=== Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:17] Other than using About Ubuntu. Is there a way for a user to determine the operating system version information via a GNOME GUI app? Something like the info displayed via KControl in KDE? === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-11.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-207.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:18] froud: not that I know of === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-251-11.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] [12:21] mdke: what about details of the kernel version? [12:22] froud: nope, don't think so. But if you ask in a Gnome channel you might get more reliable information === mdke double bed [12:23] :-) If you dont know then I dont think they will do better === LaserJock_ [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === LaserJock_ [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === LaserJock_ [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud is now known as froud-away === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-99-206.pskn.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _sara [n=sara@pool-70-106-99-206.pskn.east.verizon.net] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-207.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-207.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"] === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyaru1so [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.107.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:57] hello. [04:59] hi cosmolax [04:59] a moment ago, I reEdit the section "Ubuntu Dapper Installfest In Taiwan" in the UWN issue #5 draft. [05:00] I just remove the duplicate hyperlink of the article. [05:00] That's because the writer use another wiki system but not moinmoin. sorry for that. [05:01] cosmolax: sure, thanks :) [05:02] i think the links are slightly messed up, i will fix [05:02] robotgeek: thank you. [05:07] cosmolax: refresh :) === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:18] robotgeek: looks much great. :) === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:20] cosmolax: cool :). good luck with installfest! [05:23] robotgeek: I wish.:) [05:24] robotgeek: the party place is small, but people signuped have been exploded. LoL [05:24] that is good news! === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.107.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:27] robotgeek: in the beginnig, we thought maybe 30 people would be good enough, then, Wow! so many people interesting of Ubuntu ! :) === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Madpilot [n=brian@S0106001150603f7d.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:11] with the packaging guide pdf..is there a way to print 4 pages on one sheet of paper, book style/front to back? [07:12] that depends on which PDF viewer you're using, I think [07:12] im looking at kpdf..which seems rather ummm...feature lacking [07:12] try Adobe Acrobat Reader - it's a giant pig, but it's still the most complete PDF reader going [07:12] it's in Multiverse - look for acroread [07:12] im trying that one now [07:13] i got the latest and greatest version of that pig [07:13] as the local college uses pdf for all documentation [07:13] so i am rather used to the #@$# [07:13] i will however..try to get them to switch to svn and docbooks in the xml class next fall [07:13] Evince is pretty good - it's Gnome's default viewer - but acroread is still the standard [07:17] well...my idea is actually more work then what i would like..i will just print double sided...that will work for what i need === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@dialup-4.159.11.107.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === robitaille [i=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has joined #ubuntu-doc === rob [i=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob1] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mpt_ [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === gaz00 [n=gaz00@S01060015e96c00db.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:33] morning [10:33] hi mdke [10:33] hiya [10:33] Happy Canada Day ;) [10:33] ah, same to you [10:33] Sort of morning [10:34] 0135 is technically morning [10:34] Madpilot: btw #redirect only does pages within the same wiki, you need "#refresh # url" for urls [10:34] ah, cool [10:34] thanks [10:37] how should I celebrate canada day? [10:38] get sunburned & drunk, then sing "Oh Canada" off key [10:38] similar to English celebrations, except a different song [10:38] but only the first verse, in English then French, because nobody even knows the rest of the versee ;) [10:38] s/versee/verses [10:39] I saw some English football fans recently who had sunburn on their chests in the form of the English flag [10:39] flair [10:40] that takes dedication - and careful application of sunblock [10:40] I might know them if I thought about it actually... [10:41] tonyyarusso, what, the 2nd & subsequent verses of "Oh Canada"? [10:41] Madpilot: Yeah. Or at least I did at one time. [10:41] Learned them for when our minor league baseball team was playing Winnipeg. [10:42] I've grown up in this country, and I've never known them. Not sure I've ever even heard them... ;) [10:42] at school we did the 1st verse, in both languages, and that was it [10:43] then "Dog Shave the Queen" in English at the end of our school assemblies [10:44] Hehe [10:44] disgraceful [10:44] oh, sorry... I meant "God Save...etc" :) [10:45] They did all of the verses every morning at the school I had my placement in for con-ed, and I was just starting to get the hang of it when they started doing them in French instead. [10:45] no respect these canadians [10:45] mdke, Lizzie's a lovely woman, it's the rest of her family that worries me :) [10:45] I'm a monarchist by default, because we've got one now and it mostly works [10:46] indeed [10:46] for most definitions of works [10:46] for the definition that includes "Look what having a President has gotten our good friends to the south of us" === klepas [n=klepas@203-213-31-142.static.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-doc [10:47] heh [10:52] yelp has got a caching thing in cvs which might speed it up quite a lot [10:53] hope so [10:53] nice [10:53] Yelp does need some love in the speed department, even in Dapper === mpt__ [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc [11:49] Dammit, I wish people could spell "Ubuntu" right... [11:49] having to fix a bunch of pages in help.u.c/c because someone can't spell... [11:51] hehe thats funny, its at the top in big black letters on every page [11:52] it's the name of the damn distro, FFS, you'd think people would *check*... [12:01] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromLinux <-- massive chunks of this could probably just die, and be replaced by links to the actual pages on the various topics === sladen [i=paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === dsas [n=dean@host86-129-18-207.range86-129.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:22] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation has a "Laptops" link right at the bottom which points to LaptopTestingTeam. Should this link be aimed at w.u.c/LaptopTestingTeam or just scrapped? [12:23] aim it at wuc/LaptopTestingTeam, and expand the text in huc/c/UserDoc to explain a bit more, I'd say.... [12:25] "Reports on using Ubuntu on portable computers." ? [12:27] hmm, all my page subscriptions have gone. [12:28] Madpilot: Who do I need to talk to too get page deletion privs? [12:29] dsas, mdke, for now [12:29] are you a WikiTeam member in LP? [12:29] nope. === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-255-41.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:29] you on DocTeam in LP? [12:30] nope. I presume I need to be a member of one of those first? [12:31] not really, but it helps [12:32] eventually all approved WikiTeam members will automagically have delete/rename privs [12:32] ok, I'll apply for the wikiteam and catch up with mdke when he's around. [12:33] Thanks for the help [12:33] np [12:34] you can always ping here or the ML if you've got a candidate page for deletion [12:36] There's three pages at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Test [12:38] looks like they're gone already? [12:39] hmm, I get three pages teste, testpage1 and testpage2 all linked from the 'Test' page not found search result. [12:41] ah, yeah [12:41] in the search box, below the "This page does not exist..." line [12:41] I'll kill those three now [12:42] thanks [12:43] np === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-243-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bimberi [n=bimberi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.bimberi] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-243-219.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-249-163.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc === glatzor [n=sebi@ppp-82-135-72-134.dynamic.mnet-online.de] has joined #ubuntu-doc === cosmolax [n=Cosmolax@219-68-130-25.adsl.dynamic.giga.net.tw] has left #ubuntu-doc [] === pygi_ [n=pygi@83-131-251-85.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke_ [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === mdke [n=matt@unaffiliated/matt/x-000000001] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-145-7-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud_ is now known as froud === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD4400C.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:17] moins === mpt [n=mpt@203-173-178-53.bliink.ihug.co.nz] has joined #ubuntu-doc === skora [n=skora@70-39-193-120.clvdoh.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [06:35] that email burg just sent...he talks about us in #3 [06:35] http://linux-blog.org/index.php?/archives/154-5-Unique-Tips-for-New-Ubuntu-Users.html [06:36] i know jjesse has been discussing the topic of the documentation for that === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-232-29.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === CarlFK [n=carl@c-67-163-39-124.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:58] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CarlKarsten - exists (no longer redirecting to help.ubuntu... ?) [07:58] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet has CarlKarsten -> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CarlKarsten which is 404 === tuxmaniac [n=aanjhan@60.254.67.17] has joined #ubuntu-doc === lloydinho [n=andreas@203.Red-83-37-139.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:03] personel pages aren't to be redirected to h.u.c [08:03] that seems to be a chage [08:04] ya..personal pages are sticking on w.u.c [08:04] i see though with the @SIG@ it shows h.u.c/c/WikiName [08:04] that means all the links to them that are now on h.u.c are broken ? [08:05] if it is from the @SIG@ feature then yes..unless we recreate our personal pages on h.u.c and #refresh 0 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ourpage [08:05] i don' tknow if they want that on the h.u.c though [08:06] bleck [08:06] mdke can probably have the sig feature fixed so that it goes to w.u.c instead [08:06] I can see why.. but I think it is too late [08:06] that @SIG@ is just a macro..probably python scripted... [08:06] well im sure it is in python since moinmoin is python ;) [08:07] should I post anything about to the -doc list of LP? [08:07] or is it 'known issue' === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:08] you are the first to bring it up [08:08] i would post it [08:08] will do [08:08] definately is valid..as i have yet to notice it ;) [08:10] do you know what db the pages are stored in? [08:10] mysql, bdb... dir of textfiles.. === linuxmonkey [n=linuxmon@unaffiliated/LinuxMonkey] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:15] nixternal: what is this @SIG@ you speak of? [08:15] guessing I should use it [08:16] oh..it is a macro that posts your name, date, and time when you post... [08:16] hmm..i can't see what moinmoin uses for db [08:16] i don't see anything about it at all on the moinmoin install site [08:17] huh - I asked on the -doc list, [08:17] part of the "delete CatDoc" thread [08:17] if it is written "well" you can pick a db [08:18] mpt made a good point on the CatDoc stuff about deleting them when you do work on the pages [08:18] which means it is up to the person who installed it [08:19] yeah - I don't really care about the CatDoc issue - but if I can help a bunch of editors focus on something useful ... good. ;) [08:19] i went through the other night with some free time and removed a bunch of pages from the CatDoc...I emailed the list letting them know..not a good idea ;) [08:19] exactly [08:19] i hear your point there === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-doc === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud [n=froud@dsl-145-7-07.telkomadsl.co.za] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Konversation] === jd_ [n=jd@wikipedia/Meanos] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nikola [n=pygi@83-131-234-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nikola [n=pygi@83-131-234-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has left #ubuntu-doc ["Leaving"]