[12:08] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, rc.localm if it does'nt have a boot script..
[12:08] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: there was nothing in the gnump3d config file
[12:08] <icheyne> :(
[12:08] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: what would a boot script look like?
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, there are example boot services in /etc/init.d/ .. have a look..
[12:08] <icheyne> I mean, would it have any sort of file extension? e.g. sh
[12:09] <icheyne> ok thanks!
[12:09] <icheyne> I'll restart anyway
[12:09] <icheyne> fingers crossed
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> icheyne, nope ! its a pure bash script.
[12:09] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: I'll let you know how it goes
[12:09] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: oh I see :o)
[12:09] <icheyne> brb
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> ok
[12:09] <kbza> anyone using ubuntu under vmware?
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> myte, make dep
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> My8os, make clean bzImage modules
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> myte, ^
[12:10] <myte> whatever that is
[12:10] <myte> hehe
[12:11] <myte> when i did make dep it said that isnt needed anymore
[12:11] <jose> anybody know how to run kde-window-decorator successfully ...
[12:11] <|lostbyte|> myte, as a line --- > make dep;make clean bzImage modules;make modules_install install
[12:11] <myte> confusing :)
[12:11] <jose> with xgl/compiz
[12:11] <myte> oh i see
[12:11] <franz_> After having tried kubuntu live i decided to install it on my hdd, but this started a nightmare: the installed kubuntu is nearly unusable
[12:11] <franz_> it does not let me start a kde session as user
[12:11] <|lostbyte|> myte, just google for what each make argument does. as i'll not be able to give you exact info..
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> franz_, Example ?
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> franz_, then how do you login ?
[12:12] <franz_> at the kde login prompt it says:
[12:13] <franz_> your saved session type 01kde is not valid anymore
[12:13] <|lostbyte|> myte, np ;)
[12:13] <KDEfanboy> anyone know where to find a kubuntu safe .deb of the latest ntfsprogs, 1.13.1?
[12:13] <|lostbyte|> franz_, did you ever login ? before this happend ?
[12:14] <Hawkwind> KDEfanboy: apt-get install ntfstools
[12:14] <franz_> never
[12:14] <franz_> now i-m again on live cd
[12:14] <Hawkwind> KDEfanboy: ntfstools - transitional package to install ntfsprogs
[12:14] <KDEfanboy> hmm, mine is showing latest available is 1.12.1
[12:14] <franz_> and i have a wrong keyboard layout...
[12:15] <Hawkwind> KDEfanboy: Why do you need 1.13.1 for exactly ?
[12:15] <franz_> i can hardly use symbols
[12:15] <arso> |lostbyte|:  same..... 2 out of the 3    mounted, teh third one didnt
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> KDEfanboy, usually debian packages are safly installed !! http://packages.debian.org/unstable/otherosfs/ntfsprogs
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> arso, whats the third one ?
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> arso, hd?
[12:16] <arso> |lostbyte|:  hdd6
[12:16] <arso> |lostbyte|:  the one we changed into hdd5
[12:16] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: hmm didn't work
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> arso, ok add this line..
[12:16] <arso> k
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> arso,  /dev/hdd6 /mnt/hdd6 auto defaults,users 0 0
[12:17] <franz_> |lostbyte|: a friend suggested that it may be due to the fact that i did not format my existing /home partition from my previous Mndriva
[12:17] <icheyne> |lostbyte|: thanks for the clue - I'll investigate more - I think there are other problems....
[12:17] <yanis> how do I mount a samba resource?
[12:17] <Hawkwind> franz_: I had that problem when I installed Kubuntu a week or so ago
[12:17] <omeow> Which package do I need to let amarok read and write mp3 tags? I can play the audio just fine. But tunepimp complains when I try to fetch the song tags from the database.
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> clue?
[12:17] <arso> |lostbyte|:  ok added, reboot now?
[12:17] <Hawkwind> franz_: I went back and redid the install and formatted /home and it worked fine
[12:18] <franz_> Hawkwind: can you help me_
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> arso, wait..
[12:18] <arso> |lostbyte|:  ok
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> arso, did you change that /dev/hdd6 to /dev/hdd5 for swap one..
[12:18] <arso> yes
[12:18] <arso> wanna see my current fstab?
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> arso, alright,, reboot
[12:18] <franz_> Hawkwind: I have about 60 Gb of data on my /home.  I simply cant format it
[12:19] <gatekeeper> probable a good idea
[12:19] <Hawkwind> franz_: Backups backups backups :)
[12:19] <Hawkwind> franz_: What version of KDE were you using in Mandriva ?
[12:19] <franz_> hey, its a lot of maney in DVDs
[12:19] <Hawkwind> franz_: Put the stuff on another partition or another computer all together.
[12:19] <franz_> Hawkwind: 3.4
[12:20] <|lostbyte|> franz_, ok ! do one thing..
[12:20] <Hawkwind> franz_: That's probably the problem.  The config files aren't compatible.  I found that out the hard way which is why I just redid the installer
[12:20] <|lostbyte|> franz_, mv .kde .kde_bk
[12:20] <franz_> Hawkwind: I would, if i could have another hdd... but i dont
[12:20] <|lostbyte|> franz_, and loging again..
[12:20] <Hawkwind> I even tried moving ~/.kde to ~/.kde-old and it still didn't help
[12:21] <_rince_> roe
[12:21] <Hawkwind> franz_: This is why I keep nothing in /home except for config files
[12:21] <|lostbyte|> franz_, are you able to loging in console mode ?
[12:21] <Hawkwind> franz_: Though I have over 650GB of space on this box and I have 11 partitions
[12:21] <franz_> |lostbyte|: yes
[12:21] <|lostbyte|> franz_, did you try startx from there..
[12:22] <franz_> yea |lostbyte|  It did not start for user but it did for root
[12:22] <franz_> with lots of problems anyway
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> franz_, try from user.
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> do startx
[12:22] <Hawkwind> franz_: Did you move your ~/.kde directory ?
[12:23] <franz_> Hawkwind: no!  well, that must be the reason!
[12:23] <arso> |lostbyte|:  it worked :D, theyre all booted now
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> arso, Cool !
[12:23] <Hawkwind> franz_: You can try it.  It did NOT work for me though
[12:23] <arso> |lostbyte|:  i am gonna go to windows now to delete a ntfs partition and thn create ext3 here,
[12:23] <arso> |lostbyte|:  to make it boot, just ad another line with its deetails
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> arso, which partition hd?
[12:24] <arso> |lostbyte|:  still gonna create it
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> arso, ok !
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> arso, best of luck..
[12:24] <franz_> ok, |lostbyte| and Hawkwind > I will try moving .kde and will let you know
[12:24] <arso> i'll just see wat its called and make a line right? THANX :D =)
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> ok
[12:25] <arso> bye
[12:25] <|lostbyte|> arso, yes.. i guess you got the basic idea..
[12:25] <|lostbyte|> arso, tc, bye.
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> arso, i just cant belive you spent the whole day today mounting..
[12:26] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Literally, the whole day
[12:26] <Hawkwind> Heh
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, lolz.
[12:26] <arso> |lostbyte|:  thats bad?
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> arso, its a 2 min job. actually.
[12:27] <Hawkwind> 2 minutes if you type slow
[12:27] <franz_> hey, which file managers are available in kubuntu live?  I-m used to krusader on KDE and Midnight Commander from console....
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> :)
[12:27] <arso> |lostbyte|:  no, i had to free up partitions by shifting data around, and then come back linux n create other partitions
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> ok..
[12:27] <arso> |lostbyte|:  were talking 200gb with ide :0
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> woo.
[12:27] <arso> |lostbyte|:  and i suk with linux :P
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> arso, No you dont. You learned how to use kate how to edit and how to mount..
[12:28] <skb0> Has someone managed to get "lightspeed" system startup with Ubuntu ?
[12:28] <arso> |lostbyte|:  cool, i hope i remember most of it, wat reference  do u use for commands?
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> arso, you simply get used to them..
[12:29] <arso> i see
[12:30] <arso> so for mounting, its just the editing of fstab?
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> arso, yes, thats the file thats called from boot.
[12:30] <franz_> hey, which file managers are available in kubuntu live (besides konqueror)?  I-m used to krusader on KDE and Midnight Commander from console....
[12:30] <rob> not much I'd say
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> franz_, konqueror is the best there is.
[12:30] <rob> you'd need to install it
[12:31] <arso> |lostbyte|:  its getting late, good night, thanx for all the help
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> arso, Ya, chaoo.
[12:31] <rob> I'm packaging the dolphin file manager for universe, might be want your after?
[12:31] <franz_> may be |lostbyte|, but i-m not used to it....
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> franz_, its similar to other File managers, but has advance features. and greater protocole support.
[12:32] <rob> franz_, http://enzosworld.gmxhome.de/
[12:33] <rob> kubuntu package on the website
[12:33] <franz_> ok ok, i was not criticizing konqueror... simply I do not know it well as other file managers...
[12:33] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> !multiverse
[12:33] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:34] <|lostbyte|> franz_, its even greater as a webbrowser.
[12:34] <Fiya_Werkin> arso: you can also man a lot of files, like in a console, man fstab
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> all in one you see :P
[12:35] <Fiya_Werkin> so if you remember even a filename but not necessairly what to do with it, try man
[12:36] <arso> Fiya_Werkin:  sorry wat?
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, so you are creating packages for ubuntu now ?
[12:36] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Learning to yes.  I did xchat-2.6.4 but someone else did it as well and it got added to Edgy already
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, nice.
[12:37] <franz_> thanks for your help ppl   bye for now
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, what will happen to sos now ?
[12:37] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Nothing.  http://SeerOfSouls.com/ will remain the same.  I'll build stuff for it once Mandriva 2007 comes out, plus I'm hoping to host the Ubuntu packages I build there as well
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> cool !
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, i really appreciate the work you do.. :)
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> TIme to go to bed..
[12:38] <scotty> Hi. On my desktop, I'm partitioning as we speak. How long do the partitions usually take?
[12:38] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Thank you very much.  That means a lot to me :)
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> Goodnight Everyone..
[12:39] <scotty> It's been like 8-9 minutes
[12:39] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: Sleep well man
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, you too.. tc
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> Bye
[12:39] <Ertain> For some strange reason, my screensaver doesn't start after five minutes (the time I set it to).  I have kscreensaver, extra screensavers, plus xscreensaver installed.
[12:39] <scotty> Does anyone know how long a partition usually takes???
[12:40] <Hawkwind> scotty: How long it takes to what ?
[12:40] <slow-motion> n8
[12:40] <scotty> Until the partition finishes
[12:40] <Hawkwind> scotty: Umm, are you letting it do it automatically you mean ?
[12:40] <scotty> yeah
[12:41] <Hawkwind> scotty: Ahhh no idea.  I prefer to do it manually so I know what the system is doing.  I don't trust *automatic* things
[12:41] <scotty> ok
[12:55] <scotty> I have a friend that said the partitioner for Kubuntu is horribly unreliable. That it trashes the drive 1/3 of the time. Is this true?
[12:55] <roadrunner_> Yes
[12:55] <roadrunner_> It did for me
[12:55] <roadrunner_> It only finally worked properly whenever I deleted my windows partition completely and then installed
[12:56] <roadrunner_> then, after Kubuntu was installed, I used the windows XP partitioner and reinstalled windows
[12:56] <Raven301> It's work for me on 3 installs
[12:56] <scotty> ah
[12:56] <scotty> I'm very nervous to install now. :S
[12:56] <scotty> Maybe I'll just stick with live CD :/
[12:56] <JohnFlux> It worked fine for me
[12:56] <JohnFlux> fwiw
[12:56] <scotty> My father would kill me if I trashed the drive.
[12:57] <Raven301> I had win xp on the three two ... didn't delete
[12:57] <JohnFlux> roadrunner_: but it didn't delete your windows partition or anything?
[12:57] <zorglu1> scotty: install when you are confortable with it
[12:57] <Raven301> s/two/too
[12:57] <JohnFlux> scotty: if you like, you could use partion magic to repartiton first
[12:57] <scotty> That will be in about 4 months when I get my own computer and not get killed for trashing the drive :P
[12:57] <scotty> What's that, JohnFlux?
[12:58] <jose> anybody have problems in gmail with konqueror?
[12:58] <zorglu1> well if the data are important and scotty a beginer a repartition is unadviced :)
[12:59] <jose> java don't load... or something and gmail show me the html version of page
[12:59] <JohnFlux> scotty: a priopetary piece of software
[12:59] <JohnFlux> scotty: you'd have to get it from somewhere
[12:59] <gnomefreak> why not use qtparted
[12:59] <scotty> JohnFlux, what exactly does it do?
[12:59] <haakonn> the same as gnu parted
[12:59] <D4m4ge> hi
[01:00] <JohnFlux> scotty: what haakonn says
[01:00] <gnomefreak> scotty: its software that helps you partition you harddrive
[01:00] <scotty> Ah
[01:00] <abattoir> jose: you can change Konqueror's Browser identification for gmail
[01:01] <abattoir> jose: Tools -> Browser -> Identification
[01:01] <scotty> I think I'll just wait until I buy my own computer (3-4 months) and install Kubuntu when I first get it, that way if something does go wrong, no data lost, and I can just reinstall windows.
[01:01] <abattoir> jose: set it to one of the newer Mozilla ones 1.7.3 or to Firefox
[01:03] <gnomefreak> lol its greyed out
[01:03] <abattoir> jose: ugh sorry Tools -> Change Browser Identification ;)
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> I wish installing a few thousand fonts didn't mean the system turned to molasses.
[01:04] <sotired> scotty:if you trash the drive tell your family that they are a bunch of corporate nipple suckers who are too afraid to break away and be their own person. Also tell them that their flower child generation turned out to be nothing but a big dissapointment. then tell them to go suck down another starbucks latte whille gently killing babies through their over-use of oil.
[01:04] <clinckarts> Hi all
[01:04] <sotired> or you could just say sorry....
[01:05] <scotty> LMAO
[01:05] <LeeJunFan> sotired: :D Take a valum man.
[01:05] <sotired> sorry about the outburst...im just mad cuz i cant encode my divx files to dvd ;-/
[01:05] <scotty> Nah, it cheered me up :P
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> I especially liked the "_gently_ killing babies".
[01:07] <sotired> ha
[01:08] <D4m4ge> does anyone remember who had that probleme with kmplayer not playing anything?
[01:08] <D4m4ge> i had the same probleme, and i figured out why...
[01:08] <D4m4ge> apparently he was comming oftenly
[01:10] <abattoir> D4m4ge: i think it was centyx...
[01:10] <D4m4ge> ok, i'll send him e mmo
[01:10] <D4m4ge> a memo*
[01:10] <D4m4ge> thx :)
[01:10] <abattoir> [02:30:13]  <centyx> anyone know how to remove kmplayer-plugins-konq w/out removing kubuntu-desktop
[01:11] <D4m4ge> there is a channel log on the web?
[01:11] <abattoir> yes... dont remember where exactly
[01:11] <bachstudies> can anyone help me wit
[01:11] <abattoir> i'll search wait :)
[01:11] <D4m4ge> :D
[01:11] <sotired-afk> whoz wit?
[01:11] <sotired-afk> whiz wit?
[01:12] <abattoir> D4m4ge: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/
[01:13] <D4m4ge> thank you abattoir
[01:13] <D4m4ge> are you french?
[01:13] <abattoir> no problem :)
[01:13] <jerry> hi
[01:13] <abattoir> nope.. just the nick :)
[01:13] <D4m4ge> do you say "abattoir" in english?
[01:13] <D4m4ge> ok
[01:14] <sotired> freedom fries anyone?
[01:14] <abattoir> D4m4ge: i believe its a commonly use word in English, but the origin is obviously french
[01:14] <BoSJo> All: Strange thing, a lot of webpages wont load fully, always seem to miss 2 images.......and it just wont load the page 100%. This is both Firefox and Konqueror. Any ideas
[01:14] <D4m4ge> ok
[01:14] <abattoir> *used
[01:14] <khaije1> what does it mean?
[01:14] <clinckarts> Wich is the best "windows emulator" under linux (free)
[01:14] <abattoir> khaije1: a slaughterhouse
[01:14] <Hawkwind> Anyone have a link to some information on how to setup a personal apt-get repository on your own personal website.  Like the exact directory structure and how to create the lists that need to be in place for apt-get to read and such ?
[01:14] <abattoir> clinckarts: wine
[01:15] <clinckarts> abattoir: Thanks
[01:15] <khaije1> abattoir: ah non a mi Wine Is Not an Emulator tsk tsk
[01:15] <elknof3> hi everyone
[01:15] <khaije1> :-)
[01:15] <abattoir> :)
[01:15] <elknof3> can somebody help me configuring the microphone??  it doesnt work...
[01:16] <sotired> wine=api..right?
[01:16] <khaije1> it's an api translation layer... iw as going to say Xen, but we won't have the chips for that for a couple months
[01:16] <khaije1> yup
[01:16] <sotired> elknof3: ican hear you just fine...
[01:16] <clinckarts> elknof3: Did you plug in into computer?
[01:16] <elknof3> its a lap top...  it already have it installed
[01:16] <clinckarts> elknof3: Sorry, bad joke ;-)
[01:16] <elknof3> integrated   i mena*
[01:17] <elknof3> jajajaja   no actually it was good...
[01:17] <focker> Hawkwind: google for apt repository howto
[01:17] <clinckarts> I'm running with KDE
[01:17] <sotired> elknof: spain or mexico or south america?
[01:17] <elknof3> jajajaa =  hahahaha    lol...  its just that im not a well english speaker...
[01:17] <clinckarts> Is it possible to run Gnome application?
[01:17] <elknof3> mexico
[01:17] <sotired> most ppl in america dont speak english very well either
[01:18] <sotired> my best freind just moved to mexico
[01:18] <sotired> el paz or la pz
[01:18] <sotired> i cant remember which
[01:18] <D4m4ge> abattoir it was insanekane
[01:18] <D4m4ge> two days ago
[01:18] <elknof3> it just that they usea a lot of contractions, so sometimes its impossible to figure out what are they saying
[01:18] <D4m4ge> does he come regularly?
[01:18] <clinckarts> Do I neeed to install smthg to run Gnome with kubuntu?
[01:18] <sotired> yes, gnome
[01:19] <clinckarts> Howto?
[01:19] <abattoir> D4m4ge: oops sorry, but i remember centyx complaining about it today :)
[01:19] <sotired> sorry...im being a smartass
[01:19] <kosh> probably sudo apt-get install gnome
[01:19] <D4m4ge> my problem came from the output, if anoyone asks for it again...
[01:19] <abattoir> D4m4ge: yes
[01:19] <D4m4ge> KMplayer uses xvideo as default, i just changed it to X11shm
[01:19] <clinckarts> I mean when running KDE, I want to execute Gnome interface as well..; Is it possible?
[01:19] <focker> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:19] <D4m4ge> and it works fine now :)
[01:20] <elknof3> so...how can i configure the microphone??
[01:20] <LeeJunFan> anyone know if you can use kde-window-decorations with xgl on dapper in any way yet? SUSE can and dammit I want to too!
[01:20] <abattoir> D4m4ge: he's a regular alright :)
[01:20] <focker> clinckarts: you can use gnome apps if you hav egnome libs installed, but you can't run both desktops at same time
[01:20] <clinckarts> I already install some programs (Gnome), do I need to reinstall them after installation of gnome desktop??
[01:21] <D4m4ge> ok, 'ill leave him a memo
[01:21] <focker> clinckarts: no
[01:21] <focker> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop will drag in whatever gnome libs you don't have, but need
[01:21] <focker> it won't walk all over your existing apps
[01:22] <focker> welcome to the better world of a Debian-based distro
[01:22] <Fiya_Werkin> it'll add a ton of gnom eapps to your menus tho
[01:22] <abattoir> elknof3: It might already be setup, have you tried messing around with a mixer (kmix) ?
[01:22] <focker> Fiya_Werkin: right
[01:22] <clinckarts> focker: I don't find egnome
[01:23] <focker> Debian ased systems will auto update the menues with added programs
[01:23] <elknof3> abattoir,   lol   let me see...
[01:23] <focker> clinckarts: from a shell, type "apt-get install gnome-desktop"
[01:24] <focker> whoops, add sudo to the start of that line
[01:24] <focker> I forget that a lot
[01:24] <focker> I'm used to su root and then doing a bunch of stuff
[01:25] <clinckarts> Hum, apt-get install gnome-desktop say that it's a virtual package
[01:25] <clinckarts> I need to specify the release
[01:25] <clinckarts> apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:26] <clinckarts> Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
[01:26] <clinckarts> Construction de l'arbre des dpendances... Fait
[01:26] <clinckarts> Le paquet gnome-desktop est un paquet virtuel fourni par:
[01:26] <clinckarts>   gnome-desktop-environment 1:2.12.2.3
[01:26] <clinckarts> Vous devez explicitement slectionner un paquet  installer.
[01:26] <clinckarts> E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet gnome-desktop
[01:26] <clinckarts> Any idea?
[01:26] <focker> my francais sucks
[01:26] <elknof3> nope...  nothing missing...  it just dont work...  im testing with krecord...
[01:26] <focker> long time since high school
[01:27] <focker> umm, try "sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment"
[01:27] <abattoir> elknof3: so mic is on input(w/ full vol.) ? or is it not present at all
[01:28] <elknof3> yeah its present at max...
[01:28] <abattoir> elknof3: also try toggling 'Capture' e on and off
[01:28] <focker> when you type that out, then hit tab key after the "t" in "environment"
[01:28] <focker> that will auto complete the version number
[01:28] <elknof3> abattoir, i've been doing it for a while... but nothing...
[01:28] <abattoir> elknof3: kmix right?
[01:28] <clinckarts> It works... But 349Mb !!!
[01:28] <elknof3> abattoir, sure
[01:28] <focker> or you might launch adept from the menu system and do it from there
[01:29] <focker> clinckarts: gnome and all that it comes with  is  large
[01:29] <abattoir> elknof3: okay, in the switches tab do you have multiple Mic entries?
[01:29] <focker> that is why I don't use gnome
[01:29] <focker> but KDE is likely just as big
[01:30] <focker> I just prefer it
[01:30] <abattoir> elknof3: which laptop? brand/model?
[01:30] <elknof3> abattoir, dell d620
[01:30] <elknof3> abattoir, latitude
[01:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats a comman to install a .deb package?
[01:31] <elknof3> abattoir, just one mic entry per tab.. one in output, yhe other in input
[01:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> whats a command to install a .deb package?
[01:31] <clinckarts> If I good understand, I can run Gnome software when running an KDE desktop with that package... Right?
[01:31] <Hawkwind> VieLGuS-KuTaS: dpkg -i file.deb
[01:31] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> thanks
[01:32] <elknof3> VieLGuS-KuTaS, in konqueror o nautilus, locate it, left click, (right handed)>kubuntu package>install package
[01:32] <clinckarts> I have to chose between gdm & kdm
[01:32] <abattoir> elknof3: hmmm, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/DellLatitudeD620 is also not complete
[01:32] <fiyawerx> 620? hehe, I'm running on a d600 with zero problems
[01:33] <abattoir> fiyawerx: mic works for you?
[01:33] <clinckarts> I have to chose between gdm & kdm during install of gnome-desktop-environment... What should I choose?
[01:33] <_brad> Hello
[01:33] <fiyawerx> abattoir: good question, havn't had reason to test it, you mean the mic jack ?
[01:33] <focker> clinckarts: kdm
[01:33] <abattoir> fiyawerx: nope, the internal mic
[01:33] <clinckarts> focker:Tks
[01:33] <focker> that will give you the same login screen you currently have
[01:33] <roadrunner_> hello... anyone feel like helping me out with installing Nvidia drivers? Im having some problems
[01:33] <fiyawerx> abattoir: how can i test it?
[01:34] <elknof3> fiyawerx, with a sound record application..  like krecord... or sound recorder in gnome
[01:35] <clinckarts> Actually, I can't install eclipse 3.2... Nobody nows how to do that?
[01:35] <roadrunner_> somebody... I could use some help with a driver problem, anyone will to help me out?
[01:35] <elknof3> roadrunner_, maybe i can   whats the pro??
[01:35] <roadrunner_> I keep getting an error when I install, so Im going to paste it here. If someone can tell me what it means, that would be awesome
[01:35] <abattoir> fiyawerx: open kmix->Output->Switch on the green and red LEDs below the mic icon, crank up the vol.-> Tap the mic as hard as you can -> Listen carefully for taps from your speaker ;)
[01:36] <roadrunner_> Firstly. Ihave a GeForce 6800, and I downloaded the linux version of the drivers. I do everything it says and login to the console, and run the install like it says
[01:36] <D4m4ge> bye all
[01:36] <fiyawerx> abattoir: where's the mic located on these suckers?
[01:36] <fiyawerx> the little hole above the power button?
[01:36] <roadrunner_> I was missing a bunch of packages it required, so I downloaded all of those. Now I am getting this error:
[01:36] <abattoir> fiyawerx: ugh, i dont have one, so dont know, elknof3 might know
[01:37] <roadrunner_> Unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel. Please make sure you have installed the Kernel source files for your kernel and that they are properly configured;
[01:37] <fiyawerx> roadrunner_: did you do the install from the repos?
[01:37] <fiyawerx> roadrunner_: i have a geforce 6600gt pci-e and i did that, worked pretty well for me
[01:37] <elknof3> abattoir, i've tryed automatix and works just great for that driver...
[01:37] <roadrunner_> Im not sure what you mean
[01:38] <roadrunner_> I am an A+ certified man... lol, doesnt help me with linux
[01:38] <roadrunner_> Im a linux noob
[01:38] <clinckarts> OK, gnome-desktop-environment is installed..; But the programs I previously installed are not in the menu... Where to find them?
[01:38] <roadrunner_> Repos = Repositories?
[01:38] <abattoir> elknof3: oh, so mic works now?
[01:38] <focker> Roa
[01:39] <elknof3> abattoir, lol  that message was for fiyawerx... lol
[01:39] <focker> roadrunner_: do a "sudo apt-get install kernel-source"
[01:39] <elknof3> sorry
[01:39] <abattoir> elknof3: oh hehe
[01:39] <_brad> roadrunner, have you tried EasyUbuntu?  Its an app that automagically installs many useful things, including closed source drivers.
[01:39] <elknof3> fiyawerx, try automatix
[01:39] <focker> clinckarts: give it a minute, they will be there
[01:40] <elknof3> fiyawerx, or easyubuntu...
[01:40] <roadrunner_> focker, where/when should I enter that command
[01:40] <focker> easyubuntu is more current supposedly
[01:40] <roadrunner_> like, when I go to the console, do I have to navigate to a certain directory?
[01:40] <focker> roadrunner_: open a terminal or find the package in adept
[01:41] <focker> roadrunner_: no special directory, that command will work anywhere
[01:41] <roadrunner_> I have to do the install from the console (No X server running) so I can't just run the terminal can I?
[01:41] <roadrunner_> oh, ok, thanks
[01:41] <roadrunner_> would you mind telling me what that does? lol. Because I don't know what it means since I am a noob with linux.
[01:41] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying
[01:41] <focker> if you are already at console, that is the same thing
[01:41] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> the damn xmms wont compile for shit
[01:42] <focker> roadrunner_: sudo, means to do the command as if you were root
[01:42] <roadrunner_> I understand that much, I researched it
[01:42] <roadrunner_> I meant, apt-get install kernel source
[01:42] <roadrunner_> what is that doing exactly? Starting with "apt-get"
[01:42] <focker> roadrunner_: apt-get is the program to install software
[01:42] <focker> actually just apt
[01:43] <focker> roadrunner_: apt has a lot of sub commands
[01:43] <clinckarts> Some minuts after... No menu change
[01:43] <roadrunner_> install kernel-source does what?
[01:43] <roadrunner_> Im not understanding how it is "installing" the kernel source...
[01:43] <focker> roadrunner_: apt-get install/remove, apt-cache search, etc.
[01:44] <roadrunner_> ok, thanks
[01:44] <focker> roadrunner_: install is the part you put for any program to install when you use apt
[01:44] <roadrunner_> I gotta go eat... lol. Ill stop back in later, maybe someone else can pick up where you left off =D
[01:44] <roadrunner_> I just didn't understand what installing the kernel source was doing
[01:45] <focker> roadrunner_: kernel-source will grab the program source code for the Linux kernel that should match your currently installed and running Linux kernel unless you did some custom kernel stuff already
[01:45] <focker> Roa
[01:45] <focker> roadrunner_: hold on a sec
[01:46] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying, the damn xmms wont compile for shit
[01:46] <focker> roadrunner_: when you get that pkg, then run the nvidia installer, it will compile the nvidia driver versus the kernel you have so everything will run fine
[01:48] <focker> roadrunner_: you may get errors for compiling tools, don't know
[01:48] <ricardo> helo world!
[01:49] <Kyral> VieLGuS-KuTaS: just apt-get xmms
[01:49] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> doesnt work
[01:49] <Kyral> ???
[01:49] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> not what it needs i guess
[01:49] <Hawkwind> VieLGuS-KuTaS: What does *doesn't work* mean exactly ?
[01:49] <Kyral> Waht are you trying to do anyway?
[01:50] <afm\colossus> don't use xmms any more
[01:50] <afm\colossus> it's gtk
[01:50] <afm\colossus> and therefore obsolete
[01:50] <Kyral> GTK != Bad :P
[01:50] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:50] <afm\colossus> Kyral: gtk sucks
[01:51] <david_> this prolly seems funny i been trying to copy a file and all i can think of is "copy". i can't find anything different
[01:51] <afm\colossus> gtk+ is a-ok
[01:51] <Kyral> on my laptop I depend heavily on GTK1 apps
[01:51] <h3sp4wn> why does kopete need xmms ?
[01:51] <khaije1> Kyral: whats wrong w/ it?
[01:51] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: afaik xmms is just optional
[01:51] <Hawkwind> david_: cp
[01:51] <afm\colossus> xmms is crap
[01:51] <Kyral> khaije1: I said NOT Equals :P
[01:51] <david_> oh thanks
[01:51] <afm\colossus> use beep media player or audacious instead
[01:51] <phasegen> anyone know of a good faq on wireless connection to a windows managed network? holiday inn express isn't very linux friendly...
[01:51] <khaije1> doesn't xubuntu use gtk apps?
[01:51] <Kyral> afm\colossus: for my 4 year old laptop, XMMS is just right
[01:51] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: you can continue installing kopete w/o it
[01:51] <ricardo> anybody knows how to add a program that HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALED, to the K-Menu?
[01:51] <david_> where would i get a list of commands?
[01:51] <afm\colossus> khaije1: gtk+, not gtk
[01:51] <ricardo> thx
[01:51] <Kyral> khaije1: he means GTK1
[01:51] <Hawkwind> ricardo: kmenuedit ?
[01:51] <Kyral> the current GTK version (GTK+ or GTK2) is newer
[01:52] <khaije1> right, doesn't xubuntu use gtk1
[01:52] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: i think ure right , bu what does it do ?
[01:52] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: are you compiling Kopete manually?
[01:52] <Kyral> btw: Audicaous == BMP :P
[01:52] <afm\colossus> Kyral: no, not exactly :>
[01:52] <afm\colossus> it's fork
[01:52] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: xmms? its a music player ;)
[01:52] <afm\colossus> but it's a different project
[01:52] <Kyral> afm\colossus: of the SAME CODEBASE
[01:53] <Kyral> Believe me I read up the entire thing
[01:53] <afm\colossus> to keep me from getting frustrated about your slightly bitchy behaviour
[01:53] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: kopete might need it for the "Now Playing" feature
[01:53] <afm\colossus> i'm off to bed
[01:53] <afm\colossus> bye ;)
[01:53] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: omg , , im so mad
[01:53] <khaije1> oh.. i thought gtk+ and gtk1 were the same... so then whats the diss between gtk+ and gtk2?
[01:53] <phasegen> anyone know of a good faq on wireless connection to a windows managed network? holiday inn express isn't very linux friendly...
[01:53] <khaije1> diss = diff?
[01:53] <Kyral> khaije1: a lot apparently
[01:53] <afm\colossus> gtk+ IS gtk2
[01:53] <Kyral> enough to keep the XMMS devs from upgrading to GTK2
[01:53] <Kyral> because it would break a lot of the plugins written
[01:53] <khaije1> iow gtk+ = gtk2 , lol
[01:53] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: why? :S
[01:53] <Hawkwind> Well there is always xmms2 which uses GTK2
[01:53] <afm\colossus> xmms is not actively developed any more
[01:54] <Hawkwind> afm\colossus: But xmms2 is :)
[01:54] <afm\colossus> Hawkwind: yes, so be it
[01:54] <Kyral> I dunno, all I know is that Xmms works just fine on my laptop
[01:54] <ricardo> THANK! kind of newbie here...
[01:54] <afm\colossus> but there are more mature gtk+-based alternatives at hand
[01:54] <Kyral> on this machine I use Amarok :D
[01:54] <afm\colossus> and in the repos
[01:54] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: because i just spent like half a day trying to get the xmms to compile
[01:54] <Hawkwind> Kyral: It works fine here too :)
[01:54] <focker> David:  google for the dos to linux command reference
[01:55] <Hawkwind> afm\colossus: The good thing is, linux is about choice so users can use what *they* want not what someone else tells them they should
[01:55] <focker> I think he is gone
[01:55] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: which version of kopete are you installing? it might be available in the repos
[01:55] <focker> I can't read fast enough
[01:55] <afm\colossus> Hawkwind: linux is the kernel of GNU
[01:55] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> abattoir: the latest
[01:55] <afm\colossus> not more, but not less, either
[01:55] <afm\colossus> ;>
[01:55] <Kyral> afm\colossus: not true
[01:55] <Kyral> afm\colossus: Hurd is the GNU kernel
[01:55] <Hawkwind> LOL
[01:55] <Kyral> hence "GNU/Linux"
[01:56] <Hawkwind> Didn't mean for someone to get picky down to the very last thing in life
[01:56] <afm\colossus> yeah, and i'll be happy to make the switch once it's here and kicking
[01:56] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: 0.12.0? ok, afaik, 'official' kubuntu packages havent been released for that...
[01:56] <khaije1> i thought we all used ubuntu not linux (j/k :-))
[01:56] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: are you on kubuntu 6.06 or 5.10?
[01:56] <afm\colossus> well, i for one use Gentoo GNU/Linux
[01:57] <afm\colossus> and not Kubuntu GNU/Linux
[01:57] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> focker: kubuntu 606 x64
[01:57] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: you can try http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/
[01:57] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: then its http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kopete/kopete_3.5.3+kopete0.12.0-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb ;)
[01:58] <h3sp4wn> Anyone noticed much difference with the latest fglrx ?
[01:58] <kbrooks> _brad?
[01:58] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: my kubuntu 6.06 x64 came with kopete
[01:58] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> yeah , too late now , thanks though
[01:58] <kbrooks> _brad: easyubuntu SEMI AUTOMATICALLY installs these kind of things
[01:58] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> its already compiling
[01:59] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: compilink kopete manually takes a long time... and lots of disk space too :(
[01:59] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: sorry, trying to keep up here and help while my caffiene is still in effect
[01:59] <abattoir> VieLGuS-KuTaS: but i do it for the jingle support
[01:59] <Kyral> ArchLinux here </late>
[01:59] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> focker: yes. but im getting the new version
[01:59] <kbrooks> _brad: there is a major difference between "installs on run" and "check a few checkboxes, then install"
[01:59] <afm\colossus>      Thu Jun 15 11:14:47 2006 >>> kde-base/kopete-3.5.2
[01:59] <afm\colossus>        merge time: 16 minutes and 4 seconds.
[01:59] <afm\colossus> yeah
[01:59] <afm\colossus> ;)
[02:00] <Hawkwind> Like we're impressed by that, NOT
[02:00] <h3sp4wn> Kyral: Has arch current got xorg 7.1 yet ?
[02:00] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS:  for future reference you may be able to use one from the unstable branch repos
[02:00] <Kyral> h3sp4wn: no
[02:00] <Kyral> the rumors on the Forums are that NO distro will ship Xorg 7.1 for a while
[02:00] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> focker: ok , thanks
[02:01] <Kyral> Because the API changed a lot
[02:01] <Kyral> and right now both NVidia's and ATI's drivers don't work PERIOD
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Kyral: Except Mandriva 2007 which will ship in 2 - 3 months
[02:01] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> i like compiling stuff ,  i just get annoyed with dependencies
[02:01] <afm\colossus> isn't nvidia said to work, with issues?
[02:01] <Hawkwind> Kyral: Nvidia works with 7.1 atleast in Mandriva Cooker currently
[02:01] <Kyral> Hawkwind: The Arch people will have it in a seperate repo
[02:02] <Kyral> Yah but its....Mandriva....
[02:02] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: you should try apt-pinning for certain apps that you want cutting edge, although you risk incompatibilities elsewhere
[02:02] <Hawkwind> Kyral: Heh.  I just made the switch from Mandriva to Kubuntu after 4 1/2 years :P
[02:02] <Kyral> Frankly I don't care one way or another...X 7 works and I'm happy :D
[02:03] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> focker: how would a command for that lok like?
[02:03] <abattoir> Hawkwind: dont you miss urpmi ? :P
[02:03] <Kyral> RPMs == shit :P
[02:04] <Kyral> (From personal experiance)
[02:04] <abattoir> atleast i did, when i switched to Kubuntu :(
[02:04] <Hawkwind> abattoir: A bit yes.  But apt-get is so much darn quicker
[02:04] <Kyral> Only two package managers I like are Apt-Get and Pacman
[02:04] <h3sp4wn> I am just hoping that the r300 driver has improved enough for me to use the open ati drivers for 3d (even if the performance is not as good as fglrx) Otherwise I will just buy a new card but the fact that it almost works now (Is making me hold on a bit)
[02:04] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: google for ubuntu apt-pinning
[02:04] <Hawkwind> abattoir: I know urpmi like the back of my hand, but I am getting the hang of apt-get pretty well
[02:05] <focker> if that doesn't work, try just the apt-pinning howto and it should help
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> What is he trying to pin ?
[02:06] <abattoir> Hawkwind: cool :)
[02:06] <erov> i just got the fglrx drivers working a few weeks ago.. its been great ever since.. cant believe i was missing that much performance.. first noticed it when i tried to play QUAKE 2.. and it was so slow..
[02:07] <erov> now thats bad.. hell i remember being on a p133 and playing quake2 on software drivers
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> They have just released some new ones
[02:07] <visik7> I know this is not In Topic but read this http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html
[02:08] <erov> really? i'll check it out
[02:09] <erov> ive got a 9600 here, you?
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> 9800 pro
[02:09] <focker> VieLGuS-KuTaS: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html  it'll be like "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable kopete"
[02:09] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> focker: ok , ty
[02:11] <h3sp4wn> VieLGuS-KuTaS: If you want to use something from sid you are better off building it yourself with the dapper libraries if you don't want problems later
[02:12] <focker> you should really know what you are doing before messing with sid
[02:12] <focker> or compiling apps for that matter
[02:13] <focker> get help on the first app, before you start jacking around
[02:13] <focker> get too excited and you risk hosing the system
[02:14] <focker> join a local LUG (Linux User Group) if you can find one
[02:14] <h3sp4wn> I have been expecting my system to fall to pieces for ages but its just rock solid still
[02:14] <focker> I've been in one since 1998 and still get help and have a lot of friends and business contacts thru there
[02:16] <focker> for the guy that wanted to run his own apt server,  http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html#s-dpkg-scanpackages
[02:17] <focker> whoops, that is wrong link
[02:17] <abattoir> Hawkwind, i think it was
[02:17] <focker> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto
[02:24] <nrdb> I was wondering is the any video card that can output to more than 2 monitors at once (e.g. 4) I don't need much resolution (800x600) would do.
[02:24] <focker> messed up pasting
[02:25] <roadrunner_> Hey focker, I have another question if you are still available
[02:25] <focker> nrdb: don't think so
[02:26] <nrdb> focker: I didn't think there was much chance.
[02:26] <roadrunner_> Whenever I did the 'sudo apt-get install kernel-souce' it said the package could not be found
[02:26] <focker> nrdb: you need 2 dual head cards.  Nvidia and Matrox both make good ones
[02:26] <johnflux> nrdb: there's a matrox that does 3 cards
[02:26] <johnflux> nrdb: 3 monitors i mean
[02:27] <focker> nrdb: there may be a four head matrox, but it will be pricey
[02:27] <nrdb> johnflux: ok
[02:27] <focker> a friend did a wall of monitors for wrk and spent some bucks
[02:28] <jinho> how do I make a shortcut in linux?
[02:28] <nrdb> just looking at developing a project.
[02:28] <roadrunner_> Focker, you were helping me earlier, and I had another question. So whenever you are available, could you help me again?
[02:28] <focker> roadrunner_: hit tab key at end of that command
[02:28] <focker> to get version
[02:28] <roadrunner_> what will that do?
[02:28] <roadrunner_> I typed in the command and hit enter, then it said package not found
[02:29] <focker> roadrunner_: you could also do a "sudo apt-cache search kernel-source*"  you may not need the sudo with a cache search
[02:29] <focker> roadrunner_: tab, when you are in a terminal or console, will auto complete commands and filenames if it is able
[02:30] <focker> roadrunner_: it is a feature of the bash command line
[02:30] <roadrunner_> alright... but how would that help me with my current problem?
[02:30] <focker> roadrunner_: type that line in console, then hit tab key before the enter
[02:30] <roadrunner_> Because it is simply saying the "kernel-source" package isn
[02:30] <roadrunner_> isnt installed... whatever that means
[02:31] <roadrunner_> alright, Ill see what happens
[02:31] <focker> roadrunner_: it will get you the exact version of the package so you can install it
[02:32] <roadrunner_> okay, hitting tab didn't do anything
[02:32] <roadrunner_> here is exactly what I entered, and exactly what I got in response
[02:32] <focker> roadrunner_:  "sudo apt-cache search kernel-source*"  and then you get one or two avail pkgs. then you type "sudo apt-get install kernel-sourceversion number"
[02:32] <roadrunner_> oh, alright... Ill try that =D
[02:33] <clutt> hey i installed grub and not ever had problems before but this time in kubuntu, when i reboot, grub doesn't load. i just get a blank screen with a blinking cursor. the partitions are ok, and grub seems to find the stage file just find .. anyone know what the problem might be?
[02:33] <roadrunner_> sorry to be an idiot... this is just my first time with linux
[02:33] <focker> you may also be able to  so "sudo apt-get install kernel-s*"
[02:33] <focker> roadrunner_: it's OK, everybody has a first time
[02:33] <focker> roadrunner_: I am about to wind down from my all day caffeine high tho
[02:33] <clutt> tho i've tried reinstalling grub manually from a live cd and still get the same thing
[02:34] <fiyawerx> when configuring apt-build, it asks for my cpu architecture, it's a pentium M, but that's not a listed choice, should I just choose Pentium?
[02:34] <roadrunner_> wacom-tools - utilities for wacom tablets and other hid devices
[02:34] <roadrunner_> vmware-player-kernel-modules-2.6.15-25 - vmware-player modules for Linux (kernel 2.6.15)
[02:34] <roadrunner_> that is exactly what it said after I did the apt-cache thing... now what?
[02:35] <focker> fiyawerx: you might want to at least use pentium 3
[02:35] <focker> roadrunner_: crap
[02:35] <fiyawerx> pentium 3m?
[02:35] <focker> roadrunner_: hold on, let me look here a minute
[02:36] <focker> fiyawerx: no pentium 3 or compatible, but that is not the rihgt wording
[02:37] <OOD> lol
[02:41] <debian_> in k3b when it asks me to specify the max write speed for my combo  cd/dvd burner, is it reffering to max cd recording sped or dvd recording speed
[02:42] <nrdb> debian_: it is used to limit the speed below maximum.
[02:42] <OOD> depends what you're burning
[02:43] <debian_> so if im burning a cd versus a dvd (or vice versa) i have to adjust it based on the disc media?
[02:43] <nrdb> debian_: k3b will try to use the maximum for that particular media, you can then limit lower if you want.
[02:44] <sotired> hey hey hey
[02:44] <debian_> nrdb, k thanks
[02:44] <sotired> i got a quick ? ...this one is a real stumper...
[02:45] <sotired> how do i change my default system media player? i dont like kaffiene much and i want mplayer to be my #1 daddy
[02:45] <OOD> start kcontrol
[02:45] <roadrunner_> mplayer? Where do you get that at?
[02:46] <sotired> sudo apt-get instal mplayer
[02:46] <roadrunner_> I don't personally like Kaffein either, but I couldn't seem to get Xine installed either
[02:46] <OOD> then select kde components
[02:46] <sotired> the only reason i prefer mplayer is because it louder on my system
[02:46] <roadrunner_> it says error, couldn't find package
[02:46] <sotired> thats where i was looking
[02:46] <roadrunner_> where do I get the mplayer package?
[02:46] <sotired> i dont see anything about media
[02:46] <OOD> then file association, then for each file select what player
[02:46] <nrdb> sotired: if you are using konqueror there is a config item to change this
[02:46] <sotired> ill look closer...
[02:47] <roadrunner_> sudo apt-get install mplayer doesn't do anything... it says the package mplayer is missing, so where can I get that package?
[02:47] <OOD> sotired: you find it?
[02:47] <FunkyDiscoMan> DefectiveByDesign.org, today call to sign the petition, calling upon Bono  (U2), to stand against DRM.
[02:47] <FunkyDiscoMan> http://defectivebydesign.org/pressreleases
[02:47] <sotired> oh...i was in the wrong lace...i was n kde components
[02:48] <sotired> thanks
[02:48] <FunkyDiscoMan> Bloody ipod ads :?
[02:48] <OOD> kde components->file associations
[02:48] <roadrunner_> where can I get the mplayer package?
[02:48] <sotired> adept...
[02:48] <sotired> synaptic
[02:49] <arcturus> roadrunner: try easyubuntu or automatix for mplayer installs
[02:49] <OOD> you might need to get hte extra repositories
[02:49] <OOD> or that
[02:49] <sotired> apt get should work
[02:49] <roadrunner_> it isn't there in Adept
[02:49] <sotired> or easyubuntu
[02:49] <OOD> kaffeine plays everything though if you install the w32 codecs
[02:49] <roadrunner_> I opened adept, and ther eis no mplayer
[02:49] <roadrunner_> unless it is labled as something else
[02:50] <OOD> roadrunner_:then you need to get the extra repositories
[02:50] <OOD> !repositories
[02:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:50] <erov> need xvid->dvd mpeg2 though
[02:50] <sotired> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[02:50] <sotired> erov: ive been trying to do that all day
[02:50] <roadrunner_> how do you get the extra repositories? I am a linux noob
[02:50] <sotired> roadrunner_:http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html
[02:50] <Hawkwind> roadrunner_: Read about 5 lines up
[02:50] <OOD> roadrunner_: checl those links
[02:51] <erov> ive been trying forever.. i got it to work.. but the output video is not "right"
[02:51] <sotired> same here
[02:51] <erov> so.. i just gave up and frowned
[02:51] <erov> i wondered if anyone else has those problems
[02:51] <sotired> and mencoder is being mean too me
[02:51] <erov> now i guess it's confirmed :p
[02:51] <arcturus> mplayer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer
[02:51] <nrdb> roadrunner_: one way is to edit the /etc/apt/sources.list file
[02:52] <sotired> i tried using any2dvd...but it looks as if (according to sourveforge) that no one is maintaining it
[02:52] <OOD> you can try vlc
[02:52] <sotired> too many bugs..audi out of sync
[02:52] <sotired> vlc can encode?
[02:52] <OOD> oh you want to encode
[02:52] <sotired> or were you talking to someone else
[02:52] <sotired> :)
[02:52] <sotired> ive tried everything
[02:52] <sotired> i found a soultion
[02:52] <nrdb> roadrunner_: you can also do it using adept (the package manager)
[02:52] <sotired> solution even
[02:53] <sotired> http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Varsha
[02:53] <sotired> but varsha wont run for me
[02:53] <sotired> i have jre and all the other dependencies
[02:53] <sotired> but no dice
[02:53] <arcturus> file associatons:  konqueror > settings > configure konqueror > file associations
[02:53] <roadrunner_> nrdb: How do I get repositories using adept?
[02:53] <OOD> java for video encoding?
[02:53] <sotired> just type it
[02:53] <sotired> i know
[02:53] <sotired> sucks
[02:53] <OOD> that's a bad combination
[02:54] <sotired> but there doesnt seem to be another alternative that will give me video that is in sync
[02:54] <sotired> of course this is all for legal backups of movies i paid for and own ;)
[02:54] <nrdb> roadrunner_: some are allready in the sources.list file commented out.  other than that you need to find the repositories though an external source (e.g. google)
[02:54] <OOD> of course :D
[02:55] <sotired> if i was a coder i would start a project for this...
[02:55] <erov> yeah i dont see why there isnt more compaints
[02:55] <erov> because it is "supposed" to work
[02:55] <OOD> hmm, this might interest you: http://diva-project.org/wiki
[02:56] <sotired> any2dvd is really promising
[02:56] <erov> i used that with the same results sotired
[02:56] <sotired> but no one seems to be working on it
[02:56] <sotired> diva=gnome
[02:56] <nrdb> roadrunner_: have a look at "view->manage repositories"
[02:56] <sotired> phooey
[02:56] <roadrunner_> nrdb: Im not quite sure I know what you mean. How do I add more packages to adept? I am assuming you somehow check other repositories like you said...
[02:56] <OOD> gnome apps work fine :)
[02:56] <sotired> to each their own...i prefer kdw
[02:56] <sotired> kde even
[02:57] <OOD> so do i, but hey if it works
[02:57] <nrdb> roadrunner_: what are you looking for?
[02:57] <roadrunner_> nrdb: ok, so I am looking at that now...
[02:57] <roadrunner_> nrdb: mplayer at the moment
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> I don't really use any gnome apps
[02:57] <OOD> firefox?
[02:57] <roadrunner_> nrdb: and it just isn't in my adept manager... I didn't know how to add it
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> firefox is gtk not gnome
[02:57] <erov> i did at first... then dumped firefox and the rest.. and gave the rest a chance
[02:57] <roadrunner_> Firefox pwns the crap out of Konqueror
[02:58] <sotired> i dunno
[02:58] <erov> alright im going play wolf et..later guys
[02:58] <arcturus> how's everyone like opera?
[02:58] <arcturus> ok?
[02:58] <nrdb> roadrunner_: i don't know what repository mplayer is in
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> multiverse
[02:58] <sotired> i was always a huge firefox fan, but ive found in linux that konqeurer seems better
[02:58] <sotired> multi
[02:58] <arcturus> nrdb: multiverse
[02:59] <sotired> firefox wont play well with flash for me
[02:59] <OOD> i use ie6 for flash
[02:59] <sotired> i like opera, but its a bit slow
[02:59] <Tommy2k4> i <3 opera
[02:59] <sotired> havent used it in linux tho
[02:59] <sotired> opera has some nice features
[02:59] <sotired> mouse gesturing...mmm
[02:59] <arcturus> sotired: any opera <-> mailto dance you've gotta go thru?
[02:59] <nrdb> roadrunner_: if you look down near the bottom of the list you should see a line with multiverse in it.
[02:59] <sotired> i prefer lynx
[03:00] <nrdb> arcturus: thanks
[03:00] <sotired> im not sure
[03:00] <Tommy2k4> i hardly ever use mouse gestures
[03:00] <sotired> btw...the lynx thing was a joke
[03:00] <OOD> i use my 2 extra mouse buttons instead of mouse gestures :D
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> There is no point in using lynx (elinks is pretty good though)
[03:00] <sotired> but you all forgot to laugh
[03:00] <arcturus> firefox <-> thunderbird integration is still a PIA
[03:00] <sotired> PIA?
[03:00] <sotired> oh
[03:00] <arcturus> pain in der ass
[03:00] <sotired> nevrmnd duh
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> arcturus: Not really you just add 2 lines to prefs.js I think it is
[03:01] <arcturus> h3: it should be set up in a menu item
[03:01] <arcturus> none of this js editing bs
[03:01] <roadrunner_> nrdb: dont know what you mean... I looked down through everything there. What am I looking for?
[03:01] <sotired> either way..there are a million tools to convert dvd>xvid seamlessly...but i cant find one simple solution for xvid>dvd
[03:01] <nrdb> roadrunner_: did you find it?
[03:02] <sotired> i used to use a prog called VSOconverxtodvd for M$, it was great...one click and it converts and burns
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> arcturus: Its easy to find out how to it in google (and is only an issue if you are using the firefox and thunderbird that are not in the repos)
[03:02] <sotired> but i guess those days are over for me
[03:02] <roadrunner_> nrdb: no
[03:02] <roadrunner_> nrdb: Im not sure what I am looking for.
[03:03] <focker> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  several of you are going to need this for the multimedia problems you have
[03:03] <arcturus> h3:  it would be easier to name them as defaults from their respective 'preferences' menus
[03:03] <kbrooks> WOW
[03:03] <sotired> i did that days ago...
[03:03] <nrdb> roadrunner_: a line that is gray and says something like "deb http://..... universe multiverse"
[03:04] <arcturus> aka firefox > edt> preferences > email
[03:04] <OOD> it'll just say universe
[03:04] <sotired> erov_:ok..i figured it out
[03:04] <roadrunner_> nrdb: it isnt there
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Have you updated the fglrx that is provided by easybuntu yet ? (There is a new release - may be a reason to recommend it if it deals with that easily)
[03:04] <roadrunner_> nrdb: I see nothing... there are some that say deb and deb-src... but thats it
[03:05] <sotired> erov: find a good dvd ripper, open it up in kate, retype the whole thing backwards and then run it
[03:05] <sotired> :)
[03:05] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: new release? link?
[03:06] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> good morning!  anyone here that's not a bot?
[03:06] <element> I'm getting ready to migrate from windows to Kubuntu and I'm going 64bit in the process.  How stable and how well supported is AMD64?
[03:06] <nrdb> roadrunner_: are you using breezy or dapper ?
[03:06] <arcturus> !windows
[03:06] <ubotu> For help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[03:06] <arcturus> lol
[03:06] <EMACSdaddy> i used to b be a bot
[03:06] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> lol
[03:06] <OOD> roadrunner_: http://img235.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot38pj.jpg
[03:06] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> well, i'm glad your not anymore then
[03:06] <arcturus> !billgates
[03:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about billgates
[03:06] <OOD> that's what it should look like
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8.26.18-x86.run (dapper has 8.25.18)
[03:07] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> ok, so i finally got Kubuntu and replaced Mandriva installation.  w00t!
[03:07] <roadrunner_> yeah, mine just says universe
[03:07] <roadrunner_> no multiverse... does that matter?
[03:07] <OOD> roadrunner: if it's grayed out, then right click and select enable
[03:08] <OOD> roadrunner: then just double click universe, and then type in multiverse
[03:08] <arcturus> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/get.html
[03:08] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: erm. no thanks.
[03:08] <roadrunner_> this is what mine says here
[03:08] <roadrunner_> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/     dapper     universe
[03:08] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> well,  anyone have any idea of how to install hardware or manually detect hardware wtih Kubuntu? i'm kinda lost here and i can't seem to find any manual pages on this subject.
[03:08] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: What is wrong with that ?
[03:08] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: http://kbrooks.ath.cx/index.php/2006/05/13/easyubuntu-philosophy/
[03:09] <OOD> roadrunner_: double cliick the universe part, then just add the multiverse part by typing it in
[03:09] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: i'm not going to take that .run file and put it into easyubuntu
[03:09] <roadrunner_> what does that do? Me changing it I mean. What does it change?
[03:09] <sotired-afk> !free
[03:09] <ubotu> freedom is important. Ubuntu is as free as we can make it, which means mostly free software. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/licensing
[03:09] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: how much software you can download
[03:10] <sotired-afk> !god
[03:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about god
[03:10] <nrdb> roadrunner_: is it black?
[03:10] <kbrooks> sotired-afk: do not abuse the bot
[03:10] <sotired-afk> figures...neither do i
[03:10] <arcturus> !hardware
[03:10] <sotired-afk> sorry
[03:10] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:10] <roadrunner_> it just became black now
[03:10] <roadrunner_> it was grey
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: Yes I know but from that file dapper specific deb's can be created
[03:10] <roadrunner_> but when I added multiverse it became black
[03:10] <OOD> roadrunner_: you add that repository, then you have to click apply to apply the changes, then fetch update
[03:10] <OOD> that's good
[03:10] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: and? i'm not gonna do it
[03:10] <OOD> that means you enabled it
[03:10] <arcturus> ph4t: have u added hardware?
[03:11] <OOD> click apply to apply the changes
[03:11] <roadrunner_> omg, wow
[03:11] <OOD> then just fetch updates and you'll be able to download mplayer
[03:11] <nrdb> roadrunner_: it is now active you will need to do an "fetch updates" and you should be away and running
[03:11] <roadrunner_> I went from like, 5000 to 18000 packages available =D
[03:11] <OOD> yep
[03:11] <roadrunner_> yup... is that the only repository I will need?
[03:11] <roadrunner_> Or are there others I should enable as well?>
[03:11] <OOD> that's mostly all you'll need
[03:11] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> is there any tools on the CD to get hardware to be redietcted and the previous drivers loaded?  i rebooted Kubuntu after having a power outage and now my network card will not connect.  it sees it in LSPCI, but the drivers won't load and even network settings sees nothing.  kinda need a bit of assistance please, if anyone has any spare time or really is a caring type of person....
[03:12] <arcturus> !ati
[03:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:12] <nrdb> roadrunner_: check for mplayer, if its found that all you need to do.
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: I thought the latest ati drivers was a feature of easyubuntu ?
[03:12] <roadrunner_> yup, thanks a ton!
[03:12] <roadrunner_> I know how to do it from here
[03:12] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: we don't do 'latest <thing>'
[03:12] <roadrunner_> I do have another quick question though... I use Firefox by default (I have it set to default) in kubuntu of course... but when I click links from in here, they open in Konqueror... any way to change that?
[03:12] <sotired> http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/2058219
[03:13] <sotired> this sounds good...but the syntax is bad...if anyone knows how to correct this please pm me
[03:13] <sotired> ill  be in and out...
[03:13] <arcturus> ph4t-ph4nt0m: u sure the nice card isn't toast?
[03:14] <arcturus> err ... nic card
[03:14] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> pretty sure.. if it was, lspci wouldn't see it at all
[03:15] <arcturus> not necessarily
[03:15] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> and there's still lights on the back of it.  its my built in nic come with the nForce6 board i have MCP51 chipset type.
[03:15] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: as in, we dont make packages of latest things.
[03:15] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> err nForce 4
[03:16] <arcturus> ph4t-ph4nt0m: try the liveCD & see if network is detected
[03:16] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> oh, and my other OSes that are still operational can still connect thru the internet by it.
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: I would agree with you under most circumstances however that particular driver fixes the issue whereby machines with fglrx don't shut down properly (at least for me) maybe they will put it into dapper-updates because of that. Fair enough
[03:17] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> Mandriva is still residing on a small partition and i rebooted into it after not seeing it in Kubuntu and Mandriva saw and used it.
[03:17] <arcturus> brb
[03:17] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> forgot to mention that heh.
[03:17] <kbrooks> h3sp4wn: someone would have to file a bug
[03:19] <h3sp4wn> kbrooks: There already is a bug but kernel developers are seldom interested in working around bugs in closed source drivers (so I don't hold out for it being fixed)
[03:23] <myte> hey has anyone here successfully patched the madwifi drivers for injection attack and then compiled them and got them running on kubuntu or ubuntu ?
 checked on the driver Mandriva uses.  it's the nvnet driver.  if that's any help to you.  i have the restricted modules for the madwifi, nvidia, etc. installled allso.
[03:24] <h3sp4wn> myte: I use madwifi-ng from svn (but if you do that you can't have linux-restricted-modules installed)
[03:25] <myte> hmm wait a sec
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> myte: You could also use madwifi-old if you wanted
[03:25] <myte> is that wat caused my tainted message before ?
[03:25] <myte> well
[03:25] <myte> i have used madwifi old on fedora before
[03:25] <myte> and debian
[03:25] <h3sp4wn> ath_hal is non free
[03:25] <myte> but always run into propblems when recompiling kernel or some such
[03:25] <myte> oh
[03:25] <roadrunner_> I guess I was lucky... my Linksys Wireless Adapter was recognized right away, didn't need to install any drivers
[03:26] <roadrunner_> I guess the generic ones work wonders =D
[03:26] <myte> well
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> Obviously you have to rebuild modules when you rebuild the kernel
[03:26] <myte> my atheros based card works fine right out of the box
[03:26] <myte> well .... obviously
[03:26] <myte> but i am a freebsd guy
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> So am I (originally)
[03:26] <myte> so this is all pretty foreign to me .. and most info i find seems to contradict eachother
[03:26] <myte> so i am hoiping for a bit of good info
[03:27] <myte> like why and how to do something
[03:27] <myte> like rebuilding modules etc
[03:27] <roadrunner_> ok... I am a complete noob. I kinda understand what it means to rebuild the kernel and all, but could I have a link that explains it better?
[03:27] <roadrunner_> like... so I can learn how to do it/understand what all this crap means >_<
[03:27] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> anyone else have a MCP51 board they are using?
[03:28] <krlos> roadrunner_: already tryed with google?
[03:29] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: why do u need 2 rebuild the kernel
[03:29] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: I dont
[03:29] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: I just would like to learn what it means, and how to modify it and stuff
[03:29] <kbrooks> why do u want to?
[03:29] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: this is just a learning process for me =D
[03:30] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: again, I don't want to. Im just trying to learn the terminology and such
[03:32] <macd> roadrunner_: well kernel.org has a nice howto about the linux kernel and modules, would be a good read to at least know the procedure and why
[03:32] <roadrunner_> ok, cool, thanks alot
[03:32] <roadrunner_> I think I have learned more in the last 2 nights than I have in my entire life >_<
[03:32] <lwizardl> hi
[03:34] <lwizardl> anyone here make their own kde themes?
[03:35] <BoSJo> I would like to get NTFS Access, but i'm a bit confused about what program to install, know that some can destroy the filesystem for Win
[03:37] <larson9999> hmmmm, i'll be danged if i can upgrate to 2.6.15-25 and figure out how to get my nvidia card working.
[03:38] <larson9999> what's the magic trick to that?
[03:38] <rob> open source-ing the drivers might help :P
[03:40] <OOD> larson9999: you have a problem in getting the kernel upgrade to work with the nvidia driver?
[03:41] <larson9999> OOD yep
[03:41] <larson9999> OOD: i think it's because i don't have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686
[03:41] <larson9999> i have linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 instead
[03:42] <roadrunner_> focker: It suddenly said I was an unregistered user now... so... I can't talk to you anymore >_< and I forget how to register
[03:42] <OOD> then get the new linux restricted module
[03:42] <larson9999> OOD: but i'm curious why there would be a linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 but not linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 in the repository
[03:42] <OOD> there is
[03:43] <larson9999> OOD: oops but i'm curious why there would be a linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686 but not linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686 in the repository
[03:43] <OOD> i think they're in the universe or multiverse
[03:43] <larson9999> OOD: when i do apt get the 23 is found but not the 25
[03:43] <BoSJo> roadrunner_ : /msg nickserv register
[03:43] <focker> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[03:44] <focker> "/msg nickserv register <your-password>"
[03:44] <focker> "/msg nickserv identify <your-password>"
[03:44] <OOD> larson9999: the newer linux restricted module is either in the universe or multiverse repository
[03:45] <larson9999> OOD: i'll look
[03:46] <Healot> the new on is in restricted repos
[03:46] <Healot> hence restricted
[03:47] <larson9999> so what line do i need in my sources list?
[03:47] <roadrunner_> um... weird... it says this nickname is already registered
[03:47] <roadrunner_> but it won't let me talk to people privately >_<
[03:47] <roadrunner_> anyone else ever have this problem?
[03:48] <focker> "/msg nickserv identify <your-password>"
[03:48] <larson9999> i have a line that says 'main restricted multiverse'
[03:48] <Healot> roadrunner_: registered by you or someone else?
[03:48] <focker> whatever passord you used last time
[03:48] <focker> password
[03:49] <roadrunner_> it was registered by me about 30 minutes ago, lol
[03:49] <roadrunner_> and I was chatting with Focker fine, then it randomly stopped
[03:49] <Healot> "deb <url> dapper" line >> larson9999 ?
[03:49] <focker> roadrunner_: you sent too much info at once
[03:50] <roadrunner_> yeah... I figured
[03:50] <focker> haha
[03:50] <sss> hey guys
[03:50] <roadrunner_> ok, thanks
[03:50] <focker> roadrunner_: so easy ubuntu pooped out on you
[03:50] <Ashex> I'm looking to hook up my palm pilot to me computer, anyone know of documentation about connecting it?
[03:50] <sss> how can i change the resolution?
[03:51] <focker> Ashex: search for stuff on jpilot
[03:51] <Ashex> sss, kmenu>system settings>display
[03:51] <Ashex> thanks focker
[03:52] <fiyawerx> !kano
[03:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about kano
[03:52] <fiyawerx> yeah, thats what happens when you move your fingers over one spot
[03:52] <fiyawerx> !lamp
[03:52] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:53] <sss> ashex,no this item,why ?
[03:53] <Ashex> sss, what do you mean?
[03:53] <Ashex> elaborate a little more
[03:53] <sss> ashex ,i mean ,no this item in my kmenu
[03:53] <Ashex> you can also use ctrl+alt with -/+ to change resolutions
[03:54] <Ashex> you don't have the system settings button?
[03:54] <sss> ashex,i have system setting button ,but no display setting in it ,so strange
[03:55] <Ashex> sss, look under hardware in the system settings window
[03:56] <Ashex> Grr
[03:56] <Ashex> I know of have at least 5 mini-usb cables for my palm pilot in my room
[03:56] <Ashex> yet I can't find any of them
[03:56] <sss> ashex ,i got a kde 3.5 ,u?
[03:56] <Ashex> yep, 3.5
[03:57] <OOD> it's there it's the second last icon under hardware
[03:57] <OOD> you can't miss it
[03:57] <Ashex> sss, did you click the system settings button?
[03:57] <Ashex> it's not a menu
[03:57] <sss> i just cant find the window u said
[03:58] <sss> ashex ,yea ,and there a submenu,but no display setting there
[03:58] <Ashex> sss, I'm not talking about the system menu
[03:58] <Ashex> there's a button below that called "System Settings"
[04:00] <larson9999> Healot: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted multiverse
[04:01] <Cornellius> Anyone tried that thing that let you use Gmail account as a FileSystem ?
[04:01] <sss> ashex,well ,i didnt see it:(
[04:02] <Healot> gfs? my dsl bs is slow... wont bother as disk resource is abundant
[04:02] <Fiyawerx> hey guys, if i change my server root in /etc/apache2/conf file, i can just move the whole directory to where i want it right? or is there a way to auto-rebuild the conf
[04:05] <Ashex> sss, look harder
[04:06] <burepe> Is there a way to check 2 identical folders for discrepencies? what files are missing or what not?
[04:06] <OOD> sss: http://img328.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot51it.jpg
[04:06] <sss> is there a way i can send u my menu pic?
[04:06] <OOD> i just did
[04:07] <v0taguz> exist any other web with the style of Kde - look ??
[04:10] <sss> well,guys ,the menu in your address is different from mine
[04:10] <OOD> what distro you running?
[04:10] <Fiyawerx> !lamp
[04:10] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[04:11] <larson9999> here is my sources list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16909.  what do i need to add/change so i can install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?
[04:13] <joseph> Is it possible to have a different wallpaper for each of the four desktops??
[04:13] <Healot> yes...
[04:14] <joseph> how!?
[04:14] <Healot> KDE menu -> System Settings - >Desktop
[04:15] <Healot> Click on Background, next select the desktop you want to change the back ground
[04:15] <sss> healot ,OOD, r u talking to me?
[04:15] <OOD> sss: i was, yes
[04:16] <sss> OOD ,i just using kde3.5
[04:16] <joseph> where is kde menu
[04:17] <sss> is there a way i can send my menu pic to u?
[04:17] <OOD> sss: make a screenshot and upload it to imageshack.us
[04:18] <OOD> and give me the link
[04:18] <Healot> at the so-called Panel... see the K? joseph
[04:18] <joseph> well Im running defaul gnome
[04:18] <joseph> default
[04:18] <joseph> Do i need to start up in kubuntu?
[04:19] <larson9999> aha it says i need to add restricted to the security source
[04:19] <Healot> joseph: #kubuntu see
[04:20] <joseph> huh?
[04:20] <Healot> #ubuntu for GNOME question, really, the same OS but different desktop :)
[04:20] <joseph> I have kubuntu installed though
[04:20] <joseph> and gnome wont let me
[04:20] <sss> OOD,how can i make a screenshot of menu ?
[04:20] <focker> kscreenshot
[04:20] <Healot> joseph: you can change the desktop before logging in
[04:20] <OOD> print screen button on your keyboard
[04:20] <joseph> I know
[04:20] <focker> and then open the menu
[04:20] <joseph> BRB then
[04:20] <Healot> bleh...
[04:21] <Healot> is it appropriate to ask GNOME questions in here, or it is just fine to answer?
[04:21] <larson9999> ubuntu drives me nuts enough on security.  debian is worse(or better depending on your view) i suppose
[04:22] <Healot> security in what sense?
[04:23] <larson9999> Healot: stuff being turned off by default for security reasons.  cups for instance.
[04:24] <Healot> well, it is better?
[04:24] <larson9999> Healot: all good things i suppose.  i'm just not very security conscious
[04:24] <Healot> because most of ubuntu users don't have networking environment...
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> that (cups) is annoying. Especially if you are trying to setup a print server w/o a GUI.
[04:25] <larson9999> Healot: just several things that were turned off  by default compare to mandriva which i used for years.
[04:25] <Healot>  I use a Windows Server 2003 printer server instead
[04:25] <Healot> CUPS? heh
[04:27] <larson9999> well cups works great here.  just had to figure out how to enable it.
[04:27] <LeeJunFan> Healot: what sucks is that you need a gui to do everything on windows, when you have to remote admin stuff possibly from a location where the only internet connection you can get is a crappy 9600bps cellphone connection, windows will really piss you off.
[04:28] <larson9999> Healot: most ubuntu users don't have a network environment?  what definition of network are you using?
[04:29] <larson9999> ok. looks like i might have glx now.  lets see.
[04:31] <chx> hi, i have two ISPs and would like to load balance. I am looking at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Adv-Routing-HOWTO/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html where should i put these commands w/ Dapper?
[04:31] <Healot> LeeJunFan: to me, it doesn;t
[04:32] <Healot> i don't have crappy phone line, i don't have crappy old network.
[04:32] <sss> OOD,i cant print it
[04:35] <Healot> chx: you want to load balancing on the router itself or on the networked PC's
[04:37] <Arclite> I received my ShipIt CDs today, and they don't boot.
[04:37] <Healot> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables << this the files that you need to put the route and load balancing commands
[04:38] <Arclite> The kernel loads, it appears, then it goes to a graphical loading screen, finishes there (all "ok"), and goes black. Next thing I know, I get the "kubuntu" splash and loading bar again. From there, nothing happens.
[04:38] <Arclite> It's just stuck right like that
[04:39] <sss> OOD,r u there
[04:39] <chx> Healot: i only have one desktop pc
[04:39] <chx> Healot: so i guess the answer is "the route itself"
[04:40] <sss> lets forget the resolution problem
[04:40] <OOD> sss: run kcontrol
[04:40] <sss> another question ,how can i make  the system bar
[04:43] <larson9999> for something so easy that took forever
[04:43] <sss> OOD?
[04:43] <sss> another question ,how can i make  the system bar
[04:43] <OOD> what do you mean make?
[04:43] <chx> nalioth: hi
[04:44] <Healot> chx: you don't need load balancing with one to one network
[04:44] <nalioth> howdy y'all
[04:44] <sss> there is no system bar now
[04:44] <Healot> unless you have multiple routes, then load balancing might be needed
[04:44] <chx> Healot: i have two ISPs
[04:44] <chx> Healot: and would like to utilize somewhat both
[04:44] <chx> Healot: currently.... when one of them dies, I do a manual ifdown eth1; ifup eth2
[04:45] <sss> whre can i get the system bar?
[04:45] <robotgeek> sss: alt + f2, kdepanel (not sure)  maybe?
[04:45] <Healot> chx: then you may need load balancing
[04:45] <Fiyawerx> ok, just for the record, setting up apache/php/mysql was scary easy
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> chx: Even with load balancing if one goes down active connections won't be switched to the other one
[04:45] <chx> darn
[04:46] <chx> welll no darn
[04:46] <sss> robotgeek,alt+f2 will  run command
[04:46] <chx> i know
[04:46] <chx> i'd like to see a config where if I shut down the connection and open a new one, then it won't try the failed one
[04:46] <chx> here, 'failed' is rather complex -- it should mean 'the default gw does not ping'
[04:47] <chx> because eth won't go down
[04:50] <sss> how can i get the system bar?
[04:50] <sss> the system bar disappeared
[04:50] <chx> look closely
[04:51] <ChefWill> restart x
[04:51] <chx> there is a small rectangle with an arrow in it
[04:51] <LeeJunFan> chx: you'd pretty much need to write a script like if ! `ping [gw] ` ; then ip route change default via [new gw]  ; done
[04:51] <ChefWill> ;/
[04:51] <chx> (if you closed)
[04:51] <ChefWill> you minimized it
[04:51] <ChefWill> click the arrow
[04:51] <chx> yes, that's what I thought
[04:51] <chx> it's possible that Kicker (am I right?) crashed but more likely you managed to minimize it
[04:52] <LeeJunFan> chx: of course it'll be a little more complex than that like ping -c 3 or something, so it wouldn't just ping infinately.
[04:52] <sss> chefwill, what mean of "/"?
[04:52] <chx> sss: that's a smiley
[04:52] <ChefWill> lol
[04:52] <sss> mmmm
[04:52] <sss> i didnt mimimize it
[04:53] <ChefWill> restartx!
[04:53] <sss> whefwill ,ok
[04:53] <nrdb> I am using dapper I was wondering why 3 packages are listed as upgradable but aren't being upgraded?  the packages are 'gtk-imlib1' 'libpt-plugins-alsa' and 'libpt-plugins-v4l'
[04:53] <aeon17x> I'm getting the 'can't open default user face' in my system log
[04:53] <ChefWill> hit apply nrdb
[04:53] <aeon17x> Is there any way to fix that?
[04:53] <sss> by the way ,any method can i just restartx but the apps still run?
[04:54] <joseph> does anyone use amarok here?
[04:54] <ChefWill> yes
[04:54] <nrdb> ChefWill: but when I do nothing happens
[04:54] <joseph> How do you get it so the playlist doesnt keep adding songs when another is done??
[04:54] <ChefWill> ask in #amarok
[04:54] <joseph> Oh
[04:55] <joseph> I didnt know they had an irc
[04:55] <ChefWill> mhm
[04:55] <sss> ?
[04:55] <ChefWill> not really sss
[04:55] <LeeJunFan> nrdb: generally that happens if something those packages depend on is not available. Or it requires installing a package you don't have installed, in which case you need to do apt-get dist-upgrade.
[04:55] <sss> ok,chefwill
[04:56] <aeon17x> It also has this memory courrption message in the log.
[04:56] <aeon17x> Which is a bit scary
[04:56] <nrdb> LeeJunFan: that doesn't do anything ether.
[04:57] <nrdb> LeeJunFan: it just says they are getting help back
[04:57] <chx> Hmmmm it would be so very cool if there would be an X server trickery like screen for console
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> vnc ?
[04:59] <chx> slow
[04:59] <chx> I am looking at NX
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> You can't connect to the same session
[05:00] <sss> chefwill,still no system bar
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> (to the console sorry)
[05:03] <larson9999> nx is pretty fast here
[05:03] <aeon17x> anyone?
[05:04] <larson9999> nx is the best free solution for logging in from windows i know of
[05:05] <chx> larson9999: and would it be possible to create an X session locally, detach it somehow (reattach to some virtual X??) and restart X?
[05:06] <larson9999> chx: errr, what?  i just use it as an xwindows to log in from windows if i have to.
[05:07] <chx> larson9999: what I would like to do is reconfigure X or kernel for that matter and restart in such a way that applications stay running
[05:07] <chx> hm, not the kernel
[05:07] <chx> only X :)
[05:08] <larson9999> oh, i think you can do that.
[05:08] <robotgeek> screen :)
[05:08] <chx> screen...?
[05:08] <chx> with X?
[05:08] <robotgeek> sorry for spamming
[05:09] <Healot> killing X kills all the app that need X
[05:09] <robotgeek> chx: i am also very enthusiastic about screen :)
[05:09] <Healot> btw "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:10] <chx> Healot: now, you see, this "killing X kills all the app that need X" I would like to avoid by using any combination of virtual X server (once I saw that, for servers), nest, freenx and whatever else :)
[05:18] <sotired> boom
[05:18] <sotired> hey quick question
[05:19] <sotired> is there a way to enable dragging between desktops like gnome in kde?
[05:19] <johnflux> sotired: what exactly do you want to drag between?
[05:19] <h3sp4wn> Its enabled by default (just move them using the pager)
[05:19] <sotired> huh?
[05:20] <sotired> you know, like drag a window off screen and it throws it over to the next virtual desktop
[05:20] <sotired> i know i can do it from the panel
[05:20] <sotired> but i mean an actual window
[05:20] <h3sp4wn> I don't see any reason why you would not just do it from the panel
[05:21] <sotired> its a force of habit from using gnome, i was just hoping there was a way to do it in kde
[05:21] <johnflux> sotired: you want to be able to drag a window between desktops?
[05:21] <sotired> i think fluxbox is the same way
[05:21] <sotired> yeh
[05:21] <johnflux> sotired: lemme check
[05:22] <sotired> ok, thnx
[05:22] <johnflux> sotired: did you have a look in kcontrol?
[05:22] <sotired> i poked around for a bit
[05:22] <sotired> ill check again
[05:22] <Healot> I need a distraction a bit. I am going to Hong Kong next week. Should I find a hoe during my days off?
[05:22] <khaije1> it's called active borders
[05:22] <johnflux> sotired: I think what you want is in Window Behavour
[05:23] <johnflux> sotired: what khaije1 said.  chose active desktop borders under advanced
[05:23] <khaije1> i only have xubuntu in front of me atm so i'm not sure where it is but window behavior sounds rights :-)
[05:23] <johnflux> sotired: chose either 'always' or 'own when dragging windows'
[05:24] <sotired> own? haha
[05:24] <khaije1> there is a timer too so you can customize it
[05:24] <johnflux> sotired: only heh
[05:24] <johnflux> sotired: sorry its' 4am heh
[05:24] <sotired> thats it
[05:24] <khaije1> sotired: is the lan-gamez setting
[05:24] <sotired> thanks guts
[05:24] <sotired> where are you? its 11:25 pm here
[05:24] <sotired> ha
[05:24] <johnflux> uk
[05:25] <sotired> i c
[05:25] <johnflux> 4:23am :)
[05:25] <OOD> 11:25 same
[05:25] <sotired> what the hell are you doing on irc...go to bed!
[05:26] <sotired> ood: east coast?
[05:26] <h3sp4wn> 4:28am here ( I hope)
[05:27] <sotired> heh
[05:27] <OOD> sotired: yea
[05:27] <sotired> <---philadelphia here
[05:28] <OOD> Ontario, Canada :D
[05:28] <sotired> oooh,....i love canafa
[05:28] <sotired> canada even
[05:28] <OOD> lol
[05:28] <sotired> i've only been to montreal
[05:28] <sotired> but it was wonderful
[05:28] <OOD> eh montreal sucks, too much french :P
[05:29] <sotired> yeh...lots of french and no drinking in the casino...but in general the people seemed to be much more tolerant than in the states
[05:29] <sotired> but i only spent a month there
[05:30] <sotired> i dont know if anyone was here earlier, but iw as trying all day to conver xvids to dvd. I think i've decided on a solution
[05:30] <sotired> but it may not work.
[05:30] <OOD> yea i remember, you have a solution?
[05:30] <sotired> I'll try using the app i used to use in m$ with wine
[05:31] <sotired> i have no experiance with wine whatsoever...
[05:31] <Healot> is it true that there are some anglophone French-Canadian?
[05:31] <sotired> is it slow?
[05:31] <Healot> WINE, some compatibility issues, but not speed
[05:31] <sotired> if i knew what an anglophone was, id answer it
[05:31] <OOD> depends on the program, some programs work just as good or better than in windows, some dont at all
[05:31] <sotired> im going to go ahead and give it a shot
[05:32] <sotired> ill give live updates from the battelfront :)
[05:32] <OOD> Healot: you mean french people with a uk accent?
[05:32] <Healot> French-Canadian that speaks only English?
[05:33] <sotired> most people i met spoke english as well as french...
[05:33] <jerry> hi
[05:33] <sotired> hi jerry
[05:33] <OOD> most people know both
[05:34] <sotired> mmmm...freedom fires
[05:34] <sotired> *fries
[05:34] <Healot> cool, now I know why UN voted Canada as the best place to live in this world
[05:34] <indieross> ok im a total noob and need some help installing this kernel module ntfs package
[05:35] <OOD> you need this to read ntfs drives?
[05:35] <jerry> I am trying to make this program but I keep getting errors
[05:35] <indieross> yeah
[05:35] <OOD> you don't need it
[05:35] <indieross> i dont?
[05:35] <OOD> no
[05:35] <sotired> @OOD qft
[05:35] <indieross> how do i access it
[05:35] <OOD> give me a sec, ill find the how-to i don't rememver the comamnd by heart :P
[05:35] <sotired> mount it...mount as hard as you can
[05:36] <sotired> sry...im done
[05:36] <indieross> haha
[05:36] <johnflux> sotired: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/04/17/2058219
[05:36] <johnflux> sotired: I've used that sort of thing before
[05:37] <sotired> thank you johnflux. We actually tried that earlier a few different ways and came up with useless fubar
[05:37] <sotired> but thanks anyway
[05:37] <sotired> i just grabbed wine and im going to see if this works out for me
[05:37] <johnflux> heh
[05:38] <OOD> indieross: damm i had it bookmarked but i did a clean install
[05:38] <indieross> ahh i see
[05:39] <indieross> well anyway how do i install packages
[05:39] <indieross> im totally lost
[05:39] <Healot> !ntfs
[05:39] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:39] <Healot> for a debian package "dpkg -i filename"
[05:39] <indieross> oh cool thanks alot
[05:39] <Healot> for rpm and others
[05:39] <Healot> !alien
[05:39] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[05:40] <indieross> ok
[05:40] <Healot> indieross: btw, are you using Fedora Core?
[05:40] <Healot> or used it before
[05:40] <OOD> indieross: found it, just search ntfs, it's a long page :) http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount.2Funmount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_manually.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[05:40] <indieross> im useing kubuntu
[05:41] <dr_willis> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same. :P
[05:41] <dr_willis> well at the core level they are. :)
[05:41] <indieross> i wanted to use ubuntu but my windows messed up up so i just got the kubuntu cd's sent to me so thats what im using
[05:42] <sotired> http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=vso_DivXtoDVD
[05:42] <sotired> !!!!!!!!
[05:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!!!!!!
[05:42] <sotired> w00t
[05:42] <sotired> that page says my prog will work w/wine
[05:42] <sotired> and it only took me 16 hours to come to that conclusion!
[05:43] <OOD> not bad :P
[05:45] <earHertz> under kde, what's the GUI app for setting up samba shares?
[05:45] <Hobbsee_phone> earHertz: konqueror?
[05:45] <sotired> konqeuer
[05:45] <sotired> beat me to it and spelled it right...
[05:45] <nixternal> "kmenu > system settings > sharing"
[05:46] <dr_willis> SWAT is the web interface to samba
[05:46] <dr_willis> ive also used webmin befor.
[05:46] <dr_willis> but samba is easially configrued with a text editor and some knowhow :)
[05:47] <earHertz> thanks guys
[05:47] <sotired> so if im going to use an app with wine, i run the installer like this- wine installer.exe ?
[05:48] <OOD> or just double click it if it's on your desktop
[05:48] <dr_willis> sotired,  bingo!
[05:48] <dr_willis> dont do the double clicking thang. :P be a man! use the shell
[05:48] <sotired> it just feels wrong runnign a windows app in linux...this islike a whole enw realm to me
[05:49] <sotired> @dr_willis hahaha
[05:49] <OOD> lol
[05:49] <sotired> when i decided to switch i figured i would just use OSS alternatives
[05:50] <dr_willis> sotired,  i tend to use winrar under linux  quite a bit.
[05:50] <sotired> ive been using nvu for my web stuff, just as good as that other $400 piece of junk iwas using...dreamweaver
[05:50] <dr_willis> and with wine. i can completely remove/reinstall winrar every 30 days. :)
[05:50] <OOD> i use wine since there are no open source alternatives to a few games and FL Studio (best muisc program eva! :D)
[05:50] <sotired> really? i've been using ark and 7-zip. what does winrar do that those dont?
[05:51] <OOD> hows you get winrar to work, it refuses to work for me
[05:51] <dr_willis> It has some features i like.. like convert all files in a dir to individual zips for one
[05:51] <sotired> ohh, i see
[05:51] <dr_willis> good for game roms. and disk images for emulators
[05:51] <sotired> so, with wine installed, if i click ona windows exe, it automatically calls up wine?
[05:51] <dr_willis> OOD, i do tend to us ecedega instead of the normal wine.. not sure if theres a diff.
[05:52] <dr_willis> sotired,  perhaps.. thats why its best to use the shell
[05:52] <Healot> OOD: tried 7zip yet
[05:52] <sotired> i use my dreamcast for nes and mame emu's :)
[05:52] <Healot> it rips rar's behind
[05:52] <dr_willis> wine and the installer may need some extra options to work right
[05:52] <dr_willis> Healot, 7zip is lacking in some ways i find.
[05:52] <sotired> ok...here goes
[05:52] <dr_willis> but it depends on your needs.
[05:52] <OOD> cedega only plays games, wine can run so many other programs
[05:53] <OOD> Healot: i tried it before and it didn't work
[05:53] <Healot> you whiners
[05:53] <sotired> i made a new foldr on my desktop, i can see it in a shell, but not onscreen, even after a refresh...what gives?
[05:53] <dr_willis> OOD,  cedega does not 'ONLY PLAY GAMES' i use it only to run apps mainly. :P
[05:53] <dr_willis> ive never nopticed anything wine runs that cedega cant.
[05:53] <sotired> permisions issue?
[05:53] <OOD> dr_willis: really? what else does it run?
[05:54] <Healot> cedega is WINE/// with more DX support and some other bs
[05:54] <dr_willis> OOD,  anything wine can run.
[05:54] <dr_willis> its based on the same code
[05:54] <dr_willis> i use it to run winrar for one. :P
[05:54] <dr_willis> and some other tools i like.
[05:54] <OOD> it was a few years ago, but cedega has very different code now, they don't even use the registry
[05:54] <Healot> I'll for Windows to run Windows application
[05:54] <Hawkwind> Why not just use rar/unrar that's available for Linux ?
[05:54] <OOD> dual-booting sucks though
[05:54] <Healot> why bother with WINE... even it isn't an emulator
[05:55] <sotired> omg...its a windows window in kde
[05:55] <dr_willis> Healot,  thats a good thing. :P
[05:55] <sotired> i think i just pooped
[05:55] <stephan__> hi
[05:55] <dr_willis> why bother with comptuers..
[05:55] <dr_willis> Howdy
[05:55] <jerry> I have a question
[05:55] <stephan__> i had a real problem, just installed kubuntu and resized my ntfs partition with the setup
[05:55] <sotired> uhh...stupid question.. what path should i give the installer? it want sto goto c:\program files
[05:56] <stephan__> but there is no option in grub to select the win install to boot, so i added one
[05:56] <dr_willis> sotired,  normally wine makes a 'fake windows' directory in your home dir some where.
[05:56] <OOD> wherever you want, but there's already a fake c:\ drive in .wine in your home directory
[05:56] <sotired> ok...thanks dr
[05:56] <Healot> ./wine/<drive>/path
[05:56] <stephan__> but i trie all 0,0 0,1 0,2 a so on
[05:56] <dr_willis> cedega and wine may also do a seperate fake-windows dir. for each installed program.
[05:56] <stephan__> but it cant't boot
[05:56] <sotired> omg it worked
[05:57] <OOD> yep
[05:57] <stephan__> can anybody guess if my data is gone?
[05:57] <OOD> amazing isn't it :D
[05:57] <dr_willis> ive seen that used a lot to keep all programs seperate.
[05:57] <sotired> yes
[05:57] <dr_willis> well night all.
[05:57] <jerry> is there any program that will allow me to connect to a BBS through Telnet and when something like "Global: plus someone entering a message" that it gets parsed to a different window? + auto reconnect on disconnect?
[05:57] <sotired> g'night dr_willis
[05:57] <sotired> bbs? reminds me of childhood
[05:57] <sotired> rocking the 9600 baud
[05:57] <jerry> well for MUD
[05:58] <Hawkwind> LOL @ 9600.  That was way down the road.  I remember 300baud quite well
[05:58] <jerry> I tried KMC but I can't seem to get make to work
[05:58] <sotired> i wasnt born yet...
[05:58] <stephan__> i'm a bit frustrated, should parted recognize ntfs patitions?
[05:58] <jerry> what's 300 baud like?
[05:58] <sotired> or old enough to type at leat
[05:58] <Healot> I still use 9600 to access CISCO routers
[05:58] <Hawkwind> sotired: Ok, so I'm showing my age :P
[05:58] <Healot> the rest are 100Mbps and above... f*** :)
[05:58] <sotired> i remember being the man wiht my 56k "how could it ever get faster than this?!?!?!"
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> Healot: Any routers I need to config I just change the baud rate to 115200
[05:59] <earHertz> crap. I guesss I need to edit sdamba.conf?
[05:59] <claydoh> hey Hawkwind did you ever figure out your bittorrent/router problems?
[05:59] <sotired> yay!!!! its converting!!!
[05:59] <sotired> w00t
[05:59] <sotired> there was someone else earlier trying to achieve the sam as me...
[05:59] <OOD> <B Wine
[05:59] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Yes and no.  I got 2 sites to work, but the one I really want it to work with, it won't work.
[05:59] <claydoh> :(
[06:00] <Healot> don't need that speed for router console though
[06:00] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Well, bittorrent won't work on any of them.  ktorrent works for 2 of them
[06:00] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[06:02] <claydoh> Hawkwind: I might suggest trying out ktorrent 2.0beta
[06:02] <claydoh> http://ktorrent.org/index.php?page=downloads
[06:02] <claydoh> it might work better for you
[06:03] <claydoh> use the breezy deb, it has worked well for me in Dapper
[06:03] <sotired> ok...goodnight everyone...a round of nexuiz and sleepy time!
[06:03] <OOD> later
[06:04] <Healot> he reaally means it
[06:04] <jerry> wow is there any way to turn off the font on my computer
[06:05] <jerry> oh nm that was the outside fan
[06:05] <jerry> I still can't get kmc to make
[06:05] <stephan__> no tip about my possibly lost ntfs partition?
[06:05] <stephan__> what can i try?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> claydoh: dpkg: error processing ktorrent_2.0beta1-1_i386.deb (--install):
[06:06] <Hawkwind>  trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-bittorrent.desktop', which is also in package kdelibs-data
[06:06] <jerry> Is there any way to use the window and that button that looks like a pointer and a menu box?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> claydoh: That's when I tried to install the 2.0beta ktorrent just now with dpkg
[06:06] <jerry> actually just the window key
[06:06] <claydoh> oh, yeah I hadda force it
[06:06] <Hawkwind> claydoh: How do you force something with dpkg ?
[06:06] <Hawkwind> Just -f ?
[06:07] <claydoh> sudo dpkg -i --force all foo.deb
[06:07] <claydoh> or was it --force -all?
[06:08] <indieross> i sork of have my ntfs disks mounted but it wont let me access files
[06:08] <indieross> sort*
[06:08] <indieross> i can see them but that about it
[06:08] <Hawkwind> indieross: Permission problem ?
[06:08] <indieross> i think so
[06:08] <OOD> you can't write to an ntfs drive if that's what you mean
[06:08] <claydoh> sudo dpkg -i --force-all foo.deb
[06:08] <indieross> no i just want to access the files
[06:08] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[06:09] <Hawkwind> OOD: Good catch. I read that NTFS as NFS actually :P
[06:09] <claydoh> corrupted iso/disk/bad burn?
[06:09] <OOD> lol
[06:09] <indieross> oh snap that might be it
[06:09] <Hawkwind> claydoh: Thanks :)
[06:10] <woo> claydoh: I've burned it a couple times, different ISO's - different CD's.
[06:10] <indieross> but anyways how do i fix the permission problems?
[06:10] <claydoh> old man is loosing his memory already
[06:10] <indieross> thay arent passwd protected
[06:10] <jerry> Hi
[06:10] <jerry> I have a question
[06:10] <claydoh> *this* old man, rather
[06:11] <jerry> I'm trying to run something that requires Tcl
[06:11] <Arclite> I'm having a problem booting from the Live CD. The kernel loads, it appears, then it goes to a graphical loading screen, finishes there (all "ok"), and goes black. Next thing I know, I get the "kubuntu" splash and loading bar again. From there, nothing happens.
[06:11] <jerry> !Tcl
[06:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about Tcl
[06:12] <indieross> im gonna restart and try to fix the problem
[06:12] <indieross> peace
[06:12] <Arclite> Does anyone know if that's a known problem? I've searched the forums and the wiki. Nothing.
[06:12] <Hawkwind> jerry: So install tcl maybe ?
[06:13] <Hawkwind> jerry: apt-cache search tcl  will give you a list of tcl packages you might want/need
[06:16] <OOD> alright im out, night
[06:17] <Healot> every drunkards out of here
[06:17] <Healot> !find tcl
[06:17] <ubotu> Found: expect-tcl8.3, libdb4.2-tcl, libdb4.3-tcl, libpgtcl-dev, libpgtcl1.5 (and 81 others)
[06:17] <jerry> oh I found it thanks :0
[06:17] <jerry> :)
[06:17] <jerry> lol
[06:22] <indieross> okay now i need help installing a tar.gz file
[06:22] <Hobbsee> !compile
[06:22] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[06:22] <Hobbsee> indieross: what package?
[06:23] <indieross> its flash
[06:23] <Healot> follow the instruction at Adobe dl page
[06:24] <Hobbsee> !flash
[06:24] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:24] <Healot> well, unpack the tarball, then cd the directory it created... next type ./install* (to run it silly)...
[06:24] <Hobbsee> indieross: flash is covered in that top link
[06:24] <indieross> ok cool
[06:25] <indieross> does jubuntu natively support .mp3 and .m4a?
[06:26] <indieross> kubuntu*
[06:27] <Healot> with !libxine-extracodecs most MPEG audio/video are supported
[06:27] <Healot> AAC/MPEG-4 audio? humm... need other thing for that
[06:28] <indieross> where do i get !libxine-extracodecs
[06:28] <Hobbsee> !multiverse
[06:28] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:29] <indieross> so would that also be found in kubuntu
[06:32] <Healot> !wonderful world of disneyland
[06:32] <ubotu> I know nothing about wonderful world of disneyland
[06:34] <indieross> okay i got the package for the codecs and its a .deb file how do i install/compile it
[06:44] <sotired> cant sleep
[06:46] <sotired> i just want to thank everyone in here. I've been addicted to the internet for years, and the linux community (kubuntu namely) is by far the most helpful and freindly place i have seen in a long time
[06:47] <sotired> and no, im not drunk
[06:47] <sotired> well, a little bit :)
[06:51] <word> I have a GeForce 6800 and the newest..not the second newest..nvidia-glx package causes the bottom half inch of my screen to appear like a tv does when the channel is fuzzy. :-/
[06:52] <word> But only when an application with a white background is in full screen
[07:00] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I start dekorator?
[07:04] <jerry> hi
[07:04] <jerry> I have a question
[07:05] <dumbkiwi> jerry: no one can answer an unasked question ...
[07:06] <jerry> I am looking for something that will let me connect to a telnet BBS with MUD and that will parse lines with particular information like "Global: this is a message someone is sending with global" to a seperate window. Also have auto connect on disconnect.
[07:09] <jerry> ok I'm trying to run an eggdrop but it says while executing "! /home/jerry/eggdrop (file "eggdrop.conf" line 1) * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[07:11] <Cornellius> jerry: Try #ubuntu too
[07:18] <arso> hey guys
[07:18] <arso> is thre an active firewall in kubuntu or something
[07:18] <osiris> jerry, cd into the eggdrop dir
[07:18] <arso> coz my internet is really faster in windows
[07:18] <arso> its so slow here
[07:18] <uranos> wenas noches alguin que me de los repositoriia
[07:19] <jerry> ok
[07:19] <osiris> then do ./eggdrop
[07:20] <KaiserSuse> arso: is it always slow or just when opening sites? (I'm assuming you're talking about web browsing)
[07:21] <arso> KaiserSuse:  so far , only web browsing,
[07:21] <arso> KaiserSuse:  havent been downloading much YET
[07:22] <KaiserSuse> arso: google for disabling IPv6 in kubuntu (KDE) and try again
[07:24] <arso> KaiserSuse:  k thnx
[07:26] <arso> KaiserSuse:  this looks good?
[07:27] <KaiserSuse> arso: what?
[07:28] <arso> KaiserSuse:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798
[07:28] <arso> KaiserSuse:  omg, sorry, forgot to add link lol
[07:28] <arso> KaiserSuse:  but when i write the commands, they say wrong command
[07:28] <KaiserSuse> arso: hold a sec
[07:29] <arso> KaiserSuse:  k, oh i think theyre not commands, have to add some lines to a file
[07:29] <krinns> helo
[07:29] <krinns> any one works on failover on ltsp
[07:32] <KaiserSuse> arso: those commands are not to be typed into a terminal... enter them in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases (kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/aliases)
[07:33] <arso> k thnx
[07:33] <jerry> is there something wrong with # !/home/dan/eggdrop/ or ! /home/dan/eggdrop/
[07:33] <arso> KaiserSuse:  just add them to the end?
[07:34] <KaiserSuse> arso: no, look for the line that has "alias net-pf-10 ipv6" and comment it out (put a # in front of it.) Then, below add the other three lines
[07:35] <indieross> can someone tell me how to install a .deb file in kubuntu
[07:35] <KaiserSuse> indieross: dpkg -i <package>
[07:38] <indieross> it didnt work
[07:39] <indieross> syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[07:39] <DjDarkman> hy ,I just wanted to install dekorator 0.3 and got this error
[07:39] <DjDarkman> dpkg: error processing kde-dekorator-0.3-ubuntu_0.3-1_i386.deb (--install):
[07:39] <DjDarkman>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde3/kwin3_deKorator.la', which is also in package dekorator
[07:39] <DjDarkman> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:39] <DjDarkman> what should I do now?
[07:41] <DjDarkman> what does that mean?
[07:42] <arso> KaiserSuse:  does this look right please :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16925
[07:42] <indieross> is there any other way to install the deb package?
[07:47] <TheHighChild> indieross: 'sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb'
[07:47] <KaiserSuse> arso: looks right to me :) But you should reboot now, I'm afraid. Other thing you might try, related to that is (as root) echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment
[07:49] <arso> KaiserSuse:  paste al that in a terminal? "echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment"
[07:53] <arso> KaiserSuse_:  ? plz
[07:53] <TheHighChild> arso: yes
[07:53] <KaiserSuse> arso: sorry, what?
[07:53] <arso> KaiserSuse:  do i paste
[07:53] <arso> KaiserSuse:  "echo 'KDE_NO_IPV6=1' >> /etc/environment" into terminal?
[07:53] <TheHighChild> copy with ctrl +c and paste into the terminal with shift + insert
[07:54] <arso> ok thnx TheHighChild
[07:54] <KaiserSuse> arso: yup, as root(or just sudo it)
[07:54] <arso> still getting access denied
[07:54] <arso> even with sudo
[07:54] <arso> or with "sudo -v" then that
[07:54] <TheHighChild> I usually tell people commands with out the sudo, I figure if they can'tfigure it out, F'em
[07:55] <TheHighChild> arso 'sudo -i'
[07:55] <arso> oh
[07:55] <arso> thanx
[07:55] <TheHighChild> That puts you into a root environment
[07:55] <arso> how come no need for pass
[07:55] <arso> ok done
[07:55] <TheHighChild> then 'exit' or better yet 'sudo -k'
[07:55] <TheHighChild> to leave
[07:55] <arso> k
[07:55] <arso> thnx
[07:56] <arso> so wat does sudo -v do?
[07:56] <TheHighChild> arso: There is a time delay on sudo, if you enter your pass, it times out at some point but not immediately
[07:56] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> anyone know where a hardware seeker/installer is in Kubuntu Dapper?
[07:56] <arso> i see thnx
[07:56] <TheHighChild> arso: Dunno, do 'man sudo' use page up and page down and q to quit
[07:56] <KaiserSuse> arso: open konqueror and try this for URL: man:sudo
[07:57] <TheHighChild> ph4t-ph4nt0m: seeker?
[07:57] <arso> i didnt restart yet btw
[07:57] <kosh> KaiserSuse: heh that was the one I was about to paste in
[07:57] <arso> i am KaiserSuse
[07:57] <arso> in*
[07:57] <kosh> also if you want to do you can do alt-f2: man:sudo
[07:57] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> yeah,  my dapper installation lost my MCP51 chipset netwrok card.  lspci sees it, but it doesn't show up in the network config window.
[07:57] <kosh> that will open a new konqueror window to the sudo manpage
[07:58] <TheHighChild> ph4t-ph4nt0m: You see the device?
[07:58] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> it's an integrated chipset on my nforce board that uses the nvnet driver...
[07:58] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> ryes.
[07:58] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> yes
[07:58] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> in lspci
[07:58] <arso> so wat do i do there? in man:sudo
[07:58] <arso> ohhh
[07:58] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> i see the device.
[07:58] <arso> read
[07:59] <KaiserSuse> arso: for all those changes to take effect you should restart yer peecee
[07:59] <TheHighChild> arso: man pages are like a manual for a command. You can check man pages for most commands. I was just suggestin that as a method to find what the v option does
[07:59] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> but Dapper lost it in the network config window.  i had it then i had a power outage.  then it lost it at next boot.
[07:59] <arso> hai!
[07:59] <KaiserSuse> arso: yup, that's a nice interface for the man pages
[07:59] <arso> oh ok, so are their man pages for everything?
[07:59] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> i know it's not fried, since Mandriva still uses it with no probs.
[08:00] <TheHighChild> arso: mostly but not everything and some are severely lacking
[08:00] <KaiserSuse> TheHighChild: yup, Linux ain't no OpenBSD not solaris in that respect
[08:00] <TheHighChild> arso: some are incredibly complex on the other hand. If you're checking them out in the terminal, you might want to use 'grep' it's a way to pull a string from a text file. So you can do 'man sudo |grep -v'
[08:01] <TheHighChild> KaiserSuse: Yeah but those other OS's aren't for the Universe of computing needs.
[08:02] <ph4t-ph4nt0m>  my setup is perfect with Dapper, so i don't want to reformat just for my nic.  i need to find a way to reinstall the nic without reformat.
[08:02] <TheHighChild> With a fast evolving OS, documentation gets lost out to google cached newsgroup postings
[08:05] <TheHighChild> well gents, the hot tub awaits. take care
[08:07] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> TheHighChild --> you got any idea on what's wrong and what i should do?
[08:08] <arso> TheHighChild:  umm wats the "|" for?
[08:08] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> | is a pipe
[08:08] <arso> pipe?
[08:09] <arso> ok brb i'll restart
[08:09] <arso> interesting world, this linux
[08:13] <arso> wow, its way faster
[08:13] <KaiserSuse> arso: see?
[08:14] <arso> ya
[08:14] <arso> is this only for browsing?
[08:14] <arso> is there any other thing for downloading or torrents or something
[08:14] <KaiserSuse> arso: of course, you will not be able to use IPv6 now. I think you will have to change that back in, say, 15 years
[08:15] <KaiserSuse> arso: those changes are global (except the one with KDE in it)
[08:16] <arso> KaiserSuse:  issssee
[08:16] <ubuntu> hewwo
[08:17] <arso> KaiserSuse:   does this only work for firefox ,or kunque too?
[08:19] <KaiserSuse> arso: I *think* it works for everything. I can't try that since I'm on dialup. But why don't you go ahead and open firefox and tell us?
[08:20] <arso> KaiserSuse:  it seems faster with firefox
[08:20] <wizpig64> mkay, heres the scoop. im installing kubuntu for the first time, and i dont want to get rid of my windows data. i created partitions especially for kubuntu next to my windows partitions. when i get to the "Prepare mount points" section of the install, it wants me to mount my windows partitions as "/media/sda1." will this not harm my windows install? is it safe?
[08:20] <wizpig64> yarg, sorry bout the long post
[08:21] <zardoz> sweet got twinview working...
[08:22] <wizpig64> can anyone help :(?
[08:22] <kosh> wizpig64: sorry I have not looked at the installer in a long time, my guess is that it should be perfectly okay since it knows it it putting it under /media but I can not absolutely confirm that
[08:23] <kosh> wizpig64: however if your windows system is done with ntfs it is better not to mount it
[08:23] <kosh> wizpig64: read only is fairly safe but read/write is not safe
[08:23] <wizpig64> thanks :)
[08:24] <lowtech> wizpig64: sda1 is the first partition on a scsi or usb drive, i believe
[08:24] <kosh> if you want to share files between linux and windows the best idea is to use a fat device of some kind
[08:24] <wizpig64> mkay
[08:24] <kosh> it can be a partition, usb flash drive etc
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> wizpig64, looks like you are using an external drive. Its safe to mount as it simply mounts.. and windows is very keen for any changes to its system files..
[08:24] <kosh> lowtech: it can be an sata drive also
[08:24] <kosh> lowtech: sata uses the scsi device names
[08:24] <lowtech> kosh: ah yes, thanks
[08:24] <kosh> heck eventually ide will use the scsi devices names
[08:24] <wizpig64> im not using an external drive, ive got 2 internal drives. im putting Kubuntu on the secondary one
[08:25] <kosh> since hte ide stuff is supposed to be rewritten
[08:25] <kosh> wizpig64: my guess is you are using sata right?
[08:25] <wizpig64> yea
[08:25] <|lostbyte|> wizpig64, sata ?
[08:25] <wizpig64> yea..
[08:25] <wizpig64> kosh: yes
[08:25] <lowtech> sda would the primary, sdb would be secondary
[08:26] <zardoz> wizpig64: I turned off my windows drive when loading. and keep it off till Ai have to use it...
[08:26] <wizpig64> yea, i have some in sdb, some in sda
[08:26] <wizpig64> turn it off as in manually unplug it?
[08:26] <zardoz> nope in the bios
[08:26] <wizpig64> ok
[08:26] <zardoz> disabled the port
[08:26] <wizpig64> right
[08:27] <zardoz> that way the system does not even see it
[08:27] <kosh> I have never lost anything before in windows when working with linux for about 10 years now however the only thing I use windows for is games so even if all the windows partitions completely died it would just mean reinstalling stuff from cd but no loss of data
[08:27] <zardoz> yeah I am using windows for games
[08:27] <kosh> zardoz: that is not a very good idea if you have windows as the first drive and remove it with linux on the second drive, it will change the device enumeration
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> I use wine for games.
[08:28] <kosh> zardoz: which means the new drive will be sda most likely since it will be the only sata drive but it will become sdb when the windows drive is plugged back in, at that point linux will no longer boot without knowing how to fix it
[08:28] <kosh> wine does not work for the games I play
[08:28] <zardoz> kosh: nope... if it's off the linux drive looks like the first drive
[08:29] <zardoz> and the same goes when I turn off the linux drive and turn on the Windows drive...
[08:29] <lowtech> sounds like a pain having to go into the bios every time you want to use another OS
[08:29] <kosh> ah so you never run them at the same time
[08:29] <wizpig64> no, i have my C: drive as my windows install, and the first part of my F: drive for just data (music, torrents). i took a chunk of the F drive and partitioned it to both a linux-swap partition and a linux partition
[08:29] <zardoz> I never have both on at the same time
[08:29] <kosh> if you tried to run both at the same time it would cause a problem
[08:30] <zardoz> true, but I dont do that ( that would be crossing the streems and thats bad)
[08:30] <word> I have a GeForce 6800 and the newest..not the second newest..nvidia-glx package causes the bottom half inch of my screen to appear like a tv does when the channel is fuzzy. :-/
[08:30] <word> But only when an application with a white background is in full screen
[08:30] <unix_infidel> do i need to port forward to for bit torrent?
[08:30] <zardoz> unix_infidel: yes
[08:30] <unix_infidel> zardoz: which ports?
[08:31] <word> unix_infidel: I believe you can choose which port for bit torrent to use..at least in Azureus (another bit torrent client) you can.
[08:31] <zardoz> I thought you might ask :P sec I will look...
[08:31] <unix_infidel> word: i'm not using azureus.
[08:31] <wizpig64> basically what im asking is if i can assign my windows and data partitions to be readable by linux. in the install screen, it asks me where i would like it assigned to (/home, /media, /) and then asks me if i want to reformat
[08:31] <unix_infidel> i'm using the plain 'ole python bt client.
[08:31] <word> unix_infidel: That's simple functionality if the client your using doesn't have it maybe you should use azureus
[08:31] <kosh> don't reformat
[08:31] <wizpig64> im assuming that if i assign them to media, and dont check reformat, ill be ok
[08:31] <kosh> that would be VERY VERY bad
[08:32] <wizpig64> lol i know
[08:32] <zardoz> 6881-6999
[08:32] <kosh> that is probably right, and if it does not work out you can restore from backups
[08:32] <wizpig64> yea
[08:32] <unix_infidel> word: i could care less whatever port it uses...or if i have to forward it.
[08:32] <wizpig64> i should get on that but thats like 450 gigs to backup o.O
[08:33] <kosh> heh our customers don'
[08:33] <kosh> don't even have that much in their databases
[08:33] <wizpig64> lol
[08:33] <kosh> even the larger custoemrs that have sites with 10-40K pages on it with full product catalogs, lots of information, internal stuff etc are less then 4G each
[08:35] <wizpig64> i keep all my tv shows, music, other downloads on my 300 gig drive, which is the one im putting kubuntu on. my 160 drive has my windows install (which is unreplacable, thanks to dell) and games. so if i loose either one, im screwed
[08:35] <zardoz> crap amaroK is cripple playing mp3's?
[08:35] <kosh> by default ubuntu/kubuntu won't play mp3s because of patent issues
[08:35] <johnflux> wizpig64: raid
[08:35] <kosh> however there are modules you can install which will allow them to play
[08:35] <johnflux> wizpig64: you should try to get another hard disk and raid them
[08:36] <zardoz> kosh: hehe just like Red Hat and fordoa
[08:36] <word> by buying windows you buy the rights to play mp3's etc. so theoratically unless they specifically say you can only use that license for windows...you can use them on linux too....
[08:36] <zardoz> kosh: you know what ones right off hand?
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> zardoz, have you installed libmad0 ?
[08:37] <zardoz> think so let me look
[08:37] <KaiserSuse> ok... gotta go now... bye
[08:37] <kosh> zardoz: off hand I don't remember
[08:37] <zardoz> |lostbyte|: nope
[08:38] <|lostbyte|> zardoz, install it.
[08:38] <kosh> zardoz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:39] <zardoz> ah nice one kosh
[08:39] <kosh> zardoz: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[08:39] <kosh> that should work for amarok
[08:39] <|lostbyte|> yup..
[08:40] <wizpig64> yay! Topic: README: Installation and Boot Guide
[08:40] <wizpig64> i <3 forums
[08:42] <arso> |lostbyte|:  hey buddy ;)
[08:42] <|lostbyte|> arso, hi..
[08:43] <|lostbyte|> arso, decided to learn linux duing summer vication.. :P
[08:46] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:49] <zardoz> lol dam it bombs out...
[08:49] <Ramius> hey can't join my usual channel
[09:05] <jerry> hi
[09:05] <jerry> I have a question
[09:06] <jerry> I guess nobodys there
[09:10] <crazy_penguin> good day all! :)
[09:11] <zardoz> man this is going to be a bitch it looks like :/
[09:31] <iNiku> jerry: just ask your question, if someone knows they will reply
[09:32] <mundial> hi
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> mundial, hi
[09:33] <mundial> how can i install nvidia drivers on kubuntu?
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> mundial, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:33] <mundial> the file that i download from nvidia site is .run
[09:34] <mundial> it's give me a message to close x before continue
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> mundial, nvidia-glx is ver 8762
[09:34] <|lostbyte|> so dont worry..
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> mundial, you dont need the run..
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> mundial, as for that you'll also need kernel source ..
[09:36] <mundial> where can i find the nvidia-glx?
[09:37] <|lostbyte|> mundial, type in konsole [09:37] <|lostbyte|> mundial, are you new to linux ?
[09:38] <mundial> yes
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> mundial, how many days ?
[09:38] <mundial> one month
[09:38] <mundial> :)
[09:38] <|lostbyte|> mundial, ok :)
[09:42] <ze4502us> hi everyone
[09:42] <wizpig64> wassup
[09:42] <|lostbyte|> hey :)
[09:42] <ze4502us> does amaraok have the ability to access itunes shares?
[09:43] <jerry> hi
[09:43] <wizpig64> hey jerry
[09:44] <wizpig64> ask your question o.O
[09:44] <jerry> I did
[09:44] <jerry> I just don't know what's wrong
[09:44] <wizpig64> mustve missed it
[09:44] <jerry> Do you know about KMC?
[09:44] <ze4502us> also how do i prevent my session from being saved each time i log out of kde?
[09:44] <jerry> kmc.sourceforge.net
[09:44] <wizpig64> no :(
[09:45] <|lostbyte|> ze4502us, it can access.. but there are some steps..
[09:45] <ze4502us> uh huh
[09:45] <jerry> Cause I wanted to get something that would let me connect to a telnet BBS and when something like "Global: and a person message" came up on a line that it be parced in a different window. Also auto reconnect on disconnect
[09:46] <_uwe> hi
[09:46] <|lostbyte|> ze4502us, for the second you can disable it from kde_components > session manager
[09:47] <iNiku> ze4502us: system settings -> kde components -> session manager
[09:47] <|lostbyte|> jerry, wow ! bbs still exsists..
[09:47] <iNiku> ah, too late
[09:47] <|lostbyte|> :P
[09:47] <ze4502us> |lostbyte|: i'll do that for session manager
[09:47] <jerry> well they have muds
[09:48] <jerry> and I have a program called megamud for windows (cost $45 and there's no linux support)
[09:49] <|lostbyte|> ze4502us, i have
[09:49] <wizpig64> blegh, its 1am
[09:49] <wizpig64> night :)
[10:01] <ze4502u1> hello again
[10:02] <ze4502u1> |lostbyte|: could you please elaborate on how to get amarok to access itunes shares
[10:03] <mundial> known anyone where can i download easy kubuntu?
[10:04] <ze4502u1> mundial: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[10:04] <martinjh99> Morning all - What option do I need in fstab to not mount at boot???
[10:04] <crimsun> "noauto"
[10:04] <martinjh99> Ah Thanks!
[10:04] <crimsun> mundial: check the easyubuntu Web site
[10:07] <martinjh99> Another question - When I click on a Network share icon on my desktop I get an error about root wanting to mount it.  How can I change it to make it so that I can mount it not root?
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> by adding dev or users.. am not sure..
[10:08] <crimsun> martinjh99: you need the user
[10:08] <crimsun> option
[10:08] <crimsun> see fstab(5)
[10:08] <crimsun> mount(8), too
[10:09] <martinjh99> Ah OK - How do I read man pages in konq??
[10:09] <martinjh99> Never mind
[10:11] <martinjh99> OK - Now got a message about suid root smbmnt...
[10:14] <martinjh99> how do I make a file suid root then..?
[10:15] <|lostbyte|> huh ?
[10:16] <|lostbyte|> martinjh99, you camt.. they are programs that set you id.
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> opps..
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> sorry
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> miss read..
[10:17] <martinjh99> :)
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> martinjh99, chown root <file>
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> sudo before that..
[10:18] <RobNyc> whats better easyubuntu or automatix?
[10:18] <martinjh99> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8488 2006-05-17 11:05 /usr/bin/smbmnt
[10:19] <Lynoure> !automatix
[10:19] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[10:19] <crimsun> RobNyc: your call, though many people recommend the former
[10:19] <pinucset> RobNyc I red easyubuntu
[10:19] <pinucset> read
[10:19] <Lynoure> RobNyc: But I have never tried automatix myself. EasyUbuntu worked for me, though
[10:20] <RobNyc> i been using automatix
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> !bumps
[10:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about bumps
[10:20] <martinjh99> Actually I'm not too bothered...  I can see them from the smb:/ url...
[10:20] <martinjh99> Laters all
[10:21] <Lynoure> RobNyc: if you are already happy with it, why as which is better?
[10:21] <Lynoure> s/as/ask
[10:21] <RobNyc> i never tried easyubuntu
[10:23] <narg> make install on kdevelop source officially takes a crazy amount of time; I've seen other apps compile in the time it takes to install. (Its still installing!)
[10:24] <narg> Woot, it finished ;) Night.
[10:26] <sp__> any lyx users
[10:35] <|lostbyte|> sp__, what do you use lyx for ?
[10:37] <sp__> lyx is a WYSIWYM document processor- use for writing reports
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> sp__, cant the same be replicated in OO using mail merge ?
[10:38] <|lostbyte|> and micros..
[10:39] <sp__> but wht about citations? Can OO handle bibtex?
[10:44] <|lostbyte|> sp__, i dought ! but i belive its being implemented right now..
[10:44] <D4m4ge> hi all
[10:44] <sp__> Lostbyte, Ya i do know they are trying to get it done.
[10:45] <sp__> but you can use something like jabref and lyx
[10:45] <sp__> and works similar to endnote and MSword
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> k.. will have a look..
[10:46] <sp__> but its not prefects......thats where the problem is...am trying to figure it out
[10:59] <gianluca> hi everyone
[10:59] <gianluca> I have a question
[11:00] <gianluca> how can I make Konqueror open automatically "maximized"?
[11:01] <D4m4ge> gianluca
[11:01] <D4m4ge> open konq
[11:01] <D4m4ge> go to something like "save konquror profile" in the menu bar
[11:01] <D4m4ge> (sorry, my konq is not in english)
[11:02] <gianluca> my konq is italian! i try
[11:03] <D4m4ge> there is a checkbox "remember the size of the window"
[11:03] <D4m4ge> mine is in french :/
[11:04] <gianluca> a marce pas! I tried but I have to "choose" the profile manually and after the web page is opened
[11:04] <gianluca> pardon, marche
[11:05] <Firelight> gianluca: i have a idea (Sorry for my bad English, I'm a young French :) )
[11:06] <gianluca> let's listen
[11:06] <Firelight> Execute kcontrol
[11:06] <gianluca> done
[11:07] <Firelight> Go to "Apparence and theme" and "Decorated of window"
[11:07] <Firelight> Euh, non, sorry :o)
[11:08] <Firelight> Desktop -> Comportement of windows
[11:08] <D4m4ge> gianluca ok ;)
[11:08] <D4m4ge> Firelight windows decoration
[11:08] <D4m4ge> window*
[11:09] <Firelight> Yes D4m4ge :o)
[11:09] <gianluca> i went in -> Desktop->Window behaviour
[11:09] <D4m4ge> spece de frenchy vas :p
[11:10] <gianluca> so?
[11:10] <Firelight> Click on New, complet this window (Click on Detect, on click on KOnqueror)
[11:10] <D4m4ge> but gianluca said it works that way, why change?
[11:11] <gianluca> no, it doesn't work
[11:12] <Firelight> There isn't a buttom new? Go to Parameters specific to the window, perhaps...
[11:12] <gianluca> yes
[11:12] <gianluca> I "detect" a konq window
[11:13] <Firelight> Okay, go to Geometry
[11:13] <gianluca> and i set in "geometry" orizantal maximization and vertical maximization at "apply at the beginning. is it right?
[11:14] <Firelight> Yes ^^
[11:14] <gianluca> ops. it doesn't work yet. maybe I forgot something...
[11:16] <Firelight> In Geometry, choice Force in orizantal maximization and vertical maximization no?
[11:16] <gianluca> I got ir
[11:16] <gianluca> -it
[11:16] <gianluca> but i did a different way
[11:16] <gianluca> in the Titlebar of the konq window
[11:17] <gianluca> I selected Advanced->Special application setting
[11:18] <gianluca> that I selected Orizontal max: remember and Vertival max: remember
[11:19] <gianluca> It now remember the position i left the window last time i closed it
[11:19] <gianluca> it work, but WHY DON'T MAKE THIS THE _DEFAULT_ BEHAVIOR?
[11:19] <Firelight> I don't know :S
[11:19] <gianluca> THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HELP
[11:20] <tsdgeos> gianluca: come one
[11:20] <tsdgeos> do you need to shout?
[11:20] <tsdgeos> what's the problem?
[11:20] <gianluca> SHOUT? what do you mean?
[11:20] <tsdgeos> caps is shouting
[11:21] <gianluca> excuse me, but my declaration in uppercase because it is a proposal
[11:22] <tsdgeos> now can i know what your problem is?
[11:23] <gianluca> for sure. I needed to open konqueror the way I left it the last time I used it, that vertically and orizontally maximized
[11:23] <tsdgeos> lol
[11:23] <gianluca> but this work is not that intuitive
[11:23] <tsdgeos> that's your problem?
[11:23] <tsdgeos> settings -> save view profile
[11:23] <gianluca> also other applications. I think this is a good practice
[11:24] <tsdgeos> and check the save the size of the window
[11:24] <tsdgeos> ah
[11:24] <tsdgeos> last time
[11:24] <gianluca> it doesn't work
[11:24] <tsdgeos> each time
[11:24] <tsdgeos> ok
[11:24] <gianluca> that way you have to choose the profile _after_ you open a window
[11:24] <tsdgeos> so
[11:24] <tsdgeos> what you want is
[11:24] <Firelight> I have a solution
[11:25] <gianluca> this doesn't become the _default_ behaviour
[11:25] <Firelight> (I tried it)
[11:25] <tsdgeos> right click on icon of the window
[11:25] <tsdgeos> advanced settings
[11:25] <tsdgeos> and make it remember the size
[11:25] <gianluca> yes, this way is _the_ solution I found
[11:26] <tsdgeos> then?
[11:26] <gianluca> but dont'y you think that making this beheviour the default one would ease a user experience?
[11:26] <tsdgeos> file a bug report
[11:26] <tsdgeos> do not bitch about it in a channel noone has the power to change it
[11:26] <gianluca> it is not a bug report, maybe a feature request..
[11:27] <gianluca> i'm not "bitching about"
[11:27] <gianluca> I asked a solution, I found it and I expressed a simple opinion
[11:28] <gianluca> but maybe you came too later
[11:28] <gianluca> so you just saw my "desperate shout" :-)
[11:34] <korgano> hi there
[11:35] <korgano> can anyone tell me how to mount a smb-drive in dapper, since i am not able to apt-get install smbfs?
[11:36] <tsdgeos> why not?
[11:36] <korgano> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
[11:36] <korgano>   smbfs: Depends: samba-common (= 3.0.14a-6ubuntu1) but 3.0.22-1ubuntu1 is to be installed
[11:39] <Healot> !bob the builder
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about bob the builder
[11:40] <tsdgeos> korgano: maybe samba 3.0.22 already includes smbfs?
[11:41] <uwe_> hallo
[11:45] <korgano> tsdgeos: if I try to mount using "-tsmbfs" I get a "wrong fs type ..."-error
[11:45] <tsdgeos> korgano: you mounting from a windows server?
[11:45] <haffe> How much of a pain is it to get linpopup to send messages to a windows machine?
[11:45] <jc-denton> how can i remove/reset the konqueror preferences
[11:45] <korgano> nope, mounting from another linux machine
[11:46] <tsdgeos> korgano: ah
[11:46] <tsdgeos> jc-denton: look for files under .kde/share/config
[11:48] <jc-denton> humm
[11:48] <korgano> jc-denton: ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc & ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/*
[11:48] <korgano> this is, where the config-files are located
[11:48] <uniq> jc-denton: delete  ~/.kde/share/config/konq* and ~/.kde/share/apps/konq*
[11:49] <uniq> konquerorrc and konqueror/ will leave out some of the view options.
[11:50] <jc-denton> i have the strange problem that i don't get a preview of jpg,png files in konqueror
[11:50] <uniq> konqiconview, konqlistview, and konqsidebartng
[11:50] <jc-denton> and also no other icons
[11:50] <jc-denton> when i when i click on it i'm asked which apps should be uses to open them
[11:50] <jc-denton> also i cannot set them as wallpaper
[11:50] <jc-denton> so i tought just remove preferences would work since the default settings should work
[11:51] <uniq> give it a try, but backup your bookmarks if you have anything important there.
[11:52] <uniq> then from konsole: 'rm -rf ~/.kde/share/config/konq*;rm -rf ~/.kde/share/apps/konq*'
[11:52] <windshear> hi
[11:52] <windshear> i have a problem with my wlan
[11:52] <jc-denton> humm
[11:53] <jc-denton> and it last.fm does still not work with amarok
[11:53] <windshear> after i updated my sytem + kernel it does not work any more
[11:53] <SkrotFFS> wasn't last.fm-support added a couple of days ago?
[11:53] <windshear> when i load the backup kernel it works
[11:54] <jc-denton> hrmmm
[11:54] <jc-denton> did not work :(
[11:54] <windshear> it is a restricted module that is necessary to make it work
[11:54] <windshear> how can i select what modules get loaded during boot
[11:57] <steveire> hey
[11:57] <indieross> hello i just messed up my repositories by adding a bad link and now when i try to run adept it wont run
[11:57] <indieross> pls help
[11:57] <steveire> fix your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:57] <jc-denton> konqueror: WARNING: Pixmap not found for mimetype application/x-crossover-jpg
[11:58] <indieross> i tried to but it wont let me rewrite it
[11:58] <steveire> inde /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:58] <steveire> sorry
[11:58] <indieross> what should i do
[11:58] <steveire> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:59] <indieross> thank you thank you
[11:59] <indieross> i just switched to kubuntu today
[11:59] <indieross> im still learning
[12:00] <steveire> You'll pick it up quite soon.
[12:00] <steveire> I as able to do mostly everything of what I wanted to after about a month.
[12:00] <indieross> cool
[12:00] <steveire> This channel is good for learning. People ask the same stuff all the time. It just goes in
[12:00] <indieross> i think im really getting the hang of it thou
[12:01] <indieross> ya this is like the 5th time today ive asked this channel for help
[12:01] <NKjoep> evo
[12:01] <indieross> everyone here is really chill
[12:03] <jc-denton> strange
[12:03] <jc-denton> it does not seem to be a problem with the kde config
[12:03] <jc-denton> cos if i do
[12:03] <jc-denton> mv .kde /tmp; konqueror
[12:03] <jc-denton> then i hav the samee problem
[12:03] <uniq> maybe a problem with your icon theme?
[12:04] <jc-denton> i have the default from kubuntu
[12:04] <jc-denton> so i don't think so
[12:04] <indieross> does anyone know a repository where i can get either songbird or banshee
[12:06] <Healot> !find banshee
[12:06] <ubotu> Found: banshee, banshee-daap
[12:06] <Healot> !info banshee
[12:06] <ubotu> banshee: Audio Management and Playback application. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.10-0ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 870 kB, installed size 2744 kB
[12:06] <jc-denton> humm
[12:06] <jc-denton> http://www.kde-forum.org/post/55542/lastpost.html#post55542
[12:06] <Healot> indieross: next time, apt-cache search <search keyword>
[12:06] <indieross> will that work on kubuntu
[12:06] <jc-denton> this seems to be the same problem
[12:06] <Healot> indieross: it's an ubuntu package
[12:06] <jc-denton> but it's not fixed here
[12:06] <indieross> sorry im really new at this
[12:07] <jc-denton> i'm afk
[12:07] <Healot> so it will work in Fedora Core I guess
[12:10] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> ok, got some interesting info here.
[12:11] <Healot> !pot
[12:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about pot
[12:13] <ph4t-ph4nt0m> so, i re-rolled Kubuntu on my main machine because the network interface card wouldn't work anymore.  so after reinstalling (which it never prompted me to set up my network card) it comes up and i'm able to connect to the net.  now it's funny cause i do ifconfig and all i got is eth0 and lo.  no eth1 (my where my nic is suuposed to be) or wlan or eth2 (where my wireless nic is supposed to be if it detected it).  But lo and behold, i am accessing the ne
[12:13] <indieross> wheres some pot
[12:13] <indieross> oh its right here
[12:14] <Healot> what do you call it, pot, vase, china?
[12:14] <indieross> marijuana
[12:14] <indieross> what do you call it
[12:15] <Healot> i mean that thing... not the recreational drug
[12:15] <indieross> oh then i call it a vase
[12:16] <indieross> just a fancier word i guess
[12:16] <Healot> when do you call it a china?
[12:16] <Healot> I do not have any idea where the word "china" came from
[12:17] <indieross> certain ceramics origionated in china
[12:17] <word> Healot: It's in a history book I read a couple years ago look it up on wikipedia
[12:17] <Healot> wiki, thanks
[12:17] <word> yah indieross that's part of it...
[12:17] <indieross> and the word kept
[12:28] <Cydonia> Hi, I want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help? please, pretty please? :P
[12:29] <Healot> I am not familiar with Linux P2PTP
[12:30] <Healot> until this day?
[12:30] <Healot> or L2TP... well with Linux...
[12:30] <Healot> but have you read Xen documentation?
[12:30] <Cydonia> do you know anything about setting up 'tun0' interfaces?
[12:30] <Cydonia> yup
[12:31] <Healot> yeah the first tp interface for linux
[12:31] <Cydonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuBreezy
[12:31] <Healot> never done that before
[12:31] <Cydonia> I've done all that, changed a bit for dapper
[12:31] <Healot> Cydonia: i guess you can follow that on dapper even
[12:32] <Healot> until which part that keep you back?
[12:32] <Cydonia> now i'm just stumped on actually getting a tunnel setup
[12:32] <Cydonia> to shunt all tcp/ip through it
[12:33] <kiba> hola - hello
[12:33] <Healot> hola...
[12:33] <Cydonia> I'm completely lost :(
[12:33] <kiba> hola :)
[12:33] <kiba> tengo un problema
[12:33] <Healot> Cydonia: with linux tp, i am lost too
[12:33] <kiba> acabo de instalar kubuntu -ive installed kubuntu now
[12:34] <Healot> okay... what's seems to be the probleme now?
[12:34] <kiba> y no se como instalar los drivers de nvidia - and i dont know how to install the nvidia drivers
[12:34] <Healot> !ati
[12:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:34] <Healot> follow the link obut gave you... kiba, come back if you encounter muy problemas
[12:35] <Cydonia> !xen
[12:35] <ubotu> xen is a a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. It can be found at http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/Research/SRG/netos/xen/
[12:35] <Cydonia> !tunneling
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about tunneling
[12:35] <Cydonia> aww
[12:35] <Healot> !tunnel
[12:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about tunnel
[12:35] <Healot> !find tunnel
[12:35] <ubotu> Found: 6tunnel, carpaltunnel, httptunnel, ptunnel, stunnel (and 4 others)
[12:36] <Cydonia> !tun0
[12:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tun0
[12:36] <Cydonia> !find tun0
[12:36] <ubotu> No packages matching 'tun0' could be found
[12:36] <Healot> Cydonia: what tunnelling app are you using btw?
[12:36] <Cydonia> !stunnel
[12:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about stunnel
[12:36] <Healot> !info stunnel
[12:36] <ubotu> stunnel: Universal SSL tunnel for network daemons. In repository universe, is optional. Version 2:3.26-7ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 128 kB, installed size 396 kB
[12:37] <Cydonia> the linux kernel
[12:37] <Arschmade> hallo ein deutscher da der mir erklren kann wo ich java fr kubuntu herbekomme...? weil unter apt find ich nix
[12:37] <Cydonia> :P
[12:37] <Healot> !java
[12:37] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[12:37] <Healot> follow that link, Arschmade
[12:37] <Arschmade> thx
[12:37] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jre
[12:37] <ubotu> sun-java5-jre: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 7169 kB, installed size 15768 kB
[12:38] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jde
[12:38] <ubotu> Package sun-java5-jde does not exist in dapper
[12:38] <Healot> !info sun-java5-jdk
[12:38] <ubotu> sun-java5-jdk: Sun Java(TM) Development Kit (JDK) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 4868 kB, installed size 11548 kB
[12:38] <Arschmade> E: Konnte Paket sun-java5-jre nicht finden
[12:38] <Arschmade> could not find the package
[12:38] <Arschmade> ^^
[12:39] <Healot> !multiverse
[12:39] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[12:39] <Healot> enable the multiverse and universe sections of "dapper"  repos first, Arschmade, once again follow the other link
[12:40] <Arschmade> ok
[12:40] <Healot> Arschmade: use adept... for easy does it
[12:40] <jc-denton> humm
[12:43] <Healot> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse >> you should have something like this in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, Arschmade
[12:43] <Arschmade> i got this one now what should i do with it ? >>> jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:44] <Healot> Arschmade: run it... cd to the directory where that file resides, type ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:45] <slow-motion> hallo
[12:46] <Arschmade> bash: ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin: Permission denied
[12:46] <SkrotFFS> chmod a+x jre....
[12:47] <Healot> chmod +x jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin && ./jre-1_5_0_07-linux-i586.bin
[12:48] <Arschmade> it works
[12:48] <Arschmade> big thx
[12:49] <Arschmade> im new in kubuntu
[12:50] <rostok> hi
[12:51] <Arschmade> hmmm
[12:51] <Arschmade> frostwire dont start
[12:52] <cpk> !llibgtk
[12:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about llibgtk
[12:52] <cpk> !info libgtk
[12:52] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[12:52] <Arschmade> java is installed but it dont start either
[12:52] <Cavallo> how should I install karambo on kubuntu ? from source ? or there ia already any package ?
[12:52] <Cydonia> !firestarter
[12:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed with iptables (in the command line), firestarter (gui, can also setup connection sharing) or shorewall (web interface)
[12:52] <Cydonia> !info iptables
[12:52] <ubotu> iptables: Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools. In repository main, is standard. Version 1.3.3-2ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 309 kB, installed size 972 kB
[12:56] <Healot> !info firestarter
[12:56] <ubotu> firestarter: gtk program for managing and observing your firewall. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0.3-1.1ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 381 kB, installed size 1900 kB
[12:57] <cpk> !info gtk
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> !info gtk+
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk+ does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> !info gtk2
[12:57] <ubotu> Package gtk2 does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <afm\colossus> lol
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk2-common
[12:57] <ubotu> Package libgtk2-common does not exist in dapper
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk2.0-common
[12:57] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-common: Common files for the GTK+ graphical user interface library. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.8.18-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 2 kB, installed size 12332 kB
[12:57] <cpk> haha
[12:57] <Healot> !info libgtk1.2-common
[12:57] <ubotu> libgtk1.2-common: Common files for the GTK+ library. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 940 kB
[12:57] <Healot> looking for gtk development header?
[12:58] <cpk> trying to help a friend, was trying to figure out the package name for synaptic
[12:58] <Cydonia> !uml
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about uml
[12:58] <Cydonia> !UML
[12:58] <Healot> !info pmi
[12:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about UML
[12:58] <ubotu> Package pmi does not exist in dapper
[12:58] <|lostbyte|> !info info
[12:58] <Healot> sudo pmi action hibernate
[12:58] <ubotu> info: Standalone GNU Info documentation browser. In repository main, is standard. Version 4.8-4 (dapper), package size 209 kB, installed size 384 kB
[12:58] <SkrotFFS> Cydonia: What are your looking for?
[12:59] <Healot> basically I think he is looking for a tunneling program?
[12:59] <Healot> and I am not sure... about that
[12:59] <SkrotFFS> oh. I was thinking UML as in Unified Modeling Language =)
[12:59] <Healot> ubuntu developer. cool
[01:00] <Cydonia> are there any server-type programs that will listen on 192.168.1.3 for packets coming from 192.168.1.2, and then forward them on to my router (192.168.1.1), -> internet?
[01:00] <Cydonia> uml = user mode linux
[01:00] <Cydonia> or xen
[01:01] <Cydonia> 192.168.1.3 would be the uml'ed kernel
[01:01] <Cydonia> :)
[01:04] <acesuares> Cydonia: redirect
[01:04] <acesuares> Don't know if it still exists but it used to be a standard Debian package.
[01:04] <acesuares> or iptables.
[01:04] <Cydonia> !search redirect
[01:04] <ubotu> Found nothing
[01:07] <indieross> i just downloaded xmms and im wondering how to install it its a tag.gz file
[01:07] <Bazzi> long story short: you don't
[01:07] <cpk> lol
[01:07] <Bazzi> use ubuntus xmms version
[01:07] <indieross> where can i find thatr
[01:07] <Bazzi> in adept / with aptitude
[01:08] <indieross> ok im a noob with aptitude?
[01:08] <indieross> what repository do i use
[01:09] <Bazzi> !universe
[01:09] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:10] <indieross> are all of these available to kubuntu
[01:10] <Bazzi> sure
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> thernet connection does not work properly on
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> linux
[01:11] <indieross> where can i find a list of repositories with media codecs
[01:11] <AncientNewbie> dunno why
[01:11] <indieross> or media pplayers
[01:12] <cpk> mplayer
[01:12] <cpk> i think mplayer has all the codecs you need at their site?
[01:12] <cpk> !mplayer
[01:12] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Install mplayer fonts. Codecs: see !codecs
[01:12] <Bazzi> indieross:
[01:13] <Bazzi> !restrictedformats
[01:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <cpk> !codecs
[01:13] <cpk> ...
[01:13] <cpk> !codecs
[01:13] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:13] <indieross> !codecs
[01:13] <indieross> ahh nm
[01:14] <cpk> !info codecs
[01:14] <ubotu> Package codecs does not exist in dapper
[01:14] <indieross> ok now that i have the package how do i go about installing it
[01:15] <indieross> its a tar.bx2
[01:15] <indieross> bz2*
[01:18] <cpk> tar -xvjf
[01:18] <hugelmopf> indieross: do you mean a tar.bz2 of mplayer? you shouldn't install the package from a tar.bz2 that you downloaded, but use adept or aptitude to install ubuntu's prepackaged version of it.
[01:18] <r0xz> indiecross: unpack it (command-line or ark), and read the INSTALL or README file. But going apt-get is much easier, i would recommend that
[01:19] <indieross> i couldnt find it on adept
[01:19] <afm\colossus> use the force of your package management software
[01:19] <raphink> indieross: are you sure you activated all the repositories?
[01:19] <raphink> indieross: what package is that?
[01:19] <indieross> some of them didnt work and wouldnt update
[01:21] <raphink> indieross: what package is missing for you?
[01:21] <indieross> mplayer
[01:21] <raphink> indieross: mplayer is in multiverse
[01:22] <raphink> indieross: just activate the multiverse repository and you'll have it
[01:22] <raphink> !repositories
[01:22] <indieross> whats the full name for multiverse
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:22] <cpk> !multiverse
[01:23] <cpk> !info multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> Package multiverse does not exist in dapper
[01:23] <cpk> !multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[01:23] <D4m4ge> !?
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about ?
[01:23] <raphink> indieross: read what ubotu said
[01:23] <D4m4ge> ooops sorry ubotu
[01:23] <raphink> !$
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about $
[01:23] <raphink> hehe
[01:23] <D4m4ge> !love
[01:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about love
[01:24] <raphink> don't understand bash, ubotu ?
[01:24] <raphink> that's too bad
[01:24] <raphink> !life
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about life
[01:24] <D4m4ge> laughing out loud
[01:24] <raphink> no wonder, if you stay all the time in here
[01:24] <D4m4ge> how about friends?
[01:24] <raphink> !myself
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about myself
[01:24] <afm\colossus> !making love. :(
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about making love. :(
[01:24] <raphink> looooooooooooool
[01:24] <D4m4ge> poor bot
[01:24] <afm\colossus> :< poor ubotu
[01:24] <indieross> haha
[01:25] <D4m4ge> it's cruel
[01:25] <raphink> rofl
[01:25] <D4m4ge> free Uberriffic !
[01:25] <D4m4ge> free ubotu ! *
[01:25] <raphink> !people making fun of me :s
[01:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about people making fun of me :s
[01:26] <cpk> bullies
[01:26] <cpk> !standing up for myself
[01:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about standing up for myself
[01:26] <raphink> yes, no wonder
[01:26] <raphink> !jpatrick coming into the room
[01:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about jpatrick coming into the room
[01:27] <jpatrick> ubotu: well thou art blind
[01:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about well thou art blind
[01:27] <raphink> jpatrick: that's my conclusion, too
[01:28] <jpatrick> raphink: they say great minds think alike
[01:28] <raphink> lol
[01:28] <raphink> do not take hasty conclusions either, young padawan
[01:28] <raphink> :)
[01:28] <jpatrick> yes master
[01:29] <raphink> :)
[01:29] <raphink> !the dark side of the force
[01:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about the dark side of the force
[01:29] <raphink> take example on ubotu
[01:30] <jpatrick> !the dark side of the source
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about the dark side of the source
[01:30] <raphink> hehe
[01:30] <raphink> that's good, too
[01:30] <cpk> !microsoft
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about microsoft
[01:30] <cpk> and keep it that way
[01:30] <raphink> that's good
[01:31] <raphink> !installing windows
[01:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about installing windows
[01:31] <raphink> now I love this bot
[01:31] <raphink> :)
[01:31] <jpatrick> @lart raphink
[01:31] <jpatrick> i prefer that^
[01:31] <raphink> no comment
[01:32] <raphink> think aboiut it twice when you need a sponsor for main :)
[01:32] <raphink> hehe :)
[01:32] <karlrhs> question about filesharing does anyone have a moment?
[01:32] <jpatrick> It was just an example of Ubugtu's  powers
[01:32] <raphink> karlrhs: I don't know about a moment of filesharing
[01:32] <raphink> moments are more likely to be of inertia iirc
[01:33] <raphink> anyway what's your problem karlrhs?
[01:33] <cpk> @lart jpatrick
[01:34] <raphink> karlrhs: feel free to ask your question whenever you get the chance
[01:34] <jpatrick> !ask
[01:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:34] <karlrhs> It seems when I go into system settings and then to fileshareing it asks for my main password
[01:34] <raphink> :)
[01:35] <karlrhs> then nothing ....... it will not let me type into any field
[01:35] <raphink> karlrhs: that seems reasonable
[01:35] <raphink> ah
[01:35] <raphink> karlrhs: using dapper?
[01:35] <karlrhs> yes
[01:35] <m_tadeu> hello
[01:35] <karlrhs> sorry if I am slow...
[01:35] <cpk> !hello
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about hello
[01:35] <m_tadeu> what's the command to change the dm?
[01:35] <cpk> ubotu: its a greeting
[01:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about its a greeting
[01:36] <jpatrick> poor bot..
[01:36] <raphink> karlrhs: after you enter your password, having clicked the administrator mode button, you should get a red line around the window
[01:36] <raphink> do you get that?
[01:37] <raphink> m_tadeu: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[01:37] <karlrhs> Yes I get the red line but none of the fields allow any imput
[01:37] <raphink> should do for example
[01:37] <m_tadeu> raphink: thx a lot :)
[01:37] <raphink> karlrhs: did you check the box at the top of the window?
[01:38] <raphink> to activate filesharing
[01:38] <karlrhs> It is checked but I did not check it.   It is shaded so that it can not be changed
[01:39] <cpk> i'm curious is there an easy gui for samba or something like samba?
[01:39] <raphink> karlrhs: are yo up-to-date ?
[01:39] <cpk> mainly to share with windows clients
[01:39] <karlrhs> Yes one moment while I check?
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: there's a small gui in systemsettings
[01:39] <raphink> not very powerful though
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: samba.conf is very easy to use though
[01:39] <raphink> cpk: or do you mean to browse samba shares ?
[01:40] <raphink> in that case : smb:/ in konqueror
[01:40] <cpk> back before my HD died i was trying to get samba to work but couldnt seem to get the computers to see each other or anything
[01:40] <cpk> so now i am waiting for my new hd and was just wondering
[01:40] <karlrhs> I am totally current with updates
[01:41] <steveire> Is it the first of june in LA yet?
[01:41] <cpk> yes
[01:41] <cpk> 4 40
[01:42] <steveire> Icool, thnaks
[01:42] <steveire> Just remembered a birthday
[01:42] <gupta> Hi all, check this out:
[01:42] <gupta> rrr=$(which $1)
[01:42] <gupta> cp -l $rrr ~/Desktop/
[01:42] <gupta> Desktop shortcut creator!! hehe
[01:43] <karlrhs> do I need to download any other config software?
[01:43] <cpk> also raphink i like kde alot more than gnome but am a very lazy man and would be bummed if the kde distro didnt share all the gnome packages?
[01:43] <cpk> i guess that was worded poorly but you get what i am saying?
[01:44] <raphink> cpk: not sure I understood
[01:44] <jpatrick> cpk: all you need about Microsoft: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Microsoft
[01:44] <raphink> karlrhs: I do not think so
[01:44] <raphink> karlrhs: did you install NFS or samba?
[01:45] <karlrhs> let me check.
[01:46] <cpk> thanks jpatrick, uncyclopedia is always good for a laugh
[01:46] <jpatrick> :)
[01:47] <cpk> does kbuntu and ubuntu share the same repositories or can you not get all the packages if you have kubuntu (excluding gnome packages)
[01:47] <jpatrick> cpk: yes
[01:47] <raphink> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same distro cpk
[01:47] <raphink> same repos, smae packages
[01:47] <raphink> same versions
[01:47] <raphink> same maintainers
[01:48] <jpatrick> same old boxes of pizza
[01:48] <raphink> yes, too
[01:48] <raphink> and bad jokes
[01:49] <karlrhs> nfs was not installed ... I am working on it now..... samba common was installed.
[01:49] <jpatrick> like how did Darth Vader know what Luke was getting for Xmas?
[01:49] <raphink> you'd need samba karlrhs,not only -common
[01:50] <cpk> k thanks
[01:50] <karlrhs> ok I am getting it.
[01:50] <karlrhs> thank so much for your time.
[01:52] <cpk> i dunno jpatrick how did he?
[01:52] <raphink> karlrhs: great :)
[01:52] <raphink> karlrhs: if you think the doc should be improved on this, please complete it on the wiki
[01:53] <jpatrick> cpk: he felt his presents
[01:53] <cpk> i actually laughed
[01:53] <cpk> slightly
[01:53] <jpatrick> cpk: you're supposed to go: "ROFL!!!11"
[01:54] <cpk> oh oops
[01:54] <karlrhs> Yes I will check out the wiki
[01:54] <cpk> ROFL
[01:54] <cpk> LMAO
[01:54] <raphink> thank you karlrhs
[01:54] <jpatrick> ;)
[01:55] <karlrhs> as far as nfs goes it says something about a kernal package?
[01:56] <cpk> I am excited to get my new HD i always have so much fun playing with linux even though I am a noob
[01:56] <karlrhs> I do have nfs common.
[02:00] <an> hi guys.how can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it
[02:00] <karlrhs> ok I have samba now.
[02:01] <an> hello?
[02:02] <an> how can i delate the kasbar? i dont like it
[02:02] <jpatrick> kicker?
[02:02] <an> no ,just kasbar
[02:03] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I restart alsa?
[02:03] <an> i added it from "add new panel" by accident
[02:03] <an> jpatrick ,do u know that?
[02:04] <raphink> Windows CE-ME-NT - Just Add Water!
[02:04] <raphink> looooooooooooooool
[02:04] <karlrhs> Ok that was my problem no samba installed.... now I need to know of a good kubuntu client?
[02:04] <jpatrick> an: right-click kicker -> remove panel
[02:04] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[02:04] <raphink> karlrhs: konqueror
[02:04] <raphink> karlrhs: in konqueror, type smb:/
[02:05] <raphink> konqueror is a good client for almost everything
[02:05] <jpatrick> expect tea making
[02:05] <an> jpatrick,no this item
[02:05] <jpatrick> where kteatime wins
[02:06] <an> jpatrick,i got it
[02:06] <an> thanku
[02:06] <an> :)
[02:06] <jpatrick> :D
[02:06] <|lostbyte|> :)
[02:07] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, with sudo that is.
[02:08] <tux> ||||||||| Am I the only one who realizes that  http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/   has been hacked?!?
[02:09] <jpatrick> raphink: I like the murder clippy on that page
[02:09] <raphink> tux: are you the only one to use windows games on linux?
[02:09] <raphink> ;)
[02:09] <tux> who
[02:09] <tux> not to
[02:09] <tux> and then useS
[02:09] <tux> not us
[02:10] <tux> use
[02:10] <|lostbyte|> raphink, same here..
[02:11] <|lostbyte|> and the million wine user's out there..
[02:11] <gupta> What to do when you encounter an app that has a newer version than the repos?
[02:12] <gupta> As in where should I make this info known? wiki?
[02:12] <jpatrick> http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:Ctrl-alt-del.jpg loool
[02:14] <hugelmopf> gupta: why do you want to make this information known?
[02:16] <gupta> So that the repo could be updated
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> gupta, usually done through.. http://revu.tauware.de/
[02:18] <Lynoure> gupta: probably they'll update things for edgy ayway. I don't know how it's done in ubuntu, in debian one would have files a wishlist level bug
[02:18] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can i compile something with gcc3 insted of gcc4?
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> gupta, you make your source package and upload it.
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> but its not good to order for a delay.. as its being done..
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman, huh ! changing the cc variable in a make file.
[02:19] <gupta> |lostbyte|:me ain't ordering, just informing incase they don't know
[02:20] <|lostbyte|> gupta, :P, they know.. but also got to see the other packages they are doing.. People who do packaing have very less time on their hands..
[02:21] <gupta> |lostbyte|: ok, package making it is then!! ;)
[02:21] <|lostbyte|> gupta, You either help as a bug teater or contribute by making the package..
[02:22] <|lostbyte|> gupta, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[02:23] <gupta> :up:
[02:26] <|lostbyte|> AFK..
[02:29] <gupta> Is it possible to upload stuff to non ftp stuff like turboupload from the command line?
[02:29] <gupta> I mean turboupload.com
[02:29] <afm\colossus> with severe kickass scripting skills and curl
[02:29] <afm\colossus> it surely is, yes
[02:30] <gupta> and has anybody has written some kickass stuff?
[02:30] <gupta> coz my 'scripts are all <5 lines
[02:30] <DjDarkman> how can I change the default automake version?
[02:31] <Lynoure> gupta: it's not the lenght, it's how well they work :)
[02:31] <gupta> Lynoure: Thanks
[02:31] <SeanTater> gupta: if you need a web browser at the cli, lynx should help, but if you want it done automatically, clear your week's schedule
[02:33] <Lynoure> gupta: :)
[02:42] <svizzero> anyone knows how to let gnuchess think fast??
[02:46] <BKaj> Howdy
[03:17] <wilfredH> how do I remove pcmcia modules on my desktop?
[03:20] <wilfredH> is it possible to remove the pcmcia stuff?
[03:28] <Cavallo> I want to connect to computer at work throught VPN. How should I do that ? ;/
[03:32] <h3sp4wn> Cavallo: Look into openswan (if its ipsec which most work vpn's are (or should be)
[03:35] <zardoz> do I need to restart the xserver after installing the mp3 suppoert for amarok?
[03:35] <Cavallo> no
[03:35] <zardoz> mmmm
[03:37] <AB3I> ok guys, I have an amazingly dumb question. I removed the home folder button from my task bar by accident. I cant figure out how to get it back. Is it hiding in the menus somewhere so I can just readd it? or do I have to modify the konqueror button somehow?
[03:39] <AB3I> hmmm
[03:39] <AB3I> quiet in here this morning
[03:39] <BKaj> right click on the panel/config panels then hidden, you should be able to restore it from there
[03:39] <AB3I> ah
[03:39] <AB3I> thanks bkaj, lemme try it
[03:40] <BKaj> I think that's the way i fixed mine
[03:40] <AB3I> hmm
[03:40] <AB3I> I think I actually removed the thing
[03:40] <AB3I> do me a favor?
[03:41] <afm\colossus> is there a way to tell the KDE Sound system to play back sounds via `play` (from the sox-package) instead of arts or the like?
[03:41] <AB3I> can you right click on your home button, click configure konqueror button
[03:41] <AB3I> and under the Application tab tell me what it says under Description and Command?
[03:42] <AB3I> I can just modify a konqueror button to do it
[03:46] <AB3I> anyone able to give me the info from the Home button on the taskbar? I need to know the Description, Command, and workpath is
[03:52] <BKaj> AB3I:  do you mean the K-Menu button or the Home folder ?
[03:52] <AB3I> the button on the task bar
[03:53] <AB3I> If I can get that info, I can just turn a regular konqueror web browser button into a home button
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> AB3I, konqueror /home/username
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> is the command
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> no work path, description is whatever you want
[03:55] <AB3I> ah
[03:55] <AB3I> thanks
[03:55] <__osh__> Has something changed in dapper? I can no longer use ctrl-tab to switch desktops. Is this by design or a bug?
[03:56] <AB3I> I've found a few wierd things like that osh
[03:56] <AB3I> like them removing the screen resolution thing under Configure Desktop
[03:56] <AB3I> which is just dumb
[03:57] <cpk> you should be able to assign your own hotkeys to switch desktops...
[03:57] <Tommy2k4> ctrl + F2 etc
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> and you can assign your own
[03:59] <Tommy2k4> kde desktop froze :( anyway to get it back without ctrl alt backspace
[04:00] <AB3I> bah, it that worked Tommy, I have my home button back
[04:04] <Pupeno> Hello.
[04:05] <Pupeno> I have one of these: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=12 can it be used to buil a Linux-based access point ?
[04:06] <AB3I> Pupeno, I think you'll need an actual router
[04:06] <Pupeno> AB3I: why ?
[04:06] <AB3I> those PCI adapters dont have the built in ability to handle connections to multiple computers
[04:06] <h3sp4wn> They do
[04:07] <AB3I> ? not the ones I've ever dealt with
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Atheros based - you could run hostapd
[04:07] <zardoz> AB3I: you mean like make a linux router box?
[04:07] <AB3I> ah, software based stuff?
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> Only in the same way all atheros runs however this is nothing to do with openwrt
[04:07] <h3sp4wn> (oops wrong channel)
[04:08] <AB3I> I was thinking native support. Install one of those on a windows box and there's no hope for using it as a router
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno: You could do it relatively easily
[04:09] <visik7> I got my CDs
[04:09] <visik7> cool
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> AB3I: I have a card (minipci) using similar chipeset - that my router uses (also running linux)
[04:10] <Pupeno> h3sp4wn: really ? with that particular board ? because then I'll cancel the purchase of the router. I'll build mine (which I want to do anyway to have a half-restricted public node)
[04:10] <AB3I> hmmm, I should do that
[04:10] <AB3I> this box begs to be a router
[04:10] <AB3I> though it would be a waste
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> Pupeno: Only problem is that the version of hostapd in universe is compiled against madwifi-ng whereas the version used by default in kubuntu is madwifi-old (and I have yet to find a way to force the kernel to use madwifi-ng)
[04:15] <Tommy2k4> when will OOo 2.03 be in the repositories
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: i doubt you will see it in dapper breezy or before versions of ubuntu
[04:16] <Tommy2k4> o
[04:16] <Tommy2k4> saving it for next version?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: too late to add it to a stable ubuntu
[04:17] <Tommy2k4> so we'll never be able to get it from apt-get  upgrade?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: dont know what version is gonna be in edgy yet too early
[04:17] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: thats something that cant be answered atm we have to wait and see where OOo makes it and what version it is first
[04:18] <Tommy2k4> k
[04:21] <nightwatch> how can I configure the "super-key" (window key) in my keyboard?
[04:22] <nightwatch> there's no option in kcontrol
[04:22] <gupta> nightwatch: You can try xbindkeys 7 xbindkeys-config
[04:22] <gupta> 7 == &
[04:22] <gupta> though it crashed for me.
[04:29] <nightwatch> :(
[04:29] <nightwatch> it is not working
[04:29] <nightwatch> no superkey working
[04:30] <gupta> :(
[04:30] <nightwatch> I did xbindkeys --defaults > ~/.xbindkeysrc
[04:31] <nightwatch> but I dont get my superkey working
[04:31] <nightwatch> didnot work
[04:32] <sotired> good morning all
[04:32] <driz> Nintendo DS lite
[04:33] <driz> YAY!!!
[04:33] <driz> I got it
[04:33] <driz> I did not know angelina jolie liked linux
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> driz: Any idea if the DS lite supports WPA ? (or is it still only WEP ?)
[04:33] <sotired> where does wine hide my fake c drive?
[04:34] <driz> I have not tried it online yet
[04:34] <driz> I donht even have a wireless router
[04:34] <driz> dont*
[04:34] <sotired> im using winefile....but ineed to copy a file from my hone folder to my C:\program files directory in wine'
[04:34] <Raven301> How do you change the permission of halt & reboot so you don't have to be super user??
[04:37] <omeow> Amarok can auto-size its collumns, can konqueror do this too?
[04:37] <sotired> wine anyone?
[04:38] <sotired> hey leejun
[04:38] <yanis> I  add a new dns server in kcontrol but it deletes it after some time/or reboot...
[04:40] <bojan> is all Adept Updater do is sudo apt-get updae, followed by sudeo apt-get upgrade?
[04:40] <bojan> sudeo apt-get update*
[04:40] <sotired> su su sudeo?
[04:40] <bojan> that was suppose to be sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <sotired> i knoe ;-p
[04:41] <bojan> sorry im a bad typer
[04:41] <sotired> know* , me too
[04:41] <bojan> heh
[04:42] <sotired> anyone know where wine hides the fake c drive?
[04:43] <raphink> sotired: in .wine
[04:43] <raphink> ;)
[04:43] <Bazzi> in /home/sotired/.wine/drive_c
[04:43] <sotired> does the . denote hidden?
[04:43] <syiron> hello. i have problem with samba. i got some error. it cannot start it. how to solve it ?
[04:45] <Hawkwind> sotired: Yes
[04:45] <sotired> thanks
[04:49] <bojan> from looking at forums, and looking at what it wants to install for me, it looks like Adept Updater does: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade.  Is this correct?
[04:50] <__osh__> !easyubunut
[04:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about easyubunut
[04:50] <__osh__> !easyubuntu
[04:50] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[04:50] <__osh__> Hmm, no link... :-/
[04:50] <raphink> bojan: Adept Updater does something of the kind, yes
[04:50] <raphink> it's a mit more complicate
[04:50] <kbrooks> __osh__: easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[04:51] <bojan> i was just wandering can it be accompliched what it does, using command line?
[04:51] <raphink> it actually gets the list of updates to do from apt-get upgrade, cancels the upgrade, and proposed to apt-get install the packages
[04:51] <__osh__> kbrooks: thanks
[04:51] <bojan> techinically, the 3 commands above, should upgarde your complete sysytem
[04:52] <raphink> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:52] <raphink> upgrades your whole system
[04:52] <drbrown> I have just upgraded from breezy to dapper, and now I get apt probs and I have no sound
[04:53] <raphink> are you sure the upgrade is complete drbrown?
[04:53] <bojan> what sound card u have?
[04:53] <driz> yes
[04:53] <driz> france brazil
[04:53] <drbrown> SBLive
[04:53] <bojan> ok
[04:53] <drbrown> Value I believe
[04:54] <bojan> try this
[04:54] <bojan> 1 sec
[04:54] <bojan> ill find the command that helped me
[04:54] <bojan> does everything look OK in the sound settings
[04:54] <drbrown> thx
[04:54] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:54] <bojan> like ur card is detected and everything, and all the volumes seem OK, but you just dont have any sound?
[04:54] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:54] <heinrich> how play argentina yesterday?
[04:55] <heinrich> played
[04:55] <driz> they lost
[04:55] <drbrown> exactly
[04:55] <iain> i cant get adept to work, help anyone
[04:55] <heinrich> was it just?
[04:55] <driz> shot out
[04:55] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:55] <bojan> this is the command that made my sound work: amixer set 'IEC958 Optical Raw' off && amixer set 'Front' on && amixer set 'Wave' 80%,80%,on,on
[04:55] <bojan> I had the same problem and I haev SB Live!
[04:56] <heinrich> i have read in the newspaper they were the better team
[04:56] <heinrich> but i doubt that
[04:56] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:56] <bojan> im not sure if anything should be changed for ur setup though
[04:56] <driz> !offtopic
[04:56] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:56] <bojan> i dont know what that IEC958 Optical Raw thing is
[04:56] <heinrich> ok sorry
[04:56] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:56] <driz> anyone who wants to talk soccer go to off topic
[04:57] <BKaj> I don't like the shootouts to break a tie game...that sucks
[04:57] <driz> y ai know
[04:57] <drbrown> the command is not found
[04:57] <iain> can any one help me
[04:57] <bojan> amixer isnt found?
[04:57] <iain> i can't get adept to work, help anyone
[04:57] <Lynoure> driz: what kind of not working you have?
[04:57] <BKaj> iain: is it listed in the k-menu?
[04:57] <iain> yes
[04:58] <driz> Lynoure: what?
[04:58] <drbrown> I have to fix the apt prob first I guess alsa has not been reinstalled yet, sorry I attempted to uninstall and reinstall alsa, but I am having apt probs
[04:58] <Lynoure> driz: oops, wrong person
[04:58] <Stiilyman> help!
[04:58] <drbrown> libperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:58] <bojan> oh yea u should install alsa stuff first i think
[04:58] <bojan> im not sure what the exact package(s) are
[04:59] <Lynoure> iain: Instead of being repetative, tell us how it behaves instead of working right
[04:59] <graft> hey does anyone know why katapult only recognizes some applications? for example i can't get it to recognize filelight...
[04:59] <Stiilyman> perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[04:59] <Stiilyman> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[04:59] <Stiilyman> Generating locales...
[04:59] <Stiilyman> can anyone help me plz?
[05:00] <overdrive> algun espaol?
[05:00] <Lynoure> !es
[05:00] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:00] <overdrive> ok gracias
[05:00] <iain> it won't load up
[05:00] <graft> Stiilyman: uh, some context?
[05:00] <drbrown> perl is completly broken because of this error
[05:00] <Lynoure> iain: do you get errors? If so, what?
[05:00] <iain> The APT Database could not be opened
[05:01] <drbrown> rror while loading shared libraries: libperl.so.5.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:01] <graft> drbrown: sudo apt-get install libperl5.8
[05:02] <Lynoure> iain: do you have another adept or apt running?
[05:02] <iain> I try to edit the  sources list but can't save
[05:03] <Lynoure> iain: you need to edit it as root (sudo or ksudo  depending on your editor)
[05:03] <iain> i've tryied that in pico and kate
[05:04] <Lynoure> iain: but simply looking at sources.list should not break your apt/adept
[05:04] <neoncode> How do I check what Xserver I have?
[05:05] <iain> a friend told me to change some of the texted
[05:05] <Lynoure> iain: in some cases doing    sudo debtags update   help adept to be able to read the package database
[05:06] <iain> what does sudo debtags update
[05:06] <Lynoure> iain: If their advice is worth taking, then they should also be willing to help you with related problems :)
[05:06] <iain> mean
[05:06] <Lynoure> iain: see   man debtags   for explanation
[05:06] <iain> true
[05:06] <graft> neoncode: try dpkg -L | grep xserver-xorg
[05:07] <drbrown> ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libexslt.so.0.8.12: Permission denied
[05:07] <drbrown> ldconfig: Cannot lstat /usr/lib/libtcl8.4.so.0: Permission denied
[05:07] <drbrown> I get a series of these when trying to install libperl5.8
[05:07] <graft> drbrown: are you using sudo?
[05:07] <Lynoure> iain: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=167676 might also have helpfulness for you
[05:08] <drbrown> apt is busted, and I am in a root console sudo sux -
[05:08] <graft> you're logged in as root and you're getting permission denied?
[05:08] <kbrooks> okay, all.
[05:09] <drbrown> I ran dpkg -i /varvar/cache/apt/libperl5.8_5.8.7-10ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[05:09] <kbrooks> we need someone to help us test easyubuntu on kubuntu
[05:09] <graft> drbrown: as root?
[05:09] <drbrown> yes I am logged in as root and getting permission denied
[05:09] <drbrown> yes
[05:09] <drbrown> very odd
[05:09] <graft> erm... hm. who does ldconfig run as?
[05:10] <drbrown> ls -l example ?---------  ? ?    ?           ?                ? /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[05:10] <drbrown> it appears there is no ownership on the files
[05:10] <graft> uh
[05:10] <graft> still
[05:11] <graft> can you chown them to root?
[05:11] <graft> is this on some funny-mounted partition?
[05:11] <drbrown> yes, and I did a chown root.root * /usr/lib/*
[05:12] <drbrown> and I get chown: cannot access `libtcl8.4.so.0': Permission denied
[05:12] <drbrown> no it is not some funny mounted partition
[05:12] <graft> can you delete it?
[05:13] <graft> i guess not
[05:13] <graft> if you have no permissions
[05:13] <graft> bizarre
[05:13] <sensei> chmod -R a+rwx /   ftw
[05:13] <graft> did you try mounting it with a livecd and manipulating it there?
[05:13] <graft> that is a TERRIBLE idea, sensei
[05:14] <kbrooks> does anyone here use easyubuntu on kubuntu and have experienced a measure of problems?
[05:14] <sensei> graft: Just fooling around.. just got here, have no idea what you're talking about
[05:14] <graft> um, drbrown has some file with, apparently, no owner and no permissions
[05:14] <graft> even root can't touch it
[05:15] <drbrown> I think I have a much bigger prog
[05:15] <sensei> So add permissions?
[05:15] <drbrown> I think I have a much bigger prob
[05:15] <drbrown> that's the cgi-bin
[05:15] <drbrown> w/ permisions changed
[05:15] <graft> what's the big deal about cgi-bin?
[05:16] <graft> sensei: how do you suggest he do that? no one can manipulate the file...
[05:16] <sensei> graft: You don't manipulate the file when adding permissions
[05:16] <sensei> sudo chmod +rw file
[05:16] <Lynoure> graft: nothing, unless you want to run cgi scripts for web.
[05:17] <graft> sensei: yeah, but you still have to have permissions to touch the file if you want to chmod it
[05:17] <graft> otherwise that would be the world's easiest root exploit
[05:18] <sensei> graft: Eh
[05:18] <sensei> root can change permissions on any file
[05:18] <sensei> That's the whole idea of being root.. that you can do ber stuff like that
[05:18] <drbrown> chmod +rw does not work
[05:18] <sensei> 'does not work'.. great
[05:19] <drbrown> I need to boot under a live CD and start poking around I believe my system has been compromised
[05:19] <graft> i don't even know HOW you could strip off ownership completely
[05:19] <apol> anybody knows how can I update the kmenu after installing something with adept?
[05:19] <sensei> chmod 0000 or chmod a-rwx
[05:19] <graft> apol: it should be updated automatically
[05:19] <graft> sensei: that's permissions, not ownership
[05:19] <graft> sensei: file has to have a user and group, right?
[05:19] <apol> graft: it is not
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: How do you mean 'does not work'?
[05:20] <sensei> graft: right
[05:20] <drbrown> chmod 0000 cgi-bin does not work
[05:20] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: You don't want that anyways
[05:20] <graft> apol: what'd you install?
[05:20] <drbrown> all permision denied
[05:20] <sensei> drbrown: You ARE using 'sudo', right?
[05:20] <apol> graft: its firefox
[05:20] <drbrown> chown root.root -R cgi-bin
[05:20] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:21] <sensei> sudo
[05:21] <drbrown> yes
[05:21] <drbrown> I am in a root console
[05:21] <graft> apol doesn't show up under 'internet'?
[05:22] <apol> no
[05:22] <sensei> drbrown: Are you sure? 'whoami'
[05:23] <graft> apol you can always add it yourself with the menu editor...
[05:23] <Lynoure> iain: did your problem get solved?
[05:23] <iain> lynoure:Thank very much it works now
[05:23] <iain> yes
[05:23] <Lynoure> iain: That's nice to hear :)
[05:23] <apol> graft: thx
[05:23] <iain> do you know how to install some games on adept
[05:24] <nico8481> hello
[05:24] <drbrown> root
[05:25] <drbrown> I am root
[05:25] <sensei> drbrown: chmod +rwd cgi-bin
[05:25] <drbrown> invalid mode +rwd
[05:25] <Lynoure> iain: depends on which games. I usually use apt-get myself.   So I'd do    apt-cache search game    and then   apt-cache show  <packagename>   for the more interesting ones,  and finally   apt-get install <packagename>   to get one  :)
[05:26] <sensei> drbrown: erm, chmod +rwx cgi-bin
[05:27] <Lynoure> iain: but actually, if you choose Add programs   from K menu, you get Games icon on the left side. Easier
[05:27] <Abetsic> Hi every body, i have a little question, does the "/" partiton can be on an extended partition or it must be on a primary partition ?
[05:27] <drbrown> permision denied
[05:27] <drbrown> this system has been compromised
[05:27] <drbrown> no doubt
[05:27] <sensei> Abetsic: It can be where ever
[05:28] <drbrown> I am in for a fun day of reloading everything
[05:28] <graft> drbrown: either that or your disk is corrupted
[05:28] <graft> drbrown: run a fsck lately?
[05:28] <iain> i tryied that and i can't get any on the list
[05:28] <drbrown> cgi-bin and this perl stuff w/ permisions changed????? sounds fishy to me
[05:28] <Abetsic> sensei: ok, thanks
[05:29] <drbrown> either way I am going to have to start fresh I will test the HD
[05:29] <drbrown> jik
[05:29] <drbrown> jic
[05:29] <drbrown> no
[05:29] <Lynoure> iain: hmm, then there is possibly something wrong
[05:29] <drbrown> I have not run fsck lately
[05:30] <iain> can you help
[05:32] <Lynoure> iain: maybe, I'm a bit lazy today, though... So, which did you try,  apt-cache show  or  Add/Remove Programs?  and did you get any error messages?
[05:33] <iain> add/remove programs but no error message
[05:34] <Lynoure> iain: and what is in the view? (if anything)
[05:35] <drbrown> I really appreciate all the help
[05:35] <iain> nothing, thats the problem
[05:35] <drbrown> we'll see what knoppix can get
[05:35] <drbrown> exit
[05:36] <Lynoure> iain: then I'd like to see your sources.list , can you put it in pastebin?
[05:36] <Lynoure> !pastebin
[05:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:38] <iain> wheres the paste bin
[05:39] <nico8481> where do you handle the services? (sshd and such)
[05:40] <Lynoure> iain: see above, the message ubotu wrote
[05:40] <iain>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:40] <iain>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[05:40] <iain> 
[05:40] <iain>  ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:40] <iain>  ## distribution.
[05:40] <iain>  deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:40] <iain>  deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted
[05:41] <Lynoure> iain: that's exactly why pastebin instead of pasting on the channel
[05:41] <iain> i don't know where it is
[05:41] <iain> but carry on helping me please
[05:42] <Lynoure> iain: see above, the message ubotu wrote
[05:42] <Lynoure> iain: or, if it is no longer accessable for you because you flooded yourself off the channel: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:44] <iain> i sent it in paste bin
[05:44] <Lynoure> iain: that is the url you got for that?
[05:45] <iain> what do you mean
[05:46] <Lynoure> iain: Where in the pastebin is it, exactly?
[05:47] <iain> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16943
[05:50] <Lynoure> iain: I found it. But next time you post something there, please don't claim to be Lynoure :)
[05:51] <iain> i didn't know sorry
[05:51] <BKaj> Is there a Utlity like Yareg , except that it can  read and extract files from ext3, in windows?
[05:52] <Lynoure> iain: your sources.list looks pretty fine.   If you do   sudo apt-get update   on console,  and then look at the Add/Remove Programs, do you get a list?
[05:52] <knubbe> anyone who has trouble with firefox crashing all the time? especially when watching movies (inside firefox) and sometimes on flash-sites?
[05:54] <Lynoure> iain: basicly the only thing that was slightly off in the sources list were some leading spaces in the beginning of some lines, but those should not make a difference
[05:55] <Trackilizer> I set the default MP3 player to XMMS, but everytime i click on a MP3 file it is opend by amarok.
[05:55] <Trackilizer> How do i change this?
[05:57] <nico8481> is there a GUI tool to manage the system services ?
[05:57] <nico8481> kcontrol
[05:57] <nico8481> oops
[05:57] <nico8481> wrong window
[05:57] <Lynoure> :)
[05:58] <Lynoure> happens to the best of them, occasionally
[05:59] <iain> thanks it works
[05:59] <BKaj> Linux ReiserFS partitions can be read by Yareg , is there an equivalent read utility for ext3 partitions ?
[05:59] <bina> nico8681: i think theres a program called bum that changes what services run at different different levels
[05:59] <iain> Lynoure: thanks it works
[06:00] <bina> nico8481: sorry that message was for you ^
[06:00] <nico8481> bina: thanks... i found something in kcontrol... gonna check if it can start what i need...
[06:01] <Lynoure> iain: :)
[06:01] <bina> nico8481: cool
[06:03] <driz> @t
[06:03] <|lostbyte|> nico8481, kde_components > service manager :)
[06:03] <nico8481> thx :)
[06:05] <nico8481> don't think it's there however... there's no sshd there... but i found it elsewhere in kcontrol
[06:05] <imbrandon_> anyone here on ppc dual booting with osx ?
[06:05] <apol> imbrandon_: i do, on a macmini
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> nico8481: sysv-rc-conf is the easiest thing to use for setting up services imo
[06:05] <|lostbyte|> nico8481, system services :)
[06:06] <imbrandon_> apol: can you pastbin your yaboot.conf ? i cant get my osx to boot for somereason
[06:06] <imbrandon_> it wasent added to my yaboot.conf bedefault and i think i added it wrong
[06:06] <apol> imbrandon_: I'm sorry, I haven't got it here
[06:06] <imbrandon_> s/bedefault/by default
[06:07] <imbrandon_> ahh ok apol ;) thanks
[06:07] <nico8481> hmm it doesn't seem to manage to start the nfs-kernel-server daemon... says it can't start rpc mountd... any idea?
[06:15] <jvz> is it possible to change the Actions sub-menu in Konqueror to just display on the main context menu?
[06:18] <driz> Portugal=0 England=0
[06:22] <wrede> kmail forgets my pop3 password despite me having ticked the box to remember it. I need to enter it anew each time I start kmail. Very annoying!
[06:24] <driz> but safe
[06:32] <kokas> hi there i'm using kubuntu with a pcmcia belkin wireless . how do i put this thing working?
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> kokas: What is the full model number ?
[06:36] <kokas2> h3sp4wn : f5dd7010
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[06:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> You need to install the broadcom firmware I think
[06:38] <kokas2> tks
[06:55] <visik7> packages of kopete 0.12 for kubuntu exists ?
[06:56] <Blissex> visik7: that is a deeply philosophical question... Does 'visik7' exist? :-)
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> The do exist but they are for 3.5.3 - And I can't remember where
[06:56] <visik7> is there a package of kopete 0.12.0 for kubuntu ?
[06:57] <visik7> h3sp4wn: yes infact
[06:57] <visik7> I have 3.5.2
[06:57] <visik7> and don't want to upgrade
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> Build it yourself then
[06:57] <visik7> how ?
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> However you like
[06:58] <visik7> ...
[06:58] <kiba> i need help!
[06:58] <kiba> :$
[06:58] <kiba> how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> visik: find the 3.5.3 packages - add the deb-src line from there apt-get source - then debuild -uc -us
[06:59] <kiba> :$:$:$
[06:59] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> visik: There were in riddell's home directory on kubuntu.org (but I can't remember the exact link)
[07:00] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[07:01] <h3sp4wn> easyubuntu is probably the easiest way
[07:01] <bowler_iain> help!
[07:01] <driz> ask your question stop saying HELP!!!
[07:01] <bowler_iain> Can anyone tell me how to install skype
[07:02] <kiba>  how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[07:02] <kiba>  how to play mp3, mov, wmv, divx etc... on my dapper drake???
[07:03] <bowler_iain> kiba: try kaffine?
[07:03] <kiba> no
[07:03] <kiba> with kaffeine i cant see .mov
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: skype is not free software hence not supported by {k}ubuntu - easyubuntu does support the installation of it however - Penguin liberation front has it however
[07:04] <GullyFoyle> ,restricted
[07:04] <kowal> kiba: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[07:04] <GullyFoyle> !restricted
[07:04] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:04] <bowler_iain> it is cos you can download it from there website
[07:06] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: start konsole and run wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb && sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> 'wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/pool/dapper/i386/non-free/skype/skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb'
[07:07] <h3sp4wn> 'sudo dpkg -i skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb' do it as 2 lines if you want the parts only inside ''
[07:08] <DocTomoe> Hi ... I had to reinstall kubuntu because my /-partition was physically broken (in the truest sense of that word) ... somehow, the packages for build-essentials does no longer seem to exist, just as the linux kernel headers ... any idea on this?
[07:10] <bowler_iain> that does not work
[07:14] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: When something people recommend does not work, it makes things smoother if you tell them how. But you can also get easyubuntu and get it to install skype for you
[07:14] <Lynoure> !tell bowler_iain about easyubuntu
[07:15] <bowler_iain> how does that work
[07:17] <Lynoure> !easyubuntu
[07:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[07:18] <Lynoure> bowler_iain: if you google for it, you'll find the answer prolly behind the first hit
[07:18] <bowler_iain> thanks
[07:24] <h3sp4wn> bowler_iain: I just tested what I told you to do and it worked perfectly what errors did you get
[07:25] <bowler_iain> i just double click on the .deb (i'm very new to linux!!)
[07:26] <h3sp4wn> you have to install it with sudo dpkg -i (I don't know about clicking the deb)
[07:27] <Chryseus> !mp3
[07:27] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <bowler_iain> thanks
[08:01] <crooger> hi all
[08:02] <crooger> anyone knowns how to install kadu on kubuntu ?
[08:03] <sotired> apt-get install kadu
[08:03] <sotired> maybe
[08:03] <sotired> i dont even know what kadu is
[08:03] <sotired> hi gatekepper
[08:03] <gatekeeper> hi sotired :-)
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://www.kadu.net/download/binary/ubuntu/repo dapper main' >> /etc/apt/sources.list"
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> type that in terminal..
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> when done.. do... sudo apt-get update
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> then do what sotired said.
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> sotired, its an instant messenger..
[08:05] <sotired> oh.. i see
[08:05] <|lostbyte|> that supports gadu-gadu protocol.
[08:05] <sotired> seems to be an abundance of them
[08:05] <swaj_> hmm
[08:06] <swaj_> how do you get Konversation to not color everyone's nicknames?
[08:06] <swaj_> feels like a rainbow party
[08:06] <|lostbyte|> swaj_, Is there some where in its settings.. search
[08:07] <crooger> Czytanie list pakietw... Gotowe
[08:07] <crooger> W: GPG error: http://www.kadu.net dapper Release: Nastpujce sygnatury nie mogy zosta zweryfikowane z powodu braku klucza publicznego: NO_PUBKEY 5EC42C53D86A66BA
[08:07] <crooger> W: Naley uruchomi apt-get update aby naprawi te problemy.
[08:07] <Blissex> swaj_: #Konversation, but just do as <|lostbyte|> says
[08:07] <crooger> lostbyte: polish ?
[08:07] <sotired> uhhh...sure
[08:07] <Blissex> swaj_: BTW, that coloring is really important to follow what people say.
[08:07] <sotired> i undertood 'problemy"
[08:07] <crooger> no czesc
[08:07] <swaj_> Blissex: nah, I find it annoying
[08:07] <|lostbyte|> crooger, english pls..
[08:07] <crooger> okey
[08:08] <Blissex> swaj_: perhaps you want to change colors to some less garish ones...
[08:08] <orient2000> what is kadu?
[08:08] <crooger> i pasted messages what i have after "sudo apt-get update"
[08:09] <crooger> polish gadu-gadu client
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> orient2000, its an IM that supports the gadu agadu prottocal .. very populat in poland.
[08:09] <|lostbyte|> crooger, ok ! i'll want you to see the source.list
[08:10] <|lostbyte|> crooger, have you done this before ?
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:11] <crooger> so.. what are we looking for
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> crooger, you have to see [08:11] <|lostbyte|> at the bottom..
[08:11] <|lostbyte|> correct it if its wronge.
[08:12] <orient2000> Oh, I see but I do not like speak Polish :P
[08:12] <|lostbyte|> alright ! if its the same.. save and close..
[08:13] <swaj_> I can't decide.... Kubuntu or Ubuntu... I like Gnome, but this new KDE is sexy too ><
[08:13] <crooger> yeah
[08:13] <crooger> |lostbyte|: the same
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> crooger, now type the following commands one after the other...
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg.txt
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> sudo apt-key add gpg.txt
[08:14] <|lostbyte|> crooger, tell me when done.
[08:15] <crooger> |lostbyte|: "gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found" ... done :D
[08:16] <|lostbyte|> ok ! this one..
[08:16] <|lostbyte|> wget http://poczta.prezu.one.pl/miastoplusa_sms/gpg
[08:17] <crooger> done
[08:17] <|lostbyte|> also second command.
[08:18] <crooger> what command ?
[08:18] <|lostbyte|>  sudo apt-key add gpg.txt
[08:18] <|lostbyte|>  sudo apt-key add gpg
[08:18] <|lostbyte|> this one ^
[08:19] <roadrunner> Hey guys, I have a small process problem... it won't let me run Adept because it says something else is using the packaging database... would someone mind PMing me and helping me out please?
[08:19] <crooger> |lostbyte|: ok :-)
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo killall adept
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo killall apt-get
[08:19] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, then try..
[08:19] <roadrunner> well, I did the sudo kpm
[08:20] <roadrunner> and then from the graphical task manager, I killed all Adept processes
[08:20] <roadrunner> but I will try it your way once and see what happens
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, dpkg --configure -a
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, and now try.
[08:20] <crooger> |lostbyte|: thats it ?
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> crooger, do the update now..
[08:20] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get update
[08:20] <crooger> oh... i'm so stupid :P
[08:21] <roadrunner> |lostbyte|: when I did what you said, and did the sudo kill all commands, it just says "no process killed"
[08:21] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, thats good.. means no process is running..
[08:22] <crooger> done
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, now try adept
[08:22] <roadrunner> wait a minute
[08:22] <roadrunner> I just now saw your other thing... dpkg command... what does that do/
[08:22] <crooger> where i can find it ?
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> crooger, now...  ------> sudo apt-get install kadu
[08:22] <|lostbyte|> crooger, that will install the program..
[08:23] <crooger> nice
[08:23] <crooger> thanks
[08:23] <DjDarkman19> hy I compiled a game ,and I want to make a *.deb package so that my friends won`t have to compile it ,how do I package it?
[08:23] <|lostbyte|> crooger, After which you will find it in kmenu..
[08:23] <roadrunner> hm... |lostbyte| that worked fine... adept opened right up
[08:23] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman19, Read the packaging guide.
[08:23] <crooger> also do you know how to change default language of KDE to polish ?
[08:23] <roadrunner> but if it didn't kill any processes why did it not open before?
[08:24] <crooger> in config i have only english
[08:24] <roadrunner> if the processes were already killed, I don't see why it wouldn't open for me. The only thing I can think of was that dpkg command, but what did that do?
[08:24] <crooger> it's not problem but
[08:24] <crazy_penguin> |lostbyte|: hi!
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, Cool ! so remmber, everytime you db locks up.. run that command. it will reconfigure your db, removing all locak files..
[08:24] <crazy_penguin> h3sp4wn: ping
[08:24] <|lostbyte|> craffop, hi there..
[08:26] <DjDarkman19> |lostbyte|: where is the packageing guide?
[08:27] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl
[08:28] <jmichaelx> has anyone in here ever gotten  a USB wireless adaptor to work with kubuntu?
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> DjDarkman19, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, i got my ovis link to work will ndiswrapper.
[08:28] <kronoz> jmichaelx: yes
[08:28] <kronoz> jmichaelx: tell us which model/version/specifics
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> crazy_penguin, hi there.
[08:28] <|lostbyte|> :)
[08:28] <jmichaelx> how about a linksys?
[08:29] <kronoz> a linksys what
[08:29] <|lostbyte|> crooger, after installing that go to the same place you saw english..
[08:29] <jmichaelx> i have two... both a wusb54gs and wusb54g v.4
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, Do you have windows drivers for it ?
[08:30] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, before that do a search on google.com linux compatibility..
[08:30] <BoSJo> Hi all: This is driving me mad, almost every web page i visit fail to load the 1-2 last images, both Firefox and Knoqueror, any one got an idea what could be wrong?
[08:30] <roadrunner> oh, hey, |lostbyte| it still doesn't work... I have killed all processes that pertain to adept, but when I try to open the package manager it says it is loading, then it just dissapeard
[08:31] <jmichaelx> |lostbyte|: i have the CDs  that came with them, but that is it at the moment
[08:31] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, huh ? run it in konsole. so we can see the debug info..
[08:31] <kronoz> jmichaelx:
[08:31] <kronoz> http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Installing_Linksys_WUSB54G_t32624.html
[08:32] <jmichaelx> kronoz: ?
[08:32] <jmichaelx> ahhh thank you
[08:32] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, lucky you :P
[08:32] <roadrunner> |lostbyte|: weird... when I typed adept open in the console, adept opened and ran fine... but when I try to open it from the GUI it doesn't work
[08:33] <jmichaelx> |lostbyte|: just because it is on that list does not mean it will work for me lol
[08:34] <gatekeeper> roadrunner: try kdesu adept start it up and kill it a couple of times see what happens
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> jmichaelx, that forum has a happy ending.. :P
[08:34] <crooger> |lostbyte|: last little question: how to install Polish lang. on KDE in Kubuntu ?
[08:34] <themouse> hi, everyone, i have a problem compiling freetype with BCI enabled, i get
[08:34] <themouse> /bin/bash: dh_testdir: command not found
[08:34] <themouse> make: *** [clean]  Error 127
[08:34] <|lostbyte|> crooger, i just told you.. ^^^^^
[08:35] <themouse> can some one help me?
[08:35] <roadrunner> well, it was doing this to me last night too... it sucks, rebooting everything doesn't help either... it's a problem that won't go away >_<
[08:35] <roadrunner> oh, and I just installed kubuntu 2 days ago, it shouldnt be too screwed up
[08:35] <|lostbyte|> themouse, tell me about BCI.. :) does it really make microsoft fonts smooth ?
[08:36] <crooger> ohh sorry
[08:36] <crooger> i'm quite lost
[08:36] <crooger> :-)
[08:36] <crooger> my first linux :-)
[08:36] <themouse> that's what they say
[08:36] <themouse> :D
[08:36] <themouse> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-84359.html
[08:36] <|lostbyte|> crooger, sudo apt-get install language-pack-pl
[08:36] <themouse> here's the HOWTO
[08:36] <orient2000> I am downloading easyubuntu. There is also PLF list. What is PLF list?
[08:37] <roadrunner> hey, lostbyte, now I have a weird problem... when I get to Adept, and I click "Inspect changes" it shows me a list of all the things I sleected to install
[08:37] <roadrunner> it also shows me a bunch of programs that are installed, but it says they are "Broken" and should be removed. Then there are bunch of other normal programs it says it wants to remove
[08:37] <roadrunner> when I click changes are okay, proceed, it gives me the following error
[08:37] <roadrunner> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[08:38] <admin_> hello
[08:38] <admin_> yo
[08:39] <zorglu1> roadrunner: try running adaptic (dunno the name) it will provide you a line to type
[08:39] <zorglu1> wow this is real helpfull :)
[08:40] <roadrunner> it says command not found
[08:40] <zorglu1> dpkg --configure -a
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, done one thing..
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> purge it and then reinstall..
[08:40] <zorglu1> roadrunner: try "sudo dpkg --configure -a" in a terminal
[08:40] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, told him that already..
[08:40] <roadrunner> zorglu1: I did that, but what did iit do?
[08:40] <zorglu1> ok didnt follow :)
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> zorglu1, still the problem persists.. after the next exit..
[08:41] <zorglu1> roadrunner: listen to lostbyte
[08:41] <roadrunner> zorglu1: I dont understand what that command did though, lol
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, here.. do this..
[08:41] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner, sudo apt-get --purge remove adept
[08:42] <themouse> |lostbyte|, anything for me?
[08:42] <roadrunner> crap
[08:42] <roadrunner> wait... I have another un related question first
[08:43] <roadrunner> it keeps telling me I am un registered in IRC and can't PM, even though I already registered. How do I reindentify myself with my registered account?
[08:43] <roadrunner> I can't remember what to do
[08:43] <kbrooks> orient2000: the PLF repoitory i a repoitory with many packages
[08:43] <kbrooks> roadrunner: /msg nickerv identify pass
[08:43] <crooger> is there anything what you, |lostbyte| don't know ? :-)
[08:43] <crooger> really big thx
[08:44] <kbrooks> orient2000: the packages in plf are nonfree (not free as in speech)
[08:44] <themouse> roadrunner and then /msg nickserv set unfiltered on
[08:44] <roadrunner_> ok... do you have to re identify everytime? Because it keeps telling me that >_<
[08:44] <roadrunner_> everytime I log in I have to re-identify
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> themouse, you need debhelper
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> apt-get install debhelper
[08:45] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, xchat ?
[08:46] <crooger> \server irc.php.pl
[08:46] <themouse> |lostbyte| 10x
[08:46] <themouse> I'll try it
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: what?
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: I did what you said, I pm'ed you with the output...
[08:47] <roadrunner_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:47] <roadrunner_> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:47] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[08:47] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, which command ?
[08:47] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: there, just in case you didn't see it, that is what it said when I did your command.
[08:47] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: um, uh
[08:47] <roadrunner_>  sudo apt-get --purge remove adept
[08:47] <themouse> |lostbyte|, there's another error: "configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[08:48] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: did you change your sources.list (even if thru adept)
[08:48] <zorglu1> !essential build
[08:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about essential build
[08:48] <kbrooks> zorglu1: !build-essential
[08:48] <kbrooks> !build-essential
[08:48] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[08:48] <|lostbyte|> themouse, you need that ^
[08:48] <larson9999> this linux thing rocks! i think i'll keep it
[08:49] <zorglu1> kbrooks: wasnt that far :)
[08:49] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, good choise !
[08:49] <kbrooks> zorglu1, |lostbyte|: ue !factoid > user
[08:49] <roadrunner_> kbrooks: I don't know how to do that... how would I change the sources.list?
[08:49] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: well, adept changes it for you
[08:50] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i don't know if i trust the judgement of someone with a pipe in his name.
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: did you disable multiverse recently?
[08:50] <roadrunner_> -_-
[08:50] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: made the choice in 97 actually :)
[08:50] <roadrunner_> Im a linux noob, sorry
[08:50] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, this is the list --> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:50] <roadrunner_> Im an A+ windows man... so I don't know what you mean
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: um. did you JUST install kubuntu
[08:50] <roadrunner_> the only thing I did with "multiverse" was added it to one server in adept to allow me to download new packages
[08:50] <roadrunner_> and yes, I did, just 2 days ago
[08:50] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: it seems like you added multivere already
[08:51] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, wow ! and now you found out it rocks.. to late..:P
[08:51] <roadrunner_> I guess I did... another guy walked me through adding a repository so I could download more packages
[08:51] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: okay. so did you disable it recently? sun java is in there
[08:51] <roadrunner_> I added "multiverse" to the one server name, but that's it... just so I could download packages
[08:51] <roadrunner_> is sun java in where? In my package list?
[08:51] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: in multiverse.
[08:52] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: actually i found out it rocks in '99 when i was finally able to get a joystick and printer working properly :)
[08:52] <roadrunner_> how do you get to multiverse? I don't even know what multiverse is...
[08:52] <roadrunner_> Im a noob sorry
[08:52] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: well, obviously no one explained it to you
[08:52] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: no, i dont want to pm you
[08:52] <roadrunner_> ok, then never mind...
[08:53] <roadrunner_> but no, I have no idea what multiverse is
[08:53] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, :) took you 3 years to get your joy and printer working :P
[08:53] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: to get them working correctly?  that it did
[08:54] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: multiverse contain packages that are not free software, that is software that you dont have the permission to edit and redistribute and copy
[08:54] <roadrunner_> oh
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, for me it was just plug in and there js0 wsa created..
[08:54] <roadrunner_> do you have to pay for them? Or are they still free, just not open source?
[08:54] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, what distro did you start with ?
[08:54] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: well two really.
[08:54] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: universe contains packages that MAY or may not be free software
[08:55] <roadrunner_> ok, well, what was I looking for?
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: vmware (er, the workstation version) is not inclluded in ubuntu anywhere
[08:55] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: suse and mandrake off and on trying to get those two things installed.  i couldn't find ANYONE who used a js through the soundcard gameport.  finally i found a site that explained it clearly
[08:55] <roadrunner_> sun-java5-bin?
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: so most in multiverse are free
[08:55] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: exactly
[08:55] <roadrunner_> is that what you said to look for?
[08:56] <roadrunner_> ok, well, it is installed
[08:56] <h3sp4wn> roadrunner: qemu with kqemu is almost as quick as vmware workstation
[08:56] <roadrunner_> I opened adept manager and it says sun-java5-bin is installed
[08:56] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: and the printer worked but had a pixellating problem that it took a bit for me to track down
[08:56] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, that i can understand..
[08:57] <kbrooks> roadrunner_: show the error again?
[08:57] <roadrunner_> so now what should I do?
[08:57] <roadrunner_> ok, just a sec
[08:58] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i think part of the problem too was that lots of the people i had helping me were using old, stable kernels and i was using the new one and things were in the middle of big changes back then.  like even now some of those guys probably don't use modprobe
[08:59] <roadrunner_> ok, when I open the adept installed and go to install something, I click inspect changes. Then, the windows that shows your changes it filled with a bunch of packages that say "BROKE (Installed)" And then just some other "Installed" programs that it wants to remove
[08:59] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: things are so easy now :)
[08:59] <roadrunner_> and then of course the package that I selected to installed are there too... so I hit changes are okay, proceed. Cuz I don't know what broken packages are, but it suggested removing them, so I figured I would do whatever it says
[09:00] <roadrunner_> th when I hit process, I get this error: There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, you can say that again..
[09:00] <|lostbyte|> Linux Rocks :P
[09:01] <kbrooks> hah
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> actually its the community + packaging system + linux that makes it rock
[09:02] <|lostbyte|> and ubuntu has it all..
[09:02] <afm\colossus> it's GNU that makes Linux rock, really
[09:02] <afm\colossus> and the philosophy behind Free Software
[09:03] <roadrunner_> so... what should I do
[09:03] <roadrunner_> why does it keep giving me that error, and why are there all of these "broken" links
[09:03] <roadrunner_> do... "broken" packages I mean
[09:04] <roadrunner_> gah... I can't type today... but anyways, do you know why I would be having that problem?
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, Arg ! how could i forget the lovely gnu project..
[09:06] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: you still available? You were heklping me earlier...
[09:06] <deuce868> anyone suggest a good chm viewer for kde I can use? Looking at getting the php docs downloaded and want to be able to pull it up.
[09:06] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: but now I cant download or install any new packages because it keeps giving me an error...
[09:06] <dna_> will there be any 2.6.x kernel upgrades to dapper?
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, do you get the same error ?
[09:06] <roadrunner_> do you unerstand my problem so far?
[09:06] <afm\colossus> dna_: no, i don't think so
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> dna_, not at the moment..
[09:06] <afm\colossus> this would totally break policies
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> yes, there will obiously, time will tell..
[09:07] <roadrunner_> Whenever I click to get the updates, it shows everything I slected to install, and a bunch of broken packages. I have no idea how I got a bunch of broken packages.
[09:07] <roadrunner_> but then when I click to send the packages, it says it cant and gives me the following error
[09:08] <dna_> oki
[09:08] <roadrunner_> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[09:08] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, so adept is still there ?
[09:08] <gatekeeper> roadrunner_: broken usually means some of the 'library' files that are needed to run the program, ie files that it is dependant on are not there, not sure if that is true in your case or whether something is more fundermentally broken
[09:08] <roadrunner_> yeah, I can open adept and stuff
[09:08] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, i'll pass u my source.list just replace yours..
[09:08] <roadrunner_> and yeah, I figured that was what broken meant... and it says it is going to uninstall them, but whenever I do that is just gives me that error
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, Before, we do that just try one last thing..
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> do..
[09:09] <nalioth> !multimedia > cute_bettong
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> sudo apt-get -f install
[09:10] <dna_> is there some development repository where I can find kernel upgrades? A kubuntu -current?
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> and try again..
[09:10] <ozmodiar> I have some troubles with my X, on kubuntu dapper. I must login trough recovery mode and then manualy start x (startx), otherwise a nvidia logo show up on the monitor and nothing more happends. Please help me...
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> dna_, if there will be one, it will come in main.
[09:10] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:10] <roadrunner_> I get that error whenever I do that command
[09:10] <gatekeeper> dna_: do you want to compile your own kernel?
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> "sudo apt-get -f install"          ...only
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, ^
[09:11] <roadrunner_> the problem is, I cant uninstall or reinstall java, because the stupid package manager wont let me do anything
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> ozmodiar, are you in home dir ?
[09:11] <roadrunner_> Reading package lists... Done
[09:11] <roadrunner_> Building dependency tree... Done
[09:11] <roadrunner_> E: The package sun-java5-bin needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[09:11] <roadrunner_> that is the error I receive when I run that command
[09:11] <BrigadierFrog> how would I make sure that some binary takes precedence over another with the PATH env var
[09:11] <BrigadierFrog> like say I have two versions of qmake
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> one in /usr/local/bin and one in /usr/bin
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> how would I make sure the /usr/local/bin has precedence
[09:12] <ozmodiar> |lostbyte|: Eh?
[09:12] <james_xxx> if someone has the time, i would appreciate being walked through setting up ndiswrapper to work with a linksys wireless usb adapter... this insructions are at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L and the adapter is WUSB54GS v.2
[09:12] <|lostbyte|> BrigadierFrog, huh ! the way its displayed in $PATH i woould guess.
[09:12] <BrigadierFrog> its not though
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ubuntu.com > wiki > search "nidiwrapper" has a guide.
[09:13] <dna_> gatekeeper: I need support for atheros 5005 chipset and I don't want to compile my own kernel because, 1. not sure how to do it with grub and kubuntu and 2, I will now get critical updates to my kernel then so from the moment I compile my own kernel I will always have to compile my own kernels :(
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> "ndiswrapper"*
[09:13] <BrigadierFrog>  /usr/local/bin is before /usr/bin
[09:13] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: my question trouble is somewhat specific to this adapter
[09:13] <BrigadierFrog> which qmake says /usr/bin/qmake
[09:13] <|lostbyte|> BrigadierFrog, so there you go, am not sure by the way.. just a thought.
[09:13] <gatekeeper> dna_: ok :-)
[09:14] <dna_> gatekeeper: but it is tempting :-)
[09:14] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: what should I do now
[09:15] <gatekeeper> dna_: I have never tried it but there is a nice HowTo in the ubuntu forums that walks you through the process
[09:15] <crimsun> roadrunner_: do you have all the repos enabled?
[09:15] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, hold on..
[09:16] <dna_> oki, I can compile kernels on slackware and lilo so kubuntu with grub can't be so much diffrent anyway
[09:16] <roadrunner_> crimsun: all of them? I don't know. Some guy walked me through opening up one repository, that way I could get more packages
[09:16] <roadrunner_> but I can't get any packages right now... I get an error
[09:16] <crimsun> roadrunner_: apt-cache policy sun-java5-bin
[09:16] <gatekeeper> dna_: here is a buch or repos don't know if any of them will help http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:16] <roadrunner_> and when I do the "Inspect changes" it finds alot of broken packages
[09:17] <dna_> gatekeeper: I have looked at that page already :)
[09:17] <dna_> enabled universe
[09:17] <dna_> btw, what is multiverse?
[09:17] <crimsun> !components
[09:17] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:17] <crimsun> dna_: read that.
[09:18] <roadrunner_> crimsun: I just did what you said... it just showed me my java version and stuff
[09:18] <dna_> oki, thanks
[09:18] <crimsun> roadrunner_: I need the output pastebinned
[09:18] <ncaller> I am running dapper mp3's work fine in most applications (yes I have installed support following the wiki), however when I try to create an audio CD in K3B and drag an mp3 file into the project I get "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:" any ideas?
[09:18] <roadrunner_> paste binned?
[09:18] <roadrunner_> I don't know what that means
[09:18] <dna_> ah, "not free" software
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> dna_, The "multiverse" component contains software that is "not free"
[09:19] <crimsun> !paste
[09:19] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:19] <crimsun> roadrunner_: read that.
[09:19] <roadrunner_> !paste
[09:20] <roadrunner_> ...
[09:20] <roadrunner_> what do I put under name?
[09:20] <roadrunner_> my name? Or your name?
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, your name..
[09:21] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, just replace mine http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16951 with yours and update..
[09:21] <roadrunner_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16952
[09:21] <roadrunner_> lol.. I made one
[09:24] <roadrunner_> so now what?
[09:24] <james_xxx> does anyone know what BCMRNDIS.INF is, and where one can get it?
[09:25] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, its a driver file for windows.
[09:26] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i thought so, the instructions i am looking at refer to it, i have googled it, but i still cannot figure out where to find it
[09:26] <roadrunner_> crimsun: did you get my paste bin?
[09:26] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, See if its not in the driver cd you already have..
[09:26] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: not that i can tell
[09:27] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|:  I appear to have been ditched... would you be able to help me go throught his again?
[09:27] <crimsun> roadrunner_: looking now.
[09:27] <roadrunner_> |lostbyte|: I just need someone to spend like, 10 minutes with me without leaving, lol
[09:27] <roadrunner_> crimsun: ah... my bad =D I thought you left
[09:27] <james_xxx> i can wait for roadrunner to be helped lol
[09:28] <roadrunner_> well, I just keep switching between two people
[09:28] <roadrunner_> lol... I need to just pick one and stick with them
[09:28] <roadrunner_> so it's partially my fault =D
[09:29] <crimsun> roadrunner_: there're no lines like the following?
[09:29] <crimsun>      1.5.0-06-1 0
[09:29] <crimsun>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse Packages
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, FOUND !
[09:29] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, http://www.belkin.com/support/download/downloaddetails.asp?download=1871&lang=1
[09:29] <roadrunner_> Installed: 1.5.0-06-1
[09:29] <roadrunner_>   Candidate: 1.5.0-06-1
[09:29] <roadrunner_>   Version table:
[09:29] <roadrunner_>  *** 1.5.0-06-1 0
[09:29] <roadrunner_>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[09:30] <roadrunner_> that is all it said, right there... no more, no less
[09:30] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: thank you so much... i'll check that out right now
[09:30] <crimsun> roadrunner_: then your active sources.list is missing multiverse completely.
[09:30] <roadrunner_> lol
[09:30] <crimsun> roadrunner_: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:30] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, You got to extract that.. try wine or something..
[09:30] <roadrunner_> how do I open that? What should I open it with?
[09:30] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: ok i have downloaded that...
[09:31] <roadrunner_> Like I said, complete noob with Kubuntu, so what is the name of a text editor it uses?
[09:31] <crimsun> roadrunner_: kate, cat, more, whatever.
[09:31] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: ok, i was wondering how to do that in linux
[09:31] <roadrunner_> kate, that's right, thanks
[09:31] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, huh ! Use wine..
[09:32] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: sorry for my noobishness, i have learned a lot the last few months, but have a long ways to go... i have never used wine
[09:32] <roadrunner_> crimsun: I know I am an idiot... but what do I type to open it in Kate from the command prompt?
[09:33] <roadrunner_> do I just type kate filename?
[09:33] <crimsun> roadrunner_: just ``cat /etc/apt/sources.list''
[09:33] <crimsun> you don't need to open it
[09:33] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, Then try to install that file in windows.. and search for that inf file..
[09:33] <roadrunner_> I thought I needed to open it to copy/paste the contents to the paste bin...?
[09:33] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to transparent the date and time on kicker?
[09:34] <roadrunner_> and yes, I just "kate sources.list" and it opened it... so I should just copy/paste that into the paste bin?
[09:34] <crimsun> roadrunner_: yes
[09:35] <roadrunner_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16956
[09:35] <caribou7> Does anyone here use the Krusader file manager?
[09:35] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, noooo... sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> roadrunner_, sorry ! i dont want to interrupt.. simply ignore me..
[09:36] <crimsun> roadrunner_: line 16 has a typo
[09:36] <|lostbyte|> AFK..
[09:36] <roadrunner_> how did it get a typo?
[09:37] <roadrunner_> OOOOH
[09:37] <roadrunner_> When I changed that in adpet
[09:37] <roadrunner_> adept*
[09:37] <roadrunner_> gee... I wonder how I typoed it?
[09:37] <caribou7> Okay, nobody uses Krusader... how about this has anyone managed to install winetools?
[09:37] <crimsun> simple. You made a typo.
[09:37] <roadrunner_> I changed that in adept, and I made a typo
[09:37] <crimsun> Just fix the typo, refresh, and go on with your life.
[09:37] <roadrunner_> right... but I didn't know that changing it in adept would change that file...
[09:38] <roadrunner_> I don't know what I am doing, lol
[09:38] <roadrunner_> thanks alot crimsun... may seem simple to you, but I wouldn't know how to fix it =D
[09:38] <themouse> |lostbyte|, I advanced on the compiling, but now i get another error :@
[09:38] <themouse> make[1] : *** [/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10/obj/grx11.o]  Error 1
[09:38] <themouse> make[1] : Leaving directory `/home/themouse/Desktop/freetype/freetype-2.1.10/ft2demos-2.1.10'
[09:38] <themouse> make: *** [build-stamp]  Error 2
[09:40] <nimix> j
[09:40] <gatekeeper> themouse: use pastebin easier for evryone to see
[09:40] <themouse> ?
[09:40] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i just used wine to extract that file, but i have no idea where it extracted it to LOL
[09:40] <gatekeeper> !pastebin
[09:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:42] <themouse> ok
[09:42] <caribou7> No one uses krusader or winetools? Guess I'll try again some other time.
[09:43] <james_xxx> if you extract a file using wine, where does it extract to?
[09:43] <|lostbyte|> brb 10 min
[09:44] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: to wine's per-user-basedir
[09:45] <james_xxx> ok
[09:45] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: ty
[09:47] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: next dumb question... how do i find that dir?
[09:48] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: it's probably ~/.wine/drive_c/
[09:48] <james_xxx> hmm
[09:49] <themouse> it's hidden in your home dir
[09:49] <themouse> in Konqueror View > Show hidden files
[09:50] <james_xxx> themouse: ty
[09:50] <themouse> ?
[09:52] <james_xxx> ok this is confusing as hell
[09:53] <themouse> what exactly?
[09:53] <james_xxx> i extracted that file using wine, and i am now in the .wine dir, but i see nothing of what i just extracted
[09:53] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, hi :)
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, if your in the dir..
[09:54] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: hi lol
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, do ..
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> find | grep -i BCMRNDIS.INF
[09:55] <themouse> |lostbyte|, can you help me with ^ error?
[09:55] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i entered that, nothing happened
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, I should display the inf.
[09:56] <|lostbyte|> find | grep -i *.INF
[09:56] <afm\colossus> nonono
[09:56] <james_xxx> hmmm
[09:56] <afm\colossus> find . -iname "*.inf"
[09:56] <|lostbyte|> -name
[09:56] <james_xxx> ok, do i need to cd to the .wine dir before i enter all of that?
[09:57] <afm\colossus> |lostbyte|: no, iname
[09:57] <afm\colossus> for case-insensitivity
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, ok !
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> cool ! nice to know.
[09:58] <themouse> |lostbyte|, did you forget me :)
[09:58] <themouse> ^
[09:58] <|lostbyte|> themouse, no ! lolz..
[09:58] <james_xxx> ugh, command not found
[09:58] <themouse> :)
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> themouse, error ?
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> oh ! i see
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> could you paste a little more lines of the error in.. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:00] <themouse> w8
[10:01] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i am still unable to locate that file
[10:02] <__osh__> is there a known problem with katapult in dapper?
[10:02] <themouse> |lostbyte| http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16957
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, that command does'nt work for me too..
[10:03] <afm\colossus> |lostbyte|: how does it fail?
[10:03] <james_xxx> should i not be able to just see that .inf file using konqueror?
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> themouse, looks to me like a programming error, which is not in my expertease.
[10:04] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: depens on where it resides, huh? :>
[10:04] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i am sure it does... but none of those commands worked
[10:05] <afm\colossus> themouse: may i ask you why you are compiling freetype yourself?
[10:05] <themouse> because
[10:05] <james_xxx> i was just trying to look in all of the .wine folders
[10:05] <afm\colossus> james_xxx: well, then it's not there, or the file's name differs
[10:05] <themouse> i want to enable Bytecode interpreter
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> which type of bytecode ?
[10:06] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: ok, i just don't get what wine did when in unzipped the .exe file.... it extracted to nowhere
[10:06] <afm\colossus> try this: find / -iname "*.inf"
[10:06] <gatekeeper> themouse: flags is a member of a struct or class but does not appear to be in the original declaration of the struct or class, could be a missing member could be a missing .h file
[10:06] <afm\colossus> maybe it extracted to somewhere under /tmp
[10:06] <|lostbyte|> afm\colossus, My Wronge.. i apologize.
[10:07] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: it is now listing HUNDREDS of .inf files
[10:07] <afm\colossus> well, then refine your search criterias
[10:07] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/
[10:07] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! take care!
[10:08] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, ls -l .wine/drive_c/windows/system32/drivers/
[10:08] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no such file or directory
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, I dought you installed the driver..
[10:09] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: i downloaded the file, and i extracted it with wine
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, extracted it where ?
[10:09] <|lostbyte|> was it an extract or an install ?
[10:10] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: how in the world am i supposed to know that?
[10:10] <james_xxx> that is what i am trying to figure out
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, did it ask you where you wanted to extract..  ?
[10:10] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no, it didn't
[10:11] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, did the program tell you that the installation is over ?
[10:11] <james_xxx> winzip cam up and asked if i wanted to extract that file, i clicked 'ok'
[10:11] <JIuHgeMaHH> hello. how can i enable preview of jpegs in konqueror?
[10:11] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: WINZIP?
[10:11] <Ardarandir> wtf?
[10:12] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: winzip didn't indicate the location??
[10:12] <james_xxx> |lostbyte|: no, i said it was done extracting, but nothing about installing
[10:12] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: no, not at all
[10:12] <themouse> gatekeeper how can i fix that
[10:12] <james_xxx> it*
[10:12] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: have a look at C:\temp
[10:12] <gatekeeper> |lostbyte|: sounds like a self extractor
[10:12] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i am not in windows
[10:13] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so why do you use winzip?
[10:13] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: have you access to winzip?
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> james_xxx, huh..
[10:13] <admin_> hello
[10:13] <admin_> who can help me
[10:13] <james_xxx> i was trying to unzip the file using wine... and winzip just came up. shocked me too.
[10:14] <Ardarandir> admin_: just ask you questiobn
[10:14] <gatekeeper> themouse: without looking at the C/C++ code I wouldn't know, is this a tarball you downloaded?
[10:14] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so you DO have a C:/temp ! have a look there!
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> admin_, Aak and though shall recieve. :P
[10:15] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: on my windoes partition?
[10:15] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: no - on you VIRTUAL c-drive inside wine!
[10:15] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: usually /home/$USER/.wine/drive_c/
[10:15] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: he ought to be able to open this file with winzip and look inside one way or another
[10:16] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: that file is empty
[10:16] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: this oughta be your wine-main-directory!
[10:16] <Ardarandir> no file
[10:16] <Ardarandir> a dir!
[10:17] <james_xxx> i have neve rused wine before, i just installed wine a few minutes ago
[10:17] <rioch> how do i close down the xserver
[10:17] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: this dir should be set up anyway...
[10:17] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: but what for?
[10:17] <rioch> ctrl-alt-backspace restarts it, but i want to shut it down completely.
[10:17] <Ardarandir> rioch: the whole system or only the xserver?
[10:18] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: it is there, but it is empty
[10:18] <rioch> Ardarandir: just the xserver.
[10:18] <Ardarandir> rioch: sry, so i dont know
[10:18] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: so wine has not been set up correctly
[10:18] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: all thoose DLLs should be there
[10:19] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: anyway, why do you want to extract it with WINZIP?
[10:19] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i did no setting up at all, i just installed it from Adept, and when i clicked on the .exe file, winzip came up
[10:19] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: i cant believe - you are sure you use a Kubuntu-System?
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i never said that i wanted to extract it with winzip
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: geesh, yes, i am using kubuntu
[10:20] <Ardarandir> there is no programme called WinZip with Kubuntu!
[10:20] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: he seems to have extracted a file (using winzip) that he has downloaded but has no idea where it is, if he examines the contents of what he downloaded he will be able to find the file by looking for it using it's exact name to locate it
[10:20] <Ardarandir> where did you get it?
[10:20] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: where did i get what?
[10:21] <Ardarandir> winzip!
[10:21] <Ardarandir> how did you get winzip on your kubuntu - if you did not use wine???
[10:21] <Ardarandir> thats impossible, isnt it?
[10:21] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: look, i just installed wine about 5 or 6 minutes ago... how it found winzip after i clicked on the .exe file, i have no idea
[10:21] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: I think what he downloaded was a self-extractor that uses winzip to extract
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i DID use wine! i have said that over and over
[10:22] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: good idea :)
[10:22] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: program association :-)
[10:22] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: but you did not install winzip, right?
[10:22] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes, it was a self-extractor
[10:22] <Ardarandir> ok, i understand
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: no, i didn't install winzip
[10:22] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: as you can tell, i am totally befuddled by all of this lol
[10:22] <Ardarandir> the problem is to get compressed files out of an selfextracting winzip-archive!
[10:23] <james_xxx> ahh
[10:23] <Ardarandir> right?
[10:23] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: if you open this self-extracting file using winzip you can examine it's contents
[10:23] <james_xxx> don't ask me lol
[10:23] <james_xxx> hmmm
[10:23] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: is there no possibility to send it to a friend of yours who is using windows?
[10:23] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: i have no idea where to find the contents
[10:23] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: he coul dextract it for you and send it back...
[10:24] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i have sveral computers with windows installed
[10:24] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: start winzip -> File -> Open -> downloaded file
[10:24] <mcrandello> you could try changing the filename to .zip and using ark to get to the contents
[10:24] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: if you double-click on that .exe-archive, usually you are prompted to give a directoy to extract to
[10:24] <mcrandello> that sometimes works with self extractors
[10:24] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: that is what i am used to in windows, but it did not ask
[10:25] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: i am using kubuntu
[10:25] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: with wine?
[10:25] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes
[10:26] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: if there is none given, it is usually extracted to C:/temp - wheter it is wine or windows, it doesnt matter... or just tell me, what does exist inside $HOME/.wine/drive_c/
[10:26] <gatekeeper> james_xxx: so go to wine and start winzip up
[10:26] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: ure sure?
[10:26] <Ardarandir> gatekeeper: he hasnt got winzip so far, as i understood it!
[10:26] <mcrandello> I've done that with self-extractors in windows to use winrar or 7zip
[10:27] <gatekeeper> Ardarandir: that would probable work too :-)
[10:27] <mcrandello> it *may* work in linux
[10:27] <james_xxx> brb
[10:27] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: first of all you have to create an security-copie of your .exe-File!
[10:27] <mcrandello> afaik most self extractors are a small executable at the very beginning of a .zip file, and the whole kit is renamed to an exe
[10:27] <Ardarandir> sounds logical
[10:27] <james_xxx> module not found lol
[10:27] <mcrandello> worst case you can just change the extension back
[10:28] <Ardarandir> in winXP i did it once, too, i remember..
[10:28] <james_xxx> ok i am totally lost
[10:28] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: do copy it first is always the right ide ;)
[10:28] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: correct!
[10:28] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: you did a security copy?
[10:28] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: no i didn't
[10:28] <mcrandello> the security copy is where you got it from ;P
[10:29] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: do it!
[10:29] <james_xxx> i do not know what you are telling me to do
[10:29] <Ardarandir> mcrandello: you never know...
[10:29] <mcrandello> true
[10:29] <gatekeeper> I am sure you are right!
[10:30] <james_xxx> explain to me whay i need to copy the .exe file?
[10:30] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: just do a copy of you file to another directory!
[10:30] <Ardarandir> james_xxx: to restore it in case sth goes wrong!
[10:30] <Ardarandir> argh
[10:30] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: i can just download it again
[10:30] <Ardarandir> kk
[10:30] <Ardarandir> so plz
[10:30] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip
[10:31] <mcrandello> james_xxx: change the filename from foo.exe to foo.zip then just click on it
[10:31] <james_xxx> foo?
[10:31] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip!
[10:31] <mcrandello> where "foo" is the part of the filename in front of .exe
[10:31] <Ardarandir> just rename the file from .exe to .zip! <---
[10:31] <mcrandello> james_xxx: you'll see "foo" a lot in linux howtos, it's a variable of sorts
[10:32] <james_xxx> ok, it is now a .zip
[10:32] <mcrandello> now click that puppy
[10:32] <james_xxx> click on it?
[10:32] <james_xxx> k
[10:32] <Ardarandir> just try to unzip it...
[10:32] <Ardarandir> should work
[10:33] <ninHer> hi all
[10:33] <james_xxx> Ardarandir: ok it unzipped
[10:33] <gatekeeper> woohoo!
[10:33] <gatekeeper> nice one mcrandello
[10:34] <james_xxx> all of this to get some crappy usb wireless adapter to work, that probably has no chance.... lol
[10:34] <mcrandello> once in a while I know an answer :)
[10:34] <james_xxx> lol
[10:34] <james_xxx> ty mcrandello
[10:34] <roadrunner> msg nickserv identify covalt9681
[10:34] <Ardarandir> great mcrandello :)
[10:34] <mcrandello> this is the windows wireless driver?
[10:34] <Ardarandir> lol
[10:34] <james_xxx> mcrandello: yes
[10:34] <mcrandello> I can almost gaurantee it won't
[10:34] <james_xxx> mcrandello: some people have got it to work on other systems
[10:35] <Ardarandir> roadrunner_: i would propose to change your pw by now *lol*
[10:35] <mcrandello> let us know if it does
[10:35] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: would need ndiswrapper wouldn't he?
[10:35] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: yes
[10:35] <mcrandello> oic what you're saying
[10:35] <Ardarandir> i guess i better stick with the german #kubuntu-de channel *smile*
[10:35] <james_xxx> it is a linksys WUSB54GS v.4
[10:35] <Ardarandir> good bye :=
[10:35] <mcrandello> it's like those scanner drivers with sane that require the firmware to work
[10:36] <james_xxx> Ardarandir:  dein englisch ist perfekt
[10:36] <mcrandello> anyone running xgl?
[10:39] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: I think there is a conversation taking place about XGL in #ubuntu
[10:39] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: thx
[10:40] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: hope I am right :-)
[10:40] <afm\colossus> anyone in here with an ASUS A8S-X mainboard?
[10:40] <tmdx120> Hello all!
[10:40] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: they just got told to go to ubuntu-xgl ehe
[10:41] <tmdx120> Im having trouble getting my wireless 2100 pci laptop card to work. Any ideas?
[10:45] <james_xxx> ok, one more question about zip archives..... i am wanting to use a driver that is in that file that i just unzipped. when ndiswrapper asks for the driver location, i still do not know what to tell it....
[10:49] <james_xxx> gatekeeper: you think you could help me with this?
[10:49] <james_xxx> or anyone?
[10:50] <mcrandello> james_xxx: where did you unzip it
[10:50] <mcrandello> are the files all on your desktop?
[10:51] <james_xxx> mcrandello: no, they are not on my desktop
[10:51] <mcrandello> where was the zip file?
[10:51] <james_xxx> in a folder i made named /wifi
[10:52] <mcrandello> open up a terminal
[10:52] <james_xxx> opened
[10:53] <mcrandello> cd /wifi
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> BAZIL LOST !!!!!!!
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> I feel so bad..
[10:53] <james_xxx> after i unzipped, a window cam up with a list of all the extracted contents, and at the top it says 'file///home/james/wifi/F5D7051.zip - Ark'
[10:53] <|lostbyte|> :(
[10:54] <james_xxx> ok i did the cd
[10:54] <mcrandello> type ls
[10:55] <james_xxx> mcrandello: that is what i was afraid of, all it lists is the .zip folder
[10:55] <ninHer> i need a non-spanish girlfriend
[10:55] <ninHer> any kde software for that issue ?
[10:55] <ninHer> ;-)
[10:55] <mcrandello> type unzip F5D7051.zip
[10:55] <james_xxx> ninHer: i need a non-chinese one, maybe we can trade
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> ninHer, yeah ! kdegirlfriend :P
[10:56] <ninHer> uhmm, i'll think about it
[10:56] <mcrandello> then try ls again
[10:56] <afm\colossus> i need a non-virtual one
[10:56] <afm\colossus> anyone interested?
[10:56] <james_xxx> afm\colossus: i think i need to upgrade to a virtual one
[10:56] <ninHer> ok, if you find one, let me know
[10:56] <james_xxx> :-D
[10:57] <|lostbyte|> My girfriend is broken.. need a new one..
[10:57] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: no one able to help you with xgl?
[10:57] <james_xxx> mcrandello: ok , i did that
[10:57] <ninHer> well, mine is perfect; that's why i need a new one
[10:58] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: it's like I'm the only one with this problem
[10:58] <ninHer> may be i am lucky in the next lan party here in spain
[10:58] <mcrandello> james_xxx: it showing the files?
[10:58] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: sorry :-(
[10:58] <james_xxx> mcrandello: ok that was  a big help... yes, it shows them
[10:58] <mcrandello> alright now type "pwd"
[10:59] <mcrandello> then higlight what it tells you
[10:59] <mcrandello> and then go back to where it wants the directory they're in and then click with the _middle_ mouse button
[10:59] <james_xxx> mcrandello: oops, i already added the .inf to ndiswrapper
[10:59] <mcrandello> oh
[11:00] <mcrandello> whatever works :)
[11:00] <mcrandello> if you're going to have more than one user on the machine you may want to make a directory at the top level called /opt and put them in s subdirectory of that
[11:00] <mcrandello> like /opt/wirelessdrivers
[11:01] <lib8264q> hi can someone help me with a ? reguarding  kde-core install
[11:01] <james_xxx> brb, i need to reboot... it does not see the wireless adapter (which will probably not work anyways)
[11:01] <lib8264q> whats the command used to install ( from the kubuntu cd)
[11:01] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, no we wont.. !!
[11:02] <lib8264q> lol
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, just joking..
[11:02] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, Ask ! some one will know..
[11:02] <lib8264q> kool ....
[11:02] <mcrandello> james_xxx: it might work
[11:02] <mcrandello> lib8264q: there's no "install" icon on the desktop?
[11:03] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, everything on the kubuntu cd is alreasdy installed.. anything else can we installed over repos..
[11:03] <mcrandello> oh I thought he meant from the livecd nm
[11:04] <lib8264q> no .... i tell you what it is ... only way to get it installled ... dont know why  but its the only way  is do a server install first then install tyhe desktop  seems starnge ... but trust me   its the only way it goes in live cd crashes
[11:05] <mcrandello> I was having some livecd issues as well, this was the dapper beta gnome cd though
[11:06] <lib8264q> naw even with teh alternat if i try a stright  install it crashes  i have to do it in sep stages ....
[11:06] <lib8264q> then it installs ...#
[11:06] <lib8264q> ????????????????
[11:06] <lib8264q> but im trying to just install the kde-core desktop
[11:07] <gatekeeper> lib8264q: I had a bad maxtor hdd which caused dapper to crash on installation, but the old text breezy installer worked, replaced it for a seagate and it installed fine
[11:07] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, what are you using then, right now ?
[11:08] <lib8264q> xp box
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, Dont you have the kubuntu cd ?
[11:08] <lib8264q> yep
[11:08] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, slip it in and install from boot.
[11:08] <lib8264q> i want to have just the core desktop
[11:09] <lib8264q> aptitude install kubuntu-desktop ... puts  in a lot of stuff ill never use ...
[11:09] <mcrandello> you can remove the stuff you don't want
[11:09] <mcrandello> it'll say it's removing "kde-desktop" but that's just a  metapackage
[11:10] <lib8264q> iv tried aptitude kde-core kdm and kde loads but then gives errors
[11:10] <Chryseus> how about kdebase?
[11:10] <lib8264q> yeap as well
[11:10] <lib8264q> new there was one missing  lol
[11:11] <lib8264q> but its  givinig  2 errors
[11:11] <lib8264q> cant open theme file /usr/share apps/kde/themes/kubuntu
[11:12] <lib8264q>  and xsession unable to start xsession
[11:12] <lib8264q> any ideas
[11:12] <lib8264q> ?
[11:13] <lib8264q> im new to kubuntu  ... so dont know where the problems lie ... if it was dos  or xp would not be a prob...
[11:14] <lib8264q> linux /unix commands arent that great
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> ?
[11:15] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, huh ?
[11:15] <SpAwN> hello all anyone know if there is a list of all supported sound cards??.....i tried the live dvd and i had no sound...i wanna see if i can get it working b4 i consider installing kubuntu
[11:15] <DaSkreech> arso: Morning
[11:16] <|lostbyte|> SpAwN, what sound card ?
[11:16] <ChrisCoolie> hello from Germany!
[11:16] <lib8264q> lol  np ... but  still dosent change the fact as far as this  o/s is concerned im a noobo ;)
[11:16] <Ahmuck> lib8264q: if you were new to a humvee and did not know all the controls does not make it less great
[11:16] <SpAwN> lspci says its this: 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[11:16] <DaSkreech> ChrisCoolie: Hallo!
[11:16] <Ahmuck> lib8264q: what are you problems ?
[11:17] <SpAwN> i had the same prob of not being able to set up my sound card on centos and ubuntu a while back
[11:17] <lib8264q> im trying to be clever .... and just install the kde-core desktop
[11:17] <lib8264q> but when it loading im getting to errors
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, what is loading.. KDE ?
[11:17] <lib8264q> yep
[11:17] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, error in a window ?
[11:18] <Ahmuck> pastebin.com
[11:18] <lib8264q> kde starts to load up then gives cant open theme file  ....
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> lib8264q, go to themes can chage to defualt.
[11:19] <lib8264q> is default
[11:19] <mcrandello> lib8264q: apt-cache search kde|grep theme see if you can find the package it wants
[11:19] <lib8264q> cool....
[11:19] <mcrandello> | takes the output from the first command and then runs the second on it
[11:20] <mcrandello> grep is a fun command you can use to find strings with
[11:20] <DaSkreech> !bash
[11:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:21] <ChrisCoolie> i am familiar with debian (and parts) but i like to use the (k )desktop...
[11:22] <DaSkreech> ok When I mount something if it can't read the superblock is that bad?
[11:22] <ChrisCoolie> ... so is usual to 'switch' to kubuntu?
[11:22] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: yes :)
[11:22] <zorglu1> the mount wont work
[11:22] <ChrisCoolie> there is no "it" in the sentence
[11:23] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Yes but does that mean I have a new doorstop?
[11:23] <zorglu1> doorstrop ?
[11:23] <lib8264q> sorry be a few mins  ... someones just called ...
[11:23] <ChrisCoolie> Short question: is there a german language channel with the topic _kubuntu_?
[11:24] <kbrooks> OK, Ubuntu Community. We all should testt EasyUbuntu (use it). if it doesn't work, file a bug at https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu. Version to test: 3.02.1, available at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> !de
[11:24] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:24] <zorglu1>  #kubuntu-de has currently 34personns on it
[11:24] <ChrisCoolie> Danke sehr, thank you :)
[11:25] <kbrooks> sehr?
[11:25] <larson9999> thanks really
[11:25] <kbrooks> i thought danke was enough for a "thank you". what does it really mean?
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: #kanotix is pretty good if you speak german (most things are the same between debian sid and kubuntu)
[11:25] <ChrisCoolie> In german, often the word "sehr" is used with "Danke"
[11:25] <legout> hi. anybody can tell me, how i can set me WLAN card in monitoring mode? Ive got centrino laptop
[11:25] <kbrooks> ChrisCoolie: meaning?
[11:25] <zorglu1> danke sehr = thanks a lot/very much i guess
[11:26] <ChrisCoolie> ok
[11:26] <larson9999> yep
[11:26] <zorglu1> sehr is very, from memory :)
[11:26] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Door stp :-P :-)
[11:26] <ChrisCoolie> okay to language topics ;)
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> legout, sudo iwconfig <device> essid <name> mode monitor
[11:27] <threnody> legout: I believe that the centrino chip doesn't allow promiscuous mode.
[11:27] <|lostbyte|> legout, why do you want that ?
[11:27] <ChrisCoolie> i read the distri kanotix comes from knoppix (on its official site)
[11:27] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: What's the superblock it can't read?
[11:27] <legout> |lostbyte|: just wanna test how "save" my wlan is
[11:27] <nixternal> !pastebin
[11:27] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:28] <|lostbyte|> threnody, it mostly dep on the wlan card.
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: It uses debian sid repostories if you install it
[11:28] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: a super block is the 'main' block, the 'root' block, the block from wich the whole filesystem derives
[11:28] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: So Not being able toread it means what? the Drive is dead?
[11:28] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: my guess is that you got either the partition name wrong or the fs type you gave is wrong
[11:28] <mcrandello> it could mean you specified the wrong filesystem type
[11:29] <threnody> lostbyte: most pcmcia cards will allow promiscuous mode, but I believe Intel's motherboard centrino chipset will not.
[11:29] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: most likely no :) it is simply an error in the command you gave
[11:29] <mcrandello> if it's a windows drive something like "mount -t fat" or "mount -t ntfs"
[11:29] <DaSkreech> zorglu1: Ok :( vfat
[11:29] <ChrisCoolie> i'd like to use a system that's on one hand site actual but mostly stable as possible
[11:31] <ChrisCoolie> until december 2005 i used sarge, then i tested etch
[11:31] <DaSkreech> seems strange though I used the same command to mount last week
[11:31] <ChrisCoolie> but i'm unsure about sid repositories and stability
[11:32] <zorglu1> ChrisCoolie: stability and uptodate are not really compatible :)
[11:32] <ChrisCoolie> i know that.
[11:32] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: What I am saying is if you want to ask a question in german about kubuntu if you ask it in #kanotix the answer will most likely be the same
[11:33] <zorglu1> DaSkreech: it would help you to get help, if you tried to explain clearly what you want/do/have etc...
[11:33] <DaSkreech> I have a script that mounts my partitions
[11:33] <DaSkreech> I ran it today and it threw that error
[11:33] <ChrisCoolie> debian makes it possible either to use stable or the stages until messed up
[11:34] <DaSkreech> I'm going to reboot soon and see if the drive got detached somehow
[11:35] <ChrisCoolie> so, the final question is: which debian based comes mostly to the middle?
[11:35] <DaSkreech> Etch?
[11:36] <ChrisCoolie> my hardware is not so actual, but stable ;)
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> kubuntu is stable but the system feels less responsive than with sid or etch
[11:37] <DaSkreech> I guess you can tune down somestuff
[11:37] <DaSkreech> Like having katapult on by default
[11:38] <ChrisCoolie> My newest Etch DVD is from december 2005. either i load and burn the newest (as i did a few days ago ;) )
[11:39] <ChrisCoolie> ... or i use the elder and make a bigger update
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade (what is wrong with that or is there a change of xorg version or something inbetween)
[11:40] <ChrisCoolie> in etch you login root
[11:40] <macconline> hi....
[11:40] <macconline> i have a problem
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> I have been using sudo for ages (before I used ubuntu) so I just enable it on debian
[11:41] <macconline> con el process Xorg... after of ps aux... see this:
[11:41] <ChrisCoolie> but the big etch' update messes up if i don't be care
[11:41] <Armagguedes> hello
[11:41] <macconline> line of process: /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ
[11:41] <Armagguedes> i just updated my dapper (i had 4 updates), and now my system keeps hanging
[11:41] <ChrisCoolie> apt hat Superkuh-Krfte ;)
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> ChrisCoolie: I can imagine
[11:42] <macconline> this using 28.4% of memory
[11:43] <macconline> help me
[11:43] <Armagguedes> i was thinking of reformating, considering my system comes from a Flight Dapper
[11:44] <ChrisCoolie> now i go to the neighbours - cu
[11:44] <ChrisCoolie> where german speaking
[11:45] <ChrisCoolie> bye
[11:47] <marty_> some antivir for kubuntu?
[11:48] <marty_> witch is the best?
[11:48] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: have you tried going into #ubuntu-xgl (just a thought) ?
[11:48] <mcrandello> Armagguedes: you don't have a laptop with a radeon 200m do you?
[11:48] <mcrandello> gatekeeper: I'm in there right now :)
[11:48] <gatekeeper> mcrandello: cool :-)
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> mcrandello: The latest version of fglrx provides much  better support for your card if you are having problems
[11:49] <mcrandello> h3sp4wn: yes Im using 8.26.18 atm and it freezes a lot less
[11:50] <Armagguedes> man my laptop (acer) is making a lot of strange noises (lots of clicking). They seem to come from the CPU area. Any ideas what those might be?
[11:50] <mcrandello> Armagguedes' problem sounded familiar though :)
[11:50] <Armagguedes> ati m11/9700
[11:50] <Armagguedes> it only started AFTER updating
[11:51] <mcrandello> yeah I reformatted and after updating started having a lot more frequent freezes
[11:51] <zorglu1> Armagguedes: my guess is it is from your cpu fan
[11:51] <mcrandello> now I'm using 8.26.18 and dapper beta and I've been very careful NOT to update anything related to the kernel, the USB system or anything low level
[11:52] <mcrandello> and it seems to have kept if from returning
[11:52] <Armagguedes> the busted updates were GnuPG and a *lib, i dont remember which (but there were 3 of these, same category/file, but different types)
[11:53] <mcrandello> the one thing on my wishlist (other than for the radeon drivers to be better) is a rollback feature in adept
[11:53] <DaSkreech> macconline: Hello?
[11:53] <mcrandello> of course I heard ATI is about to come out with some workstation cards soon so maybe the drivers will start getting better
[11:54] <macconline> DaSkreech: ??
[11:54] <macconline> you see my problem?
[11:54] <DaSkreech> macconline: Whats the problem?
[11:54] <macconline> the process Xorg use much memory
[11:55] <slow-motion> n8
[11:55] <macconline> of 3% RAM --->>> 70% in four hours
[11:55] <macconline> root      5174  1.0 28.4 226208 220992 tty7    RLs+ 15:16   1:25 /usr/bin/X -br -nolisten tcp :0 vt7 -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-SSmzCJ
[11:55] <DaSkreech> Alt+Ctrl+BkSpc?
[11:55] <macconline> this is a line of ps aux, you see 28.4 % ram
[11:56] <macconline> DaSkreech: yes, but again
[11:56] <afm\colossus> macconline: unless you don't grasp linux virtual memory allocation, please, don't try fiddling around with it ;)
[11:57] <DaSkreech> macconline: How much RAMdo you have?
[11:57] <flosch> hi all
[11:57] <macconline> 768,
[11:57] <flosch> little questions ... how can i refresh the apt-package system and how can i configure the sources apt should use?
[11:58] <ubuntu_> hi
[11:58] <gatekeeper> flosch: apt-update
[11:58] <flosch> a KDE GUI?
[11:58] <jpatrick> flosch: Adept
[11:58] <DaSkreech> !sources > flosch
[11:59] <DaSkreech> ubuntu: Hello
[11:59] <flosch> jpatrick: Mhm ... Can't find any option to configure the sources in Adept... :-(
[11:59] <gatekeeper> flosch: have a look at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:59] <DaSkreech> flosch: Open Adept -> Adept Menu -> Manager Repositories
[11:59] <DaSkreech> Manage :(
[11:59] <macconline> DaSkreech: i do not that are
[12:00] <DaSkreech> macconline: sorry?
[12:00] <macconline> my english is bad....
[12:00] <flosch> DaSkreech: there is no option like this one
[12:00] <macconline> how solutins this problem?
[12:00] <flosch> Da
[12:00] <flosch> -Da
[12:01] <DaSkreech> flosch: You know the menu adept at the top left of the application?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> macconline: I'm not sure have you done any modifications to the X setup?
[12:01] <DaSkreech> macconline: Have you changed Xorg's configuration ?
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: yeah.. there's no entry like "Manage Repositories" or something like that
[12:02] <macconline> only is that i have monitor + tv...
[12:02] <ubuntu_> Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.
[12:02] <DaSkreech> flosch: What do you have there?
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: only "Close" ... to close the app ... nothing else
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: just installed a fresh kubuntu ..
[12:02] <flosch> DaSkreech: so this is my first kubuntu boot
[12:02] <DaSkreech> flosch: 5.10 or 6.06?
[12:02] <flosch> 6.06
[12:02] <macconline> DaSkreech: only nvidia out and monitor...
[12:03] <flosch> DaSkreech: Adept 2.0 Destroyer
[12:03] <macconline> but before that this.... equal
[12:03] <Garnol> Can someone answer a noob questions in a privat chat ?? (who?)
[12:03] <DaSkreech> macconline: I'm not sure what the problem is. I've not played around with Dual monitors so I don't ven know if that is normal :(
[12:03] <DaSkreech> Garnol: Just ask
[12:04] <gatekeeper> garnol just ask
[12:04] <DaSkreech> !ask
[12:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:04] <Lynoure> Garnol: asking on the channel is usually most efficient. No one will laugh at you.
[12:04] <DaSkreech> flosch: What do you have under the edit menu?
[12:04] <ubuntu_> Oh yeah, my Kubuntu install's broke.   I just loaded it of a 6.06LTS ISO.  It was working fine, I installed some fairly standard packages, did a dist-upgrade, and now it's broke.  The bootsplash comes up, and it says it's loadinf CUPS and stuff like that, then it finishes and you get to the part where KDM should should up, and it's just a blank black screen with a gray cursor in the top left corner, not even a shell prompt.
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: Undo and Redo
[12:05] <DaSkreech> flosch: Ok How about Under View?
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: Show changes
[12:05] <DaSkreech> And just that?
[12:05] <flosch> ya
[12:05] <flosch> DaSkreech: (translated from german into english, .. my adept is in german language)
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !broken
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about broken
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !noboot
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about noboot
[12:06] <ubuntu_> !boot
[12:06] <ubotu> Boot options: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a bootfloppy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:07] <DaSkreech> !fish
[12:07] <ubotu> I know nothing about fish
[12:07] <DaSkreech> !fishing
[12:07] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[12:07] <gatekeeper> ubuntu_: are you happy to reinstall ? why did you do a dist-upgrade?