[12:10] hmm, I need to figure out a way to make an RSS feed tracking Debian uploads of a given set of packages [12:10] same thing for Ubuntu as well [12:15] wtf with vim 7? === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-26-28.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c211-28-181-26.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] ok, now I am on ubuntu-universe-contributors, but I still need to recover my password from revu... anyone like to help me with this? [12:37] might have to ask a revu admin if one is around [12:38] fbond: have you uploaded a package yet? [12:41] yes, I've uploaded several [12:41] is it correct that there is revu breakage? [12:41] I'd like to respond to a comment on a package... [12:42] fbond: ok, so then put in your email and hit "Login" [12:42] I apologize, I'll keep my password safe from now on, but I had previously just counted on easy recovery [12:42] done that [12:42] fbond: and then did you click on "recover" [12:42] yes [12:43] and what did you get? [12:43] I reported this problem here the day before yesterday or something [12:43] I get either no encrypted string, or an IOError due to broken pipe [12:43] hmm [12:43] it varies between the two [12:43] yes, it is broken [12:43] as far as I can tell, anyway... [12:43] and did you email the admins? [12:44] no, I suppose that would be a good next step [12:44] I spoke with someone here [12:44] I understood it to be a known problem [12:45] fbond: whether it is know or not it will likely take an admin to fix it :-) [12:46] yes, I thought I had been speaking with siretart, who is an admin, yes? [12:46] yes, he's the guy [12:46] so as long as he know about it then it is in good hands [12:47] okay I will send him an email, anyway. don't recall for sure if I had gotten a positive resonse from him that a fix was in progress. [12:47] in any case, it'd be handy to just get the encrypted password, one way or another. [12:48] yeah [12:51] nice, and I have 2 accounts, only 1 of which is a reviewer :-) [12:51] night motus [12:51] cya sivang [12:51] laters LaserJock === freeflying-g4__ [n=freeflyi@221.221.149.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Sergi0 [n=serge@ip227-28-166-62.adsl.versatel.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:38] g'night everybody === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:39] Heya gang [01:42] hey bd [01:43] hello [01:43] good morning ajmitch [01:43] good morning jsgotangco, how are you? [01:43] Hi jsgotangco, ajmitch [01:44] im good just arrived too early at work though [01:44] heh [01:45] all the more reason to slack off and doing what you want to do but not suppose to [01:49] heh exactly! === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-123-69.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:55] heh this is the first time i heard of a package named beautifulsoup [01:59] Hey MOTUs === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying|away [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@71.57.11.218] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu is now known as nexu|ET [03:16] How does a non-MOTu go about filing a sync request? [03:17] I think the same was as a MOTU, but I'm not sure if that makes sense [03:19] imbrandon: ping? === imbrandon_ [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:22] Wow LaserJock, that is some power ;-) [03:23] hehe [03:23] imbrandon_: you actually here? :-) [03:24] kinda ;) [03:24] sup ? === nexu|ET is now known as nexu [03:32] hi all [03:32] bddebian: how's the x11proto thing? =) [03:33] hi zakame [03:33] I'll be bound to manila in a few moments [03:33] heya ajmitch === DarkMageZ [n=DarkMage@59.167.32.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:43] zakame: Hi. Still b0rked :-( === bddebian grovels at crimsun's feet [03:46] ooo, what application is b0rked? === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:49] DarkMageZ: No, my pbuilder environment for some reason [03:49] oh === DarkMageZ should probley set one of those up for building proper dosbox packages [03:51] bddebian: did you try building a new one from scratch? [03:51] No not yet [03:52] I've been trying to build your damn scilab-4 for 3 days now :-) [03:54] argh...give up [03:54] I can always count on you for support zul [03:57] well, I gave up after ~ 15 min. [03:58] It shouldn't be that difficult really [03:58] But the 3.0 packaging is wrong imo and I don't know cdbs for shit :-( [03:59] hmm, do you keep a tee of the pbuildlogs? [03:59] zakame: For my broken pbuilder or for scilab? [03:59] the broken pbuilder building scilab [04:00] My broken pbuilder isn't my scilab problem :-) [04:00] zakame: what will you be doing here? [04:01] jsgotangco: school, bookhunting, and laptop [04:01] wow that SoC money sure came in handy :P [04:01] hehe [04:01] well I'm not buying just yet, just looking around [04:01] I might cosider that acer ferrari though :P [04:02] yeah i saw the sale [04:02] its pretty good deal but i hate Acer [04:02] how come? [04:03] their designers don't know anything about form factor [04:03] zakame: Here is pbuilder problem: http://pastebin.us/810 [04:03] ah [04:04] But if I do a pbuilder login apt-get update and apt-get install x11proto-gl-dev, I get it ?? [04:04] the acer ferrari being sold cheaply is almost 2 years old and already discontinued, the ones they sell now use carbon fiber [04:05] what's scilab's B-D line? [04:06] in debian/control? [04:06] jsgotangco: ah [04:06] zakame: That's not from scilab, that is from Hobbsee's ksudoku [04:07] bddebian: what's the B-D line anyhow? [04:08] Hmm, this is interesting [04:08] bdefreese@bdubuntu1:~/edgy/ksudoku$ dpkg-source -x ksudoku_0.3-4ubuntu1.dsc [04:08] dpkg-source: error: syntax error in source control file ./ksudoku_0.3-4ubuntu1.dsc at line 22: found start of PGP body but no signature [04:08] argh [04:09] (I'm pretty sure I asked you about the source package, the dsc specifically, some hours ago) [04:09] crimsun: I thought we were talking about scilab? [04:10] bddebian: that was later === bddebian bows head in shame [04:11] Well now at least you all know how stupid I really am so you can stop with the God cracks :-) [04:11] 15:34 < bddebian> crimsun: If I do an apt-get install from pbuilder login, it [04:11] works fine [04:11] 15:35 < crimsun> ...but? [04:11] 15:35 < bddebian> pbuilder build doesn't get it [04:11] 15:36 < crimsun> got the source package posted? [04:11] 15:36 < crimsun> dsc would be fine for starters [04:12] (to be fair, I should have looked at the dsc myself, but I was reading an abstract at that time) [04:14] It's interesting that the build process actually started.. [04:14] it'll do that. [04:14] cf. someone's problem with pbuilder foo_source.changes === Marce [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] crimsun: Have any patience left for me for scilab? :-( [04:17] bddebian: got a few dozen things going on atm, try in 1 hr. [04:17] OK thx [04:18] (and don't block on me, either. This channel's full of helpfuls.) === nictuku [n=yves@ubuntu/member/nictuku] has joined #ubuntu-motu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #ubuntu-motu === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@203.89.166.123] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty_away [n=bmonty@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fbond [n=fab@pool-72-92-139-91.burl.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=ngazer@mail.aktiv-assekuranz.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tritium [n=tritium@ubuntu/member/tritium] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zakame@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jmg [n=cartel@shinobi.thoughtcrime.org.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb [n=chris@209.120.232.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu === whiprush [i=32509192@64.62.190.212] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chillywilly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-126-16.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [i=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucasvo [n=lucasvo@wservices.ch] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] No one else will put up with me :-) === azeem [n=mbanck@host109.natpool.mwn.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:25] Hey all. If a package hasn't had anything in it related to python before, and one wants to add some files that need to be placed in the python site-packages dir, is there a debhelper command or a variable that one can use to copy the files into the right python/site-packages directory? [04:26] man dh_python ? [04:27] No I don't think so. Thats only for working out dependancies. [04:29] Or should I just assume a particular python version? [04:29] we use python-support now. [04:29] python-/site-packages is the older way [04:30] now-> Edgy [04:30] does python-support put them in the right place? === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] Hey Hobbsee. [04:31] Ah, it has a debhelper hook. [04:31] hi TheMuso [04:31] Hi Hobbsee [04:31] hi bddebian :) [04:31] Hobbsee: Did your ksudoku get uploaded? [04:32] bddebian: no idea [04:33] bddebian: it's not on edgy changes yet [04:33] bddebian: i didnt ask anyone else to puload it [04:34] crimsun: Thanks. [04:34] TheMuso: np [04:34] Hobbsee: do you feel it's ready? [04:35] I can it for tomorrow morning [04:35] crimsun: um, i think so === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] crimsun: that admin/cvs message is still there, even though the directory gets moved in the clean [04:35] Hobbsee: that's fine, it really should be stripped from the original tarball [04:36] dpkg-source will ignore deletions [04:36] Hobbsee: Tsk, tsk, CVS dirs :-) [04:36] yeah [04:36] bddebian: :P [04:36] The rest of the Lintian stuff is crap :-) [04:36] bddebian: i didnt do it! it's debian's fault! [04:36] yeah hehe [04:37] crimsun: if you're in an uploading mood, i've got various other packages listed on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates as done - for syncs or merges === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:38] Hobbsee: you can file sync requests === elkbuntu [n=melissa@203-206-255-153.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:39] the template I've been following is to file a bug on the source package entitled "[Edgy MoM] Please sync source_package version-revision from Debian Sid", then in the bug report I link to MoM's REPORT and say "Ok to override Ubuntu changes" [04:39] then I subscribe ubuntu-archive [04:40] crimsun: right, yep === Marce_ [i=marce@meinungsverstaerker.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubug2 [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Marce_ is now known as Marce [04:45] chillywilly: /etc/acpi.d/resume.d/NNfoobar === bddebian tries a pbuild on ksudoku again [04:46] /etc/acpi/resume.d/ , but yeah === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian debates whether or not to upload ksudoku... [04:54] bddebian: did it work this time? [04:54] Yeah, I'm an idiot [04:54] I ripped out the CVS dir though.. ;-) [04:55] bddebian: heh, how? [04:55] find ./ -name CVS |xargs rm -rf [04:56] Then took out the rm .admin/CVS from rules :-) [04:56] what, from the .orig.tar.tz? === pschulz01_ [n=paul@eth6067.sa.adsl.internode.on.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:56] No, just from the extracted source [04:57] oh ok === Birthday_kgoetz [n=kgoetz@ppp100-144.static.internode.on.net] has left #ubuntu-motu ["ttfn"] [05:04] Hobbsee: Uploaded [05:06] bddebian: yay! thanks! [05:09] Hobbsee: Well it's good to be of SOME use ;-) [05:11] bddebian: of course you're of use! === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:15] bleh. it froze. 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[09:29] Hmm. [09:29] Lag. [09:29] heh, fun === lukketto [n=lukketto@host247-6.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host247-6.pool877.interbusiness.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@217-133-96-194.b2b.tiscali.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tiagoboldt [n=tiagobol@87-196-26-28.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:30] sivang: pong [10:31] shawarma: hi, have you managed to eventually upload libgfshare ? [10:32] Sure. 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[02:32] Morning [02:32] heh [02:32] hi === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu === beezly [n=andy@terrapin.shef.ac.uk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rajasun [n=maximusp@bb220-255-207-117.singnet.com.sg] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee_ [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:11] bug 51241 [03:11] Malone bug 51241 in gaphor "Gaphor fails to run" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51241 === Yagisan waves. Anyone here use cmake ? === chipmonk010 [n=chris@c-69-142-27-27.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:23] hi all [03:23] hi zakame [03:23] hi zakame [03:24] heya Hobbsee zul, here in Manila now [03:24] heh, I forgot to /away earlier === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bluekuja [n=andrea@ubuntu/member/bluekuja] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chesty [n=chesty@unconcerned.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-7-90.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:59] Heya gang [03:59] hi bddebian [03:59] hey [04:00] Hi raphink and Kamping_Kaiser :-) [04:00] :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:00] hi Kamping_Kaiser [04:01] hey mate === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:01] do you guys have an idea if there's a tool to remove all the symbolic links pointing to a file? [04:01] rm? [04:02] rm only removes the file [04:02] itself [04:02] but it won't remove the symbolic links pointing to it [04:02] it'll just leave them broken [04:02] Isn't there a remove for ln ? [04:02] I know the symlinks system is only one way [04:02] hmmm [04:03] doesn't seem so [04:07] good evening [04:07] hi jsgotangco [04:07] hello raphink how are you? [04:07] pretty good [04:08] although I'm stuck on something [04:08] but I'll find a way ;) === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@kiwi.mediascape.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2556 [04:26] oops === Hobbsee warns all people that merges are MUCH easier with the MoM. [04:27] yeah i know i already did one ;) === Hobbsee has just leanred. === kelmo_lap [n=kel@madwifi/support/kelmo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === FunnyLookinHat [n=funnyloo@167.246.8.60] has joined #ubuntu-motu === shawarma_ [i=foobar@82.103.143.190] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] I still do my merges manually [04:35] I've tried with the MoM in Dapper [04:35] and somehow I didn't find it easier [04:36] but I guess it is if you take some time to understand how it works [04:36] true [04:37] how do I get a package from non-free into multiverse? Just put a sync request into launchpad? [04:38] raphink: you can't find the sym links pointing to a file without doing a full search of the harddisk [04:38] sladen: that's what I thought [04:38] and even fiind might not have an option for that I guess [04:38] sladen: and yes about the non-free [04:39] it seems to be the best way [04:39] if it builds on edgy [04:39] hey slomo :) [04:39] sladen: yo [04:39] hi sivang :) [04:39] hi sivang [04:39] sladen: did you see my PM I left on your detached irc window? === sivang hugs raphink , sladen [04:40] and sladen [04:40] err, slomo [04:40] sivang: nope :( [04:40] slomo: no, that was for sladen :) [04:40] slomo: so it's okay. [04:42] sivang: oh ok ;) sorry === raphink hugs sivang [04:43] howdy === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:44] hi ivoks [04:44] i'm having some troubles with one package [04:45] anyone familiar with dpatch? actully, this is patch issue [04:45] or isn't :) [04:45] well, here it is: [04:45] patch_opts="-g0 -f --no-backup-if-mismatch -F0 -U ${workdir:+-d ${workdir}}" [04:45] ivoks: what's the issue? [04:45] patch doesn't take -U argument [04:46] ivoks: hmm, I've never had to deal with dpatch special opts like this so far.. [04:46] sivang: do you have any idea what maintaner wanted to do with that -U? [04:46] sivang: me neither... [04:46] ivoks: let's see in depatch's manual === sivang pokes [04:47] uh [04:47] i get it [04:47] he wanted to add arguments to dpatch === shawarma [i=foobar@sirius.linux2go.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:48] ivoks: how did you find that out? [04:48] ivoks: which package is that btw? [04:48] but hplip [04:49] without but [04:49] :) [04:49] hm... but -U isn't is neither in patch nor dpatch [04:49] sivang: this is source from debian unstable === dredg [n=niall@80.169.137.162] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:50] ivoks: sorry, I've lost you :) [04:50] sivang: :) [04:50] i'll just remove -U and see what I get [04:52] ivoks: cool [04:52] i get compiled package... [04:52] hm... [04:52] i'll contact him to find out what's up with that === Spec[x] [n=dragonco@charon.devis.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-65-53.w83-199.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] Heya LaserJock [05:46] hi bddebian === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hawkwind [n=SoS@linuxfordummies/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-MOTU === paniq [n=braniq@port-212-202-51-166.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@ip-189.net-81-220-240.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/KampingKaiser/x-3453498] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lukketto [n=lukketto@host247-6.pool877.interbusiness.it] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:57] hi people === Yagisan waves hello [06:58] hey Yagisan === Yagisan cries. autotools hates me. cmake hates me. [07:02] Yagisan: cmake hates everyone :-) [07:02] Heya phanatic [07:02] heya bddebian === abelcheung [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.16] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:04] bddebian: I have what I think is a simple cmake file [07:04] bddebian: but it hates it [07:04] bddebian: running make gives me errors out the wazoo [07:04] :-) [07:06] siretart: ping? [07:07] siretart: ping [07:07] :) [07:07] bddebian: it's blatantly ignoring the include files, === kjcole [n=kjcole@ubuntu/member/kjcole] has joined #ubuntu-motu === schweeb [n=chris@209.120.232.20] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dolson [n=dana@d235-185-252.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sivang [n=sivan@ubuntu/member/sivang] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ryanakca_ [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:20] raphink: ping? [07:21] hi LaserJock [07:21] raphink: got a REVU problem [07:21] that is bad news [07:21] what is that? [07:22] bluekuja just uploaded an upgrade of gtorrent-viewer and it seems stuck in the incoming queue [07:22] ah right [07:22] I'll have a look === raphink is translating again [07:22] kbarcode [07:22] it's horrible [07:22] the guy who translated this into french (hopefuly he's not here) just can't speak english, nor french [07:23] raphink, the package was already inside, but I uploaded a new version [07:23] np bluekuja [07:24] it's fixed now, try it again === bddebian does the "summon crimsun dance" [07:24] raphink, I re-upload it? [07:24] yes bluekuja [07:24] oki perfect [07:25] done === ryanakca__ [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:35] bluekuja: please subscribe to the ubuntu-universe-contributors group on LP [07:35] having your GnuPG key in your LP account [07:35] then ping me [07:35] ok [07:43] bddebian: ubuntu-science is going to start gettting flooded by your bugs? ;-) [07:44] raphink, done [07:44] waiting approval [07:45] I'll go there blue [07:45] LaserJock: Of course :-) [07:45] which is your account bluekuja? === bddebian stops working on scilab4 [07:45] smart move [07:46] Acutally I have it [07:46] I just have some directory issues to work out [07:46] hop [07:46] let's approve [07:46] now let's wait soem time for the revu-key update [07:47] i'll tell you when it's done bluekuja [07:47] raphink: so key issues get stuck in incoming as opposed to rejected? [07:47] no they get stuck in rejected ;) [07:47] the changes file is put into rejected [07:47] ah [07:47] which blocks the system for this package [07:47] makes sense [07:48] raphink, my account is bluekuja [07:48] yes I figured bluekuja :) [07:48] great :) [07:48] i have to run [07:48] will you be on later? [07:49] anyway you can leave me a pm when done [07:49] done :) [07:49] hh [07:49] lol great [07:50] thanks a lot [07:50] see you later [07:50] LaserJock, will be you here later? [07:50] upload again it should work [07:51] ok uploading [07:51] bluekuja: yeah, when it's up I'll have a look [07:52] perfect [07:52] cya guys [07:52] it'll be on in 3 minutes [07:52] should be on :) [07:52] in 3 minutes that is :) [07:52] cya bluekuja [07:52] was there a revu day? [07:54] not yet I think [07:54] well, I'm not sure what happened, it looked to me like it was supposed to be yesterday === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.127.102.82] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:55] LaserJock: ah? [07:55] mayb [07:55] what does compat mean? [07:55] I'm too busy with work [07:56] Spec: that's the version of debhelper the package conforms too [07:56] ah, makes sense [07:56] so if you are using debhelper 5 then compat should have 5 [08:00] this translation is horrible [08:00] never saw that ever before [08:01] bddebian: do you know why sometimes debian/tmp is used and other times debian/? [08:01] my compat was 4, but debhelper is 5 [08:01] lintian doesn't check for that? [08:01] LaserJock: debian/tmp used to be the default afaik. It's older. The new method is debian/$package or whatever [08:02] yeah, but both work, right? [08:02] Yep [08:02] do you know if that is a dpkg-buildpackage thing? [08:02] In fact for a multi-binary package (like scilab ;-) ) sometimes it's easier to build everything in debian/tmp then split out the files with install or foo.install files [08:03] hmm, I would have thought debian/$package would have been better for multiple binaries [08:03] Well if they are "clean" it is [08:04] If there is the appropriate build targets in the makefiles for example [08:04] raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2444 - you say GPL license terms is incomplete, but I don't see why...any clues? :p [08:04] you should have a copyright year [08:05] like "Copyright (c) 2006 blah blah blah" [08:05] where? in the sourec? [08:05] by the way Spec if you look closely, I didn't say it, Lionel did :) [08:05] in debian/copyright [08:05] I just sponsored his comments [08:05] bah [08:05] but in the source too [08:05] i thought for sure you said it this time :p [08:05] hehe [08:05] in the source there is a date, 2005 [08:05] hehe [08:07] k [08:07] so, "Copyright (c) 2005 Roman Kagan " [08:07] in debian/copyright [08:07] yeah [08:08] at least that's what I think his comment was about [08:09] exactly [08:09] it's the most important part in debian/changelog almost [08:09] without this line, the copyright is void [08:09] in debian/changelgo? [08:10] sorry copyright [08:10] doing too many things at the same time ;) [08:10] oki, just re-uploaded :) [08:10] ok :) [08:10] i was worried i missed a copyright statement in changelog [08:10] but i was thinking to myself ... w-hat :p [08:10] lol [08:11] ok, backup tape-rotation time, whee! [08:11] the best part of fridays === ivoks [n=ivoks@ubuntu/member/ivoks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:21] i wish firefox would show a diff of a webpage when you refresh and the content changes [08:21] ok as some of you have noticed, there are key problems on REVU, due to the new system getting the keys from LP [08:21] yeah, that would handy [08:21] if you experience upload issues [08:21] please request addition to the ubuntu-universe-contributors gruop === raphink is gonna post on the motu ml [08:30] :) [08:40] how do we request addition to the ubuntu-universe-contributors group? [08:41] Spec: you go to the LP page and hit " [08:41] join [08:41] :) [08:41] easy, heh? [08:41] Spec: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-universe-contributors/+join [08:41] or that [08:41] if you know how to join group on orkut, friendster or whatever stuff of the kind [08:41] you're good enough to join groups on LP ;) [08:42] wow, that tested my limits of comprehension...it was close, but i managed to click the 'join' button. [08:42] and now it's gonna be hard to deal with the flow ;) [08:43] Spec: yeah :) [08:43] so i do have to resubmit to revu after i get accepted? [08:43] hop [08:44] raphink: is the revu-tool thingy automatically run on new uploads? [08:44] nope [08:44] we don't want it to run automatically for now [08:45] we want to be able to check stuff before building the packages [08:46] in case there are some hard links in the makefiles for ex [08:46] I see === damned [n=vpol@damned.vpol.org.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:49] weird, does this make sense in a clean: rule? [08:49] i [08:49] bah, that's not it [08:50] ii [08:50] freaking heck [08:50] ?? [08:50] breathe [08:51] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16850 [08:51] any cmake users here ? [08:52] that is very ugly imo LaserJock [08:53] seems odd for a clean rule at least [08:53] yes === MagnusR [n=magru@c83-250-59-127.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:57] raphink: this seems odd to me too http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16851 [08:57] why whould you need cross-compiling info in a source package? === fowlduck [n=fowlduck@198.150.12.32] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:58] bah === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] I have an issue while packaging pyflag, and while I have worked out more than a few of them, this one has me stumped: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16852 [08:59] this is during the pbuild build === allee [n=ach@dialin-212-144-128-087.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:59] anyone have any ideas? [09:00] Looks like you are missing a header file somewhere [09:00] bddebian, thats what i figured, or a python library. [09:00] not a clue how to find out which one though [09:00] or which one is missing [09:00] hehe [09:01] it's not very clear indeed [09:01] pyerrors.h === fowlduck bands his head on the keyboard === tiagoboldt_ [n=tiagobol@87-196-93-75.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:01] But you do have -I/usr/include/python2.4 [09:01] Hmm [09:01] hmm, pyerrors.h? [09:03] this is pretty fun, otherwise. fixing the issues and learning to package. :) [09:03] fowlduck: Check config.log or earlier in the build process and see if something is trying #include pyerrors.h and is failing [09:04] ok [09:04] quick question, where is the config.log? [09:05] Oh, is io.c including pyerrors? [09:05] It should be in the build dir if it is creating one [09:05] not seeing the config.log [09:05] it must be including it === fowlduck bands his head on the keyboard [09:07] bangs* [09:07] dude, that's going to hurt your keyboard ;-) [09:07] how many keyboards a week do you usually break fowlduck? [09:07] don't worry, i have replacements === _ion feels sorry for the poor keyboard. :-( [09:08] hehehe ;) [09:08] so, any ideas on how to fix this anyone? something I can look into, or try? [09:09] fowlduck: yes, do whatt bddebian suggested [09:09] bddebian, io.c has #include at the top [09:09] Ah [09:10] but there is no Python.h in the lib directory, hmmm [09:10] No, it's in /usr/include/python2.4 [09:11] so it should be putting that into the pbuild env [09:12] ?? [09:12] This line should be taking care of that for you: -I/usr/include/python2.4 [09:12] where should that line be? [09:12] That means include this dir when looking for header files [09:12] It's already there [09:13] Is the package build-depending on python2.4? [09:13] oh, ok [09:14] now that I'm in ubuntu-universe-contributors, should I re-upload to revu? [09:14] is it possible that some of the included header files in Python.h are missing? [09:16] hmm, i suppose i should wait until the .changes file leaves the incoming/rejected folder :-/ [09:17] what can i do if siretart has sponsored an upload to dapper-updates for me, but the package is still not in the archive? [09:18] bddebian, do you suppose that building it outside of a pbuilder environment would fix the issue? :) [09:18] fowlduck: Possible but unlikely. Most likely it's failing earlier in the process [09:18] Spec: what package is it? [09:18] fowlduck: Might not hurt to try it [09:18] raphink: cxacrufw [09:18] Spec: the .changes file will not leave the folder unless you ask me to ;) [09:19] ow you can upload again [09:19] s/ow/now/ [09:19] bddebian, so I should run over the output with a fine-tooth comb then, ok. Thanks for your help! :) [09:20] bddebian, oh, and can you give me a hint at what to be looking for at all? [09:20] pleeeeeeeeeeeeease? [09:20] fowlduck: Any errors :-) [09:20] yay, uploaded :) [09:20] bddebian, don't be too specific now! ;D [09:21] great [09:21] so, i get to promote ubuntu next week at a conference in san diego, we have some crazy large number of cds waiting for us already :) === Yagisan kicks cmake. Find my includes you evil #@!$@!!! [09:21] LaserJock, by the way, the packaging docs now are absolutely fantastic. Well-done, I know you had a hand in them. [09:22] oh, thanks [09:22] lots of people helped === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@ubuntu/member/gloubiboulga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:22] edgy's will be better [09:22] fowlduck: sudo dpkg-buildpackage -us -nc > build.log 2>&1 [09:22] well, cheers to them too. the rocked the house on that one [09:23] bddebian, ooh, i'll pop that right in there. [09:25] bddebian: could you take a look at something for me. This look right to you ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16854 [09:25] bddebian, doing the same for the pbuilder thing too, i have a doctor's appt to head off to, but I'm sure I'll pester you later. Thanks for everything again. :D [09:26] LaserJock: that's good to hear :) [09:26] to know that people use the packaging guide :) [09:26] yeah [09:27] I got a couple of those today [09:27] weird [09:27] converted 2 of my colleagues to kubuntu in a week :) [09:27] from? [09:27] Yagisan: Looks reasonable but I'm certainly no expert [09:27] one from debian [09:27] the other from windows [09:27] nice [09:27] although they're both long time linux engineers [09:27] debian's probably easier than from windows [09:27] Spec: well the windows guy have been a linux system admin for years, but had not tried the linux desktops for years, too ;) [09:28] Spec: so he had stayed with the idea of KDE 2 [09:28] OK, if anyone is bored, has time, wants et help, etc, please check out: http://www2.bddebian.com:8000/packages/ubuntu/scilab4/ [09:28] and GNOME ... not even sure it existed back then [09:28] understandable, i'm on windows right now but work on debian servers :-/ [09:28] Spec: :p [09:28] bad guy [09:28] not by choice, of course [09:28] If you install it, you have to modify /usr/lib/scilab-4.0/bin/scilab and fix the SCI path [09:28] vmware and putty are what i use most on windows, :p [09:28] Spec: my company will try to force us to use windows [09:28] we are about 50 engineers where I work [09:28] 95% using linux or bsd [09:29] hehe [09:29] on our desktops [09:29] and I hope the company won't manage to have any of us switch [09:29] it'd be easier if i used ubuntu as a desktop [09:29] terminals are better than putty [09:29] way better [09:29] and i could do actual work on my system instead of having to ssh everywhre else [09:29] bddebian: I thought so too but I end up with this when it runs :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16855 and I know those files are there [09:29] that's what I showed to my colleague today [09:30] but alas, policy is policy :p [09:30] how easier his life could be with a linux desktop [09:30] instead of 10 putty windows [09:30] and the occasional 'cmd' [09:30] haha [09:30] so bad looking next to putty :-/ [09:30] well I test the debian packages i do on my own machines [09:30] before building them on a remote one === lakin [n=lakin@206.174.196.147] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:30] if they have me on windows, I won't be able to do that anymore [09:30] i build my packages in vmware/ubuntu :-/ [09:30] argh [09:31] what a shame/waste of time&energy [09:31] but don't worry [09:31] not to talk about money [09:31] i putty to my vmware session [09:31] bluekuja: i've made some comments to gtorrent-viewer [09:31] lol* [09:31] stupid policy [09:31] can't copy/pate as well into vmware :p [09:31] :( [09:32] and dealing with the ssh keys is horrible with putty iirc [09:32] we should just try to build a network stuff that will be impossible to use on windows [09:32] so they have no choice but to keep us on linux [09:33] otherwise productivity will get down by 90% [09:33] I have some colleagues who almost never used windows === slomo [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:34] Yagisan: I assume you are running this from /tmp/3/ ? [09:35] bddebian: of course [09:35] Spec: ok let's try to build your package === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [09:35] Yagisan: Dunno man, sorry. It sure looks like it should work.. [09:36] Yagisan: In this file: /tmp/3/engine/portable/include/de_base.h what does the include for dd_def.h look like? [09:36] raphink: lintian is giving an error? [09:36] E: cxacrufw; DH_COMPAT is greater than the major version of debhelper depended on. [09:36] DH_COMPAT is set to a version greater than the major version of [09:36] debhelper that is depended on. This may cause things to break. [09:36] Spec: I don't know, it's just beginning to build [09:36] sorry, that was linda [09:37] Spec: what version of debhelper does it depend on? [09:37] hah [09:37] 4.0.0 :-/ [09:37] i should up it to 5.0.7 [09:37] hehe yes [09:37] and the standards verson is too old, too [09:38] what should the Standards-Version be? [09:38] check the verson of debian-policy in edgy [09:38] :) [09:38] bddebian: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16857 [09:38] the version of debian-policy in edgy....moo? [09:39] hmm, i don't think my pbuilder environment is even edgy [09:39] heh [09:39] Spec: you're building packages for edgy now [09:39] so you should test them in edgy [09:39] either in a pbuilder, a chroot, or an installed environment [09:39] preferably a pbuilder [09:39] Yagisan: No, I mean de_base.h. How does it include dd_def.h? [09:39] :o), i just switched it to edgy, it had been dapper [09:40] the package, that is [09:40] ok [09:40] yes [09:40] and the dependencies have to be, too [09:40] how do i find debian-policy in a pbuilder environment? [09:40] so you have to use edgy's dehelper version [09:40] Spec: you don't [09:40] oh, good. [09:40] but you can check packages.ubuntu.com if you don't have a machine on edgy or a chroot [09:41] or you can use motutools imo [09:41] although I never used them [09:41] in pbuilderrc i just change DISTRIBUTION=edgy and update? [09:41] bddebian: oops. sorry. This one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16858 [09:41] no it's not enough Spec [09:41] and not even necessary [09:41] you have to update your apt.conf/sources.list [09:41] and run update --override-conf [09:41] to force pbuilder reading it's conf again [09:42] s/it's/its/ [09:42] Yagisan: And both of those files are here: /tmp/3/engine/portable/include ? [09:43] "Upgrading for distribution edgy"... :) [09:43] but this doesn't change how dpkg-buildpackage does it's thing, do I have to do anything for that to be edgy-compliant? [09:43] Spec: check that is downloads files for edgy an dnot dapper [09:43] Spec: dpkg-buildpackage? [09:43] you don't build using that [09:44] I mean if you use a pbuilder [09:44] you just debuild -S -sa [09:44] then you pbuilder the dsc [09:44] i use dpkg-buildpackage -sa -S -rfakeroot -kMYKEY [09:44] and pbuilder to actually build it [09:44] hmm ok [09:44] yeap, it's downloading files for edgy [09:44] if you prefer :) [09:45] well, either way, that's fine if i'm using the dpkg-buildpackage on dapper? [09:45] Spec: as long as you build the deb in edgy, yes [09:45] imo [09:46] http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/cxacrufw-0606301515/lintian [09:46] why does that say unknown target distrobution edgy? [09:46] that's because it checks from breezy [09:46] (it's not even dapper) [09:46] raphink: but in all reality, my built deb doesn't matter because it gets built on revu, right? [09:46] so just ignore it === Yagisan [n=jamie@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:47] hmm. X crashed on me :( [09:47] bddebian: yes. All the includes needed are there [09:47] better than init crashing i suppose [09:47] Yagisan: was it painful? [09:47] Spec: well, I lost all my work anyway, ao it's a moot point [09:48] s/ao/so [09:48] raphink: yes. My head hurts now [09:49] Yagisan: Sorry man, I just don't know and I have to head home.. :-( === kr4z [n=kr4z@stjhnf0111w-142163099155.pppoe-dynamic.nl.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:49] bddebian: thanks anyway. I might as well go to bed and sleep on it. Unless a cmake guru is around. [09:51] right. 6am, I'm off to bed [09:51] Gnight Yagisan [09:51] I'm off fo a bit too, later folks === No1Viking [n=micke@h-83-140-104-3.ip.rixbredband.se] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:58] *slow*, raphink where do i find standards-version in packages.ubuntu.com? [09:58] Spec: search for the debian-policy packages for edgy [09:58] and check the version of this package [09:58] aaah [09:59] so Standards-Version should be 3.7.2.1 [09:59] or just 3.7.2 ? [10:00] 3.7.2 is fine [10:00] :) [10:01] yeah, i think the last .1 is just for typos or something [10:01] yes it's a small revision === damned [n=vpol@damned.vpol.org.ru] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Ex-Chat"] [10:02] ok, reuploaded with fixes [10:03] phanatic: ping? [10:03] LaserJock: pong [10:03] phanatic: .desktop files are generated durning the build process? [10:04] yeah, from the makefile [10:04] ah === kbrooks [n=kbrooks@unaffiliated/kbrooks] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:05] Hi. :-) [10:06] evening MOTU world [10:06] hello kbrooks [10:07] hey Gloubiboulga [10:07] hello phanatic [10:12] raphink: wanna rebuild it? :o) [10:12] sure let's see [10:14] hehe [10:14] This package appears to conform to a newer Standards-Version that has [10:14] been released. One of us is incorrect. [10:17] looks good to me... :o) [10:17] except i can't see the .changes file off revu - i don't have permission, that's odd [10:18] Spec: rebuilt [10:19] whee, [10:19] i'm going to call it a day :p [10:19] hehe [10:19] :) === jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:20] i kinda wonder what the security update for gpg involved [10:20] you can read aboiut it in the changelog i'm sure [10:26] crash and possibly arbitrary code execution patch, whee [10:26] okay, g'bye :) [10:31] re [10:31] wb Toadstool === nexu [n=nexu@a80-126-56-145.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:31] hey raphink [10:31] :) === fredix is now known as ralamax_live [10:33] er, I suppose the latest cdbs and debhelper versions will be synced soon, I'd like to use cdbs & python-central for mmpython :) [10:36] Toadstool: what does it enable you to do ? [10:37] it installs python modules in /usr/share/python-central/ and byte-compiles them for each python version on the system [10:37] you don't need python2.X-foo packages anymore [10:37] oh cool, [10:37] (short summary but that's the idea) [10:37] is doko going to make this part of the new toolchain ? [10:38] Toadstool: what is mmpython ? [10:38] i think since he's the Debian maintainer for pycentral [10:38] +so === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:39] sivang: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2520 [10:39] :) [10:39] Toadstool: but wouldn't that fill the system with lots of different version of python ? [10:39] oops, I meant [10:39] ? [10:40] fill it with many version of the same module per each python version? isn't the previous way of having one python on the system bad? [10:40] s/isn't/it/ [10:40] nope it creates symlinks to /usr/share/python-central/ files for each python version installed [10:41] not bad but inflexible === Sp4rKy [n=max@lns-bzn-39-82-255-31-216.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:41] Toadstool: but it has to make sure all modules are executable by the oldest available interpreter on the system? how does it keep ABI ? [10:42] it's the maintainer's job to make sure it works [10:42] there's a special debian/control field [10:42] XS-Python-Versions for source packages and XB-... for binary ones [10:43] I'm not an expert, see http://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/python-policy/ for more info :) [10:43] Toadstool: this is already supported in debhelper in debian? [10:43] yep [10:43] or , in dpkg for that matter [10:44] in dh_python [10:44] I see. nice to learn about new stuff we're going to get from upstream ;) [10:44] heh [10:44] raphink, thx for planfacile 553 error , works now :) [10:46] laters folks, be back in a bunch === robitaille_ [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:26] we need a volunteer to test a bug === lionelp raise his hand :) [11:26] thank you lionelp [11:26] :) [11:26] ok here it is [11:27] lionelp: Brave soul you are :P [11:27] mkdir patch === lionelp think he should have been quiet :) [11:27] chgrp floppy patch [11:27] chmod g+s patch [11:27] cd patch [11:27] apt-get source patch [11:27] ls -l [11:28] :) [11:28] what are the group ACLs on files and folders? [11:28] Heh interesting [11:28] Hawkwind: did you try it? [11:29] dpkg-source breaks the sticky bit rule when extracting the package [11:29] so the extracted folder doesnt get the right group ownership [11:29] ls -l [11:29] total 260 [11:29] drwxr-xr-x 5 lionel lionel 4096 2006-06-30 23:28 patch-2.5.9 [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 lionel floppy 49672 2004-10-25 18:38 patch_2.5.9-2.diff.gz [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 lionel floppy 564 2004-10-25 18:38 patch_2.5.9-2.dsc [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 lionel floppy 201926 2004-04-06 22:13 patch_2.5.9.orig.tar.gz [11:29] yes lionelp [11:29] drwxr-xr-x 5 hawkwind hawkwind 1856 2006-06-30 16:29 patch-2.5.9 [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 49672 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.diff.gz [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 564 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.dsc [11:29] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 201926 2004-04-06 15:13 patch_2.5.9.orig.tar.gz [11:29] and patch-2.5.9 shouldn't be lionel lionel [11:29] Heh [11:29] raphink: the sticky bit is for new created files [11:29] it should be lionel floppy instead [11:30] Yep. Did the same here too [11:30] that is the case for the diff, the ds, the orig.tar.gz [11:30] lionelp: no file should be created in this folder with another group than floppy [11:30] now LaserJock and I are wondering if it's patch's fault [11:30] so let's try that : [11:30] rm -rf patch-2.5.9 [11:31] tar xvzf patch_2.5.9.orig.tar.gz [11:31] ls -l [11:31] the extracted folder hsa the right ACL this time [11:31] now [11:31] drwxr-sr-x 4 hawkwind floppy 1784 2003-05-20 11:19 patch-2.5.9 [11:31] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 49672 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.diff.gz [11:31] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 564 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.dsc [11:31] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 201926 2004-04-06 15:13 patch_2.5.9.orig.tar.gz [11:31] gunzip patch_2.5.9-2.diff.gz [11:31] That time it's correct [11:31] patch -p 0 < patch_2.5.9-2.diff [11:31] ls -l [11:32] drwxr-sr-x 5 hawkwind floppy 1856 2006-06-30 16:32 patch-2.5.9 [11:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 364636 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.diff [11:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 564 2004-10-25 11:38 patch_2.5.9-2.dsc [11:32] -rw-r--r-- 1 hawkwind floppy 201926 2004-04-06 15:13 patch_2.5.9.orig.tar.gz [11:32] Hawkwind: how about ls -l patch-2.5.9 ? [11:32] don't give the details [11:33] just tell me if you get the right ACL _inside_ the dir [11:33] Yes, all hawkwind/floppy [11:33] ok [11:33] I get that too [11:33] but funnily enough, LaserJock doesn't [11:33] Hmmm strange [11:33] I'll report against dpkg-source for now [11:33] there's no reason why dpkg-source should override this rule === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:34] this is a security issue [11:34] No it shouldn't. Seems strange that it does as that could be a security issue [11:34] Heh :) [11:34] ;) === chiefofthejojos [n=bradpitc@86.59.25.121] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [11:34] found that while hacking on revu to try setting a sticky bit on folders ;) [11:35] Very interesting indeed [11:40] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/51468 [11:40] Malone bug 51468 in dpkg "dpkg-source doesn't respect group sticky bit" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] [11:41] can you complete/comment? [11:41] raphink: having a quick look in dpkg-source, it creates a temporary dir and lot of stuff. It is not just an extract [11:41] mhm [11:41] I guess [11:41] dpkg-source is a huge script [11:41] raphink: this bug should not pushed to Debian ? [11:41] I saw :-( [11:41] I guess [11:41] hard to read at this time :) === lionelp cheking on his Debian [11:42] hehe [11:42] it's hard to read perl at all times === raphink had to read object perl today [11:42] commented by a dev :s [11:43] same on Debian Sid [11:44] lionelp: does the bug exist there, too? [11:45] yes, it behaves the same (loose acl / sticky bit) === duro [n=duro@216.230.150.5] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:49] bugs.debian.org is stuck [11:49] yep [11:50] You can reach bugs on packages.qa.debian.org [11:50] that's because we're two people tryin gto access it at the same time [11:50] ;) [11:50] But you will learn that dpkg have 582 bugs opened :-( [11:50] ouch [11:50] can you find the one we need? [11:50] I am trying... [11:54] well === Amaranth [n=amaranth@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:56] raphink: You still want me to comment on the 51468 bug report or wait ? [11:56] sure you can comment if you have things to day :) [11:56] say [11:58] I've always got things to say. Just a matter of should I say them or not :) === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-209-217-79-221.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:00] can't find anything about sticky bit on debian [12:00] maybe http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=238460 was not fixed properly [12:00] and caused the bugt [12:00] Debian bug 238460 in general "Subject: general: apt-get source: certain files in some packages are owned by a" [Important,Closed] [12:00] although it's not sure [12:04] According to that they feel it's fixed in the latest dpkg, which it doesn't appear to be actually from what we've seen [12:04] yes [12:05] raphink: this one is better : http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341506 [12:05] Ubugtu: wake up :p [12:05] grr [12:05] yes I saw this one, too