:24] I know you can do it with a c program [02:24] vim [02:24] you don't need wc, just use tail by itself [02:24] so there has to be a *nix utility to do it [02:24] then in vim [02:24] Kyral: dude [02:24] 300dd :P [02:25] I think a small C program should be easiest [02:25] you'd still need to load it into memory doncha? [02:25] no === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:25] Kyral: no [02:25] You just move the file pointer down [02:25] heh, been a while since I messed with C++ File I/O [02:26] and I was never good at it in the first place [02:26] Ruby FTW :P === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:31] LaserJock: you could use perl :) [02:32] somebody suggested: [02:33] BYTES=$(head -300 nameofbigfile.txt | wc -c) [02:33] dd if=nameofbigfile.txt of=truncatedversion.pl ibs=$BYTES skip=1 === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] has anyone decided the process for requesting syncs? open a bug and subscribe the archive team? [02:47] that's what I've been doing, and the ones I've opened have been processed within a couple hours of my filing them [02:48] are you addind build logs and such or just requesting the sync? [02:48] I've titled all mine: "[Edgy MoM] Please sync foobar version-# from Debian Sid" [02:49] in the bug report I've linked to REPORT and underneath it said "Ok to override Ubuntu change{,s}" [02:49] ok, thanks crimsun [02:50] I keep a browser tab open to the june '06 edgy-changes, and it refreshes every 3 minutes [02:50] what is the URL for that? [02:50] that way I can Find before I ../grab-merge.sh [02:50] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/edgy-changes/2006-June/thread.html [02:50] crimsun: how does that script work... [02:51] zul: grab-merge.sh basically wgets [02:51] yeah i know that part but what arguments does it take? [02:52] source package name [02:52] ah ok...so something like grab-merge.sh abuse-sdl right? [02:53] zul: yup, except I'm working that one ;) [02:53] bmonty: er that was an example [02:53] zul: ok, just wanted to make sure we don't duplicate any effort [02:54] yeah, bmonty and I have history of toe-stomping ;) [02:55] crimsun: :) [02:55] for the record I'm going to work the package that have my name next to them in the universe list [02:55] yeah, that's what I'm doing [02:55] good idea [02:56] (except I'm taking bzflag atm) === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:05] What does one do with the changelog if the only conflicting files are config.sub and config.guess? [03:06] Do we change the MOM entry to one of our own? [03:06] TheMuso: request a sync [03:06] you would want to override the ubuntu package with the version from debian [03:07] Ah but the package I am working on has ubuntu-specific changes. A sync is not the right thing to do in this instance. [03:07] But the only conflicts are those I mentioned. [03:08] get the latest debian version, add the ubuntu changes, include the ubuntu changelog entries in the new version [03:08] and the changelog entry could be something like "Resynchronize with Debian." [03:09] changelog entry for the new version that is [03:09] Ok. [03:12] TheMuso: but make sure to include old Ubuntu changelog entries [03:13] LaserJock: Yeah I know. Mom has done all of that for me, except the config.* changes, which are moot anyway. [03:14] hmmm...I wonder if MoM could be configured to ignore bootstrap files? === snb [i=snb@unyew.silverninja.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:28] doh, I just made a mistake :( [03:28] forgot to use the -v option on dpkg-genchanges [03:28] doh [03:31] hmm, you're not using the merge-genchanges? [03:31] (I don't, but I pass its contents to debuild) [03:33] I'm not using merge-genchanges...where do I get it? [03:33] it'll be in ../ [03:33] that is, one level above the extracted source [03:33] ok, I see it === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:42] Heya gang [03:42] hi bddebian [03:42] Hi bmonty [03:45] TheMuso: ping [03:45] hmm ok. Looks like the grab-merge.sh script can't handle versions with a : in them. [03:45] zul: pong [03:46] TheMuso: new grub has beep support [03:46] Cool. [03:46] Grub 2 you mean? [03:46] nope grub1 [03:46] er...for edgy [03:46] TheMuso: yeah, I had the problem also [03:50] looks like it just needs to be escaped [03:50] just ping keybuk about it tomorrow [03:52] I guess I should do some merges before bddebian does them all [03:53] pfft [03:53] love finding merge candidates that are really syncable [03:59] If there is install/foo:: in a cdbs rules, is that just for $package foo? [04:01] I still don't understand how the hell scilab-3.0 builds and 4.0 seems to install completely differently [04:02] this control file is totally screwed [04:03] package A depends on package B, and package B has it on the conflicts line and conflicts itself [04:03] the conflicts aren't versioned? [04:03] nope [04:04] bddebian: yes, just for foo [04:04] bmonty: Nice [04:05] crimsun: Then how the f**k is scilab-3.0 building === bddebian is getting very confused [04:06] that's usually a sign to move on to another package and come back to it after a space [04:06] is it policy for a package with python2.3-foo and python2.4-foo to conflict each other [04:07] crimsun: If that is the case then cdbs will build in debian/foo/ right? [04:07] bddebian: given an adequately high dh_compat, yes [04:07] 4? [04:07] yes, it should [04:08] Then why the hell do the .install files look like this: ? [04:08] debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/X11_defaults/ [04:08] debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/config/ [04:08] debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/contrib/ [04:09] Of course now that I look at it, I'm not quite sure why it's broken into three binaries anyway [04:11] the install files be broke [04:11] anyhoo [04:12] back in 90 mins [04:12] crimsun: We're timing you, not a minute late you hear! [04:12] Heh [04:25] If anyone would care to take a look at http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2524 it would be much appreciated. [04:28] shawarma, hey its nearly 4:30 what are you still doing here ? [04:30] same for you ogra :P [04:30] :P [04:30] i have an excuse, i had a meeting with debian ltsp :P [04:30] heh [04:31] no, actually i was planning to be in bed 2h ago :) [04:31] sounds like it went well... [04:31] yup [04:32] shawarma, at a first glance through my tired eyes the packaging looks fien [04:32] *fine too [04:32] Fuuuuck [04:33] no thanks [04:34] Ah Mr. Knowitall, you want to help me with this? :0) [04:36] ogra: I've got another exam tomorrow that I'm trying to prepare for. [04:37] ogra: Somehow packaging random software seems more appealing. :-) [04:38] ogra: For some odd reason I never manage to get any sleep before any of my exams. I always stay up *all* night preparing for them. [04:51] good night everyone [04:51] bmonty: G'night. === ctd [i=ctd@incubus.progsoc.uts.edu.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Rotund [n=joe@d25-72.rb.lax.centurytel.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sevrin [n=sevrin@202.75.186.154] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === damned [n=vpol@damned.vpol.org.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:31] anyone know how I can have a certain script/command executed when I power up a laptop that was hibernated via gnome-power-manager? === dsas [n=dean@host217-42-227-17.range217-42.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.177.234] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:47] chillywilly, might have better luck asking in #ubuntu ( as this is the packagers chan ) === GreyStar [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === n3xu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === robitaille_ [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp112-65.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === damned [n=vpol@prior.lanck.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.210.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:15] 'morning [08:15] hi Toadstool [08:15] hey Hobbsee === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TomaszD [n=tom@xdsl-2196.elblag.dialog.net.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] when using pbuilder I'm getting the following error: I/O error : Attempt to load network entity http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd [09:31] and ideas? [09:31] happens periodically, just retry [09:31] I have been for the last 8 hours or so [09:32] does it load for you in a Web browser? (it does here) [09:32] yes [09:33] hmm. [09:33] you might be able to get away with using --nonet [09:34] that is, presuming you have docbook as a build-dep [09:35] hmm [09:35] docbook2x, yeah [09:36] ah, you may need docbook-xml then [09:36] since docbook-xml is only a Recommends for docbook2x [09:38] hmm, never needed it before [09:41] I dunno beyond that, sorry === rob tries it === AnAnt [n=anant@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:45f] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:43] lionelp: u there ? [09:43] yep [09:44] lionelp: thanks for your comments on vim [09:44] oh, you're welcome :) [09:44] lionelp: I need to understand few stuff though [09:44] lionelp: where can I get the release that's in edgy ? (I did enable dapper-backports) [09:45] search vim on http://package.ubuntu.com with edgy release [09:45] lionelp: does that mean that I have to do update in pbuilder ? as I am always building for dapper [09:45] you will find it [09:45] k [09:45] that edgy release won't work for dapper I guess, right ? [09:46] different toolchain. It may not work. [09:47] ic [09:47] crimsun: errr, that answer was for which question ? [09:48] < AnAnt> that edgy release won't work for dapper I guess, right ? [09:48] crimsun: ok, thanks [09:48] lionelp: you said "release should be set to edgy, not expermental". does that mean that I have to do update in pbuilder ? as I am always building for dapper [09:49] lionelp: btw, I left that 'release' as is from the Debian repos [09:49] If you plan to build package for REVU, you should update you pbuilder to dapper yes [09:50] AnAnt: I understand, but we are talking for packages in Ubuntu, not Debian. So we use Ubuntu release, not Debian [09:50] lionelp: you mean update to edgy ? [09:50] Don't you want an edgy pbuilder? [09:50] your pbuilder yes [09:50] not necessary your complete machine [09:52] lionelp: what if I left pbuilder at dapper (ie. didn't update it to edgy), that won't be correct ? [09:52] lionelp: the thing is I build packages so that they would also work for my dapper === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:52] you can build your package for dapper ever if your changelog is for edgy [09:52] but that alose means that you will not do a complete check [09:53] also [09:53] ic [09:54] you can have several pbuilder [09:54] lionelp: let me make sure I understand correctly. So I don't have to update my pbuilder to edgy, but in the changelog I should put the word edgy instead of 'unstable' or 'experimental', right ? [09:54] right [09:55] in that case, your source package will be correct [09:55] ok [09:55] thanks === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:57] lionelp: should I put ubuntuX in version the release ? or that does not matter ? [09:58] you mean the package version number or the Ubuntu release ? [09:58] huh? [09:58] for ubuntu release in changelog, you only use codename ("dapper", "edgy") [09:59] like ubuntu0 or ubuntu1 , in version yes [09:59] is that a must or optional? [09:59] it is a must as it is a build for Ubuntu [09:59] k [09:59] you should add "ubuntu1" at the end of the Debian package rebuild [10:00] (and if you do another package version ubuntu2, etc.) [10:00] btw, I thought REVU was for both Ubuntu & Debian, or am I wrong ? [10:00] no, it is only for Ubuntu [10:00] ok [10:00] thanks a lot [10:01] was there a problem with REVU yesterday ? [10:01] nothing that I uploaded yesterday is there [10:01] AnAnt: you need to be a part of the REVU maintainer group to be able to upload [10:01] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members [10:02] Hobbsee: well I am I guess, because I did upload stuff before [10:03] AnAnt: it is quite new [10:04] lionelp: new ? [10:04] before, you did not have to be a member of ubuntu-universe-contributors to upload in revu [10:05] oh [10:05] new system [10:05] anyone know what libhamlib-dev got replaced by? [10:06] so, how to be member? [10:06] AnAnt: join it, and wait for approval [10:06] ok [10:06] thanks [10:06] Hobbsee: hamlib-dev ? [10:07] now, I am mixed up, what is this channel for & what is #launchpad for ? [10:07] crimsun: b-d is libhamlib-dev [10:07] crimsun: where does hamlib-dev exist? [10:08] Hobbsee: libhamlib-dev is only valid in Debian testing/unstable (and thus Ubuntu Edgy) [10:09] crimsun: yes, so why cant my edgy pbuilder find it? [10:09] Hobbsee: libhamlib* actually replaces hamlib* [10:09] Hobbsee: because hamlib 1.2.5-6 hasn't been synced yet. [10:10] crimsun: right, so i just ignore this package until it has been synced? [10:10] Hobbsee: right [10:10] AnAnt: this channel is for contributing to the Universe repository of Ubuntu [10:10] Hobbsee: ...or file a sync request for hamlib [10:10] Hobbsee: which you shouldn't need to do, since it'll be synced automatically [10:10] yeah [10:10] #launchpad is for talking of launchpad the collaborative tool that Ubuntu used to manage the distro [10:11] oh [10:12] somebody has a script to file a "request sync" bug ? [10:15] morning all! === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-26-28.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] morning sivang! [10:22] Hobbsee: ok, so I am now registered, I can upload using dput now ? [10:22] AnAnt: have they approved you yet? [10:22] Hobbsee: they ? [10:22] Hobbsee: Registration completed successfully [10:23] Hobbsee: that's what I got [10:23] AnAnt: yes, but there's a difference between registration and approval [10:23] Hobbsee: also I got that I am "not an active member of any Launchpad teams." [10:23] Hobbsee: how do I know about approval ? [10:24] AnAnt: what's your launchpad page? [10:24] https://launchpad.net/people/aelmahmoudy [10:26] raphink: ping? [10:26] pong? [10:26] what's wrong? [10:26] that rhymes [10:27] hehe [10:27] crimsun: ping [10:28] raphink: can AnAnt get approval to the REVU group? [10:29] haven't seen a request [10:29] raphink: apparently he just joined [10:29] havent received anything [10:29] let me have a look [10:29] raphink: could you please review my first ubuntu package? [10:30] anibal: haven't got time for that now [10:30] AnAnt: please request addition to the group, then i'll approve you === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] raphink: where's that ? [10:31] AnAnt: add a GnuPG key to your LP account prior to do that, too === StevenK wonders where MoM lives now. [10:31] What is the revu launchpad team for? [10:31] AnAnt: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [10:31] TheMuso: getting upload rights to REVU [10:31] ic [10:31] Um ok. I thought that wasn't needed. [10:31] raphink: what do I need to get into REVU? [10:33] anibal: get approval to join https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members [10:33] get the page about how to join REVU basically [10:33] anibal: same question as AnAnt, same answer : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU [10:33] get to read* [10:34] so I don't feel like I write doc for nothing ;) === nexu read them [10:34] :) [10:34] I did join REVU long time ago [10:34] but it seems that system changed or so [10:35] AnAnt: it changed last week [10:35] ;) [10:35] REVU is heading towards LP integration [10:35] raphink: that's got nothing about the recent launchpad team that you have to be added to, to upload, that i can see [10:36] raphink: (thank goodness for that!) [10:36] Hobbsee: I'm not sure to understand your sentence [10:36] but if I understood it, my answer is : "you don't need to be added to the team if you're already on REVU" [10:36] but new REVU uploaders need to [10:36] I'm on both :) [10:36] raphink: now you have to join the group at https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members to upload - that doenst seem to be in that revu page [10:37] raphink: ok, I requested to join universe team now [10:37] Hobbsee: I updated the page though :s [10:37] and imported my gpg key in launchpad too [10:37] Hobbsee: please read the page again, carefuly ;) [10:38] raphink: can you give me a section of text you're referring to - i cant see it [10:38] It is not necessary to GetYourKeySigned, but it is a good idea anyway. In order to upload to REVU, you will need to be added to the REVU keyring. Be sure that you have a [WWW] Launchpad account and that you have added your GPGKey to it. Then ask to [WWW] be added to the Ubuntu Universe Contributors team. One of the REVU admins will add you then to the group (== Upload rights for REVU). You don't need a password to upload packages, only to log [10:38] . [10:38] raphink: ah right [10:39] I fixed it last week [10:39] :p [10:40] ok added new members === ..[topic/#ubuntu-motu:Hobbsee] : Ubuntu Masters of the Universe: Ubuntu Universe Repository Maintainers | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Documentation | Focus on http://tinyurl.com/nl87h (MOTU bugs) and http://tinyurl.com/rjcqu (UNMETDEPS) and http://tinyurl.com/kbxpe (mysqlclient) | http://tinyurl.com/pghsw (motureviewers) | [Edgy MoM] https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html | Add yourself to http://tinyurl.com/fgpgy to upload to REVU [10:41] raphink: thanks, so now I can use dput as I used to do before ? === doko [n=doko@dslb-088-073-092-078.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] raphink: ran revu-key update on tiber? [10:41] it takes a little while === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:42] ajmitch_: it's running right now [10:42] yes it takes some time === ajmitch didn't want to run it while you were doing so :) [10:43] :) [10:43] update done [10:44] ok, I have a question, when I make a new version of a software, it doesn't create a .orig tarball, is that correct ? [10:45] hi \sh [10:47] hmmm, didn't upload still ?! [10:47] AnAnt: I believe that the upstream .orig file shouldn't have changed so there's no need for a new one. [10:48] dsas: it did change, what I meant, is that it doesn't call the original tarball .orig [10:49] dsas: it called it freedict_1.4-1ubuntu0.tar.gz [10:49] AnAnt: it shouldn't be creating a tarball at all [10:49] without .orig [10:49] you must make the .orig.tar.gz by renaming the upstream tarball [10:50] hey \sh [10:50] <\sh> moins [10:51] welcome back ajmitch [10:52] for a few minutes, at least === imbrandon_edgy [n=brandon@CPE-72-135-8-5.kc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:01] ajmitch: ok, the thing is this, there was freedict-1.3, I added another dictionary to it, hence I thought I would bump the version to 1.4, is that ok so far ? [11:06] ajmitch: hence, I renamed the source directory to freedict-1.4 === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@ppp112-65.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK wonders how one takes ownership of a merge/sync. [11:08] File a bug in LP, as per usual? [11:16] ok, fixed it [11:18] btw, I still can't upload anything [11:19] although I am now a contributor in universe [11:19] dput doesn't give me a problem === paniq [n=braniq@213.83.35.136] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4 [n=freeflyi@221.221.163.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] Are people grabbing onto merges/syncs? [12:10] yes [12:10] grab some [12:10] How are we declaring ownership? === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4_ [n=freeflyi@221.221.149.6] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mode/#ubuntu-motu [+o rjls] by ChanServ === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jtshaw [n=jtshaw@65.5.3.112] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:50] btw, I still can't upload anything, although I am now a contributor in ubuntu universe. Although dput is not giving any errors, but I see nothing that I have uploaded today on REVU. Can anyone help ? [12:51] what have you uploaded, and with what version? [12:55] bitlbee-1.0.3 [12:55] what u mean, what version ? [12:55] the exact version [12:56] as given in debian/changelog === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:57] bitlbee (1.0.3-1ubuntu0) edgy [12:58] err [12:58] should be 1.0.3-0ubuntu1 [12:58] and you didn't put your gpg key on launchpad [12:58] so there's nothing for the keyring update script to grab [12:58] why ubuntu1 ? [12:58] ajmitch: I did [12:59] oh, that was a ssh key [12:59] AnAnt: it's not listed on your launchpad page [12:59] sorry === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.32.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:01] what is the keyserver ? [01:02] just use the openpgpkeys link on the left [01:02] the key should be on any of the common keyservers [01:04] oh ok, done [01:04] waiting for the email, thanks === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@AC91CDFD.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying-g4__ [n=freeflyi@221.221.158.18] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jason [n=jasonr@AC865149.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-238-78.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:54] ok, I put my PGP key, and tried to upload again, now dput gives me error 553 [01:55] because the files are already there [01:55] and the key isn't synced across yet [01:57] oh [01:57] ajmitch: umm, how do I know if it is synced or not [01:58] you would have had to ask one of us [01:58] ajmitch: you mean, that after the key is synced, the files I uploaded (before putting the key) will be on REVU ? [01:59] no [01:59] well [01:59] the files are still there [01:59] I'll remove them, and you can upload again [01:59] btw, you should not change the upstream version of freedict just because you made a change to it, unless you are upstream yourself [02:00] oic [02:00] k [02:00] I did issue dcut command [02:00] that's like adding a patch to firefox & calling it firefox 1.6 [02:00] dcut doesn't work for revu [02:01] oh === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FliesLikeABrick [n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-161.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === yvesC [n=yves@zenobi.ycombe.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:16] hey [02:16] hi zul [02:16] hey ajmitch how goes it? [02:16] alright, you? [02:17] good just having breakfast [02:17] hi. === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] I would see pysycache in universe. http://pysycache.org/ . It's software for 3-6 kids, mouse-based amusement. [02:18] pygame based. [02:19] ajmitch: thanks, I am uploading now [02:23] ajmitch: as for freedict, when I add the new dictionary, I get this problem in dpkg-buildpackage "dpkg-source: cannot represent change to ara-eng-20041030.tar.gz: binary file contents changed" [02:24] which is why you can't add in binary files like that, but have to do workarounds like with uuencode, etc === StevenK waves. [02:25] oh [02:25] Wahh. [02:25] It's been that long since I merged and synced that I've lost all my clues. [02:27] StevenK: yeah. if you are out of the loop for even a couple of weeks, it can sometimes take a while to catch up. [02:28] hi StevenK === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:32] Hello MOTU world [02:34] Hey Gloubiboulga [02:34] hello TheMuso :) === StevenK ponders how to debug a failing test in a build. [02:36] While watching xemacs21 build. [02:36] My poor amd64. xemacs21 is a bitch to build. [02:37] heh [02:37] peddle faster! === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-27-15.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:38] I'm already peddling at 2.8GHz [02:43] siretart: ping [02:44] lfittl: yes? [02:44] hi siretart [02:44] siretart: could you approve my membership for the ubuntu-universe-contributors team, so I can upload to revu again? === ajmitch approved [02:45] siretart: I'll sync keys again [02:45] ajmitch: thanks :) [02:45] since it was still in the history of another shell === jojopaderes_ [n=jojo@203.177.210.4] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === encolpe [n=encolpe@cha51-1-82-236-162-122.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === encolpe [n=encolpe@cha51-1-82-236-162-122.fbx.proxad.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:15] is there an edgy chroot on tiber? [03:15] edgy pbuilder* [03:19] not yet I think [03:19] thanks raphink, et salut ;) [03:20] non y'a pas je confirme [03:20] il faudrait en faire un [03:20] <\sh> salut:) [03:20] guten tag \sh [03:21] hi \h [03:21] <\sh> ok...let's wait until 800GB are formatted with ext3 *boring* [03:21] <\sh> just FA Installing an ubuntu 6.06 server :) [03:21] hi \sh [03:22] & raphink & Gloubiboulga [03:22] <\sh> huhu raphink, Gloubiboulga, Hobbsee, and all the rest of the motu crew :=) [03:22] hello Hobbsee [03:22] ) === StevenK jumps on Hobbsee. === Hobbsee splats on the ground. === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra brings a shovel [03:25] thanks ogra === Hobbsee is shoveled into a little ball of hobbsee goo. [03:25] heh === Mithrandir shakes Hobbsee a little so she gets back her usual form. ;-P [03:26] heh === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee remains as hobbsee goo. [03:26] hm, hobbsee jam [03:28] hehh === jojopaderes [n=jojo@203.177.173.99] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:32] im having some trouble uploading to revu is this the place to ask? [03:32] chipmonk010: when was your last successful update ? [03:32] this is the first one [03:33] chipmonk010: are you part of the REVU group in launchpad? see the topic [03:33] yes was just added a few minutes ago [03:34] i tried uploading yesterday and the upload froze now im getting Error '553 Could not create file.' [03:36] i tried using dcut to remove the partially uploaded file *.dsc but no luck [03:36] because dcut can't be used on revu [03:36] and you need to ask an admin [03:36] i think you'll probably need a revu admin to remove the partially uploaded .dsc file? [03:37] ajmitch is volunteering :P === ajmitch sighs [03:37] lol [03:37] Oh, damn. === StevenK wonders if dcut works for upload.u.c [03:38] you know you want to ajmitch [03:38] I already did it [03:38] oh good [03:38] Don't pressure the poor bloke, come on guys. [03:38] I ought to run merge-genchanges [03:38] TheMuso: :P whyever not? [03:38] thanks guys [03:38] Maybe because he might have other things to do? [03:38] TheMuso: what, like sleep? [03:38] nah...it's not even midnight yet. [03:39] :P [03:39] StevenK: merge-genchanges is part of dpkg? [03:40] sivang: No, MoM's grab-merge.sh generates it. [03:41] StevenK: how bad was your upload of xemacs21? [03:41] StevenK: hmm, I should finally go and read Scott's email about edgy MOM [03:41] oh before i upload again, my package is a fix for the mythv package already in the repos, is revu for new packages only? [03:41] ajmitch: I should have run merge-genchanges, and didn't. [03:42] StevenK: which means? [03:42] yo [03:43] ajmitch: The .changes file contained only my changes, not every change since the last version in edgy. [03:43] So where are you guys putting your merged packages for those who aren't MOTUs yet? [03:43] chipmonk010: no, you can upload there === BentBriar [n=BentBria@65.223.207.194] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] TheMuso: revu [03:43] ah ok [03:43] StevenK: so that only matters for what's on the changes list [03:43] it's not going to be a bad upload [03:43] sure, some people will yell at you & all [03:43] Well, it's my first upload. [03:44] And I'm a pedantic bastard. [03:44] Hobbsee: ok cool thanks again === TheMuso ponders getting a snack before the meeting... [03:51] TheMuso: you've just got time === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:54] Yeah I know. === AnAnt [n=anant@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:45f] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === slackern [n=slackern@81cm72.cable.soderhamn-net.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host36-99.pool8257.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] could somebody review and upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2539 for me? (just a new upstream version, no new package) === Bambi_BOFH [n=kgoetz@ppp222-124.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shenki [n=shenki@ppp147-73.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:27] lfittl, I'm having a look [04:27] :) [04:27] i successfully uploaded a package to revu but i cant see it at http://revu.tauware.de/ nor can i recover my passwd does ne one know could i have to do something more the dput? === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-238-78.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] chipmonk010: the package takes approx. 5 min after your upload until it shows up [04:31] its been like 45mins still nothin [04:32] chipmonk010: then ask one of the revu admins about it === freeflying-g4__ [n=freeflyi@221.221.145.127] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] chipmonk010: what's your login for launchpad? [04:39] Hobbsee: "chipmonk010" [04:39] chipmonk010: join this team: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members [04:39] re [04:40] heya Toadstool [04:40] Hobbsee: im already a member [04:40] hey Hobbsee [04:40] chipmonk010: is this your upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2541 ? [04:40] chipmonk010: oh yeah. sorry - thought it was sorted by alphabetical order [04:41] yes thats it! thanks [04:41] np ;) [04:44] Hobbsee: did u do something or did it just show up? [04:44] chipmonk010: i didnt do anything to it [04:45] Hobbsee: strange oh well thanks neway [04:50] lfittl, some files are missing in you packages, but maybe it's an upstream problem (investigating) [04:50] Gloubiboulga: which files do you mean? [04:50] Gloubiboulga: I am also part of upstream, so I can fix this too [04:50] libloki.so.0 for example [04:51] what file should that be? [04:51] which should be a link to libloki.so.0.1.5 [04:51] whats the reason to have this link? [04:51] it gives you the soname [04:52] 0 [04:52] the soname is the full version, since every release changes the ABI [04:53] hmm === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:03] shawarma: ping [05:05] Gloubiboulga: what are the other files that you think are missing? [05:06] lfittl, only this one actually === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-238-78.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] Gloubiboulga: do you think there is something wrong about the soname? [05:08] lfittl, not really _wrong_ but usually you find soname like .0 or .0.x, but I've never seen a so.0.1.5 [05:08] actually, I've seen it once, but it's been changed :) [05:09] if the ABI changes in a new release, you just have to switch from .0 to .1, that's not a problem I guess [05:09] but I'm not good enough about that to tell you "that's the way it works" [05:10] maybe someone else could confirm (or not ;) ) [05:10] then lets ask, anybody here who has enough experience with sonames to help us out? === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [05:12] : tfheen@xoog ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 | grep SON SONAME libssl.so.0.9.7 [05:13] bah [05:13] : tfheen@xoog ~ > objdump -x /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.7 | grep SON [05:13] SONAME libssl.so.0.9.7 [05:13] so they cerrtainly exist. [05:13] ok... [05:13] certainly, even === Gloubiboulga shuts up now [05:14] Gloubiboulga: could you upload it then? :) === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] hey bddebian! [05:16] Hi Hobbsee [05:16] Heya gang [05:18] lfittl, yep, sorry for the noise [05:18] hi bddebian [05:19] no problem ;) === Spec[x] [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:20] Hi Gloubiboulga === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has joined #ubuntu-motu === vud1 [n=vud1@unaffilitated/vud1] has left #ubuntu-motu ["chapo] [05:26] Gloubiboulga: thanks [05:27] lfittl, thanks you ;) [05:27] s/thanks/thank === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-7-90.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:49] I'm thinking of making a package that would add a menu entry to OpenOffice.org (it'd add Help > User Guide). Are there any problems with changing OOo menus? [05:50] I mean... would it get rejected on that basis? === ubuntu_ [n=ubuntu@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:02] BOO! [06:02] ahh [06:02] lol. === Hobbsee doesnt understand why teh fonts are quite so small. [06:05] they arnte very big :) [06:05] no, but why are the defaults so small? [06:05] i think someone needs to do some DPI work with edgy [06:05] some funny kde reason probalby :) [06:05] Birthday_Kaiser: this is gnome [06:05] Hobbsee, :o [06:06] its your comjpute :P [06:06] ;P [06:06] indeed [06:06] lol [06:06] this is a live cd === Birthday_Kaiser huggles Hobbsee === Hobbsee huggles Birthday_Kaiser [06:06] yay === Birthday_Kaiser huggles bddebian === Hobbsee wants to configure xterm BLACK! [06:06] you dont have xterm :OP{ [06:06] white on light grey does not work. [06:06] sure i do, that's what i'm chatting from [06:07] no, your using gnome-terminal [06:07] i started xterm specifically === Birthday_Kaiser didnt think xterm was on the live cd [06:08] Birthday_Kaiser: seems to be,j ust hidden [06:08] Hobbsee, hehe. like the ohter 1200 apps ;) [06:11] Heya Birthday_Kaiser === Hobbsee pokes and prods bddebian === Birthday_kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:13] hey bddebian :) [06:13] Hobbsee: ? === Birthday_kgoetz just crashed.... [06:14] bddebian: no apparent reason why [06:14] i keep crashing ;'( [06:14] Hobbsee: OK :) [06:14] Birthday_Kaiser: So is it your birthday? [06:15] bddebian: yep :) for 24 hours :) === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-232-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beezly [n=andy@terrapin.shef.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] bddebian: i'm 20 today :), the sad thjin is i have spend teh last 2 hours hugging people online ;) [06:17] Egads, I could be your father :) === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:17] Birthday_kgoetz: Well happy birthday [06:17] thanks bddebian :) [06:17] omfg. the laptop crashed launching xchat :( [06:18] hey now, you *have* xchat, dont complain :P [06:19] lol [06:19] what do you think this is, some ubuntu default crap :P [06:19] hehe === Birthday_kgoetz hugs Hobbsee === Hobbsee hugs the invisbile person in return [06:20] yay for mandarines and beer [06:20] and Hobbsee :)O === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:20] imbrandon: ! [06:20] hiya imbrandon [06:20] is imbrandon visible? hmmm... === Birthday_kgoetz needs to get his cloak fixed [06:20] heya Hobbsee [06:20] hey Birthday_kgoetz [06:20] indeed [06:21] hi imbrandon :) [06:21] ooh! imbrandon is visible! === Hobbsee kicks gnome [06:21] :( [06:21] why isnt there some form of ksnapshot equivalent? [06:21] heh [06:21] ksnapshot? [06:21] printscreen? === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser huggles Hobbsee bddebian and imbrandon === Hobbsee huggles the invisible one === Birthday_kgoetz sighs. crashed again. === Birthday_kgoetz needs to get a new sytesm... stabilty is an isseu :( [06:23] bddebian: Kamping_Kaiser imbrandon http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6869/screenshot4su.png <-- why i'm having trouble. === Birthday_kgoetz blames xgl 3rd party repo - my edgy sytem was more or less stable untill i turned on that 3rd party crap :( [06:24] whats that irssi ? [06:24] whats the problem :) [06:24] imbrandon: yeah, in xterm, on a dapper livecd [06:24] Birthday_kgoetz: see the effects of white on light grey [06:25] hehe [06:25] and tiny text [06:25] it's not so bad blazingly bright, at the right angle. [06:25] but right now, i'ts unreadable [06:25] umm thats just irssi config [06:25] in xterm your on your own, i can only help in gnome-term [06:25] :) [06:26] rock! it'd be readable there! [06:26] anyway, i'm going to sleep [06:26] gnight Hobbsee === Hobbsee [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:26] shes gone :( [06:27] :'( === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === damned [n=vpol@damned.vpol.org.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:37] is the only thing currently broken in revu password recovery? [06:37] anyone know? [06:37] I see a lot of revu action, but I'm locked out, and have been for several days [06:38] I never bothered memorizing my password cause it was so easy to just recover it [06:41] see the last item in the topic [06:42] revu has been updated with LP intergration [07:03] this is not good.."touch: setting times of `patch-stamp': Function not implemented [07:03] edgy chroot [07:05] mount proc [07:05] duh...thanks ogra [07:06] what is the color difference in MOM output [07:06] light green vs medium green? [07:07] so, grab a pbuilder, and the new set of Mom scripts, and start merging right? === Birthday_kgoetz hugs hub and sivang [07:08] hey Birthday_kgoetz , happy birhtday :) [07:08] how do e co-ordinate who is working on which package? [07:08] hi sivang :) [07:09] whats mom? [07:09] Birthday_kgoetz: my name is hub, not hug [07:09] Birthday_kgoetz: MoM = Merge-o-Matic [07:09] :S [07:09] oh, lol === highvoltage [n=jono@mtngprs7.mtn.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Birthday_kgoetz genrates random affection === zul does an evil laugh === fredix [n=fredix@ip-189.net-81-220-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub updates his pbuilder === Birthday_kgoetz looks at sleep [07:22] hi LaserJock :) [07:23] hi Birthday_kgoetz [07:23] :) [07:24] wild guess here, but I'm getting the feeling it's somebody's birthday :-) [07:24] LaserJock: :) what gave it away :) [07:27] so if I resolve a merge from MoM, I'll just dput it to universe? [07:28] re [07:33] do I need to apply to that: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+members ? [07:34] hub: that's for people who want to upload to REVU [07:34] ah right [07:34] I"m already in Ubuntu-dev [07:36] yep, so i think you can just upload the merge [07:41] I know I can upload to universe [07:41] I was asking if that was the right thing [07:41] I'll do it === Bazzi [n=Bastian@p50803682.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@tonio.planetemu.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-232-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:52] hi all [07:52] <_ion> Bono estente. === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-232-250.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:59] Heya Tonio_ [08:00] hi bddebian [08:00] Heya LaserJock === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:04] hey bddebianisagod and LaserJock [08:04] hi highvoltage [08:05] LaserJock: how are things? [08:05] highvoltage: still sick, but got a driver's license === bddebian kicks highvoltage ;-) [08:06] LaserJock: heh. i wish i could say that :) === highvoltage limps around the channel [08:06] highvoltage: could say what? [08:06] LaserJock: I told you to stay away from those French hookers.. ;-P [08:06] LaserJock: that i got my drivers' license! [08:06] bddebian: if only they could stay away from him, too! [08:07] :-) === highvoltage hopes that LaserJock's wife isn't reading [08:07] I'm talking to her on the phone [08:08] It's the stupid subway system [08:08] highvoltage: I had a driver's license at 16, not having one is really bad for me [08:09] I have 2 drivers license [08:09] one European, one north american [08:09] still haven't gotten new credit and atm cards though, they should be arriving anyday [08:10] LaserJock: what happened? [08:10] you lost everything? [08:10] hub: yeah, pickpocketed on the Paris subway [08:10] LaserJock: i have a learners, my biggest incentive for a license is so that i can buy a better car. at the moment it's an 1989 citi golf [08:10] LaserJock: never happened to me [08:11] LaserJock: and I have taken the subway for YEARS [08:11] hub: where do you live? [08:11] highvoltage: Ottawa, Canada [08:11] highvoltage: used to live in Paris' burb [08:11] and Lille [08:11] highvoltage: I had to learn to drive early growing up on a ranch, I could drive decently well by the time I was 12 [08:12] wow. i only learned to drive when i was about 22. [08:12] (well, drive car, at least) [08:12] I got my license at 19 [08:12] in France the age is 18 anyway [08:13] 18 here too. [08:13] you can drink before you can drive ;-) [08:13] well, I had to get a driver's license at 16 so I could drive myself to university ;-) [08:14] we can only drink from 18 too. and smoke. [08:14] smoke at 18, drink at 21 here [08:14] LaserJock: wow. we seriously need more liberal laws here :) [08:14] in France, they don't care [08:14] anybody can buy smokes [08:14] and bozze [08:15] I've seen kids smoking at 10 in France :( [08:15] w00t [08:15] hub: well, that explains why Paris is so dirty ;) [08:15] lol [08:15] heh [08:15] i've seen kids smoking at 12 in cape town too, but at least they throw their cigarette buds in the bin when they're done ;) [08:16] but at least you go to Subway next to Notre Dame, Paris can't be all that bad [08:16] highvoltage: compared to what? [08:16] LaserJock: as a tourist Paris is a nice town :) [08:16] hub: cape town, durban, london [08:17] Toadstool: if you keep you wallet ;-) [08:17] even jo'burg. [08:17] only been to london [08:17] not significantly cleaner [08:17] LaserJock: that's because the guy noticed you were a foreigner ^^ [08:17] that's because I never put the wallet in the back pack or the back pocket of the jeans [08:17] seriously [08:18] yeah [08:18] I put it in the front to be careful [08:18] london was cleaner than paris was now when i was there last year. [08:18] heh when i was in nairobi some kids stole my dad's mirror from his car [08:18] at least london has signs "This is a high pick-pocket area" in certain areas :) [08:18] LaserJock: You were an Evil American so you were a target ;-P [08:18] bddebian: of course :-) [08:18] tss :) [08:19] bddebian: which evil nationilty are you? [08:19] at least I had a great bunch of friends around :-) [08:19] LaserJock: :) [08:19] highvoltage: they have the same announcement in paris subway... in French [08:19] highvoltage: I am the most Evil of Americans :-) [08:19] highvoltage: anyway. Rule #1 pickpockets are everywhere [08:19] hub: hehe [08:19] rule #2: not seeing any, see rule #1 [08:20] anyway ... [08:21] everybody got there edgy pbuilders ready to go? [08:21] LaserJock: Sort of :-) [08:21] were we going to do a REVU day today? [08:21] mine is working [08:22] I'm still trying to grab all the -updates and -security stuff on my Dapper box :( [08:22] mine is broken 'cause the local mirror doesn't have the latest cpio version... :( [08:23] whenever anyone has a second, I'd love to be approved as a universe contributor [08:23] fbond: did you join the LP team? [08:24] that's what I need approval on [08:24] as long as you have joined, then somebody will be around to approve it when they can [08:24] ok [08:24] they are notified by email when you join [08:26] I think siretart is the one that can approve [08:27] beware that sudo, cpio, and binutils are all horked on Edgy currently === selinium [n=selinium@80-193-7-120.cable.ubr02.sout.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:27] ajmitch: what time is it there? [08:28] crimsun: I thought they were fixed recently (at least cpio) [08:28] Heya chillywilly [08:28] hi [08:28] LaserJock: the first two should be [08:29] LaserJock: binutils bug only rears its head in stripping [08:29] ah [08:30] this release cycle is so short, I sure hope things like that can get ironed out soon === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] how often update MoM listing? [08:56] LaserJock: I almost have scilab-4.0 nailed, I think [08:56] who's uploading merges with MoM still listed in the changelog? :) [08:56] Not I [08:58] OK, now I am really confused. I did a pubilder login --save-after-login, apt-get update, and exit [08:58] And when I pbuilder build foo, it still can't find x11proto-gl-dev [09:00] bddebian: can you put your source package up somewhere? [09:00] It's not mine [09:01] who's is it? === shenki [n=shenki@ppp147-73.lns3.adl2.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Cya!"] [09:02] Hobbsee's [09:02] But it works in her and imbrandon's pbuilders [09:06] bddebian: oh, then that's quite odd [09:07] Aye === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] bddebian: you don't have x11proto-gl-dev in http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages ? [09:34] crimsun: If I do an apt-get install from pbuilder login, it works fine [09:35] ...but? [09:35] pbuilder build doesn't get it [09:36] got the source package posted? [09:36] dsc would be fine for starters [09:37] No, Hobbsee sent it to me via e-mail [09:37] Though it might be on REVU by now [09:37] ksudoku [09:37] yeah, that is on revu [09:39] got something funky in your pbuilder, perhaps? [09:41] Aye but I can't figure out what.. [09:42] and the pbuilder's up to date n' all? [09:42] hey slomo , 'sup? :) [09:42] I did both a 'sudo pbuild-edgy update --override-config' and tried 'sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login' and apt-get update inside [09:56] OK, dumb question. What is PREFIX vs. DESTDIR? [09:57] prefix is the actual prefix of the path where file are installed [09:57] normally, /usr [09:57] destdir is the destination where compiled source is installed into [09:58] Ah, hmm [09:58] Man this stupid scilab package is making me feel more stupid than usual :-( [09:58] so for Debian/Ubuntu packages, prefix is normally /usr, and destdir is normally $(pwd)/debian/$package === lakin [n=lakin@206.174.196.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:59] Well this is what Scientific Computing is doing for scilab.. $(MAKE) -e install PREFIX=$(CURDIR)/debian/scilab/usr DOCNAME=scilab [10:02] so they're using PREFIX where packages normally use DESTDIR? [10:02] can you post the Makefile? [10:03] crimsun: According to Debian.readme, they specifically aren't touching the configuration files [10:04] But they are using normal debhelper stuff, not cdbs [10:04] right, but I would need to see the Makefile to understand its semantics [10:04] Oh, sorry, hang on [10:04] (well, its syntax but the semantics of the call) === DanielC [n=daniel@82.151.249.90.adsl.griffin.net.uk] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [10:09] when is uds-paris? [10:10] it was last week [10:10] it happened already [10:10] oh, cool === Spec wrote a spec and it got approved :) [10:11] which one? [10:12] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/auto-unmount-notifications [10:13] ah [10:13] crimsun: will a makefile.in do? [10:14] bddebian: erm, well, we'll see [10:14] I guess I can make one [10:16] LaserJock: it's not a very impressive spec, but it should've been implemented since breezy ;p [10:17] no, usability improvements are impressive regardless [10:17] lots of small improvements win [10:18] what is most annoying to me at the moment is that external storage via usb/firewire isn't unmounted pre-suspend-to-{ram,disk} [10:23] to me there seemed to be a lot of activity around usability and a11y in Paris [10:23] as there should have been imnsho [10:24] I wish I could have gone to all the BOFs :-) [10:24] it was really hard picking and choosing [10:35] Damn, apparently I REALLY don't understand cdbs :'-( [10:35] there is simply too much inanity in #ubuntu atm [10:43] crimsun: If you get a sec: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/scilab4/ [10:43] I'm firewalled on 8000 [10:43] pretty much firewalled on everything save 80, 22, and 21. [10:44] (sec, I need to find another host) [10:44] crimsun: bummer, I feel your pain, although not quite that much [10:50] i can mirror for you if you want. [10:51] http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/scilab4/ [10:51] there you go. [10:52] Nice [10:53] crimsun: It seems like even with PREFIX set, it tries to create the $package dir under debian/tmp [10:54] bddebian: right, so they're using PREFIX where DESTDIR normally is [10:55] prefix/destdir a non-issue [10:55] what dh_compat? [10:55] crimsun: Yeah, the do weird crap like prefix=$PREFIX [10:55] any .installs? [10:55] 3 of them [10:55] Compat 4 [10:55] does debian/rules force it into debian/tmp/ ? [10:56] I am trying to. Or do you mean theirs? scilab-3.0 cdbs did [10:56] what do the .installs use? [10:56] meaning scilab-4.0's === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:56] I know but the scicomputing package or mine? scicomputing only builds 1 binary [10:56] They use debhelper [10:57] whichever package you're having problems with [10:58] Ah, mine has the following, witch is wrong: [10:58] debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/X11_defaults/ [10:58] debian/tmp/usr/lib/scilab/config/ [11:01] (hi barry!) [11:03] ? [11:03] Did you mean what are the .install files? [11:05] crimsun: Did I lose you? [11:07] bddebian: yes === Axces [n=zaman@cpe-65-27-156-105.cinci.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:08] :-( === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:11] bddebian: the "yes" was in response to the .install === Amaranth_ [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:13] crimsun: Oh, sorry. scilab.install, scilab-doc.install, and scilab-bin.install [11:13] bddebian: right, do those use tmp ? [11:14] The first two lines of scilab.install is what I posted above [11:14] nod, and fixing those results in...? [11:15] What do you mean by "fixing" those? My package doesn't install in temp unless I hack that PREFIX= line [11:15] source package would work best. Offline for 30 minutes. [11:15] And even then it's screwed === kr4z [n=kr4z@stjhnf0111w-142163099001.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Axces [n=zaman@cpe-65-27-156-105.cinci.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:32] hey [11:32] Howdy [11:33] crimsun: I have to head home. Thanks for your time and hopefully I can catch you later on.. [11:33] Later folks === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.32.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu