[12:01] <SonicChao> soester, why do you want windows?
[12:01] <biscon> Savage: have you googled the error msg?
[12:01] <bbrazil> soester: usb keyboard?
[12:01] <soester> usb keyboard, wireless
[12:01] <stefg> coopster: no, removing 'quiet splash' works around the bug... I'm running -25 now, but without usplash, but have the DVD connected
[12:01] <santa44> SGershon: It seems to be a distribution specific problem because the laptop users said that the can shutdown with Kantonix and Windows but not with Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[12:01] <mada> soester: yeah, i don't think wireless is supported at boot default, i am pretty sure there is a fix for this somewhere around google
[12:02] <soester> SonicChaos: I don't want windows, but my sister will
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: try using a ps/2? There'sn option in grub to change the default menu item, but them you won't be able to get back to ubuntu
[12:02] <SonicChao> !tell scanner_X about gaim
[12:02] <njkt> jrib, well it worked... and i fixed it, looks like i was missing a couple files.  Thanks.
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: maybe turn on the usb->ps/2 thing in the bios?
[12:02] <bbrazil> soester: compatability mode or somesuch
[12:02] <jrib> njkt: great
[12:02] <SonicChao> soester, I thought it may be for a program or something
[12:02] <soester> bbrazil: In will go into the bios and look for it, thanks
[12:03] <xst> Normally I write "dpkg-reconfigure locales" in order to redefine the list of installed locales. But now it just re-calculates the locales giving me no selection list. How do I modify the list of installed locales then?
[12:03] <soester> Ok, I will try the bios thing
[12:03] <coopster> stefg:  thanks, i'll try that as soon as i get home
[12:03] <bbrazil> xst: check the options on dpkg-reconfigure, the priopirty thing might do it
[12:03] <mikeo1> where is the correct fonts directory
[12:03] <mikeo1> for xorg
[12:03] <mikeo1> so it can find default font fixed
[12:03] <noah> my media keys play, next/prev track, pause are having no effect on rhythmbox, although they seem to be set correctly in the keyboard shortcuts dialog... why might this be?
[12:04] <Savage> !sound
[12:04] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:04] <remnon> gah
[12:04] <mikeo1> !fonts
[12:04] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[12:04] <remnon> won't work
[12:04] <MrPockets> how hard would it be to burn the ambiant visuals you get in totem while listen to music onto a DVD?
[12:04] <remnon> damnit.. i need to mount it so i can get a shortcut onto me desktop
[12:05] <remnon> so, does anyone remember the command for that ?
[12:05] <xst> bbrazil: Nope. Even -p low just regenerates the locales without showing the selection list
[12:05] <remnon> see, i haven't done that in about a year now, and just installed ubuntu onto a new machine, and had some beers in the process... which means i'm quite tipsy
[12:05] <remnon> heh
[12:06] <biscon> MrPockets: pretty hard probably since they're procedurally generated. You should examine the totem source, find out if the visualisations is a seperate library.. if it is download it and write a program that does what you want
[12:06] <Savage> google is no help to me :(
[12:06] <bbrazil> xst: odd, checked for bugs on launchpad?
[12:06] <biscon> MrPockets: or put them in fullscreen and record them from the video out on your card
[12:07] <MrPockets> biscon, thats kinda more what im capaple of doing
[12:07] <biscon> Savage: let me have a go, what was that error message?
[12:08] <Aven> hey, how do you view all plugins?
[12:08] <Aven> in firefox
[12:08] <biscon> MrPockets: what about the fullscreen recording thinggie?
[12:08] <scanner_X> hey, how do i install things with alien.  What do i type in the command line
[12:08] <Aven> isn't it supposed to be Help > About Plug-ins? cause it's not there...
[12:08] <noah> Savage: was that !sound for me? i don't have a problem with sound, only the media keys...
[12:08] <necrite> hi all
[12:09] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone explain to me how I'm meant to download amarok from the instructions here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[12:09] <necrite> please help! :P .. i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to breezy ando now i cant start any gnome app
[12:09] <matju> i just plugged in a IDE drive on USB using an adaptor, and contrary to habit, Ubuntu doesn't detect it anymore. It normally appears as /dev/sda. any hints of things i should watch out for, or commands that i should try to run?
[12:09] <dasGewitter> So, after telling XChat-GNOME, to have a transparent, I can't open XChat anymore
[12:10] <Savage> noah: sorry im new to mirc it kept hearing a beeping noise i thought the ! sound would turn it off lol
[12:10] <vincenz> Anyone Anyone have any experience with xinerama.  I'm trying to follow the nstructions on forums, but all I get is my laptop monitor displaying wrongly (All fucked up with horiznotal lines)
[12:10] <stefg> matju: first ting to check is 'dmesg' after you put teh device in
[12:10] <noah> Savage: oh
[12:10] <shwag> I was going to install phpmyadmin, but the package wants to install a bunch of php5 dependencies. I am using LAMP which defaults to php4. Is it a good idea to let the php5 dependencies go in ?
[12:10] <necrite> i have one amd64
[12:10] <mada> Savage: why using mirc?
[12:10] <_thumper_> hi all
[12:10] <dslboyz> hello, i just upgraded to 6.06 LTS and am unable to login now?  i booted into recovery mode and added a user (useradd) but it still wont let me login?
[12:10] <_thumper_> I'm trying to secure a subversion server
[12:11] <_thumper_> using apache and ssl
[12:11] <mada> necrite: what about amd64?
[12:11] <necrite> please help! :P .. i update my ubuntu from 5.04 to breezy ando now i cant start any gnome app
[12:11] <_thumper_> I already had a local svn server running though
[12:11] <hctibtipots> HELP????
[12:11] <_thumper_> so all the files in /etc/subversion were owned by user svn
[12:11] <_thumper_> now using apache
[12:11] <mada> necrite: update to dapper
[12:11] <njkt> jrib, ok this sounds dumb but when using pbuilder where does it dump the binary package? lol
[12:11] <_thumper_> I need to make sure that apache can write to the repostory
[12:12] <_thumper_> docs say change ownership to apache
[12:12] <_thumper_> however httpd doesn't run as user apache
[12:12] <_thumper_> ideas?
[12:12] <hctibtipots> trying to execute this file ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run, and dont know how to
[12:12] <jrib> njkt: /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[12:12] <santa44> how can i update my kernel ?
[12:12] <njkt> ah ok, thanks
[12:12] <jrib> ubotu: tell hctibtipots about ati
[12:12] <biscon> hctibtipots: try chmod o+x ati-drivet etc.. then ./ati-driver..etc
[12:12] <compengi> is there any ssh channel here?
[12:13] <stefg> necrite: radical and uncool would be 'sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop'
[12:13] <mikeo1> WTF
[12:13] <mikeo1> where the hell is default font fixed
[12:13] <mikeo1> getting sick of it not working
[12:13] <necrite> mikeol xfont-base
[12:14] <mikeo1> already have the fonts installed
[12:14] <JaZy84> if i accidently did the base install and want an x interface can i install it off the cd
[12:14] <mikeo1> and its xfonts-base
[12:14] <stefg> dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig?
[12:14] <hctibtipots> ok i did that and it sed i need to run the file as super user
[12:14] <JaZy84> and if so what is the name i want cuz sudo apt-get install gnome  says it doesn't exsist
[12:14] <biscon> JaZy84: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package
[12:15] <JaZy84> ty
[12:15] <goonies> heh i just tried apt-get install x-chat and it says it doesnt exist =\
[12:15] <DoubLe|afk> hi leute
[12:15] <DoubLe> germans here
[12:15] <DoubLe> ?
[12:15] <biscon> hctibtipots: sudo ./filename .. but perhaps you should check up on the ubuntu guides for your card, don't know if the got a "wrapper" package in apt
[12:16] <stefg> !de
[12:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:16] <jolmash> hello all, could anybody help me on installing tha lame mp3 encoder? please!
[12:16] <matju> stefg: when i disconnect and reconnect, it only says:
[12:16] <jolmash> I have Ubuntu server with gnome, I have xfce instead
[12:16] <cntb> !il
[12:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about il
[12:16] <Nolt> hello
[12:16] <matju> stefg: [6774335.900000]  usb 1-3: USB disconnect, address 3
[12:16] <jrib> goonies: xchat, no dash
[12:16] <matju> stefg: [6774375.816000]  usb 1-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
[12:16] <aLPHa_LeaK>  n8
[12:17] <goonies> ive aso tried that jriv
[12:17] <goonies> jrib:
[12:17] <necrite> stefg: can i exclude openoffice from ubuntu-desktop _
[12:17] <necrite> ?
[12:17] <jrib> !info xchat
[12:17] <ubotu> xchat: IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.6.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 254 kB, installed size 720 kB
[12:17] <jrib> goonies: do you have universe enabled?
[12:17] <vincenz> Anyone have any experience with xorg.conf, I can't get xinerama setup
[12:17] <goonies> i only installed it last night
[12:17] <goonies> if it doesnt come enabled probaly not
[12:17] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about repos
[12:17] <cntb> israelis here ?
[12:18] <Nolt> i want ask how to enable more resolutions in dapper ( in windows i have more than only 1024x768 and in ubuntu i have max resolution 1024x768) Please help !
[12:18] <Nolt> any ideas ?
[12:18] <biscon> Nolt: yeah
[12:18] <stefg> matju: who knows what this 'adapter' does... ??? maybe a manual sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt gives you at least access
[12:18] <hyphenated> !resolution
[12:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:18] <mikeo1> fuck still cant find default font fixed
[12:18] <mikeo1> i have wasted like 3 hours with this
[12:19] <cntb> why mikeo1 ??/
[12:19] <DoubLe> i successfully finished the installation, but now i dont now the login name, i can only remember that he asked for a pw, does someone know this loginname?
[12:19] <matju> stefg: contrary to habit, i can't even do fdisk /dev/sda
[12:19] <stefg> necrite: no... meta-package is meta-package... nothing to exclude. This makes sure that everything is in place
[12:19] <biscon> Nolt: when I installed dapper it did the same thing to me. I opened xorg.conf and added the resolutions I needed
[12:19] <wazzu> Have people started to receive their free Dapper Drake CD?
[12:19] <matju> stefg: and it's not sdb nor sdc either
[12:19] <mikeo1> because i cant start x
[12:19] <Nolt> i see
[12:19] <mikeo1> because x cant find default font 'fixed'
[12:20] <matju> stefg: i did try /etc/init.d/hotplug restart and then unplugged and replugged the device
[12:20] <biscon> Nolt: I would recommend also setting the correct horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.
[12:20] <matju> stefg: and i tried several hard disks
[12:20] <matju> stefg: lsusb says: Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0402:5621 ALi Corp. USB 2.0 Storage Device
[12:20] <stefg> matju: hmmm... sorry then my 101-tips are exhausted. I guess it's the 'adapter'
[12:20] <hyphenated> mikeo1: did you do a default desktop install?
[12:20] <necrite> stefg, dapper  is las stable relece?
[12:21] <cntb> double should ave known linux prefers authentication not like WINDOWZE 98
[12:21] <necrite> stefg, it is good idea to change to?
[12:21] <Nolt> biscon: yes but how i can know what horizontal and vertical refresh will be correct :P
[12:21] <GBoS> wazzu: i have
[12:21] <GBoS> got it two days ago
[12:21] <hctibtipots> how do you change to super user???
[12:21] <stefg> necrite: i you don't desperatly need the 2.6.15 kernel breezy is still a valid option
[12:21] <cntb> !guide
[12:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about guide
[12:22] <Nolt> all i know in windows 1024x768 works in 85refresh and 1200x1024 with 72 or 75
[12:22] <wazzu> Thanks GBos
[12:22] <Blaze^^> how can i have sound in vmware's WindowsXP ?
[12:22] <GBoS> np
[12:22] <VooDoo> hctibtipots: use sudo
[12:22] <matju> hctibtipots: sudo bash
[12:22] <biscon> Nolt: its printed in your monitors manual. if you have thrown that out you can often find it by googling the model
[12:22] <cntb>  - >!guide  should lead to unofficial ubuntuguide.org which has great deal of solutions
[12:23] <Philosophy> Hello
[12:23] <mikeo1> where is default font fixed
[12:23] <mikeo1> and how can i make x find it
[12:23] <cntb> ppl run and see 4 yourself http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[12:23] <Nolt> ok
[12:24] <Philosophy> ok thanks
[12:24] <biscon> Nolt: when you find the numbers put them in the HorizSync and VertRefresh fields in the monitor section in your xorg.conf
[12:24] <gnomefreak> cntb: this is an official ubuntu channel there for official docs are used for best support
[12:24] <ciaron> is there a front end app for editing xorg.conf?
[12:25] <Nolt> ok
[12:25] <Nolt> thx
[12:25] <mikeo1> where is default font 'fixed' ?
[12:25] <biscon> Nolt: then you find the screen section.. there are resolution lines looking like this eg: Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[12:25] <vincenz> How do I get a higher resolution in text-consoles
[12:25] <cntb> ok butubuntu is really good for novices
[12:25] <biscon> Nolt: add your modes under all bit depths.. the first one is the one X starts in pr default
[12:25] <mikeo1> not when it doesnt work
[12:25] <hyphenated> mikeo1: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76046&page=4 <-- start reading at #38
[12:25] <hctibtipots> what is sudo bash???
[12:25] <mikeo1> i did an apt-get dist-upgrade and have lost all use of the pc
[12:25] <neotard> vincenz:  you need to set the vga parameter at boot time.
[12:25] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: dapper?
[12:25] <mikeo1> i have already read through all that
[12:25] <Nolt> biscon: http://www.samtron.com/PRODUCT/76e_spec.html here is it and all i need is put those verti and hori refreshes ? :D:D:
[12:26] <mikeo1> from breezy to dapper
[12:26] <hyphenated> mikeo1: what do you mean lost all use of the PC?
[12:26] <mikeo1> server version
[12:26] <biscon> hctibtipots: an ancient japanese martial arts attack rendering the subject paralyzed from the neck down
[12:26] <mikeo1> x cant start
[12:26] <cntb> 1- get there 2 -control -f find what you need 3-start executing solution
[12:26] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:26] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: what video card do you have?
[12:26] <stefg> vincenz: boot with a vga=0x303 (800x600) or vga=0x317 (1024x768) kernel parameter
[12:26] <hyphenated> mikeo1: yeah, but you can log into one of the text prompts
[12:26] <biscon> Nolt: yups if you scroll up I told you where to put the values in the xorg.conf file :)
[12:26] <mikeo1> yes
[12:26] <mikeo1> nvidia
[12:26] <Nolt> =] 
[12:26] <mikeo1> drivers are fine
[12:26] <xst> I just installed the language-support for my language, but still there is only US english in the language list. Also dpkg-reconfigure locales only generates en_US locales.
[12:26] <Nolt> thanks man
[12:26] <hctibtipots> well i am trying to change the resoultion of my pc
[12:27] <mikeo1> that was the first error, but i installed nvidia-glx
[12:27] <mikeo1> now i am getting the default font fixed error
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: are you sure you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:27] <mikeo1> i already have had xfs installed and reconfigured xserver-xorg
[12:27] <mikeo1> yes
[12:27] <biscon> Nolt: and don't remember to add the new modes to the list as well :)
[12:27] <mikeo1> and i reconfigured fontconfig too
[12:27] <neotard> vincenz:  in your grub menu.lst file there should be a line.. something like append=""  , you'd add vga=(mode setting).
[12:27] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: did you install ubuntu-desktop?
[12:27] <ciaron> mikeo1: vncserver?
[12:27] <mikeo1> no
[12:28] <mikeo1> ubuntu server
[12:28] <vincenz> neotard: where is this file found?
[12:28] <mikeo1> vnc server gives the same problem
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: server install has _no_ gui at all
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: server is text only unless you install x
[12:28] <mikeo1> i know
[12:28] <mikeo1> i installed one
[12:28] <CarlFK> Ther eused to be a 'terminal server client' to connect to windows terminal servers - where did it go?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: what did you install?
[12:28] <biscon> Nolt: in case you don't know you have to restart the x server inorder for the new settings to become active.. you can do that easiest with ctrl + alt + backspace, but beware, all apps close instantly
[12:28] <neotard> vincenz:  should be in /boot/grub, just called "menu.lst"
[12:28] <mikeo1> kdebase
[12:28] <mikeo1> and gnome
[12:29] <mikeo1> dont like all the bloat the normal ubuntu comes with
[12:29] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[12:29] <mikeo1> hell no
[12:29] <ciaron> i installed vncserver on the server edition and i had to symlink some font directories to get it to start
[12:29] <mikeo1> that will add like 1gb
[12:29] <mikeo1> it worked fine before i upgraded
[12:29] <mikeo1> it should work now
[12:29] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: kdebase wont give you xserver
[12:29] <ciaron> it was complaining that it could find font files
[12:29] <mikeo1> well i installed xserver too
[12:29] <mahadeva_> i need a mp3 player for ubuntu] 
[12:29] <mikeo1> no packages were removed in the upgrade, and it worked fine before the upgrade... so it should still work
[12:29] <mahadeva_> need help
[12:29] <vincenz> neotard: ah found it, yes :), just not the append bit
[12:30] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: paste the output of dpkg -l on pastebin please
[12:30] <vincenz> On another note, is there a proprietary ati driver that is packaged for dapper?
[12:30] <stefg> mikeo1: then... go dying without fonts... there's a package missing and if you won't figure out what it is, you've got to trust the ubuntu-devs
[12:30] <algor> vincens italian?
[12:30] <Nolt> biscon: look hmm where exactly i should place refreshes ?
[12:30] <Nolt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16788
[12:30] <jolmash> hello all, could anybody help me on installing tha lame mp3 encoder? please!
[12:31] <neotard> vincenz:  on the kernel line you'll add "vga="  then after the equals goes a vesa text mode
[12:31] <mikeo1> where can i download default font 'fixed'
[12:31] <biscon> Nolt: search for this HorizSync for the horizontal
[12:31] <CarlFK> vincenz: yes - something -glx (i think)
[12:31] <Nolt> there arent any options there :P
[12:31] <mikeo1> and installing a bunch of useless shit that i dont need isnt going to fix my fonts, it will just slow down my server
[12:31] <CarlFK> vincenz: search for glx :)
[12:31] <biscon> Nolt: and VertRefresh for the vertical, just replace the values with your monitors
[12:32] <CarlFK> mikeo1: watch the language
[12:32] <algor> know faq for wpa2 install?
[12:32] <borntobewild> "what is the location of the make program on your machine??"
[12:32] <borntobewild> what is the answer?
[12:32] <Nolt> yea but i dont have VertRefresh :D
[12:32] <CarlFK> borntobewild: what wants to know? :) (really)
[12:32] <ciaron> mikeo1: whats the error message you're getting?
[12:33] <biscon> Nolt: really? you're looking in the Section "monitor" thing?
[12:33] <borntobewild> ?
[12:33] <KenSentMe> Can somebody help me using gpg in squirrelmail?
[12:33] <dereks> does beagle in dapper currently index thunderbird
[12:33] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mikeo1: i asked for the ouput of that command so i can see what is going on your choice want help paste the output to pastebin if not feel free to read help.ubuntu.com
[12:33] <mikeo1> fatal server error: could not open default font fixed or soemthing
[12:33] <vincenz> CarlFK: I hope you don't mean fglrx
[12:33] <borntobewild> vmware tools
[12:33] <borntobewild> CarlFK do you know the answer?
[12:33] <Nolt> in xorg.conf i dont have any VerRefresh or somthing like that
[12:33] <Nolt> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16788
[12:33] <Nolt> look in paste
[12:33] <CarlFK> vincenz: not athta - let me look
[12:33] <borntobewild> CarlFK:?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Nolt: yes you should its vertical refresh rate
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: then add one.. its VertRefresh btw
[12:34] <neotard> vincenz:  regarding ati stuff, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:34] <Nolt> ok
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: mine looks like this: VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
[12:34] <CarlFK> borntobewild:no.  but i bet you have a bigger problem that has a simple solution
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: just add the line under the HorizSync one
[12:34] <borntobewild> what do you mean?
[12:34] <biscon> Nolt: with your own values of course :)
[12:34] <borntobewild> it's a simple ques
[12:34] <neotard> vincenz:  most important thing to remember in the document is to restart after you do all the installs.  I've had several people who forget, then rip into it expecting it broken.
[12:35] <stefg> mikeo1: you have the transcoded font packages, haven't you?
[12:35] <rome5677> I just bought a Dell with a Pentium D cpu, which  supports EM64T. I'm going to install 6.06 AMD Desktop edition on Ubuntu. I just wanted to know if the kernel it installs will suppot the dual core on the cpu or will I need to install another kernel, possible smp, to support the dual core? Thanks
[12:35] <vincenz> neotard: those are not the ati ones
[12:35] <mikeo1> what are those
[12:35] <Nolt> ok
[12:35] <Nolt> thanks
[12:35] <Nolt> again
[12:35] <CarlFK> borntobewild: i guess /tmp.  now back to my question: who (what) is asking?
[12:35] <Nolt> and good night =] 
[12:35] <mikeo1> yes
[12:35] <NickGarve1> he
[12:35] <NickGarve1> /ghost nickgarvey
[12:35] <mikeo1> i have the transcoded fonts
[12:35] <biscon> Nolt: and don't forget to add the new resolutions :)
[12:35] <neotard> vincenz:  ?  ati :)
[12:35] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:36] <biscon> Nolt: have you located and changed them in the config file?
[12:36] <neotard> vincenz:  fglrx = ati
[12:36] <vincenz> neotard: yeah but fglrx, and fglrx is buggy
[12:36] <ciaron> mikeo1: symlink /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts to /usr/share/X11/fonts
[12:36] <borntobewild> CarlFK:i said vmwaretools
[12:37] <stefg> mikeo1: forget my last comment... this was debian. in ubuntu the transcoded fonts seem to be in xfonts-100dpi, xfonts-75dpi and xfonts-base
[12:37] <neotard> vincenz:  idk, I'm using it right now on multiple heads w/ compiz and it's rock solid
[12:37] <vincenz> neotard: I don't get direct rendering on ati x300... everythng is laggy in X, even typing in here
[12:37] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:37] <hctibtipots> how can you change the resolution after you install the ati drivers???
[12:37] <mikeo1> ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/share/X11/fonts/fonts' to `/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts': File exists
[12:37] <mikeo1> think i did that last time when it gave my this problem
[12:37] <neotard> vincenz:  hmm, odd.  I have an "r300" (9700 pro) and they're working like a top
[12:37] <vincenz> neotard: besides I can't get xinerama to work at all :/  The most I get is some funky stuff on my laptop due to a wrong frequency or resolution most likely
[12:38] <mikeo1> after x wouldnt start when i installed kdebase
[12:38] <borntobewild> CarlFK:the answer /tmp is invalid.It must be a complete name o a binary file
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: mind pasting your xorg.conf?
[12:38] <biscon> mikeo1: hehe try giving the arguments in reverse order
[12:38] <ciaron> mikeo1: you have fonts twice
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  the fglrx drivers do NOT use xinerama
[12:38] <CarlFK> borntobewild: sorry - i missed it the first time.  I am wondering if you have it.  have you installed build-essential ?
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: oh
[12:38] <vincenz> neotard: well mind pasting your xorg.conf?
[12:38] <borntobewild> no
[12:38] <vincenz> maybe I can get some info from that
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  you can get xinerama-like effects, but it's not xinerama in the terms of xorg
[12:38] <neotard> vincenz:  np, one sec
[12:39] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:40] <mikeo1> made hte link
[12:40] <CarlFK> borntobewild: thats the bigger problem.  $ sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:40] <mikeo1> and still cant find default font fixed
[12:40] <ubuntu> hi
[12:40] <CarlFK> borntobewild:  that will get you make and the c compiler and all the other things you will need
[12:40] <mikeo1> what is supposed to be the correct fonts directory
[12:41] <neotard> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16791
[12:41] <vincenz> neotard: thx
[12:42] <borntobewild> CarlFK:then am i ready to install vmare-tools
[12:42] <jackal`inst> hiho (: is somebody so nice to explain a xubuntu newb, how to set up a network connection between xubuntu and winxp? (:
[12:42] <neotard> vincenz:  oops, hold on :D
[12:42] <Raito> Help! I am compiling a program from source, (HuGo) There is no ./configure so I went right ahead and typed 'make' This is the error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16790
[12:42] <Intelligi> I need help. Starting up in safe mode gave me weird errors.
[12:42] <CarlFK> borntobewild: if not you will be a whole lot closer ;)
[12:43] <mikeo1> whats the difference between xorg and X11R6
[12:43] <mikeo1> xorg is the newer one right?
[12:43] <vincenz> neotard: Driver "radeon"?
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  :P  yeah, was in a hurry
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16792
[12:43] <CarlFK> vincenz: you were right: " ATI-provided, binary-only, 'fglrx'
[12:43] <neotard> vincenz:  there you go, using fglrx.  for reference.. if you want to do it in radeon, that's how you do it :)
[12:44] <hctibtipots> how do you install java .rpm file???
[12:44] <neotard> hctibtipots:  don't :p
[12:44] <hctibtipots> lol
[12:44] <vincenz> kewl
[12:44] <Raito> hctibtipots: Theoretically you can use alien, but it is not reccomended
[12:44] <hctibtipots> how do you install jave then???
[12:44] <neotard> hctibtipots:  what jvm do you want?  they're all in the repository except for the beta jvm's
[12:44] <apokryphos> hctibtipots: check the FAQ
[12:44] <nbx909> !tell hctibtipots about java
[12:45] <nbx909> hrm
[12:45] <vincenz> neotard: never even heard of reference ...
[12:45] <nbx909> ubotu, tell hctibtipots about java
[12:45] <Raito> There ought to be a package for java, something like sun-java5-bin or something
[12:45] <vincenz> neotard: you don't set youR AGP stuff?
[12:45] <CarlFK> borntobewild: oddly enought I am installing vmware tools too - I think you are a step ahead of me
[12:45] <nbx909> well
[12:45] <nbx909> anyway
[12:45] <neotard> vincenz:  nah, no need.  you CAN if you're running into specific issues
[12:45] <Raito> Help! I am compiling a program from source, (HuGo) There is no ./configure so I went right ahead and typed 'make' This is the error output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16790
[12:46] <vincenz> neotard: that's monoscreen I take it
[12:46] <tom7e> help!  i recently installed some new video drivers and am having problems.  I THINK my problem is that the resolution is set too low, because my monitor will not show anything below 1024.  i also can't see it via the television that is hooked up.  I can get into the safe mode command prompt though.  what file do i need to edit to adjust my resolution in gnome?  thanks.
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  no, that's dual-head xinerama-like support
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  using that configuration right now
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  have tvtime playing on the other screen atm :)
[12:46] <vincenz> neotard: but it only has one monitor declaration
[12:46] <nbx909> is there a list of all the packages that are included in ubuntu somewhere?
[12:46] <bryanl> so, the dapper install process won't start if you have an ati x300
[12:46] <neotard> vincenz:  uses dpms to figure the other one out.
[12:47] <vincenz> ah k
[12:47] <neotard> vincenz:  under device the "DestopSetup horizontal" line sets up the merged framebuffer for X
[12:47] <ciaron> is there a front end app for editing xorg.conf?
[12:47] <jackal`inst> how to search the local network with xubuntu? or ubuntu?
[12:48] <vincenz> neotard: well I don't get anything messed up now, but my CRT is still blank, just my laptop monitor
[12:48] <neotard> vincenz:  you can define meta modes like in the radeon driver if you want.  I just use 1280x1024 on both screens :)
[12:48] <goonies> ok so i have mounted my windows partition using the following command, mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows -t ntfs -r -o uid=goonies, and when i check the folders properties the owner is root, how does that work
[12:49] <tom7e> help!  i recently installed some new video drivers and am having problems.  I THINK my problem is that the resolution is set too low, because my monitor will not show anything below 1024.  i also can't see it via the television that is hooked up.  I can get into the safe mode command prompt though.  what file do i need to edit to adjust my resolution in gnome?  thanks.
[12:49] <neotard> vincenz:  if you can use the fglrx driver on a single screen successfully, you can do dual-head if the card supports it.  the DesktopSetup is the keyword that's important there
[12:50] <Jack_Sparrow> How do I boot the live CD and repair my grub bootloader
[12:50] <stefg> !grub
[12:50] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:50] <jrib> goonies: I'm not sure, but I think you may need your actual uid, not just the username.  Run 'id' in a terminal
[12:50] <vincenz> neotard: this is my setup: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y7AfAu39.html
[12:50] <goonies> i did that as well, 1000
[12:50] <goonies> same results, i mean it gives me axx to the folder, but doesnt set my user as the owner
[12:51] <SemogM> Is it possible to install a GUI at Ubuntu server? Are there some package to do this at Ubuntu Server CD?
[12:52] <neotard> vincenz:  can your other monitor do 1400x1050? :)
[12:52] <jrib> goonies: you ran umount first and then ran the new mount command with the uid as a number?
[12:52] <stefg> Jack_Sparrow: actually you don't have to boot the Live-CD all the way. Having a grub boo prompt already is enough to reinstall it to the mbr of the harddis
[12:52] <goonies> jrib, yes
[12:52] <vincenz> neotard: most likely
[12:52] <vincenz> neotard: it's afanct f900p
[12:52] <vincenz> a fancy
[12:52] <goonies> i got it, what happened was i created the folder on my desktop as root
[12:52] <stickystyle> Im having a strange problem with a 6.06 server i just built, whenever i try to 'apt-get update' it hangs at "Waiting for headers".  It is connecting through an apt-proxy server on another 6.06 box, and all the other servers on the same vlan can update just fine, just not this new one.  I have reinstalled twice now and i have the same issue each time, anyone have any ideas?
[12:53] <goonies> thanks for the help again
[12:54] <tom7e> vincenz you have a radeon x300?
[12:54] <vincenz> tom7e: yep
[12:54] <tom7e> me too
[12:54] <vincenz> tom7e: you solved it?
[12:54] <neotard> vincenz:  might try setting a meta mode, like the first pastebin I gave you..  in the device section.
[12:54] <tom7e> what problem?
[12:54] <vincenz> neotard: heh, sadly some other paste overwrote it
[12:55] <compengi> why my lunix freezes sometimes
[12:55] <vincenz> tom7e: indirect rendering/ no multi screen
[12:55] <vincenz> not to mention all the API errors in fglrx
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  vincenz:  no expert, but if your
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  argh
[12:55] <tom7e> i have gotten it to sort of work in fedora
[12:55] <tom7e> I had a monitor and television hooked up through the video out.
[12:55] <neotard> vincenz:  Option		"MetaModes"		"1280x1024-1280x1024"
[12:56] <neotard> vincenz:  ok.. the resolutions to the left of the "-" represent individual screen sizes
[12:56] <vincenz> in Device
[12:56] <neotard> vincenz:  yeah
[12:57] <neotard> vincenz:  do you have fglrx enabled for single-screen?  if you run fglrxinfo from the command prompt does it mention ati?  I'm guessing if you're having slow screen refreshes that's a no.
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: heh this is actually funky, now that I have this desktopsetup, if I launch firefox the first time, it shows me this msall bar about 20 pixels wide on the right
[12:57] <neotard> vincenz:  everything hinges on at least having fglrx working :)
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: well erm, not unless I use a hacked libGL.1.2
[12:57] <tom7e> what i a good terminal based editor?  vi sucks for me.
[12:57] <vincenz> neotard: otherwise I get a bunch of api  errors
[12:57] <Kyral> Emacs!
[12:57] <Kyral> or Nano....
[12:57] <neotard> tom7e:  I like Joe
[12:57] <vincenz> tom7e: ed
[12:57] <Kyral> lol
[12:58] <Kyral> I'd rather use cat to edit files than I would ed
[12:58] <neotard> tom7e:  it really is an editor :D  it's very wordstarish
[12:58] <tom7e> can i change the current resolution from within xorg.conf?
[12:58] <Kyral> cat >> filename << "EOF"
[12:58] <SemogM> sorry, but someone know if the Ubuntu Server iso from Ubuntu website has some GUI in their contents?
[12:58] <Kyral> and go until you type EOF
[12:58] <Kyral> SemogM: server == NO GUI!!!
[12:59] <vincenz> neotard: ERROR: DDX driver fingerprint mismatch: got 0xC20D27F9, but expected 0x32C4A39B
[12:59] <vincenz> libGL error: InitDriver failed
[12:59] <SemogM> could I install a GUI in the server?
[12:59] <Kyral> SemogM: of course
[12:59] <compengi> when i started to do programming on ubuntu my computer starts to freeze like i can't click on anything by mouse just by using the keyboard =/
[12:59] <Kyral> install your favorite WM and it will drag X with it
[12:59] <SemogM> ok, but how can i do this?
[12:59] <neotard> SemogM:  it's just ubuntu, you can install anything from any added repository
[12:59] <Kyral> SemogM: you know how to use Apt?
[01:00] <XtortioN> Hello does any one know the command to reconfegure sound card
[01:00] <XtortioN> ?
[01:00] <neotard> vincenz:  maybe someone knows something more about specifics with the driver.  tbh, I had no issues with the binary driver howto under dapper (important to remember to restart after install).  multihead works like I have it setup.
[01:00] <SemogM> [Kyral] : no
[01:01] <Kyral> SemogM: open a terminal and do "man apt-get" :P
[01:01] <neotard> vincenz:  if you have fglrx setup though, fglrxinfo should spew out the proper ati info
[01:01] <SemogM> [Kyral] : ok, ill try this
[01:01] <vincenz> neotard: I get driver inconsistencies
[01:01] <bamba> cant get any help on the FX channel, does any one know another good channelf for firefox issues ?
[01:01] <vincenz> neotard: either way, fglrx driver has bugs in libGL.so.1.2
[01:01] <eXistenZ> How can I set ubuntu's locale in UTF-8?
[01:02] <vincenz> neotard: a bunch of API errors
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  it has to work on a single screen before you can even begin to think about multi-head though.
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  it overwrites it
[01:02] <neotard> vincenz:  ati drivers have their own version of the gl library
[01:02] <vincenz> neotard: oh?
[01:02] <tom7e> in xorg.conf does "depth" mean number of colors?
[01:02] <XtortioN> Does any one know the cmd to reconfigure alsa, some thing like alsaconf
[01:02] <XtortioN> ?
[01:03] <vincenz> neotard: where do I get it?
[01:03] <neotard> vincenz:  it's part of the install :)
[01:03] <vincenz> neotard: odd
[01:03] <maddy> tom7e, yeah think so like 16 bit 24 32 bit etc
[01:03] <neotard> XtortioN:  what do you mean?
[01:03] <tom7e> finally, how do i save in nano?
[01:03] <goonies> ctrl + x
[01:04] <tom7e> that's exit
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto ati
[01:04] <maddy> +s
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto ati
[01:04] <stefg> ctrl o
[01:04] <neotard> tom7e:  think it says "WriteOut" on the bottom of the screen
[01:04] <goonies> thats how i save =P
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <tom7e> ohh, i see
[01:04] <XtortioN> neotard, i just changed sound cards and im having problems geting my new sound card to work with some programs is there a way i can reconfure?
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto binarydriver
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto binarydriver
[01:04] <goonies> asks me if i want to save b4 i exit =] 
[01:04] <vincenz> !ubuto atibinarydriver
[01:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubuto atibinarydriver
[01:04] <tom7e> !ubuto fglrx
[01:04] <neotard> XtortioN:  so it works for some and not others?
[01:04] <XtortioN> yea
[01:04] <vincenz> neotard: I'm nearly 100% certain I followed the instructions on that page, forgot the link now
[01:05] <XtortioN> neotard, i beleave its alsa
[01:05] <stefg> !ati >tom7e
[01:05] <tom7e> ok
[01:05] <tom7e> !ati
[01:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:05] <neotard> XtortioN:  so what programs have issues?
[01:05] <XtortioN> wine
[01:05] <vincenz> Unfortunately OpenGL seems to be broken for R200 cards (everything below Radeon 9500) in this driver version. This may be fixed by replacing /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 with libGL.so.1.2 from the previous driver version (8.24.8).
[01:05] <XtortioN> and other music apps
[01:06] <neotard> XtortioN:  in xmms for example, you can configure the sound device in your options.
[01:07] <neotard> XtortioN:  it sounds like it's working is what I'm saying.  maybe it's more of an application specific issue :)  like it's pointing to an OSS device and needs to be pointed to your alsa device now
[01:07] <XtortioN> neotard, perhaps.
[01:08] <XtortioN> neotard, you ever here about alsa conf
[01:08] <neotard> XtortioN:  still tinkering with sound myself :)  have multiple sound cards, and Linux definitely doesn't play nicely with it all
[01:08] <vincenz> damn screen blackened and pc froze
[01:09] <XtortioN> lol
[01:09] <Raito> Does anyone know what this error is (I am compiling a program from source) >	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16793
[01:09] <jolmash> why if I compile LAME, it only create mlame, and not lame?
[01:10] <Tom7e> vincente, my second screen is working now
[01:10] <vincenz> Tom7e: cool
[01:10] <vincenz> Tom7e: paste your xorg.conf?
[01:10] <Tom7e> sure
[01:11] <Tom7e> all i did was replace 'ati' with 'fglrx', i'll paste it though.
[01:11] <XtortioN> neotard, this is what i get:
[01:11] <XtortioN> stuart@stuart-d0:~$ winecfg
[01:11] <XtortioN> ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[01:11] <XtortioN> Creating link /home/stuart/.kde/socket-stuart-d0.
[01:11] <XtortioN> can't create mcop directory
[01:11] <zukalk> hey, i'd like to burn several albums with i've ripped to mp3 into one cd. which app should i use to burn mp3 CDs?
[01:11] <Tom7e> vincenz:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16794
[01:12] <vincenz> Tom7e: you had the x300?
[01:12] <Tom7e> vincenz:  radeon x300 SE to be exact.
[01:12] <Jaynyls> i need some help
[01:12] <Jaynyls> im a new ubuntu user
[01:12] <XtortioN> i think its time to format
[01:13] <XtortioN> ;/
[01:13] <an0malist> Hey can someone help me find the file  libmp3lame.so ???
[01:13] <lophyte> Jaynyls: what's up?
[01:13] <Jaynyls> i'm running it on a IBM T42 notebook. i'm seeing some graphic corruption here and there.
[01:13] <NickGarvey> an0malist: "cd /"
[01:13] <NickGarvey> an0malist: "sudo find -name libmp3lame.so"
[01:13] <Tom7e> vincenz:  it isn't perfect yet, though.  i haven't tried 3d graphics yet
[01:14] <Jaynyls> help with that?
[01:14] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:14] <Tom7e> but i don't game under *nix anyways
[01:14] <lophyte> Jaynyls: sorry, I've never run ubuntu on a laptop so I'm not sure
[01:14] <Savage> what does that mean?
[01:14] <Jaynyls> durn.
[01:14] <Jaynyls> thanks anyway lophyte
[01:14] <vincenz> Tom7e: type "fglrxinfo
[01:14] <lophyte> np
[01:14] <vincenz> in console
[01:14] <Tom7e> ok
[01:14] <an0malist> NickGarvey: I've tried that.. not on my hard drive.. where can I find it online?
[01:15] <Tom7e> also, my second screen is my TV and it doesn't fit the screen perfectly, but that can be worked on
[01:15] <NickGarvey> an0malist: um, apt-get install lame?
[01:15] <Tom7e> want me to pastebin that vincenz?
[01:15] <an0malist> ok :)
[01:15] <vincenz> Tom7e: sure
[01:15] <OffHand> does anyone know why my mounted fat32 drive has funky characters in the name?
[01:15] <NickGarvey> !mp3 > an0malist
[01:15] <an0malist> NickGarvey: thanks, im a super newb lol
[01:16] <NickGarvey> :)
[01:16] <Tom7e> vincenz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16795
[01:16] <vincenz> heh
[01:16] <vincenz> odd
[01:16] <vincenz> it just doesn't like me I guess
[01:16] <vincenz> Tom7e: and this is dapper?
[01:16] <vincenz> and not breezy
[01:16] <Tom7e> i'm not sure
[01:17] <Tom7e> very new to ubuntu, previously a fedora user
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: most recent version?
[01:17] <Jaynyls> can Windows users with Office read my docs created in OpenOffice?
[01:17] <Tom7e> NickGarvey:  ?  i don't understand your question?
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: when saving, pick a .doc format not .odt
[01:17] <vincenz> brb
[01:17] <vincenz> rebooting
[01:17] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: running the most recent ubuntu?
[01:17] <Tom7e> ok, good luck
[01:18] <Tom7e> NickGarvey:  i assume, unless the webpage hasn't been updated!!  i downloaded a few days ago.
[01:18] <NickGarvey> Tom7e: then its dapper
[01:18] <Jaynyls> ohhhh.
[01:18] <Tom7e> what is the diff?
[01:18] <Jaynyls> so if i save as a doc it's just as if i created it with Microsoft Office?
[01:18] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: ideally, unless you are doing some amazingly weird formatting
[01:19] <Jaynyls> i see.
[01:19] <Ackeubu_> Hey guys in both movie player and in VLC my subs starts to early! they skip the first 3 lines and then starts just as the movie starts. maybe 2 minutes to early..??
[01:19] <qwon> hi i'm getting "Error opening terminal: bterm" when typing grub> setup hd0
[01:19] <qwon> how do i fix it?
[01:19] <Jaynyls> last question. what's another noob Linux distro for me to try?
[01:19] <Intelligi> I am getting some kind of weird X Server error.
[01:19] <NickGarvey> Jaynyls: I like suse..
[01:19] <Intelligi> I don't know what is wrong.
[01:19] <Ackeubu_> Is there an app changing the time in a subtitles file? srt?
[01:19] <Tom7e> Jaynyls:  Fedora is newbie friendy
[01:19] <Intelligi> The Live CD won't work. I can only get the command prompt by trying to use the safe mode.
[01:19] <lophyte> !wine
[01:19] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:20] <mikeo1> where is default font fixed
[01:20] <Intelligi> Could it have anything to do with the fact I have two VGA devices?
[01:20] <mikeo1> Fatal server error:
[01:20] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:20] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:20] <mikeo1> how can i get xorg to find default font fixed
[01:20] <Savage> why does it make me hit enter when i cntrl v damnit
[01:22] <randomdouche> hi
[01:22] <rjw> hi there. was wondering if anyone had any familiarty with raid controllers.
[01:22] <Savage> /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:22] <Savage> What does this mean?
[01:22] <vincenz> Re
[01:22] <jme> mikeo1: see http://wiki.x.org/wiki/FAQErrorMessages
[01:23] <vincenz> Re
[01:23] <vincenz> damn, still an issue with fglrxinfo
[01:23] <vincenz> [fglrx]  API ERROR: could not register entrypoint
[01:23] <vincenz> a bunch of those
[01:24] <rjw> specifically, I have an integrated SiI chipset on my MB that seems to cause a kernel lockup on boot... so I was considering getting a new controller (I've tried everything to get it to work), bit am not sure what card is best.
[01:24] <Tommy> HELP!
[01:24] <Tommy> okay
[01:24] <Tommy> i have a problem
[01:24] <stefg> !enter
[01:24] <numist> clearly
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:24] <numist> your problems may not be addressable by this channel
[01:24] <Tommy> i dont know what the difference between linux-386 and linux-image-386
[01:25] <Tommy> can someone help?
[01:25] <dmb> any of you know if in xchat, its possible to have 2 diferent nicknames on two seperate servers?
[01:25] <Tommy> and i am sorry about the enter, i am used to messenger, i dont think so dmb
[01:25] <jme> not much: linux-386 depends on linux-image-386
[01:25] <jme> really, not much difference
[01:25] <jme> dmb: yes, it's possible
[01:25] <jolmash> hello all, can someone help on installing PHP5 as cgi on apache2 with PHP4 as module?
[01:25] <Matrikz> Tommy: you can open xchat more than once
[01:26] <an0malist> hey i installed lame via apt-get and it finished, but still no libmp3lame.so file found anywhere?
[01:26] <Matrikz> also, what version of xchat do you have?
[01:26] <jme> in the Server List, uncheck the box saying "Use global server info"
[01:26] <megatronnn> newb question: how can i run terminal as root?
[01:26] <rjw> raid controller recommendations, anyone?
[01:26] <jme> actually, it's possible within one instance of X-Chat
[01:26] <Matrikz> yes it is
[01:26] <Tommy> okay, which one should i install for a home computer than?
[01:26] <Matrikz> but i know the old version of xchat had a connect with new tab button
[01:26] <jme> megatronnn: 'sudo gnome-terminal'
[01:26] <squiggly> yes dmb
[01:27] <bimberi> Tommy: linux-386 has the linux-restricted-modules package as a dependency
[01:27] <mcphail> Tommy: use the 686 image
[01:27] <jme> try not to do anything dumb!
[01:27] <stefg> megatronnn: sudo -s will give you a root-shell in an already open terminal
[01:27] <Tommy> ok, thank you very much
[01:27] <squiggly> look for the 'use global information' checkbox
[01:27] <squiggly> uncheck it and you can specify different nicks
[01:27] <bimberi> Tommy: you get the same kernel with both,  most will install linux-386
[01:27] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[01:27] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:27] <Tommy> uhhgg, so two ppl are telling me different ones
[01:27] <megatronnn> @jme:  thanks man!
[01:27] <dmb> jme: how?
[01:27] <squiggly> dmb: look for the 'use global information' checkbox
[01:28] <jme> like I said
[01:28] <jme> in the Server List, uncheck the box saying "Use global server info"
[01:28] <squiggly> dmb: uncheck it and you can specify different nicks
[01:28] <Tommy> okay, i'll just go with the linux-368
[01:28] <Tommy> okay?
[01:28] <rjw> anyone know anyone who can help me with my raid controller question? :p
[01:28] <dmb> jme: oh, sorry, guess i missed that :)
[01:28] <bimberi> Tommy: yep, except it's 86 :P
[01:29] <mcphail> Tommy: unless your computer is _very_ old, use a 686 kernel
[01:29] <Tommy> lol, mine says 386
[01:29] <Tommy> i have 5.10
[01:29] <vilefridge> Does anyone here have experience troubleshooting no-audio issues?
[01:29] <bioticpro> hey yall, Im looking to make my middle mouse wheel click, be mapped to a keyboard action for all programs, including desktop, how would I do this?
[01:29] <mcphail> Tommy: 386 is the default install (which works on most computers). The i686 kernel will be much zippier
[01:30] <bryanl> i want to share my ubuntu printer to a mac and a windows box.... whats the best soluation?
[01:30] <Tommy> i have no idea what to do, lol
[01:30] <Matrikz> 386 is for older pcs
[01:30] <Matrikz> 686 is if you have a newer pc
[01:30] <Matrikz> less than 2 years old i'd say
[01:30] <Tommy> i'm just gonna go with 386, my pc is about 4 years old
[01:30] <Tommy> that's my other one
[01:30] <Matrikz> if you are unsure just install the 386
[01:30] <Tommy> i am on less than year right now
[01:30] <mcphail> Tommy: if your computer is a pentiumII or newer use the 686
[01:30] <Tommy> okay
[01:30] <bryanl> 686 is really old
[01:30] <Tommy> thanks
[01:30] <bryanl> think about it...
[01:30] <bryanl> the p2 was a 686
[01:30] <vilefridge> Celerons are 686 capable as well I believe
[01:31] <Matrikz> but it's not just the cpu
[01:31] <rjw> sata ii raid controller recommendations, anyone? Am I totally in the wrong channel here?
[01:31] <Matrikz> it's all the componants
[01:31] <Tommy> i have no idea what to do so i am going with 386
[01:31] <Matrikz> 686 will install just like 386
[01:31] <bryanl> Matrikz: no, i actually believe you are mistaken...
[01:31] <bryanl> wow... has #ubuntu sunken this low?
[01:31] <ggilbert_> tommy, if your computer is only 4 years old, then the 686 will be fine.
[01:31] <mcphail> Tommy: you won't go wrong with the 386, but Ubuntu will run smoother with the 686 kernel.
[01:32] <Draconicus> I have a large selection of problems right now. I think I'll start with the most urgent one.
[01:32] <Tommy> ok
[01:32] <Tommy> brv
[01:32] <Tommy> brb*
[01:32] <lasindi_> Hi all, I just tried to install glib2.0-dev for a program I'm writing, and I got an error message telling me: "Depends: libglib2.0-0 (=2.10.2-1ubuntu3) but 2.10.3-0ubuntu1 is to be installed", and I don't really understand what this means. Is there a way to fix it so I can install this library?
[01:32] <rjw> I have never found being ignored so helpful. I guess I'll stick to windows, where my hardware just works.
[01:32] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:32] <ggilbert_> I was under the impression that the only difference was what cpu the packages were tuned for. So either package would work
[01:33] <NickGarvey> !patience > rjw
[01:33] <mikeo1> could not open default font 'fixed'
[01:33] <OPENports> hi
[01:33] <jme> !patience
[01:33] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[01:33] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:33] <jme> heh
[01:34] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:34] <Draconicus> Nautilus has broken. It has simply stopped working correctly. No matter how many times I kill and restart it, it opens with a dead window in the browser, and the desktop won't show up until the browser finishes loading, so that's not there, either. I'm tempted to reboot at this point, but that's something I generally don't do.
[01:34] <bryanl> i'm actually suprised that folks would thank that they *have* to be helped in #ubuntu
[01:34] <mikeo1> ERROR could not open default font
[01:34] <J-_Away> is it worth it to download ubuntu 6.06, or should i just reinstall breezy badger? i screwed up breezy by installing a system update...
[01:34] <mikeo1> 'fixed'
[01:34] <NickGarvey> bryanl: go away you are annoying
[01:34] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: How long would it take you to download it?
[01:34] <megatronnn> has anyone had success getting wine to install from source?
[01:34] <jme> lasindi_: that's likely a problem with the package
[01:34] <OPENports> ""willapache hos .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:34] <NickGarvey> bryanl: go troll somewhere else
[01:34] <Matrikz> OPENports: give someone a chance
[01:35] <bryanl> NickGarvey: how am i annoying? i
[01:35] <bryanl> boo nick
[01:35] <OPENports> sorry
[01:35] <Tommy> mcphail: i only have 3 options for kernels, all 3 are 386
[01:35] <Matrikz> therewere others here before you asking for help
[01:35] <bryanl> i'm not trolling
[01:35] <NickGarvey> /ignore bryanl
[01:35] <jme> lasindi_: basically, it wants a lower version of libglib than you have, so it won't install
[01:35] <bryanl> thanks nick
[01:35] <J-_Away> already 10% done within 10 mins
[01:35] <Tom7e> how do I run file browser from the terminal?  what is it's command?
[01:35] <jme> lasindi_: I believe there's a way to force installation anyway, and it might work
[01:35] <OPENports> Matrikz:sorry
[01:35] <jme> Tom7e: nautilus&
[01:35] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: Dapper is a nice upgrade from breezy, but unless it's a fairly quick download for you, you might as well just install breezy and use the package manager to upgrade.
[01:35] <lecaros> !seen mhz
[01:35] <ubotu> I last saw mhz (n=mhz@moinmoin/fan/mhz) 19h 55m ago, changing nicks
[01:35] <Matrikz> no need to appologize
[01:36] <Matrikz> just be patient
[01:36] <bryanl> Tom7e:  you could start with file:///
[01:36] <J-_Away> i tried the package manager upgrade and it screwed up my system
[01:36] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: Though downloading the cd might end up being faster if you ever want to reinstall on another computer.
[01:36] <Tommy> u guys, u told me that 686 would work but i only hav 3 kernels to choose from, and all 3 are 386
[01:36] <Matrikz> Tommy: that's because you downloaded the 386 iso
[01:37] <lasindi_> jme: ok, well, my real goal is to install libsdl1.2-dev, which apparently depends indirectly on libglib2.0-dev. Do you think I should force the libglib package or something else?
[01:37] <bryanl> tommy: you could always "sudo apt-get install linux-686"
[01:37] <J-_Away> yeah might as well just download the new one, probably better security/system resources since my other computer is crappy =)
[01:37] <Tommy> Matrikz, i got it from a store, so which one should i download?
[01:38] <jme> lasindi_: to be honest, I have no idea what will work, but I'd try forcing libglib
[01:38] <Matrikz> do what bryanl said
[01:38] <jme> you can remove it if it breaks
[01:38] <Tommy> what did bryanl say? lol, i blocked him
[01:38] <mikeo1> FINALLY FIXED DEFAULT FONT 'FIXED'!!!!!!!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHH
[01:38] <Matrikz> lmao
[01:38] <blank> !wireless
[01:38] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:38] <bryanl> don't repeat what i said...
[01:38] <Matrikz> [19:42]  <bryanl> tommy: you could always "sudo apt-get install linux-686"
[01:38] <bryanl> i have no love for assholes
[01:39] <J-_Away> it's weird i updated the system from teh package manager, restart, the computer goes to the log in screen, log in and the background just stays brown with nothing on it
[01:39] <mikeo1> for some messed up reason it was commented out of the fonts alias file
[01:39] <jme> don't stir up a bunch of stupid drama
[01:39] <Tommy> what does that mean?
[01:39] <Tommy> lol
[01:39] <Tommy> Mat
[01:39] <Matrikz> then why are you one bryanl
[01:39] <Matrikz> install 386
[01:39] <ggilbert_> J-_Away: hmm.
[01:39] <Tommy> ok
[01:39] <Matrikz> then open up a terminal
[01:39] <Matrikz> and type that in
[01:39] <jme> knock it off
[01:39] <Tommy> linux-386?
[01:39] <Tommy> ok
[01:39] <Matrikz> install that
[01:39] <Tommy> so install the program
[01:39] <Matrikz> then use apt-get install linux-686
[01:39] <Tommy> then start the computer with new o/s
[01:39] <Matrikz> in terminal as root
[01:39] <Matrikz> yes
[01:39] <Philosophy> ^
[01:40] <Draconicus> There's lots of chaos today, and people with problems can't get help. :\
[01:40] <vir--> hi.. i have a small problem.. i want to install ubuntu using the iso on a partition.. but.. with fedora suse etc you can point grub to the bootfloppies and start the installer with them.. but i cant figure out how to do that with ubuntu.. are there any bootfloppies avaible for ubuntu? or any other solution on how to do a isoinstall
[01:40] <Tommy> and then type "apt-get install linux-686"?
[01:40] <Tommy> okay
[01:40] <Tommy> thanks
[01:40] <Matrikz> yes as su
[01:40] <borntobewild> how can i set my screen resolution to 128*X8**
[01:40] <Tommy> hold on, i will be back in a couple minutes
[01:40] <apokryphos> vir--: /msg ubotu install
[01:40] <m_tadeu> anyone here had problems using synce-serial-start?
[01:40] <apokryphos> borntobewild: /msg ubotu resolution
[01:41] <jme> hey, is there a command to quit X without restarting?
[01:41] <vir--> thanks apokryphos :)
[01:41] <ggilbert_> So my dumb question of the day, is there any way to get the totem-xine-firefox-plugin to register itself for mp3s?
[01:41] <vir--> hey, ctrl alt backspace
[01:41] <ggilbert_> jme:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:41] <apokryphos> jme: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:41] <Tommy> okay, first time i tried installing base system, it had an error that it did nto work b4 i saw kernels
[01:41] <Tommy> now i got to kernels
[01:41] <Draconicus> jme: Killall -9 xserver-xorg :)
[01:41] <borntobewild> apokryphos i'm talkin about ubuntu dude
[01:41] <Tommy> said install linux-386
[01:41] <jme> ctrl alt backspace restarts it
[01:41] <Tommy> and it had same error
[01:41] <apokryphos> vir--: ggilbert_: both of those will restart it.
[01:41] <NickGarvey> jme: killall gdm
[01:41] <mikeo1> whatever package made /etc/X11/fonts/misc/xfonts-base.alias is a dumbass
[01:41] <Draconicus> jme: Yeah... Sorry. What NickGarvey said.
[01:41] <vir--> ctrl alt backspace is the easy one though ;)
[01:41] <ggilbert_> There's several ways to skin that cat :p
[01:41] <mikeo1> fixed was commented out
[01:41] <mikeo1> and causing x errors
[01:41] <NickGarvey> heh
[01:42] <jme> I suppose -- seems a little drastic to go killing stuff!
[01:42] <mikeo1> with that default font fixed shit
[01:42] <Draconicus> vir--: He said without restarting.
[01:42] <jme> I always feel a little guilty
[01:42] <Draconicus> Nautilus has broken. It has simply stopped working correctly. No matter how many times I kill and restart it, it opens with a dead window in the browser, and the desktop won't show up until the browser finishes loading, so that's not there, either. I'm tempted to reboot at this point, but that's something I generally don't do.
[01:42] <apokryphos> jme: use what I said, it's the exact method it would use to stop X on a shutdown
[01:42] <jme> ok
[01:42] <ggilbert_> Though after a bad experience on sunos, I don't recommend people get used to the killall command :p
[01:43] <jme> Draconius: tried reinstalling nautilus?
[01:43] <Draconicus> jme: It's been running fine and hasn't changed. Why should I reinstall it now?
[01:43] <mcphail> ggilbert_: killall sucks on solaris
[01:43] <alexicon> hi again guys
[01:43] <vir--> oh yeah sorry ;)
[01:43] <Tommy> Matrikz
[01:43] <Matrikz> yes?
[01:43] <Tommy> i sent a message to u
[01:43] <jme> apokryphos: could you explain why stopping gdm also quits xserver?
[01:43] <ggilbert_> mcphail: Yeah. I learned that the hard way
[01:43] <Tommy> in a priv chatroom
[01:44] <Matrikz> didnt get it
[01:44] <Tommy> ok
[01:44] <Tommy> *tries again*
[01:44] <alexicon> yesterday i updated from hoary to dapper and now my NIC is gone D:
[01:44] <jvai> hey uall, can the aol dialer work w/ ubuntu?
[01:44] <apokryphos> jme: because GDM is what starts/runs/manages the X-server
[01:44] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools
[01:44] <alexicon> can anyone help me get eth0 back
[01:44] <apokryphos> jme: it's the GNOME display manager
[01:44] <bryanl> ggilbert_: killall -9 can be useful..
[01:44] <jme> oh, alright
[01:44] <jvai> the aol dialer from linspire
[01:44] <alexicon> i think its the kernel module thats gone
[01:44] <jme> I didn't realize GDM ran X - I thought it was the other way around
[01:44] <Tommy> nvm
[01:44] <Tommy> i cant do it
[01:44] <Matrikz> do what?
[01:44] <Tommy> because priv messages are currently blocked
[01:44] <Tommy> due to spam
[01:45] <Draconicus> Ugh. This channel is a mess! I'm just going to reboot the damned thing.
[01:45] <jme> Draconicus: well, if it's broken...
[01:45] <sysdoc> Anyone know the Java runtime package name for FX?
[01:45] <alexicon> anyone else have dapper destroy their NIC?
[01:45] <ggilbert_> bryanl, Yeah. Just a bad experience with an OS where killall works a bit more literally
[01:45] <Matrikz> ahh
[01:45] <Matrikz> type in /msg Matrikz msg
[01:45] <bryanl> ggilbert_: ah... you did it on a sun box, didn't you?
[01:45] <apokryphos> jme: well, yes and no. The graphical part of GDM requires X to start, but GDM calls X to start.
[01:45] <jme> what, it kills everything?
[01:45] <alexicon> !NIC >alexicon
[01:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about NIC
[01:45] <ggilbert_> bryanl: Yup. :p
[01:45] <bryanl> jme: oh yeah
[01:45] <Tommy> doesnt work
[01:45] <Tommy> due to spam
[01:45] <Matrikz> k
[01:45] <alexicon> !eth0 >alexicon
[01:45] <OPENports> Matrikz:sorry
[01:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about eth0
[01:45] <alexicon> ...
[01:45] <apokryphos> jme: trust me, that's the proper way to do it.
[01:45] <Tommy> well, here is my message
[01:46] <Matrikz> why are you appologizing to me OPENports ?
[01:46] <jme> ok
[01:46] <Tommy> i have tried installing base system twice
[01:46] <J-_Away> is there a gui for the 6.06 server?
[01:46] <alexicon> !modprobe >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe
[01:46] <alexicon> dkfjalsdjfla
[01:46] <OPENports> ""will apache host .phpfiles? "" anyone please help?
[01:46] <ggilbert_> bryanl: "Where did the nfs server just go?"
[01:46] <Tommy> the first time, i didnt even get to the kernel screen
[01:46] <bryanl> ggilbert_:  lol
[01:46] <jme> darn you, ubotu
[01:46] <Matrikz> OPENports: it should
[01:46] <ggilbert_> Several good lessons came out of that day.
[01:46] <alexicon> !networking >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[01:46] <Tommy> the second time i got there, and chose a kernel, then it did it again
[01:46] <jme> !seen ubotu
[01:46] <Matrikz> Tommy: are you running from the live cd?
[01:46] <Tommy> so what should i do?
[01:46] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[01:46] <alexicon> !lsmod >alexicon
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about lsmod
[01:46] <alexicon> ffs
[01:46] <Draconicus> OPENports: Ah. You fixed it, sort of! Of course it will. Apache will host any kind of file.
[01:46] <Matrikz> or how are you trying to compile the kernel?
[01:46] <jme> !ffs
[01:46] <Tommy> !seen ubotu
[01:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about ffs
[01:46] <ubotu> ubotu is on IRC right now!
[01:47] <jvai> i have a friend who's on xp, & it's acting up, i want to install ubuntu on it, but she only has dial up thru aol, i want to know if the aol dialer from linspire work on the pc..
[01:47] <jme> !hello
[01:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[01:47] <kbrooks> alexicon: language
[01:47] <apokryphos> !botabuse
[01:47] <OPENports> Matrikz:do you mind helping me?
[01:47] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[01:47] <Matrikz> if i can i will
[01:47] <sysdoc> !java
[01:47] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[01:47] <Tommy> Matrikz: did you get my message?
[01:47] <Matrikz> yea i seen
[01:47] <alexicon> !network device >alexicon
[01:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about network device
[01:47] <Tommy> from this chatroom
[01:47] <jme> jvai: Linspire packages are .debs, so it might work in principle
[01:47] <Matrikz> how are you trying to compile the kernel?
[01:48] <alexicon> !dapper lost nic device
[01:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper lost nic device
[01:48] <kbrooks> alexicon: ask for help
[01:48] <Tommy> Matrikz: how am i trying to compile it? i dunno, i popped in the disk
[01:48] <Tommy> lol
[01:48] <Matrikz> are you running off of the live cd or do you have ubuntu installed to the hard drive?
[01:48] <jme> ok, so we've established ubotu isn't that bright
[01:48] <Matrikz> oh so you are running from the live cd
[01:48] <apokryphos> alexicon: abusing the bot is a quick way to get banned.
[01:48] <jvai> hmmm, i book mark'd a page w/ the tgz file, i may give it a shot..
[01:48] <kbrooks> alexicon: stop abusing the bot
[01:48] <mwe> what is responsible for the progress bar late in the boot when gdm is starting?
[01:48] <Matrikz> just double click on the install icon
[01:48] <Matrikz> on the desktop
[01:48] <jme> !abuse
[01:48] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[01:48] <jvai> thnx @ jme
[01:48] <an0malist> Can someone send me libmp3lame.so?  I ran apt-get and installed Lame but the file doesn't show up anywhere
[01:48] <NickGarvey> an0malist: search for lame in synaptic
[01:49] <Tommy> Matrikz: i put in the install CD that i got from a store
[01:49] <rpedro> an0malist: one sec, please
[01:49] <jme> jvai: Linspire is known for making their packages difficult to find, despite them being GPL, so make sure you can get it
[01:49] <bryanl> i wish that "Printers" in gnome had an option to let you share a printer over ipp... or even configure it in samba
[01:49] <an0malist> rpedro: ok
[01:49] <Tommy> Matrikz: and i got up to base system, and got an error, so i tried again, and i chose a kernel and got the error again
[01:49] <kbrooks> jme: there will be a freespire
[01:49] <jme> eh, should just use ubuntu!
[01:49] <alexicon> yesterday i updated from hoary to dapper, and now i have no eth0 device. any ideas
[01:50] <jvai> http://www.linspire.com/lindows_news_pressreleases_archives.php?id=143
[01:50] <Matrikz> how big is your hard drive Tommy ?
[01:50] <F0LL0W3R> is there any Gui donwload progrman in ubuntu ?
[01:50] <Tommy> 33.8 GB
[01:50] <OPENports> Matrikz:do you mind helping me?
[01:50] <Matrikz> OPENports: give me a minute please
[01:50] <LKRaider> F0LL0W3R: gwget
[01:50] <stefg> !rar
[01:50] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[01:50] <Tommy> Matrikz: at least that is what ubuntu says
[01:50] <jvai> that's what i found @ jme, one of the links on there offered the file
[01:50] <jme> F0LL0W3R: wget sort of has a gui!
[01:50] <Matrikz> did you run qtpartion?
[01:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to repair my grub using the Ubots instructions, It says to boot the cd and at the splash screen boot:... I never get to a boot prompt...
[01:50] <jme> erm, kinda
[01:50] <Draconicus> Frostwire doesn't see the Sun JRE where it's supposed to be installed. Why is this?
[01:50] <rpedro> an0malist: sorry, are you trying to use audacity's export to mp3 function?
[01:50] <Matrikz> Tommy: join #linuxbeginner
[01:50] <Tommy> Matrikz: Umm...yes, i chose the first option
[01:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> It just boots the live cd
[01:51] <Tommy> ok
[01:51] <F0LL0W3R> jme how wget get Gui !
[01:51] <Tommy> i am there
[01:51] <an0malist> rpedro: Yes
[01:51] <OPENports> can anyone help
[01:51] <Tommy> and exiting this room
[01:51] <rpedro> rpedro: I was going to point to a bug report I made, maybe it helps
[01:51] <jme> well, it doesn't really have a gui - but it has a progress bar!
[01:51] <rpedro> an0malist: oh ok
[01:51] <F0LL0W3R> LKRaider thx downloadin in progress :)
[01:51] <jvai> sh may b in luk, since the file is a DEB, she got a contract w/ aol, thru the free coasters :/
[01:51] <sysdoc> !repos
[01:51] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:51] <OPENports> is solaris 10 better than ubuntu?
[01:52] <Draconicus> There are monkeys using Linux. the end is near.
[01:52] <rpedro> an0malist: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/audacity/+bug/51063  , please confirm the bug if you can, and you have a launchpad account
[01:52] <snoops> OPENports depends on your intended purpose..
[01:52] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools,is there a way to do that?
[01:52] <raina> /part
[01:53] <OPENports> i herd solaris kicks ubuntu in the butt
[01:53] <graham> spit
[01:53] <alexicon> solaris is hideous
[01:53] <jme> OPENports: well, it's different
[01:53] <jme> it's not really targeted at desktops
[01:53] <alexicon> its only slightly useful as a multiuser server
[01:53] <alexicon> even then it usually isnt worth the fight
[01:53] <alexicon> get something with decent package management
[01:53] <OPENports> why do companies love it so much i agree it sux
[01:54] <alexicon> man i hate solaris now
[01:54] <jme> well, it's SysV, and it's well-supported
[01:54] <Draconicus> OPENports: You're quick to switch sides.
[01:54] <jme> so there are decent business reasons to use it
[01:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to repair my grub using the Ubots instructions, It says to boot the cd and at the splash screen boot:   ... I never get to a boot: prompt using the live cd
[01:54] <alexicon> only things good about it are zones and dtrace
[01:54] <OPENports> i said what i herd not what i believe
[01:54] <alexicon> otherwise id use linux
[01:54] <mwe> how do you make the progress bar go away while gdm is running?
[01:54] <jme> poor choice for a personal system, of course
[01:55] <jme> mwe: what progress bar?
[01:55] <jme> in GNOME Display Manager?
[01:55] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[01:55] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:55] <OPENports> whtats the advantages for a business?
[01:55] <Draconicus> All the serious problems are being ignored, while all the newbies are getting help. I ask questions whose answers aren't documented elsewhere. I hate to beg for attention, but this is getting ridiculous. :\
[01:55] <mwe> jme: I see a buggy ugly progress bar while gdm is starting up
[01:55] <alexicon> so no one here knows why dapper destroys nic devices??
[01:55] <mwe> jme: well two actually
[01:56] <graham> try man grub
[01:56] <vir--> hm.. i've checked some in the forum and the installguide now.. though nothing really cover what i'm going to do.. (install from iso) is there any way to launch the installer? if i just boot up with with the normal debianfloppyimages.. and mount the iso.. is there any way to manually launch the installer from that?
[01:56] <PacketScan> Draconicus, What is your problem?
[01:56] <jme> OPENports: sysadmins understand more traditional systems like Solaris better, and Sun supports a lot of installations
[01:56] <stefg> most common desktop hardware simply won't run with slowlaris... forget about TV-Cards or even somewhat exotic soundcards... DId i mention printers?
[01:56] <mwe> jme: looks like a bug or sth that's supposed to work with uspash or something
[01:56] <cArNaGe``> http://www.zippyvideos.com/9870693455451936/doopower/*islednxs
[01:56] <OPENports> jma:thanks
[01:56] <cArNaGe``> awesome stuff
[01:56] <jme> yeah, I guess I haven't seen that, mwe
[01:57] <cArNaGe``> http://www.zippyvideos.com/9870693455451936/doopower/*islednxs  check it out
[01:57] <ggilbert_> Draconicus: They generally have easier questions to answer. :)
[01:57] <mwe> jme: well good for you. pray you wont :)
[01:57] <Draconicus> PacketScan: I have two. Which would you rather cover? Nautilus being retarded, or Java not working after Sun JRE was installed from the multiverse repository?
[01:57] <OPENports> i was looking for a tech job and this job in texas was paying 70g for solaris knowledge, is it like debian or what? anyone please answer thank u!
[01:58] <Tommy> Matrikz
[01:58] <Tommy> what is the room again?
[01:58] <Tommy> i accidently closed it
[01:58] <Matrikz> #linuxbeginner
[01:58] <Tommy> ok
[01:58] <neotard> OPENports:  sure, it's unixy :p
[01:58] <mjr> OPENports, it's like debian in only the way that both are *nix-like operating systems, but you apparently shouldn't apply
[01:58] <jme> yeah, you probably won't be able to bluff your way into that!
[01:58] <PacketScan> Draconicus, First Nautilus is always buggy we can work on that. , Java  runtime?  is yes should be installed directly from sun.
[01:59] <PacketScan> Draconicus, what are the issues you are having with nautilus
[01:59] <OPENports> mjr: what bro?
[01:59] <jme> OPENports: they're likely looking for someone with certification and years of administering Solaris systems for hundreds of users
[02:00] <neotard> OPENports:  I think his point was that it's like price.. if you have to ask, you shouldn't bother.
[02:00] <docko> can anyone tell me how to create certificates with openssl?
[02:00] <jme> pretty much, yeah
[02:00] <jme> get an IT cert if you want to do that kind of thing
[02:00] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Well, it was running quite happily for a couple weeks, now. I played with GTK-Gnutella and mplayer off and on during this time. Suddenly it decided to have a seizure, and after I restarted it for the fifth time, it continues to give nothing but a blank window that acts like it's lagging to hell. This, of course, means that I have no desktop as well.
[02:00] <OPENports> screw certifications
[02:00] <bioticpro> How do you extract .ace files in linux?
[02:01] <jme> bioticpro: I think there's an unace utility in the repository
[02:01] <jrib> !ace
[02:01] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> kernel (hd0,6)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7 root=/dev/hda7 nomce psmouse.proto=imps quiet splash=verbose vga=791
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> initrd (hd0,6)/boot/initrd.mepis
[02:01] <borntobewild> i can't set my screen resolution to 1280x800 even i have installed vmware tools,is there a way to do that?
[02:01] <jme> oh, whaddya know
[02:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am trying to edit a brub boot floppy.  My drive is C XP, D Fat32, then a swap partition, then Ubuntu, and another fat32.  What should my grub look like
[02:01] <bioticpro> jrib: thx
[02:01] <snoops> borntobewild why would vmware tools have anything to do with setting screen resolution? Have you installed drivers for your graphics card?
[02:01] <jrib> bioticpro: you may need unace from universe installed for file-roller to work, not sure
[02:02] <PacketScan> Draconicus, Have you cleared your Nautlius Temp files yet?
[02:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can anyone tell me the default 6.06 kernal number?
[02:02] <knoppix_> i screwed my laptop, now cannot even boot windows on my laptop.... can u tell me how to rectify this issue with knoppix live cd...
[02:02] <PacketScan> ~/home/user/.nautlius/
[02:02] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Oh.. No, I haven't. Where are they stored? Is there a command or do I have to wipe the directory with rm -r >
[02:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> !grub
[02:02] <Draconicus> ?*
[02:02] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:02] <graham> borntobewild, what distro you running
[02:03] <PacketScan> Draconicus, right
[02:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Knoppix, did you get that..
[02:03] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Um... That was multiple choice... :P
[02:03] <Tom7e> can anyone tell me the desktop environment shown in this picture:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=41685&file1=41685-1.jpg&file2=41685-2.jpg&file3=&name=gray
[02:04] <jme> Tom7e: GNOME
[02:04] <borntobewild> graham 6.06
[02:04] <graham> ubuntu? try this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[02:04] <Tom7e> it is ?  wasn't the thing at the bottom of the picture?
[02:05] <t4ken> hey
[02:05] <nickwebcouk> sily question - whats the terminal command to show the desktop (minimise windows) im trying to set up win key+m in xbinds..
[02:05] <jme> well, it's a heavily customized GNOME
[02:05] <graham> it will use a prog called debconf to reset your x11 config file
[02:05] <jme> I have no idea what that app is
[02:05] <PacketScan> Draconicus, what's your username?
[02:05] <Draconicus> PacketScan: glitch
[02:05] <an0malist> rpedro: that worked! thanks man
[02:06] <PacketScan> "rm -rf /home/glitch/.nautilus"
[02:06] <Intellig1> Finally got the Live CD working...
[02:06] <Intellig1> I had to remove a secondary graphics card.
[02:06] <graham> once done you will have to restart x - <ctl><alt><backspace>
[02:06] <GreySim> Tom7e, it looks kinda like gimme.
[02:06] <ggilbert_> The bar at the bottom of the window is gimmie
[02:06] <ggilbert_> oh GreySim beat me to it :p
[02:07] <nickwebcouk> anyone?
[02:07] <Tom7e> what is gimmie?  just a load bar?
[02:07] <graham> borntobewild, once done you will have to restart x - <ctl><alt><backspace>
[02:07] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Well, gee, you could have just told me they were in .nautilus. I know my way around. Thanks for the help, though. :)
[02:07] <ggilbert_> Tom7e: there's a bit more to it
[02:07] <ggilbert_> http://www.beatniksoftware.com/gimmie/
[02:07] <nickwebcouk> gimmie looks bnice - mac osx in style-type. :P
[02:07] <Tom7e> thanks
[02:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can anyone tell me the default 6.06 kernal number?
[02:07] <borntobewild> graham: ok now i'm restarting
[02:07] <graham> good luck
[02:08] <F0LL0W3R> heey  i hv mounted a partition by this way /mnt/c n when made downloadin files into the mounted partition it gives me erro message that could be frm the permissions ?should i give that mounted partition to be rwx for all the root the users the groups ?
[02:08] <borntobewild> i think it will work
[02:08] <borntobewild> :)
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Jack_Smirnoff: 2.6.15-25 after all upgrades
[02:08] <PacketScan> Draconicus, you said it was multipul choice  i didn't want you confused :d
[02:08] <ggilbert_> It's still under pretty heavy development though
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> thanks
[02:08] <nickwebcouk> whats the terminal command to show the desktop (minimise windows) im trying to set up win key+m in xbinds.
[02:08] <gnomefreak> Jack_Smirnoff: 2.6.15-23 from installer
[02:08] <Draconicus> PacketScan: :P
[02:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> Can you help me with repairing my grub, I have a Mepis dual boot floppy I am trying to use..
[02:09] <OPENports> screw certifications
[02:09] <Draconicus> PacketScan: Eh... That didn't do it, it seems.
[02:09] <Jenkens> beh
[02:09] <jme> good luck without certs or experience
[02:09] <Jenkens> dapper iso is too big for my 650mb RW's. is there a netinst for it?
[02:09] <ggilbert_> nickwebcouk: Might be able to do it through dbus, but it's not a console command as far as I know.
[02:10] <jvai> anybody heard of "allpeers" for firefox? it's on newforge
[02:10] <MarcN> Jenkens: maybe try the dapper server version.  Then apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:10] <ggilbert_> nickwebcouk: There's a keybindings option under preferences though. That's probably more along the lines of what you'll want
[02:10] <Jenkens> marcn: hrmmm..
[02:11] <nickwebcouk> ggilbert_, my god - why didnt I see that before? lol - thank you! :P
[02:12] <jvai> http://software.newsforge.com/software/06/06/20/1940233.shtml?tid=130&tid=13
[02:12] <borntobewild> graham: it worked thank you very much
[02:12] <graham> you are welcome
[02:12] <jvai> sound like a good way to transer large file like iso's thru the browser
[02:14] <Tom7e> what C compiler do i need to get to compile programs from source?
[02:14] <Draconicus> Wow. Did you guys completely forget about the n64 emulators or what? :P
[02:14] <TeacherTodd813> I'm trying to install on an IBM ThinkCentre M51 (8143, to be exact) and not having much luck. Video dies during install and the screen goes blank with the monitor power light going blinky. Any ideas even of where to look for help?
[02:15] <snoops> jvai time will tell.. I find the download mechanism for firefox to be pretty slow.. so much so I send the file to a download manager to get it quicker
[02:15] <TeacherTodd813> Tom7e: gcc is pretty much the standard C compiler.
[02:15] <graham> Draconicus:  tried ultrahle back in the day
[02:15] <graham> anything newer
[02:15] <Paladine> jvai, sounds like bloatware to me
[02:16] <Tom7e> ok thanks
[02:16] <jolmash> can somebody help me on configure php5 as cgi on apache2?
[02:16] <jvai> true... lol.. it looks like swpyware for firefox, the screenshots r on a xp box
[02:17] <goonies> ok so i copied a bunch of backgrounds from my windows partition over to /usr/share/backgrounds and the images arent displayed through nautilus...heres a screenshot, does anyone have any idea why?
[02:17] <snoops> I'm looking for some presentational software for linux.. umm something to allow me to record the screen (for fast motion), record my voice, and I guess some software similar to ms's powerpoint?
[02:17] <jvai> shame on newsforge, for posting that, shame on me for linking it in here
[02:18] <goonies> http://img405.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7br.png
[02:18] <goonies> i dont know why the pictures arent being displayed
[02:18] <Usunny> snoops try openOffice
[02:18] <__mikem> doesn't open office come with ubuntu
[02:18] <Warbo> snoops: OpenOffice Impress, KOffice and there are a few standalone tools. Istanbul can record the screen, but I think it is broke in Dapper. xvidcap can do it though (gvidcap is a GUI for it)
[02:19] <J-_> abiword is good =D
[02:19] <jvai> yes @ miken
[02:19] <snoops> Usunny okay.. how about the screen capturing and voice recording?
[02:19] <OPENports> anyone with knowledge of apache2 please can u help me?
[02:19] <AdamG_FC6> is there someone in here who can help me with a boot loader issue (pretty straightforward... I just don't how to do it)
[02:19] <mcphail> goonies: nautilus has a setting - it will only preview images under a certain size (in megabytes). You can change this
[02:19] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: What is up?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> I just installed another distro with my (x/)ubuntu comp
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> and it re-did the bootloader, of course
[02:20] <snoops> I've tried istanbul, it seems to half work in ubuntu.. where can I get xvidcap for amd64 (not in the repositories), and umm does xvidcap also have voice recording? Or will I have to use a mishmatch of voice recorder+capture software?
[02:20] <Draconicus> graham: Project64?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> for some reason, it kept _no_ boot options with my xubuntu partition
[02:20] <Draconicus> Anyway, um..
[02:20] <jrib> goonies: how big are the files?
[02:20] <Tom7e> how do i uninstall old kernels?
[02:20] <AdamG_FC6> Basically I don't know how to find the default boot options for ubuntu
[02:20] <Jenkens> blargh
[02:21] <Jenkens> this sucks
[02:21] <Jenkens> no 700mb cd's.
[02:21] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: If you want 2 Linux distros at the same time then the best way is to put one bootloader on a partition and the other on the MBR, then make a chainloader entry to boot the other one (the same way you boot Windows)
[02:21] <spec> I cloned a machine and grub is messing up with "Error 17". When I try to reinstall grub in a chrooted environment, grub-install /dev/hda gives me "The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly."
[02:21] <goonies> jrib, i found out i could see em when im logged in as root
[02:21] <graham> Draconicus: ha forgot a read that, does it work well? q3 only for many years
[02:21] <jrib> goonies: make sure that edit > preferences > preview tab, isn't stopping nautilus from previewing because of the file size
[02:21] <Usunny> snoops hmm don't know, sorry :s
[02:21] <tobberoth> Anyone know of a program which can convert .flac to .mp3?
[02:21] <Draconicus> graham: I dunno. I haven't got it working yet.
[02:22] <goonies> i wonder if things are acting strange cause i activated root
[02:22] <tobberoth> I can only find for mac :(
[02:22] <graham> tobberoth: yup
[02:22] <AdamG_FC6> Warbo: I think that explains it... I put the bootloader on the 2nd partition (the one with the new distro) and the only thing under the Xubuntu partition selection is chainloader
[02:22] <jolmash> can somebody help me on configure php5 as cgi on apache2? pleease!!
[02:22] <jrib> goonies: try ' rm -r ~/.thumbnails/fail/' and reloading the page
[02:22] <Warbo> snoops: I don't think gvidcap/xvidcap do sound. Just Google for them, but I think people have had problems. There is also pyvnc2swf which can make a Flash movie of your desktop if you use x11-vnc to broadcast it to the swf capture tool
[02:22] <AdamG_FC6> but on Xubuntu it stops at Grub 1.5 level- I thought because I hadn't defined a kernel or anything
[02:22] <adamant1988> gah can anyone help me figure out why Quake won't install on my system?
[02:22] <tobberoth> graham: Mind telling me the name of one? ;)
[02:22] <Usunny> jolmash thats not some thing you just do, read all the manuels
[02:23] <graham> you using a deb based system?
[02:23] <Warbo> tobberoth: soundconverter
[02:23] <goonies> lol
[02:23] <goonies> thanks homie
[02:23] <Frankenstein> hi, i cant find any text on this... but about on average how much hdd space does ubuntu take for a regular desktop install
[02:23] <jrib> goonies: np
[02:24] <Warbo> Frankenstein: About 2.5GB I would say (including OpenOffice and stuff)
[02:24] <lostar4545> frankenstein 3Gb i think i could be wrong
[02:24] <jolmash> Usunny: I dont' thing so, When someone ask about something I don't tell them that they must read ALL the manuals, but thanks
[02:24] <Frankenstein> well i have a 2GB hdd! i dont need any office stuff though
[02:24] <goonies> jrib, i take it that has happened to u b4?
[02:25] <Warbo> Frankenstein: Install with the "server" option to get a basic install, then install Xorg and GNOME
[02:25] <graham> Frankenstein:start with a server install only add what you need
[02:25] <TeacherTodd813> Where's the best place to get help about nasty video issues? My screen just blanks on install.
[02:25] <jrib> goonies: yep, happened with some video files before I got the right codecs and nautilus wasn't retrying
[02:25] <Frankenstein> sounds good! so all i need is X and Gnone?
[02:25] <Frankenstein> Xorg is the X server?
[02:25] <goonies> is there a windows codec package for ubuntu?
[02:26] <tobberoth> Warbo: Thanks, this is perfect
[02:26] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about codecs
[02:26] <F0LL0W3R> w32codecs
[02:26] <graham> w32codec or something on multiverse
[02:26] <Warbo> Frankenstein: X is for graphics, and GNOME, KDE and XFCE are desktops (I would recommend XFCE actually, since it is small)
[02:26] <goonies> yeah thats what it was
[02:26] <goonies> i remeber from gentoo
[02:26] <knoppix> help!
[02:26] <goonies> remember*
[02:26] <jrib> knoppix: you need to ask a question for us to try to help you :)
[02:26] <F0LL0W3R> is there any good php editor on ubuntu ?
[02:27] <Frankenstein> well i know i need the X server for the Gnome desktops and what not... but i dont understand what Xorg is... is that stand for the X font server thing
[02:27] <Usunny> !php
[02:27] <jvai> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html win32 codecs
[02:27] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:27] <AskHL> Hello, I use obexftp to transfer stuff from a mobile phone to the computer. How can I transfer multiple files at once, e.g. by recursing through directories?
[02:27] <jrib> F0LL0W3R: vim?
[02:27] <martinoc> what do you guys recommend I do about kernel panics - I can install dapper but cant boot
[02:27] <malachi> How  would I install the new openoffice?
[02:27] <F0LL0W3R> jrib can emaces also be used as editor ?
[02:27] <Warbo> AskHL: I do that with Konqueror
[02:27] <graham> panic :)
[02:27] <knoppix> you know which kernel is running now on ubuntu?
[02:27] <jrib> F0LL0W3R: some claim it can ;)
[02:28] <AskHL> Warbo, thanks. Then maybe Nautilus can do this as well ?
[02:28] <AskHL> Will try
[02:28] <F0LL0W3R> jrib thx alot :)
[02:28] <Warbo> AskHL: I use GNOME, but use Konqueror speciffically for Bluetooth :)
[02:28] <Frankenstein> what is your package manger called?
[02:28] <Frankenstein> how do i call it
[02:28] <Warbo> apt-get
[02:28] <Frankenstein> so apt-get search X would work then?
[02:29] <lophyte> Frankenstein: if you
[02:29] <Warbo> Frankenstein: "apt-cache search" "apt-get install"
[02:29] <lophyte> 'd rather use GUI, you can use synaptic
[02:29] <martinoc> My system boots ok into a Breezy live cd but the dapper kernels just havent worked
[02:29] <StFS> hello... can anyone help me with changing wireless network card drivers? I have an IBM T30 and out of the box it used orinoco... but I've had no luck with getting that to connect so I want to try hostap
[02:29] <Warbo> Frankenstein: "apt-get install xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop" should do it
[02:29] <Tom7e> how do i uninstall old kernels?
[02:29] <knoppix> jrib: please, do you know which kernel is running now on ubuntu?
[02:30] <AskHL> Warbo, Konqueror depends on half of KDE! That's just not an option, I have limited harddisk space :(
[02:30] <Warbo> lophyte: Trying to install X with Synaptic? What a great idea
[02:30] <lophyte> ahh, didn't catch that part :)
[02:30] <goonies> mplayer is obsolete?
[02:30] <MarcN> Warbo: konqueror for bluetooth? what?
[02:30] <lophyte> goonies: since when?
[02:30] <Warbo> MPlayer, VLC, Xine and Gstreamer are all seperate options. Depends on what you like
[02:30] <jrib> knoppix: 2.6.15-25 is what I have now
[02:30] <Frankenstein> k thanks guys! wish me luck
[02:30] <goonies> i typed apt-get install mplayer
[02:31] <tobberoth_> hmm, I got the following error when I started soundconverter, how do I fix it? "LAME GStreamer plugin not found, desactivating MP3 output."
[02:31] <AskHL> Warbo, how do you access that kind of stuff in konqueror? Is there some magical string like network:/// or file:///, just different?
[02:31] <jrib> goonies: you need to enable multiverse first, are you familiar with how to do that?
[02:31] <Warbo> goonies: apt-get install mplayer-386 (or whatever your system is) I think
[02:31] <F0LL0W3R> how can i change the perimssion of folder ? sudo chmod 777 folder_name ?
[02:31] <jvai> goonies just dl the essential-2006xxx from the link
[02:31] <goonies> jrib, yes i have done that
[02:31] <Timir> Hey, can linux support 2 ethernet cards fairly well and feed internet out through the secondary card?
[02:31] <Warbo> AskHL: There is a bluetooth section in the sidebar (under Services I think)
[02:31] <AskHL> Warbo, thanks.
[02:31] <Draconicus> Ah... Hell with this.
[02:31] <lophyte> Timir: yup.. if you use the firewall, its easy to do
[02:31] <jrib> goonies: what did apt-get say exactly?
[02:32] <jvai> u can make totem do just about what wmp can do, i did on hoary
[02:32] <knoppix> I need Kernel 2.6.8-2-386 does it means that I have to touch my kernel?
[02:32] <goonies> got a paste site?
[02:32] <Timir> lophyte: how do you mean?
[02:32] <goonies> oh in the topic
[02:32] <Warbo> AskHL: I logged into KDE a while ago and everything bluetooth started automatically when the desktop came up, I even forgot my dongle was in actually. KDE bluetooth is miles ahead of GNOME
[02:32] <graham> knoppix: not literally :)
[02:32] <lophyte> Timir: I believe firestarter can do an "internet connection sharing" type thing.. is that what you're trying to do?
[02:33] <TeacherTodd813> One more time: I run the install disk on a standard, run-of-the-mill IBM tower and I never get to the installer. The whole screen just blanks. I've already googled lots, found something that told me how to bring up the terminal, suggested I try "dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver", which I did and that didn't help any. Is there a good place to go to figure out what to do?
[02:33] <malachi> How  would I install the new OpenOffice that came out today?
[02:33] <lophyte> a new openoffice came out today?
[02:33] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: 1) It is xserver-xorg 2) Try the alternate disc
[02:33] <adamant1988> really?
[02:33] <Timir> lophyte: Exactly what I'm trying to do, but is that for all flavors of linux?
[02:33] <malachi> 2.0.3
[02:34] <malachi> It's on the main page.
[02:34] <malachi> www.openoffice.org =] 
[02:34] <pc1> hola
[02:34] <lophyte> Timir: I don't have any real experience with firestarter, but I know it can be done easily in Ubuntu... on other flavours, you'd have to do it manually with iptables/ipchains or find some other software to do it
[02:34] <pc1> chicos  de 18 para arriba
[02:34] <goonies> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16798
[02:34] <jrib> !es
[02:34] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:34] <jvai> lmao.. um, i need to upgrade from hoary!
[02:34] <knoppix> I have a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet, will I need a Kernel 2.6.8.2-386?
[02:34] <Warbo> Timir: IP Masquerading must be set up on the machine with the Internet. Firestarter can do this (you don't even need to keep it running). Then the Gateway must be set on the machines which you want to give the connection to
[02:35] <jrib> ubotu: tell jvai about upgrade
[02:35] <AskHL> Warbo, actually I just want a simple text interface which supports copying multiple files, I don't need a lot of fancy stuff. I can copy the files one by one using obexftp but there's no example in the man page about multiple files...
[02:35] <jvai> lol
[02:35] <pc1> ok
[02:35] <adamant1988> can someone help me install this software from disk?
[02:35] <AskHL> ...and there's no "obvious" solution (i.e. "*")
[02:35] <Timir> Warbo: Is that fairly easy and quick?
[02:35] <adamant1988> I'm trying to install quake and it's telling me my permissions are denied despite the fact I'm running the installer as sudo
[02:36] <blacktears> is it possible to add a sound event?
[02:36] <Warbo> Timir: Yes. Firestarter starts with a wizard-like interface. The Gateway is set when you enter your IP address in System>Administration>Networking
[02:36] <jrib> goonies: you have dapper-backports multiverse, but not dapper multiverse.  run 'gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' and add the word " multiverse" to the end of every line that contains "universe" but not "multiverse"
[02:36] <Timir> Warbo: This box is using Mandrake 10.1, I'm asking here because the freggin #Mandriva channel is dead in the water
[02:37] <jrib> goonies: after you save, just run 'sudo apt-get update' and try mplayer again.  For w32codecs, you need special instructions, which the bot will send you now...
[02:37] <jrib> ubotu: tell goonies about w32codecs
[02:37] <Warbo> Timir: The actual programs which sort this out are a core part of every Linux system, so there is no trouble there. Firestarter makes it easy to set up, and is available in oretty much every distro
[02:38] <malachi> So....................
[02:38] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: The alternate disk might be the solution? I wasn't doing anything it says to use it for...
[02:38] <goonies> the bot hasnt been sending me any info
[02:38] <malachi> Anyone able to tell me how to install the new OpenOffice?
[02:38] <goonies> uve typed it a couple times for me but it hasnt told me squat =P
[02:38] <lophyte> malachi: gimme a sec... I wanna install it too :)
[02:38] <jrib> !w32codecs
[02:38] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[02:38] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The alternate disc gives a text-only installer. If your graphics aren't wrking then it is a good idea to use it
[02:38] <AdamG_FC6> is there perhaps a liveCD for boot loader installs/fixes
[02:38] <tobberoth_> This is BS, soundconverter won't find my LAME plugin even if I have gstreamer-plugins-ugly installed!
[02:38] <goonies> there ya go
[02:39] <Cainus> hey...anyone know why I would be able to hit http://[my ip address]  from the local machine, but not from another machine that can ping the first machine?  does ubuntu have a default firewall or anything I should be aware of?
[02:39] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: All LiveCDs have a text editor, and "grub-install /dev/devicename" will reinstall GRUB
[02:39] <NickGarvey> Cainus: is it a local IP?
[02:39] <Cainus> nick: yep
[02:39] <AdamG_FC6> Warbo, thx
[02:39] <Timir> Warbo: Is there any way I can run the internet straight through it like a hub, while keeping some internet ability on this box?
[02:39] <jvai> peavc erbody, i'm ghost
[02:40] <knoppix> Is there someone who has used a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet?
[02:40] <Warbo> Timir: That exactly what I described
[02:40] <PacketScan> draconius, har ar
[02:40] <AdamG_FC6> warbo: That won't mess up my other data in the partition?
[02:40] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Which means I'll be back trying to figure out how to get graphics working on my new install? I guess that's progress... :-)
[02:40] <Timir> Warbo: hm, do you happen to know the commands to? Or can I download and run firestarter on this mandrake box?
[02:40] <lophyte> malachi: did you download it directly from their site, or did you use bittorrent?
[02:41] <malachi> Direct, lophyte.
[02:41] <malachi> Need a link?
[02:41] <Cainus> so... no default firewall guys? :\
[02:41] <Warbo> AdamG_FC6: Installing GRUB to a partition won't screw up any data, and neither will the MBR. The only thing you might screw is GRUB, in which case try installing it again :)
[02:41] <lophyte> dang.. its going slow when I download it directly
[02:41] <lophyte> got a fast link?
[02:41] <malachi> Let me see...
[02:41] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The alternate CD has NO graphics. That is the point
[02:41] <malachi> http://ftp-atl.osuosl.org/pub/openoffice/stable/2.0.3/OOo_2.0.3_LinuxIntel_install.tar.gz
[02:41] <AdamG_FC6> okay, thanks warbo
[02:41] <malachi> lophyte: That's the one I used
[02:42] <lophyte> malachi: excellent :)
[02:42] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Put then how will I get GNOME running on the new install?
[02:42] <lophyte> malachi: gimme a couple of minutes to download it and check it out
[02:42] <Warbo> Timir: Install Firestarter on the box to be the "hub" (I am assuming the Mandrake one) then when you set up your network on the other machine/s put in the IP address of the "hub" in the Gateway field
[02:42] <graham> tobberoth_: is it gst-register ?
[02:43] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: Erm... By installing Ubuntu? It is the CD which has no graphcics
[02:43] <lophyte> malachi: you uninstalled your old one, right?
[02:43] <malachi> Nope.
[02:43] <RodrigoX> please, whats the difference between apt-get and aptitude?
[02:43] <lophyte> ahh.. start there first :)
[02:43] <Warbo> TeacherTodd813: The CDs have a harder time of graphics, since you can't save any kind of config for them, they have to be generic and read-only
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte: Haven't installed the new one yet, so until I do, the old one's gonna stay.
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Right. But if the install CD is having trouble with the graphics settings, isn't the new install likely to as well? Or is it going to be smarter and have more drivers and such?
[02:44] <Timir> Warbo: Happen to know where I can get firestarter? And will that work with a router?
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: Oh, OK.
[02:44] <lophyte> you can always reinstall it if the new one is weird
[02:44] <lophyte> though
[02:44] <TeacherTodd813> Warbo: That makes sense.
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte But...I don't want to side-install
[02:44] <tobberoth_> graham: Well, it seems i HAD to download gstreamer-0.8-Lame
[02:44] <malachi> Yeah, I might do that.
[02:44] <malachi> lophyte: Shouldn't it overwrite?
[02:44] <Warbo> soundconverter uses 0.8 I think. Needs an update
[02:45] <lophyte> it might cause problems.. tar.gz file from openoffice.org isn't specific to any distro.. whereas the openoffice that comes with ubuntu is specific to ubuntu
[02:45] <cappicard> poo... is mythtv still fubar regarding mysql 5?
[02:45] <lophyte> I'm going to uninstall my old one first.. if the new one is weird, I'll just reinstall 2.0.2
[02:46] <graham> K
[02:46] <Timir> Brb, gotta reboot and install the card
[02:46] <noway-> I just did, apt-get install ruby  .... but it won't let me use the interactive sessions! (irb)
[02:47] <navilon_> is there a way to tell apt to delete sources that no longer exist?
[02:47] <malachi> lophyte: Okay. I guess I'll do the same...
[02:47] <malachi> I seem to have disconnected....
[02:47] <Warbo> navilon_: just do it manually (sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list)
[02:47] <knoppix> I should like to install an Ubuntu Server on my machine but I onli have a I have a NetXtreme BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet but at less Knoppix does not recognise my ethernet, will Ubuntu recognise it?
[02:48] <navilon_> i know, but i have so many and it would take quite a while to pick out each one
[02:48] <Warbo> knoppix: Just have a go, and if it doesn't then come back. Something so specific is unlikely to get a response, especially since you don't actually have a problem at the moment
[02:49] <megatronnn> anyone have a working install of wine?
[02:49] <Warbo> megatronnn: yes
[02:49] <malachi> lophyte: How's it going?
[02:50] <lophyte> malachi: I got some errors uninstalling it.. did you too?
[02:50] <megatronnn> @war have any tutorials or anything?
[02:50] <jme> !wine
[02:50] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[02:50] <knoppix> I'm sorry. Thanks. Bye!
[02:50] <jme> that has some good links
[02:50] <malachi> lophyte: No, did you uninstall through Synaptics?
[02:50] <lophyte> yeah.. I got it uninstalled, I just had to tinker wiht it
[02:50] <Warbo> megatronnn: Actually I am a pacifist. "Warbo" is an abbrieviation of my surname :)
[02:51] <malachi> lophyte: I'm wondering if "alien -i *.rpm" will do the installation trick.
[02:51] <lophyte> ahh, yeah, I see its all rpms..
[02:51] <Warbo> I think I have seen RPM in Ubuntu. Does this mean that they can be used natively (although it would be a bad idea) or is it just a dependency of alien?
[02:52] <lophyte> you can use RPM on any distro natively... its just a bad idea due to the filesystem structure and such
[02:53] <jme> yeah, you don't want to be using apt and rpm on the same system, because they won't play nice
[02:53] <lophyte> yup
[02:53] <Warbo> OK, I was just curious at what problems you would get with a dual system (surely the RPM database would not contain the DEB entries, so it would try to install everything itself and overwrite/conflict with the DPKG files)
[02:53] <neotard> need a single package system, have for years :)  too bad distros can't agree on things.
[02:54] <lophyte> well, RPMs are constructed for RedHat-based distributions.. the filesystem structure, the configuration, etc.
[02:54] <jme> exactly - you'd have different packages referring to the same files
[02:54] <lophyte> whereas DEBs are constructed for Debian-based distros
[02:54] <Warbo> neotard: I don't know about the "autopackage" things. People say they are the future but I hate the idea of them
[02:54] <malachi> There seems to be an RMPS folder containing a bunch of suspicious pacakages...
[02:54] <cius> we need a Fellowship of the Packages
[02:54] <neotard> cius:  lol
[02:54] <auk> cuis: YES
[02:54] <goonies> great mplayer is retarted
[02:54] <lophyte> malachi: I'm just gonna use alien
[02:55] <Warbo> goonies: Then use VLC :)
[02:55] <ehnoixx> The freenode IRC server is wrong on the Ubuntu support home page
[02:55] <neotard> why would you use an rpm package?  is it something you can't find as a deb?
[02:55] <auk> the major distros need to get together and standardize a package format
[02:55] <ehnoixx> There shows irc.freenode.net lol
[02:55] <lophyte> neotard: new version of openoffice only comes in RPMs
[02:56] <Warbo> neotard: I think the only RPMs that are *needed* are non-free ones, since you can always checkinstall source code
[02:56] <neotard> lophyte:  just out of curiousity.. why upgrade?  I don't want to cut your legs out from under you, but is it necessary? :)
[02:56] <mjr> auk, they actually have, LSB requires support for an old version of RPM (which is covered in debian/ubuntu via alien)
[02:56] <goonies> i installed w32codecs, as well as put the essential package in /usr/local/lib/codecs like the readme told me to and all it does is open the file for a second and closes
[02:56] <lophyte> neotard: no particular reason :P
[02:56] <malachi> lophyte: Oh crap! I just fquit
[02:56] <Warbo> auk: The filesystem needs to be sorted out first (all of the runlevel crap which differs wildly) but I think freedesktop and LSB are sorting this
[02:56] <malachi> Er.......
[02:57] <lophyte> malachi: what?
[02:57] <neotard> lophyte:  just be careful.  start screwing with package system and you can seriously fubar a system
[02:57] <malachi> lophyte: Sorry, that was going to say Oh Crap! I just realized uninstalling OO.org removed ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <lophyte> it did?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: its ok
[02:57] <Warbo> goonies: Did you install an MPlayer package?
[02:57] <auk> yeah
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: ubuntu-desktop can be removed
[02:57] <malachi> gnomefreak: What's the purpose of it?
[02:57] <dooglus> malachi: ubuntu-desktop is an empty package.  it just depends of everything else
[02:57] <goonies> i installed mplayer by apt-get install mplayer
[02:57] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[02:57] <ubotu> k/e/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[02:57] <gnomefreak> malachi: to install packages
[02:57] <neotard> malachi:  it's just a placeholder package
[02:58] <malachi> Ah....phew
[02:58] <Warbo> goonies: Then try putting the codecs in /usr/lib/codecs (local is used for source code builds)
[02:58] <kleedrac> Can oo.o print business cards?
[02:58] <megatronnn> yeah
[02:58] <gnomefreak> its used to bring in a buch of packages but removing it doesnt remove the packages
[02:58] <megatronnn> set margins
[02:58] <gnomefreak> kleedrac: yes but havent worked on it yet
[02:58] <lophyte> neotard: what about using alien to convert RPMs to DEBs then installing from that?
[02:58] <Warbo> Don't run deborphan after removeiing ubuntu-desktop :)
[02:59] <kleedrac> gnomefreak: Sweet ... all I needed to know :)
[02:59] <malachi> lophyte: That's what I thought would be best...
[02:59] <Savage> test
[02:59] <lophyte> malachi: I'm converting them to debs right now
[02:59] <neotard> lophyte:  still run into directory structure issues.. plus your dependencies are awkward
[02:59] <lophyte> yeah, that's true
[03:00] <Savage> what does: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off, mean? it keeps giving me this error
[03:00] <neotard> lophyte:  it's just an rpm masquerading as a deb
[03:00] <lophyte> damn RPMs.
[03:00] <neotard> lophyte:  your best bet is to unpack the rpm, then build a deb :)
[03:00] <Warbo> neotard: I'm using a small screen here and I thought you said "it's dependencies are abiword" which would be ironic :)
[03:00] <goonies> Warbo, still the same, i open it, and as soon as mplayer opens it closes
[03:01] <malachi> lophyte: Hm...after poking around in the RPMs, it seems that they're going to be installed to the /opt directory.
[03:01] <malachi> Good good...
[03:01] <neotard> Warbo:  freudian slip?  under windows I use OO all the time, but 99% of the features I use there are covered by Abiword, which is tons faster than OOWriter
[03:01] <Warbo> goonies: What happens when you run gmplayer from a console (should give an error message)
[03:01] <lophyte> malachi: yeah, I just saw that too..
[03:01] <DonL> Hi
[03:01] <lophyte> malachi: if its being installed under /opt then it shouldn't be a problem
[03:01] <malachi> I wish there was a "sytem restore" in ubuntu...so I'd feel safer about screwing up....
[03:02] <azcazandco> hello people
[03:02] <Warbo> neotard: I think OOo is good for, for example, making a mailmerge containing your database entries and their financial details from your spreadsheet. For plain word processing Abiword is great
[03:02] <malachi> Greetings.
[03:02] <lophyte> I used KOffice for a while for that reason, neotard
[03:02] <azcazandco> can anyone tell me how to go about installing kde into ubuntu?
[03:02] <malachi> Kubuntu?
[03:02] <lophyte> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:02] <azcazandco> and also is it possible to upgrade the kernel to 64bit?
[03:02] <neotard> azcazandco:  what malachi said
[03:03] <azcazandco> I have ubuntu installed ...d o ihave to install a big thing for kubuntu also?
[03:03] <neotard> lophyte:  yeah, koffice is great.. too bad qt looks like ass under gnome :)
[03:03] <lophyte> indeed
[03:03] <neotard> azcazandco:  kde is a big thing
[03:03] <DonL> azcazandco, it will take a while
[03:03] <Savage> what does: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off, mean? it keeps giving me this error
[03:03] <jme> getting kubuntu-desktop is annoying, because it adds the dumb kubuntu splash screen
[03:03] <azcazandco> ubuntu 6.06 is soooooooo much nicer than earlier versions
[03:04] <jme> concur
[03:04] <DonL> me too
[03:04] <neotard> azcazandco:  like gnome, kde has tons of dependencies that are covered under kbuntu-desktop
[03:04] <OPENports> screw certifications
[03:04] <__mikem> Lasttime I tried it, installing kubuntu-desktop on my computer only took about 3-5 minutes
[03:04] <OPENports> which intrusion detection sysr
[03:04] <DonL> What do you folks use for streaming video. I have to get that set up.
[03:04] <azcazandco> so any help in times to come is appreciated
[03:04] <Warbo> neotard: I have found a nice theme set for QT, GTK+ and E16 now so everything looks integrated
[03:04] <OPENports> which intrusion detection system should i use?
[03:04] <goonies> Warbo, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16800
[03:04] <jme> __mikem: you might have had most of the packages already
[03:04] <biscon> currently running gnome since I like to say once in a while. gonna get back to kde though, the underlying technology is simply more interesting imho. but there are things I really like about gnome as well
[03:05] <biscon> and its gotten faaast lately
[03:05] <neotard> Warbo:  wish I could settle!  I change my theme sometimes three or four times in a day :D
[03:05] <riddlebox> if
[03:05] <jme> but kubuntu includes a hell of a lot of packages
[03:05] <riddlebox> if I have a machine that used to have lvm on it, how do I get rid of that for dapper install?
[03:05] <azcazandco> is it worth getting kubuntu?
[03:05] <jme> in peoples' experience, does Kubuntu have the polish that vanilla Ubuntu has?
[03:05] <Warbo> goonies: Go in it's preferences and change the video output
[03:06] <__mikem> PErsonally, xubuntu is my favorite out of the three, but thats only because kubuntu doesn't do kde justice
[03:06] <lophyte> malachi: I'm just gonna go for it
[03:06] <azcazandco> what is xubuntu?
[03:06] <Savage> what does: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off, this mean?
[03:06] <malachi> neotard: You do know you can make qt look better, right?
[03:06] <bcron> Im on xubuntu and Im loving it
[03:06] <DonL> for me, I like the simpicity and beauty of Gnome. Kde seem to be too glitzy. I don't need bouncing icons (my choice though)
[03:06] <goonies> Warbo, what should i change it too
[03:06] <neotard> did kde remove the macintosh toolbar ripoff?  I installed kde some time ago expressly for that nifty feature, but be damned if I could find it.
[03:06] <goonies> anything?
[03:06] <__mikem> azcazandco it is ubuntu + xfce
[03:06] <azcazandco> which mean what to the layman
[03:06] <Warbo> Kubuntu seems to be the standard KDE distro these days. Whenever I see a review of something KDE it is always done in Kubuntu
[03:06] <neotard> really hate how kde crams billions of options into billions of control panels.
[03:06] <lophyte> I agree with DonL
[03:07] <azcazandco> different interface?
[03:07] <jme> I really didn't like Xubuntu, because it seemed to lack a lot of the nice polish that makes Ubuntu nice
[03:07] <Warbo> goonies: What is it at the moment?
[03:07] <goonies> xv
[03:07] <spades> azcazandco ubuntu using xfce as the desktop environment, check out http://www.xfce.org
[03:07] <Warbo> goonies: Ah, change it to X11
[03:07] <jme> Doesn't FC come with KDE by default?
[03:07] <neotard> xfce is a great desktop
[03:07] <__mikem> IF you want a good kde distro, check out linspire, suse, mepis, or knoppix
[03:07] <goonies> =)
[03:07] <goonies> thanks
[03:07] <malachi> neotard, and the rest of you who think qt looks ugly beyond all reason: http://ubuntuos.com/2006/02/installing-skype
[03:07] <lophyte> Ubuntu looks great compared to Kubuntu.. I only wish it had a few more options for customizability
[03:07] <__mikem> jme no, but you can get it
[03:08] <Savage> any one want to tell me what this line of code means: /bin/sh: can't access tty, job control turned off
[03:08] <DonL> I'd keep a close eye on xfce. It looks nice and it's improving in leaps and bounds
[03:08] <neotard> malachi:  lol, it's not that kde looks ugly, or qt rather.  it's that when you run gnome, configuring qt AND gtk limits your options.
[03:08] <jme> savage, try googling it
[03:08] <bcron> azcazandco, In linux the windows environment isn't as tied to the system as it is in Windows so you have choices of how many bells and whistle you want in your interface
[03:08] <azcazandco> is xfce quick to install?
[03:08] <__mikem> XFCE is already superior to gnome. IT does everything gnome does and with less overhead
[03:08] <azcazandco> bcron: vcool
[03:09] <Warbo> goonies: That is the first thing I have to do with MPlayer, I don't know why it osn't default (I was going to say "X11" but I needed to know that you weren't already using it, since the error message was complaining about X11)
[03:09] <jme> __mikem: really? it sure didn't seem as nice to me
[03:09] <neotard> malachi:  quite frankly, I think qt is a better desktop toolset.  but kde as a desktop environment is just too much unecessary complexity.
[03:09] <Savage> jme: i did i get like a bunch of results but yet to find one with the same problem im having
[03:09] <azcazandco> can i just use the graphical installer then?
[03:09] <jme> I kinda think Xubuntu should have gone with fluxbox
[03:09] <lophyte> Fubuntu? hehe.
[03:09] <__mikem> jme guess its a matter of oppinion
[03:09] <jme> yep
[03:09] <neotard> malachi:  although, as a java programmer I love gtk :)  the gtk java bindings are WAY better than qt
[03:10] <__mikem> Ubuntu kubuntu and xubuntu are REAL WORDS though
[03:10] <dli> jme, fluxbox is good
[03:10] <snoops> __mikem no point trying to start an argument about window managers..
[03:10] <spades> jme google nubutu
[03:10] <spades> nubuntu*
[03:10] <bcron> azcazandco, for a long time there were KDE and Gnome and they were like Pepsi and Coke... there are light ones like xfce and fluxbox but they were underpowered in comparison.  I love this new xubuntu because it's all the speed of a lightweight but it doesn't seem to sacrifice anything
[03:10] <Warbo> Everyone knows Explorer is the best, since it is the most popular :)
[03:10] <__mikem> snoops I have no intention on doing that
[03:10] <lophyte> eww explorer
[03:10] <lophyte> :P
[03:10] <DonL> Anybody have any favourites for video streaming?
[03:10] <jme> haha, nubuntu.org returns a 509 Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
[03:10] <lophyte> malachi: I'm not sure if I wanna go ahead and install this from RPMs..
[03:10] <Warbo> "Windows is the most popular OS in the world" No, it is the mot USED OS.
[03:11] <jme> makes me real confident
[03:11] <neotard> Warbo:  one thing you can count on in explorer is compatibility at least :)
[03:11] <lophyte> Warbo: agreed.
[03:11] <__mikem> COmparing xfce and fluxbox is like apples and oranges, xfce is light weight, but it is not just a window manager like fluxbox, its an entire de
[03:11] <bcron> A guy at work showed me IE7 and he was wigging out about the tabbed browsing...
[03:11] <lophyte> bcron: hahaha
[03:11] <spades> jme it is close to end of the month, dont blame them for conserving bandwidth
[03:11] <dli> __mikem, yes, and xfce is much more buggier
[03:12] <Warbo> bcron: If only I could use tabbed browsing. Tell you what, why not put it on text editors and terminals and stuff too, or am I just being silly?
[03:12] <snoops> DonL vlc has done a good job of video streaming for me
[03:12] <__mikem> dli xubuntu is currentlyusing a beta release of xfce, so saying that isn't really fair
[03:12] <azcazandco> I saw chris wilson talking at @media and he was actually quite interesting
[03:12] <jme> hehe, well it'd be nice if I could access the site!
[03:12] <bcron> I don't catch your meaning
[03:12] <malachi> lophyte: Me neither.....I'm waiting on you ;)
[03:12] <lophyte> malachi: haha
[03:12] <__mikem> great looks like I did start a desktop war
[03:12] <witless> hi.  what's the easiest-to-set-up-and-use http / https proxy server in ubuntu's archives?
[03:12] <__mikem> :(
[03:12] <DonL> snoops, thanks. I haven't tried that one yet. Does it do Quicktime and Windows Media Player?
[03:13] <Warbo> DonL: Usually
[03:13] <dli> __mikem, the release from xfce.org
[03:13] <snoops> umm it'll do wmv if yo have the win32 codecs DonL, and umm not sure about quicktime
[03:13] <biscon> Savage: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+ticket/173
[03:13] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need help rebuilding my grub.  The Ubuntu help at !grub were worse than USLESS they were a waste of time.
[03:13] <lophyte> malachi: alrighty.. here goes, I'm gonna start with alien -iv openoffice.org-core*.rpm
[03:13] <dli> DonL, I use squid, don't know whether it's easy or not
[03:13] <jme> VLC does everything with the right codecs
[03:13] <__mikem> dli, I forget, I just read it somewhere
[03:13] <azcazandco> what was the answer to can I switch to 64bit without reinstalling ubuntu
[03:13] <jme> you can get 'em from multiverse
[03:13] <Warbo> VLC uses it's own system doesn't it? I've never needed codecs for it before (except on Windows)
[03:13] <__mikem> dli but lets stopp debating this, this really isn't the place
[03:13] <jme> lophyte: why are you doing that?
[03:13] <neotard> azcazandco:  you cannot switch out a kernel w/o rebooting :)
[03:14] <DonL> Ok. dli That's a new one on me. Hadn't heard of squid
[03:14] <jme> I thought it was possible somehow to switch kernels
[03:14] <lophyte> jme: doing what?
[03:14] <Savage> gah why wont ubuntu install its pissing me off
[03:14] <neotard> DonL:  aka calamari
[03:14] <jme> installing rpms
[03:14] <azcazandco> yeah but i could get the 64bit kernel, install and reboot?
[03:14] <lophyte> because there's no other packages
[03:14] <snoops> Warbo I believe for most codecs it does (opensource ones).. for legal reasons I believe it can't package wmv or quicktime/realplayer etc
[03:14] <DonL> jme, I've got the codecs. Should work I guess
[03:14] <mikeo1> whats up with nvidia drivers
[03:14] <biscon> Savage: check the link I pasted.. that guy had the same error due the bootloader looking on the wrong hd
[03:14] <neotard> azcazandco:  supposing you have 64bit architecture, I'd assume so.  still a 32bit person myself :)
[03:14] <__mikem> azcazandco the 64 bit kernel won't work without the other 64 bit packages
[03:14] <mikeo1> glxgears is going at less than 1fps
[03:15] <Warbo> I heard VLC got itself a free WMV9 codec thanks to DVDJohn
[03:15] <azcazandco> i have an amd64bit 3200
[03:15] <mikeo1> with the nvidia drivers in the repos
[03:15] <Jymmm> I can't disable the inboard video, only select which is primary in BIOS. The PCI video card does display during POST, and even during boot. But when it gets to starting X it chokes. Can I at least disable gui login, then figure out wth is goin on ?
[03:15] <azcazandco> 2gb ram
[03:15] <neotard> azcazandco:  the install should configure grub for you though, so when you restart the new kernel should appear in the grub menu.
[03:15] <jme> mikeo1: you're using hardware accel?
[03:15] <snoops> oh really Warbo? Awesome!
[03:15] <mikeo1> i think so
[03:15] <jme> well, it ain't working!
[03:15] <azcazandco> am i running b4 i can walk here?
[03:15] <bluemoon> Hello, i installed two conflicting packages and now ubuntu(apt-get) wont let me do anything with apt-get till it is resolved.. how would i accomplis this?
[03:15] <mikeo1> i have nvidia enabled, and i see the logo when x starts
[03:15] <Jack_Smirnoff> Jymmm what motherboard will NOT let you disable onboard video?
[03:15] <Warbo> snoops: That was news from a while ago, and it referred to the CVS. I don't know if it ever got put into upstream properly
[03:16] <DonL> Well, thanks for the hints, people. I'm off to try a couple things.
[03:16] <biscon> mikeol: what does glxinfo | grep OpenGL says?
[03:16] <Jymmm> Jack_Smirnoff: Intel CA810e
[03:16] <jme> there's honestly not that much benefit to 64-bit, azcazandco
[03:16] <Warbo> mikeo1: "glxinfo | grep direct"
[03:16] <witless> anyone care to recommend a http / https proxy server in ubuntu's archives?
[03:16] <dli> bluemoon, remove one or both
[03:16] <lophyte> malachi: I don't want *all* of the packages, so I'm doing them one by one, starting with the core
[03:16] <neotard> witless:  apache2 :)
[03:16] <azcazandco> jme: thanks for the honesty
[03:16] <dli> witless, squid
[03:16] <bluemoon> dli, i tried but it just gave the same error
[03:16] <riddlebox> how would I blow away lvm that was on my machine or use the lvm in the dapper install?
[03:16] <jme> hehe
[03:16] <dli> witless, sorry, you mean server :( squid is for proxy
[03:16] <snoops> I'm using 64bit ubuntu.. and while I really like it.. so many things like flash are 32bit still..
[03:16] <azcazandco> k i gotta restart... just updated everything after my install
[03:16] <Warbo> riddlebox: Graphical installer doesn't do LVM I don't think.
[03:17] <jme> basically, you'll only get a speed benefit if code is optimized for 64-bit
[03:17] <dli> bluemoon, pastebin your command line and error message
[03:17] <bluemoon> ok
[03:17] <bcron> #cups
[03:17] <neotard> jme:  he'll be able to address all his memory if he has that much :)
[03:17] <azcazandco> jme: is there much 64bit stuff out there for ubuntu?
[03:17] <mikeo1> that i have gf4 integrated graphics
[03:17] <azcazandco> also ...w hat is the scoop with XLG as that shit looks fun
[03:17] <bcron> forgot the /j ... :p
[03:17] <jme> azcazandco: not really, though I believe some programs like mplayer have some 64-bit extensions
[03:17] <zealot> anyone know what the latest one of quinn's compiz updates messed up?
[03:18] <jme> it's more of a toy right now
[03:18] <mikeo1> hmmm
[03:18] <azcazandco> yes nice lookin toy
[03:18] <riddlebox> Warbo, the problem is that I cannot even get the graphical installer to overwrite the lvm
[03:18] <zealot>  the latest compiz package removed compiz-gnome and took away gnome-window-decorator
[03:18] <biscon> zealot: it works fine here
[03:18] <Warbo> XGL is only useful with Compiz, and I don't like it since it is too much like Metacity
[03:18] <jme> mikeo1, are you sure the driver supports that card?
[03:18] <mikeo1> i dunno does it?
[03:18] <lophyte> I liked Compiz.. but it broke my notification area.
[03:18] <Warbo> riddlebox: In GParted you should see your PVs as "Unknown" or something. Just remove them
[03:18] <azcazandco> right ... brb
[03:18] <mikeo1> the nvidia logo shows, and it boots into the desktop
[03:18] <snoops> jme hmm all the basic apps work fine I've found
[03:18] <zealot> biscon: well if you update and are using the beerorkid repository, compiz obsoletes compiz-gnome (which contains gnome-window-decorator)
[03:19] <jme> oh, they'll work, snoops
[03:19] <mikeo1> glxgears is just at like 5fps for 5 seconds tho
[03:19] <jme> there's just little benefit, is my point
[03:19] <zealot> Warbo: how is compiz anything remotely like metacity?
[03:19] <snoops> jme.. yeah I'm keen to see if I can notice a difference :/
[03:19] <Adam_G> alight, I did grub-install /dev/sda1, and I get an error after "probing devices to find BIOS drives" saying "could not find defice for /boot: not found or not a block device"
[03:19] <zealot> Warbo: transparency and wobbling are not features in metacity ;-)
[03:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need help rebuilding my grub.  The Ubuntu help at !grub were worse than USLESS they were a waste of time.
[03:19] <Adam_G> I"m in the xubuntu liveCD, btw
[03:19] <jme> don't end up like the gentoo people, snoops
[03:19] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: whats wrong with your grub
[03:20] <Adam_G> so does this mean that grub-install just won't work from here?
[03:20] <Warbo> zealot: It uses the GTK+ colour scheme, it's buttons and menus are basically the same and the only theme available is like Clearlooks (has the close gadgets on the right, etc.)
[03:20] <biscon> zealot: I do, upgraded earlier.. perhaps I haven't restarted since hehe
[03:20] <riddlebox> Warbo, I did that but then it fails everytime I try to finish
[03:20] <snoops> jme because ya know, I jumped on the 64bit bandwagon without knowing flash is decades old and only 32bit.. And then there's the whole wine only 32bit.. and well if I'm going to have to chroot into most apps :(
[03:20] <RadiantFire> calling Jack_Smirnoff.  Are you there....
[03:20] <Jack_Smirnoff> It got trashed, the !grub hep says at the boot prompt type xxx .. The install disk doen not give me a boot prompt
[03:20] <Warbo> riddlebox: Maybe just wipe the partition table with fdisk?
[03:20] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, heres what you can do
[03:20] <Blinocac200sx> Any of yall ever run Ubuntu on an Imac?
[03:21] <OPENports> help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?
[03:21] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: can youboot with a cd
[03:21] <jme> yeah, 64-bit will get there, but it's unimportant now
[03:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  Thanks for the help
[03:21] <riddlebox> Warbo, it says that it cannot open /dev/hda
[03:21] <RadiantFire> like the install cd
[03:21] <jme> I guess I was under the impression you could still run 32-bit code, like in Windows
[03:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> Yes the 6.06 live does boot
[03:21] <Warbo> riddlebox: Are you using sudo?
[03:21] <snoops> jme I was thinking I should actually be able to notice a difference between 32bit/64bit.. Using a fairly grunty cpu (amd 4400+ x2).. oh well
[03:21] <Jymmm> Ok, I was able to get a console by booting up in recovery mode, how can I disable gui login?
[03:21] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, boot into that
[03:21] <riddlebox> warbo, yes
[03:22] <snoops> jme oh you can run 32bit code.. you just have to either do it chrooted into a 32bit environment, or with umm 'linux32'
[03:22] <Jack_Smirnoff> Im on that machine so I will need to take notes and try it
[03:22] <OPENports> warbo: help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?
[03:22] <jme> oh
[03:22] <jme> easier on Windows
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: wait
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: if you are booted, how did you grub get messed up?
[03:22] <bluemoon> dli, pastebin.com failed :(
[03:22] <jme> I guess flash isn't available because it's binary-only
[03:22] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: you only need to have the machine turned on somehow, thats all
[03:22] <dli> bluemoon, pastebin.ca
[03:22] <Savage> biscon: my hard drive is in master like it says it should on the link still no luck
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> I removed a defective second drive and lost everything until I fdisk /mbr
[03:23] <Warbo> 64bit just shows the complete brokenness of the computing market. People don't try to use x86 apps on PPC because they know they don't work, but because x86_64 can run Windows they assume it should all work as 64bit. It is not 64bit's fault, it is companies who have blinkered themselves to a single architecture
[03:23] <snoops> jme well I blame macromedia/adobe for it
[03:23] <bluemoon> dli,http://pastebin.ca/75316
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> sda3 has Ubuntu
[03:23] <Warbo> OPENports: No idea
[03:23] <biscon> Savage: okay but perhaps you should write the boot sector again.. as well as inspecting the grub.conf file
[03:23] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: so, you are booted on the machine
[03:23] <azcazandco> damn ... my usb keyboards stopped working after installing my updates
[03:23] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: what partition is your /boot on?
[03:23] <jme> funny how Flash became such a standard
[03:23] <Warbo> riddlebox: Unmount any partitions which are mounted?
[03:23] <azcazandco> keeps flashing
[03:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am in XP now
[03:23] <OPENports>  help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?\\ does anyone know, thank u very much
[03:24] <theoverload> hi all
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> sda3
[03:24] <theoverload> kann mir einer helfen
[03:24] <Warbo> jme: Flashis open, just the official player isn't
[03:24] <dli> bluemoon, testing packages?
[03:24] <sss> excuse me,would anybody like to tell me how i can compile a tar.gz package,plz?
[03:24] <Flannel> !de
[03:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:24] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ah, well you need to be in linux somehow
[03:24] <Savage> biscon: i'm a newb at all this how would i inspect the grub.conf file?
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> I can boot live and come back if that will help
[03:24] <bluemoon> dli, i went on an installation spree :)
[03:24] <sss> what can i do next?
[03:24] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: do that then
[03:24] <jme> Flash is "open" like MS Word docs are open
[03:24] <lophyte> malachi: you still around?
[03:24] <Adam_G> RadiantFire: I have a similar issue
[03:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> k
[03:24] <Warbo> sss: First, what are you trying to compile?
[03:25] <Adam_G> I'm currently in a xubuntu liveCD
[03:25] <dli> bluemoon, anyway, give it a nasty tweak:  sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.4-matplotlib_0.82-5ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:25] <Adam_G> I suppose my xubuntu grub is messed up- it stops in level 1.5
[03:25] <RadiantFire> ok, just hang on Adam_G, the first step is to find out what partition your /boot is on
[03:25] <snoops> Warbo they haven't released the specs for the player, so having to reverse engineer one isn't a lot of fun.. And it's completely inane sadly. No point trying to hold onto the player so desperately when they release it for free
[03:25] <azcazandco> any idea how i can get my keyboard back?
[03:25] <Warbo> jme: I should have said SWF. That is a freely documented open standard, just that not many people can be bothered to make an alternative player (Office costs money, so there is incentive there)
[03:25] <biscon> Savage: that buzilla page link I gave you.. in that there was a link to some forum grub guide thing.. try and follow that, reinstalling the bootloader. will teach you about grub config in the process
[03:25] <CarlFK> There used to be a 'terminal server client' to connect to windows terminal servers - where did it go?  and what is it's package name? (proably t-s)
[03:26] <dli> bluemoon, you can enable --force- options, but getting a stable repository is better
[03:26] <jme> well, that's what I meant, Warbo
[03:26] <Warbo> snoops: Why reverse engineer? It is an open format!
[03:26] <bluemoon> dli, thanks i havent used ubuntu in a while... been on gentoo
[03:26] <Adam_G> when I try to grub-install /dev/sda1, it says "could not find device for /boot: not fount or not a boot device"
[03:26] <jme> it can hardly be called free when there aren't other decent implementations
[03:26] <sss> warbo,xfce-utils-4.2.2.tar.gz
[03:26] <theoverload> help
[03:26] <Warbo> sss: OK, extract the package then go into it with a terminal
[03:26] <jme> !help
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[03:26] <dli> bluemoon, no point to use ubuntu then, for experienced users, I recommend debian
[03:26] <__mikem> jme so write your own implimentation
[03:26] <Warbo> !helpme
[03:26] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:27] <Warbo> :)
[03:27] <jme> OK, I'll have it on your desk tomorrow, __mikem
[03:27] <bluemoon> dli, yeah i know but i didnt want to mess with all of the configurations :)
[03:27] <sss> warbo ,ive extracted it and  im in terminal now ,what next?
[03:27] <theoverload> i have a problem can speak german
[03:27] <jme> theoverload: #ubuntu-de
[03:27] <Warbo> jme: (wget http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/whateverthefilenameis.tar.gz :))
[03:27] <theoverload> ok
[03:27] <Warbo> sss: "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[03:28] <lophyte> malachi: I've got it installed... seems to work fine
[03:28] <jme> is gnash any good?
[03:28] <sss> warbo ,whats that
[03:28] <Warbo> Gnash is very good
[03:28] <jme> hm, I might play around with it
[03:28] <theoverload> thanks
[03:28] <jme> flash on linux bugs me anyway
[03:28] <Warbo> sss: Type that. It will get all of the utilities you need for the next step
[03:28] <__mikem> flash in general bugs me
[03:28] <Warbo> jme: Make sure you compile in MP3 support (it is disabled by default for obvious reasons)
[03:28] <jme> I dunno, I sure like when it pops up ad windows
[03:28] <biscon> amen
[03:29] <bluemoon> dli, thanks for your time though
[03:29] <sss> warbo ,then?
[03:29] <jme> and full-screen ads for McGriddles are pretty cool
[03:29] <Jac1> I'm back... Smirnoff.. that is
[03:29] <Warbo> I like Flash for movies and even games, but I don't like the browser integration. It has become just like another image format
[03:29] <Warbo> sss: "./configure"
[03:30] <azcazandco> man I am gonna hit the sack
[03:30] <jme> yeah, I wish SVG had some wider support
[03:30] <__mikem> Warbo, I used to think flash driven websites were hip and cool. But then this wonderful thing happened, I grew up.
[03:30] <sss> warbo,type it directly?
[03:30] <azcazandco> thanks for making me feel welcome folks
[03:30] <__mikem> don't mention it
[03:30] <biscon> azcazandco: np
[03:30] <azcazandco> will be back
[03:30] <Warbo> sss: Yes (including the dot and slash)
[03:30] <azcazandco> keyboard or not
[03:30] <Jack_Smirnoff> Ok, booted livecd and now need to fix grub so sda3 will work
[03:30] <azcazandco> night
[03:30] <__mikem> good night
[03:30] <mitcheloc> i've got a sort-of-bug, where should i report it?
[03:30] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok, open a terminal nad hit sudo grub
[03:31] <RadiantFire> you should now be at the grub shell
[03:31] <snoops> __mikem like youtube and google video.. they're pretty flash driven, considering their entire video streaming system is done via flash. :/
[03:31] <sss> user@ubuntu:~$ ./configure
[03:31] <sss> bash: ./configure:
[03:31] <Warbo> sss: ?
[03:31] <Warbo> sss: You seem to have left out the actual error bit :)
[03:31] <__mikem> snoops when I say flash driven, I mean where the entire site is big flash movie with all the bells and whistles
[03:32] <sss> warbo ,it told me no that dictionary
[03:32] <sss> why
[03:32] <__mikem> is one big flash movie I mean
[03:32] <RadiantFire> we good so far Jack_Smirnoff
[03:32] <Warbo> Flash should be run in a standalone player just like a Theora
[03:32] <snoops> __mikem well that's a usability nightmare - concerning meta information, people with disabilities, etc etc
[03:32] <Warbo> sss: Maybe "./autoconf"
[03:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> radiant I am there..
[03:32] <dooglus> !info xfce4-utils dapper
[03:32] <ubotu> xfce4-utils: Various tools for Xfce. In repository main, is optional. Version 4.3.90.1svn+r21673-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 679 kB, installed size 1872 kB
[03:32] <__mikem> snoops, I know but I have seen entire websites implimented as a flash movie, it looks cool, but gets annoying quickly
[03:33] <dooglus> sss: why not just install the binary package?
[03:33] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: ok try root (hd0,2)
[03:33] <RadiantFire> in the window
[03:33] <RadiantFire> you should get some info printed about the filesystem
[03:33] <Warbo> dooglus: Is there one? OK I didn't know
[03:33] <sss> user@ubuntu:~$ ./autoconf
[03:33] <sss> bash: ./autoconf:
[03:33] <RadiantFire> tell me when its done and if it gave any wierd errors
[03:33] <witless> why is apt-get telling me packages can't be authenticated?  i'm installing squid.
[03:33] <Warbo> sss: "ls"
[03:33] <snoops> __mikem right.. a flash banner or two can work wonders, but if they aren't there, it doesn't degrade the accessabilty or usabilty of the site
[03:34] <sss> warbo ,then?
[03:34] <Adam_G> RadiantFire: I'm following along too... do I need to do the same basic thing?
[03:34] <dooglus> Warbo: see the ubotu line - it's xfce4-utils
[03:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  shows partition type 0x83 ext3fs
[03:34] <Warbo> sss: What comes up (maybe paste bin it)
[03:34] <RadiantFire> Adam_G: something similar
[03:34] <Adam_G> kk
[03:34] <Warbo> dooglus: Just ant to check something now
[03:34] <Warbo> !patebin
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about patebin
[03:34] <Warbo> !pastebin
[03:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:34] <dooglus> Warbo: ant is for building java code usually.
[03:34] <RadiantFire> replace remember that its the 0th harddrive and the 3rd drive starting at 0
[03:34] <Induane> hey all, when installing the ati drivers it seems to go fine the problem is that if I run glxgears or glxinfo it says i'm missing libglide3.so.3 so i install it and instead it says there are undefined symbol in libglide.so.3
[03:34] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: now run setup (hd0)
[03:35] <RadiantFire> and then hit exit if there are no errors
[03:35] <Jack_Smirnoff> k
[03:35] <Warbo> dooglus: Ah it is Java? OK.(I was thinking sss was in ~ :))
[03:35] <Induane> this is done with the 8.26 drivers.  the 8.25 drivers in the repo completely fail
[03:35] <dooglus> Warbo: no, it's not.
[03:35] <RadiantFire> if everything went well grub should be install again
[03:35] <Jack_Smirnoff> says succeded
[03:35] <RadiantFire> mkauy
[03:35] <RadiantFire> then exit and reboot to see if it worked
[03:35] <Warbo> dooglus: Well you seem to actually know what it is, so maybe you should be guiding sss :)
[03:35] <Jack_Smirnoff> K, thanks so much lets hope for the best...
[03:36] <Adam_G> succeed here too
[03:36] <RadiantFire> yay
[03:36] <RadiantFire> ok, then see if yours works 2 Adam_G
[03:36] <Adam_G> thx for the help, hopefully I'll be back:)
[03:36] <sss> warbo ,coms up with : Desktop  Examples xfce-utils-4.2.2 xfce-utils-4.2.2.tar.gz
[03:36] <dooglus> Warbo: what's he trying to do?  It looks to me like he's trying to build an old version of a package which has a newer version available in the respos
[03:37] <Warbo> sss: I was right, you are not in the right directory :)
[03:37] <dooglus> sss: you need to "cd xfce*2"
[03:37] <moshe> hello
[03:37] <NickGarvey> hello
[03:38] <moshe> my machine gives me no sound
[03:38] <moshe> I'm a member of group "audio", and /dev/dsp has permissions of 660.
[03:38] <Warbo> dooglus: Explain the Apt wat to sss please (I just wanted to tech an elimentary lesson about terminals)
[03:38] <moshe> anyone know why I can't access the audio device?
[03:38] <Warbo> way
[03:38] <sss> warbo ,u mean before i ./configure ,i should go the right dictionary first ,right?
[03:38] <Warbo> moshe: Don't use /dev/dsp, use ALSA
[03:39] <moshe> ?
[03:39] <__mikem> Warbo, I love the xterm emulator. I prefere it to gnome-terminal or konsole
[03:39] <moshe> what do you mean?
[03:39] <moshe> the alsa mixer?
[03:39] <imarung> hi all.. can someone help me with installing wine in ubuntu..
[03:39] <jack__> hi... i need a little bit of urgent "i tried to mount my NTFS drive as writable" help, if someone can give ma a hand..
[03:39] <Warbo> sss: Yes, but apparently the thing you want is already in Ubuntu :)
[03:39] <jme> __mikem: tried a lightweight one like rxvt?
[03:39] <moshe> whoa
[03:39] <Warbo> moshe: /dev/dsp was used by the Open Sound System. ALSA uses several audio devices (so many programs can use sound at once)
[03:39] <__mikem> I thought xterm was lightwait
[03:39] <__mikem> hold on
[03:39] <jme> basically, there's no reason to use xterm rather than rxvt
[03:40] <moshe> I fired up alsamixer and it  showed me my webcam instead of my sound card
[03:40] <jme> no, xterm implements all kinds of useless terminals
[03:40] <jme> I mean, it's relatively light, but rxvt is better
[03:40] <snoops> imarung sudo apt-get install wine (making sure you have the universal and multiverse repositories added to apt?)
[03:40] <biscon> Konsole ftw
[03:40] <moshe> wifey is going to be very annoyed if she sits the kids in front of the computer to watch sesame street dvds and there's no sound.
[03:41] <jack__> hi... i need a little bit of urgent "i tried to mount my NTFS drive as writable" help, if someone can give ma a hand... i can't get it to mount anymore
[03:41] <sss> warbo ,already in ubuntu?
[03:41] <biscon> jack__: did you write to it?
[03:41] <Warbo> __mikem: But it doesn't have tabs and can't do a fake-transparent background! Terminals are useless without these
[03:41] <jack__> no.. cant mount it
[03:41] <Warbo> sss: run "gksudo synaptic"
[03:41] <BrianLy> I've just installed dapper server - anyone got a moment to help me get rails installed? I installed ruby but I can't run gem etc
[03:41] <jme> ubuntu really should disable NTFS write support
[03:42] <Warbo> jme: As far as I know they have?
[03:42] <sss> warbo ,if so,why the terminal didnt tell me that when i install it?
[03:42] <snoops> err they have jme!
[03:42] <Warbo> sss: Open up Synaptic like I said.........
[03:42] <DarkMageZ> jme, it is disabled by default, you have to enable it manually
[03:42] <jme> they have? It's still possible, right?
[03:42] <jack__> it must be disabled cuz  i had to jump through all sorts of hoops to break it
[03:42] <jme> you just edit a .conf or two...
[03:42] <jme> oh, gotcha
[03:42] <snoops> jme just like formatting a disk is still possible.. of course!
[03:43] <sss> ok
[03:43] <Warbo> jme: Ubuntu should NOT completely remove a feature that people may want. That would be so stupid
[03:43] <jme> they should disable formatting -- a dangerous tool!
[03:43] <biscon> jack__: you overlooked the line about experimental write support?
[03:43] <jme> and rm really should be replaced with a recycle bin
[03:43] <jack__> nope... saw it.. but i also needed to do it
[03:43] <moshe> biscon, he was experimenting!
[03:43] <RadiantFire> jme: right...
[03:43] <dooglus> jme: no it shouldn't
[03:43] <DarkMageZ> jme, they should also disable installing software, you know how dangerous that is!!!
[03:43] <dooglus> jme: 'rm' should remove files
[03:43] <Evilscietnist> hey can someone help this noob install some stuff....pm me please.
[03:43] <jme> yeah, no kidding
[03:43] <RadiantFire> jme: rm work differenty from recycle-bin
[03:44] <biscon> moshe: lol
[03:44] <Warbo> jme: Write a BASH script that replaces it then. Shouldn't be too hard, then give it to Universe for a bit and then get it put in Ubuntu
[03:44] <jme> I hear hackers do that "installing" stuff
[03:44] <moshe> so, how the hell do I get my sound working?
[03:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  No Joy now says reboot and select proper boot device
[03:44] <RadiantFire> gah
[03:44] <DarkMageZ> jme, lol =D
[03:44] <Adam1> didn't work... there was still an FC theme to the bootloader (that's my other distro) and it stills stops in 1.5 :/
[03:44] <RadiantFire> i dont know then
[03:44] <dli> moshe, can you " alsamixer " ?
[03:44] <moshe> aumix seems to be looking at my webcam also
[03:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> I lost windows but I can get that back..
[03:44] <RadiantFire> that should have reinstalled everything
[03:44] <moshe> alsamixer is pointing to my webcam instead of my sound card
[03:44] <Jack_Smirnoff> I tried putting the failing drive but same error
[03:44] <snoops> jme why isn't there bonzi buddy for linux? I use that on windows all the time! It was so useful!
[03:45] <RadiantFire> unless ther is a cheap way of doing dpkg-reconfigure grub
[03:45] <jme> there's AMOR
[03:45] <dli> moshe, have a look: cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:45] <Warbo> snoops: amor
[03:45] <Adam1> what would I do diffrently to reinstall grup to sda3?
[03:45] <neotard> moshe:  alsomixer will poitn at the default alsa device3
[03:45] <Adam1> *grub
[03:45] <fishsticks> snoops, the little talking gorilla was endlessly amusing when you made it swear
[03:45] <dli> moshe, find your audio card there
[03:45] <neotard> moshe:  what dli is telling you :)
[03:45] <Warbo> Clippy and that sheep. They were the best
[03:45] <moshe> why on earth did my webcam end up as the default device?
[03:45] <snoops> someone should port it to linux..
[03:45] <moshe> webcam is 0, sound card is 1
[03:46] <Warbo> snoops: xpenguins
[03:46] <moshe> how do I change the default?
[03:46] <snoops> Warbo (sorry it was a joke)
[03:46] <moshe> wotta revoltin' development
[03:46] <Warbo> I still miss Bobby on a PD floppy disk. He had MUSIC!
[03:47] <moshe> dli, any idea how to fix this?
[03:47] <neotard> moshe:  it's one of the things I need to look into myself.  my tv card and intel eggcam seem to swap device numbers if I restart :)
[03:48] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  I want to try what we did before with the old drive installed, I am in term, did sudo grub what was the second command
[03:49] <NickGarvey> !oo
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about oo
[03:49] <NickGarvey> !openoffice
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about openoffice
[03:49] <NickGarvey> !search openoffice
[03:49] <ubotu> Found nothing
[03:49] <dooglus> !fishing
[03:49] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[03:49] <NickGarvey> meh I'll add it
[03:49] <NickGarvey> well, propose to add it
[03:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  are you still here..
[03:50] <moshe> !openoffice.org
[03:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about openoffice.org
[03:50] <Adam1> Jack_Smirnoff: if you hit tap there's a list of possible commands
[03:50] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  I would like to try that again now that I popped in the failing drive
[03:50] <Adam1> *tab
[03:51] <Adam1> I don't recognize anything yet...
[03:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> But I dont remember what command he had me try
[03:51] <Demonmaster> Hi, can someone help
[03:51] <RadiantFire> Jack_Smirnoff: grub then root then setup
[03:51] <Warbo> !helpme
[03:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:52] <parker`> hey guys, I am a pretty new Linux user that started out on Fedora Core and liked it a lot, I'm thinking about changing over to Ubuntu, but I was wondering how the two really differed
[03:52] <Jack_Smirnoff> And since I rebooted I cant scroll back, would you look back for me?
[03:52] <Demonmaster> my sound card dosent work
[03:52] <Jack_Smirnoff> setup
[03:52] <Jack_Smirnoff> oops
[03:53] <nbjayme> hello people.. i wanted to explore  Desktop Publishing under Linux... i've found Scribus  and I heard about LaTex.. is there a GUI Latex that is capable of doing Desktop Publishing?
[03:53] <rittyan> parker`: download livecd and try to use it :)
[03:53] <Adam1> roo"root hda(0,2)?" doesn't work... what am I doing wrong?
[03:53] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  it was setup (hd0,2)   ?  for sda3
[03:53] <moshe> netsplit?
[03:53] <Adam1> oh I see now
[03:54] <nbjayme> hello people.. i wanted to explore  Desktop Publishing under Linux... i've found Scribus  and I heard about LaTex.. is there a GUI Latex that is capable of doing Desktop Publishing?
[03:54] <Adam1> Jack_Smirnoff: 0,4 I beleive
[03:54] <parker`> rittyan: I am using Ubuntu right now but I find myself missing FC5 at times, but I think it's just because it's what I started out on, just wondering if you guys could give me some good reasons to stay here
[03:54] <Blinocac200sx> Any Mac users in the house?
[03:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> I thought it was one less than the sda
[03:54] <jdsbluedevl> hi, does anyone know how to access wine directories?
[03:55] <judax> parker`: what do you miss?
[03:55] <Adam1> I thought it was one more...
[03:55] <rittyan> parker`: Well I miss gentoo everytime but I don't have time for it... :|
[03:55] <Evilscietnist> hmmm...need help installing program
[03:55] <jdsbluedevl> Mac, yes, but I run OSX on that
[03:55] <Adam1> is the root command root (hd0,2)?
[03:55] <rittyan> and also I prefer debian-fork than rpm-based things
[03:55] <Blinocac200sx> bummer
[03:56] <parker`> judax: I don't know too much about Linux, but I just liked the overall feel of it, and I liked rpms and yum and stuff, but people tell me that .deb is better, but no one tells me how it's better
[03:56] <bsder> Anybody have some advice on how to boot an external firewire drive using the LiveCD to bootstrap?
[03:56] <jdsbluedevl> I've heard apt-get is faster than yum
[03:56] <Blinocac200sx> after the splash screen I lose video on my Imac
[03:56] <Jack_Smirnoff> Would some kind sole look back and tell me the last command RadiantFire had me type setup (hd0,?)
[03:56] <jdsbluedevl> does anyone know how to access directories associated with wine?
[03:56] <parker`> they seem about the same to me
[03:57] <rittyan> parker`: with *.deb you don't have desire to gram something from other distro if you don't have it in your repositories =))
[03:57] <rittyan> *to grab
[03:57] <lampshade> Does anyone here know if beagle will index hidden folders by default?  By hidden I mean folders starting with .
[03:57] <parker`> rittyan: I'm not sure if I'm catching your drift... you mean the whole thing about rpms being used on different distros?
[03:58] <parker`> finding the right one and such?
[03:58] <rittyan> parker`: I know some ppl who... if they don't have something in their repository.... they'll grab it from other distro (they thing its rpm after all), and it cannot be good...
[03:59] <Evilscietnist> how do you install a program as super user in xubuntu
[03:59] <rittyan> so for me rpm is very bad thing because its widespread)
[03:59] <rittyan> EvilGrin: sudo apt-get install <name>?
[03:59] <rittyan> in terminal?
[03:59] <rittyan> *Evilscietnist
[03:59] <rittyan> sorry
[03:59] <Tom7e> is it possible to copy files INTO my windows partition instead of just taking files from it?
[03:59] <gnomefreak> NickGarvey:  it was added
[03:59] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[03:59] <judax> parker`: you are much less likely to get into dependancy hell with .deb than with rpm.  .deb takes care of pulling in all that you need to get a particular app up and running much better, imo
[03:59] <Evilscietnist> you'd think...but no
[04:00] <gnomefreak> yw
[04:00] <scanner_X> hey, guys, i need some help. I'm about to leave, and i need to know how to connect to my friends internet.  Becuase i have trouble when I try to.  And I end up not being able too
[04:00] <parker`> judax: that's true, sometimes dependencies were hell on FC5
[04:00] <rittyan> Tom7e: if your windows partition is in ntfs... you can't do it... well, you can try "captive ntfs" but I don't know will it work or won't, because I never tried it
[04:00] <snoops> Tom7e if the windows partition is formatted to fat32 and not ntfs yep. NTFS write support is very experimental and you're likely to kill the partition if you do it
[04:00] <parker`> it'd tell you that you needed something but wouldn't give you the exact name of what you needed so searching for it yielded no result and stuff, that was pretty fun
[04:00] <scanner_X> snoops, do you know what the problem is?
[04:01] <F0LL0W3R> how can i enable the root account in ubuntu ?
[04:01] <scanner_X> when I try to connect to my friends interent, i cant
[04:01] <NickGarvey> !root > F0LL0W3R
[04:01] <Tom7e> thanks, i'll just pass then.
[04:01] <inline1> hello
[04:01] <lophyte> hey inline1
[04:01] <rittyan> scanner_X: passwd --help
[04:01] <snoops> scanner_X err.. is he just using a switch, and you're connecting to that switch via ethernet?
[04:01] <Tom7e> what are the disadvantages of turning my partition into fat32?
[04:01] <rittyan> oh.. >_<
[04:01] <scanner_X> umm, trying to connect to his router
[04:01] <judax> parker`: yeah, I have done rpm systems and that was always fun.
[04:02] <rittyan> F0LL0W3R: "passwd" was for you
[04:02] <lophyte> Tom7e: no file security
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[04:02] <mikeo1> what are the fastest vnc settings
[04:02] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  I appreciate your help but now I dont have XP or Ubuntu.. I just need the same command you gave me a few minutes ago
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> Tom7e: No permission.
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> s
[04:02] <scanner_X> any ideas snoops?
[04:02] <mikeo1> is there a way to just have 1 computer render the desktop in hidef
[04:02] <mikeo1> and have a second computer dl that stream and control the desktop
[04:03] <Tom7e> thanks
[04:03] <NickGarvey> mikeo1: I don't understand the question
[04:03] <mikeo1> using xgl over vnc
[04:03] <snoops> scanner_X well I asked a question...
[04:03] <inline1> i seem to be having a problem with x-windows .. i just burned a new ubuntu cd, seems i downloaded the live version by mistake, regardless since the problem is found even in the installation version, everything is fine except when it comes time to boot into x-windows i get all these scarry errors
[04:03] <mikeo1> but the network isnt the bottleneck
[04:03] <mikeo1> and the computer isnt either
[04:03] <slavik> yo
[04:03] <scanner_X> snoops: and i answered.  Im trying to connect to his router
[04:03] <mikeo1> i think its the recieving end thats slow
[04:03] <scanner_X> via lan
[04:03] <NickGarvey> xgl over vnc.. hahaha...
[04:03] <ryanakca> anybody had trouble with fglrx + GL recently? It used to be fixable by downloading /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from the forums.... but it doesn't seem to work.... fglrxinfo gives me ouput about mesa and not ATI/Radeon
[04:03] <Draconicus> An update did something weird to ALSA, and my cards switched devices. Now my primary card is on /dev/dsp2, but everything is defaulting to dsp0. Is there a way to tell EVERYTHING to go to dsp2?
[04:04] <slavik> Draconicus: symlink dsp0 to point to dps2 :)
[04:04] <mikeo1> man it works good
[04:04] <snoops> scanner_X oh sorry.. Well err.. From the inside of the local network or the outside?
[04:04] <mikeo1> trying to figure out the best compression settings
[04:04] <scanner_X> inside
[04:04] <mikeo1> or rather fastest
[04:04] <F0LL0W3R> so how can i give a permission drwxrwxrwx for mounted vfat partition ?
[04:04] <slavik> ryanakca: there was a way to fix it
[04:04] <mikeo1> cause the recieving computer is slower
[04:04] <Draconicus> slavik: That'd be great if /dev wasn't a directory that reset on every reboot.
[04:04] <slavik> search the forums for "ati mesa issue" or something like that
[04:04] <lophyte> F0LL0W3R: you can't give permissions to fat partitions
[04:04] <inline1> so i think i might have to configure xwin manually .. any idea on what might be the problem? i have an ati x800
[04:04] <ryanakca> slavik: I take it that the key word is "was"?
[04:05] <slavik> Draconicus: set up a script :P
[04:05] <mikeo1> lol its xgl over vnc on dual displays
[04:05] <F0LL0W3R> lophyte why ?
[04:05] <Draconicus> slavik: It doesn't work anyway. I tried.
[04:05] <slavik> ryanakca: it is still there
[04:05] <mikeo1> one at 1680x1050 and the other at 1280x1024
[04:05] <lophyte> F0LL0W3R: because FAT doesn't support unix permissions
[04:05] <slavik> Draconicus: k, good to know ...
[04:05] <F0LL0W3R> aha
[04:05] <ryanakca> ???
[04:05] <lophyte> F0LL0W3R: what you can do, though, is pass options to the mount command that give it default permissions..
[04:05] <slavik> Draconicus: look into alsa config on google
[04:05] <lophyte> F0LL0W3R: one sec..
[04:05] <Draconicus> slavik: I'm pretty irritated that an UPDATE screwed up my card assignments. I guess I'll have to do that, though.
[04:06] <parker`> does ubuntu not come with a c++ compiler installed by default or am I just being a huge nub?
[04:06] <scanner_X> snoops: sorry to rush you, but i only have a few mins.  I said 'inside' if you didnt see it
[04:06] <lophyte> F0LL0W3R: mind if I PM you?
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[04:06] <F0LL0W3R> nop sure
[04:06] <slavik> parker`: you're not being a nub, you are being correct :(
[04:06] <parker`> slavik: that honestly and seriously shocks me... why not? lol
[04:06] <NickGarvey> parker`: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:06] <parker`> cool thanks
[04:06] <slavik> yes
[04:06] <slavik> parker`: ubuntu is a user's OS not a developer's OS
[04:07] <inline1> so um any ideas?
[04:07] <NickGarvey> root__: get off of root!
[04:07] <slavik> eventually, I might make a ubuntu-dev metapackage
[04:07] <root__> NickGarvey: i cant
[04:07] <slavik> why not?
[04:07] <snoops> scanner_X if he's not using dhcp you'll just need to obviously connect to his switch/router with some ethernet cable.. then if he isn't using dhcp you'll need to just configure your local ip address and gateway.. which he should be able to give you.. such as ip 192.168.1.100 and gateway 192.168.1.1
[04:07] <freaks> hi there
[04:07] <parker`> which sort of distros do you notice many devs using slavik?
[04:07] <ryanakca> slavik: ???
[04:07] <mikeo1> hmmmm
[04:07] <slavik> parker`: I use ubuntu
[04:07] <slavik> ryanakca: not you
[04:07] <scanner_X> snoops: he is using dchp
[04:08] <parker`> slavik: and do you know no other devs?
[04:08] <mikeo1> for some reason raw vnc encoding tops out at 6mb/s
[04:08] <mikeo1> sort of slow
[04:08] <mikeo1> on a gigabit netowrk
[04:08] <mikeo1> cause video playback is still choppy
[04:08] <snoops> scanner_X then it should be a matter of connecting, and turning your pc on
[04:08] <mikeo1> doesnt make any sense
[04:08] <slavik> parker`: because I know that I use ubuntu, I don't care what others use
[04:08] <root__> NickGarvey: my software raid  refuses to mount my /home and /swap partitions , and i dont know to fix it
[04:08] <ryanakca> no... [22:04]  <slavik> ryanakca: it is still there
[04:08] <slavik> my college has a debian cluster ...
[04:08] <freaks> on ubuntu what the equivalent of "rpm -qa | grep blah " ?  (where blah is the short for blah* or blahh-long-name.rpm)
[04:08] <freaks> ?
[04:08] <slavik> ryanakca: I meant the thread
[04:08] <scanner_X> see, it connects, but i cant use any interent apps.  eg. Firefox, Gaim, XChat
[04:08] <malachi> lophyte: Still alive? I've been disconnected for a while.
[04:09] <parker`> slavik: which college do you attend?
[04:09] <ryanakca> ah, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem anymore :(
[04:09] <lophyte> malachi: yup.. I got openoffice installed
[04:09] <mikeo1> whats the fastest way for vnc
[04:09] <slavik> freaks: apt-search pkgname packagenamehere
[04:09] <lophyte> malachi: it works fine
[04:09] <flankk> When I plug in my mp3 player, Rhythmbox automatically runs.  This is very irritating.  How can I disable this?
[04:09] <slavik> parker`: CUNY :(
[04:09] <mikeo1> are there any other vnc players that are faster over a gigabit network?
[04:09] <slavik> brooklyn college
[04:09] <mikeo1> tightvnc with raw is sort of slow
[04:09] <parker`> slavik: you do not like it?
[04:09] <scanner_X> snoops, see, it connects, but i cant use any interent apps.  eg. Firefox, Gaim, XChat
[04:10] <Adam1> umm... great... just had cpu usage shoot up to 100%, all by the id thingy in top, after trying unsucessfully to open a program
[04:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  I could sure use your hlep
[04:10] <Jack_Smirnoff> help
[04:10] <Adam1> anyone know whatthat is?
[04:10] <freaks> slavik, but i don't want to know if this particular package is instalable..... i want to ask the already installed package database about all package that are name blah*
[04:10] <malachi> lophyte: I did too ;)
[04:10] <Adam1> Smirnoff: I'm askin in #grub, but no luck :/
[04:10] <freaks> could be blah1, blah2, blah-long-name etc... but already installed ones
[04:11] <snoops> scanner_X umm well it should.. a problem with his network then.. you can check your ip settings with ipconfig.. maybe his dhcp isn't setup for dns as well..in which case you'd need to statically set it
[04:11] <__mikem> Sorry, I keep getting kicked
[04:11] <slavik> freaks: dpkg -l | grep blah*
[04:11] <freaks> slavik, great i try :)
[04:11] <slavik> freaks: man dpkg, and apt, all you need
[04:11] <scanner_X> snoops, okay, thats what i was going to do.  What are the terminal commands
[04:12] <Matrikz> i have a question
[04:12] <lophyte> malachi: I only installed writer and draw though.. I don't need impress or math
[04:12] <__mikem> !ask
[04:12] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:12] <flankk> When I plug in my mp3 player, Rhythmbox automatically runs.  This is very irritating.  How can I disable this?
[04:12] <mikeo1> is there anyway i can render my desktop to a video stream?
[04:12] <Matrikz> i have a digital camera, where or how do i get the pictures off of it?
[04:12] <slavik> freaks: apt can even output a list of all packages in dotty format so you can use a graphing program (graphviz) and it will draw out a dependency tree
[04:12] <lophyte> malachi: did you install the debian integration package with it?
[04:12] <spades> flankk removable media options under system>preferences
[04:12] <slavik> something dependency hell distros don't do
[04:12] <malachi> lophyte: Yup.
[04:12] <lophyte> malachi: awesome :)
[04:12] <mikeo1> how do i render my desktop to a live video stream
[04:12] <snoops> scanner_X you can set the ip/dns etc from the gui! system>administration>network I believe
[04:12] <slavik> parker`: it's meh
[04:12] <flankk> spades, thank you.
[04:13] <freaks> slavik, man pages need overhaul updates they're simply unreadables ;) (and most of all there's no given examples, most of the time :(
[04:13] <scanner_X> okay, thanx snoops.  Ill bbl if it works
[04:13] <scanner_X> ttyl
[04:13] <slavik> parker`: I learn, but they are outdated ... barely any linux/unix and no .NET and no nice web dev stuff (AJAX and stuff like that)
[04:13] <freaks> hey someone can help?
[04:13] <freaks>  dpkg -l | grep linux-kernel*
[04:13] <freaks> ii  linux-kernel-headers                   2.6.11.2-0ubuntu18                    Linux Kernel Headers for development
[04:13] <freaks> root@kanzume:/home/keisangi# uname -r
[04:13] <freaks> 2.6.15-25-386
[04:13] <freaks> root@kanzume:/home/keisangi#
[04:13] <parker`> slavik: I'm going to Georgia Tech in the fall, not sure what they use up there
[04:13] <flankk> spades, now I can change to command to a script that automatically syncs my podcasts :D
[04:14] <slavik> parker`: Stephon Marbury went there ...
[04:14] <parker`> slavik: who's that? :)
[04:14] <slavik> he finished the HS I went to ...
[04:14] <slavik> he's in the NBA
[04:14] <parker`> oh lol
[04:14] <slavik> played for knicks
[04:14] <witless> i've downloaded and installed squid, but it seems ssl support isn't enabled.  what's the easiest way to rebuild squid with ssl support?
[04:14] <parker`> I think most college CS programs are going to be like that
[04:14] <freaks> my installed kernel headers are 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu18    and my installed kernel is 2.6.15-25-386....  but when i ask : " apt-get install linux-kernel-header" i'm being told the latest version is already installed ??
[04:14] <parker`> they don't really teach UNIX or Web dev... that's all IT and stuff
[04:15] <parker`> IT and computational media
[04:15] <parker`> CS is just programming, theory, and some basic hardware usually
[04:15] <slavik> parker`: C/C++/Java are not the world
[04:15] <Primal> does anyone know much about RAM?
[04:15] <slavik> basic hardware?
[04:15] <parker`> but the underlying logic in programming and theory is the world of computers
[04:15] <slavik> I was bored in the only class dealing with hardware and the prof knew it ...
[04:15] <mikeo1> how do i stream a video of my desktop
[04:15] <parker`> UNIX is jsut an application of theory
[04:15] <__mikem> slavik, thats true there is also assembly language
[04:16] <__mikem> lol
[04:16] <slavik> __mikem: I don't like assembly
[04:16] <freaks> how can i get kernel-headers that match my installed kernel ?
[04:16] <__mikem> I love assembly
[04:16] <parker`> assembly is fun lol
[04:16] <rittyan> perl makes you feel connection with outer space :|
[04:16] <slavik> I don't like that level ...
[04:17] <slavik> perl is good ^^
[04:17] <__mikem> yup, I love how the mov opperation doesn't accept 2 memory opperands at once
[04:17] <slavik> java is evil (because it's not eprl)
[04:17] <lophyte> yay netsplit
[04:17] <NickGarvey> !netsplit
[04:17] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:17] <slavik> __mikem: IMO, it should ... be more RISC-like :)
[04:17] <ryanakca> NETSPLIT!
[04:17] <overridex> i just installed dapper for amd64, and while it works fine with the nv driver, when i switch to the nvidia driver my monitor just says "out of range" even with the same refresh rates set as with the nv driver... anyone run into this?
[04:17] <__mikem> What is going on here
[04:18] <freaks> nm my last question i got it..tnx anyway
[04:18] <Primal> I have a question about RAM: are 4 sticks of 256 the same as 2 sticks of 512, performance-wise?
[04:18] <parker`> wow... wtf
[04:18] <parker`> did anyone else just get 50 joins?
[04:18] <__mikem> I got 2
[04:18] <Primal> I have a question about RAM: are 4 sticks of 256 the same as 2 sticks of 512, performance-wise?
[04:18] <HLM> yes
[04:18] <parker`> netsplit?
[04:18] <__mikem> Parker` I think someone is screwing with netsplit
[04:18] <parker`> yep
[04:19] <__mikem> here comes more
[04:19] <__mikem> parker` is this ia good time to call for help
[04:19] <parker`> you know, I think for me, at least, the winning point of Ubunut is also the breaking point of ubuntu, it's easy... I guess I'll never really learn Linux if things are easy, right? I have to break my system and learn how to fix it to really learn Linux, right?
[04:19] <Kyral> parker`: Holy cow someone else shares my style!
[04:20] <lophyte> I learned on Slackware
[04:20] <arapehl> Anyone know what repository I need to use to get Google's Picasa through Synaptic?
[04:20] <__mikem> I learned on mepis
[04:20] <Primal> i don't want to spend money on two new 512 sticks if i'll get the same performance out of just two more (cheaper) 256 sticks
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> parker`: I can attest that you can break Ubuntu...
[04:20] <lophyte> arapehl: I don't think you can.
[04:20] <parker`> lol
[04:20] <root__> anyone eperienced with setting up software raid?
[04:20] <__mikem> YOu can break ubuntu with a recursive rm command
[04:20] <nomasteryoda> tonyyarusso, LOL
[04:20] <Kyral> Someone asked me if I was some 14 year old super genious
[04:20] <__mikem> But I am not allowed to type the exact command in here
[04:20] <arapehl> lophyte: Hmmm, 'cuz a friend of mine says he got it through synaptic... unless I misunderstood him.
[04:21] <Kyral> I'm like "Hell no! I'm a 20 year old CS Student who is just good at breaking his system and fixing it"
[04:21] <overridex> i just installed dapper for amd64, and while it works fine with the nv driver, when i switch to the nvidia driver my monitor just says "out of range" even with the same refresh rates set as with the nv driver... anyone run into this?
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, yu can
[04:21] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[04:21] <__mikem> What is going on here, PEOPLE ARE COMMING AND GOING EVERY OTHER SECOND
[04:21] <parker`> netsplit
[04:21] <Kyral> __mikem: NetSPLIT!
[04:22] <__mikem> Netsplit is giving me a SPLITty headache
[04:22] <Kyral> !netsplit
[04:22] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[04:22] <parker`> so which distro would you guys recommend I use to learn?
[04:22] <parker`> I am a newbie
[04:22] <Quartlow> don't you just hate it when your net splits
[04:22] <Kyral> Arch
[04:22] <Kyral> or Slackware
[04:22] <Raul654> I'm having a mysql problem. I try to log in with 'mysql -u ursulinewiki -p' and then enter my password when prompted
[04:22] <Raul654> (usrsulinewiki is the name of the only account on the machine)
[04:22] <slavik> parker`: learn to do what?
[04:22] <Raul654> erm, ursulineroot
[04:22] <parker`> if Fedora Core also too easy? lol
[04:22] <lophyte> Slackware is great for learning.. but it requires just that, a lot of learning
[04:22] <parker`> learn to do it all! ;)
[04:22] <Kyral> Raul654: and?
[04:23] <slavik> parker`: I managed to break fedora 5 3 times by removing stuff
[04:23] <Raul654> and it denies access
[04:23] <Kyral> parker`: FC is of the devil
[04:23] <lophyte> I started with Redhat 6.2... oh what fun that was.
[04:23] <Raul654> ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'ursulineroot'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[04:23] <__mikem> freebsd is good for people who like being chalanged but it isn't linux
[04:23] <parker`> Kyral: lol why is that?
[04:23] <tonyyarusso> If my net split the two halves would be too thin to exist and it would vanish into thin air.  (Dialup)
[04:23] <Kyral> Raul654: you think that MAYBE you have the wrong PW :P
[04:23] <slavik> parker`: you want to learn? get gentoo
[04:23] <Raul654> no, it's NOT the wrong password
[04:23] <Kyral> parker`: I have a history of not liking FC :P
[04:23] <lophyte> if you really wanna learn, get LFS :P
[04:23] <Kyral> Raul654: dunno
[04:23] <HLM> ,
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free
[04:23] <Kyral> and LFS is icky ;p;
[04:23] <slavik> lophyte: gentoo is lfs IMO
[04:23] <parker`> so I've heard Gentoo, Arch, and Slackware so far to learn on
[04:23] <nomasteryoda> add that to your sources.list
[04:24] <parker`> lfs?
[04:24] <lophyte> slavik: close enough
[04:24] <lophyte> LFS = Linux From Scratch
[04:24] <parker`> ah
[04:24] <HLM> <<< started with Redhat 2.0
[04:24] <Kyral> I followed the instructions and I got fscked over when FOR NO REASON Automake wouldn't compile
[04:24] <lophyte> you essentially build your own system from absolute scratch
[04:24] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: You rock man... thanks!
[04:24] <slavik> parker`: lfs/gentoo teaches a lot ... you do shoot yourself in the head later though
[04:24] <__mikem> who here is an op, because I am getting tired of the flagrent comming and going resulting from the NETSPLIT
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, thank google
[04:24] <brett> Anyone know the syntax for the command line to launch VMWARE with a particular VMX file?  I want a shortcut...
[04:24] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:24] <slavik> ubuntu was my first linux
[04:24] <Kyral> Gentoo == LFS with Scripts
[04:24] <slavik> I messed with freebsd (3.8) back in the day though
[04:24] <lophyte> I've never used Gentoo
[04:24] <Quartlow> <<< just started tonight,, and boy am I lost
[04:24] <Kyral> __mikem: Ops can't do a damn thing about it
[04:24] <ryanakca> how do you set fglrx up to use the proprietary driver instead of mesa?
[04:24] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: I just figure it would be a lot easier to manage through synaptic than to just install manually... y'know?
[04:25] <parker`> does gentoo come bare or something?
[04:25] <Kyral> Portage == Ports bastard inbred brother :P
[04:25] <slavik> ryanakca: fglrx IS the driver
[04:25] <lophyte> I went from Redhat 6.2 to zipslack, to slackware for a while.. then ubuntu
[04:25] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:25] <slavik> ryanakca: search the ubuntu forums for fix on the issue
[04:25] <ryanakca> how do you set fglrx up to use the proprietary open gl lib instead of the mesa one?
[04:25] <root__> ryanakca: fglrx is the proprietary driver
[04:25] <Kyral> parker`: yes. its also a PAIN
[04:25] <__mikem> I couldn't stand just reading about portage
[04:25] <slavik> ryanakca: search the ubuntu forums for fix on the issue
[04:25] <parker`> lol
[04:25] <lophyte> Quartlow: got a problem?
[04:25] <kazukisan> WHen trying to run Bit tornado with a .torrent file i get  a bunch of errors here is one of them File "/home/kazuki/programs/BitTornado-CVS/btdownloadcurses.py", line 138, in _remake_window  self.spewy, self.spewx)
[04:25] <ryanakca> lol, misphrased question
[04:25] <parker`> no pain, no gain, right?
[04:25] <Kyral> parker`: try Arch :P
[04:25] <Kyral> it is VERY bare
[04:25] <parker`> lol
[04:25] <Kyral> hell when you reboot YOU STILL have to set the Root PWD
[04:25] <snoops> parker` the 60 pack manual on installing should give you an indication ;)
[04:26] <parker`> isn't slack also pretty bare?
[04:26] <__mikem> Again, I think freebsd is a good os for people who want to be chalanged, even though its not linux
[04:26] <slavik> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&highlight=fix+mesa+issue
[04:26] <snoops> page, not pack!
[04:26] <Kyral> let alone X
[04:26] <slavik> ryanakca: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=143283&highlight=fix+mesa+issue
[04:26] <Kyral> __mikem: it was simple setting up
[04:26] <lophyte> slack has a package system, but it doesn't keep track of dependancies like DEBs or RPMs
[04:26] <Kyral> just use the Handbook
[04:26] <Quartlow> A little one, I got my cd's today, when I ran the live cd I was able to map my extra drives no problem. after installing it, it won't let me map them
[04:26] <lophyte> so it requires a lot of research when you're installing software
[04:26] <slavik> lophyte: rpms don't keep track of dependencies ... they just want shit\
[04:26] <Kyral> Arch has been desribed as Slack with GOOD Package Management
[04:26] <slavik> yum is no help either
[04:26] <lophyte> true enough
[04:26] <slavik> apt is mature and usable
[04:26] <Kyral> pacman is nice
[04:26] <brett> Any idea how to launch vmaware with a particular VMX file?  II dont want to have to select the VMX via a file browser each time... agitating...
[04:27] <parker`> would FC not be as good to learn on?
[04:27] <__mikem> I set up my freebsd box from their minimalist canned distro
[04:27] <nomasteryoda> brett, did you look on the vmware site?
[04:27] <Kyral> It does too much
[04:27] <slavik> parker`: I say start using ubuntu
[04:27] <lophyte> Quartlow: you mean like windows drives?
[04:27] <Kyral> or Debian :P
[04:27] <Kyral> *DUCK!*
[04:27] <slavik> parker`: after you get confortable, then get something more extreme like gentoo
[04:27] <parker`> I'm on Ubuntu right now, came over from FC5, just testing the waters
[04:27] <slavik> oh
[04:27] <gdb> cd /etc/apt
[04:27] <gdb> ls
[04:27] <brett> Yes.. I can't find it...  blogs.. the whole deal
[04:27] <gdb> doh!
[04:27] <slavik> parker`: whatever it is, pick one
[04:27] <parker`> it's so hard! so many lol
[04:28] <Quartlow> lophyte> yes, had no problem reading them from the live cd
[04:28] <Kyral> I still stand by my initial assesment of Ubuntu
[04:28] <slavik> parker`: all linux distros are similar in that they do similar things differently
[04:28] <Kyral> Debian for Beginners :P
[04:28] <rittyan> my path: asp linux->debian->gentoo->ubuntu (last - because of time... missing gentoo 100% of time)... =_=
[04:28] <noway-> I am looking for a guide for installing Flash on Ubuntu 6, any suggestions?
[04:28] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for regular talk
[04:28] <lophyte> Kyral: also, Debian for people who don't have time to mess around :P
[04:28] <shizz> like non computer talk
[04:28] <slavik> noway-: you nick is the answer :P
[04:28] <Kyral> noway-: its Ubuntu 6.06 :P
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> noway-: (It's 6.06, btw)
[04:28] <slavik> noway-: j/k
[04:28] <lophyte> Quartlow: running 6.06?
[04:29] <slavik> noway-: search for flash on wiki
[04:29] <Kyral> lophyte: nah, apt-get install KDE done :P
[04:29] <noway-> ok
[04:29] <noway-> I have tired the apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:29] <noway-> but it doesnt find the package
[04:29] <Quartlow> thats what the cd says
[04:29] <root__> anyone familiar with software raid?
[04:29] <lophyte> Kyral: I've actually never used Debian, lol
[04:29] <snoops> noway- 32 or 64bit?
[04:30] <gdb> root__: somewhat, what's the issue?
[04:30] <Raul654> Why would I be getting the following error: ursulineroot@Ursulinewiki:~$ /usr/bin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[04:30] <Raul654> -bash: /usr/bin/mysqld: No such file or directory
[04:30] <Kyral> my path: Slack -> Gentoo -> FC -> Ubuntu (path splits here between my laptop and desktop). Laptop (from that route) -> SuSE -> FC -> Debian -> Xubuntu -> Arch
[04:30] <Kyral> Desktop went streight from Ubuntu to Arch
[04:30] <tach00> can someone help me wih a cray keyboard(i think) bug
[04:30] <__mikem> is it just me or are debian distros more common than rpm based distros
[04:30] <Raul654> have I not installed some crucial package?
[04:30] <lophyte> ooo right
[04:30] <lophyte> I used SuSE at work for a while
[04:30] <noway-> snoops: 64
[04:30] <Kyral> Raul654: it might be in /usr/sbin
[04:31] <lophyte> I've also got Novell OES sitting around somewhere
[04:31] <Aralor> I have a question about RAM: are 4 sticks of 256 the same as 2 sticks of 512, performance-wise?
[04:31] <Kyral> Aralor: technically no
[04:31] <gdb> __mikem: debian based distros are more numerous, rpm based distros are more widely installed
[04:31] <Raul654> kyral - yes, good point
[04:31] <jlf> Hi, it seems that the latest version of subversion that apt knows about is 1.3.1, but I am trying to migrate a repository from a 1.3.2 install to my new Ubuntu system.. I am new to Ubuntu and apt, is there some other package collection like 'testing' that might have a newer version of svn?
[04:31] <__mikem> gdb, thats weird
[04:31] <Aralor> kyral, will you please explain?
[04:31] <Kyral> Aralor: technically less sticks are quicker because then it doesn't have to go "further out"
[04:32] <Aralor> what will be "faster"?
[04:32] <Kyral> but we are talking times on the level of fractions of nanoseconds
[04:32] <gdb> __mikem: Well, it's mostly due to the success of Red Hat.  Personally, I fled Fedora (which i still consider good software) for Ubuntu.
[04:32] <moshe> ok... I got the sound card to be the first item in the results of cat /proc/asound/modules
[04:32] <root__> gdb:  , i reinstalled linux like 10 times today and always same issue , it wont mount the raid partitions
[04:32] <moshe> but I still have no sound.  what gives?
[04:32] <snoops> noway- you're going to have a lot of fun then.. there's no 64bit binary flash support.. so you need to have a chroot 32bit installation of firefox or use something like linux32 and install a 32bit version of firefox that way
[04:32] <gdb> __mikem: I've been using Linux since 1994, first with Slackware, then Red Hat, a couple years of NetBSD, back to Red Hat, then Fedora, and now Ubuntu.
[04:32] <Kyral> so basically unless you are REALLY REALLY REALLY strapped for performance, there is no difference
[04:32] <lophyte> Quartlow: if you go to places->computer, what shows up?
[04:32] <gdb> root__: In what context?
[04:32] <__mikem> THe thing about fedora is, I liked it. BUt I don't want to be a guinepig for RHEL
[04:32] <snoops> then from there you can put the flash binaries in the plugins folder for the 32bit version noway-
[04:33] <gdb> root__: Meaning during install, after install, after you've created some, ones you've created previously, etc?
[04:33] <Kyral> i got fscked over by FC
[04:33] <noway-> snoops: oh great sounds like fun :-D
[04:33] <noway-> snoops: thanks man
[04:33] <scanner_X> thanx snoops, i got it
[04:33] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: weird man... I just entered "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable non-free" into the apt line and hit "reload" and the app just disappeared (i.e. crashed ... I think)
[04:33] <Aralor> thanks, Kyral
[04:33] <gdb> One of my attractions to Ubuntu is, frankly, "ubuntu."  I like the concept behind the word.
[04:33] <snoops> noway- there's detailed guides on how to do it in the forums.. ubuntuforums.org probably search for flash and amd64
[04:33] <snoops> :)
[04:33] <Kyral> I was supposed to create a lab build for my linux lab based on Ubuntu. Spent a month on it. Then like 2 days before we were set to install, they said "Nope! We are using FC"
[04:33] <lophyte> gdb: same here.. I like the concept
[04:33] <snoops> cool beans scanner_X
[04:34] <Kyral> lophyte: read the FSF website :P
[04:34] <witless> i'm building a package from source.  do i have to specify all the ./configure options i want, or just the ones that are different from the ubuntu defaults?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, did you do it from the command line?
[04:34] <root__> gdb: i create them fro scratch every time , then after linux installs and boots for the first time it sais something about mgic bit
[04:34] <__mikem> gdb, the definition of ubuntu very closely corolates with the principles of open source, thats why they chose it.
[04:34] <gdb> If you want flash, then I'd recommend this software to install it: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[04:34] <Kyral> witless: everything
[04:34] <lophyte> Kyral: for what?
[04:34] <nomasteryoda> that is best way arapehl
[04:34] <witless> Kyral: thanks
[04:34] <gdb> __mikem: Yes, I realize that.
[04:34] <ryanakca> ok, how do you upgrade to a 686 kernel from 386 kernel? "sudo aptitude install fglrx-kernel-2.6.15-25-686 linux-image-2.6.15-25-686 linux-686 linux-restricted-modules-686 linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686"?
[04:34] <root__> gdb: magic bit , or something , and none of my raid partitions work
[04:34] <witless> Kyral: where can i get the defaults ubuntu uses?
[04:34] <pdub> noway: I finally gave up and re-installed with 32 bit instead - life is much easier now
[04:34] <noway-> snoops: ok, I will give it a shot, thanks
[04:34] <Kyral> lophyte: you will find that Ubuntu Philosopy is based heavily on the FSF philosopy
[04:34] <witless> (this is a package gotten via apt-get source <package>
[04:35] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: You've got to understand, I'm like REALLY really new at this... I hit the "custom" button and there's a field you can enter it into.  That's where I entered it.
[04:35] <gdb> root__: So these are partitions you've created previous to installing? And where are they?  The boot drive or some other disks?
[04:35] <Kyral> witless: sudo apt-get source <package>
[04:35] <lophyte> Kyral: yeah, it is definitely
[04:35] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: I guess I can just as easily do it through the terminal huh?
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, have you ever edited a text file on windows?...
[04:35] <noway-> pdub: thats what I am thinking, 64 has just been a pain
[04:35] <Healot> could we say Ubuntu is a religion, bleh
[04:35] <Quartlow> lophyte> it shows the main HD a 250 gig WD its partitioned into 3 drives it shows my 40 gig wd which is they ubuntu drive annd my cd drives, the only one I can access is the xbuntu drive. if i try the others it says   unable to mount selected volume
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> yes
[04:35] <witless> Kyral: ok, so where are the ./configure options that are used for the ubuntu package?  i just want to change one option
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> sudo -s
[04:35] <jlf> Anyone: is there a way I can tell apt I want newer, possibly testing/unstable packages?
[04:35] <Kyral> witless: unhhh, dunno :P
[04:35] <arapehl> going there now, hang on
[04:35] <witless> ok, thanks
[04:35] <Kyral> witless: what app?
[04:35] <__mikem> I am already catholic. BUt as long as ubuntu remains the rock solid OS it is, I will always use it
[04:35] <root__> gdb: no, i have /boot on a single partition , then i have /home / and /swap raided
[04:35] <pdub> noway- : I have a dozen AMD64 shuttles all running 32 bit now
[04:35] <witless> kyncani: squid
[04:35] <gdb> Ubuntu is a way of life.  It underpins the concept of an open society. ;-)
[04:35] <witless> Kyral: squid
[04:35] <Kyral> ...doh!
[04:35] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, then gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:36] <Kyral> lol
[04:36] <Quartlow> lophyte> ironicly it will let me access the usb drive which is a windows drive
[04:36] <pdub> noway- : no diff in speed from 64
[04:36] <lampshade> I heard about something like being able to do a search, and then bookmark that search as if it is a folder or something like that.  Anyone know what I'm talking about?
[04:36] <auk> i'm having trouble w/ gnome-btdownload
[04:36] <gdb> You guys need to watch the Nelson Mandela video in /usr/share/example-content/Experience ubuntu.ogg ;-)
[04:36] <auk> it won't resume downloading
[04:36] <lophyte> Quartlow: is the 250GB NTFS or FAT?
[04:36] <Kyral> witless: some programs have a flag that dumps their configure options
[04:36] <nomasteryoda> ubuntu is very good stuff
[04:36] <Kyral> I dunno if Squid has one
[04:37] <Quartlow> lophyte> i don't remember i do believe it is ntfs
[04:37] <lophyte> Quartlow: hit alt+F2 and run gksudo nautilus
[04:37] <root__> gdb: i did have software raid with x64 , it worked well , now i installed x32 and id doesnt want to work
[04:37] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: I'm in the file now (sudo -s asked for a pw, and I"m not logged in as root... I just hit enter and it brought me back to the prompt... that's okay?)... btw, I'm a noob at Linux (have a bit of knowledge, but just a bit) but I'm not a noob overall..
[04:37] <auk> i first got an error saying that i was out of disk space, so i made space (by deleting old isos that i had cached) and hit OK on the error dialog
[04:37] <Kyral> First thing all newbies need to learn
[04:37] <Kyral> THE TERMINAL IS YOUR FRIEND :P
[04:37] <lophyte> Quartlow: once nautilus comes up, hit ctrl+l and type computer://
[04:38] <arapehl> nomasteryoda: heh, the line is in the file already... I guess it added it before it bombed...
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, you are the sudo user if you are first user on system
[04:38] <auk> when it didn't resume on it's own, i hit 'Stop' and then hit 'Resume'
[04:38] <jlf> Anyone: is there a way I can tell apt I want newer, possibly testing/unstable packages?
[04:38] <arapehl> lemme go kill the process and restart it.
[04:38] <auk> but it sits :(
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:38] <arapehl> yep, that I am... /me = sudo
[04:38] <noway-> pdub: yeah, i figure there is no real reason to be 64bit on the desktop...
[04:38] <lophyte> Kyral: I use the terminal a hell of a lot more than I use GUI... but for some reason, I like to use GUI when I'm teaching people
[04:38] <Kyral> jlf: if you have all the repos enabled then no
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, then do this...  apt-get update
[04:38] <nomasteryoda> and apt-get upgrade
[04:38] <hanasaki> i just did a fresh dapper install and a website is crashing firefox.. will someone check it for me and see if you crash too?   i will walk you throuigh the screens to the crash in priv msg
[04:39] <Kyral> lophyte: I like using the terminal, because then you pull some sick ass bash-fu and they go "Whoa...how can I learn how to do that?"
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, your password you use for the sudo user in other words
[04:39] <arapehl> apt-get install gave me a security error (Even though I'm sudo)... said "are you root?" and kicked me out.
 got this Could not retrieve information about the file   error accessing 'file:///home/robert/computer%3A%2F%2F': Invalid URI
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> arapehl, you have to sudo apt-get update...
[04:39] <nomasteryoda> then enter password
[04:40] <gdb> root__: I've never been successful in getting the boot device mirrored and I tried for hours. ;-)  I assume you're creating these using the Live CD and then running the installer?  You may be better advised to install the system normally and then manually "encapsulate" the boot device. I use quotes because Linux does not support actual disk encapsulation.
[04:40] <lophyte> Quartlow: when the textbox comes up when you hit ctrl+l, make sure you clear it out before typing computer:// ... just like entering a new URL in a web browser
[04:41] <auk> anyone?
[04:41] <jlf> Anyone: is there a way I can tell apt I want newer, possibly testing/unstable packages?
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> auk, what?
[04:41] <Adam1> damn, my isp's dns servers are down... are there public ones someone can give the the IPs for?
[04:41] <root__> gdb:no , im setting it up with the normal install , the alternative cd ,  , and im doing raid0 partitions , no mirroring ,
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> jlf, yes
[04:41] <arapehl> nomasteryoda:  sh*t! I just found what bombed it... I previously entered only the URL and not "deb ..." so it just breaks when it hits that line
[04:41] <lophyte> Adam1: 206.47.244.51
[04:41] <Adam1> thx
[04:41] <auk> nomasteryoda: you can read the scrollback, or i can reiterate if you like :)
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> ah
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> ok
[04:41] <gdb> hanasaki: Are you the same hanasaki from kulua-l?
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> i'll go back
[04:41] <lophyte> Adam1: those should be publically accessible
[04:42] <Quartlow> Lophyte,,still did not work
[04:42] <jlf> nomasteryoda: how can I do that?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> jlf, you using xchat?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> !tell jlf about sources
[04:42] <gdb> root__: Oh dear.  So you're trying to concatenate the / partition?
[04:42] <lophyte> Quartlow: you're in nautilus, right? the file manager?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> !sources
[04:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:42] <__mikem> root__ you are not logged in as root and talking on irc are you?
[04:42] <jlf> nomasteryoda: no just cmd line
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> jlf, look at that
[04:43] <gdb> root__: I'm not sure that's psossible.
[04:43] <arapehl> sweet... it's working... nomasteryoda you're the man, man. :)
[04:43] <jlf> nomasteryoda: thx i will
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> awe shucks, thanks arapehl
[04:43] <Quartlow> now i am LOL
[04:43] <arapehl> so apt-update first then apt-upgrade, right?
[04:43] <nomasteryoda> auk, so you ran out of disk space huh?
[04:43] <auk> nomasteryoda: i solved my problem
[04:43] <lophyte> Quartlow: in nautilus, click the Go menu and choose Computer
[04:44] <root__> gdb: i had it working with x64
[04:44] <lophyte> Quartlow: that'll be a bit easier ;)
[04:44] <amarokker> Hi, is there anyone here using the gutenbrowser?
[04:44] <gdb> root__: Ah, and what was different about that installation?
[04:44] <mikeo1> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:44] <auk> nomasteryoda, then i cleared enough space (deleted two isos that i had saved)
[04:44] <Quartlow> Ok show the drives
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> amarokker, that think is kinda dorky
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> ic
[04:44] <gdb> You know, this quote from the topic of #ubuntu-offtopic is funny -> Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning cant install Debian
[04:44] <lophyte> Quartlow: can you access them?
[04:44] <amarokker> nomasteryoda: better ideas?
[04:44] <Pharaoh_Atem> how do i install ndiswrapper on ubuntu breezy badger?
[04:44] <lophyte> LOL@gdb
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> natm
[04:44] <amarokker> I hate using a text editor to read it
[04:44] <__mikem> gdb lol
[04:45] <Quartlow> unable to mount selected volume   error: device /dev/hda6 is not removable
[04:45] <Quartlow> error: could not execute pmount
[04:45] <lophyte> wtf
[04:45] <__mikem> Does that mean, that the user is not allowed to install debian or that he is unable to install ubuntu
[04:45] <lophyte> k, terminal time
[04:45] <root__> gdb: nothing , i did exactly same thing , it just doesnt work
[04:45] <auk> nomasteryoda: but i just discovered that starting gnome-btdownload w/ the same original torrent fiel and with teh same save location gets teh program to do a quick scan of the previous, then pick up where it left off
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> amarokker, ya i agree.. but i think i installed a testing version or unstable and it works  now
[04:45] <mikeo1> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:45] <auk> so it's ok
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> good
[04:45] <lophyte> Quartlow: open up a terminal and type sudo mount
[04:45] <lophyte> and paste the output to me in a private message
[04:45] <amarokker> nomasteryoda: i'd better try that then.
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> yup
[04:46] <arapehl> w00t w00t! Picasa here I come!
[04:46] <lecaros> Pharaoh_Atem what you wanna do
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> just search google for the gutenbrowser
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> should show up .. then look for .deb repos
[04:46] <nomasteryoda> good luck
[04:46] <Quartlow> ok it returned a bunch of stuff
[04:46] <gdb> root__: Well, I apologize, I've not the experience with boot device raid (under Linux) to be much help.
[04:46] <lophyte> paste it to me in a private message
[04:46] <Raul654> simple question - is there a program that lets me configure which servers get turned on and off, and which options they start with?
[04:47] <root__> gdb: ok , no problem , thanks for helping
[04:47] <Raul654> (get turned on and off at boot time, that is)
[04:47] <__mikem> gdb why do people continue to leave and enter like they are getting paid for every reentry into this room
[04:47] <mikeo1> xvidcap: error while loading shared libraries: libpng.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:47] <mikeo1> how do i fix that
[04:47] <mikeo1> i already installed the libpng libraries
[04:47] <gdb> __mikem: If you're asking me, I swapped from irssi (what I use at work) to xchat (what I prefer at home).
[04:48] <mikeo1> and copied them to /lib32 since it was a 32 bit package
[04:48] <Glimmerati> i have downloaded w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb for wmv/wma & used command sudo dpkg -i ...... but i m not sure if really installed or not......can anyone plz tell me how can i be sure if it is installed or not?
[04:48] <scanner_1> why wont amarok play any of my music
[04:48] <scanner_1> it says its playing it, but it doesn't
[04:48] <gdb> Glimmerati: dpkg --get-selections w32\*
[04:48] <softgcell> who is feeling charitable?? Windows convert as of today..got the dapper...thingie...anyway, I have some newbie questions...
[04:49] <gdb> Glimmerati: it should say "install" in the second column.
[04:49] <lophyte> !mp3 > scanner_1
[04:49] <__mikem> scanner_1 what kind of files are they
[04:49] <orbin> Glimmerati: dpkg -l <package>
[04:49] <Quartlow> lophyte,, did you get it?
[04:49] <lophyte> Quartlow: nope
[04:49] <scanner_1> _mikem: mp3's and a podcast stream
[04:49] <jme> !ubotu > jme
[04:50] <lophyte> !mp3
[04:50] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <Raul654> What is the name of the program that lets me configure which servers start at boot time and the options they boot with?
[04:50] <lophyte> read that, scanner_1
[04:50] <__mikem> theres your problem, you need to do what that last ubotu message said
[04:50] <Glimmerati> (Reading database ... 59723 files and directories currently installed.)Preparing to replace w32codecs 1:20060611-0.0 (using w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb) ...Unpacking replacement w32codecs ...Setting up w32codecs (20060611-0.0) ... and it stops here
[04:50] <lophyte> softgcell: I got a few minutes... what's up?
[04:50] <GOwin> got a quickie: after upgrading to dapper. my system now starts xfce automatically. i want to revert to manually starting it via startxfce
[04:50] <jme> !ask
[04:50] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:50] <scanner_1> _mikem: the last url?
[04:50] <__mikem> !mp3
[04:50] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:50] <gdb> Glimmerati: Did you run any of the suggested commands to verify that it's installed?
[04:50] <__mikem> that
[04:50] <scanner_1> i know, which link though?
[04:51] <DrKevorkian> anyone know a good terminal emulator?
[04:51] <lophyte> the first one, scanner_1
[04:51] <gdb> DrKevorkian: gnome-terminal? ;-)
[04:51] <scanner_1> okay
[04:51] <softgcell> you are a god among men......seriously, a new convert.    (ubuntu) terminal = run command (windows)???
[04:51] <gdb> DrKevorkian: What are your requirements?
[04:51] <Quartlow> Lophyte, did it come through that time
[04:51] <Raul654> What is the name of the program that lets me configure which servers start at boot time and the options they boot with?
[04:51] <DrKevorkian> something with a find feature
[04:51] <lophyte> softgcell: a terminal in ubuntu is essentially the same thing as the command prompt in windows
[04:51] <lophyte> Quartlow: nope... :\
[04:51] <lophyte> !pastebin
[04:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <__mikem> computers are just like airconditioning, if you open windows, they don't work
[04:51] <Quartlow> arghhhhhhh
[04:51] <softgcell> i knew it. sweet. what is dapper????
[04:52] <lophyte> Quartlow: try using that website there... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:52] <lophyte> softgcell: dapper is the codename of the newest release, 6.06
[04:52] <gdb> DrKevorkian: For finding what?  Files?  Text in a file?  What?
[04:52] <__mikem> Where are all these people comming from
[04:52] <DrKevorkian> text displayed in the terminal
[04:52] <gdb> softgcell: Dapper is Ubuntu 6.06 LTS aka the Dapper Drake
[04:52] <Glimmerati> when i use dpkg -l it says "No packages found matching w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb.
[04:52] <Glimmerati> "
[04:52] <softgcell> __mikem: http:///www.ubuntu.com/support IRC help
[04:52] <gdb> DrKevorkian: Ah, not sure if konsole does that or not as I do not use KDE.
[04:53] <orbin> Glimmerati: just use w32codecs
[04:53] <DrKevorkian> i use gnome too anyway
[04:53] <Raul654> I need to force mysql to start with the --skip-grant-tables option. How do I do this?
[04:53] <atsugnam> Glimmerati, the package won't have the exact same name as the deb, try dropping .deb from the end
[04:53] <orbin> i.e. dpkg -l w32codecs  ... if it has ii on thel left, it's installed
[04:53] <gdb> DrKevorkian: The main terminal software applications for Linux are xterm, rxvt, gnome-terminal, and konsole.  None of the former support that.  I don't know if the latter does.
[04:53] <softgcell> thanks lophyte! so if my "sources.list" is read only.....what then?? if I need to edit it???
[04:53] <gdb> Glimmerati: dpkg --get-selections w32\* -- look for the word "install" in the second column.
[04:54] <DrKevorkian> well thanks for the info
[04:54] <lophyte> softgcell: sources.list is read-only if you're trying to read it as a regular user :)
[04:54] <lophyte> softgcell: if you need to edit it, from the command line: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <lophyte> sudo switches your access to the root user, kinda like runas in Windows
[04:55] <Glimmerati> No packages found matching w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.
[04:55] <Quartlow> ok Lophyte where did that send it to
[04:55] <lophyte> Quartlow: did it give you a URL to give back to me?
[04:55] <VE> hey i have a asus a8n sli premium mobo with an 8.1 sound card on board i just recently got a 5.1 sound system yet its only givinv me 2 channel audio any ideas on how to enable 5 channel?
[04:55] <Quartlow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16809
[04:55] <Quartlow> cool
[04:55] <softgcell> OHHHHHHHH, people need you man. just a few more. terminal would be the "default" command line for me right?
[04:56] <kolaje> I have a toshiba satelite laptop, with a geforce4 420 go video card, in windows i found a driver with an altered .inf file so that the newer nvidia drivers would work for it, is there anything like that in linux?
[04:56] <hedonistic> Anyone be willing to help an ubuntu newcomer to get a functioning wireless connection? (BTW, this is the first time I've ever used gaim)
[04:56] <Pharaoh_Yugi> does Ubuntu breezy badger come with ndiswrapper?
[04:56] <Pharaoh_Yugi> at least the kernel modules?
[04:56] <lophyte> Quartlow: okay, try typing sudo mount /dev/hda1
[04:56] <softgcell> hedonistic: join the club bro.....
[04:56] <Pharaoh_Yugi> because i couldnt find the kernel modules anywhere on the site
[04:56] <Toma-> Favorite 80's band: 'sudo echo' :D
[04:56] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi why havn't you upgraded to dapper drake yet?
[04:56] <pschulz01_> !xubuntu
[04:56] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:56] <Glimmerati> it is not working....can u plz come from the top...i m new here
[04:57] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i cant
[04:57] <__mikem> Why not
[04:57] <lophyte> softgcell: there's many different programs that emulate a command line in Linux
[04:57] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i couldnt even launch the CDs to run the upgrade
[04:57] <lophyte> softgcell: the terminal in Ubuntu is the primary one
[04:57] <Quartlow>  can't find /dev/hda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[04:57] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, also, i cannot access the internet
[04:57] <softgcell> and terminal would be ok for this??
[04:57] <pschulz01_> Is there an install cd iso for xebuntu?
[04:57] <lophyte> softgcell: yup
[04:57] <gdb> Pharaoh_Yugi: You're a candidate for the alternatives CD then.  I'm assuming the live CD did not work for you.
[04:58] <Pharaoh_Yugi> gdb, both of them didnt
[04:58] <gdb> ah
[04:58] <__mikem> gdb he said he has no internet access
[04:58] <orbin> Glimmerati: read the posts directed to you
[04:58] <Pharaoh_Yugi> at least, not on the ubuntu machine
[04:58] <Pharaoh_Yugi> because the wifi NEEDS ndiswrapper
[04:58] <softgcell> I think that might be exactly what i needed... sooo, dapper no likey admin?? I wonder why??
[04:58] <gdb> __mikem: He said he couldn't launch the CD which is not something that requires Internet access.
[04:58] <Pharaoh_Yugi> and so does the regular ethernet
[04:58] <__mikem> I did a clean install of dapper.
[04:58] <lophyte> Quartlow: okay, try sudo mkdir /media/hda1 and hit enter, then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[04:58] <gdb> Pharaoh_Yugi: SneakerNet? ;)
[04:59] <tjs> anyone running dapper on parallels?
[04:59] <tjs> with any success?
[04:59] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, the CDs cannot launch, so i cant do a clean install either
[04:59] <Pharaoh_Yugi> breezy badger works though
[04:59] <ryanakca> whats the command to list the hard drives, they're memory, they're format, etc?
[04:59] <Pharaoh_Yugi> and i spent 19 hours figuring out sound
[04:59] <libdmb> is 73 degrees for a GPU bad?
[04:59] <Pharaoh_Yugi> and i spent 4 hours installing it
[04:59] <tjs> __mikem: is this mikem from melbourne AU ?
[04:59] <lophyte> ryanakca: df or mount
[04:59] <Glimmerati> sorry no posts yet....
[04:59] <hedonistic> I'll just throw this out there...Broadcom 4311 card, ndiswrapper -l = driver installed, hardware present, wlan0 is active, can see essid in network manager, but can't connect - any suggestions?
[05:00] <__mikem> tjs no I am from florida
[05:00] <tjs> k
[05:00] <Quartlow> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda1,
[05:00] <Quartlow>        missing codepage or other error
[05:00] <Quartlow>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:00] <Quartlow>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:00] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi do the breazy badger live cds work
[05:00] <Pharaoh_Yugi> hedonistic, you probably have a weak signal
[05:00] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, yes
[05:00] <__mikem> Well, it aint a bios issue
[05:00] <hedonistic> I'm sitting right next to the router
[05:00] <__mikem> What happens when you try to use the dapper cds
[05:00] <orbin> ryanakca: fdisk -l
[05:00] <Pharaoh_Yugi> hedonistic, check interference
[05:00] <ryanakca> lophyte: kk, ty
[05:01] <softgcell> lophyte: I am soo in over my head. thanks dude
[05:01] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, well, it shows the menu, then after i select an option, the kernel starts
[05:01] <hedonistic> I'm a newbie, what does 'check interface' mean?
[05:01] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, then it panicks
[05:01] <__mikem> What message does it display
[05:01] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, and then it immediately turns off
[05:01] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, something about invalid CPU
[05:02] <__mikem> Invalid CPU...Makes absolutely no sence
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, the CPU is an AMD K6 2 3DNow!
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> 400MHz
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> with 400MB of RAM
[05:02] <Quartlow> Lophyte,, i changed the ntfs to vfat and it did NOT return any errors
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> and 75GB hard disk
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> Compaq Presario 5190
[05:02] <__mikem> Do you know what archetecture the cd you downloaded was for
[05:02] <Pharaoh_Yugi> i386
[05:03] <fdelacruz> hi guys
[05:03] <Pharaoh_Yugi> and then i got the Dapper CDs in the mail, and those didnt work either
[05:03] <hedonistic> Pharaoh_Yugi, could you elaborate on what you mean by 'check interface'?
[05:03] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi, did you try the live cd
[05:03] <Pharaoh_Yugi> hedonistic, check for other stuff, like microwaves and ovens that may be messing up signal
[05:03] <scanner_1> hey, can someone tell me of a good media player, that will play podcast, streams, mp3's, etc.  for gnome
[05:03] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i tried both
[05:03] <Raul654> how do I force mysql to start with the --skip-grant-tables option?
[05:03] <__mikem> What happened with the live?
[05:04] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, same thing, except it showed a different error
[05:04] <__mikem> and that was?
[05:04] <Quartlow> Lophyte,,, now how do I get it to do that automaticly when it boots is the question
[05:04] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, no address spaces
[05:04] <Raul654> is there an 'etc or rc.d file I have to tweak?
[05:04] <lophyte> Quartlow: ahh, so they're vfat eh
[05:04] <hedonistic> The signal is strong, wireless connection is fine in windows, network manager even shows a full strength signal, it just won't connect, no matter if security is disabled, or its WPA or WEP
[05:04] <lophyte> Quartlow: sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[05:04] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, something like that
[05:04] <__mikem> also nonsensical. I am afraid this is beyond my knowlege.
[05:04] <Raul654> anyone?
[05:05] <arapehl> Uhm, what IRC client do you suggest? (you being all 600+ of you in the channel)... I'm needing to get away from GAIM.
[05:05] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi try to find someone who can help with that problem.
[05:05] <lophyte> !fs
[05:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about fs
[05:05] <Quartlow> Wow whats this ?
[05:05] <spades> RadiantFire just run that manually, youre trying to change the root pass right?
[05:05] <lophyte> !fstab
[05:05] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[05:05] <orbin> arapehl: i like xchat
[05:05] <Glimmerati> sorry no posts yet....
[05:05] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i will, but i think the best way is through APT
[05:05] <lophyte> !partitions
[05:05] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[05:05] <Kibou> arapehl: irssi
[05:05] <spades> Raul654  just run that manually, youre trying to change the root pass right?
[05:05] <lophyte> Quartlow: I gotta run, take a look at http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[05:05] <Pharaoh_Yugi> arapehl, go with Xchat on GUI
[05:05] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room?
[05:05] <Raul654> Spades - forget changing the root password
[05:05] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi, upgrading the distro will result in an extermely dirty install, I don't recomend it
[05:05] <Quartlow> ok thanks
[05:05] <lophyte> Quartlow: you have to add a line into that file, and it'll automount what's in there
[05:06] <shizz> for non computer talk
[05:06] <Raul654> running it with  --skip-grant-tables definitely works
[05:06] <shizz> hello hello hello hello hello hello
[05:06] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i know, but it is a clean breezy install
[05:06] <Raul654> so I just want to change the bootup to do that
[05:06] <shizz> hello hello hello hello hello hello
[05:06] <__mikem> !ops
[05:06] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:06] <Quartlow> good enough I can probably beat it around now that im headed in the right direction
[05:06] <arapehl> xchat... k, cool
[05:06] <Hobbsee> __mikem: ?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <LoRez> Warning: `shizz' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[05:06] <shizz> does anyone know of a good chat room for non computer talk?
[05:06] <__mikem> any more questions Hobbsee
[05:06] <L-----D> 
[05:06] <__mikem> lol sorry
[05:06] <Raul654> Spades - so how do I change mysql'd startup options?
[05:07] <spades> Raul654 check in /etc/init.d/ for the mysqld start script and see if it can be edited to use the skip option
[05:07] <Hobbsee> __mikem: lovely, thanks
[05:07] <__mikem> anytime
[05:07] <Raul654> would it be mysql, mysql-ndb, or mysql-ndb-mgm ?
[05:07] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, how do i get ndiswrapper on breezy without compiling or anything
[05:07] <koolio> hi everyone
[05:07] <spades> Raul654 check them all i guess, or check which is linked in /etc/rcS.d
[05:07] <__mikem> I never used it, I really don't know
[05:08] <lophyte|s> night all
[05:08] <L-----D> is zsh a better choice over bash?
[05:08] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, i cant find the ndiswrapper package on ubuntu packages site
[05:08] <Glimmerati> orbin i havent received any posts yet
[05:08] <spades> Pharaoh_Yugi apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:08] <Pharaoh_Yugi> spades, is that it?
[05:08] <spades> i think yes
[05:08] <NickGarvey> L-----D: depend on who you ask ;) I perfer fish personally
[05:08] <Edvinas> init.c:204: error: label at end of compound statement
[05:08] <Edvinas>  What's wrong?
[05:08] <Pharaoh_Yugi> then that means the module is in the kernel already
[05:08] <tct> does ubuntu have a distribution similar to debian sarge or even more uptodate?
[05:08] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi, you might have to enable some repositories
[05:09] <orbin> Glimmerati: yes you did.  have you tried: dpkg --get-selections w32\* or dpkg -l w32codecs?
[05:09] <koolio> just downloaded ubuntu server and can't get it to recognize my d-link dwl-g520 wifi card.  Can anyone help?
[05:09] <spades> Pharaoh_Yugi do a ndiswrapper -l and see if its found and lists any drivers
[05:09] <Pharaoh_Yugi> i will
[05:09] <buddha132> hello
[05:10] <buddha132> anyone want give a frew helpful words to a problem with a PPC install of 6.06?
[05:10] <Raul654> spades - at bootup, it looks like it runs /etc/mysql/debian-start
[05:10] <spades> Raul654 check the file then :)
[05:11] <Raul654> well, it reads like this:
[05:11] <Raul654> MYADMIN="/usr/bin/mysqladmin --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf"
[05:11] <Raul654> MYCHECK="/usr/bin/mysqlcheck --defaults-file=/etc/mysql/debian.cnf"
[05:11] <Raul654> MYCHECK_SUBJECT="WARNING: mysqlcheck has found corrupt tables"
[05:11] <Raul654> MYCHECK_PARAMS="--all-databases --fast --silent"
[05:11] <root__> what gui partitioning tool recognises software raid?
[05:11] <spades> !paste
[05:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:11] <Raul654> I have no idea which one I should modify
[05:11] <spades> try the params line
[05:11] <Edvinas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16813 What's wrong?
[05:11] <Pharaoh_Yugi> yep
[05:11] <Raul654> DOH
[05:11] <Raul654> yes, you are probably right
[05:11] <__mikem> ray
[05:11] <Pharaoh_Yugi> the kernel includes ndiswrapper
[05:12] <__mikem> !ping
[05:12] <ubotu> pong
[05:12] <Pharaoh_Yugi> but the utilities to use it are not installed
[05:12] <buddha132> !? how do i intiate installation from a live disk (6.06 PPC)
[05:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about ? how do i intiate installation from a live disk (6.06 PPC)
[05:12] <__mikem> lol I love that
[05:12] <Savage> hell yess im finally getting ubuntu working
[05:12] <Pharaoh_Yugi> which really doesnt make sense
[05:12] <Glimmerati> when I use dpkg --get-selections w32\*  it shows two coloms w32codecs and install
[05:12] <Pharaoh_Yugi> !ping
[05:12] <lib8264q> hi iv downloaded the kde-core files on another pc and have burned them to disk  whats the best command to install them onto another machine ?
[05:12] <Edvinas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16813 What's wrong?
[05:12] <__mikem> Pharaoh_Yugi It probably pm'd you
[05:12] <pickledbushman> say ive got a log, i have to watch closely in terminal, is there some way i can run the command so the second anything is logged i can see it live?
[05:12] <someothernick> buddha132: click install icon on desktop
[05:12] <Pharaoh_Yugi> lib8264q, dpkg -i kdecore*.deb
[05:12] <buddha132> lol that wourld be it
[05:12] <lib8264q> cool ..
[05:12] <spades> pickledbushman tail -f
[05:12] <lib8264q> thankyou
[05:12] <kolaje> when i startx it says it can't find /dev/wacom"
[05:12] <Pharaoh_Yugi> __mikem, nope, no response
[05:13] <pickledbushman> thank you spades
[05:13] <Edvinas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16813 What's wrong?
[05:13] <buddha132> someothernick: the simpelist things are always the hardest. thanks
[05:13] <__mikem> interesting
[05:13] <__mikem> !ping
[05:13] <ubotu> pong
[05:13] <kolaje> when i startx it says it can't find "/dev/wacom".  it starts anyway, but what the hell is that?
[05:13] <someothernick> buddha132: np :)
[05:13] <Tedd> kolaje, Wacom is at ablet
[05:13] <Glimmerati> when I use dpkg -l w32codecs it says Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
[05:14] <root__> yoooo , what is a gui partitioning tool that works with software raid?????
[05:14] <Healot> why ubuntu's Xorg include wacom entry in the first place?
[05:14] <buddha132> should i disregard the flood of error dialog boxes at startup of the live disk? (iBook G4 6.06 ppc install)
[05:14] <Glimmerati> now what should i do?
[05:14] <Healot> Fedora Core Disk Druid
[05:14] <Edvinas> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16813 What's wrong?
[05:14] <Pharaoh_Yugi> !ping
[05:14] <ubotu> pong
[05:14] <Pharaoh_Yugi> NOW it works
[05:14] <arapehl_> k, I'm on xchat now
[05:14] <kolaje> Tedd: do i just ignore that then, nothing is wrong?
[05:14] <hyphenated> Glimmerati: it says that for everything. it's the last line you should be looking at
[05:14] <Tedd> kolaje, do you have a tablet?
[05:14] <__mikem> ubotu good bot
[05:15] <Pharaoh_Yugi> alright
[05:15] <kolaje> well I don't think so
[05:15] <kolaje> I don't necissarily know what a "tablet" is
[05:15] <Pharaoh_Yugi> im about to restart and run the live cd to grab some packages
[05:15] <__mikem> Ubotu appears to be on the fritz today
[05:15] <Glimmerati> ok......Now what can I do running it?
[05:15] <Tedd> kolaje, then you don't, nothin's wrong
[05:15] <kolaje> Tedd: thanks :)
[05:16] <Tedd> kolaje, no big, from one who uses a tablet to draw his comic :P
[05:16] <Jack_Smirnoff> RadiantFire:  You here...
[05:16] <haasteem> hi, where do i change font settings for the menu, button bar and such in thunderbird? i have done it now in the .gtkrc-2.0 file but there is a discrepancy between firefox and thunderbird... all looks ok in firefox with FreeSans 9, but in thunderbird, it is way too small
[05:16] <kolaje> Tedd:  oh a digital tablet thing, those are cool
[05:16] <Tedd> okay, so I don't draw the comic, I make fillers
[05:16] <kolaje> lol
[05:16] <slippn> Anyone here use rox-filer and  know if you can import launchers/mime stuff from nautilus?
[05:16] <Tedd> I just make shit like that with Photoshop.
[05:16] <spades> Tedd atleast youre not a tracer
[05:17] <Tedd> www.glareallyouwant.com
[05:17] <Tedd> spades, was that...a Chasing Amy Reference?
[05:17] <kbrosnan> haasteem, I told you in mozilla's thunderbird http://kb.mozillazine.org/Pane_and_menu_fonts
[05:17] <spades> yea :D
[05:17] <Tedd> spades, you are AWESOME.
[05:18] <CwazyBill> Noobie here... am trying to install Ubuntu Dapper on my Windoz machine... keeps hanging at 60% for about half hr - and then I restart the install again.. am looking at 60% again. Is this normal or should I get busy downloading a new ISO?
[05:18] <root__> yoooo , what is a gui partitioning tool that works with software raid?????
[05:18] <Toma-> CwazyBill: run a media check on the cd
[05:18] <Glimmerati> hyphenated .......would u plz tell Now what can I do running it?
[05:19] <hyphenated> Glimmerati: what was the _last_ line of output when you ran dpkg -l w32codecs
[05:19] <Glimmerati> should I download it again...and run it? or
[05:19] <CwazyBill> Thanks Toma.... I'm guessing it isn't normal then.
[05:19] <ubuntu> hello
[05:19] <Toma-> CwazyBill: normal is a perfect install ;)
[05:19] <Jack_Smirnoff> It really sucks when someone like RadiantFire helps you and ends up wiping my XP then ignores you and refuses to acknowledge he dropped me in the middle of a pile of s... Sorry for venting but that was WRONG...
[05:19] <Glimmerati> ii  w32codecs      20060611-0.0   win32 binary codecs
[05:19] <CwazyBill> Riiighhtt
[05:20] <Glimmerati> this is the exactly the last line
[05:20] <hyphenated> Glimmerati: so it's installed. pat yourself on the back and be happy
[05:20] <Glimmerati> I wish i would but it is not working.....   :(
[05:21] <hyphenated> Glimmerati: _what_ isn't working?
[05:21] <TheTrueFlesh> do  you think its a good idea to hae both ubuntu and win xp on the same computer?
[05:21] <TheTrueFlesh> have*
[05:21] <hyphenated> TheTrueFlesh: *shrug* lots of people do it
[05:21] <__mikem> TheTRueFlesh, if youuse vmware its perfectly safe
[05:21] <CwazyBill> Bye guys Thanks, Bill
[05:21] <Glimmerati> my wma files are not supported by xmms/totem/gxine/mplayer
[05:21] <ruxpin> oh my .. i386 is _slow_ on p4.. can I expect a i686 release?
[05:21] <spades> TheTrueFlesh as long as grub is the bootloader since windows' one wont have the ubuntu install location to boot
[05:21] <Jack_Smirnoff> Was working fine with other distros.. and YES, it is not a bad idea if you need or want two OS's.. THAT is not the point EH?
[05:21] <pink1> So something is iffy with my 3D acceleration (I think?).  nvidia drivers are loaded (X.Org 7.0) and Quake 3 plays fine, but other games have major graphical glitchiness whereas they didn't, oh, a week or two ago.
[05:21] <Tedd> !tell Glimmerati about w32codecs
[05:21] <pink1> What should I do to run some sort of diagnostic on my graphics acceleration to find what might be the problem?
[05:22] <haasteem> kbrosnan: ok, but i still wonder why i cannot do this properly using .gtkrc-2.0, do you know why?
[05:22] <pink1> Could my recent upgrade from X.Org 6.9 --> 7.0 have anything to do with this?
[05:22] <ruxpin> pink1: glxinfo , glxgears
[05:22] <TheTrueFlesh> yeah I got grub at the loader , I was worried to get a virus on xp and this could affect both win and linux partitions
[05:22] <kbrosnan> haasteem, no clue
[05:22] <mooseman447> hey
[05:23] <__mikem> Jack_Smirnoff, you probably didn't loose your winxp install, grub probably just has to be told that the windows install is there, then it will happily load windows back again
[05:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> I dont connect to the internet with XP unless it is an emergency.. Like NOW when I can no longer get into Ubuntu
[05:23] <hyphenated> TheTrueFlesh: it could affect windows and your bootloader, but they haven't worked out how to make a virus compatible with linux yet
[05:23] <mooseman447> i have a question but im not sure if this is the right place to ask
[05:23] <TheTrueFlesh> yeah thanks thats why moved to Linux :)
[05:23] <Jack_Smirnoff> And yes, I booted an 98 cd and fdisk /mbr and got Windows back..
[05:24] <Glimmerati> from the top....i already have downloaded it ... installed it.....but faild to run it properly.......last night ubotu already gave me that location .....but my frastation is non of the multimedia is supporting w32
[05:24] <__mikem> Jack_SMirnoff glad to hear you atleast got back on your feat
[05:24] <Jack_Smirnoff> Glimmerati:  You need code32cs, read up, it is not hard to install
[05:24] <__mikem> But you do realize, you overwrote grub when you did that and you need grub to get into linux
[05:24] <mooseman447> lately we have been having power outages and i cant order a UPS for a few months so i was wondering if there was a way to make a par2 set for an entire drive to ensure nothing is corrupted
[05:25] <__mikem> Jack_Smirnoff But you do realize, you overwrote grub when you did that and you need grub to get into linux
[05:25] <lonegeek> Can anyone help out? I sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop   Reboot and ubuntu doesnt boot....i select previous kernal..it does boot..... but things are a bit messed up now...X server doesnt quite display things right....Can i completely remove kubuntu files? and reconfig x server?
[05:25] <kolaje> how do i view my version of ubuntu?
[05:25] <Jack_Smirnoff> I KNOW exactly what I did, But I had to get something working and GRUB was obviously trashed beyond repair
[05:25] <bimberi> !version
[05:25] <Draconicus> http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/Ubuntu64.png
[05:25] <ubotu> To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[05:25] <Raul654> spades - are you still here?
[05:25] <tct> Can you upgrade ubuntu to a state resembling debian sid?
[05:25] <spades> yes
[05:25] <Raul654> it didn't work
[05:25] <haasteem> kbrosnan: ok, it is weird, i screwed up my settings tonight... and i don't recall ever having played with the usechrome.css file to resolve this issue... maybe it is because i use blackbox instead of gnome...
[05:25] <Raul654> MYCHECK_PARAMS are the parameters for the mysql check
[05:26] <Raul654> I need the parameters for the actual mysqld invocation
[05:26] <Savage> thank god for the alt iso lol
[05:26] <Glimmerati> :( its getting out of my control
[05:26] <spades> Raul654 i dont have mysql installed but i guess worse case is you can make a script stop and restart mysql with your skip options and link it in /etc/rcS.d to run after everything?
[05:26] <__mikem> Ok, Jack_Smirnoff get yourself a live cd, reinstall grub, and ask someone how to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst so that grub will see the windows install
[05:26] <__mikem> that should set you streight
[05:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> I booted Knoppix and burned a copy of my Home folder to dvd...
[05:26] <bimberi> Jack_Smirnoff: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16814 is a /lastlog RadiantFire - it will have the commands and stuff there
[05:27] <kolaje> is dapper 6.06 old, or are there just newer other developments ?
[05:27] <Raul654> That's the crazy part - I don't see any reference to mysqld in /etc/rcS.d
[05:27] <mooseman447> anybody know?
[05:27] <spades> Raul654 make one anyway
[05:27] <NickGarvey> mooseman447: I think #hardware would do you better
[05:28] <mooseman447> ok i couldnt find a ext3 filesystem chan
[05:28] <mooseman447> thanks nick
[05:28] <Draconicus> Wow. There's an Ubuntu-compatible Nintendo 64 emulator just waiting to be documented, and nobody cares?
[05:28] <Jack_Smirnoff> bimberi:  Thank you so much, that was what I was asking someone to do before
[05:29] <lonegeek> What is the command that reconfigures x server
[05:29] <__mikem> loegeek dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <spades> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <Draconicus> lonegeek: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <Draconicus> :P
[05:29] <__mikem> I got it first!
[05:29] <__mikem> :)
[05:29] <jme> Draconicus: you've found your niche!
[05:29] <jme> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:29] <Draconicus> jme: Eh?
[05:30] <jme> you can document the helllllll out of that sucka
[05:30] <jme> !suckas
[05:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about suckas
[05:30] <__mikem> suckas = suckers
[05:31] <jme> someone should add that to ubotu
[05:31] <intelligi> I did it!
[05:31] <jbrouhard> Okay, I have a friend who wants to try ubuntu on his laptop, but he has a problem.
[05:31] <intelligi> I got rid of Windows!
[05:31] <intelligi> Ubuntu is fantastic!
[05:32] <L-----D> intelligi: ;D
[05:32] <intelligi> Hurrary for free software!
[05:32] <jbrouhard> his wireless card is an ipw3945.. is there some problem loading it ?
[05:32] <pickledbushman> intelligi, yeah, its leet:P
[05:32] <XaviusShadow> I'm a new user to Ubuntu, can someone give me some help?
[05:32] <Healot> !ask
[05:32] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:32] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  it pays to ask a question :P
[05:32] <__mikem> Whats the meaning of life?
[05:32] <intelligi> Now one problem...I don't have the divx codec needed to play some files.
[05:32] <dr_willis> 7^2
[05:32] <intelligi> Should I download another movie player?
[05:32] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to burn the iso onto a cd, how do I do this?
[05:33] <dr_willis> intelligi,  i tend to use vlc
[05:33] <XaviusShadow> I already wasted one cd on a screwed up burn
[05:33] <TheTrueFlesh> I use vlc too
[05:33] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  under windows - try the 'burn at once' program - its free
[05:33] <TheTrueFlesh> and it works just fine
[05:33] <Healot> Windows Media Player's the best, hohoho
[05:33] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  this is the cdrom image right? not the dvd image?
[05:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> Going to go try this again,  bimberi Thank you so much... Sorry for venting..
[05:33] <XaviusShadow> I think it's the cdrom image... I got it from the site
[05:34] <XaviusShadow> it's the cdrom image
[05:34] <jbrouhard> Anyone here ever have problems getting an ipw3945 Wireless card to work in Ubuntu ?
[05:34] <atsugnam> Does anyone know what package mkraid comes in?
[05:34] <atsugnam> or, if using it is right for ubuntu?
[05:35] <XaviusShadow> so I just burn the iso to a cd, and pop the cd into my comp and it'll boot from the cd and start the ubuntu install?
[05:35] <dr_willis> yes
[05:35] <XaviusShadow> it doesn't need to have a bootable cd made?
[05:35] <dr_willis> it will also be a live cd - you can mess with the oss from that no install needed
[05:35] <dr_willis> Burn at once handles that.
[05:35] <redblades> Hi, I'm having trouble with my external dialup modem.
[05:36] <elknof1> !paste
[05:36] <dr_willis> windows xp's burning software CANT burn .iso images
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:36] <rAnSTM> hello, I need to compress several files into one, I tried with tar -cfvz but I get Argument list too long. What can I do?
[05:36] <snoops> burning the image with nero will also be bootable
[05:36] <TheTrueFlesh> besides aMule which other sofwtare like this will you recommend to try on Ubuntu?
[05:36] <redblades> while on windows, it worked fine, reaching acceptable speeds.
[05:36] <dr_willis> TheTrueFlesh,  that a bittorrent client? or what?
[05:36] <redblades> On linux, it seems to be running extremely slowly.
[05:36] <XaviusShadow> so if I downloaded ubuntu from the site it's just a live cd?
[05:36] <dr_willis> !p2p
[05:36] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[05:36] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  its both
[05:37] <TheTrueFlesh> yeah bittorrent
[05:37] <ktstone> hey everyone, I've been fighting with my screen resolution for awhile, can someone please walk me through getting additional modes available under system>preferences>screen resolution?  I've done every walkthrough I could find...
[05:37] <intelligi> How do I install VLC player?
[05:37] <XaviusShadow> ok, because I want to just install the program
[05:37] <redblades> I was wondering, is there any reason that this would happen?
[05:37] <intelligi> The sudo apt-get install thing isn't working.
[05:37] <stromham> hey Gobotu
[05:37] <Gobotu> stromham: hola :)
[05:37] <tct> dr_willis : cause you install the software that comes with your burner. They cant put everything in their os because other companies will bitch about it
[05:37] <kbose> hey anyone that can help me with buttorrent
[05:37] <intelligi> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[05:37] <snoops> XaviusShadow the 'desktop' 6.06 version boots into a live cd, and on the desktop is an 'install' icon.. you double click it, then run through a graphical installation to install it on your pc ;)
[05:37] <intelligi> That's what it says.
[05:37] <amarokker> Hi, am preparing to install dapper on 'bout 30 PCs- but its all networkless right now- so am planning to use my cached archives (around 4gb) on each system to update and install packages. could these cause any problems?
[05:37] <amarokker> i upgraded from breezy
[05:37] <__mikem> you could try apt-get install *vlc*
[05:37] <snoops> intelligi add universal and multiverse repositories
[05:37] <dr_willis> tct,  ugh.. yea.. sure.. whatever.,  :)
[05:38] <XaviusShadow> Thanks snoops
[05:38] <kbose> bittorrent please
[05:38] <tct>  dr_willis : heck they had to make a version of windows that didnt come with media player
[05:38] <kbose> any hel[
[05:38] <__mikem> kbose would you like it to go?
[05:38] <stromham> Gobotu, 8ball will my day today be nice?
[05:38] <__mikem> lol
[05:38] <stromham> dam
[05:38] <XaviusShadow> should I unzip the iso or just burn it zipped up?
[05:38] <kbose> i have azureus installed
[05:38] <kbose> and it's firewalled
[05:38] <kbose> tried everything on the az wiki
[05:38] <__mikem> well, bit torrent aint going to help you
[05:38] <kbose> and the ubuntu forum
[05:38] <stromham> Gobunto, are you my friend?
[05:38] <snoops> XaviusShadow oh you need to burn it not as a data cd, but as an image cd.. do you have nero?
[05:38] <DarkMageZ> intelligi, have you got the universe repository enabled?
[05:38] <stromham> whoops
[05:38] <XaviusShadow> I do snoops
[05:38] <__mikem> kbose, find out what port the program uses for p2p traffic, and unblock it at the firewall
[05:39] <stromham> Gobotu, are you my friend?
[05:39] <Gobotu> I can't do that Dave.
[05:39] <kbose> i set the port to 60000 on azureus
[05:39] <intelligi> I don't know.
[05:39] <stromham> ........ Gobotu are you sure?
[05:39] <kbose> and forwarded it on the firewall
[05:39] <kbose> and it's still not getting out
[05:39] <stromham> Gobou are you sure?
[05:39] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16815  can somebody help me out with this??
[05:39] <XaviusShadow> Kbose Azureus is a shitty program, I would reccomend finding something else seeing as azureus is blocked and heavily sucky through most ISPs
[05:39] <snoops> cool XaviusShadow well you can open nero.. then go to 'recorder>burn image'
[05:39] <__mikem> I don't believe 6000 is a valid port
[05:39] <redblades> ktstone: have you tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" ?
[05:39] <snoops> and select the iso..
[05:39] <DarkMageZ> intelligi, you will need to enable the universe to install vlc
[05:39] <kbose> any recommendations
[05:39] <stromham> Gobotu, i love you!
[05:39] <DarkMageZ> !universe
[05:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:40] <element> is there a Picasa2-like program for linux?
[05:40] <XaviusShadow> I would use bittorent or something to that matter
[05:40] <intelligi> Well, that sounds pretty hard...just inable the universe...
[05:40] <stromham> !Gobotu
[05:40] <ubotu> I know nothing about Gobotu
[05:40] <element> I guess picasa for linux will work :P
[05:40] <kbose> XaviusShadow and recommendations?
[05:40] <stromham> Gobotu: ruby?
[05:40] <Gobotu> I can't do that Dave.
[05:40] <rittyan> :S pervs
[05:40] <Psychobudgie> element:  picasa for linux?
[05:40] <intelligi> How do I enable the universe?
[05:40] <stromham> Gobotu: plugins?
[05:40] <Gobotu> no clue
[05:40] <Healot> !universe
[05:40] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:40] <kbose> element: yeah
[05:40] <element> Psychobudgie, yeah..just found it hehe
[05:40] <dr_willis> I think google is working on a Picassa for linux that uses wine
[05:40] <XaviusShadow> snoops, where can I find the place to burn a picture in nero?
[05:41] <atsugnam> I thought this universe was "enabled"
[05:41] <kbose> no it's a deb
[05:41] <atsugnam> ;)
[05:41] <intelligi> lol
[05:41] <elknof1> !picasa
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about picasa
[05:41] <lecaros> !picasa
[05:41] <XaviusShadow> all I see are video
[05:41] <element> what about this though.  an itunes-like program..that organizes music and maybe works with an ipod?
[05:41] <thechitowncubs> Hello
[05:41] <rittyan> element: banshee?
[05:41] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,    Huh? that did not make much sence.
[05:41] <lecaros> element, picasa it's now available for linux using wine
[05:41] <thechitowncubs> How can I tell what sound chip my motherboard uses?
[05:41] <atsugnam> intelligi, sources are setup in the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:41] <elknof1> there is a edition of picasa in google...
[05:41] <intelligi> How do I enable the universe?
[05:41] <Bilange> element, I dont know about ipod, but rhythmbox and amarok are two iTunes-like music player
[05:41] <lecaros> element, check google page
[05:41] <snoops> intelligi haha. it's easy dude.. you can open synaptic, click settings>repositories.. or package>repositories (I forget).. then from the repositories box.. scroll down the list and tick universe and multiverse.. then click close and hit reload in syna[tioc
[05:41] <snoops> synaptic* rather
[05:42] <intelligi> What is synaptic?
[05:42] <lecaros> element like itunes, you have ... hummm
[05:42] <atsugnam> if you sudo gedit that file, you will see some commented out sources with desscriptions above them...
[05:42] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16815  can somebody help me out with this??
[05:42] <DarkMageZ> element, for the music stuff, you want either banshee, amarok or (does not have ipod) rhythmbox
[05:42] <rittyan> intelligi: GUI for apt stuff
[05:42] <XaviusShadow> I can't find where to burn a image with nero
[05:42] <dr_willis> intelligi,  the definitive gui tool for apt-get :)
[05:42] <intelligi> Where is it?
[05:42] <snoops> intelligi it's the package manager for ubuntu.. so you don't have to do the whole 'apt-get' in terminal
[05:42] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  its right there in the menus somewhere
[05:42] <ktstone> redblades: I've manually edited xorg.conf and added the horz and vert sync ranges for my monitor but there is only the 85Hz option in the system menu
[05:42] <rittyan> intelligi: system->administration->
[05:42] <XaviusShadow> All I see are video options
[05:42] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  or drag/drop it onto nero perhaps.
[05:42] <RedEyess> Hi
[05:42] <XaviusShadow> I also see data options, but nothing for video
[05:43] <RedEyess> I have installed my printer successfully
[05:43] <leboff> I'm trying to rename a bunch of m4a files to hide them.... my command ( find -name *.m4a -exec rename {} .{} \;) gives me the error syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." can someone help me out?
[05:43] <snoops> XaviusShadow err you want to burn a cd image of ubuntu right?
[05:43] <Bilange> element, I dont use ati anymore, but this command needs to write to an important file... you need to type sudo before issuing the real command, like "sudo aticonfig blah"
[05:43] <rittyan> Congratulations
[05:43] <RedEyess> but when I try to print I get the response: "Stopped: job-stopped"... what should I do?
[05:43] <dr_willis> XaviusShadow,  i see it under "recorder/burn image"
[05:43] <XaviusShadow> Yeah... I found it
[05:43] <XaviusShadow> Sorry guys. It's late and I'm exhausted
[05:43] <snoops> I'm guessing you're using express rather than the more complicated looking version?
[05:44] <XaviusShadow> Yeah express
[05:44] <Edvinas> how to install Macromedia Flash Player via apt-get?
[05:44] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16815  can somebody help me out with this??
[05:44] <Bilange> element, sorry, wrong nick.
[05:44] <dr_willis> !flash
[05:44] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:44] <Bilange> elknof1, I dont use ati anymore, but this command needs to write to an important file... you need to type sudo before issuing the real command, like "sudo aticonfig blah"
[05:44] <XaviusShadow> I'm just sitting on a comp running win '98, so ubuntu should run better, I hope
[05:44] <intelligi> Where is system?
[05:44] <intelligi> I see no system folder.
[05:44] <snoops> oh gosh.. leaps and bounds XaviusShadow
[05:45] <RedEyess> printer?
[05:45] <intelligi> Oh, on the task bar...
[05:45] <RedEyess> anyone got help for my printer?
[05:45] <thechitowncubs> intelligi: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[05:45] <XaviusShadow> well it's not a totally new comp, PII 512 RAM, but still windows '98 doesn't prove any of what the comp can do
[05:45] <thechitowncubs> So what is the best way to find out what audio chip I am using to figure out how to make it so I can run a quadrophonic speaker setup?
[05:45] <XaviusShadow> I think windows is holding it back
[05:46] <leboff> woah what just happened?
[05:46] <thechitowncubs> So what is the best way to find out what audio chip I am using to figure out how to make it so I can run a quadrophonic speaker setup?
[05:46] <intelligi> Ok, I am in synaptic. How do I enable the universe?
[05:46] <XaviusShadow> well it's not a totally new comp, PII 512 RAM, but still windows '98 doesn't prove any of what the comp can do
[05:46] <riddlebox> where is the hotplug directory?
[05:46] <XaviusShadow> I think windows is holding it back
[05:46] <Bilange> leboff, netsplit
[05:46] <snoops> intelligi haha. it's easy dude.. you can open synaptic, click settings>repositories.. or package>repositories (I forget).. then from the repositories box.. scroll down the list and tick universe and multiverse.. then click close and hit reload in synaptic
[05:46] <thechitowncubs> Haha did anyone see my message?
[05:46] <snoops> XaviusShadow okay open nero express
[05:46] <Edvinas> md5@hash:~$ sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/*flash* /opt/firefox/plugins
[05:46] <Edvinas> Password:
[05:46] <Edvinas> ln: creating symbolic link `/opt/firefox/plugins' to `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/*flash*': No such file or directory
[05:46] <thechitowncubs> intelligi: read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/extra-repositories.html
[05:46] <XaviusShadow> I already found it snoops, the cd is almost done
[05:47] <snoops> oh cool bananas XaviusShadow
[05:47] <leboff> Bilange: thanks
[05:47] <RedEyess> why dont you download flash from the website
[05:47] <snoops> what do you mostly do on that win98 box out of interest?
[05:47] <XaviusShadow> play muds
[05:47] <leboff>  I'm trying to rename a bunch of m4a files to hide them.... my command ( find -name *.m4a -exec rename {} .{} \;) gives me the error syntax error at (eval 1) line 1, near "." can someone help me out?
[05:47] <__mikem> snoops, he does what most people do mostly on a windows box, stare at the blue screen of death
[05:47] <XaviusShadow> some graphical games that are so outdated the manufacturers won't admit they exist
[05:47] <Bilange> snoops, use it on really old machines, pentium 300 mhz and less
[05:47] <arapehl> XaviusShadow: Heh, it's funny you should mention it, I JUST switched from Win'98 to Ubuntu on my PII 300Mhz 2 days ago... freakin' weird you should mention it... and lemme tell you, Ubuntu is so much better.
[05:48] <dr_willis> leboff,  why not put them in a .hidden dir :P
[05:48] <Edvinas> how to install Macromedia Flash Player via apt-get?
[05:48] <leboff> dr_willis: i guess that works..
[05:48] <XaviusShadow> Oh thank god, My PII 300Mhz was running like shit on windows
[05:48] <leboff> dr_willis: its not even that i want to hide them though.. i just dont want amarok to get them..
[05:48] <XaviusShadow> plus I'm putting a new HD in it so I figured I won't even bother to install windows on that
[05:48] <nomin> linux is a good way to revive an older computer
[05:48] <XaviusShadow> so I heard
[05:49] <__mikem> linux is a good way to use a newer computer as well
[05:49] <Bilange> XaviusShadow, the problem is that its  just "fine" on a freshly installed Windows... just add a few programs and you're toast.. unless you have lots of RAM to help
[05:49] <XaviusShadow> my friend speaks highly of linux... like it's a god
[05:49] <Bilange> lots as in at least 128mb
[05:49] <nomin> as long as the hardware doesn't fail because it's too old
[05:49] <Healot> call him GOD, XaviusShadow
[05:49] <XaviusShadow> I have 512 RAM and windows eats it like it's candy
[05:49] <amarokker> Hi, am preparing to install dapper on 'bout 30 PCs- but its all networkless right now- so am planning to use my cached archives (around 4gb) on each system to update and install packages. could these cause any problems?
[05:49] <Savage> how do you change the res in ubutnu
[05:50] <amarokker> I mean using the same archives I used to upgrade from breezy on fresh installations?
[05:50] <Edvinas> how to install Macromedia Flash Player via apt-get?
[05:50] <XaviusShadow> I'll be back in a bit guys, gotta run to the store and spend at least a half hour with my fiancee, then we'll get a walkthrough on the install so I don't fuck it up
[05:50] <leboff> !flash
[05:50] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:50] <Healot> !info flashplugin-nonfree
[05:50] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.63.3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 16 kB, installed size 136 kB
[05:50] <XaviusShadow> afk
[05:51] <__mikem> !language
[05:51] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:51] <XaviusShadow> sorry
[05:51] <jme> in fact, if you don't have 256 MB, don't use the graphical installer
[05:51] <XaviusShadow> how do I set my afk flag?
[05:51] <jme> try /away
[05:51] <XaviusShadow> haven't used mIRC in years
[05:51] <XaviusShadow> jme: Thanks
[05:51] <leboff> dr_willis: thanks for the move tip.. just what i needed really
[05:51] <__mikem> Interesting
[05:52] <dr_willis> leboff,  :)
[05:52] <Ro1> my icons in tray..for programs that i just run...such as gajim or gaim are not being shown in the tray
[05:52] <lecaros_away> !ping
[05:52] <ubotu> pong
[05:52] <__mikem> Oh, I see how this works
[05:52] <__mikem> !ping
[05:52] <__mikem> !ping
[05:52] <jme> !ding
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about ding
[05:52] <__mikem> !bad bot
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about bad bot
[05:52] <Ro1> !your mom
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about your mom
[05:52] <jme> I was hoping for dong
[05:52] <__mikem> lol
[05:52] <__mikem> lmao
[05:52] <__mikem> thats funny
[05:52] <jme> !oh no you are abusing the bot
[05:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about oh no you are abusing the bot
[05:52] <Ro1> anyone know
[05:53] <Bilange> ubotu, you better not know anything bout my mom. :)
[05:53] <Ro1> lol
[05:53] <Ro1> my icons in tray..for programs that i just run...such as gajim or gaim are not being shown in the tray
[05:53] <Ro1> thier like gone
[05:53] <Ro1> why?
[05:53] <__mikem> This is funny
[05:53] <__mikem> !ping
[05:53] <ubotu> pong
[05:53] <__mikem> there we go
[05:53] <jme> Ro1: made any interesting modifications to GNOME?
[05:53] <rittyan> -_-
[05:53] <stromham> Gobotu: 8ball will my day be good?
[05:53] <rittyan> Ro1: what about other icons in tray?
[05:53] <Ro1> i'm using a new "widget" like thing
[05:54] <Ro1> i have netowkring...sound icons...but
[05:54] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham
[05:54] <rittyan> :S
[05:54] <stromham> Gobotu: Stromham
[05:54] <stromham> Gobotu: remember stromham
[05:55] <Ro1> !Mikem's mom
[05:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about Mikem's mom
[05:55] <Ro1> liaar!
[05:55] <__mikem> Ro1 you really shoultdn't do that lol
[05:55] <Ro1> ok
[05:55] <__mikem> lmao
[05:55] <Bilange> Ro1, yeah, ops are quite strict about bot's usage
[05:56] <jme> b&
[05:56] <Bilange> considering theres 680 users in there, thats a needed thing :/
[05:56] <jme> the ops seem to be absent
[05:56] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[05:56] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[05:56] <RandomGuy> Hi, I have started a VNC server and connect to it but gnome desktop isn't there
[05:56] <stromham> thats what i thought
[05:56] <__mikem> Well Hobbsee just left
[05:56] <thechitowncubs> !quadrophonic
[05:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about quadrophonic
[05:56] <RandomGuy> Im not sure if its another WM or gnome panel is just not started
[05:56] <__mikem> !abuse
[05:56] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[05:56] <leboff> i feel a lot of kicks comin when an op wakes up :)
[05:57] <__mikem> !bot abuse
[05:57] <ubotu> Please don't play with the bots, or else... Also see !behaviour
[05:57] <stromham> well its my bot
[05:57] <stromham> so i can do what i wish
[05:57] <__mikem> leboff they are all probably having coffie and doughnuts
[05:57] <stromham> watch
[05:57] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[05:57] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[05:57] <Bilange> !behaviour
[05:57] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[05:58] <dr_willis> bots are sooo.... 2005
[05:58] <dr_willis> :P
[05:58] <thechitowncubs> !ALC850
[05:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about ALC850
[05:58] <leboff> has anyone had experience with RTL8185 on ubuntu?
[05:58] <Bilange> dr_willis, I agree... in 2006, that job is just outsourced, so humans are here 24/7
[05:59] <nomin> !nvidia
[05:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <FujiMan> leboff: sorry, no. I just did updates, rebooted and no longer my network connection works
[06:00] <rittyan> Drivers for monitor? O__O
[06:00] <rittyan> Monitor doesnt need any driver >_>'
[06:00] <leboff> FujiMan: with RTL8185?
[06:01] <psx1337> does anyone know where, by default, WINE places its fake windows directories? i'm trying to put a font in the windows folder
[06:01] <FujiMan> rittyan: only if yu have a Nvidia or ATI monitor!
[06:01] <__mikem> psx1337 ~/.wine
[06:01] <rittyan> psx1337: ~/.wine/
[06:01] <psx1337> thanks.
[06:01] <Bilange> psx1337, in /home/YOURLOGIN/.wine/drive_c if I remember
[06:01] <rittyan> FujiMan: haha really...
[06:01] <Bilange> or just .wine/c/
[06:01] <rittyan> or ls ~/.wine/ | grep c... or somethng else... =_=
[06:01] <FujiMan> leboff: no i have a 3com card
[06:02] <Raul654> can someone explain what the difference between: sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables > /dev/null 2>&1 and sudo /usr/sbin/mysqld --skip-grant-tables is?
[06:02] <t4ken> sup everybody
[06:02] <Raul654> The former causes mediawiki to have a connection error, the latter works fine
[06:02] <rittyan> Raul654: first example redirects output to /dev/null
[06:02] <leboff> FujiMan: oh.. yeah my computer freezes when i pound the RTL8185 (bittorrent, video streaming.. vnc.. you name it)
[06:02] <DSlayer_1> stdout and stderr that is
[06:02] <Raul654> Rittyan - How would that cause the sql server to reject connections?
[06:02] <Raul654> It makes no sense
[06:02] <psx1337> Uh, how do I open ~/.wine in the GUI
[06:02] <gdb> Raul654: You're right, it doesn't!
[06:03] <rittyan> Raul654: I don't know sorry :| I'm not so much in database things
[06:03] <leboff> CTRL+H
[06:03] <dooglus> psx1337: right-click, show hidden files
[06:03] <FujiMan> leboff: you have another NIC to try?
[06:03] <rittyan> or ctrl+L and then type ~/.wine/
[06:03] <FujiMan> leboff: or is it on board?
[06:03] <Raul654> the only difference is that one line has "> /dev/null 2>&1 &" at the end
[06:03] <Raul654> what does that 2>&1 mean?
[06:03] <rittyan> Raul654: 2> is stderr iirc... not sure tho
[06:04] <dooglus> Raul654: 2>&1 means "puts the errors to the same place as the output@
[06:04] <leboff> FujiMan: heh, i tried a bcm44xx card... but that was a whole other nest of problems (mainly internet not working)
[06:04] <psx1337> thanks
[06:04] <Raul654> Ahh
[06:04] <Raul654> so it redirects stderr into stdout
[06:04] <dooglus> yes
[06:04] <leboff> FujiMan: which is odd, because its a much more popular card then the no name card i use now
[06:04] <dooglus> kind of
[06:04] <gdb> Raul654: 2>&1 means redirect 2 (stderr) to the same place as 1 (stdout).
[06:04] <dooglus> Raul654: 2>&1 > /dev/null wouldn't work though
[06:04] <atsugnam> woot, I think somebody just stepped on the wet string that links Indo to the rest of the world
[06:05] <intelligi> How do I make XMMS my default player for MP3 files?
[06:05] <dooglus> Raul654: 2>&1 > /dev/null would leave the errors on the screen
[06:05] <stromham> Gobotu: Mission?
[06:05] <Gobotu> don't ask me
[06:05] <stromham> Gobotu: my mission?
[06:05] <Gobotu> my mission is to provide support to the Goubuntu project and to ensure a safe haven for IRC users to talk on.
[06:05] <Savage> UBUTNU OWNS
[06:05] <DSlayer_1> if I recall correctly, the redirection must be the last part of the command
[06:05] <Raul654> aha
[06:05] <Raul654> it's the ampersand
[06:05] <riddlebox> where is the hotplug directory at?
[06:06] <__mikem> is gobotu another bot?
[06:06] <__mikem> gobotu what are you
[06:06] <__mikem> I guess not.
[06:06] <dooglus> Raul654: it's the order.  "2>&1 >/dev/null" compared to "> /dev/null 2>&1"
[06:06] <Raul654> why would running mysql as a background process cause it to misbehave?
[06:06] <element> is there anything close that compares to itunes, for linux?
[06:06] <stromham> Gobotu: what are you?
[06:06] <Gobotu> *shrug*
[06:06] <dooglus> Raul654: 'cos it ready standard input?
[06:06] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[06:06] <agent9> hi
[06:06] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[06:07] <Raul654> dooglus - erm, mysqld
[06:07] <__mikem> Gobotu stromham
[06:07] <stromham> lol
[06:07] <__mikem> Gobotu: stromham
[06:07] <__mikem> Why doesn't it work
[06:07] <stromham> you need ?
[06:07] <__mikem> Gobotu what are you?
[06:07] <Gobotu> who knows?
[06:07] <__mikem> lol
[06:07] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[06:07] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[06:07] <b_9> I had a computer take a crap on me.  I pulled the ubuntu drive.  I have it in another computer.  I have some encrypted files.  I need to access them.  I'm sure the key is on the computer I just don't know how to adapt it all for the new computer...help?
[06:07] <solidsnake> hi everyone
[06:07] <__mikem> Gobotu are we allowed to abuse you?
[06:07] <Gobotu> don't ask me
[06:07] <__mikem> Gobotu who should I ask?
[06:07] <Gobotu> dunno
[06:07] <stromham> yes you are
[06:07] <solidsnake> i followed the ati binary driver how to but its not working
[06:07] <__mikem> lol
[06:07] <stromham> check this
[06:08] <__mikem> Gobotu you suck?
[06:08] <Gobotu> dunno
[06:08] <__mikem> lol
[06:08] <intelligi> How do I make XMMS my default player for MP3 files?
[06:08] <stromham> Gobotu: 8ball am i a winner?
[06:08] <solidsnake> fglrxinfo says the opengl vendor is Mesa instead of Ati
[06:08] <stromham> dam
[06:08] <bimberi> stromham: please stop it
[06:08] <stromham> ok np
[06:08] <stromham> Gobotu: sleep
[06:08] <__mikem> Savage please, once is enough
[06:08] <solidsnake> please can anyone help
[06:08] <solidsnake> ?
[06:08] <__mikem> Gobotu wake up
[06:08] <__mikem> Gobotu wake up?
[06:08] <Gobotu> *shrug*
[06:08] <stromham> gree
[06:08] <psx1337> Alright, now it says Steam could not connect to the network. Could it be a firewall problem within Ubuntu?
[06:08] <stromham> i put him asleep
[06:09] <stromham> Gobotu: Sleep.
[06:09] <solidsnake> has anyone been able to get the new ATI drivers to work?
[06:09] <__mikem> Gobotu 8ball am I a good programmer
[06:09] <stromham> lol!!!!
[06:09] <__mikem> d***it
[06:09] <dooglus> Raul654: mysqld usually runs in the background
[06:09] <Healot> possibly, but there are other possible reasons... psx1337
[06:09] <element> anyone know?
[06:09] <psx1337> Gobutu 8ball will steam ever work right under wine?
[06:09] <__mikem> Gobotu 8ball are you stupid
[06:10] <__mikem> Gobotu 8ball are you stupid
[06:10] <psx1337> My brain doesn't work under wine
[06:10] <__mikem> lol there we go
[06:10] <psx1337> I'll be here all night
[06:10] <__mikem> Gobotu is loads better than ubotu
[06:10] <stromham> Gobotu: search ruby
[06:10] <Gobotu> ruby: http://www.ruby-lang.org/
[06:10] <solidsnake> hey
[06:10] <solidsnake> anyone there to help me out?
[06:10] <psx1337> Meryl! Get me my cigarettes!
[06:11] <Back_Space> ok what do i do to get a program to process mail
[06:11] <__mikem> I am going to bed, good night
[06:11] <psx1337> You know, I won't bother trying to get this work under WINE anymore. Steam is something that I can deal with on windows.
[06:11] <Eleaf> Hi.
[06:11] <Warb1> !freenode
[06:11] <intelligi> How do I make XMMS my default MP3 player?
[06:11] <Eleaf> How can I make a .tar.gz package a deb package so I can remove the files easily later?
[06:11] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[06:12] <RandomGuy> how new are the ati drivers?
[06:12] <Dial_tone> beagle doesn't like much of a disk hit
[06:12] <psx1337> I'm glad I got my WUSB54G wireless usb adapter to work with Ubuntu today.. first try and I'm a newbie. It was easier than windows :) Night all
[06:12] <Eleaf> uhh
[06:12] <RandomGuy> I installed mine a 2 weeks ago
[06:12] <RandomGuy> its running as expected, still wishing for a Nvidia card
[06:12] <Eleaf> is there any way to make a .tar.gz package a deb package?????
[06:13] <VE> hey i need some help configuring my sound card
[06:13] <intelligi> Will someone help me?
[06:13] <VE> i have an onboard sound card built into my asus a8n sli preimeum mobo
[06:14] <bimberi> Eleaf: if it's one you compile and install with ./configure && make && make install you can use checkinstall to make a .deb
[06:14] <bimberi> !checkinstall
[06:14] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[06:14] <Eleaf> bimberi, it's not.
[06:14] <Eleaf> I know aobut checkinstall
[06:14] <bimberi> Eleaf: kk
[06:14] <Eleaf> bimberi, it's just a .tar.gz package that has a /usr/ dir and you are just supposed to unpack it in / and it spreads files everywhere
[06:15] <do_re_mi> h9
[06:15] <do_re_mi> hi.....
[06:15] <Eleaf> I just want a debian package to install these files, so that I can uninstall them later
[06:15] <intelligi> I need help too!
[06:15] <spikeb> then read my damn link
[06:15] <bimberi> Eleaf: i think you can provide any command as input to checkinstall (not just 'make install')
[06:15] <intelligi> Where is it?
[06:15] <Eleaf> I read it.
[06:15] <bobulooo> does anyone know how to keep my machine from locking up on reboot?  I think it has something to do with the nvidia drivers, since the graphics get garbled when it freezes, and it doesn't happen if I use 'nv' instead of 'nvidia'
[06:15] <Eleaf> spikeb, doesn't make sense...
[06:15] <Warb1> How to I get my nick back? I'm actually Warbo but I've been logged on as Warb1 (obviously)
[06:16] <spikeb> intelligi: not you :)
[06:16] <spikeb> intelligi: are you using gnome?
[06:16] <dli> Warb1, /msg nickserv recover Warbo <passwd>
[06:16] <intelligi> I don't know.
[06:16] <intelligi> Whatever is standard with Ubuntu.
[06:16] <intelligi> I just isntalled it.
[06:16] <spikeb> ok
[06:17] <Eleaf> spikeb, that article is way to advanced compared to what I want to do..
[06:17] <Eleaf> I just want a deb file that can install something somewhere.  but be able to remove it.
[06:17] <Eleaf> It's just a directory
[06:17] <Raul654> if I want to add commands to be executed last during bootup
[06:17] <Raul654> where do I put them?
[06:17] <spikeb> intelligi: that's good enough. right click on an mp3 file, and select open with other application, then select xmms from the list
[06:17] <revilot> I want to dual boot xp / ubuntu.  Should I first make a fat 32 partition before installing ubuntu, or is it best to do that afterwards?
[06:18] <Raul654> In other words -what is the very last script to be run during bootup?
[06:18] <eythian> does anyone know how to stop kmail from crashing all the damn time?
[06:18] <spikeb> eythian: i think not starting it might do that ;)
[06:18] <eythian> spikeb: not the best option, however :)
[06:19] <spikeb> eythian: that's true heh
[06:19] <intelligi> I have been doing that, spikeb, and it will open the file with XMMS, but next time I just click on it, it opens with another player.
[06:19] <Raul654> anyone?
[06:19] <spikeb> intelligi: wierd
[06:19] <spikeb> intelligi: that's supposed to set the new player as the default.
[06:19] <jme> revilot: you have xp on the system already?
[06:19] <fdsd> hey guys, I am using awk, and I need it to filter out just the the 30th line of /etc/passwd, how do I specify that?
[06:19] <jme> you can create a fat32 partition during the ubuntu install if you like
[06:19] <eythian> ...or does someone know if there are any newer packages than what comes with dapper packages available for it?
[06:20] <revilot> jme: the partition manager it uses is confusing to me
[06:21] <stromham> if you want me to add you to gobotu just ask
[06:21] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[06:21] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[06:21] <stromham> like so
[06:21] <Raul654> if I want to add commands to be executed last during bootup, where do I put them?
[06:21] <ic56> fdsd: awk 'NR == 30 {next}'
[06:22] <stromham> you need to
[06:22] <eythian> does anyone know how I can add a sources list for edgy to try to update my kmail, but not have everything else try to update itself at the same time?
[06:22] <stromham> make a cron job for them
[06:22] <VR_> shipit cds are here! :D
[06:22] <revilot> what is the dif between the live cd and live dvd?  Just the amount of programs on the dvd?
[06:22] <Raul654> stromham - no, I don't want them executed based on the clock
[06:22] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to execute commands in ubuntu on startup
[06:22] <Gobotu> how to execute commands in ubuntu on startup: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/57417/index.html
[06:22] <Raul654> I want them executed at boot time, every time
[06:23] <garryf> Well, I tried the new solaris based Nextenta linux. It has a solaris base, but dapper drake front end.
[06:24] <Glimmerati> any one know where can i get RealPlayer 10?
[06:24] <stromham> raul654 was it what you needed?
[06:24] <Warbo> I have plugged in a USB stick and /dev/sdb has been made, but not sdb1 (although it is there). I have unplugged it and tried again but no luck (note that I am using a USB modem and a USB hard drive with 2 USB ports, so I cannot have the modem and stick in at the same time)
[06:24] <stromham> Gobotu: search realplayer 10 for ubuntu
[06:24] <Gobotu> realplayer 10 for ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22138.html
[06:24] <Raul654> Stromham - I am looking at Gobotu's link, hold on
[06:24] <Warbo> garryf: "solaris based" and "linux" ?
[06:24] <Raul654> (reading)
[06:24] <dli> Warbo, sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[06:25] <hyphenated> revilot: only the amount of programs available to the installer. the "live" part doesn't have more programs to play with
[06:25] <Warbo> dli: It says "did you enter the wrong device?"
[06:25] <stromham> did that help glimmerati?
[06:25] <dli> Warbo, sudo fdisk -l
[06:25] <dli> Warbo, of course, do it when you have the stick plugged
[06:25] <revilot> hyphenated: thx
[06:25] <garryf> Warbo Yeah. Solaris that looks like Dapper. Solaris uses the linux kernel.
[06:25] <Dial_tone> make sure you install realplay, not realplayer. one is 10, one is 8
[06:26] <garryf> Warbo Its slower, and has some issues.
[06:26] <Glimmerati> no........    :(.....I am disappointed.....  but I could installed vmplayer...(which is not helping me)
[06:26] <efox> hey hey
[06:26] <Warbo> dli: Well I will basically need to jot down a few things since I cannot access the Internet and have the stick in at the same time
[06:26] <Raul654> STromham - no, that link didn't seem to help
[06:26] <stromham> hmm sorry
[06:26] <Raul654> all I need is the last init script file that is run
[06:26] <stromham> i will try a differnt search
[06:27] <fdsd> ic56 hey, thanks, so how do I use it?  awk 'NR == 2 {next}' /etc/passwd will it just print the 30th line?
[06:27] <stromham> Gobotu: how to run shell commands on startup
[06:27] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to run shell commands on startup
[06:27] <Invert> what's the command line input to start OO.o?
[06:27] <Gobotu> how to run shell commands on startup: http://forums.macosxhints.com/archive/index.php/t-47046.html
[06:27] <Glimmerati> for codecs i have to install gstremaer 10....but my synaptc is showin i have ver 8.... AND I STOPED THERE FOR A MOMENT
[06:27] <intelligi> I fixed the problem, had to go into properties and fix it.
[06:27] <stromham> whoops
[06:27] <stromham> Gobotu: how to run shell commands on ubuntu on startup
[06:27] <ic56> fdsd: you asked for the opposite: to omit the 30th line.  Do you know awk?  If not, are you sure you are using the right tool?  sed is normally the right tool for these kinds of tasks.
[06:28] <Warbo> Can I just use fdisk on /dev/sdb and make a new partition? (there is nothing really important on it) or will I get the same problem?
[06:28] <efox> ive seen some pics of irc clients embedded into their desktops. How can I do something like that ?
[06:28] <Glimmerati> anyway.....would u help me for realplayer .... :)   or shall continue w32codecs with u ..... (actually I need to run WMA and WMV badly)
[06:29] <fdsd> ic56, well I am making a bash script and I need the second word, the third word, lines 20 and 30 outputed to a file with no spaces and such
[06:29] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to run shell commands on ubuntu on startup
[06:29] <Gobotu> how to run shell commands on ubuntu on startup: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg28t5.htm
[06:29] <efox> any google keywords or specific programs or terminology would be great...unless you just wanna tell me
[06:29] <dli> Warbo, yes, fdisk  or parted , both can do it
[06:29] <Raul654> aha
[06:29] <Warbo> Glimmerati: Totem is MUCH better than Realplayer. RP plays like 1 frame every few seconds, it is really bad (and that is on a fast machine)
[06:29] <stromham> Raul654 did that help?
[06:29] <Warbo> dli: So I won't get the same problem? There is already a partition on it, so making a new one might not change anything
[06:30] <garryf> Strange Warbo isn't able to just plug in the memstick and have it auto mount.
[06:30] <stromham> Gobotu: help
[06:30] <Gobotu> help topics: core, auth, keywords [31 plugins: 8ball, autoop, autorejoin, cal, dice, dns, excuse, fortune, freshmeat, host, insult|msginsult, karmastats|karma, lart, math, nickserv, opme, qauth|quath, quotes, remind, roshambo|rps, rot13, roulette, search, seen, slashdot, spell, translate, tube, urls, weather, wserver]  (help <topic> for more info)
[06:30] <jme> efox: presumably that's a command-line client like irrsi, embedded into a shell on the desktop
[06:30] <scanner_X> hey, can I install windows media player 9 or 10 on ubuntu with wine?
[06:30] <Glimmerati> the experience with totem is so..bad...totem doesnt support anyting.....not mp3, dat, mpg, anything i want to play
[06:30] <jbalint> what package the man pages for C functions are int?????????
[06:30] <Warbo> garryf: I am not in GNOME, so it won't automaount, but there are no partitions visible in /dev
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: No, there are detectors built in which find WINE and stop you
[06:31] <efox> jme: so if i want to get that appearance, i would need irrsi ? Currently im using xchat and its ok, but i want it to be visually pleasing =)
[06:31] <cntb> what sources .lst is recommended if I need numlockx? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[06:31] <Back_Space> anyone help me out with setting up a mail prosessor
[06:31] <scanner_X> Warbo: what do you mean?  yes i can, or not i cant?
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: "This program can only be installed in a 32bot Windows environment" then it closes
[06:31] <jme> efox: you'd need a command line IRC client
[06:31] <stromham> Gobotu: search codecs needed to watch all movie formats on ubuntu
[06:31] <Gobotu> codecs needed to watch all movie formats on ubuntu: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/libdvdcss2-and-w32codecs-for-ubuntu/
[06:31] <jme> there are several available
[06:31] <garryf> Warbo I do it in gnome in Ubuntu all the time. Even worked in breezy. It should not be giving you such grief, I do think I prefer kde tho.
[06:31] <scanner_X> so...no?
[06:31] <Warbo> scanner_X: WINE can do it, M$ stop you
[06:32] <Cornellius> How to know which kernel version we're using ?
[06:32] <scanner_X> o, okay, so i cant
[06:32] <fdsd> ic56, awk -F":" '{ print $4 " " $1 }' /etc/passwd I got this so far, it gives me line 4 and line 1, with a space, but it spits out everything, I just need lines 20 and 30
[06:32] <jme> Cornellius: uname -r
[06:32] <garryf> Erm, there must be a linux version of realplayer 10, because It comes installed by default in Suse
[06:32] <NateBHere> Hello, can anyone help me install JRE 5.  I just am not understanding  please help
[06:32] <Warbo> garryf: You honestly don't want to know what GUI I am using. Anyway, a console should be able to mount it, but there is nothing to mount (I even tried the MAKEDEV script in /dev)
[06:32] <stromham> Gobotu: how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu
[06:32] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu
[06:32] <Gobotu> how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu: http://forums.linuxiso.org/viewtopic.php?p=125937&highlight=
[06:33] <garryf> Nods Ok.
[06:33] <Raul654> Stromham - I think that worked
[06:33] <stromham> Gobotu: search how to install jre 5 on ubuntu
[06:33] <Warbo> I am guessing Gobotu is a bot?
[06:33] <Gobotu> how to install jre 5 on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[06:33] <stromham> Gobotu: stromham?
[06:33] <Gobotu> stromham is my master
[06:33] <element> what's the deal with Goobuntu?
[06:33] <jbalint> what package the man pages for C functions are in?
[06:34] <Cornellius> Gobotu: Already got my answer.
[06:34] <scanner_X> has anyone installed iTunes with wine?
[06:34] <stromham> Gobotu: Botsnack
[06:34] <Gobotu> stromham: schweet!
[06:34] <Warbo> I would say "uname -r" not "how to find out which linux kernel your using on ubuntu: http://forums.linuxiso.org/viewtopic.php?p=125937&highlight=" :)
[06:34] <stromham> warbo did he help you out?
[06:34] <hyphenated> stromham: you should do that kind of playing in #debian-bots
[06:35] <stromham> he is here to help
[06:35] <stromham> and so far he has
[06:35] <hyphenated> botsnack is hardly helping
[06:35] <Warbo> stromham: No. Take away his botsnack
[06:35] <stromham> no but scroll up and see that he help rual and others
[06:35] <stromham> i was rewarding him
[06:36] <GigaClon> by sending people to ubuntuguide
[06:36] <GigaClon> !ubuntuguide
[06:36] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[06:36] <darkyoshi372> #macosx
[06:36] <Warbo> Ha. That stopped your argument :)
[06:36] <stromham> its what the search pulled up
[06:36] <gdb> stromham: I think the point is that this channel already has an "offical" infobot and playing with your personal one here is inappropriate.
[06:36] <stromham> i was not playing
[06:36] <stromham> and i shall use him less then
[06:36] <gdb> Ok, running your personal one here is inappropriate.
[06:37] <ic56> fdsd: ok, if you're dealing in words, awk is an easier tool.  How to ouptut the 2nd and 3rd words of the 20th and 30th lines:  awk -F: 'NR == 20 || NR == 30 {print $3 " " $2}' /etc/passwd
[06:37] <hyphenated> if your delusions make you think giving it a botsnack isn't playing, then feel free to have that delusion elsewhere
[06:37] <GigaClon> Oh Seveas
[06:37] <GigaClon> b&
[06:37] <stromham> i gave him one botsnack
[06:37] <stromham> scroll up he was working before then
[06:37] <hyphenated> and made him call you his master. great help
[06:37] <intelligi> How do I put the trash on the desktop?
[06:37] <fdsd> ic56, ah okay
[06:37] <cntb> what is  who is Gobotu ?
[06:37] <Warbo> ubotu: Botsnack
[06:37] <Patrick_> hey all, is it possible to access the session "startup" options through terminal?
[06:37] <stromham> ubotu is a differnt type of bot
[06:38] <Warbo> Just trying to make it even :)
[06:38] <bobcat190> can you put ubuntu on a 2gig hdd?
[06:38] <stromham> yes
[06:38] <stromham> patrick_ yes
[06:38] <Patrick_> how so?
[06:38] <bobcat190> really?
[06:38] <bimberi> bobcat190: yes
[06:38] <Warbo> bobcat190: Yes, do a server install then add what you want
[06:38] <garryf> stromham I visited another channel and found that tho the folks here are helpful, they sure get uptight over little things. Isee no harm in experimenting. I bet they woudn't gripe in solaris
[06:38] <stromham> There is a guide on the forums
[06:38] <Patrick_> stromham, you remember yesterday how I was messing with XGL...well...lol
[06:38] <intelligi> How do I put the trash bin on the desktop?
[06:38] <ic56> fdsd: why are you picking lines from /etc/passwd numerically?  Why not based on the value of a field?
[06:38] <stromham> yea
[06:38] <gdb> We don't care.  You're running a personal bot here.  It's inappropriate.  This is an official Ubuntu support channel that has an official Ubuntu bot.  We do not care that your bot is different.  We do not care that your bot is helpful.  We do not care that you will "use him less".  It's unappropriate to run a personal bot on a channel that doesn't belong to you.
[06:38] <stromham> patrick check my pal
[06:38] <Patrick_> stromham, do you know off hand?
[06:38] <Patrick_> your what?
[06:38] <bobcat190> when i try is says that i ran out of space
[06:39] <NateBHere> I tried the wiki it doesn't do anything.  I've tried to follow the instructions given by Sun.  they make no sence
[06:39] <garryf> I'd pull my hair out over little infractions, but I'm bald.
[06:39] <stromham> Gobotu: say hi!
[06:39] <Warbo> intelligi: System Tools>Configuration Editor
[06:39] <gdb> s/unappropriate/inappropriate/
[06:39] <bobcat190> can some one that knows something plz pm me
[06:39] <stromham> i have full rights to do what i want
[06:39] <intelligi> Where is System Tools?
[06:39] <stromham> its my rights
[06:39] <stromham> in the usa
[06:39] <fdsd> ic56, because I was just using /etc/passwd as an example, I have other applications for this
[06:39] <Warbo> intelligi: Applications menu in GNOME
[06:40] <gdb> Ah, I see, so you're 12 and have never taken a civics class.  I'll let the ops deal with  you.
[06:40] <Patrick_> stromham, do you know  how to do that off hand?
[06:40] <Warbo> stromham: You are on my monitor in the UK. Get off now!
[06:40] <intelligi> It isn't there.
[06:40] <stromham> ?
[06:40] <t4ken> does anyone here play magic the gathering?
[06:40] <stromham> i used to
[06:40] <Warbo> intelligi: Applications>Accessories>Alacarte
[06:40] <t4ken> why did you stop?
[06:40] <scanner_X> Warbo, I just tried installing iTunes with wine, and I got this error: 1608: Unable to create InstallDriver instance, Return Code: -2147221021
[06:40] <stromham> patrick_ go to #goubuntu and i will tell you
[06:41] <Warbo> scanner_X: I don;t understand those eroors sorry
[06:41] <garryf> er, its actually a privelege to use this channel. tho I won't have apoplexy over a few uses of a bot.
[06:41] <scanner_X> well, is there something I should know when installing iTunes with wine?
[06:41] <jrattner1> If i have just completed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl and followed the directions, should I be able to start XGL without compwiz
[06:41] <PHZN> t4ken:  might I suggest #ubuntu-offtopic for any discussion that is not related to ubuntu
[06:41] <hyphenated> scanner_X: ask the wine guys in #winehq
[06:41] <scanner_X> oaky
[06:42] <cntb> is UMAX scanner Astra 3400 OK for UBUNTU6.06 ?
[06:42] <t4ken> didnt mean to bother you sorry
[06:42] <Warbo> Does running XGL with a regular window manager give you Composit?
[06:42] <bimberi> !scanner
[06:42] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[06:42] <stromham> Gobotu, msg scanner search I just tried installing iTunes with wine, and I got this error: 1608: Unable to create InstallDriver instance, Return Code: -2147221021
[06:42] <intelligi> Is there a way I can just drag an icon, like I did for Computer?
[06:42] <Warbo> intelligi: Maybe
[06:42] <stromham> Gobotu, msg scanner_x search I just tried installing iTunes with wine, and I got this error: 1608: Unable to create InstallDriver instance, Return Code: -2147221021
[06:43] <cntb> 10x bimberi !
[06:43] <garryf> I hate those useless errors. Only the original programmer knows what that number means.
[06:43] <bimberi> cntb: np :)
[06:43] <intelligi> Well, how, Warbo?
[06:43] <garryf> I bet it means "Error Occurred"
[06:43] <Warbo> intelligi: Erm. By dragging it? I don;t know but there is no point asking "can I" when you may as well have a go
[06:44] <intelligi> Well, what do I do?
[06:45] <NateBHere> Hello, I'm realy new at using a Linux OS.  I am having a problem getting the JRE 5 installed.  I've tried to follow and make sence out of the installation instructions but I am getting hung up.  I'm sorry but I'm sure that there is some one here that is willing to help me and understands that I am use to installing software by simply D-clicking the "Setup" or "Install" icon.  Please some one help me understand the installation manual for 
[06:45] <Warbo> intelligi: The way I was going to suggest it to use Alacarte to turn on the Configuration Editor, then open it and go apps>nautilus>desktop and turn on the trash icon
[06:45] <stromham> Gobotu, msg NateBHere search how to install jre 5
[06:45] <Warbo> NateBHere: Do you have Universe on?
[06:45] <gdb> Sun Java is in Multiverse.
[06:46] <Warbo> OK then, Multiverse :)
[06:46] <Draconicus> http://72.29.83.152/~thehap/glitch/Ubuntu64.png
[06:46] <squareyes> afternoon all
[06:46] <gdb> Warbo: Oh, no worries, just pointing it out.
[06:46] <eFoX> I just found out about "cron" and im trying to practice with it, however, when i make the changes in my crontab, nothing happens
[06:46] <NateBHere> I think that I have it installed but now I need to get it associated with fire fox so that it works.
[06:46] <t4ken> stromham how do you make bots?
[06:47] <gdb> NateBHere: If you installed the Ubuntu packages for it, you simply need sun-java5-plugin
[06:47] <bobcat190> how do you do a server install?
[06:47] <Warbo> NateBHere: Maybe install "galternatives" and set the default Java to use?
[06:47] <tct> can I upgrade the packages in ubuntu by editing /etc/apt/sources.list to point to the debian testing packages?
[06:48] <intelligi> Ok, got it. Thanks Warbo.
[06:48] <bobcat190> can i install ubuntu from live cd to a 2gig hdd?
[06:48] <bimberi> tct: no, that's probably going to break your system
[06:48] <squareyes> Am having probs getting an external modem to go past initialise. machine has a winmodem that I can't get working. so plugged in my external modem that works fine on my machine, setup with pppconfig, but can't get past initialse
[06:49] <bimberi> tct: and if you're on dapper you'll have mostly later versions than debian testing anyway
[06:49] <Warbo> squareyes: I use gnome-ppp to do that stuff
[06:49] <tct> bimberi : so how do I goabout upgrading it to testing?
[06:49] <efox> crap. got disconn'd. Could anyone help me get cron working...just to do anything, so i know how ti configure it
[06:49] <Warbo> tct: Format, install Debian
[06:49] <tct> dapper?
[06:49] <bimberi> !dapper
[06:49] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[06:49] <dooglus> efox: you want to run stuff as root or as your user?
[06:49] <tct> I have a 6.06 live cd
[06:49] <NateBHere> I simply need.....  do you not understand I'm a microtard.  Simply means to me D-click on something.  If I'm going to understand anything it needs to be explained in quite a bit more detail.
[06:49] <squareyes> tried the graphic setup same result, always used pppconfig with no probs
[06:49] <Warbo> tct: Ubuntu is not Debian. If you want to switch then format your drive
[06:49] <efox> dooglus: as a user for now, and later as root
[06:50] <stromham> NateBHere install easybuntu
[06:50] <stromham> it will do it all for you
[06:50] <efox> dooglus: for the sake of a test, i wanted firefox to open every minute, but when i tried to do it, nothing happened
[06:50] <stromham> just search it in synaptic
[06:50] <Warbo> Easyubuntu does Sun Java now?
[06:50] <tct> Warbo : I just want a userfriendly up-to-date linux distro that is debian based
[06:50] <stromham> yes
[06:50] <dooglus> efox: run "crontab -e" to edit your crontab.  put a line in there saying "* * * * * ls > /tmp/ls.txt"
[06:51] <Warbo> tct: Then use Ubuntu. Whay the hell were you asking about Debian testing?
[06:51] <stromham> tct: use kbuntu ubuntu xbuntu
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: (without the quotes)
[06:51] <Healot> !info sun-java5
[06:51] <ubotu> Package sun-java5 does not exist in dapper
[06:51] <Healot> !info sun-java5-nonfree
[06:51] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-nonfree does not exist in dapper
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: then, once per minute, cron will run "ls" and put the output into /tmp/ls.txt
[06:51] <Raul654> one more quick question
[06:51] <NateBHere> Never heard of that one.  besides it wont teach me anything.  I want to gain some knowledge on how to do this.
[06:51] <efox> dooglus:  ok let me give that a shot
[06:51] <dooglus> efox: run "man 5 crontab" to read what those 5 stars mean, and how to make it run less often
[06:51] <Raul654> what is the ifconfig command to renew eth0's DHCP?
[06:51] <bimberi> !info sun-java5-jre
[06:51] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[06:51] <efox> dooglus: i know what they are
[06:52] <efox> dooglus: i did the readin before...i just couldnt get firefox to open every minute.
[06:52] <tct> Warbo : I want to use the latest version of a particular piece of software and I dont want to have to deal with upgrading packages
[06:52] <tct> especially libc6
[06:52] <efox> dooglus: let me try this and i'll try and work it from there. but let me ask you...if i had did 1 * * * *, would that do it every hour as well ?
[06:53] <efox> dooglus: sorry, every minute i mean
[06:53] <bimberi> Raul654: try 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0' (a guess)
[06:53] <Warbo> tct: Ubuntu Dapper is the latest Ubutnu ,Debian Sarge is the latest Debian. Debian also has testing and unstable if you are into that sort of thing, but I find Ubuntu generally has more up to date software then Debian (especially just after a release)
[06:53] <NateBHere> ubotu - so how do I get to this repository ad how do I use it when I get there.
[06:53] <dooglus> efox: you wouldn't expect any X apps to work
[06:53] <bimberi> Raul654: er, use 'sudo's with
[06:53] <Warbo> NateBHere: ubotu is a robot :)
[06:53] <NateBHere> oh
[06:53] <bimberi> !multiverse > NateBHere
[06:53] <efox> dooglus: oh really ?
[06:53] <tct> Warbo ok I am going to do an install now
[06:54] <dooglus> efox: the first place is the minutes place.  "1 * * * *" would run at 1 minute past each hour
[06:54] <spades> try */1 * * * *
[06:54] <spades> for every minute
[06:54] <dooglus> efox: the X server is configured not to let people talk to it unless they are authenticated to do so.  check your environment for "XAUTHORITY"
[06:55] <Warbo> I'm going to try my USB stick again. If I am back in a minute then you will know why
[06:55] <dooglus> spades: * is the same as */1
[06:55] <spades> placebo
[06:56] <NateBHere> Lets see I've been using windows since 3.11.  I just decided to go all out and try Linux Yesterday.  If I am to understand anything I need a little help what is "Multiverse>"
[06:56] <efox> dooglus: so if i can enable that XAUTHORITY, i can control any X app ?
[06:57] <tanath> my vlc won't play streaming ogg vorbis, but it'll play local ogg files. can anyone help?
[06:57] <efox> dooglus: what i would really like to do is do a routine back up (which i kno can be done) and then upload it to a server (which im unsure of rigt now)
[06:57] <megatronn1> i have an install shell script here, how can i run it?
[06:57] <spades> sh file.sh
[06:57] <megatronn1> thanks
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !multiverse > NateBHere
[06:58] <megatronn1>  shit, how do i get root in term?
[06:58] <NickGarvey> oh wait a second..
[06:58] <NickGarvey> someone already did that
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !language
[06:58] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:58] <NickGarvey> !root > megatronn1
[06:58] <megatronn1> O____O
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: you need DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY to talk to an X server.
[06:59] <efox> dooglus: I did the /tmp/ls.txt as a test, however I have a question on its operation. The entire contents are that of my /home directory. I tried going to another directory but each minute it copes my home directory, is that right ?
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: cron runs a new shell each minute.  the shell is run in your home directory.
[06:59] <dooglus> efox: you 'cd-ing' in your terminal is a different shell, so it doesn't affect cron
[06:59] <efox> dooglus: gotcha. ok
[07:00] <megatronn1> how do i get root in term?
[07:00] <spades> sudo -i
[07:00] <spades> or -s
[07:00] <spades> or sudo su
[07:00] <dooglus> or sudo sudo sudo su
[07:00] <varsendaggr> !sudo
[07:00] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:00] <megatronn1> oohhhhhhhhh
[07:01] <efox> dooglus: thanks
[07:01] <megatronn1> that's what that is
[07:01] <megatronn1> so i can put sudo in front of any command and it will run it as root?
[07:01] <tanath> if you're in the sudoers list
[07:01] <dooglus> efox: if you switch to a virtual terminal and try running X apps from there, you'll be in an enviroment much like your cron jobs run in.
[07:01] <tanath> !su
[07:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about su
[07:01] <dooglus> efox: so if you can manage to run firefox from a virtual terminal, you'll be able to do it from cron, too
[07:02] <efox> dooglus: ok. I dont play around with the virtual terminals too much, but i hear they are quite useful. I'm still learning the ropes. I'm a new user to linux
[07:03] <efox> dooglus: if i wanted to run cron as root, would i simply have to login in as root and then modify the crontab ?
[07:03] <NateBHere> So am I to understand that the  Synaptic Package Manager is what I need to use to get JRE 5.0 installed?
[07:03] <dooglus> efox: the first thing to learn is how to get back to GNOME!  it's not unusal to tell someone how to switch to the virtual terminal here, and they do it without know how to un-switch...  :)
[07:03] <efox> alt f7 if im not mistaken
[07:03] <intelligi> Is there anyway to use hotmail like you could in OutLook Express in Linux?
[07:03] <tanath> ctr+alt+f7
[07:03] <dooglus> efox: it's simpler for root - there are directories /etc/cron.hourly and such like
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: you can put shell scripts in there and they'll be run hourly
[07:04] <NateBHere> thunder bird  Woo hoo I knew that one
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: you can use "crontab -e" if you want to, but /etc/cron.weekly is easier
[07:04] <efox> tanath: ya something like that. I remember someone told me to press someehing and how to get back, but i didnt pay too much attention to how to get back, but i knew it was something f7. Figured it out after a while..lol
[07:04] <dooglus> efox: that's right alt-f7.  no control required.
[07:04] <efox> oh
[07:05] <efox> so i WAS RIGHT
[07:05] <efox> lol
[07:05] <dooglus> heh
[07:05] <tanath> lol
[07:05] <dooglus> efox: control-alt-f[1-6]  to switch out of GNOME to a virtual terminal
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: ok thanks for the help. I think you've given me enuff for now to play around with petty commands.Once i get the hang of this thing, i can start backin up data and uploading...now for that do i need xauthority and server ?
[07:06] <dooglus> efox: but also, just doing a "su - efox" in a terminal will have much the same effect, in that it will remove your XAUTHORITY, DISPLAY, and such like
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: is that essentially for multitasking ?
[07:06] <dooglus> efox: what?
[07:06] <malv> is libmad legal in the US?
[07:06] <efox> dooglus: the virtual terminals
[07:07] <dooglus> efox: virtual terminals aren't essential for anything much.  it's just something you can use if you can't / don't want to use X
[07:07] <efox> dooglus: again i dont do anything really hardcore, so i just open like 3-4 terminals so i dont get things messed up
[07:07] <efox> dooglus: oh ic
[07:07] <dooglus> efox: you can run multiple terminals inside gnome (or have multiple tabs in a single terminal) to multi-task
[07:07] <NickGarvey> use screen!
[07:07] <NickGarvey> gnu screen!
[07:08] <efox> dooglus: ya thats what i do now...cool
[07:08] <dooglus> screen is great, yes.
[07:08] <efox> dooglus: ok, im gonna play around with this for a bit..thanks for the help
[07:08] <dooglus> efox: the reason I mention virtual terminals is that they have the same 'broken X' look and feel as your attempts to run firefox from a crontab
[07:09] <novato_ubuntu> hallo there!
[07:09] <dooglus> hi
[07:09] <varsendaggr> ha i remember seeing a wiki to emulate windows using vmplayer  and qemu... now it is gone, doesn anyont know a link to that ?
[07:10] <novato_ubuntu> does anyone know the minimal requirements for installing the latest Ubuntu version?
[07:10] <Paladine> anyone know who i can fix this - (process:13632): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[07:10] <freakabcd> does anyone know where the heck evolution stores its mailbox config?
[07:10] <Paladine> s/who/how
[07:10] <freakabcd> i tried rm -rf .evolution; and next time i start it gets created with the old config!!
[07:10] <dooglus> freakabcd: what do you mean by 'mailbox config'?
[07:11] <freakabcd> dooglus, as in what imap server to use and folders in that what folders are subscribed to, etc.
[07:11] <tanath> vlc won't play streaming ogg vorbis, but it'll play local ogg files. can anyone help?
[07:11] <dooglus> freakabcd: oh, I see.  just a mo.
[07:12] <revilo> anyone managed to get Adobe Photoshop running with wine on Kubuntu Dapper? either version 7, CS or CS2?
[07:13] <novato_ubuntu> minimum requirements for Drapper?
[07:13] <novato_ubuntu> anyone?
[07:13] <revilo> 256MB RAM and 2GB HDD space according to the ship it CD covers
[07:13] <tanath> novato_ubuntu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Linux#Hardware_requirements
[07:14] <novato_ubuntu> hum.. and processor?
[07:14] <novato_ubuntu> oh, let me see the link..
[07:14] <freakabcd> dooglus, any luck? this is driving me insane! i want it to start 'fresh' the same way ti ran the very first time i ran evolution (i.e. without any configuration)
[07:14] <dooglus> freakabcd: no, not yet
[07:14] <freakabcd> and somehow magically it keeps getting back the same old crap config :(
[07:14] <eythian> novato_ubuntu: it runs well enough on a celeron 500, if oyu don't push it too hard.
[07:15] <rak_> any recommendations on an ftp server program?
[07:15] <eythian> freakabcd: look through gconf?
[07:15] <NickGarvey> rak_: proftpd is what I use
[07:15] <NickGarvey> rak_: I perfer it over vsftpd
[07:15] <stromham> glib
[07:15] <stromham> !glib
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about glib
[07:15] <stromham> Gftp sorry
[07:15] <stromham> !gftp
[07:15] <ubotu> I know nothing about gftp
[07:15] <freakabcd> eythian, this is what i tried: rm -rf ~/.evolution; rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:16] <freakabcd> and it _still_ gets the old config!
[07:16] <stromham> Gobotu: Gftp for ubuntu
[07:16] <stromham> Gobotu: search Gftp for ubuntu
[07:16] <novato_ubuntu> fre
[07:16] <Gobotu> Gftp for ubuntu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/hoary/+source/gftp/+pots/gftp
[07:16] <rak_> i'll check them out, thanks
[07:16] <Smeggy> any recommend a good mail client (simple) other than evolution ?
[07:16] <Smeggy> thunderbird isn't an option.
[07:16] <dooglus> freakabcd: did you check that ~/.evolution had actually been deleted?
[07:17] <freakabcd> dooglus, yes i did
[07:17] <dooglus> Smeggy: syphleed is quite nice, if you want simple
[07:17] <snowstalker> Smeggy, kmail
[07:17] <revilo> Smeggy, there was a really nice one, not sure of the name, something like sulpheed
[07:17] <freakabcd> if you don't believe me, try this: mv ~/.evolution ~/.evolution_old; evolution
[07:17] <dooglus> revilo: I'm guessing, too
[07:17] <revilo> Smeggy, what dooglus said :P
[07:17] <Smeggy> thanks folks :)
 Am I asking too much installing Dapper on a amd k6-II 500?
[07:17] <freakabcd> you will see _NO_ difference
[07:17] <freakabcd> its as if you never did the operation
[07:17] <Smeggy> kmail would rely on kdelibs, though, yes?
[07:17] <snowstalker> Smeggy, yes
[07:17] <Madpilot> Anyone else being spammed by "Rinchen"?
[07:18] <dxdemetriou> Can I move an existing installation of Dapper to other pc?
[07:18] <Rinchen> lol
[07:18] <dooglus> freakabcd: I imagine I'll lose a lot of email if I do that...
[07:18] <Rinchen> No that was for you
[07:18] <freakabcd> novato_ubuntu, i'm not sure its stoo much. should work fine on that machine. it all depends on the apps and the work you want to do on the machine
[07:18] <Madpilot> Rinchen, it's polite to ask first - and to send more than just a URL...
[07:18] <Rinchen> Persuant to the Cow site yesterday
[07:18] <freakabcd> dooglus, no you won't. you can always rename it back _if_ it didn't work
[07:18] <freakabcd> thats the mighty huge if
[07:19] <freakabcd> cos i have seen this exact same stupid behaviour before on my brother's machine
[07:19] <Rinchen> My apologies.
[07:19] <dooglus> freakabcd: .gnome2_private/Evolution ?
[07:19] <novato_ubuntu> freakabcd--> thank's! :o)
[07:20] <cryptid> how do i play mpeg audio format in linux
[07:20] <freakabcd> dooglus, theres no such file/dir
[07:20] <knanand> hi
[07:20] <dxdemetriou> Anybody knows why the hibernate works on fresh install, but not after the upgrade to Dapper?
[07:20] <dooglus> freakabcd: it's maybe just for saved passwords
[07:20] <knanand> can i install KDE over ubuntu??
[07:21] <spikeb> yep knanand
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: you can install KDE in ubuntu
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: by installing package kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <freakabcd> dooglus, find ~ -iname '*evo*' and nothing found!
[07:21] <freakabcd> what else can i delete? :(
[07:21] <dooglus> knanand: it won't go over the top of anything much, other than your splash screen and gdm login theme
[07:22] <dooglus> freakabcd: it's possible that gconfd is keeping it in RAM
[07:22] <knanand> dooglus: if i have kubuntu CD how can i go further..
[07:22] <dooglus> freakabcd: and on my system .gconf/%gconf-tree.xml has my account info in it, too
[07:22] <Dial_tone> I reinstalled and now i'm missing some video codecs but i don't know which ones
[07:22] <novato_ubuntu> as evbd can see, I'm a bit fresh in this linux thing... but can I run AutoCAD on it?
[07:22] <dooglus> knanand: #kubuntu might know more
[07:23] <freakabcd> dooglus, damn gconf. let me see if its there
[07:23] <Savage> does there happen to be ANY 3dfx drivers for ubuntu?
[07:24] <freakabcd> dooglus, ok. wtf!
[07:24] <Dial_tone> xorg should have some
[07:25] <dooglus> freakabcd: that file might be important, of course.
[07:25] <freakabcd> gconf-editor shows evo stuff in apps, when i damn well deleted ~/.gconf/apps/evolution
[07:25] <novato_ubuntu> any achitects or engenieers here?
[07:25] <Savage> Dial_tone: was that directed at me?
[07:25] <freakabcd> man, this is stupid keeps reminding me of the darn registry
[07:25] <Prez__> hello
[07:26] <Jack_Smirnoff> Hello all. Can anyone help me copy a file from livecd desktop to a partition on my hard drive.  I am trying to copy a grub.lst
[07:26] <dooglus> freakabcd: don't you see your account info in gconf's /apps/evolution/mail/accounts key?
[07:26] <wile_e8> has anyone in here gotten the pam keyring to authenticate for network manager?  It just doesn't work for me
[07:26] <freakabcd> dooglus, yeah. how the heck do i delete it from there?
[07:27] <Prez__> quick k,i've compiled kernel 2.6.17.2 for Ubuntu Dapper, all works great, except the graphical bootup mode and shutdown...
[07:27] <freakabcd> evo stuff is supposed to be in ~/.evo
[07:27] <freakabcd> gconf is pissing me off
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: can't you just delete the accounts from within evolution?
[07:27] <varsendaggr> hey i have a winxp.img  is there a way to convert it to a vmware   file?
[07:27] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: mount the partition first
[07:27] <Prez__> any ideas, it all comes up as text
[07:27] <novato_ubuntu> any achitects or engenieers here?
[07:27] <Glimmerati> i m tired of wma and wmv...... need help......I have installed w32codecs/gxine/xmms/vmware player/  ANY ONE PLEASE HELP WITH wma and wmv......
[07:27] <freakabcd> dooglus, as i said i want a clean start!
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: gconf is like windows' registry :)
[07:27] <freakabcd> dooglus, its worse
[07:27] <dooglus> freakabcd: what about deleting the whole of /apps/evolution?
[07:27] <freakabcd> i can;t even delete shit from there
[07:27] <Smeggy> I asked this here yesterday and nobody could help.. but trying agiain....
[07:27] <Jack_Smirnoff> I have it mounted and the partition shows writeable but it wont write it.  I am running Knoppix live at the moment...
[07:27] <Savage> Are there 3dfx drivers for Ubuntu?
[07:28] <Jack_Smirnoff> I have it on my desktop sda7
[07:28] <freakabcd> dooglus, thats what i did manually: rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/Evolution; but this inside the gconf-editor is still there
[07:28] <Smeggy> Can anyone tell me why my network doesn't start at boot? It's a perfectly ordinary network card.. fully supported... set to auto in /etc/network/interfaces... but it still doesn't come up on boot
[07:28] <freakabcd> how the heck do i delete?
[07:28] <dooglus> freakabcd: there must be a way.  I'll try to find out
[07:28] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: maybe you don't have permission?
[07:28] <efox> how can you tell how big a directory  through terminal ?
[07:28] <novato_ubuntu> anyone using CAD applications in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <efox> novato_ubuntu: i tried to install geda but failed
[07:29] <varsendaggr> is vmplayer  faster than qemu?
[07:29] <dooglus> freakabcd: how about something like "gconftool2 --recursive-unset /apps/evolution"?
[07:29] <Jack_Smirnoff> Thats what I said up front... I have been fighting this problem for hours trying to get my Ubuntu install back online
[07:29] <Glimmerati> ANY ONE PLEASE HELP WITH wma and wmv......
[07:29] <dooglus> freakabcd: this might damage things, of course, but you're already rm -fr'ing wildly...
[07:29] <tanath> !restrictedformats
[07:29] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i would say there isn't any good CAD software for linux,   i started using blender and i like it
[07:30] <Madpilot> Glimmerati, ease up on the ALL CAPS, please - and asking a more specific question might get you an actual answer...
[07:30] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i am an engineer,    what are you doing?
[07:30] <freakabcd> god, i'm ready and willing to sack gnome and all related shit
[07:30] <freakabcd> really pissing me off
[07:30] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: trying to be an architect! :o)
[07:31] <Glimmerati> I have installed w32codecs/gxine/xmms/vmware player but none of them are supporting wma nor wmv
[07:31] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: what's the problem?
[07:31] <varsendaggr> yeah blender may be for you
[07:31] <Glimmerati> i have huges colletions of wma songs whcih i cannt run in ubuntu....so i need solution to run them
[07:31] <tanath> novato_ubuntu: http://www.google.com/linux?q=cad&num=30
[07:31] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: blender... and how is the interface? autocad alike, vector
[07:32] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, it is a cool 3d modeling program,   but there are tons of ways to make it do what you need
[07:32] <Madpilot> Glimmerati, totem-xine plays wma & wmv for me...
[07:32] <freakabcd> oh thank you dooglus
[07:32] <dooglus> freakabcd: have a look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/evolution.prerm if you have it - there's a line in there that unregisters the evolution gconf entries
[07:32] <Jack_Smirnoff> tan, I need to edit my grub using a livecd
[07:32] <freakabcd> gconf is stupid: i will say that as many times as possible
[07:32] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, you can even import google earth images and overlay them..l.   i will go find you a link
[07:32] <novato_ubuntu> tana
[07:32] <novato_ubuntu> tanath: thanks!
[07:32] <tanath> Glimmerati: see the post about restricted formats
[07:33] <revilo> Glimmerati, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <dooglus> freakabcd: type "yes gconf is stupid" in a terminal
[07:33] <freakabcd> thanks dooglus. i will use that line
[07:33] <Glimmerati> my totem is more worse...it doesnt even supoprt mp3....but xine should support
[07:33] <freakabcd> dooglus, that won't help me :)
[07:33] <Prez__> quick k,i've compiled kernel 2.6.17.2 for Ubuntu Dapper, all works great, except the graphical bootup mode and shutdown...it boots up in text mode
[07:33] <dooglus> freakabcd: you know the 'yes' command?
[07:33] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: i want to migrate to linux, but i'm not there yet..
[07:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanath: I will boot to live cd if you will take the time to help me mount the drive and edit the file
[07:33] <Glimmerati> now i have installed w32codecs to support me....but it is not working propoerly
[07:33] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, http://www.blendernation.com/index.php?s=google+earth
[07:33] <revilo> Glimmerati, its due to license issues, its really easy to get ubuntu playing all media formats though, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <Jack_Smirnoff> Ubuntu live cd that is
[07:33] <varsendaggr> blender is availble for windows
[07:33] <Glimmerati> i have gone through those links before....
[07:33] <tanlaan> how do you unpack a .rpm?
[07:33] <freakabcd> dooglus, yes. but it still wouldn't help me :)
[07:34] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: what are you trying to do?
[07:34] <tanlaan> do i need to do it in terminal?
[07:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanlaan, dont do it
[07:34] <Glimmerati> infect i have been working last 5 hrs to resolves this issues....
[07:34] <tanlaan> dont do what?
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: your best bet is probably to reinstall evolution.  that should remove and recreate the gconf entries for you
[07:34] <revilo> Glimmerati, which media player? totem-xine would require you to install libxine-extracodecs via "sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs" for mp3 support
[07:34] <Glimmerati> i has othter prob like DVD .. and i solved the dvd issue
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install evolution"
[07:34] <snowstalker> Glimmerati, See if http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html helps
[07:34] <Glimmerati> now i m stuck on wma and wmv
[07:34] <Jack_Smirnoff> tan, I thought I made it pretty clear, I dont know how to explain it any better
[07:34] <dooglus> freakabcd: I'm not certain though.
[07:34] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: hum.. thats interesting... I'll give it a try...
[07:35] <freakabcd> dooglus, man. this is getting even more interesting. reinstall a package to get rid of its conf stuff.
[07:35] <varsendaggr> yeah   you need python
[07:35] <freakabcd> anyway, that gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/evolution
[07:35] <tanlaan> blah what do i do with a .rpm?
[07:35] <freakabcd> did the trick
[07:35] <tanath> Jack_Smirnoff: you prolly explained it before i got here
[07:35] <dooglus> freakabcd: well, that script I gave the path to just now is what runs when the package is removed...  since you also want to recreate an empty config, and that's done when the package is installed, removing and reinstalling it seems to be the simplest way...
[07:36] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, blender is pretty intense   come find me here and i can give you some pointers
[07:36] <dooglus> freakabcd: oh, that's good.
[07:36] <dooglus> freakabcd: I just wonder if it broke anything.
[07:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> I need to edit my grub on sda7 using a live cd
[07:36] <dooglus> tanath: see 'alien'
[07:36] <bender> im so bord omfg
[07:36] <bender> how do i save this nick?
[07:36] <freakabcd> dooglus, no it didn't. if it did. i'm ready to really actively stay away from all things gnome
[07:36] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am booted into a Knoppix live cd at the moment because it automounts my partitions
[07:36] <dooglus> bender: /say /msg nickserv password omfgimsobord
[07:36] <freakabcd> except ofcourse gimp, inkscape and some _good_ apps
[07:36] <tanlaan> what do i do with .rpm's?
[07:37] <dooglus> (without the /say)
[07:37] <dooglus> tanath: use alien
[07:37] <scorchblade> installing system from live cd.  install hangs at 60% (repeatable), although cursor still moves.  any thoughts?
[07:37] <bender> /msg nickserver password rrpor894!!##
[07:37] <tanath> dooglus: for what? :P
[07:37] <freakabcd> tanlaan, you can use alien on them. or extract them
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> tanlaan:  Leave them alone
[07:37] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: all right then... it's just that i'm used to autoCAD, you know? all the shortcuts and stuff...
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> Use the debs
[07:37] <bender> :)
[07:37] <dooglus> tanath: to handle rpms
[07:37] <tanlaan> just exract them?
[07:37] <tanath> dooglus: i don't use rpms :P
[07:37] <tanlaan> extract*
[07:37] <Jack_Smirnoff> Alien is NOT a good choice..
[07:37] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: that's why i'm trying to remain with it..
[07:37] <freakabcd> dooglus, there tanath and tanlaan
[07:37] <freakabcd> :p
[07:38] <Terminus> ubotu: tell bender about register
[07:38] <dooglus> tanath: no, but someone with a similar nick does :)
[07:38] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, yeah    you should get a blender keymap   they are there     novato_ubuntu you can also /j #blender
[07:38] <tanath> dooglus: i know. hence the ':P'
[07:38] <tanlaan> blah
[07:38] <bender> Terminus, ?
[07:38] <Terminus> meh... that doesn't work.
[07:38] <Terminus> !register
[07:38] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:38] <dooglus> Jack_Smirnoff: is there an alternative to alien if you want to work with rpms?
[07:38] <Terminus> bender: there you go. :)
[07:38] <bender> thanks
[07:38] <tanlaan> ooc what..do...i...do...with..rpms
[07:39] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, i would say to stick with auto cad but pick up blender on the side a little bit
[07:39] <bender> im assuming yall saw my passwd ?
[07:39] <tanlaan> :D
[07:39] <tanath> use rpm?
[07:39] <tanlaan> *oops forget the ooc*
[07:39] <freakabcd> bender, you mean this one: rrpor894!!## ??
[07:39] <freakabcd> :p
[07:39] <bender> ya
[07:39] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: yeap... I'll try to do that now.. on vacation.. :o)
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: sorry.  I didn't mean to include the "/say" in my instructions.
[07:40] <tanlaan> fine then with deb files do i use dpkg?
[07:40] <bender> dooglus,  ya thanks jackass
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: just "/msg nickserv riproror##!!"
[07:40] <dooglus> bender: I did correct myself immediately
[07:40] <purpleidea> would someone know of how to fix a folder and subfolder of permissions? i did a chmod -Rv 664 directory/ but it broke all the directories because they now don't have an execute bit, but i obviously don't want to add the +x to the files... anyone?
[07:40] <cryptid> how do i play mpeg format files in linux.plz help??
[07:40] <tanath> !restrictedformats
[07:40] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:40] <spikeb> !tell cryptid about restrictedformats
[07:40] <bender> ok after i enter that in... what happens...
[07:40] <Terminus> purpleidea: chmod -Rv +X directory/
[07:41] <scorchblade> installer hangs.  clock in the top menu bar stops updating.  cursor still moves nicely.  any chance of debugging this?
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: won't that add +X to my files too?
[07:41] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: but, from what i can see here, Blender is more of a 3d graphics creator, isnt it?
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: take note of the capital X
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: capitals for just dir's ?
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: capital X only applies to dirs. small x touches the files.
[07:41] <purpleidea> Terminus: thank you, much appreciated
[07:41] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, yeah    the CAD aspects you have to add on and improvise
[07:41] <Terminus> purpleidea: you're welcome. :)
[07:42] <jrattner1> QUESTION: In XGL When a window doesnt have focus it turns grey house can i change that
[07:43] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: ahm... because I use autoCAD to make the techinical draw, then I use sketchup for the 3d modelling...
[07:43] <Savage> Why is it that Ubuntu won't let me change my resolution I'm stuck in 640x480
[07:43] <jacksprrow> Savage, you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:44] <jacksprrow> or run   dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:44] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: I'm stuck with that kind of "sketchy" presentations...
[07:44] <rak_> hey i'm having a problem with azuereus... when i get an error or warning popup at the bottom right hand side of my screen i  can't seem to get rid of them no matter what i do, suggestions?
[07:44] <ruth> guys
[07:44] <beerfan> Silly question...can kde apps run on gnome? Why do kde apps show up in the package manager?
[07:44] <spikeb> rak_: my solution was to get rid of azeurus, i couldnt figure out how to make it work
[07:44] <scorchblade> no suggestions on getting the installer unstuck?
[07:44] <ruth> I've dapper and I'd like to install kernel 2.6.17
[07:44] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, cool   i am a mechnical engineer and i like the fact that i can make really nice product modles
[07:44] <Savage> dangit i need a kvm switch i keep using the wrong kb lol
[07:44] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell Savage about fixres
[07:44] <ruth> where to start??
[07:44] <rak_> spkeb: what do you use instead?
[07:44] <jacksprrow> scorchblade,  whats the issue?
[07:44] <megatronn1> oh god, i can't get ati drivers to work
[07:44] <freakabcd> Savage, ever tried synergy ?
[07:44] <Savage> !fixres
[07:44] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:45] <stromham> Gobotu search fixres
[07:45] <Gobotu> fixres: http://devclarity.com/
[07:45] <ruth> !kernel
[07:45] <jacksprrow> Savage, you need to edit xorg.conf
[07:45] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux'). You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:45] <freakabcd> i use one keyboard/mouse for 2 machines (it works with more as well)
[07:45] <ruth> !2.6.17
[07:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about 2.6.17
[07:45] <Smeggy> what should my procedure be when setting up a new monitor on my ubuntu box?
[07:45] <Savage> thanks jack
[07:45] <Smeggy> it hasn't detected the new paramters of the monitor, so the resoltuion setter is still listing modes for the old monitor.
[07:45] <stromham> Gobotu search ubuntu + kernel 2.6.17 + install
[07:45] <Gobotu> ubuntu + kernel 2.6.17 + install: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200691
[07:45] <peanut7836> how would i set up a ppp connection?
[07:46] <crazy_penguin> good morning ladies and gentlemans! a good morning to all of you!
[07:46] <purpleidea> peanut7836: search ubuntu wiki first, there is a nice explanation
[07:46] <peanut7836> ok
[07:46] <stromham> Gobotu search how to setup a ppp connection on ubuntu
[07:46] <Gobotu> how to setup a ppp connection on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[07:46] <stromham> hmm i need to fix that
[07:46] <beerfan> Can KDE apps run on Ubuntu (gnome)?
[07:46] <stromham> no
[07:47] <jacksprrow> beerfan, yes.
[07:47] <stromham> well maybe some
[07:47] <crazy_penguin> :)
[07:47] <Glimmerati> i m having prob on wma and wmv......... any one plz help
[07:47] <purpleidea> peanut7836: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[07:47] <mikeo1> how do i do whats in this guide http://www.linuxhelp.net/guides/tvtuner/
[07:47] <novato_ubuntu> varsendaggr: thank you for your tips! I'll give it a try some day soon!
[07:47] <mikeo1> trying to install my tv card
[07:47] <mikeo1> and dont know how to recompile the kernel
[07:47] <megatronn1> anyone using an ati card? im having driver problems
[07:47] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow, I tried installing one but it didn't run. Do I have to install all of KDE or something?
[07:47] <jacksprrow> stromham, ... or all..
[07:47] <stromham> Gobotu search how to compile the kernel on ubuntu
[07:47] <Gobotu> how to compile the kernel on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24853
[07:47] <jacksprrow> beerfan, what were you trying to install
[07:47] <stromham> jack they have to use gtk 2.0
[07:48] <varsendaggr> novato_ubuntu, you bet,   open source is the way to go....
[07:48] <stromham> not all buddy gnome may not have support for them
[07:48] <jacksprrow> ... no...i have never heard of that ever.
[07:48] <beerfan> Jack_Sparrow, I don't remember. It was a little while ago. I just don't understand the dependency thing very well re kde and gnome
[07:48] <jacksprrow> wtf who was posing as me.
[07:48] <Smeggy> all kde apps will work in gnome and vice versa
[07:48] <jacksprrow> correct.
[07:48] <Smeggy> youll just need the dependencies
[07:48] <stromham> Gobotu search can kde aps be used on gnome?
[07:48] <Gobotu> can kde aps be used on gnome?: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/suse-linux-help/60993-how-do-i-speed-up-suse-10-a.html
[07:49] <stromham> ?
[07:49] <stromham> what is that url
[07:49] <jacksprrow> stromham, why on earth wouldnt it work.. that makes no sence.
[07:49] <stromham> smeggy they must use gtk
[07:49] <mikeo1> how do i edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/bttv-cards.c
[07:49] <mikeo1> it doesnt exist
[07:49] <jacksprrow> you can have both KDE and GNOME installed.. and they will use the required DEPS
[07:49] <stromham> the need gimp tool kit to run on gnome!
[07:49] <jacksprrow> you can install both...
[07:49] <Smeggy> anything will run in gnome
[07:49] <beerfan> KDE won't conflict with gnome?
[07:49] <Smeggy> its just an environment
[07:49] <jacksprrow> no...
[07:49] <jacksprrow> its linux
[07:49] <jacksprrow> wow.
[07:49] <stromham> but thats not his question
[07:49] <mikeo1> how do i edit /usr/src/linux/drivers/media/video/bttv-cards.c when it doesnt exist
[07:49] <Smeggy> its just that some things use a different libary
[07:50] <mikeo1> and recompile the kernel
[07:50] <jacksprrow> stromham,  yes it is.
[07:50] <Smeggy> provided you have those libraries, anything will run in anything else
[07:50] <stromham> no it isnt
[07:50] <stromham> he did not say he had kde
[07:50] <jacksprrow> ok newb...
[07:50] <beerfan> Maybe I'll try another app. One that I installed didn't run so I've always avoided kde apps
[07:50] <stromham> he asked if kde aps work on gnome
[07:50] <jacksprrow> wich they do.
[07:50] <Smeggy> forget about having kde
[07:50] <stromham> not all
[07:50] <jacksprrow> sigh whatever.
[07:50] <jacksprrow> next.
[07:50] <stromham> the must use the gtk to work
[07:50] <Smeggy> if you try to install an app with apt-get that requires a library you dont have
[07:50] <Smeggy> you'll get that library with the app
[07:50] <Smeggy> it's a non issue
[07:51] <jacksprrow> Smeggy, thank you
[07:51] <beerfan> Smeggy, I used apt-get
[07:51] <stromham> its not about getting the lib
[07:51] <hawkaloogie> stromham, if you download all the kde libraries, you can be running Gnome and use KDE apps
[07:51] <stromham> its about being able to create a window on gnome
[07:51] <stromham> with gtk
[07:51] <Smeggy> wth
[07:51] <hawkaloogie> i use k3b, because gnomebaker sucks, and i'm using gnome
[07:51] <jacksprrow> does this guy know anything?
[07:51] <Smeggy> jacksprrow, do you have any idea what stromham is on about
[07:51] <stromham> yes i do im a programmer
[07:52] <hawkaloogie> We are at troll alert yellow! Batton the hatches!
[07:52] <stromham> im no fcking trol!
[07:52] <Madpilot> Folks, cool it...
[07:52] <ruth> Does anybody knows how to upgrade to 2.6.17??
[07:52] <IamEthos> what is the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu?
[07:52] <stromham> i did not say if icant do it you cant
[07:53] <bruenig> edubuntu comes default with some educational games and such for kids
[07:53] <stromham> im stating that to run programs on gnome they need gtk support
[07:53] <IamEthos> aah
[07:53] <Smeggy> ok... gtk+ is the library mainly used by gnome... qt is used by kde... they are both libraries that draw on linux using X11... there are no issues in creating windows with one or the other... you can launch an app that uses qt (kde's library) from gnome and it will run perfectly....
[07:54] <IamEthos> okay, so I'm trying to decide between xubuntu and ubuntu for my younger brother
[07:54] <stromham> ok i had no clue im just so used to windows and forgot about that damn lib sharing
[07:54] <PacketScan> IamEthos, ubuntu
[07:54] <poje> Okay, so my laptop just freaked out: it's only got 128MB of RAM which was almost maxed out from firefox and then system CPU cycles maxed out and the system went into a hang after a while of thrashing
[07:54] <J-_> updating my repo's, i got an error which is
[07:54] <J-_> E: Malformed line 33 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist)
[07:54] <J-_> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[07:54] <J-_> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[07:54] <J-_> how can i fix it?
[07:54] <bruenig> IamEthos, the only real reason to go with xubuntu is if you have some older hardware that you don't think can run ubuntu smoothly
[07:54] <bruenig> !enter
[07:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:54] <poje> Any thoughts on avoiding this?
[07:54] <IamEthos> bruenig, yeah, I know
[07:55] <Madpilot> J-_, pastebin your sources.list, there seems to be something wrong with it...
[07:55] <IamEthos> his machine came with Windows 98 standard
[07:55] <spikeb> IamEthos: how much memory?
[07:55] <IamEthos> I'm wondering how old is too old for ununtu?
[07:55] <Smeggy> how much ram IamEthos?
[07:55] <bruenig> IamEthos, what are the system specs
[07:55] <Jack_Sparro1> I am booted into Ubuntu LiveCDD.  I need to edit the grub.lst on sda7  I could use some help
[07:55] <IamEthos> spikeb, Smeggy, bruenig hmm... I'm not exactly sure. I haven't even booted the computer in sooo long
[07:55] <poje> IamEthos: I'm on a 128MB / 500Mhz laptop
[07:56] <poje> IamEthos: and I run it just fine :D
[07:56] <stromham> go with xbuntu if you want but im running ubuntu with out problems
[07:56] <J-_> is there a source list i can go by to make it work?
[07:56] <spikeb> IamEthos: should probably check that out. should have at least 128
[07:56] <Smeggy> IamEthos, when was the computer made?
[07:56] <cryptid> how do i play avi video files in linux..plz held??
[07:56] <IamEthos> yeah, I'll take a look
[07:56] <stromham> you need codecs
[07:56] <Smeggy> IamEthos, earlier than 2000 go with xubuntu... as a rough guide
[07:56] <poje> !restrictedformats
[07:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <kbrosnan> poje, you might want to try Epiphany, a browser that is close to Firefox
[07:56] <divansantana> Hello everyone!
[07:56] <IamEthos> I think it does have 128, but I'm not sure
[07:57] <bruenig> IamEthos, for ubuntu you need 256 MB of memory
[07:57] <divansantana> does anyone know if and when OpenOffice.org2.0.3 will be released for Ubuntu???
[07:57] <poje> kbrosnan: well I don't think it was firefox specifically to blame...I dunno
[07:57] <Jack_Sparro1> Could someone give me the command to mount sda7. I have terminal window open so   sudo mount xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[07:57] <poje> bruenig: bullcrap ;d
[07:57] <spikeb> divansantana: when the next release of ubuntu comes out, or it might be backported
[07:57] <morphix> with normal ISO's i can mount them using loop options, is it possible to do it with .mds/,mdf files? or if not, how can i extract the data from them?
[07:57] <IamEthos> bruenig, that may be pushing it
[07:57] <Smeggy> Jack_Sparro1, mount /media/mountpoint /dev/sda7 ?
[07:57] <IamEthos> there's no way to order xubuntu cds with shipit, is there?
[07:58] <Jack_Sparro1> What do I use for mountpoint?
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu how to mount sda7 on ubuntu
[07:58] <poje> IamEthos: there is really no reason to worry about hardware specs for Ubuntu unless it's REALLY old
[07:58] <Jack_Sparro1> I would prefer the desktop
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu search how to mount sda7 on ubuntu
[07:58] <Gobotu> how to mount sda7 on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=142481&page=14
[07:58] <bruenig> poje, that is just what it said on the release notes, it might be a little higher than absolutely necessary
[07:58] <leboff> !m4v
[07:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about m4v
[07:58] <stromham> Gobotu search m4v
[07:58] <Gobotu> m4v: http://all-streaming-media.com/streaming-media-faq/faq-mp4-streaming.htm
[07:58] <IamEthos> poje, what's really old to you? This computer could be from 2000 +/- 2 years
[07:59] <Smeggy> i wouldnt wanna use gnome on less than 256mb though
[07:59] <poje> bruenig: recommended != needed/usable
[07:59] <IamEthos> I can't exactly remember when we bought it
[07:59] <leboff> thanks stromham
[07:59] <stromham> smeggy im using on 192 and its awsome
[07:59] <Smeggy> yeah?
[07:59] <poje> IamEthos: this laptop is 500mhz / 128MB and runs just fine
[07:59] <stromham> np leboff
[07:59] <Smeggy> i had it ona  laptop a year ago that had 256mb and it was kinda slow
[07:59] <stromham> lol
[07:59] <Jack_Sparro1> It isnt ntfs but I will read through
[07:59] <stromham> i guess mines just built good?
[07:59] <IamEthos> hmm. alright, well I guess I'll give ubuntu a try and keep xubuntu in mind, just in case
[07:59] <poje> IamEthos: just look at your hardware specs - the only thing about being this old is OOo can be a bit slow
[08:00] <bruenig> OOo is slow on my computer with 512MB and 1.8Ghz
[08:00] <IamEthos> I wish I could get a mixture of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu CDs via shipit
[08:00] <IamEthos> that would be helpful
[08:01] <spikeb> you  can, you just have to put multiple orders in. and they dont do xubuntu
[08:01] <poje> bruenig: haha yeah - on that note, do you know of an alternate way to just view powerpoints on linux?
[08:01] <Jack_Sparro1> That link did not have the info I need...   I need terminal command to mount a ext3 Ubuntu partition and edit my grub.
[08:01] <IamEthos> spikeb, yeah, I know, but my orders won't ship together will they?
[08:01] <spikeb> IamEthos: no
[08:01] <spikeb> sigh
[08:01] <IamEthos> it'd be nice to get like 5-10 of each, let them save on shipping cost
[08:01] <spikeb> yeah
[08:01] <spikeb> i know what you mean.
[08:01] <stromham> Gobotu search how to mount a ext3 ubuntu partition and edit grub on the terminal
[08:01] <Gobotu> how to mount a ext3 ubuntu partition and edit grub on the terminal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113&page=2
[08:01] <bruenig> IamEthos, if you email them from what I have heard they are very responsive to special requests although the requests I heard of were for like 200 discs not a grab bag for a single person
[08:02] <Smeggy> you can just apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.. and so on
[08:02] <Smeggy> from any version of (x|k)ubuntu
[08:02] <spikeb> Smeggy: still leaves one with the task of removing the other cruft
[08:02] <stromham> smeggy what are the differences between x and u buntu
[08:02] <IamEthos> well thanks everyone for the advice
[08:02] <Smeggy> xubuntu uses Xfce stromham
[08:02] <Smeggy> ubuntu uses gnome
[08:03] <stromham> besides that
[08:03] <IamEthos> now I just have to convince him that Gaim/Kopete are just as good as AIM
[08:03] <Smeggy> nothing
[08:03] <Smeggy> its the same core
[08:03] <hawkaloogie> Jack_Sparro1, why do you need to edit grub to mount a partition?
[08:03] <stromham> oh lol
[08:03] <spikeb> IamEthos: kopete is BETTER than gaim
[08:03] <Smeggy> that's the beauty of linux :)
[08:03] <spikeb> IamEthos: er, aim
[08:03] <spikeb> damn it
[08:03] <stromham> im still getting used to linux
[08:03] <IamEthos> spikeb, I'm inclined to agree
[08:03] <IamEthos> but image and file transfers don't work so hot
[08:03] <spikeb> gaim is just different heh
[08:04] <Smeggy> gaim isn't that great
[08:04] <Smeggy> but libgaim is fantastic
[08:04] <stromham> i like gaim
[08:04] <bruenig> I still can't get my stuff to burn to cds, damn linux
[08:04] <IamEthos> which is important to him, I guess :-/
[08:04] <Smeggy> case in point -> adium on osx
[08:04] <Smeggy> uses libgaim :)
[08:04] <stromham> gaim has it problems tho
[08:04] <stromham> like no channel browsing
[08:04] <cryptid> how do i play video files in linux.plz help me?
[08:04] <IamEthos> bruenig, I'm running Gentoo with KDE, but I emerged k3b, and it worked perfectly with no configuration needed
[08:05] <IamEthos> maybe try that?
[08:05] <poje> Gaim is great, just don't use it as an IRC client
[08:05] <Smeggy> yeah
[08:05] <Smeggy> use xchat for irc
[08:05] <stromham> Gobotu: search easybuntu
[08:05] <Gobotu> easybuntu: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html
[08:05] <stromham> there cryptid
[08:05] <poje> Smeggy: I'm partial to irssi ;)
[08:05] <IamEthos> I haven't seen a single IM client that worked well for IRC
[08:05] <bruenig> IamEthos, it will burn DVDs but everytime I pop a cd in it doesn't recognize a disk is there, might be because my drive is a dual DVD and CD drive
[08:05] <stromham> installs codecs and everything
[08:05] <Smeggy> so am i, but i'm also partial to laziness poje ;)
[08:06] <poje> IamEthos: mainly because the usages for IRC and AIM are quite different
[08:06] <efox> is there a way to see how big a folder, directory or file is ?
[08:06] <efox> through terminal that is
[08:06] <efox> im sure there is
[08:06] <poje> Smeggy: haha, touche...but I don't use IRC a lot nowadays so it's easy :D
[08:06] <IamEthos> poje, yeah.
[08:06] <stromham> well it gets the job done
[08:06] <Cainus> hey...can anyone tell me if ubuntu has some default firewall?  it seems to be blocking incoming connections...
[08:06] <dooglus> efox: "du -h <folder>"
[08:06] <IamEthos> I'm starting to actually like IRSSI
[08:06] <IamEthos> weird huh?
[08:06] <stromham> and it allows me to login alot of chat types
[08:06] <efox> dooglus: thanks
[08:06] <stromham> cainus
[08:06] <dooglus> efox: "du -hs <folder>" if you just want the sum
[08:07] <poje> IamEthos: irssi is kickass because you can use it from the CLI
[08:07] <stromham> search synaptic for firestarter
[08:07] <IamEthos> (running a FreeBSD system without any window manager for a server. IRSSI is a lifesaver)
[08:07] <poje> Oh yes
[08:07] <IamEthos> and Lynx
[08:07] <Cainus> stromham: is that some firewall management app?
[08:07] <stromham> Gobotu: search firestarter for ubuntu
[08:07] <Gobotu> firestarter for ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-13659.html
[08:07] <dooglus> poje: irssi's selling point for me is that I can run it inside GNU screen
[08:07] <poje> ^5 to us
[08:07] <stromham> yes
[08:07] <Cainus> stromham: k thanks
[08:07] <stromham> np
[08:08] <poje> dooglus: indeed...I should learn screen sometime
[08:08] <cryptid> stromham:plz tell me how do i play video files?
[08:08] <stromham> you need to download the codecs
[08:08] <stromham> if you search synaptic
[08:08] <stromham> for easybuntu
[08:08] <stromham> it will do it for you
[08:09] <SurfnKid> hi guys
[08:09] <SurfnKid> how do i install Java Runtime?
[08:09] <SurfnKid> if i download the .bin extension
[08:09] <stromham> Gobotu search how + info + easy buntu
[08:09] <Gobotu> how + info + easy buntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199125&page=2
[08:09] <Madpilot> stromham, EasyUbuntu isn't in the default repos
[08:09] <SurfnKid> do i just set it up thru dpkg?
[08:09] <poje> Okay - so what might make Ubuntu freak out and die on me - system CPU spikes for a while and then hangs indefinitely
[08:09] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell SurfnKid about java
[08:09] <stromham> surfnkid
[08:09] <SurfnKid> thx
[08:09] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install jre 5 on ubuntu
[08:09] <Gobotu> how to install jre 5 on ubuntu: http://ubuntuguide.org/
[08:10] <stromham> grrr
[08:10] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: i stay a week out of the ubuntu channel and i forget how to install a package. im such a putz
[08:10] <stromham> he keeps telling poeple to go there
[08:10] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:10] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, the bot never forgets :)
[08:10] <Madpilot> stromham, that's the trouble with Google & Ubuntu currently
[08:10] <bruenig> surfnkid, if you enable the extra repos, you can do it via apt-get
[08:10] <SurfnKid> Madpilot: i need a brain bot transplant
[08:10] <stromham> yes i know
[08:10] <stromham> i will fix that
[08:10] <stromham> im gonna restrict the url
[08:10] <SurfnKid> bruenig: i did, its all added in the synaptic. well let me check a few things
[08:10] <SurfnKid> and read
[08:11] <SurfnKid> Gobotu? new
[08:11] <Savage> is there a way with catalyst control center to vind my refresh rates?
[08:11] <beerfan> SurfnKid, if you have the repositories added, 'sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre'
[08:12] <SurfnKid> beerfan: ahh i was missing that last part
[08:12] <stromham> Gobotu: what are you?
[08:12] <Gobotu> *shrug*
[08:15] <lucas> hi
[08:15] <SurfnKid> beerfan: sun-java5-jre isnt found
[08:15] <SurfnKid> beerfan: if i look for java in synaptic itll come up with a few packages
[08:15] <lucas> what could I use to edit a video ? (remove parts of it, add some text on some parts of it, etc)
[08:15] <Jack_Sparro1> How do I change permissions on a mounted folder.
[08:15] <CrippsFX> Jack_Sparro1, man chmod
[08:16] <CrippsFX> and man chown
[08:16] <stromham> Gobotu search how to change pirmissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu
[08:16] <Gobotu> how to change pirmissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu: not found!
[08:16] <beerfan> SurfnKid, perhaps you don't have the right repository? That's the package name
[08:16] <stromham> wow thats a first
[08:16] <Jack_Sparro1> CrippsFX:  I need it spoonfed to me.. I am exhausted trying to fix this
[08:16] <stromham> Gobotu search how to change permissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu
[08:16] <Gobotu> how to change permissions on a mounted folder on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76314.html
[08:16] <Jack_Sparro1> Go to term.. ok
[08:16] <CrippsFX> Jack_Sparro1, then you need to take a break and try again later.
[08:16] <stromham> there jack
[08:16] <SurfnKid> beerfan: what repo should i have, Ive got everything enabled, universe multiverse, multigalaxy and multinova
[08:16] <XaviusShadow> I'm having a problem running the livecd
[08:17] <SurfnKid> hehe
[08:17] <leboff> can someone recommend a Wireless NIC .. i'm getting a new one, and i want one that just works with ubuntu..
[08:17] <SurfnKid> just trying to run this java thing on the browser
[08:17] <XaviusShadow> I burned the CD as an image using nero, but when I put it in my comp it didn't boot from it.
[08:17] <beerfan> SurfnKid, do you have underverse, multiwhere, and otherverse? :-)
[08:17] <SurfnKid> leboff: my broadcomm 43xx works good, but i hear the Intel 2200 BG is good too
[08:17] <SurfnKid> beerfan: exactly
[08:18] <krinns> hi all
[08:18] <krinns> i am new to kubuntu
[08:18] <freakabcd> ok, some fun for all: http://esscc.uq.edu.au/~imran/dogs/dogs.html
[08:18] <XaviusShadow> Anyone know what I did wrong?
[08:18] <krinns> i need to point my cdrom to my sourcelist
[08:18] <krinns> what should i do for this
[08:18] <Madpilot> XaviusShadow, did you burn the ISO as an ISO?
[08:18] <leboff> SurfnKid: i had a broadcomm 43xx .. there were driver issues :/ had to use fwcutter and stuff.. know of anything that works out of the box?
[08:18] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell XaviusShadow about burniso
[08:18] <SurfnKid> beerfan: well it does show some packages, make and some other options for sdk's, even thr runtime
[08:18] <beerfan> SurfnKid, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[08:19] <XaviusShadow> I burned it as an image using nero
[08:19] <XaviusShadow> That's what I was told to do earlier
[08:19] <stromham> Gobotu search how to point your cdrom to your source list on ubuntu
[08:19] <Gobotu> how to point your cdrom to your source list on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131872
[08:19] <SurfnKid> leboff: wouldnt know for dapper, but bcm43xx worked perfectly with ndiswrapper, i might have to look for a card myself that is nearly 'out-of-the-box' perfect
[08:19] <SurfnKid> beerfan: thnx gonna look
[08:20] <CrippsFX> leboff, bcm43xx works fine in 32 bit Ubuntu, provided you follow the ubuntu wiki directions on enabling it.
[08:20] <XaviusShadow> but after I burned it as an image it still won't run ubuntu
[08:20] <leboff> CrippsFX: unfortunately.. i have amd64
[08:21] <CrippsFX> leboff, for example, I tried doing the "standard" way of enabling it (extract firmware, modprobe ... etc ...), didn't work.
[08:21] <CrippsFX> leboff, it may work.,
[08:21] <stromham> nah there is a howto on it
[08:21] <beerfan> SurfnKid, actually the easiest is use the "add remove" package manager and check the 'show unsupported apps' box. It will find and install from there
[08:21] <leboff> CrippsFX: i used a bcm43xx (a linksys card.. cant remember which) had nothing but problems..
[08:21] <stromham> Goubuntu search wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install
[08:22] <CrippsFX> leboff, bcm43xx is broadcom, not linksys
[08:22] <stromham>  Gobotu search wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install
[08:22] <Gobotu> wpc54g wirless card + bcm43xx + install: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-190967.html
[08:22] <leboff> there ya go..
[08:22] <SurfnKid> beerfan: oh, ok
[08:22] <CrippsFX> anyways brb ... gotta actually do some work.
[08:22] <SurfnKid> beerfan: let me dig up a little more
[08:22] <stromham> bcm43xx is also on linksys
[08:22] <leboff> CrippsFX: i think the linksys card used a broadcomm chipset.. if i remember correctly
[08:22] <stromham> yes
[08:23] <stromham> my card is a bcm43xx
[08:23] <SurfnKid> beerfan: into that unsupported section, thx
[08:23] <beerfan> SurfnKid, that last is the easy way but I always forget it
[08:23] <leboff> all i hear about is trouble with bcm43xx... unless its just a common card... so it makes more noise..
[08:23] <SurfnKid> beerfan: right, well i could just dl the debs n take care of it, but synaptic always comes in handy
[08:23] <beerfan> SurfnKid, if you don't have the necessary repository it asks to add it
[08:23] <beerfan> better to use the package manager I guess
[08:24] <SurfnKid> righ
[08:24] <SurfnKid> t
[08:24] <SurfnKid> ill go thru the commmunity/java steps
[08:24] <beerfan> SurfnKid, those instructions are somewhat dated, before they added it to the repository
[08:24] <leboff> so has anybody had a wireless card.. plugged it in and it just worked?
[08:24] <leboff> or is that just wishful thinking
[08:25] <beerfan> leboff, yeah many cards are well supported
[08:25] <leboff> beerfan: i.e.?
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> leboff: Mine worked ootb
[08:25] <beerfan> leboff, mine 'just worked' but I read a bit first
[08:25] <leboff> tonyyarusso and beerfan.. what cards do you guys have?
[08:26] <beerfan> leboff, I have a netgear with atheros chip
[08:26] <beerfan> leboff, plug n play
[08:26] <Trigger_H> is there any way to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in?
[08:26] <stromham> Wpc54G linksys here
[08:26] <SurfnKid> beerfan: ok gonna check the unsupp. tab
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> leboff: Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 a/b/g
[08:26] <leboff> beerfan: thanks i'll look into it..
[08:26] <leboff> tonyyarusso: thanks
[08:26] <stromham> Gobotu search how to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in
[08:26] <Gobotu> how to VNC into a ubuntu machine that isnt logged in: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-59799.html
[08:27] <mikeo1> anyone know how to get audio off my tv card
[08:27] <beerfan> leboff, here's a list http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility
[08:28] <leboff> beerfan: just what i was lookin for.. thanks
[08:28] <stromham> Gobotu search how to get audio off tv card on ubuntu
[08:28] <Gobotu> how to get audio off tv card on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=200344
[08:28] <Madpilot> stromham, is Gobotu yours?
[08:28] <stromham> yes
[08:28] <mikeo1> lol
[08:28] <Madpilot> just wondering - it's new to the channel ;)
[08:28] <stromham> Gobotu botsnack
[08:28] <Gobotu> stromham: schweet!
[08:29] <stromham> anyone can use it
[08:29] <stromham> to search just type Gobotu search your search here
[08:29] <stromham> Gobotu your mission?
[08:29] <Gobotu> beats me
[08:29] <stromham> Gobotu my mission?
[08:29] <Gobotu> my mission is to provide support to the Goubuntu project and to ensure a safe haven for IRC users to talk on.
[08:29] <Trigger_H> stromham: i dont think the link you sent me helped, it was just a debate about how secure the VNC protocol is.  Nothing about getting VNC to work without a user logged in.
[08:30] <beerfan> stromham search how to use Gobotu
[08:30] <mikeo1> how come tvtime crashes in xgl
[08:30] <stromham> trigger gimme a sec
[08:30] <Trigger_H> ty
[08:30] <stromham> can you please explain you question more?
[08:30] <stromham> so i can make a setter search
[08:31] <stromham> better*
[08:31] <Savage> any one know where I could get 3dfx drivers for my voodoo in my linux box
[08:31] <Trigger_H> i would like to VNC into a ubuntu box (dapper) that isnt currently signed on
[08:31] <Jack_Sparro1> Wish me luck...
[08:31] <leboff> ive pretty much given up on non-brand name computer periphs.. if i want them to work with linux..
[08:31] <stromham> Gobotu search where to get 3dfx drivers for vodoo on linux
[08:31] <Trigger_H> i know it works when someone is signed on
[08:31] <Gobotu> where to get 3dfx drivers for vodoo on linux: http://www.voodoofiles.com/
[08:31] <CarlFK> Trigger_H: have you installed the VNC server on it?
[08:31] <Trigger_H> yes, it works when someone is signed on
[08:32] <XaviusShadow> Here's my problem... I burned the iso the right way, I also have my comp set to boot from CD, it still won't boot from the cdrom I burned
[08:32] <Trigger_H> It just doesnt let me do it when it is at the user login screen.
[08:32] <stromham> Gobotu seach how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on
[08:32] <Gobotu> can do!
[08:32] <mikeo1> lol
[08:32] <snoops> XaviusShadow if you put the cd in, from your windows box.. it should autorun and just show a few basic things like firefox etc?
[08:32] <leboff> stromham: seach aint gonna do it
[08:32] <snoops> does it?
[08:32] <leboff> Gobotu search how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on
[08:32] <Gobotu> how to VNC into ubuntu + dapper + that is not signed on: http://www.port7.co.uk/category/mark/geek/
[08:32] <CarlFK> Trigger_H: when I messed with it about a year ago, you would get a whole new desktop - it had nothing to do with what was being displayed on the screen, and nothing to do with who was logged in.
[08:33] <mikeo1> Gobotu search tv card audio
[08:33] <Gobotu> tv card audio: http://www.hauppauge.com/pages/products/data_pvr500mce.html
[08:33] <XaviusShadow> I dunno... it's loading windows now snoops, I'll find out in a sec
[08:33] <stromham> Gobotu search how to setup computer to boot from disk.
[08:33] <Gobotu> how to setup computer to boot from disk.: http://www.bootdisk.com/
[08:33] <mikeo1> Gobotu search kitejumping
[08:33] <Gobotu> kitejumping: http://www.kitejumping.org/
[08:33] <mikeo1> :p my site
[08:33] <Healot> holy
[08:33] <stromham> please dont abuse
[08:33] <stromham> you will get me in trouble
[08:34] <Edvinas> how to quit computer throuh console?
[08:34] <stromham> Gobotu search how to quit computer throught console on ubuntu
[08:34] <Gobotu> how to quit computer throught console on ubuntu: http://irc.13thfloor.at/LOG/2005-09/LOG_2005-09-13.txt
[08:34] <stromham> Gobotu search how to quit computer through console on ubuntu
[08:34] <Gobotu> how to quit computer through console on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-31763.html
[08:34] <stromham> use second link edvinas
[08:34] <stromham> first one has a typo
[08:35] <snoops> stromham gosh that feels like one spamming bot
[08:35] <Madpilot> Edvinas, "sudo shutdown now" works
[08:35] <Trigger_H> Gobotu echo "hi";
[08:35] <Trigger_H> haha :)
[08:35] <XaviusShadow> snoops it utoruns on my xp system but it doesn't on my '98 system
[08:35] <dooglus> Trigger_H: use package 'vncserver' to allow vnc connections when nobody is logged in
[08:35] <stromham> please dont abuse Gobotu i dont want it to get kicked
[08:35] <XaviusShadow> snoops well it sorta autoruns
[08:35] <snoops> XaviusShadow k cool.. just to check the cd actually has the files on it
[08:36] <stromham> snoops im not trying to spam
[08:36] <XaviusShadow> snoops it has the files on it... just checked all 600+ MB
[08:36] <stromham> it has helpout alot of people today
[08:36] <snoops> stromham it feels like it though ;)
[08:36] <Madpilot> stromham, if people do keep poking the bot when they dont' need to, I might ask you to remove it...
[08:36] <stromham> ok i will put a lock on the bot
[08:36] <stromham> so only i can use it
[08:36] <stromham> if they abuse
[08:36] <snoops> there's also the danger of sending people to links you've never looked at yourself
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> snoops so what do you say I should do?
[08:37] <stromham> nah most are good links and help them out
[08:37] <snoops> XaviusShadow umm so you definitely have your cd rom set to first boot device in bios?
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> ayup
[08:37] <stromham> did you burn cd from iso image?
[08:37] <snoops> has booting from cd ever worked for ya?
[08:37] <XaviusShadow> Ayup
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops depends on if my comp wants to love or hate me
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops it wants to hate me tonight
[08:38] <stromham> you went to file>burn cd from iso and then burned it?
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> stromham I used nero and burned it as an image
[08:38] <dooglus> how can I read ".lit" format e-books in ubuntu?
[08:38] <stromham> ok
[08:38] <dooglus> is there a 'clit' package available somewhere?
[08:38] <snoops> dooglus err lit is the microsoft ebook format.. hmm
[08:38] <dooglus> snoops: right.
[08:38] <XaviusShadow> snoops my comp always boots from cds tho, should I download a linux boot disc?
[08:39] <snoops> oh definitely XaviusShadow
[08:39] <raddy> Hello everybody
[08:39] <dooglus> snoops: 'clit' is Convert LIT - it makes it readable without MS software
[08:39] <stromham> Gobotu search how to open .lit files on ubuntu
[08:39] <Gobotu> how to open .lit files on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=158821
[08:39] <ice_1963> can i still get gnomebaker?
[08:39] <snoops> it'll just be using el torito which all boot cds use
[08:39] <mikeo1> Gobotu search how to configure lirc
[08:39] <Gobotu> how to configure lirc: http://librenix.com/?inode=8095
[08:39] <raddy> how do i download a file in debuntu without using apt?
[08:39] <dooglus> Gobotu search clit
[08:39] <Gobotu> clit: http://opensource.microarray.omrf.org/wiki/pub/BASE/BASEUserList/clit-59.html
[08:39] <XaviusShadow> snoops I'll download it and copy it to a disc, brb
[08:40] <raddy> can browse the available packages?
[08:40] <XaviusShadow> snoops I'm working on two comps so bear with me
[08:40] <stromham> Gobotu my mission?
[08:40] <Gobotu> my mission is to provide support to the Goubuntu project and to ensure a safe haven for IRC users to talk on.
[08:40] <Savage>  does any one if there is way to configure my current winxp pc if i have a network card install to send internet to my linux box
[08:40] <snoops> XaviusShadow download what? and sure
[08:40] <ianm_> anyone know the name of that tech demo video where it moved smoothly from space to a planet's surface
[08:40] <Madpilot> dooglus, wow... that google search could have been... interesting... ;)
[08:40] <mikeo1> how do i configure lirc
[08:40] <stromham> lol
[08:40] <Madpilot> stromham, does Gobotu use google.com/linux, or what?
[08:40] <dooglus> Madpilot: it wasn't - the result is a 404
[08:40] <stromham> it uses google and ask
[08:40] <byen> Guys, I need some help as this issue is driving me insane.. my Dapper cannot see my external hdd
[08:41] <byen> which Breezy did
[08:41] <byen> flawlessly
[08:41] <Trigger_H> Yes! finally got Samaba to share NTFS partitions!!!
[08:41] <stromham> byen please reword that into a question
[08:41] <dooglus> Madpilot: oh, maybe not.  the terminal program is thinking that the timestamp on the next line is part of the URL
[08:41] <jme_> hey, has anyone installed DRI?
[08:41] <jme_> it's hard!
[08:41] <byen> I have an external USB drive which does not show up anywhere on Dapper
[08:41] <byen> it does not automount
[08:42] <XaviusShadow> snoops what should I download? www.bootdisk.com/linux.htm
[08:42] <byen> and i dont know what to do
[08:42] <stromham> Gobotu search how to use external usb hhd on ubuntu
[08:42] <Gobotu> how to use external usb hhd on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80811&page=23
[08:42] <stromham> there byen
[08:42] <snoops> XaviusShadow do you have a floppy drive?
[08:42] <jme_> I'm getting errors trying to compile libdrm - should I just ignore it and use the universe package?
[08:42] <XaviusShadow> snoops I do, use it for everything
[08:42] <stromham> jme
[08:42] <stromham> whats the problem?
[08:42] <Savage> XaviusShadow: why not get ubuntu?
[08:42] <stromham> what are you trung to do?
[08:43] <XaviusShadow> Savage I have it, my cd drive doesn't want to boot from the cd for some reason
[08:43] <SurfnKid> didnt think java would be such a wild adventure
[08:43] <mikeo1> mode2: error opening /dev/lirc
[08:43] <mikeo1> mode2: No such file or directory
[08:43] <jme_> well, I'm getting an error about aclocal when I tryo to compile libdrm, per the instructions at http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building
[08:43] <raddy> how do i download a package in debuntu without using apt?
[08:43] <stromham> Gobotu search help on lirc
[08:43] <snoops> raddy wget?
[08:43] <Gobotu> help on lirc: http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/archive/index.php/t-45323.html
[08:43] <Savage> in your bois did you change your settings to boot from cd first?
[08:44] <byen> that link shows me how to install ubuntu on an external usb.. all i want is to use an external usb drive
[08:44] <raddy> snoops: but, url?
[08:44] <XaviusShadow> Savage of course I did, My comp just hates me at times
[08:44] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install + compile + libdrm
[08:44] <Gobotu> how to install + compile + libdrm: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/CompileXserverManually
[08:44] <Savage> lol, is the jumper on master?
[08:44] <jme_> do I really need to compile X?
[08:44] <jme_> tell me I don't
[08:44] <XaviusShadow> Savage better be, I built the ungrateful POS
[08:44] <stromham> Gobotu search help on lirc on ubuntu
[08:44] <Gobotu> help on lirc on ubuntu: http://list.wylug.org.uk/pipermail/wylug-help/2005-May/003385.html
[08:45] <raddy> snoops: i can't browse its packages using firefox
[08:45] <snoops> raddy.. umm well you should know the url.. wget url.. may end with .deb
[08:45] <hanasaki> can someone test a site and see if it crashes your firefox on ubuntu 6.06?  I have a fresh install of 6.06 and the browser crashes...
[08:45] <Savage> lol, guess it doesnt want to like you today
[08:45] <stromham> sure
[08:45] <stromham> url?
[08:45] <snoops> umm but why would you browse the repositories without using apt raddy?
[08:45] <hanasaki> stromham: can i msg you.. ya need to go through a cuple pages to get there
[08:45] <XaviusShadow> Savage It never likes me, I gave the thing life and it just spits in my face and drinks beer all day, sound like any robots ya know?
[08:46] <kbrosnan> hanasaki, I am interested too
[08:46] <XaviusShadow> snoops 	I'm gonna try one more thing, I'll disable it from booting to anything other than the CD Drive and see if that works
[08:46] <raddy> snoops: i didn't configure it yet, and i wanna get one single package quickly thats why
[08:46] <hanasaki> meet me in #ffcrash
[08:47] <Savage> Xavius: ugh i cant remeber his name the one from futurama right?
[08:47] <SurfnKid> beerfan: got it man thanx
[08:47] <snoops> raddy apt-get install packagename.. what's there to configure?
[08:47] <XaviusShadow> Savage: Correct, Bender
[08:47] <hanasaki> stromham:  meet me in #ffcrash
[08:47] <byen> !external hd
[08:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about external hd
[08:47] <raddy> snoops:we should first add the repo na?
[08:48] <SurfnKid> beerfan: downloaded jre and bin files, ran them as the instructions say and installed
[08:48] <jme_> any idea why I'd get errors with aclocal, or why Ubuntu doesn't come with aclocal to start?
[08:48] <byen> !external hard disc
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about external hard disc
[08:48] <byen> *sigh*
[08:48] <jme_> !mount
[08:48] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[08:48] <tritium> SurfnKid: you know that there are sun java packages in dapper multiverse?
[08:48] <dooglus> jme_: ubuntu is for end users.  end users don't need aclocal?
[08:48] <beerfan> SurfnKid, oh? Add remove didn't work?
[08:48] <byen> thanks jme :)
[08:48] <jme_> I need aclocal!
[08:48] <litage> hey guys, what's port 0 (zero) used for? i just found this in my logs:   list 155 permitted tcp 219.129.237.67(0) -> 202.168.41.171(0), 1 packet
[08:48] <Savage> !network
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about network
[08:48] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[08:48] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[08:49] <Savage> !networking
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about networking
[08:49] <Trigger_H> !life
[08:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[08:49] <jme_> well, I'm trying to get it, but I don't see any packages providing it
[08:49] <Savage> lol trigger
[08:49] <snoops> raddy oh if you have a seperate url.. you should just be able to go in a web browser.. definitely.. like the address + the /whatever at the end
[08:49] <Trigger_H> sorry
[08:49] <leboff> Here's a fun one.. I  have 1 500 GB drive and 1 160 GB drive .. how can i save 250 GB of files from the 500 drive  without buying a new drive (the 500 drive cant be partitioned.. fakeraid.. RAID 0)
[08:49] <stromham> Gobotu search network
[08:49] <Gobotu> network: http://www.networksolutions.com/
[08:49] <jme_> any idea how I might get aclocal?
[08:50] <hanasaki> stromham: you coming?
[08:50] <stromham> Gobotu search how to get aclocal on ubuntu
[08:50] <Gobotu> how to get aclocal on ubuntu: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/f-spot-list/2005-August/msg00115.html
[08:50] <byen> can anyone tell me how i can manually mount my external hd
[08:50] <raddy> snoops: this the apt repo source http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse
[08:50] <byen> i dont want to install win just to use my ext usb hd drive
[08:50] <raddy> snoops: how can i browse the packages using a browser?
[08:50] <stromham> Gobotu search how to manually mount a external hard drive on ubuntu
[08:50] <Gobotu> how to manually mount a external hard drive on ubuntu: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Add_a_new_hard_drive
[08:51] <Savage> would it be possible to route the internet through my winxp computer?
[08:51] <beerfan> byen, 'man mount'. it depends what filesystem it has
[08:51] <byen> fat32
[08:51] <SurfnKid> hey tritium how ya goin...  well actually running breezy so had to do the manual download of packages, but installed correctly, i bringg up java runtime on my browser yey :)
[08:51] <KenSentMe|zzz> Does anyone know how i can add an emailaddress to my gpg key?
[08:51] <SurfnKid> beerfan: remove not sure, didnt run it
[08:51] <XaviusShadow> snoops what boot disk should I download from www.bootdisk.com/linux.htm to boot it from floppy and run the cd?
[08:51] <tritium> SurfnKid: oh, I see :)
[08:51] <snoops> still no go XaviusShadow?
[08:51] <XaviusShadow> snoops nope
[08:51] <stromham> Gobotu search how to add an email adress to gpg key
[08:51] <Gobotu> how to add an email adress to gpg key: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/doc/html/ar01s04.html
[08:52] <Madpilot> stromham, many of the things you're hitting Gobotu for already have !tells in ubotu...
[08:52] <snoops> XaviusShadow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203586
[08:52] <raddy> snoops: for example i wanna download gaim-libnotify from there, how do i?
[08:52] <Trigger_H> XaviusShadow: USB boot not an option?
[08:53] <XaviusShadow> Trigger_H What do you mean by USB boot?
[08:53] <Trigger_H> Some mobos let you boot off of USB pen drives
[08:53] <stromham> Gobotu search how to download gaim-libnotify on ubuntu + synaptic package manager
[08:53] <Gobotu> how to download gaim-libnotify on ubuntu + synaptic package manager: http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=10282&offset=15&rows=30&threshold=-1
[08:53] <XaviusShadow> Trigger_H: No I don't have any USB drives
[08:53] <SurfnKid> tritium: now im just running some VoIP tests thru this java pluggin, and got mooore forum readin to do. we have communication probelms. bleh. :P
[08:53] <Savage> !wine
[08:53] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:53] <[Ex0r] > is there any software out for ubuntu that you can use to burn .bin, .iso, .cue files ?
[08:54] <snoops> [Ex0r]  for iso you can just right click the iso and click burn
[08:54] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I already have it on a cd, I don't want to have to wait another 5 hrs for ubuntu to download and install again, is there a way to get a boot disk that will install it from the cd?
[08:54] <dooglus> [Ex0r] : nautilus can burn .iso files
[08:54] <tritium> SurfnKid: ah, sorry to hear
[08:54] <[Ex0r] > what about .bin files ?
[08:54] <stromham> Gobotu search how to burn .bin .iso .cue files on ubuntu
[08:54] <Gobotu> how to burn .bin .iso .cue files on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-22262.html
[08:54] <snoops> XaviusShadow read the link..
[08:54] <dooglus> [Ex0r] : mplayer can play .bin files, but I don't know about burning them
[08:54] <Savage> any one know how to route internet through a winxp computer with a network card
[08:55] <Healot> extension is fake... file would check the type for you
[08:55] <mikeo1> kernel headers are the same thing as kernel source right?
[08:55] <tritium> mikeo1: no
[08:55] <stromham> Gobotu search how to route internet through a windows xp computer with a network card on ubuntu
[08:55] <Gobotu> how to route internet through a windows xp computer with a network card on ubuntu: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/41307-internet-sharing.html
[08:55] <tritium> stromham: please stop that
[08:55] <mikeo1> nm found it
[08:55] <coopster> ok, trying to boot the ubuntu dapper 6.06 livecd, and it hangs.  i have a ubuntu install on the hard drive, and it hangs.  they all hang during boot up, on the splash screen it's when "Mounting root filesystem," but with "quiet splash" removed from the boot params, it hangs immediately after trying to load the OHCI, can someone pls help?
[08:56] <tritium> mikeo1: if you're building kernel modules, you only need headers, though
[08:56] <mikeo1> nope guide needs the source
[08:56] <mikeo1> because for some reason lirc is a pain in the ass to install for ubuntu
[08:56] <tritium> guide?  for what?
[08:56] <stromham> tritium it has been helping out people all day
[08:56] <mikeo1> and the package is broken
[08:56] <byen> thanks for the help anyways guys.. I guess i might as well have win installed.. i dont think my ext hd can work on dapper. but what pisses me off is that it workeed great out of the box on breezy
[08:56] <mikeo1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30612&highlight=lirc
[08:56] <tritium> stromham: ubotu has been helping people out for over a year
[08:56] <stromham> mike01
[08:56] <dooglus> Gobotu search how to rid an IRC channel of noisy bots
[08:56] <Gobotu> how to rid an IRC channel of noisy bots: http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/applications/mirc/1010445/
[08:56] <stromham> one more try ok?
[08:57] <mikeo1> ?
[08:57] <[Ex0r] > im not trying to mount the file, im trying to burn it to a cd
[08:57] <stromham> Gobotu search how to install lirc on ubuntu
[08:57] <Gobotu> how to install lirc on ubuntu: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-20952.html
[08:57] <Savage> stromham that link it gave me might work lol
[08:57] <stromham> ok
[08:57] <XaviusShadow> snoops: So I should download instlux and do it that way?
[08:57] <stromham> see
[08:57] <dooglus> Gobotu: that link is a review of mIRC!  can't you make your results linux-related at least?
[08:57] <Gobotu> no clue
[08:57] <stromham> i help
[08:57] <tritium> *sigh*
[08:57] <snoops> stromham k3b may be able to burn it.. there are converters.. to convert bin/cue to iso
[08:58] <snoops> XaviusShadow well that page talks about using a floppy cd to boot into it, then get the system running enough to boot into linux.. but it doesn't sound like a fun solution at all
[08:58] <byen> would it help if i remove dapper and reinstall breezy and upgrade?
[08:58] <tich> what program places icons on the desktop?
[08:59] <Healot> !info bchunk
[08:59] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[08:59] <coopster> I cant get any form of ubuntu to boot on my nForce based mobo.  it all hangs when loading the OHCI support.  any help would be appreciated
[08:59] <coopster> pls
[08:59] <snoops> tich isn't just everything from /home/username/Desktop automatically placed on the desktop?
[08:59] <tritium> stromham: please remove Gobotu.  Please ask before introducing new bots to official chanels.
[08:59] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Well I don't really have much of a choice, I mean it says I can download instlux in one of the site links then make it install from the cd or the network without having to redownload.
[08:59] <Madpilot> tich, nautilus actually handles the icons, but anything can have an icon on your desktop
[08:59] <stromham> Gobotu search application to place icons to the desktop on ubuntu
[08:59] <Gobotu> application to place icons to the desktop on ubuntu: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Desktop_EyeCandy
[08:59] <tritium> channels, even
[08:59] <stromham> Gobotu sleep
[08:59] <raddy> snoops: this the apt repo source http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse, how can i go into it via web browser
[08:59] <mman> hi all
[08:59] <coopster> Gobotu part
[08:59] <Gobotu> insufficient "join" auth (have 10, need 50)
[08:59] <coopster> ...
[08:59] <coopster> lol
[09:00] <tich> snoops: yes but what decides where on the desktop to place it?
[09:00] <stromham> leave it alone when i type sleep
[09:00] <Gobotu> tritium: :(
[09:00] <Eleaf> Does anybody at all here have vmplayer working???
[09:00] <snoops> tich if i were programming it, I'd just loop through the spaces, and find the first free one then assign it to that
[09:00] <stromham> gimme a sec
[09:00] <stromham> i will kill him
[09:00] <tritium> Thank you
[09:00] <coopster> bah, anyone awake enough to help me out?  been struggling with this ubuntu all day
[09:01] <tich> snoops: would it be metacity or the window manager?
[09:01] <coopster> gobotu quit
[09:01] <Madpilot> stromham, auto-rejoin is not cool, especially in bots...
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu kill
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu part
[09:01] <Gobotu> insufficient "join" auth (have 10, need 50)
[09:01] <stromham> lol
[09:01] <Eleaf> Does anybody have vmplayer working? lol
[09:01] <snoops> oh umm the window manager tich.. for instance I use compiz instead of metacity, and it doesn't affect icon placement
[09:01] <stromham> Gobotu quit
[09:01] <Gobotu> insufficient "quit" auth (have 10, need 90)
[09:01] <stromham> 1 sec
[09:01] <stromham> im going into his teerminal
[09:02] <CrippsFX> Gobotu, STFU
[09:02] <mikeo1> how do i get the kernel source
[09:02] <stromham> q sec
[09:02] <CrippsFX> :P
[09:02] <coopster> ok, trying to boot the ubuntu dapper 6.06 livecd, and it hangs.  i have a ubuntu install on the hard drive, and it hangs.  they all hang during boot up, on the splash screen it's when "Mounting root filesystem," but with "quiet splash" removed from the boot params, it hangs immediately after trying to load the OHCI, can someone pls help?
[09:02] <stromham> 1 sec
[09:02] <stromham> im shutting him down
[09:02] <mikeo1> for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:02] <timfrost> !info linux-source
[09:02] <ubotu> linux-source: Linux kernel source with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:02] <mikeo1> i cant find it
[09:03] <tich> snoops: yeah i use openbox and it always places my icons under my top panel. do you know how to adjust it?
[09:03] <mikeo1> dpkg -L linux-image-2.6.15-25-amd64-generic there is not main dir
[09:03] <snoops> tich gnome settings in gconf-editor?
[09:03] <mikeo1> its scattered everywhere
[09:03] <stromham> you guys have issues
[09:03] <mikeo1> where can i get the source in 1 file
[09:03] <stromham> dont want a useful program that has helped ot alot fo people today
[09:04] <tritium> stromham: we have ubotu, and he's been around a lot longer than a day, and is our official bot
[09:04] <stromham> i dont care
[09:04] <coopster> yay, so stfu about it then
[09:04] <mikeo1> root@mikesbeastlinux:/usr/src# apt-get source 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic          E: Unable to find a source package for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:04] <mikeo1> WTF?
[09:04] <t> hi. had anybody success running tracker?
[09:04] <stromham> just because something is helping
[09:04] <tich> snoops: okay i'll check it out.
[09:05] <mikeo1> where are these ubuntu people hiding there kernel source
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: you are mistaken
[09:05] <stromham> he will be back...
[09:05] <stromham> someday
[09:05] <mikeo1> ubuntu is sucking right now for lack of a source file
[09:05] <efox> how do you create a tar in another directory ?
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: please abide by the channel policies
[09:05] <snoops> tich I may be completely off the mark.. I've asked gnome questions in #gnome before and well.. completely unhelpful.. so uhh I suggest searching forums and whatnot
[09:05] <stromham> he only helped like 100+ users in a day
[09:05] <efox> im trying to create a backup of a folder in my /home and i want to store it else where, but its not working
[09:05] <Madpilot> stromham, it's an intesting idea, but we've already got a couple of bots in residence, and ubotu can be chatty enough already...
[09:05] <tritium> stromham: enough
[09:06] <stromham> no
[09:06] <tich> snoops: do you know where it would be? --i assume it is under desktop but i don't know where to go from there.
[09:06] <stromham> i have full rights to talk
[09:06] <KenSentMe> When i add myself to launchpad i see my mailaddresses in plain text. Isn't that what spammers use to collect mailaddresses?
[09:06] <stromham> constitution
[09:06] <mikeo1> WHERE IS THE KERNEL SOURCE
[09:06] <snoops> tich your guess is as good as mine, sorry :/
[09:06] <tritium> mikeo1: calm down, people have told you
[09:06] <stromham> well i could tell you if i had gobotu
[09:06] <mikeo1> gobotu is useless
[09:06] <mikeo1> google will bring up a bunch of junk on nvidia
[09:07] <coopster> stromham:  if you want to be helpful, go google it yourself and then privmsg him.
[09:07] <tritium> stromham: we also have a code of conduct here, and we've asked you nicely.
[09:07] <stromham> that dumb
[09:07] <coopster> don't spam the channel with 1 line of you asking and 1 line of a random url
[09:07] <Eleaf> Nobody has vmplayer working here?!
[09:07] <mikeo1> so does anyone know where it is?
[09:07] <stromham> and i also have full rights to say what i want
[09:07] <timfrost> mikeo1,if you need the source, and not just the headers, the critical meta-package is linux-source
[09:07] <stromham> im not spamming
[09:07] <stromham> and im not cussing
[09:07] <mikeo1> what is that
[09:07] <Healot> I am spamming lots of mail accounts
[09:07] <coopster> stromham:  news flash - this aint america, this is the internet.  you don't have "rights" here, you have a chan op who has told you to drop it.  do so.
[09:07] <Healot> legally hohoho
[09:08] <stromham> yes i do have rights i have treaties to protect what i say
[09:08] <tritium> stromham: you're _strongle_ encouraged to stay on topic
[09:08] <snoops> omg stromham.. off topic.. -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:08] <tritium> strongly, even
[09:08] <onispawn> you guys need to take this conversation else where. this is a support channel
[09:08] <stromham> and the freenode servers are in ca in usa
[09:08] <stromham> im done now
[09:08] <mikeo1> THIS IS A SUPPORT CHANNEL!!!!!!! now where is the kernel source for 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:09] <coopster> speaking of which, i cant get the ubuntu live cd or an installed version to boot on my nforce based motherboard because it hangs when loading the OHCI support, can someone please help me diagnose/fix this?
[09:09] <snoops> nforce 1,2,3,4 coopster?
[09:09] <tritium> mikeo1: you'll find people are more willing to help if you're patient and not insistent
[09:09] <DarkMageZ> mikeo1, no-one here is paid to help you, so no-one here has to. second, you have already been told
[09:09] <Madpilot> stromham, there are actually Freenode servers all over the world - but that's a topic to be continued on #ubuntu-offtopic, if at all
[09:09] <mikeo1> i dont think i have been told
[09:09] <tritium> you have, someone even got info on the source package for you from ubotu
[09:10] <coopster> snoops:  its an asus A8N-VM mobo, with the nForce430 southbridge
[09:10] <snoops> coopster checked the forums for people with similar issues (I had zero issues with my nforce4)
[09:10] <mikeo1> lol ctrl-w quits in xchat, too used to nano
[09:10] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I have another question if you don't mind
[09:11] <coopster> snoops:  googled for half the day, i can not find anything like this
[09:11] <snoops> :(.. gotta go need to get home
[09:11] <tritium> mikeo1: you're using dapper
[09:11] <tritium> ?
[09:11] <coopster> ah well
[09:11] <coopster> !source
[09:11] <mikeo1> yes
[09:11] <stromham> you guys are assholes and have pissed me off im sorry my bot helped people and made your obsolete. you need to lower you dam egos and just accept help
[09:11] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:11] <Random1> does anyone know anything about vsftpd?
[09:12] <Healot> me an asshole, yes I am
[09:12] <XaviusShadow> can someone tell me what I would insert when using these commands to install linux with loadlin from a cd "loadlin  name_of_kernel  initrd=name_of_initrd  distribution_specific_options
[09:12] <coopster> rofl @ that guy
[09:12] <tritium> mikeo1: you'll see above someone pointed out the kernel-source package
[09:12] <tritium> Healot: watch the language
[09:12] <tritium> !info kernel-source
[09:12] <mikeo1> linux-source-2.6.15
[09:12] <ubotu> Package kernel-source does not exist in dapper
[09:12] <mikeo1> lol
[09:12] <tritium> mikeo1: linux-source
[09:12] <tritium> my bad
[09:12] <mikeo1> will linux-source-2.6.15 work with 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic
[09:13] <tritium> mikeo1: sure, the source is for all archs
[09:13] <mikeo1> ok didnt know that, thanks
[09:13] <XaviusShadow> anyone know?
[09:15] <mikeo1> if i upgrade from 2.6.15 will my drivers still work, or will i have to recompile
[09:15] <foxiness> hi
[09:15] <XaviusShadow> stromham do you know?
[09:15] <Random1> can someone PLEASE tell me how to disable the shift + Backspace restarting xserver?
[09:15] <tritium> XaviusShadow: he took his toys and went home, since he was upset
[09:15] <XaviusShadow> damn, I need help getting this installed
[09:15] <Lobster> uninstall xserver
[09:15] <Lobster> *g*
[09:15] <Random1> don't be a n00b
[09:16] <Random1> anyone"
[09:16] <Random1> ?*
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to use loadlin to install linux from a cd
[09:16] <tarjei> Hi, should the evms pacakge be installed on breezy by default?
[09:16] <dli> Random1, for xorg, it's Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> but I can't figure out what I should tell loadlin to find
[09:16] <XaviusShadow> the command is loadlin  name_of_kernel  initrd=name_of_initrd  distribution_specific_options
[09:16] <Random1> well im just hitting shift backspace and it does it
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> Random1, shift+backspace doesn't restart the normal xserver, are u running a modified version? such as xgl?
[09:17] <Random1> yes
[09:17] <Random1> yes i am
[09:17] <tritium> XaviusShadow: this is an ubuntu support channel.  Do you have an ubuntu question?
[09:17] <foxiness> after i remove firestarter and shorewall ,did this will put me in new problem? or it will return me to orginal status
[09:17] <DarkMageZ> Random1, please goto #ubuntu-xgl for that question
[09:17] <Random1> ok
[09:17] <Random1> now my next question..
[09:17] <XaviusShadow> tritum that is a ubuntu question... I'm trying to install ubuntu and my comp won't boot from the cd...
[09:17] <Random1> how do i set up FTP access to my www directory on my ubuntu server
[09:17] <XaviusShadow> tritium... sorry
[09:17] <tritium> XaviusShadow: you said linux (generically), and didn't specify ubuntu
[09:18] <Eleaf> nobody has ever used vmware here?
[09:18] <XaviusShadow> well I'm talking about ubuntu
[09:18] <Eleaf> nobody??
[09:18] <Eleaf> vmplayer??
[09:18] <foxiness> nobody mean nobody here :)
[09:18] <mikeo1> i have used vmware
[09:18] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to install it and my comp won't boot from the cd, I need to figure out a way to have it boot from a floppy and install from the cd
[09:18] <mikeo1> not vmplayer
[09:18] <Eleaf> lol
[09:18] <mikeo1> the real version
[09:18] <mikeo1> installed vista in it lol
[09:19] <jme> so, any ideas on aclocal?
[09:19] <foxiness> after i remove firestarter and shorewall ,did this will put me in new problem? or it will return me to orginal status
[09:20] <jme> I can't find source for it or anything, urg
[09:20] <tritium> foxiness: please rephrase your question, with more detail, so we know what you're trying to ask us
[09:20] <dli> XaviusShadow, http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en
[09:22] <foxiness> tritium, its safe to remove this firewall app , and it will not broken my network connection
[09:22] <DarkMageZ> Random1, you could either install & setup an ftp server, or you could just access those files via ssh
[09:23] <krinns> hi all
[09:23] <tritium> foxiness: it won't break your network connection
[09:23] <foxiness> hi krinns
[09:23] <krinns> is there any tool for fw i kubuntu
[09:23] <foxiness> tritium, thanks
[09:23] <krinns> as we have susefirewall in suse
[09:23] <krinns> what abt kubuntu
[09:23] <XaviusShadow> dli: Thanks, now I'm getting somewhere
[09:29] <Random1> DarkMage, i have an FTP server installed but i dont know how to set it up
[09:29] <jme> krinns: Linux is a firewall :)
[09:29] <jme> !firewall
[09:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[09:30] <raddy> How do i directly download from apt source?
[09:30] <nile> raddy, what do you mean?
[09:31] <ruxpin_> raddy: apt-get?
[09:31] <raddy> nile: a web site posted only apt source, but how can i download packages using browser
[09:32] <nile> raddy, you have to add it to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[09:32] <nile> raddy, then you update your package repositories - then you can use synaptic :)
[09:32] <mikeo1> make modules takes too long
[09:32] <Madpilot> raddy, if you've got web access, you're far better off using apt-get to download packages
[09:32] <raddy> nile: can't i download the package without apt?
[09:32] <mikeo1> make needs to be SMP so it can use both cores
[09:33] <nile> raddy, maybe I don't know what you mean. what does the website provide? an apt repository or a dpkg package?
[09:34] <raddy> nile: http://repository.debuntu.org/ dapper multiverse how to get into this url using browser?
[09:34] <Random1> how do i browse folder in Nautilas in root if im doing it over SSH?
[09:36] <Madpilot> raddy, that's not quite a URL - seriously, let apt-get deal with packages, it's far easier than trying to download stuff manually
[09:37] <killaz> hi how can I make sure that I removed an application with his configuration files...
[09:37] <killaz> so instead of apt-get remove ****
[09:38] <snoops> apt-get remove --purge packagename
[09:38] <raddy> Madpilot: i have not yet configured the source in apt, but can't i get into that using browser? how do apt reads a path when contain spaces?
[09:38] <nile> raddy, you can't. add that line to your /etc/apt/sources.list then use apt to get it
[09:38] <nile> raddy, look in your existing /etc/apt/sources.list. they ALL have spaces :)
[09:39] <raddy> nile: how does apt deals with it?
[09:39] <nile> raddy, I don't know
[09:40] <nile> it grabs the package listing from the URL and figures out which packages are available from it
[09:40] <nile> but I'm not familiar with the details
[09:40] <mikechong1010> hi
[09:41] <mikechong1010> hello anyone there?
[09:43] <elknof1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16824   <---how can i fix it??
[09:43] <nile> mikechong1010, people are here
[09:44] <killaz> snoops, thnx!
[09:45] <lucas> somebody know a simple alternative to cinepaint ?
[09:45] <nile> elknof1, are you running that when X has started? is that the entire output?
[09:45] <ALDI> Hi! I want to setup a FTP server on ubuntu, but "sudo apt--get install proftpd" doesn't work. The package could'nt be found. The pc has no internet connection...
[09:46] <nile> ALDI, if the pc doesn't have an internet connection, how are you providing the proftpd package? (and how do you host an ftp server that isn't connected to the internet?)
[09:47] <ALDI> nile: so proftpd isn't on the server install cd? the ftp server is going to be uses as a lan webserver where the html pages are going to be uploaded via ftp
[09:47] <Warbo> lucas: If you want to add graphics to a video then maybe render your graphics as an AVI with an alpha channel (mencoder?), then merge it on top of the original video with a video editor like LiVES or Kino
[09:47] <elknof1> nile, yup...
[09:47] <gore_> does anyone know how to change the setting of a gnome panel so its not always ontop?
[09:48] <mikeo1> drag it down
[09:48] <gore_> talking to me/
[09:48] <elknof1> nile, in runned it under konsole actually...  and that is the entire output
[09:48] <raddy> how sources.list works?
[09:48] <elknof1> i runned*
[09:48] <Warbo> gore_: Maybe don't use it expanded?
[09:49] <leeyee> Hey guys!
[09:49] <bigfoot1> i've got a folder of text files. how can i do a cli search for text within the files in one directory?
[09:49] <leeyee> Anyone who uses ASUS notebook?
[09:49] <gore_> oh yah warbo
[09:49] <gore_> =] 
[09:50] <Warbo> raddy: "deb" or "deb-src" tells APT whether a repository is binary or source, the URL is obviously the location of the packages then the rest of the line is which distribution and sections should be used (usually to differentiiate between free and non-free or stable and cutting edge)
[09:51] <raddy> Warbo: okk, so http://example.com/foo.deb would exists?
[09:51] <nile> elknof1, er, so X is working? what's the problem, then?
[09:51] <raddy> Warbo: or, is it has any directory structure?
[09:52] <Warbo> raddy: "deb http://example.com ubuntu main" would probably be more accurate. The packages are stored in a folder called "pool" by the way
[09:52] <raddy> Warbo: ohh
[09:53] <Warbo> raddy: The structure is "[URL] /pool/[section] /[initial letter] /[package name] /package.deb
[09:53] <caturOK> hello
[09:54] <raddy> Warbo: great job, thank you
[09:54] <caturOK> can i ask something about chillispot here
[09:56] <Random1> what's the command to copy a directory to another location?
[09:56] <Warbo> Random1: "cp -r directory newlocation"
[09:56] <Random1> ty
[09:57] <elknof1> its an error in mplayer...     wait  i'll show you the output on mplayer...
[09:57] <elknof1> nile, its an error in mplayer...     wait  i'll show you the output on mplayer...
[09:59] <Meshyf> Anyone willing to help a ubuntu noob out?
[09:59] <Warbo> Meshyf: What's the problem?
[09:59] <KenSentMe> Meshyf: just ask your question
[10:00] <nile> !ask
[10:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <Meshyf> I was reading the wiki and it said that you could install it with the freespace from your window's partition. Does it have to be free space away from the partition or can it use free space on the partition?
[10:00] <Random1> what's the command to do a reboot?
[10:00] <tct> hi I just installed ubuntu on another computer but the network isnt working
[10:00] <SVisor> Random1: sudo shutdown -r now
[10:00] <raddy> Warbo: i'll frankly describe my purpose, i am using suse, i want convert gaim-libnotify debian package available from http://repository.debuntu.org/
[10:00] <Random1> ty
[10:00] <KenSentMe> Random1: if your are in terminal type sudo reboot
[10:00] <Warbo> Meshyf: It has to be out of the partition. You can shrink a Windows partition to free up some space
[10:01] <Meshyf> How do I go about shrinking it?
[10:01] <tct> I tried everything I know but cant get it to work
[10:01] <Warbo> !gparted
[10:01] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:01] <raddy> Warbo: i know how to convert the package once i get it
[10:01] <Lynoure> Meshyf: I thought the installation can repartition for you, by changing the size of the original partition
[10:01] <Healot> !departed
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about departed
[10:01] <Lynoure> I'm sure dapper beta did that for me.
[10:01] <Warbo> Meshyf: Check out that LiveCD link
[10:01] <raddy> Warbo: bit i donno how to get it, because it has only yast source
[10:02] <Warbo> raddy: I don;t know how Yast works sorry
[10:02] <Meshyf> I was looking during the install for the partitioning help but it was unclear.
[10:02] <Warbo> AA! I have got to stop using semicolons instead of apostrophies!
[10:02] <tct> anyone?
[10:02] <elknof1> nile:
[10:02] <elknof1> it seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available.
[10:02] <elknof1> Run 'xvinfo'to verify its Xv support and read DOCS/HTML/en/video.html#xv!
[10:02] <elknof1> See 'mplayer -vo help' for other (non-xv)video drivers. Try -vo x11
[10:03] <raddy> Warbo: you don't need to, yast doesn't support apt, but how do i obtain that package?
[10:03] <Healot> elknof1: are you using 3D acceleration?
[10:03] <Warbo> elknof1: Change the video output in Preferences to X11
[10:03] <elknof1> sorry  it was to pastebin... my mystake
[10:03] <Warbo> raddy: What I mean is that I don't understand the sturcture that Yast uses (if any) so I wouldn't know where the package would be found
[10:04] <tct> so I have a computer without a working network connection that wont even respond to ping what do I do?
[10:04] <Schalken> is flash player 8 available for linux?
[10:04] <bloads> Hey guys how do I uninstall GRUB?  I need to format this whole machine, and Ubuntu is the only OS on it.
[10:04] <elknof1> i been trying using 3d acceleration, but not succesfully...  (mobility radeon 9000) i think theres a bug-i read so-           and what video output should i use then??
[10:04] <pvd2006> If I already have 3 primary partitons and one extended partition and I resized one partition into two, how can I create a new partition to put a bootable operating system onto?
[10:05] <Warbo> Meshyf: It is quite straight forward. Open up GParted (the partitioning tool) click on your partition then go "move/resize" (I think) and drag the right-hand end of the box over to the left. Then apply the changes
[10:05] <Warbo> Schalken: Only in WINE
[10:05] <Pharaoh_Atem> i have a problem now, the kernel installed on my ubuntu machine doesnt have a kernel header package!
[10:05] <tct> ...
[10:05] <caturOK> can i ask something about chillispot here
[10:05] <raddy> Warbo: the package won't be found in yast, it is only in that site i said
[10:05] <Schalken> bloads: GRUB installs configures itself automatically if ubuntu detects another operating system during the install. if you to configure it after installing, i dont know...
[10:05] <caturOK> anybody here know chillispot
[10:05] <Meshyf> Thanks a lot man :D
[10:05] <Meshyf> I'll try it out.
[10:05] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: The packages all have headers, if it is custom then you use the source (headers are just a cut-down source)
[10:06] <Schalken> Warbo: thanks
[10:06] <Schalken> !grub
[10:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:06] <Pharaoh_Atem> its the standard ubuntu kernel version 2.6.12-9-386
[10:06] <Warbo> Schalken: Install Windows Firefox in WINE then go on a Flash based site
[10:06] <bloads> So GRUB will go away if I just install Windows right now?
[10:07] <bloads> And later on I can just destroy this partition
[10:07] <Warbo> raddy: I would just suggest moving around the site in a browser until you find the package
[10:07] <SVisor> bloads: Windows will install its own bootloader yes
[10:07] <bloads> Awesome, thanks
[10:07] <Pharaoh_Atem> !offtopic
[10:07] <tct> I installed ubuntu on my windows xp box which words perfectly fine in a second partition, Now I cant access the network ... the computer does not even respond to ping now. Can someone help me here?
[10:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, flash 8 will never be available for linux, flash 9 is available for windows
[10:08] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: is there any reason why?
[10:08] <SVisor> tct: You do not give much to go on. Do your system have two (or more) network cards?
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, we should have flash 9 on linux in early 2007, and if not, some adobe developers will probley get run down =D
[10:08] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: That is the standard one for breezy. linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386 should be in the repos
[10:08] <Pharaoh_Atem> its not there
[10:08] <Schalken> DarkMageZ: lol, cool, thanks
[10:08] <DarkMageZ> Schalken, adobe are lazy !@#$'s. so they skiped flash 8 for linux
[10:08] <raddy> Warbo: the site only provides apt source, but as per your instruction i can't get into their repository using browser
[10:09] <Pharaoh_Atem> Warbo: look http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/
[10:09] <cyphase> http://utterlyboring.com/archives/2005/09/13/aol_idiots.php
[10:09] <tct> SVisor : It has 2 network cards one is onboard but disabled in the bios and the other is in  pci card
[10:10] <tct> could ubuntu have somehow detected the onboard nic even though it is disabled in the bios?
[10:10] <elknof1> Schalken: acces this page    www.dodge.com.mx, then click on download flashplayer. it will redirect to the download place, the download the tar file there, untar, go to the dir where you untar the file, then ./flashplayer-installer
[10:10] <dutoitd> How do i mount a windows fat32 partition after the installation?
[10:10] <SVisor> tct: in a CLI try "dmesg | fgrep eth0" should show if Ubuntu sees the HW
[10:10] <Pharaoh_Atem> tct, yes
[10:10] <raddy> anybody has gaim-libnotify  ?
[10:10] <elknof1> !gparted
[10:10] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:11] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: What is the problem? I see http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[10:11] <Schalken> elknof1: yes i have flashplayer 7, but not 8, which is apparently unnavaliable
[10:11] <tct> SVisor, Pharaoh_Atem> ok I have to run back over to that pc to try it
[10:11] <elknof1> uhh..  ok....   well  it doesnt exist for linux...
[10:11] <cute_bettong> hi im trying to remove transgaming point2play cedega from my system
[10:11] <Pharaoh_Atem> Warbo, i found it, they changed the names afterwards
[10:12] <cute_bettong> and it wont leave the gnome menu is there a way to get it outta my menus?
[10:12] <caturOK> hm
[10:12] <Amaranth> Pharaoh_Atem: Ubuntu has always used linux-source, linux-headers, and linux-image for it's kernel packages.
[10:12] <Schalken> what's firefox's installation path? (/usr/lib/..........?)
[10:12] <caturOK> no anybody know about chillispot here
[10:12] <dutoitd> How do i mount a windows partition to ubuntu after installation?
[10:12] <Warbo> Pharaoh_Atem: "kernel-image/source/headers" is for 2.4, they changed to "linux-image/source/headers" with 2.6 (since Debian can use HURD, FreeBSD, etc.)
[10:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> ahh
[10:13] <Pharaoh_Atem> well
[10:13] <caturOK> firefox install at /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/
[10:13] <Lobster> dutoitd, ask the wiki
[10:13] <Schalken> caturOK: thanks
[10:13] <caturOK> mount about windows
[10:13] <caturOK> i know about that
[10:13] <Warbo> !mount
[10:13] <caturOK> u mean u want rw and r right
[10:13] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[10:14] <neenaoffline> I've installed wdm and I want to switch back , I tried editing the default manager config file to "/usr/bin/gdm" but that does not work :(
[10:14] <caturOK> /dev/hda5       /u dir fat        vfat    defaults,rw,user,umask=000      0       0
[10:14] <caturOK> example
[10:14] <caturOK> ntfs different
[10:14] <tct> SVisor, Pharaoh_Atem: I am not familar with the name it gave me, but it dint have the cnet pro name in it
[10:14] <Warbo> neenaoffline: Maybe install and run "galternatives"
[10:14] <caturOK> edit u /etc/fstab
[10:14] <Amaranth> !ntfs
[10:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[10:15] <caturOK> how about me
[10:15] <caturOK> i ask
[10:15] <caturOK> something chillispot here
[10:15] <caturOK> anybody know abouot that
[10:15] <Amaranth> caturOK: Never heard of it, sorry.
[10:15] <caturOK> how about
[10:15] <tct> so it could be using my disabled nic, if so how can I stop it from doing that
[10:15] <caturOK> nocat
[10:15] <SVisor> tct:  How do you give IP to your system? (DHCP?)
[10:15] <Pharaoh_Atem> tct, it doesnt neccessarily recognize as you would
[10:15] <Amaranth> caturOK: Nope.
[10:15] <caturOK> T_T
[10:15] <tct> I disabled dhcp and use a static ip address
[10:16] <tct> I gave all my computers a static ip after I got fed up of them changing (my router dosent support static dhcp)
[10:16] <SVisor> tct: The quick and ugly test would be to switch the cable to the other card and try again.
[10:19] <chetan> hi all. when i try to install automatix and type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in the terminal nothing happens. can anyone help?
[10:19] <tct> ok brb
[10:20] <caturOK> anybody here know about authentication hotspot
[10:21] <caturOK> do u have install gtk
[10:21] <caturOK> or clib
[10:21] <caturOK> glib i mean
[10:21] <Lobster> you want to edit it in the terminal?
[10:21] <caturOK> terminal use
[10:21] <caturOK> vim
[10:21] <caturOK> nano
[10:21] <caturOK> joe
[10:21] <caturOK> pico
[10:21] <Lobster> then type sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:21] <Lobster> www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:21] <tct> SVisor the onboard one isnt working ... the light on the switch didnt even come on
[10:21] <snoops> chetan using kde?
[10:21] <Meshyf> ok I'm back on that live Cd now
[10:22] <Spleenfeeder> Is it possible to change the 2nd of two distinct gnome desktops' window decoration without affecting the first desktop? (note no xinerama or twinview)
[10:22] <chetan> snoops: - using ubuntu breezy
[10:22] <Meshyf> What kind of partition should I use for Ubuntu?
[10:22] <tct> I used a ext3
[10:22] <snoops> chetan ah.. that should have gedit.. gosh.. sudo apt-get install gedit is one option, for a gui editor.. or you can use nano like lobster suggested
[10:23] <snoops> Meshyf yep ext3 is a safe bet
[10:23] <Meshyf> Even with an NTFS parttion for windows on the smae drive?
[10:23] <Random1> whats the command to copy a single file to another location?
[10:23] <Healot> !smp
[10:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about smp
[10:23] <tct> make sure you dont delet any portion of the NTFS drive to make room for linux
[10:23] <Spleenfeeder> cp file /path/to/file1newplace
[10:23] <thefish> Random1: cp /path/to/file /path/to/new/location/
[10:23] <tct> that will mess up windows
[10:24] <snoops> Meshyf if you want to be really smart though, you could have 3 partitions.. a swap one (rule of thumb is twice your ram), a ext3 one for / (around 15-20gb) and /home for the rest
[10:24] <Random1> ty
[10:24] <Meshyf> Thats how I have it set up at the moment.
[10:24] <Meshyf> @ snoops***
[10:24] <Lobster> a nice gtkbased editor is mousepad
[10:24] <Spleenfeeder> Is anyone using dual head without xinerama or twinview with gnome?
[10:24] <Meshyf> 20 GB for Ubuntu, 500 Swap and the rest is NTFS for windows.
[10:24] <tct> SVisor any idea what to do next here?
[10:25] <SVisor> tct: The other card is turned of then. Well try: "dmesg | fgrep -i eth". Should show if your system is seing any eth card. No idea, not realy.
[10:25] <snoops> Meshyf oh right.. you're not resizing ntfs to make that, I hope
[10:25] <tct> ok
[10:25] <tct> thanks for your help
[10:25] <Meshyf> Yea I am oO
[10:26] <snoops> Meshyf k.. should be fine.. I've always found resizing partitions to be an incredibly risky business, no matter the os
[10:26] <SVisor> tct: Thanks for nothing more likely. :-( Well your best shot would be to see if Ubuntu sees any NICs. And start from there.
[10:26] <Meshyf> Aight. I thought that was bad lol.
[10:26] <snoops> better hope that ntfs partition is defragmented to hell
[10:26] <Spleenfeeder> I resized an ntfs to install a copy of dapper once, it went surprisingly well :)
[10:27] <tct> I only see one nic
[10:27] <snoops> Spleenfeeder cool beans.. my trust is increasing! +1
[10:27] <SVisor> tct: Does it get eth0 or eth1 as its name.
[10:27] <tct> I will try enabling the onboard one in the bios and see if that helps
[10:27] <tct> I only see eth0
[10:28] <Spleenfeeder> I'm not saying it wasn't a fluke or anything, There was "space inbetween". I installed ubuntu right at the end of the drive, so to speak
[10:28] <tct> in the network thing there is ppp0 but thats a winmodem so thats a whole other story
[10:28] <SVisor> tct: What does "cat /etc/network/interfaces" tell you
[10:28] <XaviusShadow> I'm having problems still, the disk I made to boot into an installer doesn't work, anyone know where I can find a floppy disk installer and instructions?
[10:28] <caturOK> where i can find authentication channel at irc
[10:29] <Muiske> Hello - I have my desktop (the one I'm working on now) and a laptop hooked up on the network (one modem/router), how can I connect from the desktop to the laptop? Anyone?
 you need a switch
[10:29] <Spleenfeeder> Muiske: How are you trying to hook them together? ethernet?
[10:30] <tct> connect the switch to the router with a cross cable
[10:30] <Muiske> Spleenfeeder: yes, ethernet
[10:30] <tct> and connect all other pc's with straight through cables to the switch
[10:30] <Muiske> tct: ok, what kind of switch do I need?
[10:30] <Lynoure> or hub, if you have one instead or get one free (not worth buying)
[10:30] <r0bby> any kind.
[10:30] <tct> any one with at least 3 ports for 2 pc's
[10:31] <chetan> snoops - i tried using nano and i got the file opened in the terminal how do i save it?
[10:31] <dibblego> in Nautilus, I have moved a file "to the Garbage Bin" - how do I get it back?
[10:31] <tct> the switch will need one port for the router and one additional port for each pc
[10:31] <Muiske> Ok, I thought that a network should be created if I connected two computers to the same modem or router.
[10:31] <Muiske> Ah, I see.
[10:31] <tct> rember to connect the router and switch via a cross cable not a straight through
[10:31] <Meshyf> It wont complete the shrink for somereason...
[10:31] <CrashProne> I heard that getting the Ubuntu version of wine just doesn't run as well as getting it off the official site.. is that still true in Dapper?
[10:32] <narx|ask> hi there
[10:32] <XaviusShadow> Is anyone else having problems connecting to the ubuntu site?
[10:32] <stefg> me... wiki is down
[10:32] <tct> you can connect 2 computers with a cross cable but i dont think that is what you want ... cause you will still end up buying another nic for the desktop pc
[10:32] <protocol1> is there a reason why I have to re-login to msn messenger on gaim once in awhile?
[10:32] <Warbo> CrashProne: The WINEHQ one will always be newer, so maybe have the best features quicker, but I find that there are a few conflicts with Dapper packages (a few libs)
[10:33] <Meshyf> having problems shrinking NTFS here.
[10:33] <XaviusShadow> well, anyone have any idea how I can install ubuntu from a floppy, I have the cd it just won't boot
[10:33] <XaviusShadow> or even install it over a network
[10:33] <Warbo> Meshyf: What happens?
[10:33] <Meshyf> Fails the last step and goes back to the way it was.
[10:33] <protocol1> is there a setting that I could set to have it stop that?
[10:33] <Warbo> Meshyf: Last step? (sorry, I haven't done it in a while)
[10:34] <_RCM_> anyone know how i can change to permissions for a module owned by root
[10:34] <_RCM_>                whose group is root....and by that i mean i can chmod it but after every
[10:34] <_RCM_>                shutdown and restart the changes do not stay
[10:34] <Meshyf> Warbo: It goes kind of fast and I don't have time to catch up to it.
[10:34] <Warbo> Meshyf: OK. Hang on, I will re-familiarise myself with the commandline tool.......
[10:34] <Meshyf> Warbo: Thanks
[10:34] <spades> _RCM_ try chattr -i   +i would restore it back
[10:35] <SVisor> protocol1: If MSN connection drops out you have one of two: 1) Your on a dialup connection, and your ISP disconnects you. 2) Something else disconnects you
[10:35] <_RCM_> spades: thanks
[10:36] <Yahkiller> sup
[10:36] <tct> is there a gui tool to edit which partition I boot from after I install ubuntu?
[10:36] <tct> there was one with debian but I forgot its name
[10:37] <pppoe_dude> tct, gparted
[10:37] <pppoe_dude> oh wait nvm
[10:37] <dibblego> where is the so-called "garbage bin"?
[10:37] <pppoe_dude> :P
[10:37] <spades> dibblego .Trash in your homedir?
[10:37] <pppoe_dude> dibblego, ~/.trash
[10:37] <chetan> snoops- thanks for ur help... btw do u have any idea why my gedit is not working
[10:37] <dibblego> ah thanks
[10:38] <Warbo> Meshyf: Do you know the kind of size you want to change it to?
[10:38] <poje> chetan: not working how?
[10:38] <Meshyf> I want to change my NTFS to two drives. 20GB Ext3 and 500 mb swap
[10:38] <protocol1> SVisor, think it could be the settings on my wireless router?
[10:38] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to install ubuntu, My comp won't boot from the cd, any other ideas?
[10:38] <protocol1> im using wpa security
[10:39] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: try booting from the other CD instead?
[10:39] <protocol1> well the wireless all in all gets cut off once in awhile
[10:39] <narx|ask> guys, there exist the kernel-build package for the kernel shipped with dapper 6.06?
[10:39] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: Nope... I'll try it and tell you what happens
[10:40] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: I mean 'alternate' as opposed to 'live', or vice versa
[10:40] <narx|ask> i mean, the 2.6.15-25-386 kernel
[10:40] <Warbo> Meshyf: "sudo ntfsresize -i /dev/hda1" (where /dev/hda1 is your harddrive partition) will tell you what kind of space is available (how small you can make it)
[10:40] <Schalken> is there a way to scroll up in the tty? a command dumped a lot of data and i can only see the last of it!
[10:40] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: It took me 5 hours to download the live cd...
[10:40] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: oh dear.
[10:40] <Warbo> Schalken: shift-PgUp
[10:40] <mikeo1> how long does the ubuntu kernel usually take to build
[10:41] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: slow connection?  or slow download site?
[10:41] <Schalken> Warbo: oh cool thanks!
[10:41] <Lfe> hey, i'm currently installing the 6.06 server. it doesn't seem to recognize my rt2500sta wireless card. do i have to load the module manually?
[10:41] <CrashProne> Warbo: well, I installed WineHQ's significantly newer looking package from their repos.. no evident conflict (yay) hopefully my installer will work now. :-P
[10:41] <Warbo> Schalken: Doesn't go up very far though (if it is LOADS of output)
[10:41] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: I have a 30-50kbps connection
[10:41] <Lynoure> mikeo1: usually enough for a coffee break and a leasurely smoke, I'd estimate.
[10:41] <Meshyf> Warbo: well according to Gparted, size is 114,471 MB total. 55,933 MB free. I'm a total noob with this so sorry for my inexperience.
[10:41] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: Well 30-50kbps download speed
[10:42] <Schalken> Warbo: wait, Shift+PageUp does nt do anything :(
[10:42] <Warbo> CrashProne: I think libmjpeg was the main problem I had (though I don't know why WineHQ has it, or why I have it :))
[10:42] <mikeo1> this "make modules" is taking forever
[10:42] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: So I can't even get lucky enough to have a comp to myself for another 5 hrs to download another version
[10:42] <mikeo1> on a dual core amd 4400
[10:43] <mikeo1> debating whether to go to sleep or wait for it to finish
[10:43] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: I was hoping to find a floppy to boot to and install it from the network or the CD
[10:43] <mikeo1> almost 4am lol
[10:43] <tct> SVisor I just enabled the onboard nic ... the light on the switch comes on now. "cat /etc/network/interfaces" tells me all but eth0 are dhcp while eth0 is static, address 192.168.254.1, subnet mask 255.255.255.0, gateway 192.168.254.254 (which is the ip of my router)
[10:43] <mikeo1> heh just finished :D
[10:44] <Warbo> Meshyf: Hmm. Last time I used ntfsresize it changed the partition size too, not just the filesystem size. Looks like it is now a little more dangerous to use directly, especially since I have only used it a little before. I tell you what though, QTParted has never given me a problem with resizing (older versions of GParted gave me trouble)
[10:44] <tct> the computer still dosent respond to ping
[10:44] <Schalken> Warbo: shift+pgup doesnt do anything :(
[10:44] <tct> A computer without a net connection is useless these days
[10:44] <BloodmaN> hi all
[10:44] <Meshyf> Warbo: Link to QTparted ploz
[10:45] <BloodmaN> I'm from Russia
[10:45] <BloodmaN> and you?
[10:45] <Warbo> mikeo1: If you are compiling a custom kernel then turn off the modules you don't want. That decreases the time quite a bit
[10:45] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: hmm.  I expect it's possible, but I don't know how.
[10:45] <Schalken> Australia!
[10:45] <Warbo> !qtparted
[10:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about qtparted
[10:45] <BloodmaN> cool
[10:45] <Warbo> Thought not
[10:45] <mikeo1> compiling lirc
[10:45] <SVisor> tct: Can you ping from the machine, your router as an example. Yeah I agree. dmesg should give you a hint on which cards are alive and which not.
[10:45] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: I heard of someone installing from inside windows - apparently you can get windows to boot a CD or something.
[10:45] <Warbo> mikeo1: Sorry, I was mixing up people :)
[10:45] <Meshyf> Warbo: Huh?
[10:45] <mikeo1> heh
[10:46] <BloodmaN> suck my dick
[10:46] <Warbo> Meshyf: Google, Sourceforge, Freshmeat. Something will come up. I'll have a look
[10:46] <Meshyf> I'd love to but for some reason the live cd wont launch firefox D:
[10:47] <ubuntu> (noob considering ubuntu speaking): what is the root password on the live cd?
[10:47] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: My comp doesn't support cd boot, but I just found something very helpful http://linux.simple.be/tools/sbm
[10:47] <tct> SVisor> cant ping my router or any other computer
[10:47] <Schalken> is there a way to change the screen resolution of the tty?
[10:48] <neenaoffline> what command do I have to give to logout?
[10:48] <Meshyf> Warbo: Live Cd isn't booting firefox for some reason :X
[10:48] <Schalken> neenaoffline: exit?
[10:48] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: it's usually a BIOS setting, whether to boot from CD or hard disk first; I guess you know that, but if not, try looking at the 'boot' setting in the BIOS settings
[10:48] <neenaoffline> Schalken: no
[10:48] <neenaoffline> I'm using wm2 as my window manager
[10:49] <neenaoffline> I want to know how to logout from the GUI terminal :)
[10:49] <XaviusShadow> dooglus: I've set it to boot from cd, my comp is just being a buttspasm and doesn't want to do it.
[10:49] <tct> can i setup ubuntu so it boots directly to the desktop without me having to login?
[10:49] <dooglus> XaviusShadow: OK
[10:49] <Warbo> Meshyf: qtparted.sourceforge.net is the homepage, but it has no LiveCD (you may have to get KNOPPIX or something)
[10:49] <tct> the login this is really annoying
[10:49] <dooglus> tct: yes
[10:49] <tct> how?
[10:49] <Meshyf> I got knoppix I guess I'll try it from there.
[10:49] <Warbo> tct: System>Administration>Login Window Settings
[10:49] <dooglus> tct: are you using gdm?
[10:50] <Meshyf> Warbo: Thanks for the help man. I'll be back to let you know if I made it through this tricky work D:
[10:50] <tct> I am using what ever came with the 6.06 live cd
[10:50] <dooglus> tct: then what warbo said.  or "sudo gdmsetup" - same thing
[10:50] <tct> I think its gdm
[10:50] <Schalken> tct: System>Administration>Login Window>Security (tab)>Automatic Login tick
[10:50] <SVisor> tct: Then its truly dead. Can the system ping itself on the 192... address? You could always conf eth0 on one address, and then eth1 on another and try em out. But now Im grasping. Truly dont have a clue anymore.
[10:51] <dooglus> sorry - "gksu gdmsetup" before I get told off for advising the use of sudo with gui apps.
[10:51] <tct> ok thanks man
[10:51] <funkmaster> can someone provide me with some help concerning a hauppauge wintv go pci card and lirc, can't get lirc to work with it..
[10:54] <xi0n> Anyone haveing frostwire problems in here?
[10:54] <mikeo1> /usr/src/lirc-0.8.0/drivers/lirc_gpio/lirc_gpio.c:52:41: error: ../drivers/media/video/bttv.h: No such file or directory
[10:54] <mikeo1> broken source?
[10:55] <nbjayme> hello, i am using cups web interface... how do you force cups to list all printers and drivers?
[10:56] <Healot> broken sauce
[10:56] <Remo_A> since using ubuntu, my thinkpad (t40p) fan is running all the time, that means even when cpu idle. What is used here for controlling fan speed?
[10:57] <Schalken> is there a way to change the resolution of the tty? (you could in 5.10, cant find it in 6.06)
[10:58] <ghenry> anyone know how to stop services on startup, like fedora interactive on the boot console?
[10:59] <avis> is there a non destructive ext3 partition resizer package in ubuntu ?
[11:00] <SVisor> tct: To setup a network: 1) Check link (the green led on card and router/switch - HW ok) 2) System can "ping 127.0.0.1" (Kernel agrees, we have network). 3) "ifconfig" to verify cards and setup (I changed config. and the kernel accepted it) 4) Ping system on its real address (routs are more or less right). 5) "route -n" to verify that default route is sane (we might have access to the big word). 6) ping default gateway (route actually work
[11:02] <davro> when trying to gobby i keep getting this error GThread-ERROR **: GThread system may only be initialized once. aborting... ?
[11:03] <SVisor> tct: Obviously you have to manually verify output from "ifconfig" and "route". But should be fairly easy to understand their output.
[11:04] <AlexC> I am trying to install MySQL/PHP4 and Apache. I have got PHP4 and Apache working, but when I installed PHPMyAdmin I get this error when I go to localhost/phpmyadmin " Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration "
[11:05] <jumper> hi all who can help me to find pinnacle pctv 60e drivers for ubuntu?
[11:05] <ALDI> AlexC: To prevent that I'm trying to install XAMPP (http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html#377)
[11:06] <ALDI> Anyhow, I am getting "/bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: /opt/lampp/lib/libncurses.so.5: ELF file data encoding not big-endian" when I try to start XAMPP with " sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start" Some knows what might be the problem?
[11:07] <AlexC> ALDI, Hum, I'd rather install the main packages etc instead od xampp
[11:08] <martins> Why i can`t install automatix
[11:08] <martins> in terminal show that packages are broken
[11:09] <martins> help pls
[11:09] <jumper> hi where can I find drivers for my pinnacle pctv 60e usb device^
[11:09] <jumper> ?
[11:09] <jumper> pls help
[11:09] <martins> help
[11:10] <cryptid> how do i play .rm files in linux.plz help?
[11:10] <martins> people help pls?
[11:10] <martins> it`s important
[11:11] <Bonkers> hey im getting this error
[11:11] <Bonkers> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[11:11] <Bonkers> what should i do?
[11:12] <Healot> download real player for linux, cryptid
[11:13] <blkdomini> hi all
[11:13] <Healot> !info realplayer > cryptid
[11:13] <ubotu> realplayer: Real Player (installer). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 8.0.11 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:14] <stefg> Bonkers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions#head-7107aa54c2b866dd3f3609441ca2b5bb63d314de
[11:14] <jumper> WHO CAN HELP ME TO FIND DRIVERS FOR MY PINNACLE PCTV 60E USB DEVICE? PLEAAAAAASE HELP
[11:15] <stefg> stop shouting, this is the best method for being ignored
[11:15] <IO> Look for Driver from Debian...
[11:15] <F0LL0W3R> heey how can i add the resolution 1024768 to ma xorg.conf file ?
[11:16] <stefg> !fixres
[11:16] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[11:17] <Bonkers> stefg: got the soloution i think now, needed xorg dev files
[11:17] <stefg> i knew that..
[11:18] <stefg> But i won't support your laziness :-)
[11:19] <vlt> Hello. I'm connecting from an iso8859-15 knoppix via ssh to ubuntu with UTF8. How can I change the locale setting on the client to acces utf8 encoed files?
[11:19] <Bonkers> stefg: :P no problem
[11:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> well, it seems libc6-dev wants linux-kernel-headers package
[11:20] <cryptid> healot:can i play all files in real player.?
[11:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> and i installed the linux-headers package
[11:20] <Pharaoh_Atem> so i ignored any deps for linux-kernel-headers, is that ok?
[11:20] <Healot> cryptid: i guess so
[11:21] <cryptid> healot: thku
[11:21] <Pharaoh_Atem> err. deps to linux-kernel-headers were ignored, so will the system be fine? or will it always complain about it?
[11:21] <[Big] Endian> hi, anybody know a good tutorial about ati and fglrx?
[11:21] <stefg> !ati
[11:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:22] <[Big] Endian> ah ok, thx!
[11:22] <Bonkers> hmm
[11:22] <Bonkers> i h8 configuring stuff when you dont know what your doing
[11:23] <fontp> is there an equivilant to ifconfig eth0 destroy that I can't figure out ? I want to remove all configuration information from an interface
[11:23] <Bonkers> whats kernel fame buffering ?
[11:23] <Bonkers> *fram
[11:23] <Bonkers> *frame
[11:23] <mikeo1> anyone here use lirc
[11:24] <fontp> err, not even an equi
[11:24] <fontp> v
[11:24] <mikeo1> finally got it installed with my tv xp2000 deluxe
[11:24] <mikeo1> now need to figure out the config file
[11:24] <funkmaster> fontp: can' u just delete the entries accordingly in the /etc/network/interfaces
[11:24] <usama> hi all
[11:24] <funkmaster> mikeo1: i'm trying too ;)
[11:24] <funkmaster> there r lots of howtos on the lirc page and check the mailing lists there as well..
[11:24] <usama> my system is installed with ubuntu (dapper) today i have installed kubuntu cds, how can i add kubuntu desktop to my system?
[11:25] <mikeo1> i got it installed
[11:25] <mikeo1> just not configured
[11:25] <mikeo1> all the button codes work in irw
[11:25] <mikeo1> was a pain in the ass to install too
[11:25] <fontp> funk : negative. I am using a series of dialog boxes to manipulate the interface state and address / mask
[11:25] <mikeo1> took like 4 hours
[11:25] <funkmaster> usama:  apt-get install kubuntu-desktop should do the trick
[11:25] <gavinchappell> usama: try "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <mikeo1> funkmaster you get it installed yet
[11:26] <mikeo1> http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-users/2006-January/118308.html lol there was an error with my driver
[11:26] <funkmaster> mikeo1: yeah tell me about it, i have a wintv go pci and have been trying to get the remote working for a couple month no, but no luck...
[11:26] <usama> funkmaster: lemme check it
[11:26] <stefg> it's always a good idea to look in /usr/share/doc/[packagename]  first. In fact people spent work and time to provide documentation, and you've already spent bandwith and hd-space to have it available. So why not simply use it? :-)
[11:26] <funkmaster> fontp: hm sorry dude then no idea
[11:27] <mikeo1> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30612
[11:27] <mikeo1> that got me through it
[11:27] <mikeo1> and a lot of googling for missing dependancies
[11:27] <mikeo1> and brokeness
[11:27] <funkmaster> usarma use the sudo upfront like gavinchappell said
[11:27] <usama> funkmaster: it says could not find package kubuntu-desktop
[11:29] <fontp> thanks anyhow, funkmaster
[11:29] <usama> funkmaster: no, its is still saying that no package to be installed, upgrade or removed!!
[11:30] <fontp> have you already sudo apt-get update
[11:30] <gavinchappell> usama: what apt repositories do you have? (use the "Software Properties" icon on the Administration menu to check)
[11:30] <usama> fontp: yes
[11:30] <usama> fontp: i am trying to install from kubuntu cd and i also have added this cd in synaptic
[11:30] <funkmaster> usama: if this does not work: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:31] <funkmaster> then u have missing repos
[11:32] <usama> funkmaster: i opened synaptic and click on add cd, is that enough to add kubuntu repo?
[11:32] <stefg> !easysource >double
[11:32] <funkmaster> check http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:33] <usama> funkmaster: lemme check
[11:34] <usama> funkmaster: i think i need the package kubuntu-desktop, after i install it, i will be able to install form kubuntu cd, am i right?
[11:35] <funkmaster> well the package kubuntu-desktop is what u r tring to install
[11:35] <u_noob> is there anyway that when someone using this box types in a specific url eg: www.google.com that i can control it and forward it to www.google.co.uk ?
[11:36] <usama> funkmaster: actually i wanna install the whole kde desktop
[11:36] <dutoitd> Does anyone know where I can find a driver for a Canon LBP800 Laser printer?
[11:37] <funkmaster> usama: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_KDE
[11:37] <amonkey> how can i get ubuntu to shutdown without user intervention after a proccess finishes? specifcly ffmpeg.
[11:37] <ccooke> u_noob: It's possible to do that with a transparent web proxy, but it won't work universally.
[11:37] <ccooke> u_noob: you could also do it with a DNS server, which *might*
[11:37] <u_noob> ccooke: i only need it for one user
[11:37] <cryptid> healot:i downloaded real player but itz not working.what should i do?
[11:38] <mada> j0
[11:38] <u_noob> ccooke: what transparent web proxy do you suggest?
[11:38] <Healot> can you run the real player?
[11:38] <ccooke> u_noob: There's no sane way to do it for one user.
[11:38] <Healot> ISA 2004 :)
[11:38] <dutoitd> Does anyone know where i can find a Canon LBP800 driver for ubuntu? I've googled it, but had no success..
[11:38] <u_noob> ccooke: the amount of users it affects does not matter :)
[11:39] <ccooke> u_noob: Are you experienced with systems administration? If you're not, this is going to be very very tricky
[11:40] <u_noob> ccooke: i know a bit
[11:40] <XaviusShadow> ok I'm trying to install ubuntu with loadlin, I've got the parameters set up I'm just having one problem with the root
[11:41] <XaviusShadow> should I unzip the .iso and send it to the file there?
[11:41] <snoops> having a strange issue.. I did some updates then excited out of ubuntu.. came back to it today, and well when I browse my ntfs drives now with naut it'll crash it.. browsing the ext3 is fine.. and I can browse the ntfs drives fine with terminal.. so what's up with nautilus?
[11:41] <ccooke> u_noob: well, the "cleanest" way to implement it is to build a local DNS server, configure it with zones that completely match the things you want to redirect and refer them to CNAMES.
[11:41] <cryptid> healot:no itz runing the file is named realplayer10gold.bin and itz not opening.
[11:41] <u_noob> hmm ok ccooke
[11:41] <u_noob> complex?
[11:41] <ccooke> u_noob: for instance, you'd give it a zone 'www.google.com' which simply contains "@ IN CNAME www.google.co.uk."
[11:42] <Healot> oh... it supposed to download the isntaller .bin
[11:42] <u_noob> ah ok
[11:42] <ccooke> u_noob: it's the simplest way to do what you asked
[11:42] <snoops> what's also weird is I can get to the 'first' directoy in the ntfs drives with nautilous, but when trying to go a directory deeper, it'll then crash it
[11:42] <Healot> cryptid: where did you save the file?
[11:42] <u_noob> ccooke: so just pickup a dns server from synaptic?
[11:42] <cryptid> healot:now what should i do?
[11:42] <ccooke> u_noob: pitfalls, however: 1) No complex changes - it'll be a simple "if this, then that"
[11:42] <cryptid> on the desktop
[11:42] <u_noob> yah
[11:42] <XaviusShadow> where can I find the kernal file in the iso?
[11:42] <ccooke> u_noob: 2) If google ever use, say, something.www.google.com you'll never be able to see it.
[11:43] <u_noob> ccooke:
[11:43] <u_noob> i wondered about that
[11:43] <ccooke> u_noob: the server you need is 'bind'. I'd suggest a *good* read about the subject befor eyou try this, though.
[11:43] <u_noob> i think ill leave it, its the difference between a click of a hopspot
[11:43] <u_noob> just tell my dad not to be so lazy :P
[11:43] <ccooke> u_noob: the alternative - transparent proxying - is *much* more complex, and will require perl coding.
[11:44] <u_noob> ok ty ccooke :)
[11:44] <ccooke> u_noob: it'll also require you adding firewall rules so that all web traffic goes through the proxy...
[11:44] <kristian> Frogzoo, u here?
[11:44] <XaviusShadow> Anyone know where I can find the kernal file in the ubuntu iso?
[11:44] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Look for vmlinuz I think
[11:45] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I'm trying to install using loadlin, ever had any experience with that?
[11:46] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Nope, but the kernel in a normal install is linked to /boot/vmlinuz and the initrd is /boot/initrd.img. I am not so sure about the CD though
[11:47] <hemant> trying to install xgl on dapper, was following this guide, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[11:47] <Warbo> hemant: What's up?
[11:47] <hemant> but it doesn't seem to work...i have followed it quite nicely...and i am in last part
[11:47] <DarkMageZ> hemant, xgl is in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:48] <mada> hemant: what processor architecture are you on?
[11:48] <hemant> i chose to make Xgl as the default xserver
[11:48] <mada> nvm, go there ... they know more than i
[11:48] <hemant> mada: centrino...i945
[11:48] <mada> hemant: haven't touched an intel in a while, is that the duo orthe p-m?
[11:49] <hemant> i dont think..when i log in it takes me to Xgl!! ps -e still shows Xorg as running!!
[11:49] <hemant> mada: no its normal Intel Centrino single core..processor
[11:50] <mada> hemant: hrmmm... ok
[11:50] <Warbo> hemant: When I did it I made /usr/bin/X a link to /usr/bin/Xgl and it worked OK
[11:51] <Celestianpower> When trying to print on Opera, it says "Please wait until the current print job has completed" when I try to print. Does anyone know what might be wrong and how I could fix it?
[11:51] <DarkMageZ> Warbo, please don't encourage xgl conversation in here, we don't want people getting any ideas :P
[11:51] <Healot> btw
[11:51] <kristian>  You must completely remove the packages built by the ATI installer before installing packages from this page or the official Debian fglrx packages. How do I remove them? In synaptic?
[11:52] <Healot> if you want XGL, get the latest Novell SuSE DEsktop 10.0, they finally finish that bs
[11:52] <Warbo> DarkMageZ: It's not as if the channel is flooded with help requests
[11:52] <hemant> DarkMageZ:would you mind then replying on #ubuntu-xgl!!
[11:52] <mada> Healot: its not done, but you can download pre-release ...
[11:52] <haffe> Hi, I've moved from an ati card to a nvidia, I want to install the nvidia-glxdriver. When I issue sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx I get the following error. http://pastebin.ca/75588
[11:52] <Healot> it's finished i think...
[11:52] <ALDI> Does someone know a good tutorial how to get php work with apache?
[11:52] <DarkMageZ> Warbo, yeah, but we don't want people thinking that xgl & compiz are stable either
[11:52] <Healot> wait a sec
[11:53] <Celestianpower> It does print in FireFox fine though
[11:53] <XaviusShadow> is it just me or can you actually go through a pack of cigarettes in 2 hrs when you're having comp problems.
[11:53] <Usunny> !php
[11:53] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:53] <Warbo> haffe: "sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx"
[11:53] <ALDI> thanks
[11:53] <mada> haffe: first ... thank you for using a paste bin and not spamming... second, .... nvm, what Warbo said
[11:54] <mada> flooding*
[11:54] <haffe> Warbo: Been there, done that.
[11:54] <Healot> yeah still rc3
[11:54] <Warbo> haffe: Have you purged it?
[11:54] <mada> haffe: "sudo dpkg -P xorg-driver-fglrx"
[11:55] <Celestianpower> !tell Celestianpower about Opera
[11:55] <mada> hehe ... Warbo, you my friend think just like i
[11:55] <mada> do*
[11:55] <haffe> Warbo: Yes.
[11:55] <mada> :(
[11:55] <mada> nvm ...
[11:55] <Healot> !multiarch
[11:55] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiarch
[11:55] <grphx> Hey I tried to compile something on an ssh account I have on my own box, and it said permission denied
[11:55] <haffe> Yes.
[11:55] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to direct loadlin to root=c:\mydocuements\ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386\install and it's not working
[11:55] <Warbo> haffe: Hmmm. I think I had a "diversion" thing once, and I only fixed it by screwing around with the files individually
[11:56] <NekoXP> meow
[11:56] <XaviusShadow> anyone know why it's not accepting that?
[11:56] <Warbo> woof
[11:56] <grphx> Er... not compile, but use a startup script
[11:56] <grphx> How do I tell the owner of a certain file?
[11:57] <dooglus> grphx: ls -ld <certain-file>
[11:57] <Frogzoo> aargh - suspend is driving me batshxt - this worked great in breezy
[11:57] <Warbo> grphx: Try "su username" to become user "username"
[11:57] <jimcooncat> trying to find documentation on using a kernel for AMD 32?
[11:57] <grphx> I'm not sure what username owns the file.  I think my friend downloaded it to his windows computer, edited the file and uploaded it back
[11:57] <dooglus> grphx: use "ls -ld" to find the owner of the file
[11:58] <grphx> I dunno if that would make a difference
[11:58] <Nilsy> grphx, or sudo bash and run it from there
[11:58] <Warbo> grphx: chown will change ownership, ls -l will show ownership
[11:58] <Warbo> jimcooncat: You mean the k7 image?
[11:58] <grphx> I guess this owner doesn't have execution permissions
[11:58] <grphx> -rw-r--r-- 1 ok-mud ok-mud 690 1996-03-17 15:04 startup
[11:58] <grphx> startup is the filename
[11:58] <jimcooncat> Warbo, I'm not sure which I need
[11:58] <dooglus> grphx: "ls -ld" will show you the permissions too; nobody has execute permssions on that file
[11:59] <Warbo> jimcooncat: k7 is for 32bit AMD
[11:59] <gavinchappell> jimcooncat, it's linux-k7 for AMD Athlons
[11:59] <dooglus> grphx: you would see 'x' after 'rw' if there was execute permission.
[11:59] <dooglus> grphx: you can "sh ./startup" to source it
[11:59] <grphx> So in order to RUN the startup script, I need to give ok-mud x permission?
[11:59] <Warbo> grphx: chmod u+x filename (that should make it executable)
[11:59] <jimcooncat> Good, do I just install the kernel package, or are there special procedures?
[11:59] <dooglus> grphx: just "sh ./startup"
[11:59] <grphx> Thanks.
[12:00] <dooglus> grphx: you don't need execute permissions to read a script
[12:00] <Warbo> jimcooncat: Just install the "linux-image-k7" package, then reboot and you should see a new entry in GRUB
[12:00] <jimcooncat> Warbo, that just sounds too easy! I was looking for tips in the wiki
[12:01] <jimcooncat> Updates will remember my selection?
[12:01] <haffe> Hmmm.
[12:01] <haffe> I don't want to think that I have to reinstall.
[12:01] <Hoxzer> what would be good software to run FTP server for OS FTP install?
[12:02] <NekoXP> proftpd?
[12:02] <Hoxzer> :)
[12:02] <Hoxzer> But does it allow everybody to acces files?
[12:02] <NekoXP> depends if they have access or not
[12:02] <kristian> Anyone used this page before?: http://www.stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html#overview
[12:02] <Hoxzer> Ok, how do I add user for it so that only THAT USER can read files on FTP server
[12:03] <jimcooncat> Hoxzer, I use SSH for that, but then again i use it for everything
[12:03] <NekoXP> I have a cute question. Has anyone ever tried to cut down their installed packages after an Ubuntu install, specifically oem, but found that every useless package on the system depends on the ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-minimal or x.org-drivers-all packages?
[12:03] <jimcooncat> Hoxzer, makes it easy to authenticate
[12:03] <dooglus> NekoXP: it's the other way around.  ubuntu-desktop depends on the packages, not the way you said
[12:03] <Lynoure> NekoXP: Useless packages depending on things is not a problem, them being depended on is
[12:03] <NekoXP> how can I do stuff like kill off pcmcia support, or the graphics drivers that we don't ship cards for, or powerbook button daemons, without completely trashing the box
[12:04] <Warbo> jimcooncat: OK then, go to http://www.kernel.org, get the latest source, install "build-essential" package, extract the source in /usr/src/linux, go into it with a terminal, run "sudo make xconfig" then select the modules you want to build with your new kernel, set the subarhitecture to k7, save the config and quit, then "sudo make" and "sudo make modules_install" then look in the folder "/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage" and copy t
[12:04] <NekoXP> dooglus, it says it will remove ubuntu-desktop when I want to remove bluez-pcmcia-support
[12:04] <dooglus> NekoXP: it's safe enough to get all ubuntu-desktop to be uninstalled
[12:04] <Lynoure> I'd love to remove kooka (or whatever the scanner program was...)
[12:04] <NekoXP> ubuntu-minimal, and x.org-drivers-all, I am not so sure about
[12:04] <dooglus> NekoXP: ubuntu-desktop is an empty package; all it does is depends on a bunch of stuff
[12:04] <ALDI> if I call a php file from the apache webserver the browser wants to download it. It isn't interpreted on the serverside. What do I need to do that apache interprets php files serversided?
[12:04] <jimcooncat> Thanks Warbo, but I thought I could just apt-get an official kernel made for K7
[12:04] <Karhuton> I blacklisted ipv6 for modprobe, to avoid using it by any software, but now I'm getting syslog full of modprobe warnings about blacklisted ipv6
[12:04] <usama> funkmaster: i have added repos and apt-get update, but when i try to apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it says that it will download 156MBs but i wanna download and install only kubuntu and i wanna use cd to install kde, can you guide me?
[12:05] <Warbo> jimcooncat: You can, just you said it was too easy so I made it more comlex for you :)
[12:05] <NekoXP> dooglus, how can I stop it depending on a bunch of stuff I want to install?
[12:05] <jimcooncat> Warbo, lol, I quit gentoo a while back
[12:05] <NekoXP> because if they release an update to the package it's just going to pull all the stuff I removed again
[12:05] <Lynoure> dooglus: Doesn't that cause a possible problem when eventually updating from dapper to edgy? So that then one misses the new things added to that metapackage?
[12:05] <dooglus> NekoXP: you can't stop ubuntu-desktop depending of stuff, but you can uninstall ubuntu-desktop, then you don't care what it depends upon
[12:05] <NekoXP> I haven't used apt in an aeon
[12:05] <NekoXP> mff
[12:06] <NekoXP> isn't there a "don't install these packages" file?
[12:06] <dooglus> Lynoure: yes.  ubuntu-desktop will depend on different things in dapper than in breezy, so it's a good idea to have ubuntu-desktop installed when you upgrade
[12:06] <Warbo> jimcooncat: lol. The GRUB entry is usually added to the top of the menu (the default entry) and the generic linux-image-k7 package always depends on the latest packaged k7 kernel, so it will update during an upgrade
[12:06] <Lynoure> dooglus: That's what I thought, too.
[12:06] <jimcooncat> Warbo, that's the good news I was lookin for, thanks
[12:07] <usama> when i apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, it says that it will download 156MBs from internet but i wanna use my kubuntu cd to install kde, can anyone guide me?
[12:07] <dooglus> NekoXP: once you've uninstalled pcmcia-utils, it won't be reinstalled
[12:07] <john_66251> Hi! I am running a stand alone personal ubuntu system - When I type SU which I believe puts me in root mode it wants a password..... What is the default password??? Does anyone know?????
[12:07] <NekoXP> pcmcia-utils wants to get rid of a bunch of things too though, some of which I kind of still want
[12:07] <rixxon> john_66251: your users password
[12:08] <rixxon> !root > john_66251
[12:08] <dooglus> usama: I imagine you need to add something like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 6.06 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted to your /etc/apt/sources.list, only the kubuntu version.
[12:08] <john_66251> thanx rixxon!!!
[12:08] <rixxon> you're welcome
[12:08] <usama> dooglus: i have this
[12:08] <jimcooncat> we should have ubotu spit out root whenever someone new joins
[12:08] <dooglus> usama: you have the alternate disk, right?  not the live one?
[12:09] <usama> dooglus: i have the live disk of kubuntu
[12:09] <dooglus> NekoXP: these things that you want to keep must need pcmcia-utils then.
[12:09] <dooglus> usama: I don't think the live disks have usable repositories on them.
[12:10] <ALDI> if I call a php file from the apache webserver the browser wants to download it. It isn't interpreted on the serverside. What do I need to do that apache interprets php files serversided?
[12:10] <usama> dooglus: how can i get the alternative disk?
[12:10] <Warbo> jimcooncat: There is the FAQ link given, but I haven't checked that for info on (mis)using root
[12:10] <john_66251> Rixxon - Authentication failure - I am trying to load a new package but it tells me I don't have permission to create a directory - Do I just need to be in root or ????
[12:10] <dooglus> usama: it's right next to the live disk - where did you get the live disk?
[12:11] <lightstar> ALDI, hav u set up the php module?
[12:11] <dooglus> john_66251: yes.  "sudo dpkg ..." or "sudo apt-get ..."
[12:11] <jimcooncat> I for one love my sudo
[12:11] <ALDI> john: try adding "sudo" first
[12:11] <lightstar> ALDI, what abt AddType in httpd.conf
[12:11] <usama> dooglus: through shipit, as i am on dialup
[12:11] <john_66251> thanks all - will try now!!!
[12:11] <ALDI> I just have a single line in httpd.conf and that is commented out :(
[12:11] <rixxon> john_66251: sudo apt-get install foopack
[12:11] <kristian> someone help me with my graphic card?
[12:11] <ALDI> lighstar: how do i set it up?
[12:12] <Warbo> jimcooncat: Yeah, but it doesn't work in a chrooted E-GNOME session running in the host's X (yes, I am weird)
[12:12] <dooglus> usama: I last used shipit for breezy.  they shipped 2 CDs in a cardboard gatefold cover - live + install.  are they only shipping the live CD now?
[12:12] <nauj28> hi
[12:12] <dooglus> hi nauj28
[12:12] <lightstar> ALDI, sudo apt-get install php5
[12:12] <lightstar> !php
[12:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[12:12] <ALDI> lightstar: Ah, you mean that, sure I've done that
[12:13] <DarkMageZ> dooglus, yeah, they are only shipping 1 cd for dapper, but the "livecd" is also now an installer
[12:13] <ALDI> lighstar: I followed that howto
[12:13] <jimcooncat> hmm, sounds like the emacs freak I worked with
[12:13] <lightstar> ALDI, AddType option still don't work?
[12:13] <dooglus> DarkMageZ: kind of :)  the old installer on the alternate disk is more reliable,isn't it?
[12:13] <usama> dooglus: now they are shiping a single cd both for install and live
[12:13] <foxiness> i  have an iso file on windows Desktop ubuntu-dvd and am use both OS some time here and other time there,my q its safe to use bittorrent form linux to write to this file from linux?
[12:13] <mada> dooglus: not really, it just lets you install on older machines
[12:14] <DarkMageZ> dooglus, exactly
[12:14] <mada> foxiness: whoa ... what?
[12:14] <mada> foxiness: i don't entirely understand the question
[12:14] <Warbo> foxiness: Windows XP uses the NTFS filesystem, which is not safe to write to in Linux
[12:14] <ALDI> lightstar:  there is only one outcommentated line at /etc/apache2/conf/httpd.conf
[12:14] <foxiness> Warbo, here its fat32
[12:14] <Warbo> mada: (I had to read it three times :))
[12:14] <dooglus> mada: up until a week or so before release the live cd's installer was regularly trashing NTFS partitions.  I wouldn't trust it very far at the moment.
[12:15] <Warbo> foxiness: It should be OK then
[12:15] <mada> Warbo: rgr
[12:15] <lightstar> ALDI, what is the line?
[12:15] <ALDI> lightstar: #LoadModule mod_placeholder /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_placeholder.so
[12:15] <mada> dooglus: well, i have been a linux only user for roughly 5 years ... NTFS is not of my concern and i would trash it manually if the installer hadn't done so ... thus, it does me a favor
[12:15] <foxiness> mada, its safe to write form linux to fat32 partition "this is the shourt ver"
[12:15] <meshyf> hola's. Can anyone tell me how to allow acess to my other harddrives that are NTFS for the admin?
[12:15] <DarkMageZ> dooglus, the alternative is more reliable, but they didn't think it was bad enough to warrant a second cd
[12:16] <mada> foxiness: yes, it is safe to write to a fat32
[12:16] <foxiness> mada, this to partition hold windows xp
[12:16] <dooglus> mada: I don't think it was particular an NTFS issue - more of an "accidentally overwriting partitions it was told not to" kind of a bug.  It's just that for most people "existing partition" means "NTFS partition"
[12:16] <Warbo> foxiness: Fat32 is perfectly safe in Linux (well, I mean it won't corrupt anything. However, since you have write access you could be stupid and delete some Windows system files :))
[12:16] <lightstar> ALDI, not that.
[12:17] <mada> foxiness: yeah, you can install winXP on fat32 ... but what you should do is give your winXP some space for install, then do a fat32 for data and then another partition for linux (well 2 atleast, / and swap)
[12:17] <ALDI> lightstar: where can i found the "real" httpd.conf?
[12:17] <mada> foxiness: give your winXP some ntfs space*
[12:17] <foxiness> Warbo, if this come from me no problem :) but i hate to come from the my foxy ;)
[12:18] <lightstar> ALDI, edit /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[12:18] <lightstar> ALDI, what do u see there?
[12:18] <mada> dooglus: fair enough ... i only ever used the live disk for full installs so i hadn't noticed the problem, but i can see how it could prove to be one
[12:18] <Warbo> foxiness: Erm, sorry I could not understand that :(
[12:18] <ezodrevo> hi there
[12:18] <Warbo> yo
[12:18] <mada> hello ezodrevo
[12:19] <ALDI> lightstar: there ist no php5.conf under /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ :-(
[12:19] <ezodrevo> i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.06 the thing is this cd boots me into a gui
[12:19] <foxiness> Warbo, thanks a lot "that what it mean "
[12:19] <ezodrevo> im wondering if there's way for a text based install...
[12:19] <Warbo> foxiness: no problem :)
[12:19] <john_66251> Sorry - I am a rank beginner here - I need to copy files - I could cut and paste but I don't have permissions.... How can I get permissions???? I own it!!! How dare it lock me out!!!!
[12:19] <ezodrevo> as my system is halting through the installation under gui
[12:19] <Warbo> ezodrevo: alternate CD
[12:19] <foxiness> mada, thanks for your help man :)
[12:19] <gavinchappell> ezodrevo, for a text based install I think you need the alternative CD, not the desktop CD
[12:19] <lightstar> ALDI, what php did you install btw?
[12:19] <mada> foxiness: anytime :)
[12:19] <jrib> ALDI, lightstar: don't want to interrupt, but have you tried 'a2enmod php'
[12:20] <meshyf> How do I set folder permissions for other another hard drive on my computer?
[12:20] <mada> john_66251: you on a multi user machine?
[12:20] <Warbo> How much room does the text installr actually take up? Surely it could be included as a boot option?
[12:20] <ALDI> lightstar: sudo aptitude install php5
[12:20] <jrib> ALDI, lightstar: or a2enmod php5 maybe
[12:20] <foxiness> now i will start download the bittorrnet from the both OS :)
[12:20] <ezodrevo> gavinchappell: what about the root password for this cd? have any idea? cos i already did an install but i was never asked for the root, but seems like it has already set it up
[12:20] <ALDI> jrib: no, what is it?
[12:20] <jimcooncat> curious why numlockx isn't installed by default
[12:20] <XaviusShadow> alright I'm having a problem... anyone wanna help out?
[12:20] <mada> foxiness: good stuff
[12:20] <Warbo> !helpme
[12:20] <lightstar> jrib, ALDI,  no worries...i hav experience in setting up php+apache just not with apache in ubuntu..the config files are confusing
[12:20] <mada> XaviusShadow: post problem and i will see what i can do
[12:20] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:20] <gavinchappell> ezodrevo: Ubuntu doesn't use the root account, it has a randomly generated password IIRC. you should use sudo from your normal account to perform root tasks
[12:20] <jrib> ALDI: it's the command to enable php in apache, if it is an available mod
[12:20] <john_66251> MADA - thanks for coming to my aid!!!    no - single user but the modem is connected via ethernet ....
[12:21] <lightstar> ALDI, is there any folder called mods- in /etc/apache2
[12:21] <XaviusShadow> this is the command I have to use to install ubuntu with loadlin... it just doesn't seem to want to work loadlin linux initrd=initrd.gz vga=normal ramdisk_size=14972 root=/dev/rd/0
[12:21] <ezodrevo> gavinchappell: oh ok kewl.
[12:21] <ezodrevo> thanks
[12:21] <mada> john_66251: ok .....wait, what does a modem have to do with copy and pasting file and how is a modem on ethernet?
[12:21] <ALDI> lightstar, yes, mods-available and mods-enabled
[12:22] <XaviusShadow> mada: Cable modem is on ethernet.
[12:22] <lightstar> ALDI, what do you see in mods-available?
[12:22] <meshyf> How do I set permissions?
[12:22] <mada> XaviusShadow: ah ... makes sense
[12:22] <ezodrevo> i'll try it out and be back. cheers by the way to all the developers out there... from the looks and the feel its way better than all my fav. distros combined :)
[12:22] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Does loadlin support gz? I know Linux has zlib transparently installed, but that is all I know
[12:22] <lightstar> ALDI, did you try jrib's method?
[12:22] <mada> meshyf: "man chmod"
[12:22] <jrib> !permissions > meshyf
[12:22] <meshyf> Thanks guys
[12:22] <mada> !permissions
[12:22] <foxiness> ezodrevo, sound nice to me :)
[12:22] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[12:22] <john_66251> Single user machine - sorry - it just might think it is on a network cos the modem to the net is hanging off the ethernet cable
[12:22] <mada> :P
[12:22] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Well that's the command coming from the Wikii site, here's the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromWindows
[12:22] <ALDI> sudo aenmod php5 results in sudo: aenmod: command not found
[12:23] <jrib> ALDI: sudo a2enmod php5
[12:23] <schmakk> jrib, thanks for the help the other day, im now on a shiny 6.06 ubuntu, without problems
[12:23] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Well I would have no way of testing it, sorry
[12:23] <jrib> schmakk: great
[12:23] <mada> john_66251: ok, so you tried to copy files from where to where?
[12:23] <lightstar> ALDI, ahh..you left out the 2 in a2enmod
[12:23] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: There's no way I'm ever gonna get ubuntu installed...
[12:23] <ALDI> jrib, sorry.. now the result is "Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable."
[12:23] <mada> XaviusShadow: why not?
[12:23] <lightstar> ALDI, ok try restarting
[12:24] <john_66251> from one directory to another - from desktop to user/local/ newname
[12:24] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: A bit extreme, but maybe use your real HD and CDROM in Qemu?
[12:24] <XaviusShadow> Mada: I've been trying, my comp is being a buttspasm and don't want to boot from cd, so I can't get it installed
[12:24] <lightstar> ALDI, if after restarting it stil can't work try editing the php5.conf in mods-available (it should b there)
[12:24] <mada> john_66251: is user a directory you made in your home folder?
[12:25] <Daniel0> hey, i installed kde by following this guide: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper#How_to_install_KDE - but now when i boot up the kubuntu logo is shown, is there any way to get the ubuntu logo back?
[12:25] <ALDI> Restarted, still wants to download the php file
[12:25] <john_66251> usr - not user - sorry ...
[12:25] <mada> XaviusShadow: there is technically a work around for that, but its uber pain the ass
[12:25] <jrib> ALDI: clear your browser's cache
[12:25] <meshyf> Ok total noob here. Where do I type in "!permissions > meshyf" at?
[12:25] <XaviusShadow> mada: I'm up for anything... I just need to get away from this dungeon called windows '98
[12:25] <ALDI> lighstar, yes there is a php5.conf
[12:25] <Terminus> Daniel0: you mean the bootsplash logo?
[12:25] <Daniel0> Terminus: yeah
[12:25] <jrib> meshyf: no where, you should have received a private message from ubotu
[12:26] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Is your HD already partitioned/windows shrunk?
[12:26] <ALDI> jrib: cleared cache, still wants to download php file :(
[12:26] <mada> XaviusShadow: google it, i've only done it once and i did it from a tutorial found off google
[12:26] <lightstar> ALDI, does it work now?
[12:26] <meshyf> Oh ok thanks lol
[12:26] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I'm putting ubuntu on a different HD
[12:26] <ALDI> lighstar, no, doesn't work :(
[12:26] <Daniel0> Terminus: would running 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' get it back?
[12:27] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Ah. www.qemu.org install that in 98 and boot it up with the HD you want to use and the ISO as a CDROM
[12:27] <lightstar> ALDI, ok..switch to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled folder
[12:27] <lightstar> ALDI, what do u see?
[12:27] <Terminus> Daniel0: sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so and then sudo update-initramfs -u `uname -r`
[12:27] <ALDI> lightstar: links to the following dirs: cgi.load userdir.conf and userdir.load
[12:28] <lightstar> ALDI, all symlinks rite?
[12:28] <ALDI> yes
[12:28] <Daniel0> ok thanks Terminus
[12:28] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: What should I download?
[12:28] <Terminus> Daniel0: np. :)
[12:28] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Get the Windows port of QEmu
[12:28] <john_66251> mada - I tried to paste a file that I downloaded to the desktop to the usr/local directory ...... but the Paste isn't highlighted - It won't let me paste to that directory without permission ...
[12:28] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Maybe you can find it on oszoo.org
[12:29] <Daniel0> i also got another question. when loggin in i get a message saying that $HOME/.dmrc is being ignored and should be owned by me and have permission 664 and that users home directory should be owned by me and not be writable by anyone else. how do i fix that?
[12:29] <mmilo> howdy snoop
[12:29] <mada> john_66251: ahhhh ok ... yeah, you don't have default permissions to that directory
[12:29] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Found it, should I just go with the newest version?
[12:29] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Yes
[12:29] <john_66251> That's it!!!!!!!!!
[12:29] <mada> john_66251: what is the file you want to paste in /usr/local?
[12:30] <concept10> Has anyone switched over to Init-ng?
[12:30] <mada> john_66251: what is the file name? and what folder is it in right now?
[12:31] <mmilo> howdy snoops
[12:31] <hastesaver> concept10, I was using initng for a while on Breezy before I formatted my disk and installed Dapper. Why?
[12:31] <OPENports>  help: how do i change the color of the font in konsole?\\ does anyone know, thank u very much
[12:32] <concept10> hastesaver, does it work as advertised?
[12:32] <mormoloc> what video player opens/reads .wmv files? (already tried vlc and mplayer)
[12:32] <OPENports> is anyone awake?
[12:32] <jrib> mormoloc: mplayer after installing w32codecs should work
[12:33] <XaviusShadow> OPENports: I think your question was answered before you asked it.
[12:33] <mormoloc> jrib: how do I install w32codecs?
[12:33] <jrib> !w32codecs > mormoloc
[12:33] <mada> jrib: that bot saves alot of time, yes?
[12:34] <jrib> mada: yep
[12:34] <jrib> OPENports: settings > schema, and schemas can be configured in settings > configure konsole
[12:35] <mmilo> I was wondering if there was a shortcut for switching between workspaces
[12:35] <john_66251> now what???
[12:35] <Most_Wanted> there is mmilo
[12:35] <jrib> mmilo: ctrl-alt-<arrow key> or you can set your own in system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[12:35] <gavinchappell> mmilo: Control-Alt-Left/Right arrow can change Gnome workspaces
[12:35] <Warbo> mmilo: ctrl-alt-left and right
[12:36] <mmilo> awesome thanks guys
[12:36] <Warbo> Does that work with up and down?
[12:36] <OPENports> jrib:thanks for your help bro!!!1
[12:36] <jrib> OPENports: np
[12:36] <gavinchappell> I don't know Warbo, I only have 4 workspaces arranged in a lin
[12:36] <gavinchappell> e
[12:36] <Warbo> Ok, just that I am not in GNOME at the moment
[12:36] <gavinchappell> yes, it does
[12:36] <gavinchappell> I've just changed to a 2x2 square
[12:36] <gavinchappell> and yeah, up and down also work
[12:36] <Warbo> gavinchappell: OK thanks
[12:36] <john_66251> ~Desktop/Accounting/sql-ledger/setup.pl to usr/local/ledger
[12:37] <jrib> ALDI: any progress?
[12:37] <killaz> hi ubuntu!
[12:37] <Warbo> gavinchappell: I guess there is no way of making a 3x4 layout fit on a cube? :)
[12:37] <jrib> killaz: hi, welcome!
[12:37] <dooglus> gavinchappell: the password isn't randomly generated, it's locked.  there's no valid password for root by default.
[12:37] <killaz> I'm fine
[12:38] <hastesaver_> concept10, sorry, got disconnected. Yes, it does work as advertised (bootup speeds up a LOT), but it also had a lot of minor bugs
[12:38] <john_66251> mada - how do I get default permissions to that directory????
[12:38] <mmilo> google talk uses the jabber protocol is that correct?
[12:38] <killaz> how can I play quicktime in my browser?
[12:38] <hastesaver_> mmilo, correct
[12:38] <martii> mmilo: yest
[12:38] <martii> mmilo: yes
[12:38] <killaz> or is that one of the restrictedformat which is not supported?
[12:38] <dooglus> mmilo: correct.  although it doesn't support multiple user chats
[12:38] <Warbo> killaz: Install the relevant plugin package for your movie player (totem, mplayer, vlc, etc.)
[12:38] <mmilo> and what protocol does the .mac thing use?
[12:38] <mmilo> is that also jabber?
[12:38] <concept10> hastesaver, thanks, im going to install it based on your recommendation. heh.
[12:38] <martii> mmilo: I don't think so
[12:39] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: How do I use Qemu?
[12:39] <killaz> Warbo, lemme check if that exist in synaptic
[12:39] <martii> mmilo: google is only one using opensource stuff
[12:39] <hastesaver_> concept10, but be warned. One of the ttys became unusable... but most people don't use the ttys anyway, I guess :)
[12:39] <mmilo> so there's no way to add someone on a .mac account unless you too have a .mac account
[12:39] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I am not sure of the Windows synatax, I assume it is \ instead of -, but you put hda as your drive to install to and cdrom as your ISO (it has to be run from command line)
[12:40] <killaz> Warbo libquicktime?
[12:40] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Ummm... Ya lost me
[12:40] <Warbo> killaz: Install the package link mozilla-plugin-mplayer or something
[12:40] <Gonzo> is there a tool to extract everyone from an html address that will loop through all the links?
[12:40] <jrib> Gonzo: wget
[12:41] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: You need to run it from a CLI, give it as options hda as your hard drive that you want Ubuntu on and the CDROM as the ISO you have
[12:41] <mmilo> ok next question
[12:41] <Gonzo> wget will recursively search through the links?
[12:41] <mmilo> how do i go about setting up ruby and rails on dapper?
[12:41] <Eons> hi
[12:41] <jrib> Gonzo: with the --recursive switch it will
[12:41] <mmilo> is it pretty much the same thing as breezy or are there differences?
[12:41] <Gonzo> ok cool thx
[12:41] <Eons> could someone please send me a good-n-valid sudoers file?
[12:41] <Hoxzer> ;I is there some distro that acutally installs via SSH share?
[12:42] <martii> mmilo: ichat looks like supporting jabber
[12:42] <Eons> edgy just broke mine
[12:42] <martii> mmilo: but I'm not sure it's jabber compatibile
[12:42] <mmilo> cool martii thanks for that
[12:42] <mmilo> I will look into it
[12:42] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I keep trying to put Qemu.exe into the command line and it's doing nothing
[12:42] <john_66251> can anyone tell me the syntax to copy a program from one directory to another PLZ???
[12:43] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: it won't run unless you give it soemthing to run, in other words give it a hda and a cdrom
[12:43] <Warbo> john_66251: cp programname foldertoputitin
[12:43] <john_66251> thanks warbo ....
[12:44] <Eons> could someone please send me a valid /etc/sudoers file? mine is borked
[12:44] <jrib> Eons: sure, one sec
[12:44] <Eons> jrib: thanks
[12:44] <jrib> Eons: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021
[12:45] <Eons> thank you; let's hope it's the file and not edgy fault..
[12:45] <Eons> yep, it's edgy =)
[12:46] <Eons> syntax error... mah
[12:46] <killaz> Warbo I installed mozilla-mplayer but that didnt help...
[12:46] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I just found this, it may help http://perso.wanadoo.es/comike/files/QGui-v1.0.zip
[12:48] <Warbo> killaz: I know some sites block non-IE browsers from their QT streams
[12:49] <mada> bleh ... 6am, time for bed
[12:49] <mada> see you buntus lata!
[12:49] <meshyf> :\ having a really hard time setting those permissions..
[12:50] <killaz> Warbo, nah this is a e-card I got from someone.... lemme check QT using it on the QT official sote
[12:51] <meshyf> brb updating to dapper
[12:51] <truzak> hello, how do check/change screen color depth?
[12:51] <Warbo> Hmm... "be right back"? I'll believe it when I see it
[12:51] <Warbo> truzak: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:52] <BCK14> does anyone know a good site for inkscape tutorials
[12:53] <truzak> Warbo: does that mean sth is broken on my xserver configuration?
[12:53] <NET||abuse> anyone know a good supplier of linux compatable cb wifi chipsets
[12:54] <john_66251> If something is in a Desktop directory in Home - how do I write the address to copy it???
[12:54] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Now, how do I set the gui to install the file on my secondary drive?
[12:54] <bimberi> john_66251: ~/Desktop/file
[12:54] <cydrive> can someone help me upgrade my flashplayer to get google video to work
[12:54] <john_66251> thanks - trying now ... must have stuffed it ...
[12:56] <dooglus> what's the program that sets up the proxy server host and port called?
[12:57] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: You need to give Qemu a hard drive file. You should actually give it your real hard drive (on linux it is just a matter of "sudo qemu -hda /dev/hdb -cdrom image.iso -boot d")
[12:58] <Warbo> cydrive: Does Google Video come up at all? Is it a sound problem?
[12:59] <john_66251> I type      Sudo cp ~john/Desktop/Accounting/sql-ledger/setup.pl  /usr/local/sql-ledger
[12:59] <john_66251>         and it tells me        bash: Sudo: command not found
[12:59] <john_66251>     HELP!!!
[12:59] <cydrive> no it just says i need to install a plugin then i click it and it says cannot find so i try and do manual but it just leads me bac to the page i was on
[12:59] <jrib> john_66251: all lowercase: sudo
[12:59] <Warbo> sudo is lowercase (Linux is case sensititve)
[12:59] <mmilo> anyone know anything about ruby or rails?
[12:59] <john_66251> thank jrib ....... How do I get default permissions to cut and paste files????
[12:59] <Warbo> cydrive: You need the flashplugin-nonfree (I think it is called) package from Multiverse
[01:00] <cydrive> ok
[01:00] <jrib> john_66251: not really sure what you mean
[01:00] <concept10> mman, what do you want to do with rails?
[01:00] <Warbo> john_66251: "cut and paste" would be done by moving files in a terminal (mv instead of cp)
[01:00] <Warbo> !multiverse
[01:00] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:00] <john_66251> when I try to just cut and paste the file it tells me I don't have default permissions so the "Paste" doesn't highlight ....
[01:01] <mmilo> concept10: i wanna install it
[01:01] <monomaniacpat> !easysource
[01:01] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:01] <jrib> john_66251: you mean in nautilus?
[01:01] <john_66251> yes .... I think!!!!!!
[01:02] <concept10> mmilo, its easy, look at the documentation, use ruby 1.8.4, latest ruby gems and DO NOT use the rails packages in the repositories (i.e. apt-get rails)
[01:02] <mmilo> concept10: i made sure i have access to universe packages, and i ran apt-get install ruby rdoc irb ri
[01:03] <mmilo> but it doesnt give me access to the the ruby command
[01:03] <nitche> when i try to do a sudo install (package)
[01:03] <john_66251> jrib   -  in knome - on my desktop .....
[01:03] <nitche> i am getting this error
[01:03] <concept10> mmilo, sudo apt-get install ruby1.8 ruby1.8-dev libruby1.8 libreadline-1.8 irb1.8
[01:03] <jrib> john_66251: you can run 'gksudo nautilus' but be _very careful_, you can easily mess up your system by doing the wrong thing.  There really isn't much reason to change things outside of your $HOME
[01:03] <nitche> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:03] <animax> Hi. I'm getting a problme in Ubuntu Dapper. As soon as the login screen appears the screen goes blank. ANy help?
[01:03] <john_66251> ok - will try again
[01:04] <Warbo> nitche: Then do what it says
[01:04] <nitche> Warbo: thats the weirdest theing... when i do dpkg --configure -a
[01:04] <nitche> it says its an invalid command
[01:04] <nitche> :S
[01:04] <mmilo> ok said it couldnt find package libreadline-1.8
[01:04] <Warbo> nitche: sudo it (/sbin is not in $PATH for non-super users)
[01:05] <nitche> Warbo: sudo already pal
[01:05] <cntb> anybody tried krusader aGUI version of MC midnight commander for file management -(screen split in two )
[01:05] <concept10> mmilo, make sure you call my nick, i might miss you.. do you have all repositories enabled?
[01:05] <monomaniacpat> can someone remind me where sources.list is?
[01:05] <Warbo> nitche: Then run "/usr/sbin/dpkg --configure -a"
[01:05] <animax> Hi. I'm getting a problem in Ubuntu Dapper. As soon as the login screen appears the screen goes blank. Any help
[01:05] <cntb>  /etc/apt
[01:06] <nitche> Warbo: hmm oki i'll try that
[01:06] <monomaniacpat> cntb: thanks mate
[01:07] <monomaniacpat> How do I change the default app for DVDs and CDs?
[01:07] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Preferences>Removable Drives And Media
[01:07] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I used the gui and put the exact command it said and nothing happened
[01:08] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Hm? Try looking around on Google, I have never used Qemu in Windows (but I know that it owkrs)
[01:08] <Warbo> works
[01:09] <nitche> Warbo: well this is crazy :) there is not file called dpkg in the /usr/sbin/dpkg
[01:09] <nitche> there are 4 other files... related to dpkg but... :s
[01:09] <Warbo> nitche: My bad, it is in /usr/bin
[01:09] <Warbo> :)
[01:09] <nitche> lol ok
[01:10] <john_66251> when I run an install program I get a list of Permission Denied .... and can't install... How do I get permissions to copy files from one place to another???? This is a stand alone system ....
[01:10] <Warbo> john_66251: run it with sudo
[01:10] <revilo> i've reinstalled wine many times (trying to get different apps working, purging config files etc..) and now when i install a program it doesn't appear in the K menu (Kubuntu Dapper), anyone know how i can fix this?
[01:10] <\\Roscoe\> john_66251: Depends on where it is going from and where it is going.
[01:11] <nitche> Warbo: :) works and its alive... haha. I used to think debian was a dump. cos all these years i spent on redhat... anyway now gonna learn this deb style :) thanks man
[01:11] <nitche> catchya around...
[01:11] <monomaniacpat> Warbo: what command should I enter for CD's to be played in amarok? I entered just "amarok -d %d" and the amarok splash came up but didn't start the prog properly - ?
[01:11] <Glimmerati> can anyone help me with wma and wmv?
[01:12] <apokryphos> Glimmerati: have you read the FAQ?
[01:12] <animax> can anyone help with an ubuntu bootup problem??
[01:12] <apokryphos> !anyone
[01:12] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:12] <Glimmerati> yeah....
[01:12] <Warbo> nitche: You should never really need to touch dpkg itself, Apt deals with that (unless it gets interrupted like you found)
[01:12] <john_66251> Warbo - I used sudo for the first command but I would then need to put sudo in front of each successive command but they are in the executed file
[01:12] <apokryphos> Glimmerati: then you would know how to play both of those formats.
[01:12] <Warbo> john_66251: "sudo -s -H" then run it
[01:13] <john_66251> what is the command to run it then???
[01:13] <jrib> john_66251: what are you trying to install?
[01:13] <Warbo> john_66251: Run "sudo -s -H" then run it like normal
[01:13] <\\Roscoe\> john_66251: sudo -i to jump to root
[01:13] <john_66251> trying to run a perl script to install an accounting package
[01:14] <monomaniacpat> what command should I enter for CD's to be auto-played in amarok? I entered just "amarok -d %d" and the amarok splash came up but didn't start the prog properly - ?
[01:14] <jrib> john_66251: what is its name?
[01:14] <Glimmerati> i know abt it....but after installing w32codes/vmplayer still wma or wmv is not running
[01:14] <john_66251> install.pl
[01:14] <jrib> john_66251: of the program I mean
[01:14] <mariia> moii
[01:14] <Warbo> john_66251: Just use "sudo -s -H" or "sudo -i" then install it with "perl install.pl" like normal
[01:15] <Anarres> does the server version have a gui ?? and is there a i-net page where i can see the helpfiles ?
[01:15] <john_66251> Thanks Warbo - but there is nothing normal about this!!!!!!!! I am a newbie and never want to be a programmer - just want to install this accounting package!!!!
[01:16] <Warbo> john_66251: I am not a programmer, but I was saying that after running sudo -i or sudo -s -H then you should retry whatever else you have been told
[01:16] <john_66251> thanks
[01:17] <J_P> good morning!
[01:17] <\\Roscoe\> Good evening!
[01:17] <Anarres> i want to make a server from a old box i have here ... never worked with linux before ;)
[01:17] <Warbo> Good afternoon!
[01:17] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: You gotta see this... http://homepage.sunrise.ch/mysunrise/ekeller00/EricKellerUbuntuPage.html
[01:17] <Bassetts> is there a standalone flash player?
[01:17] <Anarres> should i install the server version or the normal one ?
[01:17] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Is that from the bottom of !vmware?
[01:18] <Anarres> i need to access the help files very often i guess =)
[01:18] <lophyte> morning all
[01:18] <jrib> john_66251: is it sql-ledger that you are trying to get to work?
[01:18] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Someone actually made a full guide in the Qemu forum on howto install Ubuntu using Qemu with windows.
[01:18] <Warbo> Bassetts: There are Free Software ones, but other than that you will need to get a Windows one from a trial version of Flash then run it in WINE
[01:18] <Warbo> !tell XaviusShadow about vmware
[01:19] <Bassetts> i have flash in FF, i just want to open a .swf
[01:19] <Bassetts> meh, ill just put it into a html
[01:19] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Check out the very bottom of it
[01:19] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: (Plus I wrote the Wiki page :))
[01:20] <J_P> good morning all!
[01:20] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Showoff :-P
[01:20] <Warbo> :)
[01:21] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Wow, I'm so programming-impared that I can't understand the idiot's guide :(
[01:22] <Warbo> You calling me an idiot? :)
[01:22] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Nope, myself
[01:22] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I cannot understand any of this... it's like a foreign language to me.
[01:23] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: That guide is for installing Ubuntu in Qemu, but you want to use Qemu as a fake computer which lets you install Ubuntu to a real system, not a fake image
[01:23] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Oh... well I still can't figure it out...
[01:24] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I will look through it to familiarise myself with the Windows way of running it
[01:24] <KenSentMe> Does anyone know why webmin isn't in dapper anymore?
[01:25] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I've been up for over 48 hrs working on Linux and spending Q/T With my fiancee and uncle who just traveled across the country to see me...
[01:25] <astoichen> i can't see the cursor on ubuntu 6.06. what is the problem?
[01:26] <Glimmerati> can any one tell how to edit in the repository?
[01:26] <dooglus> Glimmerati: regedit.exe ?
[01:26] <dooglus> Glimmerati: although I think you might have the wrong channel
[01:26] <dooglus> Glimmerati: aah.  I'm an idiot.
[01:27] <Glimmerati> i want to change/upgrade my repository
[01:27] <dooglus> Glimmerati: what kind of a repository?  a repository of apt packages?
[01:27] <b453st4r> how do i reinstall grub
[01:27] <Glimmerati> yeah....apt packeges
[01:27] <ikabot> Hi. Quick question if I may. I want to play DVDs on Ubuntu. What's the best package to download for this purpose?
[01:27] <cntb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16828
[01:27] <jeff_banks> from cd
[01:27] <apokryphos> ikabot: check the FAQ
[01:28] <cntb> lookin 4 numlockx to get numlock on boot http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16828
[01:28] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Well if it helps at all you can forget about the accelerator bit because you don;t need it
[01:28] <apokryphos> !numlock
[01:28] <ubotu> To enable Number Lock by default, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NumLock
[01:28] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Eh?
[01:28] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Qemu has an accelerator which is tricky to install, but you don;t need it
[01:28] <jeff_banks> !grub
[01:28] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[01:28] <Sub> ikabot, VLC with the CSS package, youll need to enable DMA too,
[01:28] <cntb> apokryphos: that fast fast 10x
[01:28] <jeff_banks> cheers
[01:28] <dooglus> Glimmerati: the repository list is in /etc/apt/sources.list.  you can edit it by running "gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal
[01:29] <dooglus> Glimmerati: if it asks for a password, give your own user password
[01:29] <ikabot> Thanks Sub, apokryphos.
[01:29] <hollywoodstar> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel ?
[01:29] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Sweetness, now to figure out what I want to do, I'll make it simple and tell you, my drive ubuntu is going on is D: the iso is in C:\My Docuements
[01:29] <Eons> dooglus: i thought it was gksudo, not gksu
[01:29] <Warbo> linux headers are in /lib/modules/kernelversion/build
[01:29] <lignum> hey
[01:29] <lignum> how is it going?
[01:29] <AlexC> Hey
[01:29] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Do you have a GUI working?
[01:29] <AlexC> How do I unzip .gz files?
[01:29] <apokryphos> Eons: in Ubuntu I believe there's just a symlink to the other one, so they're the same.
[01:29] <hollywoodstar> Warbo ty. I'mma try it
[01:30] <dooglus> Eons: whatever :)
[01:30] <Eons> dooglus: yeah =P
[01:30] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: The Qemu GUI?
[01:30] <apokryphos> !gz
[01:30] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with file-roller (gnome) or ark (kde)
[01:30] <cntb>  Install numlockx using Synaptic or apt-get
[01:30] <AlexC> apokryphos, via terminal
[01:30] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I have Windows '98 working
[01:30] <astoichen> am i the only one who have problem with that cursor?
[01:30] <apokryphos> AlexC: gunzip
[01:30] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I mean do you have any GUI for Qemu working?
[01:30] <lignum> hehe... maybe
[01:30] <cntb> apokryphos:  pasted failed numlockx install
[01:31] <AlexC> apokryphos, thanks
[01:31] <cntb>  Install numlockx using Synaptic or apt-get
[01:31] <dooglus> Eons: "/usr/bin/gksudo -> gksu" - they're the same thing :)
[01:31] <apokryphos> cntb: what?
[01:31] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Yeah I can use the Qemu GUI, I'll open it on the comp that it's going on now
[01:31] <cntb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16828
[01:31] <Eons> dooglus: uhm, like kde - they edited gksu to use sudo
[01:31] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: It's up.
[01:31] <cntb> apokryphos: see that ?
[01:32] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: There should be a hard drive option, give it D:. There should also be a CDROM option, give it the ISO, then tell it to boot from "D" (as in, the default CDROM)
[01:32] <J_P> hey all, why scp jp@192.168.0.2:/etc/init<TAB> doesn't work ? Why TAB not work (not autocomplete) ? I test in sarge this example and works! Anyone configuration ? What can be ?
[01:32] <PlHL> Hi! My laptop with Ubuntu has severe troubles recognizing USB drives. Is it a NTFS problem Ubuntu have, or can it be something else?
[01:32] <Glimmerati> dooglus one more help......what i have to change or to do for gstream 10?
[01:32] <apokryphos> !info numlockx
[01:32] <ubotu> numlockx: enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 10 kB, installed size 88 kB
[01:32] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: It doesn't have a Hard Drive option, just virtual drive
[01:33] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: That's what I mean
[01:33] <apokryphos> cntb: enable the Universe repository. Check the FAQ>
[01:33] <Eons> J_P: maybe bash_completion doesn't implement this completion
[01:33] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I know Windows doesn't use a file for the drive like Linux does, so it might be hard to set up
[01:33] <cntb> ok apokryphos
[01:33] <meshyf> Heya Everyone. Can anyone help me set permissions? X: I've updated ubuntu all the way and am having a hard time using just about anything
[01:33] <cntb> got that Universe REpo
[01:33] <J_P> Eons: what can I do for works taht, becouse I use many time that..
[01:33] <apokryphos> cntb: sorry?
[01:33] <J_P> Eons: But autocomplete works if I'm not use scp..
[01:33] <Eons> J_P: sorry, i've no idea where to start
[01:34] <Eons> J_P: yes, but the bash_completion ubuntu uses
[01:34] <charlieblue> hi
[01:34] <cntb> I must enable Universe Repository . Shortest path pls ?
[01:34] <J_P> Eons: simple ls /etc/init(TAB) works
[01:34] <Eons> may not have that kind of completion
[01:34] <meshyf> Can somebody help me set my permissions?
[01:34] <apokryphos> cntb: that's correct. Check the FAQ
[01:34] <cntb> !universe repo
[01:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about universe repo
[01:34] <Eons> J_P: scp is rather different than ls
[01:34] <apokryphos> cntb: FAQ
[01:34] <meshyf> !permissions
[01:34] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:35] <Eons> scp works remote
[01:35] <charlieblue> meshyf: permissions for what?
[01:35] <meshyf> !charlieblue for my other harddrives.
[01:35] <apokryphos> !faq
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about charlieblue for my other harddrives.
[01:35] <ubotu> faq is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[01:35] <meshyf> err
[01:35] <J_P> Eons: yes, Do you know who can help me (that know very well this) or some place ?
[01:35] <meshyf> Charlieblue: For my other hard drives. It's a fresh install and I can't figure this out. I'm a total noob to Ubuntu
[01:35] <Eons> J_P: I'd try in ubuntuforums
[01:35] <cntb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions /
[01:35] <J_P> Eons: ahh ok! thanks
[01:35] <F0LL0W3R> is kopete doenst suppot invitation with other contacts from msn ?
[01:36] <cntb> that FAQ ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions ?
[01:36] <apokryphos> cntb: yes
[01:36] <Eons> J_P: no problem
[01:36] <charlieblue> meshyf: what do you want to do?
[01:36] <cntb> k goin there
[01:36] <charlieblue> meshyf: mount your second harddrive(or partition)?
[01:36] <Glimmerati> dooglus one more help......what i have to change or to do for gstream 10?
[01:36] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Second and Third hard drive actually. To listen to music etc from.
[01:37] <charlieblue> meshyf: go to System->Administration-> Disks
[01:38] <meshyf> charlieblue: kay I'm there.
[01:38] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: It's still not working
[01:39] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I told it D:, then I told it what folder the .iso was found in
[01:39] <XaviusShadow> Warbo I also told it where the bios and stuff is
[01:40] <BCK14> whats a good gui backup program?
[01:40] <meshyf> Charlieblue : Both of which are accessible.
[01:40] <PlHL> My laptop with Ubuntu has severe troubles recognizing USB drives. Is it a NTFS problem Ubuntu have, or can it be something else?
[01:41] <BCK14> whats a good gui backup program?
[01:41] <Glimmerati> ......what i have to change in repository for upgrading the gstream 10?  i have 8
[01:42] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Hmm. I have done it before in Linux, but it was a bit of a long shot on Windows (it may be doable, but D: obviously can't be used as a drive :( )
[01:43] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: This is the command it's telling me to send C:\Program Files\Qemu\qemu.exe -L "C:\Program Files\Qemu\bios" -boot c -m 32 -nics 1 -user-net -localtime
[01:44] <Glimmerati> ......what i have to change in repository for upgrading the gstream 10?  i have 8
[01:44] <bimberi> BCK14: sbackup looks ok, although i haven't used it personally
[01:44] <apokryphos> !repeat
[01:44] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:45] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: It is boot d, not boot c
[01:45] <cntb> I think I get it http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components The components are called "main", "restricted", "universe" and "multiverse".
[01:45] <Frogzoo> ok, suspend is almost working - only sticking point left is that pppoe won't come back up after a resume
[01:45] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: That command doesn't seem to include any ISO or harddrive image either
[01:46] <cntb> so universe components in universe repo
[01:46] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: That's what the GUI is telling me to send
[01:46] <Glimmerati> ......what i have to change in repository for upgrading the gstream 10?  i have 8
[01:46] <cntb> so why change initial sources.lst ?
[01:46] <lophyte> anyone know if there's a GUI frontend to qemu?
[01:46] <meshyf> How come I can't open my other hard drives?
[01:46] <lophyte> cntb: the default sources.list doesn't include universe or multiverse :)
[01:47] <cntb> should not  ?
[01:47] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Try changing boot c to boot d, and add -hda D: and -cdrom "C:\My Documnts\..............iso"
[01:47] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: (obviously use the real path)
[01:47] <lophyte> cntb: it doesn't by default.. that's why you have to edit it and enable those repos
[01:47] <BCK14> bimberi: aparently it sucks tho :(
[01:48] <apokryphos> !repeat > Glimmerati
[01:49] <lophyte> anyone know if there's a GUI frontend for qemu?
[01:49] <bimberi> BCK14: oh, kk, where's that opinion expressed?
[01:49] <Warbo> lophyte: I have found an out of date one
[01:49] <lophyte> booo out of date
[01:49] <lophyte> lol
[01:49] <SaTaN`_> hello
[01:49] <SaTaN`_> can i ask, how to aply a new theme on KDE?
[01:49] <Warbo> lophyte: It screws up the networking if you use a new version of Qemu, so it is bad :(
[01:50] <Warbo> SaTaN`_: "kcontrol"
[01:50] <mwe> does someone know how to change the font firefox is using for plain text files? the normal font settings doesn't seem to affect it.
[01:50] <lophyte> Warbo: bah.. someone needs to write a new one
[01:50] <meshyf> !chmod
[01:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmod
[01:50] <meshyf> D:
[01:50] <meshyf> !chmd
[01:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about chmd
[01:50] <meshyf> !permissions
[01:50] <Warbo> lophyte: I wrote a Bash script to select CD images and hard drives once
[01:50] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[01:51] <lophyte> qemu seems faster than vmware
[01:51] <Glimmerati> how can i run mpg files?
[01:51] <mwe> qemu was so slow for me I gave up using it
[01:51] <Warbo> lophyte: With an accelerator maybe
[01:51] <SaTaN`_> can i ask, how to apply a new theme on KDE?
[01:51] <mwe> eving using kqemu
[01:52] <mwe> SaTaN`_: did come as source code or a .deb
[01:52] <SaTaN`_> mwe, i downloaded it, it`s  .tar.bz
[01:53] <mwe> SaTaN`_: it's source then
[01:53] <meshyf> I really am dieing for some help here. I can't figure this thing out in the least bit. Trying to change permissions so I can access files on my other hard drive. Checking all documentation and it isn't making sense. I'm a total noob and it is a freash install of Dapper
[01:53] <SaTaN`_> probably yes..
[01:53] <Warbo> meshyf: What is your other HD format? (NTFS?)
[01:53] <meshyf> Warbo: Yes.
[01:53] <Warbo> meshyf: Then you cannot write to it
[01:53] <Warbo> meshyf: Can you read from it?
[01:53] <meshyf> Warbo: Says I don't have permission to.
[01:53] <mwe> SaTaN`_: you have to compile it. you'll need to install build-essential plus all the xorg headers and kdelibs-dev and qt-dev then compile it with --prefix=/usr
[01:54] <Warbo> meshyf: "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[01:54] <SaTaN`_> uff. a lot to do.. :)
[01:54] <meshyf> What is that going to do?
[01:54] <Warbo> meshyf: Open a text editor
[01:54] <charlieblue> meshyf: open a terminal and write: "sudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[01:54] <mwe> SaTaN`_: yeah. but the good thing is you only have to do it the first time
[01:54] <meshyf> Warbo : Gotcha
[01:55] <charlieblue> meshyf: there must be a line with "ntfs"
[01:55] <SaTaN`_> :)
[01:55] <Warbo> meshyf: Got it up?
[01:55] <mwe> SaTaN`_: well the compiling is needed for every theme
[01:55] <meshyf> Warbo: Yes I have the terminal up.
[01:55] <Warbo> meshyf: Put in that gksudo gedit /etc/fstab line then
[01:55] <SaTaN`_> well, i know how to compile, but the other stuff, u told me to do.... i dont know how to do..
[01:55] <charlieblue> meshyf: there are some options: they must be: "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46"
[01:55] <mwe> gid=46?
[01:55] <Warbo> charlieblue: I was going to suggest uid=
[01:56] <meshyf> Warbo / Charlieblue : Where are those options at?
[01:56] <Warbo> meshyf: In the tect file which should come up
[01:56] <Warbo> text
[01:56] <meshyf> warbo: ok the text file is opened.
[01:57] <mwe> doesn't someone know how to change the ugly font firefox is using for plain text files?
[01:57] <Warbo> meshyf: Do you see a line which looks like it might be your other drive?
[01:57] <meshyf> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[01:57] <meshyf> /dev/hdc1       /media/hdc1     ntfs    defaults
[01:57] <meshyf> Yea two lines.
[01:57] <charlieblue> meshyf: if you are not behinda router, you can give me your ip and activate remote-desktop. so you can see how to do.
[01:57] <SaTaN`_> mwe, whats this.. checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[01:57] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Sorry I am behind a router.
[01:57] <mwe> SaTaN`_: missing headers
[01:57] <Warbo> meshyf: Ok, try putting "defaults,uid=<yourusername>" insttead of just "defaults"
[01:57] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: That still didn't work :(
[01:57] <SaTaN`_> mwe, where can i get them?
[01:57] <charlieblue> meshyf: change the point "defaults" to "defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46"
[01:58] <charlieblue> and then open a terminal and do:"sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a"
[01:58] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Mountpoint defults to defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46?
[01:58] <charlieblue> meshyf: write
[01:58] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Did any Qemu window actually come up?
[01:58] <charlieblue> right, i mean
[01:59] <kbrooks> Do you *newbies* think that xgl support should be in EasyUbuntu?
[01:59] <meshyf> Charlieblue : Ok.
[01:59] <SaTaN`> mwe, where can i get them?
[01:59] <charlieblue> you canged the file?
[01:59] <mwe> SaTaN`_: you need at least libx11-dev and libqt3-mt-dev and kdelibs4-dev
[01:59] <charlieblue> show me the file, please. post the two changed lines.
[01:59] <meshyf> Ok I changed Defaults to: defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46
[01:59] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Nope, I went into command and put qemu.exe -L "blah" -boot d -hda D: -cdrom "Blah" and nothing happened, just went to next command line
[01:59] <mwe> SaTaN`: apt-get
[01:59] <mwe> SaTaN`: sudo apt-get install all that
[02:00] <SaTaN`> ok
[02:00] <mwe> SaTaN`: and ./configure --prefix=/usr
[02:00] <charlieblue> meshyf: now open a termina and write this: "sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a"
[02:00] <mwe> SaTaN`: the --prefix is important
[02:00] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Save the text document?
[02:00] <charlieblue> meshyf: yes!
[02:00] <meshyf> charlieblue: Kay just trying not to mess this up XD
[02:00] <mwe> SaTaN`: then sudo apt-get install checkinstall and use that to install instead of make install
[02:01] <charlieblue> meshyf: you have to save the changes. then do the terminal thing
[02:01] <Kibou> mount -o remount would be better I think
[02:01] <meshyf> Charlieblue: device is busy
[02:01] <mwe> don't umount -a a running system :)
[02:01] <charlieblue> meshyf: can you post the output?
[02:01] <charlieblue> mwe: its no problem
[02:01] <charlieblue> meshyf: no problem
[02:02] <meshyf> Charlieblue : meshyf@Ubuntu:~$ sudo umount -a && sudo mount -a
[02:02] <meshyf> umount: /dev: device is busy
[02:02] <meshyf> umount: /var/run: device is busy
[02:02] <meshyf> umount: /: device is busy
[02:02] <charlieblue> meshyf: just your / device is busy. thats no problem
[02:02] <mwe> don't do that. use mount -o remount instead
[02:02] <meshyf> Charlieblue: ok. So what happens now?
[02:02] <charlieblue> meshyf: check,ify you can read the disks
[02:02] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: So what now?
[02:03] <meshyf> Charlieblue : They are gone. D:
[02:03] <charlieblue> meshyf: you've done "sudo mount -a"
[02:03] <charlieblue> ??
[02:03] <meshyf> Charleblue: Yeah I did it just like you said.
[02:03] <charlieblue> meshyf: can you post the output from "mount"
[02:04] <charlieblue> just type "mount" into the terminal
[02:04] <meshyf> Charlieblue: meshyf@Ubuntu:~$ mount
[02:04] <meshyf> /dev/hda2 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:04] <meshyf> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> varrun on /var/run type tmpfs (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[02:04] <meshyf> /dev/hdc1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hdc1 type ntfs (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> /dev/hdb1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hdb1 type ntfs (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> /dev/hda1 on /tmp/disks-conf-hda1 type ntfs (rw)
[02:04] <meshyf> meshyf@Ubuntu:~$
[02:04] <meshyf> Now I can acess but it doesn't display anythign D:
[02:05] <charlieblue> meshyf: maybe the disks are empty?
[02:05] <apokryphos> meshyf: do not paste in here, please.
[02:05] <meshyf> Charlieblue: They are not because I go into disks and it shows they have data.
[02:05] <charlieblue> meshyf: paste direct to me.
[02:05] <apokryphos> .....or use a pastebin.
[02:05] <meshyf> charlieblue: okay. Sorry apokryphos
[02:06] <charlieblue> meshyf: nothing to see at all 3 disks?
[02:06] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Seems that the Qemu method doesn't work on Windows (another advantage to stupid volume names :( ) I can only suggest looking for some Debian install instructions, since they may work on Ubuntu and there are quite a few weird Debian manuals :)
[02:06] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Told ya I'd never get it installed ;)
[02:07] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Only thing I can see is on the filesystem. Other one just gave me a no permissions blank thing again.
[02:07] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Now instead of it being a hdc1 its "disks-conf-hdc1"
[02:07] <charlieblue> meshyf: hmm. strange
[02:08] <charlieblue> meshyf: maybe reboot your computer.
[02:08] <meshyf> charlieblue : I guess its worth a shot. :\
[02:08] <meshyf> Charlieblue: This whole opensource thing isn't working out like I'd hoped lol.
[02:09] <charlieblue> meshyf: hm. it work for very well since 3 years.
[02:09] <meshyf> charlieblue: huh?
[02:09] <charlieblue> meshyf: for me
[02:09] <meshyf> charlieblue: Yeah, I'll get this thing going right.
[02:10] <meshyf> Charlieblue: I'm going to try and restart. brb
[02:11] <XaviusShadow> Ugh... I can't figure this out.
[02:13] <meshyf> Charlieblue: That did the trick :D!
[02:13] <XaviusShadow> I can't use the smart boot manager floppy because the iso don't want to mount on my floppys
[02:13] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to get CD's to play in amarok automatically on insertion? Removable Drives and Media doesn't seem to work. It just loads the splash but doesn't open the app.
[02:13] <charlieblue> meshyf: it works now?
[02:13] <XaviusShadow> Brb, gonna try something
[02:14] <meshyf> charlieblue: Yeap I can read files from it etc
[02:14] <charlieblue> meshyf: great. have fun with your opensource-system!
[02:14] <meshyf> charlieblue: Lol thanks. Will do. :D just gotta find me some schway programs to download now.
[02:15] <charlieblue> meshyf: use synaptic. there are some thousand progs.
[02:15] <meshyf> charlieblue: What's  synaptic?
[02:15] <doctorshim> Hey, does nickserv work?
[02:15] <charlieblue> meshyf: the program that organize all your software
[02:16] <charlieblue> meshyf: ever program is in a package and with synaptic you can install packages.
[02:16] <meshyf> Charlieblue: Oh, yeah there are a handfull of program's in there.
[02:16] <charlieblue> meshyf: or just use add/remove software. ist the easy way
[02:16] <cntb> !sources.list
[02:16] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:17] <charlieblue> meshyf: some programs are just for terminal-use, so dont think every prog is directly in your menu.
[02:17] <meshyf> Charlieblue: ah, I'm noticing a lot are for KDE as well. Which is better KDE or GNOME? They seem kind of similar.
[02:19] <charlieblue> meshyf: if you know how, configure your router for portforwarding and aktivate remote-desktop. then people can (after you allow) move your mouse on your desktop and can see your desktop. thats very good if you need help & you can trust the guy who help you.
[02:19] <cntb> gnome seems to be prefered by most distros as default . Why ? dunno
[02:19] <charlieblue> meshyf: theres no better. i like gnome, some people like kde. but you can use kde-progs also in gnome. thats no problem.
[02:19] <meshyf> Charlieblue: I'll try that out next time I need help with something. I do know how to. Ah cool.
[02:19] <cntb> charlieblue: for remote u use VNC?
[02:20] <charlieblue> cntb: to help my sister, for example, yes
[02:20] <kbrooks> If you wish XGL support coud be in EasyUbuntu... No, it won't be implemented! http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/06/30/will-xgl-support-be-in-easyubuntu/
[02:20] <charlieblue> cntb: the good thing is, that both people see what is done.
[02:21] <cntb> yeah i am happy Ihave it here
[02:21] <cntb> for years used pcAnywhere
[02:21] <kditty> is there an edubuntu channle?
[02:22] <americo> ooolaaaa
[02:22] <charlieblue> cntb: i think its one of the best features because many of my friend dont know anythink about linux but i installed it. now i can help them form everywhere an they see what i do.
[02:23] <kingruedi> 
[02:23] <americo> hi
[02:23] <SaTaN`> where can i select the newly installed theme?
[02:23] <kingruedi> how is the script called that can install nvidia, java etc. I just forgot the name
[02:23] <cntb> cool very cool Cahrlie so you install vncserver by default
[02:23] <charlieblue> SaTaN`: System->Settings->Theme
[02:23] <charlieblue> cntb: no
[02:24] <cntb> charlieblue:  no?
[02:24] <SaTaN`> i use KDE...
[02:24] <charlieblue> cntb: i just go to System->Settings->remote Desktop and aktivate it
[02:24] <cntb> u install it by phone or messenger?
[02:24] <cntb> thta is it?
[02:24] <Answer> I just installed some programs with synaptic, how do I update the Applications list ?
[02:24] <cntb> how simple
[02:24] <charlieblue> cntb: and i tell my sister at telephone(for exampe) that she has to aktivate it
[02:24] <cntb> and ready
[02:24] <SaTaN`> charlieblue,  i`m using KDE
[02:25] <cntb> fedora made me crazy
[02:25] <charlieblue> cntb: you can test it then with a terminal:type: "vncviewer localhost"
[02:25] <charlieblue> its easy
[02:25] <cntb> little is automated as in ubuntu and windows
[02:25] <cntb> where Are u now
[02:25] <charlieblue> cntb: me?
[02:25] <cntb> I will let u move my mouse
[02:26] <cntb> go PM ?
[02:26] <charlieblue> cntb: are you behind a router?
[02:26] <cntb> yeah but DMZ
[02:26] <cntb> it is a good old alcatel
[02:26] <charlieblue> cntb: you need a public ip. otherwise you have to forward the port 5900 to your ip
[02:26] <Answer> I just installed some programs with synaptic, how do I update the Applications list ?
[02:26] <Answer> I just installed some programs with synaptic, how do I update the Applications list ?
[02:27] <cntb> router is UPNP and yes  I can give u a public IP
[02:27] <ccooke> Answer: 1) Please don't repeat a question
[02:27] <gnomefreak> Answer: killall gnome-panel
[02:28] <Answer> ccooke, answer the first time then. don't be a jerk
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Answer: stop
[02:28] <pipi> hi everyone, i am going to buy a amd athlon64 CPU for my next desktop. and i think whether I should install ubuntu-amd64 version or not? does it means a great performance improvement?
[02:28] <SaTaN`> charlieblue,  i`m using KDE
[02:28] <gnomefreak> Answer: not need to be mean and no need to repeat yourself
[02:28] <mjr> pipi, not a great one, but somewhat yes
[02:28] <charlieblue> SaTaN`: then i don't know. anywhere in the Systemsettings or ControlCenter
[02:29] <SaTaN`> ok, thnx anyway...
[02:29] <ccooke> Answer: 2) If they don't appear automatically, you can use 'killall gnome-panel' to force it to reload. If it doesn't appear then, the application you installed doesn't add a menu item. Add one yourself with Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte menu editor
[02:29] <fyrestrtr> pipi: you won't be able to do somethings (like flash). I don't know if you would feel the difference in performance, unless you are going to do some rendering or advanced number crunching.
[02:29] <charlieblue> SaTaN`: i think theres a point "Look & Feel"
[02:29] <pipi> mjr: ubuntu 64 bit version 30% faster than the 32bit version ?
[02:29] <apokryphos> SaTaN`: #kubuntu
[02:29] <cntb> charlieblue: short test with me ? go  PM?
[02:29] <charlieblue> apokryphos: ^^thanks
[02:29] <bcron> Even the name Answer seems pushy
[02:29] <apokryphos> pipi: check the FAQ
[02:29] <tuxtheslacker> hey. can someoen tell me what I should do to get kdevelop?
[02:29] <mjr> pipi, some things are, probably not overall though
[02:29] <charlieblue> cntb: im already at PM
[02:29] <cntb> no rush np i am stickin around today
[02:29] <ccooke> Answer: 3) Being rude will not get you *any* answers. Calling people a jerk is being rude, as is repeating your question. This is a busy channel, please do not add even more noise to it.
[02:30] <cntb> k
[02:30] <SaTaN`> apokryphos,  thnx :)
[02:30] <apokryphos> !info kdevelop
[02:30] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[02:30] <pipi> fyrestrtr:  yep. my major work is under matlab
[02:30] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[02:30] <apokryphos> !find kdevelop
[02:30] <ubotu> Found: kdevelop3, kdevelop3-data, kdevelop3-dev, kdevelop3-doc, kdevelop3-plugins
[02:30] <apokryphos> !info kdevelop3
[02:30] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[02:30] <pipi> apokryphos: ok thanks
[02:30] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, it's not in the repos.
[02:30] <charlieblue> cntb: you see my private message?
[02:30] <apokryphos> tuxtheslacker: enable universe (see teh FAQ) and then install it.
[02:30] <apokryphos> tuxtheslacker: it is.
[02:30] <cntb> not yet charlieblue why
[02:30] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: it is its in universe
[02:30] <charlieblue> hm
[02:30] <mjr> pipi, with matlab you might find the performance increase worth it, if they have a 64-bit version
[02:30] <gnomefreak> universe*
[02:31] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, I was trying sudo apt-get install kdevelop, not kdevelop3 like I should've.
[02:31] <pipi> mjr : I do find a matlab 64bit edition for linux
[02:31] <fyrestrtr> pipi: then go for it.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> tuxtheslacker: kdevelop should default to newest version
[02:32] <Warbo> Yes! My CD works in Qemu. Now to get my CD Writer working...
[02:32] <tuxtheslacker> gnomefreak, it dind't find it when i did sudo apt-get install kdevelop but it did for kdevelop3.
[02:32] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: nope, no such package.
[02:32] <mp3guy> Is there any tools I can get for my apache2 server I'm running? Like statistics, whos connected etc..?
[02:33] <gnomefreak> apokryphos: why change the name of it now?
[02:33] <ale_> hello, with a "standard" ubuntu intall (gnome and co), is it possitible to set the alt+right_mouse to resize the windows?
[02:33] <OrgulloKmoore> does somebody want to help me transfer files via SSH?
[02:33] <apokryphos> mp3guy: yes; for stats: install webalizer, for who's connected: mod status.
[02:33] <gnomefreak> its not like its new
[02:33] <fyrestrtr> OrgulloKmoore: man scp
[02:33] <cntb> public IP on Pm charlieblue
[02:33] <OrgulloKmoore> fyrestrtr right, but I don't get the host part...
[02:33] <apokryphos> gnomefreak: I would've presumed to prepare the way for kde 4, but... looks like they haven't done that with the others. I don't know :/
[02:33] <OrgulloKmoore> fyrestrtr is my host localhost?
[02:33] <apokryphos> OrgulloKmoore: use scp. /msg ubotu scp
[02:33] <pipi> fyrestrtr: another question : does amd X2 run much faster than the single core one? i learnt a few days ago that amd has some reverse Hyper threat technology, which makes amd x2 much faster
[02:34] <apokryphos> OrgulloKmoore: or, you can use GFTP.
[02:34] <fyrestrtr> OrgulloKmoore: scp file.txt user@anotherhost.com:/path/where/you/want/to/put/it/
[02:34] <apokryphos> ale_: nope
[02:34] <Nameeater> does anyone know how I can disable gnome from putting things in the application bar at the bottom when they flash for my attention?
[02:34] <rsk> ale_, if you lown howto do that, please tell me. :)
[02:34] <apokryphos> Only kwin (KDE) and Compiz have that
[02:34] <Nameeater> like I have gaim on virtual desktop #2, but the bar flashes on desktop #1 when a message comes in
[02:34] <mp3guy> apokryphos; Error: Can't open log file /var/log/apache/access.log.1
[02:34] <ccooke> pipi: Benchmarks have put the increase at *up to* 80%. Any particular application could get rather less than that, however.
[02:35] <apokryphos> mp3guy: when do you get that?
[02:35] <Warbo> AA! My CD burner isn't working. Gnomebaker just spits out the CD and says failed :(
[02:35] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: what are you trying to do? normally, you should be able to connect to a ssh/scp server through the file manager :-)
[02:35] <mp3guy> when trying to run webalizer apokryphos
[02:35] <ccooke> pipi: AMD's dual-core chips are more efficient than Intel's at the moment, though - with the probably exception of the Core Duo.
[02:35] <apokryphos> mp3guy: so use sudo or chmod that directory
[02:35] !lilo:*! Random kiddie activity at 3:45am, main rotation server split; a deferred announcement seemed like a good idea. Thanks.
[02:35] <ccooke> pipi: (efficient in this case meaning: Get more benefit from the second core)
[02:36] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: you may have to tell us if you want to connect to an existing server or you are setting up a ssh server.
[02:36] <mp3guy> apokryphos, it doesn't exist
[02:36] <Warbo> Any help for CD Writing?
[02:37] <cntb> charlieblue:  ru there?
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> does anyone know what timezone Germany is in?
[02:37] <OrgulloKmoore> ale_ I have connected to an existing server through ssh and now I want to transfer some files to it
[02:37] <Warbo> fyrestrtr: GMT+2 I think
[02:37] <fyrestrtr> OrgulloKmoore: exit your current session, then use scp from your local machine.
[02:37] <pipi> ccooke: it seems that amd X2 really runs faster intel PD cpus. i am waiting for amd price cut
[02:38] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: do you want to do it graphically or through a terminal?
[02:38] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: for a terminal, just use scp as you have already been told.
[02:38] <ccooke> pipi: Yes, AMD are fastest in the merket right now. The Intel Core Duo seems to be *Very* competitive though - I think it works out equivalent or cheaper price-wise. It's laptop only, though.
[02:39] <OrgulloKmoore> ale_ and graphically?
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> ccooke: they are bringing it to the desktop now.
[02:39] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: if you want to do it with a gui, just connect to the server in the places menu
[02:39] <XaviusShadow> I'm back
[02:39] <ccooke> pipi: if you have time to wait, the Core 2 CPUs from Intel are expected in August.
[02:39] <Warbo> Can anyone help me write this CD?
[02:39] <fyrestrtr> OrgulloKmoore: Places -> Connect to Server
[02:39] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Write what CD?
[02:39] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: choose "ssh" instead of "public ftp" :-)
[02:39] <OrgulloKmoore> ah, got it!
[02:39] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Write my CD I have just made and booted in Qemu
[02:39] <OrgulloKmoore> thanks fyrestrtr, ale_
[02:39] <ccooke> fyrestrtr: not *Strictly* true. They're releasing the Core 2, which is the first (!) cpu based on the Core Microarchitecture... (Not being confusing *At all*, there)
[02:40] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: it should work then :-))
[02:40] <OrgulloKmoore> the main thing was logging out of my ssh session
[02:40] <americo>  just a question: Why can I only listen sounds through my headphones?? How could I change this?
[02:40] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: Ahhh, you can get Qemu to work of course, but I can't, what's a good program to burn isos?
[02:40] <mmilo> how do i delete a directory with stuff inside it?
[02:40] <ccooke> fyrestrtr: I'm hoping Core 2 will put them back into competition - it keeps the chip market interesting actually having *two* companies releasing great stuff
[02:40] <mmilo> im assuming it's rmdir or something like that
[02:40] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: I have tried Gnomebaker, k3b and Nautilus
[02:40] <ale_> OrgulloKmoore: you normally don't have to log out from your ssh session. but you can't copy through it. you have to start a new session :-)
[02:40] <Warbo> mmilo: rm -r
[02:40] <mmilo> thanks Warbo
[02:40] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: What would you reccomend?
[02:40] <fyrestrtr> ccooke: yeah, but for the average computer user, it really doesn't matter as long as they can type on Word and play solitaire :)
[02:40] <Warbo> mmilo: rmdir only does empty directories
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ANyone happen to have a link to disk keeper script to automount drives
[02:41] <pipi> ccooke: my plan is to buy my desktop at about late august or early september. at that time, which cpu seems better?
[02:41] <ale_> back to my resize "problem": which window manager does the standard gnome from ubuntu use?
[02:41] <Warbo> XaviusShadow: Usually Nautilus, but if you have some subconcious desire for Nero then Gnomebaker
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> pipi: if you are going to buy then, just wait for the Christmas sale.
[02:41] <apokryphos> mp3guy: what doesn't exist? The folder?
[02:41] <mmilo> cool ill remember that
[02:41] <apokryphos> mp3guy: if you have apache2 installed it's surely there
[02:41] <mp3guy> the folder or the file apokryphos
[02:41] <fyrestrtr> ale_: Nautilus
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Wait until AFTER Xmas sales
[02:41] <ccooke> pipi: Good question. Nobody is sure, right now. Core 2 *might* be the best price/performace at that time.
[02:42] <mp3guy> nope
[02:42] <apokryphos> mp3guy: you're running plain "webalizer"?
[02:42] <ccooke> pipi: (that's the not-yet-released Intel chipset)
[02:42] <mp3guy> yep
[02:42] <apokryphos> mp3guy: and the exact error is?
[02:42] <ale_> fyrestrtr: ? nautilus is a file manager or similar... or am i mistaking?
[02:42] <serveri> Hi
[02:42] <mp3guy> apokryphos; Error: Can't open log file /var/log/apache/access.log.1
[02:42] <apokryphos> mp3guy: nothing else?
[02:42] <fyrestrtr> ale_: oh you mean window manager -- I believe that's sawfish.
[02:42] <Warbo> Can anyone PLEASE help me with my CD burner?
[02:43] <mp3guy> hmm
[02:43] <Jack_Sparrow> warbo, what is the prob
[02:43] <mp3guy> its looking for apache while I have apache2
[02:43] <serveri> I can't build perl module DBI on Ubuntu Linux for AMD x 64
[02:43] <apokryphos> mp3guy: why do you think that?
[02:43] <serveri> I have errors
[02:43] <fyrestrtr> mp3guy: edit the configuration for the stats program.
[02:43] <mp3guy> apokryphos; because I have a /var/log/apache2/access.log.1 and not a /var/log/apache/access.log.1
[02:43] <ale_> fyrestrtr: i believe it, too :-) ... but didn't find any reference to it!
[02:44] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: Gnomebaker, k3b and nautilus detect CDRW discs, but not CDRs, but spit out blanks every time and say "failed"
[02:44] <ccooke> serveri: why aren't you using the Ubuntu package?
[02:44] <truzak> hello, which file does dircolors -p show as its output?
[02:44] <apokryphos> mp3guy: manually tell webalizer where to look for the stats, then, or edit the config file of webalizer
[02:44] <ccooke> serveri: (Not that there aren't good reasons, but the answer why will probably help answer your question)
[02:44] <serveri> Tell me what package I to use
[02:44] <charlieblue> cntb: are you still here?
[02:44] <monomaniacpat> anyone know how to get CDs to play in amarok upon insertion?
[02:44] <cntb> yeah
[02:44] <charlieblue> cntb: can'tyou see my private mesages?
[02:45] <cntb> already activated and PMd you public IP
[02:45] <ccooke> serveri: well, if you do a package search for "perl dbi" you'll find a ton of stuff
[02:45] <apokryphos> charlieblue: not if you're not registered.
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Wow, never heard of that except on one drive I had that was failing...  KEpt spitting out coasters
[02:45] <Frogzoo> glx with latest fglrx is stupid slow - is there a fix?
[02:45] <Warbo> monomaniacpat: Preferences > Removable Drives and Media, but I have never played a CD in AmaroK before
[02:45] <cntb> oh sorry was talkin to my wife
[02:45] <ale_> fyrestrtr: ... but it's probably metacity.
[02:45] <americo> I only listen sounds through my headphones?? How could I change this?
[02:45] <pipi> ccooke: thanks. i think it is better to consider this question 2 months later
[02:45] <ccooke> serveri: the basic one, though, is "libdbi-perl"
[02:45] <XaviusShadow> Warbo: I know that the cd isn't the reason Ubuntu isn't installing now... I threw it into my xp system and it booted right up
[02:45] <charlieblue> cntb: you have to remove the checkbox password or tell me the password (not! your account password. only the vnc-passwort. use something like "test". just for 2 minutes"
[02:45] <ccooke> pipi: that's right.
[02:45] <fyrestrtr> americo: unplug your headphones and plug in some speakers?
[02:46] <cntb> strange you are not answering me on PM either
[02:46] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: It just keeps asking for a CD when I use CDRs, so I have to use a CDRW so thankfully I can blank it (in another computer that is)
[02:46] <ale_> americo: check the levels in "$ alsamixer"
[02:46] <charlieblue> cntb: hmm
[02:46] <schmakk> if something is listed in synaptic as (local or obsolete) does that mean its safe to remove? this is pretty much just a base ubuntu system
[02:46] <serveri> ccooke, thank's for valuable advice. It's really easy to install it
[02:46] <charlieblue> cntb: just use "test" as vnc-password
[02:46] <john_66251> Is anyone aware of a program that allows the user to just click on an icon and the Tar Zip file just loads and extracts and does whatever??? I just want to install the program - I don't want to be transcribing scripts and stuffing around .....
[02:46] <cntb> see
[02:47] <visik7> is there a way to power on off usb ports via /sys or /proc or some other way ?
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Warbo, wish I had an answer...  HAve you tried another live distro
[02:47] <americo> fyrestrtr, ale, thanks
[02:47] <cntb> hi cntb: im on your computer:)
[02:47] <Warbo> schmakk: local or obsolete just means that it is not in the Ubuntu repositories, therefore you have either made it yourself or installed it from somewhere that is no longer used. As to the safeness of removing it, it all depends on what the program is
[02:47] <cntb> nice
[02:47] <Jack_Sparrow> I can burn CD-r with Knoppix Live once I use the menu option to set root password
[02:47] <ccooke> serveri: you'll find almost anything you want is already packaged for you in Ubuntu, thanks to the Debian package archive. Dapper, for instance, has over 18 thousand normal packages
[02:47] <cntb>  i go out.
[02:47] <mp3guy> thanks apokryphos, that worked, is there anyway to run "sudo webalizer" on startup?
[02:47] <cntb> bye
[02:47] <cntb> 10x a lot
[02:47] <fyrestrtr> john_66251: well, gnome can do that, I think. But you will need to write a script somewhere.
[02:48] <charlieblue> cntb: great, isnt it?
[02:48] <Warbo> Jack_Sparrow: I don't really want to reboot..... (although I think I have a DSL disc somewhere, and that has a 2.4 kernel so cdrecord shouldn't complain)
[02:48] <charlieblue> cntb: i logged out. you can deaktivate the remote desktop
[02:48] <Warbo> OK, I will try
[02:48] <Warbo> bye
[02:48] <Frogzoo> john_66251: why trouble with tar files? why not use synaptic?
[02:48] <cntb> yeah I like your approach
[02:48] <cntb> it is very much like me
[02:48] <schmakk> Warbo, for a box that has been upgraded from warty to dapper, and where pretty much nothing has been changed manually, i assume that the stuff there is just stuff from earlier releases that is no longer usable?
[02:48] <charlieblue> cntb: it was a bit slow for me. i think your or my internetconnection is a bit slow.
[02:49] <john_66251> I don't want to write scripts and I don't want to read manuals - I just want the blessed program to unpack and install - without spending hours transcribing scripts ...
[02:49] <cntb> PM you email and IM
[02:49] <john_66251> what is synaptic???
[02:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Package manager
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> hrmm ...
[02:49] <john_66251> where do I find synaptic?
[02:49] <fyrestrtr> troll??
[02:49] <ale_> americo: did you solve it... you could tell us how: it helps to help the next ones :-)
[02:49] <kevin> Synaptic is under system administration john_66251
[02:50] <cntb> !skype
[02:50] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:50] <schmakk> john_66251, system->administration, its one of the graphical ways you can manage software install and removal
[02:50] <mp3guy> how do you run sudo commands at startup?
[02:51] <kevin> mp3guy, no idea
[02:51] <S1ixx> hello
[02:52] <Frogzoo> !synaptic > john_66251
[02:52] <sorush20> hi loading hardware drivers takes too long on my computer what can I do?
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> create a runlevel, or create a init script and stick it in init.d/
[02:52] <john_66251> many thanks - now I have to work out how to fly another program - but thanks and I hope it makes loading programs possible for those who are uninterested in the how and why and just want it doine!!!!
[02:52] <sorush20> I also get hda DMA time out
[02:52] <kevin> john_66251,  it does
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> sorush20: dma does not work on SATA drives.
[02:52] <S1ixx> hey
[02:52] <charlieblue> cntb: can you invite me for gmail?
[02:53] <S1ixx> how do i get root on my ubuntu
[02:53] <poseidon> !grub
[02:53] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:53] <rsk> Slixx make a root account
[02:53] <americo> see u folks, good weekend!
[02:53] <charlieblue> S1ixx: theres no root-user
[02:53] <S1ixx> how do i do that
[02:53] <charlieblue> S1ixx: use sudo
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> !tell S1ixx about root
[02:53] <cntb> yeah sure in short time
[02:53] <S1ixx> how do i make a root account ?
[02:53] <Frogzoo> S1ixx: preferably, you don't
[02:54] <charlieblue> S1ixx: sudo passwd
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: add the user to the admin group
[02:54] <S1ixx> ok so
[02:54] <serveri> How to install tkpod utility for viewing perl documentation in graphical mode against perldoc?
[02:54] <S1ixx> sudo passwd
[02:54] <charlieblue> S1ixx: but you dontneed
[02:54] <S1ixx> makes root ?
[02:54] <ale_> apokryphos, rsk: ok, found out: just use the middle mouse instead of the right mouse :-)
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> !root
[02:54] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:54] <cntb> charlieblue: invite you how  ? on gmail
[02:54] <charlieblue> S1ixx: it set a password for the root-user. but you dont need. use sudo
[02:54] <S1ixx> i want roooot
[02:54] <S1ixx> lol
[02:54] <serveri> What name have tkpod utiliti in synaptic?
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: just type sudo bash
[02:55] <schmakk> S1ixx, the idea is that you use the sudo command when you need to do something as root, its sort of a safety measure against you screwing up
[02:55] <S1ixx> wont it be easier if i just log on as root..
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> serveri: type apt-cache search tkpod
[02:55] <ale_> slicslak: $ sudo su
[02:55] <rsk> ale_, ok i know that but i would like to use mouse2 instead, (my middle mouse button is kinda broken)
[02:55] <apokryphos> ale_: that's probably configurable in gconf-editor or whatever
[02:55] <poseidon> my first harddrive, on the 2nd partition, is it hd(0,1) or hd(0,2) ?
[02:55] <apokryphos> S1ixx: /msg ubotu root
[02:55] <charlieblue> cntb: its not possible to get a gmail-account. people who have one can invite other people.
[02:55] <cntb> i know charlieblue
[02:55] <masterofallarts> Hi
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: unless you know what you are doing, you don't want to login as root.
[02:55] <serveri> I have no result
[02:55] <cntb> so I need any other email of yours to invite u
[02:55] <S1ixx> why ?
[02:55] <john_66251> but if the install process says you need to be in ROOT - because it wants to run a script - SUDO doesn't work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:55] <S1ixx> it doesnt make a difference ?
[02:55] <apokryphos> S1ixx: /msg ubotu root
[02:56] <masterofallarts> I want quicktime vids in Mozilla!
[02:56] <masterofallarts> What do I have to do?
[02:56] <cntb> PM it pls charlieblue
[02:56] <jrib> john_66251: can you tell us what you are trying to install?
[02:56] <rsk> install mplayerplug-in
[02:56] <serveri> fyrestrtr, I typed apt-cache ...., but I have no result
[02:56] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: yes, it makes a difference. A big difference. The OS will not stop you from doing something stupid like rm -rf / as root.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> !quicktime
[02:56] <charlieblue> cntb: http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en/about.html#signup
[02:56] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:56] <masterofallarts> I already have libquicktime0 and mozplugger installed, but...
[02:56] <cntb> csome other email I mean charlieblue
[02:56] <gnomefreak> masterofallarts: ^^^
[02:56] <john_66251> jrib - an accounting package!!!!! a tar zip file!!!!!!!!!!
[02:57] <sorush20> fyrestrtr: I don't have SATA..
[02:57] <jrib> john_66251: yes, you said that.  But the actual name of it, where did you get it?
[02:57] <S1ixx> i dont know much linux
[02:57] <charlieblue> cntb: see private message
[02:57] <S1ixx> but having a root account just sitting there for when i need it
[02:57] <S1ixx> wont that be ok ?
[02:57] <apokryphos> S1ixx: I recommend checking out the FAQ
[02:57] <cntb> i invited dozens  charlieblue
[02:57] <apokryphos> S1ixx: /msg ubotu root
[02:57] <john_66251> I run install.pl and I get a list of "permission denied - U are not root"
[02:57] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: no, read the FAQ. You can do anything you want as root.
[02:57] <charlieblue> cntb: can you invite me?
[02:57] <S1ixx> ok guys
[02:57] <S1ixx> thanks for your help anyways :)
[02:58] <cntb> charlieblue: very starnge you see me on PM and I dont see you
[02:58] <charlieblue> S1ixx: you dont need the account. sure.
[02:58] <S1ixx> btw... do you guys know what the problem is with my Perl
[02:58] <cntb> closing PM tab opening again
[02:58] <apokryphos> cntb: perhaps he's not registered?
[02:58] <S1ixx> im having problems running my perl files
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: like what?
[02:58] <S1ixx> 2 secs
[02:58] <cntb> I am registered on nickserv
[02:58] <S1ixx> and ill show u
[02:58] <cntb> !nickserv
[02:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about nickserv
[02:58] <gnomefreak> S1ixx: sudo perl file.pl
[02:58] <apokryphos> cntb: perhaps they aren't?
[02:58] <fyrestrtr> S1ixx: don't flood in here.
[02:58] <gnomefreak> !register
[02:58] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:59] <charlieblue> cntb: you see PM now?
[02:59] <john_66251> Slixxx I have been trying to run a perl script for three hours but it won't let me  - keeps telling me I need to be root .... access denied - permission denied ....
[02:59] <cntb> charlie read above
[02:59] <cntb> !register
[02:59] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[02:59] <fyrestrtr> john_66251: how are you running it, and what script is it?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> charlieblue: are you registered and identified to nickserv?
[02:59] <charlieblue> john_66251: just do: sudo perlscript.pl
[02:59] <kevin> john_66251, so do sudo su then run the script
[02:59] <charlieblue> gnomefreak: no
[02:59] <charlieblue> gnomefreak: i dont knowhow i can register
[02:59] <gnomefreak> no what?
[02:59] <apokryphos> charlieblue: /msg ubotu freenode
[02:59] <charlieblue> gnomefreak: im not registered
[03:00] <apokryphos> charlieblue: sorry, I mean /msg ubotu register
[03:00] <fyrestrtr> charlieblue: type /msg nickserv help register
[03:00] <gnomefreak> !register > charlieblue
[03:00] <gnomefreak> charlieblue: read your pm from ubotu
[03:00] <john_66251> sudo su is about the fifth idea someone has had - nothing else works!!!!!
[03:00] <kevin> sudo su puts you into root john_66251
[03:00] <apokryphos> john_66251: it's not recommended (see /msg ubotu root). You should use sudo -i
[03:00] <kevin> bbs
[03:00] <masterofallarts> gnomefreak: ok, im running easyubuntu
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> okay I'm off to watch the match.
[03:01] <fyrestrtr> :)
[03:01] <kbrooks> masterofallarts: #easyubuntu can help
[03:01] <gnomefreak> masterofallarts: than ask in #easyubuntu
[03:01] <john_66251> This is the second most frustrating thing that I have ever encountered!!!!!
[03:02] <jrib> john_66251: can you link us to where you got the file you are trying to install?
[03:02] <S1ixx> stephen@stephenubuntu:~/Perl$ perl file.pl
[03:02] <S1ixx> Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at file.pl line 14.
[03:02] <S1ixx> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at file.pl line 14.
[03:02] <S1ixx> thats my problem
[03:03] <masterofallarts> yes, thank you!
[03:03] <john_66251> I downloaded an accounting package - several actually from the respective websites - but nothing will install because I keep getting told I need to be root - permission denied - access denied!!!!!
[03:03] <tanath> can someone help me with x? i'm trying to use the fglrx driver, but it says incompatible kernel module version
[03:03] <jrib> john_66251: can you link us to where you got the file you are currently trying to install?  That way we can take a look at it..
[03:04] <john_66251> How does one link you to a file????
[03:04] <jrib> john_66251: to the website
[03:04] <tanath> x won't start
[03:05] <frank_b> hey, my xchat from the new ubuntu version starts with a message "xchat remote access loaded successfully!" which I don't remember seeing before. what the hell is this?
[03:05] <john_66251> http://www.linuxcanada.com/download2.shtml
[03:05] <S1ixx> im having problems running my perl files
[03:05] <S1ixx> stephen@stephenubuntu:~/Perl$ perl file.pl
[03:05] <S1ixx> Can't locate LWP/UserAgent.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at file.pl line 14.
[03:05] <S1ixx> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at file.pl line 14.
[03:06] <john_66251> Download GPL source code
[03:06] <S1ixx> huh ?
[03:06] <tanath> (WW) fglrx: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:0:1) found
[03:06] <tanath> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will
[03:06] <LoRez> install libwww-perl
[03:06] <tanath> not work
[03:06] <S1ixx> ive tried
[03:06] <S1ixx> but i get errors when i try
[03:06] <tanath> how do i fix that?
[03:07] <LoRez> then work on those errors, the perl errors aren't terribly helpful except to say you've not got the appropriate module installed.
[03:08] <S1ixx> k
[03:08] <john_66251> and synaptic makes about as much sense as  the rest of this ...........
[03:08] <graveson> is webmin part of ubuntu ?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> graveson: as of dapper no
[03:09] <john_66251> Slixx - it seems you have to read seven textbooks and get a PhD in neuclear physics ... then you might understand the mumbo jumbo!
[03:09] <naxx> guys
[03:09] <jrib> john_66251: you downloaded source code.  If you want to install it, you'll need to compile it.  This isn't a simple task for a beginner.  Have you searched synaptic for an alternative accounting package?  I believe I saw you trying to install sql-ledger before.  sql-ledger should be in synaptic
[03:10] <naxx> i am currently installing ubuntu on my laptop
[03:10] <naxx> ;)
[03:10] <naxx> lets see if i can get it workin
[03:11] <Cyorxamp> I think synaptic looks too scarey for john_66251... that big list of spooky strangely worded things - it gets him all hot and bothered
[03:11] <jrib> john_66251: synaptic holds packages for ubuntu so that all you have to do is right click and press install.  Is sql-ledger something you want to install?
[03:11] <john_66251> Thanks jrib - the only one who makes any real sense here!!!!!! I don't know anything about synaptic but I can check ... Thanks again!
[03:11] <john_66251> Yes rib - if only I could
[03:11] <john_66251> I have been trying for four hours!!!
[03:11] <hctibtipots> how do you install bittornado-cvs?
[03:12] <cntb> gnomefreak:  how did you ubotu PMd
[03:12] <jrib> john_66251: ok, first you need to enable the universe repository in synaptic.  Ubotu will send you some instructions, if you ahve any questions just ask.  After enabling universe, you can just search for sql-ledger in synaptic and install it
[03:12] <john_66251> I will go check - thanks again jrib] 
[03:12] <jrib> !repos > john_66251
[03:12] <gnomefreak> cntb: ubotu can pm anyone
[03:12] <Cyorxamp> john_66251, syanptic has to be one of the easiest things there is! - you just haven't look around the program enough
[03:12] <joeljkp> straw poll: in everyone's opinion, what is the most important project to the free software movement?
[03:12] <tanath> can someone help me get fglrx working?
[03:12] <hctibtipots> how do you install bittornado-cvs?
[03:12] <gnomefreak> joeljkp: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:13] <thoreauputic> joeljkp: gcc
[03:13] <Cyorxamp> joeljkp - linux kernel OR reactos
[03:13] <gnomefreak> hctibtipots: what wrong with the one in the repos?
[03:13] <john_66251> Cyor - I don't wantr to look around the prog - I just want to load the accounting package .... I have better things to do ....
[03:13] <hctibtipots> repos??
[03:13] <thoreauputic> !repos > hctibtipots
[03:13] <gnomefreak> !info bittornado
[03:13] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.3.13-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 151 kB, installed size 848 kB
[03:13] <Cyorxamp> john_66251, well get the hell out! - you can't install something if you don't understand how installing works on a linux box in the first place
[03:14] <hctibtipots> !repos
[03:14] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:14] <gnomefreak> hctibtipots: sudo apt-get install bittornado
[03:14] <john_66251> why can't linux be simple enough that u don't need to know anything???????
[03:14] <Cyorxamp> john_66251.... Linux != Windows
[03:14] <tanath> john_66251: what are you trying to do?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> joeljkp: because than it would have to be named windows
[03:14] <thoreauputic> john_66251: if you aren't willing to learn, maybe ubuntu isn't for you
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Why would I not have permission to create a folder on my desktop
[03:15] <masterofallarts> windows wants to make you believe a computer is simple
[03:15] <gnomefreak> joeljkp: just like anything else in life you need to learn it
[03:15] <Cyorxamp> john_66251 - Linux (at least for what your trying to do) IS simpler than windows... it's just different to how windows would do it
[03:15] <masterofallarts> which is wrong.
[03:15] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: what does 'ls -ld ~/Desktop' say?
[03:15] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec
[03:15] <john_66251> I don't want to learn anything - I just want to download and run a program without reading textbooks and translating scripts!!!
[03:15] <tanath> john_66251: you can do so... what program?
[03:15] <AlexC> Hey
[03:15] <gnomefreak> john_66251: if you dont want to learn maybe stick with what you already know
[03:15] <thoreauputic> !tell john_66251 about docs
[03:15] <masterofallarts> thats not nice, learning is important...
[03:16] <AlexC> How do I find out my LAN IP Address? like in Windows I just do ipconfig
[03:16] <rsk> ifconfig
[03:16] <gnomefreak> AlexC: ifconfig
[03:16] <thoreauputic> AlexC: ifconfig
[03:16] <ballessay> AlexC ifconfig
[03:16] <ballessay> lol
[03:16] <thoreauputic> heh
[03:16] <masterofallarts> The only interesting thing about computers is that there is so much to learn about them
[03:16] <AlexC> hehe =) tahnks, why IF though? IP would be more logical, no?
[03:16] <Cody> Does anyone know how to prelink FLock browser?
[03:16] <tanath> InterFace
[03:16] <thoreauputic> AlexC: no, if = interface
[03:16] <gnomefreak> AlexC: ipconfig is windows/dos
[03:16] <masterofallarts> and windows prevents you from learning the essentials.
[03:17] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 16384 1969- 12-31 16:00 /home/jack/Desktop
[03:17] <AlexC> ok, thanks
[03:17] <ballessay> Jack_Sparrow: chown jack:jack /home/jack/Desktop
[03:17] <Cody> is there a way to edit the prelinked progams
[03:17] <Frankx> hi, first time user here
[03:18] <ardchoille> Frankx: hi
[03:18] <Cody> anyone?
[03:18] <Frankx> is this a chatroom for questions on ubuntu?
[03:18] <jrib> Frankx: yes
[03:18] <Frankx> great.  I'll keep it for future reference
[03:18] <tanath> can someone help me get fglrx working?
[03:18] <Jack_Sparrow> ball says operation NOT permitted
[03:18] <thoreauputic> !ati
[03:18] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:19] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: sudo chown jack:jack ~/Desktop
[03:19] <Cody> is there another ubuntu support channel
[03:19] <ballessay> sorry use sudo in front of the command
[03:19] <Cody> ????
[03:19] <Cody> ?
[03:19] <Frankx> gotta go, tc
[03:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ballessay:  says operation NOT permitted
[03:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Still
[03:20] <tanath> "Your card model is an entire number in the 9xxx series, and is equal to or above 9500" <-- if not?
[03:20] <adamant1988> then it doesn't work tanath.
[03:21] <purduepepe> does anyone know how th get flash player for ubuntu 6.06
[03:21] <tanath> does that mean i wouldn't be able to use xgl?
[03:21] <jrib> !flash > purduepepe
[03:21] <Cody> BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME MANY PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM, IT WOULD BE EASIER IF SOME MIGRATED OVER TO #ubuntusupport
[03:21] <jrib> !caps
[03:21] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[03:21] <adamant1988> I don't think using XGL is a good idea tanath...
[03:22] <tanath> adamant1988: why's that?
[03:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Cody, run over there and wit for us
[03:22] <john_66251> ny accounting package PLZ!
[03:22] <Cody> I am
[03:22] <Cody> sry bout the caps
[03:22] <jrib> john_66251: did you enable universe yet?
[03:22] <adamant1988> hey Cody mind using the /topic for me?
[03:22] <adamant1988> The topic states very clearely "Official Ubuntu Support Channel"
[03:22] <Howitzer> i have a question: I installed ubuntu dapper on a networkless pc
[03:22] <adamant1988> without the incorrect spelling
[03:23] <john_66251> jrib - yes I think I have but can't find it - what is it called there? Search says no listing
[03:23] <purduepepe> thanks I will try that >jrib
[03:23] <Howitzer> now i want to install all the kubuntu packages on it aswell from the kubuntu dapper cd
[03:23] <Howitzer> how do i do that?
[03:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Why would I not have permission to create a folder on my desktop, this is a fresh install of Ub
[03:23] <xpapa> hello , i have a little question ... i search the paket for M4 macros to build slab or another gnome-application
[03:23] <adamant1988> tanath, first off if your card isn't working right then xgl isn't going to work... second xgl makes things kind of unstable..
[03:23] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: you do - jsut right click, create folder
[03:23] <jrib> john_66251: ok do this in a terminal: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' without the quotes.  Then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list file on that site.  After you post, copy the URL and paste it here for us to see
[03:23] <thoreauputic> *just
[03:23] <adamant1988> but that's the tradeoff you get for pretty
[03:23] <tanath> john_66251: http://www.aaxnet.com/design/linuxacct.html
[03:24] <Howitzer> i checked the sources.list and the cd repo is correctly listed, synaptic recognizes the cd but searching for KDE/kubuntu/kubuntu-desktop gives 0 results
[03:24] <Cody> Is anyone going to move over to #ubuntusupport ?
[03:24] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: reload/ update
[03:24] <henk> Hi anyone in here that can tell me what kind of nv card i'll need to run XGL decently? I dont want to spend too much but i want it to run nicely. Will a 6200 do? or do I need 6600? and what if I get a 7300 PCI will that do? pci it much cheaper
[03:24] <jrib> Cody: this is ubuntu support
[03:24] <adamant1988> probably not cody.
[03:24] <Templeir> please, where i can find source for ubuntu?
[03:24] <meshyf> Is there multimonitor support for unbuntu?
[03:24] <purduepepe> jrib that did not work???
[03:24] <Jack_Sparrow> thoreauputic: That much I know, It will not give permission
[03:24] <Howitzer> i have done that several times, thoreauputic
[03:24] <henk> meshyf yes
[03:25] <Templeir> meshyf, yes
[03:25] <adamant1988> Seveas, your fix for my sypantic broke it =\
[03:25] <rsk> ruskie@ruskie-desktop:~/fQuake-linux$ ./ezquake-gl.glx
[03:25] <rsk> ./ezquake-gl.glx: error while loading shared libraries: libpcre.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:25] <jrib> purduepepe: what didn't work?
[03:25] <Howitzer> it's like the Kubuntu cd isn't a real repo :/
[03:25] <meshyf> Henk can you point me in the right direction please?
[03:25] <rsk> what package do i need_
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: how did you add the CD ? Was it a desktop Cd or "alternate" ?
[03:25] <Templeir> please, link of sources ?
[03:25] <purduepepe> I typed !flash into the terminal
[03:25] <Seveas> !sources
[03:25] <Howitzer> no idea
[03:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:25] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: the desktop CD won't do it for you
[03:25] <john_66251> jrib - Could not open the file - The file you are trying to open is not a regular file
[03:25] <Seveas> adamant1988, ?
[03:25] <Howitzer> on 22 may, i just ordered some cd's
[03:26] <Howitzer> 1 kubuntu, 1 ubuntu
[03:26] <jrib> purduepepe: ubotu should have sent you a link to instructions for installing flash, !flash is a bot instruction
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: you have desktop CDs then
[03:26] <adamant1988> you told me to replace my sources list with that one from the paste-bin.  The paste bin one generated all kinds of errors =(
[03:26] <Howitzer> they're live-cd's with the install function
[03:26] <meshyf> Templeir: Maybe you know of what I seek? I'm looking for something like Ultramon for unbuntu :D
[03:26] <visik7> !usb
[03:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about usb
[03:26] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: you need an "alternate" CD to add to your sources
[03:26] <Seveas> adamant1988, you'll have to run apt-get update or hit the reload button in synaptic
[03:26] <adamant1988> neither worked.
[03:26] <Frankx> How do I add a chatroom that isn't on the list in xchat?  I'm trying to go here: http://www.hopeaz.com/Chat2.htm
[03:26] <jrib> john_66251: can you paste here exactly what you typed in your terminal?
[03:27] <Seveas> adamant1988, try apt-get update and pastebin all output
[03:27] <adamant1988> fortunately I found a .save copy of my sources list.
[03:27] <adamant1988> and I have it working now
[03:27] <Templeir> !sources
[03:27] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:27] <Howitzer> where do i get the alternate then thoreauputic ?
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: you need to download it, unfortunately
[03:27] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: unless you can find a supplier
[03:27] <rsk> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1198575
[03:27] <john_66251>  gedit /etc/apt/sourses.list
[03:28] <Howitzer> meh
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: what kind of Net connection do you have?
[03:28] <jrib> john_66251: you made a typo, it is: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list , that's 'sources' with a 'c'
[03:28] <Frankx> did someone answer me?  I'm confused
[03:28] <Howitzer> on this pc DSL which has a max of 80kb/s
[03:28] <Howitzer> the other one is currently cut off
[03:28] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: that's doable then
[03:29] <Howitzer> but why does ubuntu now offer 2 kinds of installer cd's?
[03:29] <Jack_Sparrow> Can anyone tell my whey a fresh install of Ub will not let me create a folder on my own desktop?
[03:29] <rsk> what packages comes with libpcre.so.0 ?
[03:29] <jrib> rsk: packages.ubuntu.com can let you search for that
[03:30] <seraphim> because the installer on the new desktop-cd is much easyer than the old one (which is now the alternate cd)
[03:30] <Howitzer> i found the old one a lot easier :/
[03:30] <thoreauputic> Howitzer: http://www.ubuntu.com/download  <-- choose a mirror and d/l the alternate CD for kubuntu or whatever, or (simpler) just install the kubuntu-desktop package
[03:30] <Frankx> I have same problem Jack_Sparrow.  I ended up using "Add Launcher" with a right click
[03:30] <Howitzer> the new one kind of gives all partitions the wrong numbers
[03:30] <rsk> jrib, it didnt findy anything there
[03:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Frankx: Same error
[03:30] <ballessay> Jack_Sparrow: looks like the owner of your Desktop-folder is root...
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Frankx: Same error trying to create launcher
[03:31] <rsk> jrib, i dont hope ubuntu dont ship with a package required by my only game i play..
[03:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ballessay: and it will not let me change it with sudo
[03:32] <Frankx> Jack_Sparrow, I then went to the "command" section and added the appropriate script (i.e. nautilus) and filled out the rest of the stuff
[03:32] <seraphim> i think the desktop-cd is only for completely fresh installs...i prefer the altenate-cd too ;) but for someone who never touched linux it is easyer to install that way. 6 short steps and done.
[03:32] <jrib> rsk: libpcre3 ships that .so although it isn't named like that
[03:32] <jrib> s/ships/contains
[03:32] <Jack_Sparrow> The first install went great, why is this one hosed up
[03:32] <Howitzer> hda1 is actually hda2 according to qtparted, hda3 was swap in fstab
[03:32] <Frankx> How do I use xchat to connect to http://www.hopeaz.com/Chat2.htm???
[03:33] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: pastebin the command you entered as well as the output, with 'sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/Desktop
[03:33] <jrib> '
[03:33] <rsk> jrib, i have libprec3 installed
[03:33] <rsk> jrib, do i need to reboot?
[03:33] <Howitzer> Frankx: it's a webbased irc applet
[03:33] <Howitzer> not sure if it's an irc server on its own
[03:33] <jrib> rsk: you should then have usr/lib/libpcre.so.3 as well as usr/lib/libpcre.so.3.12.0 , maybe you can try making a symlink with the name of the library your program wants, but no promises
[03:33] <Frankx> Does that mean I'm SOL Howitzer?
[03:34] <Howitzer> SOL?
[03:34] <Raito> How do you boot up ubuntu in command line mode?
[03:34] <john_66251> ok - I got a page with what appears to be a list of websites - so I go there and I can find the accounting package?
[03:34] <Frankx> Howitzer.... he he he... it aint gonna work
[03:34] <Howitzer> unless you find out if it resides on a server
[03:34] <Jack_Sparrow> It says changing ownership of xxx is not permitted
[03:34] <jrib> john_66251: ok do this in a terminal: 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' without the quotes.  Then go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ and paste the contents of the /etc/apt/sources.list file on that site.  After you post, copy the URL and paste it here for us to see
[03:35] <jrib> Jack_Sparrow: can you actually pastebin it?
[03:35] <thoreauputic> john_66251: please read the URLs - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[03:35] <Frankx> how would I find that Howitzer?
[03:35] <Jack_Sparrow> It wont paste , you mean type it all into pastebin
[03:35] <Howitzer> doesn't it say it when you connect?
[03:36] <thoreauputic> john_66251: this isn't windows - you don't need to d/l stuff the way you used to - the package manager does it for you
[03:36] <john_66251> thor - I don't have time to read anything!!!!!!
[03:36] <Howitzer> i can't check it out myself because i'm on XP and i can't install the java applet without admin access
[03:36] <Frankx> Unfortunately it crashes due to Java problem Howitzer
[03:36] <HiP_P> !xvid
[03:36] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:36] <thoreauputic> john_66251: then please stop asking for help - we have told you repeatedly what to do and you refuse to listen
[03:37] <Frankx> I'm trying to use xchat to circumvent Java problem Howitzer
[03:37] <thoreauputic> !attitude
[03:37] <Jack_Sparrow> john_66251:  If you dont want to read then maybe Windows IS for you.
[03:37] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[03:37] <charlieblue> cntb: re
[03:37] <Howitzer> you don't have time to read anything, but you do have time to spam around?
[03:37] <cntb> charlieblue:
[03:37] <inade> Is there a URL for the Dapper bugs? I have been looking for the last 10 minutes and it's hard to navigate the Ubuntu Web site.
[03:37] <Kibou> easy now..
[03:38] <gumpish> Using Drake PPC, can someone point me to documentation on using yaboot to change kernel arguments?
[03:38] <inade> I am looking for info on a known issue with 64 bit lan not recognized after a windows boot.
[03:39] <cntb> charlieblue:
[03:39] <charlieblue> cntb: yes?
[03:39] <cntb> no PM  from u
[03:39] <Raito> How do you do a console login in ubuntu >_>
[03:39] <charlieblue> cntb: come to channel #cbcb
[03:40] <charlieblue> cntb: do "/join #cbcb"
[03:40] <charlieblue> without "
[03:40] <root__> Hi !
[03:40] <cntb> ok
[03:40] <Ekumba> hi
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> ballessay:  sorry it took so long to do pastebin.. It was my first time and just took a little longer than I expected
[03:41] <mc__> WooD, dont use IRC as Root!
[03:41] <gore_> does anyone know of a site that offers free virtual hosting
[03:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Waiting for pastebin to accept
[03:41] <WooD> mc__: i know but im stuck right now really stuck
[03:41] <gore_> like gore.website.com pointed to my ip
[03:41] <mc__> WooD, you can create a new user with adduser
[03:42] <Ekumba> i have a problem with a codec.i've downloaded a video file with die extension divx.my totem player doens't play the file.what to do?
[03:42] <erUSUL> !codecs
[03:42] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:43] <Kibou> gore_: like dyndns.org ?
[03:43] <Raito> Ekumba: To solve all codec problems download the package 'vlc vlc-plugin-esd'
[03:43] <gore_> exactly like that
[03:43] <gore_> =P
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chown jack:jack /home/jack/Desktop
[03:43] <Jack_Sparrow> chown: changing ownership of `/home/jack/Desktop': Operation not permitted
[03:43] <charlieblue> cntb: thx
[03:43] <Ekumba> thank u very much
[03:43] <MetaMorfoziS> !swiftfox
[03:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about swiftfox
[03:43] <gumpish> Is there a comprehensive list of kernel arguments somewhere?
[03:44] <Raito> How do you boot up ubuntu in console mode?
[03:44] <gore_> kibou: do they have a few domains to choose from?
[03:44] <engos> howto add portugues-eng eng-portigues dictionaries to Gnome Dictionary?
[03:44] <POVaddct> gumpish: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
[03:44] <Kibou> yep
[03:44] <Jack_Sparrow> ballessay:  did that help .. And sorry all for the paste but pastebin is messed up at the moment
[03:44] <gumpish> awesome
[03:45] <engos> *portuguese-eng eng-portuguese
[03:45] <cntb> sorry charlieblue go again to #cbcb PM it again
[03:46] <cntb> copy paste  did not work
[03:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Can anyone tell my whey a fresh install of Ub will not let me create a folder on my own desktop?
[03:46] <Bizzaro1> hello
[03:46] <charlieblue> cntb: come again to #cbcb
[03:46] <Bizzaro1> can anyone help me
[03:47] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: what does  ls -ld /home say ?
[03:47] <Cyorxamp> Jack_Sparrow - is your /home on the same partition as everything else?
[03:47] <cntb> yeah
[03:47] <charlieblue> cntb: im there
[03:47] <MetaMorfoziS> !flash
[03:47] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:47] <inade> !bugs
[03:47] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> jack@jack-desktop:~$ ls -ld /home
[03:48] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-06-29 21:52 /home
[03:48] <Bizzaro1> hello i need help with the live cd
[03:48] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: and ls -ld /home/jack  ?
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> jack@jack-desktop:~$ ls -ld /home
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-06-29 21:52 /home
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> sorry
[03:49] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 20 jack jack 4096 2006-06-30 06:25 /home/jack
[03:49] <AlexC> Hey
[03:49] <AlexC> How do I start/restart/stop a mysql server in ubuntu?
[03:49] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: all looks normal...
[03:50] <ballessay> AlexC look in /etc/init.d
[03:50] <engos> can any one halp me to add a dictonary on Gnome Dictonary?
[03:50] <ccooke> AlexC: From the command line, you type: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start (or 'stop' or 'restart')
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: ls -ld /home/jack/Desktop  ?
[03:50] <Bizzaro1> when i go to start ubuntu from the live cd it tells me that it cant boot it
[03:50] <gnomefreak> !mysql > AlexC
[03:50] <sorush20> I wan to be able to copy and entire partitions (root) to a new partition on a different hdd. I only want to copy the data from the old partition to the new including the MBR and Grub.
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> Right click on desktop try to create folder says I dont have permission
[03:50] <gnomefreak> AlexC: your pm will have the site for the info
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> what is the best flashplayer?
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> is tehre any that supports flash 8 or 9?
[03:50] <sorush20> The Grub does need to be edited to find the new root partition..
[03:50] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: can you give me the last one I asked?
[03:50] <AlexC> gnomefreak, That's the guide im following atm
[03:50] <ballessay> sorush20: dd is your friend
[03:50] <gnomefreak> flashplugin-nonfree
[03:50] <MetaMorfoziS> or is there anything that works?
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> I did
[03:50] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 20 jack jack 4096 2006-06-30 06:25 /home/jack
[03:51] <ccooke> AlexC: To make it start on bootup, you can type 'sudo update-rc.d mysql defaults' or use System -> Administration -> Services
[03:51] <sorush20> ballessay
[03:51] <AlexC> gnomefreak, but when I do sudo mysql -u root it says can't connect to database
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> i want an opensource version of this crap
[03:51] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: nothing in ubuntu supports 8 or 9
[03:51] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: no,  ls -ld /home/jack/Desktop
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> :(
[03:51] <gnomefreak> MetaMorfoziS: gplflash but its eh my understanding is it doesnt work all that good
[03:51] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 /home/jack/Desktop
[03:52] <thoreauputic> sudo chown jack:jack /home/jack/Desktop
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: that's your problem
[03:52] <ballessay> *lol* the third try
[03:52] <meshyf> Anyone know a good way to enable a higher resolution? I know my video card supports higher, as does my monitor.
[03:52] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: it's owned by root for some reason
[03:52] <AlexC> f*** sake why will mysql never work in linux! grrr, 2 days now and a re-install of ubuntu because it decided to uninstall all ubuntu critical files in the process
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> Operation NOT permitte
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> dd
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: of course it is - did you use sudo ?
[03:53] <Constantinka> how can I install GoogleEarth on Ubuntu 6.06?
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> drwxr-xr-x 18 root root 16384 1969-12-31 16:00 /home/jack/Desktop
[03:53] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow:   sudo chown jack:jack /home/jack/Desktop
[03:53] <Jack_Sparrow> darn
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Constantinka: grab the bin file from googleearth
[03:53] <hctibtipots> how do you change the ports for bittorrent?
[03:53] <Constantinka> yes I have it
[03:54] <Schalke1> is it possible to play a video in the tty?
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jack@jack-desktop:~$ sudo chown jack:jack /home/jack/Desktop
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Password:
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> chown: changing ownership of `/home/jack/Desktop': Operation not permitted
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Constantinka: sh file.bin
[03:54] <Bizzaro1> how do i get ubuntu to boot from the live cd
[03:54] <thoreauputic> Jack_Sparrow: bizarre
[03:54] <Schalke1> Bizzaro1: put the cd in, restart your computer
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: make sure your bios are set to boot from cd
[03:54] <XaviusShadow> If I installed ubuntu onto a drive and then popped that drive into another comp would there be issues?
[03:54] <Bizzaro1> i did that
[03:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzaro1:  Usually hit delete on power up go into bios and set boot order
[03:54] <Schalke1> Bizzaro1: and?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: is there an error? what is the problem?
[03:54] <Bizzaro1> when go to start it it tells me that it cannot boot from cd
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: did you burn it as an iso?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizarro, Not from windows
[03:55] <Bizzaro1> yes
[03:55] <hctibtipots> how can you change the ports for bittorrent?
[03:55] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: did you check the md5sum?
[03:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Reboot with cd in the drive
[03:55] <Bizzaro1> i dont know how  to do that gnome
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: is the file still saved on pc?
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizarro, exactly how are you trying to run the cd
[03:56] <gnomefreak> !verify > Bizzaro1
[03:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about verify
[03:56] <Bizzaro1> yes
[03:56] <gnomefreak> grrrrrr ubotu
[03:56] <Jack_Sparrow> You said click on start, indicating you were trying to run it from windows
[03:56] <gnomefreak> Bizzaro1: type in terminal md5sum file.iso
[03:56] <Bizzaro1> no
[03:57] <Ro1> for some odd reason my icons of programs i just stareted running right now are not showing up in the tray...but others are still there such as netowkr and sound
[03:57] <Bizzaro1> where gnome
[03:57] <ZrisCha> Does anyone know about installing projectM on a powerpc architecture box
[03:57] <frank_b> how can I know which character set I'm using in ubuntu?
[03:58] <Schalke1> frank_b: in what application? ubuntu uses unicode natively.
[03:58] <Ro1> ?
[03:59] <gumpish> How the fsck do I boot into single user mode on PPC Drake?
[03:59] <frank_b> Schalke1, oh. in every... what xchat for example uses as "system default"
[03:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzaro1:  what happens when you insert cd into the drive and power up?
[03:59] <mc__> gumpish, sudo init 1
[03:59] <raphink> hey :)
[03:59] <Schalke1> frank_b: all ubuntu applications should use unicode unless you specify otherwise.
[03:59] <Bizzaro1> it goes to the ubuntu screen
[03:59] <gumpish> mc__: that'd be great, if I could login...
[04:00] <raphink> does anyone know if there's a way to recursively list all the files symlinking to a file ?
[04:00] <Bizzaro1> it says i can start ubuntu or install it
[04:00] <frank_b> Schalke1, I can write portuguese letters in a terminal for example
[04:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ANd when you click on install
[04:00] <raphink> i.e. if I want to remove a fille _and_ all the files linking to it, is there a tool for that?
[04:00] <Bizzaro1> memory test
[04:00] <ZrisCha> So nobody has any idea how to install projectm on a ppc machine?
[04:00] <Schalke1> frank_b: ooooh! :o i never tried it in the terminal lol
[04:00] <Bizzaro1> it says it cannot boot from cd and reboots my pc
[04:00] <hctibtipots> how do you change the ports for bittorrent?
[04:01] <serveri> What program you know that administrate MySQL? What it's name in synaptic?
[04:01] <Schalke1> *attempts to drag chinese letter into terminal*
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> So the cd is bad...
[04:01] <frank_b> Schalke1, and I chose a portuguese keyboard... am I using unicode as "system default"?
[04:01] <Bizzaro1> ok
[04:01] <Bizzaro1> so i just got a bad download
[04:01] <Jack_Sparrow> You need to check the md5 chacksum or just burn another.
[04:01] <serveri> What program you know that administrate MySQL? What it's name in synaptic?
[04:01] <frank_b> Shadowline, "the" terminal
[04:01] <Inferus> I've install a distro of linux, and when I try to boot up I get grub error 18, which is because the boot partition is in the wrong place or something
 how do i go about creating a /boot partition please
[04:01] <Inferus> i installed ubuntu ^^
[04:01] <Bizzaro1> how do i check that
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Are you in windows now?
[04:02] <Bizzaro1> yes
[04:02] <khnh> lspci does not list my wireless card, what can I do to make it recognized
[04:02] <frank_b> Schalke1, nevermind
[04:02] <Schalke1> frank_b: lol you can put portugese characters in the terminal! :D choosing a portuguese keyboard will only make it expect your keyboard to be a portuegese one. all characters are translated to unicode in the end.
[04:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Bizzaro1: What do use to burn a disc
[04:02] <serveri> Is there standart installation for MySQL 5.0 in Ubuntu?
[04:02] <Schalke1> frank_b: okay
[04:03] <Bizzaro1> nero
[04:03] <Dulcika> hi
[04:03] <serveri> hi
[04:03] <Schalke1> Dulcika: hi
[04:03] <Schalke1> serveri: hi
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> I thought nero had an option to verify checksum, I am in Ub so I cant walk you through that
[04:03] <hctibtipots> any one wanna help me out???
[04:03] <Dulcika> can you tell me an stand-alone (binary) mail server compatible with ubuntu 6.06?
[04:03] <Bizzaro1> ok well thank u
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> brb
[04:03] <Jack_Sparrow> booting to xp
[04:04] <hctibtipots> how do you change the ports for bittorrent?
[04:05] <serveri> Schalke1, hi
[04:05] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: depends - are you using a router ? If so, you forward the ports in the router
[04:05] <serveri> Schalke1, I mean, you helped me last week?
[04:06] <Schalke1> serveri: i did?
[04:06] <AlexC> When ever I go to localhost/index.php it always tries to download the file, instead of parsing and displaying it
[04:06] <hctibtipots> the router is set for the port i wanna use, but i am not owner of the download.py to change the ports
[04:06] <khnh> lspci does not list my wireless card, what can I do to make it showed up
[04:06] <serveri> Schalke1, I forgot nick who helped me. Sorry.
[04:06] <ardchoille> AlexC: you probably don't have php installed correctly
[04:06] <QRZ> AlexC:  Install php and then restart apache.
[04:06] <AlexC> ardchoille, ahhh good, yet another problem with this lamp thing ><
[04:06] <serveri> Ok, maybe you help me today?
[04:06] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: which bittorent client are you using? Usually you change stuff in the prefs for the client
[04:07] <Jack_Smirnoff> Bizzaro1: http://www.nero.com/nero6/en/Nero_MD5_Verifier.html
[04:07] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: don't /msg without asking, please
[04:07] <thoreauputic> !msg
[04:07] <hctibtipots> i have bittornado installed but cant run it
[04:07] <ubotu> Please ask your messages in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[04:07] <AlexC> ardchoille, QRZ still no luck
[04:08] <Bizzaro1> ok jack i got that
[04:08] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: I don't use bittornado - maybe someone else will know
[04:08] <hctibtipots> what do you use???
[04:08] <Schalke1> !lamp
[04:08] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:08] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: mostly azureus
[04:08] <Jack_Smirnoff> I am going to run... going to try fresh install, something isnt right with this one...
[04:09] <Schalke1> AlexC: are you following that guide?
[04:09] <hctibtipots> ok i tried installing that, the splash screen comes up and then nothing after that
[04:09] <AlexC> Schalke1, I've followed about every guide in the planet to get MySQL/PHP/Apache working. None of them work
[04:09] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: did you install sun java ?
[04:10] <hctibtipots> no, dont know how.....
[04:10] <thoreauputic> !java
[04:10] <hctibtipots> im a retarted noob
[04:10] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[04:10] <Bizzaro1> gonna try again
[04:10] <thoreauputic> hctibtipots: install sun-java5-jre from the multiverse repo, then run  sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:11] <hctibtipots>  Couldn't find package sun-java5-bin
[04:11] <ardchoille> thoreauputic: thank you for that. that solves a problem for me too :)
[04:11] <ardchoille> hctibtipots: it's sun-java5-jre
[04:11] <thoreauputic> !repos > hctibtipots
[04:12] <khnh> lspci does not list my build-in wireless LAN antenna, what can I do to make it showed up
[04:12] <AlexC> Does anyone know how to get PHP/MySQL/Apache _working_ without it fecking something up, 2 days to install PHP/MySQL/Apache is stupid.
[04:12] <thoreauputic> !lamp
[04:12] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:12] <AlexC> thoreauputic, that's the guide i'm following, which just does not work.
[04:13] <thoreauputic> AlexC: "doesn't work" in what way ?
[04:13] <thoreauputic> !doesn't work
[04:13] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[04:14] <Schalke1> khnh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[04:14] <AlexC> thoreauputic, MySQL connection errors, mysql install errors, php not parsing, apache not having correct config files, MySQL UNINSTALLING ubuntu, forcing me to re-install ubuntu!! That's why it _doesn't work)
[04:15] <thoreauputic> AlexC: woah - is this a fresh dapper install ?
[04:15] <AlexC> thoreauputic, Yes.
[04:15] <ardchoille> AlexC: that's the guide I used and I was amazed at how simple and quick the install was. I installed php4, though since it's more common still
[04:15] <AlexC> ardchoille, i've treid php 4 and 4
[04:15] <AlexC> 4 and 5*
[04:15] <serveri> How to use *.deb package? I converted MySQL-5.0.rpm to mysql-5.0.deb package, now I want to install it, but how?
[04:15] <loserboy> hey can somone help me with themes
[04:15] <thoreauputic> AlexC: well, something weird there .... Others have done it apparently
[04:16] <jrib> serveri: mysql 5 is in the repositories, just use synaptic
[04:16] <gnomefreak> loserboy: what about them
[04:16] <Schalke1> serveri: double click on it should open a dialogure witha 'install package' buttom
[04:16] <Schalke1> button*
[04:16] <AlexC> thoreauputic, lucky =) I've followed loads of guides now and non work, well I can get PHP/Apache workign and that's about it. MySQL just doesn't like me
[04:16] <serveri> thereis only mysql 4.1
[04:16] <Cyorxamp> !computers
[04:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[04:16] <thoreauputic> AlexC: 'tis a mystery ;)
[04:16] <jrib> serveri: are you using dapper?
[04:16] <MarcN> AlexC:  you still can't get mysql working?
[04:16] <loserboy> well if I want to use the theme manager to install them what themes do i look for the ones for meta or gtk2
[04:16] <QRZ> AlexC:  Do you have MySQL enabled in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled?
[04:16] <AlexC> thoreauputic, =\ I need it for work :( MarcN no, not at all. MySQL even uninstalled Ubuntu forcing me to format and re-install
[04:17] <serveri> what is drapper?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: you were banned yesterday for playing with the bot lets not do it again today
[04:17] <Cyorxamp> gnomefreak: Oh lets!
[04:17] <jrib> serveri: it's a version of ubuntu.  What version are you using?
[04:17] <thoreauputic> AlexC: erm - uninstalled ubuntu? Not likely - what do you really mean?
[04:17] <MarcN> AlexC: you must have screwed something else up.  Mysql has nothing to with messing up ubuntu install.
[04:17] <Schalke1> AlexC: is absolutely everything fails, you can always try XAMPP, the extract-and-run websever.
[04:18] <Schalke1> is*
[04:18] <Schalke1> if*
[04:18] <serveri> how can I know what version I'm using?
[04:18] <ardchoille> gnomefreak: there should be a rule about disallowing infants in #ubuntu
[04:18] <Schalke1> serveri: of ubuntu?
[04:18] <jrib> serveri: you can check your version by running this command in a terminal: lsb_release -c
[04:18] <thoreauputic> serveri: lsb_release -a
[04:18] <AlexC> thoreauputic, as in I went downstairs while I did sudo aptitude remove mysql-server ... came back up and it was uninstalling amsn,bmp,gaim,nautilis,firefox,fglrx.....
[04:18] <cute_bettong> hi i just installed my new (used) ati video card 0000:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE]  and now none of my 3d screensavers work is there something i can do? my old card was an nvidia
[04:18] <Brunno> im running foresight linux as a guest os using vmware player in ubuntu as the host os, how can i exchange files between them ? id like to copy something from the guest to the host..
[04:18] <serveri> Codename: breezy
[04:18] <Inferus> Brunno could transfer over ssh
[04:19] <Inferus> get winSCP
[04:19] <thoreauputic> AlexC: *cough* pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[04:19] <Schalke1> ubotu tell cute_bettong about binary-driver
[04:19] <AlexC> ok,
[04:19] <jrib> serveri: ok, that's why mysql5 is not available to you in the repositories.  You could upgrade to dapper, it's the latest stable release of ubutnu
[04:19] <Cyorxamp> Hey!
[04:19] <jrib> ubuntu even
[04:19] <Brunno> Inferus, no ctrl+c ctrl+v way ?
[04:19] <hctibtipots> i cant get java installed
[04:19] <jrib> !java > hctibtipots
[04:19] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: you need to install the driver. there is a nice howto in the ubuntu wiki.
[04:19] <cute_bettong> Schalke1,  it diden't say anyhting to me can i get the driver from the repos?
[04:19] <Inferus> Brunno that way is really easy, it will connect like an ftp
[04:19] <MarcN> AlexC: I just did an 'sudo apt-get remove mysql-server' and it asked me to uninstall mysql-server, nothing else.  What package manager did you use?"
[04:19] <Cyorxamp> !foss
[04:19] <serveri> Yes, on first load I had upgrade to drapper
[04:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about foss
[04:19] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: yes you can, just a second...
[04:19] <Inferus> the other way is to set up samba shares on the server, which is REALLY hard
[04:20] <Brunno> Inferus, how do i do it ?
[04:20] <Cyorxamp> That one gnomefreak should be added at least
[04:20] <jrib> serveri: what do you mean?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Cyorxamp: stop it now.
[04:20] <AlexC> MarcN, I just use apt-get or aptitude
[04:20] <Cyorxamp> Alot of people could get confused by FOSS
[04:20] <ubuntupalmos> hi, i'm having a problem. when i turn on my computer, it boots through all of the kernel and begins to load the gui. however, when it gets to the step whenthe mouse appears, the monitor blanks out and says "out of range" what is the problem, and is it fixable?
[04:20] <Cyorxamp> thoreauputic - shut your whole, i'm making a valid point
[04:20] <AlexC> thoreauputic, http://pastebin.ca/75729
[04:20] <gnomefreak> done
[04:20] <ardchoille> lol
[04:20] <gnomefreak> brb
[04:20] <hctibtipots> i tried that and sed couldnt find package
[04:20] <thoreauputic> heh
[04:20] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[04:20] <MarcN> AlexC: I bet you used aptitude, had some other packages selected to remove and hit the 'do it' before reading what it was intending to do.
[04:21] <jrib> hctibtipots: did you enable multiverse?
[04:21] <serveri> I had a window above clock, there was a text "Upgrade available", I accepted this dialog and upgraded
[04:21] <ubuntupalmos>  hi, i'm having a problem. when i turn on my computer, it boots through all of the kernel and begins to load the gui. however, when it gets to the step whenthe mouse appears, the monitor blanks out and says "out of range" what is the problem, and is it fixable?
[04:21] <ardchoille> MarcN: been there, done that :)
[04:21] <AlexC> MarcN, maybe I did blindly hit enter/yes - but why would it select all of those extra files in the first place?
[04:21] <jrib> serveri: you are still running breezy though.  I'll send you upgrade instructions to get to dapper
[04:21] <jrib> !upgrade > serveri
[04:22] <hctibtipots> jrib: how and what is that???
[04:22] <MarcN> AlexC: maybe you blindly clicked on removing something and didn't read what it was going to do!
[04:22] <Bass> my screen resolution wont change
[04:22] <cute_bettong> Schalke1, mines a 7000VE will this still work it says 9500 and up will this still work for me?
[04:22] <AlexC> MarcN, I wasn't using Synaptic...there was nothing to click - just typing
[04:22] <ubuntupalmos> can somebody help me!?  hi, i'm having a problem. when i turn on my computer, it boots through all of the kernel and begins to load the gui. however, when it gets to the step whenthe mouse appears, the monitor blanks out and says "out of range" what is the problem, and is it fixable?
[04:22] <serveri> Why I must upgrade?
[04:22] <ardchoille> !resolution > Bass
[04:22] <SonicChao> serveri, because you should.
[04:23] <jrib> serveri: if you want to use mysql5 on ubuntu, it is only available on dapper afaik
[04:23] <SonicChao> serveri, Dapper is better than Breezy
[04:23] <MarcN> AlexC: then I should have said 'pressed return without reading what it intended to do'.   Seems that there is some problem at the end of the keyboard....
[04:23] <Bass> ardchoille: i fixed it ages ago, it just wont change now =S it did yesterday
[04:23] <jrib> !multiverse > hctibtipots
[04:23] <SonicChao> serveri, that's all there really is too say
[04:23] <ubuntupalmos> what does, "out of range" mean?
[04:23] <KageSenshi> hello .. anyone know any program that can catch and display 'wall' or 'write' announcements/messages on GNOME?? ... i know KDE has Kwrited ... any alternative or GNOME??
[04:23] <dejx> apt-get install ... what to write here to install all complies.
[04:23] <dejx> compilers...
[04:23] <AlexC> MarcN, hehe =)
[04:23] <serveri> I executed `gksudo "update-manager -d"` and I have a message "Your system is up to date"
[04:24] <ardchoille> Bass: did you make any changes to any video crivers?
[04:24] <jrib> !b-e > dejx
[04:24] <Bass> ardchoille: erm, nope, installed mplayer
[04:24] <SonicChao> serveri, than you aren't using breezy?
[04:24] <scorchblade> Q:  installed using the alternate .iso to fill the entire 9GB drive.  now grub comes up with "error 18".  suggestions?
[04:24] <ubuntupalmos> can someone help me?????????????????????  hi, i'm having a problem. when i turn on my computer, it boots through all of the kernel and begins to load the gui. however, when it gets to the step whenthe mouse appears, the monitor blanks out and says "out of range" what is the problem, and is it fixable?
[04:25] <serveri> Now I dont know what I'm using
[04:25] <Bass> ardchoille: ill just try restarting gdm
[04:25] <jrib> dejx: build-essential is the name of the package you want
[04:25] <jrib> serveri: currently, you have breezy
[04:25] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: yes it will work, according to this page (http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R6.7.0/doc/radeon.4.html) the 7000VE is under the R100 series, which is supported by the legacy ati driver.
[04:25] <hctibtipots> how to i know if i got java installed properly???
[04:25] <dejx> build-essential
[04:25] <chrissturm> is there an estimate when xorg 7.1 will land in edgy?
[04:25] <SonicChao> jrib, it said his system was up-to-date
[04:25] <scorchblade> ubuntupalmos: boot in rescue mode and edit your xorg.conf file to use a video mode your monitor supports
[04:25] <serveri> but "My system is up to date"
[04:25] <dejx> yes... thanks:D you told it already:D
[04:25] <ardchoille> hctibtipots: try to run azureus now
[04:25] <cute_bettong> Schalke1, so i just use the first link and i am good to go? ^_^
[04:25] <ubuntupalmos> scorchblade: how do i boot into rescue mode?
[04:25] <AlexC> thoreauputic, ok here goes, let's remove all lamp packages and try again....ffs
[04:26] <Ro1> say i want to make a script to do something in a terminal....what do i put the file ending as
[04:26] <jrib> serveri: oh, I see, try to use my name in the front of your messages or I'll miss what you say.  Can you put /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin?
[04:26] <jrib> SonicChao: thanks
[04:26] <cmk> C MOI
[04:26] <thoreauputic> AlexC: sorry - distracted by a troll problem
[04:26] <scorchblade> palmos: do you have your install CD?
[04:26] <AlexC> thoreauputic, hehe no probs
[04:26] <ubuntupalmos> scorchblade: yes i do
[04:26] <ardchoille> roland-erau: .sh
[04:26] <hctibtipots> i  did and the slash screen came up and then i got a box in the rite hand corner saying warning
[04:26] <serveri> "Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 TLS"
[04:26] <cmk> QUI PARLE FRANCAIS
[04:26] <Ro1> say i want to make a script to do something in a terminal....what do i put the file ending as
[04:26] <cute_bettong> brb gonna test this ^_^
[04:26] <thoreauputic> !fr
[04:26] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:26] <ardchoille> Ro1: .sh
[04:26] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI says R100 series will work under the driver, so yes.
[04:26] <SonicChao> serveri, that means it's working
[04:27] <scorchblade> at the screen where it asks for your selection, hit Esc key and then type rescue at the command line
[04:27] <serveri> It requires system reboot. It's ubnormally.
[04:27] <ardchoille> Ro1: you also need to: chmod u+x filename.sh
[04:27] <scorchblade> no suggestions on the grub error 18?
[04:27] <Ro1> ok thanks...one more question...i'm loging into a ssh server with the script...on the first line i have ssh -l xxxxxxx then it prompts me for a password, can i automatically put that paswd into the script so i dont need to write it
[04:27] <serveri> 13 minutes left
[04:27] <KageSenshi> :(
[04:27] <Jack_Sparrow> MAny thanks to all that tried to help, Reinstalling fixed everything, must have been 4th of July Gremlins in my PC.. Again, THANKS
[04:27] <SonicChao> serveri, when it says to reboot, REBOOT.
[04:28] <scorchblade> Ro1: you can use a preshared key to avoid passwords
[04:28] <floppyears_ecuad> hi
[04:28] <Ro1> thats the only way?
[04:28] <cmk> hi
[04:28] <ubuntupalmos> scorchblade: okay, i'm going to go try it. this works with ubuntu 5.04 correct?
[04:28] <scorchblade> no, that's one way
[04:28] <Ro1> is it easiest?
[04:28] <floppyears_ecuad> does ubuntu come with a paritioning and resizing tool for ntfs ?
[04:28] <cmk>  i m french
[04:28] <ardchoille> Ro1: I feel that putting the password in the script would be a security issue there
[04:28] <jrib> !fr > cmk
[04:28] <scorchblade> palmos: beats me.  don't see why not
[04:28] <cmk>  i don t speak english
[04:28] <Ro1> it wont...i have nothing to lose
[04:28] <serveri> What standart for Ubuntu package you know for administrative graphical interface for MySQL 5.0?
[04:29] <ubuntupalmos> scorchblade: ok, sounds good. i've been having a lot of troubles lately with ubuntu :(
 ok thanks...one more question...i'm loging into a ssh server with the script...on the first line i have ssh -l xxxxxxx then it prompts me for a password, can i automatically put that paswd into the script so i dont need to write it - not into the script, no. Look into public/private key authentication
[04:29] <cmk> qui parle un eu f
[04:29] <ubuntupalmos> brb
[04:29] <gore__> does anyone know about playing quicktime movies/
[04:29] <jrib> cmk: /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:29] <hctibtipots> how can you confirm java is installed?
[04:29] <gavinchappell> sorry, what scorchblade said, I missed that :)
[04:29] <SonicChao> !mov
[04:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about mov
[04:29] <jrib> hctibtipots: java -version
[04:29] <cmk> merci j rib comm on di en france merci
[04:29] <serveri> I need administrative GUI for MySQL 5.0, not phpmyadmin
[04:30] <hctibtipots> ok it sez i have 1.4.2
[04:30] <bit_doidao> does anyone installed the new skype?
[04:30] <Schalke1> SonicChao: if your trying to play a .mov file see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:30] <atlantian> hello guys
[04:31] <atlantian> anyone available with a question
[04:31] <Schalke1> atlantian: hello
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> ya
[04:31] <atlantian> i am using a router atm with 3 PC's
[04:31] <atlantian> works fine
[04:31] <atlantian> but
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I have lots of questions
[04:31] <SonicChao> Schalke1, I was trying to help gore
[04:31] <RadiantFire> Jack_Sparrow: have you fixed your grub yet?
[04:31] <atlantian> I want it so that everything goes thorugh my linux machine
[04:31] <atlantian> then
[04:31] <atlantian> my router
[04:31] <atlantian> as you see
[04:31] <jrib> !enter
[04:31] <SonicChao> STOP atlantian !
[04:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:31] <Schalke1> SonicChao: oh sry :D
[04:31] <atlantian> i have all system multi boot
[04:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Reinstalled this am but THANKS for trying
[04:31] <SonicChao> aLL IN ONE LINE!
[04:31] <atlantian> ok
[04:31] <atlantian> sorry
[04:31] <dejx> where's rc.local in ubuntu?
[04:32] <scorchblade> Q:  installed using the alternate .iso to fill the entire 9GB drive.  now grub comes up with "error 18".  suggestions?
[04:32] <RadiantFire> i'm not sure we even have an rc.loca
[04:32] <dejx> i know
[04:32] <SonicChao> atlantian, say it again, properly formatted this time.
[04:32] <dejx> its boot.neki
[04:32] <dejx> something
[04:32] <dejx> neki= something..:D
[04:32] <cmk> je voudrai faire partage ma passion pour les piercing
[04:32] <gnomefreak> !fr
[04:32] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:32] <SonicChao> Schalke1, I hate QuickTime XD
[04:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Who let the frogs in?
[04:32] <loserboy> gnomefreak, how do i install metacity themes
[04:33] <ubuntupalmos> is scorchedblade still here?
[04:33] <finalbeta> !rar
[04:33] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:33] <atlantian> I would like everything to go to my linux machine - server then to my router. For security as I do not want it going from my windows machine straight to the internet, SO my linux machine is like the point in which everything has to pass, so i could also install SNORT there maybe, I have 2 network cards in server and an extra GB SWitch lying around
[04:33] <gnomefreak> loserboy: gnome-look.org
[04:33] <atlantian> WHat would be the solution
[04:33] <cntb> cmk english is the international pralance for computers
[04:33] <ardchoille> loserboy: try ##gnome
[04:33] <loserboy> k
[04:33] <loserboy> thanks
[04:33] <Schalke1> loserboy: system -> prefrences -> themes -> install theme
[04:33] <hctibtipots> azureus is froze with that warning screen in the bottom rite hand corner....how do i get rid of that???
[04:33] <loserboy> schalkel, that only seems to work for some
[04:33] <RadiantFire> loserboy: you can also drag-n-drop onto the theme manager
[04:34] <Stormx2> Hi everyone
[04:34] <ubuntupalmos> i'm in rescue mode, what command do i type to get to my xorg.conf file?
[04:34] <ardchoille> Stormx2: hi
[04:34] <loserboy> they say invalid format on a bunch of the cooler ones
[04:34] <SonicChao> Hi Stormx2 what seems to be the problem?
[04:34] <RadiantFire> ubuntupalmos: its at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:34] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, very punchy, need sleep, sex or coffee. First install this AM was very wierd. Now things are fine. Thanks all who tried to help.  It wasnt you it was a ghost in the machine...
[04:34] <ubuntupalmos> radiantfire: thanks
[04:34] <MetaMorfoziS> is there any way to resize partitions?
[04:35] <SonicChao> yes MetaMorfoziS
[04:35] <RadiantFire> MetaMorfoziS: yes
[04:35] <Schalke1> atlantian: you COULD instead connect all the computers to a switch, then your linux computer to the internet (via the router?) and the configure your linux computer to act as a router
[04:35] <atlantian> any solution for what i said?
[04:35] <MetaMorfoziS>  ! something howto?
[04:35] <SonicChao> atlantian, connect the router to the computer with an ethernet cable
[04:36] <Schalke1> atlantian: i am pretty sure there is software avaliable to make a computer act as a router
[04:36] <SonicChao> atlantian, if you have access to the internet you can also download "Network Manager" from Add/Remove Programs
[04:36] <atlantian> THe router is switc/adsl/router in one yeah, I would still need to use it for the adsl and would still like to use all the functions, I would just like the first place to go to be the linux server then the router
[04:36] <RadiantFire> Schalke1: uh, yeah, its called iptables
[04:36] <SonicChao> Schalke1, oh that was the problem?
[04:36] <Stormx2> SonicChao: No problem just saying hi really :P
[04:36] <RadiantFire> Schalke1: it should already be installed
[04:36] <SonicChao> Stormx2, this is a support channel, saying "hi" and "chatting" is for #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:37] <Stormx2> SonicChao: I've never seen you around here in the 12 months I've been coming to the channel and greating people.
[04:37] <cntb> bye
[04:37] <ubuntupalmos> i'm in rescue mode, and i've tried typing in gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf and it has given me the error "Gtk. warning cannot open display". what do i need to do to open up the file 'xorg.conf' to edit it in rescue mode. also, i am using ubuntu 5.04
[04:37] <AlexC> thoreauputic, Well geee, now MySQL wont uninstall ahahah this just gets better doesn't it.
[04:37] <Stormx2> AlexC: sudo apt-get remove mysql not working?
[04:38] <cntb> bye charlieblue
[04:38] <Fritz_> Hi guys, I'm trying to connect an iPAQ HP1910 to my PC with Ubuntu Dapper
[04:38] <SonicChao> Stormx2, it's slightly possible I'm new isn't it?
[04:38] <Stormx2> ubuntupalmos: Try using another editor, or try using sudo
[04:38] <AlexC> Stormx2, just gives me a load of errors saying cannot stop MySQL server then dpkg erros then no such file or directories
[04:38] <cntb> np Fritz
[04:38] <[Ex0r] > Anyone know how you change from the default postfix MTA ?
[04:38] <Subhuman> ubuntupalmos, itz because rescue mode has no x, try "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf" instead
[04:38] <cntb> both linux or one is windows
[04:38] <nitche> whats the easiest way to play divX movies on an ubuntu box :) this maybe a dumb question, but im sure im not the only one :S
[04:38] <Stormx2> AlexC: Oh dear! Open up synaptic, check if you have any broken packages
[04:39] <atlantian> THis brings me to another question and the point to why I am doing this, if an attacker scans my ISP address, then are looking at the router and not the computer I am using on the local lan,? THis is one thing i am tyring to understand, I know the purpose of a router, link between public and local side in this case, but when you dont use a router your computer is the IP address but when using a router, the router is the public address?
[04:39] <[Ex0r] > ubotu, tell nitche about restricted
[04:39] <Fritz_> the iPAQ is windows
[04:39] <ex0s^> Hello, i want to autostart Freevo in ubuntu, how to do that? some one plz?
[04:39] <scorchblade> palmos, there's always vi
[04:39] <[Ex0r] > !restricted
[04:39] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <atlantian> Basically even if i am using windows, i would like an attacker only to see my linux box and not my windows as to protect me from exploits etc
[04:39] <nitche> [Ex0r] : kewl.. thanks
[04:39] <scorchblade> there's also an xorg config script.  I'm sorry, but I always forget its name
[04:40] <[Ex0r] > how do I change my default mail from postfix to something else ?
[04:40] <ex0s^> Hello, i want to autostart Freevo in ubuntu, how to do that? some one plz?
[04:40] <finalbeta> The rar sollution the wiki provides is faulty. It doesn't really work to unrar the latest builds
[04:40] <Stormx2> ex0s^: Go to System > Preferences > Session
[04:40] <ynef> ex0s^: what is freevo? is it a program you want to run in the background or is it something you want to start as soon as you log in?
[04:40] <Stormx2> ex0s^: Find out the command for running Freevo, and add it there.
[04:40] <MetaMorfoziS> so, my friends asked me, he want to resize the root fielsystem, is tehre any howto to do it?
[04:41] <AlexC> Stormx2, Will do, this really has fubar'd by Ubuntu
[04:41] <Subhuman> atlantian, if you get scanned, any forwarded ports will show up, otherwise the router will most likely filtered all ports and the scan will show no open ports ( and therfore much harder to crack)
[04:41] <Stormx2> MetaMorfoziS: I guess parted or qtparted
[04:41] <ccooke> MetaMorfoziS: that depends on his setup.
[04:41] <ex0s^> yes found it, really simple ;D thx
[04:41] <jrib> finalbeta: what solution in particular are you referring to?
[04:41] <ex0s^> ynef freevo is a HTCP mediacenter application
[04:41] <ccooke> MetaMorfoziS: if he uses LVM it's not *so* bad.
[04:41] <Subhuman> atlantian, if you just want your linux box to show, put it in a DMZ ( look at your router config/manual), then the scan will look like just that box is connected directly to the net
[04:41] <finalbeta> !rar
[04:41] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[04:41] <Stormx2> AlexC: Otherwise... I'm not sure. Try sudo apt-get update
[04:42] <jrib> finalbeta: yes, there is more than one solution there
[04:42] <hctibtipots> i cant azureus to run, any1 wanna help me out???
[04:42] <MetaMorfoziS> what is lvm?
[04:42] <Stormx2> hctibtipots: What java are you using?
[04:42] <atlantian> subhuman, One thing is I am paranoid about security since my credit card was maxed this is the reason, I want the linux box to be in like a DMZ i guess its called, so only that shows up as the IP address if i was ever targeted even if i am using windows on main PC to visit sites etc
[04:42] <Stormx2> hctibtipots: Theres actually a howto
[04:42] <RadiantFire> logicall volume management
[04:42] <RadiantFire> it allows you to use multiple drives as a single logical drive
[04:42] <hctibtipots> java version "1.4.2"
[04:42] <hctibtipots> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.1.0 (Ubuntu 4.1.0-1ubuntu8)
[04:42] <atlantian> Exploits are the main issue, a reverse shell being the main issue
[04:43] <atlantian> thats why i moved to the linux world
[04:43] <Stormx2> hctibtipots: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[04:43] <finalbeta> jrib, for rar I only see one. (for dapper)
[04:43] <Subhuman> atlantian, are you using a router? if so, do not forward any ports and then your basically invisible.
[04:43] <Stormx2> hctibtipots: You may also want to check the wiki page on Java, really you should be using Sun's Java
[04:43] <jrib> hctibtipots: what does 'update-java-alternatives -l' return?
[04:43] <atlantian> yes i am using a netgear firewall adsl router
[04:43] <finalbeta> jrib,  apt-get install unrar
[04:43] <lukketto> (only to laugh): Ubuntu, which is an ancient African word meaning cant install Debian :)
[04:43] <WooD> Is there any way to burn from the Live CD of Ubuntu ^
[04:43] <Stormx2> lukketto: haha I saw that
[04:44] <ynef> atlantian: Why expose anything at all? If you have a router, you shouldn't be visible to the rest of the Internet anyway
[04:44] <Stormx2> WooD: Yes. All this explained in the wiki
[04:44] <ballessay> lukketto: lol
[04:44] <Subhuman> atlantian, people do not "hack" your computer to get cc numbers that way, more likely that you fell for a phishing attack, (which no OS can stop) or spyware/keystroke logger (which arent common at all in linux)
[04:44] <Stormx2> WooD: Gimme a second I'll get the page
[04:44] <WooD> Stormx2: Thanks
[04:44] <atlantian> no
[04:44] <Fritz_> Hi guys, I have issues trying to connect an iPAQ to my Ubuntu
[04:44] <atlantian> it was no phishing attack
[04:44] <Stormx2> WooD: But basicly, right click the .iso and hit "Write to disc"
[04:44] <atlantian> i was hackd through some kind of an exploit for sure
[04:44] <atlantian> then a keylogger was installed
[04:44] <WooD> Fritz_: is it working ^
[04:44] <Fritz_> somebody can help me?
[04:44] <AlexC> Stormx2, http://pastebin.ca/75741 <-- that's what I get when I sudo aptitude remove mysql
[04:44] <Stormx2> atlantian: on ubuntu?!
[04:44] <jrib> finalbeta: does rar have a new version out? afaik unrar-nonfree is what can open the most recent
[04:44] <Subhuman> atlantian, exactly, keylogger.
[04:44] <finalbeta> jrib, nevermind, perhaps I need to doublecheck. but the things unrarred fine in windows
[04:44] <WooD> Stormx2: ok i have to make an iso first and burn it ... ok thanks
[04:45] <Subhuman> atlantian, what router do you have?
[04:45] <Stormx2> WooD: Wait, hold on
[04:45] <atlantian> yes but the keylogger was installed fur to the exploit in the first place
[04:45] <atlantian> erm
[04:45] <Fritz_> Wool  no
[04:45] <Stormx2> WooD: You need to download the iso first o.O
[04:45] <atlantian> netgeard dg34uk i think its called
[04:45] <Subhuman> do you keep it updateD?
[04:45] <WooD> Fritz_: I have tried and have fu*** all my Ubuntu :S
[04:45] <Fritz_> Wool  It seems ubuntu does not recognize it
[04:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Fritz, what are youtrying to do with that Ipaq... Network it to Ubuntu?
[04:45] <atlantian> .	ORiNOCO Classic Gold Card (or rebrand of) & 7dbi Omni Antenna
[04:46] <AlexC> Stormx2, works now, I did remoev mysql-server-5.0
[04:46] <WooD>  Fritz_ are you able to give me your feedback when you will be able to connect your iPaq ? I have a Windows Mobile 5
[04:46] <ballessay> Fritz_: how do you connect your device to your pc?
[04:46] <atlantian> sorry
[04:46] <atlantian> ADSL Firewall Router DG834UK
[04:46] <Stormx2> AlexC: I was just about to suggest that hehe ;)
[04:46] <atlantian> just purchased
[04:46] <Fritz_> Jack_Sparrow I would like to syncronize with Evolution
[04:46] <Subhuman> atlantian, you use wireless?
[04:46] <atlantian> yesterday
[04:46] <Subhuman> ahh okay.;
[04:46] <atlantian> i did yes
[04:46] <atlantian> but
[04:46] <jrib> finalbeta: well you can run 'unrar' in a terminal and make sure it is version 3.40
[04:46] <atlantian> not properly
[04:46] <atlantian> too in secure
[04:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Gotta go people, fritz, not sure that will work
[04:46] <atlantian> wired all the way
[04:47] <WooD> Stormx2: do you know the command by heart to make a normal iso ^
[04:47] <AlexC> Stormx2, Shall I remove /etc/mysql and /etc/apache2 too ?
[04:47] <atlantian> yeah i know its getting better for security, not broadcasting etc, but still i prefer wired
[04:47] <Stormx2> atlantian: Did you get the keylogger on ubuntu or windows? :P
[04:47] <Schalke1> Fritz_: this thread might be of help: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=30936
[04:47] <Stormx2> WooD: Out of what?
[04:47] <atlantian> storm, it was obviously windlols
[04:47] <atlantian> but
[04:47] <Fritz_> schalkel thanks
[04:48] <Subhuman> atlantian, think of a router as a hardware firewall, unless you tell the router to open a port explicitly, nothing can connect to the pcs behind unless you made the connection. So being behind a well updated router should be suffcient protection against attacks. WIRELESS is a totally different matter. you could have the best router in the world, and someone could sit outside your house and steal all your passwords.
[04:48] <atlantian> i am still going to be using windows from main PC now and again for gaming and misc things, so i wanted to make sure it was as secure as possible
[04:48] <WooD> Stormx2: if you know the command to make an iso file .. i have a file.tar.gz to burn on a dvd
[04:48] <Stormx2> WooD: And I don't. The tried and trusted way of making an ubuntu live CD is downloading the iso and burning it, it won't take more than a couple of hours
[04:48] <ballessay> i connect my XDAmini with usb, use the ipaq-kernel module, synce and multisync. works great
[04:48] <WooD> Fritz_: what is your iPaq
[04:48] <Stormx2> WooD: oh. You have the DVD version, which came as a .tar.gz? That'll be different, there will be instructions
[04:48] <atlantian> yeah sub, wireless i do not trust at all
[04:49] <Subhuman> atlantian, if you want wireless to be as secure as it can, use WPA encryption, hidden SSID, and whitelisted mac addresses, that isnt really bulletproof but it will make it much more difficult.
[04:49] <atlantian> so are you saying if i was scanned no results would be returned ?
[04:49] <Subhuman> atlantian, yes basically.
[04:49] <zhangxx> name
[04:49] <atlantian> hidden SSID is good, whitelisted MAC and WPA aint that strong i know
[04:49] <WooD> Stormx2: no .. I already have the  Live cd UBUNTU, im running with this right now to talk with you but .. now i have a file to burn at the same time I use Live CD
[04:49] <WooD> Fritz_: still there ^
[04:49] <WooD>  Fritz_ ?
[04:50] <atlantian> ok sub, sorry for going on and on, i appreciate your help btw ^^, What should i do no to configure the DMZ?
[04:50] <Subhuman> atlantian, none of them are good, you can change a mac address, hidden ssids are still broadcast, and wpa can be cracked in 10 minutes, but all together its more secure than anything else.
[04:50] <atlantian> yeah sub i know dont worry, the more layers the more put off to an attacker
[04:50] <naxx>   -hey
[04:50] <mc__> Subhuman, wpa in cracked in 10 minutes?
[04:50] <naxx> guys
[04:50] <atlantian> but you can never stop a determined enough attacker
[04:50] <Subhuman> atlantian, by the sounds of things, i think if you have a router now that will be suffice.
[04:50] <mc__> Subhuman, you mean wep i think
[04:50] <ynef> atlantian: again, why put your linux computer in the DMZ at all?
[04:50] <Subhuman> mc__, yes/
[04:50] <naxx> i confused now
[04:50] <Subhuman> no
[04:50] <Subhuman> wpa can be cracked easily.
[04:50] <atlantian> ynef yeah
[04:50] <AlexC> Stormx2, Shall I remove /etc/mysql and /etc/apache2 too ?
[04:51] <mc__> Subhuman, how?
[04:51] <Subhuman> mc__, theres vids on the net by now showing how to do it too.
[04:51] <atlantian> i suppose i was just reading it wrong, what I cant fatham is what my connection will look like, if they scan my IP
[04:51] <Subhuman> ill grab a link if u want
[04:51] <mc__> Subhuman, would be very nice
[04:51] <atlantian> WPA and WEP are not very secure thats for sure, i just dont like the idea of wireless at all, it breaks down walls LITERALLY
[04:52] <ynef> atlantian: depending on your router, it'll either respond to ICMP requests (such as PING), or not, and no ports will be open
[04:52] <atlantian> what about OS information? none at all?
[04:52] <novato_ubuntu> hello everybody
[04:52] <atlantian> this is the thing that i dont understand
[04:52] <Fritz_> wool it is a iPAQ HP 1910
[04:52] <ynef> atlantian: what thing?
[04:52] <Subhuman> mc__, http://www.crimemachine.com/Tuts/Flash/WPA.html
[04:53] <Subhuman> atlantian, it will prob get your routers os info
[04:53] <novato_ubuntu> does anyone know how to configure an adsl modem on the usb port?
[04:53] <atlantian> if my IP is scanned and I am using the router, the attacker would not know which OS i am using?
[04:53] <mc__> Subhuman, thank you
[04:53] <ynef> atlantian: nope -- the router would be the only thing that responds to the attacker
[04:53] <atlantian> IN windows i know you can tell due to certain ports being open
[04:53] <revilo> novato_ubuntu, what modem is it?
[04:53] <Fritz_> i put  "synce-pstatus" and I got "synce-pstatus: Unable to initialize RAPI: An unspecified failure has occurred"
[04:53] <atlantian> what scared me i guess was the WMF 0Day exploit
[04:53] <novato_ubuntu> revilo: it's a d-link 502g
[04:54] <atlantian> watching a video of how a reverse shell was returned
[04:54] <ShadowLurker> NickServ IDENTIFY tm-cis21
[04:54] <atlantian> getting past the firewall and everything
[04:54] <ccooke> atlantian: WPA is at least somewhat acceptable. Better to just use IPSEC, though
[04:54] <ynef> atlantian: oh, you can tell that by quirks in the TCP/IP implementation as well... :) but in your case, the only thing responding will be the router
[04:54] <Stormx2> AlexC: I really don't know
[04:54] <naxx> lol
[04:54] <Stormx2> ShadowLurker: Uh oh :P change your pass quick
[04:54] <ballessay> Fritz_: is the ipaq-modul loaded?
[04:54] <ShadowLurker> cahnged
[04:54] <ShadowLurker> lol\
[04:54] <ShadowLurker> my bad
[04:54] <revilo> novato_ubuntu, i'm not sure about that modem but take a look on the modems section of http://eciadsl.flashtux.org thats the driver i use for my BT Voyaget 105, supports quite a lot of modems :)
[04:54] <novato_ubuntu> revilo: but be gentle because i'm a newbie in the linux world!
[04:54] <Subhuman> atlantian, i will scan you now to show you what people will see.
[04:54] <Fritz_> ballessay  how can I check this?
[04:55] <novato_ubuntu> revilo:   :o)
[04:55] <revilo> novato_ubuntu, no worries :)
[04:55] <naxx> jau
[04:55] <naxx> ^^
[04:55] <naxx> idiot
[04:55] <atlantian> this is where you find a massive whole
[04:55] <atlantian> :P
[04:55] <ballessay> lsmod | grep ipaq
[04:55] <atlantian> what app your using then?
[04:55] <atlantian> nmap?
[04:55] <finalbeta> Anyone knows y my TV card changes from /dev/video0 to /dev/video1 and back between boots? really irritating, programs don't run right.
[04:55] <Stormx2> atlantian: Are you on about windows at the mo?
[04:55] <novato_ubuntu> revilo: let me see that...
[04:55] <atlantian> no
[04:55] <Subhuman> lol of course :P
[04:55] <atlantian> ok sub
[04:55] <naxx> lol
[04:55] <atlantian> here is a question then
[04:55] <Subhuman> dude who doesnt scan with nmap unless your doing a lan range?
[04:55] <atlantian> yeah i guess heh
[04:55] <naxx> 16:55]  -NickServ- [ShadowLurker]  has been killed
[04:55] <naxx> lol
[04:55] <ballessay> Fritz_: is the device connected via usb?
[04:56] <rpedro> finalbeta: /j #v4l
[04:56] <Fritz_> ballessay  YES. by USB
[04:56] <naxx> lol
[04:56] <finalbeta> thnx rpedro
[04:56] <Subhuman> languard is pretty sweet for lans, or autoscan
[04:56] <atlantian> is the only way to bypass all of this and the only way hackers do get businesses, when the business downloads files that switch off protection, send out reverse shells, exploits basically, I mean if a router is such a block, surly thats the only way around
[04:56] <atlantian> remotly
[04:56] <atlantian> that is
[04:56] <Fritz_> it appears ipaq, usbserial and usbcore
[04:57] <ballessay> i load the ipaq-module with the device specific vendor and product id
[04:57] <cute_bettong> Schalke1,  i tryed that howto and i get a weard error {no screens found} and then i get no gui is there something i am doing wrong?
[04:57] <cute_bettong> if i choose ati as the driver things are fine
[04:57] <naxx> ghost ShadowLurker tm-cis21
[04:57] <naxx> fu
[04:57] <Subhuman> atlantian, the only way to really get past a filtered router is get malware on the pcs behind it, or to attack the router itself
[04:57] <Fritz_> I got the vendor and product id
[04:57] <ballessay> Fritz_: have you made a synce-serial-config ttyUSB0 or something like that?
[04:57] <Fritz_> yes
[04:57] <Fritz_> exactly
[04:57] <Subhuman> router exploits are less common, but make sure if you router is updated anyway.
[04:57] <Fritz_> then dccm
[04:58] <Stormx2> Fritz_: What device are you connecting?
[04:58] <atlantian> and these malware can then initiate a session and that would be allowed due to outbound traffic almost always being allowed?
[04:58] <Fritz_> Stormx2  iPAQ HP 1910  Pocket Pc
[04:58] <naxx> [16:58]  -NickServ- [ShadowLurker]  is not currently online
[04:58] <naxx> lol
[04:58] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: when do you get this error?
[04:58] <Stormx2> atlantian: Sure you want to talk in ##windows?
[04:58] <atlantian> if a session is initiated from the inside then thats the only real way yeah? and that is obviously done by the exploit or the malware which is on the system
[04:58] <naxx> [16:58]  -NickServ- [ShadowLurker]  is not currently online
[04:59] <Stormx2> atlantian: I'll come talk i know a little about spyware
[04:59] <AlexC> Ok, here goes again, LAMP Episode ...6 I think, attack of the Alex and appitude =\
[04:59] <cute_bettong> Schalke1, just before x would start with the gnome login screen i get that blue and red screen of "it's not right so you cannot use this" thing
[04:59] <atlantian> im sorry i just never want to be used again
[04:59] <Subhuman> atlantian, yea
[05:00] <Subhuman> no worries
[05:00] <hctibtipots> how can i install this file....jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586(2).bin?
[05:00] <atlantian> I guess the most secure way to make orders and use a bank account would be to use a linux live cdlike knoppix as therecouldnt possible be any malware etc on there
[05:00] <J0s3ph> anyone know of a gnome applet that lists filesystems?
[05:00] <ardchoille> naxx: do you have a question or helping solve a problem?
[05:00] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: and thats after doing everything in the howto?
[05:00] <stefg> !faq > hctibtipots
[05:00] <cute_bettong> yes i beleve i have followed the howto correctly
[05:00] <ccooke> J0s3ph: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:00] <cute_bettong> brb gonna test again
[05:00] <atlantian> I know linux doesnt contain hardly any malware but im not going to be you know stupid and always think linux is guaranteed malware free
[05:00] <atlantian> that is not the right way to think
[05:01] <ynef> atlantian: set up a bank account that you only use for online purchaces, and transfer the exact amount needed to buy whatever you need
[05:01] <Subhuman> atlantian, basically you dont need to be a security paranoid freak, i mean i have http/ftp/ssh open and i dont change my pass every 20 minutes and have 164 character passwords, but as long as your not stupid, and your hardware is secure (ie router) then your pretty safe.
[05:01] <J0s3ph> ccooke: thanks, but that's not what im looking for at all unfortunately
[05:02] <ccooke> J0s3ph: So what are you looking for?
[05:02] <atlantian> ok
[05:02] <Subhuman> atlantian, *nix's separation between root and user however means that malware is VERY unlikely to cause serious system damage, just dont execute anything your unsure about.
[05:02] <J0s3ph> id like a gnome applet that lets me browse through filesystems
[05:02] <atlantian> thanks very much subhuman and ynef and all of you
[05:02] <atlantian> seriously Thanks ^^
[05:02] <Subhuman> atlantian,
[05:02] <Subhuman> i have your results lol
[05:02] <atlantian> uve got me
[05:02] <atlantian> rooted :'(
[05:02] <J0s3ph> so that i can click on something in the panel and itll go through the folders
[05:02] <[Ex0r] > 50,000kb = 5 gigs right ?
[05:02] <ccooke> J0s3ph: a file browser?
[05:02] <kbrooks> [Ex0r] : no
[05:02] <AlexC> ok, apache installed, time for php ... sorry, i'm talking to my self lol
[05:02] <[Ex0r] > err, 500,000*
[05:03] <J0s3ph> ccooke: in a way, but for the panel
[05:03] <Schalke1> cute_bettong: perhaps you need to enter 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and choose 'fglrx'
[05:03] <ballessay> [ExOr]  50 MB
[05:03] <kbrooks> [Ex0r] : still no
[05:03] <rpedro> [Ex0r] : 500MB
[05:03] <J0s3ph> ccooke: sort of like how kde has
[05:03] <AlexC> Stormx2, PHP4 or 5?
[05:03] <ynef> Subhuman: the separation between root and user are good, but in this (and most other cases), anything the user has in his or her home directory is usually much more valuable than the system itself -- for a desktop, anyway
[05:03] <kbrooks> a gigabyte is 1024 megabytes
[05:03] <ccooke> J0s3ph: how would you browse files on the panel? there isn't enough space
[05:03] <kbrooks> 1024*1024*5
[05:03] <[Ex0r] > 500000000 there now that should be 5 gigs
[05:03] <Subhuman> ynef, true but i expect people to backup that sort of thing.
[05:03] <atlantian> i love how it goes red when ur name is mentioned
[05:03] <J0s3ph> ccooke: windows has this very feature, as does kde
[05:04] <kbrooks> [Ex0r] : stop assuming
[05:04] <ynef> [Ex0r] : use the calculator at google: type "50000 kilobytes in gigabytes" and see what comes up
[05:04] <kbrooks> [Ex0r] : try this 1024*1024*5
[05:04] <J0s3ph> ccooke: you'd click on the applet then the set folder is listed
[05:04] <stefg> That's how harddisk-vendors count
[05:04] <J0s3ph> think of it as a start menu but for files
[05:04] <atlantian> ok
[05:04] <Tommy2k4> how can i limit bandwidth to a certain app
[05:04] <atlantian> MOving onto my last question for a few days :P
[05:04] <ccooke> J0s3ph: Ah. So, you mean a way of putting some folder effectively on the panel? not an *arbitrary* folder?
[05:04] <Subhuman> atlantian, pastebin is fucking up on me, but your host has no open ports, and the os of the router is undetectable :D
[05:04] <alexicon> hello
[05:04] <J0s3ph> ccooke: yes, exactly
[05:05] <ynef> Subhuman: right -- but their user rights are perfectly sufficient to install a keylogger and other malware programs so that *their* account is compromized
[05:05] <Subhuman> so your bascially invisible to most auto scans :S
[05:05] <J0s3ph> lets say i set the applet to list root
[05:05] <prudhvi> Hi, i just upgraded to Dapper Drake and i am unable to create Ethernet Aliases. is there anyway i can do that
[05:05] <alexicon> i just did a dist-upgrade from hoary to dapper, now it says i dont have an eth0 device
[05:05] <Subhuman> ynef, i know, but I said dont run things your unsure about.
[05:05] <alexicon> oooh prudhvi same here
[05:05] <atlantian> MY friend had a windows box running realvnc, how would i go about connecting to it, I think i have the correct application but not luck
[05:05] <J0s3ph> ccooke:  it would list it then when i goto the folders within it would then continue in a different menu
[05:05] <atlantian> subhuman thanks alot bro
[05:05] <atlantian> for making me feel better
[05:05] <atlantian> :)
[05:05] <J0s3ph> and ideally list the files within the directories at the bottom
[05:05] <ccooke> J0s3ph: I see
[05:05] <J0s3ph> ccooke: know anything that does that for gnome?
[05:06] <cute_bettong> Schalke1, yea i must not be doing something right what can i do to help you get the info you need to help me? if thats ok? ^_^
[05:06] <prudhvi> alexicon, i got the eth0 device and eth1 device. all i need is to create a new eth aliased device thats all
[05:06] <alexicon> i only have lo
[05:06] <alexicon> and it wont let me ifconfig a new eth0
[05:06] <atlantian> I still need to use windows SO i guess i will just have to be careful where i go, what i download, what I use, and there shouldnt be any malware that will affect me, as this is my only worry, I will be using windows on main PC a fair bit, I will run zone alarm and nod32 and net limiter, xnetstat on the windows machine
[05:06] <atlantian> for security
[05:06] <atlantian> :)
[05:07] <Subhuman> atlantian, you wont need ZA anymore.
[05:07] <Stormx2> AlexC: if you're still deciding.... I'd go with php4 but its a matter of preference
[05:07] <atlantian> but sub
[05:07] <atlantian> ZA helps me control the applications that i dont want connecting outwards so surly that is still needed
[05:07] <AlexC> Stormx2, I have no preferene, I just want it working lol
[05:08] <atlantian> ?
[05:08] <Stormx2> php4 then
[05:08] <Stormx2> !lamp
[05:08] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[05:08] <Stormx2> Check that out
[05:08] <Subhuman> atlantian, best combo on windows imo is WinClam (antivirus- free) and adaware/spybot, thats a decent catch all that doesnt cost :D, and NEVER get norton :(
[05:08] <J0s3ph> ccooke: nothing? :\
[05:08] <AlexC> Stormx2, I am, that's what im following
[05:08] <Stormx2> ah goodo
[05:08] <Subhuman> atlantian, i guess, but the only malicious stuff to go outbound will be caught with clamav and adaware wont it?
[05:08] <cute_bettong> darn he left can anyone else help me with my ati issue?
[05:09] <atlantian> hmm
[05:09] <atlantian> yeah
[05:09] <alexicon> anyone else with insightful information on how to get eth0 back on dapper???
[05:09] <WooD> My Ubuntu want boot anymore.. when it start X  i have the error cannot find /dev/mouse device .. when i go to /dev/mouse there is no device name mouse
[05:09] <atlantian> subhuman i should use ipchains to control linux outward activity?
[05:09] <AlexC> right, php4 done...now onto the evil MySQL ...grr lol
[05:09] <gostview> hi all, is it possible call a skype user with ekiga knowing his name?
[05:09] <ballessay> Wood: and what is with /dev/input/mice?
[05:09] <atlantian> nod32 is the best anti virus in the windows world without a doubt, dont worry i aint used norton since 2001 :)
[05:09] <Subhuman> atlantian, in linux if you feel like it, install "firestarter" and just use that.
[05:10] <matusbraga> #ubuntu-br
[05:10] <Subhuman> it uses ipchains (or iptables? i forget) but itz just a pretty gui for it.
[05:10] <atlantian> iptables sounds right lol i thought i made a mistake
[05:10] <[Ex0r] > hmm, how do you configure suexec with apache ?
[05:10] <Subhuman> atlantian, ipchains is also a firewall tyep app.
[05:10] <atlantian> ah
[05:10] <Subhuman> i use iptables on my server,
[05:10] <naxx> guys
[05:10] <cute_bettong> can someone else help me get this video card to work right? VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY [Radeon 7000/VE] 
[05:11] <matusbraga> j #ubuntu-br
[05:11] <alexicon> is there an ubuntu networking channel?
[05:11] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, that will work with the free ati drivers.
[05:11] <alexicon> hi psyphen
[05:11] <atlantian> ok subhuman erm, trying to think if there is anything else as were talking about security hmm
[05:11] <alexicon> heh
[05:11] <WooD> ballessay: i did not check there because when i start X ( Xorg.conf ) it try to find in the /dev/mouse instead of /dev/input/mice
[05:11] <alexicon> @_@
[05:11] <naxx> kay
[05:11] <AlexC> Stormx2, is it ok if I installed mysql-server-5.0 even if I have PHP4?
[05:11] <psyphen> stop giving poor alexicon a headache :/
[05:11] <atlantian> what is the best anti virus/malware for linux?
[05:11] <naxx> guys
[05:11] <alexicon> !modprobe >alexicon
[05:11] <naxx> qparted doesnt allow me to delete all partitions
[05:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about modprobe
[05:11] <naxx> even when run from the live cd
[05:12] <naxx> what can i do?
[05:12] <alexicon> rawr
[05:12] <Subhuman> WooD, dont keep asking, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" in the failsafe terminal
[05:12] <Stormx2> AlexC: I suppose so yes.
[05:12] <Subhuman> atlantian, you dont need it :D
[05:12] <ballessay> WooD: why?
[05:12] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, not my games or screensavers
[05:12] <Subhuman> atlantian, there are aps about but ive never used them in my year or so of constant linux use.
[05:12] <WooD> Subhuman: thanks I note that and try that now
[05:13] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, are they slow as hell? use the binary drivers then.
[05:13] <Subhuman> !ati
[05:13] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:13] <atlantian> hmm dont you think its being -I forget the word,lol - thinking there are no linux malware at all?
[05:13] <alexicon> anyone else have dapper remove your nic? ifconfig wont let me add a new one
[05:13] <atlantian> i know linux is like less than 1% in usage OS wise
[05:13] <atlantian> but still wouldnt that make it a target for really clever people know linux people are so errmmm
[05:13] <atlantian> i forget the word,lol
[05:13] <AlexC> Stormx2, sorry to keep pestering you, just say and i'll stop! but is this ok after I did aptitude install mysql-server http://pastebin.ca/75758 ?
[05:14] <Subhuman> atlantian, there is some yes, but ive never met a person who has ever been infected.
[05:14] <Stormx2> AlexC: What? Sorry I don't understand the context of that pastebin
[05:14] <Subhuman> atlantian, unless your an actual specfic target (e.g your famous/hated/annoying) your about as safe as you can be now
[05:14] <Subhuman> any more is just OTT paranoid IMO
[05:15] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, i tryed that howto and the error i get is in the xserver thingy that no screens have been found then it crashes x for CLI only
[05:15] <atlantian> fair enough
[05:15] <cute_bettong> it works fine if i put ati in there though
[05:15] <[Ex0r] > how do you go about getting suexec installed with apache ?
[05:15] <atlantian> subhuman i know im paranoid i admit it, but when you lose money you cant help it
[05:15] <atlantian> it happens
[05:15] <atlantian> :)
[05:15] <alexicon> lol nice handle noob-saibot
[05:15] <Stormx2> AlexC: If I were you, I'd follow that wiki, then go install the other mysql version. it'll conflict with the previous one and therefore uninstall it, but at least your starting from a safe installation
[05:16] <alexicon> okay last time, anyone here have dapper remove their network devices??? to the point where ifconfig will not let you add new ones.... looks like a module is missing but im not sure.
[05:16] <Subhuman> atlantian, loose money? your credit card company wont cover you?
[05:16] <AlexC> Stormx2, safe installation....there's something to aim for.
[05:16] <atlantian> no
[05:16] <atlantian> this was a while back
[05:16] <atlantian> they would not
[05:16] <atlantian> no
[05:16] <ballessay> alexicon: is the module loaded?
[05:16] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, do you have any idea why no screens are found?
[05:16] <atlantian> i tried everything
[05:16] <atlantian> but no luck at all
[05:17] <alexicon> im not sure ballessay
[05:17] <Fk> Bonjour  tous!!!
[05:17] <alexicon> ive done lsmod but to be honest im not sure what im lookin for
[05:17] <alexicon> its on a laptop that i dont normally use
[05:17] <Subhuman> cute_bettong, sorry i use Nvidia cards exclusively so im not sure im afraid.
[05:17] <Stormx2> AlexC: Basicly, sudo apt-get install apache2 php4 mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php4-mysql
[05:17] <Subhuman> atlantian, i'd switch companies if they did that to me
[05:17] <cute_bettong> Subhuman, yea untill mine freid this morn i did too
[05:17] <cute_bettong> ati sucks
[05:17] <Stormx2> AlexC: Then once that is done install your different mysql server version
[05:18] <atlantian> i did dont worry
[05:18] <ballessay> alexicon: do you know which network-card you have?
[05:18] <AlexC> ok, let me do that instead of this guide then
[05:18] <Subhuman> im entitled to get back anything fraudlently taken
[05:18] <proog> did ubuntu ever have v1, 2 and 3 releases?
[05:18] <Subhuman> proog, the version is a date
[05:18] <AlexC> Stormx2, when I go to install phpmyadmin it wants to install php5-common php5-gd and php5-mcrpty - could this be my problem?
[05:18] <Subhuman> 6.06 2006 - 6th month
[05:18] <dortega> dfjm
[05:19] <dortega> como os llamais
[05:19] <alexicon> 0000:02:03.0 Network controller: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)
[05:19] <Subhuman> 4.04 2004 - 4th month, proog 4.04 is actuall version 1 :D
[05:19] <proog> 6th of june, Subhuman?
[05:19] <johnny_> hi. i need to browse windows domain network from dapper. it does not list the servers. what i should do
[05:19] <Stormx2> AlexC: Do you have the mysql server 5 installed?
[05:19] <alexicon> 0000:02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet (rev 02)
[05:19] <alexicon> thats the one ballessay
[05:19] <Subhuman> proog, 6th month of the year.
[05:19] <AlexC> Stormx2, I think so, mysql-server-5.0
[05:19] <alexicon> broadcom
[05:19] <ballessay> alexicon: so you want to configure your wlan-card?
[05:19] <Stormx2> AlexC: Then its likely it wants mysql server 5 and php5 OR mysql server 4 and php4
[05:20] <proog> Subhuman: then why 6.06 and not just 6?
[05:20] <foxiness> proog, 2006 06
[05:20] <Stormx2> AlexC: yeah I just checked the dependacies
[05:20] <proog> ok
[05:20] <nitche> hey guys i got DivX working, still suffering a bad refresh rate at the moment... any body has a cure for this. Im on a nvidia gforce 6200 card
[05:20] <alexicon> no ballessay i want ethernet only
[05:20] <Stormx2> AlexC: Instal mysql 5 and php5 or mysql 4 and php4
[05:20] <alexicon> the broadcom one
[05:20] <AlexC> Stormx2, so I needed to install PHP5 and not HPP4?!
[05:20] <AlexC> PHP4*
[05:20] <Subhuman> proog, its a date! 6 - 2006 | 06 - 6th month of the year itz ZERO SIX to conform with the second release in 10 - October
[05:21] <Stormx2> AlexC: If you want mysql server 5, it would appear so
[05:21] <_absolution_> why can't I run xmms on fluxbox?
[05:21] <Stormx2> AlexC: It has a section for php5 on the wiki
[05:21] <Subhuman> _absolution_, you should be able to.
[05:21] <Stormx2> _absolution_: What error does it give?
[05:21] <atlantian> firestarter looks sweet subhuman thanks
[05:21] <_absolution_> oh wait I mean Xine
[05:21] <AlexC> Stormx2, ffs, I followed that guide perfectly, even to install PHP4 now it tells me I need PHP5
[05:21] <Stormx2> AlexC: Well.
[05:21] <alexicon> ballessay: im in knoppix right now, but when i do an lsmod im not sure which one my ethernet might be
[05:21] <Stormx2> AlexC: Happens ;)
[05:22] <Stormx2> AlexC: Just sudo apt-get install php5
[05:22] <bluefoxicy> http://i.somethingawful.com/inserts/articlepics/photoshop/06-30-06-movies/cuntfish_01.jpg
[05:22] <_absolution_> when I run xine it doesn't play movies....but when I go to the gnome desktop it runs fine
[05:22] <Tommy2k4> how can i limit bandwidth to a specific app
[05:22] <ballessay> alexicon: this is a 1000Mbit card, right?
[05:22] <foxiness> Stormx2, i read about ubuntu now it has something like ubuntu-desktop from LAMP is that true form desktop
[05:23] <alexicon> so it claims ballessay
[05:23] <AlexC> this time yesterday I tried to installed LAMP.......i'm still here =) hehe
[05:23] <alexicon> i guess when i plug right into the modem it is
[05:23] <johnny_> how do i connect to windows share (in domain) with other username/password?
[05:23] <cute_bettong> ok i think i got it working but can someone tell me if this is correct for fglrxinfo?
[05:23] <cute_bettong> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:23] <cute_bettong> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:23] <cute_bettong> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:23] <cute_bettong> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[05:23] <alexicon> ive only got a 10/100 switch though
[05:23] <AlexC> !pastebin
[05:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:23] <cute_bettong> sorry
[05:24] <cute_bettong> >.<
[05:24] <cute_bettong> just excitd that it worked this time (i think)
[05:24] <alexicon> ballessay: i see three possibilities on lspci, the wifi, gigabit and plain modem
[05:24] <alexicon> so im guessing its the gigabit im using
[05:24] <cute_bettong> so can anyone tell me if thats working correctly?
[05:24] <ballessay> alexicon: try to modprobe tg3
[05:24] <Stormx2> foxiness: Pardon? I didn't really understand what you mean...
[05:24] <alexicon> ty ballessay
[05:24] <alexicon> bb
 why cant it just be as simple as windows to install php/mysql/apache ... just download double click, next next next finish, done. takes 10 mins, not 24 hours!!!!</rant>
[05:25] <ryanpg> ugh... this is a total newbie question but... is there a way to get an "Applications" folder in nautilus? I thought it was by typing applications:/// in the location bar but that tells me "applications:///" is not a valid location. "applications:///" is not a valid location."
[05:25] <Stormx2> AlexC: Its easy...
[05:25] <Stormx2> AlexC: You're just going about it in a silly way :P
[05:25] <AlexC> Stormx2, Yes, if you have a slave to do it for you
[05:25] <AlexC> Stormx2, how do you mean, silly way?
[05:25] <Stormx2> AlexC: not at all man... I find it a million times easy than windows
[05:26] <mc__> ryanpg,  there are /usr/bin /bin/ /usr/X11R6/bin and so on...
[05:26] <Stormx2> AlexC: Well whats your current problem?
[05:26] <AlexC> Stormx2, when it works, yes.
[05:26] <Stormx2> AlexC: sudo apt-get remove php4, then follow the bits on install php5
[05:26] <AlexC> Stormx2, that fact that no guide is good, it tells me to install PHP4 then when it says now install phpmyadmin it goes 'Oh, Hang on we don't need php4, we need php5 ...my mistake'
[05:27] <foxiness> Stormx2, on ubuntu you can install apache,php,mysql with one command like apt-get install web-ubuntu,but i dont know what the package and can i do this from destkop ver or this for sever only
[05:27] <nitche> ahem ahem... any hope for configuring my gforce6200. the Xorg config seems to have lost its head
[05:27] <Stormx2> foxiness: Its entirely possible from the desktop version, and you can do it on one line
[05:27] <Stormx2> AlexC: Incorrect
[05:27] <AlexC> WTF
[05:28] <AlexC> sudo aptitude install php5  so it installs PHP4
[05:28] <AlexC> Yes, nice one linux.
[05:28] <bluefoxicy> hrm
[05:28] <pestilence> if i sync my ipod with gtkpod and then go back and sync with itunes, will i have major problems?
[05:28] <bluefoxicy> !automaticupdates
[05:28] <ubotu> I know nothing about automaticupdates
[05:28] <Stormx2> AlexC; As I have just explained to you, you need PHP4 and MySQL 4 OR PHP5 and MySQL5. At the moment you have MySQL5 and PHP4, therefore it rightfully suggests you install PHP5, or you could choose to downgrade mysql
[05:28] <Stormx2> AlexC: If you're not prepared to be rational I suggest you go back to windows.
[05:29] <pestilence> i.e. anybody here use both itunes and gtkpod without issue?
[05:29] <mc__> !liveupdate
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about liveupdate
[05:29] <AlexC> Stormx2, I can't downgrade, when ever I do install mysql it installs mysql-server-5.0 for me, no questions asked
[05:29] <mc__> !nothing
[05:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about nothing
[05:29] <foxiness> http://www.ubuntu.com/news/lamp?highlight=%28lamp%29
[05:29] <nitche> and the refree has blown his whistle... but im still glued to this miracle :s ok. whatever... kill -9 me
[05:30] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me if this is correct? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16837
[05:30] <schmakk> does anyone know if gxmame has been updated since 2003?
[05:30] <Stormx2> AlexC: OK. Heres what you do. Remove any mysql stuffs, php stuffs and apache2
[05:30] <dpt> hello everyone
[05:30] <AlexC> Stormx2, for the 7th time today, let me do that
[05:30] <dpt> can't i install .deb for commmon 32 bits ubuntu in a 64 bits ubuntu?
[05:31] <atlantian> hey can any one point me in the direction of how to connect to a realVNC Server on a windows box from UBuntu? Thanks
[05:31] <Stormx2> AlexC: Then, run the command I am about to tell you
[05:31] <dpt> run vncviewer
[05:31] <Stormx2> lol :P
[05:31] <snoops> dpt I believe you have to have a '32bit chrooted environment'.. or linux32
[05:31] <dpt> atlantian: vncviewer in a console
[05:31] <ballessay> alexicon: is the interface now available?
[05:31] <snoops> but I'm not sure how you can do it with linux32
[05:32] <dpt> it's for someone i'm helpin. He's a fot a 64 bit linux and he wants to install skype but deb do not say 64bits, can he download the 32 bits package?
[05:32] <Stormx2> AlexC: sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-server libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql phpmyadmin
[05:33] <atlantian> ok
[05:33] <atlantian> thanks
[05:33] <Libra102> hello..
[05:33] <atlantian> how would you go about making a server?
[05:33] <Stormx2> hi!
[05:33] <dpt> Stormx2 xammp ??
[05:33] <snoops> dpt, yeah.. but he's going to have fun trying to install it I bet
[05:33] <Stormx2> atlantian: A web server?
[05:33] <Libra102> I will try find movie encoding program.
[05:33] <atlantian> VNC Server
[05:33] <AlexC> Stormx2, now when ever I got to localhost it asks me to download a file
[05:33] <dpt> it's worthless, too complicated!! Xampp does the same and can be configured as you want and takes one minute to install
[05:33] <Stormx2> AlexC: possibly normal.
[05:33] <AlexC> Stormx2, ....
[05:34] <Stormx2> AlexC: It might be worth rebooting.
[05:34] <Stormx2> AlexC: Just to sort out the MIME types. I'm not sure how to do it from your current environment
[05:34] <Stormx2> AlexC: Then you'll most likely want to softlink the /var/www directory to ~/www but that'll come later
[05:35] <dpt> i can't change the default open with of any kind of files! I haven't found how to solve this
[05:35] <mnk> hello all - i have a friend who is using a dell 9400 laptop but can't get resolution higher than 1024 X something - his windows os supports 1920 x 1200. does anyone know how to get it working?
[05:35] <Stormx2> atlantian: apt-cache search vnc
[05:35] <Spec[x] > mnk: what video card?
[05:35] <dpt> i right clik on a file and choose open with but i can change de default program, nor put a new one in the list
[05:35] <AlexC> I think i'll save that for a rainny day, Stormx2 - thanks for your help, I know i've been a right pain in the ass but 24 hours of lamp does drive you crazy
[05:35] <mldonkey> hi
[05:35] <mnk> ati mobility radion x1400
[05:35] <mnk> Spec, ati mobility radion x1400
[05:35] <AlexC> Stormx2, cya
[05:35] <_fluffee> Hello.  Last week I got wonderful advice re obtaining files nec'y for Ubby to update (not upgrade: I'm on Dapper), and I have done so.  My question now is; How do I tell Ubby that I want it to use files at say, ftp://foo/bar to update from?  I know I could install each .deb I retrieved, but I'd rather Ubby did it for me and sorted dependancies and ordering for me.
[05:35] <Spec> what driver are you using?
[05:36] <mnk> vesa
[05:36] <mnk> Spec, visa
[05:36] <Stormx2> atlantian: Wait, hold on a seccy. Try going to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[05:36] <jrattner1> QUESTION: Will Open Office 2.0.3 appear in the repos because it address numerous security issues
[05:36] <alexicon> ballessay: the interface is available, but i still cant ping anything after ive configured it
[05:36] <Spec> mnk: is there a better drive for a radeon? :p
[05:36] <atlantian> thank you stormx2 :)
[05:36] <mnk> Spec, no idea about linux and drivers!
[05:36] <Spec> !radeon
[05:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about radeon
[05:36] <Spec> !ati
[05:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:36] <Spec> read that :)
[05:37] <mnk> thanks Spec
[05:37] <Stormx2> _fluffee: If its in some sort of repository, you could add a line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:37] <Spec> np - i can't help you further, i'm not very experienced with ATI cards
[05:37] <mldonkey> I've this problem: When I compile my source.c, gcc compiler not found anyone library. How can I install all default c library?
[05:37] <Stormx2> ATI teh suck!
[05:37] <Spec> mldonkey: you've done: apt-get install build-essential ?
[05:37] <Spec> Stormx2: here here!
[05:37] <Stormx2> mldonkey: sudo apt-get update build-essential
[05:37] <ballessay> alexicon: do you ping per ip or domainname?
[05:38] <alexicon> was doing a domainname ballessay sorry
[05:38] <ccooke> Stormx2: ach, stop spreading fud. Nvidia are better, but ATI have improved *hugely* in the last few years
[05:38] <christotoday> I do 'apt-get remove apache2'  but I still see /usr/sbin/apache2ctl - why is this still here? Doesn't 'apt-get remove' remove the installed binaries/scripts ?
[05:38] <mc__> mldonkey, and please try to improve your english
[05:38] <ballessay> alexicon: have you configure /etc/resolv.conf
[05:38] <ccooke> Stormx2: but if all they hear is people hating them, I doubt they'll bother improving more.
[05:38] <alexicon> oh yeah ballessay thanks!!
[05:38] <alexicon> will try that now
[05:38] <Spec> mc__: ?
[05:38] <ballessay> np
[05:38] <Stormx2> ccooke: I don't even know what card i've got...
[05:39] <Stormx2> ccooke: might be ati for all I know
[05:39] <atlantian> linux is impessing me more day by day :)
[05:39] <mc__> Spec, ?
[05:39] <Spec> mc__: why tell people to improve their english if the gist gets through?
[05:39] <alexicon> oh ballessay one more thing. after i configure eth0 how can i restart it?? im used to /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart    is it /etc/init.d/networking restart for ubuntu???
[05:39] <ccooke> Stormx2: lspci | grep -i vga
[05:39] <mldonkey> Stormx2 Thks now I'm doing
[05:39] <Stormx2> ccooke: Its an nVidia
[05:40] <Spec> Stormx2: which one?
[05:40] <alexicon> hi kalosaurusrex!!
[05:40] <Stormx2> 0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]  (rev 15)
[05:40] <Stormx2> XD
[05:40] <Stormx2> pwnt
[05:40] <alexicon> :'(
[05:40] <snoops> atlantian same here.. in a few years normal users might not even have to tinker to get all the things they want to do going! :)
[05:40] <mc__> Spec, improving ones english is always a good idea i think
[05:40] <jrattner1> english is overrated
[05:40] <atlantian> hehe
[05:40] <concept10> what app could convert mp4 to mp3?
[05:40] <atlantian> :)
[05:41] <ccooke> jrattner1: Not when you want to communicate in an English-speaking medium.
[05:41] <atlantian> In many ways linux is alot more easier than windows,
[05:41] <jrattner1> ccooke, hehe true
[05:41] <cArNaGe`> name three atlantian
[05:41] <mc__> atlantian, and vica-versa
[05:41] <ccooke> atlantian: yeah. Try printing, for instance.
[05:41] <atlantian> x windows and desktop environs make it ustable
[05:41] <jrattner1> linux > windows
[05:41] <atlantian> updating linux
[05:41] <atlantian> installing applications (most part)
[05:41] <cArNaGe`> I like my ubuntu but other distro's suck
[05:41] <ccooke> cArNaGe`: Configuring printers. Updating the OS. Remote maintenance.
[05:41] <atlantian> adminstering and setting things
[05:42] <atlantian> preferences
[05:42] <cArNaGe`> hmm
[05:42] <alexicon> hey people, is it /etc/init.d/networking restart   to restart network services in ubuntu??
[05:42] <Stormx2> Someone in #ubuntu-offtopic had a really good newbie firewall idea yesterday.... looked really promising.
[05:42] <Subhuman> firstly
[05:42] <christotoday> should  'apt-get remove <package>' remove all programs installed when the package was first installed?
[05:42] <Subhuman> os wars to #ubuntu-offtopci
[05:42] <cArNaGe`> my printer doesn't work on ubuntu but window doesn't have trouble
[05:42] <NickGarvey> christotoday: no
[05:42] <Subhuman> secondly, linux != windows, there both for different things
[05:42] <snoops> atlantian oh I agree.. I love the whole concept of repositories.. Searching for stuff is easier.. I find the gnome menu system easier than windows.. lots of stuff is easier.. then you get the hard stuff :/
[05:43] <ballessay> alexicon: the settings are in /etc/network/interfaces, and yes /etc/init.d/networking restart should be right
[05:43] <Subhuman> unless you just want to read email, look at porn, listen to tunes and write a letter now and then.
[05:43] <alexicon> cheers! brb
[05:43] <Subhuman> then linux is a better choice.
[05:43] <christotoday> NickGarvey - this may be a stupid question, but.. Why not?
[05:43] <POVaddct> cArNaGe`: if you have a GDI printer, you've got no printer but a piece of crap.
[05:43] <XaviusShadow> I'm trying to install ubuntu and I keep getting an I/O error message when it's booting the kernal? What's that mean?
[05:43] <CarNagE__> Stop highlighting me :>
[05:43] <Stormx2> christotoday: No.
[05:43] <Stormx2> christotoday: Wait, depends
[05:44] <Stormx2> christotoday: It will remove all of the packages which depend on that package.
[05:44] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I got the installer to run from the CD, now to get it to install
[05:44] <NickGarvey> christotoday: because it doesn't remember what you installed in addition, thats what aptitude is for
[05:44] <Stormx2> christotoday: But if it is a meta package, for example, kubuntu-desktop, that won't work
[05:44] <snoops> XaviusShadow oh awesome.. how'd you manage that?
[05:44] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Went into the basement, took the drives out of my comp, sledgehammered it and built a new one :)
[05:45] <christotoday> can aptitude and apt-get work together, or does aptitude only know about packages installed with aptitude?
[05:45] <_fluffee> "<Stormx2> christotoday: Wait, depends" We'll all need depends given a long enough wait.  Sorry.  Not being snarky, just, you know.
[05:45] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Literally sledgehammered it
[05:45] <cute_bettong> what is mesa? and why is my ati card useing it?
[05:45] <cute_bettong> is there a way to change that?
[05:45] <NickGarvey> !ati > cute_bettong
[05:45] <snoops> XaviusShadow a lot of work!
[05:46] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Nah, I've got old ghetto systems out the wazoo, I can build one just as crappy or crappier than the one I destroyed :)
[05:46] <Yagisan> cute_bettong: depends, if an old card, it's you 3d acceleration. Sure you want it to go ?
[05:46] <Yagisan> s/you/your'
[05:46] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I upgraded from a PII to a Celeron
[05:46] <Stormx2> _fluffee: Eh? Didn't understand your comment
[05:46] <Stormx2> Everyone seems to be taking a jab at me today.
[05:46] <cute_bettong> Yagisan, um i thought the 3d stuff was supposed to be haveing ATI in there instead of mesa? is that ok is that going to slow me down at all?
[05:47] <fourat> i dont understand why my sound card does not permit two simultaneous sound sources working, it says (device is busy) whenever a second application want to play sound, example: if amarok is playing, xmms will not play, neither audacity, neither any other sound players
[05:47] <Stormx2> I'm off to surf oink :)
[05:47] <jrattner1> fourat, use artsd it will all work at once then
[05:47] <cute_bettong> Yagisan, its an ati radeon 7000VE card if the mesa isen't going to cause problems then no problem here ^_^
[05:47] <Yagisan> cute_bettong: on my ATI 7500, all 3d acceleration is provided by mesa. Some newer cards are have binary only drivers. Depends on your card
[05:48] <Yagisan> cute_bettong: keep mesa
[05:48] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Only problem with the case is it's a mini-ATX so I can't fit no drives in there at all... just a cd drive and a HD... gonna switch it's case here soon
[05:48] <snoops> miniitx are very cute
[05:49] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I'm not going for "cute" i'm going for a box that actually runs ubuntu
[05:49] <Yagisan> cute_bettong: run "glxinfo | grep Direct" in a terminal, and if the output is "direct rendering: Yes" it's fine
[05:50] <cute_bettong> Yagisan, it dosen't say anything O_o just goes back to the prompt
[05:50] <alexicon> yay!! thanks ballessay its all good now :D got it working on dhcp, didnt need to bother with resolv in the end
[05:50] <alexicon> :D
[05:50] <XaviusShadow> snoops btw, when I'm installing and it's trying to boot the kernal, I keep getting I/O error messages, does that mean the drives bad?
[05:50] <cute_bettong> brb gonna try something
[05:50] <snoops> not sure XaviusShadow I don't memorize io errors
[05:51] <fourat> jrattner1, man artsd
[05:51] <fourat> Aucune entre de manuel pour artsd
[05:51] <fourat> See 'man 7 undocumented' for help when manual pages are not available.
[05:51] <XaviusShadow> snoops it's sector errors, I/O error hda sector 0, 120, ect.
[05:51] <snoops> could be bad hdd then as you say
[05:52] <darkyoshi372> I'd like to use VMWare, but I have no idea what to do with the .tar file they give. Could anyone help me out?
[05:52] <XaviusShadow> snoops: I'm gonna regret this... but I'm throwing the 100 gig in it then
[05:52] <JOb> is there anyway I can use the windows bootloader to load ubuntu instead of grub
[05:52] <alexicon> darkyoshi372: tar xvf filename
[05:52] <ballessay> alexicon: ok, nice
[05:52] <dudleh> is the text installer available on the desktop cd?
[05:52] <jrattner1> fourat, sudo apt-get install artsd
[05:52] <darkyoshi372> alexicon:  that's all I have to do? It will automatically copy to the right place?
[05:52] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Oh and btw, the problem with the disk not running was the bios was too old and beat up to recognize the boot files for the cd
[05:52] <alexicon> darkyoshi372: thats will unpack it where it is now. when you install it, it will go to the right place
[05:52] <snoops> nope dudleh
[05:53] <dudleh> ok, is there anyway to resize the damn installer window?
[05:53] <darkyoshi372> okay
[05:53] <XaviusShadow> !language
[05:53] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:53] <darkyoshi372> I haven't downloaded it yet :P
[05:53] <cute_bettong> hmm i take it he left
[05:53] <alexicon> hehe
[05:53] <dudleh> i'm stuck at 640x480 and can't see the window fully..
[05:53] <JOb> is there anyway I can use the windows bootloader to load ubuntu instead of grub
[05:54] <jrattner1> dudleh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xor
[05:54] <alexicon> darkyoshi372: i think vmware has a friendly gui installer. shouldnt be too bad once you unpack it
[05:54] <snoops> don't think so JOb..
[05:54] <darkyoshi372> alexicon: Since my 5 gigabit net connection is giving me a file at 20k per second, I'll have to leave and thank you so kindly for your help!
[05:54] <snoops> JOb I believe there are other bootloaders for windows which do allow it though
[05:54] <XaviusShadow> JOb good luck on that, I just went through that... prolly wasted almost 10 hrs on it for a failed attempt
[05:54] <JOb> which ones snoops?
[05:54] <dudleh> its due to hardware limitations on the laptop its on with integrated video ram, so doubt it'd work
[05:55] <snoops> JOb sorry don't remember the names.. I remember seeing someone using it.. what's the issue with using grub though?
[05:55] <JOb> I installed ubuntu, then windows xp over wrote the mbr, and no longer have a livecd, so need a way of booting into ubuntu, and the super grub disc didn't work snoops
[05:55] <debugger_> hi
[05:56] <snoops> JOb oh! Well you can reinstall grub.. grab your desktop live cd..
[05:56] <snoops> I'll get the link
[05:56] <JOb> I was just wondering was there an alternative before downloading the 700mb
[05:56] <cute_bettong> can someone help me with this?
[05:56] <cute_bettong> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16840
[05:56] <varsendaggr> hi if anyone needs to run windows forget about dual booting   set up a virtual machine    a la vmplayer
[05:56] <cute_bettong> i don't know if that is correct or not
[05:57] <snoops> JOb no no you don't have to reinstall the 700mb.. just need to reinstall grub.. it's small and such
[05:57] <snoops> you can do it from the live cd
[05:57] <cute_bettong> but i assume that anything that says slow is not good lol
[05:57] <XaviusShadow> snoops: He doesn't have the livecd snoops
[05:57] <kbrooks> cute_bettong: um
[05:57] <JOb> snoops, I don't have the livecd, thats the problem
[05:57] <cute_bettong> kbrooks, ?
[05:58] <XaviusShadow> JOb: You can try and find the grubs download off of the wiki
[05:58] <kbrooks> cute_bettong: direct rendering is only for 3d
[05:58] <UNDERsoN> hello
[05:58] <snoops> uhh!.. do you have any linux live cd's?
[05:58] <kbrooks> cute_bettong: not 2d
[05:58] <XaviusShadow> JOb: I saw it somewhere... it's just the question of where
[05:58] <jumper> hi who can help me to find drivers for my pinnacle pctv DVB usb device?
[05:58] <UNDERsoN> smomebody saw crimsun
[05:58] <kbrooks> cute_bettong: u dont need 3d if u dont want 2 play 3d games
[05:58] <JOb> snoops, not handy. I was just wondering was there a faster/easier way than getting a livecd
[05:58] <XaviusShadow> JOb: Gimme a sec and I'll backtrack, see if I can find it again
[05:59] <kbrooks> cute_bettong: such as tux racer
[05:59] <cute_bettong> kbrooks, i am just trying to figure out if this dumb ati card is working right and yes i play games like counterstrike and half life and ut04 and neverwinter nights all requre d3d and such
[05:59] <snoops> you can install grub for windows JOb.. never tried it though
[05:59] <snoops> http://www.geocities.com/lode_leroy/grubinstall/
[05:59] <rpedro> jumper: /join #v4l
[05:59] <jumper> rpedro, tnx
[06:00] <debugger_> how can a reach http://packages.ubuntu.com/ from the ubuntu.com?  I don't see that link anywere :(
[06:00] <XaviusShadow> JOb: http://sarovar.org/download.php/672/grub_for_dos-0.4.1pre22.tar.gz
[06:00] <darkyoshi372> Hi all, again, the VMware installer asked me where my desktop menu entry files are. Where might they be?
[06:00] <cute_bettong> kbrooks, so any idea if it's right
[06:00] <XaviusShadow> JOb or you can use snoops since he was faster
[06:00] <snoops> oh umm hmm JOb this might be more suited http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php
[06:00] <cute_bettong> and does anyone know how to get k3b to burn mp4's to audio cd for some reason it wont let me and i am in gnome
[06:01] <snoops> "Super Grub Disk is a bootable floppy or cdrom oriented towards system rescue, and more specifically to boot and restore of boot." <- sounds like what you're after JOb :)
[06:01] <JOb> cute_bettong, you can play ut2k4 and nvn in linux natively, and steam with cedega, as for your card, you'll need the fglrx driver, but ati aren't the best for linux
[06:01] <ryanpg> so... is there any way to get an Applications folder that reflects the "main menu" contents ala OSX?
[06:02] <cute_bettong> says something about not being able to burn a file extension m4a? why? k3b shouldl do that right?
[06:02] <ccooke> JOb: In all honesty, the ATI drivers are very similar to the nvidia onces, when it comes to ease of installation and use.
[06:02] <addy_> hi - is this the right place to ask questions about things that broke when i upgraded to LTS? (pcmcia serial driver)
[06:02] <ccooke> JOb: They'er also a *hell* of a lot faster than they used to be.
[06:02] <darkyoshi372> Anybody? Are my desktop menu entry files in [/usr/share/applications]  or somewhere else?
[06:02] <Otacon22> anybody know how I can indicate to sources.list to take some deb in my pc as sources?
[06:02] <cute_bettong> JOb, yea i downloaded the fglrx driver and stuff
[06:02] <alexicon> how do you mean darkyoshi372
[06:02] <cwillu> Otacon22: don't want to do that, just dpkg -i <the deb file>
[06:03] <darkyoshi372> alexicon: , the VMware installer asked me where my desktop menu entry files are. Where might they be?
[06:03] <cute_bettong> how do i burn an .m4a file to audio cd?
[06:03] <cwillu> Otacon22: or just double click the deb file if running dapper
[06:03] <JOb> cute_bettong, k3b doesn't support acc/mp4 audio, try converting with soundconvertor, as for fglrx, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and when selecting a driver choose fglrx, then restart x
[06:03] <alexicon> oh. hrmm im not sure what that means :$
[06:03] <Stormx2> GNOME haa crashed *again*!
[06:03] <darkyoshi372> should I just use the default and hope for the best?
[06:03] <matttail> Hi, I followed a ubuntu wiki article a couple of moths ago to manually upgrade my firefox installation, becuase the latest aviable through ubuntu package manage wasn't the most rescent.  But now I've just upgraded from brezy badger to LTS and I noticed that there's a newer version than what I'm running through the pakcage manager.  Can someone point me towards a tutorial to transfer my booksmarks and passowrds and whatnot ov
[06:03] <matttail> er to the default version so I can use that again?
[06:03] <alexicon> i dont use gnome, so dont know :( sorry
[06:03] <alexicon> yeah darkyoshi372 id go with default :P
[06:04] <darkyoshi372> okay, thanks!
[06:04] <cute_bettong> JOb, i did do that..... i followed the howto provided by ubotu installed the driver and made the nessisary changes
[06:04] <alexicon> if it doesnt find the menu you can still run from commandline :)
[06:04] <cwillu> matttail: where did you install firefox to?
[06:04] <addy_> so i had a card that used to work and now i get:
[06:04] <Otacon22> cwillu, my problem is that i what to disinstall a program and I have tried apt-get remove but apt think that the program isn't installed than I think that if I put the deb in sources list and then installa from apt then apt can remove it
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: IO ports 0x100-0x4ff: Function not implemented
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xc00-0xcf7: Function not implemented
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: memory 0xc0000-0xfffff: Function not implemented
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: memory 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: Function not implemented
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: memory 0x60000000-0x60ffffff: Function not implemented
[06:04] <addy_> cardmgr[8952] : could not adjust resource: IO ports 0xa00-0xaff: Function not implemented
[06:04] <_fluffee> IS there a 'how-to' for off-line updates?
[06:04] <cute_bettong> serpintine cannot burn m4a files either O_o
[06:04] <jrattner1> matti, just save ~/.firefox or whatever it is
[06:04] <Stormx2> My GNOME panel is unresponsive... any ideas?
[06:04] <matti> jrattner1: :)
[06:04] <darkyoshi372> skill gnome-panel
[06:04] <mc__> !pastebin > addy_
[06:04] <cwillu> Otacon22: no, dpkg should be able to uninstall it if installed by deb, sources.list is only for listing new apps
[06:04] <jrattner1> !skill
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about skill
[06:05] <cwillu> Otacon22: if you removed _everything_ from sources.list, the stuff you already had installed would still show up
[06:05] <alexicon> lol
[06:05] <Otacon22> cwillu, how I disinstall by dpkg?
[06:05] <mmilo> argh!!
[06:05] <darkyoshi372> What's that package that has everything a person needs to compile a C app?
[06:05] <mc__> Otacon22, dpkg --remove
[06:05] <XaviusShadow> snoops: It was a problem with the hard-drive. It seems my computer doesn't like XBox hard-drives
[06:05] <Otacon22> tnx
[06:05] <mmilo> gtkpod doesn't support videos
[06:05] <mc__> !thx
[06:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about thx
[06:05] <matttail> cwillu: I don't remember where I installed it to.  I just followed the wiki article and did what it said.  :)  I think it wasn't the default place so it wouldn't over write the other install.
[06:05] <snoops> XaviusShadow uhh gosh man
[06:05] <snowblink> darkyoshi372, build-essential
[06:05] <darkyoshi372> thanks!
[06:05] <mmilo> howdy snoops
[06:05] <cwillu> matttail:  I _think_ it ends up sharing the profile directory
[06:06] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Hey XP Accepted it and even reformatted it... guess my comp is too ghetto old
[06:06] <cwillu> matttail: in your home folder, you'll have a ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles
[06:06] <wweasel> Hey all. I am planning on re-installing Windows on my dual booted computer today.  OBV I will lose grub. Could someone link me to how to restore Grub?
[06:06] <cute_bettong> J
[06:06] <snoops> wweasel got the live cd?
[06:06] <thoreauputic> !grub
[06:06] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:06] <XaviusShadow> snoops: Woohoo ubuntu is finally installing!
[06:06] <cwillu> matttail: in profiles, there'll be a folder named a bunch of letters and numbers;  make a backup of that,
[06:06] <FunnyLookinHat> wweasel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:07] <mmilo> snoops gtkpod doesn't support videos :S
[06:07] <wweasel> Yep. Thanks guys
[06:07] <snoops> awesome XaviusShadow - I don't have your patients I would have given up if it was that much effort
[06:07] <addy_> the other message i get is '[17184303.024000]  1.1: RequestIO: Configuration locked' - how do i tell if this is a kernel setting that needs recompiling?
[06:07] <cwillu> matttail: but I _think_ firefox may reuse it when you install, and if it doesn't, the contents of that folder are what you want to move to the new profile dir
[06:07] <cute_bettong> can someone tell me if this xorg.conf file i made for ati works right? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16842
[06:07] <cwillu> how do you clear the dns cache?
[06:08] <XaviusShadow> snoops: New problem. "Your cdrom could not be mounted. This probably means that your cdrom is not in the drive. Would you like to insert it and try again?"
[06:08] <matttail> cwillu: Ok, thanks.  I  will try that.
[06:09] <darkyoshi372> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match my running kernel?
[06:09] <darkyoshi372> Does anybody know? :P
[06:09] <cwillu> darkyoshi372: have you installed them?
[06:09] <darkyoshi372> um.... I installed build-essential thingy
[06:09] <Pip> anyone here use xrdp?
[06:09] <addy_> /usr/src/linux-headers-[version] 
[06:09] <varsendaggr> Pip, what is that?
[06:09] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, congratulation i saw you here 2 day for that insalling :)
[06:10] <Noeve> Evening. I'm having a slight problem - I can't seem to access HDA2, which is my Windows partition. I can't manage to change the permissions, either. Do you know what I can do ?
[06:10] <darkyoshi372> thanks, addy_
[06:10] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Thanks, but now I'm having problems :(
[06:10] <vdm> Hi, i cant start xorg because it cannot move the log file.. any ideas?
[06:10] <cwillu> Noeve: how were you changing the permissions?
[06:10] <XVampireX> Hi, how do I make the console transparent?
[06:10] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: It's claiming that it can't mount my cd-rom because it's not in the drive, but I just checked and made sure it was in the drive.
[06:11] <darkyoshi372> addy_: I have nothing in that folder, how do I install the kernel headers?
[06:11] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[06:11] <Noeve> Cwillu, I tried simply by logging on as root, which I know isn't the best way to do it... I'm just not friendly enough with the console yet.
[06:11] <Stormx2> XVampireX: Your probably want xterm. try xterm --help
[06:11] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, how deep your knowluage on CLI
[06:11] <cwillu> darkyoshi372: synaptic, search for linux I believe, install the header package that says it'll always install the latest header package
[06:11] <Pro_Virus> hi all
[06:11] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: CLI is what?
[06:12] <addy_> dark: apt-get install linux-kernel-headers
[06:12] <darkyoshi372> Okay, thanks
[06:12] <XVampireX> Stormx2, thanks
[06:12] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Nvm Command Line Interface... I'm decent with dos
[06:12] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, did you know hot to open the terminal?
[06:12] <cwillu> Noeve: root as in, you set a root password, or did you sudo?
[06:12] <foxiness> how*
[06:12] <Pro_Virus> Why is everyone talking about Ubuntu presently? There was a time it was fedora, debian, gentoo and now ubuntu
[06:12] <cwillu> Noeve: not that it matters I guess;  boot up into your normal user, open a terminal window, and holler at me when you're ready :)
[06:12] <Noeve> No, I logged in as root, I'm not sure of the commands I can use with sudo to change the permissions.
[06:12] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: I didn't even get it installed yet... It's screwing up on the install
[06:13] <Noeve> Cwillu, ready :)
[06:13] <darkyoshi372> addy_ and cwillu: I have the kernel headers already!
[06:13] <mmilo> yo snoops how do i switch to root access?
[06:13] <vdm> Cant open Xorg.?.log either :(
[06:13] <darkyoshi372> Where are they?
[06:13] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, what you have now ? is that ubuntu ?
[06:13] <cwillu> darkyoshi372:  'locate headers' should give you a clue
[06:13] <darkyoshi372> okay!
[06:13] <cwillu> Noeve: okay, have you made a folder in /media yet?
[06:13] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Right now I'm watching my comp fight with the ubuntu install from my XP comp
[06:13] <Noeve> I made /mnt/windows.
[06:14] <cwillu> Noeve: or had any luck previous getting it kinda working?
[06:14] <foxiness> Pro_Virus, and other ppl talk about vista what you think is better
[06:14] <cwillu> Noeve: okay, we'll fix that :p
[06:14] <Noeve> Cwillu, you're making me sound like a complete disaster :P Anyway, fire away.
[06:14] <cwillu> Noeve: should be in /media, just so you know (it'll work either way, but media is intended for permanent mounts
[06:14] <cwillu> :p[
[06:14] <darkyoshi372> Gaaah! I did locate headers, and nothing relevant was found!
[06:14] <Pro_Virus> foxiness, lol. What I mean is why everyone seems to go on Ubuntu presently?
[06:14] <Noeve> Cwillu, ah. I learn. I'll delete /mnt/windows.
[06:14] <cwillu> Noeve: sudo mkdir /media/<what-you-want-to-call-it>
[06:15] <cwillu> darkyoshi372: did you _just_ install the headers/build-essential/whateveR?
[06:15] <darkyoshi372> yes... do I need to reinstall?
[06:15] <Obst> http://wir-sammeln-rueckflugtickets-fuer-argentinien.de/
[06:15] <cwillu> darkyoshi372: sudo updatedb first then :)
[06:15] <darkyoshi372> I mean rebood
[06:15] <Noeve> Cwillu, yep.
[06:15] <darkyoshi372> okay
[06:15] <cwillu> Noeve: do you know if it's ntfs or fat, your windows partition?
[06:16] <cwillu> Noeve: easier, newish computer running xp, or older computer running 95/98/me?
[06:16] <Noeve> FAT32.
[06:16] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Any idea why the installer stopped reading the cd in the middle of the install?
[06:16] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[06:16] <cwillu> yay, that makes things sooooo much easier :)
[06:16] <Noeve> It's a new computer, but a laptop.
[06:16] <foxiness> Pro_Virus, coz , ubuntu has the idea many ppl on linux side wait it many years ,gnome frindely + hardwaresupport+ free+ fast +20000 package and manymore
[06:16] <_fluffee> I am missing a'preferences' button in 'sudo update-manager', can anuone assist?
[06:17] <dudley> anyone know where i can download the text installer, or what its called?
[06:17] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, no
[06:17] <Pro_Virus> foxiness, and debian hasn't it all?
[06:17] <XaviusShadow> Anyone know why my livecd would start installing and then just stop accepting the cd?
[06:18] <cwillu> Noeve: try this:  sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -o rw,fmask=0777,dmask=0777
[06:18] <mmilo> Pro_Virus: ubuntu is slightly different from other linux distros
[06:18] <cwillu> XaviusShadow: burnt or pressed cd?
[06:18] <foxiness> Pro_Virus, did it come with gnome 12.14 ? one cd ? update-manager soon
[06:18] <Nilsy> XaviusShadow, did you test the cd?
[06:18] <cwillu> XaviusShadow: what nilsy said :)
[06:18] <mmilo> in that it sites on top of debian and provides a user friendly management interface
[06:18] <XaviusShadow> cwillu: I tested the cd... Hell that was 10 hours ago... I don't remember... how do I test it?
[06:19] <cwillu> XaviusShadow: there should be an option when you boot
[06:19] <cwillu> I think
[06:19] <Nilsy> XaviusShadow, when you boot it, there is an option to test the cd
[06:19] <Noeve> Cwillu, "/dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/windows busy. According to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on media/hda2"
[06:19] <cwillu> Noeve: ah, right
[06:19] <cwillu> Noeve: sudo umount /mnt/windows
[06:19] <Noeve> Cwillu, I could access this drive as Root, but not as normal user.
[06:19] <cwillu> Noeve: then run that command again
[06:19] <N3o21> How can I disable one function in Xgl/Compiz ? I want ot remove function what causes that windows in backgrounds is in grayscale.
[06:20] <Pro_Virus> foxiness gnome 2.14... it should be in experimental environment, one CD yes, update-management yes (with apt-get)
[06:20] <Noeve> Cwillu, you mean sudo umount /media/hda2 ?
[06:20] <Nilsy> N3o21, figure out which plugin do that, and hten disable it ;)
[06:20] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, did you have the other cd ,the one you can do the install from text-mode
[06:20] <cwillu> Noeve: no, sudo umount /mnt/windows
[06:20] <Noeve> Not found.
[06:20] <cwillu> ahh
[06:20] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[06:21] <cwillu> Noeve: I don't suppose you can read /media/hda2 right now can you?
[06:21] <Noeve> Nope, that's the problem :P
[06:21] <XaviusShadow> cwillu: I tested the cd and it's saying it can't find it.
[06:21] <Noeve> I just need to set RW permissions on it.
[06:21] <cwillu> I though you had it mounted on /mnt/windows?
[06:21] <Noeve> I can read it as root, but this system insulted me and saying it was stupid running IRC as root :P
[06:21] <Noeve> No, I created that directory.
[06:21] <alexicon> ok so having a lot more problems with dapper after dist-update... xine says it cannot find any audio drivers...   im guessing this is all to do with this restricted kernel its made me get. but how can i get everything loaded again?? it cant even find the cdrom now
[06:21] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: I was doing the install from text mode
[06:21] <Noeve> It's mounted on /media/hda2. I just have no permissions to it.
[06:21] <cwillu> Noeve: okay, you're right then, umount /media/hda2
[06:22] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, livecd! or text mode?
[06:22] <Noeve> Done.
[06:22] <N3o21> Nilsy. but I don't know what plugin causes it
[06:22] <alexicon> !audio drivers >alexicon
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio drivers
[06:22] <Noeve> And the last command done too.
[06:22] <alexicon> !audio >alexcon
[06:22] <cwillu> Noeve: no errors?
[06:22] <Noeve> Still no access to the drive. No errors though.
[06:22] <Noeve> But the drive's changed name :P
[06:22] <alexicon> !audio >alexicon
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[06:22] <Noeve> So it worked.
[06:23] <alexicon> !drivers >alexicon
[06:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about drivers
[06:23] <alexicon> nrrr
[06:23] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: I downloaded the ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso
[06:23] <alexicon> has anyone else here done a dist-update for ubuntu?
[06:24] <Noeve> Alexicon, I was thinking about it, but this install is fragile enough, so I probably won't :P
[06:24] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, good and this what you use now to install ?
[06:24] <dr_willis> alexicon,  all the time.
[06:24] <alexicon> yeah i dont recommend it Noeve
[06:24] <Nilsy> N3o21, try google, or read the docs for each plugin
[06:24] <alexicon> i wanted new packages though :'(
[06:24] <alexicon> now nothing works
[06:24] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: When I went to install the top option said "Install in Textmode
[06:24] <RaoulMillais> is there a quick and easy way to set up an SMTP server to send mail from my machine in dapper?  i am using evolution to check my gmail, but the gmail smtp server is really unreliable, and i have to keep onj retrying until the mail actually sends
[06:24] <Nilsy> that was how I figured out which ones to disable until I got tired of it all
[06:24] <Noeve> Alexicon, this is installed on my laptop, and Acer is BAD with Linux.
[06:24] <alexicon> this is a dell laptop
[06:24] <Noeve> Cwillu, any other ideas ?
[06:24] <alexicon> and it was running fine
[06:24] <cwillu> Noeve: I think I got the fmask and dmask backwards
[06:24] <alexicon> but i think its this kernel the update made me get
[06:24] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: But while it was installing and checking the disk for errors it kept saying it couldn't find the disc
[06:24] <Noeve> Aha. Just switch them ?
[06:24] <alexicon> i have no drivers for anything
[06:25] <alexicon> its really frustrating cos i dont know which ones im supposed to load
[06:25] <cwillu> no
[06:25] <stack_> I installed amanda from source into PREFIX /usr/local... some of the binaries have to be setuid root, but when they are setup that way, they cannot run.  I get permission denied... any ideas?
[06:25] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, oh i know why ,now i get the idea
[06:25] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Know how to fix it?
[06:25] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, what the speed you use when you burn it ?
[06:26] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: 16x I think
[06:26] <cwillu> sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -o remount,rw,fmask=0000,dmask=0000
[06:26] <alexicon> dr_willis: do you know what modules need to be loaded to get sound working?
[06:26] <alexicon> or are you just saying that your update works fine..
[06:26] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, burn it again with 8x and try again
[06:26] <cwillu> Noeve: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -o remount,rw,fmask=0000,dmask=0000
[06:26] <XaviusShadow> foxiness I hop you're right... I have one last blank cd to try this on
[06:26] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[06:27] <Noeve> Cwillu, looking good, let me test fully, and I'll get back to you :)
[06:27] <rsk> how do you install a theme?
[06:27] <alexicon> is there a way to list all possible modules that i can modprobe???
[06:27] <linuxboy> I have a file in /lib called:klibc-t2jM36h7OcxUNTDzncfER2p7kd4.so its from the libklibc package
[06:27] <cwillu> Noeve: k
[06:27] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, i have like that problem on the past and it solved with this idea i get it from #debian ,who tellme about the burn speed
[06:27] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, and i hope it will for you too
[06:28] <cwillu> Noeve: right now, that sets the drive to full access to anybody how has any logon on the machine;  probably not _quite_ what we want
[06:28] <cwillu> Noeve: also, we'll need to change /etc/fstab to make it permanent
[06:28] <dr_willis> alexicon,  many people have used the dist-upgrade with success - ive never had any problems with sound  either.
[06:28] <dudley> what package contains 'make'?
[06:28] <Noeve> Cwillu, I have read, but I couldn't manage to write to it.
[06:29] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Well here goes
[06:29] <cwillu> Noeve: so no read, eh?
[06:29] <Noeve> Cwillu, seems read-only.
[06:29] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: I'd cross my finger but that would massively interfere with my typing ability, so I'll have settle for crossed toes :)
[06:29] <foxiness> bye
[06:30] <alexicon> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[06:30] <cwillu> Noeve: can you do:  "ls /media -l"  and paste me the single line that has the mount in it?
[06:30] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, haha
[06:30] <Noeve> Cwillu, the Permissions tab under properties - they're all greyed out and none are selected, but I still managed to read some files.
[06:30] <alexicon> i get no such device for network [now fixed thanks to ballessay]  no audio device, no cdrom device etcetc
[06:30] <XaviusShadow> foxiness: Nicotene break... this is very stressful... and I wiped '98 so I don't have a fallback
[06:31] <Noeve> Cwillu, drwxr-xr-x  2 root root    48 2006-05-20 20:58 hda2
[06:31] <Noeve> Oh, wait, sorry
[06:31] <Noeve> dr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 12288 2006-06-30 10:53 windows
[06:32] <cwillu> noeve: okay, I might get this right one of these times :p
[06:32] <foxiness> XaviusShadow, its time for me to go :) , i hope to see you here tommoro from ubuntu :)
[06:32] <foxiness> bye for now
[06:32] <Noeve> :D
[06:32] <cute_bettong> !restricted
[06:32] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:32] <ballessay> alexicon: are you sure you have loaded all the needed modules for this devices?
[06:33] <alexicon> no ballessay :/
[06:33] <cwillu> Noeve: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -o remount,rw,umask=000
[06:33] <alexicon> restricted.. ok need to find out how to get a non restricted kernel
[06:33] <cwillu> Noeve: and then ls... again
[06:33] <alexicon> !restricted >alexicon
[06:33] <ballessay> alexicon: which laptop-model do you have?
[06:33] <HorzA-> what do i need to get this to work? configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[06:33] <alexicon> dell inspiron 600m
[06:33] <cwillu> HorzA-: apt-get install build-essential I believe
[06:33] <HorzA-> cwillu, then i can compile stuff myself?
[06:34] <cwillu> yep
[06:34] <Noeve> Cwillu, same.
[06:34] <cwillu> HorzA-: some packages may need other random libraries install, but yes
[06:34] <HorzA-> goodie :D
[06:34] <Noeve> dr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 12288 2006-06-30 10:53 windows
[06:34] <Noeve> Cwillu, why is hda2 still appearing in that list though ?
[06:35] <cwillu> noeve:  sudo chmod a+w /media/windows/.
[06:35] <cwillu> Noeve: they're just regular folders in there, until you mount something in them
[06:35] <cwillu> Noeve: so you can just delete it if you want, but I don't think it'll go away by itself
[06:36] <Noeve> If I'd mounted /dev/hda2 to /media/hda2, would there be 2 hda2s ?
[06:36] <SeanTater> Where might I find screensavers (I;m using KDE is that makes any difference)
[06:36] <Noeve> chmod: changing permissions of "/media/windows" : read-only file system.
[06:36] <alexicon> restricted seems to just be about the software it uses... not about restricting kernel modules...
[06:36] <alexicon> ballessay: is there a way to list all possible loadable modules??
[06:36] <cwillu> Noeve: nope;  you can't mount anything to a folder unless the folder already exists
[06:36] <Ribs> Noeve: no.. There would be /dev/hda2 and /media/hda2
[06:37] <Tommy2k4>  my monitor used to give frequency out of range errors for no reason (not when booting up, it happened randomly after id been booted up for ages) when i was using 24bit / 1280x1024
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> i switched to 16bit / 1024x768 and it fixed it
[06:37] <Tommy2k4> do you think if i use 1280x1024 but keep 16bit it wont crash still
[06:37] <cwillu> Noeve: sudo mount /dev/hda2 /media/windows -t vfat -o remount,rw,umask=000
[06:37] <Noeve> Ribs, using ls /media -l   I get a list of six things, of which 2 CD-Roms - I only have one - and then I get hda1, hda2, sda1, and windows. But hda2 is mounted to windows.
[06:38] <Ribs> Noeve: ls is a bad way to see what's mounted on your system
[06:38] <Ribs> Noeve: just use "mount"
[06:38] <alexicon> actually im just going go to back to knoppix write lsmod to a file and load it into modules file for ubuntu...
[06:38] <alexicon> bb
[06:39] <Noeve> Cwillu, same problem.
[06:39] <cwillu> Noeve: does 'mount' show hda2 mounted anywhere else?
[06:39] <ikarux> Hi all
[06:39] <Beta_M> hi ikarux
[06:40] <ikarux> I having problem with compilation of kernel, somebody can help me?
[06:41] <Noeve> Cwillu, whoops, maybe I said something stupid : mount gives /dev/hda2 on /media/windows type ntfs (rw,umask=000)
[06:41] <Noeve>      -- it might be NTFS :P
[06:41] <ikarux> I have kernel 2.6.17, but I want compile a new kernel (2.6.8)
[06:41] <DamianFinol> Hello, where cn I download the live cd?
[06:41] <cwillu> heh
[06:41] <Noeve> DamianFinol, there are mirrors on the Ubuntu website.
[06:41] <Noeve> Cwillu, apologies.
[06:41] <DamianFinol> But, what's the name of the iso?
[06:41] <cwillu> Noeve: no problem
[06:41] <DamianFinol> As in, I see, Desktop CD and Server CD
[06:42] <cwillu> Noeve: can you read from a regular user right now?
[06:42] <ccooke> ikarux: where did you get 2.6.17 from?
[06:42] <Noeve> Cwillu, I can read hda2 as a regular user, yes.
[06:42] <Noeve> But it seems quite laggy when I open it for some reason.
[06:42] <ikarux> but make menuconfig give me a message (now I have /usr/src/linux -> kernel-souvces-2.6.8)
[06:42] <cwillu> Noeve: how desperate were you to have write?
[06:42] <Noeve> Cwillu, it's not urgent, but it is important :P
[06:42] <FunkyDiscoMan> http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso
[06:42] <ikarux> /usr/include/bits/socket.h:304:24: asm/socket.h: File not exist
[06:42] <DamianFinol> FunkyDiscoMan Is that the LIVECD?
[06:43] <cwillu> noeve, okay, then we start having fun :p
[06:43] <FunkyDiscoMan> it is both with dapper
[06:43] <skavenge> they are all livecd's as well as install
[06:43] <DamianFinol> mhmh, why when I got the ship-it cd's I got two cd's, one install and one live?
[06:43] <cwillu> Noeve: there's a package called captive-ntfs, that needs to be installed (I don't think there's a suitable ubuntu build that you can apt-get)
[06:43] <Noeve> Cwillu, ouch. I hope with won't screw up the install, you had no idea how many times I tried installing Linux on this thing. I must have tried six distros, too.
[06:43] <ikarux> ccooke: it is in the knoppix dist
[06:43] <ccooke> ikarux: you should not use an old kernel line 2.6.8 on Ubuntu.
[06:43] <cwillu> Noeve: it basically wraps the microsoft ntfs drivers
[06:44] <skavenge> DamianFinol: for dapper? or breezy most likely
[06:44] <cwillu> Noeve: and is pretty much the only reliable way of writing to ntfs on linux
[06:44] <ccooke> ikarux: this is #ubuntu - you'd be better off asking for help in a different channel
[06:44] <Noeve> Cwillu, can Linux not write to NTFS then ?
[06:44] <Noeve> Cwillu, ah.
[06:44] <DamianFinol> skavenge Was breezy, is there one for dapper?
[06:44] <cwillu> Noeve: there's limited support, and being actively worked on, but it's slow going, and the nature of the beast makes it dangerous to use experimental builds
[06:44] <skavenge> DamianFinol: yes, and in breezy they were two cds, now in dapper it is all on one
[06:44] <FunkyDiscoMan> there is kernel support of ntfs now but ....
[06:45] <DamianFinol> skavenge Good to know, thanks.
[06:45] <Noeve> Cwillu, ah, OK. How would I get captive-ntfs, then ?
[06:45] <ikarux> ccooke: I know, but my problem is not the distribution, my problem is that I think my headers are not complete...
[06:45] <cwillu> Noeve: one sec
[06:45] <alexicon> what kernel is dapper on??
[06:45] <alexicon> 2.6.??
[06:45] <cwillu> 16 I think
[06:45] <alexicon> k
[06:45] <ikarux> ccooke: the queston is what package is missing ?
[06:45] <ccooke> ikarux: this has nothing to do with ubuntu, though. Please ask your question somewhere else - #knoppix, for instance.
[06:46] <ikarux> ccooke: Ok, thanks anyway
[06:46] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[06:46] <XaviusShadow> ok, ubuntu is really getting me ticked
[06:46] <FunkyDiscoMan> dapper is on 2.6.15-25-386
[06:46] <alexicon> cheers
[06:46] <alexicon> so all my 2.6.12 modules should work on it then
[06:47] <XaviusShadow> I got the installer done, got the whole way up to checking the discs integrity and when it tries to mount the disc it says it can't find it.
[06:47] <ciaron> how do i stop ubuntu from getting resolv info from the router?
[06:47] <ciaron> ie how do i manually override
[06:48] <alexicon> ciaron: you probably have to turn off dhcp, and edit /etc/resolv.conf
[06:48] <cwillu> ciaron: admin|networking, should be able to change the dns by hand
[06:48] <ciaron> i can make the changes but dhcp overrides it
[06:48] <ciaron> and i still want to use dhcp for everything but nameservers
[06:48] <cwillu> Noeve: is your nick registered on freenode?
[06:49] <FunkyDiscoMan> use chattr on your resolv.conf file
[06:49] <Noeve> Cwillu, should be. Let me check.
[06:49] <Noeve> Cwillu, yep, identifie.d
[06:49] <alexicon> ciaron: try /etc/nsswitch.conf
[06:49] <FunkyDiscoMan> chattr +i - to be exact
[06:49] <FunkyDiscoMan> chattr +i , to be exact
[06:51] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron: you will have to be su, "sudo chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf
[06:52] <ciaron> nm i've found the option in the dhcp conf
[06:52] <ciaron> to stop it requested nameservers
[06:52] <jrattner1> Hello
[06:53] <jrattner1> I am not a crook
[06:53] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron: either way should work
[06:53] <concept10> !info ruby
[06:53] <ubotu> ruby: An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.2-1 (dapper), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB
[06:53] <concept10> !info ruby-1.8
[06:53] <ubotu> Package ruby-1.8 does not exist in dapper
[06:54] <concept10> !info ruby1.8
[06:54] <ubotu> ruby1.8: Interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.8. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.8.4-1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 183 kB, installed size 268 kB
[06:56] <jpgvietnam> hi all
[06:56] <FunkyDiscoMan> lo
[06:56] <jpgvietnam> ubuntu is good
[06:57] <FunkyDiscoMan> at what?
[06:57] <jpgvietnam> how to intall jdk 5.0 on ubuntu Linux ?
[06:57] <jpgvietnam> ?
[06:58] <_fluffee> How can I tell Ubby I've updates locally instead of it trying to download seventy-some megabytes over a dial-up?
[06:58] <FunkyDiscoMan> jpgvietnam check out http://gcc.gnu.org/java/ first
[06:58] <jpgvietnam> yes
[06:58] <Ribs> _fluffee: cd to the directory where you have them... and instruct dpkg to install the updates
[06:58] <jpgvietnam> thanks
[06:58] <Ribs> like... dpkg -i *.deb or so
[06:59] <FunkyDiscoMan> cool its not suns but GCC now has support - not full but its getting there
[06:59] <_fluffee> Thank you Ribs; Giving it a shot now..
[06:59] <Ribs> _fluffee: I'm only guessing here
[06:59] <Ribs> as I have broadband :>
[06:59] <Ribs> but I don't see why it wouldn't work
[06:59] <Ro1>  i was wondering...its so annying to write the long ssh -l bowli..... stuff and then get pswd and then paste it....i wrote a script so i just type ./host (name of docutment) and now i can get it to password without writing the ssh -l bowlingn.... stuff....how can i get it to automatically put the pswd in
[07:00] <jpgvietnam> thanks
[07:00] <Ribs> Ro1: Read up on SSH keys
[07:00] <Ro1> ok
[07:00] <Ribs> Ro1: they will allow you to connect to hosts without passwords
[07:00] <Ro1> theres no easy way of just puting it into the script
[07:00] <Ribs> I don't know
[07:00] <_fluffee> Ribs:  Can't be much worse than the frustration I've been experiencing <sad grin>, thanks.
[07:00] <Ribs> SSH keys is more secure, obviously
[07:00] <Ro1> ok
[07:01] <Ribs> as otherwise someone could just read the script, and get the passwords
[07:03] <jpgvietnam> jjjjj
[07:03] <FunkyDiscoMan> kkk
[07:04] <eddyt> SOmeone that can tel me how i can install my canon ip4200 from an rpm file in my ubuntu??
[07:04] <FunkyDiscoMan> jpgvietnam: gonna try gnu compiler?
[07:04] <_absolution_> is there a program out there that'll let me listen to radio?
[07:04] <harisund> Ro1 can I offer a suggestion
[07:04] <richee> asda
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> hey. why can i not compile programs with linux?
[07:05] <_absolution_> "internet radio"
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> I'm working inside of kdevelop.
[07:05] <richee> tuxtheslacker: u mean make
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> is there a list of files I need ot install.
[07:05] <greenpenguin13> _absolution_, quod libet
[07:05] <eddyt> anyone?
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> richee, no, I mean compile.
[07:05] <FunkyDiscoMan> absolution : rythmbox
[07:05] <harisund> tuxtheslacker no compiler gets installed by default. you will have to install it after a regular install
[07:05] <richee> Just install build-essential
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> harisund, which compiler should I install for C?
[07:05] <richee> tuxtheslacker: have u install the package
[07:05] <tuxtheslacker> gcc doen't appear to be in the repos.
[07:05] <_absolution_> ooh ok thanks
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> richee, I am writing a program.
[07:06] <harisund> tuxtheslacker gcc is what you need. it will be in the repos. have you enabled all repositories?
[07:06] <greenpenguin13> gcc is definately in the repos :D
[07:06] <richee> tuxtheslacker: what program?
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> harisund, yeah.
[07:06] <richee> C,C++
[07:06] <greenpenguin13> gcc is in the official repos anyway
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> !find gcc
[07:06] <ubotu> Found: gcc, gcc-3.3, gcc-3.3-base, gcc-3.4, gcc-3.4-base (and 19 others)
[07:06] <harisund> does anybody know why when I ssh into my box using putty, I have to use the escape key as meta key but if I use cygwin, alt key works fine?
[07:06] <tuxtheslacker> richee, I am writing a program and trying to compile it....
[07:07] <harisund> tuxtheslacker, you can install a meta package called "build-essential" which will give you all tools required for the building process, such as the compiler, make and stuff
[07:07] <tuxtheslacker> thank you harisund
[07:07] <richee> tuxtheslacker: what is the exact problem ur facing ?
[07:07] <richee> tuxtheslacker: describe
[07:07] <tuxtheslacker> richee, nothing now. I just needed ot know that ubuntu didn't come with a compiler installed.
[07:08] <richee> tuxtheslacker: If u want C,C++ compiler then install build-essential package
[07:08] <tuxtheslacker> aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[07:08] <tuxtheslacker> make: *** [all]  Error 1
[07:08] <tuxtheslacker> *** Exited with status: 2 ***
[07:08] <richee> ok
[07:08] <tuxtheslacker> richee, I've had it.
[07:08] <r1ddl3r> is anyone using freevo?
[07:09] <harisund> tuxtheslacker don't paste here .. ok besides that, maybe you are looking for a particular library that you do not have .. check up on that as well .
[07:09] <richee> Hmm! I dunno what package to install to solve this dependency
[07:09] <richee> freevo?
[07:09] <tuxtheslacker> harisund, this is a simple helloworld proggie that came with kdevelop.....
[07:10] <VieLGus-KuTaS> which file holds all the raid info?/
[07:10] <_fluffee> Ribs:  It seems to be accepting, I suppose it'll want to reboot eventually.  On the other paw it's time for this box's weekly backup, so I'll drop from this one.  Eventually I'll come back from lappy to thank you again, but if I don't?  Thanks again!
[07:11] <tuxtheslacker> aclocal: configure.in: 8: macro `AM_PROG_LIBTOOL' not found in library
[07:11] <tuxtheslacker> what does that mean?
[07:11] <alexicon> anyone here on a laptop
[07:11] <NickGarvey> you broke it
[07:11] <tuxtheslacker> liek it's not in the library... but I'm only using the iostream lib.
[07:11] <NickGarvey> !anyone
[07:11] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:11] <NickGarvey> alexicon: yes I am
[07:11] <alexicon> any laptop users want to PM me a list from their /etc/modules file :)
[07:12] <alexicon> looks like knoppix just loads everything... but i'll be slightly more disserening than that
[07:12] <tuxtheslacker> hello?
[07:12] <Paladine> so anyone know how to fix this (process:20220): Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib
[07:12] <LinuxwanaB> hey i just booted the live cd on my computer, then i mad a 24.1g partition for ubuntu but it is not formated, how do i format it, and how to i cut up the 24.1g partion into separte ones for root? i dont need swap.
[07:13] <LinuxwanaB> i was using gtparted
[07:16] <Rennen> so where is my kernel source?
[07:16] <Rennen> i am still a bit new to ubuntu
[07:17] <Rennen> I am an old gentoo user
[07:17] <kbrooks> Rennen: what do y ou want to do?
[07:17] <alexicon> NickGarvey: can you paste me the contents of /etc/modules in pm to me :)
[07:17] <alexicon> ^5 Rennen
[07:17] <Rennen> paly with my kernel, of course
[07:17] <alexicon> if i were you id go back to gentoo :P
[07:17] <alexicon> <3 gentoo
[07:17] <alexicon> strangled by art????
[07:17] <kbrooks> Rennen: what for?
[07:17] <Rennen> lol
[07:18] <Rennen> okay - this was the wrong place to come
[07:18] <alexicon> lol yeah
[07:18] <alexicon> whats up Rennen
[07:18] <sbartleylinux> Can someone tell me if ther is a similar page to this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam  but for individual hardware components like video cards?
[07:18] <Rennen> alexicon: i just need to know where they put the kernel source
[07:18] <tuxtheslacker> btw, I needed libtool
[07:18] <alexicon> sbartleylinux: you arent sba on dA are you????
[07:18] <sbartleylinux> alexicon: nope.
[07:19] <alexicon> kk
[07:19] <alexicon> dunno Rennen i too am familiar with gentoo lol
[07:19] <alexicon> anyway, time to try these modules..
[07:19] <foxiness> i want to use the bittorrent app on ubuntu :iwant to luanch it how:
[07:20] <animato> hello, how can i change the computer's anme?
[07:20] <animato> name
[07:21] <FunkyDiscoMan> try google : http://www.cpqlinux.com/hostname.html
[07:22] <_stev_> someone installed Ion window manager on ubuntu?
[07:22] <QRZ> animato:  The, 'hostname' command will allow you to do it.  If you want the change to be persistant, then change it in /etc/hostname.  Don't forget to update your /etc/hosts file though.
[07:22] <ciaron> any ideas why my mouse feels sluggish in ubuntu?
[07:22] <animato> eh?
[07:22] <NickGarvey> alexicon: I run suse
[07:23] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron its not battery is it?
[07:23] <Trigger_H> I accidently changed all the permissions on every file on my computer off of root, then back on.  Now sudo doesnt work.  Is there someway to reset the permissions?
[07:23] <ruskie__> hello i have 2 nics on my ubuntumachine, the first is onboard and running my network, the other is loaded but is not found via eth1 (the other is eth0) or via the firewall program Firestarter
[07:23] <ciaron> FunkyDiscoMan: nope
[07:23] <ruskie__> how do i "add" eth1 ?
[07:23] <FunkyDiscoMan> k just checking
[07:23] <alexicon> oh
[07:23] <alexicon> :P
[07:23] <alexicon> what you doin in here then NickGarvey lol
[07:23] <r1ddl3r> is acidrip in the default sources.list for dapper?
[07:24] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: acidrip is in the repos
[07:24] <Stormx2> AutoLoad failed for: /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so libaudacious.so.3.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <-- When trying to run an xchat plugin. The file is located here: /usr/local/lib/libaudacious.so.3.0.0 <-- how do I make it look for it there?
[07:25] <r1ddl3r> ardchoille, I must be missing that repo then, I cannot get it
[07:25] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: acidrip is in the multiverse repo. enable multiverse
[07:25] <NickGarvey> alexicon: go in #suse and see ;) no one in there
[07:25] <NickGarvey> alexicon: I mean some people but not as many as here
[07:25] <alexicon> heh
[07:25] <ardchoille> NickGarvey: so, basically, you're bored? lol
[07:25] <r1ddl3r> ardchoille, can you tell which one it is in and post it for me so I can get it?
[07:25] <alexicon> bugger
[07:26] <alexicon> well xine loads now...
[07:26] <QRZ> ruskie__:  eth1 has to be active in order for it to be useable.  Either System --> Administration --> Networking, or manually edit your /etc/network/interfaces file to have it come up automatically on bootup.
[07:26] <alexicon> but.
[07:26] <alexicon> nothing is playing
[07:26] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: acidrip is in the multiverse repo. enable multiverse
[07:26] <alexicon> >8[
[07:26] <NickGarvey> ardchoille: I skim here every so often for questions I can answer, learning scheme right now actually
[07:26] <alexicon> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[07:26] <ardchoille> ah
[07:26] <r1ddl3r> ardchoille, I have it enabled but still I dont see it, I will post my sources.list for you
[07:26] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: ok
[07:26] <Stormx2> AutoLoad failed for: /home/barney/.xchat2/audacious-show-1.2.0.so libaudacious.so.3.0.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory <-- When trying to run an xchat plugin. The file is located here: /usr/local/lib/libaudacious.so.3.0.0 <-- how do I make it look for it there?
[07:27] <Kibou> Stormx2: you have to add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf and then sudo ldconfig
[07:27] <Stormx2> Kibou: Thanks!!
[07:27] <Trigger_H> is there anyway i can sign on to ubuntu as root, without using sudo?
[07:27] <ruskie__> QRZ, it is in /interfaces but only eth0 is in the networking gui tab
[07:27] <bbrazil> Trigger_H: reboot, go into single user mode
[07:27] <yggdrasil> how do clear the apt-cache
[07:27] <ruskie__> and borth modules are loaded
[07:28] <yggdrasil> and how do i get rid of the 30 kernels i have listed ?
[07:28] <Stormx2> Yay it works
[07:28] <Stormx2> :)
[07:28] <Stormx2> Sorry for that btw... I know freenode doesn't like np
[07:29] <r1ddl3r> ardchoille, http://pastebin.ca/75856
[07:29] <QRZ> ruskie__:  Is it configured properly in /etc/network/interfaces?  If so, try and manually bring it up with, "sudo ifup eth1" and see if it comes up.  You can verify afterwards with, "ifconfig" at the command prompt.
[07:30] <ruskie__> i dont know what properly is, but it won come up that way
[07:30] <mod^> Umm, has anybody used xvidcap?
[07:30] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: you don't have the multiverse repo enabled
[07:30] <Stormx2> No they won't :P
[07:31] <dimitri> how can i convert jpg to png
[07:31] <r1ddl3r> ardchoille, where is that repo at I uncommented everything in it?
[07:31] <yggdrasil> can somone tell me how to clear the apt-cache  and how do i get rid of the 30 kernels i have listed ?
[07:31] <alexicon> anyone know anything about sound????
[07:31] <alexicon> !sound >alexicon
[07:31] <SonicChao> !sound
[07:31] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:31] <QRZ> ruskie__:  Open up /etc/network/interfaces and make sure it is configured with the settings you want (static, dhcp, mask, gateway, etc.).
[07:31] <ardchoille> r1ddl3r: it's not in your sources.list
[07:31] <SonicChao> Oh ok, spoke too soon
[07:31] <ardchoille> !repos > r1ddl3r
[07:31] <ruskie__> ok
[07:32] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron did anyone ever get back to you on that mouse
[07:32] <ciaron> i think its something to do with the dpi
[07:32] <mod^> I installed xvidcap from a deb, now I get "libpng warning: Application was compiled with png.h from libpng-1.0.12" and "libpng warning: Application  is  running with png.c from libpng-1.2.8"
[07:33] <cwag> im having some trouble with opening ports in kubuntu, if anyones feeling helpful toss me a pm please.
[07:33] <mod^> couldn't find the 1.0.12
[07:33] <SonicChao> cwag, we usually talk to people right in the channel.
[07:33] <FunkyDiscoMan> found a site on it
[07:33] <cwag> ah ok
[07:34] <SonicChao> cwag, that way everyone can help you, and it isn't limited to one person's knowledge.
[07:34] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron,http://floam.sh.nu/guides/mx1000 - scroll down to polling rate
[07:34] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron, http://floam.sh.nu/guides/mx1000 - scroll down to polling rate
[07:34] <cwag> well basically, i started a torrent last night because it was pretty large...anyway Ktorrent says it sees 1400 peers and 181 seeds...its now stalled, it cant connect to any seeds and only 58 leeches...
[07:34] <cwag> So i did some checking and apparently the ports arent open
[07:34] <cwag> but in my router, they are
[07:35] <biscon> mod^: weird.. especially that the application could compile with a header and source file from two different versions that far apart
[07:35] <biscon> mod^: even weirder that it can tell you about it
[07:36] <Cillatem> Hi! I'm new to linux and ubuntu as you will see. My question is, is there any sense in installing to my really old iBook an ubuntu OS? model of the ibook is G3
[07:36] <FauxFaux> Hey, does anyone know if gcc and the relevant development tools are in the base install of k/ubuntu?
[07:36] <bbrazil> FauxFaux: install build-essential
[07:36] <ruskie__> Cillatem, yes.
[07:36] <mod^> biscon: I tried to compile it from the CVS too, and the beta version, but I got "error: CAP_AVI undeclared" some forum told to install ffmpeg, but it didn't help at all
[07:37] <FauxFaux> bbrazil: Yeah, I have kubuntu, just couldn't remember if that was installed by default. I guess it isn't? :)
[07:37] <bbrazil> FauxFaux: no
[07:37] <biscon> mod^: but the one reporting the aforementioned error, is that version from the repositories?
[07:38] <Cillatem> ruskie__ allright then how does that happen, because i've been trying to install it byt won't happen any way. I'm probably doing something wrong but what
[07:38] <mod^> It's a deb I found from ubuntuforums
[07:38] <ruskie__> Cillatem, got the right iso?
[07:38] <yaeyo> Hi all! Could someone point me to some documentation in getting xgl with twinview working? I keep getting errors about "failed to lock xauthority file".
[07:38] <ciaron> quick question, if i'm editing my xorg.conf in gnome and i want to apply my changes do i have to restart the machine? or is there a quicker way?
[07:38] <ruskie__> restart x
[07:39] <Morrowyn> i think xgl doesnt work well with dual screens, iirc
[07:39] <ardchoille> ciaron: restart x  CTRL+ALT+BCKSPC
[07:39] <yaeyo> ruskie__, you could just restart xorg
[07:39] <ggilbert_> ciaron:  /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:39] <ggilbert_> ciaron: That will restart the x server itself.
[07:39] <yaeyo> Morrowyn, I see that :) but I understood that using quinnstorms pkgs it works
[07:39] <FauxFaux> Cheers bbrazil.
[07:39] <yaeyo> and I am using quinns packages
[07:39] <Morrowyn> didnt know that, you got an url for me on that?
[07:39] <Cillatem> ruskie__ok i forgot to put the cd as bootable
[07:39] <yaeyo> one sec
[07:40] <Cillatem> just looked at those instructions
[07:40] <ardchoille> is using /etc/init.d/gdm restart  a better way to restart x than using ctrl+alt+bckspc?
[07:40] <yaeyo> Morrowyn, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-184859.html
[07:40] <ggilbert_> ardchoille: Not really. Just different habits for different people :)
[07:41] <ardchoille> ggilbert_: ah, ok :)
[07:41] <Cillatem> ruskie__ i got this one ubuntu-6.06-desktop-powerpc.iso
[07:41] <ardchoille> ggilbert_: I'm always open to better ways of doing things :)
[07:41] <ruskie__> good
[07:42] <FunkyDiscoMan> ciaron : <ctl><alt><backspace> will do it
[07:44] <snowdogdb> Hi - can anyone help me with problems getting apt-get update to work?
[07:44] <cwag> why cant ktorrent seem to connect to hardly any leechers, and zero seeds even with the ports opened?
[07:45] <buddha132> When you wget a file, where does it store the saved file?
[07:45] <NickWasWrong> buddha132: current dir
[07:45] <buddha132> NickWasWrong: ? What?
[07:46] <NickWasWrong> buddha132: when you wget "http://server/file" it will be stored in the current directory...
[07:46] <ggilbert_> Does anyone know if totem-xine-firefox plugin can be made to register itself for mp3 files? Xine can play them, but the plugin won't tell firefox that :)
[07:47] <eugman> What's the easiest way to transfer a file between two computers? Besides putting it on a cd or something.
[07:47] <ruskie__> eugman, ftp dcc scp
[07:47] <thoreauputic> eugman: netcat, scp
[07:47] <ardchoille> buddha132: the directory you are in when you run wget, ex: pwd will tell you the current working dir
[07:47] <eugman> I generally know ftp and scp what are the other two?
[07:48] <snowdogdb> apt-get update returns lots of Err and connection failed.  What am I doing wrong?
[07:48] <buddha132> Ardchoille: ohhhhhh i think i understand now
[07:48] <buddha132> thanks
[07:48] <ardchoille> buddha132: yw :)
[07:48] <ggilbert_> DCC is a method of transfering files over IRC. netcat is a program that works like "cat" except over a network.
[07:49] <eugman> Let's assume I don't know what cat does...
[07:49] <ggilbert_> eugman: Do you just need to do a one off file transfer or is this going to be a recurring thing?
[07:49] <eugman> just one
[07:49] <ggilbert_> eugman: then scp is probably your easiest bet
[07:49] <eugman> Alright I guess i install the open_ssh server
[07:50] <eugman> What's the router ip?
[07:51] <ggilbert_> eugman: Netcat will read data and write it out to a remote network port. On the far side, another copy of netcat can listen for the data and write it back out to a file
[07:51] <buddha132> does anyoen have any experiance getting Airport Express working??
[07:51] <Zambezi> Which is the best FTP-client in textmode that supports Implicit SSL?
[07:51] <eugman> k
[07:51] <NickGarvey> Zambezi: sftp?
[07:52] <Zambezi> NickGarvey, I should check.
[07:52] <lens_> whenever I type "make" it says it doesn't recognize that command... where do I get it? "sudo apt-get install make"?
[07:53] <apokryphos> lens_: please read the FAQ
[07:53] <lens_> ok
[07:53] <buddha132>  does anyoen have any experiance getting Airport Express working??
[07:53] <keithhhhh> has anyone had luck installing Korean on their system?
[07:54] <Zambezi> NickGarvey, Do you know if there's an offical homepage? I trying to find it, but there's no luck.
[07:55] <ardchoille> sftp.sourceforge.net ?
[07:55] <ardchoille> or maybe sftp.org ?
[07:56] <penguinwhoflew> i recently did an update all through synaptic, and it broke my fglrx drivers. anyone know why or how to fix it?
[07:56] <ggilbert_> Unless you're talking about a different sftp, it isn't the same thing as ftp with implicit ssl support
[07:56] <dli> keithhhhh, install the fonts, and you can select your language in gdm before login
[07:56] <NickGarvey> Zambezi: built in?
[07:57] <HorzA-> is ot possible to copy ubuntuserver from harddrive to usb and boot it from the usb stick?
[07:57] <keithhhhh> dli: but is korean possible?
[07:57] <dli> keithhhhh, yes, debian is international by default
[07:57] <Zambezi> NickGarvey, I prefer built in, but the most important is that Implicit SSL is supported.
[07:57] <keithhhhh> but I dont see Korean
[07:57] <keithhhhh> dli: I see Japanese
[07:57] <dli> keithhhhh, to double check locales supported, " sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales "
[07:58] <penguinwhoflew> i recently did an update all through synaptic, and it broke my fglrx drivers (they won't comple). anyone know why or how to fix it?
[07:58] <hctibtipots> where can i get the codecs to play mp3 files?
[07:58] <ardchoille> penguinwhoflew: did you update the kernel?
[07:58] <dli> !tell hctibtipots about mp3
[07:58] <penguinwhoflew> ardchoille:  i do think so
[07:58] <biscon> hctibtipots: try the easyubuntu script http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[07:59] <ardchoille> penguinwhoflew: if you updated the kernel, you'll need the kernel headers for the new kernel before you can comile the vid drivers
[07:59] <penguinwhoflew> i'm pretty sure i did that though
[07:59] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: The only thing I've ever found that does it is ftp-ssl in the archive. It's not a particularly  UI, but it works.
[07:59] <mrDaniel> i am very suprised: ubuntu can't play .midi-files, is there a HOWTO which describes how to 'enable' .midi-support?
[07:59] <avis> penguinwhoflew, you need to do what you once did all over again.
[07:59] <ggilbert_> mrDaniel: The wiki goes over it
[08:00] <NickGarvey> Zambezi: I mean, I think sftp comes with ubuntu
[08:00] <ggilbert_> mrDaniel: Search for midi on http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <erUSUL> mrDaniel: sure in the wiki wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <erUSUL> !midi
[08:00] <ubotu> Trouble playing midi files? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[08:00] <penguinwhoflew> avis: but what i did no longer works... i think trying to get the linux-restricted-module doesn't work, i can't find the package
[08:00] <thoreauputic> !midi
[08:00] <cwillu> "Buffer I/O error on device dhc"
[08:00] <alexicon> hrmm
[08:00] <alexicon> it seems that system sounds are working, but i cant play any files
[08:00] <alexicon> with any player
[08:00] <biscon> does anyone have any idea why my Gaim started segfaulting whenever it completes logging onto msn? this started yesterday
[08:00] <erUSUL> !midi > mrDaniel
[08:01] <cwillu> but knoppix works, and the cd boots fine on another machine
[08:01] <cwillu> help!
[08:01] <penguinwhoflew> avis: well nvm, it found them today...
[08:01] <snowdogdb> I need help with "apt-get update" , please!
[08:01] <ggilbert_> NickGarvey: I'm  pretty sure you and Zambezi are talking about two completely different things :p
[08:01] <erUSUL> !help
[08:01] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[08:01] <NickGarvey> ggilbert_: oh.. I just saw ftp and ssl
[08:01] <ardchoille> biscon: MSN changes things around now and then to try to keep gaim users from connecting. That may have happened.
[08:02] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: please ask an specific question i need help does not help us helping you (still with me ;))
[08:02] <ggilbert_> NickGarvey: sftp is a non-ftp transfer potocol that gets tunneled through ssh
[08:02] <biscon> ardchoille: yeah I remember having seen that before and I haven't updated gaim.. does anyone else have the same problem as of yesterday?
[08:02] <cwillu> biscon: what problem?
[08:02] <avis> penguinwhoflew, just make sure you have multiverse enabled.  also if you google "Seveas ubuntu" i think he has kernels already compiled with the ATI driver on his repos
[08:02] <NickGarvey> ggilbert_: oh.. didn't know that heh, thanks
[08:02] <NickGarvey> Zambezi: ignore my ignorance :)
[08:03] <mantono> !audio
[08:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about audio
[08:03] <penguinwhoflew> avis: i guess they just weren't released when i tried it yesterday... thanks for having me try it again!
[08:03] <alexicon> !sound
[08:03] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:03] <recover> How do I patch the kernel source with a .tar.bzip2?
[08:03] <biscon> cwillu: it started yestertoday, when I fire up gaim (I have it configured for auto login), it first logs on to my icq account.. then logs onto msn.. when the msn contacts displays it segfaults and dump a core
[08:03] <cwillu> biscon: I've had no problems with my msn account and gaim in the last 6 months; I haven't applied any ubuntu updates this week though
[08:03] <snowdogdb> ok.  When I run 'sudo apt-get update' I get lots of stuff like: Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com sapper Release.gpg
[08:03] <ruskie__> there are lots of xgl/compiz guides... wich one worked for you guys?
[08:03] <biscon> cwillu: ill try and run gdb on it but I think my binary is stripped
[08:03] <yanis> how can I change the name I have assigned to my pc? for example yanis@changethis
[08:03] <Shoo0> hi, how can i edit gurb to start with windows?
[08:03] <NickGarvey> snowdogdb: its dapper not sapper
[08:03] <NickGarvey> !grub > Shoo0
[08:03] <ggilbert_> FTP with implicit SSL seems like a pain to do on any OS :)
[08:03] <cwillu> biscon: try uninstalling it and reinstalling
[08:04] <avis> penguinwhoflew, you mean from Seveas repos ?  i saw something that looked like fglrx drivers from there.  or a kernel.  memory not great right now.
[08:04] <biscon> cwillu: I have applied updates but as I remember no one of them were for gaim
[08:04] <alexicon> yanis: /etc/host.conf
[08:04] <cwillu> biscon: is it from the ubuntu repo's?
[08:04] <penguinwhoflew> avis: no, just in the multiverse
[08:04] <NickGarvey> Shoo0: if that doesn't have it I'll walk you through it
[08:04] <snowdogdb> sorry, my typo.  I'm IRC'ing on my windows system and seeing errors on the Ubunto system.
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Shoo0: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:04] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: paste de errors in apastebin so we can have a look
[08:04] <keithhhhh> dli: sorry my computer overheated can you tell me the way to get Korean setup again  :'(
[08:04] <biscon> cwillu: hehe the windows fix?.. yeah im gonna try that.. was curious if anyone had the same problem
[08:04] <Zambezi> ggilbert_, I talking about a ftp-client that has support for Implicit SSL. And I should be in textmode.
[08:04] <cwillu> biscon: nope, working flawlessly here
[08:05] <Shoo0> ok jack, but what should i write there?
[08:05] <dli> keithhhhh, first, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:05] <snowdogdb> what is apastebin?
[08:05] <biscon> cwillu: yups its plain version from the repos
[08:05] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[08:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:05] <avis> penguinwhoflew, then perhaps you should check out the Seveas dapper repo :)  let me see if i have a link.  i lost all but have backups of -- life sustaining things.
[08:05] <dli> keithhhhh, make sure you have korean locales
[08:05] <keithhhhh> dli: ok trying now
[08:05] <penguinwhoflew> lol
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> snowdogdb: pastebin.com
[08:05] <warrendc> channel warrendc ;)
[08:05] <cwillu> biscon: ya, remove it (not complete removal though), and reinstall;  should keep your account info
[08:05] <cwillu> but I think your binary is pooched
[08:05] <biscon> cwillu: weird that it just starts segfaulting.. if they changed the protocol the program should be able to handle that gracefully and exit with an error
[08:06] <avis> penguinwhoflew, please browse this site http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/dapper-seveas/
[08:06] <warrendc> everybody on channel warrendc :D
[08:06] <hctibtipots> any 1 know how to install lime wire for linux?
[08:06] <cwillu> biscon: it's not msn
[08:06] <snowdogdb> ok, i put it in pastebin.
[08:06] <biscon> cwillu: yeah ill try that, thanks
[08:06] <cwillu> biscon: it works fine here with no updates
[08:06] <ardchoille> warrendc: stop it please
[08:06] <peacekeep> whats the best c library to retrieve a file via http ?
[08:06] <F0LL0W3R> !pastebin
[08:06] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:06] <Intelligi> Something is wrong with my network, I can't connect to the internet with my computer running Ubuntu.
[08:06] <biscon> cwillu: yeah but how did I manage to screw it up? ;)
[08:06] <Intelligi> It was working just fine yesterday.
[08:07] <ggilbert_> Zambezi:  Unfortunatly, the only thing I've seen that does it is konqueror.
[08:07] <keithhhhh> dli: Ok I think its setting up now, whats the next step?  Just go into languages and change or logout and back in??
[08:07] <cwillu> biscon: is your harddrive old?  done anything with prelinking, running a custom kernel, ...
[08:07] <snowdogdb> apt-get update errors posted to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16844
[08:07] <Detox_Server> if I DL edubuntu via apt-get ,,, will it come with everthing the regular ubuntu has also?
[08:07] <hctibtipots> can you install an .rpm file on ubuntu?
[08:07] <biscon> cwillu: no.. haven't done any of those things on this install
[08:08] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: We use implicit ftp for some services at work, I've just never found a console client that will connect to it.
[08:08] <penguinwhoflew> avis: how do i add that in synaptic?
[08:08] <Zambezi> ggilbert_, And I want in textmode so that's a problem. :-/
[08:08] <dli> keithhhhh, you need the packages for more korean support
[08:08] <avis> let me cat my sources.list
[08:08] <Intelligi> Something is wrong with my network, I can't connect to the internet with my computer running Ubuntu.
[08:08] <cwillu> help!  xubuntu livecd hangs Mounting root file system...;  cd is good though
[08:08] <biscon> cwillu: this is were it segfaults :0xb6a17fb1 in msn_object_new_from_string () from /usr/lib/gaim/libmsn.so
[08:08] <avis> penguinwhoflew, are you registered so i can PM you ?
[08:08] <biscon> cwillu: so it is in the msn plugin.. weird
[08:08] <penguinwhoflew> avis: no =/
[08:08] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: not a good idea, but it can be done
[08:09] <Zambezi> ggilbert_, But is there a FTP-server that supports Implicit SSL?
[08:09] <hctibtipots> how??
[08:09] <penguinwhoflew> avis: i have AIM at this sn though
[08:09] <hctibtipots> trying to get limewire installed
[08:09] <Detox_Server> if I DL edubuntu via apt-get ,,, will it come with everthing the regular ubuntu has also?
[08:09] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: I'd have to look at what we use
[08:09] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: are you sure you have inet connection in the machine?
[08:09] <dli> keithhhhh, sudo apt-get install language-pack-ko language-pack-gnome-ko openoffice.org-l10n-ko scim-hangul
[08:09] <snowdogdb> yep
[08:09] <snowdogdb> I can ftp out
[08:09] <snowdogdb> I'm running txt mode only
[08:09] <ardchoille> Detox_Server: aren't you running regular ubuntu now?
[08:09] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: We have a custom written FTP server, but you connect to it through a wrapper daemon that does the actual ssl
[08:09] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: try ping archive.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <Intelligi> I need help too!
[08:10] <snowdogdb> that's another problem... I just installed but only get text, no GUI.  It's the server version though, so maybe no desktop included?
[08:10] <hctibtipots> Jack_Sparrow can i pm you???
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sure
[08:10] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: the errors are due to failed connection maybe the main mirrors are temp down
[08:10] <keithhhhh> dli:  thanks I think its working
[08:10] <snowdogdb> ping to archive.ubuntu.com works like a charm... 150ms
[08:11] <dli> keithhhhh, and korean fonts: sudo apt-get install ttf-baekmuk
[08:11] <Intelligi> My internet was working yesterday, and now it isn't.
[08:11] <penguinwhoflew> avis: Ok I don't get what I'm doing wrong...
[08:11] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: looks like we're using http://www.glub.com/products/ftpswrap/
[08:11] <snowdogdb> erUSUL - been having this problem since I installed last night... I can see the packages with a web browser though.
[08:11] <Zambezi> ggilbert_, I want a secure FTP-server which isn't slow as hell. I transfer files now in 10 Mbit. With Implcit SSL in Windows, I transfered in 70 Mbit (between two computers at my LAN).
[08:11] <penguinwhoflew> avis: it still won't compile right, but i have the headers and everything
[08:12] <Intelligi> There is some kind of network problem I think with Ubuntu. I deactivated and reactivated my wireless connection, but that didn't help. In fact, it took it forever to reactivate.
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: yes
[08:12] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: i'm at a lost. can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[08:12] <hctibtipots> can you help me to install it???
[08:12] <yango> hey, how do you set a folder to be autofiltered every time a message arrives?
[08:12] <Zambezi> ggilbert_, But at a first glance, it looks like it's not free.
[08:12] <ggilbert_> I don't think it is
[08:12] <kazukisan> How do i install a dvd writer usb poratable drive ?
[08:12] <yango> umm, i mean in evolution
[08:13] <Detox_Server> hey folks ,, don't know if anyone saw my question  > >  after base install, from live cd ,, and I apt-get edubuntu ,, will I get everything that comes on regular ubuntu also?
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: what are you trying to install?
[08:13] <ardchoille> Detox_Server: aren't you running regular ubuntu now?
[08:13] <Detox_Server> no
[08:13] <Detox_Server> not on this pc
[08:13] <Detox_Server> i am isntalling on
[08:13] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: Do you specifically need FTP?
[08:13] <hctibtipots> Jack_Sparrow: i am tring to install limewire pro
[08:13] <erUSUL> kazukisan: you plug it and with luck the apropiate devices files will be created
[08:13] <snowdogdb> erUSUL: here it is... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16846
[08:13] <Detox_Server> I installed ubuntu server on the one i am on now
[08:13] <kazukisan> erUSUL: That didnt work lol
[08:14] <keithhhhh> dli: so do I need to logout and back in to get it to work?
[08:14] <kazukisan> erUSUL: any chance you know what dev name it would have ?
[08:14] <mlowe> !sourceomatic
[08:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about sourceomatic
[08:14] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: I am not your guy... Good luck with that
[08:14] <keithhhhh> dli: (Im documenting every step in case someone asks  ;)    )
[08:14] <hctibtipots> lol, ok thanx anyways
[08:14] <dli> keithhhhh, no :(
[08:15] <dli> keithhhhh, you can simply set ENVs
[08:15] <erUSUL> kazukisan: /dev/srxx maybe or /dev/sdxx as scsi device
[08:15] <penguinwhoflew> how do i stop this error when installing fglrx: "[Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module."
[08:15] <gatekeeper> Detox_Server: what specifically where you after
[08:15] <hctibtipots> can any1 help me install limewirelinux.rpm?
[08:16] <keithhhhh> dli:  hmmm I went into system -  language selector and clicked on Korean translations and writing aids
[08:16] <ggilbert_> Zambezi: Another thing I've noticed while looking at it is that implicit SSL just doesn't seem to be a recommended way of doing. We did it because that glubtech product  was the most straightforward way of doing what we needed. You might have better luck with doing this through one of the other methods
[08:16] <dli> keithhhhh, read the howto: http://home.no.net/david/i18n.php
[08:16] <keithhhhh> dli: then I clicked on the keyboard indicator and I cant find korean in their
[08:16] <Detox_Server> ok ,,, I am putting a pc together for a friend of mine who has kids
[08:16] <yeonhoo> hello
[08:17] <Detox_Server> and want to have the stuff that is on the edubuntu
[08:17] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: i don't see anything wrong with the configuration file. i can't help you further sorry. i do not know what is preventing apt from connecting to the archives. are you using a http proxy?
[08:17] <Detox_Server> but he and his wife will also be using it
[08:17] <atlantian> hey guys how you all doing ^^ :)
[08:17] <Detox_Server> so i want stuff that would come on regular ubuntu also
[08:17] <yeonhoo> somebody can help me? im searching for un-rar program
[08:17] <ardchoille> erUSUL: some folks have reported problems with proxies and apt
[08:17] <avis> penguinwhoflew, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16849
[08:18] <F0LL0W3R> what is the postfix configuration ?
[08:18] <keithhhhh> dli: well much thanks hope I get it working  ;)
[08:18] <snowdogdb> erUSUL: nope, no proxy.  I appreciate your trying!  I've posted to the forum as well.  All Im realy trying to do is get proftpd on there.  Do you know if I can simply download the binary somewhere?
[08:18] <chopchop_>  how do i apply a patch of UT2004 in ubuntu ?
[08:18] <Detox_Server> so the pc needs to be an adult pc as well as a kid pc
[08:18] <hctibtipots> any know how to install limewire for linux???
[08:19] <erUSUL> snowdogdb: you can go to packages.ubuntu.com (iirci) and browse to dl the deb files. do not forget dependencies
[08:19] <gatekeeper> Detox_Server: never installed edubuntu so I am not sure what you get without looking at the documentation, I guess I would also install gnome-desktop or kde-desktop, I guess the thing to do is see what you have when you are finished installing
[08:19] <Detox_Server> ok
[08:19] <snowdogdb> thanx!
[08:19] <nitche> hctibtipots: install j2re and download limewire for linux www.limewire.com
[08:19] <Detox_Server> will follow doc and do apt-get install edubuntu
[08:20] <Detox_Server> then I guess I can show them how to use synaptic for anything else if the need it
[08:20] <hctibtipots> i have the pro version that i want to intall but it is .rpm file
[08:20] <gatekeeper> Detox_Server: good plan :-)
[08:21] <cwillu> help!  dapper livecd won't boot, but knoppix cd works, and dapper cd works on different computer
[08:21] <bsdirl> anyone tried the debian dvd that's in a magazine?
[08:21] <chopchop_> hi, any one know how to update unreal tournament 2004, i have just installed it
[08:21] <nitche> hctibtipots: im not really sure about that... but its possible to convert that rpm to a deb, even i'm new to debian. but i've done it some years back. not sure now.
[08:21] <bsdirl> cwillu, are you trying to boot an older computer with a cdrw?
[08:21] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: I have the windows version... I still dont want to try and install it in Ubuntu
[08:21] <yeonhoo> what is the name of  un-rar program ?!
[08:21] <nitche> anyone know how to convert a RPM to DEB?
[08:22] <ardchoille> nitche: sudo apt-get install alien
[08:22] <cwillu> bsdirl, no, it's a plain cd reader
[08:22] <gatekeeper> Detox_Server: make sure they have the obvious, web browser, news reader, mail, may be amarok realplayer stuff like that I guess
[08:22] <yeonhoo> somebody can help me with teaching me the name of unrar program?
[08:22] <bsdirl> ahhh
[08:22] <Detox_Server> yes agree
[08:22] <bsdirl> I mean uhh a cdrw disc in an older drive?
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> !rpm > nitche
[08:22] <cwillu> bsdirl: it comes up to the boot menu, but it hangs at "mounting root mount"
[08:22] <bsdirl> OH
[08:22] <cwillu> bsdirl: no, it's a cdr, burnt at 4x
[08:22] <bsdirl> ok then, my mistake.
[08:22] <cwillu> (Rather than 52x)
[08:23] <hctibtipots> so no way of having limewire on ubuntu?
[08:23] <bsdirl> you said reader, I thought you meant the DRIVE was CDR :>
[08:23] <Jaymoid> Hi everybody
[08:23] <Detox_Server> I am on a really slow dsl connection ,, so DL is not good, but I want thenm to have a ver of linux that tehy can learn wtrih and the kids can also learn and fun with
[08:23] <cwillu> heh
[08:23] <bsdirl> I had that problem on my cousins laptop with breezy
[08:23] <cwillu> "mounting root file system..." it hangs at
[08:23] <kazukisan> Can someone help me get my external dvd burner to be reconized ?
[08:23] <nitche> cwillu: i'm not a deb file thanks anyway  :) am downloading alien
[08:23] <tonyyarusso> !limewire > hctibtipots
[08:23] <ardchoille> Detox_Server: #edubuntu
[08:24] <gatekeeper> Detox_Server: well I think you have picked the right distro there, one of the many reasons why I settled on kubuntu :-)
[08:24] <Jaymoid> I have a quick question that is probably a one liner answer. I have a cron job to start up torrents, however I dont want that cron job to run from my home directory. So basicall how do i run a command in a different directory to the one I am in?
[08:24] <penguinwhoflew> avis: thanks
[08:24] <ardchoille> Jaymoid: you should really be using full paths in cron jobs
[08:25] <erUSUL> Jaymoid: the cron job is a bash script?
[08:25] <cwillu> anyone know of any boot options relevant to a livecd that hangs when mounting root file system?
[08:25] <avis> penguinwhoflew, you will still need to refer to the original webpage i posted for the gpg key to access the repo.
[08:25] <erUSUL> cwillu: maybe the cd is corrupt??
[08:25] <ompaul> cwillu, did you ever look at wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[08:25] <cwillu> erUSUL: maybe, but it does work on a different machine
[08:26] <cwillu> ompaul: I've tried noapic, acpi=off, but no dice
[08:26] <ompaul> cwillu, there are more
[08:26] <cwillu> none of them seem relevant to a cd not booting :/
[08:26] <Jaymoid> >> erUSUL: Jaymoid: the cron job is a bash script?
[08:26] <Jaymoid> No its a single line command:
[08:26] <Jaymoid>  screen -d -m btdownloadcurses.bittornado /media/max300/bitmetv/Twin\ Peaks\ Complete.torrent
[08:26] <erUSUL> cwillu: can you switch to virtual consoles and see if there is any meaningful msg there
[08:26] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: yes you can have limewire, just not limewire pro from an rpm
[08:27] <cwillu> erUSUL: one sec
[08:27] <Jaymoid> thanks
[08:27] <hctibtipots> oh ok
[08:27] <Jack_Sparrow> hctibtipots: Just google Limewire Ubuntu for info
[08:27] <zegnus> buenas
[08:27] <cwillu> erUSUL: Buffer I/O error on device hdc, logical block 0
[08:27] <Rondom> !frostwire
[08:27] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[08:27] <cwillu> ...1, 2, 3, 4
[08:28] <erUSUL> Jaymoid: maybe cd not_home_dir; screen -d -m btdownloadcurses.bittornado... can help
[08:28] <Intelligi> I need help!
[08:28] <Intelligi> Something is wrong with my network, I can't connect to the internet with my computer running Ubuntu.
[08:28] <erUSUL> cwillu: hardware error?
[08:28] <Intelligi> There is some kind of network problem I think with Ubuntu. I deactivated and reactivated my wireless connection, but that didn't help. In fact, it took it forever to reactivate.
[08:28] <Jaymoid> erUSUL, thanks, I shall try it now!
[08:28] <_absolution_> how do you chech which version of ubuntu you're using??
[08:28] <erUSUL> _absolution_: cat /etc/lsb-release
[08:29] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: Did you verify that MD5 checksum, did you have it check the CD and watch as it tested it for errors?
[08:29] <cwillu> erUSUL: a knoppix 4.0, and insert linux, booted fine
[08:29] <root___> query LobWech
[08:29] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: the dapper 'verify cd' option hangs at the same place;  it boots fine on a different machine
[08:30] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: Did you do the cd check on the machine that does boot.
[08:31] <root___> 
[08:31] <root___> 
[08:31] <Bakemono> hi
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> There may be a glitch in the hardware drivers and the different box dosent use the defective driver
[08:31] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: I'll try it in a sec, the other machine is just finishing installing
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: But you see my point right?
[08:31] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: I've tried burning two cd's though, same error, same place;  haven't check the iso yet though
[08:31] <Jaymoid> erUSUL, thank you kindly, that has worked a treat!
[08:31] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[08:32] <erUSUL> Jaymoid: no problem
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: I would check the iso
[08:32] <cwillu> checking
[08:32] <ompaul> !test
[08:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: the server was so busy that I had to dl it three times to get a clean copy
[08:33] <forngren> What should I think of when choosing webcam?
[08:33] <FlyingSquirrel32> how do I set a name server when I'm setting a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> forngren: Look at the hardware compatability list
[08:34] <cArNaGe`> http://www.break.com/index/japaneseprank9.html
[08:34] <cArNaGe`> haha
[08:34] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: md5sum matches
[08:34] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: so the iso is fine
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu: then I dont know what is going on.. Is this a fresh hard drive?
[08:34] <pablo__> hi! ive done an upgrege from 5.10 to 6.06 but now the machines.. puts its self in hibernation mode! and i dont want taht cause its a LTSP SERVER!!!.. how do i fix this? ..
[08:34] <ToHellWithGA> hullo.  i'm having trouble with some parts of my GUI not being skinned/themed: http://694argonne.dyndns.org/images/Screenshot.jpg could somebody help me with that?
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> cw full instal or dual boot
[08:35] <pablo__> from gnome .. power managment control are very poor adn do not resolve the problem
[08:35] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: full install, but I haven't been able to get far enough to try that yet
[08:35] <biscon> is core dumping disabled on ubuntu?
[08:35] <redguy> do I really have to run MAKEDEV when I want to have lm-sensors running?
[08:35] <ToHellWithGA> pablo__: are you a native english speaker?  there are channels for other languages
[08:35] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: I get to the boot menu (start or install, etc), but it hangs right after
[08:35] <ToHellWithGA> !es
[08:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu:  do you have another cd drive to put in that box.
[08:36] <cwillu> Jack_Sparrow: I think so
[08:36] <cwillu> one sec
[08:36] <redguy> isn't udev responsible of making device files on-the-fly?
[08:38] <Administrator_> I like it, I like it alot
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> cwillu:  I dont mean to leave you hanging but I have a paying customer that needs my help... Back in about 2 hours...
[08:39] <cwillu> np
[08:39] <Intelligi> Why will no one help me?
[08:40] <biscon> Intelligi: what is your problem?
[08:40] <ardchoille> Intelligi: perhaps no one who is watching the channel atm is able to?
[08:40] <Intelligi> I can't connect to the internet on my computer running Ubuntu.
[08:40] <Intelligi> There is something wrong with the network probably.
[08:41] <Intelligi> I have tried messing with it in the system - administrative thing, but nothing I do does diddly squat.
[08:41] <jme> Is glxgears supposed to output a benchmark?
[08:41] <biscon> Intelligi: could you be more specific?
[08:41] <Intelligi> I don't know how. It was working yesterday, and now it isn't.
[08:41] <jme> Because it ain't doing that - it's just running really slowwwww
[08:41] <Intelligi> I don't know what is wrong.
[08:41] <Intelligi> I am on a wireless network.
[08:42] <biscon> Intelligi: Can't help you with wireless, doesn't use it myself..  is your interface listed when runnning ifconfig?
[08:43] <Intelligi> I don't know. How do I run ifconfig?
[08:44] <jme> go into a terminal and run ifconfig
[08:44] <biscon> Intelligi: you know how to open a console? its in the applications->accessories in gnome
[08:44] <jme> actually you'll want to run iwconfig, which is the version for wireless networking
[08:44] <cwillu> weird;  that drive worked with 3 other live cd's;  didn't like dappers though
[08:44] <Fritz> hello! somebody can help me conecting a iPAQ with my UBUNTU?
[08:45] <_Arvydas_> Hello, I've a problem with installation. When I boot from live cd, I got "Buffer I/O error on device dm-0". I press ctrl+c to skip but then, when I try to install and arrive to partition stuff, it starts charging but never finish :S
[08:45] <biscon> see I know nothing about wlan hehe.. hmm whats the point of having two different programs for configuring interfaces?
[08:45] <jme> any idea why GLXgears wouldn't give me benchmarks?
[08:45] <jme> biscon: wireless networks have different options than wired
[08:45] <Fritz> it's a HP 1910 Pocket PC running Win CE 2002
[08:46] <jme> for instance, you need to set frequency and mode on wireless networks, which aren't a consideration for wired
[08:46] <Intelligi> ifconfig gives me text, it recongizes my wireless card.
[08:46] <kazukisan> Can someone help me get my external dvd burner to be reconized ?
[08:46] <Intelligi> What do I do ion iwconfig?
[08:46] <biscon> jme: yeah just thought of an "interface" as an abstraction
[08:47] <biscon> Intelligi: running it should give you a list of running interfaces
[08:47] <Intelligi> I got a list.
[08:47] <jme> Intelligi: I would try going back into GNOME networking to deactivate and reactivate your wireless card
[08:47] <Intelligi> Now what?
[08:47] <Intelligi> I tried that.
[08:47] <Intelligi> Doesn't work.
[08:48] <redguy> jme: because it is not a benchmark tool, you have to pass it a (or something like) --iknowthatthisisnotabenchmark option
[08:48] <adamlinux> join #ubuntu-hu
[08:48] <biscon> Intelligi: you probably need the right driver then, can't help you about that. but these problems come up all the time in here somebody probably can if you know the name of your card
[08:49] <yango> Intelligi: which ubuntu version and what kind of card?
[08:50] <Intelligi> 6.0.6, and I'm not sure. It was working just yesterday though.
[08:50] <jme> or 'glxgears -printfps' as it turns out
[08:50] <ccui> has anyone installed ubuntu 6 in ibm x32? it seems there is a bug.
[08:50] <avis> Intelligi, that would be called dapper drake or dapper for short.
[08:50] <yango> Intelligi: i mean, usb card, pci card, pcmcia card?
[08:50] <yango> avis: 6.0.6 is shorter :P
[08:50] <avis> you are correct :)
[08:50] <yango> although is 6.06
[08:51] <avis> though most people relate to words better than numbers i think ?
[08:51] <yango> avis: i use no DNS, i type all the webpage addresses directly from IP, I HATE virtual hosts :-)
[08:52] <_absolution_> ! repositories
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <avis> yango you are kidding ?
[08:52] <yango> yes
[08:52] <avis> heh
[08:52] <avis> thank goodnesss
[08:52] <jme> bash really should recognize common swear words
[08:53] <avis> jme, offtopic, but like zork ?
[08:53] <iNiku> jme: and do what with them? :)
[08:53] <avis> back to ubuntu.....
[08:53] <grph1> Can someone try to connect to my ssh server?
[08:53] <jme> I dunno, make the ***** thing work!
[08:53] <biscon> jme: it does try  fsck you
[08:53] <Intelligi> back
[08:53] <Intelligi> Something called an Xterasys.
[08:54] <avis> an artificial intelligence bash.  interesting.
[08:54] <harry_> if i fool around with using Gparted for resizing NTFS partition - will it damage data ? i fucked my harddisk up .. tried to resdtore partition table with gpart - no luck. but i suppose all the data is still there
[08:54] <SonicChao> harry_, no swaring.
[08:54] <avis> harry_, watch your language
[08:54] <ompaul> harry_, less language please, we try to have a G rated channel, thanks
[08:54] <harry_> sorry.
[08:55] <Spec> the curse words makes my eyes bleed :-/
[08:55] <avis> harry_, its not kosher and there could be kids here.
[08:55] <grph1> Could someone see if they can connect to my ssh server?
[08:55] <grph1> 70.185.201.53
[08:55] <ompaul> grph1, you can yourself :-)
[08:55] <Intelligi> It is a pci card.
[08:55] <Intelligi> Can someone help me?
[08:55] <avis> grph1, sure, if you are registered pm me login details i'll tell you if i can get in
[08:55] <biscon> I think it adds flavour to a conversation unless people are using them all the time.. never understood all that hysteria about curse words
[08:55] <eugman> Is there a way to exract just all .wad files from a tarball?
[08:56] <avis> biscon, #1 kids.
[08:56] <grph1> I just want to see if you can connect, not login
[08:56] <ompaul> biscon, well, it is like this, we encourage people to think there can be kids here
[08:56] <Spec> biscon: the real reason is it's not your decision to introduce such words to other people's children
[08:56] <grph1> I got a friend who is trying to login but can't even connect
[08:56] <Spec> grph1: no, i can't connect to that IP via ssh
[08:56] <biscon> don't get me wrong I expect the rules I just don't agree with them
[08:56] <Spec> expect?
[08:56] <grph1> Darn.
[08:56] <biscon> so what kids hear them all the time in movies and pop culture
[08:56] <Spec> some kids don't :)
[08:57] <grph1> ssh is port 23 right?
[08:57] <Spec> 22 i believe, telnet is 23
[08:57] <grph1> Oh
[08:57] <eugman> Biscon, Two wrongs don't make a right as the cliche goes.
[08:57] <ompaul> biscon, this is not the place for discussion. we have a channel #ubuntu-offtopic for that, here we do tech support
[08:57] <biscon> eugman: you're right, but whats so wrong about cursing? other than it makes you look stupid if you do it in every sentence
[08:57] <alexicon> hey how can i tell which partition ive put my boot on
[08:57] <eugman> Hey is there a way to extract all the files of a type from a tarball?
[08:58] <mnvl> grph1 i am connected
[08:58] <adamant1988> can someone help me with a problem installing quake from disk?
[08:58] <mnvl> don't know the password though :(
[08:58] <avis> biscon, offtopic.
[08:58] <harryv> well. can you recommend a partition-recovery app for windows or linux then? no swearing.
[08:58] <WebRa> grphl: I had no problem connecting....
[08:59] <cwillu> quick launch on open office;  is there any support for it on dapper?
[08:59] <biscon> yeah yeah sorry
[08:59] <siriusnova> anyone here have lockups with the i686 kernel?
[08:59] <siriusnova> i am :(
[08:59] <adamant1988> It gives me a permissions denied error when I try to run the install script... but I'm running it as sudo...
[09:00] <siriusnova> its unstable on my Thinkpad T30, my laptop will lock up
[09:00] <Intelligi> My wireless card is an Xterasys Xn-2511b.
[09:00] <cwillu> siriusnova: and the i386 kernel is fine?
[09:00] <avis> siriusnova, none.  its most likely a laptop incompatability.
[09:00] <siriusnova> cwillu - yep
[09:00] <ompaul> harryv, second drive - live cd and dd data across or inspect partition table
[09:00] <Intelligi> Can someone please help me?
[09:00] <ompaul> !enter
[09:00] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:00] <siriusnova> funny but the i386 kernel works fine, no problems
[09:00] <cwillu> siriusnova: I know this isn't what you want to hear, but I'd just stick with the i386 kernel then
[09:01] <siriusnova> cwillu - yeahi know but it was nice to have the performance of the i686 kernel
[09:01] <siriusnova> :/
[09:01] <grphx> Okay could you try again?  70.185.201.53
[09:01] <ompaul> Intelligi, please put all your comments about the issue on one line then someone stands a chance of seeing it in one go - scattered over 10 minutes looses your audience#
[09:01] <avis> siriusnova, there is a website documenting problems with various laptops and dapper drake and sometimes, how to resolve them though i dont know the url.
[09:01] <harryv> ompaul: ??? dd data across ?
[09:02] <harryv> ompaul: i tried scanning with gpart. no success.
[09:02] <Intelligi> Well I had to dig through my closet to find the stupid box it came in.
[09:02] <antox> is it possible to assign a script to IP-address change?
[09:03] <Spec> Does ubotu do word counting?
[09:03] <ompaul> no
[09:03] <Intelligi> Open Office probably does.
[09:03] <Intelligi> Anyway, I need help!
[09:04] <JohhnyPhive> Can someone help me out with a program I'm trying to get working?  I'm trying to get bonfire working
[09:04] <jme> Intelligi: these things are pretty complicated
[09:04] <ompaul> Intelligi, if your card is not supported out of the box you need to  install is using ndiswrapper
[09:04] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[09:04] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:04] <erUSUL> Intelligi: have you read the ompaul comment?
[09:04] <jme> Intelligi:  and you're getting a LOT of bad advice in here
[09:05] <jme> I'd recommend posting to the forums with everything you know, and we'll go from there
[09:05] <WooD> Hi !
[09:05] <JohhnyPhive> I get errors when trying to run it saying it can't find libnotify.so.0, but yet I have it installed
[09:05] <jrattner1> hi
[09:05] <jme> JohhnyPhive: try 'where libnotify.so.0'
[09:05] <WooD> Any know what could replace Internet Explorer in ubuntu ? Some internet Web site really need Internet Explorer
[09:06] <JohhnyPhive> yup and I dont have it
[09:06] <antox> how do I know when IP-address changes?
[09:06] <rsk> WooD, internet explorer in wine
[09:06] <jrattner1> wine sucks
[09:06] <Spec> WooD: if you absolutely must have IE then use wine or cedega(i think?)
[09:06] <jrattner1> WooD, like what website?
[09:06] <cwillu> anybody know anything about the openoffice quicklauncher?
[09:06] <jme> WooD: there's a Firefox extension to spoof your browser, to make sites think you're using IE
[09:06] <jrattner1> cedega is for games
[09:06] <jme> and try Opera too - it has built-in spoofing
[09:06] <Intelligi> What forum?
[09:06] <Spec> I thought cedega did IE and office as well?
[09:07] <WooD> jme:  do you have any website address about this ?
[09:07] <jrattner1> jme, why would you want to spoof your browser
[09:07] <WooD> rsk:  thanks
[09:07] <jrattner1> Spec, does it? i thought not
[09:07] <WooD> Spec: thanks ..
[09:07] <jme> ubuntuforums.org
[09:07] <jme> WooD: google.com
[09:07] <JohhnyPhive> jme but I do have, libnotify.so.1, libnotify.so.1.0.0 and libnotify.so
[09:07] <JohhnyPhive> any ideas?
[09:07] <WooD> jrattner1: some secure sites need it
[09:07] <Spec> (Why would any website *want* to require IE? :-/)
[09:07] <rsk> WooD, chek the appdb on winehq.org for instructions installng i.e
[09:07] <jme> sorry, I don't know about that specific problem
[09:07] <jme> Spec: some sites rely on IE "features" and the admins are just too lazy
[09:07] <jrattner1> WooD, like what??? i didnt think there were browser specific website anymore...isnt that the point of w3c
[09:08] <jme> like Maple Story's site
[09:08] <WooD> rsk: ok
[09:08] <antox> is it possible to assign a script to IP-change event?
[09:08] <Spec> Hmm, maybe it's not cedega, what am I thinking of that lets you use office/IE in linux and is not free and based on wine?
[09:08] <redguy> WooD: you meant "secure" websites
[09:08] <jme> CrossoverOffice?
[09:08] <jrattner1> Spec, crossovewr
[09:08] <Spec> ah, crossover! :p
[09:08] <Spec> WooD: crossover or wine :p
[09:08] <WooD> jrattner1: http://canonextra.canon.ca  This is a ie required
[09:08] <alvaro> hi
[09:08] <cwillu> there's a package also that installs ie5, 5.5, and 6 in seperate wine installs;  I find it handy
[09:08] <jme> but if I were you, I'd try spoofing before you get into Wine
[09:08] <Basilio> how do i install FLOCK
[09:08] <jme> up to you
[09:08] <drcat> hello
[09:09] <drcat> "The KDE print server (kdeprintd) could not be contacted. Check that this server is running." what's wrong?
[09:09] <Spec> yes, try spoofing firefox to look like IE
[09:09] <jrattner1> WooD, it just opened in Firefox on windows.....
[09:09] <drcat> I am looking for kdeprintd, but can't find a file with that name
[09:09] <cwillu> drcat: what are you doing?
[09:09] <Spec> jrattner1: same
[09:09] <drcat> cwillu: I am installing a Windows-SAMBA shared printer on my kubuntu
[09:09] <WooD> jrattner1:  It does goes on the website but i cant login trough it
[09:09] <jrattner1> Interesting
[09:10] <cwillu> drcat: following which instructions?
[09:10] <jrattner1> maybe you should ditch cannon all together : ) j/k
[09:10] <chri111> how do i get to use another partition
[09:10] <cwillu> drcat;  might try asking in #kubuntu as well
[09:10] <Dial_tone> are there really just two skin in the mplayer-skins package? that seems dumb
[09:10] <jrattner1> 
[09:11] <drcat> cwillu: Sistem Settings -> Printers -> Add Printer
[09:11] <LittleEndian> My system just upgraded itself and now my wireless card wont work
[09:11] <WooD> jme: I try to find it but I dont know what word to type on google
[09:11] <chri111> can some one tell me how do i get to use another partition
[09:11] <jme> http://www.spoofstick.com/
[09:11] <Intelligi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1199681#post1199681
[09:12] <Intelligi> There, I posted.
[09:12] <jme> first hit for "firefox spoofing extension"
[09:12] <stefg> !fixres
[09:12] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:12] <LittleEndian> how do I get the kernel headers for my kernel?
[09:12] <cwillu> LittleEndian: synaptic, search for headers
[09:12] <LittleEndian> It shows some headers installed
[09:13] <chri111> how do i get to use another partition
[09:13] <harisund> Is there a quick howto for me to use a 686 kernel rather than the 386 that comes with the default install?
[09:13] <cwillu> LittleEndian: then they're probably installed already (linux-headers-i386, etc)
[09:13] <LittleEndian> cwillu, but they are not the same version as my kernel
[09:13] <cwillu> harisund: just install linux-kernel-i686 I believe
[09:13] <avis> harisund -- simple, apt-get install linux-686
[09:13] <jme> WooD: actually, you might want to try https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/59/
[09:13] <WooD> jme: : thanks
[09:14] <harisund> cwillu and avis, is it linux-686 or linux-kernel-686?
[09:14] <cwillu> LittleEndian: there's a meta package that installs the current version of the headers, make sure that's installed
[09:14] <harisund> oh well thanks anyway, I will try both :)
[09:14] <avis> linux-686
[09:14] <aLPHa_LeaK>  brb
[09:14] <avis> it has dependencies like restricted modules, etc.
[09:14] <antox> is it possible to notice when dynamic-IP changes?
[09:14] <chri111> can some one tell me how do i get to use another partition
[09:15] <cwillu> antox: not dead sure, but check the docs for dhclient
[09:15] <cwillu> docs even
[09:15] <avis> chri111 learn mount if you can't access the linux partition natively.
[09:15] <ompaul> antox, if in xchat no conversation in this channel for a while
[09:15] <erUSUL> chri111: what type of partition; format?
[09:15] <jme> ndiswrapper comes with Ubuntu, so that's often unnecessary
[09:16] <chri111> ext3
[09:17] <Ro1> hey all
[09:17] <nyarla> hi there! need help with mysql. Cant manage to set the default charset to utf8, even with modifying my.cnf. Databases are still created with latin-1 charset. Is there a bug? I'm using the latest versions (ubuntu6.06, mysql5.0.22)
[09:17] <biscon> does anyone know which ssl library gaim uses?
[09:17] <antox> cwillu: I've already looked there, but didn't notice anything useful... ll tray noch einmal...
[09:18] <cwillu> antox, let me look at it for a sec
[09:18] <k3nobi> hi there
[09:18] <Spec> biscon: ldd `which gimp`
[09:18] <k3nobi> i'm new to ubuntu and just tryed the livecd
[09:18] <LittleEndian> bingo it works
[09:19] <cwillu> are there dbus messages for dhclient events?
[09:19] <biscon> Spec: you mean gaim, but of course, thanks
[09:19] <k3nobi> now i wonder if i do i real installation are there separate filesystemf for /tmp and /var? can this be adjusted during installation procedure?
[09:19] <cwillu> antox, peek at dbus-viewer
[09:19] <chri111> is there any one that can help me
[09:19] <antox> cwillu: 10x
[09:19] <Spec> biscon: oops
[09:19] <Spec> biscon: i of course meant gaim :p
[09:19] <nyarla> should i ask into #debian?
[09:20] <biscon> Spec: had forgotten all about that handy command :)
[09:20] <arapehl> Does the Ubuntu install have a firewall? If not, what would be the best one for a home machine?
[09:20] <WooD> jme:  Thanks it works on certain web site that i was not allowed but still have some problem with others
[09:20] <Fritz> Hello everybody! Can somebody help me conecting an iPAQ to UBUNTU???????
[09:21] <mllr> anyone running xgl in ubuntu?
[09:21] <chri111> ok how do i edit my boot loader
[09:21] <avis> many of these questions are best tackled by google rather than asking here.  it seems the ops and support staff have low moral today.  its sad :(
[09:21] <ompaul> arapehl, unlike windows you don't need to install a firewall or a/v as there are no services started that listen externally, if you feel you must there is firestarted
[09:21] <cwillu> antox: you could also tail on dhclient.leases
[09:22] <ompaul> arapehl, sorry firestarter
[09:22] <avis> you can find many of your answers on the wiki or on ubuntuforums.org
[09:22] <bence> hi
[09:22] <yanis> I changed my hostname and now I get : sudo: unable to lookup book via gethostbyname()
[09:22] <_absolution_> how do I check which version of ubuntu I'm using?
[09:22] <harisund> _absolution use lsb_release
[09:22] <ompaul> avis, me low moral naa just busy with stuff
[09:22] <avis> ahh ok ompaul :)
[09:22] <arapehl> ompaul: so, only if I start up services that listen for external input do I have to worry about installing a firewall?
[09:23] <ompaul> arapehl, in general no
[09:23] <harisund> _absolution lsb_release -a
[09:23] <ompaul> arapehl, it depends on what you do
[09:23] <cwillu> arapehl: services generally won't do that automatically, unless they're for intended for that
[09:23] <Fritz> Can somebody help me conecting an iPAQ to UBUNTU???????
[09:23] <avis> ompaul i'd hope there was more than just you.   anyway its a nice thing to do to help but its a double edged sword at times.
[09:23] <ompaul> arapehl, too many options and too many cases to give a full answer
[09:23] <WooD> Fritz: did you tried it ?
[09:23] <_absolution_> thanks
[09:23] <wastrel> ubunto
[09:23] <WooD> Fritz: your model was 1950 right ?
[09:24] <Fritz> 1920
[09:24] <arapehl> Hmmm, okay, thanks.
[09:24] <Fritz> Wool 1910
[09:24] <trappist> arapehl: if you install services that listen on an internet-facing device, odds are you don't want a firewall interfering with that.  better to configure your services not to listen that way unless you want them to.
[09:24] <Dial_tone> when I resize a video in mplayer the window gets bigger but the video stays the same size; how d i fix that?
[09:25] <trappist> Dial_tone: echo "zoom=yes" >> ~/.mplayer/config
[09:25] <arapehl> trappist, ompaul, cwillu: cool, I think I understand now. so long as I don't have any services listening to the 'net, there's no real need for a firewall.
[09:25] <Fritz> Wool  I put "sudo synce-pstatus"  then I get "synce-pstatus: Unable to initialize RAPI: An unspecified failure has occurred"
[09:26] <johan_> I've heard that the only way to change theme colours in gnome is to edit ~/.gtkrc, but I haven't even got one. I have got .gtkrc-1.2-gnome2, but that only includes .gtkrc.mine which doesn't even exist. Help?
[09:26] <harisund> arapehl if you want to know what ports are open, use "sudo netstat -plant" . This will give you a listing of all TCP ports on your machine that are either open or already connected. You can pipe it to "grep ESTABLISH" or "grep LISTEN" to filter out. If you find any port open that shouldn't be, you need to find out what program is accessing that port
[09:26] <cwillu> arapehl: windows needs a firewall, because by default it has many things listening for instructions on any device capable of accepting a connection, and there isn't a thing you can do about it.  Also, any program that gets started on your machine can do the same, (including junk that ie makes available), and those programs all have root on your machine (unless you're one of the few who don't run under administrator)
[09:26] <ompaul> arapehl, correct, no need real or imaginary
[09:26] <chri111> can some one tell me how do i get to use another partition
[09:26] <Dial_tone> thanks, trappist
[09:26] <trappist> arapehl: of course, you want to be sure of that - one nice thing a firewall does is prevent damage from something you don't *know* is listening.
[09:26] <Fritz> WooD 1910
[09:26] <Pip> does anyone here use Xrdp?
[09:26] <Fritz> Wood  I put "sudo synce-pstatus"  then I get "synce-pstatus: Unable to initialize RAPI: An unspecified failure has occurred"
[09:26] <avis> ipaq to ubuntu should look at this url http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=195625
[09:26] <ompaul> trappist, and what might be listening by default out of the box
[09:27] <trappist> ompaul: nothing, per ubuntu policy
[09:27] <orcdestroyer> hello... how can I see where I have installed linux ? hda1, hda2 etc
[09:27] <johan_> check /etc/fstab
[09:27] <orcdestroyer> a type of INFO in my machine
[09:27] <Fritz> Wood  any idea?
[09:27] <wastrel> orcdestroyer:  try df
[09:27] <cwillu> orcdestroyer: mount
[09:27] <biscon> Spec: I tried ldd on both gaim elf aswell as the msn library shared object, but none of the libs like ssl libs, im trying to look at the generated makefiles now
[09:27] <orcdestroyer> ok
[09:28] <johan_> Does anyone know how to change theme colors in gnome?
[09:28] <orcdestroyer> thx
[09:28] <_fluffee> If Ribs is still here?  It almost worked like a charm!  Got errors on the update manager itself, but aside from at it was flying!
[09:28] <chri111> i really ned help
[09:29] <charlieblue> chri111: help for what?
[09:29] <chri111> how do i get to use another partition
[09:29] <trappist> orcdestroyer: mount | awk '{print $1','$3}' | grep '/$' | cut -d' ' -f1
[09:29] <harisund> chri111 what do you mean "use another partition"? Is it for installing a new OS? or for more data?
[09:29] <arapehl> trappist: good point. nothing like the fear of the unknown ;)
[09:29] <chri111> data
[09:29] <k3nobi> does ubuntu have a firewall?
[09:29] <porkpie> hi guy's just installing unbuntu server from cd ...the install started but it is failing on detecting the cdrom  ...????
[09:29] <orcdestroyer> trappist thx
[09:29] <charlieblue> chri111: the partition exists already?
[09:29] <chri111> yep
[09:30] <jhutchins_wk> johan_: Traditionally there is a master rc file somewhere in /etc, but it can be ammended/overridden by a users's own .rc file in their home directory.  That file doesn't exist by default, but can be created.  You can copy the original rc file, or just write it from scratch.
[09:30] <chri111> just can not put anything on it
[09:30] <arapehl> harisund: so, umm, being a newby and all... how do I validate the apps that ARE listening... ? I mean, the irc client, sure, but what of the rest? do I check them up somewhere to make sure they're legit?
[09:30] <charlieblue> chri111: which filesystem? ntfs?ext3?fat32?
[09:30] <chri111> ext3
[09:30] <charlieblue> chri111: maybe readonly mounted?
[09:30] <johan_> jhutchins_wk: thanks a lot. I heard about ~/.gtkrc, but it doesn't exist for me. That explains it.
[09:30] <chri111> how would i know
[09:30] <charlieblue> chri111: type "mount" in  a terminal & look at the output
[09:31] <chri111> /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[09:31] <harisund> arapehl with that listing you will be able to find out what software is accessing the port.
[09:31] <erUSUL> chri111: you have to format it as ext3 e.g and then mount it somewhere eg as /home or in /mnt/somedir
[09:31] <harisund> arapehl in most circumstances you will know it by looking at the command. else you can search for it on the net, or come here and somebody might have seen it .
[09:31] <Jeandre> Is there an easy way to get BOINC running? The Google hits (including the ubuntu forum) are scary as hell.
[09:31] <arapehl> harisund: yeah, but what if I don't know what that software is? meaning, sure, I can see its name, but I have no clue if it's legit or not.
[09:31] <charlieblue> and /media/hda1 ? whos the owner/group and how are the permisions?
[09:32] <orcdestroyer> how can I create an user that will be access into my server ?
[09:32] <orcdestroyer> ftp
[09:32] <arapehl> harisund: gotcha
[09:32] <chri111> i dunno
[09:32] <charlieblue> chri111: do "ls -al /media"
[09:32] <arapehl> harisund: I just thought there was a wiki or something that listed "legit" processes ;)
[09:32] <harisund> arapehl hmmmm.... under normal circumstances, no a problem, but yes, sometimes some program might just take over a port .. for a long time I didn't realize 6010 was used by my SSH server :)
[09:32] <jhutchins_wk> johan_: If you've got locate/slocate working you might be able to 'locate gtkrc'.
[09:32] <Spec> biscon: hmm, you're right
[09:32] <chri111> where
[09:33] <arapehl> harisund: I guess I'll just have to check each one and learn as I go :)
[09:33] <charlieblue> chri111: in a terminal. just to  see who is the owner of the folder.
[09:33] <johan_> jhutchins_wk: the built in search works for me.
[09:33] <biscon> Spec: yeah does gnutls provide ssl? im looking at some of the plugin makefiles
[09:33] <_fluffee> For any 'bots scraping: The problem was "How to upgrade offline" or how to feed Ubby a CD out of band.  The resolution was "dpkg -i *.deb or so" which did leave the graphical manager out of sorts, but that was minor.
[09:33] <harisund> arapehl the problem with a firewal blocking all unknown ports is that sometimes 2 or more ports may be required by a single program, unknown to you (the program is known to you, the fact that it opens 2 port is unknown)
[09:33] <biscon> Spec: but im not good at reading automake generated stuff :)
[09:33] <chri111> root
[09:33] <_absolution_> why are some of my wallpapers appear like they're tiled?
[09:33] <_absolution_> I'm using fluxbox by the way
[09:34] <johan_> jhutchins_wk: it seems as if all the themes has got gtkrc in /usr/share/themes/
[09:34] <charlieblue> chri111: change it to your user or change the group to "users" and add your user to the group
[09:34] <Otacon22> hi all
[09:34] <harisund> arapehl for example, samba uses 2 ports :) (so does Windows , for the file sharing) .. so yeah, the best way is to keep a constant watch and learn as you go along
[09:34] <porkpie1> guy's any idea on the cdrom issue please
[09:34] <charlieblue> chri111: type into a console: "sudo chown myuser.users /media/hda1"
[09:34] <chri111> so should i change where it is mounted
[09:34] <charlieblue> myuser is your username, chri111
[09:34] <arapehl> harisund: and then the app doesn't work and I don't know why... yeah, I can see how a firewall can cause trouble too. k, well then I'll take the "vigilant" approach. thanks again man.
[09:34] <arapehl> (everyone)
[09:34] <Spec> biscon: around lines 190 in Makefile.in under the ssl plugin
[09:35] <biscon> Spec: ahh it does.. seems like gaim can either use gnutls or nns
[09:35] <charlieblue> chri111: no. just change the permissions for the directory.
[09:35] <biscon> Spec: found it but thanks :)
[09:35] <chri111> ok
[09:35] <Spec> biscon: i barely understand what that's saying :p
[09:36] <Spec> evil evil make
[09:36] <Otacon22> My firend had a problem with ndiswrapper: he have "driver present, hardware present" but the usb wireless key don't light, he have to do anything yet?
[09:36] <chri111> nope
[09:36] <jorgp> where is a good place to ask for help with gnumeric
[09:36] <biscon> Spec: I have no problem with handwritten makefiles, but I haven't got around automake/autoconf yet.. I really should someday
[09:37] <chri111> still nothing
[09:37] <_fluffee> I thank all, especially Ribs, I've got much to sort out, but it's Sunday morning for me, so I've accomplished enough for the mo'.
[09:37] <_fluffee> Thanks again!
[09:38] <wastrel> where in the world is it sunday?
[09:38] <s|k> do I make a ln -s symbolic link in /etc/init.d/filename in order for it to automatically start 'filename' if I type it in the terminal?
[09:38] <amarokker> Hi, i was about to update and download about 450M of archives- when it informed me i was running out of diskspace- i have about 4GB for /var mounted as a separate partition
[09:38] <biscon> Spec: SSL Library/Libraries......... : GnuTLS <-- there we go :) thanks for helping me tracking that one down
[09:38] <ompaul> wastrel, saturday and friday only
[09:38] <amarokker> but when i checked inside /var/cache/apt/archives/ i couldnt find that much archives-
[09:38] <amarokker> what gives?
[09:38] <iKs> hello all !
[09:39] <s|k> ln -s /path/to/target/fileName /etc/init.d/filename <--- will this make it so that I jsut need to use 'filename' to start a program called 'filename' ?
[09:39] <erUSUL> s|k: better use bum or update-rc.d
[09:39] <s|k> erUSUL: what is that?
[09:39] <ompaul> !fr
[09:39] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:40] <erUSUL> s|k: update-rc.d will create the apropiate links for you for files in /etc/init.d/
[09:40] <erUSUL> s|k: man update-rc.d
[09:40] <Daniel_Busch_Lap> !easysource
[09:40] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[09:40] <s|k> erUSUL: thanks
[09:40] <erUSUL> s|k: no problem
[09:41] <hctibtipots> can some1 help me to open .rar files in ubuntu??
[09:42] <nonix4> Heh, my 6.06 LTS cds arrived. LOL - there's a BUG right in front of my eyes before I even put the cds in my 'puter :-)
[09:42] <johan_> some gtk2-themes I download don't look quite right, they look just plain and not at all like in the screenshots, I've heard that there is something I need to install but I don't know what. What is it?
[09:42] <nonix4> ... the envelope has the phone number in floating point format, w/ trailing e+011 as it had too many digits!
[09:42] <flujan> hi all, I'm trying to record DVD+RW using ubuntu dapper without success...
[09:43] <flujan> someone already experience this issue?
[09:43] <eobanb> nonix4, ...???
[09:43] <flujan> I'm wondering that it is a bug
[09:43] <kbrooks> how do i build FROM a source package?
[09:43] <hctibtipots> how can i oper .rar files???
[09:43] <johan_> easyubuntu
[09:43] <johan_> has got an option for that
[09:44] <erUSUL> kbrooks: what are you trying to build?
[09:44] <erUSUL> hctibtipots: unrar x file.rar
[09:44] <kbrooks> johan_: umm, no it doesnt
[09:44] <redguy> !rar
[09:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[09:44] <froud_> Is there an equivalent of KDE System Guard on Ubuntu GNOME Desktop?
[09:44] <hctibtipots> ive tried thta
[09:44] <eobanb> nonix4, what are you talking about
[09:44] <kbrooks> erUSUL: i'm talking about a source .deb package. lets say i have only the *.dsc
[09:45] <redguy> hctibtipots: try again. it works.
[09:45] <johan_> kbrooks: it does for me, I installed it just a few minutes ago
[09:45] <nonix4> eobanb: Apparently the mail order system for the cds uses a _float_ for phone numbers (printed on envelope) which defaults to 10 digits or less. Too bad phone numbers can contain more digits. A _double_ would be a better choice or better yet, some of the bignum implementations :-)
[09:45] <hctibtipots> kkk
[09:45] <kbrooks> johan_: an option for what?
[09:45] <johan_> installing unrar
[09:45] <eobanb> nonix4, think you could take a picture?
[09:45] <kbrooks> johan_:  i confused you then
[09:45] <kbrooks> sry
[09:46] <johan_> no problem
[09:47] <nonix4> eobanb: well the phone number still gets close enough although it is missing one digit... don't have a camera nearby at the moment either :(
[09:49] <Blaze^^> hello, what should i type in order to get full permition of my partitions?
[09:49] <Blaze^^> *permission
[09:49] <johan_> my gcc can't create executables, I've had this problem before but I've forgotten how I solved it.
[09:50] <Tmob> johan_, what is the issue?
[09:50] <roostishaw> anyone, why can't i open firestarter? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16859 is the error i get
[09:50] <Blaze^^> johan_: you should install build-essential(s)
[09:50] <johan_> Tmob: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[09:50] <antox> cwillu: sorry, but I still do not understand, how to make it work. How do I monitor changes of dhcp.leases? I look for a simple way... I am still unexperienced with *nix and the only idea is to involve awk and tail -f. Actually I do not even need the IP itself, just want to launch another script, when new IP is leased. :/
[09:50] <johan_> aah, thanks Blaze^
[09:50] <Blaze^^> you're welcome, johan_ :)
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> Blaze^^: Could you be more specific as to what you need?
[09:50] <Tmob> johan_, you prolly dont have automake stuff.. install the build-essential package
[09:50] <dli> johan_, install build-essential
[09:50] <nonix4> eobanb: You can simulate what is printed on my envelope with: perl -e 'printf "%.10e\n", 358912345678'
[09:50] <bash> server irc.powers.cl
[09:51] <bash> jajaja
[09:51] <Blaze^^> tonyyarusso: i want to be able to read and write to my mounted points
[09:51] <eobanb> nonix4, ahha that's funny
[09:51] <Jowi> roostishaw: do you have X started?
[09:51] <eobanb> does it even have a decimal point after the first digit?
[09:51] <Blaze^^> because when i try to install vmware it tells me the following thing: Unable to change the access rights of the file /media/sda3/Virtual Machines.
[09:51] <roostishaw> Jowi, umm... how can i tell?
[09:51] <Blaze^^> tonyyarusso: any idea?
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> Blaze^^: What type of partition?  (fs?)
[09:51] <patrickj> how can I mount a partition so everyone can write to it?
[09:51] <Jowi> roostishaw: well, if gnome is running or if you are using the console
[09:51] <Blaze^^> vfat, tonyyarusso
[09:52] <johan_> Blaze^^: maybe that's obvious, but are you running as root?
[09:52] <roostishaw> Jowi, oh, ok. yes, its started
[09:52] <patrickj> its an ext3 partition
[09:52] <SeanTater> hello
[09:52] <Blaze^^> yes, johan_
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> !fat
[09:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[09:52] <dli> patrickj, chown 1777 <the folder>
[09:52] <patrickj> ok
[09:52] <nonix4> (no, I'm not a perl coder; more like ruby / python / C / asm / awk / scheme one; but trivial programs are still often easy to write in perl)
[09:52] <dli> patrickj, sorry, s/chown/chmod/
[09:52] <Blaze^^> someone told me once to type something that chmod-ded sth but i don't remember it
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> Blaze^^: Check that page - should be there.
[09:53] <Blaze^^> ok, tonyyarusso, 10x :)
[09:53] <johan_> I need to get gtk+-2.8, can I get that from apt-get?
[09:53] <nnk> anyone want to recommend a good anonymizing proxy for linux?
[09:53] <patrickj> im moving all my files to my secondary hd
[09:53] <dli> johan_, which package are you building?
[09:53] <prg2020> Hi, I'm attempting to do a routine update with synaptic package manger and it tells me that several packages 'cannot be authenticated..etc.etc.'  I havn't seen this message before, can someone comment on what this is about?
[09:53] <eobanb> nnk, that's not really an ubuntu-specific question, but you might try tor
[09:53] <patrickj> anyone in here run WoW under wine?
[09:54] <johan_> dli: it's a gtk2 theme
[09:54] <johan_> rezlooks-engine
[09:54] <hctibtipots> where can i get wine?
[09:54] <eobanb> !wine
[09:54] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[09:55] <patrickj> Guess noone runs WoW under wine eh :P
[09:55] <patrickj> is there anyway to relocate my wine c drive ?
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> !wow > patrickj
[09:55] <roostishaw> Jowi, any ideas?
[09:56] <nnk> eobanb: Yeah, I'm trying it, but its not really working out...and the frustrating part is I'm blocked from eff.org, where tor is hosted.  :P
[09:56] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:56] <nnk> eobanb: makes it hard to read the docs.
[09:56] <Jowi> roostishaw: just got a call, brb
[09:57] <roostishaw> Jowi, oh, sorry... ok
[09:57] <dragonrider> hello everybody
[09:57] <eobanb> welcome, dragonrider
[09:57] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:57] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:57] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:57] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:57] <chri111> how do i edit my mbr
[09:57] <eobanb> !patience
[09:57] <chri111> sorry
[09:57] <patrickj> calm down son
[09:57] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour.
[09:57] <chri111> did not mean that
[09:57] <patrickj> /boot/grub/menu.lst i believe
[09:57] <eobanb> er, someone changed the patience entry, argh.
[09:58] <dragonrider> i seek somebody who have succeded to make work a win Tv pvr usb2
[09:58] <patrickj> is for editing the grub menu
[09:58] <Hhhhh> hey guys, in this older box: PIII 667 Mhz, 384 MB RAM, kubuntu or xubuntu? opinions?
[09:58] <chri111> i need to edit my mbr
[09:58] <prg2020> does anyone here use maxima / wxmaxima ?  Does the latest version (installed through supported packages for ubuntu) work for you?  It does not for me.
[09:59] <s|k> erUSUL: what do I do with a .bin file?
[09:59] <s|k> oops
[09:59] <nonix4> chri111: what do you need to do to it?
[09:59] <s|k> didn't mean to highlight
[09:59] <eobanb> chri111, i'm sure if you ask a million more times, someone will help you... *rolls eyes*
[09:59] <johan_> s|k: is it a cd-image?
[09:59] <ompaul> chrill you can ask again in 15 minutes,
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> Hhhhh: You could probably get away with either okay, but Xubuntu would be a bit snappier of course.
[09:59] <brupp> anyone on a IBM Thinkpad R32, also having networking difficulties?
[09:59] <s|k> johan_: no I don't think so
[10:00] <Jowi> roostishaw: back. so, you have X started and has opened a terminal and wrote the command and that's the error you got? (just making sure you are trying to start firestarter while using the graphical interface)
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> brupp: No, but T43 with no problems.
[10:00] <s|k> johan_: it's the netbeans ide installer
[10:00] <ompaul> esr
[10:00] <ompaul> !ask
[10:00] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:00] <roostishaw> Jowi, yes. thats exactly what i did.
[10:00] <porkpie1> anyone here had problems install unbuntu server on a compaq dl 360 .....
[10:00] <MetaMorfoziS> !firefox
[10:00] <brupp> tonyyarusso: I installed dapper for my sister and now she's having difficulties, the network adapters disconnect/connect very frequently (wireless/wired)... can't have network access anymore
[10:00] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[10:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command for getting dependencies?
[10:00] <garryF> chri111: If you can change your nick name to somethign easier to tell ones from I's you might get some tells about how to fix things. Now, do you really need to edit your mbr or do you need to restore it?
[10:01] <Jowi> roostishaw: do you have "xlibs" and  "xlibs-data" installed?
[10:01] <porkpie1> I am having problem detecting the cdrom  even though it's installing from cdrom.  It fails on the detect cd section asking for a driver ???
[10:01] <ryanpg> what's the channel for edgy discussion?
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> brupp: Weird.  I don't think I've had that problem with any version.  Have you looked around on the forums and the LaptopTestingTeam wiki page?
[10:02] <johan_> s|k: have you tried just chmod +x and then ./file.bin?
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg: #ubuntu+1
[10:02] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, ty
[10:02] <porkpie1> Can I install uubuntu over the internet ??
[10:02] <hctibtipots> im an idiot
[10:02] <brupp> tonyyarusso: found nothing that resembles my errors (from dmesg).....
[10:02] <s|k> johan_: I'll try that thanks
[10:02] <hctibtipots> i cant unrar any files, any 1 wanna try and help me???
[10:02] <lophyte> hey everyone
[10:03] <johan_> s|k tell me if it works
[10:03] <s|k> johan_: yeah that did it thanks :)
[10:03] <lophyte> hctibtipots: you have to install the rar package
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> porkpie1: One of the links from !install _might_ have an answer.
[10:03] <hctibtipots> i believe so
[10:03] <roostishaw> Jowi, no, and they're not available... but im installing the packages that "replaice them'
[10:03] <porkpie1> tonyyarusso:?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> brupp: Dang.  Keep asking every once in a while - maybe you'll find an R32 user.
[10:04] <amonkey> i'm compiling glitz and autogen says: glitz will be compiled with the following backends:
[10:04] <amonkey>   GLX: no
[10:04] <amonkey>   AGL: no
[10:04] <amonkey>   EGL: no
[10:04] <amonkey>   WGL: no
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> !install > porkpie1
[10:04] <amonkey> . that's bad, right?
[10:04] <roostishaw> Jowi, ahh... still the same result... should i restart x?
[10:04] <hctibtipots> lophyte can i pm you?
[10:04] <brupp> tonyyarusso: did you supply some special grub boot options, like acpi=off?
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> (Am I doing that bot syntax right?  I'm not even sure...)
[10:04] <lophyte> hctibtipots: go for it
[10:04] <Intelligi> What is that windows program used to connect to Linux machines?
[10:04] <Jowi> roostishaw: i think you should, yes.
[10:04] <Intelligi> winscp or something?
[10:05] <ompaul> amonkey, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org when you want to dump a lot of data (over 2 lines)
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> brupp: No.
[10:05] <porkpie1> tonyyarusso:I didn't see an internet install option ?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> Intelligi: Putty?
[10:05] <Intelligi> Not that one, the other one.
[10:05] <brupp> tonyyarusso: hmm, ok then. The unfortunate thing is that at the beginning (2 weeks ago) it worked like a charm..... then gradually it got worse. I'll keep an eye on this channel, searching for other poor R32 users ;-)
[10:05] <prg2020> Can someone tell me how I can determine if a package is screwed up or if it my system that is preventing it from running properly?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> porkpie1: I think it can be done, but isn't very simple.  Google probably knows, but unfortunately I don't have a link for you offhand.
[10:06] <amonkey> ompaul, didn't meant to use more than one.
[10:06] <antox> is there a daemon, which launches dhclient? or how does system know when to request a new IP?
[10:06] <McNutella> evening there, I am in a terminal at the moment.. I would like to stop X, is there a command to do this ?
[10:06] <porkpie1> tonyyarusso:ok
[10:06] <Jowi> roostishaw: can you run any graphical apps like that? like "gksudo gedit"?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> prg2020: Searching bug reports on Launchpad would be a start, to see if anyone else has had an issue.
[10:06] <nnk> eobanb, tor up and running.  Thanks.
[10:06] <garryF> init 3 I think might stop x
[10:06] <roostishaw> Jowi, yes, i can.
[10:06] <kcbanner> I cant get my wireless network working properly...I type the ssid and the WEP key, and it sits there enabling the connection and then stops and defaults back to an SSID I used a long time ago..
[10:06] <lophyte> hctibtipots: you gonna PM me?
[10:06] <McNutella> what does init mean garryF  ?
[10:07] <hctibtipots> i did
[10:07] <roostishaw> Jowi, ill restart x, brb
[10:07] <dman> hi.. did a unsuccesfull upgrade to dapper from breezy yesterday, and since moved back to dapper. mplayer did not work anymore (seems partially removed), and neither was xchat. got mplayer to reinstall, and xchat as well.... but have some strange things in /usr/share/doc/xchat/
[10:07] <lophyte> that's odd.. I'm not getting any PMs
[10:07] <Intelligi> Neither putty nor winscp can find my Ubuntu computer, though on the router it says it is located at 192.168.1.5
[10:07] <dman> -rwS--s---  1 863307782 796014637 40960 1995-02-01 04:43 sample_script.pl
[10:07] <s|k> dman: you went back to breezy you mean?
[10:07] <kcbanner> YEah...you must be registered with nickserv to send PMs
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> lophyte: You need to be registered, as does the sender.
[10:07] <dman> yes s|k
[10:07] <lophyte> ah
[10:07] <s|k> is it even possible to downgrade
[10:07] <s|k> :/
[10:07] <lophyte> I am registered.. I guess the hctibtipots isn't
[10:07] <dman> yes
[10:08] <dli> s|k, yes, but not easily or recommended
[10:08] <s|k> dman: what about dapper didn't work?
[10:08] <hctibtipots> i am i have pmd ppl on here before
[10:08] <patrickj> yay
[10:08] <s|k> I bet it's easier to get dapper to work than to downgrade heh
[10:08] <patrickj> xmms works with my music :D
[10:08] <garryF> McNutella I think it's a command to start a script for a particular runlevel, 3 being stop x and go into terminal mode, 6 means shut down. I'm not sure it exists in ubuntu
[10:08] <fourat> how to get my microphone working
[10:08] <lophyte> hctibtipots: weird.. I'm not getting a PM
[10:08] <antox> or how does the system know when to request a new IP? running daemon or?
[10:08] <dman> i could not get it to upgrade, it had some conflicts and could not finish s|k
[10:08] <Raziekiel> Is there any 3rd party ventrilo clients for linux? or anyway to connect to vent servers on linux"?
[10:08] <hctibtipots> thats jakked
[10:09] <dli> fourat, make sure you get the correct socket (hole), then, run, alsamixer
[10:09] <kcbanner> I cant get my wireless network working properly...I type the ssid and the WEP key, and it sits there enabling the connection and then stops and defaults back to an SSID I used a long time ago..
[10:09] <McNutella> garryF: looking in the ubuntu book here.. looks like it is available to ubuntu.. lots of runlevels
[10:09] <lophyte> hctibtipots: what's the problem?
[10:09] <dman> look at the file: is not it very strange s|k??? -rwS--s---  1 863307782 796014637 40960 1995-02-01 04:43 sample_script.pl
[10:09] <s|k> dman: how did you upgrade? did you change your sources list to dapper? all of them? and then did a sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[10:09] <hctibtipots> trying to unrar a file and have tried just about everthing and cant do it
[10:09] <lophyte> hctibtipots: did you install the rar package?
[10:09] <garryF> McNutella Sure are. They vary from distro to distro sometimes.
[10:09] <dman> exactly s|k
[10:09] <hctibtipots> i believe so
[10:09] <dli> dman, chown it :)
[10:10] <dman> cant dli, not even as root
[10:10] <lophyte> hctibtipots: type unrar in the terminal and see what it says
[10:10] <dli> dman, lsattr it
[10:10] <s|k> dman: I'd report a bug in the upgrade
[10:10] <judah> dman: that just means it setuid (stickybit) owner and group
[10:10] <lophyte> hctibtipots: er, rather... type rar
[10:10] <lophyte> not unrar
[10:10] <hctibtipots> bash: rar: command not found
[10:10] <dman> judah, and where do the numbers for owner and group come from?
[10:11] <lophyte> hctibtipots: ya.. you need to install the rar package
[10:11] <lophyte> hctibtipots: type sudo apt-get install rar
[10:11] <dli> dman, can you at least chmod it now?
[10:11] <hctibtipots> ok and how??
[10:11] <garryF> More people are falling into the trap that synaptic sets, saying to press a button to upgrade to dapper when more is needed. I did the "Button Upgrade" thing and ended up having to reinstall.
[10:11] <dman> let me check dli..
[10:11] <johan_> what's the terminal command for taking a screenshot?
[10:11] <garryF> seems they should change that so it don't show up
[10:11] <s|k> there's a wiki page that instructs how to upgrade
[10:11] <patrickj> how do i switch the soundcard alsa is using?
[10:11] <fourat> dli how to know that
[10:12] <s|k> that's what people should be using
[10:12] <rsk> johan_, import -w root or use scrot
[10:12] <judah> dman: you'll have to use sudo to chomd it most likely
[10:12] <hctibtipots> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[10:12] <garryF> yep
[10:12] <lophyte> !repo
[10:12] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[10:12] <dman> judah, does not take it
[10:12] <patrickj> ?
[10:12] <sysdoc> s|k, be very aware that if you have a custom kernel the upgrade can be a disaster
[10:12] <dman> dli: output: suS--a--c-ZXE---- ./sample_script.pl
[10:12] <dman> dli, ???
[10:13] <tonyyarusso> johan_: import?
[10:13] <lophyte> hctibtipots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine follow those instructions first
[10:13] <lophyte> hctibtipots: then try the apt-get again
[10:13] <hctibtipots> ok will do
[10:14] <dman> judah, chmod: changing permissions of `sample_script.pl': Operation not permitted
[10:14] <dli> dman, sudo chattr it
[10:14] <paladinhugo> hello all
[10:14] <adu> hey
[10:14] <adu> done anyone here know much about rsync?
[10:14] <dli> dman, how does attr got set ?
[10:14] <judah> adu: some.
[10:15] <paladinhugo> I have /home mounted on a differente partition.. how can I move /home to the main partition?
[10:15] <dman> dli, whats chattr?
[10:15] <judah> dman man chattr
[10:15] <adu> like if i rsync a directory containing A, B, D into a directory containing A, B(newer), C, D, then what happens?
[10:15] <dman> dli, it got set after a failed upgrade to dapper
[10:15] <dli> dman, can you overwrite it?
[10:15] <ggilbert_> adu: the old B should b downloaded. not sure if C will be removed off hand
[10:16] <dman> dli, nope
[10:16] <adu> ggilbert_: ahh, cool, so it keeps the newest one regardless?
[10:16] <dli> dman, like: cat /dev/null > foo , as root
[10:16] <inrelief> hey all - what's the recommended minimum size for the root partition?  i'm not making the mistake of having my home directory on the root partition, and am looking to give it its own, with maximum size.
[10:16] <judah> adu: why wouldn't you sync it the other direction if the other directory is newer? and then you can use --exclude-from=filename and put C in the file.
[10:16] <ggilbert_> adu: It makes the destination look like the source copy
[10:16] <adu> judah: ok
[10:17] <ggilbert_> adu: so if the destination was newer, it would be downgraded
[10:17] <dli> dman, can you boot livecd and fsck the partition
[10:17] <adu> ggilbert_: ouch
[10:17] <bobk> looking for make in breezy ..  have gcc... what pkg do i install?
[10:17] <dli> dman, it sounds an fs error to me
[10:17] <inrelief> anybody on recommended root partition filesize?
[10:17] <judah> adu: yeah.. what is your ultimate goal with the rsync?
[10:17] <stefg> !faq > bobk
[10:17] <ggilbert_> adu: rsync isn't meant to do two way sync. Look at unision if that's what you want
[10:17] <ggilbert_> unison
[10:18] <adu> judah: maintaining 3 computers with subsets of my mondo-big harddrive
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> adu: I've used rsync, but don't know any of it from memory.  The reason being that rsync has an exceptionally good man page.
[10:18] <hctibtipots> lophyte: tried that and this is what i got Package rar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:18] <hctibtipots> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:18] <hctibtipots> is only available from another source
[10:18] <hctibtipots> E: Package rar has no installation candidate
[10:18] <dman> dli, sample_script.pl: Permission denied
[10:18] <stefg> !rar
[10:18] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[10:18] <judah> adu: you could use subversion to do that.. keep a repository that has the current directory of what you have.. then sync it to each machine..
[10:18] <Spec> hctibtipots: unrar-free probably
[10:18] <ggilbert_> adu: Yeah, that sounds like the sort of thing unison does.
[10:18] <lophyte> hctibtipots: did you apt-get update first?
[10:18] <judah> adu: of course you'd have to set up a subversion server. but it would be cool.
[10:19] <hctibtipots> yes
[10:19] <adu> unison? is that someone's nick?
[10:19] <dli> dman, fsck first, stop playing with it
[10:19] <ggilbert_> adu: No, it's an application
[10:19] <judah> adu: or do what ggilbert_ says.. unison i'm sure will do it.
[10:19] <adu> judah: ya, that would be cool :)
[10:19] <dman> ok dli
[10:19] <lophyte> hctibtipots: try the URL ubotu gave
[10:19] <dli> adu, unison is a tool to sync files across computers
[10:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats the command for getting dependencies?
[10:19] <Random1> what's the command to delete a file?
[10:19] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, nautilus
[10:19] <hctibtipots> kkk
[10:19] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how can i install kdelibs, i want toi install x32 and x64 kdelibs
[10:19] <bluefoxicy> ugh I hate that.
[10:19] <ggilbert_> http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[10:19] <dli> Random1, better to do that with a GUI tool, like nautilus
[10:20] <Random1> i dont want to
[10:20] <adu> judah: but i really don't want a monolithic checkout thing, I only want to checkout some files from some directories, and do something like "svn up" that only updates the files that are there, and not download the whole directory
[10:20] <bluefoxicy> Anyone with a USB drive:  Plug it in.  Go to your home folder, right-click a file, copy.  Go to the USB disk, right-click, paste.
[10:20] <dman> dli, i'll force fsck via fstab
[10:20] <Random1> and it wont let me because im not root
[10:20] <bluefoxicy> Notice, paste is greyed out
[10:20] <bluefoxicy> so you can't!
[10:20] <dli> VieLGuS-KuTaS, install kubuntu-desktop
[10:20] <bluefoxicy> (but you can drag from one window to another and it does it fine)
[10:20] <ryanpg> anyone know how to create an Applications folder in gnome, ala OSX?
[10:20] <dli> dman, even better, fsck with a livecd
[10:20] <Jowi> bluefoxicy: so file a bug
[10:20] <Jowi> !bug
[10:20] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[10:20] <adu> ryanpg: i might, refine your question (i'm on macosx)
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> Jowi:  i've got to leave in about 2 minutes
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> for 3 days
[10:21] <Coopster> I can't get Ubuntu dapper 6.06 to boot on my nForce430 based mobo, it hangs when it's loading the OHCI_HCD support (on the splash screen it's when it says "Mounting root filesystem") I've googled all yesterday to no avail,can someone pls help?
[10:21] <Random1> is there a way i can be in root in nautilus?
[10:21] <stefg> !permissions
[10:21] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html - file permissions are explained at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[10:21] <ryanpg> used to be doable by opening Applications:/// URI in nautilus, but that feature was removed recently...
[10:21] <ggilbert_> adu: One thing you have to be careful of is file deletion. If you delete from one machine unison would remove it from all of the other machines
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> I'm far too busy, anyway.
[10:21] <bluefoxicy> maybe when I get back, if no one else has.
[10:21] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> dli: i already have the desktop instlled , i want to install developement libraries ,
[10:21] <Jowi> bluefoxicy: holidays are great :) so file it when you get back. i bet it is not a system critical bug hehe
[10:21] <tsubasaleguedin> hello
[10:21] <adu> ggilbert_: oh, is unison a program?
[10:21] <ggilbert_> adu: yes
[10:21] <adu> ic
[10:21] <ryanpg> adu, you know how on OSX there's a folder called Applications with all the icons? I'd like that for gnome.
[10:21] <dli> VieLGuS-KuTaS, kdelibs4-dev
[10:22] <tsubasaleguedin> a friend try to install ubuntu dapper but the installer crash with this error
[10:22] <tsubasaleguedin> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6083/spa04860of.jpg
[10:22] <bluefoxicy> Jowi:  i know a few ways to "freeze X" with nautilus
[10:22] <ggilbert_> adu: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/
[10:22] <adu> ryanpg: the /Applications folder doesn't just have the icons, it has the applications themselves, along with resources and executables
[10:22] <Jowi> bluefoxicy: guess why i'm not using gnome. :P
[10:22] <bluefoxicy> Jowi:  like connecting to sourceforge over SSH through nautilus; or dragging a file from nautilus to gedit from over SSH when its access to the key has expired
[10:22] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> dli: ty
[10:23] <lophyte> brb
[10:23] <adu> ggilbert_: thanks
[10:23] <Ro1> in xmms...for some reason it keeps playing the first song over and over in my playlaist?
[10:23] <stefg> ryanpg: http://akaimbatman.blogspot.com/2005/06/linux-desktop-distribution-of-future_15.html
[10:23] <Ro1> how can i fix thatg
[10:23] <Milky> Hello, I have a problem with neverwinter nights.
[10:23] <Ro1> !ask
[10:23] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:24] <Ro1> in xmms...for some reason it keeps playing the first song over and over in my playlaist....how can i make it so it plays normaly (one time per song)
[10:24] <tsubasaleguedin> What the hell with ubuntu installer ?
[10:24] <tsubasaleguedin> http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/6083/spa04860of.jpg
[10:24] <Milky> I've successfully installed neverwinter nights, SoU and HotU, but when I start the game it only finds NWN and SoU, anyone knows why this is happening?
[10:24] <Coopster> I can't get Ubuntu dapper 6.06 to boot on my nForce430 based mobo, it hangs when it's loading the OHCI_HCD support (on the splash screen it's when it says "Mounting root filesystem") I've googled all yesterday to no avail,can someone pls help?  Neither the liveCD nor the install I have on my HD (which was just recently put into the comp) will boot
[10:24] <Milky> using the loki installers
[10:24] <porkpie1> why would ubuntu start the installation from CD and then say it can't find the cdrom
[10:24] <Ro1> in xmms...for some reason it keeps playing the first song over and over in my playlaist....how can i make it so it plays normaly (one time per song)
[10:25] <ryanpg> stefg, cool... that looks like it defines the problem well.. but it offers no current solution.
[10:25] <adu> ryanpg: but I beleive you can do that with .desktop files, you could have a single folder with all the .desktop files related to applications in it...
[10:25] <gnomefreak> !repeat
[10:25] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:25] <dredhammer> hello can anyone point me to a dvd distro of dapper that has both ubunut and kubuntu in the iso?
[10:25] <stefg> ryanpg: read further.. it's multipart
[10:25] <Ro1> yeah yeah..iknow
[10:25] <adu> ryanpg: I beleive that .desktop files work with gnome and kde, so its not gnome specific
[10:25] <yggdrasil> coopster try the safe mode and pay attention to how its labeling your drives.. i have a laptop and when i boot it its hda2 but when i dock it ti boots to hde1 ...
[10:25] <Jowi> bluefoxicy: ah, well, I can't beat that. you win.
[10:25] <Milky> So I guess no one have problems with NWN?
[10:25] <adu> ryanpg: do you know about .desktop files?
[10:26] <dredhammer> I just saw this ad but unfortunately the book won't be published till august http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0132435942/ref=cm_bg_f_1/104-5399294-7191910?v=glance&n=283155
[10:26] <Ro1> that should be a great book
[10:26] <Coopster> yggdrasil: it doesnt actually get to the mounting portion, it locks up with the last message being OCHI_HCD related, when I turn off the splash screen
[10:26] <Jowi> bluefoxicy: (openbox3 + rox-filer is running here)
[10:26] <Coopster> yggdrasil:  in safe and normal mode
[10:26] <yggdrasil> hmm...
[10:26] <yggdrasil> i dont know then does breezy boot ?
[10:26] <dredhammer> yes apparently it comes with a dvd with both kubuntu and ubunut installed
[10:26] <adu> ryanpg: http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/
[10:26] <dredhammer> or the distros
[10:26] <Coopster> yggdrasil:  no clue
[10:26] <dredhammer> i mean
[10:26] <Ro1> tahts pretty sweeyt
[10:27] <dredhammer> yeah i was hoping that an iso already existed of it
[10:27] <Ro1> by the time the book comes out Edgy eft will prolly be just about out
[10:27] <ryanpg> stefg, well I've looked it over (not read it entirely of course) I see rox and klik as possible future solutions... am I missing something?
[10:27] <ardchoille> dredhammer: Thank you very much for posting that URL for the book. I'll beordering a copy :)
[10:27] <dredhammer> have to send some dvd-rs of ubuntu and kubuntu overseas
[10:28] <dredhammer> but if theres a an iso with both
[10:28] <dredhammer> won't need to do that
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Ro1: book comes out end of julyish edgy will be out in oct
[10:28] <Ro1> oh
[10:28] <stefg> ryanpg: not missing, but not fully recognizing the implications :-)
[10:29] <ryanpg> adu, yeah I know about .desktop files... I want a nautilus virtual folder that represents the same hierarchy as the gnome main menu.
[10:29] <AlexC> Hey
[10:29] <ryanpg> stefg, so spell it out for me please :) I must be too tired to figure it out on my own
[10:30] <Hhhhh> hey guys, in this older box: PIII 667 Mhz, 384 MB RAM, would ubuntu dapper run OK?
[10:30] <mlowe> how can i copy/boot install iso to usb stick ?
[10:30] <adu> ryanpg: o
[10:30] <AlexC> I've just installed Apache/MySQL and PHP ( It's finaly working, I think ) BUT my httpd.conf file is 5 lines long, and they are all comments
[10:30] <AlexC> Is there .... like a default I could copy and use?
[10:30] <Paladine> alex, you using apache2?
[10:30] <AlexC> Paladine, Yes
[10:31] <dredhammer> so who has been using the compiz and xgl thing and how is it?
[10:31] <lophyte> dredhammer: its neat.. but it breaks things.
[10:31] <Paladine> AlexC, Apache2 is modular, there are a bunch of module files you put the old .conf stuff in
[10:31] <stefg> don't mind... the whole thing is about having applications in disk-images or packages (klik-style) and your documents in a dbfs... it's a good sketch, but not a finished concept yet
[10:31] <Jowi> Hhhhh: yep. it will run fine. you might want to switch to a lighter windowmanager than gnome though.
[10:31] <AlexC> Paladine, I don't understand, sorry
[10:31] <dredhammer> i'm too afraid to try it yet
[10:32] <Paladine> ok you see the directory where the httpd.conf file is?
[10:32] <Paladine> there are a bunch of other directories
[10:32] <Paladine> like ports
[10:32] <dredhammer> have to warch my vids on the oc but it looks like if they can get it to work
[10:32] <Paladine> virtual
[10:32] <Paladine> etc
[10:32] <dredhammer> before jan 07
[10:32] <AlexC> Paladine, /etc/ apache2 yes?
[10:32] <Paladine> in each of those directories are files
[10:32] <Paladine> those files replace the old httpd.conf
[10:32] <dredhammer> vista won't have the eye candy to baost about anymore
[10:32] <dredhammer> which is all it has going for it
[10:32] <AlexC> Paladine, all of them, like join together to make 1?
[10:33] <dli> Hhhhh, gnome should run :) still try fluxbox though
[10:33] <dredhammer> lol
[10:33] <AlexC> Paladine, I have no virtual,
[10:33] <WooD> Any as been able to install iPaq on UBUNTU ?
[10:33] <Paladine> AlexC, yes read theinstalltion and configuration guide on apache's website
[10:33] <johan_> I have to problems with dapper that I didn't have with 5.10, 1. With 5.10, all my open applications would restore when I logged out/in, now they dont and 2. no matter how many times I change login screen-theme, it always reverts back to default. Why?
[10:33] <Paladine> ls
[10:33] <Paladine> oops wrong terminal
[10:33] <johan_> *two
[10:34] <bobk> looking for make in breezy ..  have gcc... what pkg do i install?  reading the various FAQs and docs was no help. Strange to me that make is not part of a core package.
[10:34] <Paladine> Alex, you should have mods-available, mods-enabled, sites-available, sites-enabled folders?
[10:34] <Paladine> or directories
[10:34] <AlexC> Paladine, Ahhh this is werid. I have just found apache2.conf which looks good, it's like 1000 lines,
[10:34] <AlexC> Paladine, Yes I do
[10:34] <AlexC> Paladine, Shall I replaec httpd.conf with apache2.conf ?
[10:34] <Paladine> Alex, you really must read the configuration instructions on apache's website, apache2 is configured very differently to apache1.3
[10:35] <AlexC> Paladine, I see, I shall have a look now
[10:35] <johan_> I have two problems with dapper that I didn't have with 5.10, 1. With 5.10, all my open applications would restore when I logged out/in, now they dont and 2. no matter how many times I change login screen-theme, it always reverts back to default. Why?
[10:35] <Intelligi> This is so frustrating. How in the world could my wireless possibly work just fine yesterday, but not today?
[10:35] <baconbacon> !repeat
[10:35] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[10:35] <meshyf> Can anybody tell me how I can enable higher screen resolutions?
[10:35] <dredhammer> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000G62IDU/ref=ord_1cl_log_ydet/104-5399294-7191910?n=229534 for those who want a pressed dvd of dapper
[10:35] <stefg> !fixres
[10:35] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:36] <meshyf> !resolution
[10:36] <dredhammer> just 9.95
[10:36] <baconbacon> johan_: for the restore thing, system -> preferences -> session, there is an option for it
[10:36] <paladinhugo> can anyone help me moving /home through partitions?
[10:37] <Paladine> john, whats logout?
[10:37] <Paladine> johan even
[10:37] <johan_> baconbacon: aah. I looked there, but I didn't find that obvious option.
[10:37] <stefg> paladinhugo: shouldn't be too hard
[10:37] <johan_> Paladine: what do you mean?
[10:37] <bobk> paladinhugo - what do u want to do?
[10:37] <AlexC> Paladine, how do I know if I haev apache2 or 2.2
[10:37] <Paladine> johan, you said when you logout and log back in
[10:38] <paladinhugo> I have /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2
[10:38] <Paladine> AlexC, it shouldn't matter, but if you installed it from apt-get or synaptic, I presume it will be themost recent one
[10:38] <paladinhugo> . /home is on /dev/hda2
[10:38] <AlexC> Paladine, true true
[10:38] <paladinhugo> I want to move /home into /dev/hda1
[10:38] <paladinhugo> that's where / is mounted
[10:38] <meshyf> Can anybody help me enable larger screen resolutions? My video card can go higher then this but for somereason there isn't anything higher then 1024 x768
[10:39] <johan_> Paladine: yes, then the applications that I had opened when I logged out used to restore back when I logged in, with dapper it didn't (as default)
[10:39] <djk_> where can i disable the restore session mode in kde?
[10:39] <bobk> paladinhugo: k - have u checked that u have enough space on hda1?
[10:39] <Paladine> johan, I cannot compute logout... does that mean you actually turn off your system?
[10:39] <paladinhugo> yes
[10:39] <paladinhugo> I have
[10:39] <ardchoille> paladinhugo: are you sure /dev/hda1 is usable? on my system /dev/hda1 is / and /dev/hda2 is an extended partition containing /dev/hda5 (linux swap)
[10:39] <baconbacon> johan_: Automatically save changes to session, that is
[10:40] <johan_> baconbacon: yes, I found it
[10:40] <stefg> paladinhugo: The best way to do this is a.) either in recovery (single) mode, but you don't have net access ther (no #ubuntu to help you) or use a Live CD
[10:40] <paladinhugo> I have / mounted on /dev/hda1, /home mounted on /dev/hda2 and linux-swap on /dev/hda3
[10:40] <meshyf> !patience
[10:40] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.
[10:41] <ardchoille> paladinhugo: oh, ok. I just didn't want you to have probs later
[10:41] <paladinhugo> I have to free /dev/hda2 to install windows temporarly
[10:41] <stefg> paladinhugo: i understood this... you can't move the home dir ot the logged in user... use a Live-CD and come back from there
[10:41] <paladinhugo> and want to move /home into the main partition
[10:41] <paladinhugo> ok
[10:41] <Intelligi> I guess I'm glad I made a backup of windows, because I can't get any support for the wireless.
[10:41] <paladinhugo> thank you
[10:41] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone give me advice about a mouse that won't click half the time?
[10:41] <paladinhugo> brb
[10:42] <eobanb> monomaniacpat, try a different mouse?
[10:42] <Hhhhh> monomaniacpat, buy another one?
[10:42] <coz_> chahibi (n=chahibi@81.192.223.147) has left #ubuntuforums
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[10:42] <jhutchins> monomaniacpat: Yeah, that's likely hardware.
[10:42] <eobanb> coz_, three? lol
[10:42] <monomaniacpat> yeah, maybe not. This mouse set me back 50 with the kbd
[10:42] <coz_> eobanb, testing
[10:42] <coz_> eobanb, you have any s uggestions
[10:43] <jhutchins> monomaniacpat: It's most likely a hardware problem.  USB?
[10:43] <eobanb> monomaniacpat, dont pay 50 quid for a mouse next time??
[10:43] <monomaniacpat> Everything else works fine - just the mouse doesn't work. Yes, USB
[10:43] <monomaniacpat> !attitude
[10:43] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.
[10:43] <monomaniacpat> lol
[10:44] <eobanb> monomaniacpat, if you try the same mouse with another computer and it still doesnt work, i can basically promise you, it's the mouse, not software at fault
[10:44] <Paladine> 50 quid for a mouse?
[10:44] <Paladine> my wireless keyboard and mouse cost me 12 quid
[10:45] <jhutchins> About the only software reason to miss a mouse click sometimes is if the processor is completely overwhelmed.
[10:45] <Hhhhh> WTF is a quid?
[10:45] <dredhammer> is 12 quid plenty?
[10:45] <monomaniacpat> Look it's bought now, so please stop criticising my purchases
[10:45] <eobanb> Hhhhh, a pound..
[10:45] <ardchoille> Hhhhh: pound
[10:45] <Jowi> Hhhhh: like a squid but more flexible
[10:45] <Paladine> I wasn't criticising your purchase, I was criticising the price
[10:46] <ardchoille> monomaniacpat: do you have another computer you can test that mouse on?
[10:46] <monomaniacpat> I believe it works fine in windows
[10:47] <eobanb> monomaniacpat, maybe you should double-check
[10:47] <Paladine> no offense intended but is it a microsoft mouse?
[10:47] <Paladine> it could be it simply isn't supported in linux
[10:47] <djk_> anyone familiar with printing problems?
[10:47] <eobanb> Paladine, i highly doubt that.
[10:47] <Paladine> like all 3 of my webcams for example
[10:47] <eobanb> Paladine, a webcam is nothing like a mouse.
[10:48] <Paladine> eobanb, if it was a 50 quid mouse it probably has a bunch of funky stuff in it
[10:48] <monomaniacpat> yes, it is microsoft. They are the best ones for RSI I could find and I did check the forums for compatability
[10:48] <neotard> think I found the perfect theme for gnome :D  silicon + outcrop + flat-blue
[10:48] <Paladine> funky usb devices and linux don't play well together in my experience
[10:48] <ardchoille> monomaniacpat: the best thing to do right now is to unplug it and test it on another computer, that will help narrow down the problem
[10:48] <eobanb> Paladine, his problem is that clicking sometimes doesnt work, not that it doesnt work at all
[10:48] <xnull-> hey how do I install tahoma fonts ?
[10:49] <darksteel> hello
[10:49] <eobanb> welcome, darksteel
[10:49] <ardchoille> darksteel: hi
[10:49] <Jowi> monomaniacpat: you can even try to test it in another usb port
[10:49] <paladinhugo> back
[10:50] <darksteel> i search a command for delet libs who are not use ?
[10:50] <djk_> how do i restart cups?
[10:50] <judah> djk_: sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart
[10:50] <darksteel> (i'm french and mi english is not good  ) :-)
[10:50] <Paladine> djk, might be /etc/init.d/cupsys
[10:51] <djk_> thanks
[10:51] <Paladine> yeah what judah said
[10:51] <judah> Paladine: it is.
[10:51] <johan_> now I've installed a different gtk2 theme which works in most applications but not all, for example not synaptic. Why is that?
[10:51] <eobanb> !fr
[10:51] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:51] <Jowi> darksteel: si vous voulez, #ubuntu-fr est en francais
[10:51] <paladinhugo> how can I move now my /home to the main partition
[10:52] <ardchoille> I hope monomaniacpat didn't shutdown just to unplug a mouse
[10:52] <darksteel> they don't know me command
[10:52] <eobanb> darksteel, what's the problem
[10:52] <darksteel> i search a command for delet libs who are not use ?
[10:52] <stefg> paladinhugo: are you on a Live-CD now?
[10:52] <eobanb> what libs?
[10:53] <darksteel> libs what is not use
[10:53] <djk_> what shall i do if all printing jobs are queued and the printer isn't busy?
[10:53] <eobanb> why?
[10:53] <eobanb> darksteel,
[10:53] <paladinhugo> yes
[10:53] <Ademan> i just learned about a program called listen  http://listengnome.free.fr/  it doesnt happen to be in the repositories does it?
[10:53] <stefg> then open a terminal and 'sudo -s'
[10:54] <eobanb> Ademan, dont think so.
[10:54] <paladinhugo> done
[10:54] <TokenBad> ok I just tried to compile a program...and did ./configure..and it did its thing...then tried make...and it says there is no make commands
[10:54] <darksteel> i search a command for del orphan libs
[10:54] <pvd2006> Anyone know any good guides to getting good/clear looking fonts on Ubuntu?
[10:54] <eobanb> TokenBad, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:54] <johan_> !patience
[10:54] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.
[10:54] <Ademan> i've been using rhythmbox for a while, just tried amarok and didn't like it, so i figured i'd try this out
[10:54] <stefg> paladinhugo: mount /dev/hda2 /mnt
[10:54] <pvd2006> Not yet on the desktop, but in other programs as well
[10:54] <pvd2006> just on*
[10:54] <paladinhugo> done
[10:55] <eobanb> Ademan, try Banshee
[10:55] <dj-toonz> Ademan u can get Listern using Automatix
[10:55] <funkmaster> does any1 know where i can get scanmodem.gz?
[10:55] <Jowi> TokenBad: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:55] <Ademan> eobanb: alright i'll try it out
[10:55] <TokenBad> thanks
[10:55] <TokenBad> trying it now
[10:55] <stefg> paladinhugo: mkdir /media/hda1
[10:55] <Ademan> dj-toonz: i'm not familiar with Automatix
[10:55] <paladinhugo> done
[10:55] <Paladine> anyone know how to fix locale not supported bu Xlib?
[10:55] <stefg> mount /dev/hda1 /media/hda1
[10:55] <Paladine> s/bu/by
[10:56] <eobanb> dj-toonz, we don't recommend using automatix because then it breaks stuff and people come back asking us for help with the stuff it breaks.
[10:56] <darksteel> it's good
[10:56] <paladinhugo> done
[10:56] <darksteel> good bye
[10:58] <stefg> paladinhugo: nautilus --no-desktop (this will start the filemanager. Copy the contents of /mnt to /home in /media/hda1, make sure to [ctrl-h]  first to get the hidden files as well )
[10:58] <yanis> how do I mount a samba resource?
[10:59] <mbirkis> i am missing /usr/share/xmodmap directory, what do i need to install to get it back?
[10:59] <TokenBad> ok ran make...but now it gives me a warning...
[10:59] <Jowi> TokenBad: what are you compiling?
[10:59] <TokenBad> cgimail for a friend
[10:59] <paladinhugo> copying
[10:59] <ardchoille> TokenBad: warnings can be ignored, it's the errors that need to be addressed.
[11:00] <Timir> Uhhhh, question
[11:00] <paladinhugo> the next time I boot ubuntu, /home will be in /dev/hda1?
[11:00] <stefg> not yet
[11:00] <liquiem> i have a wired problem. after testing xgl (in know, testing and stuff) i want to re-open my firefox, but this time. all i see a copy of the background with the g-w-d. i switched back to Xorg, still the same issue. any ideas?
[11:00] <TokenBad> ardchoille, but from what read it didn't make what it was supposed to make
[11:00] <Jowi> TokenBad: never heard of. can you put the error in pastebin?
[11:00] <Jowi> !tell TokenBad about pastebin
[11:00] <paladinhugo> it will take about 10 min to copy all the files
[11:00] <Timir> If a card is PCI sized, but instead of having the one gap in the connector thing, it has two, one at the front and at the back, but fits into PCI, is it still PCI?
[11:00] <stefg> now close nautilus, and gedit /etc/fstab from the root shell
[11:01] <cougem> heya
[11:01] <SonicChao_> !xgl
[11:01] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:02] <TokenBad> Jowi, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16868
[11:02] <SonicChao_> liquiem, what's a g-w-d?
[11:02] <liquiem> gnome-window-decorator
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like to copy a directory.  how would i do that?
[11:02] <liquiem> decorations
[11:02] <ToHellWithGA> *in the terminal, of course
[11:03] <paladinhugo> stefg: do I must wait until it finishes copying for me to edit /etc/fstab?
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> i'd like /path1/tree1/directory copied to /path2/tree2/directory without having to name the directory the second time.  is that possible?
[11:03] <Jowi> TokenBad: it's only a warning. you can probably do a "sudo checkinstall" or "sudo make install" without problems.
[11:03] <stefg> paladinhugo: yes
[11:03] <ardchoille> ToHellWithGA: cp -R /dir1 /path/to/target
[11:03] <ToHellWithGA> thanks ardchoille
[11:03] <ardchoille> yq
[11:03] <ardchoille> yw
[11:03] <meshyf> !compile
[11:03] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[11:04] <Jowi> !checkinstall
[11:04] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[11:04] <TokenBad> Jowi, it will not let me do make install...
[11:04] <yggdrasil> hey jowi wasup
[11:04] <Paladine> you done apt-get install build-essential
[11:04] <ardchoille> TokenBad: ned sudo to make install
[11:05] <ardchoille> *ned
[11:05] <ardchoille> *need
[11:05] <ardchoille> jeebus
[11:05] <Jowi> hiya yggdrasil :)
[11:05] <Paladine> ardchoille, you stole my keyboard when I wasn't looking?
[11:05] <Jowi> yggdrasil: did the e17 packages work for you?
[11:05] <yggdrasil> that e17 didnt work out
[11:05] <yggdrasil> haha
[11:05] <ardchoille> Paladine: it appears so ;)
[11:06] <yggdrasil> i was kinda bummed.
[11:06] <ardchoille> Paladine: I don't think it's the keyboard on my end, I think it's PEBKAC
[11:06] <Jowi> yggdrasil: ah, crap. after all I did. typical. need to learn how to build real .debs correctly one of these days....
[11:06] <yggdrasil> but ive learned to like gnome for the most part its pretty robust and fairly light.
[11:06] <excel> greetings
[11:07] <Paladine> ardchoille, I think echelon is controlling my input devices...
[11:07] <ardchoille> :)
[11:07] <excel> my openoffice word processor is not doing autoformat, even though i've activated it
[11:08] <Lars_G> Is there a tutorial on fake packages for lazy people?
[11:08] <stefg> paladinhugo: all it takes after you've finished copying is editing /media/hda1/etc/fstab and  finding the line with 'hda 2 /home' in it and delete that. save, reboot the computer and check if everythin is well
[11:08] <Lars_G> I am compiling alsa 1.0.11 for my Dapper and I don't want the lib/tools/util beign overwritten
[11:08] <excel> it is quite strange because i have not had this problem with other distributions
[11:08] <Lars_G> by a deb update that is
[11:08] <Jowi> yggdrasil: just a tip if you have the energy, the instructions at www.get-e.org are not that hard to follow (just compile the stuff in the same order that you download them from cvs and it should be ok).
[11:09] <yggdrasil> hmmmm
[11:09] <Lars_G> yggdrasil: Your nick rings a bell.... it was a mythical creature?
[11:09] <yggdrasil> ok maybe one of these days im involved with the development of new ardour and am compiling alot of that
[11:09] <yggdrasil> its a mythical tree
[11:09] <Lars_G> ah the tree. yes
[11:09] <paladinhugo> stefg: thank you a lot.. I can take it from here
[11:10] <yggdrasil> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yggdrasil
[11:10] <stefg> good... it's diiner time for me anyway :-)
[11:10] <Lars_G> Yes the norse tree. right?
[11:10] <meshyf> Is anyone else having a  hard tiem connected to repositories?
[11:10] <yggdrasil> yes indeed
[11:10] <Lars_G> part of Astratu mythology afaik
[11:10] <meshyf> connecting*
[11:10] <paladinhugo> have a nice dinner then
[11:10] <Lars_G> or was it asatru? I always mix the spelling
[11:10] <yggdrasil> hmm... orse could be some other stuff as weel..
[11:10] <yggdrasil> check this wik
[11:10] <yggdrasil> ;)
[11:10] <orcdestroyer> well... how can I auto executed my pppoe-start after run my kernel ?
[11:12] <orcdestroyer> somebody?
[11:13] <Lars_G> sigh I guess I'll have to find the maintainer for alsa-tools
[11:13] <yggdrasil> orcdestroyer symlink it from /etc/rc2.d ?
[11:14] <orcdestroyer> yggdrasil symlink, what you mean?
[11:14] <Paladine> orc (I could be wrong on this but someone will correct me if I am) just put a script in /etc/init.d directory
[11:14] <Lars_G> I'd rather he use rcconf yggdrasil
[11:14] <xnull-> !multivers
[11:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about multivers
[11:14] <xnull-> ?
[11:14] <Lars_G> it'll take care of proper load order
[11:14] <yggdrasil> oh yea i dont know the best mine is ham handed.
[11:14] <judah> Paladine: then you have to sym link it to the run level you want it to start in.
[11:14] <xnull-> how do I enable muitivers?
[11:14] <Paladine> judah ahh
[11:14] <judah> Paladine: /etc/rc2.d for run level two.
[11:14] <ardchoille> !repos > xnull-
[11:14] <orcdestroyer> hum
[11:14] <meshyf> I'm trying to download zsnes using synaptic, but I get this weird error. Can anybody please help me?
[11:14] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: You need to enable it in the init sequence, there are maaany ways to do this
[11:15] <Paladine> see I learnt something new :)
[11:15] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: Basically I'd suggest using a gui helper. to enable it.
[11:15] <judah> Paladine: i'm assuming that you're trying to get something to start on boot?
[11:15] <Paladine> judah, not me, but yeah
[11:15] <Lars_G> o.O
[11:15] <judah> default run level is configured in /etc/inittab
[11:15] <DaveyJ> is there a way to reassign the keys that switch desktops?
[11:15] <judah> most default run levels are 2
[11:15] <DaveyJ> ctrl+alt+arrow
[11:15] <Lars_G> yggdrasil, judah and Paladine.... this site is turning fully mystical
[11:15] <reXin> does anybody know of any solid wired and wireless combo routers... about 8 to 10 ports?
[11:15] <yggdrasil> ahah
[11:15] <Paladine> Lars, hehehe
[11:16] <judah> do an ls -las /etc/rc2.d
[11:16] <auk> i have a brand new 200GB hard drive
[11:16] <Paladine> judah, you seem pretty competent, can you help me fix my "Locale is not supported by Xlib" issue?
[11:16] <ardchoille> auk: nice :)
[11:16] <meshyf> I'm trying to download zsnes using synaptic, but I get this weird error. Can anybody please help me? I think its a connection problem. :O
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: if you're patient. i'm actually working on something right now that should take more attention than this channel ;)
[11:17] <auk> so...i'm partitioning, and i try to allocate some space; it tells me i need to create a disklabel
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: but i get distracted by it sometimes.
[11:17] <Paladine> judah, Iam patient :)
[11:17] <judah> Paladine: do you have a pastebin of your error?
[11:18] <auk> what type of disklabel do i want (msdos, amiga, bsd, ..., sun, loop, etc)?
[11:18] <Paladine> judah, I will have in just a few seconds
[11:18] <auk> ardchoille: birthday present :)
[11:18] <Paladine> soon as pastebin wakes up
[11:18] <ardchoille> auk: lucky
[11:18] <ardchoille> !pastebin
[11:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:18] <orcdestroyer> how can I execute this command at terminal tail -f arquivo | fmt -w $COLUMNS -s
[11:19] <Lars_G> auk: For linux, create a linux disklabel, 0x83 if I remember correctly (check first)
[11:19] <Paladine> judah, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16870
[11:19] <Paladine> I will give you more details when you finish what you doing, cos it is quit involved
[11:19] <ardchoille> orcdestroyer: type it in ;)
[11:19] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, replace the variable $COLUMNS
[11:20] <s1> can I use a personal cronrc-file in ubuntu?
[11:20] <orcdestroyer> arapehl but what I really need is always execute
[11:20] <orcdestroyer> for my eterm
[11:20] <judah> Paladine: /j #judah-paladine
[11:20] <auk> Lars_G: i looked for something saying linux, or ext2 or something, but i couldn't find any... 0x83 is not on there, nor is anything looking remotely like '0x83'
[11:21] <s1> sorry, crontab
[11:21] <auk> Lars_G, i can list the options if you like
[11:21] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, man eterm, have a look at -e
[11:21] <orcdestroyer> automatically arapehl
[11:21] <ardchoille> auk: what about things like  ext2, ext3, reiserfs ?
[11:21] <Lars_G> auk: Then it's a descriptive label? or it's a list of entries? if it's a list, there should be two pages of it, change to the second page with space if I remember correctly
[11:21] <auk> nope :(
[11:21] <orcdestroyer> how can I execute this command automatically at terminal ?? tail -f arquivo | fmt -w $COLUMNS -s
[11:21] <Lars_G> auk: COpy and paste it all on a pastebin. all of it
[11:22] <ardchoille> orcdestroyer: liquiem already answered you
[11:22] <orcdestroyer> ardchoille but I don't know what to do
[11:22] <auk> the options are: msdos, amiga, bsd, dvh, gpt, mac, pc98, sun, loop
[11:22] <cydrive> is there a way to turn my desktop ubuntu into a webserver that runs in the background? im also connecte dthrough a wireless router is this possible?
[11:22] <fourat> my MIC is not working ! how to get it on
[11:22] <liquiem> auk, you want msdos
[11:23] <auk> liquiem: ok, thanks
[11:23] <orcdestroyer> liquiem can you explain more to me?
[11:23] <orcdestroyer> pls
[11:23] <auk> cydrive: install apache?
[11:23] <Lars_G> Ahhhh that must be partition table format, I guess
[11:23] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, type in man eterm, press enter, type in /-e, press enter
[11:24] <cydrive> no im not sure exactly what to do
[11:24] <meshyf> Is anyone else having trouble applying from Synaptic Package Manager?
[11:24] <Lars_G> meshyf: not me
[11:24] <meshyf> Lars_G: For some reason I am getting this error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16871
[11:25] <orcdestroyer> oh
[11:25] <DaveyJ> is there a way to reassign the keys that switch desktops? (default: ctrl+alt+arrow)
[11:25] <orcdestroyer> liquiem let me see
[11:25] <Jowi> fourat: right click on the volume icon and there should be a properties entry there. click capture and turn the mic volume to max. that should do it
[11:25] <joliet> hello
[11:26] <Lars_G> o.O localhost?
[11:26] <ardchoille> Lars_G: hehe, you caught that too, eh?
[11:26] <joliet> can you help me with imq, htb, esfq patches for new kernel 2.6.17 ?
[11:26] <Lars_G> meshyf: You're trying to pull from a locally (your machine) setup http based server??
[11:26] <joliet> i found several patches ut they are not up to date
[11:26] <Jowi> cydrive: apache2 is a very popular webserver and it runs in the background by default (most servers do).
[11:26] <Jowi> !apache
[11:26] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:26] <liquiem> meshyf, paste your /etc/hosts
[11:27] <meshyf> Ilquiem: How do I find that?
[11:27] <liquiem> meshyf, and check if you have something like http-proxy env-variable
[11:27] <Lars_G> ardchoille: The thing is, if he just mistyped a deb line to localhost there should be no response from the local server with a packages list, to then fail at pulling the pkg....
[11:27] <Lars_G> liquiem: Ah good call
[11:27] <liquiem> meshyf, nano -w /etc/hosts maybe
[11:27] <Lars_G> liquiem: Sounds more like an http proxy error... but.
[11:27] <joliet> or tell me if that patches are already in new kernel ... i couldn't find that info, please
[11:27] <knoppix__> i have problems with cups 1.2, can someone help me?
[11:28] <ardchoille> Lars_G: It sounds like a proxy prob to me
[11:28] <liquiem> Lars_G, yeah, but i guess he has no idea what a proxy is
[11:28] <meshyf> I know what a proxy is but I am new to unbuntu and am having a hard time navagating it :P
[11:28] <meshyf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16871
[11:28] <Lars_G> Hahaha, long live cynism liquiem
[11:28] <liquiem> so i guess he installed something that sets the env-var or i dont know
[11:28] <meshyf> er ignore that paste
[11:29] <orcdestroyer> liquiem thx falla
[11:29] <Jowi> knoppix__: you will probably get more answers if you say exacltly what's wrong rather than just say that you need help (just a tip)
[11:29] <orcdestroyer> did you know how see the tty of my mouse?
[11:29] <mbirkis> how do i change the direction my delete key deletes?
[11:29] <meshyf> liquiem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16874
[11:29] <liquiem> orcdestroyer, probably /dev/mouse
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> okay
[11:30] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: See tty or use mouse in text mode?
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> see tty
[11:30] <knoppix__> when i print a test page, than i get: "localhost - - [01/Jul/2006:05:13:36 +0200]  "POST /printers/hplj4 HTTP/1.1" 200 225622 Print-Job client-error-document-format-not-supported"
[11:30] <ardchoille> meshyf: no ip?
[11:30] <meshyf> ardchoille: That's what nano -w /etc/hosts showed me.
[11:30] <orcdestroyer> lars-ut-away see tty
[11:31] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G see tty
[11:31] <Jowi> mbirkis: the keys are in /home/username/.keys directory. so "cd ~/.keys" will get you there.
[11:31] <knoppix__> i have a hp laserjet 4 on the parallel port
[11:31] <Lars_G> meshyf: I guess you either have a (wrongly) set up proxy_http in apt/synaptic/enviroment or an iptables based transparent proxy setup
[11:31] <dagrump_> hello all i have broken x & need some help
[11:31] <meshyf> Lars_G: I think its the formor rather then the ladder
[11:31] <Lars_G> meshyf: Anyhow, if i worked before it might work again just the packages have changed. try to tell synaptic to do an update (update) and then try again.
[11:31] <mbirkis> Jowi: they aren
[11:32] <meshyf> lars_G: ok
[11:32] <Lars_G> oh no, sorry it's a connect error, the update should fail
[11:32] <mbirkis> Jowi: they aren,t
[11:32] <Lars_G> not that there is anything wrong in trying anyhow
[11:32] <knoppix__> i have a hp laserjet 4 on the parallel port
[11:32] <knoppix__> gnome-cups-manager says: Printing to 'hplj4' failed with error code: 1034
[11:32] <knoppix__> is the printer paused ?
[11:33] <Jowi> mbirkis: what keys are you talking about exactly. pgp or ssh or something else?
[11:33] <meshyf> Lars_G: Yeah its definitly a network error. I gotta find that anonymyser I downloaded.
[11:33] <Lars_G> meshyf: I wouldn't recommend an anonymyzer for package instalation, I doubt Ubuntu is after you via their logs, and it will delay the transfer a little, but that's me.
[11:34] <meshyf> Lars_G: It wasn't for unbuntu :p
[11:34] <mbirkis> Jowi: my keyboards delete key deletes the wrong direction...  no ssh or stuff like that
[11:34] <auk> for root partition, do i want ext2 or ext3?
[11:34] <Jowi> mbirkis: oh. totally misunderstood that one. bummer.
[11:35] <stefg> auk: you want reiser
[11:35] <mjr> auk, ext3, definitely
[11:35] <auk> stefg: pfft
[11:35] <mbirkis> Jowi: i probably wasn
[11:35] <mjr> reiser's reliability is more questionable
[11:35] <karl> anyone help with captive on dapper, installed, fstab has mount points but when I click on drives it tells me I dont have permision to mount, if i mount in term (sudo mount) when I try to ls I get nothing
[11:35] <roostishaw> what command do i use to start apache2?
[11:35] <mbirkis> Jowi: clear enough in the question
[11:36] <stefg> mjr: urban myth
[11:36] <Lars_G> mjr: It might be, but My machine used to crash a lot. And it cost me lots of data with ext3, I haven't lost a bit since I'm on reiserfs. Can be good luck, but I still feel safer
[11:36] <Lars_G> I'm only sad Reiser4 isn't still widespread enough to be easily usseable :)
[11:37] <nubsauce> hey guys, i need to change a global variable... or something. i'm trying to set up my nvidia drivers, and it's telling me i can't compile the kernel
[11:37] <liquiem> use ext3! rw support from windows ^^
[11:37] <Jowi> mbirkis: It is hard to say what might be wrong. maybe you have either 1. wrong keyboard in /etc/X11/xorg.conf 2. wrong language setting in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or 3. both. do you have any experience in altering that file?
[11:37] <Lars_G> liquiem: And that's a PLUS?
[11:37] <liquiem> karl, i wouldnt recommend captive, try ntfs-tools/ntfs-progs
[11:37] <mbirkis> Jowi: i have muckled about abit in it yes
[11:37] <mbirkis> will go see
[11:38] <liquiem> Lars_G, yep, as a gamer, well, you got the point :)
[11:38] <karl> thanks - but I need rw and I read that ntfs-tools is not a reliable way to rw
[11:38] <Lars_G> liquiem: I use Cedega for the few games I want to play, and be done. :P but that's me, lol
[11:38] <Lars_G> karl: There's a rw capable driver but it's commercial and costs money (a bit)
[11:38] <liquiem> karl, wrong, i use ntfs-tools all the time and thats working perfectly so far. even undeleting something *g*
[11:38] <nubsauce> anyone know anything about changing "cc" or something like that so i can compile my kernel?
[11:39] <Jowi> mbirkis: have a look at the Option "XkbModel" "pc10x" if the wrong number of keys are set there you might have that sort of problem. example: you have 102 key keyboard and have 105 in xorg.conf
[11:39] <_Luks> how to compile a c++ code on gcc ?
[11:39] <foxiness> after i run 'apt-get dist-upgrade' , there pop-up configure about IBAM "load the apm kernel model now ?" , i do not know what should i do here,any idea
[11:39] <Lars_G> liquiem: Wasn't there a newer userspace ntfs driver too? that was stabler?
[11:39] <roostishaw> what command do i use to start apache2?
[11:39] <Lars_G> _Luks: ask in #c++ but they'll probably tell you to read the docs in the page
[11:39] <karl> Lthanks liquiem I go retry - only need to move some stuff so I can use all my internal drives for ubuntu - no more win xp for me had it upto the top with it
[11:39] <mbirkis> Jowi: Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105" <-- i have a laptop, what should i use here?
[11:40] <liquiem> Lars_G, thats ntfstool i guess. fuse-based. i dont know anything newer, just kernel limited rw support
[11:40] <nubsauce> @luks: no, i'm getting an error that cc isnt a proper global variable or pointer or something
[11:40] <nubsauce> i forgot the term
[11:40] <Lars_G> roostishaw: "/etc/init.d/apache2 start"
[11:40] <_Luks> Lars_G: i've searched it on man pages ... but the man pages are so complex ...
[11:40] <Myrth> lol had a questions and found the answer during the time mIRC was loading :)
[11:40] <orcdestroyer> iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.1.0.0/16 tcp --deport 553 -j REJECT ... is correct?
[11:40] <Lars_G> _Luks: Sorry to say this but gcc is not an end user tool :)
[11:41] <radioaktivstorm> how do i install macromedia flash on ubuntu?
[11:41] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: --dport not --deport
[11:41] <Jowi> mbirkis: i can't say for sure. I don't have a laptop anywhere near here. try pc102, and also see that Option "XkbLayout" is set to your language ("se" for swedish, "fi" for finnish etc)
[11:41] <_Luks> Lars_G: oki 8-)
[11:41] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: and if you'll use ports, you'll need to specify protocol and load protocol settings: -p tcp -m tcp
[11:41] <Lars_G> radioaktivstorm: Killing yourself is more pleasurable than dealing with flash
[11:42] <mbirkis> Jowi: after changing i need to restart x right?
[11:42] <liquiem> radioaktivstorm, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <ardchoille> Lars_G: hahahaha
[11:42] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G thx
[11:42] <Jowi> mbirkis: normally, if you have a "windows" key and a "menu" key on your keyboard it should be 105. but then again, i can not say for sure. yes, after the change you need to restart X.
[11:42] <Jowi> mbirkis: make a backup of xorg.conf before changing it
[11:42] <mbirkis> Jowi: ok... thnx
[11:43] <Jowi> roostishaw: did the xlib error go away after your restart?
[11:44] <foxiness> "IBAM configuration" : this come after i do apt-get dist-upgrade ,any help
[11:44] <roostishaw> Jowi, unfortunatly not. but i tried 'xhost +', and that worked, so i added it to startup
[11:44] <Lars_G> radioaktivstorm: All you'll find is flash 7, 8 never came out and 9 will be LONG delayed even when the windows and mac versions were declared final last week. Anyhow, go to http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&promoid=BIOW to get the player. if I remember well it has an installer script inside the package, which you'll probably have to run with su
[11:44] <murtun> Hey all
[11:44] <meshyf> lars_G: Ok I have gotten rid of that anonomyser and set my system->network proxy to direct internet connection. I can connected to gaim etc but not the packages D:
[11:44] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G did you know how protocol I use for 553 port ?
[11:44] <murtun> My Sound is working in XMMS, but not on the system its self...
[11:45] <radioaktivstorm> hey thanks!
[11:45] <murtun> how can i set the sound card for Kubuntu??
[11:45] <Jowi> great roostishaw. might be that an update screwed it up for you. "xhost +local:" was the next thing on my suggestion list.
[11:45] <Lars_G> meshyf: Check the synaptic preferences for proxy settings
[11:45] <liquiem> meshyf, try export | grep 4001 and see if something is declared
[11:45] <murtun> Hey all, how can i set the sound card for Kubuntu??
[11:45] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: rephraze your question
[11:45] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G wich protocol I use for 553 ?
[11:46] <meshyf> lars_g: Sunaptic is set to direct internet connection.
[11:46] <finalbeta> Dapper has a volume icon in the right above corner, when you doubleclick it, something is supossed to start, but it doesn't. Anyone else has this problem? no volume control.
[11:46] <Lars_G> meshyf: Very odd. Just in case did you restart it since you removed the anonymizer?
[11:46] <meshyf> Lars_G: No I haven't
[11:46] <orcdestroyer> iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.1.0.0/16 tcp --dport 553 -j REJECT ... is correct?
[11:46] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: What are you sending over 553? It's not listed on my /etc/services
[11:46] <orcdestroyer> what protocol I use ?
[11:46] <mbirkis> Jowi: it didn't work... it is like my delete key and backspace key are mapped to the same key
[11:46] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: you seem to be using tcp
[11:46] <Lars_G> it's not completely correct
[11:47] <nubsauce> alright, i have the error message now: "make sure you have your distro's libc dev package installed and that cc is a valid compiler name"
[11:47] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer:  iptables -A FORWARD -s 10.1.0.0/16 -m tcp -p tcp --dport 553 -j DROP
[11:47] <meshyf> lars_G: I'll try to restart then I'll be back.
[11:47] <Lars_G> orcdestroyer: Try that
[11:47] <Jowi> mbirkis: try to hit "num lock" and see if that's what messing it up
[11:47] <goonies> im having problems getting compiz to start, i type gnome-window-decorator & xorg restarts =\
[11:47] <nubsauce> and then something about pointing the cc environment variable to a compiler which can make my kernel for me
[11:47] <ardchoille> mbirkis: which app is this problem in?
[11:47] <johan_> checking for X... no
[11:47] <johan_> configure: error: "You must have X installed"
[11:47] <johan_>  What do I need to download?
[11:47] <apokryphos> johan_: have you read the FAQ section on compiling?
[11:47] <mbirkis> Jowi: i don't have numlock, it is a laptop, and it is in all apps
[11:48] <karl> liquidm - thanks works, well seems to cheers
[11:48] <nubsauce> i have libc dev installed, and that's about the end of my knowledge
[11:48] <orcdestroyer> Lars_G thx a lot
[11:48] <_stev_> what command is there to check my sound? My volumes are up, but no sound
[11:48] <johan_> apokryphos: no, where is that?
[11:48] <apokryphos> johan_: /topic
[11:48] <gNk> hi
[11:48] <ardchoille> gNk: hi
[11:49] <niki> what's the console command to delete an entire directory, including any recursive directories and files?
[11:49] <liquiem> niki, rm -r /dir
[11:49] <Lars_G> niki: rm -R <dirname>
[11:49] <niki> -r or -R?
[11:49] <liquiem> try it out ^^
[11:49] <niki> good idea :D:D
[11:49] <liquiem> doesnt matter tbh
[11:49] <Lars_G> they're equivalent by now.
[11:50] <basschimp> hi guys
[11:50] <andi5> unlike ls
[11:50] <Lars_G> I am just set up from older distros, in which it was -R only ;)
[11:50] <nnk> Hey, I'm trying to remove the icons for my ntfs/fat32 partitions off my desktop without making any other changes (like unmounting them).
[11:50] <niki> sweet...thanks liquiem, Lars_G
[11:50] <Jowi> mbirkis: you absolutely have a num-lock even on a laptop. on a laptop, if the numlock is disabled (or enabled, depends on the laptop model usually), some keys on the keyboard act as a normal numerical keypad. tunring it on/off will enable/disable this feature.
[11:50] <nnk> Anyone able to help?
[11:50] <basschimp> i'm having some difficulties with compiz, could anyone help me out?
[11:50] <dibblego> !dvd
[11:50] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:50] <apokryphos> basschimp: /msg ubotu compiz
[11:50] <ardchoille> is it true that the tar command no longer needs the "-" in its options? tar xjf filename == tar -xjf filename ?
[11:50] <Lars_G> nnk: drag them to your trash can, they're just links
[11:50] <apokryphos> ardchoille: that was changed ages ago
[11:50] <Lars_G> ardchoille: tias
[11:51] <goonies> for some reason when i run gnome-window-decorator it kills my X, does anyone have any idea why?
[11:51] <ardchoille> apokryphos: oh? guess I need to get out of bed once in a while, lol
[11:51] <LiraNuna> hello
[11:51] <apokryphos> ardchoille: tar *needs* you to choose a particular option, hence the hyphen isn't necessary
[11:51] <andi5> can somebody tell ubotu to tell me about firefox java plugin for amds? no sun, only blackdown 1.4?
[11:51] <dibblego> !tell dibblego about dvd
[11:51] <liquiem> Lars_G, wouldnt pmount or something renew the icons?
[11:51] <ardchoille> apokryphos: ok, makes sense
[11:51] <apokryphos> andi5: /msg ubotu brain to search for factoids
[11:51] <Lars_G> liquiem: Hmmm... it shouldn't... afaik
[11:52] <Lars_G> liquiem: The icons are provided by the Desktop enviroment (Gnome in this case? sawfish then)
[11:52] <liquiem> Lars_G, i dont have that icons in the first place, so no idea where they're coming from
[11:52] <meshyf> Lars_G: Yeap that did the trick. I keep forgetting the need to restart.. :P
[11:52] <andi5> apokryphos: thanks
[11:52] <ardchoille> nautlus usually takes care of the desktop icons in gnome
[11:53] <Lars_G> liquiem: And they're refreshed by the Desktop enviro when the directory they refer to changes. etc. it's not pmount's job to refresh them. so once removed they shouldn't show again unless re-created by hand on the desk env
[11:53] <Lars_G> meshyf: At least we don't need to restart AS often as windows :)
[11:53] <LiraNuna> hi
[11:53] <nnk> Lars_G: no good, I get can't delete error, followed by a rec that I unmount them.
[11:53] <LiraNuna> i tried to compile Anjuta 2.0.2
[11:53] <lukaszg> nnk: Applications > System tools -> configuration editor, then apps-->nautilus-->desktop-->volumes_visible
[11:53] <LiraNuna> but then I couldn't compile it because it needs libgdl 0.6.1 or higher and libgdl 0.6.1 needs the new libc6 and that didn't lead to anything good
[11:53] <meshyf> Lars_G: I never really had to restart all that often with windows, at least after the inital install.
[11:53] <Jowi> mbirkis: if all else fail, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and chose the default options, then restart X. your keyboard should (hopefully) be set to the correct settings.
[11:53] <LiraNuna> now Anjuta won't start
[11:54] <`underOATH> what are some good movies, i'm going on vacation tomorrow and need some good movies to download for the ride
[11:54] <Lars_G> LiraNuna: At least your system starts, you're lucky, playing with libc is dangerous
[11:54] <LiraNuna> hehe
[11:54] <`underOATH> that was an amsg btw :P
[11:54] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Horribly terribly OT
[11:54] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Ah ok.
[11:54] <`underOATH> yeah :P
[11:54] <foxiness> "IBAM configuration" : this come after i do apt-get dist-upgrade ,first time i saw this
[11:55] <`underOATH> well actually Lars_G i will be dowlnoading them on my ubuntu computer :P
[11:55] <`underOATH> i run ubuntu on my laptop
[11:55] <alex_> where install programs normally? have ubuntu 5.1 gnome
[11:55] <murtun> How do i set which sound card ALSA uses?
[11:55] <Jowi> foxiness: ibam is a battery monitor for laptops
[11:55] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Which makes it more On topic, but possibly illegal since most legal software for downloading movies exists for Windows or Mac only
[11:55] <alex_> blue j wants to know the directory to install to
[11:56] <`underOATH> what about frostwire like limewire or whatever it's called
[11:56] <Lars_G> murtun: It should be detected by udev and loaded (the modules)
[11:56] <`underOATH> thats legal :P
[11:56] <Nikolas> never fear, Nikolas is here
[11:56] <Lars_G> `underOATH: more than 98% content found there is illegal to download
[11:56] <nnk> lukaszg; thanks.
[11:56] <Nikolas> Has anyone gotten anjuta 2.0.2 work properly on ubuntu?
[11:56] <kolaje> does anyone know how to fix the annoying blackbar problem for toshiba satelite laptops?
[11:56] <liquiem> murtun, alsa uses every soundcard thats supported. to be more specific, you have to use alsarc (filename should be different?)
[11:56] <auk> alex_: all over teh filesystem, normally on ewould use apt (a sofwtare package manager program)
[11:56] <`underOATH> k Lars_G: you win :(
[11:56] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Unless you're specifically on the hunt for Creative Commons or Public Domain movies.
[11:56] <lukaszg> nnk no problem
[11:56] <gdb> omg, I just checked the debian download page -- it's 14 cds...
[11:57] <foxiness> Jowi, its use apm i think dapper use acpi, and it want to do on first page of this wizrd "Load the apt kernel model now?"
[11:57] <gdb> 2 dvds!
[11:57] <auk> gdb: lol
[11:57] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Of wich (public domain) I recommend "Night of the living dead" (first edition) and "Plan 9 from outer space" both are public domain already, and I love bad B movies
[11:57] <alex_> but there is no blue j! blue j is only as a jar file
[11:57] <`underOATH> i'll check them out lars_g :)
[11:58] <Jowi> foxiness: yeah, dapper use acpi. if your laptop requires it, you can force apm to load instead (don't ask me how, i haven't tried that)
[11:58] <auk> alex_: a jar file? like, a firefox extension?
[11:58] <alex_> i dont know?
[11:58] <gdb> This is what attracts me to Ubuntu.  Not only is the philosophy behind the name a wonderful concept, but it's *one cd that just works*.
[11:58] <auk> alex_, do you have a web link to "blue j"?
[11:58] <earHertz> sekking of just works, why doesn't apt-get install ncurses just work?
[11:59] <gdb> auk: A jar file is a Java ARchive.  It's basically a tar file that contains java class files and some other information necessary for the jvm to load and run them correctly.
[11:59] <alex_> yes
[11:59] <cydrive> can someone help em setup a webserver with my ubuntu desktop
[11:59] <gdb> cydrive: $ sudo apt-get install apache2
[11:59] <Kyral> !lamp
[11:59] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[11:59] <gdb> cydrive: And that's it!
[11:59] <foxiness> Jowi, i hope i find how-to or any doc about this wizrd "IBAM configration"
[11:59] <auk> gdb, i thought it was Javascript ARchive
[11:59] <Lars_G> time to restart wish me luck
[11:59] <cydrive> i have apache 2 but how exactly do i use it and everything?
[11:59] <alex_> www.bluej.org/
[11:59] <earHertz> so, who do I type to install teh ncurses lib?
[11:59] <gdb> auk: Nah, it's the real Java deal. :-)
[12:00] <`underOATH> Does anyone know if there are ATI linux drivers for the mobility radeon series on a laptop ?
[12:00] <Jowi> foxiness: yeah, i haven't seen it before either
[12:00] <Lars_G> auk: No, JAR is a java file, which is basically a ZIP file with java classes and a desriptor
[12:00] <dibblego> JAR == Java ARchive
[12:00] <alex_> but where i have to install blue j?
[12:00] <Lars_G> auk: It's a way to encapsulate a java library/program in a single file
[12:00] <dli> earHertz, sudo apt-get install libncurses5-dev
[12:00] <andi5> earHertz: ncurses is installed by default, do you want the dev package? (e.g. for compiling a kernel)
[12:00] <earHertz> dli: thanks.
[12:00] <cydrive> how do i use apache?
[12:00] <kingruedi> does anybody here uses automatix?
[12:00] <johan_> I've gotten my playback buttons on the keyboard to get recognised in the keyboard shortcuts config, but rhytmbox still won't do anything when I press them. Why?
[12:00] <auk> ok, i stand corrected
[12:00] <gdb> auk: It's a way to make system administrators nuts. ;-)
[12:00] <dibblego> Javascript and Java are very different things - similar lexical names
[12:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> what is the lame library?  for mp3 ,  like liblame-dev or lame-dev or something like that?
[12:00] <`underOATH> kingruedi, i have used it. it works nice