[12:01] <smax> root@smax:/media# lspci |grep audio
[12:01] <smax> 0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Yamaha Corporation YMF-724F [DS-1 Audio Controller]  (rev 03)
[12:01] <smax> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40)
[12:01] <tovella> facerape: sorry i forgot  - totem is now the default. does totem play sounds?
[12:01] <Timir> ablyss, What do you mean WAN and LAN? _<
[12:01] <facerape> ok cool i set password
[12:01] <smax> but in list of the devices there no sound cards
[12:01] <gatekeeper> vilefridge: you have installed xubuntu?
[12:01] <tovella> jmpmjmpm: another part of why i got rid of the drivers.
[12:01] <ablyss> Timir, you best to use $40 NAT router.
[12:01] <Timir> ablyss, <_< I have a router...
[12:01] <facerape> fuck knows mate im able to play ogg vids
[12:02] <jmpmjmpm> lol
[12:02] <vilefridge> gatekeeper: correct.  Here's a thread regarding the RAID install process I followed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196005
[12:02] <ablyss> not that linux isn't good at NAT
[12:02] <facerape> from the examples folder
[12:02] <jmpmjmpm> did you also get rid of the printer?
[12:02] <Timir> A friend just went "Oh, it's not going to the internet because you don't have NAT set up!" and I'm sitting here going "What in the hell is NAT?"
[12:02] <ablyss> but teaching you how to use linux as NAT ....i'd rather pull my hair out
[12:02] <vilefridge> gatekeeper: I'm 'eric.ws.anderson' in that thread
[12:02] <facerape> ok best video player for ubuntu
[12:02] <hawkaloogie> facerape, totem-xine
[12:02] <freezey> xmms
[12:02] <ablyss> Timir, you router should be NAT ready
[12:02] <facerape> i use videolan on my windows machines
[12:03] <tovella> facerape: good - that means your sound card is working.  do you have a DVD player and a DVD movie we could use test?
[12:03] <Timir> ablyss, If the computer is getting internet, then NAT is not needed, right?
[12:03] <kristian> I have now installed wine and mozilla (windows edition) and when I try to open http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ to test the shockwave, mozilla want's me to download a default.cache file or something. Why and what's that file?
[12:03] <facerape> yeah it has a dvd player
[12:03] <facerape> ill just go get a dvd
[12:03] <facerape> brb
[12:03] <smax> People help me i've got to soundcard's what should i do to see them
[12:03] <ablyss> Timir, NAT is already in use... if you had no internet, you would not be using NAT
[12:03] <Timir> ablyss, k, thanks
[12:03] <ablyss> yw
 i use videolan on my windows machines <-- I use that on just about all platforms I use :P
[12:04] <smax> is there any tools like alsaconfig in Slackware
[12:04] <socket7> Has anyone here ever gotten idectl working properly?
[12:04] <smax> i want to run autodetect my soundcards
[12:05] <vircuser> I want to get Wireless for my house (from scratch...I have no components)...anyone know what requirements Ubuntu needs?
[12:05] <cntb> smax how old is your sound card ?
[12:05] <cntb> I hope not an ISAPNP
[12:05] <smax> it's work's on 5.10
[12:06] <tovella> vircuser: i don't think there are any special requirments.
[12:06] <vircuser> tovella: So if I go to my shop and just my any old wireless and wireless cards it will all work? :/
[12:06] <Reimu> Is there any way to make ubuntu's terminal colours white on black, instead of black on white? This setup bothers me >_>
[12:06] <vircuser> *buy
[12:06] <smax> this soundcard worked on 5.10 on 6.06 it doesn't work
[12:06] <gatekeeper> vilefridge: everything you have told me suggests that no sound stuff has been installed at all, the command lshw will tell you what your hardware is, but I am not sure how you would sort this one out
[12:07] <yallaman> how can i get dual monitors to work?
[12:07] <valehru> trying to get xgl up and running according to the how-to....have logged into a gnome xgl session
[12:07] <ablyss> Reimu, you can adjust gnome-terminals schema easily by editing the preferences
[12:07] <pandora--> AM_PATH_GTK... where would this be? and why cant i compile things that need it?
[12:07] <Reimu> ablyss: Oh its a gnome thing not a terminal thing?
[12:08] <vilefridge> gatekeeper: says it's the Nvidia CK804.  I tried installing Nvidia drivers, but taht didn't help either.
[12:08] <Reimu> ablyss: where is it?
[12:08] <valehru> the next step it says to do is" gnome-window-decorator & however I get the message  [1]  5680.  When I try and run compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher water & I get the error message [1]    Exit 1                  gnome-window-decorator
[12:08] <valehru> valehru@ubuntu:~$ compiz.real: No composite extension
[12:08] <smax> Somebody help me! i have no sound in 5.10 everything worked fine but in 6.06 it doesn't.
[12:08] <tovella> vircuser: can't promise you that, but if you get a wireless router, and a wireless card or USB device from the same manufacturer, it should work.  I've had great success with the DLink products.
[12:08] <BoSJo> All: Hi, new to Linux, Using Kubuntu latest dist. and i'm just about 3 days in to Linux. Everything is now up and running, except my Brother MFC-8420 printer. Got an advice yesterday on how to install it, been sitting all day trying to remove it again since it f..... the whole sys. got rid of it now and sys is ok.
[12:09] <BoSJo> http://solutions.brother.com/linux/sol/printer/linux/cups_drivers.html
[12:09] <BoSJo> can i safly install these drivers for Debian
[12:09] <cntb> what is the competitor in ubuntu for exchange server for small business?
[12:09] <smax> 2 soundcards and no sound it's terrible
[12:09] <gatekeeper> vilefridge: think you need someone with a bit more knowledge than me sorry
[12:10] <facerape> smax - try removing one of them
[12:10] <tovella> BoSJo: i tried those drivers with a Beta of Dapper.  They screwed up my system pretty bad.  They haven't had any further development for a couple of years.
[12:10] <facerape> it maybe getting crossover issues with trying to run 2 at once
[12:10] <facerape> either way back and who wanted me to test a dvd?
[12:10] <Cntryboy> nickrud: see I told you, I would lose visual, everything boots up and everything but my screen is blankkk
[12:11] <Cntryboy> nickrud: i had to go through reconfig 3 times just to get back here with vesa driver
[12:11] <vilefridge> gatekeeper: ok, thanks for the help!
[12:11] <BoSJo> tovella: so no way to get it up and running then?? can i use some generic driver instead
[12:11] <facerape> tovella: what to do with this dvd?
[12:11] <smax> facerape I change motherboard on this motherboard this soundcard worked 2 mothes ago.
[12:11] <tovella> facerape: just remembered - DVD playing requires a codec that is NOT free, thus not included with Ubuntu.  I used EasyUbuntu http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:12] <facerape> can i steel it via torrents
[12:12] <facerape> and can you link me a torrent
[12:12] <facerape> i dont have internet on the ububtu b0x yet
[12:12] <facerape> im doing all file transfer via cd-r from my windows b0x
[12:13] <smax> What should i do whith soundcard's? may be hotplug help me?
[12:13] <facerape> have you tried a full reinstall?
[12:13] <facerape> shouldnt it detect it on installation?
[12:14] <facerape> i know its a mission but i bet it works
[12:14] <crazy_penguin> good night everybody (here is 1 am). sleep well! :)
[12:14] <smax> no i don't want reinstall ((
[12:14] <facerape> you must be in europe
[12:14] <facerape> lol i do a fresh install about once a month
[12:14] <Cntryboy> Does anyone know why, after I install my nvidia-glx drivers for this geforce xf5500, and restart x I lose visual? I mean everything is here, but my screen is like shut down blinking and it has nothing to see
[12:15] <facerape> (at least of /\/\$ OS's
[12:15] <Skripo> Hello
[12:15] <smax> lspci |grep audio find two soundcards is there a config or something like that wich i should change
[12:15] <Skripo> How can I tell what device # my DVB card is?
[12:16] <Cntryboy> helloooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:16] <nickrud> Cntryboy, make it fail, then copy the /var/log/Xorg.0.log to your home. After you get X back, paste the log that's in your home
[12:16] <nickrud> Cntryboy, brb
[12:16] <Cntryboy> i don't wanna make it fail no more,, it takes forever to get it working again
[12:16] <Stormx2> yo
[12:16] <k31th> Wats best way to copy data from one box to another over the net i need to keep file perms and ownership will scp -rp work ?
[12:17] <Graig> how do i add a directory to the path?
[12:17] <Skripo> How can I tell what device # my DVB card is?
[12:17] <eNons3nse> i'm trying to partition a new hard drive.  it's showing up in Drive Manager, but not in qtparted.
[12:17] <eNons3nse> is there a better drive partitioning utility?
[12:17] <kristian> my graphic with my ati card really sucks! Mozilla looks like a nightmare:S
[12:17] <facerape> ok what do i need to get dvd playback?
[12:18] <nosilver4u> is it possible to switch from 32-bit to 64-bit without reinstalling?
[12:18] <kristian> why do u want to do that nisilver4u?
[12:18] <Graig> eNons3nse: i thought qparted was a partition resizer.
[12:18] <mjr> nosilver4u, not really
[12:18] <nosilver4u> facerape: all the gstreamer plugin packages from universe and multiverse, and gxine
[12:18] <facerape> nocilver4u: i seriousely doubt it
[12:18] <nosilver4u> i just upgraded to a 64-bit cpu, and don't really care to reinstall if i don't have to
[12:18] <nikhil> yeah i'm back
[12:18] <eNons3nse> Graig: i don't know.  never done it before.
[12:19] <nikhil> sorry for the sudden brb nicolas___
[12:19] <nosilver4u> couldn't i just change my repositories, and upgrade?
[12:19] <facerape> tbh i have no idea
[12:19] <facerape> i know with win you need a full install
[12:19] <eNons3nse> Graig: what can i used to partition a new HD?
[12:19] <Graig> eNons3nse: try the "disks" applet under system, administration.
[12:19] <facerape> no upgrade from xp to xp64
[12:19] <tovella> k31th: yeah scp will work, so will rsync.
[12:19] <Graig> eNons3nse: there should be a create button under the hdd there.
[12:20] <iamelite> LOL...
[12:20] <nosilver4u> i'm not trying to do xp, i want ubuntu 64
[12:20] <valehru> gah
[12:20] <iamelite> Never ask #cedega for help with thier software.
[12:20] <socket7> Does anyone know how to make removable CD rom drives hotpluggable with ubuntu? I tried using idectl but it always errors out.
[12:20] <smax> So is there any tool like alsaconf in Slackware
[12:20] <facerape> otherwise you just end up forcing your 64 bit proc to run at 32
[12:20] <eNons3nse> Graig: i can see the drive in there, but the create button is greyed out (inactive).  it's like that for all my drives.
[12:20] <valehru> I need help....I tried to install xgl and now my windows manager has completely dissappeared
[12:20] <valehru> I have no window manager...help
[12:20] <facerape> does totem movie player do dvd?
[12:20] <Skripo> Why not ask #cedega for help with thier software?
[12:20] <DShepherd> facerape: it should..
[12:21] <Ribs> Skripo: He got the hump 'cos I didn't help him
[12:21] <DShepherd> valehru: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[12:21] <Ribs> he seems to think I work for transgaming, or somehow owe him something
[12:21] <Skripo> ???
[12:21] <Ribs> *shrug*
[12:21] <nosilver4u> can you run 32-bit apps on ubuntu 64?
[12:21] <Skripo> What does that mean?
[12:21] <facerape> doesnt it need codecs?
[12:21] <nosilver4u> or do you have to go 64 all the way?
[12:21] <Cyorxamp> Can ubuntu play theora encoded video out of the box!?
[12:21] <Ribs> "got the hump" -> "Got annoyed"
[12:21] <tovella> facerape: you can download EasyUbuntu even with a windows machine.
[12:21] <Ribs> Cyorxamp: I believe so
[12:21] <Skripo> Ah
[12:21] <Graig> eNons3nse: type disks-admin in the console, for some reason the default had gksu in front of thename.
[12:21] <NickGarvey> Cyorxamp: I think so because its OSS
[12:21] <kdefreak> nosilver4u: in a chroot enviornment i would go 32bit all the way IMHO
[12:22] <Skripo> Maybe if he had a subscription he would get the help he needed
[12:22] <Cyorxamp> what other video codecs out the box?
[12:22] <facerape> i know that but i want to keep my system resonably cleen
[12:22] <facerape> i dont need all the shit easyubuntu installs
[12:22] <Ribs> Skripo: I think he does, or did... but had no idea how to actually ask for help
[12:22] <Ribs> meh
[12:22] <NickGarvey> !language
[12:22] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:22] <Graig> eNons3nse: mabey then it will let you, as it should ask for the password.
[12:22] <facerape> i have no need to be able to create a text doc with it
[12:22] <Bassetts> !lamp
[12:22] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <kdefreak> facerape: please watch your language
[12:22] <nosilver4u> kdefreak: you wouldn't switch to 64-bit at all?
[12:22] <kdefreak> nosilver4u: not me
[12:22] <facerape> all it has to do is playback avis
[12:22] <tovella> facerape: you can select which stuff you want/dont want.
[12:22] <Bassetts> !apache
[12:22] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:22] <Bassetts> gah
[12:22] <eNons3nse> Graig: it did ask me for a password before as well.  even when i do disks-admin its still greyed out for all my drives.
[12:23] <DShepherd> facerape: have you checked out the restricted formats page on the wiki? it should help
[12:23] <nosilver4u> anyone else have recommendations?
[12:23] <Cyorxamp> HAVE A POO
[12:23] <Cyorxamp> lol
[12:23] <erUSUL> Bassetts: please do /msg ubotu topic
[12:23] <Intangir> a neat trick i noticed, you can mouse over the speaker/volume icon on your panel, and mousewheel up and down to change volume
[12:23] <kalosaurusrex> what's your question again nosilver?
[12:23] <Intangir> you dont even have to open it
[12:23] <Bassetts> Sorry
[12:23] <Bassetts> =(
[12:23] <kdefreak> erUSUL: just type /topic should do it
[12:23] <Graig> eNons3nse: hmm, not sure then.
[12:24] <tovella> facerape: try it you you will see - in only installs the stuff you select.
[12:24] <facerape> ok on installation my dvd drive wont open anymore
[12:24] <erUSUL> kdefreak: nice to know ;)
[12:24] <kdefreak> ;)
[12:24] <facerape> i press the button and nothing happens
[12:24] <Cyorxamp> hEY Seveas
[12:24] <facerape> its just makes nasty noises
[12:24] <Cyorxamp> It's grumbling as it's on strike
[12:24] <nosilver4u> on whether or not i should switch to 64-bit ubuntu?
[12:24] <erUSUL> facerape: try sudo eject /dev/hdxx
[12:25] <anto9us> facerape, if it's mounted it won't, add the disk mounter to your panel, that's useful
[12:25] <facerape> ok i shut my b0x down and it appears to have been running of the disk
[12:25] <tovella> facerape: sounds like one of my DVD drives.  mine is slowly dying.
[12:25] <facerape> so its ejects it
[12:25] <facerape> yeah it is 7 yrs old
[12:25] <facerape> dvd 2speed
[12:25] <facerape> what power
[12:25] <facerape> lol
[12:25] <Seveas> hi
[12:25] <Cyorxamp> i've never had a cddrive die slowly - but always cdr drives
[12:25] <NickGarvey> /dev/sdb is a sata drive?
[12:25] <Cyorxamp> the speeds get slower and slower - then nothing
[12:25] <pawsilver> hi
[12:26] <smax> So How I can change my soundcard
[12:26] <facerape> ok i put in the install disk and it all worked
[12:26] <pawsilver> Any one know of a better program than crossover office to run MS Win XP based programs
[12:26] <vizo> hello
[12:26] <facerape> shut by b0x down and ran it again
[12:26] <NickGarvey> !sata
[12:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about sata
[12:26] <facerape> removed disk and now nothing happens
[12:26] <facerape> its searching for a boot diskect
[12:26] <NickGarvey> Cyorxamp: :)
[12:26] <erUSUL> Seveas: greetings
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> smax, whats the problem, onboard sound card and plub in conflicts?
[12:27] <majd> hi, my ubuntu is successfully finding my imac and macbook, but it can't access their files
[12:27] <facerape> so did it just b00t from the disk
[12:27] <majd> how can i find out if it's an ubuntu or a mac problem?
[12:27] <Jack_Sparrow> pawsilver: Wine
[12:27] <facerape> rather than copying the installation files to the hdd
[12:27] <facerape> and then install off that
[12:27] <facerape> or run
[12:28] <vizo> has anyone had any luck getting their quickcam to work with umbuntu?
[12:28] <pawsilver> no wine doesn't work either and seems to be a free version of crossover office
[12:28] <smax> Jack_Sparrow yes onboard sound card but it doesn't detect after changing motherboard
[12:28] <nose> somebody helps where to find w32codecs?
[12:28] <kalosaurusrex> !mp3
[12:28] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:28] <kalosaurusrex> !codecs
[12:28] <smax> !sound
[12:28] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:28] <Cyorxamp> !ogg
[12:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about ogg
[12:28] <kalosaurusrex> rofl
[12:29] <facerape> did i dl the wrong disk? cause it doesnt seem to have installed, it seems to be running off the disk
[12:29] <marktzar> tell marktzar about NTFS
[12:29] <Cyorxamp> !ntfs
[12:29] <facerape> i want to install to a blank hdd
[12:29] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[12:29] <marktzar> ubotu, tell marktzar about ntfs
[12:29] <nose> my sound does not work
[12:29] <marktzar> thanking you Cyorxamp
[12:29] <nose> !codecs
[12:29] <Cyorxamp> :P
[12:29] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:29] <pawsilver> !sata
[12:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about sata
[12:29] <Cyorxamp> !boobs
[12:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about boobs
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Nose, read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[12:30] <tovella> facerape: I gotta go, but before i do, let me point you to this website: http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/wget.htm  this will allow you to use wget on your windows box, should you decide to try EasyUbuntu.
[12:30] <pawsilver> !ata
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about ata
[12:30] <Cyorxamp> !nothing
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[12:30] <pawsilver> !ata drives
[12:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about ata drives
[12:30] <Cyorxamp> Well thats good news :P
[12:30] <facerape> ANYONE?
[12:30] <realjimshady> Just tried installing Dapper on an IBM desktop w/ onboard Intel 82845 video -- getting "Failed to start X server"
[12:30] <anto9us> ubotu tell facerape about install
[12:30] <Jack_Sparrow> FAce, so you are running live right
[12:30] <realjimshady> I tried the "simple video method" as well
[12:31] <facerape> no idea
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Tough to help you with that much info
[12:31] <realjimshady> Appreciate any suggestions.  I have 6+ other Dapper boxen, but this video thing is a weird one.  Google has been unhelpful
[12:31] <facerape> i dl'd the first file it has in the download section
[12:31] <linux_user400354> how can i get mozilla firebird?
[12:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Face, do you have an option on the desktop for INSTALL
[12:32] <Cyorxamp> linux_user400354 - search for firefox
[12:32] <smax> What soud server used dapper and where is my sound config
[12:32] <facerape> no idea
[12:32] <facerape> i deleted my windows partion
[12:32] <facerape> and stuck the disk in
[12:32] <linux_user400354> Cyorxamp i said firebird
[12:32] <Jack_Sparrow> linux_user400354: tought when it dosent exist, thunderbird howerver does and works fine using add programs
[12:32] <facerape> then it said install/run ubuntu
[12:32] <facerape> when i did it it b00ted up
[12:32] <Cyorxamp> linux_user400354 - so you want an old version of firefox?
[12:32] <facerape> then when i shut down and tried to boot again
[12:32] <anto9us> facerape, there's an installer available after you've booted
[12:32] <brotherJohn1234> linux_user400354: or songbird  ?
[12:32] <facerape> it went back to the same point
[12:32] <bjornkri> ohoy
[12:33] <linux_user400354> nevermind
[12:33] <realjimshady> facerape - where are you stuck at - I may be at the same point
[12:33] <facerape> im going through the boot process again
[12:33] <Cyorxamp> linux_user400354:   Phoenix -> Firebird -> Firefox
[12:33] <eNons3nse> Graig: I've got it figured out using gparted.  since its a 2nd hd (not the boot one) do i need to make it an extended partition or leave it as primary?
[12:33] <facerape> its taking a long time cause the dvd drive + proc is crap
[12:33] <smax> where can i find my alsa config
[12:33] <martibs> how can I mount samba shares without beeing root?
[12:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Face you should have a desktop option to install to the hard drive
[12:33] <erUSUL> smax: /etc/asound.conf
[12:33] <facerape> ok where?
[12:34] <facerape> = proper linux n00b
[12:34] <NickGarvey> !sata
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about sata
[12:34] <NickGarvey> damn I tried that
[12:34] <Cyorxamp> !cock
[12:34] <facerape> what do you need to know about sata?
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about cock
[12:34] <bjornkri> I've managed to connect to my work through VPN, but I'm not sure how to access the drives over there... Is there a way to access windows shares?
[12:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Nick, what do you need to know about sata
[12:34] <coopster> !anything
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[12:34] <Cyorxamp> lol
[12:34] <marktzar> !chdisk
[12:34] <Cyorxamp> !everything
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about everything
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about chdisk
[12:34] <realjimshady> Anyone: Getting "Failed to start X server" at boot of a fresh install AND when using LiveCD's "safe video" mode -- any ideas?
[12:34] <Cyorxamp> !linux
[12:34] <ubotu> linux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[12:34] <Cyorxamp> damn it!
[12:34] <linux_user400354> i want to install solaris in a vmworkstation
[12:34] <coopster> !why_Cyorxamp_touches_himself_at_night_.
 smax: /etc/asound.conf>> there are no such file
[12:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about why_Cyorxamp_touches_himself_at_night_.
[12:34] <realjimshady> BJORN, do you use Gnome or KDE?
[12:35] <coopster> heh, ok, I'm done
[12:35] <anto9us> stop playing with the bot please guys
[12:35] <Cyorxamp> damn you!
[12:35] <bjornkri> realjimshady: Gnome
[12:35] <Cyorxamp> :(
[12:35] <facerape> lol
[12:35] <Cyorxamp> You could have just left it at the warning!
[12:35] <Cyorxamp> I barely got a chance to read it
[12:35] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: my friend has a sata drive and grub won't let him load anything
[12:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I have sata and installed just fine
[12:35] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: he runs "fdisk -l" and gets nothing
[12:35] <NickGarvey> ok, maybe hes just special then
[12:35] <realjimshady> bjorn: launch smb4k
[12:36] <realjimshady> it is kind of like browsing Windows shares via Linx
[12:36] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: did you need to do anything special?
[12:36] <Cyorxamp> !windows
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Not a thing..
[12:36] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[12:36] <bjornkri> Installing first :) Thanks
[12:36] <Cyorxamp> LOL!
[12:36] <bjornkri> I'll see how that goes
[12:36] <NickGarvey> Jack_Sparrow: okie, hes just special, thank you
[12:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Still want to see if we can help,
[12:36] <eNons3nse> NickGarvey: i gave up on getting my sata drive to work.  from what i figured out its a problem with that version of the kernel.  need to compile a newer one.
[12:37] <dli> gnome in dapper is too buggy for most?
[12:37] <coopster> dli: works fine for me
[12:37] <NickGarvey> eNons3nse: what version of ubuntu did you sue?
[12:37] <Jack_Sparrow> I have two or three machines running sata drives and did nothing to configure them
[12:37] <dli> coopster, memory leak, firefox keeps crashing (it works well in fluxbox)
[12:38] <chaos_of_apocaly> can anyone tell me the command to start the X server from the shell????
[12:38] <Expedia> X
[12:38] <erUSUL> Cyorxamp: please do /msg ubotu topic
[12:38] <coopster> chaos_of_apocaly: startx
[12:38] <facerape> Jack_Sparrow: where is this desktop installation thing
[12:38] <dli> chaos_of_apocaly, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:38] <Expedia> X is the command.
[12:38] <NickGarvey> chaos_of_apocaly: "gdm"
[12:38] <Expedia> Or use Xorg.
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> facerape: are you booted to the live cd?
[12:38] <facerape> i have no idea
[12:38] <Jack_Sparrow> do you see an install option on the desktop
[12:38] <Expedia> NickGarvey, doesn't that command start the Gnome Desktop Manager?
[12:38] <coopster> dli: no clue, havent heard of that
[12:38] <anto9us> chaos_of_apocaly, best to restart gdm,
[12:39] <NickGarvey> Expedia: yes, which starts X
[12:39] <facerape> ive booted to the first thing that is availiable in the dl section of the ubuntu
[12:39] <facerape> site
[12:39] <eNons3nse> dapper with the default kernel
[12:39] <Expedia> NickGarvey, roger and hello.
[12:39] <anto9us> chaos_of_apocaly, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:39] <NickGarvey> :)
[12:39] <Cyorxamp> erUSUL - lol
[12:39] <tanlaan> hey all
[12:39] <dli> coopster, how much ram do you have there?
[12:39] <Jack_Sparrow> facerape:  you put in the cd and power up or reboot and tell me everything you see beofre you touch anything
[12:40] <facerape> Jack_Sparrow: all i see is a blank desktop
[12:40] <tanlaan> i have just installed a few MOO servers using synaptic...where do i go to find them?
[12:40] <facerape> just black
[12:40] <coopster> dli: 1 gig
[12:40] <dli> coopster, memory leaking is noticed first on systems with tight memory
[12:40] <coopster> dli: i'm aware, i havent seen many people complaining about it though
[12:40] <dli> coopster, maybe that's why, I was talking about one with 192MB
[12:41] <coopster> ...
[12:41] <facerape> Jack_Sparrow: ok ive got examples + install on the desktop
[12:41] <coopster> gnomefreak: change of heart?
[12:41] <facerape> anyone got any ideas?
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> face, we need to start from something we can recognize...
[12:41] <gnomefreak> coopster: noi
[12:41] <gnomefreak> no
[12:41] <Jack_Sparrow> finally, click on INSTALL
[12:41] <smax> How can i change my sound card
[12:41] <cartesian1984> All right...I have xserver problems. Does it print to a logfile anywhere?
[12:41] <marktzar> anyone tell me how to change the permission to "write" of a drive I mounted? it wont let me because I'm "not the owner"
[12:41] <facerape> take one out and plug in a new one?
[12:41] <dli> smax, it should work auto
[12:41] <tanlaan> where can i find my programs that i have installed in synaptic?
[12:42] <smax> dli it doesn't
[12:42] <crimsun> smax: as in you have a new one, or?
[12:42] <dli> marktzar, can you mount with -ouid= (for ntfs), or simply chown ?
[12:42] <anto9us> tanlaan, click the package again in synaptic, select properties and you can list installed files
[12:42] <tanlaan> i know that
[12:42] <nickwebcouk> alright folks - quikie for yas.. i want to use spamassassin to filter my mail, but i retrieve it from a POP box on my webserver.. is there any way to have the mail downloaded to a folder, have spamassassin run on it, then let evolution retrieve it from the folder? (if that makes sense,..)
[12:42] <tanlaan> but...
[12:42] <pandora--> AM_PATH_GTK... where would this be? and why cant i compile things that need it?
[12:42] <pandora--> :(
[12:42] <smax> crimsun change motherboard on this motherboard this sound card worked fine last time
[12:42] <dli> smax, if it doesn't, lspci to find the model, and put the module name in /etc/modules
[12:43] <tanlaan> i cant find the right file it installed
[12:43] <cartesian1984> tanlaan: one of those installed files will be the binary, and you can just put the filename in the terminal and it should run.
[12:43] <cartesian1984> tanlaan: It will probably be in /usr/bin
[12:43] <johan_> I finally got compiz to work! I recommend all of you who have failed to try this guide instead: http://dl.tv/blogs/digitallifetv/default.aspx
[12:43] <tanlaan> ok
[12:43] <smax> dli and what server should i restart
[12:43] <tanlaan> thanks
[12:43] <tanlaan> ill try that
[12:43] <anto9us> tanlaan, do you know the name of it? Try locate <file> from a terminal window
[12:44] <Ackeubu_> hey guys i need libmp3lame.so for audiocity. i have found libmp3lame.so.0 on my system.. is that the file i need? or do i need to do anything with libmp3lame.so.o to make it an libmp3lame.so?
[12:44] <johan_> My login screen is 1600x1200 but I want it to be 1280x1024, what do I change?
[12:44] <Celeste> hi
[12:44] <crimsun> smax: ok, is the device detected? pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[12:44] <tanlaan> yea i do know the name but i think i found the right ifle
[12:44] <tanlaan> file*
[12:44] <cartesian1984> johan_: My xserver didn't start when I tried. Do you know where I can find the xserver logfiles?
[12:44] <Celeste> what is a good p2p program which *really* works and does not use java?
[12:44] <dli> smax, modprobe the module first, then, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[12:44] <bjornkri> realjimshady: smb4k is a KDE app, so it installed all sorts of junk, and in the end didn't even find the work network :\
[12:44] <anto9us> tanlaan, which <file> will tell you the first one in the path that matches and would run when you typed it
[12:44] <cartesian1984> Celeste: bittornado, gtk-gnutella, and especialy amule.
[12:44] <NickGarvey> !p2p
[12:44] <gnomefreak> Celeste: amule? im not sure if its java or not
[12:44] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[12:44] <dli> cartesian1984, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:44] <johan_> cartesian1984: no. Did you follow the same guide as I did?
[12:45] <crimsun> dli: why "restart" alsa-utils? That only resets volumes.
[12:45] <cartesian1984> dli: Thanks.
[12:45] <cartesian1984> johan_: Nah, different one.
[12:45] <nickwebcouk> anyone? : i want to use spamassassin to filter my mail, but i retrieve it from a POP box on my webserver.. is there any way to have the mail downloaded to a folder, have spamassassin run on it, then let evolution retrieve it from the folder? (if that makes sense,..)
[12:45] <dli> crimsun, to make sure it's up
[12:45] <crimsun> there's no such thing as "restarting the sound subsystem"
[12:45] <bjornkri> Any other thoughts? I thought I should be able to log into the domain somehow, using my login and password from there, but no such dialog appears when I try accessing the drives
[12:45] <Celeste> thank you cartesian1984, NickGarvey and gnomefreak
[12:45] <dibblego> I opened a bug in a gtk library a few days ago, and it's quite crippling - I've never opened a bug, so I don't know how long they usually take to fix, so I'm wondering how long it takes, and it is much longer, I'll have to use KDE - I don't mean to be pushy, but what's the usual bug fix time?
[12:45] <bjornkri> !samba
[12:45] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:45] <gnomefreak> dibblego: what bug number?
[12:46] <crimsun> dibblego: we're very, very busy
[12:46] <dibblego> let me find it
[12:46] <_grout> how can i get ssh and vsftp to start on startup?
[12:46] <dibblego> crimsun, I understand that - I don't mean to sound rude or anything
[12:46] <johan_> I saw the guys on dl.tv use a nice little config app for xgl/compiz, not gconf but another one. Does anyone by any chance know the name of that one?
[12:46] <crimsun> dibblego: not to mention some of us do Ubuntu work in our spare time and not as a profession
[12:46] <dibblego> gnomefreak, 50836
[12:46] <gnomefreak> ty
[12:46] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys what is a file that ends with an .o ??
[12:46] <gnomefreak> dibblego: ill look at it
[12:47] <dibblego> crimsun, sure, I'm just not sure if I should use KDE in the meantime - again, I don't mean to sound pushy
[12:47] <Tiako44> If you have a static IP do you have to foward a port for every app you run?
[12:47] <smax> dli 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40) -- i have this one. What should i write in /etc/modules
[12:47] <dibblego> Ackeubu_, an object file
[12:47] <marktzar> dli
[12:47] <crimsun> smax: don't touch /etc/modules
[12:47] <anto9us> _grout, ssh server? that will configure itself to run on startup when you install it, I don't know abotu vs
[12:47] <marktzar> hold on
[12:47] <dli> smax, most likely, snd_intel8x0
[12:47] <marktzar> !unmount
[12:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about unmount
[12:47] <gnomefreak> dibblego: kde is gonna be even busier i think
[12:47] <crimsun> dli: no.
[12:47] <anto9us> ..vsftp, I don't use it
[12:47] <marktzar> hmm, how do I unmount a drive?
[12:47] <crimsun> (snd_via82xx, but /don't/ touch /etc/modules)
[12:47] <Ackeubu_> dibblego so libmp3lame.so.o is the object and libmp3lame.so is the source??
[12:47] <dibblego> gnomefreak, yeah probably, but there is not much I can seem to do with GNOME at the moment because of this problem
[12:47] <userundefine> umount /dev/$device
[12:48] <crimsun> smax: please pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[12:48] <crimsun> smax: I'll give you further advice once I've read your paste
[12:48] <anto9us> marktzar, sudo umount <mount point>
[12:48] <smax> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[12:48] <crimsun> smax: lsmod |grep ^snd_via82xx
[12:48] <dli> smax, cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:48] <dibblego> gnomefreak, if I knew how to fix it, I'd do it myself - I might educate myself on it when I get time - haven't used C in a while
[12:48] <gnomefreak> dibblego: do a few things for me
[12:49] <dibblego> gnomefreak, sure
[12:49] <gnomefreak> dibblego: run sudo apt-get update
[12:49] <gnomefreak> dibblego: let me know when done
[12:49] <dibblego> ok
[12:49] <smax> root@smax:/etc# cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:49] <smax> --- no soundcards ---
[12:49] <crimsun> dibblego: (and make sure you have -security and -updates enabled)
[12:49] <dibblego> gnomefreak, done
[12:49] <dibblego> crimsun, I'm almost sure I do (I'll check)
[12:49] <crimsun> nickrud: are you intentionally triggering my sound highlight?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> dibblego: sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-bin
[12:50] <gnomefreak> dibblego: use aptitude please
[12:50] <smax> dli no soundcard detected
[12:50] <dibblego> crimsun, yes I do
[12:50] <nickrud> crimsun, no, sorry
[12:50] <crimsun> smax: what's the output from the lsmod command I gave you above?
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> smax, what onboard sound does your system have?
[12:50] <dibblego> gnomefreak, segmentation fault
[12:50] <gnomefreak> dibblego: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:51] <dibblego> gnomefreak, segmentation fault
[12:51] <crimsun> dibblego: ``apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-bin''
[12:51] <gnomefreak> dibblego: ok give me a sec
[12:51] <smax> Jack_Sparrow 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 40)
[12:51] <smax> crimsun nothing
[12:51] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[12:51] <Ackeubu_> dibblego so libmp3lame.so.o is the object and libmp3lame.so is the source??
[12:51] <crimsun> smax: then it's not loaded. ``sudo modprobe snd_via82xx''
[12:51] <tanlaan> how would i go about...makeing a shortcut to start my program, and lets say to normally start my program *server* that i must cd to the directoty and type ./Startmux?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> lol brb have to do something
[12:52] <Ackeubu_> dibblego or what is the difference between libmp3lame.so and  libmp3lame.so.o??
[12:52] <dibblego> Ackeubu_, .so stands for shared object
[12:52] <tanlaan> or maybe how to make it so my computer will start the program that way on startup
[12:52] <dli> tanlaan, you can use menu, System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[12:52] <crimsun> Ackeubu_: that's a trailing zero '0', not a lowercase oh 'o'
[12:53] <DarkMageZ> anyone know of any repositories which have the fglrx 8.26 drivers?
[12:53] <dibblego> crimsun gnomefreak : http://rafb.net/paste/results/raUfgf87.html
[12:53] <tanlaan> dli:and use startup pograms?
[12:53] <tanlaan> *programs
[12:53] <dli> tanlaan, if you mean daemons, you can add to /etc/init.d/, and update-rc.d
[12:53] <dibblego> crimsun, note the last part for your last request
[12:53] <crimsun> smax: have you executed the modprobe command yet?
[12:53] <smax> crimsun yes
[12:54] <smax> but no sound
[12:54] <Ackeubu_> crimsun so what is the difference between a shared object .so and having an trailing .0 after the .so.0??
[12:54] <mag>  have somebody installed limewire or frostwire on your pc using compiz and xgl ?
[12:54] <crimsun> dibblego: so now ``sudo apt-get upgrade''
[12:54] <tanlaan> dli: well what im trying to do is make it so my MUSH server program will start on starup, so i dont need to interact with it to make it start
[12:54] <alcon> buenas noches alguien habla espaol
[12:54] <dibblego> crimsun, doing that now
[12:54] <Jack_Sparrow> smax: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=1986048
[12:54] <crimsun> smax: ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[12:54] <rpedro> !es
[12:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:54] <crimsun> guys, please stop misdirecting smax, ok?
[12:55] <dli> tanlaan, for user applications, use gnome-session-properties , for system services, use update-rc.d
[12:55] <smax>  [V8233A         ] : VIA8233A - VIA 8233A
[12:55] <smax>                      VIA 8233A with ALC101 at 0xe000, irq 22
[12:55] <riddlebox> what do I need to build a package? like mythtv?
[12:55] <crimsun> smax: ok, next time please use http://pastebin.ca
[12:55] <Ackeubu_> crimsun im trying to solve an assignemnt for my research. where i have to take the audio i recorded in a session and put it on my computer. the library closes in 30 min.. and its the 3rd time ive been here.. i need the  libmp3lame.so to convert the sound to mp3 or whatever so i can use the freakin sound! so can you help me solve my shity problem?
[12:55] <crimsun> smax: now please pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[12:55] <smax> i select it in xmms it played but no sound
[12:55] <JadeRobbins> sigh, i have a folder that "disappeared" and need to get it back :( any help would be appriciated
[12:56] <dli> JadeRobbins, disappeared?
[12:56] <smax> crimsun amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device
[12:56] <crimsun> Ackeubu_: enable multiverse and install lame and liblame0
[12:56] <JadeRobbins> yeah, for some reason it's not there anymore
[12:56] <gavagai> What is the easiest way to share my printer?  I'll be sharing with windows and mac computers.
[12:56] <JadeRobbins> if i ls -a i can see it
[12:56] <JadeRobbins> but i can't CD into it
[12:56] <JadeRobbins> but a normal ls or ll does not see it
[12:56] <crimsun> smax: lsmod |grep ^via82xx_
[12:57] <riddlebox> crimsun, I cannot install those packages, I am also needing them
[12:57] <crimsun> riddlebox: why can't you install them? I just verified they're installable.
[12:57] <smax> crimsun no result
[12:57] <crimsun> smax: pastebin (do NOT paste here) ``dmesg''
[12:57] <riddlebox> crimsun, I am on a default dapper install with all extra repositories in sources.list uncommented and cant
[12:58] <cap10morgan> Is there a fix for the GNOME keyboard layout issues in edgy? Or is that just broken for now?
[12:58] <crimsun> riddlebox: apt-cache policy lame
[12:58] <ubuntu> Hi all i have a question, installing from the ubuntu new CD 6.06, and i only have 1 partition at this time and do not want to loose my Windows partition ( i know.. ) can i use the "resize" option and not loose my windows? ?????
[12:58] <GregAsche> Okay, in Ubuntu I created 5 FAT32 partitions spread accross 3 drives, but only two of them register when I boot to Windows. Any idea what's up?
[12:58] <mag> help me !!! how can I use limewire or frotwire runing compiz and XGL
[12:58] <crimsun> cap10morgan: it's broken for now. That belongs in #ubuntu+1
[12:58] <ubuntu> whats broken
[12:58] <riddlebox> crimsun, lame: Installed: (none)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: edgy is broken
[12:58] <crimsun> riddlebox: then you don't have the correct repo enabled.
[12:58] <Nobbs> ohoy
[12:58] <cap10morgan> crimsun: cool, thanks for the info
[12:59] <ubuntu> what is edgy
[12:59] <mag> yes what is edgy ?
[12:59] <kalosaurusrex> edgy is still in dev...
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: next ubuntu release
[12:59] <Nobbs> Is there a way to assign an icon to a filetype in Gnome? (Dapper)
[12:59] <dli> ubuntu, parted can resize ntfs
[12:59] <mag> ubuntu: what is edgy ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> kalosaurusrex: if you can call it that lol
[12:59] <rpedro> riddlebox: lame is in multiverse
[12:59] <JadeRobbins> dli: any hope?
[12:59] <crimsun> riddlebox: you're missing "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multiverse"
[12:59] <ubuntu> dli so i wont loose my windows stuff?
[12:59] <kalosaurusrex> gnomefreak: looked like lots of new stuff added today.  horray for alpha code!
[12:59] <crimsun> riddlebox: note that dapper-backports is NOT dapper
[12:59] <smax> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/74366
[01:00] <gnomefreak> kalosaurusrex: yeah a few things
[01:00] <riddlebox> crimsun, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper multivers
[01:00] <riddlebox> ahh
[01:00] <ubuntu> dli  ? yes no ?
[01:00] <Ackeubu_> crimsun i can jsut locate teh /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 but i need the /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so???
[01:00] <riddlebox> crimsun, http://pastebin.ca/74368
[01:01] <dli> JadeRobbins, do you mean it's hidden?
[01:01] <crimsun> smax: ``uname -r''
[01:01] <dli> JadeRobbins, you can cd to a hidden folder
[01:01] <crimsun> smax: and I'll need ``cat /proc/interrupts'' pastebinned
[01:01] <Ackeubu_> crimsun and i have both lame and  liblame0 installed!!
[01:01] <tanlaan>  dli: so in what way should i add it to the startup programs?
[01:01] <crimsun> Ackeubu_: then install liblame0-dev
[01:01] <smax> crimsun 2.6.12-9-386
[01:02] <crimsun> smax: you're still using Breezy (5.10)?
[01:02] <smax> no
[01:02] <crimsun> smax: that's Breezy's kernel original kernel. You're out of date.
[01:02] <dli> tanlaan, strange, still asking for what?
[01:02] <smax> crimsun i updated via internet
[01:02] <Nobbs> I have a bunch of *.cbr files, and a program is assigned to open them (comix)... but still they have the default gnome icon. How do I change the icon for this file type?
[01:02] <JadeRobbins> dli: it's not hidden, it's corrupt. i CANT cd into it
[01:02] <Warbo> smax: You need to reboot to use a newer kernel
[01:02] <GregAsche> Okay, in Ubuntu I created 5 FAT32 partitions spread accross 3 drives, but only two of them register when I boot to Windows. Any idea what's up?
[01:02] <dli> JadeRobbins, which fs? ext3 ?
[01:02] <smax> don't worry i reboot
[01:02] <crimsun> Ackeubu_: sorry, that would be liblame-dev
[01:02] <crimsun> !info liblame-dev
[01:02] <riddlebox> crimsun, thank you so much now I can do apt-get build-dep mythtv! and compile it myself
[01:02] <ubotu> liblame-dev: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 168 kB, installed size 464 kB
[01:03] <ubuntu> i hope what i did does not mean i have to reinstall windows... looked a little strange.......
[01:03] <Warbo> GregAsche: Are any in "extended" partitions? They might not show up
[01:03] <tanlaan> dli: ok i dont get what i need to do in the Startup programs section
[01:03] <ubuntu>  is 6.06 edgy?
[01:03] <smax> crimsun i have usplash and so on like in dapper
[01:03] <crimsun> ubuntu: no, that's Dapper.
[01:03] <ubuntu> oh ok
[01:03] <tanlaan> dli: i know that i need to click add program...but then what do i need to select?
[01:03] <crimsun> smax: but you're using an old kernel.
[01:03] <ubuntu> this is a nice new little install/livecd thing going on
[01:03] <crimsun> smax: so. ``sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade''
[01:03] <Ackeubu_> crimsun thanks a bunch
[01:03] <crimsun> Ackeubu_: np
[01:03] <dli> tanlaan, gnome-session-properties ?
[01:03] <Ackeubu_> crimsun thanks alot
[01:03] <crimsun> riddlebox: np
[01:04] <`underOATH> is ubuntu good enough to handle a hlds server with metamod and lots of crazy plugins ?
[01:04] <JadeRobbins> dli: yes ext3
[01:04] <tanlaan> dli: what?
[01:04] <ubuntu> only monkeys can do that
[01:04] <ubuntu> underOATH
[01:04] <dobblego> crimsun, sorry, network problems, the upgrade command caused a segmentation fault: http://rafb.net/paste/results/nH5MPD88.html
[01:04] <dli> JadeRobbins, boot a livecd, and run fsck
[01:04] <smax> crimsun but on this kernel this sound worked fine!
[01:04] <dli> tanlaan, you can Add
[01:04] <tanlaan> dli: well the thing i want to add, is a shell script
[01:05] <Dial_tone> I misconfigured compwiz/xgl so I'm gonna try again when I get home
[01:05] <crimsun> smax: and that kernel is incompatible with Dapper's udev!
[01:05] <facerape> ok who wants free porn?
[01:05] <crimsun> facerape: cut it
[01:05] <facerape> im in a generouse mood
[01:05] <tanlaan> dli: its a shell script that starts up my program
[01:05] <dli> tanlaan, whatever, it's a command
[01:05] <Jack_Sparrow> facerape: did you get it going
[01:05] <facerape> crimsun: sending
[01:05] <tanlaan> dli: so should i add the shell script? or what
[01:05] <crimsun> take the offtopic crap out of here now.
[01:06] <Blinocac200sx> This is gonna sound stupid, but I forgot how to boot from a CD with my mac
[01:06] <facerape> jack: yeah its installing to the hdd as i speak
[01:06] <smax> crimsun i started dist-upgrade but no kernel upgrade there
[01:06] <Jack_Sparrow> great
[01:06] <dobblego> crimsun, should I restart GNOME and retry it with the 2.8.18 version perhaps?
[01:06] <facerape> crimsun: you gonna accept or what?
[01:06] <ubuntu> crimsun lol last time i was in this channel crimsun you were a linux noob...
[01:06] <Warbo> tanlaan: Scripts can be added to startup/login but they don't work if there is a space in the path (that's my experience)
[01:06] <Nobbs> According to the Gnome documentation there's a thing called File Types and Programs.... where?
[01:06] <dli> tanlaan, there's a Help there! just test it
[01:07] <tanlaan> ok ill try it :P
[01:07] <GregAsche> Warbo: What do you mean extended partitions?
[01:07] <cartesian1984> Blinocac200sx: You press apple+c or something at boot. Google for boot mac key combinations or something.
[01:07] <Blinocac200sx> ok
[01:07] <cartesian1984> Blinocac200sx: sorry, I don't remember...
[01:07] <Blinocac200sx> thats allright, it's commin back to me
[01:07] <Blinocac200sx> it's just been so long since I did it
[01:07] <crimsun> smax: ``sudo apt-get install linux-image-386''
[01:08] <cartesian1984> Say...is it possible to get direct rendering with the open source ATI driver on a radeon X300?
[01:08] <ubuntu> yes
[01:08] <Warbo> GregAsche: DOD-type harddrives (PC ones, unless you use BSD) can only have up to 4 partitions. However, you can add more by creating an "extended" partition, then create more logical partitions inside that. This is done transparently in Ubuntu, but Windows doesn't really support it
[01:08] <Warbo> DOS-type, sorry
[01:08] <ubuntu> but you have to sacrafice your first born...
[01:08] <cartesian1984> ubuntu: I'm cool with it.
[01:09] <Nobbs> I have a bunch of *.cbr files, and a program is assigned to open them (comix)... but still they have the default gnome icon. How do I change the icon for this file type?
[01:09] <Nobbs> Is this really a tricky thing to do in Nautilus?
[01:09] <ubuntu> actually its very hard, i used to have a laptop with that vid card in it... and lemme tell you... omg just hang yourself now
[01:09] <ubuntu> now  i have a Nvid Quadro NVS 120m
[01:09] <GregAsche> Warbo: I don't really get it, but I don't think I am, as Windows can see that the partitons are there and that they are FAT32, but it won't assign them a letter
[01:10] <GregAsche> or is that an indication that they are extended?
[01:10] <cartesian1984> ubuntu: They say the ones in laptops are difficult to configure, its even worse with the desktop variant..
[01:10] <ubuntu> nah
[01:10] <smax> crimsun after instaling new kernel my sound should be work?
[01:10] <ubuntu> i found the desktop more difficult
[01:10] <crimsun> smax: is it installing 2.6.15-25-386?
[01:10] <frajata> hola todos
[01:10] <ubuntu> the laptop one is cut and dry
[01:10] <cartesian1984> ubuntu: I had it with fglrx drivers, but those are buggy.
[01:11] <ubuntu> just smash it with a hammer and get an nvidea
[01:11] <ubuntu> nvidia*
[01:11] <Nobbs> A Mse once bit my sister ...
[01:11] <ubuntu> nice face.. how did you get unbanned?
[01:11] <smax> crimsun it say that my version it good
[01:11] <crimsun> smax: what does that mean?
[01:11] <dli> cartesian1984, I'm using the quite crappy open source nv driver now :( I heard ati open source driver is better, but still stay away from nvidia/ati, if you can
[01:11] <Ackeubu_> crimsun thank you so much you saved my day. >)
[01:11] <Ackeubu_> byr
[01:11] <Ackeubu_> bye
[01:12] <LuisMendes> anyone used ipod shuffle on dapper?
[01:12] <JadeRobbins> dli: what if i need to fsck a drive othher than the primary one?
[01:12] <smax> crimsun it don't want update kernel
[01:12] <cartesian1984> dli: Are there any decent cards with open source drivers that work?
[01:12] <dli> JadeRobbins, fsck all :(
[01:12] <ubuntu> NVIDIA!
[01:12] <crimsun> smax: pastebin the entire command you're using and the output
[01:12] <Celeste> does anyone have a "server file"  for amule which is good?
[01:12] <Nobbs> Mynd you, mse bites Kan be pretty nasti...
[01:12] <dli> JadeRobbins, if you have no idea how it messed up, time to backup personal data now
[01:12] <frajata> alguien sabe como instalar epson stylus1500
[01:12] <tanlaan> adding the script to startup didnt work
[01:13] <smax> crimsun you don't understand because it's on russian
[01:13] <JadeRobbins> dli: how do i fsck hde1?
[01:13] <cartesian1984> ubuntu: Yeah, I knew nvidia, I was wondering about the other companies. All I ever hear about is ATI/nVidia.
[01:13] <tanlaan> actually wait...
[01:13] <Warbo> GregAsche: Are there any partitions with a number 5 or more that you are trying to use?
[01:13] <JadeRobbins> dli: fsck /dev/hde1?
[01:13] <tanlaan> apparently it deleted it
[01:13] <crimsun> smax: $LANG doesn't matter
[01:13] <ubuntu> thats pretty much it cart
[01:13] <mikedouglas> Is there a edgy channel?
[01:13] <Warbo> GregAsche: (in Ubuntu, like /dev/sda7 or something)
[01:13] <ubuntu> ubuntu+1
[01:13] <mikedouglas> ubuntu: thanks
[01:13] <crimsun> dobblego: ``uname -a''
[01:13] <[A] ndy80> hey boys!
[01:14] <[A] ndy80> a good news :)
[01:14] <ubuntu> lol face how you et unbanned?
[01:14] <dli> JadeRobbins, if you don't care about data loss, " e2fsck -f -y /dev/hde1 "
[01:14] <[A] ndy80> Skype 1.3 is out :P
[01:14] <GregAsche> Warbo: NO
[01:14] <dobblego> crimsun, Linux fjr 2.6.15-25-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:25:49 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:14] <[A] ndy80> ALSA support!! yeah :)
[01:14] <GregAsche> er, no
[01:14] <LuisMendes> anyone used ipod shuffle on dapper?
[01:14] <smax> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/74383
[01:14] <Warbo> GregAsche: Then I don't know the problem (it seems like a Windows paroblem)
[01:14] <crimsun> dobblego: is Ubuntu running on an amd64 cpu, or is it actually ia32?
[01:15] <GregAsche> gah
[01:15] <GregAsche> thanks for your help
[01:15] <dobblego> crimsun, ia32
[01:15] <riddlebox> apt-get installs everything in /usr right?
[01:15] <JadeRobbins> ug this pisses me off because i'm SURE it's just a screwed up directory pointer and the data is all there
[01:15] <Nobbs> What's the name of the program that handles all the back-end stuff of Gnome again? Not gnome-conf but.... arrgh...
[01:15] <crashzor> Nobbs, mean xorg
[01:15] <smax> crimsun my dist-upgrade think that i have new kernel
[01:15] <Warbo> riddlebox: Important system stuff is in / (/bin, /sbin) and all configs are in /etc
[01:16] <Nobbs> crashzor: nope, not that one
[01:16] <uXp> help installing vnc for ubuntu osmeone
[01:16] <crimsun> dobblego: there's definitely something broken with libc6
[01:16] <Warbo> Nobbs: gconf2
[01:16] <riddlebox> Warbo, if I am compiling from source I should do ./configure --prefix=/usr right?
[01:16] <BSoDirl> has anyone had a problem with symlinks not saving in breezy?
[01:16] <uXp> !vnc
[01:16] <crimsun> dobblego: you can boot from a live cd and verify that everything works properly?
[01:16] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[01:16] <dobblego> crimsun, excuse my noobness, but I'm not sure what that means
[01:16] <erick> #ubuntu-es
[01:16] <dobblego> crimsun, I'll have to look around for a live CD then get back to you
[01:16] <Nobbs> gconf-editor is the one I'm looking for.. thanks :P
[01:16] <Warbo> riddlebox: I wouldn't, since I like to keep my packages and custom builds seperate
[01:17] <uXp> !freenx
[01:17] <crimsun> smax: ls /boot/vmlinuz*
[01:17] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[01:17] <BSoDirl> i changed my kernel image/headers/rest. modules to k7, and now my '/dev/536ep0 /dev/modem' link will never ever save.
[01:17] <BSoDirl> :*[
[01:17] <smax> crimsun /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-386
[01:17] <BSoDirl> reinstalled the modem too, can't be that.
[01:17] <Warbo> riddlebox: Stuff in /usr/local can use all of the libraries and stuff that are in /usr, so I would not recommend installing to /usr. However, I would recommend using checkinstall instead of make install
[01:17] <dobblego> crimsun, I don't have a Ubuntu live CD handy
[01:18] <crimsun> smax: reboot into 2.6.15-25-386, and we'll continue troubleshooting
[01:18] <Nobbs> Is it impossible to assign an icon to a file type in Nautilus?
[01:18] <crimsun> dobblego: please download one, and use it to test
[01:18] <dobblego> crimsun, will do, I'll get back to you later (perhaps an hour?)
[01:18] <Warbo> Nobbs: That is in the MIME database. I think it is /usr/share/shared-mime-info or something
[01:18] <BSoDirl> anyone help me?
[01:18] <erick> #ubuntu-mx
[01:18] <crimsun> facerape: you weren't devoiced, you were muzzled. Off-topic discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic, NOT in here.
[01:18] <BSoDirl> i outlined my problem above.
[01:19] <smax> crimsun What should i change in grup to reboot with another kernel
[01:19] <anto9us> Nobbs, right click a document of that type, select properties, click the icon in that dialog, you can select a custom one there
[01:19] <Nobbs> Warbo: Ah, that should get me somewhere.. thanks
[01:19] <Dapallo> hey, I just installed the latest Gaimn version with Synaptic Package Manager, but everytime I start Gaim, its still the older version.  What do I need to do
[01:19] <salah> which program should I use for taking backup of a VCD?
[01:19] <crimsun> smax: just choose the 2.6.15-25-386 kernel in the grub menu
[01:19] <Warbo> anto9us: That is just for that one file, not the whole filetype
[01:19] <Nobbs> anto9us: Nope, that just changes the icon for that one file, I need all files with a certain extension to change
[01:19] <BSoDirl> hello?
[01:19] <crimsun> smax: do you also use nvidia/fglrx drivers?
[01:19] <elie> sup
[01:19] <Dapallo> anyone?
[01:19] <elie> i have a little problem here,any1 can help plz?
[01:20] <rpedro> salah: gnomebaker
[01:20] <smax> crimsun there no such kernel in grub menu. No i don't use nvidia
[01:20] <elie>  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:20] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[01:20] <BSoDirl> I upgraded my kernel image/headers/etc to the K7 ones, I have an intel 536ep modem that I installed earlier, and now my symlink from /dev/536ep0 to /dev/modem never saves upon shutdown.
[01:20] <Ro1> !ask
[01:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:20] <uXp> i need help installing freeNX anyone?
[01:20] <Dapallo> I just installed the latest Gaimn version with Synaptic Package Manager, but everytime I start Gaim, its still the older version.  What do I need to do
[01:20] <BSoDirl> I have to type 'ln /dev/536ep0 /dev/modem' everytime I reboot. :[
[01:20] <crashzor> Dapallo, how you know its the old version ???
[01:20] <elie>  error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:20] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[01:20] <Dapallo> becuase I go to the About menu, and it says 1.2.1
[01:21] <Warbo> elie: Maybe installing libvorbis-dev (or something similar) would help
[01:21] <brizola> can anybody help with xorg.conf configuration for a 17'' 1280X1024 ??? PVT please....
[01:21] <crashzor> Dapallo, gaim -version in console plz
[01:21] <crimsun> smax: you don't have an 2.6.15 entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[01:21] <smax> crimsun what should i change in grub
[01:21] <crashzor> Dapallo, or --version ;)
[01:21] <crimsun> any, rather
[01:21] <Warbo> brizola: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:21] <viper550> This is a pretty cool thing I think 6.10 should have: http://beatnik.infogami.com/Gimmie
[01:21] <salah> rpedro, no, it's not doing the job...
[01:21] <crimsun> viper550: add it to the candidate list, then.
[01:21] <Dapallo> 1.2.1
[01:21] <viper550> Where that be?
[01:21] <Dapallo> crashzor: 1.2.1
[01:22] <crashzor> notice it ;)
[01:22] <Dapallo> ok
[01:22] <crashzor> let met think for a sec :P
[01:22] <crimsun> viper550: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New
[01:22] <Dapallo> k
[01:22] <BSoDirl> can anyone hear me at all?
[01:22] <crashzor> Dapallo, you installed 1,5,0 i think ?
[01:22] <BSoDirl> my problem which I've mentioned several times : " I have to type 'ln /dev/536ep0 /dev/modem' everytime I reboo"
[01:22] <Dapallo> yes
[01:22] <davids> hi everyone
[01:22] <Dapallo> no, wait
[01:22] <Dapallo> one sec
[01:22] <nu2ubuntu> hello
[01:22] <crimsun> smax: you need an entry for the new 2.6.15-25-386 kernel. Installing it should have created it for you. Did it not?
[01:23] <brizola> Warbo: only that???
[01:23] <crashzor> BSoDirl, yes but thing is not like a hel desk we don't try to help if we don't know ;) many try to inset it in the boot script or sameting like
[01:24] <BSoDirl> ok that'd be fine crashzor , but where "is" the boot script?
[01:24] <gavagai> how do i share my printer?
[01:24] <nu2ubuntu> i am new to ubuntu and i was wondering if it is possible to dualboot with my existing installation of windows easily
[01:24] <rpedro> salah: try graveman, or k3b
[01:24] <Warbo> brizola: That set up my 17" monitor with 1280x1024 resolution (along with loads of others I have tried)
[01:24] <Dapallo> crashzor: Synaptic Package Manager says the latest version is 1.2.1-1.4 and it used to be 1.2.1-1.1
[01:24] <BSoDirl> ....in breezy?
[01:24] <gavagai> i tried putting the printer's name in 'add printer' thing in windows, it doesn't find it
[01:24] <BSoDirl> n2ubuntu you should be able to just fine.
[01:24] <crashzor> Dapallo, dan it just did update i think
[01:24] <crashzor> BSoDirl, 20 sec plz need to look it up
[01:24] <Warbo> Dapallo: Package versions are not necissarly program versions. Updates may contain the same version, but packaged a little better
[01:25] <Dapallo> oh, okay.
[01:25] <BSoDirl> ty crashzor: everyone else is ignoring me.
[01:25] <davids> can anybody help me? (wifi connection)
[01:25] <kalosaurusrex> !helpme
[01:25] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:25] <nu2ubuntu> thanks
[01:25] <nu2ubuntu> i think ill go do that
[01:25] <smax> crimsun i have two ubuntu on hard drive. i don't understand what in grub i used lilo befor ubuntu
[01:25] <davids> ok ubotu :)
[01:26] <nu2ubuntu> i just had to make sure that i didnt erase windows :P
[01:26] <Dapallo> well, actaully, I have another question.  I installed Audactiy, but it gives me some Audio I/O error, are there any drivers I need to download?
[01:26] <Flashq009> what command do I use to decompress a *.tar   file?
[01:26] <crimsun> smax: then you need to tell lilo about the new kernel.
[01:26] <crimsun> Dapallo: does regular sound work?
[01:26] <Dapallo> yes
[01:26] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: just plain tar?
[01:26] <Warbo> nu2ubuntu: Just read the options carefully, don't just "next, next, next, next....."
[01:26] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: No gz?
[01:26] <Flashq009> ok will try it now
[01:26] <crimsun> Dapallo: then all you need to do is uncheck System> Preferences> Sound> Enable software sound mixing (ESD)
[01:27] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: oh, no, I mean the extension,
[01:27] <crimsun> Dapallo: and make sure all other audio apps are closed.
[01:27] <uXp> anyone here use VNC?
[01:27] <Dapallo> ok
[01:27] <PacketScan> uXp, yar
[01:27] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: Its tar -xf file.tar if its just .tar.
[01:27] <styles> is there a faq on reinstating ubuntus root user
[01:27] <Flashq009> ok I will try it again
[01:27] <crimsun> smax: does Ubuntu on your install boot using grub or lilo?
[01:27] <smax> crimsun http://pastebin.ca/74396 my grub
[01:27] <uXp> PacketScan:  can you help me install it?  can i use it like this, view my ubuntu desktop from windows?
[01:27] <Warbo> cartesian1984: -xf will do bz2 and gzip as well, it detects them
[01:27] <Dapallo> umm, there is no Enable software sound mizing
[01:27] <Stormx2> Can't play WMV... what gives? I have w32codecs...
[01:28] <Dapallo> mixing*
[01:28] <cartesian1984> Warbo: oh, I didn't know that.
[01:28] <cartesian1984> Stormx2: What media player?
[01:28] <Warbo> Dapallo: "killall esd"
[01:28] <davids> well, my wifi connection is now working, but randomly it crush. Ubuntu sometimes stop the usb device (dwl-122; prism2_usb) and "ifdown wlan0","ifup wlan0" don't work. any idea?
[01:28] <crimsun> smax: right, choose the top one.
[01:28] <Stormx2> cartesian1984: Totem
[01:28] <crimsun> smax: --->  Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.15-25-386
[01:28] <cartesian1984> Stormx2: Ok, just a sec.
[01:28] <crashzor> BSoDirl, make a new file put into /etc/rc5.d and start using S99 dat woud work i think
[01:28] <elie> anyway 2 play wmv9?
[01:28] <cartesian1984> Stormx2: sudo apt-get install totem-xine libxine-extracodecs
[01:28] <cartesian1984> I think thats it.
[01:28] <crimsun> crashzor: runlevel 2 is our default.
[01:28] <BSoDirl> *thinks*
[01:28] <Flashq009> cartesian1984: it worked ... thank you.
[01:28] <Dapallo> ok, thanks you crimsun and Warbo
[01:29] <Stormx2> cartesian1984: Cheers!
[01:29] <BSoDirl> what's S99 do?
[01:29] <tanlaan> how can you stack commands in terminal?
[01:29] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: No problem. Warbo had a better way.
[01:29] <smax> crimsun which one booting not from hda1?
[01:29] <crashzor> crimsun, how you mean runlevel 2 is default ?
[01:29] <Flashq009> whats a better way?
[01:29] <Warbo> elie: I installed the Nemo codec pack in WINE and copied all of the files it installed to /usr/lib/codecs and now MPlayer can play pretty much anything
[01:29] <crimsun> crashzor: Debian-based distros don't differentiate between init 2 and init 5 by default
[01:29] <crashzor> BSoDirl, S99 run it as last think there is it runs them on nummer order
[01:29] <crimsun> crashzor: they're identical
[01:29] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: just -xf for bzip or gzip. It will autodetect.
[01:29] <Flashq009> cool good to know
[01:29] <BSoDirl> touch foo, sh -c "echo ln /dev/536ep /dev/modem >> foo"?
[01:29] <kalosaurusrex> tanlaan: you mean like, ls | grep <filename>
[01:29] <cartesian1984> Flashq009: Well, tar -xf, you know the score.
[01:29] <Flashq009> than you again
[01:29] <styles> is there a faq out there that shows how to reinstate ubuntu's admin account?
[01:30] <Flashq009> oops thank you again
[01:30] <crashzor> crimsun, i think it das same thinks we i switch from init 3 to init 5
[01:30] <tanlaan> that might be what im looking for
[01:30] <BSoDirl> aha ty crashzor Ill try that
[01:30] <elie> how 2 get wine?
[01:30] <crimsun> BSoDirl: I recommend you create the symlink in /etc/rc.local.
[01:30] <BSoDirl> /etc/rc.5/?
[01:30] <stevekl> Is there a way to display CPU temperature in the notification area in gnome?
[01:30] <crimsun> BSoDirl: put it /before/ the "exit 0"
[01:30] <tanlaan> well in my case i want do a cd and then run a shell script
[01:30] <stevekl> (like next to the clock)
[01:30] <BSoDirl> i didnt see rc.local "looks again"
[01:30] <Warbo> styles: Go into recover mode and run "adduser <usernametobecomeadmin> admin" then reboot
[01:30] <crimsun> BSoDirl: no, don't use /etc/rc5.d/ . We don't play runlevel games.
[01:30] <tanlaan> and i need to stack commands because i want to just make a launcher
[01:30] <BSoDirl> ahh good brb
[01:30] <crimsun> smax: I don't understand what you just said
[01:31] <crashzor> crimsun, becausly if you creat it there it probley wil work out it wil find in on its own its less hackis
[01:31] <talon218> i'm having a problem with sceen res.  I'm stuck on the lowest setting and i can't change it using the screen res utility
[01:31] <BSoDirl> it aint gonna hurt to make a new rc.local is it?
[01:31] <styles> Warbo, will that make it run like other distrobutions where u need an admin account to do everything?
[01:31] <smax> crimsone I have 2 Ubuntu on one hard drive first is not this system
[01:31] <crimsun> crashzor: by default the /correct/ place to place things like that is /etc/rc.local
[01:31] <davids> my wifi connection is now working, but randomly it crush. Ubuntu sometimes stop the usb device (dwl-122; prism2_usb) and "ifdown wlan0","ifup wlan0" don't work. any idea?
[01:31] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:31] <crashzor> BSoDirl, cd /etc/ then find -name rc.local usefull we can search are systems ;)
[01:31] <talon218> can anyone help me out with the screen res??
[01:32] <tanlaan> dammit that | didnt work
[01:32] <elie> warbo that didnt helped any other ideas>
[01:32] <crashzor> crimsun, realy never know dat woud same me creating a lot of file then ;)
[01:32] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:32] <BSoDirl> crashzor,  nothin
[01:32] <smax> crimsun I have 2 Ubuntu on one hard drive first is not this system
[01:32] <cartesian1984> talon218: What's your graphics card/supported resolution etc?
[01:32] <crimsun> smax: do you mean you have two different Ubuntu installations on two different root partitions?
[01:32] <Warbo> styles: Ubuntu lets users in the "admin" group run system admin stuff with "sudo commandname". If you accidentaly removed yourself from admin, or deleted all of the admin users, then that command will add the user "usernametobecomeadmin" back into the admin group, so they canonce again do administrator stuff
[01:32] <hyphenated> ubotu: tell talon218 about resolution
[01:32] <BSoDirl> surely the system will read rc.local if i create it though right?
[01:32] <smax> crimsun yes
[01:32] <tanlaan> how can i run a shell script in a launcher?
[01:32] <crashzor> crimsun, were is rc.local hiding today ?
[01:32] <BSoDirl> tanlaan, sudo <script>
[01:32] <PMantis> my laptop is really slow, unless I wiggle the mouse or tap a key on the keyboard. Gnome animation, Ekiga SIP call, Flash, etc. All is slow/choppy unless I wiggle the mouse. Ideas?
[01:32] <Ro1> !resolution talkon218
[01:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about resolution talkon218
[01:33] <crimsun> crashzor: /etc/rc.local in Dapper.
[01:33] <styles> i just want root to do admin stuff, and users to do users stuff
[01:33] <BSoDirl> oh wait, gksudo <script>
[01:33] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:33] <Warbo> tanlaan: Make a launcher which has the full path to the script in the "command" box
[01:33] <viper550> I see Gimmie has some python dependencies
[01:33] <crashzor> crimsun, there is no file there ;)
[01:33] <crimsun> BSoDirl: then use /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:33] <XVampireX> viper550, gimmie is written in python
[01:33] <talon218> hello??
[01:33] <cartesian1984> PMantis: ok, there are a few things that could be.
[01:33] <BSoDirl> AHH ty brb
[01:33] <smax> crimsun and newer kernel is on another installation
[01:33] <dli> tanlaan, type in filename in gnome-session-properties , make sure you type in full path also
[01:33] <Dapallo> hey crimsun, its not giving me that error anymore, but it wont record anything now
[01:33] <cartesian1984> PMantis: Hrm....let me think...
[01:33] <cartesian1984> PMantis: How's your graphics card supported?
[01:34] <viper550> ISN'T IT IRONIC! I forget, did Ubuntu come with Python packahes?
[01:34] <crimsun> smax: those two kernels, according to the paste you showed me, are in the same /
[01:34] <tanlaan> dli: where do i access gnome-session-properties?
[01:34] <KuLover> What does it mean when I try to sudo and it says that sudoers is in 0660 and should be in 0440?
[01:34] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Where do I start? heh. I went from Breezy to Dapper beta, to full dapper. Somewhere alone the line, is started acting up.
[01:34] <tanlaan> dli: in the session thing i couldnt access it
[01:34] <elie> how 2 get wine?
[01:34] <crimsun> Dapallo: make sure you've unmuted the 'Capture' element and set it to a non-zero level
[01:34] <viper550> sudo apt-get install wine
[01:34] <uXp> !wine
[01:34] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:34] <dli> tanlaan, type in a terminal: gnome-session-properties
[01:34] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:34] <Warbo> elie: In synaptic
[01:34] <crimsun> Dapallo: also you need to select which element to actually record
[01:34] <BSoDirl> viper550: took me almost 3 hrs to dl wine :)
[01:34] <uXp> can i use a windows desktop to acces ubuntu through vnc?
[01:34] <BSoDirl> with the fonts and all..
[01:35] <crimsun> Dapallo: you should be able to do all that via the mixer applet
[01:35] <viper550> Took me 3 minutes on Yum
[01:35] <Ro1> uxp: i suppose so
[01:35] <BSoDirl> you can BET I backed wine up on my usb stick
[01:35] <tanlaan> dli: ok
[01:35] <Dapallo> in Audacity?
[01:35] <jrib> uXp: yes
[01:35] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:35] <crimsun> Dapallo: in gnome.
[01:35] <cartesian1984> PMantis: Well, try doing glxgears -printfps, and see if its the video card. Also, you might be the victim of the gam_server memory leak. Do killall gam_server to resolve that.
[01:35] <smax> crimsun just a moment i reboot and check
[01:35] <XVampireX> Hi, I don't know if it's a problem with ubuntu sound or with VisualBoyAdvance, but whenever I try to play a rom (any rom), the game runs usually fine (Although in smaller screen it runs faster than needed), but the sound is not working very well.
[01:35] <crimsun> Dapallo: the volume control
[01:35] <Dapallo> okay.
[01:35] <crashzor> uXp, if you install a vnc server probley yes
[01:35] <BSoDirl> erm, I live in a very safe rural neighborhood once I get satellite I'll be set :D
[01:35] <tanlaan> dli: and i just add it to the startup programs?
[01:35] <Dapallo> i have capture unmuted
[01:35] <uXp> anyone here that can help me install VNC
[01:35] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???
[01:35] <uXp> i tried the howtis, don't work
[01:35] <AJR1> hey all
[01:35] <BSoDirl> oh btw yall, I did the dri.freedesktop crap and i still dont have 3d accel on my s3 prosavage8
[01:35] <BSoDirl> :|
[01:35] <crashzor> uXp, apt-cache search vnc-server or sameting like ;)
[01:35] <PacketScan> uXp, i'm not sure what you woudl need help with..   i'm always just installed and used it. not much configuration.
[01:35] <Ro1> anyone use powertweak? how do i get it to run?
[01:35] <PMantis> cartesian1984, lspci one liner: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:36] <AJR1> im living dangerously and installing ubuntu as my main OS :/ god help me
[01:36] <PacketScan> uXp, have you installed the packages needed?
[01:36] <uXp> wich
[01:36] <tanlaan> dli: because last time i tried it when i restarted it was automatically deleted :(
[01:36] <BSoDirl> all the files installed fine, just "no" DRI whatsoever.
[01:36] <pppoe_dude> uXp, can you be more specific?
[01:36] <BSoDirl> AJR1: I've booted into windows ONCE in 2 weeks.
[01:36] <viper550> I think Gimmie might be a perfect match for Ubuntu
[01:36] <Warbo> elie: If you want to do the Nemo thing I said then you may want to change the owner and group of the files in the fake windows directory that WINE creates, then you can use ls -l | grep yourusername to find out which files Nemo installed
[01:36] <AJR1> BSoDirl: really? enjoying ubuntu that much
[01:36] <uXp> Im trying to find out if i can acces my ubuntu from my dads laptop wich is windows
[01:36] <tanlaan> dli"ahh well ill try it anyways
[01:36] <XVampireX> viper550, indeed, gimmie is very good
[01:36] <BSoDirl> well, aside from a few quirks.
[01:36] <BSoDirl> it kinda likes my hw
[01:36] <cartesian1984> PMantis: All right...my xserver is broken ATM. I would check to be sure you have direct rendering first.
[01:36] <pppoe_dude> uXp, you can
[01:36] <XVampireX> I don't use it, I think it needs some concept rethinking, but it's good
[01:36] <BSoDirl> putty :)
[01:36] <uXp> ok
[01:37] <elie> k thnx
[01:37] <AJR1> BSoDirl: what you think of gaming on it?
[01:37] <stevekl> Is there a way to display CPU temperature in the notification area in gnome?
[01:37] <crashzor> uXp, just setup a vnc server and install vnc client on you'de day's laptop
[01:37] <viper550> I just can't install it because it requires a CVS version of "gnome-python-extras"
[01:37] <BSoDirl> there's a 2d directx MMORPG I run with wine and I want my DRI to work.
[01:37] <uXp> Can someone help me install the server? The howtos don't do much =[
[01:37] <WOLFdude> hey is ubuntu good?
[01:37] <cartesian1984> PMantis: normally I would google around for a intel Direct rendering guide.
[01:37] <BSoDirl> it works on puppy, im sure it can work in ubuntu somehow..
[01:37] <viper550> But it does look like a perfect match for Ubuntu, may be very useful!
[01:37] <uXp> WOLFdude:  yea, depends what yoiur looking for
[01:37] <AJR1> BSoDirl: nice one
[01:37] <AJR1> BSoDirl: im waiting to see what damage ive done to these partitions :P
[01:37] <pppoe_dude> uXp, run: vnc-server -geometry 800x600 -depth 16
[01:37] <Dial_tone> stevekl, probably not. try gdesklets
[01:37] <WOLFdude> i need to host websites
[01:37] <pppoe_dude> uXp, and replace your res.
[01:37] <AJR1> BSoDirl: do you know if i can easily re allocate all these stupid partitions ive created
[01:38] <elie> i get :
[01:38] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[01:38] <BSoDirl> I did the recommended dri.freedesktop.org installs on ubuntuforums.org, everything seems to have installed fine
[01:38] <elie> ./ssam_lnx: error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:38] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[01:38] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[01:38] <WOLFdude> uxp: ?
[01:38] <Dapallo> how do i get audacity to record from my mic
[01:38] <stevekl> WOLFdude, wow that's so much information
[01:38] <pppoe_dude> uXp, it will ask for a password and give you  a link to connect to
[01:38] <PMantis> cartesian1984, ok: 3925 frames in 5.0 seconds = 784.890 FPS
[01:38] <BSoDirl> AJR1: hope so *crosses fingers*
[01:38] <XVampireX> Hi, I don't know if it's a problem with ubuntu sound or with VisualBoyAdvance, but whenever I try to play a rom (any rom), the game runs usually fine (Although in smaller screen it runs faster than needed), but the sound is not working very well.
[01:38] <PMantis> cartesian1984, without wiggling the mouse
[01:38] <PacketScan> uXp, open a console as root.
[01:38] <WOLFdude> i need to host websites
[01:38] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:38] <BSoDirl> but xdriinfo says "no direct rendering available" which total BS
[01:38] <cartesian1984> PMantis: Yeah, can't be the video card.
[01:38] <uXp> PacketScan:  ok now
[01:38] <AJR1> BSoDirl: crosses everything that can be crossed
[01:38] <AJR1> :P
[01:38] <pppoe_dude> PacketScan, uXp don't do vnc as root...
[01:38] <PacketScan> uXp, then "apt-get install vncserver"
[01:38] <crashzor> pppoe_dude, i did't know i coud change te reaslution i was alwase working at 640x480 whit is a bit ingoring sametimes ;)
[01:38] <BSoDirl> this DRI problem is making me steam.
[01:38] <pppoe_dude> PacketScan, nm
[01:38] <cartesian1984> PMantis: what window manager/DE?
[01:38] <PMantis> cartesian1984, $ sudo killall gam_server
[01:38] <PMantis> gam_server: no process killed
[01:38] <AJR1> guys do you know if its easy to put these partitions ive stupidly created back using fdisk or something?
[01:39] <WOLFdude> dtevekl: what?
[01:39] <cartesian1984> PMantis: oh well...
[01:39] <BSoDirl> cfdisk :)
[01:39] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Ubuntu default GDM/Gnome
[01:39] <pppoe_dude> crashzor, you can!
[01:39] <PacketScan> uXp, as pppoe said you never connect with vnc as root..  always a normal user account.
[01:39] <uXp> PacketScan:  ok done
[01:39] <AJR1> BSoDirl: cfdisk?
[01:39] <cartesian1984> PMantis: ok, run gnome-system-monitor
[01:39] <mag> could you recomend me some java bases, because some programs doesn't work for me with sun java ! I have compiz and XGL  ! please help me ! :(
[01:39] <BSoDirl> it's easier.
[01:39] <AJR1> BSoDirl: run in win or ubu?
[01:39] <uXp> PacketScan:  um k
[01:39] <PacketScan> uXp, have you installed the vnc viewer on the windows machine?
[01:39] <BSoDirl> ubuntu
[01:39] <crashzor> pppoe_dude, yes dat is probley were the  v-geometry 800x600 stands for
[01:39] <BSoDirl> ...i think ubuntu has cfdisk
[01:39] <AJR1> BSoDirl: ok theres a huge huge huge problem though lol
[01:39] <WOLFdude> please hel[
[01:39] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:39] <uXp> I will when i get home in a few mins
[01:39] <uXp> have to drive there
[01:39] <Warbo> Is there any way I can close down X without interrupting a program running in a GNOME terminal?
[01:39] <AJR1> BSoDirl: i have no net access yet and will somehow need to config my usb adapter
[01:39] <BSoDirl> yep ubuntu has cfdisk
[01:39] <uXp> thats why im trying ot do this real quick
[01:39] <PMantis> cartesian1984, with sudo?
[01:40] <pppoe_dude> uXp, just save the display number
[01:40] <PacketScan> uXp, when you get there let me know.
[01:40] <pppoe_dude> uXp, thats the number after the ':'
[01:40] <cartesian1984> PMantis: nah, not necessary.
[01:40] <BSoDirl> hehe, I had to compile my modem driver to get access.. you KNOW that sucked.
[01:40] <WOLFdude> hello?
[01:40] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:40] <pppoe_dude> uXp, its probably 1
[01:40] <AJR1> BSoDirl: yeah that defo sucks
[01:40] <Dapallo> could some one hlep
[01:40] <WOLFdude> PLEASE HELP ME
[01:40] <AJR1> BSoDirl: im hoping i can get this wifi usb adap to work
[01:40] <Dapallo> lol
[01:40] <AJR1> BSoDirl: be hell to pay if i cant
[01:40] <mag> could you recomend me some java bases, because some programs doesn't work for me with sun java ! I have compiz and XGL  ! please help me ! :(
[01:40] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Now, I have noticed that the cpu has been idling *MUCH* higher than normal since I left Breezy.
[01:40] <pppoe_dude> WOLFdude, Dapallo just ask your question
[01:40] <BSoDirl> AJR1: you can do that with ndiswrapper
[01:40] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Rarely idles down to 800Mhz
[01:40] <BSoDirl> its pretty koo
[01:41] <uXp> PacketScan:  i did the apt-get and it finished, now what
[01:41] <BSoDirl> bbl
[01:41] <Dapallo> i did, can some one help me with Audacity
[01:41] <AJR1> BSoDirl: any usb adapter? i have no xperience with ndiswrap
[01:41] <Warbo> Is there any way I can close down X without interrupting a program running in a GNOME terminal?
[01:41] <PacketScan> uXp, that's it
[01:41] <uXp> ooo
[01:41] <flosch> !restrictedformats
[01:41] <PacketScan> uXp, now it's installed and ready to use :d
[01:41] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:41] <uXp> PacketScan:  do i need the IP or anything?
[01:41] <pppoe_dude> Dapallo, that is not a question
[01:41] <flosch> !RestrictedFormat
[01:41] <cartesian1984> PMantis: hrm....ACPI issues maybe? I haven't got any experience with it I'm afraid..
[01:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about RestrictedFormat
[01:41] <flosch> !RestrictedFormats
[01:41] <flosch> mhm
[01:41] <Warbo> Dapallo: You tried running "killall esd" before loading Audacity?
[01:41] <Terminus> Warbo: if you screened the program, sure.
[01:41] <PacketScan> uXp, you need the ip of that machine yes.
[01:41] <Warbo> Terminus: Ermmmmm.........
[01:41] <uXp> PacketScan:  help me find it
[01:41] <PacketScan> uxp is it at work? behind a fiewall?
[01:41] <uXp> IPchicken.com?
[01:41] <pppoe_dude> uXp, you need to know your IP... and RUN vncserver from the remote first
[01:41] <Dapallo> i did.  that got rid of the error, but, It still wont record
[01:42] <pppoe_dude> uXp, 'ip addr'
[01:42] <AJR1> BSoDirl: omfg im 100% complete on ubuntu install lmfao! im sure im goin to regret this ... lol ah well its done now
[01:42] <cartesian1984> PMantis: what's the operating frequency of the processor?
[01:42] <uXp> no its just a desktop
[01:42] <smax> crimsun my boot menu is not in menu.lst it is in menu.lst~
[01:42] <PMantis> cartesian1984, 1.73 Ghz
[01:42] <Ro1> anyone know a good overclocking program for ubuntu
[01:42] <PacketScan> uXp, as root  "ifconfig"
[01:42] <Warbo> smax: That is a bckup file
[01:42] <XVampireX> Hi, I don't know if it's a problem with ubuntu sound or with VisualBoyAdvance, but whenever I try to play a rom (any rom), the game runs usually fine (Although in smaller screen it runs faster than needed), but the sound is not working very well.
[01:42] <PacketScan> uXp, what is the ip displayed?
[01:42] <Ro1> anyone know a good overclocking program for ubuntu
[01:42] <Warbo> Ro1: I just used my BIOS
[01:42] <Dapallo> Warbo: i did.  that got rid of the error, but, It still wont record
[01:42] <PMantis> cartesian1984, And it's full blash right now.. @77% CPU, and I only have XChat and gnome-system-monitor open
[01:42] <Ro1> my BIOS suck
[01:42] <uXp> PacketScan:  so many ips, don't know ich
[01:42] <smax> crimsun it boot's from backup file
[01:42] <Terminus> Warbo: i'm guessing you didn't use screen. can't you kill it and start it under screen? then you can terminate X. :)
[01:42] <cartesian1984> PMantis: I don't know....that definitely shouldn't be that high...
[01:42] <Warbo> Dapallo: Sorry, my microphone is crappy so I have never bothered trying
[01:43] <uXp> PacketScan:  is that the internet address?
[01:43] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:43] <Warbo> Terminus: It is a compression program which has been running for a while and has a while to go
[01:43] <Warbo> Terminus: Would ctrl-z stuff help?
[01:43] <pppoe_dude> uXp, www.whatismyip.com
[01:43] <crimsun> smax: ok, well, do whatever you need to do to boot 2.6.15-25-286
[01:43] <PacketScan> uXp, could be.. or could be your internal network address.
[01:43] <Flashq009> anyone know of a very good and up to date fully packed security tools kit for linux/ubuntu?
[01:43] <uXp> ok ill keep the IP in mind
[01:44] <eugman> You know when the zoom on the screen is too big for the monitor it will let you scroll around the screen by moving the mouse near the edge? How can I disab;e that?
[01:44] <uXp> im going to my dads now, i will be back in 30 mins
[01:44] <uXp> PacketScan:  do i need to open any ports?
[01:44] <Warbo> eugman: You can only enable one resolution in xorg.conf
[01:44] <Terminus> Warbo: i don't even know what ctrl-z is... the way i see it, you have to choices. either wait for it to finish and then kill X, or restart it under screen and then kill X.
[01:44] <smax> crimsun but in menu.lst~ there are no such kernel
[01:44] <AJR1> ok lol im booting into ubu from my hd master lol this could be messy :( can anyone explain how the hell i use ndiswrapper
[01:44] <cartesian1984> PMantis: I hate to say this...but have you considered doing a clean install of dapper?
[01:44] <Terminus> s/to/two/
[01:44] <PacketScan> uXp, that's what i was trying to gander but you are evading my questions.
[01:44] <PacketScan> brb
[01:44] <PMantis> cartesian1984, I'm tempted to reinstall the whole thing... but that *shouldn't* be necessary
[01:44] <PMantis> LOL
[01:44] <cartesian1984> Yeah...
[01:44] <uXp> PacketScan:  too many people talking to me sry
[01:44] <crimsun> smax: so cp menu.lst menu.lst~
[01:45] <uXp> PacketScan:  what you need
[01:45] <PMantis> cartesian1984, I think I'll try a live CD first... see how the CPU acts then.
[01:45] <cartesian1984> PMantis: good idea.
[01:45] <crimsun> smax: like I said, you know your system better than I do, so just make it boot 2.6.15-25-386
[01:45] <PMantis> But... I have lots of special configs here, and I don't want to loose that.
[01:45] <Dapallo> does anyone know why audacity wont record from my mic ???
[01:45] <Warbo> Terminus: I think pressing ctrl-z then typing "bg" will detach it from the terminal, like putting an & at the end, but I have had problems with &s before (programs closing when I close the terminal)
[01:45] <uXp> i did  the whatismyip and got an IP adress
[01:45] <gavagai> I have cupsys running as a service.  There is no firewall on the box.  I can ping the box from windows.  But i can't add my printer?  How do I add my ubuntu printer in windows?
[01:45] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Like encryption of some dirs...
[01:45] <eugman> Warbo, When I try to play a certain game though wine it'l enlarge the screen so the small size game looks fullscreen. The problem is i can mouse out of it. How do I stop that?
[01:45] <cartesian1984> PMantis: With what software? Truecrypt?
[01:46] <Terminus> Warbo: yeah... coz the process spawns as a child.
[01:46] <uXp> PacketScan:  dude??
[01:46] <PMantis> cartesian1984, If I was to reinstall, I'd want to create a special initrd that grabs a key from an SD card, and decrypts the HD before boot.
[01:46] <lostar4545> what program do i use to extrack  ace files
[01:46] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Heh, no EncFS (FUSE)
[01:46] <Kyral> unace!
[01:46] <Terminus> Warbo: maybe there's a way to make it an orphan. =D
[01:47] <pppoe_dude> PacketScan, go to #ubuntu-classroom
[01:47] <Warbo> eugman: That is nothing to do with ctrl-alt-+ stuff (in fact, ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt-- helps recover from it). It is a problem with some fullscreen things, which are actually running in a window but pretend to be fullscreen by zooming into a window (I find it mostly happens with dodgy games which crash X a lot)
[01:47] <smax> crimsun Can I boot now from lilo? I don't like grub i don't understand it
[01:47] <uXp> pppoe_dude:  y0
[01:47] <uXp> pppoe_dude:  what ports do i need open?
[01:47] <pppoe_dude> uXp, /join #ubuntu-classroom
[01:47] <uXp> for what
[01:47] <uXp> im trying ot do this ina hurry
[01:47] <uXp> before i go
[01:48] <pppoe_dude> uXp, this is how you do it in a hurry.. no noise there
[01:48] <cartesian1984> PMantis: Ah...I never was able to get that working. I'm about to reinstall myself, actually, as soon as I can get a CD. Messed up the xserver and I don't remember what I did exactly.
[01:48] <Warbo> Terminus: Well it says 12000 seconds remaining, which is about 3 hours I think
[01:48] <eugman> Warbo, well is there anything which can be done about the situation?
[01:48] <pppoe_dude> uXp, i told yo u how like 20 times
[01:48] <PMantis> cartesian1984, BBL... putting kids to bed now...
[01:48] <PacketScan> uXp, goto #ubuntu-classroom
[01:48] <Warbo> eugman: Nothing that I can think of, or else I would be running Gish right now
[01:48] <cartesian1984> PMantis: All right.
[01:48] <crimsun> smax: if you install (re)lilo and remove grub, sure
[01:48] <PMantis> cartesian1984, Thanks for trying to help.
[01:48] <AJR1> ok can anybody tell me where i find ndiswrapper inside of ubuntu?
[01:48] <cartesian1984> PMantis: Sorry I couldn't do more.
[01:48] <Terminus> Warbo: what are you compressing? don't tell me your ubuntu installation... from my previous experience, it's not worth the cpu cycles to compress the entire damn thing.
[01:49] <Warbo> Terminus: I'm making (another) LiveCD
[01:49] <bennyboy> AJR1, what are you tryin to do
[01:49] <Terminus> Warbo: oh... go to the coffee shop and come back in 3 hours. =D
[01:49] <AJR1> bennyboy: get my wireless usb adapter to work
[01:49] <Warbo> Terminus: But I have learnt to stay away from 7zip this time :)
[01:49] <bennyboy> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[01:50] <AJR1> bennyboy: ok done :)
[01:50] <Warbo> Terminus: Cool, know any coffe shops open at 1am? Maybe I'll just go to bed............ or probably not
[01:50] <AJR1> bennyboy: now what :P
[01:50] <bennyboy> ndisgtk
[01:50] <bennyboy> then select your driver
[01:50] <Terminus> Warbo: one time i was cloning drives and i thought bzip2 would let me save space. turns out it took just the same space as a tar archive. >_<
[01:50] <AJR1> bennyboy: ok it says "could not find  package"
[01:50] <AJR1> bennyboy: im on a laptop here and im on another machine with ubuntu that doesnt have wifi setup inside of ubuntu yet
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <XVampireX> Hi, I don't know if it's a problem with ubuntu sound or with VisualBoyAdvance, but whenever I try to play a rom (any rom), the game runs usually fine (Although in smaller screen it runs faster than needed), but the sound is not working very well.
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <aluno> oioi
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <aluno> oio
[01:51] <aluno> ioi
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <aluno> oio
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <__mikem> !ops
[01:51] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:51] <LoRez> Warning: `aluno' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[01:51] <aluno> oi
[01:52] <aluno> oi
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[01:52] <aluno> oi
[01:52] <ardchoille>  /ignore aluno
[01:52] <Warbo> Terminus: I tried to compare file sizes between compressors once, but couldn't be bothered to wait for 7zip's maximum compression (only about a 2MB file to be compressed). Oh well, I suppose I can just start again but with lower settings and hope it fits on the disc
[01:52] <AJR1> bennyboy any idea
[01:52] <AJR1> ?
[01:52] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:52] <elie> iany1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:52] <__mikem> Why do people like that exist
[01:52] <bennyboy> you have to download the package http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool%2Funiverse%2Fn%2Fndisgtk%2Fndisgtk_0.6-0ubuntu1_all.deb&md5sum=820f3a749abd2cb2d097c362103cd07e&arch=all&type=main
[01:52] <AJR1> bennyboy: how do i do that with no net access on ubuntu machine?
[01:52] <__mikem> What does he get out of doing that?
[01:53] <bennyboy> transfer it using a usb key or floppy or somethin
[01:53] <elie> i have 2 dn the package?
[01:53] <AJR1> bennyboy: oh ok
[01:53] <bennyboy> you will also need to download the ndiswrapper package
[01:53] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui app i can use to test the cpu overclock stability ???
[01:53] <ardchoille> __mikem: mentally sick people exist to balance out the rest of us
[01:53] <elie> bennyboy ru talking 2 me?
[01:53] <bennyboy> sorry that was to AJR1
[01:53] <__mikem> ardchoille so I hear :)
[01:54] <edu> __mikem: what people?
[01:54] <elie> k
[01:54] <Terminus> Warbo: maybe large compression jobs should have a dedicated box. or just pipe it to /dev/null. XD
[01:54] <__mikem> the spammer that was just booted
[01:54] <bennyboy> AJR1, it would be easier if you could hardwire to the internet as apt will automatically resolve depencies
[01:54] <edu> __mikem: uh, I see...
[01:54] <Terminus> s/pipe/redirect/
[01:55] <__mikem> Ill take half horse half man for 800
[01:55] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[01:55] <Warbo> Terminus: Well I am always one for speed, so if you'll excuse me I will start a new X server and connect to it from within a chroot based on a USB1 drive, restart my compression and get on with some vector based animation work. Oh yeah, and I'll stick AmaroK on too :)
[01:56] <edu> smb client doesn't work... it was working a few hours ago
[01:57] <Edvinas> where to find cookies?
[01:57] <SAM_theman> In firefox in ubuntu Dapper Drake is there a way to view foreign languages into english???
[01:57] <eugman> Is it possible to vnc a computer that has someone who can type commands into it but is behind a router without port forwarding set up?
[01:57] <dli> SAM_theman, what do you mean?
[01:57] <XVampireX> Someone help me, please
[01:58] <Edvinas> where to find cookies in firefox?
[01:58] <bennyboy> XVampireX, with what
[01:58] <SAM_theman> Like this site (http://perso.orange.fr/speedtiti/tutoriels.htm)
[01:58] <edu> I have Kubuntu installed... and now I wanna reinstall the whole system but from MY DESKTOP, I don't wanna boot from the CD...
[01:58] <kbrosnan> SAM_theman, there are several extensions that will send the page you are currently looking at to a translation service
[01:58] <XVampireX> Having problems with sound in VisualBoyAdvance
[01:58] <dli> eugman, I got the same question :)
[01:58] <edu> I have Kubuntu installed... and now I wanna reinstall the whole system but from MY DESKTOP, I don't wanna boot from the CD... HOW COULD I DO THAT?
[01:58] <XVampireX> I don't know where to ask :O
[01:58] <kbrosnan> Edvinas, cookies.txt in ~/.mozilla/firefox/
[01:59] <lostar4545> i just downloaded the latest unace from winace website and extracted it but it only  has a file called unace how do i  use it
[01:59] <parker`> I just moved from Fedora distros to Ubuntu and was just wondering what the Ubuntu equiv to yum exists
[01:59] <eugman> Now if only someone had the answer
[01:59] <bennyboy> apt-get
[01:59] <pppoe_dude> lostar4545, try typing unace --help
[01:59] <Cyorxamp> edu - how can you re-install what is currently in use? - think about it
[01:59] <parker`> cool thanks
[01:59] <Edvinas> kbrooks, how to view the source of that like in windows?
[01:59] <pppoe_dude> eugman, not without port forwarding
[02:00] <edu> Cyorxamp: ok, I guess it is not possible
[02:00] <kbrosnan> Edvinas, if you want to remove individual cookies you should use edit -> preferences -> privacy -> cookies -> view cookies
[02:00] <bennyboy> parker`, you might want to check out http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:00] <pppoe_dude> eugman, or at least not in any easy way... you might be able to tunnel ssh or somethn
[02:00] <eugman> pppoe_dude, darn. I was hoping there might be a way if the vnc'd computer were to initiate it.
[02:00] <pppoe_dude> eugman, but doubtful
[02:00] <parker`> bennyboy: thanks
[02:01] <edu> Cyorxamp: but I heard that some people restore a whole system from a backup while the OS is running...
[02:02] <gavagai> CUPS web interface is prompting me for a user/pass, but it won't accept mine.  It seems to want real root or something.  What's up with cups web interface on ubuntu?
[02:02] <iceyes> is there any newer kernel than breezy?
[02:02] <Edvinas> kbrooks, i cant edit them
[02:02] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[02:03] <iceyes> !kernel
[02:03] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[02:03] <eugman> So can ssh work without port forwarding?
[02:03] <AJR1> how do i get my other drives working under ubuntu
[02:03] <kbrosnan> Edvinas, i am kbrosnan, just double click on the file
[02:03] <AJR1> says could not execute pmount or something
[02:03] <Dapallo> anyone know how to get the sound to play from Firefox?
[02:03] <Miles> Anyone know how to actually DISABLE the goddamn motherboard sound card?
[02:03] <Cyorxamp> edu - you may find something that can do that but it can only restore things that are not in use without restarting
[02:03] <NickGarvey> does the live cd have a "toram" option?
[02:04] <Miles> Or make it NOT change the IRQ of it at the same time as the other sound card?
[02:04] <parker`> wow this Dapper guide is amazing, bennyboy
[02:04] <Cyorxamp> edu - if you want to 're-install' then your not keeping anything that currently exists - thus it needs wiping, thus no OS to exist to use to help with the reinstall
[02:04] <Dapallo> anyone?
[02:04] <The_Spider> Question: I'm using 6.06, ISO but it will not boot on my system, It locks up after it detects my 3wire card, is there a way to bypass this autodetect via boot command line?
[02:04] <kbrosnan> Miles, it is likely a bios setting which are changed by hitting a key before the computer starts loading the opreating system
[02:05] <Miles> I DID THAT. REPEATEDLY.
[02:05] <bennyboy> yeah it has alot of good info
[02:05] <iceyes> is there something newer than breezy?
[02:05] <Cyorxamp> iceyes - dapper
[02:05] <__mikem> um yes iceyes
[02:05] <Edvinas> kbrooks, and it doesnt open
[02:05] <riddlebox> what do I need to see php files for apache?
[02:06] <edu> Cyorxamp: ok, look... this is my problem: my CD install crashes always
[02:06] <Miles> I hit F2, went to the sound area. It had 'on' and 'off'. I went to PCI IRQ settings. I tried changing the IRQ of the motherboard sound. It changed the sound card to match the mobo one.
[02:06] <parker`> this guide ought to hold me over for a few hours....
[02:06] <Cyorxamp> edu, then to my knowledge - your fucked
[02:06] <kbrooks> Cyorxamp: language
[02:06] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:06] <Dapallo> please, I really need to know how to get my sound to work from Firefox
[02:06] <Miles> Of course, maybe this wouldn't be a problem if Ubuntu would actually LET ME SET A DEFAULT SOUND CARD.
[02:07] <edu> Cyorxamp: I see...
[02:07] <iceyes> !dapper
[02:07] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[02:07] <crimsun> Dapallo: you mean for Flash?
[02:07] <nickrud> edu, have you checked the burn? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto
[02:07] <Dapallo> yeah
[02:07] <Dapallo> pretty much
[02:07] <Cyorxamp> !ubuntu
[02:07] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[02:07] <crimsun> Dapallo: install 'alsa-oss' from universe, then use ``aoss firefox''
[02:07] <kbrosnan> Edvinas, once again stop autocompleteing the nick if you are going to keep getting it wrong. then just use text editor in the accessories and open that fiel
[02:07] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:07] <brizola> Warbo: i think it didnt work....
[02:07] <parker`> this is a general hardware question for you guys: I have a video card with both a VGA and DVI out, and I have an LCD on the DVI and a CRT on the VGA, when I turn my computer on, output defaults to the VGA, even Ubuntu is using the VGA instead of the LCD or both monitors
[02:08] <Dapallo> use 'aoss firefox ' in the command line?
[02:08] <Cyorxamp> !computers
[02:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[02:08] <crimsun> Dapallo: yes
[02:08] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:08] <Edvinas> kbrosnan, can you tell me the place where is it in console (the cookies)
[02:09] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:09] <smax> crimsun how keep changes in grub ( like command lilo after changes)
[02:09] <crimsun> smax: update-grub
[02:09] <zanzabuntu> soooo, does the live cd make your windows drive mounted or not?
[02:09] <zanzabuntu> or is there some linux voodoo that must be done?
[02:09] <gnufied> how do i disable startup services in ubuntu dapper? the  program there in admin menu looks quite lame?
[02:10] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:10] <kbrosnan> Edvinas, it is in your profile folder ~/.mozilla/firefox/ more detail at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_Folder#Firefox
[02:10] <gnufied> do i have to manually edit the rc.d files?
[02:10] <Dapallo> what do you mean from universe crimsun?
[02:10] <chris__> can somebody please help me ;(
[02:10] <cartesian1984> gnufied: sudo apt-get install rcconf
[02:10] <cartesian1984> gnufied: everything is in there.
[02:10] <Miles> ...
[02:11] <`underOATH> is there a way to downgrade from the new version back to breezey, some of my things dont work in dapper
[02:11] <blacktears> hey everybody whats up
[02:11] <gnufied> cartesian1984: cool
[02:11] <cartesian1984> `underOATH: I think you can replace your sources.list with the breezy one and do a dist-upgrade
[02:11] <chris__> can somebody please help me
[02:11] <cartesian1984> `underOATH: Google for source.list generator
[02:12] <cartesian1984> chris__: check the ubuntu forums, theres a guide there.
[02:12] <`underOATH> cartesian1984. sounds like to much work. i think i'll just reformat and reinstall
[02:12] <`underOATH> lol
[02:12] <chris__> how do i do that
[02:12] <cartesian1984> `underOATH: Nah, after you replace the list, its just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[02:12] <gnufied> cartesian1984: do i really need rsync?does ubuntu uses this for updating the system?
[02:13] <cartesian1984> gnufied: I don't think so.
[02:13] <cartesian1984> gnufied: I think its more for backup.
[02:13] <chris__> how do i manully install the nvidia driver
[02:13] <Dapallo> crimsun: what do you mean by, "install alsa-oss from universe"
[02:14] <crimsun> Dapallo: apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:14] <gnufied> cartesian1984: oh..so i can safely disable that!! how abt Nvidia kernel? i dont think i need that either.Because i dont have nvidia thingy!!
[02:14] <cartesian1984> chris__: search the ubuntu forums. There is a howto there. www.ubuntuforums.com look at the search bar in the upper left, and search nvidia
[02:14] <cartesian1984> gnufied: Yeah, you can disable that too.
[02:15] <cartesian1984> chris__: say...why do you need to manually install it? Are you trying to get some highly graphical thing?
[02:15] <chris__> yeah
[02:16] <cartesian1984> Ah...
[02:16] <Geoffrey2> what is the command to take ownership of a file or folder?
[02:16] <cartesian1984> Geoffrey2: chown
[02:16] <pppoe_dude> Geoffrey2, chown user:group <file/folder>
[02:17] <smax> i change menu.lst make update.grub but boot menu is the same what's wrong?
[02:18] <elie> any1 kan help with this---->http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16720
[02:18] <gavagai> how do i active root?  i know the args for and against already.
[02:18] <crimsun> smax: same as ...?
[02:18] <dli> smax, " sudo update-grub "
[02:18] <FatDwarf> i updated my ubuntu kernel and lost usplash. could someone point me in a direction that explains how to get it back? i have searched the ubuntu forums with no success.
[02:18] <smax> crimsun same as was
[02:18] <gavagai> because cups wants a root password and i'm sick of fighting with it
[02:18] <riddlebox> where is the apache conf file?
[02:18] <ardchoille> gavagai: my question is, why do you need it? There really isn't any reason to log in as root.
[02:18] <smax> crimsun in root konsole
[02:18] <gavagai> ardchoille, please setup cups on my computer then
[02:18] <gavagai> because it doesn't care about my mere admin username and password
[02:18] <dli> FatDwarf, maybe, your kernel doesn't support splash, or, you got the kernel options in grub wrong
[02:19] <smax> crimsun it said that find 2.1.15.x kernel and old kernel to but
[02:19] <smax> ups sory
[02:19] <cartesian1984> gavagai: you can just do sudo -i. You become root without having to have a root password.
[02:19] <gavagai> i am not logging in, it is a web interface
[02:19] <tao36> does anyone know how to solve the xfce4 problem with the apps menu?
[02:19] <FatDwarf> grub is ok but im not sure about the kernel. it is from kernel.org, 2,6,17,1
[02:19] <gavagai> CUPS admin interface
[02:19] <BCK14> whats OEM install on alternate CD ?
[02:19] <BCK14> ?
[02:19] <FatDwarf> it goes to the black screen unless i tell grub nosplash
[02:20] <ardchoille> gavagai: you can run any gui app using gksuexec
[02:20] <gavagai> to add a printer i need to give it the root password.  admin group isn't helping, even though cups config file is set to let admin group make changes.  it wants a root username and pass
[02:20] <gavagai> ardchoille, it is not a gui app
[02:20] <cartesian1984> BCK14: OEM is Original Equipment Manufacturer. I think its to customize an installation for particular hardware or something.
[02:20] <smax> crimsun update-grub said that find 2.6.15.x kernel and old 2.6.12 kernel
[02:20] <BCK14> !oem
[02:20] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[02:20] <gavagai> i will try launching the browser as root and going to the web interface but I doubt that is going to make any difference because cups doesn't know whose browser process it is
[02:20] <smax> crimsun but but menu is old!
[02:20] <gavagai> please just tell me how to activate root.
[02:21] <Kyral> !root
[02:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:21] <pppoe_dude> gavagai, root wont help with cups
[02:21] <tao36> !xfce4
[02:21] <gavagai> thanks
[02:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfce4
[02:21] <crimsun> smax: as in the boot menu is old?
[02:21] <NickGarvey> !xfce
[02:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about xfce
[02:21] <NickGarvey> wow
[02:21] <gavagai> pppoe_dude, what username/pass does its web interface want then?
[02:21] <gavagai> because it doesn't accept my password
[02:21] <crimsun> smax: can you take a digital photo of the grub menu at boot?
[02:21] <pppoe_dude> gavagai, you need a cups account iirc
[02:21] <tao36> the bot knows nothing...
[02:21] <Warbo> Does anyone know where my root window background setting is stored? gnome-setttings-daemon changes my root window back to Ubuntu's brown image
[02:21] <ardchoille> NickGarvey: wow is right. I thought for sure..
[02:22] <tao36> !ubotu
[02:22] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:22] <smax> crimsun I can gave you my old backup menu( which i see when reboot)
[02:22] <NickGarvey> !xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for linux, you can get xfce with "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop", or using a branch of ubuntu called xubuntu, join to #xubuntu for more details
[02:23] <Dapallo> damnit, whats the delete command in the terminal
[02:23] <tao36> this all-knowing infobot knows nothing about xfce4..:/
[02:23] <Warbo> rm
[02:23] <Dapallo> aww, thats it
[02:23] <pppoe_dude> Dapallo, be very careful with rm
[02:23] <cartesian1984> gavagai: have you tried gksudo firefox or similar?
[02:23] <Dapallo> oh, i know
[02:23] <Dapallo> i just could remember it
[02:23] <edu> problem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not any more...
[02:23] <Evaso2> how could i debug an acpi S3 sleep mode that doesn't work fine?
[02:23] <smax> crimsun it's steel old. grub said that find 2 kernels and in menu i have onlu 1
[02:23] <Warbo> I was htinking of writing a script which moves stuff to the wastebin instead of deleting it, just as a test for my scripting knowledge
[02:24] <Dapallo> okay, how do i delete a directory
[02:24] <tao36> NickGarvey been there..no one helped..
[02:24] <Warbo> Dapallo: rm -r
[02:24] <pppoe_dude> Dapallo, rmdir
[02:24] <NickGarvey> tao36: it is a channel though right?
[02:24] <Dapallo> which one
[02:24] <NickGarvey> yes
[02:24] <Dapallo> lol
[02:24] <tao36> right!
[02:24] <kb3mkd> why do two of my ubuntu installations ask me to upgrade to drake, but the 3rd doesn't?
[02:24] <pppoe_dude> Dapallo, if you want to delete the contents of the directory, rm -R <dir name> but be very careful
[02:24] <__mikem> rm -r is dangerous, don't use it if at all posible, and if you must do so with caution
[02:24] <edu> problem, smb://winXP was working perfectly but not now
[02:25] <Dapallo> i want to delete an entire directory, and folder
[02:25] <Warbo> Dapallo: rmdir will remove an empty directory, rm -r will go through the directory removing everything in it, then the directory itself
[02:25] <Dapallo> its contents, and the folder
[02:25] <Dapallo> ok
[02:25] <smax> crimsun i don't have cable to send you photo
[02:25] <tao36> NickGarvey well you've been there..
[02:25] <tao36> :)
[02:25] <cartesian1984> edu: Try using a command line smb client and see if it gives you an error.
[02:25] <smax> crimsun but menu doesn't changed
[02:26] <Dapallo> okay, now i want to move  different folder over to this directory, how do i do that
[02:26] <trippyskippy> hey guys, is there any way that being
[02:26] <alpha9> wow its hard to find this channel
[02:26] <alpha9> can someone assist me with an install?
[02:26] <kb3mkd> why do two of my ubuntu installations ask me to upgrade to drake, but the 3rd doesn't?
[02:26] <Kyral> Dapallo: mv
[02:26] <tao36> NickGarvey the infobot is the same in both channel...s
[02:26] <tao36> :(
[02:26] <NickGarvey> tao36: yup
[02:27] <jackal`inst> hi (:
[02:27] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to restart Xserver??
[02:27] <trippyskippy> i get errors when trying to reload my repositories in synaptic, is there any chance that i need to port forward anything?
[02:27] <edu> cartesian1984: good idea, how?
[02:27] <__mikem> elknof1 hit control alt backspace
[02:27] <alpha9> can someone tell me how to install this operating system, i have the cd....
[02:27] <elknof1> thanks
[02:27] <cartesian1984> edu: I don't know of any, let me ask some other friends.
[02:27] <trippyskippy> elknof1,  or type "/etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[02:27] <__mikem> alpha9 what specificly do you need help with
[02:28] <alpha9> im new to linux
[02:28] <kb3mkd> why do two of my ubuntu installations ask me to upgrade to drake, but the 3rd doesn't?
[02:28] <smax> crimsun what should I do? to change boot menu
[02:28] <alpha9> and there is no install guide
[02:28] <__mikem> the instalation should be prety streight forward
[02:28] <edu> cartesian1984: thanks a lot
[02:28] <cartesian1984> edu: do sudo apt-get install smbclient
[02:28] <cartesian1984> edu: No problem.
[02:28] <alpha9> windows doesnt recognize it and i cannot boot from the cd
[02:28] <crimsun> smax: I'm very busy atm. Keep in mind you can always just edit the kernels and initrds chosen.
[02:28] <__mikem> brb
[02:29] <crimsun> smax: as in with the 'e' keypress
[02:29] <edu> cartesian1984: I have already installed... I can run smbclient now
[02:29] <trippyskippy> alpha9, i would guess you have a bad cd/drive then
[02:29] <Patrick_> has anyone ever experienced a purplish outline on windows and boarders in XGL?
[02:29] <Patrick_> lo
[02:29] <Patrick_> lol
[02:29] <Patrick_> almost like purple shadows I should say...
[02:29] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, its the drop shadow effect
[02:29] <cartesian1984> alpha9: there is an install guide, if you google around for ubuntu installation screenshots you should find one.
[02:29] <alpha9> should it boot from the cd on startup?
[02:29] <cartesian1984> edu: all right, try accessing that share, then.
[02:29] <pppoe_dude> alpha9, google: ubuntu osdir
[02:29] <Patrick_> trippyskippy how do I fix ti?
[02:30] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, what compiz packages are you using? do you have gsetcompiz?
[02:30] <smax> crimsun OK thankyou very muck for good advice's
[02:30] <ardchoille> does xfce use less resources than gnome? Is it faster?
[02:30] <smax> *much
[02:30] <trippyskippy> Patrick_,  try doing "gset-compiz" from a terminal, it should allow you to play with your drop shadow settings
[02:30] <NickGarvey> ardchoille: oh yes it is
[02:30] <cartesian1984> ardchoille: Yeah.
[02:31] <Patrick_> trippyskippy how would one find out? my desktop isatn exactly useable... lol. like, I have to resize the windows to get it to render correctly
[02:31] <cartesian1984> ardchoille: very much so. You can run it in half the RAM.
[02:31] <Patrick_> but, when I move the windows its fully animated and smooth
[02:31] <Dapallo> okay, I have to versions of Firefox on here, and when I type in firefox in the terminal, it loads the one i dont want it too, how can i change that
[02:31] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, sounds like it isnt the drop shadow then, if its the effect then the shadows should only be small
[02:31] <ardchoille> W00T! I'm gonna try xfce :)
[02:32] <alpha9> im finding mostly news articles
[02:32] <zanzabuntu> hi, i copied some file in ubuntu to my jumpdrive, and when i move the jumpdrive to a windows box, the files arent there
[02:32] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: symlink the firefox binary to /home/username/firefox.
[02:32] <zanzabuntu> am I missing something obvious here?
[02:32] <alpha9> ah yes ive found something
[02:32] <Dapallo> do what cartesian1984?
[02:33] <alpha9> its just screenshots
[02:33] <pppoe_dude> zanzabuntu, what filesystem do you have for the jumpdrive?
[02:33] <zanzabuntu> no freaking clue
[02:33] <zanzabuntu> fat 16 or 32
[02:33] <zanzabuntu> most liekly
[02:33] <zanzabuntu> and the files were from an ntfs hard drive
[02:33] <ardchoille> Dapallo: launch the version of firefox you want to use but use the path in the launch:  /path/to/desired/firefox
[02:33] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: I believe its ln -s /path/to/firefox/binary ~/firefox
[02:33] <Dapallo> ok
[02:34] <t4ken> if you go to a launcher lets say a firefox launcher and you look under properties and you select launcher properties what does the %u mean?
[02:34] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: Where ~ is the home dir.
[02:34] <edu> cartesian1984: it connects OK
[02:34] <t4ken> after firefox
[02:34] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, the drop shadow effect is small, its just purple for some odd reason.. and as I said before, the windows aren't rendering correctly, I can't see the contents or they don't update without my resizing the window...
[02:34] <cartesian1984> edu: Ok....odd.....maybe its a problem with the browser then?
[02:34] <zanzabuntu> hell, just getting the hard drive accesible was an excercise, i used umask=022 should i use something else?
[02:34] <cartesian1984> edu: Or maybe the hostname was changed
[02:34] <elie> damn i keep getting :
[02:34] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:34] <elie> ./ssam_lnx: error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:34] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[02:34] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:34] <tulga> I need restart usb ports every 4 hours. is it possible?
[02:35] <tulga> I need restart usb ports every 4 hours. is it possible?
[02:35] <edu> cartesian1984: I know what's the problem now: NETBIOS hostname
[02:35] <cartesian1984> Ah...
[02:35] <Dapallo> okay, this is really starting to piss me off
[02:35] <Dapallo> i have to versions and i only want the updated version
[02:35] <Dapallo> i want to get rid of the other one
[02:36] <Dapallo> expect i dont know which one is which
[02:36] <Dapallo> in the directorys
[02:36] <zanzabuntu> hmmmmm, no ideas?
[02:36] <Cyorxamp> !computers
[02:36] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: were they installed with synaptic/dpkg?
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[02:36] <elie> damn i keep getting :
[02:36] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:36] <elie> ./ssam_lnx: error while loading shared libraries: libogg.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:36] <elie> ERROR: ld.so: object './libvorbis.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[02:36] <elie> Cannot open display "default display"
[02:36] <pppoe_dude> elie, please dont flood
[02:36] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell elie about pastebin
[02:36] <Dapallo> no, one of them, the updated one, I downloaded my self from the website
[02:37] <elie> k
[02:37] <edu> cartesian1984: smbclient //server/shared DOES NOT WORK, but smbclient //192.168.2.1/shared works OK
[02:37] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: Are you running dapper or breezy?
[02:37] <Dapallo> ehh
[02:37] <cartesian1984> edu: oh, all right.
[02:37] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, the drop shadow effect is small, its just purple for some odd reason.. and as I said before, the windows aren't rendering correctly, I can't see the contents or they don't update without my resizing the window...
[02:37] <Dapallo> bout that
[02:37] <Dapallo> hoery (sp)
[02:37] <dgl> does anyone know it dapper server does run at old computers?
[02:37] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, you need to run "gset-compiz" from a terminal
[02:37] <cartesian1984> dgl: yup.
[02:38] <cartesian1984> dgl: As little as a pentium I with 32MBs of RAM.
[02:38] <Dapallo> can you still help?
[02:38] <edu> cartesian1984: thanks for your help
[02:38] <cartesian1984> dgl: Though you'll be quite cramped.
[02:38] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: yeah.
[02:38] <cartesian1984> edu: no problem
[02:38] <Dapallo> ok
[02:38] <dgl> cartesian1984, I ve try a lot, but it only work with dapper alternate
[02:38] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: ok, what are the firefox versions?
[02:39] <Timir> mikere, You there?
[02:39] <Dapallo> one sec, let me see
[02:39] <alpha9> ok im sure ive got a corrupt live cd install.............
[02:39] <Remo_A> hi all, I'd like to try out xgl, but the tutorial http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Baustelle/Xgl?highlight=%28%5EBaustelle/.%2A%29 here is only for gnome, how can I adopt that using kubuntu (thus kde)?
[02:39] <pppoe_dude> alpha9, did u md5sum your iso image?
[02:39] <mikere> Timir: hey =)
[02:39] <cartesian1984> dgl: Thats all right, the normal dapper is mainly intended for newish desktops anyway.
[02:39] <Timir> mikere, I found the bug
[02:39] <mikere> Timir: oh?  What was it?
[02:39] <Timir> mikere, It has a special Linux and Mac nwn.ini
[02:39] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: the one i want to keep is 1.5.0.4
[02:39] <dgl> cartesian1984, ow... It should be write at download page! I spend 1 day to discover that
[02:40] <kb3mkd> why do two of my ubuntu installations ask me to upgrade to drake, but the 3rd doesn't?
[02:40] <Timir> mikere, It was in there but it asked to override and I thought "Probably shouldn't", redid it, bam, worked, one problemo though
[02:40] <Remo_A> alpha9: I had wrong md5sums on 2 of 3 mirrored files!
[02:40] <mikere> Timir: ah - what problem still?
[02:40] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: ok, 1.5.0.4 is updated in the repos, so you should be able to delete the one you downloaded.
[02:40] <Timir> mikere, It won't go out to the net
[02:40] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, what good will that do, really?
[02:40] <JadeRobbins> i hate linux now
[02:40] <JadeRobbins> i HATE it
[02:40] <jackal`inst> ehm..i want to set up my system with xubuntu and i am now at the point where i am asked to partition the root / there are many filesystems - what is your recommendation? ext2/3 reiserfs? have no idea :-/ help :-)
[02:40] <mikere> Timir: firewalled?
[02:40] <Timir> mikere, Like it's not being broadcasted
[02:40] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, the settings in that aren't really screwed up, it seems to be deeper now.
[02:40] <edu> cartesian1984: do you know how the hostname ATLAS can be associated with its IP?
[02:41] <Dapallo> okay, I moved that one to the /etc directory
[02:41] <Timir> mikere, Could a router firewall do it?
[02:41] <cartesian1984> edu: sorry...dunno.
[02:41] <pppoe_dude> jackal`inst, ext3 should do
[02:41] <mikere> Timir: yes
[02:41] <Ademan> anyone here used gparted to partition raid drives?
[02:41] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, it will let you change the purple colour, you could also try changing the refresh rate and see if it helps
[02:41] <Timir> mikere, Or does Mandrake 10.1 come with a firewall? I have the ports forwarded but they're being blocked..
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> jackal dont' do ext3
[02:41] <jackal`inst> pppoe_dude, k thx *g*
[02:41] <Dapallo> where is the pre-installed one at?
[02:41] <edu> cartesian1984: ok, it's all right
[02:41] <jackal`inst> dont oO
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> there are better tools to diagnose ext2 problems
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> like recover
[02:41] <cartesian1984> JadeRobbins: sorry it didn't work out for you. I'd be happy to help with anything if its possible.
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> i'm finding out right now
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> hehe
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> well i did a fsck
[02:41] <mikere> Timir: easy to check the mandrake settings - just iptables -L
[02:41] <JadeRobbins> and as to be expected deleted it
[02:41] <Cyorxamp> !raid
[02:41] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> !sata
[02:42] <jackal`inst> JadeRobbins, so if i want to recover deleted files ext2 is the better choice?
[02:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about sata
[02:42] <Timir> mikere, what do you mean?
[02:42] <t4ken> has anyone hear ever made a custom launcher
[02:42] <nbjayme> please help... i have a problem printing to win2k server from ubuntu...i can see my job at the Win2k printing queue but somehow it does not go to the printer...?
[02:42] <Cyorxamp> !howtohavesex
[02:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about howtohavesex
[02:42] <JadeRobbins> so now i'm using some stupid windows program to try and undelete problems
[02:42] <pppoe_dude> !botabuse
[02:42] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[02:42] <kb3mkd> how do i do an automatic upgrade without downloading and burning a cd
[02:42] <JadeRobbins> jackal`inst: dont listen to me, i'm disgruntled :D
[02:42] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:42] <jackal`inst> k oO
[02:42] <nbjayme> The printer is HPDeskjet3744
[02:42] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: when I go to the gnome menu, and click on it there, it still loads the 1.0.8 version
[02:42] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: yeah. There isn't much you can do about ext3 if you need to recover files.
[02:42] <mikere> Timir: all linux firewalls are iptables based - can use iptables -L from command line to list the rules
[02:42] <t4ken> !customlaunchers
[02:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about customlaunchers
[02:42] <pppoe_dude> Cyorxamp, ubotu is not google... please
[02:43] <t4ken> !custom launchers
[02:43] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: do you have breezy or dapper?
[02:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about custom launchers
[02:43] <t4ken> :(
[02:43] <trippyskippy> jackal`inst, AFAIK ext2 is the only linux filesystem which is easy to undelete from
[02:43] <Dapallo> then when I manualy load it through the dircetory and terminal, it loads the updated on
[02:43] <pppoe_dude> t4ken, ubotu is not google
[02:43] <t4ken> lol
[02:43] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: i said neither, i have hoery(sp)
[02:43] <cartesian1984> Oh, sorry.
[02:43] <Dapallo> np
[02:43] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, I can't change the refreash rate, I'm on a laptop
[02:43] <ubuntu_Iz> i've got a weird problem with ubuntu :/
[02:43] <mikere> Timir: then I'd check NWN docs/forums/etc for info on which ports to forward or allow
[02:43] <Timir> mikere, unknown command iptables
[02:44] <Cyorxamp> !aboutpppoe_dudesshortcomingsdownthereyoushouldaskhim
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about aboutpppoe_dudesshortcomingsdownthereyoushouldaskhim
[02:44] <mikere> Timir: need root mebbe
[02:44] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: thats why i asked you if you could still help
[02:44] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:44] <cartesian1984> Ok, hoary....so open up synaptic, and go to mozilla-firefox or firefox, wherever it is in hoary.
[02:44] <mike8901> my ubuntu install on my laptop froze at "configuring hardware." do any of you know what was the probable cause?
[02:44] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, I also can't see my self manipulate ANYTHING in ANY window because it doesn't bloody render it in real time... I have to bloody resize the window to make it refreash....
[02:44] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, dont think that my main work will be recovering files *g* so ... ext3? or reiserfs? heard some good things about reiser...fast? is that true? or not that good? omg im so clumsy oO
[02:44] <Timir> mikere, ok that worked
[02:44] <Cyorxamp> !ubuntu
[02:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuntu
[02:44] <spikeb> wow.
[02:44] <pppoe_dude> Cyorxamp, please stop
[02:45] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, yeah thats why i think your problem is refresh, compiz has its own refresh rate setting, if this is set too high you often get rendering problems
[02:45] <gnufied> \leave bye
[02:45] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, I can't manipulate anything like this tho...argh
[02:45] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: synaptic says that 1.0.8 is the latest version
[02:45] <[NP] Tangent> ugh
[02:46] <[NP] Tangent> file manager crashed and now it refuses to open again
[02:46] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: reiser4 is very fast, but experimental. Reiserfs is stable and comparible in speed to ext3. You need a specialized kernel to use reiser4. XFS is the fastest, but you can lose data due to power outages. JFS is slow but good on cpu usage.
[02:46] <Timir> mikere, Okay, how do I use that?
[02:46] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: ok, click on properties.
[02:46] <mikere> Timir: hehe, that's a long discussion =)
[02:46] <Cyorxamp> !thischannelorubuntuasIamawasteofspace
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about thischannelorubuntuasIamawasteofspace
[02:46] <Dapallo> k
[02:46] <kb3mkd> why do two of my ubuntu installations ask me to upgrade to drake, but the 3rd doesn't?
[02:46] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: and find if its placed files in /usr/bin
[02:46] <Warbo> Anyone know how to start Epiphany without running GNOME?
[02:47] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, ok..your final answere? ext3 or reis? :)
[02:47] <nbjayme> anybody successfully printed to win2k server from Ubuntu?  i can see the print job but it does not go through the  printer.
[02:47] <mikere> Timir: but if the output from iptables -L gives you a list of INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT and the default policy is ACCEPT for each, you shoud be ok
[02:47] <gnomefreak> Warbo: you should beable to start it anywhere
[02:47] <pppoe_dude> Cyorxamp, please either ask questions or leave... do not troll in here
[02:47] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:47] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: if you're willing to patch the kernel, reiser4. Its pretty stable now. Otherwise, ext3 is all right, unless you REALLY need file recovery stuff.
[02:47] <Timir> mikere, Thats what it says, like Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[02:47] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, my refreash rate is 60, what should I set it to? (thats as high as the laptop goes btw)
[02:47] <Dapallo> yes it did
[02:47] <mikere> Timir: ok, it's not the box itself that's blocking
[02:47] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, i thank you :) i will now continue the installation :)
[02:48] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: what are the names?
[02:48] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: no problem. Good luck!
[02:48] <mikere> Timir: now I'd check what settings NWN recommends on your router
[02:48] <Warbo> gnomefreak: I am in E16, running from within a chroot in an X in the host system
[02:48] <parker`> Not trying to start a flamewar or anything, but I am a pretty new Linux user that's used both Fedora and Ubuntu, and I was just wondering what you guys like more about Ubuntu that something like FC5
[02:48] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, turn off "automatic" and try it at 50
[02:48] <Dapallo> /usr/bin/firefox  &  /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[02:48] <gnomefreak> well that changes a bit than  you can try in terminal
[02:48] <yipe> parker`, head into ubuntu-offtopic for stuff like that
[02:48] <cartesian1984> Ok. Now, when you say the gnome menu, do you mean in Applications, or the gnome-panel?
[02:48] <yipe> I'm there right now
[02:48] <ubuntu_Iz> what is this # for?
[02:49] <parker`> oh I didn't know
[02:49] <Dapallo> applications
[02:49] <parker`> #ubunut-offtopic
[02:49] <parker`> er
[02:49] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, then i suggest you do "killall gnome-window-decorator" and then "metacity" from a terminal to get rid of compiz for the time being
[02:49] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, and the shadow?
[02:49] <Timir> mikere, I have a friend who does NWN servers, but the ports are still blocked even though I went in and put forward
[02:49] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: its to comment a line.
[02:49] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, what graphics card does your laptop have?
[02:49] <ubuntu_Iz> oh
[02:49] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: when the kernel or whatever reads the file, it will ignore it.
[02:49] <mikere> Timir: what kind of router?
[02:49] <kb3mkd> you guys are useless
[02:49] <ubuntu_Iz> what
[02:49] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: whatever line has that in front ofit.
[02:49] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, try diabling the "decoration" plugin, that will kill the shadow
[02:49] <wazzu> Has anyone received the free Dapper CDs yet?
[02:50] <ubuntu_Iz> well isn't that useful
[02:50] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[02:50] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, you need to make sure you have the best drivers availiable for your gfx card
[02:50] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: it is if you want to keep your code well documented.
[02:50] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, this is ATI, and I also don't want to kill the shadows.
[02:50] <Warbo> gnomefreak: ** (epiphany:14637): WARNING **: Unable to connect to session bus: Unable to determine the address of the message bus (and the same kind of message appears in a dialog box)
[02:50] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, I got the shadows working 100% perfect in AIGLX, I see no logical reason why I can't have that now.
[02:50] <ubuntu_Iz> i dont
[02:51] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: appilcations, if you didnt see it already
[02:51] <gnomefreak> Warbo: i dont know than sorry
[02:51] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, what ATI driver are you using?
[02:51] <pppoe_dude> elie, do you have libogg installed?
[02:51] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, fglrx I think, unless it fucked up to, everything seems to just screw up
[02:51] <mike8901> my ubuntu install on my laptop froze at "configuring hardware." do any of you know what was the probable cause?
[02:51] <elie> i chkd it in synthetiq...
[02:51] <Warbo> gnomefreak: OK, I think I have seen this issue talked about before (affecting remote GNOME users)
[02:51] <Edvinas> how to run .pl file?
[02:51] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, also, your refreash rate trick didn't work, at all
[02:51] <Timir> mikere, Netgear
[02:51] <mike8901> I'm reinstalling it now. I tried using the graphical fallback mode.
[02:52] <Warbo> Edvinas: "./file.pl" or "perl file.pl"
[02:52] <gnomefreak> Edvinas: perl file.pl
[02:52] <Timir> 624 something..
[02:52] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: oh, sorry. I'm not too sure how to change those. So you'll have to delete the firefox binary, /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox and replace them with links to the one you downloaded.
[02:52] <pppoe_dude> elie, you mean synaptic?
[02:52] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, well i suggest you kill all of the compiz plugins and enable them one by one
[02:52] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, you need to troubleshoot
[02:52] <rob_p> [NP] Tangent, Open a terminal and type, "killall nautilus" and then try opening it again.
[02:52] <Dapallo> ok
[02:52] <mikere> Timir: hmm... I haven't used a netgear before - trendnet and d-link so far - and hate both of them so far.  My next one's gonna be linksys
[02:52] <Dapallo> like shortcuts?
[02:52] <ubuntu_Iz> ubuntu makes my pc shut down
[02:52] <mikere> Timir: I'm checking the NWN forums for some info
[02:52] <cartesian1984> Edvinas: the ./file.pl one if you have the #!/usr/bin/perl at the beginning of the script.
[02:52] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, in AIGLX, when this render problem happend it was merely adding a line of code to the Xorg.conf file, perhaps such things can be done again.
[02:52] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: Yeah.
[02:52] <Dapallo> cartesian1984: like shortcuts?
[02:53] <Dapallo> ok
[02:53] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, what was the line of code you added?
[02:53] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: You use symlinks, or symbolic links. Do sudo -i to become root in a terminal. Then rm /usr/bin/firefox and /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox.
[02:53] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: you know...I think there might be an easier way to do this.
[02:53] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, hold on
[02:53] <elie> yup
[02:54] <pppoe_dude> Dapallo, what are you treying to do?
[02:54] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, would it be possible to go into a different channel to discuss this/
[02:54] <pppoe_dude> elie, and its installed?
[02:54] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: if you google for ubuntu packages you should find a way to search for dapper packages. maybe packages.ubuntu.com or something. I forget.
[02:55] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: from there you should be able to get firefox.
[02:55] <cartesian1984> Dapallo: Also...consider upgrading to dapper once its stable, since its a long term release.
[02:55] <elie> its green(chkd as i had selected it b4
[02:55] <trippyskippy> Patrick_, sure, im not on for long though
[02:55] <Patrick_> trippyskippy, channel xgl-troubleshoot
[02:56] <ubuntu_Iz> is any available for help?
[02:56] <pppoe_dude> Ubugtu, can you be more specific?
[02:56] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: you cant change it in ubotu and !xfce is known i made it already
[02:56] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: whats the issue?
[02:56] <Broam> Evening all
[02:56] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: and yes i see all :)
[02:56] <elie> yes
[02:56] <ubuntu_Iz> when i install ubuntu 5.10, or 6.06, my pc will only run for a short time before properly shutting its self down
[02:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: what do you mean I can't change it in ubotu?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> you cant add or change factoids
[02:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I just tossed in the word "or" so people wouldn't get confused
[02:57] <elliptic> Patrick_: if it was private just say
[02:57] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: there are certain people that can do it
[02:57] <pppoe_dude> NickGarvey, anymore
[02:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: yes, I did this "!xfce =~ s/org/org or/"
[02:57] <Patrick_> elliptic, ok, sorry.
[02:57] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: I would advise posting that one on the forums. Sounds like hardware trouble.
[02:57] <Broam> Easy question here.  I changed network cards so that my new card is detected as eth1, not eth0.  Right now I have to `sudo dhclient3 eth1` any time I reboot the machine.  Where's the proper file to mangle so that I can have this run on startup? It was done for eth0, so I figure it's just changing the card name
[02:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I didn't try to add it, I just tried to toss in the word "or"
[02:57] <ubuntu_Iz> i have
[02:58] <gnomefreak> no you didnt change it
[02:58] <gnomefreak> !xfce
[02:58] <ubuntu_Iz> the pc runs windows fine, and the liveCD
[02:58] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:58] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: sorry I don't know anything about it.
[02:58] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I know, I sent a request for a change ;)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> i know
[02:58] <ubuntu_Iz> thanks
[02:58] <gnomefreak> i saw it
[02:58] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: didn't like it?
[02:59] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I thought "ee http://www.xubuntu.org to install from Ubuntu:" was confusing, looked like xubuntu.org has instructions for installing from ubuntu
[02:59] <rob_p> Broam, /etc/network/interfaces
[02:59] <gnomefreak> havent gotten to it yet but you tried adding xfce so i figured you were trying again
[02:59] <Broam> rob_p:  Thanks
[02:59] <rob_p> Broam, welcome
[02:59] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: oh, I'm sorry about that :)
[03:00] <mikere> Timir: do you have ports 5130 through 5300, port 6500, 27900 and 28900 enabled (UDP, not TCP).  Good information at http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=387975&forum=56
[03:00] <Timir> mikere, hm, it couldn't be NAT could it?
[03:00] <Timir> mikere, I have them opened in UDP and TCP
[03:00] <mikere> Timir: NAT is what you want
[03:00] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: fixed
[03:00] <Broam> rob_p: And it has a manual reference in the file...perfect.  Thank you very much.
[03:00] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: :)
[03:00] <mikere> Timir: t least I think
[03:01] <Timir> mikere, I thought I didn't need NAT if the linux box could connect to the internet?
[03:01] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen??
[03:01] <elknof1> I use a ati mov rad 9000
[03:01] <mikere> Timir: you are setting up a server - so NAT is needed so your internal IP is acting like the external IP of the router
[03:02] <rob_p> Broam, Yup!  Pretty straight-forward.  Good luck.
[03:02] <mikere> Timir: I think some routers call this virtual server
[03:02] <Timir> mikere, But it's on the network with this comp, couldn't that screw up this one too?
[03:03] <mikere> Timir: I don't think so - but try it - if it causes problems, set it back =)
[03:03] <Timir> mikere, I dunno how to set NAT up..
[03:03] <mikere> Timir: it's probably called virtual server on your router configuration
[03:04] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[03:04] <iceyes> how/where do i change mounthing on my hardrives it is hdb1 it should be hda1
[03:04] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)
[03:04] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, im back *g*...failed to archive the victory..ehm...well: need 4 partitions, right? boot(100mb), root(10gb?), swap(500mb) and home(30gb)? and one additional partition that will be readable from windows too. so I need the specific filesystems please (:
[03:04] <mikere> Timir: on my d-link, I go to advanced --> virtual server to set up server application nat
[03:05] <Timir> mikere, I don't see that on there..
[03:05] <mikere> Timir: your router may call it something else
[03:05] <Xonic> pppoe_dude, hey
[03:05] <mikere> Timir: afk min, wife talking at me
[03:05] <Timir> Static Routes, DynDNS, Lan IP setup, WAN setup, Port Forwarding/Triggering, Wireless Settings UPnP
[03:05] <Timir> k
[03:06] <Xonic> pppoe_dude: you around bro?
[03:06] <pppoe_dude> Xonic, ?
[03:06] <iceyes> how/where do i change mounthing on my hardrives it is hdb1 it should be hda1
[03:06] <NickGarvey> iceyes: why should it be hda1?..
[03:06] <Xonic> pppoe_dude: yea
[03:07] <iceyes> NickGarvey i changed the jumpers on the hardrive from slave to master than i have to change every time i start ubuntu
[03:07] <Xonic> pppoe_dude: im at my dads now, its not workin
[03:07] <NickGarvey> iceyes: why do you need to change it everytime you start?
[03:07] <pppoe_dude> Xonic, what do you get?
[03:08] <iceyes> NickGarvey beacuse i changed the jumper, and the mounthing points did get wrong
[03:08] <blocky> is it bad if i compiled my new kernel without devfs support?
[03:08] <Xonic> let go to another channel chatroom
[03:08] <elliptic> iceyes: /etc/fstab
[03:08] <NickGarvey> iceyes: no they got it right, its hdb when its slave and hda when its master
[03:08] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[03:09] <dobblego> crimsun gnomefreak, if you're still around, I'm about to give the live cd a shot - back in a bit
[03:09] <gnomefreak> dobblego: im here
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sorta
[03:09] <nbjayme> hello, i am receiving this error from gnome printer manager "No %%BoundingBox: comment in header!"
[03:09] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: sorry, are you still there?
[03:09] <jackal`inst> jep
[03:09] <iceyes> NickGarvey from the beginning it was slave then i changed to master on the primary hardirve
[03:09] <jackal`inst> still waiting and listening :)
[03:09] <jackal`inst> or reading
[03:09] <NickGarvey> iceyes: should be hda
[03:09] <elknof1> jackal`inst, fisrt resize NTFS, in case you are using winxp, so you can have some freespace for installation, then create an ext3 for root, at leas 4 GB, then a SWAP, (linux swap) at least 256MB, and for home you can use fat32, so win and lin can share documents
[03:10] <jackal`inst> have no more ntfs on my laptop :)
[03:10] <iceyes> NickGarvey i know what it should be because i change it everytime i start the computer, i just have to change it so it is hda1 every time i start
[03:10] <elknof1> jackal`inst, but first create an extended partition, then on it all i said
[03:10] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: all right, you don't need those in separate partitions necessarily. I always have boot and root on the same one.
[03:11] <jackal`inst> and no primary or what?
[03:11] <NickGarvey> iceyes: oh, what doesn't work? grub?
[03:11] <iceyes> the operating sytem!!
[03:11] <jackal`inst> lol
[03:11] <elie> any 1 can hel with this plz------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16727
[03:12] <elknof1> jackal`inst,are u using winxp??  i mean will u use both OS's?
[03:12] <elknof1> jackal`inst, or just linux??
[03:12] <jackal`inst> not on one pc...on my desktop pc i will use winxp and on my laptop i want to use xubuntu only
[03:12] <MattSta> how do you install  games
[03:12] <jackal`inst> desktop = playing / laptop = working
[03:13] <WarOfAttrition_> I think you should give a clearn warning that ubuntu will not install itself through the livecd on low memory (256MB) machines
[03:13] <sdfafs> Hi there can anyone HELP ME?
[03:13] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[03:13] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:13] <sdfafs> Okay when i try to install everything goes okay, but then stops suddenly like nothing happened
[03:13] <WarOfAttrition_> I had to close down a lot of services and programs to get it to install on my sister's old PC (256MB)
[03:13] <elknof1> jackal`inst, well, then let the installation program do it all... y mean, while installing select usea all space... or something like that...
[03:14] <elliptic> elie: sudo apt-get install libogg0 ?
[03:14] <jackal`inst> elknof1, hm k
[03:14] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: So, wait, are you dual booting on what you're installing on now?
[03:14] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, nope
[03:14] <sdfafs> yes
[03:14] <elie> elliptic:it is already installed
[03:15] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)
[03:15] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: all right, how large is the HD?
[03:15] <WarOfAttrition_> seriously, the livecd is terrible at handling memory
[03:15] <elliptic> elie: dont know so...
[03:15] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984. 80gb
[03:15] <elie> anyway thnx
[03:15] <jackal`inst> ouch
[03:15] <paquirri> who knows, how i can put the panel clock in 12 hours format in gnome
[03:16] <sdfafs> WHEN I TRY TO INSTALL THE INSTALLER DISAPPEARS LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED>> WHAT AM I DOING WRONG
[03:16] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: all right, make the root partition 20GBs. You never need more than that. Then make swap proportional to whatever it was in windows, no more than a gig. How much RAM does it have?
[03:16] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: no ned to hell.
[03:16] <cartesian1984> need to yell!
[03:16] <jackal`inst> 512
[03:16] <cartesian1984> Not ned to hell.
[03:16] <iceyes> how do i make write access to fstab so i can save it?
[03:16] <sdfafs> IT HAS 512 MB
[03:16] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: ok, so your swap partition should be 512 or so.
[03:16] <roostishaw> anyone, how do i add command line arguments to a bash script?
[03:16] <MattSta> Can someone please tell me how to explain how to install games
[03:17] <sdfafs> OKAY SO WILL IT LEAVE MY XP PARTITION ALONT
[03:17] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: boot should be 200MBs.
[03:17] <RadiantFire> iceyes: use sudo when you open it
[03:17] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: Are you capable of turning off caps lock?
[03:17] <MattSta> anyone?
[03:17] <sdfafs> sorry
[03:17] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: all right. Yeah, it will leave the XP partition alone.
[03:17] <jackal`inst> cartesian1984, root 20gb ext3, boot 200mb ext3, swap 512 linux-swap, home = ext3 ???
[03:17] <sdfafs> okay so the swap should be 512mb
[03:17] <jackal`inst> yes sdfafs
[03:18] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: yeah, thats perfect. Make home the rest of the disk.
[03:18] <jackal`inst> ok, thx alot :)
[03:18] <sdfafs> okay and i cant install it on anything more than 20gigs
[03:18] <iceyes> RadiantFire i tried that it wont work. if i remeber correct it is like gfsudo or something ?
[03:18] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: no problem. You can contact me on AOL IM with this same name should this go wrong.
[03:19] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: all right. It can install in about 2, so its fine.
[03:19] <jackal`inst> have no aol im ;-) but thx *g*
[03:19] <RadiantFire> iceyes: gksudo
[03:19] <jackal`inst> ah damn, last question :-/ root primary and rest extended?
[03:19] <delmar> Hi everyone. Can anyone recommend a SIP or IAX VoIP softphone to use on Ubuntu? Video support would be a bonus but not necessary.  Anyone have any suggestions??
[03:19] <MattSta> Can anyone help me?
[03:19] <sdfafs> okay so i only need 2 partitions for this to work??
[03:19] <squiggly> sdfafs: three or four would be ok too
[03:19] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: as long as you have less than 4 partitions, they can all be primary, it should not matter.
[03:20] <squiggly> ;p
[03:20] <jackal`inst> k now: bye :)
[03:20] <|rt|> sdfafs: i think you need 3 (root, boot, swap)...correct me if i'm wrong
[03:20] <cartesian1984> jackal`inst: good luck.
[03:20] <|rt|> i guess that swap could be optional
[03:20] <dibblego> crimsun: I am now booted off the live CD and everything seems to work fine
[03:20] <sdfafs> so how big should root and boot be???
[03:20] <cartesian1984> |rt|: yeah. And root/boot can be one partition.
[03:20] <elknof1> hi everybody, can someone tellme how to activate kaffeine to watch a movie on the s-video screen?? I use a ati mov rad 9000, while watching a movie i just can see a blue screen on kaffeine...  screen 2 (s-video)
[03:20] <iceyes> is the bug fixed, that what made it possible to read the password in the password field in plain text?
[03:20] <sdfafs> how big can it be
[03:20] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: depends on how much software you intend to install.
[03:20] <crimsun> dibblego: so you have a local change that severely mucked sometihng
[03:20] <crimsun> something^
[03:21] <MTecknology> How do I mount a USB disk?
[03:21] <sdfafs> alot
[03:21] <dibblego> crimsun: what exactly is a local change?
[03:21] <mike8901> is there an easy way to reset the password of an install of ubuntu? I feel like a dumbass, since I just installed ubuntu, and I can't login
[03:21] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: I've never had a need for more than 12GBs, and I installed things like mad. So 12 should be good.
[03:21] <dibblego> crimsun: perhaps it is that I fiddled with xorg.conf?
[03:21] <sdfafs> so i only need 2 partitions .. /boot and swap????
[03:21] <crimsun> dibblego: probably some package you installed
[03:21] <|rt|> sdfafs: boot doesn't need much...i have 128mb here...it's only using 19mb
[03:21] <dibblego> crimsun: ok, is there a way of resolving that problem?
[03:21] <jackal`inst> sdfafs, you are from?
[03:22] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: yeah, and /home if you'd like your personal files separate in case you have to reinstall. That way you don't have to backup.
[03:22] <sdfafs> oh im from canada
[03:22] <iceyes> is the bug fixed, that what made it possible to read the password in the password field in plain text?
[03:22] <sdfafs> thanx cartesian1984
[03:22] <spikeb> yes iceyes
[03:22] <crimsun> dibblego: you'll have to figure which package you installed that's causing it
[03:22] <cartesian1984> iceyes: with dapper, yes.
[03:22] <crimsun> dibblego: dpkg has a log in /var/log/
[03:22] <dibblego> crimsun: ok thanks
[03:23] <iceyes> cartesian1984, ok good. I just updated to dapper :)
[03:23] <dibblego> crimsun: I guess you can close the bug then :)
[03:23] <sdfafs> so let me get this strait swap = 512 MB and /boot = "whatetever"
[03:23] <cartesian1984> mike8901: are you still there?
[03:23] <crimsun> dibblego: I probably won't close it til we've got a really good idea of what happened
[03:23] <crimsun> dibblego: but yes, normally I would reject it now
[03:24] <WarOfAttrition_> well sorry for the bitching, thankfully once installed 6.06 ran great. have a nice day
[03:24] <sdfafs> umm so that swap = 512 and the /boot = to anything right??????
[03:24] <dibblego> crimsun: I'll probably end up just reinstalling and going one step at a time
[03:24] <Timir> mikere, back?
[03:24] <cartesian1984> mike8901: you can use grub to select recovery mode. from there, you can do 'sudo passwd username'.
[03:24] <crimsun> dibblego: ok
[03:24] <dibblego> crimsun: thanks very much for your assistance, it is most appreciate
[03:24] <dibblego> d
[03:24] <sdfafs> okay guys... SWAP = 512 and /boot = whatever right
[03:24] <cydrive> can someone here help me with VMware?
[03:25] <cartesian1984> sdfafs: that works.
[03:25] <crimsun> dibblego: np, g'luck
[03:25] <cartesian1984> cydrive: Whats the problem?
[03:25] <sdfafs> SOMEBODY LOL
[03:25] <grg> sdfafs - yes that should be fine
[03:25] <sdfafs> okya cool grg u da man
[03:25] <Dames_> Cydrive, how can we help you?
[03:26] <cydrive> i have a windows me boot disk but when i open up vmwate player it brings me to a navigation screen and says open a virtual machine how do i run my boot disk?
[03:26] <mikere> Timir: back now
[03:26] <cartesian1984> cydrive: I think you can't make a virtual machine with vmware player.
[03:26] <zanzabuntu> soooo
[03:26] <zanzabuntu> ubuntu menz
[03:27] <grg> i think with the vmwarwe player u can only run pre made virtual machines correct me if im wrong
[03:27] <PMantis> cydrive, Oh, you have to have someone with a full VMWare copy create a virtual machine that supports booting from a CD.
[03:27] <zanzabuntu> buffer i/o error on device dm-0 logical block #########
[03:27] <franky123> hey i've got two questions. first is there a way in apt to create a "clone system" file like yast can? and second, in synaptic there's a search function. is there any way to search through the packages from the terminal?
[03:27] <Timir> mikere, Okay, I think I -may- have found it, could it be called a Static Route?
[03:27] <ubuntu_Iz> is ubuntu intel2 cmopatible?
[03:27] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: intel2?
[03:27] <mikere> Timir: could be - definitely worth trying
[03:27] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: like a P2?
[03:27] <ubuntu_Iz> well, intelII
[03:27] <ubuntu_Iz> yeah
[03:27] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: yup.
[03:27] <cydrive> do you know anyway i could get ahold of a virtual machine like that?
[03:27] <mikere> Timir: what model netgear?
[03:27] <ubuntu_Iz> ok
[03:27] <ubuntu_Iz> ty
[03:28] <cartesian1984> ubuntu_Iz: use the i386 install CD.
[03:28] <zanzabuntu> i'm trying to boot up ubuntu from the live cd and recover a half-dead HD, but it gets hung up on load going thru all the buffer i/o error on device dm-0 logical block messages
[03:28] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[03:28] <ubuntu_Iz> aye, i had
[03:28] <grg> franky: you mean like  - apt-cache search <whatever>
[03:28] <zanzabuntu> is there any bootup option to skip these messages?
[03:28] <Timir> MIkere, lemme tell you the lil info boxes it has on it to add one, Route Name, (Private and Active checkboxes), Destination IP Address, IP Subnet Mask, Gateway IP Address, Metric
[03:28] <Dames_> Cydrive: Google is your friend.
[03:28] <mikere> Timir: hmm... not sure if that's it
[03:29] <cydrive> lol so true lol thanks
[03:29] <Timir> mikere, Are they forwarded ports or triggered ports to run the server?
[03:29] <mikere> Timir: I think both really
[03:29] <mikere> Timir: forwarded should do it I'd think
[03:29] <Timir> Mikere, Hm, what about "Use Router as a DHCP server"?
[03:30] <mikere> Timir: nope - that's not going to affect it
[03:30] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[03:30] <mikere> Timir: that just allows you to have your router automatically give ip addresses to your computers
[03:30] <MTecknology> How do I manually mount a USB disk??
[03:30] <cartesian1984> cyphase: oh, sorry, meant to msg cydrive
[03:30] <Timir> mikere, "Disable SPI firewall"? what's that?
[03:31] <mikere> Timir: what model number router?  I can mebbe look at the documentation for it and see if I can see what would look likely
[03:31] <apokryphos> MTecknology, ls /dev/sd* -- check the entry. Make a folder somewhere, and then use the moutn command
[03:31] <grg> do you mena a usb harddrive or a flashdisk?
[03:31] <mikere> Timir: dunno =)
[03:31] <mikere> Timir: things like that I read the manual
[03:31] <Timir> mikere, WGT624 V2
[03:33] <lufis> Hi. I installed enlightenment and now X won't work. The GUI login screen shows up, but when i try to log in, it acts as though it's working and then it just takes me back to the login screen. Any ideas?
[03:33] <ardchoille> wow, the xfce tean has been doing good things since I last used xfce :)
[03:33] <NickGarvey> :)
[03:33] <Timir> mikere, Found the disk that came with the router
[03:33] <cartesian1984> Hey hybrid.
[03:33] <mikere> Timir: got the manual online from their web site =)
[03:34] <MattSta> can anyone help me install games
[03:34] <hybrid> howdy cartesian1984
[03:34] <Timir> mikere, Cool, does it have NAT?
[03:34] <cartesian1984> MattSta: What kind of games are we talking about? Native linux, or emulated?
[03:34] <mikere> Timir: sifting through it now, it's like 80 pages ><
[03:34] <lufis> What are the configuration files which start the window manager?
[03:35] <MattSta> .... I am not sure, GTA San Andreas, Star Wars Jedi Academy and Path of Neo
[03:35] <cartesian1984> MattSta: Those we'll have to emulate. What kind of video card?
[03:35] <dli> lufis, use Sessions in gdm before login
[03:35] <lufis> dli: I'm having problems with that.
[03:36] <MattSta> Radeon 9600
[03:36] <cartesian1984> MattSta: I think that's supported by the open source radeon driver, am I right?
[03:36] <Dames_> I think so too. I remember seeing one floating around.
[03:36] <cartesian1984> All right.
[03:36] <`Chip`> Hey all
[03:37] <MattSta> I am afraid i don't know
[03:37] <mikere> Timir: yah, looking at it, I'd go with port forwarding - you'd have to add it as a custom service probably
[03:37] <cartesian1984> MattSta: do you have 3D acceleration? If not we could do a quick test.
[03:37] <`Chip`> Can someone lead me to a website with instructions on how to install and run Ubuntu Dapper from a USB Stick
[03:37] <Timir> mikere, I already have, but the ports are Still Closed
[03:37] <MattSta> i guess the quick test
[03:37] <cartesian1984> MattSta: run glxgears -printfps and see what it says.
[03:37] <Timir> I used www.whatsmyip.org to test the ports while it ran, nothing
[03:38] <mikere> Timir: did you try changing it to triggering?
[03:38] <Timir> mikere, No...I'm not sure how to do triggering...it's different
[03:38] <MattSta> cartesian1984: wow, this is new, i can't acess the terminal
[03:38] <`Chip`> Can someone lead me to a website with instructions on how to install and run Ubuntu Dapper from a USB Stick
[03:38] <mikere> Timir: should just have to click on the port triggering radio button under the port forwarding radio button
[03:39] <cartesian1984> MattSta: ah.......that could be a problem....
[03:39] <lufis> Does anyone know the configuration files which specify the window manager?
[03:39] <MattSta> ya, but i have done it before, there is an error message
[03:39] <cartesian1984> MattSta: What does it say?
[03:39] <`Chip`> guess not
[03:39] <grg> `chip: have you looked thru the unbuntu forums theres a few rthreads on usb booting
[03:39] <`Chip`> th aks anyways
[03:39] <ardchoille> ooohh, I'm loving xfce :)
[03:40] <`Chip`> k i will check it after
[03:40] <`Chip`> ;) thanks again
[03:40] <cartesian1984> ardchoille: The new one is really great isn't it?
[03:40] <MattSta> Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)
[03:40] <NickGarvey> ardchoille: all about the right click ;)
[03:40] <Timir> mikere, They just have a whole separate window for triggering..
[03:40] <ardchoille> cartesian1984: indeed it is :)
[03:40] <mikere> Timir: I'd try it
[03:40] <ardchoille> cartesian1984: lots of awesome improvements since last I used it :)
[03:40] <lufis> Those of you using XFCE: Have you had trouble with the menu editor? I opened it and it was blank; I closed it and my menu contents disappeared
[03:41] <Timir> mikere, Gotta enter Service Name, Service Type, Triggering port, then below that it's Required Inbound Connection, Connection Type, Starting Port, and Ending Port, and it's confusing me
[03:41] <MattSta> any ideas
[03:41] <mikere> Timir: hrm.....
[03:41] <ardchoille> NickGarvey: gotta have my right-click
[03:41] <Timir> mikere, Do I do UDP? or TCP?
[03:42] <cartesian1984> MattSta: click on the gnome panel, at the top. Right click - add to panel - custom application launcher.
[03:42] <mikere> Timir: I'm looking at the V3 manual - I thought it would be same as the V2 pretty much but going from what you are saing this is different
[03:42] <elie>  i want 2 creat a shortcut in usr/local/lib and it tellz me no permission??
[03:42] <mikere> Timir: UDP for sure for NWN
[03:42] <cartesian1984> MattSta: and put gnome-terminal in the application bar.
[03:42] <MattSta> cartesian1984: could u wait 5 minutes whilest i rest my computer
[03:42] <cartesian1984> MattSta: or command.
[03:42] <cartesian1984> MattSta: Yeah.
[03:42] <Timir> mikere, What port would be the triggering port? And what would be the starting and ending port?
[03:42] <skoalfinecut> um i got a dumb question
[03:42] <stone_> how to make USB DISK read & write?
[03:42] <skoalfinecut> how do i move files to a write protected folder?
[03:43] <grg> ok heres a curly one: I have an external firewire HDD with three HFS+ partitions. I can manually mount the first partiton as sda1 but the others dont show up. do any super pro's out there know if this normal? and can it be fixed? thanks :)
[03:43] <mikere> Timir: I'm not certain which is triggering port
[03:43] <Timir> mikere, And i have no clue...
[03:43] <mikere> Timir: might be a good idea to make a post in the NWN forum - after reading the current posts on the subject
[03:44] <mikere> Timir: it could be that someone's already configured a netgear 624 router for NWN and has documented the process =)
[03:45] <Timir> mikere, It could be that the Router firmware coder/Server coder were retards
[03:45] <Timir> =/
[03:45] <mikere> Timir: nah, more likely that we are =
[03:45] <Timir> mikere, Problem slightly more refined
[03:45] <parker`> Has anyone been able to get any Windows games to work inside of Linux (any distro?) I'm trying to play Guild Wars
[03:46] <Timir> mikere, Server software is indeed running, however, it's not being sent to the internet
[03:46] <Timir> mikere, What's a SPI firewall?
[03:46] <mikere> Timir: dunno
[03:46] <cartesian1984> parker`: you can do it under cedega.
[03:46] <Timir> mikere, Think that's the router's firewall?
[03:46] <cartesian1984> parker`: Guild Wars runs. You might need a nVidia card though.
[03:46] <mikere> Timir: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:otSOghin3CkJ:www.bighugegames.com/riseofnations/downloads/routerguide.doc+Microsoft+MN-100&hl=en - read that
[03:46] <MattSta> can someone help me access my terminal
[03:46] <parker`> I actually have an nVidia card, so that rocks, let me check out this cedega thing
[03:47] <cartesian1984> parker`: Its payware I'm afraid. You need to subscribe.
[03:47] <mikere> Timir: is there a UPnP page for your router?
[03:47] <Timir> mikere, Indeed
[03:47] <parker`> Lame!
[03:47] <parker`> Does WINE work by any chance?
[03:48] <MattSta> CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP
[03:48] <cartesian1984> parker`: I think so.
[03:48] <cartesian1984> MattSta: Yeah, hang on.
[03:48] <Toma-> MattSta: probably.
[03:48] <mikere> Timir: !!!!!!
[03:48] <Toma-> MattSta: what is the problem exactly?
[03:48] <mikere> Timir: remove your forwarding/triggering for nwn and try that as stated on the link  I just sent
[03:48] <MattSta> Toma-: when i click on the terminal there is an error
[03:49] <Timir> mikere, I didn't get a link..
[03:49] <Toma-> MattSta: thats no good. what the error?
[03:49] <parker`> time to embark on a 12 hour journey of trying to get GW to work in Linux while being a complete Linux newbie. hoorah
[03:49] <MattSta> Toma-: it reads "Details: Failed to execute child process "Terminal" (No such file or directory)"
[03:49] <mikere> Timir: http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:otSOghin3CkJ:www.bighugegames.com/riseofnations/downloads/routerguide.doc+Microsoft+MN-100&hl=en
[03:49] <Toma-> MattSta: thats because there is no program called Terminal
[03:49] <jackal`inst> parker`, just google "wine guildwars" and you will find many links - on some systems it works and on some not :)
[03:49] <Timir> mikere, ^^;; okay, thanks, I'll try it
[03:49] <Toma-> MattSta: did you make the shortcut?
[03:49] <harisund> Does anybody know how to get the gnome-screensaver work for the gdm login screen? It works when I am logged in, but I want it to enter the screensaver and then power off the monitor even when it is showing the gdm login screen ? ???
[03:50] <Toma-> Isnt the a linux client for guildwars?
[03:50] <salah> is there anyone who can help me convert a vcd into mpeg files please?
[03:50] <mikere> Timir: if that doesn't work, read http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=387975&forum=56
[03:50] <MattSta> but thats how i always accessed it, no, its always been in apps>system tools>terminal
[03:50] <jackal`inst> Toma-, no - only a petition
[03:50] <Toma-> salah: a do belive k3b can do that
[03:50] <salah> Toma-, no, it don't
[03:50] <salah> I have been trying all days
[03:50] <salah> *day
[03:50] <MattSta> Toma-: have  you ever seen this before
[03:51] <warty__> no i havent
[03:51] <warty__> k pedo
[03:51] <dg10050> heh, I broke Ubuntu. Had to reinstall
[03:51] <francesjan> hello, i'm having a problem printing from ubuntu to win2k server with HPDeskjet3744 printer...
[03:51] <dg10050> sux
[03:51] <Toma-> MattSta: many a time. Open Alacarte and make sure the progam getting run ir "gnome-terminal" not "Terminal"
[03:51] <MTecknology> How do I install DSL-N???
[03:51] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: you mean in vmware?
[03:51] <warty__> chingen su madre
[03:52] <salah> Toma-, anyways, how do I create a image of a CD?
[03:52] <Toma-> salah: well in theory, vcds ARE infact mpeg files. have you browsed the cd yet?
[03:52] <MTecknology> Nick, yea
[03:52] <zanzabuntu> any way to suppress boot I/O errors?
[03:52] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: use the gparted cd?
[03:52] <MattSta> what is Alcarte
[03:52] <Toma-> salah: ahhh so you want an image now?
[03:52] <warty__> whats up
[03:52] <zanzabuntu> i tkaes like 2 minutes for each bad block
[03:52] <cartesian1984> MattSta: its a menu editor
[03:52] <Toma-> MattSta: its under Apps > Accessories
[03:52] <pvd> How would I install a new version of python without messing up the one already installed by apt-get?
[03:52] <MTecknology> NickGarvey, I meant that I can't figure out the right boot command
[03:52] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: boot command?
[03:53] <warty__> where are you front
[03:53] <MattSta> hey it opened :)
[03:53] <warty__> ????
[03:53] <salah> Toma-, I have been trying to copy a VCD since 9 PM (clock is 4:22 AM now), so I will do EVERYTHING to get this VCD copied
[03:53] <Toma-> pvd: completely remove the current one, then compile latest and run checkinstall instead of make install
[03:53] <Timir> mikere, I don't understand how to set up UPnP
[03:53] <MattSta> but there was no alcarte
[03:53] <MTecknology> NickGarvey, where just pressing enter brings up the live session
[03:53] <snoops> yep Toma- vcd = mpeg layer 1, with a size dimension standard
[03:53] <warty__> heyyy
[03:53] <pvd> Toma-, so its safe to remove python
[03:53] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: you did install it though?
[03:53] <mevilla92> hola
[03:53] <Toma-> pvd: youre going to remove ALOT of things with it
[03:53] <NickGarvey> !es
[03:53] <MTecknology> NickGarvey, no
[03:53] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:53] <salah> snoops, any ideas?
[03:53] <warty__> hola
[03:53] <Warbo> pvd: Installing to /usr/local should prevent overwriting files
[03:53] <zaabi> 777yn
[03:54] <warty__> k onda
[03:54] <mevilla92> k pedo
[03:54] <snoops> salah so it's an image file on your pc, or on a cd?
[03:54] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: oh, you have partitioned though?
[03:54] <Toma-> pvd: otherwise, just install over the top and make sure you use ./configure prefix=/usr
[03:54] <warty__> k haces
[03:54] <MTecknology> NickGarvey, yea
[03:54] <pvd> that sounds like a good idea
[03:54] <salah> snoops, it's a vcd, on a CD
[03:54] <Timir> mikere, I also don't understand how exactly that link means..I mean, it kinda says what UPnP is, but not how to do anything with it.....
[03:54] <mevilla92> please use spanish because we dont understand english
[03:54] <NickGarvey> MTecknology: don't know how to install
[03:54] <MattSta> so now how do i install games
[03:54] <salah> snoops, I want to simply copy this VCD
[03:54] <NickGarvey> !es
[03:54] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:54] <pvd> I can't install gimme without a new version of Python, that is why I am upgrading.
[03:54] <snoops> salah can't you just do a dd then on the cd?
[03:54] <warty__> hello
[03:54] <warty__> hi
[03:54] <peluche>  p  kl
[03:54] <Toma-> Warbo: problem there is, sometimes apps will look at /usr by default and not /usr/local, meaning, crashes, locks and horrible nasty things
[03:55] <NickGarvey> mevilla92: lo siento pero necesitas ir #ubuntu-es o habla ingles :(
[03:55] <snoops> to make an image of it.. thus making a 1:1 copy
[03:55] <mikere> Timir: I think you just click the check box to turn it on
[03:55] <MTecknology> NickGarvey, no, it's a live distro with the option to install (DSL-N = Damn Small Linux Not)
[03:55] <Toma-> salah: gnomebaker does a good job
[03:55] <salah> no, I get error when trying to move the most important files: the .DAT files (which contains the video files)
[03:55] <Timir> mikere, It's already on
[03:55] <warty__> ok
[03:55] <warty__> ok
[03:55] <zaabi> ok
[03:55] <salah> Toma-, how do I start gnomebaker?
[03:55] <mevilla92> k pedo
[03:55] <warty__> nada we
[03:55] <mikere> Timir: hmm.. so much for that idea
[03:55] <warty__>  yt u???
[03:55] <tiburon> hello
[03:55] <snoops> ahh perhaps there are read errors (scratches) on the disc salah
[03:55] <MattSta> Can someone help me install games like GTA, and Star Wars
[03:55] <Toma-> salah: 'sudo apt-get install gnomebaker' then 'gnomebaker'
[03:55] <mevilla92> hi
[03:55] <warty__> k onda k hacien??
[03:55] <Dapallo> okay, i just installed a windows program with wine.  How do i run it?
[03:55] <Toma-> salah: its k3b for gnome basically
[03:56] <mevilla92> echando la weba y tu k pedo
[03:56] <Timir> mikere, It has an IP address, and all, and I dunno how to set it or change it..
[03:56] <salah> snoops, no, the VCD works fine with mplayer or the dvd player
[03:56] <Toma-> salah: the other thing, is it a multitrack vcd?
[03:56] <Dapallo> anyone?
[03:56] <mikere> Timir: shouldn't need to mess with it
[03:56] <warty__> USA is the worst in soccer
[03:56] <Warbo> Toma-: $PATH includes /usr/local, and libraries are set up for /usr/local too. I am also thinking that alternatives would help with multiple pythons
[03:56] <salah> Toma-, yes, so k3b don't support it
[03:56] <NickGarvey> mevilla92: va por favor
[03:56] <peluche> heyyyyyyyyyy
[03:56] <mikere> Timir: now have to read http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=387975&forum=56 - beware, it's long and you prolly have to read a lot of it
[03:56] <Toma-> salah: ahhh hold on then
[03:56] <Timir> mikere, It's set to Active: YEs Protocol: UDP Int. Port: 3074 Ext. Port: 3074, IP Address: 192.168.0.3
[03:56] <NickGarvey> mevilla92: estas "spamming"
[03:56] <warty__> CHINGEN SU MADRE
[03:57] <zaabi> hola adivina quien soy
[03:57] <NickGarvey> !es
[03:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:57] <Toma-> Warbo: some bad apps use /usr as $PATH only.
[03:57] <bonita> hello
[03:57] <Timir> It has Turn UPnP on, which is checked, Avertise Period(In minutes) set to 30, Advertise Time to Live (in hops) set to 4
[03:57] <Toma-> they deserve a slap across the face
[03:57] <Warbo> Dapallo: just double click it (you will find it in ~/.wine)
[03:57] <mevilla92> hola
[03:57] <mexmex> hola panzones de curso
[03:57] <mevilla92> ablen en espaol
[03:57] <peluche> heyyyyyy
[03:57] <mikere> Timir: yah, don't worry about that - it autodetects things on it's own - and lists them there
[03:57] <Toma-> salah: youll need to make a bin/cue image i thinks.
[03:57] <chascuas> que onda
[03:57] <bonita> hello
[03:57] <salah> Toma-, yes
[03:57] <warty__> mmmmmm...............
[03:57] <warty__> k onda
[03:57] <NickGarvey> !ops
[03:57] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[03:57] <bonita> contesta
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ???
[03:58] <warty__> k pd2
[03:58] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey: ?
[03:58] <Timir> mikere: You sure..?
[03:58] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: they are all speaking spanish and talking about mothers
[03:58] <peluche> ya me voy
[03:58] <snoops> so uhh salah if you dd if=/dev/yourcddrive of=/home/vcd.iso bs=1024.. that will return an error?
[03:58] <bonita> bye
[03:58] <gnomefreak> ar peluche
[03:58] <bonita> bye
[03:58] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: I have said !es many many times
[03:58] <chascuas> adios vayyyyyy
[03:58] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:58] <Toma-> salah: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77074.html
[03:58] <gnomefreak> that was easy ;)
[03:58] <dg10050> Can someone help me? The ATI driver install says I don't have "dpkg-architecture". Is there any way to fix that?
[03:59] <mikere> Timir: pretty sure
[03:59] <Warbo> dg10050: Are you installing Ubuntu's packages?
[03:59] <MattSta> can someone help me install games PLEASE?
[03:59] <dg10050> yes
[03:59] <Toma-> MattSta: what games?
[03:59] <salah> snoops, nope, but the file is on 0 bytes
[03:59] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: :)
[03:59] <dg10050> warbo: yes
[03:59] <Timir> mikere, Not being broadcast, should I reset the router?
[03:59] <MattSta> Toma-: GTA Star Wars and Path of Neo
[04:00] <Warbo> dg10050: Hmm. Never had that problem. At what point does this error occur?
[04:00] <Toma-> MattSta: youll need cedega
[04:00] <snoops> salah and obviously you replaced the /dev/yourcddrive with your actual device
[04:00] <Toma-> !cedega
[04:00] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on wine, aimed at running windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega
[04:00] <elie> y when i start a game it say: LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded
[04:00] <cartesian1984> MattSta: Yeah. The games you mentioned earlier were for windows, so they have to be run under cedega or wine. Cedega is better, but it payware. Wine is FOSS.
[04:00] <elie> what is LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded?
[04:00] <salah> snoops, sure
[04:00] <mikere> Timir: you need to read http://nwn.bioware.com/forums/viewtopic.html?topic=387975&forum=56
[04:00] <dg10050> Warbo: When I'm trying to create a Ubuntu package.
[04:01] <MattSta> what is FOSS, and i have problems with WINE, when i try to install something i cant choose a dir
[04:01] <Warbo> dg10050: Try the packages which are already in Ubuntu
[04:01] <Warbo> MattSta: Free Open Source Software
[04:01] <dg10050> I'd like the latest driver...
[04:01] <dg10050> Warbo: This is what it says:
[04:01] <dg10050> [04:01] <dg10050>  ATI Technologies Linux Driver Installer/Packager
[04:01] <dg10050> [04:01] <dg10050> Generating package: Ubuntu/6.06
[04:01] <dg10050> ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 55: dpkg-architecture: command not foundError: unsupported architecture:
[04:01] <elie> any1 tried the new ati driverz>/
[04:02] <dg10050> I had to reinstall Ubuntu though
[04:02] <dg10050> Now I can't get them to work
[04:02] <MattSta> cartesian1984: so how do i get through those problems
[04:02] <elie> is it better,whats the diff?
[04:02] <Warbo> dg10050: hang on.....
[04:02] <mikere> Timir: could try making your nwn server computer your DMZ computer in the router settings
[04:02] <Toma-> dg10050: dont EVER paste in here, or youll be banned.
[04:02] <dg10050> Toma: Sorry...
[04:02] <Toma-> tis k
[04:02] <Toma-> use pastebin
[04:02] <NickGarvey> !paste > dg10050
[04:02] <Toma-> and read the /topic
[04:02] <dg10050> k
[04:03] <Warbo> AA! I can't use sudo! Hmmm, I'll try it in a different system...
[04:03] <elie> dg10050 is it workingnow or not?
[04:03] <dg10050> Could Automatix be the problem?
[04:03] <dg10050> I used it before installing the driver
[04:04] <Cornellius> What's the easiest way to install Reiser4 on Ubuntu ?
[04:04] <Warbo> dg10050: You need to install dpkg-dev
[04:04] <Toma-> automatix is evil. easyubuntu is the future!
[04:04] <dg10050> k
[04:04] <elie> how can i enable the root user?
[04:04] <Warbo> Toma-: Easyubuntu is the present, Automatix is the past :)
[04:04] <Toma-> yeh :D
[04:04] <Warbo> elie: Why?
[04:04] <Timir2> Freaking router
[04:04] <cartesian1984> elie: you're not logging in directly as root, are you?
[04:04] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:05] <Timir2> "Oh, we're not WARNING you that this will actually KNOCK YOU OFFLINE. But it will anyway."
[04:05] <elie> no y?
[04:05] <Warbo> elie: Enabling root is pretty easy, but it shouldn't be done
[04:05] <Dapallo> where does wine keep all of its installed windows programs?
[04:05] <elie> i was,then i installed kubuntu and it say root disabled...
[04:05] <Warbo> Dapallo: ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files
[04:05] <salah> Dapallo, /home/yourusername/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/
[04:06] <Dapallo> okay thanx
[04:06] <Timir2> mikere, What about Advertisement PEriod and Advertisement TIme To Live?
[04:06] <salah> same time, Warbo ;)
[04:06] <mikere> Timir: not terribly relevent right now - I'd give up on UPnP for now
[04:06] <elie> i had enableit b4 installing kubutu(ihad ubutu) and now i tried 2 login and it wont work,but y it shouldnt be enabled?
[04:06] <jackal`inst> ehm...wanted to use opera and now it asks for my distribution and proposes to take "xandros 2.0-3.0" - i got xubuntu 6.06 installed and there is a possibility to choose "ubuntu 6.06 dapper drake" -> which one shall i take? :)
[04:06] <skavenge> boy limwire/frostwire is finicky for me, crashes on core components 3/4 of the time, dissapointing.
[04:07] <Timir2> mikere, *SHrug* Sounds like my best option, not like there's anything else at all that I can do
[04:07] <salah> jackal`inst, you can just take ubuntu dapper :)
[04:07] <mikere> Timir2: could try DMZ
[04:07] <jackal`inst> salah, hm k :)
[04:07] <Timir2> mikere, What's that?
[04:07] <Warbo> elie: Sudo lets normal users run programs as super user. If you log in as root then you can easily destroy your system (even if you don't mean to, any hacker or virus [however improbable]  would have root access)
[04:07] <gnomefreak> jackal`inst: dapper drake
[04:07] <jackal`inst> kk thx :)
[04:08] <mikere> Timir2: set up one computer in a demilitarized one (DMZ) that forwards everything to your server in addition to allowing regular traffic to other computers
[04:08] <Warbo> skavenge: gtk-gnutella is pretty basic, so shouldn't cause any problems
[04:08] <elie> Warbo: then how do i disable it?
[04:08] <dg10050> Now it says it can't find "dh_testdir"....
[04:08] <mikere> Timir2: it's not as secure for the server computer but you can worry about that later
[04:08] <Timir2> mikere, How do I do that?
[04:08] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:08] <mikere> Timir2: sec
[04:08] <skavenge> Warbo: i will give it a try thanks
[04:09] <elie> Warbo: then how do i disable it?
[04:09] <mikere> Timir2: click WAN setup link on advanced section
[04:09] <Warbo> elie: If you have root enabled then log in as root in a terminal and use "passwd -l"
[04:10] <tyler> what
[04:10] <Timir> OKAY, now Lets try this NOW
[04:10] <JohnP789> I'd like to install Dapper with / on an empty LVM2 logical volume.  The installer doesn't seem to allow choosing an LV, though.
[04:10] <Warbo> elie: (log in as root that is)
[04:10] <mikere> Timir2: btw, what is ip address of the server computer (NOT your router/external IP)
[04:10] <JohnP789> Any ideas how to get Dapper installed there?  Maybe some chroot trick?
[04:10] <Timir> mikere, 192.168.0.6 is it's local IP
[04:10] <tyler> whats up penguin
[04:10] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:10] <MForlornPenguin> errr?
[04:10] <elie> warbo:it say:
[04:10] <elie> login: root
[04:10] <elie> Login incorrect
[04:11] <mikere> Timir: ok - I'm gonna have you double check that on the mandrake box - in a console type ifconfig to verify ip
[04:11] <tyler> you lost me totally\
[04:11] <Warbo> JohnP789: You need to set up the physical volumes first, then add them to a volume group then make a logical volume and put "Use as: /"
[04:11] <dg10050> Warbo: now it says it can't find "dh_testdir"
[04:11] <Warbo> elie: Then root is disabled
[04:11] <tyler> what are you talking about??
[04:11] <mikere> Timir: once you've done that and know you have the right ip, log in to router, click advanced and then WAN setup
[04:11] <elie> k thnx
[04:11] <mikere> Timir: then type in 192.168.0.6 to be the DMZ server
[04:12] <Warbo> dg10050: You can use "dpkg -S <searchterm>" to find out which package something is in (that's what I did with dpkg-architecture)
[04:12] <tyler> assassin5 you out there
[04:12] <dg10050> k
[04:12] <JohnP789> Warbo: The PVs and LVs exist already (from an old Fedora Core 3 installation).  The graphical installer for Dapper doesn't list any LV's as choices for /.
[04:12] <elie> any1 got serious sam?
[04:12] <dg10050> Warbo: it didn't find it...
[04:12] <Warbo> JohnP789: Oh, I haven't tried the graphical installer (I know it uses GParted at some point, and I know GParted doesn't support LVM)
[04:13] <JohnP789> How do I launch the text installer from an already-running Warty?
[04:13] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:13] <JohnP789> I want to leave the Warty installation alone and install on the empty LVM2 LV.
[04:13] <Timir> mikere, It says that 192.168.0.2 is it's inet:, Bcast or Mask mean anything?
[04:13] <Warbo> dg10050: Then there is not a package for it in Ubuntu. I don't see why you don't go with Ubuntu's packages (or search for some precompiled packages ones on Google)
[04:14] <jackal`inst> icq for linux is not available or? cause i found a download for mac...so...?
[04:14] <dg10050> The latest ones are much better
[04:14] <mikere> Timir: haha, then THAT is why none of htis has worked - 192.168.0.2 not 192.168.0.6
[04:14] <bimberi> jackal`inst: gaim does icq
[04:14] <dg10050> bye
[04:14] <mikere> Timir: afk a min again - wife insists that I eat food, brb
[04:14] <Timir> mikere, I typoed, it's 196.168.0.6
[04:14] <jackal`inst> bimberi, but there is no real icq, right?
[04:14] <jackal`inst> native icq
[04:14] <mikere> Timir: ah - then go with the DMZ thing
[04:15] <Timir> mikere, 192.168.0.2 is my Mac, which I have it permanently set for forwarded ports.
[04:15] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:15] <Timir> mikere, Already done so, nothing, absolutely nothing
[04:15] <Warbo> jackal`inst: GAIM is emulated? Wow
[04:15] <MattSta> ya i am still unable to install games
[04:16] <ktstone> could someone please walk me through adding additional refresh rates in xorg.conf?  I've been trying for a week now with no luck
[04:16] <Warbo> MattSta: Have you checked to see if your games are supported by Cedega?
[04:16] <bimberi> jackal`inst: there's probably no linux client like the windows irq client no.  Then again, I've never looked :)
[04:16] <gnomefreak> !fixres > kyncani
[04:16] <MattSta> no, and i can bei
[04:17] <elie> any1 got serious sam?
[04:17] <ruxpin> there's no i686 version of ubuntu available?
[04:17] <FutureHam> can anyone point me at what voodoo I'm going to need to perform to connect to a WPA1 secured AP with Drake?
[04:17] <MattSta> Warbo:no and i can begin to run the installer its just picking a directory crashes it
[04:18] <NickGarvey> Cornellius: reiser should be installed by default, format using mkfs.reiser4 or mkfs.reiserfs
[04:18] <Warbo> MattSta: WINE is not designed for games, it is designed forapplications. Cedega is designed for games. WINE uses a general method for implementing Windows functions and APIs, so many programs work. Cedega focuses on one game, gets it working, then moves on to the next. Therefore Cedega will need to support your game otherwise it will not run. WINE may run it, but a) I doubt it and b) It would be very slow
[04:19] <rpedro> !fixres > ktstone
[04:19] <Cornellius> NickGarvey: Ubuntu's using ReiserFS 3.4
[04:19] <cartesian1984> Though Wine was originally intended for games, I think.
[04:19] <MattSta> Warbo: oh, how often does Cedega work
[04:19] <cartesian1984> Cornellius: any intention to upgrade to 4.0?
[04:19] <NickGarvey> Cornellius: I have mkfs.reiser4 as a command.. and I don't have any reiserfs installed
[04:19] <cartesian1984> MattSta: they have a list of supported games at transgaming.org
[04:19] <Cornellius> NickGarvey: Ah, I'll try that then
[04:20] <Warbo> cartesian1984: WINE is over a decade old, and was originally for 16bit Windows (like 3.1) so games like Chips Challenge should run in it :)
[04:20] <Cornellius> cartesian1984: Would like to.
[04:20] <NickGarvey> nick@ubuntu:~$ mkfs.reiser4 -V :::mkfs.reiser4 1.0.5:::Copyright (C) 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 by Hans Reiser, licensing governed by reiser4progs/COPYING
[04:20] <NickGarvey> Cornellius: the ::: is where a newline would be
[04:20] <Cornellius> Warbo: StarCraft works like a charm on Wine :)
[04:20] <skavenge> is there a gnome theme editor in the repos at all? how does someone go about changing one? i'd actually just like to change the color of the text on an existing one ..
[04:20] <cartesian1984> Cornellius, oh, sorry for my vagueness, I meant do you think Ubuntu will have support?
[04:20] <Warbo> MattSta: Cedega works probably 90% of the time (and that 10% is people who can't be bothered to get it going) but ONLY for games which it supports
[04:21] <Cornellius> cartesian1984: Ubuntu use 3.4 for ReiserFS as they feel like 4 is stable enough yet. A friend of mine's using ver. 4 and haven't experienced any problems yet. He's not using Ubuntu though.
[04:22] <MattSta> i dont have any money though to pay for it
[04:22] <rpedro> MattSta: you need to run winecfg first, to configure drives
[04:22] <Warbo> Reiser4 is not stable enough for Linux, it is not really Ubuntu's choice
[04:22] <snoops> Cornellius yeah those bouncing trees in reiser4 scare people ;)
[04:23] <roostishaw> where can i find a dapper vm?
[04:23] <Cornellius> Warbo: I know that :)
[04:23] <Warbo> roostishaw: VMWare? KQemu? XEN?
[04:23] <Cornellius> vm ?
[04:24] <roostishaw> vmware
[04:24] <Warbo> !vmware
[04:24] <roostishaw> .vmx i guess
[04:24] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[04:24] <MattSta> rpedro: how do i do that
[04:24] <roostishaw> that wont help, i know what it is
[04:24] <Cornellius> Ah, stupid me
[04:24] <Warbo> That's a very well layed out guide that is :)
[04:24] <rpedro> MattSta: did you run winecfg?
[04:24] <Cornellius> Yes I know :P
[04:24] <Warbo> (I wrote it)
[04:25] <MattSta> ya
[04:25] <Warbo> roostishaw: What is the problem them?
[04:25] <MattSta> rpedro: check
[04:25] <Xoritor> anyone here usded k9copy?
[04:25] <roostishaw> Warbo, i can t find a precompiled vm of dapper...
[04:25] <roostishaw> Warbo, only 5.10
[04:25] <rpedro> MattSta: go to the drives tab, and click 'autodetect', then click ok and you're done
[04:26] <Warbo> roostishaw: Ah, an image? There are a few tricks you can use to install stuff using the "free" player
[04:26] <roostishaw> Warbo, go on... :D
[04:26] <MattSta> rpedro: ok, then how do i get Cedega, even though i am broke
[04:26] <Warbo> roostishaw: Well I had a bookmark of it, but my drive failed :(
[04:27] <roostishaw> :(
[04:27] <rpedro> MattSta: usually you have to b
[04:27] <rpedro> MattSta: *usually you have to pay for cedega
[04:27] <MattSta> rpedro: uh oh
[04:27] <Timir> mikere, I think I see the problem, but I'm unaware of a way to solve it
[04:27] <rpedro> MattSta: but I think you can still fetch the source from cvs and compile it yourself
[04:28] <Warbo> MattSta: Cedega cannot be free since it basically breaks copy protection, and Transgaming need to pay for a licence to do this
[04:28] <mikere> Timir: what is it?
[04:28] <Timir> mikere, It seems the ports are Closed
[04:28] <rpedro> MattSta: no 'free' packages are available cause Transgaming sort of disallows it
[04:28] <sklav> Hi ubuntonians
[04:28] <Timir> mikere, To spite all port forwarding, DMZ,, UPnP
[04:28] <sklav> hehe
[04:28] <Timir> The router Will Not Open the damnedable ports
[04:28] <Warbo> MattSta: Generally: Windows Program? Use WINE. DirectX? Use WineX. Copy Protected? Use Cedega. Most games are copy protected
[04:29] <cartesian1984> Warbo: whats WineX?
[04:29] <mikere> Timir: can you connect to the server from another computer on your LAN?
[04:29] <Timir> mikere, Yes.
[04:29] <Timir> mikere, With no problems at all
[04:29] <mikere> Timir: then the ports are open on the server
[04:30] <Warbo> cartesian1984: It is a free version of Cedega, made by Transgaming, with the licensed stuff taken out. I think WINE has incorporated it now though
[04:30] <Timir> mikere, Only locally though
[04:30] <sklav> before i ask a question someone else has... Why is getting nvidia to work on ubuntu 6 such a pain it was smoother in 5.10
[04:30] <rpedro> MattSta: http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wiwimod/index.php?page=HOWTO+Cedega+CVS
[04:30] <mikere> Timir: can another person connect to your server with direct IP connection?
[04:30] <Timir> mikere, I can not from the internet, and I tried www.whatismyip.org and it denies that they're open
[04:30] <sklav> Timir which router?
[04:30] <Warbo> sklav: I always use the same method, Debian Sarge, Ubuntu Breezy and Dapper, works the same
[04:31] <sklav> Warbo so do i i just found it didnt do what it was supposed to
[04:31] <mikere> sklav: he has a netgear WGT624 V2
[04:31] <rpedro> MattSta: there are probably other howtos for ubuntu, but I haven't botheres to look, wine works fine for me :)
[04:31] <snoops> sklav was incredibly simple to get the binary nvidia driver going here.. apt-get the drivers.. run the config... done
[04:31] <Warbo> sklav: There are a few ways of doing it. I always use module-assistant (and I have been told that the Wiki page is a bit dodgy)
[04:32] <mikere> Timir: have another site to test your ports, one sec
[04:32] <Lews> When adding a custom line to /etc/apt/sources.list, is there any way to specify that I only want to install certain packages from that source?
[04:32] <fiveiron> i'm trying to mount an nfs share, and i'm getting permission denied errors... the entry is in /etc/exports and the host is in host.allow and hosts
[04:32] <fiveiron> any ideas?
[04:32] <Warbo> Lews: add the repo, update, install what you want, disable the repo
[04:32] <Lews> Ick, I was afraid of that...
[04:32] <mikere> Timir: try grc.com and I think it's called shields up
[04:33] <sklav> for the guys with the router issue see if you router is available on this howto page they have step by step instructions http://www.portforward.com/default.htm
[04:33] <Warbo> Lews: You adding a Debian mirror or something?
[04:33] <Timir> mikere, okay, that's the right site
[04:33] <Lews> No, custom repository for Vim 7
[04:34] <Lews> Unfortunately, it also contains some updates to unrelated programs like Gaim and nmap that I don't want to mess with
[04:34] <Warbo> Lews: Then don't do an upgrade then, like I said just install the packages you want then disable it
[04:34] <mikere> Timir: you can specify which ports you wish to test
[04:35] <Timir> mikere, with what on that site?
[04:36] <Warbo> Has anybody got a problem I can fix? I need some justification for getting some ice-cream
[04:36] <mikere> timir: on grc.com, click on Shields Up
[04:36] <mikere> Timir: or just try https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[04:36] <Timir> mikere, And that'll work on Linux?
[04:36] <mikere> Timir: it just checks open ports
[04:37] <sklav> Timir check the following out http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm
[04:37] <sklav> this is the exact link to the routers page
[04:37] <sklav> there is a walk threw
[04:38] <Timir> sklav, I already forwarded all it's ports, and it still was adamant in refusing to open them
[04:38] <psteeldart> New to Linux - Newbie question. I installed a LAMP server. I thought Gnome was also installed. If it is how do I start it? Thanks
[04:38] <pid42> is it ok to compile with sudo?
[04:38] <Timir> sklav, I turned on DMZ and it STILL will not let the computer send stuff out
[04:39] <Warbo> psteeldart: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[04:39] <sklav> Timir, dmz assumes a different segment
[04:39] <sklav> from the internal network
[04:39] <psteeldart> warbo thanks I will give it a try
[04:39] <Warbo> psteeldart: If it is not found then "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[04:40] <sklav> Timir, your default gateway is it configured?
[04:40] <Timir> sklav, how do you mean?
[04:40] <sklav> Timir dmz assumes example network 192.168.2.1
[04:40] <Dapallo> hey, when ever I go to someone elses house with a wire/wireless network.  I cant connect.  Why not?
[04:40] <ktstone> I'm still having problems getting additional refresh rates available in System>Preferences>Screen Resolution-  85Hz is the only option which causes flicker.  I've followed all instructions I could find so far with no luck.  Can someone help please?
[04:40] <sklav> internal assumes 192.168.1.1
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > Dapallo, stop stealing their internet connection
[04:41] <[Ex0r] > :)
[04:41] <Dapallo> lol
[04:41] <Warbo> Dapallo: Wire = Different IP address? Wireless = Different network name/key?
[04:41] <sklav> dmz and internal network cannot be in the same network range
[04:41] <salah> Toma-, thanks so much for the link you gave me
[04:41] <Timir> sklav, Yeah, the server is 192.168.0.6 which has been confirmed by ifconfig
[04:41] <Dapallo> yes
[04:41] <Timir> sklav, and I set DMZ to that
[04:41] <ruth> guys, which is the iconfile name of the ubuntu logo in gnome?
[04:41] <Dapallo> see, it will say im connected
[04:41] <ruth> I want to replace it
[04:41] <Dapallo> but i cant connect on Gaim, or Firefox
[04:41] <Dapallo> or any other interenet app
[04:41] <sklav> and what is the internal network ip?
[04:41] <Timir> mikere, If it means anything, it says Solicited TCP packets: Recieved, and the Unsolicited, and Ping Echo were refused
[04:42] <sklav> example the station you are on now
[04:42] <Warbo> Dapallo: I am guessing that the machine you are connecting to is Windows?
[04:42] <Dapallo> who me?
[04:42] <Timir> mikere, so it only did the TCP packets thing, and ignored the rest
[04:42] <Dapallo> no
[04:42] <Timir> sklav, Uhm, the one I'm on now is 192.168.0.2
[04:42] <Dapallo> Im just trying to connect to the router
[04:42] <mikere> Timir: hrm...
[04:42] <sklav> timir that doesnt sound right
[04:42] <[Ex0r] > Dapallo, do the people know you are trying to ?
[04:42] <noway-> hey guys, I am having problems installing the nvidia drivers...
[04:43] <Dapallo> yeah
[04:43] <Dapallo> its my friends house
[04:43] <noway-> I tried both directions on the boards, and on the nvidia site
[04:43] <[Ex0r] > ya know, I wanted to open up a small wifi coffee house in town
[04:43] <Warbo> Dapallo: If it is a Linux machine then make sure you set up your gateway as the Internet connected machine, and set up IP Masquerading on that machine (Firestarter can do this for you)
[04:43] <Dapallo> Warbo: im not trying to connect to another machine.  Just the router
[04:43] <Timir> sklav, you mean the TCP packets or somethin?
[04:43] <fiveiron> !nfs
[04:43] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[04:43] <noway-> Everytime I try to run it, it says I am running in X.  I have to restart in terminal mode to get it to run, but I dont want to do that again.
[04:44] <Warbo> Dapallo: OK, if it uses DHCP then it should be pretty simple
[04:44] <sklav> Timir i mean the ip address
[04:44] <noway-> I have tried to hit cltr+alt+F1, but it still gives me the same error.
[04:44] <mikere> Timir: bah, looks like it only does TCP and not UDP - probably same thing on the other site you checked
[04:44] <Dapallo> yes it does
[04:44] <ruth> I want to replace it
[04:44] <sklav> your internal network and your dmx network are on the same segment
[04:44] <ruth> guys, which is the iconfile name of the ubuntu logo in gnome?
[04:44] <noway-> Am I missing something?
[04:44] <Dapallo> as i said though
[04:44] <Timir> sklav, what's that mean?
[04:44] <Dapallo> it says its connected
[04:44] <Dapallo> but i cant connect on gaim, or firefox, or any other interent app
[04:45] <sklav> Dapallo, have you setup dns?
[04:45] <Warbo> ruth: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/apps/distributor-logo.png
[04:45] <psteeldart> Warbo do I run the commands from root or logged in. I tried logged in and got E: Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop trying to install
[04:45] <Dapallo> umm, i dont know
[04:45] <zer0> hey all
[04:45] <sklav> Dapallo, check /etc/resolv.conf
[04:45] <zer0> anyone know what package would contain the man page for execve()?
[04:45] <Dapallo> when I installed ubuntu, it asked me to config my network settings.  so i did, but for my home wireless network
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > zer0, man execve
[04:46] <zer0> !man execve
[04:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about man execve
[04:46] <sklav> did you put your isp dns information?
[04:46] <weakwire> hi how can i compile a driver from the kernel? 2.6.12.* like this? http://web.tagus.ist.utl.pt/~ricardo.cruz/sonyDebianHowTo/debian-vaio-fs215s.htm#Section_V  thank you
[04:46] <Warbo> psteeldart: log in to a normal user and run it (maybe "sudo apt-get update" or "sudo aptitude")
[04:46] <Dapallo> and it connects fine to mine
[04:46] <salah> which burning program can handle .img files?
[04:46] <ruth> Warbo, thnxs!
[04:46] <Dapallo> sklav: yes
[04:46] <zer0> zer0@erinys:~$ man execve
[04:46] <zer0> No manual entry for execve
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > hmm
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > dunno than
[04:46] <[Ex0r] > sorry
[04:46] <zer0> thnx anyways
[04:46] <zer0> anyone else know what package?
[04:46] <Warbo> ruth: Yay, now I have earned some ice-cream!
[04:46] <zer0> I installed glibc-doc and nothing
[04:47] <rixxon> zer0: execve is a system call
[04:47] <Dapallo> sklav: any idea?
[04:47] <zer0> ok, I also tried kernel-doc and nothing either
[04:47] <ruth> Warbo, do not understand :P
[04:47] <Anthrax777> Hi, GaiaX11
[04:47] <zer0> and I beleive it's also a glibc wrapper for the execve sys_call
[04:47] <ruth> Warbo, I understood
[04:47] <ruth> Warbo, lol
[04:48] <GaiaX11> Anthrax777, Hi
[04:48] <jbalint> isnt there a big package for development stuff?
[04:48] <roostishaw> what, in bash, is similar to sockets in python? i mean how could i do a very simple chat script?
[04:48] <ruth> Warbo, ice cream here www.naughtyallie.com
[04:48] <zer0> actually there is a whole execve group of functions that are glibc wrappers to the system call
[04:48] <jbalint> roostishaw: you can actually create sockets in bash
[04:48] <weakwire> anyone to help me?
[04:48] <roostishaw> oh...  :D
[04:48] <Dapallo> is there any other network connection program i can get for ubuntu
[04:48] <Dapallo> instead of the defualt one
[04:48] <zer0> nah you cant create sockets in bash
[04:48] <Warbo> ruth: Can't type, eating :)
[04:48] <zer0> unless you are using an app like netcat
[04:48] <roostishaw> jbalint, and you can send messages and such through them?
[04:49] <jbalint> zer0: yes you can, look up poor mans telnet
[04:49] <jbalint> zer0: its implemented in pure bash
[04:49] <roostishaw> jbalint, and you can send messages and such through them?
[04:49] <ruth> Warbo, cannot answer...drinking "mate"
[04:49] <zer0> jbalint, poor mans telnet? don't know it but NO there are no native socket calls in bash
[04:49] <zer0> try man bash if you don't beleive me
[04:49] <jbalint> zer0: i will find this script and show you. 1 minute\
[04:49] <zer0> ok cool
[04:49] <roostishaw> ^^
[04:50] <roostishaw> i second that
[04:50] <jbalint> http://people.redhat.com/twaugh/ftp/pmt/
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Anybody tried the Skype for Linux beta?
[04:50] <zer0> I would love to know how
[04:50] <zer0> brb, looking
[04:50] <jbalint>  3<>/dev/tcp/$1/$port
[04:50] <snoops> while ago tonyyarusso
[04:50] <tanlaan> i have an imac, with ubuntu on it...can i get JRE*java runtime environment* installed and working?
[04:50] <jbalint> wierd it is....
[04:50] <parker`> hey guys.. having a video problem here... I installed the nVidia drivers for my nVidia card, and it recognized my card and everything, but I can't use OpenGL at all... I already have a bunch of Mesa stuff installed by default, but I can't get OpenGL to work at all... not even the screen savers
[04:50] <snoops> wasn't impressed at all.. so many versions behind the windows one
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> snoops: How long has it been out?
[04:50] <Aviatrixie> hi all  :)
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> It was just dugg, so it can't have been long.
[04:51] <snoops> umm.. I tried it out last year sometime
[04:51] <lophyte> good evening everyone
[04:51] <tanlaan> i own an imac with ubuntu is there anyway i can get JRE installed and working?
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> snoops: Different version.
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> The changelog is dated today.
[04:51] <Warbo> Mornin' lophyte
[04:51] <Rug> Howdy all
[04:51] <snoops> heh, excellent.. have they added video support yet tonyyarusso?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> snoops: I'll look (http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/changelog.html, btw).
[04:52] <lophyte> tanlaan: there's a jre package you can install.. I forget what its called specifically
[04:52] <parker`> anyone have any ideas on getting OpenGL to work?
[04:52] <roostishaw> zer0, http://www.troubleshooters.com/codecorn/sockets/
[04:52] <roostishaw> no?
[04:52] <tonyyarusso> snoops: Doesn't look like it.
[04:52] <tanlaan> well i just wanted to know if it would install right if i installed the linux JRE
[04:52] <sklav> parker`, nvidia-glx-config enable?
[04:52] <Warbo> parker`: What graphics card do you have?
[04:52] <Rug> parker`: goto a terminal and type:  glxinfo |grep direct
[04:52] <parker`> GeForce4 Ti 4400
[04:53] <H2> tanlaan, try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[04:53] <snoops> tonyyarusso sigh.. so they're still a good year behind the windows version. *frustration*
[04:53] <parker`> I got this a bunch:  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[04:53] <tanlaan> ok ill try that
[04:53] <will_> Hey!
[04:53] <Timir> *Sigh*
[04:53] <lophyte> howdy will_
[04:54] <will_> I was wondering if someone could reccomend me some good music making software for Ubuntu
[04:54] <Warbo> parker`: I would do "sudo apt-get install module-assistant nvidia-kernel-source nvidia-glx && sudo m-a"
[04:54] <Rug> parker`: ok , next step;  in your xorg.conf file; does it say nvidia or nv for driver?
[04:54] <weakwire> hi how can i compile a driver from the kernel? 2.6.12.* like this? http://web.tagus.ist.utl.pt/~ricardo.cruz/sonyDebianHowTo/debian-vaio-fs215s.htm#Section_V  thank you
[04:54] <will_> hey lophyte!
[04:54] <zer0> well I'll be a monkeys uncle
[04:54] <parker`> it says nv instead of nvidia
[04:54] <zer0> I guess you can do raw sockets in bash
[04:54] <roostishaw> sweet
[04:54] <Warbo> parker`: nv is Free but has no 3D
[04:54] <zer0> anyways, I still don't know how to install man pages for execve? anyone?
[04:54] <Rug> parker`: change it to nvidia and restart Xorg
[04:54] <gnufied> i am trying to compile emacs on dapper...
[04:54] <sklav> parker`, did you modify xorg.cong and change nv to nvidia?
[04:54] <Nameeater> is there the sun java packages in any of the repo's? I think I have all the binary repo's enabled but I cant find it
[04:55] <parker`> I will do that in just one second, I am running the command Warbo advised
[04:55] <lophyte> Nameeater, I don't believe so.. just the blackhawk java
[04:55] <gnufied> and i keep getting error "Can not open termcap database file"
[04:55] <Aviatrixie> Automatix has always worked for me. I know that it used to be a naughty word in here, but my experience has been good. Java is an option in Automatix.
[04:55] <Warbo> parker`: That is for building the driver. It is useless if you already have it
[04:55] <parker`> oh lol
[04:55] <parker`> too late
[04:55] <parker`> exited..
[04:55] <Nameeater> I thought there was some big deal between Ubuntu and Java about letting them package their java and have it in the repo's :/
[04:55] <parker`> let's see
[04:55] <gnufied> any ideas? i think...this is one common problem with ubuntu...but termcap package seems to be deprecated
[04:55] <zer0> so no one knows how to install the man pages for execve in ubuntu?
[04:55] <Rug> parker`: get the feeling that there is too much help available for ya?
[04:56] <gnufied> it needs libc5...and that i am not able to install...
[04:56] <gnufied> any ideas?
[04:56] <psteeldart> Warbo: looks like it is checking the install disk for ubuntu-desktop and not finding it. I will down load the desktop install and try again. I only have the server install. Thanks for the info.
[04:56] <parker`> Rug: too much is a hell of a lot better than not enough, I'll tell you that much
[04:56] <Aviatrixie> ?
[04:56] <Rug> parker`: just leave your nickle on the table on the way out
[04:56] <Warbo> psteeldart: Do you have Internet access? It makes installing stuff WAY easier
[04:56] <lophyte> Nameeater, I've got Sun Java installed but I had to use the binaries from their site
[04:57] <parker`> okay I changed nv to nvidia.. now if I restart X I'll be good?
[04:57] <Nameeater> yea I have the .bin's I was just wondering if there were proper packages now :/
[04:57] <Rug> Aviatrixie: I prefer Automatix over Easy too, but I prefer doing it all myself over both
[04:57] <psteeldart> Warbo I just installed the server and have not setup the networking yet, maybe I will do that first
[04:57] <lophyte> nope.. I'm running dapper and even it doesn't have sun packages
[04:57] <Aviatrixie> Warbo... personally I can't imagine doing free as in beer linux w/o broadband.
[04:58] <iamelite> Is there anyone familiar with WoW and installing wine. Could you PM me, i would like to varify some details. ive learn much in attempting this but i need help for this last part.
[04:58] <parker`> nv is now changed to nvidia, should I try a full reboot?
[04:58] <Rug> parker`: no, just reastart Xorg.   Ctrl + alt + Backspace will do it
[04:59] <Rug> restart*
[04:59] <Rug> Does anybody have twinview working with dapper?
[04:59] <Aviatrixie> Rug... I've done it both ways... just did a clean install upgrade to Dapper today. I do NOT want to do it manually, thank you.  ;)
[05:00] <Rug> Aviatrixie: whatever floats yer boat.
[05:00] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: I set up a Debian system the other day, then I wanted to add XCDRoast but I the eagle-usb driver for my modem was screwed. I was forced to install Debian in QEmu in my Ubuntu system, install the right packages to synchronise it with the real Debian system, clean out apt, install xcdroast, mount the Qemu drive, copy the packages in var/cache/apt/archives to a USB stick, put them into the real Debian's var/cache/apt/archives 
[05:00] <Aviatrixie> Warbo... sounds like a ton of work
[05:00] <lophyte> what's Automatix?
[05:01] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[05:01] <Warbo> !automatix
[05:01] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:01] <Warbo> !easyubuntu
[05:01] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:01] <lophyte> huh..
[05:01] <lophyte> thanks
[05:02] <parker`> Everyone that was just helping me: I love you all, it worked perfectly.
[05:02] <Rug> twinview? anybody? Beuller?
[05:02] <Rug> parker`: np
[05:02] <Aviatrixie> I know some folks end up with broken systems using Automatix. All I know is it never broke mine, worked flawlessly, and if it DID break my system, no biggie... I'd just reinstall.
[05:03] <parker`> brb reboot..
[05:03] <Aviatrixie> And no... I don't know Arnie and don't work on the Automatix team.
[05:03] <lophyte> EasyUbuntu sounds really useful
[05:03] <lophyte> I ended up doing most of that manually anyway
[05:03] <lophyte> but next time I install a system I'll have to check thato ut
[05:03] <Rug> bbiab
[05:04] <Aviatrixie> It's good to learn how to do it manually.
[05:04] <weakwire> hi how can i compile a driver from the kernel? 2.6.12.* like this? http://web.tagus.ist.utl.pt/~ricardo.cruz/sonyDebianHowTo/debian-vaio-fs215s.htm#Section_V  thank you
[05:04] <weakwire> can't anyone help me please?!?!?!!?
[05:04] <lophyte> yah, of course.. it' always good to do it manually first
[05:04] <riddlebox> is breezy still going to be supported for a little bit, or are there no more updates to it
[05:05] <Aviatrixie> breezy's good for 18 months.... nov 2005 + 18
[05:05] <Rug> Told ya I'd be back
[05:06] <Aviatrixie> Dapper is Long Term Support... 36 months
[05:06] <Rug> I love Screen + Irssi!!
[05:06] <lophyte> oo, that's something I haven't done yet
[05:06] <lophyte> videos in firefox
[05:06] <lophyte> or MS fonts either
[05:06] <riddlebox> good, because I had major problems getting mythtv working on dapper right now, I am going back for awhile
[05:06] <moruan> help~~~something about coreutils
[05:07] <eon> howdy -- last time i installed Ubuntu I found a site with an apt-get command that included all things multimedia in one line
[05:07] <Hit3k> !RestrictedFormats
[05:07] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:07] <moruan> how to upgrade coretils ???????? guys
[05:07] <Aviatrixie> bbiaw
[05:07] <noway-> hey guys, I have installed the nvidia driver, and changed my X11 config to use the driver.  The only problem is that it won't let me change desktop resolution!  Do I need drivers for my monitor too?
[05:07] <dr_willis> noway-,  not that i have ever seen
[05:07] <Timir> sklav, hey
[05:07] <dr_willis> just a correct modeline.
[05:07] <dr_willis> !fixres
[05:07] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:07] <st_crumpy> anyone can help me configuring my dell inspiron 1100 intel graphics?
[05:07] <lavi> hi all, I forgot a tool name which can minik gtk control, like listbox, dialogbox,etc. anybody know it ?
[05:08] <sklav> Hey Timir
[05:08] <dr_willis> lavi,  gdialog ?
[05:08] <phocus> hey guys, can anyone here help me mount a scsi array in ubuntu live cd to recover data
[05:08] <phocus> i been at this for 12 hours, i am wiped and could really use help
[05:08] <Timir> sklav, I forwarded all the ports, they're set to TCP/UDP
[05:08] <lavi> dr_willis, greate, thx :)
[05:09] <moruan> can anyone help me with the coreutils , when i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed
[05:09] <sklav> any luck?
[05:09] <lavi> dr_willis, is zenity .
[05:09] <dr_willis> lavi,  may be gmessage   :) ive seen dozens of similer programs
[05:09] <noway-> thanks dr_willis
[05:09] <sklav> moruan, try apt-get install coreutils
[05:09] <lavi> dr_willis, oh, great, nice for me also.
[05:09] <dr_willis> lavi,  now thats a good descriotive name eh   :)
[05:09] <Timir> sklav, It still is 100% incapable of reaching the internet with the hosted game, I can connect locally via it's local IP, 192.168.0.6
[05:10] <lavi> dr_willis, yeah :)
[05:10] <Timir> sklav, Do you know what a SPI firewall is? I saw an option to disable it in my router firmware, I was thinking if maybe I did that, and checked, then maybe it'd work and it may help figure out what's doing it
[05:10] <sklav> Timir, when dmx is enabled did you also enable ip masquerading?
[05:10] <jackal`inst> i downloaded xmms for ubuntu v. 1.2.1 and when i started the GDebi Package installer he tolds me, that there is a "later version in a software channel" - my question is now: where can i find this "software channel" ? :)
[05:10] <dr_willis> !info xmms
[05:10] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[05:11] <Timir> sklav, Dunno..I turned Default DMZ server onto 192.168.0.6(The server) and updated it
[05:11] <Timir> Err, applied it, rather, I guess
[05:11] <dr_willis> jackal`inst,  why not apt-get install xmms ?
[05:11] <WarOfAttrition> audacious is much better than xmms
[05:11] <majd> hi, i'm having trouble accessing my macs from ubuntu
[05:11] <jackal`inst> i guess that is a console command? dr_willis?
[05:11] <majd> the come up under "Places>Network"
[05:11] <majd> but when i open them...nothing comes up
[05:12] <dr_willis> jackal`inst,  yep - ya may want to learn to use synaptic and read up on the apt-get system. you are doing things the 'hard' way :)
[05:12] <snoops> do you know the ubuntu pc ip?
[05:12] <dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:12] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[05:12] <majd> snoops, talkin to me?
[05:12] <snoops> yep majd
[05:13] <majd> yeah, i know the ips of all the computers
[05:13] <Timir> sklav, any ideas? What's IP Masquerade?
[05:13] <Aviatrixie> #automatix is dead... can I ask a generic linux question about automatix here?
[05:13] <jackal`inst> dr_willis, thx alot .. will read myself through it :)
[05:13] <lophyte> IP masquerade is just NAT, isn't it?
[05:13] <snoops> so for instance share a folder on the ubuntu pc.. then try connecting to it with samba on the mac one?
[05:13] <majd> snoops, yeah, i can access my ubuntu files on my macs just fine
[05:13] <sklav> Timir ip masq it to forward internal traffic to the outside world
[05:13] <majd> perfectly
[05:14] <Timir> sklav, My router also supports UPnP but I don't know how to get that to work..
[05:14] <majd> but i can't access my mac files on my ubuntu
[05:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> wow, it seems im always getting on here
[05:14] <Timir> sklav, I don't know if I have that, so I probably didn't turn it on...Do you know where it would be?
[05:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> but it seems that ubuntu is TOO simple for me
[05:14] <snoops> oh, whoops.. other way around I see..
[05:14] <Pharaoh_Atem> the services manager is pitiful
[05:14] <sklav> Timir, the site i pasted before has a walkthrew
[05:14] <snoops> majd if you smb://macsip/sharedfolder do you get anything?
[05:15] <sklav> for all the types of configs
[05:15] <roostishaw> what comman do i use to modify a directory to give write only permissions to the output of the whoami command? (for a script)
[05:15] <sklav> did you follow it
[05:15] <Timir> sklav, The one you posted a bit back, to the PortForwarding site with the router list?
[05:15] <sklav> yes
[05:15] <majd> snoops, by going to Places>Connect to Server then choosing windows share
[05:15] <majd> right?
[05:15] <Timir> sklav, Yes, I followed that..
[05:15] <sklav> look under dmz
[05:15] <sklav> if there is anything specific
[05:16] <SEJeff> roostishaw: the whoami command doesn't take input? It only outputs your username. What exactly do you need to do?
[05:16] <snoops> majd that's one way, yeah
[05:16] <majd> snoops, it adds it to the desktop..but no files when i open it
[05:16] <snoops> could be a permissions prob?
[05:16] <majd> pretty sure i have everything setup right on my mac cause i can access the mac files between my mac computers
[05:16] <Timir> sklav, ok...The only DMZ thing on the router firmware is "Default DMZ server" with a checkmark, and a local IP to use it on
[05:17] <majd> snoops, is there a way to authenticate myself when making the connection?
[05:17] <ruxpin> what's the mechanism that displays the usb stick contents on the desktop after plugging it in?
[05:17] <eon> anyone have a good sources.list file?  tried downloading one from a site and half the sources failed to download
[05:17] <erikh> is there some reason that rhythmbox and amarok and pretty much anything other than xmms won't work on my ubuntu setup?
[05:17] <eon> trying to get a list that includes mp3, decss etc
[05:17] <roostishaw> SEJeff, im trying to change the permissions of a folder, so that only the current user (thats where whoami comes in) can write to it...
[05:17] <roostishaw> all in a script
[05:17] <WarOfAttrition> erikh: try audacious
[05:17] <ruxpin> erikh: probably you're missing libmad and stuff
[05:17] <sklav> Timir, why use dmz just try port forwarding
[05:17] <pvd> how can I tell what version of nvidia driver I am using?
[05:17] <erikh> ruxpin: ah, I'll check it out
[05:17] <Timir> sklav, Port Forwarding does nothing =/
[05:17] <sklav> disable dmz
[05:17] <sklav> and try again
[05:17] <Timir> ok
[05:18] <sklav> it should work
[05:18] <snoops> majd you know the name of one of the folders you've shared on the mac right? Let's try actually mounting it for fun
[05:18] <sklav> dmz is more secure
[05:18] <Timir> If I disable DMZ it's probably going to disconnect me, so brb
[05:18] <lophyte> erikh, xmms has its own built-in decoder.. amarok and rhythmbox use other libraries
[05:18] <sklav> but get up and running till you figure it out
[05:18] <ruxpin> erikh, http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Ubuntu_5.10
[05:18] <TrendKi||> hello!
[05:18] <soaper> hello!
[05:19] <TrendKi||> i am in a very good mood
[05:19] <eon> !mp3
[05:19] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:19] <phocus> hey guys, can anyone here help me mount a scsi array in ubuntu live cd to recover data
[05:19] <volt^warlock> ?mysql
[05:19] <volt^warlock> what was the url for mysql again guys? ;)
[05:19] <volt^warlock> installing it
[05:19] <soaper> dunno. I just do it the lazy way (xampp, because I just do dev) :p
[05:20] <roostishaw> !mysql
[05:20] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:20] <volt^warlock> lol :p
[05:20] <xenex> is there a way to open .daa files on linux?
[05:20] <volt^warlock> thanks!
[05:20] <roostishaw> np...
[05:20] <SEJeff> roostishaw: whoami isn't the right way to do it
[05:20] <snoops> majd so umm in terminal "sudo apt-get install smbfs" (unless you've already got it installed).. then you'll want to do "sudo mkdir /media/MacShared" then "sudo mount -t smbfs //ipofmac/themacssharedfolder /media/MacShared -o username=puttheusernamehere,password=putthepasswordhere"
[05:20] <Timir> sklav, No effect at all
[05:20] <roostishaw> SEJeff, what is?
[05:20] <erikh> ruxpin: awesome. thanks!
[05:20] <sklav> Timir, i dont know what to tell you
[05:21] <xenex> !aa
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about aa
[05:21] <xenex> !daa
[05:21] <snoops> then if all works, you should be able to access the share at /media/MacShared majd
[05:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about daa
[05:21] <Timir> sklav, should I try disabling the Spi firewall?
[05:21] <sklav> i have setup countless of routers and they usually work
[05:21] <soaper> Timir: We'd have to be right there with you inspecting your setup to really be able to help.
[05:21] <SEJeff> roostishaw: Well, it is *a* way, but not the easiest way. pastebin is being really slow so just a second...
[05:21] <Timir> soaper, I can send screenshots
[05:21] <Timir> put them up on image shack
[05:21] <roostishaw> SEJeff, ok, np... ill be here long enough
[05:22] <soaper> go ahead, I'll give it my best shot in figuring it out
[05:22] <sklav> guys im off
[05:22] <sklav> need sleep
[05:22] <soaper> later sklav
[05:22] <soaper> come back soon!
[05:22] <sklav> later guys
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> Please explain how you use a simple text editor to do this (forgive me... cut and paste is rather awkward in irc  ;) this is how you need to do it on Ubuntu/Xubuntu Dapper and all versions of Breezy :
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> For Ubuntu and Xubuntu Dapper do the following. (Do not use this version on Kubuntu as you now have your own version):
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> With your favorite text editor (mine is gedit) make the following changes to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> Code:
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:22] <sklav> sorry i could not be more helpful this evening
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> and add the following line to the end of the file which opens up:
[05:22] <Aviatrixie> Quote:
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt dapper main
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> Now save and close the file
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> and do the following from terminal to import and install the GPG keys and install automatix:
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> 1) Key import:
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> Code:
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> wget http://www.beerorkid.com/automatix/apt/key.gpg.asc gpg --import key.gpg.asc gpg --export --armor 521A9C7C | sudo apt-key add -
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> 2) Installation
[05:23] <soaper> um.... Aviatrixie?
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> Code:
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install automatix
[05:23] <Aviatrixie> Now you can remove and install Automatix from synaptic in Dapper and get automatic updates too. Enjoy :)
[05:23] <soaper> You're kind of flooding the channel.
[05:23] <soaper> :D
[05:23] <volt^warlock> root@playz:/usr# sudo ./bin/mysql_install_db --user=mysql
[05:23] <volt^warlock> sudo: ./bin/mysql_install_db: command not found
[05:23] <volt^warlock> Anyone ?
[05:23] <skavenge> duh
[05:23] <SEJeff> roostishaw: meh... pastebin.com is being too slow so I used the ubuntu one. This is totally from memory, but should work perfectly: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16730
[05:24] <soaper> vot~warlock:$ cd ./bin; ls | grep mysql
[05:24] <SEJeff> roostishaw: take a look at that and tell me if you have any questions about it.
[05:24] <roostishaw> SEJeff, ok... im looking...
[05:24] <Aviatrixie> I'm trying to understand what they want me to do with the text editor
[05:24] <soaper> do you see the install app?
[05:24] <volt^warlock> yeah soaper ?
[05:24] <soaper> Oh, I know what your problem is!
[05:24] <soaper> okay, do this!
[05:25] <volt^warlock> thanks
[05:25] <soaper> sudo /bin/./mysql_install_db
[05:25] <volt^warlock> no command found
[05:25] <volt^warlock> hmpfh
[05:25] <volt^warlock> root@playz:~# sudo /bin/./mysql_install_db
[05:25] <volt^warlock> sudo: /bin/./mysql_install_db: command not found
[05:25] <volt^warlock> weird
[05:25] <roostishaw> SEJeff, what do i replace?
[05:25] <nu2ubuntu> hello, how does one go about installing a bin file? im pretty new to linux in general and i cant get it to work
[05:25] <soaper> or ./bin/./mysql_install_db if it's a relative path
[05:25] <SEJeff> roostishaw: That should take the file, chown it over to the current user and his group along with remove permissions for anyone else.
[05:25] <volt^warlock> I get command not found soaper
[05:25] <Samus_Aran> how does Ubuntu determine the library path ?  there is no /etc/ld.so.conf
[05:25] <SEJeff> roostishaw: myfile.txt with the one you want. Do you understand how that script works?
[05:26] <soaper> really? ooh...
[05:26] <Timir> soaper http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7900/picture39kn.th.png
[05:26] <Samus_Aran> I am needing to add some custom library paths, and am wanting to do it at least semi-properly
[05:26] <soaper> did you check that the file's there, volt?
[05:26] <Timir> GAH
[05:26] <roostishaw> SEJeff, yes, i think so... could i replace myfile.txt with a directory?
[05:26] <mikere> nu2ubuntu: from a command line you could try: ./mybinfine.bin
[05:26] <Timir> That's the thumbnail
[05:26] <Timir> one second..
[05:26] <volt^warlock> soaper, can you join #mysql.blabal - so we can talk there?
[05:26] <SEJeff> roostishaw: Sure can
[05:26] <mikere> nu2ubuntu: although you may have to do: chmod +x mybinfile.bin
[05:26] <soaper> uh, sure.
[05:27] <mikere> nu2ubuntu: the second command flags your .bin file as executable if it isn't already
[05:27] <SEJeff> roostishaw: and if you want that to be recursive (can *possibly* break things), put -R after chmod and chown
[05:27] <roostishaw> SEJeff, hmm... actually, if you dont mind, could you explain how it works?
[05:27] <Timir> soaper, http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7900/picture39kn.png
[05:27] <soaper> kay, thanks timir
[05:27] <nu2ubuntu> ok cool, thanks
[05:27] <soaper> get to you in a sec
[05:27] <Timir> soaper, Those are the suggested forwarded ports, and then some
[05:27] <SEJeff> roostishaw: Sure. $USER is an environmental variable. typing 'env | grep -i user' will show you that
[05:27] <nu2ubuntu> ill try that mikere :)
[05:27] <roostishaw> SEJeff, ok...
[05:28] <salah> is there any ways to set up a alarm with linux? I want my machine to beep in 5-6 hours..
[05:28] <mikere> Timir: are those UDP or TCP ports?
[05:28] <Timir> soaper, They're set as TCP/UDP
[05:28] <SEJeff> roostishaw: 'name=$(whoami)' is how you embed the OUTPUT of commands into variables
[05:28] <Timir> mikere, Remember how there's the lil dropdown critter thing that says "UDP" and "TCP"? Mine has those two, and a third "TCP/UDP"
[05:28] <Timir> Should they be on UDP only instead..?
[05:28] <mikere> Timir: also you need to have 5120-5300 not 5129
[05:28] <mikere> Timir: both is fine
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > Timir, that just means it works for both
[05:29] <roostishaw> SEJeff, there is no 'name=$(whoami)
[05:29] <SEJeff> roostishaw: or in my case, 'GROUP=$(groups $USER)'. Its the same, an embedded command.
[05:29] <roostishaw> SEJeff, oh, got it...
[05:29] <mikere> Timir: you need 5120-5300, 6500, 27900 and 28900
[05:30] <Dapallo> hey, has anyone installed iTunes on ubuntu using Wine?
[05:30] <SEJeff> roostishaw: the braces {} allow you to put a variable with text on the end of it without a space ie: ${USER}:${GROUP}. If you tried $USER:$GROUP it wouldn't work because of the :
[05:30] <Timir> mikere, Okay, I re-put those in
[05:31] <Timir> No difference
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> salah: Kalarm
[05:31] <salah> Jack_Sparrow, thanks
[05:31] <mikere> Timir: one person in the forum recommends powering down cable modem, router and computers after making all the changes and restarting - not sure why but I know my routers been flaky lately and doing that is the only way to fix
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:31] <Timir> mikere, Okay, I'll try that with the router, is it necessary with the linux box?
[05:31] <Jack_Sparrow> It can play a sound file as an alarm
[05:31] <SEJeff> roostishaw: I messed up one thing in that script. You want it to set the file ownership to the current user and that users primary group.
[05:31] <mikere> Timir: I've made changes in config before without having to do that but - it's worth a shot later =)
[05:32] <roostishaw> SEJeff, 2?
[05:32] <SEJeff> roostishaw: Change the GROUP= line to this: GROUP=$(groups $USER | awk '{print $1}')
[05:32] <mikere> Timir: I don't know - it's some voodoo recommendation from someone in a forum
[05:32] <Timir> mikere, Can DMZ interfere with port forwarding?
[05:32] <roostishaw> SEJeff, what does that do?
[05:32] <salah> linux should really be MUCH better on the cd burning front
[05:32] <mikere> Timir: possibly - tho only if a separate comp was the DMZ
[05:33] <mikere> Timir tho I don't *think* it would
[05:33] <Timir> mikere, Okay, I turned it off earlier, sklav suggested it
[05:33] <SEJeff> roostishaw: That takes the output of the groups command and only prints the very first one (delimited by spaces). Scratch that, I'll try this script out
[05:33] <roostishaw> SEJeff, ok
[05:33] <SEJeff> roostishaw: ok, change $1 in the awk command to $3 and it will be totally correct
[05:34] <roostishaw> k
[05:34] <Timir> so BRB, Mikere, if you could watch chat to see if anyone posts anything to me while I'm gone
[05:34] <bit_doidao> Hello all! Does Anyone knows a way of "ASPELling" firefox?
[05:34] <Timir> ?*
[05:34] <roostishaw> SEJeff, if thats it... thats a lot mate, i really appreciate it!
[05:34] <SEJeff> roostishaw: Try those commands in the terminal. Try groups $USER | awk '{print $3}' and that will show your primary group
[05:34] <mikere> Timir: will try
[05:34] <SEJeff> roostishaw: I know that will work. You're welcome
[05:35] <Samus_Aran> salah: sleep 5h && xmms --play
[05:35] <Samus_Aran> salah: something like that ?
[05:35] <SEJeff> salah: do you use Ubuntu and gnome?
[05:35] <salah> SEJeff, yes
[05:36] <salah> Samus_Aran, what does `sleep` do?
[05:36] <SEJeff> salah: I put in a blank cd and it asks me if I want to, "Ignore, Burn an Audio Cd, or Burn a Data CD". What is difficult about that?
[05:36] <Samus_Aran> salah: it waits
[05:36] <salah> SEJeff, try to copy a vcd...
[05:36] <SEJeff> salah: any idiot can burn a cd by dragging and dropping files in nautilus
[05:36] <noway-> I am trying to update the PLF repository, but I am getting an error saying it doesn't exist
[05:36] <noway-> I double checked the repository URL, and it is fine
[05:37] <SEJeff> salah: the cd should show on your desktop. Right click on it and select copy and it works. I'm not sure if Ubuntu is set to show cds on the desktop by default.
[05:37] <SEJeff> salah: if you want, I can help you to see
[05:37] <salah> SEJeff, dude, one day you will need to copy a vcd, and you will understand what I am talking about
[05:37] <Samus_Aran> salah: afaik, regular VCDs use standard ISO9660 filesystem structure, but SVCDs use no filesystem, just an MPEG file dumped onto the disc.  I could be wrong, but I think that's what the .bin/.cue files for movies are that you sometimes see (the .bin/.cue pair being a raw rip of the CD)
[05:38] <salah> I also can burn some audio or data cds, but im talking aboute some more advanced
[05:38] <lophyte> SVCDs use a filesystem too
[05:38] <SEJeff> salah: dude, are you listening to me? If the cd is shown on the desktop, you right click and select copy. I don't think the Ubuntu default is to show it on the desktop, but I'll show you how.
[05:38] <lophyte> just different encoding
[05:38] <mikere> Timir: hmm.. might not need all those ports up to 5300 - but best ot leave em open for now
[05:38] <salah> SEJeff, alright, let's try
[05:38] <SEJeff> salah: A VCD or a SVCD are just data cds with special file/directory structures
[05:39] <volt^warlock> how do i kill everything in ps aux which has "apache" init ?
[05:39] <lophyte> killall apache
[05:39] <nano> hola
[05:39] <volt^warlock> root@playz:~# killall apache
[05:39] <volt^warlock> apache: no process killed
[05:39] <volt^warlock> "OK"
[05:39] <lophyte> apache isn't usually called apache
[05:40] <lophyte> its usually httpd, I believe
[05:40] <nano> kisiera saber como bajar shockwave???
[05:40] <lophyte> though, the best way to shut down an apache server is /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[05:40] <jrsims> hey, how can I make gdm start with a lower resolution?
[05:40] <SEJeff> salah: let me find the gconf key and then I'll show you how easy it is, ok?
[05:40] <nano> fack yours
[05:40] <lophyte> or use system->administration->services
[05:40] <kazukisan> Has anyone tried out the new ati drivers ?
[05:41] <salah> SEJeff, first of all: yes, I can select "Copy disk.".. but first error:No media available.  There doesn't seem to be any media in the selected drive."
[05:41] <salah> SEJeff, ok
[05:41] <SEJeff> salah: oh, well that means you need to put the cd in the drive that is selected in the dropdown
[05:42] <SEJeff> salah: I have my dad use this function to copy audio and mp3 cds. It works the same for an SVCD as thats just another data cd
[05:42] <noway-> I am trying to install flash using the guide on ubuntuguide.org, and having problems adding the PLF repository
[05:42] <jrsims> How do I make gdm start with a lower resolution?
[05:42] <salah> SEJeff, and btw, my DVD drive closes all the time, why? (it's not any failure with the drive, it's linux locking it)
[05:43] <snoops> jrsims edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:43] <SEJeff> salah: I know how to fix that. Just a second.
[05:43] <salah> sure
[05:43] <matheus> hello
[05:43] <lophyte> volt^warlock, did that work for you?
[05:43] <mikere> Timir: back yet?
[05:43] <volt^warlock> 1sec
[05:44] <volt^warlock> Ah, i use ubuntu server marte
[05:44] <volt^warlock> mate *
[05:44] <lophyte> ahh
[05:44] <lophyte> /etc/init.d/httpd stop
[05:44] <jackal`inst> is there a good alternative for "gaim internet messenger" ?
[05:44] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[05:44] <salah> jackal`inst, kopete
[05:45] <lophyte> err *sigh*
[05:45] <jackal`inst> ok will try
[05:45] <Psefths> hi i am a noob. bash: make: command not found :)  how can i get make to work ?
[05:45] <SEJeff> jackal`inst: what are you trying to talk to? For msn, there is amsn that is really good
[05:45] <lophyte> volt^warlock, sorry.. I'm getting it mixed up with other distros.. its /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[05:45] <jackal`inst> icq @lophyte
[05:45] <salah> Psefths, sudo apt-get install make
[05:45] <Timir> mikere, nothing..
[05:45] <SEJeff> Psefths:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:45] <jackal`inst> damn, wrong person :D
[05:45] <jackal`inst> SEJeff, for icq
[05:46] <Psefths> hmmmmm 1 or 2?
[05:46] <lophyte> jackal`inst, what's wrong with gaim?
[05:46] <soaper> good evening, n0ctuRnal-fieNd!
[05:46] <volt^warlock> soaper, I got more errors now, mind joining #mysql.blabal again? :P
[05:46] <soaper> kay
[05:46] <SEJeff> salah: it is actually the kernel that locks it. I'm assuming you have root on this box you want  it not to lock on
[05:46] <mikere> Timir: I'm all outta ideas man.  Almost the last post in the nwn forums thread I linked for you said that he thought netgear routers wouldn't work at all with server - but I don't know if he's right or not
[05:46] <matheus> kopete is a alternative for gaim
[05:46] <lophyte> yeah, I use kopete
[05:47] <jrsims> How do I make gdm start with a lower resolution?
[05:47] <GigaClon> how can i find out the address of my sound device
[05:47] <Cntryboy> can anyone please help??????
[05:47] <lophyte> GigaClon, try lspci at the command line
[05:47] <GigaClon> ie /dev/path/to/device
[05:47] <Cntryboy> Ive been at this all freaking day
[05:47] <mikere> Timir: next time I get a new router it's linksys - already tried dlink (ok) and trendnet (eww)
[05:47] <jackal`inst> several functions :-/ cannot switch between off/on users fast
[05:47] <lophyte> GigaClon, sound devices are usually /dev/dsp
[05:47] <SEJeff> GigaClon: lspci | grep -i audio
[05:47] <salah> SEJeff, yes, I almost have to trash the dvd rom every time I want to get something out
[05:47] <Psefths> hmmmmmmm it worked.........that? >> You must install ncurses-devel
[05:47] <mikere> Cntryboy: ask the question - if anyone knows and can help they'll answer
[05:48] <Psefths> sudo apt-get ncurses-devel?
[05:48] <Timir> mikere, I see no reason for it not to work, I'm thinking about nuking the firewall though
[05:48] <SEJeff> lophyte: no, /dev/dsp is the deprecated oss sound system which isn't even on many newer distros as alsa is way better.
[05:48] <Timir> to see if it'll be up without it
[05:48] <salah> but dude, clock is 6 AM and I still haven't got any sleep, do you have any ideas how to fix this vcd problem?
[05:48] <Cntryboy> mikere: Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[05:48] <mikere> Timir: hehe, you could, but that opens your whole network up to possible attack
[05:48] <fdelacruz> morning
[05:48] <SEJeff> salah: sudo gedit /etc/sysctl.conf
[05:48] <lophyte> SEJeff, thx
[05:48] <GigaClon> that didn't give me an address
[05:48] <SEJeff> salah: at the very end, put this: dev.cdrom.lock=0
[05:49] <matheus> Cntryboy, do you get the driver by apt-get or nvidia site ?
[05:49] <Timir> mikere, I'm on a Mac that's firewalled, and that's linux, I'm pretty sure script kiddies anymore pretty much only know how to hack Windows XP
[05:49] <salah> if my mom JUST DEARS talk about doing something for her one more time, I will call ambulance before doing anything else
[05:49] <Cntryboy> matheus: apt-get
[05:49] <salah> SEJeff, ok, i'll try
[05:49] <mikere> Cntryboy: I don't know - how did you install them?  Were they from apt or Synaptic or from nvidia binary?
[05:49] <jonathon> Hi,
[05:49] <SEJeff> Cntryboy: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Then you need to go through the prompts and select nvidia for your video driver.
[05:49] <matheus> Cntryboy, try to download from nvidia site... is easy to install
[05:49] <jonathon> I just installed 6.06, but all my repos are 5.10 in aptget...
[05:49] <Cntryboy> I've tried apt and synaptic...
[05:49] <jonathon> what's going on?
[05:49] <Timir> mikere, Know of any apps that could say, transmit it out to the internet?
[05:50] <mikere> Cntryboy: frankly installing glx shouldn't affect X at all until you run an OpenGL app I thought
[05:50] <Timir> in the unlikely event it's not the router
[05:50] <Cntryboy> matheus: I don't think thats the problem.
[05:50] <SEJeff> salah: Do that and save the file. Then you need to run this command: sudo sysctl -p
[05:50] <lophyte> jonathon, you have to manually change the repos
[05:50] <jonathon> lophyte, this is a common problem?
[05:50] <SEJeff> salah: After that, your drives should never be locked again
[05:50] <mikere> Timir: nope, not without setting up a VPN which won't work in your case
[05:50] <lophyte> make sure they say dapper rather than breezy
[05:50] <jonathon> lophyte, it shipped like this?
[05:50] <matheus> Cntryboy, pastbin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <Timir> mikere, VPN?
[05:50] <Cntryboy> mikere: no you can either lose X and get a command prompt which I have gotten with old geforce 2 and legacy driver.. but i'm getting no visual and monitor is going to sleep..
[05:50] <salah> SEJeff, thanks, but how do I open it?
[05:51] <lophyte> jonathon, I installed 5.10 and then upgraded to 6.06 which involved manually changing the depos
[05:51] <Cntryboy> matheus: okay, but the only thing that u will see wrong is nv instead of nvidia,
[05:51] <mikere> Cntryboy: did you try SEJeff's suggestion?
[05:51] <matheus> Cntryboy, for glx driver must be nvidia, not nv
[05:51] <mikere> Timir: nm - it won't work
[05:51] <Cntryboy> mikere: yes ive done that 1 billion times
[05:51] <lophyte> jonathon, take a look at them and see what they say.. if they say breezy, you'd have to switch them to dapper if that's what you're running
[05:51] <SEJeff> salah: Did you do what I said? After you run sudo sysctl -p, it should update the file in /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/lock to 0. After that, just use the open button on the drive because it won't lock anymore.
[05:52] <Cntryboy> matheus: yes I know this, but if I choose nvidia I get the sleepy monitor crap.. so I choosed nv so I could get back here..
[05:52] <jonathon> lophyte, I changed them by hand... I'm just surprised it installed like this.
[05:52] <mikere> Cntryboy: did you check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and ensure it has "nvidia" driver?
[05:52] <matheus> Cntryboy, yes
[05:52] <Cntryboy> mikere: Yes it does, only thing that xorg doesn't have is nvidia written, because theres no point I lose visual..
[05:52] <lophyte> jonathon, I'm not sure if that's a common problem or not.. like I said, I did a dist-upgrade from breezy :)
[05:52] <Timir> mikere, Do you have NWN by any chance?
[05:52] <jonathon> lophyte, thanks :D
[05:52] <lophyte> np
[05:52] <mikere> Timir: yes, but only on my windows boot right now
[05:53] <fdelacruz> is there cmd that can i use to find the ip address of the remote machine the only things that I have is their mac address
[05:53] <jonathon> lophyte, it's changed and now I have a few hundred megs worth of updates... nice... lol
[05:53] <matheus> you need to disable dri, GLcore modules on xorg.conf and add glx
[05:53] <Timir> mikere, I think all it really requires is dragging the windows install over and installing the patch
[05:53] <Cntryboy> matheus: talking to me?
[05:53] <matheus> Cntryboy,  yes
[05:53] <lophyte> jonathon, yup.. updates are nice :)
[05:53] <SEJeff> fdelacruz: sudo apt-get install arping
[05:54] <mikere> matheus: odd - I have both of those enabled in my xorg.conf and all works fine
[05:54] <matheus> Cntryboy, try it
[05:54] <Cntryboy> matheus: not sure how that would do anything.. I had geforce 2 with legacy drivers working fine on ubuntu, I got this new card and linux is being crap
[05:54] <Paladine> hey anyone know how I can fix this - http://www.paladine.org.uk/images/vmware-console.jpg
[05:54] <stbrenner> anyone know of a good app for converting avi (like xVid) into DVD format?
[05:55] <fdelacruz> SEJeff tnx I'l try that
[05:55] <matheus> Cntryboy, maybe the driver is not compatible with your new card
[05:55] <mikere> stbrenner: no - but if you find out, tell me!
[05:55] <Dapallo> hey, I need help installing iTunes with wine
[05:55] <matheus> Cntryboy, try to donwload the driver from nvidia site
[05:55] <Cntryboy> matheus: yes it is, from what the ubuntu howto says
[05:56] <Cntryboy> my dri section says this
[05:56] <Cntryboy> Section "DRI"
[05:56] <Cntryboy> 	Mode	0666
[05:56] <Cntryboy> oops wrong section
[05:56] <Cntryboy> let me paste bin this for u
[05:56] <snoops> there are some fantastic alternates (superior alternatives too imo) to iTunes in linux Dapallo.. any reason why you're trying to get iTunes?
[05:56] <Cntryboy> be easier
[05:56] <varsendaggr> wow xgl is killer
[05:57] <Paladine> hey anyone know how I can fix this - http://www.paladine.org.uk/images/vmware-console.jpg
[05:57] <mikere> Cntrybory: geforce 2 used the nvidia-glx-legacy whereas the new one should use nvidia-glx - you may have to remove legacy?
[05:57] <Dapallo> no not really, mainly because it can read RSS feeds, and Im familiar with it
[05:57] <Cntryboy> matheus: http://pastebin.ca/74527
[05:57] <stbrenner> mikere,  any one windoze i can use in WINE?
[05:57] <tiagotiago> hello
[05:58] <mikere> stbrenner: I don't understand the question?
[05:58] <matheus> stbrenner, try to install wine-tools
[05:58] <Cntryboy> mikere: I did remove it, matter of fact the geforce fx 5500 some what works with legacy drivers, but it doesn't work at all with the driver I need, well I lose visual that is
[05:58] <snoops> oh, I'm pretty sure Banshee can read rss, as well as my favourite music player, amarok Dapallo
[05:58] <tiagotiago> I am strugling to set up dual boot on my machine
[05:58] <Timir> BRB, emergency reboot to test
[05:58] <Cntryboy> matheus: did you peek at that link?
[05:58] <jackal`inst> how can i deactivate these blinkin while a tab is inactive? using xubuntu 6.06
[05:59] <matheus> Cntryboy, in my system, dri module is disabled... and works all fine
[05:59] <tiagotiago> I tryed grub and smart bootmanager, but neither of them worked
[05:59] <Cntryboy> matheus: if you enable it what happens, on ur system
[05:59] <stbrenner> matheus, it may be obvious but how will this help me? :)
[05:59] <Dapallo> okay, thanks snoops
[05:59] <GigaClon> SEJeff, lspci did not give me a /dev type address
[05:59] <salah> SEJeff, dude, I just did what you said, the drive stil locks
[05:59] <volt^warlock> !pastebin
[05:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:00] <Paladine> anyone?
[06:00] <SEJeff> GigaClon: Thats because newer soundcards are handled by alsa in the kernel. They don't create /dev/ anything.
[06:00] <tiagotiago> the system refuses to even acknolodge the instaler of smart bootmanager as a valid comand
[06:00] <SEJeff> salah: That should work. It works for me and all of the systems I've ever used it on. Maybe a hardware problem
[06:00] <volt^warlock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16731 - anyone know why im getting these errors while trying to uninstall php4/mysql/phpmyadmin ?
[06:00] <will_> Hey
[06:00] <tiagotiago> and grub kept complaing about missing files :(
[06:00] <will_> I am a music prodecer, very use to using programs like SONY ACID and CUBASE
[06:00] <matheus> Cntryboy, when I did installed glx in my system, in many foruns that I read.... suggest to remove load dri line
[06:01] <AB3I> evening all
[06:01] <will_> Can someone please reccomend me some UJBUNTU Alternatives to these programs^
[06:01] <Cntryboy> matheus: okay remove that line and what else did you say?
[06:01] <AB3I> Google has come up dry here
[06:01] <salah> SEJeff, works fine when using the drive on other computers
[06:01] <volt^warlock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16731 - anyone know why im getting these errors while trying to uninstall php4/mysql/phpmyadmin ?
[06:01] <salah> SEJeff, anyways, how do I force the drive to open?
[06:01] <AB3I> I cant get aRTs to give up control of the damn sound card so amarok can use the xine engine for playing MP3s
[06:01] <GigaClon> im trying to convince a program that I don't have OSS and to use Alsa
[06:01] <tiagotiago> can anyone help me with this?
[06:02] <AB3I> is there some way to get rid of aRTs all together? or atleast gstreamer? even killing the processes isn't helping, because the bastards come straight back
[06:02] <volt^warlock> oh cmon? anyone?
[06:02] <matheus> Cntryboy, change driver to nvidia, not nv
[06:02] <Cntryboy> matheus: i know that part, what else
[06:02] <Dapallo> hey snoops, could you get me the link to the deb i need too download.  Im running ubuntu, on a intel machine
[06:02] <stbrenner> anyone know what codec i need to play xvid files with totem?
[06:02] <Cntryboy> matheus: i haven't done that yet because I don't wanna lose visual on X, let me do whats new first then b4 i save it ill add nvidia and restart x
[06:02] <matheus> Cntryboy, I can't help you
[06:02] <jackal`inst> can someone tell me how to deactivate these blinking tabs while they are inactive? i am using xubuntu 6.06
[06:02] <volt^warlock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16731 - anyone know why im getting these errors while trying to uninstall php4/mysql/phpmyadmin ?
[06:03] <Cntryboy> matheus: you said remove dri line and some other stuff, what else did you say?
[06:03] <matheus> let me see
[06:03] <Psefths> hi i want to include Intel HD Audio do it like that <*> Intel HD Audio but when i press Y in the kernel menuconfig is says it will be a module cause it depends by another module and it's like this <M>Itel HD Audio
[06:03] <snoops> Dapallo are you familiar with the joy that is apt-get?
[06:03] <Cntryboy> matheus: and why can't u help me?
[06:03] <Psefths> what can i do ?
[06:03] <snoops> Dapallo or perhaps synaptic?
[06:03] <salah> SEJeff, ok dude, don't care about the drive lock, I need to copy the vcd, believe me, I have been trying since 9 PM
[06:03] <neotard> anyone using compiz with dual-head xinerama?
[06:03] <Dapallo> I didnt think to look on synaptic
[06:03] <snoops> !restricted > stbrenner
[06:03] <Dapallo> one sec
[06:04] <Psefths> what's the problem ?
[06:04] <snoops> Dapallo you'll need to add the universal and probably mulitverse repositories (you can do this in synaptic)
[06:04] <volt^warlock> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16731 - anyone know why im getting these errors while trying to uninstall php4/mysql/phpmyadmin ?
[06:04] <matheus> Cntryboy, I dont know
[06:04] <Cntryboy> matheus: did you want me to remove the GLcore Modules also?
[06:04] <ChrisC_> quick easy question ...
[06:04] <Cntryboy> matheus: do you even know what you are talking about? I mean you tell me stuff to do and then forget what u told me to do then say you can't help. which is it man?
[06:04] <matheus> Cntryboy, in your past bin GLCore is not present
[06:04] <jackal`inst> gn8
[06:05] <ChrisC_> what is the default system font for "Applications" in dapper/6.06?
[06:05] <Toma-> !mobile
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about mobile
[06:05] <salah> have a good night, jackal`zzZZ
[06:05] <Cntryboy> matheus: what card do you use?
[06:05] <snoops> ChrisC_ system>preferences>fonts
[06:05] <AB3I> !arts
[06:05] <alexicon> im curious, is the latest version of firefox for ubuntu really 1.0.8, or is that just because im still on an old version of ubuntu...
[06:05] <matheus> Cntryboy, Geforce 2
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about arts
[06:05] <AB3I> yay
[06:05] <Cntryboy> gts pro? or mx
[06:05] <AB3I> screwed again
[06:05] <ChrisC_> snoops: I know, I want to know what the default was before I changed it
[06:05] <kbrosnan> alexicon, the latter
[06:05] <alexicon> cheers
[06:06] <snoops> alexicon still on an old version.. 1.5.xx here
[06:06] <Toma-> AB3I: whats wrong with arts?
[06:06] <alexicon> :)
[06:06] <Cntryboy> matheus: if you are using legacy drivers with a card I used to use, why are you having me do stuff to mine if I use differ drivers and a newer card?
[06:06] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> soaper: hey , thats a first one , good evening
[06:06] <kbrosnan> alexicon, you can get upgrade directions for just firefox if you ask ubotu about firefox
[06:07] <AB3I> Toma, it wont give up control of the damn sound card
[06:07] <kalosaurusrex> !firefox >alexicon
[06:07] <alexicon> ta ^_^
[06:07] <AB3I> my xine players are the only ones I can get mp3s to work with, gxine, etc
[06:07] <kbrosnan> or that works too
[06:07] <HLM> ubotu:what antivrus should i use?
[06:07] <kalosaurusrex> hlm:  don't really need any...but if you want use clamav..
[06:07] <Toma-> AB3I: "killall artsd" then go into control centre > Sound system > Change it to use alsa
[06:07] <AB3I> but the xineengine cant load, and I cant kill arts either
[06:07] <tritium> HLM: why would you?
[06:07] <AB3I> its continually restarting
[06:07] <tiagotiago> oh well
[06:07] <snoops> you've installed all the gstreamer codecs to play restricted formats AB3I?
[06:07] <tritium> HLM: are you running a mail server for Windows clients or something?
[06:07] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> whats a good partition setup ?  i mean , how many partitions should be used for desktop?
[06:07] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[06:07] <ChrisC_> If your breezy/6.06 system is still set at the default system font settings, can you take a look at system -> pref -> fonts and tell me what your application font is?
[06:08] <alexicon> !amarok >alexicon
[06:08] <AB3I> hmm
[06:08] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, three: root swap home
[06:08] <matheus> Cntryboy, well.... I think the driver on site is better
[06:08] <HLM> just wanted to see if needed
[06:08] <AB3I> yes snoops
[06:08] <kalosaurusrex> Sans
[06:08] <AB3I> the only ones that worked were the xine codecs
[06:08] <kalosaurusrex> 10
[06:08] <ChrisC_> kalosaurusrex: I guess that's for me? :)
[06:08] <kalosaurusrex> Chris_C: yes sir!
[06:09] <tony_tests> Tonyyarusso: Funny...I thought secure on would prevent that...
[06:09] <AB3I> Toma, theres no place in the sound system section to change it to also
[06:09] <Toma-> AB3I: go into control centre and turn off the sound system
[06:09] <matheus> Cntryboy, maybe works in your system... maybe not... that I don't know...
[06:09] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: how much space should be given for the root partiiton?
[06:09] <AB3I> ok
[06:09] <gdb> ChrisC_: Sans 10, yes.
[06:09] <Toma-> AB3I: yes there is, look harder :)
[06:09] <ChrisC_> kalosaurusrex and gdb:   thanks
[06:09] <kalosaurusrex> :)
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> u r all noobs111
[06:10] <Toma-> !!1!
[06:10] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, what's the size of your hdd?
[06:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about !1!
[06:10] <AB3I> Toma, no, there isn't seriously
[06:10] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[06:10] <Toma-> AB3I: dont make me switch to kde
[06:10] <snoops> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd using a seperate /home partition?
[06:10] <Coir> Quick question - how can I make a directory or file modifiable to all users?
[06:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: i have raid0 2x120gig
[06:10] <Coir> by all*
[06:10] <AB3I> I've checked all 4 tabs under Sound & Multimedia, and both the tabs, General and Hardware under Sound System
[06:10] <kalosaurusrex> Coir:  chmod 777 /path
[06:10] <jackal`zzZZ> damn help..wanted to sleep, but my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes :-/ help
[06:10] <gdb> Coir: chmod o+rwx
[06:10] <Toma-> sigh. brb
[06:10] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, 15GB should be enough, 20GB if you just want to be excessive
[06:10] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> snoops: yes , ill use separate /home partition
[06:10] <AB3I> I'm running dapper, and i've noticed some glaring discrepancies with some of the interfaces
[06:11] <Coir> gdb, will that work on files and folders?
[06:11] <salah> please, anyone else? it can't be impossible to copy a simple vcd even without copyprotection...
[06:11] <AB3I> like the complete inability to switch screen resolutions while running kde on dapper
[06:11] <nhcool> ni men hao
[06:11] <nhcool> wo shi xin lai de
[06:11] <tritium> nhcool: Enlish please
[06:11] <tritium> English, even ;)
[06:11] <AB3I> oh oh
[06:11] <[Ex0r] > anyone here know a debian sweet that closely resembles macromedia studio? Basically only dreamweaver
[06:11] <nhcool> I'm chinese
[06:11] <kalosaurusrex> maybe it's pertinent to say what the /root /home partitions are for.../root is where your apps go when you use apt-get, /home is all your personal files, dvds, mp3s, etc..so keep that in mind.
[06:11] <AB3I> you didn't tell me it was under a pull down box Toma
[06:11] <AB3I> :P
[06:11] <gdb> Coir: Yes.  You may want to read a primer on Unix file permissions.  The mode settings are easier to get a handle on if you realize they're in octal.  The numbers you see like 1777, 644, 755, etc.
[06:11] <Toma-> AB3I: RIGHT.
[06:11] <AB3I> and that it isn't called Alsa, its Advnaced Linux whatever whatever
[06:11] <nhcool> I don't know english
[06:11] <AB3I> I'm a n00b
[06:12] <Toma-> AB3I: i just stubbed my toe on the computer desk :(
[06:12] <AB3I> sorry >.<
[06:12] <gdb> Coir: chmod o+rwx means "add read, write, and execute to 'others'"
[06:12] <nhcool> HOHO
[06:12] <kalosaurusrex>  [Ex0r] : NVU is a good WYSIWYG editor
[06:12] <nhcool> what
[06:12] <nhcool> ??
[06:12] <Toma-> AB3I: the better thing to do is select arts in xine
[06:12] <gdb> where read from left to right the permissions are for user, group, other.
[06:12] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: i created /usr and i only gave it like 4 gigs , and its almost full , so im gonna repartition
[06:12] <nhcool> ni men zai shuo shi me
[06:12] <Psefths> hi i want to include Intel HD Audio do it like that <*> Intel HD Audio but when i press Y in the kernel menuconfig is says it will be a module cause it depends by another module and it's like this <M>Itel HD Audio
[06:12] <userundefine> the /root dir is root user's home.  root is /
[06:12] <Psefths> what can i do ?
[06:12] <snoops> AB3I advanced linux sound architecture
[06:12] <[Ex0r] > kalosaurusrex, NVU is the equiv. of ms frontpage :\
[06:12] <nhcool> HD audio
[06:12] <AB3I> yeah snoops
[06:12] <kalosaurusrex> true true
[06:12] <AB3I> I figgered that one out
[06:12] <kalosaurusrex> but it's not. horray!
[06:13] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[06:13] <kalosaurusrex> screem is good, and bluefish..
[06:13] <tritium> nhcool: /j #ubuntu-zh
[06:13] <nhcool> you mei you china de
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <nhcool> china
[06:13] <LoRez> Warning: `nhcool' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[06:13] <Toma-> ANyone synced a SyncML style phone under ubuntu before?
[06:13] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, there's no real need to partition out anything but /home from / unless you're on a server or are netmounting shares.  nevertheless, if you want to keep it, what's the filesystem on the partition?
[06:13] <tritium> nhcool: I've only muted you for now
[06:14] <bit_doidao> to comendo duas coisas clssicas: polenguinho com biscoito piraqu
[06:14] <tritium> nhcool: please /join #ubuntu-zh
[06:14] <tritium> !pt
[06:14] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:14] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: ext3
[06:14] <cwillu> anybody know of a zip/archive mounter?
[06:14] <jonathon> hey, I'm trying to install fglrx... what do I need to add the the default 6.06 install in order to setup a driver build environment?
[06:14] <bit_doidao> wrong channel ;)
[06:15] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, you can resize ext3, but I'm not sure which package has the tools.  you have to unmount the partition first to do so
[06:15] <gdb> cwillu: if you want to browse files, you can do that in nautilus.. just double click the file and the archive manager will start
[06:15] <jonathon> I've installed kernel headers... and make/gcc thus far.
[06:15] <Toma-> cwillu: umm fileroller?
[06:15] <moparfan90> hello. i am trying to install qemu on 5.10 and it says couldnt find package checkinstall. what should i do?
[06:15] <Dapallo> hey snoop, how do i add rss feeds to amarok
[06:15] <cwillu> gdb, no, I'm looking to actually mount them in the file system, thanks though
[06:15] <gdb> cwillu: ah ok
[06:15] <salah> snoops, Toma-, any suggestion to my problem?
[06:15] <Toma-> moparfan90: "sudo apt-get install checkintall"
[06:15] <gdb> cwillu: not sure that's possible, but i hope it is for you :-)
[06:15] <kalosaurusrex> Toma--ya beat me to it :)
[06:15] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, it's probably easier to use the *parted partition program whether you're on kde or gnome
[06:15] <cwillu> gdb: anything's possible, not everything is implemented :)
[06:15] <snoops> Dapallo you can click on collection, then from the view, there's rss feeds.. right click add
[06:15] <Toma-> salah: problem is?
[06:15] <gdb> jonathon: sudo apt-get build-essential will get everything you need.
[06:16] <gdb> cwillu: lol true!
[06:16] <AB3I> ok Toma
[06:16] <AB3I> I'm stuck again
[06:16] <salah> Toma-, still try to burn this VCD file...
[06:16] <AB3I> it lets me load the Xine engine now
[06:16] <Toma-> brb
[06:16] <Toma-> oo nm
[06:16] <moparfan90> checkinstall isnt a package
[06:16] <alexicon> !upgrade >alexicon
[06:16] <Cntryboy> I sure wish there was someone here smart enough in linux to help me.
[06:16] <kalosaurusrex> mopar yes it is..
[06:16] <cwillu> gdb, know off hand the name of that usermode mounting framework?  (new ntfs work is based on it)
[06:16] <Toma-> salah: those commands i showed you didnt work?
[06:16] <AB3I> but amarok just goes straight to Playlist COmplete when  Ihit play
[06:16] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: i dont wanna mess with resizing couse i never done it , and im new to linux , and im running software raid0
[06:16] <opgeven> i have a question concerning my usb external harddrive
[06:16] <Toma-> moparfan90: yes it is
[06:16] <kalosaurusrex> !helpme
[06:16] <gdb> cwillu: No, I don't.
[06:16] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:16] <Toma-> !info checkinstall
[06:16] <ubotu> checkinstall: installation tracker. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.5.3-3ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 132 kB
[06:16] <Toma-> moparfan90: ahh you need to enable universe
[06:16] <moparfan90> whats the name then
[06:17] <cwillu> !search ntfs
[06:17] <ubotu> Found: windowsdrives, fuse
[06:17] <moparfan90> o
[06:17] <Toma-> !universe
[06:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:17] <cwillu> fuse, that's it :)
[06:17] <cwillu> !fuse > cwillu
[06:17] <AB3I> hmmm wierd Toma, gxine is playing mp3s, so my codecs are ok
[06:17] <AB3I> its just amarok being gay
[06:17] <jonathon> gdb, thanks, I just read that on the forums.
[06:17] <salah> Toma-, sure, but how do I burn the .img file? im gonna make 4 copies, and it takes a long time for each one to make a img file
[06:17] <Toma-> AB3I: thats because youve disabled arts right?
[06:17] <opgeven> where would i find my external harddrive?  in /media/ ?
[06:17] <kalosaurusrex> wb will_
[06:17] <varsendaggr> what do i ned to install to complie soemthing?
[06:17] <varsendaggr> --- make essential?
[06:17] <spades> build-essentials
[06:17] <varsendaggr> ahh
[06:17] <snoops> salah k3b will do the trick
[06:17] <kalosaurusrex> var build-essential
[06:17] <tritium> varsendaggr: build-essential (no "s")
[06:17] <moparfan90> thanks that worked
[06:17] <Paladine> how can fix a broken gtk
[06:18] <cwillu> opgeven: I believe so, yes
[06:18] <Toma-> salah: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-77074.html
[06:18] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> userundefine: thanks for the info
[06:18] <opgeven> cwillu:  all i find there is cdrom and cdrom0
[06:19] <gdb> opgeven: That's for removable media.  If it's a directly attached external hard disk, then you won't find it mounted anywhere that you don't specify.
[06:19] <userundefine> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd, no problem
[06:19] <Toma-> salah: read the 3rd post there
[06:19] <tritium> opgeven: sounds like it's not auto-mounting
[06:19] <kalosaurusrex> !fstab
[06:19] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[06:19] <opgeven> alright.  how do i mount it.
[06:19] <alexicon> !broken >alexicon
[06:19] <joseph_> why do all my videos come out really bright...everything is almost white.  im using totem, kde stuff, mplayer...is there another player or some setting?  videos on the internet dont come out like this.
[06:19] <Cntryboy> I sure wish there was someone here smart enough in linux to help me.
[06:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken
[06:19] <Cntryboy> Anyone know why after I install nvidia-glx drivers and restart X, I lose visual and monitor goes to sleep? Using geforce fx 5500
[06:19] <AB3I> brb
[06:20] <tritium> Cntryboy: look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages
[06:20] <kalosaurusrex> Cntryboy: your problem is a specific nvidia problem..not all of us have nvidia video cards ;)
[06:20] <Toma-> Cntryboy: people can help alot better if you provide logs on pastebin
[06:20] <Dapallo> snoops, I cant find an Add Podcast opition any where
[06:20] <Toma-> Cntryboy: its also kinda rude to do that
[06:20] <Cntryboy> Toma: I have done so, and everyone starts at the beginning like I haven't tried this a million times.
[06:20] <Toma-> Cntryboy: links?
[06:20] <snoops> click on collection Dapallo
[06:20] <snoops> on the side
[06:21] <alexicon> !broken package >alexicon
[06:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken package
[06:21] <Dapallo> did
[06:21] <alexicon> ...
[06:21] <joseph_> how can install helix player?
[06:21] <kalosaurusrex> alexicon what are you looking for?
[06:21] <Cntryboy> let me find them
[06:21] <Toma-> !info helixplayer
[06:21] <ubotu> Package helixplayer does not exist in dapper
[06:21] <Toma-> oic
[06:21] <alexicon> kalosaurusrex: update-manager says ive got a broken package
[06:21] <alexicon> cant remember how to fix that with apt-get
[06:21] <snoops> Dapallo http://www.newlinuxuser.com/howto-use-amarok-to-listen-to-podcasts/
[06:21] <salah> Toma-, thanks..
[06:21] <kalosaurusrex> alexicon: I could be wrong--thinking sudo apt-get -f update
[06:21] <Toma-> !info helix-player
[06:21] <ubotu> helix-player: the helix audio and video player. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-3 (dapper), package size 3966 kB, installed size 10184 kB
[06:21] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> is there a gui utility to test overclocked cpu stability?
[06:21] <tritium> The package is helix-player
[06:21] <alexicon> cheers kalosaurusrex lemme try that
[06:22] <Toma-> salah: np. theres probably a gui out there that does all this, but ive no idea :(
[06:22] <Dapallo> snoops, im already on it
[06:22] <AB3I> Toma, how the hell do I make aRts just go away?
[06:22] <carrot> janey: i know you're in here somewhere!
[06:22] <Toma-> AB3I: have you disabled it?
[06:22] <AB3I> Toma: I logged off, logged back on, and I'm back to square one. I want to completely remove aRts
[06:22] <Dapallo> I dont have that menu, whats the latest version?
[06:22] <AB3I> I cant figure out how
[06:22] <Toma-> AB3I: also, disable all audible notifications
[06:22] <salah> Toma-, forget it, this was my first and last time burning anything with linux
[06:22] <joseph_> thank you Toma-
[06:22] <AB3I> I went so far as to remove the bastard with aptitude
[06:22] <alexicon> hrmm, that updated but didnt fix. hang on
[06:22] <Toma-> joseph_: np
[06:22] <salah> Toma-, but thanks for all your help
[06:23] <Cntryboy> Toma: heres xorg.conf  http://pastebin.ca/74527  and b4 u say i need to change nv to nvidia, I already know this, but not until I find a solution to the no visual screen stuff
[06:23] <Toma-> salah: np.
[06:23] <talon218> i can't get my resolution higher than 480x620, does anyone have any ideas
[06:23] <kalosaurusrex> maybe it's just sudo apt-get -f
[06:23] <alexicon> kk
[06:23] <Toma-> Cntryboy: xorg.conf usually doesnt tell much. gimme /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[06:24] <kalosaurusrex> sudo apt-get -f check ?
[06:24] <kalosaurusrex> I think I'm getting warmer..
[06:24] <alexicon> heh
[06:24] <jake> sorry, i was disconnected.  how do i mount my external harddrive?
[06:24] <Cntryboy> toma: okay, but since i'm not using the nvidia driver and got the error right then, im not sure if it will give the exact error, but ill get it up for ya js.
[06:24] <tritium> talon218: have you tried looking at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and also sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:24] <alexicon> ooo that looked hopeful kalosaurusrex
[06:24] <Coir> Ok, my friend is getting this error, "I tried opening a terminal and it said "failed to change to directory /home/jamie' (Permission denied)" - jamie is his home directory/username
[06:24] <snoops> if you have version 1.3.3 or above Dapallo it'll have podcast support definitely
[06:24] <Toma-> Cntryboy: Gimme /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old then
[06:24] <alexicon> doh
[06:24] <alexicon> almost :P
[06:24] <tritium> Cntryboy: we need to see the log when you're using nvidia, not nv
[06:24] <talon218> no not yet i'll take a look
[06:24] <AB3I> Toma, how do I disable it? I did the alsa thing, but every time I try to swap to the xine engine in amarok, it has a melt down and says it cant initialize sound drivers, wtf?
[06:25] <stbrenner> who was that that wanted the avi to dvd converter?
[06:25] <Cntryboy> tritium: yah I know, but when u have no visual it's kinda hard to copy the log to desktop lol
[06:25] <Dapallo> nope, apt gave me 1.2
[06:25] <cwillu> Cntryboy: yep, the old logs will probably still be there, compressed maybe,
[06:25] <tritium> Cntryboy: use the cli
[06:25] <kalosaurusrex> alexicon: hmm..I know the -f fixes broke packages...for some reason I'm not getting the syntax right.
[06:25] <Cntryboy> tritium: cli?
[06:25] <cwillu> command line
[06:25] <tritium> Cntryboy: command line interface
[06:25] <Coir> Anyone? =P
[06:25] <stbrenner> *wink*
[06:25] <Toma-> AB3I: open control centre (the app) then Sound + MM > Sound system > Disable sound system checkbox
[06:25] <Dapallo> snoops, its 1.2
[06:26] <Dapallo> thats what apt gave me
[06:26] <snoops> Dapallo you probably didn't add the universal or multiverse repositories like I mentioned ;)
[06:26] <talon218> what am i looking for in the log
[06:26] <talon218> ??
[06:26] <stbrenner> Coir, try putting sudo before the command?
[06:26] <Cntryboy> tritium: I tried alt+crtl +f1 and I can't see the command prompt lol
[06:26] <Dapallo> no, i didnt see you say that
[06:26] <AB3I> ok, its off
[06:26] <cwillu> coir, open a terminal (if you can at all), and do ls -l in /home
[06:26] <Dapallo> how do it do it
[06:26] <Toma-> AB3I: open control centre (the app) then Sound + MM > System Notifications > Quick Controls - Apply to all Apps - Turn off all Sounds
[06:26] <snoops> you can do it in synaptic Dapallo
[06:26] <Cntryboy> toma: http://pastebin.ca/74536 theres what log says of now, not sure if u can tell anything from it though
[06:26] <Dapallo> how do I do it*
[06:26] <tritium> Cntryboy: then you'll have to grab /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[06:26] <cwillu> stbrenner: shoulnd't need sudo for his own home rive
[06:27] <Cntryboy> tritium: ive done this all day, I probably have 100 log.old lol
[06:27] <snoops> settings>repositories I believe Dapallo
[06:27] <phormat> is xchat the way to go for an irc app?
[06:27] <Toma-> Cntryboy: this is useless.
[06:27] <tritium> Cntryboy: no, they're not all kept
[06:27] <AB3I> Toma, are you using Dapper?
[06:27] <tritium> phormat: many use irssi
[06:27] <Toma-> AB3I: yep
[06:27] <talon218> tritium what am i looking for in the log
[06:27] <xnull-> !ati
[06:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:27] <talon218> ??
[06:27] <Coir> ok, I am logged in via SSH as root on his shell atm,
[06:27] <Coir> did ls -l in home
[06:27] <tritium> talon218: any messages indicating why your resolution is so low
[06:27] <AB3I> oh I see
[06:27] <talon218> k just a sec
[06:27] <phormat> thanks tritium will check it out
[06:28] <Cntryboy> tritium: okay then let me go back and lose visual and try to get to command prompt for u. to copy the log to desktop what would the command be exactly so i can write this down .
[06:28] <Dapallo> okay, snoops, now what
[06:28] <tritium> Cntryboy: no need, I said
[06:28] <Coir> drw-rw-rwx 21
[06:28] <cwillu> Coir: owner/group?
[06:28] <tritium> phormat: keep in mind, it's not a gui app
[06:28] <will_> how does the get command work again^
[06:28] <Cntryboy> tritium: why?
[06:28] <Coir> jamie jamie
[06:28] <will_> get app something
[06:28] <opgeven> how do i mount an external harddrive?
[06:28] <tritium> Cntryboy: if you tried nvidia last time, it's the .old log file
[06:28] <alexicon> kalosaurusrex: trying apt-get upgrade -f this time, looks like its doing a bit more
[06:28] <snoops> Dapallo then add the multiverse and universal repostiroes from the list
[06:28] <AB3I> OK Toma, I turned them off
[06:29] <Cntryboy> tritium: okay let me grab that then and put on pastebin
[06:29] <kalosaurusrex> yay alex!
[06:29] <alexicon> yep thats it ^_^
[06:29] <cwillu> Coir: and when he starts the terminal (running under jamie), it says access denied?
[06:29] <will_> HOW DOES GET APP WORK
[06:29] <will_> Please
[06:29] <kalosaurusrex> Cntryboy:  have you looked at this website for possible assistance installing/reinstalling the nvidia driver? v
[06:29] <kalosaurusrex> http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html
[06:29] <will_> <--- NEWB
[06:29] <kalosaurusrex> !apt-get
[06:29] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[06:29] <tritium> will_: please don't yell
[06:29] <cwillu> coir:  I _think_ owner and group need execute permissions on the folder, but I'm not dead sure
[06:30] <Cntryboy> tritium: http://pastebin.ca/74537
[06:30] <Coir> cwillu, he says he fixed it... took off his execution permissions
[06:30] <AB3I> will
[06:30] <AB3I> type 'man apt-get
[06:30] <tritium> kalosaurusrex: please don't recommend that.  Instead, use the ubuntu wiki page for nvidia
[06:30] <will_> Thx :D
[06:30] <AB3I> that will give you a quick and dirty tutorial
[06:30] <kalosaurusrex> okie sorry
[06:30] <Coir> cwillu, thanks for the help, though
[06:30] <Cntryboy> kalosaurusrex: sorta I was going to install his script, but he basically writes it out where u dont have to do what ive done which isn't that hard
[06:30] <cwillu> Coir: np
[06:30] <tritium> kalosaurusrex: no worries, thanks
[06:30] <phormat> my screensavers and video playback has really slowed down after installing xgl/compiz -- any fix for that?
[06:30] <alexicon> !upgrade >alexicon
[06:31] <Toma-> Cntryboy: this is useless too.
[06:31] <tritium> Cntryboy: did you follow the ubuntu wiki page?
[06:31] <Cntryboy> tritium: yesssss
[06:31] <distanceisdeath> how do i install real player
[06:31] <opgeven> question:  how do i mount my external harddrive
[06:31] <tritium> Cntryboy: it was using the nv driver, which isn't going to help us help you
[06:31] <Cntryboy> tritium: I followed this to a T, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:32] <Cntryboy> tritium: thats why I said, what would the command be exactly to copy new log to desktop
[06:32] <talon218> tritium: i saw several "not suitable for bios": does this mean anything; what was that reconfig command
[06:32] <Toma-> Cntryboy: switch to nvidia driver, let it error. then run "sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /tmp" then switch back to nv and start X as usual. then copy /tmp/Xorg.0.log upto pastebin
[06:32] <Cntryboy> tritium: ill lose visual and copy log so I can paste it after I reconfig xserver
[06:32] <AB3I> Toma, my system sounds are off, now how do I rip the guts out of aRts?
[06:32] <tritium> Cntryboy: also, please comment out any lines for the wacom table
[06:32] <Toma-> AB3I: you cant. its part of kde.
[06:32] <tritium> talon218: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:33] <Cntryboy> toma: thanks let me write that down
[06:33] <Toma-> Cntryboy: ok.
[06:33] <AB3I> bah!
[06:33] <AB3I> how do I turn it off then?
[06:34] <kvasov> hi
[06:34] <Toma-> AB3I: when i was young and naieve, i renamed the artsd command to artsd-1, but that started a couple errors
[06:34] <Toma-> AB3I: the way i told you
[06:34] <AB3I> haha
[06:34] <AB3I> wait
[06:34] <AB3I> so to have mp3s, I have to forgoe any system sounds?
[06:34] <kvasov> how come all of a sudden my user cannot access /dev/hda* or /dev/dsp. i get no sound w/my user and vmware no longer runs
[06:34] <Toma-> AB3I: no
[06:34] <kvasov> sudo also appears to have been reset
[06:34] <AB3I> ok then I missed something after *turn off system sounds*
[06:34] <Toma-> AB3I: what are you using to listen to mp3s?
[06:34] <snoops> !realplayer > distanceisdeath
[06:35] <kvasov> any ideas?
[06:35] <AB3I> amarok
[06:35] <AB3I> but it uses the xine engine
[06:35] <kvasov> when i go to /media/sda1 it says access denied
[06:35] <Toma-> AB3I: ok, ill install amarok and see whats up
[06:35] <Cntryboy> toma: so   sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /tmp   then after I get back into X,  then sudo gedit /tmp/Xorg.0.log and put it on pastebin right?
[06:36] <Toma-> Cntryboy: no need for the 2nd sudo
[06:36] <Toma-> but yes
[06:36] <Cntryboy> toma: okay thx brb
[06:36] <AB3I> however, I think my problems extend beyond just hte engine of choice right now
[06:36] <AB3I> every time I hit play, it goes directly to Playlist Finished
[06:36] <AB3I> which is its way of telling you its got nothing to play
[06:36] <AB3I> or no codecs for the media selected
[06:37] <AB3I> even though gxine is playing mp3s fine now
[06:37] <Toma-> AB3I: yeh, no codecs.
[06:37] <tritium> AB3I: just use periods instead of hitting enter so often.
[06:37] <Toma-> AB3I: xne and amarok use different plugins
[06:37] <Toma-> actually, they do
[06:37] <Toma-> nm
[06:37] <AB3I> they use the same codecs though. amarok is built to use gstreamer, xine codecs etc. Atleast thats what I've been told
[06:38] <Toma-> AB3I: im getting the same. brb
[06:38] <AB3I> hmmm
[06:38] <AB3I> wierd
[06:38] <kvasov> hi. does anyone have any idea why my default ubuntu user is unable to browser /media/sd* folders? it used to work before i updated some packages for 6.06
[06:38] <Dapallo> snoops, its still only giving me 1.2
[06:38] <kalosaurusrex> kvasov: what are the permissions on the /media/sd* folder?
[06:38] <kvasov> dr-xr-x--- 1 root plugdev 16384 2003-01-01 01:12 sdb1
[06:39] <Toma-> kvasov: any weird permissions set in fstab?
[06:39] <snoops> did you did reload on synaptic or "sudo apt-get update" Dapallo?
[06:39] <kvasov> /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[06:39] <Dapallo> reload
[06:39] <kalosaurusrex> your flash drive is ntfs?
[06:39] <delmar> when I was using breezy, I had a line in my fstab like..   //1921.68.1.1/share  /media/servershare   cifs  credentials=/etc/samba/user,rw,uid=someuser  then in /etc/sambe/user i have two lines... username = username  and password = somepassword.   this mounted the share at boot etc.  now it doesnt work and when i do mount -a it fails and the logs show .. CIFS VFS: No username specified .. what has changed in Dapper that broke thing
[06:39] <delmar> s?
[06:39] <kvasov> it's not  flash drive
[06:40] <snoops> then searched for amarok again and tried to install Dapallo?
[06:40] <kalosaurusrex> ahh
[06:40] <kvasov> are my settings any different from the default 6.06 installation?
[06:40] <Toma-> AB3I: definitly codec problem. i can play oggs fine, but not mp3s.
[06:40] <AB3I> wierd
[06:40] <Dapallo> it tells me the version next to it.  But when its building the list, im getting alot of fail connections
[06:40] <will_> hey where do I find UBUNTU session themes
[06:40] <will_> Are they called windows^
[06:40] <delmar> of course the //1921.68.1.1/share is a typo... 192.168.1.1 is what I meant.
[06:41] <kvasov> kalosaurusrex, are those weird?
[06:41] <snoops> Dapallo you are using dapper right?
[06:41] <AB3I> amarok worked flawlessly right out of hte box on breezy. I've got the same media players on it, the same codecs. I wonder if they just borked something in dapper that makes amarok unusable
[06:41] <Toma-> AB3I: run this "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly libxine-extracodecs"
[06:41] <kalosaurusrex> well everything looks okay to me..but onestly I haven't had to mount an ntfs drive, so I can't say for sure.
[06:41] <Dapallo> no
[06:41] <Dapallo> hoary
[06:41] <snoops> ahhh
[06:41] <delmar> Anyone know what has changed with Dapper that broke the way smbmount works and the tidy way to fix my problem above?
[06:41] <snoops> well there's your problem
[06:41] <AB3I> I've got the libxine extracodecs, I'll try that particular path though
[06:41] <will_> whats adapper
[06:41] <kvasov> kalosaurusrex, it's not just the ntfs stuff. i can't get sound in any user except root anymore
[06:42] <kvasov> and vmware is no longer starting in non root users
[06:42] <kalosaurusrex> not sure..sorry. :(
[06:42] <Dapallo> what should i do?
[06:42] <kalosaurusrex> I'd like to know though..
[06:42] <bluefoxicy> o.o furret
[06:42] <kalosaurusrex> assuming you checked the permissions on the dirs?
[06:42] <snoops> you could upgrade to dapper, since it's much better.. and what most people are using Dapallo
[06:42] <Toma-> AB3I: i ran that, now im getting mp3 support
[06:42] <hyphenated> kvasov: the problem is your user isn't in the 'plugdev' group
[06:42] <Dapallo> yeah, okay, how
[06:42] <kvasov> hyphenated, is that the default?
[06:42] <kalosaurusrex> night!
[06:43] <kvasov> usermod -G plugdev -a $user ?
[06:43] <AB3I> Toma, did you have to restart?
[06:43] <Toma-> AB3I: only amarok
[06:43] <Dapallo> how do i upgrade to dapper from hoary?
[06:43] <alexicon> other way round
[06:43] <AB3I> hmm
[06:43] <alexicon> hoary to dapper
[06:43] <AB3I> mine is still borked
[06:43] <alexicon> and i have the same question
[06:43] <Dapallo> lol
[06:43] <alexicon> cos i followed the steps and it didnt work
[06:44] <kvasov> hyphenated, i used the usermod command to add myself to plugdev and still not result
[06:44] <Toma-> AB3I: have you restarted it? make sure its not just sitting in the systray
[06:44] <hyphenated> kvasov: well, I didn't explicitly add myself to that group.
[06:44] <kvasov> so how does that work
[06:44] <AB3I> I'll try ending the session and restarting. Maybe amarok is running in the background. I did kill it from the systray though
[06:44] <hyphenated> kvasov: group changes take effect at login time
[06:44] <Dapallo> snoops, how do i upgrade from hoary, to dapper
[06:44] <Cntryboy> toma: I'm in /tmp now and I don't see the file I did.
[06:44] <hyphenated> kvasov: run 'bash --login' inside your current terminal and see if it helps
[06:45] <Toma-> Cntryboy: sigh. copy it somewhere else then. like your homefolder
[06:45] <Cntryboy> toma: well I see a bunch of folders would it be in one of those?
[06:45] <will_> WHats is a dapper?
[06:45] <Toma-> Cntryboy: its a plain text file.
[06:45] <kvasov> hyphenated, that works. but other things are still not working. how is it that you are able to have plugdev membership without being listed in the groups file?
[06:45] <will_> Wow the room is really not Noob friendly tonight
[06:45] <Toma-> will_: dictionary.com
[06:46] <Dapallo> will_: Dapper is the recent distro of ubuntu
[06:46] <Cntryboy> can I do a search through term with a command in tmp to find files?
[06:46] <will_> Usually all my dumb window XP convert questions are answered!
[06:46] <hyphenated> kvasov: grep plugdev /etc/group and look for your user
[06:46] <will_> Maybe I should go back to worshiping billy
[06:46] <roostishaw> if i want to run myscript.sh by typing simply myscript, where do i copy it to?
[06:46] <Cntryboy> toma: this is what I c folder wise gconfd-cd       mapping-cd  ssh-qBoApc4813
[06:46] <Cntryboy> keyring-i4ZbgH  orbit-cd    virtual-cd.9nDnO5
[06:46] <snoops> Dapallo okay, well you can open your /etc/apt/sources.list then change all the 'hoary' references to 'dapper'
[06:46] <AB3I> Thanks Toma. It must have been hiding in the background. It works fine now. You rock. Thanks for all your help and patience
[06:46] <Dapallo> okay
[06:46] <Toma-> Cntryboy: just open gedit, browse to /tmp and look for Xorg.0.log
[06:47] <snoops> then, do 'sudo apt-get upgrade' then do 'sudo dist-upgrade'
[06:47] <Toma-> AB3I: np :)
[06:47] <AB3I> imma go to bed. Night all
[06:47] <kvasov> hyphenated, i added myself manually. yet, i am not in the audio group and audio is not working. i dont think the default installation had me in all these groups
[06:47] <cwillu> in other news, anybody of hear of such a thing as ssh virtual hosting (other than by port)?
[06:47] <kvasov> i am pretty sure i was in only one group
[06:47] <hyphenated> kvasov: the first user created via the installer should have been put in a bunch of groups
[06:48] <CanadaKinky> HELP
[06:48] <Cntryboy> toma: not there, so why did the command you said work? I typed it exactly and it dropped to the next line?
[06:48] <roostishaw> if i want to run myscript.sh by typing simply myscript, where do i copy it to?
[06:48] <kvasov> what are those groups
[06:48] <Cntryboy> didn't
[06:48] <Toma-> Cntryboy: maybe /tmp got cleaned when you restarted X
[06:48] <Dapallo> snoops, it wont let me edit it
[06:48] <benplaut_win> i'm on a nvidia system (with the drivers), and have no clue in hell on how to get suspend... i've always used ati.  Any starting points?
[06:48] <Psefths> how can i install only one driver from the kernel and not the whole kernel ?
[06:49] <Cntryboy> toma: so my home dir is named cd so what would that be called? when Im copying it to home?
[06:49] <Toma-> Cntryboy: i dont have much time left, ive got things to tend to... just do it again and "sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log <YOURHOMEFOLDERHERE>"
[06:49] <kvasov> hyphenated, can you paste what groups i am supposed to be a part of?
[06:49] <Madpilot> CanadaKinky, you'll get better help if you actually ask a question...
[06:49] <hyphenated> kvasov: my user is in the following groups (first group is the same name as username): username adm disk dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev staff lpadmin scanner admin
[06:49] <dli> Psefths, elaborate
[06:49] <snoops> Dapallo you have to use sudo since it's a protected system file
[06:49] <kvasov> hyphenated, thanks.
[06:49] <Cntryboy> toma: sorry bro, I know what would my home dir look like in command prompt
[06:49] <Dapallo> okay, so what do i type in the command line
[06:49] <CanadaKinky> i'm running 6.06 on an iBook g4
[06:49] <alexicon> can i manually change the sources to dapper from hoary on the command line???
[06:49] <Cntryboy> /home/cd ?
[06:49] <Toma-> Cntryboy: better yet "sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~"
[06:49] <roostishaw> if i want to run myscript.sh by typing simply myscript, where do i copy it to?
[06:49] <CanadaKinky> i'm needing to install JRE and Flash
[06:49] <alexicon> it suggests im supposed to change from breezy to dapper, but will hoary work the same way
[06:49] <Psefths> dli, if i elemenate all the others and just install the driver i want , compile and instsall it will be ok ?
[06:50] <cwillu> !java > CanadaKinky:
[06:50] <Toma-> CanadaKinky: ppc flash doesnt exist
[06:50] <Cntryboy> toma: i'm going to sudo cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /home/cd
[06:50] <Cntryboy> is that okay?
[06:50] <Toma-> Cntryboy: ok.
[06:50] <Madpilot> CanadaKinky, I think you're out of luck for both, on PPC
[06:50] <Cntryboy> ok please dont leave, brb
[06:50] <Dapallo> nvm, got it
[06:50] <snoops> Dapallo "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" then replace all references of hoary with dapper and save it. Then "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo dist-upgrade"
[06:50] <dli> Psefths, you can use m-a
[06:50] <dli> !tell Psefths about m-a
[06:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about m-a
[06:50] <cwillu> CanadaKinky: might be able to download a binary from http://sun.com/java/ , but don't hold your breath
[06:50] <Dapallo> yeah i got it snoops
[06:51] <alexicon> thanks snoops
[06:51] <Psefths> noome told me about m-a :(
[06:51] <dli> !tell Psefths about modules-assistant
[06:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about modules-assistant
[06:51] <Psefths> lol
[06:51] <CanadaKinky> tried that already
[06:51] <Psefths> me neither
[06:51] <crimsun> CanadaKinky: IBM makes a JDK/JRE for ppc
[06:51] <crimsun> CanadaKinky: there is no Flash for Linux/ppc
[06:51] <CanadaKinky> serious crimsun?
[06:51] <kvasov> i'll relogin to see if it all works
[06:51] <grphx> So I somehow locked myself out of my desktop folder.  I try to go in it and it says access denied
[06:52] <rlim> who knows how to install skype?
[06:52] <cwillu> grphx: did you take off execute permissions on it?
[06:52] <grphx> No
[06:52] <Toma-> grphx: reboot
[06:52] <varsendaggr> hey is there a 3d desktop al la project looking glass?
[06:52] <snoops> ah umm no worries alexicon
[06:52] <grphx> Ight
[06:52] <bluefoxicy> PrjLG was awesome.
[06:52] <Toma-> varsendaggr: you can compile lookingglass on ubuntu
[06:52] <crimsun> CanadaKinky: wrt what?
[06:52] <dli> Psefths, you can use make-kpkg modules-image , if you have compiled your kernel
[06:52] <Psefths> dli, for instance i want to install only driver , pci , sound, intel HD.......
[06:52] <Toma-> varsendaggr: theres also metisse, but its pretty old
[06:52] <phormat> anyone notice severe screensaver slowdowns using xgl/compiz?
[06:53] <snoops> varsendaggr you know the 3d desktop from jurassic park? that was made for linux. heh
[06:53] <crimsun> CanadaKinky: yes, I'm serious about both
[06:53] <Psefths> make-kpkg is not installed what apt-get?
[06:53] <dli> Psefths, if you are using the ubuntu kernel, you can simply modprobe
[06:53] <varsendaggr> snoops where can i get that?
[06:53] <dli> Psefths, m-a is third party drivers
[06:53] <Psefths> any link cause i am noob?
[06:53] <crimsun> CanadaKinky: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/linux/download.html
[06:54] <snoops> haha you'd actually want to try it.. don't you remember it?
[06:54] <varsendaggr> is compiz opensource?
[06:54] <varsendaggr> snoops, sorry dude
[06:55] <Dapallo> GPG error: http://ftp.us.debian.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
[06:55] <Dapallo> i keep getting that
[06:55] <Dapallo> towards the end
[06:55] <dli> Psefths, the drivers should have been loaded auto :( run: lsmod
[06:55] <snoops> Dapallo that'll be some repository you've added after.. heh
[06:55] <grphx> Thanks!
[06:55] <cwillu> anyone around who can fix the bot for me?  5 invalid comments in a minute isn't very much, considering that a search with no results counts as an invalid comment
[06:55] <Dapallo> ?
[06:56] <Dapallo> snoops, what do you mean?  dont worry about it?
[06:56] <Toma-> cwillu: what?
[06:56] <Cntryboy> toma: http://pastebin.ca/74542
[06:56] <Psefths> hmmmmm any how-to on that?
[06:56] <cwillu> Toma-: ubotu ignores you if you make 5 invalid comments (i know nothing about <foo>) in a minute, but searches count against the total
[06:57] <Toma-> cwillu: so people dont flood the bot
[06:57] <cwillu> yes, but searches should count that much
[06:57] <Toma-> Cntryboy: now we're cookin :)
[06:57] <Cntryboy> toma: :)
[06:57] <cwillu> especially in pm's
[06:57] <dli> Psefths, pastebin output of your lspci , and ask for specific hardware
[06:57] <Cntryboy> toma: please let their be hope lol
[06:57] <cwillu> should=shouldn't
[06:58] <Ademan> any of you guys do web design? i'm are there any "good" web design programs for linux? (i'm going to write the site in php later, but i want to prototype it in plain html)
[06:58] <Dapallo> snoops?
[06:58] <Toma-> cwillu: gotta protect the bot... just use apt-cache for better searches?
[06:58] <alexicon> whats up Dapallo
[06:58] <Toma-> Ademan: nvu
[06:58] <alexicon> its worked fine for me
[06:58] <cwillu> Toma-: apt-cache doesn't neccessarily give you instructions, wiki pages, etc
[06:58] <alexicon> so far anyway heh
[06:58] <Ademan> thanks Toma-
[06:58] <Psefths> hmmmm i don't understatnd anything.... thank you for your time i know i can't bother you all the time, i'll google it
[06:58] <alexicon> im doing the apt-get dist-update now
[06:58] <snoops> yeah don't worry about it Dapallo.. you could just remove it from sources.list heh
[06:58] <cwillu> Toma-: I _could_ just use the cgi, but irc is open and mozilla isn't :p
[06:58] <Toma-> !info
[06:58] <Dapallo> okay
[06:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about info
[06:58] <Toma-> !ubotu
[06:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[06:58] <Toma-> cwillu: file a big
[06:59] <Dapallo> Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _dapper Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) dapper/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fdapper%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_dapper_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[06:59] <Dapallo> what about that snoops?
[06:59] <alexicon> oh Dapallo cdrom
[06:59] <alexicon> lol
[06:59] <snoops> varsendaggr if you're really interested.. http://nooface.net/3dui.shtml have a look at 'FSN'
[06:59] <varsendaggr> has anyone used qemu on dapper?
[06:59] <alexicon> you havent got the cdrom just ignore that
[06:59] <Dapallo> okay
[06:59] <alexicon> and remove it from the update-manager sources later
[06:59] <alexicon> jah
[06:59] <Dapallo> so now what
[06:59] <alexicon> next step do the :  sudo apt-get dist-update
[06:59] <alexicon> or upgrade
[07:00] <alexicon> hmmm
[07:00] <Toma-> Cntryboy: you set the monitor up? you have some whacky vert and horz sync rates
[07:00] <cyphase> how do you run glxgears without a window? i've seen a screenshot of it..
[07:00] <alexicon> it takes ages cos youll get about 650mb binary packages...
[07:00] <Dapallo> okay, i got it, well, ill bbl becuase it has alot to download
[07:00] <Cntryboy> toma: default
[07:00] <varsendaggr> snoop nice
[07:00] <grphx> Is there a way to add multiple owners to a directory?
[07:01] <Dapallo> thanks for all of the help snoops, and alexicon
[07:01] <alexicon> grphx: make a group
[07:01] <alexicon> grphx: or an acl
[07:01] <Cntryboy> toma: what ever it sets it to auto.. but I thought it might have something to do with mon refresh rate, but my monitor is so old I can't find the specs for it
[07:01] <Toma-> Cntryboy: mmm. not the best if you want to tackle high res like 1600. set your rates right and you will have a better chance
[07:01] <alexicon> np Dapallo ^5
[07:01] <snoops> you're welcome Dapallo
[07:01] <dli> grphx, like the system wide /tmp ?
[07:01] <MrDade> Good evening, can someone please recommend where I can download a good movie player (similar to the windows media player)  for ubuntu?
[07:01] <Cntryboy> toma: how?
[07:01] <Toma-> Cntryboy: what model is it?
[07:01] <grphx> Yeh I guess
[07:01] <dli> MrDade, install totem
[07:01] <alexicon> what sort of file is it grphx a system file or just a user file
[07:01] <kvasov> alexicon, SElinux?
[07:01] <dli> MrDade, enable restricted formats
[07:02] <grphx> I have one directory that I want to be able to log into from my ssh with that name, but I want to be able to dro pand drag stuff into that folder
[07:02] <grphx> just a user file I guess
[07:02] <MrDade> dli:  i did, but everytime I click on a movie on a website it talks about codec needed
[07:02] <Toma-> ive gotta go
[07:02] <alexicon> kvasov: its grphx question hehe
[07:02] <Cntryboy> toma: emc 986m i think, not to sure. since proview magview and emc I think are the same compa.
[07:02] <Cntryboy> toma: back of monitor says 986m but from what I remember years ago it was emc
[07:02] <alexicon> grphx: id make a group for the file, and have both users you want to use that file in the group
[07:03] <kvasov> alexicon, i am just curious. if you have n users, there's 2^n possible groups
[07:03] <alexicon> but youll have to put the file/folder somewhere accessible to both users
[07:03] <cwillu> okay, fuse, fuse-dev, and fuse-python2.4;  I'm all set :)
[07:03] <varsendaggr> !qemu
[07:03] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[07:03] <kvasov> alexicon, it's not practical to create many groups to have proper permissions
[07:03] <alexicon> kvasov: generally i will try and do a group if i can, acls can get messy
[07:03] <alexicon> what do you suggest?
[07:04] <kvasov> alexicon, it's much easier w/ ntfs where you can have many users and many groups assigned to one file
[07:04] <MrDade> Good evening, can someone please recommend where I can download a good movie player (similar to the windows media player)  for ubuntu?
[07:04] <Cntryboy> toma: what does the line say in log about my refresh rates so I can type in find the line and look at it if u dont mind
[07:04] <alexicon> ntfs.. hehe. can you assign multiple groups to a file in linux?
[07:04] <kvasov> alexicon, that's my question. how easy is it to set up the ACL and what package
[07:04] <alexicon> ive never tried :x
[07:04] <MrDade> Totem is not working for me because it talks about a codec needed to be able to play online stream videos
[07:04] <jojopaderes> MrDate: you can use totem player with xine engine
[07:04] <alexicon> setfacl is the command
[07:05] <alexicon> should be standard
[07:05] <alexicon> setfacl/getfacl
[07:05] <MrDade> xine engine?  thats the codec?
[07:05] <cwillu> alexicon: just so you know, setting user permissions directly on ntfs objects is deprecated;  you still have a point re: groups though
[07:05] <alexicon> you can add a list of users to a specific file
[07:05] <alexicon> i dunno anything about ntfs :P
[07:05] <cwillu> kvasov: what I just said to alexicon was meant for you :p
[07:05] <alexicon> havent used windows in about 7 years :x
[07:05] <jojopaderes> nope, just the engine, in my experience it works a lot better than gstreamer
[07:05] <grphx> Okay so I made a group for this folder, but I go to try and change the permissions to let the new group access it and I can't because I'm not the owner.
[07:06] <DeMoNSeEd> change totem to totem-xine
[07:06] <cwillu> grphx: sudo chmod
[07:06] <alexicon> for ssh and so forth i generally set up a /share and make a share group.
[07:06] <grphx> I'm trying to do it in gui
[07:06] <snoops> alexicon it hasn't changed much since then.. the only feature I was interested in vista for was pretty much scraped today.
[07:06] <alexicon> heh
[07:06] <kvasov> what does setfacl use. i image you have to have kernel support to do the acl
[07:06] <Toma-> Cntryboy: No size information available in CRT-0's EDID
[07:06] <kvasov> does the base linux kernel have a nation of acls?
[07:06] <Toma-> Cntryboy: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=61189
[07:06] <kvasov> notion*
[07:06] <cwillu> kvasov: some filesystems do I believe
[07:06] <WOLFdude> hi
[07:07] <Cntryboy> toma: what does that link show?
[07:07] <prussian> http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2006-June/047488.html
[07:07] <Toma-> Cntryboy: all you need to know about that error
[07:07] <cwillu> kvasov: if I recall correctly, extended attributes where intended for that purpose
[07:07] <grphx> cwillu: What do i chmod it to?
[07:07] <Toma-> Cntryboy: ive really gotta go. cya
[07:07] <prussian> Move to OFTC.
[07:07] <cwillu> don't know if it's implemented in a deb though
[07:07] <WOLFdude>  anyone: how do i stop apache2 once i have sarted it?
[07:07] <prussian> DCC SEND LILO_IS_A_FUCKING_FRAUD 0 0 0
[07:07] <cwillu> WOLFdude: should be in services under system|admin
[07:07] <kvasov> well apt-get install acl gets it
[07:07] <cyphase> hmm
[07:08] <alexicon> acl isnt standard!?
[07:08] <cwillu> !ops
[07:08] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[07:08] <kvasov> maybe this is the way that fedora core denies root user access to other users' home directories
[07:08] <alindeman> I klined
[07:08] <Amaranth> alindeman: thanks
[07:08] <cwillu> prussian needs to go I think :)
[07:08] <Madpilot> cwillu, already klined
[07:08] <cwillu> okay, sorry, Madpilot
[07:08] <cyphase> just before it gets to the end, the window goes black, then back when it passes a certain point
[07:08] <Hobbsee> alindeman: another staff memeber hey?
[07:08] <DeMoNSeEd> MrDade, you get it going yet?
[07:08] <alindeman> Hi, yah
[07:08] <Amaranth> We're down to about 10-15 people that get hit by that.
[07:09] <Madpilot> cwillu, no harm done - but Freenode staff are better at this than mere ops :)
[07:09] <Amaranth> I'm seriously considering banning them.
[07:09] <snoops> oh haha I haven't tried that cyphase... probably some firefox bug
[07:09] <grphx> So what do I chmod the folder to so I can access it?
[07:09] <Luke> is anyone else not getting any sound with dapper?
[07:09] <Amaranth> Maybe the morons will stop bothering us then.
[07:09] <WOLFdude>  anyone: how do i stop apache2 once i have sarted it?
[07:09] <kvasov> setfacl: test: Operation not supported
[07:09] <Amaranth> WOLFdude: sudo invoke-rc.d apache2 stop
[07:09] <cyphase> snoops: probably, but i'm going to try something else
[07:09] <Cntryboy> dang he left :(
[07:09] <WOLFdude>  anyone: how do i stop apache2 once i have sarted it?, theres no optionto turn it off
[07:09] <MrDade> Demonseed:  Im downloading xine-lib 1.1.1 this moment
[07:09] <tanlaan> how can i make a shell script, which starts one of my programs only when i cd to the folder and then type ./Startmux, start my program on startup?
[07:09] <cwillu> alexicon: try installing acl
[07:09] <DeMoNSeEd> k
[07:09] <pfalcone> WOLFdude: /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[07:10] <WOLFdude> what does rc.d mean?
[07:10] <snoops> tanlaan might be better off asking in #bash ?
[07:10] <kvasov> cwillu, even with the installation it says operating not supported
[07:10] <jerware> hiya
[07:10] <DeMoNSeEd> are you registered MrDade ?
[07:10] <alexicon> cwillu: i dont need it :P im not really a fan of it, but it was the standard my old job enforced
[07:10] <jerware> 'what firefox plug-in is used for high definition?
[07:10] <cyphase> snoops: same thing happened with a gnome-terminal window :)
[07:10] <Amaranth> WOLFdude: Not a clue, I just know it does what you want.
[07:10] <cwillu> kvasov: one sec
[07:10] <tanlaan> ummm....ok ill switch to #bash
[07:10] <jerware> or how can i return the needed web browser plugin for the current page that  is requesting it ?  i use firefox
[07:10] <snoops> cyphase heh.. oh well well alpha software.. and who would honestly ever want to stretch it that far
[07:10] <nalioth> der0b: vanberge nicolas_ winXperts jbirdAngel amonkey Mugginns skavenge userundefine Mewshi kaptengu rlb3 Disorganized billybennett   PLEASE CHANGE YOUR CONNECTION PORT TO 8001 or /msg ubotu dcc to protect yourselves from future exploits
[07:11] <cyphase> snoops: i was trying out the expose feature
[07:11] <cyphase> wanted to see how it'd handle a window that big
[07:11] <Amaranth> nalioth: See anything wrong with banning the last few that always get hit by that?
[07:11] <snoops> does it?
[07:11] <Amaranth> nalioth: People will probably stop trying it if they see it doesn't work.
[07:11] <nalioth> Amaranth: is it the same folks?
[07:11] <Amaranth> nalioth: If they don't, it'll at least be less noise.
[07:12] <Amaranth> nalioth: I believe so, yes.
[07:12] <WOLFdude> how do i start apache2?????
[07:12] <Amaranth> nalioth: Some of them are the same, anyway.
[07:12] <grphx> So how can I change the owner of a folder if I'm not the owner?
[07:12] <Amaranth> grphx: you have to use sudo
[07:12] <dsas> grphx: You have to change it using sudo
[07:12] <grphx> sudo chmod folder_name....
[07:12] <grphx> what else?
[07:12] <grphx> Or is that right>
[07:12] <grphx> ?
[07:12] <dsas> grphx: sudo chown <user> <filename>
[07:12] <pfalcone> WOLFdude: /etc/init.d/apache2 start. the scripts say how it should be used
[07:13] <grphx> And how do I change the owner toa group?
[07:13] <kvasov> cwillu, you have to add acl to the fstab file
[07:13] <dsas> grphx: You don't.
[07:13] <alexicon> chown user:group file
[07:13] <Amaranth> grphx: sudo chown <user>:<group> <filename>
[07:13] <alexicon> or chgrp
[07:13] <dsas> Changing owner to a group, or changing the group?
[07:13] <varsendaggr> apt-get qemu
[07:13] <grphx> Er.. the group
[07:13] <kvasov> cwillu, http://tlug.dnho.net/?q=node/171
[07:13] <Dames> Can someone explain to me how to overwrite my xorg.conf file, it says I don't have permissions.
[07:13] <WOLFdude> i typed /etc/init.d/apache2 start, it said permission not allowed
[07:14] <grphx> I made a group so myself, and the original owner can access it
[07:14] <dsas> WOLFdude: Put sudo there first
[07:14] <pfalcone> WOLFdude: use sudo
[07:14] <userundefine> Dames, you have to do it with sudo
[07:14] <MrDade> Demonseed:  OK, I extracted the file, and I also did "./configure"   but the next instruction "make install"  is not working for me, it says "make command not found"
[07:14] <Dames> I saved the new one in a different location, but when I try and replace it, it says I need permision.
[07:14] <Dames> How would I replace it using terminal?
[07:14] <DeMoNSeEd> have you installed build-essential
[07:14] <dsas> grphx: Ok, like the others said then chgrp <group> <file>
[07:14] <MrDade> I dont think I did
[07:14] <DeMoNSeEd> pm me MrDade
[07:14] <alexicon> MrDade: ./configure   then   make    then make install
[07:14] <userundefine> Dames, sudo mv *replacing file path* *file path to be replaced*
[07:15] <fdsd> hey guys, I was wondering if it would be easy to modify the picture loading up on the ubuntu live cd,  I uncompressed the initrd.img-2.6.15-23-powerpc file for the ppc live cd, and I think I found the usplash-artwork.so file, I want to edit it with my own graphic and redo the initrd.img, can anyone give me any advice on this?  I am on gentoo and I cant find the pngtobogl app
[07:15] <alexicon> but if you dont have make, you need a C compiler
[07:15] <Amaranth> !compiling > MrDade
[07:15] <tanlaan> anyone know how to use a shell script, which you need to cd to the folder its in to use it, on startup?
[07:15] <DeMoNSeEd> he seems to need to install build-essential
[07:15] <cwillu> kvasov: okay, good to know that it's in the kernel at least though
[07:15] <grphx> Heh almost there.
[07:15] <grphx> I can get into it but not write to it
[07:15] <DeMoNSeEd> why are you compiling anyhoo
[07:16] <MrDade> alexicon:  i tried "make"  but it says "make command not found"
[07:16] <cwillu> kvasov: more of a capability model guy myself anyway (not that there's _any_ support for it in the kernel other than file descriptors, but whatever :p)
[07:16] <WOLFdude> if i am hostin from my apache2 should iuseport forwardingor a dmz?
[07:16] <Dames> Wow, thank you all. =] 
[07:16] <alexicon> MrDade: you might need to install gcc
[07:16] <alexicon> sheesh doesnt ubuntu come wiht a compiler :P
[07:16] <some_dude> hi
[07:17] <cwillu> WOLFdude: port forward is probably simplest;   you can always vhost more sites through the single port if you need to
[07:17] <some_dude> I'm looking for resolver.conf and rdesktop
[07:17] <DeMoNSeEd> MrDade, try registering you nick then pm mw, one on one help might go easier to follow
[07:17] <alexicon> some_dude: you want /etc/resolv.conf
[07:17] <some_dude> yea, i don't have one
[07:17] <cwillu> WOLFdude: no point exposing the whole machine if you only have a couple (or one) services
[07:17] <some_dude> is there another file that ubuntu uses ?
[07:17] <alexicon> you can make one some_dude
[07:17] <tanlaan> anyone know how to use a shell script, which you need to cd to the folder its in to use it, on startup?
[07:17] <alexicon> just make up the file from scratch some_dude
[07:17] <cwillu> some_dude: there's something like nsswitch.conf I think
[07:17] <alexicon> ooh
[07:18] <cwillu> some_dude: what are you trying to do?
[07:19] <some_dude> set my nameserver
[07:19] <khnh> my laptop got an ethernet card and build-in wireless card but they are both eth0, how do you assign ethernet card to eth1
[07:19] <alexicon> you can still feel free to create a /etc/resolv.conf
[07:19] <cwillu> some_dude: should be able to do it from system|admin|networking too, unless you really wanna be in the conf files
[07:20] <cwillu> some_dude: "man resolv.conf" should give you the info you need
[07:20] <alexicon> khnh: use ifconfig
[07:20] <alexicon> check the man page
[07:20] <tanlaan> anyone know ...does anyone know how to use a shell script, which you need to cd to the folder its in to use it, on startup?
[07:20] <OrgulloKmoore> I hear no sound in youtube.com through flash but i hear sounds from other applications...advice?
[07:20] <alexicon> zomg helpin noobs is hard work! ^_^
[07:20] <cwillu> lol
[07:20] <some_dude> yea I added resolv.conf but I'm still not able to ping google
[07:20] <userundefine> totally
[07:20] <Cntryboy> ah well I don't understand that site toma sent me to
[07:20] <alexicon> you using dhcp some_dude?
[07:21] <some_dude> no
[07:21] <cwillu> some_dude: might have to ifdown eth0; ifup eth0
[07:21] <userundefine> OrgulloKmoore, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204022
[07:21] <Cntryboy> anyone understand what to do with: (WW) NVIDIA(0): No size information available in CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute
[07:21] <Cntryboy> (WW) NVIDIA(0):     DPI from EDID.
[07:21] <Cntryboy> (==) NVIDIA(0): DPI set to (75, 75); computed from built-in default
[07:21] <OrgulloKmoore> thanks, userundefine
[07:21] <dsas> tanlaan: Just put "cd <directory> && ./scriptname" as the startup command.
[07:21] <cwillu> Cntryboy: sounds like it's not detecting your monitor
[07:21] <tanlaan> dsas: THANK YOU :D
[07:21] <cwillu> but that's just a guess
[07:22] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Looks fine to me.
[07:22] <alexicon> some_dude: other things to check are iptables [might want to flush those] , ifconfig make sure everything is up
[07:22] <alexicon> can you ping your router?
[07:22] <dsas> tanlaan: No problem.
[07:22] <Cntryboy> cwillu: well my monitor goes to sleep after I start x with nvidia drivers, and i'm not sure what to do
[07:22] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Unless you want 96 DPI.
[07:22] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Ah, that's a different problem.
[07:22] <Axe> Yay ubuntu!
[07:22] <Axe> Wait
[07:22] <Axe> Why aren't there any ops
[07:22] <Axe> o.o
[07:22] <VoX> never are
[07:22] <Cntryboy> amaranth: I want it where when I start X I can get a visual. I can't with nvidia enabled I see nothing and monitor is sleeping and blinking
[07:22] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: You have the resolution and/or refresh rate set too high, the monitor goes to sleep so it won't blow up.
[07:22] <drgonzo> hello all
[07:22] <Axe> ftw is that
[07:22] <alexicon> egalitarian channel, i like it
[07:22] <some_dude> the computer is setup for dhcp, but here I have to manualy setup the ip, i can ping my nameserver, but it not resolving
[07:23] <Cntryboy> amaranth: how can I resolve this please? much info is appreciated.
[07:23] <drgonzo> Does anyone know of any full-text search engines that support pdf,djvu ?
[07:23] <some_dude> oh, i lie
[07:23] <alexicon> nrrr i had that issue for ages... dhcp seemed to sort it out though
[07:23] <Amaranth> !fixres
[07:23] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:23] <Cntryboy> amaranth: also I let it autodetect I don't set it to anything
[07:23] <cwillu> some_dude: you're such a liar :p
[07:23] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Check that out.
[07:23] <cwillu> Cntryboy: it just looks like the autodetect is bombing and taking a guess
[07:23] <some_dude> i got it, when I ifdown eth0  i erase my routing table
[07:23] <OrgulloKmoore> userundefine hey, that worked!
[07:24] <DaveyJ> i forgot how to unload the pl driver =/
[07:24] <OrgulloKmoore> awesome
[07:24] <userundefine> drgonzo, as far as I know google searches pdfs
[07:24] <userundefine> OrgulloKmoore, yep
[07:24] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: It's for a somewhat different problem but it should help.
[07:24] <OrgulloKmoore> I think I should leave a message "you've my savior!!!" like the rest did xD
[07:24] <franky123> i have a question. i've been messing with powernowd for a while now and i'm wondering how do i directly change the cpu frequency. powernowd does it automatically but is there somewhere like in /sys/.../cpufreq where i can see the current cpu freqeuency and change it myself?
[07:24] <OrgulloKmoore> you're**
[07:24] <Cntryboy> amaranth: ill try but im new to linux and never had this problem with my geforce 2 with legacy drivers, i now have a fx 5500 and everything went to crap
[07:24] <Cntryboy> cwillu: yah it looks that way, but it was fine with my geforce 2 lol
[07:24] <cwillu> Cntryboy: anyone else, what's the key to set a lower resolution in x?
[07:24] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Well, hang on.
[07:24] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Let's do something simple to start with.
[07:24] <cwillu> left_ctrl+left+alt+minus?
[07:25] <alexicon> lol thats quite a key combo
[07:25] <cwillu> left+alt=keft_alt
[07:25] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:25] <cwillu> left
[07:25] <varsendaggr> Cntryboy, hang in there there are lots of people to help you
[07:25] <cwillu> gah, can't type
[07:25] <Cntryboy> amaranth: ok
[07:25] <cwillu> ctrl+alt+minus, but the right mods probably won't work
[07:25] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Run that and see if it helps.
[07:25] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: You'll have to restart X if you're using it now.
[07:25] <Cntryboy> amaranth: okay will do, any chance in telling me what all tha tmeans so i can understand :)
[07:26] <Cntryboy> amaranth: yes Im going to change nv back to nvidia, then do what u said and restart x
[07:26] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Well, first we're setting your xorg.conf back to what it would be at install time, then we're enabling the nvidia driver
[07:26] <cwillu> /afk tim horton's run
[07:26] <cwillu> bah, stupid wow finger memory
[07:26] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: No need to manually mess with xorg.conf at this point, the command I gave you wipes it out anyway.
[07:26] <alexicon> lol cwillu
[07:26] <Cntryboy> amaranth: okay let me write that down and then try it
[07:27] <franky123> uhh, can anyone tell me, if i have the cpufreq mod installed where i can view and change the current cpu frequency?
[07:27] <xenex> Anyone want to help me with this problem? http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6320/guildwars9um.png I have nvidia-glx installed and when I change "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg config, it causes X to crash when it is trying to start on the booting process.
[07:27] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Are you running in X right now?
[07:27] <benplaut_win> 2 issues. First, dbus isn't starting at boot, i have to start it manually.  Second, i'm getting the dreaded bars coming out of suspend -- standard (repo) nvidia drivers, MX420
[07:27] <alexicon> speaking of wow finger, anyone watched the new purepwnage X-D
[07:27] <DianWei_> Ok Question... this is the first time I have tried this in Dapper, but why is evince not allowing me to print to a pdf file using a ps made with the print command in firefox?
[07:27] <Cntryboy> amaranth: yes im running X under nv settings
[07:27] <Cntryboy> amaranth: i can't use X under nvidia settings though, thats when I get the problem
[07:27] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: No need to write it down then, unless you want it for future reference.
[07:28] <drgonzo> userundefine: I've already got a database of the journal entry's in mysql. That correspondes to the name and location plus extra info on each journal. I would like to incorporate full-text search capabilities so It doesn't just search title and the info in my mysql database but the pdf/djvu as well.
[07:28] <some_dude> where can i get rdesktop ?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> amaranth: future ref.
[07:28] <Cntryboy> amaranth okay typing it now
[07:28] <drgonzo> the best options you suggest in google?
[07:28] <Amaranth> some_dude: Applications->Internet->Terminal Server Client
[07:28] <Cntryboy> amaranth: okay i typed it in, now what restart X?
[07:28] <some_dude> i need to download and install it, but it says there is no package
[07:29] <Cntryboy> amaranth: or do u want me to change nv to nvidia first?
[07:29] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Yep. Either 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart' or ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:29] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: We just changed nv to nvidia
[07:29] <Cntryboy> oh ok
[07:29] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: That's part of what that command did.
[07:29] <Cntryboy> okay here we go
[07:29] <xenex> Anyone want to help me with this problem? http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6320/guildwars9um.png I have nvidia-glx installed and when I change "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg config, it causes X to crash when it is trying to start on the booting process.
[07:29] <Cntryboy> wish me luck, if im not back im reconfig xserver with nv hehe
[07:29] <Cntryboy> here we go
[07:29] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Good luck. :)
[07:29] <Cntryboy> ty
[07:30] <Amaranth> xenex: Well, that error is because you aren't using the nvidia driver.
[07:30] <grphx> How do I extract a .tgz file?
[07:30] <xenex> Amaranth, how would I make it use the driver?
[07:30] <Amaranth> grphx: Double click on it.
[07:30] <alexicon> grphx: gunzip
[07:30] <Amaranth> xenex: Change "nv" to "nvidia" in xorg.conf
[07:30] <alexicon> grphx: then probably tar xvf filename
[07:30] <xenex> Amaranth, read my whole message.
[07:30] <Amaranth> xenex: I did. :P
[07:30] <xenex> I have nvidia-glx installed and when I change "nv" to "nvidia" in my xorg config, it causes X to crash when it is trying to start on the booting process.
[07:31] <alexicon> grphx: or get something like file-roller if youre more comfy with a gui
[07:31] <Amaranth> xenex: We don't know why it crashes though, do you have the log file?
[07:31] <xenex> Amaranth, I don't know.
[07:31] <Amaranth> xenex: Ok, let's try some things.
[07:31] <Amaranth> xenex: You know how to change "nvidia" back to "nv" from a terminal if X won't start?
[07:31] <Cornellius> xenex: Start it in a terminal and read what's the terminal's telling you.
[07:31] <Catboy85> Hi I'm new to linux na dwould like to make the switch from windows
[07:31] <alexicon> hi Catboy85
[07:31] <Amaranth> Cornellius: You can't start X in a terminal. :P
[07:31] <Paladine> hey I found a safe way to run windows OS
[07:31] <xenex> Amaranth, last time I had to run a LiveCD and log into root with the help of you guys :P
[07:32] <Amaranth> Cornellius: Well, not easily anyway.
[07:32] <alexicon> Paladine: vmware ?
[07:32] <Paladine> alex, yeah hehehe
[07:32] <alexicon> keke
[07:32] <Catboy85> but I cant get online
[07:32] <alexicon> too bad cant play games in it D:
[07:32] <Cornellius> Amaranth: I mean start Guild Wars in a terminal :P
[07:32] <n0ctuRnaL-fieNd> how do i check cpu info ?
[07:32] <sysdoc> Catboy85, good welcome to the revolution, lol
[07:32] <Amaranth> Cornellius: It's running in WINE from the look of it.
[07:32] <alexicon> Catboy85: whats the error youre getting
[07:32] <Paladine> I dun wanna play gamesin it
[07:32] <Amaranth> Cornellius: So it probably won't work anyway.
[07:32] <xenex> Amaranth, It's Cedega
[07:32] <Paladine> the only games I play I use cedega for
[07:32] <dsas> n0ctuRnaL-fieNd: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:32] <alexicon> heh ive got cedega
[07:32] <alexicon> but its still got gaps
[07:32] <alexicon> and for silly little games too :P
[07:32] <blocky> Catboy85, are you dual booting or on another computer
[07:33] <protocol1> cedega is good
[07:33] <alexicon> godbless cedega for wow tho :P'''
[07:33] <Amaranth> xenex: Ok, I guess we can do that if needed. First, do you have a LiveCD handy?
[07:33] <protocol1> i play HL and CS on it
[07:33] <xenex> Amaranth, Yup
[07:33] <Catboy85> I have a winmodem and hear they can be "difficult"
[07:33] <alexicon> modem D:
[07:33] <alexicon> oh noes!!!
[07:33] <alexicon> gl with that winmodem :(
[07:33] <Amaranth> xenex: Ok, open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and run this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg && sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:34] <DaveyJ> how do you unload the PL driver?
[07:34] <alexicon> i hear you can buy non winmodems, but itll cost ya
[07:34] <alexicon> best get ethernet :P
[07:34] <DaveyJ> for the parallel port
[07:34] <sysdoc> Catboy85, hit the wiki there is info on how to get that working
[07:34] <Amaranth> alexicon: A real modem costs $60 or so.
[07:34] <xenex> Amaranth, is that one whole line?
[07:34] <Amaranth> xenex: Yep.
[07:34] <Cornellius> alexicon: Wow ! Buying things cost money now ?
[07:34] <Catboy85> what should i be looking for
[07:34] <sysdoc> lol $60?/ where do you live?
[07:34] <alexicon> Cornellius: buying a non winmodem costs more than a win modem
[07:34] <xenex> Amaranth, alright what now?
[07:34] <Cornellius> alexicon: :)
[07:35] <Amaranth> sysdoc: How much does a real modem cost for you?
[07:35] <alexicon> anyway ive gotta pinch my pennies :P
[07:35] <sysdoc> $20
[07:35] <alexicon> yeah i think it was about $25 when i was lookin 4 years ago
[07:35] <Cntryboy> Nope same thing :(
[07:35] <Lynoure> _real_ modems are given out for free. How many bauds you need? :)
[07:35] <alexicon> lol
[07:35] <alexicon> i'll take a free modem!
[07:35] <sysdoc> Lynoure, lol really
[07:35] <Amaranth> xenex: Ok, now hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace. This will kill the X server and restart it. Make sure you save anything you might have open first.
[07:35] <Catboy85> same here
[07:35] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: No clue then, I guess follow the wiki.
[07:35] <Lynoure> alexicon: you can pick it up from Helsinki, Finland :)
[07:35] <Amaranth> !fixres > Cntryboy
[07:36] <Cntryboy> :(
[07:36] <Cntryboy> ok
[07:36] <alexicon> haha
[07:36] <xenex> Amaranth, and if X doesn't start up again?
[07:36] <will_> I have a quick question
[07:36] <Cntryboy> not sure why this is doing this, when my geforce 2 and legacy drivers worked fine
[07:36] <keenz> ladies and gentlemen, any quick patch to get orinoco drivers into monitor mode for dapper?
[07:36] <Amaranth> xenex: I guess I'll see you soon from a LiveCD? :)
[07:36] <xenex> Amaranth, haha alright but it's going to crash again. I know it. ;[
[07:36] <alexicon> i'll get someone to pick it up for me. can you send it to turku Lynoure :P
[07:36] <will_> What is the GUI in Ubuntu^ Like I have downloaded other THEMES before but some one here helped me out
[07:36] <Cntryboy> amaranth: since I switched video cards is this why im having so much problem out of my monitor now?
[07:36] <xenex> Here i go
[07:36] <Amaranth> keenz: Dunno.
[07:36] <will_> MY ubuntu is running laggy and I want a symplistic gui
[07:36] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Did you uninstall nvidia-glx-legacy?
[07:37] <qwe> will_: try fluxbox
[07:37] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: You might be using the old drivers.
[07:37] <keenz> :D
[07:37] <Cntryboy> amaranth: only with my geforce 2 card...
[07:37] <will_> Yeah thats the one :D
[07:37] <alexicon> will_: get fluxbox or xfce [if youre happy iwth the current gui but want lighter] 
[07:37] <Cntryboy> amaranth: i have fx5500 now as of today
[07:37] <Catboy85> I realy hope to get this working since I downloaded ubuntu on a dial-up
[07:37] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: No no, did you _uninstall_ them?
[07:37] <chrono13> I have a question. I have, a couple of times, installed the nvida drivers and changed xorg.conf to load "nvidia" instead of "nv". Now, going with 686 - things get trickier. I make sure to apt 686 restricted matching my kernel number, but x fails to load (unable to find driver). Is there a step I'm missing?
[07:37] <alexicon> 650mb on dialup!! thats some dedication Catboy85!
[07:37] <foxiness> am new to dsl world, and i want to ask about best modem here?\
[07:37] <will_> But like, what is FLUXBOX. Like when I google new GUI's is that what they go by? Or is there a cool linux title these GUIS go by?
[07:38] <Cntryboy> amaranth: I installed nvidia-glx, but yes I have tried the legacy drivers and it actually works, but its slower fps than what I should be getting. Thats why I want to get it working with nvidia-glx
[07:38] <alexicon> fluxbox is a window manager
[07:38] <Amaranth> Wow everyone is having problems with nvidia!
[07:38] <alexicon> will_: you can make linux look like just about anything
[07:38] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, didn't read the link I gave you earlier?
[07:38] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: sorry bro, what link
[07:38] <sysdoc> lol
[07:38] <Catboy85> it only took me two weeks
[07:38] <Aviatrixie> re's
[07:38] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: I would just use the legacy drivers for now, it's certainly better than software rendering. :P
[07:38] <qwe> I'm having some weird apache issues with ubuntu server. as soon as I hit my wordpress blog the CPU usage jumps to 100% and nothing happens for about 20 seconds. then the page loads and cpu usage drops back down
[07:38] <chrono13> Let me try one more thing before I give up (for now) and go back to 386
[07:38] <will_> So GUI is just GUI. There is no special term or anyhting like that in the linux world^
[07:38] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: my mind is boggled, I'm not seeing too much right now except tears lol
[07:38] <will_> Like in terms of things like fluxbox etc
[07:39] <will_> Or are they called WINDOWS MANAGERS
[07:39] <Amaranth> will_: Desktop Environment (XFCE, KDE, GNOME) and Window Manager (fluxbox, openbox, ion3, etc)
[07:39] <Lord-ChewY> im trying to compile a gtk prog in anjuta
[07:39] <Cntryboy> amaranth: im the type that will rather have something broken, and try and try and try to find a solution b4 I give up
[07:39] <Lord-ChewY> i get an error gtk.h not found
[07:39] <blocky> will_, graphical interfaces in linux are built on top of a text-only interface, so the graphical ones can be easily swapped out for others
[07:39] <will_> Ah cool thank you so much guys!!!!!!!
[07:39] <Lord-ChewY> any ideas? i have the package with gtk.h installed
[07:39] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, one more time http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[07:39] <Amaranth> Lord-ChewY: Install libgtk2.0-dev
[07:39] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, stop the search and read!
[07:39] <foxiness> how will speedtouch modem work with ubuntu?
[07:39] <will_> so to get flux box I would just atp get fluxbox^
[07:39] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: okay let me look
[07:40] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, don't look do!!
[07:40] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: I have been, and found nothing lol, but ill read it give me a sec
[07:40] <protocol1> yo
[07:40] <Lord-ChewY> Amaranth: i have that package installed
[07:40] <Amaranth> Lord-ChewY: Otherwise look for an anjuta support channel, I guess. I don't think anyone here will know how to use it.
[07:40] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, why suffer just because you know how?
[07:40] <blocky> will_, yep, but you have to use apt instead of atp
[07:40] <alexicon> hehe
[07:41] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, use method 2
[07:41] <cwillu> will_: there's things like gnome (ubuntu default), kde (kubuntu), windowmaker (xubuntu), and a few hundred others
[07:41] <chrono13> will - if you see "Windows Manager" or "Desktop Environment" they are referring to Linux GUI's. They are different things, but both are GUI, point and click pretty desktops : )
[07:41] <cwillu> will_: they all have various ways of skinning (or lack thereof, for performence, etc)
[07:41] <Aviatrixie> what came first... fluxbox or xfce? They look the same to me.
[07:41] <cwillu> oops, xubuntu is xfce, isn't it
[07:41] <chrono13> flux I would imagine.
[07:42] <alexicon> xubuntu is windowmaker!?
[07:42] <alexicon> i thought it was xfce :P
[07:42] <chrono13> xubuntu is XFCE
[07:42] <alexicon> ah well
[07:42] <Aviatrixie> I know flux is supposedly lighter
[07:42] <chrono13> Wha?
[07:42] <blocky> fluxbox is quite nice
[07:42] <alexicon> flux is brilliant
[07:42] <alexicon> used that for years
[07:42] <chrono13> I love Flux on Damn Small Linux
[07:42] <qwe> the newest fluxbox is really nice
[07:42] <blocky> i've switched to enlightenment tho
[07:42] <Aviatrixie> I have Xubuntu... but like playing round with DamnSmall.
[07:42] <alexicon> they brough back the tabs right???
[07:42] <qwe> it's into the 1.0RC stage now
[07:42] <Aviatrixie> Looks the same to me
[07:42] <alexicon> like the physical tab
[07:42] <will_> Thanks for the help
[07:42] <will_> I have one more question
[07:42] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: no I haven't tried method 2, now will I be doing a lot of downloading? I have dialup 2.1KB
[07:42] <darkyoshi372> Guys, I forgot how to choose what apps load at login. Could I have a quick reminder?
[07:42] <DaveyJ> how do you unload the PL driver so i can use parport0 in VMWare?
[07:43] <alexicon> i tried a dev version and got the tabs, but then transparency got messed up
[07:43] <will_> I need something to write music on
[07:43] <cwillu> darkyoshi372: sessions
[07:43] <alexicon> rosegarden will_
[07:43] <qwe> yeah
[07:43] <qwe> rosegarden rocks
[07:43] <DaveyJ> darkyoshi372: System -> Preferences -> Sessions
[07:43] <qwe> although I've had latency issues with ubuntu and rosegarden
[07:43] <will_> Yeah I tried to instal rosegarden but it's really hard to install
[07:43] <chrono13> Yea... that's what I thought... Xubuntu is XFCE4
[07:43] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, sorry about that but at least that works..
[07:43] <will_> I'm missing QT
[07:43] <darkyoshi372> cwillu and DaveyJ: Thank you both most kindly!
[07:43] <qwe> will_: make sure you install rosegarden4
[07:43] <DaveyJ> =] 
[07:43] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, there is no shortcut
[07:43] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: well let me try all this brb
[07:44] <will_> I'll tell you the error in a sec
[07:44] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, don't come back till it is working, lol!! jk
[07:44] <Aviatrixie> x/k/ubuntu has latency probs
[07:44] <alexicon> yeah youll have to get qt will_ probably best to do it in synaptic...
[07:44] <chrono13> Ah, such a simple thing I overlooked. Nevermind my earlier question.
[07:44] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: yah but ive only had linux little over a week, im still noober to it, but granted I am learning some what
[07:44] <alexicon> rosegarden is a huge resource hog tho :/ hope you got lots of memory
[07:45] <will_> Checking for kde-config           :  kde-config was found as /usr/bin/kde-config
[07:45] <will_> Checking for kde version          :  3.4.3
[07:45] <will_> Checking for the qt library       :  qt was not found
[07:45] <will_> Please set QTDIR first (/usr/lib/qt3?) or try scons -h for more options
[07:45] <will_> will@nututbuntuutbuntu:~/rosegarden-4-1.2.3$
[07:45] <will_> Thats what I get
[07:45] <Aviatrixie> I found a group that's trying to fix the daw issue
[07:45] <qwe> will_: apt-get install rosegarden4
[07:45] <alexicon> ehhh youve got kde, but not qt?? >_>
[07:45] <will_> synaptic?
[07:45] <will_> k :D
[07:45] <alexicon> nm will_ listen to qwe heh
[07:45] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, I was there once, trust me, it is worth the journey!!!
[07:46] <will_> I think it's working
[07:46] <will_> !
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about !
[07:46] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, u'll learn more about computing than you really ever wanted
[07:46] <will_> Man thanks a lot guys! This is a great help!
[07:46] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: lol
[07:46] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, and that is a GOOD thing!
[07:46] <Aviatrixie> anyone here using Ardour?
[07:46] <will_> Dumb question, how do I make desktop shortcuts to the installed programs?
[07:46] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, go forth and sin no more!
[07:46] <sysdoc> lol
[07:46] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: so is method 2 actually compiling the kernel?
[07:46] <sysdoc> No
[07:47] <will_> I downloaded adour but I couldn't get it to run. Looks good!
[07:47] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: okay just checking
[07:47] <Ademan> hey do BIOS have usb capabilities?
[07:47] <qwe> I couldn't get the hang of ardour's gui
[07:47] <sysdoc> Just do EXACTLY what is says
[07:47] <paul__> Im having trouble with gnome panel quitting error when I use the run application command line. Anybody know if there is a fix for this?
[07:47] <Aviatrixie> it's good... doesn't work well on ubuntu, will
[07:47] <Aviatrixie> latency
[07:47] <Cornellius> ardour ?
[07:47] <qwe> I couldn't even get rosegarden to work well on ubuntu
[07:47] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, I dunno about the script that it has, so I'd skip it
[07:47] <Aviatrixie> yes, Cornellius
[07:47] <qwe> huge latency issues on a brand-new p4
[07:48] <alexicon> get jack
[07:48] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: dling the 12.8 installer as we speak
[07:48] <Cntryboy> hour to dl it lol
[07:48] <alexicon> will_: its worth looking into something called jack later. can take a while to configure but its great if you need to do a lot of real time sound
[07:48] <Cornellius> Rosegarden worked for me, but verrrrrry slowly
[07:48] <chrono13> I'm learning too. I started with Knoppix, Damn Small, etc. When I made the switch, I made sure to do it the hard way - dapper alpha's + XGL = not-so-stable X. And I've made sure to do several installs - going crazy with options, programs, configs and tweaks before each install (experiment, then re-install). Started with Flight 5 and 6. Now here I am, upgraded my kernel, matching nvidia drivers to it, running ssh so I can access it
[07:48] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, Go the long way, you'll learn a lil
[07:48] <Aviatrixie> jack is nessessary for any linux daw
[07:49] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: so basically im downloading and installing the driver directly from nvidia instead of using ubuntu installer of nvidia right?
[07:49] <merc> so my laptop battery ran out, and the computer shut off unexpectedly, now, X wont start, it says all sorts of modules aren't found, like the kb module, etc, im assuming i just need to force an fsck?  how do i reboot and force it to check the disk on boot?
[07:49] <qwe> alexicon: how well does jack improve latencies for soft synths like fluidsynth and timidity?
[07:49] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, is that what it says to do?
[07:49] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: I need a joint, my mind is boggled lol
[07:49] <sysdoc> LMAO!
[07:49] <sysdoc> DOPER!
[07:49] <Aviatrixie> When I first came to linux looking for an alternative daw I didn't know jack!  LOL
[07:49] <alexicon> qwe if youre using all those apps its definately worth getting jack
[07:50] <Cntryboy> Yah, but i'm not totally ignorant. Just to linux I am
[07:50] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, if ya light up, then print it out first
[07:50] <qwe> alexicon: ok. last time I tried it it was just a pain to set up
[07:50] <Cornellius> Note Edit can do some midis
[07:50] <chrono13> Grep is very nice. Piping is awesome, and I'm getting so comfortable with the command line that I copy, remove, find, and edit (vim) files with ease and without having to think twice. One thing I did do however was buy a copy ($10 new) of O'Reilly's Linux Pocket Guide
[07:50] <Amaranth> Cntryboy: Please don't discuss illegal activities here.
[07:50] <alexicon> lol qwe its still a pain to set up
[07:50] <Cornellius> It's not amazing but it's nice nonetheless
[07:50] <alexicon> but its worth the fight
[07:50] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, ya might be at it a while, lol
[07:50] <qwe> alexicon: but if it's worth it... :)
[07:50] <qwe> ok
[07:50] <xenex> Amaranth: crashed :\
[07:50] <alexicon> yeah definately worth it :)
[07:50] <Aesop> ubotu: tell aesop about samba
[07:50] <Amaranth> xenex: Ouch.
[07:50] <alexicon> ok folks my eyes are hurting time for sleeps!
[07:50] <xenex> Amaranth: any ideas?
[07:50] <Amaranth> xenex: On the LiveCD now?
[07:50] <Aesop> Orrr not...
[07:51] <xenex> Amaranth: yup, livecd using irssi
[07:51] <Aviatrixie> I just bought O'Reilly's Ubuntu Hacks... has some nice ideas
[07:51] <Cntryboy> amaranth: I could have been talking about tobacco :)
[07:51] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, just stay away from the mushrooms ubder those paddies, lol
[07:51] <merc> you could also be in a country where it's legal...
[07:51] <Amaranth> xenex: Nope, I don't waste my life debugging non-free drivers.
[07:51] <Aesop> Ok, anyone know how to let a windows comp access the samba server? when accessing from windows it asks for a password
[07:51] <xenex> Amaranth: ok so how do i fix it?
[07:51] <malv> anyone know how to do a grep and replace?
[07:52] <Amaranth> xenex: Ok, restart and boot in recovery mode. From there run 'vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[07:52] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: yah Ive tried them in hs, and well mmm lol.
[07:52] <Amaranth> xenex: Do you know what to change in that file?
[07:52] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, lol
[07:52] <cavediver_work> Hi there. I have a cacti crontab thing that runs as www-data every 5 mins. And everytime it gets logged in auth.log (su). It fills my log and make it hard to browse. Any solution ?
[07:52] <xenex> Amaranth: yes but how do i boot into recovery mode?
[07:52] <chrono13> O'Reilly's Pocket Linux Guide is like the top CLI actions, the most useful arguments for them, written very easy to understand (with examples). It is like a compact, easy to read man file all in one very handy book.
[07:52] <sysdoc> Cntryboy, you have your nick registered?
[07:52] <Amaranth> xenex: From the grub boot menu, you might have to hit esc when it says to pull it up
[07:53] <xenex> Amaranth: alright i will try that now. be back.
[07:53] <benplaut_win> does suspend work on standard nvidia (open source 2d) drivers? i'm having a helluva time getting anything to work
[07:53] <RancidLM> is thier a way to record the /dev/dsp  ?
[07:53] <grphx> How can I search through a certain directory, and look for a certain string of text in the files?
[07:53] <Amaranth> benplaut_win: I believe so but I've never tested it.
[07:53] <will_> Ah man rosegarden didn't boot up
[07:53] <grphx> Isn't it like grep or osmething>?
[07:53] <crimsun> RancidLM: sure, use audacity
[07:53] <will_> The Rosegarden sequencer could not be started, so sound and recording will be unavailable for this session.
[07:53] <Aviatrixie> chrono... I have Linux pocket guide for dummys  ;)
[07:53] <Cornellius> Amaranth: You dual-boot with Windows ?
[07:53] <chrono13> lol
[07:54] <Amaranth> Cornellius: On rare occasions, yeah.
[07:54] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: did u get my notice
[07:54] <RancidLM> crimsun: that would be great  the only problem is i wanna do skype at the same time for a podcast.. but audacity says its in use.. thiers no passive way around maybe?
[07:54] <Cornellius> Amaranth: Just installed CaptiveNTFS, awesome way to read/write on ntfs partitions.
[07:54] <Cntryboy> yah
[07:54] <chrono13> standard vim commands are just about a must have for x-breakers ;)
[07:54] <Amaranth> Cornellius: Yeah, I've got it too.
[07:55] <crimsun> RancidLM: well, a new version of Skype supports ALSA, so you can skip Audacity entirely.
[07:55] <Aviatrixie> I'm pissed... automatix doesn't configure midi in dapper yet. I just upgraded... guess I'm going to have to figure it out manually
[07:55] <Cornellius> Aviatrixie: No to automatix
[07:55] <Madpilot> Aviatrixie, be glad automatix didn't just break everything for you...
[07:55] <Cornellius> It have force write feartures
[07:55] <RancidLM> crimsun: i just upgraded to the beta version .. do u know how to record alsa?
[07:55] <Aviatrixie> madpilot... you fly?
[07:55] <Cornellius> Aviatrixie: EasyUbuntu for the win. #easyubuntu
[07:55] <chrono13> automatix borked one of my installs. It was fun trying to fix it all - once I got just about everything fixed, I re-installed just for good measure.
[07:55] <Madpilot> Aviatrixie, I do - I think I've seen you here before, too
[07:56] <Aviatrixie> I think so too, Madpilot
[07:56] <crimsun> RancidLM: just configure 'Capture' (unmute, set to non-zero level), and set the appropriate element to be recorded ("captured")
[07:56] <grphx> Is there a way to make grep search a whole directory?
[07:56] <Aviatrixie> EasyUbuntu looks like a good prog, Cornellius
[07:56] <Amaranth> Aviatrixie: Please join #automatix for discussion of that software.
[07:56] <crimsun> grphx: sure, just use '*'
[07:56] <dli> grphx, grep foo *
[07:57] <DaveyJ> :(
[07:57] <DaveyJ> how do you unload the PL driver so i can use parport0 in VMWare?
[07:57] <chrono13> I'm trying to learn as much as I can so that if anything breaks, needs configured or such, I can relatively easily take care of it quickly. Perhaps in a few months might convert a few family members : )
[07:57] <Aviatrixie> Maybe I'll try it
[07:57] <grphx> Do that while in the folder?
[07:57] <crimsun> grphx: or pass the path explicitly
[07:57] <Amaranth> DaveyJ: sudo modprobe -r <driver module name>
[07:57] <crimsun> grphx: if you want it recursed, use grep -r
[07:57] <chrono13> It would sure be easier as the family tech guy SSH'ing into their box, or better yet - not having to admin them so much because it is much harder to break.
[07:57] <Aviatrixie> But... I've used Automatix on to clean installs now... no probs
[07:57] <grphx> recursed?
[07:57] <DaveyJ> ah yes thank you!
[07:57] <Aviatrixie> oops... to=two
[07:58] <Amaranth> chrono13: Setup a VNC server of some sort.
[07:58] <Timir> Hey, anyone in here happen to know if it's possible with a modem that has both USB and Ethernet plugs, that if I could have it running off Ethernet AND USB?
[07:58] <crimsun> grphx: to search "inside folders" or subdirectories
[07:58] <Amaranth> chrono13: Then you can remote admin with a GUI.
[07:58] <RancidLM> crimsun: using audacity?
[07:58] <Cornellius> Aviatrixie: http://nalioth.hostdestroyer.com/comparison.html
[07:58] <Amaranth> Timir: Depends on the modem. I have two Surfboard modems and one can do that and the other can't.
[07:59] <crimsun> RancidLM: no, use sound recorder or arecord or whatever
[07:59] <Aviatrixie> everyone badmouths Automatix...but it has worked flawlessly for me... and if it breaks my install... oops, time to reinstall
[07:59] <chrono13> Ah Amaranth - haven't even gotten that far yet. That is going to be great. I've heard the remote GUI is very fast (compared to the various VNCs).
[07:59] <Timir> Amaranth, How hard would it be to get Mandrake 10.1 to use USB you think? It's already using my USB keyboard, but is USB really universal enough to automatically go "This isn't a keyboard or mouse, it's a Modem connected to the internet"?
[07:59] <dsas> Aviatrixie: Reinstalling is dirty.
[07:59] <crimsun> Aviatrixie: bad reputations are difficult to disspell
[08:00] <crimsun> dispell, rather
[08:00] <crimsun> argh
[08:00] <Disorganized> lo
[08:00] <Disorganized> )
[08:00] <Amaranth> Timir: Eh? I thought you wanted to run two computers off one modem.
[08:00] <PORDO> beos LIVES http://os.newsforge.com/os/06/05/30/178223.shtml?tid=16
[08:00] <Amaranth> Timir: USB modem support in Linux is, well, not very good.
[08:00] <Amaranth> Timir: And this is #ubuntu, not #mandrake. :)
[08:00] <Aviatrixie> Cornellius... reading your link now... ty
[08:01] <Amaranth> PORDO: Thanks for the spam.
[08:01] <RancidLM> crimsun: skype doesn't work then
[08:01] <Timir> Amaranth, You mean there -Is- a Mandrake channel? o_o;;
[08:02] <crimsun> RancidLM: what device is skype using, hw:foo or "default"?
[08:02] <Amaranth> Timir: Probably. :)
[08:02] <Cornellius> ewww Madrake
[08:02] <Cornellius> and Lindspire
[08:03] <Cornellius> *Linspire
[08:03] <cwillu> regarding mounting smbfs:  how can I force linux to not cache the mount?
[08:03] <cwillu> cifs mounted with 'directio' works as far as file data is concerned, but crashes my app in other locations
[08:03] <chrono13> Automatix... a great idea... but avoiding it (after it hosed me) I can now get all restricted formats up and running, configure keyboard shortcuts on my own (that's easy) and do almost everything else Automatix does, easily and quickly. There are only two disadvantages 1) requires a small bit of learning and patience and 2) takes slightly longer (download times are still the same, which accounts for most of the time involved). Two
[08:03] <chrono13> Then again - if it works it works. I hope it never doesn't work for you. Consider sometime using EasyUbuntu and manually do anything else you need. My 2 cents.
[08:04] <cwillu> and disabling oplocks doesn't help
[08:04] <xenex> Amaranth, I couldn't figure out how to save it. :P
[08:04] <RancidLM> crimsun: i don't know where to find that information in skype the only option i have is adio system/ and call device.. sblive...
[08:04] <xenex> Amaranth, but I got it.
[08:04] <Aviatrixie> now... I'm a relative newby to Linux (11/05) but I'm starting to sort it all out. Isn't the "force" issue no longer an issue in automatix? I thought I'd read they changed that problem?
[08:04] <Amaranth> xenex: Oops, that's <esc>:wq
[08:04] <crimsun> RancidLM: which sblive?
[08:04] <nalioth> Aviatrixie: please join #easyubuntu
[08:04] <Amaranth> xenex: hehe, i forgot most people don't know vim commands
[08:04] <xenex> Amaranth: yeah I went on my other computer and googled the commands
[08:04] <PORDO> Amaranth hey, you love beos.  i know for a fact...
[08:04] <chrono13> Aviatrixie - he removed force and replaced it with "If yes or no - answer yes and do it silently" - so no... it is still force.
[08:04] <RancidLM> crimsun: live value
[08:05] <crimsun> RancidLM: cat /proc/asound/modules
[08:05] <xenex> Amaranth: so you don't have any other ideas?
[08:05] <Amaranth> PORDO: Please stop promoting BeOS in an Ubuntu channel.
[08:05] <chrono13> He actually worked around force, still keeping it forceful. So he tried to duck the bad issue by hiding it.
[08:05] <cwillu> lol
[08:05] <Amaranth> xenex: Nope, sorry.
[08:05] <crimsun> RancidLM: you shouldn't have any problems if you're using a genuine live
[08:05] <will_> How do I make shortcuts to my apps that I apt-gatted ^
[08:05] <will_> ^ is a question mark sorry,
[08:05] <Aviatrixie> I do know I did a clean install of Dapper today and found the whole Automatix thing a LOT more complicated than it was last november
[08:05] <cwillu> will_:  most apps should make shortcuts automatically in the menus (which you should be able to drag to the desktop)
[08:06] <Amaranth> chrono13: Please end this discussion. If you want to talk about automatix join #automatix.
[08:06] <nnx> How do I upgrade from Breezy to Dapper using the DVD?
[08:06] <Amaranth> nnx: When you put in the DVD it should say something.
[08:06] <nalioth> Aviatrixie: we can answer your questions in #easyubuntu
[08:06] <chrono13> Automaix is a *fantastic* idea, but it definitely needs some improvement. Most notiablly is that it needs to stop avoiding all safeguards built into Ubuntu and Linux.
[08:06] <cwillu> will_: those that don't, you need to figure out how to launch them from the terminal (the name of the app is usually a good start), and then make a new menu entry using that command
[08:06] <Amaranth> nnx: A little dialog should come up.
[08:06] <Amaranth> chrono13: Last warning.
[08:06] <cwillu> will_: alacarte will help you do that (menu editor)
[08:06] <nnx> Alright.  I'll give it a shot.
[08:06] <nalioth> chrono13: #ubuntu-offtopic please or #easyubuntu or #automatix
[08:07] <will_> Ah man thank you so much!!!
[08:07] <will_> It worked!
[08:07] <Cornellius> Aviatrixie: #easyubuntu If you need more information or help.
[08:07] <will_> Man you guys rock!
[08:07] <Aviatrixie> I have looked at easyubuntu... I'd like to give it a shot
[08:07] <chrono13> Sorry, I didn't see Amaranth ask me.
[08:07] <Aviatrixie> Like I said, I'm really into learning about all of this linux stuff
[08:07] <will_> Another question, what is the JACK install name?
[08:07] <will_> So I can Apt-get it
[08:07] <Aviatrixie> Oh... I've done some manual installing too
[08:07] <crimsun> will_: jackd
[08:07] <cwillu> will_: launch synaptic, and search for it
[08:08] <will_> Whats synaptic?
[08:08] <grphx> *sigh*
[08:08] <will_> Thanks crimsun!
[08:08] <grphx> I can't get this permission thing down.
[08:08] <cwillu> will_: package manager, in system | adnub
[08:08] <cwillu> admin even
[08:08] <Amaranth> Aviatrixie: You may be more interested in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation then.
[08:08] <grphx> I have a user named "mud"
[08:08] <RancidLM> crimsun: ya no idea.. this is strange
[08:08] <nnx> Amaranth: All that came up was the Gnome file browser.
[08:08] <grphx> And I want to be able to change it, but my name isn't mud, it's something else
[08:08] <Amaranth> Aviatrixie: If you want to learn how to do things manually.
[08:08] <Aviatrixie> Sometimes it all just gets so confusing
[08:09] <crimsun> RancidLM: what's the output from the cat command I gave you?
[08:09] <Amaranth> nnx: Ok. Open Synaptic (System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager)
[08:09] <will_> Oh cool thanks!
[08:09] <nnx> OK
[08:09] <nnx> I'm there.
[08:09] <grphx> Is there a way to change a directory to be pubic so any user can change stuff in it?
[08:09] <Amaranth> nnx: Settings->Repositories, click the Add CDROM button
[08:09] <RancidLM> crimsun: 0 snd_emu10k1
[08:10] <crimsun> RancidLM: yeah, you shouldn't have problems at all
[08:10] <Aviatrixie> I just did my clean install upgrade to dapper today. It's working great. I haven't added anything yet... well, except irc.
[08:10] <nnx> Amaranth: Done.
[08:10] <crimsun> RancidLM: you can play multiple sounds simultaneously, correct?
[08:10] <Amaranth> nnx: Click the reload button in synaptic.
[08:10] <nalioth> Aviatrixie: education takes time
[08:10] <Amaranth> nnx: You should now have a bunch of upgrades to install.
[08:10] <grphx> Is there a way to make a certain folder and it's content public to all users to change/delete?
[08:10] <RancidLM> yup
[08:11] <cwillu> grphx: chmod O+RWX file/folder name
[08:11] <ardchoille> brb
[08:11] <RancidLM> crimsun: yup
[08:11] <crimsun> RancidLM: sounds like a Skype bug, then. Have you checked their user forum?
[08:11] <cwillu> grphx: will add read write and execute to anybody who isn't in the listed group or owner
[08:11] <Amaranth> cwillu: sticky bit?
[08:11] <Aviatrixie> I went to do automatix... and now it wants me to do things in my text editor to change my etc/ stuff. I was just getting used to terminal and they throw THAT at me?!!!
[08:11] <Aviatrixie> geez...
[08:11] <Aviatrixie> LOL
[08:11] <nalioth> Aviatrixie: please join #easyubuntu
[08:11] <cwillu> Amaranth: not neccessarily
[08:12] <Amaranth> cwillu: He wants the contents to be changable by all too, which means if User A creates something User B should be able to delete it.
[08:12] <grphx> That didn't work
[08:12] <Amaranth> cwillu: I believe that requires the sticky bit to be on but I can't remember how to do it. :)
[08:12] <RancidLM> crimsun:  no i haven't im gonna check here.. the command i tried was arecord test.wav
[08:12] <Aviatrixie> ok, nalioth
[08:12] <nnx> Amaranth: Alright.  It doesn't /say/ anything about upgrades.  Should I push the 'mark all upgrades' button?
[08:12] <GTroy> !sleep
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about sleep
[08:12] <grphx> It said invalid mode
[08:12] <cwillu> Amaranth, grphx:  sticky is +s instead of +x
[08:12] <Aviatrixie> gimme a sec
[08:12] <Amaranth> nnx: Try it.
[08:12] <cwillu> but I'm not sure that's what it's for
[08:12] <cwillu> grphx: what did you type exactly?
[08:13] <cwillu> oops, all lowercase, my bad
[08:13] <grphx> chmod O+RWS Rom24
[08:13] <grphx> hah
[08:13] <Amaranth> cwillu: iirc it makes all things created in that dir use the permissions of the folder
[08:13] <GTroy> !laptop
[08:13] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[08:13] <cwillu> Amaranth: I think it retains the user doesn't it?
[08:13] <Amaranth> cwillu: so if you have /home/travis/Public and create a file /home/travis/Public/foo it would be 777 too since I made /home/travis/Public 777
[08:14] <cwillu> sticky bit allows only the creator and the owner of the folder to delete files
[08:14] <grphx> It's still not letting me edit a file in there
[08:14] <Amaranth> cwillu: Sure but if it's 777 that doesn't matter
[08:14] <Amaranth> cwillu: ouch
[08:14] <nnx> Amaranth: It looks like I've got a few hundred packages to uninstall and a few hundred more to install,  It's the 'Mark Additional Required Changes' dialog.  is this right?
[08:14] <cwillu> Amaranth: 777 isn't sticky
[08:14] <Amaranth> cwillu: Ok, I guess it needs ACLs
[08:14] <cwillu> 777 is rwx
[08:14] <Amaranth> cwillu: sticky bit is orthogonal to rwx
[08:15] <Amaranth> nnx: Dunno, actually. I do all my upgrades from the internet.
[08:15] <cwillu> right, +S for sticky isn't it
[08:15] <Amaranth> cwillu: I believe so.
[08:15] <nnx> Amaranth: Alright.  I'll give it a shot as-is then.  Thank you.
[08:15] <grphx> Eh, not even the user cna change it
[08:15] <Amaranth> cwillu: But to do what he wants he needs to use POSIX ACLs.
[08:15] <cwillu> oops, t
[08:15] <cwillu> grphx: you just want everyone to read and write, right?
[08:15] <Amaranth> Which are way out of my knowledge area.
[08:15] <cwillu> no special access on files?
[08:16] <cwillu> grphx: what does ls -l say about the folder?
[08:17] <rob138> what is the best way to do AIM file transfer?
[08:17] <Amaranth> rob138: send a file using gaim?
[08:17] <tiagotiago> hi
[08:17] <Amaranth> rob138: Although I don't think the version in Ubuntu will work if you or the recipient are using a router.
[08:18] <rob138> Amaranth, whenever I recieve a larger file with gaim it stops around 7%
[08:18] <rob138> Amaranth, we are both behind wireless routers
[08:18] <Amaranth> rob138: Ouch.
[08:18] <Amaranth> rob138: Send it using something else instead? :)
[08:18] <tiagotiago> how do I move my instalation to other drive? (actually it is still on the same physical harddrive, but now it is a slave)
[08:18] <rob138> Amaranth, would the AIM for linux be a good choice to use in this instance?
[08:18] <rowanjl> Don't suppose there is a repo with PHP5.14? I've got PHP5.12, but I need some features only available in the new version.
[08:18] <Amaranth> rob138: You can try it, I guess. Last time I tried it I don't think it did file transfer at all.
[08:19] <Amaranth> rowanjl: Nope.
[08:19] <rowanjl> Bah, I guess I'll have to compile it :/
[08:19] <cwillu> rowanjl: you could see if you can find a deb off the php site, otherwise a source build isn't too hard (if you do that, investigate checkinstall first, to handle the installation)
[08:19] <Tv> anyone notice a weird slowdown with linux-image-2.6.15-25-686?
[08:19] <cwillu> grphx: still there?
[08:19] <_smd_> Is anyone from MB here?
[08:19] <cwillu> Tv: what type of slowdown?
[08:19] <Tv> for some reason, typing into xterm has a huge lag now
[08:19] <rowanjl> cwillu: checkinstall?
[08:20] <cwillu> rowanjl: instead of configure, make, make install
[08:20] <Tv> typing into gaim does not seem laggy
[08:20] <cwillu> rowanjl: install checkinstall via synaptic, and then configure, make, sudo checkinstall
[08:20] <cwillu> rowanjl: it'll make a deb from the make install automatically, so you can uninstall the package
[08:20] <rowanjl> ok, thanks
[08:20] <Tv> err, sorry, this is not xterm, this is gnome-terminal
[08:20] <Tv> xterm is much faster
[08:21] <cwillu> Tv: don't happen to have transparency or a background set on it, do you?
[08:21] <OrgulloKmoore> I prefer Konsole :)
[08:21] <Tv> cwillu: no, nothing like that
[08:21] <Tv> so maybe it wasn't the kernel change; I think some gnome packages got upgraded too
[08:21] <rob138> is ubuntu based on debian 2.1 or 3+?
[08:22] <Cornellius> rob138: Sid
[08:22] <cwillu> Tv: _could_ be swappiness related
[08:22] <cwillu> Tv: does gnome-terminal get responsive after a while?
[08:22] <Tv> cwillu: 1.5GB RAM, no swap used
[08:22] <rob138> Cornellius, i don't knwo what that is?
[08:22] <Cornellius> rob138: Sid = Unstable version of Debian
[08:22] <tiagotiago> where can I find information on how to make my ubuntu know the correct drive it is in?
[08:23] <Tv> seems like the widget used by gnome-terminal got broken somehow
[08:23] <rob138> Cornellius, okay thanks
[08:23] <cwillu> tv, could try removing and reinstalling it, etc with dependencies if it doens't fix it :/
[08:23] <cwillu> just a guess though
[08:23] <OrgulloKmoore> xterm is so basic!
[08:23] <OrgulloKmoore> I had never tried it before now
[08:23] <NickGarvey> OrgulloKmoore: and quick to compile thank god
[08:23] <crimsun> xterm(1) is far from basic.
[08:23] <NickGarvey> (gentoo...)
[08:23] <OrgulloKmoore> seems that way
[08:23] <passwordddd> how do i check my free disk space?
[08:24] <crimsun> passwordddd: df -h
[08:24] <cwillu> passwordddd:  nautilus should show you in the status area, or you can go to admin | disks and check the details on the mount
[08:25] <passwordddd> i have 20gb and it showed me 4.2
[08:25] <passwordddd> can i add it up?
[08:25] <will_> what is the newest alsa driver?
[08:25] <crimsun> will_: 1.0.11 is the latest stable; 1.0.12rc1 is the latest devel
[08:25] <passwordddd> i mean use all 20gb so i have more space..
[08:26] <will_> Thanks crimsun :D
[08:26] <will_> Should I just apt-get install ASLA1.0.11
[08:26] <will_> ?
[08:26] <crimsun> will_: why would you need to?
[08:26] <will_> (such a noob, but I am learning thanks to you guys!)
[08:26] <will_> I just got this error
[08:26] <will_> one sec
[08:26] <grphx> Okay, sorry to ask again, but how do you make a folder open to any user, including the original user?
[08:26] <cwillu> will_: the update-manager should stay on top of keeping everything up to date for the most part
[08:27] <will_> Well I got a FAILED TO OPEN ASLA
[08:27] <cwillu> grphx: crash course in unix perms :)
[08:27] <grphx> url?
[08:27] <will_> When I try to launch rose garden. Its not detecting something.
[08:27] <will_> QT or ASLA
[08:27] <cwillu> grphx: only the most specific permissions apply, so if you say owner=read, group=read, other=read/write, the owner and the group can only read, but anyone else can read and write
[08:27] <will_> My soundcard is an MAUDIO audiophile 2496
[08:28] <benplaut_win> anyone know of a way to make the computer come back from suspend at a key press? the power button is on its last legs :P
[08:28] <rob138> is there a way to do file transfer with gaim if i am behind a router?
[08:28] <cwillu> grphx: are you on command line or would you prefer via nautilus?
[08:28] <grphx> either one
[08:28] <Cornellius> Amaranth: Does Rosegarden needs TiMidity ? Never played with RG.
[08:28] <cwillu> k, well, do a ls -l <foldername>
[08:29] <Amaranth> Cornellius: Neither have I.
[08:29] <grphx> alright
[08:29] <crimsun> will_: does sound work in other apps?
[08:29] <will_> Audacity detects it, but thats it
[08:29] <will_> Soundtracker doesn't let me use MIDI either
[08:29] <crimsun> will_: so you can't hear anything with ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav''?
[08:29] <grphx> cwillu: Would you mind if you send me messages so I wont have to go through the entire chatroom log to find this again?
[08:29] <cwillu> you're probably wanting it to be something like drwxrwxrwx
[08:29] <cwillu> directory, <owner rwx>, <group rwx>, <other rwx>
[08:30] <cwillu> grphx: oops, sorry, I meant to :p
[08:30] <cwillu> oh, msg, right
[08:30] <will_> Well it uses my onboard junk for the primary
[08:30] <will_> SIS caca onboard
[08:30] <will_> :D
[08:30] <crimsun> will_: you don't want to use your audiophile for everything?
[08:30] <cwillu> grphx: is your nick registered?
[08:30] <will_> I do
[08:31] <tiagotiago> are my msgs even getting to you?
[08:31] <crimsun> will_: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards ~/.asoundrc*''
[08:31] <grphx> Yes they are getting to me.
[08:31] <will_> I should go into the admin and figure something out (So sorry, I am awinXP convert. Linux is really new to me)
[08:31] <tiagotiago> oh, ok
[08:31] <grphx> er.
[08:31] <grphx> I mean cwillu's are
[08:31] <grphx> Yes I replied to you
[08:31] <cwillu> :(
[08:31] <will_> 0 [SI7018         ] : SI7018 - SiS SI7018
[08:31] <will_>                      SiS SI7018 PCI Audio at 0xd400, irq 10
[08:31] <will_> 1 [M2496          ] : ICE1712 - M Audio Audiophile 24/96
[08:31] <will_>                      M Audio Audiophile 24/96 at 0xb400, irq 9
[08:32] <grphx> HOw do I register my nick?
[08:32] <tiagotiago> how can I reinstall ubuntu without losing what I already have on the drive?
[08:32] <cwillu> I think /msg nickserv register <nick> might work
[08:32] <Cornellius> will_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ please
[08:32] <Jbirdie> can i load a 'live' version onto a cd-rw and be able to run it, or does it have to be a cd-r?
[08:33] <HedgeMage> grphx: instructions are at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[08:33] <tiagotiago> try getting help for nickserv, something like "/nickserv help"
[08:33] <cwillu> /nickserv help
[08:33] <cwillu> /back
[08:33] <cwillu> how do I un /away?
[08:33] <Cornellius>    /away
[08:33] <Cornellius> just retype it
[08:34] <cwillu> okay
[08:34] <cwillu> thx
[08:34] <crimsun> will_: use System> Preferences> Sound> set default sound card
[08:34] <will_> Oh like report my problem? k thanks!
[08:34] <crimsun> will_: no, pastebin is for pastes, not for reporting problems
[08:35] <nalioth> Jbirdie: any writeable media will do
[08:35] <Jbirdie> tks
[08:35] <Cornellius> will_: When you know the copy/paste takes a lot of lines, paste it there http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/  It's also easier to read.
[08:35] <will_> Oh cool thanks :D
[08:35] <RancidLM> crimsun: loooks like i get the error driver/resource busy..so its not letting me read dsp while its playing at recording at the same time
[08:35] <crimsun> will_: did you use the menu? (System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card)
[08:35] <will_> Yeah so I don't flood the chat
[08:36] <p2p02> does anyone know something about coreutils
[08:36] <will_> Ypu just did!
[08:36] <moruan> does anyone know something about coreutils
[08:36] <leboff> hey can someone lead me in the right direction to installing kde alongside gnome on ubuntu?
[08:36] <will_> gonna load rosegarden
[08:37] <will_> crud it still only detects the SIS card for midi
[08:37] <will_> There isn't even a midi out on it :P
[08:37] <moruan> does anyone know something about coreutils ???
[08:37] <crimsun> will_: what does ~/.asoundrc.asoundconf list as the default?
[08:37] <crimsun> moruan: please clarify
[08:38] <carrera594> hello, I need help
[08:38] <tiagotiago> aparently here isn't as helpfull as I thought it would be :(
[08:38] <Cornellius> !midi
[08:38] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:38] <leboff> !kde
[08:38] <moruan> when i update my breezy5.10 to 6.06 , the coreutils it requires doesn't match the one i installed
[08:38] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:38] <will_> THe sis is the default still
[08:39] <leboff> well easier then i thought
[08:39] <ki4gmb> hello all
[08:39] <carrera594> does anyone here use Drapper with WG121 USB wireless adapter
[08:40] <will_> JackDriver::initialiseAudio - JACK server not running
[08:40] <will_> Does that help??
[08:41] <moruan> the information released by the system : kpkg: PreDepends : coreutils (>=5.93-1) but 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 is installed
[08:41] <moruan> how to solve this kind of problem
[08:41] <ki4gmb> no, but i'm having a problem with a wireless adaptor myself...
[08:42] <ikabot> Hi all.
[08:42] <moruan> how to remove former coreutils and install the new one
[08:42] <tiagotiago> where can I find information on how to move my instalation?
[08:42] <ikabot> I'm looking for Rosegarden 1.2.3. Does anyone know where I can apt-get this from?
[08:42] <will_> whoa
[08:43] <will_> ikabot is saying what I said
[08:43] <tga0> hey. is it possible to have an encrypted filesystem that stretches to only fit what it contains?
[08:43] <will_> like 2 hours ago
[08:43] <ki4gmb> my problem is that I'm attempting to compile ndiswrapper because the only NIC i have is wireless... and I cant rightly go and download packages... so does anyone know it's dependancies and where to find them?
[08:43] <ikabot> will_
[08:43] <ikabot> You're also looking for Rosegarden?
[08:44] <moruan>  <crimsun>: how to solve this problem ?
[08:44] <will_> I found it !
[08:44] <ikabot> I've been trying to get it from http://ubuntu.lnix.net/dapper/
[08:44] <will_> apt get rosegarden4
[08:44] <ikabot> Without success.
[08:44] <ikabot> I've activated the multiverse repository now.
[08:44] <ikabot> I'm going to try that.
[08:44] <will_> ikabot your intro and question is almost identical to mine word per word it's scary, I thought you were a bot!
[08:44] <ikabot> will_, please stay in touch. My email is isaac@fastsong.co.za.
[08:45] <ikabot> Or you can look me up at the Fast Song Entertainment website. www.fastsong.co.za
[08:45] <ikabot> Oh, no, you'll find I pass the turing test (I hope).
[08:45] <ikabot> What source did you use, will_?
[08:45] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils , any infromation will be appreciated
[08:45] <rowanjl> Ick, I feel like someone has jammed a hot nail through my neck...
[08:46] <scanner_X> hey, guys.  What files do i need to download to install KDE on ubuntu
[08:46] <scanner_X> in synaptic
[08:46] <ikabot> Whohoo! It's actually in multiverse repository.
[08:47] <tonyyarusso> scanner_X: kubuntu-desktop for the whole shebang.
[08:47] <rowanjl> is Rosegarden anything like FL Studio?
[08:47] <scanner_X> okay
[08:48] <tiagotiago> oh well
[08:48] <tiagotiago> :(
[08:49] <ubuntu> hey hi everybody
[08:50] <ubuntu> can the partitio in wich home will be installed be fat32??
[08:50] <ki4gmb> ok, so I guess my question is how I can install the kernel sources and link the kernel source to the modules directory
[08:50] <rowanjl> ubuntu, why would you want it to be?
[08:50] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: I do not think permissions work in fat32, so I would suggest against it
[08:50] <NickGarvey> rowanjl: so he can read write windows of course
[08:51] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: there are ext3 drivers for windows available though!
[08:51] <NickGarvey> !fs-driver
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about fs-driver
[08:51] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~
[08:51] <dli> ki4gmb, what is " link the kernel source to the modules directory "?
[08:51] <NickGarvey> !fsdriver
[08:51] <rowanjl> yeah
[08:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about fsdriver
[08:51] <ki4gmb> perhaps my explaining sucks
[08:51] <ki4gmb> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Installation
[08:51] <NickGarvey> !ext3 > ubuntu
[08:51] <NickGarvey> get that ubuntu?
[08:52] <ki4gmb> I have no internet connection in ubuntu because I need to use my wireless nic, but in order to do that, i need to install ndiswrapper.... and I cant rightly download it from the package manager
[08:52] <NickGarvey> ki4gmb: usb drive?
[08:52] <ki4gmb> nosir, PCI
[08:52] <NickGarvey> ki4gmb: floppy?
[08:52] <ki4gmb> Oh
[08:52] <ki4gmb> wait
[08:52] <ki4gmb> yes
[08:52] <Smeggy> anyone know how to map a mouse button to the "F12" action of compiz?
[08:52] <dli> ki4gmb, which card? " lspci
[08:52] <ki4gmb> but I need to compile it
[08:52] <NickGarvey> ki4gmb: yes you do... mm...
[08:52] <ki4gmb> lol
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> uh
[08:52] <ki4gmb> and make doesnt work.....
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> get the package from the repository
[08:52] <scanner_X> do i download K Desktop Environment core modules?  to get KDE?
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> reboot into ubuntu
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> and dpkg -i the deb
[08:53] <ki4gmb> okay
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> also isn't ndiswrapper on the CD yet?
[08:53] <NickGarvey> scanner_X: fro what?
[08:53] <dli> scanner_X, better, " sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop "
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> btw the repository should be ... somewhere
[08:53] <ki4gmb> i have the latest dapper release
[08:53] <RancidLM> what packages do i need to get arecord?
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> ask someone else to figure out the download location
[08:53] <schaadfa> hallo
[08:53] <schaadfa> habe ein problem
[08:53] <crimsun> RancidLM: you already have it: alsa-utils
[08:53] <ubuntu> NickGarvey, thanks...  so i can read/write in ext3 from windows xp??
[08:54] <schaadfa> sorry, english here :)
[08:54] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: yup :)
[08:55] <schaadfa> ive got a problem. Keyboard layout is set to german(switzerland) but its not correct at all... can anyone help?
[08:55] <ubuntu> NickGarvey, thanks...  so i can read/write in ext3 from windows xp??
[08:55] <PORDO> anyone know how to make an mvox mv100 usb speakerphone work in linux?
[08:55] <ubuntu> sorry
[08:55] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: yup...
[08:55] <NickGarvey> ubuntu: haha its fine
[08:55] <rowanjl> Hah, wireless makes me laugh
[08:56] <NickGarvey> rowanjl: evil...
[08:56] <dli> ubuntu, maybe it works, http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ , better, delete all windows
[08:56] <rowanjl> yikes, I'm suffering lag :/
[08:56] <ki4gmb> i cant find the repisotory
[08:56] <rowanjl> Nothing happened for about 5 minutes
[08:56] <Cornellius> dli: What's that ?
[08:57] <mikeo1> whats a good bandwith meter
[08:57] <mikeo1> for ubuntu
[08:58] <ardchoille> I have installed xubuntu-desktop and it ROCKS! Thank you Ubuntu devs!
[08:59] <addict3d> can someone please look into this link and tell me what mistake i've done ? http://pastebin.ca/74575
[08:59] <Cornellius> ardchoille: Yes, XFCE is nive
[08:59] <addict3d> i was trying to compile ldtp from cvs source i checked out today .. i'm new to this :(
[09:00] <dli> addict3d, then, avoid cvs
[09:00] <metatag> hello all
[09:01] <addict3d> dli, but i cant do without it
[09:01] <w^x> hey where can i get a snazzy link to spread the word about ubuntu on my site.
[09:01] <w^x> ?
[09:01] <metatag> how to install truetype fonts
[09:01] <metatag> on ubuntu?
[09:01] <addict3d> dli, imho, cvs didnt cause any problem :(
[09:02] <addict3d> dli, the problem was when i tryd 2 compile it .. autogen.sh gives me error
[09:02] <dli> metatag, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[09:03] <w^x> ? hello
[09:03] <dli> addict3d, cvs, no way for ubuntu to support it :( ask in the mailing list of that specific project
[09:03] <ardchoille> w^x: hi, I was just looking on the ubuntu site and trying to find something for ya
[09:04] <addict3d> dli, oh ok
[09:04] <w^x> yeah i'll throw a link on my blog and myspace if there are any.
[09:04] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~
[09:04] <ardchoille> w^x: you might have a look at this page: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[09:05] <prudhvi> Hi, which package in the Dapper LiveCD is responisible for installing it onto the Harddisk
[09:05] <moruan> any idea how to upgrade coreutils ?  ~~~
[09:05] <ardchoille> w^x: also, putting links to http://ubuntu.com and https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ would be a great start
[09:06] <dsas> prudhvi: ubiquity
[09:06] <w^x> ardchoille, i know im just looking for a slick link with a ubuntu logo or something
[09:06] <ardchoille> w^x: yeah, I'm still looking for that
[09:06] <prudhvi> dsas, thanks :)
[09:06] <w^x> ardchoille, ill cook something up with an image off of google
[09:06] <protocol1> is there any nice security software to install on dapper?
[09:07] <protocol1> like network/web security programs?
[09:08] <w^x> protocol1, yes
[09:08] <ardchoille> w^x: logos can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=show&redirect=UbuntuArtwork
[09:08] <dli> protocol1, try, bastille and psad , very easy to use, and even teach you some basic ideas of security
[09:08] <ardchoille> w^x: web buttons can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[09:08] <dli> protocol1, sudo apt-get install bastille psad
[09:08] <w^x> nmap, firewalls, nessus, basstille, ettercap, knock, many many more
[09:08] <protocol1> dli, thank you very much....:)
[09:08] <ki4gmb> any idea what I could require to install ndiswrapper
[09:09] <w^x> just do an apt-cache search security
[09:09] <ki4gmb> i'm missing dependancies
[09:09] <w^x> just do an apt-cache search secure
[09:09] <w^x> etcc.....
[09:10] <Dragoonz> pardon my stupidness ... but i'm running ubuntu desktop.  what script should i edit so that samba and winbind start up... /etc/rc.4/???
[09:10] <fdsd> hey guys,  I want my ubuntu machine to boot into console (which I have done) but I want it to auto login as root, is there a way to do this?
[09:10] <Dragoonz> or should i just make another one
[09:10] <will> I have to edit a file in the root directory, how do I do this^
[09:11] <ardchoille> fdsd: IMHO, that's a very bad idea
[09:11] <Dragoonz> will: sudo vi <file path>
[09:11] <fdsd> will, su then type cd
[09:11] <fdsd> ardchoille, dude I know what I am doing
[09:12] <AlexC> Hey
[09:12] <AlexC> How do I remove a Folder and all Files/Folders under it via terminal?
[09:12] <anto9us> Dragoonz, I know samba places its startup script in /etc/init.d/ when you install it I've not used winbind though, I imagine it does the same
[09:12] <ardchoille> fdsd: if you knew what you were doing, you wouldn't be logging in as root ;)
[09:12] <will> Authentication failure
[09:12] <fdsd> ardchoille, I am making a Livecd
[09:12] <Dragoonz> sudo rm -rf <path>
[09:12] <gavinchappell> AlexC: rm -rf /home/alexc/deadfolder
[09:12] <fdsd> ardchoille, so I dont need it to login as a user
[09:12] <AlexC> thanks,
[09:12] <gavinchappell> or sudo if it's not one of your own
[09:12] <dli> AlexC, rm -rf foo , you are warned to avoid using it anyway
[09:13] <rowanjl> Does anyone know where the Apache apxs bin is on Ubuntu?
[09:13] <protocol1> dli, after I installed them....what would you recommend I do next?
[09:13] <moruan> does anyone knows about coreutils ? any information is OK ~~~
[09:13] <gavinchappell> rowanjl: slocate axps
[09:13] <Dragoonz> ardchoille: they are both in /etc/init.d but i need them to start in an order and make sure of that order...
[09:13] <ikabot> rowanjl: I don't know FL Studio.
[09:13] <gavinchappell> or even type apxs
[09:14] <ikabot> It's a notation editor and midi sequencer though.
[09:14] <dli> protocol1, bastille has a peculiar way of configuring, InteractiveBastille
[09:14] <ardchoille> Dragoonz: I think you tab-completed the wrong nick :)
[09:14] <ikabot> If you're interested in music apps, keep in touch, rowanjl. You can get me at http://www.fastsong.co.za or email me at isaac@fastsong.co.za.
[09:14] <dli> protocol1, you'd better have perl-Tk to do GUI
[09:14] <ikabot> I've got to go though. Preparing for a client meeting at 11am.
[09:15] <protocol1> i'll get it
[09:15] <Dragoonz> ard??
[09:15] <will> man I can't get into my root folder
[09:15] <protocol1> dli, yeah installing that perl package now
[09:15] <protocol1> got it...what next?
[09:16] <will> How do I get admin rights?
[09:16] <dli> protocol1, gksudo InteractiveBastille
[09:16] <protocol1> ahhh
[09:16] <gavinchappell> Dragoonz: The order of initscripts is set by the position in the directory, so a script which is "S10blah" starts before "S20meh", which starts before "S21foo", etc
[09:16] <protocol1> ok...
[09:16] <ardchoille> Dragoonz: I don't remember having any conversations with you
[09:16] <gavinchappell> so if you want to change the order, you need to go into the right rcX.d folder (rc2.d for multiuser in Ubuntu?) and rename the symlinks so they're ordered correctly
[09:17] <Dragoonz> we have not had any
[09:17] <ardchoille> Dragoonz: I think you meant to post that to anto9us
[09:17] <scanner_X> how do i view .* folders in GUI
[09:17] <ki4gmb> i didnt think getting online with dapper would be this hard
[09:17] <anto9us> Dragoonz, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto for some useful info
[09:17] <Dragoonz> ardchoille sorry
[09:17] <gavinchappell> scanner_X: in Nautilus, press Ctrl-H
[09:17] <ardchoille> Dragoonz: no problem, it happens :)
[09:18] <Dragoonz> gacinchappell: so if S20samba and S20winbind i can cp S20samba S19samba and that will solve the issue
[09:18] <gavinchappell> no, copying it will make it try and start twice
[09:18] <gavinchappell> you need to mv
[09:18] <Dragoonz> err mv then right
[09:19] <Dragoonz> kk thx will give that a shot
[09:19] <Dragoonz> i'm still a n00b
[09:19] <gavinchappell> but yeah, changing S20samba to S19samba will make it start up immediately before winbind
[09:19] <fdsd> hey guys,  I am modifing the ubuntu livecd, I made it so it would boot into the console (have it turn off gdm and X), but I need to have a script run on the startup as root, or have it login as root automaticly, is there a way to do this?
[09:19] <protocol1> dli, I did the accept part...what next?
[09:19] <protocol1> wait?
[09:19] <protocol1> it says within 5 minutes
[09:20] <cwillu> fdsd: /etc/init.d I believe is what you want, or something along those lines
[09:20] <GuardianAtomos> I'm sorry if this is a terribly stupid question, but I recently installed Ubuntu 6.06 on my PowerBook. I let Ubuntu claim the unpartitioned free space on my disk to make its partitions. At this point, however, I want to be able to delete those partitions and reclaim that space for my OS X partition. Also, I'd like to restore the bootloader to OS X's default. Will this be terribly hard?
[09:20] <protocol1> i typed accept then hit enter
[09:20] <protocol1> what now?
[09:20] <will> su doesn't work for me
[09:20] <will> whats going wrong?
[09:20] <cwillu> will sudo
[09:20] <cwillu> no su
[09:21] <will> su: Authentication failure
[09:21] <cwillu> don't su
[09:21] <cwillu> sudo
[09:21] <Dragoonz> gavinchappell would you recomend S15 then?
[09:21] <will> su: Authentication failure
[09:21] <will> Sorry.
[09:21] <dli> protocol1, your perl-Tk doesn't work, most likely
[09:21] <dli> protocol1, or gksudo
[09:21] <cwillu> will:  root isn't user accessible on ubuntu by default;  anything you need root for, you can generally use sudo instead (password is your user password)
[09:22] <protocol1> dli, should I reboot and try again...cause I just installed these packages
[09:22] <will> I need to edit a moule file
[09:22] <will> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=C-Media&card=CMI8738&chip=CMI8738&module=cmipci#modp
[09:22] <will> I am trying to follow this
[09:22] <ki4gmb> does anyone have any idea what i might need to install ndiswrapper? the dependencies?
[09:22] <GuardianAtomos> For some reason, Disk Utility in OS X can see the Ubuntu partitions, but I can't do anything to do (i.e., erase them) because they aren't mounted.
[09:22] <will> My midi won't initialize in ROSEGARDEN
[09:22] <cwillu> will:  sudo gedit /file/name/they/say/to/edit should work in place of sudo
[09:23] <will> I just want a sound program so I can work on music, I have been fighting with linux allll night
[09:23] <cwillu> if they want you to have a root shell, 'sudo -s' will work, but don't tell anybody that I told you that :p
[09:23] <dli> protocol1, no, you don't have to reboot, unless you are updating your kernel
[09:23] <protocol1> dli, do you know a way I can fix this
[09:23] <will> :D
[09:24] <cwillu> man, I need to stop coming in here;  I've got absolutely nothing done in the last 7 days :)
[09:24] <cwillu> will, you didn't already do the last command did you?
[09:24] <ki4gmb> i can open the ndiswrapper package up; but I'm told I'm missing a dependency... and i dont know what I'm missing
[09:24] <cwillu> the ./configure one?
[09:25] <protocol1> dli, it gave me an error saying im not running a stable Debian GNU/Linux Version?
[09:25] <rowanjl> Ok, I still can't find apxs2, slocate returns nothing :/
[09:25] <rowanjl> yet I can run the command...
[09:25] <gavinchappell> try "type apsx2"
[09:25] <will> nope!
[09:25] <cwillu> will, or any of the lines with 'make install' in them?
[09:25] <volt^warlock> I'd do one of my old jokes, like "go buy a license for ubuntu/debian. you require one" - but i know blackshroud and the team dislikes that
[09:25] <rowanjl> thanks! :)
[09:26] <will> nope
[09:26] <will> Man it still doesnt work
[09:26] <cwillu> okay;  I'm going to make your life a bit more complicated :)
[09:26] <wbnormalPT> hello
[09:26] <will> uhhhnnngggg
[09:26] <cwillu> will:  which command?
[09:26] <wbnormalPT> synaptic return this errors
[09:26] <wbnormalPT> http://rafb.net/paste/results/aSdSzD80.html
[09:26] <wbnormalPT> somebody have idea?
[09:26] <protocol1> then said it waited for 300 seconds with no response recieved..  Quitting?
[09:26] <will> I just sudo gedit
[09:26] <Assassin5> whats the default password after ubuntu server has installed. It didn't ask during the install process?????
[09:26] <wbnormalPT> my source.list was not uficially
[09:26] <fdsd> hey guys,  I am modifing the ubuntu livecd, I made it so it would boot into the console (have it turn off gdm and X), but I need to have a script run on the startup as root, or have it login as root automaticly, do you know what I need to modify?
[09:26] <volt^warlock> Assassin5, It did. try just 'enter'
[09:27] <FeestBijtje> http://feestbijtje.homedns.org/youare.swf
[09:27] <wbnormalPT> i changed the source list some minut ag
[09:27] <Seveas> !tell Assassin5 about root
[09:27] <atsugnam> Trying to setup a scsi raid, I have mdadm installed, but not the program mkraid??
[09:27] <wbnormalPT> like this source.list: http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/SourcesList
[09:27] <volt^warlock> !tell volt^warlock about root
[09:27] <ardchoille> will: try: gksu gedit
[09:27] <cwillu> fdsd, investigate /etc/rc.*/ amd /etc/init*/
[09:27] <Seveas> wbnormalPT, please put the complete output on the pastebin, not just the last lines
[09:28] <fdsd> cwillu, I have been, the script I need to run needs to be ran as root, and the user needs to interact with it
[09:28] <will> what does that do?
[09:28] <ki4gmb> sigh
[09:28] <protocol1> dli, its saying I dont have a stable version of Debian
[09:28] <ardchoille> will: gksu launches gui apps as sudo
[09:28] <Assassin5> sudo is all very well if I know the root password. Trust me, it asked me to add a user, but didn't ask for the root password.
[09:29] <fdsd> cwillu, which I dont think will work if I just stick it in the rc.local
[09:29] <will> Oh cool :D
[09:29] <atsugnam> Assassin5, standard setup for ubuntu has no root password
[09:29] <ardchoille> Assassin5: sudo doesn't use the root password
[09:29] <atsugnam> sudo is setup to allow all for Administration users
[09:29] <protocol1> dli,System is not running a stable Debian GNU/Linux version. Setting to 3.0.
[09:29] <Assassin5> no root password? even on the server version?
[09:30] <atsugnam> if you didn't set it, then yes
[09:30] <ardchoille> Assassin5: that's what sudo is for. I have been running Linux for years and haven't needed to log into root
[09:30] <atsugnam> also, as ardchoille said, sudo requires _your_ password, not the root password
[09:30] <Assassin5> I've just never really used it, I tend to su.
[09:31] <protocol1> dli, I got it
[09:31] <protocol1> I had to use sudo
[09:31] <protocol1> lol
[09:31] <protocol1> thanks for the help bud
[09:31] <cwillu> fdsd: ~/.profile might be useful, also, you can set sudoers to allow specific commands (with specific or general arguments) without a password, but running under root, alternatively, you could setuid the prog you need to run (but be careful with either of thosE)
[09:31] <stefanolongo87>  /join #ubuntu-it
[09:32] <protocol1> dli, I got it
[09:32] <protocol1> I had to use sudo instead of gksudo
[09:32] <xenex> !uset autoinvite 1
[09:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about uset autoinvite 1
[09:32] <fdsd> cwillu, good ideas
[09:32] <wbnormalPT> Seveas: http://rafb.net/paste/results/aheYDO86.html
[09:32] <fdsd> cwillu, thanks
[09:32] <dli> protocol1, do you have X with sudo?
[09:32] <protocol1> yep
[09:33] <protocol1> it opened a window Bastille
[09:33] <dli> protocol1, that's it
[09:33] <protocol1> give me a gui with security questions
[09:33] <xenex> why was i kicked?
[09:33] <Seveas> for messing with the bot
[09:33] <protocol1> dli, thanks for the help
[09:33] <xenex> Seveas: i did /amsg sorry
[09:33] <dli> protocol1, I don't like sudo, and the channel ops hate me to tell others to use root
[09:34] <protocol1> i understand
[09:34] <Chetwin> is this the 6.06 room?
[09:34] <cwillu> yep
[09:34] <ardchoille> Chetwin: yes
[09:34] <wbnormalPT> Seveas: are you here ?
[09:34] <dli> protocol1, okay, just one excuse of being ignorant of sudo :(
[09:34] <Healot> 5.10 and 6.06
[09:34] <Chetwin> Awesome
[09:34] <Chetwin> I just remembered that dapper used to be ubuntu+1
[09:34] <LordElph2> what's the best linux-image* package for a dual Xeon based server?
[09:35] <cwillu> Chetwin: yep, before it was released :)
[09:35] <Chetwin> Didn't know if now that it's official it's here
[09:35] <Chetwin> Right right
[09:35] <cwillu> LordElph2, others:  I believe multi cpu is built in the standard kernel now, right?
[09:36] <Chetwin> I'm still getting used to apt
[09:36] <atsugnam> no, you need the smp kernel
[09:36] <Chetwin> Some of this is confusing, I'm coming from a very strong SuSE background
[09:36] <cwillu> LordElph2: what atsugnam said
[09:36] <cwillu> Chetwin: what's the problem?
[09:36] <Chetwin> My computer at work is giving me some crap error
[09:37] <Chetwin> I used easyubuntu to get a list of mirrors and try to install the MS fonts
[09:37] <cwillu> 'crap error' eh?  :p
[09:37] <cwillu> :(
[09:37] <Chetwin> MS fonts didn't place nice
[09:37] <LordElph2> atsugnam, thanks - any idea what the package name might be?
[09:37] <cwillu> easyubuntu causes all the best problems :)
[09:37] <Chetwin> Arg
[09:37] <atsugnam> linux-image-686-smp
[09:37] <atsugnam> or
[09:37] <Chetwin> I'm a n00b to ubuntu
[09:37] <sid> my network is not working in dapper
[09:37] <atsugnam> kernel-image-686-smp
[09:37] <cwillu> Chetwin: might want to visit #easyubuntu might be able to help quicker
[09:37] <Chetwin> I've no real world experience with a debian based distro
[09:38] <Chetwin> Aye
[09:38] <atsugnam> LordElph2, load up synaptics, and search for kernel, then you get a pretty list
[09:38] <LordElph2> ah probably the latter, didn't see anything likely in apt-cache search linux-image
[09:38] <atsugnam> it's much easier to find packages in synaptics
[09:38] <LordElph2> is it a console app?
[09:38] <atsugnam> no
[09:39] <atsugnam> gui
[09:39] <LordElph2> this is a server install
[09:39] <atsugnam> ah
[09:39] <LordElph2> I'm used to apt-get though
[09:39] <atsugnam> apparently aptitude is better than apt-get
[09:39] <LordElph2> just new to ubuntu
[09:39] <cwillu> Chetwin: alternatively, you could switch back to a standard sources.list, and restart from there (a bit better to get a sense of how thing work anyway, especially if you have linux experience)
[09:39] <atsugnam> when dealing with req's etc....
[09:39] <will> MAN
[09:40] <will> Rosegarden stillllll won't work
[09:40] <will> this is so discouraging
[09:40] <will> Should I try anotherprogram?
[09:40] <will> I really need something to make music
[09:40] <will> My akai needs a good sequencer ;D
[09:40] <LordElph2> looks like the package for me is linux-686-smp - thanks for the pointers
[09:41] <Seveas> LordElph2, linux-686-smp no longer exists in dapper - the linux-686 kernel is SMP-enabled too
[09:41] <XeruX> How can I install ubuntu dapper ( 6.06 ) without using X or an earlier version of Ubuntu like 5.10 ?
[09:41] <cwillu> anyone know if easyubuntu's damage be undone by going back to a standard sources.list and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop? or something?
[09:42] <cwillu> XeruX: alternatives ubuntu cd has a textmode installer
[09:42] <Jbirdie> will i be able yo use linux without immediate knowledge of things like sudo and mount points and X and all this other stuff...can just use it then i can learn it 'on the fly'? i had 5 rootkit infestations since saturday and will not continue to use windows!
[09:42] <Jbirdie> yo=to
[09:43] <XeruX> cwillu: what do you mean "alternatives ubuntu cd"?
[09:43] <prudhvi> Where can i get more details about Ubiquity and its Internals ?
[09:43] <cwillu> Jbirdie: yep, depending on your expectations
[09:43] <Healot> the Alternate Install CD
[09:43] <cwillu> sorry, that's what I meant
[09:43] <LordElph2> Seveas: yep, I'm watching it install now and it looks that package was just aliased to linux-image-686
[09:44] <XeruX> and where can I find this "alternate ubuntu cd"?
[09:44] <cwillu> Jbirdie: assuming that it installs okay, you should have openoffice, basic browsing (no flash or java), etc working out of the box
[09:44] <cwillu> XeruX: off ubunu.com I believe
[09:44] <GreySim> Question.  What's the bittorrent daemon for?  Is that for tracking?  Or does it also control downloading via frontends?  (I'm assuming it's installed by default.  If not, I'm not sure where it came from.  /etc/init.d/bittorrent)
[09:44] <Seveas> !alternate
[09:44] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-installation CD, with no live session. Use this if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an expert install.
[09:44] <Jbirdie> i just want to use it, in peace and learn on the fly - i have over 30 yrs experience in the computer biz, so i aint a blithering idiot, just a raw newbie
[09:44] <SirAlf> Hi! I'm trying to use XDMCP to connect to my other computer (ubuntu 6.06 also) and when i login remotely, the other computer stops sending data and i get this error:
[09:44] <SirAlf> Backtrace:
[09:44] <SirAlf> 0: X(xf86SigHandler+0x86) [0x80b4a56] 
[09:44] <SirAlf> 1: [0xffffe420] 
[09:44] <SirAlf> 2: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbCopyNtoN+0x1ea) [0xb737af5a] 
[09:44] <SirAlf> 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbCopyRegion+0xb8) [0xb737b743] 
[09:44] <SirAlf> 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbDoCopy+0x487) [0xb737bd88] 
[09:45] <SirAlf> 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfb.so(fbCopyArea+0x78) [0xb737be49] 
[09:45] <dsas> !paste
[09:45] <GreySim> !paste
[09:45] <SirAlf> 6: [0xb7419eb9] 
[09:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:45] <Seveas> Jbirdie, Ubuntu will give you a smooth entry into linx if your hardware cooperates
[09:45] <SirAlf> Fatal server error:
[09:45] <cwillu> http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ ,scroll down to alternatives
[09:45] <SirAlf> Caught signal 11.  Server aborting
[09:45] <SirAlf> can anyone help me?
[09:45] <Jbirdie> cool!
[09:46] <wbnormalPT> http://rafb.net/paste/results/aheYDO86.html
[09:46] <Seveas> Jbirdie, and if you have problems with Ubuntu, we're here to help 
[09:46] <wbnormalPT> some idea ?
[09:46] <Seveas> wbnormalPT, fun, emacs borking all over :/
[09:46] <Seveas> wbnormalPT, you could try purging emacs and reinstalling it
[09:46] <ardchoille> Why don't people read the topic before pasting multiple lines?
[09:47] <wbnormalPT> apt-get install emacs21
[09:47] <wbnormalPT> ?
[09:47] <Jbirdie> super...like we say here on maui - big mahalos brah!!!
[09:47] <wbnormalPT> i think that return the same errors
[09:47] <astro_-> Can anyone help me with this? After a smooth installation from the CD, when I reboot my computer, I get a "GRUB Loading Stage 1.5Read Error"
[09:47] <Seveas> wbnormalPT, dpkg -P emacs21
[09:47] <cwillu> ardchoille: because the topic line is kinda intimidating;
[09:47] <cwillu> it's a block of text that looks like computereese :)
[09:48] <ardchoille> cwillu: hehe
[09:48] <BSoDirl> mmm xfce..
[09:48] <cwillu> astro_-: not dead sure, but you might find some useful information here:
[09:48] <cwillu> !grub
[09:48] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:49] <Jbirdie> well, i am gonna boot upthis live cd and see if it passes the hdwe test, again tks!!!
[09:49] <will> OK
[09:49] <will> jackd is already the newest version.
[09:49] <cwillu> np
[09:49] <will> This is what terminal tells me
[09:49] <will> but
[09:49] <astro_-> cwillu: ok, I'll take another look.. been struggling with this for a while though, gettin' kinda frustrated..
[09:49] <will> everything tells me jack isnt running
[09:50] <will> sigh
[09:50] <will> it's like 4am
[09:50] <Seveas> !enter
[09:50] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:50] <cwillu> will, what happens if you just type jackd& in a terminal?
[09:50] <morphix> i installed bitchx-gtk frontend for bitchx, when i try to open it.. i get this error > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16735 > i THINK its related to me having a dual screen setup, not sure.
[09:50] <GreySim> !bittorrent
[09:50] <grphx> Hey how can I mount another HD?
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about bittorrent
[09:51] <cwillu> !torrent
[09:51] <ubotu> Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt) Bittorent faq: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[09:51] <will> cwillu I get a huge splerg of usage text
[09:51] <cwillu> grphx: ntfs?
[09:51] <will> Dude your from Canada ;D
[09:51] <cwillu> dude I am
[09:51] <will> hehehe sorry :D
[09:52] <cwillu> I am canadian :p
[09:52] <grphx> Yeh
[09:52] <will> I'm from NB
[09:52] <will> but live in Quebec now
[09:52] <cwillu> neat
[09:52] <will> I dont speak french :P
[09:52] <mman> hi all
[09:52] <Seveas> hi mman
[09:52] <grphx> cwillu: Yes it's ntfs
[09:52] <cwillu> !ntfs
[09:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:52] <ardchoille> will cwillu : small world, eh?
[09:53] <cwillu> gryphx:  read access only;  write can be made to work (but not trivially), but one step at a time
[09:53] <will> but yeah, jack isn'tyeah :D
[09:53] <cwillu> ardchoille: in the sense that I'm almost completely unlikely to ever randomly meet him in person, yes :p
[09:55] <grphx> I thought to mount a HD it was one line?
[09:55] <rowanjl> Why do people with bad connections have to idle on IRC?
[09:56] <cwillu> grphx: sudo mount /device/path /mount/path -t ntfs should work, but it's not permanent
[09:56] <userundefine> where else can they idle.  IRC is for people too cool to chat
[09:56] <rowanjl> Its worse when they have auto-reconnect, you get an endless stream of join/quit messages
[09:56] <ardchoille> Anyone have any ideas about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205684
[09:56] <morphix> does anyone know of a nice looking mpd client that support a HUGE playlist.. mpd supports a huge playlist.. but none of the clients do :(
[09:56] <grphx> Last night someone helped me mount my harddrive and even let me write to it
[09:56] <grphx> Iforgot exactly what I did though
[09:57] <cwillu> grphx: captive-ntfs?
[09:57] <cwillu> or fuse?
[09:57] <grphx> yeh
[09:57] <grphx> 1st
[09:57] <cwillu> grphx: do you have a copy of ntoskn or whatever and ntfs.dll or whatever around?
[09:58] <grphx> I dunno
[09:58] <cwillu> I believe you have to mount ntfs readonly first to get those two files somewhere readable, then remount using mount /path /mount -t captive-ntfs -o options...
[09:58] <cwillu> man captive or man captive-ntfs might shed some light
[09:59] <grphx> Geee
[09:59] <grphx> Why is it so hard to show a harddrive
[09:59] <morphix> it isnt :P
[09:59] <BSoDirl> btw yallz, xfce4 on breezy is sweeeet
[09:59] <grphx> and why did they make it to where you have to mount a harddrive?
[09:59] <grphx> Why not just have it there
[09:59] <cwillu> grphx: reading ntfs is easy;  writing to it is hard, because writing is inherently dangerous when the people who wrote the original don't like you
[10:00] <cwillu> grphx: but yes, it'd be nice if hd's could just be mounted in media automatically
[10:00] <grphx> *sigh* I guess i gotta do teh whole thing again
[10:01] <morphix> i installed bitchx-gtk frontend for bitchx, when i try to open it.. i get this error > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16735 > i THINK its related to me having a dual screen setup, not sure.
[10:02] <LordElph2> just out of curiosity, having never seen it before, where do the varrun and varlock filesystems actually live? a temporary file somewhere? in swap?
[10:02] <rowanjl> Stupid capitalist bastards
[10:03] <Chetwin> I got one for you guys
[10:03] <cwillu> Chetwin: lets try this :)
[10:03] <Chetwin> Why cant I get direct render turned on with an ati x200?
[10:03] <rowanjl> direct render?
[10:04] <RememberPOL> Is it just me or is google.com down?
[10:04] <Chetwin> I can't get 3d acceleration to work
[10:04] <snoops> RememberPOL has google ever gone down in the last 6 years?
[10:05] <stefg> when ping google.com doesn't work, i always immediatly check my network setup
[10:05] <Healot> Chetwin: which card
[10:05] <Chetwin> ati x200
[10:05] <Chetwin> radeon express
[10:05] <Healot> number?
[10:05] <Healot> model number
[10:06] <RememberPOL> snoops no but my system has been acting very funky
[10:06] <Chetwin> Uh
[10:06] <RememberPOL> i can't access a bunch of sites
[10:06] <Healot> you are now...
[10:07] <Chetwin> 200M
[10:07] <Dragoonz> anyone have an idea of where i can look to get AD users to be able to have rights to gnome at login?
[10:07] <RememberPOL> I feel like microsoft or my ISP are spying on me and limiting my account usage, lol.
[10:07] <RememberPOL> I can access msn.com and microsoft.com fine
[10:07] <Chetwin> Radeon XPRESS 200M
[10:07] <RememberPOL> but not google.com
[10:07] <Healot> x200 huh
[10:07] <Healot> !ati
[10:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:07] <Chetwin> RememberPOL: Are you using ie7
[10:07] <dsas> Dragoonz: You'll probably want to look at PAM and kerberos.
[10:07] <dsas> Dragoonz: Maybe more that I'm not aware of.
[10:08] <RememberPOL> Chetwin, no
[10:08] <RememberPOL> FX 1.5.0.4
[10:08] <Dragoonz> dsas: i'm using pam/kerberos/winbind/samba - sudo login works with AD username and pass but they do not have access to the gnome x11
[10:10] <dsas> Dragoonz: That's kind of above me I'm afraid.
[10:13] <Dragoonz> i will work on it tomorrow
[10:14] <adamant1988> Can someone tell me what repo I've added twice with this? "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)" I was being an idiot and playing around in synaptic
[10:14] <GloomyKngith> hi
[10:19] <mada> any programmers in the house?
[10:19] <jpgvietnam> hi
[10:20] <mada> hello
[10:20] <jpgvietnam> my name is vinh
[10:21] <Healot> !ask
[10:21] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:25] <mada> alot of joining ... not alot of talking
[10:25] <pfarmer> mada: what up?
[10:25] <Healot> what language are you seeking?
[10:25] <mada> you a programmer?
[10:25] <mada> anything
[10:26] <mada> just curious how many coders run ubuntu
[10:26] <Adium> Id say at least 500 incl myself
[10:27] <pfarmer> mada:I code perl for a living and I run ubuntu on my dev boxes...........
[10:27] <achandra> php, java,c,perl which flavor?
[10:27] <Adium> Has any one ever done a memtest86+? its been running for 10hrs straight :\
[10:27] <mada> pfarmer: awesome ....
[10:27] <Healot> oh... many I guess, but I am no programmer
[10:27] <snoops> yeah I'm a programmer mada
[10:28] <pfarmer> mada: by why do you want to know?
[10:28] <achandra> i attest that to know linux well you must be a decent C programmer..
[10:28] <mada> pfarmer: i am a computer science student in college and i have been a long time debian user (about 5 years) and i just switched to ubuntu about a month ago when i built my new amd64 box, just thought i would see if anyone else who codes runs ubuntu
[10:29] <pfarmer> mda:
[10:29] <CrippsFX> woohoo!
[10:29] <Adium> mada answer is yes a load of people who code run ubuntu
[10:29] <mada> pfarmer: with the release of SLED 10 coming up i want to see what edgy has in store
[10:29] <Stc> hi
[10:29] <mada> Adium: sweetness
[10:29] <CrippsFX> mada, yeah, like me.
[10:29] <Stc> how i can mount jfs partition by livecd ?
[10:29] <pfarmer> mada: well I run ubuntu on my x86 and sparc boxes, but debian on my SGI O2
[10:30] <mada> my favorite thing about it is that it is essentially everything i want out of a debian desktop with a little extra
[10:30] <snoops> I haven't coded anything for linux before.. but after using ubuntu for awhile.. I'm pretty keen to contribute to the whole ideal.. I enjoy the whole linux philosophy actually
[10:30] <mada> pfarmer: yeah, my dual opteron server still runs debian, but i like ubuntu for the desktop
[10:30] <ardchoille> Ubuntu ROCKS!
[10:30] <achandra> I think the open-ldap integration section in ubuntu could use some some work...
[10:30] <Jbirdie> is there a distro that will work with a dual core processor??? i tried bucky beaver(ver 5.10 & 6.06) and was to told to come get daffy duck(6.06) and none will work on this machine...errors out tryin to configute graphics card (ati radeon x300se) help plz
[10:30] <Adium> my server runs mac os x, though i may end up with ubuntu on it
[10:31] <snoops> I've got an x2 amd Jbirdie and dapper runs fine on it
[10:31] <mada> Jbirdie: i thought you could just run any smp enabled kernel on a dual core machine
[10:31] <pfarmer> mada: never used SLED or anything suse before - used to use Red Hat, then Slackware, then debian and have looked back since....... although I'm told Red Hat/Fedora has come a long way since I used it.......
[10:31] <MistaED> hehe, daffy duck
[10:32] <ardchoille> Jbirdie: I like your code names for the distro :)
[10:32] <CrippsFX> does anybody know how to get real transparency running in XGL/CompIZ? i.e. I want to have my gnome-terminal open overtop of firefox and be able to see firefox instead of the desktop through the terminal window
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i shutdown from cmdline, under the graphical side ?
[10:32] <Assassin5> ahhh expert mode install. much better.
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to create a script that shutdowns my machine if it's temperature goes too high
[10:32] <ardchoille> MetaMorfoziS: sudo shutdown -h now.. or -r (reboot)
[10:32] <Adium> right click the top of the window aperiance >> opacity >> take your pick ;p
[10:32] <Jbirdie> i have tried 3 versions and all fail...i can run suse, kinspire, knoppix
[10:32] <mada> pfarmer: your linux time line is the same as mine ... i started on a RH boxed set many years ago, then switched to slack to learn more about linux and then on to debian because of the superior package management and the stability that can't be matched and now ubuntu holds claim to my desktop
[10:32] <MetaMorfoziS> without sudo^^
[10:32] <Stc> CrippsFX, install gset-compiz and configure trasparency effects
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> i forget : without sudo
[10:33] <CrippsFX> Stc, thanks.
[10:33] <pfarmer> mada: :)
[10:33] <achandra> MetaMorfisiS: shutdown -h now or init 0 depending on how you want to do it..
[10:33] <Jbirdie> linspire
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sajt:~$ shutdown -h
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> shutdown: you must be root to do that!
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> meta@sajt:~$ init 0
[10:33] <MetaMorfoziS> init: must be superuser.
[10:33] <Healot> halt right thre
[10:33] <mada> pfarmer: ever played with python?
[10:34] <Healot> my python is green and huge
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to shutdown without any root right
[10:34] <mada> MetaMorfoziS: sudo shutdown -h
[10:34] <Adium> Healot, lol
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> without sudo!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:34] <pfarmer> mada: Have tried, but I've been coding with perl for so long that python just seems weird, I do keep trying it.......
[10:34] <mada> MetaMorfoziS: good luck
[10:34] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:35] <Healot> i know what "python" is, I Joke I joke
[10:35] <achandra> MetaMorfoziS: it can be done in a quirky way if you put yourself in the root group....like i said quirky...
[10:35] <mada> pfarmer: cool cool ... i started out as a java programmer and then learned c/c++ just out of requirement, and i just started learning python about 5 hours ago .. and from what i've read i like it, just wondering the impression from a professional, but i also know perl is very different
[10:36] <mada> awww damn ... brb
[10:36] <neotard> mada:  if you're used to java, python will be very comfortable
[10:37] <neotard> less arcana in python than some of the other scripting languages :)
[10:38] <andyjeffries> Hi, I'm a new Ubuntu user (from Gentoo) and am very happy so far, but there's some tab completion wierdness going on in the termina.  If I have a file called myfile.avi, I can type "totem m" hit tab and it completes it.  If I type "mplayer m" tab it does nothing, and still does nothing until I type the whole filename.  Any ideas?
[10:38] <snoops> I've been using ruby lately.. very cool stuff.. I totally digg the oo of it all, coming from a C#, pascal/delphi background
[10:38] <neotard> snoops:  ruby is interesting.. python is oo as well.  the one thing I didn't like about ruby is it can be as even arcane looking as alot of perl.
[10:39] <Adium> try totem ~/m tab
[10:39] <neotard> snoops:  whereas with python you can just look at it and know what's going on.
[10:39] <Jbirdie> brb
[10:39] <snoops> is everything treated as an object in python?
[10:39] <ubuntu> how do i remove grub boot loader?
[10:39] <neotard> snoops:  yes, python is an oo language :)
[10:39] <snoops> polymorphism, inheritance, and such?
[10:39] <Healot> ubuntu: with another boot loader
[10:39] <Assassin5> !ltsp
[10:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about ltsp
[10:39] <elijah> HELP meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!
[10:39] <Adium> sorry mplayer ~/m andyjeffries
[10:40] <ubuntu> like
[10:40] <Assassin5> hmmm
[10:40] <elijah> neither ubuntu nor xubuntu will install
[10:40] <neotard> snoops:  yes, it's everything ruby is
[10:40] <andyjeffries> Adium: So why does mplayer and totem behave differently like this?
[10:40] <elijah> ubuntu installer hangs after "Edit partitions manually" step
[10:40] <andyjeffries> Adium: mplayer ~/m{tab} does nothing either
[10:40] <snoops> neotard might give it a look in a couple years :).. Using rails at the moment for my web stuff (I'm mainly a web developer)
[10:40] <Adium> andyjeffries to be honest i dont really know i try not to use totem
[10:40] <achandra> andyjeffries: any other files starting with m in that directory? I wonder if totem has recognition for certain file types..and does an autocomplete...I touched a myfile.avi and autocomplete worked fine for me with both apps,,
[10:40] <elijah> and xubuntu alternate text installer makes screen go blank while configurig xserver
[10:41] <neotard> elijah:  odd, I can't say why, but I can say that I've installed ubuntu several times over the last month and had no issues with that.
[10:41] <ubuntu> well something happened to that partition and now i cant load windows
[10:41] <neotard> snoops:  I only know about ruby because of rails.  started looking into it, but meh..  using turbogears atm for my own web projects, which is a tad easier to construct with imo.
[10:41] <andyjeffries> achandra: Hitting double tab should have brought up a list of matches but it doesn't.  Weird that it doesn't work here then if it works for you...
[10:42] <elijah> breezy was so much better:(
[10:42] <ardchoille> andyjeffries: what is the output of:  which mplayer
[10:42] <achandra> andyjeffries: as test go to /tmp or something... and touch a myfile.avi and try with both apps...thats pretty much what I did as a test..
[10:43] <andyjeffries> ardchoille: /usr/bin/mplayer
[10:43] <ardchoille> andyjeffries: ok
[10:43] <zamarronstein> alguien de aqu{i habla espaol?
[10:43] <ardchoille> !es
[10:43] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:44] <imacjack> Does anyone here know about Xorg.config?
[10:44] <zamarronstein> y como me cambio de sala
[10:44] <ardchoille> ubotu: tell zamarronstein about es
[10:44] <suspekt> anyone know alot about gdm cusomization?
[10:44] <zamarronstein> i have a problem
[10:45] <SVisor> imacjack: I know that such thing exist, what else do I need to know? ;-)
[10:45] <martinoc> Hi. No matter what I try, my laptop just wont run dapper from an install.
[10:45] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[10:45] <achandra> imacjack: used to configure mice, touchpads, video cards....etc..etc..
[10:45] <imacjack> Well im looking at the video card part of it
[10:45] <achandra> k
[10:45] <imacjack> Is there a way I can have it auto detect?
[10:45] <andyjeffries> ardchoille, achandra, Adium: OK, thanks for your help.  Found out what it was (I was using myfile.avi a shorter filename to use on here).  The file didn't have a .avi file ending and for some wierd reason I can now only mplayer {tab} on files ending with valid file endings.  This may seem strange to you guys (wanting to do that), but I often check on the process during download (when the filename ends in .part or .prz0)
[10:45] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: what is the problem?
[10:46] <imacjack> because I tried manually setting it and now my screen is funky colors
[10:46] <suspekt> I do that too... get a tast of the action befor its done loading
[10:46] <zamarronstein> i have a virus
[10:46] <neotard> martinoc:  you're able to get through the install completely and then it won't boot?
[10:46] <achandra> andyjeffries: like I was saying...i think file recognition types......good to know though.... :)
[10:47] <Adium> Your Welcome andyjeffries
[10:47] <zamarronstein> I run Aegis, and it has detected w32/Magister
[10:47] <SVisor> imacjack: Exactly what did you change. Only time Ive managed to get funky colors is when: Monitor is broken, the monitor cable is broken.
[10:47] <martinoc> yes, I have to do an install from the alternate cd as live cd has its share of problems, but when I boot into the installed os, the kernel panics
[10:47] <andyjeffries> achandra: You don't know how to turn this off do you?
[10:48] <SVisor> imacjack: You could try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:48] <Adium> how long will memtest86 take on 512mb ram as its been running for 10 hours now
[10:48] <soundray> Guys (Girls?) - do you know a way of activating emacs key combinations in gnome and/or gedit?
[10:49] <imacjack> SVisor: I messed with the refresh rates
[10:49] <imacjack> thats how I got it to even work at all in the first place
[10:49] <mada> snoops: the oo in python will blow your mind
[10:49] <soundray> Adium: it will stop when you hit Esc. Did you get any errors in the 10 hours?
[10:49] <Adium> nope
[10:49] <mada> snoops: i've never played with ruby, but i read into it alot and ended up deciding to learn python ... i <3 oo and python is where its at
[10:49] <tapu> can any one help me how to install dvd players in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Adium> is it suppose to stop by its self?
[10:50] <soundray> Adium: purists run memtest86 for a week, but after 10 hours, you can already be pretty sure your memory is okay.
[10:50] <mada> tapu: sure
[10:50] <mada> tapu: what dvd player you want?
[10:50] <Adium> Thank You soundray
[10:50] <soundray> Adium: no, it'll continue to loop.
[10:50] <elijah> no one to help.....im going back to FC5....more stable than this dapper release...
[10:50] <Adium> ok thanks
[10:50] <tapu> any...I just want to watch movies properly
[10:50] <zamarronstein> i search help in ubuntu-es, but, i don't found nothing about w32/Magister.a@
[10:50] <SVisor> imacjack: In the monitor section or Screen section?
[10:50] <sinthetek> is this an official ubuntu channel?
[10:51] <mada> tapu: you familiar with the command line or want to use synatpec?
[10:51] <ardchoille> sinthetek: yes
[10:51] <andyjeffries> Found it, in /etc/bash_completion there's a whole section about mplayer.  Ripped that out and it's now back fine :-)
[10:51] <mada> synaptec*
[10:51] <snoops> mada I'm pretty happy with ruby for web work ;)
[10:51] <sinthetek> i'm curious as to why they changed the name of the admin group without documenting it anywhere
[10:51] <soundray> elijah: what's the problem?
[10:51] <achandra> nice
[10:51] <imacjack> Monitor
[10:51] <achandra> andyjeffries: cool
[10:51] <imacjack> SVisor
[10:51] <soundray> sinthetek: what makes you think they did?
[10:51] <mada> snoops: oooo, yeah ... i've heard ruby on rails is awesome
[10:51] <tapu> i am little familier with command line...but would prefer synatptec
[10:52] <zamarronstein> help me
[10:52] <sinthetek> i spent like 4 hours trying to figure out why i was suddenly unable to su anymore, since grepping my name from /etc/groups showed it still in admin
[10:52] <zamarronstein> please help me
[10:52] <morphix> elijah, FC5 :| u gotta be joking.
[10:52] <imacjack> Svisor the reconfigure worked like a charm!
[10:52] <imacjack> Thank you SOOOO much!
[10:52] <shadeofgrey> okay guys i need help with soimething
[10:52] <achandra> andyjeffries: probably very useful if you're streaming or capturing video or something....interisting..
[10:52] <mada> tapu: click System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager
[10:52] <soundray> sinthetek: tried sudo rather than su? (You're not supposed to use su in Ubuntu)
[10:52] <sinthetek> then i opened /etc/groups and saw the first user i had added (primary user of the system) was in adm as well as admin. i added myself to adm, and it worked fine
[10:52] <imacjack> SVisor: it is working perfectly now!
[10:52] <shadeofgrey> how the hell do i add .rar uncompression capability to the default archive manager in dapper"?
[10:52] <sinthetek> soundray: i was unable to use either
[10:52] <tapu> yeah...
[10:53] <mada> tapu: that will ask you for your password
[10:53] <SVisor> imacjack: Good to hear
[10:53] <Healot> !info unrar
[10:53] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[10:53] <sinthetek> soundray: i noticed this weeks ago
[10:53] <Healot> !info unrar-free
[10:53] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[10:53] <tapu> yeah..i m in
[10:53] <zamarronstein> help me!!!, please!!!
[10:53] <Healot> !ask
[10:53] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:53] <soundray> !helpme
[10:53] <sinthetek> soundray: on top of this, today i just noticed that kdesu kept giving me errors and wouldn't let me su
[10:53] <martinoc> what can I do about kernel panics? Dapper installs ok from alternate cd, but panics on boot.
[10:53] <sinthetek> until i modified /etc/sudoers to say 'adm' instead of 'admin'
[10:54] <achandra> zammoronstien: there might be hope...one sec
[10:54] <morphix> zamarronstein, instead of sayin "help me" ask the question or what u need help on
[10:54] <zamarronstein> i have a virus w32/Magister
[10:54] <elijah> xubuntu alternate cd install makes screen go blank when Configuring Xserver....ubuntu desktop installer hangs at "Edit partitions manually" step
[10:54] <tapu> mada...i m in...plz tell what next?
[10:54] <mada> tapu: click Search->All
[10:54] <elijah> no way to install dapper..
[10:54] <zamarronstein> and i don't know
[10:54] <soundray> martinoc: what does it do just before it panics?
[10:54] <scanner_X> UGH!!! I fucking hate myspace's servers.  Sorry, I know that was random, but its the closest thing I could get to yelling at the top of my lungs
[10:54] <morphix> how'd u get a virus on linux?
[10:54] <soundray> zamarronstein: wrong channel
[10:54] <zamarronstein> yes
[10:55] <mada> morphix: didn't know you could
[10:55] <tapu> yeah...
[10:55] <sinthetek> any chance of it *ever* getting documented? again, i spent about an hour before i could find the problem
[10:55] <tapu> then...plz
[10:55] <soundray> scanner_X: language! please help keep this channel G-rated
[10:55] <morphix> a win32 cant affect anything inside of linux
[10:55] <mada> tapu: then scroll down to "gxine" and lick the box next to it
[10:55] <morphix> it can be present in a .exe file
[10:55] <Healot> or U-rated
[10:55] <suspekt> scanner_X stop stalking 15 year olds!  jk
[10:55] <scanner_X> lol, okay
[10:55] <morphix> but wont infect anything
[10:55] <scanner_X> but i like 15 yr olds
[10:55] <soundray> sinthetek: I don't think your interpretation of what has happened is correct.
[10:55] <scanner_X> lol
[10:55] <zamarronstein> I run Aegis
[10:55] <Heiko_x92> Hello all!
[10:55] <scanner_X> jk jk
[10:55] <suspekt> haha
[10:55] <zamarronstein> and it has found it
[10:56] <tapu> i got it...now install it??
[10:56] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: do you use wine or cedega?
[10:56] <morphix> well delete the file,
[10:56] <zamarronstein> no
[10:56] <mada> tapu: and that should pop up a little thingy  click "mark for installation"
[10:56] <suspekt> anyone know about customizing the desktop?
[10:56] <mada> tapu: then click "apply"
[10:56] <sinthetek> soundray: so you are saying that ubuntu never changed the name of the admin group?
[10:56] <zamarronstein> i don't use it
[10:56] <suspekt> i know this is like linux101 kinda question... i just never messed with it befor
[10:56] <elijah> morphix xubuntu alternate cd install makes screen go blank when Configuring Xserver....ubuntu desktop installer hangs at "Edit partitions manually" step
[10:56] <shadeofgrey> okay i installed the free versionn and when i try to hit "extract here" in nautilus itr gives me the same error of not beinbh able to handle that archive type
[10:56] <sinthetek> soundray: is it supposed to be 'adm' or 'admin'?
[10:56] <mada> tapu: then a window will pop up, click "apply" there also
[10:56] <soundray> sinthetek: 'admin' afaik.
[10:56] <scanner_X> yes, i do have one, but its for me and my friends, not for meeting new people.  And Im mainly using it right now to promote my podcast
[10:57] <sinthetek> soundray: somehow both got into my /etc/groups and i didn't personally add either
[10:57] <elijah> soundray:   xubuntu alternate cd install makes screen go blank when Configuring Xserver....ubuntu desktop installer hangs at "Edit partitions manually" step
[10:57] <suspekt> shadeofgrey, right click on the rar file, and change the default app
[10:57] <morphix> elijah, have you booted the install using safe mode?
[10:57] <tapu> now it is downloading
[10:57] <shadeofgrey> suspekt:  thanks!
[10:57] <sinthetek> soundray: and 'admin' doesn't allow me administrative privileges
[10:57] <mada> .... jeebus synaptic sucks ... no wonder they are talking about making a new system for edgy ... dude, apt-get for the win
[10:57] <FeestBijtje> mada apt-get rules :P
[10:57] <mada> :)
[10:57] <tapu> now...waiting...shall let u know after downloading
[10:57] <achandra> zammoronstein: are you saying the Aegis found the virus and has quartined it?
[10:57] <mada> tapu: okies
[10:58] <sinthetek> my system works fine now, i am only here mentioning it in hopes of helping others with similar problems
[10:58] <zamarronstein> no
[10:58] <mada> tapu: should work like a charm, it will show up in Applications->Sound & Video->Gxine
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> suspekt:  theres no change defaulty app option..  you meran under propertiws?
[10:58] <achandra> what is the exact nature of the problem..try and describe it as best as you can ..
[10:58] <shadeofgrey> further more whats the actual unrar app called anyway?
[10:58] <tapu> any thing else need to do?
[10:58] <sinthetek> i will go remove myself from the adm group just to verify it
[10:59] <phpError> Anyone here know shit about ActionScript, and how to send a variable contents to a URL using the GET HTTP method?
[10:59] <ardchoille> tapu: you wanting to watch DVD's?
[10:59] <zamarronstein> i?
[10:59] <shadeofgrey> and does anybody know when adonbew is going to FIUNALLY release dflashplayer 9 for linux?
[10:59] <soundray> sinthetek: if you edit your user settings via the GUI, everything will be taken care of.
[10:59] <mada> tapu: you should just put in a dvd and enjoy
[11:00] <mada> tapu: try it out and let me know
[11:00] <achandra> zammoronstien: describe the problem..after the program found the virus..on a samba share..or what???
[11:00] <shadeofgrey> im so sicvk of not being able to view any flash 8 sites
[11:00] <suspekt> shadoefgray,  yeah thats what i ment...
[11:00] <ardchoille> mada: he'll probably need libdvdcss2
[11:00] <elijah> morphix: no....what will dat do? safe graphics mode?
[11:00] <mada> ardchoille: that's not a dependancy?
[11:00] <tapu> yeah...i want to watch movies in CD/DVD/MPG files
[11:00] <tapu> thanks mada
[11:00] <ardchoille> mada: nope, it can't be due to licensing
[11:00] <mada> no prob tapu
[11:00] <snoops> shadeofgrey next year apparently..aren't adobe fantastic?!
[11:01] <stefg> !DVD
[11:01] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:01] <mada> ardchoille: huh ... i don't remember needing it, but then again i don't remember what i had for lunch yesterday
[11:01] <Daniel0> is it possible to view windows shared folders in ubuntu?
[11:01] <morphix> elijah, i cant remember.. but when u put the cd in,, and it boots up it has 'advanced' options where it tells u what to type to boot into a safe "graphics" mode.
[11:01] <morphix> Daniel0, yes
[11:01] <Daniel0> morphix: how?
[11:02] <sambrista> Hi ! I've problems with XDMCP. after entering username and pass, it looks like it is starting to load (the moment before the splashscreen appears) and then the gray window with the X cursor is shown again. Can anyone help me?
[11:02] <sinthetek> soundray: www.mentalcases.net/adminprob
[11:02] <morphix> Daniel0, do u the default install with gnome?
[11:02] <Daniel0> morphix: yeah
[11:02] <shadeofgrey> snoops:  i saw a writeup oin their siter claiming 90 days after nine debuts for windows and mac users
[11:02] <sinthetek> soundray: what user settings via what gui?
[11:02] <suspekt> i mean somthing simple as changing the colors? where do i do that at?
[11:02] <zamarronstein> ok i will describe
[11:02] <morphix> Daniel0, in the "Places" section on the menu, there should be "connect to server"
[11:02] <Daniel0> morphix: yep
[11:02] <shadeofgrey> what i dont understand is why is it so hard to make a linuxc version if the os-x tiger version is already BSD?
[11:03] <elijah> ok....but how will safe graphics mode help?
[11:03] <mada> Daniel0: should click "Places->Networked Servers" and it will bring up "Windows Network"
[11:03] <snoops> shadeofgrey.. cool so another 3 months with the joy of flash 7
[11:03] <morphix> or that. lol
[11:03] <mada> morphix: if it is a windows share that is local, why the need to connect?
[11:03] <sinthetek> soundray: i normally use the system remotely, it is my little sister's system
[11:03] <shadeofgrey> ill be so glad when flash secven FINALLY gets replaced
[11:03] <mada> morphix: nvm :P
[11:03] <sinthetek> soundray: it added my little sister to the adm group but not myself
[11:03] <mada> samba FOR THE WIN
[11:03] <zamarronstein> i run Aegis, then it found w32/Magistra in vp31vfw.dllvp31vfw.dll
[11:03] <morphix> :)
[11:03] <soundray> sinthetek: how did you become root? Are you sure that $HOME as root is /root/ ?
[11:03] <BSoDirl> don't forget OSX is BSD+Mach...
[11:04] <sinthetek> root@wintergreen:~# pwd
[11:04] <sinthetek>  /root
[11:04] <Daniel0> mada: yeah there is, is it then possible to do it the other way around (viewing shares on my computer on a windows computer)?
[11:04] <C_REATiVE_> re
[11:04] <zamarronstein> my cable-modem, is sending forever now...
[11:04] <achandra> zammorstein: Aegis on windows or you found the blah.dll file while scanning from linux to a shared drive on windows?
[11:05] <mada> Daniel0: there is, but you have to download a prog ... but i haven't run windows in roughly 5 years so i wouldn't know what it is called to tell you what to download, but i have been told it is possible ...
[11:05] <zamarronstein> i don't have windows
[11:05] <mada> Daniel0: wait, dumb answer ... yes you can do it with samba
[11:05] <sinthetek> soundray: i believe the problem is that whatever update changed this only added the first user in /etc/passwd to the adm group rather than whoever was already in admin
[11:05] <zamarronstein> i have ubuntu only
[11:05] <Daniel0> mada: ok thanks
[11:05] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: how did you get a .dll file then?
[11:05] <achandra> zammornstien: that dll wont do jack crap then in linux....linux doesnt now shit about dlls
[11:06] <soundray> sinthetek: it is strange that you don't get a "Permission denied" error from the sudo touch command
[11:06] <mada> Daniel0: you should be able to just do a network share folder and you might need to do a config and click a "share with samba" or "windows network share" ... but it might just do it for you
[11:06] <soundray> sinthetek: erm, sorry, I've confused myself now.
[11:06] <Daniel0> mada: ok, i'll try that
[11:06] <achandra> ardchoille: agreed...as we both wait for the majic answer...
[11:06] <ardchoille> achandra: hehe
[11:07] <sinthetek> soundray: yes, for the first few days i thought remote x capability was broken somehow (first problem was trying to run sudo synaptic remotely)
[11:07] <mada> Daniel0: like, right click on the shared folder and see if there is something you need to change, but i am pretty sure ubuntu just shared folders over samba by default, which windows is friendly with
[11:07] <sinthetek> soundray: after a few days i realized 'sudo anything' wasn't working
[11:07] <soundray> sinthetek: so you went from breezy to dapper on that system -- did you run apt-get dist-upgrade to do that?
[11:07] <achandra> zamarronstein: are you running wine or something??
[11:07] <mada> annnnnnndddd brb
[11:07] <Daniel0> mada: do i possibly have to install something on windows? because it dont seem to work
[11:07] <zamarronstein> i don't running nothing
[11:08] <achandra> zamaroonstein: any open samba shares?
[11:08] <zamarronstein> pardon me, i don't run nothing
[11:08] <zamarronstein> no
[11:08] <sinthetek> soundray: hrm... i don't really recall the precise steps i took but i know i didn't use dist-upgrade. i know that i updated via synaptic a few times and apt-get upgrade
[11:08] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: if you're not running a windows emulator or vmware, then just delete that .dll file.. you can't use it anyway
[11:08] <achandra> then delete the damn thing..or just keep it there.. it wont do anything to Linux
[11:08] <zamarronstein> ok i found it now
[11:09] <zamarronstein> and i will delete
[11:09] <achandra> ardchoille: your comment needs to be  added to !winblowsviruses
[11:09] <achandra> lol
[11:09] <sinthetek> soundray: actually i don't think i upgraded from breezy... i think i started with dapper
[11:09] <ardchoille> achandra: lol
[11:09] <Gonzo_> i installer Xgl and now its like if gnome logoout whenever i go to screensaver or idle for too long
[11:09] <achandra> zmarronstein: yep...thats it..
[11:10] <tapu> mada...can u help me with flash player
[11:10] <sinthetek> i don't see any breezy sources in sources.list and i know i wouldn't have removed them. i always comment them out on my debian systems
[11:10] <achandra> zamarronstein: running a mail client on the linux box?
[11:10] <tapu> i have just dowloaded it from macromedia website...
[11:10] <ardchoille> achandra: you thinking he might have saved an attachment?
[11:11] <achandra> adchoille: that is pretty much my guess..
[11:11] <ardchoille> yeah
[11:11] <sinthetek> source.list has the same mtime as everything else. i didn't modify it at all, so yeah, i started with dapper
[11:11] <achandra> ardchoille: good deductive reasoning based on my shitty question....lol
[11:11] <soundray> sinthetek: anyway, there was certainly some anomaly in your group handling, but it'll be hard to reproduce. I haven't found any policy document on the groups yet, but I'm sure there is one somewhere.
[11:11] <mada> annnd back
[11:11] <ardchoille> achandra: :)
[11:11] <FeestBijtje> http://www.personalwireless.org/tools/aircrack/whax-aircrack-wep/whax-aircrack-wep.html
[11:11] <mada> tapu: don't download flash player from macromedia
[11:12] <addict3d> hello .. i have problems using scim .. can anybody help ?
[11:12] <mada> tapu: what processor does your computer have?
[11:12] <Healot> tapu: followed the install instruction?
[11:12] <zamarronstein> now i have a process zombie, hahaha... :S
[11:12] <soundray> elijah: still here?
[11:12] <sinthetek> soundray: do you have both adm and admin on your system?
[11:12] <tapu> p 3
[11:12] <ardchoille> sinthetek: I have them both
[11:13] <soundray> sinthetek: yes, and my users with admin rights are members of both.
[11:13] <mada> tapu: perfect ... ok, open a command line because it will be faster
[11:13] <achandra> which process?
[11:13] <zamarronstein> kde-config
[11:13] <sinthetek> hrm... weird. i guess it was more anomalous than i thought
[11:14] <achandra> kde-config id find it hard to believe is nothing associated with that dll...
[11:14] <achandra> how did you remove that file?....
[11:14] <zamarronstein> how i do this?
[11:14] <sinthetek> maybe i didn't add the second user to admin until after i had updated that time?
[11:15] <sinthetek> s/updated/upgraded
[11:15] <zamarronstein> no how i find it hard
[11:15] <sinthetek> that still doesn't explain why it was working and then stopped though
[11:15] <mada> wow ... ubuntuguide.org has most of the answers for questions i answer all the time around here ...
[11:15] <mada> we need to spam that out to users or something
[11:15] <tapu> mada...my previous plrbmm..i have downloaded the gxine...but its not apeared in the software menu
[11:15] <achandra> zammoronstien: how did you remove that file??
[11:16] <zamarronstein> i have finished this process now
[11:16] <achandra> okay
[11:16] <elijah> ya...waiting for any alternative solutions if urs dont work?
[11:16] <mada> tapu: thats a little strange ... :/
[11:16] <tapu> what would be files name in command prompt?
[11:16] <achandra> anybody have good experience with ldap authentication??
[11:16] <sinthetek> oh well, i suppose this info probably wasn't as helpful as i'd thought it would be, heh
[11:17] <ardchoille> Tape: which app did you install exactly?
[11:17] <sinthetek> you might encounter something similar at some point though i guess...
[11:17] <mada> tapu: prepare yourself for what is about to happen and log back into irc right after you are done, but i want you to hold this key combination and see if it is in the menu after it is done doing what it does, ok? ... hold "CTRL+ALT+BackSpace"
[11:17] <Tape> ardchoille, eh?
[11:17] <ardchoille> Tape: sorry, wrong nick
[11:17] <Tape> ah okay :)
[11:18] <sinthetek> what is the name of the admin group in your /etc/sudoers?
[11:18] <zamarronstein> why a viruses for windows, attack to linux?
[11:18] <cwillu> sinthetek: admin I believe
[11:18] <mada> ardchoille: i had tapu install gxine
[11:18] <sinthetek> i had to manually change mine to adm today to get kdesu to work
[11:18] <mada> zamarronstein: they don't
[11:18] <zamarronstein> a virus
[11:18] <Healot> zamarronstein: because they want to?
[11:19] <ardchoille> mada: if he had installed Xine, he would have a menu item and gxine would install too
[11:19] <addict3d> hello ??
[11:19] <soundray> sinthetek: I ran a little test just now -- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16740
[11:19] <sinthetek> wait, i *think* it worked
[11:19] <achandra> zammorstien: it doesnt...the better question to ask is how it got there...and I can only think of...YOU put it there...or mail...or open share...
[11:19] <mada> ardchoille: i know, thats why i thought it was strange ...
[11:19] <mada> welcome back tapu
[11:19] <achandra> !winblows
[11:19] <mada> tapu: any difference in the meny?
[11:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about winblows
[11:19] <achandra> damn
[11:19] <mada> menu*
[11:20] <soundray> !botabuse
[11:20] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[11:20] <mada> achandra: lol
[11:20] <tapu> thanks...I was thundered...I had unsaved work...any way...no difference in menu
[11:20] <zamarronstein> i installed ubuntu yesterday
[11:20] <zamarronstein> i did install ubuntu yesterday
[11:20] <mada> tapu: yeah, rgr ... i should have asked you if you have anything running
[11:20] <ardchoille> Tape: did you install xine or gxine?
[11:21] <tapu> let me tell u,. i already had totem , vlc, but none of them are working
[11:21] <zamarronstein> no, i did install php4, mysql, and phpmyadmin
[11:21] <mada> tapu: http://ubuntuguide.org ... step by step for flash player
[11:21] <tapu> no prb buddy...just google earth downloading...resume again
[11:21] <mada> tapu: yeah, totem won't play dvds ... you need gxine ...
[11:21] <tapu> no...plz...help me first with the dvd...
[11:21] <zamarronstein> and xmms, and mmm... totem3
[11:22] <ardchoille> tapu: did you install xine or gxine?
[11:22] <Healot> !restrictedformat
[11:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about restrictedformat
[11:22] <tapu> gxine
[11:22] <zamarronstein> codecs for totem
[11:22] <Healot> !restricted
[11:22] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:22] <soundray> !restricted
[11:22] <mada> tapu: hit "ALT+F2" and then type "gxine" in that menu and hit "run" and see if it opens anything
[11:22] <ardchoille> mada: he needs to install xine
[11:22] <tapu> whats the filename in command line...may be i can get it from command prompt
[11:23] <mada> ardchoille: blargh ..
[11:23] <Healot> !info xine
[11:23] <ubotu> Package xine does not exist in dapper
[11:23] <Healot> !info libxine
[11:23] <ubotu> Package libxine does not exist in dapper
[11:23] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[11:23] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[11:23] <Healot> damn
[11:23] <soundray> !info xine-uui
[11:23] <mada> tapu: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  <---for all your Dapper needs
[11:23] <ubotu> Package xine-uui does not exist in dapper
[11:23] <soundray> !info xine-ui
[11:23] <ubotu> xine-ui: the xine video player, user interface. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99.4-0ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 1567 kB, installed size 3512 kB
[11:24] <sinthetek> ok, well nevermind then i suppose
[11:24] <ardchoille> the package xine most certainly *does* exist in dapper, I installed it.
[11:24] <mada> tapu: that link is very good and very step by step
[11:24] <soundray> Healot: check out 'apt-cache search xine'
[11:24] <zamarronstein> i was user for suse
[11:24] <sinthetek> i dunno what happened exactly now, heh
[11:24] <tapu> i got it
[11:24] <sinthetek> so am i always going to have to use special gui tools for everything or what?
[11:24] <mada> zamarronstein: you tried SLED10?
[11:24] <tapu> but it is not plaing wmv
[11:25] <soundray> sinthetek: either that, or you have to know exactly what you're doing.
[11:25] <mada> tapu: you need codecs for wmv ... its a windows format
[11:25] <sinthetek> the ubuntu way :P
[11:25] <tapu> oow
[11:25] <zamarronstein> no, what is this?
[11:25] <sinthetek> ok, thanks
[11:25] <mada> zamarronstein: SuSE Linux Enterprise 10 ... the RC3 just got released for beta testing download
[11:26] <zamarronstein> :O
[11:26] <mada> zamarronstein: i just saw you mention you were a suse user, just wondering if you had tried it
[11:26] <zamarronstein> no
[11:26] <zamarronstein> i did have SUSE9
[11:26] <mada> zamarronstein: its supposed to be nice ... but it lacks apt, so i will never run it .... debian and debian based distros own
[11:26] <mada> zamarronstein: suse9 wasn't half bad
[11:26] <ardchoille> mada: indeed :)
[11:27] <Nickname> hi
[11:27] <mada> ardchoille: i have the debian swirl tattooed on me :) ... i literally live by it
[11:27] <Healot> I invented SuSE because I am German, hohoho
[11:27] <tapu> :(...is there any way to run wmv??
[11:27] <Seveas> !wmv
[11:28] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:28] <tapu> cause all my saving videos are in wmv...
[11:28] <ardchoille> mada: Wow, a debian tatoo.. that's way cool :)
[11:28] <Healot> tapu: the best with Windows Media Player
[11:28] <zamarronstein> i want try mandrake or mandriva
[11:28] <Nickname> oh, this is the first time I ever been in a IRC channel =)
[11:28] <tapu> ;)
[11:28] <Seveas> hi Nickname 
[11:28] <Nickname> my nick name doesnt works :(
[11:28] <MeTa[AwAy] > how can i set up the lmsensors for exec a script if cpu temperature goes high?
[11:28] <tapu> but i m using...linux......
[11:28] <mada> ardchoille: yeah, it was just kinda something i did during my hardcore debian days, but now that i am in college and do software development, i think it was a good choice
[11:28] <Nickname> its suppose to be Philip
[11:28] <zamarronstein> but i like me very much ubuntu :D
[11:28] <Seveas> Nickname, someone else already uses that nickname
[11:29] <tapu> so...is there any chance to run wmv in linux?
[11:29] <Nickname> okej
[11:29] <Seveas> !wmv > tapu
[11:29] <Nickname> im going to change then...
[11:29] <Seveas> tapu, ubotu sent you a message
[11:29] <mada> ardchoille: hardcore debian days during high school*
[11:29] <Nickname> so=
[11:29] <MetAA> !lmsensors
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about lmsensors
[11:29] <MetAA> !lm-sensors
[11:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about lm-sensors
[11:29] <zamarronstein> ubuntu is based in debian?
[11:29] <Zoby> Hello everybody
[11:29] <Nickname> do I have to reload or something now?
[11:29] <mada> bleh ... its 4:#0am and i have summer session tomorrow
[11:29] <Seveas> zamarronstein, yes
[11:29] <Nickname> i have change my nick
[11:30] <CrashProne> Anybody know how I can easily(ish) set up ipv6 tunneling from behind my router? :-P
[11:30] <mada> zamarronstein: sure is, its a snap shot of their sid branch
[11:30] <volt^warlock> Just to pimp the channel up with the new horror movie being released next month: http://www.stuffonmycat.com/media/2/20050916-Q.jpg
[11:30] <volt^warlock> OK you can continue now
[11:30] <volt^warlock> :>
[11:30] <zamarronstein> aptitude is the best
[11:31] <CrashProne> It IS!
[11:31] <[Swe] Philip> hi
[11:31] <Seveas> hi [Swe] Philip
[11:31] <[Swe] Philip> bye
[11:31] <Seveas> lol
[11:31] <ardchoille> Seveas: that was a drive-by greeting :)
[11:31] <Seveas> heh
[11:31] <CrashProne> I never used Debian-style stuff until Ubuntu-- I originally had been kinda repulsed just based on the fact that Debian itself seemed to only come in so many CDs..
[11:32] <Healot> this is the McD drive-thru channel
[11:32] <zamarronstein> there are mexican distros?
[11:33] <soundray> Healot: Welcome to #ubuntu. Your order please?
[11:33] <mada> CrashProne: debian is meant to be installed via the net and a small boot image ... normal debian install for me took between 50 and 130MB of download for the boot image, depending on which one i wanted, the rest was automically downloaded on the fly during install
[11:33] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: http://distrowatch.com/  There are lots of distros, but Ubuntu is the best ;)
[11:33] <zamarronstein> yes ubuntu is the bes :D
[11:33] <zamarronstein> best
[11:33] <CrashProne> Ah. :-P
[11:33] <GreySim> CrashProne, I know what you mean.  I noticed the pre-release of SLED yesterday, and was gonna download it.  Then I saw that it was *5* CDs.  o.o
[11:33] <zamarronstein> i have windows too, but, is terrible
[11:33] <suspekt> http://distrowatch.com/   democratically elected ubuntu
[11:34] <mada> ardchoille: ubuntu is the best for the desktop ... but it will never touch my server's boot menu
[11:34] <mada> ahhh!!!!!
[11:34] <ardchoille> hehe
[11:34] <Seveas> rofl
[11:34] <mp3guy> ha
[11:35] <mada> but in all seriousness ... debian stable branch for servers is so stable you can digital bricks at it all day long and it laughs at you
[11:35] <Healot> mp3guy: you're proprietary
[11:35] <mada> throw digital bricks*
[11:35] <mp3guy> proprietary?
[11:35] <mada> wow ... that sounded good in my mind ...
[11:35] <mada> Healot: how does that make sense?
[11:35] <Seveas> mp3guy, Ubuntu has been at least as stable for me as Debian on 15 servers :)
[11:36] <Seveas> ehrm, mada i mean
[11:36] <ardchoille> lol Seveas
[11:37] <mada> Seveas: i've never said that ubuntu isn't stable enough for a server, but debian has never failed me so i won't switch
[11:37] <mada> lol
[11:37] <ardchoille> Seveas: how do you do that strange smiley?
[11:37] <zamarronstein> do you have had windows anytime?
[11:37] <Seveas> mada, true that, if I started with debian on those servers there really is no reason to switch
[11:37] <Healot> Seveas: how much hit to your repos site? just wondering how popular 3rd party repos is
[11:37] <mada> Seveas: i just use ubuntu for the desktop out of ease of use and everything the development community has done for the linux desktop in terms of debian
[11:37] <Seveas> Healot, wouldn't know. I don't get stats from the mirrors
[11:38] <Seveas> but apparently it's prett popular
[11:38] <ardchoille> zamarronstein: I haven't used a Windows OS since 1996
[11:38] <Healot> I am using Windows since 1996 :)
[11:38] <hybrid> lol
[11:38] <mp3guy> I've used MacOS7 since 1992
[11:38] <mada> Seveas: i actually have only been on ubuntu since dapper came out because i just built my new amd64 box and thought i would give it a shot ... and for the desktop, i have no reason to ever switch
[11:39] <CrashProne> My mom uses Ubuntu..  mostly because I'm a jerk, but it still works out pretty well nonetheless.
[11:39] <mp3guy> same here
[11:39] <zamarronstein> in linux i learn more
[11:39] <mp3guy> I said "No more windows" to the family pc, and so far so happy
[11:40] <mada> wow ... the ubuntu hpd on distrowatch.com really are dominating
[11:40] <mada> zamarronstein: in linux, you are a better computer user
[11:40] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> hi everybody
[11:40] <Seveas> mada, ubuntu was number one in the yearly stats 6 months after it was borm
[11:40] <hybrid> learning is fun
[11:40] <Seveas> born*
[11:40] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I just have a serious problem installing Linux.. not only Ubuntu...
[11:41] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> can you guys help me? ..maybe you already faced these problems
[11:41] <mp3guy> what is it
[11:41] <Healot> how serious?
[11:41] <mada> Seveas: yeah, i have a friend who has sworn by it since version 4.x and i just finally took his advice with the dapper release and i love it
[11:41] <Healot> !ask
[11:41] <hybrid> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: if you ask ;)
[11:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:41] <Seveas> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs, please be more specidic 
[11:41] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> thx ;o) I'll describe
[11:41] <Seveas> urgh, could someone hand me a spellchecker...
[11:41] <andyjeffries> I don't know if my last message came through (I got a timeout just after posting it), so I'll repost it (sorry for the repeat if it did come through)
[11:41] <mada> Seveas: have you ever done an "apt-get dist-upgrade" under ubuntu?
[11:41] <hybrid> Seveas: apt-cache search spell
[11:41] <andyjeffries> How do I get CUPS to be open to my internal network?  I've got "Allow From 192.168.2.0/24" in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf and "Allow 192.168.2.0/24" within the Location / portion, restarted cups by another machine on the network still can't open the page.
[11:42] <ardchoille> mada: I've done that a number of times
[11:42] <mada> ardchoille: any issues?
[11:42] <Seveas> mada, I use it since warty almost without reinstalling (only time I needed that was when I rm -rf'ed /var/lob)
[11:42] <ardchoille> mada: no, why would there be issues?
[11:42] <Seveas> /var/lib*
[11:42] <gavinchappell> andyjeffries: I think you might have to change the allow/deny order? should be set to allow/deny rather than deny/allow, I think
[11:42] <dsas> Does anyone know what ~/.local/share/mime is ?
[11:43] <mada> ardchoille: don't know ... i had never had any issued doing so in debian, but i had heard somewhere it was kinda broken in ubuntu ... but maybe it was a special case
[11:43] <zamarronstein> yes, i didn't know the process, and others things... and i learn to read english hahaha...
[11:43] <dsas> it's owned by root and is in my homedir
[11:43] <Seveas> dsas, a place where gnome looks for mietype information
[11:43] <andyjeffries> gavinchappell: I've got the BrowseOrder set to Allow,Deny and the Order within Location / to be Allow,Deny.
[11:43] <soundray> How do I exit hexedit pls?
[11:43] <ardchoille> mada: apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't upgrade from one Ubuntu release to the next unless you change your sources.list
[11:43] <mada> Seveas: ouch ... i did that once back in the redhat7.x days with /dev and nothing functioned ..
[11:43] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I have a P3 PC, 8.4 GB Seagate HDD, 512 MB SD RAM, LG CD-ROM, HDD and ODD on a separate IDE cable.. when I try to install Linux (tried with Ubuntu 5.10, CentOS), the installer crashes when partitioning.. sometimes even reboots
[11:43] <Seveas> soundray, install a hexeditor 
[11:43] <mada> ardchoille: yeah, rgr
[11:44] <hybrid> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: looked into damn small linux?
[11:44] <Seveas> mada, in ubuntu a reboot would solve it nowadays (udev instead of devfs)
[11:44] <dsas> Seveas: Ok, it'll presumably regenerate if I get rid of it then. It's annoying setting up a bzr controlled homedir and having permission errors.
[11:44] <mada> ardchoille: my bad ... anyhoo, if you update the sources does it have any problems?
[11:44] <soundray> Seveas: I have, it's running, it won't let me exit...
[11:44] <soundray> oh, F10 worked...
[11:44] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> hybrid ?
[11:44] <Seveas> soundray, which editor?
[11:44] <mada> Seveas: ahhhh, thats right ... forgot about the union stuffs
[11:44] <hybrid> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: it is a distro made for under powered systems
[11:44] <ardchoille> mada: Don't know, never done it that way. I always do a fresh install of new distro releases.
[11:44] <gavinchappell> andyjeffries: I don't know then I'm afraid :|
[11:44] <mada> ardchoille: hrmmm...
[11:45] <hybrid> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: under powered and older systems
[11:45] <andyjeffries> gavinchappell: Is there any default firewall in Ubuntu that may be blocking it?  I can access Samba from the network...
[11:45] <gavinchappell> mada: I dist-upgraded from Breezy to Dapper Flight something and had no problems with the upgrade process
[11:45] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> erm... okay.. so what's the prob ?
[11:45] <stefg> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: Do have a halfway recent BIOS on tht machine? Sounds like Linx and the Bios cannot agree on your harddisk-geometry
[11:45] <mada> Seveas: after every ubuntu release, do you just point your sources to the new branch and apt-get dist-upgrade with complete success?
[11:45] <zamarronstein> how upgrade ubuntu 5.10 to ubuntu dapper?
[11:45] <gavinchappell> mada: some of the packages were broken when I got them, but the upgrade itself went fine
[11:45] <mada> gavinchappell: sweet
[11:45] <soundray> Thanks Seveas. It was hexedit from the package by that same name.
[11:45] <Seveas> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs, if the partitioner crashes, I have the strong suspicion that your harddisk is broken
[11:45] <hybrid> zamarronstein: are you using Gnome?
[11:45] <Seveas> zamarronstein, with the updatemanager (gksudo update-manager)
[11:45] <zamarronstein> yes
[11:45] <mada> gavinchappell: was it hard to fix the packages?
[11:46] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> Seveas,... I'm sure that it's not broken
[11:46] <gavinchappell> andyjeffries: there is no firewall in Ubuntu by default, so it shouldn't be
[11:46] <hybrid> zamarronstein: as Seveas said gksudo update-manager
[11:46] <Seveas> mada, did that for warty->hoary and hoary->breezy
[11:46] <CrashProne> Out of curiosity, anybody here feel like they liked XFce 4.2 better than 4.4?
[11:46] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I tried with 3 different HDDs...
[11:46] <soundray> gavinchappell: of course there is a firewall in Ubuntu by default. It's called iptables and it's part of the kernel.
[11:46] <mada> Seveas: awesome ... thats what i was curious about
[11:46] <Seveas> mada, for breezy->dapper I used the update-manager gui, which basically does the same
[11:46] <gavinchappell> mada: I just dist-upgraded every so often during the Dapper development cycle
[11:46] <gavinchappell> soundray: it is there, but it isn't configured
[11:46] <zamarronstein> form console true
[11:46] <Seveas> but with 2 mouseclicks instead of editing files
[11:46] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I had windows on them, they were working for years.. and they are not broken.. I checked...
[11:46] <mada> Seveas: yeah ... gui or cli ... still does same stuff
[11:46] <a_l_e> !locale
[11:46] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LocaleConf
[11:47] <Seveas> mada, well, the gui does more
[11:47] <gavinchappell> everything is allowed through, as Ubuntu doesn't have any listening services by default, so it's not needed
[11:47] <mada> gavinchappell: ahhhh ok, so you upgraded before the official release?
[11:47] <gavinchappell> mada: yeah, I did
[11:47] <Seveas> mada, it disables 3rd party repos just to be sure and does dpkg --configure -a if things break and more nifty things
[11:47] <mada> Seveas: meh ... whatever guis annoy me for package management
[11:47] <mada> gavinchappell: cool cool
[11:47] <Seveas> hehe, normally I don't use guis for that either
[11:47] <Seveas> but this thing really impressed me
[11:47] <soundray> gavinchappell: that's right. But the thing about "not having a firewall" is a highly popular piece of anti-Linux FUD.
[11:48] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> and the BIOS is quite new... it was working with windows XP, 120 GB HDD.. etc...
[11:48] <Aviatrixie> 2323I like cfxe period.... just don't like how ther x team left out user friendlyness for us linux newbs
[11:48] <zamarronstein> and is it all for upgrade?
[11:48] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> so, any other idea?
[11:48] <stefg> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: have a careful look at the BIOS-settings, the reported C/H/S geometry and that LBA is on
[11:48] <gavinchappell> soundray: OK, I didn't term it very well. There is a firewall present, but out of the box on Ubuntu it doesn't do anything
[11:48] <mada> Seveas: guis just always seem to bother my for package management, suse's yast2 was probably the closest to one i would use ... but synaptic is aggrivating at best in my opinion
[11:48] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I already did...
[11:48] <uNople> would you guys recommend a particular IPTables tutorial? there's a lot out there, and the ones I've seen leave me not understanding them...
[11:49] <mada> Seveas: heard rumor of a completely new package management tool coming in the Edgy release
[11:49] <Seveas> mada, synaptic is [censored comment] , update-manager is better
[11:49] <zamarronstein> and is it all for upgrade?
[11:49] <soundray> Seveas: can you point me to a policy document that details the roles of the different groups in /etc/group?
[11:49] <Seveas> mada, there are plans to integrate smart
[11:49] <soundray> Seveas: please?
[11:49] <ardchoille> mada: new package manager?
[11:49] <Seveas> soundray, no...
[11:49] <ardchoille> I wonder if it is SmartPM
[11:49] <Seveas> it's probably part of the debian policy
[11:49] <Seveas> ardchoille, it is
[11:49] <soundray> Seveas: okay, I'll write one then when I have time...
[11:50] <ardchoille> Seveas: ah, thought it might be. I used SmartPM on Mandriva and Fedora and loved it
[11:50] <Aviatrixie> may I ask a simple question?
[11:50] <Seveas> Aviatrixie, no, only complicated questions are allowed ;)
[11:50] <ardchoille> lol
[11:50] <Aviatrixie> LOL@Seveas  ;)
[11:50] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I also remember, that it always crashed when reaching 4GB at partitioning... no matter which HDD I used (6.7, 8.4, 5 GB)
[11:50] <mada> ardchoille: new gui application i think
[11:51] <zamarronstein> and is it all for upgrade?
[11:51] <mada> Seveas: wait ... do we have to use their smart thing or can i still use apt-get?
[11:51] <mada> ardchoille: nvm, didn't read
[11:51] <grte> apt-get still works fine.
[11:51] <Seveas> mada, if they force smartpm instead of apt, lots of people will leave
[11:51] <Seveas> so they won't ;)
[11:51] <ardchoille> mada: the devs will probably make SmartPM the default but still include apt
[11:52] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> so do you have any other idea, excluding broken HDD, and BIOS stuff ?
[11:52] <mada> Seveas: i will, in a hurry ... and then i will spam the planet against ubuntu
[11:52] <gavinchappell> apt is only a backend though isn't it? that's the point of apt, you can interface to it however you like (ie synaptic, gnome-update-manager, etc)
[11:52] <mada> ardchoille: ok
[11:52] <POVaddct> according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer, mplayer is in multiverse on dapper. i added multiverse, did apt-get update but apt-get install mplayer can't find it
[11:52] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> it seems to be sure that it's some hardware based prob...
[11:52] <mada> gavinchappell: i thought so ...
[11:53] <CrashProne> How do I setup an ipv6 tunnel through my router?
[11:53] <mada> Seveas: wouldn't smart just be an interface to apt?
[11:53] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> because it'S doing it with different linux distros
[11:53] <ardchoille> gavinchappell: yes, apt is the back end.. Synaptic is a ui front end
[11:53] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> so ?
[11:53] <gavinchappell> so it's more likely that SmartPM just runs apt/yum/rpm behind the scenes anyway
[11:53] <Seveas> mada, apt is one of the backends smart can use
[11:53] <gavinchappell> therefore people who prefer apt would still be able to use it even if SmartPM was included, no need to leave?
[11:54] <zamarronstein> i'm upgrading now
[11:54] <mada> Seveas: ooohhh ok, then they can put it in there .... i won't touch it the same way i don't touch synaptic
[11:54] <zamarronstein> :D
[11:54] <Lynoure> CrashProne: Linux router or a router appliance? (not about to answer now, busy, just asking to make it easier for others to answer)
[11:54] <mada> gavinchappell: yup :) ... then i will stay
[11:54] <ardchoille> lol @ mada
[11:54] <mada> :)
[11:54] <stefg> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: are you able to boot a linux Live-CD?
[11:54] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> yupp
[11:54] <CrashProne> I need a tunnel from my personal computer over my whatever little box router, to the intarweb.
[11:55] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> tried with Knoppix
[11:55] <mada> give it a year and when a friend is like "dude, i need this app and i can't find it" and i use apt-get, i will look uber leet because the front end will have changed so much by then
[11:55] <stefg> LiFeX-TH-7-Cs: would be interesting to see the outputs of dmesg, lspci and cat /proc/partitions
[11:55] <soundray> Is there a way of activating emacs key combinations in gnome and/or gedit?
[11:55] <ardchoille> mada: all my friends and family run Ubuntu now
[11:56] <Aviatrixie> ok... I'll jump in... as a longtime (as in several decades) computer user, I recently jumped ship to Ubuntu Linux. I discovered Automatix and it worked perfectly for me. I met someone here tonight who sort of convinced me that I should shun Automatix and use Easy Ubuntu on my new install. On Breezy Automatix worked perfectly for me. After my chat with my new online friend I suspect I'm about to throw an angry cat into a pit of
[11:56] <Aviatrixie>  rabit hounds, but I'd like your opinion. Seriously... Automatix worked perfectly for me the last time. Is it THAT bad?!!!
[11:56] <Lynoure> CrashProne: if it is a appliance type of router (a little box you have bought) then the answer is found in it's documentation or support site for the decive
[11:56] <mada> ardchoille: sweet!
[11:56] <CrashProne> Hm
[11:56] <Seveas> Aviatrixie, yes it is, the amount of reinstalls it caused is reaching large numbers
[11:56] <soundray> ardchoille: same here ;) Even my hardcore Knoppix fan little brother has switched now
[11:56] <algor> who know help of wpa2 install in ubuntu drapper 6
[11:56] <Lynoure> CrashProne: it might also not support IPv6, some don't.
[11:56] <ardchoille> soundray: that's awesome!
[11:57] <martii> Seveas: hi is there any way gettingflah for amd64?
[11:57] <mada> ardchoille: my mom runs windows because she is a teacher and the software she uses at work is some random ass proprietary crap for windows and my dad runs windows because he is so nUb he won't get away from AOhelL ... and here i sit in my loft on the square right off campus with my wonderful ubuntu box on a cable net connection
[11:57] <martii> Seveas: hi is there any way getting flash for amd64?
[11:57] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> I recognized another problem... I installed 4 * 128 MB RAM, and the BIOS checks only 48x MB at startup..... could that be the problem?
[11:57] <stefg> yes
[11:57] <Seveas> martii, only with some weird workarounds with installing 32bit-firefox in a chroot
[11:57] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> sh*t
[11:58] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> ;P
[11:58] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> that's the problem with old computers
[11:58] <stefg> Linux is much more sensible to bad RAM than windoze is
[11:58] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> 4 different RAMs ;o)
[11:58] <soundray> martii: check out gnash - still alpha, but said to be quite good
[11:58] <martii> Seveas: yep that's what I found out I need to replace my 64bit version with 32bit one
[11:58] <algor> !wpa
[11:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:58] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> 2 single sided, 2 double-
[11:58] <algor> !wpa2
[11:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about wpa2
[11:58] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> 4 different vendors
[11:58] <Seveas> !wpa2 is <alias> wifi
[11:58] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[11:58] <mada> martii: there is some weird stuffs ... but i don't recommend it ... i am on amd64 and i just plan to wait it out until the linux community ports it over or macromedia just wises up to the times
[11:58] <grte> Does gnash work on amd64?
[11:58] <martii> soundray: does it play latest flash?
[11:59] <ardchoille> mada: I build computers, install Ubuntu, then donate them. I have also helped over 100 friends (and 16 businesses) install and learn to use Ubuntu.
[11:59] <soundray> grte: yes
[11:59] <mjr> grte, reportedly yes, as much as it works
[11:59] <Seveas> martii, for flash8 you need windows firefox in wine
[11:59] <soundray> martii: I haven't tried
[11:59] <ardchoille> I'm killing Micro$oft one user at a time ;)
[11:59] <Seveas> there is no flash 8 for linux yet
[11:59] <grte> Might be worth trying, then.  Less of a hassle then trying to install flash-nonfree.
[11:59] <martii> mada: I'll install 32bit version as I keep home on separate partition
[11:59] <mada> ardchoille: you are a saint to the cause
[11:59] <jimcooncat> looking for webcam docs for dapper, link please?
[11:59] <mada> martii: fair enough
[11:59] <martii> mada: I have the same problem with skype that is popular among my firends
[11:59] <soundray> ardchoille: keep it up -- only a few hundred million to go...
[12:00] <mada> martii: ahhh yes, the all mighty skype ...
[12:00] <ardchoille> lol soundray
[12:00] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> okay, thx for the help, everyone
[12:00] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> cheers
[12:00] <martii> mada: and with all other binary software (today tried slides scanner and It want's 32bit stuff)
[12:00] <LiFeX-TH-7-Cs> ;P
[12:00] <soundray> martii: any reason you don't want to install i386 on your box?
[12:00] <martii> soundray: that's what I do at the moment :)
[12:00] <stefg> That's probably your Problem. You could try to swap the RAM around. If the kernel isn't recognizing the right amount of RAM there's the 'mem' boot-option to set it manually
[12:01] <mada> ardchoille: i am trying to spread the penguin ghospel but i am also trying to be rational about who i hand linux to .... don't want to become a 24/7 tech support for those i just converted
[12:01] <martii> soundray: amd64 is great but for server not for workstation
[12:01] <grte> Oh, hey, I run an athlon 64 33500+ with 32-bit dapper installation.  What would be the best kernel for me?
[12:01] <gavinchappell> grte: linux-k7 I think
[12:01] <mada> martii: i run amd64 on my workstation and it is perfect
[12:01] <grte> Okay, that's what I thought.
[12:01] <soundray> martii: it rocks for some memory intensive image processing I do
[12:01] <mada> grte: yeah ... linux-k7 ... because k8 == amd64
[12:01] <martii> soundray: with what? GIMP?
[12:01] <martii> soundray: it's unable to process 16 bits per channel images
[12:02] <mada> martii: all i really do on a computer is web, email, and code
[12:02] <grte> I've got an amd64 processor, though.
[12:02] <martii> soundray: useless for me
[12:02] <grte> It's still only useful running 64-bit dapper, though?
[12:02] <mada> grte: i know, but you want to run in 32-bit right?
[12:02] <soundray> martii: not gimp. Custom software.
[12:02] <martii> mada: yep but I can see google video, i can use skype i can use slides scanner software
[12:02] <grte> That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure.
[12:02] <martii> mada: none of those works out of the box
[12:03] <mada> grte: the kernel that is k7 will just treat it as a 32-bit athlon-xp (the same way windows runs on amd64 processors)
[12:03] <soundray> martii: are you sure gimp still has that restriction?
[12:03] <ardchoille> mada: do what I did, put together a CD package of support/information links, irc channels, websites and the like. Then give that CD to anyone whom you install for. That cuts down on the amount of time they want your help.
[12:03] <grte> I have a spare partition that's been waiting for something, I think I may give dapper64 a try.
[12:03] <martii> Seveas: is there any way I can deactivate this funny panel when I want to restart my computer?
[12:03] <mada> martii: nice ... i actually don't use any of those, so all of my functionality is an "out of box experience" ... and it is also very much so a per user thing
[12:04] <mada> ardchoille: ooooo, good idea
[12:04] <martii> Seveas: in breezy I just pushed power buton and computer was shutting donw
[12:04] <martii> Seveas: not it's asking about all thi hibernation and stuff
[12:04] <soundray> mada: do you know of any reason not to compile&run a kernel with k8 support in an otherwise i386 system?
[12:04] <mada> ardchoille: i should look into doing something like that and be like "here is your resource cd, consult it for questions before calling me"
[12:04] <ardchoille> mada: yep :)
[12:04] <martii> mada: it's great for server when there is no browser involed, etc
[12:05] <martii> mada: but I need some multimedia stuf and it's not ported
[12:05] <martii> yet
[12:05] <mada> soundray: yes, because if you compile k8 support for an i386 it will try to use 64-bit functions on a 32-bit processor ... and i'm pretty sure it would freak out and not boot
[12:05] <mada> martii: agreed
[12:05] <mada> jeebus its 5am already!!!!
[12:05] <mada> it was just midnight like 2 minutes ago, what happened
[12:05] <mada> ?*
[12:06] <grte> mada: The theory of relativity
[12:06] <soundray> mada: no, what I mean is: install Ubuntu-i386 on an AMD64 machine, then compile a kernel with k8 support to go with it.
[12:06] <ardchoille> mada: hahahaha
[12:06] <mada> soundray: then none of your packages work because they are all 32-bit and your kernel is now 64-bit
[12:06] <ardchoille> mada: you're two hours ahead of me, tells me about where you might be located
[12:06] <mada> soundray: what happens is that your processor is now accessing memory with 64-bit addresses instead of 32-bit and the software doesn't work
[12:07] <mada> ardchoille: Texas :)
[12:07] <mada> ardchoille: you in Cali?
[12:07] <ardchoille> mada: Seattle, WA
[12:07] <soundray> mada: thanks
[12:07] <mada> ardchoille: rgr
[12:07] <grte> Man...Rhythmbox is acting up in a bad way, lately.
[12:07] <mada> soundray: no prob :)
[12:08] <grte> It'll be playing away fine, then all of a sudden it'll just start skipping through the songs, unable to read any of them.
[12:09] <Aviatrixie> my sound juicer is performing perfectly. Listenning to Marc Cohn now.  ;)
[12:09] <mada> soundray: because say you have a 32-bit peice of software try to access a 32-bit memory address at address 0x12345678 but it is now known as 0x1234567800000000 because of the 64-bit conversion .. the software crashes ... (i doubt those memory adresses are valid, but you get the idea :) )
[12:10] <ardchoille> mada: Texas? Wow, lots of my IRC friends are in Texas. I lived in Temple and Killeen for a while.
[12:10] <jimcooncat> Killeen no fun for me
[12:10] <toed> hi, is there a program I can use to extract a .sit archive in ubuntu?
[12:10] <mada> ardchoille: oh ok ... i grew up in Houston, but i am at Sam Houston State University in Huntsville right now working on my undergrad in computer science and then on to my grad work in digital forensics
[12:10] <soundray> mada: but some i386 software works on amd64 installations using 32-bit libraries, doesn't it? Like openoffice
[12:11] <Aviatrixie> never heard of sound juicer or rythmn box til I moved to Linux a few months ago. Works pretty well, actually.
[12:11] <Seveas> soundjuicer is great
[12:11] <ardchoille> mada: Whoa! That's cool :)
[12:11] <mada> soundray: yes, but its kinda an emulation/conversion that is happening there
[12:11] <Seveas> daap is nice on large university wifi nets
[12:11] <darkbla> how many good people
[12:11] <darkbla> good morning
[12:12] <SaTaN`_> where could i get GLIB?
[12:12] <salah> how can I create a ISO file from a CDROM?
[12:12] <Remorse_> you tell me ;)
[12:12] <soundray> salah: 'dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso'
[12:12] <grte> salah: cat /path/to/cdrom > image.iso
[12:13] <mada> soundray: you can just do an apt-get install <32-bit app> on an amd64 machine because it will likely crash if you try to run it, but if you install it and then go into the config files and point certain libraries from /lib/blah to /lib32/blah they work (also not valid libs, just another example)
[12:13] <pluffsy_> hi
[12:13] <ArtistAgent> hello pluffsy
[12:14] <mada> soundray: i have cedega4.2-i386 running on my amd64 so i can play warcraft3 and i had to do some dpkg forcing and then edit config files before it would run
[12:14] <martii> so is there any method for removing this shut down box? that is asking hat to do? I want computer to shut down when I press power button in my computer case
[12:14] <martii> not to ask me what to do as I know what I want to do :)
[12:14] <salah> grte, that one don't work
[12:14] <pluffsy_> don't know if this is considered OT, sorry in that case, but what quiet good looking linux hardware do you recommend? I'm a mac user so I don't know much about pc hardware (I know I can run ubuntu on a mac, but I rather not) I've been looking at shuttle.com. are there any other you recommend?
[12:14] <SaTaN`_> where could i get GLIB?
[12:14] <Aviatrixie> It's funny, sevea... since I opted to do a clean upgrade to dapper I'm sitting here with no proprietary codecs or software. It's pretty much a pristine install that embodies the Ubuntu philosophy. If I run Automatix, Easy Ubuntu, or even BUMPS it sorta changes all of that.
[12:15] <soundray> martii: the power button behaviour is configured in /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> i wanted to install xmms, and got this error ->
[12:15] <morphix> whats a good client for MPD which supports a LOT of music in the playlist??
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> checking for GLIB - version >= 1.2.2... no
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
[12:15] <SaTaN`_> *** full path to glib-config.
[12:15] <tapu> can any one help me with flash ?
[12:15] <salah> soundray, that don't work either
[12:16] <passwordddd> hello guys
[12:16] <mada> SaTaN`_: no flood please
[12:16] <void^> SaTaN`_: why would you want to compile xmms from source?
[12:16] <gavinchappell> SaTaN`_: you shouldn't need to compile
[12:16] <tiagoboldt> SaTaN`_: apt-get install xmms
[12:16] <SaTaN`_> hehe thnx :))
[12:16] <passwordddd> how can i get a driver for my soundcard?
[12:16] <passwordddd> my ubuntu doesnt have the driver for it
[12:16] <passwordddd> damn
[12:16] <mada> passwordddd: what kind of soundcard?
[12:16] <tapu> can any one help me with flash ?
[12:16] <soundray> !doesn't work
[12:16] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[12:16] <passwordddd> ess
[12:16] <passwordddd> es1688
[12:16] <tiagoboldt> LOL
[12:17] <Aviatrixie> xmms is a great prog
[12:17] <salah> soundray, I get input/output error
[12:17] <johnnybezak> hey guys, my networking is borked, is there a way to reinstall it. i updated from hoary but htat didn't help. i really can't be bothered formatting and reinstalling
[12:17] <ardchoille> " Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money?
[12:17] <SaTaN`_> :
[12:17] <SaTaN`_> :)
[12:17] <passwordddd> where can i get the driver for it?
[12:17] <ardchoille> wow, the bot knows me!
[12:17] <ardchoille> lol
[12:17] <soundray> salah: then your CD-ROM is either not iso compliant, or it is faulty. Scratches? Fingerprints?
[12:17] <newb> Hey, Im getting error when i configure C compiler cannot create exectuables iv read on forums how to fix this but cant work out how to do it anyone got ideas?
[12:18] <salah> soundray, no, nothing. it plays of the cd fine without any problems
[12:18] <Aviatrixie> ardchoille... sounds like my last husband  ;)
[12:18] <passwordddd> hello pls help me
[12:18] <OrgulloKmoore> tapu what do you need help with in Flash? What's wrong with it?
[12:18] <soundray> salah: so it's an audio CD?
[12:18] <mada> passwordddd: looks like there is a request for support right now, i don't see any natively downloadable support and i can almost promise the vendor doesn't have a downloadable module
[12:18] <salah> soundray, no a VCD im trying to copy
[12:18] <ardchoille> Aviatrixie: lol
[12:19] <zamarronstein> do you want mplayer to mp3?
[12:19] <passwordddd> ok.. when i was using it for windows me it was ok..
[12:19] <OrgulloKmoore> tapu what have you tried and why did it not work? What were you expecting and what did you get? (All helpful to help us help you) :P
[12:19] <passwordddd> but now on ubuntu cant get a driver
[12:20] <mada> passwordddd: ubuntu is linux, windows me is windows .... very different, and since microsoft currently is still in control of the world, not all hardware vendors like to release what is needed for linux drivers to easily be created
[12:20] <passwordddd> ok..
[12:20] <passwordddd> i see..
[12:20] <mada> its sad :(
[12:20] <passwordddd> then ubuntu is limited right?
[12:20] <mada> passwordddd: not really, but slightly
[12:20] <passwordddd> how about my printer hp deskjet 3900
[12:21] <ardchoille> mada: yes, it's sad.. but it's changing.. slowly, but it's changing
[12:21] <passwordddd> yeah
[12:21] <mada> passwordddd: technically yes, but the word "limited" seems so rash
[12:21] <passwordddd> it has some advantage too
[12:21] <passwordddd> cause it has a driver itself on some pci where xp don't
[12:21] <mada> passwordddd: oh yeah, hp deskjet should just plug in and work .. ubuntu has hp printer drivers built in
[12:21] <passwordddd> really? cool
[12:21] <mada> yup
[12:22] <passwordddd> can i use it on the network?
[12:22] <grte> Anyone know how I can go about converting my mailspool to maildir format?
[12:22] <soundray> passwordddd: your sound chip is definitely supported in Ubuntu
[12:22] <mada> passwordddd: sure can, i don't personally know how to set it up, but it can be done
[12:22] <passwordddd> i have an me on the network where the printer is plugged can i print there from here?(ubuntu)
[12:22] <mada> passwordddd: looks like i was wrong about the sound card ... soundray seems to have found a fix
[12:22] <soundray> grte: look
[12:22] <soundray> !info mb2md
[12:22] <ubotu> mb2md: Converting Mbox mailboxes to Maildir format. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3.20-2 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 112 kB
[12:22] <passwordddd> soundray : how
[12:23] <mada> passwordddd: yes you can if you have the printer sharing setup on the computer the printer is plugged into
[12:23] <grte> Cool, thanks.
[12:23] <passwordddd> ok.. mada even if it is a winme? will it be done like that?
[12:23] <ardchoille> This channel ROCKS!
[12:23] <soundray> passwordddd: has it loaded a driver for your sound automatically? Check with 'lsmod | grep snd'
[12:24] <passwordddd> i use to print there from here also, but now i have changed to ubuntu and wonder if i still can do the i was doing before
[12:24] <mada> streamtuner+xmms makes my nights more enjoyable :)
[12:25] <mada> passwordddd: yes you can, but it takes a little setup and i have never done it so i don't know how to tell you to do it, but i know for a fact it can be done
[12:25] <passwordddd> ok thanks
[12:26] <mada> passwordddd: check out google for something like "ubuntu dapper network printer share"
[12:26] <mada> passwordddd: should give you some good links
[12:26] <passwordddd> ok
[12:26] <passwordddd> ty
[12:26] <passwordddd> soundray
[12:26] <passwordddd> soundray can i pm you the result?
[12:26] <passwordddd> tnx mada
[12:26] <mada> anytime :)
[12:26] <soundray> passwordddd: go ahead
[12:27] <zamarronstein> can i stop upgrade and upgrade it after
[12:27] <mada> heh ... that's awesome
[12:27] <mada> 05:27 Linux pseudoCube64 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:28:03 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:27] <Aviatrixie> windows ME was a bad acid trip in a snake pit... bad bad juju
[12:27] <mada> makes me smile
[12:27] <Tmob> how do i select how aggresive the laptop fan is ?
[12:28] <ardchoille> Aviatrixie: that's an interesting analogy :)
[12:28] <zamarronstein> can i stop upgrade and upgrade it after
[12:28] <soundray> passwordddd: I'm not getting a pm. Perhaps post your output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:28] <Tmob> my laptop gets hot and i have to manually adjust fan speed to high with i8kfan
[12:28] <mada> Tmob: you don't it is dynamic for how hot your processor is
[12:28] <mada> Tmob: whoa ... thats no good
[12:28] <mada> Tmob: you have acpi installed?
[12:28] <zamarronstein> can i stop upgrade and upgrade it after??
[12:28] <Tmob> mada, right, so who decides which temp will trigger which fan speed.. i only see fan low and off modes being used generally when its auto-toggling
[12:28] <mada> zamarronstein: i wouldn't ... something might break
[12:29] <soundray> zamarronstein: don't repeat please.
[12:29] <Tmob> mada, i have acpi-support/acpid running
[12:29] <mada> hrmmm... strange ...
[12:29] <Aviatrixie> ardchiolle... ME was lousy code. A few people got it to work well, but most pulled their hair out trying.
[12:29] <Tmob> basically the CPU temp is like 54C 2 mins ago
[12:29] <Tmob> now i turned the fan to high and its at 43C
[12:29] <mada> Tmob: oh, that's not good
[12:29] <Tmob> i would like it to maintain 45C i guess..
[12:29] <monomaniacpat> does dapper still use ubuntu-desktop?
[12:29] <soundray> monomaniacpat: yes
[12:30] <Tmob> mada, any idea how i can fix this?
[12:30] <mada> Tmob: it would be in acpi config ... where ever that is
[12:30] <ardchoille> Aviatrixie: IMHO, everything that M$ has done has been lousy. That's why I refuse to use their crap.
[12:30] <monomaniacpat> weird. I have KDE working and gnome broken and no -desktop's are installed!!!
[12:30] <mada> Tmob: i unfortunately don't have alot of experience with laptop linux
[12:30] <Tmob> mada, hmm ok
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_seq_dummy           3844  0
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_seq_oss            29440  0
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_seq_midi            8608  0
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_seq_midi_event      6656  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_seq                44688  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_via82xx            25792  0
[12:30] <passwordddd> gameport               14472  2 analog,snd_via82xx
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_ac97_codec         72188  1 snd_via82xx
[12:30] <Tmob> mada, anyone you know i can catch?
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_pcm_oss            46368  0
[12:30] <monomaniacpat> !pastebin
[12:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:30] <passwordddd> snd_mixer_oss          16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
[12:30] <Tmob> passwordddd, use pastebin.ca
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_pcm                78344  3 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_timer              21764  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
[12:30] <soundray> passwordddd: don't do that
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_page_alloc         10120  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_mpu401_uart         6784  1 snd_via82xx
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_rawmidi            22816  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_mpu401_uart
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd_seq_device          8204  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
[12:30] <moc_cando> snd                    48644  11 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
[12:30] <moc_cando> soundcore               9184  1 snd
[12:30] <Tmob> moc_cando, dude we are trying to have aconversation u know..
[12:30] <soundray> passwordddd: I *specifically* told you where to post your output
[12:31] <monomaniacpat> guys!!!! use the damn pastbin!!!!!!
[12:31] <Tmob> op?
[12:31] <moc_cando> tmob?
[12:31] <mada> Tmob: not off the top of my head ... the one guy i know who i think could fix it probably went to bed about 4 hours ago
[12:31] <soundray> passwordddd: I *specifically* told you where to post your output
[12:31] <mada> Tmob: sorry :(
[12:31] <Tmob> mada, no thats what i meant.. i can come back later ;)
[12:31] <passwordddd> sori
[12:31] <passwordddd> sorry
[12:31] <Tmob> mada, i'm on the channel often
[12:31] <Tmob> heh
[12:31] <mada> Tmob: i would recommend snooping google for acpi config
[12:31] <mada> oh ok ...
[12:32] <Tmob> Tmob, well i did .. but ubuntu documentation wasn't helpful in figuring this
[12:32] <Astinus> Morning folks :)
[12:32] <Astinus> Anyone tell me what this process is:    root      4198  0.0  0.0   4816   368 ?        Ss   10:01   0:00 /bin/dd bs 1 if /proc/kmsg of /var/run/klogd/kmsg
[12:32] <mada> Tmob: in like 12 hours i might be able to drag him on here :P
[12:32] <zamarronstein> my upgrade is going to finished until 12 hours
[12:32] <Tmob> most people just have HOT laptops and answer is to turn on acpi.. but nothing aout how aggresive, etc..
[12:32] <Tmob> mada, haha ok i htink i'll be around
[12:32] <Tmob> mada, will ttyl then
[12:33] <Astinus> rob! You're a useful Ubuntu person
[12:33] <mada> Tmob: kk :)
[12:33] <rob> hi Astinus
[12:33] <rob> dam lag
[12:33] <mada> Astinus: i think it is a kernel message and log daemon
[12:33] <ardchoille> rob: Thank you :)
[12:34] <Astinus> mada: Excellent.
[12:34] <mada> Astinus: why?
[12:34] <mada> Astinus: did you kill it or something?
[12:34] <rob> afaik thats correct Astinus
[12:34] <Astinus> mada: Nah, just wondered what it is :)
[12:34] <mada> Astinus: fair enough
[12:34] <mada> i agree ... i don't like unknown anything on my machine
[12:35] <mada> i know exactly how much ram should be in use on a fresh boot of my desktop
[12:35] <mada> 130.1MB ... :)
[12:35] <mada> if it is any more, i know something isn't right
[12:35] <skavenge> i thought astinus knew what was going on everywhere at all times? i suppose we're not on krynn ;)
[12:35] <Acegikmo> hey, can someone give me a hand? installed dapper recently and it wont boot a default session. I'm just running a gnome session atm. I can't remember changing anything other than installing a patched version of wine and WoW. any takers?
[12:36] <rob> Astinus, dd belongs to coreutils though
[12:36] <mada> skavenge: meh, nobody can know what is going on everywhere at all times, not even god ... i mean come on, if he really knew everything, everywhere, at all times why would he have angels :P
[12:37] <rob> Astinus, so something spawned a process of dd to convert and copy a file
[12:37] <skavenge> mada; he is a god though, in dragonlance .. i was making a joke about his nick
[12:37] <skavenge> heh
[12:37] <mada> skavenge: oh ... i missed the cross reference, my fault
[12:37] <skavenge> np heh
[12:38] <passwordddd> d
[12:38] <mada> ok, i think it is bed time for me ... we are slowly looking at 6am over here
[12:38] <mada> need some sleep before summer class
[12:38] <mada> as always, ladies and gents, it has been a pleasure
[12:38] <DyE_CapI> hi
[12:38] <passwordddd> where is mada from?
[12:39] <linuxhacking> hey rob
[12:39] <rob> yes?
[12:39] <linuxhacking> where you from?
[12:40] <Astinus> rob: passwordddd is highly like the passworddd you just kicked :P
[12:40] <rob> yes I know
[12:40] <Astinus> rob: Invoke the mighty anvil of doom :D *snicker*
[12:40] <linuxhacking> astinus what up? why does he need to know
[12:41] <linuxhacking> someone asked me to paste it
[12:41] <linuxhacking> damn
[12:41] <Astinus> What's up? My anvil. What's it likely to do? Squish you :P
[12:41] <rob> in a pastebin, read the topic linuxhacking
[12:41] <linuxhacking> yeah
[12:41] <linuxhacking> but i didn't know that time
[12:41] <linuxhacking> do you ban here?
[12:41] <rob> well, read the topic
[12:42] <HelmutG> Hi. shipit.ubuntu.com says that "requests usually take 4 to 6 weeks to deliver", does that count after requesting or after delivering to the shipping country?
[12:42] <HelmutG> s/shipping country/shipping company/
[12:42] <hybrid> HelmutG: after they are shipped
[12:42] <linuxhacking> hey
[12:42] <HelmutG> hybrid: thanks
[12:42] <hybrid> HelmutG: but of course time may vary
[12:42] <linuxhacking> anybody help me i need a driver for my sound card
[12:42] <HelmutG> hybrid: to germany?
[12:43] <Aviatrixie> as me, archoille... I made an impromptu post here in the cafe about what made me switch... Windows may be easy, but in the process of being easy for grandma they made us all open to viruses, spyware, and (thanks to Explorer) browser hijacks. I'm not here because I'm a hacker, nerd, or computer guru. I'm here because Windows is dangerous!
[12:43] <hybrid> HelmutG: iirc they are shipping out of Europe
[12:43] <dsas> HelmutG: The nederlands
[12:43] <ardchoille> Aviatrixie: I totally agree
[12:44] <HelmutG> ok. I'll wait another month.
[12:44] <Acegikmo> hCan someone lend me a hand? I'm running dapper and it wont boot a default session. I'm just running a gnome session atm. It goes to load but just sits there doing nothing, no error message, just...nothing
[12:45] <linuxhacking> !time
[12:45] <ubotu_> I know nothing about time
[12:45] <linuxhacking> !seen
[12:45] <linuxhacking> !help
[12:45] <ubotu_> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[12:46] <ardchoille> NOO!!!!
[12:46] <ardchoille> Ubotu, come back!
[12:46] <ara> does someone has experience dual booting?
[12:47] <hybrid> ara: dual booting what?
[12:47] <ara> windows & ubuntu
[12:47] <hybrid> not i
[12:47] <hybrid> now OSX and Ubuntu <3
[12:47] <Aviatrixie> It's been a few years (ahem... decades?) but I'm trying to remember what ( if anything) the color of the nic of someonne means. PM? He loves me? LOL I've been PMing the yellow names thinking it was a PM. Maybe it just means he likes my socks!   ;)
[12:47] <ardchoille> I dual boot..
[12:47] <ardchoille> Ubuntu amd debian
[12:48] <ara> my windows XP won't start anymore.. after installing ubuntu
[12:48] <passwordddd> hello what am i gonna type here to go to the ubuntu server?
[12:48] <Aviatrixie> ara... your mbr is borked
[12:48] <dwa> is anybody here using a sony ericsson m600i with ubuntu?
[12:48] <passwordddd> like this /server irc.ubuntu.xxx
[12:48] <kbrooks> single point of failure == bad
[12:48] <ara> my bootrecord?
[12:48] <ara> nah
[12:49] <ara> I can boot ubuntu though
[12:49] <hybrid> passwordddd: you are on the ubuntu server
[12:49] <passwordddd> yeah
[12:49] <passwordddd> i know
[12:49] <Aviatrixie> yup
[12:49] <darkbla> hi all
[12:49] <passwordddd> but if i go to a pc with an xp
[12:49] <passwordddd> using mirc
[12:49] <hybrid> passwordddd: any freenode node will work eg. /connect lem.freenode.net
[12:49] <stefg> ara: please paste your /etc/grub/menu.lst to the pastebin, maybe the 'chainloader' for win isn't called correctly
[12:49] <passwordddd> ok
[12:50] <hybrid> passwordddd: just connect to 'Freenode' and you will be fine
[12:50] <scheuri> hi all
[12:50] <ara> to where?
[12:50] <stefg> Ooops, its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:50] <salah> which burning program can handle vcds except from k3b?
[12:50] <ardchoille> ara: http://pastebin.com
[12:51] <hybrid> salah: graveman may
[12:51] <stefg> ara see /topic
[12:51] <Aviatrixie> gnomebaker allways works for me
[12:52] <OrgulloKmoore> salah perhaps serpentine but my experience is that k3b is the best
[12:55] <stefg> ping....
[12:55] <morenaza_3> wns
[12:55] <salah> OrgulloKmoore, what is serpentine made for? (what kind of formats does it burn?)
[12:56] <ara> posted.. :)
[12:57] <ardchoille> This channel got quiet all of a sudden. Was it something I said?
[12:57] <Aviatrixie> serpentine is made for media that can wrap around your arm like a snake... tape for the most part.  ;)
[12:58] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: What about very hot CDs?
[12:58] <scheuri> Warbo: you mean those which just come out the burner?
[12:59] <Aviatrixie> ardchiolle... you are one of the few things... people... that keep this place interesting
[12:59] <Warbo> scheuri: I would return your CD burner.....
[12:59] <ubunt1> can some help me i keep getting an eror every time i use gmix
[12:59] <Warbo> ubunt1: What does the error say?
[01:00] <Aviatrixie> Warbo... melted plastic may wrap around your arm in a serpentine fashion, but I don't think that applies here ;)
[01:01] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: I had a CD explode in my drive once if that counts?
[01:01] <Warbo> There's still bits of silvery foil in it if you shake it
[01:01] <ardchoille> Time for bed :)
[01:02] <Aviatrixie> Warbo... that's what you get for listenning to Brittney Spears on the eve of a Bio exam.  ;)
[01:03] <ara> the problem is that windows boots but searches for autochk file.. and than it crashes..
[01:03] <Warbo> ubunt1: What error message do you get?
[01:04] <stefg> ara: then i doubt that this has somthing to do with ubuntu
[01:05] <ara> but I partitioned it before the install
[01:05] <ara> and I could boot then
[01:06] <stefg> what does sudo fdisk -l spit out? (pastebin please)
[01:06] <Warbo> ara: If the only thing that has changed since Windows last worked is you installing Ubuntu then you may have screwed Windows somehow, but I do not understand Windows problems so I couldn't say
[01:06] <ali> i have to share connection between two computers one is ubuntu connected to internet one is client windows
[01:07] <Warbo> !samba
[01:07] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:07] <ali> i dont want to use firewall what is the best possible way
[01:07] <ali> Warbo, but i have two network cards
[01:07] <Warbo> all: Check out those Samba links (I have never used it myself, but it apparently works)
[01:07] <ali> Warbo, one is connected to the internet one to the local area network
[01:08] <stefg> http://rob.pectol.com/content/view/3/1/ check this out
[01:08] <Aviatrixie> ok... I'm wondering... My son is asking me if I can do a save install of Linux where he can download MP3s withouf worry of browser hijacks and viruses. Since I've never downloaded an MP3 in my life I have no clue. Does Linux give me any protection in peer to peer?
[01:09] <Aviatrixie> oops... save = safe
[01:09] <ali> yes Aviatrixie ofcoarse
[01:09] <Warbo> ali: I know Firestarter can set up IP masquerading, and I think it's config is still used even if you close it (because it uses IPTables) so setting up Firestarter to share connections then closing it should let you share a connection, then use Samba to let Windows understand it
[01:09] <ali> 500 / 5000,000
[01:09] <Aviatrixie> ali... explain
[01:10] <ali> Aviatrixie, this os(linux) doesnt have viruses neither do they develop a lot ;)
[01:10] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: MP3 files and things like that are just data, they cannot actually harm your computer. The danger comes when you try to download software from P2P, since it could be anything. As long as you stick to data then you should be fine
[01:10] <ali> so you are safe from hijack
[01:10] <ali> i am using for few year i havent faced one case i dont know about rest
[01:11] <ali> Thanks Warbo i will try now
[01:11] <Warbo> ali: I have set up a 2 machine network before to play crack-attack against my brother, anything more advanced than that is just speculation :)
[01:12] <stefg> Aviatrixie: If it's just for surfing the web, you might want to check  http://www.vmware.com/download/player/ and  http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/ubuntu.html
[01:13] <stefg> But this requires a relativly powerful machine to run on
[01:13] <phanter> hello. I want to use x11 forwarding over ssh. I already enabled the option in sshd_config. It still does not work (unable to open display).
[01:13] <Warbo> There is a link at the bottom of this page about installing Ubuntu inside Windows...
[01:13] <Warbo> !vmware
[01:13] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingVMWare
[01:13] <monomaniacpat> I think my upgrade broke because I had firestarter installed. KDE works, gnome doesn't. Just noticed ubuntu/kubuntu-desktop's are not installed but the packages are downloaded - could it have downloaded many packages and only instaled a few??
[01:13] <Aviatrixie> that's where he got into trouble, Warbo... doing p2p... His last CWS hijack hosed his os. Since his father and I were divorcing (and his win xp pro was a corp that daddy got at work and I couldn't use) I had to fork over $200 for a box of XP Home.
[01:13] <GreySim> phanter, I think you have to do something with "exporting the display."
[01:13] <Glimmerati> i have two os xp and ubuntu/ i have mounted xp but i cannot write in xp from ubontu...HOW CAN I?
[01:13] <finalbeta> eh, my vieo card moved from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 between boots. Now my TV apps flip out because they use the standard device, and I can't change it?
[01:13] <GreySim> Unless you already did that, in which case ignore this psuedo-n00b.  :P
[01:14] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: You could try to get a Windows refund............ or maybe not
[01:14] <anotheranne> hi
[01:14] <Warbo> Glimmerati: NTFS is read-only unless you use special tools
[01:14] <anotheranne> can i ask a general question here re ubunyi install?
[01:14] <Warbo> !ntfs
[01:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:14] <Warbo> !fuse
[01:14] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:14] <Aviatrixie> Nah... I'm a Linux chick now. I've had it with Windows insecurity
[01:15] <Glimmerati> is there any way I can?
[01:15] <protocol1> whats a goodsftp client
[01:15] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Check out that !fuse link
[01:15] <protocol1> whats a good sftp or scp client
[01:15] <protocol1> *
[01:15] <tanek> Aviatrixie: good gal. :)
[01:15] <anotheranne> i am running libranet, can I just install over the top or should I delete the partitions and start again?
[01:15] <gavinchappell> scp? :)
[01:15] <[Nige] > hi all
[01:15] <Aviatrixie> And when I have it all sorted out I'll convert my son, daughter, father, sister, brother, and a few boyfriends.
[01:16] <Aviatrixie> ;)
[01:16] <gavinchappell> a few boyfriends? are linux chicks easy or something :/
[01:16] <Warbo> Aviatrixie: A few? Better get one laptop per wardrobe
[01:16] <tanek> ubuntu isnt too hard to get sorted out.
[01:16] <Aviatrixie> LOL
[01:16] <monomaniacpat> anyone know how to get ubuntu to install packages it has already downloaded but not installed? Specifically ones downlaoded for breezay>dapper upgrade?
[01:16] <[Nige] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16746
[01:17] <ara> damn..having inet probs
[01:17] <[Nige] > anyone know how to fix that thunderbird problem?
[01:17] <Aviatrixie> I only do PDA's... Palm at that. MS can stuff their CE crap
[01:17] <tanek> sucks linux isnt very great for wLAN, if ur gonna have them in the closets
[01:17] <Glimmerati> its says it is unsafe...how can I
[01:17] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: You could go into /var/cache/apt/archives and use dpkg -i *
[01:17] <tanek> like, cables are not very discrete
[01:17] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: could that potentially cause a problem?
[01:17] <Warbo> Glimmerati: That's because it is unsafe. You can use it if you REALLY need to (then you should boot into Windows and check the disk)
[01:18] <Glimmerati> offcourse...first I need to save all my xp works...thanks anyway
[01:18] <jrib> Warbo: doing the dist-upgrade again, should install them
[01:18] <stefg> [Nige] : this seems in fact a problem with your xorg.conf... Misconfigured input devices
[01:18] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: I usually plan ahead and use apt-get clean before I download stuffto do that. You could always use "apt-get --no-download --ignore-missing dist-upgrade"
[01:19] <ara> brb..
[01:19] <[Nige] > stefg, only seems to affect thunderbird though. everything else seems okay
[01:19] <monomaniacpat> is it safe to dpkg -i?
[01:19] <anotheranne> i see really busy here, i'll try another day, (or rtfm)
[01:19] <stefg> thunderbird is the symptom, not the cause
[01:19] <[Nige] > stefg, fair enough....
[01:20] <[Nige] > weird problem though.
[01:20] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Yes, but it will probably install LOADS of stuff if you don't clean out apt regularly
[01:20] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: I usually plan ahead and use apt-get clean before I download stuffto do that. You could always use "apt-get --no-download --ignore-missing dist-upgrade"
[01:20] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: could you give me the command again... how do I clean out apt?
[01:21] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: "sudo apt-get clean" will delete all of the downloaded packages. If you do that BEFORE downloading whatever you need then you will only have the desired packages in /var
[01:22] <HighTide> hi
[01:22] <Warbo> hi
[01:22] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: OK, what's this IGNORE MISSING?
[01:22] <HighTide> good morning!
[01:22] <HighTide> Warbo: good morning!
[01:22] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: If you are not downloading stuff then you may not have everything it needs. If this is the case then that option will skip anything which it can't install due to dependencies
[01:23] <Warbo> HighTide: Afternoon (just)
[01:23] <finalbeta> !rar
[01:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:23] <Warbo> HighTide: But I've been up all night.........
[01:23] <stefg> [Nige] :  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kubuntu-devel/2006-May/001195.html
[01:23] <HighTide> afternoon, i just woke up, god i need coffeee
[01:23] <HighTide> Warbo:do you have a sleeping disorder?
[01:24] <Warbo> HighTide: I am just now feeling the effects of a 5.5 day ice cream, Dr. Pepper and pringles binge :(
[01:24] <whaley> rofl good lord
[01:24] <Amaranth> Warbo: Sounds like a Summer of Code diet.
[01:24] <HighTide> Warbo:WOW did u take some adderall too?
[01:24] <monomaniacpat> dist-upgrade won't install anything new. It did that the other day even when I didn't have ubuntu-desktop installed!
[01:25] <HighTide> Warbo:WOW did u take some adderall too?
[01:25] <Warbo> You know those divorced parents where the father tries to buy their kid's affection by buying all of the stuff the mother won't get? WellI'm that kid
[01:25] <[Nige] > stefg, just a bug then?
[01:25] <HighTide> Warbo: lucky
[01:25] <HighTide> Warbo:my fathers in prison
[01:25] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: If you have updated your sources.list then dist-upgrade should give you dapper
[01:26] <stefg> Seems so, I'm not using KDE... just enetred the error-message and 'ubuntu' into google... :-)
[01:26] <[Nige] > hmm
[01:26] <[Nige] > i saw it alittle early...  i use kdee :)
[01:26] <HighTide> Warbo: i have to take a dump i'll be right back!
[01:26] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: I already have dapper installed, but gnome is broken
[01:26] <HighTide> Warbo: i have to take a dump i'll be right back!
[01:26] <Warbo> HighTide: Too much information :)
[01:27] <protocol1> is there anything I need to install to get a sftp server running?....if so what program would I use?
[01:27] <HighTide> Warbo:Sorry my stomach os upset i at a 1lb block of cheese for dinner last night!!!
[01:27] <protocol1> client/server*
[01:27] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Broken? The package or your config? purging MAY fix the config, but not if it is your personal user preferences
[01:27] <HighTide> Warbo:Sorry my stomach os upset i at a 1lb block of cheese for dinner last night!!!
[01:27] <Warbo> HighTide: tasty
[01:28] <HighTide> Warbo:AMSTERDAM?????
[01:28] <nekohayo> hey did anyone try using the redhat system-config-* tools in ubuntu or debian?
[01:28] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: If I try to use a text entry box like this one or admin passwd entry the program quits unexpectedly
[01:29] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Hmm.. Weird. I don't know the internals of GNOME and GTK that much though, so I wouldn't know where the problem is
[01:29] <ccooke> nekohayo: It would be something of a miracle if they worked - there are hugedifferences between redhat and a debian-style distro
[01:30] <nekohayo> ccooke: well I did try aliening the system-config-display RPM, and of course it did not work... question is, what is so huge that a simple python app doesn't run? also, WTF is the source so I could  compile it?
[01:30] <Warbo> RedHat and Debian foked over a decade ago. Everything else is basically a derivative or from scratch
[01:30] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: what was the command to install all packages? Would that potentially break dapper?
[01:30] <Warbo> Therefore they are not really compatible
[01:31] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: I was under the assumption that you were trying to upgrade from breezy to dapper without downloading any packages (because they were there)
[01:31] <GreySim> nekohayo, dunno if anyone said this before, but you could try this commandline psuedo-GUI package: "sysv-rc-conf".  A bit more info here: http://www.adrianbradshaw.co.uk/?p=100
[01:31] <Glimmerati> how can I run wma and wmv files?
[01:32] <Warbo> !restricted
[01:32] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:32] <EvilGrin> Glimmerati, you need to install the codecs
[01:32] <monomaniacpat> Alternatively, I do have a backup tarball, but that was about 2 months ago - advisable?
[01:32] <killaz> when I try to unmount an nfs share it tells me that the device is busy......
[01:32] <karmicthreat> Anyone know if there is an exploit with DNS that lets someone remotely redirect what IP gets resolved?  One of my sites is showing the correct IP as the non-auth and a different dead IP as the authoritative address.
[01:32] <Glimmerati> can u plz tell me HOW?
[01:32] <killaz> I mounted it using the x.x.x.x
[01:33] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: If something is broken then a backup is useful, even if you have to upgrade it a bit. At least you know it works, whereas you may be stuck for weeks trying to fix a problem to just end up using the backup anyway
[01:33] <killaz> I mounted it using the mount x.x.x.x:/dir /mount_dir
[01:33] <Warbo> !tell Glimmerati about universe
[01:33] <Warbo> Glimmerati: You have that turned on?
[01:33] <killaz> now I cant unmount it
[01:34] <killaz> any ideas?
[01:34] <nekohayo> GreySim: hmm that's for services no?
[01:34] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: do you know how to 'execute' a tarball so that it replaces all my files?
[01:34] <Warbo> killaz: "sudo umount -l /mount_dir"?
[01:34] <killaz> -l?
[01:34] <nekohayo> GreySim: kinda similar to "bum".. but I'm actually looking to get the redhat ones, just out of plain curiosity, and also because I believe they must have a fairly good graphic utility
[01:34] <wildman> killaz: lazy unmount
[01:34] <nekohayo> for configuring Xorg
[01:35] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: putting it in / (assuming it is a tar ball of /) and using "sudo tar -xf filename.tar" should do it (and that goes for gz and bz2 as well)
[01:35] <Warbo> bum always crashed for me
[01:35] <GreySim> Oh, my mistake.  I came back to the computer and only skimmed what was going on, and assumed you'd meant the services GUI.  My mistake.  >.<
[01:35] <killaz> wildman, strange cause that means that the device is being used..
[01:35] <monomaniacpat> hokay - wish me luck!
[01:35] <nekohayo> GreySim: no problem. But does this python one work well? Like, feature-complete? I would try it
[01:36] <Glimmerati> i m not sure....how can I know
[01:36] <wildman> killaz: well... it might be, or it might be network timeout pbs
[01:36] <wildman> killaz: IIRC -l will 'force' the umount somehow in a 'clean' way
[01:36] <killaz> wildman,  pbs?
[01:36] <wildman> ProBlemS
[01:37] <Warbo> Glimmerati: "apt-cache search gltron" Does it say anything?
[01:37] <SleepSim> nekohayo, I have no idea.  I imagine not yet, as that was only started a short time ago.  Not even sure if the code is public yet.
[01:37] <Glimmerati> I beg u r pardon...i m new user of ubuntu......
[01:38] <nekohayo> SleepSim: and from what are the goals different than, for example, bum?
[01:38] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Run that in a terminal, does it say anything?
[01:38] <nekohayo> just curious
[01:39] <Warbo> Glimmerati: "something" usually means type the word something into a terminal
[01:40] <Glimmerati> i ran "apt-cache" in terminal its pop up with many words
[01:40] <SleepSim> nekohayo, no idea.  Haven't seen a Fedora machine since FC1, and my brain is shutting down, since it's almost 5 a.m. here.  >.>
[01:40] <ccooke> nekohayo: The reason the redhat tools don't work is that the different distributions have completely different middle-layer configuration. The *tools* at the lowest level are the same, but how those tools are put together to derive a configuration is very different.
[01:40] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Did you put "apt-cache search gltron" like that?
[01:40] <Glimmerati> "apt-cache" = invalid command
[01:40] <jackal`zzZZ> hi, my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes :-/ help (the console button also doesnt react)
[01:40] <neopsyche> hello
[01:40] <Glimmerati> no just apt-cache
[01:40] <neopsyche> hi
[01:40] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Maybe "sudo apt-cache search gltron"
[01:40] <Ng> you don't need sudo for apt-cache
[01:41] <neopsyche> is there any channel on freenode for help on finding apps?
[01:41] <Warbo> Ng: Yes, i realise after seeing that last message
[01:41] <xice> howabout armagetron
[01:41] <Warbo> xice: Just looking for a package which is in Universe
[01:41] <ccooke> nekohayo: (for instance, networking configuration  - redhat uses a set of files under /etc/sysconfig including 'network' and a large number of scripts under 'network-scripts'...)
[01:41] <Glimmerati> "gltron - 3D lightcycle game
[01:41] <Glimmerati> junior-games-gl - Debian Jr. 3D Games (hardware acceleration required)
[01:41] <Glimmerati> "
[01:41] <Glimmerati> continu......Couldn't stat source package list http:
[01:42] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Then you have Universe enabled
[01:42] <nekohayo> ccooke: while other distributions such as debian/ubuntu simply use ifup/ifdown and /etc/network/interfaces ?
[01:42] <ccooke> nekohayo: Debian doesn't have any of those files - it stores the same information under a completely different format with different file names (and fewer files)
[01:42] <xice> Warbo, a lol didnt read
[01:42] <ccooke> nekohayo: yes.
[01:42] <Glimmerati> now what I have to do to enable wma and emv
[01:42] <nekohayo> but that is just so plain stupid >_< why wasn't that done standard ?
[01:42] <ccooke> nekohayo: because there *IS* no standard
[01:42] <nadjyla> hello :)
[01:42] <_jason> Glimmerati: use xine or mplayer and w32codecs
[01:42] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Open up Synaptic Package Manager and search for "gstreamer" and you will get a load of plugins to use. Don't know which is WMA/WMV though...
[01:43] <ccooke> nekohayo: there has never been a standard
[01:43] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Or use xine and w32codecs :)
[01:43] <nekohayo> T_T... does freedesktop or anyone else plan to make one sometime?
[01:43] <Dames> I'm running Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro. How would I go about right clicking?
[01:43] <ccooke> nekohayo: actually, debian is closer to what 'standards' there are, since it uses things like /etc/hostname for the hostname
[01:43] <_jason> Glimmerati: (xine || mplayer) && w32codecs  to be clear :)
[01:44] <Warbo> nekohayo: Freedesktop and maybe Linux Standard Base are probably working on it
[01:44] <nekohayo> hmm
[01:44] <ara> back and posted the 'fdisk'
[01:44] <Glimmerati> i have xinetd and xine-ui which one?
[01:44] <SleepSim> xine-ui
[01:44] <Warbo> nekohayo: Mind you, Debian developers can be pretty stubborn, and RehHat won't want to mess around with it's Enterprise systems
[01:45] <_jason> Glimmerati: totem-xine, xine-ui, or gxine should all be fine
[01:45] <nekohayo> :(
[01:45] <Warbo> Glimmerati: xinetd is for Internet stuff :)
[01:45] <Glimmerati> i already have installed gxine...but it is not getting wma and wmv
[01:45] <AJR1> how do i get my other drives accessible in ubuntu they have a strange access path /tmp/disks-conf-hda1
[01:45] <_jason> Glimmerati: did you get w32codecs?
[01:45] <ROBOd> hello
[01:45] <Smeggy> can anyone telll me how to make my network consistently start at boot?  wired ethernet card, no driver problems... set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces... but it still wont come up at boot?
[01:46] <OrgulloKmoore> hmm...I must have hit the xmms mute button or something...it just all of the sudden stopped making noise
[01:46] <Glimmerati> I also have xmms and totel...xmms is giving me mp3 but not wma & totem is givin me noting
[01:46] <nekohayo> Warbo: that's a pretty depressing thing I'm learning right now :P
[01:46] <OrgulloKmoore> other applications make sound though
[01:46] <OrgulloKmoore> where is the mute button?
[01:46] <Glimmerati> no I haven't w32codecs
[01:46] <ROBOd> guys, i had nvidia geforce 2
[01:46] <ROBOd> now i got geforce 4
[01:46] <Warbo> Glimmerati: You need a plugin for XMMS for WMA. I used to know where to find it as well
[01:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Glimmerati about w32codecs
[01:46] <ROBOd> how to make ubuntu recheck the video card?
[01:46] <ROBOd> i have the nvidia-glx package installed
[01:47] <Glimmerati> no...there is no w32codecs in sypntec pack
[01:47] <Warbo> ROBOd: a) You shouldn't need to b) I think it does anyway (I have seen an ATI system change to an Nvidia one at boot [using free drivers ofr each] )
[01:47] <OrgulloKmoore> nevermind, I got it
[01:47] <Ng> ROBOd: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:47] <_jason> Glimmerati: ubotu should have sent you a link to where you can get them and how to install them
[01:47] <OrgulloKmoore> Glavata you'll have to get those from mplayer.hu, IIRC
[01:47] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Do you have Multiverse enabled (usually universe and multiverse are enabled at the same time)
[01:48] <ROBOd> Ng: thanks
[01:48] <OrgulloKmoore> (that was meant for Glimmerati )
[01:48] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[01:48] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[01:48] <jackal`zzZZ> hi, my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes :-/ help (the console button also doesnt react) help pls :-/
[01:48] <Glimmerati> no I havent anything from ubunti...
[01:48] <_jason> !w32codecs
[01:48] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[01:49] <Warbo> Glimmerati: MPlayer uses codecs put into /usr/lib/codecs, including Windows ones. If you get a big pack of codecs from Google (like Nemo) then you can install it in WINE and copy the codecs to /usr/lib/codecs and use them in MPlayer
[01:49] <ara> stefg: I posted the fdisk..
[01:50] <stefg> so post the link in here
[01:50] <phanter> hello. I once made a user on my server without a shell. Now the user needs a shell. Can I add it to the current user (and how)?
[01:51] <Glimmerati> it is getting complecated...IS ANY EASY?
[01:51] <_jason> phanter: usermod -s
[01:51] <Warbo> Glimmerati: "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[01:51] <jackal`inst> my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes
[01:51] <stefg> ara: i got it... your partiton table is a mess ...
[01:51] <Warbo> Glimmerati: (you will need Synaptic closed to do that)
[01:52] <bezibaerchen> hi all
[01:52] <ara> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16748
[01:53] <stefg> ara: i got it... your partiton table is a mess ...
[01:53] <_jason> Warbo: I believe w32codecs aren't available in ubuntu's "normal" repos
[01:53] <F0LL0W3R> is anjuta can be used as php editor ?
[01:53] <Smeggy> can anyone recommend an iphoto/f-spot type app that doesn't use mono?
[01:53] <ara> I know
[01:53] <Warbo> _jason: In Multiverse aren't they?
[01:53] <Warbo> Smeggy: Picasa from Google?
[01:53] <ara> windows XP needs 3 partitions on itself
[01:53] <F0LL0W3R> if itsnt what is the best php editor to write scripts through it ?
[01:53] <_jason> !info w32codecs
[01:53] <ubotu> Package w32codecs does not exist in dapper
[01:54] <Smeggy> Warbo, thanks.. dunno why i didnt think of that
[01:54] <helpme> please help, i cant mount my xfs home directory... "mount: can't read superblock"
[01:54] <Warbo> Smeggy: I installed it and it worked, but then realised that I have no use for it :)
[01:54] <ccooke> nekohayo: Well, you say it's depressing... but you tell me - which system is better? Redhat's or Debian's?
[01:55] <stefg> ara: make a complete backup, reinitialize the disk... i think the problem with Win not booting is the Compaq service partition... it has to be the first. And wtf is sda1? some sort of other boot-manager?
[01:55] <bezibaerchen> how does one set the default locale in gnome-terminal? mine is (dunno how i reached that :-( ) ANSI_X3.4-1968, i can manually switch to ISO or UTF-8, but I'd prefer to have ISO as default and get rid of this ANSI-crap
[01:55] <ara> sda1 is the data disk of windows
[01:56] <stefg> Hidden?
[01:56] <ara> duno apparantly..
[01:56] <helpme> what is the command to recover an xfs partition from unclean dismount
[01:56] <jackal`inst> help me please :(
[01:56] <Warbo> bezibaerchen: Locale is a system-wide thing, but Xorg uses it's own (sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg) if it is the keyboard which is wrong
[01:57] <Warbo> helpme: fsck?
[01:57] <bezibaerchen> Warbo: the problem only seems to be a gnome-terminal one, but I'd try that, a hint which i haven't found yet
[01:57] <helpme> fsck doesnt do anything, because i cant mount the partition, mount says cant read superblock
[01:57] <stefg> ara: Listen... your partiton table was broken before, so the ubuntu install just revealed this brokenness... Do yourself a favour: Make a complete Backup and clean up your harddrive. Gaining a backup never hurts
[01:57] <ara> I don't know what the compaq partition is..
[01:57] <Warbo> bezibaerchen: I don't know how to set the locale. Maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[01:57] <rich0909> hi all,
[01:58] <ara> mmm.. yes
[01:58] <Warbo> helpme: NEVER fsck a mounted partition!
[01:58] <rich0909> any 1 been able to use usb dvb in ubuntu ?
[01:58] <ara> broken before.. got it then that way..
[01:58] <ara> so just instal windows again first and then ubuntu
[01:59] <Warbo> helpme: What commond are you running to mount it?
[01:59] <helpme> sudo mount /home
[01:59] <ara> and automatic partition prob...
[01:59] <stefg> That would be the cleanest way, the most work-intensive as well
[01:59] <Warbo> helpme: what does "cat /etc/fstab | grep home" say?
[02:00] <killaz> can I use the same options for nfs as for smbfs I mean like auto,username = etc etc
[02:00] <killaz> in /etc/fstab
[02:00] <helpme> warbo : /dev/hda6 /home xfs defaults 1 2
[02:00] <jackal`inst> can anybody read what im writing?
[02:00] <bezibaerchen> Warbo: this didn't do the job
[02:00] <Warbo> helpme: If you are SURE that home is not mounted then just do "sudo fsck /dev/hda6"
[02:01] <bezibaerchen> anyone else aware to tell me, where to set locale-settings of gnome-terminal?
[02:01] <Warbo> bezibaerchen: I don't know how o change the locale system wide sorry
[02:01] <stefg> ara: i could give you a suggestion how to partiton your drive BEFORE installing XP... But you'll need a complete backup before
[02:01] <orbin> jackal`inst: no :P
[02:01] <jackal`inst> thx orbin :)
[02:01] <bezibaerchen> Warbo: that's why i too wrote "anyone else" :-)
[02:02] <jackal`inst> so i'll be just ignored :D
[02:02] <helpme> # sudo fsck /dev/hda6
[02:02] <helpme> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[02:02] <helpme> #
[02:02] <ara> I have already a backup
[02:02] <Warbo> helpme: I hope you are not about to flood the channel
[02:02] <AJR1> i have downloaded ndiswarpper via usb and transferred it to ubuntu, how do i get it to make and install anyone please?
[02:02] <helpme> no warbo, thats the end of the output
[02:02] <ara> but if I install windows XP won't the whole disk be formatted..?
[02:02] <monomaniacpat> is it OK to extract a backup whilst running kubuntu?
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> distro backup
[02:03] <Warbo> helpme: That's it? Wow, maybe xfs has a custom fsck. Try "ls /sbin/*xfs*"
[02:03] <phanter> when i login with ssh -X ipaddress -l username then I do not get a shel, but I jsut added a shell to the user via usermod -s /bin/bash username ... what am I doing wrong?
[02:03] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: ?
[02:03] <jackal`inst> orbin can u read my question?
[02:03] <jackal`inst> my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes
[02:03] <AJR1> i have downloaded ndiswarpper via usb and transferred it to ubuntu, how do i get it to make and install anyone please?
[02:03] <nekohayo> ccooke: well I'm in no position to comment which implementation is correct, what I consider depressing is the fact that each camp is "entrenched" for years because of that
[02:03] <jackal`inst> posted directly after asking you
[02:04] <stefg> ara: no, you can Xp tell to install to a specific partiton (given you have a proper XP installation medium, not a OEM-recovery thing)
[02:04] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: I'm not sure but I have copied some roots around whilst using them in chroot before. In fact my system is a copy of another file-for-file
[02:04] <helpme> warbo: /sbin/fsck.xfs /sbin/xfs_repair
[02:04] <orbin> jackal`inst: i just joined.  your 1st post that i can see is help me
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: it says tar: usr/share/doc/vim-common: Cannot create symlink to `vim': File exists
[02:04] <ara> thats the problem.. I have OEM-recovery
[02:04] <Warbo> helpme: I think we just found the right commands :)
[02:04] <Warbo> helpme: "sudo fsck.xfs /dev/hda6"
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> is there a way to do it from grub/commandline?
[02:05] <jackal`inst> orbin..and you cannot see, that i wrote something about app that doesnt work?
[02:05] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Ah, it is not overwriting
[02:05] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: You could do it from a LiveCD
[02:05] <helpme> warbo: i tried that already... no output, just the command line back
[02:05] <monomaniacpat> Oh, OK....
[02:05] <Warbo> helpme: The "sudo xfs_repair /dev/hda6"
[02:05] <orbin> jackal`inst: nope
[02:05] <orbin> jackal`inst: what's the issue?
[02:06] <jackal`inst> seems, that my question is too long or something?
[02:06] <jackal`inst> my "applications button doesnt work anymore...clicked something in the menu "settings" and since |cut|
[02:06] <jackal`inst> this clicking it doesnt open and i cannot do right click to open it on the desktop...rebooted the system, but nothing changes
[02:06] <jackal`inst> can u see my quest now?
[02:06] <stefg> ara: Bad news... blame the vendor. Then your only option is using a really clever partition imaging program... the procedure would be: 1.) backup 2.) do the recover install 3.) make room for ubuntu then with gparted 4.) install ubuntu
[02:06] <orbin> jackal`inst: yep.  so something's wrong with the applications menu on the top panel?
[02:07] <jackal`inst> yep, i click on it, but..nothing happenes
[02:07] <helpme> warbo: it tells me there is an ERROR.. try mounting then use -L option to destroy internal log and attempt a repair, but might cause corruption.  please try mounting first
[02:07] <Warbo> helpme: "sudo umount /dev/hda6"
[02:07] <helpme> warbo: yes done
[02:07] <orbin> jackal`inst: right-click on it > remove from panel.  then re-add the menu bar applet
[02:08] <helpme> not mounted
[02:08] <stefg> ara: But wiping the disk is pretty much mandatory ...
[02:08] <HighTide> Warbo:AMSTERDAM?????
[02:08] <HighTide> Warbo:AMSTERDAM?????
[02:08] <Warbo> HighTide: What about it? Do you want to go?
[02:09] <helpme> warbo:  sudo xfs_repair -L /dev/hda6   ??
[02:09] <jackal`inst> (orbin): done this..but now i have the "xfce menu" and i click on it and nothing happens :)
[02:09] <ara> I have partition magic.. but where would I best but the swap en boot partition of linux then?
[02:09] <Warbo> helpme: I doubt it, I don't know. (if it wasn't that serious I would say "Serves you right for using XFS")
[02:09] <orbin> jackal`inst: xfce menu?
[02:09] <jackal`inst> (orbin): thats the name, mom
[02:10] <afflux> morgen...
[02:10] <phanter> when i login with ssh -X ipaddress -l username then I do not get a shel, but I jsut added a shell to the user via usermod -s /bin/bash username ... what am I doing wrong?
[02:10] <bimberi> jackal`inst: was it a change done using the menu editor?  you could run it again and undo whatever it was: <alt>F2 'alacarte'
[02:10] <helpme> hmm, i thought xfs was good
[02:10] <jackal`inst> (bimberi): how can i run the menu editor
[02:10] <monomaniacpat> Is there an ubuntu LiveCD?
[02:10] <Warbo> helpme: Just kidding (but not about the knowing nothing part)
[02:11] <bimberi> jackal`inst: <alt>F2 'alacarte'
[02:11] <bimberi> monomaniacpat: yes, it's the Desktop CD
[02:11] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: The install CD is the liveCD now
[02:11] <jackal`inst> (bimberi): failed to exectue child process "alacarte" (no such file or dic)
[02:11] <monomaniacpat> bimberi: excellent, I already have that downloaded!
[02:12] <bimberi> monomaniacpat: well chosen :)
[02:12] <helpme> warbo: i've been having problems with xfs corrupting files when i get lazy and force shutdown before it unmounts
[02:12] <stefg> some peaople have to learn the hard way...
[02:12] <monomaniacpat> ...except I deleted it and didn't mark the CD i burnt it to... :X
[02:12] <Warbo> helpme: Surely any shutdown would unmount it? (or do you mean killing the power?)
[02:12] <ubuntu> can some help me with gmixer
[02:12] <bimberi> jackal`inst: is this ubuntu? (or kubuntu or xubuntu)
[02:12] <jackal`inst> (bimberi): xubutnu :)
[02:13] <helpme> warbo: yeah killing power like when it crashes sometimes
[02:13] <orbin> jackal`inst: dude.  we were assuming gnome :)
[02:13] <jackal`inst> (orbin): sry *g*
[02:13] <ara> one more question before I begin formatting: If a use the recovery CD format does he format the whole disk? or just the partitions that are now availble
[02:13] <Warbo> helpme: Serves you right in that respect then. Maybe you would consider using AFFS :) (you probably won't get the joke)
[02:13] <bimberi> jackal`inst: ahh, sorry i don't know much about that - have you tried the #xubuntu channel?
[02:14] <orbin> or #xfce
[02:14] <jackal`inst> (bimberi): nope, dont found the chan via listing and wasnt so clever just trying :D
[02:14] <helpme> using a f$$kin filesystem?
[02:14] <helpme> lol
[02:14] <stefg> ara: I assume that the recovery disk will completly erase everything... the whole disk
[02:14] <jackal`inst> thx, will try it there (:
[02:14] <Warbo> helpme: AFFS=Amiga Fast File System (which is a joke in itself really)
[02:15] <Matcat> is there a guide on how to partition and stuff for ubuntu
[02:15] <Warbo> !dualboot
[02:15] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:15] <helpme> yeah ive probably lost all my rare mame roms ... awesome
[02:15] <jackal`inst> there is nobody :)
[02:15] <stefg> Matcat: the installer tries to sort that out for you
[02:16] <ara> thx stefg
[02:16] <orbin> `that wiki page needs to be updated.  it still refers to the text-based installer
[02:16] <Warbo> helpme: Well you have the ROM chipboards handy don't you, can't you just dump them again? What's that, you were using the games ILLEGALLY? Shame on you
[02:16] <helpme> helpme: lol no.... the roms were destroyed when i dumped them
[02:17] <Warbo> helpme: Yeah, Read Only Memory has a habit of being wriiten to like that
[02:18] <Matcat> yeah tries to maybe i am thick
[02:19] <Warbo> Matcat: Installing only Ubuntu is easy and automatic, but dualboot may be a little harder (hence the !dualboot I did)
[02:19] <Smeggy> hrm picasa is impressive
[02:20] <helpme> warbo: well they dont want to make it easy... they put the decryption xor table in volatile memory, so even if you can backup your favourite arcade rom, u still cant play it
[02:20] <ara> indeed dualbooting isnot that easy.. I know
[02:20] <kbrooks> !dualboot
[02:20] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[02:21] <helpme> after u cut lithium power to the board etc
[02:21] <Warbo> I actually found dualbooting easy every time I have done it (I have been Linux-only for a couple of years now though)
[02:21] <Warbo> (maybe it was easier in the good old days of RedHat 9)
[02:21] <stefg> dual- triple- or quadruple-booting actually is a breeze... when the prerequisites are right, and you know abot grub :-)
[02:22] <Ro1> how do i uninstall apache
[02:22] <tam> not very ubuntu specific but does anyone know if jinzora2 has a limitation of a certain amount of tracks or albums?
[02:22] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get remove apache
[02:22] <helpme> stefg: good ol grub "map"
[02:23] <Ro1> thanks nameeater
[02:23] <Warbo> I usually juggle around partitions (single partition systems are eveil and should be melted down). I used to keep Windows and my files seperate, then deleted Windows, installed Fedora to the space it took up and installed Windows on my files partition. That worked quite well, even with OpenOffice and stuff in the cramped space
[02:23] <stefg> understanding the menu.lst and having a small service partition as the first one helps a lot...
[02:25] <ara> mmm it can cause problems to
[02:25] <Warbo> stefg: Fedora's GUI installer was probably the biggest help. It is pretty good
[02:25] <ubuntu> can someone help me out with this error http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7YV3SC29.html
[02:25] <VoX> what package is rar in?
[02:25] <ara> especialy with windows..
[02:25] <Warbo> !rar
[02:25] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:26] <orbin> anyone else getting "failed to load firmware" messages on bootup?
[02:26] <stefg> !anyone
[02:26] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:26] <Warbo> orbin: Firmware for what?
[02:26] <orbin> ubuntu: what are you doing to cause that?
[02:26] <monomaniacpat> OK how do i access files on the harddrive from a live cd? :roll eyes:
[02:26] <edgy> Hi, when I install mailman in my dapper and create a mailman list my url.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo shows a list called Mailman in one system. In the other system that essential mailing list doesn't show. I guess it shouldn't be shown as in lists.ubuntu.com, any hint?
[02:26] <orbin> Warbo: can't remember the exact message...some cryptic thing i didn't recognise
[02:26] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: "man mount"
[02:27] <Warbo> orbin: Firmware is for peripherals usually, maybe a USB modem?
[02:27] <stefg> monomaniacpat:  sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt && cd /mnt
[02:27] <stefg> ^^^ for example ^^^
[02:27] <Smeggy> hrm wth... googleearth gets better performance when i run it under xgl/compiz
[02:28] <orbin> Warbo: well, this is a laptop and i don't ahve a usb modem connected.  is there a bootup log somewhere?
[02:28] <stefg> dmesg
[02:28] <Warbo> Smeggy: I have crashes when using GL in XGL :( (and video is crap too)
[02:28] <Warbo> orbin: I don't think so (I think I saw that as a feature request for Edgy :))
[02:28] <Smeggy> Warbo, :(
[02:29] <Smeggy> Warbo, picasa wont work under xgl/compiz but googleearth runs better lol
[02:29] <MetaMorfoziS> isthere any ftp server that has gui, and easy to use? for lamers lik eme?:D
[02:29] <Warbo> Smeggy: Never tried GoogleEarth in Linux (tried it on a 400MHz XP system though. Wasn't that impressive if you ask me.....
[02:29] <kbrooks> MetaMorfoziS: not really.
[02:29] <MetaMorfoziS> like windoze proftpd and others...
[02:30] <orbin> no, can't find 'firmware' in dmesg output
[02:30] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[02:30] <Smeggy> Warbo, its very impressive to me.. tho I am running it on a dualcore amdx2 heh
[02:30] <monomaniacpat> stefg: says it can't find it in etc/fstab /etc/mtab
[02:30] <ubuntu> someone please help me i keep getting this error with most of my gnome programes  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7YV3SC29.html
[02:30] <Warbo> orbin: dmesg is kernel messages, not actually the boot messages
[02:30] <orbin> Warbo: right ok
[02:30] <kbrooks> MetaMorfoziS: proftpd exists
[02:30] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Don't use hdaX, use a proper partition :)
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's have giui?
[02:31] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: i have tabbed to get available hd* none of them work, e.g. hdb, hda1 etc
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> hm i found pureftp
[02:31] <stefg> monomaniacpat: sudo fdisk -l for a listing of your partions... the command i gave you was generic, you'll have to fill in the right partition name
[02:31] <MetaMorfoziS> that is a gui for proftpd it says..
[02:31] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: What type of HD do you have? Is it SATA?
[02:32] <bimberi> !info gproftpd
[02:32] <ubotu> gproftpd: GTK+ configuration tool for proftpd. In repository universe, is optional. Version 8.2.2-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 664 kB
[02:32] <bimberi> MetaMorfoziS: ^^^^^
[02:32] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[02:32] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: no idea. stefg: fdisk returns me to the prompt - it doesn't list anything
[02:32] <stefg> sudo fdisk -l
[02:32] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Check /dev/sdXX (a1, z5, etc.)
[02:34] <monomaniacpat> stefg: that worked. so I enter the linux partition to mount and get the same response
[02:34] <monomaniacpat>  cannot find in /etc/fstab /etc/mtab
[02:34] <monomaniacpat> it was hd1
[02:35] <stefg> monomaniacpat: paste the output to pastebin. You've got to tell the fs-type probably
[02:35] <decaf> hi, I have alternate install iso image in an ntfs partition. do we have an iso image mounter in installer?
[02:35] <monomaniacpat> I can't - the linux box isn't networked
[02:36] <stefg> so what partition is your root-fs on, which fiolesystem did you choose?
[02:36] <Warbo> I am off for a bit, bye
[02:36] <kditty> what is a good file browser to replace nautilis?
[02:36] <MetaMorfoziS> kditty: krusader
[02:36] <stefg> BTW a 'man mount' could be interesting to you, monomaniacpat
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> it's a kde/qt app, but i think it works on gnome
[02:37] <kditty> nautilis keeps crashing and after it crashes i cant load it until i reboot
[02:37] <monomaniacpat> stefg: got it networked (wrong encode) back in a minute.
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> kditty: www.kursader.org
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> i misstyped, but it's in repos
[02:37] <kditty> i looked it up in synaptic
[02:37] <MetaMorfoziS> k
[02:38] <fluxdude> does anybody know how to make mount -t cifs show all files and folders in lower case, I can't find anything in the man for this, nocase doesn't give this effect...
[02:38] <mjr> fluxdude, I would guess it's not possible
[02:38] <mjr> (without patching)
[02:39] <scheuri> hi all
[02:39] <ubuntu> orbin: all im doing is opeing gmix or going to all procceses on the task manager
[02:40] <VoX> !repos
[02:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:41] <monomaniacpat> stefg_away: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16751
[02:42] <monomaniacpat> hello?
[02:43] <rexkwondo> I have 6.06 installed on my desktop and laptop, and while both are connected to the internet wirelessly, they act differently.  By that I mean that the desktop is way more sluggish at times, even when on the same network.  For instance, if I go to google video and download anything over a minute long, there's a good chance that it will never complete.  Is there a setting aI can fiddle with to adjust this?  It loads pages well enough.
[02:44] <VoX> is there a list of repo locations anywhere?
[02:44] <monomaniacpat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16751 - anyone here able to tell me how to mount the HDD from a live CD?
[02:46] <kimo> monomaniacpat: sudo mkdir /media/hda1
[02:46] <kimo> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[02:46] <Ro1> how do i delete the file x from the terminal
[02:47] <maniacxs> hi, got a problem with oowriter on Breezy. after doing some work in small documents i get *** glibc detected *** free() ....
[02:47] <kdegel> anyone know of a torrent client that can load multiple torrents in the same window, not azureus, really dont like that
[02:47] <kimo> Alternativley you could add a line to /etc/fstab
[02:47] <mjr> Ro1, "rm x"
[02:47] <Ro1> thanks
[02:47] <NET||abuse> kdegel, i really quite like azureus it's well good
[02:48] <kdegel> see i just cant stand it, i used a bittorrent client awhile back that i thought was called bittorrent and you could load multiple torrents within the same window
[02:48] <orbin> !repos > orbin
[02:48] <NET||abuse> :( dunno sorry
[02:48] <monomaniacpat> ...OK, seems to work. Is it OK to leave this OS running with web browser/gaim open whilst I wait for my OS backup to extract?
[02:48] <kdegel> ahh its ok, thanks
[02:48] <orbin> something up w/ ubotu?  it's not responding to my PMs either
[02:49] <NET||abuse> orbin, prolly just disconnected
[02:49] <helpme> if my hdd has a I/O error in the superblock, is there a way to format that partition so that the bad sector is avoided, i dont want to throw out the disk
[02:49] <NET||abuse> bots need dt too ya know
[02:49] <rexkwondo> kdegel some folks use Opera (the newest) for bittorrenting
[02:49] <bimberi> !shockwave
[02:49] <ubotu> shockwave is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave
[02:50] <gwark> hello.   what is the partitioning tool called please? i keep forgetting it
[02:50] <kdegel> another question, i was trying to change the icon from launch menu from ubuntu to the gnome foot icon, well i deleted it, i have been trying to find one online but cant seem to
[02:50] <rexkwondo> gparted
[02:50] <gwark> thanku
[02:50] <kdegel> gwark, i think its called qparted
[02:50] <kdegel> aahh nm
[02:51] <monomaniacpat> kimo: Is it OK to leave this LiveCD OS running with web browser/gaim open whilst I wait for my OS backup to extract?
[02:51] <helpme> probably a bad thing to do to kill power while hdd is writing
[02:52] <fatouks> aaaa
[02:52] <fatouks> qqqqq
[02:52] <Ro1> i'm trying to save index.html to my /var/www directory in nvu....but it says i dont have permissions...how do i fix this
[02:52] <rexkwondo> gesundheit, fatouks
[02:52] <fatouks> aaaa
[02:53] <fatouks> ggg
[02:53] <Ro1> i'm trying to save index.html to my /var/www directory in nvu....but it says i dont have permissions...how do i fix this
[02:53] <rexkwondo> try it sudo, Rol
[02:54] <Ro1> ok
[02:54] <kditty> MetaMorfoziS, thanks this krusader is pretty nice. do you know if i can view my network with it... because places>network servers from toolbar just brings up a loading network dialog and then closes
[02:55] <rexkwondo> I have 6.06 installed on my desktop and laptop, and while both are connected to the internet wirelessly, they act differently.  By that I mean that the desktop is way more sluggish at times, even when on the same network.  For instance, if I go to google video and download anything over a minute long, there's a good chance that it will never complete.  Is there a setting I can fiddle with to adjust this?  It loads pages well enough.
[02:56] <edgy> Hi, when I create the site-wide mailing list mailman, should it appear on .../mailman/listinfo? In one system it shows. In the other it's not, but don't know how to control it!
[02:57] <stev_> i'v installed flash player 7 and still having problems with playing video's on cnet.com and zdnet.com
[02:58] <ali> hi does any one has a tutorial to set a router on ubuntu ?
[02:58] <edgy> Ali, generally you just plug the cable and it works ;)
[02:59] <NET||abuse> hmm, when you download ubuntu desktop, and burn the cd, do you install by booting into the live cd distro and then running an installer? or is there a normal install utility in the startup options.. i don't see one obviously
[02:59] <edgy> Ali: this is what router are about. Now how to configure a router is something not related to the distro but the router itself
[02:59] <gnomefreak> NET||abuse: is it the desktop cd or alternative cd?
[02:59] <Adium> Whats the package name for the Xgl transparancy effect?
[03:00] <NET||abuse> gnomefreak, i grabbbed the desktop
[03:00] <scheuri> NET||abuse: what you probably might find useful is the "alternate"-CD
[03:00] <kimo> monomaniacpat: yes running web& gaim from the live CD while extracting backup should be OK.
[03:00] <rexkwondo> NET||abuse the installer is on the desktop when the live cd is booted
[03:00] <gnomefreak> NET||abuse: the desktop cd only allows you to install from the live envionment
[03:00] <NET||abuse> rexkwondo, yeh, i reakoned that was the wya, just seems awfully heavy when all you wanna do is just install
[03:00] <rexkwondo> he's right about the alternate CD, tho
[03:00] <gnomefreak> NET||abuse: the text/alternative cd is the old installer you might be used to
[03:01] <NET||abuse> scheuri, i used the alternate cd last time round,, i'm just sorta trying out the desktop cd version
[03:01] <yur> good morning guyz
[03:01] <rexkwondo> hello
[03:01] <ara> the recovery this won't format the hard drive..
[03:01] <scheuri> NET||abuse: ah, sorry
[03:01] <Ro1> how do i get apache to run
[03:01] <ara> OEM recovery disk I mean..
[03:01] <ali> edgy i have two cards and i want to make share
[03:01] <NET||abuse> Ro1, did you apt-get install apache[2] 
[03:01] <ali> and pass the traffic from ubuntu dapper
[03:01] <Ro1> yes
[03:01] <Ro1> and i configured the httpd
[03:02] <Ro1> and i put my index file in var/www
[03:02] <NET||abuse> Ro1, well if ps axu| grep http doesn't show up nothing
[03:02] <Ro1> i'll try to localhost it again
[03:02] <NET||abuse> ?? is it there?
[03:02] <Adium> Whats the package name for the Xgl transparancy effect?
[03:02] <scheuri> Ro1: have you tried "sudo /etc/init.d/apache[2]  start"?
[03:02] <yur> any1 tried the new ati driverz on ati web site?
[03:02] <Ro1> ijust did the command you said
[03:02] <Ro1> admin     8599  0.0  0.0   2876   792 pts/0    R+   09:02   0:00 grep http
[03:02] <NET||abuse> Ro1, or just sudo apachectl start
[03:02] <edgy> Ali, check whether each pc has an ip and they can ping each other
[03:02] <NET||abuse> Ro1, yeh, ok, http isn't running
[03:03] <NET||abuse> Ro1, just do sudo apachectl start
[03:03] <Ro1> why not
[03:03] <Ro1> i did...that said it was running
[03:03] <ali> yes they can
[03:03] <NET||abuse> try ps aux | grep http or ps aux | grep apache
[03:03] <ali> one box have the ip 192.168.0.1
[03:03] <Ro1> admin@UBUNTUboxx:~$ sudo apachectl start
[03:03] <scheuri> Ro1: do "sudo /etc/init.d/apache[2]  stop" first and then a start again?
[03:03] <yur> any1 tried the new ati driverz on ati web site?
[03:03] <ali> second have 192.168.0.2
[03:04] <tuxmaniac> nalioth> ping
[03:04] <ali> edgy 1st have 192.168.0.1 second card have 192.168.0.2  and the second machine have 192.168.03
[03:04] <Ro1> i did that
[03:04] <ali> now 192.168.0.1 is connected to internet
[03:04] <Ro1> i'm trying to use apache...not apache2
[03:04] <ali> but 192.168.0.3 want to connect to internet through 192.168.0.2 how ?
[03:07] <yur> who have serious sam game working on ubuntu?
[03:07] <yur> i cant get it 2 work
[03:07] <redblades> Heya
[03:07] <yur> u have serious sam working?
[03:08] <redblades> how can I check the internet connection speed?
[03:10] <dxdemetriou> how can I change the Nautilus in Dapper to show all mounted devices on /media?
[03:10] <dxdemetriou> on Desktop?
[03:10] <bimberi> !icons
[03:10] <ubotu> Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[03:10] <bimberi> dxdemetriou: ^^^^
[03:11] <dxdemetriou> On Breezy if I make manually mount a partition, it appeared on desktop, but not on Dapper
[03:12] <NickGarvey> !sound
[03:12] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:13] <orbin> that's old ... there is no mmedia systems selector in the prefs menu anymore
[03:13] <redblades> NickGarvey: also, make sure that you are in the audio group
[03:15] <joe_september> hello peeps
[03:15] <Glimmerati> hi...I have recently installed gxine to watch DVD and VCD....but with gxine I can only watch DVD and mpg files but no VCD...
[03:16] <Terminus> hello. can anybody tell me how to mount a smb share as being owned by root:staff with permissions rwxrwxr-x? i tried sudo mount -t smbfs -o uid=0 gid=50 fmask=113 dmask=002 guest //crashdown/incoming crashdown/ but it doesn't work. i already have smbfs installed.
[03:16] <Glimmerati> can any one please advise me how can I watch VCD's (DAT type files) and wma and wmv files
[03:16] <dxdemetriou> I have second hard disk on my pc, and I don't want to be in fstab. When I try to mount the partition in /media folder, on Breezy it appeared on desktop, but not on Dapper.
[03:16] <joe_september> Terminus: hi...hav i seen ur nick b4? :)
[03:17] <Terminus> joe_september: hello. yep. in #ubuntu-ph. :)
[03:17] <joe_september> hi, has anybody here having problems with their ubuntu imstall regarding sound?
[03:17] <joe_september> *install
[03:17] <Ro1> !sound
[03:17] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[03:17] <ubuntu> how do i get rid of this stupid message  http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7YV3SC29.html
[03:17] <kbrooks> Ro1: old
[03:18] <Glimmerati> hi...I have recently installed gxine to watch DVD and VCD....but with gxine I can only watch DVD and mpg files but no VCD...
[03:18] <Ro1> ok
[03:18] <joe_september> Terminus: ah yes..of course :)
[03:18] <rexkwondo> I have 6.06 installed on my desktop and laptop, and while both are connected to the internet wirelessly, they act differently.  By that I mean that the desktop is way more sluggish at times, even when on the same network.  For instance, if I go to google video and download anything over a minute long, there's a good chance that it will never complete.  Is there a setting I can fiddle with to adjust this?  It loads pages well enough.
[03:18] <Ro1> whats the terminal commands to stop alsa
[03:19] <redblades> rexkwondo: Napleon dynamite fan by any chance?
[03:19] <NickGarvey> Ro1: /etc/init.d/alsa(hittab) stop
[03:19] <Nilsy> Ro1, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils stop
[03:19] <lophyte|s> anyone know if there's an RSS feed plugin for the gnome panel?
[03:19] <Ro1> thansk
[03:19] <scheuri> I am too slow for that channel..
[03:19] <joe_september> hmm
[03:19] <joe_september> don't seem to have the multimedia selector
[03:20] <lophyte|s> yes, no?
[03:20] <Terminus> isn't alsa actually a driver so it doesn't actually restart or stop? AFAIK, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils only reloads asound.state
[03:20] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M 1437G and my CPU keeps running at 800Mhz and the cpu frequency scaling isnt supported (says powernowd when starting) ... what can i do to get this working? Pentium M (centrino, 2ghz)
[03:20] <liran_> uhmm, octets are bytes right?
[03:20] <lophyte|s> essentially, yeah
[03:21] <liran_> so octets / 1000 = megabytes, right?
[03:21] <Glimmerati> hi...I have recently installed gxine to watch DVD and VCD....but with gxine I can only watch DVD and mpg files but no VCD...
[03:21] <lophyte|s> well, multiplied by 1000.. not divided by
[03:21] <Ro1> octet...that sounds like 8
[03:21] <Ro1> !octet
[03:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about octet
[03:21] <lophyte|s> it is Rol.. as in, 8 bits
[03:22] <Ro1> A byte composed of eight binary elements.
[03:22] <Ro1> yup
[03:22] <lophyte|s> an octet is usually used for IP addresses though, you don't usually refer to a byte as an octet
[03:22] <orbin> Glimmerati: have you installed w32codecs?
[03:22] <ariel_> morning
[03:22] <raal> hi
[03:22] <joe_september> hmm
[03:22] <joe_september> i'm getting confused
[03:22] <ariel_> what version of hte kernel is being used?
[03:22] <redblades> two niblles
[03:22] <Ro1> two nybbles=one byte
[03:22] <raal> i wanna know how to add Opera to my ubuntu
[03:23] <Ro1> download it
[03:23] <raal> ya
[03:23] <Ro1> from opera.com
[03:23] <liran_> yeah an octet is 8, a byte is composed of 8 bites. so 1 octet = 1 byte
[03:23] <lophyte|s> bah.. KDE has an rss reader panel applet..
[03:23] <Glimmerati> somebody early advised me to do so.....but HOW CAN I install w32codes?
[03:23] <raal> i download a deb file
[03:23] <joe_september> I have sound when I log in (at the GNOME panel)...but when I log inalready there IS no sound anymore
[03:23] <lophyte|s> Glimmerati, apt-get install w32codecs
[03:23] <raal> but can not install
[03:23] <Ro1> sudo it
[03:23] <lophyte|s> er, yeah
[03:23] <lophyte|s> sudo :)
[03:23] <raal> use dkpg -i *.deb?
[03:24] <joe_september> does anybody know why there's only sound at the logon screen? I'm using Dapper, the new CD's
[03:24] <liran_> anyhow, my point is. 10000 octets, to convert that to bytes then i divide the 10000 by 1000 not multiply.
[03:24] <Ro1> joe_september: i have the same problem
[03:24] <Glimmerati> is it a command...and I hav to run it?
[03:24] <inc|freaky> hi all. i have a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo M 1437G and my CPU keeps running at 800Mhz and the cpu frequency scaling isnt supported (says powernowd when starting) ... what can i do to get this working? Pentium M (centrino, 2ghz)
[03:24] <lophyte|s> 10000 octets would be approximately 10MB
[03:24] <Ro1> glimmerati: yes, in a terminal
[03:24] <lophyte|s> Glimmerati, or if you're not used to the command line, use the Synaptic package manager
[03:24] <joe_september> Rol: Hmm...no sound when logging in, right?
[03:25] <lophyte|s> system->administration->synaptic
[03:25] <Ro1> that used to be problem...then all of a sudden i dont have sound at all...not even in the live cd
[03:25] <orbin> Glimmerati: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5
[03:25] <liran_> lophyte|s: which supports my point. to convet from octets/bytes to megabytes ou need to devide
[03:25] <redblades> joe_september: is he a new user?
[03:25] <Hexidigital_> i get this error when trying to login to my new ssh server (reinstalled from dapper to breezy on same machine) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16752
[03:25] <Glimmerati> Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[03:25] <Glimmerati> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[03:25] <Glimmerati> is only available from another source
[03:25] <redblades> as in, has he been added?
[03:25] <redblades> or is he the main account?
[03:25] <lophyte> liran_, ah, right then...
[03:26] <joe_september> redblades: I'm sorry...are u referring to my account? :)
[03:26] <orbin> Glimmerati: it's not in the repos.  see the link i gave you
[03:26] <lophyte> liran_, if you had 500 octets/bytes and divided by 1000 you'd get 0.5MB which is correct
[03:26] <kdegel> can someone tell me how to change the menu icon from ubuntu to gnome foot
[03:26] <joe_september> Rol: I've also encountered problems after installation
[03:26] <Glimmerati> ok
[03:26] <redblades> joe_september: no
[03:26] <redblades> rol
[03:27] <Ro1> what
[03:27] <redblades> or ro1
[03:27] <joe_september> redblades: ah i see
[03:27] <kdegel> i have followed a few walkthroughs and it never changes
[03:27] <lophyte> anyone know of an rss feed reader for the gnome panel?
[03:27] <Brunno> how can i change the logo for the applications menu (main menu) ? it's the ubuntu logo by default but i'd like it to be the gnome foot logo...
[03:27] <joe_september> Brunno: hmmm
[03:27] <joe_september> Brunno, go to login, in system->preferences
[03:27] <kdegel> exactly brunno what im looking for
[03:27] <pennypacker> straw/rssowl
[03:27] <Hexidigital_> lophyte:: the gdeskets app has one
[03:28] <compengi> any one has more that one year uptime?
[03:28] <Brunno> joe_september and ?
[03:28] <joe_september> Brunno: Sorry, i meant System->Administation
[03:28] <Ro1> compengI: do you mean netowrk uptime? or deskotp uptime? (nope)
[03:28] <joe_september> Brunno: then Login Window :)
[03:28] <Brunno> joe_september i'm there, isn't this for gdm config ?
[03:28] <lophyte> Hexidigital_, thanks :)
[03:29] <Hexidigital_> lophyte:: np
[03:29] <compengi> rol, desktop
[03:29] <joe_september> Brunno: you wanted to change the default login screen, right? :)
[03:29] <Brunno> joe_september no
[03:29] <andyjeffries> How do I change the default application for a file extension/mime type.  If I right click and choose open with, it gets added to the list of applications to open that file with, but I can't change the default.
[03:29] <kdegel> no 'start' menu
[03:29] <bit_doidao> how to configure my palm zire 72 on Ubuntu?
[03:29] <Ro1> brunno wanted to change the icon to the left of applications
[03:29] <Brunno> yep
[03:29] <joe_september> oh...
[03:30] <joe_september> I'm sorry...my mistake :)
[03:30] <Brunno> tried some things already but none worked... :(
[03:30] <astro_-> yessss, I finally worked around my problem
[03:30] <Schalken> How come in Gaim Ctrl+Z minimizes the window?
[03:30] <NET||abuse> hahaha, installer is going to reformat the following partitions, hda5, hda7, this will destroy all data on these partition,,, i click next and the screen saver starts.....  is that like, "here goes nothing..... don't look!!"
[03:30] <astro_-> apparently my HDD was too large, had to create a 50mb /boot partition
[03:30] <Hexidigital_> someone with ssh experience, please help me with -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16752
[03:30] <Brunno> anyone have any idea ? -> how can i change the logo for the applications menu (main menu) ? it's the ubuntu logo by default but i'd like it to be the gnome foot logo...
[03:31] <kdegel> still looking for the same answer as Brunno
[03:31] <Ro1> brunno: i'm still looking..
[03:31] <NET||abuse> astro_-, was that just grub stopped loading?
[03:31] <dxdemetriou> The problem I have is when one partition is mounted on other disk on pc, it disappeared from Places/Computer
[03:31] <NET||abuse> astro_-, cause you could just used the live cd and done grub setup(hda,0) and gotit working again
[03:31] <astro_-> NET||abuse: yeah, I got first "Loading stage 1.5Read Error" and then after some tweakin "Error 18"
[03:32] <joe_september> Rol: hmm..were u able to solve the sound problem? :)
[03:32] <kdegel> i know its something with the /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps at least thats what i think, but still cant frickin get it to work
[03:32] <bit_doidao> Hexidigital_, propably, the server at the other side had changed the rsa keys for you
[03:32] <astro_-> NET||abuse: tried that
[03:32] <NET||abuse> error 18, yeh that's right..
[03:32] <astro_-> didn't help
[03:32] <NET||abuse> oh?? i got that last week.. sorted with the setup() command no bother
[03:32] <Hexidigital_> bit_doidao:: yes, do you know how to fix that in my ~/ssh/known_hosts file?
[03:32] <bit_doidao> Hexidigital_, so its no matching with the exist one in you /home/user/.ssh/knows_host
[03:32] <Ro1> joe_september: yes...i cant figure it out
[03:32] <astro_-> so can someone explain to me why GRUB takes like 5 minutes to load now?
[03:32] <bit_doidao> Hexidigital_, simply delete the line displayed there
[03:32] <astro_-> NET||abuse: any ideas on that one? :)
[03:33] <Hexidigital_> bit_doidao:: tyvm :)
[03:33] <tritium> astro_-: what did you change?
[03:33] <Hexidigital_> bit_doidao:: i thought of that, but didn't want to create more problems
[03:33] <bit_doidao> Hexidigital_, rm /home/gbarber/.ssh/known_hosts:1
[03:33] <NET||abuse> astro_-, well, what is your normal hda layout? is / on hda0?
[03:33] <bit_doidao> ops, rm /home/gbarber/.ssh/known_hosts
[03:33] <joe_september> Rol: somebody suggested I reinstall it again...but I jst wann figure it out if it's a driver or hardware problem :(
[03:33] <astro_-> tritium: I created a 50mb /boot partition.. it didn't work before that at all :)
[03:33] <jacopoexchange> hi, i just got a new asus laptop. wiress works on i386 kernel, but doesn't in the i686. any help?
[03:33] <Brunno> kdegel tried this already, it worked in breezy like this... but somehow in dapper it wont work...
[03:33] <Ro1> i'm pretty sure its hardware..cause mine used to work
[03:33] <tritium> astro_-: you did this post install?
[03:33] <NET||abuse> astro_-, alot of people just don't realize that the second arg in setup() is the partion id you need to point at.
[03:33] <astro_-> NET||abuse: no, / is on hdb3 I thinks
[03:33] <Wesselaar> yo
[03:33] <KenSentMe> How can i use wget to download all files from a domain?
[03:33] <newbie_joe> Rol: yeah
[03:33] <astro_-> tritium: no, I reinstalled the whole thing
[03:34] <NET||abuse> astro_-, so did you use setup(hdb, 2) as your command?
[03:34] <kdegel> Brunno, i know its so lame, i dont know why its not just at the right-click like kde
[03:34] <Ro1> anyone know how to reinstall alsa?
[03:34] <astro_-> NET||abuse: when?
[03:34] <newbie_joe> Rol: hmm..synaptic?
[03:34] <astro_-> NET||abuse: I just did it with the install CD
[03:34] <d-s-d> hi
[03:34] <Schalken> anyone know why Gaim minimizes the chat window when I press Ctrl+Z?
[03:34] <kdegel> Brunno, and thats one thing that kind of annoys me about ubuntu is how things dont seem to work like other linux's
[03:34] <astro_-> NET||abuse: didn't use grub command line at all
[03:34] <Brunno> kdegel in xfce its actually right click on them menu too... :)
[03:34] <Ro1> doubt its one theree joe
[03:34] <newbie_joe> Rol: apt-get install alsa
[03:34] <kdegel> yup
[03:34] <d-s-d> How can I change the resolution after booting from the liveCD?
[03:34] <Wesselaar> ro1
[03:34] <NET||abuse> astro_-, wel grub command line was what gottit for me without a hitch..
[03:34] <Wesselaar> Synaptic
[03:35] <d-s-d> The ScreenResolution-Tool only displays "640x480" which sucks.
[03:35] <kdegel> Brunno, otherwise i do like ubunutu in a lot of ways, just a couple little things like this
[03:35] <astro_-> NET||abuse: do you have a big HDD?
[03:35] <jacopoexchange> hi, i just got a new asus laptop. wiress works on i386 kernel, but doesn't in the i686. any help?
[03:35] <Schalken> d-s-d: System->Prefrences->Screen Resolution?
[03:35] <tritium> newbie_joe: no
[03:35] <NET||abuse> astro_-, not really,, 80 GB laptop driver
[03:35] <tritium> Ro1: why do you want to do that?
[03:35] <NET||abuse> s/r//
[03:35] <d-s-d> Schalken, that's what I tried. But the tool only lists 640x480.
[03:35] <compengi> d-s-d, go to system then preference then screen resolution
[03:35] <astro_-> NET||abuse: so we probably have/had a different problemm :)
[03:35] <Schalken> d-s-d: probably doesnt have other listings in the xconf file.
[03:35] <orbin> jacopoexchange: doesn't work how?
[03:35] <d-s-d> I changed the xorg.conf file.
[03:35] <astro_-> NET||abuse: I suspect this is related to the fact that the HDD is 320GB
[03:36] <tritium> jacopoexchange: you may have linux-restricted-modules install only for your 386 kernel
[03:36] <Hexidigital_> bit_doidao:: thanks again... i usually DO miss the obvious :)
[03:36] <NET||abuse> astro_-, but my / partition was 26GB, and this problem seems to appear on drives with /boot parts over 5Gb according to professor google
[03:36] <jacopoexchange> thanks a lot"
[03:36] <jacopoexchange> !
[03:36] <ubotu> Hello, I'm the friendly ubuntu info bot. I respond to messages starting with !, please don't start a message with ! unless you want to ask me something.
[03:36] <pennypacker> xorg.conf: the key to succes
[03:36] <Schalken> d-s-d: so it has other resolutions in the 'display' section? hmm...
[03:36] <astro_-> NET||abuse: that depends on your BIOS
[03:36] <tritium> jacopoexchange: did you install your 686 kernel via "sudo apt-get install linux-686"?  If not, please do so.
[03:36] <d-s-d> yep, there are other resolutions.
[03:36] <Schalken> d-s-d: dunno then.
[03:36] <NET||abuse> astro_-, yup.. i suppose so..
[03:36] <astro_-> aanyways, I need to figure out now why grub boots so slowly
[03:36] <bit_doidao> Hexidigital_, no problem. The important is to learn and share the knwoledge ;)
[03:37] <kdegel> so Brunno you want to ask the question again
[03:37] <jacopoexchange> tritium, i will, thanks
[03:37] <astro_-> I guess I need to sit here for the five minutes to see if any error message comes up
[03:37] <Schalken> bit_doidao: amen!
[03:37] <NET||abuse> astro_-, is it cause your pc is a deisel engine of a relic?
[03:37] <bit_doidao> Schalken, =)
[03:37] <compengi> d-s-d, is your vga driver installed?
[03:37] <astro_-> NET||abuse: YES, how did you know ;)
[03:37] <NET||abuse> astro_-, and by slowly... what do you mean?
[03:37] <d-s-d> "my" vga-driver?
[03:37] <astro_-> NET||abuse: like five minutes
[03:37] <d-s-d> Its an ati-card, i think.
[03:37] <compengi> yes
[03:38] <compengi> O.o i forgot it's live
[03:38] <d-s-d> It worked pretty well under freebsd/X.org.
[03:38] <NET||abuse> astro_-, ok, so we're not talking just grub, we're talkin the whole desktop load up? to login promt?
[03:38] <tritium> astro_-: which install did you use?  LiveCD?
[03:38] <astro_-> tritium: yes
[03:38] <Schalken> d-s-d: that COULD be your problem. i think there was something in the wiki about resolution problems with radeons.
[03:38] <Brunno> anyone have any idea ? -> how can i change the logo for the applications menu (main menu) ? it's the ubuntu logo by default but i'd like it to be the gnome foot logo...
[03:38] <Wanderer> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBSLMGNHuGM
[03:38] <Ro1> joe: no luck
[03:38] <NET||abuse> astro_-, s/promt/prompt/
[03:38] <Wanderer> bah, wrong window
[03:38] <astro_-> NET||abuse: nah, it gets stuck at "Loading Grub" for like 5 mins
[03:38] <compengi> d-s-d, btw did you choose a correct live cd for your pc?
[03:38] <NET||abuse> astro_-, oh.. pants... :(
[03:39] <ompaul> Wanderer, I was going to ask what that had to do with Ubuntu support
[03:39] <Schalken> Brunno: why do you want the gnome foot there anyways?
[03:39] <Ro1> anyone know how to fix the problem with sound when it plays for a day then randomyl wont play again?
[03:39] <d-s-d> compengi, i think so. I've got a an athlon64-X2 and i've chosen the amd64-image.
[03:39] <NET||abuse> astro_-, do oyu have live 12 drives in your machine?
[03:39] <d-s-d> btw, does ubuntu support multi-core?
[03:39] <kdegel> the question Schalken is why not
[03:39] <ompaul> astro_-, so noapic
[03:39] <tritium> d-s-d: yes
[03:39] <Ro1> Schalken: i dont htink you should question his idea
[03:39] <astro_-> NET||abuse: :DD  Nope, 3 HDDs and 2 cds
[03:39] <Brunno> Schalken because ! :)
[03:39] <ompaul> NET||abuse, ^^
[03:39] <Schalken> kdegel: youve got me there. there should be a way.
[03:39] <Ro1> anyone know how to fix the problem with sound when it plays for a day then randomyl wont play again?
[03:40] <astro_-> ompaul: huh?
[03:40] <tritium> Ro1: please don't repeat
[03:40] <Hexidigital_> !version
[03:40] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[03:40] <kdegel> its should be very easy to
[03:40] <Stroganoff> Brunno, gconf-edito -> apps -> panel
[03:40] <Stroganoff> there u can specify the image
[03:40] <NET||abuse> just tryin this live cd setup myself now... yawnn instlal slowly..
[03:40] <Brunno> Stroganoff tried... wont work...
[03:40] <ompaul> astro_-, have a look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[03:40] <Stroganoff> it work's for me, brunno
[03:40] <Ro1> straonganoff: what folder is gconf in
[03:40] <NET||abuse> hope grub doesn't gank up like yours has astro_-
[03:41] <Stroganoff> Ro1, /usr/bin i presume
[03:41] <astro_-> :D
[03:41] <Ro1> ok
[03:41] <astro_-> thanks gusy
[03:41] <astro_-> guys
[03:41] <astro_-> for the empathy ;)
[03:41] <NET||abuse> hehe, my friend had a dog called gusy
[03:41] <compengi> d-s-d, http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/
[03:41] <Stroganoff> alt+f2 -> gconf-editor
[03:41] <ompaul> NET||abuse, well I installed 6.06 from an external DVD rom
[03:41] <tritium> Ro1: it's in your path, so it doesn't matter
[03:41] <compengi> d-s-d, download the desktop one
[03:41] <NET||abuse> ompaul, aha.. was it dog slow?
[03:42] <Brunno> Stroganoff isnt this to mark use custom icon and put the path and so ? it wont work here...
[03:42] <ompaul> NET||abuse, no, I think I spent about 40 minutes to an hour to get it and all the packages on  it
[03:42] <compengi> d-s-d, from the top ones
[03:42] <kdegel> Stroganoff, i am not seeing where to change it in there
[03:42] <newbie_joe> Rol: ok..i'm doing some fixing on myown...i'll let u know if sumthing comes up :)
[03:42] <Stroganoff> apps -> panel -> applets
[03:42] <NET||abuse> ompaul, ok,, fiar nuff, i'm only waiting 10 minutes.. and it's at 97%
[03:42] <d-s-d> yep, i've chosen the third.
[03:42] <compengi> d-s-d, under the desktop category
[03:42] <ompaul> NET||abuse, faster machine
[03:42] <Ro1> newbiejoe: ok....do you have aim or something like jabber
[03:42] <NET||abuse> 3 years old machine.. laptop
[03:43] <d-s-d> compengi, yep
[03:43] <ompaul> NET||abuse, on a box yesterday - faster internal ide CD
[03:43] <Brunno> Stroganoff im there...
[03:43] <compengi> d-s-d, you downloaded this one?
[03:43] <newbie_joe> Rol: hmm...no jabber yet
[03:43] <Ro1> ok
[03:43] <Schalken> has anyone had any problems with a geforce 6200 by any chance?
[03:43] <d-s-d> compengi, yes
[03:43] <ompaul> NET||abuse, last part dog slow - flew through the first parts
[03:43] <compengi> weird
[03:43] <newbie_joe> Rol: you can pm me anyway
[03:43] <Ro1> bbl...mom made breakfast (i'm 14 yrs old...no one guessed)
[03:44] <Ro1> ok
[03:44] <andyjeffries> How do I change the default application for a file extension/mime type.  If I right click and choose open with, it gets added to the list of applications to open that file with, but I can't change the default.
[03:44] <NET||abuse> ompaul, yeh, it's takin alot longer to go from 97% to 98% now
[03:44] <d-s-d> And the graphics card (onboard) is based on Radeon 9600.
[03:44] <compengi> Schalken, what is the problem
[03:44] <ompaul> NET||abuse, ctrl alt f3?
[03:44] <ompaul> anyway work beckons
[03:44] <Schalken> andyjeffries: in the file properties i think, you can get to a list of applicaitons a tick which should be default.
[03:44] <d-s-d> Is there a way I can restart the X-Server on the liveCD?
[03:45] <compengi> d-s-d, are you sure that os sees the radeon 9600?
[03:45] <Schalken> compengi: i dont have one, but i will. i want to make sure there wont be any compatability problems with it ;)
[03:45] <Stroganoff> Brunno, sry it's panel -> objects
[03:45] <tritium> Schalken: you'd think he'd wait around for an answer!
[03:45] <Stroganoff> then find the object with "oject-tye"=menu-object
[03:45] <d-s-d> compengi, well, the X-server is configured with the "ati"-Driver in the Device section for the graphics card.
[03:45] <compengi> i have fx 5500
[03:45] <Stroganoff> there u go
[03:46] <Schalken> tritium: yeah
[03:46] <jacopoexchange> tritium, thanks, i just installed everything and everything works fine
[03:46] <compengi> Schalken, i have no problem with it
[03:46] <kdegel> Stroganoff, panel -> default_setup -> opbects?
[03:46] <tritium> jacopoexchange: good deal
[03:46] <Schalken> compengi: cool :D
[03:46] <compengi> Schalken, and you can update the driver if needed
[03:46] <Stroganoff> kdegel, no panel -> objects
[03:47] <d-s-d> actually, i wouldn't care so much about the resoluation - i can stick with that problem after the installation. But the problem is, that the installer-window does not fit on a screen with 640x480.
[03:47] <ifu> join #ubuntu-cn
[03:47] <Schalken> d-s-d: i dont mean to be mean (are they spelt differently) but thats kinda funny
[03:47] <monomaniacpa1> I was restoring from a tarball using this guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 and it suddenly said it had run out of space on the hdd... :( I had to quit and now I can't boot
[03:47] <kdegel> Stroganoff, apps - panel - objects ? cause i dont have that
[03:48] <Stroganoff> ok you never altered anything?
[03:48] <d-s-d> Schalken, what is funny?
[03:48] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: boot into rescue (singlue user) mode, and make space
[03:48] <Stroganoff> use default_setup -> objects
[03:48] <kdegel> d-s-d, i had this problem, had to install under the safe mode or whatever its called
[03:48] <d-s-d> ah, the window-thing... yep, but it's also annoying. :)
[03:48] <Schalken> monomaniacpa1: maybe boot off the live cd and see if you can mount your harddrive
[03:48] <kdegel> Schalken, not funny
[03:48] <d-s-d> kdegel, do i have to reboot to get into the "safe mode"?
[03:48] <Ro1> newbiejoe: get my pm?
[03:49] <compengi> d-s-d,  yes
[03:49] <compengi> d-s-d, under the kernel
[03:49] <newbie_joe> Rol: sorry..didn;t come up
[03:49] <Ro1> hmm..what client you using
[03:49] <kdegel> d-s-d, are you installing ubunutu?
[03:49] <monomaniacpa1> Schalken: that's what I was doing when I got the problem.
[03:49] <d-s-d> kdegel, of course i'm installing ubuntu. :)
[03:49] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: see my reply above
[03:49] <compengi> d-s-d, their is a thing called safe mode
[03:49] <tritium> there, not their
[03:49] <kdegel> just making sure
[03:50] <kdegel> thats what i had to do
[03:50] <kdegel> i had the same problem you had with the resolution
[03:50] <scheuri> anyone good with tar? I would like to tar my whole /home/[user]  and preserve the chmod's of dirs/files within that archive...is that possible?
[03:50] <Ro1> !ask
[03:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:50] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: there should be plenty of space - it is virtually an entire 40gb hdd overwriting all files already on there... :-?
[03:50] <kdegel> its not safe mode, its like safe....something, i dont know its the other installer
[03:50] <D-Man_> at the partition stage with Ubuntu install disk, setting up dual boot, if I resize single drive - does installer know not to wreck the windows install on that drive ?
[03:50] <Schalken> monomaniacpa1: hmm, running out of space on the hdd wont let you boot off the livecd. dunno why that would be, i thought the livecd was supposed to not even need a hdd.
[03:50] <newbie_joe> Rol: do u have IM?
[03:51] <Ro1> yeah
[03:51] <monomaniacpa1> Schalken: no... I can run a live cd I can't now get back to hdd OS
[03:51] <Ro1> aim...gtalk...jabber...irc
[03:51] <Schalken> monomaniacpa1: can you mount your hdd?
[03:51] <Schalken> monomaniacpa1: (from the livecd)
[03:51] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: boot into single user mode, and investigate.  Handy commands include df -h and du -h
[03:51] <monomaniacpa1> how do I get it to extract the tarball successfully? I had mounted the harddrive to extract last time
[03:52] <d-s-d> ok, thx a lot for help. i'll try to fix the problem. If I can't, i will try the safe mode.
[03:52] <Ro1> newbiejoe: got aim..gtalk...jabber..irc?
[03:52] <compengi> D-Man_, you should choose the driver that you want to install ubuntu on, like me i have 2 os at the sametime
[03:52] <D-Man_> there is only one drive
[03:52] <compengi> D-Man_, but you have to make a seperate for linux
[03:52] <D-Man_> it isn't partitioned yet
[03:52] <kdegel> Stroganoff, i am still not seeing where to change the icon, in the objects dir theres browser_launcher email_launcher manu_launcher and session_launcher
[03:53] <newbie_joe> Ro1, hmmgtalk
[03:53] <kdegel> still not able to see where to change it
[03:53] <D-Man_> that is my question  :)
[03:53] <Ro1> just partition...then install ubuntu on the partitioned space
[03:53] <newbie_joe> Rol: k...gimme a sec
[03:53] <Ro1> newbiejoe: whats your gtalk address
[03:53] <monomaniacpa1> can you remind me of the command to mount the hdd?
[03:53] <m1ckeyknox> morning folks. :) trying to install ubuntu server 6.06 on an old machine as a dev server for LAMP.
[03:53] <D-Man_> it won't wreck the current windows system installed on that drive ?
[03:53] <compengi> D-Man_, the extansion of the driver should be ext3 and another one shoud be swap
[03:53] <Ro1> d-man:if you instal on new partition windoze wil be fine
[03:53] <Schalken> D-Man_: resizing your windows partition wont wreck windows. unless you resize it so low that it cant fit its data in.
[03:53] <m1ckeyknox> running into an issue where the installer keeps cycling back to "partition disks"
[03:53] <monomaniacpa1> do I mount only one partition or what?
[03:53] <D-Man_> ty - all
[03:54] <compengi> D-Man_, np
[03:54] <compengi> D-Man_, just resize your partition
[03:55] <Ro1> newbiejoe:whats your gmail address
[03:55] <m1ckeyknox> anybody have any suggestions?
[03:56] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: does it say anything before it going back to partitioning, maybe giving a hint as to what the problem is?
[03:56] <kdegel> anyone know how to change the icon next to applications next to the menu (start menu in win terms)
[03:57] <DrBanzai> Seems no one is awake over in the #sparc channel, so I'll try here too.  My install hangs at the Freeing kernel memory message...any idea why?
[03:57] <orbin> kdegel: might be worth asking in #gnome
[03:57] <m1ckeyknox> nope. if I hit "finish partition and write changes" it just comes back... so I hit "go back" and it goes back to the install menu with the options... and if I select anything further down than "partition" it goes to partition
[03:57] <monomaniacpa1> how do I mount a hdd part off live cd?
[03:57] <kdegel> thanks orbin
[03:57] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: you're not going to boot into single user mode, like I suggested?
[03:58] <m1ckeyknox> oh... take that back... if I select a timezone... then it will let me select eastern... then it goes to "Startup up the partitioner" and I'm back to "partition disks"
[03:58] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I don't understand the point. I want to extract the tarball - I don't know how I'd find out why it didn't work...
[03:58] <m1ckeyknox> two drives... 1 @ 6.5 gb 2nd @ 3.2 gb
[03:58] <gavinchappell> DrBanzai: Do you have a URL for the ubuntu sparc port? I've got a blade 100 sat here just waiting to have something done to it
[03:58] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: the point would be to fix your problem, but if you don't want to...
[03:59] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: uhm, is timezoning after partitioning?
[03:59] <DrBanzai> gavinchappell, No, not off hand anyway, I've just got a little ole IPX I want to use as my secondary DNS server...
[03:59] <m1ckeyknox> yes.... it goes partitioning then timezone....
[03:59] <jwickard> I'm trying to pass some paramaters to my alsa driver, should those paramaters just be added to /etc/modprobe.d/options?
[03:59] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: also, it takes an age to load the live cd, so if I could just check the tarball is still there.... If it isn't there's no point in rebooting. How do I mount the hdd, please?
[04:00] <kbrooks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1195079#post1195079
[04:00] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: are you installing alongside another OS, or wiping the HDD?
[04:00] <m0gsi> Hey guys what command tells you what disks you have mounted?
[04:00] <m1ckeyknox> just trying to wipe... there's nothing that matters on the machine
[04:01] <DrBanzai> m0gsi, Uhm...mount
[04:01] <jojopaderes> Anybody here who encountered some difficulties using netgear wgr311 on Ubuntu 6.06?
[04:01] <D-Man_> during partition resize, is the screen supposed to be blue/blank?  No progress meter or anything else ?
[04:01] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: probably best post it in the forums.
[04:01] <DrBanzai> m0gsi, Or, if you do fdisk -l it will list the hard drives installed, weather they are mounted or not
[04:01] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: i really cannot think of why it would do that.
[04:01] <m0gsi> Well someone a while back gave me a command that viewed everything mounted and how much free space there was
[04:02] <DrBanzai> m0gsi, Oh, that's df
[04:02] <Schalken> m0sgsi: is that the same as going to places -> computer?
[04:02] <m0gsi> ahh yeh thnks
[04:02] <Absenth> What is the link to the restricted formats wiki, and the flash how-to
[04:02] <monomaniacpa1> anyone know how to mount a partition on a live cd?
[04:02] <DrBanzai> m0gsi, or df -h for human readable
[04:02] <lophyte> !mp3
[04:02] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:02] <m0gsi> Thats the one he gave me thanks
[04:02] <m0gsi> Schalken i have no gui
[04:02] <DrBanzai> m0gsi, No problem
[04:03] <Lingo> Absenth: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:03] <Schalken> m0gsi: oh. :p
[04:03] <m0gsi> :P
[04:03] <astro_-> hmm, sorry I lied before. It doesn't take 5 minutes for GRUB to load, it takes F***IN 13 minutes and 45 seconds!
[04:03] <Lingo> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for a link
[04:03] <astro_-> ararrrggh
[04:03] <Schalken> !language
[04:03] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[04:03] <Absenth> Lingo: thank you.
[04:03] <Lingo> YOu're welcome.
[04:04] <Schalken> astro_-: you have installed ubuntu alongside another OS(s) and it takes that long before the grub OS menu comes up?
[04:04] <astro_-> Schalken: yep, I have W2K on hda and ubuntu on hdb
[04:05] <Lingo> Absenth: The flash HOWTO can be found somewhere on the wiki, just use the search box in the upper-right hand corner.
[04:05] <astro_-> and it takes 13 minutes and 45 seconds before the OS menu comes up
[04:05] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: could it be an issue where I should partition things first?
[04:05] <m1ckeyknox> the system "has" a borked install of 2k on it...
[04:05] <Schalken> borked?
[04:05] <gavinchappell> astro_-: please don't think I'm being patronising, but do you have any CDs in your drive? if I leave a scratched CD in the drive then Grub spends ages trying to read the CD before it shows me the menu
[04:05] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: not working
[04:06] <astro_-> gavinchappell: thanks for the hint, but no CD's in the drive
[04:06] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: could be. maybe wipe the hdd first.
[04:06] <m1ckeyknox> but I figured it would just reformat it... am I assuming too much?
[04:06] <astro_-> I can hear the HDD working during the time grub is loading up
[04:06] <m1ckeyknox> k. I'll try that.
[04:06] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: no, it should reformat it itself. but it could be trying to be intelligent by trying to read a borked windows partition
[04:07] <monomaniacpa1> I googled for it in the end... :'(;)
[04:07] <Lingo> Absenth: THe flash howto doesn't seem to exist, but you can find useful info on the RestrictedFormats page.
[04:07] <astro_-> Schalken: so have you heard of similar problems before, or why did you ask?
[04:07] <chillywilly> anyone know of how you can run command or scripts before and after hibernation wih gnome-power-manager?
[04:08] <Ro1> newbiejoe: still here?
[04:08] <chillywilly> s/and/or/
[04:08] <Schalken> astro_-: because i like hearing about the problems people. have ;)
[04:08] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:08] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:08] <astro_-> Schalken: well, I guess this is a good channel to sit on then :)
[04:08] <kalosaurusrex> !repositories
[04:08] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:08] <kalosaurusrex> !easysource > kalosaurusrex
[04:08] <astro_-> Schalken: have you heard of any solutions to the problem? ;)
[04:09] <kalosaurusrex> !easysource
[04:09] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[04:09] <monomaniacpa1> is .bz2 a legit extension or does it have to be .tar.bz2?
[04:09] <Lingo> !ubotu
[04:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[04:09] <Schalken> astro_-: not your problem specifically, no.
[04:09] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: it is a bzip2 extension
[04:09] <gnomefreak> monomaniacpa1: bz2 is legit
[04:10] <Lingo> Nice to know the IRC people have a sense of humor.
[04:10] <monomaniacpa1> fine, good. I'm going to try extracting from grub instead, as I can't load the operating system, even in recovery - that sound OK?
[04:11] <astro_-> Lingo: don't make such blatent generalizations. That's racism. Not all of us have a sense of humor!
[04:11] <maniacxs> hi, got a problem with oowriter on Breezy. after doing some work in small documents i get *** glibc detected *** free() .... any ideas how to fix it?
[04:11] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: no
[04:11] <Lingo> astro_-: sorry. How was I being racist?
[04:11] <monomaniacpa1> tritium... OK - what do you suggest?#
[04:11] <slackern> Hey guys, just got a little problem i've been thinking off, i use 1 SATA harddrive and sometimes when there are kernel updates it changes my grub conf to hd(1,4) instead of hd(0,4) which it should be, it's easilly fixed but just a little annoyance, any ideas about this?
[04:11] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: I've already told you
[04:11] <monomaniacpa1> well then I don't know what that means
[04:11] <D-Man_> having some trouble with this partition process
[04:11] <astro_-> Lingo: never mind
[04:11] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: but further, you can't run bzip from grub
[04:12] <monomaniacpa1> ..ahhh...
[04:12] <D-Man_> is it better to use knoppix w/gparted or ubuntu install disk for this?
[04:12] <monomaniacpa1> how do you run single user mode?
[04:12] <kosmo`> you tell me
[04:12] <astro_-> Lingo: I was trying to be funny, but failed miserably
[04:12] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: at boot, you can select it from the grub menu
[04:12] <Lingo> oh
[04:12] <astro_-> Lingo: like I said, not all of us have a sense of humor :)
[04:12] <monomaniacpa1> just hit esc?
[04:12] <tritium> ~~/win12
[04:13] <orbin> D-Man_: same end result. usually only use gparted if something goes wrong w/ installer.  what's  the issue?
[04:13] <peacekeeper> why you think the net was booorn ?
[04:13] <peacekeeper> porn! porn! porn!
[04:13] <D-Man_> orbin:  private window or here?
[04:13] <Schalken> peacekeeper: i swa that lol
[04:13] <tritium> peacekeeper: cut it out
[04:13] <gnomefreak> peacekeeper: stick to the topic of the channel please
[04:13] <peacekeeper> lol ok :D
[04:13] <astro_-> :D
[04:13] <orbin> D-Man_: here is best
[04:14] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: giving this: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/livecd/main/livecd.htm a shot... then I'll run the installer again
[04:14] <D-Man_> k.. I get to manual partition -> IDE1 master and #1 primary shows (same disk)
[04:14] <D-Man_> so I choose #1
[04:14] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: if the livecd is working with an internet connection you should be able to get gparted through synaptic.
[04:14] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I don't understand... it's not under the grub boot menu - all I have is normal, recovery and memtest? what is win32
[04:14] <D-Man_> it shows 40 gigs so I set for 25 gigs and write it
[04:15] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: thats what i did anyways.
[04:15] <D-Man_> then I have option to finish partitioning and write changes to disk
[04:15] <D-Man_> when I select that.. it just refreshes the screen
[04:15] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: recovery mode is the same as single user mode
[04:15] <Lingo> I have a theme that I want to get into the next release; it has no original elements but is a combination of three different themes. I have an index.theme, how do I submit it to the devs? It's called Clumango, after it's three parents.
[04:15] <orbin> D-Man_: are you resizing an ntfs partition?
[04:15] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: then I can't load it
[04:15] <Cer58> Hi there =) I installed ubuntu yesterday, one question: can I move the /home directory to another partition?
[04:15] <D-Man_> all I can do is "go back" to main menu
[04:15] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: have you tried?
[04:15] <D-Man_> yes
[04:15] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: is there a server livecd for ubuntu?
[04:16] <monomaniacpa1> it was halfway through rewriting the hdd files when it failed, remember!
[04:16] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: usually, when you run out of space, booting fails becuase you can't run gdm
[04:16] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: forgive me... I'm not quite as versed with linux as I should be. ;-)
[04:16] <orbin> D-Man_: did you defrag the disk beforehand?
[04:16] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: you need to describe the problem more clearly, then
[04:16] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: there is a server cd. whether its a live cd or not like the desktop one though i am not sure.
[04:16] <enursha> Hello, can some one help mr with my modprobe, im having to add ndiswrapper ive time i startup even though it sez its already bin added to the file.
[04:16] <D-Man_> yes but someone used it a bit ... re-defrag
[04:16] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: in singlue user mode, you don't run gdm, so it usually works when you've run out of space
[04:17] <WooD> Hi ! I have an easy question for you guys.. What is the Keyboard shortcut for UBUNTU to swich workstation desktop ?
[04:17] <Schalken> WooD: Ctrl+Alt+Left or rIGHT
[04:17] <orbin> D-Man_: dunno tbh.  sounds like a possible bug.  yeah, probably best to just try the knoppix/gparted method
[04:17] <WooD> Schalken: Thanks  !
[04:18] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: it has a load of permission denied's and then boots to root@ubuntu prompt
[04:18] <D-Man_> orbin:  will redo the defrag and try knoppix
[04:18] <Schalken> WooD: and just so you know, Ctrl+Alt+Shift+(left or right) to move the window across!
[04:18] <Lingo> Schalken: Thanks. I was wondering the same thing, but I thought I could figure it out myself. :)
[04:18] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: you're in single-user mode?
[04:19] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I don't know, I'm just at a command prompt - I thought recovery was like windows safe mode (has a gui)
[04:19] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: df -h will tell you how much free space you have on the drive
[04:19] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: no, no gui
[04:19] <WooD> Schalken: tested thanks ! :)
[04:20] <monomaniacpa1> it says I have used 57%
[04:20] <WooD> Any know how to run Outlook 2003 into ubuntu ?
[04:20] <monomaniacpa1> 15 gb free... this still sounds like more than should be used... :-?
[04:20] <tritium> WooD: most use evolution instead
[04:20] <Clownish> hey! is there a away to install ubuntu without gnome, and with fluxbox?  can i just downlaod the server install and install fluxbox manualy? or will thi scause problems? sorry for my english.
[04:20] <lingo> WooD: WINE, but it's a devil to setup
[04:21] <tritium> Clownish: server install, then install fluxbox (one way)
[04:21] <monomaniacpa1> might it be that if I use a breezy backup on a dapper partition that it needlessly duplicates many files?
[04:21] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: nope
[04:21] <morphix> WooD, use thunderbird instead, bugger outlook
[04:21] <Felipe096> hola
[04:21] <WooD> lingo: Really ? did you tried yourself ?... and if I want to sync my pocket PC at it .. is it gonna work ?
[04:21] <Felipe096> hi
[04:21] <monomaniacpa1> :-/
[04:21] <WooD> morphix: thanks
[04:21] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: any ideas, then?
[04:21] <peacekeeper> anyone using citrix for win apps ?
[04:21] <tritium> WooD: evolution works with Exchange servers (unlike Thunderbird), and can sync with Pocket PCs
[04:22] <Clownish> tritium, okay, thank you.. will the server install install networking?
[04:22] <morphix> eh,
[04:22] <Schalken> peacekeeper: i was running citrix to connect to a metaframe server, if thats what your asking.
[04:22] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: not until you explain the problem and what you're trying to do much more clearly
[04:22] <tritium> Clownish: yes
[04:22] <lingo> WooD: Maybe. The only application WINE has worked for me with is Pinball, and that was slow and bad. I'd give a 20% chance of success.
[04:22] <marc> can anyone point me towards information on remastering the ubuntu install cd (not live)?
[04:22] <lingo> Maybe 10%.
[04:22] <tritium> Clownish: you could also do a standard install (you'll have gnome intially), install fluxbox, and later remove gnome
[04:22] <Schalken> marc: remastering?
[04:22] <lophyte> how do I import a GPG key into Evolution? anyone know?
[04:23] <morphix> Clownish, use the Alternative CD
[04:23] <lingo> WooD: Try how you want, but I think they're right. Is there any particular reason you need Outlook?
[04:23] <[msh] > evening. anyone know an easy way to go from a dapper desktop install to just stuff in the server task?
[04:24] <lingo> [msh] : besides trying to remove X manually?
[04:24] <Clownish> tritium, why the standart install? is there al list where i can see what else the standart install installs then the serve rinstall? omg my english is horrible
[04:24] <tritium> [msh] : there is also a server-specific kernel
[04:24] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: it was halfway through extracting the bzip file under the live cd terminal to the main ('linux') partition when it ran out of space and that it was skipping to the next header.
[04:24] <[msh] > tritium: *nod*
[04:24] <tritium> Clownish: there are many ways
[04:24] <MisterN> hi
[04:25] <[msh] > hm. remove xlib, then install as required.
[04:25] <[msh] > ta
[04:25] <jrattner1> QUESTION: why would i want XGL?
[04:25] <m1ckeyknox> well... after I do get this server installed... can anybody tell me how to connect, from a windows box, to the ubuntu server?
[04:25] <sorush20> hi, how can I copy the data from one partition to another?
[04:25] <snoops> lingo what irks me is, it's pretty difficult to import all your outlook emails into the equiv linux email clients.. and it's even harder to export the emails from the linux clients for use back in outlook!
[04:25] <peacekeeper> with cp
[04:25] <mc__> sorush20, with cp
[04:25] <Schalken> jrattner1: because it looks pretty!
[04:25] <marc> jrattner: try it and then you will probably understand :-)
[04:25] <jrattner1> m1ckeyknox, how do you want to connect, I would recomend SSH
[04:25] <snd-ca0106> hi i need help: dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand - opens Run Dialog ---- there's a similar thing to open Create Shortcut dialog ?
[04:25] <peacekeeper> mount both partitions somewhere.. then cp everything
[04:25] <jrattner1> Schalken, are there any screen shots of this so called 'prettiness'
[04:26] <snoops> jrattner1 screenshots don't do it justice
[04:26] <snoops> there are plenty of videos on youtube though
[04:26] <mc__> changing all dapper's ind /etc/apt/soruces list to edgy and running apt-get dist-upgrade should install a new kernel,shouldnt it?
[04:26] <jrattner1> snoops, where?
[04:26] <Clownish> tritium, oka ythank you.. ill try the was with the server installazion.
[04:26] <mc__> of course i ran apt-get update too
[04:26] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: is that enough info? There wasn't much else, but I could go back and try again if absolutely necessary
[04:26] <snoops> jrattner1 youtube.com search for 'xgl' I guess.. or 'xgl compiz'?
[04:27] <Schalken> jrattner1: well i should say it 'enables' prettyness by drawing stuff with opengl. how supported it is, and what you need to get the prettyness its supposed to offer i do not know. I am sure COmpiz has something to do with it.
[04:27] <sexsy> hola
[04:27] <Wipster> hey all, now because I'm new to linux and I always used to have to do this for windows, as I duno how stable and secure linux is......... is there a need for a firewall and antivirus program and if so what are peoples faves / work best
[04:28] <Schalken> sexsy: ayo
[04:28] <snoops> Schalken xgl and compiz are still both in alpha.. so expect crashes! Although if you disable the dock and miniwin plugins I find it very very stable
[04:28] <jrattner1> Holy poop the desktop CUBE thing is the coolest thing ive ever seen
[04:28] <tritium> Wipster: more stable and secure than Windows
[04:28] <janderso> where are the hal config files that determine what driver is loaded when a device is hotplugged?
[04:28] <NET||abuse> ahhhhh crap...
[04:28] <m1ckeyknox> jrattner1: I'd like to have some sort of visual interface... similar to VNC or remote desktop...
[04:28] <NET||abuse> i loaded up but after reboot i've either misentered the username or forgotten what the heck it is..
[04:28] <sorush20> so I have to do sudo cp /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb1, eventhough hdb1 has a total size of 10gb but hda2 has a total size of 31.gb of which 6.7 gb is used?
[04:29] <Wipster> tritium: yeh I gatherd it was but are such programs needed?
[04:29] <jrattner1> m1ckeyknox, so use VNC
[04:29] <NET||abuse> umm, how can i access my machine...??
[04:29] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: did you get that?
[04:29] <lilbit> what command to set ip address in command line?
[04:29] <lilbit> ifconfig?
[04:29] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: it's still pretty minimal info, especially since you're saying df -h reports that you still have space
[04:29] <tritium> lilbit: yes
[04:29] <Schalken> Wipster: you will only need antivirus if you are absolutely paranoid and have a giant company's life hanging on the reliability of a server or something. you really dont need antivirus for linux, although its there if you do.
[04:29] <tritium> Wipster: programs such as what?
[04:30] <tritium> antivirus if you're running an email server for Windows clients
[04:30] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: very well, I'll try to reproduce the problem. Thanks for your continuing help!
[04:30] <Wipster> ok then how about a firewall then?
[04:30] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: sorry I can't be of more help
[04:30] <Wipster> or much the smae
[04:30] <tritium> Wipster: by default, ubuntu doesn't have any ports open, so a firewall isn't needed until you start opening up ports
[04:30] <Schalken> Wipster: you can get a firewall, yes. not sure how needed it is though, as compared to the vulnerability of windows and its need for a firewall.
[04:31] <Wipster> ok thanks :) u saved my computer some resources
[04:31] <tritium> WooD: did you check out evolution?
[04:31] <absenth> !java
[04:31] <[DeCaf] > Where can I set a PATH on a per-user basis? Tried export PATH=... from .bashrc, but that doesn't seem to do it when logging in over SSH. (Running 'bash' explicitly from the shell sets it correctly though)
[04:31] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:32] <DrBanzai> So, if I add a piece of hardware, like an external modem, how do I get the system to initalize it?
[04:32] <Schalken> DrBanzai: should do it once its connected.
[04:32] <Schalken> DrBanzai:...automagically.
[04:32] <m1ckeyknox> jrattner1: it's available win -> linux?
[04:32] <DrBanzai> Schalken, Cool, thanks
[04:32] <kalosaurusrex> check dmesg to verify
[04:32] <richee> how do I enable acpi support in the kernel, I need to use gnome power manager in my laptop?
[04:32] <absenth> a reboot isn't required after installing the Java JRE from multiverse for  it to be linked to firefox is it?
[04:33] <richee> ashish@ash:~$ sudo acpi -V
[04:33] <richee> No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi").
[04:33] <richee> ashish@ash:~$
[04:33] <tritium> richee: already done ;)
[04:33] <jrattner1> m1ckeyknox, yes download http://www.tightvnc.com/
[04:33] <richee> Gnome power manager shows a plug icon
[04:33] <Frogzoo> absenth: nope - just restart ff
[04:33] <absenth> Frogzoo: danke.
[04:33] <m1ckeyknox> jrattner1: thanks! :)
[04:33] <tritium> richee: you're running an ubuntu stock kernel?
[04:33] <richee> I disabled it because of problems when installing it live apci=off nolapic noapic
[04:34] <DrBanzai> Schalken, And, where should I see it listed?  Anyplace, or do I have to guess which /dev/tty it's on?
[04:34] <richee> NO stock just the one in the live cd
[04:34] <snoops> jrattner1 it's far easit to just get it through apt ;)
[04:34] <Schalken> DrBanzai: what is the device?
[04:34] <snoops> easier*
[04:34] <tritium> [rick] : then you've answered your own question.
[04:34] <marc> again, can anyone point me towards information on remastering the ubuntu install cd (not live)?
[04:34] <DrBanzai> A Hayes Accura external modem
[04:34] <richee> how I enable this ?
[04:34] <jrattner1> snoops, get what through apt? he wants a windows VNC client : )
[04:35] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: just to verify, I'mf running these commands:
[04:35] <tritium> richee: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, and remove the acpi=off, then run "sudo update-grub"
[04:35] <richee> ok
[04:35] <tritium> richee: (should be the kopt line)
[04:35] <Schalken> DrBanzai: well, you know its working when you can get to google ;). I, howeer installed ubuntu with my modem connected so it might have configured it self then. if it doesnt do it automagically, or after restarting your computer (it should do it then, while starting networking stuff), then look for a wiki or something.
[04:36] <monomaniacpa1> "sudo mkdir /media/hda1" "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1" "cd /media/hda1" "cd /" "tar xvpfj backup.bz2 -C /"
[04:36] <DrBanzai> Schalken, Ok, thanks.  I'm not useing it for internet access...It's for my father to dial into so he can get net access over my DSL line
[04:36] <richee> tritium: which one I need kopt ?
[04:36] <azertyuuu> hey all, I want to burn an AVI-file on a CD, but how can I do that with K3B ? I tried to burn it as data, but there was no video in Windows only sound. The same for WinAmp. Please help me burning a readable  AVI-file
[04:36] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Anyone use ATI + XGL as there Default display here?
[04:37] <m1ckeyknox> recommended file system? ext2 or ext3?
[04:37] <tritium> richee: that line, yes
[04:37] <mcphail> azertyuuu: you'll need to install the video codecs on windows
[04:37] <Schalken> DrBanzai: oh wait hold on, a dialup modem? that should need some sort of configuring as far as i know.
[04:37] <Frogzoo> m1ckeyknox: ext3 - only bare in mind, there is no possibility of file recovery if you delete stuff
[04:37] <richee> tritium: WHat dO I need to remove there or uncomment
[04:37] <monomaniacpa1> tritium - that sound normal?
[04:37] <azertyuuu> mcphail where can i get it ?
[04:38] <m1ckeyknox> Frogzoo: thanks. :)
[04:38] <tritium> richee: the acpi=off option
[04:38] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: one moment
[04:38] <mcphail> azertyuuu: depends on whatever codec the .avi is using. Will probably be divX or Xvid. try google.
[04:38] <DrBanzai> Schalken, Yeah, it's a dial up modem, on the serial port, you know, old school style. :)  I'll try a reboot, and see what happens, thanks again
[04:38] <richee> ok I just did it with the current kernel entry
[04:38] <richee> let me boot and see
[04:39] <Platinum> general question: why does ubuntu disallow root login?
[04:39] <Frogzoo> !sudo
[04:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:39] <Frogzoo> !root
[04:40] <Administrator_> QUESTION: Does anyone run ATI + XGL as there default configuration?
[04:40] <kbrooks> Administrator_: ASK
[04:40] <DrBanzai> Platinum, It's disabled by default to help keep people from screwing things up...you can enable it, by giving the root account a password...
[04:40] <Platinum> thanx
[04:40] <Frogzoo> Platinum: easy answer is a 'root' account makes password attacks much easier, no need to guess the root a/c name
[04:40] <Administrator_> kbrooks, do you find it stable?
[04:40] <paramanu> i have huawei smartAX MT841 adsl usb modem and i tried to set up using eagle usb, when compiled ./configure worked but make failed with some error. can somebody help
[04:41] <snoops> Administrator_ yes I've seen people and tried to help people do just that
[04:41] <kbrooks> Administrator_: um. dont hide the question behind oother questions. ask the channel, not me
[04:41] <Absenth> what kinds of voodoo will I need to acquire to make Dapper, operate on a WPA wireless network?
[04:42] <tritium> !wireless
[04:42] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:42] <Administrator_> ok.....Anyone who has experience with ATI + XGl would you recomend it based on its stability and based on its current level of developement for me to use as a default desktop enviroment coinciding with gnome
[04:42] <tritium> Administrator_: no
[04:43] <Administrator_> tritium, why have you experience issues with it?
[04:43] <snoops> Administrator_ there are a few methods of installation, one is to set t up as a gnome session
[04:43] <snoops> so you can test it, but basically it's still alpha software
[04:43] <tritium> Administrator_: no, simply because it's not mature enough code
[04:43] <Schalken> DrBanzai: i think this is what you'll need: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:43] <Administrator_> tritium, i understand the code is young, but is it stable?
[04:44] <DrBanzai> Schalken, Oh!  Cool, thanks!
[04:44] <richee> HI folks I removed the entry in the grub
[04:44] <mcphail> Administrator_: it is not stable
[04:44] <richee> for apci nolapic and noapic
[04:44] <tritium> Administrator_: no, there are numerous issues.  That's why it's available in dapper, but not provided as an install option.  It may be in edgy, though
[04:44] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: it was a borked second drive...
[04:45] <mcphail> Administrator_: it is still not a full featured x-server
[04:45] <Administrator_> Damn I wish it was stable, that cube looks so darn cool
[04:45] <kristian> Can someone help me with my ati graphic card? The ati driver don't work--
[04:45] <paramanu> adsl usb modem setup help please
[04:45] <Administrator_> mcphail, what do you mean not full feature
[04:45] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: not the one you were installing on?
[04:45] <Administrator_> ubotu tell kristian about Binary Drivers
[04:45] <snoops> Administrator_ alpha software is unfinished, many bugs, unfinished feature set.. beta software should have feature set and all functionality sorted, but just bugs to fix heh
[04:45] <Administrator_> darn : (
[04:45] <Lynoure> paramanu: Consulted your manual already? Usually it does not require anything from your ubuntu settings
[04:45] <snoops> Administrator_ I suggest you give it a go at least.. I adore it on my machine..
[04:45] <mcphail> Administrator_: it does not communicate fully with x-clients (such as reporting screen size etc)
[04:46] <dxdemetriou> When I mount manually a partition it disappeared from Computer. It is an upgrade from Breezy to Dapper. I search for days but I haven't found anything.
[04:46] <thoreauputic> !ati > kristian
[04:46] <mcphail> Administrator_: you would struggle to run Quake4 on it, for example
[04:46] <tritium> Administrator_: you can ask more questions in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:46] <KenSentMe> I have a lot of files in different folders and subfolders. How do i move all of the files to one directory without subdirs?
[04:46] <Administrator_> alright sounds cool
[04:46] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: yup
[04:46] <richee> but gnome power manager doesn't detect between ac power and battery switch, it shows a plug icon
[04:47] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: it threw a bunch of errors as everything was starting up about bad IO and such...
[04:47] <mcphail> Administrator_: it is fine for most day to day use
[04:47] <d-s-d> hi
[04:47] <m1ckeyknox> Schalken: after removing that drive... everything is running quite smoothly
[04:47] <tritium> Administrator_: it's just eye candy
[04:47] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: is the hard drive borked or the data on it?
[04:47] <kristian> administrator, what page do you link to? Ubotu didn't send anything ;P
[04:47] <Schalken> m1ckeyknox: oh
[04:47] <CarlFK> is there a ubuntu.com page that gives the details of LTS (long term support) ?
[04:47] <snoops> tritium ha! There are some very good usability improvements associated with that eye candy
[04:47] <thoreauputic> !ati
[04:47] <paramanu> Lynoure: i have adsl modem which works with pppoe
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:48] <kalosaurusrex> how do I configure the multiple desktop so that when I go to the edge of my screen it goes to the next desktop, gnome.
[04:48] <dxdemetriou> nobody with the same problem? :(
[04:48] <mcphail> tritium: transparent windows while dragging are useful
[04:48] <tritium> snoops: such as?
[04:48] <thoreauputic> kalosaurusrex: install brightside
[04:48] <kalosaurusrex> thanks!
[04:48] <snoops> tritium when a window enteres alert mode, you can get the window to 'wobble outwards' to show it needs your urgent attention.. for instance
[04:48] <Frogzoo> kristian: probs with fglrx?
[04:48] <osfameron> hmmm, the wireless nettworkign docs don't include anything about wpa_supplicant
[04:49] <osfameron> yet the basic networking doesn't seem to work with wpa
[04:49] <osfameron> !wpa
[04:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:49] <d-s-d> ok, finally, i actually could install ubuntu on my athlon64-x2. But to be able to use the safe graphics mode, i had to get a crt-monitor that was placed in my pavement.
[04:49] <D-Man_> using gparted to resize HD into partitions failed:  "resize the filesystem" was the step which failed
[04:49] <osfameron> bah
[04:49] <tritium> snoops: yuck
[04:49] <ali> sup
[04:49] <m1ckeyknox> is ubuntu "compatible with Red Hat 7.x"?
[04:49] <Frogzoo> tritium: -> degauss
[04:49] <D-Man_> on ntfs HD
[04:49] <m1ckeyknox> specifically... can it install RPM packages?
[04:49] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: it's lsb compliant
[04:49] <ali> i have a  realy 2 annoying problemz ca some1 help?
[04:49] <kristian> frogzoo, yes!
[04:50] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: it _can_, with alien, but you're better off using .deb packages
[04:50] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: is there a particular package you want?
[04:50] <Carroarmato0> ali, yes...
[04:50] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: tightvnc...
[04:50] <phanter> hey there... how can I change the pictures in GLSlideshow screensaver?
[04:50] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: already in ubuntu as a .deb
[04:50] <mcphail> tritium: the "reveal" thingy is useful as well, particularly from multiple desktops
[04:50] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: sweet.
[04:51] <snoops> tritium ah you're missing out on something great then ;) At first I thought they were very gimmicky, then I started feeling this deep yearing to see my windows wobble happily when moved..it gives them a personality almost.. all very cute, and adding a lot to usablity in terms of visual feedback
[04:51] <thoreauputic> kalosaurusrex: when you 've installed it look in system - preferences - screen actions
[04:51] <kalosaurusrex> thoreauputic: you read me mind. :)
[04:51] <kalosaurusrex> me=my
[04:51] <thoreauputic> kalosaurusrex: heh :)
[04:51] <ali> k the 1 st,i am trying 2 strat unreal tournament 2004 and it tells me: that------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16756
[04:51] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: so, what will I need to do once ubuntu is installed (currently "installing the base system")?
[04:51] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: ubuntu has over 17k package
[04:51] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: client or server?
[04:52] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: which is awesome and a pain at the same time... it's probably in there... but is it? that's the question. ;-)
[04:52] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: server
[04:52] <m1ckeyknox> doing the LAMP install
[04:52] <gwark> hi
[04:52] <m1ckeyknox> gwark: hi
[04:52] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: enable the universe package repository, and install tightvncserver
[04:52] <Schalken> gwark: hi
[04:52] <Fabe> #ubunut-de
[04:52] <ali> carroarmato0: k the 1 st,i am trying 2 strat unreal tournament 2004 and it tells me: that------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16756
[04:52] <gwark> can i wipe clean fstab, and do a clean sudo bash diskmounter?
[04:53] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: so, I lift the dinglehopper and twist the snicklefritz?
[04:53] <tritium> !info tightvncserver
[04:53] <ubotu> tightvncserver: virtual network computing server software. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.9-8ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 617 kB, installed size 1376 kB
[04:53] <phanter> is there a way to make the GLSlideshow screensaver to show different pictures
[04:53] <tritium> m1ckeyknox: yes.  You see, this is this, and that is that...
[04:53] <Frogzoo> gwark: in english?
[04:53] <ali> carroarmato0: k the 1 st,i am trying 2 strat unreal tournament 2004 and it tells me: that------>http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16756
[04:53] <m1ckeyknox> tritium: hehe
[04:53] <tritium> !universe > m1ckeyknox
[04:54] <kristian> Frogzoo,  you know how I can make the driver work?
[04:54] <morphix> how risky is it using captive-ntfs to write to ntfs drives?
[04:54] <Frogzoo> kristian: ru trying to get fglrx working?
[04:54] <morphix> whats the successful percentage rate?
[04:54] <tritium> morphix: on the high side
[04:54] <kristian> Frogzoo, yes
[04:54] <Carroarmato0> ali, seems Unreal relys on the SDL library to work, under Ubuntu you should try to install it
[04:54] <Paladine> morphix, depends how important the ntfs partition is
[04:55] <morphix> tritium, it being good?
[04:55] <tritium> morphix: no, the risk level
[04:55] <ali> carroarmato0: how can i install it?thnx
[04:55] <morphix> ah
[04:55] <mcphail> ali: presumably you have to install the SDL libraries. Search for them in synaptic.
[04:55] <gwark> i need to remount all my windows partitions ..... and 'diskmounter' says it cant ....    Ignoring /dev/hda1 - already in /etc/fstab
[04:55] <morphix> well bugger that.
[04:55] <moparfan90> hello. i have a intergrated sound card that turns the input/output/mic into a 6 channel sound card on windows... is there a program that will do this on ubuntu?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> kristian: I found this a bit tricky - first you need the s eveas repo enabled - is that done?
[04:55] <wheazel> Anyone know a fix for the laggy keyboard response under gnome, fully updated Dapper? No fix on the forums...
[04:55] <Paladine> gwark, unmount the /tmp mount points that ubu sets up on install
[04:55] <Paladine> then reload fstab
[04:55] <Carroarmato0> ali, Use the advanced install manager or in a terminal try: sudo apt-get install libsdl
[04:56] <enursha> hi would someone be able to help me with modprobe, it not load automaticaly at boot up, even though ndiswrapper sez it's its been added
[04:56] <mcphail> wheazel: are you running beagle? It has been slowing my system badly.
[04:56] <monomaniacpa1> Alright, same problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757
[04:56] <kristian> frogzoo, im not sure... I haven't enabled any repos when I tried to install the driver.
[04:56] <wheazel> don't think so mcphail.
[04:56] <monomaniacpa1> you still there tritium?
[04:56] <Leonidas> hi
[04:56] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: yes
[04:56] <cipher> Hi, I have a Lexmark Z-22 printer, and whenever I print to it, it print's about 2 lines, then responds with "parallel port busy, will retry in 30 seconds" I am running fully upgraded Dapper, Could someone help me pelase?
[04:57] <wheazel> but it makes double characters aswell.
[04:57] <m1ckeyknox> monomaniacpa1: I think I made his fingers tired. ;-)
[04:57] <d-s-d> Do I need to install the SMP-linux-image when using a dual-core (Athlon64 X2) cpu?
[04:57] <Paladine> wow they still make parallel printers?
[04:57] <mcphail> wheazel: gdesklets? 3ddesktop?
[04:57] <moparfan90>  i have a intergrated sound card that turns the input/output/mic into a 6 channel sound card on windows... is there a program that will do this on ubuntu?
 thankyou ;]      in /mnt?
[04:57] <wheazel> nothing fancy
[04:57] <cipher> @ Paladine, it's an old one
[04:57] <Paladine> gwark, type df
[04:57] <Paladine> from a prompt
[04:57] <Frogzoo> kristian: add a custom repo 'deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas all'
[04:57] <octan> hi all
[04:57] <Paladine> (in a terminal)
[04:57] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: any ideas?
[04:58] <gwark> '/  oh ta   ;)
[04:58] <ali> carroarmato0: it say--->E: Couldn't find package libsdl
[04:58] <wheazel> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195069&highlight=keyboard+problem
[04:58] <Schalken> bye bye all!
[04:58] <mcphail> wheazel: those are the only things which have caused similar problems with me I'm afraid
[04:59] <kristian> frogzoo, this came:W: GPG error: http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl dapper-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[04:59] <Paladine> gwark, you actually raise aninteresting point, being "Why do the /tmp mount points for non native linux partitions, which are setup by Ubuntu duringinstall, NOT appear in fstab?"
[04:59] <cipher> anyone?
[04:59] <kenand27> If I file a bug for a package in Universe is it likely to get fixed? I'm asking becuase universe is unsupported according to sources.list
[04:59] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: I've not seen any messages from you in a while.  Ideas about what?  ;)
[04:59] <Seveas> !gpgerr
[04:59] <ubotu> I know nothing about gpgerr
[04:59] <Seveas> !gpg
[04:59] <ubotu> gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[04:59] <Seveas> argh
[04:59] <kevin> hello
[04:59] <wheazel> k, thx anyway mcphail
[04:59] <monomaniacpa1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757 - here's the output
[04:59] <Carroarmato0> ali, ... did you add some supplementary sources or do you just use the normal sources wich came standard for a clean ubuntu install?
[04:59] <kevin> i am kevin
[04:59] <tritium> I might not have guessed that
[04:59] <Paladine> gwark, I have seen several people get confused by this issue
[04:59] <Seveas> !gpgerr is <reply> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-n.org/soucre-o-matic
[04:59] <mcphail> wheazel: anything in dmesg?
[04:59] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[05:00] <kevin> ?
[05:00] <kevin> ?
[05:00] <kevin> ?
[05:00] <kevin> ?
[05:00] <kevin> ?
[05:00] <Frogzoo> kristian: wget http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[05:00] <Paladine> the /tmp mount points should be in fstab
[05:00] <Paladine> but they are not
[05:00] <monomaniacpa1> the first two lines are what is expected (namely it has copied successfully) and then it says it doesn't have enough space
[05:00] <kalosaurusrex> Seveas:  soucre-o-matic? or source-o-matic?
[05:00] <ali> E: Couldn't find package libsdl
[05:00] <sorush20> how do I transfer my data from my old partition to a new partition?
[05:00] <moparfan90>  i have a intergrated sound card that turns the input/output/mic into a 6 channel sound card on windows... is there a program that will do this on ubuntu?
[05:01] <Paladine> moparfan90, alsa
[05:01] <ali>  <Carroarmato0> just use the normal sources wich came standard for a clean ubuntu install
[05:01] <MarcN> sorush20: just files?  cp or rsync if you want to be fancy.
[05:01] <wheazel> nothing out of the   ordinary in dmesg aswell  :(
[05:01] <kristian> frogzoo, Ok, done
[05:01] <Carroarmato0> ali, so you didn't added other sources?
[05:02] <cipher> so, about my printer?
[05:02] <gwark> Paladine, apreciated.  was caused by reformatting a partition in windows, linux missed the new one
[05:02] <mcphail> wheazel: anything in the other logs?
[05:02] <Paladine> moparfan90, type alsamixer from a terminal
[05:02] <ali> carroramato0: like what?
[05:02] <Frogzoo> kristian: uname -r   ?
[05:02] <sorush20> MarcN: yes all the files on the partition..
[05:03] <kalosaurusrex> Seveas: http://www.ubuntu-n.org/soucre-o-matic is a bad link...
[05:03] <Carroarmato0> ali, other sources that aren't supported ufficially by ubuntu...
[05:03] <Paladine> gwark, I had the same issue on my install, I knew I had the fstab entries correct but it wouldn't mount them.  Fortunately I was expecting it cos a friend had it happen to him the day before
[05:03] <monomaniacpa1> tritium!?
[05:03] <ali> in synaptic?
[05:03] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: yes?
[05:03] <Seveas> !no gpgerr is <reply> Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Read the top section of http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[05:03] <morphix> whats linux's alternative to windows's tracert?
[05:03] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[05:03] <Seveas> kalosaurusrex, thanks
[05:03] <kalosaurusrex> np
[05:03] <kristian> frogzoo, wget http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -uname-r?
[05:03] <monomaniacpa1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757 - any ideas what the problem is? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757
[05:03] <jisatsu> what's a good program in apt for writing iso images to CDs?
[05:03] <Paladine> gwark, the easiest option would just be for the ubu installation to add the mount points in fstab instead of hiding them somewhere, then people wouldn't get a duplicate mount error
[05:03] <Frogzoo> kristian: no - what do you get for 'uname -r' ?
[05:03] <ali> carroarmato0:in synaptic?I installed automatix
[05:04] <devios> hey all - what's the ubuntu way to install the "listen" player for ubuntu
[05:04] <MarcN> jisatsu: I use cdrecord from the command line.
[05:04] <devios> ?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> jisatsu: gnomebaker or k3b
[05:04] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: ah, I see you're not using my nick.  I've likely missed previous messages?  Please use my nick, as I'm in several channels, and look for nick highlighting
[05:04] <jisatsu> MarcN is it easy?
[05:04] <kristian> frogzoo, 2.6.15-25-k7
[05:04] <jisatsu> I'll try gnomebaker first
[05:04] <gwark> ill k eep playing with it,  cheers man
[05:04] <Paladine> morphix, system>administration>network tools (or install traceroute from synaptic)
[05:04] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: OK, sorry. I wondered if that might be it!
[05:04] <MarcN> jisatsu: cdrecord -eject speed=24 -v driveropts=burnfree  dev=0,0,0 something.iso
[05:04] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757
[05:05] <wheazel> mcphail, seems gkrellm was the troublemaker :p It worked ok before the upgrade :/
[05:05] <ali> carroarmato0: that happened after installing the new patch of ut2004
[05:05] <MarcN> jisatsu: assuming your cdburner is on 0,0,0. Use cdrecord --scanbus to find out for sure.
[05:05] <morphix> Paladine, i think i'll install traceroute from syn.. i am used to command line tools
[05:05] <Carroarmato0> ali, ok... I'll presume you didn't add other sources than the standard, hold on a sec...
[05:05] <Paladine> morphix likewise
[05:05] <ali> k
[05:05] <mcphail> wheazel: well done! You should file a bug
[05:05] <Reimu> I am having trouble networking with samba, I want my Kubuntu computer to be able to view everything on the ubuntu computer so shared the root directory. On Kubuntu I can see the computer, but when I double click it says I can't connect. What did I do wrong?
[05:06] <OPENports> HI how do i start sftp server?
[05:06] <OPENports> anyone?
[05:06] <wheazel> point me in the direction and i will
[05:06] <Paladine> reimu, you running a active iptables rules (fiewall)?
[05:06] <wheazel> nvm, found the bugtracker :p
[05:06] <Paladine> let me try that again
[05:06] <moparfan90>  i have a intergrated sound card that turns the input/output/mic into a 6 channel sound card on windows... is there a program that will do this on ubuntu?
[05:06] <Reimu> Paladine: Umm no, no firewall but I have a router
[05:07] <Paladine> Reimu, are you running any active rules in iptables
[05:07] <OPENports> HI how do i start sftp server?  please help if anyone knows, thank you
[05:07] <Paladine> Reimu, you using a NAT configuration in your router?
[05:07] <mcphail> wheazel: https://launchpad.net/
[05:07] <kristian> Frogzoo, 2.6.15-25-k7..
[05:07] <OPENports> oskude: u there?
[05:07] <Karhuton> openports: by default it's running, if you have package ssh installed
[05:08] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16757 - any ideas about this output?
[05:08] <Reimu> Paladine: No idea what that is
[05:08] <Carroarmato0> ali, go to http://lunapark6.com/?cat=10
[05:08] <OPENports> does ubuntu come with ssh?
[05:08] <Paladine> Reimu, if you are using NAT (for example a 192.168.0.* network) you will likely have to setup port forwarding to get samba to work
[05:08] <OPENports> does ubuntu come with ssh?
[05:08] <m1ckeyknox> okay... installed... logged in... stuff is visible... now what?
[05:08] <mjr> OPENports, yes, though not with the server by default.
[05:08] <convirion> hello
[05:08] <mjr> OPENports, you can install that from the package openssh-server
[05:08] <OPENports> how do i stop it?
[05:08] <Carroarmato0> ali, while there follow the instructions on how to add the additional sources
[05:08] <m1ckeyknox> oh... I have command line... what do I use to get a GUI?
[05:09] <mjr> OPENports, what do you mean "stop it"?
[05:09] <OPENports> i runing ubuntu desktop version u think ssh came with it?
[05:09] <Reimu> Paladine: I should note that if the ubuntu comp is running windows and not ubuntu, I can see the files on the computer with kubuntu so I don't think that is it. It is a problem with the ubuntu set up
[05:09] <convirion> i've a problem with my ubuntu install 6.06
[05:09] <morphix> is there something wrong with linux's traceroute? everything i try to do, just times out with no response :/
[05:09] <Frogzoo> kristian: are you running 64bit?
[05:09] <mcphail> monomaniacpa1: have you not just used up all of the space on that partition?
[05:09] <mjr> OPENports, if you didn't install the ssh server yourself, it isn't automatically installed either. Only the client.
[05:09] <OPENports> i mean stop running the service?
[05:09] <OPENports> mjr: u rule
[05:09] <mjr> and you can stop the service with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop (temporarily)
[05:09] <mjr> (if it were on)
[05:09] <Paladine> Reimu, you trying to run samba from kubu to windows or kubu to ubu?
[05:09] <jisatsu> hmm.. gnomebaker failed miserably
[05:09] <OPENports> should i apt-get ssh or what?
[05:09] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: question: are those backups of breezy packages that you want to install on dapper?  (bad idea)
[05:10] <mjr> OPENports, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[05:10] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: also, is /var a separate partition?
[05:10] <kristian> Frogzoo, I installed the "normal edition" but updated to k-7 when I heard that the pc works better, and ofc I have AMD athlon 64 then..
[05:10] <ali> carroarmato0: the page isntreall showing me how 2 do it as it talk bout low frequency in setreo tour dates
[05:10] <Reimu> I want kubuntu to see the files on ubuntu, it works fine when I boot the ubuntu comp up in windows but when I boot up in ubuntu I can't see anything
[05:10] <Carroarmato0> ali,  ????
[05:11] <OPENports> mjr: thanks for being so helpfull, our cool, thanks bro!!!
[05:11] <OPENports> your cool
[05:11] <Carroarmato0> ali,  ok type in google:  lunapark6 ubuntu
[05:11] <ali> k
[05:11] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I am trying to restore breezy onto a dapper machine... I did ask you if this was possible, earlier! How would I know if var was a seperate partition?
[05:11] <Carroarmato0> ali,  it's the first one
[05:11] <mjr> OPENports, welcome
[05:11] <ali> k now it works
[05:11] <Paladine> Reimu, have you setup samba on the ubuntu machine (windows has file and printer sharing enabled by default on every system I have seen)
[05:11] <ali> will try it thnx
[05:11] <Carroarmato0> ali, no problem
[05:12] <_absolution_> editing files in fluxbox.....do I use gedit?
[05:12] <Frogzoo> kristian: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-fglrx-k7
[05:12] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: you would have intentionally set it up this way at install.  Please run "mount" or "cat /etc/fstab", and see if /var is in fact a separate partition
[05:12] <Reimu> Paladine: This might be a no, I installed samba and smbfs, but I didn't do more than that. I also edited my smb.conf to share and that is all I did
[05:13] <devios> hey all - what's the ubuntu way to install the "listen" player?
[05:13] <enursha> hi would someone be able to help me with modprobe, it not load automaticaly at boot up, even though ndiswrapper sez it's its been added
[05:13] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: and you weren't clear about restoring breezy itself on dapper.  It sounded like you wanted to restore a backup of files you made on breezy on your new dapper install.
[05:13] <Paladine> reimu, check samba is actually running, other than that the only thing I can think of is iptables rules blocking access
[05:13] <kristian> Frogzoo, okay, working at it now:)
[05:13] <lophyte> huh...
[05:14] <OPENports> mjr:i just installed it, now where would it be?
[05:14] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: you can only run one or the other.  You need to choose which you want.
[05:14] <Reimu> Paladine: yes samba is running, so lets just see what should I do if iptables rules is blocking access
[05:14] <moparfan90>  i have a intergrated sound card that turns the input/output/mic into a 6 channel sound card on windows... is there a program that will do this on ubuntu?
[05:15] <moparfan90> anyone?
[05:15] <Paladine> reimu, I just use "Firestarter" for managing my iptables rules
[05:15] <m1ckeyknox> how do I get a GUI to run?
[05:15] <Reimu> Paladine: what is that?
[05:15] <moparfan90> startx
[05:15] <moparfan90> i thnk
[05:15] <Paladine> moparfan90,  I answered you once already.  Alsa
[05:15] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I have root, swap and /proc
[05:15] <m1ckeyknox> moparfan90: path?
[05:15] <morphix> is there something wrong with linux's traceroute? every ip i try to do, just times out with no response :/
[05:15] <Paladine> moparfan90, from a terminal type alsamixer
[05:15] <moparfan90> Paladine, sorry i lost connect for a min before
[05:15] <Frogzoo> m1ckeyknox: it should start gnome by default - if you can't try fixres
[05:16] <Frogzoo> !fixres > m1ckeyknox
[05:16] <hardcampa> haha.. yeah that's traceroutes fault
[05:16] <OPENports> mjr: u there?
[05:16] <Paladine> Reimu, firestarter is just a frontend for iptables
[05:16] <Reimu> Paladine: So what is its package name?
[05:16] <Paladine> Reimu, Firestarter
[05:17] <Linoob> whats the command to download wine in 6.06? or any other ways
[05:17] <lophyte> *sigh*
[05:17] <hardcampa> something in your firewall/router is stopping the traceroute (pings)
[05:17] <FJ> someone from Sweden? i need help.
[05:17] <lophyte> Linoob, use Synaptic and search for wine
[05:17] <Reimu> Paladine: Hmm couldn't find the package firestarter
[05:17] <Paladine> Linoob, you using 64bit or 32bit ubu?
[05:17] <kristian> Frogzoo, this came up, I made a pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16759
[05:17] <Linoob> 32bit
[05:17] <mcphail> Linoob: add the apt repository from the wine website
[05:17] <moparfan90> Paladine, will xmms put out 6 channel audio?
[05:18] <Paladine> Reimu, wierd, you enabled all the repositories?
[05:18] <jacopoexchange> hey, i just installed nvidia driver on my new laptop, just the highest screen resolution is 1024x768, which is very low and not even the format of my 16:10 scree. do you think i might edit xorg.conf by hand and insert the other resolutions?
[05:18] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I have root, swap and /proc
[05:18] <Linoob> ohyeah, forgot about that
[05:18] <morphix> hardcampa, traceroute's work in winblows for me all the time
[05:18] <Linoob> thanks
[05:18] <gatekeeper> Linoob: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_a_windows_emulator_.28Wine.29
[05:18] <lophyte> there's an apt repo on the wine website?
[05:18] <Linoob> is it still whats the command to install wine?
[05:18] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: I have root, swap and /proc - is that normal?
[05:18] <raphink> mcphail: please do not give such advice. Ubuntu's goal is not to use 3rd party debs
[05:18] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: yes
[05:19] <mcphail> raphink: i don't think that is ubuntu's goal at all. Surely it is about freedom?
[05:19] <m1ckeyknox> Frogzoo: seems I don't have a /etc/X11 directory
[05:19] <Paladine> moparfan90, it will, but it is dodgy to say the least, you can force it to use surround51 device but for me it stutters all over the place, I just use the Duplicate Front setting in alsamixer to pass the sound from the front speakers to the rear (only 4 channel outputinstead of 6 though)
[05:19] <Reimu> Paladine: Oh yea! I didn't enable universe and multivere on this machine
[05:19] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: OK, any suggestions
[05:19] <raphink> Linoob: wine is packaged in Ubuntu. make you activated all official repositories and find wine in synaptic
[05:19] <moparfan90> oo
[05:19] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: stick with dapper?  :D
[05:19] <WooD> tritium: ok what i want to do is to be able to sync with my pocket pc all contacts i have and appointments .. every that comes from Microsoft Outlook 2003 but I need to migrate to evolution like you sait but is it gonna sync with my pocket pc ?
[05:19] <Paladine> raphink that is not entirely true
[05:19] <raphink> mcphail: you're free to do whatever you want for sure, but try to not give advice to people that will bork their installation
[05:20] <Paladine> wine is not available in the ubu 64 package selectors
[05:20] <raphink> Paladine: ??
[05:20] <raphink> Paladine: Linoob said he's on 32
[05:20] <recall> jemand da, der sich mit postfix auskent?
[05:20] <Paladine> it doesn't exist in the 64bit repositories
[05:20] <Frogzoo> kristian: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7
[05:20] <gatekeeper> Linoob: don't you like the command line?
[05:20] <raphink> Paladine: and 64 bits users can set a chroot
[05:20] <Linoob> i dont' mind the command line
[05:20] <mcphail> raphink: wine is tricky at the best of times. many people feel that using the "up to date" repos is more stable than the old ones
[05:20] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: :rolls eyes: Dapper didn't work - that's the problem - I want to restore breezy because it had some programs set up how I like them, and then try dist-upgrading again - how do I get back to my restore point?
[05:20] <jacopoexchange> hey, i just installed nvidia driver on my new laptop, just the highest screen resolution is 1024x768, which is very low and not even the format of my 16:10 scree. do you think i might edit xorg.conf by hand and insert the other resolutions?
[05:20] <moparfan90> Paladine, the alsa mixer didnt change anything
[05:20] <moparfan90> it still sounds the same
[05:21] <Frogzoo> m1ckeyknox: server install?
[05:21] <tritium> WooD: there are syncing packages, such as multisync for the syncing part
[05:21] <m1ckeyknox> Frogzoo: correct
[05:21] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: what didn't work for you?  We should fix that instead.
[05:21] <weakwire> hi i have a question.How can i make gnome use my aspell in every gnome application?
[05:21] <mcphail> raphink: and any problems would be easily "unborked"
[05:21] <Paladine> moparfan90, you need to have all the settings correct in alsamixer
[05:21] <gatekeeper> Linoob: you can either use the CLI or search for the packages in synaptic
[05:21] <OPENports> help-- i need to know howto configure and run openssh-server
[05:21] <moparfan90> do you have a intergrate sound card also?
[05:21] <Paladine> and make sure nothing is muted
[05:21] <lophyte> OPENports, is it installed?
[05:21] <mcphail> raphink: you will note that wine is not a "supported" package anyway
[05:22] <tritium> OPENports: just install it, and you're godo to go
[05:22] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: it's too late, now. Anyway I was asking on the forums and on here for about a week and no one could fix it. I thought it would be easier to just restore
[05:22] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: what was the problem?
[05:22] <Paladine> moparfan90, yes I have the ac97 onboard sound
[05:22] <raphink> mcphail: I know that wine is in universe ;)
[05:22] <moparfan90> thats what i have
[05:22] <mcphail> raphink: :)
[05:22] <moparfan90> and it doesnt want to work
[05:22] <Paladine> moparfan90, and I have xmms playing in 4 channels as we speak
[05:22] <OPENports> i installed it
[05:22] <raphink> mcphail: wine has been patched in ubuntu. you lose those patches if you install debian packages
[05:22] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: everytime I entered a letter or number on the kbd in gnome the program quit and hardly any apps would open or remain open
[05:22] <moparfan90> how do i make it do that?
[05:22] <weakwire> can anyone answer?
[05:22] <mcphail> raphink: there is an ubuntu package
[05:22] <bubu> hi all
[05:23] <OPENports> tritium:i installed it how doi configure it, with a txt editor?
[05:23] <mcphail> raphink: deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[05:23] <raphink> mcphail: yes, it's patched (version is 0ubuntu2)
[05:23] <Paladine> moparfan90, in alsamixer make sure that channels is set to 6 and that duplicate front is enabled
[05:23] <tritium> OPENports: it's configured and running already
[05:23] <raphink> mcphail: never mind
[05:23] <bubu> sorry
[05:23] <kristian> Frogzoo, already installed :)
[05:23] <m1ckeyknox> Frogzoo: correct, it is a server instal
[05:23] <moparfan90> ok
[05:23] <OPENports> tritium:i didn't set it up
[05:23] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: do you know how to get that tarball to restore or not
[05:23] <bubu> somebody speake romanian?
[05:23] <tritium> OPENports: did you install it?
[05:23] <OPENports> yes
[05:24] <Paladine> moparfan90, you can check if 6 channels are working using the following comand from a terminal speaker-test -c6 -Dsurround51
[05:24] <tritium> OPENports: then you don't need to set it up
[05:24] <weakwire> hi i have a question.How can i make gnome use my aspell in every gnome application?
[05:24] <m1ckeyknox> bubu: not enough to be useful unfortunately. ;-)
[05:24] <OPENports> how do i setup username to access it
[05:24] <Frogzoo> m1ckeyknox: there's your problem - there's a couple packages needed to install desktop 'ubuntu-desktop' & something else, which escapes me
[05:24] <scales> quick question: i installed dapper, and was able to get glx working.  all looks very nice, and slick.  i am using an nvidia 6200 with 265mb.  when i browse the screensavers, ubuntu sometimes freezes, or logs me out.  my guess would be that it is restarting x. does anyone know what might have caused this/ what i could do to fix it?
[05:24] <OPENports> how?
[05:24] <usuario> does anybody how to change the color depth?
[05:24] <tritium> OPENports: add users to  your system.  That's outside of ssh
[05:24] <m1ckeyknox> ah, i c
[05:24] <WooD> tritium: ok so it will be able to sync with my pocket and my other windows pc at the same time.. i will try that
[05:24] <Reimu> Paladine: Firestarter seems like a firewall maker O_O, but I just noticed that I can access them on the computers itself, eg: I can see the files I wanted my ubuntu machine to share on the ubuntu machine but it can't connect to hte kubuntu one and vice versa
[05:24] <OPENports> tritium: how do i do tht???
[05:24] <mcphail> scales: Xgl is incomplete and buggy. i don't think there is a good way to fix this issue
[05:24] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: not on top of dapper, because you're running out of space
[05:25] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: Unless you know what the problem is I'M going to do a fresh install
[05:25] <bubu> am o placa de baza via kt 880 de la asus
[05:25] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: that will be better anyway
[05:25] <moparfan90> Paladine, ok that worked fine.. so then its not the alsamixer?
[05:25] <moparfan90> maybe its xmms
[05:25] <monomaniacpa1> tritium: OK, Fresh install it is
[05:25] <tritium> monomaniacpa1: what computer are you using?
[05:25] <bubu> si nu se instaleaza mbr pe s-ata
[05:25] <byteshack> oh no, an apt-get dist-upgrade seems to have foobared my /etc/sudoers, what can I do?
[05:25] <bubu> ??
[05:25] <Frogzoo> kristian: sudo apt-get install fglrx-kernel-2.6.15-25-k7
[05:25] <tritium> bubu: English, please
[05:25] <erikh> Hi folks, how do I get wine to install on a amd64 install? I followed the instructions on the wiki but it won't let me becuase they're i386 packages.
[05:25] <orbin> usuario: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf's default depth and then restart X
[05:25] <byteshack> can't change the file because I can't set myself to root
[05:25] <bubu> ok
[05:25] <gnomefreak> byteshack: on edgy?
[05:25] <Glimmerati> I have just installed w32codecs for wmv and wma...but still it doesnt work...
[05:25] <Glimmerati> how can I?
[05:25] <byteshack> yes, on edgy
[05:25] <OPENports> tritium: how do i do that?
[05:25] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[05:25] <Paladine> moparfan90, sounds like you don't have duplicate front enabled if it is not working in xmms
[05:25] <Paladine> brb
[05:26] <usuario> orbin, there's no simple way?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> byteshack: join #ubuntu+1 with me
[05:26] <weakwire> hi i have a question.How can i make gnome use my aspell in every gnome application?
[05:26] <bubu> i have one asus via kt 880 and barton 2500+
[05:26] <orbin> Glimmerati: what player?
[05:26] <mcphail> erikh: i think you have to install into a 32 bit chroot
[05:26] <moparfan90> i dont hear the center too
[05:26] <erikh> mcphail: gah!
[05:26] <tritium> OPENports: System->administration->users and gruops
[05:26] <moparfan90> is there a better media player good for surround sound?
[05:26] <tritium> groups
[05:26] <bubu> and i have one seagate s-ata 120 gb
[05:26] <orbin> usuario: that's the one i know
[05:26] <roker> hi
[05:26] <mcphail> erikh: (unless somrthing has changed between breezy and dapper)
[05:26] <m1ckeyknox> Frogzoo: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200644 is the way it goes... it seems
[05:26] <bubu> and cannot instal mbr on this hdd
[05:26] <bubu> why?
[05:27] <kristian> Frogzoo, installed that one too
[05:27] <roker> my digital terrestial card doesnt get recognized by ubuntu.who can hlp me to fix the problem??
[05:27] <bubu> i can boot in the live cd ...
[05:27] <riddlebox> hello, is there a way to make sure that mysql5 is not apt-get'd, but only mysql4?
[05:28] <bubu> but do not recognize s-ata driver
[05:28] <tritium> riddlebox: install only the package you want
[05:28] <AlexC> Hey
[05:28] <erikh> mcphail: you know where I can find information on how best to do that?
[05:28] <riddlebox> tritium, the problem is that when the system boots and sees that it can upgrade mysql it will
[05:28] <roker> bubu I have the same problem but im not able to fix it
[05:28] <OPENports> tritium:how do i start it in console bro
[05:28] <mcphail> !chroot
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot
[05:28] <tritium> OPENports: start what?
[05:28] <sivanicon> what packages would I need to install a NFS server?
[05:28] <roker> bubu I'm not able to install neither ubuntu nor winxp on that sata II
[05:29] <OPENports> tritium:ssh
[05:29] <tritium> riddlebox: are the 4 packages from a different repo?
[05:29] <Glimmerati> I have totem, xmms, vlc, gxine..non of them are supporting wma or wmv
[05:29] <tritium> OPENports: I've told you many times...it's already running.  You don't  need to start it.
[05:29] <erikh> !chroot
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot
[05:29] <erikh> hmm.
[05:29] <neotard> roker:  maybe do a search on nfsd?
[05:29] <OPENports> tritium: how do i setup users and passwords from the console,
[05:29] <DrBanzai> !jail
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about jail
[05:30] <tritium> OPENports: adduser
[05:30] <Frogzoo> kristian: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:30] <kristian> Frogzoo, the updater found 2 glrx files, i download and install them now :) looks like you have almost fixed it:)
[05:30] <roker> neotard, to fix sata II problem or digital terrestial card problem?
[05:30] <incubii> .
[05:30] <mcphail> erikh: i'll try to find the url
[05:30] <tritium> kristian: you're using ubuntu's fglrx packages, I hope
[05:31] <lophyte> OPENports, ssh uses system accounts.. you don't need to add users to it specifically
[05:31] <Paladine> moparfan90, in alsa mixer try setting "Surround" option to "Independ" instead of "Shared"
[05:31] <erikh> mcphail: thanks, I've tried searching the wiki.
[05:31] <Glimmerati> orbin can u tell me what should i do?
[05:31] <Glimmerati> orbin can u tell me what should i do?
[05:31] <Glimmerati> I have totem, xmms, vlc, gxine..non of them are supporting wma or wmv
[05:31] <kristian> yesyes
[05:31] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[05:31] <lophyte> Glimmerati, install the w32codecs package
[05:31] <devios> what is the ubuntu way to install the listen player?
[05:31] <Glimmerati> i have installed w32codecs....
[05:31] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, did you install the proper codcs
[05:32] <scales> when i run "nvidia-settings" i get the following errors before a very limited nvidia app opens, "Error: nv-control extension not found on this display, Error: unable to determine the amount of nvidia gpus on ':0.0', Error: unable to determine number of nvidia frame locke devices on ':0.0'
[05:32] <Glimmerati> i think i have...
[05:32] <Frogzoo> kristian: now try logging out & restarting X (ctrl alt backspace twice)
[05:32] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, i have w32codecs installed and they all play for me
[05:32] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, WMV doesnt work well though
[05:32] <jrattner1> wmv blows
[05:32] <kristian> Do I need to open grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[05:32] <Paladine> moparfan90, and good luck getting all 6 channels to work properly in xmms, I cannot get it to work.  To do it you need to set the sound device in xmms to surround51 but it just makes it jump like mad for me, hense why I only use 4 channels in xmms
[05:32] <gatekeeper> devios: are you talking about something like amaroK ?
[05:32] <lysis> hey guys, i'm working on being able to do all my work from ubuntu.
[05:32] <Frogzoo> kristian: no, just paste what the command returns
[05:32] <Glimmerati> the version i have instatlled is 1:20060611-0.0
[05:32] <jrattner1> lysis, congrats : )
[05:32] <lysis> we use netscreen vpn devices, and i'm wondering how i can connect to my customers with linux?
[05:32] <kristian> fglrx :)
[05:33] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, of what the coecs?
[05:33] <lysis> in windows, it's a simple right click on the netscreen SPD manager, but i've not yet figured out how to vpn in linux.
[05:33] <jrattner1> lysis, define connect
[05:33] <Glimmerati> w32codecs
[05:33] <OPENports> lophyte:is my loginpw and username, the same as the one i have to use to access the sftp server from a remote location
[05:33] <Frogzoo> kristian: k, now try logging out & restarting X (ctrl alt backspace twice)
[05:33] <devios> gatekeeper: yes like amarok but for gnom
[05:33] <erikh> mcphail: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[05:33] <Frogzoo> devios: amarok works 4 gnome
[05:33] <erikh> can you add that to the bot?
[05:33] <kristian> oki
[05:33] <riddlebox> can I tell apt-get not to upgrade a certain package?
[05:33] <compengi> what is the plugin for audio/mpeg?
[05:33] <lysis> jrattner1: i use the netscreen remote manager to establish a VPN policy with my customers. there are probably 20 ustomers.
[05:33] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, i dont know about WMV, but wma should be working properly
[05:33] <tritium> lysis: you need a vpn client?
[05:33] <lysis> *c*
[05:33] <mcphail> erikh: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot as well. It is a PITA though
[05:33] <devios> Frogzoo: doesn't it load the kde libraries though?
[05:34] <jrattner1> lysis, one sec
[05:34] <Glimmerati> which player should support wmv and wma..?
[05:34] <ali> how 2 enable xgl?
[05:34] <bubu> so
[05:34] <lysis> and then with that, i'll rdesktop into their Servers and perform maintenance or support.
[05:34] <Frogzoo> devios: well, amarok's versions of kde libraries, yes
[05:34] <lophyte> OPENports, yes
[05:34] <compengi> Glimmerati, rhythmbox
[05:34] <NickaNicka> god
[05:34] <lysis> Citrix's ICA client is really weak for linux btw . . .  lol
[05:34] <kristian> Frogzoo, done now
[05:34] <bubu> What? can i doing?
[05:34] <NickaNicka> how can there be this much ppl
[05:34] <ali> how 2 enable SGL?
[05:34] <NickaNicka> ?
[05:34] <devios> anyone use that EasyUbuntu thing to get all their codecs and such installed?
[05:34] <Glimmerati> does , xmms, vlc, gxine..?
[05:34] <compengi> Glimmerati, yes
[05:34] <lysis> devios: i've found that using those programs aren't necessarily easy. it's better to set it up yourself.
[05:34] <Frogzoo> kristian: glxinfo |grep direct
[05:35] <gatekeeper> lysis: is this what you are looking for ? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_Configure_and_start_PPTP_tunnels_.28VPN.29
[05:35] <tritium> !tell ali about xgl
[05:35] <jrattner1> lysis, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPNClientMiniHowto
[05:35] <Glimmerati> so ..... rythmbox will sopport wma and wmv.......?And where can I get that?
[05:35] <ali_> hi i am trying to configure my ubuntu as a router but when i log in with webmin the option "Act as a router" is not there what can be the possible reason and how to enable it ?
[05:35] <kristian> direct rendering: No
[05:35] <kristian> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:35] <tritium> Glimmerati: it should already be installed
[05:35] <kristian> Well..
[05:35] <edgy> Hi, $ sudo /usr/sbin/check_perms -f
[05:35] <edgy> /var/lib/mailman/icons bad group (has: root, expected list) (fixing)
[05:35] <edgy> but actually nothing is fixed
[05:35] <bubu> Why? cant see s-ata driver on the vt8237 soutbridge?
[05:35] <ali> thnx
[05:35] <Frogzoo> kristian: damn, not quite working...
[05:36] <kristian> I got the same message as the link i posted some minutes ago
[05:36] <lysis> jrattner1: and gatekeeper i'll look at these thanks!
[05:36] <edgy> Ali_: how did you install webmin in ubuntu?
[05:36] <Glimmerati> rythm box is not in the sound and video application
[05:36] <bubu> need a driver for s-ata for the kt880 motheboard ... pls
[05:36] <jrattner1> lysis, search the wiki and or forums for more information
[05:36] <ali_> edgy it worked
[05:36] <ali_> :D
[05:36] <bubu> asus mobo
[05:36] <OPENports> lophyte:thanks, 1 more question do u know a good link to setup this openssh-server, or how do i start and stop it from the console?
[05:36] <ali_> Ubuntu goooooooooooooooood
[05:36] <gatekeeper> lysis: good luck :-)
[05:37] <edgy> Ali_: there is no webmin package I mean for ubuntu, is there?
[05:37] <lophyte> OPENports, it should be started by default
[05:37] <compengi> why serpentine audio cd creator not burning cd?
[05:37] <ali_> edgy, simply download tar.gz
[05:37] <Frogzoo> kristian: sudo dpkg --purge linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7
[05:37] <lophyte> OPENports, you can use the services tool to start/stop it if you'd like... system->administration->services
[05:37] <lysis> brb, going to reboot into linux.
[05:37] <ali_> and there is commands just type
[05:37] <NickaNicka> is there any way to use my HomePNA adapter with ubuntu live cd?
[05:37] <Carroarmato0> ali, so, can you play Unreal now?
[05:37] <ali_> and its install and it works
[05:37] <edgy> Ali_: ah
[05:37] <ali_> ;)
[05:37] <compengi> i loaded all the tracks but it's not burning them to audio why?
[05:37] <Frogzoo> kristian: (messed up - that one needs to go)
[05:37] <Glimmerati> now what I have to do to run wma and wmv?
[05:38] <edgy> Glimmerati: install w32codecs I guess
[05:38] <ali> nop :( i cant find what 2 do
[05:38] <Glimmerati> edgy ... i already have installed w32codes.... sitll it is not working
[05:38] <car1> what chanel should I use for xgl related questions?
[05:38] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, those two formats are particularly 'pretty' in linux ( microsoft designed it to be this way)
[05:38] <Glimmerati> is there any other sol?
[05:38] <kristian> Frogzoo, could not be installed.
[05:38] <Cntryboy> what's the command to format a floppy disk?
[05:38] <Glimmerati> ok
[05:38] <compengi> why serpentine audio cd creator not burning cd?, i loaded all the tracks but it's not burning them to audio why?
[05:38] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, check the forums out there might be more info
[05:38] <edgy> Glimmerati: you tried mplayer?
[05:38] <stoffer> Hi there, my system just said that there was a new ubuntu release - but I diddnt get to read how to install it. How do I install a new ubuntu package, and why does it not simply update itself?
[05:39] <Carroarmato0> ali, try googling up your problem, maybe someon else had you same problem and fixed it.
[05:39] <OPENports> lophyte: doesa check mean its running nocheck means not running?
[05:39] <edgy> Glimmerati: may be they use DRM or they are corupted?
[05:39] <ali> k thn x
[05:39] <lophyte> check means its running
[05:39] <jrattner1> stoffer, what version of ubuntu are you on
[05:39] <stoffer> how do I checK?
[05:39] <mcphail> stoffer: a new release is a whole system upgrade. It won't do this without you telling it
[05:39] <ali> cuz b4 installing the patch 4 unreal,it was working
[05:39] <jrattner1> stoffer, i would recomend a fresh install but thats just me...
[05:39] <Paladine> edgy, there is no maybe about it, they are riddled with drm lol
[05:39] <ali> carroarmato0: cuz b4 installing the patch 4 unreal,it was working
[05:40] <Glimmerati> no they are not curropted....actually i riped some songs in wma..( I shouldn'tv) I want thm to run here
[05:40] <OPENports> lophyte:how do i add users, and if i do, do they have to be logged in, for me to access this server?
[05:40] <stoffer> I just installed from a brand new install disc I got for free
[05:40] <Carroarmato0> ali, ohw... be damned da patch!
[05:40] <Cntryboy> Anyone know the command to format floppy disks?
[05:40] <Davegoodson> !xgl
[05:40] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:40] <lophyte> OPENports, no they don't have to be logged in.. using ssh is just like logging in at the computer, only its remote
[05:40] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, what about converting them
[05:40] <edgy> Glimmerati: if they are riddled with drm then I guess you can't yet.
[05:40] <Glimmerati> is mplayer = music player or it is media player...whats the command in command prompt
[05:40] <stoffer> So, where do I get the new package, and do I have to burn it down and install freshly?
[05:40] <lophyte> OPENports, you can just use your regular username and password.. if you want to add more user accounts, use the adduser command in a terminal, or system->administration->users and groups
[05:41] <edgy> Glimmerati: gmplayer
[05:41] <Glimmerati> then how i can convert them
[05:41] <Frogzoo> kristian: not install ->  sudo dpkg --purge linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-k7
[05:41] <Cntryboy> zzz
[05:41] <compengi> why serpentine audio cd creator not burning cd?, i loaded all the tracks but it's not burning them to audio why?
[05:41] <ali> carroarmato0: can i ask u another more annoying problem?
[05:41] <edgy> Glimmerati: can you explain to me what is that drm and how you made it?
[05:41] <Glimmerati> gmplayer is not in my pc....where can i get it....PLZ
[05:41] <michaelfavia> im having trouble setting up my "ATI Technologies, Inc. Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2x" to work properly... after i apt-get install the fglrx drivers i just run aticonfig --initial right?
 i have one asus via kt 880 and barton 2500+
 and i have one seagate s-ata 120 gb
 and cannot instal mbr on this hdd
[05:41] <edgy> Glimmerati: sudo apt-get install gmplayer
[05:41] <kristian> Frogzoo, wuups.. But it didn't work either..
 i can boot in the live cd ...
 but do not recognize s-ata driver
 after install ... cannot boot from the mbr
 why?
 can u help me?
[05:42] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, the repositories, use synaptic
[05:42] <Cntryboy> bubu: quit flooding
[05:42] <michaelfavia> please dont paste
[05:42] <Glimmerati> I dont know what is drm .... I just ripped it in XP it turned out wma
[05:42] <Cntryboy> Anyone know the command to format floppy disks?
[05:42] <Glimmerati> now its not working in linux
[05:42] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, you might want to look at this too: http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/
[05:42] <jrattner1> who knows
[05:42] <jerware> what does it mean when some of these PC games say "your ping is too high "  ?   is it refering to the RTT  ?
[05:42] <jerware> to me, your "ping" is too high, does not make sence.  it's an application.
[05:42] <Glimmerati> oh shti
[05:42] <ali> when i logof more than 2 times i get a black screen and my screen turns off and the logoff sound freeze like ttt,that also happen when i turn off my pc
[05:43] <Cntryboy> !format floppy
[05:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about format floppy
[05:43] <jrattner1> Jeruvy, maybe there using high as the inverse of low
[05:43] <Paladine> bubu, are your sata drives in the correct physical order on the mainboard.  I had my satas in ports 2 and 4 instead of 1 and 2 and it wouldn't boot
[05:43] <Cntryboy> !floppy
[05:43] <ubotu> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[05:43] <michaelfavia> !ati
[05:43] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:43] <Frogzoo> kristian: & you need to install 'xorg-driver-fglrx' - but I'm going to have to shoot through
[05:43] <Cntryboy> I know someone here knows how to format a floppy disk...
[05:43] <Glimmerati> gdgy....can u plz tell from which location I can get gmplayer?
[05:44] <kristian> what more than install the xorg-driver-fglrx do I have to do?
[05:44] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, you can get mplayer from the repositories
[05:44] <ali> when i logof more than 2 times i get a black screen and my screen turns off and the logoff sound freeze like ttt,that also happen when i turn off my pc
[05:44] <eth42> where do I configure ldconfig? the manual says that there is /etc/ld.conf.so but there isn't.
[05:44] <Glimmerati> what is repositoris?
[05:44] <michaelfavia> kristian, i thinkyou need to run aticonfig --initial
[05:44] <jrib> Glimmerati: multiverse
[05:44] <stoffer> I got Ubuntu 5.10 - I am downloading 6.xx now.. Is there a burn tool in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <Glimmerati> i dont get u.... i
[05:44] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, hehe you got alot to learn : ) the repos have thousands of software packages that you can just search through
[05:44] <jrib> ubotu: tell Glimmerati about repos
[05:44] <gnomefreak> stoffer: you could have just upgraded to 6.06
[05:44] <michaelfavia> but watch so that you know what to restore your xorg.conf from if it fails
[05:45] <Glimmerati> yeah .. i m just a new comer
[05:45] <Paladine> stoffer, I just use the nautilus cd burner
[05:45] <stoffer> Gnomefreak: How do I do that?
[05:45] <kristian> michaelfavia,
[05:45] <kristian> Found fglrx primary device section
[05:45] <kristian> Nothing to do, terminating.
[05:45] <gnomefreak> !upgrade
[05:45] <Glimmerati> I HAVE LOT TOOOO LEARN
[05:45] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[05:45] <Cntryboy> gnomefreak: how can I format this floppy disk.. I don't have all day can you help?
[05:45] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, once you figure it out its amazing though : )
[05:45] <jrib> Glimmerati: ubotu should have sent you some links in a private message so that you can do just that :)
[05:45] <Glimmerati> STILL I HAVE DOUBT
[05:45] <jrattner1> it will dissapear
[05:45] <Glimmerati> i m waiting
[05:46] <Paladine> you have a caps lock virus Glimmerati  ;p
[05:46] <kristian> Frogzoo, xorg-driver-fglrx allready installed. If I did it correct, sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:46] <Frogzoo> kristian: try restarting X now - me thinks you should be almost right now, depending
[05:46] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[05:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell me about repos
[05:46] <stefg> Glimmerati: the first thing to learn is : grease your Caps-key and stop shoutin' :-)
[05:46] <Glimmerati> yeah... i use it lot
[05:46] <kazukisan> Hey i upgrade my ati driver to the newest version how do i check to see what version i have running now and also 3d gfx is not working
[05:46] <kristian> Frogzoo, Okay :)
[05:46] <kazukisan> 3d accel *
[05:46] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, wiki.ubuntu.com has a TON of great info it can answer 80% of ALL questions
[05:46] <jrib> does the tell bleh about blah syntax still work?  two people have told me they haven't received messages from ubotu already
[05:46] <Glimmerati> it really hearts other
[05:46] <gnomefreak> stoffer: open your /etc/apt/sources.list file and change the breezy to dappers save than close than sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:46] <Cntryboy> !fjormat
[05:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about fjormat
[05:46] <jrattner1> !repos
[05:46] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:46] <Cntryboy> !format
[05:46] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:47] <Frogzoo> kazukisan: fglrxinfo
[05:47] <jrattner1> !repos
[05:47] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:47] <ali> when i logof more than 2 times i get a black screen and my screen turns off and the logoff sound freeze like ttt,that also happen when i turn off my pc
[05:47] <jrib> Glimmerati: see the links ubotu just said about repositories
[05:47] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, you might want to try easyubuntu , it will install a LOT of packages you will probraly want/like
[05:47] <jrattner1> !easyubuntu
[05:47] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:48] <Cntryboy> 800 ppl and not one can give me the format command for a floppy how depressing is that.
[05:48] <Glimmerati> let me.... i m gettin ubunto...step by step
[05:48] <kristian> I did glxinfo | grep direct, and there are the mesa thing
[05:48] <edgy> Cntryboy: mkfs
[05:48] <Paladine> Cntryboy, not as depressing as your inability to type man mkfs in a terminal
[05:49] <Glimmerati> it shows lots of trouble.....i have questions....how u guys knew all abt this.....its not like xp...
[05:49] <Cntryboy> so mkfs is for floppy then?
[05:49] <JohnnyX> how do you connect to limewire using gtk-gnutella?
[05:49] <FJ> someone from Sweden? i need help.
[05:49] <Glimmerati> certainly....u know...& thats why u r there
[05:49] <Paladine> it is for any disk you want to format
[05:49] <mcphail> Cntryboy: it is for anything
[05:49] <stefg> !se
[05:49] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:49] <edgy> Cntryboy: for anything including floppies or you can use fdformat for low level
[05:49] <FJ> thanks
[05:49] <roker> who does know a program to use a digital terrestial card?
[05:49] <Cntryboy> so the command would be man mkfs /floppy ?
[05:50] <Paladine> roker, dvb?
[05:50] <haakonn> on my laptop, the headphone sound is all distorted and bursted *unless* i also turn on the built-in canny speakers. if i do that, the headphone sound is great, but i also have to endure the canny built-in speakers ... any ideas?
[05:50] <Frogzoo> kristian: I have to go - pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log & someone should be able to help you
[05:50] <stefg> roker: vlc, *xine kaffeine
[05:50] <roker> Paladine, yes DBV
[05:50] <Paladine> roker, there is a howto for dvb
[05:50] <Paladine> !dvb
[05:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about dvb
[05:50] <Paladine> !info dvb
[05:50] <jrattner1> Paladine, DVD
[05:50] <ubotu> Package dvb does not exist in dapper
[05:50] <atheist-ubuntu> !info dvb
[05:50] <edgy> Cntryboy:  just mkfs /dev/fd0
[05:51] <roker> Paladine,  stefg but i dont know if ubuntu recognized my usb card
[05:51] <JohnnyX> how do i connect to the limewire network using gtk-gnutella?
[05:51] <roker> *usb device
[05:51] <stefg> ohhhh , good point... we need to add a factoid on dvb
[05:51] <stefg> roker check 'dmesg' in a terminal
[05:51] <Glimmerati> i m in repositories.....but how can I get gmplayer?
[05:51] <mcphail> roker: does "dmesg" mention it?
[05:51] <Paladine> Glimmerati, go to search and type in gmplayer
[05:51] <jrattner1> Glimmerati, after adding multiverse, search for mplayer
[05:52] <jrib> bubu: can you turn that off?
[05:52] <Paladine> ok nowI have a question :)
[05:52] <jmoncayo> hey how can i make amarok to know where to find my ipod?
[05:52] <Paladine> but it is a tricky one
[05:53] <Cntryboy> okay back
[05:53] <Cntryboy> edgy: okay thx
[05:53] <jmoncayo> can amarok play mp3 files?
[05:53] <Glimmerati> i hope i got...
[05:53] <compengi> what GTK+
[05:53] <apokryphos> jmoncayo: of course
[05:53] <compengi> what is GTK+
[05:53] <DrBanzai> Ok, I think I have it set up to accept incoming modem calls, but does anybody know how I set the number of rings it answers after?
[05:53] <Cntryboy> grr
[05:53] <Cntryboy> edgy: cd@cd-desktop:~$ mkfs /dev/fd0
[05:53] <Cntryboy> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[05:53] <Cntryboy> /dev/fd0 is mounted; will not make a filesystem here!
[05:53] <Cntryboy> oops
[05:53] <jrib> compengi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gtk
[05:54] <apokryphos> compengi: /msg ubotu gtk
[05:54] <lysis> hey guys, i'm back.  the OpenVPN client will not be suitable for what i do. i use netscreens - these are using IPSec
[05:54] <jozzeph> hello
[05:54] <compengi> !gtk
[05:54] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[05:54] <edgy> Cntryboy: do umount /dev/fd0 first
[05:54] <bubu> someone
[05:54] <Paladine> my gtk is hosed
[05:54] <lysis> does anybody know how i can connect to an existing vpn lan in linux when the vpn connects using ipsec?
[05:54] <bubu> ??
[05:54] <kazukisan> with ati How do i turn on Direct Rendering ????
[05:54] <bubu> pls
[05:54] <lysis> bubu: what's wrong?
[05:54] <Cntryboy> edgy: yah I got it thx
[05:54] <bubu> i like ubuntu .. but cannot install or i dont know how can install
[05:54] <jrib> ubotu: tell kazukisan about ati
[05:54] <edgy> Cntryboy: and always use sudo before those commands
[05:54] <Paladine> I have to use VMWARE_USE_SHIPPED_GTK=force vmware to make vmware work
[05:54] <lophyte> where can I find info about building custom packages?
[05:54] <Paladine> andI have issues in openoffice and several other apps too with gtk
[05:54] <Paladine> how the hell do i fix it?
[05:54] <lysis> bubu: use synaptic.  it's in the top under System
[05:55] <jrib> lophyte: just for yourself or the official way?
[05:55] <kazukisan> ubuntu: tell kazukisan about ati
[05:55] <lophyte> jrib, just for myself
[05:55] <bubu> i have lag
[05:55] <jozzeph> im wondering how bittorrent will work on tghe new ubuntu
[05:55] <kazukisan> jrib its not telling me
[05:55] <lysis> ubotu tell bubu about synaptic
[05:55] <lophyte> jrib, I thought it'd be useful to create a metapackage that depends on a bunch of useful things.. like codecs, mozilla plugins, etc.
[05:55] <jrib> !ati > kazukisan
[05:55] <jozzeph> bye
[05:55] <jmoncayo> when using amarok i go to media device and press connect and it says could not find device please mount it and try it again, but the ipod is already mounted with sudo mount /dev/sda /media
[05:55] <mcphail> Paladine: the vmware bug seems to have been fixed. have you apt-get update'd?
[05:55] <jrib> ubotu: tell lophyte about motu
[05:56] <bubu> my network is too slow
[05:56] <Cntryboy> edgy: I guess it done it although at the end it says this, This filesystem will be automatically checked every 24 mounts or
[05:56] <Cntryboy> 180 days, whichever comes first.  Use tune2fs -c or -i to override.
[05:56] <monomaniacpat> If I'm in a directory and I want to delete all the files and firectories in it bar one, how do I exclude it
[05:56] <buzzed> hi
[05:56] <jrib> lophyte: the tutorials taht the motu page link to are probably the most helpful then
[05:56] <lysis> bubu: your network is too slow for what?
[05:56] <monomaniacpat> in the terminal
[05:56] <Paladine> mcphail, Ionly installed vmware yesterday, has this bug been fixed in the last 12 hours?
[05:56] <lophyte> jrib, thanks
[05:56] <jmoncayo> anyone can help me???
[05:56] <lysis> jmoncayo: probably. what's wrong?
[05:56] <JohnnyX> how do i connect to the limewire network using gtk-gnutella?
[05:56] <buzzed> i have a server running on my box... for localhost....
[05:56] <jrib> lophyte: did that work? because a few people have told me they aren't getting the messages
[05:56] <mcphail> Paladine: not with vmware - with libglitz (i think is was). When did you last update dapper?
[05:56] <dagrump> chatty bunch today!
[05:56] <Paladine> mcphail, I don't think my problem is related to the bug, I think my gtk is hosed
[05:56] <JohnnyX> or any network for that matter
[05:56] <lophyte> jrib, no I didn't get the message
[05:56] <buzzed> it was there by default...
[05:56] <monomaniacpat> anyone know how to exclude a file from deletion
[05:56] <buzzed> is it apache?
[05:56] <jrib> lophyte: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[05:57] <Paladine> mcphail, I have it set to autoupdate
[05:57] <lophyte> jrib, thanks a lot :)
[05:57] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, you could download limewire, or frostwire(the open source alternative)
[05:57] <jmoncayo> lysis: i am trying to use amarok and connect my ipod to it but it say it is not mounted when i already mounted with sudo mount /dev/sda /media/
[05:57] <jmoncayo> lysis: i am using fluxbox
[05:57] <roker> stefg, Paladine  I cant see anything bout my usb device. may u take a look here? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16761 It's a pinnacle 60e usb device
[05:57] <JohnnyX> they dont work jrattner1
[05:57] <mcphail> Paladine: actually, i think my libglitz comes from a different repo... might explain why it works now?
[05:57] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, what do you mean dont work
[05:57] <Paladine> mcphail, I get a bunch of there is no colour "Black" in other aps too and my save as dialog window in openoffice has a hosed font (all squares)
[05:57] <JohnnyX> like they dont work
[05:58] <JohnnyX> they dont run
[05:58] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, what doesnt work about them describe it a little
[05:58] <JohnnyX> whats limewires network
[05:58] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, did you install them like the wiki says too
[05:58] <JohnnyX> yes
[05:58] <Paladine> roker, I am stilla novice, better asking someone else about usb problems
[05:58] <bubu> so?
[05:58] <WooD> Any know if Multisync is working with Windows Mobile 5.0 PDA ?
[05:58] <JohnnyX> can someone tell me how to connect to limewire with gtk-gnutella?
[05:58] <matthew_W> What would the command be to make a group of files readable by all users?
[05:58] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, then you did something wrong cause they both work
[05:58] <nathanael> IS there a way to set up an alias for "sudo apt-get install" and "sudo apt-cache search" so I can just type a single command for each?
[05:58] <jrattner1> WooD, yes it does
[05:59] <WooD> jrattner1: wow thanks
[05:59] <mcphail> Paladine: are you running Xgl/compiz or standard setup?
[05:59] <jrattner1> WooD, i use it with my Samsung I730 smartphone
[05:59] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[05:59] <gavinchappell> nathanael: the alias command will do it. You can put something like alias blah="sudo apt-get-install" into your .bashrc
[05:59] <Paladine> mcphail, standard setup with glx
[05:59] <WooD> jrattner1: ok
[05:59] <Cntryboy> edgy: im not sure what im doing wrong, but now floppy drive has a LOST & FOUND folder on floppy disk
[06:00] <stefg> roker: wait a second, checking...
[06:00] <Paladine> mcphail, let me paste you a quick example from the terminal I forced vmware to start from
[06:00] <roker> stefg, ok tnx
[06:00] <OPENports> emergency help  how do i shut down port 139?????
[06:00] <JohnnyX> can someone tell me how to connect to limewire with gtk-gnutella?
[06:00] <JohnnyX> or what limewires network is
[06:00] <matthew_W> I did "sudo chmod 666 -R *.*" in a folder, and now I can't read any of the files.... or anything, help!
[06:00] <jmoncayo> anyone have used amarok to sync with ipod before?
[06:00] <Paladine> mcphail, (vmware:24699): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: file ../../gtk+-2.4.14/gdk-pixbuf/gdk-pixbuf.c: line 662 (gdk_pixbuf_set_option): assertion `key != NULL' failed
[06:00] <OPENports> emergency help  how do i shut down port 139?????
[06:00] <jrattner1> JohnnyX, its quite easy to find limewires network use google...
[06:00] <PuG> hi
[06:01] <WooD> jrattner1: do you sync also with a windows or only with ubuntU ?
[06:01] <gavinchappell> OPENports: stop samba from running?
[06:01] <gavinchappell> sudo /etc/init.d/samba stop
[06:01] <nathanael> Ah - my syntax was wrong - shanks gavinchappell
[06:01] <kristian> How can i make a pastebin if the text is 2000 lines long?:S
[06:02] <atheist-ubuntu> how do I get rid of shitty background sound?
[06:02] <jrattner1> WooD, only ubuntu
[06:02] <OPENports> thanks
[06:02] <nathanael> Last question - is there a way to script it so I can type "irssi" and have it log me into irc.freenode.net, set my nick, and then identify with the server? I can do the first 2, but the last is stumping me...
[06:02] <JohnnyX>  what is  limewires network
[06:02] <WooD> jrattner1: thanks for your reply
[06:02] <mcphail> Paladine: your error message was scarier than mine! i think it is going to be a problem with vmware for a while.
[06:02] <jrattner1> WooD, welcome
[06:03] <[Ex0r] > er
[06:03] <OPENports> emergency help  how do i shut down port 445?????
[06:03] <stefg> roker: i just read in a german forum that people succesfully use the card ion Linux... so it's just a question wether the firmware is there, and if it's correctly set up
[06:03] <gavinchappell> OPENports: it's probably samba again
[06:03] <kristian> Anyone?:P
[06:03] <atheist-ubuntu> is it possible that ubuntu (ppc-version) does not support an official apple soundcard?
[06:03] <Paladine> mcphail, yeah but it is not just vmware I am getting gtk errors in, check out my openoffice save as dialog > http://www.paladine.org.uk/funky-saveas-dialog.jpg
[06:03] <soundray> matthew_W: do a 'sudo chmod a+X *.*' in the same directory and try again
[06:03] <gavinchappell> port 139 = old style MS Networking, 445 = new style CIFS MS Networking
[06:03] <thoreauputic> bubu: turn that off please
[06:03] <moparfan90> hello again. i lost my internetl connation
[06:03] <OPENports> is it
[06:03] <moparfan90> i still cant get xmms to play in surround sound mode
[06:04] <stefg> roker: can you paste your lspci - output to the pastebin (when the pen is plugged in)
[06:04] <[Ex0r] > hmm somethings wrong with my apache install
[06:04] <matthew_W> Didn't work.
[06:04] <OPENports> samba sucks
[06:04] <mcphail> Paladine: one moment - slow connection
[06:04] <OPENports> how should i share, sftp
[06:04] <jrib> ubotu: tell kazukisan about ati
[06:04] <kazukisan> Hey i updated to the newset ati drivers and now direct rendering is off and also is fglrxinfo suppose to output stuff about mesa ?
[06:04] <Paladine> mcphail, np mate
[06:05] <_absolution_> can I get podcasts in Sharpmusique?
[06:05] <soundray> matthew_W: do you get output from 'sudo ls -l' in that directory?
[06:05] <moparfan90> Paladine, in the settings of xmms i put it to alsa and tried alot of different thing.. but i cant get it to work
[06:05] <JohnnyX>  what is  limewires network
[06:05] <skar> hi i've got a  ubuntu box with mplayer, realplayer 10 and rm codecs, still a rm file stutters, while it plays fine on windows on the same machine, what gives!?!?
[06:05] <damiano> hello, gvim on Dapper fails to open files which have an accent in it ()
[06:05] <WooD> jrattner1: do you still have the package to install that Multisync ? if yes are you able to give me which package you take ?
[06:05] <matthew_W> soundray, yea,   -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 473963 Jun 28 13:50 Image000.jpg
[06:05] <matthew_W>   is one of the many.
[06:05] <kristian> Emh, what's the most important in the /var/log/xorg file? Because it's on 2000 lines, i can't make a pastebin!
[06:05] <roker> stefg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16762
[06:05] <skar> its a mit lecture and not playing well, while all other stuff including porn plays x-(
[06:05] <jrattner1> WooD, the wiki tells you exactly how to setup ubuntu for a pocket pc sync
[06:05] <Paladine> moparfan90, I told you already, you will be very lucky to get surround51 working in xmms, the best I can manage is 4 channel surround
[06:05] <jrattner1> WooD, let me get you the address
[06:05] <soundray> matthew_W: what's the name of the directory that contains the files?
[06:06] <[Ex0r] > Anyone know why apache wont work if I open a directory that CONTAINS php, but if I point directly to it it does ?
[06:06] <OPENports> etc/init.d/samba: command not found
[06:06] <PuG> Hi, just a quick question on Ubuntus default File browser - can it be set to allow me to be able to edit root files without having to use the terminal and sudo command??
[06:06] <PuG> :)
[06:06] <WooD> jrattner1: thanks
[06:06] <moparfan90> i cant get anything to work.. 4 channel or 6
[06:06] <matthew_W> soundray "Graduation"
[06:06] <mcphail> Paladine: i'm getting a gateway timeout
[06:06] <soundray> PuG: yes, you can start it with 'gksudo nautilus'
[06:06] <thoreauputic> OPENports: leading /
[06:06] <HiP_P> is there a hex editor for ubuntu?
[06:06] <OPENports> duh thanks bro
[06:06] <PuG> Thanks!
[06:07] <stefg> roker: the problem might be, that this seems to be only USB 1.1 on your system. Did I get that right?
[06:07] <skar> anyone know how to get better performance with rm files, no stuttering or skippings?
[06:07] <soundray> matthew_W: what does 'sudo ls -ld Graduation' give you?
[06:07] <Lynoure> HiP_P: Yes, but I cannot remember which one(s)
[06:07] <jldugger_> HiP_P, apt-cache search hex editor
[06:07] <jldugger_> HiP_P, there's several
[06:07] <HiP_P> oh
[06:07] <matthew_W> drw-r--r--  3 root root 16384 Jun 29 11:22 Graduation
[06:07] <Paladine> mcphail, oh weird sec
[06:07] <Lynoure> HiP_P: do   apt-cache search hex editor   and you'll prolly find them
[06:07] <HiP_P> didnt see it ahhh did it diffent way
[06:07] <HiP_P> cheers
[06:07] <roker> stefg, yes It is usb 1.1
[06:07] <jrattner1> WooD, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[06:08] <Lynoure> HiP_P: If you don't find one, let me know, and I'll see how I can help you further
[06:08] <lysis> is anybody here familiar with vpn tunneling on linux?
[06:08] <WooD> jrattner1: thanks
[06:08] <HiP_P> thank you
[06:08] <Paladine> mcphail, my apache seems to not be working hehehe sec
[06:08] <jrattner1> WooD, it should get you going nicely
[06:08] <soundray> matthew_W: okay, do a 'sudo chmod a+x Graduation'. The x permission is needed so you're able to cd to the directory as a normal user.
[06:08] <bit_doidao> Anyone knows how to use palm with ubuntu? I cant figure it out!
[06:08] <lysis> jrattner1: the link you provided is unfortunately not what i need. i tunnel through with ipsec and OpenVPN doesn't support that.
[06:08] <macsim> hello, anybody here with a HP Pavilion dv5000 ?
[06:08] <HiP_P> nop still coming up with nothing
[06:08] <WooD> jrattner1: did you install SynCE ?
[06:08] <lysis> macsim: i have a dv8000
[06:09] <jrattner1> WooD, yep do actually what it says, and it will work (follow it step by step)
[06:09] <macsim> lysis: what's your wireless card please ?
[06:09] <stefg> roker: I doubt you'll manage to get that working on 1.1. I think, this is a 2.0 device, and even if you manage to get it going on 1.1 it'll be no fun. Fork 10 Bucks /Euros for a 2.0 controller and report back :-)
[06:09] <jrattner1> lysis, what was your issue again i forget
[06:09] <moparfan90> is there a media player that will play mp3's and is good for surround sound speakers?
[06:09] <lysis> macsim: i dunno - it worked out of the box!
[06:09] <WooD> jrattner1: ok ..  I'll try that .. :) thanks again
[06:09] <lysis> jrattner1: vpn.
[06:09] <HiP_P> only stuff for perl
[06:09] <matthew_W> soundray,  hey thanks, they kind of work now, although they don't display previews, and they crash eog X_X
[06:10] <jrattner1> lysis, let me see if i can dig up anything else for you ...other than that im not really experience with VPN'
[06:10] <macsim> lysis: it was dapper out of the box ?
[06:10] <lysis> jrattner1: i do tech support for clients - have always done it with windows and am interested in working with just linux.  they all have netscreen vpn hardware
[06:10] <lysis> macsim: no. dapper worked out of the box.
[06:10] <macsim> lysis: ah ok ;)
[06:10] <Paladine> mcphail, it is probably because vmware is using IP aliasing on the NIC, I will have to look into that, but basically instead of a real font in the saveas dialog (so I can actually use it) I have nothing but squares
[06:10] <roker> stefg, If I had a usb 2.0 it works without problems on ubuntu?may u paste me the link to download the firmware?
[06:10] <lysis> macsim: eth1 is wireless eth0 is wire.
[06:10] <_absolution_> can I download .rpm files in Ubuntu?
[06:10] <macsim> lysis: with lspci what's you wireless card model ?
[06:10] <lysis> _absolution_: yes, but it's recommended to install with apt
[06:10] <jrattner1> lysis, this is the extent of my VPN knowledge: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=VPN&titlesearch=Titles
[06:11] <lysis> macsim: let me look for you man.
[06:11] <macsim> lysis: thx
[06:11] <soundray> matthew_W: to get the previews, you have to also make the directory writable ('sudo chmod a+w Graduation') so nautilus can store the thumbnails.
[06:11] <PuG> Ive got a second drive with Windows installed, need some files of it - how can I access it from Ubuntu (have done this before many months ago but can't find the tutorial I last used) ?
[06:11] <Paladine> mcphail, unfortunately, there is no HOWTO for fixing a broken gtk
[06:11] <stefg> roker: http://linuxtv.org/download ... and as i said, there's reports on the net from people having it running in Linux
[06:11] <thoreauputic> !info openvpn
[06:11] <matthew_W> soundray - that's really odd, I have other directories here that are not writable, and they're there - are you sure of this?
[06:11] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.0.6-1 (dapper), package size 310 kB, installed size 940 kB
[06:11] <OPENports> help  sudo /etc/init.d/apache start   what am i doing wrong??????
[06:11] <lysis> macsim: unknown wlan interface
[06:11] <lysis> but it still works. lol
[06:12] <FeestBijtje> !webcam
[06:12] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:12] <thoreauputic> OPENports: try apache2
[06:12] <mcphail> Paladine: what error messages do you get if you start openoffice from the command line and select the SaveAs dialogue?
[06:12] <stefg> roker: but the kernel isn't finding the device now, and I think this is USB 1.1 related
[06:12] <macsim> lysis: okidoki thanks anyway
[06:12] <anderbubble> My ubuntu install doesn't have a /sbin/hotplug or an /etc/hotplug, so what matches up a driver with a hotplugged device?
[06:12] <matthew_W> soundray, well, they are writable, just only by root
[06:12] <Paladine> sec mcphail I will do it now
[06:12] <roker> stefg, I already searched something on the web to find people that used my usb device but I found only german and spanish result (I dont speak them)
[06:12] <jldugger_> anderbubble, udev and hal, sometimes
[06:12] <fbinho> hi ppl, does anyone knows how to verify a .tar file with its md5 key like: b73fb9e365d2edcd031d65b16e965a18 ?
[06:13] <jerware> i have a laptop where i need to install a pcmcia ethernet, non wireless card.  would i need drivers for this card?
[06:13] <stefg> roker: i'm german and the german forums say: no problem
[06:13] <thoreauputic> fbinho: md5sum <filename>
[06:13] <Paladine> mcphail, I get these errors just from launching openoffice - (soffice.bin:31133): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[06:13] <OPENports> thoreauputic:good work bro!!!
[06:13] <anderbubble> jldugger_: ok, then; I plug in a pcmcia card. What probes the driver and binds it to the device?
[06:13] <Lynoure> jerware: Nothing special, really, unless you get some really exotic card.
[06:13] <fbinho> but where a put the key?
[06:13] <jerware> cool thanx fellaz.
[06:13] <ToeBee> fbinho, man md5sum
[06:13] <stefg> check the tinuxtv HCL if you want to be sure... but get USB 2.0 first, you'll need it anyway
[06:13] <jrattner1> anderbubble, hotplug
[06:13] <Paladine> mcphail, andI get a whole bunch of these when I go to save as - (soffice.bin:31133): Pango-CRITICAL **: _pango_cairo_font_map_get_renderer: assertion `PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT_MAP (fontmap)' failed
[06:13] <roker> stefg, ok so I have to downdoad that firmware and ...?
[06:13] <thoreauputic> OPENports: you might want to set programmable tab complete in your ~/.bashrc
[06:14] <mcphail> Paladine: hmm - is it a locales problem?
[06:14] <stefg> roker... buy a usb 2.0 controller
[06:14] <fbinho> ok. thanks!
[06:14] <jerware> i read in ubuntu hacks, in Barnes and Noble,  that ubuntu is quite friendly with PCMCIA
[06:14] <soundray> matthew_W: either you've created the thumbnails as root, or you created the thumbnails while the directory was user-writable.
[06:14] <anderbubble> jrattner1: but there is no hotplug binary: do you mean the hotplug subsystem in the kernel?
[06:14] <Paladine> mcphail, I think it might be a locales problem, but so ar I have been unable to fix it or get help fixing it
[06:14] <roker> stefg, I have it on another pc
[06:14] <jldugger_> anderbubble, /etc/udev/rules.d/85-pcmcia.rules
[06:14] <OPENports> thoreauputic:good work bro!!!what>?S that
[06:14] <matthew_W> soundray,  Thanks :)
[06:14] <OPENports> whats that
[06:14] <roker> stefg, but I dont know what to download from your link
[06:15] <jrattner1> anderbubble, yes, but I could be wrong to be honest I would listen to jldugger_
[06:15] <thoreauputic> OPENports: gedit ~/.bashrc and read the file to see
[06:15] <mcphail> Paladine: this sort of thing usually stumps me, but does a simple "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales" work?
[06:15] <Cntryboy> grrrrr
[06:15] <jldugger_> not that i own a laptop, but i did just have to hack up udev slightly to do static usb device allocation for some stuff i use
[06:15] <Cntryboy> stupid floppy,   sudo mkfs /dev/fd0 does nothing
[06:15] <thoreauputic> OPENports: just uncomment the bits about tab completion, then save and run " source ~/.bashrc"
[06:15] <anderbubble> jldugger_: actually, that's exactly where I've been looking, so at least I was on the right track... but what determines what driver gets loaded?
[06:15] <OPENports> do i sudo hat sir?
[06:16] <Cntryboy> it adds a lost+found folder and it won't let me open it anyways
[06:16] <thoreauputic> OPENports: no, it's in your home dir
[06:16] <OPENports> whats itdo?
[06:16] <stefg> roker, your dmesg says nothing about the usb-pen... so i think without a 2.0 controller you'll have no luck. At least a 'firmware failed to load' message or the like would tell us, the kernel is seeing the device.
[06:16] <HiP_P> hmmm nothing in the packages search on the net
[06:16] <jldugger_> anderbubble, no idea. the kernel, i guess.
[06:16] <thoreauputic> OPENports: and please use my nick if you want me to see your questions :)
[06:16] <Paladine> mcphail, nope I just tried all that the reconfigure went through fine, but it made no difference
[06:16] <soundray> Cntryboy: the floppy is not to blame.
[06:16] <OPENports> thoreauputic:wait to i do this from console
[06:16] <Cntryboy> soundray: if I could get some credited advice I wouldn't be either
[06:16] <anderbubble> jldugger_: crap; I have an orinoco card, but it's loading the hostap_cs driver in stead of the orinoco_cs driver, and it's not working correctly
[06:17] <jldugger_> does modprobe work?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> OPENports: I suggest you have a look at http://tuxfiles.org
[06:17] <mcphail> Paladine: I'm sure there is a (relatively) easy solution to this, but would suggest asking the channel again as it is beyond me!
[06:17] <anderbubble> jldugger_: so I thought that the correct driver might fix the problems
[06:17] <soundray> Cntryboy: are you sure you want an ext2 filesystem on your floppy?
[06:17] <thoreauputic> OPENports: I think a bit of reading about the terminal would help you :)
[06:17] <roker> stefg, I wanted to use that usb-pen on a pc with usb 2.0 but u told me I nedeed a firmware.but the problem is that I dont know what to download from your link
[06:17] <Cntryboy> soundray: thats what edgy told me to do.. all I want to do is format my stupid floppy and add files to it thats all
[06:17] <anderbubble> jldugger_: the orinoco_cs driver is loaded, but not bound to that device
[06:17] <Paladine> mcphail I been trying to get help with this for about a week, not even any response in the forums
[06:17] <jldugger_> anderbubble, well try removing the the wrong driver first
[06:18] <roker> stefg, there are too many things that can be downloaded
[06:18] <stefg> roker, either you search, or I do.. :-)
[06:18] <stefg> whose job is it in the first place?
[06:18] <Paladine> mcphail, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204415 <- my forum thread on the issue
[06:18] <anderbubble> jldugger_: how do you mean, remove? I unplugged the device, modprobe -remove'd the driver, but then plugging the device back in probed the hostap driver back into my kernel and bound it to the device
[06:18] <soundray> Cntryboy: have a bit of patience :)  If you install mtools, floppy handling becomes more similar to DOS - would that be an option for you?
[06:18] <rendo> How do I make it so that other users have limited commands and can only perform commands within their folders?
[06:18] <mcphail> Paladine: well, i think we're a bit further forward wrt locales. But I haven't ever had to fiddle with such things in the past. Give me a mo to do some reading...
[06:19] <rendo> Example if they moved out to the home folder, they couldn't use ls and mv and things like that.
[06:19] <jldugger_> anderbubble, try modprobe -remove the driver then just modprobe the orinico one, without removing the card
[06:19] <Cntryboy> soundray: right now I just want to get it formatted and add files because what im about to do could screw me up and I want to know I got my files I needed off here first
[06:19] <OPENports> thoreauputic:how doi make the xt lime green in console like the matrix??
[06:19] <anderbubble> jldugger_: it complains, saying that the driver is in use
[06:19] <jldugger_> heh
[06:19] <thoreauputic> OPENports: umm - ??
[06:19] <neighborlee> im getting error code 20, on trying to 'rescue' my dapper install..I had to reinstall XP and this is what im left with ;(...
[06:19] <Paladine> mcphail, thanks man
[06:19] <jldugger_> i surrender. but you do remind me to never buy a laptop ;)
[06:20] <neenaoffline> I'm using WDM right now how do I switch to GDM ?
[06:20] <soundray> Cntryboy: will your files fit on a floppy, though?
[06:20] <neenaoffline> on xubuntu
[06:20] <Bilange> jldugger_, whats wrong with laptops? I was planning to buy one soon
[06:20] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes txt files
[06:20] <jldugger_> Bilange, ask anderbubble ;)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: log out and on the log in screen choose sessions than xfce
[06:20] <OPENports> thoreauputic:how doi make the xt lime green in console like the matrix??
[06:20] <stefg> roker, maybe the card doesn't even need a firmware... it's ananlog as i recognize just now.. http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Pinnacle_PCTV_Stereo
[06:21] <anderbubble> Bilange: no joke
[06:21] <nosilver4u> is there a way to monitor both cores of a dual core processor?
[06:21] <neenaoffline> gnomefreak: you got me wrong
[06:21] <neighborlee> not only that but when I drop to shell in 'rescue' mode from the install CD, Ican't see what im typing
[06:21] <neenaoffline> I only want to use GDM not GNOME
[06:21] <nosilver4u> for usage and such
[06:21] <thoreauputic> neenaoffline: edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[06:21] <Paladine> mcphail, I believe both issues I haveraised in the forum post are related
[06:21] <fbinho>  thoreauputic: md5sum -b gerates a key?  md5 manual is not clear..
[06:21] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: xfce uses gdm by default
[06:21] <soundray> Cntryboy: so you've created the filesystem already on /dev/fd0, correct?
[06:21] <soundray> Cntryboy: have you mounted it with mount?
[06:21] <Bilange> anderbubble, whats up? :/
[06:22] <anderbubble> Bilange: pcmcia crappiness and driver woes
[06:22] <neenaoffline> thoreauputic: I know that too , but what should I edit it to ?
[06:22] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes, it's mounted but has a lost and found folder and it won't let me add no files to the floppy
[06:22] <thoreauputic> fbinho: md5sum <filename> gives you a string to compare to the one you got for the file
[06:22] <anderbubble> Bilange: fear the hotplug
[06:22] <gnomefreak> neenaoffline: sudo update-alternatives --all   will let you choose default display manager among other things
[06:22] <Bilange> then ill buy an all-integrated one :)
[06:22] <thoreauputic> neenaoffline:  //usr/bin/gdm I think
[06:22] <Zambezi> You know Ctrl+Alt+F1-F7? DON'T USE IT if you don't know what it is. When I'm remoting a computer with SSH, is't possbile to switch between terminals in that session? So it's possible to run application started on the computer and then remote them from one session (one Window)
[06:22] <mcphail> Paladine: what is the output from typing "locale"? are they all utf-8?
[06:23] <thoreauputic> neenaoffline: ah - /usr/sbin/gdm
[06:23] <Paladine> yup
[06:23] <Paladine> I pasted the output from locale in the forum post
[06:23] <neenaoffline> thoreauputic: I'll check
[06:23] <OPENports> help: how do i change the mac address?
[06:23] <jldugger_> Zambezi, not without using screen
[06:23] <OPENports> for ethernet
[06:23] <soundray> Cntryboy: best is probably to create a user writable folder in there like so: 'sudo mkdir /floppy/texts ; sudo chmod 777 /floppy/texts'; then you can copy to that folder (assuming that the floppy is mounted on /floppy)
[06:23] <DShepherd> What would make a process unkillable?
[06:23] <OPENports> anyone know of a program topoof mac address?
[06:23] <Paladine> mcphail, I also posted the output from locale -a
[06:23] <Zambezi> jldugger_ Screen is a packages or?
[06:24] <jldugger_> screen is a way of life. and a program.
[06:24] <fbinho> thoreauputic: thanks! they should have this line at man! :) now it's clear.
[06:24] <rendo> How do I make it so that other users have limited commands and can only perform commands within their folders?
[06:24] <jldugger_> i think it's part of ubuntu-base
[06:24] <Cntryboy> soundray: well I clicked on the floppy icon to mount it, ive tried doing commands like  sudo mount /dev/fd0 and sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy, but im not sure the command to mount it, so I used icon
[06:24] <Paladine> mcphail, here is the forum post in case you missed it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204415 <- lots of info in there
[06:24] <OPENports> anyone know of a program to spoof mac address?
[06:24] <atlantian> hey guys
[06:25] <atlantian> openports
[06:25] <FeestBijtje> hey atlantian
[06:25] <DShepherd> Bah I'll just reboot
[06:25] <FeestBijtje> atlantian, can i help you? :)
[06:25] <atlantian> you mean a port to linux obv?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> OPENports: this isn't #h4X0rz
[06:25] <atlantian> well i was testing out irc
[06:25] <atlantian> so came here first
[06:25] <OPENports> im rying o secure this desktop bro
[06:25] <atlantian> just installed router on my server
[06:25] <FeestBijtje> atheist-ubuntu, okay welcome
[06:25] <Zambezi> jldugger_, I where in the SSH-session and puschde Ctrl+Alt+F1 and I got a new terminal. I thought everything fucked up, but I were lucky. I played music so I knew it worked and I tried and tried and finaly I got back.
[06:25] <atlantian> was surrised it worked instantly
[06:25] <atlantian> with no config at all
[06:26] <FeestBijtje> atlantian, go to http://feestbijtje.homedns.org
[06:26] <soundray> Cntryboy: so you have an icon for the floppy now. That means it is mounted to a mountpoint under /media. Check which one by entering just 'mount' by itself.
[06:26] <thoreauputic> Zambezi: watch the language please
[06:26] <atlantian> lol this isnt h'x0rs
[06:26] <atlantian> heh
[06:26] <anderbubble> woah, sweet: I got it to bind to orinoco
[06:26] <jrattner1> Orinoco!
[06:27] <lophyte> oi.. package building seems complicated
[06:27] <__mikem> Anyone here know what IBM stands for...I BUILT MICROSOFT
[06:27] <anderbubble> and I only have one driver!!!
[06:27] <Cntryboy> soundray: well its not mounted right now, to mount a floppy drive what would the command be?
[06:27] <anderbubble> now, it still loaded hostap...
[06:27] <Jemt> __mikem: Internatilnal Business Machines
[06:27] <anderbubble> maybe there's something wrong in the dependency file
[06:27] <Paladine> __mikem, what is the name of the computer in 2001 space oddysey?
[06:27] <__mikem> Jemt I know, it was a joke
[06:27] <bit_doidao> PLEASE! I cant sync my palm with my ubuntu. How to do it?
[06:27] <rendo> quit
[06:27] <rendo> lol
[06:27] <Jemt> __mikem: Oh, hehe :)
[06:27] <rendo> God damnit. :/
[06:27] <__mikem> Paladine, no idea?
[06:27] <Paladine> __mikem,  HAL
[06:27] <dr_willis> bit_doidao,  check the wiki/forums perhaps for a howto
[06:27] <zecarlos> join #ubuntu
[06:28] <soundray> Cntryboy: 'sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt'
[06:28] <atlantian> hello there is one issue i have
[06:28] <__mikem> Never heard of it
[06:28] <atlantian> i want to instal real vnc server
[06:28] <zecarlos> Opa, boa tarde
[06:28] <atlantian> so someone from the internet can connect to this machine
[06:28] <atlantian> now i heard vino does this
[06:28] <Paladine> __mikem,  now take each letter from the word HAL and replaceit with the letter directly after it in the alphabet
[06:28] <atlantian> and it is installed as its viewable in the synopsis viewer
[06:28] <zecarlos> Tem algum brasileiro por a?
[06:28] <atlantian> but how do i open it
[06:28] <gnomefreak> !br
[06:28] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:28] <__mikem> Paladine, oh, thats interesting
[06:29] <zecarlos> join #ubuntu-br
[06:29] <Cntryboy> soundray: got it, now to go to that floppy dir in command prompt would it be cd /dev/fd0?
[06:29] <Paladine> __mikem,  isn't it just :)
[06:29] <Cntryboy> soundray: or /dev/fd0/floppy or /media/floppy
[06:29] <gnomefreak> zecarlos: its /join #ubuntu-br
[06:29] <mcphail> Paladine: you're on amd64?
[06:29] <Cntryboy> lol linux is nuts
[06:29] <soundray> Cntryboy: no, it would be cd /mnt
[06:29] <mc__> how to diasable activation of an wireless card during startup on the dapper live cd?
[06:29] <Paladine> mcphail, yeah
[06:29] <zecarlos> Blz, obrigado
[06:29] <zecarlos> agora deu certo
[06:29] <__mikem> Paladine, I am on an amd64 as well
[06:29] <soundray> Cntryboy: depending on what you used as the mountpoint (last option to mount command)
[06:29] <atlantian> ne one know how to use and work with VINOC (Real VNC server)?
[06:29] <atlantian> VINO*
[06:30] <Paladine> __mikem, mcphail is trying to help me fix my broken locale
[06:30] <dr_willis> atlantian,  its worth reading the vnc docs. :P try 'vncserver' in the shell  is one of many ways to use it.
[06:30] <neighborlee> Is there a way to fix 'error code 20' from an attempt of grub-install /dev/hda ????
[06:30] <soundray> atlantian: configure with vino-preferences, after that it should be self-explanatory
[06:30] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay, so how can I remove this lost+found dir thats there now?
[06:30] <dr_willis> atlantian,  vino is a vnc variant also.
[06:30] <soundray> Cntryboy: no, leave that there, it's needed by fsck.
[06:30] <__mikem> WHy doesn't anyone use tight vnc
[06:30] <dr_willis> __mikem,  i use it all the time.
[06:30] <mcphail> Paladine: I'm not sure that openoffice works particularly well in any circumstances on amd64...
[06:31] <atlantian> thanks
[06:31] <atlantian> ^^
[06:31] <atlantian> :)
[06:31] <__mikem> oh, I was just going to say, I never see anyone asking for help with it
[06:31] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay, so to add that folder with permissions Id need to sudo mkdir /floppy/texts first? or now would it be sudo mkdir /mnt/text
[06:31] <soundray> mcphail: I'm sure that Openoffice works very well on my amd64 system (Paladine)
[06:31] <mcphail> Paladine: have you tried running pango-querymodules as suggested in the errors?
[06:31] <dr_willis> vnc is one of those very very broad tools with lots of variants. :P it pays to read up and twiddle with it and learn what its doing.
[06:31] <Paladine> mcphail, just seems a lot of errors I get are directly related to gtk which appears to be hosed due to a locale issue
[06:32] <soundray> Cntryboy: now that you've mounted it to /mnt, the command would be 'sudo mkdir /mnt/texts' (followed by the chmod)
[06:32] <mcphail> soundray: do you have any problems with the SaveAs dialogue?
[06:32] <Paladine> mcphail, yeah it didn't fix it
[06:32] <soundray> mcphail: no
[06:32] <__mikem> Paladine, I always thought local refered to the language settings? What kind of errors would be caused by that?
[06:32] <Paladine> I am desperately trying to fixit without having to reinstall ubu
[06:32] <HiP_P> hmmm
[06:32] <mcphail> __mikem: he has been getting gtk errors about font conversions
[06:32] <HiP_P> just got a "C compiler cannot create executables." error
[06:33] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay let me try and thx
[06:33] <[Ex0r] > Paladine, get rid of gtk and re-install it ?
[06:33] <mcphail> Paladine: was this a fresh dapper install or a dist-upgrade from breezy?
[06:33] <Paladine> HiP sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:33] <__mikem> mcphail, he could try reinstalling gtk, and the fonts
[06:33] <Paladine> mcphail, fresh install
[06:34] <Paladine> __mikem, I can't find a specific gtk pacage
[06:34] <Paladine> package
[06:34] <mcphail> __mikem: how do you reinstall gtk without culling all of the packages which depend on it?
[06:34] <Cntryboy> soundray: now I should do sudo chmod 777 /mnt/text right?
[06:34] <HiP_P> ahh there is always one you miss out aint there
[06:34] <soundray> Paladine: have you tried with a fresh user configuration?
[06:34] <Paladine> all the packages in synaptic seem to be specific pixmaps
[06:34] <Cntryboy> soundray: or should chmod have a + like chmod +
[06:34] <soundray> Cntryboy: yes. That will make /mnt/text read-writable for everyone
[06:34] <__mikem> mcphail, I would have thought there was a dummy package available for it
[06:34] <soundray> Cntryboy: no + if you use the numeric notation 777
[06:34] <jrattner1> Cntryboy, no, ie. chmod 755 file
[06:35] <Cntryboy> so what does the + do for chmod
[06:35] <Paladine> soundray, no I only have this user setup on the box at the moment
[06:35] <Cntryboy> I had to use that b4
[06:35] <jrattner1> Cntryboy, beats me : )
[06:35] <dr_willis> Cntryboy,  sets the thing, - unsets it.
[06:35] <dr_willis>  -x +x
[06:35] <HiP_P> :( now missing ncurses.h ill find it
[06:35] <Cntryboy> okay so its not needed?
[06:35] <soundray> Cntryboy: it's another way to express permissions. Read man chmod for all the gory detail.
[06:35] <Cntryboy> kk thx ya'll
[06:36] <Cntryboy> soundray: ut oh :   cd@cd-desktop:~$ sudo chmod 777 /mnt/text
[06:36] <Cntryboy> chmod: cannot access `/mnt/text': No such file or directory
[06:36] <OPENports> hi
[06:36] <Cntryboy> ahh nm
[06:36] <Cntryboy> i got it
[06:36] <soundray> Paladine: I suggest you try this: Stop the running openoffice, do a 'mv ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/openoffice.org2-backup', then start ooo again.
[06:37] <OPENports> whats an easy to use lan scanner for ubuntu so i can see if my xp machine is secure?
[06:37] <stefg> !root > lintball
[06:37] <soundray> Cntryboy: you haven't created it then, or the name is different. /mnt/texts with an s?
[06:37] <Geev8> Help me please my computer started to slow down now day what i need to do to recover the speed
[06:37] <Cntryboy> soundray: yah I forgot the s :)
[06:37] <soundray> Cntryboy: 'ls /mnt' to find out
[06:37] <Zambezi> thoreauputic, Isn't swearing allowed? I've done it before, but I can try to use other words.
[06:37] <moparfan90> when i do the 6 channel test it works fine (exect one i dont hear) but when im in mplayer or xmms i cant get it in suround sound mode.. or even 4 channel
[06:38] <moparfan90> what should i do?
[06:38] <Paladine> soundray, I get exactly the same errors
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Zambezi: it's discouraged - because we have a lot of different people here
[06:38] <jrattner1> moparfan90, live in stereo mode : )
[06:38] <auliya> hi, i got kicked off my session and have connected back on pts/1, any way to get back onto pts/0?
[06:38] <dr_willis> moparfan90,  i set the mixers to just mirror the front to the back speakers
[06:38] <thoreauputic> Zambezi: we try not to offend
[06:38] <moparfan90> i would rather have it in true 6 channel mode
[06:38] <moparfan90> is it possible?
[06:38] <Cntryboy> soundray: have you ever installed nvidia drivers for method 2, getting the installer directly from nvidia?
[06:38] <jrattner1> Zambezi, tgeres a Code of Conduct cause its a support channel
[06:39] <Paladine> mopar, it is not possible to get true 6 channel sound in xmms, it doesn't support it
[06:39] <soundray> Cntryboy: no
[06:39] <thoreauputic> !coc
[06:39] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:39] <Cntryboy> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[06:39] <moparfan90> paladine, what does support true 6channel mode?
[06:39] <Cntryboy> thats the page im going by, but i'm wondering if I need to sh install the nvidia installer first b4 I do thoughs steps
[06:39] <_absolution_> why does it say "command not found" when I tried to run "esetroot"
[06:39] <jrattner1> moparfan90, maybe amarok
[06:39] <soundray> Cntryboy: have you managed to copy your files to floppy?
[06:39] <OPENports> whats an easy to use lan scanner for ubuntu so i can see if my xp machine is secure?
[06:39] <_absolution_> I just installed it
[06:39] <Paladine> moparfan90, I don't know, but there is no way any stereo input on any software is going to generate true 6 channel sound
[06:39] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes thank you
[06:40] <slaye1> Just a quick one: If i type ls in a dir, with many files, my screen just scrolls down, without me being able to scroll up, and see the content.
[06:40] <thoreauputic> _absolution_: try a capital "E"
[06:40] <slaye1> What option do i add to ls?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Esetroot
[06:40] <moparfan90> wel i have movies and i cant get those in 6 channel
[06:40] <Cntryboy> soundray: so edgy said mkfs ect what exactly does that do?
[06:40] <slaye1> Make a filesystem
[06:40] <thoreauputic> _absolution_: same for "Eterm"
[06:40] <POVaddct> slaye1: you don't use an ls option for that. you pipe the ls output to less:  ls | less
[06:40] <Paladine> did you set surround to "indepen" as I told you to or isit still on "Share"
[06:40] <_absolution_> ahh didn't know that it was case sensitive
[06:40] <soundray> Cntryboy: it creates a filesystem on whatever device you point it to.
[06:41] <_absolution_> thx
[06:41] <slaye1> Ahhh nice. THANKS
[06:41] <mcphail> Paladine: is the "openoffice.org-gnome" package installed?
[06:41] <Davegoodson> !xgl
[06:41] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:41] <moparfan90> paladine, even if it simulates 6 channel and just mirrors the sound to the rear.. and center.. i cant get that to work
[06:41] <jrattner1> soundray, nmap
[06:41] <thoreauputic> _absolution_: yeah, Eterm/ Esetroot are among the few that start with a capital
[06:41] <Cntryboy> soundray: so to do fat filesystem is that when id need mtools to make it similar to dos?
[06:41] <soundray> jrattner1: what about it?
[06:41] <jrattner1> soundray, oops wrong person
[06:41] <Paladine> mcphail, yup
[06:41] <dr_willis> Cntryboy,  i think theres alternatives to mtoos for a lot a tasks. but mtools is handy to read/learn about
[06:41] <jrattner1> OPENports, n map
[06:42] <jrattner1> OPENports, nmap
[06:42] <Paladine> moparfan90, you didn't answer my question
[06:42] <moparfan90> o yes
[06:42] <moparfan90> that didnt do anything
[06:42] <Paladine> moparfan90, did you set "Surround" in alsamixer to "Independ" instead of "Share"
[06:42] <soundray> Cntryboy: there's two ways: you can use dosfstools ('sudo mkdosfs /dev/fd0') or mtools ('sudo mformat a:')
[06:42] <ion_bido1> hello, how does ubuntu allows to hear multiple sounds at the same time ?
[06:42] <Paladine> moparfan90, also have you unmuted "Surround" in alsamixer?
[06:43] <stefg> ion_bido1: search google for .asoundrc
[06:43] <moparfan90> the volume is all the way up.. can it still be muted?
[06:43] <Cntryboy> soundray: eh mtools seems much easier lol
[06:43] <ion_bido1> stefg: thanks
[06:43] <Cntryboy> dr_willis: yes I see :)
[06:43] <Paladine> moparfan90, yes, you need to press M to toggle the mute
[06:44] <fowlduck> is there a way to list all packages you have installed since first boot?
[06:44] <moparfan90> its not muted
[06:44] <gnomefreak> fowlduck: dpkg -l iirc
[06:44] <Paladine> ok and what about the center and LFE channels are they muted ?
[06:44] <Cntryboy> soundray: what is a good easy to read linux book for ubuntu commands ect
[06:44] <gnomefreak> fowlduck: that would be the one i just tried it
[06:45] <dr_willis> !bash
[06:45] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:45] <astro_-> anybody ever tried to share NTFS volumes mounted in linux over smb?
[06:45] <dr_willis> !cli
[06:45] <HiP_P> got a hex editor now
[06:45] <fowlduck> gnomefreak: you do recall correctly, but I'm looking to see all packages I have installed on top of the base
[06:45] <HiP_P> cheers
[06:45] <astro_-> I ran into some odditiesa
[06:45] <astro_-> -a
[06:45] <HiP_P> bye bye
[06:45] <soundray> Cntryboy: I tend to use web pages rather than books. For a starter, read ubotu's advice (thanks dr_willis)
[06:45] <moparfan90> paladine, when i do the 6 channel command test thing.. it only works for all speakers when surround is set to shared
[06:45] <kdean06> How do I unbind things from ports? Specifically... Starting control panel: (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::] :8080
[06:45] <fowlduck> gnomefreak: I suppose I could take the base dpkg -l and diff it with the after dpkg -l
[06:45] <dr_willis> astro_-,  you could mount and share them.. but writing to them will still be risky and should not be done.
[06:45] <ion_bido1> stefg: is there a specific .asoundrc configured on ubuntu ?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> oic sorry that i dont know
[06:45] <Paladine> moparfan90,  weird my only works in 6 channel when surround is set to independ hehehe
[06:45] <fowlduck> gnomefreak: just looking for an easier way
[06:45] <stefg> http://elibrary.fultus.com/technical/index.jsp?topic=/com.fultus.linux.guides/guides/Bash-Beginners-Guide/index.html for more indepth knowledge on bash
[06:45] <astro_-> dr_willis: I don't want to write, just read
[06:46] <dr_willis> That Advance Bash Guide, and the Orially Using Bash books - are must reads.
[06:46] <astro_-> dr_willis: but for some reason it's not working
[06:46] <Zambezi> thoreauputic, jrattner1 Okay. I never heard this before, but I'll try to do my best. I swear alot so it could be a problem, but I promise to think about it.
[06:46] <moparfan90> paladine, whats lfe?
[06:46] <fowlduck> anyone else know how to see what packages you have installed (excluding the base packages)
[06:46] <gnomefreak> +1 on abs
[06:46] <Cntryboy> dr_willis: was that directed to me or someone else
[06:46] <thoreauputic> Zambezi: OK :)
[06:46] <StAnLeY^> hello, I was wondering .. is Ubuntu in GPL violation by sending binary-only CDs and no written proposal for distributing the source ?
[06:46] <astro_-> dr_willis: I have them mounted and I can access them in ubuntu, but I cant access them over samba although I've shared them
[06:46] <dr_willis> astro_-,  you may need to have the umask set correctly for it to be shared right.. cant say that ive ever tried that.
[06:46] <jrattner1> Zambezi, its not a big deal
[06:46] <soundray> Cntryboy: it certainly applies to you :)
[06:46] <fowlduck> !dpkg -l
[06:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about dpkg -l
[06:47] <dr_willis> astro_-,  or ya could share them as a public, unprotected read only share
[06:47] <Paladine> moparfan90, LFE is the woofer
[06:47] <gnomefreak> StAnLeY^: no the source is avalible  to get
[06:47] <thoreauputic> jrattner1: it becomes a big deal if it continues - good way to get gagged/banned
[06:47] <moparfan90> oo.
[06:47] <Cntryboy> soundray: so many lines for this slow dialup, its hard to keep up what exactly did he type again?
[06:47] <ggilbert_> StAnLeY^: They aren't required to send a written offer iirc. It's just one of the valid options they can choose
[06:47] <soundray> Cntryboy: no, hold on, Advanced Bash is unnecessary. Stick with ubotu's cli advice first:
[06:47] <soundray> !tell Cntryboy about cli
[06:47] <moparfan90> i dont hear that in the 6 channel test thing..  and its not muted
[06:47] <stefg> ion_bido1: no ther is no .asoundrc setup in ubuntu. By default the 'esd' sound daemon /should/ take care of mixing sounds, but esd is somewhat questionable. Learn about alsa - mixing and dmix and set up your .asoundrc in your home-dir
[06:48] <ion_bidon> stefg: cool thanks
[06:48] <moparfan90> i wouldnt bother you about this but i spent $300 on my sound system so i want it to work right
[06:48] <Paladine> moparfan90, mind you you are using mic and line in for your surround sound aren't you?  I am using independent channels (I even have tv audio coming in through line in and can run both xmms and the tv at the same time with both audio streams playing and control their volume independently)
[06:48] <kalosaurusrex> question about vnc setup. if I reboot my home machine, and it goes to the gdm login prompt, how can I make it either start the vnc server at boot, or just login to my user so that it will start the vnc server.  I'm afraid to restart my box if I won't be able to login to the bloody thing after.
[06:48] <_absolution_> can I get "fbsetbg" through apt-get?
[06:48] <Cntryboy> soundray: thx, and thx dr_willis
[06:49] <soundray> kalosaurusrex: you can configure autologin via System-Administration-Login Window
[06:49] <moparfan90> paladine... i have .. yeah that
[06:49] <dr_willis> _absolution_,  i think its part of the fluxbox package. or tools or related packatges
[06:49] <OrgulloKmoore> is there any downside to using half kde and half gnome applications?
[06:49] <Jemt> _absolution_: Yes, it's part of the fluxbox package
[06:49] <soundray> kalosaurusrex: you could also ssh into the box and run x11vnc
[06:49] <ggilbert_> Has anyone gotten totem-xine-firefox-plugin to play mp3s? It doesn't register mp3 as one of the formats it plays. (yes i"ve read Restricted Formats)
[06:49] <Cntryboy> soundray: can u help me do one more thing? I want to add all my favorites to that floppy also, because a lot of help I have in my favorties any clue?
[06:49] <Ng> OrgulloKmoore: you'll use a little more ram doing it that way, because you ahve two sets of desktop environment libraries loaded, and they might not integrate together so well. otherwise, no :)
[06:49] <rendo> I have quota installed so how do I set diskspaces for each user?
[06:49] <soundray> Cntryboy: do you mean firefox bookmarks?
[06:49] <moparfan90> paladine, this is what i have
[06:49] <moparfan90> http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=1810&ProductName=GA-K8VM800M
[06:49] <Cntryboy> soundray: Ive already added my favorites folder to floppy
[06:49] <ggilbert_> OrgulloKmoore: Not really. A bit more ram needed and not as well integrated, but nothing will break.
[06:49] <Paladine> moparfan90, I added a couple of buttons to my gnome panel just the other day for mute toggles on tv and pc
[06:50] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes
[06:50] <OrgulloKmoore> thanks, Ng, ggilbert_
[06:50] <Paladine> I am just waiting for the uys at rivatv to release the next version with vivo support for the nvidia 6600GT so I can stream the signal from my satelite tv decoder into my PC
[06:51] <Paladine> s/uys/guys
[06:51] <Stormx2> Hey!
[06:51] <OrgulloKmoore> I like the general look of gnome but I can't get away from Konsole, Konqueror, and (sometimes) Konversation :P
[06:51] <rendo> Can anyone help me with my problem?  I'm trying to set up diskspace quotas for users and I don't know how.
[06:51] <sven__> i have debian experimental repository enabled, but i still can't install gimp beta packages. are there any extra options i should add to apt?
[06:51] <soundray> Cntryboy: in firefox, do Bookmarks-Manage Bookmarks-File-Export and save the file. Then copy it to the floppy as well.
[06:51] <sven__> (i know i do it on my own risk)
[06:52] <moparfan90> paladine, did you see that link/
[06:52] <Paladine> mopar, yeah but it is pointless to me, I am using norcechipset on an asus board
[06:52] <Paladine> nforce
[06:52] <moparfan90> oo.. well just showing you the chipset so i know if im tryin to do something thats not possible
[06:53] <moparfan90> o well
[06:53] <stefg> rendo: google, which is _really your friend_ spit out:  http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2005/10/disk-quotas-in-linux-explained.html
[06:53] <Cntryboy> soundray: i did and it added one file called bookmarks
[06:53] <rendo> I'm already there.
[06:53] <Paladine> moparfan90, your best bet is to post your specifics on the forum and hope someone with the same setup or experience of that chiipset can help you
[06:53] <soundray> Cntryboy: do a 'less /mnt/texts/bookmarks' to check that it worked.
[06:53] <moparfan90> ok
[06:53] <noah> when i go System/Quit... only one icon shows up, for "Lock Screen"... the others should have icons too, yes? what package should i reinstall to get them?
[06:54] <mcphail> Paladine: is "libglib2.0-data" installed?
[06:54] <Cntryboy> soundray: it didn't, it only exported one file called bookmarks.html
[06:54] <Paladine> mcphail, checking now
[06:54] <soundray> Cntryboy: that's fine, it should contain all your bookmarks.
[06:54] <sorush20> is there a gui which would allow me to optimize me hdd pram... using hdparm..
[06:54] <Paladine> mcphail, yup installed
[06:54] <thoreauputic> noah: look under system-prefs - power management
[06:55] <soundray> Cntryboy: enter in the URL field 'file:///mnt/texts/bookmarks.html' to see if it has worked.
[06:55] <Cntryboy> soundray: i went there through gui, and yes that html contains all bookmarks on it
[06:55] <noah> thoreauputic: no no, the buttons are there, they're just missing icons... i'd show you a screenshot but it doesn't want to take one when that dialog is open
[06:55] <soundray> Cntryboy: good
[06:55] <Cntryboy> soundray: thx man ur a life saver
[06:56] <thoreauputic> noah: ah - don't know then - have you changed icon themes?
[06:56] <soundray> Cntryboy: what are you planning that makes you worry about losing your data?
[06:56] <noah> thoreauputic: i don't think so... it's been this way since i upgraded to dapper a couple days ago
[06:57] <thoreauputic> noah: try playing witht theme details in the theme dialogue
[06:57] <Gothi[c] > How come glxgears doesn't report the framerate in ubuntu?
[06:57] <dr_willis> !glxgears
[06:57] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[06:57] <thoreauputic> noah: try other icon themes and see what happens
[06:57] <Paladine> so anyway I was on the vmware website last night, and according to their site, the serial keys for vmware server will remain valid when vmware server goes from beta to general release
[06:58] <Gothi[c] > thanks
[06:58] <Cntryboy> soundray: nothing big to you I bet, but for me, I don't want to lose my txt and fav. incase I have to reformat.. I'm going to try this http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper
[06:58] <dr_willis> because the glxgears maintainer is anal. :P
[06:58] <Cntryboy> soundray: method 2, and already downloaded the installer from nvidia like it asked, but im not sure if I should sh install it like nvidia says first and then go back to that page and follow the directions
[06:58] <Gothi[c] > it doesn't have a --help or -h and no man page
[06:58] <Gothi[c] > either one of those would help
[06:58] <Gothi[c] > :)
[06:58] <Bonkers> hey can someone help me with sudo ?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> dr_willis: but funny - glxgears -iacknowledgethathistoolisnotabenchmark   is pretty amusing :)
[06:59] <soundray> Cntryboy: let me check
[06:59] <Paladine> Cntryboy, Ijust installed it then did nvidia-xconfig
[06:59] <Bonkers> its not asking me for my password
[06:59] <Bonkers> http://pastebin.ca/74925
[06:59] <Bonkers> is my sudoers file
[06:59] <stefg> guys.. the nvidia packs are very up to date... why bothering? Besides that there's module-assistant
[06:59] <Cntryboy> paladine: then did you go back to the page I listed and followed the directions?
[06:59] <Paladine> Cntryboy, I never needed to
[06:59] <jrib> Bonkers: it cache's the password for 15 minutes after you enter it the first time
[06:59] <noah> thoreauputic: hmm, a different icon shows up for different themes, but it always shows only the one, for Lock Screen
[06:59] <Cntryboy> paladine; what card do u use
[07:00] <noah> thoreauputic: you see six icons in there right? one for Log Out, etc?
[07:00] <Bonkers> jrib:  its never asked for it
[07:00] <thoreauputic> noah: yes
[07:00] <Paladine> Cntryboy, the new drivers with the nvidia-xconfig setup the system perfectly and even rewrote xorg.conf to enable glx
[07:00] <Bonkers> which is wrong
[07:00] <dr_willis> thoreauputic,  write your own glxgearsbenchmark pprogram and state that it IS a benchmark. :P
[07:00] <jrib> Bonkers: what does the command 'groups' return?
[07:00] <soundray> Cntryboy: under 6) it actually instructs you to unpack the thing only
[07:00] <Bonkers> i want it to force me to give my password
[07:00] <thoreauputic> dr_willis: heheh
[07:00] <Paladine> I am using dual 660GTs
[07:00] <Paladine> 6600GTs
[07:00] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, i'm having problems compiling XChat 2.6.4, in the "make" stage
[07:00] <Bonkers> jrib: may i pm them?
[07:00] <Paladine> Ihave one monitor on each card and have enabled xinerama
[07:00] <jrib> Bonkers: if you want
[07:01] <Cntryboy> paladine: the problem I'm having with this fx5500 is that when i start x back with nvidia enabled i lose visual and my monitor goes to sleep.. So it has something to do with my refresh rates being set odd..
[07:01] <soundray> Cntryboy: are you sure you need the latest nvidia driver? In my experience it's better to stick with whatever ubuntu supplies.
[07:01] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes ive apt-get install nvidia-glx, but I get that sleepy monitor
[07:01] <jrib> Bonkers: no need to be in the 'sudo' group, that's what makes you not need a password
[07:01] <Bonkers> ok
[07:01] <Paladine> Cntryboy, you can change the refresh rates in xorg.conf to the ones for your spefici monitor, thats what I did
[07:01] <Bonkers> ty jrib
[07:01] <Bonkers> i shall remove myself
[07:02] <soundray> Cntryboy: have you followed the ubuntu wiki instructions:
[07:02] <soundray> !nvidia
[07:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:02] <Cntryboy> soundray: to the T
[07:02] <Cntryboy> soundray: my xorg.0.log says this: (WW) NVIDIA(0): No size information available in CRT-0's EDID; cannot compute
[07:02] <Cntryboy> (WW) NVIDIA(0):     DPI from EDID.
[07:02] <Paladine> I am actually incredibly impressed with the nvidia linux drivers, they are better than their windowsdrivers
[07:02] <soundray> Cntryboy: and did you do fixres?
[07:02] <soundray> !fixres
[07:02] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:02] <Cntryboy> so I know something is up with refresh or dpi or something, thats why I can't get a visual
[07:03] <Cntryboy> soundray: no will that help me get visual and monitor not going to sleep?
[07:03] <mcphail> Paladine: is there a chance to set locale when doing a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:03] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, i'm having problems compiling XChat 2.6.4, in the "make" stage - something about GTK
[07:03] <soundray> Cntryboy: I think it might. No promises though. Much easier than going to the latest driver, in any case.
[07:03] <Paladine> mcphail, I can try, that won't screw up my xorg.conf though right?
[07:04] <OneSeventeen> I made a link to a folder, moved it to my desktop, and now I can't get it off my desktop... how do I delete a link?
[07:04] <mcphail> Paladine: that's why I'm asking you - don't want to hose my own!
[07:04] <Cntryboy> soundray: let me check that page, but you do understand what my problem is correct? about sleepy monitor ect.
[07:04] <soundray> mcphail: locales aren't set in xorg.conf
[07:04] <OneSeventeen> dragging to the trash says "Unable to move to trash: operation not permitted", and just using "delete" doesn't do anything either
[07:04] <mcphail> soundray: no, but Xorg has a funny way of dealing with them...
[07:05] <Cntryboy> soundray: I have the whole xorg.0.log at the time of the error if you need to see it, im using nv right now so I can have visual
[07:05] <ggilbert_> Does anyone know how to get totem-xine-firefox-plugin to realize that it can play mp3s?
[07:05] <mcphail> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias etc
[07:05] <soundray> Cntryboy: I think I do, and I think the reason is that X is trying an impossible set of resolution parameters.
[07:05] <kalosaurusrex> soundray:thanks
[07:05] <Paladine> mcphail, I ama bit dubious about reconfiguring xorg server hehehe I have a bunch of custom settings in my xorg.conf
[07:05] <mcphail> Paladine: i guessed that from the current threads!
[07:06] <Cntryboy> soundray: but to do what this says, I'm not sure if I can because when im using nv I have stuff listed in xorg.conf
[07:06] <soundray> OneSeventeen: what's the name of the link?
[07:06] <jrattner1> Paladine, so back it up first
[07:06] <Paladine> jrattner1, thats exactly what I just did hehehe
[07:06] <Cntryboy> soundray: and if I go back to nvidia I can't see what im doing to correct this lol. I'm sooo lost
[07:07] <OneSeventeen> soundray: "link to link to uDrive"  (i accidentally clicked make link instead of rename on the first link)
[07:07] <Stormx2> What could I use to convert an .mp4 to an mp3?
[07:08] <__mikem> Stormx2, you just asked how to convert from a video format to an audio format
[07:08] <__mikem> WHich makes no sence
[07:08] <soundray> Cntryboy: don't worry. The monitor settings on that page work with nv and nvidia alike.
[07:08] <Stormx2> __mikem: Ack! Sorry! m4a
[07:08] <__mikem> m4a is also a video format
[07:08] <Stormx2> This file has no video
[07:09] <Paladine> whats 128meg in kB?
[07:09] <__mikem> IT just means its a video that just happens to have no video frames in it.
[07:09] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay, ill read over this, kinda seems confusing though well for me that is since im new to linux
[07:09] <Stormx2> __mikem: i can see you're gonna be no help :)
[07:09] <soundray> OneSeventeen: try removing it with root rights in a terminal: 'sudo rm /home/yourusername/Desktop/link\ to\ link\ to\ uDrive'
[07:09] <Stormx2> __mikem: Found a thread explaining it, thanks anyway
[07:10] <Paladine> 128*1024
[07:10] <__mikem> Ok, that works
[07:10] <OneSeventeen> soundray: nevermind, I renamed "uDrive" to "U" and now I am able to delete the links.... that's weird
[07:10] <Cntryboy> soundray: b4 I read this, is there anyway you can help me fix my printer to where when I print files and it goes to the next page it doesn't leave off txt? When I print and it goes to another page it doesn't start where it left off and goes on down some and I lose information...
[07:10] <__mikem> Am I right to be under the impression that 4 layer mpeg implies video format
[07:10] <Cntryboy> soundray: if I can fix this printer issue ill print this out and won't have to worry about finding commands if something happens
[07:12] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, i'm having problems compiling XChat 2.6.4, in the "make" stage - something about GTK | can some one please help me?
[07:12] <benoy> hello, does anyone know how to make an external hard drive formatted with windows xp compatible with ubuntu?
[07:12] <soundray> Cntryboy: are you printing from firefox?
[07:12] <Cntryboy> soundray: yes
[07:12] <mcphail> Paladine: the only thing google is coming up with are references to hacking /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias
[07:13] <mcphail> Paladine: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg05995.html
[07:13] <soundray> Cntryboy: sounds like firefox is assuming A4 when you're printing to Letter format. Correct?
[07:13] <mcphail> Paladine: http://archives.mandrivalinux.com/cooker-i18n/2002-03/msg00003.php
[07:13] <Cntryboy> A4?
[07:14] <magical_trevsky> hi, can anyone tell me how I can find out whether a usb port is usb2 or not without a gui?
[07:14] <Paladine> mcphail I will check those out
[07:14] <Paladine> mcphail, just checking the output from the xserver reconfigure now
[07:14] <PuG> Hi, GH
[07:14] <PuG> Has anyone here have a build of the latest TA Spring for Ubuntu?
[07:15] <Cntryboy> soundray: not sure what you mean by A4
[07:15] <soundray> Cntryboy: it's the standard paper format in Europe, Africa and elsewhere. Slightly longer and slimmer than US letter.
[07:15] <Davegoodson> How would i start something via the console? eg install.sh??
[07:15] <Paladine> mcphail, it added a bunch of lines that don't exist in my current xorg.conf sec I will pastebin them
[07:16] <Cntryboy> soundray: where would I go into firefox to see
[07:16] <mcphail> Paladine: I can pastebin my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias if it helps, but I'm on i686
[07:16] <soundray> Cntryboy: let me check...
[07:16] <finalbeta> caps lock is disabled at every boot, can I set it to enable, or can it remember the previous state?
[07:16] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay man and thx
[07:17] <ubuntu_Iz> hey, someone was trying to help me with a problem i had with ubuntu shutting its self down
[07:17] <ubuntu_Iz> the problem is with the acpid
[07:17] <Paladine> mcphail, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16769  <- that section doesn't exist inmy current xorg.conf
[07:17] <brotherJohn1234> ubuntu_Iz: does it go HOT ?
[07:17] <ubuntu_Iz> just for future reference
[07:17] <ubuntu_Iz> no
[07:17] <ubuntu_Iz> acpi
[07:18] <ubuntu_Iz> i stopped the daemon, and no more problems
[07:18] <Davegoodson> How do i Execute a .sh file using the console??
[07:18] <brotherJohn1234> ubuntu_Iz: in my case - acpi shutdown my machine, because of the temperatur from the cpu.
[07:19] <soundray> Cntryboy: what do you get when you 'cat /etc/papersize'?
[07:19] <mcphail> Paladine: I can't see it hurting to add them and restart X...
[07:19] <Paladine> ok why is my locale alis file aliasing iso 88591 to en_US when clearly my locale is set to en_GB
[07:19] <brotherJohn1234> Davegoodson: chmod a+x FILENAME.sh; ./FILENAME.sh
[07:19] <ubuntu_Iz> im not sure why it does on mine, but it runs win xp fine
[07:19] <ubuntu_Iz> also it runs the ubuntu livecd fine
[07:19] <mcphail> Paladine: X guesses its own locales
[07:19] <Cntryboy> soundray: a4
[07:19] <Cntryboy> lol
[07:20] <kristian> Can someone help me with my graphic card? There is just a little thing that dosen't work, and that's the driver :P Everything is installed, it's just not enabled, the Mesa driver is still the chief :P
[07:20] <Paladine> why on earth doesn't it use the system locales?
[07:20] <mcphail> Paladine: because that would be easy...
[07:20] <soundray> Cntryboy: do a 'echo USletter | sudo tee /etc/papersize', then restart firefox. Go to File-Print Setup and adjust the margins - give it one inch each side and 1.5 at the bottom. Then it should work.
[07:20] <Paladine> I bet I know why this is broken then
[07:20] <mcphail> ?
[07:21] <Paladine> when I installed ubuntu it installed with en_US locales
[07:21] <Paladine> I changed it to en_GB
[07:21] <Paladine> from the terminal
[07:21] <ubuntu_Iz> brotherJohn1234, do you think i will have to stop the acpid everytime i start my pc?
[07:21] <Davegoodson> whats the default password for root? ive just installed ubuntu?
[07:21] <brotherJohn1234> ubuntu_Iz: i disabled the daemon. -- and a month after bought a new pc :)
[07:21] <soundray> !root
[07:21] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:22] <Cntryboy> sroundray: thx let me try that
[07:22] <ubuntu_Iz> lol, oh.  you see, this is a new pc :(
[07:22] <Paradoxx> !tell Davegoodson about !root
[07:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about !root
[07:22] <Paradoxx> !tell Davegoodson about root
[07:22] <mcphail> Paladine: do you want a copy of my /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias ?
[07:22] <sylvar> Anyone know where I can get a newer gparted?  Installing from source puts me into CPAN dependency hell (it needs XML::Parser)...
[07:22] <Paladine> mcphail, sure I will take a look at it
[07:22] <Davegoodson> thanks
[07:22] <soundray> sylvar: get the gparted boot CD from the web site. Solves many problems at once.
[07:23] <mcphail> Paladine: give me a mo to paste it (awkward from my screen session...)
[07:23] <Paladine> mcphail you might not be able to use pastebin, it is a huge file
[07:23] <m1ckeyknox> this may seem silly... but how do I restart?
[07:24] <devios> for the record, the Listen player is pretty dern cool, and it's designed for gnome... playing around with it atm and loving it.
[07:24] <Paladine> m1ckeyknox, if you can't find the button in xorg, goto a terminal and type sudo reboot
[07:24] <sylvar> soundray: yes, but unfortunately I can't get my CD drive onto the same IDE cable as the drives I want to work with, and I only have one IDE channel to work with.  I've also tried LiveUSB and couldn't get it to boot (I umounted and syslinux -s'ed it)
[07:24] <devios> similar artists, lyrics, album covers, ipod mgmt, etc. - very slick
[07:24] <m1ckeyknox> Paladine: thanks!
[07:25] <mcphail> Paladine: you can pm me your email if you like
[07:25] <Davegoodson> dgoodson@dgoodson-laptop:~/all$ sudo chmod a+x install.sh; ./install.sh
[07:25] <Davegoodson> Password:
[07:25] <Davegoodson> You must be root to install the DRI drivers.
[07:25] <brotherJohn1234> Davegoodson: chmod a+x install.sh; sudo ./install.sh
[07:25] <Davegoodson> ah
[07:25] <Monfrere> Yooooooooooooooooo
[07:25] <Davegoodson> thanks :P
[07:25] <Paladine> mcphail, Ineed to be registered to send pms
[07:25] <sylvar> soundray: hmm, looks like I can install the Perl libraries I need through the Ubuntu repositories rather than CPAN... this is looking up.
[07:25] <Paladine> just email it to paladine at naked-geek dot net
[07:25] <Monfrere> how are u my brothers ?
[07:25] <brotherJohn1234> Davegoodson: the ";" splits the commands.
[07:26] <Davegoodson> ah
[07:26] <soundray> sylvar: I think you should sort out your hardware problem. In the current setup, it'll be dangerous to run gparted anyway because it wants all partitions unmounted.
[07:26] <brotherJohn1234> Davegoodson: therefore no sudo for your ./install.sh.
[07:26] <Davegoodson> so thats two commands there then?
[07:26] <Led_Zeppelin> hey, anyone set up PXE install here, does it work with a router?
[07:26] <mcphail> Paladine: ok
[07:26] <brotherJohn1234> Davegoodson: jep
[07:26] <Cntryboy> soundray: Im getting there, under file print, I did have options also to put it back on my printer because it was something else and under paper size I put us legal.. but when I went back to make sure its not there again lol..
[07:26] <h2os> where do you define ypur mount options for /var/run tmpfs
[07:26] <soundray> sylvar: a PCI IDE controller doesn't cost much and will help no end...
[07:26] <ThE-LiGhT> hey, i'm having problems compiling XChat 2.6.4, in the "make" stage - something about GTK | can some one please help me?
[07:26] <Cntryboy> soundray: do I need to do this command everytime I print?
[07:27] <Paladine> mcphail, am in #xorg too see if they canfigure it out
[07:27] <jrib> ThE-LiGhT: try: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[07:27] <soundray> Cntryboy: I'm not sure, sorry. Did your printing work this once, though?
[07:28] <Cntryboy> soundray: haven't tried yet
[07:28] <ThE-LiGhT> jrib, DONE now recompile?
[07:28] <yallaman> ubuntu dont notice if i put in a new usb device.. usb headset or usb disk...how can i get it to autodetect if i put somthing in usb port?
[07:28] <jrib> ThE-LiGhT: yes, try now
[07:29] <mcphail> Paladine: sent - do a diff to see how it compares to yours
[07:29] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys i have an extern 40gb usb drive. I plugged it into an old mac yesterday, i unplugged it and plugged it again but then it wouldnt work. I took it home and plugged it into my mac and it wasnt found! i plugged it into my linux box and it was discouvered. then into my mac again. but no luck. how can i do to get my mac to doscuver my usbdrive?
[07:29] <Paladine> mcphail, I will do, thanks for all your time on this mate, it is a tricky one
[07:29] <mcphail> Paladine: np. Hope it helps. Xorg is dark water...
[07:29] <yallaman> ubuntu dont notice if i put in a new usb device.. usb headset or usb disk...how can i get it to autodetect if i put somthing in usb port?
[07:30] <soundray> Cntryboy: apparently, firefox printing is configured through environment variables. Search the web for MOZ_PRINTER and you'll find out more than I know... ;)
[07:30] <Paladine> forcing vmware to use local settings fixed it with no further problems (apart from all the error in theterminal window it is running from) the actual application is working perfectly
[07:31] <borntobewild> guys the only difference between ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu is the desktop system isnt it?
[07:31] <soundray> Ackeubu_: are you running Ubuntu on that Mac?
[07:31] <Dragoonz> anyone know of a desktop publisher like windows terminal server?
[07:31] <Paladine> mcphail, #xorg is fullof 123 mutes by the looks of it ;)
[07:31] <Cntryboy> soundray: okay trying print now
[07:31] <mcphail> Paladine: i think the openoffice problem is different from the vmware one
[07:31] <soundray> !ltsp
[07:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about ltsp
[07:31] <minesh2006> anyway here completed the ubuntu certification
[07:31] <Geev8> hellow there when i want to copy files to floppy i suppose to mount in this way sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy but when i use sudo mount vfta /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[07:31] <m1ckeyknox> how do I switch between workspaces in gnome? I thought it was alt+F#... but that seems to be a no-go
[07:31] <minesh2006> anyone
[07:31] <yallaman> !usb
[07:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[07:31] <HedgeMage> Dragoonz: ummm, windows terminal server isn't a desktop publisher, but you can use "remote desktop" to connect in that manner if that's what you're after.
[07:31] <rendo> What do I do if I can't remove a file in root? :/
[07:31] <Cntryboy> soundray: at first I had many new options, but they are gone now, not sure why, but when I did have the options I put us legal for paper size, and changed pagesetup to 1.5 sides/bottoms
[07:32] <S1ixx> hi
[07:32] <finalbeta> Dragoonz, citrix ?
[07:32] <Geev8> i can see my file but i cant copy files
[07:32] <S1ixx> can someone help me with ubuntu ?
[07:32] <soundray> Dragoonz: there is a linux terminal server project (ltsp). It works with ubuntu in principle.
[07:32] <finalbeta> Anyone knows a tool that does the same like the F10-11 button in compiz? The taskswitch plugin?
[07:32] <Ackeubu_> soundray no i dont have a wired keyboard for the mac. otherwise i would have been running ubuntu on it.. >P
[07:32] <devios> ask a question and we'll try :)
[07:32] <HedgeMage> S1ixx: just ask your question :)
[07:32] <S1ixx> ok
[07:32] <S1ixx> well
[07:32] <soundray> Ackeubu_: I think you have a Mac support problem then, not an ubuntu one.
[07:33] <Cooner750> Hello
[07:33] <Cooner750> Command to mount /dev/sda2 ?
[07:33] <BeatYou> Hi, is there a log file I can trail that shows what commands the gui (gnome) is executing, such as when I mount a network share etc
[07:33] <S1ixx> how do you login as root
[07:33] <HedgeMage> soundray: Windows Terminal Server doesn't actually do what it's name sounds like, though, it's just remote desktop
[07:33] <Bonkers> how do i install a gtk theme ?
[07:33] <Bonkers> ?
[07:33] <S1ixx> i heard you need to enable something
[07:33] <borntobewild> guys the only difference between ubuntu,kubuntu,xubuntu is the desktop system isnt it?
[07:33] <sylvar> I find it amusing that I was able to install about a dozen gparted dependencies and get all the way through the configure script before learning that I don't yet have make.
[07:33] <Davegoodson> any one have any exp. with installing the drivers, XGL and Compiz for a intel 915 card?
[07:33] <brotherJohn1234> S1ixx: you should not login as root.
[07:33] <S1ixx> well i was told to
[07:34] <Paladine> slixx, just use sudo
[07:34] <HedgeMage> S1ixx: well you can do all of root's jobs using sudo which is safer
[07:34] <S1ixx> because i cant change stuff
[07:34] <Cntryboy> soundray: nah it did it super skinny and long this time lol
[07:34] <soundray> HedgeMage: I see, thanks. Dragoonz, if you're interested in remote control sw, look at vnc and vino-preferences.
[07:34] <S1ixx> i tried to change a file
[07:34] <Cntryboy> soundray: don't worry about it thx anyways
[07:34] <yallaman> ubuntu dont notice if i put in a new usb device.. usb headset or usb disk...how can i get it to autodetect if i put somthing in usb port?
[07:34] <foxiness> i have trouble with firewall "firestarter" if am forget to change the device what i want to use it will not work then ? any idea?
[07:34] <S1ixx> in new to linux you see
[07:34] <Bonkers> how do i install a gtk 2 theme ?
[07:34] <Blaze^^> can anybody help me with the installation of vmware?
[07:34] <HedgeMage> soundray: np... we run into that question in Edubuntu a lot :)
[07:34] <S1ixx> and when i tried to change sources.list
[07:34] <devios> S1ixx: you might wanna carefully read http://diveintomark.org/archives/2006/06/26/essentials-2006
[07:34] <Paladine> slixx, prefix your commands with sudo in the shell, solike if you want to edit xorg.conf do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:34] <Bonkers> !gtk
[07:34] <ubotu> gtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications
[07:34] <mcphail> Blaze^^: what's the problem?
[07:34] <devios> wrong link
[07:34] <foxiness> yallaman, it work with me .with out any change
[07:35] <Geev8> hellow there when i want to copy files to floppy i suppose to mount in this way sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000 /dev/fd/0 /media/floppy but when i use sudo mount vfta /dev/fd0 /media/floppyi can see my file but i cant copy files. Question: do need remember this way? the command is too long so i cant remember it
[07:35] <sylvar> ...and g++
[07:35] <Blaze^^> mcphail: when i try to install it i get the following error: Unable to get the access rights of source file "./vmware-vix/bin".
[07:35] <Blaze^^> Execution aborted.
[07:35] <Bonkers> how do i install a gtk 2  theme from gnomelook.org?
[07:35] <Bonkers> ?
[07:35] <devios> S1ixx: correct link: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31053.html
[07:35] <foxiness> Bonkers, go to art.gnome.org and you will see then :)
[07:35] <Blaze^^> mcphail: any idea?
[07:35] <BeatYou> Hi, is there a log file I can trail that shows what commands the gui (gnome) is executing, such as when I mount a network share etc
[07:35] <ThE-LiGhT> jrib, thx!!! you are the mannnn :) //version me :)
[07:35] <mcphail> Blaze^^: are you installing as root?
[07:35] <yallaman> foxiness: strange.. it just dont detect if i unplug and the plug in again
[07:36] <fernando> hi all, i have upgraded to edgy and now sudo don' t working http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16771, anyone know why?
[07:36] <Blaze^^> mcphail: yes
[07:36] <rendo> How do I remove a file if I can't remove it while as root?
[07:36] <brotherJohn1234> Geev8: look at /etc/fstab, there you can place your "uid/gid" paremeters to become default.
[07:36] <ali_> anyone with experience on squid with ubuntu ?
[07:36] <foxiness> yallaman, coz you dont unmount it
[07:36] <finalbeta> Can I move the screen (to the left) thru software?
[07:36] <jrib> fernando: #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[07:36] <mcphail> Blaze^^: is this vmware workstation or server?
[07:36] <Ackeubu_> soundray yeah i guess you are right sorry
[07:36] <Tenshi> is anyone experiencing MAJOR disk-access lag in the later 2.6 kernels?
[07:36] <foxiness> yallaman, you need first to unmount it then see the diff your self :)
[07:36] <Geev8> BrotherJohn: ok
[07:36] <yallaman> oh..i gotta unmount my usb headphones?
[07:36] <minesh2006> hi
[07:36] <Blaze^^> mcphail: it's VMware Server for Linux.
[07:36] <Blaze^^> The core application needed to run VMware Server and interact with it on the local machine. TAR Binary.
[07:36] <fernando> jrib: thank you
[07:37] <brotherJohn1234> rendo: is the file on a local disk ? -> than you should remove it as root.
[07:37] <minesh2006> any voice based yahoo client on ubuntu
[07:37] <rendo> It is, and I can't.
[07:37] <mcphail> Blaze^^: i have never done the server install, I'm afraid. the vmware people are usually quite helpful though.
[07:37] <brotherJohn1234> rendo: which error message do you get ?
[07:37] <BeatYou> Hi, is there a log file I can trail that shows what commands the gui (gnome) is executing, such as when I mount a network share etc
[07:37] <foxiness> Bonkers, download what you want then to go gnome-theme-manger then install button then where the theme you download then it will work for you
[07:38] <rendo> remove write-protected regular file
[07:38] <Bonkers> ok
[07:38] <rendo> Operation not-permitted :/
[07:39] <cwillu> what's the word on openoffice quicklaunch;
[07:39] <cwillu> ?
[07:39] <mcphail> Paladine: any joy? need to go soon...
[07:39] <foxiness> is there a problem on apt server ? the update from apt-get has some filled
[07:40] <Bonkers> foxiness: ty where would i go for icons?
[07:40] <foxiness> Bonkers, and there a better idea on art.gnome.org just drug and drop the link
[07:40] <sylvar> Sigh... okay, I should have read the parted manual.
[07:41] <brotherJohn1234> rendo: look for the progamms lsattr + chattr.
[07:41] <Paladine> mcphail, I just hd a guest arrive so i will have to check it later, sorry I never realised you were waiting on me mate
[07:41] <Bonkers> hmm i must have been in the wrong bit i was looking at how they create themes
[07:41] <sylvar> So: Is there anything that'll run on Dapper that will let me copy, resize, or move ntfs partitions?
[07:41] <mcphail> Paladine: np. Good luck - i'm off home
[07:41] <brotherJohn1234> rendo: if you have the ext2 filesystem.
[07:41] <rendo> ext3
[07:41] <foxiness> Bonkers, http://art.gnome.org/themes/metacity/1256 "Drag and drop this theme into the theme manager to install"
[07:41] <brotherJohn1234> ext2 == ext3    ... basicly
[07:41] <Paladine> mcphail, thanks for thehelp mate have a good evening
[07:42] <lakcaj> brotherJohn1234: well, except for that whole journaling thing
[07:42] <Bonkers> foxiness: i have the theme installed now looking to change icons
[07:42] <cwillu> sylvar, I've resized ntfs with gparted before, although I was thrilled by the manner in which it did it (it looked like it failed, two different ways, but it did actually resize)
[07:42] <oggi> \join #wohnheim
[07:42] <foxiness> Bonkers, http://art.gnome.org/themes/icon/ "the same idea i think :) its simple you dont trust me ?
[07:43] <Davegoodson> when im installing the DRI drivers, and i look like the log file it get this message : ./install.sh: line 678: make: command not found
[07:43] <cwillu> sylvar: alternatively, if you can find a copy of 'bootitng', an old dos bootdisk/bootmanager, it has support for resizing ntfs partitions, and is my preferred tool
[07:43] <jacopoexchange> is it  possible to set different languages for different users?
[07:43] <Thug-N-Me> hi guys
[07:43] <_absolution_> how do I add an irc channel?
[07:43] <mike930> is there a program that finds orphaned libraries?
[07:43] <_absolution_> in xchat
[07:44] <foxiness> Bonkers, you can send e-mail to gnome-look about this idea on art.gnome.org :)
[07:44] <Thug-N-Me> i need to cut a bit from a mp3 files how will i do this ? what package do i need ?
[07:44] <brotherJohn1234> rendo: does it help ?
[07:44] <cwillu> _absolution_: "/join #channel name" you mean?
[07:44] <lufis> Thug-N-Me: Get Audacity
[07:44] <_absolution_> yeah
[07:44] <Bonkers> foxiness: i didnt realise all themes go into the theme manage
[07:44] <Bonkers> manager
[07:44] <cwillu> _absolution_: other than just typing it like that?
[07:44] <Bonkers> simple concept :P
[07:45] <jacopoexchange> is it  possible to set different languages for different users?
[07:45] <brotherJohn1234> jacopoexchange: yes.
[07:45] <_absolution_> I'm trying to connect to openprojects
[07:45] <rpedro> jacopoexchange: each user select 'Language Selection' at the gdm login screen
[07:46] <foxiness> Bonkers, sure its but its not clear form the desktop yes its form me long time to know about this man :)
[07:46] <rpedro> jacopoexchange: but first you need to install the necessary language packs from synaptic
[07:46] <jacopoexchange> rpedro, i'll check that out, i have the packages installed already
[07:47] <mike930> is there a program that finds orphaned libraries?
[07:47] <rpedro> mike930: deborphan package, I think...
[07:47] <Tenshi> is anyone experiencing IO related freezes in dapper lately?  (i.e. mouse freezing, speakers stopping, input freezing for split second here and there?)
[07:48] <foxiness> Bonkers, what i think now is gnome-look need to have the same method on art.gnome.org ,coz most of us use gnome-look its update more then art.gnome.org
[07:48] <mike930> thanks
[07:49] <jmoncayo> hey i have a mp3 file that is 320kbps bit rate how can i make it to 192kbps so my cell can play it?
[07:49] <rpedro> mike930: get gtkorphan for a gui
[07:49] <Geev8> brotherJohn1234: I added uid/gid so it look like this*****dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=000  0       0**** i unmounted & remounted floppy but when i try to copy file it says i dont have pamission to the drive
[07:50] <lufis> I'm having some trouble with the X GUI login (I think it's called GDM, yes?). I installed Enlightenment and ran it from the command line in the same session. A dialog asked me if it should edit the files automatically or if I should do it manually. I didn't know which to choose, so I pressed the F2 button (not the key, F2 was actually an option). I ctrl+alt+backspace'd out of X and then logged in under an Enlightenment session. Thi
[07:50] <jmoncayo> how can i make smaller the bit rate of a mp3 file?
[07:50] <lufis> jmoncayo: For the best quality, it's best to re-encode from the source, i.e., re-rip from a CD
[07:51] <foxiness> jmoncayo, wait ... many on us read this,but no answer i think
[07:51] <brotherJohn1234> Geev8: you might want the additional parameter "mask=0"
[07:51] <jmoncayo> well i only have the mp3 file
[07:51] <brotherJohn1234> Geev8: sry. umask=0
[07:51] <Thug-N-Me> lufis thanks
[07:51] <snoops> you could try using the 'NotLame Mp3 Encoder' jmoncayo
[07:52] <brotherJohn1234> Geev8: checkout the manpage for mount.
[07:52] <rpedro> jmoncayo: use soundconverter , but like lufis said it's better to rip from cd
[07:52] <foxiness> is the securtiy server have problem ? "apt-get update"
[07:52] <Geev8> brotherJohn1234: ok
[07:52] <jmoncayo> does anyone know how to do it with lame? that is what i have installed right now
[07:52] <rpedro> Thug-N-Me: producer?
[07:53] <Thug-N-Me> rpedro not really :)
[07:53] <snoops> jmoncayo NotLame Mp3 Encoder uses LAME.. :)
[07:53] <brotherJohn1234> foxiness: my german mirror works :)
[07:53] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[07:53] <mike930> rpedro thanks for the help a couple of min ago
[07:53] <ali_> anyone have a nice tutorial for configuring squid please ?
[07:53] <lufis> jmoncayo: Actually, you can do it with lame. Type lame --help into the terminal to see what options do what
[07:53] <munti> got an apache2 problem. trying to do an apache2ctl graceful and get the error "could not bind to address [::] :80 no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[07:54] <mike930> ali: navy?
[07:54] <munti> pretty new here, what could the problem be?
[07:54] <ali_> mike930 ? what is navy ?
[07:54] <foxiness> brotherJohn1234, are you try to kill me ? haha
[07:54] <jmoncayo> ??
[07:54] <amarokker> Hi, i am trying to unzip a lotta files on the gutenberg dvd- can anyone point me to a bash script that can do this recursively for the entire DVD?- i've mounted ISO file locally
[07:54] <rpedro> jmoncayo: yes you need to install lame first , then you can just drag and drop files to soundconverter and convert them to the bitrate you want
[07:55] <ali_> mike930 i need help to configure squid
[07:55] <Thug-N-Me> lufis doesnt find any playback device :(
[07:55] <lufis> Can someone tell me where the configuration files are for the window managers?
[07:55] <brotherJohn1234> amarokker: all zip's from the cd into one dir on your local drive ?
[07:55] <foxiness> brotherJohn1234, but if its better how can i change that :q
[07:55] <lufis> Thug-N-Me: You could try setting Alsa in the options if it isn't already set
[07:55] <gdb> amarokker: for file in `ls -R` ; do unzip $file ; done
[07:55] <jmoncayo> rpedro: i only have lame installed
[07:56] <ggilbert_> Does anyone know how to get the totem-xine-firefox plugin to play mp3s? Xine itself can play them.
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> lufis i cannot sellect anything there , doenst let me to
[07:56] <amarokker> brotherJohn1234: yeah- I think that
[07:56] <amarokker> 'd do
[07:56] <gdb> amarokker: for file in `ls -R` ; do unzip $file ; done
[07:56] <brotherJohn1234> foxiness: look in /etc/apt/sources.list. the URLS contrains the country.
[07:56] <Thug-N-Me> lufis im in playback - device now and it doenst list any .... no options here
[07:56] <rpedro> jmoncayo: you use lame directly if you just want to use command line, see 'man lame'
[07:56] <lufis> Thug-N-Me: Hm... is sound working for you?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> lufis it is yes
[07:57] <jmoncayo> rpedro: do you know how to do it?
[07:57] <Thug-N-Me> lufis xmms and banshee works great
[07:57] <rpedro> jmoncayo: otherwise do 'sudo apt-get install soundconverter'
[07:57] <brotherJohn1234> amarokker: find /cdrom -type f -iname *.zip | while read loop; do unzip -C $loop; done
[07:57] <lufis> Thug-N-Me: Hmm... I dunno
[07:58] <lonegeek> can i just install compiz...i want shadows and transparency...?
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> lufis even when i start audacity its says " there was an error initializin audio layer ....
[07:58] <AlexC> hEY
[07:58] <amarokker> brotherJohn1234: i gather this will unzip into the pwd?
[07:58] <Thug-N-Me> lufis ok thanks
[07:58] <brotherJohn1234> amarokker: yes
[07:58] <AlexC> I'm trying to setup Apache/PHP/MySQL on my Ubuntu install, but every time I install MySQL it says it can't connect to server at localhost
[07:59] <lufis> Thug-N-Me: Yeah, that happened to me once too. I don't know. The only thing that comes to mind is to check your sound prefs and seeing what's marked as default
[07:59] <kalosaurusrex> amaraokker: zip or tar files?
[07:59] <foxiness> brotherJohn1234, this is for you ,but me with out GE.xxxxxxx its xxxxxxx
[07:59] <Ackeubu_> Hey I have an TI PCIxx12 Intergrated FlashMedia, is that supported by dapper? And how would I mount it?
[07:59] <amarokker> brotherJohn1234: i asked about another script a few nights ago- but its a bit complex (i think) - there's this adsl-modem I am using, and it needs to be issued a command atleast twice in order to boot it-
[07:59] <WhoDaBear> Hi there folks.  Yet another newbie.  Anyone feeling helpful?  I've got a problem reading from one CD drive, and the writer will read fine but not write!  I've attempted to sort out my fstab, but still no better.  Have fstab up and disk manager up if that helps.  Cheers.  WhoDaBear (UK)
[07:59] <snoops> lonegeek compiz runs ontop of xgl.. and theoretically will be able to run on aiglx too..
[08:00] <amarokker> I can check the status using 'eaglestat'- and if it says 'operation' then I am good to go by running startadsl-
[08:00] <lonegeek> snoops: well can i just install "composite manager" ?
[08:00] <amarokker> i was wondering if this can be done by a bash script (for eg. on startup) or whether I'd need some expert to do this.
[08:00] <snoops> if you have xgl running, sure lonegeek
[08:01] <brotherJohn1234> amarokker: bash-scripts are not so complex .
[08:01] <lonegeek> snoops: so i have to have xgl in order to have composite...dang.......
[08:01] <ardchoille> Anyone have any ideas about this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1193338
[08:01] <AlexC> Guys, I take it something is wrong when I do sudo apt-get install and get this message "Couldn't find package apt-get"
[08:02] <snoops> in order to use compiz.. other window managers (besides from metacity) probably have some transparency ability, if you check'em out beforehand..
[08:02] <ardchoille> AlexC: you're correct
[08:02] <kalosaurusrex> rofl
[08:02] <amarokker> brotherJohn1234: ok- then-
[08:02] <Zambezi> Is Alternate LiveCD?
[08:02] <snoops> no Zambezi
[08:02] <AlexC> ardchoille, any ideas? lol
[08:02] <snoops> alternate text based install only
[08:02] <finalbeta> How do I move the screen to the left?
[08:02] <borntobewild> zuha
[08:02] <mormoloc> im trying to link a html & css in gedit and firefox but a get no result
[08:03] <Paladine> finalbeta, carefully, or you will hurt your back
[08:03] <ardchoille> AlexC: No, sorry, I haven't ever seen that.
[08:03] <marc> hello
[08:03] <borntobewild> Paladine:lol
[08:03] <marc> when i do lspci
[08:03] <finalbeta> Paladine, congratz, I really didn't expect that line ;)
[08:03] <marc> i see 2 network cards
[08:03] <marc> however when i do ifconfig -a
[08:03] <marc> i only see 1
[08:03] <stefg> finalbeta: call Chuck Norris to give it a roundhouse kick on the left side :-)
[08:03] <Paladine> I have dual 21" crts, so moving them is a health risk hehehe
[08:04] <WhoDaBear> Hi there folks.  Yet another newbie.  Anyone feeling helpful?  I've got a problem reading from one CD drive, and the writer will read fine but not write!  I've attempted to sort out my fstab, but still no better.  Have fstab up and disk manager up if that helps.  Cheers.  WhoDaBear (UK)
[08:04] <marc> anybody know how to add the other one ?
[08:04] <Zambezi> snoops, Oh, then I guy were wrong.
[08:04] <marc> I added it to the /etc/network/interfaces
[08:04] <finalbeta> seriously, I'm in a dualboot, the screen is shifted to the right, so I can't just use the screen buttons, need to do it thru software
[08:04] <marc> but no luck
[08:04] <The_Oatman> is there any way to reset alsamixer to whatever defaults its at after a fresh install?
[08:04] <Paladine> final, I had to use the buttons on my monitor
[08:04] <snoops> mormoloc umm.. <link rel=StyleSheet href="style.css" type="text/css"> ?
[08:04] <Paladine> then used the option in my monitor to save the settings
[08:04] <finalbeta> Paladine, dualboot, can't do that...
[08:04] <funkmaster> hey ppl :D how do i make a package out of something i just compiled?
[08:05] <Paladine> finalyes you can
[08:05] <finalbeta> Paladine, that's just sad.
[08:05] <snoops> Zambezi yeah the desktop install is the only one that's a live cd + graphical installer
[08:05] <finalbeta> changing the options every time?
[08:05] <mormoloc> snoops: Already tried <link href="style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" media="all" />
[08:05] <Paladine> finalbeta, I am dual boot, I saved the settings in my monitor and they worked in windows as well
[08:05] <Thug-N-Me> lufis any other similar packages ?
[08:05] <feihung> please help, mounting root file system wait for 3 minutes and error from /var/log/messages is ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 on irq 14
[08:05] <snoops> mormoloc, and the style.css is in the same directory as the html file?
[08:05] <Timir> Anyone know about ifconfig and iptables?
[08:06] <finalbeta> Paladine, but windows is fine. only linux is shifted, if I move it correct in linux, windows will be f*****
[08:06] <Zambezi> snoops, I prefer Live CD only so my friend won't do anything foolish.
[08:06] <mormoloc> snoops: Both files are in the directory
[08:06] <mormoloc> snoops: yes
[08:06] <kalosaurusrex> anyone good with restructuredtext?
[08:06] <Paladine> finalbeta, you didn;t read what i said.  I had the same problem, I shifted and saved when in linux and it still works fine inwindows
[08:06] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: paste your fstab file into  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:06] <funkmaster> can i use dpkg-buildpackage in ubuntu?
[08:06] <feihung> please help, mounting root file system wait for 3 minutes and error from /var/log/messages is ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 on irq 14 what option should disabled, thanks.
[08:06] <finalbeta> Paladine, ok. thnx
[08:06] <funkmaster> to create an ubuntu package?
[08:06] <WhoDaBear> Thanks green_earz.  Two secs!
[08:06] <stefg> feihung: how do you dare to ask an *ontopic* question in #ubuntu-offtopic. read /topic tht doesn't make sense ;-)
[08:06] <kazukisan> Does ubuntu have a firewall installed ??? if it does how can i open up a port ?
[08:07] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: and paste the link back here
[08:07] <snoops> and firefox isn't rendering any of the css styles mormoloc? If it's not, it's likely a problem with your syntax (invalid markup) than anything
[08:07] <Paladine> kazukisan, man iptables (or install firestarter)
[08:07] <Hakker> could someone help me out with this little problem....
[08:07] <stefg> oooopps my channels got confused
[08:08] <mormoloc> snoops: i validated the code it ok
[08:08] <docko> i am trying to install a ssl irc server and i need to create server-key.pem, server-cert.pem, client-key.pem and client-cert.pem. how can i create those files?
[08:08] <green_earz> kazukisan: or use shorewall for your firewall
[08:08] <Most_Wanted> u opent ports docko?
[08:08] <snoops> mormoloc, want to chuck them on a webserver for me to look then?
[08:09] <mormoloc> snoops: working on it
[08:09] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - good job you said that!  Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16774
[08:09] <docko> Most_Wanted, ? i don't understand...
[08:09] <seanh> I seem to have lost my audio device, anyone know how to help me debug this?
[08:09] <m1ckeyknox> is there a default password for root?
[08:09] <mormoloc> snoops: Xhtml - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16775
[08:09] <Hakker> I got my new pc in Via Epia 1,5 GHz and installed ubuntu LAMP on an unpartitioned drive. The installation went fine and now I need to reboot and all I get is: GRUB Loading Stage 1.5.
[08:09] <Most_Wanted> did you oppent your ports in your router?
[08:09] <Most_Wanted> 6667/7000 etc.
[08:09] <docko> yes
[08:09] <Most_Wanted> well then?
[08:09] <Most_Wanted> SSL is there
[08:10] <Paladine> Most_Wanted, he is trying to generate the key files for an ircd, not an irc client
[08:10] <snoops> k, and the css file mormoloc?
[08:10] <Most_Wanted> ircd yeah
[08:10] <docko> it doesn't connect via ssl, just like normal irc
[08:10] <mormoloc> snoops: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16776
[08:10] <pcfan> Hi ! how can I know if a process is idle (a process like knotes or superkaramba) ?
[08:10] <Most_Wanted> it works with me docko
[08:10] <m1ckeyknox> how can I login as root?
[08:10] <Most_Wanted> maybe your ports aren't open
[08:10] <feihung> stefg is my question about ubuntu booting problem is Out of topic in this channel
[08:10] <Most_Wanted> terminal:
[08:10] <Most_Wanted> su
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> then your user password
[08:11] <feihung> stefg is my question about ubuntu booting problem is Out of topic in this channel ?
[08:11] <docko> Most_Wanted, which server do you use?
[08:11] <mormoloc> snoops: i named the css file style.css
[08:11] <Paladine> m1ckeyknox, you have been told already, you don't login as root, you prefix the comand that requires root privs with the word sudo
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> server for what docko?
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> i once had a irc server
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> and opening the ports
[08:11] <stefg> feihung: no.... please ignore my last comment... i just got a strange behaviour of *my* chat client
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> worked
[08:11] <docko> Most_Wanted, irc server..  i'm trying to use pircd
[08:11] <Most_Wanted> so maybe they aren't open docko
[08:11] <Ro1> i need help wityh apache, when i install,then run it,i dont get any localhost "It works!" page
[08:12] <Timir> <_< Can anyone think of a reason why a router would completely ignore it's DMZ setting?
[08:12] <Most_Wanted> i should use Ptlinl
[08:12] <Most_Wanted> ptlink*
[08:12] <snoops> yeah umm mormoloc css files use { } instead of ( and )
[08:12] <Paladine> Timir, crap router
[08:12] <seanh> How do you configure a soundcard in ubuntu?
[08:12] <Paladine> seanh, also
[08:12] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: by the look of thing you have two cd drivers ?  put a cd into one of drives and from a termal use the comman " mount/media/cdrom0 "  or " mount/media/cdrom1  "
[08:12] <Paladine> seanh, alsQ
[08:12] <Paladine> seanh, alsa
[08:12] <Ro1> ?
[08:13] <Paladine> frelling keyboard
[08:13] <m1ckeyknox> Paladine: okay... I wasn't told that I don't login as root. I understand the security concept. I understand sudo and the fact that it works as "root for one command". I'm trying to use the gui to change permissions to make them rw for a new group that I'm creating
[08:13] <brotherJohn1234> Ro1: check the logfiles - /var/log/apache* - are there any errors ?
[08:13] <stefg> feihung: BTW , what kernel are you using?
[08:13] <Timir> Paladine, I sit possible that Linux may not attempt to broadcast a hosted game out to the internet? If my router truely was the cause, it would say blocked in it's logs, right?
[08:13] <Most_Wanted> !root
[08:13] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:13] <snoops> so mormoloc it'd be body { background-color:#555;font-family:Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; }
[08:13] <mormoloc> snoops: theres no visible between the two
[08:13] <Paladine> Timir, it could be your ISP hiding you behind NAT
[08:13] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: sorry its " mount /media/cdrom0 "  or " mount /media/cdrom1  "
[08:13] <mormoloc> snoops: thanks a lot:)
[08:13] <seanh> Paladine - alsa - command not found ?
[08:14] <popeye_sail> how do i get windows to start if
[08:14] <Paladine> m1ckeyknox, just use the terminal
[08:14] <WhoDaBear> green_earz.  Thanks again.  Two drives.  One reader one writer.  Both internal.  Writer will read disks fine, but not write.  Reader will show me directory contents etc. but not let me copy to desktop.  Says I don't have permission.  Will try mounting now.  WDB.
[08:14] <The_Oatman> is there any way to reset alsamixer to default volume settings?
[08:14] <snoops> not a prob mormoloc :)
[08:14] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: use the terminal ( chmod + chgrp/chown )
[08:14] <Paladine> seanh, you needto read up on alsa
[08:14] <Timir> Paladine, I'm just trying to confirm or deny if it's my router, if it's my ISP, then I can call them up and get them to turn it off or something
[08:15] <Paladine> Timir, you using a NAT network at home (192.168.0.1 etc)?
[08:15] <Paladine> cos it might just be a case of needing to setup port forwarding
[08:15] <Timir> Paladine, I did nothing with any kind of setup really, I plugged in the router to the modem, it worked *Shrug*
[08:16] <feihung> stefg my kernel is 2.6.15-23-386
[08:16] <WhoDaBear> green_earz.  Seems to mount fine auto when I stick the discs in.  Discs there on desktop.  Still want me to try mounting at the terminal?  Sorry - real Newbie!  Cheers.  WDB
[08:16] <Paladine> Timir, ok itis likely you are NAT'ed on your local network then
[08:16] <dfritsche> Paladine: Ubuntu loads the "ens_1371" module for my ensoniq board, but the mixer is all wrong for this board, and no sound.  "rmmod snd_ens1371" and then "modprobe ens_1371" straightens it all out...   Any thoughts?
[08:16] <Timir> Paladine, I turned DMZ on that machine that I'm trying to get to work
[08:16] <m1ckeyknox> Paladine: perhaps there's a faster way of doing what I'm doing... I'm trying to set the permissions on the web server stuff to be owner: root group:webdev with webdev being a group that all of the web developers  belong to... do I have to do chmod for each of the files?
[08:17] <Paladine> Timir, afaik dmz is for firewall rules not port forwarding
[08:17] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: no thats ok but what the app you are using for burning ?
[08:17] <Paladine> m1ckeyknox, never set any webserver stuff with owner root
[08:17] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: chown -R root:webdev dirname
[08:17] <m1ckeyknox> that's the way that it is coming default out of the box
[08:17] <D-Man_> having a problem with install:  have 1 HD:  #1 20gb  primary (/media/hda1 ntfs w/windows)  #2 18.5 gb primary  ext3 /media/hda2  #3 526mb primary swap
[08:17] <AlexC> Hey
[08:18] <AlexC> How do I undo LN commands?
[08:18] <stefg> feihung: Ok... because with the -25 there are a lot of difficulties reported. Can you paste your /etc/fstab and and the output of sudo fdisk -l to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?
[08:18] <D-Man_> when I run installer it won't go past partitioner saying no root on disk
[08:18] <brotherJohn1234> m1ckeyknox: man chown | man chmod | man chgrp
[08:18] <AlexC> I ln -s a folder, but I don't want it lined anymore
[08:18] <AlexC> linked*
[08:18] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - Just trying to drag files there.  That not good plan?  Assumed not working as other drive *definitely* not right!
[08:18] <Timir> Paladine, So how do I get around NAT then..? I went in and forwarded the ports and it still doesn't seem to like it..
[08:18] <Paladine> Timir,  read your router manual for info on port forwarding, I use static routing with a /29 subnet so I don't do any port forwarding
[08:18] <Timir> Paladine, I already forwarded the ports with DMZ off, not a single thing
[08:18] <Timir> still 100% blocked
[08:19] <Paladine> can you force the game to use port 80 or something like that (a port the ISP is not likely to be blocking)?
[08:19] <Ro1> when i set up apache, and it asks for my server name, which ip addres do i use? my external (24.35.235.xx) or local 192.168.x.x
[08:19] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: so what the program that you are using for burn a cd or dvd ?
[08:19] <popeye_sail> how do i rescue a non-bootable hdd?????????
[08:19] <Timir> Paladine, I hosted apache off of this mac(Sitting next to the linux box) and that was on port 8888, and that ran, people from not on my network could contact it, and I put the game on that server
[08:20] <brotherJohn1234> popeye_sail: use the ubuntu live-cd
[08:20] <WooD> any use SynCe here ?
[08:20] <Hakker> how the hell can I get past GRUB Loading Stage 1.5. with a fresh install?
[08:20] <Ro1> when i set up apache, and it asks for my server name, which ip addres do i use? my external (24.35.235.xx) or local 192.168.x.x
[08:20] <Paladine> Ro1 - Servername is the name as opposed to IP I think
[08:20] <feihung> stefg I just unplug all harddrive and plug only cdrom with ubuntu dapper live cd, the result is same it "Hangs" for 3 minutes in mounting root file system do you think this still from Harddrive problem or Bios problem thanks.
[08:20] <popeye_sail> <brotherJo here?hn1234: whats the deal?
[08:21] <AlexC> How do I reverse the action of ln -s ? I don't want it linked any more.
[08:21] <Ro1> paladine: i have a dns name for my server...but which ip should i put that dns ting under
[08:21] <D-Man_> get "no root file system is defined"  correct this from partitioner
[08:21] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - sorry - give me a sec.
[08:21] <green_earz> ok
[08:21] <dfritsche> AlexC: rm the link
[08:21] <seanh> I just rm'ed the homedir of my original sudo user, and it seems to have caused some problems. Audio device has disappeared, automount isn't working, I can't access USB devices... Anything I can do?
[08:21] <grphX77> How do I extract a .tar.gz?
[08:21] <brotherJohn1234> popeye_sail: than you can access the harddrive and do repair it.
[08:21] <snoops> double click it grphX77
[08:21] <Tenshi> is there an issue with DMA and sata hard drives ... with a fix?
[08:21] <Ro1> paladine: i have a dns name for my server...but which ip should i put that dns ting under
[08:22] <grphX77> Is there a way to do it via command line?
[08:22] <AlexC> dfritsche, how do you mean?
[08:22] <stefg> feihung: no, i think it's a bug in the ubuntu kernel. I have issues with this, too. try booting without 'quiet splash' boot-parameters, that helped in my case.
[08:22] <brotherJohn1234> grphX77: tar xvf $FILENAME
[08:22] <Paladine> Ro1, well if you are behind NAT (which your question indicates) you will need to setup port forwarding for people outside your network to access the webserver, and you will need to assign the server to your local network IP
[08:22] <AlexC> ahh -d
[08:22] <dfritsche> grphX77: tar zxvf
[08:22] <Ro1> paladineL ok, thanks
[08:22] <brotherJohn1234> grphX77: or tar xvzf $filename ( if it's compressed )
[08:22] <Timir> Paladine, So would port forwarding and DMZ conflict? And what about UPnP?
[08:23] <AlexC> dfritsche, how do I do it?
[08:23] <dfritsche> AlexC: if you did "ln -s /usr/bin/vi /tmp/vi"  where "/tmp/vi" is the link to the real vi, then just "rm /tmp/vi"
[08:23] <funkmaster> how to generate a real RSA private key and certificate manually using openssl?
[08:23] <WooD> Any use SynCe here and can get to work with it ?
[08:23] <Paladine> Timir, no port forwarding just tells your router "If you get packets on this [someport]  forward the packets to [somelocalnetworkip] 
[08:23] <Timir> Paladine, So those should remain up even with DMZ, right?
[08:23] <Paladine> yes
[08:24] <Timir> k
[08:24] <Paladine> dmz iirc is "demilitarized zone" aka, firewall rules do not apply
[08:24] <Paladine> since I have never worked with dmz or port forwarding, it is not something I have alot of knowledge on
[08:25] <Tenshi> is there a way to find out whether or not your SATA hard drive is using DMA?
[08:25] <stefg> Does hdparm do this?
[08:25] <Tenshi> noah, not on SATA drives unfortunately
[08:25] <feihung> stefg yes I did it and it hangs between these lines ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 on irq 14, hdc=noresponse (status=0x67) ,
[08:25] <Tenshi> grr ... sorry noah ... autocomplete :(
[08:26] <patrickj> hey
[08:26] <snoops> Tenshi I don't believe sata drives can use pio
[08:26] <grphX77> I guess you can't rm a whole directory?
[08:26] <patrickj> Is there a way to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06 without downloading the install cd ?
[08:26] <Paladine> grphX77, rm -R dir/
[08:26] <Jemt> patrickj: Would a net-install be ok ?
[08:26] <patrickj> grphX77: rm -rf [dirname] 
[08:27] <Tenshi> snoops, have horrible lag/freeze problems with my hard drive.  Noticed it on other machines using dapper with SATA HD's.  Trying to diagnose :(
[08:27] <patrickj> Jewt: yes, I guess
[08:27] <Paladine> grphX77, but -never- do rm -R /
[08:27] <Ackeubu_> You guys do you have an perception on how ewll dapper supports different internal SD card readers??
[08:27] <patrickj> Jewt: would I do it within my current ubuntu install?
[08:27] <grphX77> Paladine: Why not?
[08:27] <brotherJohn1234> patrickj: change /etc/apt/sources.lst to dapper . and than apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:27] <WhoDaBear> grean_earz - back.  GnomeBaker - failed.  Have pasted output to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16777  Thanks. wdb
[08:27] <patrickj> okay..
[08:27] <Paladine> grphX77, cos it willrender your system useless
[08:27] <Jemt> !tell patrickj about upgrade
[08:27] <grphX77> ...
[08:27] <snoops> Tenshi I'm using all sata drives on my ubuntu machine.. works fine.. nforce4 chipset
[08:27] <Paladine> it will delete the root filesystem
[08:28] <stefg> feihung: does this sound familiar? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6157
[08:28] <Ackeubu_> the only reason for me to boot into windows is to use my 6in1 reader to put mp3s on my SD card. it seems as a big shame having to do this.. >(
[08:28] <Jemt> !tell Jemt about upgrade
[08:28] <Tenshi> snoops, what kernel?  It's very recent.  my OS pauses all over the place during disk access, like when later 2.4 kernels had that problem
[08:28] <Paladine> Ackeubu_, vmware server
[08:28] <Ackeubu_> Paladine im sorry?
[08:28] <D-Man_> no-one can help>?
[08:29] <Paladine> Ackeubu_, install windows as a guest OS in vmware server
[08:29] <kozmic> im trying to install Ubuntu server 6.06, at 47% i get a warning about a bootrap operation that failed. Where can i see what failed, and why? (second time it happend, and the cd integrity check went OK)
[08:29] <Paladine> Ackeubu_, it comes with usbsupport
[08:29] <AlexC> Gah, How can I make it so that all files from /home/alex/websites are copied across/linked/cloned to /var/www so I can view them by going to localhost ?
[08:29] <Ackeubu_> Paladine i wouldnt need sd when i have an internal sd card reader?!
[08:29] <snoops> Tenshi umm, whatever kernel was released as an update a week or two ago
[08:30] <dfritsche> AlexC: cp -a
[08:30] <bernd> #ubuntu.de
[08:30] <Paladine> Ackeubu_, oh you have aninternal reader? I assumed it was a USB one
[08:30] <Ackeubu_> Paladine i meant usb when i using an internal sd card erader
[08:30] <Tenshi> hmm ... anyone know if there's a way to inspect/set DMA status on an SATA drive?
[08:30] <AlexC> dfritsche, any way of that being automatic?
[08:30] <Ackeubu_> Paladine no sorry
[08:30] <Timir> Paladine, Does a port need something connected on the other end to be open? Ex. a game or such?
[08:31] <Paladine> Timir, no
[08:31] <dfritsche> AlexC: guess you could make an alias in .bashrc for it.  I just type it automagically
[08:31] <stefg> feihung: maybe try 'noacpi' as a boot option
[08:31] <nnk> Hey, I'm getting this error: "mount: none already mounted or /sys busy"  Any ideas?
[08:31] <D-Man_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo   instructions followed to the letter... but partitioner won't "finish" due to no root filesystem
[08:31] <Timir> Paladine, To spite having my ports forwarded, and DMZ on, both going to the correct computer(Verified), it still says the ports are Closed
[08:31] <AlexC> dfritsche, mm, it's annoying because to save thins to var/www you hava to be root
[08:31] <AlexC> which means I cant just go File->Save
[08:31] <Blaze^^>  how can i completely remove vmware?
[08:31] <nnk> Oh, and that's when I do 'mount -a'
[08:32] <Paladine> Timir, the only thing i can think of is the ISP blocking the port
[08:32] <Paladine> thats why I suggested using a port you know isopen
[08:32] <jrattner1> Paladine, verizon?
[08:32] <snoops> Tenshi hdparm I believe
[08:32] <Blaze^^> hello, how can i completely remove vmware?
[08:32] <Tenshi> snoops, no, hdparm is pretty much incompatible with SATA drives
[08:32] <biscon> AlexC: chown -R alex:alex /var/www .. or better yet make a webdev group and give dem write access.. put your user account in that group
[08:32] <patrickj> DapperUpgrades page isnt loading :'(
[08:33] <dfritsche> AlexC: I see.  I'm too used to logging in as root.  I set a root password and log in as root, or just "su"
[08:33] <mdeboer> AlexC: why don't you make an Alias in your apache configuration?
[08:33] <Paladine> Blaze, there should be a script called uninstall.sh
[08:33] <snoops> hmm doesn't make much sense why Tenshi.. hdparm should just be getting the SMART info on the drive
[08:33] <Timir> Paladine, WHy would they suddenly swing around and block a port that they never blocked before, and have absolutely 0 reason to block?
[08:33] <AlexC> mdeboer, cos i'm new to all this =) I haev no idea what you mean by Alias
[08:33] <mdeboer> AlexC: or change your DocumentRoot
[08:33] <Paladine> timir, because we live in a strange world with net neutrality going out of the window
[08:33] <dagrump> dman- change which ever partition to a / , if you have the problem im thinking.
[08:34] <Tenshi> snoops, it's well known and documented, according to the forums I've been reading
[08:34] <mdeboer> AlexC: ok, it's easy. an Alias is to map a directory as appears in the URL to a specific directory
[08:34] <Tenshi> snoops, I shouldn't say incompatible, so much as extremely limited
[08:34] <D-Man_> dagrump: tried changing windows partition to  /
[08:34] <D-Man_> that didn't do it
[08:34] <WhoDaBear> grean_earz - back.  GnomeBaker - failed.  Have pasted output to: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16777  Thanks. wdb
[08:34] <mdeboer> AlexC: so you could make http://localhost/alex point to /home/alex/websites/
[08:34] <patrickj> yeh for some reason the dapperupgrades page wont load
[08:34] <D-Man_> do I have to change the partition reserved for ubuntu to  /   ?
[08:34] <AlexC> mdeboer, so I could map localhost to /home/alex/websiteS?
[08:34] <patrickj> but every other page on that site will
[08:35] <dagrump> r u wanting to over write ms?
[08:35] <AlexC> mdeboer, is it possible to have it as localhost instead of localhost/alex ?
[08:35] <Cooner750> If the installer dosent list any changes to make to the disks, it wont make any, correct?] 
[08:35] <mdeboer> AlexC: yes, in that case, simply change your DocumentRoot in your apache configuration
[08:35] <Timir> Paladine, So, isn't there some way to check and make sure it's nothing on my end so I can call them up and go "I -know- it's not on my end."
[08:35] <AlexC> mdeboer, Ok, that is in ... /usr/local/apache2/conf ?
[08:35] <mdeboer> AlexC: but really, all this is very OT for #ubuntu, and very well documented
[08:35] <gigio83> i have a urgent problem with samba if you a GURU please contact me
[08:36] <AlexC> mdeboer, aye, true sorry =)
[08:36] <dagrump> d-man yes the partition for *nix
[08:36] <Paladine> timir, there are only a couple of possible reasons why it isn't working. 1: You have not configured your router properly, 2: You have configured the router properly but your ISP have thrown you behind a NAT
[08:36] <Paladine> Timir, I can't help you with either one
[08:36] <mdeboer> AlexC: if you installed apache2 the normal (ubuntu/debian) way, the conf is in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[08:37] <Cooner750> need some help
[08:37] <AlexC> ok, thanks
[08:37] <Cooner750> What does "The test of the file system with type fat32 in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) found uncorrected errors." Mean?
[08:37] <Paladine> I don't use private IP spaces for my networks, I do everything on public routable IPs
[08:37] <Timir> Paladine, would one fool-proof way to find out be unplug the router entirely and plug the modem directly into the server that's hosting?
[08:37] <snoops> Tenshi tried umm "smartctl -d ata -a /dev/sda" ?
[08:37] <patrickj> can someone send me the /etc/apt/sources.list for dapper so I can do a dist upgrade?
[08:37] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: what do the command groups   out put and paste back here
[08:37] <mdeboer> AlexC: if you change anything, don't forget to reload apache2: /etc/init.d/apache2 reloa
[08:37] <mdeboer> d
[08:37] <Ackeubu_> if lspci shows this for my card reader 0000:0a:09.2 Mass storage controller: Texas Instruments: Unknown device 803b, It isnt supportedby dapper then??
[08:37] <feihung> stefg yes I did all this options noacpi noapic or nolapic
[08:38] <ubuntu_> how do i pipe dd to stdout?
[08:38] <Tenshi> snoops, no, let me look into it
[08:38] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - sorry - didn't understand that!
[08:38] <matyadabyte> hello
[08:38] <ubuntu_> the Ubuntu LiveCD says /dev/stdout is not a valid device!
[08:38] <mdeboer> ubuntu_: just don't specify a outfile
[08:38] <d2812> dumb question to which i expect to answer is yes, but im after some hope :) Having the kernel tell me it that /dev/hdd1 doesnt exist after grub has loaded pretty much means the hdd is screwed?
[08:38] <matyadabyte> how do i find the folder C; where wine installs filles please?
[08:38] <ubuntu_> mdeboer: thanks!
[08:39] <snoops> Tenshi it says smartctl didn't support sata before because of some missing library.. but that's fixed in kernel 2.6.15
[08:39] <stpere> matyadabyte, look in ~/.wine
[08:39] <Hakker> fgiuhdslkhbkjfds aaah I really want to smash my cd through the window
[08:39] <AlexC> mdeboer, Hum, after changing DocumentRoot it says I don't have permission now
[08:39] <stpere> matyadabyte, I'm not sure tho, been a long time I used wine
[08:39] <grphX77> How do I copy a whole folder?
[08:39] <AlexC> ( when I go to localhost )
[08:39] <matyadabyte> is that in the Home fiolder?
[08:40] <biscon> grphX77: like any other file
[08:40] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: from a terminal use the command : groups    to see if you are in the cdrom group. i think you are all ready in that group, just checking
[08:40] <matyadabyte> i cant fine  ~/.wine
[08:40] <mdeboer> AlexC: you will need to specify some access right. copy the <Directory /var/www>...</Directory> block, and replace /var/www with /home/alex/websites/
[08:40] <dfritsche> AlexC: you may have to open up the permissions on that directory for Apache to give access
[08:40] <grphX77> Is there like a webpage that has a bunch of basic commands?
[08:40] <aeo> hi, this should be a simple question: how do I upgrade from breezy to dapper? All of my files are backed up
[08:40] <Cooner750> anyone know what I should do if I get "The test of the file system with type fat32 in partition #1 of IDE1 master (hda) found uncorrected errors." !?
[08:40] <mmcdonnel1> Hello, i have just installed Ubuntu 6.06 LTS for the first time.  I get prompted to install 94 updates but when I click on install nothing happens?  Is this normal at the moment?  Also when I go into add remove programs, the new programs that I add, don't add?
[08:40] <mdeboer> AlexC: and make sure that your directory is world-readable and executable
[08:41] <Paladine> grphX77, linux.org
[08:41] <ninix> anyone know why my apache server is only accessible from LOCAL
[08:41] <Tenshi> snoops, well, that gave me a bunch of information, but I'm not sure how any of it is helpful, unless I'm benchmarking.  Does it say anything about dma anywhere?
[08:41] <rpedro> matyadabyte: run winecfg, and click 'autodetect' in the drives tab, then close. this should create a C: drive
[08:41] <matyadabyte> grph: http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[08:41] <matyadabyte> great
[08:41] <biscon> ninix: you're probably behind a firewall
[08:41] <Paladine> grphX77, or search google for "Introduction to the Linux Operating System" or something similar
[08:41] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - creatures adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin  Thanks.  WDB
[08:41] <MarcN> ninix: check /etc/apache2/ports.conf  --- should say just  Listen :80
[08:41] <Hakker> how the hell can I get past GRUB loading stage1.5.
[08:41] <gigio83> can help me with smb and his permission?
[08:41] <snoops> Tenshi it says it gets 'SMART' info from your hdd.. Want to paste it in pastebin?
[08:42] <Cooner750> anyone?
[08:42] <AlexC> mdeboer, still no luck
[08:42] <Hakker> because it seems I can't get past it after I rebooted from a fresh install :(
[08:42] <ninix> MarcN:  Listen 80
[08:42] <rpedro> grphX77: www.ubuntu.com is a good place to start ;)
[08:42] <mdeboer> AlexC: chmod a+rx /home/alex ; chmod a+rx /home/alex/websites
[08:42] <feihung> stefg this is my /var/log/messages http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16778
[08:43] <MarcN> ninix: yeah, that.
[08:43] <green_earz> WhoDaBear:  from the command line configure cdrecord so user can use it, no just root use.  comman " sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord  "  and answer yes to the question it gives
[08:43] <killaz> I dont get this. I just connected to another server with ssh using nautilus
[08:43] <AlexC> mdeboer, negative......
[08:43] <MarcN> ninix: try this:          telnet xx.xx.xx.xx 80  (where xx.xx.xx.xx. is your ip address, not 127.0.0.1)
[08:43] <mdeboer> AlexC: did you create a <Directory /home/alex/websites> in your apache configuration, and reload apache afterwards?
[08:43] <biscon> mdeboer: shouldn't they be writeable as well?
[08:43] <killaz> but when I do that I cant change the ownerschip or permissions...
[08:43] <AlexC> ahhhh, reload
[08:43] <AlexC> there's something you don't do everyday
[08:43] <mdeboer> biscon: why???
[08:43] <patrickj> sweep
[08:43] <killaz> but when I connect to ssh using terminal I can...
[08:44] <patrickj> updating to dapper :d
[08:44] <snoops> hey umm Tenshi if you run dmesg.. does that give you info about dma?
[08:44] <grphX77> I did a: cp src src.back and it said
[08:44] <AlexC> mdeboer, works now =)
[08:44] <grphX77> cp: omitting directory `src'
[08:44] <Paladine> biscon, if you want your server rooted, sure make them writeable ;p
[08:44] <patrickj> I only have 512mb ram, will it still give me good performance?
[08:44] <biscon> mdeboer: if the apache process running say a php interpreter needs to write to files? not everyone use databases for everything :)
[08:44] <Bladedge> !.bin
[08:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about .bin
[08:44] <MarcN> patrickj: depends on how much stuff you run ;-)
[08:44] <Bladedge> !bin
[08:44] <ninix> MarcN: refused with my domain, and accepter with the local ip
[08:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about bin
[08:44] <Tenshi> snoops, claims that DMA is on in dmesg ... or at least it's detected the capabilities
[08:45] <WhoDaBear> green-earz.  Only asked one question.  I "yes'd" it.  Try burning it again?
[08:45] <Tenshi> snoops, sorry, pastebin is taking FOREVER
[08:45] <matyadabyte> it seems to be there but i cant find it from places. hemmmm.
[08:45] <mdeboer> biscon: that implies many security issues that are not to be dealt with by doing a chmod 777
[08:45] <MarcN> ninix: is www.yourdom.com resolving to the ip you think it does?
[08:45] <ninix> yes
[08:45] <harisund> What are the fastest available ways of remote access to PCs? I am looking to remotely access the entire gnome-session ..
[08:45] <biscon> mdeboer: yeah you're right
[08:45] <snoops> Tenshi you can use paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ if you want :)
[08:45] <mdeboer> AlexC: you could of course also have done a chown -R alex /var/www
[08:45] <MarcN> harisund: vnc is nice.  turn on compression or use ssh -C in a tunnel for security
[08:46] <rpedro> harisund: System >> Preferences >> Remote Desktop
[08:46] <harisund> MarcN I on't care much for security. I want speed :)
[08:46] <dagrump> hakker: try booting of the cd., & repair or reinstall grub.
[08:46] <Tenshi> snoops, I'm using .ca ... much better now      http://pastebin.ca/75007
[08:46] <mdeboer> AlexC: if all you wanted to do it write as alex in the web document root
[08:46] <patrickj> lol I love installing an OS in x, ive spend 6 hour attempting gentoo, yet to have hardcore scsi errors
[08:46] <harisund> rpedro yes, that's VNC. I want to know how to improve it's speed
[08:46] <matyadabyte> How do i search for a folder rather than a file?
[08:46] <green_earz> Error:CannotgainSYS_RAWIOcapability.IscdrecordinstalledSUIDroot?<br>
[08:46] <green_earz> :Operationnotpermitted
[08:46] <rpedro> !freenx
[08:46] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[08:46] <Hakker> (dagrump): k will try it.... again
[08:46] <mdeboer> AlexC: but this solution opens doors to many more interesting things.
[08:46] <rpedro> harisund: ^^
[08:46] <harisund> rpedro aha .. ok I will have a look at that :) thanks
[08:46] <alexst> dear ubuntu ppl, do I need anything more than wine to get half life 1 demo workin?
[08:46] <matyadabyte> How do i search for a folder rather than a file?
[08:47] <biscon> AlexC: is your webserver for development or deployment?
[08:47] <rpedro> harisund: np ;)
[08:47] <alexst> I can't seem to find a clear answer in the forums
[08:47] <Tenshi> snoops, here's my dmesg output http://pastebin.ca/75008
[08:47] <mdeboer> matyadabyte: find -type d -name "bla"
[08:47] <matyadabyte> thanks
[08:47] <dagrump> hakker: I think I've had this same issue.
[08:47] <AlexC> biscon, just development
[08:47] <Tenshi> snoops, I'm not sure whether it's DMA or not, but it acts similar, and is ANNOYING!
[08:47] <AlexC> biscon, well it would be if I could get the MySQL server to start!!!
[08:47] <WhoDaBear> green_earz (previous mis-spell).  Am trying to burn again now.  wdb.
[08:48] <WooD> jrattner1: are you there ?
[08:48] <biscon> AlexC: then just use the chown.. will work out unless you wanna learn how to setup apache and configure it properly
[08:48] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: can you see the problem from the paste >   Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? Operation not permitted   > thats why sudo dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord
[08:48] <rpedro> alexst: you have wine installed already?
[08:48] <AlexC> biscon, ti's ok now ... it's working,
[08:48] <patrickj> hmm
[08:48] <killaz> why is the ssh of nautilus not telling me that I'm thw owner of the file on the server?
[08:48] <alexst> rpedro: yup
[08:48] <MarcN> AlexC:  so what is your mysql problem?  Check /var/lib/*.err for clues
[08:48] <biscon> AlexC: if you have installed the ubuntu mysql it should just be a matter of /etc/init.d/mysql start
[08:48] <harisund> wow rpedro.. I learn something new everyday on the forums and this channel.. I will give it a try.. I hope the fact that it uses SSH doesnt slow it down..
[08:49] <alexst> and wine is working
[08:49] <rpedro> alexst: and have you configured the wine drives with winecfg?
[08:49] <AlexC> biscon, it just times out, MarcN i'll do that now
[08:49] <xenex> how do i open a .daa file?
[08:49] <AlexC> biscon, Could not open required defaults file: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf
[08:49] <snoops> Tenshi hmm well if dmesg says that dma is enabled.. I'd start looking at possible driver issues with your chipset controller
[08:49] <WooD> are you able to paste me what you have on your file /etc/ppp/peers/synce-device ?
[08:49] <arun> ubotu: installing jre 1.6
[08:49] <alexst> in short the game starts but when I tyr to start let's say the training course it hangs
[08:49] <patrickj> big upgrade
[08:49] <Paladine> xenex cat somefile.daa ;p
[08:49] <alexst> on and in starts windowed
[08:49] <xenex> cat?
[08:50] <rpedro> alexst: after you do that, it's just a question of clicking on the hl1 executable wherever it's installed
[08:50] <feihung> I have dapper booting with live CD takes 3 minutes, no harddrive/usb attached but it show error message hdc= no response (status=0xb7), what option should I disable in bios (for detail I have paste /var/log/messages in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16778)
[08:50] <rpedro> alexst: hmmm
[08:50] <biscon> AlexC: try and search for the file debian.cnf somewhere else.. hmm last time I installed mysql it just worked.. even got started automagically
[08:50] <alexst> ok I will give it another try and is there an error log for wine?
[08:50] <AlexC> biscon, Ahhh, my entire var/lib/mysql folder has a big red icon on them
[08:50] <AlexC> I take it that's not toooooo good?
[08:51] <ninix> MarcN: no other reason ?
[08:51] <matyadabyte> Ok, Im sorry Im new but where is ../drive_cit says its there but i cant naviagte to it?
[08:51] <biscon> AlexC: a big red icon? how are we supposed to know what that means? :)
[08:51] <WhoDaBear> green_earsz - Just installed direct from the CD image - haven't installed cdrecord myself at all.  I am very Newbie - didn't understand your last.  Still confused!  wdb.
[08:51] <armands> Can any one help me ? I have error : Could not open "skype.deb"
[08:51] <armands> Archive type not supported.
[08:51] <AlexC> biscon, I don't know ! hehe, well it's big and red, has a line through .. so i'm guessing not good :p
[08:52] <Paladine> armands, it is a debian package, do dpkg -i skype.deb
[08:52] <Jemt> armands: You should install .debs this way : 'sudo dpkg -i skype.deb'
[08:52] <rpedro> alexst: you can open http://appdb.winehq.com/ and search for hl there , there's most probably an howto for that and many other apps. It's come in handy for me many times
[08:52] <brotherJohn1234> AlexC: it means " you don't have the right to open it" - what is good.
[08:52] <biscon> AlexC: in nautilus?
[08:52] <Jemt> armands: But make sure it is for Ubuntu!!
[08:52] <Tenshi> snoops, I just did a dist-upgrade and rebooted, and I actually haven't been able to reproduce it in the past 30 minutes :( .  However, this problem has been noticed on 3 different machines with 3 different mobos.  Might not have been the kernel at all
[08:52] <AlexC> biscon, yers, brotherJohn1234 I see
[08:52] <lurt0x> please.. SUPP: /s -m hell.irc-network.be
[08:52] <Jemt> armands: Ordinary Debian .debs might not work
[08:52] <grphX77> So to copy a folder(making a backup of it) you do: cp folder folder.backup
[08:52] <grphX77> ?
[08:53] <AlexC> biscon, first of all, I started to compile MySQL via source, because I didn't know of the apt-get way for it
[08:53] <brotherJohn1234> grphX77: cp -R folder folder.backup .
[08:53] <AlexC> could that be my problem? imcompatiblity of version maybe?
[08:53] <Paladine> grphX77, that should work fine yes
[08:53] <green_earz> feihung: in the bios is boot from cdrom one of the option it may only be set to boot frome hard drive, just a idear
[08:53] <dfritsche> Sound card ens1371 (SoundBlaster 16pci) won't work after a fresh install of Dapper.  Anyone heard of this?
[08:53] <Hakker> what the.... now it won't recognize my damn keyboard anymore
[08:53] <McDragon> hey guys, Macromedia Flash Player 9 has been released for windows, i heared there is a linux version, any clue guys?
[08:53] <biscon> AlexC: the user running mysql should have read and execute permissions on the files, but you shouldn't necessarily, sorry but I don't have enough experience with mysql to help you
[08:53] <brotherJohn1234> AlexC: apt-get install mysql-sserver
[08:54] <Jemt> McDragon: Did you check adobe.com ?
[08:54] <biscon> AlexC: so you're running the homecompiled one?
[08:54] <AlexC> biscon, no idea...probably a mixture of both now!
[08:54] <McDragon> Jemt: yes, no Linux version yet !
[08:54] <brotherJohn1234> McDragon: <sarcasmus>Macromedia/Adobe is known for it's linux support</sarcasmus>
[08:54] <alexst> rpedro: thanks, I'll give it a try and btw wine came with a new error msg ChoosePixel somethin . . failed, I have xgl and compiz runnig could this be a problem and onr more thing, I should use the OpenGL video option in the game right?
[08:54] <Jemt> McDragon: Ok
[08:54] <green_earz> grphX77: cp -R folder folder.backup
[08:54] <biscon> AlexC: hehe well how about removing both and installing the one in ubuntu's repositories?
[08:54] <AlexC> biscon, if I could find out how to uninstall my homebrew one, I would
[08:55] <feihung> green_earz, let me test it
[08:55] <biscon> AlexC: open synaptic and see if it records the package installed, then remove it.. go to your build dir for mysql, there is often an uninstall script
[08:55] <erick> #ubuntu-es
[08:55] <matyadabyte> Ahhh!!!  the correct answer was MAT YOU CLUTZ show hidden files:P
[08:55] <WhoDaBear> green_earz - thanks for help so far.  Gonna give up and re-heat last night's curry.  Try again tomorrow I guess.  Thanks.  wdb.
[08:55] <McDragon> lol, do we need to spam Adobe's mailbox to port Flash Player for Linux ?
[08:56] <biscon> AlexC: otherwise youll have to track down the files yourself.. problem with make install is that it just copies the files to your syswide dirs
[08:56] <rpedro> alexst: I'm not sure , but someone may be able to confirm Xgl brings those sort of problems, it's still very experimental code
[08:56] <rpedro> alexst: and yes, use OpenGL
[08:56] <green_earz> WhoDaBear: np and all the best
[08:56] <biscon> AlexC:  and it oftens default to /usr/local whereas most distroes install software in /usr.. so you need to pass configure the --prefix
[08:56] <dxdemetriou> what is the difference of OEM and Text mode installation of Dapper?
[08:56] <AlexC> biscon, I erm, removed the build dir =) I belive it installed to .... /ur/local/mysql
[08:56] <dagrump> hakker: is it new install?
[08:56] <patrickj> hmm how well does 512mb performe in DappyDrake ?
[08:56] <WhoDaBear> green-earz - cheers.  night.
[08:57] <patrickj> 512mb ram that is :P
[08:57] <Glimmerati> can any one please advise me...how can I play wma/wmv ?
[08:57] <Paladine> 512 RAM should be fine
[08:57] <biscon> AlexC: well I would delete it manually.. when you reinstall the package in synaptic it should overwrite any parts of the source edition in the same place
[08:57] <alexst> rpdero: I will boot in fail-safe terminal - X only, and I will see what happenes :)
[08:57] <AlexC> biscon, shall I remove mysql-common from synaptic?
[08:57] <Cooner750> Getting "The test of the file system with type fat32 in partition #1 of SCSI3 (0,0,0) (sda) found uncorrected errors.". Help? Anyone!?
[08:57] <Glimmerati> i have tried...w32codecs....vmware...mplayer
[08:57] <funkmaster> is there a gui for setting up lirc in ubuntu, i'm having difficulties
[08:57] <Cooner750> Can I just Continue?
[08:57] <green_earz> feihung: it may be the problem ? to check if its not the livecd use a different one http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[08:57] <MarcN> AlexC: why compile your own mysql-server?  Use the ubuntu one.
[08:58] <funkmaster> Glimmerati: vlc or mplayer
[08:58] <Paladine> or use postgres :p
[08:58] <AlexC> MarcN, I didn't know at the time there was one =)
[08:58] <biscon> AlexC: mark it for reinstallation.. do the same with everyother mysql package reported as installed
[08:58] <funkmaster> did u get the codecs from the site and but them in the folder
[08:58] <Aurora900> can someone help me with a graphics card/driver problem?
[08:58] <patrickj> is there anything like foobar 2000 for linux? lol
[08:58] <AlexC> biscon, ok, i'll do that
[08:58] <Cooner750> Hello!?
[08:58] <biscon> Paladine: amen
[08:58] <dfritsche> Glimmerati: I seem to recall seeing that in the Ubuntu doc . . .
[08:58] <xenex> Paladine: are you sure it is cat?
[08:58] <armands> I have such thing like : I write sudo dpkg -i home/armands/desktop/skype.deb but it says No such file or directory!!! But there is such file :)
[08:58] <Paladine> xenex, I was being sarcastic, you didn't really use cat did you?
[08:58] <xenex> Paladine: no
[08:59] <biscon> armands: try putting another / in front of that path
[08:59] <Paladine> that will literally just dump the contents of the file to stdout
[08:59] <Glimmerati> no...vlc is not supporting..
[08:59] <Hakker> no luck and to make things worse my keyboard doesn't work now either
[08:59] <biscon> armands: otherwise you are adressing it relatively from where you are currently situated
[08:59] <armands> huh?
[08:59] <xenex> Paladine: i have no idea what you are talking about
[08:59] <Paladine> google for .daa I am unfamilar with the file extension
[08:59] <patrickj> whats better, quanta plus or bluefish
[08:59] <xenex> Paladine: i have...nothing.
[08:59] <biscon> Paladine: tried the file command?
[08:59] <Glimmerati> but the thing is i have just installed mplayer (vmware) but not sure where it was stored...
[09:00] <Paladine> biscon?
[09:00] <Glimmerati> is there any command that can be used to run it?
[09:00] <funkmaster> u mean u installed mplayer in vmware?
[09:00] <funkmaster> locate
[09:00] <funkmaster> mplayer
[09:00] <biscon> armands: sudo dpkg -i /home/armands/desktop/skype.deb <-- try this
[09:00] <Aurora900> is there any way to find out what graphics card i have through ubuntu? device manager doesnt say and its an onboad graphics chip and i cant find the chip
[09:00] <funkmaster> mplayer pat/to/file
[09:00] <biscon> Aurora900: lspci
[09:00] <biscon> Aurora900: should report the chipset
[09:00] <armands> biscon, tryed, did not helped :(
[09:00] <Aurora900> thank you
[09:00] <dfritsche> funkmaster: (may need "updatedb" if he just installed it)
[09:01] <funkmaster> yep true
[09:01] <biscon> armands: did complain about the file missing or unsatisfied dependencies?
[09:02] <armands> biscon - cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[09:02] <armands> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:02] <Cntryboy> I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers directly from nvidia. After I type sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8762-pkg1.run : I get an error such as this in shell. ERROR: Unable to find the system utility `ld`; please make sure you have the package 'binutils'
[09:02] <Cntryboy>          installed.  If you do have binutils installed, then please check that `ld` is in your PATH.
[09:02] <green_earz> Aurora900:  go the link and then use a terminal for the command : lspci -n > http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/
[09:03] <Cntryboy> anyone know?
[09:03] <brotherJohn1234> Cntryboy: apt-get install build-essentials
[09:03] <biscon> armands: then file skype.deb doesn't exist in that directory.. isnt it because Desktop is with an uppercase D?
[09:03] <Cntryboy> okay thx
[09:03] <biscon> armands: thats how it is on a default ubuntu
[09:03] <Aurora900> green_earz: i already got it, thanks anyway though
[09:03] <green_earz> np
[09:03] <feihung> green_earz, I think the live cd is OK since I install this live cd to other computer and other computer do not have problem
[09:04] <biscon> armands: sudo dpkg -i /home/armands/Desktop/skype.deb <-- like this
[09:04] <brotherJohn1234> Cntryboy: and apt-get install kernel-source ( * dont't know the correct name *)
[09:04] <Cntryboy> brotherjohn1234: E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[09:04] <roostishaw> what is the command to list running processes?
[09:04] <biscon> armands: unix filesystems are case sensitive
[09:04] <Cntryboy> repos stuff :(
[09:04] <biscon> roostishaw: ps or top
[09:04] <dagrump> hakker: boot off cd & use f3 remaps keyboard
[09:04] <brotherJohn1234> Cntryboy: build-essential
[09:04] <lampshade> so I read the man page, but I'm still kinda confused on the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade.  What is the difference if I were to use the same sources.list for each?
[09:04] <OrgulloKmoore> I'm wanting to switch from Gnome to KDE, and I've installed KDE right now and am logged into it, but I can't figure out how to change the screen resolution. IIRC, it was system settings, peripherals, display, but I don't find that...
[09:05] <armands> biscon, now I will know that :)
[09:05] <AlexC> biscon, Ok do I install mysql-server and mysql-client?
[09:05] <green_earz> feihung: so the bios is ok and it still will not boot ???? hmmm
[09:05] <biscon> armands: yups typically source of confusion :)
[09:05] <biscon> AlexC: yeah'
[09:05] <lampshade> OrgulloKmoore: depending on how you istalled kde, it might not be there.  I once installed kde in a very bare manner and as a result I was missing basic things like setting utilities and such.  that might be your case depending on how you installed it
[09:06] <green_earz> feihung: could be the cdrom drive ?
[09:06] <AlexC> biscon, well geeeee, still no luck
[09:06] <OrgulloKmoore> lampshade I just did sudo apt-get install kde
[09:06] <WooD> any can tell me something.. why my device in UBUNTU is shown usbdev1.22 .. instead of ttyUSB0 ? and when I reconnect the PDA Pocket PC it shown usbdev1.23
[09:06] <OrgulloKmoore> lampshade how can I add the setting utilties afterward then?
[09:07] <AlexC> biscon, Thats why!
[09:07] <AlexC> /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock doesn't exist
[09:07] <AlexC> biscon,  where do I get a new sock from =)
[09:07] <xenex> Cntryboy: are you trying to get nvidia-glx to work?
[09:07] <lampshade> if it is the case that that's what happened, I'm not totally sure that it is, you should be able to find one of the packages for it in the repo like kde-somethinghere  unfortunately I can't really help more than that as I don't usually use KDE.  I could be really wrong as well, but I have a faint memory of this happening to me
[09:08] <OrgulloKmoore> ok, thanks, lampshade
[09:08] <Cntryboy> xenex: nvidia-glx doesn't work for me
[09:08] <MarcN> AlexC: check that there is no /etc/my.cnf ,but there is stuff in /etc/mysql/* -- the socket file is created when mysqld starts.
[09:08] <xenex> Cntryboy: me neither so tell me how it goes for the official drivers
[09:09] <biscon> AlexC: lol thats a socket mysql uses for some IPC mechanism
[09:09] <xenex> Cntryboy: what card do you have?
[09:09] <pvd2006> What is recommended to rezie a partition on linux?
[09:09] <pvd2006> resize
[09:09] <Cntryboy> kk
[09:09] <pvd2006> qtparted?
[09:09] <noob> Ubuntu-NL
[09:09] <mement0>  quick question: will ubuntu server support 4 cpu's and more than 4GB of ram.
[09:09] <noob> #ubuntu-nl
[09:09] <Cntryboy> xenex: whats u rproblem u having
[09:09] <Cntryboy> xenex: I lose my monitor visual, montior goes to sleep
[09:09] <rpedro> pvd2006: gparted
[09:09] <Boglizk> My mouse isn't working.. thank god i had a shortcut for the terminal.
[09:10] <Boglizk> help please?
[09:10] <AlexC> MarcN, There by a my.conf in /etc/mysql - is that correct?
[09:10] <green_earz> OrgulloKmoore: on the Kbar you need the control center option and you should find in there the option the change the screen resalution
[09:10] <pvd2006> rpedro, can I use it without having to reboot?
[09:10] <AlexC> there be*
[09:10] <xenex> Cntryboy: same
[09:10] <xenex> Cntryboy: what video card do you have?
[09:10] <OrgulloKmoore> green_earz that's the thing, I don't find that option
[09:10] <Cntryboy> fx5500
[09:10] <Cntryboy> u?
[09:10] <rpedro> pvd2006: yes, you may need to umount some partitions though, but just try it , It will warn you if you have to
[09:10] <xenex> oh
[09:11] <pvd2006> alright thanks.
[09:11] <xenex> video[nVidia Corporation NV11GL [Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go]  @ Intel Corporation 82815 815 Chipset Host Bridge and Memory Controller Hub] 
[09:11] <LeaChim> pvd2006, it's always wise to reboot if the partition you're resiving is on the same physical disk as an actve partition
[09:11] <pvd2006> LeaChim, reboot into what though?
[09:11] <roostishaw> how can i log ip's that connect to my comp through apache?
[09:11] <patrickj> how long on average does it take to replace ?
[09:11] <Paladine> xenex, I want dual quadros so I can run 8 20" LCDs and xinerama :)
[09:11] <pvd2006> do I need a live cd with gparted on it?
[09:12] <brotherJohn1234> roostishaw: /var/log/apache*
[09:12] <LeaChim> pvd2006, i mean, if you resize your partition under linux, linux may get confused if you don't reboot after resizing it
[09:12] <roostishaw> thank you
[09:12] <patrickj> sorry I meant
[09:12] <patrickj> how long does it take to upgrade :\
[09:12] <pvd2006> LeaChim, Oh ok I understand.
[09:12] <mement0> better question, can linux even address 24GB of ram?
[09:12] <snoops> Paladine haha 8.. man it'd suck trying to find windows ;)
[09:12] <feihung> green_earz, it boot OK but I have to wait 3 minutes or more to wait mounting root file system.
[09:12] <mement0> without a custom kernel build?
[09:12] <snoops> of course mement0
[09:12] <snoops> oh, might need a custom build
[09:12] <pvd2006> custom building kernel = easy
[09:13] <pvd2006> :)
[09:13] <Hakker> dagrub: ok no luck but I managed to get myself in the shell with the cd
[09:13] <feihung> green_earz, I use live cd to test it and make sure the problem is not from my settings in harddrive.
[09:13] <brotherJohn1234> patrickj: this could easy go over 45 minutes.
[09:13] <Cntryboy> xenex: have u tried the nvidia-glx-legacy drivers?
[09:13] <ccooke> mement0: yes, it can. That is: If you're installing on a machine with 24G of RAM, you choose a distro/release shaped for that.
[09:13] <green_earz> OrgulloKmoore: control center > peripherals > display
[09:13] <xenex> Cntryboy: nope, i was just about to ask you that
[09:13] <ccooke> mement0: prebuilt kernels and releases exist for architectures with a lot *more* than a mere 24G
[09:13] <Hakker> dagrub: when typing "grub" I get "probing devices...." and after a while error opening terminal: bterm
[09:13] <mement0> ccooke: will ubuntu server be up to it? or should i choose a different distro
[09:13] <CrippsFX> ooh ... somebody has 24G of RAM? nice ....
[09:13] <CrippsFX> using an x86_64 ?
[09:14] <Paladine> hehe I am a monster when it comes to leaving aps running on multiple desktops, but my RAM usage hasn't exceeded 1GB yet
[09:14] <afflux> koffer packen -> schlafen -> england... gn8
[09:14] <ccooke> mement0: are you throwing numbers around at random, or do you have a definite goal in mind?
[09:14] <CrippsFX> Paladine, what do you use to monitor your RAM usage?
[09:14] <AlexC> biscon, any more ideas? sorry to keep pestering you
[09:14] <brotherJohn1234> afflux: gute reise :)
[09:14] <patrickj> oh great
[09:14] <patrickj> lol
[09:14] <ccooke> mement0: what do you actually need to *do*?
[09:14] <patrickj> 45 mins
[09:14] <xenex> Cntryboy: AHA!
[09:14] <Paladine> cripps, top normally
[09:14] <afflux> danke brotherJohn1234 :D
[09:14] <xenex> Cntryboy:   Quadro2 MXR/EX/Go                    0x0113
[09:14] <CrippsFX> Paladine, ahh.
[09:14] <xenex> Cntryboy: legacy for me :)
[09:14] <Paladine> althoughi have the gnome hardware monitors running too
[09:15] <green_earz> feihung: it looks like its a slow cdrom reader
[09:15] <anderbubble> I finally got Ubuntu to use the correct driver (orinoco_cs) in stead of the wrong driver (hostap_cs) for my wireless card, and now everything works. Does anyone know what I should change to make is use this driver by default?
[09:15] <mement0> ccooke: im sitting next to a dell 6650 ( four 2.7ghz P4's, 24GB ram) and i want to turn it into a VMWare server box. so i need a 32 bit distro that'll support the hardware
[09:15] <Paladine> I have a 5GB swap partition that hasn't been used yet hehe
[09:15] <nnk> anyone want to recommend a good gui'd bittorrent client?
[09:15] <CrippsFX> Paladine, lol.
[09:15] <ccooke> mement0: ah ha. We're doing much the same at my plase
[09:15] <OrgulloKmoore> green_earz again, I know where it's supposed to be--but it's not there
[09:15] <Spec> mement0: so you're going to use GSX on it instead of ESX?
[09:15] <ccooke> mement0: now, are they em64t processors?
[09:16] <pabloz> hi to all
[09:16] <mement0> Spec: I'm a student, and i cant get the funds for our school lab to get ESX
[09:16] <Spec> is GSX free for students?
[09:16] <mement0> ccooke: i dont think so
[09:16] <ccooke> mement0: ESX is pretty nice. We're playing with it at my place.
[09:16] <Spec> ccooke: we use ESX at my place
[09:16] <mement0> Spec: VMWare Server is now free
[09:16] <ccooke> mement0: Right, then. Now, that's a shame since it'll slow down memory access by a fair bit.
[09:17] <Paladine> vmware server rocks
[09:17] <Spec> That = gsx?
[09:17] <Paladine> I have it running right now
[09:17] <ccooke> mement0: but a standard server kernel will support more memory than you have
[09:17] <mement0> Spec: VMWare Server = free GSX basically
[09:17] <Spec> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64=Y
[09:17] <Spec> err, sorry, HIGHMEM64G at that :p
[09:18] <OrgulloKmoore> got it
[09:18] <Paladine> I just installed win2k3 server r2 lastnight in vmware server
[09:18] <mement0> so i will have to rebuild the kernel. what about SMP?
[09:18] <Paladine> it is sweet
[09:18] <ccooke> Spec: for a while? We're just building a new DR datacentre on ESX
[09:18] <ccooke> mement0: no, you will not have to rebuild the kernel.
[09:18] <Spec> ccooke: less than a year
[09:18] <Spec> ccooke: DR? data recovery?
[09:19] <Spec> I dunno, if I had some ultra-leet hardware like that I'd build my own kernel....
[09:19] <ccooke> Spec: disaster. Got time for a quick query offchannel for any gotchas we can expect?
[09:19] <mement0> Spec/ccooke: in terms of the host OS, sould i be looking at something else? After this box i've got like 24 dell 1U's that i'm going to have to do this too as well. I was hoping to find something like kickstart/FAI
[09:19] <Spec> sure, pm me ccooke
[09:19] <Paladine> spec, I would nstall windows 3.1 on it
[09:19] <Paladine> hehe
[09:20] <OrgulloKmoore> so that next time some one has this problem you can direct them... lampshade was righ. You have to apt-get install kde-systemsettings, and then you apt-get install kdm, it should ask you what you want; kdm o gdm and you choose kdm. Then, end your session and log back in. You now have a nice control center as well as a bunch of other goodies :)
[09:20] <sivanicon> Is there a way to update all the packages on your system?
[09:20] <Spec> mement0: Mondo/Mindi would make it easy to clone all the servers, ...
[09:20] <roostishaw> i just set up apache2, but dont want to make a site... what should i do with it?
[09:20] <Spec> sivanicon: apt-get update;apt-get upgrade would update all packages that need to be updated on your system
[09:20] <ccooke> mement0: Ubuntu server should do the job admirably. There's a dearth of GUI tools for server building and kickstarting etc, but in all honesty it's not difficult to set your own system up
[09:20] <sivanicon> spec: thanks
[09:20] <ccooke> mement0: I have at two previous jobs
[09:21] <snoops> roostishaw umm.. do you know html/css?
[09:21] <OrgulloKmoore> and now it's fixed :)
[09:21] <D-Man_> was installing and got a black screen after installing...   rebooted machine and it went straight to grub>_
[09:21] <Paladine> roostishaw, you just wanna use it for putting files on the web?
[09:21] <D-Man_> was doing dualboot set up
[09:21] <scales> anyone using the latest nvidia drivers and having x crash, (logging you out), when you look at certain screensavers?
[09:21] <mement0> ccooke: i've never done anythign like this... so any pointers in the right direction would be appreciated
[09:21] <WooD> I have a little problem .. i need to make a scipt to say that all usbdev1.xx to be at ttyUSB1 any can help me ?
[09:21] <roostishaw> i dont know... but im bored...
[09:22] <Aurora900> back again... I have had no luck find a driver for my graphics card...  its an S3 Pro SavageDDR
[09:22] <shwag> how do I check what the installed version of a package, say mysql, is ?
[09:22] <ccooke> mement0: well, the key thing to remember is that it's not that hard ;-)
[09:22] <radix> What's the current preferred way to get apt working with https repositories?
[09:22] <ccooke> mement0: are you any good at shell scripting?
[09:22] <MarcN>  shwag: connect with the mysql client and it will tell you.
[09:22] <OrgulloKmoore> snoops in case you're interested...my problem the other day wasn't a NIC conflict, but that I was using up all of my bandwidth and forcing connections to close. I documented it pretty well here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1191417#post1191417
[09:22] <mement0> ccooke: i can manage
[09:22] <shwag> MarcN, Is there a generic way for all packages though?
[09:23] <feihung> green_earz, thanks I'll try again tomorrow
[09:23] <MarcN> shwag: dpkg --list|grep -i mysql
[09:23] <Cntryboy> okay back
[09:23] <snoops> OrgulloKmoore oh.. hmm thanks
[09:23] <Cntryboy> xenex: so legacy worked for u then?
[09:23] <xenex> Cntryboy: no :\
[09:23] <ccooke> mement0: that's the key thing I've found. Shell makes for very good glue in a datacentre.
[09:23] <WarOfAttrition> where can I download the deb packages manually?
[09:23] <MarcN> shwag: dpkg --list|grep ^ii | grep packagename
[09:23] <Hakker> ok no luck with the repairing but I managed to get myself in the shell with the cd
[09:23] <Hakker> when typing "grub" I get "probing devices...." and after a while error opening terminal: bterm
[09:23] <MarcN> WarOfAttrition: you should never have to, just use synaptic or apt-get
[09:24] <Aurora900> does anyone know where i can get drivers that work with Ubuntu for my S3 Pro SavageDDR graphics card?
[09:24] <ccooke> mement0: One thing Debian systems are great at is rebuilding a box from a core seed, though
[09:24] <ccooke> mement0:
[09:24] <Cntryboy> what card do u have quadro 2?
[09:24] <WarOfAttrition> MarcN, I have to
[09:24] <sambrista> WarOfAttrition: open firefox, and in the search text field change the icon to ubuntu
[09:24] <snoops> yeah man.. I digg the whole communal collaboration
[09:24] <mement0> ccooke: using FAI?
[09:24] <brotherJohn1234> WarOfAttrition: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:24] <sambrista> WarOfAttrition: then just type the name of the package
[09:25] <Paladine> snoops, fix my locale problem then ;p
[09:25] <WarOfAttrition> Thanks!
[09:25] <Cntryboy> xenex: go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia and some what down it says u can look for ur vid card and see what drivers it should use
[09:25] <monomaniacpat> Just upgraded - where in the name of christ is mplayer in the repos? I think I've got all the repos activated...
[09:25] <ccooke> mement0: that works. I've used FAI once, I've rolled my own twice. I spent the last month butchering Red Hat Satellite Server into being a shade as easy to manage as a Debian system
[09:25] <Cntryboy> xenes: legacy will work on mine, but its nto the drivers for my card so I don't wanna use differ. drivers lol
[09:25] <MarcN> WarOfAttrition: why?  Then apt-get -d somepackage
[09:26] <WarOfAttrition> MarcN: the ubuntu system is not online yet
[09:26] <MarcN> WarOfAttrition: then grab the package from /var/apt/archive/something*.deb
[09:26] <Cntryboy> xenex: legacy will work on mine, but its nto the drivers for my card so I don't wanna use differ. drivers lol
[09:27] <Cntryboy> I hate typos lol
[09:27] <Cntryboy> xenex: did you go to that site?
[09:27] <SurfnKid> whats the program to trace
[09:27] <iuwngda> can anyone elaborate on the best way to share files between XP and ubuntu on a dual boot setup?  Is having a fat32 partition my best option?
[09:27] <SurfnKid> or to route to a destinantion
[09:27] <Aurora900> does anyone know where i can get drivers that work with Ubuntu for my S3 Pro SavageDDR graphics card?
[09:27] <shwag> is it a good idea to do a  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade;  ?
[09:27] <Paladine> SurfnKid, system>administration>network tools
[09:27] <D-Man_> <-- must be invisible
[09:27] <SurfnKid> Paladine: on command line?
[09:27] <Cntryboy> iuwngda: I used nftfs
[09:27] <Paladine> SurfnKid, no in xorg
[09:28] <Cntryboy> ntfs rather
[09:28] <Paladine> SurfnKid, you need to install traceroute if wannause command line I think
[09:28] <SurfnKid> Paladine: ah thx
[09:28] <sambrista> Hi! Anyone knows how to change the date a photo was taken? I use f-spot and i love the date arrangement system but there are some photos which date is not ok
[09:28] <Spec> SurfnKid: oh
[09:28] <Spec> SurfnKid: use "mtr"
[09:28] <WooD> hi is there any other place that usbdev1.26 could be ttyUSB1 ?
[09:28] <Paladine> sambrista, you need to find something that will write EIF data
[09:28] <Paladine> EXIF
[09:28] <snoops> iuwngda you can access ntfs on the ubuntu install.. and I believe you can get an ext3 driver for windows
[09:29] <iuwngda> Cntryboy: how do you get linux to safely write to ntfs
[09:29] <Aurora900> can someone please help me
[09:29] <Paladine> imagemagick is supposed to be able to do it, but I haven't succedded yet
[09:29] <shwag> When I do  sudo apt-get upgrade;  it tells me what packages will be upgraded...but it doesnt tell me any version info about the new packages.
[09:29] <Paladine> I can read EXIF data with imagemagick, but haven't been able to write it yet
[09:29] <snoops> iuwngda should have mentioned 'access' but not write to
[09:29] <Spec> iuwngda: it's called Captive-NTFS, it's not 100% safe though
[09:29] <patrickj> I have a geforce 6600 gt oc
[09:29] <patrickj> but its on agp 4x :\
[09:30] <patrickj> how much worse is 4x agp?
[09:30] <Spec> than 16x?
[09:30] <iuwngda> snoops: ya id like to be able to read/write from both windows and linux if possible
[09:30] <Paladine> 4x worse hehehe
[09:30] <Hakker> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I hate this
[09:30] <monomaniacpat> is mplayer available for gnome dapper?
[09:30] <ompaul> iuwngda, yiou can't write to it
[09:30] <mement0> ccooke/spec: alright guys, thanks for the pointers, im going to go try this install and see how far i get.
[09:30] <Spec> iuwngda: try captive-ntfs, but it's not 100% safe, i use it with no problems </anecdote>
[09:30] <ompaul> !captive
[09:30] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[09:30] <kurzer> hi all!!!
[09:30] <MarcN> iuwngda: create a fat32 partition for shared files.  Simplest thing.
[09:30] <iuwngda> it doesnt have to be ntfs
[09:30] <iuwngda> would it be better to use fat32
[09:31] <ompaul> iuwngda, then you just need to mount it
[09:31] <Spec> iuwngda: yes
[09:31] <ccooke> mement0: Good luck
[09:31] <ompaul> !ntfs
[09:31] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:31] <patrickj> woot its on registering fonts cache :D
[09:31] <kurzer> !ntfs
[09:31] <monomaniacpat> !mplayer
[09:31] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[09:31] <SurfnKid> Spec: mtr in linux by default?
[09:31] <ompaul> iuwngda, read that comment by ubotu
[09:31] <Cntryboy> iuwngda: not sure I set my linux up to read, I heard that writing to windows from linux isn't 100 percent safe and could damage it..
[09:31] <kurzer> !mount
[09:31] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[09:32] <sysdoc> hey ya all, got a quick question, are the 686 kernels for Dapper all SMP by default? I'm looking for a non SMP 686 kernel
[09:32] <Spec> SurfnKid: not sure, try it? :)
[09:32] <Spec> SurfnKid: it's on this ubuntu computer i'm on now, and i didn't install it explicitely, it may be in the default install
[09:32] <kurzer> hi all. how can i open a *.rar file ????
[09:32] <SurfnKid> Spec: i have its awesoe
[09:33] <Hakker> how can I solve my grub not loading problem?
[09:33] <iuwngda> is the only difference between the ubuntu install cd and dvd the amount of programs that come on the dvd
[09:33] <CrippsFX> sysdoc, doesn't matter all that much. an smp kernel will run on a non smp system.
[09:33] <SurfnKid> Spec: its actually better than the dam Winxp Traceroute
[09:33] <Paladine> kurzer, double click it
[09:33] <Spec> SurfnKid: tracert?
[09:33] <lampshade> kurzer: you have to install unrar-free or unrar.  Doesn't come by default
[09:33] <Spec> SurfnKid: I like how it refreshes the routes, instead of just doing it once
[09:33] <ompaul> sysdoc, apt-cache search linux | grep image | less
[09:33] <Stormx2> Oh! Folks! I need a hand. Friend's laptop, he has partition table... hold on I'll go and try to describe it to you.
[09:33] <kurzer> lampshade:  yeah thats what i wanna know ...
[09:33] <sysdoc> CrippsFX, it does matter, I do not want the SMP kernel
[09:33] <kurzer> lampshade:  where do i get it ?
[09:33] <CrippsFX> sysdoc, may I ask why?
[09:34] <WarOfAttrition> you could also use e2fs on windows to write to ext3
[09:34] <ompaul> sysdoc,read this, run it in a terminal choose your kernel apt-cache search linux | grep image | less
[09:34] <Paladine> sysdoc, but thesmp parts of the kernel are inactive f you only have 1 cpu
[09:34] <lophyte> uh, crap..
[09:34] <lophyte> I somehow broke my notification area
[09:34] <sysdoc> Cause I want the non SMP one to compile a kernel and patch it with Suspend2, if you must know
[09:34] <CrippsFX> WarOfAttrition, yeah ... but that defeats the point of ext3 ;)
[09:34] <Paladine> so rebuild your kernel without smp configured
[09:34] <Aurora900> does anyone know where i can get drivers that work with Ubuntu for my S3 Pro SavageDDR graphics card?
[09:35] <CrippsFX> sysdoc, in which case, it doesn't matter at all. smp is an option in the kernel config.
[09:35] <WarOfAttrition> What I do is just read data from ntfs, but I never write into each other's file systems
[09:35] <MarcN> Aurora900: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?  Try google? try ubuntuforums?
[09:35] <sysdoc> Thats right, totally forgot about that
[09:35] <sysdoc> thx guys
[09:35] <CrippsFX> sysdoc, no problem.
[09:35] <Aurora900> i've tired everything... i've been searching google for an hour
[09:36] <Aurora900> what is ubuntu forums going to do that this chat wont do? lol
[09:36] <Jimmey> !grub
[09:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[09:36] <sysdoc> Aurora900, plenty
[09:36] <joshua_> Wow, I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop to replace Debian, and I am absolutely floored.
[09:36] <lampshade> kurzer:  make sure the universe repositories are enabled and then sudo apt-get install unrar-free or use the graphical installer Synaptic or Add Remove
[09:37] <joshua_> 45 seconds from boot to login screen, and another 25 seconds for me to type my password and for me to be at a desktop, no thrashing.
[09:37] <ccooke> Aurora900: approach readability?
[09:37] <joshua_> And suspend to disk worked out of the box! You have no idea how amazed I am. Good work, everybody!
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> nice, libdvdcss package not available eh
[09:37] <biscon> joshua_: yups its a pretty nice release, although I had to manually edit monitor refresh rates on the first install
[09:37] <ccooke> Aurora900: give you a chance to see if someone else already fixed that problem?
[09:37] <Hakker> ok ubotu but how to get it loading from a fresh install
[09:37] <WarOfAttrition> goddarn DRM
[09:38] <lampshade> joshua_: yeah, even my laptops media keys worked out of the box
[09:38] <Hakker> no winxp or anything else
[09:38] <kurzer> lampshade:  ok what is the universe repository ???? im absolutely noob
[09:38] <buzzed> any help turning on ssi for default apache?
[09:38] <Aurora900> ok, to make everyone happy, i'll check ubuntuforums first :P
[09:38] <iuwngda> should i make this fat32 partition before instaling ubuntu or afterwards
[09:38] <WooD> why there is not ttyUSB in UBUNTU ?
[09:39] <joshua_> let's see if I get lucky with STR.
[09:39] <shwag> where do I find the package for phpmyadmin ?
[09:39] <patrickj> my ubuntu is upgrade
[09:39] <patrickj> now do I just reboot?
[09:39] <bluefoxicy> ubotu automatix
[09:39] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, have you checked the S3 company website?
[09:39] <marty> Hola a todos
[09:39] <patrickj> ?
[09:39] <brotherJohn1234> patrickj: and keep your fingers crossed :)
[09:39] <patrickj> lol k
[09:39] <CrippsFX> shwag, using apt-get
[09:39] <bluefoxicy> ubotu: ping?
[09:39] <xenex> Cntryboy: you there?
[09:39] <WarOfAttrition> I wish someone somewhere hosted a 3rd party package for ubuntu with all the multimedia packages easy & enabled
[09:39] <lophyte> my notification area has stopped displaying icons for some reason.. any suggestions?
[09:39] <joshua_> Wow! STR worked out of the box as well.
[09:39] <marty> #ubuntu-es
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> ... ?
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> ... !
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> The bot is broken!
[09:40] <joshua_> bluefoxicy, !
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> Hi NT
[09:40] <jrib> WarOfAttrition: seveas' repos and PLF may be what you are looking for
[09:40] <biscon> WarOfAttrition: use the easyubuntu script, that almost fits your description
[09:40] <CrippsFX> bluefoxicy, no it's not. you just have to use the right syntax
[09:40] <Cntryboy> xenex: yes
[09:40] <CrippsFX> !tell bluefoxicy about syntax
[09:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about syntax
[09:40] <xenex> Cntryboy: check your pm
[09:40] <CrippsFX> lol.
[09:40] <bluefoxicy> !automatix
[09:40] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[09:40] <lophyte> !notificationarea
[09:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about notificationarea
[09:41] <aXanaXa> hey guys I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu and after my install it is hanging after "running local boot scripts"  Any suggestions?
[09:41] <lophyte> arrr
[09:41] <joshua_> bluefoxicy, have not seen you in quite a while
[09:41] <bluefoxicy> joshua_:  yeah, I retired my ipaq in favor of an ipod
[09:41] <Aurora900> CrippsFX: yes, i checked their site... which said to go to viaarena.com for integrated card drivers... which did not have any support for ubuntu
[09:41] <lampshade> kurzer: Ok, basically the easiest way to get programs is to use what is known as the repositories, or repos.  In the repos are collections of programs.  There are different repos you can add or remove  such as universe, multiverse, etc.  Anyway, for the most part, you can follow the guides here http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper  or the official wiki at wiki.ubuntu.com  Ubuntuguide is a little more noob friendly in my opinion
[09:41] <leboff> Hey, my computer freezes every time i login through remote desktop, or onto my http server, or anything network intensive... is this the fault of the network card?
[09:41] <CrippsFX> bluefoxicy, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:41] <kalosaurusrex> when I go to system > admin > login and change any setting (I want it to auto login so I can reboot my home machine) it crashes the login dialog.  how can I set this setting from the terminal? or something?
[09:42] <mikeo1> is xgl possible thorugh vnc yet?
[09:42] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, you mean they did not have any PACKAGES for ubuntu.
[09:42] <shwag> so I have  /var/www  after a default LAMP install. But how do I put files into it. Do I have to sudo everything ?
[09:42] <lampshade> XGL through VNC??  oh gosh, that'd be really slow wouldn't it
[09:42] <mikeo1> not on a gigabit network
[09:42] <kalosaurusrex> !vnc
[09:42] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[09:42] <lampshade> mikeo1: lucky
[09:42] <kalosaurusrex> !freenx
[09:42] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:43] <aXanaXa> hey guys I just did a fresh install of Ubuntu and after my install it is hanging after "running local boot scripts"  Any suggestions?
[09:43] <mikeo1> so it works through x11vnc?
[09:43] <biscon> there's also ICA for unix but thats commercial software
[09:43] <Aurora900> CrippsFX: we dont need to argue about semantics...  they didnt have anything for ubuntu... only red hat, suse, and fedora
[09:43] <lampshade> mikeo1: Oh, I don't know, I was just commenting
[09:43] <Paladine> bbiab I should go see if my son and missus are ok, haven't heard a squeak out of them all day lol
[09:43] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, you can do a google search, or look at the ubuntu wiki, for directions to make modules from source code.
[09:43] <lophyte> my notification area isn't displaying icons.. any suggestions?
[09:43] <astro_-> is there a way to change the default encoding in Terminal, so that it's not UTF-8 every time I start a new terminal window?
[09:44] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, you can easily extract any rpm and build a deb package from that, or use alien.
[09:44] <kurzer> lampshade:  ok i will look there .... just one more question is there a difference between ubuntu and dapper ?????
[09:44] <Aurora900> heh, i never sucessfully compiled anything
[09:44] <lampshade> kurzer: dapper is a version of Ubuntu
[09:44] <lampshade> kurzer: like XP is a version of windows
[09:44] <kalosaurusrex> is freenx in the repos?
[09:44] <lampshade> that kinda deal
[09:45] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, In any language, semantics is extremely important. It means the difference between one question and a completely different one.
[09:45] <kalosaurusrex> guess not
[09:45] <kurzer> lampshade: ok where can i see which version i use ?
[09:45] <Aurora900> CrippsFX, how would i go about extracting the rpm and building the deb packge?
[09:45] <Cntryboy> sysdoc: you here bro
[09:45] <sysdoc> yea
[09:45] <sysdoc> what up?
[09:45] <lampshade> kurzer: system >> About Ubuntu  and it should tell you in that first paragraph that comes up
[09:45] <ccooke> kalosaurusrex: no
[09:45] <Cntryboy> you didn't read my pm
[09:45] <Cntryboy> ?
[09:45] <Cntryboy> lol
[09:45] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, that's what help channels are for. you follow the directions. if it doesn't work, post your output to a pastebin, come here and explain the procedure you used and ask for help.
[09:46] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, give me a moment.
[09:46] <Cntryboy> not a lot trying to get this vid card working
[09:46] <ccooke> kalosaurusrex: see the wiki, at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[09:46] <mikeo1> am i safe to upgrade a server to dapper yet or will it self destruct
[09:46] <joshua_> anyway, just wanted to pop in and say thanks! to all the devs here.
[09:46] <kalosaurusrex> reading
[09:46] <kalosaurusrex> thanks
[09:46] <biscon> mikeo1: yups in a giant explosion
[09:46] <mikeo1> so i shouldnt upgrade it yet
[09:46] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200652  ... ubuntu wiki and forums are an extremely useful, and comprehensive, source of information and documentation.
[09:47] <soundray> mikeo1: dapper is released, so it's as safe as it ever will be.
[09:47] <WarOfAttrition> darn dont you hate it when hardware vendors support linux and then stop - newest drivers for modem: Red Hat 9 :-/
[09:47] <mikeo1> ok
[09:47] <kurzer> lampshade:  ok its dapper
[09:47] <soundray> mikeo1: just read about it before you upgrade:
[09:47] <soundray> !upgrade
[09:47] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[09:47] <kurzer> lampshade:  thx a lot for answering
[09:47] <Savage> I keep getting Error reading boot CD on all my disk that I try
[09:47] <Aurora900> CrippsFX, thank you
[09:47] <lampshade> kurzer: no problem
[09:48] <mikeo1> its breezy server...
[09:48] <CrippsFX> WarOfAttrition, grr. that sucks.
[09:48] <CrippsFX> Aurora900, you're welcome. :)
[09:48] <CrippsFX> Savage, what error?
[09:48] <kurzer> lampshade: btw is there a page like http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper in german ?
[09:48] <Savage> Can any one help me get ubuntu to install on my other PC
[09:48] <CrippsFX> kurzer, have you tried ubuntu.de ?
[09:49] <WarOfAttrition> And then there's Linuxant, selling drivers for lame 56k modems - might as well just by a serial modem
[09:49] <kurzer> CrippsFX: yeah but im looking for a noooooooob guide
[09:49] <brotherJohn1234> kurzer: look at http://www.ubuntuusers.de/
[09:49] <brotherJohn1234> kurzer: and #ubuntu-de
[09:49] <kurzer> im on linux / ubuntu for 5 minutes
[09:49] <biscon> WarOfAttrition: impossible to get broadband in your area?
[09:49] <kurzer> brotherJohn1234: thx
[09:49] <CrippsFX> kurzer, there ya go, brotherJohn1234 summed it up quite succinctly ;)
[09:49] <WarOfAttrition> around the area yes, not at this address
[09:50] <dagrump> hakker: boot from & b4 it starts the install type rescue. then grub-install /dev/hda. ( if one 1st hdd)
[09:50] <lophyte> can anyone help with my notification area? its broke :\
[09:50] <kurzer> thx @ all
[09:50] <patrickj> I just plugged in my second monitor and its not showing up
[09:50] <patrickj> the upgrade was succesfull
[09:50] <astro_-> anyone? is there a way to change the default encoding in Terminal, so that it's not UTF-8 every time I start a new terminal window?
[09:50] <patrickj> but how do I get dual monitors working?
[09:50] <edgardpacheco> Hello Poeple
[09:51] <WarOfAttrition> btw I'm not at a nice irc client so excuse me for not addressing replies properly
[09:51] <edgardpacheco> !FF1.5
[09:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about FF1.5
[09:51] <lens__> how do I get into drive Z: in .wine?
[09:51] <CrippsFX> astro_-, edit the "current profile"
[09:51] <CrippsFX> WarOfAttrition, bitchX?
[09:51] <Hakker> k trying
[09:51] <CrippsFX> ;)
[09:51] <patrickj> anyone here using dual monitors?
[09:52] <shwag> is there a way to view the changelog for a package from the command line?
[09:52] <mikeo1> i am
[09:52] <WarOfAttrition> am I bitchX? No I'm not
[09:52] <patrickj> mikeol: how did you get it working?
[09:52] <mikeo1> was pretty easy...
[09:52] <mikeo1> just edited the xorg
[09:52] <Savage> Can some one help me getting ubuntu working on my other pc?
[09:52] <soundray> shwag: zless /usr/share/doc/packagename/changelog.gz
[09:52] <mikeo1> works with xgl at different resolutions too
[09:52] <mikeo1> ones 1680x1050 and the other is 1280x1024
[09:52] <mikeo1> nvidia
[09:52] <rrohde> hmm.. can somene help me with adding the opacity plugin to Compiz?
[09:53] <Knorrie> !anyone
[09:53] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:53] <patrickj> mikeol: can you upload your xorg?
[09:53] <edgardpacheco> how do i install firefox1.5 on ubuntu 6??
[09:53] <mikeo1> im not booted in linux right now...
[09:53] <CrippsFX> rrohde, what guide did you use to install Compiz?
[09:53] <soundray> edgardpacheco: 'sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox'
[09:53] <mikeo1> is there a way to read linux partitions from xp
[09:53] <patrickj> damnit
[09:53] <CrippsFX> Knorrie, hm. I've never read that one before. I'll keep it in mind.
[09:53] <ccooke> edgardpacheco: ubuntu 6.06 comes with firefox 1.5
[09:53] <apokryphos> mike8901: /msg ubotu ext3
[09:53] <astro_-> CrippsFX: don't see it there..
[09:53] <Savage> I keep getting Error reading boot cd: Disk error 20 any one know why?
[09:53] <CrippsFX> astro_-, gnome-terminal?
[09:53] <kalosaurusrex> need some direction on using remote login, I need to change my home computer to auto login when I reboot it, but I the login manager keeps crashing. is there a file someplace where I can set this?
[09:54] <marty> xubuntu-es
[09:54] <rrohde> CrippsFX, some Wiki.. but it didn't have Opacity.. But I have opacity as a plug in, but the Wiki didn't cover any plugins
[09:54] <astro_-> CrippsFX: yep
[09:54] <marty> #xubuntu-es
[09:54] <santa99> hi
[09:54] <CrippsFX> astro_-,  use the "edit" menu, and "current profile"
[09:54] <santa99>  have a problem with running Kubuntu Dapper Drake 6.06: When i want to shutdown my laptop it only goes to will now halt and doesnt power off really it stops by will now halt and doesnt go on. When I run it without the splash i saw that it stops by acpi_power_off. Someone else have this problem and have solved it ?
[09:54] <Knorrie> marty: /join #xubuntu-es
[09:54] <soundray> !tell mikeo1 about ext3
[09:54] <astro_-> CrippsFX: I can change the encoding in terminal->set hcaracter encoding, but that's only temporary
[09:55] <mikeo1> ok ill get it from that then
[09:55] <CrippsFX> rrohde, to get real transparency, select the window you want to change, hold alt, and scroll up or down
[09:55] <SurfnKid> Spec: what else do ya use besides mtr that has worked for ya well
[09:55] <patrickj> would it help if I got the proper nvidia drivers?
[09:55] <kristian> someone help me with my graphic card? :/
[09:55] <mcphail> rrohde: use gconf-editor to set opacity options (if the module is loaded)
[09:55] <rrohde> CrippsFX, but that would only work with the opacity plugin right?
[09:55] <CrippsFX> astro_-, there *should* be something in there about the encoding.
[09:55] <kbrooks> so
[09:55] <soundray> patrickj: no, it would help if you read the docs in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[09:55] <Savage> I keep getting Error reading boot cd: Disk error 20 any one know why?
[09:55] <santa99> nobody have this shutdown problem ?
[09:56] <Knorrie> santa99: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTesting
[09:56] <CrippsFX> rrohde, give it a shot. if it doesn't work, then I'll look up a resource for that.
[09:56] <soundray> patrickj: pay attention to the keyword TwinView
[09:56] <santa99> ok
[09:56] <rrohde> mcphail, well.. I have the opacity plugin downloaded.. I just need help how to add that to my existing compiz :)
[09:56] <Knorrie> santa99: try to report your exact brand/model etc to the laptop testing team
[09:56] <WarOfAttrition> If I can manage to copy all the needed deb packages into the apt cache, would that be detected by apt-get with dependencies and all?
[09:56] <patrickj> alright
[09:56] <rrohde> CrippsFX, it doesnt :(
[09:56] <soundray> santa99: yes
[09:56] <mikeo1> alright i have my xorg
[09:56] <Knorrie> santa99: you can help them fix it, and so you can help many people with the same laptop
[09:56] <CrippsFX> rrohde, give me a moment.
[09:56] <rrohde> ok
[09:57] <kbrooks> the best news ever. an .deb is available for easyubuntu. we (the team) have to get it polished (the .deb touches /usr/local) and then... NO MORE COMMAND LINE NEEDED TO INSTALL EASYUBUNTU!
[09:57] <PSIplus> hi
[09:57] <neighborlee> if I boot with install CD, I see no     'boot:' prompt is this something new ??? ;)
[09:57] <TiG4> -- WOW! Does anyone know what theme this is and where I can get it?
[09:57] <TiG4> http://www.novell.com/products/desktop/img/preview_screenshots/menus-launcher.png
[09:57] <mikeo1> patrickj #flood
[09:57] <Most_Wanted> command line pwns kbrooks
[09:57] <soundray> santa99: there is a workaround. You can add a new title section to /boot/grub/menu.lst that says nothing but 'halt'. You then reboot into that option by entering sudo grub-reboot 5 (where 5 has to be replaced with the number of your grub entry).
[09:57] <neighborlee> kbrooks, good news
[09:57] <kbrooks> Most_Wanted: not for nebies to ubuntu
[09:57] <PSIplus> doesn't the linux-2.6.17 built-in atmel-wlan driver support the usb wlan adapters or am i just blind? ;-)
[09:57] <neighborlee> Most_Wanted, not for newbies
[09:57] <Most_Wanted> if u hate command line > Windows
[09:58] <patrickj> mikeol: im in
[09:58] <biscon> kbrooks: nice job dude :), I've installed all that crap by hand several times and its still boring and annoying, thanks
[09:58] <kbrooks> Most_Wanted: don't be so elitist
[09:58] <lophyte> can anyone help? my notification area applet is broke
[09:58] <neighborlee> lol echo echo
[09:58] <mcphail> rrohde: i have "compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher opacity water" in my gnome-session Startup programs
[09:58] <mexicanboy> #ubuntu-es
[09:58] <kbrooks> biscon: as you *could* probably tell, we didnt make it
[09:58] <CrippsFX> rrohde, what kind of video card do you have, nvidia, or ati?
[09:59] <mcphail> rrohde: (but i don't use the standard repos for xgl/compiz)
[09:59] <rrohde> mcphail, I have that, too... but opacity is not really working.. Because calling it in that startup proggy doesn't mean that the plugin is installed :) ... and what's water??
[09:59] <soundray> lophyte: how do you mean 'broke'?
[09:59] <rrohde> CrippsFX, GeForce 6800GT
[09:59] <soundray> lophyte: out of money?
[09:59] <lophyte> soundray, icons stopped showing up in it for some reason :P
[09:59] <biscon> kbrooks: no hehe, anyway spread the word brother ;)
[09:59] <soundray> lophyte: is it still there?
[09:59] <lophyte> I tried removing it and adding it, still no icons
[09:59] <lophyte> yeah, there's the handle part.. but no icons
[09:59] <tom7e> can anyone help me?  i use gnome and like to have both panels on the bottom.  i like the applications panel on the very bottom and the workspaces panel on top of it.  however when i restart the computer, it's always switched.  they are still on the bottom, but the applications panel is on top of the workspaces panel.  anything I can do?  this didn't happen in other distros i have used.
[10:00] <rrohde> mcphail, what repos did you get compiz from??
[10:00] <soundray> lophyte: have you tried moving it around a bit, away from other panel icons?
[10:00] <mcphail> rrohde: i believe it causes ripples around the cursor. Haven't tried it
[10:00] <CrippsFX> rrohde, gnome-window-decorator &  compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher water &
[10:00] <lophyte> soundray, yup
[10:00] <mcphail> rrohde: deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main
[10:00] <patrick_king> !java
[10:00] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:00] <mcphail> rrohde: (use other repos at your own risk)
[10:00] <CrippsFX> mcphail, are you using ati?
[10:01] <soundray> lophyte: what do you have running that you expect to show in the Notification Area?
[10:01] <lophyte> soundray, kopete
[10:01] <mcphail> CrippsFX: nvidia
[10:01] <mikeo1> wow pastebin is real slow
[10:01] <CrippsFX> mcphail, ah. I wasn't sure about that repo since I'm using an ati card/
[10:01] <mcphail> rrohde: #ubuntu-glx is the appropriate channel to ask
[10:01] <rrohde> mcphail, do you add them to the repos using synaptic?
[10:01] <CrippsFX> mikeo1, yeah ... it's been that way for weeks. try pastebin.ca
[10:01] <lophyte> soundray, the software updates manager should show in there to.. but it isn't
[10:01] <mcphail> *xgl
[10:01] <kalosaurusrex> anyone any luck install nxserver?  I keep get missing dep nxnode. but I can't find the bloody thing.
[10:02] <kalosaurusrex> !nxserver
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about nxserver
[10:02] <lophyte> I don't know what I did.. it just stopped working, lol
[10:02] <mikeo1> patrickj http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16784
[10:02] <mcphail> CrippsFX: it would probably be fine, but Xgl is still rather incomplete
[10:02] <kazukisan> I had the 8.25 ati drivers and i just updated to the 8.26 drivers, now for some reason Direct Rendering is off, and when i do fglrx info i get stuff about mesa drivers ?? anyone have any suggestions ?
[10:02] <mcphail> kalosaurusrex: i use nxserver from Seveas's repo
[10:03] <CrippsFX> mcphail, yeah, but for the most part it's usable ... unless you like gaming ;)
[10:03] <dragon> Hola a todos
[10:03] <kalosaurusrex> mcphail: hmm url for info?
[10:03] <santa99> how can i register here ?
[10:03] <jd_> hello
[10:03] <tom7e> hola dragon
[10:03] <mcphail> CrippsFX: i find it unpredictable on any fullscreen app
[10:03] <dragon> alguien sabe en donde descargar temas bonitos para UBUNTU DAPPER
[10:03] <jd_> Has anyone installed the new 6.06 LTS Ubuntu
[10:03] <dragon> HOLA TOM7E
[10:03] <kalosaurusrex> or just im me the source..if you please..
[10:03] <tom7e> donde est?
[10:03] <dragon> Hola tom7e
[10:04] <mcphail> kalosaurusrex: deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ dapper-seveas freenx
[10:04] <RobNyc> !ati
[10:04] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:04] <soundray> lophyte: strange. I haven't got any suggestions, sorry
[10:04] <kalosaurusrex> mcphail: thanks
[10:04] <tom7e> quiere temas?
[10:04] <tom7e> un momento
[10:04] <dragon> si
[10:04] <soundray> !register
[10:04] <Seveas> tom7e, english please
[10:04] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:04] <soundray> santa99: ^^
[10:04] <dragon> temas padres
[10:04] <jd_> Has anyone have boot issues with 6.06 LTS
[10:04] <mcphail> kalosaurusrex: there might be a deb-src as well if you need it
[10:04] <Seveas> dragon, english please
[10:04] <soundray> !es
[10:04] <Seveas> !es
[10:04] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:04] <CrippsFX> mcphail, yeah, it's done weird stuff for firefox a few times, but it usually recovers for me.
[10:05] <CrippsFX> kazukisan, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204910
[10:05] <lophyte> soundray, is there any other way to access programs that usually put themselves into the notifcation area?
[10:05] <tom7e> para gnome, no?  http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:05] <dragon> si pero aparte de esos no hay otros sitios
[10:05] <tom7e> http://art.gnome.org/ tambien
[10:05] <Seveas> dragon, this channel is english only. #ubuntu-es for spanish
[10:05] <soundray> lophyte: not that I know of.
[10:06] <WarOfAttrition> no boot issues for me, just installation issues
[10:06] <dragon> #ubuntu-es
[10:06] <tom7e> it's no problem seveas, just an easy question
[10:06] <shwag> I was going to install phpmyadmin, but the package wants to install a bunch of php5 dependencies. I am using LAMP which defaults to php4. Is it a good idea to let the php5 dependencies go in ?
[10:06] <rrohde> too bad that with compiz games like Nexuiz run crappy as can be :)
[10:06] <WarOfAttrition> the ubuntu system requisites states "128MB": false, not with the live cd
[10:07] <xenex> how do i upgrade my kernel to the newest one
[10:07] <Seveas> rrohde, you can disable redirection for fullscreen windows, that helps a lot
[10:07] <CrippsFX> rrohde, yeah .. well, I'm a developer, not a gamer, so it doesn't bother me one bit ;)
[10:07] <jd_> Does anyone have boot problems with 6.06 LTS? My Monitor does weird things during boot.
[10:07] <WarOfAttrition> not even 256MB RAM is enough to install on the live cd
[10:07] <rrohde> CrippsFX, I see :)
[10:07] <Seveas> xenex, apt-get upgrade
[10:07] <rrohde> Seveas, explain, please?
[10:07] <Hakker> well jd_ i'm still trying to get it booted for the first time
[10:07] <tom7e> anyone know how to get the panels to "stick" where I place them in gnome?
[10:08] <Seveas> rrohde, look in gconf-editor under /apps/compiz/general
[10:08] <antonio_> hola
[10:08] <xenex> Seveas: that didnt do anything
[10:08] <Seveas> !es
[10:08] <thun___> WarOfAttrition then why is the alternate cd only for machines with less that 192mb of ram?
[10:08] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:08] <xenex> os[casey@casey-laptop, Linux 2.6.15-25-386 i686] 
[10:08] <rrohde> Seveas, ok!
[10:08] <patrickj> hmm still didnt work unfortanatly :\
[10:08] <xenex> isnt 2.6.17 our?
[10:08] <xenex> out
[10:08] <soundray> lophyte: something you could try is to remove the applet, move its configuration file (~/.gconf/apps/panel/profiles/default/applets/notificationarea/%gconf.xml) and try reloading it.
[10:08] <Seveas> xenex, sure, but not in Dapper
[10:08] <xenex> oh
[10:08] <jd_> Hakker Mine will boot but sometimes it takes a long time and my screen always goes crazy
[10:08] <Hakker> mine won't go further then grub loading1.5.
[10:09] <lophyte> soundray, thx I'll try that
[10:09] <thun___> Is there a command I can run to see all the users on the system?
[10:09] <dagrump> hakker: so the rescue deal didnt work?
[10:09] <jd_> Is there a way to write a developer
[10:09] <kalosaurusrex> eh remind me how to install a 32 bit package on a 64 bit system..
[10:09] <soundray> thun___: yes, it's called 'w' (shows all logged-in users)
[10:10] <rrohde> ok.. soo.. even with the other repos I still don't have the opacity pluging in gconf... any hints? :)
[10:10] <antonio_> hello
[10:10] <thun___> soundray okay, but what about users not logged in?
[10:10] <soundray> thun___: cat /etc/passwd
[10:10] <Seveas> thun___, system  administration  users and groups
[10:10] <patrickj> still didnt work though.. http://pastebin.ca/75106 - my xorg.conf
[10:10] <patrickj> gonna try one more time
[10:10] <thun___> Seveas: I only have access to command line
[10:10] <antonio_> what is the chanel spanihs please?
[10:10] <BCK14> !es
[10:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:10] <Hakker> (dagrump): hda doesn't seem to exist
[10:11] <kalosaurusrex> !chroot
[10:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about chroot
[10:11] <Seveas> thun___, then do: less /etc/passwd
[10:11] <Seveas> and browse with the arrow keys
[10:11] <thun___> thank you Seveas
[10:11] <dagrump> hakker:sata 2 drive?
[10:11] <Seveas> only users with id number > 1000 are users who can login, others are system users
[10:11] <xenex> why doesnt dpkg-reconfigure-phigh xserver-xorg work?
[10:11] <Hakker> sata 2 but set to sata
[10:11] <patrickj> any ideas?
[10:12] <proog> i have a problem with gaim on ubuntu 6.06... it just crashes right after logging on to msn... i have no idea why... any ideas??
[10:12] <soundray> xenex: you left out a space?
[10:12] <xenex> where?
[10:12] <soundray> xenex: before -phigh
[10:13] <WarOfAttrition> proog, does ubuntu carry the gaim2beta3? If not, you might try that
[10:13] <Daveyboy> whats the word?
[10:13] <patrickj> still cant get the dual monitors working, dangit
[10:13] <patrickj> my xorg - http://pastebin.ca/75114
[10:13] <dagrump> hakker:
[10:14] <rrohde> now I got gset-compiz, but the plugins that are not there, are greyed out.. so, how do I add a plugin to compiz? :)  I have it in a tarball on my deskopt.. :)
[10:14] <proog> WarOfAttrition: no, gaim v1.5.1cvs... whats the easiest way to upgrade?
[10:14] <soundray> patrickj: nay wonder. You're not using the nvidia driver that supports twinview - you're using xorg's nv
[10:14] <Paladine> patrick sec I will paste mine for you
[10:14] <Hakker> (dagrump): it's a sata2 drive set to sata
[10:14] <patrickj> oh, am I
[10:14] <patrickj> I installed the nvidia driver
[10:14] <patrickj> how do I enable the one I installed in the xorg config?
[10:14] <lophyte> soundray, still nothing.. :\
[10:15] <soundray> patrickj: replace Driver "nv" with Driver "nvidia"
[10:15] <Savage> is a pentium 3 running at 1 ghz to slow for ubuntu?
[10:16] <kalosaurusrex> savage: no I run it on a p3-550
[10:16] <Seveas> Savage, no
[10:16] <kalosaurusrex> runs great :)
[10:16] <WarOfAttrition> proog, try searching the debian packages for ubuntu http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=152457&highlight=gaim2
[10:16] <soundray> Savage: no, but make sure you've got enough RAM
[10:16] <Savage> 512 mb
[10:16] <jme> Savage: if you don't have a lot of RAM, GNOME is not for you
[10:16] <WarOfAttrition> I have no idea why the default gaim is still that old 1.5 version
[10:16] <soundray> Savage: should be enough
[10:16] <jme> try Xubuntu if you've only got 128 megs
[10:17] <lophyte> *sigh*
[10:17] <lophyte> i wonder if it has anything to do with running Xgl
[10:17] <kalosaurusrex> how to install 32 bit package on 64 bit system?
[10:17] <Savage> well something keeps causing a cd boot error but the amd xp processor it boots
[10:17] <soundray> lophyte: sorry, I can imagine you're annoyed
[10:17] <Paladine> patrickj, check http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16785
[10:17] <Savage> could it be the 3dfx card?
[10:17] <soundray> lophyte: well, that's easily tested
[10:17] <lophyte> yah
[10:17] <lophyte> one sec
[10:17] <Paladine> that is my xorg running two monitors (on seperate graphics cards)
[10:17] <mikeo1> * patrickj has quit IRC (Remote closed the connection)
[10:18] <Paladine> oh, hehe thanks mike
[10:18] <mikeo1> lol
[10:18] <mikeo1> i just got back, he ever get it working?
[10:18] <Paladine> so i went through all that effort for nothing
[10:18] <proog> WarOfAttrition: thanks, i'll try that
[10:18] <Paladine> I told him to wait a sec whilst Ipasted my xorg.conf to pastebin
[10:18] <soundray> Paladine: I guess he'll be back. He was using nv rather than nvidia
[10:18] <mikeo1> how is xinerama
[10:19] <lophyte> brb
[10:19] <kazukisan> I have the fglrx 8.26 installed but direct rendering is still set to off ?
[10:19] <mikeo1> does it work with xgl
[10:19] <Paladine> oh right
[10:19] <bibe> hi all. My laptop has problems with its floppy disk: loading floppy.ko module hangs the system. How can I start a live cd telling the kernel _not_ to load that module? Something like a boot parameter "blacklist=floppy"...?
[10:19] <Paladine> did someone tell him to use nvidia-xconfig?
[10:19] <Paladine> it sets up glx for him
[10:19] <soundray> Paladine: I don't think anyone did
[10:20] <santa99> soundray: how can i register here ?
[10:20] <soundray> !register
[10:20] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:20] <kurzer> also unrar ist installiert, kann die .rar datei aber immer noch nicht ffnen
[10:20] <tom7e> does ubuntu work good with laptops as far as battery life?
[10:20] <kurzer> sorry wrong channel
[10:20] <soundray> kurzer falscher kanal
[10:20] <kurzer> i noticed
[10:20] <kurzer> ;)
[10:20] <santa99> !register
[10:20] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:21] <soundray> !tell kurzer about rar
[10:21] <kurzer> soundray: thx
[10:22] <santa99> but what is the nicksvr
[10:22] <Savage> why would my penitum 3 machine have boot error but the AMD althon xp goes on with out a problem
[10:22] <proog> WarOfAttrition: but its weird, i've used gaim1.5.1 on ubuntu 6.06 before and back then it worked normal
[10:22] <atheist-ubuntu> hi all. I use ubuntu on an apple g4 (ppc-version) and I do have problems with the sound quality. the sound's low and it has noisy background sound... can anyone help me?
[10:22] <nehir1975> hi
[10:22] <soundray> atheist-ubuntu: only God ;)
[10:22] <atheist-ubuntu> oh no
[10:22] <atheist-ubuntu> don't say that
[10:23] <cx42> hi everybody
[10:23] <atheist-ubuntu> is it possible, that ubuntu releases a ppc version which does not support apples soundcards?
[10:23] <Savage> mmmmmmmmmmm watching ubuntu install fun fun
[10:23] <soundray> atheist-ubuntu: no. If you didn't have support, you wouldn't have sound *or* noise.
[10:23] <cx42> i need help ; i search the command for start the x application of ati controller, the name is (approximatively) fglrx-control but i don't find the exact command, can you help me please ?
[10:23] <atheist-ubuntu> yeah, I mean completely support :)
[10:23] <Jowi> Savage: if you burned the cd on the amd machine maybe the cdplayer in your p3 machine can't play the disc. some cdplayers are... umm.... not so good. can be the media.
[10:24] <santa99> !register
[10:24] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:24] <WarOfAttrition> proog: well if the upgrade still doesn't work, try checking your gaim settings. I used to get errors since it was set to use proxy by default
[10:24] <tom7e> does ubuntu not have a "display settings" in the administration section?  that's kind of strange... how do you select which driver to use, and it's settings and such.
[10:24] <Boglizk> Where do i use a splashimage for the GRUBmenu?
[10:24] <soundray> atheist-ubuntu: have you played with the alsamixer settings?
[10:24] <Paladine> tom, xorg.conf
[10:24] <Paladine> or more specifically /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:25] <Savage> I have a p4 machine with windows xp im trying to get my old p3 working maybe I'll try the cd player out of the amd machine
[10:25] <stefg> atheist-ubuntu: PPC support is hard to get in an x86 world. Only thing i can tell you is that the master maybe 'PC-Speaker' instead of the rela master, and that you have to balance the PCM master against the PC-Speaker for the sound not to be distorted
[10:25] <crimsun> atheist-ubuntu: yes, not just possible but precisely the case.
[10:25] <soundray> atheist-ubuntu: there are two people to ask: nalioth is good with PPC, and crimsun... is alread talking to you ;)
[10:25] <stromham> lol
[10:25] <chzh> hello,i just installed the Dapper server
[10:25] <stromham> hey gdb !
[10:25] <crimsun> thanks dennis :)
[10:26] <Seveas> richih LoRez   branzila was DCC exploiting
[10:26] <chzh> but everytime sysrem stoped during kernel start
[10:26] <RichiH> Seveas: yah
[10:27] <crimsun> atheist-ubuntu: there was no way to fully support all known ppc sound hardware at the time of release
[10:27] <dagrump> hakker: it should probibly of been /dev/sda not /dev/hda
[10:27] <Lobster> Gute Nacht
[10:27] <m_tadeu> hi everyone
[10:27] <crimsun> atheist-ubuntu: we're working on backporting the necessary fixes, but it's fairly time-consuming so please bear with us
[10:27] <m_tadeu> has anyone tryed synce?
[10:27] <Paladine> I am suprised to see so many people in #ubuntu using mirc
[10:27] <stromham> im using gaim
[10:27] <Paladine> Ipresume the dcc exploit was mirc specific?
[10:27] <soundray> m_tadeu: yes, and I went back to paper planners ;)
[10:28] <kalosaurusrex> how to install a 32 bit deb on a 64 bit system? uigh!
[10:28] <stromham> why did so many people get kicked?
[10:28] <baiter> lol!
[10:28] <crimsun> 16:28 DCC received CTCP SEND with invalid parameters from tonegud
[10:28] <atheist-ubuntu> crimsun: no problem ... I do understand! I'm anyway thankful for every open source product. (since I'm a poor student)
[10:28] <Paladine> cos some moron is exploiting either their router or their irc client
[10:28] <alindeman> He's gone
[10:28] <aLPHa_LeaK> crimsun: me too!
[10:28] <m_tadeu> soundray: have you ever managed to connect to the device?
[10:28] <Savage> how long does it take to install ubuntu?
[10:28] <uniq> gnomefreak: matcatown too.
[10:29] <arun> i need help installing java JRE.. i tried installing version 1.5 there is some sort of font problem with Dapper.. can someone help
[10:29] <soundray> m_tadeu: yes
[10:29] <mikeo1> lol
[10:29] <stefg> !java
[10:29] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[10:29] <gnomefreak> uniq: he was k-lines
[10:29] <soundray> m_tadeu: have you found the long thread in the forums?
[10:29] <uniq> gnomefreak: i see. :)
[10:29] <soundray> m_tadeu:
[10:29] <stromham> wtf is going on?
[10:29] <santa99> santa66 anerinhof
[10:29] <m_tadeu> soundray: nop...can you give me the link?
[10:30] <soundray> !forums 30936
[10:30] <Savage> Is there ANY support for 3dfx cards for ubuntu?
[10:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about forums 30936
[10:30] <soundray> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936 m_tadeu
[10:30] <santa99> how can i log in here with my registered nick ?
[10:30] <arun> ubotu: I already installed JRE but it crashes because of some font problem
[10:30] <m_tadeu> soundray: great :) thx a lot...I'll give it a look
[10:30] <TiG4> I just installed XGL and Compiz but when I run the "thefuture" script, my menus disappear and i get an error about Failed to manage screen: 0
[10:30] <TiG4> Any ideas>
[10:30] <kalosaurusrex> !register
[10:30] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:31] <santa99> !register
[10:31] <soundray> m_tadeu: you won't thank me once you're through... ;)
[10:31] <lophyte> soundray, it seems to be compiz that's causing the problem
[10:31] <santa99> !register
[10:31] <stefg> arun: ubotu is the channel bot :-) no use to talk to him in natural language
[10:31] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:31] <oan4u> CAn i marry Ubuntu?
[10:31] <arun> stefg: oh hehe.. ok
[10:31] <stromham> omg fing god!!!
[10:31] <soundray> lophyte: yeah, it's just not mature enough.
[10:31] <stromham> so annoying
[10:31] <DBO> woooo klined!
[10:31] <lophyte> soundray, damn.. its so pretty :P
[10:31] <DBO> finally
[10:32] <arun> stefg: i m having a problem with java JRE installation can you help
[10:32] <Nogimics> anyone else getting DCC send requests?
[10:32] <Seveas> Nogimics, yeah, that's why you see the K-lines 
[10:32] <arun> stefg: I installed JRE according to instructions in ubuntuguide.org
[10:32] <Paladine> doesn't matter how many times you kline him, he will probably just keep coming back
[10:32] <lophyte> arun, what's wrong?
[10:32] <mikeo1> i am not
[10:32] <soundray> arun: ooh, mistake:
[10:32] <Jowi> Savage: I used to use a voodoo 3 a couple of years ago. it works fine. you should probably use the xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx or xserver-xorg-driver-voodoo. the libglide files is probably useful as well
[10:32] <Seveas> arun, ubuntuguide is not the best resource
[10:32] <soundray> !ubuntuguide
[10:32] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:32] <Paladine> is that a router exploit or a mirc exploit?
[10:33] <Jowi> !info xserver-xorg-driver-voodoo
[10:33] <nalioth> Amaranth: are you here?
[10:33] <stefg> not really, i jaust made ubotu spit out a (hopefully useful) link. Maybe installing msttcorefonts helps?
[10:33] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-driver-voodoo: X.Org X server -- Voodoo display driver. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[10:33] <Seveas> evenin' Keybuk
[10:33] <CokeNCode> what exploit ?
[10:33] <xerux> Anyone using teamspeak here ? Can't get the sound to work in it!
[10:33] <GigaClon> !dcc
[10:33] <CokeNCode> Paladine what exploit ?
[10:33] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[10:33] <soundray> !tell arunabout javadebs
[10:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell arunabout javadebs
[10:33] <Paladine> CokeNCode, theone that just took out about 100 people in the channel
[10:33] <gnomefreak> !dcc > CokeNCode
[10:33] <Keybuk> Seveas: one assumes they won't be registering the bots with nickserv ;)
[10:33] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: read the pm from ubotu
[10:33] <CokeNCode> yeh, i read it
[10:33] <CokeNCode> weird
[10:33] <CokeNCode> how does that work ?
[10:33] <phos-phoros> * Received a malformed DCC request from oan4u.
[10:33] <Seveas> Keybuk, channel was on +r already
[10:33] <phos-phoros> * Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[10:33] <phos-phoros> wtf?
[10:34] <numist> phos-phoros: die plese
[10:34] <CokeNCode> is it like the norton exploit that was going around a while back
[10:34] <Keybuk> Seveas: oh, weird; didn't show up in my list :-/
[10:34] <mikeo1> lol
[10:34] <CokeNCode> with keylogger()
[10:34] <gnomefreak> wtf
[10:34] <GigaClon> no
[10:34] <stromham> whats going on?
[10:34] <xerux> How can I make teamspeak work with ubuntu ?
[10:34] <Boglizk> someones exploiting people.
[10:34] <xerux> the sound
[10:34] <Seveas> stromham, we're being hit by a bunch of losers
[10:34] <CokeNCode> site ...
[10:34] <CokeNCode> this is weird
[10:34] <GigaClon> dcc should also include the alternate fix
[10:35] <CokeNCode> what is this dcc exploit ?
[10:35] <Oli> Hiho, anyone noticed aswell high cpu peaks for about 20seconds with evolution? on dapper/gnome?
[10:35] <stromham> seveas i say you should just kick everyone and let people join back
[10:35] <GigaClon> connecting to port 8001
[10:35] <GigaClon> !dcc
[10:35] <Paladine> it is actually a router exploit
[10:35] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[10:35] <Seveas> Keybuk, and fortunately they can't mass-register bots anymore - they used to do that
[10:35] <gnomefreak> CokeNCode: your pm will tell you
[10:35] <GigaClon> CokeNCode, read it
[10:35] <mikeo1> every time you post that !dcc message, your just asking people to type it
[10:36] <CokeNCode> yeh, i wanna know about the actual exploit , and how it works
[10:36] <CokeNCode> not just a summary
[10:36] <Seveas> anyone trying it will be kicked faster than you can say DCC
[10:36] <stromham> like we want you doing it
[10:36] <nalioth> mikeo1: folks who type it, get k-lined
[10:36] <mikeo1> whats k-lined
[10:36] <Boglizk> kicked from the network
[10:36] <lophyte> banned from the server
[10:36] <nalioth> banned from the network
[10:36] <CokeNCode> ok cool
[10:36] <CokeNCode> i see
[10:36] <stromham> thats good
[10:36] <mikeo1> lol
[10:36] <stromham> did you ban the ass who was doing it?
[10:37] <Boglizk> probably "they"
[10:37] <soundray> Guys, can we get back to supporting Ubuntu?
[10:37] <Boglizk> sure
[10:37] <stromham> yea
[10:37] <xerux> Anyone who has got teamspeak to work ?
[10:37] <Seveas> ahem, Keybuk!
[10:37] <xerux> havging problems with the sound here
[10:37] <lophyte> <--- up for supporting ppl
[10:37] <gnomefreak> can we remove +i?
[10:37] <Keybuk> oh, look at the nice bots all joining a different channel :p
[10:37] <Keybuk> heh
[10:37] <xerux> lophyte: help me then :S
[10:37] <Seveas> Keybuk, there was a forward already
[10:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:37] <gnomefreak> ty nalioth
[10:37] <lophyte> xerux, what's up?
[10:37] <foxiness> lophyte, and me :)
[10:37] <Keybuk> Seveas: ok, I'm going to go file some bugs on this IRC client <g>
[10:37] <xerux> lophyte: having problems with teamspeak
[10:38] <Seveas> Keybuk, hehe 
[10:38] <xerux> it  runs fine, but the suond does not work.
[10:38] <Keybuk> Seveas: it's not telling me about the set modes properly
[10:38] <bimberi> xerux: some advice i got was to be sure to kill any applications that may have grabbed the sound device (e.g. xmms, esd)
[10:38] <stromham> again?
[10:38] <xerux> bimberi: yeah, but that doesnt solve my problem completely.
[10:38] <kalosaurusrex> !freen x
[10:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about freen x
[10:38] <kalosaurusrex> !freenx
[10:38] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[10:38] <Seveas> yeah, the fuckers fo register themselves
[10:38] <gnomefreak> maybe should have kept the +i for a while
[10:38] <lophyte> xerux, I've never used teamspeak, so I'm not quite sure
[10:38] <Seveas> plan.
[10:38] <lophyte> foxiness, what's up?
[10:38] <bimberi> xerux: kk, sry that's the extent of my Teamspeak knowledge :|
[10:38] <stromham> what is +i?
[10:39] <lophyte> stromham, invite only
[10:39] <xerux> bimberi: hehe
[10:39] <gnomefreak> stromham: invite only
[10:39] <stromham> ok
[10:39] <adamant1988> can someone help me correct an error I made in synaptic?
[10:39] <Seveas> stromham, offtopic in here. Get back to supporting ubuntu please
[10:39] <xerux> bimberi: do you know what /dev I'm supposed to use tho?
[10:39] <xerux> is it really /dev/dsp ?
[10:39] <soundray> adamant1988: what did you do?
[10:39] <Boglizk> I've used TeamSpeak once on Ubuntu, it worked fine.
[10:39] <AfterDeath> why is +i on in here Seveas?
[10:39] <Boglizk> botattack
[10:39] <AfterDeath> ahhh
[10:39] <stromham> i say you kick everyone and make it password protected
[10:39] <lophyte> ::pokes foxiness::
[10:39] <adamant1988> I double enabled some repositories and it's generating this error "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2: Sub-process bzip2 returned an error code (2)"
[10:39] <nalioth> AfterDeath: to keep further troublemakers from arriving
[10:39] <AfterDeath> thats why i couldn't get in earlier
[10:40] <bimberi> xerux: when i used it it ran nicely as per the instructions here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperSummitParis/Participate
[10:40] <Boglizk> why kick everyone?
[10:40] <adamant1988> but I can't seem to find the duplicate repo...
[10:40] <foxiness> lophyte, i have trouble with firewall "firestarter" if am forget to change the device what i want to use it will not work then ? what should i do remove it or what you think
[10:40] <Seveas> adamant1988, sources.list --> pastebin
[10:40] <adamant1988> ok. How do I find my sources.list ?
[10:40] <stromham> so they cant get on, they may have more than one nick in here thats just sitting around
[10:40] <adamant1988> sorry, newb...
[10:40] <nalioth> !offtopic
[10:40] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:40] <xerux> bimberi: ok. thx
[10:40] <xerux> dunno what "esd" is but whatever :)
[10:40] <lophyte> foxiness: I've never used firestarter.. can you change the device it uses?
[10:40] !alindeman:*! Hi all!  We're experiencing an influx of bots sending DCC message with the intent to knock off users.  Please know we're doing our best to reduce the impact they're having, but that it may take a little time to setup mechanisms to achieve this.  Please bear with us, and thanks!
[10:40] <lophyte> xerux: esd = enlightenment sound daemon
[10:40] <xerux> ah
[10:41] <xerux> ok.
[10:41] <Seveas> adamant1988, it's the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:41] <adamant1988> ok, I'll find it :)
[10:41] <bimberi> Iesd
[10:41] <bimberi> !esd
[10:41] <ubotu> esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[10:41] <xerux> but is it /dev/dsp I'm supposed to use ?
[10:41] <lophyte> foxiness: I've never used firestarter... is there a way to change the device it uses?
[10:42] <lophyte> !alsa
[10:42] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:42] <alindeman> !dcc
[10:42] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[10:42] <foxiness> lophyte, did you have idea about returen the orginal user create on hoary-then-breezy-then-dapper to default setting on new one create on dappper?
[10:42] <Paladine> in firestarter you can either use the wizard to choose which eth device you want to use, or go into edit>preferences>Firewall>Network Settings
[10:42] <nalioth> HellDragon: before you do, PLEASE log off and change your access port to 8001
[10:42] <adamant1988> paste bin is taking forever...
[10:43] <adamant1988> is there an alternative?
[10:43] !alindeman:*! If you are one of the ones who is getting knocked off because of these messages, please see this page: http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068 with instructions to update your router firmware
[10:43] <lophyte> funny, I don't have 'multimedia system selector' under preferences
[10:43] <nalioth> adamant1988: there are lots of pastebins
[10:43] <Draconicus> Nautilus has decided that it's not going to work right. I've restarted it five times. Each time it starts up, locks up, and the window remains without change from then on. Since the browser opens before the desktop, the desktop is gone, too.
[10:43] <soundray> adamant1988: if you haven't invested a lot of time in your sources.list, why not create a new one with source-o-matic? :
[10:43] <adamant1988> got it
[10:44] <soundray> !easysource
[10:44] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:44] <adamant1988> here is my source.list
[10:44] <adamant1988> http://pastebin.ca/75139
[10:44] <stromham> can you guys invite codypumper
[10:44] <xerux> How do I know if it's /dev/dsp or nto ?
[10:44] <adamant1988> I'm not sure exactly what repo I doubled up on =\
[10:44] <xerux> not* even
[10:45] <Seveas> adamant1988, that one is broken, use the one from paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 and add the line for wine
[10:45] <Savage> Ok i need help now its gives me /bin/sh: can't acess tty; job control turned off
[10:45] !alindeman:*! It's also worth noting that you can connect to freenode on a port other than 6667, such as 8001, to workaround the problem.
[10:45] <adamant1988> Seveas, what?
[10:46] <stefg> adamant1988: as far as i can see, there's only the *source*-repo for universe enabled, bit not the *binary*... (corrections welcome)
[10:46] <adamant1988> ok let me check that
[10:46] <darkyoshi372> Is it possible to install every package of ubuntu and still have a perfectly good (fast and stable) system?
[10:46] <soundray> adamant1988: no, listen to Seveas
[10:47] <soundray> adamant1988: it's not that hard to understand
[10:47] <judah> darkyoshi372: the amount of packages installed does not effect the speed of the overall system.
[10:47] <soundray> stefg misread something
[10:47] <wasabi_> darkyoshi372: It's not psosible to install every package in ubuntu
[10:47] <wasabi_> =)
[10:47] <adamant1988> so basically I just need to copy another source list and add the WINE line?
[10:47] <wasabi_> Also blindly installing every package is stupid.
[10:47] <soundray> adamant1988: yes
[10:47] <darkyoshi372> wasabi_: Why not?
[10:47] <adamant1988> I'll try it then
[10:47] <wasabi_> darkyoshi372: Some are incompatible with each other.
[10:47] <darkyoshi372> oh
[10:48] <darkyoshi372> :(
[10:48] <wasabi_> darkyoshi372: Meaning you have to chose one or the other.
[10:48] <ITSa341> anyone have any luck running kai on ubuntu?
[10:48] <Savage> Ok i need help now its gives me /bin/sh: can't acess tty; job control turned off, what do i do now?
[10:48] <Paladine> darkyoshi372, cos some packages conflict with others
[10:48] <darkyoshi372> indeed
[10:48] <Draconicus> Hmm.. Yeah. Nice job fixing gtk-gnutella. It now occasionally breaks nautilus. Additionally, it sucks up all the bandwidth no matter what the settings are...
[10:48] <judah> darkyoshi372: and some may end up creating vunerabilities on the server if left unconfigured
[10:48] <darkyoshi372> Okay, thanks!
[10:48] <Savage> Ok i need help now its gives me /bin/sh: can't acess tty; job control turned off
[10:48] <darkyoshi372> (was just a matter of curiosity)
[10:48] <nnk> I just opened up my services...I have 2 sysloggers, 3 crons, and cups.  Is that normal?
[10:48] <Draconicus> Is there a better Gnutella network alternative to GTK-Gnutella?
[10:48] <soundray> Savage: don't repeat. Rephrase.
[10:49] <Savage> sorry i scrolled up and thought i didnt hit enter
[10:49] <erUSUL> Draconicus: frostwire? is java though
[10:49] <W3bbo> Hi, I've got a problem: Either I've forgotten my password or Ubuntu is rejecting it, how can I reset it?
[10:50] <adamant1988> where can I find a pristine and correct source.list to use again?
[10:50] <Draconicus> erUSUL: How 'bout something light?
[10:50] <Seveas> adamant1988, paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d6666
[10:50] <wasabi_> adamant1988: Just make one?
[10:50] <xerux> holy crap
[10:50] <xerux> I've been running VLC in the backgruond all day long.. no fucking wonder that teamspeak did not work!
[10:50] <patrick_king> !frostwire
[10:50] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:50] <nnk> !vlc
[10:50] <ubotu> Audio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs
[10:50] <lophyte> fun.. I broke my sound and I have no idea how.. *sigh*
[10:50] <erUSUL> Draconicus: i do not know anything light. my p2p are mldonkey and bittorrent no gnutella
[10:51] <Seveas> xerux, please keed the language g-rated
[10:51] <xerux> sorry
[10:51] <nnk> !codecs
[10:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:51] <patrick_king> !frostwire
[10:51] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:51] <W3bbo> So, anyone know how to reset my password?
[10:51] <soundray> lophyte: perhaps you turned the volume down?
[10:51] <lophyte> soundray: nope, just checked that :P
[10:51] <adamant1988> and this one will work even though it's for dapper 6.04?
[10:52] <soundray> W3bbo: boot in recovery mode and run passwd username
[10:52] <W3bbo> How do I boot in recovery mode?
[10:52] <kristian> someone help me with my graphic card? :)
[10:52] <cr3> has anyone transfered files by irda? I'm using ircp and I never seem to receive anything
[10:52] <stefg> W3bbo: an otion would to boot in single mode and passwd (username)
[10:52] <W3bbo> yeah, just found it on the GRUB menu
[10:52] <soundray> W3bbo: it's an option in the grub menu that you see early during boot.
[10:52] <ITSa341> can someone help me get kai to connect under dapper? I get "Network Reachable : not yet"
[10:53] <rittyan> Guys where can I fix sound card indecies? I mean, I want my SB be card-0, and VIA - card-1...
[10:54] <rittyan> and how can I restart all alsa-modules then? I didn't found anything in /etc/init.d/
[10:55] <lophyte> !sound
[10:55] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[10:55] <lophyte> >_<
[10:55] <bibe> rittyan : you can take a look at udev persistent rules
[10:55] <Savage> is there such thing as 3dfx drivers for linux?
[10:55] <erUSUL> rittyan: in /etc/asound.conf afaik in the alsa website there is a how to
[10:56] <Nogimics> Savage got an old voodoo lol?
[10:56] <soundray> Savage: yes, they are called tdfx
[10:57] <rittyan> erUSUL: as I remember from holy distro gentoo there was something about modules aliases and etc... :| k, i'll google deeply
[10:57] <ITSa341> I still have an old voodoo 3000 laying around here also
[10:57] <Savage> Nogimics: Voodoo 5500 :D
[10:57] <Nogimics> I loved those cards :D
[10:58] <Nogimics> They were robbed when they got forced to stop
[10:58] <Savage> I'm gonna need drivers for it in ubuntu now lol
[10:58] <ITSa341> I just wish I could find linux drivers for my "Photon Torpedo" card. cirrus based chip with all kinds of inputs and outputs and even a cable decoder on it
[10:59] <soundray> Savage:
[10:59] <soundray> !info xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx
[10:59] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-driver-tdfx: X.Org X server -- tdfx display driver. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.1.3-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 32 kB, installed size 128 kB
[10:59] <adamant1988> soundray, you were wrong... that sources list is not working
[11:00] <adamant1988> in fact, I can't even get synaptic to start now, thanks.
[11:00] <soundray> adamant1988: thanks for letting me know.
[11:00] <adamant1988> so how do I fix this now?
[11:00] <lophyte> anyone know what binary system->preferences->multimedia system selector links to?
[11:01] <GitarooMan> hey all
[11:01] <ITSa341> later everyone  I have to go try to figure out kai under dapper
[11:01] <CokeNCode> exit
[11:02] <GitarooMan> anyone want to help out a noob with tarballs?
[11:02] <jme> GitarooMan: what do you need?
[11:02] <soundray> !tar
[11:02] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[11:03] <jme> file-roller is a piece of junk - I really prefer tar
[11:03] <Savage> What do I do after it says uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel and it just stays there, what do I type?
[11:03] <GitarooMan> well i know what they do and all that, but i'm having trouble with the install
[11:03] <ablyss> the easiest way i find to open archived files is with konqueror "extract here" option
[11:03] <eXistenZ> what is the package for a CVS server?
[11:04] <adamant1988> I fixred it soundray turns out I had a backup source.list
[11:04] <jme> GitarooMan: trying to open a .tar.gz file?
[11:04] <GitarooMan> yes
[11:04] <GitarooMan> well i can open it just fine
[11:04] <GitarooMan> but i'm not sure what to do after that
[11:05] <lophyte> would someone mind telling me what program gets launched when you go to system->preferences->multimedia systems selector
[11:05] <jme> 'tar -xvf myfile.tar.gz' will untar it and unzip it
[11:05] <biscon> GitarooMan: what does it contain?
[11:05] <GitarooMan> the program nicotine
[11:05] <Gorlist> Hi - whats the best TV card software to use?
[11:05] <jme> this is a package you got from Sourceforge or something?
[11:05] <Lars_G> Ok, Hi all
[11:05] <Lars_G> I think I am going insane........
[11:05] <jme> you'll need to compile it, probably using a makefile to automatically compile
[11:05] <GitarooMan> i got it from the official nicotine site, it's a port of soulseek
[11:05] <biscon> GitarooMan: so you're asking about help compiling a package?
[11:05] <GitarooMan> that sounds about right
[11:05] <jme> go into the directory and look for a file like INSTALL
[11:06] <biscon> GitarooMan: there's almost always a README or BUILD file in these packages
[11:06] <Lars_G> Sometimes I start my machine, and the built in card in the mobo is alsa hw:0 and my SB Live is hw:1 and kmixer shows a FULL mixer with lots of options.
[11:06] <GitarooMan> yeah i know... i'm reading the install file, but i'm a huge noob and thus pretty confused
[11:06] <biscon> GitarooMan: which always almost tells you to do ./configure & make & sudo make install
[11:06] <Lars_G> And sometimes, I boot, my Sb Live is hw:0 the built in card is hw:1 and kmix has only a very few channels for both.
[11:06] <jme> yeah, like biscon says
[11:06] <Lars_G> Any tips please?
[11:06] <Lars_G> This of course makes any .asoundrc useless since the cards happily swap
[11:07] <biscon> GitarooMan: the problem is if you miss a dependency.. then you'll have to either install that using apt-get or downloading and compiling the source tarball for that as well
[11:07] <nalioth> biscon: we recommend using 'checkinstall' to ubuntu users
[11:07] <nalioth> biscon: instead of "make install"
[11:07] <biscon> GitarooMan: then you shouldn't be compiling software :)
[11:07] <tyler> is ne 1 out there
[11:07] <nalioth> biscon: using checkinstall keeps you from nuking your system with bad code (if the writer didnt include a 'make uninstall')
[11:07] <jme> oh, is there a page somewhere about checkisntall, biscon?
[11:07] <GitarooMan> yeah i know i shouldn't, but i'm trying to learn
[11:07] <nalioth> tyler: aol is that way >
[11:07] <biscon> nalioth: you're absolutely right :)
[11:08] <nalioth> !checkinstall
[11:08] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:08] <jme> well, you've got to learn somewhere, GitarooMan
[11:08] <soundray> lophyte: I think it has something to do with gstreamer - still searching...
[11:08] <tyler> what do u mean
[11:08] <lophyte> soundray: got it..
[11:08] <lophyte> gstreamer-properties
[11:08] <lophyte> :)
[11:08] <jme> oh, that's a pretty snazzy idea
[11:08] <nalioth> tyler: may we help you?
[11:08] <biscon> GitarooMan: any if you have unpacked the package try cd'ing into the directory and type ./configure
[11:08] <tyler> i guess
[11:08] <biscon> anyway even
[11:08] <GitarooMan> yeah. i'm doing that total mmersion thing.
[11:08] <nalioth> !compile > GitarooMan
[11:08] <soundray> lophyte: interesting. I've got it, but it's not in the menus...
[11:09] <lophyte> soundray: yeah, same with me
[11:09] <lophyte> soundray: I booted into the live CD to get it
[11:09] <tyler> i need help installing Quik time for my ubuntu
[11:09] <biscon> GitarooMan: but I bet you'll soon need a dependency.. the one in the repositories will be 0.0.1 version to low.. you'll have to fetch that sourcepackage.. compile.. but it will need another package etc
[11:10] <soundray> lophyte: well done
[11:10] <tyler> i need help installing Quik time for my computer
[11:10] <lophyte> !alsa
[11:10] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:10] <biscon> GitarooMan: therefore you should use repository or 3 part .debs instead of compiling from source if you're all new to compilers, libraries and linking
[11:10] <tyler> i need help really bad
[11:10] <soundray> tyler: what operating system?
[11:10] <jme> tyler: stop spamming
[11:11] <GitarooMan> ok, i'll work on that
[11:11] <tyler> ubuntu
[11:11] <GitarooMan> i apologize if helping me out was too much of a chore
[11:11] <nu2ubuntu> how do i handle a .rpm file?
[11:11] <jme> there's no native port of QT for linux, far as I know
[11:11] <numist> alien
[11:11] <tyler> what do you mean stop spamming?
[11:11] <soundray> !tell tyler about quicktime
[11:11] <biscon> GitarooMan: not at all, just trying to spare you from a lot of frustration :)
[11:11] <nalioth> !restricted > tyler
[11:11] <jme> you might be able to get another media player to handle the files that QT plays, though
[11:11] <Axces> jme: I'm pretty sure there is a native port of Qt for linux
[11:11] <Gorlist> which is better - XawTV    or     TVtime?
[11:11] <nalioth> tyler: check your private messages
[11:11] <Axces> oh, QuickTime
[11:12] <Axces> gotta be careful with acronyms these days..
[11:12] <jme> hehe, yeah
[11:12] <rrohde> does one here know the difference between Compiz and Compiz-Vanilla??
[11:12] <tyler> what is that supposed to mean "chek your private messages
[11:12] <jme> actually, it looks like there's a sourceforge project for a port
[11:12] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: first, check whether you really need to install from rpm. There are Ubuntu packages for most common free software.
[11:12] <Lars_G> lophyte: Was that for me?
[11:12] <Axces> the company I work for uses Qt for our cross platform native clients, so I tend to think of Qt before QuickTime when I see QT
[11:13] <tyler> no it was for noliath
[11:13] <erUSUL> rrohde: vanilla usually means the one without 3 party patches like vanilla kernel sources from kernel.org
[11:13] <Lars_G> tyler: Have any insight on my issue please?
[11:13] <tyler> none what so ever
[11:13] <mbirkis> my video is choppy... i have dapper installed, running fluxbox with 650mhz P3, 374mb ram, how can i fix it?
[11:13] <nu2ubuntu> soundray: I am trying to install the kerbos authentication for mit
[11:13] <Lars_G> thanks anyhow tyler
[11:14] <tyler> what do you mean
[11:14] <wasabi_> MIT kerberos is in Ubuntu.
[11:14] <biscon> mbirkis: you can start by providing a more detailed description of your problem :)
[11:14] <Lars_G> I'm trying to piece out init.d scripts to straighten this up by hand
[11:14] <wasabi_> All of it.
[11:14] <nu2ubuntu> oh
[11:14] <wasabi_> It's in apt.
[11:14] <nu2ubuntu> thanks
[11:14] <nu2ubuntu> lol
[11:14] <GigaClon> how do I add something to path?
[11:14] <soundray> Lars_G: perhaps you should just disable the onboard sound in the BIOS setup.
[11:14] <Savage> What do I do after it says Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel
[11:14] <Lars_G> soundray: I am using it for a few specifical tasks right now, if I find no other avenue I'll try it.
[11:14] <erUSUL> GigaClon: something? a dir you mean?
[11:14] <mbirkis> biscon, the video is choppy, sound  and image is lagging when i try to watch video
[11:14] <GigaClon> yeah
[11:14] <GigaClon> im using cxxtest
[11:15] <Axces> setevn
[11:15] <Axces> woops
[11:15] <jme> not in bash
[11:15] <biscon> mbirkis: what video hardware you got and what driver are you using?
[11:15] <Savage> !help
[11:15] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[11:15] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: MIT kerberos packages in ubuntu are all called krb5-something.
[11:15] <Axces> well, who uses bash anyway ;)
[11:16] <Axces> export PATH=
[11:16] <Axces> yeah, me too
[11:16] <Axces> ..
[11:16] <Axces> heh
[11:16] <titan> cccc
[11:16] <jme> well, Axces has the right idea - but you don't want to overwrite your old $PATH
[11:16] <mbirkis> biscon, s3 savage i think card on my laptop, using the standard driver i think... haven't touched it
[11:16] <nu2ubuntu> thanks soundray! :)
[11:16] <Lars_G> For example, there is an alsa set in /etc/modprobe.d but the only inits that seem to read the dir are lvm and pcmcia unless they're handled by one of the base rc.
[11:16] <Axces> set PATH="new stuff:$PATH"
[11:16] <Axces> right?
[11:16] <soundray> nu2ubuntu:
[11:16] <Axces> something like that
[11:16] <soundray> !info krb5-user
[11:16] <ubotu> krb5-user: Basic programs to authenticate using MIT Kerberos. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-5 (dapper), package size 115 kB, installed size 312 kB
[11:17] <Axces> I havn't messed with my bash files in a while
[11:17] <syllogism> export PATH=$PATH:/new/path:/second/new/path/
[11:17] <jme> yeah, I think that's correct
[11:17] <syllogism> with the bash
[11:17] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: have you setup your repositories yet?
[11:17] <kbrooks> syeates: no
[11:17] <kbrooks> syllogism: * no
[11:17] <kbrooks> syllogism: ah, nm
[11:17] <jme> there's always a dozen ways to do something
[11:17] <Gorlist> can I add XawTV ti tge Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:17] <biscon> mbirkis: never had an S3 but the way I would go about solving the problem with be first finding out which chipset I got (use lspci)
[11:17] <Axces> should be in quotes, I am pretty sure
[11:17] <mbirkis> biscon, the xorg.conf file says driver "savage"
[11:17] <kbrooks> syllogism: misread
[11:17] <Gorlist> to the i mean
[11:17] <nu2ubuntu> i dont know very much about linux so im not sure soundray
[11:17] <Axces> but I am not sure, just pretty sure
[11:18] <biscon> mbirkis: then I would google that chipset and find out about what drivers exists for linux, then find out which of those I am currently using
[11:18] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: have you used the synaptic package manager yet?
[11:18] <nu2ubuntu> to do updates?
[11:18] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: yes, and to install extra software.
[11:18] <nu2ubuntu> some
[11:18] <mbirkis> biscon, will try that thnx for the help
[11:18] <Gorlist>  hmmm
[11:19] <thomas_> soundray: could you pls explain me the workaround for the shutdown problem under Dapper Drake
[11:19] <thomas_> what do i have to change in menu.lst from grub
[11:19] <rrohde> with the compiz vanilla it says +cvz20060626 ...
[11:19] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: you need to activate the universe repository in there (Settings-Repos), then "Reload", and then look for the krb5 stuff
[11:20] <kristian> can someone help me with my graphic card? the driver is a little bit crazy, and don't work as it should :P
[11:20] <soundray> thomas_: you have to add two new lines, after the automagic list
[11:20] <Savage> Is there a decent newbie guide for installing ubuntu I keep stoping after Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.  I have no idea what to do after there
[11:20] <kr4z> does anybody know an easy way to set the permissions on a bunch of files and directories so that the files are all 644 and the directories are all 755 from the command line?
[11:21] <soundray> thomas: first 'title Shutdown', second 'halt'.
[11:21] <kr4z> without setting each one individually..?
[11:21] <syllogism> kr4z, chmod -R 644 *
[11:21] <soundray> Then you have to find out the number for that title entry. Count all lines beginning with title, starting at 0
[11:21] <kr4z> but that changes the directories to 644 also :S
[11:22] <syllogism> kr4z, change them back? - it's not that hard
[11:22] <kr4z> there are so many..
[11:22] <soundray> thomas_: then you can boot to that entry with 'sudo grub-reboot 5' (assuming that the Shutdown entry is the sixth one.
[11:22] <soundray> )
[11:22] <Cornellius> !firestarter
[11:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[11:22] <lophyte> gah!
[11:22] <nu2ubuntu> soundray: hmm, it looks like kerberos is weorking (i got my mail from the server) \o/
[11:22] <soundray> nu2ubuntu: wow, that was easy.
[11:22] <lophyte> how can I configure alsa to use my second sound card (hw:1,1) by default?
[11:22] <nu2ubuntu> thanks!
[11:24] <lophyte> nevermind
[11:24] <lophyte> it works
[11:24] <thomas_> title           Shutdown
[11:24] <thomas_> halt
[11:24] <thomas_> did you mean this way ?
[11:24] <soundray> thomas
[11:24] <soundray> yes
[11:24] <thomas_> thank you
[11:24] <lophyte> yay I broke mplayer
[11:25] <Savage> where can I find a good newbie guide on installing ubuntu?
[11:25] <nu2ubuntu> one more question:  i have some data cds with proprietary music formats that i cant play on my computer. how do i get the codecs or what program should i use to play them?
[11:25] <soundray> thomas_: if it doesn't work, change it to 'halt --no-apm'
[11:25] <erUSUL> nu2ubuntu: which codecs
[11:25] <thomas_> ok
[11:25] <lophyte> Savage: I believe there's one on http://help.ubuntu.com/
[11:25] <PHZN> Java Runtime Environment is installed on my system, but Firefox doesn't see it, what do I do/
[11:25] <PHZN> ?
[11:25] <thomas_> but i think apm is overrided by acpi
[11:25] <lophyte> PHZN: install the java plugins
[11:26] <lophyte> one sec
[11:26] <PHZN> k
[11:26] <vincenz> How do I get dual montiro setup with dapper on laptop?
[11:26] <nu2ubuntu> erUSUL: well im tryign to play mp3
[11:26] <vincenz> aka...monitor and laptoplcd
[11:26] <soundray> thomas_: halt uses an APM function by default, and most computers still have that rudimentary element of APM.
[11:26] <erUSUL> !mp3 > nu2ubuntu
[11:26] <kristian> ehm, someone who likes to help people with graphic cards? I need some help, from a professional I think. 4-5 guys have tried allready, and I feel it's almost fixed :)
[11:27] <lophyte> PHZN: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-bin sun-java5-plugin
[11:27] <thomas_> thx will try this and report if it is working
[11:27] <vincenz> monitor even
[11:27] <eXistenZ> What does this path mean ? "./"
[11:27] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[11:27] <Axces> its the current directory
[11:27] <Axces> .
[11:27] <Axces> is
[11:27] <erUSUL> eXistenZ: current directory
[11:27] <soundray> eXistenZ: the present working directory
[11:28] <Gorlist> Sorry to have to ask again  -  how can I install Tvtime, or XawTV through Synaptic Package Manager??
[11:28] <vincenz> Does anyone know how to set up having dual desktops in dapper with a laptopt
[11:28] <eXistenZ> Why cannot I execute files with the name of the file, when I'm in current directory? why do I have to put ./
[11:28] <soundray> !info xawtv
[11:28] <ubotu> xawtv: X11 TV application. In repository universe, is extra. Version 3.94-1.0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 219 kB, installed size 712 kB
[11:28] <PHZN> lophyte:  I'm still on Breezy, will that make a difference/
[11:28] <gatekeeper> vincenz: is it listed in synaptic?
[11:28] <PHZN> Because I keep getting errors
[11:28] <Axces> vincenz: I would imagine it wouldn't be much different than not having a laptop
[11:28] <vincenz> gatekeeper: hmm?
[11:28] <lophyte> PHZN: what errors?
[11:28] <vincenz> Axces: ok, well how do I do it in general
[11:29] <Gorlist> I see thanks!
[11:29] <soundray> eXistenZ: because it is a security risk.
[11:29] <PHZN> couldn't find package
[11:29] <Axces> vincenz: well I have a nvidia card, so I just turned on twinview in my xorg config
[11:29] <lophyte> do you have the universe/multiverse repositories enabled?
[11:29] <romulo> hi, theres any way to capture network packets from a single input program isntead of a whole interface?
[11:29] <vincenz> Axces: ah...yeah I have an ATI :(
[11:30] <PHZN> No
[11:30] <PHZN> edit sources.list?
[11:30] <mikeo1> Fatal server error:
[11:30] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:30] <lophyte> yup
[11:30] <mikeo1> knew something like this would happen when i upgrade
[11:30] <Axces> vincenz:  I did a quick google and found http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=109656  you might keep looking around
[11:30] <lophyte> edit sources.list and uncomment the universe and multiverse lines
[11:30] <Gorlist> ok lastly, whats the APT line/address for the repository universe?
[11:30] <vincenz> Axces: not to mention the fglrx crap is so buggy
[11:30] <gatekeeper> vincenz: if you have got synaptic installed search for what you want, right click mark for install then from the toolbar click 'Apply Changes' button
[11:30] <jrib> !repos > Gorlist
[11:30] <Axces> vincenz: heh, sorry :-/
[11:31] <lophyte> PHZN: once those repos are enabled, sudo apt-get update
[11:31] <Gorlist> ok thanks Jrib :)
[11:31] <lophyte> then try that one I gave you earlier
[11:31] <Gorlist> smart bot
[11:31] <Gorlist> smart user :)
[11:31] <GitarooMan> oh hey i got it working
[11:31] <vincenz> gatekeeper: thank you for a non-applicable truism
[11:31] <PHZN> lophyte:  is the multiverse repository normally in a standard sources.list and just commented out, or do i have to add it in?
[11:31] <lophyte> its commented out
[11:31] <lophyte> it should be there
[11:32] <brotherJohn1234> and there is a gui-way to enable those .
[11:32] <mikeo1> Fatal server error:
[11:32] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:32] <mikeo1> Couldn't open RGB_DB '/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb'
[11:32] <PHZN> Well, I'm halfway done with the way through shell
[11:32] <mikeo1> how do i fix this?
[11:32] <kristian> is there a "smart-fixer" or fast-fixer for fglrx? It's not working..
[11:33] <lophyte> PHZN: once you install those 3 java packages, it should be no problem :)
[11:33] <mikeo1> and after upgrading to dapper i get gdm errors, and it says no monitor found
[11:33] <mikeo1> wtf
[11:33] <mikeo1> knew i shouldnt have upgraded
[11:33] <mikeo1> at least windows upgrade doesnt blow up my computer
[11:34] <PHZN> mikeol:  there;s nothing stopping you from using Windows
[11:34] <Axces> heh, talk to those SP 2 beta users
[11:34] <mikeo1> while people are always talking about how ubuntu is going to take over the desktop market
[11:34] <andyp> lorez: can you help me with a nick problem?
[11:34] <PHZN> I personally don't think it will
[11:34] <mikeo1> it would be nice and all if it did, but i dont see that happening when an upgrade breaks my computer
[11:35] <PHZN> mikeol: that's exactly why I don't see it taking over the desktop market
[11:35] <mikeo1> while how do i get around default font fixed
[11:35] <mikeo1> where is the fonts dir
[11:35] <SonicChao> !fonts
[11:35] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[11:35] <coopster> I can't get Ubuntu Dapper live CD to boot on my computer.  It hangs on the "Mounting root partition..." portion of the startup process (in the Ubuntu splash screen).  This is on a CD that is known to be good, on a setup where the only thing that changed recently is the motherboard and cd drive
[11:35] <coopster> any thoughts?
[11:35] <PowerPcUser> hi there, are ubuntu developers in the channel ?
[11:35] <PHZN> Alright, what are the URLS I have to add in to sources.list for breezy multiverse?
[11:36] <hctibtipots> any1 willing to lend a noob some help
[11:36] <SonicChao> PowerPcUser, why do you need a developer?
[11:36] <SonicChao> hctibtipots, what's the problem?
[11:36] <Axces> hctibtipots: shoot, someone will help I'm sure
[11:36] <skavenge> i know 'mounting root partition' took like 5 minutes at least on my laptop ..
[11:36] <PHZN> Don't ask to ask
[11:36] <PHZN> Just ask
[11:36] <Curumo> why
[11:36] <PowerPcUser> would like to know sth about ppc ,.. and the direction to go in the future ,...
[11:36] <stefg> mikeo1: have you ever heard of 'the way is the destination' (or whatever the correct translation is)... help us help you by providing the details
[11:36] <Intelligi> Ok, I found out my problem was the CD Drive. I popped it in my other, and I didn't get the Buffer I\O error anymore. I checked the Live CD for errors, and it had none. I also did a memtest, and everything seemed in order. Now the problem is that it hangs after loading everything.
[11:36] <coopster> skavenge:  afaik it's just frozen, i've given it 10 minutes before
[11:36] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:37] <hctibtipots> tryin to install my ati card and dont know how to
[11:37] <Intelligi> The little flashing _ stays solid after about 15 seconds.
[11:37] <mikeo1> lol "failed to load module nvidia" module doesnt exist"
[11:37] <Intelligi> What gives?
[11:37] <SonicChao> PowerPcUser, sign up for the developer mailing list at http://lists.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <mikeo1> did the upgrade kill my video drivers too?
[11:37] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:37] <jrib> !ask
[11:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:37] <stefg> !ask
[11:37] <SonicChao> SURE Curumo
[11:37] <skavenge> hmm
[11:37] <PowerPcUser> SonixChao : are you developing for ubuntu
[11:37] <PowerPcUser> ?
[11:37] <Aven> hello
[11:37] <PHZN> mikeol:  it's possible that you need upgraded drivers to be compatible with the updates you installed
[11:37] <SonicChao> PowerPcUser, no, I'm not, I'm an Ubuntu n00b :D
[11:37] <coopster> !face_punches
[11:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about face_punches
[11:38] <mikeo1> yeah there was no nvidia-glx installed, installing it now
[11:38] <Aven> I removed java 1.4 and installed 1.5, how can I make firefox recognize the new version? and yes, I restarted it
[11:38] <biscon> lollerskates
[11:38] <santa44> soundray im thomas from before the workaround isnt working at all
[11:38] <coopster> ;)
[11:38] <Curumo> ok, what question do you recommend?
[11:38] <Intelligi> Can I get some help?
[11:38] <SonicChao> What do you need Intelligi ?
[11:38] <Curumo> can I ask that?
[11:38] <biscon> Intelligi: can I get some money?
[11:38] <Intelligi> Ok, I found out my problem was the CD Drive. I popped it in my other, and I didn't get the Buffer I\O error anymore. I checked the Live CD for errors, and it had none. I also did a memtest, and everything seemed in order. Now the problem is that it hangs after loading everything.
[11:38] <SGershon> Intelligi: State your problem, someone may listen and help.
[11:38] <hctibtipots> how do you install a *.run file???
[11:38] <Intelligi> The little flashing _ stays solid after about 15 seconds.
[11:38] <Curumo> what question do I have to ask?
[11:39] <SonicChao> Curumo, stop being a smart ass and actually ask the question
[11:39] <Aven> I removed java 1.4 and installed 1.5, how can I make firefox recognize the new version? and yes, I restarted it
[11:39] <Curumo> is life beautiful?
[11:39] <SGershon> Intelligi: How much % do the installer reach?
[11:39] <coopster> hctibtipots: usually, you download it, make it executable (chmod +x <filename>.run, do this from a terminal) and then run it by typing ./<filename.run>
[11:39] <Led_Zeppelin> hey, anyone here do a PXE install before? I need some help setting it up
[11:39] <Intelligi> 100% it seems. It goes to booting it, with the little _ in the top righthand corner.
[11:39] <Intelligi> Then it hangs.
[11:40] <biscon> Aven: copy that plugin from that obscure position under the jre installation to ~/.mozilla/plugins
[11:40] <ardchoille> Do we need voice in this channel now?
[11:40] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:40] <SonicChao> !patience
[11:40] <ardchoille> ok, apparently not. cool :)
[11:40] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[11:40] <SonicChao> Who changed that entry in ubotu?
[11:40] <SGershon> Intelligi: Ok. And what if you just power it down manually and then power up again?
[11:40] <SonicChao> I liked the old one better
[11:40] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:40] <SGershon> Is ubuntu installed?
[11:40] <Intelligi> Samething. It has hanged three times already.
[11:40] <Aven> biscon: where would the plguin be?
[11:40] <Intelligi> No, it is the Live CD.
[11:40] <PHZN> !ask
[11:40] <ardchoille> Curumo: just ask, don't ask to ask
[11:40] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:41] <goonies> how do you reinstate the root account on ubuntu and get rid of sudo, i want root to do administrative things and my normal user to do normal user things
[11:41] <biscon> Aven: ehm.. I always forgot.. 2 secs
[11:41] <goonies> is it possible?
[11:41] <Aven> ohh found it
[11:41] <Curumo> ok, what should I ask?
[11:41] <bbrazil> !rootsudo
[11:41] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:41] <Aven> 'locate java.so'
[11:41] <bbrazil> goonies: ^
[11:41] <Aven>  /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so
[11:41] <PHZN> goonies:  just change the password on the root account
[11:41] <Aven> heh
[11:41] <Led_Zeppelin> I have a Debian server (which will be my server where the image is), and I have another workstation which will be my tftp client. So I need some help settig it up. Do I need to have DHCPD running?
[11:41] <biscon> Aven: try locate libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:41] <SGershon> Intelligi: Maybe I didn't get your problem, are you trying to install, or to run the Live CD?
[11:41] <Aven> ty
[11:41] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:41] <Intelligi> Run the live CD.
[11:41] <biscon> Aven: its probably somewhere in /opt
[11:41] <ardchoille> Curumo: stop it
[11:41] <jrib> Curumo: stop.
[11:41] <Aven> I find these:
[11:41] <Curumo> why
[11:41] <Led_Zeppelin> Curumo, get a life
[11:41] <Aven>  /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/lib/i386/libjava.so
[11:41] <goonies> bbrazil: its possible?
[11:41] <BCK14> how do i search a directory of c code files for some text?
[11:41] <coopster> I can't get Ubuntu Dapper live CD to boot on my computer.  It hangs on the "Mounting root partition..." portion of the startup process (in the Ubuntu splash screen).  This is on a CD that is known to be good, on a setup where the only thing that changed recently is the motherboard and cd drive
[11:41] <kalosaurusrex> !helpme
[11:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:41] <Aven> and /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/lib/i386/libjava.so
[11:41] <jrib> Curumo: just ask your question
[11:41] <coopster> any thoughts?
[11:41] <BCK14> is it grep ?
[11:42] <Aven> which should I use?
[11:42] <santa44> I have a problem with the shutdown under Dapper Drake someone else have this problem and a solution for it ?
[11:42] <Curumo> what question?
[11:42] <bbrazil> goonies: yes, read the page uboto indicated - it says how
[11:42] <PHZN> ubotu tell curumo about ask
[11:42] <BCK14> how do i search a directory of c code files for some text?   do i use grep ??
[11:42] <kalosaurusrex> !tell helpme > curumo
[11:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell helpme
[11:42] <stefg> goonies: sudo passwd root, and get all the other users out ouf t6he sudoers file and the admin-group
[11:42] <jrib> goonies: setup the root password and remove the user from the admin group, but the gui admin tools may cause a problem
[11:42] <ardchoille> Curumo: being a tard is only going to get you banned or added to ignore lists. if you have a question about Ubuntu, then ask.
[11:42] <bbrazil> BCK14: I prefer fgrep -r 'text' .
[11:42] <kalosaurusrex> oh opps
[11:42] <biscon> Aven: nope its called libjavaplugin
[11:42] <kalosaurusrex> I thought that worked /shrug
[11:42] <SGershon> Oh, sorry. :P I have an answer if you want to install it. ;)     But be aware that in the live CD, the system does not restart.
[11:42] <PHZN> Alright
[11:42] <vincenz> Anyone familiar with i810switch?
[11:42] <BCK14> ok bbrazil
[11:42] <vincenz> do I need to reboot post install?
[11:42] <BCK14> ty
[11:42] <vincenz> or just restart gdm?
[11:42] <PHZN> Something is up
[11:42] <Curumo> why do you want me to ask a question?
[11:43] <SGershon> Try to load the Live CD with Safe Graphics. It may help.
[11:43] <Aven> all I find is libjava
[11:43] <Aven> hm
[11:43] <bbrazil> BCK14: fgrep is a lot faster than grep for simple strings
[11:43] <PHZN> I did apt-get update after adding in multiverse and universe
[11:43] <ardchoille>  /ignore Curumo
[11:43] <biscon> Aven: don't have this? /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:43] <_absolution_> how do you run gedit through command?
[11:43] <Aven> ohh, found it!
[11:43] <santa44> nobody with a laptop
[11:43] <hctibtipots> im lost...
[11:43] <Aven> it installed in mozilla-firefox
[11:43] <Aven> but not firefox
[11:43] <bbrazil> _absolution_: are you looking for gksudo?
[11:43] <ardchoille> _absolution_: gedit /path/to/file
[11:43] <Chewie> Hi
[11:43] <PHZN> and i'm still not finding the jre
[11:43] <Curumo> what is a question?
[11:43] <santa44> hi
[11:43] <SGershon> santa44: I am with a Lap.
[11:43] <njkt> I have a question with the package system.  I was using the small tutorials from the help site but i ran into a snag, when i try to use "sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc" everything goes fine and then it starts to compile and i get this error "configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in . ./.. ./../.." any ideas how to fix it?
[11:43] <stefg> Curumo, this is not an Eliza look-alike contest... welcome to #ubuntu-offtopic for bs'ing people
[11:43] <PHZN> Hi Chewie, welcome to #ubuntu
[11:43] <biscon> Aven: good now copy that to .mozilla/plugins in your homedirectory (or symlink would be better)
[11:44] <Curumo> why, stefg?
[11:44] <santa44> SGershon: does your laptop shutdown correctly without pressing the power off button for some seconds ?
[11:44] <Aven> alright
[11:44] <jrib> njkt: what are you building?
[11:44] <coopster> Curumo:  because some people in here actually want to give or recieve help.
[11:44] <Aven> w00t works ty
[11:44] <_absolution_> how would you run gksudo?
[11:44] <BCK14> bbrazil: i shall try
[11:44] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:44] <skavenge> my laptop shuts off fine
[11:44] <BCK14> does it take long ?   bbrazil ?
[11:44] <_absolution_> gksudo/path/to/file?
[11:44] <njkt> jrib, a new package, nothing i want to submit but i wanted to learn how to use the pkg system
[11:45] <ardchoille> _absolution_: gksudo appname
[11:45] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:45] <bbrazil> BCK14: depends on how much data, disk speeds and caching
[11:45] <PHZN> Curumo:  Yes you can ask a question
[11:45] <SGershon> santa44: Yes. Didn't happen everytim with 5.10, but 6.06 is fine.
[11:45] <_absolution_> ok
[11:45] <jrib> !ops
[11:45] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[11:45] <biscon> Aven: np :)
[11:45] <BCK14> hmm ok
[11:45] <Seveas> jrib, ?
[11:45] <ardchoille> _absolution_: gksudo gedit  works too
[11:45] <Amaranth> jrib: ?
[11:45] <Curumo> ok, what question
[11:45] <jay> i was using the rescue disk, togglin some options... and now i get the error "can't access tty: job control turned off" this happens right after it tries mountin the root file system... is all hope lost?
[11:45] <BCK14> bbrazil: fgrep -r 'changed'  correct syntax?
[11:45] <AlphaVista> Hey guys ive a little problem ive installed and got xgl working but i cannot get the transparancy nor is there an option at the top of a window with right click for it
[11:45] <jrib> Seveas: Curumo is really getting annoying
[11:45] <nalioth> jrib: ?
[11:45] <Chewie> I got a legal question. The Ubuntu Logo is subject to trademark policy (http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/TrademarkPolicy/). However, it's included in the package "ubuntu-artwork", whose copyright says its contents are licensed under Creative Commons. Is this an incoherence or am I missing something?
[11:45] <coopster> Seveas:  gettim
[11:45] <biscon> sudo gedit <file> works fine on my machine
[11:45] <Amaranth> Curumo: just ask
[11:45] <santa44> SGershon: did it worked without any change of your system or did you have to edit something ?
[11:45] <Curumo> what question?
[11:45] <bbrazil> BCK14: put a . at teh end of that - the path to search
[11:45] <coopster> ty
[11:45] <hctibtipots> sum1 pm this noob...
[11:46] <BCK14> ok
[11:46] <SGershon> When I switched to Dapper, it works 100%.
[11:46] <mikeo1> Fatal server error:
[11:46] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[11:46] <BCK14> bbrazil: fgrep -r 'changed'. /home/
[11:46] <BCK14> ?
[11:46] <AlphaVista> Hey guys ive a little problem ive installed and got xgl working but i cannot get the transparancy nor is there an option at the top of a window with right click for it
[11:46] <mikeo1> how do i load default font fixed
[11:46] <coopster> I can't get Ubuntu Dapper live CD to boot on my computer.  It hangs on the "Mounting root partition..." portion of the startup process (in the Ubuntu splash screen).  This is on a CD that is known to be good, on a setup where the only thing that changed recently is the motherboard and cd drive.  can anyone help me diagnose this?  I dont know where to start
[11:46] <SGershon> On 5.10, sometimes it would, sometimes not. I think it depended whether I had Batteries or A/C power.
[11:46] <Seveas> mikeo1, did that happen after a dist-upgrade?
[11:46] <SGershon> santa44:  see above.
[11:46] <mikeo1> yes
[11:46] <BCK14> coopster: try alternate install cd
[11:46] <bbrazil> BCK14: ed' /home
[11:46] <mikeo1> from breezy to dapper
[11:46] <santa44> SGershon: Becaus on my laptop it doesnt work and it is really hard
[11:47] <BCK14> ok
[11:47] <jrib> njkt: well, you could try 'apt-get source some_package' and then using pbuilder on that, just to make sure everything is ok with your pbuilder setup
[11:47] <Seveas> mikeo1, reset your X configuration with: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:47] <santa44> SGershon: My last problem i have with Dapper
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> Chewie: Might need to ask the lawyer types.  I think it's trademark@ubuntu.com or some such thing.
[11:47] <AlphaVista> any one please
[11:47] <bbrazil> BCK14: unless you want to look for 'changed.' :)
[11:47] <BCK14> nice bbrazil :)
[11:47] <BCK14> no
[11:47] <BCK14> just changed :)
[11:47] <SGershon> santa44: yes, it is a pain to have to wait and then press the button for seconds. Try with/without A/C power.
[11:47] <coopster> BCK14:  is the alternate install done any differently, or is that just my next best guess?
[11:47] <bbrazil> BCK14: note that -r is a gnuism
[11:47] <Seveas> AlphaVista, try alt+mousewheel
[11:47] <Chewie> tonyyarusso: Aha
[11:47] <BCK14> textbased
[11:47] <njkt> alright
[11:48] <AlphaVista> dont have a mouse wheel
[11:48] <BCK14> coopster: text
[11:48] <Seveas> !xgl > AlphaVista
[11:48] <santa44> SGershon: What are you thinking for what should it change ?
[11:48] <Seveas> AlphaVista, tough luck then, I don't know any other way :/
[11:48] <coopster> BCK14:  it's not the gui that's hanging, I've gotten X to run with my gfx card before, the boot up process hangs right after "mounting root filesystem"
[11:48] <santa44> SGershon: It doesnt work with A/C power have to try without
[11:48] <ardchoille> Seveas: can I pm you real quick?
[11:48] <Seveas> ardchoille, no need to ask
[11:48] <AlphaVista> i use to be able todo it by right clicking the top of a window but theres no option there now
[11:49] <jrib> njkt: did you follow the ubuntu packaging guide to setup your package?
[11:49] <stefg> coopster: kernel 2.6.15-25?
[11:49] <coopster> BCK14: interestingly enough, that HD has ubuntu installed on it, and both the liveCD and the installed OS hang at the same point
[11:49] <njkt> yes
[11:49] <SGershon> santa44: Power Policies change depending on the ACPI System State.
[11:49] <Chewie> Bye
[11:49] <_absolution_> I'm having trouble with tar files.....cant seem to untar them....
[11:49] <santa44> SGershon: I will try it later
[11:49] <scanner_X> hey, how do i install .theme files
[11:49] <njkt> i'm going to try and build one that already works and make sure nothing on my system is broke heh
[11:49] <santa44> SGershon: Thx for the tip
[11:49] <coopster> stefg: Dapper 6.06, not sure if that's the one that comes with it
[11:49] <Seveas> !themes > scanner_X
[11:50] <GitarooMan> ok everyone... i have another stupid question. how can i minimize a program to the top panel?
[11:50] <_absolution_> I've tried zxvf and jxvf
[11:50] <biscon> _absolution_: try tar xzvf somearchive.tar.gz from the commandline
[11:50] <scanner_X> yeah, i already know the web sites, but how do i install them?
[11:50] <jrib> njkt: yeah try doing the hello world examples and compare it to the ones in the guide
[11:50] <santa44> SGershon: I think the problem is acpi too but i don't know what to change
[11:50] <biscon> _absolution_: the order of the arguments doesn't matter but z is gz and j is bzip2
[11:50] <njkt> yeah, doing that now
[11:50] <jrib> _absolution_: what does 'file name_of_file' say?
[11:51] <stefg> coopster: the later dapper kernels often show issues like that. try booting without 'quiet splash' arguments, or even with 'noacpi'
[11:51] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:51] <Savage> What does /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off mean?
[11:51] <kalosaurusrex> !helpme Curumo
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about helpme Curumo
[11:51] <kalosaurusrex> !helpme > curumo
[11:51] <SGershon> you can try to turn acpi off just for your investigation.
[11:51] <kalosaurusrex> I'll get it right someday
[11:51] <_absolution_> all I get is "file is not in directory' or something like that
[11:51] <goonies> so i read the website ubotu posted about rootsudo, it states that it is not recommended to go back to a traditional root account but doesnt say why it isnt recommended
[11:52] <mikeo1> did a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and still cant find default font fixed
[11:52] <goonies> why isnt it recommended
[11:52] <jrib> _absolution_: file /path/to/the_file
[11:52] <Savage> im starting to get headache from this
[11:52] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:52] <kalosaurusrex> goonies: it's a security risk
[11:52] <kalosaurusrex> not recommended but you can do it.
[11:52] <SGershon> santa44: See above.
[11:52] <coopster> stefg:  i've tried noacpi, i'll turn off the quite splash next try (not at the computer ATM)  any other tips?
[11:52] <Seveas> mikeo1, make sure ubuntu-desktop from dapper is installed
[11:52] <goonies> kalosaurusrex: i dont know but i feel its a security risk allowing a normal user to do sudo
[11:53] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:53] <coopster> Seveas:  could you just ban Curumo pls?
[11:53] <kalosaurusrex> Seveas, can something be done about Curumo..
[11:53] <mikeo1> i dont want ubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <santa44> SGershon: Thougt so too but acpi=off is a bad idea because my sound and KPowersafe need the acpi
[11:53] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[11:53] <mikeo1> it will use an extra gig, this is ubuntu-server
[11:53] <jay> i was using the rescue disk, togglin some options... and now i get the error "can't access tty: job control turned off" this happens right after it tries mountin the root file system... is all hope lost?
[11:53] <biscon> why should activating the root account as opposed to sudo'ing be a security risk? I thought is was just a matter of preference
[11:53] <spik> what is an "Upstream Version Freeze"?
[11:53] <heinz> do it curumo
[11:53] <kalosaurusrex> goonies: true. depends on how you look at it.  you can turn off sudo per user as you want.
[11:53] <stefg> coopster: read my suffering at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-image-k7/+bug/48186
[11:53] <kalosaurusrex> just edit /etc/sudoers
[11:53] <JackRazz> does anyone here backup/restore their installed ubuntu with a live cd?
[11:53] <spik> and why is it preventing me from getting Amarok 1.4?
[11:54] <mikeo1> where do i find default font fixed
[11:54] <bbrazil> goonies: really that discussion should go in #ubuntu-offtopic, but it's no more than letting a normal user su
[11:54] <goonies> i really dont like the whole sudo idea, i guess im too use too other distrobutions
[11:54] <mikeo1> sudo su
[11:54] <SGershon> santa44: You can try just for one time, to see if that is what is disturbing the shutdown. Or not.
[11:54] <mikeo1> although i enabled user root lol
[11:54] <coopster> goonies:  just sudo passwd root, then you can log in as root
[11:54] <biscon> goonies: then type sudo passwd and be over with it :)
[11:54] <subtlerobot> hey, anyone here use xgl/compiz
[11:54] <subtlerobot> ?
[11:54] <Seveas> !xgl > subtlerobot
[11:54] <goonies> does that disable sudo?
[11:55] <biscon> goonies: nope then you can use both
[11:55] <coopster> goonies:  no, but it enables logging in as root
[11:55] <spik> what is an "Upstream Version Freeze"?
[11:55] <spik> and why is it preventing me from getting Amarok 1.4?
[11:55] <kalosaurusrex> goonies: you can edit the /etc/sudoers and remove all access to sudo if you want.
[11:55] <JackRazz> sudo is good for me(:
[11:55] <mada> hiya Seveas
[11:55] <biscon> coopster: sorry, its not on purpose
[11:55] <goonies> kalosaurusrex: thanks
[11:55] <coopster> goonies:  i would imagine you can take your account out of the "wheel" group and then sugu won't work
[11:55] <biscon> JackRazz: then use sudo :)
[11:55] <subtlerobot> Seveas, nono, i'm having a problem with things opening up
[11:55] <JaZy84> hey can anyone point me in the right direction for ipmasquarding i have 2 nics and want my ubuntu box to act as a router for a couple more boxes (aslo running ubuntu)
[11:55] <coopster> biscon: eh?
[11:55] <santa44> SGershon: The shutdown with acpi=off or acpi=force didn't work i was really wondering because i can only think of a error in the acpi when acpi_power_off hangs at the shutdown
[11:55] <JackRazz> spik, the real question is do they remove the upstream stream
[11:56] <tonyyarusso> spik: I believe there exists an explanation at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpstreamVersionFreeze
[11:56] <Seveas> subtlerobot, the people in #ubuntu-xgl can help with xgl things 
[11:56] <JackRazz> version stream
[11:56] <subtlerobot> Seveas, when i open something from a task bar, the little window outline goes really slowly
[11:56] <biscon> coopster: nvm ;)
[11:56] <subtlerobot> oh, thanks
[11:56] <SGershon> santa44: I'm running out of ideas. Something on ubuntuforums?
[11:56] <spik> JackRazz: what?
[11:56] <spik> explain please
[11:56] <monomaniacpat> If I want to point a program to gedit, what's the pathname?
[11:57] <biscon> /usr/bin/gedit
[11:57] <ardchoille> monomaniacpat: type which gedit
[11:57] <santa44> SGershon: searched several times but it seems to be a great bug because a lot of the laptop users have this problem
[11:57] <monomaniacpat> fangs biscon
[11:57] <lophyte> PHZN: did you get java working yet?
[11:57] <santa44> SGershon: And there is no solution in sight
[11:58] <remnon> heya.. what was the command for mounting a windows-installed hd into ubuntu?  i need to access me music and films.. i'm just too pissed to remember the bloody command :p
[11:58] <santa44> SGershon: At least i think so
[11:58] <SGershon> santa44: Why only laptops? Do _ALL_ desktops shutdown properly?
[11:58] <SonicChao> remnon, have you installed ubuntu yet?
[11:59] <biscon> remnon: mount /media/something /dev/something -t ntfs (or vfat)
[11:59] <Draconicus> remnon: mount -t ntfs /dev/(whatever) /media/(wherever)
[11:59] <_absolution_> do I need to open the file with archive manager when downloading a tar file?
[11:59] <lophyte> brb
[11:59] <biscon> damn im quick
[11:59] <remnon> yeah, using the thing right now, as i have for the past year lol
[11:59] <remnon> wicked
[11:59] <kalosaurusrex> !vfat
[11:59] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:59] <remnon> cheers
[11:59] <santa44> SGershon: i think so because i have not heard of problems by desktops only by laptops
[12:00] <biscon> remnon: but you will only be able to access the files as root.. you need to pass the user flag aswell.. can't remember the syntax, anybody?
[12:00] <coopster> stefg: was removing the DVD-Drive the only permanent workaround, or did the problem never ever occur when splash quiet wasn't a boot option?
[12:00] <soester> I just installed dapper and I've now got a dual booting system, but when I reboot the keyboard does not work during boot so I can't choose if I want to log in to windows, any tip ?
[12:00] <SGershon> santa44: :(
[12:00] <scanner_X> im trying to download AIM for linux, which version do i need to download for Ubuntu
[12:00] <biscon> soester: thats a feature :)
[12:00] <Savage> omg im going insane I have no idea what to do after is says: /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[12:00] <SGershon> santa44: Do you know if others distros have the same problem?