[03:37] <BenC> crimsun: ping
[03:37] <crimsun> BenC: pong
[03:38] <BenC> crimsun: With linux-meta uploaded now, we need to talk about how to best handle alsa
[03:38] <crimsun> BenC: ok.
[03:38] <BenC> I don't want to start getting a bunch of regression bug reports for stuff that was fixed in dapper, but itsn't in edgy any more
[03:38] <BenC> is there a good alsa driver release I can patch into 2.6.17?
[03:38] <BenC> or maybe a git tree I can pull from?
[03:39] <BenC> one thing I notice is that there is now a snd_aoa which takes over a lot of stuff on powerpc, and I want it badly :)
[03:39] <crimsun> BenC: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa-current.git;a=summary
[03:40] <crimsun> BenC: -current tracks -mm I believe
[03:40] <BenC> so it's against 2.6.17 still?
[03:40] <zul> would people bitch if there was a 686 only for xen for x86?
[03:40] <crimsun> BenC: believe so.
[03:40] <BenC> zul: doubt it
[03:40] <crimsun> BenC: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git;a=summary   is for Linus's
[03:40] <zul> sweet..
[03:41] <BenC> zul: anyone running a virtual host/client system like that needs at least a 686 cpu, IMO
[03:41] <BenC> I couldn't imagine running it on a 486
[03:41] <zul> cool...because CONFIG_M386 is giving me grief
[03:41] <crimsun> BenC: I was going over the patches we have in Dapper's tree, and the only really outstanding thing is the Jack Sense blacklist (sound/pci/ac97/ac97_patch.c)
[03:42] <crimsun> BenC: that's pretty much the only thing that needs to be forwarded from Dapper->Edgy
[03:42] <BenC> crimsun: can you find the sha commit I need to cherry-pick?
[03:42] <crimsun> BenC: I'll work on that tonight and send you a list
[03:43] <BenC> next kernel is forcing an ABI bump already, so I might as well get alsa in there ASAP
[03:43] <BenC> crimsun: great, thanks
[03:43] <BenC> going to attempt a pull from -current
[03:44] <crimsun> BenC: if you get conflicts due to xxx_t types (forwarded from Dapper's tree), take Jaroslav's tree as authoritative
[03:44] <BenC> I'm already sitting at stock 2.6.17 code in sound/* anyway
[03:45] <BenC> except for ppc toonie
[03:45] <crimsun> ok
[03:45] <BenC> only 278 objects pulled, that's a good sign I guess
[03:45] <crimsun> -current git lags http://hg-mirror.alsa-project.org/alsa-kernel by a day or so, sometimes longer
[03:46] <BenC> then again, I fetched linus' tree earlier, so I have all the objects already
[03:46] <zul> BenC: alot of the security updates doesnt apply to hoary..
[03:46] <BenC> zul: don't apply, or aren't relevant?
[03:46] <zul> both...there is no posix-cpu-timers.c in hoary ;)
[03:46] <crimsun> all the official work seems to be done in hg and pushed to git via tailor
[03:46] <BenC> I read "don't apply" as maybe meaning the patch just chokes :)
[03:47] <BenC> crimsun: good enough
[03:47] <BenC> zul: ok, note that when you reply to pitti
[03:48] <zul> BenC: i have xen building i just need to figure out how to package it ;)
[03:49] <BenC> ripping the linux-source-2.6.17 build system would be a good start :)
[03:50] <BenC> at least it would be familiar to anyone messing with both
[03:50] <zul> getting there
[03:50] <zul> it unpacks it, builds it...??? profilt 
[03:50] <BenC> crimsun: badness...alsa git is pulling in all sorts of junk
[03:51] <crimsun> BenC: -current?
[03:51] <BenC> yeah
[03:51] <crimsun> BenC: ok, what about http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/perex/alsa.git ?
[03:51] <BenC> I'll try that next
[03:51] <crimsun> ok.
[04:01] <BenC> wondering if I could just grab sound/* include/sound/* from 2.6.18
[04:01] <BenC> or from alsa.git
[04:02] <BenC> wish I knew the command that would show me the commits between alsa.git and linux-2.6.git
[04:16] <BenC> revlist doesn't look big enough...did alsa merge in .18?
[04:17] <crimsun> I don't believe so
[04:17] <crimsun> last I know of was in .17
[04:19] <BenC> there's only 20 commits in the rev-list from alsa.git to linux-2.6
[04:21] <crimsun> probably pushed from akpm, then
[04:22] <crimsun> http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=blob;h=4f0e65808cf1a29e39757244ce15509b756e39b0;hb=cc1930c5813356d664c160a8fb1db9284580cae7;f=include/sound/version.h  looks fairly current
[04:23] <BenC> I know that some of the stuff I pulled from dapper actually applied to the current tree, but I just kept reverting those portions
[04:25] <BenC> let me do a diff and see exaclty how much is different
[04:26] <BenC>  255 files changed, 22575 insertions(+), 5237 deletions(-)
[04:26] <BenC> that's the diffstat on sound/* between our tree and alsa-current
[04:27] <crimsun> can't pull atm, sorry
[04:31] <BenC> using alsa is not much different
[04:32] <BenC> alsa is strictly sound/* and include/sound/* isn't it?
[04:32] <crimsun> yep
[04:36] <BenC> A direct copy of alsa-current seems to be build just fine, for powerpc at least
[04:36] <BenC> I may do this for the next upload
[04:36] <crimsun> I see no prob w/ that
[04:36] <BenC> snd_aoa may be the best thing to happen to linux-ppc audio since it was introduced
[04:36] <crimsun> now that we're not juggling mutex/xxx_t typedefs, it should be much easier.
[04:37] <crimsun> yep
[04:37] <BenC> yeah, definitely
[04:37] <BenC> crap, one driver is looking for a media/v4l2-dev.h include
[04:41] <BenC> hmm, removing the include lets it build...hope that's ok :)
[04:58] <johanbr> join #suspend2
[05:59] <BenC> crimsun: that sync with sound/* include/sound/* seems to have gone pretty well
[06:00] <BenC> doing a 6-arch build now to see if there's any other quirks
[06:00] <crimsun> BenC: excellent
[06:01] <BenC> the only thing I have in sound now that isn't stock is bt-sco
[06:01] <BenC> wish alsa would pick that up at some point
[06:01] <crimsun> I'll poke takashi about it
[10:18] <sivang> morning
[11:59] <nigel_c> Hmm.
[01:18] <sivang> hi all
[01:19] <sivang> I can't boot edgy's kenrel on my laptop,
[01:19] <sivang> I get:
[01:19] <sivang> Bad EIP Value
[01:19] <sivang> EIP:[<0000000>] 
[01:20] <sivang> _stext+0x3feffd68/0x8
[01:20] <sivang> SS:ESP 0068:dfd81f08
[01:20] <sivang> Any idea what could have went wrong?
[02:28] <zul> hey
[04:17] <BenC> sivang: which version, -3?
[04:33] <mjg59> sivang: The rest of the dump is likely to be necessary
[04:37] <sivang> BenC: let me check
[04:53] <sivang> BenC: linux-image-2.6.17-3-686 , so yes
[04:54] <BenC> sivang: can you take a photo of the screen with the crash on it?
[05:01] <sivang> BenC: I'll do that, but this is the exact string I saw when it crashed
[06:47] <mdz_> BenC: I just got a hard freeze on my desktop running 2.6.17-3.4
[06:47] <mdz_> it was in X, so I don't think I can do much useful with it before I reset, but thought I'd ask
[06:49] <mdz_> it doesn't even respond to sysrq
[06:49] <mdz_> no lights on the keyboard
[06:50] <mdz_> wasn't doing anything particularly interesting at the time; had just closed gnucash and switched desktops over to xchat
[06:50] <mdz_> same box ran solid since Dapper on the Dapper kernel
[06:51] <mdz_> and for a short time on 2.6.17-1
[06:52] <mdz_> I'm leaving town this afternoon, so I'm reverting to 2.6.15-23-k7 to be safe
[08:50] <BenC> mdz: Sorry, was up in the barn
[08:51] <BenC> mdz: hopefully when I get kdump uploaded, you can reproduce it
[08:51] <BenC> we can grab the freeze with that