[12:17] <slow-motion> n8
[12:20] <xst> How do I add a new system language? In System Settings I there is only US english to choose from. How do I expand this list of countries?
[12:21] <_kaan> xst: try apt-cache search language-support-sr
[12:21] <LiquidNerd> yay.. I got edgy to work...
[12:21] <_kaan> xst: try apt-cache search language-support
[12:21] <xst> thanks
[12:23] <gnk> hello any one can help my about a install soft install problem please
[12:23] <gnk> ?
[12:23] <sensei> Not unless you specify the problem
[12:24] <gnk> when i use a command like sudo apt-get install XXXXX , there is alwais the same message , can not found pakage ....
[12:24] <gnk> what is my problem ?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> gnk: more than likely your repos
[12:25] <sensei> gnk: You're mispelling the name? Your sources suck?
[12:25] <gnomefreak> !sources
[12:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:25] <gnomefreak> gnk: follow that guide tro enable your repos
[12:25] <gnk> thx vm
[12:26] <xst> _kaan: I just installed the language-support for my language, but still there is only US english in the language list. Also dpkg-reconfigure locales only generates en_US locales.
[12:28] <_kaan> xst: which language list are you talking about?
[12:30] <xst> _kaan: Actually two: 1) System Settings -> Regional -> Add language   and 2) the installed locales (I no longer no how to install new locales)
[12:30] <_kaan> xst: maybe you need the translations too
[12:31] <_kaan> xst: try apt-cache search for language-pack-kde
[12:31] <xst> _kaan: But locales shouldn't be window manager dependant. So this whouldn't fix my locales problem
[12:32] <_kaan> xst: well there are also just language-pack packages too
[12:33] <_kaan> xst: search around for the languages you need and install the related packages
[12:33] <xst> _kaan: Hmm, ok. Thanks
[12:33] <xst> (it seems that the language-packed worked)
[12:34] <_kaan> cool ^_^
[12:39] <bachstudies> hi everyone...Does anyone know if there is an easy way to uninstall the ubuntu-desktop meta package from Kubuntu? I think that removing the ubuntu-desktop would only remove that and not the actual files.
[12:40] <zorglu1> i wish the package removal was easier
[12:40] <zorglu1> but apparetnly to remove installed stuff is hard on computer :)
[12:40] <zorglu1> pseudo trolling in a unhelpfull manner :)
[12:41] <_kaan> what exactly do you want to remove? you want to get rid of all the gnome-desktop stuff?
[12:41] <RobNyc> how do I install kde themes?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> kde-look.org?
[12:42] <RobNyc> it doesnt explain how
[12:42] <RobNyc> for ex. http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41555 this 1
[12:42] <sbriscoe> anybody have trouble with flash on firefox? i run the install and it completes successfully, but firefox still tries to install the plugin like nothing happened
[12:42] <gnomefreak> RobNyc: download itthan open your themes menu in the menu and click install?
[12:43] <RobNyc> let me try thanks
[12:43] <gnomefreak> not ok kde atm so hard to pin point where everything is
[12:43] <RobNyc> gnomefreak, itthan ?
[12:43] <bachstudies> _kaan: I have Kubuntu as my base and want to remove any ubuntu-desktop stuff that I installed temporarily.
[12:43] <gnomefreak> it than
[12:43] <gnomefreak> sorry
[12:44] <RobNyc> gnomefreak, from where
[12:44] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: sudo apt-get remove libgtk     << iirc
[12:44] <gnomefreak> RobNyc: the menu i cant remember off hand but in the control center i think
[12:44] <RobNyc> never heard of that
[12:45] <bachstudies> gnomefreak: sorry I don't quite understand!
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ok give me a few ill brb boot kde
[12:45] <bachstudies> sure
[12:45] <gnomefreak> bachstudies: libgtk is the base for all ubuntu/xubuntu stuff you remove it and it will remove all of the stuff kind of like libqt3-mt is for kubuntu
[12:45] <gnomefreak> brb
[12:46] <Raito> >	Help! I am compiling a program from source, (HuGo) There is no ./configure so I went right ahead and typed 'make' This is the error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16790
[12:47] <sensei> install sdl
[12:47] <Raito> sensei: What is sdl, and which one do I want? What package >_>
[12:47] <sensei> libsdl1.2-dev probably
[12:48] <sensei> SDL is Simple Directmedia Layer.. graphics library
[12:48] <arso> sensei
[12:48] <arso> i need help please
[12:48] <arso> with the partitioning
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ok im in there give me 2 secs
[12:49] <sensei> arso: If you expect me to read any backlogs or start guessing your issue, you're wrong
[12:49] <arso> backogs?
[12:49] <sensei> backlog.. scroll up and read what you've said earlier
[12:50] <arso> but i dont understand wat to do :(
[12:50] <sensei> State your problem
[12:51] <arso> i need to partition unpartitioned space into a ext3 partition
[12:51] <gnomefreak> i cant find it now :(
[12:51] <sensei> arso: install qtparted
[12:52] <sensei> It's point-and-click
[12:52] <arso> from the live cd?
[12:52] <sensei> Doesn' the installer run qtparted?
[12:52] <sensei> *can't remember even though I installed it for the first time last night*
[12:52] <gnomefreak> it runs parted wich is what qtparted is based on
[12:52] <gnomefreak> iirc
[12:53] <arso> so now
[12:53] <arso> i have my live cd in
[12:53] <arso> wat do i do
[12:53] <sensei> reboot
[12:53] <sensei> And enjoy
[12:53] <arso> ?
[12:53] <arso> wheres the part where i partition?
[12:53] <sensei> Do you see someting linuxish infront of you ?
[12:54] <arso> i AM in linux?
[12:54] <sensei> arso: Just boot the live cd, click the install icon on the desktop, and you'll see
[12:54] <sensei> It's easy
[12:54] <arso> so i'll have to pretend that iam installing it agin, and from there make the partitions?
[12:55] <sensei> Again?
[12:55] <arso> i already installed it permamently
[12:55] <arso> and have the root ext3 partition
[12:55] <arso> but my other old windows partitions are ntfs
[12:55] <sensei> haha man.. you're a classic already :)
[12:55] <arso> lol
[12:55] <arso> old problems huh
[12:55] <sensei> Screw the live cd, boot as normal, install qtparted, and take it from there
[12:56] <arso> umm do i get qtparted from adept?
[12:56] <sensei> Most likely, yea
[12:56] <sensei> Haven't used adept myself..
[12:57] <arso> oh ok
[12:57] <arso> hmm not getting any results from adept
[12:58] <arso> ok found one
[12:58] <arso> installing
[12:59] <arso> ok done
[12:59] <arso> so how do i run it
[12:59] <arso> alt f2 , qtparted?
[12:59] <sensei> Won't hurt to tr
[12:59] <sensei> y
[12:59] <arso> ya
[12:59] <arso> i get a msg
[12:59] <arso> no device found,maybe ur not using root user
[01:00] <arso> how do i 'use' root user
[01:00] <sensei> kdesu qtparted
[01:00] <arso> that did it
[01:01] <arso> hmm
[01:01] <arso> it only creates ext2,fat32,fat16 and linux swipe
[01:01] <arso> wat about ext3??
[01:01] <sensei> Go with ext2, you can convert it later
[01:01] <arso> without data lo0ss?
[01:02] <sensei> Or just blank it and then run mkfs.ext3 from a console
[01:02] <sensei> The data will be lost no matter
[01:02] <arso> blank it? its unpartitioned data
[01:02] <arso> i need to create this unpartitioned data into ext3
[01:02] <sensei> It already IS partitioned?
[01:02] <arso> noo
[01:02] <arso> its unpartitioned
[01:02] <sensei> So it's blank free space?
[01:02] <arso> yes
[01:03] <arso> should we make it ext2 then use mkfs.ext3
[01:03] <sensei> That sounds like overkill.. just use mkfs.ext3
[01:03] <arso> ok
[01:03] <sensei> Skip qtparted.. I was under the impression that you had to partition the disk
[01:03] <arso> how do i select the hard disk, i have 3 hardidsks
[01:04] <arso> ya partition unpartitioned space ina disk that has 2 other partitions
[01:04] <sensei> Get your terminology straight
[01:04] <arso> sorry , newbie :S
[01:04] <arso> so i hope u understand wat i need now?
[01:04] <arso> the unpartitioned space is on hdD
[01:04] <sensei> If you have free and blank space as in no fs on it.. and you want to keep the size etc.. just use mkfs.ext3
[01:04] <arso> ok
[01:05] <sensei> Ok.. so do fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[01:05] <arso> ok did that
[01:05] <arso> now from here?
[01:05] <sensei> Erm, you skiped the  I suppose :)
[01:05] <sensei> 
[01:05] <arso> no
[01:06] <arso> i copy pasted
[01:06] <sensei> Ok.. are you in a terminal?
[01:06] <arso> yes
[01:06] <arso> with the result from "fdisk -l /dev/hdd"
[01:06] <sensei> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdd
[01:06] <arso> ok i am there
[01:07] <sensei> What does it say?
[01:07] <arso> can i paste here?
[01:07] <arso>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:07] <arso> /dev/hdd1               2        1181     9478350    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[01:07] <arso> /dev/hdd2   *        1182        4865    29591730   83  Linux
[01:07] <arso> /dev/hdd5            1022        1181     1285168+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:07] <sensei> That's it?
[01:08] <arso> yes
[01:08] <sensei> Where's the blank space?
[01:08] <arso> umm hdd1?
[01:08] <sensei> OK.. heh go for it then.. mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1
[01:08] <arso> its a 40gb theres a 29gb root 1.5gb swap and the rest is free,
[01:09] <sensei> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda1
[01:09] <arso> omg
[01:09] <arso> dude
[01:09] <arso> hdD not A
[01:09] <sensei> Yeah, just replace.. never mind :)
[01:09] <Raito> Does anyone know what this error is (I am compiling a program from source) > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16793
[01:09] <arso> zomg
[01:09] <jofko> i made it, just install my ATI Radeon x600 :)
[01:10] <arso> u sound proud :)
[01:10] <jofko> im
[01:10] <sensei> Congrats jofko
[01:10] <arso> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[01:10] <arso> /dev/hdd1: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up superblock
[01:10] <sensei> Raito: Actually, that looks like a programming err
[01:11] <jerry> hi
[01:11] <arso> sensei:  thats wat i get when i try mkfs
[01:12] <BoSJo> All: Hi was installing via Adept, Adept hwas hanging for a looooong time so had to kill it. Now i cant use it to un or install anymore. Someother other application is using the database, please quit the other program first
[01:12] <sensei> arso: hmkay
[01:13] <sensei> arso: Try mkfs.ext2 /dev/hdd1 then
[01:13] <Raito> dang, everyone says its bad code T_T
[01:14] <arso> ok
[01:14] <arso> umm access denied
[01:14] <arso> i'll add a sudo
[01:14] <sensei> That was implied :)
[01:14] <arso> mke2fs 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[01:14] <arso> /dev/hdd1: Invalid argument passed to ext2 library while setting up superblock
[01:14] <arso> same error
[01:15] <Raito> You know I am thinking of switching to Debian, then I won't have all these problems with compiling >_>
[01:15] <arso> wats the difference between ext2 and 3 anyway, major?
[01:15] <sensei> arso: ext3 is a journaling filesystem
[01:16] <sensei> It keeps track of changes and is more resistent at crashes
[01:16] <sensei> Raito: That error will appear no matter where you try to compile it
[01:16] <arso> so u dont recommend ext2
[01:16] <Raito> sensei: debian has a package for it >_>
[01:16] <sensei> Raito: The only thing you could do is try another compiler, even though it's not likely to do any good since few or no compilers "support" double declaration
[01:17] <sensei> arso: Not really
[01:17] <arso> sensei:  so how are we gonna do it ext3?
[01:17] <sensei> Actually, I don't know what's causing that..
[01:18] <arso> hmm
[01:18] <sensei> arso: Try qtparted again, and create an ext2 partition
[01:18] <arso> ok
[01:18] <sensei> There's something about writing at the first few cylinders of a disk and shite like that that I've forgotten now
[01:18] <sensei> Then it's a slim thing to convert from ext2 to 3
[01:18] <arso> ok then good
[01:18] <arso> i am partitioning now
[01:19] <arso> or watever the right terminology is :P
[01:19] <sensei> Formating
[01:19] <arso> i see
[01:19] <arso> ok done
[01:20] <sensei> Try and mount it, see if it works
[01:20] <arso> "only root can mount, check its plugged in"
[01:20] <arso> how do i 'sign in'as root
[01:20] <sensei> still sudo
[01:21] <arso> umm when i tried to mount i did  it graphically
[01:21] <arso> wats the command please?
[01:21] <arso> its hdd6 that i want to mount
[01:21] <sensei> sudo mkdir /test
[01:21] <sensei> sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd1 /test
[01:22] <sensei> Ah, replace 1 with 6 then
[01:22] <arso> hmm nothing happenedd and when i try to open it same error from before
[01:22] <arso> only root can mount
[01:23] <sensei> sudo
[01:23] <arso> should we try to make it ext3 first?
[01:23] <sensei> No
[01:23] <RobNyc> how can i install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=41555
[01:23] <sensei> arso: You forgot the sudo, didn't you?
[01:24] <arso> no
[01:24] <arso> " sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/hdd6 /test"
[01:24] <arso> right?
[01:24] <sensei> Yes
[01:24] <sensei> That said 'only root can..' ?
[01:25] <arso> mount: mount point /test does not exist
[01:25] <sensei> 01:19 < sensei> sudo mkdir /test
[01:25] <arso> ok?
[01:25] <sensei> Now try the other command again
[01:26] <arso> WE are in :D:D
[01:26] <arso> ur da man ;)
[01:27] <sensei> So, it's ext2 and mounts OK.. now unmount it
[01:27] <sensei> sudo umount /dev/hdd1
[01:27] <arso> 6
[01:27] <arso> ok
[01:27] <arso> ok done
[01:27] <arso> its unmounted
[01:27] <sensei> tune2fs -j /dev/hdd1
[01:27] <sensei> sudo first as usual
[01:27] <arso> and replace 1 with 6
[01:28] <sensei> Yes
[01:28] <sensei> Old habits die hard :)
[01:28] <edison> hi everyone, can enyone help me
[01:28] <arso> ok done, now its ext3?
[01:28] <edison> i have a sound problem
[01:28] <sensei> arso: Try and mount it with: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd6 /test
[01:28] <edison> a few days ago i had sound now i dont, what could be the problem?
[01:29] <arso> ya i can access it
[01:29] <sensei> arso: There you go
[01:29] <arso> its ext3?
[01:29] <sensei> Yepp
[01:29] <arso> :D ur good ;)
[01:29] <arso> hey how can i save this whole log?
[01:29] <arso> copy paste?
[01:29] <bioticpro> hey yall, Im looking to make my middle mouse wheel click, be mapped to a keyboard action for all programs, including desktop, how would I do this?
[01:29] <arso> coz i have 5 more partitions to go lol, gotta free them in windows first, and delete partition
[01:30] <sensei> arso: You won't have to do all the steps on each disk.. Basically it's just create ext2 in qtparted, and then sudo tune2fs -j /dev/hddWHATEVER
[01:30] <sensei> The mounting thing in between was just to check that everything had gone as it should
[01:31] <arso> oh  i see, thank god
[01:31] <sensei> hehe
[01:31] <arso> lol
[01:31] <arso> good
[01:31] <arso> and wats the command to mount please?
[01:31] <lin0x> hi. i bought the game X2: The Threat. i've been playing the game for a some time in my windows machine. i'm just wondering if i can play it on linux too.
[01:31] <sensei> sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd6 /mountpoint
[01:31] <sensei> Where mountpoint is a directory that you create yourself with: sudo mkdir /mountpoint
[01:31] <sensei> It can be whatever
[01:32] <edison> so can anyone help me with my audio prob?? please
[01:32] <lin0x> any clues?
[01:32] <sensei> lin0x: Not likely, there's cedega, a windows direct3d emulator
[01:32] <sensei> But that usually means performance loss
[01:33] <sensei> And it's far from guaranteed to work
[01:33] <arso> and u gott\
[01:33] <arso> gotta pay**
[01:33] <RawSewage> how do you disable the popup message in Konqueror when an ad is blocked
[01:34] <lin0x> sensei: i think there is a linux version. just wondering if it is in the same cd.. like unreal tournament 2004.
[01:34] <arso> sensei:  wast the difference between kdesu and sudo
[01:34] <sensei> edison: What happens if you try to play a sound?
[01:34] <sensei> arso: kdesu brings you the dialog.. apart from that, nothing
[01:34] <edison> i cant heard anything! but i log in my windows sessions and sounds work
[01:34] <arso>  i see , thanx  a lot for ur help
[01:34] <TheHighChild> edison: Is it all sounds or specific applications?
[01:34] <sensei> lin0x: Aah ok, yeah then you'll most likely be able to play it :)
[01:34] <arso> i really appreciate it
[01:34] <edison> all sounds
[01:34] <sensei> arso: Any time
[01:34] <fiya_werkin> hey guys does anyone use amarok to rip their cds?
[01:34] <RobNyc> wheres kubuntu theme manager?
[01:35] <arso> this formatting problem was my last problem after a day of problems
[01:35] <sensei> edison: Okay.. in a console, try aplay /any/wav/fileyoucanfind
[01:35] <edison> a few days ago sound worked but now it dosnt
[01:35] <arso> sensei:  thank u and goodbye, i am going to windows now,bye
[01:35] <mcrandello> RobNyc: try kcontrol under appearance
[01:35] <sensei> RobNyc: Try alt+f2 and type kcontrol
[01:35] <sensei> arso: Have fun :)
[01:35] <TheHighChild> edison: open up kmix and make sure 'master volume' and 'pcm' are enabled
[01:35] <RobNyc> mcrandello, sensei and then
[01:35] <RobNyc> theres no theme manager tho
[01:35] <sensei> RobNyc: Then stop being lazy and look for more than 2 seconds ;)
[01:35] <ralph> Hello All!  Can anyone tell me if the Dapper repository would have all the Perl modules?  A developer at work sent me a Perl script and it is asking for the Time:: module.  Can't seem to search for it using Synaptic
[01:36] <RobNyc> sensei, i've spend 30mins already
[01:36] <edison> master volume is 100%
[01:36] <mcrandello> It's not under "appearance and themes"?
[01:36] <edison> and i try amarok to play a sound and didnt work
[01:36] <sensei> RobNyc: You've looked at the kcontrol program for 30 minutes and not seen the theme thing?
[01:36] <RobNyc> exactly
[01:36] <sensei> edison: Does aplay work?
[01:37] <edison> no
[01:37] <sensei> RobNyc: Then you have my condoleances
[01:37] <edison> a play a movie u mean? or another thing?
[01:37] <RobNyc> sensei, lol
[01:37] <sensei> edison: No, a console command.. aplay
[01:37] <edison> no i havent try
[01:37] <edison> what do i do?
[01:37] <mcrandello> RobNyc: not the "system settings" menu item, that's rubbish
[01:38] <sensei> RobNyc: Appearence & Themes. Click the + sign or w/e icon you may have, then look at the entry second from the bottom in the list and read it out loud three times
[01:38] <sensei> edison: Open a terminal and type: aplay /path/to/any/wavfile
[01:39] <edison> nothing
[01:40] <RobNyc> sensei, styles styles styles
[01:40] <sensei> edison: No error messages?
[01:40] <RobNyc> but where is the INSTALL STYLES
[01:40] <edison> let me try again
[01:40] <RobNyc> im installing some more kde extra stuff from repository maybe that will do it
[01:41] <RobNyc> gnome is so easy to theme
[01:41] <mcrandello> help->about kde
[01:41] <mcrandello> what version of K you got RobNyc
[01:41] <edison> i think im not writing the valid path
[01:41] <RobNyc> 3.5.2 and just did an upgrade to 3.5.3
[01:42] <sensei> edison: slocate *.wav
[01:42] <sensei> Just pick any from there and aplay it
[01:42] <mcrandello> RobNyc: try doing a search in the search bar at the top for "manager"
[01:42] <johnny3d> has anyone had success getting the java md3 viewer to run?
[01:42] <m_tadeu> anyone here knows how to deal with SynCE?
[01:42] <edison> aplay/usr/lib/openoffice/share/gallery/sounds/strom.wav???
[01:43] <edison> i try this and dosnt work
[01:43] <mcrandello> if it's not there as the last item then maybe it's in whatever you're about to install :)
[01:43] <RobNyc> brb
[01:43] <sensei> First of all, 'doesn't work' is a sucky description... second, remove the ??? and add a space between aplay and the path
[01:44] <bioticpro> Is it possible to custom map mouse buttons universally in kde?  If so how?
[01:45] <edison> ok
[01:45] <edison>  Signed 16 bi t Little Endian, Ratio 11025 Hz, Mono
[01:45] <sensei> Instead of 'doesn't work'.. are there any error messaes? Does it seem like it's playing, but no sound comes out? Is the sound there but noisy? Etc..
[01:46] <sensei> edison: Ok, that's better.. Have you ran alsaconf ?
[01:46] <edison> it says:  Signed 16 bi t Little Endian, Ratio 11025 Hz, Mono
[01:46] <edison> nope
[01:46] <sensei> Try it
[01:46] <sensei> sudo alsaconf
[01:46] <crimsun> we don't ship alsaconf.
[01:47] <edison> sorry, is just that my english is not very good, i speak spanish
[01:47] <sensei> :O ops
[01:47] <edison> alsaconf? no, havent try it
[01:47] <sensei> edison: Never mind that, it's not a part of kubuntu apparently
[01:48] <edison> ok no prob
[01:48] <crimsun> edison: pastebin ``cat /proc/asound/cards /etc/asound.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[01:48] <sensei> Try turning *Everything* in alsamixer up
[01:48] <sensei> Even PCM and all of that
[01:49] <fiya_werkin> do different cd rippers rip faster or slower? Like I'm using kcdcreator now
[01:50] <edison> i try that but didnt work, and the command u told says:
[01:50] <edison> 0 [ICH5           ] : ICH4 - Intel ICH5
[01:50] <edison>                      Intel ICH5 with AD1985 at 0xfebff800, irq 201
[01:50] <edison> cat: /etc/asound.conf: No existe el fichero  directorio
[01:50] <edison> cat: /home/edison/.asoundrc*: No existe el fichero  directorio
[01:50] <fiya_werkin> !pastebin
[01:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:50] <edison> the file or directory dosnt exit
[01:51] <edison> is the spanish part
[01:51] <johnny3d> why, when I run certain programs, do i get, 'cannot convert language to en US'?
[01:51] <eimajenthat> howdy howdy
[01:51] <eimajenthat> !mp3
[01:51] <sensei> edison: Check your volumes first
[01:51] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:51] <sensei> Not just 'master'
[01:52] <crimsun> edison: I need the output from ``amixer''
[01:53] <edison> and with that u mean??
[01:55] <eimajenthat> hi, I'm reading the helpful page ubotu just gave me about restricted formats, and it says how to set them up, but it mostly recommends gstreamer plugins.  Aren't those mostly for Gnome applications?  Are they what I need for Kubuntu?
[01:56] <crimsun> you need libxine-extracodecs for Amarok by default.
[01:56] <sensei> edison: Run the command 'amixer' and paste the result in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:56] <GNULinuxGeek> Hello again all
[01:57] <eimajenthat> does Amarok use the xine engine?
[01:57] <GNULinuxGeek> I can't get the Time:: Perl module from the Dapper repository.  Ideas??
[01:57] <sensei> GNULinuxGeek: cpan it
[01:57] <GNULinuxGeek> I will give that a shot
[01:57] <crimsun> eimajenthat: by default, yes
[01:58] <edison> ok
[01:58] <edison> done
[01:58] <crimsun> url?
[01:59] <johnny3d> error, 'could not change language to en_US'
[02:00] <eimajenthat> crimsun: same w/ Kaffeine, I think, right?  I searched adept for libxine-extracodecs, and found nothing.  I have universe and PLF in my sources.list, is it elsewhere?
[02:00] <crimsun> eimajenthat: libxine-extracodecs requires both universe and mulitverse.
[02:00] <crimsun> multiverse^
[02:02] <sensei> crimsun: Maybe you can tell me why, no matter for how long I record with arecord, the output file is empty?
[02:02] <sensei> And I can't get my usb mic to work
[02:02] <fiya_werkin> how can you verify the quality of an ogg file? is 192kbps ogg good?
[02:02] <crimsun> fiya_werkin: whatever sounds tolerable for your target audience.
[02:03] <crimsun> sensei: did you configure Capture correctly?
[02:03] <sensei> fiya_werkin: 'file' gives you the quality if that's what you meant
[02:03] <fiya_werkin> crimsun: kind of hard to test it hehe
[02:03] <eimajenthat> crimsun: cool beans, on a slightly related note, when I do apt-get update, I have 3 GPG errors, no idea how to make them happy.  I'll pastebin them if you don't mind taking a look.
[02:03] <crimsun> fiya_werkin: your question's not exactly phrased to give an "easy" answer
[02:03] <fiya_werkin> hm
[02:04] <fiya_werkin> well i mean how does that compare to an mp3?
[02:04] <fiya_werkin> 01 - Invisible Man.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~192000 bps, created by: Xiph.Org libVorbis I
[02:04] <edison> i alredy paste averything, now whats the next step? sensei
[02:04] <crimsun> edison: you didn't tell us the URL
[02:04] <sensei> crimsun: Honesly, I don't really know.. I tried alsamixer -c 2 (the usb mic is card 2 in proc asound cards), but it says it has no mixer, which I guess is understandable
[02:04] <edison> sorry, opps
[02:04] <edison> lol
[02:04] <edison> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16796
[02:04] <crimsun> sensei: card2? You have three sound devices?
[02:05] <sensei> crimsun: Yeah.. my modem has one, for some reason
[02:05] <crimsun> sensei: are you using -25.43?
[02:05] <edison> thats the url
[02:06] <sensei> crimsun: What do you mean?
[02:06] <crimsun> sensei: uname -r
[02:06] <crimsun> edison: ok, second
[02:06] <sensei> Oh -25
[02:06] <edison> ok thanks
[02:06] <edison> thnaks for the help guys
[02:06] <gnomefreak> he means are you using kernel 2.6.15-25
[02:06] <crimsun> sensei: and /proc/asound/devices?
[02:08] <sensei> Just a second, my dns server has decided to go suryp on me
[02:08] <crimsun> edison: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0 && amixer set 'IEC958' off
[02:09] <edison> and that means??
[02:10] <sensei> http://northernmost.org/gah.txt
[02:10] <edison> do i paste that? or something else?
  Got the module and can't run make.  Tells me make is "not found".  Gues I need to get that from Ubuntu Dapper repository,
[02:10] <crimsun> edison: that's a command. Paste it exactly.
[02:11] <edison> done
[02:11] <sensei> GNULinuxGeek: Most likely, yes :)
[02:11] <crimsun> edison: now play some music.
[02:11] <edison> nothing....=(
[02:11] <sensei> crimsun: That's instead of pastebin http://northernmost.org/gah.txt
[02:13] <edison> but the weird thing is that in my windows session sounds works
[02:14] <edison> and i havent change anything
[02:14] <crimsun> edison: is this a laptop?
[02:14] <edison> nope, desktop
[02:14] <crimsun> ok, try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[02:14] <dfbd> Question: i am dual booting windows and kubutnu on my machine but for some reason i am getting different IP address assigned for each operating system. Is it possible to ge the same IP for both?
[02:15] <edison> done
[02:15] <edison> but nothing
[02:15] <fiya_werkin> with kcdcreator, is it bad to encode more than one file at a time?
[02:15] <sensei> dfbd: You can edit the lease file and hope for the best, even though ips are strictly in the power of the dhcp server
[02:16] <fiya_werkin> sensei: couldn't he just set his ip's static?
[02:16] <sensei> fiya_werkin: If he owns the dhcp server or his ISP supports it, surely
[02:16] <fiya_werkin> sensei: oh, right, im used to assuming everyone uses a router now :)
[02:17] <fiya_werkin> dfbd: are you behind a router?
[02:17] <sensei> You mean a "router" ;)
[02:17] <fiya_werkin> well, right
[02:17] <dfbd> no, but i do have a spare router sitting around
[02:17] <dfbd> should i plug that in
[02:17] <dfbd> ?
[02:17] <sensei> That would most likely give you the chance to statically set your internal ips
[02:17] <fiya_werkin> so you're getting separate ip's from your isp each time?
[02:17] <dfbd> yes, that is correct
[02:18] <fiya_werkin> dfbd: well, here's a question, if you're not behind a router, you're not doing port forwarding, why do you need the same ip?
 Got make, and the script doesn't work.  However, it doesn't work the same as it doesn't at the office.
[02:19] <dfbd> well because for some reason the IP assigned to my kubuntu setup is not allowed in a certain chatsite i visit
[02:19] <edison> =9
[02:19] <dfbd> so i am forced to use windows
[02:19] <edison> =)
[02:19] <crimsun> edison: ok, try: amixer set 'Line Jack Sense' off && amixer set 'Headphone Jack Sense' off
[02:19] <crimsun> I bet it's the Line Jack Sense
[02:20] <sensei> dfbd: Then go with the router, or try fiddling with the lease file if the router thing means additional problems
[02:20] <fiya_werkin> dfbd: i'd go with the router also, even just for some added security when in windows
[02:20] <dfbd> can you direct me wher i can find info about the lease file
[02:20] <edison> dude u r the BESTTTTTTTTTTTT
[02:20] <dfbd> i m fairly ne wto linux
[02:20] <edison> now it workssssssssssss
[02:20] <edison> thankssssssssssssssss
[02:20] <edison> but my mic sounds at the background
[02:21] <sensei> dfbd: /var/lib/dcp3/
[02:21] <dfbd> ok
[02:21] <sensei> Edit the file corresponding to your external card and change the ip. Make sure to drop the ip first
[02:21] <crimsun> edison: amixer set 'Mic' off && amixer set 'Mic Boost (+20dB)' off
[02:21] <edison> amixer set 'Mic' off && amixer set 'Mic Boost (+20dB)' off
[02:22] <crimsun> edison: yes, in a Konsole, not here on irc.
[02:22] <edison> man u r rhe BEST
[02:22] <edison> sorry
[02:22] <edison> lol
[02:22] <dfbd> ok thanks let me try that
[02:22] <edison> thanks for th big help
[02:22] <edison> but what was he prob??
[02:22] <edison> the prob?
[02:23] <crimsun> edison: 'Line Jack Sense'
[02:23] <crimsun> edison: pastebin your lspci -nv, and I'll blacklist your entry for the next kernel.
[02:23] <edison> ohhhhhhhhh..... =)
[02:23] <edison> ehhh what??
[02:24] <edison> didnt get that one
[02:24] <crimsun> ``lspci -nv''
[02:24] <edison> what do i have to do?
[02:24] <crimsun> paste the output onto http://pastebin.ca
[02:25] <edison> and whats that for??
[02:27] <sensei> crimsun: Did you have an idea on my issue?
[02:28] <crimsun> sensei: I'm not good at multitasking. Please be patient.
[02:28] <crimsun> edison: I need the URL
[02:28] <sensei> Absolutely
[02:28] <edison> is done, i alredy paste the result
[02:28] <edison> http://pastebin.ca/75275
[02:29] <crimsun> edison: what is what for?
[02:29] <driz> questio, would a normal Ubuntu ISO be able to work with a tablet PC?
[02:29] <edison> the pastebin thing i did a few moment ago
[02:29] <crimsun> edison: I need the 401 value for the kernel
[02:30] <edison> the what?
[02:30] <edison> lspci -nv????
[02:30] <crimsun> edison: that output has the value I need
[02:30] <sensei> edison: You're being hijacked ;)
[02:30] <edison> WHAT????
[02:30] <sensei> Hehe just kidding
[02:31] <edison> ufffffff
[02:31] <edison> lol
[02:31] <sensei> Gotcha ;)
[02:31] <edison> lol
[02:31] <edison> what do u need?
[02:33] <crimsun> edison: now, ``tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat''
[02:33] <edison> Mixers:
[02:33] <edison> 0: Analog Devices AD1985
[02:34] <chrisn> Wondering if anyone knows how to get Konqueror to display website fonts correctly (I have installed the MS corefonts already).  It works in firefox.
[02:34] <edison> what else do u need?
[02:35] <crimsun> that's all, thanks.
[02:36] <edison> no, thank u very much for the help
[02:36] <edison> what is this for: tail -2 /proc/asound/oss/sndstat???
[02:37] <crimsun> I needed the codec.
[02:38] <crimsun> sensei: yes.
[02:38] <edison> =)
[02:39] <chrisn> Wondering if anyone knows how to get Konqueror to display website fonts correctly (I have installed the MS corefonts already).  It works in firefox.
[02:39] <edison> well guys thanks again for the help! crimsun u rock and sensei thank u too
[02:40] <edison> cya next time i hope
[02:40] <sensei> Glad he could help :)
[02:40] <edison> lol
[02:40] <tobberoth_> Is there any good program to convert .flac to .mp3 for KDE?
[02:40] <edison> =)
[02:40] <crimsun> edison: I'll need your real name to credit you in the changelog
[02:41] <crimsun> edison: & e-mail address
[02:41] <crimsun> edison: send in private if you feel uncomfortable doing it publicly
[02:41] <edison> ejem2005@gmail.com
[02:42] <crimsun> err, you're not identified, so I suppose public will have to suffice
[02:43] <edison_> well guys got to go, cya
[02:47] <pussfeller> does beagled have probs with indexing usb drives?
[02:48] <qalimas> I've got everything working fine on my laptop with the latest KDE everything, I've got everything setup the way I want and everything.. so now I'm bored, what kind of sites can I go to to get some ideas of things to play around with (but not break anything, I do need the laptop to work :P)
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> I ususally go to kde-look.org or just surf around the the control center.
[02:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> also kde-apps.org
[02:48] <fiya_werkin> !firefox
[02:48] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[02:49] <qalimas> Cheseburgerman: I've done all that already xd
[02:51] <sensei> qalimas: Learn a language?
[02:51] <qalimas> ive learned php and a bit of python, but i want to wait until college, right now my patience is short with learning to drive XD
[02:52] <KinGetana> Hi, i was wondering, how can i get the quality information of the music and videofiles? such as avis and vobs etc. mediaplayer was great in winXP, but i doubt if it'll work on dapper.. ?
[02:52] <KinGetana> any mediainfo, i meant to say
[02:52] <crimsun> sensei: I'm in a phone conf; I'll read the paste soon
[02:52] <sensei> Why wait until college? Free points rocks. Anyways, you could always start doing some work :) Like translating software or whatever
[02:52] <sensei> crimsun: Okay, no problems :)
[02:53] <KinGetana> -any, sorry, weird typos takin' over
[02:53] <jolmash> hello all, can someone help me on configure php5 as cgi in apache2? please! I have php4 as module
[02:53] <fiya_werkin> KinGetana: for my oggs if i type 'file <filename>' it shows the bitrate and whatnot
[02:53] <Loth77> Hello everybody :)
[02:54] <sensei> KinGetana: What kind of info ?
[02:54] <KinGetana> bitrates and such
[02:54] <Loth77> i'm gonna try to install XGL on my Kubuntu... has anybody done that with success...?
[02:54] <sensei> KinGetana: 'file' shows a little, and mplayer shows the rest
[02:54] <KinGetana> fiya_werkin: shoul i type that in console or commandpanel?
[02:54] <OOD> i've tried multiple times and failed every time
[02:54] <fiya_werkin> KinGetana: try it in a console
[02:54] <jolmash> I found this tutorial -> http://www.howtoforge.com/apache2_with_php5_and_php4: I followed only the part where php4 is configured to run as cgi, but I configure php5, but it doesn't work
[02:55] <Loth77> should i give up before making a mess...?
[02:55] <KinGetana> thanks alot, much appriciated :)
[02:55] <KinGetana> -typos, as always ;)
[02:55] <fiya_werkin> KinGetana: try just holding your mouse over a file in konquerer
[02:55] <fiya_werkin> you get a popup with the same info it seems
[02:55] <OOD> Loth77: xgl is experimental software, but if you know how to reverse the potential damage you can make tryiing to install then go ahead
[02:55] <sensei> OOD: Have I lost a line, or did you just type in the wrong window?
[02:55] <fiya_werkin> nm, that doesn't show bitrate
[02:56] <fiya_werkin> file does
[02:56] <KinGetana> hmm, i'll try each, and see what's the most accurad :)
[02:56] <Loth77> yes... i know how to go back.... i have just done an image of my Kubuntu partition ;)
[02:56] <Loth77> ready to restore it :)
[02:56] <OOD> that's even better ;)
[02:56] <OOD> don't get your hopes up though, chances are it won't work
[02:57] <fiya_werkin> KinGetana: you can use wildcards too, like type "file *.ogg"
[02:57] <Loth77> i don't know what guide follow.... there are so many... i had success already once with Ubuntu and gnome... but i don't like gnome
[02:57] <Loth77> anyway... the cube was great and smooth... system was super fast
[02:57] <sensei> fiya_werkin: Are you sure bitrate shows up for videos with 'file'? I have no chance of testing it myself atm :/
[02:57] <Loth77> but gnome.... :(
[02:57] <KinGetana> i'll get the mplayer at least, can that be loaded via sudo apt-get install?
[02:57] <OOD> Loth77: check out compiz.net , there's a bunch of ways to install xgl
[02:58] <jolmash> please, some guide to configure php5 as cgi?
[02:58] <sensei> KinGetana: yes
[02:58] <Loth77> oki
[02:58] <sensei> jolmash: You could try another channel.. #apache perhaps ?
[02:58] <jolmash> ok, thanks
[02:58] <ubuntu> umm..do you know where i could get help with kubuntu?
[02:58] <sabaal> Hello everyone.
[02:58] <sensei> It doesn't necessarely have to be kubuntu specific
[02:58] <jolmash> sensei: thanks
[02:58] <sensei> np
[02:58] <fiya_werkin> sensei: not positive if it does for vids
[02:58] <OOD> ubuntu: right here :D
[02:58] <fiya_werkin> sensei: would think it does, one way to find out :)
[02:58] <sabaal> ubuntu: Thi sis the place. ;)
[02:58] <ubuntu> how do you change the resolution of the monitor?
[02:59] <KinGetana> sensei and all the others, a big thanks to all of you o/ i'll go now and test what works best
[02:59] <OOD> kmenu->system settings->display
[02:59] <sensei> Have fun KinGetana
[02:59] <KinGetana> u bet :D
[03:00] <sabaal> Alright, I'm getting some browser complaints about PHP and MySQL. Before I  go into it further, is it common that these don't work?
[03:01] <sabaal> Seems like I have all the tough questions. Whenever I ask one, it gets all quiet in here. :P
[03:01] <sensei> sabaal: Depends on who's installing and setting it up :)
[03:01] <sabaal> sensei: I don't really have any idea what PHP or MySQL are. Let me find an example of the problem...
[03:02] <sensei> PHP is a scripting language for the web, and MySQL is a database
[03:02] <sabaal> Ah, well, that's simple. :P
[03:02] <sensei> I'm curious about why your browser would complain about that :) That's transparent to the browser
[03:02] <sabaal> Anyway, when I try to access http://www.irrforge.org/ from any browser, it gives me...
[03:03] <sabaal> "MySQL functions missing, have you compiled PHP with the --with-mysql option?"
[03:03] <fiya_werkin> that's a problem on their end
[03:03] <OOD> yea
[03:03] <OOD> you're fine :)
[03:03] <sabaal> Well, I would've thought so too, but that's not the only site that's giving me grief.
[03:03] <sensei> Sysadmins suck ;)
[03:04] <fiya_werkin> google even has a cache of that error
[03:04] <fiya_werkin> it's definately not you :)
[03:04] <ubuntu> help, i am stuck on 640x480 and the display button resolution thing wont move to the right
[03:04] <sabaal> Oh, well, that makes me feel better.
[03:04] <fiya_werkin> well, it's "you" in the fact that you have bad luck in choosing sites to visit :)
[03:04] <sabaal> ubuntu: How awkward. You might need to alter your x11 config file.
[03:04] <sensei> ubuntu: Ouch, what driver are you using? And what graphics card have you got?
[03:04] <ubuntu> I just got a livecd in the mail T_T
[03:05] <sabaal> fiya_werkin: I guess that leaves me out of luck, because the two places that are giving me this crap are the places I'm looking for a particular tutorial. :P
[03:05] <fiya_werkin> hope it's not a tutorial on running web servers
[03:06] <ubuntu> NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Graphics. How do I change the x11 config file?
[03:06] <sensei> !nvidia
[03:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:06] <sabaal> No, no. I would probably drown in the irony of it if it were.
[03:06] <sabaal> I don't suppose anyone here has experience with orthogonal rendering in Irrlight?
[03:06] <eimajenthat> !pastebin
[03:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:07] <sabaal> Yeah, I didn't think so. :P
[03:07] <OOD> lol
[03:07] <sabaal> Well, back to guesswork. Thanks for the confirmation of my own competence.
[03:08] <eimajenthat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16801
[03:08] <eimajenthat> how do I make the GPGs not be mad at me?
[03:08] <sabaal> I'm just a little irritated that I installed about 30MB of stuff with "PHP" and "SQL" in its name before I thought to come here. :P
[03:08] <sensei> hehe
[03:08] <sensei> lol
[03:08] <sensei> sry
[03:09] <fiya_werkin> sensei
[03:09] <fiya_werkin> if you did it via apt, look for a tool called debfoster, it's made my life _much_ easier
[03:09] <fiya_werkin> er, sorry wrong person, sabaal i meant
[03:10] <fiya_werkin> sabaal: lets you uninstall packages and groups of packages that you've installed, its nice when playign the guessing game :)
[03:10] <KinGetana> hmm.. should the mpalyer be found with katapult after the get install- prosess?
[03:10] <eimajenthat> fiya_werkin: what's it do?
[03:10] <fito> im trying to compile somthing and i get this error: configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2 and < 4.0) (headers and libra  ries) not found. Please check your installation i already installed buil-essential...
[03:10] <sabaal> fiya_werkin: Sounds useful. Thanks for the tip. :D
[03:10] <fiya_werkin> !debfoster
[03:10] <ubotu> debfoster is a command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/
[03:10] <eimajenthat> sweet
[03:10] <KinGetana> --player, damn it.. typo is murder
[03:10] <OOD> fito: you need qt dev files
[03:10] <eimajenthat> !katapult
[03:10] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[03:10] <sabaal> KinGetana: I've always had to restart Katapult before it picks up new apps.
[03:11] <sabaal> Oh, wow! I never knew about Alt+F2.
[03:11] <fiya_werkin> im not sure if aptitude will uninstall things you install with apt-get group wise, that's why i like debfoster
[03:11] <element> anyone here have experience with 64bit kubuntu?  I'm considering it as my next OS (I'm becoming an ex-windoze user)
[03:11] <fiya_werkin> i'm still not used to typing aptitude, i do apt-get all the time
[03:12] <eimajenthat> katapult is creepy
[03:12] <sabaal> How so?
[03:12] <OOD> katapult's awesome
[03:12] <OOD> i use it all the time
[03:12] <element> anyone?
[03:12] <sabaal> element: Sorry. I don't even know what the difference is. :P
[03:12] <sensei> Eh.. katapult sounds very overkill to me
[03:12] <OOD> element: if you're not familiar with linux i'd recomend you go 32-bit first
[03:13] <eimajenthat> I dunno, it's just odd.  Not sure I see the advantage of katapult over ALT+F2
[03:13] <eimajenthat> nifty graphics, though
[03:13] <sensei> But I'm sure it has some nifty features I don't know of
[03:13] <element> OOD, I've been a linux users for years, but mainly just on the server level
[03:13] <sabaal> It works as a quick calculator. :D
[03:13] <element> OOD, I used to run Gentoo on my system too
[03:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> eimajenthat: Does Alt+F2 do bookmarks, calc, and amarok library? ;)
[03:13] <fito> aww man, more dev files...eew. oh well, of to more downloading
[03:13] <OOD> well then i'd say go ahead
[03:13] <element> are there enough drivers for it? any major problems with it?
[03:14] <OOD> 64-bit has some problems that are hard to work out for first users, like installing flash or getting wine to run and things like that
[03:14] <sensei> But why won't katapult run all programs?
[03:14] <eimajenthat> CheeseBurgerMan: that much efficiency hurts my brain
[03:14] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:14] <sensei> Nah, I'll stay away from it
[03:14] <larson9999> element: from what i've heard the support for 64 isn't so good.
[03:15] <element> I'll go 32bit then first
[03:15] <sabaal> sensei: Because it's designed to interpret things casually. It figures out what you want, even if it's not exactly the same as what you type.
[03:15] <larson9999> OOD: someone just told me there wasn't flash for 64-bit linux.  is there?
[03:15] <sabaal> sensei: And if there were too many options on its list, it would go crazy.
[03:15] <OOD> there aren't a lot of programs in the repository for 64-bit so you'd have to compile it on your own
[03:15] <sabaal> sensei: I'm assuming you can add more, but I've never tried.
[03:15] <sensei> Ah, hm.. heh I usually know what I want when I start typing :) Not for me then
[03:15] <OOD> lasron9999: no there isn't
[03:15] <element> how is dual monitors for kubuntu?
[03:15] <sabaal> Fair enough.
[03:16] <element> is it easy to setup?
[03:16] <DaSkreech> n8?
[03:16] <eimajenthat> larson9999: that's right, but there's some open source flash-replacements, they're kinda experimental
[03:16] <CheeseBurgerMan> larson9999: I have flash on my amd64. Flock automagically installed it. :)
[03:17] <eimajenthat> but at least they exist
[03:17] <OOD> larson9999: you'd have to install 32-bit firefox to use flash, and 32-bit firefox isn't in the repository, so this would be a problem for first time users
[03:17] <eimajenthat> gflash or something linuxy like that
[03:18] <OOD> gnash
[03:18] <element> anyone know?
[03:18] <eimajenthat> ginfc, maybe (ginfc is not a flash clone), something goofy like that
[03:18] <eimajenthat> linux people and their names...
[03:19] <OOD> gnash is one of them (if there is more than one)
[03:19] <sensei> Those names is only funny if they sound nice or actually is a word
[03:19] <sensei> like Wine
[03:19] <eimajenthat> OOD: I think there are a couple
[03:19] <eimajenthat> but some are abandoned
[03:20] <element> when is the next version of kubuntu expected to be released?
[03:20] <OOD> october
[03:21] <Loth77> ehm.....
[03:21] <eimajenthat> about 5 months, right?
[03:21] <element> OOD, and what about dual monitor support...how good is it?
[03:21] <Loth77> xgl.... on my Kubuntu....
[03:21] <sensei> crimsun: I'm off to bed, I'll catch you up on that at some later point, it's not all that urgent :)
[03:21] <Loth77> is WORKING :D
[03:21] <eimajenthat> ubuntu releases on a 6 month cycle
[03:22] <OOD> element: i haven't had any experience with dual monitors (should try it out sometime) but from what understand it's no better than it is elsewhere
[03:22] <sabaal> I've heard about XGL, but I have no idea what it does.
[03:22] <element> hmmm ok
[03:22] <element> I have dual 20" monitors here :P
[03:22] <OOD> so i'd expect some tweaking to be done to acheive it
[03:22] <eimajenthat> element, I had a dual monitor set up on Mepis for a while (which is based on Dapper)
[03:23] <OOD> Loth77: o.0 plz tell me how!!!!!!
[03:23] <eimajenthat> it was serviceable
[03:23] <element> ok cool then
[03:23] <element> serviceable?
[03:23] <Loth77> easy as never....
[03:23] <eimajenthat> I mean it worked
[03:23] <Loth77> i used the automnatic package
[03:23] <element> ok
[03:23] <OOD> link for it?
[03:23] <OOD> i tried something like that but it didnt work
[03:23] <eimajenthat> it wasn't super-duperbetter-than-sex awesome
[03:23] <eimajenthat> but it worked
[03:24] <Loth77> can i post link here?
[03:24] <OOD> don't see why not
[03:24] <Loth77> http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=689
[03:25] <eimajenthat> iirc, it used Nvidia TwinView, and I had to edit the xorg.conf
[03:25] <OOD> aww damm, this is the one i tried, and it didn't work :(
[03:25] <eimajenthat> but I had it setup like a really long desktop
[03:25] <Loth77> with these 3 sources in my sources list to have all packages required up to date :
[03:25] <element> hmm ok
[03:25] <Loth77> deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/ dapper main
[03:25] <Loth77> deb http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[03:25] <Loth77> deb-src http://xgl.compiz.info/ dapper main
[03:25] <OOD> well this is a fresh install so... *tries*
[03:26] <Loth77> i tried that 2 days ago and it didn't worked... i had a messy Ubuntu with Kde on it... now i have a quite clean Kubuntu and it works:)
[03:26] <Loth77> wow.... but why i can't move windows under the bottom line??
[03:26] <eimajenthat> how do I vanish/banish these errors from apt? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16801
[03:27] <fito> is this the name for the package containing the qt dev files ? : libqt4-dev
[03:27] <OOD> eh i'm not gonna bother trying, i'll wait t'ill it's better supported
[03:28] <Loth77> oki :)
[03:28] <Loth77> it is very nice...
[03:28] <Loth77> try kororaa maybe if you wanna see it :)
[03:28] <angasule> !restricted_formats
[03:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about restricted_formats
[03:28] <angasule> !mp3
[03:28] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:29] <asdfasd> I was wondering what is paste.ubuntu-nl.org? Is it a help thing?
[03:29] <eimajenthat> angasule: if you're trying to install support for that stuff, there's a tool that does it real easy
[03:30] <r0xz> asdfasd: yeah, it's for pasting multiple text lines
[03:30] <OOD> fito: yes i beleive that's it
[03:30] <angasule> eimajenthat: I don't really like those tools, thanks, I just want some links for a friend
[03:30] <eimajenthat> angasule: enjoy
[03:31] <angasule> I will, as soon as I get the CD, it's been over a month since it shipped :/
[03:33] <ryanakca> w00t! I finally received my cds threw shipit.... AND I get a convertee.... my computer teacher....
[03:35] <Loth77> it is funny to spin the cube :D
[03:46] <ryanakca> heh.... fish:/// is awesome.... just discovered it... super usefull :)
[03:46] <baris_> hi does anyone know a way to redirect an already running console apps output to some other console?
[03:48] <blankb> baris_: its too late now but look into 'screen'
[03:48] <baris_> blankb: thanks
[03:49] <ryanakca> baris_: dunno.... but if you restart it now..... go "command whatever > file" and on console 2, go "cat file"
[03:49] <ryanakca> screen is cool too
[03:50] <baris_> yeah I started something on the server on tty2 already... and now I am remotely connected to the machine so I want to grab it back to pts1 :)
[03:58] <driz> Hello
[03:58] <baris_> hi driz
[03:58] <driz> hey baris_ your the only one hear
[04:03] <root__> my 2 software raid partitions refuse to work , can someone help me
[04:04] <ryanakca> anybody had trouble with fglrx + GL recently? It used to be fixable by downloading /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from the forums.... but it doesn't seem to work.... fglrxinfo gives me ouput about mesa and not ATI/Radeon
[04:05] <root__> ryanakca: reconfigure xserver
[04:06] <root__> anyone experienced with software raid?
[04:06] <ryanakca> been there done that... several times, picking different options... I can pastebin xorg.conf if you wish :)
[04:06] <root__> ryanakca: show me
[04:06] <ryanakca> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:07] <ryanakca> root__: http://pastebin.ca/75343
[04:09] <root__> ryanakca: looks good to me
[04:10] <ryanakca> :)
[04:10] <ryanakca> methinks its a problem with fglrx...
[04:10] <NickGarvey> I broke my computer with fglrx
[04:10] <ryanakca> heh....
[04:10] <ryanakca> fun :)
[04:10] <ryanakca> how?
[04:10] <NickGarvey> installed it, didn't work
[04:11] <root__> fglrx fried my digital out
[04:11] <ryanakca> ok... and how did it "break" your computer?
[04:11] <NickGarvey> root__: don't be root!
[04:11] <NickGarvey> ryanakca: x wouldn't load
[04:11] <ryanakca> fried digital out?
[04:11] <NickGarvey> ryanakca: didn't know how to get rid of it at the time
[04:11] <root__> yup
[04:11] <OOD> o.0
[04:11] <ryanakca> oh.... it didn't break it.... just that X didn't work.... phew
[04:11] <ryanakca> you scared me there
[04:12] <root__> NickGarvey: im trying to get it fixed , but i dont know how to fix software raid
[04:12] <root__> i installed the ati control pannel
[04:12] <root__> i started it up , the screen went blank , and my digital out was gone
[04:13] <ryanakca> digital?
[04:13] <OOD> you mean dvi  out?
[04:13] <root__> yeah dvi
[04:15] <root__> soooo , can anyone fix broken software raid?
[04:18] <ryanakca> NETSPLIT!
[04:19] <root__> whats netslit?
[04:19] <OOD> really, it doesn't work anymore?
[04:20] <ryanakca> !netsplit
[04:20] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:21] <Healot> !banana
[04:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about banana
[04:22] <driz> www.linuxreality.com really good podcast for the new linux user
[04:23] <driz> one of you guys who can should make the bot remember it
[04:23] <driz> for newbies
[04:23] <driz> i love it
[04:24] <root__> i cant believe no one uses software raid
[04:30] <Healot> root__: yeah, but I can't believe that someone here logged on as "root" :)
[04:32] <root__> yeah ,i want to get hacked
[04:33] <Healot> potentially...
[04:35] <ryanakca> ok, how do you upgrade to a 686 kernel from 386 kernel? "sudo aptitude install fglrx-kernel-2.6.15-25-686 linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 linux-686 linux-restricted-modules-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686"?
[04:35] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: that works
[04:36] <ryanakca> kk, ty
[04:36] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: some of thos epackages will automatically bring in others, but yeah
[04:36] <ryanakca> kk, and reboot I assume :)
[04:37] <Hobbsee> yep
[04:37] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: you're on the forums usually?
[04:37] <ryanakca> Wow....  Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security/main linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 2.6.15-25.43 [22.4MB] 
[04:37] <Hobbsee> hi rob
[04:38] <Hobbsee> hehe yep
[04:38] <ryanakca> From time to time.... why?
[04:38] <root__> im logged in as root because i dont have a user account because the partition i have /home on doesnt mount
[04:39] <NickGarvey> /home doesn't store your user accounts
[04:39] <NickGarvey> /etc/passwd does
[04:39] <ryanakca> set home to /usr/foo
[04:39] <root__> ok , i dont have that wither
[04:39] <ryanakca> ...
[04:39] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: just thought i recognised teh nick P
[04:39] <ryanakca> how can you not have /usr or /etc...
[04:40] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: home should be set at /home, surely?
[04:40] <root__> i dont know
[04:40] <ryanakca> yes.... but he can't get /home to mount.... but, in the meanwhile, its better than logging in as root...
[04:40] <ryanakca> wait.... that doesn't make sense...
[04:41] <ryanakca> root__: did your /home mount before?
[04:41] <crimsun> ryanakca: regarding your earlier question, ``aptitude install linux-686'' does all the work.
[04:41] <root__> no , its a fresh install ,
[04:42] <root__> like 10th install today
[04:42] <ryanakca> Hobbsee: I randomly pop up here and there every now and then and answer a few questions.... package a package here and there for REVU.... translate stuff in rosetta... little random things :)
[04:42] <thompa> compiz is working great only that log off goes to blank screen
[04:42] <ryanakca> root__: ok, well, your normal user must work, so use it...
[04:42] <Hobbsee> ryanakca: nice :)
[04:42] <Hobbsee> root__: can you type mount, and paste it to pastebin.ca please?
[04:42] <ryanakca> only way to get root to work is "sudo passwd" from a normal user account...
[04:43] <ryanakca> so....
[04:43] <root__> ryanakca: it only works in command mode
[04:43] <thompa> temperature is way down on this mobile which seems good
[04:43] <Hobbsee> and /etc/ftab maybe
[04:43] <ryanakca> root__: what? the root username?
[04:45] <root__> ryanakca: no , my user account only work in command mode
[04:46] <ryanakca> ah.... so its an X problem as well?
[04:46] <root__> yes
[04:46] <ryanakca> tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[04:46] <root__> becuse the right partitions arent there
[04:47] <ryanakca> like /usr
[04:47] <ryanakca> methinks.... wich doesnt make sense
[04:47] <ryanakca> nevermind
[04:48] <ryanakca> or no... "[22:38]  <root__> ok , i dont have that wither".... don't have /usr?
[04:49] <root__> ryanakca: actually i do have the user folder ,
[04:49] <root__> ryanakca: /usr
[04:49] <ryanakca> thought so... :)
[04:50] <root__> but , my /home /swap partitions do not mount
[04:50] <ryanakca> what about running "sudo mount /home"?
[04:50] <ryanakca> will that make it mount... I know it doesn't mount at boot...
[04:51] <root__> ryanakca: but root , which is also raid0 , mounts
[04:51] <root__> ryanakca: i did set it up fine on the x64 , just went back to x32 and its giving me damn headache
[04:52] <ryanakca> wait... are you using the same install cd?
[04:52] <test258323> x64 CDs don't work on x32, I think
[04:52] <ryanakca> for x64 & x32?
[04:53] <test258323> There are two different files to try on the Kubuntu download page
[04:53] <root__> ryanakca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16808
[04:53] <ryanakca> I dont think so either.... different processors... nope
[04:53] <ryanakca> root__: you using the same cd to install on the x64 & x32 ?
[04:54] <ryanakca> if you are, that's probably why :)
[04:54] <test258323> it says
[04:54] <test258323> mount: wrong fs type
[04:54] <test258323> I'll bet he's using the x64 CD on the x32
[04:54] <root__> ryanakca: i mean i have a amd64 , i used the kubuntu x64 for a while , but i secided to go back to 32bit cause i couldnt get a buch of stuff to work ,  but when i was using the x64 kubuntu the software raid worked well
[04:55] <ryanakca> kk, that's great... but.... did you use the same install cd for x64 & x32?
[04:55] <test258323> yes or no would be nice
[04:55] <root__> no , i have the 32bit kubuntu cd and 64bit cd
[04:56] <ryanakca> kk, good.... that saves some trouble...
[04:56] <test1337> and are they both x86 machines?
[04:56] <test1337> That is, was the x64 an AMD machine?
[04:56] <root__> only one computer
[04:57] <test1337> Right, so do you have an AMD binary for the x32?
[04:57] <test1337> Or an x86?
[04:58] <root__> ur confusing me
[04:58] <giraffe2352> Yeah, it's confusing.
[04:58] <giraffe2352> x86 is a processor type
[04:58] <root__> i have the 32bit install cd , and 64bit install cd
[04:58] <giraffe2352> Intel makes x86
[04:58] <giraffe2352> AMD makes Athlon64, Opteron, Xeon, etc.
[04:59] <giraffe2352> You need to make sure you've got an install CD suited to your chip type.
[04:59] <root__> well , i dont have intell cpu , so i didnt download the kubuntu for intel cpus
[04:59] <krlos> http://www.intel.com/products/processor/xeon/index.htm <- Xeon is made by Intel
[04:59] <giraffe2352> And I'm just trying to rule out the possibility that you're using the CD for the wrong chip type.
[04:59] <giraffe2352> Oh, sorry then.
[04:59] <Healot> Xeon by Intel
[04:59] <krlos> :p just in case
[04:59] <giraffe2352> Thanks.
[04:59] <Healot> Sounds like Zion
[05:00] <krlos> yep, Matrix fans probably work in Intel LOL
[05:00] <root__> it installs good , my kernel is good , for amd , jus the software raid doesnt work like it should
[05:00] <moparisthebest> when I run a shell script, it doesnt run in the directory it is sitting in, any ideas why or how to fix it?
[05:01] <giraffe2352> Perhaps it is running in the default directory instead
[05:01] <moparisthebest> probably, but why?
[05:01] <krlos> hey, how bad is the incompatibility (i speak spanish) when u have an AMD with i386 programs?
[05:01] <moparisthebest> its compatible
[05:01] <moparisthebest> 100% from what I have used
[05:01] <tssd> hello everyone
[05:01] <tssd> its a beautiful day today huh.
[05:02] <ryanakca> root__: run "sudo fdisk -l" & "df -l" & pastebin output please
[05:02] <root__> krlos: u mean amd64?
[05:02] <krlos> moparisthebest: oh, thx, but u cant say the same twith 32 and 64 bits architectures, do u?
[05:02] <giraffe2352> hey Mopar
[05:02] <giraffe2352> try typing your command with ,/ at the beginning
[05:02] <giraffe2352> and see if it runs where you want it to
[05:02] <giraffe2352> if so, that's the problem
[05:02] <moparisthebest> well krlos 32 bit programs run fine on 64 bit processors
[05:02] <krlos> wow ,/ <-? let me see that LOL
[05:02] <tssd> can anyone help me with my printer setup Xerox Phaser 3116?
[05:02] <moparisthebest> but i dont think it works the other way
[05:03] <krlos> moparisthebest: uhmmmm,,,,,
[05:03] <giraffe2352> well, might be the problem
[05:03] <moparisthebest> giraffe2352, it works if i do that, but Im trying to click the shell script to run it with sh
[05:03] <moparisthebest> perhaps i cant do that
[05:03] <krlos> interesting, thx, moparisthebest
[05:03] <ryanakca> bbl, bed...
[05:03] <giraffe2352> @mopar -- try editing the startup file in your home directory
[05:04] <giraffe2352> @mopar -- the .cshrc file, perhaps
[05:04] <root__> ryanakca: i dont have any output from this command
[05:06] <giraffe2352> silly peer
[05:06] <giraffe2352> always resetting peoples connections
[05:07] <giraffe2352> he must get really bored
[05:08] <tssd> sir what will I install to run a .sh file
[05:08] <tssd> anyone?
[05:09] <NickGarvey> tssd: nothin
[05:09] <bimberi> tssd: 'sh file.sh' (in a terminal)
[05:09] <Healot> chmod +x; sh <.sh>
[05:09] <tssd> tnx
[05:09] <krlos> silly peer <- JAJAJA LOOLLL
[05:09] <tssd> I have a bad interpreter error when I ran a script .sh file
[05:10] <Healot> does it say "English is not a language"?
[05:11] <root__> what gui partitioning tool recognises software raid?
[05:11] <Ahmuck> hi, my wireless does not seem to be working.  why ?
[05:13] <Healot> Fedora Core disk druid
[05:14] <giraffe2352> @ahmuck - you didn't give much info
[05:14] <giraffe2352> was it working previously?
[05:16] <Ahmuck> no, it has never worked
[05:16] <giraffe2352> Is it a new router?
[05:16] <Ahmuck> well, in kubuntu it hasn't
[05:16] <flake> does anyone know, if i were to install mysql would that make my desktop a server?
[05:16] <giraffe2352> well, just fill me on the situation
[05:16] <tssd> got to go
[05:16] <giraffe2352> what sort of wireless are you connecting to, etc
[05:16] <tssd> tnx for the support
[05:16] <Ahmuck> well, no router, but yes, a new router.
[05:16] <Ahmuck> i cannot get the wireless on the laptop to turn on
[05:17] <flake> i understant mysql would run as a service? like a background program?
[05:17] <giraffe2352> it worked with Windows then?
[05:17] <Ahmuck> when i try to enable it, it won't
[05:17] <Ahmuck> giraffe2352: yes
[05:17] <giraffe2352> @flake - mysql is a service
[05:18] <giraffe2352> but you still need to set up your computer to serve requests
[05:18] <giraffe2352> I assume you have a router and firewall, those will need to be configured
[05:18] <root__> yoooo , what is a gui partitioning tool that works with software raid?????
[05:18] <Ahmuck> does kubuntu search for networks ?
[05:18] <Ahmuck> like windows ?
[05:18] <Healot> !hardware
[05:18] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[05:18] <Ahmuck> currently it does not show that the wireless is enalbed
[05:18] <Healot> Ahmuck: ubuntu search for lost souls :)
[05:19] <krlos> JAJAJA
[05:19] <Healot> Fedora Core disk druid >> root__
[05:19] <krlos> ubuntu, linux for human beings WITH internet
[05:19] <Ahmuck> Healot: i need a ghost adapter for that :-)
[05:19] <root__> Healot: thank you
[05:19] <giraffe2352> @ahmuck -- simple but necessary analog question -- is your laptop's wireless switch set to on?
[05:20] <Healot> currently parted based GUI doesn;t support RAID
[05:20] <krlos> qtparted*
[05:21] <Healot> but parted (in cli) works with raid
[05:21] <Ahmuck> giraffe2352: that i checked.  in kubuntu it will not come on :-(
[05:21] <Ahmuck> when i press it, no light
[05:22] <Healot> Ahmuck: what's your card anyways
[05:22] <giraffe2352> g2g
[05:22] <Healot> checkout the hardware compatibilty list and stop complaining, if it doesn't work with stock distro, you can always find alternate ways to do that
[05:23] <Ahmuck> Healot: i am not complaining yet ... but i can if you would like
[05:23] <Healot> you are now...
[05:24] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: Healot coc :)
[05:24] <Healot> you don't even tell what your wifi model/brand
[05:24] <Healot> how should we know how to help you?
[05:24] <Ahmuck> karma
[05:25] <Healot> without knowing that one crucial detail
[05:28] <Hobbsee> Ahmuck: pastebin lspci
[05:28] <Ahmuck> Hobbsee: i am tracking down my wireless nic
[05:28] <Hobbsee> right
[05:29] <Hobbsee> you dont really need to know the model - just the chipset, IMO.
[05:29] <Hobbsee> that'll tell you teh drivers needed
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Father (*&#%@#!
[05:29] <Healot> he is still tracking that down :)
[05:34] <Ahmuck> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[05:34] <Ahmuck> 0000:02:06.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[05:35] <Healot> BCM
[05:35] <Healot> now that one is a bloody wifi card
[05:35] <Healot> !broadcom
[05:35] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:35] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: should be easy to get working, really
[05:36] <Healot> not with broadcom...
[05:36] <Healot> with the bcwcutter bs and things
[05:37] <jbrouhard> Hey guys (and gals).. any chance you guys could help me with something
[05:37] <Healot> !ask
[05:37] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:37] <jbrouhard> LOL
[05:37] <jbrouhard> I have a friend with a laptop with an ipw3945 chipset for a wireless card (internal one).
[05:37] <robotgeek> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[05:37] <jbrouhard> He's read on a few of the ubuntu sites that there are problems with this chipset being recognized by networkmanager
[05:37] <jbrouhard> Is this correct ?
[05:38] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs >> follow this link, and you'll see the howto of configuring ipw chipset, jbrouhard
[05:39] <Healot> Get the recommended RT chipset
[05:39] <robotgeek> broadcom works fine, actually
[05:40] <jbrouhard> Okay
[05:40] <jbrouhard> I'm lost here
[05:41] <Healot> you're lost because you don;t have a web browser installed?
[05:41] <jbrouhard> uh..
[05:41] <jbrouhard> no LOL
[05:41] <jbrouhard> Can't find anything in that page about ipw, but i may be searching wrong
[05:42] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16815  can somebody help me out with this??
[05:43] <Healot> wifi and 3D acceleration are killing Linux community, bad manufacturers and proprietary bs
[05:43] <deuce868> what's the best photo mangement app for kubuntu these days? F-spot? Something else?
[05:43] <robotgeek> deuce868: digikam
[05:43] <robotgeek> jbrouhard: lemme look
[05:43] <deuce868> robotgeek, thanks, I'll give it a shot
[05:43] <jbrouhard> ok
[05:44] <dr_willis> I consiuder WiFi a lost cause under windows most of the time
[05:44] <jbrouhard> LOL
[05:44] <jbrouhard> it usually is
[05:44] <dr_willis> and for 'work' 3d - is over kill. :P
[05:45] <robotgeek> jbrouhard: what is the make of the card?
[05:45] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16815  can somebody help me out with this??
[05:45] <Healot> jbrouhard: ipw3xxx driver can be found at intel.com
[05:45] <jbrouhard> robotgeek: it's an internal wireless card.. Intel actually
[05:45] <jbrouhard> Healot: yeah.. we know.
[05:45] <jbrouhard> We're just wondering if that driver has a problem in ubuntu.
[05:45] <Healot> jbrouhard: why haven't you go get that yet?
[05:46] <jbrouhard> WHOA!
[05:46] <jbrouhard> Netsplit ;)
[05:46] <deuce868> robotgeek, any idea what the kipi-plugins are as a suggested package?
[05:46] <jbrouhard> Actually, it's not my laptop
[05:46] <jbrouhard> i'm asking for a friend who's trying ubuntu in a bit
[05:46] <jbrouhard> Does he always have to modprove
[05:46] <jbrouhard> err modprobe or can he "cheat" and make it boot-time load ?
[05:46] <kosh> what does he have to modprobe now?
[05:46] <jbrouhard> *wonders if Ubuntu uses a autoload module script like gentoo does..
[05:46] <Ahmuck> her, the native driver for bcm4318 only works at 11Mbs, if that works for you read on
[05:46] <Ahmuck> bleh
[05:47] <robotgeek> http://ipw3945.sourceforge.net/ has the driver, again i guess. i doubt if ubuntu has kernel support
[05:47] <deuce868> I have the 3945
[05:47] <deuce868> works out of the box just fine
[05:47] <Healot> jbrouhard: the module can  loaded at boot time, just like any other modul
[05:47] <crimsun> ubuntu supports the ipw3945
[05:47] <jbrouhard> Works out of the box fine ?
[05:47] <kosh> modules shoudl be autoloaded already for all detected hardware
[05:47] <deuce868> I setup networkmanager though for WPA support
[05:47] <deuce868> Yea, should be ok on dapper
[05:47] <imbrandon_> jbrouhard: just add it to /etc/modules
[05:47] <jbrouhard> Okay
[05:47] <imbrandon_> if it dont
[05:47] <deuce868> I have a brand new HP with the core duo and I'm pretty sure that's the card.
[05:48] <jbrouhard> I think he was stuck on Breezy...
[05:48] <crimsun> Dapper support for the ipw3495 was mandated by the sabdfl
[05:48] <Healot> what's the duel-core have to do with ipw?
[05:48] <imbrandon_> ahh
[05:48] <jbrouhard> Healot: dual core HP's have ipw's in them
[05:48] <imbrandon_> heya crimsun
[05:48] <deuce868> Yea, actually with network manager wireless is working as well as my powerbook did
[05:48] <crimsun> hi
[05:48] <robotgeek> crimsun: hey, did not know that!
[05:49] <Healot> so does on most new Intel-based mobo for portable computers
[05:49] <kosh> wifi I figure will be ready in another 10-20 years at the rate they are going
[05:50] <kosh> security seems to be basically be lipservice, it is not reliable, slow, high latency
[05:50] <robotgeek> wifi works fine on my box
[05:50] <kosh> and it takes more cpu power then running a gigabit nic
[05:51] <deuce868> kosh, bah, the cpu usuage is hardly noticeable. I've never need to turn off wireless to get better cpu
[05:52] <deuce868> and WPA seems to work out ok for now. Sure it will be outdated in a few years, but it's the cost of no wires
[05:52] <deuce868> give and take
[05:52] <kosh> I much prefer wired systems
[05:53] <kosh> vastly faster, more reliable
[05:53] <deuce868> Yea, but not always more convienent.
[05:53] <dr_willis> and if the wife  turns on the microwave.. you dont get disconnected.
[05:53] <dr_willis> :P
[05:53] <deuce868> I run on wireless 90% of the time because it works just fine. Now when I need to move 10gb of files I plug in
[05:54] <deuce868> lol, then don't but your router by the microwave
[05:54] <imbrandon_> ok guys this is turning into #kubuntu-offtopic , please take non-support there ;)
[05:55] <imbrandon_> wb Hobbsee
[05:55] <Hobbsee_> hiya and goodbye
[05:55] <dr_willis> bah - take it to #debian :P
[05:55] <Ahmuck> ok, now i am going to complain.  what a pain it is to get this chipset working
[05:56] <Healot> wrong kinda hardware I guess, Ahmuck
[05:58] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: the 4306, from broadcom?
[05:59] <Ahmuck> robotgeek: yes
[05:59] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: you need to get yourself the firmware, after that it should be simple
[06:00] <Ahmuck> robotgeek: i am dual booting.  it says i can get the firmware via windows.
[06:01] <robotgeek> Ahmuck: is'nt there a file linked from there?
[06:03] <Ahmuck> yes, working on it
[06:11] <moparisthebest> anyone familiar with the mount command?
[06:11] <moparisthebest> how would you mount an iso with a space in the name?
[06:11] <SmrtJustin> moparisthebest: try quotes
[06:11] <moparisthebest> the space is screwing it up
[06:11] <moparisthebest> I tried " and '
[06:11] <SmrtJustin> what about \ before the space?
[06:11] <moparisthebest> do I need to do anything else too?
[06:11] <moparisthebest> oh, ill try it
[06:12] <SmrtJustin> like : the\ file.iso
[06:12] <moparisthebest> nope SmrtJustin
[06:12] <SmrtJustin> why can't you just rename the iso?
[06:12] <moparisthebest> read only :(
[06:12] <jbrouhard> Uh
[06:12] <SmrtJustin> cp it to a drive thats writeable?
[06:12] <jbrouhard> you can make it writable ya know?
[06:13] <moparisthebest> i dont have the space
[06:13] <moparisthebest> and no i cant, its on an ntfs harddrive
[06:13] <jbrouhard> oO
[06:13] <SmrtJustin> are you using the mount options for readonly?
[06:13] <jbrouhard> NTFS Drive ?
[06:13] <moparisthebest> sudo mount /mnt/windows/isoland/Quake\ 4.iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:13] <moparisthebest> this is the command im using
[06:13] <moparisthebest> what should it be?
[06:13] <fiyawerx> anyone know how to reset all your custimization settings with look of kde to default install?
[06:13] <jbrouhard> try sudo mount "/mnt/windows/isoland/Quake 4.iso" -t iso9660 -o loop ?
[06:14] <SmrtJustin> sudo mount "/mnt/windows/isoland/Quake 4.iso" -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:14] <SmrtJustin> you tryed that right?
[06:14] <moparisthebest> oops
[06:14] <jbrouhard> LMAO
[06:14] <jbrouhard> I just typed that !
[06:14] <moparisthebest> wait i missed where to mount it
[06:14] <SmrtJustin> sorry, didn't see that
[06:14] <jerry> hi
[06:14] <jbrouhard> NP man :)
[06:14] <SmrtJustin> lol
[06:14] <jbrouhard> GMTA :)
[06:15] <SmrtJustin> yeah, you have to tell it where to mount it, I overlooked that...
[06:15] <SmrtJustin> stupid me
[06:15] <moparisthebest> sudo mount "/mnt/windows/isoland/Quake 4.iso" /mnt/iso -t iso9660 -o loop
[06:15] <jbrouhard> I've had spaces in my ISOs before.
[06:15] <moparisthebest> got it :)
[06:15] <jbrouhard> Well
[06:15] <moparisthebest> well now i know, thanks anyway :)
[06:15] <SmrtJustin> moparisthebest: great, the spaces shouldn't make a differance.
[06:15] <jbrouhard> I've done mount -t iso9660 -o loop "/path/to/iso with spaces.iso" /mnt/cdrom
[06:15] <moparisthebest> they didnt after I put in quotes
[06:15] <jbrouhard> and it works
[06:16] <Healot> yes
[06:16] <moparisthebest> but i forgot to put the location to mount to lol
[06:16] <Healot> it will
[06:17] <jerry> hi
[06:17] <deuce868> anyone know why the kipi plugins are not being detected by digikam?
[06:17] <jerry> I have a question
[06:17] <jbrouhard> ask away
[06:17] <deuce868> They are installed, but configure digikam says 0 kipi extensions installed
[06:17] <Healot> !ask
[06:17] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:17] <jerry> I downloaded KMC-0.9 and it says that I need something QT?
[06:17] <Healot> damn i love the bot
[06:17] <Healot> jerry: precompiled or in source package form?
[06:18] <jerry> precompile
[06:18] <jerry> or
[06:18] <jerry> source package
[06:18] <jerry> there's a makefile
[06:18] <root__> fedora or suse?
[06:18] <jerry> kde
[06:18] <Healot> source package then...
[06:18] <Healot> you need the libqt3-mt-dev or something
[06:19] <Healot> !find qt
[06:19] <ubotu> Found: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt, language-selector-qt, libavahi-qt3-1, libavahi-qt3-dev, libdbus-qt-1-1c2 (and 98 others)
[06:19] <jerry> ok
[06:19] <jerry> I need libqt3-mt-dev
[06:19] <Healot> damn too many
[06:19] <Healot> !info libqt3-mt-dev
[06:19] <ubotu> libqt3-mt-dev: Qt development files (Threaded). In repository main, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 160 kB
[06:20] <jerry> is that right?
[06:20] <jerry> libqt3-mt-dev
[06:20] <Healot> !find libkde
[06:20] <ubotu> Found: libkdeedu-dev, libkdeedu3, libkdegames-dev, libkdegames1, libkdepim1-dev (and 4 others)
[06:21] <root__> guys if i tell you what my root passwords is , can you log in to my pc and fix my raid?
[06:21] <jerry> you're logged in as root
[06:22] <root__> dang it , so there can only be one root?
[06:23] <Healot> yes
[06:24] <kosh> umm you can have as many logins to root at a time if you want
[06:24] <kosh> however I can't fix your raid, at least not in the time I have
[06:24] <root__> im not sure why this hasnt been fixed , the software raid setup does not work on the x32 kubuntu , and works on the x64 kubuntu
[06:25] <Healot> root__: tried disk druid yet?
[06:25] <Healot> root__: are you using the desktop CD or the alternate CD?
[06:26] <root__> not yet , i read a post that i can edit grub by pressing E when the kernel boots , ill try that first
[06:26] <root__> i got the alternative cd
[06:26] <Healot> then it shall work, unless problem occurs
[06:27] <Healot> i've setup like 8 raid storages using ubuntu for customers so far
[06:27] <root__> it sais something about magic bit or magic spot , magic something not being right on the partition
[06:27] <Healot> incorrect volume id? maybe
[06:28] <root__> and i know its not my fault because ive redone it like 10 times today , and same thing happens every time
[06:29] <root__> so i think its not assigning the partitions correctly
[06:33] <root__> the x64 kubuntu has worked so well for me , except there is too many dependency problems when installing 32bit apps
[06:34] <root__> and im new , i dont know how to deal with that stuff
[06:34] <root__> i just want to get it installed and use it
[06:35] <fiyawerx> hey guys, how can you tell what device your cdrom is?
[06:36] <root__> put a cd in, the icon will show up on the desktop
[06:36] <root__> the popup thing will tell u what it is
[06:36] <root__> or u can right click ., properties
[06:37] <fiyawerx> oh, /dev/hdb, thats my problem heh
[06:44] <jerry> hi
[06:45] <jerry> I have a question
[06:46] <Healot> !ask
[06:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:46] <Healot> hoho
[06:46] <Healot> I am loving the robot
[06:46] <jerry> I'm trying to imstall this program kmc but when I do I get a checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[06:46] <fiyawerx> does anyone use amarok to rip their cds?
[06:47] <Healot> jerry:
[06:47] <fiyawerx> i like the way it organizes stuff, but i can't get it to rip and tag right
[06:47] <Healot> ahve you installed libqt3-mt-dev yet?
[06:47] <jerry> I'm not sure what to do
[06:47] <jerry> Yeah I installed that
[06:47] <jerry> and the old headers for it
[06:48] <root___> so , are there any plans to unite linux in one core system ?
[06:50] <fiyawerx> yeah, and it's agreed, there won't be any 'root'
[06:50] <fiyawerx> :)
[06:51] <Healot> root__: unified but variants still exist
[06:52] <Healot> in term of filesystem yes, but application/environment may differ
[06:53] <root___> yes , its good that variants exist , but i dont understand lets say , why use rpm and apt and whatever else , when the best of 2 could be combined into one , and that would be used as standard
[06:54] <Healot> well... they did that before, but fedora community removed debian apt-get support
[06:54] <Healot> but imho, as long as the filesystem is the same, i am happy with either rpm or deb
[06:56] <root___> also when , when i went on to kde apps , there is like 100 different text editors , ??? and they all pretty much suck , so why not create a project to make one great text editor?
[06:56] <kkathman> Healot:  there is a new standard emerging now... called smart
[06:56] <OOD> openoffice?
[06:56] <TheHighChild> root__ you don;t like kate or nano?
[06:57] <root___> i do , im just using it as an exeple
[06:57] <knanand> hi
[06:57] <root___> open office is ok , but its way behind msword
[06:58] <root___> or ms office
[06:58] <Healot> help oo developers then///
[06:58] <TheHighChild> It's not like you can't run Office in Wine
[06:59] <Healot> older office works
[06:59] <root___> id like to ,but i cant code
[06:59] <Healot> not those XP or 2003
[06:59] <Healot> root__: there are other ways to support
[07:00] <Healot> btw, WINE is a sick development, why Windows?
[07:00] <GullyFoyle> i'm bummed cuz my kubuntu installation is set up just the way i like it but i'm gonna have to ream it out and reinstall windows and dual-boot cuz of family considerations
[07:01] <fiyawerx> GullyFoyle: can't backup your settings files?
[07:01] <TheHighChild> Healot: I agree, just saying it's possible
[07:01] <Healot> but it is sick
[07:01] <Healot> you're getting rid of Windows, not using it
[07:01] <fiyawerx> GullyFoyle: or just install windows and then reinstall grub?
[07:01] <OOD> sick?
[07:01] <TheHighChild> GullyFoyle: VMware?
[07:01] <OOD> how's it sick
[07:02] <fiyawerx> he means sick as in good
[07:02] <fiyawerx> i think
[07:02] <fiyawerx> :)
[07:02] <OOD> ah ok :P
[07:02] <TheHighChild> gotcha. I think they do noble work. I really try and stay pure though.
[07:03] <TheHighChild> soooo...does anyone have any problems?
[07:03] <OOD> i got 1, but i'm pretty sure it's unsolvable
[07:04] <shredder_> Well I am problemed
[07:04] <TheHighChild> shoot
[07:04] <TheHighChild> I would kill for a freaking recliner. dang hippies only have futons over here
[07:04] <Healot> WINE is a good project, yeah i meant sick as in cool/great
[07:05] <GullyFoyle> i'm thinking another box on the network cuz this one's mine!
[07:05] <shredder_> anyone hear of the new divorce barbi?
[07:06] <shredder_> she comes with all ken's stuff
[07:06] <OOD> o_____0
[07:07] <knanand> i have kubuntu CDs with me.. I have installed ubuntu how to install kubuntu-desktop from my CD (i dont want to download) :(
[07:07] <knanand> i have kubuntu CDs with me.. I have installed ubuntu how to install kubuntu-desktop from my CD (i dont want to download) :(
[07:07] <Healot> knanand: add the CD to the repos list
[07:07] <GullyFoyle> use dpkg
[07:07] <Healot> use adept I guess
[07:08] <GullyFoyle> them gui's have always stabbed me in the back... a console is your friend
[07:08] <Healot> apt-cdrom would do it
[07:09] <shredder_> Tool is Cool
[07:09] <knanand> Healot: i have added the CDs to repos list and disabled other repos.. but it does not show kubuntu-desktop
[07:09] <Healot> knanand: sudo apt-cdrom add
[07:09] <jbrouhard> Reboot time.. *mutters* (Hates windows)
[07:09] <Healot> knanand: update the list yet?
[07:10] <fiyawerx> what apps do you guys use to *manage* your music collections?
[07:10] <root___> im just saying , that there should be some place where projects should merge and merge and merge , till there is one or 2 good apps from every category ,
[07:11] <Healot> Windows Media Player ohoho
[07:11] <Healot> honestly i love Windows when it comes to Multimedia bs
[07:12] <GullyFoyle> root___: like what kinda apps? some pople like apps in a more "primitive" state
[07:12] <knanand> Healot: i refresh but still i dont find it..
[07:12] <shredder_> Heavy metal and techno and rap pretty much covers my music collection
[07:12] <sotired> is there an eay way to convert divx and xvid video;s to dvd?
[07:12] <sotired> i used to use a program called Vsoconverxttodvd under M$
[07:12] <sotired> if anyone knows of anything similar
[07:14] <knanand> Healot: is synaptic showing only the items for ubuntu
[07:14] <Healot> knanand: lemme see you /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <Healot> and I'll tell you where you went
[07:16] <sotired> is there an eay way to convert divx and xvid video;s to dvd?
[07:16] <knanand> Healot: this is the only line that is not commented "deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted"
[07:16] <root___> GullyFoyle: like a kopete , its good app , but needs a lot of work , looks like a win 3.1 app , hardsly supports any webcam , etc etc ,, like k3b , its a good app , but compare it to nero and it sinks , java apps plain suck on linux , i can ran azurues on my 500mhz pc as fast as i can run it on linux on my 2.8ghz amd64
[07:17] <GullyFoyle> sometimes i think guis are overrated. for example i am presently tping in irssi which i brought up in a "screen" session in an aterm in fluxbox with one short key combination that conected me to the freenode server, logged me in, gave my password, and all i did was mod4 + f.
[07:17] <lord_crow> heya
[07:18] <GullyFoyle> once ya know a little of what yer doin, things are faaaaaast.
[07:18] <knanand> help me to install kubuntu plzz
[07:18] <lord_crow> is there any success installing Xgl/Compiz on Kubuntu on 64 bits ???
[07:18] <fiyawerx> yeah but you could have skipped all that gui stuff and just gone from the console
[07:18] <sotired> kanand:put in the live cd and click install
[07:19] <knanand> sotired: i have installed ubuntu, now i want kde..
[07:20] <flake> easy to install kde
[07:20] <flake> sudo apt-get update
[07:20] <sotired> oh im sorry
[07:20] <flake> then
[07:20] <lord_crow> i have searched everywhere and found nothing about it :(
[07:20] <flake> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:20] <fiyawerx> flake, he doesn't want to download, he has the kubuntu cd i believe
[07:20] <flake> doh
[07:20] <fiyawerx> flake: think the problem is setting the cd itself as a repo :)
[07:21] <sotired> anyone now what i need to convert an xvid to dvd?
[07:21] <sotired> *know
[07:23] <knanand> Please help me to install kubuntu over ubuntu.. :(
[07:23] <noaXess> knanand, you.. no problemo :)
[07:23] <GullyFoyle> root___: in windows, many of libs and dll's and such are loaded at boot time so the apps appear to load faster because all of that stuff was already loaded adn residing in memory. i've noticed that windows will boot and i can move the mouse etc, but i can't run anything for another 30 secs
[07:24] <noaXess> knanand, have you all the right repos?
[07:25] <knanand> noaXess: i have kubuntu CDs and ubuntu installed, i want to install kubuntu over ubuntu..
[07:25] <noaXess> knanand, no problem.. first.. read !easysource
[07:25] <flake> i'm running firefox and i notice i have the same spyware issues as windoze?  some keywords are double-underlined, and each time i hover the mouse over it it pulls up an ad window
[07:25] <root___> GullyFoyle: well ,kubuntu is great , i just wish linux was more developed
[07:25] <noaXess> !easysource
[07:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:26] <root___> GullyFoyle: and that i could get my raid to work properly
[07:26] <root___> GullyFoyle: without spending a whole day on it
[07:26] <fiyawerx> noaXess: i don't tihnk easysource tells you how to add a cd as a repo
[07:26] <fiyawerx> does it?
[07:26] <knanand> noaXess: i dont find kubuntu-desktop when i add my CD to repos and disable other
[07:26] <noaXess> firephoto, with the right sources.. you don't nedd a cd ;)
[07:26] <GullyFoyle> root___: mebbe you should try a mac cuz yes, linux still takes a lot of tweaking, but the people who use it generally enjoy tweaking it.
[07:26] <fiyawerx> noaXess: he doesn't want to download, he _has_ the cd
[07:27] <root___> GullyFoyle: nah , im not interested in mac at all
[07:27] <noaXess> fiyawerx, he need to download.. cause there are newer version's as on the cd..
[07:27] <flake> maybe it's just the webpage
[07:28] <fiyawerx> noaXess: it's not easier to update than download from scratch?
[07:28] <GullyFoyle> i enjoy linux because after all the rweading and tweaking and such, when i finally get it right i feel like i OWN it.
[07:29] <noaXess> fiyawerx, no.. my choice is to install from repos, download newest version and install... easysource will give you right repo's for actuall kubuntu-desktop.
[07:29] <root___> GullyFoyle: i like tweaking , but unless there are good guides on how to do it ,its not happening , unless ure already a linux genius /coder
[07:29] <fiyawerx> knanand: you on broadband?
[07:29] <flake> gullyfoyle - same here but in reality it owns me
[07:30] <knanand> fiyawerx: ya but y to download when i have CDs
[07:30] <fiyawerx> knanand: well according to noaXess, you'll have to update afterward which will be just as big of a download for some reason anyway
[07:30] <noaXess> knanand, cause on cd are not the newest verions... and if you install from cd, later you need download latest packages too
[07:31] <noaXess> fiyawerx, my words in your word's :)
[07:31] <fiyawerx> with that said, i did the same thing, but i just scrapped ubuntu and installed kubuntu from scratch, i dislike having both installed for some reason
[07:31] <root___> GullyFoyle: yeah , but right now i just feel a big headache after reinstalling the os 10 times today and still not getting anywhere
[07:32] <fiyawerx> I installed kub from the cd then just did whatever updates it wanted
[07:32] <noaXess> fiyawerx, new install?
[07:32] <TheHighChild> root___: what is the problem?
[07:32] <noaXess> or over ubuntu?
[07:32] <fiyawerx> yeah, i tried ubuntu, wanted to use kubuntu instead, so formatted and reinstalled kubuntu from the dvd :)
[07:32] <knanand> noaXess: i have ver 6.06, the download is nore than 125 MB, i prefer to install and then update which will be smaller on size...
[07:33] <knanand> noaXess: atleast i can update selected pkgs..
[07:33] <fiyawerx> knanand: if you don't have anything to lose, i'd just boot from the cd and install clean
[07:33] <noaXess> knanand, what 125mb????? thats nothing... about 30-60 min's... but it's your choice.. we can only give you tip's..
[07:33] <noaXess> ;)
[07:33] <fiyawerx> i don't remember my downloads even taking that long
[07:34] <root___> TheHighChild: the software raid doesnt setup correctly under 32bit system,  but does work correctly in the 64bit
[07:34] <noaXess> need to go.. bye..
[07:34] <TheHighChild> root___: Are you setting up a desktop?
[07:34] <GullyFoyle> root___: when i apt-get upgrade to dapper my system was so f***ed i seriously considered blowing it off and just sticking with winblows, but 1 by 1 I fixed all the littl bugc and frankly i'm so used to my linux box that windows takes a bit of reorienting to use sometimes.
[07:35] <root___> TheHighChild: yup , im setting up my desktop
[07:35] <TheHighChild> root___: To be honest, I think the 64 bit linux desktop is shite. I'd stick with 32, 64 won't be any faster with desktop apps, slower if anything
[07:36] <fiyawerx> root___: that seems to be the general opinion, too
[07:36] <fiyawerx> for now, anyway
[07:36] <TheHighChild> root___: I just went through the whole 64 bit thing on my PC and it just wasn't worth the hassle
[07:36] <GullyFoyle> many of my probs stemmed from the fact i'm running amd64, it's true
[07:37] <GullyFoyle> but unreal tournament plays like butter :P
[07:37] <TheHighChild> 64 bit is great for server installation of kub but the desktop apps have been seriously rushed
[07:38] <root___> TheHighChild: well , ive been using the x64 kubuntu for like 2 weeks ,till today , and it was working great , except the things i want to install are all 32bit , and i dont want to mess with the 32bit dependencies , so , the 32bit system is giving me problems , not the 64
[07:38] <fiyawerx> is there a way to make /dev/cdrom default to /dev/hdb?
[07:38] <fiyawerx> rather, i want my /dev/hdb to be known as /dev/cdrom
[07:39] <TheHighChild> root___: no idea wtf you just said but good luck
[07:39] <GullyFoyle> i got 32bit flash working in lonqueror
[07:39] <GullyFoyle> *konqueror
[07:41] <fiyawerx> hmm, think i got it, symlinked hdb to cdrom in /dev
[07:41] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: You should mount it through the fstab
[07:42] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: you can mount an empty device?
[07:42] <unix_infidel> sure.
[07:42] <fiyawerx> well, ok, whats wrong with making the symlink?
[07:43] <fiyawerx> and how can you mount one device to be another in fstab?
[07:44] <tssd> help pls. how to install & connect xerox phaser 3116 connected to windows via SMB
[07:44] <fiyawerx> like on my system, /dev/cdrom is nothing, /dev/hda is my writer, and /dev/hdb is my cd player
[07:44] <fiyawerx> i wanted /dev/hdb to also act as /dev/cdrom
[07:44] <unix_infidel> fiyawerx: what's your hd?
[07:44] <unix_infidel> sda1?
[07:44] <shredder_> You can mount her software with your hard drive
[07:45] <fiyawerx> yeah unix_infidel, sda's
[07:45] <tssd> if anyone know pls respond
[07:45] <fiyawerx> root starts at /dev/sda5
[07:45] <TheHighChild> he's trying to mount /dev/hdb to /media/cdrom
[07:45] <fiyawerx> no i'm not
[07:45] <fiyawerx> i want it to act like /dev/cdrom
[07:45] <unix_infidel> no the's trying to symlink one device node to another.
[07:45] <unix_infidel> there's nothing wrong with that.
[07:46] <fiyawerx> right, that's what i did, and it worked :)
[07:46] <unix_infidel> atleast i think what he's trying to do.
[07:46] <crazy_penguin> good morning ladies and gentlemans! a good morning to all of you!
[07:46] <fiyawerx> unix_infidel: yep, worked like a charm, was just wondering why people said to use fstab, i think they just misunderstood what i said
[07:46] <fiyawerx> wasn't a mounting problem :)
[07:46] <flake> hi crazy penguin, please turn down the sunshine - some of us are trying to sleep
[07:46] <crazy_penguin> :)
[07:47] <flake> how's it going
[07:48] <TheHighChild> my bad fiyawerx
[07:48] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: no worries
[07:51] <fiyawerx> anyone know any good free linux games?
[07:51] <flake> i got a question:  is the flicker on certain windoze components in programs using wine unavoidable?
[07:51] <fiyawerx> besides muds and armagetron :)
[07:51] <shredder_> Whoa, Word's Konversation was Terminated! Thats cool huh.
[07:52] <word> meh
[07:52] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: Enemy Territory
[07:53] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: hm, last time i tried that I had problems, do you have a link again?
[07:53] <fiyawerx> I'm on a new install now, willing to give it another go
[07:54] <shredder_> Konw of recent time chatters?
[07:54] <shredder_> Anyone
[07:55] <jerry> hi
[07:57] <TheHighChild> fiyawerx: http://www.shitstormfiles.com/utilities/ it's et-linux-2.60.x86.run. Right click and save as, then chmod u+x then ./et-*
[07:58] <fiyawerx> TheHighChild: thanks
[07:58] <TheHighChild> np, heading to bed guys, take care
[08:02] <elknof1> hi everybody, does anybody knows how to hide hidden files in konqueror??
[08:02] <elknof1> i selected show hidden files, but now i have no idea how to undo that
[08:03] <RawSewage> yes
[08:03] <RawSewage> View -
[08:03] <shredder_> first ya gotta find it, then hide them again
[08:03] <jerry> I have a question
[08:03] <shredder_> Thats krazy
[08:03] <RawSewage> Uncheck Show Hidden Files
[08:03] <fiyawerx> lol
[08:06] <jerry> I am trying to run configure on kmc-0.9 and when I do I get an error checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraies) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:06] <word> !qt
[08:06] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[08:07] <word> jerry:  install that package ^
[08:07] <jerry> I thought I did
[08:07] <DaSkreech> There are no image editors shipped with Kubuntu?
[08:07] <jerry> libqt3-mt-dev
[08:07] <elknof1> RawSewage, lol...  i think i showed myself as an stupid...
[08:07] <shredder_> for starters try a 14.00 varimicules curve sequence program. You might need a hand held 145.00 Gz or better wave scanner as well
[08:07] <word> DaSkreech: Krita?
[08:07] <elknof1> RawSewage, thanks
[08:07] <orient2000> I have jave  package .bin from jave.com... There is no right info how to install it. I do know all the links. Please respond if you soled the problem. Have a nice day. James.\
[08:07] <DaSkreech> word: It's not installed?
[08:08] <word> I musta gotten it somehow then
[08:08] <jerry> Can I do it with that thing?
[08:08] <word> meh don't remmeber
[08:08] <jerry> adept?
[08:08] <jerry> cause I selected something like libqt3-mt-dev
[08:08] <word> jerry:  yah or you could do "sudo apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev" in command line
[08:08] <word> terminal konsole whatever
[08:09] <fiyawerx> word: i think krita was installed by default with my installation
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Ok found it :)
[08:09] <fiyawerx> :)
[08:09] <DaSkreech> I can't lock the resolution :-(
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Bah
[08:11] <DaSkreech> How do I resize an image in krita?
[08:11] <word> somehwere in edit?
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Nope
[08:11] <DaSkreech> Edit is all blanked out
[08:12] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:12] <word> image - > image properties
[08:12] <DaSkreech> That effectively crops the picture
[08:12] <DaSkreech>  I wanna resize
[08:16] <shredder_> Blah blah blah, It said that this was a chatroom about angels and demons & Da vinci code by Dan Brown this room is un-explainably boring. You do know.
[08:17] <shredder_> Have fun, c-yall
[08:33] <RawSewage> huh
[08:33] <jerry> hi
[08:49] <jerry> is this for real?
[08:49] <jerry> http://www.genpets.com/index.php
[08:52] <noaXess> what the h..????????
[08:52] <jerry> I just saw it
[08:52] <jerry> It's a genpet
[08:53] <jerry> It says that they created genpet from some kind of DNA or something
[08:53] <noaXess> yeah.. but what's about this world??
[08:53] <noaXess> where will this end's????
[08:54] <jerry> Well it says that it lasts for 1 year and there's another one that lasts 3 years
[08:54] <jerry> I'm pretty sure it's true
[08:54] <jerry> just I didn't know science was that far advanced
[08:55] <jerry> I mean it sure beats seamonkeys
[08:55] <RawSewage> lol
[08:55] <RawSewage> fake
[08:55] <jerry> it is really?
[08:56] <jerry> Do you know if there's any information saying that it's fake?
[08:56] <jerry> Not meaning to be in denial
[08:57] <jerry> Has anyone tried kmc?
[08:57] <jerry> I was trying to install kmc-0.9 earlier
[08:57] <jerry> http://kmc.sourceforge.net/
[08:57] <RawSewage> http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/genpets.asp
[08:58] <Healot> read the info on how to compile it first, eh?
[09:00] <pc_butler> hi
[09:00] <pc_butler> were can i download source files?
[09:00] <Melchiorre> pc_butler: for what?
[09:00] <Healot> source of what?
[09:00] <Healot> the Force?
[09:00] <pc_butler> kubuntu
[09:01] <jerry> you know
[09:01] <pc_butler> amorak doesn't play my mp3
[09:01] <jerry> if someone can go to that much detail to make a model of a genpet. why can't someone finish it and actually make a genpet
[09:01] <pc_butler> it just scan over it
[09:01] <[Nige] > hi all
[09:01] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:01] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:01] <[Nige] > anyone having problems with thunderbird?
[09:01] <pc_butler> any 1 know amorak?
[09:02] <Melchiorre> I love amarok!
[09:02] <Healot> install the package above pc_butler, and may the source be with you
[09:02] <Healot> !multiverse
[09:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:02] <pc_butler> Healot, what pack?
[09:03] <Melchiorre> pc_butler: to get source files for Kubuntu, just enable the source repos (adept => Manage repositories and uncomment all the deb-src ones)
[09:03] <Healot> okay... no more telling stories, why people never take a serious look at the channel output?
[09:04] <pc_butler> Melchiorre, im at my office now on windows wnat to download it manually plse
[09:04] <[Nige] > !thunderbird
[09:04] <ubotu> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[09:04] <pc_butler> Healot, i've join just didn't display here
[09:05] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:05] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:05] <Healot> !multiverse
[09:05] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:05] <Melchiorre> pc_butler: hehe, no idea in that case, but as Healot said, try installing the extra codecs
[09:05] <pc_butler> this that ubotu display?
[09:05] <pc_butler> Melchiorre,
[09:06] <Melchiorre> this one:
[09:06] <Melchiorre>  !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:06] <Melchiorre> !info libxine-extracodecs
[09:06] <Healot> why no one listen to the bot?
[09:06] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[09:06] <Healot> feels like slapping people today
[09:06] <pc_butler> newbie alert
[09:06] <pc_butler> Healot,
[09:07] <Healot> it's not about being new... it's about reading between the bot's lines
[09:07] <pc_butler> thanx
[09:08] <Healot> or you can read more
[09:08] <Healot> !mp3
[09:08] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:08] <Healot> those links explains why mp3 is pain in our behind
[09:09] <Melchiorre> Healot, do you know if there is a list of topics the bot knows somewhere?
[09:09] <Healot> mostly the FAQ
[09:10] <[Nige] >  when I try adn start thunderbird  I get this from the command prompt: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[09:10] <Melchiorre> k
[09:10] <Healot> command like !find (to find package), !info for info on packages, etc...
[09:10] <knownot> is it okay to ask ubuntu questions in here, or should I got to the ubuntu channel?
[09:10] <Healot> yup... kubuntu is ubuntu
[09:11] <Healot> except ask gnome questions at #ubuntu
[09:11] <knownot> k
[09:11] <PasNox> hi
[09:11] <jerry> !Qt3
[09:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about Qt3
[09:11] <jerry> !Qt
[09:11] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[09:12] <PasNox> i need some help
[09:12] <knownot> I'm having a problem with the standard kernel, I have a dualcore pentium D 805, and it wont boot with the linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 image but will with the -23-686 image, any idea?
[09:13] <PasNox> i can t install nvidia proprietary drivers, x say unable to load a submodule of glx, any ides ? last kubuntu dapper
[09:13] <PasNox> ideas*
[09:13] <Healot> linux-686-smp
[09:13] <knownot> PasNox: Did you install the drivers from the restricted repo, nvidia-glx?
[09:14] <knownot> Healot: no -smp in dapper
[09:14] <PasNox> knownot: i m new on kubuntu, and i have no internet at home yet. so i dl driver on nvidia.com and install them in console
[09:14] <PasNox> when i want to startx x
[09:14] <PasNox> i got these errors
[09:14] <Healot> !info linux-686-smp
[09:14] <ubotu> linux-686-smp: Complete Linux kernel on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:15] <PasNox> i let nvidia drivers write the xorg.conf , or manually renam nv to nvidia, but rror are same
[09:15] <knownot> thanks Healot, will reboot in a sec
[09:15] <PasNox> it tell too, can t load nvidia module, unknow module
[09:15] <PasNox> mayve cause of glx error ?
[09:16] <PasNox> maybe*
[09:16] <knownot> PasNox: I can end you the nvidia-glx package for you to try
[09:16] <PasNox> i can try now, im at work
[09:16] <PasNox> can t*
[09:16] <Healot> PasNox: you compiled the official nv packages or you're using the linux-restricted-module?
[09:17] <knownot> he compiled the nvidia drivers
[09:17] <PasNox> i have dl, run, official drivers from nvidia.com, then le installer build module itself
[09:18] <Healot> PasNox: remove the packages, revert the driver to vesa temporarily, and reconfigure/reinstall the linux-restricted module, and change the driver back to nv
[09:18] <PasNox> it s done
[09:19] <Healot> done what?
[09:19] <PasNox> does this appear to other users too ?
[09:19] <PasNox> back to nv driver
[09:19] <PasNox> i want to have nvidia module working
[09:19] <Healot> remove the packages installed by the official installer
[09:19] <PasNox> maybe some conf file to modif but don t know witch
[09:20] <Healot> that's the first thing...
[09:20] <PasNox> i have done already by nvidia-xxxx.run --unnstall
[09:20] <Healot> reinstall linux-restricted-module?
[09:20] <knownot> Healot: is linux-686-smp just a depend for the latest linux-image file, or some sort of patch?
[09:20] <PasNox> what do u mean by reinstall restricted module ?
[09:20] <PasNox> i have not remove module
[09:20] <knownot> PasNox: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:21] <PasNox> i repeat
[09:21] <Healot> knownot: it's a meta package that point to the latest kernel
[09:21] <Healot> !info linux-restricted-module
[09:21] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-module does not exist in dapper
[09:21] <PasNox> i have no internet connection at home, i m at work at the moment
[09:21] <Healot> !info linux-restricted-modules
[09:21] <ubotu> Package linux-restricted-modules does not exist in dapper
[09:21] <Healot> bs
[09:21] <knownot> Healot: I have the lastest package
[09:22] <PasNox> i have dl last kubuntu iso, so install is fresh, want to install official nvidia driver
[09:22] <knownot> Healot: it didn't doenload a new kernel, just the meta package
[09:22] <Healot> !info linux-restricted-modules-common
[09:22] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-common: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules helper script. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-2 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:22] <knownot> PasNox: nvidia-glx is the official driver
[09:22] <PasNox> yes
[09:22] <PasNox> but
[09:22] <PasNox> i got no internet conenction at home
[09:22] <PasNox> can t apg-get
[09:22] <Healot> PasNox: c'est non me probleme
[09:22] <PasNox> apt-get*
[09:23] <Healot> well, you have the CD right
[09:23] <PasNox> yes
[09:23] <Healot> the package is in the CD
[09:23] <PasNox> kubuntu 6.06 dapper
[09:23] <PasNox> ?
[09:23] <PasNox> official nvidia drivers are on cd ?
[09:23] <PasNox> no
[09:24] <Healot> PasNox: you can download the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[09:24] <knownot> PasNox: that is why they are in the restricted repo
[09:24] <Healot> make sure you download the dependencies too
[09:24] <PasNox> oki
[09:25] <PasNox> can u tell me witch file i need to have nvidia drivers ?
[09:25] <Healot> !info linux-restricted-modules-common
[09:25] <ubotu> linux-restricted-modules-common: Non-free Linux 2.6.15 modules helper script. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 2.6.15.11-2 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 88 kB
[09:25] <Healot> info nvidia-glx
[09:25] <Healot> info nvidia-glx
[09:25] <knownot> is it okay to post links (URLS) in here?
[09:25] <Healot> !info nvidia-glx
[09:25] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In repository restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-2 (dapper), package size 3963 kB, installed size 12240 kB
[09:27] <Healot> related lynx are ok i think
[09:27] <PasNox> is there a way to download all package at once ?!
[09:27] <PasNox> so i can put this on my hard disk and tell the apt source to it ?
[09:27] <elknof1> !dma
[09:27] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA
[09:27] <Healot> sure use download manager, PasNox
[09:27] <Healot> PasNox: collect the packages in one directory
[09:28] <PasNox> how ?
[09:28] <Healot> then "sudo dpkg -i *.deb"
[09:28] <Healot> while on the directory
[09:28] <PasNox> im under firefox on windows x at the moment
[09:29] <knownot> http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15/nvidia-glx_1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-2_i386.deb
[09:29] <PasNox> thx
[09:29] <knownot> PasNox: get the package debmirror
[09:30] <PasNox> but i prefer to dl all repository at once, but i can as it s not ftp
[09:30] <knownot> it is for mirroring debian repos
[09:30] <knownot> PasNox: you can use ftp to download a mirror
[09:30] <PasNox> oh yes i want !
[09:30] <Healot> he still needs internet for that... well in his ubuntu machina
[09:30] <PasNox> can u tell me how ? and addresse N
[09:31] <PasNox> i got internet conenction at work
[09:31] <PasNox> so i can dl a mirror
[09:31] <PasNox> and copy it to my hard disk at home
[09:31] <knownot> Healot: it's about 10-20gig
[09:31] <knownot> * that was directed at PasNox
[09:31] <Healot> PasNox: okay, here my 3 cents
[09:33] <knownot> brb rebooting
[09:37] <[Nige] > everytime i restart my kubuntu box I have to type in xrandr -s 11 is there any way to stop me having to do this?
[09:39] <rus> oy mates
[09:39] <rus> can 2 pcs beconnected via a plain usb cable?
[09:39] <knownot> I was wrong about the kernels, linux-image-2.6.15-23-386 and 25-386 work, linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 and 25-686 dont
[09:39] <knownot> rus: no
[09:40] <Healot> there is special data link usb cable, but those are windows/mac exclusive
[09:40] <rus> krowner: needs a controller ?
[09:40] <Healot> those things are sucky btw
[09:40] <knownot> rus: you may be able to use a plain ethernet cable if one of the computers is recent
[09:40] <PasNox> thx for yr help guys
[09:40] <knownot> rus: you can with firewire
[09:40] <PasNox> i got to go
[09:40] <knownot> PasNox: cya
[09:41] <rus> dontr have that
[09:41] <elknof1> !paste
[09:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:41] <mikechong1010> hi
[09:41] <mikechong1010> anyone there?
[09:41] <knownot> mikechong1010: nope
[09:42] <mikechong1010> not even you?
[09:42] <knownot> Healot: any other ideas?
[09:42] <rus> krowner: you mean via LAN cards?
[09:42] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16824   <---how can i fix it??
[09:42] <Healot> what's the problem anyways?
[09:42] <knownot> rus: yes, without a switch/hub
[09:43] <mikechong1010> hey can anybody help? i've just finished installing the os, but it's not booting
[09:43] <rus> i miss one lan card
[09:44] <Healot> do you see the GRUB/Lilo boot loader
[09:44] <rus> thanx anyways
[09:45] <mikechong1010> healot: i see the nice kubuntu logo and the loading bar but it just becomes stagnant after that
[09:45] <knownot> mikechong1010: press esc when booting, then select boot with recovery mode
[09:45] <Healot> what is the last line (from the garbage you see) during the boot, mike
[09:46] <mikechong1010> i forget, it's really fast
[09:46] <mikechong1010> but the same thing happens on the livecd
[09:46] <Healot> dont forget next time
[09:46] <elknof1> mikechong1010, something like that happened to me, it was a failure in a line of xorg.conf, an error, like a coma or extra semicolumns...
[09:47] <elknof1> mikechong1010, in the section of resolution
[09:47] <Healot> btw. Any of you think that KT So is sexy, raise the di di
[09:47] <knownot> so knowone have any idea why the 686 kernel wont boot on a pentium D ?
[09:48] <knownot> brb
[09:48] <Healot> it should, what's the error btw?
[09:48] <knownot> Healot: no error, just freezes
[09:48] <Healot> safe mode?
[09:49] <Healot> i have dual mac... and no freeze
[09:49] <knownot> recovery mode freezes too
[09:50] <Healot> you know what, that doesn't help much, knownot
[09:50] <knownot> It's worked fine on the amd64 kernels, but I went to kubuntu x86 because of the hassles with 64bit support
[09:51] <Healot> choose le amd64-k8 kernel then
[09:51] <knownot> Healot: I know, but there is know other info, which is why I am asking in here
[09:51] <Healot> iirc, never encounter a nonbootable 686-smp with PentD
[09:51] <knownot> Healot: can you use an amd64 kernel in kubuntu 386?
[09:52] <Healot> for now? no...
[09:52] <Healot> since ubuntu isn't multiarch yet
[09:53] <Healot> the k7 kernel may work...
[09:53] <knownot> Healot: I rember reading some comments about problems booting 386 kernels on 64bit hardware, and even tried the options of disablina acpi and apic
[09:53] <Healot> yeah, just told you that won't work in ubuntu, yet
[09:53] <Healot> 64bit hardware or the 64bit release of ubuntu?
[09:53] <knownot> Healot: read it again
[09:54] <knownot> 32bit software on 64 bit hardware
[09:54] <Healot> no... I never encounter such problem
[09:54] <Healot> those people suck :)
[09:55] <knownot> lol, i don't have time to screw around with software because developers are to lazy to release 64bit soft
[09:55] <Healot> i have an palermo sempron and amd 64 xp, runs both 386 and amd64 distros fine
[09:56] <Healot> and even my duel 1.5ghz g4 works with the stock kernel fine
[09:56] <knownot> so it must be specific to my system then, hrmmm, might try and twiddle with the BIOS
[09:56] <NKjoep> hola
[09:56] <Healot> knownot: selfbuild or stock from dell etc?
[09:56] <knownot> bbs, going BIOS delving
[09:57] <Healot> all pc x86 are self-built, hardware chosen according to the HCL
[09:57] <knownot> self build, if you can call it that these days, foxconn mb
[09:58] <knownot> bbs, going BIOS delving...
[10:01] <knownot> ok, getting somewhere now, i'm in a 686 kernel
[10:02] <Healot> uname?
[10:02] <DaSkreech> ANyone knwo how to resize a photo in krita?
[10:02] <knownot> 2.6.15-25-686
[10:02] <knownot> but... only one cpu showing up
[10:03] <Healot> is it the smp kernel, that's why i need the uname
[10:04] <knownot> Linux desktop 2.6.15-25-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:34:19 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:04] <Healot> ho
[10:04] <Healot> wait
[10:04] <knownot> from uname -a
[10:04] <Healot> !smp
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Argh
[10:05] <DaSkreech> Krita is annoying
[10:05] <knownot> it is a smp kernel, but smp not working
[10:06] <knownot> I disabled the APIC to allow me to boot into a 686 kernel
[10:06] <Healot> knownot: change the entry in /boot/config-<kernel version> to enable duel cpu support
[10:11] <arso> wats the command that shows me harddisk and its partitions and space please
[10:12] <r0xz> arso: df -h
[10:16] <arso> i am having a bit of problem
[10:16] <arso> formatting with qtparted
[10:16] <arso> after commiting i get
[10:16] <arso> error im mkv.3
[10:26] <r0xz> arso: try it with cfdisk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cfdisk
[10:53] <xi0n> Anyone haveing frostwire problems in here?
[10:55] <cox377> does anyone know which port has to be added to the firefox to allow kopete to work?
[10:56] <sensei> cox377: That makes very little sense to me :O
[10:56] <cox377> sorry
[10:56] <sensei> kopete isn't dependant on firefox
[10:56] <cox377> firewall
[10:56] <cox377> not firefox
[10:56] <cox377> doh
[10:56] <sensei> Ah hehe, depends on which protocol you'll use with kopete
[10:56] <cox377> basically, installed firestarter and having to add the port of each app
[10:56] <cox377> MSN 1
[10:57] <sensei> Doesn't that work without opening ports, since kopete initiates the connection ?
[10:57] <sensei> Possibly/likely not file transfers though
[10:57] <_user> Hi, anyone knowing how to add the search field (above "All Applications") to the kde menu?
[10:57] <cox377> it just says there is an error connecting
[10:57] <cox377> same happened with his konversation
[10:58] <cox377> until i added the port to konversation
[10:58] <cox377> of*
[10:58] <sensei> So outgoing packets are blocked as well ?
[10:58] <sensei> Anyways, 1863 is the msn port
[10:58] <cox377> i would assume so
[10:59] <cox377> cheers for what
[10:59] <sensei> Any time
[10:59] <DaSkreech>  Oscar stuff just doesn't work on Kopete for me
[11:01] <domi> hello
[11:01] <sensei> alo
[11:03] <cox377> this may sound like a really weird quesion, i'm sure it's nothing to do with my speakers.. but when i load linux,.. there is no sound, and the only way i see to be able to get it is by opening XMMS playing a file and jumping the sound bar about, when i do that the speakers make a crackling sound then start working.. anyone got any ideas what the hell that could be?
[11:04] <Healot> haro, sensei
[11:04] <domi> bonjour a tous
[11:05] <Healot> bonjour domi, ca va?
[11:05] <sensei> Haro?
[11:05] <domi> j'ai un petit probleme d'installation d'imprimante hp colorlaser 1500
[11:05] <sensei> cox377: Maybe your volume is muted by deafault ?
[11:05] <domi> oui merci healot
[11:05] <sensei> cox377: Run alsamixer from a terminal
[11:05] <domi> et toi meme
[11:05] <Healot> what's the error, domi?
[11:06] <sensei> cox377: And when you've yanked the volume up, run alsactl store
[11:06] <_user> Does anyone how to add the search field (above "All Applications") to the kde menu?
[11:07] <cox377> alsactl: save_state:1190: Cannot open /var/lib/alsa/asound.state for writing
[11:08] <cox377> i've just been wacking the sound right from top to bottom and the crackling has started
[11:08] <cox377> just waiting to hear music
[11:08] <sensei> cox377: Try: sudo alsactl store
[11:09] <domi> personne pour m'aider????
[11:09] <sensei> Although if it takes a while for it to get going.. I doubt it's a volume issue
[11:09] <cox377> done that sensei, is there anything i should try net
[11:10] <cox377> nah i dont think it's a volume issue, just seems thats the catalyst to get it going
[11:10] <sensei> Not that I know of, I suck at sound issues.. and that sounds plenty weird
[11:10] <sensei> domi: Speak English please
[11:10] <Healot> le probleme? domi?
[11:10] <cox377> what was that command doing,  ? the one i just did?>
[11:11] <sensei> It saves the state your soundcard is in now, and then restores that whenever you do alsactl restore, which basically is done at boot (at least the same files are read)
[11:11] <cox377> Opps
[11:11] <cox377> i ran it when it was f**ked
[11:11] <sensei> The state volume wise
[11:11] <sensei> Shouldn't matter
[11:12] <cox377> i ran it when it was cracking and now it's just stayed crackling!! shall i do a restore then run that command when it works
[11:12] <sensei> Actually, this is just a stab in the dark, don't know if it really works.. but why not? Can't do any harm :)
[11:13] <cox377> gonna reboot
[11:15] <domi> je n'arrive pas a installer mon imprimante
[11:17] <sensei> http://img186.echo.cx/img186/8749/vi7kt.gif  some geek humour, wildly on topic.
[11:18] <zobi8225> j'y vais
[11:18] <zobi8225> @+
[11:18] <Healot> domi: you don;t know where to install you printer?
[11:18] <cox377> is there a command for reinstalling sound card?
[11:19] <domi> healot je ne parle pas anglais
[11:19] <Healot> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base"
[11:19] <Healot> je ne parle pas francais :)
[11:20] <Healot> oh
[11:20] <Healot> !fr
[11:20] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:20] <domi> merci ubotu
[11:21] <sensei> Vad kul det blir om alla snackar olika sprk!
[11:21] <sensei> domi: Eller hur?
[11:21] <Healot> !se
[11:21] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[11:21] <Healot> hoho
[11:21] <sensei> :)
[11:22] <Healot> damn language code
[11:27] <cox377> lol this sound issue is doing my nut
[11:27] <cox377> tested the speakers, defo not them, tested both driver types from the command given.. still no joy
[11:29] <sensei> Sounds really weird
[11:29] <cox377> yeh, very much so.. this is the first morning it's just stayed clicking
[11:30] <sensei> cox377: Btw, what soundcard have you got? Could it be a digital vs. analogue issue?
[11:30] <cox377> normally does it for 5 - 10 seconds then on pops the msic
[11:30] <cox377> Umm it's just an onboard one on a MSI motherboard
[11:30] <sensei> Because I had an audigy two once, and when I put the speakers in one outlet, it wouldn't sound anything in Linux (no noise though) while it did in Windows
[11:30] <sensei> Okay, only one outlet?
[11:31] <cox377> ****ing hell
[11:31] <cox377> the speakers were up full blast.. was looking through sopme commands and they almost exploded as the trance came on
[11:31] <cox377> lol
[11:31] <cox377> nah, has multiple outlets
[11:32] <sensei> hehe ouch
[11:32] <sensei> Try some other outlet(s)
[11:32] <cox377>    *-multimedia
[11:32] <cox377>              description: Multimedia audio controller
[11:32] <cox377>              product: VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller
[11:32] <cox377>              vendor: VIA Technologies, Inc.
[11:32] <cox377>              physical id: 11.5
[11:32] <cox377>              bus info: pci@00:11.5
[11:32] <cox377>              version: 60
[11:32] <cox377>              width: 32 bits
[11:32] <cox377>              clock: 33MHz
[11:32] <cox377>              capabilities: cap_list
[11:32] <cox377>              configuration: driver=VIA 82xx Audio
[11:32] <cox377>              resources: ioport:e500-e5ff irq:193
[11:33] <sensei> A pastebin is recommended for that amount of data ;)
[11:34] <sensei> cox377: Sorry, I can't help you any further.. only idea I have left is a kernel upgrade :/
[11:34] <cox377> I'm wondering now if it's a prob with the soundcard
[11:35] <sensei> You can't verify that in some other os ?
[11:35] <cox377> pulled out the jack and put it in the other sockets, put it back into the speaker socket and back to the crackling
[11:35] <cox377> under windowz it worked fine about a month ago
[11:35] <cox377> but.. lot could have happened since then
[11:35] <cox377> how do update kernal?
[11:36] <sensei> What's the output of uname -r on your system?
[11:36] <Healot> hum
[11:36] <cox377> what do u mean sensei?
[11:36] <sensei> Type 'uname -r' in a console and tell me what it says
[11:36] <Healot> cox377: he wants to see you kernel version
[11:37] <cox377> 2.6.15-25-386
[11:37] <sensei> That already is the latest
[11:37] <Healot> that;s the latest of stock kernel
[11:38] <Healot> if you feel liek getting the latest, download the source from kernel.org
[11:38] <cox377> lol.. i wouldn;t have the first clue about what to do with it
[11:40] <Healot> cox377: PREFER A better kernel, linux-686 maybe?
[11:40] <cox377> lol.. whats the difference
[11:41] <Healot> it is more optimized for Pentium 4
[11:41] <cox377> ahh
[11:41] <cox377> i'm running AMD
[11:41] <Healot> linux-k7 maybe?
[11:41] <Healot> or k8 for Athlon
[11:41] <cox377> Sempron 2300+,
[11:42] <cox377> cant remember which time that is
[11:42] <Healot> then k7
[11:42] <sensei> For 2800+ as well?
[11:42] <cox377> is 386 best suited for my chip then?
[11:43] <Healot> linux-k8 for both sempron and athlon xp
[11:43] <sensei> 386 is not best suited for any chip made after 1934 or sth
[11:43] <Healot> for all x86 cpu (386 and above)
[11:44] <sensei> Ih, there isn't a k8 image in my repo
[11:44] <Healot> isn't summer supposed to be hot
[11:44] <cox377> what do you guys recommened then?
[11:44] <Healot> hehe, it's on the amd64 64bit, sensei
[11:44] <Healot> for sempron, linux-k7
[11:45] <cox377> how do i go about upgrading or changing to that?
[11:45] <sensei> Healot: oh right :)
[11:45] <bam_> anyone know how to get superkaramba working?
[11:45] <Healot> ay ay ay karamba
[11:46] <bam_> hmmm guess not
[11:47] <Healot> I don't even know what that is
[11:47] <Healot> ay ay ay
[11:47] <cox377> is there anyway to update the kernal via command line?
[11:47] <cox377> like an apt-get?
[11:48] <bam_> yea if its in the repo then apt-get update
[11:48] <arso> wats the command to mount/unmount all drives please?
[11:48] <bam_> apt-get upgrade
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> cox377, sudo apt-get install linux-image-`arch`
[11:48] <bam_> umount -a
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, mount -a and umount -a
[11:48] <arso> Kamping_Kaiser:  i see, thank u
[11:48] <arso> Kamping_Kaiser:  need to add a sudo right>
[11:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> yep
[11:49] <arso> how abotu this command "sudo mount -t ext3 /ddev/hddx /mountpoint
[11:49] <Kamping_Kaiser> you shouldnt need -t ext3, but looks good
[11:49] <arso> i see
[11:49] <arso> thnx
[11:49] <sensei> I added that just to verify that the fs was indeed ext3 ;)
[11:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)\
[11:50] <sensei> Should have mentioned that, sry
[11:50] <arso> oh ur there
[11:50] <arso> its ok
[11:50] <arso> anyways , i finished another partition , and all seems fine, except its not appearing in storage devices
[11:51] <arso> sensei:  any idea why, i mae it ext2 with qtparted, then used the tune3fs .... command to make it ex3 and it seemed successful
[11:51] <sensei> Is it mounted?
[11:51] <arso> how can i make sure it is
[11:52] <arso> i did that "sudo mount -a"
[11:52] <sensei> And I have no idea what 'storage devices' is, I'm new to this distro
[11:52] <sensei> mount -a mounts everything that's in /etc/fstab , not all partitions
[11:52] <arso> its just the "my computer" equivalant
[11:52] <arso> ohh
[11:52] <arso> i'll just to a specific mount hold on
[11:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> you can check if its mounted with 'df -h' or 'mount'
[11:53] <arso> umm "
[11:53] <arso> sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mountpoint
[11:53] <arso> mount: mount point /mountpoint does not exist
[11:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> you havent made a directry called /mountpoint
[11:53] <arso> how do i make one?
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> sudo mkdir /mnt/MyPartitionHere
[11:54] <sensei> Didn't you write that down last night? :)
[11:54] <arso> no :P
[11:54] <arso> mypartition = hdb5?
[11:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> call it whaterver you like
[11:54] <arso> k
[11:55] <arso> just no need for /dev/ right?
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have a line in my fstab: /dev/sda /mnt/Storage (blah blah)
[11:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, the mkdir is where you will put the partitoin, mount says 'put it there'
[11:55] <cox377> i ran the command sudo apt-get install linux-image-`arch`
[11:56] <arso> ok so i created that directory, now wat?
[11:56] <cox377> and it said it cant find package linux-image-i686
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> now mount into it
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> cox377, try linux-image-686
[11:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> or linux-686 if you want restricted modules installed as well
[11:56] <Healot> linux-686 is enough
[11:57] <arso> with sudo mount /dev/hdb5
[11:57] <cox377> i just inalled the K7, shall i reboot and see what thats like first?
[11:57] <Healot> yup
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> cox377, what cpu do you have?
[11:57] <arso> sudo mount /dev/hdb5
[11:57] <arso> mount: can't find /dev/hdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:57] <Healot> try it, taste it
[11:57] <arso> sorry i must be messing something up
[11:57] <cox377> koolio
[11:57] <cox377> brb
[11:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/MyPartitionHere
[11:58] <arso> ok
[11:58] <arso> done that
[11:58] <arso> ok iam done :
[11:58] <arso> its appeared now
[11:58] <arso> thanx
[11:58] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[11:59] <arso> but will i have to do that create directory, everytime?
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> no
[11:59] <arso> ok thnx
[11:59] <arso> i am off to windows now, to free up another partition, bye
[11:59] <Kamping_Kaiser> the directory is now made, you have to add a line to /etc/fstab to make it automount on boot
[12:00] <Kamping_Kaiser> later
[12:00] <arso> Kamping_Kaiser:  oh ya, how do i make all automount when i restart?
[12:00] <cox377> well the sound is working straight out of the box which is an advantage
[12:01] <arso> or does it do that on its own, and one more thing please, how do i become root user?
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, add a line to /etc/fstab '/dev/hdb5 /mnt/MyPartitionHere ext3 defaults 0 0' iirc
[12:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, why do you want to be root?
[12:01] <Healot> sudo passwd root
[12:01] <arso> umm i was told , if i write data on an ext3 from windows, i need to be root on linux to access it
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, thtas not true
[12:02] <arso> oh?
[12:02] <Healot> but this could be disaster if you forget your own password and the root password
[12:02] <cox377> is there a linux benchtest? to see if there is any performance differences?
[12:02] <arso> nah its an easy pass for me
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> but you probably shouldnt write to ext3 from windows
[12:02] <arso> why not?
[12:02] <arso> i am dual booting, its my only option, i got an ext driver
[12:02] <sensei> That kind of depends on the implementation of the software that's writing to ext3
[12:02] <Kamping_Kaiser> the ext3 drivers are not usualy stable
[12:02] <sensei> It may very well set those permissions
[12:03] <arso> oh
[12:03] <arso> so then wat do dual booters usually do?
[12:03] <arso> seperate partitions for each OS
[12:03] <sensei> You can just as well read from the fat or ntfs disk from linux, as write from windows to linux
[12:03] <sensei> Not 'just as well'.. better
[12:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> arso, usualy have a fat32 shared partition
[12:04] <Healot> i have Partition Magic for that
[12:04] <arso> Kamping_Kaiser:  but i heard fat32 sux, max filesize 2gb and stuff
[12:04] <Healot> no FAT32 as it is fairly isn't secure and the disk limit?
[12:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> fat32 sucks, but linux can write it safely
[12:05] <mth`MAW> hi ther
[12:05] <mth`MAW> e
[12:05] <kfarrell> just a quicky, what's the kde version of Synaptic
[12:05] <arso> adept
[12:05] <arso> i need something that can be written on with windows AND linux perfectly
[12:05] <Healot> FAT32 then
[12:05] <arso> only options i found were fat32 which sux, or ext3 and windows drivers for it fs drivers.com
[12:06] <kfarrell> ahh adept. I thought it was kynaptic or something
[12:06] <arso> so is ext3 THAT unsecure on windows?
[12:06] <kfarrell> ty
[12:06] <arso> anytime
[12:06] <Healot> or get Symantec Partition Magic
[12:06] <sensei> arso: I wouldn't use it in a production environment..
[12:06] <sensei> But then again, wouldn't use fat32 in one either :)
[12:06] <arso> lol
[12:06] <arso> oh well
[12:07] <arso> anyways, i wont be using WINDOWS that much
[12:07] <arso> mostly linux
[12:07] <arso> but just when i have to i will
[12:07] <arso> so i guess
[12:07] <arso> i am set
[12:07] <sensei> And for shuffling files, fat32 is the best way to go unless you possess a fileserver of some kind
[12:07] <usama> i have install ubuntu, when i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it says that it will download 156MBs from internet but i wanna use my kubuntu cd to install kde, can anyone guide me?
[12:08] <kfarrell> just install kubuntu?
[12:08] <arso> lol
[12:08] <sensei> heh
[12:08] <Healot> usama: comment out the internet repos lines
[12:08] <kfarrell> seriously, I find ubuntu and kubuntu is too confusing at the same time
[12:08] <Healot> run sudo apt-cdrom add, enter kubuntu CD
[12:09] <Healot> update the repos list... then isntall kubuntu-desktop
[12:09] <arso> hey "sudo pswd root" isnt working
[12:09] <arso> how do i sign in as root
[12:10] <Healot> sudo passwd root
[12:10] <arso> do i type my passwd or type "passwed"
[12:10] <Healot> or sudo -i <>next enter your password
[12:11] <arso> sorry trying to mount the partition i formatted yesterday "
[12:11] <arso> udo mount /dev/hdd6 /mnt/hdd6
[12:11] <arso> mount: mount point /mnt/hdd6 does not exist
[12:11] <arso> and its "sudo" just didnt copy right
[12:11] <arso> wtF?
[12:11] <sensei> d'oh.. mkdir
[12:11] <arso> i thought i dont need to anymore, full command please :D
[12:12] <sensei> Actually, I won't spoon feed you any more.. You clearly just cut and paste whatever I/we say without even trying to understand..
[12:12] <sensei> That won't get you anywhere, and that mentality will usually end you up in windows after a month anyway
[12:13] <Healot> read the documentation on Windows Migration yet?
[12:13] <arso> no,? wats that
[12:13] <sensei> "Give a man a fish..." etc.
[12:13] <Healot> I'll program for a bike sounds cool
[12:13] <Healot> better than the "give me x, man"
[12:14] <arso> ok , i will read up
[12:14] <arso> just dont wanna mess up my data, years of stuff
[12:14] <sensei> Even bigger reason to read up ;)
[12:14] <cox377> lol back it up then
[12:14] <Healot> that's on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:14] <arso> yes sir
[12:14] <arso> oh great, i need to get to the airport to pick up some ppl
[12:14] <arso> bbl
[12:14] <arso> thanx a lot everyone
[12:15] <arso> i WILL learn how to fish
[12:15] <sensei> Good :)
[12:15] <arso> later
[12:15] <sensei> laters
[12:15] <arso> so many commands, how did u learn them all :S argh
[12:16] <sensei> Just like any language I guess :)
[12:16] <arso> wow, lol, i guess i just need a few years
[12:16] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntuFromWindows >> why this isn't popularized?
[12:16] <arso> bb
[12:16] <Jack1> hi i want to make some webpages offline useable, easier in konqueror or firefox and how?
[12:17] <sensei> No, it's pretty quick if you're normally equipped up there and actually want to learn
[12:17] <cox377> I've beem on kubuntu now for 3 weeks, truely amazing in terms of community
[12:17] <Healot> cache them Jack1
[12:17] <Healot> in Konq, Tool->Archive Page
[12:18] <nekromaan> mahlzeit, ich hab ubuntu installiert, ist es mglich ubuntu-desktop zu deinstallieren whrend ich das kubuntu-system laufen habe?
[12:18] <cox377> lol
[12:18] <Jack1> Healot ok, dont need to save it? as save as...<? and how do i specify until level of the page i want to save it?
[12:18] <Jack1> nekromaan i guess via synaptic
[12:19] <Healot> I am not sure about that... It should save the page and the pictures/object that the page loaded
[12:19] <sensei> !rules
[12:19] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[12:19] <Healot> nekromaan: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <nekromaan> jack1, is this an english channel ^^? wont be there any problems with the system?
[12:19] <nekromaan> Healot i want to aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop ;)
[12:20] <sensei> nekromaan: It's safe to assume that most channels here not suffixed with -at or .at is English ;)
[12:20] <Jack1> Healot i look at a page eg with lots of hotels, would i now to browse all of them then to get it archived?
[12:20] <nekromaan> sensei, oups ok ^^
[12:21] <Jack1> nekromaan in case u have chosen kdm as the default window manager it shouldnt be a problem at all
[12:21] <Healot> yeah, jack, it will save anything that the page loaded
[12:21] <Healot> and built the directory accordingly
[12:22] <Healot> Jack1: try it may, as I am trying the same thing too
[12:22] <Healot> deinstallieren > sorry missed the de in front
[12:23] <Jack1> HEALOT u german?
[12:24] <Healot> i can read german, but lacking of proficiency
[12:24] <Jack1> deinstallieren whats the matter with it?
[12:24] <Healot> btw, another way to download... the page
[12:24] <Healot> via wget
[12:24] <Healot> and the switches are hell
[12:24] <sensei> Yeah, wget can do recursiveness
[12:25] <Jack1> ok
[12:25] <Healot> Jack1: i thought he want to install ubuntu-desktop, but instead he wants to remove it, because i missed the "de"
[12:25] <Jack1> just terminal wget website or wget -r?
[12:25] <Jack1> lol
[12:26] <sensei> The -m is maybe more suitable
[12:26] <Healot> wget -r -l=<limit of recursion> <URL>
[12:26] <sensei> That's infinite recursion though
[12:26] <Healot> but there are other options
[12:26] <Jack1> curl is there too i just read
[12:26] <Healot> that would suit your need
[12:27] <Jack1> eg curl www.google.com > mypage.html
[12:27] <Healot> curly curl
[12:28] <Jack1> healot so in the <>i specify the limit of recursion?
[12:28] <sensei> wget -r -l 2 http://www.myfavpornsite.com
[12:28] <Kamping_Kaiser> yuo dont put in the <>
[12:28] <Healot> -l=2 if you want download two directories from the current
[12:29] <sensei> That'll follow links in two depths
[12:29] <Healot> but curl is great
[12:29] <Healot> but not installed by default
[12:29] <Healot> summer is hot
[12:30] <Jack1> HEALOT SRY but 3 eg would mean if i have hotel.com,with link to hotel-regent.com , with link to hotel-regen-carpark.com that it would save those two directories but not furher right?
[12:31] <sensei> Jack1: Yes
[12:31] <Jack1> curl or wget better guys?
[12:31] <kfarrell> another quicky, how do I change my time so it shows local
[12:31] <sensei> It will save hotel-regen-carpark.com too, but none of the contents
[12:32] <Jack1> it says here curl would write by default to standard output
[12:32] <sensei> kfarrell: I use date -s.. but I'm sure there's some ubuntu way of doing it
[12:32] <sensei> Jack1: Just go with wget, and if that doesn't suit you, then start looking at curl :)
[12:32] <kfarrell> Jack1:  wget rocks man
[12:32] <Jack1> right sensei
[12:33] <sensei> (unless you pay your ISP by the byte, in which case being sure before starting is a good idea)
[12:33] <sensei> kfarrell: Kmenu -> System settings -> On the bottom, Date & Time
[12:34] <kfarrell> ok to answer my own question: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Setting_Local_Time
[12:34] <sensei> If you feel uncomfortable with cli
[12:35] <kfarrell> thanks for your ongoping help, this channel rocks, bbl
[12:37] <Jack1> guys where would i find the wget stuff that i downloaded and hwo do i stop wget?
[12:37] <sensei> wget saves nin your pwd, and you stop it with ^C
[12:37] <sensei> saves in*
[12:39] <Jack1> sensei -k would mean to modify links so i dont go online when i have the file downliaded i just brwse it right
[12:40] <haffe> Hello.
[12:40] <hycris> hello
[12:40] <hycris> haffe
[12:40] <hycris> I've figure out the invalid pointer of skype
[12:41] <hycris> anyone want to know?
[12:41] <hycris> haha
[12:41] <emonkey> just tell
[12:41] <emonkey> I'm listening 
[12:41] <matko> anybody have source.list that use Automatix?
[12:41] <sensei> Jack1: isn't -k 'keep' ? As in it's overwriting files with the same name ?
[12:41] <sensei> hycris: Shoot
[12:41] <hycris> it is incompliance with scim
[12:41] <hycris> I guess
[12:42] <hycris> When i switch back to english
[12:42] <hycris> it all works fine
[12:42] <hycris> hehe
[12:42] <haffe> Ok, I'm back.
[12:42] <sensei> hycris: Ah, good to know
[12:43] <haffe> I followed a howto on enabling Xgl on kubuntu. But now all my windows seem to have lost their borders.
[12:43] <hycris> xgl, fabulous
[12:43] <hycris> but if i were u
[12:43] <haffe> Yes, works great with gnome.
[12:43] <hycris> I would try korozaa live cd
[12:44] <hycris> I hate crash in my laptop
[12:44] <hycris> good luck guys. happy to join u. bye
[12:44] <sensei> Bye
[12:44] <sensei> Jack1: It's NOT overwriting I meant
[12:45] <Jack1> sensei what s pwd
[12:45] <Jack1> ?
[12:45] <sensei> Jack1: Try the command `pwd`
[12:46] <Jack1> sure i know oki thx
[12:46] <sensei> np
[12:47] <sensei> Gotta jet, laters and good luck everyone with a prob
[12:52] <Jack1> bye sensei and thx
[01:03] <Jack1> guys sensei wget doesnt work so right where can i find the archive webpage plugin for konqui i dont find it in synaptic
[01:10] <ubuntu> wow kubuntu 6.06 is cool
[01:12] <hollywoodstar> say a C compiler ?
[01:12] <hollywoodstar> ah
[01:12] <hollywoodstar> GCC
[01:13] <hollywoodstar> found it
[01:13] <apokryphos> hollywoodstar: with regard to compiling, please see the FAQ
[01:14] <hollywoodstar> kthx
[01:22] <BKaj> Howdy, still trying to get Mplayer to work in dapper,I'm denied access to make the file executable in order to install it.
[01:22] <RawSewage> why are you doing that
[01:22] <RawSewage> it's in the repos
[01:26] <BKaj> yeah, I tried reinstalling but I;m still unable to launch it and it's not listed in the k-menu either
[01:26] <hollywoodstar> I have a question
[01:26] <hollywoodstar> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel ?
[01:26] <BKaj> hollywoodstar: with a nick like that how can anyone resist :)
[01:27] <hollywoodstar> resist what ?
[01:27] <BKaj> answering, but I can'r help , sorry
[01:27] <hollywoodstar> ok
[01:27] <hollywoodstar> :/
[01:27] <RawSewage> BKaj, check Lost and Found
[01:28] <RawSewage> MPlayer ends up in there for some reason
[01:28] <BKaj> in the cmd line ?
[01:28] <RawSewage> no, in KMenu
[01:30] <RawSewage> try restarting X-Server
[01:30] <RawSewage> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[01:43] <BKaj> hmm  I run the Mplayer installer pkg in Konq , the player appears to be installed but it won't launch cuz it can't find the executable file. I find the installer file but don't have sufficient access to write the file ( to click the executeable box cuz it's greyed out) .
[01:44] <gupta> Anybody else getting 'thick' printouts?
[01:44] <BKaj> heh, I can't get the network printer to print amongst other probs
[01:56] <MidMark> hi
[01:56] <MidMark> why this command dcop kmix Mixer0 setMute 0 true don't work?
[01:56] <MidMark> what's wrong?
[01:59] <MidMark> nothing that use dcop?
[02:00] <nfechner> MidMark: void setMute(int deviceidx,bool on)
[02:00] <nfechner> you're missing a parameter
[02:00] <mrmist> Got a problem with mplayer in mozilla
[02:00] <MidMark> nfechner: o and true -> int and bool
[02:00] <MidMark> 0 and true
[02:00] <mrmist> the frame where the video is supposed to be, it's just a       grey frame. The audio plays fine
[02:00] <nfechner> oh, missed that#
[02:01] <MidMark> nfechner: can you try in your pc?
[02:01] <MidMark> for me doesn't work
[02:01] <nfechner> works
[02:01] <nfechner> cool
[02:01] <MidMark> damn
[02:01] <BKaj> hmm  I run the Mplayer installer pkg in Konq , the player appears to be installed but it won't launch cuz it can't find the executable file. I find the installer file but don't have sufficient access to write the file ( to click the executeable box cuz it's greyed out) .
[02:01] <|lostbyte|> arafat, It not good..
[02:02] <MidMark> nfechner: my line exactly?
[02:02] <nfechner> stupid question maybe: is 0 the right deviceidx?
[02:02] <MidMark> nfechner: how can I understand?
[02:02] <nfechner> besides, what does it say
[02:02] <nfechner> do you get any error?
[02:02] <MidMark> no
[02:02] <MidMark> nothing
[02:03] <mrmist> guys ? Why is my every mplayer frame grey? No video shows up. The audio is fine though
[02:03] <MidMark> I have kde 3.5.3
[02:03] <nfechner> can you open the kmix window and see if one of the other "lamps" go dark?
[02:04] <nfechner> when you enter the command
[02:04] <|lostbyte|> mrmist, codecs ?
[02:04] <mrmist> |lostbyte|: The audio wouldn't play if the codecs were wrong, would they?
[02:05] <mrmist> |lostbyte|: It's in firefox the frame is grey. the standalone app is fine
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> mrmist, audio is usually mp3 raw etc.. which is present..
[02:05] <MidMark> nfechner: mmm also kmix doesn't mute itself!
[02:05] <|lostbyte|> mrmist, oh ! then what plugin are you using ?
[02:05] <MidMark> nfechner: I think something is changes in alsa 1.0.11 that I have installed yesterday
[02:05] <nfechner> even when you click the light?
[02:06] <MidMark> nfechner: right click on the icon -> mute -> still sound
[02:06] <nfechner> have you opened the window?
[02:07] <MidMark> I have no light for channels
[02:07] <nfechner> interesting
[02:07] <fabrice_> hello ! I'm nex in unix and kumbutu... do you know how to install a z35 printer ?
[02:07] <nfechner> MidMark: might be that the new alsa ist really incompatible. Do you really need it?
[02:08] <MidMark> nfechner: lights only for capture volume
[02:08] <MidMark> nfechner: I have problems with duplications of sound from front to rear
[02:08] <MidMark> alsa said to me to try to update to 1.0.11
[02:08] <MidMark> and I've done it
[02:08] <nfechner> MidMark: hm
[02:09] <MidMark> nfechner: of course still no surround (duplicated) for example with amarok
[02:09] <MidMark> don't know if I have explained well the problem
[02:09] <MidMark> nfechner: I have surround ONLY with vlc
[02:09] <nfechner> MidMark: sorry, don't know any further
[02:09] <MidMark> nfechner: ok thanx anyway :)
[02:11] <larson9999> tabbed browsing:  i don't get it.  can someone tell me how you quickly switch between tabs as this quots from the site says you can?  Tabbed Browsing
[02:11] <larson9999> Use tabbed browsing to open multiple Web pages in a single browser window, and quickly flip back and forth.
[02:14] <gupta> larson9999: there?
[02:14] <larson9999> gupta yeah
[02:14] <gupta> ctrl+tab or rightclik+wheel
[02:14] <gupta> the wheel thing is only in opera though
[02:15] <larson9999> aha
[02:15] <gupta> or in opera you can press 1,2 numbad keys as well
[02:15] <debian1> kde 3.5.3 does not remember "open with" preferences
[02:15] <debian1> ?
[02:16] <debian1> any fix for this?
[02:18] <mrmist> |lostbyte|: I'm usin "mozilla-mplayer" plugin
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> mrmist, i use moz-plugge
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> moz-plugger
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> comes in the repos
[02:21] <BKaj> does anyone have KMPLAYER working in Dapper ?
[02:21] <larson9999> ubuntu isn't treating my fat32 drives as nicely as mandriva did
[02:21] <MidMark> BKaj: yes I have
[02:22] <BKaj> cool , how do I make the the file executable ?
[02:22] <mrmist> |lostbyte|: I'll try that, thanks :)
[02:22] <mrmist> bye
[02:23] <MidMark> BKaj: I have done nothing than installing via adept mplayer and kmplayer
[02:29] <SaTaN`> hello
[02:29] <SaTaN`> can i ask, where can i select a newly installed theme?
[02:30] <SaTaN`> where can i select a newly installed theme?
[02:30] <BKaj> oops, MidMark , I was about to say that I reinstalled kmplayer thru synaptic, but it still won't launch due to lack of permission :(
[02:31] <BKaj> I don't understand
[02:31] <BKaj> why
[02:32] <BKaj> anyone ?
[02:32] <|lostbyte|> SaTaN`, kcontrol
[02:33] <SeanTater> SaTaN`: or System Settings
[02:33] <|lostbyte|> !search theme
[02:33] <ubotu> Found: themes, changethemes, superkaramba, moodin
[02:33] <|lostbyte|> !changethemes
[02:33] <ubotu> Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE)
[02:39] <macconline> hi... this error what is??
[02:39] <GBoS> what error?
[02:39] <macconline> E: No se pudo abrir el fichero de bloqueo '/var/lib/apt/lists/lock' - open (13 Permiso denegado)
[02:39] <macconline> ?? thanks
[02:39] <macconline> i use apt-get update
[02:40] <macconline> and view this error
[02:40] <zorglu1> prepend sudo to the command
[02:40] <zorglu1> sudo apt-get update
[02:40] <zorglu1> it will give you root/admin persmission to update the packages
[02:41] <macconline> iguality... the error is equal
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> what other mp3 players is there apart from amarok/xmms
[02:41] <Tommy2k4> well, audio players
[02:41] <|lostbyte|> macconline, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:41] <zorglu1> mp321, xmms
[02:42] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, mplayer
[02:42] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, xine
[02:42] <ukasz> hi
[02:42] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, vlc
[02:42] <Tommy2k4> that can handle m3u (or an alternative)
[02:42] <ukasz> how to put my computer and trash icon on desktop?
[02:43] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, xmms, amarok and mplayer.. didt try other's for m3u
[02:43] <macconline> |lostbyte|:
[02:43] <Tommy2k4> amarok is crashing when i try to viewmy playlist for some reason
[02:44] <Tommy2k4> and xmms doesnt have global shortcuts :(
[02:44] <macconline> thanks... it ok.... --configure -a, what is?
[02:45] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, try disabling that dynamic option in the status bar.
[02:45] <ukasz> how to put my computer and trash icon on desktop?
[02:45] <ukasz> how to put my computer and trash icon on desktop?
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> macconline, to reconfigure your db in case of a lock.
[02:46] <apokryphos> !trash
[02:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about trash
[02:46] <zorglu1> ukasz: by repeating the question more often :)
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> ukasz, right click > create new >
[02:46] <apokryphos> !repeat > ukasz
[02:46] <Tommy2k4> |lostbyte|, in amarok?
[02:46] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, yeah !
[02:46] <macconline> |lostbyte|: ok, very thanks....
[02:47] <Tommy2k4> i dont see a status bar nor a dynamic option
[02:47] <visik7> is there a way to power on off usb ports via /sys or /proc or some other way ?
[02:47] <ergin> is there any turkish here ?
[02:47] <tux> [sry4spam]  got the stranged problem i've ever had........   I installed Kubuntu (again) yesterday and tried to get samba or nfs working...... I installed all needed packages, i edited my smb.conf..... portmap is running... smbd is running.... nmbd is running.... but it doesnt work. portmap -p WONT give me any informations, it simply doesnt says anything. Im sure i made anything right. Please come & join my problem........
[02:47] <zorglu1> visik7: i would be surprised. why do you need this ?
[02:48] <visik7> zorglu1: I've a usb light and a usb fan  isn't a device but I want to switch it on or off
[02:48] <zorglu1> visik7: wow :) ok this is very unlikely to work :)
[02:49] <visik7>  zorglu1 under windows is possible
[02:49] <|lostbyte|> visik7, huh ! i think by removing the usb module that supports it.. dont know exactly..
[02:49] <zorglu1> visik7: well then you should run window :)
[02:49] <visik7> zorglu1: no
[02:49] <visik7> zorglu1: I run linux and I want that feature
[02:49] <zorglu1> removing the power of usb port on the fly
[02:49] <|lostbyte|> tux, Sorry ! no idea..
[02:49] <visik7> I don't want to use that crappy os
[02:49] <zorglu1> visik7: this is cool :) this is open source, you can code it and contribute the whole
[02:49] <tux> |lostbyte|: thought so -.-
[02:50] <visik7> zorglu1: I'm not able
[02:50] <zorglu1> well everybody is able to contribute
[02:50] <zorglu1> please do :)
[02:51] <zorglu1> visik7: ok to have a definitive answer on the usb disabeling thing, you can try specic usb mailing list for linux
[02:51] <visik7> I'm not able to code
[02:51] <visik7> btw
[02:51] <tux> I thought i would be able to get at least SAMBA running, as i did it 50 times before, but it simply doesnt work and im at the end of my tries...
[02:51] <|lostbyte|> visik7, Windows is not crappy.. computer illiterate make them..
[02:51] <visik7> I'll keep googling
[02:51] <zorglu1> well you may not know how to code. but people can learn :)
[02:52] <zorglu1> and there are many other way to contribute
[02:52] <zorglu1> documentation, translation, donating money to people working for free
[02:52] <tux> ----has anyone here ever had the problem that portmap -p simply doesnt say anything?----
[02:52] <zorglu1> nope i dont use nfs
[02:53] <tux> samba?
[02:53] <zorglu1> nope
[02:53] <visik7> zorglu1: I know how to contribute I just asking if there is a way to disable usb port
[02:53] <tux> instead?
[02:53] <zorglu1> i use sshfuse... it may not fit your need tho :)
[02:53] <zorglu1> visik7: ok and i answered to the best of my knowledge :)
[02:53] <visik7> ok thank you :)
[02:53] <tux> but u can share through sshfuse?
[02:54] <zorglu1> tux, ssh fuse is a module which allow you to access remote disk thru ssh as if they were local
[02:54] <tux> this is nice, too
[02:54] <zorglu1> tux, the remote end needs to support scp tho
[02:54] <tux> need portmap to use it?
[02:54] <zorglu1> nope :)
[02:55] <tux> nice
[02:55] <tux> gonna find some howto ^^
[02:55] <ubuntu> help please
[02:55] <tux> yeah ubuntu?
[02:56] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to turn kubuntu into a file server using samba?
[02:56] <tux> have installed all needed packages?
[02:57] <tux> like samba-common ?
[02:58] <ubuntu> appreciate if you could tell me how to check for that
[02:58] <tux> ok
[02:58] <tux> go in adept
[02:58] <ubuntu> yeah
[02:58] <tux> left top corner
[02:58] <tux> ADEPT ->
[02:59] <tux> Manage Repor...
[02:59] <ubuntu> yeah
[02:59] <tux> is only the first line black and the others gray?
[02:59] <tux> oder added already some sources?
[03:00] <ubuntu> first two lines black ... others gray
[03:00] <tux> right-click on the line where anything is told about CD-ROM and "disable"
[03:01] <tux> all other lines down, which are gray and start with "deb" rightr click and "enable"
[03:01] <tux> then click "Fetch Updates"
[03:01] <tux> no
[03:01] <tux> first "apply"
[03:01] <tux> then fetch
[03:02] <ubuntu> I think i know where you going tux .... u want me to download the samba-common package right?
[03:02] <tux> right =)
[03:03] <tux> newbie or experienced?
[03:03] <ubuntu> newbie tux .... I am used to Windows NT
[03:03] <tux> thats y i told in these little steps
[03:03] <ubuntu> been trying to configure the smb.conf for ages
[03:04] <tux> first need samba-common
[03:04] <zorglu1> providing command line are faster as the 'client' can easily cut/paste
[03:04] <ubuntu> appreciate your help very much tux
[03:04] <zorglu1> tux: providing command line are faster as the 'client' can easily cut/paste  <- just a random remark on helping :)
[03:04] <ubuntu> what else do i need tux?
[03:05] <tux> wait a second
[03:05] <Giniley> ubuntu: do Alt-F2 -> sudo apt-get install samba-common
[03:05] <tux> zorglu1: right ^^
[03:07] <ubuntu> zorgul am i right to say I need to install "putty" for cut & paste?
[03:07] <zorglu1> ubuntu, i would not know, i dont understnd your question
[03:08] <zorglu1> cut/past is provided by default on kubuntu, hopefully :)
[03:08] <tux> =)
[03:08] <ubuntu> I was hoping it was provided for by default
[03:09] <tux> ubuntu to cut and paste simply mark the text u wanna copy and where you wanna put it click "middle mouse"
[03:09] <zorglu1> ubuntu, anything makeing you think it isnt ?
[03:10] <ubuntu> yup coz I googled and the info i got was that you need 'putty' to cut & paste in linux. but i think that's outdated
[03:10] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, lolz.
[03:10] <zorglu1> ubuntu, cut/paste is provided by default. you dont need to add anything
[03:10] <ubuntu> just for your info I am thinking of replacing a Windows NT4.0 server with kubuntu
[03:11] <tux> |lostbyte|: laughing wont help...
[03:11] <Loth77> hello
[03:11] <tux> ubuntu best choice u ever made ;)
[03:11] <|lostbyte|> tux, Sorry <:|
[03:11] <ubuntu> all i need is to learn how to configure the smb.conf file
[03:11] <tux> dont have to |lostbyte| ^^
[03:11] <BKaj> stickynotes works
[03:11] <tux> it wont help u to configure it, if u havent the samba-common ubuntu
[03:12] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, you dont have too..
[03:12] <Loth77> i have installed Xgl and compiz, it works great, but i have a problem with font size... has anyone had troubles lik this? (fonts is extremely small)
[03:12] <tux> so got it meanwhile?
[03:12] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, check with dpkg -l | grep samba
[03:13] <|lostbyte|> Loth77, Increase it then..
[03:13] <ubuntu> i see ... ok lets say i got samba-common, could you give me a rough guide on how to make samba work?
[03:13] <tux> yeah...
[03:14] <Loth77> useless... all system fonts are small... i can't change menu fonts... conqueror fonts...
[03:14] <Loth77> desktop fonts...
[03:14] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, here a gui tool -----------> sudo kcmshell kcmsambaconf
[03:14] <|lostbyte|> type that in konsole.
[03:14] <zorglu1> Loth77: it is a very specific question, the channel dedicated to xgl/compiz may be more helpfull on this
[03:15] <Loth77> oki :)
[03:15] <|lostbyte|> Loth77, Go to kcontrol..
[03:15] <Loth77> kubuntu-xgl?
[03:15] <zorglu1> #xgl
[03:15] <Loth77> i tried with kcontrol.... but i can't change all system fonts i need to :(
[03:15] <|lostbyte|> Loth77, Opps ! miss read.
[03:15] <zorglu1> Loth77: the topic has a link specific to ubuntu
[03:16] <Loth77> zorglu... sorry... what do you mean? :)
[03:16] <ubuntu> lostbyte ... yup I got into that screen
[03:16] <zorglu1> Loth77: the topic of #xgl has a link specific to xgl + ubuntu
[03:16] <tux> ubuntu, i thing all you need is descripted HERE
[03:16] <tux> http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/samba.htm#_Toc91165131
[03:16] <ubuntu> but its all greyed out
[03:17] <tux> thing = think ^^
[03:17] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, Learn to use that gui.. to set up your samba.
[03:17] <Loth77> ok
[03:17] <Loth77> i'm looking in the forums now
[03:17] <zorglu1> ok
[03:17] <Loth77> in the xgl formus
[03:17] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, its all there...
[03:17] <|lostbyte|> ubotu, best of luck..
[03:18] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, ^
[03:18] <ubuntu> thank you lostbyte ... much appreciated!
[03:18] <|lostbyte|> ;)
[03:18] <tux> ubuntu, when its all greyed out u HAVENT samba-common
[03:18] <Wes> #ubuntu-es
[03:18] <tux> try get in Konsole and type "sudo apt-get install samba-common"
[03:18] <Wes> #kubuntu-es
[03:18] <ubuntu> tux thanks for you help too! let me study the text
[03:19] <Wes> #wes
[03:19] <tux> best of luck ;)
[03:19] <|lostbyte|> Loth77, Does'nt the desktop font setting change the fonts ?
[03:19] <zorglu1> Wes: inter ubuntu channel spammer ? :)
[03:20] <ubuntu> this channel is cool!!!! ..... will be back gentlemen
[03:20] <tux> ubuntu
[03:20] <tux> remember
[03:20] <Wes> sorry i dont understad
[03:20] <tux> any questions u have
[03:20] <SeanTater> Does this mean he wants more spanish-speaking ubuntu users?
[03:20] <tux> paste in www.google.de/linux
[03:20] <tux> a million infos ;)
[03:21] <ubuntu> geez ... sure will ... this is better than attending classes! THANKS A MILLION TUX!
[03:21] <|lostbyte|> tux, i prefer doing "linux <search term>" than doing to /linux/ .. as some results from non linux sites dont turn up..
[03:21] <|lostbyte|> doing/going*
[03:22] <tux> i prefer using "man" than anoying google main server ^^
[03:22] <ubuntu> see yah all later ... got a soccer match to catch ... USD 100 riding on Germany tonight he he he
[03:22] <|lostbyte|> ubuntu, Dont read howto's cause they are not distro spesific and will confuse you..
[03:23] <tux> ubuntu
[03:23] <tux> german?
[03:23] <ubuntu> nah malaysian
[03:23] <tux> aaha
[03:23] <|lostbyte|> Germany vs. Argentina tonight..
[03:24] <ubuntu> yup lost byte
[03:24] <cox377> Isit????
[03:24] <cox377> what time is the game GMT?
[03:24] <tux> Germany will win ;))
[03:24] <|lostbyte|> 6:00pm here in kuwait.. :P
[03:24] <|lostbyte|> Definitly..
[03:24] <ubuntu> local time in berlin is 16:00
[03:24] <tux> deutsche hier?
[03:25] <ubuntu> u guys have to figure out you times where u are :))
[03:25] <BKaj> no tux, english
[03:25] <tux> just asked if anyones german, but thanks for info BKaj  ;)
[03:25] <Tommy2k4> in kaffeine playlist viewer can i hide certain columns eg album
[03:26] <BKaj> you're welcome tux
[03:27] <|lostbyte|> get all your football info here => http://www.google.com/ig?hl=en
[03:27] <ubuntu> have to excuse myself guys .... hope to catch up with you later ... tks again for the info
[03:27] <|lostbyte|> and here => http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/specials/world_cup/2006/
[03:28] <|lostbyte|> AND GET THIS COOL EXTENSION FOR ALL FOOTBALL LOVERS => http://www.joga.com/jogacompanion.aspx
[03:29] <robotgeek> can we please keep the soccer talk in #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:30] <cox377> 15:00 local time
[03:30] <cox377> UK
[03:30] <xanax`> hello
[03:31] <xanax`> where could I find the "kubuntu 6.06 image" for vmware ?
[03:31] <zorglu1> same answer as in #kubuntu-fr :)
[03:31] <robotgeek> xanax`: no idea, but why dont you try out the live cd directly?
[03:31] <|lostbyte|> !search iso
[03:31] <ubotu> Found: burniso, burners, iso, xen, midi
[03:32] <xanax`> the live cd doesn't interest me
[03:32] <robotgeek> xanax`: okay, try lookiing on the vmware site then
[03:33] <|lostbyte|> robotgeek, what ? lolz
[03:33] <BKaj> why vm ware, just dual boot...with vmware you risk screwing up hardware drivers and lotsa other probs.
[03:34] <xanax`> really BKaj ?  I thought it was stable.
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, Who said..
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> it is stable..
[03:34] <Giniley> that risk is nearly the same on livecd
[03:34] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, Its the best virtual machine out there.
[03:34] <tux> im running Vmware-Server and im very happy with it.......
[03:34] <BKaj> i speak from experience , but go ahead , just a warning to be real careful with it
[03:36] <BKaj> well, you guys are lucky...i had reinstall all my hardware drivers after trying vmware , which I found slow and buggy BTW
[03:36] <cox377> does anyone know of a decent benchmarking application for kubuntu?
[03:37] <xanax`> ah .. cool I finally found the kubuntu 6.06 image for vmware on their website (I should have been blind before..)
[03:37] <BKaj> dual boot is the best way to go if ya wanna run Linux and windoze
[03:37] <|lostbyte|> xanax`, BKaj is some what right, if you looking for graphics and speed in linux, vmware is not the way, but if you want to simply experiance the fun.. go on. Drivers will be generic and memory will be hoged. but with a fast processor and large memeory it smooth.
[03:37] <tux> but i some cases you just need to have running linux + running windows same time
[03:37] <tux> and in that case VMware is a MUST
[03:38] <tux> i = in
[03:38] <BKaj> well that's what VM ware is ...it runs on top of windoze
[03:38] <xanax`> to be frank, I already know linux quite well.. but not vmware. I just wanted to test it :)
[03:38] <|lostbyte|> xanax`, it you have counted no of apps in windows that you like.. wine is prefect.
[03:38] <BKaj> hehe :)
[03:38] <BKaj> I'll drink to that :)
[03:38] <|lostbyte|> xanax`, Go ahead, love to hear from you when in act.
[03:39] <xanax`> have some of you tried XEN ?
[03:39] <xanax`> is it any good ?
[03:40] <|lostbyte|> xanax`, na ! didt try that..
[03:41] <BKaj> I've heard good things about Xen
[03:42] <BKaj> If you have a hi er end graphics card it's quite cool from all reports
[03:47] <OdyX> yop
[03:48] <pradeepto> !mp3
[03:48] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <Tommy2k4> any way to make kaffeine automatically play when i load it
[04:02] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, automatically play what..
[04:03] <Tommy2k4> random file from playlist
[04:04] <Tommy2k4> nvm --play does it :)
[04:07] <|lostbyte|> :)
[04:10] <Tommy2k4> using dcop how can i run multiple commands (specifically run the same command multiple times on 1 keypress)
[04:11] <djkoock> hi
[04:11] <djkoock>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16834
[04:12] <djkoock> what I must add for the Italian language?
[04:12] <djkoock>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16834
[04:12] <djkoock> help me
[04:16] <Alelasquez> #ubuntu-it
[04:16] <Alelasquez> djkoock
[04:17] <djkoock> Alelasquez  nobody advises to me
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> nvm i dont need it anymore
[04:17] <djkoock> -.-
[04:24] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, why ?
[04:25] <Tommy2k4> nvm i dont need it anymore
[04:36] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:37] <Melchiorre> :)
[04:37] <RadiantFire> :)
[04:37] <RadiantFire> :P
[04:38] <centyx> is it a bad idea to remove the kubuntu-desktop package?
[04:38] <|lostbyte|> yes !
[04:38] <RadiantFire> centyx: if you plan on upgrading to a new version kubuntu-desktop is required
[04:38] <Melchiorre> as long as that's the only package you remove, it shouldn't change anything...
[04:39] <RadiantFire> however, it won't break any thing
[04:39] <centyx> the kmplayer-konq-plugins just weren't working for me, so I removed them w/ apt-get, and it removed kubuntu-desktop as well
[04:39] <centyx> ah
[04:39] <RadiantFire> kmplayer wasn't wo rking?
[04:39] <RadiantFire> what was wrong with it?
[04:39] <|lostbyte|> centyx, no ! that does'nt happen..
[04:39] <centyx> RadiantFire: it wouldn't play anything, standalone or in konqueror
[04:39] <RadiantFire> maybe we can get them working :-)
[04:39] <RadiantFire> centyx: what were you trying to play?
[04:40] <RadiantFire> centyx: for things like quicktime you need libxine-extracodecs and maybe w32codecs
[04:40] <centyx> RadiantFire: I had both of those installed
[04:40] <RadiantFire> really
[04:40] <|lostbyte|> centyx, use moxplugger, works for me..
[04:40] <RadiantFire> did it give you errors when you put it in console mode?
[04:40] <|lostbyte|> mozplugger*
[04:40] <RadiantFire> ewww... don't use mozplugger...
[04:40] <centyx> well, now everything works w/ kaffeine
[04:40] <centyx> without any further configuration
[04:40] <|lostbyte|> RadiantFire, >:
[04:40] <centyx> so I'm happy w/ it
[04:40] <RadiantFire> i hate the crash on the destructor with kaffeine part
[04:41] <RadiantFire> its so annoying to have the window gone and then 5 seconds later... "konqueror crashed"
[04:41] <centyx> I guess I just need to reinstall kubuntu-desktop and put a hold on kmplayer-konq-plugins so it won't install
[04:41] <centyx> or not hold
[04:41] <|lostbyte|> huh ..
[04:41] <centyx> what would be the flag?
[04:41] <RadiantFire> centyx: you don't need kubuntu-desktop until you upgrade to anot her version
[04:41] <centyx> RadiantFire: k
[04:42] <RadiantFire> kubuntu-desktop stores stuff like replacements for obsoleted packages and stuff
[04:42] <RadiantFire> or something, I'm not entirely sure how it works...
[04:43] <centyx> RadiantFire: what are the states available for dpkg --set-selections
[04:43] <centyx> I want to tell ubuntu not to install kmplayer-konq-plugins
[04:43] <centyx> kbuntu rather
[04:44] <Frederick> folks anyone else having problems with nicotine?
[04:44] <centyx> deinstall, hold, install,
[04:45] <centyx> hrm
[04:45] <RadiantFire> centyx: i have no idea..
[04:45] <RadiantFire> i don't mess with dpkg
[04:47] <centyx> are maybe I need to put something in /etc/apt/preferences?
[04:47] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I install gcc3 aside gcc4 and compile something specifiing gcc3?
[04:52] <centyx> oh well
[04:52] <centyx> hold didn't work
[04:52] <centyx> "the following held selections will be changed"
[05:01] <Tommy2k4> how can i limit bandwidth to a certain app
[05:06] <Raito> My computer was originally a media center XP comp, so there are these buttons on the side for play, pause, stop etc. Is there any way I can map them to a key so I can use them with Kubuntu?
[05:06] <Tommy2k4> Raito, try http://dev-loki.blogspot.com/2006/04/mapping-unsupported-keys-with-xmodmap.html
[05:09] <Raito> Tommy2k4: How do you bind the keys to unused keysyms? That is what I was asking >_<
[05:10] <Tommy2k4> im pretty sure that page explains it?
[05:10] <Raito> It says just to do it, it kinda assumes that is common knowledge, like how would I bind a key with kubuntu?
[05:11] <Raito> Wait
[05:11] <Raito> nevermind
[05:11] <Raito> sorry
[05:11] <Tommy2k4> it explains it in detail
[05:12] <Nrvana_> !paste
[05:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:14] <sum> hi
[05:18] <Raito> Tommy2k4: Darn, I guess it is impossible, X windows doesn't even recognise them as keys
[05:19] <Tommy2k4> so you ran xev from console and nothing happened when you pressed the keys?
[05:20] <Raito> Tommy2k4: Correct, something only happens when I press a normal key but the media keys have no effect
[05:21] <Tommy2k4> no idea then
[05:22] <Raito> >_>
[05:26] <|lostbyte|> Raito, Nothing happed where ?
[05:26] <Raito> Jlostbyte|: In the terminal window whenI push the media keys, with a normal key it works fine
[05:26] <jjesse> whats the command to sync via ntp the time from the terminal?
[05:28] <|lostbyte|> Raito, USB keyboard.. ?
[05:28] <Raito> Jlostbyte|: Laptop keyboard
[05:28] <biffhero> does anyone else think that it is crazy that tar needs the j or z command to figure out that a file is a .gz or a .bz file?  I thought that's what magic numbers were for.
[05:30] <|lostbyte|> Magic numbers ?
[05:31] <biffhero> the first few bytes of a file tells the OS or apps what kind of a file it is.
[05:31] <desarrollo03> #ubuntu-es
[05:32] <biffhero> man 5 magic
[05:32] <biffhero> look in /usr/share/file/magic
[05:32] <sotired> hello all
[05:33] <sotired> how is everyone?
[05:34] <sotired> im trying to install "multimux" to help me with my dvd conversion/burning, but im afraid i dont know what im doing
[05:34] <jjesse> good how are you?
[05:35] <sotired> been better...
[05:35] <sotired> there are no installation instructions in the readme and im at a loss :(
[05:36] <sotired> i could use a fish, but i would be better served to learn how to fish
[05:36] <sotired> if you know waht i mean
[05:36] <scotty> Hey, I have a question if anyone has time ... ?
[05:37] <arso> omg, the mounting is still getting screwed
[05:37] <arso> "sudo mount -a" right
[05:37] <scotty> Ok, I recently got my Kubuntu discs, and I want to install it on my laptop. The only problem is, when I boot in live CD (I haven't installed Kubuntu yet) my wireless card won't work. Now I know you need a driver, but I have no idea how to get the driver I need while in Kubuntu if I can't access the internet ... what do I do?
[05:38] <scotty> Will it work once I install Kubuntu, or what?
[05:38] <sotired> im no expert...but with lt's i usually have to use ndiswrapper
[05:38] <scotty> ok, so how do I get that?
[05:38] <sotired> but this is coming from the guy who cant install anything without adept :)
[05:38] <arso> any pros here?
[05:38] <scotty> Ok, I can use adept to install ndiswrapper?
[05:39] <osh_> scotty: put ndiswrapper and your driver on an usb-stick and use that?
[05:39] <sotired> i really dont know
[05:39] <arso> i need to create a directory to mount my hd on
[05:39] <arso> its not fuking working
[05:39] <sotired> did you make the dir in /mnt/ ?
[05:39] <osh_> arso: I can help
[05:39] <scotty> osh_ ... that's actually a good idea
[05:39] <arso> osh_:  hello :)
[05:40] <osh_> scotty: good to know that 6+ years as a unix/linux admin has paid off... ;-)
[05:40] <arso> osh_:  ya, how do i create that
[05:40] <sotired> so can someone help me to install multimux?
[05:40] <osh_> arso: hi.
[05:40] <osh_> arso: what is it that you want to do?
[05:40] <arso> osh_:  i recently formatted drives and i need to mount them
[05:41] <osh_> arso: regular IDE disks?
[05:41] <arso> yes
[05:41] <osh_> arso: and they are connected? what does dmesg say?
[05:41] <sotired> if i dl a program, and it has a makefile...what do i do w/that/
[05:42] <osh_> sotired: ./configure; make; make install
[05:42] <arso> osh_:  yes theyre connected, can u tell me how to sign in as root, coz if i right click and say mount, its says must be in root
[05:42] <sotired> thanks osh...ill try it
[05:42] <osh_> arso: in kubuntu root is disabled. you "must" use sudo. what's the name of your disks? /dev/hdb /dev/hdd?
[05:43] <arso> osh_:  hdb5
[05:43] <sotired> ./configure no such file or directory :(
[05:44] <osh_> arso: try this. first "sudo -v" then "sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk; sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/mydisk"
[05:44] <osh_> arso: what does it say?
[05:44] <osh_> sotired: are you in the directory where you unpacked the tar.gz file?
[05:45] <BKaj> arso, you have 5 partitions ...does that include windows ?
[05:45] <arso> yes
[05:45] <arso> more then 5 i thinkk
[05:45] <sotired> yes
[05:45] <arso> osh_:  it  didnt say anything
[05:45] <arso> but it worked
[05:45] <arso> i can access the partition
[05:45] <osh_> arso: ok, great. :-)
[05:45] <arso> osh_:  can u please explain those 2 commands for later use?
[05:46] <osh_> sotired: what's the program you're trying to install?
[05:46] <osh_> arso: which ones?
[05:46] <sotired> multimux
[05:46] <arso> osh_:  osh_> arso: try this. first "sudo -v" then "sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk; sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/mydisk"
[05:46] <sotired> its a dependancy for any2dvd
[05:47] <sotired> for burning my own legally purchased backups of course....
[05:47] <osh_> arso: sudo is to allow you do do things as root. mkdir to create dir and mount to mount the disk.
[05:47] <osh_> sotired: naturally...
[05:49] <osh_> sotired: just type make
[05:50] <osh_> in that directory, no configure nessecary.
[05:50] <sotired> bash: ./make: No such file or directory
[05:50] <kronoz> argh i can never get the nvidia driver to work in kubuntu, i've tried everything a million times
[05:50] <sotired> smae thing without the ./
[05:50] <arso> osh_:  so when iam typign the same command for other partitions, which parts should i replace please? "osh_> arso: try this. first "sudo -v" then "sudo mkdir /mnt/mydisk; sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/mydisk""
[05:51] <osh_> arso: the /mnt/mydisk and the /dev/hdb5 parts.
[05:51] <osh_> sotired: type "which make"
[05:51] <osh_> sotired: and then type "gcc -v"
[05:52] <sotired> ok...does that mean im done? :)
[05:52] <osh_> sotired: no, now we have to find out if you have the tools to build multimux.
[05:52] <sotired> ok
[05:52] <sotired> i appreciate the help by the way
[05:53] <osh_> sotired: what's the output?
[05:53] <osh_> sotired: no problem
[05:53] <sotired> command not found
[05:53] <sotired> so ill grab gcc from adept?
[05:53] <arso> osh_:  for the /mnt/mydisk, wat should i replace it into
[05:54] <kronoz> apt-get install build-essentials
[05:54] <sotired> kronoz: that for me?
[05:54] <osh_> sotired: yes, do that. or type "sudo aptitude install gcc make", or build-essentials as kronoz suggested.
[05:55] <osh_> arso: that's just the name where you want your disk mounted so call it something that makes sense to you.
[05:55] <arso> osh_:  i see, ok thank u
[05:55] <osh_> arso: no problem
[05:55] <metalero9> miren ahi
[05:55] <arso> u helped a lot
[05:55] <osh_> arso: glad to help. :-)
[05:55] <sotired> ok its doing ti magic
[05:56] <sotired> done
[05:56] <metalero9> http://www.hispamp3.com/noticias/noticia.php?noticia=20060630094730
[05:56] <osh_> now do the make think in the multix dir again.
[05:56] <metalero9> ahi
[05:56] <sotired> ok
[05:57] <osh_> sotired: now do the make think in the multix dir again.
[05:57] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any solution to the kdesktop crashing? when i rightclicks sometimes it crashes
[05:57] <sotired> that worked i think
[05:57] <osh_> sotired: good. now do a "sudo make install" to install it.
[05:58] <osh_> sotired: the "sudo" part is to allow you to install it on the system, it will fail otherwise.
[05:58] <sotired> thank you all so much
[05:58] <osh_> sotired: no problem, now I have to go change a nappie. wish me luck...
[05:58] <sotired> right sudo/... does that stand for Suoer USer Do?
[05:58] <sotired> good luck
[05:58] <osh_> sotired: yes.
[05:59] <orly> what's the equivalent of the command 'make' in kubuntu
[05:59] <sotired> im off to burn my legal back up of a dvd that i most definatley own
[05:59] <sotired> make
[05:59] <sotired> ?
[05:59] <orly> like compiling
[05:59] <orly> when you compile files
[05:59] <SkrotFFS> it's "make" there as well
[05:59] <orly> hmm...
[06:00] <SkrotFFS> Make sure you've got the "build-essential" packages installed
[06:00] <orly> i do >.>
[06:00] <SkrotFFS> package*
[06:00] <orly> w/e i think i found it out
[06:02] <arso> osh_:  when i try to mount a partition that i mounted before
[06:02] <arso> it says file already exists
[06:02] <arso> osh_:  so how do i load it
[06:02] <arso> osh_:  mount*
[06:05] <_zblach> back again. how can one configure katapault in dapper?
[06:06] <arso> osh_: ? u there
[06:07] <arso> osh_:  when i restart, they get unmounted
[06:07] <arso> osh_:  how do i mount please, without creating a directory for it, if it already has one
[06:08] <Hawkwind> arso: mount /mnt/cdrom for example
[06:08] <omeow> What is it that you want to mount?
[06:09] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[06:09] <arso> Hawkwind:  i see so i need to rememebr the directory i saved the mounting to/.?
[06:10] <Hawkwind> arso: What is it you are trying/wanting to mount exactly ?
[06:10] <arso> partition
[06:10] <Hawkwind> arso: Partitions should get mounted on boot
[06:10] <omeow> Well, first you would create a directory for it. (usually in /mnt/)
[06:10] <Hawkwind> arso: Is it a partition that is listed in your /etc/fstab  ?
[06:11] <omeow> After you've done that, you open /etc/fstab as root and add a line there for the partition in question.
[06:11] <omeow> This page should explains things; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#Windows
[06:11] <Goofer> Hey Can someone help me ?? I have problem with playing music in Kubuntu 6.06 ??
[06:12] <_zblach> Goofer: laptop and the 686 kernel?
[06:12] <sdlnxgk> anyone have problems with the automount with the cdrom???? worked fine last night, but woke up to watch a move and will not mount cdrom!!!
[06:12] <Goofer> no
[06:12] <Hawkwind> Goofer: Have you looked at the restricted formats page ?
[06:12] <Goofer> pc with c-media chipset
[06:12] <arso> sudo mkdir /mnt/hdd6: sudo mount /dev/hdd6 mnt/hdd6
[06:12] <arso> mkdir: cannot create directory `sudo': File exists
[06:12] <arso> mkdir: cannot create directory `mount': File exists
[06:12] <arso> mkdir: cannot create directory `/dev/hdd6': File exists
[06:12] <arso> mkdir: cannot create directory `mnt/hdd6': No such file or directory
[06:12] <Hawkwind> arso: Use pastebin for that please
[06:12] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[06:12] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:12] <Goofer> Hmmm
[06:12] <_zblach> katapault configuration: works fine in breezy, whereis in dapper?
[06:12] <arso> Hawkwind:  k sorry
[06:12] <Goofer> the problem is :
[06:13] <Goofer> tha Amarok and Kaffeine can't play mp3 :] 
[06:13] <_zblach> restricted formats
[06:13] <Goofer> that*
[06:13] <Goofer> Yeah
[06:13] <Goofer> but i'm from Europe :] 
[06:13] <Hawkwind> arso: sudo mount /dev/hdd6 /mnt/some-mount-point
[06:13] <Goofer> so i don't have restrictions :)
[06:13] <Hawkwind> arso: Replace some-mount-point with a directory you have created
[06:13] <_zblach> Goofer: regardless of your location, you have to get that stuff yourself
[06:13] <Goofer> so
[06:13] <Goofer> how do I can get it ?? :>
[06:13] <arso> Hawkwind:  and if i cant remember the directory ??
[06:13] <_zblach> so, open up adept and look for mp3
[06:13] <Hawkwind> arso: Make one
[06:14] <Hawkwind> !restricted
[06:14] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <Goofer> ok
[06:14] <sdlnxgk> anyone having CDROM mounting issues???
[06:14] <Goofer> i've installed gstreamer libraries... but how do i can use it in kaffeine or Amarok ?? :>
[06:14] <Hawkwind> arso: Or look in the /mnt directory and see what directories are listed there
[06:14] <arso> Hawkwind:  how can i LOOk please?
[06:14] <Hawkwind> arso: ls -la /mnt
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> !mount
[06:15] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> !cdrom
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about cdrom
[06:15] <_zblach> !katapault
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about katapault
[06:15] <sdlnxgk> !removable media
[06:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about removable media
[06:15] <Goofer> I've installed gstreamer library with plugins... But how I can use it in Kaffeine ??
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Read the restricted formats page
[06:16] <Hawkwind> All of this is explained there
[06:16] <Goofer> can you send me a link ??
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Again ?
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Look in your buffer
[06:16] <sdlnxgk> Goofer really is as easy as reading that page ;)
[06:16] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[06:16] <Goofer> ok
[06:16] <Hawkwind> It's about 35 lines back
[06:16] <Goofer> sorry :)
[06:16] <Hawkwind> !restricted
[06:16] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:16] <Hawkwind> Read that!
[06:17] <sdlnxgk> Hawkwind know anything about cdrom mounting problems???
[06:17] <Hawkwind> sdlnxgk: Nope.  Mine mounts fine here.  What's the exact problem ?
[06:18] <sdlnxgk> when I put in an media disc would get pop up windows asking what to do next don't get that anymore
[06:18] <sdlnxgk> plus I added an icon on the desktop to manually mount it and still will not mount any type of media :(
[06:19] <Hawkwind> sdlnxgk: You verified hal is running as that's what controls the automounting stuff IIRC
[06:19] <Hawkwind> Be right back, gotta restart X
[06:20] <sdlnxgk> Hawkwind it was working just fine 8 hours ago before going to work and some how it just shut off but i'll check and see if it's still running
[06:20] <Howitzer> How do i make it so that in KDE, i have to click twice to activate an item? (start an app on the desktop, opening a folder in konqueror, ...)
[06:21] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[06:21] <VieLGus-KuTaS> i know , that one click is annoying
[06:21] <dr_willis> Howitzer,  its in the settings somewhere. :)
[06:21] <dr_willis> under mouse perhaps? i forget.
[06:22] <dr_willis> ive gotten used to the 1 click.
[06:22] <Howitzer> oh
[06:22] <kubuntu-noob> hi everyone
[06:22] <Howitzer> well, i could adapt myself, but i'd like to adapt my environment to me for the moment :)
[06:22] <Howitzer> hi kubuntu-noob
[06:22] <kubuntu-noob> i'm new to kubuntu
[06:23] <VieLGus-KuTaS> hi
[06:23] <VieLGus-KuTaS> matoo
[06:23] <dr_willis> Mollo!
[06:23] <dr_willis>  :)
[06:23] <kubuntu-noob> i'm trying it out before deciding to move over from ubuntu
[06:23] <Howitzer> don't call yourself a noob, it isn't good for your self-confidence!
[06:23] <kubuntu-noob> i've been having some problems though
[06:23] <VieLGus-KuTaS> yeah , kubuntu rox
[06:23] <VieLGus-KuTaS> what problem
[06:23] <kubuntu-noob> like how do you get konqueror to use 128 bit ssl that is required by banks?
[06:24] <sdlnxgk> yes double clickis in system settings under mouse
[06:24] <SeanTater> I have somewhere around 15 screensavers.. I;m used to ~100, but I don;t know where I got them -- where might I net extra screensavers for KDE?
[06:24] <SeanTater> kscreensaver is already installed
[06:24] <kubuntu-noob> and also kmail is able to sign my e-mail but refuses to decrypt it even though i have imported all my keyrings
[06:25] <Howitzer> ty sdlnxgk
[06:25] <sdlnxgk> hey noob konqueror should be 128bit all ready works great with my bank
[06:26] <sdlnxgk> Howitzer yvw
[06:26] <Howitzer> maybe your bank has an IE only?
[06:26] <kubuntu-noob> that's what i thought
[06:26] <sdlnxgk> try Opera and Mozilla and see what happens
[06:26] <kubuntu-noob> each time i try to access my account though i keep gettinga message to download netscape or ie coz it can't use 128 ssl
[06:26] <kubuntu-noob> work fine in firefox
[06:27] <VieLGus-KuTaS> what problem
[06:27] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[06:27] <sdlnxgk> yup sounds like an IE problem
[06:27] <sdlnxgk> what bank you using??
[06:27] <kubuntu-noob> but i'd rather find a way to use konqueror as it fits in a lot better with kubuntu
[06:27] <kubuntu-noob> www.lafayettesavingsbank.com
[06:27] <gupta> kubuntu-noob: Fits in??
[06:27] <kubuntu-noob> i also tried trying to set the user agent to ie but not luck
[06:27] <kubuntu-noob> heh i meant integrated
[06:28] <gupta> kubuntu-noob: did you remove cookies after chanign id?
[06:28] <sdlnxgk> loads up just fine for me
[06:28] <kubuntu-noob> nope
[06:28] <gupta> try that
[06:28] <kubuntu-noob> yeah it'll load fine but it will not let me login to my bank account
[06:28] <sdlnxgk> let me try to access something with encryption
[06:28] <VieLGus-KuTaS> kubuntu-noob: well  , go to crypto settings , there are some sll methods that are not being used , maybe you need to find out which method the bank uses and enable it
[06:28] <kubuntu-noob> let me check
[06:29] <Howitzer> kubuntu-noob: try changing the user agent to mozilla
[06:29] <Howitzer> who knows it's just a check instead of a requirement
[06:29] <kubuntu-noob> ok chaning it to mozilla
[06:30] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:31] <kubuntu-noob> be right back
[06:32] <idimmu> how do i change my display resolution?
[06:32] <idimmu> please!
[06:32] <gupta> alt+f2 > kcontrol , somewhere there
[06:33] <idimmu> cheers
[06:33] <Howitzer> kcontrol > display
[06:33] <sdlnxgk> noob check this out might help ya http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kcontrol/crypto/index.html
[06:33] <idimmu> ive used gnome for what feels like 7 years
[06:33] <BKaj> idimmu: system settings/hardware/display/admin mode/monitor
[06:34] <idimmu> this is all new :o
[06:34] <Howitzer> heh
[06:34] <idimmu> thanks
[06:34] <Howitzer> had the same idimmu
[06:34] <Howitzer> i'm kind of loving KDE atm
[06:34] <Howitzer> feels so centralised and customisable
[06:35] <idimmu> well it looks pretty :)
[06:35] <Howitzer> it takes longer to set up, but keeps me satisfied for longer
[06:35] <Tommy2k4> my monitor used to give frequency out of range errors for no reason (not when booting up, it happened randomly after id been booted up for ages) when i was using 24bit / 1280x1024
[06:35] <Tommy2k4> i switched to 16bit / 1024x768 and it fixed it
[06:35] <BKaj> idimmu:  then  find your monitor in the list , apply , then go to the resolution setting and change it
[06:36] <Tommy2k4> do you think if i use 1280/1024 but keep 16bit it wont crash still
[06:36] <idimmu> yep all done, thanks very much BKaj
[06:36] <BKaj> COOL
[06:40] <ubuntu> hola
[06:40] <arso> hey guys, i found out i have to mount the partitions everytime i reboot
[06:40] <ubuntu> ke tal por estos parajes?
[06:40] <BKaj> Tommy2k4: prolly work but I hope you have good sized monitor and good vision :)
[06:40] <Tommy2k4> 15" monitor
[06:41] <BKaj> pretty small for that res
[06:41] <Tommy2k4> ive always used it
[06:41] <BKaj> then you have good eyes
[06:41] <sdlnxgk> arso what kind of drive you trying to mount???
[06:42] <sdlnxgk> you can change the 0 to a 1 and have it mount on start up ;)
[06:42] <BKaj> I'm old so I dont go higher than 1024x768 on a 17"
[06:42] <arso> sdlnxgk:  normal partitions ext3
[06:43] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrrrr CDROM will not mount even after restarting X I have to reboot the  entire system DAMMIT thought I was done with that when I left M$
[06:43] <francesco_> Help please!!!
[06:43] <francesco_> Si  verificato un errore durante il caricamento di http://www.google.it:
[06:43] <francesco_> Impossibile avviare il processo Impossibile creare un io-slave: File system in sola lettura.
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> arso just go to /etc and exit fstab for that device and change the 0 to a 1 like the master hard drive that boots up
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> !etc
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about etc
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> !/etc
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about /etc
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> hehehehe
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> :D
[06:44] <sdlnxgk> all good
[06:45] <sdlnxgk> brb have to reboot so I can watch a freakin movie what a drag :( gotta be a way to fix it without rebooting all the time
[06:45] <francesco_> konqueror not open any web page. Error: Impossible to create a io-slave: File system only read.
[06:46] <francesco_> Help! Please - - konqueror not open any web page. Error: Impossible to create a io-slave: File system only read.
[06:46] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[06:50] <karotte_> hi
[06:50] <gupta> Anybody successfully printing in draft?
[06:50] <VieLGus-KuTaS> hi
[06:50] <visik7> is there something in ubuntu like katapult yakuake and gestures ?
[06:51] <gupta> getures? Mouse gestures? strokeit?
[06:51] <visik7> yes mouse gestures
[06:51] <francesco_> How install Firefox using apt-get?
[06:51] <gupta> visik7: I am looking for decent mouse gesteru app for months now :(
[06:52] <VieLGus-KuTaS> sudo apt-get install firefox
[06:52] <VieLGus-KuTaS> ?
[06:52] <visik7> ok stuck with kubuntu I would give gnome a try but I can't live without this 3 apps
[06:52] <gupta> khotkeys works but horrible configuration.
[06:52] <gupta> visik7: I know mouse gestures are a must, I never touch the mouse when using linux
[06:53] <arso> hey guys
[06:53] <VieLGus-KuTaS> hi
[06:53] <arso> which version of wine should i download
[06:53] <visik7> I use it for 3 or 4 things
[06:53] <arso> since i am newbie
[06:53] <visik7> that make my life easyer
[06:53] <gupta> VieLGus-KuTaS:  aptitude search firefox
[06:53] <visik7> arso: apt-get install wine ?
[06:54] <Tommy2k4> BKaj, must be cos i wear glasses lol
[06:54] <francesco_> help for install firefox using apt-get install firefox
[06:54] <francesco_> W: Locking disabilitato per il file di lock in sola lettura /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:54] <francesco_> E: Impossibile scrivere in /var/cache/apt/
[06:54] <francesco_> E: La lista dei pacchetti o il file di status non possono essere letti o aperti.
[06:54] <arso> visik7:  in terminal?>
[06:54] <visik7> no
[06:54] <visik7> in kde obviously
[06:55] <gupta> Ok, what should be the printing configuration for draft printing. Currently it doesn't want to print in draft.
[06:58] <Hawkwind> francesco_: Did you do sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox ?
[07:00] <gupta> is there simple wordpad like app?
[07:00] <GBoS> kwrite
[07:01] <gupta> nothing complicated, I just need, bold, bullet support
[07:01] <Hawkwind> gupta: Any editor basically like gedit, kwrite, kate, jed, nedit, leafpad
[07:01] <gupta> none I know has a simple features, like choosing font colour
[07:01] <gupta> afaik
[07:02] <gupta> do correct me if I am wrong
[07:02] <GBoS> gupta: openoffice should come with kubuntu
[07:02] <gupta> simple app
[07:02] <GBoS> that's has a MSWord-equivilent
[07:09] <kronoz> openoffice does come with kubuntu
[07:09] <arso> !afaik
[07:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about afaik
[07:09] <arso> wtf is afaik, i hear it everywhere
[07:09] <gupta> as far as i know
[07:10] <gupta> kronoz: Yes , but I don't require openoffice, just a simple lil app like wordpad
[07:10] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file hold all the raid info?
[07:10] <Hawkwind> VieLGus-KuTaS: Ask a more detailed question and someone might answer you
[07:11] <VieLGus-KuTaS> all i need to knwo is where all the raid settings are stored
[07:18] <omeow> visik7: You might want to try freehand.
[07:18] <omeow> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=30108
[07:18] <visik7> freehand
[07:18] <visik7> for kde ?
[07:19] <omeow> Yeah.
[07:22] <TheHighChild> is there a way to make firefox use the KDE download manager?
[07:27] <omgwtflolbbq> when i type in command make... why does it output bash: make: command not found?
[07:28] <omgwtflolbbq> ...?
[07:28] <omeow> You probably need buildessentials.
[07:28] <omgwtflolbbq> where can i get that?
[07:29] <omgwtflolbbq> does adept have it
[07:31] <cwag> hello, im having some problems with port forwarding in kubuntu if anyones feeling helpfu
[07:34] <omeow> omgwtflolbbq: Yeah, it does.
[07:34] <Alelasquez> Penaltissssss
[07:34] <omgwtflolbbq> yeahi got it
[07:34] <omgwtflolbbq> thanks ><
[07:34] <omgwtflolbbq> cwag: modify them through your router?
[07:34] <BKaj> cwag , what kind of probs are you having ?
[07:34] <omeow> cwag: I have no idea, shouldn't your router usually do that?
[07:34] <omgwtflolbbq> rofl
[07:35] <cwag> well
[07:35] <cwag> basically
[07:35] <cwag> i started a torrent last night because it was pretty large...anyway Ktorrent says it sees 1400 peers and 181 seeds...its now stalled, it cant connect to any seeds and only 58 leeches...
[07:35] <cwag> So i did some checking and apparently the ports arent open
[07:35] <cwag> but
[07:35] <cwag> in my router, theyre open
[07:35] <omgwtflolbbq> ...are you sure?
[07:35] <cwag> yep
[07:35] <cwag> 100%
[07:35] <omgwtflolbbq> what kind of router do you have
[07:35] <cwag> westell gateway
[07:35] <cwag> im not 100% on the model number
[07:36] <omgwtflolbbq> er
[07:36] <cwag> but the services all show ports 10,000-60,000 as forwarded
[07:36] <omgwtflolbbq> ..........
[07:36] <omgwtflolbbq> bittorrent uses
[07:36] <BKaj> you have to open them in ktorrent in preferences, otherwise they'' redefault each time you logon
[07:36] <omgwtflolbbq> 6881-6999
[07:36] <cwag> i set ktorrent to use one between those ranges..
[07:36] <omgwtflolbbq> ><
[07:36] <cwag> well on my windows box I set utorrent up to use one between 10,000 and 60,000 and opened the ports
[07:36] <cwag> and
[07:37] <cwag> it works just fine
[07:37] <BKaj> go above 7000
[07:37] <BKaj> too many P2Ps use ports from 1024 to 6000
[07:38] <BKaj> you don't such a big hole in you torrent map
[07:39] <cwag> so, you think I should just set the port to 7000, and open that up also in my router?
[07:40] <BKaj> you don't need more ports then the number uploads anddownloads you have set
[07:40] <BKaj> 7000-7010 woild be plenty
[07:41] <Alelasquez> ALEMANIA WINS
[07:41] <BKaj> this business of seting dynamic ports from 10K to 60K  is faster but less secure
[07:42] <cwag> So whats this mean then, i just did all that and its still "stalled" and unable to connect to any seeds..
[07:42] <BKaj> faster at connecting to trackers but less secure otherwise
[07:42] <cwag> and according to a port checking website, the ports are still closed, when I explicitly opened them with my router.
[07:43] <cwag> is there some sort of firewall thats on in kubuntu?
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> tellme somebody pelease how can i do different languages for different users in kde?
[07:43] <MetaMorfoziS> so if a logins, his ui is deutsch and b logins his ui is hungarian?
[07:43] <BKaj> well there was an option during install , did you enable it ?
[07:44] <BKaj> BBIAB
[07:44] <astro_-> does anyone know why I get "
[07:44] <astro_-> whoops
[07:45] <astro_-> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166  why do I get that when running apt-get install?  Could it be related to the fact that I first installed Ubuntu and then switched to KDE with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> tellme somebody pelease how can i do different languages for different users in kde?
[07:47] <MetaMorfoziS> so if a logins, his ui is deutsch and b logins his ui is hungarian?
[07:53] <haakonn> setting up amarok on my computer ... and there's no sound. it just skips every track. i've set it up use xine, i've disabled arts, what else is there?
[07:54] <apokryphos> haakonn: mp3s, I guess? Please read the FAQ.
[07:55] <haakonn> good point
[07:55] <thoreauputic> haakonn: have you installed libxine-extracodecs ?
[07:55] <filipncs> I have a broken package in kubuntu dapper, anybody feel like helping me?  :(
[07:56] <haakonn> thoreauputic:  i have now :) thanks, solved it (come to think of it, i've had this problem before. if only i had some remembering capability)
[07:56] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:57] <haakonn> next step is to figure out how the heck i can mute the tinny internal laptop speakers while having my hifi plugged into the headphone jack
[07:58] <haakonn> + figure out why on this 1GB/core duo laptop, gui apps are so sloppy
[07:59] <omeow> Perhaps your driver isn't installed?
[07:59] <haakonn> for every new line on irc, i literally have to sit here and wait for konsole to repaint itself
[07:59] <haakonn> the nv driver is installed fine it seems
[07:59] <zorglu1> well you can say something is wrong then :)
[07:59] <omeow> konversation, you mean?
[07:59] <haakonn> no, this is irssi
[07:59] <haakonn> irssi. irssi is slow on an intel core duo
[08:00] <haakonn> or rather, konsole and every other gui app is
[08:00] <zorglu1> well i would be worried if 2 cpu cant handle a single irc client :)
[08:00] <omeow> Ah ok. Well, I believe sho mentioned earlier that there was a bug in nvidia drivers causing things to be redrawn with a slowdown.
[08:00] <haakonn> omeow:  interesting. did he mention any workaround?
[08:00] <zorglu1> haakonn: i see 2 possibilities: (i) issue with graphic driver (ii) some interrrupt heating the cpu alive
[08:01] <filipncs> Has anybody had problems installing the libglib2.0-dev package?
[08:01] <zorglu1> haakonn: what about thing which are not doing graphic ?
[08:01] <omeow> haakonn: I'll search my log.
[08:01] <zorglu1> haakonn: like pure network transfert, does this work ok ?
[08:01] <haakonn> zorglu1:  things are generally fast
[08:01] <haakonn> compile jobs etc, all fast
[08:01] <zorglu1> hmm ok so it is directly related to graphic
[08:02] <zorglu1> haakonn: have you tried another driver for X ?
[08:02] <haakonn> zorglu1:  i don't know of any other than nv that would work (except nvidia, but i don't want it)
[08:03] <zorglu1> haakonn: well try it, you dont need to keep it, just to see if it change
[08:03] <Nrvana> anyone know how to burn MP3 CD's? (not audio CD's, MP3 CD's)
[08:03] <haakonn> i also don't have direct rendering; glxgears gets something like 3fps :)
[08:03] <zorglu1> haakonn: you may try frame buffer too, for the same reaason
[08:04] <filipncs> Can anybody please what versions of libglib2.0-0 and libglib2.0-dev they have installed (if any).
[08:05] <filipncs> The dev package is broken on my machine...
[08:05] <bam_> anyone know where the mouse cursors are stored in kde?
[08:05] <omeow> haakonn: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=65857
[08:05] <[Nirvana] > flipncs: can you PM me?
[08:05] <omeow> Perhaps you could try disabling antialiasing?
[08:06] <filipncs> [Nirvana] : yes, thank you
[08:06] <haakonn> omeow:  thanks plenty, will check it out
[08:08] <[Nirvana] > filipncs: did you get the msg?
[08:09] <haakonn> man, turning off AA makes things ugly :) and just as slow
[08:10] <omeow> Yeah. :)
[08:10] <omeow> Hm, perhaps something is taking up all your CPU power?
[08:10] <haakonn> nothing that top shows at least. i tried http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=204100 but i didn't notice anything different
[08:11] <omeow> What about "glx-info|grep direct"?
[08:12] <haakonn> direct rendering: No / OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[08:12] <omeow> Which graphics card did you say you have?
[08:12] <omeow> nvidia one, right?
[08:13] <haakonn> NVIDIA GeForce Go 7300 TurboCache - 128 MB
[08:13] <haakonn> also the nv driver, not the nvidia one
[08:13] <ke> What's that package name for build-essentials
[08:13] <omeow> Doesn't the nvidia one work or don't you know how to install that one?
[08:13] <ke> Something..
[08:13] <omeow> ke: build-essential
[08:14] <haakonn> i don't want it :)
[08:14] <omeow> Why not?
[08:14] <omeow> It makes your graphics card work.
[08:14] <ke> Hmm
[08:14] <DaSkreech> HMm Can I query the amarok Database without opneing amarok?
[08:14] <omeow> You can with katapult I think.
[08:14] <ke> No internet connection on that box would explain why I can't find it :=
[08:14] <ke> :)
[08:15] <dj_baggio> hi
[08:15] <omeow> (alt+space + start typing the song you want)
[08:15] <omeow> But that's probably not what you want.
[08:15] <zorglu1> i think there are some dcop api for amarok to do that
[08:15] <zorglu1> #amarok will provide a definitive answer on this matter :)
[08:17] <sotired> ugg
[08:17] <DaSkreech> omeow: That only works with Amarok open
[08:17] <omeow> DaSkreech: ok, then I wouldn't know. And I probably named something that wasn't quite what you wanted. ;)
[08:17] <DaSkreech> omeow: Thanks though :-)
[08:18] <sotired> ok...after messing with any2dvd for an hour and another hour to convert...still doesnt work. Is there anything with a frontend i can use to convert my xvid's to dvd?
[08:18] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: what do you wanna do ?
[08:18] <DaSkreech> Query Album information and locations of files etc
[08:18] <sotired> it cant be this complicated...there has to be something simple for this task
[08:20] <sotired> im not worried about menus or chapters, i just need it to play the vid on a standalone player...i did this for years in m$..but im trying to stay away from non-free
[08:20] <DaSkreech> Wow I broke kmplayer
[08:20] <Remo_A> hi all, freshly installed kubuntu. Now I heard, that there is a script, that goes through all the important non free/closed source programs, that are commonly installed on a desktop, like java or macromedia flash. Is this true? And if, is it safe? and if, what's it called? :)
[08:21] <zorglu1> true and safe, likely, the name i dunno :)
[08:22] <DaSkreech> !easyubuntu
[08:22] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[08:28] <driz> !helo
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about helo
[08:28] <driz> !hello
[08:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[08:29] <KinGetana> :P
[08:31] <driz> hello there
[08:32] <dj_baggio> !saa7134
[08:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about saa7134
[08:32] <dj_baggio> no good :)
[08:33] <gatekeeper> zorglu1: remember us talking about my clock yesterday?
[08:33] <zorglu1> gatekeeper: vaguely, why
[08:34] <gatekeeper> zorglu1: I found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-150472.html windows up to it's tricks surprise surprise :-)
[08:35] <gatekeeper> zorglu1: M$ can't even get this right
[08:38] <omgwtflolbbq> does anyone know hwo to configure.... sound
[08:38] <omgwtflolbbq> >.>
[08:38] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: is your sound card detected?  ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[08:39] <Tommy2k4> gatekeeper, windows has never failed to adjust for dst for me
[08:39] <omgwtflolbbq> lemme check
[08:40] <omgwtflolbbq> yeah it is
[08:41] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: what happens is linux leaves your computer alone and just displays the correct, windows actually alters the pc clock time so if you dual boot in any way or form you get an annoying problem :-(
[08:41] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: well, I need the output
[08:41] <gatekeeper> displays the correct time even - whooops
[08:42] <Tommy2k4> ah
[08:42] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: also, pastebin the output from ``cat /etc/asoundconf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[08:42] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: sorry, that should be:
[08:42] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: also, pastebin the output from ``cat /etc/asoundconf.conf ~/.asoundrc* && amixer''
[08:42] <omgwtflolbbq> oh ><
[08:42] <crimsun> argh
[08:42] <crimsun> can't type today. /etc/asound.conf
[08:42] <omgwtflolbbq> k
[08:42] <zorglu1> gatekeeper: :)
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> 0 [AudioPCI       ] : ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq>                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xcc00, irq 11
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> 1 [Live           ] : EMU10K1 - SBLive! Platinum [CT4760P] 
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq>                      SBLive! Platinum [CT4760P]  (rev.8, serial:0x80401102) at 0xd000, irq 10
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> that's cards
[08:43] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: well, pastebin next time, not here
[08:43] <crimsun> http://pastebin.ca
[08:43] <omeow> Adept would be so much better if it didn't automaticly start filtering as you type.
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> k
[08:43] <omeow> Is there any way to make it stop doing that?
[08:43] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: and which card do you want to use by default?
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> audiopic
[08:43] <omgwtflolbbq> pci*
[08:44] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: not the live? Ok.
[08:46] <gatekeeper> omeow: yes use synaptic :-)
[08:47] <omeow> Isn't synaptic for gnome?
[08:48] <bam_> yea, but its better...
[08:48] <apokryphos> adept is just fine to use
[08:48] <gatekeeper> omeow: nope I use it, and I am using kubuntu, most apps can be used regardless of window manager, this is linux :-)
[08:48] <sotired> hey
[08:48] <sotired> anyone here an avid dvd burner?
[08:49] <sotired> i dont mean the pice of hardware....i mean "one who burns dvd's"
[08:49] <sotired> :-p
[08:49] <bam_> not an avid dvd burner but certainly a few
[08:49] <omeow> apokryphos: Don't you think it's slow?
[08:50] <gatekeeper> sotired: do a bit of that from time to time only used k3b
[08:50] <apokryphos> not really
[08:50] <omeow> When you're looking for packages, that is.
[08:50] <apokryphos> but it's definitely got a perfomance boost in svn
[08:50] <sotired> i know how to burn the little bastards, but im having a heck of a time converting my xvids to dvd format
[08:50] <omeow> On startup it starts filtering immediately, which makes videos and other stuff lag.
[08:50] <omeow> (only the video, not the sound of videos, the video output snaps to sync when it's finished filtering)
[08:51] <sotired> i tired using any2dvd...but that was a 2hour waste of my time
[08:51] <sotired> anything you know of to help me with this task that doesnt require me to type a 5 paragtaph string of commands?
[08:51] <sotired> :)
[08:52] <sotired> i dont mind command line at all...when it works
[08:53] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: do you have the output pastebinned yet?
[08:53] <dragonkh> hello
[08:53] <sotired> i guess not....
[08:53] <dragonkh> anyone know how to let others see whats going on in your shell window ?
[08:53] <gatekeeper> sotired: someone is suggesting acid rip on the ubuntu forums
[08:53] <dragonkh> theres a command but I forgot it
[08:53] <dragonkh> type or screen or something
[08:54] <sotired> im not trying to rip from a dvd.....
[08:54] <sotired> but il take a look
[08:54] <iNiku> dragonkh: you mean you want to log whatever happens in your shell?
[08:54] <iNiku> script would do that
[08:54] <bam_> anyone got superkaramba t work from the repo's
[08:55] <dragonkh> iNiku: I want another user to see what I type
[08:55] <iNiku> dragonkh: in real time?
[08:55] <dragonkh> iNiku: yes
[08:55] <dragonkh> iNiku: theres a command for it - I forgotten it
[08:55] <iNiku> dragonkh: then you might want to use screen, you can use it for that
[08:55] <sotired> gatekeeper: according to adept it encodes using mencoder and mplayer. i tried to do that manually but every time i run mencoder i get "error parsong command line"
[08:56] <dragonkh> iNiku: got a link to a how to /
[08:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> do i need a generic image of a kernel if im using a cpu specific version?
[08:56] <iNiku> dragonkh: no... but -x is the key to sharing a screen
[08:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command to display cpu info?
[08:58] <dragonkh> thanks :)
[08:58] <iNiku> dragonkh: basically, if both persons can log in as the same user... one person starts up screen by typing 'screen', the other connects to it by typing 'screen -x'
[08:58] <gatekeeper> sotired: seen discussions on these sorts of topics but unfortunately can't remeber where so I am not a lot of use to you sorry :-(
[08:59] <sotired> gatekeeper: thanks anyway....ill give acid rip a try and see if that helps me
[08:59] <gatekeeper> sotired: just something I googled so might be talking out of my arse :-)
[09:02] <drcat> hi!
[09:02] <DaSkreech> Hello
[09:02] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running."
[09:02] <haakonn> i also have a problem with firefox html textareas: when i move the cursor over some text, traces of the cursor symbol remains, making the text look all garbled. anyone else seeing this?
[09:02] <drcat> :(
[09:03] <sbriscoe> anybody have problems with flash in firefox? i do a successfull install but it still doesnt work
[09:03] <sbriscoe> i guess it's not that successfull
[09:03] <arso> it works fine with me
[09:03] <arso> re-do it
[09:03] <sbriscoe> i've done it a few times
[09:04] <sbriscoe> no error messages in the install :(
[09:04] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:05] <arso> sbriscoe:  tahts weird
[09:05] <arso> soryr
[09:05] <drcat> I looked for kdeprintd, but can'f find a file with that name
[09:05] <sbriscoe> okay so flash works, but shockwave isn't
[09:05] <arso> DaSkreech:  hey
[09:05] <omgwtflolbbq> oh
[09:05] <omgwtflolbbq> ><
[09:05] <DaSkreech> arso: Dood!!
[09:05] <omgwtflolbbq> lewlz
[09:06] <arso> DaSkreech:  i set up the resolution and the partitions, on my last partition now, then i am SET ! :D
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> k i have sound but like any files i ply thhrough kaffeine or amarok dont work
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> help?
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> lawlz
[09:06] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: what types of files, mp3s?
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> yarly
[09:06] <arso> DaSkreech:  just one problem tho, i am forced to mount all of them every time i reboot, manually,using commands,wtf?
[09:06] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> are those in adept
[09:06] <vikke> excuse me but what packages do i need to compile source? i thought it was build-essentials but that appears to be broken :S
[09:06] <omgwtflolbbq> i go chekc package manger
[09:06] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: you need universe and multiverse enabled, but yes
[09:07] <vikke> !build
[09:07] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[09:07] <omgwtflolbbq> crimsun: k
[09:07] <Tm_M> hi kids
[09:07] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:07] <DaSkreech> arso: You have them set up in /etc/fstab?
[09:07] <drcat> I am looking for kdeprintd, but can't find a file with that name
[09:08] <sotired> sadly acid rip cannot encode from file
[09:08] <sotired> this is damn annoying
[09:08] <sbriscoe> is shockwave suppose to work in kubuntu?
[09:08] <sotired> since when is shockwave supposed to work on anything?
[09:08] <crimsun> sbriscoe: sw director? No.
[09:08] <sotired> sorry :-p
[09:08] <sbriscoe> not director, macromedia shockwave player
[09:09] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is it ok to do purging instead of removing applications that i dont need???
[09:09] <arso> DaSkreech:  how can i check if theyre 'set up in etc/fsstab"
[09:09] <DaSkreech> arso: How are you mounting them?
[09:09] <gatekeeper> sotired: have a read: http://software.newsforge.com/software/06/06/20/1855200.shtml?tid=130 might be interesting
[09:09] <sbriscoe> when i go to the shockwave player download center, i get a message saying they are unable to locate a web player that matches my platform and browser
[09:09] <arso> "sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5"
[09:10] <arso> DaSkreech:  "sudo mount /dev/hdb5 /mnt/hdb5"
[09:10] <sotired> gatekeeper: thankyou
[09:10] <crimsun> !restricted
[09:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:10] <crimsun> ^^ read that, omgwtflolbbq
[09:10] <omgwtflolbbq> k
[09:10] <omgwtflolbbq> thanks
[09:10] <sotired> gatekeeper: i was hoping that would be about my dvd issue
[09:10] <sotired> heheh
[09:10] <gatekeeper> sotired: your welcome don't know if it will solve your problem might be another way to 'skin the cat' :-)
[09:10] <iNiku> bbq? that's a less commonly known internet abbreviation :)
[09:11] <DaSkreech> arso: Ok Hmm Want to learn the true Linux way or the easy way?
[09:11] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:11] <gatekeeper> sotired: sorry it was to do with your flash issue :-)
[09:11] <drcat> :(
[09:11] <arso> DaSkreech:   any way that u think i(linux newb) can do on my own and something permanent
[09:11] <drcat> I am looking for kdeprintd, but can't find a file with that name
[09:11] <sotired> i have no flash issue, but thanks for the help anyway :)
[09:12] <arso> DaSkreech:  and not too time consuming ;)
[09:12] <dragonkh> iNiku: can it work with separate users?
[09:12] <Raito> I have a problem with kaffeine: It never loads up, when I start it up the box pops up and it takes a while to finish loading, but when it does load there is no buttons, no bar, just white/lightblue space. Also the bouncing kaffeine logo acts as an eraser to everything that kaffeine does load. What happened?
[09:12] <DaSkreech> arso: Well lets do the reael linux way first then :)
[09:12] <arso> DaSkreech:  sure ;)
[09:12] <omgwtflolbbq> crimsun: well it says get libxine-extracodecs... but i dont have it in packet manager T_T
[09:12] <gatekeeper> sotired: I thought it wouldn't install properly for your web browser?
[09:13] <sotired> wasnt me...
[09:13] <DaSkreech> arso: ok you should have a /etc/fstab file Can you pastebin it?
[09:13] <sotired> mines working just dandy....but i have a hatred for flash
[09:13] <arso> DaSkreech:  how do i open it please?
[09:13] <gatekeeper> sotired: ooops sorry
[09:13] <iNiku> dragonkh: it can, but you'll have to tweak with permissions and stuff... I know I've done it but can't remember how exactly. um, what are you trying to do?
[09:13] <sotired> no prob :)
[09:14] <iNiku> would it be enough to just log your session and have the other user follow the log in real time?
[09:14] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: then enable universe and multiverse
[09:14] <omgwtflolbbq> how ><
[09:14] <omgwtflolbbq> lol
[09:14] <dragonkh> iNiku: I want to ssh to a machine and show another remote user how to do something
[09:14] <sotired> when i do find an efficient way to do this i am going to write a detailed howto for others in my situation...
[09:15] <omgwtflolbbq> crimsun: are those the gstreamer ones?
[09:15] <iNiku> dragonkh: I've used script for documenting stuff, it writes a log of your session. the other user could do a tail -f on that log to see what you're doing
[09:15] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:15] <drcat> I am looking for kdeprintd, but can't find a file with that name
[09:15] <drcat> :(
[09:15] <Raito> I have a problem with kaffeine: It never loads up, when I start it up the box pops up and it takes a while to finish loading, but when it does load there is no buttons, no bar, just white/lightblue space. Also the bouncing kaffeine logo acts as an eraser to everything that kaffeine does load. What happened?
[09:15] <gatekeeper> sotired: will come in very handy, excellent idea!!!
[09:15] <arso> DaSkreech:  sorry i dont know all these basics, how do i open those files and wats pasttebin
[09:16] <sotired> it may be years at this rate :)
[09:16] <iNiku> dragonkh: screen would allow you to actually share a session with him, with both users typing and seeing stuff in real time, but that may not be what you need
[09:16] <DaSkreech> arso: Want to use a GUI app or something from the command line?
[09:16] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > arso
[09:16] <gatekeeper> sotired: have faith :-)
[09:16] <sotired> I'll try
[09:16] <iNiku> cool, I didn't know ubotu did > :)
[09:17] <iNiku> is that a new feature?
[09:17] <arso> DaSkreech:  gui would be easier right?
[09:17] <DaSkreech> I guess :)
[09:17] <gatekeeper> sotired: have you tried the news groups like comp.os.linux.misc?
[09:17] <arnau> when a try to write a word with an accent, in some programs (like openoffice or Kopete), the accent apperars before the letter like this `a. Can anyone know why?
[09:17] <sotired> not yet, i have found some methods, but so far none of them have worked
[09:18] <arso> DaSkreech:  well, then gui it is
[09:18] <sotired> i think mencoder is thay way to go...if the fecking thing would stop giving me errors
[09:18] <DaSkreech> Alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:18] <gatekeeper> sotired: bit frustrating when that happens
[09:19] <sotired> yes...i think im going to try and troubleshoot mencoder before looking for another method...
[09:19] <arso> DaSkreech:  ok i am there
[09:19] <iNiku> sotired: what are you trying to do?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> arso: Got the pastebin message?
[09:19] <sotired> iniku: im tring to convert xvid's to dvd
[09:19] <gatekeeper> I could get our software to link up in VC7 debug/release or VC6 debug but not VC6 release drove me nuts
[09:19] <sotired> sounds simple right..... :)
[09:20] <arso> DaSkreech:  yes, i opened the link for pasting
[09:20] <iNiku> sotired: you mean to a standard video dvd?
[09:20] <sotired> yep
[09:20] <sotired> for a standalone
[09:20] <iNiku> I believe you'll need a dvd authoring tool for that
[09:20] <DaSkreech> ok in Kate Press Ctrl+A to select all the text then Ctrl+C to copy the text
[09:20] <iNiku> mencoder should be able to re-encode the video but that will not be enough
[09:20] <sotired> i know how to burn it...but mencoder wont work
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Then put hte cursuor in the place for text in teh site and Ctrl+V to paste
[09:20] <iNiku> sotired: won't work how?
[09:20] <DaSkreech> Put a name and then presssend
[09:21] <iNiku> sotired: what's your command line and how does it fail?
[09:21] <sotired> "error parsing command line"
[09:21] <arso> DaSkreech:  ok
[09:21] <sotired> Exiting... (error parsing cmdline)
[09:21] <iNiku> mencoder has way too many arguments and the syntax for some of them is less than obvious :)
[09:21] <sotired> with any argument
[09:21] <iNiku> sotired: okay, so what's the command you're trying to use?
[09:22] <sotired> im not sure what that means.....i just click on konsole
[09:22] <sotired> im kinda new at this...;0
[09:22] <iNiku> um... you click on konsole?
[09:22] <arso> DaSkreech:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16853
[09:22] <iNiku> mencoder is a command line tool, you need to give it arguments
[09:22] <sotired> i know...even with arguments i get the same error
[09:22] <iNiku> what arguments?
[09:23] <sotired> hold on... let me get it...its a biggie...ill pastebin
[09:23] <iNiku> the basic thing would be "mencoder foo.avi -o foo.mpeg" but that won't really do anything
[09:24] <arso> DaSkreech:  ur still there right?
[09:24] <angela> join #asterisk
[09:24] <arso> DaSkreech:  lol thnx
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> angela, no i wont..
[09:25] <DaSkreech> Ok What partitions do you want to mount
[09:26] <DaSkreech> And where do you want to mount them?
[09:26] <arso> DaSkreech:  hdb5    hdd6  hdb6
[09:26] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:27] <arso> DaSkreech:  wat do u mean where?
[09:27] <drcat> I am looking for kdeprintd, but can't find a file with that name
[09:27] <iNiku> drcat: we've all seen your question, thank you
[09:27] <iNiku> no need to repeat yourself over and over again
[09:27] <iNiku> all that's going to do is piss people off.
[09:27] <DaSkreech> arso: I assume that's to /mnt/hdd6 etc?
[09:27] <sotired> i cant find what i was using before...but no matter what i try to do with mencoder i get that error
[09:27] <iNiku> sotired: as I said, the syntax is less than obvious
[09:28] <iNiku> sotired: what do you need to re-encode the video as?
[09:28] <drcat> iNiku: sorry, i have no answers yet... and there are new users
[09:28] <iNiku> mpeg2, right?
[09:28] <sotired> mpeg2 i believe...for a standalone dvd player
[09:28] <|lostbyte|> sotired, HUH ?
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> sotired, what did you try to do with it ?
[09:29] <drcat> iNiku: that's why I repeat the message...
[09:29] <iNiku> sotired: something like mencoder input.divx -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2 -o output.mpeg
[09:29] <arso> DaSkreech:  umm i dont know ?sorry  , should they be there, or are u asking me where u want me to put them
[09:29] <sotired> mushc longer than that
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> drcat, its ok to repeeate, but leave a gap of 5 mins..
[09:29] <sotired> gimme a sec...im pulling it up
[09:29] <iNiku> sotired: start with that
[09:29] <DaSkreech> No I'm asking you where you normally put them
[09:29] <iNiku> sotired: that at least should not give you a syntax error
[09:30] <arso> DaSkreech:  sorry no idea :-(
[09:30] <iNiku> drcat: well, you don't need to do it every 30 seconds
[09:30] <iNiku> drcat: obviously no one here knows
[09:30] <drcat> |lostbyte|: ok, excuse me
[09:30] <DaSkreech> when you do sudo mount /dev/hdb6 what do you put after that?
[09:30] <gatekeeper> iNiku: is mencoder the best tool to use for this sort of a thing?
[09:30] <|lostbyte|> iNiku, you missed out.. -oac
[09:30] <drcat> iNiku: ok, I understand... :(
[09:30] <|lostbyte|> gatekeeper, what sort of thing ?
[09:30] <iNiku> gatekeeper: dunno, but mencoder is what I've been using for video transcoding for a long time
[09:31] <iNiku> it does a ton of different formats and works great once you manage to figure the syntax out
[09:31] <iNiku> |lostbyte|: oops, you're right
[09:31] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|:  what sotired is trying to do?
[09:31] <|lostbyte|> iNiku, thats nice, are you a Nokia mobile user ?
[09:31] <iNiku> sotired: something like mencoder input.divx -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg2 -oac copy -o output.mpeg
[09:31] <DaSkreech> arso: Ok refresh the pastebin page
[09:31] <iNiku> sotired: that should transcode the video to mpeg2 and copy the audio stream as it is
[09:32] <iNiku> sotired: the result probably won't work on a standalone dvd player but it's a start
[09:32] <|lostbyte|> gatekeeper, Yes it is, but very poor for video editing..
[09:32] <iNiku> |lostbyte|: yep, why?
[09:32] <DaSkreech> arso: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16856
[09:32] <gatekeeper> iNiku: ok found this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide unless you know a better guide?
[09:32] <arso> DaSkreech: umm i use "sudo mount /dev/hdxx /mnt/hdxx"
[09:32] <iNiku> |lostbyte|: I'm from Finland, I don't have any options :P
[09:32] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: ok :-)
[09:32] <_james> hey all!
[09:32] <DaSkreech> arso: RIght :-) Ok Look at the link I just gave
[09:33] <sotired> i understand, but what im looking to do and i *know* it's possible, is end up with a video_ts and audio_ts folders and burn straight from there
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> iNiku, Just wondering if you have used smartmovie, i was looking for a argument so i can convert spesific movies for it..
[09:33] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there something i can download besides build-essentials that helps with compiling stuff?
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> lol
[09:33] <sotired> i tried using ANY2DVD and it went and converted it, but the output was crap
[09:33] <sotired> it mader the dir structure but it hit a bunch of errors and never encoded the full movie
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> VieLGuS-KuTaS, usually thats whats required. and the libs for what your compiling for. but the package you mentioned has the make and stuff..
[09:34] <arso> DaSkreech:  so wat do ido with the link
[09:34] <sotired> in M$ i used to use a program called divxtodvd or something like that...i guess im looking for similar functionality, be it cmd line or gui
[09:34] <iNiku> |lostbyte|: nope, no idea what smartmovie is
[09:34] <DaSkreech> arso: You see the additions that I made?
[09:35] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> Hey Guys
[09:35] <DaSkreech> What are the partitons formatted as ?
[09:35] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> |lostbyte|: ok thanks
[09:35] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I would like to know how I would turn on "Direct Rendering"?
[09:35] <arso> DaSkreech:  u mean file system? ext3
[09:35] <iNiku> sotired: actually, I'd be surprised if there isn't something like that already
[09:35] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> I would like to know how I would turn on "Direct Rendering"?
[09:35] <DaSkreech> all three?
[09:35] <arso> YES
[09:35] <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> can anyone help me?
[09:36] <iNiku> sotired: I mean a script or app to do that in one command
[09:36] <drcat> ok, could anyone try to find the file 'kdeprintd' (KDE print server), please?
[09:36] <iNiku> I've never done it, though, so no idea
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Ok That Shoudl work then
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> iNiku, ok.. if you missed it. Its a video player for symbian mobiles. Its well known for its smoothness, and has a windows based converter that converts to avi spesific for the app. It compresses a large movie to only 70 to 90 MB ( with reduction of size )
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Add it in to your fstab and save
[09:36] <sotired> you would think
[09:36] <DaSkreech> Want me to explain the important parts?
[09:37] <iNiku> |lostbyte|: ah, ok. I don't have a symbian mobile
[09:37] <sotired> http://sourceforge.net/projects/any2dvd/  - this claims to convert, create chapters, and burn
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> arso, what you are doing should be understood. cause you will come across it very often...
[09:37] <sotired> but it seems to be foobar
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> k..k
[09:38] <sotired> fubar that is
[09:38] <sotired> im just suprised there arent like a million ppl trying to do this...
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> drcat, whats the file for ?
[09:39] <iNiku> sotired: yeah, that's a little surprising. I've never done it but I've done a bunch of other video stuff with mencoder
[09:39] <gupta> anybody on zsh?
[09:39] <iNiku> sotired: I'm sure you can convince mencoder do to the video transcoding properly, but the authoring/burning stuff still remains
[09:39] <iNiku> a correctly formatted video file alone won't help you
[09:39] <arso> DaSkreech:  sure\
[09:40] <gatekeeper> sotired: don't know if this is of any use but taking a look in synaptic I find avidemux http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
[09:40] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: please don't send me private messages; address the channel
[09:40] <arso> DaSkreech:  how do i add it to fstab , and it kinda looks the same?
[09:40] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: did you install libxine-extracodecs?
[09:40] <sotired> ill be back...
[09:40] <crimsun> omgwtflolbbq: the GSt packages aren't relevant for you.
[09:40] <sotired> consider that fair warning
[09:40] <DaSkreech> arso: You still have kate open?
[09:42] <sotired> gatekeeper: i've been using adept, i thought synaptic was only in ubuntu. how do iaccess it in kubuntu?
[09:42] <clinckarts> Bonsoir
[09:42] <clinckarts> Or good evening if english
[09:43] <gatekeeper> sotired: apt-get install synaptic - BTW welcome back :-)
[09:43] <sotired> :) thanks
[09:43] <dna_> Can anyone recommend a firewall gui for kubuntu? I tried firestarter because it looked cool and simple but it will eat up all my cpu when running, maybe because its and slow gtk app?
[09:43] <gatekeeper> your welcome I prefer synaptic to adept
[09:43] <arso> DaSkreech:  yes, its on
[09:43] <DaSkreech> Ok well paste the contents in there
[09:44] <sotired> what is the differance between synaptic and adept, if any
[09:44] <arso> DaSkreech:  delete old  contents, or add this to it
[09:44] <clinckarts> Can somebody explain me how to get eclipse from adept? (Package manager)
[09:44] <clinckarts> Thanks
[09:44] <DaSkreech> arso: Either that you like :) make sure to backup the current one
[09:45] <arso> k
[09:45] <DaSkreech> Never throw away a good config file
[09:45] <DaSkreech> ;-)
[09:45] <gupta> export PS1="whatever" --- shouldn't this change the prompt?
[09:45] <gatekeeper> sotired:  both are package managers I just find synaptic easier to use, and lost faith in adept when I got it into an infinite loop in breezy
[09:45] <arso> ok done
[09:45] <arso> is saved old one
[09:45] <arso> and replaced this and saved i t
[09:45] <arso> now wat?
[09:45] <sotired> i see
[09:45] <arso> should be done now?
[09:46] <DaSkreech> ok you have them mounted already I take it?
[09:46] <gatekeeper> sotired: some people like KDE others like Gnome (that sort of thing) linux gives you choice :-)
[09:47] <clinckarts> No idea how to install eclipse?
[09:47] <arso> DaSkreech:  yes,should i reboot and see if they auto mount?
[09:47] <|lostbyte|> clinckarts, sudo apt-get install eclipse
[09:47] <DaSkreech> arso: No they won't yet
[09:47] <DaSkreech> sudo umount /mnt/hdd6
[09:48] <gatekeeper> clinckarts: use your package manager it's in the repositories
[09:48] <DaSkreech> then just type mount /dev/hdd6
[09:48] <DaSkreech> No Sudo
[09:48] <sprudl> I'm trying to install liblame but there is no installation candidate... I can't find a repository with it... does anyone know where to find it?
[09:48] <DaSkreech> Tell me if it mounts :)
[09:49] <crimsun> sprudl: liblame0 is in multiverse.
[09:49] <clinckarts> Eclipse is not present in adept
[09:49] <arso> warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[09:49] <arso> mount: only root can mount /dev/hdd6 on none
[09:49] <crimsun> clinckarts: eclipse-platform is in universe
[09:49] <clinckarts> But I just installed the Synaptic
[09:49] <clinckarts> And there it is
[09:49] <sprudl> crimsun: I know, I follwed instructions on the restricted formats page.. but apt still can't find it
[09:49] <DaSkreech> ok put in an extra line in the fstab file
[09:49] <gatekeeper> sprudl: says it's in multiverse
[09:49] <DaSkreech> and then type mount /mnt/hdd6
[09:49] <crimsun> sprudl: it's definitely in multiverse
[09:49] <clinckarts> What is uniserve?
[09:50] <pipitas> quick question: has Kubuntu Dapper KTTS pre-installed?
[09:50] <sotired> its where all things exist...
[09:50] <arso> DaSkreech:  write  wat in extra line
[09:50] <DaSkreech> Nothing it has to end with an empty blank line
[09:50] <gatekeeper> sprudl: follow these instructions: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:51] <arso> DaSkreech:  sorrry i closed fstab by mistake, how do iopen again?
[09:51] <DaSkreech> Alt+F2 -> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[09:51] <DaSkreech> Does it mount?
[09:52] <arso> mount mnt/hdd6
[09:52] <arso> mount: can't find mnt/hdd6 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:52] <arso> wtf
[09:52] <sotired> i need the exact opposite of this http://drip.sourceforge.net/about.php
[09:52] <|lostbyte|> arso, you didt save..
[09:52] <clinckarts> I'm trying... Thanks
[09:52] <|lostbyte|> ARG !
[09:52] <arso> ok worked
[09:52] <DaSkreech> ok
[09:52] <arso> notthat mustve typed wrong,when i paste "mount /mnt/hdd6" it wo rked
[09:52] <DaSkreech> With no sudo?
[09:53] <arso> no sudo :D
[09:53] <arso> now reboot?
[09:53] <DaSkreech> Sweet :)
[09:53] <DaSkreech> No :)
[09:53] <arso> lol
[09:53] <clinckarts> First install gedit ;-)
[09:53] <sotired> its a shame i dont know how to code, or i would write my own
[09:54] <gatekeeper> clinckarts: apt-get install gedit, but you could use something like nano from the command line if you want to
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> sotired, shame on you :P
[09:54] <clinckarts> Tks, I already install gedit...
[09:54] <arso> DaSkreech:  so now wat
[09:54] <DaSkreech> ok what we just did was allow you to mount the partitions without root
[09:54] <clinckarts> But know I get anoter problem
[09:54] <clinckarts> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:54] <clinckarts> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:54] <clinckarts> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:54] <clinckarts> cannot open display: (null)
[09:55] <clinckarts> Run 'gedit --help' to see a full list of available command line options.
[09:55] <sprudl> ok... those repositories worked
[09:55] <sprudl> thanks
[09:55] <sotired> well, im going back to college in the fall and im thinking of taking some relevant classes
[09:55] <arso> DaSkreech:  i seeeeee
[09:55] <arso> DaSkreech:  oops" seeeeeee" by mistake
[09:55] <DaSkreech> So now you can start them up at startup :_
[09:55] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command for getting dependencies?
[09:55] <haffe> College is nice.
[09:55] <sotired> when it comes to networking or web design im in the know...but coding..im clueless
[09:55] <haffe> I went there for a couple of classes.
[09:55] <DaSkreech> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16861
[09:56] <DaSkreech> Copy that into a new file
[09:56] <DaSkreech> and save it to some file
[09:56] <zorglu1> clinckarts: replace sudo by kdesu
[09:57] <gatekeeper> catch you latter folks :-)
[09:57] <haffe> sotired: As I said, college is nice.
[09:57] <arso> DaSkreech:  where  should isave it??/
[09:57] <clinckarts> kdesudo ???
[09:58] <DaSkreech> arso anywhere for right now
[09:58] <arso> k
[09:58] <clinckarts> kdesu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:58] <clinckarts> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:58] <clinckarts> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:58] <clinckarts> kdesu: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[09:58] <DaSkreech> when you save it make it executable
[09:58] <DaSkreech> well after you save it :)
[09:58] <zorglu1> clinckarts: hue ? try gnomesu then
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> sotired, dont give up yet.. http://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=242455
[09:58] <Hhhhh> hey guys, in this older box: PIII 667 Mhz, 384 MB RAM, kubuntu or xubuntu? opinions?
[09:58] <zorglu1> !kdesu
[09:58] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[09:58] <clinckarts> No... I'm running KDE
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> Hhhhh, ANy one..
[09:58] <zorglu1> clinckarts: try and report
[09:59] <Hhhhh> |lostbyte|, would kubuntu be kindof slow in that hardware?
[09:59] <sotired> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16864 this is what i was typing in mencoder earlier btw
[09:59] <sotired> eww java
[09:59] <sotired> :)
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> Hhhhh, YEah ! point is to disable all the fancy effects and styles that come by default..
[09:59] <clinckarts> Tks... I get the editor now
[10:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command for getting dependencies?
[10:00] <zorglu1> clinckarts: do 'id' too and paste the result here, in the same terminal where you type the command
[10:00] <zorglu1> clinckarts: what was wrong ?
[10:00] <arso> DaSkreech:  how, to make it executable
[10:00] <DaSkreech> arso: Gui way or CLI? :)
[10:00] <haffe> arso:  chmod +x
[10:00] <DaSkreech> GUI is browe to it in Konqui Right Click -> Properties and check make Executable
[10:01] <|lostbyte|> Hhhhh, Compare. : http://conference2005.kde.org/slides/kde-performance/html/slide_4.html
[10:01] <arso> k
[10:01] <DaSkreech> CLI is much better thought :)
[10:01] <arso> k then how in cli?
[10:01] <haffe> arso: I just gave you an answer, sudo chmod +x
[10:01] <arso> haffe:  how abooout file name?
[10:01] <omeow> Audio recorder for Linux? (one that doesn't look like shite)
[10:01] <DaSkreech> chmod u+x /path/to/file
[10:02] <arso> oh ok
[10:02] <DaSkreech> arso: astute :)
[10:02] <arso> done
[10:02] <Hhhhh> omeow, audacity
[10:03] <Hhhhh> very good one
[10:03] <|lostbyte|> omeow, sudo apt-cache search recorder | grep audio
[10:03] <arso> DaSkreech:  done
[10:03] <DaSkreech> ok now move that file to ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:03] <omeow> Hhhhh: Have you used Audacity on Linux yet?
[10:03] <DaSkreech> and when you login Your drives should be mounted :)
[10:03] <Hhhhh> omeow, yes
[10:04] <Hhhhh> it works fine
[10:04] <omeow> But it's horrid.
[10:04] <omeow> motifffffffffffff
[10:04] <Hhhhh> what do you mean by that
[10:04] <Hhhhh> audacity does not use motif >:(
[10:04] <arso> DaSkreech:  literally "~/.kde/Autostart" and filename anything? and how  do i make sure its executable =)
[10:04] <clinckarts> Thaks for help...
[10:04] <Hhhhh> it uses wxWidgets
[10:04] <omeow> Well, whatever it uses, it's fucking ugly as hell. =/
[10:04] <iNiku> isn't the sound more important in an audio recorder? :P
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> lolz
[10:05] <Hhhhh> omeow, it's probably the best recorder for linux, regardless of how it looks
[10:05] <fiyawerx> what is?
[10:05] <Hhhhh> personally I like how it looks
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> me too
[10:05] <Hhhhh> I think audacity looks sassy
[10:05] <Hhhhh> ;)
[10:05] <fiyawerx> what prog?
[10:06] <Hhhhh> audacity
[10:06] <omeow> I must be doing something wrong.
[10:06] <fiyawerx> ahh
[10:06] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how can i install kdelibs, i want toi install x32 and x64 kdelibs
[10:06] <clinckarts> Should I install "Easy Ubuntu " with kubuntu?
[10:06] <omeow> http://omeow.ath.cx/audauuhblagh.png
[10:07] <omeow> "sassy"?
[10:07] <fiyawerx> !easysource
[10:07] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> !linux virus
[10:08] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[10:08] <DaSkreech> arso: Click the file in Konqueror and it will tell you
[10:08] <Hhhhh> omeow, it looks nice, I like how it doesn't look like just about any other GUI
[10:08] <Hhhhh> I like wxWindows
[10:09] <DaSkreech> arso: on the CLI you can type ls -l filename and it will show you a listing of letters
[10:09] <omeow> It looks like friggin pre windows 3.11 man. :)
[10:09] <DaSkreech>  if x is there then it's executable :)
[10:10] <DaSkreech> omeow: You mean ..... windows 3,10 *gasp*
[10:10] <arso> u mean *anything ?
[10:10] <Hhhhh> omeow, at any rate, if you don't like it look for something else. But audacity is probably the best audio recorder software for linux out there. The GUI works well (although you may not like it), and if you're just gonna drop audacity because it doesn't look "nice", your loss
[10:10] <omeow> I know it's great, but the interface looks 10 times better on Windows that it does on Linux.
[10:10] <arso> DaSkreech:  that x?
[10:10] <omeow> I get diamond shaped radio options for christ sakes! =D
[10:11] <Hhhhh> ok, then a) get over it and use it or b)look for something else
[10:11] <sotired> i am trying to use that VARSHA method, but i cant get varsha to work :( i havee all of the dependancies
[10:11] <sotired> this is not my day
[10:11] <sotired> Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from varsha.jar
[10:11] <omeow> Yeah, I'm looking for something better, but krec and krecord are a total joke.
[10:11] <DaSkreech> You will see something like -rwxr--r-- 1 skreech skreech 59 2006-06-06 23:42 bin/mountall.sh
[10:11] <omeow> oh well. I guess i'll put up with the interface. :)
[10:11] <sotired> nevermind
[10:11] <DaSkreech> the -rwxr--r--  section means r= read w= write x= executable
[10:11] <sotired> my fault
[10:11] <niekie> Hmm... I reinstalled Kubuntu Dapper 6.06 (well, Ubuntu with kubuntu-desktop, since I had that CD on hand) today, and GL screensavers are suddenly not working anymore, but they used to do, anyone know how to fix this?
[10:12] <Hhhhh> omeow, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Audio_editors_.2F_audio_management
[10:12] <sotired> wait...still not working :)
[10:12] <niekie> I installed the nVidia drivers correctly, and direct rendering is now available.
[10:12] <Hhhhh> see if something there looks "nicer". But that shouldn't matter that much, IMO
[10:13] <arso> DaSkreech:  its not x
[10:13] <arso> DaSkreech:  i messed   the command, tell me again please?
[10:13] <DaSkreech> What does yours say for the file?
[10:13] <DaSkreech> chmod u+x filename
[10:13] <arso> rw r r
[10:13] <arso> filename or file path
[10:13] <sotired> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16865 this si the output varsha is giving me if anyone can make sense of it
[10:14] <arso> DaSkreech:  sorry  can we do the gui method
[10:14] <DaSkreech> well if you are in the same folder then filename otherwise it's path to filename
[10:14] <DaSkreech> ceramik: Hi
[10:14] <DaSkreech> arso: No problem Find hte file in Konqueror and right click -> Properties
[10:15] <omeow> How can I record from microphone, but stop it from being played over my audio system?
[10:15] <haffe> mute the rec-in.
[10:15] <omeow> I want to use the microphone
[10:15] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how can i install kdelibs, i want toi install x32 and x64 kdelibs
[10:15] <arso> DaSkreech:  then? be specific i am noob sorry
[10:15] <DaSkreech> Permissons -> is executble
[10:15] <haffe> omeow: Muting it isn't the same as not recording from it.
[10:15] <omeow> That seems to have no effect, haffe.
[10:16] <omeow> I'm using an SBLive! card here.
[10:16] <omeow> For some reason kmix has labeled my microphone as AC97 (something I have onboard but is disabled in the BIOS)
[10:16] <clinckarts> Ok, I install the lasted sources.list
[10:16] <arso> DaSkreech:  ok done, its x too now, so where do i copy to please
[10:16] <clinckarts> Work fine
[10:16] <DaSkreech> ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:17] <clinckarts> But... I see now the eclipse package...
[10:17] <DaSkreech> Anything in that folder that is executable gets run when KDE starts
[10:17] <clinckarts> But not the lastest version... 3.2
[10:17] <DaSkreech> so it mounts all of your drives :)
[10:17] <arso> when i pasted it
[10:17] <arso> permissions became rw onlly
[10:17] <arso> should i make it x gagin
[10:17] <arso> again*
[10:18] <arso> i made it   rwx...
[10:18] <DeadS0ul> ze germans won XD
[10:19] <clinckarts> Any idea? The server are not uptodate or my sources.list is wrong?
[10:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how can i install kdelibs, i want toi install x32 and x64 kdelibs
[10:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command for getting dependencies?
[10:19] <ceramik> mmm i don't have permission to save the new /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:20] <DaSkreech> arso: Umm ok sure :)
[10:20] <clinckarts> kdesu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <clinckarts> it will give you more right
[10:21] <word> where's the error log for what happens when the xorg.conf is messed up?
[10:21] <ceramik> k
[10:21] <haffe> word: /var/log/
[10:21] <sotired> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16865 this si the output varsha is giving me if anyone can make sense of it
[10:22] <arso> DaSkreech:  so doesnt matteR?
[10:22] <arso> DaSkreech:  should i try to run it,make sure its right
[10:22] <DaSkreech> Sure
[10:23] <clinckarts> Why Can I not install last version of eclipse from package manager?
[10:23] <ubuntu> Hi! I|m new to kubuntu.
[10:23] <arso> DaSkreech:  the original is 94bytes new one is 16bytes!?
[10:23] <DaSkreech>  in a konsole type pathname/to/file or if you are in the same folder ./filename
[10:23] <word> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) err...
[10:23] <DaSkreech> arso: Original what?
[10:23] <arso> DaSkreech:  the one i saved, the exe, after i pasted in autorun it became 16b
[10:23] <ceramik> yes thx! i have found the libxine-extracodecs, big kiss to all
[10:24] <DaSkreech> ceramik: kool
[10:25] <ubuntu> I'm trying to install kubuntu 6.06 on an amd 64 using ext3. But everytime I boot, I can see L 99 99 99 99 99 and o  on. What is wrong?
[10:25] <DaSkreech> arso: open it in an editor and make sure it's the same
[10:25] <ceramik> and i can play mp3 files :) i realy like my new os and his community
[10:25] <DaSkreech> ceramik: Welcome :)
[10:26] <arso> DaSkreech:  can  u please       give me complete path of "~/.kde/Autostart" so i'll right click the file and "move to"
[10:26] <DaSkreech> Sorry :) ~ is the same as your home folder
[10:27] <DaSkreech>  so if you are copying to ~ it's the same thing as /home/<username>/
[10:27] <clinckarts> Where to find list of chanel for developpers?
[10:27] <DaSkreech> So ~/.kde/Autostart is the same as /home/<username>/.kde/Autostart
[10:28] <DaSkreech> I'm not sure that Rightclick allows you to copy there
[10:28] <DaSkreech> .kde is a hidden folder
[10:28] <sotired> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16865 ?
[10:28] <DaSkreech> ceramik: Any thing else we can help you with?
[10:28] <arso> DaSkreech:  so how should i do it?
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Well I guess you saved it in ~ ?
[10:29] <ceramik> no thx, now i enjoy my music and my multiverse :)
[10:29] <arso> DaSkreech:  yes
[10:29] <DaSkreech> Ok In Konqueror Go view -> show hidden files
[10:29] <DaSkreech> And you will now have a lot of new folders :)
[10:30] <arso> k thnx
[10:30] <tadas> does anyone uses cell phone on PC?
[10:30] <arso> when i am in "~/.kde/Autostart" and preeess ctrl+v , they tell me
[10:30] <DaSkreech> Drag the file over the .kde folder and wait a little and Konqueror will open it for you keep doing that to the path you need to go to when you let go of the file it will ask if you want to make a copy or move
[10:30] <arso> ok it works now
[10:30] <arso> i pasted it and its 96b
[10:31] <clinckarts> Some help please...
[10:31] <arso> so restart now
[10:31] <crparr> Hi! I've successfully installed Kubuntu 6.06 AMD64 on an AMD 64. But everytime I try to boot, |I only can see "L 99 99 99 99 99 99 99 99" and so on,. What is the reason and how can it be fixed_
[10:31] <clinckarts> I don't find eclipse 3.2... and jboss and so on in my package explorer
[10:32] <arso> DaSkreech:  be right back i'l restart\
[10:32] <DaSkreech> arso Ok
[10:32] <arso> DaSkreech:  thanx a lot man, u were really helpful, i appreciate it
[10:33] <crparr> I had Lilop installed instead of Grub. Can that be the reason_
[10:33] <arso> DaSkreech:  ohh btw , if i want to add a partition to the automount on boot thing, how will i do that! :S
[10:33] <clinckarts> I'm very new to linux...
[10:33] <DaSkreech> arso: Show you when you reboot :)
[10:33] <arso> DaSkreech:  lol k :P
[10:34] <clinckarts> Is a 686 version of linux faster ?
[10:34] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a command to add to compile to auomatically download the libs its missing?
[10:35] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> to add to configure
[10:35] <astro_-> "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166"  Anyone know  why do I get that when running apt-get install?  Could it be related to the fact that I first installed Ubuntu and then switched to KDE with apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[10:35] <yanis> how do I remove kubuntu-default-settings?
[10:35] <fiyawerx> !lamp
[10:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[10:35] <astro_-> apt-get install still works, but I get that error when it runs
[10:36] <arso> DaSkreech:  omg, theyre not mounted :(
[10:36] <DaSkreech> Hmmm
[10:37] <arso> altho
[10:37] <arso> wait
[10:37] <arso> when i clicked on a partition
[10:37] <arso> it opened
[10:37] <arso> and became mounted
[10:37] <DaSkreech> There you go :)
[10:37] <arso> 2 out of the three
[10:37] <arso> but the third one didnt work
[10:37] <DaSkreech> Oh. Which one?
[10:37] <DaSkreech>  /mnt/?
[10:37] <arso> hdd6
[10:37] <crparr> how can I clean the mbr of a harddisk? My previous install used lilo. now I'd like to use grub.
[10:37] <arso> DaSkreech:  hdd6
[10:37] <unix_infidel> :)
[10:37] <djk_> where can i disable the restore session mode?
[10:38] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[10:38] <DaSkreech> thats' ext3 as well?
[10:38] <arso> DaSkreech:  hold on i'll cehck
[10:39] <arso> yes its ext3
[10:39] <arso> could it be theres a conflict in the mnt directory
[10:40] <arso> coz when i was trying out, i created many while trying
[10:41] <Goofer> Hi everyone Do someone know how to use gstreamer with Kaffeine ??
[10:42] <DaSkreech> haha :)
[10:42] <DaSkreech> Ok how many folders do you have?
[10:42] <arso> DaSkreech:  where? and how to find out please
[10:42] <DaSkreech> You have a /mnt/hdd6 right?
[10:42] <arso> i suppose
[10:43] <DaSkreech> and a /dev/hdd6 ?
[10:43] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i install GTK+ >= 1.2.2
[10:43] <arso> DaSkreech:  donno really, just tell me how to chek please
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Look in /dev for a file called hdd6 :)
[10:44] <arso> thanx :)
[10:44] <DaSkreech> Just like you would look in /mnt for a folder called hdd6
[10:44] <Goofer>  Hi. So Do someone can help me ?? I have a gstreamer installed but I don't know how to use it with Kaffeine ?? :)
[10:45] <arso> there is in dev
[10:45] <arso> checking mnt
[10:45] <arso> and there is in mnt
[10:47] <DaSkreech> Hmmmm
[10:47] <DaSkreech> ok type mount /mnt/hdd6 on the command line
[10:47] <DaSkreech> See if it throws an error
[10:47] <Raito> For some reason JuK can't play mp3's I can play them in amaroK and Kaffeine but not JuK why?
[10:47] <arso> nope
[10:48] <arso> its mounted now
[10:48] <arso> i mean no errors, it worked, the partition is now mounttted
[10:48] <BoSJo> Hi all: I seem to have some troubbles keeping a steady Wlan connection, no problems on Win on the same machine. Should i try installing a driver i found, or would that just mess things up?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> Ahh!
[10:49] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> is there a command to add to compile to auomatically download the libs its missing?
[10:49] <DaSkreech> I know
[10:49] <DaSkreech> arso: Put an empty line at the end of the file :) there is no enter
[10:49] <djk_> how do i restart cups?
[10:49] <arso> DaSkreech:  which file please? the one we made executable?
[10:50] <DaSkreech> ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:50] <arso> ok
[10:50] <arso> but how come 2out of 3 drives worked, but not this one
[10:51] <arso> ok done
[10:51] <arso> and saved
[10:51] <pipitas> djk_: "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[10:51] <Raito> For some reason JuK can't play mp3's I can play them in amaroK and Kaffeine but not JuK why?
[10:52] <djk_> pipitas: thanks
[10:52] <arso> DaSkreech:  so were done now? should i reboot and see
[10:52] <DaSkreech> arso: You don't need to if you don't want to :)
[10:53] <centyx> anybody know how to get amarok to play windows media? i've got kaffeine playing windows media ok.
[10:53] <arso> DaSkreech:  areu  positive it would work now?
[10:53] <djk_> what shall i do if all printing jobs are queued and the printer isn't busy?
[10:53] <DaSkreech> arso: No type umount /mnt/hdd6
[10:53] <arso> u mean unmount?
[10:54] <DaSkreech> And try get into the /mnt/hdd6 folder
[10:54] <DaSkreech> No It' umount :)
[10:54] <arso> k sorry
[10:54] <DaSkreech> I hate that too
[10:54] <arso> in terminal or command?
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Yes
[10:54] <Hawkwind> That is one of the most confusing things about linux is mount and the umount
[10:54] <arso> lol
[10:54] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: I'm fairly certain I can find worse things
[10:54] <DaSkreech>  Like setting the time with the data command
[10:55] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Heh true.  But it's in the top 25 atleast :P
[10:55] <DaSkreech> agreed
[10:55] <arso> ok i
[10:55] <arso> umount it
[10:55] <Hawkwind> Distros should make unmount a default alias to umount
[10:55] <DaSkreech> you can't see anything in the fodler now?
[10:55] <arso> no
[10:56] <arso> its blank
[10:56] <DaSkreech> ok now type ~/.kde/Autostart/Filethingythatmounts
[10:56] <DaSkreech> Don't copy and paste that ;-)
[10:56] <DaSkreech> and try the folder again
[10:56] <Hawkwind> LOL
[10:56] <arso> sorry .... wat?
[10:57] <jerry> I have a question
[10:57] <arso> the executable file?
[10:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> yoooo
[10:57] <DaSkreech> You have a filethingythatmounts in the ~/.kde/Autostart folder right?
[10:57] <centyx> jerry: ask away
[10:57] <DaSkreech> Yes :)
[10:57] <jerry> where is KDE located?
[10:57] <arso> yes
[10:57] <arso> wat should i do with it
[10:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i upgrade dependencies ??
[10:57] <DaSkreech> I don't know the name of it :)
[10:57] <jerry> I'm trying to install kmc-0.9
[10:57] <arso> "anything" so wat should i do with it
[10:57] <jerry> and it says that it can't find KDE
[10:57] <jerry> or rather the headers
[10:58] <yanis> how do I mount a samba resource?
[10:58] <DaSkreech> ok now type ~/.kde/Autostart/anything
[10:58] <DaSkreech> in the command line
[10:58] <arso> hmm, nothing is opening
[10:59] <centyx> jerry: apt-get install kdelibs4-dev
[10:59] <clinckarts> Need some help with strange error
[10:59] <DaSkreech> anything is the name of the script?
[11:00] <clinckarts> sudo gedit /usr/share/applications/azureus.desktop
[11:00] <clinckarts> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:00] <clinckarts>   Major opcode:  145
[11:00] <clinckarts>   Minor opcode:  3
[11:00] <clinckarts>   Resource id:  0x0
[11:00] <clinckarts> Failed to open device
[11:00] <clinckarts> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[11:00] <centyx> anyone know how to remove kmplayer-plugins-konq w/out removing kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <Raito> centyx: You can't, I don't think so anyways
[11:00] <arso> yes
[11:01] <arso> anything
[11:02] <centyx> I forgot to eat lunch today.
[11:02] <cebi> does anyone tell me the address of undernet?
[11:02] <centyx> i can never connect to undernet, or dal net.
[11:02] <Hawkwind> cebi: http://undernet.org
[11:02] <ceramik> i have another question, why my ubuntu is two time in my grub?
[11:03] <arso> DaSkreech:  so any thoughts?
[11:03] <Hawkwind> clinckarts: Please use pastebin next time for your pastes and not the channel
[11:03] <cebi> because you've probably updated kernel
[11:03] <cebi> ceramik, you can uninstall previous kernel
[11:03] <ceramik> ok
[11:03] <ceramik> in grub?
[11:03] <DaSkreech> erm >.<
[11:03] <cebi> you can remove from grub. but i prefer removing previous kernel from synaptic packet manager.
[11:04] <ceramik> ok :)
[11:04] <centyx> ceramik: look for the line # howmany=all and change it to # howmany=1
[11:04] <arso> DaSkreech:  were stuck?
[11:04] <centyx> ceramik: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:04] <DaSkreech> arso: Nope :)
[11:04] <clinckarts> Hawkwind: ??? I will try... Never did that before
[11:04] <Hawkwind> !pastebin
[11:04] <centyx> ceramik: than run update-grub
[11:04] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:05] <ceramik> ok thx centyx
[11:05] <clinckarts> !pastebin
[11:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:05] <DaSkreech> arso: Lets see. You have an empty line in ~/.kde/Autostart/anything ?
[11:05] <arso> yes
[11:05] <arso> at the end
[11:05] <arso> i added one, i'll check again
[11:06] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i enable coclors and autocomplete in the konsole?
[11:06] <arso> when i opened it now, it was gone, i just press enter once and save?
[11:06] <DaSkreech> Yes
[11:06] <arso> ok done
[11:06] <DaSkreech> ok now type ~/.kde/Autostart/anything
[11:07] <arso> alt
[11:07] <arso> f2?
[11:07] <DaSkreech> Sure :)
[11:07] <arso> still nothing
[11:07] <DaSkreech> >_<
[11:07] <arso> aha
[11:07] <arso> as i thought
[11:07] <arso> when i opened it again
[11:07] <arso> the line was gone
[11:08] <Ertain> In the udev rules, does a file in /etc/udev/rules.d gain precedence over another file if it's number is lower?  In an example, 10-foo.rules and 20-fubu.rules, would 10-foo.rules get read by udev before 20-fubu.rules?
[11:08] <DaSkreech> >_<
[11:08] <arso> the line isnt staying
[11:09] <Hawkwind> Ertain: I know very little about udev, but I'm almost positive the lower the number the earlier it gets read
[11:09] <DaSkreech> erm. Maybe I'm on the wrong track?
[11:09] <DaSkreech> Lemme think
[11:09] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Ertain: what did u just call my mama?
[11:09] <arso> umm donno
[11:09] <arso> k think
[11:10] <arso> thnx :)
[11:10] <Ertain> VieLGuS-KuTaS: Uh... VieLGuS-KuTaS's mother?
[11:10] <clinckarts> I did the psot...
[11:10] <clinckarts> post
[11:10] <uniq> ertain: yes.
[11:11] <DaSkreech> arso: You are editing this in kate I guess?
[11:11] <arso> yes kate
[11:11] <DaSkreech> And it's not keeping the end line?
[11:11] <DaSkreech> ......
[11:12] <arso> nope
[11:12] <arso> should we try a different editor or somethin
[11:12] <gatekeeper> what are yiu trying to do?
[11:14] <arso> add a blank line to some file on kate
[11:14] <arso> configuration file i believe
[11:14] <arso> but everytime i add a line and save,open it again, the line is gone
[11:15] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: I'm trying to get his drives to mount on startup
[11:15] <DaSkreech> So I added user to the /etc/fstab
[11:15] <gatekeeper> DaSkreech: ohh
[11:16] <DaSkreech> and made a little shell script to drop in /.kde/Autostart
[11:16] <arso> wow, u guys speak another language :P
[11:16] <DaSkreech> They all run except the last line
[11:16] <arso> which is the 3d of 3 partitions
[11:16] <gatekeeper> is the partition ok?
[11:16] <DaSkreech> Which has no empty line after it so I'm thinking it's not running
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Yup
[11:17] <DaSkreech> He can type mount /mnt/folder from the command line and it works
[11:17] <gatekeeper> hmm
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, it should be users, not user.
[11:17] <DaSkreech> Thats ok :0
[11:18] <arso> so , u guys come up  with anything?
[11:19] <jerry> I have a question
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> arso, could you pastebin your current fstab file.
[11:19] <jerry> ok I got configure to work on kmc-0.9 but when I type make I get two errors
[11:20] <arso> |lostbyte|:  sure
[11:21] <arso> umm wats the link for paste bin please?
[11:21] <arso> nvm found it
[11:22] <DaSkreech> Everytime he puts in an empty line it gets erased :()
[11:23] <arso> :-(
[11:23] <gatekeeper> in fstab?
[11:23] <arso> |lostbyte|:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16872
[11:23] <jerry> oh it says ../kperl.h:49 error: extra ';' and ../kcolorstring.h:183: error: extra ';'
[11:24] <arso> gatekeeper:  "and made a little shell script to drop in /.kde/Autostart"
[11:24] <arso> gatekeeper:  in that 'shell'
[11:26] <clinckarts> How to resolve dependencies? Tks
[11:27] <jerry> namespace KPerl { enum EventType{Invalid, Input, Connect, Disconnect, TelnetOp, TelnetSubOp, Exit, LoggedIn}; };
[11:27] <uniq> clinckarts: apt-get -f install
[11:27] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: No it owrks in the fstab but not in the shell script. I have a extra line on the end of my shell scripit
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> arso, remove r
[11:27] <gatekeeper> DaSkreech: isn't his fstab a little screwed line 6 and line 10?
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> arso, remove rw
[11:27] <arso> |lostbyte|:  ? from where
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> and change user to users.
[11:28] <arso> from right click properties permission of fstab?
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> arso, from fstab..
[11:28] <uniq> user is a valid fstab option.
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> no from the text its self..
[11:28] <DaSkreech> arso: in fstab where it says rw and user
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> and i dont think you need the shell script..
[11:28] <clinckarts> uniq: I did it... But no change
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> DaSkreech, why ? did you use it.
[11:28] <uniq> rw is also valid.
[11:29] <DaSkreech> gatekeeper: good eye
[11:29] <uniq> clinckarts: how do you know the deps are borken then?
[11:29] <DaSkreech> arso: Question you can mount /dev/hdd6 and get files?
[11:29] <gatekeeper> :-)
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> uniq, defaults is Equivalent to rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async.
[11:29] <arso> DaSkreech:  yes,
[11:29] <arso> i watched a movie from it
[11:29] <DaSkreech> Where is your swap partition?
[11:29] <arso> so guys i have to remove  R ,RW , and make user users?
[11:29] <clinckarts> I try to install eclipse... an get an error during selection for install
[11:29] <arso> DaSkreech:  wat do u mean where?
[11:30] <franz_> i have just installed kubuntu on my hdd, but i have a major problem: it refuses to start kde as user
[11:30] <uniq> |lostbyte|: i know, defaults,rw doesn't toggle rw back to ro.
[11:30] <DaSkreech> Which partiton is it on?
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> uniq, just keeping it clean.
[11:30] <clinckarts> Now I'm installing updates I found
[11:31] <|lostbyte|> arso, also did you create the /mnt/hdb5 and /mnt/hdb6 dir..
[11:31] <|lostbyte|> cause you need them..
[11:31] <arso> umm donno, hold on i;l check
[11:31] <|lostbyte|> arso, also remove nouser.
[11:31] <arso> ok
[11:31] <franz_> it says " your saved session type "01KDE" is not valid anymore. Please select a new one, utherwise "default" will be used
[11:32] <uniq> |lostbyte|: what is his problem?
[11:32] <arso> where is nouser?
[11:32] <clinckarts> The error still open
[11:32] <clinckarts> eclipse:
[11:32] <clinckarts>  Dpend: eclipse-jdt mais ne doit pas tre install
[11:32] <clinckarts>  Dpend: eclipse-pde mais ne doit pas tre install
[11:32] <clinckarts>  Dpend: eclipse-source mais ne doit pas tre install
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> arso, soory ! thought you had..
[11:32] <arso> lol k
[11:32] <|lostbyte|> uniq, he cant mount.. as far as i can see..
[11:33] <|lostbyte|> uniq, i was'nt following it from start..
[11:33] <uniq> |lostbyte|: ok, me neither.
[11:33] <uniq> arso: what is your problem?
[11:33] <DaSkreech> He wants to have his drives automount at start
[11:33] <arso> uniq:  umm, my partitions dont auto load on startup, but now after DaSkreech helped me with fstab two out of three can
[11:33] <|lostbyte|> arso, have you made the changes ?
[11:33] <arso> yes
[11:34] <arso> and i do have hdb5/6 dir
[11:34] <uniq> you want to automount as your user?
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> arso, create them..
[11:34] <gatekeeper> eveyone is in on the act :-) :-)
[11:34] <clinckarts> Do I need to reboot?
[11:34] <arso> :D
[11:34] <uniq> I can see that you have 'noauto' so that would explain why it doesn't automount.
[11:34] <arso> |lostbyte|:  i HAVE them
[11:34] <arso> umm where?
[11:34] <arso> in fstab?
[11:34] <uniq> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16872
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> arso, ok ! now type ------> sudo mount /mnt/hdb5
[11:34] <uniq> line 9,10,11
[11:35] <arso> people this is how my fstab currently is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16876
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> sudo is optional.. as you added the users option..
[11:35] <gatekeeper> uniq: look at line 6
[11:35] <arso> |lostbyte|:  already mounted
[11:35] <Tommy2k4> how to force remove a directory?
[11:35] <uniq> gatekeeper: yes.. swap.
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> arso, ok ! umount it and try again..
[11:36] <arso> sudo unmount /mnt/hdb5 ?
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> arso, if that works.. it will surly automount in the start..
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> arso, yup !
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> umount*
[11:36] <arso> ya
[11:36] <arso> i noticed, it didnt work
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> any errors ?
[11:37] <arso> no
[11:37] <arso> no errors
[11:37] <uniq> arso: what drives is it you have problems automounting at startup? hdb5, hdd6 and hdb6?
[11:37] <gatekeeper> uniq: not sure if it is as he is trying to mount the same thing at line 10
[11:37] <|lostbyte|> arso, then it worked.
[11:37] <arso> HDD6
[11:37] <arso> |lostbyte|:  i want it to mount on reboot, does that work now?
[11:37] <uniq> gatekeeper: good point.
[11:38] <arso> uniq:  hdd6
[11:38] <uniq> arso: cat /proc/partitions
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> arso, yes has too.. also remove your last line.. as its repeated..
[11:38] <uniq> arso: please paste the output to the paste-site.
[11:38] <arso> last line where?
[11:38] <clinckarts> Hi, reboot successfully
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> arso, change none to /mnt/hdd6
[11:38] <uniq> ehm..
[11:38] <arso> uniq:  i am pasting now
[11:38] <|lostbyte|> arso, this one --------> /dev/hdd6 /mnt/hdd6 auto defaults,noauto,users 0 0
[11:38] <clinckarts> Another question... How to configure hostname?
[11:39] <uniq> |lostbyte|: changing none to /mnt/hdd6 ? that would break swap.
[11:39] <uniq> arso: also, paste teh output of 'cat /proc/swaps'
[11:39] <gatekeeper> clinckarts: a permanent change to hostname?
[11:39] <arso> uniq:  that IS the one i am pasting
[11:39] <arso> ohhh sory
[11:39] <arso> sure will do
[11:40] <|lostbyte|> uniq, yeah ! dame, my browser was resized..
[11:41] <arso> uniq:  cat/ proc/swaps gets no result, u sure about the command?
[11:41] <arso> that last s?
[11:41] <Tommy2k4> how to force remove a directory using rm
[11:41] <|lostbyte|> arso, its -------->  cat /proc/swaps
[11:42] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, -f
[11:42] <clinckarts> gatekeeper: yes
[11:42] <uniq> arso: i'm sure about the command. It tells me you have no swap partitions available.
[11:42] <arso> oh
[11:42] <arso> no result
[11:42] <arso> from "cat /proc/swaps"
[11:42] <uniq> arso: you can also paste the output of 'fdisk -l'
[11:42] <Tommy2k4> rm: cannot remove `pyshaper-0.1.3': Is a directory
[11:42] <|lostbyte|> arso, sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[11:42] <arso> omg, i cant believe i didnt notice the swap 'dissapeared' from storage and devices
[11:42] <yanis> how can I change the splash screen?
[11:43] <|lostbyte|> yanis, kcontrol
[11:43] <Cornellius> yanis: Where you enter the username ?
[11:43] <Cornellius> yanis: Yes, kcontrol
[11:43] <arso> sudo fdisk -l | grep swap
[11:43] <arso> /dev/hdd5            1022        1181     1285168+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:43] <arso> i DO have a swap then/>
[11:44] <|lostbyte|> arso, yup !
[11:44] <yanis> hah
[11:44] <jerry> Can someone help me?
[11:44] <|lostbyte|> and its on hdd5 so your fstab is wronge.
[11:44] <yanis> why isn't visible in the system settings?
[11:44] <|lostbyte|> go and rename it to hdd5
[11:44] <arso> guys, can u please fix my fstab, coz it seems all messed up :-(
[11:45] <jerry> Personal Invitation -Krfb Host: 72.132.240.241:0 Password: aVX9-9AX Expiration time: 06/30/2006 3:44:10
[11:45] <murtun> Hey all
[11:45] <murtun> How can i set the sound card for ALSA?
[11:46] <|lostbyte|> arso, 1 - change hdd6 to hdd5
[11:46] <arso> it currently is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16878
[11:46] <yanis> and how can I change the kdm theme?
[11:46] <arso> can u please check for other mistakes?
[11:46] <arso> uniq:  can u please check if there are any other mistakes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16878 :D
[11:46] <uniq> arso: it's hard for us to know, please change the first hdd6 to hdd5 and check if everything works.
[11:46] <arso> |lostbyte|:  but hdd6 is a different partition, i also need that one to auto boot?
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> arso, do.. swapon /dev/hdd5
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> arso, do.. sudo swapon /dev/hdd5
[11:47] <uniq> have to go eat, girlfriend cooked and all. later.
[11:47] <arso> bye
[11:47] <jerry> sorry :(
[11:47] <DaSkreech> Me too
[11:47] <|lostbyte|> arso, does'nt matter.. linux knows the swap is on it..
[11:47] <arso> omg
[11:47] <arso> but then wat about hdd6, i need that one to auto mount/boot
[11:47] <arso> how are we gonna do that
[11:48] <|lostbyte|> arso, it will.. as its on the last line..
[11:48] <gatekeeper> clinckarts: I think if edit /etc/hosts you will see your old computer name you modify it to the new name and reboot, or you could try system setting -> Network settings press the admin button then change the name, whatever you do be very carefull!
[11:48] <arso> |lostbyte|:  /dev/hdd5 /mnt/hdd6 auto defaults,noauto,users 0 0 from this line, should i change the second hdd6 too, or just the first
[11:49] <clinckarts> gatekeeper: Tks. Will try later... I go to station now. See U. Tks a lot for help
[11:50] <arso> |lostbyte|:  the last line is hdB6 thats a different one , the one that doesnt boot is hdD6,
[11:50] <gatekeeper> clinckarts: you are welcome good luck :-)
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> arso, no.. change hdd6 to hdd5
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> nothing else..
[11:51] <arso> ok
[11:51] <arso> dont taht
[11:51] <arso> and saved
[11:51] <|lostbyte|> arso, and paste your fstab to see ..
[11:51] <arso> ok
[11:51] <gupta> is it possible to append random commads to a file from the terminal?
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> gupta, yeah use ">>"
[11:52] <gupta> like aptitude install something appends to a file
[11:52] <gupta> will >> append the command or the output of it>
[11:52] <gupta> ?
[11:52] <|lostbyte|> gupta, eg:- cat fileend.txt >> file2.txt
[11:52] <crimsun> output
[11:53] <crimsun> >> takes stdout and appends
[11:53] <gupta> i want the command to be entered and get appended
[11:53] <arso> |lostbyte|:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16881         btw i was wondering, wat does the "noauto" mean?
[11:53] <gupta> crimsun: So I want something for stdin
[11:53] <crimsun> meaning you want the command to be appended, or meaning you want the command and its output to be appended?
[11:53] <gupta> ?
[11:53] <gupta> the command only
[11:53] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> !mp3
[11:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:54] <|lostbyte|> gupta, The filesystem will NOT be automatically mounted at startup,
[11:54] <crimsun> gupta: then just echo the command
[11:54] <|lostbyte|> gupta, you dont need that..
[11:54] <gupta> crimsun: thanks!
[11:54] <crimsun> what's the issue?
[11:55] <arso> |lostbyte|:    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16881         btw i was wondering, wat does the "noauto" mean?
[11:55] <apokryphos> arso: it won't be auto-mounted
[11:55] <apokryphos> (on bootup)
[11:55] <|lostbyte|> arso, i just said it.. lolz missed <tab> your name..
[11:55] <|lostbyte|> up ^
[11:55] <murtun> How do i set  up which card ALSA uses
[11:56] <arso> |lostbyte|:  so then wont it be mounted by simply making it "auto" ?
[11:56] <|lostbyte|> arso, yes..
[11:56] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> what is the lame library?  for mp3 ,  like liblame-dev or lame-dev or something like that?
[11:56] <arso> |lostbyte|:  so why arent we doing that
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> arso, i told you to remove it..
[11:57] <arso> |lostbyte|:  oh ok, remove it completely, or making it "auto"
[11:57] <|lostbyte|> arso, also you didt rename hdd6 to hdd5 as i said..
[11:57] <arso> i did
[11:57] <arso> its the middle one
[11:58] <|lostbyte|> arso, remove it .. as defaults already calls it.
[11:58] <|lostbyte|> yes !
[11:58] <arso> ok, so iam set now?
[11:58] <|lostbyte|> arso, yup ! yeah..
[11:59] <Tommy2k4> how to force remove a directory using rm?
[11:59] <Tommy2k4> rm: cannot remove `pyshaper-0.1.3': Is a directory
[11:59] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, rm -rf dir/
[11:59] <arso> |lostbyte|:  yay!  thnx for ur help and all, here this is my final current fstab http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16883 , could u please make sure its all good? :D
[12:00] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: rm -rf but use it with extreme caution!
[12:00] <Tommy2k4> why caution?
[12:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> what is the lame library?  for mp3 ,  like liblame-dev or lame-dev or something like that?
[12:00] <Tommy2k4> it worked fine :)
[12:01] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, as -f is for force and it wont ask you if you really want to remove it.
[12:01] <icheyne> I have a console based program I want to run at startup - how do i set this up?
[12:01] <icheyne> (I believe it's called a daemon)
[12:01] <Tommy2k4> i was sudo'ing it anyway cos it wouldnt delete
[12:02] <Hawkwind> Tommy2k4: rm -rf forces the removal without asking any questions.  If you typed the wrong directory you could delete your entire root partition
[12:02] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, what does the program do ?
[12:02] <gatekeeper> Tommy2k4: where there any files in the folder?
[12:02] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: mp3 server :o)
[12:02] <Tommy2k4> no there was an empty subdir that wouldnt delete for some reason
[12:03] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: gnump3d
[12:03] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, huh ! would be best called from /etc/rc.local just call it from there ( last line )
[12:03] <icheyne> ok so I just add it into that config file?
[12:03] <icheyne> cool
[12:04] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: I'll try now
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, yeah ! the whole path to the binary..
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, its a project file..
[12:04] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, hold on.. i never used that program..
[12:05] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, it may have a script already.. did you check its config file..
[12:05] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: I'll have a look now
[12:05] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: I added it to rc.local anyway
[12:06] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, usually servers / demons are called from /etc/init.d/
[12:06] <eggo> hey can someone point me to a step by step for compiling a kernel?  i keep getting errors and all i have done is download the source for my current kernel and use my existing config .... but still get errors :(
[12:06] <arso> |lostbyte|:  i'll brb to restart, see if all are mounted
[12:06] <|lostbyte|> ok :)
[12:07] <arso> |lostbyte|:  thnx  a lot :)
[12:07] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: so which do I use init.d or rc.local?
[12:07] <arso> |lostbyte|:  btw wat destribution u use
[12:07] <|lostbyte|> arso, thank me after it works..
[12:07] <andrew_> is it possible to setup wine in kubuntu so that the installed programs are available to all users, the way installing FOSS games are avail to everyone?