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|lostbyte|icheyne, rc.localm if it does'nt have a boot script..12:08
icheyne|lostbyte|: there was nothing in the gnump3d config file12:08
icheyne:(12:08
icheyne|lostbyte|: what would a boot script look like?12:08
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|lostbyte|icheyne, there are example boot services in /etc/init.d/ .. have a look..12:08
icheyneI mean, would it have any sort of file extension? e.g. sh12:08
icheyneok thanks!12:09
icheyneI'll restart anyway12:09
icheynefingers crossed12:09
|lostbyte|icheyne, nope ! its a pure bash script.12:09
icheyne|lostbyte|: I'll let you know how it goes12:09
icheyne|lostbyte|: oh I see :o)12:09
icheynebrb12:09
|lostbyte|ok12:09
kbzaanyone using ubuntu under vmware?12:09
|lostbyte|myte, make dep12:10
|lostbyte|My8os, make clean bzImage modules12:10
|lostbyte|myte, ^12:10
mytewhatever that is12:10
mytehehe12:10
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mytewhen i did make dep it said that isnt needed anymore12:11
joseanybody know how to run kde-window-decorator successfully ...12:11
|lostbyte|myte, as a line --- > make dep;make clean bzImage modules;make modules_install install12:11
myteconfusing :)12:11
josewith xgl/compiz12:11
myteoh i see12:11
franz_After having tried kubuntu live i decided to install it on my hdd, but this started a nightmare: the installed kubuntu is nearly unusable12:11
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franz_it does not let me start a kde session as user12:11
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|lostbyte|myte, just google for what each make argument does. as i'll not be able to give you exact info..12:11
|lostbyte|franz_, Example ?12:12
|lostbyte|franz_, then how do you login ?12:12
franz_at the kde login prompt it says:12:12
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franz_your saved session type 01kde is not valid anymore12:13
|lostbyte|myte, np ;)12:13
KDEfanboyanyone know where to find a kubuntu safe .deb of the latest ntfsprogs, 1.13.1?12:13
|lostbyte|franz_, did you ever login ? before this happend ?12:13
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HawkwindKDEfanboy: apt-get install ntfstools12:14
franz_never12:14
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franz_now i-m again on live cd12:14
HawkwindKDEfanboy: ntfstools - transitional package to install ntfsprogs12:14
KDEfanboyhmm, mine is showing latest available is 1.12.112:14
franz_and i have a wrong keyboard layout...12:14
HawkwindKDEfanboy: Why do you need 1.13.1 for exactly ?12:15
franz_i can hardly use symbols12:15
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arso|lostbyte|:  same..... 2 out of the 3    mounted, teh third one didnt12:15
|lostbyte|KDEfanboy, usually debian packages are safly installed !! http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/ntfsprogs12:15
|lostbyte|arso, whats the third one ?12:16
|lostbyte|arso, hd?12:16
arso|lostbyte|:  hdd612:16
arso|lostbyte|:  the one we changed into hdd512:16
icheyne|lostbyte|: hmm didn't work12:16
|lostbyte|arso, ok add this line..12:16
arsok12:16
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|lostbyte|arso,  /dev/hdd6 /mnt/hdd6 auto defaults,users 0 012:17
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franz_|lostbyte|: a friend suggested that it may be due to the fact that i did not format my existing /home partition from my previous Mndriva12:17
icheyne|lostbyte|: thanks for the clue - I'll investigate more - I think there are other problems....12:17
yanishow do I mount a samba resource?12:17
Hawkwindfranz_: I had that problem when I installed Kubuntu a week or so ago12:17
omeowWhich package do I need to let amarok read and write mp3 tags? I can play the audio just fine. But tunepimp complains when I try to fetch the song tags from the database.12:17
|lostbyte|clue?12:17
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arso|lostbyte|:  ok added, reboot now?12:17
Hawkwindfranz_: I went back and redid the install and formatted /home and it worked fine12:17
franz_Hawkwind: can you help me_12:18
|lostbyte|arso, wait..12:18
arso|lostbyte|:  ok12:18
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|lostbyte|arso, did you change that /dev/hdd6 to /dev/hdd5 for swap one..12:18
arsoyes12:18
arsowanna see my current fstab?12:18
|lostbyte|arso, alright,, reboot12:18
franz_Hawkwind: I have about 60 Gb of data on my /home.  I simply cant format it12:18
gatekeeperprobable a good idea12:19
Hawkwindfranz_: Backups backups backups :)12:19
Hawkwindfranz_: What version of KDE were you using in Mandriva ?12:19
franz_hey, its a lot of maney in DVDs12:19
Hawkwindfranz_: Put the stuff on another partition or another computer all together.12:19
franz_Hawkwind: 3.412:19
|lostbyte|franz_, ok ! do one thing..12:20
Hawkwindfranz_: That's probably the problem.  The config files aren't compatible.  I found that out the hard way which is why I just redid the installer12:20
|lostbyte|franz_, mv .kde .kde_bk12:20
franz_Hawkwind: I would, if i could have another hdd... but i dont12:20
|lostbyte|franz_, and loging again..12:20
HawkwindI even tried moving ~/.kde to ~/.kde-old and it still didn't help12:20
_rince_roe12:21
Hawkwindfranz_: This is why I keep nothing in /home except for config files12:21
|lostbyte|franz_, are you able to loging in console mode ?12:21
Hawkwindfranz_: Though I have over 650GB of space on this box and I have 11 partitions12:21
franz_|lostbyte|: yes12:21
|lostbyte|franz_, did you try startx from there..12:21
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franz_yea |lostbyte|  It did not start for user but it did for root12:22
franz_with lots of problems anyway12:22
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|lostbyte|franz_, try from user.12:22
|lostbyte|do startx12:22
Hawkwindfranz_: Did you move your ~/.kde directory ?12:22
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franz_Hawkwind: no!  well, that must be the reason!12:23
arso|lostbyte|:  it worked :D, theyre all booted now12:23
|lostbyte|arso, Cool !12:23
Hawkwindfranz_: You can try it.  It did NOT work for me though12:23
arso|lostbyte|:  i am gonna go to windows now to delete a ntfs partition and thn create ext3 here,12:23
arso|lostbyte|:  to make it boot, just ad another line with its deetails12:23
|lostbyte|arso, which partition hd?12:24
arso|lostbyte|:  still gonna create it12:24
|lostbyte|arso, ok !12:24
|lostbyte|arso, best of luck..12:24
franz_ok, |lostbyte| and Hawkwind > I will try moving .kde and will let you know12:24
arsoi'll just see wat its called and make a line right? THANX :D =)12:24
|lostbyte|ok12:24
arsobye12:25
|lostbyte|arso, yes.. i guess you got the basic idea..12:25
|lostbyte|arso, tc, bye.12:25
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|lostbyte|arso, i just cant belive you spent the whole day today mounting..12:26
Hawkwind|lostbyte|: Literally, the whole day12:26
HawkwindHeh12:26
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, lolz.12:26
arso|lostbyte|:  thats bad?12:26
|lostbyte|arso, its a 2 min job. actually.12:26
Hawkwind2 minutes if you type slow12:27
franz_hey, which file managers are available in kubuntu live?  I-m used to krusader on KDE and Midnight Commander from console....12:27
|lostbyte|:)12:27
arso|lostbyte|:  no, i had to free up partitions by shifting data around, and then come back linux n create other partitions12:27
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|lostbyte|ok..12:27
arso|lostbyte|:  were talking 200gb with ide :012:27
|lostbyte|woo.12:27
arso|lostbyte|:  and i suk with linux :P12:27
|lostbyte|arso, No you dont. You learned how to use kate how to edit and how to mount..12:28
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skb0Has someone managed to get "lightspeed" system startup with Ubuntu ?12:28
arso|lostbyte|:  cool, i hope i remember most of it, wat reference  do u use for commands?12:28
|lostbyte|arso, you simply get used to them..12:29
arsoi see12:29
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arsoso for mounting, its just the editing of fstab?12:30
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|lostbyte|arso, yes, thats the file thats called from boot.12:30
franz_hey, which file managers are available in kubuntu live (besides konqueror)?  I-m used to krusader on KDE and Midnight Commander from console....12:30
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robnot much I'd say12:30
|lostbyte|franz_, konqueror is the best there is.12:30
robyou'd need to install it12:30
arso|lostbyte|:  its getting late, good night, thanx for all the help12:31
|lostbyte|arso, Ya, chaoo.12:31
robI'm packaging the dolphin file manager for universe, might be want your after?12:31
franz_may be |lostbyte|, but i-m not used to it....12:31
|lostbyte|franz_, its similar to other File managers, but has advance features. and greater protocole support.12:32
robfranz_, http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/12:32
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robkubuntu package on the website12:33
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franz_ok ok, i was not criticizing konqueror... simply I do not know it well as other file managers...12:33
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VieLGuS-KuTaS!multiverse12:33
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:33
|lostbyte|franz_, its even greater as a webbrowser.12:34
Fiya_Werkinarso: you can also man a lot of files, like in a console, man fstab12:34
|lostbyte|all in one you see :P12:35
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Fiya_Werkinso if you remember even a filename but not necessairly what to do with it, try man12:35
arsoFiya_Werkin:  sorry wat?12:36
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, so you are creating packages for ubuntu now ?12:36
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Hawkwind|lostbyte|: Learning to yes.  I did xchat-2.6.4 but someone else did it as well and it got added to Edgy already12:36
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, nice.12:37
franz_thanks for your help ppl   bye for now12:37
|lostbyte|Hawkwind, what will happen to sos now ?12:37
Hawkwind|lostbyte|: Nothing.  http://SeerOfSouls.com/ will remain the same.  I'll build stuff for it once Mandriva 2007 comes out, plus I'm hoping to host the Ubuntu packages I build there as well12:37
|lostbyte|cool !12:38
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|lostbyte|Hawkwind, i really appreciate the work you do.. :)12:38
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|lostbyte|TIme to go to bed..12:38
scottyHi. On my desktop, I'm partitioning as we speak. How long do the partitions usually take?12:38
Hawkwind|lostbyte|: Thank you very much.  That means a lot to me :)12:38
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|lostbyte|Goodnight Everyone..12:39
scottyIt's been like 8-9 minutes12:39
Hawkwind|lostbyte|: Sleep well man12:39
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|lostbyte|Hawkwind, you too.. tc12:39
|lostbyte|Bye12:39
ErtainFor some strange reason, my screensaver doesn't start after five minutes (the time I set it to).  I have kscreensaver, extra screensavers, plus xscreensaver installed.12:39
scottyDoes anyone know how long a partition usually takes???12:39
Hawkwindscotty: How long it takes to what ?12:40
slow-motionn812:40
scottyUntil the partition finishes12:40
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Hawkwindscotty: Umm, are you letting it do it automatically you mean ?12:40
scottyyeah12:40
Hawkwindscotty: Ahhh no idea.  I prefer to do it manually so I know what the system is doing.  I don't trust *automatic* things12:41
scottyok12:41
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scottyI have a friend that said the partitioner for Kubuntu is horribly unreliable. That it trashes the drive 1/3 of the time. Is this true?12:55
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roadrunner_Yes12:55
roadrunner_It did for me12:55
roadrunner_It only finally worked properly whenever I deleted my windows partition completely and then installed12:55
roadrunner_then, after Kubuntu was installed, I used the windows XP partitioner and reinstalled windows12:56
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Raven301It's work for me on 3 installs12:56
scottyah12:56
scottyI'm very nervous to install now. :S12:56
scottyMaybe I'll just stick with live CD :/12:56
JohnFluxIt worked fine for me12:56
JohnFluxfwiw12:56
scottyMy father would kill me if I trashed the drive.12:56
Raven301I had win xp on the three two ... didn't delete12:57
JohnFluxroadrunner_: but it didn't delete your windows partition or anything?12:57
zorglu1scotty: install when you are confortable with it12:57
Raven301s/two/too12:57
JohnFluxscotty: if you like, you could use partion magic to repartiton first12:57
scottyThat will be in about 4 months when I get my own computer and not get killed for trashing the drive :P12:57
scottyWhat's that, JohnFlux?12:57
joseanybody have problems in gmail with konqueror?12:58
zorglu1well if the data are important and scotty a beginer a repartition is unadviced :)12:58
josejava don't load... or something and gmail show me the html version of page12:59
JohnFluxscotty: a priopetary piece of software12:59
JohnFluxscotty: you'd have to get it from somewhere12:59
gnomefreakwhy not use qtparted12:59
scottyJohnFlux, what exactly does it do?12:59
haakonnthe same as gnu parted12:59
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D4m4gehi12:59
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JohnFluxscotty: what haakonn says01:00
gnomefreakscotty: its software that helps you partition you harddrive01:00
scottyAh01:00
abattoirjose: you can change Konqueror's Browser identification for gmail01:00
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abattoirjose: Tools -> Browser -> Identification01:01
scottyI think I'll just wait until I buy my own computer (3-4 months) and install Kubuntu when I first get it, that way if something does go wrong, no data lost, and I can just reinstall windows.01:01
abattoirjose: set it to one of the newer Mozilla ones 1.7.3 or to Firefox01:01
gnomefreaklol its greyed out01:03
abattoirjose: ugh sorry Tools -> Change Browser Identification ;)01:03
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LeeJunFanI wish installing a few thousand fonts didn't mean the system turned to molasses.01:04
sotiredscotty:if you trash the drive tell your family that they are a bunch of corporate nipple suckers who are too afraid to break away and be their own person. Also tell them that their flower child generation turned out to be nothing but a big dissapointment. then tell them to go suck down another starbucks latte whille gently killing babies through their over-use of oil.01:04
clinckartsHi all01:04
sotiredor you could just say sorry....01:04
scottyLMAO01:05
LeeJunFansotired: :D Take a valum man.01:05
sotiredsorry about the outburst...im just mad cuz i cant encode my divx files to dvd ;-/01:05
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scottyNah, it cheered me up :P01:05
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LeeJunFanI especially liked the "_gently_ killing babies".01:06
sotiredha01:07
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D4m4gedoes anyone remember who had that probleme with kmplayer not playing anything?01:08
D4m4gei had the same probleme, and i figured out why...01:08
D4m4geapparently he was comming oftenly01:08
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abattoirD4m4ge: i think it was centyx...01:10
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D4m4geok, i'll send him e mmo01:10
D4m4gea memo*01:10
D4m4gethx :)01:10
abattoir[02:30:13]  <centyx> anyone know how to remove kmplayer-plugins-konq w/out removing kubuntu-desktop01:10
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D4m4gethere is a channel log on the web?01:11
abattoiryes... dont remember where exactly01:11
bachstudiescan anyone help me wit01:11
abattoiri'll search wait :)01:11
D4m4ge:D01:11
sotired-afkwhoz wit?01:11
sotired-afkwhiz wit?01:11
abattoirD4m4ge: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/01:12
D4m4gethank you abattoir01:13
D4m4geare you french?01:13
abattoirno problem :)01:13
jerryhi01:13
abattoirnope.. just the nick :)01:13
D4m4gedo you say "abattoir" in english?01:13
D4m4geok01:13
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sotiredfreedom fries anyone?01:14
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abattoirD4m4ge: i believe its a commonly use word in English, but the origin is obviously french01:14
BoSJoAll: Strange thing, a lot of webpages wont load fully, always seem to miss 2 images.......and it just wont load the page 100%. This is both Firefox and Konqueror. Any ideas01:14
D4m4geok01:14
abattoir*used01:14
khaije1what does it mean?01:14
clinckartsWich is the best "windows emulator" under linux (free)01:14
abattoirkhaije1: a slaughterhouse01:14
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HawkwindAnyone have a link to some information on how to setup a personal apt-get repository on your own personal website.  Like the exact directory structure and how to create the lists that need to be in place for apt-get to read and such ?01:14
abattoirclinckarts: wine01:14
clinckartsabattoir: Thanks01:15
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khaije1abattoir: ah non a mi Wine Is Not an Emulator tsk tsk01:15
elknof3hi everyone01:15
khaije1:-)01:15
abattoir:)01:15
elknof3can somebody help me configuring the microphone??  it doesnt work...01:15
sotiredwine=api..right?01:16
khaije1it's an api translation layer... iw as going to say Xen, but we won't have the chips for that for a couple months01:16
khaije1yup01:16
sotiredelknof3: ican hear you just fine...01:16
clinckartselknof3: Did you plug in into computer?01:16
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elknof3its a lap top...  it already have it installed01:16
clinckartselknof3: Sorry, bad joke ;-)01:16
elknof3integrated   i mena*01:16
elknof3jajajaja   no actually it was good...01:17
fockerHawkwind: google for apt repository howto01:17
clinckartsI'm running with KDE01:17
sotiredelknof: spain or mexico or south america?01:17
elknof3jajajaa =  hahahaha    lol...  its just that im not a well english speaker...01:17
clinckartsIs it possible to run Gnome application?01:17
elknof3mexico01:17
sotiredmost ppl in america dont speak english very well either01:17
sotiredmy best freind just moved to mexico01:18
sotiredel paz or la pz01:18
sotiredi cant remember which01:18
D4m4geabattoir it was insanekane01:18
D4m4getwo days ago01:18
elknof3it just that they usea a lot of contractions, so sometimes its impossible to figure out what are they saying01:18
D4m4gedoes he come regularly?01:18
clinckartsDo I neeed to install smthg to run Gnome with kubuntu?01:18
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sotiredyes, gnome01:18
clinckartsHowto?01:19
abattoirD4m4ge: oops sorry, but i remember centyx complaining about it today :)01:19
sotiredsorry...im being a smartass01:19
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koshprobably sudo apt-get install gnome01:19
D4m4gemy problem came from the output, if anoyone asks for it again...01:19
abattoirD4m4ge: yes01:19
D4m4geKMplayer uses xvideo as default, i just changed it to X11shm01:19
clinckartsI mean when running KDE, I want to execute Gnome interface as well..; Is it possible?01:19
fockersudo apt-get install gnome-desktop01:19
D4m4geand it works fine now :)01:19
elknof3so...how can i configure the microphone??01:20
LeeJunFananyone know if you can use kde-window-decorations with xgl on dapper in any way yet? SUSE can and dammit I want to too!01:20
abattoirD4m4ge: he's a regular alright :)01:20
fockerclinckarts: you can use gnome apps if you hav egnome libs installed, but you can't run both desktops at same time01:20
clinckartsI already install some programs (Gnome), do I need to reinstall them after installation of gnome desktop??01:20
D4m4geok, 'ill leave him a memo01:21
fockerclinckarts: no01:21
fockersudo apt-get install gnome-desktop will drag in whatever gnome libs you don't have, but need01:21
fockerit won't walk all over your existing apps01:21
fockerwelcome to the better world of a Debian-based distro01:22
Fiya_Werkinit'll add a ton of gnom eapps to your menus tho01:22
abattoirelknof3: It might already be setup, have you tried messing around with a mixer (kmix) ?01:22
fockerFiya_Werkin: right01:22
clinckartsfocker: I don't find egnome01:22
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fockerDebian ased systems will auto update the menues with added programs01:23
elknof3abattoir,   lol   let me see...01:23
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fockerclinckarts: from a shell, type "apt-get install gnome-desktop"01:23
fockerwhoops, add sudo to the start of that line01:24
fockerI forget that a lot01:24
fockerI'm used to su root and then doing a bunch of stuff01:24
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clinckartsHum, apt-get install gnome-desktop say that it's a virtual package01:25
clinckartsI need to specify the release01:25
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clinckartsapt-get install gnome-desktop01:25
clinckartsLecture des listes de paquets... Fait01:26
clinckartsConstruction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait01:26
clinckartsLe paquet gnome-desktop est un paquet virtuel fourni par:01:26
clinckarts  gnome-desktop-environment 1:2.12.2.301:26
clinckartsVous devez explicitement slectionner un paquet  installer.01:26
clinckartsE: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet gnome-desktop01:26
clinckartsAny idea?01:26
fockermy francais sucks01:26
elknof3nope...  nothing missing...  it just dont work...  im testing with krecord...01:26
fockerlong time since high school01:26
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fockerumm, try "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment"01:27
abattoirelknof3: so mic is on input(w/ full vol.) ? or is it not present at all01:27
elknof3yeah its present at max...01:28
abattoirelknof3: also try toggling 'Capture' e on and off01:28
fockerwhen you type that out, then hit tab key after the "t" in "environment"01:28
fockerthat will auto complete the version number01:28
elknof3abattoir, i've been doing it for a while... but nothing...01:28
abattoirelknof3: kmix right?01:28
clinckartsIt works... But 349Mb !!!01:28
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elknof3abattoir, sure01:28
fockeror you might launch adept from the menu system and do it from there01:28
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fockerclinckarts: gnome and all that it comes with  is  large01:29
abattoirelknof3: okay, in the switches tab do you have multiple Mic entries?01:29
fockerthat is why I don't use gnome01:29
fockerbut KDE is likely just as big01:29
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fockerI just prefer it01:30
abattoirelknof3: which laptop? brand/model?01:30
elknof3abattoir, dell d62001:30
elknof3abattoir, latitude01:30
VieLGuS-KuTaSwhats a comman to install a .deb package?01:31
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elknof3abattoir, just one mic entry per tab.. one in output, yhe other in input01:31
VieLGuS-KuTaSwhats a command to install a .deb package?01:31
clinckartsIf I good understand, I can run Gnome software when running an KDE desktop with that package... Right?01:31
HawkwindVieLGuS-KuTaS: dpkg -i file.deb01:31
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VieLGuS-KuTaSthanks01:31
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elknof3VieLGuS-KuTaS, in konqueror o nautilus, locate it, left click, (right handed)>kubuntu package>install package01:32
clinckartsI have to chose between gdm & kdm01:32
abattoirelknof3: hmmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeD620 is also not complete01:32
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fiyawerx620? hehe, I'm running on a d600 with zero problems01:32
abattoirfiyawerx: mic works for you?01:33
clinckartsI have to chose between gdm & kdm during install of gnome-desktop-environment... What should I choose?01:33
_bradHello01:33
fiyawerxabattoir: good question, havn't had reason to test it, you mean the mic jack ?01:33
fockerclinckarts: kdm01:33
abattoirfiyawerx: nope, the internal mic01:33
clinckartsfocker:Tks01:33
fockerthat will give you the same login screen you currently have01:33
roadrunner_hello... anyone feel like helping me out with installing Nvidia drivers? Im having some problems01:33
fiyawerxabattoir: how can i test it?01:33
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elknof3fiyawerx, with a sound record application..  like krecord... or sound recorder in gnome01:34
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clinckartsActually, I can't install eclipse 3.2... Nobody nows how to do that?01:35
roadrunner_somebody... I could use some help with a driver problem, anyone will to help me out?01:35
elknof3roadrunner_, maybe i can   whats the pro??01:35
roadrunner_I keep getting an error when I install, so Im going to paste it here. If someone can tell me what it means, that would be awesome01:35
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abattoirfiyawerx: open kmix->Output->Switch on the green and red LEDs below the mic icon, crank up the vol.-> Tap the mic as hard as you can -> Listen carefully for taps from your speaker ;)01:35
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roadrunner_Firstly. Ihave a GeForce 6800, and I downloaded the linux version of the drivers. I do everything it says and login to the console, and run the install like it says01:36
D4m4gebye all01:36
fiyawerxabattoir: where's the mic located on these suckers?01:36
fiyawerxthe little hole above the power button?01:36
roadrunner_I was missing a bunch of packages it required, so I downloaded all of those. Now I am getting this error:01:36
abattoirfiyawerx: ugh, i dont have one, so dont know, elknof3 might know01:36
roadrunner_Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure you have installed the Kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly configured;01:37
fiyawerxroadrunner_: did you do the install from the repos?01:37
fiyawerxroadrunner_: i have a geforce 6600gt pci-e and i did that, worked pretty well for me01:37
elknof3abattoir, i've tryed automatix and works just great for that driver...01:37
roadrunner_Im not sure what you mean01:37
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roadrunner_I am an A+ certified man... lol, doesnt help me with linux01:38
roadrunner_Im a linux noob01:38
clinckartsOK, gnome-desktop-environment is installed..; But the programs I previously installed are not in the menu... Where to find them?01:38
roadrunner_Repos = Repositories?01:38
abattoirelknof3: oh, so mic works now?01:38
fockerRoa01:38
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elknof3abattoir, lol  that message was for fiyawerx... lol01:39
fockerroadrunner_: do a "sudo apt-get install kernel-source"01:39
elknof3sorry01:39
abattoirelknof3: oh hehe01:39
_bradroadrunner, have you tried EasyUbuntu?  Its an app that automagically installs many useful things, including closed source drivers.01:39
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elknof3fiyawerx, try automatix01:39
fockerclinckarts: give it a minute, they will be there01:39
elknof3fiyawerx, or easyubuntu...01:40
roadrunner_focker, where/when should I enter that command01:40
fockereasyubuntu is more current supposedly01:40
roadrunner_like, when I go to the console, do I have to navigate to a certain directory?01:40
fockerroadrunner_: open a terminal or find the package in adept01:40
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fockerroadrunner_: no special directory, that command will work anywhere01:41
roadrunner_I have to do the install from the console (No X server running) so I can't just run the terminal can I?01:41
roadrunner_oh, ok, thanks01:41
roadrunner_would you mind telling me what that does? lol. Because I don't know what it means since I am a noob with linux.01:41
VieLGuS-KuTaShow do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying01:41
fockerif you are already at console, that is the same thing01:41
VieLGuS-KuTaSthe damn xmms wont compile for shit01:41
fockerroadrunner_: sudo, means to do the command as if you were root01:42
roadrunner_I understand that much, I researched it01:42
roadrunner_I meant, apt-get install kernel source01:42
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roadrunner_what is that doing exactly? Starting with "apt-get"01:42
fockerroadrunner_: apt-get is the program to install software01:42
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fockeractually just apt01:42
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fockerroadrunner_: apt has a lot of sub commands01:43
clinckartsSome minuts after... No menu change01:43
roadrunner_install kernel-source does what?01:43
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roadrunner_Im not understanding how it is "installing" the kernel source...01:43
fockerroadrunner_: apt-get install/remove, apt-cache search, etc.01:43
roadrunner_ok, thanks01:44
fockerroadrunner_: install is the part you put for any program to install when you use apt01:44
roadrunner_I gotta go eat... lol. Ill stop back in later, maybe someone else can pick up where you left off =D01:44
roadrunner_I just didn't understand what installing the kernel source was doing01:44
fockerroadrunner_: kernel-source will grab the program source code for the Linux kernel that should match your currently installed and running Linux kernel unless you did some custom kernel stuff already01:45
fockerRoa01:45
fockerroadrunner_: hold on a sec01:45
VieLGuS-KuTaShow do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying, the damn xmms wont compile for shit01:46
fockerroadrunner_: when you get that pkg, then run the nvidia installer, it will compile the nvidia driver versus the kernel you have so everything will run fine01:46
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fockerroadrunner_: you may get errors for compiling tools, don't know01:48
ricardohelo world!01:48
KyralVieLGuS-KuTaS: just apt-get xmms01:49
VieLGuS-KuTaSdoesnt work01:49
Kyral???01:49
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VieLGuS-KuTaSnot what it needs i guess01:49
HawkwindVieLGuS-KuTaS: What does *doesn't work* mean exactly ?01:49
KyralWaht are you trying to do anyway?01:49
afm\colossusdon't use xmms any more01:50
afm\colossusit's gtk01:50
afm\colossusand therefore obsolete01:50
KyralGTK != Bad :P01:50
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS:  "sudo apt-get install xmms"01:50
afm\colossusKyral: gtk sucks01:50
david_this prolly seems funny i been trying to copy a file and all i can think of is "copy". i can't find anything different01:51
afm\colossusgtk+ is a-ok01:51
Kyralon my laptop I depend heavily on GTK1 apps01:51
h3sp4wnwhy does kopete need xmms ?01:51
khaije1Kyral: whats wrong w/ it?01:51
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: afaik xmms is just optional01:51
Hawkwinddavid_: cp01:51
afm\colossusxmms is crap01:51
Kyralkhaije1: I said NOT Equals :P01:51
david_oh thanks01:51
afm\colossususe beep media player or audacious instead01:51
phasegenanyone know of a good faq on wireless connection to a windows managed network? holiday inn express isn't very linux friendly...01:51
khaije1doesn't xubuntu use gtk apps?01:51
Kyralafm\colossus: for my 4 year old laptop, XMMS is just right01:51
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: you can continue installing kopete w/o it01:51
ricardoanybody knows how to add a program that HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALED, to the K-Menu?01:51
david_where would i get a list of commands?01:51
afm\colossuskhaije1: gtk+, not gtk01:51
ricardothx01:51
Kyralkhaije1: he means GTK101:51
Hawkwindricardo: kmenuedit ?01:51
Kyralthe current GTK version (GTK+ or GTK2) is newer01:51
khaije1right, doesn't xubuntu use gtk101:52
VieLGuS-KuTaSabattoir: i think ure right , bu what does it do ?01:52
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: are you compiling Kopete manually?01:52
Kyralbtw: Audicaous == BMP :P01:52
afm\colossusKyral: no, not exactly :>01:52
afm\colossusit's fork01:52
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: xmms? its a music player ;)01:52
afm\colossusbut it's a different project01:52
Kyralafm\colossus: of the SAME CODEBASE01:52
KyralBelieve me I read up the entire thing01:53
afm\colossusto keep me from getting frustrated about your slightly bitchy behaviour01:53
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: kopete might need it for the "Now Playing" feature01:53
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afm\colossusi'm off to bed01:53
afm\colossusbye ;)01:53
VieLGuS-KuTaSabattoir: omg , , im so mad01:53
khaije1oh.. i thought gtk+ and gtk1 were the same... so then whats the diss between gtk+ and gtk2?01:53
phasegenanyone know of a good faq on wireless connection to a windows managed network? holiday inn express isn't very linux friendly...01:53
khaije1diss = diff?01:53
Kyralkhaije1: a lot apparently01:53
afm\colossusgtk+ IS gtk201:53
Kyralenough to keep the XMMS devs from upgrading to GTK201:53
Kyralbecause it would break a lot of the plugins written01:53
khaije1iow gtk+ = gtk2 , lol01:53
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: why? :S01:53
HawkwindWell there is always xmms2 which uses GTK201:53
afm\colossusxmms is not actively developed any more01:53
Hawkwindafm\colossus: But xmms2 is :)01:54
afm\colossusHawkwind: yes, so be it01:54
KyralI dunno, all I know is that Xmms works just fine on my laptop01:54
ricardoTHANK! kind of newbie here...01:54
afm\colossusbut there are more mature gtk+-based alternatives at hand01:54
Kyralon this machine I use Amarok :D01:54
afm\colossusand in the repos01:54
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VieLGuS-KuTaSabattoir: because i just spent like half a day trying to get the xmms to compile01:54
HawkwindKyral: It works fine here too :)01:54
fockerDavid:  google for the dos to linux command reference01:54
Hawkwindafm\colossus: The good thing is, linux is about choice so users can use what *they* want not what someone else tells them they should01:55
fockerI think he is gone01:55
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: which version of kopete are you installing? it might be available in the repos01:55
fockerI can't read fast enough01:55
afm\colossusHawkwind: linux is the kernel of GNU01:55
VieLGuS-KuTaSabattoir: the latest01:55
afm\colossusnot more, but not less, either01:55
afm\colossus;>01:55
Kyralafm\colossus: not true01:55
Kyralafm\colossus: Hurd is the GNU kernel01:55
HawkwindLOL01:55
Kyralhence "GNU/Linux"01:55
HawkwindDidn't mean for someone to get picky down to the very last thing in life01:56
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afm\colossusyeah, and i'll be happy to make the switch once it's here and kicking01:56
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: 0.12.0? ok, afaik, 'official' kubuntu packages havent been released for that...01:56
khaije1i thought we all used ubuntu not linux (j/k :-))01:56
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: are you on kubuntu 6.06 or 5.10?01:56
afm\colossuswell, i for one use Gentoo GNU/Linux01:56
afm\colossusand not Kubuntu GNU/Linux01:57
VieLGuS-KuTaSfocker: kubuntu 606 x6401:57
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: you can try http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/01:57
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abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: then its http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/kopete_3.5.3+kopete0.12.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ;)01:57
h3sp4wnAnyone noticed much difference with the latest fglrx ?01:58
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kbrooks_brad?01:58
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: my kubuntu 6.06 x64 came with kopete01:58
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VieLGuS-KuTaSyeah , too late now , thanks though01:58
kbrooks_brad: easyubuntu SEMI AUTOMATICALLY installs these kind of things01:58
VieLGuS-KuTaSits already compiling01:58
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: compilink kopete manually takes a long time... and lots of disk space too :(01:59
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fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: sorry, trying to keep up here and help while my caffiene is still in effect01:59
abattoirVieLGuS-KuTaS: but i do it for the jingle support01:59
KyralArchLinux here </late>01:59
VieLGuS-KuTaSfocker: yes. but im getting the new version01:59
kbrooks_brad: there is a major difference between "installs on run" and "check a few checkboxes, then install"01:59
afm\colossus     Thu Jun 15 11:14:47 2006 >>> kde-base/kopete-3.5.201:59
afm\colossus       merge time: 16 minutes and 4 seconds.01:59
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afm\colossusyeah01:59
afm\colossus;)01:59
HawkwindLike we're impressed by that, NOT02:00
h3sp4wnKyral: Has arch current got xorg 7.1 yet ?02:00
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fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS:  for future reference you may be able to use one from the unstable branch repos02:00
Kyralh3sp4wn: no02:00
Kyralthe rumors on the Forums are that NO distro will ship Xorg 7.1 for a while02:00
VieLGuS-KuTaSfocker: ok , thanks02:00
KyralBecause the API changed a lot02:01
Kyraland right now both NVidia's and ATI's drivers don't work PERIOD02:01
HawkwindKyral: Except Mandriva 2007 which will ship in 2 - 3 months02:01
VieLGuS-KuTaSi like compiling stuff ,  i just get annoyed with dependencies02:01
afm\colossusisn't nvidia said to work, with issues?02:01
HawkwindKyral: Nvidia works with 7.1 atleast in Mandriva Cooker currently02:01
KyralHawkwind: The Arch people will have it in a seperate repo02:01
KyralYah but its....Mandriva....02:02
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: you should try apt-pinning for certain apps that you want cutting edge, although you risk incompatibilities elsewhere02:02
HawkwindKyral: Heh.  I just made the switch from Mandriva to Kubuntu after 4 1/2 years :P02:02
KyralFrankly I don't care one way or another...X 7 works and I'm happy :D02:02
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VieLGuS-KuTaSfocker: how would a command for that lok like?02:03
abattoirHawkwind: dont you miss urpmi ? :P02:03
KyralRPMs == shit :P02:03
Kyral(From personal experiance)02:04
abattoiratleast i did, when i switched to Kubuntu :(02:04
Hawkwindabattoir: A bit yes.  But apt-get is so much darn quicker02:04
KyralOnly two package managers I like are Apt-Get and Pacman02:04
h3sp4wnI am just hoping that the r300 driver has improved enough for me to use the open ati drivers for 3d (even if the performance is not as good as fglrx) Otherwise I will just buy a new card but the fact that it almost works now (Is making me hold on a bit)02:04
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: google for ubuntu apt-pinning02:04
Hawkwindabattoir: I know urpmi like the back of my hand, but I am getting the hang of apt-get pretty well02:04
fockerif that doesn't work, try just the apt-pinning howto and it should help02:05
h3sp4wnWhat is he trying to pin ?02:05
abattoirHawkwind: cool :)02:06
erovi just got the fglrx drivers working a few weeks ago.. its been great ever since.. cant believe i was missing that much performance.. first noticed it when i tried to play QUAKE 2.. and it was so slow..02:06
erovnow thats bad.. hell i remember being on a p133 and playing quake2 on software drivers02:07
h3sp4wnThey have just released some new ones02:07
visik7I know this is not In Topic but read this http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html02:07
erovreally? i'll check it out02:08
erovive got a 9600 here, you?02:09
h3sp4wn9800 pro02:09
fockerVieLGuS-KuTaS: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html  it'll be like "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable kopete"02:09
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VieLGuS-KuTaSfocker: ok , ty02:09
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h3sp4wnVieLGuS-KuTaS: If you want to use something from sid you are better off building it yourself with the dapper libraries if you don't want problems later02:11
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fockeryou should really know what you are doing before messing with sid02:12
fockeror compiling apps for that matter02:12
fockerget help on the first app, before you start jacking around02:13
fockerget too excited and you risk hosing the system02:13
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fockerjoin a local LUG (Linux User Group) if you can find one02:14
h3sp4wnI have been expecting my system to fall to pieces for ages but its just rock solid still02:14
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fockerI've been in one since 1998 and still get help and have a lot of friends and business contacts thru there02:14
fockerfor the guy that wanted to run his own apt server,  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages02:16
fockerwhoops, that is wrong link02:17
abattoirHawkwind, i think it was02:17
fockerhttp://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto02:17
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nrdbI was wondering is the any video card that can output to more than 2 monitors at once (e.g. 4) I don't need much resolution (800x600) would do.02:24
fockermessed up pasting02:24
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roadrunner_Hey focker, I have another question if you are still available02:25
fockernrdb: don't think so02:25
nrdbfocker: I didn't think there was much chance.02:26
roadrunner_Whenever I did the 'sudo apt-get install kernel-souce' it said the package could not be found02:26
fockernrdb: you need 2 dual head cards.  Nvidia and Matrox both make good ones02:26
johnfluxnrdb: there's a matrox that does 3 cards02:26
johnfluxnrdb: 3 monitors i mean02:26
fockernrdb: there may be a four head matrox, but it will be pricey02:27
nrdbjohnflux: ok02:27
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fockera friend did a wall of monitors for wrk and spent some bucks02:27
jinhohow do I make a shortcut in linux?02:28
nrdbjust looking at developing a project.02:28
roadrunner_Focker, you were helping me earlier, and I had another question. So whenever you are available, could you help me again?02:28
fockerroadrunner_: hit tab key at end of that command02:28
fockerto get version02:28
roadrunner_what will that do?02:28
roadrunner_I typed in the command and hit enter, then it said package not found02:28
fockerroadrunner_: you could also do a "sudo apt-cache search kernel-source*"  you may not need the sudo with a cache search02:29
fockerroadrunner_: tab, when you are in a terminal or console, will auto complete commands and filenames if it is able02:29
fockerroadrunner_: it is a feature of the bash command line02:30
roadrunner_alright... but how would that help me with my current problem?02:30
fockerroadrunner_: type that line in console, then hit tab key before the enter02:30
roadrunner_Because it is simply saying the "kernel-source" package isn02:30
roadrunner_isnt installed... whatever that means02:30
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roadrunner_alright, Ill see what happens02:31
fockerroadrunner_: it will get you the exact version of the package so you can install it02:31
roadrunner_okay, hitting tab didn't do anything02:32
roadrunner_here is exactly what I entered, and exactly what I got in response02:32
fockerroadrunner_:  "sudo apt-cache search kernel-source*"  and then you get one or two avail pkgs. then you type "sudo apt-get install kernel-sourceversion number"02:32
roadrunner_oh, alright... Ill try that =D02:32
clutthey i installed grub and not ever had problems before but this time in kubuntu, when i reboot, grub doesn't load. i just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor. the partitions are ok, and grub seems to find the stage file just find .. anyone know what the problem might be?02:33
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roadrunner_sorry to be an idiot... this is just my first time with linux02:33
fockeryou may also be able to  so "sudo apt-get install kernel-s*"02:33
fockerroadrunner_: it's OK, everybody has a first time02:33
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fockerroadrunner_: I am about to wind down from my all day caffeine high tho02:33
clutttho i've tried reinstalling grub manually from a live cd and still get the same thing02:33
fiyawerxwhen configuring apt-build, it asks for my cpu architecture, it's a pentium M, but that's not a listed choice, should I just choose Pentium?02:34
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roadrunner_wacom-tools - utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices02:34
roadrunner_vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25 - vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15)02:34
roadrunner_that is exactly what it said after I did the apt-cache thing... now what?02:34
fockerfiyawerx: you might want to at least use pentium 302:35
fockerroadrunner_: crap02:35
fiyawerxpentium 3m?02:35
fockerroadrunner_: hold on, let me look here a minute02:35
fockerfiyawerx: no pentium 3 or compatible, but that is not the rihgt wording02:36
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OODlol02:37
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debian_in k3b when it asks me to specify the max write speed for my combo  cd/dvd burner, is it reffering to max cd recording sped or dvd recording speed02:41
nrdbdebian_: it is used to limit the speed below maximum.02:42
OODdepends what you're burning02:42
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debian_so if im burning a cd versus a dvd (or vice versa) i have to adjust it based on the disc media?02:43
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nrdbdebian_: k3b will try to use the maximum for that particular media, you can then limit lower if you want.02:43
sotiredhey hey hey02:44
debian_nrdb, k thanks02:44
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sotiredi got a quick ? ...this one is a real stumper...02:44
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sotiredhow do i change my default system media player? i dont like kaffiene much and i want mplayer to be my #1 daddy02:45
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OODstart kcontrol02:45
roadrunner_mplayer? Where do you get that at?02:45
sotiredsudo apt-get instal mplayer02:46
roadrunner_I don't personally like Kaffein either, but I couldn't seem to get Xine installed either02:46
OODthen select kde components02:46
sotiredthe only reason i prefer mplayer is because it louder on my system02:46
roadrunner_it says error, couldn't find package02:46
sotiredthats where i was looking02:46
roadrunner_where do I get the mplayer package?02:46
sotiredi dont see anything about media02:46
OODthen file association, then for each file select what player02:46
nrdbsotired: if you are using konqueror there is a config item to change this02:46
sotiredill look closer...02:46
roadrunner_sudo apt-get install mplayer doesn't do anything... it says the package mplayer is missing, so where can I get that package?02:47
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OODsotired: you find it?02:47
FunkyDiscoManDefectiveByDesign.org, today call to sign the petition, calling upon Bono  (U2), to stand against DRM.02:47
FunkyDiscoManhttp://defectivebydesign.org/pressreleases02:47
sotiredoh...i was in the wrong lace...i was n kde components02:47
sotiredthanks02:48
FunkyDiscoManBloody ipod ads :?02:48
OODkde components->file associations02:48
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roadrunner_where can I get the mplayer package?02:48
sotiredadept...02:48
sotiredsynaptic02:48
arcturusroadrunner: try easyubuntu or automatix for mplayer installs02:49
OODyou might need to get hte extra repositories02:49
OODor that02:49
sotiredapt get should work02:49
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roadrunner_it isn't there in Adept02:49
sotiredor easyubuntu02:49
OODkaffeine plays everything though if you install the w32 codecs02:49
roadrunner_I opened adept, and ther eis no mplayer02:49
roadrunner_unless it is labled as something else02:49
OODroadrunner_:then you need to get the extra repositories02:50
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OOD!repositories02:50
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource02:50
erovneed xvid->dvd mpeg2 though02:50
sotiredhttp://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html02:50
sotirederov: ive been trying to do that all day02:50
roadrunner_how do you get the extra repositories? I am a linux noob02:50
sotiredroadrunner_:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html02:50
Hawkwindroadrunner_: Read about 5 lines up02:50
OODroadrunner_: checl those links02:50
erovive been trying forever.. i got it to work.. but the output video is not "right"02:51
sotiredsame here02:51
erovso.. i just gave up and frowned02:51
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erovi wondered if anyone else has those problems02:51
sotiredand mencoder is being mean too me02:51
erovnow i guess it's confirmed :p02:51
arcturusmplayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer02:51
nrdbroadrunner_: one way is to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file02:51
sotiredi tried using any2dvd...but it looks as if (according to sourveforge) that no one is maintaining it02:52
OODyou can try vlc02:52
sotiredtoo many bugs..audi out of sync02:52
sotiredvlc can encode?02:52
OODoh you want to encode02:52
sotiredor were you talking to someone else02:52
sotired:)02:52
sotiredive tried everything02:52
sotiredi found a soultion02:52
nrdbroadrunner_: you can also do it using adept (the package manager)02:52
sotiredsolution even02:52
sotiredhttp://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Varsha02:53
sotiredbut varsha wont run for me02:53
sotiredi have jre and all the other dependencies02:53
sotiredbut no dice02:53
arcturusfile associatons:  konqueror > settings > configure konqueror > file associations02:53
roadrunner_nrdb: How do I get repositories using adept?02:53
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OODjava for video encoding?02:53
sotiredjust type it02:53
sotiredi know02:53
sotiredsucks02:53
OODthat's a bad combination02:53
sotiredbut there doesnt seem to be another alternative that will give me video that is in sync02:54
sotiredof course this is all for legal backups of movies i paid for and own ;)02:54
nrdbroadrunner_: some are allready in the sources.list file commented out.  other than that you need to find the repositories though an external source (e.g. google)02:54
OODof course :D02:54
sotiredif i was a coder i would start a project for this...02:55
erovyeah i dont see why there isnt more compaints02:55
erovbecause it is "supposed" to work02:55
OODhmm, this might interest you: http://diva-project.org/wiki02:55
sotiredany2dvd is really promising02:56
erovi used that with the same results sotired02:56
sotiredbut no one seems to be working on it02:56
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sotireddiva=gnome02:56
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nrdbroadrunner_: have a look at "view->manage repositories"02:56
sotiredphooey02:56
roadrunner_nrdb: Im not quite sure I know what you mean. How do I add more packages to adept? I am assuming you somehow check other repositories like you said...02:56
OODgnome apps work fine :)02:56
sotiredto each their own...i prefer kdw02:56
sotiredkde even02:56
OODso do i, but hey if it works02:57
nrdbroadrunner_: what are you looking for?02:57
roadrunner_nrdb: ok, so I am looking at that now...02:57
roadrunner_nrdb: mplayer at the moment02:57
h3sp4wnI don't really use any gnome apps02:57
OODfirefox?02:57
roadrunner_nrdb: and it just isn't in my adept manager... I didn't know how to add it02:57
h3sp4wnfirefox is gtk not gnome02:57
erovi did at first... then dumped firefox and the rest.. and gave the rest a chance02:57
roadrunner_Firefox pwns the crap out of Konqueror02:57
sotiredi dunno02:58
erovalright im going play wolf et..later guys02:58
arcturushow's everyone like opera?02:58
arcturusok?02:58
nrdbroadrunner_: i don't know what repository mplayer is in02:58
h3sp4wnmultiverse02:58
sotiredi was always a huge firefox fan, but ive found in linux that konqeurer seems better02:58
sotiredmulti02:58
arcturusnrdb: multiverse02:58
sotiredfirefox wont play well with flash for me02:59
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OODi use ie6 for flash02:59
sotiredi like opera, but its a bit slow02:59
Tommy2k4i <3 opera02:59
sotiredhavent used it in linux tho02:59
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sotiredopera has some nice features02:59
sotiredmouse gesturing...mmm02:59
arcturussotired: any opera <-> mailto dance you've gotta go thru?02:59
nrdbroadrunner_: if you look down near the bottom of the list you should see a line with multiverse in it.02:59
sotiredi prefer lynx02:59
nrdbarcturus: thanks03:00
sotiredim not sure03:00
Tommy2k4i hardly ever use mouse gestures03:00
sotiredbtw...the lynx thing was a joke03:00
OODi use my 2 extra mouse buttons instead of mouse gestures :D03:00
h3sp4wnThere is no point in using lynx (elinks is pretty good though)03:00
sotiredbut you all forgot to laugh03:00
arcturusfirefox <-> thunderbird integration is still a PIA03:00
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sotiredPIA?03:00
sotiredoh03:00
arcturuspain in der ass03:00
sotirednevrmnd duh03:00
h3sp4wnarcturus: Not really you just add 2 lines to prefs.js I think it is03:00
arcturush3: it should be set up in a menu item03:01
arcturusnone of this js editing bs03:01
roadrunner_nrdb: dont know what you mean... I looked down through everything there. What am I looking for?03:01
sotiredeither way..there are a million tools to convert dvd>xvid seamlessly...but i cant find one simple solution for xvid>dvd03:01
nrdbroadrunner_: did you find it?03:01
sotiredi used to use a prog called VSOconverxtodvd for M$, it was great...one click and it converts and burns03:02
h3sp4wnarcturus: Its easy to find out how to it in google (and is only an issue if you are using the firefox and thunderbird that are not in the repos)03:02
sotiredbut i guess those days are over for me03:02
roadrunner_nrdb: no03:02
roadrunner_nrdb: Im not sure what I am looking for.03:02
fockerhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  several of you are going to need this for the multimedia problems you have03:03
arcturush3:  it would be easier to name them as defaults from their respective 'preferences' menus03:03
kbrooksWOW03:03
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sotiredi did that days ago...03:03
nrdbroadrunner_: a line that is gray and says something like "deb http://..... universe multiverse"03:03
arcturusaka firefox > edt> preferences > email03:04
OODit'll just say universe03:04
sotirederov_:ok..i figured it out03:04
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roadrunner_nrdb: it isnt there03:04
h3sp4wnkbrooks: Have you updated the fglrx that is provided by easybuntu yet ? (There is a new release - may be a reason to recommend it if it deals with that easily)03:04
roadrunner_nrdb: I see nothing... there are some that say deb and deb-src... but thats it03:04
sotirederov: find a good dvd ripper, open it up in kate, retype the whole thing backwards and then run it03:05
sotired:)03:05
kbrooksh3sp4wn: new release? link?03:05
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ph4t-ph4nt0mgood morning!  anyone here that's not a bot?03:06
elementI'm getting ready to migrate from windows to Kubuntu and I'm going 64bit in the process.  How stable and how well supported is AMD64?03:06
nrdbroadrunner_: are you using breezy or dapper ?03:06
arcturus!windows03:06
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm03:06
arcturuslol03:06
EMACSdaddyi used to b be a bot03:06
ph4t-ph4nt0mlol03:06
OODroadrunner_: http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot38pj.jpg03:06
ph4t-ph4nt0mwell, i'm glad your not anymore then03:06
arcturus!billgates03:06
ubotuI know nothing about billgates03:06
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OODthat's what it should look like03:06
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h3sp4wnkbrooks: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run (dapper has 8.25.18)03:07
ph4t-ph4nt0mok, so i finally got Kubuntu and replaced Mandriva installation.  w00t!03:07
roadrunner_yeah, mine just says universe03:07
roadrunner_no multiverse... does that matter?03:07
OODroadrunner: if it's grayed out, then right click and select enable03:07
OODroadrunner: then just double click universe, and then type in multiverse03:08
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arcturushttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html03:08
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kbrooksh3sp4wn: erm. no thanks.03:08
roadrunner_this is what mine says here03:08
roadrunner_deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/     dapper     universe03:08
ph4t-ph4nt0mwell,  anyone have any idea of how to install hardware or manually detect hardware wtih Kubuntu? i'm kinda lost here and i can't seem to find any manual pages on this subject.03:08
h3sp4wnkbrooks: What is wrong with that ?03:08
kbrooksh3sp4wn: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/05/13/easyubuntu-philosophy/03:08
OODroadrunner_: double cliick the universe part, then just add the multiverse part by typing it in03:09
kbrooksh3sp4wn: i'm not going to take that .run file and put it into easyubuntu03:09
roadrunner_what does that do? Me changing it I mean. What does it change?03:09
sotired-afk!free03:09
ubotufreedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing03:09
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kbrooksroadrunner_: how much software you can download03:09
sotired-afk!god03:10
ubotuI know nothing about god03:10
nrdbroadrunner_: is it black?03:10
kbrookssotired-afk: do not abuse the bot03:10
sotired-afkfigures...neither do i03:10
arcturus!hardware03:10
sotired-afksorry03:10
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport03:10
roadrunner_it just became black now03:10
roadrunner_it was grey03:10
h3sp4wnkbrooks: Yes I know but from that file dapper specific deb's can be created03:10
roadrunner_but when I added multiverse it became black03:10
OODroadrunner_: you add that repository, then you have to click apply to apply the changes, then fetch update03:10
OODthat's good03:10
kbrooksh3sp4wn: and? i'm not gonna do it03:10
OODthat means you enabled it03:10
arcturusph4t: have u added hardware?03:10
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OODclick apply to apply the changes03:11
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roadrunner_omg, wow03:11
OODthen just fetch updates and you'll be able to download mplayer03:11
nrdbroadrunner_: it is now active you will need to do an "fetch updates" and you should be away and running03:11
roadrunner_I went from like, 5000 to 18000 packages available =D03:11
OODyep03:11
roadrunner_yup... is that the only repository I will need?03:11
roadrunner_Or are there others I should enable as well?>03:11
OODthat's mostly all you'll need03:11
ph4t-ph4nt0mis there any tools on the CD to get hardware to be redietcted and the previous drivers loaded?  i rebooted Kubuntu after having a power outage and now my network card will not connect.  it sees it in LSPCI, but the drivers won't load and even network settings sees nothing.  kinda need a bit of assistance please, if anyone has any spare time or really is a caring type of person....03:11
arcturus!ati03:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:12
nrdbroadrunner_: check for mplayer, if its found that all you need to do.03:12
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h3sp4wnkbrooks: I thought the latest ati drivers was a feature of easyubuntu ?03:12
roadrunner_yup, thanks a ton!03:12
roadrunner_I know how to do it from here03:12
kbrooksh3sp4wn: we don't do 'latest <thing>'03:12
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roadrunner_I do have another quick question though... I use Firefox by default (I have it set to default) in kubuntu of course... but when I click links from in here, they open in Konqueror... any way to change that?03:12
sotiredhttp://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/205821903:12
sotiredthis sounds good...but the syntax is bad...if anyone knows how to correct this please pm me03:13
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sotiredill  be in and out...03:13
arcturusph4t-ph4nt0m: u sure the nice card isn't toast?03:13
arcturuserr ... nic card03:14
ph4t-ph4nt0mpretty sure.. if it was, lspci wouldn't see it at all03:14
arcturusnot necessarily03:15
ph4t-ph4nt0mand there's still lights on the back of it.  its my built in nic come with the nForce6 board i have MCP51 chipset type.03:15
kbrooksh3sp4wn: as in, we dont make packages of latest things.03:15
ph4t-ph4nt0merr nForce 403:15
arcturusph4t-ph4nt0m: try the liveCD & see if network is detected03:16
ph4t-ph4nt0moh, and my other OSes that are still operational can still connect thru the internet by it.03:16
h3sp4wnkbrooks: I would agree with you under most circumstances however that particular driver fixes the issue whereby machines with fglrx don't shut down properly (at least for me) maybe they will put it into dapper-updates because of that. Fair enough03:16
ph4t-ph4nt0mMandriva is still residing on a small partition and i rebooted into it after not seeing it in Kubuntu and Mandriva saw and used it.03:17
arcturusbrb03:17
ph4t-ph4nt0mforgot to mention that heh.03:17
kbrooksh3sp4wn: someone would have to file a bug03:17
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h3sp4wnkbrooks: There already is a bug but kernel developers are seldom interested in working around bugs in closed source drivers (so I don't hold out for it being fixed)03:19
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mytehey has anyone here successfully patched the madwifi drivers for injection attack and then compiled them and got them running on kubuntu or ubuntu ?03:23
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ph4t-ph4nt0m<arctutus> checked on the driver Mandriva uses.  it's the nvnet driver.  if that's any help to you.  i have the restricted modules for the madwifi, nvidia, etc. installled allso.03:24
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h3sp4wnmyte: I use madwifi-ng from svn (but if you do that you can't have linux-restricted-modules installed)03:24
mytehmm wait a sec03:25
h3sp4wnmyte: You could also use madwifi-old if you wanted03:25
myteis that wat caused my tainted message before ?03:25
mytewell03:25
mytei have used madwifi old on fedora before03:25
myteand debian03:25
h3sp4wnath_hal is non free03:25
mytebut always run into propblems when recompiling kernel or some such03:25
myteoh03:25
roadrunner_I guess I was lucky... my Linksys Wireless Adapter was recognized right away, didn't need to install any drivers03:25
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roadrunner_I guess the generic ones work wonders =D03:26
mytewell03:26
h3sp4wnObviously you have to rebuild modules when you rebuild the kernel03:26
mytemy atheros based card works fine right out of the box03:26
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mytewell .... obviously03:26
mytebut i am a freebsd guy03:26
h3sp4wnSo am I (originally)03:26
myteso this is all pretty foreign to me .. and most info i find seems to contradict eachother03:26
myteso i am hoiping for a bit of good info03:26
mytelike why and how to do something03:27
mytelike rebuilding modules etc03:27
roadrunner_ok... I am a complete noob. I kinda understand what it means to rebuild the kernel and all, but could I have a link that explains it better?03:27
roadrunner_like... so I can learn how to do it/understand what all this crap means >_<03:27
ph4t-ph4nt0manyone else have a MCP51 board they are using?03:27
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krlosroadrunner_: already tryed with google?03:28
kbrooksroadrunner_: why do u need 2 rebuild the kernel03:29
roadrunner_kbrooks: I dont03:29
roadrunner_kbrooks: I just would like to learn what it means, and how to modify it and stuff03:29
kbrookswhy do u want to?03:29
roadrunner_kbrooks: this is just a learning process for me =D03:29
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roadrunner_kbrooks: again, I don't want to. Im just trying to learn the terminology and such03:30
macdroadrunner_: well kernel.org has a nice howto about the linux kernel and modules, would be a good read to at least know the procedure and why03:32
roadrunner_ok, cool, thanks alot03:32
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roadrunner_I think I have learned more in the last 2 nights than I have in my entire life >_<03:32
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lwizardlhi03:32
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lwizardlanyone here make their own kde themes?03:34
BoSJoI would like to get NTFS Access, but i'm a bit confused about what program to install, know that some can destroy the filesystem for Win03:35
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larson9999hmmmm, i'll be danged if i can upgrate to 2.6.15-25 and figure out how to get my nvidia card working.03:37
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larson9999what's the magic trick to that?03:38
robopen source-ing the drivers might help :P03:38
OODlarson9999: you have a problem in getting the kernel upgrade to work with the nvidia driver?03:40
larson9999OOD yep03:41
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larson9999OOD: i think it's because i don't have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-68603:41
larson9999i have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 instead03:41
roadrunner_focker: It suddenly said I was an unregistered user now... so... I can't talk to you anymore >_< and I forget how to register03:42
OODthen get the new linux restricted module03:42
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larson9999OOD: but i'm curious why there would be a linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 but not linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 in the repository03:42
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OODthere is03:42
larson9999OOD: oops but i'm curious why there would be a linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 but not linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686 in the repository03:43
OODi think they're in the universe or multiverse03:43
larson9999OOD: when i do apt get the 23 is found but not the 2503:43
BoSJoroadrunner_ : /msg nickserv register03:43
fockerhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering03:43
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focker"/msg nickserv register <your-password>"03:44
focker"/msg nickserv identify <your-password>"03:44
OODlarson9999: the newer linux restricted module is either in the universe or multiverse repository03:44
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larson9999OOD: i'll look03:45
Healotthe new on is in restricted repos03:46
Healothence restricted03:46
larson9999so what line do i need in my sources list?03:47
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roadrunner_um... weird... it says this nickname is already registered03:47
roadrunner_but it won't let me talk to people privately >_<03:47
roadrunner_anyone else ever have this problem?03:47
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focker"/msg nickserv identify <your-password>"03:48
larson9999i have a line that says 'main restricted multiverse'03:48
Healotroadrunner_: registered by you or someone else?03:48
fockerwhatever passord you used last time03:48
fockerpassword03:48
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roadrunner_it was registered by me about 30 minutes ago, lol03:49
roadrunner_and I was chatting with Focker fine, then it randomly stopped03:49
Healot"deb <url> dapper" line >> larson9999 ?03:49
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fockerroadrunner_: you sent too much info at once03:49
roadrunner_yeah... I figured03:50
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fockerhaha03:50
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ssshey guys03:50
roadrunner_ok, thanks03:50
fockerroadrunner_: so easy ubuntu pooped out on you03:50
AshexI'm looking to hook up my palm pilot to me computer, anyone know of documentation about connecting it?03:50
ssshow can i change the resolution?03:50
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fockerAshex: search for stuff on jpilot03:51
Ashexsss, kmenu>system settings>display03:51
Ashexthanks focker03:51
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fiyawerx!kano03:52
ubotuI know nothing about kano03:52
fiyawerxyeah, thats what happens when you move your fingers over one spot03:52
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fiyawerx!lamp03:52
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP03:52
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sssashex,no this item,why ?03:53
Ashexsss, what do you mean?03:53
Ashexelaborate a little more03:53
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sssashex ,i mean ,no this item in my kmenu03:53
Ashexyou can also use ctrl+alt with -/+ to change resolutions03:53
Ashexyou don't have the system settings button?03:54
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sssashex,i have system setting button ,but no display setting in it ,so strange03:54
Ashexsss, look under hardware in the system settings window03:55
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AshexGrr03:56
AshexI know of have at least 5 mini-usb cables for my palm pilot in my room03:56
Ashexyet I can't find any of them03:56
sssashex ,i got a kde 3.5 ,u?03:56
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Ashexyep, 3.503:56
OODit's there it's the second last icon under hardware03:57
OODyou can't miss it03:57
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Ashexsss, did you click the system settings button?03:57
Ashexit's not a menu03:57
sssi just cant find the window u said03:57
sssashex ,yea ,and there a submenu,but no display setting there03:58
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Ashexsss, I'm not talking about the system menu03:58
Ashexthere's a button below that called "System Settings"03:58
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larson9999Healot: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted multiverse04:00
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CornelliusAnyone tried that thing that let you use Gmail account as a FileSystem ?04:01
sssashex,well ,i didnt see it:(04:01
Healotgfs? my dsl bs is slow... wont bother as disk resource is abundant04:02
Fiyawerxhey guys, if i change my server root in /etc/apache2/conf file, i can just move the whole directory to where i want it right? or is there a way to auto-rebuild the conf04:02
Ashexsss, look harder04:05
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burepeIs there a way to check 2 identical folders for discrepencies? what files are missing or what not?04:06
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OODsss: http://img328.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot51it.jpg04:06
sssis there a way i can send u my menu pic?04:06
OODi just did04:06
v0taguzexist any other web with the style of Kde - look ??04:07
ssswell,guys ,the menu in your address is different from mine04:10
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OODwhat distro you running?04:10
Fiyawerx!lamp04:10
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP04:10
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larson9999here is my sources list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16909.  what do i need to add/change so i can install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?04:11
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josephIs it possible to have a different wallpaper for each of the four desktops??04:13
Healotyes...04:13
josephhow!?04:14
HealotKDE menu -> System Settings - >Desktop04:14
HealotClick on Background, next select the desktop you want to change the back ground04:15
ssshealot ,OOD, r u talking to me?04:15
OODsss: i was, yes04:15
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sssOOD ,i just using kde3.504:16
josephwhere is kde menu04:16
sssis there a way i can send my menu pic to u?04:17
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OODsss: make a screenshot and upload it to imageshack.us04:17
OODand give me the link04:18
Healotat the so-called Panel... see the K? joseph04:18
josephwell Im running defaul gnome04:18
josephdefault04:18
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josephDo i need to start up in kubuntu?04:18
larson9999aha it says i need to add restricted to the security source04:19
Healotjoseph: #kubuntu see04:19
josephhuh?04:20
Healot#ubuntu for GNOME question, really, the same OS but different desktop :)04:20
josephI have kubuntu installed though04:20
josephand gnome wont let me04:20
sssOOD,how can i make a screenshot of menu ?04:20
fockerkscreenshot04:20
Healotjoseph: you can change the desktop before logging in04:20
OODprint screen button on your keyboard04:20
josephI know04:20
fockerand then open the menu04:20
josephBRB then04:20
Healotbleh...04:20
Healotis it appropriate to ask GNOME questions in here, or it is just fine to answer?04:21
larson9999ubuntu drives me nuts enough on security.  debian is worse(or better depending on your view) i suppose04:21
Healotsecurity in what sense?04:22
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larson9999Healot: stuff being turned off by default for security reasons.  cups for instance.04:23
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Healotwell, it is better?04:24
larson9999Healot: all good things i suppose.  i'm just not very security conscious04:24
Healotbecause most of ubuntu users don't have networking environment...04:24
LeeJunFanthat (cups) is annoying. Especially if you are trying to setup a print server w/o a GUI.04:24
larson9999Healot: just several things that were turned off  by default compare to mandriva which i used for years.04:25
Healot I use a Windows Server 2003 printer server instead04:25
HealotCUPS? heh04:25
larson9999well cups works great here.  just had to figure out how to enable it.04:27
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LeeJunFanHealot: what sucks is that you need a gui to do everything on windows, when you have to remote admin stuff possibly from a location where the only internet connection you can get is a crappy 9600bps cellphone connection, windows will really piss you off.04:27
larson9999Healot: most ubuntu users don't have a network environment?  what definition of network are you using?04:28
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larson9999ok. looks like i might have glx now.  lets see.04:29
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chxhi, i have two ISPs and would like to load balance. I am looking at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html where should i put these commands w/ Dapper?04:31
HealotLeeJunFan: to me, it doesn;t04:31
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Healoti don't have crappy phone line, i don't have crappy old network.04:32
sssOOD,i cant print it04:32
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Healotchx: you want to load balancing on the router itself or on the networked PC's04:35
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ArcliteI received my ShipIt CDs today, and they don't boot.04:37
Healot/etc/iproute2/rt_tables << this the files that you need to put the route and load balancing commands04:37
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ArcliteThe kernel loads, it appears, then it goes to a graphical loading screen, finishes there (all "ok"), and goes black. Next thing I know, I get the "kubuntu" splash and loading bar again. From there, nothing happens.04:38
ArcliteIt's just stuck right like that04:38
sssOOD,r u there04:39
chxHealot: i only have one desktop pc04:39
chxHealot: so i guess the answer is "the route itself"04:39
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ssslets forget the resolution problem04:40
OODsss: run kcontrol04:40
sssanother question ,how can i make  the system bar04:40
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larson9999for something so easy that took forever04:43
sssOOD?04:43
sssanother question ,how can i make  the system bar04:43
OODwhat do you mean make?04:43
chxnalioth: hi04:43
Healotchx: you don't need load balancing with one to one network04:44
naliothhowdy y'all04:44
sssthere is no system bar now04:44
Healotunless you have multiple routes, then load balancing might be needed04:44
chxHealot: i have two ISPs04:44
chxHealot: and would like to utilize somewhat both04:44
chxHealot: currently.... when one of them dies, I do a manual ifdown eth1; ifup eth204:44
ssswhre can i get the system bar?04:45
robotgeeksss: alt + f2, kdepanel (not sure)  maybe?04:45
Healotchx: then you may need load balancing04:45
Fiyawerxok, just for the record, setting up apache/php/mysql was scary easy04:45
h3sp4wnchx: Even with load balancing if one goes down active connections won't be switched to the other one04:45
chxdarn04:45
chxwelll no darn04:46
sssrobotgeek,alt+f2 will  run command04:46
chxi know04:46
chxi'd like to see a config where if I shut down the connection and open a new one, then it won't try the failed one04:46
chxhere, 'failed' is rather complex -- it should mean 'the default gw does not ping'04:46
chxbecause eth won't go down04:47
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ssshow can i get the system bar?04:50
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sssthe system bar disappeared04:50
chxlook closely04:50
ChefWillrestart x04:51
chxthere is a small rectangle with an arrow in it04:51
LeeJunFanchx: you'd pretty much need to write a script like if ! `ping [gw] ` ; then ip route change default via [new gw]  ; done04:51
ChefWill;/04:51
chx(if you closed)04:51
ChefWillyou minimized it04:51
ChefWillclick the arrow04:51
chxyes, that's what I thought04:51
chxit's possible that Kicker (am I right?) crashed but more likely you managed to minimize it04:51
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LeeJunFanchx: of course it'll be a little more complex than that like ping -c 3 or something, so it wouldn't just ping infinately.04:52
ssschefwill, what mean of "/"?04:52
chxsss: that's a smiley04:52
ChefWilllol04:52
sssmmmm04:52
sssi didnt mimimize it04:52
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ChefWillrestartx!04:53
ssswhefwill ,ok04:53
nrdbI am using dapper I was wondering why 3 packages are listed as upgradable but aren't being upgraded?  the packages are 'gtk-imlib1' 'libpt-plugins-alsa' and 'libpt-plugins-v4l'04:53
aeon17xI'm getting the 'can't open default user face' in my system log04:53
ChefWillhit apply nrdb04:53
aeon17xIs there any way to fix that?04:53
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sssby the way ,any method can i just restartx but the apps still run?04:53
josephdoes anyone use amarok here?04:54
ChefWillyes04:54
nrdbChefWill: but when I do nothing happens04:54
josephHow do you get it so the playlist doesnt keep adding songs when another is done??04:54
ChefWillask in #amarok04:54
josephOh04:54
josephI didnt know they had an irc04:55
ChefWillmhm04:55
sss?04:55
ChefWillnot really sss04:55
LeeJunFannrdb: generally that happens if something those packages depend on is not available. Or it requires installing a package you don't have installed, in which case you need to do apt-get dist-upgrade.04:55
sssok,chefwill04:55
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aeon17xIt also has this memory courrption message in the log.04:56
aeon17xWhich is a bit scary04:56
nrdbLeeJunFan: that doesn't do anything ether.04:56
nrdbLeeJunFan: it just says they are getting help back04:57
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chxHmmmm it would be so very cool if there would be an X server trickery like screen for console04:57
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h3sp4wnvnc ?04:59
chxslow04:59
chxI am looking at NX04:59
h3sp4wnYou can't connect to the same session04:59
ssschefwill,still no system bar05:00
h3sp4wn(to the console sorry)05:00
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larson9999nx is pretty fast here05:03
aeon17xanyone?05:03
larson9999nx is the best free solution for logging in from windows i know of05:04
chxlarson9999: and would it be possible to create an X session locally, detach it somehow (reattach to some virtual X??) and restart X?05:05
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larson9999chx: errr, what?  i just use it as an xwindows to log in from windows if i have to.05:06
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chxlarson9999: what I would like to do is reconfigure X or kernel for that matter and restart in such a way that applications stay running05:07
chxhm, not the kernel05:07
chxonly X :)05:07
larson9999oh, i think you can do that.05:08
robotgeekscreen :)05:08
chxscreen...?05:08
chxwith X?05:08
robotgeeksorry for spamming05:08
Healotkilling X kills all the app that need X05:09
robotgeekchx: i am also very enthusiastic about screen :)05:09
Healotbtw "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"05:09
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chxHealot: now, you see, this "killing X kills all the app that need X" I would like to avoid by using any combination of virtual X server (once I saw that, for servers), nest, freenx and whatever else :)05:10
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sotiredboom05:18
sotiredhey quick question05:18
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sotiredis there a way to enable dragging between desktops like gnome in kde?05:19
johnfluxsotired: what exactly do you want to drag between?05:19
h3sp4wnIts enabled by default (just move them using the pager)05:19
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sotiredhuh?05:19
sotiredyou know, like drag a window off screen and it throws it over to the next virtual desktop05:20
sotiredi know i can do it from the panel05:20
sotiredbut i mean an actual window05:20
h3sp4wnI don't see any reason why you would not just do it from the panel05:20
sotiredits a force of habit from using gnome, i was just hoping there was a way to do it in kde05:21
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johnfluxsotired: you want to be able to drag a window between desktops?05:21
sotiredi think fluxbox is the same way05:21
sotiredyeh05:21
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johnfluxsotired: lemme check05:21
sotiredok, thnx05:22
johnfluxsotired: did you have a look in kcontrol?05:22
sotiredi poked around for a bit05:22
sotiredill check again05:22
HealotI need a distraction a bit. I am going to Hong Kong next week. Should I find a hoe during my days off?05:22
khaije1it's called active borders05:22
johnfluxsotired: I think what you want is in Window Behavour05:22
johnfluxsotired: what khaije1 said.  chose active desktop borders under advanced05:23
khaije1i only have xubuntu in front of me atm so i'm not sure where it is but window behavior sounds rights :-)05:23
johnfluxsotired: chose either 'always' or 'own when dragging windows'05:23
sotiredown? haha05:24
khaije1there is a timer too so you can customize it05:24
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johnfluxsotired: only heh05:24
johnfluxsotired: sorry its' 4am heh05:24
sotiredthats it05:24
khaije1sotired: is the lan-gamez setting05:24
sotiredthanks guts05:24
sotiredwhere are you? its 11:25 pm here05:24
sotiredha05:24
johnfluxuk05:24
sotiredi c05:25
johnflux4:23am :)05:25
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OOD11:25 same05:25
sotiredwhat the hell are you doing on irc...go to bed!05:25
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sotiredood: east coast?05:26
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h3sp4wn4:28am here ( I hope)05:26
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sotiredheh05:27
OODsotired: yea05:27
sotired<---philadelphia here05:27
OODOntario, Canada :D05:28
sotiredoooh,....i love canafa05:28
sotiredcanada even05:28
OODlol05:28
sotiredi've only been to montreal05:28
sotiredbut it was wonderful05:28
OODeh montreal sucks, too much french :P05:28
sotiredyeh...lots of french and no drinking in the casino...but in general the people seemed to be much more tolerant than in the states05:29
sotiredbut i only spent a month there05:29
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sotiredi dont know if anyone was here earlier, but iw as trying all day to conver xvids to dvd. I think i've decided on a solution05:30
sotiredbut it may not work.05:30
OODyea i remember, you have a solution?05:30
sotiredI'll try using the app i used to use in m$ with wine05:30
sotiredi have no experiance with wine whatsoever...05:31
Healotis it true that there are some anglophone French-Canadian?05:31
sotiredis it slow?05:31
HealotWINE, some compatibility issues, but not speed05:31
sotiredif i knew what an anglophone was, id answer it05:31
OODdepends on the program, some programs work just as good or better than in windows, some dont at all05:31
sotiredim going to go ahead and give it a shot05:31
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sotiredill give live updates from the battelfront :)05:32
OODHealot: you mean french people with a uk accent?05:32
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HealotFrench-Canadian that speaks only English?05:32
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sotiredmost people i met spoke english as well as french...05:33
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jerryhi05:33
sotiredhi jerry05:33
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OODmost people know both05:33
sotiredmmmm...freedom fires05:34
sotired*fries05:34
Healotcool, now I know why UN voted Canada as the best place to live in this world05:34
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indierossok im a total noob and need some help installing this kernel module ntfs package05:34
OODyou need this to read ntfs drives?05:35
jerryI am trying to make this program but I keep getting errors05:35
indierossyeah05:35
OODyou don't need it05:35
indierossi dont?05:35
OODno05:35
sotired@OOD qft05:35
indierosshow do i access it05:35
OODgive me a sec, ill find the how-to i don't rememver the comamnd by heart :P05:35
sotiredmount it...mount as hard as you can05:35
sotiredsry...im done05:36
indierosshaha05:36
johnfluxsotired: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/205821905:36
johnfluxsotired: I've used that sort of thing before05:36
sotiredthank you johnflux. We actually tried that earlier a few different ways and came up with useless fubar05:37
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sotiredbut thanks anyway05:37
sotiredi just grabbed wine and im going to see if this works out for me05:37
johnfluxheh05:37
OODindieross: damm i had it bookmarked but i did a clean install05:38
indierossahh i see05:38
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indierosswell anyway how do i install packages05:39
indierossim totally lost05:39
Healot!ntfs05:39
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions05:39
Healotfor a debian package "dpkg -i filename"05:39
indierossoh cool thanks alot05:39
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Healotfor rpm and others05:39
Healot!alien05:39
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).05:39
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indierossok05:40
Healotindieross: btw, are you using Fedora Core?05:40
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Healotor used it before05:40
OODindieross: found it, just search ntfs, it's a long page :) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only05:40
indierossim useing kubuntu05:40
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dr_willisubuntu and kubuntu are the same. :P05:41
dr_williswell at the core level they are. :)05:41
indierossi wanted to use ubuntu but my windows messed up up so i just got the kubuntu cd's sent to me so thats what im using05:41
sotiredhttp://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=vso_DivXtoDVD05:42
sotired!!!!!!!!05:42
ubotuI know nothing about !!!!!!!05:42
sotiredw00t05:42
sotiredthat page says my prog will work w/wine05:42
sotiredand it only took me 16 hours to come to that conclusion!05:42
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OODnot bad :P05:43
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earHertzunder kde, what's the GUI app for setting up samba shares?05:45
Hobbsee_phoneearHertz: konqueror?05:45
sotiredkonqeuer05:45
sotiredbeat me to it and spelled it right...05:45
nixternal"kmenu > system settings > sharing"05:45
dr_willisSWAT is the web interface to samba05:46
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dr_willisive also used webmin befor.05:46
dr_willisbut samba is easially configrued with a text editor and some knowhow :)05:46
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earHertzthanks guys05:47
sotiredso if im going to use an app with wine, i run the installer like this- wine installer.exe ?05:47
OODor just double click it if it's on your desktop05:48
dr_willissotired,  bingo!05:48
dr_willisdont do the double clicking thang. :P be a man! use the shell05:48
sotiredit just feels wrong runnign a windows app in linux...this islike a whole enw realm to me05:48
sotired@dr_willis hahaha05:49
OODlol05:49
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sotiredwhen i decided to switch i figured i would just use OSS alternatives05:49
dr_willissotired,  i tend to use winrar under linux  quite a bit.05:50
sotiredive been using nvu for my web stuff, just as good as that other $400 piece of junk iwas using...dreamweaver05:50
dr_willisand with wine. i can completely remove/reinstall winrar every 30 days. :)05:50
OODi use wine since there are no open source alternatives to a few games and FL Studio (best muisc program eva! :D)05:50
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sotiredreally? i've been using ark and 7-zip. what does winrar do that those dont?05:50
OODhows you get winrar to work, it refuses to work for me05:51
dr_willisIt has some features i like.. like convert all files in a dir to individual zips for one05:51
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sotiredohh, i see05:51
dr_willisgood for game roms. and disk images for emulators05:51
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sotiredso, with wine installed, if i click ona windows exe, it automatically calls up wine?05:51
dr_willisOOD, i do tend to us ecedega instead of the normal wine.. not sure if theres a diff.05:51
dr_willissotired,  perhaps.. thats why its best to use the shell05:52
HealotOOD: tried 7zip yet05:52
sotiredi use my dreamcast for nes and mame emu's :)05:52
Healotit rips rar's behind05:52
dr_williswine and the installer may need some extra options to work right05:52
dr_willisHealot, 7zip is lacking in some ways i find.05:52
sotiredok...here goes05:52
dr_willisbut it depends on your needs.05:52
OODcedega only plays games, wine can run so many other programs05:52
OODHealot: i tried it before and it didn't work05:53
Healotyou whiners05:53
sotiredi made a new foldr on my desktop, i can see it in a shell, but not onscreen, even after a refresh...what gives?05:53
dr_willisOOD,  cedega does not 'ONLY PLAY GAMES' i use it only to run apps mainly. :P05:53
dr_willisive never nopticed anything wine runs that cedega cant.05:53
sotiredpermisions issue?05:53
OODdr_willis: really? what else does it run?05:53
Healotcedega is WINE/// with more DX support and some other bs05:54
dr_willisOOD,  anything wine can run.05:54
dr_willisits based on the same code05:54
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dr_willisi use it to run winrar for one. :P05:54
dr_willisand some other tools i like.05:54
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OODit was a few years ago, but cedega has very different code now, they don't even use the registry05:54
HealotI'll for Windows to run Windows application05:54
HawkwindWhy not just use rar/unrar that's available for Linux ?05:54
OODdual-booting sucks though05:54
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Healotwhy bother with WINE... even it isn't an emulator05:54
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sotiredomg...its a windows window in kde05:55
dr_willisHealot,  thats a good thing. :P05:55
sotiredi think i just pooped05:55
stephan__hi05:55
dr_williswhy bother with comptuers..05:55
dr_willisHowdy05:55
jerryI have a question05:55
stephan__i had a real problem, just installed kubuntu and resized my ntfs partition with the setup05:55
sotireduhh...stupid question.. what path should i give the installer? it want sto goto c:\program files05:55
stephan__but there is no option in grub to select the win install to boot, so i added one05:56
dr_willissotired,  normally wine makes a 'fake windows' directory in your home dir some where.05:56
OODwherever you want, but there's already a fake c:\ drive in .wine in your home directory05:56
sotiredok...thanks dr05:56
Healot./wine/<drive>/path05:56
stephan__but i trie all 0,0 0,1 0,2 a so on05:56
dr_williscedega and wine may also do a seperate fake-windows dir. for each installed program.05:56
stephan__but it cant't boot05:56
sotiredomg it worked05:56
OODyep05:57
stephan__can anybody guess if my data is gone?05:57
OODamazing isn't it :D05:57
dr_willisive seen that used a lot to keep all programs seperate.05:57
sotiredyes05:57
dr_williswell night all.05:57
jerryis there any program that will allow me to connect to a BBS through Telnet and when something like "Global: plus someone entering a message" that it gets parsed to a different window? + auto reconnect on disconnect?05:57
sotiredg'night dr_willis05:57
sotiredbbs? reminds me of childhood05:57
sotiredrocking the 9600 baud05:57
jerrywell for MUD05:57
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HawkwindLOL @ 9600.  That was way down the road.  I remember 300baud quite well05:58
jerryI tried KMC but I can't seem to get make to work05:58
sotiredi wasnt born yet...05:58
stephan__i'm a bit frustrated, should parted recognize ntfs patitions?05:58
jerrywhat's 300 baud like?05:58
sotiredor old enough to type at leat05:58
HealotI still use 9600 to access CISCO routers05:58
Hawkwindsotired: Ok, so I'm showing my age :P05:58
Healotthe rest are 100Mbps and above... f*** :)05:58
sotiredi remember being the man wiht my 56k "how could it ever get faster than this?!?!?!"05:58
h3sp4wnHealot: Any routers I need to config I just change the baud rate to 11520005:59
earHertzcrap. I guesss I need to edit sdamba.conf?05:59
claydohhey Hawkwind did you ever figure out your bittorrent/router problems?05:59
sotiredyay!!!! its converting!!!05:59
sotiredw00t05:59
sotiredthere was someone else earlier trying to achieve the sam as me...05:59
OOD<B Wine05:59
Hawkwindclaydoh: Yes and no.  I got 2 sites to work, but the one I really want it to work with, it won't work.05:59
claydoh:(05:59
Healotdon't need that speed for router console though06:00
Hawkwindclaydoh: Well, bittorrent won't work on any of them.  ktorrent works for 2 of them06:00
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wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".06:00
claydohHawkwind: I might suggest trying out ktorrent 2.0beta06:02
claydohhttp://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads06:02
claydohit might work better for you06:02
claydohuse the breezy deb, it has worked well for me in Dapper06:03
sotiredok...goodnight everyone...a round of nexuiz and sleepy time!06:03
OODlater06:03
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Healothe reaally means it06:04
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jerrywow is there any way to turn off the font on my computer06:04
jerryoh nm that was the outside fan06:05
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jerryI still can't get kmc to make06:05
stephan__no tip about my possibly lost ntfs partition?06:05
stephan__what can i try?06:05
Hawkwindclaydoh: dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):06:06
Hawkwind trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data06:06
jerryIs there any way to use the window and that button that looks like a pointer and a menu box?06:06
Hawkwindclaydoh: That's when I tried to install the 2.0beta ktorrent just now with dpkg06:06
jerryactually just the window key06:06
claydohoh, yeah I hadda force it06:06
Hawkwindclaydoh: How do you force something with dpkg ?06:06
HawkwindJust -f ?06:06
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claydohsudo dpkg -i --force all foo.deb06:07
claydohor was it --force -all?06:07
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indierossi sork of have my ntfs disks mounted but it wont let me access files06:08
indierosssort*06:08
indierossi can see them but that about it06:08
Hawkwindindieross: Permission problem ?06:08
indierossi think so06:08
OODyou can't write to an ntfs drive if that's what you mean06:08
claydohsudo dpkg -i --force-all foo.deb06:08
indierossno i just want to access the files06:08
wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".06:08
HawkwindOOD: Good catch. I read that NTFS as NFS actually :P06:09
claydohcorrupted iso/disk/bad burn?06:09
OODlol06:09
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indierossoh snap that might be it06:09
Hawkwindclaydoh: Thanks :)06:09
wooclaydoh: I've burned it a couple times, different ISO's - different CD's.06:10
indierossbut anyways how do i fix the permission problems?06:10
claydohold man is loosing his memory already06:10
indierossthay arent passwd protected06:10
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jerryHi06:10
jerryI have a question06:10
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claydoh*this* old man, rather06:10
jerryI'm trying to run something that requires Tcl06:11
ArcliteI'm having a problem booting from the Live CD. The kernel loads, it appears, then it goes to a graphical loading screen, finishes there (all "ok"), and goes black. Next thing I know, I get the "kubuntu" splash and loading bar again. From there, nothing happens.06:11
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jerry!Tcl06:11
ubotuI know nothing about Tcl06:11
indierossim gonna restart and try to fix the problem06:12
indierosspeace06:12
ArcliteDoes anyone know if that's a known problem? I've searched the forums and the wiki. Nothing.06:12
Hawkwindjerry: So install tcl maybe ?06:12
Hawkwindjerry: apt-cache search tcl  will give you a list of tcl packages you might want/need06:13
OODalright im out, night06:16
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Healotevery drunkards out of here06:17
Healot!find tcl06:17
ubotuFound: expect-tcl8.3, libdb4.2-tcl, libdb4.3-tcl, libpgtcl-dev, libpgtcl1.5 (and 81 others)06:17
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jerryoh I found it thanks :006:17
jerry:)06:17
jerrylol06:17
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indierossokay now i need help installing a tar.gz file06:22
Hobbsee!compile06:22
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)06:22
Hobbseeindieross: what package?06:22
indierossits flash06:23
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Healotfollow the instruction at Adobe dl page06:23
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Hobbsee!flash06:24
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:24
Healotwell, unpack the tarball, then cd the directory it created... next type ./install* (to run it silly)...06:24
Hobbseeindieross: flash is covered in that top link06:24
indierossok cool06:24
indierossdoes jubuntu natively support .mp3 and .m4a?06:25
indierosskubuntu*06:26
Healotwith !libxine-extracodecs most MPEG audio/video are supported06:27
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HealotAAC/MPEG-4 audio? humm... need other thing for that06:27
indierosswhere do i get !libxine-extracodecs06:28
Hobbsee!multiverse06:28
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:28
indierossso would that also be found in kubuntu06:29
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Healot!wonderful world of disneyland06:32
ubotuI know nothing about wonderful world of disneyland06:32
indierossokay i got the package for the codecs and its a .deb file how do i install/compile it06:34
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sotiredcant sleep06:44
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sotiredi just want to thank everyone in here. I've been addicted to the internet for years, and the linux community (kubuntu namely) is by far the most helpful and freindly place i have seen in a long time06:46
sotiredand no, im not drunk06:47
sotiredwell, a little bit :)06:47
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wordI have a GeForce 6800 and the newest..not the second newest..nvidia-glx package causes the bottom half inch of my screen to appear like a tv does when the channel is fuzzy. :-/06:51
wordBut only when an application with a white background is in full screen06:52
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I start dekorator?07:00
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jerryhi07:04
jerryI have a question07:04
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dumbkiwijerry: no one can answer an unasked question ...07:05
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jerryI am looking for something that will let me connect to a telnet BBS with MUD and that will parse lines with particular information like "Global: this is a message someone is sending with global" to a seperate window. Also have auto connect on disconnect.07:06
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jerryok I'm trying to run an eggdrop but it says while executing "! /home/jerry/eggdrop (file "eggdrop.conf" line 1) * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)07:09
Cornelliusjerry: Try #ubuntu too07:11
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arsohey guys07:18
arsois thre an active firewall in kubuntu or something07:18
osirisjerry, cd into the eggdrop dir07:18
arsocoz my internet is really faster in windows07:18
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arsoits so slow here07:18
uranoswenas noches alguin que me de los repositoriia07:18
jerryok07:19
osiristhen do ./eggdrop07:19
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KaiserSusearso: is it always slow or just when opening sites? (I'm assuming you're talking about web browsing)07:20
arsoKaiserSuse:  so far , only web browsing,07:21
arsoKaiserSuse:  havent been downloading much YET07:21
KaiserSusearso: google for disabling IPv6 in kubuntu (KDE) and try again07:22
arsoKaiserSuse:  k thnx07:24
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arsoKaiserSuse:  this looks good?07:26
KaiserSusearso: what?07:27
arsoKaiserSuse:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8779807:28
arsoKaiserSuse:  omg, sorry, forgot to add link lol07:28
arsoKaiserSuse:  but when i write the commands, they say wrong command07:28
KaiserSusearso: hold a sec07:28
arsoKaiserSuse:  k, oh i think theyre not commands, have to add some lines to a file07:29
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krinnshelo07:29
krinnsany one works on failover on ltsp07:29
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KaiserSusearso: those commands are not to be typed into a terminal... enter them in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/aliases)07:32
arsok thnx07:33
jerryis there something wrong with # !/home/dan/eggdrop/ or ! /home/dan/eggdrop/07:33
arsoKaiserSuse:  just add them to the end?07:33
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KaiserSusearso: no, look for the line that has "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" and comment it out (put a # in front of it.) Then, below add the other three lines07:34
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indierosscan someone tell me how to install a .deb file in kubuntu07:35
KaiserSuseindieross: dpkg -i <package>07:35
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indierossit didnt work07:38
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indierosssyntax error near unexpected token `newline'07:39
DjDarkmanhy ,I just wanted to install dekorator 0.3 and got this error07:39
DjDarkmandpkg: error processing kde-dekorator-0.3-ubuntu_0.3-1_i386.deb (--install):07:39
DjDarkman trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kwin3_deKorator.la', which is also in package dekorator07:39
DjDarkmanErrors were encountered while processing:07:39
DjDarkmanwhat should I do now?07:39
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DjDarkmanwhat does that mean?07:41
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arsoKaiserSuse:  does this look right please :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692507:42
indierossis there any other way to install the deb package?07:42
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TheHighChildindieross: 'sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb'07:47
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KaiserSusearso: looks right to me :) But you should reboot now, I'm afraid. Other thing you might try, related to that is (as root) echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment07:47
arsoKaiserSuse:  paste al that in a terminal? "echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment"07:49
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arsoKaiserSuse_:  ? plz07:53
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TheHighChildarso: yes07:53
KaiserSusearso: sorry, what?07:53
arsoKaiserSuse:  do i paste07:53
arsoKaiserSuse:  "echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment" into terminal?07:53
TheHighChildcopy with ctrl +c and paste into the terminal with shift + insert07:53
arsook thnx TheHighChild07:54
KaiserSusearso: yup, as root(or just sudo it)07:54
arsostill getting access denied07:54
arsoeven with sudo07:54
arsoor with "sudo -v" then that07:54
TheHighChildI usually tell people commands with out the sudo, I figure if they can'tfigure it out, F'em07:54
TheHighChildarso 'sudo -i'07:55
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arsooh07:55
arsothanx07:55
TheHighChildThat puts you into a root environment07:55
arsohow come no need for pass07:55
arsook done07:55
TheHighChildthen 'exit' or better yet 'sudo -k'07:55
TheHighChildto leave07:55
arsok07:55
arsothnx07:55
arsoso wat does sudo -v do?07:56
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TheHighChildarso: There is a time delay on sudo, if you enter your pass, it times out at some point but not immediately07:56
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ph4t-ph4nt0manyone know where a hardware seeker/installer is in Kubuntu Dapper?07:56
arsoi see thnx07:56
TheHighChildarso: Dunno, do 'man sudo' use page up and page down and q to quit07:56
KaiserSusearso: open konqueror and try this for URL: man:sudo07:56
TheHighChildph4t-ph4nt0m: seeker?07:57
arsoi didnt restart yet btw07:57
koshKaiserSuse: heh that was the one I was about to paste in07:57
arsoi am KaiserSuse07:57
arsoin*07:57
koshalso if you want to do you can do alt-f2: man:sudo07:57
ph4t-ph4nt0myeah,  my dapper installation lost my MCP51 chipset netwrok card.  lspci sees it, but it doesn't show up in the network config window.07:57
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koshthat will open a new konqueror window to the sudo manpage07:57
TheHighChildph4t-ph4nt0m: You see the device?07:58
ph4t-ph4nt0mit's an integrated chipset on my nforce board that uses the nvnet driver...07:58
ph4t-ph4nt0mryes.07:58
ph4t-ph4nt0myes07:58
ph4t-ph4nt0min lspci07:58
arsoso wat do i do there? in man:sudo07:58
arsoohhh07:58
ph4t-ph4nt0mi see the device.07:58
arsoread07:58
KaiserSusearso: for all those changes to take effect you should restart yer peecee07:59
TheHighChildarso: man pages are like a manual for a command. You can check man pages for most commands. I was just suggestin that as a method to find what the v option does07:59
ph4t-ph4nt0mbut Dapper lost it in the network config window.  i had it then i had a power outage.  then it lost it at next boot.07:59
arsohai!07:59
KaiserSusearso: yup, that's a nice interface for the man pages07:59
arsooh ok, so are their man pages for everything?07:59
ph4t-ph4nt0mi know it's not fried, since Mandriva still uses it with no probs.07:59
TheHighChildarso: mostly but not everything and some are severely lacking08:00
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KaiserSuseTheHighChild: yup, Linux ain't no OpenBSD not solaris in that respect08:00
TheHighChildarso: some are incredibly complex on the other hand. If you're checking them out in the terminal, you might want to use 'grep' it's a way to pull a string from a text file. So you can do 'man sudo |grep -v'08:00
TheHighChildKaiserSuse: Yeah but those other OS's aren't for the Universe of computing needs.08:01
ph4t-ph4nt0m my setup is perfect with Dapper, so i don't want to reformat just for my nic.  i need to find a way to reinstall the nic without reformat.08:02
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TheHighChildWith a fast evolving OS, documentation gets lost out to google cached newsgroup postings08:02
TheHighChildwell gents, the hot tub awaits. take care08:05
ph4t-ph4nt0mTheHighChild --> you got any idea on what's wrong and what i should do?08:07
arsoTheHighChild:  umm wats the "|" for?08:08
ph4t-ph4nt0m| is a pipe08:08
arsopipe?08:08
arsook brb i'll restart08:09
arsointeresting world, this linux08:09
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arsowow, its way faster08:13
KaiserSusearso: see?08:13
arsoya08:14
arsois this only for browsing?08:14
arsois there any other thing for downloading or torrents or something08:14
KaiserSusearso: of course, you will not be able to use IPv6 now. I think you will have to change that back in, say, 15 years08:14
KaiserSusearso: those changes are global (except the one with KDE in it)08:15
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arsoKaiserSuse:  issssee08:16
ubuntuhewwo08:16
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arsoKaiserSuse:   does this only work for firefox ,or kunque too?08:17
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KaiserSusearso: I *think* it works for everything. I can't try that since I'm on dialup. But why don't you go ahead and open firefox and tell us?08:19
arsoKaiserSuse:  it seems faster with firefox08:20
wizpig64mkay, heres the scoop. im installing kubuntu for the first time, and i dont want to get rid of my windows data. i created partitions especially for kubuntu next to my windows partitions. when i get to the "Prepare mount points" section of the install, it wants me to mount my windows partitions as "/media/sda1." will this not harm my windows install? is it safe?08:20
wizpig64yarg, sorry bout the long post08:20
zardozsweet got twinview working...08:21
wizpig64can anyone help :(?08:22
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koshwizpig64: sorry I have not looked at the installer in a long time, my guess is that it should be perfectly okay since it knows it it putting it under /media but I can not absolutely confirm that08:22
koshwizpig64: however if your windows system is done with ntfs it is better not to mount it08:23
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koshwizpig64: read only is fairly safe but read/write is not safe08:23
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wizpig64thanks :)08:23
lowtechwizpig64: sda1 is the first partition on a scsi or usb drive, i believe08:24
koshif you want to share files between linux and windows the best idea is to use a fat device of some kind08:24
wizpig64mkay08:24
koshit can be a partition, usb flash drive etc08:24
|lostbyte|wizpig64, looks like you are using an external drive. Its safe to mount as it simply mounts.. and windows is very keen for any changes to its system files..08:24
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koshlowtech: it can be an sata drive also08:24
koshlowtech: sata uses the scsi device names08:24
lowtechkosh: ah yes, thanks08:24
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koshheck eventually ide will use the scsi devices names08:24
wizpig64im not using an external drive, ive got 2 internal drives. im putting Kubuntu on the secondary one08:24
koshsince hte ide stuff is supposed to be rewritten08:25
koshwizpig64: my guess is you are using sata right?08:25
wizpig64yea08:25
|lostbyte|wizpig64, sata ?08:25
wizpig64yea..08:25
wizpig64kosh: yes08:25
lowtechsda would the primary, sdb would be secondary08:25
zardozwizpig64: I turned off my windows drive when loading. and keep it off till Ai have to use it...08:26
wizpig64yea, i have some in sdb, some in sda08:26
wizpig64turn it off as in manually unplug it?08:26
zardoznope in the bios08:26
wizpig64ok08:26
zardozdisabled the port08:26
wizpig64right08:26
zardozthat way the system does not even see it08:27
koshI have never lost anything before in windows when working with linux for about 10 years now however the only thing I use windows for is games so even if all the windows partitions completely died it would just mean reinstalling stuff from cd but no loss of data08:27
zardozyeah I am using windows for games08:27
koshzardoz: that is not a very good idea if you have windows as the first drive and remove it with linux on the second drive, it will change the device enumeration08:27
|lostbyte|I use wine for games.08:28
koshzardoz: which means the new drive will be sda most likely since it will be the only sata drive but it will become sdb when the windows drive is plugged back in, at that point linux will no longer boot without knowing how to fix it08:28
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koshwine does not work for the games I play08:28
zardozkosh: nope... if it's off the linux drive looks like the first drive08:28
zardozand the same goes when I turn off the linux drive and turn on the Windows drive...08:29
lowtechsounds like a pain having to go into the bios every time you want to use another OS08:29
koshah so you never run them at the same time08:29
wizpig64no, i have my C: drive as my windows install, and the first part of my F: drive for just data (music, torrents). i took a chunk of the F drive and partitioned it to both a linux-swap partition and a linux partition08:29
zardozI never have both on at the same time08:29
koshif you tried to run both at the same time it would cause a problem08:29
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zardoztrue, but I dont do that ( that would be crossing the streems and thats bad)08:30
wordI have a GeForce 6800 and the newest..not the second newest..nvidia-glx package causes the bottom half inch of my screen to appear like a tv does when the channel is fuzzy. :-/08:30
wordBut only when an application with a white background is in full screen08:30
unix_infideldo i need to port forward to for bit torrent?08:30
zardozunix_infidel: yes08:30
unix_infidelzardoz: which ports?08:30
wordunix_infidel: I believe you can choose which port for bit torrent to use..at least in Azureus (another bit torrent client) you can.08:31
zardozI thought you might ask :P sec I will look...08:31
unix_infidelword: i'm not using azureus.08:31
wizpig64basically what im asking is if i can assign my windows and data partitions to be readable by linux. in the install screen, it asks me where i would like it assigned to (/home, /media, /) and then asks me if i want to reformat08:31
unix_infideli'm using the plain 'ole python bt client.08:31
wordunix_infidel: That's simple functionality if the client your using doesn't have it maybe you should use azureus08:31
koshdon't reformat08:31
wizpig64im assuming that if i assign them to media, and dont check reformat, ill be ok08:31
koshthat would be VERY VERY bad08:31
wizpig64lol i know08:32
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zardoz6881-699908:32
koshthat is probably right, and if it does not work out you can restore from backups08:32
wizpig64yea08:32
unix_infidelword: i could care less whatever port it uses...or if i have to forward it.08:32
wizpig64i should get on that but thats like 450 gigs to backup o.O08:32
koshheh our customers don'08:33
koshdon't even have that much in their databases08:33
wizpig64lol08:33
kosheven the larger custoemrs that have sites with 10-40K pages on it with full product catalogs, lots of information, internal stuff etc are less then 4G each08:33
wizpig64i keep all my tv shows, music, other downloads on my 300 gig drive, which is the one im putting kubuntu on. my 160 drive has my windows install (which is unreplacable, thanks to dell) and games. so if i loose either one, im screwed08:35
zardozcrap amaroK is cripple playing mp3's?08:35
koshby default ubuntu/kubuntu won't play mp3s because of patent issues08:35
johnfluxwizpig64: raid08:35
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koshhowever there are modules you can install which will allow them to play08:35
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johnfluxwizpig64: you should try to get another hard disk and raid them08:35
zardozkosh: hehe just like Red Hat and fordoa08:36
wordby buying windows you buy the rights to play mp3's etc. so theoratically unless they specifically say you can only use that license for windows...you can use them on linux too....08:36
zardozkosh: you know what ones right off hand?08:36
|lostbyte|zardoz, have you installed libmad0 ?08:36
zardozthink so let me look08:37
KaiserSuseok... gotta go now... bye08:37
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koshzardoz: off hand I don't remember08:37
zardoz|lostbyte|: nope08:37
|lostbyte|zardoz, install it.08:38
koshzardoz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:38
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zardozah nice one kosh08:39
koshzardoz: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs08:39
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koshthat should work for amarok08:39
|lostbyte|yup..08:39
wizpig64yay! Topic: README: Installation and Boot Guide08:40
wizpig64i <3 forums08:40
arso|lostbyte|:  hey buddy ;)08:42
|lostbyte|arso, hi..08:42
|lostbyte|arso, decided to learn linux duing summer vication.. :P08:43
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_rince_mrgn08:46
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zardozlol dam it bombs out...08:49
Ramiushey can't join my usual channel08:49
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jerryhi09:05
jerryI have a question09:05
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jerryI guess nobodys there09:06
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crazy_penguingood day all! :)09:10
zardozman this is going to be a bitch it looks like :/09:11
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iNikujerry: just ask your question, if someone knows they will reply09:31
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mundialhi09:32
|lostbyte|mundial, hi09:33
mundialhow can i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu?09:33
|lostbyte|mundial, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:33
mundialthe file that i download from nvidia site is .run09:33
mundialit's give me a message to close x before continue09:34
|lostbyte|mundial, nvidia-glx is ver 876209:34
|lostbyte|so dont worry..09:34
|lostbyte|mundial, you dont need the run..09:35
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|lostbyte|mundial, as for that you'll also need kernel source ..09:36
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mundialwhere can i find the nvidia-glx?09:36
|lostbyte|mundial, type in konsole ===> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx09:37
|lostbyte|mundial, are you new to linux ?09:37
mundialyes09:38
|lostbyte|mundial, how many days ?09:38
mundialone month09:38
mundial:)09:38
|lostbyte|mundial, ok :)09:38
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ze4502ushi everyone09:42
wizpig64wassup09:42
|lostbyte|hey :)09:42
ze4502usdoes amaraok have the ability to access itunes shares?09:42
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jerryhi09:43
wizpig64hey jerry09:43
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wizpig64ask your question o.O09:44
jerryI did09:44
jerryI just don't know what's wrong09:44
wizpig64mustve missed it09:44
jerryDo you know about KMC?09:44
ze4502usalso how do i prevent my session from being saved each time i log out of kde?09:44
jerrykmc.sourceforge.net09:44
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wizpig64no :(09:44
|lostbyte|ze4502us, it can access.. but there are some steps..09:45
ze4502usuh huh09:45
jerryCause I wanted to get something that would let me connect to a telnet BBS and when something like "Global: and a person message" came up on a line that it be parced in a different window. Also auto reconnect on disconnect09:45
_uwehi09:46
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|lostbyte|ze4502us, for the second you can disable it from kde_components > session manager09:46
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iNikuze4502us: system settings -> kde components -> session manager09:47
|lostbyte|jerry, wow ! bbs still exsists..09:47
iNikuah, too late09:47
|lostbyte|:P09:47
ze4502us|lostbyte|: i'll do that for session manager09:47
jerrywell they have muds09:47
jerryand I have a program called megamud for windows (cost $45 and there's no linux support)09:48
|lostbyte|ze4502us, i have09:49
wizpig64blegh, its 1am09:49
wizpig64night :)09:49
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ze4502u1hello again10:01
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ze4502u1|lostbyte|: could you please elaborate on how to get amarok to access itunes shares10:02
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mundialknown anyone where can i download easy kubuntu?10:03
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ze4502u1mundial: http://kubuntu.org/download.php10:04
martinjh99Morning all - What option do I need in fstab to not mount at boot???10:04
crimsun"noauto"10:04
martinjh99Ah Thanks!10:04
crimsunmundial: check the easyubuntu Web site10:04
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martinjh99Another question - When I click on a Network share icon on my desktop I get an error about root wanting to mount it.  How can I change it to make it so that I can mount it not root?10:07
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|lostbyte|by adding dev or users.. am not sure..10:08
crimsunmartinjh99: you need the user10:08
crimsunoption10:08
crimsunsee fstab(5)10:08
crimsunmount(8), too10:08
martinjh99Ah OK - How do I read man pages in konq??10:09
martinjh99Never mind10:09
martinjh99OK - Now got a message about suid root smbmnt...10:11
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martinjh99how do I make a file suid root then..?10:14
|lostbyte|huh ?10:15
|lostbyte|martinjh99, you camt.. they are programs that set you id.10:16
|lostbyte|opps..10:17
|lostbyte|sorry10:17
|lostbyte|miss read..10:17
martinjh99:)10:17
|lostbyte|martinjh99, chown root <file>10:17
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|lostbyte|sudo before that..10:17
RobNycwhats better easyubuntu or automatix?10:18
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martinjh99-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8488 2006-05-17 11:05 /usr/bin/smbmnt10:18
Lynoure!automatix10:19
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.10:19
crimsunRobNyc: your call, though many people recommend the former10:19
pinucsetRobNyc I red easyubuntu10:19
pinucsetread10:19
LynoureRobNyc: But I have never tried automatix myself. EasyUbuntu worked for me, though10:19
RobNyci been using automatix10:20
|lostbyte|!bumps10:20
ubotuI know nothing about bumps10:20
martinjh99Actually I'm not too bothered...  I can see them from the smb:/ url...10:20
martinjh99Laters all10:20
LynoureRobNyc: if you are already happy with it, why as which is better?10:21
Lynoures/as/ask10:21
RobNyci never tried easyubuntu10:21
nargmake install on kdevelop source officially takes a crazy amount of time; I've seen other apps compile in the time it takes to install. (Its still installing!)10:23
nargWoot, it finished ;) Night.10:24
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sp__any lyx users10:26
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|lostbyte|sp__, what do you use lyx for ?10:35
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sp__lyx is a WYSIWYM document processor- use for writing reports10:37
|lostbyte|sp__, cant the same be replicated in OO using mail merge ?10:38
|lostbyte|and micros..10:38
sp__but wht about citations? Can OO handle bibtex?10:39
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|lostbyte|sp__, i dought ! but i belive its being implemented right now..10:44
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D4m4gehi all10:44
sp__Lostbyte, Ya i do know they are trying to get it done.10:44
sp__but you can use something like jabref and lyx10:45
sp__and works similar to endnote and MSword10:45
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|lostbyte|k.. will have a look..10:45
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sp__but its not prefects......thats where the problem is...am trying to figure it out10:46
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gianlucahi everyone10:59
gianlucaI have a question10:59
gianlucahow can I make Konqueror open automatically "maximized"?11:00
D4m4gegianluca11:01
D4m4geopen konq11:01
D4m4gego to something like "save konquror profile" in the menu bar11:01
D4m4ge(sorry, my konq is not in english)11:01
gianlucamy konq is italian! i try11:02
D4m4gethere is a checkbox "remember the size of the window"11:03
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D4m4gemine is in french :/11:03
gianlucaa marce pas! I tried but I have to "choose" the profile manually and after the web page is opened11:04
gianlucapardon, marche11:04
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Firelightgianluca: i have a idea (Sorry for my bad English, I'm a young French :) )11:05
gianlucalet's listen11:06
FirelightExecute kcontrol11:06
gianlucadone11:06
FirelightGo to "Apparence and theme" and "Decorated of window"11:07
FirelightEuh, non, sorry :o)11:07
FirelightDesktop -> Comportement of windows11:08
D4m4gegianluca ok ;)11:08
D4m4geFirelight windows decoration11:08
D4m4gewindow*11:08
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FirelightYes D4m4ge :o)11:09
gianlucai went in -> Desktop->Window behaviour11:09
D4m4gespece de frenchy vas :p11:09
gianlucaso?11:10
FirelightClick on New, complet this window (Click on Detect, on click on KOnqueror)11:10
D4m4gebut gianluca said it works that way, why change?11:10
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gianlucano, it doesn't work11:11
FirelightThere isn't a buttom new? Go to Parameters specific to the window, perhaps...11:12
gianlucayes11:12
gianlucaI "detect" a konq window11:12
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FirelightOkay, go to Geometry11:13
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gianlucaand i set in "geometry" orizantal maximization and vertical maximization at "apply at the beginning. is it right?11:13
FirelightYes ^^11:14
gianlucaops. it doesn't work yet. maybe I forgot something...11:14
FirelightIn Geometry, choice Force in orizantal maximization and vertical maximization no?11:16
gianlucaI got ir11:16
gianluca-it11:16
gianlucabut i did a different way11:16
gianlucain the Titlebar of the konq window11:16
gianlucaI selected Advanced->Special application setting11:17
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gianlucathat I selected Orizontal max: remember and Vertival max: remember11:18
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=== MetaMorfoziS hi all
gianlucaIt now remember the position i left the window last time i closed it11:19
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gianlucait work, but WHY DON'T MAKE THIS THE _DEFAULT_ BEHAVIOR?11:19
FirelightI don't know :S11:19
gianlucaTHANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP11:19
tsdgeosgianluca: come one11:20
tsdgeosdo you need to shout?11:20
tsdgeoswhat's the problem?11:20
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gianlucaSHOUT? what do you mean?11:20
tsdgeoscaps is shouting11:20
gianlucaexcuse me, but my declaration in uppercase because it is a proposal11:21
tsdgeosnow can i know what your problem is?11:22
gianlucafor sure. I needed to open konqueror the way I left it the last time I used it, that vertically and orizontally maximized11:23
tsdgeoslol11:23
gianlucabut this work is not that intuitive11:23
tsdgeosthat's your problem?11:23
tsdgeossettings -> save view profile11:23
gianlucaalso other applications. I think this is a good practice11:23
tsdgeosand check the save the size of the window11:24
tsdgeosah11:24
tsdgeoslast time11:24
gianlucait doesn't work11:24
tsdgeoseach time11:24
tsdgeosok11:24
gianlucathat way you have to choose the profile _after_ you open a window11:24
tsdgeosso11:24
tsdgeoswhat you want is11:24
FirelightI have a solution11:24
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gianlucathis doesn't become the _default_ behaviour11:25
Firelight(I tried it)11:25
tsdgeosright click on icon of the window11:25
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tsdgeosadvanced settings11:25
tsdgeosand make it remember the size11:25
gianlucayes, this way is _the_ solution I found11:25
tsdgeosthen?11:26
gianlucabut dont'y you think that making this beheviour the default one would ease a user experience?11:26
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tsdgeosfile a bug report11:26
tsdgeosdo not bitch about it in a channel noone has the power to change it11:26
gianlucait is not a bug report, maybe a feature request..11:26
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gianlucai'm not "bitching about"11:27
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gianlucaI asked a solution, I found it and I expressed a simple opinion11:27
gianlucabut maybe you came too later11:28
gianlucaso you just saw my "desperate shout" :-)11:28
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korganohi there11:34
korganocan anyone tell me how to mount a smb-drive in dapper, since i am not able to apt-get install smbfs?11:35
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tsdgeoswhy not?11:36
korganoThe following packages have unmet dependencies.11:36
korgano  smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu1 is to be installed11:36
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Healot!bob the builder11:39
ubotuI know nothing about bob the builder11:39
tsdgeoskorgano: maybe samba 3.0.22 already includes smbfs?11:40
uwe_hallo11:41
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korganotsdgeos: if I try to mount using "-tsmbfs" I get a "wrong fs type ..."-error11:45
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tsdgeoskorgano: you mounting from a windows server?11:45
haffeHow much of a pain is it to get linpopup to send messages to a windows machine?11:45
jc-dentonhow can i remove/reset the konqueror preferences11:45
korganonope, mounting from another linux machine11:45
tsdgeoskorgano: ah11:46
tsdgeosjc-denton: look for files under .kde/share/config11:46
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jc-dentonhumm11:48
korganojc-denton: ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc & ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/*11:48
korganothis is, where the config-files are located11:48
uniqjc-denton: delete  ~/.kde/share/config/konq* and ~/.kde/share/apps/konq*11:48
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uniqkonquerorrc and konqueror/ will leave out some of the view options.11:49
jc-dentoni have the strange problem that i don't get a preview of jpg,png files in konqueror11:50
uniqkonqiconview, konqlistview, and konqsidebartng11:50
jc-dentonand also no other icons11:50
jc-dentonwhen i when i click on it i'm asked which apps should be uses to open them11:50
jc-dentonalso i cannot set them as wallpaper11:50
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jc-dentonso i tought just remove preferences would work since the default settings should work11:50
uniqgive it a try, but backup your bookmarks if you have anything important there.11:51
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uniqthen from konsole: 'rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konq*;rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/konq*'11:52
windshearhi11:52
windsheari have a problem with my wlan11:52
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jc-dentonhumm11:52
jc-dentonand it last.fm does still not work with amarok11:53
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windshearafter i updated my sytem + kernel it does not work any more11:53
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SkrotFFSwasn't last.fm-support added a couple of days ago?11:53
windshearwhen i load the backup kernel it works11:53
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jc-dentonhrmmm11:54
jc-dentondid not work :(11:54
windshearit is a restricted module that is necessary to make it work11:54
windshearhow can i select what modules get loaded during boot11:54
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steveirehey11:57
indierosshello i just messed up my repositories by adding a bad link and now when i try to run adept it wont run11:57
indierosspls help11:57
steveirefix your /etc/apt/sources.list11:57
jc-dentonkonqueror: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-jpg11:57
indierossi tried to but it wont let me rewrite it11:58
steveireinde /etc/apt/sources.list11:58
steveiresorry11:58
indierosswhat should i do11:58
steveiresudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list11:58
indierossthank you thank you11:59
indierossi just switched to kubuntu today11:59
indierossim still learning11:59
steveireYou'll pick it up quite soon.12:00
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steveireI as able to do mostly everything of what I wanted to after about a month.12:00
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indierosscool12:00
steveireThis channel is good for learning. People ask the same stuff all the time. It just goes in12:00
indierossi think im really getting the hang of it thou12:00
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indierossya this is like the 5th time today ive asked this channel for help12:01
NKjoepevo12:01
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indierosseveryone here is really chill12:01
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jc-dentonstrange12:03
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jc-dentonit does not seem to be a problem with the kde config12:03
jc-dentoncos if i do12:03
jc-dentonmv .kde /tmp; konqueror12:03
jc-dentonthen i hav the samee problem12:03
uniqmaybe a problem with your icon theme?12:03
jc-dentoni have the default from kubuntu12:04
jc-dentonso i don't think so12:04
indierossdoes anyone know a repository where i can get either songbird or banshee12:04
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Healot!find banshee12:06
ubotuFound: banshee, banshee-daap12:06
Healot!info banshee12:06
ubotubanshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB12:06
jc-dentonhumm12:06
jc-dentonhttp://www.kde-forum.org/post/55542/lastpost.html#post5554212:06
Healotindieross: next time, apt-cache search <search keyword>12:06
indierosswill that work on kubuntu12:06
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jc-dentonthis seems to be the same problem12:06
Healotindieross: it's an ubuntu package12:06
jc-dentonbut it's not fixed here12:06
indierosssorry im really new at this12:06
jc-dentoni'm afk12:07
Healotso it will work in Fedora Core I guess12:07
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ph4t-ph4nt0mok, got some interesting info here.12:10
Healot!pot12:11
ubotuI know nothing about pot12:11
ph4t-ph4nt0mso, i re-rolled Kubuntu on my main machine because the network interface card wouldn't work anymore.  so after reinstalling (which it never prompted me to set up my network card) it comes up and i'm able to connect to the net.  now it's funny cause i do ifconfig and all i got is eth0 and lo.  no eth1 (my where my nic is suuposed to be) or wlan or eth2 (where my wireless nic is supposed to be if it detected it).  But lo and behold, i am accessing the ne12:13
indierosswheres some pot12:13
indierossoh its right here12:13
Healotwhat do you call it, pot, vase, china?12:14
indierossmarijuana12:14
indierosswhat do you call it12:14
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Healoti mean that thing... not the recreational drug12:15
indierossoh then i call it a vase12:15
indierossjust a fancier word i guess12:16
Healotwhen do you call it a china?12:16
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HealotI do not have any idea where the word "china" came from12:16
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indierosscertain ceramics origionated in china12:17
wordHealot: It's in a history book I read a couple years ago look it up on wikipedia12:17
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Healotwiki, thanks12:17
wordyah indieross that's part of it...12:17
indierossand the word kept12:17
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CydoniaHi, I want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help? please, pretty please? :P12:28
HealotI am not familiar with Linux P2PTP12:29
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Healotuntil this day?12:30
Healotor L2TP... well with Linux...12:30
Healotbut have you read Xen documentation?12:30
Cydoniado you know anything about setting up 'tun0' interfaces?12:30
Cydoniayup12:30
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Healotyeah the first tp interface for linux12:31
Cydoniahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuBreezy12:31
Healotnever done that before12:31
CydoniaI've done all that, changed a bit for dapper12:31
HealotCydonia: i guess you can follow that on dapper even12:31
Healotuntil which part that keep you back?12:32
Cydonianow i'm just stumped on actually getting a tunnel setup12:32
Cydoniato shunt all tcp/ip through it12:32
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kibahola - hello12:33
Healothola...12:33
CydoniaI'm completely lost :(12:33
kibahola :)12:33
kibatengo un problema12:33
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HealotCydonia: with linux tp, i am lost too12:33
kibaacabo de instalar kubuntu -ive installed kubuntu now12:33
Healotokay... what's seems to be the probleme now?12:34
kibay no se como instalar los drivers de nvidia - and i dont know how to install the nvidia drivers12:34
Healot!ati12:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:34
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Healotfollow the link obut gave you... kiba, come back if you encounter muy problemas12:34
Cydonia!xen12:35
ubotuxen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/12:35
Cydonia!tunneling12:35
ubotuI know nothing about tunneling12:35
Cydoniaaww12:35
Healot!tunnel12:35
ubotuI know nothing about tunnel12:35
Healot!find tunnel12:35
ubotuFound: 6tunnel, carpaltunnel, httptunnel, ptunnel, stunnel (and 4 others)12:35
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Cydonia!tun012:36
ubotuI know nothing about tun012:36
Cydonia!find tun012:36
ubotuNo packages matching 'tun0' could be found12:36
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HealotCydonia: what tunnelling app are you using btw?12:36
Cydonia!stunnel12:36
ubotuI know nothing about stunnel12:36
Healot!info stunnel12:36
ubotustunnel: Universal SSL tunnel for network daemons. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.26-7ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 128 kB, installed size 396 kB12:36
Cydoniathe linux kernel12:37
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Arschmadehallo ein deutscher da der mir erklren kann wo ich java fr kubuntu herbekomme...? weil unter apt find ich nix12:37
Cydonia:P12:37
Healot!java12:37
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository12:37
Healotfollow that link, Arschmade12:37
Arschmadethx12:37
Healot!info sun-java5-jre12:37
ubotusun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB12:37
Healot!info sun-java5-jde12:38
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ubotuPackage sun-java5-jde does not exist in dapper12:38
Healot!info sun-java5-jdk12:38
ubotusun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB12:38
ArschmadeE: Konnte Paket sun-java5-jre nicht finden12:38
Arschmadecould not find the package12:38
Arschmade^^12:38
Healot!multiverse12:39
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:39
Healotenable the multiverse and universe sections of "dapper"  repos first, Arschmade, once again follow the other link12:39
Arschmadeok12:40
HealotArschmade: use adept... for easy does it12:40
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jc-dentonhumm12:40
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Healotdeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> you should have something like this in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, Arschmade12:43
Arschmadei got this one now what should i do with it ? >>> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin12:43
HealotArschmade: run it... cd to the directory where that file resides, type ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin12:44
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slow-motionhallo12:45
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Arschmadebash: ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied12:46
SkrotFFSchmod a+x jre....12:46
Healotchmod +x jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin && ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin12:47
Arschmadeit works12:48
Arschmadebig thx12:48
Arschmadeim new in kubuntu12:49
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rostokhi12:50
Arschmadehmmm12:51
Arschmadefrostwire dont start12:51
cpk!llibgtk12:52
ubotuI know nothing about llibgtk12:52
cpk!info libgtk12:52
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ubotuPackage libgtk does not exist in dapper12:52
Arschmadejava is installed but it dont start either12:52
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Cavallohow should I install karambo on kubuntu ? from source ? or there ia already any package ?12:52
Cydonia!firestarter12:52
ubotuUbuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)12:52
Cydonia!info iptables12:52
ubotuiptables: Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.3.3-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 972 kB12:52
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Healot!info firestarter12:56
ubotufirestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB12:56
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cpk!info gtk12:57
ubotuPackage gtk does not exist in dapper12:57
afm\colossus!info gtk+12:57
ubotuPackage gtk+ does not exist in dapper12:57
afm\colossus!info gtk212:57
ubotuPackage gtk2 does not exist in dapper12:57
afm\colossuslol12:57
Healot!info libgtk2-common12:57
ubotuPackage libgtk2-common does not exist in dapper12:57
Healot!info libgtk2.0-common12:57
ubotulibgtk2.0-common: Common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.18-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 12332 kB12:57
cpkhaha12:57
Healot!info libgtk1.2-common12:57
ubotulibgtk1.2-common: Common files for the GTK+ library. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 940 kB12:57
Healotlooking for gtk development header?12:57
cpktrying to help a friend, was trying to figure out the package name for synaptic12:58
Cydonia!uml12:58
ubotuI know nothing about uml12:58
Cydonia!UML12:58
Healot!info pmi12:58
ubotuI know nothing about UML12:58
ubotuPackage pmi does not exist in dapper12:58
|lostbyte|!info info12:58
Healotsudo pmi action hibernate12:58
ubotuinfo: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In repository main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB12:58
SkrotFFSCydonia: What are your looking for?12:58
Healotbasically I think he is looking for a tunneling program?12:59
Healotand I am not sure... about that12:59
SkrotFFSoh. I was thinking UML as in Unified Modeling Language =)12:59
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Healotubuntu developer. cool12:59
Cydoniaare there any server-type programs that will listen on 192.168.1.3 for packets coming from 192.168.1.2, and then forward them on to my router (192.168.1.1), -> internet?01:00
Cydoniauml = user mode linux01:00
Cydoniaor xen01:00
Cydonia192.168.1.3 would be the uml'ed kernel01:01
Cydonia:)01:01
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acesuaresCydonia: redirect01:04
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acesuaresDon't know if it still exists but it used to be a standard Debian package.01:04
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acesuaresor iptables.01:04
Cydonia!search redirect01:04
ubotuFound nothing01:04
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indierossi just downloaded xmms and im wondering how to install it its a tag.gz file01:07
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Bazzilong story short: you don't01:07
cpklol01:07
Bazziuse ubuntus xmms version01:07
indierosswhere can i find thatr01:07
Bazziin adept / with aptitude01:07
indierossok im a noob with aptitude?01:08
indierosswhat repository do i use01:08
Bazzi!universe01:09
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:09
indierossare all of these available to kubuntu01:10
Bazzisure01:10
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AncientNewbiethernet connection does not work properly on01:11
AncientNewbielinux01:11
indierosswhere can i find a list of repositories with media codecs01:11
AncientNewbiedunno why01:11
indierossor media pplayers01:11
cpkmplayer01:12
cpki think mplayer has all the codecs you need at their site?01:12
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cpk!mplayer01:12
ubotuNo fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs01:12
Bazziindieross:01:12
Bazzi!restrictedformats01:13
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:13
cpk!codecs01:13
cpk...01:13
cpk!codecs01:13
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:13
indieross!codecs01:13
indierossahh nm01:13
cpk!info codecs01:14
ubotuPackage codecs does not exist in dapper01:14
indierossok now that i have the package how do i go about installing it01:14
indierossits a tar.bx201:15
indierossbz2*01:15
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cpktar -xvjf01:18
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hugelmopfindieross: do you mean a tar.bz2 of mplayer? you shouldn't install the package from a tar.bz2 that you downloaded, but use adept or aptitude to install ubuntu's prepackaged version of it.01:18
r0xzindiecross: unpack it (command-line or ark), and read the INSTALL or README file. But going apt-get is much easier, i would recommend that01:18
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indierossi couldnt find it on adept01:19
afm\colossususe the force of your package management software01:19
raphinkindieross: are you sure you activated all the repositories?01:19
raphinkindieross: what package is that?01:19
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indierosssome of them didnt work and wouldnt update01:19
raphinkindieross: what package is missing for you?01:21
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indierossmplayer01:21
raphinkindieross: mplayer is in multiverse01:21
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raphinkindieross: just activate the multiverse repository and you'll have it01:22
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raphink!repositories01:22
indierosswhats the full name for multiverse01:22
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:22
cpk!multiverse01:22
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cpk!info multiverse01:23
ubotuPackage multiverse does not exist in dapper01:23
cpk!multiverse01:23
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource01:23
D4m4ge!?01:23
ubotuI know nothing about ?01:23
raphinkindieross: read what ubotu said01:23
D4m4geooops sorry ubotu01:23
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raphink!$01:23
ubotuI know nothing about $01:23
raphinkhehe01:23
D4m4ge!love01:23
ubotuI know nothing about love01:23
raphinkdon't understand bash, ubotu ?01:24
raphinkthat's too bad01:24
raphink!life01:24
ubotuI know nothing about life01:24
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D4m4gelaughing out loud01:24
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raphinkno wonder, if you stay all the time in here01:24
D4m4gehow about friends?01:24
raphink!myself01:24
ubotuI know nothing about myself01:24
afm\colossus!making love. :(01:24
ubotuI know nothing about making love. :(01:24
raphinklooooooooooooool01:24
D4m4gepoor bot01:24
afm\colossus:< poor ubotu01:24
indierosshaha01:24
D4m4geit's cruel01:25
raphinkrofl01:25
D4m4gefree Uberriffic !01:25
D4m4gefree ubotu ! *01:25
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raphink!people making fun of me :s01:25
ubotuI know nothing about people making fun of me :s01:25
cpkbullies01:26
cpk!standing up for myself01:26
ubotuI know nothing about standing up for myself01:26
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raphinkyes, no wonder01:26
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raphink!jpatrick coming into the room01:26
ubotuI know nothing about jpatrick coming into the room01:26
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jpatrickubotu: well thou art blind01:27
ubotuI know nothing about well thou art blind01:27
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raphinkjpatrick: that's my conclusion, too01:27
jpatrickraphink: they say great minds think alike01:28
raphinklol01:28
raphinkdo not take hasty conclusions either, young padawan01:28
raphink:)01:28
jpatrickyes master01:28
raphink:)01:29
raphink!the dark side of the force01:29
ubotuI know nothing about the dark side of the force01:29
raphinktake example on ubotu01:29
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jpatrick!the dark side of the source01:30
ubotuI know nothing about the dark side of the source01:30
raphinkhehe01:30
raphinkthat's good, too01:30
cpk!microsoft01:30
ubotuI know nothing about microsoft01:30
cpkand keep it that way01:30
raphinkthat's good01:30
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raphink!installing windows01:31
ubotuI know nothing about installing windows01:31
raphinknow I love this bot01:31
raphink:)01:31
jpatrick@lart raphink01:31
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jpatricki prefer that^01:31
raphinkno comment01:31
raphinkthink aboiut it twice when you need a sponsor for main :)01:32
raphinkhehe :)01:32
karlrhsquestion about filesharing does anyone have a moment?01:32
jpatrickIt was just an example of Ubugtu's  powers01:32
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raphinkkarlrhs: I don't know about a moment of filesharing01:32
raphinkmoments are more likely to be of inertia iirc01:32
raphinkanyway what's your problem karlrhs?01:33
cpk@lart jpatrick01:33
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raphinkkarlrhs: feel free to ask your question whenever you get the chance01:34
jpatrick!ask01:34
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)01:34
karlrhsIt seems when I go into system settings and then to fileshareing it asks for my main password01:34
raphink:)01:34
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karlrhsthen nothing ....... it will not let me type into any field01:35
raphinkkarlrhs: that seems reasonable01:35
raphinkah01:35
raphinkkarlrhs: using dapper?01:35
karlrhsyes01:35
m_tadeuhello01:35
karlrhssorry if I am slow...01:35
cpk!hello01:35
ubotuI know nothing about hello01:35
m_tadeuwhat's the command to change the dm?01:35
cpkubotu: its a greeting01:35
ubotuI know nothing about its a greeting01:35
jpatrickpoor bot..01:36
raphinkkarlrhs: after you enter your password, having clicked the administrator mode button, you should get a red line around the window01:36
raphinkdo you get that?01:36
raphinkm_tadeu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:37
karlrhsYes I get the red line but none of the fields allow any imput01:37
raphinkshould do for example01:37
m_tadeuraphink: thx a lot :)01:37
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raphinkkarlrhs: did you check the box at the top of the window?01:37
raphinkto activate filesharing01:38
karlrhsIt is checked but I did not check it.   It is shaded so that it can not be changed01:38
cpki'm curious is there an easy gui for samba or something like samba?01:39
raphinkkarlrhs: are yo up-to-date ?01:39
cpkmainly to share with windows clients01:39
karlrhsYes one moment while I check?01:39
raphinkcpk: there's a small gui in systemsettings01:39
raphinknot very powerful though01:39
raphinkcpk: samba.conf is very easy to use though01:39
raphinkcpk: or do you mean to browse samba shares ?01:39
raphinkin that case : smb:/ in konqueror01:40
cpkback before my HD died i was trying to get samba to work but couldnt seem to get the computers to see each other or anything01:40
cpkso now i am waiting for my new hd and was just wondering01:40
karlrhsI am totally current with updates01:40
steveireIs it the first of june in LA yet?01:41
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cpkyes01:41
cpk4 4001:41
steveireIcool, thnaks01:42
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steveireJust remembered a birthday01:42
guptaHi all, check this out:01:42
guptarrr=$(which $1)01:42
guptacp -l $rrr ~/Desktop/01:42
guptaDesktop shortcut creator!! hehe01:42
karlrhsdo I need to download any other config software?01:43
cpkalso raphink i like kde alot more than gnome but am a very lazy man and would be bummed if the kde distro didnt share all the gnome packages?01:43
cpki guess that was worded poorly but you get what i am saying?01:43
raphinkcpk: not sure I understood01:44
jpatrickcpk: all you need about Microsoft: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Microsoft01:44
raphinkkarlrhs: I do not think so01:44
raphinkkarlrhs: did you install NFS or samba?01:44
karlrhslet me check.01:45
cpkthanks jpatrick, uncyclopedia is always good for a laugh01:46
jpatrick:)01:46
cpkdoes kbuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories or can you not get all the packages if you have kubuntu (excluding gnome packages)01:47
jpatrickcpk: yes01:47
raphinkubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro cpk01:47
raphinksame repos, smae packages01:47
raphinksame versions01:47
raphinksame maintainers01:47
jpatricksame old boxes of pizza01:48
raphinkyes, too01:48
raphinkand bad jokes01:48
karlrhsnfs was not installed ... I am working on it now..... samba common was installed.01:49
jpatricklike how did Darth Vader know what Luke was getting for Xmas?01:49
raphinkyou'd need samba karlrhs,not only -common01:49
cpkk thanks01:50
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karlrhsok I am getting it.01:50
karlrhsthank so much for your time.01:50
cpki dunno jpatrick how did he?01:52
raphinkkarlrhs: great :)01:52
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raphinkkarlrhs: if you think the doc should be improved on this, please complete it on the wiki01:52
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jpatrickcpk: he felt his presents01:53
cpki actually laughed01:53
cpkslightly01:53
jpatrickcpk: you're supposed to go: "ROFL!!!11"01:53
cpkoh oops01:54
karlrhsYes I will check out the wiki01:54
cpkROFL01:54
cpkLMAO01:54
raphinkthank you karlrhs01:54
jpatrick;)01:54
karlrhsas far as nfs goes it says something about a kernal package?01:55
cpkI am excited to get my new HD i always have so much fun playing with linux even though I am a noob01:56
karlrhsI do have nfs common.01:56
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anhi guys.how can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it02:00
karlrhsok I have samba now.02:00
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anhello?02:01
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anhow can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it02:02
jpatrickkicker?02:02
anno ,just kasbar02:02
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I restart alsa?02:03
ani added it from "add new panel" by accident02:03
anjpatrick ,do u know that?02:03
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raphinkWindows CE-ME-NT - Just Add Water!02:04
raphinklooooooooooooooool02:04
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karlrhsOk that was my problem no samba installed.... now I need to know of a good kubuntu client?02:04
jpatrickan: right-click kicker -> remove panel02:04
|lostbyte|DjDarkman, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart02:04
raphinkkarlrhs: konqueror02:04
raphinkkarlrhs: in konqueror, type smb:/02:04
raphinkkonqueror is a good client for almost everything02:05
jpatrickexpect tea making02:05
anjpatrick,no this item02:05
jpatrickwhere kteatime wins02:05
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anjpatrick,i got it02:06
anthanku02:06
an:)02:06
jpatrick:D02:06
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|lostbyte|:)02:06
|lostbyte|DjDarkman, with sudo that is.02:07
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tux||||||||| Am I the only one who realizes that  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/   has been hacked?!?02:08
jpatrickraphink: I like the murder clippy on that page02:09
raphinktux: are you the only one to use windows games on linux?02:09
raphink;)02:09
tuxwho02:09
tuxnot to02:09
tuxand then useS02:09
tuxnot us02:09
tuxuse02:10
|lostbyte|raphink, same here..02:10
|lostbyte|and the million wine user's out there..02:11
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guptaWhat to do when you encounter an app that has a newer version than the repos?02:11
guptaAs in where should I make this info known? wiki?02:12
jpatrickhttp://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Ctrl-alt-del.jpg loool02:12
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hugelmopfgupta: why do you want to make this information known?02:14
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guptaSo that the repo could be updated02:16
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|lostbyte|gupta, usually done through.. http://revu.tauware.de/02:18
Lynouregupta: probably they'll update things for edgy ayway. I don't know how it's done in ubuntu, in debian one would have files a wishlist level bug02:18
DjDarkmanhy ,how can i compile something with gcc3 insted of gcc4?02:18
|lostbyte|gupta, you make your source package and upload it.02:18
|lostbyte|but its not good to order for a delay.. as its being done..02:19
|lostbyte|DjDarkman, huh ! changing the cc variable in a make file.02:19
gupta|lostbyte|:me ain't ordering, just informing incase they don't know02:19
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|lostbyte|gupta, :P, they know.. but also got to see the other packages they are doing.. People who do packaing have very less time on their hands..02:20
gupta|lostbyte|: ok, package making it is then!! ;)02:21
|lostbyte|gupta, You either help as a bug teater or contribute by making the package..02:21
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|lostbyte|gupta, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html02:22
gupta:up:02:23
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|lostbyte|AFK..02:26
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guptaIs it possible to upload stuff to non ftp stuff like turboupload from the command line?02:29
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guptaI mean turboupload.com02:29
afm\colossuswith severe kickass scripting skills and curl02:29
afm\colossusit surely is, yes02:29
guptaand has anybody has written some kickass stuff?02:30
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guptacoz my 'scripts are all <5 lines02:30
DjDarkmanhow can I change the default automake version?02:30
Lynouregupta: it's not the lenght, it's how well they work :)02:31
guptaLynoure: Thanks02:31
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SeanTatergupta: if you need a web browser at the cli, lynx should help, but if you want it done automatically, clear your week's schedule02:31
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Lynouregupta: :)02:33
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svizzeroanyone knows how to let gnuchess think fast??02:42
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BKajHowdy02:46
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wilfredHhow do I remove pcmcia modules on my desktop?03:17
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wilfredHis it possible to remove the pcmcia stuff?03:20
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CavalloI want to connect to computer at work throught VPN. How should I do that ? ;/03:28
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h3sp4wnCavallo: Look into openswan (if its ipsec which most work vpn's are (or should be)03:32
zardozdo I need to restart the xserver after installing the mp3 suppoert for amarok?03:35
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Cavallono03:35
zardozmmmm03:35
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AB3Iok guys, I have an amazingly dumb question. I removed the home folder button from my task bar by accident. I cant figure out how to get it back. Is it hiding in the menus somewhere so I can just readd it? or do I have to modify the konqueror button somehow?03:37
AB3Ihmmm03:39
AB3Iquiet in here this morning03:39
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BKajright click on the panel/config panels then hidden, you should be able to restore it from there03:39
AB3Iah03:39
AB3Ithanks bkaj, lemme try it03:39
BKajI think that's the way i fixed mine03:40
AB3Ihmm03:40
AB3II think I actually removed the thing03:40
AB3Ido me a favor?03:40
afm\colossusis there a way to tell the KDE Sound system to play back sounds via `play` (from the sox-package) instead of arts or the like?03:41
AB3Ican you right click on your home button, click configure konqueror button03:41
AB3Iand under the Application tab tell me what it says under Description and Command?03:41
AB3II can just modify a konqueror button to do it03:42
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AB3Ianyone able to give me the info from the Home button on the taskbar? I need to know the Description, Command, and workpath is03:46
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BKajAB3I:  do you mean the K-Menu button or the Home folder ?03:52
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AB3Ithe button on the task bar03:52
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AB3IIf I can get that info, I can just turn a regular konqueror web browser button into a home button03:53
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Tommy2k4AB3I, konqueror /home/username03:55
Tommy2k4is the command03:55
Tommy2k4no work path, description is whatever you want03:55
AB3Iah03:55
AB3Ithanks03:55
__osh__Has something changed in dapper? I can no longer use ctrl-tab to switch desktops. Is this by design or a bug?03:55
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AB3II've found a few wierd things like that osh03:56
AB3Ilike them removing the screen resolution thing under Configure Desktop03:56
AB3Iwhich is just dumb03:56
cpkyou should be able to assign your own hotkeys to switch desktops...03:57
Tommy2k4ctrl + F2 etc03:57
Tommy2k4and you can assign your own03:59
Tommy2k4kde desktop froze :( anyway to get it back without ctrl alt backspace03:59
AB3Ibah, it that worked Tommy, I have my home button back04:00
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PupenoHello.04:04
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PupenoI have one of these: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=12 can it be used to buil a Linux-based access point ?04:05
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AB3IPupeno, I think you'll need an actual router04:06
PupenoAB3I: why ?04:06
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AB3Ithose PCI adapters dont have the built in ability to handle connections to multiple computers04:06
h3sp4wnThey do04:06
AB3I? not the ones I've ever dealt with04:07
h3sp4wnAtheros based - you could run hostapd04:07
zardozAB3I: you mean like make a linux router box?04:07
AB3Iah, software based stuff?04:07
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h3sp4wnOnly in the same way all atheros runs however this is nothing to do with openwrt04:07
h3sp4wn(oops wrong channel)04:07
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AB3II was thinking native support. Install one of those on a windows box and there's no hope for using it as a router04:08
h3sp4wnPupeno: You could do it relatively easily04:08
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visik7I got my CDs04:09
visik7cool04:09
h3sp4wnAB3I: I have a card (minipci) using similar chipeset - that my router uses (also running linux)04:10
Pupenoh3sp4wn: really ? with that particular board ? because then I'll cancel the purchase of the router. I'll build mine (which I want to do anyway to have a half-restricted public node)04:10
AB3Ihmmm, I should do that04:10
AB3Ithis box begs to be a router04:10
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AB3Ithough it would be a waste04:10
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h3sp4wnPupeno: Only problem is that the version of hostapd in universe is compiled against madwifi-ng whereas the version used by default in kubuntu is madwifi-old (and I have yet to find a way to force the kernel to use madwifi-ng)04:12
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Tommy2k4when will OOo 2.03 be in the repositories04:15
gnomefreakTommy2k4: i doubt you will see it in dapper breezy or before versions of ubuntu04:16
Tommy2k4o04:16
Tommy2k4saving it for next version?04:16
gnomefreakTommy2k4: too late to add it to a stable ubuntu04:16
Tommy2k4so we'll never be able to get it from apt-get  upgrade?04:17
gnomefreakTommy2k4: dont know what version is gonna be in edgy yet too early04:17
gnomefreakTommy2k4: thats something that cant be answered atm we have to wait and see where OOo makes it and what version it is first04:17
Tommy2k4k04:18
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nightwatchhow can I configure the "super-key" (window key) in my keyboard?04:21
nightwatchthere's no option in kcontrol04:22
guptanightwatch: You can try xbindkeys 7 xbindkeys-config04:22
gupta7 == &04:22
guptathough it crashed for me.04:22
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nightwatch:(04:29
nightwatchit is not working04:29
nightwatchno superkey working04:29
gupta:(04:30
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nightwatchI did xbindkeys --defaults > ~/.xbindkeysrc04:30
nightwatchbut I dont get my superkey working04:31
nightwatchdidnot work04:31
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sotiredgood morning all04:32
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drizNintendo DS lite04:32
drizYAY!!!04:33
drizI got it04:33
drizI did not know angelina jolie liked linux04:33
h3sp4wndriz: Any idea if the DS lite supports WPA ? (or is it still only WEP ?)04:33
sotiredwhere does wine hide my fake c drive?04:33
drizI have not tried it online yet04:34
drizI donht even have a wireless router04:34
drizdont*04:34
sotiredim using winefile....but ineed to copy a file from my hone folder to my C:\program files directory in wine'04:34
Raven301How do you change the permission of halt & reboot so you don't have to be super user??04:34
omeowAmarok can auto-size its collumns, can konqueror do this too?04:37
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sotiredwine anyone?04:37
sotiredhey leejun04:38
yanisI  add a new dns server in kcontrol but it deletes it after some time/or reboot...04:38
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bojanis all Adept Updater do is sudo apt-get updae, followed by sudeo apt-get upgrade?04:40
bojansudeo apt-get update*04:40
sotiredsu su sudeo?04:40
bojanthat was suppose to be sudo apt-get upgrade04:40
sotiredi knoe ;-p04:41
bojansorry im a bad typer04:41
sotiredknow* , me too04:41
bojanheh04:41
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sotiredanyone know where wine hides the fake c drive?04:42
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raphinksotired: in .wine04:43
raphink;)04:43
Bazziin /home/sotired/.wine/drive_c04:43
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sotireddoes the . denote hidden?04:43
syironhello. i have problem with samba. i got some error. it cannot start it. how to solve it ?04:43
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Hawkwindsotired: Yes04:45
sotiredthanks04:45
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bojanfrom looking at forums, and looking at what it wants to install for me, it looks like Adept Updater does: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is this correct?04:49
__osh__!easyubunut04:50
ubotuI know nothing about easyubunut04:50
__osh__!easyubuntu04:50
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:50
__osh__Hmm, no link... :-/04:50
raphinkbojan: Adept Updater does something of the kind, yes04:50
raphinkit's a mit more complicate04:50
kbrooks__osh__: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org04:50
bojani was just wandering can it be accompliched what it does, using command line?04:51
raphinkit actually gets the list of updates to do from apt-get upgrade, cancels the upgrade, and proposed to apt-get install the packages04:51
__osh__kbrooks: thanks04:51
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bojantechinically, the 3 commands above, should upgarde your complete sysytem04:51
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raphinksudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:52
raphinkupgrades your whole system04:52
drbrownI have just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now I get apt probs and I have no sound04:52
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raphinkare you sure the upgrade is complete drbrown?04:53
bojanwhat sound card u have?04:53
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drizyes04:53
drizfrance brazil04:53
drbrownSBLive04:53
bojanok04:53
drbrownValue I believe04:53
bojantry this04:54
bojan1 sec04:54
bojanill find the command that helped me04:54
bojandoes everything look OK in the sound settings04:54
drbrownthx04:54
iaini cant get adept to work, help anyone04:54
bojanlike ur card is detected and everything, and all the volumes seem OK, but you just dont have any sound?04:54
iaini cant get adept to work, help anyone04:54
heinrichhow play argentina yesterday?04:54
heinrichplayed04:55
drizthey lost04:55
drbrownexactly04:55
iaini cant get adept to work, help anyone04:55
heinrichwas it just?04:55
drizshot out04:55
iaini can't get adept to work, help anyone04:55
bojanthis is the command that made my sound work: amixer set 'IEC958 Optical Raw' off && amixer set 'Front' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80%,80%,on,on04:55
bojanI had the same problem and I haev SB Live!04:55
heinrichi have read in the newspaper they were the better team04:56
heinrichbut i doubt that04:56
iaini can't get adept to work, help anyone04:56
bojanim not sure if anything should be changed for ur setup though04:56
driz!offtopic04:56
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:56
bojani dont know what that IEC958 Optical Raw thing is04:56
heinrichok sorry04:56
iaini can't get adept to work, help anyone04:56
drizanyone who wants to talk soccer go to off topic04:56
BKajI don't like the shootouts to break a tie game...that sucks04:57
drizy ai know04:57
drbrownthe command is not found04:57
iaincan any one help me04:57
bojanamixer isnt found?04:57
iaini can't get adept to work, help anyone04:57
Lynouredriz: what kind of not working you have?04:57
BKajiain: is it listed in the k-menu?04:57
iainyes04:57
drizLynoure: what?04:58
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drbrownI have to fix the apt prob first I guess alsa has not been reinstalled yet, sorry I attempted to uninstall and reinstall alsa, but I am having apt probs04:58
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Lynouredriz: oops, wrong person04:58
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Stiilymanhelp!04:58
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drbrownlibperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:58
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bojanoh yea u should install alsa stuff first i think04:58
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bojanim not sure what the exact package(s) are04:58
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Lynoureiain: Instead of being repetative, tell us how it behaves instead of working right04:59
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grafthey does anyone know why katapult only recognizes some applications? for example i can't get it to recognize filelight...04:59
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Stiilymanperl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").04:59
Stiilymanlocale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory04:59
StiilymanGenerating locales...04:59
Stiilymancan anyone help me plz?04:59
overdrivealgun espaol?05:00
Lynoure!es05:00
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:00
overdriveok gracias05:00
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iainit won't load up05:00
graftStiilyman: uh, some context?05:00
drbrownperl is completly broken because of this error05:00
Lynoureiain: do you get errors? If so, what?05:00
iainThe APT Database could not be opened05:00
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drbrownrror while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory05:01
graftdrbrown: sudo apt-get install libperl5.805:01
Lynoureiain: do you have another adept or apt running?05:02
iainI try to edit the  sources list but can't save05:02
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Lynoureiain: you need to edit it as root (sudo or ksudo  depending on your editor)05:03
iaini've tryied that in pico and kate05:03
Lynoureiain: but simply looking at sources.list should not break your apt/adept05:04
neoncodeHow do I check what Xserver I have?05:04
iaina friend told me to change some of the texted05:05
Lynoureiain: in some cases doing    sudo debtags update   help adept to be able to read the package database05:05
iainwhat does sudo debtags update05:06
Lynoureiain: If their advice is worth taking, then they should also be willing to help you with related problems :)05:06
iainmean05:06
Lynoureiain: see   man debtags   for explanation05:06
iaintrue05:06
graftneoncode: try dpkg -L | grep xserver-xorg05:06
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drbrownldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libexslt.so.0.8.12: Permission denied05:07
drbrownldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0: Permission denied05:07
drbrownI get a series of these when trying to install libperl5.805:07
graftdrbrown: are you using sudo?05:07
Lynoureiain: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167676 might also have helpfulness for you05:07
drbrownapt is busted, and I am in a root console sudo sux -05:08
graftyou're logged in as root and you're getting permission denied?05:08
kbrooksokay, all.05:08
drbrownI ran dpkg -i /varvar/cache/apt/libperl5.8_5.8.7-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb05:09
kbrookswe need someone to help us test easyubuntu on kubuntu05:09
graftdrbrown: as root?05:09
drbrownyes I am logged in as root and getting permission denied05:09
drbrownyes05:09
drbrownvery odd05:09
grafterm... hm. who does ldconfig run as?05:09
drbrownls -l example ?---------  ? ?    ?           ?                ? /usr/lib/cgi-bin05:10
drbrownit appears there is no ownership on the files05:10
graftuh05:10
graftstill05:10
graftcan you chown them to root?05:11
graftis this on some funny-mounted partition?05:11
drbrownyes, and I did a chown root.root * /usr/lib/*05:11
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drbrownand I get chown: cannot access `libtcl8.4.so.0': Permission denied05:12
drbrownno it is not some funny mounted partition05:12
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graftcan you delete it?05:12
grafti guess not05:13
graftif you have no permissions05:13
graftbizarre05:13
senseichmod -R a+rwx /   ftw05:13
graftdid you try mounting it with a livecd and manipulating it there?05:13
graftthat is a TERRIBLE idea, sensei05:13
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kbrooksdoes anyone here use easyubuntu on kubuntu and have experienced a measure of problems?05:14
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senseigraft: Just fooling around.. just got here, have no idea what you're talking about05:14
graftum, drbrown has some file with, apparently, no owner and no permissions05:14
grafteven root can't touch it05:14
drbrownI think I have a much bigger prog05:15
senseiSo add permissions?05:15
drbrownI think I have a much bigger prob05:15
drbrownthat's the cgi-bin05:15
drbrownw/ permisions changed05:15
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graftwhat's the big deal about cgi-bin?05:15
graftsensei: how do you suggest he do that? no one can manipulate the file...05:16
senseigraft: You don't manipulate the file when adding permissions05:16
senseisudo chmod +rw file05:16
Lynouregraft: nothing, unless you want to run cgi scripts for web.05:16
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graftsensei: yeah, but you still have to have permissions to touch the file if you want to chmod it05:17
graftotherwise that would be the world's easiest root exploit05:17
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senseigraft: Eh05:18
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senseiroot can change permissions on any file05:18
senseiThat's the whole idea of being root.. that you can do ber stuff like that05:18
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drbrownchmod +rw does not work05:18
sensei'does not work'.. great05:18
drbrownI need to boot under a live CD and start poking around I believe my system has been compromised05:19
grafti don't even know HOW you could strip off ownership completely05:19
apolanybody knows how can I update the kmenu after installing something with adept?05:19
senseichmod 0000 or chmod a-rwx05:19
graftapol: it should be updated automatically05:19
graftsensei: that's permissions, not ownership05:19
graftsensei: file has to have a user and group, right?05:19
apolgraft: it is not05:19
senseidrbrown: How do you mean 'does not work'?05:20
senseigraft: right05:20
drbrownchmod 0000 cgi-bin does not work05:20
drbrownpermision denied05:20
senseidrbrown: You don't want that anyways05:20
graftapol: what'd you install?05:20
drbrownall permision denied05:20
senseidrbrown: You ARE using 'sudo', right?05:20
apolgraft: its firefox05:20
drbrownchown root.root -R cgi-bin05:20
drbrownpermision denied05:20
senseisudo05:21
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drbrownyes05:21
drbrownI am in a root console05:21
graftapol doesn't show up under 'internet'?05:21
apolno05:22
senseidrbrown: Are you sure? 'whoami'05:22
graftapol you can always add it yourself with the menu editor...05:23
Lynoureiain: did your problem get solved?05:23
iainlynoure:Thank very much it works now05:23
iainyes05:23
Lynoureiain: That's nice to hear :)05:23
apolgraft: thx05:23
iaindo you know how to install some games on adept05:23
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nico8481hello05:24
drbrownroot05:24
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drbrownI am root05:25
senseidrbrown: chmod +rwd cgi-bin05:25
drbrowninvalid mode +rwd05:25
Lynoureiain: depends on which games. I usually use apt-get myself.   So I'd do    apt-cache search game    and then   apt-cache show  <packagename>   for the more interesting ones,  and finally   apt-get install <packagename>   to get one  :)05:25
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senseidrbrown: erm, chmod +rwx cgi-bin05:26
Lynoureiain: but actually, if you choose Add programs   from K menu, you get Games icon on the left side. Easier05:27
AbetsicHi every body, i have a little question, does the "/" partiton can be on an extended partition or it must be on a primary partition ?05:27
drbrownpermision denied05:27
drbrownthis system has been compromised05:27
drbrownno doubt05:27
senseiAbetsic: It can be where ever05:27
drbrownI am in for a fun day of reloading everything05:28
graftdrbrown: either that or your disk is corrupted05:28
graftdrbrown: run a fsck lately?05:28
iaini tryied that and i can't get any on the list05:28
drbrowncgi-bin and this perl stuff w/ permisions changed????? sounds fishy to me05:28
Abetsicsensei: ok, thanks05:28
drbrowneither way I am going to have to start fresh I will test the HD05:29
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drbrownjik05:29
drbrownjic05:29
drbrownno05:29
Lynoureiain: hmm, then there is possibly something wrong05:29
drbrownI have not run fsck lately05:29
iaincan you help05:30
Lynoureiain: maybe, I'm a bit lazy today, though... So, which did you try,  apt-cache show  or  Add/Remove Programs?  and did you get any error messages?05:32
iainadd/remove programs but no error message05:33
Lynoureiain: and what is in the view? (if anything)05:34
drbrownI really appreciate all the help05:35
iainnothing, thats the problem05:35
drbrownwe'll see what knoppix can get05:35
drbrownexit05:35
Lynoureiain: then I'd like to see your sources.list , can you put it in pastebin?05:36
Lynoure!pastebin05:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:36
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iainwheres the paste bin05:38
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nico8481where do you handle the services? (sshd and such)05:39
Lynoureiain: see above, the message ubotu wrote05:40
iain deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted05:40
iain deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted05:40
iain05:40
iain ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the05:40
iain ## distribution.05:40
iain deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted05:40
iain deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted05:40
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Lynoureiain: that's exactly why pastebin instead of pasting on the channel05:41
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iaini don't know where it is05:41
iainbut carry on helping me please05:41
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Lynoureiain: see above, the message ubotu wrote05:42
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Lynoureiain: or, if it is no longer accessable for you because you flooded yourself off the channel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org05:42
iaini sent it in paste bin05:44
Lynoureiain: that is the url you got for that?05:44
iainwhat do you mean05:45
Lynoureiain: Where in the pastebin is it, exactly?05:46
iainhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1694305:47
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Lynoureiain: I found it. But next time you post something there, please don't claim to be Lynoure :)05:50
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iaini didn't know sorry05:51
BKajIs there a Utlity like Yareg , except that it can  read and extract files from ext3, in windows?05:51
Lynoureiain: your sources.list looks pretty fine.   If you do   sudo apt-get update   on console,  and then look at the Add/Remove Programs, do you get a list?05:52
knubbeanyone who has trouble with firefox crashing all the time? especially when watching movies (inside firefox) and sometimes on flash-sites?05:52
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Lynoureiain: basicly the only thing that was slightly off in the sources list were some leading spaces in the beginning of some lines, but those should not make a difference05:54
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TrackilizerI set the default MP3 player to XMMS, but everytime i click on a MP3 file it is opend by amarok.05:55
TrackilizerHow do i change this?05:55
nico8481is there a GUI tool to manage the system services ?05:57
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nico8481kcontrol05:57
nico8481oops05:57
nico8481wrong window05:57
Lynoure:)05:57
Lynourehappens to the best of them, occasionally05:58
iainthanks it works05:59
BKajLinux ReiserFS partitions can be read by Yareg , is there an equivalent read utility for ext3 partitions ?05:59
binanico8681: i think theres a program called bum that changes what services run at different different levels05:59
iainLynoure: thanks it works05:59
binanico8481: sorry that message was for you ^06:00
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nico8481bina: thanks... i found something in kcontrol... gonna check if it can start what i need...06:00
Lynoureiain: :)06:01
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binanico8481: cool06:01
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driz@t06:03
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|lostbyte|nico8481, kde_components > service manager :)06:03
nico8481thx :)06:03
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nico8481don't think it's there however... there's no sshd there... but i found it elsewhere in kcontrol06:05
imbrandon_anyone here on ppc dual booting with osx ?06:05
apolimbrandon_: i do, on a macmini06:05
h3sp4wnnico8481: sysv-rc-conf is the easiest thing to use for setting up services imo06:05
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|lostbyte|nico8481, system services :)06:05
imbrandon_apol: can you pastbin your yaboot.conf ? i cant get my osx to boot for somereason06:06
imbrandon_it wasent added to my yaboot.conf bedefault and i think i added it wrong06:06
apolimbrandon_: I'm sorry, I haven't got it here06:06
imbrandon_s/bedefault/by default06:06
imbrandon_ahh ok apol ;) thanks06:07
nico8481hmm it doesn't seem to manage to start the nfs-kernel-server daemon... says it can't start rpc mountd... any idea?06:07
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jvzis it possible to change the Actions sub-menu in Konqueror to just display on the main context menu?06:15
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drizPortugal=0 England=006:18
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wredekmail forgets my pop3 password despite me having ticked the box to remember it. I need to enter it anew each time I start kmail. Very annoying!06:22
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drizbut safe06:24
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kokashi there i'm using kubuntu with a pcmcia belkin wireless . how do i put this thing working?06:32
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h3sp4wnkokas: What is the full model number ?06:33
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kokas2h3sp4wn : f5dd701006:36
h3sp4wn!bcm43xx06:37
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:37
h3sp4wnYou need to install the broadcom firmware I think06:37
kokas2tks06:38
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visik7packages of kopete 0.12 for kubuntu exists ?06:55
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Blissexvisik7: that is a deeply philosophical question... Does 'visik7' exist? :-)06:56
h3sp4wnThe do exist but they are for 3.5.3 - And I can't remember where06:56
visik7is there a package of kopete 0.12.0 for kubuntu ?06:56
visik7h3sp4wn: yes infact06:57
visik7I have 3.5.206:57
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visik7and don't want to upgrade06:57
h3sp4wnBuild it yourself then06:57
visik7how ?06:57
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h3sp4wnHowever you like06:58
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visik7...06:58
kibai need help!06:58
kiba:$06:58
kibahow to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???06:58
h3sp4wnvisik: find the 3.5.3 packages - add the deb-src line from there apt-get source - then debuild -uc -us06:59
kiba:$:$:$06:59
bowler_iainCan anyone tell me how to install skype06:59
h3sp4wnvisik: There were in riddell's home directory on kubuntu.org (but I can't remember the exact link)06:59
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bowler_iainCan anyone tell me how to install skype07:00
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h3sp4wneasyubuntu is probably the easiest way07:01
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bowler_iainhelp!07:01
drizask your question stop saying HELP!!!07:01
bowler_iainCan anyone tell me how to install skype07:01
kiba how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???07:02
kiba how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???07:02
bowler_iainkiba: try kaffine?07:03
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kibano07:03
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kibawith kaffeine i cant see .mov07:03
h3sp4wnbowler_iain: skype is not free software hence not supported by {k}ubuntu - easyubuntu does support the installation of it however - Penguin liberation front has it however07:03
GullyFoyle,restricted07:04
kowalkiba: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats07:04
GullyFoyle!restricted07:04
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:04
bowler_iainit is cos you can download it from there website07:04
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h3sp4wnbowler_iain: start konsole and run wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb07:06
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h3sp4wn'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb'07:07
h3sp4wn'sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb' do it as 2 lines if you want the parts only inside ''07:07
DocTomoeHi ... I had to reinstall kubuntu because my /-partition was physically broken (in the truest sense of that word) ... somehow, the packages for build-essentials does no longer seem to exist, just as the linux kernel headers ... any idea on this?07:08
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bowler_iainthat does not work07:10
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Lynourebowler_iain: When something people recommend does not work, it makes things smoother if you tell them how. But you can also get easyubuntu and get it to install skype for you07:14
Lynoure!tell bowler_iain about easyubuntu07:14
bowler_iainhow does that work07:15
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Lynoure!easyubuntu07:17
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.07:17
Lynourebowler_iain: if you google for it, you'll find the answer prolly behind the first hit07:18
bowler_iainthanks07:18
h3sp4wnbowler_iain: I just tested what I told you to do and it worked perfectly what errors did you get07:24
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bowler_iaini just double click on the .deb (i'm very new to linux!!)07:25
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h3sp4wnyou have to install it with sudo dpkg -i (I don't know about clicking the deb)07:26
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Chryseus!mp307:27
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bowler_iainthanks07:42
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croogerhi all08:01
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croogeranyone knowns how to install kadu on kubuntu ?08:02
sotiredapt-get install kadu08:03
sotiredmaybe08:03
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sotiredi dont even know what kadu is08:03
sotiredhi gatekepper08:03
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gatekeeperhi sotired :-)08:03
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|lostbyte|crooger, sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://www.kadu.net/download/binary/ubuntu/repo dapper main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"08:04
|lostbyte|type that in terminal..08:04
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|lostbyte|when done.. do... sudo apt-get update08:04
|lostbyte|then do what sotired said.08:04
|lostbyte|sotired, its an instant messenger..08:05
sotiredoh.. i see08:05
|lostbyte|that supports gadu-gadu protocol.08:05
sotiredseems to be an abundance of them08:05
swaj_hmm08:05
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swaj_how do you get Konversation to not color everyone's nicknames?08:06
swaj_feels like a rainbow party08:06
|lostbyte|swaj_, Is there some where in its settings.. search08:06
croogerCzytanie list pakietw... Gotowe08:07
croogerW: GPG error: http://www.kadu.net dapper Release: Nastpujce sygnatury nie mogy zosta zweryfikowane z powodu braku klucza publicznego: NO_PUBKEY 5EC42C53D86A66BA08:07
croogerW: Naley uruchomi apt-get update aby naprawi te problemy.08:07
Blissexswaj_: #Konversation, but just do as <|lostbyte|> says08:07
croogerlostbyte: polish ?08:07
sotireduhhh...sure08:07
Blissexswaj_: BTW, that coloring is really important to follow what people say.08:07
sotiredi undertood 'problemy"08:07
croogerno czesc08:07
swaj_Blissex: nah, I find it annoying08:07
|lostbyte|crooger, english pls..08:07
croogerokey08:07
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Blissexswaj_: perhaps you want to change colors to some less garish ones...08:08
orient2000what is kadu?08:08
croogeri pasted messages what i have after "sudo apt-get update"08:08
croogerpolish gadu-gadu client08:09
|lostbyte|orient2000, its an IM that supports the gadu agadu prottocal .. very populat in poland.08:09
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|lostbyte|crooger, ok ! i'll want you to see the source.list08:09
|lostbyte|crooger, have you done this before ?08:10
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|lostbyte|crooger, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:11
croogerso.. what are we looking for08:11
|lostbyte|crooger, you have to see ===> deb http://www.kadu.net/download/binary/ubuntu/repo dapper main08:11
|lostbyte|at the bottom..08:11
|lostbyte|correct it if its wronge.08:11
orient2000Oh, I see but I do not like speak Polish :P08:12
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|lostbyte|alright ! if its the same.. save and close..08:12
swaj_I can't decide.... Kubuntu or Ubuntu... I like Gnome, but this new KDE is sexy too ><08:13
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croogeryeah08:13
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crooger|lostbyte|: the same08:13
|lostbyte|crooger, now type the following commands one after the other...08:14
|lostbyte|wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg.txt08:14
|lostbyte|sudo apt-key add gpg.txt08:14
|lostbyte|crooger, tell me when done.08:14
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crooger|lostbyte|: "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found" ... done :D08:15
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|lostbyte|ok ! this one..08:16
|lostbyte|wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg08:16
croogerdone08:17
|lostbyte|also second command.08:17
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croogerwhat command ?08:18
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|lostbyte| sudo apt-key add gpg.txt08:18
|lostbyte| sudo apt-key add gpg08:18
|lostbyte|this one ^08:18
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roadrunnerHey guys, I have a small process problem... it won't let me run Adept because it says something else is using the packaging database... would someone mind PMing me and helping me out please?08:19
crooger|lostbyte|: ok :-)08:19
|lostbyte|roadrunner, sudo killall adept08:19
|lostbyte|roadrunner, sudo killall apt-get08:19
|lostbyte|roadrunner, then try..08:19
roadrunnerwell, I did the sudo kpm08:19
roadrunnerand then from the graphical task manager, I killed all Adept processes08:20
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roadrunnerbut I will try it your way once and see what happens08:20
|lostbyte|roadrunner, dpkg --configure -a08:20
|lostbyte|roadrunner, and now try.08:20
crooger|lostbyte|: thats it ?08:20
|lostbyte|crooger, do the update now..08:20
|lostbyte|crooger, sudo apt-get update08:20
croogeroh... i'm so stupid :P08:20
roadrunner|lostbyte|: when I did what you said, and did the sudo kill all commands, it just says "no process killed"08:21
|lostbyte|roadrunner, thats good.. means no process is running..08:21
croogerdone08:22
|lostbyte|roadrunner, now try adept08:22
roadrunnerwait a minute08:22
roadrunnerI just now saw your other thing... dpkg command... what does that do/08:22
croogerwhere i can find it ?08:22
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|lostbyte|crooger, now...  ------> sudo apt-get install kadu08:22
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|lostbyte|crooger, that will install the program..08:22
croogernice08:23
croogerthanks08:23
DjDarkman19hy I compiled a game ,and I want to make a *.deb package so that my friends won`t have to compile it ,how do I package it?08:23
|lostbyte|crooger, After which you will find it in kmenu..08:23
roadrunnerhm... |lostbyte| that worked fine... adept opened right up08:23
|lostbyte|DjDarkman19, Read the packaging guide.08:23
croogeralso do you know how to change default language of KDE to polish ?08:23
roadrunnerbut if it didn't kill any processes why did it not open before?08:23
croogerin config i have only english08:24
roadrunnerif the processes were already killed, I don't see why it wouldn't open for me. The only thing I can think of was that dpkg command, but what did that do?08:24
croogerit's not problem but08:24
crazy_penguin|lostbyte|: hi!08:24
|lostbyte|roadrunner, Cool ! so remmber, everytime you db locks up.. run that command. it will reconfigure your db, removing all locak files..08:24
crazy_penguinh3sp4wn: ping08:24
|lostbyte|craffop, hi there..08:24
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DjDarkman19|lostbyte|: where is the packageing guide?08:26
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|lostbyte|crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl08:27
jmichaelxhas anyone in here ever gotten  a USB wireless adaptor to work with kubuntu?08:28
|lostbyte|DjDarkman19, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html08:28
|lostbyte|jmichaelx, i got my ovis link to work will ndiswrapper.08:28
kronozjmichaelx: yes08:28
kronozjmichaelx: tell us which model/version/specifics08:28
|lostbyte|crazy_penguin, hi there.08:28
|lostbyte|:)08:28
jmichaelxhow about a linksys?08:28
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kronoza linksys what08:29
|lostbyte|crooger, after installing that go to the same place you saw english..08:29
jmichaelxi have two... both a wusb54gs and wusb54g v.408:29
|lostbyte|jmichaelx, Do you have windows drivers for it ?08:30
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|lostbyte|jmichaelx, before that do a search on google.com linux compatibility..08:30
BoSJoHi all: This is driving me mad, almost every web page i visit fail to load the 1-2 last images, both Firefox and Knoqueror, any one got an idea what could be wrong?08:30
roadrunneroh, hey, |lostbyte| it still doesn't work... I have killed all processes that pertain to adept, but when I try to open the package manager it says it is loading, then it just dissapeard08:30
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jmichaelx|lostbyte|: i have the CDs  that came with them, but that is it at the moment08:31
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|lostbyte|roadrunner, huh ? run it in konsole. so we can see the debug info..08:31
kronozjmichaelx:08:31
kronozhttp://www.linuxcompatible.org/Installing_Linksys_WUSB54G_t32624.html08:31
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jmichaelxkronoz: ?08:32
jmichaelxahhh thank you08:32
|lostbyte|jmichaelx, lucky you :P08:32
roadrunner|lostbyte|: weird... when I typed adept open in the console, adept opened and ran fine... but when I try to open it from the GUI it doesn't work08:32
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jmichaelx|lostbyte|: just because it is on that list does not mean it will work for me lol08:33
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gatekeeperroadrunner: try kdesu adept start it up and kill it a couple of times see what happens08:34
|lostbyte|jmichaelx, that forum has a happy ending.. :P08:34
crooger|lostbyte|: last little question: how to install Polish lang. on KDE in Kubuntu ?08:34
themousehi, everyone, i have a problem compiling freetype with BCI enabled, i get08:34
themouse/bin/bash: dh_testdir: command not found08:34
themousemake: *** [clean]  Error 12708:34
|lostbyte|crooger, i just told you.. ^^^^^08:34
themousecan some one help me?08:35
roadrunnerwell, it was doing this to me last night too... it sucks, rebooting everything doesn't help either... it's a problem that won't go away >_<08:35
roadrunneroh, and I just installed kubuntu 2 days ago, it shouldnt be too screwed up08:35
|lostbyte|themouse, tell me about BCI.. :) does it really make microsoft fonts smooth ?08:35
croogerohh sorry08:36
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croogeri'm quite lost08:36
crooger:-)08:36
croogermy first linux :-)08:36
themousethat's what they say08:36
themouse:D08:36
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themousehttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84359.html08:36
|lostbyte|crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl08:36
themousehere's the HOWTO08:36
orient2000I am downloading easyubuntu. There is also PLF list. What is PLF list?08:36
roadrunnerhey, lostbyte, now I have a weird problem... when I get to Adept, and I click "Inspect changes" it shows me a list of all the things I sleected to install08:37
roadrunnerit also shows me a bunch of programs that are installed, but it says they are "Broken" and should be removed. Then there are bunch of other normal programs it says it wants to remove08:37
roadrunnerwhen I click changes are okay, proceed, it gives me the following error08:37
roadrunnerThere was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.08:37
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admin_hello08:38
admin_yo08:38
zorglu1roadrunner: try running adaptic (dunno the name) it will provide you a line to type08:39
zorglu1wow this is real helpfull :)08:39
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roadrunnerit says command not found08:40
zorglu1dpkg --configure -a08:40
|lostbyte|roadrunner, done one thing..08:40
|lostbyte|purge it and then reinstall..08:40
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zorglu1roadrunner: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal08:40
|lostbyte|zorglu1, told him that already..08:40
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roadrunnerzorglu1: I did that, but what did iit do?08:40
zorglu1ok didnt follow :)08:40
|lostbyte|zorglu1, still the problem persists.. after the next exit..08:41
zorglu1roadrunner: listen to lostbyte08:41
roadrunnerzorglu1: I dont understand what that command did though, lol08:41
|lostbyte|roadrunner, here.. do this..08:41
|lostbyte|roadrunner, sudo apt-get --purge remove adept08:41
themouse|lostbyte|, anything for me?08:42
roadrunnercrap08:42
roadrunnerwait... I have another un related question first08:42
roadrunnerit keeps telling me I am un registered in IRC and can't PM, even though I already registered. How do I reindentify myself with my registered account?08:43
roadrunnerI can't remember what to do08:43
kbrooksorient2000: the PLF repoitory i a repoitory with many packages08:43
kbrooksroadrunner: /msg nickerv identify pass08:43
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croogeris there anything what you, |lostbyte| don't know ? :-)08:43
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croogerreally big thx08:43
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kbrooksorient2000: the packages in plf are nonfree (not free as in speech)08:44
themouseroadrunner and then /msg nickserv set unfiltered on08:44
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roadrunner_ok... do you have to re identify everytime? Because it keeps telling me that >_<08:44
roadrunner_everytime I log in I have to re-identify08:44
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|lostbyte|themouse, you need debhelper08:45
|lostbyte|apt-get install debhelper08:45
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, xchat ?08:45
crooger\server irc.php.pl08:46
themouse|lostbyte| 10x08:46
themouseI'll try it08:46
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roadrunner_|lostbyte|: what?08:47
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: I did what you said, I pm'ed you with the output...08:47
roadrunner_Reading package lists... Done08:47
roadrunner_Building dependency tree... Done08:47
roadrunner_E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.08:47
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, which command ?08:47
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: there, just in case you didn't see it, that is what it said when I did your command.08:47
kbrooksroadrunner_: um, uh08:47
roadrunner_ sudo apt-get --purge remove adept08:47
themouse|lostbyte|, there's another error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"08:47
kbrooksroadrunner_: did you change your sources.list (even if thru adept)08:48
zorglu1!essential build08:48
ubotuI know nothing about essential build08:48
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kbrookszorglu1: !build-essential08:48
kbrooks!build-essential08:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)08:48
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|lostbyte|themouse, you need that ^08:48
larson9999this linux thing rocks! i think i'll keep it08:48
zorglu1kbrooks: wasnt that far :)08:49
|lostbyte|larson9999, good choise !08:49
kbrookszorglu1, |lostbyte|: ue !factoid > user08:49
roadrunner_kbrooks: I don't know how to do that... how would I change the sources.list?08:49
kbrooksroadrunner_: well, adept changes it for you08:49
larson9999|lostbyte|: i don't know if i trust the judgement of someone with a pipe in his name.08:50
kbrooksroadrunner_: did you disable multiverse recently?08:50
roadrunner_-_-08:50
larson9999|lostbyte|: made the choice in 97 actually :)08:50
roadrunner_Im a linux noob, sorry08:50
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, this is the list --> /etc/apt/sources.list08:50
roadrunner_Im an A+ windows man... so I don't know what you mean08:50
kbrooksroadrunner_: um. did you JUST install kubuntu08:50
roadrunner_the only thing I did with "multiverse" was added it to one server in adept to allow me to download new packages08:50
roadrunner_and yes, I did, just 2 days ago08:50
kbrooksroadrunner_: it seems like you added multivere already08:50
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|lostbyte|larson9999, wow ! and now you found out it rocks.. to late..:P08:51
roadrunner_I guess I did... another guy walked me through adding a repository so I could download more packages08:51
kbrooksroadrunner_: okay. so did you disable it recently? sun java is in there08:51
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roadrunner_I added "multiverse" to the one server name, but that's it... just so I could download packages08:51
roadrunner_is sun java in where? In my package list?08:51
kbrooksroadrunner_: in multiverse.08:51
larson9999|lostbyte|: actually i found out it rocks in '99 when i was finally able to get a joystick and printer working properly :)08:52
roadrunner_how do you get to multiverse? I don't even know what multiverse is...08:52
roadrunner_Im a noob sorry08:52
kbrooksroadrunner_: well, obviously no one explained it to you08:52
kbrooksroadrunner_: no, i dont want to pm you08:52
roadrunner_ok, then never mind...08:52
roadrunner_but no, I have no idea what multiverse is08:53
|lostbyte|larson9999, :) took you 3 years to get your joy and printer working :P08:53
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larson9999|lostbyte|: to get them working correctly?  that it did08:53
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kbrooksroadrunner_: multiverse contain packages that are not free software, that is software that you dont have the permission to edit and redistribute and copy08:54
roadrunner_oh08:54
|lostbyte|larson9999, for me it was just plug in and there js0 wsa created..08:54
roadrunner_do you have to pay for them? Or are they still free, just not open source?08:54
|lostbyte|larson9999, what distro did you start with ?08:54
larson9999|lostbyte|: well two really.08:54
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kbrooksroadrunner_: universe contains packages that MAY or may not be free software08:54
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roadrunner_ok, well, what was I looking for?08:55
kbrooksroadrunner_: vmware (er, the workstation version) is not inclluded in ubuntu anywhere08:55
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larson9999|lostbyte|: suse and mandrake off and on trying to get those two things installed.  i couldn't find ANYONE who used a js through the soundcard gameport.  finally i found a site that explained it clearly08:55
roadrunner_sun-java5-bin?08:55
kbrooksroadrunner_: so most in multiverse are free08:55
kbrooksroadrunner_: exactly08:55
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roadrunner_is that what you said to look for?08:55
roadrunner_ok, well, it is installed08:56
h3sp4wnroadrunner: qemu with kqemu is almost as quick as vmware workstation08:56
roadrunner_I opened adept manager and it says sun-java5-bin is installed08:56
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larson9999|lostbyte|: and the printer worked but had a pixellating problem that it took a bit for me to track down08:56
|lostbyte|larson9999, that i can understand..08:56
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kbrooksroadrunner_: show the error again?08:57
roadrunner_so now what should I do?08:57
roadrunner_ok, just a sec08:57
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larson9999|lostbyte|: i think part of the problem too was that lots of the people i had helping me were using old, stable kernels and i was using the new one and things were in the middle of big changes back then.  like even now some of those guys probably don't use modprobe08:58
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roadrunner_ok, when I open the adept installed and go to install something, I click inspect changes. Then, the windows that shows your changes it filled with a bunch of packages that say "BROKE (Installed)" And then just some other "Installed" programs that it wants to remove08:59
larson9999|lostbyte|: things are so easy now :)08:59
roadrunner_and then of course the package that I selected to installed are there too... so I hit changes are okay, proceed. Cuz I don't know what broken packages are, but it suggested removing them, so I figured I would do whatever it says08:59
roadrunner_th when I hit process, I get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.09:00
|lostbyte|larson9999, you can say that again..09:00
|lostbyte|Linux Rocks :P09:00
kbrookshah09:01
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|lostbyte|actually its the community + packaging system + linux that makes it rock09:02
|lostbyte|and ubuntu has it all..09:02
afm\colossusit's GNU that makes Linux rock, really09:02
afm\colossusand the philosophy behind Free Software09:02
roadrunner_so... what should I do09:03
roadrunner_why does it keep giving me that error, and why are there all of these "broken" links09:03
roadrunner_do... "broken" packages I mean09:03
roadrunner_gah... I can't type today... but anyways, do you know why I would be having that problem?09:04
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|lostbyte|afm\colossus, Arg ! how could i forget the lovely gnu project..09:05
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: you still available? You were heklping me earlier...09:06
deuce868anyone suggest a good chm viewer for kde I can use? Looking at getting the php docs downloaded and want to be able to pull it up.09:06
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: but now I cant download or install any new packages because it keeps giving me an error...09:06
dna_will there be any 2.6.x kernel upgrades to dapper?09:06
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, do you get the same error ?09:06
roadrunner_do you unerstand my problem so far?09:06
afm\colossusdna_: no, i don't think so09:06
|lostbyte|dna_, not at the moment..09:06
afm\colossusthis would totally break policies09:06
|lostbyte|yes, there will obiously, time will tell..09:07
roadrunner_Whenever I click to get the updates, it shows everything I slected to install, and a bunch of broken packages. I have no idea how I got a bunch of broken packages.09:07
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roadrunner_but then when I click to send the packages, it says it cant and gives me the following error09:07
dna_oki09:08
roadrunner_There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.09:08
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, so adept is still there ?09:08
gatekeeperroadrunner_: broken usually means some of the 'library' files that are needed to run the program, ie files that it is dependant on are not there, not sure if that is true in your case or whether something is more fundermentally broken09:08
roadrunner_yeah, I can open adept and stuff09:08
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, i'll pass u my source.list just replace yours..09:08
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roadrunner_and yeah, I figured that was what broken meant... and it says it is going to uninstall them, but whenever I do that is just gives me that error09:08
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|lostbyte|roadrunner_, Before, we do that just try one last thing..09:09
|lostbyte|do..09:09
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nalioth!multimedia > cute_bettong09:09
|lostbyte|sudo apt-get -f install09:09
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dna_is there some development repository where I can find kernel upgrades? A kubuntu -current?09:10
|lostbyte|and try again..09:10
ozmodiarI have some troubles with my X, on kubuntu dapper. I must login trough recovery mode and then manualy start x (startx), otherwise a nvidia logo show up on the monitor and nothing more happends. Please help me...09:10
|lostbyte|dna_, if there will be one, it will come in main.09:10
roadrunner_E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.09:10
roadrunner_I get that error whenever I do that command09:10
gatekeeperdna_: do you want to compile your own kernel?09:10
|lostbyte|"sudo apt-get -f install"          ...only09:10
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, ^09:11
roadrunner_the problem is, I cant uninstall or reinstall java, because the stupid package manager wont let me do anything09:11
|lostbyte|ozmodiar, are you in home dir ?09:11
roadrunner_Reading package lists... Done09:11
roadrunner_Building dependency tree... Done09:11
roadrunner_E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.09:11
roadrunner_that is the error I receive when I run that command09:11
BrigadierFroghow would I make sure that some binary takes precedence over another with the PATH env var09:11
BrigadierFroglike say I have two versions of qmake09:11
BrigadierFrogone in /usr/local/bin and one in /usr/bin09:12
BrigadierFroghow would I make sure the /usr/local/bin has precedence09:12
ozmodiar|lostbyte|: Eh?09:12
james_xxxif someone has the time, i would appreciate being walked through setting up ndiswrapper to work with a linksys wireless usb adapter... this insructions are at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L and the adapter is WUSB54GS v.209:12
|lostbyte|BrigadierFrog, huh ! the way its displayed in $PATH i woould guess.09:12
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BrigadierFrogits not though09:12
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, ubuntu.com > wiki > search "nidiwrapper" has a guide.09:13
dna_gatekeeper: I need support for atheros 5005 chipset and I don't want to compile my own kernel because, 1. not sure how to do it with grub and kubuntu and 2, I will now get critical updates to my kernel then so from the moment I compile my own kernel I will always have to compile my own kernels :(09:13
|lostbyte|"ndiswrapper"*09:13
BrigadierFrog /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin09:13
james_xxx|lostbyte|: my question trouble is somewhat specific to this adapter09:13
BrigadierFrogwhich qmake says /usr/bin/qmake09:13
|lostbyte|BrigadierFrog, so there you go, am not sure by the way.. just a thought.09:13
gatekeeperdna_: ok :-)09:13
dna_gatekeeper: but it is tempting :-)09:14
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: what should I do now09:14
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gatekeeperdna_: I have never tried it but there is a nice HowTo in the ubuntu forums that walks you through the process09:15
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crimsunroadrunner_: do you have all the repos enabled?09:15
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, hold on..09:15
dna_oki, I can compile kernels on slackware and lilo so kubuntu with grub can't be so much diffrent anyway09:16
roadrunner_crimsun: all of them? I don't know. Some guy walked me through opening up one repository, that way I could get more packages09:16
roadrunner_but I can't get any packages right now... I get an error09:16
crimsunroadrunner_: apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin09:16
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gatekeeperdna_: here is a buch or repos don't know if any of them will help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories09:16
roadrunner_and when I do the "Inspect changes" it finds alot of broken packages09:16
dna_gatekeeper: I have looked at that page already :)09:17
dna_enabled universe09:17
dna_btw, what is multiverse?09:17
crimsun!components09:17
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:17
crimsundna_: read that.09:17
roadrunner_crimsun: I just did what you said... it just showed me my java version and stuff09:18
dna_oki, thanks09:18
crimsunroadrunner_: I need the output pastebinned09:18
ncallerI am running dapper mp3's work fine in most applications (yes I have installed support following the wiki), however when I try to create an audio CD in K3B and drag an mp3 file into the project I get "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:" any ideas?09:18
roadrunner_paste binned?09:18
roadrunner_I don't know what that means09:18
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dna_ah, "not free" software09:18
|lostbyte|dna_, The "multiverse" component contains software that is "not free"09:19
crimsun!paste09:19
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:19
crimsunroadrunner_: read that.09:19
roadrunner_!paste09:19
roadrunner_...09:20
roadrunner_what do I put under name?09:20
roadrunner_my name? Or your name?09:20
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, your name..09:20
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, just replace mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16951 with yours and update..09:21
roadrunner_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695209:21
roadrunner_lol.. I made one09:21
roadrunner_so now what?09:24
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james_xxxdoes anyone know what BCMRNDIS.INF is, and where one can get it?09:24
|lostbyte|james_xxx, its a driver file for windows.09:25
james_xxx|lostbyte|: i thought so, the instructions i am looking at refer to it, i have googled it, but i still cannot figure out where to find it09:26
roadrunner_crimsun: did you get my paste bin?09:26
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, See if its not in the driver cd you already have..09:26
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james_xxx|lostbyte|: not that i can tell09:26
roadrunner_|lostbyte|:  I appear to have been ditched... would you be able to help me go throught his again?09:27
crimsunroadrunner_: looking now.09:27
roadrunner_|lostbyte|: I just need someone to spend like, 10 minutes with me without leaving, lol09:27
roadrunner_crimsun: ah... my bad =D I thought you left09:27
james_xxxi can wait for roadrunner to be helped lol09:27
roadrunner_well, I just keep switching between two people09:28
roadrunner_lol... I need to just pick one and stick with them09:28
roadrunner_so it's partially my fault =D09:28
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crimsunroadrunner_: there're no lines like the following?09:29
crimsun     1.5.0-06-1 009:29
crimsun        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages09:29
|lostbyte|james_xxx, FOUND !09:29
|lostbyte|james_xxx, http://www.belkin.com/support/download/downloaddetails.asp?download=1871&lang=109:29
roadrunner_Installed: 1.5.0-06-109:29
roadrunner_  Candidate: 1.5.0-06-109:29
roadrunner_  Version table:09:29
roadrunner_ *** 1.5.0-06-1 009:29
roadrunner_        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status09:29
roadrunner_that is all it said, right there... no more, no less09:30
james_xxx|lostbyte|: thank you so much... i'll check that out right now09:30
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crimsunroadrunner_: then your active sources.list is missing multiverse completely.09:30
roadrunner_lol09:30
crimsunroadrunner_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list09:30
|lostbyte|james_xxx, You got to extract that.. try wine or something..09:30
roadrunner_how do I open that? What should I open it with?09:30
james_xxx|lostbyte|: ok i have downloaded that...09:30
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roadrunner_Like I said, complete noob with Kubuntu, so what is the name of a text editor it uses?09:31
crimsunroadrunner_: kate, cat, more, whatever.09:31
james_xxx|lostbyte|: ok, i was wondering how to do that in linux09:31
roadrunner_kate, that's right, thanks09:31
|lostbyte|james_xxx, huh ! Use wine..09:31
james_xxx|lostbyte|: sorry for my noobishness, i have learned a lot the last few months, but have a long ways to go... i have never used wine09:32
roadrunner_crimsun: I know I am an idiot... but what do I type to open it in Kate from the command prompt?09:32
roadrunner_do I just type kate filename?09:33
crimsunroadrunner_: just ``cat /etc/apt/sources.list''09:33
crimsunyou don't need to open it09:33
|lostbyte|james_xxx, Then try to install that file in windows.. and search for that inf file..09:33
roadrunner_I thought I needed to open it to copy/paste the contents to the paste bin...?09:33
MetaMorfoziShow can i set to transparent the date and time on kicker?09:33
roadrunner_and yes, I just "kate sources.list" and it opened it... so I should just copy/paste that into the paste bin?09:34
crimsunroadrunner_: yes09:34
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roadrunner_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695609:35
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caribou7Does anyone here use the Krusader file manager?09:35
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, noooo... sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:35
|lostbyte|roadrunner_, sorry ! i dont want to interrupt.. simply ignore me..09:36
crimsunroadrunner_: line 16 has a typo09:36
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|lostbyte|AFK..09:36
roadrunner_how did it get a typo?09:36
roadrunner_OOOOH09:37
roadrunner_When I changed that in adpet09:37
roadrunner_adept*09:37
roadrunner_gee... I wonder how I typoed it?09:37
caribou7Okay, nobody uses Krusader... how about this has anyone managed to install winetools?09:37
crimsunsimple. You made a typo.09:37
roadrunner_I changed that in adept, and I made a typo09:37
crimsunJust fix the typo, refresh, and go on with your life.09:37
roadrunner_right... but I didn't know that changing it in adept would change that file...09:37
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roadrunner_I don't know what I am doing, lol09:38
roadrunner_thanks alot crimsun... may seem simple to you, but I wouldn't know how to fix it =D09:38
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themouse|lostbyte|, I advanced on the compiling, but now i get another error :@09:38
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themousemake[1] : *** [/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10/obj/grx11.o]  Error 109:38
themousemake[1] : Leaving directory `/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10'09:38
themousemake: *** [build-stamp]  Error 209:38
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nimixj09:40
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gatekeeperthemouse: use pastebin easier for evryone to see09:40
themouse?09:40
james_xxx|lostbyte|: i just used wine to extract that file, but i have no idea where it extracted it to LOL09:40
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gatekeeper!pastebin09:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:40
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themouseok09:42
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caribou7No one uses krusader or winetools? Guess I'll try again some other time.09:42
james_xxxif you extract a file using wine, where does it extract to?09:43
|lostbyte|brb 10 min09:43
afm\colossusjames_xxx: to wine's per-user-basedir09:44
james_xxxok09:45
james_xxxafm\colossus: ty09:45
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james_xxxafm\colossus: next dumb question... how do i find that dir?09:47
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afm\colossusjames_xxx: it's probably ~/.wine/drive_c/09:48
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james_xxxhmm09:48
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themouseit's hidden in your home dir09:49
themousein Konqueror View > Show hidden files09:49
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james_xxxthemouse: ty09:50
themouse?09:50
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james_xxxok this is confusing as hell09:52
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themousewhat exactly?09:53
james_xxxi extracted that file using wine, and i am now in the .wine dir, but i see nothing of what i just extracted09:53
|lostbyte|james_xxx, hi :)09:53
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, if your in the dir..09:54
james_xxx|lostbyte|: hi lol09:54
|lostbyte|james_xxx, do ..09:54
|lostbyte|find | grep -i BCMRNDIS.INF09:54
themouse|lostbyte|, can you help me with ^ error?09:55
james_xxx|lostbyte|: i entered that, nothing happened09:55
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, I should display the inf.09:55
|lostbyte|find | grep -i *.INF09:56
afm\colossusnonono09:56
james_xxxhmmm09:56
afm\colossusfind . -iname "*.inf"09:56
|lostbyte|-name09:56
james_xxxok, do i need to cd to the .wine dir before i enter all of that?09:56
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afm\colossus|lostbyte|: no, iname09:57
afm\colossusfor case-insensitivity09:57
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, ok !09:57
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|lostbyte|cool ! nice to know.09:57
themouse|lostbyte|, did you forget me :)09:58
themouse^09:58
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|lostbyte|themouse, no ! lolz..09:58
james_xxxugh, command not found09:58
themouse:)09:58
|lostbyte|themouse, error ?09:59
|lostbyte|oh ! i see09:59
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|lostbyte|could you paste a little more lines of the error in.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org10:00
themousew810:00
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james_xxxafm\colossus: i am still unable to locate that file10:01
__osh__is there a known problem with katapult in dapper?10:02
themouse|lostbyte| http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695710:02
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, that command does'nt work for me too..10:02
afm\colossus|lostbyte|: how does it fail?10:03
james_xxxshould i not be able to just see that .inf file using konqueror?10:03
|lostbyte|themouse, looks to me like a programming error, which is not in my expertease.10:04
afm\colossusjames_xxx: depens on where it resides, huh? :>10:04
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james_xxxafm\colossus: i am sure it does... but none of those commands worked10:04
afm\colossusthemouse: may i ask you why you are compiling freetype yourself?10:05
themousebecause10:05
james_xxxi was just trying to look in all of the .wine folders10:05
afm\colossusjames_xxx: well, then it's not there, or the file's name differs10:05
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themousei want to enable Bytecode interpreter10:05
h3sp4wnwhich type of bytecode ?10:05
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james_xxxafm\colossus: ok, i just don't get what wine did when in unzipped the .exe file.... it extracted to nowhere10:06
afm\colossustry this: find / -iname "*.inf"10:06
gatekeeperthemouse: flags is a member of a struct or class but does not appear to be in the original declaration of the struct or class, could be a missing member could be a missing .h file10:06
afm\colossusmaybe it extracted to somewhere under /tmp10:06
|lostbyte|afm\colossus, My Wronge.. i apologize.10:06
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james_xxxafm\colossus: it is now listing HUNDREDS of .inf files10:07
afm\colossuswell, then refine your search criterias10:07
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/10:07
crazy_penguini wish a good night to all! take care!10:07
|lostbyte|james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/drivers/10:08
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james_xxx|lostbyte|: no such file or directory10:08
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, I dought you installed the driver..10:09
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james_xxx|lostbyte|: i downloaded the file, and i extracted it with wine10:09
|lostbyte|james_xxx, extracted it where ?10:09
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|lostbyte|was it an extract or an install ?10:09
james_xxx|lostbyte|: how in the world am i supposed to know that?10:10
james_xxxthat is what i am trying to figure out10:10
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, did it ask you where you wanted to extract..  ?10:10
james_xxx|lostbyte|: no, it didn't10:10
|lostbyte|james_xxx, did the program tell you that the installation is over ?10:11
james_xxxwinzip cam up and asked if i wanted to extract that file, i clicked 'ok'10:11
JIuHgeMaHHhello. how can i enable preview of jpegs in konqueror?10:11
Ardarandirjames_xxx: WINZIP?10:11
Ardarandirwtf?10:11
gatekeeperjames_xxx: winzip didn't indicate the location??10:12
james_xxx|lostbyte|: no, i said it was done extracting, but nothing about installing10:12
james_xxxgatekeeper: no, not at all10:12
themousegatekeeper how can i fix that10:12
james_xxxit*10:12
Ardarandirjames_xxx: have a look at C:\temp10:12
gatekeeper|lostbyte|: sounds like a self extractor10:12
james_xxxArdarandir: i am not in windows10:12
Ardarandirjames_xxx: so why do you use winzip?10:13
gatekeeperjames_xxx: have you access to winzip?10:13
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|lostbyte|james_xxx, huh..10:13
admin_hello10:13
admin_who can help me10:13
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james_xxxi was trying to unzip the file using wine... and winzip just came up. shocked me too.10:13
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Ardarandiradmin_: just ask you questiobn10:14
gatekeeperthemouse: without looking at the C/C++ code I wouldn't know, is this a tarball you downloaded?10:14
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Ardarandirjames_xxx: so you DO have a C:/temp ! have a look there!10:14
|lostbyte|admin_, Aak and though shall recieve. :P10:14
james_xxxArdarandir: on my windoes partition?10:15
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Ardarandirjames_xxx: no - on you VIRTUAL c-drive inside wine!10:15
Ardarandirjames_xxx: usually /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c/10:15
gatekeeperArdarandir: he ought to be able to open this file with winzip and look inside one way or another10:15
james_xxxArdarandir: that file is empty10:16
Ardarandirjames_xxx: this oughta be your wine-main-directory!10:16
Ardarandirno file10:16
Ardarandira dir!10:16
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james_xxxi have neve rused wine before, i just installed wine a few minutes ago10:17
riochhow do i close down the xserver10:17
Ardarandirjames_xxx: this dir should be set up anyway...10:17
Ardarandirgatekeeper: but what for?10:17
riochctrl-alt-backspace restarts it, but i want to shut it down completely.10:17
Ardarandirrioch: the whole system or only the xserver?10:17
james_xxxArdarandir: it is there, but it is empty10:18
riochArdarandir: just the xserver.10:18
Ardarandirrioch: sry, so i dont know10:18
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Ardarandirjames_xxx: so wine has not been set up correctly10:18
Ardarandirjames_xxx: all thoose DLLs should be there10:18
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Ardarandirjames_xxx: anyway, why do you want to extract it with WINZIP?10:19
james_xxxArdarandir: i did no setting up at all, i just installed it from Adept, and when i clicked on the .exe file, winzip came up10:19
Ardarandirjames_xxx: i cant believe - you are sure you use a Kubuntu-System?10:19
james_xxxArdarandir: i never said that i wanted to extract it with winzip10:20
james_xxxArdarandir: geesh, yes, i am using kubuntu10:20
Ardarandirthere is no programme called WinZip with Kubuntu!10:20
gatekeeperArdarandir: he seems to have extracted a file (using winzip) that he has downloaded but has no idea where it is, if he examines the contents of what he downloaded he will be able to find the file by looking for it using it's exact name to locate it10:20
Ardarandirwhere did you get it?10:20
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james_xxxArdarandir: where did i get what?10:20
Ardarandirwinzip!10:21
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Ardarandirhow did you get winzip on your kubuntu - if you did not use wine???10:21
Ardarandirthats impossible, isnt it?10:21
james_xxxArdarandir: look, i just installed wine about 5 or 6 minutes ago... how it found winzip after i clicked on the .exe file, i have no idea10:21
gatekeeperArdarandir: I think what he downloaded was a self-extractor that uses winzip to extract10:21
james_xxxArdarandir: i DID use wine! i have said that over and over10:22
Ardarandirgatekeeper: good idea :)10:22
gatekeeperArdarandir: program association :-)10:22
Ardarandirjames_xxx: but you did not install winzip, right?10:22
james_xxxgatekeeper: yes, it was a self-extractor10:22
Ardarandirok, i understand10:22
james_xxxArdarandir: no, i didn't install winzip10:22
james_xxxArdarandir: as you can tell, i am totally befuddled by all of this lol10:22
Ardarandirthe problem is to get compressed files out of an selfextracting winzip-archive!10:22
james_xxxahh10:23
Ardarandirright?10:23
gatekeeperjames_xxx: if you open this self-extracting file using winzip you can examine it's contents10:23
james_xxxdon't ask me lol10:23
james_xxxhmmm10:23
Ardarandirjames_xxx: is there no possibility to send it to a friend of yours who is using windows?10:23
james_xxxgatekeeper: i have no idea where to find the contents10:23
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Ardarandirjames_xxx: he coul dextract it for you and send it back...10:23
james_xxxArdarandir: i have sveral computers with windows installed10:24
gatekeeperjames_xxx: start winzip -> File -> Open -> downloaded file10:24
mcrandelloyou could try changing the filename to .zip and using ark to get to the contents10:24
Ardarandirjames_xxx: if you double-click on that .exe-archive, usually you are prompted to give a directoy to extract to10:24
mcrandellothat sometimes works with self extractors10:24
james_xxxArdarandir: that is what i am used to in windows, but it did not ask10:24
james_xxxgatekeeper: i am using kubuntu10:25
gatekeeperjames_xxx: with wine?10:25
james_xxxgatekeeper: yes10:25
Ardarandirjames_xxx: if there is none given, it is usually extracted to C:/temp - wheter it is wine or windows, it doesnt matter... or just tell me, what does exist inside $HOME/.wine/drive_c/10:26
gatekeeperjames_xxx: so go to wine and start winzip up10:26
Ardarandirmcrandello: ure sure?10:26
Ardarandirgatekeeper: he hasnt got winzip so far, as i understood it!10:26
mcrandelloI've done that with self-extractors in windows to use winrar or 7zip10:26
gatekeeperArdarandir: that would probable work too :-)10:27
mcrandelloit *may* work in linux10:27
james_xxxbrb10:27
Ardarandirjames_xxx: first of all you have to create an security-copie of your .exe-File!10:27
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mcrandelloafaik most self extractors are a small executable at the very beginning of a .zip file, and the whole kit is renamed to an exe10:27
Ardarandirsounds logical10:27
james_xxxmodule not found lol10:27
mcrandelloworst case you can just change the extension back10:27
Ardarandirin winXP i did it once, too, i remember..10:28
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james_xxxok i am totally lost10:28
Ardarandirmcrandello: do copy it first is always the right ide ;)10:28
gatekeepermcrandello: correct!10:28
Ardarandirjames_xxx: you did a security copy?10:28
james_xxxArdarandir: no i didn't10:28
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mcrandellothe security copy is where you got it from ;P10:28
Ardarandirjames_xxx: do it!10:29
james_xxxi do not know what you are telling me to do10:29
Ardarandirmcrandello: you never know...10:29
mcrandellotrue10:29
gatekeeperI am sure you are right!10:29
james_xxxexplain to me whay i need to copy the .exe file?10:30
Ardarandirjames_xxx: just do a copy of you file to another directory!10:30
Ardarandirjames_xxx: to restore it in case sth goes wrong!10:30
Ardarandirargh10:30
james_xxxArdarandir: i can just download it again10:30
Ardarandirkk10:30
Ardarandirso plz10:30
Ardarandirjust rename the file from .exe to .zip10:30
mcrandellojames_xxx: change the filename from foo.exe to foo.zip then just click on it10:31
james_xxxfoo?10:31
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Ardarandirjust rename the file from .exe to .zip!10:31
mcrandellowhere "foo" is the part of the filename in front of .exe10:31
Ardarandirjust rename the file from .exe to .zip! <---10:31
mcrandellojames_xxx: you'll see "foo" a lot in linux howtos, it's a variable of sorts10:31
james_xxxok, it is now a .zip10:32
mcrandellonow click that puppy10:32
james_xxxclick on it?10:32
james_xxxk10:32
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Ardarandirjust try to unzip it...10:32
Ardarandirshould work10:32
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ninHerhi all10:33
james_xxxArdarandir: ok it unzipped10:33
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gatekeeperwoohoo!10:33
gatekeepernice one mcrandello10:33
james_xxxall of this to get some crappy usb wireless adapter to work, that probably has no chance.... lol10:34
mcrandelloonce in a while I know an answer :)10:34
james_xxxlol10:34
james_xxxty mcrandello10:34
roadrunnermsg nickserv identify covalt968110:34
Ardarandirgreat mcrandello :)10:34
mcrandellothis is the windows wireless driver?10:34
Ardarandirlol10:34
james_xxxmcrandello: yes10:34
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mcrandelloI can almost gaurantee it won't10:34
james_xxxmcrandello: some people have got it to work on other systems10:34
Ardarandirroadrunner_: i would propose to change your pw by now *lol*10:35
mcrandellolet us know if it does10:35
gatekeepermcrandello: would need ndiswrapper wouldn't he?10:35
james_xxxgatekeeper: yes10:35
mcrandellooic what you're saying10:35
Ardarandiri guess i better stick with the german #kubuntu-de channel *smile*10:35
james_xxxit is a linksys WUSB54GS v.410:35
Ardarandirgood bye :=10:35
mcrandelloit's like those scanner drivers with sane that require the firmware to work10:35
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james_xxxArdarandir:  dein englisch ist perfekt10:36
mcrandelloanyone running xgl?10:36
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gatekeepermcrandello: I think there is a conversation taking place about XGL in #ubuntu10:39
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mcrandellogatekeeper: thx10:39
gatekeepermcrandello: hope I am right :-)10:40
afm\colossusanyone in here with an ASUS A8S-X mainboard?10:40
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tmdx120Hello all!10:40
mcrandellogatekeeper: they just got told to go to ubuntu-xgl ehe10:40
tmdx120Im having trouble getting my wireless 2100 pci laptop card to work. Any ideas?10:41
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james_xxxok, one more question about zip archives..... i am wanting to use a driver that is in that file that i just unzipped. when ndiswrapper asks for the driver location, i still do not know what to tell it....10:45
james_xxxgatekeeper: you think you could help me with this?10:49
james_xxxor anyone?10:49
mcrandellojames_xxx: where did you unzip it10:50
mcrandelloare the files all on your desktop?10:50
james_xxxmcrandello: no, they are not on my desktop10:51
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mcrandellowhere was the zip file?10:51
james_xxxin a folder i made named /wifi10:51
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mcrandelloopen up a terminal10:52
james_xxxopened10:52
mcrandellocd /wifi10:53
|lostbyte|BAZIL LOST !!!!!!!10:53
|lostbyte|I feel so bad..10:53
james_xxxafter i unzipped, a window cam up with a list of all the extracted contents, and at the top it says 'file///home/james/wifi/F5D7051.zip - Ark'10:53
|lostbyte|:(10:53
james_xxxok i did the cd10:54
mcrandellotype ls10:54
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james_xxxmcrandello: that is what i was afraid of, all it lists is the .zip folder10:55
ninHeri need a non-spanish girlfriend10:55
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ninHerany kde software for that issue ?10:55
ninHer;-)10:55
mcrandellotype unzip F5D7051.zip10:55
james_xxxninHer: i need a non-chinese one, maybe we can trade10:55
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|lostbyte|ninHer, yeah ! kdegirlfriend :P10:56
ninHeruhmm, i'll think about it10:56
mcrandellothen try ls again10:56
afm\colossusi need a non-virtual one10:56
afm\colossusanyone interested?10:56
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james_xxxafm\colossus: i think i need to upgrade to a virtual one10:56
ninHerok, if you find one, let me know10:56
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james_xxx:-D10:56
|lostbyte|My girfriend is broken.. need a new one..10:57
gatekeepermcrandello: no one able to help you with xgl?10:57
james_xxxmcrandello: ok , i did that10:57
ninHerwell, mine is perfect; that's why i need a new one10:57
mcrandellogatekeeper: it's like I'm the only one with this problem10:58
ninHermay be i am lucky in the next lan party here in spain10:58
mcrandellojames_xxx: it showing the files?10:58
gatekeepermcrandello: sorry :-(10:58
james_xxxmcrandello: ok that was  a big help... yes, it shows them10:58
mcrandelloalright now type "pwd"10:58
mcrandellothen higlight what it tells you10:59
mcrandelloand then go back to where it wants the directory they're in and then click with the _middle_ mouse button10:59
james_xxxmcrandello: oops, i already added the .inf to ndiswrapper10:59
mcrandellooh10:59
mcrandellowhatever works :)11:00
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mcrandelloif you're going to have more than one user on the machine you may want to make a directory at the top level called /opt and put them in s subdirectory of that11:00
mcrandellolike /opt/wirelessdrivers11:00
lib8264qhi can someone help me with a ? reguarding  kde-core install11:01
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james_xxxbrb, i need to reboot... it does not see the wireless adapter (which will probably not work anyways)11:01
lib8264qwhats the command used to install ( from the kubuntu cd)11:01
|lostbyte|lib8264q, no we wont.. !!11:01
lib8264qlol11:02
|lostbyte|lib8264q, just joking..11:02
|lostbyte|lib8264q, Ask ! some one will know..11:02
lib8264qkool ....11:02
mcrandellojames_xxx: it might work11:02
mcrandellolib8264q: there's no "install" icon on the desktop?11:02
|lostbyte|lib8264q, everything on the kubuntu cd is alreasdy installed.. anything else can we installed over repos..11:03
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mcrandellooh I thought he meant from the livecd nm11:03
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lib8264qno .... i tell you what it is ... only way to get it installled ... dont know why  but its the only way  is do a server install first then install tyhe desktop  seems starnge ... but trust me   its the only way it goes in live cd crashes11:04
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mcrandelloI was having some livecd issues as well, this was the dapper beta gnome cd though11:05
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lib8264qnaw even with teh alternat if i try a stright  install it crashes  i have to do it in sep stages ....11:06
lib8264qthen it installs ...#11:06
lib8264q????????????????11:06
lib8264qbut im trying to just install the kde-core desktop11:06
gatekeeperlib8264q: I had a bad maxtor hdd which caused dapper to crash on installation, but the old text breezy installer worked, replaced it for a seagate and it installed fine11:07
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|lostbyte|lib8264q, what are you using then, right now ?11:07
lib8264qxp box11:08
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|lostbyte|lib8264q, Dont you have the kubuntu cd ?11:08
lib8264qyep11:08
|lostbyte|lib8264q, slip it in and install from boot.11:08
lib8264qi want to have just the core desktop11:08
lib8264qaptitude install kubuntu-desktop ... puts  in a lot of stuff ill never use ...11:09
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mcrandelloyou can remove the stuff you don't want11:09
mcrandelloit'll say it's removing "kde-desktop" but that's just a  metapackage11:09
lib8264qiv tried aptitude kde-core kdm and kde loads but then gives errors11:10
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Chryseushow about kdebase?11:10
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lib8264qyeap as well11:10
lib8264qnew there was one missing  lol11:10
lib8264qbut its  givinig  2 errors11:11
lib8264qcant open theme file /usr/share apps/kde/themes/kubuntu11:11
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lib8264q and xsession unable to start xsession11:12
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lib8264qany ideas11:12
lib8264q?11:12
lib8264qim new to kubuntu  ... so dont know where the problems lie ... if it was dos  or xp would not be a prob...11:13
lib8264qlinux /unix commands arent that great11:14
h3sp4wn?11:14
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|lostbyte|lib8264q, huh ?11:15
SpAwNhello all anyone know if there is a list of all supported sound cards??.....i tried the live dvd and i had no sound...i wanna see if i can get it working b4 i consider installing kubuntu11:15
DaSkreecharso: Morning11:15
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|lostbyte|SpAwN, what sound card ?11:16
ChrisCooliehello from Germany!11:16
lib8264qlol  np ... but  still dosent change the fact as far as this  o/s is concerned im a noobo ;)11:16
Ahmucklib8264q: if you were new to a humvee and did not know all the controls does not make it less great11:16
SpAwNlspci says its this: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)11:16
DaSkreechChrisCoolie: Hallo!11:16
Ahmucklib8264q: what are you problems ?11:16
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SpAwNi had the same prob of not being able to set up my sound card on centos and ubuntu a while back11:17
lib8264qim trying to be clever .... and just install the kde-core desktop11:17
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lib8264qbut when it loading im getting to errors11:17
|lostbyte|lib8264q, what is loading.. KDE ?11:17
lib8264qyep11:17
|lostbyte|lib8264q, error in a window ?11:17
Ahmuckpastebin.com11:18
lib8264qkde starts to load up then gives cant open theme file  ....11:18
|lostbyte|lib8264q, go to themes can chage to defualt.11:19
lib8264qis default11:19
mcrandellolib8264q: apt-cache search kde|grep theme see if you can find the package it wants11:19
lib8264qcool....11:19
mcrandello| takes the output from the first command and then runs the second on it11:19
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mcrandellogrep is a fun command you can use to find strings with11:20
DaSkreech!bash11:20
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:20
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ChrisCooliei am familiar with debian (and parts) but i like to use the (k )desktop...11:21
DaSkreechok When I mount something if it can't read the superblock is that bad?11:22
ChrisCoolie... so is usual to 'switch' to kubuntu?11:22
zorglu1DaSkreech: yes :)11:22
zorglu1the mount wont work11:22
ChrisCooliethere is no "it" in the sentence11:22
DaSkreechzorglu1: Yes but does that mean I have a new doorstop?11:23
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zorglu1doorstrop ?11:23
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lib8264qsorry be a few mins  ... someones just called ...11:23
ChrisCoolieShort question: is there a german language channel with the topic _kubuntu_?11:23
kbrooksOK, Ubuntu Community. We all should testt EasyUbuntu (use it). if it doesn't work, file a bug at https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu. Version to test: 3.02.1, available at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz11:24
h3sp4wn!de11:24
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:24
zorglu1 #kubuntu-de has currently 34personns on it11:24
ChrisCoolieDanke sehr, thank you :)11:24
kbrookssehr?11:25
larson9999thanks really11:25
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kbrooksi thought danke was enough for a "thank you". what does it really mean?11:25
h3sp4wnChrisCoolie: #kanotix is pretty good if you speak german (most things are the same between debian sid and kubuntu)11:25
ChrisCoolieIn german, often the word "sehr" is used with "Danke"11:25
legouthi. anybody can tell me, how i can set me WLAN card in monitoring mode? Ive got centrino laptop11:25
kbrooksChrisCoolie: meaning?11:25
zorglu1danke sehr = thanks a lot/very much i guess11:25
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ChrisCoolieok11:26
larson9999yep11:26
zorglu1sehr is very, from memory :)11:26
DaSkreechzorglu1: Door stp :-P :-)11:26
ChrisCoolieokay to language topics ;)11:26
|lostbyte|legout, sudo iwconfig <device> essid <name> mode monitor11:26
threnodylegout: I believe that the centrino chip doesn't allow promiscuous mode.11:27
|lostbyte|legout, why do you want that ?11:27
ChrisCooliei read the distri kanotix comes from knoppix (on its official site)11:27
DaSkreechzorglu1: What's the superblock it can't read?11:27
legout|lostbyte|: just wanna test how "save" my wlan is11:27
nixternal!pastebin11:27
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:27
|lostbyte|threnody, it mostly dep on the wlan card.11:28
h3sp4wnChrisCoolie: It uses debian sid repostories if you install it11:28
zorglu1DaSkreech: a super block is the 'main' block, the 'root' block, the block from wich the whole filesystem derives11:28
DaSkreechzorglu1: So Not being able toread it means what? the Drive is dead?11:28
zorglu1DaSkreech: my guess is that you got either the partition name wrong or the fs type you gave is wrong11:28
mcrandelloit could mean you specified the wrong filesystem type11:28
threnodylostbyte: most pcmcia cards will allow promiscuous mode, but I believe Intel's motherboard centrino chipset will not.11:29
zorglu1DaSkreech: most likely no :) it is simply an error in the command you gave11:29
mcrandelloif it's a windows drive something like "mount -t fat" or "mount -t ntfs"11:29
DaSkreechzorglu1: Ok :( vfat11:29
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ChrisCooliei'd like to use a system that's on one hand site actual but mostly stable as possible11:29
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ChrisCoolieuntil december 2005 i used sarge, then i tested etch11:31
DaSkreechseems strange though I used the same command to mount last week11:31
ChrisCooliebut i'm unsure about sid repositories and stability11:31
zorglu1ChrisCoolie: stability and uptodate are not really compatible :)11:32
ChrisCooliei know that.11:32
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h3sp4wnChrisCoolie: What I am saying is if you want to ask a question in german about kubuntu if you ask it in #kanotix the answer will most likely be the same11:32
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zorglu1DaSkreech: it would help you to get help, if you tried to explain clearly what you want/do/have etc...11:33
DaSkreechI have a script that mounts my partitions11:33
DaSkreechI ran it today and it threw that error11:33
ChrisCooliedebian makes it possible either to use stable or the stages until messed up11:33
DaSkreechI'm going to reboot soon and see if the drive got detached somehow11:34
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ChrisCoolieso, the final question is: which debian based comes mostly to the middle?11:35
DaSkreechEtch?11:35
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ChrisCooliemy hardware is not so actual, but stable ;)11:36
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h3sp4wnkubuntu is stable but the system feels less responsive than with sid or etch11:37
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DaSkreechI guess you can tune down somestuff11:37
DaSkreechLike having katapult on by default11:37
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ChrisCoolieMy newest Etch DVD is from december 2005. either i load and burn the newest (as i did a few days ago ;) )11:38
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ChrisCoolie... or i use the elder and make a bigger update11:39
h3sp4wnsudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (what is wrong with that or is there a change of xorg version or something inbetween)11:39
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ChrisCooliein etch you login root11:40
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macconlinehi....11:40
macconlinei have a problem11:40
h3sp4wnI have been using sudo for ages (before I used ubuntu) so I just enable it on debian11:40
macconlinecon el process Xorg... after of ps aux... see this:11:41
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ChrisCooliebut the big etch' update messes up if i don't be care11:41
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Armagguedeshello11:41
macconlineline of process: /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ11:41
Armagguedesi just updated my dapper (i had 4 updates), and now my system keeps hanging11:41
ChrisCoolieapt hat Superkuh-Krfte ;)11:41
h3sp4wnChrisCoolie: I can imagine11:41
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macconlinethis using 28.4% of memory11:42
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macconlinehelp me11:43
Armagguedesi was thinking of reformating, considering my system comes from a Flight Dapper11:43
ChrisCoolienow i go to the neighbours - cu11:44
ChrisCooliewhere german speaking11:44
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ChrisCooliebye11:45
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marty_some antivir for kubuntu?11:47
marty_witch is the best?11:48
gatekeepermcrandello: have you tried going into #ubuntu-xgl (just a thought) ?11:48
mcrandelloArmagguedes: you don't have a laptop with a radeon 200m do you?11:48
mcrandellogatekeeper: I'm in there right now :)11:48
gatekeepermcrandello: cool :-)11:48
h3sp4wnmcrandello: The latest version of fglrx provides much  better support for your card if you are having problems11:49
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mcrandelloh3sp4wn: yes Im using 8.26.18 atm and it freezes a lot less11:49
Armagguedesman my laptop (acer) is making a lot of strange noises (lots of clicking). They seem to come from the CPU area. Any ideas what those might be?11:50
mcrandelloArmagguedes' problem sounded familiar though :)11:50
Armagguedesati m11/970011:50
Armagguedesit only started AFTER updating11:50
mcrandelloyeah I reformatted and after updating started having a lot more frequent freezes11:51
zorglu1Armagguedes: my guess is it is from your cpu fan11:51
mcrandellonow I'm using 8.26.18 and dapper beta and I've been very careful NOT to update anything related to the kernel, the USB system or anything low level11:51
mcrandelloand it seems to have kept if from returning11:52
Armagguedesthe busted updates were GnuPG and a *lib, i dont remember which (but there were 3 of these, same category/file, but different types)11:52
mcrandellothe one thing on my wishlist (other than for the radeon drivers to be better) is a rollback feature in adept11:53
DaSkreechmacconline: Hello?11:53
mcrandelloof course I heard ATI is about to come out with some workstation cards soon so maybe the drivers will start getting better11:53
macconlineDaSkreech: ??11:54
macconlineyou see my problem?11:54
DaSkreechmacconline: Whats the problem?11:54
macconlinethe process Xorg use much memory11:54
slow-motionn811:55
macconlineof 3% RAM --->>> 70% in four hours11:55
macconlineroot      5174  1.0 28.4 226208 220992 tty7    RLs+ 15:16   1:25 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ11:55
DaSkreechAlt+Ctrl+BkSpc?11:55
macconlinethis is a line of ps aux, you see 28.4 % ram11:55
macconlineDaSkreech: yes, but again11:56
afm\colossusmacconline: unless you don't grasp linux virtual memory allocation, please, don't try fiddling around with it ;)11:56
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DaSkreechmacconline: How much RAMdo you have?11:57
floschhi all11:57
macconline768,11:57
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floschlittle questions ... how can i refresh the apt-package system and how can i configure the sources apt should use?11:57
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ubuntu_hi11:58
gatekeeperflosch: apt-update11:58
floscha KDE GUI?11:58
jpatrickflosch: Adept11:58
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DaSkreech!sources > flosch11:58
DaSkreechubuntu: Hello11:59
floschjpatrick: Mhm ... Can't find any option to configure the sources in Adept... :-(11:59
gatekeeperflosch: have a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:59
DaSkreechflosch: Open Adept -> Adept Menu -> Manager Repositories11:59
DaSkreechManage :(11:59
macconlineDaSkreech: i do not that are11:59
DaSkreechmacconline: sorry?12:00
macconlinemy english is bad....12:00
floschDaSkreech: there is no option like this one12:00
macconlinehow solutins this problem?12:00
floschDa12:00
flosch-Da12:00
DaSkreechflosch: You know the menu adept at the top left of the application?12:01
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DaSkreechmacconline: I'm not sure have you done any modifications to the X setup?12:01
DaSkreechmacconline: Have you changed Xorg's configuration ?12:01
floschDaSkreech: yeah.. there's no entry like "Manage Repositories" or something like that12:02
macconlineonly is that i have monitor + tv...12:02
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ubuntu_Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.12:02
DaSkreechflosch: What do you have there?12:02
floschDaSkreech: only "Close" ... to close the app ... nothing else12:02
floschDaSkreech: just installed a fresh kubuntu ..12:02
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floschDaSkreech: so this is my first kubuntu boot12:02
DaSkreechflosch: 5.10 or 6.06?12:02
flosch6.0612:02
macconlineDaSkreech: only nvidia out and monitor...12:02
floschDaSkreech: Adept 2.0 Destroyer12:03
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macconlinebut before that this.... equal12:03
GarnolCan someone answer a noob questions in a privat chat ?? (who?)12:03
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DaSkreechmacconline: I'm not sure what the problem is. I've not played around with Dual monitors so I don't ven know if that is normal :(12:03
DaSkreechGarnol: Just ask12:03
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gatekeepergarnol just ask12:04
DaSkreech!ask12:04
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:04
LynoureGarnol: asking on the channel is usually most efficient. No one will laugh at you.12:04
DaSkreechflosch: What do you have under the edit menu?12:04
ubuntu_Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.12:04
=== DaSkreech laughs at Lynoure
floschDaSkreech: Undo and Redo12:05
=== Lynoure just smiles at DaSkreech
DaSkreechflosch: Ok How about Under View?12:05
floschDaSkreech: Show changes12:05
DaSkreechAnd just that?12:05
floschya12:05
floschDaSkreech: (translated from german into english, .. my adept is in german language)12:05
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ubuntu_!broken12:06
ubotuI know nothing about broken12:06
ubuntu_!noboot12:06
ubotuI know nothing about noboot12:06
ubuntu_!boot12:06
ubotuBoot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto12:06
DaSkreech!fish12:07
ubotuI know nothing about fish12:07
DaSkreech!fishing12:07
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots12:07
gatekeeperubuntu_: are you happy to reinstall ? why did you do a dist-upgrade?12:07

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