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| raphink | might be linked | 12:08 |
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| raphink | but not sure | 12:08 |
| raphink | :s | 12:08 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 12:08 |
| raphink | wb bddebian | 12:09 |
| siretart | bddebian: heyho! | 12:10 |
| siretart | bddebian: you are converting scilab to cdbs, eh? ;) | 12:10 |
| raphink | :) | 12:10 |
| raphink | cdbs! | 12:10 |
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| crimsun | ooh, I like the Updated Merges link | 12:10 |
| bddebian | siretart: It is cdbs :-) | 12:11 |
| bddebian | Hi raphink | 12:11 |
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| bddebian | siretart: I'm just trying to build 4.0 instead of 3.0 | 12:11 |
| phanatic | good night everyone | 12:12 |
| raphink | night phanatic | 12:12 |
| bddebian | Gnight phanatic | 12:12 |
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| LaserJock | crimsun: what link? | 12:18 |
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| bddebian | LaserJock: At the bottom of the merges pages | 12:19 |
| bddebian | I assume | 12:19 |
| bddebian | Shows you updates to merged packages | 12:19 |
| LaserJock | oh, I never reached the bottom before ;-) | 12:20 |
| bddebian | siretart: Want to look at scilab for me? :-) | 12:20 |
| siretart | bddebian: no, but the debian maintainer is wondering about your package.. | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | heh | 12:21 |
| bddebian | siretart: That bad? | 12:21 |
| LaserJock | what debian mainainer? | 12:22 |
| bddebian | And which maintainer? | 12:22 |
| siretart | bddebian: you seem to have forgotten a 'make clean' ;) | 12:22 |
| bddebian | I thought he orphaned it | 12:22 |
| siretart | daniel 'panthera' baumann is preparing a 4.0 upload | 12:22 |
| bddebian | In what year? | 12:23 |
| siretart | oh, now he tells the upstream clean was broken. anyway, its late for me | 12:23 |
| bddebian | siretart: Is he on OFTC? | 12:24 |
| siretart | he is | 12:24 |
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| bddebian | siretart: Would he mind if I talked to him? | 12:25 |
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| siretart | bddebian: just do, I told him to contact you via email | 12:26 |
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| raphink | time to upgrade my server to edgy | 12:52 |
| raphink | tadaaaaa | 12:52 |
| siretart | brave boy.. :) | 12:52 |
| rob | yep, my thoughts too | 12:52 |
| raphink | lol | 12:52 |
| raphink | not my laptop though | 12:52 |
| rob | I'm only just upgrading my chroot for building packages now | 12:52 |
| raphink | mhm | 12:53 |
| raphink | that's what I was doing so far | 12:53 |
| raphink | but my /var disk is dying | 12:53 |
| raphink | so I can't use my chroot anymore | 12:53 |
| raphink | so heh | 12:53 |
| raphink | time to upgrade the server | 12:53 |
| raphink | :) | 12:53 |
| raphink | no choice | 12:53 |
| rob | ouch | 12:53 |
| rob | good, err, luck :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | :) | 12:54 |
| raphink | well it works fine with chroots and pbuilders | 12:54 |
| raphink | so it should be fine | 12:54 |
| siretart | well, edgy is still a kinda 'moving target' | 12:54 |
| siretart | you cannot really predict what gets changed/updated in what way | 12:55 |
| siretart | which I find 'interesting' for servers.. | 12:55 |
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| raphink | yes I know | 12:55 |
| raphink | but it doesn't matter | 12:55 |
| raphink | :) | 12:55 |
| raphink | it's a test server ;) | 12:55 |
| rob | I was just about to say I hope thats not a mission critical server | 12:56 |
| siretart | hm. I could create another xen instance... | 12:56 |
| raphink | rob: no it's just my frontal lol | 12:56 |
| raphink | thing crucial | 12:56 |
| raphink | it's a personal machine | 12:57 |
| rob | ah, still, ouch | 12:57 |
| raphink | I surely wouldn't put my working desktop on edgy | 12:57 |
| rob | yep | 12:59 |
| rob | I was considering setting up a second partition for an edgy desktop to test with, but my poor 40gig hard drive is bursting at the rivets | 01:00 |
| rob | I wonder if I can beg the Minister of War and Finance for another? | 01:01 |
| crimsun | do you have a specific answer in mind? | 01:02 |
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| rob | probably will be "no".. | 01:03 |
| imbrandon | LaserJock, ping | 01:03 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon: pong | 01:03 |
| bddebian | Well, all that scilab work for nothing | 01:04 |
| === raphink is gonna change the kubuntu wallpaper for edgy dev :) | ||
| raphink | just for fun :) | 01:07 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: really? | 01:08 |
| LaserJock | :( | 01:09 |
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| crimsun | why nothing? | 01:09 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Yeah, he is going to do it with debhelper :-) | 01:09 |
| crimsun | ah, well at least it'll get done. | 01:09 |
| bddebian | I guess it was a decent learning experience | 01:09 |
| bddebian | crimsun: We will see :) | 01:09 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: well, he told me it was a week away like in Feb. or something | 01:10 |
| LaserJock | hopefully it will indeed be soon | 01:10 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: I'll annoy the crap out of him like I do crimsun. It'll get done just to shut me up ;-P | 01:14 |
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| LaserJock | bddebian: eeexcelent ;-) | 01:15 |
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| bddebian | Damn, I see crimsun is busy :-) | 01:24 |
| LaserJock | xmakemol! \o/ | 01:37 |
| bddebian | huh? | 01:37 |
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| azeem | ah, new upstream version | 01:38 |
| zul | hey | 01:38 |
| bddebian | Hey zul | 01:39 |
| zul | hey bddebian how goes it | 01:39 |
| bddebian | Fine thanks. You? | 01:40 |
| zul | good | 01:40 |
| bddebian | Ack, gotta run, catch you all later | 01:42 |
| zul | time to test new grub.. | 01:45 |
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| fowlduck | howdy people | 03:34 |
| LaserJock | hi fowlduck | 03:41 |
| jsgotangco | good morning | 03:42 |
| fowlduck | I'm still getting everything setup to start packaging from home, I'll be with ya later LaserJock....MUHAHAHA..... | 03:42 |
| rob | hmmkay | 03:42 |
| fowlduck | sorry, long day | 03:43 |
| rob | :) | 03:43 |
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| Kyral | You ain't going anywhere :P | 03:47 |
| LaserJock | why not? ;p | 03:51 |
| Kyral | Uuuuu | 03:52 |
| Kyral | I because I said so | 03:52 |
| Kyral | thats hwy | 03:52 |
| fowlduck | good enough for me | 03:52 |
| Kyral | yah thats it :P | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | fine | 03:52 |
| === jsgotangco pickpockets LaserJock | ||
| LaserJock | dang, I just got my new credit cards today | 03:52 |
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| jsgotangco | LaserJock: no driver's license yet i assume? | 03:53 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: I got that first, took about 1hr at the dmv | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | I drive a lot so it was pretty important | 03:54 |
| fowlduck | LaserJock, lol | 03:54 |
| fowlduck | I drive a lot, maybe I should get a driver's license | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | it would be bad to not have a license here | 03:56 |
| jsgotangco | well should be anywhere | 03:57 |
| jsgotangco | you could get jailed | 03:57 |
| jsgotangco | well you *should* be jailed driving without one | 03:57 |
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| Erlang | what is the Merge-O-Matic? | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Erlang: Automatically merges packages from Deiban | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Err Debian even | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 04:02 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 04:02 |
| Erlang | okay. | 04:02 |
| jsgotangco | Mom! | 04:02 |
| Erlang | *subject shift*, is there an official form to request a backport? | 04:03 |
| bddebian | Erlang: I think a bug report on LP, but don't quote me | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | there's an LP entry for that | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | Erlang: it's a close relative of Keybuck's ;-) | 04:03 |
| bddebian | hehe | 04:03 |
| jsgotangco | but its mostly backport *fixes* rather than actual backport apps | 04:04 |
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| LaserJock | really? we can't but our crackful edgy stuff in there? ;-) | 04:04 |
| Erlang | okay, so backports are mostly for fixes? | 04:05 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Nah, that's dapper-updates ;-P | 04:05 |
| LaserJock | Erlang: I don't know, if you want it file a bug and see what they say :-) | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | Erlang: according to LP | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | A backport is a fix that is uploaded to an already-released version of a distribution for example, to fix a security vulnerability or critical data-loss bug. | 04:06 |
| jsgotangco | =) | 04:07 |
| Erlang | oh, okay. nevermind then. | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | what? | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | that's not right | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | that's what -security and -updates are fore | 04:07 |
| jsgotangco | LaserJock: file a bug =) | 04:07 |
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| Erlang | It'd be cool to have an authoritative opinion on that... | 04:08 |
| bddebian | Erlang: LaserJock is THE authority around here :-) | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | well, I think the TB is pretty authoritative | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: hah, hardly | 04:09 |
| Erlang | the TB? | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | Technical Board | 04:09 |
| Erlang | ok | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | in a TB meeting not terribly long ago the backporting policy was discussed | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | siretart made a wiki page about it, you might try looking it up | 04:10 |
| jsgotangco | Erlang: if you need the authority on software packaging LaserJock is DA MAN | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | bah | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | what the heck, I'm starting to feel like bddebian | 04:11 |
| jsgotangco | don't be surprised if he makes a dpkg replacement soon =D | 04:11 |
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| Hobbsee | hi all | 04:11 |
| LaserJock | jsgotangco: heh, I don't think so | 04:12 |
| Erlang | I myself wouldn't have any problem being told I'm good. | 04:12 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Why is that? | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Heya Hobbsee | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | hi bddebian :) did my stuff work? | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Worked For Me(TM) | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Didn't they hit the archive? | 04:13 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: yay. no idea, i just turned the computer on | 04:13 |
| bddebian | Ah | 04:14 |
| Hobbsee | and my edgy partition is kinda screwed at the moment | 04:14 |
| LaserJock | noo wayy ;-) | 04:15 |
| === Hobbsee pokes LaserJock | ||
| Hobbsee | the merging doc could be simplified to include the MoM stuff... | 04:15 |
| Erlang | ah, well, I'm gonna fill a but about updating Erlang to 10.b.10. Just making sure it builds out of the box on Dapper. | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | Erlang: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackportsHowto in case you haven't found it | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | see ya guys later, we're heading for imax today =) | 04:17 |
| bddebian | Nice, enjoy | 04:18 |
| LaserJock | oh cool | 04:18 |
| Hobbsee | jsgotangco: enjoy | 04:18 |
| === Erlang needs to be updated on Dapper. | ||
| Erlang | Sorry. I just love how that looks. | 04:19 |
| bddebian | Hmm, shite, ajunta doesn't build in edgy pbuilder | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | ahha | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | it hates you | 04:25 |
| Hobbsee | why this time? | 04:25 |
| bddebian | creating libanjuta-devhelp.la | 04:25 |
| bddebian | /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/libwnck-1.la: No such file or directory | 04:26 |
| bddebian | libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libwnck-1.la' is not a valid libtool archive | 04:26 |
| bddebian | make[4] : *** [libanjuta-devhelp.la] Error 1 | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: and where is that file? | 04:28 |
| bddebian | Good freakin question. I haven't looked yet :-) | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | looking now | 04:29 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: b-d on libwnck-dev | 04:30 |
| Hobbsee | that should solve your problem | 04:30 |
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| bddebian | Hobbsee: Trying now, thanks | 04:34 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: :) | 04:34 |
| LaserJock | imbrandon! | 04:36 |
| imbrandon_ | heh LaserJock , we have a hard time getting online at the same time ;) | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 04:37 |
| LaserJock | brb | 04:37 |
| imbrandon_ | Hobbsee: got my new iBook running ;) | 04:39 |
| imbrandon_ | Sysinfo for 'shuttlepod': Linux 2.6.15-23-powerpc running KDE 3.5.3, CPU: at 0 MHz (24 bogomips), , RAM: 618/628MB, 81 proc's, 55.0min up | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | imbrandon_: yay! | 04:39 |
| Hobbsee | 0 MHz? :P | 04:39 |
| imbrandon_ | lol i think the konvo scipt is messed up | 04:39 |
| imbrandon_ | script* | 04:40 |
| LaserJock | nice, 24 bogomips | 04:41 |
| imbrandon_ | lol | 04:41 |
| imbrandon_ | brb | 04:41 |
| LaserJock | doh, I've been /query'ing his other self | 04:42 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: Still no worky | 04:58 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: darn! that's what package p.u.c says the file is in | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | what was the erro r this time? | 05:06 |
| bddebian | Same thing but I'm in pbuilder login now :-) | 05:06 |
| Hobbsee | er, what? | 05:06 |
| bddebian | Hobbsee: I did a pbuilder login so I can check it more closely | 05:10 |
| Hobbsee | bddebian: ah ok | 05:17 |
| bddebian | Gah, it needs libtool | 05:26 |
| bddebian | #$!#@$% | 05:26 |
| LaserJock | oh, nice swearing | 05:29 |
| bddebian | :-) | 05:29 |
| Hobbsee_phone | hehe | 05:30 |
| Hobbsee_phone | bddebian: why dont you teach the devs something too? :P | 05:30 |
| bddebian | 'cause I'm stupid | 05:31 |
| Hobbsee_phone | sure you can | 05:31 |
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| Kyral | Night people | 05:49 |
| Hobbsee | bye Kyral | 05:51 |
| Hawkwind | Kyral: Sleep well | 05:51 |
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| ajmitch | evening | 08:48 |
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| Gloubiboulga | hi ajmitch | 09:02 |
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| phanatic | morning | 09:29 |
| rob | hi phanatic | 09:30 |
| phanatic | hey rob | 09:30 |
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| phanatic | siretart: ping | 09:36 |
| siretart | hi phanatic | 09:36 |
| phanatic | hi siretart, sysinfo is still not in the dapper-updates archive. what went wrong? | 09:37 |
| ajmitch | hello siretart | 09:37 |
| siretart | huhu ajmitch | 09:39 |
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| siretart | phanatic: sysinfo? err, I don't really remember, did I upload it for you? didn't I bounce you the ACCEPTED mail? | 09:39 |
| siretart | grr. why dpkg-buildpackage doesn't exclude my .bzr directory anymore.. hmm | 09:40 |
| phanatic | siretart: yeah, you were sponsoring it. i got the mail, but still no package available... | 09:40 |
| siretart | phanatic: ah, I think I remember keybuk asking me who approved the upload | 09:41 |
| siretart | phanatic: perhaps you should mail keybuk/mdz about that | 09:41 |
| phanatic | siretart: ok, i'll do that | 09:42 |
| phanatic | siretart: i mailed keybuk, waiting for an answer :) | 09:48 |
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| looksaus | I have a somewhat exotic keyboard layout: an iBook with Belgian keyboard | 10:55 |
| looksaus | I wonder what I could do to make it really well supported | 10:56 |
| looksaus | right now, the console keymap is quite ok, but the X support for it is almost nonexistant | 10:57 |
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| looksaus | I would like to get a clean Belgian iBook layout, integrated with Ubuntu | 10:58 |
| looksaus | any suggestions on where to start? | 10:58 |
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| kelmo | moin | 11:51 |
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| kelmo | hi siretart, got a minute or two? | 11:52 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: thanks for your comments, as for kchmviewer, when I made it (a month or two ago), there wasn't a debian package, anyways, the kchmviewer I provide does not depend on KDE, only QT | 11:53 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: the previous version of kchmviewer (v1.3) that was on Ubuntu, was depending on KDE | 11:53 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: as for other packages, ok, if I find a package on debian I won't send it to REVU, I was told before that it is OK | 11:57 |
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| AnAnt | I got a question about REVU, why doesn't it email me the comments that people send on packages I upload ? | 11:57 |
| AnAnt | or at least email me with a notification that there is a comment | 11:58 |
| AnAnt | errr, nevermind, it seems I should subscribe to some list | 11:58 |
| ajmitch | because noone hacked that in to email uploaders directly, just the mailing list | 11:58 |
| AnAnt | k, thanks | 11:59 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: seems you are away, so later then | 12:00 |
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| siretart | kelmo: heyhi | 12:42 |
| siretart | heyho, that is | 12:42 |
| kelmo | hehe | 12:47 |
| kelmo | siretart: launchpad #51351 | 12:47 |
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| siretart | kelmo: just wanted to talk to you about that | 12:47 |
| kelmo | siretart: from the limited information on that report, i think its fixed in svn | 12:47 |
| siretart | wow! that was fast | 12:48 |
| kelmo | and the env issue should also be addressed | 12:48 |
| kelmo | *should* | 12:48 |
| kelmo | lets test it out | 12:48 |
| siretart | regarding the Keybuks new world order about an ifupdown replacement, I think this is this spec: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/replacement-networking | 12:50 |
| kelmo | ah, cool | 12:50 |
| siretart | looking at the whiteboard, it looks like we will stay with ifupdown in edgy | 12:50 |
| kelmo | will have a read | 12:50 |
| kelmo | well, it would take quite some work | 12:50 |
| kelmo | okay, seems it still needs more thought | 12:51 |
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| siretart | perhaps edgy+1, perhaps netconf-devel comes with something new earlier.. | 12:53 |
| kelmo | yeah, about that | 12:53 |
| kelmo | is netconf-devel alive? just a bit quiet? | 12:54 |
| siretart | well, there are some interested ppl subscribed, but noone seems to have time atm to work on it | 12:54 |
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| siretart | I think anyone is invited to discuss and hack | 12:55 |
| kelmo | there is code and specification drafted somewhere? | 12:55 |
| kelmo | and/or | 12:55 |
| kelmo | i could not yield much with google | 12:55 |
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| kelmo | but possibly would be interested in helping in some form or another | 12:56 |
| siretart | I'm not sure, I think there is only the mailing list archive | 12:56 |
| siretart | the idea was to craft a ifupdown replacement in python first, test it, and port it then to c++ | 12:57 |
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| DanielC | Hi all. I'm learning to make .deb packages and have a question: dh_testdir "makes sure that you are in the correct directory when building a package". Which directory is that? The base package directory? The debian subdirectory? The src subdirectory? | 01:11 |
| DanielC | I assume that it's wherever I would normally run ./configure. Is that right? | 01:12 |
| kelmo | siretart: i am pretty confident I've accounted for the ifstate debian<=>ubuntu divergence | 01:12 |
| kelmo | siretart: is there anything todo on launchpad for that? or maybe worth requesting another upload? | 01:12 |
| kelmo | siretart: i guess some testing/confirmation would also be in order | 01:13 |
| siretart | kelmo: I need to leave for lunch now | 01:13 |
| siretart | kelmo: I'm trying to convert my system to the wpa-roam mode, but I'm having some troubles | 01:13 |
| siretart | (wpa_cli doesn't block here) | 01:13 |
| siretart | will investigate later | 01:14 |
| siretart | cu later | 01:14 |
| kelmo | seeya | 01:14 |
| kelmo | DanielC: usually in the parent directory to the debian one | 01:14 |
| DanielC | kelmo: Thanks. | 01:15 |
| kelmo | ie ./debian should exist in your building path | 01:15 |
| DanielC | I think I understand... | 01:15 |
| DanielC | So, on debian/rules, after I run dh_testdir, I can reasonably assume I'm in the parent directory of 'debian'... right? | 01:16 |
| kelmo | the path `./debian/rules' kinda suggests that | 01:17 |
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| DanielC | kelmo: Since the 'rules' file is in the 'debian' directory, it's not obvious to me that dh_testdir is equivalent to 'cd ..'. That's why I ask. | 01:18 |
| kelmo | DanielC: $(CURDIR) env variable is set somewhere | 01:19 |
| DanielC | ok | 01:19 |
| kelmo | DanielC: you could assume that $(CURDIR) is where you are working from, iirc | 01:19 |
| DanielC | Ok, that's useful. Thanks. | 01:20 |
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| \sh | moins | 01:25 |
| kelmo | gday \sh | 01:25 |
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| lfittl | does somebody have time to upload http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=2568 for me? (already reviewed and uploaded yesterday, but the buildds override some flags, so it FTBFS) | 01:43 |
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| sivang | lfittl: hi, what was the buildds problem with your package? | 02:01 |
| lfittl | sivang: for some reason CPPFLAGS and LDFLAGS is set to "" when built by the buildds but not when built by p | 02:01 |
| lfittl | builder | 02:01 |
| sivang | lfittl: I see, do you have enough advocates for the package ? | 02:02 |
| lfittl | it is just an update, and I got one yesterday, so I would say yes ;) | 02:02 |
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| sivang | lfittl: cool, do you know if this update is likely to come from debian ? because if so, and your changes are adopted upstream, we'd better wait for it to sync or file a sync request | 02:03 |
| sivang | ajmitch, siretart : what do I need to do to become a MOTU review, and be able to do logins in REVU, test builds etc? | 02:04 |
| sivang | lfittl: I just want to amek sure I go through the right administrativa before I Upload :) | 02:04 |
| sivang | raphink , siretart , ajmitch : also, is thre and easy way to get the source from REVU for local testing? | 02:05 |
| lfittl | sivang: it was not updated in debian for a long time, so I took over maintainership for ubuntu last november | 02:05 |
| raphink | not yet sivang | 02:05 |
| raphink | in REVU2 there'll be a deb-src repository | 02:05 |
| raphink | it's part of the specs | 02:05 |
| bigon | hi, I have a question... are the new packages in debian automaticaly synced in edgy? and if not how can I ask a package to be added in universe? | 02:07 |
| raphink | they should be synced imo | 02:08 |
| bigon | ok thx | 02:09 |
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| === Yagisan waves G'day | ||
| === StevenK waves to Yagisan. | ||
| Yagisan | hey StevenK, what's up ? | 02:35 |
| StevenK | Not much. Trying to motivate myself after watching the footy. | 02:36 |
| StevenK | It isn't working. | 02:36 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: I'm wondering why cmake hates me. Followed the tuts' and the scripts look right, but it claims it can't find my headers | 02:38 |
| === StevenK returns ENOCLUE when passed cmake. | ||
| Yagisan | StevenK: autotools replacement. | 02:41 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: has human readable build scripts ;) | 02:41 |
| StevenK | Ah. | 02:41 |
| Yagisan | StevenK: but hates me just as much ans autotools does. | 02:41 |
| \sh | Yagisan: latest cmake version? | 02:42 |
| Yagisan | \sh: yep. Edgy's | 02:42 |
| StevenK | Yagisan: I'd believe that auto* is large enough to have a personality, but I don't know about cmake .... | 02:43 |
| \sh | Yagisan: ah...that reminds me to provide some new kde4 and qt packages for our fellow KDE core devs | 02:43 |
| Yagisan | brb - daughter still sick | 02:43 |
| \sh | but I don't have the drive to do it now | 02:43 |
| === \sh 's sick, too..summer flue | ||
| havoc | that sucks | 02:45 |
| havoc | our neighbor and his family are really sick too, so I cut their lawn for them yesterday | 02:45 |
| kelmo | my mums got the shits ;-) (literally ;-) | 02:45 |
| sivang | raphink: I'll just fetch for the source then with wget | 02:45 |
| raphink | sure sivang | 02:46 |
| Yagisan | kelmo: now imagine a 2 year old like that. On carpet. I await your pity. | 02:46 |
| \sh | I traveled by train last monday to karlsruhe, when I started in cologne, it was 20 degrees C outside, in the train, the aircondition was set to -10 degrees C something like that, and when I arrived in karlsruhe, it was 35 degrees C, so I just catched it... | 02:47 |
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| havoc | 35C is damn hot | 02:48 |
| === havoc doesn't like anything over 20C | ||
| \sh | havoc: well, soccer championships in germany, what do you expect from the weather ;) we need to provide a good environment for brasilia... | 02:49 |
| havoc | bah | 02:49 |
| === \sh is so sad, that argentina lost yesterdays match against germany | ||
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| sivang | hmm? | 02:58 |
| sivang | sivan@swirl:~/src-pkgs$ wget http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libloki-0607010730/libloki_0.1.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes | 02:58 |
| sivang | --15:57:38-- http://revu.tauware.de/revu1-incoming/libloki-0607010730/libloki_0.1.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes | 02:58 |
| sivang | => `libloki_0.1.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes' | 02:58 |
| sivang | Resolving revu.tauware.de... 69.60.114.100 | 02:58 |
| sivang | Connecting to revu.tauware.de|69.60.114.100|:80... connected. | 02:58 |
| sivang | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden | 02:58 |
| sivang | 15:57:44 ERROR 403: Forbidden. | 02:58 |
| sivang | lfittl: do you know why I can't get that file? :) | 02:58 |
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| ajmitch | sivang: because you shouldn't, and you don't need it | 02:58 |
| sivang | ajmitch: ah, this is something special to REVU ? | 02:59 |
| \sh | no..it's purpose :) | 02:59 |
| ajmitch | yes, it's called filesystem permissions | 02:59 |
| sivang | ajmitch: no, I meant, that file... | 02:59 |
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| ajmitch | you know that a .changes file is what is uploaded | 03:00 |
| sivang | ajmitch: it's left over from the build attempt, I see, so I shouldn't need it anyways | 03:00 |
| sivang | ajmitch: yes | 03:00 |
| === Yagisan curses cmake again. | ||
| ajmitch | and that some MOTU could put a package up for review, and then some random person could decide to grab the changes file & stick it in the archive | 03:01 |
| ajmitch | since that changes file has the signature needed | 03:01 |
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| sivang | ajmitch: right, I see. btw, what do I need to do to become a REVU registered reviewer? | 03:02 |
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| ajmitch | ask someone with access | 03:02 |
| sivang | ajmitch: k, thanks | 03:03 |
| sivang | hmm, LP is slow today or is it just me ? :) | 03:03 |
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| sivang | lfittl: going over the source now | 03:20 |
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| lfittl | sivang: thanks (sry, was away from the computer) | 03:40 |
| siretart | kelmo: still around? | 03:45 |
| siretart | kelmo: ok, I got back, and everyting seems to work now (without that I changed anything, of course) | 03:45 |
| siretart | I assume that there were some strange association failures.. | 03:45 |
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| sivang | siretart: can you set me up as a reviewer in REVU? | 03:48 |
| sivang | siretart: I'd like to help lfittl with his package | 03:49 |
| siretart | sivang: sure. whats your email/id in revu? | 03:49 |
| sivang | siretart: not sure :) | 03:49 |
| siretart | oh. what email do you use to login? | 03:49 |
| sivang | in LP ? | 03:49 |
| siretart | in revu | 03:49 |
| sivang | I never logged in | 03:49 |
| siretart | oh. ok. | 03:49 |
| lfittl | siretart: it should be sivan@ubuntu.com | 03:50 |
| siretart | please send me an gpg encrypted email with your requested password | 03:50 |
| sivang | lfittl: ;) | 03:50 |
| lfittl | ;) | 03:50 |
| sivang | siretart: I already sent something with my GPG to be able ot upload to REVU | 03:50 |
| sivang | siretart: does that count as something ? | 03:50 |
| kelmo | re siretart | 03:51 |
| siretart | sivang: well, you upload stuff to ubuntu, no? so you can become a reviewer. please email me your requested password | 03:51 |
| siretart | kelmo: I will keep wpasupplicant in inspection | 03:52 |
| sivang | siretart: okay, thanks :) | 03:52 |
| kelmo | siretart: i think something was lost in translation of last sentence ;-) | 03:52 |
| kelmo | observation perhaps? | 03:53 |
| siretart | err, I meant I will keep an eye on wpasupplicant | 03:53 |
| siretart | currently it works for me | 03:53 |
| siretart | unfortunately, I don't have wpa networks near me to test atm :( | 03:53 |
| kelmo | i do ;-) | 03:53 |
| kelmo | siretart: well, we've got some great feedback lately, so that keeps me happy, and I hope you too ;-) | 03:54 |
| siretart | kelmo: of course! | 03:54 |
| siretart | kelmo: I think we can close the pseudo RC bug in the next upload | 03:54 |
| siretart | urgency=low | 03:54 |
| kelmo | siretart: do as you see fit | 03:55 |
| siretart | ok | 03:56 |
| kelmo | am half thinking about pushing an upload candidate to kyle again this weekend, but am wary that it may be too soon | 03:56 |
| kelmo | what do you think? | 03:56 |
| siretart | I'm undecided as well. | 03:56 |
| siretart | sivang: you are sending me empty mails? | 03:57 |
| siretart | kelmo: lets ask him around wednesday. so that everyone had the complete weekend to test the package | 03:57 |
| kelmo | siretart: yep, sure | 03:58 |
| sivang | siretart: sorry, that was a mistake, sending you a good one shortly | 03:59 |
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| kelmo | siretart: gn8 then, until next time ;-) | 04:05 |
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| algor | how use wpa wireless? | 04:22 |
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| AnAnt | lionelp: ok, I just checked kchmviewer, as I told you, my package doesn't require KDE | 04:25 |
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| sivang | guys, has anyone tried to burn something using edgy? | 04:48 |
| sivang | cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl | 04:48 |
| sivang | ^^ | 04:48 |
| DanielC | Help: debuild gives the error "no-copyright-file" but I do have a debian/copyright file. Does anyone know what this means then? | 04:48 |
| sivang | interestingly, nautilus-cd-burner fails without explenation | 04:49 |
| AnAnt | DanielC: dunno, but check the permissions of that file | 04:49 |
| DanielC | AnAnt: Just checked... the are 644. | 04:50 |
| AnAnt | DanielC: dunno then | 04:51 |
| DanielC | Ok, thanks. | 04:51 |
| DanielC | It also warns "description-starts-with-leading-spaces" but in debian/control the description says: "Description:Getting Started guide ..." (ie. I don't see any leading spaces) | 04:52 |
| AnAnt | DanielC: well, I think that there must be a space | 04:54 |
| AnAnt | DanielC: I just checked a control file here, and there is a single space after the colon | 04:54 |
| AnAnt | DanielC: also the long description, each line has a single leading space | 04:54 |
| DanielC | Ah. | 04:55 |
| DanielC | My long description starts with 2 spaces. | 04:55 |
| DanielC | Thanks. The spaces warning is now gone. | 04:56 |
| AnAnt | k | 04:56 |
| DanielC | Is there any reason why I shouldn't have a list in the extended description? | 04:57 |
| DanielC | debuild says "possible unintended list in description"... well I do have a list in the description (a list of chapters). | 04:58 |
| AnAnt | dunno | 04:59 |
| DanielC | ok | 04:59 |
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| lfittl | sivang: finished with your review? | 05:20 |
| Yagisan | ok. any favourite cross-platform build systems guys ? (excluding autotools -too complex, and cmake - too stubborn) | 05:23 |
| lfittl | maybe scons? | 05:26 |
| === Yagisan looking again. | ||
| jsgotangco | man ascii worldcup is weird hehhee | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | I wish cmake worked. It looked perfect :( | 05:27 |
| lfittl | what is the problem with cmake? | 05:27 |
| Yagisan | lfittl: it refuses to find my includes, even though it is specifically told where they are | 05:30 |
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| Kamion | Could somebody please check and verify bug 51347? | 05:31 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 51347 in librpcsecgss "[Edgy MoM] Please sync librpcsecgss 0.13-1from Debian sid" [Untriaged,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/51347 | 05:31 |
| Yagisan | lfittl: and gives me 3 screens worth of errors for my trouble | 05:31 |
| lfittl | Yagisan: did you ask on the mailinglist what the problem could be? | 05:32 |
| Yagisan | lfittl: no. | 05:34 |
| lfittl | Yagisan: maybe its something simple, because not finding the includes sounds like a problem that is easy to solve if you know the system good enough | 05:36 |
| sivang | lfittl: had a problem with my network, I will upload shortly :) | 05:36 |
| lfittl | sivang: perfect :) | 05:36 |
| sivang | siretart: how do you sponser an upload for someone? just dput with the changes file but with your key sign , and his names will be on edgy-changes ? | 05:37 |
| siretart | sivang: http://www.debian.org/doc/developers-reference/ch-beyond-pkging.en.html#s-sponsoring - though I prefer using debsign | 05:38 |
| Yagisan | lfittl: what to have a look at the output ? I can quickly pastbin it. | 05:39 |
| Yagisan | s/what/want | 05:39 |
| lfittl | Yagisan: I don't know cmake good enough, sry, but simply ask on the mailinglist ;) | 05:40 |
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| sivang | siretart: sent you an encrypted password email | 05:50 |
| sivang | siretart: let me know if you got it | 05:50 |
| sivang | lfittl: where is the upstream source for libloki published ? | 05:53 |
| lfittl | sivang: http://www.sf.net/projects/loki-lib/ | 05:53 |
| sivang | lfittl: thanks | 05:54 |
| sivang | come one sf.net, let's see your first page :) | 05:55 |
| sivang | ah, finally | 05:55 |
| lfittl | :) | 05:56 |
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| siretart | lfittl: you want to package libloki? | 06:03 |
| lfittl | siretart: I already packaged it | 06:03 |
| sivang | lfittl: almost done :) | 06:04 |
| lfittl | siretart: and I also maintain it since last year | 06:04 |
| sivang | lfittl: are you going to be maintaining it in debian as well? | 06:04 |
| siretart | lfittl: nice. there are really nice concepts in alexandrescu's work | 06:05 |
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| lfittl | sivang: I was planning that since months, but I have not found time to talk with madduck about this yet (he is the old maintainer) | 06:05 |
| lfittl | siretart: I know, it is a really useful library :) | 06:06 |
| siretart | sivang: you don't really care about encrypted mails, eh? ;) - anyway, I updated your password and your access level | 06:06 |
| sivang | siretart: did it arrive to you unencrypted?! O_o | 06:06 |
| siretart | sivang: yes, it was signed only | 06:07 |
| sivang | siretart: oh crap | 06:07 |
| sivang | siretart: I'm a bit lost today :) | 06:07 |
| siretart | lfittl: you should really talk to madduck soon, I read somewhere that he welcomes comaintainers | 06:07 |
| sivang | I did clean sign instead of ascii armor | 06:07 |
| sivang | clear, even | 06:07 |
| siretart | lfittl: you can find him often on irc.oftc.net | 06:07 |
| sivang | siretart: thanks, nonetheless | 06:07 |
| lfittl | siretart: k, will try to talk to him tomorrow | 06:08 |
| sivang | lfittl: I see you mentione on the changlog that the LDFLAGS and CFLAGS ftbs fixup was accepted upstream, why , then are you patching it in the package? | 06:08 |
| lfittl | sivang: because the fix is not released, only commited in cvs | 06:09 |
| sivang | lfittl: I see, okay, which means you will need to repack upstream source when they fix it :-) | 06:09 |
| siretart | lfittl: alexandrescu is still working on it? | 06:09 |
| sivang | huh? | 06:10 |
| sivang | dpkg-parsechangelog: error: cannot open ./debian/changelog to find format: No such file or directory | 06:10 |
| sivang | dpkg-source: error: syntax error in parsed version of changelog at line 0: empty file | 06:10 |
| lfittl | siretart: he sometimes contributes new stuff, but the bug fixing is primarily done by Peter Kmmel, Richard Sposato and me (I work on the makefiles) | 06:10 |
| sivang | -rw-r--r-- 1 sivan sivan 1879 2006-07-01 16:00 changelog | 06:10 |
| siretart | lfittl: ah. I see | 06:10 |
| sivang | this is in libloki-0.1.5/debian | 06:10 |
| sivang | siretart: any idea? ^^ | 06:11 |
| sivang | siretart: (I downloaded that upstream tarball, and applied lfittl's diff to it and attempting a test build) | 06:11 |
| sivang | hrm, this is the same with lfittl's source from REVU | 06:12 |
| sivang | lfittl: did you have any trouble building it on your edgy? | 06:14 |
| siretart | sivang: err, huh? | 06:15 |
| sivang | siretart: weird issue with dpkg-parschangelog | 06:15 |
| siretart | sivang: call it again from .. | 06:15 |
| lfittl | sivang: I built it under dapper with an edgy pbuilder and it worked without any problem | 06:15 |
| sivang | siretart: let me try | 06:16 |
| sivang | libloki-test/libloki-0.1.5$ dpkg-parsechangelog | 06:17 |
| sivang | Source: libloki | 06:17 |
| sivang | Version: 0.1.5-0ubuntu2 | 06:17 |
| sivang | Distribution: edgy | 06:17 |
| sivang | .... | 06:17 |
| seaLne | is there a problem uploading to revu just now? | 06:17 |
| sivang | works fine on its own | 06:17 |
| sivang | doing so from debuild explodes | 06:17 |
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| AnAnt | There is a package that I have uploaded before, I made some changes again to it. can I only upload the diff as I am on a low bandwidth connection ? | 06:23 |
| AnAnt | is anyone there ? | 06:26 |
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| phanatic | hi people | 06:44 |
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| sivang | lfittl: did you package the test directory as well? ( and have it usable from the debian package) | 07:00 |
| lfittl | sivang: no, because some tests fail on non-x86 architectures | 07:02 |
| sivang | lfittl: okay, how can I test the the package is operational after I have installed your packages ? | 07:06 |
| sivang | lfittl: (like a small test prog , tomake sure linkage is okay etc) | 07:06 |
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| lfittl | sivang: you can't right now, but do you think it is necessary? (most library packages don't include test programs, only some include examples in an extra package) | 07:07 |
| sivang | lfittl: well, I am not holding it as somethiing I want to see before I upload, just wanted to try it to see if we're uploading something that works or provides anything :-) | 07:08 |
| sivang | lfittl: how do you make sure your packaging is right if you don't try to use the library as it's installed on your ubuntu systme? | 07:08 |
| sivang | lfittl: (that is, to make sure stuff dynamically linked against it works) | 07:09 |
| lfittl | sivang: I run the tests and use the includes and libraries from the system, instead of the ones included with the source | 07:10 |
| lfittl | sivang: not the best solution, but I will improve this with future releases | 07:10 |
| sivang | lfittl: cool, how can I do that as well? | 07:11 |
| lfittl | sivang: you must change some parts of the makefile | 07:11 |
| lfittl | sivang: change the first two lines of test/Makefile, simple remove -I../../include and -L../../lib | 07:12 |
| sivang | lfittl: I need to leave export LDLIBS = -lloki | 07:17 |
| sivang | lfittl: right? | 07:17 |
| lfittl | yep | 07:17 |
| sivang | k, sec | 07:17 |
| sivang | yay, it builds | 07:18 |
| lfittl | :) | 07:18 |
| sivang | g++ --shared -L. -o singletondll.dll singletondll.o -lfoo -lloki | 07:19 |
| sivang | /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfoo | 07:19 |
| sivang | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status | 07:19 |
| sivang | ^ ? | 07:19 |
| sivang | this is when doing | 07:19 |
| sivang | make[1] : Entering directory `/home/sivan/MOTU-review/libloki/libloki-0.1.5/test/SingletonDll' | 07:19 |
| lfittl | hmm | 07:19 |
| lfittl | how are you calling make? | 07:20 |
| sivang | just make ;-) | 07:20 |
| lfittl | from which directory? | 07:20 |
| sivang | from the /test dir | 07:21 |
| sivang | should I be doing this one level up? | 07:21 |
| lfittl | if you call it from test you have to use "make OS=Linux" | 07:22 |
| sivang | lfittl: ah :) | 07:24 |
| lfittl | :) | 07:24 |
| sivang | yay, seems to be working ! | 07:25 |
| lfittl | nice :) | 07:26 |
| sivang | ./SmallObjBench is nice | 07:26 |
| sivang | anyway, sign and upload now | 07:26 |
| lfittl | thanks for testing, and also thanks for uploading ;) | 07:27 |
| sivang | lfittl: I had pleasure doing so, this is REALLY interesting library | 07:28 |
| lfittl | sivang: I know, hopefully more people will start using it, it really allows you to create complex programs more easily | 07:30 |
| sivang | Successfully uploaded packages. | 07:35 |
| sivang | Not running dinstall. | 07:35 |
| sivang | lfittl: ^^ | 07:35 |
| lfittl | ^^ | 07:35 |
| sivang | lfittl: yes, let's hope more and more people will use it indeed :) | 07:35 |
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| lfittl | sivang: something different, do you know if the upstream version freeze on July 13th also applies to universe? | 07:37 |
| sivang | lfittl: IIRC we try to keep it that way, but exceptions can be considered on a specific basis. Better talk to ogra or dhlobach wheren they are here | 07:37 |
| sivang | or even siretart - | 07:38 |
| sivang | siretart: ^^ | 07:38 |
| sivang | lfittl: packages is accepted, now just wait for it to bin build | 07:38 |
| lfittl | yep, I know ;) | 07:38 |
| sivang | lfittl: did you get confiramtion email ? :) | 07:39 |
| lfittl | siretart: no, but I am subscribed to edgy-changes | 07:40 |
| sivang | lfittl: ah, cool | 07:40 |
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| CarlFK | running for dumbest question of the day: I thought I started a wiki page describign how to build a .deb from src - like a generic version of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BuildingWineFromSource | 07:54 |
| CarlFK | but now I can't find the page - anyone seen it? | 07:55 |
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| sivang | anyway, some weekend time is in place now | 08:02 |
| sivang | laters all | 08:02 |
| siretart | lfittl: yes, UVF freeze applies to all components of ubuntu | 08:02 |
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| lfittl | siretart: k, and completely new packages are accepted until feature freeze? | 08:03 |
| siretart | jupp | 08:04 |
| lfittl | good :) | 08:04 |
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| siretart | is Robin Sonefors around? | 08:41 |
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| ozamosi | siretart: yes, that's me. | 08:58 |
| siretart | ozamosi: you are in the lp group? | 08:58 |
| ozamosi | Yes. | 08:58 |
| crimsun | I ought to trawl revu | 08:59 |
| crimsun | there's a /huge/ backlog | 08:59 |
| siretart | crimsun: got my email regarding b-m-p? | 08:59 |
| crimsun | siretart: let me check e-mail; I may need it resent | 09:00 |
| crimsun | siretart: I see it, reading now | 09:01 |
| crimsun | siretart: sure, I'll handle the merge. Our orig.tar.gzs /should/ differ since the default skins are different. | 09:03 |
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| siretart | crimsun: I think this is unfortunate, since it confuses merging. if you could add a note about this in debian/changelog, perhaps I won't get confused next time ;) | 09:05 |
| siretart | crimsun: btw, is there a debian bug about this? | 09:06 |
| crimsun | siretart: well, I could just drop the Ubuntu skin altogether so we can revert to Debian packaging | 09:06 |
| crimsun | I'm not terribly keen on maintaining extra deltas | 09:06 |
| === siretart neither. it costs ressources while merging | ||
| siretart | reverting to debian is only possible if a new orig.tar.gz arrives at debian | 09:08 |
| siretart | crimsun: perhaps it would be wise to reupload the orig.tar.gz with 'ubuntu' in its name (and adding a note in debian/changelog) | 09:09 |
| siretart | crimsun: we do this with xine as well, in order to avoid confusion | 09:09 |
| siretart | and debian is using 'dfsg' for this | 09:10 |
| crimsun | no one has stated either way that the default skin in the Ubuntu packaging is pleasing or disgusting, so I'm inclined to just rework the orig.tar.gz (for clarification) | 09:10 |
| crimsun | added to TODO | 09:10 |
| ivoks | anyone interested in providing some feedback? :) | 09:21 |
| ivoks | (non-HP printer required) | 09:21 |
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| Yagisan | ivoks: for what ? | 09:25 |
| ozamosi | I'm trying to use motu-tools to sync a package, but I get an error message that seems to say that getSubjectFromWeb has a regex that doesn't match. | 09:25 |
| ozamosi | Am I doing something wrong, or is something broken? | 09:26 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: to test one dirty hack that should auto-install usb printers | 09:26 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: it's a plain bash script | 09:26 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: will it kill an existing usb printer setup on dapper ? | 09:27 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: nope | 09:28 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: ok. What would you like me to do. Should be a nice distraction from my cmake woes | 09:28 |
| Yagisan | ? | 09:28 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: well, first of all, what printer is that? | 09:28 |
| Yagisan | ivoks: lsusb thinks it is "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:1056 Canon, Inc. BJC-2110 Color Printer" but the plastic badge says BJC-2100SP. cheap n nasty. | 09:29 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: i tested this with HPs only, but i think it should work with non-HP too, that's why i need someone to test it :) | 09:30 |
| ivoks | Yagisan: do you accept dcc? | 09:31 |
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| ozamosi | ...please? Somebody? | 09:36 |
| lifeless | ozamosi: perhaps if you give some more detail | 09:40 |
| ozamosi | python lpbugs.py -u -b 51526 -s Gives me "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group'" | 09:41 |
| ozamosi | The traceback is here: http://pastebin.ca/76535 | 09:41 |
| ozamosi | What details do you want? | 09:42 |
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| lifeless | I want someone familiar with it to jump in and help ;) | 09:44 |
| ozamosi | That's a valid wish ;) | 09:44 |
| lifeless | Yagisan: any idea | 09:44 |
| ozamosi | That's odd... The regex in the code searches for ", but launchpad has - that's not the same character... | 09:48 |
| Yagisan | lifeless: no. My python is almost non-existent. | 09:48 |
| ozamosi | Ah, that fixed it! | 09:49 |
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| AnAnt | anyone here ? | 10:06 |
| DanielC | I'm here :) | 10:06 |
| AnAnt | ok | 10:06 |
| AnAnt | I uploaded a package before, and now I did some changes, can I just upload the diff file ? | 10:06 |
| === DanielC hopes that there is someone here who knows the answer to that... | ||
| AnAnt | so do I | 10:07 |
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| crimsun | no, upload the entire source package again. | 10:08 |
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| AnAnt | k | 10:16 |
| AnAnt | lionelp: you there ? | 10:17 |
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| lionelp | eh, how can AnAnt think that a french can be there during bresil-france :) | 10:52 |
| tuxmaniac | :(( | 10:53 |
| lionelp | tuxmaniac: are you brasilian ? | 10:56 |
| tuxmaniac | lionelp> nope. | 10:56 |
| tuxmaniac | lionelp> Indian. Yesterday I wanted Argentina to win.. Today I wanted Brasil to win. | 10:56 |
| Yagisan | ah, I can see the sunrise | 10:57 |
| Yagisan | right then | 10:57 |
| Yagisan | I'm off to bed | 10:57 |
| Yagisan | bye all | 10:57 |
| crimsun | 'morning :) | 10:57 |
| _ion | Everyone loses. | 10:58 |
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