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froudOther than using About Ubuntu. Is there a way for a user to determine the operating system version information via a GNOME GUI app? Something like the info displayed via KControl in KDE?12:17
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mdkefroud: not that I know of12:18
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froudmdke: what about details of the kernel version?12:21
mdkefroud: nope, don't think so. But if you ask in a Gnome channel you might get more reliable information12:22
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froud:-) If you dont know then I dont think they will do better12:23
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cosmolaxhello.04:57
robotgeekhi cosmolax 04:59
cosmolaxa moment ago, I reEdit the section "Ubuntu Dapper Installfest In Taiwan" in the UWN issue #5 draft.04:59
cosmolaxI just remove the duplicate hyperlink of the article.05:00
cosmolaxThat's because the writer use another wiki system but not moinmoin. sorry for that.05:00
robotgeekcosmolax: sure, thanks :)05:01
robotgeeki think the links are slightly messed up, i will fix05:02
cosmolaxrobotgeek: thank you.05:02
robotgeekcosmolax: refresh :)05:07
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cosmolaxrobotgeek: looks much great. :)05:18
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robotgeekcosmolax: cool :). good luck with installfest!05:20
cosmolaxrobotgeek: I wish.:)05:23
cosmolaxrobotgeek: the party place is small, but people signuped have been exploded. LoL05:24
robotgeekthat is good news!05:24
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cosmolaxrobotgeek: in the beginnig, we thought maybe 30 people would be good enough, then, Wow! so many people interesting of Ubuntu ! :)05:27
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nixternalwith the packaging guide pdf..is there a way to print 4 pages on one sheet of paper, book style/front to back?07:11
Madpilotthat depends on which PDF viewer you're using, I think07:12
nixternalim looking at kpdf..which seems rather ummm...feature lacking07:12
Madpilottry Adobe Acrobat Reader - it's a giant pig, but it's still the most complete PDF reader going07:12
Madpilotit's in Multiverse - look for acroread07:12
nixternalim trying that one now07:12
nixternali got the latest and greatest version of that pig07:13
nixternalas the local college uses pdf for all documentation07:13
nixternalso i am rather used to the #@$#07:13
nixternali will however..try to get them to switch to svn and docbooks in the xml class next fall07:13
MadpilotEvince is pretty good - it's Gnome's default viewer - but acroread is still the standard07:13
nixternalwell...my idea is actually more work then what i would like..i will just print double sided...that will work for what i need07:17
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mdkemorning10:33
Madpilothi mdke 10:33
mdkehiya10:33
MadpilotHappy Canada Day ;)10:33
mdkeah, same to you10:33
tonyyarussoSort of morning10:33
Madpilot0135 is technically morning10:34
mdkeMadpilot: btw #redirect only does pages within the same wiki, you need "#refresh # url" for urls10:34
Madpilotah, cool10:34
Madpilotthanks10:34
mdkehow should I celebrate canada day?10:37
Madpilotget sunburned & drunk, then sing "Oh Canada" off key10:38
mdkesimilar to English celebrations, except a different song10:38
Madpilotbut only the first verse, in English then French, because nobody even knows the rest of the versee ;)10:38
Madpilots/versee/verses10:38
mdkeI saw some English football fans recently who had sunburn on their chests in the form of the English flag10:39
mdkeflair10:39
Madpilotthat takes dedication - and careful application of sunblock10:40
tonyyarussoI might know them if I thought about it actually...10:40
Madpilottonyyarusso, what, the 2nd & subsequent verses of "Oh Canada"?10:41
tonyyarussoMadpilot: Yeah.  Or at least I did at one time.10:41
tonyyarussoLearned them for when our minor league baseball team was playing Winnipeg.10:41
MadpilotI've grown up in this country, and I've never known them. Not sure I've ever even heard them... ;)10:42
Madpilotat school we did the 1st verse, in both languages, and that was it10:42
Madpilotthen "Dog Shave the Queen" in English at the end of our school assemblies10:43
tonyyarussoHehe10:44
mdkedisgraceful10:44
Madpilotoh, sorry... I meant "God Save...etc" :)10:44
tonyyarussoThey did all of the verses every morning at the school I had my placement in for con-ed, and I was just starting to get the hang of it when they started doing them in French instead.10:45
mdkeno respect these canadians10:45
Madpilotmdke, Lizzie's a lovely woman, it's the rest of her family that worries me :)10:45
MadpilotI'm a monarchist by default, because we've got one now and it mostly works10:45
mdkeindeed10:46
mdkefor most definitions of works10:46
Madpilotfor the definition that includes "Look what having a President has gotten our good friends to the south of us"10:46
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mdkeheh10:47
mdkeyelp has got a caching thing in cvs which might speed it up quite a lot10:52
mdkehope so10:53
Madpilotnice10:53
MadpilotYelp does need some love in the speed department, even in Dapper10:53
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MadpilotDammit, I wish people could spell "Ubuntu" right...11:49
Madpilothaving to fix a bunch of pages in help.u.c/c because someone can't spell...11:49
robhehe thats funny, its at the top in big black letters on every page11:51
Madpilotit's the name of the damn distro, FFS, you'd think people would *check*...11:52
Madpilothttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromLinux <-- massive chunks of this could probably just die, and be replaced by links to the actual pages on the various topics12:01
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dsashttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation has a "Laptops" link right at the bottom which points to LaptopTestingTeam. Should this link be aimed at w.u.c/LaptopTestingTeam or just scrapped?12:22
Madpilotaim it at wuc/LaptopTestingTeam, and expand the text in huc/c/UserDoc to explain a bit more, I'd say....12:23
dsas"Reports on using Ubuntu on portable computers." ?12:25
dsashmm, all my page subscriptions have gone.12:27
dsasMadpilot: Who do I need to talk to too get page deletion privs?12:28
Madpilotdsas, mdke, for now12:29
Madpilotare you a WikiTeam member in LP?12:29
dsasnope.12:29
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Madpilotyou on DocTeam in LP?12:29
dsasnope. I presume I need to be a member of one of those first?12:30
Madpilotnot really, but it helps12:31
Madpiloteventually all approved WikiTeam members will automagically have delete/rename privs12:32
dsasok, I'll apply for the wikiteam and catch up with mdke when he's around.12:32
dsasThanks for the help12:33
Madpilotnp12:33
Madpilotyou can always ping here or the ML if you've got a candidate page for deletion12:34
dsasThere's three pages at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Test12:36
Madpilotlooks like they're gone already?12:38
dsashmm, I get three pages teste, testpage1 and testpage2 all linked from the 'Test' page not found search result.12:39
Madpilotah, yeah12:41
Madpilotin the search box, below the "This page does not exist..." line12:41
MadpilotI'll kill those three now12:41
dsasthanks12:42
Madpilotnp12:43
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nixternalmoins05:17
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nixternalthat email burg just sent...he talks about us in #306:35
nixternalhttp://linux-blog.org/index.php?/archives/154-5-Unique-Tips-for-New-Ubuntu-Users.html06:35
nixternali know jjesse has been discussing the topic of the documentation for that06:36
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CarlFKhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten - exists (no longer redirecting to help.ubuntu... ?)07:58
CarlFKhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet has CarlKarsten -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CarlKarsten which is 40407:58
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nixternalpersonel pages aren't to be redirected to h.u.c08:03
CarlFKthat seems to be a chage08:03
nixternalya..personal pages are sticking on w.u.c 08:04
nixternali see though with the @SIG@ it shows h.u.c/c/WikiName08:04
CarlFKthat means all the links to them that are now on h.u.c are broken ?08:04
nixternalif it is from the @SIG@ feature then yes..unless we recreate our personal pages on h.u.c and #refresh 0 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ourpage08:05
nixternali don' tknow if they want that on the h.u.c though08:05
CarlFKbleck08:06
nixternalmdke can probably have the sig feature fixed so that it goes to w.u.c instead08:06
CarlFKI can see why.. but I think it is too late08:06
nixternalthat @SIG@ is just a macro..probably python scripted...08:06
nixternalwell im sure it is in python since moinmoin is python ;)08:06
CarlFKshould I post anything about to the -doc list of LP?08:07
CarlFKor is it 'known issue' 08:07
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nixternalyou are the first to bring it up08:08
nixternali would post it08:08
CarlFKwill do08:08
nixternaldefinately is valid..as i have yet to notice it ;)08:08
CarlFKdo you know what db the pages are stored in? 08:10
CarlFKmysql, bdb... dir of textfiles..08:10
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CarlFKnixternal: what is this @SIG@ you speak of?08:15
CarlFKguessing I should use it08:15
nixternaloh..it is a macro that posts your name, date, and time when you post...08:16
nixternalhmm..i can't see what moinmoin uses for db08:16
nixternali don't see anything about it at all on the moinmoin install site08:16
CarlFKhuh - I asked on the -doc list, 08:17
CarlFKpart of the "delete CatDoc" thread 08:17
CarlFKif it is written "well" you can pick a db08:17
nixternalmpt made a good point on the CatDoc stuff about deleting them when you do work on the pages08:18
CarlFKwhich means it is up to the person who installed it08:18
CarlFKyeah - I don't really care about the CatDoc issue  - but if I can help a bunch of editors focus on something useful ... good. ;)08:19
nixternali went through the other night with some free time and removed a bunch of pages from the CatDoc...I emailed the list letting them know..not a good idea ;)08:19
nixternalexactly08:19
nixternali hear your point there08:19
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