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earHertzdli: I the future, hiw do I figure that out for myself?12:00
kingruedithe script failed for me to start :/12:00
mjr`underOATH, the mobility radeons that are supported are supported through the same drivers as the desktop variants; what's your model?12:01
Lars_Galex_: If it's a JAR you don't need to "install" it. if it's a program from the commandline try to run: "java -jar <filename.jar>"12:01
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`underOATHmjr: ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP12:01
Lars_Galex_: You can also ask more in ##java but you'll possibly be treated like dirt, so be ready for it.12:01
gdbA jar file should come with a script to provide the correct arguments to the interpreter, to be honest.  But if there isn't one, then what Lars_G suggested should work.12:01
finalbetahow do I stop X? need to go to a shell, reload a driver, and then start x12:02
nubsauceis there a way i can manually add a screen resolution if i know both my monitor and gpu support it?12:02
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JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: lame is used to create compressed autio files. mp3 is one of its uses.12:02
Lars_Ggdb: That's correct. specially if it depends on included jars in it's classpath but bleh12:02
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andi5earHertz: in case you really want to compile a kernel (i guess you will not start developing with libncurses ;-)), try kernel-package (it suggests libncurses5-dev)12:02
dibblegogdb, it does - you put a Main-Class manifest entry, then -jar is implied12:02
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liquiemfinalbeta, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop12:02
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Lars_G"should" is not always "will"12:02
finalbetathnx12:02
dliearHertz, packages.ubuntu.com , or apt-cache , apt-file12:02
dibblego-jar ignores the classpath (java.class.path system property)12:02
mjr`underOATH, that should work pretty much out of the box afaik12:02
gdbfinalbeta: ALT-F1 to get to a text login, then run $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop -- do your work, and then $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start12:02
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alex_but there comes the same window12:02
`underOATHLars_G: thats why i really like cool channels like this where everyone is cool and nice to eachother so we all get the best out of the software. ubuntu has a really nice community of users12:02
JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: lame + liblame0 should be enough12:02
Lars_Gdibblego: Doh true I forgot classpath is ignored with -jar12:02
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fiveironanyone have a working logitech quickcam express?12:02
earHertzandi5: I'm trying rto compile the ipodlinux sources, actually ;)12:02
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fiveironi can't seem to get the qc-usb driver working12:03
Lars_G`underOATH: Never try to join #OpenBSD then, you'll regret it.12:03
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mjr`underOATH, though I'm not completely sure if the Ubuntu X.org/kernel release support the IGP aspect of it (support exists, I'm just not sure in which versions)12:03
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eggohey can someone point me to a step by step for compiling a kernel?  i keep getting errors and all i have done is download the source for my current kernel and use my existing config .... but still get errors :(12:03
gdb`underOATH: I think a lot of that has to do with people being attracted to the philosophy behind the name of the distribution.  I have to say that compared to other Linux channels, this one is by far the friendliest.12:03
Lars_Gdibblego: But there are ways, in which java code is run via a script without -jar and with a complex classpath12:03
JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: if you use gstreamer there is a lame plugin for it as well.12:03
Lars_Gdibblego: But you should know that, don't you?12:03
dibblegoLars_G, sure12:03
alex_blue j wants to know to which directory it have to install12:03
Lars_GJowi: That's lame12:03
liquiemeggo, what errors?12:03
`underOATHyeah, like #linux on gamesurge. everyone is mean12:03
mjr`underOATH, anyway, I have a non-IGP mobility 9000 and it works just dandy12:03
JowiLars_G: yes it is :)12:03
dibblegoLars_G, you can also enter a classpath executed with -jar by using a Class-Path manifest entry12:04
alexiconkubuntu is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:04
earHertzdli: thansk12:04
eggoliquiem : "error in source file"12:04
gdb`underOATH: I don't get that.  People that want Linux to "take over the world" doing everything they can to ensure that no one wants to run it. :-P12:04
foxinessJowi, thanks for your info it help man :)12:04
nivansonHi, I am having some trouble with my ATI driver. No matter how I configure X (I tried all tutorials) I still end up getting Mesa according to fglrxinfo. Did anyone have this problem? (using latest dapper)12:04
`underOATHmjr: did you have to install the drivers from the ati website12:04
Lars_Gdibblego: Wich is how I'd preffer to do it myself.12:04
dibblegoLars_G, I prefer to write my own class loader - it is much cleaner12:04
eggowhen in drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zdusb.c12:04
VieLGuS-KuTaSJowi: do u know what repo has the lame plugins?12:04
Jowifoxiness: no probs. glad i could help12:04
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alex_can anybody help me12:04
liquiemeggo, after what command? vanilla source or apt-based sources?12:04
VieLGuS-KuTaSJowi: or lame libs12:04
mjr`underOATH, no, I've not tried the proprietary drivers. The free DRI supports 3d acceleration on these chipsets.12:04
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JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: which version of ubuntu are you using=12:04
gdbVieLGuS-KuTaS: I'd guess that Multiverse does, if not Universe.12:04
kingruediwhen i start automatix the script starts and shuts down without any message12:05
eggowell i got the source via apt-get12:05
Cornelliusalex+: Don't ask, just tell your problem.12:05
Lars_Gdibblego: Though too many programmers preffer to just drop the main jar on the classpath in a script and call the main class directly. which to me is "dirty"12:05
Jowi!info liblame012:05
ubotuliblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB12:05
gdbkingruedi: please use easyubuntu instead. ;-)12:05
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eobanbkingruedi, dont use automatix12:05
gdbhttp://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/12:05
dibblegoLars_G, atrocities are rife :)12:05
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liquiem!info firefox12:05
ubotufirefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB12:05
Lars_Gdibblego: I used to, too, but I've ran away from J2SE and J2EE, and in J2ME you can't define classloaders :)12:05
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VieLGuS-KuTaSJowi: i have kubuntu 6.06 x6412:05
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Jowi!info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse12:05
`underOATHmjr: i'm going on vacation tomorrow and i usually play games on my desktop here on windows but i'd like to get a game or 2 running on my laptop with ubuntu for vacation. last time i got 4 fps in game instead of the 299 like i got on windows12:05
ubotugstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set (Multiverse Variant). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 104 kB12:05
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kingruedieobanb: why?12:05
Lars_G`underOATH: ATI card?12:06
JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: see what ubotu spat out12:06
`underOATHyes Lars_G12:06
fiveiron!quickcam12:06
ubotuI know nothing about quickcam12:06
alex_in which directory i have to install blue j12:06
alex_?12:06
VieLGuS-KuTaSJowi: i have all the repos enabled that come default , none has them12:06
Cornelliuskingruedi: Automatix uses ForceYes options that can be dangerous for your system.12:06
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kingruedioh12:06
JowiVieLGuS-KuTaS: yeah, you need universe and multiverse repos12:06
gdbalex_: I think the software is leaving that up to you. ;-) I prefer to install large software installations in /opt, myself.12:06
Lars_G`underOATH: Get used to it, wathever you do you'll get poor performance, but I'm sure you're using XOrg's drivers so there IS a lot of performance to be gained by switching to the binary-only ATI drivers.12:06
kingruedianyway it looks pretty bad12:06
Jowi!tell VieLGuS-KuTaS about universe12:06
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kingruedii'll try easyubuntu12:06
CornelliusBlue J ?12:07
Lars_G`underOATH: Saddly I have to go now. Aaaaand, I haven't touched an ATI not I will with a pole right now. so I leave you to your luck, I'm sure someone here or in the forums should be able o help with that12:07
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meshyfDoes anybody have a link to the latest xpad drivers?12:07
gdbkingruedi: I don't think you'll be disappointed.  They have a lot of good information on that site and EasyUbuntu makes installing multimedia, java, etc, a real snap.12:07
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Dial_toneAnyone use something other than totem as default video/dvd player?12:07
Jowi!tell VieLGuS-KuTaS about repos12:07
`underOATHalright i'll just try the drivers from the website and see how that works for me12:07
lophyteDial_tone: I use mplayer12:07
nivansonDial_tone: Mplayer12:07
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Lars_Gdibblego: I know where I know you now, we've met in ##java haven't we?12:07
gooniessomeone plz help me, this is driving me nuts, im trying to use compiz and xgl, but everytime i run gnome-window-decorator it restarts x, i previously made it run b4 without a problem, now all the sudden it just keeps restarting my x when i try it12:07
gdbCall me crazy, I actually like totem.12:08
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lophytegdb: you're crazy! :P12:08
eobanbgoonies, that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl12:08
gdblophyte: hehehe12:08
Dial_tonemy volume is too for for some reason12:08
andi5can you plug in a keyboard into a easyubuntu installation? or does it have to be voice controlled, spoken out in easy words.... apps: webbrowser showing your portal all the time?12:08
kcbannerHi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?12:08
Lars_G`underOATH: Advice. this can be a CONSUMING process. before you begin, make a backup of your XOrg config file, so if you become too flustered you can return it to normal to be able to enter X11 and browse for help files12:08
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kingruediok, i think i don't need it anyway. I basicly done everything. Except for DMA. But I thougt newer kernels activate dma automatically12:08
gdbandi5: eh?12:08
Lars_Ggdb: Crazy12:08
looksausI just tried to burn the ppc dapper iso under dapper12:09
gdblol12:09
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looksausit complains about being 702 Mb , too big to fit onto a 700 Mb CD12:09
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mjr`underOATH, probably 3d is not properly initialized in that case with the X.org drivers, does glxinfo|grep -i direct say what about rendering?12:09
Lars_Ggdb: Personally I use xmms for radio streams, mplayer and xine for videos, and AmaroK for my music collection12:09
goonies=\12:09
userundefinelooksaus, enable overburn.   702 is managable12:09
`underOATH"aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.sp.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"12:10
looksaususerundefine, where do I do that?12:10
kcbannerHi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?12:10
andrew_could someone point to some info on setting up wine in (k)ubuntu s.t. installed applications are available for all users?  Google isn't very helpful for me.12:10
`underOATHandrew_: #wine12:10
userundefinelooksaus, I'm not sure, I didn't get your backstory.  what program are you using?12:10
liquiemLars_G, bmpx for audio, mplayer for video :)12:10
`underOATHnvm12:10
`underOATHi forgot the wine channel12:10
gdbLars_G: Right, and I can absolutely see the desire for that, using a more "tuned for it" application for each job.  I prefer to have a single application that does what I want.  And all I do is listen to music and watch DVDs and movie files.  For streaming Internet raido, I just use Firefox. ;-)12:10
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andrew_`underOATH: ok, thanks.  nothing ubuntu specific, then.12:10
foxinessandrew_, wine on wiki.ubuntu.com12:10
Lars_Gliquiem: Have you tested xmms2? one of these days, i ought to12:10
looksaususerundefine, the builtin dapper cd writer12:10
andi5liquiem: bmpx self-compiled?12:10
mjr`underOATH, well, that's fglrx stuff then, dunno about that12:11
looksausnautilus-cd-burner12:11
CornelliusLars_G: XMMS2 ?12:11
userundefinelooksaus, nautilus or gnomebaker?12:11
gdbLars_G: I did really like xmms back when I was using it, though.  Maybe I'll install it again.12:11
`underOATHmjr: i guess i have to find that file and CD into that directory first12:11
userundefinelooksaus, ah12:11
Cornelliusliquiem: I like Rhythmbox12:11
Lars_Ggdb: The only place I do that in is IM, I can't stand one-client-per-protocol, so I use Kopete or similarily multiprotocol clients12:11
liquiemLars_G, nope, just bmpx12:11
Lars_GCornellius: Early alpha next version of xmms12:11
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lophyteI use rhythmbox for music, mplayer for video12:11
Lars_GCornellius: Completely rewriten, afaik12:11
liquiemandi5, yes, on gentoo compiled and on ubuntu the repo12:11
Cornelliusliquiem: Beep Media Player ?12:11
alex_blue j cant write his files on the directory opt12:11
gdbAye, gaim here.12:11
alex_can i use chmod?12:11
andi5gdb: aye, any idea how long it will take to get gaim 2.0 out? *waiting desparately* ;-)12:12
userundefinelooksaus, good question, I greatly doubt it supports it.  Gnomebaker probably does, let me see...12:12
liquiemCornellius, yep, a fork of it12:12
Lars_Ggdb: Aaaand, I've ripped most of my music, I have nearly 300Gb of music. So using a player for it, would be like commiting suicide.12:12
gdbandi5:  lol no idea, I just use what came with Ubuntu. ;-)12:12
looksaususerundefine, it's not that I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu12:12
peibolhey12:12
gdbandi5: for AIM, google talk, MSN, and Yahoo!12:12
Lars_Ggdb: I need a tool that lets me organize, search and maintain my collection, like amarok, rythmbox or juk12:12
peiboli need help with "evolution"12:12
looksausI can really find it out myself12:12
peibolcan someone helps me?12:12
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andi5peibol: what is up?12:13
dibblegoLars_G, can xmms play a m4a file?12:13
looksausbut it's nice to see this channel is still so very helpful12:13
Lars_Ggdb: But, I hate stuff that "makes" me add stuff to my collection for a single listen.12:13
peibolsorry by my english(im spanish)12:13
goonieshow can there not be one reference to gnome-window-decorator on the forums12:13
Lars_Gdibblego: It depends on the installed files. But basically yes it can12:13
Lars_Gpeibol: There's afaik an #ubuntu-es12:13
dibblegoLars_G, does that mean I need a plugin?12:13
liquiemgoonies, try g-w-d :) or tell us your problem12:13
Cornelliusliquiem: Differences between BMP and BMPX are... ?12:13
alex_how to set the permission for the directory /opt12:13
gdbLars_G: Well, I don't have 300GB of music, but I have ripped all my stuff in iTunes.  I use that to play music on my PC and just double click files on my server/workstation thing here.  I'd like an iTunes-like application to play that on Linux but I'm not sure if it will "prepare" the music folder in a way that will break iTunes.12:13
alex_??12:13
peibolwhen i try to insert an event in evolution it says me "yoy cant write"12:13
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Lars_Gdibblego: 12:14
Jowidibblego: m4a = .mp412:14
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Lars_Gdibblego: Yup12:14
peiboli know the existence of this channel but they are talking about phylosophy xD12:14
dibblegoLars_G ?12:14
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gumpishanyone know anything about yaboot? (The PPC bootloader)12:14
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liquiemCornellius, gstreamer-based, all fancy stuff like dbus, libnotify and so on12:14
gooniesliquiem, im trying to use compiz and xgl, but everytime i run gnome-window-decorator it restarts x, i previously made it run b4 without a problem, now all the sudden it just keeps restarting my x when i try it12:14
dibblegowhich plugin?12:14
gdbYes, I hate that "add to library just to hear once" thing, too.  If it's in the library, it's because I want to hear it again.  If I'm just clicking a file to play, it means I dunno if I wanna hear it again. ;-)12:14
Cornelliusliquiem: Ooohh12:14
liquiemCornellius, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage12:14
looksaususerundefine, I might have bumped into somewhat of a bug here though12:14
userundefinelooksaus, Yeah, gnomebaker is pretty weak, I don't see it there.  You can do it from CLI apparently but I haven't done it before.12:14
Jowidibblego: yes, you needa plugin. what application are you using? xmms-mp4 for xmms, bmp-mp4 for bmp12:14
alex_how to set the permission for the directory /opt12:14
gooniesi cant even get an error msg12:14
andi5peibol: are you trying to create a birthday?12:15
dibblegoJowi, ok thanks12:15
Lars_Gdibblego: xmms-mp412:15
gooniessince it just restarts x12:15
Cornelliusliquiem: Thanks12:15
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dibblegowhich repository is that available from?12:15
peiboli have modified permisions on tree directory and it says the same :S12:15
Jowi!info xmms-mp412:15
ubotuxmms-mp4: a mp4/aac audio player for xmms. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 128 kB12:15
gdbdibblego: easyubuntu ;-)12:15
Lars_Gdibblego: Wich will possibly pull along the libfaad library, wich is not "free" so you'll probably have to enable universe12:15
peibolno... i want to insert my exams in the calendar12:15
Lars_Gmultiverse12:15
liquiemgoonies, start g-w-d after compiz --replace gconf &. if that's not the problem, be sure you use compiz-gnome (dont recall the package name exactly)12:15
gdbdibblego: it will be either in universe or multiverse, probably multiverse12:15
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alex_how to set the permission for the directory /opt12:16
alex_?12:16
Cornellius!compiz12:16
Cornellius!xgl12:16
gooniesill try that12:16
andi5peibol: i just created an event, it is saved in ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system ....can you open and save that file?12:16
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alex_plz help12:17
dibblegostrange, I can't find it12:17
gdbalex_: What do you mean?12:17
andi5peibol: sorry, file name is calendar.ics12:17
liquiemdribble, i want flash 9, be more up-to-date ;)12:17
mweAlethes: sudo chmod12:17
kaninganyone knows if openoffice has been updated in Dapper12:17
gdbalex_: The permissions there should be correct.  Are you trying to install something there as a non-root user?12:17
mwealex_: ^^12:17
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peibolin private.. my english is the wost xD12:17
userundefinekaning,  updated to what12:17
dibblegokaning, it is version 2.0.212:17
mwealex_:  sudo chmod12:17
dribbleliquiem, see, that's what happens when linux is left behind..i dind't even know there WAS a flash nine ;)12:17
Dial_toneman, my cd/dvd volume is low but system sounds are way too loud12:17
kaningi know 2.0.3 has been released12:18
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alex_sudo chmod <directory>12:18
alex_?12:18
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kaningcheck on their website12:18
gdbkaning: It's 2.0.2. I don't know what version you're looking for, but that's what's in Dapper.12:18
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algor!wpa12:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs12:18
alex_and number? 777?12:18
andi5peibol: check the file i wrote ... do you have that?12:18
hobxquestion: I have two soundcards, and their card numbers in alsa switch randomly on reboot.12:18
peibolyes12:18
hobxSolution?12:18
liquiemdribble, thats the biggest story for now for linux and flash. win/mac got v9, linux still v712:18
gdbalex_: You do not want mode 777 on /opt12:18
andi5try your text editor on it... can you edit it?12:19
peiboli have it and i have "all users" permision12:19
eobanbyou dont want 777 on anything12:19
kaningalright thanks gdb12:19
gdbkaning: Sure thing.12:19
alex_which mode than12:19
alex_?12:19
revilotwhats the best program for viewing/managing photos including raw format12:19
kcbannerHi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?12:19
gdbalex_: You should have no reason to change the permissions on /opt from the default that's installed with the system.12:19
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ShadowLurkerMatrikz12:19
gdbalex_: So owner root, group root, permission 755.12:19
ShadowLurkeru here?12:19
andi5peibol: did you change anything?12:19
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userundefinerevilot, I like F-Spot, but you can use Picasa if you are familiar with it.  It has a Linux version now12:20
ShadowLurkerMatrikz: Are you there???12:20
peibolyes12:20
peiboli can12:20
revilotuserundefine: how do you view pics at 1:112:20
peiboli can read/write the file12:20
alex_sudo chmod 775 <directory>    -is that correct12:20
alex_?12:20
userundefinerevilot, 1:1 ?  Don't understand12:20
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ShadowLurkeri have a question12:21
revilotuserundefine: most viewer programs allow you to view the picture in actual pixels12:21
ShadowLurkercan someone help?12:21
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revilotuserundefine: full size12:21
ShadowLurkeri want to listen to .mp3 files12:21
ShadowLurkerand i found his link: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/12:21
revilotuserundefine: i can get f-spot to do that12:21
ShadowLurkerwhich one shoudl i download?12:21
lophyte!mp312:21
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:21
liquiemshadow`, yes, write down i use google on paper sheets and try asking your question directly12:21
andi5peibol: but not from evolution, right? i mean: when did you install ubuntu? long ago? maybe you want to (*warning*) delete your ~/.evolution and try again (*warning*)... this will delete your email of course :)12:21
lophyteShadowLurker: take a look at those links that ubotu spat out12:22
andi5peibol: try to avoid this "solution"12:22
stefg!restricted >shadowlurker12:22
ShadowLurkerthanks12:22
revilotuserundefine: i can zoom in but it doesnt tell me at what percentage its showing me the pic in12:22
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peiboli do this 3 "veces"12:22
peibolbut never try the calendar... im going to try :)12:22
pvdhmm, I Messed up my grub configuration.  I get a grub error 15. I tried to load the old ubuntu breezy cd and change up the partitions and set the root partition again, but it keeps saying my target file system is not clean so it wont install. I am using an other computer right now. But I have the other computer that is messed up right next to me.12:22
kcbannerHOW do I disconnect a connected user!12:22
Mugginnsquestion: i seem to have done something to lose my ability to surf computers in my windows workgroup. I used to be able to do it fine. what should i check ?12:22
`underOATH"Generating package: Ubuntu/6.06 ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 55: dpkg-architecture: command not found Error: unsupported architexture: Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install"12:22
userundefinerevilot, good question, I never noticed that.  That's something that should definitely be included12:22
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mytewhats the best player for playing regular dvd's (encrypted) ... and do i need to install something extra to handle the decryption ??12:23
gooniesno luck12:23
andi5peibol: sorry, what is "veces"?12:23
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kingruedii've installed flashplugin-nonfree. Now I can hear the sounds of the clips at video.google.com. But I can't see them (or the controls). The same with other flash plugins12:23
kcbannerHOW do I disconnect a connected user!12:23
peiboli cant12:23
Seveaskcbanner, kill his terminal12:23
pvdmyte, I like mplayer and you download libdvdcss3 or 2 for encryption12:23
revilotuserundefine: have you tried gphoto2?12:23
liquiempvd, what? you changed the partitions? or what exactly do you changed?12:23
mytecan i install all that with apt-get ?12:24
myteor got to do it from source ?12:24
kcbannerSeveas, yes but how12:24
dibblegohttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18679212:24
peiboli dont know the exactly word but "veces" is an spanish word that try to say..."ocasions"12:24
userundefinerevilot, hadn't heard of it until now.12:24
pvdmyte, you can do it with apt-get or synaptic12:24
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peibol"trys"12:24
Seveaskcbanner, find his terminal with ps f -e and kill it with kill -9 pid_of_his_terminal12:24
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kcbannerSeveas, thanks12:25
revilotuserundefine: do you shoot in raw or jpg12:25
kcbannerSeveas, it was an xdmcp session...does that matter12:25
peibolandi5, i cant insert an event whit your "solution"12:25
peibol:s12:25
andi5peibol: so you say you cannot delete ~/.evolution? .... btw do you mean three times? ;-)12:25
pvdmyte while your at it add the cipherphunk and seveas respositories to your sources.list12:25
userundefinerevilot, tiff, space permitting12:25
Seveasthen kill his session12:25
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peiboleeer you dont understand me12:25
userundefinerevilot, maybe this is old, but gphoto2 doesn't look that feature-full : http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/screenshots/gtkam/file.png12:25
andi5peibol: i am sorry about that :(12:26
revilotuserundefine: ya i didnt think so either but hadnt tried it yet12:26
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revilotuserundefine: f-spot is ok minus a few things12:26
userundefinerevilot, I agree, it could use some more features12:26
tach00hello, i need some help with the package manager12:26
peiboli were trying to delete files and "reinstall" to see if i can "only copy the folder and write on"12:26
nivansonDo anybody here have fglrx version 8.24.8 installed? The newest one (8.25.18) is broken with my r250 card. I need someone to send me the file: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from 8.24.8 (x86, dapper drake)12:26
kcbannerSeveas, I am killing the bash shell running on pts/0 but it does not go away when I kill it12:27
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andi5the first time i started firefox windows invaded my system... ps showed *.exe's ;-)12:27
peiboli can restart normally ALL the services but calendars no12:27
andi5s/firefox/f-spot/12:27
userundefinerevilot, there's one other I tried, I forget ....12:27
tach00i keep getting an error with the package kcemirror but i cant sem to remove it or fix it12:27
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peibolit say to me "calendar is read only mode12:27
peibol:S12:27
ShadowLurkerguyz, how do i get gstreamer plugins?12:28
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lophyteShadowLurker: system->administration->synaptic12:28
ShadowLurkerthanks12:28
liquiemShadowLurker, apt-cache search gstreamer-12:28
revilotShadowLurker: download easy ubuntu12:28
ShadowLurker*tries*12:28
userundefinerevilot, ah yes, I tried digikam but it had fewer features than f-spot and was kde-based12:28
an0malistMy hard drive consists of 1 Primay partition, then one Extended partition which includes my swap.  how can I shrink down my primary a few gigs, to create another primary to install another OS?12:29
revilotuserundefine: i really wish there was an open source raw editor, aside from uf-raw12:29
ShadowLurkerthanks about Easy Ubuntu12:29
ShadowLurkeri like that program12:29
gooniesi i want to use xfce, do i have to install xubuntu12:29
gooniesif*12:29
mwean0malist: what file system is it?12:29
Seveasgoonies, not per se12:29
gooniesse?12:30
an0malistmwe: ext312:30
mwean0malist: gparted then12:30
andi5an0malist: others will tell you probably, but what about shrinking the extended partition if it is not full of logical partitions?12:30
mwean0malist: or just parted12:30
an0malistmwe: I try that, but the resize option isn't available12:30
gooniesi want to run it alongside gnome12:30
moreatian0malist: I believe gparted can resize partitions12:30
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mwean0malist: you can't if it's mounted12:30
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mwean0malist: you need to boot a live cd to do it12:30
liquiemmoreati, not every fs-type12:30
an0malisthmm.. well its my main hard drive12:30
gooniesSeveas, whats se stand for12:30
an0malistahhh12:30
nivansonDo anybody here have fglrx version 8.24.8 installed? The newest one (8.25.18) is broken with my r250 card. I need someone to send me the file: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from 8.24.8 (x86, dapper drake). Please PM me.12:30
an0malistduh12:31
an0malistThanks guys12:31
tach00cant fix kcemirror error, even tried the few apt-get commands i know, can someone tell me how to fix  package error12:31
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an0malisti'll run the live cd12:31
an0malistthis room is the best12:31
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an0malist:D12:31
k3nobihi12:31
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Seveasnivanson, you could try 8.26.something12:31
k3nobii'm new to ubuntu how do I install firefox plugins like flash?12:31
nivansonSeveas: when did they get released? i can only find 25.12:31
nivansonk3nobi: read the manual at help.ubuntu.com >> community12:32
Seveasnivanson, few days ago by ati, they won't land in dapper officially but they are available from my repo (install ubuntu-fglrx-your_version)12:32
dagrump_hi all, i could use some help with recovery console, i broke x12:32
^thehatsrule^nivanson: afaik.. i thought the r2xx support was somewhat broken in 8.25/2612:32
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lophyteI wish openoffice draw had some nice clipart12:33
^thehatsrule^cant remember which one exactly12:33
userundefinerevilot, you may want to check out gimp-dcraw and gimp-ufraw packages.  apparently they allow for raw functioanlity in gimp12:33
andi5dagrump_: well, actually, this "recovery console" is at least 6 of them with a lot of power :)12:33
nivansonSeveas: May I have the adress to your rep? :) Thanks12:33
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Seveas!seveas > nivanson12:34
andi5dagrump_: so maybe you booted into a single environment, i dont know.... what is up? :)12:34
nivansonSeveas: Thanks alot :)12:34
gumpishhmmm, my software updates seems to be stalling out at "setting up capplets-data". The "task bar" button is fading in and out...12:34
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lophyteanyone know where one can get clipart for OOo draw?12:34
gumpishah there it goes12:34
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userundefinelophyte, try http://www.openclipart.org/12:35
dagrump_andi5: I need to edit xorg.conf & im not sure how to get from terminal12:35
roostishawwhat does the extention .o mean?12:35
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userundefinedagrump_, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:36
eobanbdagrump_, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf12:36
andi5userundefine: in console?12:36
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liquiemandi5, terminal :)12:36
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userundefineandi5, yes ^12:36
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dagrump_thanks ill try it12:36
eobanbuserundefine, clearly gedit is not going to work in a terminal, especially not if x is not running :)12:36
liquiemhe doesnt say if he's in X or not12:36
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andi5i thought console, not terminal....12:36
tach00can soeone please tell me how to fix a package error because i tried everything i know and stil get it every time i try to download somethng and istall it12:36
andi5he has broken X.... did not he? *wonder*12:37
jrattner1k12:37
eobanbtach00, well what is the error12:37
userundefineandi5, eobanb, I don't know, he said 'terminal', ie gui12:37
liquiemandi5, dont know :)12:37
tach00hang on ill paste it for you12:37
roostishawanyone,  what does the extention .o mean?12:37
eobanbtach00, if it's long, use pastebin please.12:37
andi5userundefine: hehe.... you know what terminal means, i do too, but not everyone :)12:37
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tach00what is pastebin? sorry new hre12:38
userundefineandi5, should've just said sudo vim ;)12:38
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eobanbuserundefine, if he said terminal, how would that indicate the gui12:38
userundefineeobanb, heh, nevermind12:39
andi5userundefine: i was just wondering what ubuntu suggests..... i have never liked vim.... s/never liked/always hated/g12:39
liquiemterminal implies X, console is just that, just ascii :)12:39
andi5ascii?12:39
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eobanbterminal in no way implies X.12:39
liquiemtextmode12:39
andi5eobanb: see screen, right? :)12:39
userundefineandi5, I think they suggest nano from CLI and gedit from gui.12:39
gumpishhow about Terminal with a capital T?12:39
tach00what is pastebin and how do i use it12:40
eobanb!pastebin12:40
bbrazil!pastebin12:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:40
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andi5userundefine: thanks for clearing up12:40
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tach00!pastebin12:40
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:40
dsascould someone explain to me how to add http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/edgy/ to my sources.list? I know that I need to add another deb line, but how do I find out the section name?12:41
eobanbdsas, discuss edgy in #ubuntu+112:41
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dsaseobanb: It's not actually an edgy repository12:41
andi5dsas: see system->administration->package management, you can add manual deb lines there12:41
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cyphaseis the next version of ubuntu going to have avahi support in cups?12:42
dsasandi5: I still need to know the section name to do that.12:42
andi5dsas: sorry! i mean system->administration->software properties (do not know english name)12:42
tach00forgive me, what do i do, put your name in pastbin and send?12:42
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eobanbtach00, you paste the link in here to the pastebin page you generated12:42
pumpi need help with a pinnacle pctv stereo12:42
kingruediargl! I deinstalled the flash plugin. Used easyubuntu to install it again. But still I can only hear but not see plugins in firefox12:42
tach00ok thank you, sorry to be a newbe but i really like ubuntu, if i can get it going lol12:43
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andi5tach00: did you restart firefox?12:43
eobanbandi5, what does his problem have to do with firefox12:43
andi5kingruedi: did you restart firefox? sorry eobanb and tach0012:43
kingruediyes12:43
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1688712:44
tach00like this12:44
eobanbtach00, yes12:44
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tach00than you for putting up with me12:44
ciaronany know why i get an error "no screens found" when trying to load a xgl session?12:44
tach00im getting three12:44
tach00there12:44
andi5kingruedi: what do you mean by "hear plugins"? does the page "about:plugins" show flash?12:45
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dliciaron, /j #ubuntu-xgl12:45
eobanbciaron, that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl12:45
ciaronah ok, ta12:45
eobanbtach00, what is it that you're trying to install12:45
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monomaniacpatWhat icon themes change the firefox logo?12:46
tach00well i a just trying to updt my system and download some apps from repositories and i guess something was  wrongwith kcemirror, NOW it wont let me do anything12:46
eobanbmonomaniacpat, a bunch of them?12:46
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lancer285can anyone tell me how to get my USB keyboard to control grub? I am not able to make any seleciotns besides the default because Ican't move the cursor12:46
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kingruediandi5: i think i found the problem. I made mv .mozilla mozilla-bu and started ff again. Suddenly it worked12:47
kingruedistrange12:47
monomaniacpatI used to have a specific one and have forgotten which it was ...12:47
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monomaniacpatYou can see it hidden behind a mouse symbol on the humility theme12:47
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andi5kingruedi: strange, indeed.... you can test your old profile again just as easy, of course :) .... but never change a running system ;-)12:47
PacketScanThis is weird i can not find a background image i like for my ubuntu desktop than the plain brown it came with.12:47
eobanbPacketScan, http://gnome-look.org12:48
PacketScanAll my windows are opaque tho so it's trippy.12:48
saxinhow can I upgrade linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386? I keep getting "The following packages have been kept back"12:48
PacketScaneobanb, ah good look.12:48
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gnomefreaksaxin: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade12:48
andi5actually, i do not know about you... but i stick with plain desktop colors,.... typically a light gray (bit darker than the gnome panels)12:48
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lancer285PacketScan: how do you get your windeows transparet?12:48
monomaniacpateobanb: it's the blue and white globe centred on africa12:49
saxingnomefreak, thanks, I will give it a try12:49
gnomefreakyw12:49
lancer285can anyone tell me how to make my usb keyboard work with grub?12:49
kingruediandi5: it is strange. Because the same profile with flash support worked fine until i reinstalled ubuntu12:49
PacketScanlancer285, most of the apps i'm using support it.12:49
eobanbtach00, what does apt-get update report12:49
PacketScanxchat, gnome terminal , etc.12:49
andi5lancer285: stupid question: can you enter the bios with your usb keyboard?12:49
lancer285yes,12:49
lancer285andi5: yes12:49
lancer285PacketScan: so it's not a theme or anything?12:50
PacketScannar12:50
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tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1688812:51
lancer285andi5: I can press delete to get into the bios, but as soon as it gets past that point, I can't use my keyboard12:51
tach00it just says its getting the updates12:51
andi5lancer285: well, i have usb keyboard too, but have always used it with a usb->ps adaptor..... because my keyboard never send all codes in usb... but maybe we find a solution12:51
lancer285andi5: I will see if I have a usb to ps2 adapter.12:51
dagrump_eobanb: that got me fixed thanks12:51
tach00tried #apt-get install -f, and #touch --help12:52
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andi5lancer285: but look into your bios, search for a usb keyboard check somewhere12:52
lancer285andi5: I looked. but I will double check.12:52
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andi5lancer285: maybe "legacy usb"?12:53
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tach00i know it has something to do with the package kcemirror, i just dont know how to fix the error12:54
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PacketScanandi5, sounds promising12:54
lancer285andi5:  okay, I will check that out! thankso12:54
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wastrelflash is causing firefox to crash in dapper- any way to fix?12:54
dapatrickQuick question: how can I forge apt-get (or some similar util) to allow to to install libapache2-mod-php4 when libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed?12:55
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dapatrickwastrel: I'm having the same problem but inconsistently.  Not on very flash application.12:55
Seveasdapatrick, those aren't mutually exclusive...12:55
dapatrickYes, I know.12:56
wastreldapatrick:  exactly12:56
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andi5dapatrick: simple answer: do not do it12:56
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tach00is there some #apt-get command to remove that package from the list so the system will move past it12:56
dapatrickSeveas: apt-get wants to remove php512:57
Seveasdapatrick, odd12:57
dapatrickYeah totally.  If you apt-get libapache2-mod-php412:57
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dapatrickYou'll see what I mean.12:57
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dapatrickI'd just like to be able to switch back and forth using sudo a2enmod/dismod12:58
dapatrickKnow what I mean?12:58
andi5dapatrick: use aptitude and tell it that you want to keep php512:58
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dapatrickaptitude.12:58
dapatrickOkay, thanks andi5.12:58
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andi5dapatrick: yeah, the third column has a A for automatic (also automatic removals) and M (for manual)12:58
dapatrickOh, no, curses.12:58
Seveasdapatrick, you don't need the package called php5 to keep libapache2-mod-php12:58
Seveashmmmmm12:59
andi5dapatrick: curses == bad?12:59
Seveasok, somwhow the packages now conflict12:59
Seveasfun12:59
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PacketScanSeveas, weeee12:59
dapatrickandi5: I'll make it.  I'm not a fan, but not a zealot.12:59
kingruediandi5: the problem was adblock. I didn't block it. So it is something different01:00
Seveasdapatrick, that basically makes it impossible to do what you want01:00
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andi5kingruedi: cool, i like solved problems :) .... but they slowly become boring ;-)01:00
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andi5s/slowly/fast/01:00
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dapatrickSeveas: I'm not sure what you mean?01:00
dapatrickI didn't mean php501:00
dapatrickI mean libapache2-mod-php501:00
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Seveasyeah libapache2-mod-php5 conflicts with libapache2-mod-php4 which means the packages don't want to be installed together01:01
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dapatrickCan I see what conflicts without downloading them?01:01
andi5dapatrick, Seveas: php5 & mod-php4 is ok, though01:02
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dapatrickRight.01:02
andi5dapatrick: aptitude shows them all... well, i like it... ;-)01:02
kingruedii think i'll try to reinstall adblock and check if it is okay.01:02
dapatrickThat's what I have now, but in the reverse.01:02
dapatrickBut I also want both apache modules, just not enabled at once.01:02
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dapatrickI was betting their shared libraries are named differently so in theory it shouldn't be a problem.01:03
mysticauroraI have a slight problem concerning the official version of Firefox and Fluxbox. I'm trying to get Firefox back into my /usr/bin, and into Fluxbox's right-click menu(it was automatically generated).01:03
freddyubuntuGuys , my eyes become tired of reading, I used to make the webpages be read by "Text To Speech" in Windows...how I can do that in Ubuntu , any user friendly program ?01:03
andi5dapatrick: yeah, install php{4,5} and switch between mod-php{4,5}... but i guess you want to do that anyway :)01:03
dapatrickbut apparently it is.01:03
dapatrickYeah.01:03
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Seveasfreddyubuntu, festival comes to mind - no idea how to use it though, maybe #ubuntu-accessibility can help01:04
andi5freddyubuntu: puhhh, the only thing i know about text2speech is festival... see Seveas01:04
Master_Svhi all01:04
RememberPOLhi01:04
kaotmysticaurora: do you need to move firefox or do you just want fluxbox's menu to see it?01:04
freddyubuntuI know festival is text2speech01:04
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freddyubuntubut I dont know how to use it01:04
neotardAre there any good lightweight, gtk, web browsers other than firefox and galeon?01:04
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andi5neotard: epiphany01:05
Master_Svany people for speak czech ?01:05
riddleboxanyone else having a problem with phpmyadmin not displaying, but firefox asking to download a file?01:05
Seveas!cz01:05
ubotuesk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.01:05
mysticauroraI've tried using 'cp' to copy the firefox shortcut from ~/firefox/ to /usr/bin, but when I try to start firefox through the term, it says it can't find mozilla's runtime directory.01:05
tach00check it out what i got when i ran # dpkg --configure -a01:05
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1689001:05
mysticaurorakaot: I just want it to show up on flux's menu.01:05
Master_Svok, sry01:05
dapatrickWTF.01:05
dapatrickaptitude is removing everything.01:05
andi5dapatrick: stop it01:05
RememberPOLIs there any package differences between the "Desktop/Server/Alternative" install CD ISOs available here: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/  (What _exactly_ is the main difference between the D/S/A derivatives?)01:05
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gnomefreakdapatrick: aptitude does that01:06
mysticauroradapatrick: Ctrl+C01:06
mysticaurorato cancel01:06
andi5dapatrick: choose _either_ synaptic or aptitude, they do not like each other01:06
andi5but you can correct that01:06
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Seveastach00, you need to boot inteo a server kernel01:06
neotardandi5:  thank you, will look.01:06
lophyteanyone know how I can convert a DAA file to an ISO?01:06
kaotmysticaurora: edit the menu file ( ~/.fluxbox/menu, usually), look for the firefox entry, specifiy the new path (~/firefox/whatever).  You may need to restart fluxbox afterwards.01:06
andreahi i succcesfully installed xgl/compiz....but every time i use the theme manager, the program crashes01:06
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tach00why wold i do that, im not running a server01:06
mysticauroraI remember there being a tool to use that makes fluxbox refresh its generated menu file.01:06
eobanbRememberPOL, Desktop is what you probably want to use.  the server version comes without xorg.  the alternative is an installer CD for ubuntu, but it has no liveCD function01:07
mysticauroraokay, I'll give that a shot.01:07
kaotmysticaurora: there probably is an automatic way, but I always did it the hard way because I'm a bonehead.01:07
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mysticaurorakaot: To be honest, I prefer the manual menu method. Lots more control. :P01:07
andi5dapatrick: the trick is to correct everything, so that aptitude will not install or deinstall anything when you press "g"01:08
kaotthere ya go then! :)01:08
mysticauroraThis is only a temporary setup, though. I'm buying my new box pretty soon.01:08
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Master_Svis are here any people who help me with pptp klient ?01:08
dapatrickandi5: Okay.01:08
dapatrickIs there a way to do it on the command line?01:08
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tach00Seveas: why do i nee to boot into a serve termina01:08
freddyubuntuso nobody here has ever used Text To Speech under ubuntu ?01:08
mysticauroraWeird..01:09
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mysticaurorakaot: [include]  (/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu)01:09
Master_Svi searching pptp klient for graphic mode for Ubuntu 6.06 v.586i ? give me link for download please01:09
mysticauroraI guess I should check out that file.01:09
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andi5dapatrick: well, i have never used synaptic extensively, so i do not really know what aptitude wants to change..... best, you fire up aptitude, press g once.... you will have categories like "will be removed".... go to the heading (starting with --) and press "+" for install (do not deinstall)...01:09
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andi5dapatrick: do the same with things to install, press "-" to inhibit installation01:10
dockohi does anyone know any ssl compliant ircd?01:10
andreawhy is my list of available keyboard layouts empty in System | Preferences | Keyboard?01:10
tach00is there a service app that ca be ran to fix problems in ubuntu system01:10
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dapatrickandi5: okay, thanks.01:10
tach00like system doctor01:10
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RememberPOLeobanb: Yes this will be used on a SDK/IDE laptop so I definitely want X installed but I was confused by the wording under Server intall CD..."install Ubuntu permanently on a computer" .. (as if you can't uinstall a system without X... or you can't permanently keep a system with X....) I think the server description should be in more detail, seeing as how the people who really need what it offers will actually understand 01:10
andi5dapatrick: good luck :)01:10
Master_Sv!pptp01:10
JUmare there any good money management programf for ubuntu?01:10
ubotuI know nothing about pptp01:10
RememberPOLThanks, have a nice day!01:10
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andi5JUm: gnucash 2.0 comes out soon :-D01:11
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JUmthanks andi01:11
andi5JUm: otherwise: grisbi, kmymoney & others01:11
mysticauroraHoly **** this menu file is huge!01:11
kaotmysticaurora: I just installed flux about 3 hours ago on this system, had to create the menu by hand from scratch.  Good fun.  I didn't like that menu creator dealie.01:11
JUmanything in the repositories?01:11
mysticauroraYeah, I got lost in the menu creator as well.01:11
andi5JUm: gnucash 1.8.12 is in the repositories, all the others too01:12
hybridpunkCurrently I have two hard drives installed, WindowsXP Professional on my main hard drive, and Ubuntu on my second hard drive, I was wondering if it was possible to access my Windows harddrive to play my mp3s (just read access, dont plan on moving files between linux-windows) Can anyone help me out on this please?01:12
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mysticauroraWhen I first installed fluxbox on my other box (before it died ;_;), I checked out fluxbox's site and got to learning. It's such an easy system for editing the menu.01:12
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Jowi!ntfs01:12
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions01:12
mysticauroraIt's part of why flux is my favorite window manager.01:12
hybridpunkThank you Ubotu!01:12
Morrowynwe need triple a games on ubuntu :)01:12
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andi5where is the place to send awards to ubotu? ;-)01:13
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dockoplease does anyone know any ssl compliant ircd?01:13
amonkeyi'm following a tutorial that says to edit /etc/modules.d/aliases, but that file does not exist. has it moved? i'm trying to get the nvidia driver working.01:13
Paladinedocko, most of them are01:14
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mysticauroraDo you mean an IRC client docko ?01:14
larson9999ok, so what's the trick to updating from 15-23 to 15-25 and keeping the nvidia gfx card working?01:14
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andi5amonkey: /etc/modutils.d/aliases?01:14
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kaotmysticaurora: irc server01:14
andi5amonkey: i hate myself.../etc/modprobe.d/aliases01:14
tach00is there an app like system doctor, that can be ran to fix problems within ubuntu???01:14
JUmhmm my sources.list must be broken again :-)01:14
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MatthewVtach00, what's the problem ??01:14
mysticauroraoh, okay.01:15
andi5JUm: why that?01:15
AdamG_FC6can someone tell me where the sudoers file is? I can't do anything as root...01:15
k3nobi_tach00: you wont find dr. watson on linux ;-p01:15
mysticaurora/etc/sudoers?01:15
eobanb!tell AdamG_FC6 about sudo01:15
amonkeyandi5, much thanks01:15
mysticauroraLet me check01:15
mysticauroraAdamG_FC6: /etc/sudoers01:15
JUmcos the reason i came in here was that i couldnt find any of those in my repositories :-)01:15
AdamG_FC6thx01:15
mysticaurorano problem01:15
mysticaurora:)01:15
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eobanbdocko, i think most ircds can do ssl01:16
tach00MatthewV: as ive stated before in this chat, there is an error involving kcemirror, and my system wont get past it, cant install anything else01:16
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andi5JUm: do you have universe?01:16
mysticauroraAdamG_FC6: Have you tried 'sudo su', entering your password, and changing root's password with 'passwd'?01:16
kaothey speaking of sudo... is there a way to autocomplete sudo commands?  or should I just be less lazy?01:16
JUmI just added them ;-)01:16
andi5JUm: apt-get update?01:16
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MatthewVoh, ok sry tach00 i just joined today :)01:16
AdamG_FC6Mysticaurora: can't01:17
mysticauroraThat sucks.01:17
JUmI've fixed it01:17
AdamG_FC6cause My user isn't in the sudoers file01:17
wastrelkaot:  you can set up bash to autocomplete i think, never bothered with it myself tho01:17
AdamG_FC6which I can't edit without root...01:17
JUmthanks andi01:17
tach00thats ok, im new to linux and this           chat01:17
mysticauroraAh01:17
nikidoes anyone know a good application for linux that's similar to Acid Pro for windows....i need something that's easy to mix multiple audio tracks with (preferably something besides audacity)01:17
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mysticauroraThat's right.01:17
andi5JUm: :)01:17
AdamG_FC6so on, so forth, for all eternity01:17
AdamG_FC6eh, well, that's what LiveCD's are for01:17
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c0re^hey everyone.01:17
kaotAdamG_FC6: how on earth did that happen?  (so I don't do it myself)01:17
byenhey guys.. have a quick question.. I want to burn an iso to install ubuntu. But it is a cdrw. shud i choose mutli-session or finalize session to use the cdrw01:18
AdamG_FC6Kaot: this is actually in Fedora6, not ubuntu01:18
MatthewVtach00, kcemirror is a prog. to control windows ce, right?01:18
byeni want to use the cdrw for other use later01:18
tach00ithink so01:18
AdamG_FC6but I messed up my grub, so I can't get to ubuntu01:18
andi5byen: my guess is finalize, but please please do not take that for granted :)01:18
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MatthewVtach00, do you actually use it?01:19
tach00i was updating and i guess i clicked on kcemirror on accident, however it has something that doesnt lik my system01:19
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neotardAdamG_FC6:  you can always get to a healthy partition, even if grub is screwed.  boot up off the install cd and use the live version of it.01:19
byenok. andi5.. lemme see if anyone else has any idea too.. thanks01:19
andreawhy does the desktop theme change when i use xgl?01:19
andreaand in turn, why does the theme manager programme crash?01:19
MatthewVtach00, can you start your system to uninstall it?01:19
tach00now i cant get rid of it01:19
neotardandrea:  because xgl only supports one theme01:19
AdamG_FC6neotard: Yeah, I've been doing that. But whenever I've been in the liveCD there's been no one to help me with GRUB... but I think I have it figured out now01:20
tach00i am running my system, but it wont let me uninstall it01:20
c0re^jesus the winehq channel is dead :(01:20
MatthewVtach00, error?01:20
andreaneotard: thank you01:20
neotardandrea:  xgl is a window manager itself, it's not as of the moment as friendly :)01:20
tach00hang on ill show you01:20
c0re^neotard: i installed it with ease, whats not friendly01:20
andreaneotard: the effects are cool though :O)01:20
MatthewVtach00, make sure you don't paste big errors in here, use pastebin or #flood01:21
andreaneotard: i just prefer the default ubuntu theme though....01:21
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16887 click this01:21
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gumpishDocument stubs make the baby jesus cry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstall01:21
neotardc0re^:  the themes.01:21
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elknof3hey hi everybody01:21
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andi5ok, one question: LTS = long time support, right? will there be no updates of applications like there have not been for breezy? only security updates?01:21
c0re^http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 easiest way to install xgl, but instead of using that (not latest compiz) get it from the compiz site.. which i forgot01:21
elknof3can somebody helpme configuring the microphone??  it a laptop with integrated mic...01:22
wastrelbreezy only gets security updates now afaik.01:22
tach00i get that error every time i try to istall/uninstall anything01:22
andi5i mean dapper now :)01:22
neotardandrea:  found a really nice theme setup I think :)  silicon borders, outcrop controls and flat-blue icons.01:22
MatthewVtach00, is it just me, or are you trying to reinstall or replace kcemirror, rather than remove it....?01:22
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JUmwhat is xgl and what difference would it make to my machine?01:22
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c0re^anyone with wine experience care to help me?01:22
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robJUm, it will crash more01:22
JUmlol01:23
rob:)01:23
tach00no, i tried to uninstall it, woldnt work, so i tried o reinstall it so i could uninstall it, still dont or01:23
andi5JUm: xgl is evil and it will make a difference between a running computer and a not-running computer01:23
tach00work01:23
nikiAcid Pro equivalent for linux?  anyone?01:23
johan_This is so weird, no matter how many times I change the loginscreen, it always reverts back to the default one. Has anyone had the same problem?01:23
andreaneotard: where are those options in the theme manager?01:23
neotardJUm:  Xgl is a fancy x server that uses graphics accelration to do eye candy.  it isn't an important, and sometimes problematic addition for many people.01:23
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ompaulniki, why not ask for a program that does X01:23
johan_niki: ardour is the only one that I know of. I haven't tried to install it yet though.01:23
nikii need a program that can mix multiple tracks of audio01:23
tlaxanybody else have weird problems with gnomes filemenus?01:23
JUmi tried to install it once and gnome wouldnt start properly01:23
c0re^is ubuntu supposed to detect my agp card as pci?01:23
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riddleboxhow can I tell what package something called lex is in?01:24
c0re^is ubuntu supposed to detect my agp card as pci?01:24
ompaul!repeat01:24
ubotuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience01:24
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neotardandrea:  think I downloaded silicon and outcrop off art.gnome.org, and flat-blue is a default icon set.  under themes you go to "theme details" and change each of the three areas to what you want.01:24
robniki, tried Kdenlive?01:24
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nikirob, nope....i'll look it up now, thanks :)01:24
andi5riddlebox: it is flex.... see packages.ubuntu.com01:24
ompaulriddlebox, apt-cache search lex01:24
tach00MatthewV: thats what i am trying to tell you,its like my sysem is hung on it01:24
neotardc0re^:  what do you mean detect it as pci?01:25
MatthewVtach00, maybe try uninstalling while in recovery mode, or use some of the --force options in dpkg?01:25
andreaneotard: in theme details i only get "controls" and "icons"01:25
robniki, rosegarden is supposed to be pretty good too01:25
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c0re^neotard: i go into the device manager, it says bus.info = pci01:25
mysticaurorakoat: Just because I'm lazy, do you happen to know how I can make a valid firefox shortcut in /usr/bin?01:25
neotardandrea:  if you're using xgl you can't control borders01:25
andreai like xgl :O)01:25
c0re^neotard: and has a pci tab01:25
tach00ok i will try the --force options, but i have not tried to reove it in ecovery mode, gess i will try that as well01:25
ompaulmysticaurora, it is thre already01:26
andreabut now it's obstructing practicality.....:O(01:26
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tach00So, there is nothing i can do while logged in huh?01:26
andi5c0re^: i have no idea, but do you have /sys/bus/agp?01:26
neotardc0re^:  *shrug*  agp is usually on the pci bus.  all agp cards detect there that I'm aware of.01:26
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wm0they.01:26
wm0tguys01:26
alex_how to install a .tar.gz file?01:26
wm0tim trying to mount an extended fat32 partition01:26
wm0tmount /dev/hda4 /home/wm0t/Desktop/fat32/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=00001:26
wm0tit wont work01:26
wm0tany ideas?01:26
c0re^andi5: let me check01:26
mysticauroraompaul: I uninstalled the ubuntu version of Fx and installed the official version (so I can make ColorZilla work)01:26
andi5neotard: ah, so agp is not a separate bus? fine :)01:26
mysticauroraSo /usr/bin/firefox doesn't exist01:26
neotardalex_:  tar.gz is an archive file, it's not an installation package necessarily.01:26
c0re^wm0t: did you create that directory?01:27
MatthewVtach00, yeah, its just a suggestion, as that will then make sure nothing else is running that might be using some files..... rather strange really01:27
wm0tyes of course01:27
c0re^wm0t: lol good01:27
tach00MatthewV: can ou give me an example of what command might work?01:27
tach00--force i mean01:27
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c0re^andi5: negatory, no agp directory within /sys/bus01:27
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neotardmysticaurora:  if you install the official version outside of a debian package, are you sure it install into /usr/bin?01:27
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ompaulalex_, usually you dont wnat to in most cases, what are you trying to install, apt-get has almost 20k packjages when configured correctly, tar xzgf File.tar.gz and then follow instrutions01:27
mysticauroraneoncode: I installed it to my home directory. <_<;;01:28
MatthewVtach00, maybe to force everything : sudo dpkg --remove --force-all kcemirror01:28
ubuntuHEY GUYS question, when installing under the new liveCD install, thhe mount points wont wipe my windows right ? its just how to mount the partitions in linux ???????????????01:28
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ubuntuit says "Prepare Mount Points"01:28
mysticauroraI tried copying the binary to /usr/bin but it said it couldn't find the mozilla runtime directory.01:28
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ubuntuanyone ?01:29
neotardmysticaurora:  then you need to manage that :)  non-debs don't necessarily magically configure themself.01:29
c0re^ubuntu: uhh, are you doing a manual partition install?01:29
andreaubuntu: make sure you do not mount on a current NTFS drive though01:29
mysticauroraso I had to run firefox through '~/firefox/firefox'01:29
johan_where do I get the desktop effects tools for compiz that comes installed with suse?01:29
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Toz#ubuntu-fr01:29
c0re^andi5: negatory, no agp directory within /sys/bus01:29
ubuntuc0re^ yes trying to  install without wiping my current windows01:29
wm0tandrea?01:29
ompaulmysticaurora, you need to install it there - have a look at the help file and "system help system doc > ubuntu packaging guidel"01:29
wm0tare you talking to me?01:29
neotardmysticaurora:  not the way I'd do it, but whatever works right? :)01:29
wm0tyes there is a ntfs partition on the same drive01:30
ompaul!xgl01:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:30
ubuntuc0re^ i have sda1 for my backup partition, sda2 as my windows, and / as my linux01:30
andi5c0re^: yes, .... i guess everything is ok.... or.... better shut your computer down immediately ;-)01:30
andreawmOt: no to ubuntu....01:30
mysticauroraompaul: Shouldn't I install new packages to /etc/ instead of /usr/bin?01:30
c0re^andi5: what?01:30
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c0re^andi5: wtf?01:30
mysticauroraI thought only shortcuts belong in /usr/bin01:30
ubuntuandrea read what i said to c0re^ does that make sense?01:30
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andi5c0re^: lol, you see smile ;-)01:30
wm0tah ok01:30
wm0twell..01:30
ompaulmysticaurora, no /usr/local but read that doc it may help you along01:30
wm0tany help people?01:30
mysticauroraokay01:30
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c0re^andi5: no no wait a second, what the hell are you talking about, turn off my computer01:30
neotardmysticaurora:  lsb defines /usr/bin as the place where "user binary programs" are installed01:31
tach00MathewV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1689301:31
ubuntuandrea am i making sense?01:31
tach00this is what that comand did01:31
c0re^andi5: so im supposed to have no agp directory within /sys/bus/?01:31
andreaubuntu: i'm assuming / is a seperate entry in your partition list01:31
neotardmysticaurora:  or rather, "system wide" binaries :)01:31
ompaulmysticaurora, frankly I don't approve of bringing in random new packages due to the fact that they can break what you already have installed in new and interesting ways01:31
andreaubuntu: if it is, then ur set01:31
ubuntuandrea yes01:31
andi5c0re^: yeah, or better take your computer and throw it into your local river :)01:31
ompaul!timetable01:31
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.01:31
c0re^andi5: oh coolio.01:31
jajaja-hey guys, I messed up my nvidia drivers and I cant get to the ubuntu login screen, just takes me to the prompt to fix it but I am unsure how01:31
c0re^andi5:  are you experienced with wine?01:31
ompaulmysticaurora, ^^ that last comment by ubotu01:31
andreaubuntu: you also need a partition for SWAP....a sort of "pagefile" drive01:32
ubuntuandrea i love the new live CD install, i remember days of old, when there were blue screens and black text01:32
andi5c0re^: you mean the winehq? i do not use it01:32
c0re^andi5: i desperately need my winecfg to stop dying when i hit the audio tab01:32
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c0re^andi5: ARGGHHH01:32
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ompauljajaja-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that01:32
c0re^andi5: nobody in #winehq is alive, so i have to ask here01:32
neotardjajaja-:  if you were tinkering with xorg.conf you might want to back it up and rerun "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:32
mysticauroraWhere can I find the help file to consult, ompaul ? I don't think I can get to system help through a menu since I'm using fluxbox.01:32
andi5c0re^: sure that this is the default wine irc channel?01:32
c0re^andi5: pretty sure01:32
neotardjajaja-:  then you'll need to restart gdm01:32
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ompaulmysticaurora, well it should be in /usr/share/docs and it is on line at help.ubuntu.com01:33
c0re^andi5: Topic for #winehq is End user/tech support channel for Wine (www.winehq.org)01:33
mysticauroraompaul: Alright, thanks. :)01:33
larson9999apparently i timed out so i'll try again:  i'm so confused.  shouldn't there be a linux-restricted-modules-2.15-25* in the same place there is a linux-restricted-modules-2.15-23* ?01:33
ompaulyw01:33
MatthewVtach00, try reinstalling it, using sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kcemirror_0.1.4-3ubuntu1_i386.deb01:33
andreaubuntu: i'm trying to learn to use linux slowly....its quite fun...and i found ubuntu perfect for my needs01:33
ompaullarson9999, so you mix and match, deathmatch 2006 and your cpu plays your binaries01:34
neotardbe careful with force O.o01:34
tach00ok01:34
c0re^andrea: especially xgl, it was easy to install right?01:34
ubuntuandrea hehe i started using linux back at the end of Hoary01:34
ompaul!reinstall01:34
ubotuTo renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages01:34
andi5c0re^: hm.... well, i would like to help you, but.... i follow a few but simply rules... one of them is not to use wine :)01:34
mysticauroraompaul: The packaging guide, correct?01:34
LobsterGute Nacht01:34
andi5Lobster: n801:34
ompaulmysticaurora, at a guess yes01:34
larson9999ompaul: errr, what?01:34
c0re^andi5: sorry, i have to due to Steam not being native to linux.01:34
ompaullarson9999, read ubotu01:34
MatthewVtach00, or maybe try what ubotu just said01:34
jajaja0hey guys, I messed up my nvidia drivers and I cant get to the ubuntu login screen, just takes me to the prompt to fix it but I am unsure how01:35
mysticauroraWhat exactly am I looking for again?01:35
mysticauroraThis channel moves so quickly..01:35
ubuntujajaja0 reinstall linux : )01:35
andi5c0re^: so what exactly happens?01:35
andreacOre^: for XGL i followed the help on the forums...didn't find any trouble....but I didn't like the way it disable themes01:35
jajaja0noooooo ubuntu01:35
ubuntulol01:35
ompauljajaja0, I answered that already: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that01:35
c0re^andrea: didnt disable mine...01:35
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ubuntujajaja0 boot in recovery mode01:35
jajaja0is there a way i can save all my myth settings ubuntu01:35
ubuntujajaja0 then do a reconfigure...01:36
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robertjwowzers, I'm stunned by how well WorldOfWarcraft worked. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft01:36
andreacOre^: it just lets me use a single theme....and the theme manager program crashes each time01:36
jajaja0i cant get into recovery mode ubuntu, does the same thing01:36
ubuntujajaja0 a reconfigure will not wipe the HD01:36
andreaso i'm back with normal desktop01:36
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c0re^andi5: i click the audio tab, and it dumps this into the console: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory01:36
c0re^Creating link /home/josh/.kde/socket-josh-ubuntu.01:36
c0re^can't create mcop directory01:36
jajaja0ubuntu how can i do a reconfigure?01:36
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c0re^andrea: i have a dark theme on mine, with xgl01:36
ompaul!enter01:36
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.01:36
c0re^andrea: changed after i installed01:36
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ompaulc0re^, that enter comment was for you01:37
ubuntujajaja0 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:37
andreacOre^: :o(01:37
ompaul!paste01:37
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)01:37
c0re^ok paul01:37
c0re^jesus01:37
mysticaurorapastebin is awesome.01:37
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c0re^channel nazi :(01:37
ompaulc0re^, less language01:37
c0re^sorry.01:37
c0re^haha01:37
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mysticauroraVery helpful for finding x-server errors01:37
andreacOre^: do you have the specific help page you used for XGL?01:37
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tach00MathewV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16894 for the last command01:38
skrummm!help mount01:38
ubotuI know nothing about help mount01:38
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skrummmaww01:38
skrummm!mount01:38
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks01:38
howy424Hi, I've just done my first ubuntu install, I did it on a brand new 80GB HD with two partitions, but it created it's own partition, which is only 3GB and too small by the looks of things01:38
tach00MatthwewV; for what uboto said, E: Couldn't find package kcemirror_0.1.4-3ubuntu1_i386.deb01:38
tach00i guess its not there and some log says it is01:39
tach00maybe01:39
skrummmhowy: did you manually edit the partition table?01:39
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burgermannIn the installed ubuntu apache package. Does anyone know what format locales must be? Since I'm from denmark da_DK should work, it doesn't know.01:39
tach00how can i get my system t overloo it01:39
tach00overlook01:39
MatthewVtach00, so ubotu 's didn't work either?? to be perfectly honest, I am... well... stuck01:39
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howy424no, the two partitions I created on the new drive were done in Win XP, one a 30GB FAT32 and another 50GB ntfs...01:40
tach00ME TOO,thats why i am herelol01:40
mjrburgermann, probably only the utf-8 locale is generated by default, try da_DK.utf801:40
howy424it didn't seem to recognise the FAT 32 drive, so I told it just use all the NTFS partition01:40
tach00could it e a bug in the OS?01:40
skrummmleave it unpartitoned01:40
ompaulhowy424, don't try to write to ntfs01:40
howy424the whole drive?01:40
skrummmno01:40
skrummmjust the ntfs section01:41
howy424that's what I'd read in the docs, and why I created a FAT 32 partition01:41
skrummmthen partition that bit with ubuntu01:41
tach00what file keeps the package managers lists? maybe if i remove the text line the system will oerlook it01:41
ubuntudont partition me, im evil !01:41
burgermannmjr: That might be a problem since the page is ISO, however you atleast pointed me in a direction to look01:41
burgermannmjr: so thx :)01:41
IntelligiI need serious help.01:42
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IntelligiAnd I can't seem to find it.01:42
skrummmalso, im on a live cd and i need to mount the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, but nothing seems to be working, any ideas?01:42
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howy424OK, so can I re-partition the FAT32 partition, so ubuntu can use all of it?01:42
skrummmdo you have an install of windows on this drive/01:42
skrummm?01:42
ubuntuyou can but most times yull loose all the date01:43
ompaulIntelligi, as you have been here for hours has it not occured to you that those who get help ask informed direct questions of the channel and wait for a reply01:43
ubuntudatat*01:43
tach00MatthewV: what file keeps the package managers lists? maybe if i remove the text line the system will overlook it01:43
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howy424skrumm: no, it's a drive dedicated for ubuntu01:43
HackmoHey all, does Ubuntu ship with GCC and other dev utils now?01:43
MatthewVtach00, i'm not sure if that would work, and i don't know :(01:43
ubuntuthen yes howy42401:43
skrummm@howy: then just format the entire drive and let the installer partition it01:43
ompaulHackmo, you should install build-essential and you will enjoy gcc01:43
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ubuntuhackmo sudo apt-get install is the tool for you01:44
howy424OK, so do I "re-install" ubuntu?01:44
Hackmoompaul: but it doesn't come with GCC as a standerd?01:44
apokryphosHackmo: not in a standard install, no.01:44
ompaulHackmo, it is on the disk not installed01:44
ggilbert_Hackmo: No, ubuntu doesn't come with a compiler out of the box01:44
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potokaholaaaaaaa01:44
skrummm@howy: yeah01:44
ompaul!es01:44
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.01:44
Hackmoapokryphos, ompaul, ggilbert: ok thanks :)01:45
potokaok01:45
howy424K, I am out of here to go do just that...01:45
potokabye01:45
howy424thanks for your help all!01:45
ompaulskrummm, this is irc @ does nothing it is in the public domain ;-)01:45
skrummm@howy: unless you have data you want ot save01:45
skrummmd'oh01:45
howy424nah, fresh install, can loose everything01:45
howy424thanks again, cya01:45
skrummmalright01:45
skrummmcool01:45
tach00ok so i guess i will go and see how long it takes me to go back to windows lol01:45
skrummmlet us know how it went01:45
IntelligiOk, why is my network no longer working? My wireless router should recognize my card (it did last night) in Ubuntu, and it should be DCHP IP-assigned and all that crap. I tried switching to Static IP and stuff, with settings I know work for my Xbox.01:45
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howy424will do, brb01:45
VieLGuS-KuTaShow do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying, the damn xmms wont compile for shit01:45
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IntelligiNothing works.01:46
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Bassettshow can i make svg into a png01:46
skrummmgimp01:46
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wastrelinkscape!01:46
apokryphosVieLGuS-KuTaS: language, please. And secondly -- kopete "needing" xmms -- what??01:46
Bassettsgimp wont open the svg01:46
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skrummmoh.01:46
Bassettsinkscape doesnt seem to save as png01:46
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skrummmsave it as something else01:47
skrummmthen open it in gimp?01:47
Bassettslike?01:47
skrummmbmp? xcf?01:47
ompaulIntelligi, I told you ndiswrapper eariler, if it worked last night then click on System Administration Networking and work on it from there01:47
skrummmsrsly, mounting a drive? anyone?01:47
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VieLGuS-KuTaSapokryphos: it needs xmms to compile01:47
IntelligiI have, and I've tried everything, and nothing works.01:47
apokryphosVieLGuS-KuTaS: no, it doesn't.01:47
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VieLGuS-KuTaSapokryphos: well im compiling it , and thats what it says01:48
ggilbert_apokryphos: Kopete had an xmms plugin at one point, so there might still be a build dependency in the package01:48
apokryphosVieLGuS-KuTaS: pastebin, please.01:48
ompaulskrummm, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/sillydrive - what exactly are you trying to do - not enough info01:48
apokryphosggilbert_: it would never be a build-dependency but an option01:48
Bassettsskrummm: inkscape doesnt save those01:48
VieLGuS-KuTaSapokryphos: alright01:48
ompaulIntelligi, get other card or router and test setup01:48
wastrelgimp can open pdf01:48
Bassettsthanks01:48
skrummmim on a live cd right now, trying to get into the hdd that ubuntu is installed on01:48
IntelligiIt's Ubuntu, not the card or the router.01:48
ompaulIntelligi, it does not stop working unless you do something01:48
apokryphosggilbert_ ; VieLGuS-KuTaS: think about it, Kopete is KDE's instant messenger. You think you need xmms to compile kde?01:48
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IntelligiWell, I shut Ubuntu off...01:48
IntelligiAnd then turned it back on.01:48
ggilbert_apokryphos: I am thinking about it :)01:49
ompaulIntelligi, did you try that menu I pointed you to?01:49
IntelligiYes, I have been screwing with it all day.01:49
kevinIntelligi, what card? If it is a Broadcom, I have mine working but only at home, no where else01:49
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anosai can't hear any sound with my creative SB sound card, help me... please01:49
ompaulIntelligi, so you installed got it working and between the install and the shutdown you added something that broke the network01:50
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apokryphosanosa: /msg ubotu sound01:50
IntelligiIt is a Xterasys XN-2511b.01:50
IntelligiNo, I didn't.01:50
Blissexanosa: troubleshooting section of http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html01:50
ompaulIntelligi, if it worked yesterday then it should work today01:50
IntelligiWell, possibly. I did download XMMS and VDL Media.01:50
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ggilbert_apokryphos: It build depends on xmms-dev01:50
ompaulIntelligi, and other things no doubt01:50
ggilbert_apokryphos: I just looked01:50
IntelligiNo.01:50
IntelligiI installed nothing else.01:51
apokryphosggilbert_: no, it doesn't. Only if you want the xmms multimedia plugin for the "now playing"01:51
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ompaulIntelligi, is it some kind of usb device?01:51
IntelligiNo, it is a PCI wireless card.01:51
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anosaapokryphos, Blissex >> thnx, i'll check it out01:51
ompaulIntelligi, does lspci show it?01:51
IntelligiHold on, brb.01:52
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ggilbert_apokryphos: I just looked at the control file. The kdenetwork package has a build-depend against xmms. It may not be necessary to run kopete, but he said build :)01:53
IntelligiYes, it does.01:53
skrummmalright, is there any way i can do a repair install of ubuntu?01:53
IntelligiIt shows it as a Linksy though, but the chipset is right (adm8-blah something).01:53
IntelligiThe wireless card is clearly recognized though.01:54
ompaulIntelligi, how did you get it to work the first time?01:54
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IntelligiI didn't have to do anything. It just worked.01:54
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IntelligiAs soon as I booted up.01:54
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ompaulIntelligi, got any other slots?01:54
IntelligiWhich is why I was so impressed with Ubuntu.01:54
IntelligiYeah.01:54
apokryphosggilbert_: if you're talking about output from build-dep kopete (or the control file) then that *only* means that the package was made to require kopete, or that the kopete in the repos was compiled with xmms  support... again impossible, since there's no xmms on Kubuntu01:54
IntelligiYou want me to move it to another PCI slot?01:55
ompaulwas it in one of them ?01:55
apokryphosggilbert_: *made to require xmms01:55
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IntelligiOf course it was in a PCI slot.01:55
IntelligiIT wouldn't fit anywhere else.01:55
ompaulIntelligi, that was misunderstood, was it in a slot other than the one it is in01:55
IntelligiNo, I have never moved it.01:56
ggilbert_apokryphos: erm. How would you build the debian package if ubuntu doesn't have all of the build dependencies?  ( and xmms is in the repository)01:56
ompaulIntelligi, okay do this - turn it off move it and turn it on again01:56
andi5Intelligi: beware... there are people that sawed off part of an agp(4x?) card to put it into a pci slot....01:56
Intelligilol01:56
IntelligiOk, I'll try that.01:56
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Intelligibrb01:56
andi5funny, but it did not work ;-)01:56
PacketScanandi5, i've seen that before.01:56
PacketScanpeople are stupid sometimes.01:56
andi5o man...01:57
fxroland2hi01:57
ompaulPacketScan, or missing some information01:57
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PacketScanompaul, sorry that's plain irrisponsible.01:57
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davidmccabeArgggh! My computer hardwarily crashed in the middle of upgrading to dapper!01:58
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apokryphosggilbert_: hm, actually, my bad -- very bad braino. Just realised that you would of course compile with xmms-dev even if there is no xmms for the distro just in case a user wished to use the plugin later.01:58
ompaulPacketScan, I would say, hard to justify01:58
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davidmccabeAt least it boots! How though do I resume the upgrade safely?01:58
ggilbert_apokryphos: :)01:58
apokryphosggilbert_: apologies for my bad jumping the gun =)01:58
mike-x2hi all01:58
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dibblego!flash01:58
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:58
skrummmalright, next question: how can i reset a xorg.conf on another hdd?01:58
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apokryphosggilbert_: though I did originally take him to mean compile depends ;-)01:58
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apokryphosskrummm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:59
ggilbert_apokryphos: Some things have the weirdest dependencies :)01:59
skrummmapok: even if im running on a livecd right now?01:59
mp3guyktorrent and azureus can't write to my fat32 partition, which is the one with all the free space, is there a way around this?01:59
apokryphosskrummm: indeed01:59
skrummmawesome, thanks01:59
apokryphosmp3guy: why can't they write to it?01:59
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apokryphosmp3guy: fat32 has file limit of 4 gigs or something, though, as I recall.01:59
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mp3guycan't create symlinks and "Operation Not Permitted" pretty much apokryphos02:00
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majdhey02:00
andi5mp3guy: did you mount them correctly?02:00
Intelligimoved, booting now.02:00
majdcan i install windows after i have ubuntu installed?02:00
Intelligibrb02:00
mp3guywhats the proper mount command andi5?02:00
ompaul!grub02:00
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:00
mp3guyfor fstab02:00
apokryphosmp3guy: is it mounted as read only?02:00
fxroland2how can i reinstall samba ,but dont loss the users group?02:00
apokryphosmajd: yes, but you'll need to read /msg ubotu grub02:00
mjrmp3guy, use another torrent client (I think rtorrent could work) or make a loopback ext2 file system in a fat32 file :] 02:01
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ompaulmajd, ^^ keep in mind what ubotu said - if you have not started start with windows - or just leave windows off the machine02:01
andi5!tell mp3guy about fat3202:01
mp3guyapokryphos and andi5, I'll paste my fstab line for the drive02:01
apokryphosk02:01
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mp3guy/dev/hda1       /home/thomas/stuff vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       102:02
skrummmaopk: i think that worked, thanks man!02:02
apokryphosVieLGuS-KuTaS: why are you trying to build kopete, by the way?02:02
skrummmi hope so, anyway02:02
majdapokryphos, so make sure i have a way to get grub...then install windows on a new partition i create during windows' installation?02:02
IntelligiThat worked. Thanks ompaul.02:02
IntelligiYou're the best!02:02
IntelligiWhy would that change anything though?02:02
fxroland2$ sudo aptitude install smbfs?02:02
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VieLGuS-KuTaSapokryphos: because i dont know any better02:02
ompaulIntelligi, - note this, pci and usb can at times do things we don't quite grok easiest to just move the device02:02
apokryphosmajd: basically, yes.02:03
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roostishawwhere can i find my apache2 'directive'? im trying to install relay...02:03
wastrelubuntu is krad02:03
majdapokryphos, thanks02:03
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andi5roostishaw: look into /etc/apache202:04
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apokryphosmp3guy: hm, looks fine. What happens if you touch /home/thomas/stuff/somefile ?02:04
r0bbyhumala, i'd prefer if you never sent me a memo via memoserv again in your lifetime kthx.02:04
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_james_how can I ping another use from Ubuntu?02:04
_james_how can I ping another use from Ubuntu?02:04
diatribeI was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?02:04
andi5r0bby: i was so lucky.... nobody has sent me one before ;-(02:04
mp3guynothing happens apokryphos02:04
r0bbyit's good.02:04
intellig1Yeah! Ubuntu!02:04
GigaClonanyone know how do get my mounted drives listed in the Places menu02:04
r0bbycherish the time you have.02:04
apokryphosmp3guy: not as root, right?02:04
mp3guyno02:05
r0bbyI sent a VERY nice message back =)02:05
r0bbyI don't think I'll be getting a reply :D02:05
roostishawandi5, so what do i do in there?02:05
apokryphosmp3guy: weird, it should work then. The file you're getting from the torrent isn't more than 4 gigs, is it?02:05
mp3guyno02:05
_james_how can I ping another use from Ubuntu ecery 5 secs?02:05
andi5roostishaw: well.... read README? ;-)02:05
apokryphosmp3guy: and what's the *exact* error from ktorrent?02:05
roostishawandi5, which one is the 'directive'?02:05
kr4zGigaClon: if you add the directory as a bookmark it should show up under Places02:05
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mp3guyI'll paste bin it02:05
apokryphosthanks02:05
ompaul_james_, ping -i 5 other.host.whatever02:05
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GigaClonkr4z, in Breezy it was there and on the desktop by default02:06
_james_ompaul: thanks! will that send a ping every 5secs?02:06
andi5r0bby: why that?02:06
kr4zah02:06
kr4zno idea then02:06
diatribeI was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?02:06
ompaul_james_, yes02:06
witlesshow does it feel to be part of the best damn distribution on the planet?02:06
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GigaClondamn fine02:07
witlesshell yeah02:07
andi5witless: i am not part of suse...02:07
ompaul_james_, man ping will give you more options than I could remember #02:07
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ompaul!offtopic02:07
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!02:07
_james_ompaul: will that be enough pings to disconnect them from IRC? :)02:07
visik7I know this is not In Topic but read this http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html02:07
witlessandi5: :-)02:07
diatribedumb ass02:07
ompaul_james_, don't even joke like that02:07
ompauldiatribe, what02:08
_james_ompaul: ;)02:08
r0bby.fn02:08
diatribe?02:08
_james_ompaul: sorry, was jk02:08
_james_ompaul: im using ping -c50 -i02:08
_james_ompaul: what does -c do excactly?02:08
johan_Has anyone had the problem of login screen theme not changing when I tell it to?02:08
roostishawandi5, hm... the install page of relay says "Apache isn't configured to read the .htaccess file, you must manualy enter the following into you websites directive."02:08
ompauldiatribe, to whom was that greeting addressed02:08
apokryphosmp3guy: what about touch /home/thomas/stuff/torrents/somefile ?02:08
intellig1How do I find out what my IP is?02:08
ompaulintellig1, ifconfig02:08
roostishawandi5, and then tells me what to add...02:08
andi5intellig1: www.whatismyip.com02:08
GigaClonwww.whatismyip.com02:08
diatribe_james_ and it wasnt a greeting02:08
mp3guyI found out that fat32 doesn't support symlinks...02:09
Apodemossomeone use the latest kernel version?02:09
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andi5mp3guy: oh, yes, that is correct ;-) welcome to fat02:09
apokryphosmp3guy: weird, I had a slight recollection that it did.02:09
apokryphosdang02:09
intellig1I tried accessing Ubuntu from winscp, but it said connection refused.02:09
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jribintellig1: did you install openssh-server on ubuntu?02:09
apokryphosmp3guy: weird that ktorrent tries to get around that problem using symlinks, really02:09
Miles_ProwerHello there02:10
roostishawandi5, any ideas?02:10
dliintellig1, you have to install sshd at your ubuntu side02:10
ompaultyrchyus, don't use away messages it more than a channel with 687 logged on need - do it silently with /away Some Message then no disturbance in the channel we all win02:10
intellig1How do I do that?02:10
WarOfAttritionobese32 kind of sucks for an OS, might be good for pen drives, cameras and such02:10
diatribeI was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?02:10
tyrchyussorry02:10
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ompauldiatribe, check the simlinks fir that02:10
jribintellig1: install the openssh-server package with your favorite package manager (synaptic, apt-get, aptitude...)02:10
dlidiatribe, bootsplash? I don't like bootsplash, it slows down the booting process02:10
andi5roostishaw: did you read README??? it tells you to add local confs to conf.d.... create a file and put your directives there... /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ..tada ;-)02:11
ompauldiatribe, check the simlinks for that image02:11
kevindiatribe, I think someone said to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org02:11
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kevinmaybe I was wrong02:11
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apokryphoskevin: xorg02:11
diatribehmm ok02:11
roostishawandi5, what is the filename? the new one i mean02:11
andi5roostishaw: arbitrary02:11
kevinapokryphos, woops02:11
Miles_ProwerI have a silly question: i'd need to find a computer connected to my wifi hotspot... I got the IP adress but i'd like to find out the physical location. Any clue on how to do this?02:11
ompaulintellig1, install openssh-server on ubuntu and install putty on that other thing02:12
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dliMiles_Prower, if you don't want to share, just block it :(02:13
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mp3guyfound a solution apokryphos, for azureus, in options>files "incremental file creation (required for fat32 under linux)"02:13
dliMiles_Prower, theoretically, you can call police02:13
_james_ompaul: how can I get xchat to hide any attempts to show my IP when someone types /dns _james_ ?02:13
andi5Miles_Prower: physical location? mini-gps? ;-) ... or better: galileo02:13
apokryphosmp3guy: nice02:13
Miles_ProwerI have no problem with sharing, I just want to walk to the guy and say "hello" :p02:13
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ompaulget a cloak02:13
apokryphosmp3guy: if there's no option like that on ktorrent, I really recommend filing a bug report02:13
apokryphosmp3guy: http://bugs.kde.org02:13
_james_ompaul: when I type /dns ompaul it says: Host ubuntu/member/ompaul not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)!  How can I get mine to do the same please?02:14
aragogandoHi I am trying to run the live cd and my usb mouse doesn't work but on FC which is installed on the computer it works just fine.  Any ideas?02:14
spadesMiles_Prower go around the place acting like publishers clearing house winner and make them confirm how theyre connected to the net02:14
andi5Miles_Prower: redirect port 80 for him ;-)02:14
_james_ompaul: how do I get a cloak like you have?02:14
ompaul_james_, get a cloak - check it out on www.freenode.net02:14
WarOfAttritionbootsplash isn't that slow - it looks nice02:14
apokryphos!cloak02:14
ubotuI know nothing about cloak02:14
_james_ompaul: can I get it for Breezy?02:14
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dliMiles_Prower, not easily for most wireless routers (not flexible enough)02:14
apokryphos!hostmask02:14
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ubotuTo get your own hostmask cloak, read this http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks02:14
Miles_Prowerspades, lol02:14
Miles_ProwerYeah dli, his ping cannot even give me a clue to about the distance02:15
_james_ompaul: can a beginner install it?02:15
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Miles_ProwerIt's like, totally randomn02:15
ompaul_james_, to get this one you need to be marked as a ubuntu member on launchpad - there is a whole process around it - found on the agenda page for the Community Council on the wiki02:15
dliMiles_Prower, use your wireless as the router, (hostap), you can route that IP to a default page, say, " Hello, call me to register"02:15
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Miles_Prowerandi5, redirect port 80 to my comp with a webpage saying "hi" could be fun yeah02:15
ompaul_james_, it is not installed by you - it is set up by the people in freenode02:16
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apokryphos_james_: anyone is entitled to an @unaffiliated/something cloak though (see the link above)02:16
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Miles_ProwerHm i'll need to install a webserver on my PC for this then, lol02:16
andi5lol02:16
ompauleternaljoy, apokryphos has a better answer -= the url is www.freenode.com02:17
andi5write a static one with python ;-)02:17
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eternaljoyompaul:  ok02:17
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aragogandoDoes anyone have any ideas why my mouse working in Fedora Core, but not Ubuntu?02:17
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Miles_ProwerMy last programming experience was on a C128 and i was freakin young, I have no clue about python ^^;02:17
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andi5aragogando: does you mouse wear a red .... hat?02:18
intellig1I just downloaded the drivers for my graphics card, an nVivida TNT2. It tells me in the system documentation to type sudo nvidia-glx config enable, but that doesn't do anything.02:18
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albatrozzCan anyone help me with an installation issue?02:18
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intellig1It says "sudo: nvidia-glx: command not found"02:18
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aragogandolol nope wears many hats02:18
skrummmagghhhhh02:18
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skrummmdidn't work02:18
gumpishok, so I have PXE boot working and have the installer running on the target machine - how do I get the installer to use the CD-ROM in the DHCP/TFTP server as an installation source?02:18
jribintellig1: it should say 'nvidia-glx-config' not 'nvidia-glx config'02:19
WarOfAttritionintellig1: I'm not sure but I think the linux nvidia driver doesn't support that far back02:19
skrummmalright, i need to repair xserver, how do i go about doing this?02:19
andi5aragogando: one definite way is always to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.... :) ... ok, correct font paths and alike, but i rocked a lot of distros this way :)02:19
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intellig1Then it is an error in the documentation.02:19
^richiefrichalbatrozz ?02:19
intellig1It does.02:19
paradiseompaul: will it work with xchat 2.4.4?02:19
WarOfAttritionI tried it on an old nvidia vanta card, and the drivers don't support it02:19
Miles_ProwerHm port 80 's already forwarded to another comp > VNC Oo02:19
aragogandoIt is a plain jane USB mouse and currently have FC installed on this box but heard how great ubuntu was so wanted to check it out, so have the live cd02:19
cougemhey grubs02:19
Edvinashow to change picture size through "gimp"02:19
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skrummmedv: right click, image, scale image02:20
^richiefrichEdvinas in the menu02:20
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roostishawhow do i install php?02:20
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intellig1I got an error, hold on...02:20
andi5aragogando: strange, i did not expect ubuntu to have problems with mice...02:20
^richiefrichsudo apt-get install php02:20
^richiefrichroostishaw  sudo apt-get install php02:20
apokryphosroostishaw: /msg ubotu php02:20
ompaulparadise, it is nothing to do with the client it is server side02:20
intellig1http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1690302:21
roostishaw^richiefrich, 'package not found'02:21
skrummm!xserver02:21
ubotuI know nothing about xserver02:21
skrummmagh02:21
anosai have 1 onboard soundcard (ac97) and i have creative SB soundcard on my system, the first one is working but the other one is not working , can somebody help me.. please02:21
^richiefrichroostishaw  sudo apt-get search  php02:21
Miles_ProwerI wonder if my laptop's built-in wifi (Centrino) can act as a hotspot?02:21
apokryphos^richiefrich: apt-cache02:21
andi5anosa: are they muted?02:21
jribintellig1: did you read what it says?02:21
aragogandookay thanks, guess i will hunt up a ps2 mouse and see if it likes that better02:21
roostishawsudo apt-get install php502:21
roostishawthanks though02:22
intellig1Yes. Did I understand what it says? No.02:22
albatrozzI'm trying to install to a single drive on an IDE channel, but Ubuntu tries to put grub on the boot sector of one of my RAID drives.  How do I get it to ignore those drives and just put the loader on the same drive as the installation?02:22
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^richiefrichahh there u go02:22
anosano,02:22
andi5aragogando: i am sorry, but maybe that helps :)02:22
anosai'm now using my ac9702:22
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F0LL0W3Ranosa try to check the bios to disable the built-in one02:22
skrummmapok, know how to repair/reinstall xserver?02:22
aragogandojust figured i would see if there were any known issues before i wasted a bunch of time on this.... ;-)02:22
andi5anosa: so what does "does not work" mean? it contains exactly as many information as if you said... it fails ;-)02:22
eternaljoyhi02:22
andi5s/many/much/02:23
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anosabut my creative won't work when i plug my speaker cable into it02:23
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F0LL0W3R<anosa> yea how could two sound drive work at the same time :)02:23
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jribintellig1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the config file that needs to be edited.  The program believes that yours has been modified, you can change the driver from nv to nvidia manually by editing the file with a text editor02:23
anosai mean i can't hear any sound from my creastive SB02:23
F0LL0W3R<anosa> should only one works02:23
paradiseompaul: I did what instructions said, and linked 2 nicks etc, yet its not working! Any advice?02:23
howy424hey folks, I'm back and now using ubuntu!02:24
intellig1How should I edit it, jrib?02:24
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anosayes, but i want my creative SB soundcard the one which works02:24
andi5anosa: well, one application will only play to once specified sound card by default, i guess02:24
jribintellig1: there should be a line that says Driver nv, just change that to Driver nvidia02:24
ompaulparadise, it is a freenode issue not a ubuntu one - may I suggest that you ask in ##anything02:24
intellig1Ok.02:25
paradiseompaul: you may not02:25
ompaulparadise, then I will say your offtopic for here02:25
F0LL0W3Ranosa so goto bios and on-board sound-drive make the value disabled02:25
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anosaF0LL0W3R: anosa so goto bios and on-board sound-drive make the value disabled >> i'll check it first, thnx a lot02:26
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Pitersburgsdamn, finally Skype 1.3 for Linux with ALSA02:26
nikiwhat's the console command to list a directories contents, but not files....like to make it only list the subdirectories of the current directory02:26
F0LL0W3R<anosa> any time sure :)02:26
anosaittekimasu...02:26
davidmccabeIf "regenerating the font cache" has been going on for at least fifteen minutes and it's not using any CPU or IO, does that mean it's toast?02:26
ompaulPitersburgs, in a deb yet?02:26
BHSPitMonkey_hi02:26
Pitersburgshttp://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html02:26
hedonisticAnyone willing to help me troubleshoot wireless problems?02:26
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BHSPitMonkey_when I return my laptop from Suspend mode, the display shows vertical brown stripes, and the system is completely frozen02:26
andi5niki: one way: "find . -type d"02:26
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BHSPitMonkey_thoughts?02:27
paradiseompaul: :)02:27
mp3guyall my columns in azureus are now broken02:27
F0LL0W3Rwhy kopete doesnt support audio conversation ?02:27
wastrelBHSPitMonkey_:  what video card do you have?02:27
spadesBHSPitMonkey_ try hitting alt f7 or ctrl alt f7 and see if it needed to jump back into gnome02:27
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nikiandi5, i only want a list of the directories in the current directories, not all recursive directories...know a way to do that?02:27
apokryphosF0LL0W3R: because they don't have many active developers atm unfortunately02:27
nikilike all folders in that folder02:27
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F0LL0W3R<apokryphos> aha ic so is there any progrman in ubuntu make that stuff ?02:28
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ryanakcais there a list of good linux games?02:28
intellig1It is saying I do not have permission to alter the file.02:28
andi5niki: i see, gimme a moment02:28
BHSPitMonkey_wastrel: an intel one (typical of dell)02:28
apokryphosF0LL0W3R: well, you can use skype.02:28
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BHSPitMonkey_spades: tried that, and killing X, and everything... system completely unresponsive as I said02:28
jribniki: what andi5 said but with -maxdepth 1 I think, maybe 0?02:28
F0LL0W3Rapokryphos but i want it for msn contacts :)02:29
andi5jrib: thanks, i just remembered :)02:29
apokryphosF0LL0W3R: I *think* gaim 2.0 beta has that, but I'm not sure.02:29
andi5i guess 102:29
F0LL0W3Rapokryphos oic btw thx alot i will try :002:29
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nikijrib, that works...now a way to make that only show nonhidden files?  :D02:30
hedonisticI have a Dell E1505 laptop with a BCM4311 wireless card, downloaded a version of ndiswrapper that was different from the one in synaptic, network manager now recognizes wlan0 (active), and when I click on the network manager icon, I see my network SSID with a full signal bar, I try to connect, and no connection materializes (router is set to no security atm, but I've tried WPA and WEP without success as well) - Any suggestions?02:30
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jribintellig1: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   <-- be sure to make a backup first, because if something goes wrong you will be without X02:30
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brett_Can anyone tell me how to start and manage an FTP server?  I just got FTPD server with synaptic, but it's not in any of th e menus02:30
apokryphosniki: pipe it into grep -v with './.'02:30
andi5niki: find . -name '[^.] *' -type d -maxdepth 102:31
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NickGarveybrett_: I don't know if you can manage that from a GUI02:31
Adam_Gallo.. anyone familiar with grub? I can get to the grub shell, but grub-install doesn't work02:31
NickGarveybrett_: all ftp servers I have dealt with are CLI only02:31
spadeshedonistic have you tried doing it via a terminal incase something is not working with the network manager?  iwconfig wlan0 essid $name and then dhclient wlan002:31
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brett_I'll start hitting the wiki...  can't be too tough02:32
hedonisticYes I have, I'll try it once more though02:32
apokryphos!doesn't work02:32
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ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.02:32
intellig1Now what, just restart?02:32
Adam_Gahh... got to change a tire... bbl02:32
alexiconhey people, is there a LAME encoder for [k] ubuntu02:32
andi5alexicon: you mean a graphical frontend?02:33
alexiconive got the kaudiocreator02:33
alexiconb ut it cant make an mp302:33
mjralexicon, in multiverse02:33
jribintellig1: just restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace, that will close everything so save what you are working on first02:33
alexiconok02:33
alexiconffmpeg??02:33
apokryphosalexicon: huh? kaudiocreator can make mp3s just fine02:33
mjrin uni- or multiverse, don't recall02:33
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wastrelniki:  you can do ls -F | grep \/$02:34
andi5alexicon: so what is wrong with the package lame?02:34
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spadeshedonistic also does dmesg have any conflicts at the end with anything wlan0 related as well, might be the driver or something02:34
alexiconhrm02:34
alexiconit just errored on the encoding02:34
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nikiwastrel, that works as well!  how do i make that a script so i can do it with one word?02:34
alexiconnot giving anymore details really02:34
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lukeNow I've installed XGL and Compiz, XMMS looks really wierd. Any ideas please??02:35
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andi5wastrel: yes, but if you start using it in a script you will want to remove the trailing slashes again and then you have a pipe again,... no easier then :)02:35
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wastreli dunno from script :] 02:35
tiglionabbitI just installed ubuntu dapper and I can't get sound from anything!  Sound worked fine in previous versions02:35
tiglionabbitcan anyone help me?02:35
alexiconlol tiglionabbit i had the same problem. no one could help me02:35
tiglionabbit=[02:36
alexiconi just did a fresh install of kubuntu02:36
tiglionabbitI've got Soundblaster Live 5.102:36
andi5ubotu, ubotu, does not work :)02:36
ubotuI know nothing about ubotu, does not work :)02:36
alexiconKubuntu is awesome!!!!!!!!02:36
alexiconthe install was so easy!!02:36
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bthorntonIs WPA2 compatible with 802.11g ?02:36
alexiconyeah says the encoder is not found... i just got ffmpeg tho02:36
alexiconhrm02:36
witlessi don't like kde much02:36
tiglionabbitwell it's easy for ubuntu too, but what's up with this-- why doesn't my sound work anymore?02:36
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alexicontiglionabbit: nothing worked when i updated to dapper02:37
alexiconi gave up on that install and just went fresh02:37
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hedonisticspade: dhclient returns: No DHCPOFFERS received.02:37
hedonisticNo working leases in persistent database - sleeping.02:37
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alexiconare you on a laptop??02:37
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tiglionabbitI'm using the livecd on my desktop02:37
alexiconhm02:37
andi5alexicon: what do you mean with encoder aso, asf? what about simple "apt-get install lame"?02:37
tiglionabbitI can't get it to play the sample ogg files02:37
bthorntonok I'm seeing how that's a dumb question; 802.11i = WPA2, correct?02:37
alexiconthanks andi5 i'll try apt02:37
tiglionabbityou guys probably want to install gstreamer-1.0-ugly or whatever it's called02:37
FunkyDiscoManDefectiveByDesign.org, today call to sign the petition calling upon Bono  (U2), to stand against DRM.02:38
FunkyDiscoManhttp://defectivebydesign.org/pressreleases02:38
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alexiconlame not available :/02:38
spadeshedonistic check your private messages :)02:38
andi5tiglionabbit: ogg is good :)02:38
alexiconogg doesnt work on my muvo :'(02:38
FunkyDiscoManogg is good, flac is better02:38
intelligiNvidia is working now.02:38
tiglionabbitalexicon: dude, search packages before you just try and apt-get something.  You have to spell it right02:38
alexiconi can only use mp3 and wmv D:02:38
andi5!tell alexicon about multiverse02:38
alexiconive got multiverse02:39
intelligiNow if my computer stays like this, hopefully I won't have to alter/add much more.02:39
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PaladineFunkyDiscoMan, this is the same Bono who ordered someone to take his private jet back accross the ocean to a concert venue he had been at the night before, to get his hat02:39
tiglionabbitanyway, grr.  Can anyone help me with soundblaster in dapper?02:39
alexicontiglionabbit: how do i search on apt02:39
tiglionabbitalexicon: apt-cache search, aptitude, or just use synaptic02:39
andi5tiglionabbit: what is wrong with "lame"?02:39
alexiconcheers02:39
tiglionabbit!info lame02:39
ubotulame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB02:39
PaladineBono is an uttermoron02:39
FunkyDiscoManyup but the twat caused half the problem with his apple ads02:39
tiglionabbitoh, it's called that now?  okay02:40
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gnomefreakPaladine: please bring that convo to #ubuntu-offtopic02:40
alexiconindeed there is no more lame02:40
alexiconoh well02:40
andi5alexicon: and you apt-get update?02:40
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alexiconi added the other repositories and adept doesnt see lame either02:40
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alexicononly thing thats close is toolame but thats mpeg202:41
tiglionabbiteh adept is pretty bad02:41
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alexiconi like adept a lot more than synaptic :P02:41
Tapeis there a decent alternative to GAIM?02:41
ryanakcais there a list of good linux games?02:41
alexiconkopete Tape02:41
Tapethanks02:41
tiglionabbitalexicon: why?  It's horrible.  It doesn't manage dependencies well at all and breaks things02:42
alexiconheh well only got it today02:42
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alexiconon the whole i LOVE kubuntu02:42
yfoxhello :302:42
alexiconwhere ubuntu was constantly falling to pieces on me02:42
tiglionabbitget synaptic if you don't want to break things02:42
andi5alexicon: falling to pieces?02:42
yfoxanyone friendly willing to help me get my repositories right02:42
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tiglionabbitalexicon: um, how?02:42
alexiconthat dist-update for one02:42
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alexiconbroke absolutely everything02:42
pjfcdoes anyone know how I determine what version of xserver I am running?02:43
alexiconanyway i get loads of broken packages with synaptic as well02:43
alexiconi prefer qt loads more than gtk anyway02:43
andi5alexicon: you mean dist-upgrade?02:43
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alexiconcan get a lot more information from adept about each package as well02:43
tiglionabbitalexicon: how could you get broken packages with synaptic?02:43
alexiconyeah andi502:43
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alexiconi have no idea tiglionabbit but i got them :P02:43
tiglionabbitalexicon: all of that information is available in synaptic as well02:43
tiglionabbittry right-clicking02:43
roostishawwhat command do i use to install mysql?02:43
alexicondpkg -f upgrade is my best friend02:43
alexiconlol02:43
alexiconanyway i gotta run02:43
roostishawthere are too many choises in synaptic02:44
alexiconthan ks for your help anyway02:44
yfoxin which repository can i find the package madwifi-source02:44
andi5alexicon: there is no substantial difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.... dist-upgrade _should_ work equally good in both distros, imho02:44
alexiconthe install for kubuntu was brilliant!02:44
tiglionabbituh okay.  Anyway, sound!  How do I make it work?02:44
alexiconanyway i gota run byebye02:44
albatrozzCan anyone tell me how to configure which partition GRUB installs to during installation?  Or, alternatively, how to install GRUB after the fact, from the Live CD, since Ubuntu is already installed.02:44
yfoxhelp help help :(02:44
tiglionabbitalbatrozz: grub should install to the partition marked as /boot02:45
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pjfcyfox: help with what?02:45
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yfoxin which repository can i find the package madwifi-source :(02:45
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tiglionabbit!info madwifi-source02:45
ubotuPackage madwifi-source does not exist in dapper02:45
yfoxit says package not found D:02:45
tiglionabbit!info madwifi02:45
ubotuPackage madwifi does not exist in dapper02:45
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yfoxoh shit02:45
albatrozzYou'd think so, but overwrote the boot sector of my RAID array.. I had to use the XP recovery console to repair it..02:45
paradiseanyone help me set up a cloak?02:45
andi5yfox: why do you need the source?02:46
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yfoxtrying to install madwifi-ng :/02:46
Traehow can I create a file that's 500M ?02:46
thomaswebbhello, i have a small problem, i am trying to ./configure gset-compiz but it says: checking for LIBGLADE... configure: error: No libglade-2.0 package information found, but i know libglade2/0 is installed02:46
Traejust need it for testing02:46
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paradisewhats the latest xchat?02:46
F0LL0W3Rhow can i make link for vfat partition to be appeared on the desktop ?02:46
Traedon't really care what is in the file.02:46
yfoxhttp://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi02:46
Traeparadise, xchat.org02:46
paradiseis xchat 2.4.4 old?02:46
yfoxInstallation (with module-assistant) 02:46
andi5Trae: dd if=/dev/zero of=$file bs=1m count=500  .... man dd can help you02:46
cyphasecan someone get Nexuiz into the repositories?02:46
cyphase:)02:47
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smacky_wolfHey guys. I'm trying to watch a protected DVD, and when I go to use the .sh script for libdvdread, it tells me no .deb is available. I use 64bit arch, so what can I do, as it just hangs and fails to do anything02:47
wastrelwhat's that?02:47
cyphasea game02:47
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cyphasehttp://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/02:47
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thomaswebbyfox, was that to me?02:47
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pjfcIs anyone out there using an nvidia card on their ubuntu linux installation?02:47
cyphasehttp://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/02:47
cyphasepjfc: me02:47
Knomepjfc: I am02:47
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cyphaseand a lot of other people02:47
thomaswebbpjfc me02:47
yfoxyeah anyone who can help :B02:47
yfoxthomaswebb02:48
cyphasepjfc, what's up?02:48
andi5pjfc: me02:48
Tmobanyone here run ubuntu on a dell laptop? (D410 perferably?) i can't get it to hibernate/suspend properly.. after i power them on, the X hangs up02:48
smacky_wolfpjfc, I am02:48
paradisehow can I install the latest xchat for breexy?02:48
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smacky_wolfparadise: Did you want the one in the repos, or a nEW xchat?02:48
thomaswebbyfox, i am not sure what you mean?02:48
hedonisticI have a Dell E1505 laptop with a BCM4311 wireless card, downloaded a version of ndiswrapper that was different from the one in synaptic, network manager now recognizes wlan0 (active), and when I click on the network manager icon, I see my network SSID with a full signal bar, I try to connect, and no connection materializes (router is set to no security atm, but I've tried WPA and WEP without success as well) - Any suggestions?02:48
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ExpediaGood bye everyone!!! :)02:49
yfoxtrying to do the Installation (with module-assistant) on http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi thomaswebb02:49
pjfcknome: after update installed the kernel 2.6.15-25-386, xserver won't load can use vesa to get it to load. nvidia still works with earlier kernel. Any ideas?02:49
paradisesmacky_wolf: whats diff?02:49
vader1102hedonistic, try doing this, sudo dhclient wlan0 and see what happens02:49
paradisesmacky_wolf: how can I install the latest xchat for breexy?02:49
Knomepjfc: nope not now sorry02:50
andi5paradise: well, where can i download breexy?02:50
pjfcKnome: thanks.  Are you using that kernel version?02:50
paradiseandi5: troll02:50
smacky_wolfParadise, do you actually want a newer version not available in the repos, or do you just wnat xchat?02:50
andi5ahh, you mean breezy?02:50
paradisecan someone tell me how I can install the latest xchat? im using 2.4.4 atm02:50
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paradisesmacky_wolf: whats diff?02:50
Knomepjfc: I haven't paid attention to that actually02:51
andi5paradise: compile it in your home directory02:51
smacky_wolfparadise: sudo apt-get install xchat02:51
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Flannelandi5: paradise to get the latest, you'll probably have to upgrade to dapper.  Each release of ubuntu sticks to a particular software release02:51
Flannelparadise: unless you want to compile yourself.02:51
hedonisticvader1102: The last two lines return -> No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.02:51
spadesi got xchat 2.6.0 on breezy02:51
smacky_wolfflannel: i don't think he really wants a different version to the rpo02:51
spadesmight be in a diff repo02:52
tiglionabbit=[  soundblaster not working.  Anyone?02:52
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pjfcknome: perhaps for a later conversation...check your menu.lst in the grub directory or take note next time you boot....it should tell you which kernel.02:52
vader1102hedonistic, I have the BCM4318 and have to use the bcmfwcutter package02:52
paradisesmacky_wolf: when I type sudo apt-get install xchat it says newvset version already02:52
andi5dapper = 2.6.1, latest = 2.6.4, you are never on the bleeding edge02:52
paradiseFlannel: how can I complile it myself?02:53
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karl!azureus02:53
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ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo02:53
marciofleurygood night for everybody!!! I'm new in linux and ubuntu and i have installed Ubuntu 5.10. What i have to do to update to the 6.06 version without doing other installation?? I can only substitute my source.list?????02:53
Flannelparadise: download the source, and compile it.02:53
paradiseandi5: listen here troll! where can I get 2.6.4?02:53
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apokryphosmarciofleury: please read the FAQ02:53
smacky_wolfHey guys. I'm trying to watch a protected DVD, and when I go to use the .sh script for libdvdread, it tells me no .deb is available. I use 64bit arch, so what can I do, as it just hangs and fails to do anything02:53
hedonisticvader, I followed a post on ubuntu forums to do just that and didn't have any luck...Network manager recognizes the card, the wifi led is on, ndiswrapper is installed, I just can't connect02:53
andi5paradise: the question is more why you need the latest version? are you sure 2.6.1 is not enough? and please, stop naming me a troll.... i tell you... google for xchat, click the first and goto download...02:54
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vader1102what does dmesg say hedonistic02:54
yfoxcan anyone help me install madwifi-ng on xubuntu ?02:54
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vader1102dies it give a link not ready?02:54
marciofleurythanks apokryphos!!! i'll try...02:54
Paladinesmacky, there is a 64bit package for libdvdcss202:54
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andi5yfox: before i forget it... maybe #ubuntu-kernel can02:54
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yfoxokk02:54
apokryphos!faq > marciofleury02:54
smacky_wolfPaladine, that link?02:55
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hedonisticvader, wlan0: no IPv6 routers present is the only relevant return02:55
kaothedonistic: stupid question, and probably ineffective given known bcm driver troubles, but:  did you reboot the router?  maybe it's just....burped.02:55
marciofleury!faq02:55
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage02:55
hedonistickaot, many times02:55
kaotk, just figgered i'd ask  :/02:55
spadeshedonistic does ndiswrapper -l return driver and hardware present?02:55
Paladinesmacky, I can't remember where I got it sec02:55
hedonisticspades, yes02:56
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paradiseandi5: I need latest to use cloaking02:56
vader1102hedonistic, what I have to do is sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any....02:56
[Nige] anyone know of a good dsl client?02:56
paradiseandi5: 2.4.4 doesnt work with cloak02:56
[Nige] well adslclient02:56
[Nige] :)02:56
vader1102then I have to do the sudo dhclient eth102:56
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andi5kaot: ask these questions.... was not long ago the last time someone phoned me and asked why the internet does not work.... well, after you switch the usb port from wlan receiver to the camera, you should switch back sometime :)02:56
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kaotlol02:56
Paladinesmacky_wolf, search synaptic for libdvdcss202:56
spadeshedonistic does iwlist wlan0 scanning find your ap?02:57
Paladineit is maintained by Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org>02:57
smacky_wolfPaladine, thanks02:57
paradiseandi5: im at: http://xchat.org/download/ , but which one I get for breezy?02:57
andi5paradise: argggh, i forgot that you talked about breezy (you said breexy, do you remember).... download the source and follow the instructions (INSTALL or such), there is info02:57
smacky_wolfPaladine, I have it already02:57
hedonisticvader, i don't have an eth1, I should replace that with wlan0, right?02:57
andi5paradise: compiling is nontrivial02:57
vader1102yes hedonistic02:58
paradiseandi5: define nontrivial02:58
Paladinesmacky_wolf, what you using to play the dvd with?02:58
Flannelparadise: mind, however, that you might have to tweak the install a bit to get it to play nice with ubuntu, and it might not integrate as well as the virgin package.02:58
paradiseandi5: do I get xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2  ?02:58
pjfcyfox: have you tried http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo02:58
yfoxwill have a look02:58
paradiseFlannel: lets leave the virgins out of this ;)02:58
PaladineI can only get css dvds to play in xine and mplayer, so try one of those02:58
paradiseFlannel: do I get xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2  ?02:58
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smacky_wolfPaladine, Xine. I tried the others I have and they failed, too02:58
Paladinesmacky_wolf, I had funky problems too, I got the solution from the ubu forums, but I can't remember what the solution was02:59
hedonisticspades, whats an AP? (sorry I'm new to this)02:59
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spadeshedonistic access point, your router02:59
smacky_wolfPaladine, OK, thanks. =302:59
vader1102Access Point02:59
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smaxwhat program/play can play .asx format ?03:00
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hedonisticspades, yes03:00
smaxerr player03:00
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Adam_Gokay, anyone familiar with Grub care to walk me through an install from the grub shell? Grub-install doesn't work and the docs are very esoteric...03:00
Paladinesmacky_wolf, mplayer kept telling me I didn't have a css decrypter03:00
[Nige] !adsl03:00
ubotuSetting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE03:00
spadeshedonistic also is your router set to give out dhcp and have enough open slots to offer?03:00
smacky_wolfPaladine, XINE does the same, and opthjers just creash03:00
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Paladinethere is a solution in the forums03:00
Paladinelemmie see if I can find it03:00
smacky_wolfPaladine, nvm, I can get it03:01
apokryphosAdam_G: have you read the information at /msg ubotu grub (they provide all the necessary information)03:01
albatrozzer, what's the password to su as root from the live cd?03:01
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apokryphosalbatrozz: please read the FAQ03:01
Adam_Gno, I'll do that03:01
Paladinesmacky_wolf, took me hours to ix the problem, wish I could remember what it was03:02
andi5paradise: i was searching for the unicode character for "not" ;-) ... well, download the source, then untar it (fileroller) somewhere in your /home/$user, then goto that directory, fakeroot ./configure ..... watch what it complains about... you will probably need build-essentials and libgnomeui-2.0-dev or such ... if you run it without errors, make and make install (with fakeroot), then check  "which xchat" ... should return /usr/local/bin/xchat03:02
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Paladinebut it was really annoying03:02
kaotalbatrozz: there isn't one.  anything requiring root privs you just sudo.03:02
paradiseandi5:  sudo apt-get build-dep xchat ; apt-get -b source xchat;03:02
smacky_wolfPaladine, sounds like a lot of problems 64bhit has =/03:02
andi5paradise: oh, bullshit, sorry..... only fakeroot before you "make install"03:02
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paradiseandi5: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat ; apt-get -b source xchat;03:02
hedonisticvader, your suggestion did not work03:02
albatrozzok thanks03:02
clparkerHow can I make vino vnc server startup automatically without needing to login?03:02
Adam_Gapokryphos: just read the howto in the /msg ubotu grub- that's exactly what's not working03:02
Paladinesmacky, yeah it has caused be a few issues, finally getting the creases ironed out though03:03
tiglionabbitalbatrozz: instead of saying su root, you can sudo -s03:03
andi5paradise: your decision .... rebuild 2.4.4, do whatever you want03:03
smacky_wolfPaladine, which other issues did you have?03:03
albatrozzThanks :)03:03
apokryphosAdam_G: not working means almost nothing if you're not more specific ;-)03:03
Paladinesmacky_wolf, the only problem I think I have now is stupid locale warning with Xlib03:03
paradiseandi5: I download from source03:03
apokryphostiglionabbit: sudo -i is the recommended method03:03
hedonisticspades, yes it is, I can connect fine in windows03:03
Adam_G"could not find device for /boot03:03
tiglionabbitoh, okay03:03
Adam_Gbut the grubb shell does work03:03
andi5paradise: maybe you should really dist-upgrade to dapper?03:04
fdsdHey guys, I want to take every pkg out of ubuntu except what is needed to boot and run mount, awk, the command line utils and bash.. Anyone know how I can do this?03:04
Paladinesmacky_wolf, the "locale is not supported by Xlib" warnings03:04
apokryphosAdam_G: ok, please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l03:04
paradiseandi5: I downloaded xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2!  what next?03:04
smacky_wolfPaladine, Bite it. XD. I had major problems with EVERYTHING before I went to dapper. Sound never worked, video was screwed, and countless other things03:04
Flannelfdsd: install the server install, it only has ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal, then you can work down from there.03:04
paradiseandi5: I cant, using a modem03:04
spadeshedonistic have you tried setting a static ip on wlan0, disabling eth0, and pinging the router?03:04
spadesthis would kick you off irc tho03:04
paradiseandi5: I downloaded xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2 and extracted, next?03:04
andi5Paladine: beware, write UTF-8 in your lang env variables, as xlib does not know the abbs utf8 and alike, glibc uses03:04
Adam_Gkk, doing now03:04
fdsdFlannel, do you know if there is a ubuntu livecd for ppc like that?03:05
apokryphosfdsd: there is, yes.03:05
andi5paradise: ./configure03:05
Flannelfdsd: a liveCD? what?03:05
Paladinesmacky_wolf, sond is almost working properly for me now, still a few issues with the surround51 device in certain apps03:05
fdsdapokryphos, where can I get it?03:05
Flannelfdsd: Why do you want a liveCD?03:05
Paladinesmacky_wolf, I had some serious problems with openoffice.org too03:05
fdsdFlannel, I am looking ot make my own live cd with no X11, just command line03:05
fdsdapokryphos, where can I find it03:06
apokryphosfdsd: sorry, I thought you just meant ubuntu live cd for ppc03:06
hedonisticspades, I'm not sure how to set a static ip on wlan0...03:06
smacky_wolfPaladine, everything magically "Just Worked" in dapper. There's somthing broken with my OpenOffice, too. It keeps whining about some plugins not working03:06
paradiseandi5: ok! its doing something now./03:06
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andi5fdsd: cannot you boot the live cd with parameter single? (i do not know)03:06
Paladinesmacky_wolf, the problem with OOo was the pango stuff03:06
Flannelfdsd: oh.  Gotcha.  not an install.  Um, Theres a wiki page, about rolling your own liveCD, I believe.  But yeah, server installs ubuntubase and ubuntu-standard.  That's basically what youre looking for.  Just as a liveCD03:06
paradiseandi5: do I type make now?03:06
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Paladinesmacky_wolf, was killing the font for Save As dialog03:06
patrickjfor the ubuntu wine package, where does wine get installed ?03:07
kaothedonistic: what does iwconfig show?03:07
andi5paradise: did it look good? last lines began with config.status: creating...?03:07
fdsdFlannel, can you point me to the ppc iso for that?03:07
HBuzacottpatrickj, /usr/bin/wine03:07
smacky_wolfPaladine, =/03:07
andi5paradise: maybe enter "echo $?"03:07
paradiseandi5: let me look03:07
Flannelfdsd: there is no liveCD server.03:07
paradiseandi5: still going03:07
paradiseandi5: ill let you know what last line is03:07
Paladinesmacky_wolf, fixed it now, I use a 32 bit wraper script to make OOo use the correct libs and paths03:07
HBuzacottpatrickj, the fake C drive is in ~/.wine/fake_c03:07
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patrickjoh okay :P03:07
kaothedonistic: also you can set static ip in system -> administration -> network03:07
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anosathnx for all who gave solutions for me, my creative SB is now workin', i mean i can hear the sound03:08
hedonistickaot, it shows stuff under wlan003:08
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fdsdFlannel, okay ill look into it, thanks03:08
elementhow developed and how well supported is AMD64 ubuntu? I'm considering switching to it from windows...03:08
patrickjI know but im trying to put on the wow wine patch for 0.9.1603:08
kaothedonistic: do you have an ESSID?03:08
andi5hey, why does documentation say you can click an "add" button in system->admin->network? there is NO03:08
apokryphoselement: check the FAQ03:08
hedonistickaot, yes03:08
anosaafter i disable my onboard soundcard03:08
Flannelfdsd: however, there are other liveCDs that already do this.  You might try looking into premade solutions into rolling your own, but heres a link with some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization03:08
kaothm03:08
elementapokryphos: I'd like some human feedback and experience results with it03:08
smacky_wolfPaladine, nice. I considered reinstalling everything in 32bit. FireFox is evil, so I am using an unsupported build my friend from MozDev made me03:08
kaotso you're talking to the AP03:08
paradiseandi5: kast line said: onfigure complete, now type 'make' and pray.03:08
paradiseandi5: type make now?03:08
kaotyou've got an Access Point Mac there and all03:09
clparkerHow can I make vino vnc server startup automatically without needing to login?03:09
apokryphoselement: the entry in the FAQ is written by a human, I assure you :). It outlines all the basic pros/cons, please read it :)03:09
smacky_wolfPaladine, FireFox 64 is unsupported. They won't make them usually.03:09
paradiseandi5: sudo make or make ?03:09
spadeshedonistic edit /etc/network/interfaces and put: iface wlan0 inet static // address 192.168.1.103 // netmask 255.255.255.252 // gateway 192.168.1.1    replace those with the proper addresses and then restart your networking daemon (sudo invokerc.d networking restart)03:09
andi5paradise: no, wait 5 minutes and ask each 5 seconds ;-)03:09
paradiseandi5: what?03:09
Adam_Gakay, apokryphos: http://pastebin.ca/7608903:09
apokryphoselement: if you have more questions after that, please feel free to ask.03:09
elementapokryphos: oooook, will do.03:09
Paladinesmacky_wolf, I think I am the only person who like the lack of flash support in 64bit ff :) means I get no more annoying flash stuff on website bwahaha03:09
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Adam_Gsda1 is the drive I want to reinstall grub to03:09
paradiseandi5: I typ\ed make03:09
apokryphosAdam_G: so....... sudo /sbin/grub03:09
smacky_wolfPaladine, adblock is beautiful =303:10
apokryphosAdam_G: root (hd0,0)03:10
Paladineyeah I have adblock installed03:10
spadeshedonistic backup /etc/network/interfaces so you can revert back to it and get back on irc if it dont work03:10
edavis10Paladine: I like the lack of flash in PPC also :)03:10
apokryphosAdam_G: setup (hd0)03:10
Adam_Gokay...03:10
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patrickjany idea where I put the wow_patch?03:10
andi5paradise: if it works "fakeroot make install"03:10
elementapokryphos: how well supported is dual monitors? easy to setup?03:10
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andi5paradise: well, maybe you need to be root.... so sudo make install03:11
apokryphoselement: not officially supported, but you may well get it set up with xinerama.03:11
paradiseandi5: I typed make03:11
elementapokryphos: hmmm ok03:11
paradiseandi5: and its doing something03:11
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apokryphoselement: see /msg ubotu xinerama for more info03:11
paradiseandi5: should I instead have typed sudo make install?03:11
elementapokryphos: ok thx03:11
andi5paradise: yes, it is a weird translator from one language we know a bit to a language we know very little03:12
Paladinehmmm I can smell burning paper03:12
Adam_Galright, apokryphos, looks like it worked... thanks for the help03:12
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Paladinebut it is 2am03:12
Paladineweird03:12
apokryphosAdam_G: np03:12
Adam_Ghopefully I'll be back on from xubuntu soon :)03:12
andi5paradise: no, let it make.... first make, then install03:12
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apokryphoscheckinstall might be a better idea03:12
paradiseandi5: notying was created03:12
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paradiseandi5: make finished but no file was created03:13
andi5paradise: what do you mean with "no file was created"?03:13
paradiseandi5: make finished, so now what?03:13
paradiseandi5: i dont see anything new03:13
hedonisticspades, that command didn't work to restart the networking daemon03:13
andi5paradise: yes, what do you expect, shall every start blinking?03:13
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andi5apokryphos: how do you call checkinstall?03:13
paradiseandi5: make finished, so now what?03:13
spadeshedonistic try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart03:14
paradiseandi5: whats next?03:14
apokryphos!checkinstall03:14
ubotucheckinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall03:14
apokryphosandi5: basically you configure, make, then sudo checkinstall and it creates the deb for you03:14
andi5paradise: do not drive me crazy, please :) first: i have told you twice, now apokryphos made a better advice, but you seem to ignore everything :)03:14
andi5paradise: so.... sudo checkinstall seems to do it03:15
apokryphosparadise: if you're compiling you really should read the FAQ entry on it first.03:15
paradiseapokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! whats my first step please?03:15
dagrump_i just spit beer on my monitor who needs tv03:15
paradiseapokryphos: I did ./configure03:15
apokryphosparadise: first step is reading the FAQ :)03:15
NickGarveyparadise: less README03:15
paradiseapokryphos: whats after that?03:15
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paradiseapokryphos: I read FAQ03:15
apokryphosparadise: then you'd know what to do03:15
NickGarveyparadise: or maybe less INSTALL03:15
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andi5apokryphos: first step is to join #ubuntu and ask why xchat is not installed still....03:16
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kbrooksandi5: you are HERE :-)03:16
apokryphosandi5: they took it out in dapper for gaim to be default irc client03:16
wastreli have xchat03:16
paradiseinstall: No such file or directory03:16
kbrooksapokryphos: no, wrong03:16
NickGarveyyeah, suse doesn't have xchat either03:16
spadesparadise INSTALL, its case sensitive03:16
andi5apokryphos: oh, yes, breezy had xchat, right :) well, it is long ago i used xchat ;-)03:16
kbrooksapokryphos: they replaced it with xchat-gnome03:17
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apokryphoskbrooks: erm, no....... dapper has no xchat on install.03:17
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hedonisticspades is there a particular way to enter that information into the file?  it won't read it...I commented out iface wlan0 inet dhcp (with ##, right?)03:17
dhanwho can help me how to save a doc. in a floopy disc??03:17
andi5kbrooks: what NEXT? ;-)03:17
dhantanx!!03:17
kbrooksapokryphos: "xchat-gnome" read carefully03:17
wastreli don't think there's any irc client on install03:17
paradiseapokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that03:18
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anosai love this channel03:18
FunkyDiscoManlol03:18
spadeshedonistic do you see a tab with my name on your bar, thats the private messages, see we can have direct no clutter convo :)03:18
kbrooksapokryphos: i didnt say xchat, i said ** ** ** xchat-gnome ** ** **03:18
spiderbatdad.anyone know how to completely purge enemy territory. can't find uninstall info in any of the docs.03:18
tehbioCan anyone connect to MSN through Gaim?03:18
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apokryphoskbrooks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.list search carefully03:18
NickGarveytehbio: did you compile it yourself?03:18
MacSlowGreetings everybody!03:18
NickGarveyMacSlow: hello :)03:18
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apokryphoskbrooks: I didn't say *anything* about xchat-gnome, and I didn't say anything about being available anywhere else.03:18
dhanpls help me03:18
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tehbioNickGarvey, No, it was also working fine earlier yesterday...03:18
hedonisticspades, no I don't03:18
paradiseapokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that03:18
dhani badlyy need your answers!!03:19
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smacky_wolfHey, has anyone used a Zen Creative with Ubuntu successfully?03:19
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andi5spiderbatdad: sorry, _what_ do you want to do? :)03:19
paradiseapokryphos: whats wrong?03:19
apokryphosubotu: tell paradise about repeat03:19
MacSlowhi nicholaspaul03:19
tehbioNickGarvey, I can also connect to every other protocol.03:19
gnomefreakparadise: make install03:19
NickGarveytehbio: hmm.. not sure, I am installing gaim now with ssl support so let me try when it works03:19
MacSlowhi NickGarvey rather03:19
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tehbioNickGarvey, Alright.03:19
wastrelsmacky_wolf:  yes, check here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19925003:19
spiderbatdadandi5: uninstall enemy territory03:19
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paradisegnomefreak: after i type .configure I type "sudo make install" ?03:19
kbrooksgaim sucks03:19
NickGarveytehbio: compiling as we speak :)03:19
OffHandcan anyone tell me how it is possible that my swap is mounted on the desktop while the fstab is set to none?03:19
tehbiokbrooks, What would you recommend?03:19
andi5spiderbatdad: ah.... that is a game?.... you installed via apt like every good debian/ubuntu guy?03:19
NickGarveykbrooks: good for multi protocol stuff03:19
gnomefreakparadise: ,.configure <options>   than make than sudo make install03:20
smacky_wolfWastrel, I connected my friends to my machine and it just went... "..Oh, sorry. You want to ACCESS this? ..I don't think so."03:20
kbrookstehbio: i wasnt talking to u03:20
gnomefreak./configure <options>03:20
spiderbatdadandi5: no wget http://03:20
kbrooksNickGarvey: i mean, i hear that gaim sucks for irc03:20
paradisegnomefreak: 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo make install ?03:20
NickGarveykbrooks: yup :)03:20
andi5spiderbatdad: i guess this is a bit to little information to get the full source ;-)03:20
wastrelsmacky_wolf:  you have to install the current version of gnomad2, that forum post has instructions.03:20
NickGarveykbrooks: I switched to xchat today03:20
wastreli like xchat03:21
smacky_wolfWastrel. Cool. Thanks. =303:21
gnomefreakparadise: yes or instead of make install you can use sudo checkinstall03:21
spadeshedonistic download http://www.3spades.net/interfaces and stick that in /etc/network  backup the current one, then edit to make sure if fits with how your router is setup and try restarting networking03:21
paradisegnomefreak: ok ty! ill try that03:21
spiderbatdadhoped someone had done it before. I can't find any uninstall info03:21
andi5spiderbatdad: sorry, i received only no wget http:// , to trailing slashes, no more03:21
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tehbioHurrah, WPA works!03:22
NickGarveyspiderbatdad: hmm.. yeah I'm not sure how to delete things that don't have make uninstall, just delete the bins and docs I'd say03:22
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paradisegnomefreak: ./configure then make then sudo checkinstall03:22
gnomefreakparadise: but first install checkinstall03:22
PaladineSerenity, A Big Damn Movie...03:22
kaothedonistic: or just use ifconfig manually  :/03:22
andi5gnomefreak: install: missing file operand \n Try `install --help' for more information. ;-)03:22
spiderbatdadOH...cant remeber the full address...got the info from ubuntu planet about three days ago03:23
paradisegnomefreak: checkintall was installed03:23
NickGarveytehbio: works03:23
tehbioandi5, Thanks, it was a headache.03:23
gnomefreakandi5: huh?03:23
tehbioNickGarvey, Bah, are you using the beta?03:23
spiderbatdadseems like a fun game but my video card is too old03:23
andi5gnomefreak: you said install checkinstall :)03:23
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paradisegnomefreak: Should I create a default set of package docs?03:24
gnomefreakparadise: first ./configure  when thats done type make than when thats done sudo checkinstall03:24
Adam_Gapokryphos: worked... I'm eternally grateful :)03:24
kaotwhat i'd love to know is if the router's getting a bad dhcp request or if it isn't getting one at all or if it is getting one and not offering or the card's just not receiving or what.  weird.03:24
gnomefreakparadise:03:24
andi5package ... docs?03:24
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gnomefreakyes03:24
paradisegnomefreak:03:24
paradisegnomefreak: ok03:24
apokryphosAdam_G: :)03:24
gnomefreakparadise: yes03:24
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hedonisticspades, so just copy that whole thing into the bottom of the interfaces file?  btw, I think I am in the private chat now03:24
gnomefreakandi5: he is building a package03:24
spiderbatdadandi5: thanks for help03:25
andi5gnomefreak: but he has compiled already, why does not he simply install it?03:25
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gnomefreakandi5: ./configure is not a last step03:25
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tehbioIs suspended the Windows equivalent of standby ?03:25
paradisegnomefreak: it said.. Done. The new package has been installed..! Whats next?03:26
gnomefreakandi5: normally there are a 2-4 steps after that03:26
gnomefreakparadise: it doesnt say heres the package use dpkg -i to install it?03:26
spadeshedonistic you should create a new file, backup the old one with the interfaces file i uploaded and if the scheme is right with the internal ips then give it a shot03:26
paradiseandi5: why did you mislead me?  what you told me to do was false as gnomefreak gave me the correct procedure03:26
harryvevening. now i've spent quite some time looking for the 'development' branch that is mentioned here: http://kortlink.dk/2u4f - no luck?!03:26
__mikemgnomefreak, usually when I am installing source packages, ./configure && make install (or whatever) does the trick03:26
harryv(what i mean is, where is info on it?)03:27
andi5paradise: what did you do different now?03:27
paradisegnomefreak: i messaged you what it said03:27
paradiseandi5: I did step 2 and 3 diff to what you told me03:27
paradisegnomefreak way worked03:27
gnomefreakparadise: congrats you built xchat03:27
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paradisegnomefreak: wow yipee :) my fist compliation! thanks :)03:27
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paradisegnomefreak: do i need to find the .deb and dpkg -i?03:28
gnomefreakparadise: i recommend checkinstall (i feel its better than make install) and it builds a deb03:28
lukei have lots of .desktop files in my Desktop folder, can I delete them?03:28
gnomefreakparadise: nope03:28
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andi5gnomefreak: before i start to explode..... what did you tell him? i said: untar, configure, make, sudo make install.... .... ...03:28
paradisegnomefreak: thats great!  checkinstall is good03:28
paradisegnomefreak: do I now close xchat and reload it?03:28
gnomefreakparadise: if you removed the xchat you had your ready to use the new one03:28
ryanakcaluke: if you don't need them, sure...03:29
paradisegnomefreak: im using the old one now!  shall I close it and remove it?03:29
__mikemI prefere irssi03:29
gnomefreakparadise: try to close this one and run xchat find out if right version03:29
lukeryanakca: do you know what they are?03:29
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paradisegnomefreak: ok brb03:29
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ryanakcaLuke: I believe they're "shortcuts" for kde...03:30
lukeooh ok ty03:30
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eternaljoyhi03:30
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eternaljoygnomefreak: you are a legend, it works well03:30
gnomefreaketernaljoy: xchat?>03:31
vvarderdoes anyone know of a repository for a Ubuntu Dapper build of 0.19?  I was running 0.18 out of multiverse but I upgraded the backend and would rather use 0.1903:31
eternaljoygnomefreak: it now says xchat 2.6.403:31
elementapokryphos: is it possible to use x86 ubuntu on my 64bit AMD processor?03:31
gnomefreaketernaljoy: im glad it works03:31
__mikemelement yes you can03:31
eternaljoygnomefreak: i simply closed the xchat and reloaded and it loads xchat 2.6.4 now instead of 2.4.403:31
element__mikem: are there any conflicts?03:31
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apokryphoselement: it is, yes.03:31
hedonisticspades, can you check the private chat?03:31
__mikemI have an amd64 and I use ubuntu all the time03:31
eternaljoygnomefreak: do I need to remove 2.4.4?03:32
elementapokryphos: will I lose a lot of performance on it?03:32
dagrump_theeeereeee baaaaaack!!!  lol03:32
apokryphoselement: as the article says, some.03:32
gnomefreaketernaljoy: no you dont but you can03:32
spadeshedonistic type something back so i know you can see it in the private chat03:32
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elementapokryphos: hmmm ok, I'm willing to sacrafice that in order for it to *WORK*03:32
elementapokryphos: because I really need something taht WORKS03:32
eternaljoygnomefreak: do you use xchat?03:32
hedonisticspades, I did03:32
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hedonisticspades, I guess you don't see it though...03:32
gnomefreaketernaljoy: nope not in a long time03:32
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elementapokryphos: also, which article are you speaking of? I couldn't find it...03:33
apokryphoselement: 64bit "works" quite perfectly, it's an officially supported architecture, and I've used it for months.03:33
apokryphos!faq > element03:33
elementapokryphos: no issues at all with it?03:33
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spadeshedonistic i dont see anything from you there, duno whats up03:33
spadeshedonistic you have aim?03:33
apokryphoselement: only things are what are said there :)03:33
elementapokryphos: I have a little bit of linux exp, but not enough to run into problems and fix them easily.03:33
janitor61hi can anyone help on installer freezing issues?03:33
elementapokryphos: okie, I'll read it over now.03:33
hedonistick, yes, thats what I'm accessing this through03:33
eternaljoyandi5: learn from gnomefreak before you give out false information next time please03:33
__mikemelement, I have NEVER had any problems with ubuntu on my computer, then again I am running it through vmware.03:33
spadeshedonistic message me @ iam3spades03:34
element__mikem: lol nice.03:34
apokryphoselement: it's not a case of problems, it's a case of things that aren't physically possible on amd64. If they are things that bother you, then....03:34
andi5man, i desparately need irc ignore functionality03:34
elementapokryphos: depends what those things are.03:34
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hedonisticspades, says user not logged in...03:34
eternaljoygnomefreak: thanks again!  I wrote those 3 steps down so next time I can download the source and compile and install :)03:34
apokryphoselement: check your message from ubuntu, he will give you the link to the FAQ03:35
elementapokryphos: yeah, looks like I'm going x8603:35
andi5oh... there may be... checking03:35
janitor61is there a known problem with SATA drives in the installer?03:35
gnomefreakandi5: thats easy but this will all stop03:35
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apokryphoselement: or here:03:35
apokryphos!faq03:35
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage03:35
spadeshedonistic on aim or irc?03:35
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elementapokryphos: yup, reading it over now...I need flash, I need WINE, and I need w32 codecs (for work)....so yeah, I'll be forced to go x8603:35
hedonisticspades, sorry, I thought you said gaim03:35
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apokryphoselement: right03:35
spadeshedonistic gaim is aim, just using aim protocol contact me :P03:35
eternaljoyandi5: next time tell people to download xchat source, then 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo checkinstall03:36
elementapokryphos: there's no multilib support such as what gentoo has for 32bit apps?03:36
gnomefreaketernaljoy: yw those are basic functions to building froma tar.gz you can get into ./configure with as many options as it has03:36
eternaljoyandi5: simple as that03:36
apokryphoselement: it's a shame Ubuntu isn't BiArch, really (as some other Linux distros). AMD64s are made to be perfectly compatible with 32bit libs03:36
eternaljoygnomefreak: ok03:36
apokryphoselement: on debian/ubuntu unfortunately not, no.03:36
elementapokryphos: any future support for this planned?03:36
eternaljoygnomefreak: will those 3 steps work with any sources as well?03:36
Healotwell, edgy going to be multiarc03:36
apokryphoselement: yes :), but it might be quite some time.03:36
gnomefreaketernaljoy: pretty much03:36
eternaljoygnomefreak: ok03:36
apokryphosHealot: not necessarily, no.03:36
andi5gnomefreak: i am sorry, it is really frustrating, no matter what i tell, i am the troll and lie and try to mislead ... the only thing i am not accused of is to be atheistic (being true of course ;-)) ... see you03:36
eternaljoysee ya gnomefreak , ty again03:36
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gnomefreakanddont fret it03:37
kbrookseasyubuntu will not di out03:37
gnomefreakandi5: dont fret it03:37
Healotand gentoo is already supporting multiarch03:37
kbrooksever03:37
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nixboxhi all03:37
andi5gnomefreak: will try :)03:37
wastrelhi03:37
kbrooksnot even when edgy is out03:37
janitor61hi03:37
nixboxwhats the gui tool to enable XDMCP in gnome?03:37
ardchoillenixbox: hi03:37
apokryphosHealot: and suse has been supporting it since 9.3, yeah 8)03:37
hedonisticspades, argh, i click the IM icon in the buddies list screen, type in iam3spades, a tab with your screen name appears, I type, and it says user not logged in03:38
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zcat[1] is there a wat to automatically change backgrounds every half hour in gnome?03:38
zcat[1] *way03:38
apokryphoskbrooks: what are you talking about?03:38
Healotapokryphos: why do you give a damn about multiarch anyways, Windows has done that since Windows 9503:38
janitor61my ubuntu wont install :(03:38
__mikeminit 0 is bad, it will just keep rebooting forever03:38
HealotLinux world sucks sometimes...03:38
kbrooksapokryphos: the common customizationsspec03:38
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spadeshedonistic if you have multiple protocols, did you make it so it uses your aim nick?03:38
wastrelwhats multiarch03:38
NickGarveyHealot: multiarch is very good03:39
kdegelanyone have the microsoft 4000 keyboard?03:39
__mikemHEalot why's that?03:39
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apokryphosHealot: why? Because it's damn useful.03:39
kbrooksHealot: language03:39
NickGarveyHealot: I think its very important03:39
wastrelzcat[1] :  i bet you could write a quick script and cron i03:39
kbrooksapokryphos: is "damn" a bad ord?03:39
apokryphosno03:39
NickGarveyHealot: its the main reason I use suse 10.1 instead of dapper03:39
Healotdefine useful...03:39
hedonisticspades, I'm a complete gaim newbie (this is my first time using both irc and gaim), so I'm not sure how to do that03:39
kbrooksapokryphos: how come03:39
zcat[1] wastrel: probably.. was hoping for something easier like a package...03:39
__mikemkbrooks, technically he didn't say anything that can get him banned03:39
apokryphosHealot: being able to have 32bit apps ready and waiting when I want them.03:39
apokryphosHealot: without the hassle of a chroot03:39
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NickGarveyHealot: I can use wine, I can use flash, I can listen w32codecs03:39
kbrookswtf is multiarch?03:40
garryFWe are just people here, not net cops.03:40
zcat[1] flash 8 /03:40
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apokryphoskbrooks: now that is language :)03:40
garryFya03:40
zcat[1] shockwave?03:40
hedonisticspades, I don't have a regular aim account if thats what you mean though...I have a google chat account thats it03:40
Healotthat's why say Linux world sucks sometimes...03:40
kbrooksapokryphos: no, "f" can mean anything03:40
__mikemOH, I guess he has03:40
wastrelkbrooks:  i'm gathering that it lets you run both 32 and 64 bit apps on a 64 bit kernel (?)03:40
garryFIts shockwaving!03:40
spadeshedonistic that would explain it03:40
NickGarveywastrel: close enough ;)03:40
apokryphoskbrooks: multi = multiple; arch = architectures. Being able to have multiple arch packs on one system.03:40
Healotthere are always reasons to hate linux and yet you guys still use it :)03:40
Healotironically03:40
apokryphoskbrooks: please don't play stupid, we know exactly what the common acronym means.03:40
spadeshedonistic in your irc window, try /msg spades hi03:41
NickGarveyhedonistic: you need to be identified (/msg nickserv help identify)03:41
garryFI hate cleaning house but I still do it.03:41
zcat[1] Healot: the only things I find lacking in Linux are lacking only because microsoft or hardware vendors make them so...03:41
hedonisticspades, done, twice...03:41
apokryphosHealot: what are you talking about? There are Linux distros that support it perfectly.03:41
__mikemHealot please stop trolling. Linux is our OS, we use it because we like it, you can't badmouth our OS03:41
janitor61so theres no way to install ubuntu on a sata drive?03:41
__mikemlol03:41
__mikemactually its our Kernel,03:41
Healotand multiarch support... but that's about it...03:41
kbrooks__mikem: of course Healot can badmouth linux03:41
hedonisticshould I just sign up for an aim account real quick?03:41
__mikembut03:41
__mikemo well03:42
Healotbut I don't hate linux either03:42
garryFUbuntu recognizes sata drives. I don't see why it would not work.03:42
wastreli hate linux on a weekly basis03:42
HealotI want to make it better03:42
spadeshedonistic i wouldnt bother with it if you arent going to use it passed today03:42
wastreland i've been using it for going on 10 years03:42
NickGarveywastrel: ;)03:42
janitor61the installer just freezes at "select a disk"03:42
__mikemHealot, then find some source code and improve on it03:42
kbrookswastrel: hate, hate, hate, eh?03:42
NickGarveywastrel: love hate relationship03:42
kbrooks__mikem: umm03:42
gnomefreakHealot: can bad mouth ubuntu/linux or anything else he wants in #ubuntu-offtopic03:42
kbrooks__mikem: there are other ways of contributing03:42
janitor61& i've been googling and people have the problem but theres no recourse03:42
zcat[1] anyhow...03:43
__mikemYeh, theres reporting bugs also03:43
garryFHmmm, strange. I wonder if it's doing something that just takes a long time03:43
wastrelthis week i'm hating linux because firefox keeps crashing on flash player pages03:43
kbrooks__mikem: changing source code isnt the only way03:43
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zcat[1] wastrel: to hate the flash plugin that causes it to crash..03:43
hedonisticspades, k, anyhow I copied the text from the link and pasted it into the etc/net/interfaces file (deleting what was previously there), was that what I was supposed to do?03:43
zcat[1] *so03:43
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Healoti believe strong support would help elevate Linux use...03:43
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janitor61well i shut it off after 5 minutes and no disk/hdd activity03:43
wastrelzcat[1] :  meh it's easier to hate the whole thing :] 03:43
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janitor61is there a text based installer i can use besides this live cd stuff?03:44
Healotsource code is one thing... but not the only way to do it03:44
Healotjanitor61: alternate install CD03:44
kbrooksare there 521 weeks in 10 years03:44
zcat[1] wastrel: what you hate isn't linux.. in this example it's a closed-source binary causing you trouble.03:44
spadeshedonistic it would have been better to back the old one up, but it can be traced back no problem, the one i pasted for you will disable eth0, so if it doesnt work, make sure the eth0 line is set to dhcp and doesnt start with # and then restart networking to get eth0 back03:44
__mikemHealot, I guess my point is, talking about wanting to make it better isn't going to do so, actually doing something might03:44
kbrookszcat[1] : dont be pedantic, dammit03:44
hedonisticspades, I did back it up03:44
__mikem!language03:44
wastrelheh03:44
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.03:44
kbrookssry03:45
Healot__mikem: I am doing something, my company support ubuntu professionally03:45
janitor61all right i'll try the alternate thanks03:45
Healotbut still received too many complain from migrators03:45
garryF!computers03:45
ubotuI know nothing about computers03:45
kbrookszcat[1] : but seriously, he can hate linux if he likes03:45
spadeshedonistic great, so make sure the ips are right as per your router manual and restart networking and see if wlan0 works, if not, place the old on back and restart netowrking, should bring eth0 back and log back to irc since it will probably bounce you off03:45
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hedonisticwhen i run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart I get a no such process error03:45
__mikemwow, ubotu knows nothing about computers03:45
spadeshedonistic do a 'grep net /etc/init.d/'03:45
kbrooks__mikem: if YOU do, give your knowledge to ubotu's all-knowing brain03:46
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garryFThe linux made me do it.03:46
hedonisticwait, now it worked03:46
ardchoilleHedgeMage: HI!03:46
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wastrelhedgemaze03:46
kbrooks__mikem: /msg ubotu <thing> is <reply>text03:46
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HedgeMagehi ardchoille03:46
Healot!multiarch03:47
ubotuI know nothing about multiarch03:47
NickGarvey__mikem: mind you, if its crap it won't be accepted03:47
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Healotsee...03:47
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__mikemNickGarvey, don't worry, I have been here long enough to know what not to do03:47
apokryphosHealot: some info about biarch in the FAQ03:47
NickGarvey__mikem: :)03:47
kbrooks__mikem: if it says the factoid exists (WARNING: DO NOT OVERWRITE FACTOIDS UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE OVERWRITTEN: BE CONSIDERATE): /msg ubotu no, <thing> is <reply>text03:48
garryFLinux is great to visit those sites you think you should check out, but are afraid they might be some windows virus downloader.03:48
apokryphoskbrooks: please do not use caps like that again.03:48
garryFMy eyes are ringing03:48
NickGarveykbrooks: ops need to approve the factoid first03:48
apokryphoskbrooks: (ii) not everyone can add to the bot now, only a select amount of people.03:48
kbrooksapokryphos: oh, i see03:48
kbrooksapokryphos: thanks03:48
hedonisticspades, well my wired connection is still functioning even with that pasted into the interfaces file...I don't know if the network interfaces restarted correctly or not...03:48
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zcat[1] "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail"03:49
wastrelyay!03:49
hedonisticspades, I guess I can try unplugging my ethernet and try to connect wirelessly03:49
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spadeshedonistic first do an ifconfig and see if wlan0 has an ip03:49
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zcat[1] !zcat03:49
ubotuI know nothing about zcat03:49
lukeeverytime my PC starts I want it to run the command 'sudo netcat -p 21 -c "thpot ftp" -l', how do I go about doing that?03:49
__mikemapokryphos, do people have to earn the right to modify the bot, or do they just loose that priveledge by trolling03:49
spadesif it does, do an ifconfig eth0 down and ping the router, if it wont ping, ifconfig wlan0 down, ifconfig eth0 up and try get back on irc03:49
apokryphos__mikem: no-one has it by default; anyone can try to add a factoid but it has to be approved and added by one of the editors before it goes in.03:50
wastrelpeople were spamming the bot03:50
knorghi all, after a change to my xorg.conf file the Xserver didnt start anymore, how can i edit the file now?03:50
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hedonisticspades, I don't see one, has inet6adr with a bunch of stuff after it03:51
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NickGarveyknorg: command line my friend, command line03:51
wastrelknorg:  did you save a backup of the old file   :] 03:51
kbrookswastrel: oh really?03:51
zcat[1] 'wallpaper-tray' looks like what I wanted...03:51
matttailknorg: use the command line and the program nano or pico to edit the file03:51
kbrookswastrel: I find that hard to believe03:52
Kibouluke: put it into /etc/rc.local (wiithout the "sudo")03:52
knorgonly a few lines to del03:52
lukeKiboy: ty03:52
garryFTechnically thats a privelege.03:52
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wastrelkbrooks:  i gathered that people weren't being discriminating about the factoids they were adding.  not commercial spamming :] 03:52
gnomefreakwastrel: and kbrooks to continue that please join #ubuntu-offtopic03:53
spadeshedonistic im stumped :(  i dont know if youre down but if you wanna setup a vnc session and let me remote into your machine i can poke around, no harm if you dont want to do that, just a suggestion03:53
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hedonisticspades, sure03:53
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lukeKibou: should I put a '&' at the end of the command?03:54
spadeshedonistic 3spades @ 3spades.net  if ya want to email me the info03:54
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hedonisticspades, I have a feeling its something simple I'm not getting...I don't know how to setup a vnc session though03:54
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knorgis there an editor i can start from the command line03:54
spadeshedonistic under system> preferences or the one under it should be remote config or something03:54
Kibouluke: nope03:54
lukeKibou: but say I have two commands I want to run, will they both run without the '&'?03:55
hedonisticspades, remote desktop...you need the command I guess?03:55
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Kibouluke: yes03:55
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spadeshedonistic email me your ip address and set a password on it and email that too03:55
n00bWillingToLeaI am sorry to interrupt but I have never used IRC before and I need to get help. What am I supposed to do?03:56
siriusnova_lol03:56
zcat[1] !ask03:56
__mikem!ask03:56
siriusnova_just ask03:56
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)03:56
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n00bWillingToLeaOK03:56
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__mikemI typed !ask first03:56
siriusnova_:P03:56
siriusnova_i said ask first03:56
siriusnova_hehe03:56
zcat[1] not on my screen...03:56
__mikem:p03:56
n00bWillingToLeaMy shift button is not working.03:56
dagrump_knorg:  use nano03:56
hedonisticspades, hmm, would the ip be the router designated ip...i.e. 192.168.x.x?03:56
PaulCbuHi there, i need some help with ra0 problem.03:57
PaulCbuany takers?03:57
__mikemnOObWillingToLea have you tried another keyboard03:57
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spadeshedonistic go to ipchicken.com to see it, in the router, foward port 5900 to the internal address03:57
spadesipchicken will show your external ip03:57
__mikemPaulCbu, being more specific increases your chances of getting a responce03:57
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n00bWillingToLeaNo, I don't have one at hand but it is obviously a software problem.03:57
PaulCbuthanks __mikem03:58
__mikemHow do you know its a software problem03:58
__mikem:)03:58
n00bWillingToLeaI will post more details expaining I type slowly though.03:58
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whitesuitis there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?03:58
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__mikemn00bWillingToLea be warned, DON'T paste in the chatroom03:58
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knorgdagrump, is nano installed by default?03:58
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hedonisticspades, ok, I have the current ip from ipchicken, but I don't exactly understand what you mean by forward port 5900 to the internal address...(sorry I'm new to this stuff)03:58
n00bWillingToLeaMy shift button does not work without caps lock on. For instance, if I do not have caps lock on and I try to type a capital letter by pressing shift + the letter nothing is typed, not even a lowercase letter. Also, with caps lock off I can not type any characters like $ because when I type shift + 4, just like with capital letters, nothing happens. However with caps lock on if I type shift + 4 I do indeed get a $ a03:59
n00bWillingToLeand if I press shift + a letter it types a lowercase letter ( which is normal because I have caps lock on ).03:59
n00bWillingToLeaAnother interesting thing to note is that if I press ctrl + alt + F1 to go to a terminal shift works fine in all situations ( with or without caps lock on ).03:59
PaulCbuWell, I've read the forums and it says that rt2500 comes installed with ubuntu 5.10. problem is im not seeing the ra0 on the network interfaces list03:59
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, I just said NOT to paste in the chat room03:59
garryFThe only thing I can imagine that might make your shift key fail when in Linux is choosing the wrong keyboard layout.03:59
n00bWillingToLeaSorry03:59
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garryFIt makes our monitors all sticky with paste.03:59
PaulCbuwhen i run iwconfig only sit0 shows up with no wireless extensions03:59
spadeshedonistic check http://www.portforward.com/ for your router on how to foward that port03:59
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dagrump_knorg: i didnt istall so i assume yes04:00
PaulCbui have a MSI PC54G4 card04:00
CornelliusAmaranth: You there ?04:00
PaulCbuubuntu is not detecting it at all04:00
burepeI converted my music library with sound converter and the converted library is about 500 files smaller than the original. Is there a way to cross check folders and find out what files are not in the new one without doing it by hand?04:00
knorgic, thx04:00
__mikemnOObWillingToLea, I am still convinced its a hardware problem. WHen did this start happening04:00
PaulCbucan someone please help04:00
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n00bWillingToLeaAbout a week ago and it works when booted into OSx.04:00
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matttailso I have hda partitioned into 4 pieces.  hda1 is linux, hda2 is swap, hda3 is windoze, and hda4 is a fat32 drive for sharing between linux and windoze.  I have hda4 in my fstab set to mount rw.  I have two problems, I have to umount and mount the drive with my user everytime I reboot so I (not only root) has write access to it.  The second problem is that it will randomly change to read only, at which point I'm basically fo04:00
matttailrced to reboot my system becuase I can't umount it becuase "the device is busy"  How can I go about fixing these issues?04:00
CornelliusAnyone tried that thing that let you use Gmail account as a FileSystem ?04:01
__mikemWait, is this a MAC?04:01
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n00bWillingToLeaYes.04:01
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burepeCornellius: I have04:01
n00bWillingToLeaUbuntu PPC.04:01
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wastrelmatttail:  have you set your user flag in /etc/fstab ?04:01
Cornelliusburepe: Verdict ?04:01
__mikemGreat, I have no expertise in MACs04:01
KyralMAC is the Hardware address for a card04:01
BoelckePsst. Anyone listen to SomaFM.com on Ubuntu?  I can't get it to play...04:01
josephIs it possible to have a different wallpaper for each of the four desktops??04:02
matttailwastrel: yes, it's users04:02
__mikemKyral, I know but I don't know how to spell macantosh04:02
Kyraloh I thought you meant MAC Address lol04:02
n00bWillingToLeaIt is the same ubuntu, just a different architecture.04:02
burepeCornellius: I use the firefox extension. But I don't really need it for anything that I can't fit in my usb key. I guess if you have a specific purpose04:02
Boelckejoseph, that's a neat idea.  Um...04:02
__mikemlol04:02
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, did you make any changes that might have caused this04:02
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Healotrn missing04:03
n00bWillingToLeaNot that I can think of.04:03
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Intangirlike fraps, but for linux04:03
Intangirdo you know of a good video capturing program for linux? to record what your doing on your screen04:03
Intangirlike fraps, but for linux04:03
__mikemWell, if it is a software problem, typically software doesn't just break on its own. IF it is a software problem, its probably a locale issue04:03
Intangiri wanna record game demos from linux ;)04:03
Nick-xchatIntangir: istanbul is one I think04:03
ClujoI think I might try a couple live cds for the keyboard04:03
Intangirthx04:03
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Intangirdo you know of any other good ones?04:04
__mikemClujo, you just gave me an idea thanks04:04
Nick-xchatIntangir: not sure, I haven't even used that04:04
josephBoelcke, is it possible?04:04
__mikemn00bWillingtoLea do you have a live cd on hand04:04
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whitesuitis there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?04:04
n00bWillingToLeaYes.04:04
__mikemCould you pop it in and see if the keyboard works with it?04:04
burepeIs there a way to check 2 identical folders for discrepencies? what files are missing or what not?04:04
leboffhey , i have bcm43xx card (buffalo version...) and i'm connected to my router.. but i'm still gettin no internet..c an someone help out?04:05
Intangirthx04:05
IntangirNick-xchat:04:05
TantalumI have a wireless network setup in my house and unbuntu sees my wireless card but wont detect my network can someone tell me if there is something that I have to do. My net work usees DHCP04:05
Boelckejoseph, I'm not sure.  Sorry.  I was hoping to hear someone answer!04:05
PaulCbuhi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?04:05
n00bWillingToLeaSure, I am running on said computer now though.04:05
josephBoelcke, it would be pretty cool04:05
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garryFI do not know Boelcke04:05
leboffTantalum: try using static once.. i know thats worked for me04:05
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yosupi get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs04:06
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BoelckeAnyone listen to radio on SomaFM.com? I can't get it to work...04:06
TantalumMy network has to use DHCP04:06
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, when you get it booted up, if it appears to work, just talk to me from the live cd until I give you further instructions04:06
n00bWillingToLeaOK bye.04:06
__mikembye04:06
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yosupi CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me04:06
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PaulCbuhi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?04:07
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n00bWillingToLeaSorry, but I installed Xchat to use IRC. What should I use on the liveCD?04:07
garryFgaim04:07
__mikemor irssi04:07
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Boelckeyosup, have you tried booting a Live CD?04:07
n00bWillingToLeaOK bye, really this time : )04:07
__mikembye04:07
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WarboDoes anyone know how to tell if my CD writer is screwed? It doesn't work on a few distros with a few different discs04:08
yosupBoeIcke.....yes and it works fine...i can even mount the file systems04:08
__mikemgarryF, for when he gets back, what package deals with locale04:08
__mikem?04:08
garryF__mikem Dunno.04:08
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yosupBoeIcke.....i think its because my file system is durty....what do u think04:09
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JDSBlueDevlhelp, my Linux system stalled on "waiting for root file system"04:09
Warbo__mikem: language-support-XX and locales maybe?04:09
hedonisticspades, k, I think I understand how to do it, do I really need to setup a static IP though...that seems like alot of work and the directions to do so are for windows...04:09
WarboJDSBlueDevl: What is your root (/) filesystem on?04:09
PaulCbuhi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?04:09
JDSBlueDevlwhat do you mean?04:09
dstyrkHi all.. i am having a hard time installing Ubuntu.. I downloaded the iso, burned it to CD.  Tried to boot an install and for some reason my iMac (older G3, looks like the eMac) won't boot or install from the CD.. Once OSX boots up it shows that the CD is there... Any ideas?04:09
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Where did you install Ubuntu (what type of disc)04:09
JDSBlueDevlhard disk04:10
spadeshedonistic you can do an ifconfig eth0 to see what address dhcp gave you and use that04:10
WarboJDSBlueDevl: What type?04:10
JDSBlueDevlnow it's telling me "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"04:10
JDSBlueDevlNTFS04:10
hedonisticspades, k04:10
Boelckeyosup, can you run the disk-check while booted on the LiveCD?04:10
bderrlyhah04:10
larson9999here is my sources list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16909.  what do i need to add/change so i can install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?04:10
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Ermmmmm...You can't install Ubuntu to NTFS04:10
garryFJDSBlueDevl: I had that happen once, when grub was pointing to the wrong partition on the wrong drive for the root filesystem. It was in the same partition as boot and home /dev/hd3,0 and had to point it to that in grub.lst04:10
JDSBlueDevlwell, it was working yesterday04:10
yosupdstyrk, make ur cd bootable in the bios04:11
dagrump__mikem: 1 ? plz, is irssi cmnd line04:11
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bderrlydagrump_, yes04:11
TantalumI just reactivated my wireless card and ran wireless assistant but it didnt find any networks04:11
garryFHmm, well that kills that guess.04:11
__mikemdagrump_ yes it is?04:11
dagrump_thanks ill note that04:11
larson9999oops! wrong channel04:11
WarboJDSBlueDevl: When the boot menu comes up press "e" on the Ubunt uentry, then look at the "kernel" line and what it says for "root="04:11
JDSBlueDevlhow do I access grub?04:11
JDSBlueDevlhold on04:11
JDSBlueDevlboot menu?04:12
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: GRUB04:12
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PaulCbuhi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?04:12
__mikemOk, when that guy comes back, I think I know what I am going to ask him to do04:12
dstyrkyosup:  would it make a difference if I burned the iso from a windows machine?  Because I04:12
JDSBlueDevlok, let me restart the computer then first to get to that04:12
JDSBlueDevlor did you mean Esc?04:12
yosupdstyrk. did u use windows?04:12
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you have the menu hidden then press Esc, then press e on the right entry04:12
garryFGrub can stand for GReat User Baffler, till you read about it then its kinda nice.04:13
escobar5hello, does anybody knows how can i work with subtitles that have special characters in qdvdauthor?04:13
JDSBlueDevlwhat do you mean by right entry?04:13
JDSBlueDevloh, I see04:13
yosupdstyrk, nv, u said u can see the cd.....yes its the bios04:13
JDSBlueDevlok, what next?04:13
dstyrkYes to burn the CD, because my old iMac doesn't have a CD burner.04:13
yosupi CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me04:13
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you have a few Ubuntu kernels, recovery modes and maybe some Windows or other Linux entries make sure you choose your normal Ubuntu entry04:13
Toma-dstyrk: you didnt burn as an iso, and not just copy the iso to the cd right?04:13
JDSBlueDevlyeah, just did04:13
garryFSorry yosup, no clue.04:14
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Try messing around with the root=/dev/XXXX bit, change the numbers and letters04:14
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JDSBlueDevlroot is pointing to hd0,004:14
yosupgarryF, np... is their a way to clean a reiserfs file system04:14
Toma-yosup: have you been able to access is before or is it a new install?04:14
__mikemhda0,0 shouldn't that be where the boot loader is?04:14
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Which root? The "root (hd0,0)" bit or the "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hd0,0"04:14
JDSBlueDevlthe first one04:15
WarboJDSBlueDevl: OK, not that one04:15
JDSBlueDevlthe second one is pointing to /dev/hda104:15
josephBoelcke, do you have kde?04:15
yosupToma-, the only way i can access my drive is their a boot cd and mount them.....my old install crashed with the same error....im on a new install04:15
Toma-Warbo: hd0,0 isnt a dev entry04:15
garryFnot unless you can use a rescue CD and it has a fsck option. I dunno how to use fsck but that would check the file system04:15
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Look at the line which says "kernel"04:15
JDSBlueDevlI am, it's pointing to /dev/hda104:15
WarboToma-: I know, so if he said yes to that then we would know the problem :)04:15
amonkeyi'm using my xorg.conf from my breezy install on dapper now and the twinview is all borked. Xorg.0.log says the metamodes are validated, but they don't appear in the resoltution list. i only get a single monitor although both are detected in the log.04:15
Toma-Warbo: ahh :)04:15
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Is that where Ubuntu is installed? (the first partition of the fiorst HD)04:16
JDSBlueDevlyeah04:16
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dstyrkok.. I'm having my roommate look for what program I used, but there was an option to burn an ISO and I chose that.. That didn't work, then I tried burn ISO with the option Make CD bootable. That didn't work either..04:16
JDSBlueDevlonly 1 partition, if you don't count the swap04:16
yosupgarryF, is that the same one as the install cd?04:16
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hmm, well the "waiting for root filesystem" means that it can't access that (that happens when I forget to turn on my external HD :) )04:16
Toma-yosup: well, have you changed anything in fstab?04:16
JDSBlueDevlit's an internal HD04:16
Boelckejoseph, I've got kde and gnome, though defaulting to gnome.  Finally got it to play with XMMS.  Duh.04:16
Toma-yosup: or is the reiserfs your primary ubuntu install?04:17
JDSBlueDevland just before I rebooted, when I tried running apt-get, it was giving me some sort of memory error04:17
josephBoelcke, you can do it through kde04:17
garryFyosup I think the install has an option to fix a broken linux. Mgight try it.04:17
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Yes, since it is not sda I am assuming that it isn't SATA, so you shouldn't need any special drivers04:17
JDSBlueDevlit's PATA04:17
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yosupToma-, i took all my fat drives out of my fstab but they r still being check...and i think the prolbem is my reiserfs anyway04:17
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Try changing hda to sda maybe (I am not too sure about PATA)04:17
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JDSBlueDevlisn't PATA just the formal name for ATA?04:18
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dstyrkToma-:04:18
JDSBlueDevlI mean IDE/ATA?04:18
efoxhey hey04:18
WarboATA is IDE, PATA is Parallel ATA, SATA is Serial ATA04:18
Boelckeyosup, I ought to put the obvious warning here:  If you end up formatting the partition, and re-set it up, and still get errors, it could be a sign that your drive is dying...04:18
JDSBlueDevlok, booting, still freezing on "waiting for root file system"04:19
Toma-yosup: ok. it might help to run "sudo fsck.reiserfs --check (or even --fix-fixable) /dev/your-resierfs-entry" from a live cd04:19
yosupBoelcke, yea i know :p...but its new and i can mount it fine through the install cd04:19
efoxand thats what happened to my laptop hd...i reformatted and a few months later it kept doin the same thing04:19
dstyrkToma-:  it was an open source program for window.. I fell upon it through "Stumble"04:19
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hedonisticspades, k email sent, hope thats all you need04:19
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Toma-!iso04:19
WarboJDSBlueDevl: You might need to add some modules to the initrd04:19
ubotuTo mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:19
n00bWillingToLeaShift is now working.04:20
JDSBlueDevldo you think installing the P2P-TV programs TVants and Sopcast under Wine may have done something to the system?04:20
efoxis there a way to have a file/folder protected from being deleted but still have the ability to write to it ?04:20
__mikemn00bWillingToLea are you in the live or in the installed04:20
yosupToma-, ok...im going to switch back to linux04:20
yosupbrb04:20
n00bWillingToLeaLive04:20
Toma-dstyrk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto04:20
Toma-dstyrk: just follow that and youll be on your way04:20
Toma-yosup: np04:20
n00bWillingToLea5.10 because I don't have a dapper liveCD.04:20
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JDSBlueDevland how do I get to the initrd04:21
JDSBlueDevl?04:21
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I wrote a guide to booting non-bootable USB drives here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUsb . You may be able to adapt the section which deals with adding modules to mkinitramfs to add PATA modules04:21
__mikemOk, we have just proven that it isn't any sort of hardware issue.04:21
spadeshedonistic are you running a firewall?04:21
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, do you have any way to mount your root file system?04:21
dstyrkToma-:   So buring the CD from a windows machine to install on a Mac won't be a problem?04:21
__mikemdo you know how04:21
JDSBlueDevlit says it doesn't exit04:21
n00bWillingToLeayes, why?04:21
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hang on, typo04:21
Toma-dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off04:21
__mikemTHank god for that. I want you to mount it with read/write privleges04:21
hedonisticspades, on my laptop, I am running ubuntu right now and as far as i know, there isn't a firewall (I havent installe done anyhow)04:21
XaviusShadowI'm having a problem with installing ubuntu. The cd boots, goes so far into the install and then just kills over saying it can't find the CD in the drive.04:22
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Toma-Warbo: does that mean i can boot ubuntu from my MRobe? :D04:22
Warbohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28boot%2904:22
dstyrkToma-:  How do I check to make sure it will be allowd?04:22
WarboToma-: ?04:22
Toma-Warbo: its a USB harddrive mp3 player04:22
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Toma-dstyrk: dunno, not a mac user sadly :( try googling "mac boot cd"04:23
Toma-or something04:23
JDSBlueDevlok, so I should probably get my LiveCD?04:23
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, have you mounted your root file system yet?04:23
WarboToma-: Ah. Well I thought of doing that to my HD USB video player, but then realised that to partition it I would need to turn it on, and to shrink the partition on it I must not be using it, but by turning it on I would be using it04:23
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spadeshedonistic gimme a few minutes, got some work related things to do04:23
hedonisticspades, no problem04:24
n00bWillingToLeaNo I am currently making sure my thermal modules are loaded so my computer doesn't melt.04:24
JDSBlueDevloh crap, that's right, I threw it away when it was giving me install problems (it was a beta)04:24
dstyrkToma-:  Will do... I most likely will be back in a few for some questions.. Thanks for your help this far.04:24
Toma-Warbo: ahh :( can you install without touching a fat filesystem?04:24
__mikemok, once you are sure its loaded04:24
Toma-dstyrk: ne time ;)04:24
CornelliusAnyone tried XMMS2 ? http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2 Can't get their repository to work04:24
WarboJDSBlueDevl: You don't need to follow that guide completely, just the bit about adding lines to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules (find the right modules for PATA and don;t bother with the USB ones)04:25
efoxso anyone know ?04:25
Toma-Cornellius: yeh i tried it. its horrid, so far.04:25
JDSBlueDevlok, do I need to drop down to the command line first?04:25
WarboToma-: Well I suppose I could wipe the whole thing because I have a backup/upgrade for the firmware, so copying it onto a fresh partition afterwards may make it work, but 200 is a bit too expensive to piss around like that04:26
Cornelliushttp://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2  I'm trying to add their repository for Dapper from their site04:26
dstyrkIs there a Mac specific IRC channel for Ubuntu users?04:26
n00bWillingToLeaOk it's mounted04:26
JDSBlueDevland how do I do that from grub?04:26
__mikemok, I want you to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor04:26
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can edit files from GRUB, you would need some form of LiveCD04:26
Toma-Warbo: fair enough :D but, HDD players are fun. you can wipe em then re-install firmware, just aslong as you dont flash its bios, you can still keep on kickin04:26
Toma-!ppc04:27
ubotuppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.04:27
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JDSBlueDevlok, I guess I have to let it go until it drops down to the command line itself04:27
Toma-dstyrk: nope :/04:27
WarboToma-: Well I can't really talk about messing around with it, since I broke the screen a few weeks ago :( (well, my cat did)04:27
JDSBlueDevlmight take 5 minutes04:27
efoxhow can i prevent a file from being deleted (other than root) BUT still be able to write ?04:27
Toma-Cornellius: and whats the problem with it?04:27
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:27
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__mikemin a text editor04:28
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can do it from busybox, since that is in the initrd filesystem, not the Ubuntu filesystem04:28
Toma-Warbo: i blame things on the cat too :D not breaking mp3 players, but more along the lines of passing gases.04:28
CornelliusToma-: Packages is built specificly for Dapper are available:04:28
Cornelliusdeb http://exodus.xmms.se/debian drapper main04:28
JDSBlueDevloh04:28
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CornelliusHowever, when I add it via Synaptic, it doesn't work04:28
JDSBlueDevlI don't have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but rather an install disk for that04:28
gdbefox: remove write permissions from the directory the file is in04:28
n00bWillingToLeaDone.04:28
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JDSBlueDevlbut I do have a Knoppix Live DVD04:28
Toma-Cornellius: yeh? what do you mean "doesnt work"?04:28
JDSBlueDevlwould that work?04:29
gdbefox: the directory permissions control the deletion and creation of files, the file permissions only control modifications of the files themselves.04:29
jpgvietnamhi all04:29
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, ok, find a section labled "input device" with the identifier "Generic Keyboard"04:29
WarboJDSBlueDevl: That should work, you just need tomount your Ubuntu system so you can access a text file, then chroot into it and rebuild the initrd (by using dpkg-reconfigure on your linu-image package)04:29
efoxgdb: wicked..thanks04:30
jolmashhello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via  Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?04:30
CornelliusWell, I add it, the do reload to get the new package, then, it tells me it couldn't find the repository indexes from that place.04:30
n00bWillingToLeadone04:30
Warboefox: Some filesystems have seperate "writable" and "deletable" permissions, but I don't think Linux uses them if you do mount them04:30
jajaja0hey guys my nvidia fx5200 svideo out is pretty blurry..anything I can do to fix that?04:30
__mikemOk, pastebin the contents of the section04:30
gdbefox: sure thing!04:30
Toma-Cornellius: email them. tell them its a buggy repo04:30
n00bWillingToLeasorry not sure if this is appropriate but "Toma- dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off"04:31
JDSBlueDevlok, how am I going to mount my Ubuntu system?04:31
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n00bWillingToLeathat isn't true as far as I have seen04:31
wastrelhold C to boot from CD on mac's iirc04:31
JDSBlueDevlwould it be mount /dev/hda1?04:31
Toma-n00bWillingToLea: ok.04:31
WarboMac BIOS? That would be a very sad day if we are going backwards in technology04:31
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, could you pastebin the contents of that section and send me the url04:32
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Yes, I think KNOPPIX puts an icon on the desktop04:32
n00bWillingToLeaOK04:32
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garryFI dunno Warbo. I hear that the amish have been y2k ready for decades.04:32
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markgglad that Ati finally got the .26 drivers out  ;-p04:33
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Warbomarkg: I use the Free ones04:33
JDSBlueDevlthis didn't start happening to my computer until I tried installing TVants and Sopcast under Wine04:33
Toma-n00bWillingToLea: since you know more about ppc/apple, feel free to help dstyrk in my absence. thanks.04:33
JDSBlueDevldo you think that may have done it?04:33
efoxgdb: it didnt work04:33
keithhhhhother than wine is there anyway to emulatate or preferably run XP in a window  WITHOUT installing a new copy of XP04:33
markgI tried them but they were a lil slow04:33
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I don't see how04:34
efoxgdb: i did chmod 744 folder and when i tried to delete a file within that folder, it allowed me too04:34
Warbokeithhhhh: Use "qemu -hda /dev/hda" to use your own drive04:34
markgvmplayer04:34
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efoxthe first rwx is root or owner ?04:34
Warboowner04:34
AidyMolekay Im trying to get rid of openoffice but it doesn't really want to04:34
Warbothen group then other04:35
efoxmaybe that was problem04:35
efoxdamm04:35
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efoxWarbo: ok, my bad then..thanks04:35
efoxgdb: nm04:35
keithhhhhWarbo: thanks Ill read about it now04:35
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, pastebin'ing the contents of a section of your xorg.conf file shouldn't take this long. What are you diong?04:35
Warboefox: root doesnt have it's own permission for a file, unless he owns it (then it would be "owner")04:35
JDSBlueDevlok, Knoppix finished booting, recognized hda104:35
n00bWillingToLeaThe page won't load for some reason.04:35
CornelliusIs there a site where they show some nice repositories for Dapper ?04:35
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NickGarvey!repos > Cornellius04:36
proctorIm having some trouble mounting a data drive that i happened to partitione & installed Ubuntu on, just want read access to it04:36
yosup_TomB, ok now i cant even boot to the cd i get a buffer i/o error on hdc witch is a fat now04:36
markghey speaking of wine has anybody loaded up the 9.16 built from src on an x86_64?04:36
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Go into it when it loads and open up the etc/mkinitramfs/modules file04:36
_TomB..?04:36
__mikemok, just go ahead and paste it in here. I am sure they will unerstand in this case04:36
NickGarveymarkg: wine doesn't work on 64 bit, sorry04:36
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eternaljoyhi04:36
n00bWillingToLeaSection "InputDevice"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaIdentifier"Configured Mouse"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaDriver"mouse"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaOption"CorePointer"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaOption"Device""/dev/input/mice"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaOption"Protocol""ExplorerPS/2"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaOption"ZAxisMapping""4 5"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaOption"Emulate3Buttons""true"04:36
n00bWillingToLeaEndSection04:36
NickGarvey!paste > n00bWillingToLea04:36
n00bWillingToLeasorry wrong one04:36
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paradisehi04:37
__mikemNickGarvey, he can't get onto the pastebin website for some reason04:37
n00bWillingToLeaSection "InputDevice"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaIdentifier"Generic Keyboard"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaDriver"kbd"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaOption"CoreKeyboard"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaOption"XkbRules""xorg"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaOption"XkbModel""pc104"04:37
markgI keep seeing all of these posts using ia32 for emulation since the games are all 32 anyway04:37
n00bWillingToLeaOption"XkbLayout""us"04:37
n00bWillingToLeaEndSection04:37
paradisewhats the latest firefox?04:37
AidyMoleNickGarvey: it's not true that wine doesn't work on amd6404:37
AidyMoleNickGarvey: I hav eit running04:37
NickGarveyAidyMole: what distro?04:37
JDSBlueDevlok, found it04:37
paradisewhats the latest firefox? i have 1.504:37
JDSBlueDevlwow, it's completely commented, with absolutely nothing in it04:37
NickGarveyparadise: 1.5.0.404:37
markgI'm in the process of building it now04:37
__mikemGReat, all that trouble, and the section doesn't have any problems04:37
Warbo"linux32" apparently allows running x86 architecture code in x86_64 architecture04:37
AidyMoleNickGarvey: ubuntu dapper, you just need to install the 32 bit version, np04:37
JDSBlueDevlwhat do I do to rebuild it?04:37
jolmashhello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?04:38
paradiseNickGarvey: how can you tell if you using 1.5.0.4?04:38
markgjust need to load 2 more deps in for the complie04:38
__mikemn00bWillingToLearn, no problems there.04:38
pianoboy3333Anyone here use the ati fglrx driver? I need some help getting it to work...04:38
NickGarveyAidyMole: yeah, I ment 64 bit distro, not 64 bit processors04:38
NickGarvey!ati > pianoboy333304:38
NickGarveyparadise: help > about04:38
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you have added the right modules to that file (I don;t actually know what they are though) then open a root terminal04:38
NickGarveyparadise: in firefox04:38
pianoboy3333NickGarvey: I need specific help04:38
AidyMoleNickGarvey: this is 64 bit ubuntu dapper04:38
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paradiseNickGarvey: it says 1.504:38
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NickGarveyAidyMole: I don't understand04:38
paradiseNickGarvey: how can I upgrade to using 1.5.0.4?04:38
JDSBlueDevlok, in root04:38
JDSBlueDevlbut I don't know what the right modules are04:39
NickGarveyparadise: there should be a "look for updates" option04:39
AidyMoleNickGarvey: JEEEZZZ you simply can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit distro's you know04:39
n00bWillingToLeaI hope I can help whoever had the Mac questions but it is hard to follow so if there are any please repost them.04:39
NickGarveyAidyMole: yes...04:39
paradiseNickGarvey: its greyed out04:39
WarboJDSBlueDevl: do "chroot /wherever/you/have/mounted/hda1"04:39
markg<--64bit Kub here04:39
NickGarveyparadise: be root04:39
paradiseNickGarvey: "Check for updates" is ghosted04:39
AidyMoleNickGarvey: so? YOu can run wine on an 64 bit distro04:39
paradiseNickGarvey: run sudo firefox you mean?04:39
AidyMoleNickGarvey: do you actually have any clue04:39
markgyea04:40
JDSBlueDevlok, did that04:40
markg you can been doing it over and over all week  lol04:40
WarboWINE can run in linux32, but it is hard to install, you can install 32bit packages easily in a 32bit chroot though04:40
NickGarveyAidyMole: I would appreciate it if you didn't talk down to me in support channel04:40
WarboJDSBlueDevl: OK, do you know the version of linux you are using in Ubuntu?04:40
JDSBlueDevlyou mean the kernel?04:40
paradiseNickGarvey: it says 1.5.3 is the latest! your 1.5.4 must be a fake04:40
JDSBlueDevlor the Ubuntu version?04:40
AidyMoleWarbo no need at all for 32 bit chroot04:41
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leboffhow would you check the strength of your link to a router04:41
JDSBlueDevlthe kernel is 2.6.15-2504:41
WarboJDSBlueDevl: The version of the linux kernel in Ubuntu04:41
Bassettsi really wish you could move windows about in the window list04:41
NickGarveyparadise: Firefox 1.5.0.4 is a security update that is part of our ongoing program to provide a safe Internet experience for our customers. We recommend that all users upgrade to this latest version.04:41
efoxi have a CRON question. I'm trying to do a backup of some file and im using tar to do so BUT i cant seem to understand how to tar to a directory...pardon my terminolgy :S04:41
AidyMoleWarbo, just dpkg --force-architecture on the wine .deb and install all the missing 32 bit libs too04:41
nomasteryodaleboff, in ubuntu?04:41
leboffnomasteryoda: yes please04:41
WarboJDSBlueDevl: OK, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-25"04:41
efoxif anyone could give me the syntax or something04:41
__mikemn00bWillingToLearn, I really can't think what else the problem could be04:41
garryFMine must be a fake too then.04:41
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WarboAidyMole: Ah, didn't know that (but I am 32bit x86 anyway)04:41
nomasteryodaleboff, you should install the gnome-network-manager04:41
paradiseNickGarvey: it says 1.5.0.3 is the latest when I chose update04:42
NickGarvey!info mozilla-firefox04:42
leboffnomasteryoda: got it.. but i dont think it tells you in there04:42
ubotumozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 104 kB04:42
JDSBlueDevlit's saying it isn't installed04:42
NickGarveyparadise: :)04:42
paradiseNickGarvey: why does it say 1.5.03 for me?04:42
nomasteryodasure it will if you mean wireless04:42
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Add "-386" (or your architecture) to the end sorry04:42
markgwas poking around on SF and saw qwine out there too04:42
NickGarveyparadise: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:42
nomasteryodamouse over the tray icon with the bars04:42
proctorparadise is running breezy tho, right?04:42
nomasteryodathat is what mine has04:42
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TantalumI justinstalled nvidia-glc but when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get an error message saying that nvidia-glx-config not found04:42
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paradiseproctor: yes breezy04:43
NickGarveyAidyMole: also, 32 bit only works on the AMD, some of the intel don't run 32 bit04:43
paradiseNickGarvey: im using Breezy04:43
leboffnomasteryoda: hmm.. i have it on my laptop but not my desktop..04:43
AidyMoleNickGarvey: Tell me what's the chance someone has IA6404:43
JDSBlueDevlshould I run this under sudo?04:43
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you have chrooted then you should be root anyway04:43
paradiseNickGarvey: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper04:43
leboffnomasteryoda: any way to make sure its installed04:43
JDSBlueDevlit's giving me problems again04:43
NickGarveyparadise: heh, I dunno then04:43
paradiseproctor: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper04:44
leboffparadise: wha wha whaaa!!04:44
nomasteryodaleboff, open synaptic is easy way04:44
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paradiseleboff04:44
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: What kind of problem?04:44
nomasteryodaor use which04:44
paradiseNickGarvey: you using Dapper?04:44
JDSBlueDevlFATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only file system04:44
yosupok...how do i add options to the boot cd04:44
JDSBlueDevlThere was a problem running depmod04:44
NickGarveyparadise: suse 10.104:44
nomasteryodaleboff, which gnome-network-manager04:44
paradiseleboff: you muslim riught?04:44
paradiseNickGarvey: this is ubuntu channel FOOL04:44
JDSBlueDevlTHis may be benign04:44
JDSBlueDevlor this could be an error04:44
JDSBlueDevldepmod exited with return value of 104:44
markgthink over the last week fighting ati I rolled about 6 distros  just to get back around to kubuntu on wednesday when the drivers came out lol.04:45
JDSBlueDevlit's asking if I want to abort04:45
JDSBlueDevlor continue04:45
leboffnomasteryoda: .. hold on, i'm gettin it now.. maybe it didnt come when i updated to dapper..04:45
NickGarveyparadise: really? I thought this was #suse </sarcasm>04:45
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Seems like hda1 is mounted read only. In another root terminal run "mount -o remount -rw /where/you/have/mounted/hda1"04:45
leboffparadise: what are you talkin about?04:45
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garryFNever ever go to the wrong channel? Hmmm.04:45
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NickGarveygarryF: heh I'm in the right one04:45
nomasteryodaleboff, that is what happend to me too... i had to go back and install it04:45
__mikemn00bWillingToLearn, do me a favor, as a last ditch effort, boot into the installation, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd04:45
garryFNickGarvey hehe , yeah I know.04:45
JDSBlueDevlok, did that04:46
NickGarvey:)04:46
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leboffnomasteryoda: oh ok, then thanks for the help.. i appreciate it04:46
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Try taht dpkg-reconfigure again (in the chroot terminal)04:46
paradiseleboff: you a leb muslim?04:46
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JDSBlueDevlouch, it's giving a whole bunch of "permission denied"04:46
fdsdHey guys, I just want to let everyone know I made dinner for the first time today! Chicken, peppers and brocolli,  Yes I know its amazing, but I am just a normal man, You can do this too!04:46
paradizelosthey all.  can anyone help me to turn on Large File Support on Apache2 on ddapper?04:46
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Try running "su"04:46
JDSBlueDevlbut it said it was able to write04:46
paradiseNickGarvey: stop taking those anti depressent medication04:46
JDSBlueDevlyeah I did sudo04:46
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n00bWillingToLeaOK but first I am just going to create a new user on a hunch to see if it works.04:46
WarboJDSBlueDevl: No, run "su" then do the dpkg-reconfigure04:46
__mikemok04:47
paradiseWarbo: you cant run su on breezy04:47
NickGarveyWarbo: su in ubuntu doesn't work04:47
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__mikemif that doesn't work, I am out of ideas04:47
NickGarveyWarbo: do "sudo -i" instead04:47
leboffparadise: nah sorry not sure what that means even04:47
tach00!pastebin04:47
WarboIs it installed though?04:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:47
WarboI have found that it works in a chroot fine04:47
paradiseWarbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work04:47
paradizelostlarge file support - having files larger than 2GB show up04:47
JDSBlueDevlpermission denied again04:47
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paradiseWarbo: not true04:47
JDSBlueDevlbut it said it was able to write04:48
JDSBlueDevlwell, I'll just have to try it04:48
Warboparadise: Where have you been? In a Chinese pipe? Su works for root04:48
garryFfdsd I once saw a thing that said ye might be too busy if 90% of your meals are handed to you through the car window.04:48
leboffnomasteryoda: now i'm gettin no network devices found :/04:48
NickGarveyWarbo: (no it doesn't)04:48
NickGarvey!root > Warbo04:48
alii am facing two problems one i cannot connect to pop on my website04:48
WarboNickGarvey: Then how come I am root in an xterm right now?04:48
leboffmaybe a restart will do it.. will it automatically load now?04:48
NickGarveyWarbo: because you "sudo passwd root" when you installed04:48
ali'192.168.0.3-192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0'"04:48
NickGarveyWarbo: its off by default04:48
paradizelostNickGarvey: it does if you set it up right04:48
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WarboNickGarvey: Oh no I haven't that is stupid04:48
aliother i am getting following warning message "  WARNING: Netmask masks away part of the specified IP in '192.168.0.3-192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0'"04:48
paradiseWarbo: rubbish, doesnt work04:49
aliwhat should i do to solve it ?04:49
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???04:49
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paradiseWarbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work04:49
NickGarveyWarbo: well, then you have a different ubunt then everyone else..04:49
fdsdgarryF, lol, that was my life during college, I just realized, I could take that money and make my own food, and enjoy my meals much much more04:49
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Warboparadise: Were you doing it in a chroot jail?04:49
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paradiseali: get a new nick for starters04:49
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lebofftheres gotta be some command line way to check your link04:49
pete-is-outsidehi i'm trying to burn ubuntu onto a CD and i need help with where to extract and burn the .rar download on the site04:49
paradiseWarbo: you are trolling04:49
NickGarveypete-is-outside: it should be an ISO04:49
aliparadise, what is that new nicK ?04:49
paradiseWarbo: you are trolling if you claim su works in Ubuntu, because it doesnt!  Stop trolling04:50
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pete-is-outsidejust one file?04:50
NickGarveypete-is-outside: if you are running windows, try cdburner xp pro04:50
paradizelostali: is this on a dhcp server?04:50
pete-is-outsidewell i just build a shuttle04:50
paradiseali: how about gracious04:50
NickGarveypete-is-outside: make sure you download off the ubuntu site04:50
Warboparadise: What? No, I am stating that running su in a chroot of an Ubunt usystem as root works perfectly well, and allows you to be come root (or any other user) of the chroot system04:50
wastrelsu works in ubuntu04:50
pete-is-outsidei know, but is it just the iso i put on the CD?04:50
garryFfdsd Yeah, I made chicken too tonight in one of those foreman grills. I ususally got to restarurant in town because of the pretty waitresses.04:50
NickGarveywastrel: only if you turn it on..04:50
pete-is-outsidenothing else from the zip?04:50
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aliparadizelost, nope it is on a fix ip04:50
wastrelNickGarvey:  su <username> ...04:50
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JDSBlueDevlok, now after the Uncompressing Linux line, it's giving me a whole bunch of "not found"04:50
NickGarveywastrel: heh, we mean root04:51
fdsdgarryF, you should ask her out, then she can make food for you!04:51
JDSBlueDevlas in /init: 86: depmod: not found04:51
WarboNickGarvey: Honestly, if you have time later boot a livecd and mount your root partition, then chroot into it and run su04:51
paradizelostali: no, what is giving you the error?  because 192.168.0.255 is not a valid ip address04:51
aliparadizelost, problem is only the pop3 and smtp is not getting on a remote server04:51
JDSBlueDevlwhat does that mean?04:51
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???04:51
paradiseWarbo: rubbish04:51
JDSBlueDevlit's also hanging04:51
paradisegarryF: can you run su in ubuntu?04:51
JDSBlueDevlhello, having more problems04:51
paradiseJDSBlueDevl: hanging out to dry?04:51
__mikem192.168.0.x is the same ip range our private LAN uses04:51
garryFfdsd Eeeney Meeney Miney Moe, which pretty waitress to ask out I do not know.04:51
NickGarveyWarbo: By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu. This means you cannot login as root or use su. Instead, the installer will setup sudo to allow the user that is created during install to run all administrative commands.04:51
fdsdgarryF, it was teriyaki marinaded, soo good04:51
paradiseJDSBlueDevl: user error04:52
leboffi wish you could have a british accent on the internet..04:52
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JDSBlueDevlyeah, it's hanging after /init: 1: /sbin/usplash_write: not found04:52
NickGarveyWarbo: right off the wiki man, you should read the friendly manual ;)04:52
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fdsdgarryF, all of them, for each day of the week04:52
paradiseNickGarvey: exactly04:52
garryFparadise Hmmm, I've nver been able to get su workng tho sudo works fine.04:52
n00bWillingToLeaIt's working with a new user.04:52
paradiseWarbo: did you read NickGarvey comment?04:52
JDSBlueDevluser error?04:52
kaot__mikem: but .255 isn't a valid IP address it's the broadcast address of the network,given that netmask04:52
pete-is-outsideNickGarvey so i only burn the iso onto the CD?04:52
JDSBlueDevlwhat's the error?04:52
NickGarveypete-is-outside: yes, it should be about 700 MB04:52
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pete-is-outsidealright thank you04:52
paradisegarryF: exatly!  tell that to the troll Warbo :)04:52
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wastreli just used su04:53
JDSBlueDevlparadise: what error?04:53
wastreldon't call people troll04:53
__mikemn00bWillingToLea, that indicates a polocy issue, I would recomend backing up all your data and moving over to a new user account04:53
paradiseWarbo: you troll when you keep claiming su works in Ubuntu04:53
garryFfdsd Hmmm I'll shall have to try teriaki. I usually spice it up with about six bottles of spices cause I can't decide wich I like.04:53
NickGarveywastrel: thats because you used "sudo passwd root"04:53
paradiseJDSBlueDevl: user error, not ubuntu error04:53
n00bWillingToLeaOK04:53
aliparadizelost, it is changed now04:53
paradisewastrel: I can type in su too, but it wont work04:53
JDSBlueDevlok, that means nothing04:53
__mikemsudo passwd root is the first thing I do when I install ubuntu04:53
fdsdgarryF, the butcher in my grocery store does it for me for free, its really really good04:53
garryFI tried su in ubuntu, and it never worked, tho I can get sudo working fine. /shrug04:53
Warbo!pastebin04:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:53
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wastrelparadise:  well it can be made to work, so don't go calling people troll.04:54
paradisegarryF: :)04:54
aliparadizelost, still the same error i changed to 25404:54
JDSBlueDevldropped down into BusyBox04:54
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nomasteryodagarryF, designed to use sudo ubuntu is04:54
garryFI tried to get su to dig a ditch for work, but it said shovel not found.04:54
JDSBlueDevlI tried dpkg-reconfigure when I booted off a Knoppix LiveDVD04:54
nomasteryodafor security04:54
smoofraanyone know if the ubuntu server DVD can do a whole install via serial port?04:54
garryFnomasteryoda hehe, Yep. I like the syntax.04:54
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nomasteryodaya04:54
leboffi tried to get su in my bed... didnt work out so well04:55
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???04:55
garryFparadise I have a doctorate in ditch technology.04:55
nomasteryodasmoofra, wow that would take quite a while04:55
Warbohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16913 There04:55
NickGarveyleboff: heh, "su hot04:55
kaotI dated a girl named Sue.  Called her Su in emails.  She didn't get it.  :\04:55
JDSBlueDevlthis is worse off than the 15-23 kernel, which at least loads the splash screens04:55
nomasteryodasmoofra, no usb or cd drive?04:55
NickGarveyleboff: heh, "su hot_guy" never works for me04:55
JDSBlueDevlthis isn't helping04:55
JDSBlueDevlhelp!04:55
kaotI tried to explain it, she broke up with me shortly thereafter.04:55
paradisegarryF: define ditch technology.04:55
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nomasteryodakaot, sounds logical04:56
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Ok, if you use su in the chroot you should become root for your system, rather than root for KNOPPIX, then you should have permission04:56
kaotyes.04:56
garryFparadise I used to do yardwork for a living digging ditches and mowing lawns.04:56
zcat[1] my wife is su04:56
kaotI guess no one told her what I did for fun.04:56
orcdestroyeranyone knows about the rules of iptables firewall ?04:56
paradisegarryF: ok04:56
JDSBlueDevlok, then I should boot into Knoppix again04:56
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paradisegarryF: God bless your heart04:56
smoofranomasteryoda: it has usb and a cd drive it just doesn't have VGA04:56
leboffzcat[1]   as in your wife is very powerful.. or her name is su..04:56
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you reconfigure the linux-image then you should be able to boot into Ubuntu (ie. that's it)04:57
nomasteryodasmoofra, ah ic04:57
zcat[1] Sue...04:57
garryFparadise and my shovel. Hehe. and your's too. :)04:57
leboffah04:57
JDSBlueDevlwell, I did that, and it didn't work04:57
JDSBlueDevlwe're going to have to do this step by step04:57
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hmm, still the no permission error?04:57
JDSBlueDevlyeah04:57
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nomasteryodasmoofra, well you could follow the install screens shots from osdir and i think install blind04:57
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zcat[1] my wife doesn't know much about linux though, I wouldn't trust her with root access :)04:57
nomasteryoda=D04:57
paradisegarryF: :)04:57
blindinstall me?04:57
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I will scroll up and try to understand it a little better04:57
orcdestroyercan anyone help me with iptables?04:58
nomasteryodaLOL blind wow did not know you were here04:58
nomasteryodahehe04:58
NickGarveyzcat[1] : "/bin"? is that a trash bin? I should clear it04:58
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???04:58
blindno one ever does :)04:58
paradisezcat[1] : pls dont disrespect your wife04:58
smoofranomasteryoda: so there's no way to do a curses install via the serial port :(04:58
__mikemblind, I was BLIND to your pressence04:58
__mikemlol04:58
nomasteryodasmoofra, lets see04:59
nomasteryodagive me a sec04:59
garryFparadise Me thinks that those who disrespect their wives have watched too much married with children.04:59
LoneShadowwhat do I need to modify to make icewm as the default wm and to load as a particular user id, without asking for a login ?04:59
paradisegarryF: indeed04:59
JDSBlueDevlOK, Knoppix booted up04:59
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luluzinhahi05:00
NickGarveyhello05:00
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tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???05:00
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hmm. Don't really understand those errors. As far as I know, if you add modules to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and reconfigure linux-image (rebuild the initrd) then you can use those modules, so Linux should have no problem accessing the drive05:01
JDSBlueDevlwhat modules?05:01
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: By the way, don't use sudo in the chroot because it doesn't work that well and that may screw up su05:01
orcdestroyerhow can I direcionate ports using iptables ?05:01
mary-katehi i had a question, about the ubuntu 5.10 distro05:01
orcdestroyerre-dir05:01
WarboJDSBlueDevl: The PATA modules05:01
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mary-kateare there anymore updates for 5.10?05:01
JDSBlueDevlI don't know what those are05:01
nomasteryodamary-kate, upgrade to dapper05:01
wastrelmary-kate:  security updates only05:02
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mary-katei have dapper on cd05:02
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but there is no point rebuilding the linux-image if it is exactly the same as the one you already have :)05:02
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nomasteryodamary-kate, you can just upgrade using dist-upgrade if you have good internet connection05:02
tach00i guess i am being ignored05:02
JDSBlueDevlso the problem is with the modules file05:02
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I though you seemed to go through the adding modules step a little quickly.......05:02
nomasteryodatach00, what was your issue?05:02
JDSBlueDevlyeah, you didn't really help me with that05:03
tach00http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???05:03
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: You need to find out the name of all of the PATA modules you might need, then put them in that file one per line, then rebuild the initrd05:03
mary-kateis it a MUST that i upgrade to dapper?05:03
Adrosswith the podcast plugin in banshee, what directory are the downloaded podcasts in?05:03
mary-kateor can i keep breezy badger?05:03
nomasteryodatach00, you using clustering?05:03
Warbomary-kate: No, you will have a secure system, but no fancy new stuff05:03
wastrelmary-kate:  it's not necessary05:03
tach00i am sorry but i don know what tht is05:04
JDSBlueDevlwhere would I find that?05:04
nomasteryodaway, logical volume manager05:04
mary-kateah05:04
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JDSBlueDevlthis isn't helping05:04
nomasteryodalvm05:04
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JDSBlueDevlpretend I'm stupid05:04
nomasteryodalol05:04
nomasteryodawell i was earlier05:04
zcat[1] breezy still has support for another year, right/05:04
tach00yeh, sucs to be the new guy05:04
zcat[1] ?05:04
nomasteryodatried to install dapper on an iMac05:04
nomasteryodafailed very much so05:04
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mary-katethen it's by choice if i wanna upgrade or not, correct?05:04
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: in a root KNOPPIX terminal do "nano /path/to/your/ubuntu/system/etc/mkinitramfs/modules"05:04
nomasteryodagoogled and found upgrade from breezy is the only option for now05:05
dribblehey all - if I were looking to setup a box as a primary file server, hosting music and apps and such for the other boxes in the network, what would the proper protocol be...?  NFS?  Samba?05:05
tmccraryIs there a way to change the theme and font used for wine applications?05:05
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JDSBlueDevlok, it's open in KWrite05:05
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tach00what is clustering and how do i turn it off?05:05
nomasteryodadribble, sharing apps?05:05
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Adrossdribble: what are the other computers? Windows?05:05
tmccrarydribble: NFS for unix machines, SMB for windows05:05
nomasteryodajust sec tach0005:05
tach00sure05:05
nomasteryodadribble, you can do nice web setup with ampache05:05
Warbotmccrary: Yes, get a ".msstyles" theme05:05
nomasteryodasharing music05:05
Adrossdribble: samba is probably your best bet, but gshare is also good05:05
tmccrarydribble: If you have mixed environment, you're probably better off going samba05:05
dribbleAdross, just *nix, but, being able to use a windows box in the future would be good05:06
nomasteryodaor gnump3d for music and video05:06
KartharakDoes anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back05:06
dribbletmccrary, thx05:06
tmccrarywarbo: thank you, I will try that05:06
Adrossdribble: samba then05:06
JDSBlueDevlwhat next?05:06
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iJeffDoes anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back05:06
dribbleAdross, thx05:06
mary-kateok, how long will security upgrade for breezy be available?05:06
Warbotmccrary: I have forgotten exactly where you put them, I will check on my system05:06
Adrossdribble: pleasure05:06
nomasteryodatach00, so is this system already installed?05:06
tach00yes05:06
jajaja0anyone know how I can get my fx5200 svideo out better quality?05:06
JDSBlueDevlunder This might be good choices are commented raidi and sd_mod05:06
tach00and updated05:06
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tmccrarywarbo: in the graphic section of winecfg maybe?05:07
nomasteryodamary-kate, dapper is LTS (long term support = 5 years)...05:07
nomasteryodamuch better05:07
nomasteryodatach00, ic05:07
tach00now i have 2 issues, one is that something is stuck andi cant install anything with out gettig errors05:07
tmccrarywarbo: Do the xp msstyles themes work?05:07
mary-kateand breezy badger?05:07
Warbotmccrary: Put them in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Resources/Themes in a folder with the name of the theme, then fire up winecfg and look in Desktop Integration tab05:07
tmccraryokay cool05:07
nomasteryodatach00,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186356.html05:07
JDSBlueDevlWarbo: where are you?05:07
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Warbotmccrary: I have tried a few and they all work, although some are a little crappy :)05:08
kkaisaremary-kate: Perchance Badger has already been relegated to history. I'm not sure though.05:08
tmccraryokay cool, thanks man, I appreciate the help05:08
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mary-katerelegated?05:08
nomasteryodatach00, did you do dist-upgrade?05:08
WarboJDSBlueDevl: It doesn't matter if you add modules which you don't need, so just add any which are relevant. I have no idea what PATA ones are called though, I will Google05:08
tach00yes05:08
kkaisaremary-kate: redirected, if you like. :)05:09
cjfpHow can I get Firefox to open text source code files in a new tab?05:09
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cjfpI looked at /etc/mime.types but I don't understand.05:09
tach00i was using synaptic when i accidentally clicked kemirror and the it just started with the errors05:09
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mary-kateah05:09
nomasteryodacjfp, i would guess you can do that with the developer extension05:09
tach00now i cant gt r of it nor can i reinstall it05:09
nomasteryodaweb developer05:09
cjfpnomasteryoda: is there a way just to make firefox ignore mime-types?05:10
nomasteryodakemirror?05:10
tach00sorry the keyboard is my other issue, not speling wrong on purpose05:10
iJeffDoes anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back05:10
nomasteryodacjfp, sure if you type about:config in the address bar05:10
cjfpi mean, anything matching text/x-*, i just want to open in a tab...05:10
nomasteryodagoogle it05:10
tach00yes for windows ce, didnt mean to install it05:10
WarboiJeff: In KDE?05:10
nomasteryodatach00, ic05:10
kkaisaremary-kate: Still, I'm not sure. And as long as the repositories are available, I assume that the packages may be updated on occasion. Seems too much to ask them to manage two issues at once, though.05:10
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cjfpnomasteryoda: yes, i've been looking at about:config, that's how i found out about /etc/mime.types05:11
nomasteryodatach00, can you do apt-get install --fix-missing?05:11
tach00i have tried every apt-get command i know and nothing works05:11
JDSBlueDevlmore problems, I tried writing what was in that BootFromUSB to the file in nano, and it's telling me that the file system is read-only05:11
JDSBlueDevlwhat does that mean/05:11
JDSBlueDevl?05:11
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nomasteryodaapt-get remove clvm -f05:11
nomasteryoda-f = force05:11
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nomasteryodause da force, you will05:12
nomasteryoda=D05:12
WarboJDSBlueDevl: It seems like KNOPPIX mounts stuff read only, so do the "mount -o remount -rw /path/to/ubuntu" command again05:12
amonkeywhen i try to run gnome-window-decorator i get the error (gnome-window-decorator:14184): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_color_parse: assertion `spec != NULL' failed. what does that mean?05:12
cjfpi guess i can ask on #firefox, i thought it was a ubuntu thing05:12
JDSBlueDevlok, did that05:12
JDSBlueDevltry it again?05:12
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Yes05:12
iJeffWarbo: in Gnome05:12
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tach00however did not try those, trying now05:13
JDSBlueDevlok, saved05:13
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Some of those USB ones may be a good idea, since they inckuse SCSI ones, but PATA will need some more (although adding all of the USB ones is not a problem, you just end up with a slightly bigger initrd.img)05:13
JDSBlueDevlnext, do the dpkg-reconfigure, right?05:13
an0malistI just installed windows on another partiiton on this pc and it overwrote my MBR.. im in the ubuntu live CD now.. how do I restore grub?05:13
mary-kateokie dokie i bbl if i have anymore ?'s ttyl05:14
tach00Errors were encountered while processing:05:14
tach00 clvm05:14
tach00E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (105:14
WarboiJeff: I don't know the syntax for Metacity config files sorry (but I know they are in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes)05:14
tach00im telling you, this problem is strange05:14
Warbosudo grub-install /dev/hda (where hda is your drive)05:15
an0malistman, i tried that05:15
an0malisti knew i was right05:15
an0malistcheck this out:05:15
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an0malistubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda05:15
an0malistProbing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.05:15
an0malistCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.05:15
JDSBlueDevlok, what was the command for the dpkg-reconfigure?05:15
nomasteryodatach00, have you rebooted since?05:15
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Well you need to chroot into your Ubuntu system first, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-23-386"05:16
netuser-ctbaBoa noite.. algum do Brasil aqui?05:16
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tach00many times05:16
JDSBlueDevluh oh, gave me the same permission denied errors in 15-2505:16
JDSBlueDevlyou mean go to 15-23?05:16
tach00the only thing i havent done is a total reinstall05:16
JDSBlueDevlok05:16
JDSBlueDevlpermission denied again05:17
JDSBlueDevlcrap, I put in sudo05:17
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Use which ever kernel you want to reconfigure (the one you are going to use)05:17
amonkeyi can't get gnome-window-decorator to start, can anyone help?05:17
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Sudo won't work, but su will05:17
JDSBlueDevlpermission denied again05:18
JDSBlueDevlthis isn't helping05:18
tach00my system does not like me05:18
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hmm. That is weird, try "ls -l whateverfilehaspermissiondenied"05:18
JDSBlueDevlthis is output for ls -l /dev/null05:18
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wastrelthe word of the day is "yipe"05:19
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Ah, /dev/null, I can do that :)05:19
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JDSBlueDevlcrw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 May 20 00:00 /dev/null05:19
JDSBlueDevlyeah, and that's only the tip of the iceberg05:19
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Go into a new root terminal and run "mount --bind /dev /path/to/ubuntu/dev"05:19
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Michael-DKhi all05:20
an0malistAnyone have any ideas?:05:20
an0malistubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda05:20
an0malistProbing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.05:20
an0malistCould not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block dev05:20
saptahi...05:20
tach00are you REALLY the master yoda?05:20
Michael-DKhow the heck do i get flash installed on Ubuntu 64 bit05:20
JDSBlueDevlyou mean /mnt/hda1/dev?05:20
WarboMichael-DK: Install linux3205:20
an0malistyep michael05:21
nomasteryodamaster yoda, me not05:21
JDSBlueDevlbecause when I did that, it said that mount point /mnt/hda1/dev does not exist05:21
nomasteryodahence the name05:21
wastrelMichael-DK:  apparently you create a 32bit chroot05:21
nomasteryoda=D05:21
Michael-DKWarbo oooh ok thx05:21
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Yes, that will redirect any program looking in your Ubuntu's /dev into KNOPPIX's /dev05:21
tach00well i believe it will take a master to fix my machine05:21
nomasteryodaor "no, master yoda" I can't lift the xwing05:21
nomasteryodalol05:21
JDSBlueDevloops, b/c I initially did it without the /dev in hda105:21
Warbowastrel: You can do that, or use linux32 to run 32bit apps in 64bit05:21
JDSBlueDevlhow do I undo that?05:21
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wastrelokey dokey05:21
WarboJDSBlueDevl: use "umount /path/to/what/you/want/to/unmount" (binding is a type of mounting)05:22
nomasteryodatach00, boot into the safe mode and try to do apt-get update05:22
tach00too bad one of you linux guru's can't telnet into my machine and fix my problem lol05:22
tach00dd that05:22
tach00did05:22
nomasteryodatach00, can you setup ssh?05:22
JDSBlueDevlok, did that, then redid the mount05:22
tach00???05:22
JDSBlueDevlwhat next?05:22
nomasteryodaif you portforwarded from your router the ssh05:22
nomasteryodathen someone could ssh into it05:22
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nomasteryodareally05:23
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Try again?05:23
nomasteryodanot me though05:23
JDSBlueDevlyeah, I just bound05:23
JDSBlueDevlwhat next?05:23
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nomasteryodamy firewall is too tight05:23
tach00tell me how and i will05:23
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I mean the dpkg-reconfigure05:23
an0malistlol05:23
JDSBlueDevlok05:23
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an0malistim just patiently waiting my turn for help with this grub reinstall05:23
neotardepiphany is a pretty good browser, better than firefox methinks :)05:23
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JDSBlueDevlok, just waiting now05:24
WarboEpiphany is great, you don;t get all of that plugin crap05:24
JDSBlueDevlhow long should it hang?05:24
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nomasteryodaan0malist, have you looked online for directions?05:24
WarboJDSBlueDevl: dpkg-reconfigure worked?05:24
wastrelhmm epiphany eh.05:24
JDSBlueDevllooks like it05:24
JDSBlueDevlno more permission denied05:24
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an0malistyeah, and im still looking now...05:24
JDSBlueDevlI guess it's time to reboot05:24
Michael-DKwell bedtime for me 5.20 am here :-)) cya all and goodnight/ BTW im known as Mike-X205:25
JDSBlueDevlI should probably rebuild for 15-23 first05:25
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Then Linux will have access to all of the modules you added when you boot into Ubuntu now, so if you bothered to add some PATA ones then it will have direct access to your PATA drive05:25
nomasteryodaan0malist, this might help you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html05:25
keithhhhhwhat is the best video editing software for ubuntu?05:25
wastrelthere's video editing software ?05:25
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nomasteryodaLOL05:26
nomasteryodakeno?05:26
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Warbokeithhhhh: I like LiVES, but it seems to screw up when saving :(05:26
JDSBlueDevlI don't know what the PATA ones are, though05:26
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WarboKino and even Blender are good05:26
doubletwistSo what's the most current, method of getting xgl/compiz working? I keep finding different methods and don't know which one works the best currently.05:26
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wastreldoubletwist:  did you ask on #ubuntu-xgl ?05:26
doubletwistoops, no05:26
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tonyyarussodoubletwist: Check in #ubuntu-xgl05:26
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doubletwistDidn't know about that one. Thanks.05:27
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ajax4How do I enable the "Run..." option on the Start menu?05:27
keithhhhhWarbo:  thanks ;)05:27
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but I know someone who does http://uk.ask.com/web?q=What+the+hell+are+the+PATA+modules+in+Linux+kernels+called%3F&qsrc=0&o=312&dm=all05:27
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Macbook001I have huge balls05:27
doubletwistclassy05:28
Macbook001But of course.05:28
WarboMacbook001: In your mouse?05:28
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JDSBlueDevlwell, that helped05:28
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JDSBlueDevlI wish05:28
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JDSBlueDevlwould it be ide_generic?05:29
WarboJDSBlueDevl: "ls /lib/modules/*" look in there for some modules05:29
JDSBlueDevlok05:29
phill64Hmm05:29
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JDSBlueDevlI just have to redo everything b/c I tried rebooting, and it didn't work with the modules file the way it is05:30
phill64May I start a separate, very noobish discussion?05:30
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nomasteryodalol05:31
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nomasteryodaphill64, shoot away05:31
phill64Hmm05:31
ochamehaio05:31
phill64Where is a good documentation on how to delete an old Linux parition05:31
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phill64[SUSE] 05:31
phill64and install a dualboot for Windows05:31
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Warbophill64: Just use GParted05:31
Warbo!gparted05:31
ubotugparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php05:31
nomasteryodaphill64, yes gparted05:31
phill64hmm05:31
nomasteryodabest way05:31
taklzhi i have a question when ready05:32
phill64Wheres some docs on gparted05:32
nomasteryodajust make sure you umount it05:32
phill64No idea. =P05:32
ajax4taklz: go ahead05:32
taklzalright05:32
tonyyarussophill64: Don't really need one.  Installing Windows will overwrite it by default, then you can just read the dual-boot docs for Ubuntu.05:32
JDSBlueDevlok, found what looks like a whole bunch of modules05:32
JDSBlueDevlmodules.alias05:32
JDSBlueDevlmodules.ccwmap05:32
taklzwhen i shutdown it doesn't shut down05:32
taklzlol05:32
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JDSBlueDevlmodules.dep05:32
taklzit gives me a weird looking screen05:32
taklzand just never shuts down05:32
JDSBlueDevlnone of these telling me anything05:32
taklzand i have to do it manually05:32
ajax4Does Gparted also copy over the MBR?05:32
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taklzusing my buttons05:32
WarboJDSBlueDevl: There is a whole directory structure, and each module file ends in ".ko"05:33
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JDSBlueDevlwell, nothing ends in .ko05:33
JDSBlueDevlare you sure I'm looking in the right place?05:33
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: Hang on05:33
wastrelfind / -name "*ko"05:33
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taklzerr05:34
taklzsince ajax left05:34
taklzcan someone else help me?05:34
wastreltaklz:  windows will write itself to the mbr when it installs05:34
phill64Um.05:34
JDSBlueDevloh, I see, they're in the separate directories within the kernel directory05:34
phill64What if you already have Windows installed?05:35
taklzconfused05:35
wastreloops wrong person :]   sorry taklz05:35
taklzhaha05:35
taklzalright05:35
taklzlol05:35
wastrelphill64: you have windows installed, install linux, then boot both with grub.05:35
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phill64Uhuh.05:35
JDSBlueDevlok, what now?05:35
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I can't really find anything in my directory which looks like it might be PATA, I have looked in ide, char & block05:35
dribblehey guys, so. . .my boxes cannot resolve each others names on the same subnet.  when doing rsync/scp between them, hell, even to ping, i need to explicitly enter the relevent IP address.  how can i remedy this?05:35
an0malistjust make sure you install windows first :P05:36
JDSBlueDevlwould it be under initrd, kernel, or madwifi?05:36
an0malistcuz Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT about your linux install05:36
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an0malistthen you'll be stuck like me05:36
WarboJDSBlueDevl: If you find some thing that you want to try then write it into the modules file (without the .ko) and it will be built into the initrd05:36
dr_willisor you learn how grub works :)05:36
phill64Oh05:37
wastreldribble:  add them to /etc/hosts  ?05:37
JDSBlueDevlwould it be under fs?05:37
phill64Grub is sort of easy to config.05:37
dribblewastrel, so i have to do it explicitly?05:37
an0malistyeah and thats what im doing, but i do find this rather rediclous.. I don't spend a lot of time working in GRUB, so i shouldn't have to spend alot of time just getting it to work05:37
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phill64lol05:37
dr_willisphill64,  its amazing what all grub can do.05:37
WarboJDSBlueDevl: I think it will be under block or maybe ide, but they seem a little generic, or they just have numbers. Nothing says "pata.ko" or something05:37
phill64I heard it booted somewhere like 100 different OS's,.05:37
Alethesis there a musicbrainz capable tag editor for gnome?05:37
an0malistyeah yeah yeah05:38
dr_willisGrub is one of the top 10 things to learn about - to become linux profficient. :P05:38
taklzwhen i shutdown my computer it hangs at a screen with a bunch of different colors all messed up and never shuts down unless i do it manually05:38
Alethesamarok does it, but I don't want to install all the kde crap just to use musicbrainz05:38
JDSBlueDevlooh, I might actually have it formatted at ext2 or ext305:38
an0malistbah, im just running the command like ubuntu help file said05:38
an0malistand grub spits in my face :D05:38
Warbophill64: GRUB can boot any PC OS, since it can "chainload" which basically lets any other bootloader run, that's how it boots Windows05:38
phill64Oh also, Should I have a new partition as Extended on hdb or primary?05:38
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: That shouldn't matter, as long as your /etc/fstab is right05:39
Warbowoah05:39
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rpedroAlethes:  ex falso is a tag editor , don't know that it does musicbrainz though05:39
JDSBlueDevland anything with a hyphen should be turned into an underscore, right?05:39
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JDSBlueDevloh, nvm05:39
Alethes* Received a malformed DCC request from er[0] nbcn.05:39
Alethes(23:38:43) * Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA05:39
phill64All I want is [I'm guessing 20gigs?]  for / and 30gigs for /home; how would I do this in gparted.05:39
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: I think either works05:39
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phill64and what the hell is wrong with this?05:39
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dr_willisAlethes,  that just kicked off more people. :P05:40
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WarboJDSBlueDevl: I have a good idea, run "lsmod" in KNOPPIX to see what it is using05:40
phill64Ahh, to many people are leaving , I can't read.05:40
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passworddddhello where can i see the os releases of linux?05:40
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wastrel!ops05:40
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ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!05:40
WarboAnother Freenode server must be playing up05:40
dr_willisphill64,  thats why i normally have parts/joines hidden by default05:40
JDSBlueDevlI think it might be the ide-generic05:40
wastrelthanks05:40
dr_willispasswordddd,  Huh? clarify that.05:40
wastrelwoo that's a new twist.05:40
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phill64How do I hide joins then?05:40
phill64In gaim.05:41
HedgeMagenalioth: klined it already :)05:41
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jpgvietnamhow  to read *.chm on unbuntu linux05:41
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jpgvietnam?05:41
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nalioththanks, HedgeMage05:41
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passwordddddr_willis05:41
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jpgvietnamhelp me05:41
passworddddthe os of linux05:41
taklzcan anyone help me at all? :o05:41
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wastrel!dcc05:41
jpgvietnamhow ?05:41
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-106805:41
passworddddlike ubuntu, redhat, etc05:41
passworddddi want to see all05:41
jonath__!opsj05:41
ubotuI know nothing about opsj05:41
wastreljonath__:  taken care of05:41
jonath__!ops05:41
martin__hello everyone... I've got a question which might be a simple sed alteration - am I in the right place?05:41
dr_willispasswordddd,  google for that disrtowatch web site05:41
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!05:41
passworddddthanks05:42
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wastreldribble:  i think that's the easiest way05:42
hawkaloogiejonath__, don't do that05:42
wastrelmartin__:  sure05:42
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HedgeMageAt least they're dumb enough to do it to staffers, too :)05:42
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Hobbsee_phonehi lilo05:42
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HedgeMagelilo: some DCC exploit troublemakers05:43
HedgeMagelilo: I'm klining them as we go05:43
NickGarveylock and load!05:43
ZenethianHow do I reconfigure Ubuntu to understand that my system clock is NOT set to GMT?05:43
wastrelset up a bot to just kline them05:43
wastrelnobody's got a legit reason to dcc a bot05:43
s|tecrackHowdy lilo :D Ready for another pwnage?05:43
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ardchoilleHedgeMage: Thank you :)05:44
dr_willisIm still curious as to how that exploit works on one port.. but not a differnt one.05:44
HedgeMageardchoille: np babe05:44
tonyyarussoZenethian: Erm, I might be able to find that file - hold on a sec.05:44
martin__hello wastrel - I'm a bit of a noob I'm afraid, but I've taken the plunge as it were - I'm almost there with setting everything up 'just so'... but I'm having a little trouble with a BC news rss feed in conky - at the end of each line I'm getting the []  box character (unrecognised character) and I'm not sure what to do about it05:44
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tmccraryokay cool, themes definately work okay in wine. Now, how do I change the font? The default one is horrible and very windows like and it doesn't fit with my desktop. Anyone know how to change the font in wine?05:44
lilodr_willis: it's designed to spot trojan activity on port 6667 and shut it off....the exploit fakes the activity05:44
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s|khrm05:45
s|kwhat is happening?05:45
dr_willislilo,  so its a feature that causes a bigger problem then it fix's :P05:45
wastrelmartin__:  it's probably a windows linefeed character...  is this a static file?  don't know anything about conky05:45
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Warbotmccrary: I know I did it somehow a while ago, but couldn't change it back. I had an ugly WINE for about a year05:45
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wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".05:45
martin__wastrel: no, it's a grep output05:45
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LoRezWarning: `bugs__,ed^c4rl^^,ed_rush,fragile_m,marc3lus|gone,v5h4rkx^888' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.05:45
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Hobbsee_phonelilo!05:45
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NickGarveygo away...05:45
charle97wow05:45
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Aletheswhew05:46
HedgeMagegrr05:46
Healotsomeone hate freenode so much?05:46
NickGarveydr_willis: yeah, like some firewalls would flipout with "startkeylo*ger", because it would watch that port and watch for a virus attack05:46
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eonwhat packages do i have to get to use gcc in Ubuntu?  i got gcc and make05:46
charle97how do we know we're infected?05:46
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Healotor a disgruntled user?05:46
NickGarveyHealot: trolls hate everyone05:46
eonbut when i run configure it errors out05:46
wastrelit wouldn't disrupt the channel if people would just fix their junk :p05:46
eonon anything05:46
hawkaloogieeon, build-essentials05:46
Warboeon: build-essential05:46
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wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".05:46
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ruxpincan I compile from source via synaptics?05:46
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PORDOi just wrote my friend at intel about the new xeon specs.  he replied...05:46
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nalioth!dcc > Alethes05:46
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PORDOYessir!  Just wait for the chipset with 1333Mhz FSB, the DDR2-1066,05:46
PORDOsupporting dual-Conroe (4 core) Desktop CPUs in the next half...05:46
PORDObwahaha.  I'm still working on BIOS for said chipset.05:46
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NickGarveyand the ban hammer falls!05:46
martin__wastrel: it uses curl to get the feed, then uses regular expressions to cut out the html tags05:46
JDSBlueDevlok, here goes nothing05:46
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Alethesnalioth:  thanks :)05:47
NickGarveydoes the D*C thing happen only on windows?05:47
JDSBlueDevlyup, ide-generic was it05:47
wastrelmartin__:  i'd pipe it thru perl and use chomp but i bet there's a better way...05:47
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Tom7ei have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..05:47
martin__wastrel: what's the etiquette with pasting a (very short) bit of code?05:47
PORDOhrm...what's with all the joins?05:47
NickGarveywhere you get booted?05:47
WarboJDSBlueDevl: It boots now?05:47
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JDSBlueDevlyup05:47
Aletheswhoever I disconnected by that, I apologize, I was just trying to find out what that text was05:47
wastrelmartin__:  anything beyond 2 or 3 lines goes to pastebin05:47
wastrel!pastebin05:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:47
JDSBlueDevlwell, I also put in ide-scsi05:47
WarboJDSBlueDevl: Wow, I was really expecting this method to fail :)05:47
wastrel!dcc05:47
ubotuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-106805:47
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NickGarveyoh its the routers05:47
tonyyarussoZenethian: Gah, I can never remember where that setting is.  I have grep running though.05:48
JDSBlueDevlwell, now you know05:48
wastrelAnyone wondering why they keep disconnecting?  Read the DCC thing above.05:48
Macbook001Is it true guys?05:48
NickGarveyMacbook001: is what?05:48
dr_willisAlethes,  heh - been there , done that by mistake befor also.05:48
Macbook001I hear this room sucks05:48
NickGarveyMacbook001: that it really isn't butter?05:48
martin__wastrel: :) $EXEC $URI | grep title |\ sed -e :a  -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' |\ sed -e 's/[ \t] *//' |\ sed -e 's/\(.*\)/ \1/' |\ sed -e 's/\.//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ head -n $(($LINES + 3)) |\ tail -n $(($LINES))05:48
wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".05:48
NickGarveyMacbook001: yeah dude, it really isn't05:48
JDSBlueDevlthx a lot for eventually getting me there05:48
Macbook001It's not butter at all.05:48
WarboMacbook001: Well it does with you in it :)05:48
Macbook001WHAT?05:48
martin__wastrel: unfortunately I'm no regexp man....05:48
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Alethesdr_willis:  I probably made myself even more ignorant of the issue by disabling join/part messages, so I didn't see anybody disconnect05:48
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wooWhat. The. Fuck.05:49
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phill64Hey Wastrel, can you respond to my pm's, my screen resolution can only handle about two lines of text and I'm unable to read anything due to whatever the hell is going on.05:49
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wastrelthis is a disruptive attack where people join and leave repeatedly05:49
NickGarveyoh when the trolls.. oh when the trolls... oh when the trolls go marching in.. I would hate to be of that number.. oh when the trolls go marching in05:49
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lilo=wohe (C05:49
arapehluhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this through apt-get?05:49
dr_willisAlethes,  with attacks like these going on  - i normally keep parts/joions hidden as well05:49
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NickGarveywoo: I would suggest using an install05:49
gnomefreaklock it down05:49
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Alethesheya lilo -- ltns05:49
ZenethianWell, I guess that's just odd.05:49
lilohi Alethes05:49
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liloAlethes: don't repeat those exploits, they're still live 8)05:50
AlethesI wasn't even aware of the exploit05:50
lilonalioth: that one may have been registered, looked like it05:50
liloAlethes: ah, okay05:50
naliothlilo: i've spoken with him in a time out05:50
synacktionlilo, help all us lost souls!!!!05:50
AlethesI'm only half paying attention here most of the time05:50
naliothwoo: watch your language please05:50
AlethesI just noticed that text and wondered what the hell it was05:50
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wooNickGarvey: What? I am. I'm using the latest Dapper install cd.05:50
woonalioth: Sorry.05:50
NickGarveywoo: the live cd or the install cd?05:50
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NickGarveythe install cd is more.. stable in my opinion05:50
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taklzhi can anyone help me05:51
NickGarveynot that the live cd isn't a well developed piece of software.. but you get the point :)05:51
Warbo!helpme05:51
NickGarveytaklz: ask away05:51
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:51
taklzok05:51
taklzlol05:51
Tom7ei have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..05:51
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taklzwhen i shutdown my computer it hangs at a funny looking screen and i eventually have to manually shut it down05:51
polishkoopHow do I go about installing bitchx on ubuntu dapper?05:51
wooNickGarvey: Heheh, I'm not sure, The live cd, but what would cause the hang?05:51
naliothpolishkoop: use synaptic05:51
Warbotaklz: Can you do ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f8 when it does this?05:52
Springertaklz, you're probably on windows 9505:52
NickGarveywoo: (the live cd is kind of unstable, I suggest the install cd if you can spare the blanks)05:52
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NickGarveywoo: I'm not sure05:52
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taklzumm05:52
ZenethianI kinda wish I had used the install CD when reinstalling.  The live CD did OK but it was too simple, IMO.05:52
taklzid have to try05:52
phill64Wait, the livecd as in the cd that get shipped?05:52
taklzand im not on windows 9505:52
taklzlol05:52
wooNickGarvey: I'll do that as a last resort, link?05:52
NickGarveytaklz: hmm.. do you "shutdown" or "halt"?05:52
wastrelokey dokey.05:52
taklzshutdown05:52
Warbotaklz: That lets you change to different consoles, so you may see some messages about what is going on05:52
NickGarveywoo: um.. just go to the ubuntu site.. and there is a install link there05:52
taklzwith the buttoms ubuntu has in its gui05:52
polishkoopnalioth: nothing shows up05:52
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ZenethianWhich is why I'm having problems with timezones and Ubuntu thinking that my clock is set to GMT05:52
taklzoh ok05:53
phill64Hmm, ok so the cd that they ship, doesn't work that well, right?05:53
taklzyea im pretty sure i cant05:53
taklzits just a messed up looking screen05:53
naliothpolishkoop: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?05:53
byenanyone know how to remove a distro on another drive and reinstall Ubuntu grub?05:53
polishkoopnalioth: i'm new.  I don't know.05:53
wooNickGarvey: It's not like frozen, the cursor is blinking and stuff, it just doesn't go forward.05:53
WarboThe desktop CD makes a very good installer for most people, whilst the text installer makes an adequate installer for everyone05:53
nalioth!sources > polishkoop05:53
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naliothpolishkoop: incoming PM from the info bot05:53
martin__is there a shell equivalent to chop/chomp?05:54
wastrel!grub > byen05:54
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arapehluhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this (http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/msttcorefonts) through apt-get?05:54
byenwastrel: thanks :P05:54
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an0malistif you're using ubuntu, just use synaptic05:55
ochahi05:55
WarboIf I have built a kernel module is there any way to get it to reinstall itself if the kernel gets upgraded?05:55
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wooNickGarvey: The Alternate install cd, or the server install?05:55
martin__arapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts05:55
arapehlan0malist: yeah, but I can't find the package in synaptic and I've got all the repositories checked off.. I'm not sure how to add the right repository to get this thing to show up though.05:55
naliotharapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts05:55
Warbo!fonts05:55
ubotuInstalling fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package05:55
Warbo!multiverse05:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:55
NickGarveywoo: alternate05:55
martin__nalioth: snap :p05:56
arapehlmartin__, nalioth: yeah, says it's outdated :-/05:56
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wastrelmartin__:  perl -e 'while(<>){chomp; print; print "\n";}'  but that's horribly kludgy05:56
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naliotharapehl: use synaptic05:56
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gnomefreakok gonna try to go back to sleep now05:56
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NickGarveygnomefreak: night :)05:57
gnomefreaknight05:57
martin__wastrel: I'd need to add a further pipe with that in?05:57
wastrelmartin__:  yes :] 05:57
WarboI'm still feeling very offended at being called a troll for using su05:57
arapehlnalioth: any details on how if I can't find msttcorefonts when searching for it?05:57
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arapehl(I'll try again though)05:57
naliothWarbo: nobody cares what you use, just what you advise others to use05:57
Warbo!tell arapehl about multiverse05:58
nalioth!repos > arapehl05:58
wastrelWarbo:  i defended you <305:58
naliotharapehl: you have inbound PMs05:58
wooNickGarvey: Damn, at 1500KB download speedI can't complain.05:58
phill64wastrel, you have pms05:58
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Warbonalioth: Well, when sudo doesn;t work but su does then I think I will recommend su for use in chroot in the future05:58
ubuntualright05:58
wastrelphill64:  i'm not seeing any ...05:58
ubuntui'm using the latest liveCD (6.0605:58
naliothWarbo: please do not advise it in here05:58
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ubuntui can't find a valid guide for WPA Supplicant05:58
ubuntuon the wiki..05:58
ubuntui've never used WPA supplicant and so i'm lost.05:58
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ubuntuhelp would be appreciated05:59
NickGarvey!wpa > ubuntu05:59
Warbonalioth: Sorry, you mustn't have been reading the situation. Sudo works in a normal Ubuntu install, but you have to use su in a chroot05:59
moc_candohi malungkot05:59
phill64Wastrel, you really don't see any?05:59
nalioth!patience05:59
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.05:59
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wastrelphill64:  yeah.  are you identified?  this network doesn't allow /msg from users who aren't nickserv identified05:59
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wooI'll try one more time before burning the CD....05:59
wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".05:59
tonyyarussoNickGarvey: If you type 5 things incorrectly it ignores you.05:59
arapehl_nalioth: ??06:00
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ubuntuoopsie06:00
Mike-X2hi all06:00
ubuntuclosed the window by accident06:00
tonyyarussoNickGarvey: Or, if you try to use functions by guessing at how they may work, same thing.06:00
naliotharapehl_: did you get some private messages?06:00
ubuntualright, so anyway06:00
martin__wastrel: :S I'm not sure I've got this right... well, I obviously havent : it's not working....06:00
ubuntui can't find any guide for WPA supplicant06:00
ubuntusomeone sent me a PM and i lost it06:00
moc_candomalungkot06:00
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arapehl_oh06:00
moc_candoasan ka na06:00
Healot!wpa06:00
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs06:00
malungkotandito ako06:00
arapehl_uhm... (/me = noob... )06:00
Hobbsee!wpa > ubuntu06:00
Healot!ph06:00
ubotuJoin #ubuntu-ph for tagalog06:00
naliothmalungkot: english please in #ubuntu06:00
ubuntuHealot: i think i looked there, but it only had a guide fro ubuntu 5.03 or something06:01
Healotdamn tagalog06:01
naliothHealot: be nice06:01
Healotno, just I don't think such channel exist06:01
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naliothHealot: it does. i know a few folks who stay in there06:01
WarboHang on, I came in here 2 hours ago to get my CD writer working, and never got one reply06:01
arapehl_nalioth: actually no... I'm using xchat so I don't know if that's why.06:02
Healot!sa06:02
ubotuI know nothing about sa06:02
naliotharapehl_: no new tabs?06:02
ubuntu<!> These instructions are targeted toward Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy). For Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) see [WWW]  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA, section06:02
ubuntuHealot: ^06:02
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arapehlnalioth: sh*t... wtf... okay, yeah, I've got something here from ubotu (somehow xchat was opened twice... :-/)06:03
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Zenethianoof06:03
WarboOK, I'm going to reboot to plug in my CD writer. When I come back I'd better get some help :)06:04
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martin__wastrel: $EXEC $URI | grep title |\ sed -e :a  -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' |\ sed -e 's/[ \t] *//' |\ sed -e 's/\(.*\)/ \1/' |\ sed -e 's/\.//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ head -n $(($LINES + 3)) |\ tail -n $(($LINES)) |\ perl -e 'while(<>){chomp; print; print "\n";}'06:04
martin__wastrel: am I being stupid?06:04
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nomasteryodagag06:04
wastrelmartin__:  tr -d '\r'   might work too...06:05
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wastrelbut you'll want to put it before th head & tail i think06:05
arapehlalright, I'm about as confused as all get out06:05
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Ubuntuhi06:05
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khnhhi guys,06:06
martin__wastrel: either way, the line produces nothing....06:06
khnhi just install new driver for my wireless card but don't know how to load it06:06
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salluhello06:07
salluhello06:07
Ubuntuhow do i install a theme.... Since when I do install a theme is does not show  up in the theme prefs06:07
wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done". Not totally frozen, because the cursor is blinking, but, it just doesn't go forward...06:07
sallure you there06:07
stephan_1how do i install nvidia06:08
sallui know the solution06:08
stephan_1ok?06:08
salluok06:08
tonyyarusso!nvidia > stephan_106:08
stephan_1!nvidia06:08
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:08
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salluubuntu linux is the best linux ever06:09
khnhhow do you load a new installed driver06:09
sallui don't know06:09
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martin__wastrel: if I run the full command in a terminal, it complains about each command - sed, head, tail, perl etc06:10
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JerryMcFartsi am having a problem.. My brother lost his password to his AIM account, and we got our aim accounts back in the day '94 or so. He can't remember his email that he used to register the account06:10
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JerryMcFartsit there anyway to get his password?06:10
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JerryMcFartsbrutefore is the only thing im thinking of..06:10
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ZenethianHrm06:11
Loopithow do i install a theme.... Since when I do install a theme is does not show  up in the theme prefs06:11
wastrelJerryMcFarts:  did your brother use gaim?06:11
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wastrelmartin__:  i dunno - try starting at the left and adding one at a time...06:12
polishkoopnalioth: thanks a lot, that web site you gave me was very helpful.  I was used to debian's way.06:12
JerryMcFartsnope06:12
dstyrkHi again all.. need some more help.  I was finally was able to burn this iso.. AND get it too boot.. But somewhere in the middle of the booting sequence, after the Unbuntu logo and some of the check steps appear.. The screen goes black and nothing else happens.. What gives?06:12
JerryMcFartswastrel, he used AIM but we just reformated his computer06:12
JerryMcFartswastrel, and he enver had to enter it.. so he forgot it06:13
PORDOhas anyone ever heard of any type of decentralized social networkin system?  sort of like a replacement for myspace, where there is some xml-based way of defining your user profile, and you basically have a user@domain ?06:13
wastrelJerryMcFarts:  i don't suppose you backed up his files.?  it may be in the aim config06:13
JerryMcFartswastrel, nope06:13
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martin__wastrel: sorry, that was the |\ instead of just | .... I wondered why it was |\ in the first place....06:13
efoxls06:13
wastrelno idea...06:13
efoxlol06:13
efoxsorry06:13
efoxwrong box06:13
JerryMcFartswastrel, so bruteforce the only option?06:13
naliothJerryMcFarts: you are off topic in here, sir.06:13
martin__wastrel: anyway - i've still got the bleeding boxes :(06:14
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martin__wastrel: I'll try /r/n06:14
dstyrkAny ideas anyone?06:14
JerryMcFartsnalioth, what do you want from me? im looking for help06:14
wastrelJerryMcFarts:  no idea...06:14
naliothJerryMcFarts: we do not discuss cracking things06:14
wastrelmartin__:  put some output on pastebin06:14
wastrel!pastebin06:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:15
naliothJerryMcFarts: you can email or otw msg aol for your user info06:15
JerryMcFartsnalioth, otw?06:15
wastreldstyrk:  you've got the livecd?06:15
JerryMcFartsnalioth, yea I told him he should call AOL.. lol06:15
naliothJerryMcFarts: otw = otherwise06:15
JerryMcFartsnalioth, sorry :-P06:15
Loopitwhere can I find some really good gnome themes06:15
dstyrkwastrel:  if the desktop ISO is considered the live then yes06:15
JerryMcFartsHave a good day, off to find an answer06:16
martin__wastrel: I dont know how to - sorry, I'm new to this...06:16
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wastrelmartin__:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  - paste your command and the output there and put the URL in the channel here06:17
stephan_1!nvidia06:17
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:17
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wastreldstyrk:  try booting with noacpi in the boot options ...06:17
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wastreler, dstyrk that's noapic06:17
martin__wastrel: Sorry - I meant - I dont know how to show the output. in the terminal there isnt' a problem06:17
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martin__wastrel: it's only when it's displayed on-screen06:18
wastrelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  dstyrk06:18
wastrelmartin__:  which screen?06:18
martin__wastrel: conky outputs to background06:18
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tach00ok the dpkg keeps trying to replace kcemirror and i dont even think its on my system, how do i remove whatever line is causeing package manager to see that06:19
dstyrkwastrel:  I don't know what that is.  I never made it to any options..  It was in the middle of the hardware checks (I think) and then the screen went blank. (black)06:19
efoxi am trying to use CRON to make a frequent backups. I want my backups to be kept in /root. So i became root and modified the crontab yet its not doing the backup06:20
tach00can someone tell me how to edit what dpkg does06:20
Healotwassterl06:20
tach00!pastebin06:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:20
wastreldstyrk:  when you first start up the CD boot process you're going to be in grub, hit escape to enter the grub menu06:21
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efoxmy entry is as follows: * * * * * /root/backups/blah.tar /home/me/folder/06:21
martin__efox: how often do you want the backup to run?06:21
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efoxmartin__:  im just playing around with it now, but the end result would be either twice a day or once a day...but for now, every minute06:22
wastrelmartin__:  ah... i don't know - you may have to pipe the output into a file and run a hexdump...06:22
tach00hello????06:22
dstyrkwastrel:  Ok.. So when I got to the first menu.. I just hit enter.. So should I hit escape or type noacpi?06:22
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wastreldstyrk:  i'm blanking on how to get to the grub command line.  sec06:22
martin__efox: every minute would be */1 * * * *  I believe06:22
wastreldstyrk:  hit c  i think06:23
efoxmartin__: i know this works every minute because as a user it works. but as root i want it to store the files in the /root directory.06:23
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tach00someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692006:23
benplaut_winstupif frikkin floppies :(06:24
efoxmartin__: is the syntax correct  though ? i think thats where my problem may lie06:24
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wubunutuabiHi ... you guys probably get a million of these requests a day but do any of you know of an application that can record music being played through the computer? I  used to use http://www.applian.com/replay-music/index.php?src=RMsite to do it but now that I don't want to use Windows, I was wondering if anyone knew of a replacement?06:24
martin__efox: sorry, I wasn't paying attention06:24
wubunutuabiI hope to use it with my Rhapsody Unlimited subscription06:24
efoxmartin__: lol ok.06:24
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dstyrkwastrel:  I intend on erasing OSX and installing ubuntu in its place if that were to change anything your told me as of now.06:24
proctorhello06:25
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wubunutuabiIdeas?06:25
tach00someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692006:25
eonwubunutuabi: audacity might06:25
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wastreldstyrk:  nope, but i bet there are specific howtos for running ubuntu on mac systems, - i don't know much about mac hardware (well about hardware in generall...)06:25
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martin__efox: as far as I'm aware, you only run a single command in the cron06:26
proctormy wireless mouse messed up when firefox froze in dapper, im fairly new, rebooted and plugged a ps/2 mouse in aswell..neither work06:26
wubunutuabiHmm .... thank you.06:26
eonwubunutuabi: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/06:26
martin__efox: so you would have a script to actually do the job06:26
wubunutuabiDo you think Audacity would automatically split files?06:26
TokenBadanyone have trouble opening their keyboard setup in system/pref?06:26
wubunutuabiI guess it's worth a try eh?06:26
efoxmartin__: so get cron to run the script every so often ?06:26
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WarboOK, my CD drive isn't working. It won't write CDRW discs, it doesn't recognise CDR discs and it thinks data discs are blank. Here is some dmesg after trying to mount a ddata CD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692106:26
dstyrkwastrel:  Ok so I'm going to give this one last shot before I go to bed for the night.. So your telling me to boot from the CD.. Get to the 1st menu, hit C then??06:26
proctorim not sure if there are "cheatcodes" like in knoppix, but i googled the problem and havent had any luck06:26
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tach00someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692006:27
eonwubunutuabi: from what i understand, audacity is the best audio recording for linux, but has a bit to go before its great06:27
swimhey folks06:27
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swimdoes anyone know if I can run aglx+compiz on a legacy nvidia card?06:27
tach00ardour is a professional audio recorder06:27
martin__efox: yes, that's right06:27
tach00a daw06:28
wubunutuabiI have actually used it before for a project where I wanted to mix some things in Windows but never for Linux. I love Ubuntu. I love not pirating things. I feel nice voluntarily giving money to projects.06:28
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efoxmartin__: i can try that. thanks...but...why would it work as a user and not as root ?06:28
wastreldstyrk:  yes, that should bring up the grub command line, then type   linux noapc06:28
krinnshi all06:28
krinnsi am new to kubuntu06:28
tach00someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692006:28
WarboCan anybody help me with my CD drive?06:28
krinnsi have install ltsp on ot its fine06:28
efoxdstyrk: are you having trouble installing ?06:29
dstyrkwastrel:        linux noapc     right?06:29
krinnsnow i have 4 printers for 4 departments06:29
wastrelsec06:29
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martin__efox: sorry- I'm lost. what is working as a user?06:29
dstyrkefox:  Yeah... a bit.06:29
krinnsi want dept1 user cant print from dept2 printer only print from dept 1 printer06:29
krinnsis it possible in kubuntu06:29
Hobbseetach00: that's on dapper, isnt it?06:29
krinnshow?06:29
tach00yes06:29
efoxdstyrk: i dont know if this will help, but when i had troubling installing breezy, i had to use 'linux noapic laipic' i believe it was..06:30
tach00i have had nothing but trouble with it06:30
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davidmccabeMy apologies if this is in the faq; I don't have a web browser up and running. I am upgrading to dapper, and scrollkeeper-update segfaults each time it is run, thus interfering with the update.06:30
wastreldstyrk:  sry yes   noapic06:30
Hobbseetach00: good @ the dapper bit06:30
davidmccabeAny ideas on that? Thanks much!06:30
efoxdstyrk: gimme a second to confirm the command, but after i did that, it went thru the installation without too much trouble06:30
WarboAnybody? CD drive?06:30
wastrelefox:  was that on mac ?06:30
tach00Hobbsee: what do you mean06:30
efoxwastrel: no. pc06:30
wastrelwell it's something to try regardless :] 06:31
Hobbseetach00: i dont know how to fix that, but you'd probably get away with using the edgy deb of that? actually, i could probably build you a dapper one06:31
Hobbseehmmm06:31
efoxwastrel: ya, thats why i said it may or may not help.06:31
dstyrkefox:  Ok... I am going to give it one more shot tonight and then I'm off to bed.. Have to do real work tomorrow... For money you know.. lol06:31
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efoxdstyrk: before you do so06:31
wooAnyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".06:32
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tach00hmmm. i really did not mean to install kcemirror, however because of the error, i can't uninstall it or anything else for that matter06:32
swimdoes anyone know if I can run aglx+compiz on a legacy nvidia card?06:32
efoxdstyrk: i think its f2 to give you a list of commands u can use to start linux with...find the one that is smiliar to laipic, and use that. im unsure if THAT is the exact command.06:32
efoxdstyrk: hope it helps...06:32
tach00i have heard about this edgy, is it better than dapper?06:32
wastreledgy is experimental right now06:33
dstyrkefox:  Thanks... If it all works tonight I'll be back to let you know.. Thanks for the help this far.06:33
Warboedgy is no where near ready for desktop use06:33
tach00got ya06:33
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tach00apearently neither is dapper lol06:33
nomasteryodahhe06:33
dzusyou can still test it out06:33
nomasteryodamy dapper works perfectly06:33
tach00everytime i try to dp anything i get errors06:33
efoxmartin__:  my username is efox. as efox, i added to my cron    * * * * * ~/backups/blah.tar /documents06:33
nomasteryodayou installed something that broke it06:33
tach00i wish mine did yoad, i like what they are trying to do06:33
Healot!wonderful world of disneyland06:34
ubotuI know nothing about wonderful world of disneyland06:34
swim...06:34
efoxmartin__:  this made a tar of documents in my backups folder06:34
tach00i know, now i just have to figure out how to undo it lol06:34
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wastreltach00:  did you try \06:34
nomasteryodatach00, if you choose the default install and just install stuff you really need06:34
nomasteryodait works06:34
nomasteryodavery good06:34
wastreler, using -f to force install?06:34
WarboPLEASE can I have some help with my CD drive?06:34
efoxmartin__: however, if i am root and do the SAME thing, except im keeping the tar in the /root directory, it does not work06:34
NickGarveyWarbo: what was your question?06:34
efoxmartin__: thats what i meant by it06:34
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tach00yes and yes, then i got a little carried away with package manager and now this06:35
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NickGarveyWarbo: wow you really broke it06:35
WarboMy CD drive spits out corrupt CDRWs, it doesn't een recognise that CDRs are inserted and it thinks data CDs are blank and opens the CD writer window06:35
wastrelefox:  i don't understand what command that line is running06:35
NickGarveyWarbo: try knoppix?06:35
efoxwastrel: the laipac thing ?06:35
nomasteryodatach00, see06:35
WarboNickGarvey: I have booted DSL and I get the same stuff06:35
nomasteryodayou just have to be careful06:35
NickGarveyWarbo: hardware then, #hardware06:35
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nomasteryodayou can start over06:36
nomasteryodait's not too painful06:36
wastrelefox:  that cron line06:36
martin__efox: sorry, I have no idea then...06:36
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efoxmartin__: no worries06:36
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efoxwastrel:  the cron line works as a user, but not as root. what dont you get ?06:36
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tach00Yoda: i never claimed to know what i was doing, just trying to learn as i go, i think i am doing well as to only have used any type of linux for a week06:36
wastrelwhat's DSL?06:37
efoxwastrel: maybe my terminolgy is wrong, i dont know06:37
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efoxDigital line subscriber ?06:37
wastrelefox:  that cron line just has 2 filenames (?)06:37
wastrelnot that one :] 06:37
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nomasteryodatach00, yes you are... lesson lea4rned... reinstall06:37
nomasteryoda=D06:37
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nomasteryodai have a ppc iMac i'm still fighting06:37
wastreldon't reinstall for a broken .deb06:37
nomasteryodabut I want Kubuntu on it ... period06:37
nomasteryodawastrel, i know... i try to fix them too06:38
col-panici had one too06:38
nomasteryodabut sometimes i have to give and cry uncle06:38
tach00lol i guess your right yoda, i was just trying to fix the problem before going there, because if i can fix it, i can learn from it06:38
col-panicG3 with hoary06:38
efoxwastrel: OMG06:38
nomasteryodatach00, you may fix06:38
efoxwastrel: genius06:38
efoxwastrel: thats my problem06:38
efoxwastrel:  i forgot the tar -cvf06:39
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tach00it may cause me gray hair too yoda06:39
wastrelheh :] 06:39
nomasteryodagray hair, i have06:39
nomasteryoda=D06:39
nomasteryodawell, just the sides06:39
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tach00gray hair, im gonna have after 2 weeks of this lol, but still better than windows, just have to learn how to think linux... NEVER know i was a windows guru06:40
alihi i was uninstalling squid from my pc but now it give error it is not fully installed06:40
aliand i cannot reinstall it06:40
aliwhat should i do ?06:40
tach00Yoda how do i stop dpkg from trying to replace a file i didnt' tell it to replace06:41
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skrummmi have no wine config file. anyone know of a place where i could download the default?06:42
tach00there has to be a file telling it to do that somewhere06:42
^catalysthi eveerybody ?06:42
nomasteryodagrrrrr06:42
skrummmi would think so06:42
nomasteryodathis is nuts06:42
skrummmit's not in ~/.wine/config06:42
nomasteryodais there a rescue mode for ppc ubuntu?06:42
efoxhey ^catalyst06:42
nomasteryodaI need to reset the password06:42
wastrelskrummm:  /usr/share/doc/wine  ?06:42
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skrummmthere's no /wine in /share/doc06:43
skrummm:(06:43
mooseman447hey06:43
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tach00surely someone has the answer to this question: what file tells dpkg what to do, like replace a specific package06:45
wooOk, now, when I try to use the alternate Install CD for dapper, it gives me an error saying "Loading Components from CD Failed", and Ideas?06:45
wastrelnomasteryoda:  there should be... it's just a boot flag in grub.conf06:45
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wastrelnomasteryoda:  heh nvm no grub on ppc eh ?06:45
mooseman447woo did you try to reburn the disc?06:45
skrummmwoo: check the cd rather than boot from it06:45
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woomooseman447: Yes06:45
mooseman447check the iso file with the md5hash to make sure you got a good download06:46
efoxwhat happens if you have more ram than your swap ?06:46
skrummmwoo: re-download the .iso06:46
^catalystnothing out of the ordinary efox06:46
efox^catalyst: poorer performance ?06:46
aliupdate-rc.d: /etc/init.d/squid: file does not exist "how to get it back " ?????????06:46
wooskrummm: I have.06:46
^catalystI don't imagine it'd make any difference?06:46
wooskrummm: I've tried the live cd install, and the alternate.06:46
wooBoth fail06:46
skrummmwoo: hmm06:47
^catalysti've got 2GB of ram and run a 256mb swap06:47
dooglustach00: the .deb file06:47
wooMultiple cd's/iso's06:47
mooseman447woo did you check the iso with the md5?06:47
woomooseman447: No... how?06:47
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tach00dooglus: you know when it says "reading database......." where is that06:47
dli^catalyst, if you are not running a server, maybe, you can disable swap :)06:47
dooglustach00: the .deb file contains scripts which get extracted into /var/lib/dpkg/info/06:47
tach00GREAT thank you06:47
nomasteryodayea06:48
skrummmdoes anyone know of a place where i can get the default wine config file, or the documentation?06:48
nomasteryodai got it now06:48
mooseman447woo under windows i use http://www.md5summer.org/ to verify06:48
nomasteryodawhew06:48
woomooseman447: I'm on my laptop running Ubuntu06:48
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efox^catalyst: so why is it recommended to have swap be twice the ram size ?06:49
^catalystI have no idea.06:49
wastrelif you want to suspend to disk06:49
^catalystI'm not really a linux person, I'm more windows based.06:49
dliefox, 2*ram is the old suggestion, outdated06:49
wastrelyou need enough swap to hold all the contents of your ram06:49
^catalystbut wastrel raises a good point.06:49
mooseman447woo hang on i have a nautilus script that verify's and generates md5's for me let me see what it does06:49
whitynzIsn'tOk someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have write access to this partition: /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 and I do not have write access to this partition: /dev/sdc1/media/sdc1/vfatdefaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 106:49
whitynz-isn't06:50
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woo:-/06:50
mllrIs gentoo as easy to use as ubuntu?06:50
efoxwastrel: oic but is that only for if you suspend/hibernate ?06:50
mooseman447woo do you have the md5 hash?06:50
efoxmllr: i tried gentoo...i couldnt even get it installed.06:50
dooglustach00: I guess the database is the files in /var/lib/dpkg/06:50
dooglustach00: what are you wanting to do?06:50
woomooseman447: No, how do I get it?06:50
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wastrelmllr:  gentoo is more difficult06:51
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wastrelmllr:  it is well documented but requires a good working knowledge of your computer hardware and the linux command line06:51
ScottNailon.06:51
efoxi think ubuntu is a really good distro...its faily easy to install and there is good support for it and such06:51
tach00dooglus: read this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920, it keeps trying to install this package, wont let me install or remove anything because of this06:51
mooseman447woo every mirror has a copy of the list in it like here http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS06:51
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mllrUbuntu was my first switch to Linux so I think overall I'd be a little lost.06:52
ScottNailonhey guys, I have an old 800 MHz PC here with Win ME, can you guys tell me a way of installing UBUNTU on it? it seems not to load from the normal CROM . . :(06:52
woomooseman447: Oh, it's umm b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e then06:52
dooglustach00: OK, reading...06:52
skrummm fox, maybe you know: where's the wine config file, or is there a default directory for that sort of thing?06:52
mooseman447you have the alternate?06:52
dlimllr, if you have no previous linux experience, ubuntu is a great starting point, however, that doesn't make gentoo difficult06:52
woomooseman447: Yeah06:52
hawkaloogieScottNailon, is your BIOS configured to boot from a CD?06:52
dooglustach00: that'll be an error in the postrm script I guess06:53
woomooseman447: I tried the Live CD installation first, that didn't work either.06:53
mooseman447woo do you have md5sum?06:53
efoxcould someone give me a keyword to google or a program name that will allow me to upload a folder or file to some server or ftp or something ?06:53
efoxi would like to store my backups remotely as well as on the current computer as well06:53
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ScottNailonhawkaloogie - yeah of course, I am booting to the cd, and trying to load the OS from CDROM install but it just doesnt load up....06:53
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tach00dooglus: trying to open that directory but its freezing, i think there are too many files in it lol 11084 to be exact06:53
skrummmfox: gftp06:53
ScottNailonxftp06:53
woomooseman447: Yeah06:54
dooglustach00: dapper or edgy?06:54
tach00where do i find that script?06:54
wastrelefox:  scp06:54
tach00dapper06:54
efoxwastrel: ill look into it thanks06:54
dooglustach00: use a shell.  there aren't really any good filebrowsers yet06:54
efoxas well as xftp and gftp06:54
mllrdli: does gentoo have an easy way to compile/install stuff.. Like.. sudo apt-get whatever?06:54
ScottNailonhawkaloogie - any other ideas ?06:54
mooseman447woo somehow you need to use that i think you should make a text file with a line b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e  ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso and do md5sum -c and the that text file06:54
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ScottNailonI just wanna kill WINME and install Linux.... :(06:54
martin__wastrel: back again... hex show 0D 0A at the end... could you repost your perl solution please? I've managed to lose it past undo history06:55
efoxmllr: they do. our apt-get is their emerge06:55
Madpilotmllr, there's a #gentoo channel - might get better info there06:55
NickGarveyscarn: not letting you?06:55
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phill64Hello, I'm trying to run the install script that is on the ShipIt cd, but unfortunately, I'm unable to see the "Next" button on the install, my screen resolution is messed up same with the refresh rate.06:55
hawkaloogieScottNailon, "just doesn't work" doesn't help, what happens exactly?06:55
dlimllr, I think gentoo handles packages elegantly, an order better than apt, I do use debian and gentoo06:55
efoxmllr: are you new to linux ?06:55
NickGarveyscarm: sorry, I am used to a different kind of tab completion :)06:55
tach00dooglus: WOW thats a lot of stuff in that dir06:55
martin__wastrel: I think I should be able to sed that out, but I dont know how to06:55
tach00shelled there now06:55
wastrelgentoo is off topic for this channel ... :] 06:55
jon_how do i find out my root password06:56
mllrefox: Not all too new.06:56
NickGarvey!root > jon_06:56
Madpilotjon_, there isn't one06:56
dooglustach00: yeah, a few files per package you have installed06:56
jon_?06:56
mllrefox: I've used it at work, and a little at home for the past few years06:56
Madpilotjon_, see the PM the bot just sent you06:56
ScottNailonhawkaloogie - it just goes to load up Xwindows to boot but doesnt get far past that screen.... I am running a Maxrox Millenium Video card, dont know if thats a prob...06:56
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mllrefox: Just looking for something new, overall I've lost all hope in Windoze and need a new fix.06:56
ScottNailonhawkaloogie - It seems to halt and load forever on Xwindows06:57
dooglustach00: look at the kcemirror.postinst file06:57
jon_thanks06:57
wastrelmartin__:  perl -e 'while(<>){chomp;print;print "\n"}'   but it's sooooo ugly.   tr -d '\r'  may work.06:57
hawkaloogieScottNailon, so it IS installed, but X isn't working06:57
efoxmllr: ok.  good luck with gentoo. it was the distro i wanted at first because it was the first linux distro i actually saw..and it was gentoo that actually pushed me away further from linux simply because it was very difficult to install06:57
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mllrefox: I've been playing with the newest Vista beta, and I'm not very pumped to see what Micro$oft is going to put out in the next few months06:57
dlimllr, windows is hopeless :) I understand06:57
dooglustach00: it's this line that's failing: "touch -m /usr/share/icons/hicolor"06:57
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ScottNailonhawkaloogie - no it is booting from CDROM to the CDROM version but wont boot INTO X at all :(06:57
efoxmllr:  and i was gettin frustrated. But since i heard so many good things bout linux, i started jumpin from distro to distro and found ubuntu which is what i like (considering im also very new at it)06:58
hawkaloogieScottNailon, so you're using the live cd?06:58
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efoxmllr:  ya im not too eager to my hands on vista.06:58
ScottNailonyes yes yes06:58
ScottNailoncorrect. sorry I forgot to say that!06:58
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Nightafter what i saw at CES ....... vista scares me06:58
Night...06:58
woomooseman447: Comes back OK.06:58
phill64Get someone who knows Gentoo, then set up an SSH install.06:58
mooseman447woo hmm ok06:59
tach00dooglus: forgive my newbie-ness but how do i edit that file06:59
dlimllr, if you want a production box, I suggest you to go debian, great documentation, and the current dapper ubuntu is buggy06:59
ScottNailonhawkaloogie - is there a way I can just start an install from Windows which will FORCE itself onto this pc? and can you install it onto a FAT32 partition?06:59
dooglustach00: do you need to?06:59
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woomooseman447: I'm about to give up on Linux.06:59
Nightwhy?07:00
mooseman447woo how fast did you burn it and how fast is the drive trying to read it i know that sounds weird but my old system wouldnt boot off a cd a while ago because it read to slow07:00
efoxi dont know too much bout OS, ive learned alot from playin around with linux but it seems that vista is just more aestically pleasing. HOWEVER, they do have something i think is interesting. You can use flash drive as additional ram or something like that. i thought that was cool07:00
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dooglustach00: if you want to view is, just use "less kcemirror.postinst"07:00
wooNight: Me?07:00
tach00well its there, i am sure that you know what your doing lol, cause i sure dont, but what youve said makes sense to me07:00
mllrWell maybe I'll give a few distro's the old college try, overall thanks for your help. :)07:00
hawkaloogieScottNailon, iirc the live CD doesn't install. you need an install CD. you can probably install to a fat32 partition, but it'll be ugly07:00
mooseman447efox its a cool idea but it would probably be the slowest ram ever07:00
dooglustach00: the file is owned by root, so if you want to edit it you need to run the editor as root07:00
ubuntuGuys i need help. Im an accessing via terminal and irssi. I borked my grub and need to install it (i am on live cd)07:01
ScottNailonhawkaloogie - what do you mean by ugly? and why wont the LIVE cd work?07:01
ubuntuhow can i reinstall grub07:01
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ubuntuvia the live cd to my installation07:01
dooglusubuntu: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub" ?07:01
efoxmooseman447: lol07:01
dooglusubuntu: chroot to your real root partition first07:01
ruxpinubuntu: 'grub'07:01
tach00dooglus: this is what it says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692207:01
dlimllr, don't try redhat, at least, it sucks :)07:02
ruxpinubuntu: root (hdx,y)07:02
mooseman447efox its true the speed of a usb bus is waaaayyyy slower then any ram slot07:02
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ruxpinubuntu: setup (hdx)07:02
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mllrdli: thanks for the heads up.07:02
ruxpinubuntu: quit07:02
ajax4!xgl07:02
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:02
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hawkaloogieScottNailon, ugly as in the opposite of pretty, and i don't know.07:02
ubuntui have no idea how to do that .. can someone guide me here07:02
ScottNailonhmmm ok07:02
mllrdli: how does xgl run in ubuntu? Buggy? Or is it smooth.07:02
dooglustach00: I have a copy here.  you don't have a /usr/share/icons/hicolor directory?07:02
efoxmooseman447: wat does usb max out at ?07:03
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dlimllr, xgl itself is not stable yet, so, you should wait for production boxes, for testing, you can always do it, but preferred in gentoo07:03
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mllrI've been reading a ton, and Google'n my butt off, but overall it's nice to chat with people for a few minutes and get REAL feedback.07:03
mooseman447efox from the wiki     * A Low Speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (183 KiB/s) that is mostly used for Human Interface Devices (HID) such as keyboards, mouse and joysticks.07:03
mooseman447    * A Full Speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (1.4 MiB/s). Full Speed was the fastest rate before the USB 2.0 specification and many devices fall back to Full Speed. Full Speed devices divide the USB bandwidth between them in a first-come first-served basis and it is not uncommon to run out of bandwidth with several isochronous devices. All USB Hubs support Full Speed.07:03
mooseman447    * A Hi-Speed rate of 480 Mbit/s (57 MiB/s).07:03
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skrummmis there a way to repartition a drive if i'm already using it?07:04
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efoxmooseman447: boooo07:04
mooseman447efox what?07:04
sktx'ello all...07:04
wastrelskrummm:  gparted can non-destructively partition07:04
tach00dooglus: yes i have that directory07:04
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tach00dont understand the connection tho07:05
wastrelskrummm:  but make backups first - it may zap the partition table...07:05
dliwastrel, but not live on mounted ones :(07:05
wastrelwell no07:05
reXincan anybody give me some help with EFI support?07:05
skrummmwastrel: do i need to install it, or is it with the standard distro?07:05
mllrAlright, well thank all you guys/gals for your time. Sorry to bust into your channel, and start asking twenty questions, but this quick chat helped a lot. Thanks again. :)07:05
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sktxthe only time i've ever had trouble with gparted almost borking a partition was this last install07:05
dooglustach00: hmmm07:05
sktxwhen i was installing dapper07:05
wastrelskrummm:  you would need to boot from a CD07:05
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wastrelskrummm:  you can't repartion a drive you're using as the boot disk07:05
skrummmwastrel: ah, makes sense07:06
skrummmwastrel: lol, should have thought of that07:06
dooglustach00: my bad.  it's the uninstall that fails.  so look at the .postrm file, not .postinst07:06
skrummmwastrel: but it's on the cd, right?07:06
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jon_how do i login as root? I enabled the root account07:06
bulldog_does anyone know why some programs dissappear from program menu in Dapper?07:06
dooglustach00: there's this: "[ -d /usr/share/icons/hicolor ]  && touch -m #ICONDIR# || true"07:06
dooglusthe #ICONDIR# is an error07:06
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wastrelskrummm:  i think so, i only used the default installer tho - not sure what alls on there07:06
sktxbulldog_, under what circumstances?07:06
ubuntuis there anything i can do to reinstall grub? anything simple? or is reinstalling Ubuntu the easiest way?07:06
skrummmwastrel: gparted?07:07
skrummmwastrel: alright07:07
tach00nothing to do with touch07:07
dooglustach00: if you wait a minute I'll tell you a command to run that will fix this07:07
wastrelubuntu:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:07
tach00AWSOME07:07
wastrelgparted07:07
Madpilotjon_, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo? It talks about logging in as root - and why it's a bad idea...07:07
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efoxmooseman447: i said boo for the speed of HID devices07:07
mooseman447efox ah ok sorry its getting a late and im beginning to fall asleep07:08
jon_oh...my bad. nm07:08
efoxmooseman447: =)07:08
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dooglustach00: run this: sudo sed -i 's!#ICONDIR#!/usr/share/icons/hicolor!' /var/lib/dpkg/info/kcemirror.postrm07:09
dooglustach00: it should all be on one line07:09
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wweasel!grub07:09
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ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto07:09
tach00ok07:09
dooglustach00: that should edit the .postrm file - check that it has07:10
uubuntui have by mistake deleted the init.d/squid can any show me where to get it back ?07:10
uubuntui tried reinstalling but doesnt work07:10
efoxif i have breezy can i just install dapper over it, or do i have to go through some special procedure to upgrade07:10
tach00dooglus: OH, you ARE the man, i think you fixed it07:10
dooglustach00: I'm just *A* man :)07:11
uubuntuefox you can07:11
sktxanyone else have any trouble getting onto DALnet?07:11
efoxuubuntu: sweeet07:11
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uubuntujust change the sources.list07:11
Cornellius!eggdrop07:11
ubotuI know nothing about eggdrop07:11
uubuntuall words to dapper07:11
uubuntucomment the cd07:11
mooseman447!ups07:11
ubotuI know nothing about ups07:11
freakcodehi guys07:11
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uubuntuapt-get upgrade07:11
freakcodecan help me with weird nvidia module install?07:11
tach00Whatever dude, i have been here all day off an on and no one has known that simple fix, thank you SO much07:11
jerryhi07:11
jerryI have a question07:12
uubuntuand apt-get -y dist-upgrade07:12
efoxuubuntu: i have a CD. Can I pop that in ? My internet is rather slow and if i can id much rather do it from CD07:12
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dooglustach00: I raised a bug for it: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcemirror/+bug/5148407:12
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uubuntuefox, you can try but you have to put the rite name in the cdrom coloumn ;)07:12
Cornelliusjerry: Don't ask to ask, just ask. If someone can help, he will.07:12
jerryI'm trying to run an eggdrop but it says while executing "! /home/jerry/eggdrop (file "eggdrop.conf" line 1) * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)07:13
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jerryhow do I get kubuntu to upgrade every night automatically?07:14
^catalysthowto identify bus location of gfx card ?07:14
efoxuubuntu: i think an easier fix is just to reformat all my ext3 drives and then just install fresh from cd ? What do you think ?07:14
freakcodeanyone got errors installing nvidia-glx on dapper, from the repositories???07:14
ubuntuon breezy there was a way to go to the menu on the install cd.. how can i go to that menu on dapper to reinstall grub07:14
ubuntuanyone have any idea?07:14
tach00dooglus: not that i could but if i ever get smart enough to return the favor, i will07:14
freakcodeafter i do that, and "nvidia-xconfig", X simply dont starts with module "nvidia"07:14
mooseman447anybody know a ubuntu program like windirstat?07:14
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freakcodehe complains about "no nvidia.ko found"... ok but what package provides it?07:14
dooglustach00: you've helped by bringing the bug to my attention07:15
dlifreakcode, you followed the nvidia howto?07:15
^catalystfreakcode: i had problems getting it to install07:15
wastrelthank you, no thank YOU07:15
freakcodewhich one? lol07:15
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^catalystwhat error are you getting?07:15
bjvif i install a .deb, then delete the .deb   would i have difficulty removing the software at a later date?07:15
dli!tell freakcode about nvidia07:15
^catalystyour doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx yeah ?07:16
tach00i have another bug if you want to tackle it lol07:16
bjvthe install information should be recorded in the dpkg/apt database, right?07:16
freakcode^catalyst, yeah... after that, i edit xorg.conf to "nvidia"... and then "no nvidia.ko found"07:16
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dooglustach00: go on then07:16
dlifreakcode, you should " sudo modprobe nvidia "07:16
^catalystare you running the config enable line?07:17
^catalystI'll get you a link07:17
dooglusbjv: you don't need to keep .deb files after installation.07:17
tach00well it started about the same time as the other one, might have even fixed it i dont know but, sometimes its like someone is holding the ENTER key down,07:17
tach00every thing just goes crazy07:17
freakcodedli, hmmm modprobe... i was looking in the /modules dir and no nvidia.ko found07:17
bjvdooglus: i did not believe so.07:17
freakcodedli, but i guess youre right :P07:17
dooglusbjv: that's like keeping the installation .exe in windows - there's no need unless you want to reinstall at a later data without redownloading07:17
freakcode^catalyst, show me07:17
^catalysthttps://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html07:17
[lnx] elvisaueuHAUheauehua.. magavilha, magavilha..07:17
bjvim trying to remove a copy of wine, there is no record of it being installed in dpkg07:17
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bjvi must not have used a .deb, then07:18
bjv:(07:18
dlifreakcode, read the howto! if you want the nvidia driver, the howto is your holy bible07:18
mooseman447how can you use wget to download a whole site?07:18
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tach00also the mouse clicks wht ever it hovers over with out pressing the button when this happens07:18
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dlimoonlite, wget -r , " man wget "07:18
dooglustach00: I've seen problems with the keyboard before.  usually just pressing whichever key the system thinks is stuck down fixes it.07:18
dlimooseman447, wget -r , " man wget "07:18
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mooseman447dli man wget?07:18
freakcodedli, can you provide me the link? i should, for now, seen at least ten "how-to"s07:18
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tach00i found that if i press the ESC key it stops it, but what causes that07:18
dli!nvidia07:18
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:19
dooglustach00: I think the system saw you press the enter key but didn't notice you release it, so it thinks it must still be pressed.  if you press it again it will hopefully see you press and release it.07:19
nathanaelI tried installing xgl on dapper, but got a no display error when I logged in07:19
^catalystfreakcode:  use the link I have you07:19
freakcode^catalyst, ok thx07:19
^catalysttip, COPY AND PASTE the code examples07:19
dooglustach00: I don't know.  I've not seen it with the enter key- usually it's alt or control for me07:19
tach00thats wierd07:19
nathanaelany ideas?07:19
nathanaelFollowed this guide: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=38907:20
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tach00you know what, come to think of it, it started when i was using gaim, and i pressed ALT-G trying to beep a friend like with yahoo messenger, been doing it ever since07:20
exileMay I ask I question about a problem I have?07:20
nathanael!xgl07:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:20
wastrelexile you may.07:20
tach00dont guess there is a fix for that huh?07:21
exilewastrel, I have just tried to boot up the Live/Install CD for Ubuntu 6.06 x64 and everything boots up fine, but my mouse does not respong; cursor doesn't move. Any ideas?07:21
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dooglustach00: don't know of one07:22
mooseman447dli will that also download all the images on the pages07:22
wastrelexile:  not really... have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?07:22
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tach00something for the dapper engineers to work on i guess07:22
dlimooseman447, I suppose so07:22
dlimooseman447, man wget07:23
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exilewastrel: yes it is USB but I have also tried the USB to PS/2 adapter and had no luck.07:23
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arapehlson of a @#$! it worked!07:23
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arapehlsheeeesh07:23
soaperhey, um, quick question... is there any way to make a keyboard shortcut to copy text from konsole, or just a console/terminal/shell in general?07:24
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soaperanyone?07:24
jrleekSorry, I don't know.  I've always just used shift+ctrl+c07:25
dlisoaper, for example? what do you want to do?07:25
exilesoaper: give the smart ones some time07:25
wweaselHey all. I just installed Windows and am trying to restore grub following the wiki page.  The first step is "When the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with boot: prompt, type rescue. Where is the boot: prompt?07:25
wastrelsoaper:  control-insert ?07:25
soaperfor example... oh, lemme try07:25
soapernope.07:25
dliwweasel, in grub, before kernel loads07:26
uuubuntui have by mistake deleted the init.d/squid can any show me where to get it back ?07:26
soaperJust, like, for example, trying to copy singular options of a help page one at a time...07:26
bjvman.. i have zero available blocks on my / fs, yet apt-get is still finishing the dist-upgrade07:26
dliuuubuntu, backup your squid.conf, sudo dpkg --purge squid07:26
jrleekHighlight, copy?07:26
dliuuubuntu, and reinstall squid after that07:27
bjvext2 is magic.07:27
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wweaseldli: before kernel loads? huh?07:27
uuubuntuthanks dli07:27
jrleeksoaper:  highlight, then you can paste with the middle mouse button07:27
^catalystcan i restart ALSA without rebooting ?07:27
exilewastrel: yes i tried that and it is USB but I have also tried the USB to PS/2 adapter and had no luck.07:27
soaperyeah, but it's a lot of trouble working the mouse all the time... and plus, y'know, that's only in console...07:27
bjvapparently i have 1k blocks that are fine to write in, but not flagged as 'available'07:27
bjvand that is what is keeping my dist-upgrade from failing. o_O07:27
soaperlemme try that out jrleek07:27
wastrelexile:  i don't know- never had mouse trouble with the livecd myself...07:27
dli^catalyst, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart07:27
soaperawesome... thanks!07:27
^catalystcheers dli07:28
wweaseldli: I put in the install cd and I get the splash page, where it asks if I want to install, memtest, boot first hd, etc.07:28
jrleeksoaper: If that's a pain, shift+ctrl+C also works.07:28
^catalystis there a key combination to open a new terminal ?07:28
soaperI tried that... but it doesn't for me :p07:28
dliwweasel, you can boot your first hd :) if it's your ubuntu installation07:28
wastrel^catalyst:  you can set one in gnome at least.  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts07:28
efoxwastrel: i looked up scp, however reading a few sites, it doesnt specify what port it uses07:28
exilewastrel: I will try to boot again and I will return and tell you if it works or not07:28
wastrelefox:  it's the ssh port, 2207:29
dli^catalyst, you can make one07:29
jrleeksoaper: really?  Huh.  KDE or Gnome?07:29
soaperKDE... using Konsole.07:29
efoxwastrel: gotcha. which can also be changed if need be correct ?07:29
soaperI'm using it from IceWM right now, but I don't think it would be any different in the original environment.07:29
jrleeksoaper: That could be it, I'm in Gnome.  Never used KDE much.07:29
soaperoh, kay.07:29
dli^catalyst, run: gconf-editor , go to apps -> metacity07:30
wastrelefox:  the remote server would need be listening on the different port.  but yes.07:30
^catalystI'll be knackered if I can get any sound out via digital-out07:30
wweaseldli: You misunderstand me.  I just installed Windows, it wrote over Grub obviously. I am following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - I don't understand the second one.07:30
efoxwastrel:  thanks man07:30
dliwweasel, yes, your ubuntu doesn't load anymore, so, you can boot your first hd from a ubuntu cd07:30
jrleekwastrel: Thanks07:31
wastrelnp np07:31
wweaselOk, yeah, that will boot my Windows partition, no?07:31
dliwweasel, then, don't do that07:31
PORDOthis is so off-topic, but seriously...to any of you who have ever wished social networking, like myspace and friendster, could be decentralized, i just found the sickest thing i've discovered on the net in months: http://videntity.org/edit07:31
CrazyDoodeOP07:31
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dliwweasel, do you have a ubuntu livecd ? or any livecd07:31
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wweaseldli: I don't think you know what I am talking about.07:31
doogluswweasel: which step of that web page don't you understand?07:32
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dliwweasel, sorry for disturbing07:32
wweaseldooglus: "When the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with the boot: prompt, type in rescue and press enter."07:32
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jisatsuhas anyone ever gotten World of Warcraft running under Ubuntu?07:32
jrleekHonestly, when I set up dual boot systems, I do it with two totally seperate hard drives, one at a time.  Makes it much easier and more robust, although you have to modify grub.conf yourself.07:32
wweaseldli: No problem! You have no need to apologize, I greatly appreciate that you are tryign to help.07:32
wweaseljrleek: laptop :P07:32
^catalystok, ubuntu uses ALSA by default yeah?07:32
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dli^catalyst, yes07:33
soaperPORDO: that's a really cool site... darn...07:33
^catalysthrmm07:33
FunnyLookinHatI'm surprised the LiveCD doesn't have an option to "Recover GRUB" after a windows install07:33
dli^catalyst, I think esd also07:33
soapergotta bookmark that.07:33
wweaseldooglus: It's the second point on the website.07:33
doogluswweasel: the instructions are out of date I guess.  They're talking about the old-stye install CD, not the live CD07:33
^catalystthe guide I have to make SPDIF works thru ALSA is for OPTICAL, I use coax...07:33
doogluswweasel: do you have a breezy install disk, or a dapper alternate disk?07:33
dliFunnyLookinHat, because you'd better handle it manually at rescuing07:33
jisatsuok, better question. Would using the 64 bit version of Ubuntu affect my ability to run Wine/Cedega?07:33
wweaselaha.07:33
wweaseldooglus: Yes, a breezy install disc in my basement.07:34
doogluswweasel: try that.07:34
FunnyLookinHatdli, considering the fact that you run most of the same steps and you just have to select which partitions are which, I'd say automating it would be fairly safe...albeit risky in some cases07:34
drjeckel655Hey how would i go about installing flash player on ubuntu 64?07:34
wweaseldooglus: thanks alot.07:34
dliFunnyLookinHat, I agree they should make a wizard to guide n00bs through, however, just a few steps :(07:34
FunnyLookinHat!flash07:34
soaperjisatsu asks the hard questions...07:34
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:34
doogluswweasel: wait07:34
wweaseldli: thank you too, I appreciate it.07:34
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jisatsusoaper: :P07:34
FunnyLookinHatdli, ubuntu is for noobs and |337 alike...  : )07:35
wweaseldooglus: yes07:35
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doogluswweasel: if you scroll down a bit on the same page, there are instructions for using a live CD07:35
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dliFunnyLookinHat, no, the installer knows your disk, because it already asked you, a livecd doesn't :(07:35
jon___how do i change filesystem permissions? I am logged in as root07:35
gore_whats the best gui ftp client software for ubuntu?07:35
uuubuntuthanks dli07:35
dooglusjon___: "chmod"07:35
wweaseldooglus: which one should I follow? the one "while preserving" or not?07:36
uuubuntudli, it worked07:36
jisatsudoes anyone here personally play WoW?07:36
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dlijon___, do you mean like ntfs? otherwise, you should use permissions from fs07:36
uuubuntudli, one more question man07:36
Minsc37Hello07:36
jrleekdooglus: I think he means on a whole filesystem07:36
wastreli stopped playing WoW07:36
jisatsuwastrel: did you ever play it under Linux?07:36
gore_only way to play wow in linux is through wine right?07:36
jon___I don't know, I want to be able to have write permissions07:36
dliuuubuntu, that's a stupid way :( but I forget the smart way, somebody tought me, and I forgot07:36
soaperjinsatsu, there's an answer on the site about wine emulating win64-bit applications... but I don't think that's what you want.07:36
soaperWin64 support would allow Wine to run native Windows 64-bit executables, and as of February 2006, Wine does not yet have this support. That's okay, since there are very few commercially available Win64 applications. One exception, Unreal Tournament 2004, is available in a native Linux 64-bit version, so nobody (except maybe a Wine hacker) should want to run the Windows version anyway.07:36
sktxis there anyone present who knows a little bit more about networking than i do?  i can't seem to connect to dalnet.. i'm wondering if someone could interpret a traceroute output for me07:36
jrleekI have the same filesystem problem, I automount a Fat32 drive, but I can't get write permissions as a user07:36
uuubuntudli, do you have experience with squid ?07:36
wastreljisatsu:  if i could do that i would still be playing WoW07:36
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doogluswweasel: I don't know, sorry.07:37
jisatsuwastrel: ah, ok ^^07:37
gore_anyone know of a good gui ftp client?07:37
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wastreljisatsu:  i need to upgrade first :] 07:37
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wastrelgore_:  i like gftp07:37
dooglusjrleek: chmod -R then?07:37
dliuuubuntu, somewhat, and probably the stupid ways07:37
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gore_perfect wastrel07:37
jisatsuI think cedega supports it, but I haven't yet tried it personally, I'm gonna give it a go in a minute07:37
gore_=P07:37
gore_just looking for the name of it07:37
dooglusjrleek: I don't think it's a very good idea though07:37
stephan__whats the command to make a .dir and all its files and .dir to get write access07:37
uuubuntudli, i have only one problem i cannot connect to my pop.servername.com07:37
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jrleekdooglus: That and I think it would go away when I remount07:38
uuubuntudli, any ideas ?07:38
dlijrleek, no, don't chmod on FAT, use, mount -ouid= , or put it in your fstab07:38
soaperstephan__ depends what you want. be more specific07:38
drjeckel655Is there any way to install flash on ubuntu 64?07:38
jrleekWin32 doesn't actually have any permission system you know.07:38
dliuuubuntu, that's not a proxy problem :(07:38
uuubuntudrjeckel655, it should be same i guess07:38
uuubuntudli, then ?07:38
jrleekIt's in my fstab....  I'll try changing the command line args.  Thanks07:38
dlijrleek, ntfs does :)07:38
stephan__souper, i want everything in a directory to have write access lets say quake07:38
wastreluuubuntu:  try   telnet pop.whatever.com 11007:38
wastreluuubuntu:  what does it say?07:39
jrleekdli: Yeah, but you almost can't write at all in NTFS with the linux drivers.. :P07:39
dlijrleek, put uid= in the options for that line07:39
Cornelliusjrleek: CaptiveNTFS ftw !07:39
dlijrleek, so, get rid of ntfs at all :)07:39
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dooglusCornellius: what is 'ftw'?07:39
Minsc37Does anyone know how to fix that infinite sound loop when Gnome starts?07:40
wastrelfor teh win07:40
Cornelliusdooglus: For the win :)07:40
dooglusheh, ok07:40
sktxcan anyone recommend a identd package that's fairly easy to set up?07:40
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uuubuntuwastrel, it says ok07:40
dooglusCornellius: is captiventfs supported again now?  last I heard it was dead07:40
needhelpGuys, i have been trying to install grub from my live cd so that i could use my installed ubuntu.. but i am lost07:40
jrleekdli: ah, thanks.  I had just "user" there, I thought that would di it.  Do I need to put uid=jrleek?  or just uid=?07:40
needhelpcan someone help me07:40
wastreluuubuntu:  ok so it looks like it connected to the pop server.  type  quit07:40
dooglusneedhelp: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?07:40
soaperstephan__: if you're root and want to give a single user write access to a directory: chown -R owner:group directoryname; chmod -R 755 directoryname07:40
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uuubuntuwastrel, ok07:40
dlijrleek, yes, you need uid=jrleek07:41
uuubuntudli, can i have your yahoo msn or gmail ? something ?07:41
wastreluuubuntu:  so you don't have a network problem - must be a configuration problem...07:41
soaperthat changes the owner to a single user/group, but allows only that group to read it.07:41
Cornelliusdooglus: Well, last release is from January 2607:41
RiverRatDid you guys get hit w/ the nasty bots too?07:41
uuubuntuok wastrel thanks07:41
wastrelRiverRat:  yes07:41
dliuuubuntu, butdiene@hotmail.com07:41
uuubuntuwastrel, are you good at it ?07:41
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wastreluuubuntu:  what mail program are you using?07:41
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jrleekdli: thanks07:41
uuubuntudli thanks07:42
howy424HI folks, just got my first install of ubuntu sorted, using it now07:42
uuubuntuwastrel, ms outlook 200407:42
uuubuntuwastrel, ms outlook 200307:42
RiverRatwastrel: Any idea what kind of a filter rule we should suggest to lilo?  It doesn't seem like there is a good one.  :/07:42
jrleekhowy424: congrats.  How's it going for you?07:42
wastreli thought this was ubuntu :]    uuubuntu i don't know outlook07:42
orbinhowy424: nice.  first distro?07:42
uuubuntuwastrel, i am talking about the clien07:42
wastrelRiverRat:  for the join spam or the dcc stuff?  i dunno - i suggested a bot.07:43
sktxcongratulations, howy424 :)  with a little luck and perserverence, your computer life has just become a helluva lot nicer :)07:43
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howy424well so far it looks great, I am wondering though about installing & using WINE, once you follow the instructions on winhq, what then?07:43
RiverRatwastrel: Well we got hit pretty good too.  :s   (#gentoo)07:43
charle97use synaptic to install wine07:43
wastrelRiverRat:  that just klines ppl who dcc it. .i'm no ircop tho07:43
howy424sktx: oh yeah, I'm over XP07:43
XVampireXHi, can anyone guide me how to do this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10785607:43
dooglusCornellius: interesting07:43
dlihowy424, maybe, you don't even need wine at all :)07:43
dooglusCornellius: are you talking about http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ ?07:43
sktxbtw, howy, if you need any help prettying up your desktop, i've put quite a few hours into customizing and would be more than happy to give ya a few tips07:43
XVampireXThe reason is because it looks different on my system07:44
Cornelliusdooglus: Yes07:44
^catalystanywhere you lot can suggest to get help configuring ALSA ?07:44
jrleekhowy424: I'll admit that I've never had good luck with wine07:44
howy424well I have one fav program that only comes for Windows, editplus07:44
RiverRatwastrel: I know you aren't, neither am I.  I just thought you might have an idea.  We have a bot but were wondering about the ruleset that we should use.07:44
Cornelliusdooglus: NEWS07:44
Cornellius07:44
sktxhowy424, i felt the same way... about winxp that is07:44
Cornelliuscaptive-1.1.7 (2006-01-26)07:44
sktxhowy424, is it a text editor?07:44
charle97use vim07:44
wastreluuubuntu:  so did you telnet from the same machine that you're running the outlook clients on?07:44
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uuubuntuwastrel, nope07:45
howy424well, yes, but an extremely good one07:45
wastreluuubuntu:  so it might be a network problem for them.07:45
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uuubunturitenow i am reconfiguring my proxy07:45
uuubuntuwastrel, can i have your yahoo hotmail or gmail ?07:45
howy424so if wine's no good, is there any other option worth trying?07:45
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sktxhowy424, what kind of features did it have that made it that good?07:46
wastreluuubuntu:  sorry i only have a private email addy07:46
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uuubuntuok thanks wastrel07:46
dlihowy424, you are in ubuntu, no need to be worried by windows :)07:46
XVampireXHi, can anyone guide me how to do this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10785607:46
jrleekhowy424: I heard good things about qemu the other day, but have never tried it myself07:46
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howy424sktx: built in FTP, completely configurable, down to syntax highlighting, code completion, and more07:47
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sktxhowy424, there's a load of great editors for linux... if you put the effort into learning vi, gvim will change your life07:47
sktxhmm07:47
wastrel<3 vi07:47
jrleeksktx: emacs forever!  :)07:47
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sktxlol07:47
sktxi'm a straight up vi guy07:47
needhelp:'(07:47
jon_can anyone help me on installing Real Player. when i follow the directions and type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" I get "chmod cannot access RealPlayer10Gold.bin etc."07:47
dlihowy424, make up your mind, vi or emacs , it's like marriage, better to make up your mind now, and stay loyal for the rest of your life07:48
sktxlol07:48
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sktxhowy424, have you had a chance to look through synaptic yet?07:48
dlijon_, you should run that command in the folder where you saved the file, of course07:48
jon_i saved it to desktop07:48
dlijon_, or you just, " sudo chmod "07:48
howy424well, I should come clean about the fact that I am no new comer to Linux, just necer used a GUI b4, but I have used vi a lot, but not for development07:49
jon_i'll try that07:49
sktxyou tried vim/gvim, howy424 ?07:49
howy424sktx: yes I have had a look through synaptic07:49
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dlijon_, in a terminal, type: cd ~/Desktop ; chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin07:49
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howy424sktx: no I haven't tried vim or gvim07:49
jon_ok07:49
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jrleekhowy424: SO you do web development?07:50
jon_still no luck07:50
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sktxif gvim were a woman, i would spend my days composing songs for it, and thinking of new and original ways to be nice to it.07:50
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howy424jrleek: yep07:50
sktx:p07:50
dlijrleek, I think bluefish is too simple for html :(07:50
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wastrelvimtutor07:50
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roostishawcan anyone recommend a good rss reader for linux?07:51
XaviusShadowWell hopefully once the ubuntu desktop iso is done downloading I can install it using that07:51
sktxaren't there some problems with the desktop iso?07:51
howy424I gotta tell you guys, I've tried just about all of them leading up to this point, where I want to use a Linux GUI full time07:51
gore_anyone familiar with googlepages?07:51
gore_is it possible to access them via ftp?07:51
howy424but I keep going back to editplus07:51
anuvuproblem with playback in xine can anybody help07:51
sktxhrmm07:51
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sktxwell there's got to be a reasonable substitution07:52
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needhelpI am loosing my mind... can someone please help me with restoring my grub. I tried the wiki and it gives me errors.07:52
needhelpwhy is it so hard07:52
wastrelhowy424:  http://editplus.info/wiki/Running_on_Linux   ?07:52
sktxi imagine it'd be fairly inefficient to run a window compatibility layer just for a text editor07:52
jrleekhowy424: Perhaps there are some good alternitives specifically for webdevelopment.  It would suck to have to leave your favorite editor, but, as I said, even when I have gotten wine to work, it hasn't worked well07:52
sktxeven if it is a really good one07:53
dlineedhelp, easy, just a few steps :)07:53
sktxi left my fav text editor for gvim07:53
howy424wastrel: oh cool, I'll go have a look... brb07:53
dlineedhelp, which part do you find confusing?07:53
sktxaedix suite always did me good, but vi showed me the wonders of moded editing.. *swoon* :p07:53
roostishawcan anyone recommend a good stand alone rss reader for linux?07:53
needhelpdli: i tried the wiki mentioned here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows07:53
jrleekwow, wastrel saves the day07:53
anuvuproblem with xine playing mpg file please help07:54
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jpgvietnamhi07:54
dlineedhelp, yes, and any problem?07:54
needhelpand when i try adding the hd root part it says : grub> root (hd0,2)07:54
needhelpError 21: Selected disk does not exist07:54
needhelpgrub> root (hda,2)07:54
needhelpError 23: Error while parsing number07:54
needhelpgrub> root(hd0,2)07:54
needhelpError 27: Unrecognized command07:54
needhelpgrub> root07:54
jpgvietnamhow to read  file *.chm on ubuntu linux07:54
jpgvietnamwho can help me ?07:55
wastrelwhat's a .chm ?07:55
dlineedhelp, okay, don't paste here :( next time, use pastebin.ca07:55
sktxjpgvietnam, they're like lit files i think, and have to be decoded07:55
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roostishawcan anyone recommend a good stand alone rss reader for linux?07:55
needhelpsorry dli07:55
sktxa .chm is a "compressed html file"07:55
ardchoillewastrel: iirc, that's a type of Windows help file07:55
anuvuhelp needed in mpg playback07:55
sktxits a windows helpfile format07:55
needhelpi am just very very frustated07:55
dlineedhelp, you should use grub> root (hd0,1)07:55
jmechms are used in linux too07:55
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sktxthey are?07:55
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jpgvietnami can read it on window07:56
sktxi can't recall seeing one07:56
jpgvietnambut can't on linux07:56
sktxjpgvietnam, tried opening it in your web browser?07:56
dlineedhelp, to confirm that, also, try: grub> find /grub/menu.lst07:56
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dlineedhelp, it should find (hd0,1) also07:56
scarndid someone want me? i saw a highlight07:56
needhelpthanks dli.. trying it07:57
XaviusShadowI'm having problem installing ubuntu still... everytime I try to install from the cd it gets to a certain part and says it can't find the cd anymore.07:57
howy424OK, so editplus definitely needs wine07:57
sktxmaybe, scarn, you feel like interpreting a tracerout output for me?07:57
dlineedhelp, after the root command, you can go ahead with the setup command: setup (hd0)07:57
gore_is there anyway to change the port settings on evolution?07:57
needhelpit says menu not found07:57
wastrelgore_:  edit > preferences > mail accounts > edit07:58
gore_wastrel, yah I'm tehre but I see nothign about specifying the ports07:58
dlineedhelp, or command: find /grub/grub.conf07:59
needhelpbut shud it not be grub> root (hd0,2) as my ubuntu setup is in /dev/hda307:59
scarnsktx, if i knew how..i would lol sorry07:59
wastrelgore in sending & receiving you should have fields...  which are you changing?07:59
sktxhehe no worries, bro :)07:59
jpgvietnamcan't open it my web brower07:59
gore_both07:59
jpgvietnam^^')07:59
gore_but I see neither in both of those tabs07:59
dlineedhelp, grub counts from 0, so, hda3 is (hd0,2)  ( indeed, it's not always so, better to confirm with the find command)07:59
gore_I need to change the pop port and the smtp07:59
jpgvietnamsomeone can't help me08:00
wastrelgore_:  oic no port field.  try appending it to the hostname08:00
needhelpsays find command not found08:00
gore_like this pop.whatever.com:38408:00
gore_?08:00
wastrelyeah08:00
gore_k I'll give it a whirl08:00
needhelpsays no such file or dir08:00
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jpgvietnam^^')08:01
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dlineedhelp, sorry, my bad, you many not have a /boot partition08:01
jpgvietnam^^08:01
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dlineedhelp, find /boot/grub/stage108:01
dreamcatcher5172looking for help installing nvidia glx08:02
dlidreamcatcher5172, did you follow the nvidia binary howto?08:02
dreamcatcher5172i have fx 520008:02
dreamcatcher5172i did08:02
needhelpsays no such file or dir dli08:02
dreamcatcher5172but xwindow started hiccuping08:02
needhelpam i f'ed?08:02
dreamcatcher5172had to cp to origional xorg.conf to get gui back08:02
gore_how did it hiccup dreamcater?08:02
gore_didn't start?08:02
dlineedhelp, find /etc/hosts08:02
sktxjpgvietnam, there's a page with a bunch of chm tools, try looking on there and see if anything jumps out at you.. i'll msg you the URL08:03
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dreamcatcher5172the step that states that xorg.conf driver section needs nvidia instead of nv08:03
dlidreamcatcher5172, do you have nvidia in lsmod, try: lsmod|grep nv08:03
dreamcatcher5172thats what messed it up08:03
needhelpit says /etc/hosts08:03
sktxhmm08:03
sktxnevermind, i guess...08:03
dreamcatcher5172i have it installed...i just cant use it08:03
dreamcatcher5172cause when i switch drivers in xorg.conf....it hiccups and wont start xwindow or gnome08:04
dlineedhelp, okay, can you find /boot/grub/menu.lst ?08:04
gore_so you changed the driver part o "nvidia" right?08:04
dreamcatcher5172yeah and thats when it hiccuped08:04
gore_right08:04
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gore_go to term and try: lsmod | grep nvidia08:04
dlidreamcatcher5172, do you have nvidia in lsmod, try: lsmod|grep nv08:04
needhelpno such file or dir dli08:04
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dreamcatcher5172hold up im checking08:04
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gore_see if you have the kernel module loaded08:05
dlineedhelp, or, find /boot/grub/grub.conf08:05
needhelpdli: i am very sorry that i am talking all your time08:05
dlineedhelp, it's quite easy, don't worry08:05
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dreamcatcher5172nvidia               4550772  008:05
dreamcatcher5172i2c_core               21904  2 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia08:05
dreamcatcher5172agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,intel_agp08:05
needhelpdli: says not found08:05
gore_yah its loaded08:05
dreamcatcher5172thats what i got...sorry if i broke the rules08:05
howy424I off to install wine and editplus, and sktx - I am going to get a hold of gvim while I'm at it ;)08:06
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gore_did you look at the error output?08:06
XVampireXHi08:06
XVampireXNeed help08:06
sktxthe package, howy424, is called gnome-vim08:06
dlineedhelp, you had grub working before installing windows, I suppose08:06
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dreamcatcher5172i did though i didnt write it down when the error happened08:06
sktxand if you don't love it, i'll personally kick myself in the ass.08:06
needhelpdli: no no08:06
XVampireXPlease, someone help me08:06
sktxhowy424, good luck with wine08:06
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gore_have any idead what it todl you was wrong?08:06
soaperWhat's the problem?08:06
howy424great, thanks sktx I will track it down08:06
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dlineedhelp, can you just reinstall ubuntu?08:06
sktxare you drowning, XVampireX ?08:07
XVampireXI did some tuning through one forum post and now I can't load X08:07
needhelpI had Ubuntu , XP and installed a new distro dli.. after the removed the distro by formating it.. i cant see my grub anymore08:07
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dlineedhelp, sounds like you didn't have it installed properly08:07
JohnnyXhi can someone tell me where the uninstall software program is located08:07
jon_I need help installing RealPlayer. When I type in "dir" the file is there but when i type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10Gold.bin" it says there is no such file or directory08:07
XVampireXHow do I load X manually?08:07
sktxwhat were you tuning?08:07
dreamcatcher5172something to do with the xorg.conf file08:07
PORDOXVampireX startx?08:07
dlineedhelp, you got windows overwriting your ubuntu?08:07
dreamcatcher5172startx08:07
XVampireXHmm, I'll try08:07
needhelpdli: dual boot08:07
ardchoilleGood night all :)08:07
soapergood night, ard.08:07
dlineedhelp, then, reinstall ubuntu now, just don't over write windows this time :(08:08
wastreldli:  i think he might have installed a different distro over his ubuntu08:08
jon_I need help installing RealPlayer. When I type in "dir" the file is there but when i type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10Gold.bin" it says there is no such file or directory08:08
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howy424thanks all, cya08:08
sktxJohnnyX, it's the same as the program you used to install the software, probably08:08
dreamcatcher5172i installed the nvidia glx package with the manager but after that i tried to change nv to nvidia in the driver section of the xorg.conf file...when that happened i got a blue screen on a bad resolution telling me xwindos fubuarred08:08
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dreamcatcher5172i cped the xorg.conf file back to the origional state to get back to my gui08:09
dlijon_, chmod a+x ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10Gold.bin08:09
JohnnyXsynaptic sktx ?08:09
gore_dreamcatcher5172,  I had to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website08:09
gore_its an easy install08:09
needhelpdli: thank you for all the time and support. I really really tried.. but i think i am done. I need XP for my mp3 player and school. I cant loose it... thanks anyways08:09
sktxyep yep JohnnyX08:09
gore_I recommend that08:09
JohnnyXhow do i uninstall?08:09
dreamcatcher5172i have a fx 5200 256 mb vid card08:09
dreamcatcher5172i'll check it out...brb08:09
orbinhow come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the way to enable this anymore?08:09
dlineedhelp, did grub find /etc/hosts ?08:10
sktxyou comfortable using the console, JohnnyX ?08:10
dreamcatcher5172err...how do i know which linux driver from nvidia? 32?08:10
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JohnnyXnot for removing software08:10
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twitchim having a serious problem, are there any advanced users here?08:10
JohnnyXi've only had ubuntu for a couple weeks08:10
sktxthe GUI way: right click the program you want to uninstall, and just choose "Uninstall"08:10
JohnnyXim still pretty new to it08:10
jon_still no luck, "no such file or directory". I'm sure it is a simple solution but i don't know what i'm doing wrong08:10
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dlijon_, ls ~/Desktop08:11
sktxJohnnyX, if you know the name of the package you're trying to uninstall, you can open a console, and use: sudo apt-get remove package-name08:11
dlijon_, do you see the file?08:11
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JohnnyXalright thanks sktx08:11
JohnnyXi was thinking it would be harder then that08:11
jon_ya, its the only thing there08:11
wastrelJohnnyX:  we can make it harder, if you like :] 08:12
JohnnyXlol08:12
sktxyou'll find that a lot of things end up being easier than you think they'll be, initially08:12
twitchwhenever i try to login, it takes about 5 attempts, it will start to load the desktop, then black out and return to the login screen, or sometimes go to a console login screen08:12
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twitchany know how to fix?08:12
dlijon_, sudo chmod a+x ~/Desktop/*08:12
spadestwitch anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?08:12
Frogzootwitch: if it starts sometimes & not others - it's a hardware issue - remove your overclocks, & reseat your memory dimms08:13
dreamcatcher5172can i get a bit of help getting the driver off the nvidia site?  I dont have experience installing packages outside of the package manager.  Any help is appreciated.08:13
jon_k, i typed it in, nothing came up tho08:13
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JohnnyXcan you use gnome meeting to make phone calls with the dialpad?08:13
twitchi havent overclocked08:13
dlitwitch, do you have lo? " sudo ifconfig lo "08:13
sktxdreamcatcher5172, what's the URL?08:14
acetech747i have two update that will not go through on apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade... how can i get the to go through?08:14
sktxjpgvietnam, did you get my message?08:14
dlidreamcatcher5172, you can, go to nvidia.com and download the driver, and run it as root08:14
twitchdli, yes i do08:14
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FunnyLookinHatdreamcatcher5172, Why would you want to do that?08:14
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sktxacetech747, tried doing it manually through synaptic?08:14
dlidreamcatcher5172, however, you should follow the ubuntu howto08:14
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JohnnyXhow do you connect to limewire using gnu-gntella?08:14
FunnyLookinHatdreamcatcher5172, just get it off the ubuntu repositories using synaptic....08:15
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FunnyLookinHat!nvidia08:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto08:15
FunnyLookinHat!multiverse08:15
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:15
jon_should i move my "RealPlayer10Gold.bin" file to another place and try to install it from there08:15
dlitwitch, check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors08:15
dlijon_, doesn't matter08:16
jon_I can see the file but nothing works08:16
dlijon_, however, I don't understand what could go possibly wrong :(08:16
JohnnyXis there a better torrent client then tornado?08:16
JohnnyXis there a bitcomet for ubuntu?08:16
sktxjon_, what are the permissions on the file?08:16
Aeschylusazureus is fine but a little hard to setup in ubuntu.08:16
dlijon_, ls -l ~/Desktop , pastebin the output08:16
acetech747sktx, i clicked mark all upgrades in synaptic and it is still holding back gnome-cups-manager and python-netcdf08:17
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FunnyLookinHatJohnnyX, I've heard a lot of people using kTorrent08:17
FunnyLookinHator something similiar08:17
JohnnyXis it for kde?08:17
FunnyLookinHatnah08:17
JohnnyXbecause i dont have that installed08:17
Aeschylusktorrent's for kde, yah.08:17
sktxJohnnyX, ktorrent is the closest one to bitcomet/bitlord08:17
FunnyLookinHatWell it will work fine in Gnome08:17
fluxinatorfreeloader is nice08:17
Aeschylusit's true08:17
FunnyLookinHatyou've got QT libs im sure08:17
fluxinatoror transmissiob08:17
Aeschyluskde apps work fine in gnome usually and vice versae08:17
JohnnyXso ktorrent works in gnome?08:17
JohnnyXalright08:17
FunnyLookinHatYup08:18
JohnnyXcause bittornado is kinda crap08:18
fluxinatoryep08:18
FunnyLookinHat"sudo apt-get install ktorrent" should do it08:18
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dreamcatcher5172ok i got an error08:18
dreamcatcher5172may i put it up?08:18
spades!paste08:18
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:18
roostishawwhat does   && mean in bash?08:18
jon_whatever, i give up, thanks anyway08:18
JohnnyXwhat are some junk files to delete that you never use to free up space?08:18
sktxbittornado is alright, but now that i think of it, ktorrent is probably the way to go...08:18
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JohnnyXi dont want to delete anything that will f up my system08:19
FunnyLookinHatJohnnyX, not too many...  linux is pretty light-weight compared to windows08:19
dliJohnnyX, sudo apt-get clean08:19
dliJohnnyX, deborphan also08:19
JohnnyXdeborphan?08:19
orbinroostishaw: command1 && command 2 == "do command1 and do command2"08:19
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sktxJohnnyX, if you search the forum, i seem to remember someone posting a howto on cleaning unnessisary files08:20
dliJohnnyX, sudo apt-get install deborphan08:20
JohnnyXalright08:20
JohnnyXthanks08:20
dreamcatcher5172http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692708:20
dreamcatcher5172let me know what you think08:20
dliJohnnyX, after than sudo deborphan|xargs dpkg --purge08:20
sktxJohnnyX, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/, poke around in the howto section.. you'lll find a lot of nifty stuff08:20
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dreamcatcher5172i attatched a screenshot as well08:21
JohnnyXalright thanks08:21
JohnnyXi only have a 30gig hard drive on this laptop and its already down to 1808:21
roostishawwhat command do i use to launch an app on startup minimized to the tray?08:21
Frogzooany ideas why my screen savers now run sooooo slooooowly ?08:21
sktxFrogzoo, are they 3d/GL screen savers?08:22
Frogzoothis is after upgrading the fglrx driver - it used to be ok08:22
dreamcatcher5172i put the pastebin url up08:22
Frogzoosktx: rss-glx yup08:22
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dlidreamcatcher5172, you should dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and should not edit xorg.conf manually08:22
wastrelyou had fglrx running, then you upgraded it?08:22
Frogzoosktx: personally recommend them - especially matrixview08:22
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dreamcatcher5172so 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:22
JohnnyXdoes amule have anything but servers for porn?08:23
XVampireXOk, I couldn't start X, the problem is from what I understand it, that when I was trying to do the tuning to the file system, it somehow turned the file system into read only file system, how do I fix that?08:23
FrogzooJohnnyX: I should hope not08:23
dreamcatcher5172its asking me if i should let it auto detect08:23
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XVampireXCan anyone help me with that, please?08:24
Frogzoosktx: so glx screensavers are broken, or what?08:24
JohnnyXlol Frogzoo08:24
jon_I am so frustrated with this RealPlayer problem, is there a type of "remote assistance"08:24
jon_i need help08:24
dliXVampireX, could be a filesystem error08:24
orbinFrogzoo: checked if direct rendering is up and running?08:24
JohnnyXcan you use gnome meeting to make phone calls?08:24
XVampireXdli: I can't go to the fstab and change it back, it's saying it's read only08:24
XVampireXNot even in sudo08:24
Frogzooorbin: yes, it works - wierd thing is, the screensaver runs fine run in a window, just very slow as a screensaver08:24
dlijon_, if you can set up openssh-server (and port forwarding at your router), I can login and have a look08:25
Frogzoo glxinfo |grep direct08:25
Frogzoodirect rendering: Yes08:25
pvdI am having a problem with grub, I get grub error 15 when I boot my computer up.  I had a partition that I resized in half with gparted and then when I rebooted system I got this grub error. I tried to load the ubuntu 5.10 cd to redo the partition tables and then reinstall grub but it wont work. I get an error that says target system isnt clean.08:25
JohnnyXis there a package fof aMSN so i can view camera?08:25
sktxXVampireX, sudo nano /etc/fstab doesn't work?08:25
JohnnyXor for gaim?08:25
jon_how do i set up openssh-server08:25
dliXVampireX, that's the real problem, why doesn't it go to ro ? boot livecd, fsck now08:25
XVampireXsktx: It works, but it doesn't let me change anything there08:25
sktxJohnnyX, gaim should be installed by default08:25
dreamcatcher5172in xconfig what should i set the bus identifyer to08:25
JohnnyXit is08:25
pvdMaybe I can use the new ubuntu live cd to get into a gui environment and re-install grub?08:26
dreamcatcher5172?08:26
JohnnyXi mean i need something to view cam08:26
Aeschyluspvd... good idea, but08:26
XVampireXOk, live cd08:26
dliJohnnyX, kopete has webcam, but not sure about the version in ubuntu08:26
Frogzoosktx: so what's the deal with 3d/gl screen savers?08:26
sktxJohnnyX, oh sorry i misunderstood your question08:26
Aeschylusthis is probably an issue that would be better off discussed in the forums...08:26
sktxFrogzoo, good question08:26
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Aeschylusin a chatroom there is little opportunity to provide your helpers with all the necessary information.08:26
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Frogzoosktx: lol08:26
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P3L|C4N0flooders08:26
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JohnnyXwhat was that?08:26
wastreljoin spam08:26
Frogzoobooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg!!!!!08:26
dlidreamcatcher5172, again, you should only use dpkg-reconfigure, but X -configure is good for testing08:27
JohnnyXwhy flood thing channel08:27
sktxJohnnyX, in a word, it was useless08:27
pradeepthis has been happening ..........08:27
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Aeschyluspvd: as I said... the chatroom isn't a very good environment to ask a question which probably requires some depth into how your system got like that and what file system you were using, etc.08:27
dli!ops someone is flooding08:27
dreamcatcher5172im sorry i meant xpkg-reconfigure....it asked me to auto detect...should i? or should i manually pick nvidia....08:27
JohnnyXwhat was the name of the messenger that had camera capabilities?08:27
JohnnyXor does gaim have a plugin?08:27
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sktxhrmm08:27
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dreamcatcher5172i tried manual but it asked for a bus identifyer for pci....its an agp card08:28
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Aeschylussomeone did flood. someone with some very sophisticated spambots.08:28
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sktxJohnnyX, i can't say i know of one08:28
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dlidreamcatcher5172, you can simply hit enter there for bus id08:28
dreamcatcher5172so skip it?08:28
dlidreamcatcher5172, yes08:28
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JohnnyXdo you know of a program to make calls from your pc with sktx ?08:28
dreamcatcher5172ok i'll comeback if i run into more problems08:28
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PacketScanjust turn off joins parts.08:28
dlidreamcatcher5172, if you couldn't get it from dpkg-reconfigure,  " X -configure " is a good idea08:28
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rexykik!kompose08:29
ubotuI know nothing about kompose08:29
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P3L|C4N0Madpilot, add mode +R this channel08:29
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twitchdoes anyone know how to uninstall the ATI Drivers installed by EasyUbuntu08:29
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robgood stuff08:30
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Madpilothi rob08:30
robhi Madpilot08:30
P3L|C4N0Madpilot, very well08:30
alindemanMadpilot: Good call, I'm trying to do server bans in the background, but that'll help08:30
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sktxJohnnyX, ekiga might do it.. are you talking about regular, telephone-line voice calls?08:31
XVampireXdli: What am I supposed to do in live cd?08:31
Madpilotit'll work - alindeman, let me know when we can go -R here, though08:31
AeschylusOh, by the way, while there's a lull: The size issue got me interested... so here's a useful little script I just whipped up. It tells you what files in your home directory are taking up the most space... du -S --block-size=M | sort -nr | grep -v '^0M' | less08:31
alindemanMadpilot: Will do08:31
Aeschylusremember to change to ~08:31
alindemanMadpilot: Doesn't look like they are actively joining anymore, but I can't say for how long that'll be true08:31
fr500hello08:32
fr500hmmm08:32
AeschylusAnd I admit I din't just whip it up... I've been using that one for years ;)08:32
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fr500noone read my bugs at launchpad....08:32
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fr500man Dapper is the first ubuntu version that breaks things for me08:32
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JohnnyXis anjuta the only compiler?08:33
wastrelanjuta isn't a compiler08:33
chennaituxianHow to change the keyboard layout preferences ?08:33
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JohnnyXanjuta ide?08:34
JohnnyXwhat is it08:34
twitchanyone?08:34
GuitarheroHaving my network configured and enabled makes me not able to boot into ubuntu anymore has anyone experienced this?08:34
wastrelanjuta is an IDE08:34
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JohnnyXwhats ide?08:34
chennaituxiananjuta will help make the development process easy08:34
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wastreltwitch:  you want to upgrade the fglrx or return to the prevous ati/radeon driver?08:34
chennaituxianIntergrated Developement Environment08:34
JohnnyXso whats a compiler and how do you use  it?08:35
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JohnnyXi installed a bunch of g++08:35
roostishawhow do i run a dmg install? or file?08:35
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chennaituxianJohnnyX: It has an editor, compiler, debugger included in it08:35
usamahi all08:35
AeschylusGuitarhero: could you give us a little more detail?08:35
alindemanMadpilot: Heads up, might be back08:35
JohnnyXbut there was nothing in the  programing section08:35
FrogzooJohnnyX: -> google c compiler08:35
dreamcatcher5172ok im gonna restart gnome brb08:35
sktxJohnnyX, the package you probably want for compiling programs from source is "build essential"08:35
Aeschylusbecause what you've told us so far is kind of vague...08:35
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chennaituxianBuddies, any one know how to change keyboard layout in Dapper ?08:35
usamai have installed ubuntu and yesterday i have recieved kubuntu cd, how can i install kde from that cd?08:35
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twitchwastrel, ever since i installed the graphics drivers from easyubuntu ive been having serious problems, i just want to go back to watever ubuntu installed before08:36
sktxJohnnyX, a compiler is a program that compiles source code into a binary program08:36
roostishawhow do i run a dmg install? or file?08:36
JohnnyXso there was no actual gui for it08:36
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JohnnyXyou just make it in a text file?08:36
chennaituxianusama: use apt to install the kdm from the CD08:36
orbintwitch: there's an #easyubuntu channel08:36
fr500roostishaw: hmm buy a MAC?08:36
JohnnyX and save it as .c++ or whatever08:36
sktxJohnnyX, make what?08:36
wastreltwitch:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   choose the radeon driver, i think that should work.08:36
GuitarheroIve reinstalled 3 timesa trying to fix this.  Whenever I have my network card in and enabled/configured in ubuntu, after i reboot the boot stops right after checking file systems, which is right before configuring netowrk devices08:36
wastreltwitch:  actually, check in /etc/X11/   for a backup of your old xorg.conf file08:37
tonyyarussousama: If it's the ShipIt CD, you can't.  You need the Alternate CD to use as an apt source.08:37
JohnnyXim starting to learn c++ and i installed all the G++ compiler and libraries08:37
twitchwastrel, ok ill try that08:37
JohnnyXbut there was nothing in programming08:37
roostishawfr500, sorry, dont got that much mony to spend... adobe just released a binary of flash 9 in dmg format...08:37
JohnnyXapplications > programming08:37
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chennaituxianJohnnyX: learn to use gcc instead from the command line08:37
jon_YES! i installed RealPlayer, thanks all08:37
fr500roostishaw: dmg files are Mac apps08:37
Aeschylusdon't know much about boot process managing. Can anyone help GuitarHero on this?08:37
dreamcatcher5172ok i restarted gnome and now i cant raise my resolution08:38
Guitarheroi have a linksys wireless card if that matters08:38
JohnnyXis that the only place you can use it chennaituxian ?08:38
usamatonyyarusso: are they (kubuntu org) are shipping alternate cd?08:38
fr500roostishaw bottomline, you cant08:38
dreamcatcher5172im stuck at 640by48008:38
JohnnyXi'd like to know how to use it from a command line and from a gui08:38
fr500roostishaw no flashplayer 8 for linux either08:38
Guitarheroif it cant configure it does that mean its just a driver issue, because when i can get into ubuntu i cant get internet to work anyway08:38
chennaituxianJohnnyX: it is easier to use command line compiling of ur C++ once u learn it how08:38
tonyyarussousama: I haven't received my stuff, but I'm told just the Desktop CDs are shipping.08:38
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Aeschylusokay, wait Guitarhero... so when you get it configured the first time, does it work then? Before you reboot it?08:39
Guitarherono08:39
JohnnyXbut how would you from a gui just in case?08:39
mak-peur#$3,1_\|/_ c$8a$4n$3n$8a$4b$3i$8s$3_\|/_ $9"mak peur" $3_\|/_ c$8a$4n$3n$8a$4b$3i$8s$3,1_\|/_ 008:39
AeschylusOkay, that's just a driver issue then. It means the driver doesn't work and you need to get one that does.08:39
chennaituxianJohnnyX: g++ filename.cc -o filename08:39
usamatonyyarusso: they are now shipping a single cd for both purpoese i.e, live and install08:39
Guitarheroive searched and found nothing08:39
Guitarheroi guess ill keep searching08:39
AeschylusUbuntu is trying to get it to configure and run at boot, and it doesn't cooperate08:39
Madpilotmak-peur, what the heck was that?08:39
Guitarherobut it was working08:39
Aeschylusit was?08:39
Guitarherolet me explain more08:39
Aeschylusokay08:39
tonyyarussousama: Correct.08:39
chennaituxianJohnnyX: Try Eclipse08:40
mak-peurI french08:40
dreamcatcher5172what are my options when the resolution cant be changed after installing nvidia-glx08:40
wastrel!fr08:40
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:40
mak-peurI not speek very good anglish08:40
delmarwhats an easy to use prog for "backing up" DVD video disks?08:40
orbinhow come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  or isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the best way to enable this?08:40
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sktxJohnnyX, you're learning c++ as your first programming language? or do you know others?08:41
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Guitarheroi took the hard drive with ubuntu on it out of the computer it used to be in and put it in another one.  THe entwork cards were two different types.  When I first plugged the hard drive in and booted, the internet worked.  But after the first reboot and everyone since i cant get past configuring netowkr devices.  this happens with new installs also08:41
mak-peurThank you08:41
usamatonyyarusso: hmm, it means i have to download everything :( (as a dialup user)08:41
dreamcatcher5172ouch08:41
JohnnyXwell im reading python and c++ at the same time08:41
JohnnyXpython a little bit faster08:41
AeschylusAlright.08:41
tonyyarussousama: Yep.  And I'm in the same boat as you - downloading it on dialup now.08:41
JohnnyXi havent really started getting into c++ seriously yet08:41
AeschylusWhat driver are you using... the original manufacturer one with ndiswrapper? Or are you using madwifi?08:41
chennaituxianusama: You will get Kdm in local linxu magazine CDs08:41
JohnnyXi just wanted to get all my ducks in a row before i got into it08:42
dreamcatcher5172what is the command that allows you to configure the graphics driver?08:42
wastrelok what's eclipse?08:42
Aeschylusor just whatever ubuntu autoconfigured for you and you're not exactly sure?08:42
mak-peurSuck my dick08:42
chennaituxianJohnnyX: python is mainly a script program so it will be faster08:42
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mak-peurFuck you shit08:42
usamatonyyarusso: ok, thanks for your help :)08:42
Aeschylusmak-peur: that's not very nice.08:42
JohnnyXyea thats why i chose it08:42
mak-peurA feel good08:42
wastreldreamcatcher5172:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:42
Madpilotmak-peur, behave, or leave. Thanks.08:42
chennaituxianJohnnyX: But professional app development mainly occurs in C++08:43
keithhhhhhas anyone installed Kino 8 on Breezy?  I tried and it always says failed to load media.08:43
JohnnyXyea thats what i've been told08:43
JohnnyXi also got a book on perl08:43
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mak-peurWhere is my unbrela08:43
mak-peurWhere is bryan08:43
chennaituxianJohnnyX: either learn perl or python08:43
hawkaloogiethen why is a lot of money made in Java and PHP programmers?08:43
JohnnyXi want to be fairly knowledgable in at least one by the end of summer08:43
chennaituxianYou cant have two swords together08:44
mak-peurBrayan in the kitchen08:44
zcat[1] keithhhhh: set default media format PAL or NTSC.. fixed it for me..08:44
sktxJohnnyX, python, i've heard is a great first programming language08:44
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snoopschennaituxian that depends on what you're developing for entirely.. Most programmers end up writing business applications or web applications these days.. And those markets are usually dominated by php, java, c#.net, asp.net08:44
Guitarherosorry i was disconnected08:44
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JohnnyXyea thats what i heard to sktx08:44
Guitarheroany ideas?08:44
zcat[1] something like that can't recall exactly what the option was08:44
sktxi did a couple python tutorials and it seemed pretty straightforward,,, fun stuff.08:44
chennaituxianJonhy, python is better than pearl, easier to learn and use08:44
snoopsperl, you mean ;)08:44
sktxhehe my first "programming" language was mircscript08:44
chennaituxiansnoops: am a PHP programmer, FYI08:44
AeschylusGuitarhero: are you using madwifi, ndiswrapper, or did ubuntu just automatically assign the driver?08:44
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JohnnyXyea comparing some perl scripts to some python ones ive seen it was much easier to understand python08:45
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lukeis there any way to use windows icon files (.ico) in Ubuntu? Please??08:45
Guitarheroautomatically08:45
sktxthat and python code is pretty by nature08:45
Guitarheroits call ra008:45
stephan__!azureus08:45
ubotuazureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo08:45
sktxbe design even08:45
Guitarherothe device08:45
snoopschennaituxian just commenting because your c++ statement was a bit false08:45
Guitarheromy old one was wlan008:45
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Aeschylusokay.08:45
efoxwhere do you throw scripts to start on login ?08:45
JohnnyXdoes anyone have or know where to get some good pdf's on javascript?08:45
sktxazureus is kludge though08:45
lukeis there any way to use windows icon files (.ico) in Ubuntu? Please??08:45
dreamcatcher5172ok restarting gnome again brb08:45
JohnnyXive been searching minova all day08:45
sktxJohnnyX, try mininova.org08:45
AeschylusTo begin with I don't think it's an issue with the hard drive.08:45
JohnnyXi did sktx08:46
sktxits a bittorrent search place.. its where i get all my ebooks08:46
AeschylusYou can throw that idea aside, simply because the hard drive couldn't have anything to do with it.08:46
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Guitarheroyeah me neither08:46
chennaituxiansnoops: i meant no offence, peace :D08:46
sktxoh cool, you know about it haha08:46
JohnnyXthe only ones i found didnt start downloading08:46
zcat[1] luke: open them in gimp and save them again as pnm or whatever08:46
sktxtried torrentspy?08:46
Guitarheroso its probably a network driver issue08:46
JohnnyXyea08:46
lukezcat[1] , ty08:46
AeschylusNow, here's what I want you to do...08:46
Guitarherohow do i get it to be wlan0 or something else08:46
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Guitarherookl08:46
JohnnyXtorrentspy and mininova are like my go to places when i need ebooks08:46
sktxGuitarhero, that's the part iwas never able to get past08:46
Aeschylusdo you have your computer on right now?08:46
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snoopschennaituxian didn't take it as offence.. misinformation is the killer though ;)08:47
sktxJohnnyX, me too, i got a pack from torrent spy that was like 3 gigs of various (mostly fiction) ebooks08:47
mak-peurdo you want to fock you hass08:47
Guitarheroyes but i put in a windows hard drive so i could use it in the mean time08:47
wastreltry webmonkey.com for javascript tutorials08:47
JohnnyXyea i got palahnuiks books from him08:47
wastreland reference08:47
Guitarheroso you are going to have to tell me what to do then i have to swap hard drives and hope all goes well08:47
JohnnyXhas anyone read maddox's new book?08:47
mak-peurfuck08:47
sktxJohnnyX, nice, i found neal stephenson on there, he blows me away.08:47
dreamcatcher5172ok i retried the nvidia drivers...they just wont let me change the resolution after the fact...any tips buddy?08:47
mak-peurfuck londre08:47
chennaituxiansnoops: I just din't want him to stop trying to learn C++, he is already learning perl, ;)08:48
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JohnnyXi found a torrent of it on torrent but it doesnt download08:48
AeschylusI don't think I can do that succesfully. But here's what I want you to do anyway. 3 steps.08:48
JohnnyXneal stephenson i heard that name the other day08:48
sktxJohnnyX, no but i want to.. i'm gonna try and get to the book signing when he comes to california08:48
JohnnyXwhat does he write about08:48
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JohnnyXi wouldnt want to meet him08:48
MadpilotJohnnyX, could you move the book chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?08:48
Aeschylus1) go into the command line, and type 'sudo cat /proc/modules' and find the lines you think have to do with your wireless device.08:48
JohnnyXhe seems like an unbearable prick08:48
JohnnyXfunny though08:48
JohnnyXoh sorry maddler08:48
sktxsorry Madpilot08:48
JohnnyXMadpilot*08:48
efoxare boot scripts kept in /etc/init.d ?08:49
Aeschylus2) after writing those down, type 'sudo iwconfig', and copy the output of that down somewhere to, to file on a disk, or onto paper, whatever.08:49
Madpilot #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet, guys :)08:49
efoxso if i throw a script in there it will load upon bootin ?08:49
wastreldreamcatcher5172:  i'm not familiar with the nvidia config software...  maybe check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ...08:49
Guitarheroso what do i do08:49
dreamcatcher5172i suppose the driver doesnt work for my comp im gonna switch back to nv driver set08:49
chennaituxianefox, obviosuly08:49
dreamcatcher5172oh ok08:49
dreamcatcher5172let me check that out08:49
Aeschylus3) After doing those first two steps, go back into windows, and post all this information on the ubuntuforum.08:49
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efoxchennaituxian: but do i have to do anything special or can i just put them in there ?08:49
AeschylusThat way, someone is likely to come by and help you.08:50
chennaituxian!boot scripts08:50
ubotuI know nothing about boot scripts08:50
AeschylusSomeone who knows more about it than me, really.08:50
Guitarheroalright08:50
Guitarherothank you for the help08:50
Aeschylusno problem08:50
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chennaituxianefox: google! :D08:50
Guitarherook well im goin to bed, thanks guys!08:50
AeschylusI need to take a nap as well, probably... but I must study! Gwargh!08:51
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PORDOanybody here have an FOAF page?08:51
dreamcatcher5172ok can i paste file contents on pastebin one moment plz08:51
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TimirCould someone tell me what LAN TCP/IP RIP is?08:53
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sktxpordo, FOAF?08:53
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sktxTimir, LAN = Local Access Network ... TCP/IP = Transfer Control Protocol /(over/ Internet Protocol08:54
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zcat[1] local area network..08:54
sktxRIP = Rest In Peace. or Pieces. :p08:54
sktxoh yeah08:54
zcat[1] rip == routing information protocol08:54
Timirsktx, RIP is disabled on my router, is that bad?08:54
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sktxTimir, i couldn't really tell ya08:55
Timirsktx, Would it hurt to turn it on?08:55
sktxTimir, but probably not08:55
Timirin RIP version it has RIP_1 RIP_2B and RIP_2M08:55
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Timirany clue on that?08:55
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sktxTimir, my policy is usually to keep as much turned off as possible, and only let the traffic that needs to come through, come through08:55
lukeis there any easy way to get a Home, Trash, Thunderbird, Firefox etc. shortcuts onto my desktop?08:56
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tomplastHi everyone, can anyone please tell me how to get multimedia plugins working in Opera?08:56
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tomplastI have them perfectly (mor or less) working in firefox08:57
tonyyarussoluke: Drag and drop from the menus.08:57
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lukehey, it works ;)08:57
whitehorseNtigerI have set up Samba for Ubuntu to share a few directories with a WIndows laptop on my network....if I open up a few ports in my Linksys can I have the same Windows laptop access the same directories over the Internet from a different network(location)?  How would I go about this?  Probably not worth it.  Would it be hard to set up?08:57
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dreamcatcher5172http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/86308:57
dreamcatcher5172thats my xorg.conf file can someone look at it and find out why i cant change resolutions?08:58
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dreamcatcher5172any help is appreciated08:58
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Timirsktx, my router isn't letting info through to  the internet from a computer(Trying to host a small game for 2 or 3 friends), if I plug the machine running it directly into the internet then it will host it, but I kinda want it behind the router08:59
wastreldreamcatcher5172:  what i would do is go in and edit out the modes you don't want (save a backup first)08:59
varsendaggrdreamcatcher5172, download xrandr   and run it08:59
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dreamcatcher5172what is xrandr08:59
wastreldreamcatcher5172:  like if you only want 1024x768, take out 800x600 and 640x48008:59
mamoruAnyone know how to get Gnome to automatically sort the icons on my desktop?08:59
dreamcatcher5172oh ok i get it...gonna try again09:00
wastrelor what varsendaggr says09:00
orbinhow come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  or isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the best way to enable this?09:00
tritiumorbin: it is09:00
varsendaggrdreamcatcher5172, yeah you can run that and --help for the instructions09:00
garryF!xrandr > garry09:00
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tritiumorbin: you need to comment out the 2nd line09:00
fdisquemamoru: right click on desktop select "Clean up by name"09:00
garryF!xrandr > garryf09:00
ubotuI know nothing about xrandr09:00
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varsendaggr!info xrandr09:01
ubotuxrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB09:01
orbintritium: i have.  usually it shows up after i do that.  it isn't however.  i only get hibernate09:01
garryFOh yes, thanks.09:01
tritiumorbin: have you restarted?09:01
varsendaggryou bet09:01
orbintritium: yes09:01
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mamorufdisque: That does it once.09:01
orbinhence why i'm asking in here.  dunno what's happening09:01
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tritiumorbin: what does "acpi -V" list for you?09:02
mamoruI want it to do it automatically.09:02
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orbintritium: which part do you need?09:02
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tritiumorbin: just verify that you have acpi working09:02
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orbintritium:  Battery 1: discharging, 41%, rate information unavailable.  Thermal 1: ok, 50.0 degrees C  AC Adapter 1: off-line09:03
tritiumokay09:03
tritiumorbin: which laptop?09:03
orbinpreasrio m2000 series09:03
orbinm2217ap to be exact09:04
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cwilluis there a terminal service server of ubuntu, or is edubuntu it?09:04
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tritiumorbin: okay, that's not whitelisted.  please put your /etc/default/acpi-support on pastebin09:04
wastrelcwillu:  ltsp packages are in ubuntu09:05
wastreli don't know anything about them but they're in the repo ;] 09:05
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fluxinatorI just set up postfix how do I check my mail09:05
fluxinator?09:05
wastrelfluxinator:  postfix is an outgoing mail server09:06
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fluxinatorshit!09:06
tritiumfluxinator: watch your language09:06
wastrelfluxinator:  where's your mail (watch your language :)09:06
fluxinatorsorry09:06
garryFGot mail?09:06
fluxinatori just sent mail from gmail to localhost@blahblahblah09:07
fluxinatorhow can I check that?09:07
wastrelfluxinator:  wait you are trying to receive mail on your ubuntu box?09:07
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orbintritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1692809:08
sktxto localhost@blahblahblah?09:08
fluxinatornot literally09:08
tritiumfluxinator: did you mail to a valid address?09:08
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fluxinatoryes09:08
fluxinatorafaik09:08
wastrelfluxinator:  the address is your ubuntu box?09:08
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fluxinatoryes09:08
evgindhi09:08
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spadescheck /var/mail ?09:08
tritiumorbin: did you check /var/log for any errors messages in the log files?09:08
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wastrelfluxinator:  ok in that case yes postfix should handle that09:09
fluxinatorill check09:09
tritiumorbin: acpi-support looks good09:09
fluxinatorhow do I check it then wastrel?09:09
orbintritium: er, which log file?  syslog?09:09
wastrelfluxinator:  well do you have a user called localhost on the system ? :] 09:09
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tritiumorbin: messages, syslog, kern.log09:10
crazy_penguingood day all! :)09:10
tritiumorbin: also, check your dmesg output09:10
fluxinatorwastrel no09:10
wastrelfluxinator:  check /var/spool/mail  or /usr/spool/mail09:10
pvd2006I need some help re-installing grub from the live-cd I've tried a couple of methods off ubuntu forums with no luck with grub-install.09:10
orbinoh, goodie. :-/09:10
orbindo error messages have a syntax i can search for?09:10
orbinor do i have to read through all this? :-/09:10
burntsigilSo is there no way to have gnome automatically sort desktop launchers?09:10
orbinburntsigil: right-click > clean up by name?09:11
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burntsigilorbin: That does it once.  I want it to do it automatically every time a launcher is created on the desktop.09:13
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Lynourefluxinator: has the hostname been configured to accept mail in the dns? see http://www.rscott.org/dns/mx.html  Otherwise receiving mail other than locally sent  is pretty doomed.09:14
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orbintritium: aha! worked it out.  gconf key apps/gnomepowermanager/can_suspend was unchecked.09:14
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orbinburntsigil: oh, i see.  dunno then sorry09:15
wastrelif there's no mx record mail will be delivered to the host in the address09:15
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tritiumorbin: the gnome power manager is separate from acpi-support, though.09:15
efoxhow do i delete a folder BUT keep the contents, so remove the contents and put them into another location...can this be done with 1-2 commands ?09:15
wastrelbut good point Lynoure09:15
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Aeschylusyeah, efox.09:15
tritiumorbin: it should work regardless of g-p-m settings09:15
orbinburntsigil: maybe ask in #gnome or put it in as a feature request09:15
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efoxAeschylus:  what would the syntax be ? or a google keyword so i know what im lookin for09:16
Aeschylusmv ~/directorytodelete/* ~/newdirectory; rmdir ~/directorytodelete09:16
orbintritium: but wouldn't the gui icon be part of gnome, not acpi?09:16
Aeschylustry it out...09:16
Lynourewastrel: I'm not sure all systems will... Unless it is in the RFCs that they must. (Cannot remember whether it is)09:16
tritiumorbin: yes, but not related to the power manager09:16
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wastrelit's in the rfc09:16
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wastrelbut still maybe not all systems will :] 09:16
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orbinit's there.  that's all i care about :)09:17
tritiumokay09:17
orbinthanks for the help09:17
devonst17_Yo, Dapper 6.02 PPC problem,09:17
tritiumsure, glad you got it working09:17
Aeschylusefox: those directories can be anywhere though. ~ just means /home/yourusername09:17
Lynourefluxinator: if you got a bounce message at gmail, the contents of that can tell you a lot.09:17
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efoxAeschylus: ya i know that part. =)09:17
Aeschylus:) yeah, jus checkin.09:17
Lynourehmm, must have breakfast09:18
fluxinatorlynoure no bounced mail09:18
devonst17_I've got an iBook clamshell, 800x600 resolution max, when I boot up the LiveCD, it looks perfectly fine till it loads X, at which point I get a black screen09:18
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devonst17_I was guessing this was a resolution conflict,09:18
devonst17_so I booted up with the alternate video setting (cant remember what it was, sry)09:19
devonst17_and it dumped me into bash09:19
garryFAre you using grub devonst17_?09:19
fluxinatorwastrel you accept pm?09:19
devonst17_garryF: It booted fine, this is the 6.02 livecd I just downloaded today09:19
devonst17_well,09:19
devonst17_It booted fine till it started x09:19
garryFOh I see.09:19
wastrelfluxinator:  just this once09:20
devonst17_and garryF its yaboot09:20
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devonst17_*yabboot09:20
wastrelfluxinator:  you need to identify with nickserv or you can't send pm's on this network.09:20
devonst17_anyway, it dumped me into Bash,09:21
pvd2006when I type in  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/boot /dev/hdc2 I get this error, "The file /mnt/hdc2/boot/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly." I need to re-install grub onto my hdc2 partition.09:21
fluxinatorwastrel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18591309:21
stefgdevonst17_: This is not an uncommon issue...09:21
fluxinatorfollowed that link09:21
efoxawwwwwwww09:21
pvd2006why is it putting in two boots?09:21
efoxthat guy told me to do something and i just lost my scripts09:21
fluxinatorsent email to localhost@xxx.dyn.optonline.net09:21
efoxdammit09:21
garryFSounds like a driver issue or the card in the ibook isn't supported.09:22
devonst17_stefg: I've found nothing :(09:22
devonst17_garryF: It recognized my iBook09:22
devonst17_it identified it as a Pismo/Clamshell/G4 powerbook09:22
wastrelsec09:22
fluxinatorsure09:22
garryFdevonst17_ Ye mean it recognized the video card? Try startx09:22
devonst17_garryF: 2 problems,09:23
devonst17_One, it booted me into x before09:23
devonst17_I got a plain black screen09:23
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pvd2006Looks like I am going to have to chroot into it and fix it09:23
devonst17_which is what led me to believe a resolution conflict09:23
garryFYeah, which makes me think it has misidentified the card, but mysterious that it worked before.09:24
stefgdevonst17_: The forums and the net were full of reports, when I set up an oldish iMac G3 4 weeks ago.. The video-autorecognition simply doesn't work perfect. type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the bash-prompt and do it manually (sometimes 15-bit colour is required!)09:24
garryFYay stefg!09:24
devonst17_stefg: Does this problem also effect the terminal?09:24
devonst17_stefg: cause it was _WAY_ the hell off09:24
devonst17_The screen started about -20,-10 chars off09:25
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stefgThsi is the somewhat odd video-hardware... you'll need the Original-OS to adjust that09:26
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wastrelfluxinator:  so you were following that howto?  do you have postfix running?09:26
devonst17_Sorry, I dont understand what your talking about,09:26
devonst17_MacOSx?09:27
fluxinatoryes, i think so09:27
wastrelfluxinator:  telnet localhost 2509:27
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fluxinatorwastrel telnet localhost 2509:27
fluxinatorsorry09:28
fluxinatorment to to post output09:28
fluxinator220 ool-44c79bae.dyn.optonline.net ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)09:28
tritium!enter09:28
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.09:28
wastrelfluxinator:  ok, you have postfix running.09:28
stefgdevonst17_ the thing with apples is that there's certain pram parameters (e.g. video-settings) that linux can't access09:28
wastrelflux you can type quit09:28
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cwillucan I do a kubuntu server from a ubuntu desktop install some way like the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop method?09:29
stefgdevonst17_: but there's more knowledgeable people around than me when it comes to powerbooks09:29
wastrelfluxinator:  try mail -v  <username>@localhost    with your username before the @09:29
devonst17_stefg: (Sorry to correct you when you are helping me and all, but its not an apple... Apples went out of production a very long time ago. The computers Apple makes these days are called Macs)09:29
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stefgOk... then I' ll drink my Mac-Juice and be quiet :-)09:30
tritiumdevonst17_: sorry to correct you, but you used "your" when you meant "you're" above ;)09:30
garryFLOL09:30
garryFstefg Great rejoinder!09:30
fluxinatorwastrel mail -v fluxinator@localhost  command not found09:31
devonst17_tritium: o_O09:31
devonst17_Ah fack09:31
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Tiako44hey09:31
ruohohas anyone been able to solve the nvidia driver problem regarding freezes?09:31
wastrelfluxinator:  ah well nvm.09:31
devonst17_you're right09:31
Tiako44Is Java 5.0 preinstalled?09:31
wastrelfluxinator:  ok you're connected directly to the internet, or are you behind a router09:31
tritiumdevonst17_: I'm just giving you a hard time :)09:32
fluxinatordirectly to the net09:32
Tiako44I tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin" and its not working.09:32
garryFLoL, I thought ye were serious. hehe09:32
tritiumTiako44: no, but you can install it easily09:32
devonst17_tritium: I hate it when other people do that too, I appreciate the criticism09:32
Tiako44k I got the bins on there09:32
Tiako44.bin09:32
cwilluTiako44: don't need or want to use them09:32
cwilluTiako44: make sure the universe repo's are enabled, and then just install from synaptic09:33
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wastrelthey're in multiverse09:33
garryFI've not herd of this mvidia driver freeze issue.09:33
Tiako44How do I make sure its enable?09:33
garryFer heard09:33
Tiako44From console09:33
Tiako44Arg did I get disconnected again?09:34
tritiumTiako44: which do you want?  jre?  jdk?09:34
Tiako44Whats the differnce?09:34
DarkMageZjava runtime enviroment, java developer kit09:34
wastrelyou'll need the java plugin to.09:34
wastreltoo, even09:34
Tiako44the enviroemtn09:34
Tiako44enviroment09:34
fluxinatorwastrel any suggestions09:35
fluxinator?09:35
Tiako44I downloaded jre.5.0.709:35
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stefg!java09:35
bretonslivkathis is a very lively channel09:35
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository09:35
stefg!repos09:36
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource09:36
ruoho!nvidia09:36
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:36
wastrelfluxinator:  check in the postfix config where it's putting mail.  try sending an email to your userid@your.hostname09:36
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devonst17_Aite,09:36
wastrelfluxinator:  make sure your router or firewall is configured to allow traffic to your ubuntu machine on port 2509:36
devonst17_Wish me luck all09:36
Tiako44It does not say how to do it from console.09:37
tritiumsee you devonst17_09:37
devonst17_im going to attempt to resize my OSx partition to make room for an ubuntu partition09:37
wastrelfluxinator:  check logs in /var/log  to see what postfix is doing (may need to enable logging in the config)09:37
garryFGood luck.09:37
IIIIIcccccceeeeegoooooooooooo09:37
tritiumdevonst17_: which machine?09:37
devonst17_tritium: this one, an indigo Clamshell, 320 megs of ram and a 100 gig HD09:38
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tritiumah, okay.09:38
devonst17_tritium: thats why I say wish me luck :)09:38
Tiako44Oh if I dont use add/remove then I have to download the bin my self right?09:38
tritiumdevonst17_: :)09:38
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stefgdevonst17_: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ten_tips_for_new_Ubuntu_users might be an interesting read for you09:39
garryFtritium I had a friend alydar who said he used tritium when we were talking on icq. I know him from an online game of ages ago. Would that be you?09:39
pvd2006Can someone help me with grub-install? I try to sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/boot /dev/hdc and I get this error, The file /mnt/hdc2/boot/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly. Then if I try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/  /dev/hdc I get the error /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. I've been reading the forums and IVe already tried 4 different methods and Ive looked through grub-install --help to see its 09:39
tritiumgarryF: no, sorry09:39
garryFtritium np. :)09:40
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dlipvd2006, can you setup in grub?09:40
pvd2006dli, what do you mean? Get to the command line part of grub setup?09:40
dlipvd2006, yes09:41
devonst17_oh man,09:41
devonst17_<3 ubuntu already09:41
pvd2006dli, yes I can get to that.09:41
devonst17_Havent even booted it09:41
devonst17_and I love it09:41
garryFHmm, thoat dont sound right. Root directory should look like /dev/hdc2/boot no mnt in it.09:41
garryFer thoat, grrrr = that09:41
devonst17_its got Nano set as its default text editor ^_^09:41
snoopsI've been playing with the 64bit of ubuntu, and while I like it, there are still a few too many annoying things - getting wine to work, hastling with chroot 32bit etc etc09:42
stefgpvd2006: the easiest way is normally to boot from a CD, escape to the menu and get a command line by 'c'. then 'find /boot/grub/stage1' 'root (hdX,X) [what the 'find' spit out]  'setup (hdX)' and you're done09:42
snoopsis there a way to convert down to a 32bit release, and remove the 64bit packages.. or at least replace the 64bit packages with 32bit versions?09:42
pvd2006stefg, I tried that on here.09:42
pvd2006Im on the live cd09:42
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stefgpvd2006: then open a terminal and 'sudo grub'09:43
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bretonslivkai am having a very difficult time with lirc. :(09:43
pvd2006stefg: K I am in09:43
stefgpvd2006: find /boot/grub/stage109:43
jpiccoloi have a question about ktorrent09:44
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pvd2006stefg: (hd0,1)09:44
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pvd2006so root (hd0, 1)09:44
devonst17_aite.09:45
stefgpvd2006: so it's correct that you ubuntu/boot partion is /dev/hda2?09:45
devonst17_off I go.09:45
pvd2006stefg, no, its on a different partition hdc209:45
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pvd2006./mnt/hdc2/boot09:45
pvd2006without the .09:46
fluxinatorwastrel you mean main.cf yes?09:46
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dlipvd2006, in grub command line: find /grub/stage109:46
stefgahhh, ok... so how comes that the stage one is on hd*a* then?09:46
wastrelfluxinator:  i dunno, i don't run postfix09:47
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jpiccolothe Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) of KTorrent will not work for 6.06 Dapper 64bit, will it?09:47
pvd2006I dont have any hdas, but I am on the live cd.09:47
pvd2006they are all hdcs09:48
fluxinatorwastrel would it be in /var/spools09:48
pvd2006for my hard drives09:48
wastrelfluxinator:  /var/spool/mail/  possibly09:48
wastrelor try the mailq command09:48
wastrelor it might get delivered to maildir in the local users home directory09:48
stefgpvd2006: Ahhh.... grub is confused, because your HD is on the second IDE-Channel, and no drive is present on the first09:48
pvd2006cd rom is on the first I think or the 2nd, not sure.09:49
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dlipvd2006, in grub command line: find /grub/stage109:49
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pvd2006dli, tried that09:49
dlipvd2006, and?09:49
kingfisher@search lifehouse09:49
UbugtuNo matching larts were found.09:49
pvd2006Error 15: File not found09:49
fluxinatorwastrel,  I am seriously hating postfix atm09:50
stefgpvd2006: read about the 'map' option with grub... you'll have to tell grub to virtually swap adapters to boot09:50
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dlipvd2006, find /boot/grub/stage109:50
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pvd2006(hd0,1)09:50
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wastrelfluxinator:  what are you trying to accomplish, forget postfix.  you need to setup a mail server?  or you are trying to leanr bout mail servers09:50
fluxinatorwastrel it says mailqueue is empty09:51
fluxinatorwastrel a little of both09:51
wastrelfluxinator:  check gmail for a bounce09:51
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efoxwhen modifying cron, does    * */2 * * *   mean every 2 hours ?09:51
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fluxinatorwastrel no bounce mail09:52
wastrelfluxinator:  the mail system on the internet is pretty sensitive to spam these days.   a mail server without proper DNS records and a static ip is going to get flagged as a spammer frequently09:52
fluxinatorthen Ill just get rid of postfix09:52
dlipvd2006, root (hd0,1)09:52
dlipvd2006, setup (hd0)09:52
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pvd2006 Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,1)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded09:53
pvd2006Done.09:53
pvd2006so I should be good to go?09:53
garryFcrosses fingers.09:53
dlipvd2006, mount the partition, make sure you have correct menu.lst09:53
pvd2006k09:53
fluxinatorwastrel, i think im just going to scrap it totally09:54
pvd2006sudo gedit /mnt/hdc2/boot/grub/menu.lst looks fine09:54
wastrelfluxinator:  k.09:55
garryFCould do a pastebin of it so we could see incase it don't work.09:55
dlipvd2006, then, you can reboot with it09:55
pvd2006alright, ill pastebin it first.09:55
wastrelbedtime09:56
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pvd2006http://pastebin.ca/76214 is my pastebin of menu.list, I will brb, going to try to reboot and log in.09:57
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ic56efox: yes, * */2 means ev.2 hrs.09:58
efoxic56: thanks09:58
ic56efox: yw!09:58
efoxic56: does that happen on the hour, or from the time i modified the crontab ?09:58
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ic56efox: actually, wait a minute. the first * is minutes. so the above says *every* minute on alternate hours. from midnight to 1am, ev.minute10:00
ic56 from 1am to 2am not at all.10:00
spades0 */210:00
ic56efox: what you want is something like 23 */2  which means ev.2 hrs at 23 mins past the hour10:00
efoxoic10:00
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[1] billI've been experianceing intermitant hard locks with dapper for the last few weeks, and today it finally failed to boot.  Half the data on the harddrive is gone and the install program is sending thousdands of badcrc and seekcomplete errors whenever it tries to write data.  Is this consistent with a dead hd?10:01
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garryFYes, or a dying one.10:01
Thib_GHello10:02
sp_hello10:02
[1] billok, thanks.10:02
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ic56efox: make a habbit of starting jobs at random minutes past the hour.  This way, you won't end up with jobs hogging the CPU simultaneously.  Remember, if you're networked, your jobs can affect others and others can affect you, eg if you receive mail, mirror websites, etc10:02
Thib_GHas sameone ever tried to convert a video to mp4 ?10:02
pvd2006alright, it works now:)10:02
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sp_Any Lyx users10:02
pvd2006thanks dli and the other person who helped me10:02
garryFif it has smart technology and your bios can check it, it can tell you if hte drive is dying.10:02
garryFYay pvd2006!10:02
bretonslivkamp410:03
pvd2006funny thing is, I tried the same command and it didnt work, I must of put too many spaces or something.10:03
sp_Looking for someone who has used lyx and jabref10:03
stefg[1] bill: you don't need the smart-monitor... i you see someone bleeding, you can tell he's injured, cant you?10:04
garryFEasy to do little tyepos/10:04
garryFhehe10:04
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pvd2006Oh yeah, I am great at those:)10:04
garryFUnless its a dying cable.10:04
stefg^true^ or a loose connection10:05
dooglusanyone familiar with ntop: is the 'throughput' on the 'network load' graphs in bits or bytes?10:05
garryFYep, I can type-o at 70 epm. errors per minute10:05
stefggood point fo #ubuntu-offtopic10:06
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garryFOne time the company I worked for went through a whole box of cables and was about to toss the drive when we find out that every single cable was bad.10:06
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looksausI'm looking for a decent keyboard layout for my ibook with a Belgian keyboard10:10
efoxic56: ok, that makes sense.10:10
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ic56efox: yw!10:10
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cute_bettonganyone know why ever ubuntu cd i have tryed to burn has failed? like it dose'nt work10:11
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compengicute_bettong, did you try to burn it on 4x?10:12
cute_bettongi tryed at 1x10:12
cute_bettongand it still had horrible errors10:12
garryFWell. Only thing that has messed up a burn is if I started something processor intensive while burning.10:12
compengigallag, it can be10:13
Frogzoocute_bettong: sometime you can burn too _slow_ - try 75% of max speed10:13
[1] billstefg: yeah, I Just have somehow never had one fail on me before.10:13
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garryFHopefully its just a fluke.10:13
stefg[1] then it'10:14
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stefg[1] then it's time for your first time :-)10:14
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garryFYep, you were next, or you let the dog eat off the cd.10:15
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efoxhow do you keep a log of events ? I10:15
Scrippiefun10:15
efoxim just playing with some stuff, and i want to keep a track of the time a cron event occured.. know how to create a log, just not how to implement a time with it10:16
garryFOne time I did have computer trouble at work. It was a snake that crawled inside. Big kingsnake curled around a drive for warmth.10:16
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MadpilotgarryF, are kingsnakes venemous?10:17
garryFNope, and are born tame.10:17
robdoes anyone know of a good program to generate md5 hashes with?10:17
garryFMadpilot nope, and are born tame. Great pets.10:17
ic56efox: "man cron" reports "cron logs its action to the syslog facility "cron"10:17
RobNyc!easyubuntu10:17
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:17
RobNyc!automatix10:17
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.10:17
MadpilotgarryF, cool - I guess :)10:17
RobNycwhats better easyubuntu or automatix?10:18
efoxic56: once again, thanks10:18
garryFMadpilot Yep, I still have him years later. Called bruiser.10:18
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^catalystlooking for help with nvidia nforce4 spdif output, any clues?10:18
garryFEasyubuntu, but last I sent someone there days ago, it had a bug and broke thier system.10:18
cydrivecan someone help make a webserver on my ubuntu desktop?10:18
garryFalsamixer10:19
KenSentMe!tell cydrive about lamp10:19
KenSentMecydrive: chech what ubotu sent you10:19
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KenSentMe*check10:19
dreamcatcher5172how do i start the config for xorg10:19
^catalystgarryF: , I've tried there but it doesn't list coax spdif output? I've got working analog sound but thats it10:19
ic56efox: check your /etc/syslog.conf  Chances are, the cron entry is commented.  Uncomment it and sig your syslogd to cause logging from cron to actually get saved to syslogd to a file.10:19
garryFI have heard good things about Ruby aka ruby on rails for web developement too.10:19
dreamcatcher5172forgot the command10:20
dlidreamcatcher5172, still ? dpkg-reconfigure10:20
dreamcatcher5172yeah i still cant change my resolution10:20
garryF^catalyst yeah, I had to hit the right arrow to scroll horizontally to it.10:20
dreamcatcher5172sorry if im bothering you guys too much10:21
cydrivei have apache but how do i i edit the webpage and make it so people can acces my sytem?10:21
dlidreamcatcher5172, no, just wondering what could possibly go wrong there :(10:21
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efoxic56: is there no way of doing it without goin through that procedure ?10:21
dreamcatcher5172i know...i feel its something stupid i did.10:21
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efoxic56: im just curious10:21
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ic56efox: only other way is to modify your cron jobs to manually send some output to a file.10:22
^catalystgarryF: , im getting no sound thru coax sp/dif10:22
KenSentMecydrive: the standard webpage is in /var/www/apache2-default10:22
efoxic56: thats what i have it doing now, it creates the log file, and tells me what was done, but there is no time.10:22
cydriveok and when i start apache people just type in my ip and port 80 and they should get my page?10:23
garryFsomething about sudo dpkg -config xorg or something like it.10:23
dreamcatcher5172is there an option to re-initialize the autoconfig that found my graphics settings when i installed?10:23
efoxic56: id actually prefer doing it this "hardeR" way only cuz im learning as i do it10:23
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garryF^catalyst I've never tried to use spdf.10:23
dreamcatcher5172i guess the nvidia drivers dont work for me10:23
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ic56efox: if you *do* modify your crontab, you should check your /etc/logrotate.conf to ensure the new logfile (/var/log/cron if you simply uncomment the default entry) gets cleaned out once in a while, rather than eventually consuming your whole drive10:24
dlidreamcatcher5172, does it work with nv?10:24
dreamcatcher5172the nv drivers were fine but when i changed back to them i still could not change my resolution10:24
garryF!nvidia > dreamcatcher517210:24
dlidreamcatcher5172, so the same xorg.conf, with nv, the resolution is correct10:24
dreamcatcher5172now the nv drivers wont let me change resolutions10:24
garryF!resolution10:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:24
ic56efox: so, just add a time stamp to the job.  like this: date>>logfile10:24
garryFI usually hand edited the xorg to put the new resolutions in. Gotta be careful of type-o's tho.10:25
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garryFdreamcatcher5172: Try downloading and running xrandr from the main repos.10:26
garryFand run it10:26
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efoxic56: im looking at the logrotate.conf file now, when it says "rotate 4" does that mena after the time period, the older files simply get deleted ?10:27
bilsshi folks10:27
dreamcatcher5172ok im trying to reconfigure the xorg settings through consoel10:27
ic56efox: for a more compact time stamp, try: date +%H:%M.  Learn more about this by reading man date10:27
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garryF!info xrandr10:27
ubotuxrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB10:27
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KenSentMecydrive: yes10:28
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bilsswhat effects would i expect if i disable IVP6 i if ssh and smtp are listening on tcp610:28
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dreamcatcher5172ok brb10:29
ic56efox: yes. "rotate 4" means, after 4 rotations, the oldest (fifth) file is deleted.10:29
ic56efox: man logrotate10:29
efoxic56: ya im readin it now10:30
ic56efox: good stuff, efox10:30
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efoxtheres soo many options10:31
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ic56efox: yes.  having many options makes learning something intimidating at first.  Later, you appreciate the functionality and power.10:32
^catalystis there an ALSA channel somewhere?10:32
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garryFYes ther eis an alsa channel called #alsa with 35 users there now10:33
pvd2006Hmm, well I can't load the xubuntu bootable cd because it wont mount the root file system.10:33
pvd2006I was going to reinstall because I just backed up everything10:34
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efoxic56: it does make it intimidating, but im already loving everything this system can do now10:34
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dlipvd2006, just install ubuntu and get the xubuntu-desktop package10:34
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efoxinstead me letting the OS do what it does, im helpin it along and tellin it what to do and having control over it10:34
efoxplus this terminal is pretty dam cool too10:35
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ic56efox: ah, the power! Mwahahaha! :-)10:35
pvd2006thats ok, I dont want the extra garbage, ill figure out a way to get it to work, this is the old xubuntu beta 2 dapper flight 7 cd I believe.10:35
ic56efox: do you know how to search for keywords inside manpages?10:35
Madpilotefox, the command line is strangely addictive ;)10:35
pvd2006so Ill download the new one.10:36
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ubuntumetachat.net10:36
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pvd2006actually I think ill get the alternative cd10:36
Madpilotpvd2006, grab the release version of Xubuntu, for sure - there were a lot of updates from Beta210:36
algorhelp me for wpa mode wap_supplicant10:36
^catalystThe SP/DIF support in this chipset currently requires a CVS version10:36
^catalystof ALSA.10:36
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efoxic56: sadly now, i just press SPACE and skim through until i find what i want10:37
efoxlet me see if i can figure it out10:37
efoxMadpilot: yes...yes it is10:37
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Madpilotefox, "man man" is the... man file for man files - quite useful10:37
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KenSentMe!tell algor about wpa10:37
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algor!tell10:38
ubotuI know nothing about tell10:38
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ic56efox: what pager are you using?  "more" or "less"?  Most likely the latter.  If so, pressing "-V" (2 characters) should report so.10:38
KenSentMealgor: check the message ubotu sent you10:38
cydrivehow do i find my lan ip in ubuntu?10:38
algorty10:38
dlicydrive, sudo ifconfig -a10:38
KenSentMecydrive: open the terminal and type ifconfig10:39
cydrivethanks10:39
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efoxomg10:40
efoxi just learned how to eject my cdrom from terminal10:41
efoxi LOVE this thing10:41
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algori read it but i have problem, i have ipw2200 wireless10:41
vltHello. When I connect to a server via SSH with "-R 1324:TARGET_IP:80" it only listens to 127.0.0.1:1234. How can I make the remote machine listen to 0.0.0.0:1234?10:41
vltOr maybe I can manage it without ssh and just use iptables. So how can I redirect connections from "-i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 1234" to TARGET_IP:80 (and its answers back to the client)?10:42
efoxis the first user (durin the installation) created the root ?10:42
efoxor is "su" the way to get to the root10:42
dliefox, no, root passwd is disabled in ubuntu by default10:43
Madpilotefox, just use sudo in front of your commands10:43
efoxi am logged in as the first user created, is that a smart thing to do ?10:43
Madpilotubotu, tell efox about sudo10:43
ic56efox: no. the first ordinary user created (uid 1000) is the one allowed to sudo to root, by virtue of belonging to the right groups10:43
Madpilotefox, sure10:43
efoxno no..i kno bout sudo and su...im jus readin off a site (not that credible) about some linux stuff and it said that the first user created has all rights like root and shouldnt be used cuz u can damage your system10:44
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nonix4How do you use 6.06 LTS livecd w/out a mouse? The UI gives absolutely no hints whatsoever on what you should do if you have no mouse.10:44
Madpilotefox, that's not how Ubuntu is set up, really10:44
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KenSentMevlt: in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf you can add another line under 'Port 22' like 'Port 1234'. This way the ssh server listens both to 22 and 123410:44
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efoxok its late...or early..depending on how youlook at it...its 445am...im out for the nite...mornin...watever10:45
efoxthanks for all the help !10:45
ic56efox: the site makes a valid point.  However, Ubuntu is meant to be used by that single user -- it's meant to be a reasonable simulation of a windoze environment without going all the way.  If you're really paranoid, you can follow the site's advice and make yourself another user that won't have sudo privilege10:45
algorkensentme, you use wpa wireless?10:46
efoxic56: nah, im the only one usin this laptop so i dont think its that much of a problem and my desktop is going to be primarily run by myself again10:46
efoxits not a public computer...10:46
efoxcool...thanks guys10:46
KenSentMealgor: no, but i've tried installing it. It didn't work for my wireless card. Did you check the link to the wiki page ubotu sent you?10:46
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ic56efox: yw!10:46
vltKenSentMe: I don't want ssh to listen natively to 1234 but to forward id incoming connects on 1234 to another IP and Port. That's what option "-R" does (but only listens to localhost:1234) ...10:47
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KenSentMevlt: ah, ok. Didn't read your message right10:47
dooglusvlt: there's a package called 'simpleproxy' which can do what you want.  you can probably configure iptables to do it too, but I don't know how10:48
algorkensentme, yes i read it but i have problem, i use knetworkmanager too10:49
vltdooglus: Thank you. I'll have a look ...10:49
KenSentMealgor: sorry, i can't help you with that because i haven't got it working myself10:49
dooglusvlt: port forwarding xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8888 to 192.168.0.2:80 .10:49
dooglus/sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:8010:49
dooglus/sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT10:49
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algorknow some "guru" of wireless wpa? :)10:50
HorzA-is ot possible to copy ubuntuserver from harddrive to usb and boot it from the usb stick?10:50
takedown!automatix10:51
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.10:51
takedown!easyubuntu10:52
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.10:52
algorknesentme know some "guru" of wireless wpa? :)10:52
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vltdooglus: Cool. Trying ...10:53
jeldertis there a changelog for the new FCKeditorX?10:53
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^catalystOK, i have spdif output in XMMS :)10:54
nonix4Anyone else had a cdrom drive that gets locked in "eject" state after ubuntu ejects the cd on reboot? Only powerdown will fix that :-(10:54
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shane_!easyubuntu10:54
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KenSentMealgor: only thing i can say is try to ask here10:55
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algorkensnt ty10:57
vltdooglus: simpleproxy works. Now trying just the iptables lines ...10:57
dooglusvlt: I just tried it, and can't get it working.10:57
vltdooglus: simpleproxy or iptables?10:58
dooglusvlt: iptables10:58
vltdooglus: Maybe the answers don't fins their way ...10:58
vltdooglus: find10:58
dooglusvlt: I copied it from http://www.hackorama.com/network/portfwd.shtml - but maybe that's only for the 2.4 kernel?10:58
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ompaulalgor, of you type kens and hit the tab key your client may auto complete the nickname - always be aware that the tab may end up wrong and you need to hit it more than once or include more letters, enjoy it ;-)10:58
vltdooglus:No, I don't think there's such a big difference.10:59
KenSentMeompaul: i was thinking about saying that, but thank you for reading my mind11:00
dooglusvlt: maybe it failed like the last paragraph says it will: "The above rules work fine when you access from outside, but if you try to access the same port xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8888 from an internal machine, it will not work." - I used the local machine to test it11:00
ompaulKenSentMe, tab is my friend ;-) yours too I take it11:00
vltdooglus: Then packets dont run through PREROUTING I think11:00
KenSentMeyes, ompal ;)11:00
ompaulhehe, okaayyy11:00
dooglusvlt: see also: http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/27126.html11:01
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^catalystguys, is there a global sound output configuration somewhere?11:02
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thelsdjanyone know why a lot of the time the draw time in gnome-terminal is terrible then every once in a while its really fast? i have yet to figure out what effects it :(11:02
ompaul^catalyst, yes and no, sound is a bit of a mess what is the exact issue your talking about?11:03
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^catalystwell I need all sound output to go to alsa hw:0,211:03
^catalystso, it'd be pcm output yeah?11:03
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ompaul^catalyst, all I know how what to do is use kmix or alsamixer to increase the volume - and hope the sound cards are supported, if you get badly stuck there is a guy nick crimsun who is the main genius when it comes to audio, usually about +8-12 hours from now when he gets online - assuming he is not gone on holidays11:05
^catalystits all working fine11:05
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^catalystbut gnome/x or whatever isnt pushing its sound to hw:0,211:06
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vltdooglus: I tested with just the first line: I connect from A, iptables runs on B and does the forwarding to C. The packets reach C  (I can watch with iptables logging there) and have the source address of A, so I think there's some additional masquerading needed ....11:06
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ompaul^catalyst, I know less than that about audio, sorry11:06
^catalystno worries, thanks for the help anyway11:07
nonix4Err, how are you supposed to use 6.06 installer? It starts up in such a useless resolution that the buttons supposedly after the language choices don't get shown!11:07
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^catalystnonix4: , I did not have that issue11:08
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YondaIIDoes anyone know where aMSN stores the cached display pictures?11:08
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vltdooglus: It works!!! I added "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o tun1 -j MASQUERADE" and now the packets arriving on C have source IP of B, and B sends C's answers back to A   :-))11:09
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nonix4^catalyst: well, maybe because you have a monitor that supports DDC. Not so here. Using BNC cabling w/ my monitor.11:10
^catalystoh ok11:10
^catalystis it fixed freq. ?11:10
nonix4... livecd only allows 640x480@60Hz in the "set resolution" thing, the monitor doesn't work well with under 90Hz so the picture looks bad11:11
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^catalystyou could mash up the livecd xconfig couldn't you?11:11
^catalystthat'd let you have a different resolution11:11
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nonix4^catalyst: yup... I know ctrl-alt-f1, but would "normal" users know how to do that? :-)11:12
^catalystnormal users have DDC monitors :)11:12
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nonix4^catalyst: nowadays, yes :-)11:14
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nonix4^catalyst: normal users aren't crazy enough to dabble with lot of the features I've been using recently either - evms and all that fun seems to have bugs that'd get fixed if somebody actually used those things enough to report bugs :-)11:15
YondaIIWhere are the program folders located, eg. in windows they're @ C:\Program Files\App   ... in Ubuntu whats the equivilant?11:16
woneahow do install libgii0, going round in dependency circles!11:17
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KenSentMeYondaII: /usr/share mostly i think11:19
KenSentMeYondaII: but their config files are in /etc11:19
YondaIIKenSentMe, cheers11:19
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^catalystshit, how do I restart ALSA again ?>11:22
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ompaulYondaII, it depends, /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin/ /sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin and then there is the X stuff what are you trying to install?11:22
ompaul^catalyst, less language, we are aiming at a G rating here, and killall alsa0911:23
^catalystbut i want it to restart?11:23
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ompaul^catalyst, it starts when you run an app that wants it11:24
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^catalystoh cool11:24
YondaIIompaul, oh im not trying to install anything...im trying to find the cached image folder for aMSN...nothing too important ;) but ill have a poke around in those folders thanks11:24
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ompaulYondaII, then /usr/share - I would build the locate db >> sudo updatedb<< and then run >>locate amsn <<11:25
YondaIIompaul, thanks11:25
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lxITHello All11:26
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ompaulHawk|-, when you leave the keyboard much better to do /away AFK and then if someone uses your nick they get told your afk and your not telling 666 people that your afk ;-)11:32
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Healotdamien|afk11:33
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Hawk|-hmm11:34
Nameeaterdoes anyone know how I can stop applications blinking in the current desktop when they are infact on another desktop?11:34
Hawk|-ompaul, why is it better?11:34
thelsdjso does anyone know whats up with the draw time on gnome terminal?11:34
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Nameeaterin the application bar at the bottom11:34
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thelsdjtakes like a second to write a screen full of text sometimes11:35
ompaulHawk|-, your not creating channel noise11:35
Scrippiesup?11:35
Hawk|-ompaul ok, that makes sense11:36
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ompaulHawk|-, when you add up everyone doing it - it is something I ask people to do ;-)11:36
Scrippiefun11:36
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Hawk|-mhh try pls ompaul11:37
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Hawk|-ompaul, how to disable the away?11:38
^catalystffs11:39
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^catalystautomake 1.5 ? how do i get it, apt-get is only installing 1.4, 1.5+ are listed but have no install candidate?11:39
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ompaulHawk|-, depends on the client - in xchat it is settings preferences general announce away messages a tick box - not on by default11:40
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Hawk|-oh ok, did u get my message?11:41
algorsomeone have ipw2200 wireless card?11:41
heatxsinkalgor:  yup11:41
heatxsinkwhatz up?11:42
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GorlistHi, whats a good ftp manager for ubuntu ?11:42
MatthewVGorlist, nautilus will work, otherwise give gFTP a try11:42
Hawk|-mhh ok, autodisable away is possible 11:43
Gorlistthanks,11:43
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ompaulHawk|-, no11:45
^catalystPackage automake1.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package.11:45
^catalystThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or11:45
^catalystis only available from another source11:45
^catalystE: Package automake1.6 has no installation candidate11:45
ompaul!paste11:45
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)11:45
Frogzooanyone notice that fglrx doesn't set low power mode during boot up when on battery?11:45
ompaul^catalyst, two lines - I have asked someone else no reply yet11:45
^catalystoh sorry, my bad.11:45
^catalystthats a good idea that pastebin!11:46
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chetanhi all. i am trying to install a vpn client for my unis wireless network. whilst installing it is asking me for the "Directory containing linux kernel source code". can someone please help?11:47
Healotget the kernel header/kernel source? btw you're compiling?11:48
fernandoHi, I am trying to get the CS4235 sound card working againg after the upgrade fro Breeze to Dapper. Can anyboy help?11:48
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chetanhealot - i am not sure it just asks for  "Directory containing linux kernel source code"11:49
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Healotchetan: I can't be sure if you are not11:49
stefg!sound11:50
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems11:50
chetanhealot - i am installing the program from a tar.gz file from the terminal window11:50
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CardinalRCGood morning to you all I am new here and all of this11:50
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stefgso welcome11:51
fernandoubotu, I have already set alsa in the mm window. I am going to look at the address you pointed.11:51
ubotuI know nothing about I have already set alsa in the mm window. I am going to look at the address you pointed.11:51
Milky_Hi, I have a problem with NWN. When I try to create a new character on the expansions, I get an error message saying I have "unsufficient hard disk space", however, I have many,mnya GBs left. Apparently, this is an error that many have had, but after following the instructions on the forums, I still could not get it to work. Anyone had this problem?11:51
CardinalRCthank you11:51
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nauj27hi11:52
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MetaMorfoziS!ntfs11:53
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions11:53
MetaMorfoziS!linux-ntfs11:53
ubotuI know nothing about linux-ntfs11:53
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MetaMorfoziSi want to isntall the latest ntfsprogs11:53
MetaMorfoziSis tehre any howto?11:53
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chetanhealot - it says "You will require a copy of your current kernel headers to be installed. " in the instruction11:54
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Frogzoodapper has a quirk with running fglrx from laptop - when booting off batter, the powerstate never gets set - maybe what's needed is an acpi message to trigger fglrx-powermode.sh after the user has logged in11:55
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Healotchetan: install kernel headers then11:56
Healot!linux-headers11:56
ubotuI know nothing about linux-headers11:56
Healot!info linux-headers11:56
ubotuPackage linux-headers does not exist in dapper11:56
chetanhealot - how do i do that?11:56
Healot!info linux-386-headers11:56
ubotuPackage linux-386-headers does not exist in dapper11:56
Frogzoo!anything11:56
ubotuI know nothing about anything11:56
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Healot!find linux-38611:56
ubotuFound: linux-38611:56
Healot!find headers11:56
ubotuFound: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686 (and 33 others)11:56
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hunt0r!w32codecs11:57
ubotuw32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html11:57
fernandothe address you indicate for sound troubleshooting asks to send the command lspnp that does not exist11:58
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Nameeaterthe pnpbios-tools package may have it11:59
narfmasteranyone else play wormux?11:59
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narfmasterit seems like the repo version leaks a ton of memory12:00
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narfmasteri just compiled the 0.7.2 version, and it's a lot more stable in that respect12:01
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earHertzapt-get is driving me up the wall. What do I need to do to install libgtk?12:01
Nameeaterwell the repo version is 0.7.112:02
chetanhealot - i tried what u said but i keep getting for both !linux & !help even not found. i just need to find the directory where the kernel is located i think12:02
Madpilot!info libgtk12:02
ubotuPackage libgtk does not exist in dapper12:02
AdiumearHertz, sudo apt-get install libgtk2-dev <---try it12:02
NameeaterearHertz: which libgtk?12:02
Healotlinux-headers-386 << for 386 kernel12:02
Nameeateror that :)12:02
Healotlinux-headers-686 << for 686 kernel12:02
earHertzwell, gdb wnats 1.2, but I'll take what I can get.12:02
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stgraberAnyone here know if that's possible to have a different MAC address for eth0:0 than eth0 ? The idea is to assign the four ips address that my provider gave me but on only one physical interface. (I receive the ip address by DHCP)12:03
narfmasterNameeater, i thought it was "0.7-1"12:03
haakonn_how can i determine my laptop's current CPU frequency?12:03
chetanHealot - i have daper 6.06 installed so which kernel is mine?12:03
Healotchetan: install either one of those packages using you favorite installer12:03
Nameeaternarfmaster: whatever, I ment that :P12:03
windshearhi12:03
narfmasterheh :)12:03
earHertzClearly I'm not understanding apt-get; how is it you ( Adium ) know that I need 2-dev?12:03
Healotuname -r chetan, but default it's linux-38612:03
windsheari have a problem with my wlan12:03
windshearafter i updated my sytem + kernel it does not work any more12:03
windshearwhen i load the backup kernel it works12:03
windshearit is a restricted module that is necessary to make it work12:03
windshearhow can i select what modules get loaded during boot12:03
DarkMageZnarfmaster, it is noted in the offical changelogs that they fixed some memory leaks between version 0.7.1 & 0.7.212:03
Adiumchetan, uname -r in a terminal12:03
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earHertzHow do I tell apt-get I just want the lastest libgtk there is??12:03
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narfmasterthanks, DarkMageZ that explains it12:04
MadpilotearHertz, it'll install the latest that's in Ubuntu repos12:04
AdiumearHertz, open a terminal, then type man apt after that type sudo apt-get install libgtk2-dev12:04
chetanHealot - i got 2.6.15-25-38612:04
Nameeateris that going to help him if gdb want 1.2?12:04
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Adiumthat will install it for you12:05
Healotso it's 386, then install linux-headers-386 then///12:05
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earHertzMadpilot: when I do s sudo apt-get install libgtk, it just tells me it can't find that package12:05
Nameeaterdo the command Adium said12:05
AdiumearHertz, try the other one i gave you12:05
windshearanyone can help me with my problem about wlan driver?12:05
earHertzam I just supposed to know the curent version is 2?12:05
MadpilotearHertz, use Synaptic's handy search button12:05
earHertzAdium: No, I understand the answer to this problem. I want a general undertstanding. My biggest problem with linux right now is dependencies and trying to use apt-get, and it's really becoming a deal killer12:06
Madpilotlooks like you want "libgtk1.2" - the number is almost always part of the package name12:06
MadpilotearHertz, if you've got a GUI, use Synaptic - it's far easier than farting around with apt-get trying to guess package names12:07
earHertzYeah, but if I try to apt-get libgtk-1.2, it tell sme no package. Is my apt-get misconfigured?12:07
Adiumapt will install all dependencies for you :), the best way to learn apt is open a terminal and man apt12:07
Cydoniahi, does anyone here know anything about running Xen in ubuntu dapper?12:07
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S1ixxhey12:07
MadpilotearHertz, leave the dash out - you're misspelling the name12:07
Hawk|-hi, someone got some experience with usb headset? I am not able to get it working..12:07
Madpilotthere's also a libgtk2.0-0 - not sure which one you actually want...12:08
earHertzAdium: no, I realize it will install dependie sof teh ionstalling package.12:08
S1ixxhow do i login as root ?12:08
S1ixxfrom the login screen12:08
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Cydoniaslixx: sudo su12:08
AdiumearHertz, i dont follow the problem then?12:08
S1ixxfrom the login screen though12:08
llama32what's the channel for linux kernel/lowish level linux specific programming?12:08
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chetanHealot - once i have it installed what do i do?12:08
S1ixxi done sudo passwd12:08
earHertzubuntu-1:/home/ipodlinux/tools/armemu$ sudo apt-get install libgtk12:09
earHertzReading package lists... Done12:09
earHertzBuilding dependency tree... Done12:09
earHertzE: Couldn't find package libgtk12:09
Hawk|-got a dmesg for my usb device http://pastebin.de/837612:09
Healotthen, configure the directory, chetan12:09
Adiumopen the terminal and type this (correct package) sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev12:09
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S1ixxnow i want to login when the login screen is there12:09
chetanhealot- sorry i am very new to this....how do i do that?12:09
Healotit should be in /usr/src/linux* chetan12:09
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earHertzAdium: ok, but how do I know that I need to add the 2.0-dev?12:09
MadpilotS1ixx, why would you want to log in as root in the GUI? That's not recommended or safe...12:09
S1ixxi know its not reccomended12:09
earHertzOther than by asking you?12:10
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Adiumyou dont need to know, unless your compiling an application that requires the gtk headers12:10
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Adiumin which case thats the package youll want12:10
earHertzwhy doesn't apt-get tell me there's no libgtk, but offer me libgtk2.90-dev?12:10
nekostaranyone here actually know what shorten or shn codec is ?12:10
nekostarand if so what i can do to get ubuntu/xmms to play it ?12:10
CydoniaSlixx: CTRL + ALT + F3, login, then type 'sudo su'12:10
Adiumbecause theres other packages with "libgtk" and it dont know which you want12:11
S1ixxok12:11
Adiumbest way is to use synaptic :)12:11
Adiumtill your happy12:11
CydoniaSlixx: enter your password12:11
nekostar!paste12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:11
earHertzOk, ok, what's synaptic?12:11
nekostarsynaptic is a package manager12:11
Adiumits an easy to use frontend to apt12:11
nekostarvery nice very smart12:11
chetanhealot - thanks heaps12:11
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earHertzah, ok12:12
nekostarits more than just a front end to apt :)12:12
earHertzSo the answer is, I was using the wrong thing12:12
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CydoniaSlixx: then 'passwd' to create a password and a real root user12:12
gore_me likey enlightenment12:12
nekostarhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16932 <<--- my ./configure output :/ i need a c++ compiler it seems12:12
AdiumearHertz, no theres more then one way thats all apt is the prefered way for most experienced users12:13
earHertzI'm  sorry, it's just that it seems anytime I want to do something, I have to guess what package names to give to apt-get12:13
Adiumuse synaptic :)12:13
gore_damn I wish enlightenment worked better with gnome12:13
earHertzright, hgot ya12:13
S1ixxi have already made a root account12:13
CydoniaSlixx: you can then go back to X with ctrl + alt + F7, and login as root through gdm12:13
S1ixxi done sudo passwd12:13
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MadpilotS1ixx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo has info on logging in as root - and why it's a really bad idea...12:14
S1ixxok :)12:14
Cydoniadoes anybody here know anything about running Xen in ubuntu dapper?12:14
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HealotI run Zen as part of my life,12:15
Healotohm12:15
gore_anyone use enlightenment12:15
Cydoniahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine ?12:16
nekostargore_, ive used it y12:16
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CydoniaI want to set it up to tunnel all IP traffic through the virtual machine12:16
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Cydoniacan anyone help?12:16
Cydoniaplease?12:17
gore_just wondering how you liked it12:17
earHertzOh, I install libgtk2.0-dev. But gdb still wants libgtk-1.2.so12:17
gore_I'm thinking metacity is the way to go12:17
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gore_it looks good but I think I'm going to have some problems12:17
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S1ixxi done CTRL+ALT+F3 and done Passwd, set the passwd , and still cant login as root !12:17
A[D] minStar xfz amsn_dev.tar.gz12:17
A[D] minStar: msn/debian: time stamp 2006-07-01 10:20:08 is 1198972 s in the future12:17
A[D] minStar: msn/amsncore.tcl: time stamp 2006-06-28 20:21:00 is 975824 s in the future12:17
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AdiumearHertz, ok so sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev try that see what happens :)12:17
A[D] minSwhat is dat plz ?12:17
S1ixxit says i cant login as root from that screen12:17
Frogzooanyone know how to generate an acpi event - in this instance, when a user has completed gnome login?12:18
AdiumearHertz, what are you trying to install?12:18
MadpilotS1ixx, GDM - the login screen - is set up to prevent root login by default. You can override that somewhere, if you really feel you want to...12:18
earHertzAdium: I'm trying to run the gdb for the arm-elf toolchain12:18
Frogzoo!root > S1ixx12:18
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AdiumearHertz, sorry i dont know what that is?12:19
earHertzAdium: teh Gnu debugger for ARM machines (like ipods)12:19
Cydoniagnome debugger?12:19
earHertzAdium: ok, apt-get for libgtk1.2-dev worked, thanks12:19
Adiumyw12:20
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CydoniaI want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help?12:21
ubuntukandai??12:21
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earHertzI suppose part ofr my problem is this: when I used cygwin, I installed ALL packages12:21
earHertzis there a way I can just INSTALL every goddamn package in ubuntu?12:21
Healotyeah/// one by one?12:21
Adiumdunno, never tryed lol12:22
nekostarearHertz, no a lot of em conflict12:22
MadpilotearHertz, all 18,000+ of them?12:22
HealotearHertz: use debmirror12:22
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S1ixxwhere do you override the bit to enable logging in as root ?12:22
Healotand make sure you have more then 12 GB of free pace12:22
ubuntumnakoronniki ebanue/// za chto xoxolov sdelali??12:22
nekostarHealot, that only gives you a local repository i think12:22
earHertznekostar: yeah, I figured.12:22
nekostarearHertz, but you can sure as hell try :P12:22
Healotnekostar: local, and then you can install whatever you want12:22
nekostarlike he said one by one12:22
earHertzIt's just damned frustrating that I seem to spend more time apt-getting than beiing productive12:22
nekostarand then you will have a system thats broken :P12:22
Healotpossible but crazy idea :-12:23
ubuntufucking itali///its xoxol12:23
earHertzHealot: I set up ubunto with 20GB12:23
nekostarthen imagine all the things you might wanna do12:23
narfmasterSlixx, in the System > Admin > Login Window12:23
nekostarand install anything you can google about for just that12:23
nekostar:)12:23
HealotearHertz: so you can make a good local repos12:23
Healotand archive it on a tape or something...12:23
nekostarthough a local mirror is not a bad idea tbh12:23
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ubuntuxoxolu forever12:23
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S1ixxthanks narfmaster12:24
Seveasmornin'12:24
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narfmasteryou're welcome12:24
S1ixx:)12:24
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earHertzHealot: not a bad iddea12:24
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Madpilothi Seveas - nothing like a little bannination to start the day ;)12:24
Adiumlol12:25
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SeveasMadpilot, it was just a kick12:25
CydoniaI want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help? please, pretty please? :P12:25
Seveasstill warming up12:25
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Madpilotheh12:25
Adiumrofl12:25
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HealotearHertz: what's your connection bandwidth?12:25
earHertzcable12:25
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Healotcool... then it's like 12-14 hours of downloading...12:25
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earHertzI just like having everything, so I don't have to look for it12:26
Healotnever experiment a local mirror yet... except for debian before...12:26
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LynoureearHertz: Good luck. Remember to document it online somewhere. It's quite an interesting goal and I wonder how you are going to get over the conflicting packages :)12:27
gore_god I want gnome too look good12:27
gore_but I just cna't manage to have the gdesklets to work out well along side it12:28
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earHertzLynoure: yeah, I'm sure you're right12:28
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gore_has anyone fooled around with gdesklets? specifically the starterbar12:28
rem_Hey...my sda drive (usb mem stick) went away after distupgrade...how can I get it back .. ? I guess modprobe the module...but which module ... ?12:28
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KenSentMeI'm looking for a person on irc.freenode.org. Is there a way to see in which channel he or she is? It's about Ubuntu, but he's not in this channel12:29
dooglusKenSentMe: /whois nick12:30
Adium.../whois nick12:30
gore_yah if you know their nick just /msg nick12:30
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dooglusmust be registered for /msg to work12:30
KenSentMedooglus: thanks12:30
gore_oh I hate those servers12:30
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gore_such a severe pain in the ass12:31
dooglusgore_: I think you must be doing something wrong if it's hurting your bottom12:31
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gore_you register, wait for the email, confirm it, get on the server.  never return to the server for months then need to get on again, forgot your password.. rinse and repeat12:32
rem_..I guess its usb-storage ..which is loaded but still no sda drive .. (12:32
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dooglusno, just register.  no email or confirmation required12:32
Madpilotgore_, Freenode doesn't need an email to register12:32
Madpilotubotu, tell gore_ about register12:32
dooglus/msg nickserv register pa$$word12:32
narfmasteryou need an email for vhost12:33
gore_wait are we on freenode?12:33
dooglusduh12:33
Madpilotgore_, we are12:33
gore_haha12:33
gore_xchat in ubuntu automatically joins me to this channel, and connects me to this server12:33
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gore_plus I only really go on irc for problems12:33
narfmasterUbuntu Servers = FreeNode12:33
gore_and maybe answering an easy one here or there12:33
Frogzooany way to get access to extended unicode keys, like  & , from the standard keyboard layout, without switching to dead keys?12:34
AdiumI nearly live on irc on six servers, 12 channels incl my own server12:34
gore_Adium, you're an addict =P12:35
Adium;p12:35
gore_I used to irc a ton12:35
gore_annnyways anyone familiar with startbar gdesklet?12:35
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weakwirehi how can i make an application to start up with gnome? ? help please12:37
earHertzyes!12:37
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earHertzThanks for your help, Adium & Healot12:37
chetanHealot - sorry to bother u again but everytime i try to install the client in the terminal i get "Making module12:37
chetan./driver_build.sh: line 50: make: command not foundFailed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko"."12:37
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Adiumyw earHertz12:37
Seveasweakwire, system  preferences  session  add it to startup programs12:37
dooglusweakwire: ~/.gnomerc gets run when you start gnome; and ~/.xprofile gets run when you use gdm to log in; pick either of them12:37
weakwirethank you both12:38
Healotchetan: you are compiling then12:38
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Healot!info build-essential12:38
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB12:38
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Healotinstall build-essential to get your compiler and make tool, chetan12:38
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gore_yah why doesn't gnome come with essential stuff to compile source files12:40
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gore_I would think that would be a must by default12:40
Seveasgore_, because 90+% of the people never compile12:40
Healotgore_: ubuntu's policy?12:40
AdiumHas any one got any ideas how to play a .mng mplayer dont seem to know what todo with it12:41
dooglus gore_ ubuntu is a desktop system for regular users.  compiling stuff isn't something most people will ever want to do12:41
Healotoh i remember the popularity-contest12:41
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gore_make | make install | make clean12:41
gore_=P12:41
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gore_simple even for a newby12:41
Healotyeah12:41
dooglusgore_: better to use '&&' instead of '|' there12:41
Adiumyea till they get an error ;p] 12:41
Healotbut the toolchain isn't there bydefault12:41
Adium;p *12:41
gore_dooglus, I'd just do them on seperate lines12:41
dsasgore_: Better to also use checkinstall rather than make install12:42
gore_never heard of that12:42
gore_I've been using linux off and on for years12:42
Seveassee, not that easy to compile properly...12:42
gore_I've found just recently through ubuntu that I can switch off winxp almost completely12:42
dooglusgore_: "sudo checkinstall" is nice - it does a 'make install' while watching what gets installed, then makes a package from the results.  so you can undo it, or share the package12:42
gore_ooo I like that12:43
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dooglusgore_: recent versions have been buggy in ubuntu, but there's a new maintainer now, so hopefully it'll get sorted out soon12:43
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gore_oh I have a question regarding updatedb12:44
dooglusshoot12:44
gore_is there a way to make it ignore a drive completely12:44
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dooglusgore_: sure12:44
gore_I dont want to umount it12:44
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dooglusplease wait while I RTFM for you ;)12:44
gore_haha sorry12:44
Adiumlol12:44
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Frogzoogore_:  /etc/updatedb.conf12:44
dibblegowhat do I need in /etc/apt/sources.list to get xmms-mp4?12:45
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chetanHealot - after installing build-essential i get this "WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25/Module.symvers12:45
chetan           is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions."12:45
Madpilot!info xmms-mp412:45
ubotuxmms-mp4: a mp4/aac audio player for xmms. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 128 kB12:45
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Madpilotdibblego, multiverse12:45
dooglusinteresting that the updatedb man page doesn't mention updatedb.conf12:45
chetanHealot - after i run the complier12:45
dibblegoMadpilot, I'm sure I have that12:45
gore_oh sweet12:46
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gore_it already excludes my mounted drives12:46
gore_well the whole /media folder12:46
gore_=] 12:46
Healotchetan: does it stop you from compiling?12:46
Madpilotdibblego, double check - sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (or $text-editor-of-your-choice) ;)12:46
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dibblegoactually, I only have deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse12:47
dibblegowhich line is multiverse?12:47
chetanHealot - no i just comes up with a list of errors saying in the end "Failed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko"."12:47
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Madpilotdibblego, you need multiverse on any line that has universe in it, basically, not just the backports12:47
robodhello12:48
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dibblegodeb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe12:48
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fortran01how much space does xubuntu take with the default install?12:48
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dragoshello12:49
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Madpilotdibblego, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for a full sources.list12:50
dibblegook ta12:50
gore_about 50 people in #gnome but noone responds12:50
gore_ugh12:50
dragosppls..how can I listen to .mp3 files on my ubuntu12:50
dibblegowhat's the difference between universe and multiverse?12:50
dragosI've just installed12:50
dibblegodragos, I use xmms12:50
dragosand I can listen only wav12:51
dragosthanks12:51
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dragosI tryed with amarok and juk12:51
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Madpilotubotu, tell dragos about mp312:52
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snoopsisn't amarok just awesome dragos? :)12:52
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Madpilotdragos, see the PM you just got from ubotu12:52
krinnshi all12:52
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snoopsI installed 64bit ubuntu, and because of the shortcomings I would like to use the 32bit version for awhile.. is there a way to switch down to that while retaining my settings?12:53
Schalke1i need rhythmbox 0.9.5, but the version in the repos is 0.9.3. how can I get 0.9.5 and is there a way to add it to the repos for everyone else?12:53
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dragosMadpilot, how can I switch between dialog chats in BitchX?:D12:53
Frogzoo!amarok > dragos12:53
Frogzoo!restricted > dragos12:53
Madpilotdragos, no idea - install XChat instead :)12:53
dragosokey:)12:53
dibblegoMadpilot, cheers, xmms-mp4 is working12:54
Madpilotdragos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats is the URL you want, anyway12:54
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dragosyeap, thanks12:54
dragosI got the info12:54
dragosI'll bookmark those12:54
onispawnanyone have a suggestion on a way to record the screen to make demos?12:55
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snoopsonispawn xvidcap12:55
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snoopsyou can also use vlc to record the screen12:55
onispawnsnoops: thanks12:56
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Frogzooonispawn: -> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20screen%20movie12:56
johlinI hate the volume control in gnome. For me, when I'm listening in Rhytmbox, when it's at 100% the sound just sounds bad, lacks midrange and treble and when it's at 0% there is still sound, just a little lower and the quality is better. Why is that?12:56
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Madpilotnight, all12:57
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Pitersburgsjohlin: set main sound for GNOME to 80%, and regulate then RM volume as you want12:58
Pitersburgs80% of PCM volume is most optimal volume, also in Windows12:58
PitersburgsRB volume is mostly for just making things a relatively louder or vice versa12:59
johlinPitersburgs: Yeah I know, but it's annoying when I have other applications open with sound (movie player for example)12:59
johlinI want it to control the main volume, as it's supposed to12:59
Pitersburgsnop12:59
Pitersburgsmain volume is main volume12:59
Pitersburgseach of apps has it's own volume01:00
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PitersburgsTotem, RB, mplayer, etc.01:00
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Pitersburgsit is relative to main volume01:00
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boobekhi01:00
Pitersburgsso you can mix sources01:00
johlinSo what does the gnome volume control do?01:00
Pitersburgsjohlin: regulates main volume and other volumes of sound card01:01
PitersburgsRB volume regulator regulates *RB* volume, not main01:01
Pitersburgsso01:01
Pitersburgsyou for example01:01
Pitersburgswhen you get call from Skype01:01
Pitersburgsyou can tune down RB01:01
Pitersburgsbut system volume will stay the same01:01
johlinBut when I press the volume buttons on my keyboard, that should be the main volume right?01:01
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ueper... accident heh01:02
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Pitersburgsjohlin: yes01:03
johlinPitersburgs: but it doesn't, when it's at 0% I can still hear rhytmbox clearly (even though the sound quality sucks)01:04
Pitersburgsjohlin: wait a sec...you use your laptop/desktop keyboard keys to tune main volume up/down.01:05
Pitersburgsfirst of all, check it is it really main volume01:05
Frogzoojohlin: as far as I can tell, it's a bug...01:05
dragosheh..great!..xmms is quite close as functionality to winamp01:05
dragosfinaly something familiar:D01:05
snoopsuhh but xmms is shocking! The dialogs.. ugh01:05
Frogzoodragos: but amarok is much nicer01:05
dragosI have amarok, but I can't play .mp3 files01:06
Pitersburgsit is still a bloody media player, what there is so nicer/uglier01:06
Pitersburgs:)01:06
Frogzoodragos: read the pms you got01:06
johlinPitersburgs: How do I check? Those buttons are selected as volume up/down in gnome keyboard shortcut settings, is that all?01:06
dragosokey01:06
snoops!restricted > dragos01:06
johlinFrogzoo: so should I report it somewhere?01:06
uepgoogle's summer of code is working on an xmms2... maybe that'll be the ticket01:06
Frogzoojohlin: I think the devs know already ;)01:06
Pitersburgsjohlin: take a look upper corner right, where is that sound volume applet01:06
snoopsdragos you'll need to get those restricted formats installed to use them in amarok01:06
Pitersburgsclick a right button on it01:06
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Pitersburgsget Prefernces01:06
Pitersburgsand check out what is regulated by main volume01:07
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LaibschI would like to have a remote printer shared via cups discovery set as default printer.  Trying to configure it via the web interface redirects me from the remote IP (non-SSL) to the hostname (SSL).  The latter page is never loaded and times out eventually.01:07
LaibschHow can I set the remote printer as default.  What is wrong in the configs?01:07
Pitersburgsuep: xmms2 almost is the same as bmp, which is already aviable01:07
FrogzooPitersburgs: there's the user interface, sound quality ...01:07
johlinPitersburgs: yes, main volume was selected, and my soundcard (SB Live, ALSA) was selected.01:07
gore_ok check this weird problem, when I have no audio programs open, and I crank my sound to the max, my its making a bass sound01:07
LaibschPitersburgs: I think you are not correct.  The code base is totally different, the concept is too.01:08
Frogzoogore_: AC hum01:08
gore_you think?01:08
gore_should I put one of those magnet things on it?01:08
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reikigore_: a ferrite?01:09
Frogzoogore_: only thing that will help is shielding & better audio gear01:09
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gore_yah the cable is pretty old01:09
gore_and so is the computer01:09
reikidon't crank to max with nothing playing01:09
Frogzoogore_: plus the PSU leaks AC as well01:09
reikiif I crank to max I'll rattle all the harware out of my desk :)01:10
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snoopsI installed 64bit ubuntu, and because of the shortcomings I would like to use the 32bit version for awhile.. is there a way to switch down to that while retaining my settings?01:10
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gore_psu?01:10
gore_powersupply?01:10
Frogzoopower supply unit01:10
reikiyes01:10
LaibschI think I found the solution for my remote printing problem.  Seems to be a bug in CUPS discovered recently.  http://www.cups.org/str.php?L1788+P0+S-2+C0+I0+E0+Qremote01:11
reikianyone using Asus P5LD2 Pro or Gigabyte GA-8I945P Pro I'd like to talk off-topic please01:11
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RQhi.01:12
RQso what do i do if dapper doesn't print to an USB printer?01:12
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RQanyone alive?01:13
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uepgive it a second ;-)01:13
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reikiyup... I'm alive today01:13
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gore_yah reiki is01:13
dragosE: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate01:14
gore_even though he's violated01:14
snoopsso uhh gosh, no one knows? :(01:14
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seth1248Could anyone help me troubleshoot nfs ? I keep getting permission denied error.01:14
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RQ:)01:14
reikisnoops: I don't know for sure, but I think you can not downgrade as you describe01:14
gore_I doubt it snoops, but I'm no expert01:14
gore_snoops I'd recommend just saving your cfg files and such01:15
jrib!info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg01:15
ubotugstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1316 kB, installed size 3176 kB01:15
RQreiki, so considering that you're alive, have you heard of people having trouble printing to USB printers?01:15
snoopsI guess I could just take my user profile and a few files from /etc but still.. not fun01:15
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jribdragos: have you enabled the universe repository?01:15
reikiRQ: you question is a bit vague. Could be as simple as "plug it in" . We have no idea what you've got, what errors (if any)... please elaborate01:15
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RQreiki, it's plugged in, it's detected, it doesn't print the job01:16
StardogHow the H....LL am i supposed to install the ATI drivers on my dapper drake? the official how to doesn't work. neither method 1 nor method 201:16
RQit says "printing" though01:16
reikiRQ: is the job in the que?01:16
Kristan_uk2hi all i just received my ubuntu cd in the post01:16
gore_Stardog, I'm pretty sure there is a good write up on the ubuntu forums01:16
RQreiki, it was until i canceled it01:16
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gore_I think I might order the ubuntu cd just so I can get an official copy01:17
gore_=d01:17
reiki!printing01:17
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows01:17
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Kristan_uk2i can run ubuntu from the cd however when i try to install, after selecting language it freezes and does nothing01:17
slonchohi. someone using dapper/mplayer/cyrillic (cp1251) subs?01:17
RQreiki, the drivers are installed01:18
jribStardog: did you try the wiki instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:18
RQreiki, I actually had the printer to print half of the ubuntu testpage01:18
reikiRQ: I had to fiddle with something in usb port setting... can't remember exactly... but it had to do with what it was NAMED ...01:18
RQbut nothing more.01:18
gore_could be a problem with the cd Kristan_uk2 , have you tried d/ling the iso's from the website?01:18
slonchoi can not make it work, as it did under suse01:18
Kristan_uk2im trying to install over XP on my laptop 930mhz with 256ram 20gb hdd01:18
reikiRQ: half a test page?01:18
Stardogjrib: yes i did....01:18
RQyup01:18
gore_Kristan_uk2, try d/ling and burning the iso's from the webpage01:18
gore_that is if you have a connection better than dialup01:19
Kristan_uk2no not downloaded as only got dial-up internet01:19
slonchosame file, same settings, same font ... suse is OK, dapper displays ... ????01:19
Stardogjrib: i've read on the forums that there's a lot tha have exactly the same problem... but i've never figured out whats wrong :/01:19
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RQsloncho, what font is it ?01:19
dliKristan_uk2, I installed from cd, and upgraded with dialup01:19
gore_Kristan_uk2, how long did you wait for it to continue have it locked01:19
divineomegawhere is the source.list repositary file found?01:19
RQdivineomega, /etc/apt01:20
gore_where are you guys that you are using dialup?01:20
reikiRQ: have you tried removing the printer and then adding a printer again?01:20
RQreiki, not yet01:20
divineomegaRQ, thanks01:20
Kristan_uk2i waited 30mins after selecting language01:20
dliKristan_uk2, however, it's dial-up, very likely, you have buy a supported modem01:20
slonchoRQ: tried hebar (its bulgarian font, ttf, but not unicode). tried arial as well01:20
RQdivineomega, np01:20
RQhmm01:20
RQsloncho, do you *have* arial?01:20
slonchoRQ: yes I do01:20
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reikiRQ: I had to do that when I was messing with TurboPrint drivers and cups was messed up. I buggered something and remove and re-add fixed it. Also... if you can.. try a different USB port01:21
RQreiki, i can i can...01:21
RQreiki, the thing is that same stuff happens for my mom with a totally different printer and another computer with dapper ;)01:21
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gore_you are making yoru mom use dapper? you cruel cruel man01:22
gore_hehe01:22
Kristan_uk2so any idea's what to do other than spending hours downloading the iso's01:22
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RQgore_, :D01:22
reikiRQ: the printer stops working? I know for a while before release there were problems with cups, but it appears to be all fixed now. I have a USB Epson R200 and I can even print directly on printable CDs now01:22
RQgore_, at least spyware  and viruses is not a problem ;)01:22
gore_kristan try picking another language maybe01:23
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gore_then switch it back later01:23
atlantianhello all01:23
gore_yah RQ01:23
gore_but things like flash might trip her up01:23
gore_I know they trip me up01:23
RQah01:23
gore_very annoying01:23
RQshe doesn't care about flash ;)01:23
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gore_yah but some website rely on the newest version of flash01:23
dliKristan_uk2, you may supply options to kernel at booting01:23
gore_which is a problem01:23
robodhello people01:23
reikigore:  I now do... new Dapper install.... then get easyubuntu... done01:23
robodi am trying to install Xgl01:23
RQgore_, she has flash, i think.01:24
atlantianHere is my question today :P, I try to do SU in terminal, try to login as root,  and it always says wrong password or wrong username, and yet when i need to run things like username and it asks for password it works no problem, I cant mount an external drive because I need to be root also, but it will not let me in as root.. What is going on?01:24
robodeverything when smooth up until running:01:24
gore_yah but the newest version of linux flash isn't the newest version of flash01:24
gore_so its a pain01:24
jrib!root > atlantian01:24
robodcompiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher water &01:24
gore_their linux dev team sucks =P01:24
reikiatlantian: use sudo01:24
[1] billatlantian, use sudo instead.  (sudo mount ....)01:24
Kristan_uk2what options at kernel?01:24
robodwhich returned the error:01:24
robodcompiz.real: No composite extension01:24
robodwhat's wrong?01:24
RQatlantian, use sudo01:25
gore_atlantian, if you want to log in as root01:25
sloncho!root01:25
Kristan_uk2if i install in a different language i wont understand anything then01:25
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:25
gore_sudo passwd root01:25
robodi did not restart the system, i just killed X01:25
gore_then set the password01:25
RQor sudo -s01:25
RQwhich is quite the same as su01:25
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gore_su is better than sudo when you need to do multiple things01:25
dlikrinns, can you try english?01:26
gore_better then having to type sudo then your password everytime01:26
[1] billsudo bash if you want a root shell01:26
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jribgore_: it's the same as 'sudo -i'01:26
jrib"same"01:26
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krinnsyes dli01:26
gore_cool01:26
slonchogore_: if u do multiple things, u do them fast enough not to need to enter password01:26
Stardogum.... so.... anyone got any idea to my problem?01:26
gore_never saw sudo -i01:26
RQjrib, or sudo -s01:26
slonchoand if u are not fast enough, then u do not need su :)01:27
atlantianwell how come it let me do it when updating etc01:27
atlantianwasnt that root?01:27
RQreiki, readding the printer wouldn't help01:27
dlikrinns, sorry, wrong nick01:27
jribRQ: well sudo -i will reset the environment variables, so it's usually preferred.  sudo -i is like su - and sudo -s seems to be like just su01:27
slonchoatlantian - read the link above. sudo enables u to exec a command as root01:27
sloncho!root01:27
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.01:27
RQjrib, ah, ok01:27
RQ:)01:27
reikiRQ: sorry... that's about as far as I can help this morning01:27
atlantianyeah i set password01:27
dliKristan_uk2, try, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/3699801:28
atlantianand now i can go into terminal as root01:28
RQreiki, i guess i have to REBOOT01:28
RQdamn01:28
atlantianwhen putting su01:28
atlantianthanks01:28
Kristan_uk2so is that the only advice, download isos from internet and try again01:28
dliKristan_uk2, can you try another CD?01:28
gore_atlantian, look wat what they said, you can use sudo -i , and use your current user password vs using su01:28
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gore_kristan you might be able to switch to the terminals to see if you see any error messages01:29
gore_ctrl+alt+f1 through f601:29
gore_does anyone here use starterbar?01:30
slonchoKristan_uk2: did you verify the cd?01:30
atlantianhow do you mount the external again, I tried sudo mount sdc1 in console (yeah i am new to this sorry ) :)01:30
jribatlantian: what filesystem?01:31
gore_mount /dev/sdcl /thedirectory01:31
slonchoKristan_uk2: or you can start "server" instalation - text mode only, and later add the desktop01:31
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Kristan_uk2no i just booted the cd and then double clicked install01:31
atlantianpitty you cant right click the drive and click run as root01:31
jribatlantian: why would you want to do that?01:32
gore_how do you check whats mounted01:32
slonchoKristan_uk2: u booted, or you loaded the cd while running winboze?01:32
jribgore_: mount01:32
RQreiki, i can paste you the stuff from CUPS error_log ;)01:32
gore_is it in /etc/fstab?01:32
slonchogore_: mount w/o any option01:32
atlantianjrib easier than doing it via console01:32
gore_gotcha01:32
gore_what is fstab exactly?01:32
reikiRQ: probably wouldn't help me much. I am not a guru :)01:32
atlantianterminal should i say01:32
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RQgore_, it's a file defining your filesystem mountpoints01:33
jribatlantian: have you seen system > administration > disks01:33
atlantianwrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,01:33
atlantian       missing codepage or other error01:33
atlantian       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try01:33
atlantian       dmesg | tail  or so01:33
slonchogore_: the file which describes which filesystems mount where on boot01:33
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gore_gotcha01:33
RQgore_, /etc/fstab01:33
Kristan_uk2yeah i started laptop and changed to boot from cd.....ran the live cd and then double clicked the install icon on the desktop01:33
slonchogore_: man fstab01:33
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RQKristan_uk2, and?01:33
zero-1how can i install nvidia drivers dor kernel 2.6.15 ?01:33
gore_yah sorry I'm not using my man pages enough01:33
jrib!nvidia > zero-101:34
Kristan_uk2it starts the install i click forward with english language selected and then it doesnt go any further it just freezes01:34
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jribKristan_uk2: did you burn this disk yourself?01:34
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Kristan_uk2no i requested it off ubuntu site and it arrived this morning01:35
atlantianso external drives and usb drives do not run on linux unless allowed by root?01:35
slonchoKristan_uk2: ok, boot again from the cd, but when it displays the menu after the boot ("Start and install, etc, etc), select to change options, delete everything from the line and type only "linux server" no quotes01:35
atlantianthat is nice01:35
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dliKristan_uk2, and all CDs behavior this way?01:35
slonchoKristan_uk2: this will start text install01:35
jribKristan_uk2: have you tried others in the pack? sometimes there are burn problems.  Other than that, I would try the alternate install cd01:35
Kristan_uk2there is only the one cd in the pack01:36
Kristan_uk2is there a way i can install this alongside windows01:36
slonchoKristan_uk2: when it is done and you boot in ubuntu, login and type: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop01:36
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slonchoKristan_uk2: yes, the partitioner will ask you ...01:36
jribsloncho: ubuntu-desktop I think01:36
atlantianjrib this sounds very basic, but once  your in disks how do i open them?01:37
Kristan_uk2so i will be able to switch which OS i want to use01:37
slonchojrib: yeah, maybe, I started with xubuntu :)01:37
slonchoKristan_uk2: yes - on boot01:37
jribatlantian: well that lets you mount them.  Then anyone with proper permissions can view them.  What filesystem do the disks use?01:37
slonchoKristan_uk2: before you go further - read the docs for dual boot01:38
jribatlantian: they should get mounted in /media/*01:38
atlantianfat01:38
Kristan_uk2where can i find the dual boot doc?01:38
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ubotuDual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot01:39
atlantianjrib status is inaccesible and when i click enable, nothing happens01:39
bimberiKristan_uk2: there ^^^^^^^^^01:39
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Kristan_uk2how will i get everything on laptop to work with ubuntu, like modem and connecting to internet?01:40
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jribatlantian: ok, with fat, it doesn't allow you to set unix style permissions.  So, you have to modify the permissions linux gives it when it gets mounted.  The easiest way to do this is to just setup a line in fstab with the proper permissions01:40
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jrib!fstab > atlantian01:41
jrib!vfat > atlantian01:41
atlantianthanks01:41
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atlantian!fstab01:41
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions01:41
PolypterusHi. I've got a problem with Azureus. It says "DHT stopped by firewall". How do I fix that?01:41
atlantiancan you get a windows d key and ctrl alt delete addon for ubuntu im sure you could for fedora?01:41
bimberiKristan_uk2: laptop modems can be problematic as they're usually 'winmodems'01:42
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bbrazilatlantian: doable, not sure how though01:42
bimberi!modem01:42
ubotuYou want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto01:42
jribatlantian: sure, it's not that straight forward though01:42
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atlantianits a good job i have dual boot and can go back to windows if need be01:43
lsuactiafnerk, i want to install windows xp using wine, onto another disk, dont want to reboot my pc.. anyone know how or have a link?01:43
Kristan_uk2BIMBERI so is it worth me installing ubuntu if its going to be a pain?01:44
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A[D] minSlsuactiafner:  u can use vmware01:44
A[D] minSnot wine01:44
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jribatlantian: you have to run 'gconf-editor' and setup keybinding_commands and global_keybinds in the '/apps/metacity' keys.  To combine the window key with other stuff you have to set it up like '<mod4>d' or whatever the 'xmodmap' returns for the windows key instead of 'mod4'.  That's probably not all that clear, just ask :)01:44
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sven-tekare there post-release images available that are updated with the updates afterwards? where?01:45
atlantianthanks01:46
morrolannot as far as I'm aware sven-tek01:46
lsuactiafnerA[D] minS, 64bit machines can run vmware?01:46
bimberiKristan_uk2: i'm really struggling to answer that.  For me it would be worth it.  For you I can't know.01:46
Kristan_uk2ok i guess not to bother thanks anyway01:46
lsuactiafneris it just me or does tyra raid thing sound like she has something stuck in her throat?01:46
A[D] minSlsuactiafner: google01:46
Kristan_uk2bimberi: ok what are the advantages of ubuntu over XP on a latop?01:47
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pppoe_dudeKristan_uk2, same advantages as on a desktop01:47
hawkaloogieit's not XP?01:47
morrolanKristan_uk2: it works better?01:48
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morrolanI'm running Dapper on a laptop, no dual boot01:48
sven-tekmorrolan, i bother handing out CD's to my friends that needs to download hundrets of megabytes one month after it had been released.01:48
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pppoe_dudeKristan_uk2, it is worth installing linux even though it might be painful at first... in a week or so your computer would be running tip-top01:48
goriiI've been at it for a week01:49
morrolansven-tek, I know it sucks, but I think the only different versions you can download are the Beta's and the final.01:49
goriiand still finding things a bit of a pain01:49
gorii=P01:49
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morrolangorii, persevere!01:49
goriihaha I know, but its the little things that make me mad01:49
Kristan_uk2pppoe-dude: even as a dual boot?01:50
bimberiKristan_uk2: not constrained by software licenses, easy install of thousands of other packages, ability to give anyone a copy who asks guilt-free :)01:50
pppoe_dudegorii, yes, but first week usually the system becomes personalized enough... it takes more than a week to get used to linux obviously :-01:50
goriilike the crappy flash support and inability to play quicktime01:50
morrolangorii, what are the niggles you hate?01:50
morrolangorii, I can play flash fine, and I have quicktime support?01:50
pppoe_dudegorii, in a few you'll learn to stop going to flash sites and stop using quicktime :-01:50
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goriihaha, I dont want to ignore the problems I want to fix them01:51
morrolanpppoe_dude: thats the problem - people see linux as limited, when it shouldn't be01:51
bimberiKristan_uk2: yes, it seems you're having an 'initial hurdle' experience.  If you persist and get over it i'm sure you'll find the experience worthwhile01:51
dligorii, I heard the current dapper release is buggy01:51
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robodhello01:51
robodi have added some app to gnome session01:51
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robodwhich ... unfortunately crash gnome when they start01:51
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pppoe_dudegorii, did u install flashplugin-nonfree and 'w32codecs' for xine/mplayer?01:51
Kristan_uk2does linux run faster than windows? will i be an easy target for hackers?01:51
robodi need to manually remove the apps01:51
pppoe_dudethat should fix things01:51
robodwhere's the file located?01:52
pulverKristan_uk2, depends01:52
goriiwhat non-free?01:52
pppoe_dudeKristan_uk2, depends and no01:52
bimberiKristan_uk2: frequently and no01:52
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dlirobod, by gnome-session-properties or ~/.gnome2/session ?01:52
goriishould it be in synaptic?01:52
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Kristan_uk2why depends?......what stops hack attacks?01:52
roboddli: i did add via preferences > sessions01:52
pppoe_dudeubotu tell gorii about restricted01:52
finalbetagorii, yes, multiverse I think01:52
morrolangorii, yes if you have updateds your repository list01:52
bimberiKristan_uk2: you will spend a lot less time (ie. none) worrying about viruses and spyware01:52
roboddli: i suppose gnome-session-properties01:52
dlirobod, then, run gnome-session-properties01:53
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finalbeta!resticted01:53
ubotuI know nothing about resticted01:53
bimberiKristan_uk2: depends was in answer to 'faster than windows'01:53
roboddli: thing is, i can't run it ... i'm not able to start gnome01:53
morrolangorii, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper01:53
finalbeta!restricted01:53
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:53
morphixXGL works with xfce aswell doesnt it? and if so,, how do i use it.. as in.. how do i start it up.01:53
finalbetagorii, ^ follow that url for w32codecs01:53
bimberi!ubuntuguide01:53
ubotuubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead01:53
Kristan_uk2will i still be able to connect to the internet with my laptop modem and orange dial-up?01:54
schmakkare there any specific reason that sound in linux has a way higher output level compared to windows?01:54
roboddli: any suggestions?01:54
pulverwhat photo management application do you prefer?01:54
morrolanubotu - they've released a new Dapper guide...01:54
ubotuI know nothing about they've released a new Dapper guide...01:54
pppoe_dudemorrolan, ubotu is a bot :-01:54
morrolanoh01:55
morrolandoh! (_8{] }01:55
pppoe_dudeubotu tell morrolan about ubotu01:55
morrolanWell, it's a wront bot01:55
dlirobod, run gnome-session-properties and remove your changes01:55
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roboddli: does gnome-session-properties *work* without X?01:55
roboddli: did you get my question?01:55
dlirobod, you should run gnome-fail-safe01:56
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pulverKristan_uk2, test with a livecd01:56
roboddli: i need to *manually* edit the file01:56
robodaha01:56
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roboddli: how to run gnome-fail-safe?01:56
bimberiKristan_uk2: sorry, no yes/no answer to that, you will have to find out if your modem hardware has linux support.  The links to the wiki from earlier will help with that01:56
dlirobod, select your session in gdm before login01:56
bimberiKristan_uk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto01:56
morrolangorii: if you follow the url http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper , it lists all repositories for free and non-free packages, and it has a HUGE list of issues and very easy solutions to deal with them in plain english01:56
morrolanit's essential01:57
Kristan_uk2but i dont know what make or model my modem is01:57
roboddli: the gnome fail safe is not listed in gdm01:57
dliKristan_uk2, which laptop model?01:57
Kristan_uk2hp pavilion n547201:57
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JeevesBondHi all. Am finding that I can only get read access to a samba share unless I have root privileges. Is there a way to change this?01:57
Kristan_uk2i cant get access to bios as password protected and hp wont give me it01:58
dlirobod, stupid ubuntu, Ctl-Alt-F1, login, rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*01:58
finalbetaAnyone got sound to work on a TV card using alsa "arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay -" I'm getting delay and sync problems. Changed to OSS, but then I ain't got sound control.01:58
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JeevesBondAnyone, any ideas?01:59
morrolanKristan_uk2: in that case, sue hp.  You own themachine, they cannot deny you the BIOS password01:59
enycmeep01:59
roboddli: i have found the gnome-fail-safe01:59
roboddli: still won't work :)02:00
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phrizerKristan_uk2, tried taking the battery out? ;x02:00
goriirobod do you know the program you added that is crashing it?02:00
Kristan_uk2because i dont have the receipt (was a xmas present) they wont give me any help or support had this trouble for a couple of years now as i want to enable irda port02:00
robodgorii: yess02:00
goriiwhat was it?02:00
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robodgorii: compiz stuff :P02:01
morrolanKristan_uk2: have you tried www.linux-laptop.net?02:01
Kristan_uk2cant find the bios battery or switch as there are loads in there and cant find help on internet02:01
JeevesBondKristan_uk2 surely if it's a default password you could just Google for it? Or is that too stupid an answer?02:01
Kristan_uk2tried google but nothing works i tried over 40 default passwords02:02
Kristan_uk2will look there morrolan02:02
goriioh02:02
morrolanKristan_uk2: that url lists all hints and tips for getting linux working on a huge array of notebooks and laptops.  mI used it for help with my Toshiba02:02
goriithen its xgl02:02
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JeevesBondBlimey!02:02
goriiperhaps02:02
goriiuninstall xgl02:02
Kristan_uk2thanks02:02
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morrolanKristan_uk2 you're most welcome :)02:02
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DjDarkmanhy ,how can I restart alsa?02:03
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Kristan_uk2found my laptop says REDHAT7.2 next to it02:03
goriimorrolan, do you have the newest flash installed?02:03
schmakkcan someone link me a place where i can read about the differences between alsa, oss and esound? i want to know how sound works with linux02:03
finalbetaschmakk, I'll second that :p02:03
morrolangorii: I only installed it a few days ago, so I hope so!02:03
goriihttp://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm02:04
sarahHELP. Where can I find IE?... I'm trying to acces a website and it's not compatible with firefox.02:04
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goriitry that page seeif you can see the text in the buttons02:04
gorii=P02:04
JeevesBondWill just try my question again: Am finding that I can only get read access to a samba share unless I have root privileges. Is there a way to change this?02:04
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Kristan_uk2page cant be displayed for my laptop02:04
finalbetasarah, lol, IE is windows.02:04
morrolansarah: you won't get IE - but look at the Extensions available for Firefox, and there is one which emulates IE02:04
JeevesBondsarag: IE is a microsoft program02:04
sarah-is new to this thing-02:04
gorii!quicktime02:04
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:04
morrolansarah: don't worry, we all were at some point02:05
DjDarkmansarah: look for a plugin in firefox02:05
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Kristan_uk2morrolan: the page for my laptop wont open02:05
sarahokay, thank you. (:02:05
JeevesBondIt's that web site that is in the wrong. So don't worry about it!02:05
DjDarkmansarah: wait02:05
sarah?02:05
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DjDarkmansarah: i heard of a firefox plugin that renders a website with the ie engine02:05
ompaulDerevko\away, Please do not set yourself away  -- do this /away MEssage to anyone - saves telling 707 people and02:05
JeevesBondDjDarkman: Surely that would only work under Windows though02:06
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ompaulDerevko\away, your not spamming the channel if we all did it the channel would not be useful thanks02:06
Scrippiehello02:06
JeevesBondAs it actually uses IE as a component02:06
zcat[1] for every website that only works with IE there are usually another hundred with the same information or service that work in any browser.... it's usually easiest to find a different website that try to work around the 'broken' one02:06
DjDarkmanJeevesBond: why do you think so?it just a dll02:06
finalbetaI want to enable Java inside firefox, but installing the plugin thru apt-get would install a java runtime framework. I fear that would kill of my JDK. Is this correct?02:06
Scrippiegood02:06
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JeevesBondWell, what's it going to think when you call a function of that DLL and it goes and looks for something in the registry? :)02:07
morrolanfinalbeta: you can install a firefox-plugin at the same time which will enable Java inside Firefox02:07
damy[ubuntu] hi all02:07
J0s3phHello. I was hoping I could get a little bit of help regarding NFS between two Ubuntu installations (one main, the other VMWare).02:07
damy[ubuntu] how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:07
finalbetamorrolan, manually then? Not thru apt-get sinse it would install enother framework02:08
J0s3phAll looks good, but when I attempt to mount the share on the VM I get "mount to NFS server '192.168.1.100' failed."02:08
J0s3phAny help would be appreciated.02:08
damy[ubuntu] how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:08
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morrolanfinalbeta: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin02:08
goriiok that sucked02:08
goriieasyubuntu crashed in flames02:08
damy[ubuntu] Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:09
goriiI should have never used automatix02:09
ompaulorga mind if I message you about something o/t ?02:09
finalbetamorrolan, currently all programs can use the JDK, I don't really want to install a JRE.02:09
morrolanfinalbeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper02:09
J0s3phgorii: I discovered that when I first got going with Linux.02:09
damy[ubuntu] Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:09
zcat[1] damy[ubuntu] : stop repeating please!02:09
morrolando a CTRL+F for find in Firefox, and search for Java02:09
J0s3phgorii: and i find it much more fun to learn how to get it all going myself too02:09
damy[ubuntu] zcat[1]  can u help me please?02:09
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goriiyah J0s3ph I was just making a general statement not a plea for help =P02:10
bimberi!wifi > damy[ubuntu] 02:10
ompauldamy[ubuntu] , if it does not work out of the box do this /msg ubotu ndiswrapper and before ogra@ubuntu.com02:10
morrolanfinalbeta: they can still use the JDK - the JDK will be default, except if you run a Java program through Firefox plugin, in which case it willl use the JRE02:10
ompaulwoops02:10
zcat[1] no. Did you try just plugging it in and see what happens. I've found about 955 of stuff just works right away....02:10
finalbetamorrolan, what a waste.02:10
morrolanfinalbeta: look at the URL I gave you, it explains it a little better02:10
morrolanfinalbeta: I know, but it's the only way I know.02:10
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morrolanfinalbeta: I don't use the JDK, but I know you can set one as default and leave the plugin as a secondary use02:11
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finalbetakal0, thnx for the info morrolan02:11
gyro54which is the best video card for DD with TV out?02:12
morrolanfinalbeta: anytime02:12
snoopscan I backup my keyring?02:12
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JeevesBondSo does anyone have any idea why I can only access a samba share (Ubuntu -> Windows using the Administrator username and password to mount) with root privileges (i.e. having to sudo)?02:12
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morrolansnoops: which keyring?02:12
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finalbetaJeevesBond, only root can mount right?02:13
snoopsmorrolan umm well when I connect to say a remote windows share with the smb:// format it asks for the password, and asked if I want to save to keyring02:13
JeevesBondCorrect, and that I can understand. Is there not a way when mounting that I can make the share available to other users?02:13
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CyorxampYou probably get asked this alot, but when is 6.10 due?02:14
finalbetaThe only way I know of is using fstab JeevesBond, but indeed, I hope there is a beter way02:14
J0s3phIsn't it every 6 months roughly?02:14
zcat[1] !edgy02:14
ubotuedgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"02:14
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Cyorxampzcat[1]  - isn't 6.10 supposed to be just updates?02:15
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Cyorxampi.e. soon ?02:15
zcat[1] 6.10 means 10th month of 0602:15
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JeevesBondAhhhh, I see. That would mount it at startup wouldn't it? Sounds like a hard job to me!02:15
zcat[1] dapper was long-term support, edgy is supposted to play with bleeding-edge stuff I believe..02:16
finalbetaJeevesBond, same here, keep asking here, perhaps someone else knows more02:16
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snoopsare they thinking of adding aiglx/glx into edgy zcat[1] ?02:16
}btorch{hi where can I change my display setting on ubuntu ?02:16
JeevesBondOk, thanks for the help finalbeta. I might have a more exhaustive search on the forums. Hmmmm.02:16
}btorch{i'm familiar with sax only02:16
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zcat[1] I hope so :) a bit hard when most/all the 3d drivers are binary-only...02:17
JeevesBondOr maybe it's time to crank Vim up again!02:17
morphixanyone set up XGL with XUbuntu with dual monitor setup?02:17
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}btorch{i can't even find a xterm here02:18
morphixor does anyone know where there are guides for it02:18
zcat[1] latest updates broke my xgl.. very annoying.02:18
JeevesBondthere's some good stuff on the forums morphix02:18
JeevesBondI have set it up but under Gnome, with only one monitor02:18
zcat[1] 'damn you Quinn!!' :-)02:18
finalbetaI wouldn't recomment running XGL unless it's for playing.02:18
morphixJeevesBond, could u point me in the right direction??02:19
morphixfinalbeta, why?02:19
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zcat[1] edgy IS for playing :)02:19
finalbetaIt's really buggy02:19
finalbetaand I mean, badly02:19
JeevesBondmorphix: Certainly. What type of graphics card do you have? nvidia or ATI02:19
zcat[1] nah, it's been really good up til now..02:19
finalbetaIt's handy, but it needs allot of work02:19
JeevesBondI haven't had any problem finalbeta02:19
uepi'd actually like to contribute development-wise to xgl02:19
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uepbut i wasn't able to get it working02:19
morphixJeevesBond, Ati02:20
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CyorxampWas I just kicked or did I press something?02:20
JeevesBondHmmm, not so well supported I don't think. Let me have a rummage on the forums. :)02:20
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morphixfinalbeta, i am sick of this fake transparency in most apps. i want TRUE transparency02:20
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finalbetaJeevesBond, opening a new windows in firefox opens on enother window, maximising windows sometimes takes two senconds. windows flip out, F10 works , but doesn't always go to the window you select02:20
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finalbetaAnd pretty mutch any update will brake it :p02:21
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gharzguys, can i use GAIM to connect to IRC?02:21
richeewhat happened why was Cyorxamp kicked or banned?02:21
richeegharz: Sure u can02:21
finalbetaTo use things like remote desktop, or even netbeans you need to use xnest because windows are to transparent02:22
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gharzreally? i've been looking at the preferences but i don't see any settings for IRC02:22
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JeevesBondWow, I haven't had those issues finalbeta02:22
zcat[1] finalbeta: east enough to go back to plain X though... I can live without it until the next update sets it all right again02:22
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JeevesBondTry this morphix: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389 - just be careful. It is a little buggy ;)02:23
finalbetaPlaying video doesn't work yet, it's in shocks <I know you've got that one02:23
gharzrichee, ok. i'll check on it again. thanks.02:23
damy[ubuntu] Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:23
morphixJeevesBond, ok.. i will look.02:23
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morphixJeevesBond, thanks.02:23
richeegharz: U can use xchat02:23
JeevesBondHaven't had problems playing video?! Not that I've really tried!02:23
JeevesBondNo problems morphix!02:23
finalbetaanything on openGL is buggy02:23
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gharzrichee, i'm using xchat now. ;)02:24
gharzi just wanna try gaim to connect to IRC and see how it looks like.02:24
snoopsfinalbeta sorry you've had so many probs with xgl/compiz.. I've had next to none02:24
zcat[1] fullscreen is a bit choppy though02:24
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finalbetaJeevesBond, well, you don't watch right, playing DVD's video etc, will be choppy02:24
richeegharz: Aren't u comfortable with XCHAT02:24
JeevesBondAh right. I don't really watch DVD's so it hasn't affected me02:24
finalbetaNovel should have some of those issues fixed on SLED10, so i'll wait02:24
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JeevesBondI don't always turn it on either02:24
snoopsfinalbeta I hope you've been using quinn's releases, since the ones on the universal repositories are so old02:25
gharzi'm very much comfortable. i just don't want to open so many applications if i can use gaim to connect to irc... coz my gaim is always on.02:25
finalbetasnoops, yes I did02:25
zcat[1] finalbeta: there's a switch that makes it ten times better, can't recall what it was and not on that machine right now.. something quinnstorm told me in #ubuntu-xgl02:25
JeevesBondzcat[1]  They should turn that switch on by default then! ;)02:25
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finalbetaI've used this guide BTW :http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=38902:25
dmizerneed some help with embedded video using mplayer.02:26
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JeevesBondI used the older one on the Ubuntu forums, your one has overtaken the Ubuntu forums one though02:26
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JeevesBonddmizer: You're not having problems with it not playing WMV's are you?02:27
JeevesBondOr is it just not working in general?02:27
finalbetaCan someone recommend me an MP3 tag (perhaps even WMA) editor?02:27
dmizerJeevesBond: it works, but it locks firefox at the end.02:27
zcat[1] in your gdm.conf-custom (or in the login setup if you do things the gui way),  add -accel glx:pbuffer  to the Xgl options02:27
dmizeri have to do killall firefox02:27
dmizeri'm using xfce02:28
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zcat[1] might just be an nvidia thing, I dunno...02:28
JeevesBondOoooh, thanks zcat[1] !!02:28
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zcat[1] I think that's what it was.. didn't find it in any of the web howto's02:28
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dmizerJeevesBond: i have added alsa to the .mplayer/configure file ... without this switch, video playback is terrible.02:30
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finalbetaCan someone recommend me an MP3 tag (perhaps even WMA) editor?02:30
damy[ubuntu] Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:31
JeevesBondAhh, already have that. Thanks though zcat[1] 02:31
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bigfoot1ok. quick. how do i print out the contents of a text file via cli?02:32
JeevesBonddmizer: Hmmm, my problem is somewhat different. I installed mplayer but it can't find any of the wmv codecs02:32
JeevesBondI checked and their all in completely the wrong folder02:32
KibouBiGcaT: cat ?02:32
JeevesBondthey're*02:32
dmizermake symbolic links?02:33
bigfoot1Kibou: me?02:33
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bigfoot1yes me02:33
bigfoot1thansk02:33
Kibouyes02:33
Kibousorry ;)02:33
JeevesBondYeah, I can't remember what I did or whether it worked. I should have another go02:33
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Otacon22anyone have already installed haclf life with cedega?02:33
Otacon22anyone have already installed haclf life with cedega?02:33
bigfoot1that's ok. cats are easier to think about than a foot02:33
Otacon22*half02:33
Kibou:)02:33
Otacon22I am refering to half life 202:33
DjDarkmanhow can I change the default automake version?02:33
Otacon22I have a problem with install02:33
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dmizerJeevesBond: did you use any kind of script to update firefox?02:34
JeevesBondI don't use Firefox02:34
Otacon22http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata120rf.png02:34
dmizerah ... what's your flavor?02:34
JeevesBondAm one of those horrible Opera lovers ;)02:34
dmizermplayer doesn't work right in opera.02:34
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JeevesBondIn fact am using the built-in IRC client to talk to you now02:34
dmizermplayer plug in site doesn't recommend it's use.02:34
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slonnikhi all ppl02:35
slonniki need help02:35
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ompaul!help02:35
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage02:35
Rundyhi slonnik02:35
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ompaul!ask02:35
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:35
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slonniki have gcc installed but if i try to compile any sources i have following checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:36
JeevesBondYou're assuming I've been playing video in Opera. I haven't have been playing files in mplayer and it still doesn't work. Have been using VLC as a substitute but that doesn't always work either02:36
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gore_anyone know how to make a link to your home directory on a panel02:36
slonnikgore that's a good question too :)02:37
dmizerJeevesBond: yeah, i tried vlc, and totem with both xine and gstreamer and nothing works right.02:37
zcat[1] gore_: drag and drop the home option from the places menu onto the panel..02:37
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gore_bingo thanks zcat[1] 02:37
zcat[1] too easy :-)02:38
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finalbetagore_, I think starting nautilus with a parameter for the path will work.02:38
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damy[ubuntu] Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please02:38
RQwhat does it adapt?02:38
JeevesBondAgreed dmizer02:38
JeevesBonddamy[ubuntu] : I don't think anyone knows!02:39
johan_Any webpage with flash on it makes firefox eat 70% cpu, that is really annoying. Is there an easy way to make that just a few % as usual?02:39
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slonnikso how about my gcc question guys02:39
JeevesBonddamy[ubuntu] : What does this adapter do exactly?02:39
RQjohan_, remove flash02:39
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RQthat's what i did02:39
zcat[1] one thing I don't like though.. if you drag and drop home to your desktop and then drop other stuff onto it, it doesn't behave like other folders, even though it otherwise looks and behaves like them..02:39
RQ;)02:39
dmizerthat's a wireless adapter.02:39
JeevesBondjohan_: That's closed source for you02:39
johan_RQ: But sometimes I need it. Is there a way to turn it on/off on the fly?02:39
solanhow do I update from breezy to dapper? is it the same prosess as from hoary to breezy?02:39
RQjohan_, i don't think so02:39
finalbetagore_, hmm, that was easy, you just need to add the application nautilus... starts in your home dir by default02:39
RQdmizer,ah..02:39
dmizer damy[ubuntu]  ... best i can suggest is ndiswrapper.02:40
Frogzooif I have links to wine exes, how can I get the link to display the icon that's inside the exe?02:40
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atlantianhello again guys02:40
atlantianim back :S02:40
JeevesBondHello atlantian02:40
damy[ubuntu] dmizer: can i pvt with you?02:40
johan_RQ: I used to have a firefox plugin that added a play button on all the flash files, but I've forgotten the name of it, and I think it was Windows only.02:40
atlantianI cant get vncviewer or server to work for the life of me02:40
ompaul!ndiswrapper02:40
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:40
dmizer damy[ubuntu]  ... check the wiki page with a search for wireless adapters to see if yours is supported.02:40
atlantianI have been connecting to a friend in canada windows to windows using realvnc02:40
zcat[1] damy[ubuntu] : your adapter is apparently unsupported. try a google search, there are a few suggestions that might be worth trying..02:40
dmizer damy[ubuntu]  ... dunno if i have that capability.02:40
slonniknobody wants help me :(02:41
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atlantianNow i would like to connect to a windows box for now, then figure out how to set up vnc on a linux box and connect to it via another linux box over the nternet02:41
RQgore_, tried ln -s .. ~/Desktop/Hoome ?02:41
atlantianI have tried vncviewer in terminal and kdrc and b/a what ever they are called02:41
atlantianno look02:41
solanhow do I update from breezy to dapper? is it the same prosess as from hoary to breezy?02:41
atlantianluckI*02:41
damy[ubuntu] Installed ndis drivers:02:41
damy[ubuntu] athfmwdl                driver present, hardware present02:41
damy[ubuntu] neta5agu                driver present, hardware present02:41
damy[ubuntu] look it02:41
damy[ubuntu] but the adpter it's off :(02:41
dmizerno light at all?02:42
damy[ubuntu] no02:42
zcat[1] iwconfig next to turn it on?02:42
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slonnikehmm02:42
dmizer damy[ubuntu]  give me a sec ...02:42
Kiboujohan_: flashblock02:42
slonnikhelp me pleeeeeeaaaaaseee02:42
johan_Kibou: thanks.02:42
damy[ubuntu] lo        no wireless extensions.02:43
damy[ubuntu] eth0      no wireless extensions.02:43
damy[ubuntu] sit0      no wireless extensions.02:43
damy[ubuntu] this is the result of iwconfig02:43
zcat[1] hmmm.. not good.02:43
atlantianCan anyone give me hints on how to get VNC working under ubuntu?02:43
damy[ubuntu] it's adpter usb02:43
damy[ubuntu] ndiswrapper support this02:43
RQatlantian, server or client?02:43
BCK14does anyone here use enligtenment ?02:44
atlantiani have been using windows to windows realvnc server to client for a while now RQ02:44
BCK14as a window manager?02:44
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Lynoureslonnik: if you keep on saying that they don't want to, they will not. I bet it is not about wanting... Did you google that error already?02:44
RQatlantian, and?02:44
atlantiannow me and that guiy are both moving to linux, so i need him to set up his as a server and mine as the viewer RQ02:44
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RQ:)02:44
JeevesBondTo whoever was asking about upgrading to Dapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades02:44
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RQatlantian, if you're dumping windows, then forget vnc too02:44
RQuse remote X02:44
BCK14!enlightenment02:44
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.02:44
atlantianRQ? why VNC is good02:45
Seveasatlantian, freenx is better02:45
atlantianok sell me a better linux alternative then RQ02:45
RQatlantian, remote C02:45
RQremote x, bah ;)02:45
Lynoureslonnik: Did you try this: http://www.geektimes.com/linux/troubleshooting/c-cant-create-executables.html ?02:45
SeveasRQ, remote X is almost as slow as vnc02:45
RQatlantian, look at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf02:45
Kibouit's slower02:45
RQSeveas, at least it won't add additional layer :)02:46
atlantianseveas in windows i have never know VNC to be slow02:46
Seveastrue that 02:46
zcat[1] ssh -X works for me...02:46
RQ << this one's good02:46
Seveasatlantian, heh, if you think VNC is fast, you'll love freenx02:46
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philipsmithI've got a SUSE 10.0 machine and want to try DAPPER. I downloaded the ISO image on an XP machine and burned it to disk as an ISO image using NERO. I inserted the CD and booted. Nothing happens! What am I doing wrong?02:46
dmizertsu?02:46
oneleaf#ubuntu-cn02:46
JeevesBondHow far does it get philipsmith02:46
RQphilipsmith, define "nothing happens"02:46
atlantianwhat would be the most secure, and easy to set up then seveas? can you give me some serious help on this because i am new to linux as a fully fledged main system02:46
schmakkif i want rythmbox to know that mp3 files are in fact audiostreams, i do.. what?02:46
Seveas!freenx > atlantian02:47
RQatlantian, i  used remote login through gdm02:47
JeevesBond!freenx02:47
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX02:47
slonnikwhy it happens : checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables02:47
RQi think it's called xdmcp  :)02:47
RQi liked it02:47
mc__philipsmith, is the cdrom-drive your first boot device?02:47
zcat[1] "nothing happens"  -- try turning the computer on?? something should happen even if it's only the BIOS check...02:47
Kiboucan freenx attch itself to an existing x-session?02:47
SeveasKibou, no02:47
atlantianguys, is freenx secure?02:47
Seveasatlantian, yes02:47
KibouI think that's what he's looking for though02:47
RQslonnik, apt-get install build-essential02:47
Kibou"windows like"02:47
atlantianhow so seveas what does it use?02:47
JeevesBondVNC sure as heck isn't secure02:48
dmizeri second that.02:48
zcat[1] ssh -X is secure :)02:48
RQatlantian, try xdmcp first )02:48
JeevesBondTrue zcat[1]  Is it easy to setup?02:48
RQit needs no installation02:48
philipsmithMC Jeeves and RQ: The CD is my 1st boot device. It seems to get to the point where it wants to read the CD, but can't.02:48
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atlantianrq why?02:48
dmizerssh should be installed by default.02:49
atlantianbtw how come that link is SSL?02:49
atlantianthe wiki one02:49
mc__philipsmith, what is the last message that you see?02:49
RQatlantian, why what?02:49
zcat[1] yes, but not that easy to use.. just run individual programs from the command line and the output /display gets tunneled to the machine you're on..02:49
RQphilipsmith, maybe the CD is bad02:49
atlantianwhy should i try that firs02:49
JeevesBondphilipsmith: It might just be a case of writing a new CD02:49
RQatlantian, because you already have it.02:49
sktxis anyone else having no luck connecting to dalnet?02:49
JeevesBondThat would be the most obviuos02:49
JeevesBondsktx: Haven't tried. Maybe it's down?02:50
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philipsmithMC rq: i tried 3 diffeent cds. I'll log off here and write down the last message. Thank you!02:50
atlantianis the SSH used with freenx more secure than the encryption used with RealVNC (seveas)?02:50
slonnikthanx everything is ok02:51
JeevesBondRealVNC doesn't have any encryption?!02:51
RQatlantian, ssh is secure enough02:51
Seveasatlantian, it's at least as secure as (didn't even know vnc did encryption)02:51
zcat[1] is any VNC encrypted? afaik they're all plaintext.02:52
dmizerit would be too slow otherwise.02:52
gore_ok heres a dumb question02:52
gore_how do I change the default player for videos from totem to mplayer?02:52
gore_I figured its somewhere in gconf-editor but I couldn't find it02:53
zcat[1] right-click on a video, select properties, run-with, change the player it gets run with...02:53
dmizerzcat[1]  you get all the easy ones.02:53
sktxJeevesBond, no i don't think so, i haven't been able to connect for about a month... a traceroute shows the connection is dying after two hops.. but i don't know how to find out if my isp is blocking the connection, or what the problem is02:53
gore_yah but by default02:53
zcat[1] they're all easy ones :)02:53
gore_oooo02:53
zcat[1] that will change the default for all videos of that type..02:54
gore_sweet02:54
mc__if embedding freenx into a website,do there have other ports than 80 to be open on the client?02:54
RQ"Flash Player 9 for Linux is still... in process."02:54
RQhehe02:54
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dmizergot an answer for mplayer crashing firefox zcat[1] ?02:54
gore_does everyone here use gnome pretty much?02:54
JeevesBondDALnet Europe or US?02:54
RQflash 9 will be ALSA02:54
RQ;))02:54
binaif I'm getting quite a lot of I/O errors from my CDRom, does it suggest its dieing or could it just be a bad configuration?02:54
RQgore_, what about it? :D02:54
Seveasmc__, port 22 outgoing (freenx uses ssh)02:54
JeevesBondOpera 8.5 Linux is due out sometime in 200702:54
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RQ!freenx02:55
zcat[1] dmizer: ummm.. grab the link and play it outside of firefox? that's what I always do02:55
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ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX02:55
xemacs_hi i got a question, does ubuntu server come with gnome? or another wm ?02:55
zcat[1] I never liked embedded players anyhow..02:55
ifvoidhi guys02:55
mc__Seveas, great so i can connect to my pc from school02:55
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JeevesBondHopefully Flash 9 will be open source... Or should I say Gnash ;) (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/)02:56
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dmizerzcat[1]  ... that would be nice, except this computer's going to a group home full of special needs children.02:56
gore_just wondering rq, because I figured it would be different if I were using kde02:56
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ifvoidmy gnome-power-manager won't suspend or hubernate my computer anymore02:56
ifvoidbut running the acpi script by hand works ok02:56
daviscostelhi shipit has an irc channel?02:56
JeevesBondI'd love it if Gnash were production ready before Flash02:56
dmizerzcat[1]  they just want to play movie trailers.02:56
gore_yah mplayer in firefox is super buggy02:56
dmizerlol02:56
Seveasdaviscostel, no02:56
RQgore_, #kubuntu guys use kde02:56
RQ;)02:56
ifvoidso it seems dbus is not propagating the event to acpi or so02:56
finalbetakal0, sry to ask something line this, but did any of you installl Enemy Territory? Kindoff don't know what I need02:56
daviscosteli'm so mad02:56
zcat[1] is there a vlc plugin?02:56
ifvoidanyone an idea of why this could be?02:56
RQgore_, i used to use it02:56
daviscostelthey dont send me my copy02:57
gore_dmizer,  make them search for it on utube =P02:57
gore_yah rq I used it afor a while02:57
dmizeryeah ... get flash to work while you're at it.02:57
dmizerlol02:57
zcat[1] rofl... flash player is better?!!02:57
RQ:)02:57
Seveasdaviscostel, relax, it can take a while...02:57
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daviscostelok:(02:57
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dmizerzcat[1]  tried vlc ... played audio, but no video.02:57
gore_zcat[1] , his mplayer was crashing, I'm mister avoid the problem =P02:57
RQdmizer, try mozplugger02:57
daviscostelfuck Win02:57
gore_just missing the codecs02:58
gore_d/l automatix02:58
JeevesBondlol daviscostel02:58
gore_or easyubuntu02:58
gore_!automatix02:58
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ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.02:58
RQhehe02:58
gore_haha02:58
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RQis it The automatix that fucks up your distro? :] 02:58
zcat[1] vlc uses gstreamer plugins right, not w32codecs ?02:58
freaky_heya, i got an issue with the desktop CD... it boots nicely, only it gives me only a crappy 640x480 res (on a 17" monitor...). anyways, i'm unable to install now as part of the installation screen isn't visible (mainly the next/previous buttons n such)02:58
dmizerRQ: i'm not missing codecs ... video plays, it just crashes firefox.02:58
gore_apparently ubotu doesn't like automatix02:58
RQdmizer, try mozplugger02:58
Seveasgore_, that's because automatix is an automatic system wrecker02:58
prammyfreaky_: what video card ?02:59
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RQfreaky_, try <ctrl><+>02:59
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MistaEDzcat[1] : i think vlc uses its own compiled codecs, don't quote me on it though02:59
freaky_RQ: no good, tried that already, also under preferences it doesn't allow me to select anything higher than 640x48002:59
freaky_prammy: lemme check brb02:59
JeevesBondI get that impression too MistaED02:59
zcat[1] mplayer does a crap job with some streams anyhow.. stuff vlc can play fine, mplayer totally scrambles for me quite often.. very frustrating since mplayer makes it so easy to dump to wav and stuff...03:00
RQfreaky_, what is your card?03:00
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gore_Seveas, I haven't seen any problems =P03:00
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Seveasgore_, lucky you03:00
RQgore_, you will. :D03:00
gore_haha what do you mean I will?!!03:00
freaky_trident microsystems cyberblade03:00
RQdon't worry until you do though03:00
RQ;)03:00
freaky_never heard of it :D03:00
RQfreaky_, nope03:00
RQ;)03:01
freaky_it's an onboard card03:01
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JeevesBondPersonally I despise the wmv format. There's no technical merit to it, just an attempt to break Open Source03:01
RQfreaky_, maybe you should try VESA driver?03:01
MistaEDzcat[1] : i use totem-xine most of the time, mplayer for w32codecs and vlc for anything which didn't work on the first two, bit messy but it does the job03:01
freaky_how would i do that on the live cd?03:01
freaky_it's a athlon 800 doubt it has troubles handling higher res.. :)03:01
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RQfreaky_, uh, look at the help messages on boot prompt03:01
MistaEDlike recently my vlc cacks up on .mov and h.264, and totem-xine is fine with it03:02
RQthey let you pass boot options03:02
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daviscostelUbuntu Dapper drake 6 has a bug03:02
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zcat[1] daviscostel: only one?03:02
RQdaviscostel, it has more than one bug03:02
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RQ;)03:02
JeevesBondWhat's that daviscostel? :)03:02
daviscostelwhen u configure urself ut partitions03:03
daviscostelmanualy03:03
Phanto1alguien habla espaniol?03:03
daviscostelu must do a swap partition03:03
daviscostela logical one03:03
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RQPhanto1, try #ubuntu-es maybe?03:03
JeevesBonddaviscostel: And that's a bug?03:03
Phanto1thanks03:03
daviscostelyes03:03
prammyfreaky_: trident cyberblade you said ?03:03
zcat[1] that'sa feature...03:03
mc__!nomachine03:03
ubotuI know nothing about nomachine03:03
freaky_prammy: yea03:04
daviscosteli go on windows use partition magi to make a swap03:04
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daviscostelthat sucks03:04
BWF89they have something called Linux Rescue CD that does the same thing for free03:04
freaky_daviscostel: windows? :P03:04
daviscostelyes03:04
prammyfreaky_: afaik that card should be supported under Xorg since it was supported under XFree03:04
[1] billgparted?03:04
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BWF89its a clone of partition magic 8, only its a boot-up live cd based on Gentoo i think03:04
prammyfreaky_: i am checking on it03:04
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MistaEDuse cfdisk, its been very stable and reliable for me and it's not too hard to figure out03:05
gore_anyone use soulseek?03:05
zcat[1] I dunno.. the breezy install always worked oK for me...03:05
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ompauldaviscostel, the installer gives you that chance03:05
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freaky_prammy: thx03:05
daviscostelok if u format all data on hardrive03:05
JeevesBondgore_: I use nocotine, is that what you mean? The soulseek client for Linux03:05
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daviscosteli want to keep a ntf partition03:05
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gore_yup thanks03:05
prammyfreaky_: did you try going to Sysyem -> Preferences ->Screen Resolution and increasing the res from there ?03:05
Sukitotohi03:06
zcat[1] never managed to resize an ntfs partition yet. that annoys me. I know plenty of people do it so it must only be me :)03:06
ompaul!dualboot > daviscostel03:06
prammyfreaky_: you can also type text I think at the boot prompt to start installation in text mode03:06
sktxgore_,  nicotine is the linux replacement.. i like it better actually, has a few options that the original client doesn't have03:06
Yagisanany cmake users here today ?03:06
dmizerzcat[1]  you can do it easily with knoppix and qtparted.03:06
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freaky_prammy: sure, but the problem is there's only one res there (640x480) so i can't, tried to find somewhere to change the monitor spec, but couldn't find such a thing03:06
JeevesBondThe interface for Nicotine is nicer, I agree sktx03:07
freaky_think the issue is with the monitor detect and/or failsafe. perhaps it couldn't identify the monitor and therefore doesn't let me increase the res03:07
daviscostelso dual boot03:07
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zcat[1] dmizer: you're supposed to be able to do it with the regular installer.. except i always get a tiny 8M slice instead of whatever I asked for...03:07
daviscostelboots Windows then ubuntu?03:07
BWF89i found the page of the cd I was talking about http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page03:07
daviscostelor?03:07
thomaswebbhi, trying to compile latest version of gnubiff, but i get this error: No package 'gamin' found, but gamin is installed03:07
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JeevesBonddaviscostel: No it allows you to have both OS' on your computer at the same time03:07
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daviscosteli had them without that bot03:08
dmizerzcat[1]  ... i've never had to use the partitioner that comes with the ubuntu install cd.03:08
R3linquish3rcould anyone help me with a problem i'm having with one of my CD's?03:08
JeevesBondBut they are seperate. Linux can see ntfs partitions but Windows cannot see Linux partitions03:08
daviscostelye i made them in Windows with PArtition MAgic03:08
freaky_JeevesBond: it can with software03:08
Frogzoofreaky_: sounds like you need to spec horizsync & vertrefresh in xorg.conf03:08
Frogzoo!fixres > freaky_03:08
zcat[1] it does a good job making new partitions... '03:08
JeevesBondfreaky_: Be quiet, am being rude about Windows here! ;)03:09
prammyfreaky_: another option for you is to run the install in text mode and then see if the monitor rates are detected correctly. If not, then manually change the xorg.conf to reflect the monitor info. Not the greatest solution but it will get stuff installed for you.03:09
zcat[1] I'm fast reaching the point where I just won't support windows at all... too frustrating.03:09
FrogzooJeevesBond: the winext2 drivers let's windows read ext2/303:09
dmizerRQ: moz plugger plays the video, but it's very choppy.03:09
freaky_JeevesBond: :D03:09
R3linquish3rfor some reason my CD drive cant read my 4th KOTOR disk. it works fine in windows though. it shows that the disk is empty and I cant figure out why......03:09
JeevesBond!fixres > JeevesBond03:09
Frogzoo!winext203:09
ubotuI know nothing about winext203:09
Frogzoobooo03:09
JeevesBondMy point is it can't do it natively03:09
freaky_JeevesBond: ? what's that fixres stuff?03:10
FrogzooJeevesBond: a driver's not native?!03:10
Hexidigital_fix resolution03:10
Frogzoo!fixres03:10
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto03:10
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prammywell this is during the install phase btw03:10
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prammynot post install03:10
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Sukitotoanybody know what best config for a copperhead mouse would be?03:10
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R3linquish3rfor some reason my CD drive cant read my 4th KOTOR disk. it works fine in windows though. it shows that the disk is empty and I cant figure out why......03:11
R3linquish3ranyone have any iedas?03:11
prammyR3linquish3r: no idea but kotor 1 or 2 ?03:11
R3linquish3r103:11
jpgvietnamhi03:11
R3linquish3rall 3 other disks are read03:11
Davo_Dinkum R3linquish3r: im PMing you03:11
R3linquish3rand the 4th one is read in windows03:11
prammyR3linquish3r: ya i like that game too .. kotor 2 was extremely boring03:11
R3linquish3rhavent gotten it yet03:11
FrogzooR3linquish3r: is there a device for it in /dev ?03:11
R3linquish3rheard the story line sucked03:11
prammysave yourself the money03:11
prammyits BORING03:12
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prammykotor 1 had a captivating story line03:12
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JeevesBondAnyway, as much as am addicted to chatting in this place am hank marvin03:12
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R3linquish3rFrogzoo: yeah the cdrom is mounted. it recognizes the first 3 disks fine03:12
JeevesBondSee you all later03:12
R3linquish3rDavey_Dinkum: OK03:12
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daviscostelFuck i go for Windows03:13
daviscostelbye all03:13
Stardogguys... having problems installing ATI drivers on my dapper.... it doesn't work.....03:13
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PornoTheraphy9500 or lower?03:13
Frogzoodaviscostel: it's a point of view....03:13
prammyStardog: what is the problem ?03:13
RQdmizer, at least it workds03:13
RQworks03:13
thomaswebbdaviscostel, it is all a matter of choice03:13
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thomaswebboh well03:14
RQplus, it lets you view pdfs vithout adobe reader03:14
prammyStardog: you getting a lot of errors when you do glxinfo ?03:14
dmizerRQ: that's a matter of opinion.03:14
dmizerlol03:14
PornoTheraphyStardog, are you a 9500 ati or older?03:14
FrogzooR3linquish3r: hmm... is this running under wine? have you checked appdb?03:14
Stardogprammy: yes03:14
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StardogPornoTheraphy:  920003:14
PornoTheraphylike mine03:14
PornoTheraphyw803:14
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ZambeziWhich do you prefer? Vsftpd or glftpd?03:14
thomaswebbi wonder if someone could help me with my dependency problem03:14
prammyStardog: you need to get a replacement libGL.so.1.203:14
PornoTheraphyyou have to install an older driver03:14
R3linquish3rFrogzoo: Trying to install it on cedegfa. I have done it b4. But for some reason linux itself can't find anything on the 4th disk anymore03:14
prammyStardog: there is a link to an older libGL.so.1.2 on the forums  or I can upload mine for you03:15
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PornoTheraphyStardog, what's the error you get when you do fglrxinfo?03:15
hctibtipotsi cant get java to install to the correct directories03:15
Stardogprammy: can u send me the link?03:15
hctibtipotshow do i install java properly?03:15
dmizerhctibtipots: easyubuntu03:15
Frogzoo!java03:15
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ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository03:15
GNAM!smart03:15
ubotusmart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager03:15
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freaky_strange ddcprobe nicely returns the res' the monitor is capable of03:15
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[1] billanyone know why writes to my external harddrive would be randomly failing after transfering lots of files?03:16
Frogzoohctibtipots: there ya go: install sun-java5-jre03:16
prammyStardog: to my copy ? You will have to search on the forums yourself since i dont have it bookmarked. But i can upload my copy for you03:16
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Frogzoo[1] bill: bad cable, bad power supply, failing disk03:16
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Frogzoo[1] bill: check /var/log/messages for problems03:16
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R3linquish3rDavo_Dinkum: I never got a PM from you.03:16
Stardogprammy: yes please03:16
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jpgvietnamwhy  seveas have dot green ?03:17
jpgvietnam???03:17
Seveasjpgvietnam, because I have green hair03:17
R3linquish3rhes on op03:17
RQ:)03:17
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RQheh03:17
Seveasthere, washed it03:17
dmizerlol03:18
jpgvietnamhihi ,thanks03:18
R3linquish3rFrogzoo: I have tried 2 differnet drives neither of them can read the 4th disk.03:18
Frogzoodo all ops have green hair ?03:18
prammyStardog: I PM'd you the info03:18
Frogzoo!appdb03:18
ubotuI know nothing about appdb03:18
Frogzooomg03:19
FrogzooR3linquish3r: -> appdb.winehq.org   & search for help for your app03:19
R3linquish3rFrogzoo: It isnt supported on Wine. I'm using Cedega for it.03:19
jpgvietnamhow old are you ,Seveas?03:19
R3linquish3rbut i'll try there03:19
Seveasjpgvietnam, that's not important03:19
Frogzooubotu appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org03:20
Seveas!appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org03:20
ubotuI'll remember that03:20
FrogzooSeveas: thx03:20
RotlausHow can i setup a graphical remote login from one ubuntu machine to another ubuntu machine? I have already ssh access.03:20
jpgvietnami am male and 2103:20
jpgvietnami am student03:20
jpgvietnamand you ?03:20
gnomefreakjpgvietnam: join #ubuntu-offtopic03:20
mc__jpgvietnam, no one wants to know that03:20
Frogzoojpgvietnam: wrong chan dude03:20
Seveasjpgvietnam, this is not a talk channel but a support channel03:20
RQRotlaus, configure gdm03:21
thomaswebbcould i have a quick piece of support?03:21
StardogPornoTheraphy: can I pm u with that info?03:21
jpgvietnamsorry03:21
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freaky_hmmz i though 1 + 1 would always be 2. but booting the livecd the first time gave me only 640x480, the second boot now gives me 1280x102403:21
PornoTheraphyStardog, sure03:22
wilfredHis it possible to remove the pcmcia stuff from my desktop box?03:22
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PornoTheraphyStardog,  is it api entry error?03:22
jpgvietnamyes ,we will talk about ubuntu Linux03:22
jpgvietnam^^03:22
RotlausRQ: I've enabled XDMCP in the gdm.conf and restrted gdm, but when i try to connect with rdesktop ist denies the connection03:22
stgraberfreaky_: strange :)03:22
LynoureWhat's the best way to get productively involved with Ubuntu project, BTW?03:22
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freaky_stgraber: yea, and if i'd change the boot parameters or something... but i didn't do jack*03:23
RQRotlaus, don't use rdesktop for that03:23
RQuse gdm03:23
RQ;)03:23
LynoureI'd like to help somehow, but so far all I've done is answering random questions on irc and reporting bugs I have happened to run into03:23
PornoTheraphyStardog, i gotta eat something or else i die... pm me and i help you03:23
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dmizerRotlaus: what are you using to try to connect?03:23
gnomefreakLynoure: there are many way to be involved in Ubuntu. thats  a good start03:23
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Rotlausdmizer: rdesktop03:23
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slonnikdoes anyone use SynCE ?03:24
gnomefreakum let me see if i can find you the page Lynoure03:24
JemtGreetz. What DC++ client does Ubuntu use ?03:24
hctibtipotsi cant find java in the synaptic package manager anywhere03:24
RotlausRQ: How? Not sure what u mean...03:24
JemtI need the name of it03:24
Jemt!tell Jemt about DC++03:24
ubotuI know nothing about DC++03:24
nbjaymehello, what could be causing "Failed to Initialize HAL!"?  what should be done?03:24
Lynouregnomefreak: ok, what's a good way to continue? :)03:24
RQRotlaus, wait, i'm looking ;)03:24
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mc__how smart should one be to become a MOTU?03:24
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gnomefreakLynoure: giv eme a min im looking for a site for you03:24
RQRotlaus, there used to be a separate prog that runs X client inside a window03:24
FrogzooR3linquish3r: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=311503:25
Frogzoohctibtipots: you need to enable the multiverse repo03:25
Frogzoo!multiverse03:25
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:25
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RotlausRQ: which one?03:25
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mc__!easysource > mc__03:25
RQRotlaus, wait03:26
wilfredHcan anyone tell me if I can remove the pcmcia stuff on my ubuntu install? I'm not running it on a laptop so it's useless.03:26
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RQRotlaus, probably easiest is to run a separate gdm login, and choose remote login there.03:27
hctibtipotsFrogzoo:how would i do that???03:27
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RQor something03:27
SubwilfredH, yes you can.03:27
FrogzoowilfredH: why not just disable the pcmcia startup scripts?03:27
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RQRotlaus, sorry, i don;t03:27
gnomefreakLynoure: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate03:27
RQi don't have that configured here03:27
JemtCan someone tell me which DC++ client Ubuntu has installed? I need the name of it03:27
SubFrogzoo, itz easier just to remove the pcmcia packages.03:27
RQJemt, dcgui2, i think03:28
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Frogzoohctibtipots: see ubotu ^^^03:28
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SubJemt, get "linuxdcpp" if you want a good dc++ client03:28
hctibtipotsnah fuck ubuntu...03:28
thomaswebbi cna still not install this peice of software because i cannot understand how to tell the configuration tool that gamin is installed, any help would be much appreciated03:28
FrogzooSub: sometimes removing stuff breaks things, so I always recommend testing03:28
Subthe others arent as good, youll need to compile it from cvs though Jemt03:28
JemtRQ: Ah, ok. Bugger. Same I'm using, but it sucks. Do you know of a simple client? I only need to be able to connect and download a few Linux distros on a LAN Party03:28
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Frogzoohctibtipots: seems to be a common thread today03:29
SubFrogzoo, well I've removed mine with no issues.03:29
JemtSub: Hey, great. I'll check that one out - thanks :)03:29
Lynouregnomefreak: thank you :)03:29
gnomefreakyw03:29
RQJemt, well i compiled wulfor for myself/03:29
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RQbut it crashes too often03:29
RQWAY too often03:29
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hctibtipotsive been tryin for 2 days now to install java03:29
JemtRQ: Hm, ok, thanks03:29
SubRQ, use linuxdcpp , its like a 1:! clone of the offical DC++ client.03:30
snedarhi! does anyone know whether this keyboard will work in ubuntu: http://www.mycom.nl/MyCom/Store/productdetailedinfo.do?productID=97527&productType=103:30
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Subhctibtipots, it's quite simple03:30
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dmizerhctibtipots ... try easyubuntu.03:30
Subif you use EU03:30
Sub!easyubuntu03:30
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:30
wilfredHhow would I go about disabling them?03:30
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RQSub, hm03:30
gnomefreakhctibtipots: enable multiverse repo than sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre03:30
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SubwilfredH, just do "sudo apt-get remove pcmciad " i think03:30
RQSub, what's the name of its window? :D03:30
gnomefreakbrb03:30
SubRQ, cuz wulfor and valknut suck03:31
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uepi'd like to do development/fix bugs with compiz/xorg, but i couldn't get it setup03:31
hctibtipotshow do you enable multiverse repo???03:31
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snedarjava is officially in the ubuntu repos now, isn't it?03:31
uepdoes anybody know a good resource to learn how to build it (not just a means of install)03:31
SubRQ, oh fuck lol wulfor reloaded03:31
Frogzoosnedar: yes03:31
Subi got wulfor mixed up with dcgui lol03:31
RQSub,  :D03:31
RQhahahah03:31
Lynoure!language03:31
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.03:31
jujumanoooobuntoooooo03:31
RQSub, exactly. I have wulfor reloaded too :)03:31
snedarFrogzoo: was that answer about java? (I was asking about keyboards too :-)03:31
Sub<- nub.03:31
RQSub, it looks great. but it crashes way too often03:32
Hakkerhmm question I want to extract phpmyadmin from a client install to /var/www but I somehow haven't got the rights (using login info created during the install) how can that login not be superuser and how can I make a superuser03:32
wilfredHno good. If I could just disable it at startup that would be good03:32
SubRQ, i compiled this from cvs again about 2-3 days ago and its been great.03:32
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SubwilfredH, why is that no good?03:32
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RQSub, hmm, maybe i should update then03:32
RQ:)03:32
Frogzoosnedar: what's special about the keyboard makes you think it could be a problem? even at the worst, you can always remap a few keys03:33
SubwilfredH, if it asks to remove "ubuntu-desktop" or something, dont worry, itz just a meta package and wont remove anything.03:33
RQHakker, sudo -s03:33
wilfredHsub: that was exactly my problem03:33
SubwilfredH, you can remove it03:33
snedarFrogzoo: I don't know, it's from Microsoft... :-) but remapping works with about every keyboard?03:33
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Sub!package ubuntu-desktop03:33
ubotuI know nothing about package ubuntu-desktop03:33
wilfredHok03:33
Xgatessay anyone know how to fix this: --->  waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.03:33
SubwilfredH, that package is almost a list of other packages, it is safe to remove it.03:33
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AB3I!home folder03:34
ubotuI know nothing about home folder03:34
Frogzoosnedar: is this a USB kb? wireless keyboards can have driver issues but anything USB should be fine03:34
Subsnedar, i use a foriegn MS keyboard.03:35
wilfredHsub: to be removed: ubuntu-base, ubuntu-minimal03:35
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Sub!package ubuntu-base03:35
ubotuI know nothing about package ubuntu-base03:35
AB3Ihmmm, Ok guys I have a really dumb question. I accidentally removed the konqueror button for my home folder from my kde taskbar. Any suggestions on replacing it? I cant find that particular application in the menus to add it back03:35
snedarFrogzoo: okay, thanks, I'm going to buy a PS/2 keyboard, don't want to have driver problems03:35
Sub>:-(03:35
SubwilfredH, look it up in synaptic. the description states they are safe to remvoe.03:35
wilfredHsub: I'm in synaptic. Can I get to leave those packages alone?03:36
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Kibougo get a real keyboard.. like a model m or something03:36
SubAB3I, maybe that could be better answered in #kubuntu03:36
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AB3Ithanks sub03:36
SubwilfredH, no, they are safe to remove.03:36
Subsnedar, are you sure you are using the right keymap yes?03:36
wilfredHsub, will it just not remove them then?03:37
Hakker(RQ): ok that makes it possible to login as root but if I try it in the login screen it doesn't work and still keeps part 2 open how can I make hakker (username created during installl) a superuser?03:37
mc__!cedega > mcp__03:37
mc__!cedega > mc__03:37
jujumanwhat african language is the word ubuntu from03:37
RQHakker, you want hakker to have root rights?03:37
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SubwilfredH, they are meta-packages. packages with lists of packahes . so removing the "list" (or in this case ubuntu-base) doesnt actually remove anything03:37
slonnikhmm does any one use synce ?03:37
Hakker(RQ): yeah else I can't seem to work decently with it03:38
RQHakker, no, you don't want that :)03:38
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RQwhat do you mean by "work decently"03:38
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Frogzoosnedar: I did find this googling however: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000A6PPOK/104-0064469-650470203:38
igcekre, can anybody tell me how to check my uptime?03:38
SubwilfredH "sudo apt-get remove pcmciad" will be perfectly safe to do.03:38
snedarSub: I haven't bought a new one yet. I probably won't have any keymap problems, because everything is US intl here.03:38
Frogzoosnedar: "FOR THOSE WISHING TO USE THIS KEYBOARD FOR MULTIPLE OS's SUCH AS LINUX ETC, CAVAET EMPTOR!03:38
FrogzooUnfortunately, when I took the keyboard home, I found out like many THAT THIS KEYBOARD IS NOT PS2 COMPATIBLE - EVEN WITH A USB TO PS2 ADAPTER! "03:39
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robertjhey all, can someone tell me what problems fsck prevents?03:39
Smjorigcek, in terminal write "uptime"03:39
wilfredHok, removing now...03:39
snedarFrogzoo: thanks, that site looks useful (I never really used amazon)03:39
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snedarI think I'll just go for a cheap wired PS/2 keyboard03:39
Subrobertj, none, it just tells you about problems you can get,03:39
Subyou have *03:39
Hakker(RQ): well extract files in the www dir... setting up ftp with the client (later on) importing databases etc03:40
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robertjSub: anything that's not available via smart?03:40
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Frogzoosnedar: oh, the problem apparently was it wouldn't work with a kvm was all03:40
wilfredHsub, thx for your help03:40
RQHakker, well you either do that with "root" user, or you add yourself to an appropriate group03:40
RQi.e., www-data in case of /var/www, i think03:40
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MisterNhi03:41
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Subrobertj, smart is also just a monitoring app, nothing "prevents" issues, they can just help you prepare for them (smart) or help fix them (fsck) when they occur.03:42
gore_anyone here use starterbar?03:42
robertjSub: I meant in the wider sense of "It informs of you issue X which you wouldn't otherwise know of"03:42
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BCK14how do i open port 80 in iptables?03:44
Subrobertj, well in that case, smart monitors the actual raw disks, so a complete failure of the drive is what that will notice, fsck monitors actual partitons, so if a partition corrupts but the hdd itself is okay then fsck will pick that up when smart wouldnt.03:44
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RQ;)03:45
robertjSub: I thought the whole idea behind journaling fs's is that partition's weren't supposed to become corrupt03:45
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Stardog_[0x90] : did u get my errormsg?03:46
RotlausRQ: it worked. On the gdm on the locale machine i could log in on the remote machine03:46
[0x90] no Stardog03:46
[0x90] pm me03:46
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Stardog_[0x90] : ehm.... doesn seem that i can pm u :/03:46
RQRotlaus, congratulations :)03:46
[0x90] ah03:46
[0x90] was it an API ENTRY error?03:47
RotlausRQ, thanks for your help03:47
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RQyou're welvome03:47
Subrobertj, yes thats true but say u mount your ext3 in windows it will be mounted as ext2 (no journalling) so therefore you can still get corruptions03:47
RQ*welcome03:47
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Stardog_yes03:47
[0x90] so you have to install an older driver03:47
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[0x90] look, join channel ppppp03:48
robertjSub: I think that's rare enough that sticking at 15 minute fsck into every 30th boot isn't justified :(03:48
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Hakker(RQ): I added hakker to GID www-data but I still can't extract files to there03:48
jujumanhttp://jewsdidwtc.com/03:48
mamuhow to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd?03:48
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[1] billrobertj: its justified.  I would have noticed my harddrive was failing alot sooner if it would have been more often03:48
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RQHakker, you need to relogin03:48
RQor03:48
Stardog_[0x90] : do you have a link to a site where i can do this?03:48
mamuhi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd?03:49
[0x90] yes03:49
[0x90] wget http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.203:49
robertj[1] bill: or within an hour or so if the smart notification let you know via gui03:49
RQHakker, or try `sudo -su hakker`03:49
[0x90] then do sudo cp libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.203:49
[1] billrobertj,  By the time I started getting errors I had lost half the harddisk.03:49
[1] billrobertj, the fsck errors started earlier, I just didn't really notice them03:49
robertj[1] bill: I'm sorry to hear about that. If your disk supported smart (and the vast majority do) it would have let you know very quickly03:49
[0x90] when you finish doing it, type fglrxinfo on the console and show me the output03:49
Subrobertj, better safe than sorry :P03:49
[1] billrobertj: it does, and it was enabled =)03:49
Hakkertry the relog first ;)03:50
frank_bhow can I edit a PDF file I donwloaded?03:50
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robertj[1] bill: but no imnotify hook for it :(03:50
[0x90] Stardog_,  done?03:50
mamuhi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd, i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs?03:50
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Stardog_one sec03:50
[0x90] ok03:50
Subrobertj, last time my hdd failed, smart told me 3 days before :O i got a new drive arrive ON THE TEC DATE, luckilu got it all over, failed about 2 hours later.03:50
Suberrors all over the shop then03:51
MtJBi have been to the wronge end of the galaxy, and to no avail, i might add.  i need libslang-utf8 in order to play the dropteam MP demo just released, and yet, i cannot. what justice?03:51
robertjSub: what did fsck tell you?03:51
mamuhi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd? i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs :(03:51
Stardog_[0x90] : done03:51
[0x90] worked?03:51
jujumanhttp://jewsdidwtc.com/03:51
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jujumanhttp://jewsdidwtc.com/03:51
jujumanhttp://jewsdidwtc.com/03:51
jujumanhttp://jewsdidwtc.com/03:51
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ueplol03:51
MtJBmay i kill jujuman03:51
SeveasMtJB, too late03:51
SeveasI was hungry03:51
MtJBi think a meat hook through his head would be nice03:51
Stardog_[0x90] :  i love u %D03:51
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Subrobertj, no i booted into windows to do the swap, and chkdisk gave me loads of crap.03:52
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[0x90] hehe03:52
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Stardog_thx mate03:52
[0x90] Stardog_,  i had the same problem xD03:52
mamuhi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd? i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs :(03:52
SeanTaterWhat libs do I need for qt (i need it for compiling)03:52
[0x90] i took weeks to find out what was wrong03:52
gnomefreakmamu: from the alternative cd03:52
[0x90] now save the file and save the instructions ;)03:52
gnomefreakalternate cd even03:52
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_stev_can I have different window managers when I switch from workspace?03:53
robertjSub: my position is that we will catch 99.9% of the people before + lots of additional people if we switch over to nixing the scheduled fsck's and going to user-friendly SMART monitoring03:53
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gnomefreakSeanTater: depends on what your compiling but a good start would be libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev03:53
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Stardog_[0x90] : a lot of user had it... but I couldnt see on forums how they fixed it.... but thanks... this did the trick03:53
kurzerhi all03:53
SeanTatergnomefreak: I;m compiling the kde xpenguins applet03:53
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SeanTatergnomefreak: I'll start with those03:54
[0x90] hehe no problem :)03:54
kurzerhow can i mount a hdb with ntfs ?03:54
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Sub!ntfs03:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions03:54
[0x90] i wanna be an radeon 9200 driver installer professional :f03:54
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kurzer!ntfs03:54
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions03:54
mamugonmefreak:My system hangs when the manual partition screen comes up. Is there any word around for this?03:54
sonicswhere i can set up programs to auto load after booting up in dapper?03:54
[0x90] init.d03:54
Subrobertj, tell the developers then :D  -me, i think raid 1 will just become more standard.03:54
[0x90] sonics,  /etc/init.d03:54
robertjSub: aint' gonna happen03:54
sonicstnx03:55
kurzerthx !03:55
gnomefreakmamu: not that i have run into assuming your using the desktop cd03:55
robertjSub: it's an additional expense with little benefit because most users don't care about their data enough to even back it up to DVD03:55
frank_bhow can I edit a PDF file I donwloaded?03:55
robertjSub: it's a great benefit to people who _do_ but those people will get RAID now if they want it03:55
slonchoLVM2 question. I have lvm2 volumes on the machine (created before I installed dapper). I can read and use them from knoppix and suse. dapper uses rhem as well, but it displays errors in the log, and I'm woried.03:56
Yagisananyone here tried to cmakify a non-trivial application ? cmake is complaining about not finding my includes, even though they are specified.03:56
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mamugnoemfreak: i am trying to install 6.06 from live cd.03:56
[1] billrobertj: I will agree the smart monitoring needs to be better.03:56
slonchovgscan reports IO error for every logical volume. upon mounting, there is also IO errors in the log03:56
RiesHey all, what can I do to not enter sudo always before any administrative command?03:56
Mortis_kruuulhttp://avemetal.com - The Kingdom of Music ;)03:56
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gnomefreakmamu: download the alternate cd and install it from that03:57
[1] billthe stuff in the logs is rather cryptic I'm afraid03:57
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robertj[1] bill: 99.9% of people don't read logs03:57
mamugnoemfreak: thanks03:57
Subrobertj, well still, developers dont comb the irc chans for ideas, the idea of the linux community is contribution, go find a way to post suggestions.03:57
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robertjI'm just trying to ferment my ideas here03:58
[0x90] robertj, 70% of statistics are incorrect03:58
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[1] billrobertj: well I mean, I saw a few smart messages on the console, but it couldn't tell me what they were saying.  It wasn't WARNING HARDDRIVE IN ANGER, it was, unknown msg or what not03:58
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omeAnyone know if theres a program to map keys to mouse buttons?03:58
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[1] billrobertj: I'm assuming they were smart messages, they could have been kernel messages. Its definately not obvious what they are.03:58
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robertjwell if your getting kernel messages your pretty much already screwed usually03:58
[1] billI don't remember what messages they were03:59
[1] billbut if its generally known that your screwed03:59
[1] billthere needs to be a big warning box that says WARNING: harddrive screwe!03:59
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robertj[1] bill: but sometimes it's just generic input error and then it would be 'WARNING: You are screwed. Take your computer to an expert or buy a new one."03:59
gnomefreakthat would lead to people panicing03:59
gnomefreakbrb reboot04:00
[1] billwell something better then generic input error would be good04:00
robertjsometimes thats all you got04:00
Frogzooome: you just trying to get additional mouse buttons recognised?04:00
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omewell im sure that would be first step. I want to assign keyboard keys to certain buttons04:01
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RQhm04:03
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Rieswhat is gforge ?? it seems that it installs a very old version of postgresql... is that specially made for ubuntu?04:03
Minsc37Hello all04:03
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RQhi Minsc3704:03
Hakker(RQ): well relog won't help and sodu -su hakker create a /bin/bash error04:03
RQhmm04:04
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RQHakker, how did you add yourself to the group?04:04
longkerdandyhi, i'm using the xchat-gnome, but i don't know how to active the spelling check04:04
Hakkersystem-users and groups part04:04
Hakkerselect www-data add hakker04:04
RQoh, through gui. OK04:04
Minsc37Has anyone experienced/fixed that infinite sound loop (the drumbeat) at the gdm login screen? I can log in okay, but then it stalls before loading the desktop, and I'm forced to restart the whole computer04:04
Hakkerr1 yeah die-hard windows dude on linux here ;)04:05
RQHakker, ls -la /var/www04:05
Sukitotoanybody using a razor copperhead mouse?04:05
RQpaste the line with /var/www here04:05
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RQHakker, or simply /exec -o ls -l /var/www |head -104:06
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Frogzooome: give this a go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16936 if this doesn't work, you'll need to take a look at the evdev driver04:06
morphixhmm..04:06
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Hakkertotal 1204:07
morphixi tried using a XGL guide.04:07
FrogzooSukitoto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RazerCopperheadmouse04:07
morphixbut it doesnt work04:07
RQHakker, oops04:07
morphixi get an error saying cannot find screen.04:07
Hakkerdrwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 date04:07
RQHakker, or simply /exec -o ls -l /var/www |head -204:07
Hakkerdrwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 date04:07
RQi need the second line04:07
RQoh04:07
RQdarn04:07
RQwait04:07
Hakkerand one with 2 and apache2-default in the end04:07
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RQHakker, i need ls -la indeed :/04:08
RQ /exec -o ls -la /var/www |head -204:08
RQsorry :)04:08
finalbetaJust installed XQF for ET. When I start ET it crashes. How can I debug this? ET starts fine by itself.04:08
omek thanks04:08
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RQHakker, ?04:09
Hakker./exec: no such file or directory04:09
Hakkerminus the .04:09
kingruedii compiled my own kernel with make-kpkg and installed it without a problem. When I try to boot the kernel it is uncompressed and boots. But after the Kernel "Uncompressed Message" when ubuntu normally switches to the init.d stuff the screen turns black and nothing happenes04:10
RQHakker, you're supposed to execute that as an xchat command :D04:10
RQHERE04:10
RQ;] 04:10
Minsc37Truly, has no one had that sound loop problem? This is the second time it's happened to me in my experiences with Ubuntu, if I remember correctly04:10
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kingruediwhat's wrong with the kernel? maybe fdev support broken?04:10
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Hakker-o invalid option04:11
axismehm, anyone managed to get dri working with an i915?04:11
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RQdoh04:11
Hakkerbtw the machine isn't in chat ;)04:11
Frogzooome: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto04:11
RQok then just paste the line which says about /var/www permissions04:11
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RQls -l /var |grep www04:12
finalbetaJust installed XQF for ET. When I start ET it crashes. How can I debug this? ET starts fine by itself.04:12
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boci^hi04:12
boci^anybody use muddleftpd?04:12
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Hakkerdrwxe-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:02 www04:13
RQHakker, ok.04:13
Hakkerminus that e ;)04:13
Hakkertypo's ftw04:13
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Tommy2k4when will the new OOo version be in the repositories04:13
RQhakker, sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www04:14
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RQsudo chmod -R g+w www-data04:14
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RQyou can ommit "-R" in the second command04:14
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Gazoanyone know the fix for "unable to create filesystem" on install of 6.06 ? Tried to different machines .. both the same thing ... stops at 15%04:16
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Gazoto=two :P04:16
Hakkershouldn't www-data be /var/www ?04:17
LTjakeHey all. I'm running Xgl+compiz, which seems to be working, except that i'm getting a warning: "compiz.real: No XKB extension" any ideas?04:17
RQHakker, eh?04:17
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RQGazo, reburn your cd or so04:17
Hakkerwell I get no such file or directory ;)04:17
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RQHakker, oh, right04:18
RQsudo chmod g+w /var/www04:18
Gazothe cd verifies ok ... its gotta be an ubuntu installer thing04:18
RQ:)04:18
wubunutuabiHi guys, I have been trying to install Diva on ubuntu because I heard someone else had success with it. It's telling me I need a higher version of GTK+ (2.8 to be exact) but I can't figure out how to do that because synaptic only has up GTK 2.1 or something04:18
RQmy mistake04:18
wubunutuabiI have gotten scons and the installer working but I need that dependency04:18
Hakker-R is an illegal option04:18
Seveaswubunutuabi, Ubuntu uses gtk2.8...04:18
Hakkersudo g+w /var/www = command not found04:19
RQwubunutuabi, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev04:19
Hakkerso i'm screwing things up again ;)04:19
RQHakker, you're not. :)04:19
RQI am :)04:19
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wubunutuabioh i'm sorry ... i meant glib04:19
Blaskowitzhi all, how would you go about copying a file from another computer via the net, to my comp (ie from another unix session)?04:19
Hakkerah K that a change for a time ;)04:19
kennehoI'm having troubles getting Natilus to burn a DVD. When the burn process is about to start, an error message pops up saying that some files are having erroneous names. How can I fix this?04:19
RQHakker, you don't necessaryly need -R in the second command04:19
wubunutuabiglib 2.8.504:19
RQ(sorry for my typos)04:19
hakanw_I'm administrating a server... if I want only me to be able to do sudo stuff, how do I configure the visudo file?04:19
gnomefreakF12: was tehre a reason why you ctcp'ed me?04:19
GorlistHi,04:19
Seveas!find libglib04:20
ubotuFound: libglib-perl, libglib1.2, libglib1.2-dbg, libglib1.2-dev, libglib2.0-cil (and 11 others)04:20
gnomefreaks/tehre/there04:20
RQwubunutuabi, libglib2.0-dev04:20
GorlistUbuntu comes with Openoffice 2.0 installed04:20
Gorlisthow can I upgrade it to 2.3?04:20
wubunutuabiok04:20
Gorlistdoes not appear on the package manager!04:20
Hakkerok I think I got it missed the chmod line ... lemme check it now04:20
wubunutuabithanks i'll try that04:20
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RQGorlist, there's no OOo 2.3 yet04:20
Gorlist2.03 perhaps ? :)04:20
RQHakker, sudo chmod g+w /var/www04:21
Gorlist2.02 is installed at the moment04:21
RQsudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www04:21
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RQGorlist, 2.03 maybe04:21
Gorlistand theirs a newer one on the OOO website04:21
wubunutuabiI get this error when I try to open synaptic ... Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file04:21
RQif it's not in dapper updates, then just wait for it :)04:21
Gorliston Synaptic Package Manager only 2.02 is avaliable?04:21
wubunutuabiI'm not even sure what happened04:21
kennehoMust I use another burn app?04:21
wubunutuabiI just woke up and now it's doing this?04:21
RQunless you want to mess with all those repositories and stuff04:21
gnomefreakGorlist: noone knows where its gonna end up yet04:21
Gorlisthow do you mean?04:21
Hakkerwheee04:22
Gorlistah its not appearing as its not a stable release??04:22
wubunutuabiWhat does it mean when synaptic says "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"04:22
gnomefreakGorlist: the devel team hasnt decided if its gonna be in dapper04:22
RQwubunutuabi, duno04:22
RQ;)04:22
Gorlistdapper...? sorry new to linux!04:22
Rieswhat could this mean, when I try to install apache2?   gforge-db-postgresql: Depends: gforge-common but it is not going to be installed, Depends: postgresql (>= 7.1.2) but it is not going to be installed04:22
Hakker(RQ): ok so why didn't the USER and Groups part failed in doing this?04:22
Blaskowitzhow do u copy a file from one unix session to another via the net?04:22
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wubunutuabiOh boy04:22
RiesI don't want to have gforge!!!!04:22
gnomefreakGorlist: dapper = ubuntu 6.0604:22
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RQHakker, what do you mean?04:22
Hakkerwell I tried to set me in that group there and it didn't work.... now it does04:23
Gorlistso they might delay it until next version of buntu?04:23
RQRies, you probably have packages conflicting with those that apache2 depends on04:23
Gorlistseems odd?04:23
ccookewubunutuabi: The Xauthentication file is used to determine who is allowed to talk to your X server. If your user doesn't have the right $HOME/.Xauthority, then GUI apps won't run.04:23
gnomefreakGorlist: we dont know yet when we know everytone will know04:23
RQHakker, it did work04:23
gnomefreakeveryone even04:23
Gorlistok thanks :)04:23
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RQHakker, what you did now was changed permissions and group for /var/www04:24
gore_wow I was just using nicotine04:24
gore_and it was eating 250mb of memory04:24
ccookewubunutuabi: If graphical apps are working fine, it's unlikely you have a problem :-)04:24
wubunutuabiYeah, all my other apps are fine04:24
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wubunutuabiFirefox, firestarter, xchat, kalarm04:24
wubunutuabiJust synaptic?04:24
wubunutuabiIf I restart will it fix itself?04:25
Hakker(RQ): well thanks for now :)04:25
ccookewubunutuabi: does synaptic fail to start, then?04:25
RQnp04:25
wubunutuabiYes it does sir04:25
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wubunutuabiIt just says "Failed to run usr/sbin/synaptic" in the title and tells me "Failed to copy users Xauthorization file"04:26
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Minsc37Has anyone experienced/fixed that infinite sound loop (the drumbeat) at the gdm login screen? I can log in okay, but then it stalls before loading the desktop, and I'm forced to restart the whole computer04:28
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Yagisanlast try. anyone here tried to cmakify a non-trivial application ? cmake is complaining about not finding my includes, even though they are specified.04:28
Bassettsis there any reason that text is so small in FF on ubuntu04:29
mMaster_hri have one problem, i can' t copy one file to root04:29
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hakanw_how do I specify such that only one user may sudo?04:29
SeveasmMaster_hr, you should not touch things outside your homedir without knowing wht you are doing...04:29
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Seveashakanw_, by default only the user added during install may use sudo04:30
mMaster_hrbut i must copy one file to install the modem driver04:30
Seveasso that's done already 04:30
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wubunutuabiccooke ... do you have any ideas?04:30
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hakanw_Seveas: uhm, you sure?  this is ubuntu-server, and it seems like all new users (added with adduser) can sudo and do stuff, I think?04:30
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mMaster_hrseveas, please give me your mail04:30
Seveashakanw_, that is not a standard ubuntu install then - only users in the admin group can use sudo04:31
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Seveasand no one is added to that group automatically04:31
manthony121I am having a problem with the live cd persistent mode with an Acer laptop.04:31
hakanw_Seveas: ok, then I want to change the name of the main account.  I tried chft but it didn't do anything04:31
hakanw_s/name/login04:31
manthony121If I try to use a usb stick, it hangs during boot04:31
Seveashakanw_, edit /etc/passwd and /etc/group manually for that and hope it works04:32
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manthony121and dumps me into a 'BusyBox' text mode04:32
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hakanw_Seveas: is that the recommended wya too? :)04:32
Seveasmanthony121, then plug in the usb stick after it's completely booted (known bug, will be fixed for edgy)04:32
Seveashakanw_, the recommended way is not doing it04:32
mMaster_hrseveas, will you help me?04:32
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hakanw_Seveas: I chose the wrong name during installation :)04:32
manthony121Seveas: didn't think of that!04:32
hakanw_it's just aestethical04:33
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Seveashakanw_, editing /etc/{passwd,group,shadow} should work04:33
JP_PIALASSEhello04:33
hakanw_Seveas: ok, thanks04:33
JP_PIALASSEi have a probleme with raki for sync pocket pc04:33
Seveasbut make sure you have another admin account just in case ;)04:33
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JP_PIALASSEthis error: Could not start dccm or dccm has exited.04:34
JP_PIALASSEMaybe there is already a dccm running04:34
mMaster_hrseveas, help me please04:34
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SeveasmMaster_hr, I have no experience with modem drivers so I cannot help you04:34
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hakanw_also, is it considered normal that all users can read stuff like the apache config?04:34
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Seveashakanw_, yes04:34
hakanw_this is the first time I'm administering a system04:34
mMaster_hri have readme file, but i can' t copy one file to a root folder04:34
amortvigilhow can i best install the server edition of dapper?04:35
hakanw_ok04:35
JP_PIALASSESeveas> any experience with pocket pc & ubuntu ?04:35
Seveasamortvigil, download server cd and boot from it 04:35
SeveasJP_PIALASSE, no04:35
JP_PIALASSE:(04:35
Seveasnot rich enough to have a pocketpc 04:35
[0x90] you have pocket billiard04:35
hakanw_nice, you were right that only the main user may sudo04:36
SubmMaster_hr,  are you sudoing cp to get it in there?04:36
mMaster_hrhow i can to copy files in root folder and whixh program open *.rpm?04:36
amortvigildo you need to have a special "server cd"04:36
amortvigil?04:36
SeveasmMaster_hr, you should be looking for ubuntu or debian instuctions for your modem...04:36
SubmMaster_hr, "sudo cp file /root" and rpm is like .deb but for red hat based machines04:36
Sub!rpm04:37
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).04:37
hakanw_amortvigil: I installed the latest ubuntu-server distro using the server cd, yes04:37
Seveasamortvigil, not per se04:37
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mMaster_hri'm crying now04:37
mMaster_hri can't connect to adsl on ubuntu04:37
mMaster_hri don't know how04:38
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larson9999new to ubuntu so i don't know but i'm curious how quickly things get put to the repository.  for instance ooo 2.03 is out now and i want to know if i should just download it from the site or wait till it hits the repositories.04:38
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sktxaww don't cry mMaster_hr04:38
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RQ:)))04:38
RQmMaster_hr, ah04:38
Seveaslarson9999, better wait - they are working on it04:38
basvghi all... I just installed Skype. Calling works, but skype doesn't seem to have found my microphone04:39
RQmMaster_hr, usb modem?04:39
basvgdoes anyone know how to fix this / where to start lookin'?04:39
larson9999seveas so you think in the next couple days?04:39
Boobekbye all04:39
mMaster_hrtrouh network card, but you may connect on usb04:39
Seveaslarson9999, I hope so but it may take longer04:39
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mcmanshutdown your linux and watch football! :D04:40
RQbasvg, try running "aoss skype"04:40
hakanw_really simple question, why doesn't sudo shutdown now really shutdown?04:40
mMaster_hrsry for my bad english04:40
RQhakanw_, try sudo poweroff04:40
basvgRQ: 'aoss skype' => command not found..04:40
RQmMaster_hr, no, network card is better04:40
RQbasvg, hmm..04:40
FCTEyour English seems fine04:40
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RQbasvg, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss04:41
mMaster_hrmy adsl is connected throught net. card04:41
RQmMaster_hr, can your modem work as a router?04:41
mMaster_hryes04:41
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basvgRQ: ok, it `knows' aoss now... let me see if this works, thanks fothe tip04:41
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jvcubuntuhey, can anyone help me with gcc??04:42
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RQbasvg, even if it doesn't, it's better to run it with aoss04:42
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RQmMaster_hr, then it's easiest to configure it as a router04:42
FCTEI could never get my external Creative sound to work right, it would play system sounds, but games and streamcast = no sound, it would lock up the card. I just use the onboard sound and it works great.04:42
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forsestHey - wondering how I can get the ubuntu boot splash back, after having installed and then removed xubuntu-desktop ?04:43
RQmMaster_hr, do you know how to do that?04:43
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mMaster_hrno, i'm newbie04:43
jvcubuntudoes anyone use ubuntu to development?04:43
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pianoboy3333Who here is using xchat-gnome? Please tell me if this bug applies to you: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/post_bug.cgi04:43
kaothi alll, quick question:  I'm about ready to upgraded to 6.06.  Will this certainly wipe my ~/ or can that be preserved during the install?04:43
FCTEI tried to change usplash in Dapper like in Breezy and it crashed my xserver04:44
RQmMaster_hr, read the manual for your modem. If you can set it as a router, then do this. if you cannot, you'll have to compile a nice proggy for you, or use console to get online04:44
RQthe choice is up to you04:44
RQkaot, if you do an upgrade, it will be preserve04:44
RQd04:44
kaotcool.  thank you.04:44
RQjvcubuntu, JUST ASK04:44
mMaster_hrrq, thnx, i found a manual on croatian04:44
hakanw_RQ: weird, it says the system goes down to halt but it just stopped there04:45
jvcubuntui'm having trouble when linking c sources to header, it says "undefined reference to <function>"04:45
RQkaot, i hope you know how to do the upgrade04:45
FCTEyeah, I like fresh installs, the upgrades always have problem, having a brown usplash is not as big a nuissance as having program running issues.04:45
RQhakanw_, just waitmaybe :)04:45
hakanw_RQ: shouldn't take more than a few minutes, should it? :)04:45
FCTEupgrading??04:45
FCTEit takes forever04:45
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Seveasjvcubuntu, guess you forgot an #include...04:45
RQhakanw_, yup :)04:45
hakanw_it's like "[58667,2342]  Power down"04:46
RQhakanw_, well maybe it doesn't work in sudo, dunno... :)04:46
jvcubuntuSeveas: i'm not that stupid.. :)04:46
RQhakanw_, or maybe something got broken :))04:46
hakanw_urr04:46
FCTEyou can burn a new ISO and have it up and running with all of your custmization in a quarter of the time it takes to upgrade04:46
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hakanw_so that's how you shut off your computer remotely?04:46
Seveasjvcubuntu, ah, you're linking already, forgot an -l I guess04:46
hakanw_I'd like to avoid using the power button04:46
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RQhakanw_, hmm... try "init 0" or so04:47
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jvcubuntuSeveas: when i put .h in include it won't work, but when i put .c it works fine... the header is at the same directory as the source04:47
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RQjvcubuntu, it doesn't look so :))04:47
Seveasjvcubuntu, you must link in all object files in the link step, but compiling help is far too offtopic in here..04:47
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amortvigilSeveas: the problem is i installed xampp before it did work for others but not for me because im behind a firewall and the only thing i can ever see on my ip is my router04:47
RQjvcubuntu, AFAIK, you always include .h, not .c04:47
hakanw_weird, I had to power it off on the button04:47
hakanw_oh well04:47
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Seveasamortvigil, xampp is silly to use on ubuntu...04:48
jvcubuntuRQ: I know, but the .h doesnt work04:48
amortvigilSeveas: i noticed04:48
basvghmmm, which all do I use to check my audio settings? I recall that breezy had a applications->sound->configuration or something04:48
RQjvcubuntu, debug it04:48
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Seveasjvcubuntu, please move to ##C or #ubuntu-offtopic04:48
jvcubuntuRQ: at the linking step? how?04:48
Seveasthis channel is for ubuntu support, not compiling help04:48
amortvigilSeveas: now i installed just lamp by apitude04:48
RQjvcubuntu, maybe you're missing something in INCLUDE_PATH or something04:49
jvcubuntuSeveas: tanks, i didnt know about it04:49
RQi'm not a programmer04:49
amortvigilSeveas: it still gives the xamp dir when i type local host:S04:49
Seveasamortvigil, removed xampp already?04:49
amortvigilSeveas: yes04:49
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Seveasand did you kill xampp apache?04:50
amortvigilhow?04:50
amortvigilSeveas: how?04:50
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rixthBah. I wish #ubuntu allowed tor.04:51
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rixthOne of the few-ish channels on Freenode that doesn't04:51
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FCTEWhat command gets my machine to make coffee?04:53
spikebFCTE: something about java....04:53
FCTE:)04:54
RQFCTE, make coffee04:54
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RQrq@sugar:/usr/src/xfreecd $ make coffee04:54
RQmake: *** No rule to make target `coffee'.  Stop.04:54
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dajoruman tee04:55
tlaxignore HellNet` ALL04:55
tlaxerr04:55
nitchewhat the HELL04:55
froudhi, is there an equivalent program to KFloppy installed on Ubuntu?04:55
jmewho is desperate enough to spam IRC these days04:55
basvgRQ: heh, with 'aoss skyhpe' I can't even hear the other end04:55
nitchekiddies... they never get bored i guess.04:56
dribblejme, ahah04:56
RQfroud, what does it do?04:56
RQbasvg, hmm..04:56
RQi coud04:56
RQat least i hear the calls04:56
froudRQ:  Format floppy disks or zip disks04:56
RQfroud, mkfs does that ;D04:56
FCTEDoesn't it autokick you for spamming and scrolling04:56
basvghmm, let me check gnome-alsamixer04:56
froudRQ: I know the cmd line, but I must use GUI tools for training desktop users04:57
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RQfroud, places > computer > right click on the floppy04:57
RQtry this04:57
amortvigildoes any one see xampp here?? http://213.84.241.10604:57
froudRQ thanks04:57
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basvgright, unmuted04:58
basvgunmuted *everything*04:58
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basvgmuh, at least i can hear ppl again... /me fiddles a bit more05:05
RQ:)))05:05
RQbasvg, did you run it without aoss now?05:05
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basvghmm, using gnome-sound-recorder => it just doesn't seem to see my mic. When I record something it's only static!05:08
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CyorOk I am using my wireless card to get net connection from my router (connected to my dsl modem) and I want to use my hard-wired card to share the net connection this PC has with others around it through a hub...05:08
CyorWhat I was going to try was moving my routers IP from 192.168.0.1 to something else so I could bridge the two connections on my pc and enable internet connect sharing (which wants to use 192.168.0.1) - BUT MY modem seems to refuse to talk to anything that is -not- 192.168.0.1, so I cannot do this...05:08
Cyorany suggestions?05:08
basvgdoes anyone here have a sip-number? want to try if my mic works in Ekiga05:09
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LynoureCyor: sounds like a problem best helped by support people of your modem makers (05:09
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flxHi05:10
flxI have a simple question:05:10
flxcan i migrate from debian to ubuntu without wiping my harddrive?05:10
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_Arvydas_Hello, I am getting an error when "Starting enterprise volume management system": <numbers>Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block<numbers>. This was when booting live cd from my cd recorder. When I boot from dvd recorder and click on start or install ubuntu, it just says "Error reading from boot CD" and above, "Disk error 10, AX=4200 drive 9F. Could it be that my dvd device is not suported or a trouble with it? What is dm05:10
Seveas_Arvydas_, I'd suggest checking the cd...05:11
_Arvydas_Seveas , I checked and all is ok :S05:11
Seveasflx, some apt-pinning magic and dist-upgrading should work. It's not supported though05:11
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Lynoureflx: probably, with loads of work, at least if you have enough empty space to repartition a place for ubuntu, then after that and isntalling & moving your stuff, repartition again to get rid of debian05:11
_Arvydas_the checksum gave no errors05:11
flxhmmm05:12
RQ_Arvydas_, try removing the DVD device for a while05:12
SeveasLynoure, that shouldn't be neccessary05:12
flxwhat i want to save is actually only /home05:12
flxand that is a big partition05:12
Lynoureflx: but, I'd recommend for backing up, installing ubuntu and copying home & other relevant data back05:12
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flxi don't have the space to move that back and forth, that will take ages05:12
LynoureSeveas: I thought it actually might be safer, though much work05:12
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Seveasflx, if /home is on a separate partition it's dead easy05:13
Cyberaiflx, I am late to this, but something you said sounds like I might know a good answer for you05:13
Cyberaiwhat is it you need to accomplish?05:13
eugmanHey is there a terminal command to change screen resolutiona dn what does && do exactly?05:13
Seveasjust tell the installer not to touch that partition and mount it as /home05:13
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Seveas!fixres > eugman05:13
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flxok, so standard feature of the installer05:13
finalbetaaticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1.0 < I wanted to install ATI drivers, little help please05:14
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finalbetaThis is the one :https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=2705:14
eugmanIt's not broken, Seveas. 'd like to have it in a script.05:14
digip1mpHow do I install a font file "myfont.fon"?05:14
Lynoureflx: Seveas's advice there is worth taking. I'd still recommend backing up before, if you can, just in case (but I like backups in general)05:14
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Seveaseugman, man xrandr05:14
Cyberaifinalbeta, do a google search on libfglrx, figure out what package provides it, and then see if you can install that with synaptic05:14
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flxyeah, that would mean an awful lot of cds again ...05:15
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Seveas!font05:15
ubotuInstalling fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package05:15
Cyberaifinalbeta, I know that sounds a little rtfm, but I have found that 90% of the time its the best avenue to persue05:15
Cyberaierr pursue05:15
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flxanyway, thanks for the help05:16
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Cyberaiubotu, digip1mp - I would advice finding and installing Automatix and use it to install the fonts you need05:16
ubotuI know nothing about digip1mp - I would advice finding and installing Automatix and use it to install the fonts you need05:16
flxanother question: i am actually using my debian box as a server (files etc)05:16
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Cyberaiholy cow05:16
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Cyberaiword for word, freakin amazing kreskin over here05:17
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flxdoes ubuntu desktop come with samba, nfs etc or do i have to fiddle?05:17
kazukisanHello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.05:17
SeveasCyberai, ubotu is a bot...05:17
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Cyberaiah05:17
Cyberaiwow05:17
SeveasCyberai, and automatix is not to be advised05:17
Cyberaithat freaked me out a little05:17
Seveas!automatix05:17
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.05:17
Kibouhehe05:17
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stefg"easyubuntu05:18
stefg!easyubuntu05:18
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.05:18
Cyberaifunny, I used Automatix on 4 systems (dapper) with no probs05:18
Seveas!sense05:18
ubotuCommon Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.05:18
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Seveas"Works for me" does not mean it is ok. <-- remember that05:18
Cyberaiwow, I'm getting b*tch slapped by a bot05:18
Seveasmuha :05:19
Cyberaianywayz...05:19
CyberaiI need a little help with a wireless issue if anyone has time and expertise...05:19
Seveas!ask05:19
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ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)05:19
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bit_doidaohello all! I have a ubuntu already set up, but i discovered that i can install a specific kernel for my computer (amd atlhon xp). How can i do it? I have nvidia installed too.05:21
CyberaiI have a hawking card based on the ACX-111 chipset installed in a desktop system. The system sees the card, It shows up in the network config, kernel modules are loaded. But it never picks up my wiress base station, or any of the base stations in my apt complex (it's a war drivers wet dream)05:21
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kazukisanHello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.05:21
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dockocan anyone help me setup a ssl irc server? when i configure solid-ircd, encryption and ssl connections are disabled, despite they should be enabled by default... i have openssl installed, i don't have a clue where the problem can be...05:21
Cyberaibit_doidao, launch synaptic and find the kernel best for your chipset, install it and also search synaptic for the nvidia stuff05:21
kindorwhatsup with http://help.ubuntu.com05:22
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bit_doidaoCyberai, all have to reconfigure my nvidia for the new kernel?05:22
bit_doidaoall == i will05:22
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Cyberaibit, not necessarily05:23
kindorhow can one define a global menu for all users on the system?05:23
Stormx2Whats the best way of formating a partition from ubuntu?05:23
Seveasbit_doidao, just install the linux-k7 package05:23
SeveasStormx2, mkfs05:23
Cyberaibit_doidao, I would advise installing the new kernel first, reboot, then install the nvidia stuff from synaptic. Or alternatively go to nvidia's website, download the latest driver and install it from the command line (actually rather simple)05:23
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SeveasCyberai, please don't give bad advise05:24
Stormx2Seveas: Alright. Is there anything in the wiki/docs about it?05:24
Seveasthe nvidia driver included with ubuntu is the latest05:24
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Seveasand it doesn't get much simpler than installing a package...05:24
CyberaiI'm sorry Seveas, I was unaware that the ubuntu package was up to date05:24
Cyberaisorry for trying to help05:25
Cyberaithought that was what this channel was about05:25
Yagisanwell, someone else could move the mouse for you, that would be even simpler05:25
Stormx2Seveas: I want to make it a FAT partition, that ok?05:25
bit_doidaoCyberai, thank you!05:25
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SeveasStormx2, mkfs -t vfat 05:25
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Stormx2Seveas: Mmm ok05:25
bit_doidaoCyberai, im looking into two kernels, linux-k7, and linux-k7-smp, the smp one is a advanced version or something like this?05:26
[1] billfor multiple processors.05:26
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FullerHello all.05:27
R3linquish3rbit_doidao: smp is for dual core processors05:27
bit_doidaoR3linquish3r, hummm, this is not my case :P05:27
bit_doidaounfortunately =)05:27
Cyberaiwell, I'm not an expert in that area. But I remember hearing something about the smp kernels having better threading or something. I know they are specifically designed for multiple processor systems. But I have heard of people installing them on single cpu systems because of some advantage.05:27
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SeveasCyberai, there are no separate smp kernels anymore05:27
Cyberaiah05:28
Seveasall ubuntu kernels (except the -386 ones) do smp05:28
Stormx2Seveas: So, mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda505:28
Stormx2Right?05:28
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Cyberaiwell, I have to wander around between ubuntu and fedora/redhat, so sometimes I don't know things that are particular05:28
bit_doidaoCyberai, ill have to select my new kernel from the grub menu, right?05:28
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SeveasStormx2, if /dev/hda5 is to be wiped: yes05:28
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Stormx2Seveas: Alright, good :)05:28
R3linquish3rwould it be possible for someone to help me with a problem i am having with a CD?05:28
Stormx2I guess unmount it first too :P05:28
alecks'lo all05:28
FullerI have an XGL problem, anyone here have the knowhow to help me out?05:28
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basesofthi05:29
R3linquish3ri gave up on XGL :/05:29
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Cyberaibit_doidao, It might set it at the default kernel whan u install it. You can check int eh grub menu when you boot05:29
Stormx2Seveas: Woh is it meant to work in about a second? o.O05:29
FullerWhat part did you get stuck on R3linquish3r?05:29
alecksFuller: what is the problem you are having?05:29
R3linquish3rFuller: running it05:29
bit_doidaoCyberai, R3linquish3r, Seveas, THANKS A LOT!05:29
R3linquish3rno prob05:30
bit_doidaoill wait for the download05:30
Stormx2Seveas: Brilliant! Worked an absolute treat05:30
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bit_doidaohehehe05:30
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bit_doidaohaushuashuahsuahsaus05:30
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Stormx2Now I have the funfun task of getting all my data to the partition :P05:30
Cyberaibit_doidao, if it's not and you want it to be the default, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.list to set it as so. I am sure Seveas may have an opinion on the elegance of that. But it works for me05:30
ElazarI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and have FF 1.5.0.4 installed. I recently installed the Google Browser Sync extension and now I can't get FF to come up with my profile (i.e. can't get it to run unless I switch to another profile). I tried remarking that extension's entry out in the extension.ini file in my profile folder, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect. I've tried executing firefox from the terminal and the task just terminates premature05:30
R3linquish3rfor some reason both my cd drives say there is no data on my 4th KOTOR CD. It works fine in windows though. anyone know what might be the problem?05:30
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CyberaiKOTOR?05:30
kazukisanHello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.05:30
R3linquish3rKOTOR= Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic05:31
Fulleralecks, I've been following the CompositeManager/Xgl guide in the UbuntuWiki.05:31
Cyberaikazukistan, unplug it, plug it in, then do a "dmesg" and see if it even sees it05:31
SeveasCyberai, well, menu.list is a bit special in Ubuntu - you need to watch out with your edits or you can lose them after kernel upgrade 05:31
ZhangZhongi want to study the kernel development  anyone can help? especially which step should i take first?05:31
CyberaiSeveas, yeah, I always make a backup JIC05:31
Fulleralecks: I get to the part where I make an XGL session, and things go wrong. You know how when you log into gnome, a little graphic pops up and shows you the things that are loading as they load?05:32
SeveasZhangZhong, buy Robert Loves book about the linux kernel, read it, subscribe to lkml or read kerneltraffic05:32
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bit_doidaoCyberai, yes... backup.. if it goes wrong, i run the live cd and chroot it?05:32
R3linquish3rdoes anyone know why windows can read the disc but linux cant? it used to before i clean installed dapper05:32
Cyberaithat would work bit_doidao05:32
kazukisancyberai, doesnt sayanyting about it and still doesnt see it only thing dmesg outputs is a bunch of stuff about internet and fglrx05:32
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Seveastard05:33
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bit_doidaokazukisan, you can filter the dmesg output with dmesg | grep expression05:33
Cyberaikazukisan, if you plug something else USB into that port that you know works, does dmesg give you anything?05:33
ElazarI'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and have FF 1.5.0.4 installed. I recently installed the Google Browser Sync extension and now I can't get FF to come up with my profile (i.e. can't get it to run unless I switch to another profile). I tried remarking that extension's entry out in the extension.ini file in my profile folder, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect. I've tried executing firefox from the terminal and the task just terminates premature05:34
kazukisancyberai: i plug in a camera and it works05:35
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snedarElazar: do you have any important data in fx? like bookmarks? otherwise you could remove ~/.mozilla and re-try installing browser sync05:35
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Reyffehey, anyone know any good terrain generators for ubuntu?05:35
alecksReyffe: like Terragen for winders?05:36
Sukitotovista is great just nothing works yet05:36
danbelgiangood afternoon peeps,got an ergent question for ya05:36
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danbelgianwhat is the default root password,?05:36
snedarSukitoto: I can work with vista, no problems so far05:36
Reyffealecks - yeah somethin like tha twould be nice05:36
danbelgianI installed from the live cd05:36
Elazarsnedar: Suppose you're right. I'll try that.05:36
bit_doidaodanbelgian, doesnt have one05:36
Jack_Sparrowdanbelgian: there isnt one05:36
bit_doidaodanbelgian, you cand use sudo instead of the properly root05:36
danbelgiank thanks bit_doidao,Jack_Sparrow05:37
Jack_Sparrownp05:37
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copyofjohandoes anyone know a repository for xen-packages for dapper?05:37
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alecksReyffe: I haven't heard of one, but you could try it under wine =/05:37
snedarElazar: here the extension works, though fx crashes when using gmail chat. I don't know whether browser sync is the problem there. beware that browser sync does make your browser slow, so don't blame ubuntu if that's the case :-)05:37
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Reyffealecks: thanks, i was going to try it but thought i'd ask here first. off i go!05:38
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alecksreyffe: i dunno if it will work tho05:38
Elazarsnedar: I understand. I actually blogged about the idea of browser sync before Google released theirs. ;)05:38
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alecksReyffe: I shall try too tho05:38
snedarElazar: yes, it's an interesting idea. could work for the whole OS too, if some company could host your complete home directory.. what's the url of your article?05:39
Elazarsnedar: http://bluelyte.sytes.net/blog/archive/2205:39
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Libra102hello..05:39
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Elazarsnedar: The blog could definitely stand a redesign and I'm working on that, but the data is there. I wrote about it last December and reviewed a few of the inherent problems in the idea.05:40
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Libra102how can I do it .. Movie encoding.. for PDA or PMP ?05:40
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nico8481hello05:40
alecksReyffe: Nevermind, the installer is a .msi =/05:40
copyofjohanwhat package do I need for opening debs with file-roller05:40
copyofjohan?05:40
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Libra102I am on Ubuntu. how can I do it Encoding Movie For PMP?05:41
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kazukisanHello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck. when i plug it in dmesg says nothing about it and i tried a usb camera and that works fine ?05:41
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Elazarsnedar: It might be that Browser Sync doesn't like me using Tab Mix Plus when I have Tabs and Windows set to save. I don't really need that particular thing saved, so I'll try disabling it and see what happens.05:43
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aleckskazukisan: does magicspin need drivers normally?05:43
kazukisanalecks: im not sure for linux05:43
aleckskazukisan: or is it just plug and play normally05:44
sktxtab mix plus rocks my socks05:44
kazukisanalecks: in windows its plug and play i think05:44
sktxgreat little extention, that one.05:44
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snedarElazar: ok, good luck. your blog looks interesting btw, I'll add it to my feed thing :-) an open protocol would indeed be interesting, or at least interoperability with other browsers (through google toolbar in IE?)05:44
Elazarsnedar: Thank you. :) Glad you approve. The protocol could theoretically be implemented at the plugin level rather than the browser level so long as the browser supported a plug-in architecture powerful enough to facilitate it (e.g. Firefox).05:45
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kazukisanalecks: This is what i have http://www.iomagic.com/Products/show_all_results.asp?ProdID=IDVD8DBE05:46
Jack_Sparrowkazukisan: It does need drivers for windows... http://discussions.virtualdr.com/printthread.php?t=20124905:46
kazukisanso i need drivers for linux ?05:47
Jack_SparrowMost likely05:47
aleckskazukisan: right there it says requirments are Win XP... =/05:47
kazukisanalecks: most stuff says that05:47
kazukisandoesnt mean it wont work in linux05:47
Jack_SparrowAgreed05:47
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Jack_Sparrowalecks: Usually it means they provide no drivers or support for anything but XP05:48
alecksbut if it requires the drivers and there are none for linux...05:49
Jack_Sparrowalecks: We are saying the same thing.. Wasn't trying to agrue05:50
schmakki need glib-gettext >= 2.2.0 installed, but it doesnt seem to be in any of the repositories.. do i have to build it from source?05:50
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jamesstansellThere's a command that I want run when Ubuntu reboots, and I'm trying to find out what file to add it to.05:50
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alecksJack_Sparrow: sorry wasnt really following haha05:50
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Jack_Sparrowalecks: np05:51
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kristianhow do I remove installed drivers? ati drivers, fglrx drivers, and so on :P want to remove them to install them again..05:51
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simon360I was installing Ubuntu, but during installation, my computer died (shut down) without being told to. I was greeted on next boot by grub>. I figured out how to boot windows, but would it be a good idea to try and boot Ubuntu?05:53
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jamesstanselldid grub have an entry for ubuntu in it's menu?05:54
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Jack_SparrowIs Nautilus in the menus, I want to move it to my toolbar..05:54
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SeanTaterI (compiled &) installed the kde xpenguins applet, how do I get it on kicker?05:55
Jack_Sparrowjamesstansell:  Are you looking for the grub menu.lst?05:55
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amortvigilim builidng a webserver i worked with xampp before, ive deleted it and now i used ampitude too install amp  but when i look at localhost it still shows the xampp not found page05:56
amortvigilwhat cna i do?05:56
jamesstansellthis isn't quite what I had in mind, but I'll give it a try: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg28t5.htm (Run a system command automatically at startup)05:56
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jamesstansellthe places menu starts nautilus05:57
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danbelgianhello again peeps terribly sorry but there seems to ber a default passwd for su05:58
simon360sorry. I didn't get a menu, I got a prompt05:58
nathanael!xgl05:58
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:58
jamesstanselljack_sparrow: I was asking simon360 about his system05:58
danbelgiani needed it for package installation as well05:58
ajayc_TomB, hey05:58
alecksamortvigil: xampp is running when you check correct?05:58
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danbelgiandoes anyone know about it?using live cd installed to hdd05:59
nathanaelI set up XGL - but when I boot into the XGL session I get "fatal error:screen not found" - any ideas?05:59
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aleckshey, how many people here who requested CDs near the beginning have recieved them?06:00
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FCTEexit06:00
nathanaelnot me06:00
amortvigilalecks: i havent killed it yet ..im not sure how to do that?06:01
danbelgiank sorry peeps just found the answer :)06:01
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jamesstansellsimon360: I'm not positive but I think not having a menu probably means the grub menu.lst didn't get created.  But I'm not sure where that happens during the installation.06:02
alecksamortvigil: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start06:02
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jamesstansellsimon360: I would probably try to install again, and try to take good notes in case the install fails again06:03
simon360ok06:03
simon360it's a harrdware problem06:03
imbrandon_anyone here on ppc know about yaboot.conf ? for some reason i cant boot into osx anymore ( ubuntu as fine , as thats what i'm on atm )06:03
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simon360my laptop keeps overheating, and toshiba is giving me no customer support even in windows06:03
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jpgvietnamhi06:04
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useronedoes anyone know how I can VIEW a MS Publisher file in Ubuntu?06:04
FullerHey all. I was able to log into my XGL session. I have some more common problems now, I think. Can anyone help me figure them out?06:04
jamesstansellsimon360: stories like that are one reason I haven't bought a laptop yet06:04
kristianHow do I check what kernel version I have?06:04
d00bysimon360, search the web for laptop coolers06:04
alecksFuller: what sort of problems06:04
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jamesstansellkristian: at a command prompt: uname -a06:05
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amortvigilalecks: strange thats not what i use06:05
kristianjamesstansell: Thanks :)06:05
jamesstansellkristian: or look in synaptic, or in the grub menu06:05
useronedoes anyone know how I can VIEW a MS Publisher file in Ubuntu?06:05
njanalecks, I have.06:05
kristian2.6.15-25-k7, is this the version?06:06
kristian*my06:06
simon360jamesstansell and d00by: I have too many other problems with that laptop. Never buy toshiba satellites (specifically the a70).06:06
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bderrlyuname -r is more to the point if you're looking for kernel version06:06
useroneanyone?06:06
alecksamortvigil: maybe we're not talking about the same thing then -_-;;06:06
bderrlyuserone, Open Office maybe?06:06
Jack_Sparrowthanks james06:06
Lynoureuserone: maybe. Have you tried searching the web for the answer yet?06:07
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jamesstanselluserone: have you searched to see if anyone's tried wine?06:07
useronebderrly: thanks..I tried that already...what do I import the file as?06:07
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Stormx2barney@deepthought:~$ cp "/media/Media/Backups from Win 2000" /media/Stuff06:07
Stormx2cp: omitting directory `/media/Media/Backups from Win 2000" <---- Meh? Why is it ommitting it? It is a big folder but....06:07
bderrlyuserone, i have no idea, i've never used publisher...06:07
jamesstanselluserone: maybe crossover office?06:07
alecksamortvigil: you're using XAMPP correct?06:07
bderrlyStormx2, cp -a06:08
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kristiansudo apt-get install linux-header-version-of-your-kernel, sudo apt-get install linux--2.6.15-25-k7 ??06:08
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FullerHey all, sorry I crashed. Apparantly any gnome animations at all really lag down the system here in my CGL session.06:09
usfhi06:09
FullerXGL...06:09
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Stormx2bderrly: Thanks! working :)06:09
FullerAnyway, I think I'll be good for now, so can anyone help me out?06:09
bderrlyStormx2, glad to help06:09
aleckswhat problems are you having fuller?06:09
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usfi search someone who can help me to config my kismet for my wireless card06:09
usfplease :)06:09
bderrlyFuller, understand that XGL is alpha quality code...it probably won't work or work well if it does06:10
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Stormx2I decided to format my Windows 2000 directory so I can free up space on my 80gber for more music :D06:10
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usfjuste the file conf kismet.conf06:10
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cobraderahy all06:10
Fullerwhoa, almost crashed again06:10
cobraderai need some help pls06:10
Fullerhow do I shut off the flashing taskbar elements?06:10
cobraderai'm not a guru in linux06:10
bderrlycobradera, ask...06:10
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cobraderaok06:11
eonwhat is a good command line application to convert VOBs to MPEG or AVI?06:11
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Fullerbderrly I understand. But I can't seem to get any of the plugins to work. I think I may be missing one in the order.06:11
usfHi all , i need help for configure kismet tool for my wireless card , someone can help me please ?06:11
Fullertransset, i think it's called06:11
amortvigilalecks: i followed this howto : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NlLampHowto?highlight=%28lamp%29 but its dutch06:11
cobraderai have a pc with linuyx and another one with winxp06:12
eon!mpeg06:12
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:12
kristiancan someone help me with installing a driver to my graphic card? i got a guide here, but don't now how to write the codes..(it's little hard for my little brain)06:12
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animato!nvidia06:12
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:12
Jack_Sparrowkristian: WHat video card?06:12
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ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows06:12
SS2does anybody know an aplet for filetransfering between two computers with irda?06:12
bderrlyFuller, i haven't been able to get XGL to work at all on my box so i'll be no help to you.  i just want people to realize that it probably won't work for another 6months to a year06:12
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kristianjack_Sparrow: Ati 9800 Pro, this is06:13
kristiannot the same guide as the howto.06:13
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alecksamortvigil: ohhhh i thought you had used XAMPP to install it, which is a different thing06:13
podradandoes anyone know how to get language indicator in the system panel?06:13
Jack_SparrowRuning NV here... good luck..06:13
bderrlypodradan, right click the panel and select the keyboard language applet06:14
ramza3where is the list of packages I have already installed?06:14
ramza3through apt-get06:14
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podradanbderrly thanks06:14
cobraderaCan anyone help me , in ubunt i have some probl06:14
animatohello, how can i create new shortcuts on the xfce desktop?06:14
bderrlyramza3, dpkg -l | grep ii | less06:14
intelligiHey.06:14
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intelligiHow do I find files in Linux?06:14
bderrlyintelligi, find06:14
intelligiI downloaded something and I don't know where it is.06:15
jamesstansellramaz3: "dpkg -l" can tell you, or use aptitue to see06:15
ramza3bderrly, are these these the ones I instll?06:15
amortvigilalecks: i installed xampp before i used this but it looks like its not eintyrely gone because when i type localhost in browser it links too localhost/xampp06:15
intelligiIn amule.06:15
bderrlyramza3, yes06:15
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kristianwell jack_sparrow, you can't help me how to insert this code? sudo apt-get install linux-header-version-of-your-kernel, ?06:15
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bderrlyintelligi, find ~ -iname 'foobar.zip'06:15
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Jack_SparrowSorry, No06:16
alecksamortvigil: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp stop06:16
cobraderaCAN ANYONE HELP ME PLZ!!!!! HOW CAN I MAKE a GNOMEMEETING TO NETMEETING type of connection????06:16
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alecksamortvigil: then try06:16
cobradera!nvidia06:16
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:16
bderrlycobradera, enough with the caps06:16
kristianok :)06:16
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joebu23looking for some app help06:16
bderrlycobradera, call the netmeeting pc's ip address06:16
Jack_Sparrowcobradera: Not a good way to start, joining in and yelling at everyone06:16
cobraderasorry06:17
Yagisanmy eyes!06:17
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ramza3bderrly, hold on; I didnt install grep06:17
alecksamortvigil: if it still installed and running then that should stop it06:17
jamesstansellkristian: there should be a linux-header package that matches the linux-kernel package you have installed06:17
bderrlyramza3, no grep!!!06:17
cobraderadone that bderrly06:17
bderrlyi don't think i could live without grep06:17
cobraderabderrly, have yahoo mess id???06:17
ramza3I think this list is just all the packages intsalled06:17
cobradera???06:18
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bderrlycobradera, nope06:18
amortvigilalecks: dusnt work06:18
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Lynourebderrly: grep is addictive :)06:18
cobraderaso what can i do??06:18
bderrlyramza3, if you grep for 'ii' it is just what is currently installed06:18
amortvigilalecks: when i loacte or wereis lampp i cant find anything06:18
cobraderai called at net meeting and it didn't connect06:18
ramza3bderrly, is there something that tells me what I installed 'apt-get install XX'06:18
cobraderaan it be the firewall06:18
Lynourejoebu23: some app help is hard to give, but if you ask your question, it will probably get answered06:18
bderrlydpkg -l lists all packages, that is why you have to grep ii to show just installed06:18
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ShadowLurkerguyz06:18
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cobraderabderrly, can it be the firewall????06:19
bderrlycobradera, quite possibly06:19
joebu23looking for something to view whatever is coming into the firewire bus live, without going through Kino and the like06:19
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ShadowLurkerhow do i make Logitech QuickCam Messenger work on Ubuntu 5.10?06:19
intelligiHow do you change directories in the terminal?06:19
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bderrlyintelligi, cd06:19
erUSULintelligi: cd dir06:20
Lynourejoebu23: view, in what sense? you want to see the raw data that comes into firewire bus?06:20
erUSUL!commands06:20
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:20
bderrlyShadowLurker, did you google it?  i'm sure there is tons of information about it the interweb06:20
ShadowLurkerAnyone: How do I make Logitech QuickCam Messenger work on Ubuntu 5.1006:20
useroneI already looked online and there is nothing in Ubuntu I can find...06:20
joebu23Lynoure, yes I want to see whatever video is coming into the bus06:20
ShadowLurkeryes, i did06:20
alecksamortvigil: anythign in the /opt dir06:20
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Lynourejoebu23: if you view it without an app, it will not look like video...06:21
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ShadowLurkerbderrly: i did, and it came up with things like Logitech QuickCam Epress, but no Messenger06:21
ShadowLurkerbderrly: Messenger was under unsupported versions06:21
ShadowLurkerbut im sure there are other sites06:21
ShadowLurkeri just cant find 'em06:21
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ShadowLurker!QuickCam06:21
ubotuI know nothing about QuickCam06:21
ShadowLurker!Logitech06:22
ubotuI know nothing about Logitech06:22
alecksi love compiz ^_^06:22
ShadowLurker!Messenger06:22
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.06:22
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amortvigilalecks: no06:22
kristianjamesstansell, i don't think I have that package.06:22
joebu23Lynoure, I need some sort of app that will let me view the incoming video full-frame, as video06:22
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jamesstansellkristian: apt-cache search kernel-headers06:23
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Lynourejoebu23: I have never triend that myself. I assume what app can do it depends a lot on the video format.06:23
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gore_anyone here familiar with apache?06:23
nandovieirahi... what programs do you recommend for compare/merge files? something like winmerge...06:24
pppoe_dudegore_, #apache06:24
gore_hehe riight06:24
nandovieira(gnome-based)06:24
kristianahh, there is no kernel that have 2.6, all of them have 2.406:24
intelligiHow do I move a file?06:24
bderrlyShadowLurker, apt-get install qc-usb-source06:24
ShadowLurker*tries*06:24
bderrlyShadowLurker, you probably also want to get module-assistant06:24
ShadowLurkerhow do i get that?06:25
bderrlyShadowLurker, then read the docs for both packages and try it from there06:25
joebu23Lynoure: as good as I can tell, the video is coming into the computer on the ohci1394 device.  gscanbus does see the camera as this06:25
ShadowLurkerdo i have to add sudo to the front?06:25
bderrlyintelligi, mv06:25
bderrlyintelligi, you may want to look for a bash command line tutorial06:25
jamesstansellkristian: "apt-cache show linux-kernel-headers" show a 2.4 version?06:25
bderrlyShadowLurker, yes06:25
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intelligiIt seems I have screwed up amule by changing the temp directory.06:25
ShadowLurkerthanks06:25
kristianyes, many :P06:25
[0x90] PORTUGAL!!!06:26
intelligiHow do I fix it?06:26
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[0x90] intelligi, use some glue06:26
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dan_has any one tried edgy06:27
kristian2.4.27-2x06:27
jamesstansellkristian: I'm still on breezy, but I'm seeing "Version: 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13" for linux-kernel-headers06:27
ShadowLurkeri like breezy06:27
ShadowLurkeri'll update06:27
ShadowLurkerif06:27
ShadowLurkeri can figure out how06:27
[0x90] breezy is cold06:27
erUSULdan_: not wise to do it yet06:27
kristianhuh?? why are they so old here then?06:27
ShadowLurkerhow do i update?06:27
bderrlyShadowLurker, apt-get update06:27
ShadowLurkerthanks06:27
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ShadowLurker u mean "sudo apt-get update"? lol06:28
jamesstansellkristian: which ubuntu are you running?  is your apt sources.list correct?06:28
dan_use gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with edgy06:28
kristianubuntu 6.06..06:28
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ShadowLurkerwhich one do i do first dan_?06:28
kristiani think so...06:28
hctibtipotshow can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???06:28
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Lynourejoebu23: Sorry, I don't think I can help without doing a lot of looking up for that... but http://www.kinodv.org/ or the forums there can help, if there is no video geeks here06:29
joebu23Lynoure, thanks06:29
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intelligiThere is a folder in my home folder that I can't see.06:29
intelligiI can't see /home/justin/.amule06:29
dan_gedit then after that do a apt-get update  | apt-get upgrade06:29
ShadowLurkerintelligi: there's probably a reason for that06:29
hctibtipotshow can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???06:29
njanintelligi, there are lots, files starting in . aren't shown by default06:29
ShadowLurkerwhat if i did update first?06:30
njanintelligi, at the command line, you need to add -a to the ls command to see it, in a file manager there'll be an option to show hidden files.06:30
intelligiHow do I get into it with the file explorer?06:30
amortvigilcan sombody help me i deleted lampp but it still links my localhost what could i do?? yes lampp entirely gone06:30
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skavengegoto 'view' in nautilus and click 'show hidden files'06:30
njanintelligi, you can still cd into it or access it directly via the address bar in your file manager however.06:30
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amortvigili get a xampp page not found06:30
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FullerSorry, crashed again.06:31
intelligiI don't see an address bar in my file manager.06:31
hctibtipotshello????06:31
FullerThe thing that keeps making me crash is the flashing panel whenever there is an update to a window that is in the background.06:31
skavengegoto 'view' in nautilus and click 'show hidden files', again06:31
hctibtipotsanyone??06:31
hctibtipotshow can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???06:31
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kristianjamesstansell, how do i check source.list ?06:31
bderrlyhctibtipots, chown06:32
ShadowLurkerdan_: sources.list is Read Only06:32
jamesstansellkristian: what ubuntu version(s) show up with this command: "apt-cache showpkg linux-kernel-headers |head -5"?06:32
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hctibtipotsand then what after chown???06:32
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bderrlyhctibtipots, what are you trying to do?06:32
hctibtipotstrying to add skins to amsn...06:33
ShadowLurkerHELP!06:33
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kristian2.6.11.206:33
Fullercan anyone tell me how to shut off the flashing panel notification?06:33
hctibtipotsbut i dont have ownership of the skins folder to add folders to it06:33
bderrlyhctibtipots, can you add skins to a directory in your home folder?  most apps let you do that06:33
kristiani386, i thought i have updated that...06:33
bderrlyi'm not familiar with amsn06:33
ShadowLurkeranyone who can help me install 6.02 or whatever verison it is join #Upgrade06:33
lophytehctibtipots: look under ~/.amsn06:34
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bderrlyShadowLurker, you're trying to upgrade to breezy?06:34
intelligiOk, I fixed the conf file for aMule to put back to the default directories.06:34
jamesstansell!sources.list06:34
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource06:34
hctibtipotsnuttin06:34
ShadowLurkerno, from breezy06:34
lophytehctibtipots: amsn should create a hidden directory in your home directory.. and under that should be a skins folder that you have ownership of06:34
ShadowLurkeri want to get edgy or whatever06:34
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bderrlyShadowLurker, i wouldn't recommend upgrading past breezy if you don't even know how to do the upgrade06:35
jamesstansell!easysource06:35
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:35
lophytehctibtipots: try doing ls -la ~ and look for an aMSN folder that starts with a period06:35
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ShadowLurkerwhy?06:35
rolerI am trying to compile 2.6.17 using the unsupported kernel guide with git and all that. the latest 2.6.17 source can't mount my root filesystem, I imagine because of serial ata support is screwed. but I don't know for sure because I can't see whats going on,. During bootup, shoudn't I be able to press Escape or something to see the kernel log output?06:35
hctibtipotsi got it i think thanx lophyte06:35
ShadowLurkeri'm new to Ubuntu06:35
bderrlyShadowLurker, because it is extremely unstable right now06:35
lophytehctibtipots: np :)06:35
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ShadowLurkeroh06:35
ShadowLurkerok06:35
jamesstansellkristian: hopefully one of those links (Repositories or souce-o-matic) can help you06:35
ShadowLurkerthnx06:36
Fullercan anyone tell me how to shut off the flashing panel notification? does anyone know what i'm describing?06:36
ShadowLurkernow how do i use those two files u told me o get?06:36
MetaMorfoziShi all, please tellme a program, that can handle 5.1 sound set06:36
hctibtipotslophyte:now only if i could get java installed06:36
lophytehctibtipots: just java, or the java plugin for firefox?06:36
bderrlyShadowLurker, you're going to have to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/qc-express something for information on how to use the module06:36
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jamesstanselllooks like http://linux.about.com/ is a pretty good resource06:36
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ShadowLurkerfor jave use Easy Ubuntu06:37
hctibtipotsjava period06:37
ShadowLurkerjava*06:37
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lophytehctibtipots: one sec06:37
hctibtipotsok06:37
ShadowLurkerbderrly, how do i do that?06:37
kristianjamesstansell, the easysoruce has set up a list. I make a pastebin file and post it here, if u want to see it?06:37
ShadowLurkerlike i said06:37
Jack_Sparrowwhat folder has fstab?06:37
ShadowLurkerim new to Ubuntu06:37
jamesstanselljava is in the multiverse repository in dapper06:37
bderrlyShadowLurker, you mean new to linux?  ;-)06:37
fxroland2hi people06:37
FrogzooJack_Sparrow: /etc/fstab06:37
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Jack_Sparrowthanks06:37
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ShadowLurkerno, not linux, but i dont use it too much06:38
ShadowLurkerso06:38
lophytehctibtipots: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin06:38
ShadowLurkerbasically yea06:38
ShadowLurkerlol06:38
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bderrlyShadowLurker, less /usr/share/doc/qc-..../README06:38
lophytehctibtipots: those three packages should set up java for ya :)06:38
ShadowLurkertype that in the terminal?06:38
bderrlyyes06:38
kristianjamesstansell, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1694606:38
ShadowLurkerokay06:38
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fxroland2i need help for samba06:38
bderrlyShadowLurker, or you could use the text editor in the menu and point it to that directory06:38
ShadowLurkernah06:38
ShadowLurkeri like terminal06:38
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FullerAlright, so then can anyone help with with XGL again. I can almost promise I won't crash again, because I won't put this in the background so it flashes when it updates06:38
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hctibtipotsi did that in the synaptin manager06:38
ShadowLurkerand how is ur text red?06:39
lophyteanyone ever touched Win4Lin?06:39
bderrlybecause i'm putting your name in front06:39
bderrlyShadowLurker, see?06:39
fxroland2a cuestion = how i can create samba users from terminal aplication?06:39
jamesstansellkristian: that looks pretty good to me06:39
AlWrighthello06:39
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ShadowLurkerhow do u make ur text red bderrly?06:39
adamlinuxhow to i install ein mcs7780 usb irda adapter on ubuntu dapper?06:39
kristianokai :)06:39
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bderrlyShadowLurker, i already answered you above06:40
jamesstansellkristian: good luck.  I've got to leave now.06:40
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kristianjamesstansell, i don't now what to do anyway..:P no idea:P06:40
proctorhello06:40
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AlWrightWill ubuntu run ok on an old 400mhz laptop?06:40
ShadowLurkerbderrly: oh, so only u can see it?06:41
bderrlyAlWright, not if you plan on using gnome06:41
ShadowLurkerbderrly so only u can see it?06:41
ShadowLurkeror wha06:41
ShadowLurkerwhat?06:41
bderrlyShadowLurker, no, but it highlights it so it is easier for you to see a message for you06:41
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FullerSorry if my crashing is getting annoying, but i think i can work this time06:41
dan_400 mhz laptop try xubunutu06:41
AlWrightok, thanks for that06:41
ShadowLurkerokay, so if i say bderrly, or bderrly: i will hilight for u?06:41
bderrlyyep06:41
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ShadowLurkerbderrly, koolio06:42
bderrlythere is also tab completion, type bde and hit tab06:42
ShadowLurkerbderrly, i love linux so much, the only thing i dont like is having to find compatible programs and crap06:42
hctibtipotslophyte: it sez i have v.1.4.2 of java installed when i type java -version06:42
ShadowLurkerbderry: what do u mean hit tab?06:42
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jamesstansellkristian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories has some instructions for updating/replace your sources.list file06:43
bderrlyhctibtipots, update-alternatives --config java06:43
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rolerhow do I get rid of the ubuntu bootup screen temporarily and see what the kernel is doing?06:43
lophytehctibtipots: yeah, but its not Sun Java.. do what bderrly said06:43
AlWrightbye bye06:43
ShadowLurkerbie06:43
ShadowLurkerbrb06:43
boredomanyone around that runs lirc??06:43
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kristianjamesstansell, ok... I take a good look:)06:43
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hctibtipotssez permission denied06:44
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bderrlyhctibtipots, add sudo to the front of the command06:44
ShadowLurkerback06:44
MrRioroler, Well, there's the safemode, and here is how to do it with grub http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#disable-usplash06:44
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slonniki have problem : checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'06:45
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slonnikwhy06:45
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adamlinuxhow to i install ein mcs7780 usb irda adapter on ubuntu dapper?06:45
Fullerwould anyone be able to tell me if the transset plugin for Compiz is necessary?06:45
FullerI seem to be missing it.06:46
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ShadowLurkerbderrly06:46
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MrRioroler, You can also take that 'splash' bit off the end in the grub menu when you boot up, by pressed 'e' i think, then hitting 'b' to boot06:46
FullerAlso when I try to do things like the rain effect, nothing happens.06:47
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ericmoritz\0hi06:47
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paul_Anyone else get the gnome panel quit unexpectedly error when using the run application command line?06:47
FullerI can't seem to figure out why the XGL/Compiz effects aren't working.06:47
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lophyteFuller: are you sure Compiz is running?06:48
ericmoritz\0I have a reoccurring problem with firefox and flash.  Sometimes flash stops playing sounds.  anyone experience that?06:48
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slonnikhelp me please06:48
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gore_Fuller, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=13126706:48
atlantianHello, THis isnt 100% linux question but I wonder if anyone can help me, I want to boot from an external sata drive, I have brought a HDD enclosure, ICY Box, and have external SATA ports from my motherboard, the inards of the box are made for an ATA drive though and i brought a SATA drive especially for this, SO i have my ATA drive in there and connecting it to the computer using the SATA cable06:48
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atlantianI assumed this was find as the only different from SATA and ATA was speed as in you could use adapters etc to convert ATA to SATA and i thought thats what was happeneing is it?06:48
atlantianWhen i switch it on and boot the computer, the computer doesnt progress to boot to anything, and I cannot see the hard drive in BIOS etc, What Am i doing wrong?06:48
atlantianI want to be able to have a portable complete operating system basically,06:48
atlantianThanks06:48
hctibtipotsthanx for the help guys i got java werkin...06:49
lophytehctibtipots: awesome :)06:49
slonniki realy neeed help06:49
bderrlyslonnik, it helps if we know what you need help with...06:49
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slonnikchecking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'06:49
paul_jingle da java. mwahahahaha06:49
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hctibtipotsfinally 3 days later06:49
slonnikwhere can i take gtk+06:49
bderrlyslonnik, install the gtk+-2.0-dev package06:50
atlantiananyone can help?06:50
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bderrlyslonnik, what are you trying to compile?06:50
lophyteanyone ever played around with win4lin?06:50
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slonnikE: Couldn't find package gtk+-2.0-dev06:51
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slonniksynce-plugin06:52
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bderrlylibgtk2.0-dev sheesh...nobody is willing to do any looking for themselves these days06:52
slonniki am trying to compile synce-plugin06:52
ompaulPeikko_64x2, do not use public away message please turn that off now06:52
MetaMorfoziShave anybody working 5.1 sound system?06:53
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MetaMorfoziSwhat program needed to handle the 3 output's?06:53
Rieshow do I select a differenbt mirror for updating? apt-get update keeps on failign with package snot in gzip format06:53
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atlantiansorry but i have to ask again06:54
atlantianHello, THis isnt 100% linux question but I wonder if anyone can help me, I want to boot from an external sata drive, I have brought a HDD enclosure, ICY Box, and have external SATA ports from my motherboard, the inards of the box are made for an ATA drive though and i brought a SATA drive especially for this, SO i have my ATA drive in there and connecting it to the computer using the SATA cable06:54
atlantianI assumed this was find as the only different from SATA and ATA was speed as in you could use adapters etc to convert ATA to SATA and i thought thats what was happeneing is it?06:54
atlantianWhen i switch it on and boot the computer, the computer doesnt progress to boot to anything, and I cannot see the hard drive in BIOS etc, What Am i doing wrong?06:54
atlantianI want to be able to have a portable complete operating system basically,06:54
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atlantianThanks06:54
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bderrlyatlantian, that is really unecessary06:55
foxinesson windows am using x-chat ,bittorrent,filezilla and all this build wiht GTK and now i want to install x-chat 2 and the site of this port "Uninstall previous versions of GTK+ and X-Chat to be sure that you will not get any incompatibilities.",all time am here now if you can help me or point me to the right channel will be help for me thanks06:55
ompaulatlantian, something of that size can be put in a pastebin and then you can say I have a sata question - URL and you will get a better response06:55
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atlantianpastebin?06:55
ompaul!pastebin06:56
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:56
atlantiannever heard of a paste bin06:56
atlantiansorry06:56
ompaulatlantian, as they say in all the best movies, "you have now ;-)"06:56
atlantianhehe06:56
atlantianindeed thanks06:56
atlantianand sorry again06:56
kristianwhy dosn't " /etc/apt/sources.list" work??06:56
finalbetaI'm playing Enemy terretory. on windows I can use the windows button on the keyboard to exit the window. On linux I need to close the whole game, how can I exit the window without closing th egame?06:57
bderrlykristian, how is it supposed to work?06:57
ompaulatlantian, remove the internal drive set your bios to boot from "other" device and see how you go06:57
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kristiani want to see my source.list :P06:58
kristianlol06:58
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RiesNo method for other mirrors?06:58
slonnikwhere can i find gtk+-2.0-dev06:58
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ompaulatlantian, one step at a time - things like that - sata does not play fair with other disk tupes06:58
bderrlykristian, less /etc/apt/sources.list06:58
MetaMorfoziShave anybody working 5.1 sound system?06:58
MetaMorfoziSwhat program needed to handle the 3 output's?06:58
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bderrlyslonnik, i told you above06:58
fkzhello06:58
ompaulMetaMorfoziS, are they on or off and are you running dapper?06:58
MetaMorfoziSyes, i'm running dapper06:58
atlantianompaul, i have 1 300GB SATA in the machine atm, and the external is 80GB btw06:58
slonnikyou mean libgtk2.0-dev06:59
ompaulatlantian, well it looks like something does not like the external device in the bios06:59
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bderrlyslonnik, yep06:59
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atlantianwas i correct as in, the ATA drive in the ICY box and a serial ata cable connection, that is perfectly fine? i assumed the icybox would be serial ata inside06:59
ompaulatlantian, is it connected to the right cable when it hist the motherboard07:00
phprookiwhat ports does kopete use ?07:00
MetaMorfoziSompaul07:00
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MetaMorfoziSmy card have 3 outputs that can functions on 2 way, mic,linein, and out07:00
finalbeta!sound07:00
ubotuIf sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems07:00
MetaMorfoziSand, front back sub/center07:00
MetaMorfoziSso i need a program that enables the second mode, and handles it07:01
MetaMorfoziS:)07:01
atlantianyeah on the outside i have 2 SATA connectors07:01
atlantianexternal07:01
slonniki have installed but it didn't help07:01
atlantianmotherboard is nforce 4 a8n-sli so has external SATA07:01
AlexCHey, My Apache2 is not parsing/loading any other filetype apart from HTML, if I go to a .php file it will ask me to downloda it07:01
AlexCwhy is this07:01
mkobyHi all, I've got a Dell Optiplex GX240 with onboard AC'97 sound, and I just installed a new sound card, how do I get Ubuntu to use the new one instead of the onboard one?07:01
slonnikthe same issue07:01
kristianbderrly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine, why don't " /etc/apt...." work?07:01
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ompaulMetaMorfoziS, wait to talk with crimsun who knows more about this than anyone07:01
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MetaMorfoziSokay07:01
MetaMorfoziSthx07:01
bderrlykristian, you need to give it a command to view it, like 'less'07:01
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bderrlykristian, you can't just type in the file name07:02
ompaulatlantian, disconnect the internal and see if anything comes of it07:02
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slonnikehmm i m crying07:02
atlantianseems like a good idea, can i disable it software wise instead of hardware, i really dont want to have to get round the back of the millions of wires :D07:02
finalbetaIs their a page explaining how sound works, what is possible on ubuntu?07:02
kristianooh.. but why did i thought that i just have to write the file name to open the file, when they say that in the link?07:02
atlantianbut if needed i will07:02
mkobyOh, and I'm running Dapper (6.06)07:03
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ompaulatlantian, if you don't "play around with your options" you won't find out anything - the first thing I would do is plug the cable in the other sata socket and if that failed I would disconnect the internal one you should go to that now07:03
Ries!about mirror07:03
ubotuI know nothing about about mirror07:03
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Ries!about apt-setup07:03
ubotuI know nothing about about apt-setup07:03
ompaulatlantian, sata is one clip per drive07:03
alpaslonnik: try installing the -dev package  --->  gtk+-2.0-dev07:03
Ries!about gzip07:03
ubotuI know nothing about about gzip07:03
ompaulRies, you want an apt-cache iirc07:03
mkoby!about gunzip07:03
ubotuI know nothing about about gunzip07:03
ompauland stop fishing the bot07:03
mkoby!about zip07:03
ubotuI know nothing about about zip07:03
bderrlyhaha07:04
Riesompaul: I want a other mirror...... and I am looking for apt-setup07:04
mkobyPardon me.07:04
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bderrlyRies, find a mirror on the ubuntu website and change it in your /etc/apt/sources.list07:04
atlantianone clip per drive? sorry misunderstood07:04
cinzuto22rieccomi07:04
slonnikalpa - apt doesn't see gtk+-2.0-dev07:04
cinzuto22sn cinzuto07:04
bderrlyRies, i would make a backup of the original just to be safe though07:04
Riesbderrly: Ok..... i was looking for apt-setup since debian has it aswell....07:04
bderrlyslonnik, i told you what package to get...07:04
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mrcowcowanyone know of a good command line bittorrent client?07:04
Riesbderrly: it's a new installation.... but the current mirror can' finnish apt-get update07:05
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ompaul!easysource > Ries07:05
slonniki got that package and installed but it didn't help07:05
mkobyHi all, I've got a Dell Optiplex GX240 with onboard AC'97 sound, and I just installed a new sound card, how do I get Ubuntu to use the new one instead of the onboard one?  I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.07:05
kristianbderrly, you know how to update my kernel?07:05
mc__!dc > mc__07:06
ubotuI know nothing about dc07:06
bderrlykristian, what cpu do you have?07:06
MetaMorfoziSompaul: i have installed the ubuntustudio07:06
ompaul!msgthebot07:06
ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots07:06
MetaMorfoziSbut i dunno what i need to set:D07:06
slonniki run command apt-get install gtk+-2.0-dev07:06
MetaMorfoziSto get it work07:06
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slonniki have result apt-get install gtk+-2.0-dev07:06
kalosaurusrexanyone know how to correctly fix that for some reason my cpu fan doesn't work unless I run acpi -t ?07:06
ompaulMetaMorfoziS, no experience with that program07:06
stefgmkoby: If there is an option to disable the internal sound in the BIOS then do so07:06
bderrlymrcowcow, bittorrent package07:06
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kristianamd athlon 6407:06
mkobystefg, There is, what else do I need to do?07:06
kristiank-7 something..i just know ;)07:07
mrcowcowok, thanks07:07
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bderrlykristian, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-k707:07
stefgmkoby: may a 'sudo discover' helps07:07
stefg!sound >mkoby07:07
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ompaulkalosaurusrex, I suggest launchpad.net and search for a bug, if you see none then report a bug07:07
dtsueihi, em, does anybody use vmware server on ubuntu?07:07
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mkobyAnything else I should know, stefg?07:07
bderrlyslonnik, i said to get the libgtk2.0-dev package07:08
stefgcheck you PM tab07:08
mkobyI did.07:08
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kristianbedrrly, the command didn't find the package.07:08
kalosaurusrexokay thanks ompaul07:08
stefgyou should have received a link to ubuntus sound howto07:08
ompaulyw kalosaurusrex07:08
mkobyThanks for the help, stefg.07:08
slonniki installed libgtk2.0-dev and it didnt help i still have error checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'07:08
bderrlykristian, linux-image-k7, sorry07:08
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kristiannp :)07:09
bderrlyslonnik, it did help, you aren't erroring out on gtk+-2.007:09
livingdaylightyo yo yo!!!07:09
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livingdaylightHi Guys!!07:09
DocTomoeHi ... I had to reinstall kubuntu because my /-partition was physically broken (in the truest sense of that word) ... somehow, the packages for build-essentials does no longer seem to exist, just as the linux kernel headers ... any idea on this?07:09
bderrlyslonnik, why don't you install the dev packages for those packages listed?07:09
kristianIt's already installed :P Nice..07:09
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slonnikyou mean libglade ?07:09
fkzhow can i remove a driver that i installed with a file ".run" ?07:09
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bderrlykristian, in your irc client type this:  /exec -o uname -r07:10
bderrlyfkz, /usr/sbin/rmmod07:10
kristian /exex -o uname -r07:10
livingdaylightanyone know the nvidia 6600 gt agp graphics card?07:10
fkzthx07:10
stefg!nvidia07:10
ompaul!nvidia07:10
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:10
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alpaslonnik: try ---> sudo apt-get install gtk-dev gnome-dev07:10
Jack_Sparrowi have the pci e version07:10
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MetaMorfoziSso, anybody have working 5.1 sound system?07:11
kristian /exex -o uname -r07:11
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ompaullivingdaylight, please read the URL that ubotu put in the channel07:11
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bderrlykristian, /exec07:11
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kristianoops07:11
bderrlydon't put a space before it either07:11
kristian /exec -o uname -r07:11
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bderrlyhaha07:11
AlexCHey, My Apache2 is not parsing/loading any other filetype apart from HTML, if I go to a .php file it will ask me to downloda it07:11
ompaulMetaMorfoziS, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems07:11
Unintentionalhey, I'm trying to configure my router to support an ssh server.  is there any port I need to open/forward other than 22?07:11
kristianError: Could not find script "-o".07:11
fkzbderrly,  there is not rmmod file07:12
fkzor directory07:12
ZambeziIs anybody familiar with pftp?07:12
b14cki have this problem when i try to .configure a package : configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH07:12
stefg!faq>b14k07:12
Zambezib14ck, ./configure07:12
bderrlykristian, on the command line type: uname -r and paste it here07:12
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Chousukeinstall build-essential07:12
ompaulb14ck, have yo installed build-essential?07:12
stefg!faq> b14ck07:12
b14ckZambezi: ./configure :P typo07:12
kristian2.6.15-25-k707:13
b14ckty stefg07:13
b14ckompaul:  no07:13
bderrly2.6.15-25-k707:13
kristiandid you try to msg me bderrly?07:13
ompaulb14ck, install it sudo apt-get install build-essential07:13
bderrlykristian, what irc client are you using?07:13
kristianor pm or whater:P..07:13
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livingdaylightompaul: i don't see any channel by ubotu directed to me07:13
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b14ckompaul:  apt-get install build-essentials??07:13
kristiankonversation..07:13
bderrlykristian, i did a ctcp to get your irc client but it didn't respond07:13
ic56-7394test07:13
b14ckompaul: right thanx07:13
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DocTomoeompaul: that package does not seem to exist at my place07:14
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kristianbderrly, ok :P07:14
ompaulb14ck, no S at the end07:14
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Jack_Sparrowknoversation is very good07:14
ompaullivingdaylight, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto web page - url?07:14
Jack_SparrowUsing it here too07:14
kristiannice07:14
fkzis pentium Centrino considered as a 686 processor?07:14
WaernerHmm, can I list all versions of GCC installed on my system?07:14
b14ckompaul: just copy/paste ur command07:15
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chowells2fkz: yes, pentium 2 onwards is 68607:15
ompaulb14ck, should be happy give it your password and be happy07:15
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bderrlyWaerner, ls /usr/bin | grep 'gcc'07:15
nicholaspaulQ: I have a dual boot Powerbook (OSX + Dapper) and I just upgraded to 10.4.7 and yaboot isn't there.. how can i fix that???07:15
Waernerbderrly, thanks =)07:15
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b14ckompaul: ^_^07:16
ompaulWaerner, in 99% of cases build-essential is what is actually wanted, and it does not hurt in the other 1%07:16
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ompaulWaerner, dapper or breezy?07:16
Waernerompaul, what? :) I didn't get that... Dapper :)07:16
b14ckompaul:  so after thi i should be able to ./configure?07:16
b14ck*this07:16
kristianbderrly, as jamesstansell said earlier, he thought it was a little strange that when I do" apt-cache search kernel-headers " i only find old versions. (all 2.4) Do you know how i can fix that?07:16
ompaulWaerner, then it will be 4.0.307:16
ompaulb14ck, YES07:17
Waernerthanks07:17
b14ckty07:17
bderrlykristian, are you running dapper or breezy?07:17
kristiandapper07:17
stefgkristian: try linux-headers instead07:17
AlexCHow can I make it so that when I press the MUTE button on my keyboard, it Mutes ALL audio channels and not just the Master one?07:17
ompaulb14ck, being on irc it might be more useful if you had a nick like bL4ck cos that 1 gets typed as a lower case l and then you could be missing stuff - being hard to contact07:17
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livingdaylightompaul: thx for the link. But i'm not ready to install nvidia card yet. I am looking ot get one and wondered what is recommended?07:18
kristianstefg,nothing happen:P07:18
b14ckompaul: gd advice. i'll keep that in mind thanx07:18
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MrBrizzioyeah whats up?07:20
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ompaullivingdaylight, I would not suggest any  but that is me07:20
stefgkristian: apt-cache search headers | grep linux07:20
finalbetaI'm playing Enemy terretory. on windows I can use the windows button on the keyboard to exit the window. On linux I need to close the whole game, how can I exit the window without closing th egame?07:21
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A[D] minS!java runtime07:21
ubotuI know nothing about java runtime07:21
A[D] minS!java07:21
ubotujava is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository07:21
ompaul!java07:21
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stefghehe... ompaul has to grease his keyboard... he's always late :-)07:22
kristianstefg: Now I found much at version 2.6 ;)07:22
Jack_Sparrow!disk mounter07:22
ubotuI know nothing about disk mounter07:22
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livingdaylightompaul: huh? don't you use a graphics card?07:22
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A[D] minS!mount Jack_Sparrow07:22
ubotuI know nothing about mount Jack_Sparrow07:22
A[D] minS!mount07:23
ubotuDisks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks07:23
stefg:-)07:23
kristianlol,907:23
kristian;)07:23
ompaulA[D] minS, why not stop fisjhing the bot and use /msg ubotu KEYWORD and then get the message back to you07:23
A[D] minSompaul:  i used it only once07:23
Jack_Sparrow!diskmounter07:23
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions07:23
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AlexCA[D] minS, More than once!07:23
A[D] minSda other one for Jack_Sparrow> !disk mounter07:23
Jack_SparrowJust checking, that script is great..07:24
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Jack_Sparrowwanted to be sure the bot had info07:24
ompaullivingdaylight, I don't tell people about cards - that is for them to find out about07:24
A[D] minSany way sorry07:24
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A[D] minSnext time will not use ur bot07:24
refuzeanybody use an ipod with dapper?07:24
A[D] minSbrb07:24
ompaulA[D] minS, don't sweat it07:24
ompaul!ipod07:24
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto07:24
amortvigilwhat is your DMA?07:25
ompaulA[D] minS, what you really wanted was - !keyword > username07:25
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kristiancan a helping soul help me with my graphic card?07:26
ompaulamortvigil, check that out on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:26
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ompaulkristian, what one is it?07:26
AlexCHow can I make it so that when I press the MUTE button on my keyboard, it Mutes ALL audio channels and not just the Master one?07:26
livingdaylightompaul: ok... :|07:26
kristianati07:26
fredmorcoshey guys07:26
refuzeompaul: no i don't need software for it, i can't get it mounted07:26
fredmorcosi split a file into 2 parts... how can i joing it back?07:26
penguin42AlexC: I'm curious why you want to mount them all - the master should have the same audible effect07:26
ompaullivingdaylight, see I don't use nvidia so what would I know about them07:26
AlexCpenguin42, No, I have 5.1 surround sound - and to get that working I've had to enable the Wave Surround Channel. So I can get my rear speakers working07:27
Jack_Sparrow_Fre depends on the app that split it07:27
AlexCpenguin42, because of this, if I mute the master channel it will only  mute the front speakers and not the rear,07:27
livingdaylightompaul: what do you use?  '<  i thought the general consensus is that we support nvidia as they support linux07:27
penguin42AlexC: And the master doesn't mute that?07:27
penguin42ah got you07:27
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fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, i used "split"07:27
AlexCpenguin42, yeh, so it's quite annoying really07:28
fkzmen07:28
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kristianompaul, it's ati. I understand u have experience with it because you have it yourself?07:28
Jack_Sparrowfredmorcos: then the same tool should combine it with a command line option or ?07:28
penguin42AlexC: Is there any channel which does represent everything? I can see on the applet on the bar that you can choose which device to control - so I think you could pick any one mixer control07:28
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ompaulkristian, I have an ati and it worked out of the box with dapper xgl did not work and I am not interested in 3d07:29
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fkzi followed all the instruction of this page to install my gc : 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI' but it put black screen on login, then i just had to copy the backup xorg.conf, what can i do?07:29
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AlexCpenguin42, yeh I know about setting the applet to what channel you want to control. I think i'll go through every channel ( eeek ) and see if one does actualy mute them all07:29
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schmakkallright, i need help compiling banshee plugins.. i need glib-2.2.0 or higher installed, but i cant find any in the repository.. do i have to compile it from source?07:29
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fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, no it doesn't.. it only splits files...07:29
kristianompaul, ok :) can u help me setup my driver?07:29
stefgfkz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:29
ompaullivingdaylight, I don't have one - I have random cards07:29
penguin42AlexC: You might want to submit a bug report on the Volume Applet about that07:29
AlexCpenguin42, how do I do that?07:30
ompaulkristian, it worked out of the box - no issues what is the exact nature of the problem?07:30
Jack_Sparrowfredmorcos: where did you get that program?07:30
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amortvigilif i want to upgrade from breezy to dapper i have to change all breezys to dapper in the packet source list issnt it?07:30
Jack_SparrowIs it in the debs?07:30
fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, it comes with ubuntu :D07:30
VoXamortvigil: yep07:30
Riesis it possible to run mysql4 on dapper server? By default it want's to install mysql407:30
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Riessorry..... default mysql507:30
refuzeanybody here get their ipod to mount using 6.06?07:30
stefgamortvigil: there's an ubgrade guide availabl07:30
AlexCamortvigil, no - you should just be able to do sudo apt-get distupgrade I think07:30
kristianthe driver is installed for amd athlon 64, but it's not enabled :S07:30
Guvnor-hello07:30
VoXAlexC: uh no07:31
Jack_Sparrowfred, which menu option?07:31
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AlexCVoX, didn't think so =)07:31
schmakkamortvigil, theres an updated update-manager that can handle the upgrade for you, if you prefer the easy way07:31
penguin42AlexC: You can report bugs here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs07:31
ompaulRies, you can install 4.107:31
stefg!upgrade07:31
ubotuUpgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.07:31
AlexCpenguin42, thanks07:31
fkzstefg, i just had to replace the word "ati" by "fglrx", so i did "sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.con" like it is said i the Howto i just paste07:31
ompaulRies, mysql-server-4.107:31
kristianompaul, the driver is installed for amd athlon 64, but it's not enabled :S I don't really now what to do, because the Mesa drivers are the chief right now...07:31
fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, split -b SIZE INPUT_FILE07:31
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penguin42AlexC: If I wanted to hack a mute to do what you wanted to do then I'd use a little script to do it (using amixer ?) and then bind that to a key somehow07:32
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Riesompaul: apt-cache search doesn-t give my mysql-4.1, only 5.007:32
CarlFK"Totem could not play 'file:///tmp/A MOMENT.mpeg'.  You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. " - shouldn't mpeg be one of the formats supported by default ?07:32
stefgfkz: there might be other issues ... do the dpkg-reconfigure, and choose no automatic detection.. pick fglrx driver07:32
stefgwon't hurt07:32
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Riesompaul: I did disable the universe repository, since that give my errors during update....07:33
ompaul!info mysql-server-4.107:33
ubotumysql-server-4.1: mysql database server binaries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.1.15-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 16633 kB, installed size 37224 kB07:33
ompaulRies, well now you know what your problem is07:33
swimfolks, I'm having issues running compiz+xgl. I followed the howto's but when I try to start gnome it starts up for a few seconds and closes returning me back to gdm. (i have an nvidia-legacy card, but I didnt read anywhere that that should be an issue.)07:33
Guvnor-how can i install c compiler for Ubuntu?07:33
Guvnor-and make?07:33
stefg!build07:33
Guvnor-i cant use eggdrop on Ubuntu cause of this07:33
Riesompaul: let me see if apt-get update works on universe......07:33
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)07:33
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WaernerGuvnor-,    apt-get install gcc g++ make07:34
swimGuvnor-: install build-essentials07:34
ompaulswim, there is no s at the end of that07:34
fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, i got it, it's cat FILE1 FILE2 FILE3 ... >> OUT_FILE07:34
fredmorcosJack_Sparrow, thanks :)07:34
stbrennersometimes when i'm on sites like purevolume that use streaming audio (flash) i cannot hear anything...other times theres no problems..anyone had this problem?07:34
ompaulGuvnor-, you need build-essential07:34
WaernerGuvnor-, eeh, do as swim said instead :P07:34
swimin that case install build-essential07:34
Guvnor-Ok07:35
Guvnor-and what build-essentials i need?07:35
ompaulWaerner, we have a meta package for all that called build-essential07:35
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penguin42stbrenner: It normally depends if something else has the sound card and how the browser is talking to the sound card (using ESD, Alsa or directly) - it can get messy07:35
Guvnor-will it install automaticaly or i have to ?07:35
amortvigillol fellows the easy upgrade guide i have to change all breezy's in dappers ... can i still keep de badger where it stands?07:35
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kristianompaul, if u just want to take it from the start, i can remove the fglrx drivers, if i find out how, and we can do the install from the beginning:)07:35
ompaulGuvnor-, the package is called >>> build-essential <<< no s at the end07:35
Waernerompaul, yeah, I thought so when I saw what swin wrote :P07:35
AidyMoleis there some metapackage that installs all the autotools like automake and autoconf07:35
stbrennerpenguin42, is there anything in the wiki you know of that could help me troubleshoot?07:36
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penguin42stbrenner: I don't know the wiki contents well07:36
ompaulWaerner, all the gcc etc is that - say that it saves people coming back07:36
swimfolks, I'm having issues running compiz+xgl. I followed the howto's but when I try to start gnome it starts up for a few seconds and closes returning me back to gdm. (i have an nvidia-legacy card, but I didnt read anywhere that that should be an issue.)07:36
Guvnor-ompaul:  thanks guys07:36
ompaul!xgl07:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:36
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AidyMoleis there some metapackage that installs all the autotools like automake and autoconf07:36
swimompaul: I have followed that how to.07:37
Guvnor-one more thing i use a VPN Dialiar for authentication for my internet how can i use it for Ubuntu?07:37
Guvnor-its .exe07:37
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WaernerGuvnor-, .exe files are for Windows, and cannot be run on Linux...07:38
penguin42Guvnor-: You could give wine a go; but if its VPN stuff I'd be surprised if it coped - I'd suggest trying to look for a Linux program that did the same thing07:38
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Guvnor-Penguin:  yes thats what i mean.07:39
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Guvnor-what program you guys suggest?07:39
Guvnor-I'm fedup of windows trying to switch on..07:39
penguin42Guvnor-: What _exactly_ does vpn dialler do ? It sounds like its not just a dial up program? Which ISP is it and have they got any instructions?07:39
GrogsDoes anyone have any idea why when i try to browse an NTFS drive I get told:  error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable07:39
Grogserror: could not execute pmount07:39
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ompaulswim, go to the channel #ubunt-xgl is also in that - they have wideranging experiance in xgl07:40
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swimompaul: thanks, I just re-read your post and got that part... (read it too fast the first time)07:40
Jack_SparrowAh, thats better07:41
Guvnor-its a vpn device name: WAN miniport (PPTP)07:41
Joe1011Hi, I installed ubuntu with gnome, and it seems to be running slow with 100% cpu utilization when I move desktop items around, is there a reason for that?07:41
Guvnor-server type is: PPP07:41
Guvnor-and authentication is: MS CHAPV207:41
kristianompaul, is it only 9700 se and x300 cards from ati which can use xgl?07:41
ompaulkristian, all I can offer you is in a terminal, or at the console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:41
Guvnor-any idea?07:42
swimGuvnor-: have you searched using either "apt-cache search" or synaptic?07:42
ompaulkristian, I believe there are others please ask in #ubuntu-xgl for a better answer07:42
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Guvnor-swim:  no but i want to know how to do it first can you guys please guide ?07:43
Jack_SparrowGrogs: USe the diskmounter script07:43
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Jack_SparrowGrogs: it says you dont need to restart, but I didnt see the partitions drives on desktop until I did..07:44
unityhello, does anyone here know how to deny a particular process access to the internet?07:44
GrogsAlright Jack_Sparrow ... I'm ind of ignorent... how do i use that?07:44
swimGuvnor-: go up to your third menu to the right on the top left of the screen... then down to system... and finally select synaptic07:44
penguin42unity: Difficult; it can be done with SELinux - but that is a PITA to setup07:44
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GrogsWhere do I get it?07:44
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Jack_Sparrowgrogs, if you read the help in the script, it says go to term run sudo bash diskmounter07:45
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unitypenguin42: does iptables have a facility for this?07:46
penguin42unity: Not that I know if07:46
unity=(07:46
GrogsJack_Sparrow, I don't have the sc ript.07:46
unityany clever things i can do with chroot?07:46
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Guvnor-swim:  thanks07:46
Jack_Sparrowgrogs, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/07:46
swimGuvnor-: sure07:46
Grogsthanks :)07:46
foxinessif i use WEP Encryption on my wlan on my home can ubuntu support it ?07:46
unitylike install it into a chrooted envirorment that has no ethernet interfaces07:46
penguin42unity: Not that I know of; one way that might be easier is to set up a virtual machine using VMWare/Xen/UML and not give the VM any netwokring07:47
unity(i don't know much about chroot)07:47
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Jack_SparrowGrogs:  drag from web page to desktop then you will need to move to "Grog" folder07:47
Blissexfoxiness: that depends on the driver for the card you use. Choose carefully which WiFi card you buy. Most won't work or work badly.07:47
unitypenguin42: i am afraid that would have dire effects on performance, because i am trying to run quake4 without access to the internet07:47
Grogsok :)07:47
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penguin42unity: Haha ok; ah in that case are you really just trying to block a particular port or destination IP - that can easily be done with iptables07:48
tichhi. whenever i restart my computer the network manager asks me for a keyring password. is there anyway for it to memorize the password instead?07:48
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GrogsIt gives me an "Unsupported Operation" message upon dragging it.07:48
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bungleyrararar07:48
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swimcan I move windows when in "failsafe xterm" mode?07:49
bungleyI feel horribly noobish asking this, but has anyone had issues with 3d and the ati fglrx driver, such that the logs appear to check out but the sw mesa stuff is still used instead?07:49
Stormx2Is there a good panel applet to read rss feeds?07:49
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foxinessBlissex, i have centrino laptop 'acer aspire' and it work with ubuntu out of box with out "WEP Encryption" but now am change it to enable WEP Encryption to increase the secure of my wlan07:49
Jack_Sparrowgrog, go to #Jack_Sparrow I pasted it there for you07:50
Grogsok :)07:50
Blissexfoxiness: Centrino should work.07:50
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StreetSpiriti'm about to install ubuntu for the first time. i'm going to be dual booting it. do you guys recommend I stick to fat32 or will this release handle NTFS without problems?07:51
Jack_SparrowGrogs: Please do NOT enable NTFS write support07:51
GrogsOk07:51
penguin42StreetSpirit: Use fat3207:51
GrogsBut I'd like to be able to read it. ;)07:51
Jack_SparrowStreetSpirit:  keep it at read only for ntfs07:51
BlissexStreetSpirit: use the 'ext3' driver for MS Windows it works really well.07:51
bungleyBlissex: cruel07:51
foxinessBlissex, good ,thanks for your help man :)07:51
StreetSpiritpenguin42, if I need to say modify some file a month down the line, is ntfs write possible, or is it just not working at all?07:51
Jack_SparrowYes script sets ntfs to read only07:51
GrogsYou can read/write to ext3 on Windows?07:51
bungleyor am I behind the times?07:52
penguin42StreetSpirit: I really wouldn't trust NTFS write on my discs07:52
Jack_SparrowNo07:52
StreetSpiriti don't think windows groks ext307:52
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StreetSpiritgotcha07:52
Jack_Sparrowthere was some work on that but MS dropped it.07:52
StreetSpiritso fat32 it is ten07:52
Jack_Sparrowyes07:52
ompaulStreetSpirit, if you write and loose all your data you will not be happy07:52
StreetSpiritthen*07:52
Grogsyes, but a plugin to do it?07:52
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proctori have some partitons probs as well..mounting rather07:52
StreetSpiritompaul- true .07:52
Jack_SparrowPlugin to do what?07:52
StreetSpiritreading works without trouble however, right?07:52
johan_I'm having a problem with apt-get/gpg/whatever it is. Since the text is long, I've posted it on pastebin, here: http://pastebin.ca/76482.07:53
Jack_Sparrowproctor, whats the prob..07:53
Blissexbungley: why? I have got all my MS Windows partitions as 'ext3' except the boto one.07:53
GrogsSo the only fileformat which both OS support is vfat?07:53
StreetSpiriti ask mainly due to the fact that i keep a terrabyte of media on ntfs07:53
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Jack_Sparrowgrogs yes07:53
BlissexGrogs: yes you can with an unofficial driver. There are severtal.07:53
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Jack_SparrowStreetSpirit:  it reads fine07:53
FrogzooGrogs: or ext2 - use the winext2 driver07:53
StreetSpiritcool07:53
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Grogsok, ext3?07:53
proctori have a hdd that installed ubuntu on..has 200gb of data too, but no windows os07:53
BlissexGrogs: the best 'ext' driver for MS Windows is http://WWW.FS-driver.org/ which supports 'ext3' but in non-journal mode under MS Windows.07:54
proctori partitioned it adn cant read the data07:54
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penguin42johan_: Check the perms on your .gpg directory is only readable and writeable ny you07:54
Grogsoh07:54
Jack_Sparrowproctor, so you just want to mount it and read or read write07:54
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StreetSpiritwho knows.. windows might be a thing of the past if i begin to use this os07:54
foxinessbefore i do distro-upgrade ubuntu can mount windows partition and name it "ACER" after i complete the apt-get dist-upgrade ,its not there any more ! i dont know what happen07:54
EddieDaManhi all07:54
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proctoryeah just read [ntfs]  while the other 3 partitons are the swap/ext307:54
EddieDaManwould anyone be so kind as to help my fix my wireless connection?07:54
Jack_Sparrowproctor:  DO you need help mounting it?07:55
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foxinessEddieDaMan, ask07:55
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EddieDaManlol07:55
StreetSpiritguys, i have 3 external drives. 1 usb and two firewire... does ubuntu have drivers for handling all of it? will it recognize them on boot?07:55
swimanyone happen to know if I can move windows when in "failsafe xterm" mode?07:55
cwilluhow long should I expect it to take to finish "Building LTSP chroot"?  It's been at exactly 50% for about 30 minutes now, although there's still disk activity...07:55
StreetSpiritor install rather?07:55
stefgfoxiness: it's probably still there but a couple of things changed in gnome07:55
proctori think ill figure it out, i will get back on here a little later07:55
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GrogsI still don't know how to mount these drives. :(07:55
Gacusups:P sorry :)07:55
penguin42StreetSpirit: It should recognise USB and firewire discs - not too sure if you will see them on boot07:55
ompaul!wireless > EddieDaMan07:55
StreetSpiritah07:55
ompaulEddieDaMan, check the ubotu message07:55
Jack_SparrowGrogs:  since you were first.. I'll start with you07:55
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StreetSpiritso it;s a matter of learning how to mount them07:56
johan_penguin42: -rw------- 1 root  johan  8084 2006-07-01 18:16 gpg.conf07:56
foxinessstefg, ah ,coz i like it07:56
Jack_SparrowGrogs:  did you run the script07:56
EddieDaManthanks07:56
ompaulnp07:56
penguin42johan_: What about the directory that is in ?07:56
GrogsNo07:56
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Jack_SparrowStreetSpirit:  go to #Jack_Sparrow and get that script07:56
Frogzoo!ext2fsd is <reply> ext2fsd is a Windows driver that gives access to ext2/3 partitions: see http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd07:56
GrogsI downloaded it, but havn't got anywhre from there, it's on my desktop.07:56
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Jack_SparrowSo move it to your "Usernamed" folder07:57
StreetSpiritJack_Sparrow- what exactly does the script do?07:57
stefgfoxiness: simply type mount in a terminal, then you'll see wht's mounted where07:57
Jack_SparrowIt mounts all drives that it finds07:57
johan_penguin42: drwx------  2 johan johan   4096 2006-07-01 18:16 .gnupg07:57
StreetSpiritperfect07:57
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Grogsok :)07:57
penguin42johan_: hmm that looks happy07:57
StreetSpirithow do i grab it? :)07:57
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Jack_SparrowGrogs:  go to terminal and type sudo bask diskmounter07:57
Jack_Sparrowbash07:57
Grogsok07:57
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rak_i know this is a long shot but anyone know of a way to sync a windows mobile phone to linux?07:58
StreetSpiritJack_Sparrow- should i have dcc working for this or .. ?07:58
foxinessstefg, ah you try to say its mount like on /mnt/windows ? but not apper on filemanger like before07:58
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StreetSpiritis there a link or something?07:58
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johan_penguin42: yep. Anyone who has got initng compiled then? Or just a good .deb file?07:58
Jack_Sparrowno just cut and paste as text07:58
StreetSpiritthere's no topic on the server i'm on07:58
Jack_Sparrowor go to07:58
duelboothow do I get wpa_supplicant to automatically run each time I boot up?07:58
StreetSpiritthe channel is empty..07:58
Jack_Sparrowgrogs, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/07:58
GrogsI have the script07:58
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bungleyBlissex: in that case I really must be behind the times.07:58
Jack_SparrowSorry one sec07:58
GrogsBy default the disks will be writable only by root and07:58
GrogsGreg Dorrell (grogs)07:58
GrogsDo you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)07:58
Grogshow should i reply to that?07:58
ompaul!paste07:59
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:59
ompaul!enter07:59
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.07:59
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Jack_Sparrowgrog yes then no07:59
stefgfoxiness: i don't know where it's mounted, /you/ 'll hav to find out. But yes it will sometimes not appaer in the filemanager07:59
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Grogsok :)07:59
StreetSpiritit's up on pastebin? :)08:00
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Jack_Sparrowgrogs if you dont see the drives on desktop restart08:00
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Jack_Sparrowstreet, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/08:00
foxinessstefg, thanks for help :) i will see this after i reboot to my ubuntu08:00
Grogsok, thank you very much! :)08:00
StreetSpiritah.. cool08:00
StreetSpiritthanks08:00
GrogsYeah,s eems I need to reboot.08:00
Jack_Sparrowdid it work grogs08:00
StreetSpiritexcuse my denseness :)08:00
Jack_Sparrownp08:00
GrogsWill reboot and come back whether it works or not.08:00
lophyteback08:00
duelboothow do I get wpa_supplicant to automatically load every time I boot?08:00
Jack_SparrowHelping where I can08:00
StreetSpiritooh! nice.. resources :)08:01
ljlolelx-chat periodically puts a red line across the ubuntu irc chat screen, what is the purpose of the red line?08:01
StreetSpiritvery nice. thanks Jack_Sparrow08:01
lophyteljlolel: to show you where you minimized it last08:01
Jack_Sparrownp08:01
duelbootljlolel, it marks where you were when you left08:01
kimo!dpkg prozilla08:01
ubotuI know nothing about dpkg prozilla08:01
StreetSpiriti wish someone would write up a few good links such as this one for the newbies like myself :)08:01
ljloleloh, that's useful08:01
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Jack_SparrowStreet, we are as fast as we can08:01
kimowhy doesnt ubuntu have prozilla, while debian does ?? http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla08:01
[0x90] apt-get install prozilla08:02
[0x90] duuh08:02
ompaulJack_Sparrow, when you type the first few letters then hit tab it completes names on IRC08:02
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[0x90] it you have the debian package, you can install it on ubuntu :S08:02
Jack_Sparrowompaul: yea, but I have fat finger08:02
Jack_Sparrows08:02
kimo[0x90] : I am correct, it's not in ubuntu, right ?08:02
bungley[0x90] : dodgy08:02
[0x90] ah08:02
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StreetSpiritapt-get works in ubuntu? neato08:03
Jack_Sparrowyes08:03
[0x90] 'course08:03
kimoStreetSpirit: lol, sure08:03
[0x90] ubuntu is based on debian08:03
ompaul Package prozilla does not exist in dapper08:03
Jack_Sparrowsynaptic too08:03
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StreetSpiritheh, i'm a newbie, remember :)08:03
StreetSpiritgood to know08:03
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kimoweird, prozilla is very popular08:03
duelboothow do I get wpa_supplicant to load automatically every time I boot08:03
StreetSpiritso any debian package should work then08:03
[0x90] oh, i tought i was talking in governmentsecurity :S08:03
ompaulinstalling random debs from other places can break your system in new and interesting ways08:03
penguin42StreetSpirit: Ish08:03
Jack_Sparrowstreet, not all.08:03
StreetSpiritah08:04
bungleyprozilla doesn't appear to exist in debian stable either.08:04
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penguin42StreetSpirit: It relies on a package being dependent on the same version of everything else on the system08:04
bungleyjust woody...08:04
ompaulkimo, was it in SID in Febuary?08:04
StreetSpiritwhy do people choose debian over ubuntu or vice versa?08:04
kimoompaul: not sure .. http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla08:04
StreetSpirit(what actually is different? if I understand, it's the same kernel, same gui?)08:04
[0x90] i dont have a fucking idea08:04
Jack_SparrowWhy do people pick chevy or ford08:04
bungleyStreetSpirit: different tools different jobs08:04
ljlolelubuntu has newer packages, debian is super-stable08:04
penguin42StreetSpirit: And that is very rarely true - so generally you have a fair chance of rebuilding a debian .deb from source, but a poor one of just installing it08:04
duelboot!language08:04
StreetSpiritah08:04
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.08:04
ompaulStreetSpirit, that is not a support qestion please move it to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel thanks :-)08:04
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amortvigilhow can you check wich ubuntu version you have i got ubuntu bserver edition08:04
kimoStreetSpirit: ubuntu polished for desktop user08:04
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penguin42amortvigil: /etc/issue08:05
duelbootompaul, speaking of a support channel...how do I get wpa_supplicant to load automatically every time I boot?08:05
GrogsThank you very much Jack_Sparrow , it's working fine. :D08:05
StreetSpiritGotcha.. Just trying to understand a bit more..08:05
Jack_Sparrowgrogs is back.. did it work08:05
Jack_SparrowVEry cool08:05
Grogs:)08:05
Grogsthanks08:05
StreetSpiritTime for me to take the dive and install it.08:05
ompaulduelboot, ask the channel, I don't do wireless08:05
ompaul:-)08:05
duelbootI have 3 times08:05
StreetSpiritI can also just boot to the dvd?08:05
amortvigilpenguin42: does nothing08:05
ompaul!wireless > duelboot08:06
penguin42amortvigil: It's a text file with the linux installation type in08:06
duelbootthx ompaul08:06
sktxStreetSpirit: you fixing to make your rig an ubuntu-only system?08:06
Jack_SparrowStreet I will be here if you hit a glitch08:06
ompaulduelboot, now I can say check the stuff from ubotu08:06
GrogsHow is networking on Ubuntu? I have two computers (wired) on Ubuntu, I'd like to at least share the printer on this computer the other one. is that possible, if so how do i go about doing it?08:06
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StreetSpiritwell, not quite right now08:06
Bassettsi have had a bug open almost a month unconfirmed, what can i do?08:06
StreetSpiritbut that would be the ultimate goal08:06
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StreetSpiritof course i need to relearn just about everything08:06
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ompaulBassetts, give me the bug number please08:06
Bassettshttps://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/4911508:07
GrogsStreetSpirit, today was the secon d time I isntalled, last tiem I deleted my Master Boot Record for windows, but this time it wasn't a problem.08:07
StreetSpirit(my unix knowledge is almost nonexistant)08:07
sktxStreetSpirit: cool.. i started with a dual boot system myself08:07
StreetSpiritoh boy :)08:07
Bassettsand i have another bug that got "needs more info", i added info and nothing more...08:07
StreetSpiritLet's hope I don't nuke the mbr ;)08:07
sktxStreetSpirit: but i probably booted windows like 3 times after that08:07
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StreetSpiritI am really just.. Tired of windows08:07
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ompaulBassetts, I would add to that the config you had and just leave it08:07
mirzahello08:07
lophyteStreetSpirit: that's the wonderful thing about Ubuntu.. it doesn't require a whole lot of unix knowledge ;)08:07
StreetSpiritIt's slow, it's unstable08:07
StreetSpiritThe WGA crap is overbearing08:08
mirzahow to play mms:// type at ubuntu breezy08:08
FrogzooBassetts: ~ 50000 bugs dude, Rome wasn't etc...08:08
sktxStreetSpirit: in my experience, the partitioning tool that's on the CD is pretty reliable.. i've never once had it bork a drive on me08:08
ompaulBassetts, you have not said breezy dapper or anything08:08
Bassettsompaul: my current xorg.conf? or the one that didnt allow the res i wanted??08:08
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GrogsGonn really miss two programs from Windows though. :(08:08
ompaulBassetts, the current one that works08:08
sktxwhich programs are those08:08
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StreetSpiritWhen you say CD , that would also apply to the DVD?08:08
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Bassettsompaul: i just got told to submit a bug and they gave me the URL, i did my best :(08:08
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mirzahow to play mms:// type at ubuntu breezy cause i use totem it said not supported08:08
GrogsFoobar2000 and Directory Opus.08:08
StreetSpiritI burned the dvd (unfortunately my dvd-rw is borked and refuses to burn cds)08:09
FrogzooGrogs: tried wine?08:09
mirzawhat apt-get install to listen mms://08:09
sktxhrmm... can't say i've ever heard of em08:09
zam-aliphehow to install the ssh servis08:09
Jack_Sparrow!restricted08:09
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:09
mirzazam-aliphe, try apt-get install sshd08:09
mirzaor ssh i forgot08:09
ompauland maybe the other for a compare and contrast - mention your distro - it won't be fixed in dapper or previous but should not be there in the future (if we are lucky)08:09
Snellgroveanyone else getting CRC errors when trying to unpack the VMWare Server .tar.gz file?08:09
GrogsNope Frogzoo, I can cope with foobar2000 though, but I NEED Directory Opus (a filemanager)08:09
Frogzoo!appdb > Grogs08:09
lophytemirza: I believe its ssh-server08:09
saxinzam-aliphe, sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:09
StreetSpiriti'm going to run into multimedia issues quite a lot. that's basically what the pc is used for..08:09
StreetSpirit:)08:09
lophyteStreetSpirit: like what?08:09
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Jack_Sparrowgrogs have yuoused Nautilus?08:10
GrogsHehe, I've got as far as installin g WINE with automatix, not even  configured it yet08:10
mirzayeah08:10
mirza:D08:10
GrogsIs that the default Jack_Sparrow ?08:10
StreetSpiritwell, for example we get iptv as part of the internet package08:10
Jack_Sparrowgrogs have you used Nautilus?08:10
Grogs^^^08:10
fyrestrtrhrmm, I cannot figure out what satellite my reciever is hooked into08:10
StreetSpirit(fios iptv, ifc, bravo, sundance stuff)08:10
mirzaanyone can ive me a clue about y prob ?08:10
lophyteiptv? never heard of it..08:10
StreetSpiritand obviously it requires microsoft/drm08:10
ompaulmirza, rather than guessing leave it be and maybe someone else can hav a shot at it - zam-aliphe it is openssh-server08:10
mirzamy tote not support mms://08:10
Jack_Sparrowgrogs go to places desktop and it opens08:10
FrogzooGrogs: a file manager won't work through wine - linux uses a different file system08:10
StreetSpiritwould i be able to run this kind of stuff through wine?08:10
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fyrestrtr!RestrictedFormats08:10
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:10
ompaulmirza, please don't repeat you make it hard for people to answer existing questions08:10
fyrestrtr^ for you, mirza.08:10
mirza:D08:10
GrogsFrogzoo , I've heard of other users of the program who said that ti worked.08:10
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richeeardchoille: Hi remember me08:11
mirza^_^08:11
Frogzoo!appdb > StreetSpirit08:11
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ompaul!enter08:11
ubotuPlease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.08:11
MunchkinguyWhy is there no "add" button under the "connections" tab in the Network Administration Tool?08:11
GrogsJack_Sparrow, the default filemanager is nothing compared to Directory Opus, it's similar to Explorer.08:11
Badm4nubotu, tell me about mms08:11
ompaulBadm4n, please read what ubotu said about enter thanks08:11
ubotuI know nothing about mms08:11
StreetSpiritic08:11
FrogzooGrogs: ok, but file permissions will be interesting08:11
Jack_SparrowStreet, you are flirting with disaster08:11
ompaulBadm4n, msg the bot08:11
StreetSpiritnice bot commands ;)08:11
StreetSpiritheh jack , don't i know it08:11
StreetSpiritwindows self destructed yesterday08:11
GrogsJust don't change them ;)08:11
Badm4nubotu mms player08:11
ubotuI know nothing about mms player08:11
DraconicusWhat can I use to extract the contents of .7z files?08:11
StreetSpiriti just now am getting it to some semblance of normality..08:12
ompaulBadm4n, one more time, please msg the bot08:12
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StreetSpiritand i am tired of that happening..08:12
lophyteDraconicus: there's a package called 7zip you can install08:12
Badm4nubotu I know nothing about mms player08:12
ubotuI know nothing about I know nothing about mms player08:12
Jack_Sparrow!restricted08:12
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:12
Draconicuslophyte: Thanks.08:12
Badm4nit say not know :(08:12
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Draconicuslophyte: E: Couldn't find package 7zip08:12
lophyteDraconicus: sorry, its called "p7zip"08:12
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Draconicuslophyte: Thanks again.08:12
ompaulBadm4n, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats thank you08:12
lophytenp :)08:12
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StreetSpiritwell, let's see how it goes :) the worst that could happen is I'll have a dual boot system with a missing MBR :)08:12
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ZambeziIs anybody familiar with pftp?08:13
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stelkiHello, is anybody else suffering from general X fonts becoming alot smaller after installing nvidia-glx?08:13
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ompaulZambezi, ask a more detailed question and no I know nothing of that ftp server08:13
Jack_Sparrowstreet, remember you can boot to a floppy or 98 cd and fdisk /mbr08:13
zam-aliphehow to install the ssh servis08:13
fyrestrtrstelki: adjust your dpi settings.08:13
zam-alipheto make my pc ssh server ?08:13
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lophytezam-aliphe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server08:13
fyrestrtrzam-aliphe: install openssh-server08:14
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Zambeziompaul, I need help to make it work. I read helpfile and I'm totally confused.08:14
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Sfylerplop08:14
stelkifyrestrtr: could you give me a hint as to how I do that? is it a xorg config setting?08:14
swaj_If I plan on running Cedega for gaming should I stick with the x86 version of Ubuntu?  Even though I have an Athlon 64 X2?08:14
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zam-aliphelophyte:  then how to start it08:14
lophytezam-aliphe: it starts automatically08:14
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fyrestrtrstelki: yes :)08:15
zam-aliphelophyte: i get openssh-server is already the newest version.08:15
iGamappl i need help :S does anyone have a zt3000 or an nx7000 with fglrx?08:15
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fyrestrtrswaj_: yes.08:15
lophytezam-aliphe: then it should already be installed08:15
F0LL0W3Rheey how can i make the openssh-server being worked ? i have installed it but how can i work on it ?08:15
zam-aliphelophyte: now how to start08:15
ompaulzam-aliphe, install putty on the windows machine and read its help file08:15
stelkifyrestrtr: okay cool, thanks dude08:16
zam-aliphe   /etc/init.d/ssh start didnot work08:16
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Badm4n sudo apt-get install mplayer-58608:16
Badm4ncannot find anything08:16
Badm4n:((08:16
ompaulF0LL0W3R, when installed it works - >>ssh -C username@machine << is linux to linux08:16
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F0LL0W3Rompaul aha08:17
GrogsHow do i ge tto my WINE folder? I don't see it in my home directory? :S08:17
ompaulBadm4n, stop using enter after two or three words - say full detailedt things thanks08:17
lophyteGrogs: ~/.wine08:17
fyrestrtrGrogs: ls -la ~08:17
lophyteGrogs: its hidden :)08:17
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Badm4nok08:17
ompaul!multiverse > Badm4n08:17
Grogscan I un-hide it?08:17
iGamappl i need help :S does anyone have a zt3000 or an nx7000 with fglrx??08:17
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MunchkinguyWhy is there no "add" button under the "connections" tab in the Network Administration Tool?08:17
iGamai need modelines :s08:17
ompaulBadm4n, that was on the page I pointed you to you obviously did not read enough08:17
Jack_Sparrowgrogs what are you trying to do?08:17
metallordhello everybody08:17
fyrestrtriGama: google it.08:17
Grogsanyone who cna help :)08:17
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Sfylersomebody know the scool named supinfo ?08:18
Sfylerschool*08:18
iGamafyrestrtr, i tryd , but it loogs like the only page that has them is ofline08:18
fyrestrtriGama: the nx7000 is at the office, so I can't help you with the modelines :)08:18
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F0LL0W3Rompaul thx it worked now :-)08:18
metallordI need some help in order to run ghamachi,anybody can help me please?08:18
lophyteGrogs: you're better off leaving it how it is.. you can access it while its hidden anyhow08:18
ompaulSfyler, this is the Ubuntu support channel, you must have us confused with someone else08:18
iGamafyrestrtr, did u do anything else?08:18
fyrestrtriGama: nope.08:18
Jack_Sparrowgrogs I agree with him08:18
iGamafyrestrtr,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#HP_zt3000_.2F_Compaq_nx700008:18
GrogsWell, i want to put a theme into there, and a program... how?08:19
iGamahas it this?08:19
Sfylerescuse ompaul it's because this school have a linux laboratory08:19
Jack_SparrowGrogs read up on how to use wine08:19
iGamai made all the steps08:19
lophyteGrogs: the directory is ~/.wine08:19
iGamaand aded the lines08:19
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Jack_SparrowIt isnt how you think08:19
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Grogsok, but how i get to the directory?08:19
ompaulSfyler, this is a support channel, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for conversation08:19
lophytecd ~/.wine08:19
Grogsok, ty08:19
iGamabut the screen isnt goog enought :S there are lines in the screen08:19
Jack_SparrowUSe winecfg to add any programs you need08:19
ompaulSfyler, thanks ;-)08:19
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lophyteyeah, use winecfg.. or just run wine on the install programs08:20
Sfylerokay no problem08:20
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XVampireXI think people should learn more about the ~/ sign08:20
Jack_SparrowTIlde08:20
GrogsI didn't even know that cd meant change directory unil a few months back08:20
lophyteGrogs: FYI, the tilde is a symbol for your home directory08:20
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lophyteso ~/.wine means /home/<username>/.wine08:20
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visik7anyone know how to get mii tool on r1000 ethernet card ?08:21
XVampireXThat's shortcut to the home directory, so that you don't have to type /home/user all the time when you need to switch directories08:21
Grogsyeah, i kinda guessed that :P08:21
lophytek ;)08:21
ompaullophyte, is that a regular question I have seen a couple of times08:21
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XVampireXIf you type ~/ in the console and press tab, it does just that, but you don't have to press tab08:21
ompaullophyte, as in explaining ~08:21
XVampireXMe neither08:21
lophyteompaul: I haven't seen anyone ask it before, actually08:21
XVampireXand typing just cd in console will also lead you to your home directory08:22
ompaullophyte, k08:22
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Grogs...how do I run applications within WINE? should i just go to the WINE website for answers to these b asic questions?08:23
XVampireXJust giving some tips for people who think the terminal/console is too hard08:23
fyrestrtrGrogs: yes, and read the FAQ there.08:23
Jack_SparrowGrogs go to wine, there will be lots of into there08:23
penguin42Grogs: Install the wine package, then type at the command line       wine  blah.exe08:23
Toma-!wine08:23
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.08:23
Grogshmmm ok08:23
harisundHello! My /etc/X11/config has the resolution set to 1600x1200 (and everything the same as it was in Breezy) but in Dapper it doesn't even allow me to change from 640x480. Any ideas?08:24
ompaul!resolution08:24
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:24
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Toma-Grogs: have a good read of that webpage. tells you everything you need to know08:24
ompaulharisund, ubotu 4 u08:24
fyrestrtrharisund: the file needs to be /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not config08:24
penguin42harisund: If it doesn't allow you to change it then it probably means either it doesn't know the card can do more (wrong driver) or doesn't know the monitor can do more08:24
kizibihi everybody08:24
crazy_penguinh3sp4wn: ping08:25
Frogzoo!fixres > harisund08:25
Grogsok, will do Toma, thanks :)08:25
kizibiguys, easy question that I've been googling and combing the forums for at least half an hour now:08:25
kizibihow to shutdown x08:25
Toma-Grogs: np :)08:25
kizibiI know ctrl+alt+backspace restarts, but what's the combination for shutdown?08:25
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ompaulkizibi, do you want it on next time you boot or what way do you want it?08:26
lophytekizibi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop should do it08:26
harisundfyrestrtr yes, that is the file I was talking about. penguin42 the settings are the exact same as they were in breezy. I just did a fresh Dapper install and copied the xorg.conf file over from my old Breezy installation.08:26
XVampireXOh, by the way, another good tip is that if you have a program in your PATH, tab-completion works on these too, regardless if you're in the directory of the program or not. So for example you want to watch a movie with MPlayer you can start typing mpl and hit tab and it will also auto complete to mplayer (Even with a space, if you want to add the file to play or options or whatever)08:26
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kizibiI tried init 3 etc08:26
kizibididin't work08:26
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fyrestrtrkizibi: ctrl+alt+f1 + login + sudo killall X :P08:26
harisundFrogzoo, thanks, I didn't know that webpage (what ubotu said) existed. I will try it out08:26
kizibilophyte, ompaul, thanks!08:26
kizibifyrestrtr, thanks!08:26
ompaulkizibi, init 1 is single user init 2 is everything - if you install it you must want to run it ;-008:26
roostishawhas anyone in here ever used or setup keylaunch?08:26
penguin42harisund: Probably not worth copying the config file - probably would have been better to let dapper do tis detect08:26
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kizibiguys, I just want to be able to drop out of x every now and then for x troubleshooting etc08:27
lophyteroostishaw: keylaunch?08:27
roostishawlophyte, yes.08:27
kizibiappreciate your help everybody08:27
iGamafyrestrtr, is it possible if u send me your xorg.conf from your nx7000 ? to mail08:27
lophyteroostishaw: what do you mean?08:27
fyrestrtrkizibi: just ctrl+alt+f1 > f608:27
harisundpenguin42, yes initially Dapper did the detection and it showed me a unchangeable 640x6480 resolution. Then I copied the xorg.conf from my older installation08:27
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fyrestrtrkizibi: X runs on the 7th console by default, so to get back to it, ctrl+alt+f708:27
kizibifyrestrtr, it detects x is running (this for NVIDIA installer)08:27
roostishawlophyte, i mean do you know how to use it? as in set it up?08:27
kizibifyrestrtr, those are virtual consoles08:28
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lophyteroostishaw: what do you mean by 'keylaunch' though? I'm not sure what you're talking about08:28
fyrestrtrkizibi: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, or killall gdm08:28
XVampireXOne last tip for people who want to ease their life greatly in the terminal - You can set aliases to commands by putting in the terminal: alias somealias="command or set of commands" (Including quotes)08:28
harisundpenguin42,by the way, all the other Linux distros I have tried on my laptop, they have all defaulted to 1600x1200 (default for my card) including warty, breezy et all... only dapper has taken a 640x480 stand08:28
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kizibifyrestrtr, i'll do it right away! Thank you!08:28
roostishawlophyte, i mean the package called keylaunch08:28
lophyteroostishaw: ah.. I've never used it before08:28
iGamafyrestrtr, is it possible if u send me your xorg.conf from your nx7000 ? to mail if u could, when u can :)08:29
Toma-Anyone delt with converting 3gp video before?08:29
fyrestrtriGama: faster for you to google 'nx7000 xorg setup'08:29
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linux_user400354how do i prevent text from being deleted out of the .bash_history file?08:29
iGamai tried it all :s.. but ok i will try again...08:29
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ViperSnakehi guys... im new to ubuntu and for that fact new to linux.... is there a way i can install ubuntu and windows in the same HD??? my laptop alredy came with the HD partiotioned08:30
joebu23has anyone ever heard of a telestrator for linux?08:30
kimo!dual08:31
dribbleis there any easy way to kill an uninterruptible process?  rhythmbox has been dyin' on me and i can't seem to kill it w/o rebooting...08:31
ubotuI know nothing about dual08:31
Jack_Sparrowviper yes dual boot is easy08:31
fyrestrtrViperSnake: you can dual boot, and to do how is mentioned in the wiki08:31
lophytedribble: go into a terminal and type killall rhythmbox08:31
mc__dribble, killall NameOfTheProcess -908:31
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kimodribble: xkill ?08:31
lophytedribble: OR.. alt+f2 and type 'xkill' then click on the rhythmbox window08:31
dribblelophyte, mc__ : thx08:31
ViperSnakeohh ok where is the wiki?08:31
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philipsmithHi! I'm running SUSE 10.0 and want to dry out DAPPER. I downloaded the ISO (on an XP machine) for my AMD 64 bit machine, and burned it to a CD in ISO format. Then, I put it in the CD reader and instructed the system to boot from the CD. As it started, the last message was: STARTING DR CALDERA DR-DOS... CMM386 3.27 COPYRIGHT (2) 1999, 1998. CALDERA, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED........ Then nothing else happened and DAPPER will n08:31
philipsmithot start. What am I doing wrong?08:31
fyrestrtrViperSnake: in your bookmarks folder in Firefox :)08:32
BHSPitMonkey_is the Alternate install CD for dapper SUPPOSED to install a CLI-only system by default?08:32
fyrestrtrphilipsmith: its not booting from the CD.08:32
dribblelophyte, mc__ : the uniterruptible process is still active :(08:32
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fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: just type 'server' at the prompt to install a minimal version.08:32
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Jack_SparrowViperSnake: the cd has qtparted once you click install on the Ubuntu Live desktop08:32
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: I don't want that.08:33
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: I mean the boot: prompt.08:33
philipsmithfyrestrtr: Thanks, what do you mean by this and how do I make it boot from the CD?08:33
lophytedribble: did you try xkill?08:33
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BHSPitMonkey_I thought the alternate CD would install the same system as the live cd does...08:33
Jack_Sparrowphilipsmith: did you check the md5 on the cd08:33
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philipsmithHi Jack: What is md5?08:33
dribblelophyte, there's no window to xkill - it's simply a resident process, whose status is 'Uninterruptible'08:33
BHSPitMonkey_but on my friend's comp, it installed an X-less install...08:33
fyrestrtrphilipsmith: well those messages are from SuSE, not the dapper boot CD. For whatever reason, your system is not booting from the CD, or you didn't burn the iso image properly.08:33
penguin42Does everyone else find the boot time for the dapper live CD painful?08:33
Jack_Sparrowchecksum to insure you have a good image08:33
lophytedribble: ah.. and you tried killall in a terminal?08:33
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dribblelophyte, yeah, as well as kill via system monitor, pkill from console, etc08:34
BHSPitMonkey_penguin42: everyone else with your system specs, you mean? :P08:34
Jack_Sparrowphilipsmith: Are you burning the cd in Windows, maybe with Nero?08:34
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Wikipedia-Gastwhy08:34
lophytedribble: kill -9 <PID> maybe?08:34
penguin42BHSPitMonkey_: I've tried it on a few systems - all high spec08:34
philipsmithJack: Yes burning in Windows with Nero.08:34
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kimopenguin42: it's painful on 256 RAM or less08:34
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Curumoare u insane?08:34
roostishawhow can i ping a computer at smb://laptop? its a windows comp.08:34
EddieDaManhello08:34
wweaselHey all.  I am recovering GRUB after reinstalling windows, and am getting an error message.   "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20".  I searched on google, and can't find anyone with same problem. Help please?08:34
Jack_Sparrowphilipsmith: google nero md5 checksum they have a stand alone program free08:34
penguin42kimo: I'm talking machines with at least 1GB RAM, 3.6GHz cpu08:34
Curumowhy08:35
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: any thoughts on that08:35
lophyteroostishaw: you have to know its IP address to ping it08:35
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kimopenguin42: then no, it shouldnt be :)08:35
Curumowhy08:35
kimolophyte: nmblookup08:35
BHSPitMonkey_penguin42: the optical drive itself matters a great deal08:35
Curumowhy08:35
roostishawlophyte, so there is no way to ping it on my network?08:35
penguin42wweasel: Any messages before that?08:35
Curumowhy08:35
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: missed your question.08:35
roostishawlophyte, can i use its private ip?08:35
Curumowhy08:35
hector__hey08:35
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lophyteroostishaw: if you're on a private LAN, yes08:35
Curumowhy08:35
Jack_Sparrowphilipsmith:  there is a live cd super grub .. repair or something like that08:35
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matttailHi, I'm trying to umount my ntfs partition, but it just says the device is busy.  I don't have it open anywhwere, and it's already mounted ro.  How can I unmount this partition?08:36
Curumowhy08:36
penguin42BHSPitMonkey_: Nod, but a couple of different vendors - the time from boot till actually coming up at a desktop is painful08:36
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: the alternate CD installs an X-less system by default, from my experience.08:36
Curumowhy08:36
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roostishawlophyte, ok, thank you08:36
Curumowhy08:36
Jack_Sparrowwweasel: google super grub live08:36
wweaselpenguin42: yeah, all is good until that error message08:36
Curumowhy08:36
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: don't know about that to be honest. Haven't had to do any CD installs in a while.08:36
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: that's not the server option, either08:36
kazukisanhey Jack_Sparrow: Remember my question earlyer ? about the dvd burner ? well all of a sudden i have it reconizing it but it wont let me mount it08:36
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kristianCan someone help me install drivers for my ati graphic card? it needs extra help, because it's something wrong. The ati drivern isn't enabled...:S08:36
philipsmithHi Jack: I'll try the checksum. Thanks! P08:36
BrownManhey, anyone know how to configure xgl?08:36
Curumowhy08:36
lophyte!xgl08:36
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems08:36
Curumowhy08:36
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: the only reason it would do that is if it couldn't figure out your network card, afaik.08:36
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lophyteBrownMan: there you go ^08:36
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Jack_Sparrowkazukisan: did you try the disk mounter script08:37
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joebu23hello all, I need to find a telestrator for a video project I am doing.  I need to draw over live video.08:37
BHSPitMonkey_it's amazing how powerless we are to stop spammers in here08:37
fa_hello08:37
BrownManThanks08:37
Curumowhy08:37
kazukisanJack_Sparrow: Whats that ?08:37
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BrownManI have xgl installed, I just have all these weird purple auras around08:37
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: sorry, I meant video card, not network card obivously.08:37
BrownMandid anyone else get that08:37
matttailCurumo: you need to address someone, don't just repete your question.  Everyone will just ignore you08:37
fa_i want mount an hdd permanently08:37
Curumook08:37
wweaselI could recover grub the manual way, but apparently I need to decide whether I want to write it to MBR or to my Linux root partition, and I don't know which one!08:37
lophyteBrownMan: I didn't.. but I had a few problems with Xgl myself.. I just didn't bother with it08:37
Curumocan I ask a question?08:37
Jack_Sparrowkazukisan: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/08:37
fyrestrtrwweasel: MBR08:37
penguin42wweasel: I'd normally go for MBR, but I don't normally dual08:37
matttailCurumo: of course08:37
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: well, the live system boots. it's just too slow to use for the installer08:38
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wweaselCurmo: You just did. Now ask a second one.08:38
fyrestrtr!ask08:38
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:38
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: but there isn't internet access on there, perhaps that matters?08:38
Jack_SparrowFa_ http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/08:38
BrownManLophyte, everything else woks perfectly, I just have no idea why things are purple in color08:38
Curumook. what shall I ask?08:38
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lophyteBrownMan: maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl08:38
BrownManok08:38
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: hrmm, don't think it should, but I haven't done an install in a while (and all my machines were net enabled at the time).08:38
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: You can use the Alternate install to do it in text mode08:38
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Curumowhat question shall I ask?08:38
Jack_SparrowBHSPitMonkey_: What? To slow to install?08:38
BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: that's what I did. the result didn't have gnome or anything installed08:39
BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: yeah...08:39
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wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: It should install the same thing. Perhaps you chose server install?08:39
BHSPitMonkey_his cd drive is kind of old, and everything on the live cd took infinitely long to do08:39
Jack_SparrowBHSPitMonkey_: How long does it take you to install XP?08:39
BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: no, I didn't.08:39
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BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: we installed XP from an i386 folder on the hard drive.08:39
Curumowhat question shall I ask?08:39
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ViperSnake the wiki page with the dualboot guide is no more! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo08:40
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: Ok, well, the text install should give you the EXACT same thing as a gui install.08:40
ViperSnake:'(08:40
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: sounds like a CD drive that needs to be retired.08:40
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Curumowhat question shall I ask?08:40
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: we built that computer not too long ago, and he was on a budget... he "borrowed" the drive from his mom's computer, which had 2 :P08:40
Jack_SparrowI didnt think anyone used a 8086 cpu anymore?08:40
HLMsmacks Curumo with a sack of fish08:40
BHSPitMonkey_I guess I can tell him to buy one now08:40
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: oh geez.08:40
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: Any chance of you getting a newer CD drive? lol, I picked one off someone's lawn yesterday, 40x08:40
Curumowhat question shall I ask?08:40
BHSPitMonkey_but he needs a video card more badly :P08:40
BHSPitMonkey_it's a DVD-ROM08:41
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BHSPitMonkey_I just think it's slow08:41
wweaselCould some op kick BHSPitMoneky_?08:41
Jack_Sparrowwweasel: I have a dozen 40x here free for the taking08:41
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: could just be dirty.08:41
penguin42BHSPitMonkey_: Install from a USB stick?08:41
wweaselwoops!08:41
wweaseli mean kick the spammer08:41
wweaselCurumo08:41
roostishawwhat can i use to modify a .ini file?08:41
BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: ouch08:41
fyrestrtrroostishaw: any text editor.08:41
wweaselsry BHSPitMonkey: too little sleep08:41
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Toma-Curumo: what question do you want to ask?08:41
wweaseljust shutup and leave Curumo08:41
BHSPitMonkey_Toma-: just ignore him.08:41
fyrestrtrToma-: that in itself is the question.08:41
Curumowhy do birds sing?08:42
amortvigillol is it bad to dist update after a distupdate without rebooting between?08:42
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penguin42Curumo: Well it is something to do08:42
wweaselyay!08:42
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Toma-2 e z08:42
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fyrestrtramortvigil: not at all, you only need to reboot if you are installing a new kernel.08:42
kazukisanI have xcdroast installed when trying to load my dvd burner it says i need to install prodvd support ?08:42
ompaulToma-, yes it is rather08:42
Toma-:)08:42
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amortvigilfryestrtr: okkie08:42
roostishawfyrestrtr, but it comes up blank08:43
fyrestrtramortvigil: you might need to restart X if you have updated it.08:43
roostishawfyrestrtr, in gedit08:43
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ompaul!test08:43
ubotuI know nothing about test08:43
ompaulgood on you :-)08:43
BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: well anyway, we did the Text installation, and it seemed fine... but there was no GUI. Perhaps there is some dependence on a network connection?08:43
kristianCan someone help me install drivers for my ati graphic card? it needs extra help, because it's something wrong. The ati drivern isn't enabled...:S08:43
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: Nope, I have never been connected to a network when installing.08:43
fyrestrtrroostishaw: you might not have permissions to read it, try opening it with sudo.08:43
BHSPitMonkey_k08:43
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peter84Hi i just fund out that ive got two users on my laptop, but ive never added other users than myself. Here what "who" give peter@peter-laptop:~$ who08:43
peter84peter    :0           2006-07-01 20:3808:43
peter84peter    pts/0        2006-07-01 20:40 (:0.0)08:43
ompaulkristian, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:43
fyrestrtrkristian: have you followed the wiki?08:43
BHSPitMonkey_kristian: switch to nvidia :P08:43
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: Did you check your cd for integrity?08:43
peter84sorry08:44
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amortvigilfryestrtr: i just installed ubuntu breezy server and updated it distupgraded it and then dist upgrade too dapper it gave me a grubb error08:44
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fyrestrtrpeter84: that's just you, logged in twice.08:44
Toma-peter84: yeh, you get that.08:44
peter84but how??08:44
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BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: I think we did. (this whole incident was a week or two ago)08:44
fyrestrtrpeter84: :0.0 <-- this is X08:44
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peter84So no problem?08:44
wweaselCan anyone here decipher "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20" for me?08:44
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ompaulpeter84, no08:44
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BHSPitMonkey_I tend to ask for support when I'm not at the computer in question :P08:44
peter84Ist an ubuntu "feature"?08:44
peter84:-)08:44
fyrestrtrpeter84: nope.08:44
penguin42peter84: Often the terminals show login entries08:44
ardchoillepeter84: do you have a term open?08:45
fyrestrtr!it08:45
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!08:45
Toma-!it08:45
Jack_Sparrow!spanish08:45
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.08:45
peter84ahhh08:45
peter84yes08:45
penguin42peter84: gnome-terminal tends to, konsole tends not to08:45
peter84hhhmmmm okay08:45
peter84Thanks alot!08:45
kristianompaul, the "sudo dpkg......." reset everything :P tastatur, mouse, everything! I tried that for a week ago, and i couldn't start ubuntu after that. I don't know what happend.08:45
BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: I don't think Spanish is the official language of Denmark08:45
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: If the install worked alright and led you to a command line interface, with no GUI (gnome, kde, wtvr), I tend to think it was a server install.08:45
ompaulkristian, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg accept ati as your card and leave the rest as default08:45
Jack_SparrowArgh... THat was for a user who just posted in Spanish..08:45
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wweaselNo, Danish is the official language of Denmark08:46
BHSPitMonkey_wweasel: from the boot menu, we followed the "Install in text mode" or whatever08:46
BHSPitMonkey_NOT OEM, NOT server08:46
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ompaulkristian, or if you have been having all sorts of problems for a week get back onto 32bit and and then learn more08:46
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BHSPitMonkey_lol yeah, I bet Dell is popping in those Ubuntu Alternate OEM cds now08:46
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: what kind of video card do you have?08:46
ompaulkristian, in particular if it is a desktop08:46
FlannelBHSPitMonkey_: this is a Breezy install CD?08:47
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: you mean my friend's computer, that I'm asking about?08:47
BHSPitMonkey_Flannel: dapper.08:47
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: the one that is having the issues08:47
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: it's onboard08:47
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BHSPitMonkey_like I said, fyrestrtr, the live cd works08:47
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: That is very strange indeed. I don't know what to do. I am not an expert, so maybe someone else knows better.  You could try installing Breezy or wtvr and then dist-upgrade?08:47
FlannelBHSPitMonkey_: you downloaded the 'desktop' ISO or the Alternate?08:47
kristianompaul, but when i have written sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg, can I press enter through the process or do I have to choose everything? I choose fglrx, of course..08:47
BHSPitMonkey_but the installer runs too slowly to bear08:47
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fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: how much RAM do you have?08:48
BHSPitMonkey_Flannel: desktop was too slow to use, alternate installed a text-only installation.08:48
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Jack_SparrowBHSPitMonkey_: what are the rest of the specs on that machine?08:48
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: he had 256 at this time, though now that has doubled08:48
ompaulkristian, no choose ati and get it working natively then go explore the world from there, if it is not working which is what I understand the position to be08:48
wweaselRecap: He tried the Install CD, too slow to work.  He used the Alternate text only, and it gave him no GUI.  wtf?08:48
BHSPitMonkey_and I haven't had a chance to try it again with the 51208:48
kristianompaul, how can I get back to 32bit?08:48
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iGamaim getting lots of this erros " drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card25308:48
iGamadrmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)" can sometell whats wrong? using an nx7000 + ati 9200 ( trying for fglrx )08:48
[0x90] caralho08:48
FlannelBHSPitMonkey_: Alternate is only a text-mode installation, but it installs either a server, or a full desktop, depending on the command you give it.08:48
ompaulkristian, www.ubuntu.com/download08:48
[0x90] iGama, segue o meu tut08:48
BHSPitMonkey_Flannel: yeah, I know.08:48
Jack_Sparrowwweasel:  too slow to install means he has other hardware issues08:48
[0x90] haha08:48
kristianompaul, reinstall?08:48
[0x90] :P08:48
ompaulkristian, get the 32bit install cd08:48
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iGama[0x90] , isso n me ajuda :S08:49
kristianI have it... live cd or something like that08:49
fyrestrtrwweasel: maybe the alternate install doesn't install the desktop packages. Either way, what is the big mystery. sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop and be done with it.08:49
kristianinstalled from that08:49
iGama do meu portatil :S08:49
BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: it means every little action in the livecd took 10 minutes.08:49
Flannelfyrestrtr: it does install the desktop.08:49
ompaulspeak english please - this is an english language channel thanks08:49
[0x90] iGama,  tou no gozo08:49
[0x90] eu eh que tou meio malucop08:49
erUSUL!pt > iGama08:49
fyrestrtrFlannel: oh.08:49
wweaselJack_Sparrow: perhaps he has hardware issues, but the text install shold install the desktop08:49
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: no network.08:49
iGamaerUSUL,  im talking english ok08:49
F12Hi, I am just curious... what will be the major changes between 6.06 and 6.10?08:49
penguin42BHSPitMonkey_: Did you have a chance to look in logs  - were there actually IDE errors from the cd drive ?08:49
FlannelBHSPitMonkey_: question then becomes, do you have the desktop installed, and are just not using it?  You'll have to see if ubuntu-desktop is installed or not, via apt.08:49
[0x90] erUSUL, portugal wins08:49
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: what do you get with /etc/init.d/gdm start08:49
Jack_SparrowBHSPitMonkey_:  So... let it run..  You will spend more time here complaining about it than you would to let it run all night08:50
ompauliGama, you were not there for a moment, that is all08:50
ompaul!offtopic08:50
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!08:50
[0x90] PORTUGAL WON, WE TALK PORTUGUESE!! ENGLAND LOST SO NO ENGLISH TALK ANYMORE!!!08:50
BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: the installer program was essentially frozen.08:50
iGama[0x90] ,  shut up08:50
wweasel0x90: Not the place.08:50
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kristianiweuronsndfysdf, that's portuguese :P08:50
[0x90] iGama,  :D08:50
SonicChao[0x90] , stop. Now.08:50
ompaul[0x90] , have you stopped?08:50
[0x90] somegeek,  ompaul  WTF?08:51
Toma-[0x90] : won what..08:51
datr1xbeso mi culu08:51
Jack_SparrowBHSPitMonkey_:  there is a place where it takes a long time to uncompress, just looks frozen, 10 minutes is NOT long, did you see any disk activity?08:51
[0x90] the world cup game08:51
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wweasel[0x90] : if you want to discuss soccer, go to #ubuntu-offtopic08:51
ompaul[0x90] , don't wtf me thanks -- you can if you wish ask me why08:51
F12[0x90]  - is england out of the running now?08:51
SonicChaoompaul, no.08:51
fyrestrtrBHSPitMonkey_: your DVD-ROM is just dead.08:51
FlannelF12: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic08:51
[0x90] hihi08:51
wweaselF12: Not here.08:51
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fyrestrtroye, no football in here.08:51
wweaselJust kick them?08:51
|lostbyte|!repos08:52
BHSPitMonkey_Jack_Sparrow: when I said 10 minutes, it wasn't a scientific reading. just a figure of speech.08:52
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource08:52
bsdirlkick me, I'm innocent :[08:52
ompaulSOCCER WILL GET YOU KICKED thanks08:52
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BHSPitMonkey_lol08:52
SonicChao[0x90] , it's idiot's like you that chase away n00bs, when they see vandals, they run08:52
F12ompaul - actually it's football :P08:52
iGamaonly 1 guy in this channel has an nx7000 ???08:52
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bsdirlF12 here here *waits to get kicked for nothing*08:52
SonicChaoF12, KNOCK IT OFF.08:52
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F12Well it is!08:52
BHSPitMonkey_soccer -> kicking, that's obvious, ompaul08:52
ompaulF12, that was a warning - next time your red carded08:52
BHSPitMonkey_it's a fundamental relationship, really08:52
SonicChaoompaul, you can ban him right?08:52
fyrestrtrlol08:52
bsdirlhehe red card08:52
SonicChaoompaul, is it possible to IP ban?08:53
F12ompaul - I was just pointing out that slight error08:53
iGamashut the hell up about soccer, futeboll, what ever!08:53
ardchoille[0x90]  F12: please respect the users of this channel. They're here either to help or get help.08:53
F12I was talking out of context :P08:53
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[0x90] ardchoille,  wtf?? i am respecting08:53
iGamaonly 1 guy in this channel has an nx7000 ??? :(08:53
[0x90] i stopped talking already08:53
SonicChaoF12, we are helping people08:53
iGama[0x90] , para man ja chega08:53
[0x90] you guys are still talking08:53
[0x90] eu ja parei08:53
SonicChao[0x90] , have you? Why is there text on the screen?08:53
F12SonicChao, is that a joke?08:53
fyrestrtriGama: I have three laptops that run a flavor of Linux -- certainly not the norm :)08:53
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kristianompaul, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is done. Me feel proud :P08:54
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penguin42fyrestrtr: You have 3 laps?08:54
ompaulkristian, and it works?08:54
Toma-Anyone know a place to get a pre-compiled ffmpeg build with all the goodies enabled? stock ubuntu one lacks so very many plugins..08:54
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ompaul!ffmpeg08:54
ubotuI know nothing about ffmpeg08:54
wweaselBHSPitMonkey_: I agree, so much text, so hard to read it all.08:54
Jack_Sparrow!restricted08:54
kristianI have not restarted yet...08:54
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:54
ompaul!info ffmpeg08:54
ubotuffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB08:54
kristianwant to save this moment08:54
SanketMedhiToma-: what plugins do u want08:54
BHSPitMonkey_fyrestrtr: there are people out there who dream of having just one :P08:54
SonicChaoToma-, Easy Ubuntu works08:54
F12!theora08:54
fyrestrtrpenguin42: yes.08:54
ubotuI know nothing about theora08:54
ompaul!universe > Toma-08:54
Toma-SaneEnglishMonk: AMR, ASF, and so on08:54
SonicChaoToma-, easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/08:54
wweaselI second the recommendation of Easy Ubuntu08:54
Jack_SparrowThree lappys here too08:54
^richiefrich!info ptheora08:55
ubotuPackage ptheora does not exist in dapper08:55
^richiefrich!info theora08:55
ubotuPackage theora does not exist in dapper08:55
bsdirlhm, easy ubuntu's that good huh?08:55
dliToma-, you can build it from mplayerhq.hu source, I think they have scripts for debian (should work for ubuntu)08:55
ompaulToma-, please read the message from ubotu08:55
kristianompaul, now i'll restart. see ya08:55
F12I swear I was told Ogg Theora was in08:55
Toma-I know what universe is thanks.08:55
ompauldli, there is one08:55
SonicChaoompaul, Easy Ubuntu is a good fix.08:55
ompaulToma-, well it is in it08:55
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SonicChaoompaul, especially for n00bs08:55
^richiefrichF12 it is on there distros08:55
Toma-easyubuntu doesnt have a version of ffmpeg compiled with amr or asf08:55
fyrestrtrDell Inspiron 510m, IBM T43 (currently using), NX6000 -- currently awaiting a re-install, 1 R50, 1 R50e (not regularly used).08:55
SonicChaoOh?08:55
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Toma-ompaul: i know. i just downloaded it.08:55
ciusI have small problem with X on my laptop.  The screen seems to be shifted just a few pixels to the left.08:55
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stefg!info libtheora08:55
ubotuPackage libtheora does not exist in dapper08:56
F12^richiefrich - i'll just take your word for it - ubotu is a bit crap08:56
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stefg!info libtheora008:56
ubotulibtheora0: The Theora Video Compression Codec. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.0.0.alpha5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 58 kB, installed size 172 kB08:56
dlicius, lcd or crt?08:56
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ciuslcd08:56
ompaulgstreamer0.8-theora - Theora plugin for GStreamer08:56
ciusdli, its a laptop08:56
Jack_Sparrowcius:  I had to manually adjust my screen from XP to Ub08:56
kbrooksToma-: that because its not a god idea to even compile08:56
^richiefrichomg no no lpease not gstreamer08:56
Toma-Hmmm guess ill just build-dep ffmpeg and compile from svn :*(08:56
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^richiefrichstefg u found it :)08:56
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Toma-kbrooks: oh?08:57
Jack_Sparrowcius:  Ub / X were just a little left of center... Like my political preference08:57
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ompaulToma-, apt-cache search SomeKeyword is useful as a command line08:57
stefgA service brought to you sponsored by ther german soccer team :-)08:57
dlicius, run gnome-display-properties to double check the resolution is correct, but still hard to imagine a shift :(08:57
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Toma-ompaul: yes it is08:57
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ompaulstefg, please - no soccer08:57
Toma-ompaul: so is apt-cache search --name-only08:57
kbrooksToma-: yes. nalioth once aid to uss that easyubuntu shouldnt include a custom compiled openoffice.org08:57
F12Is there any plans for a 'control panel' like facility on a future version of ubuntu!?08:57
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ciusdli, its only slight, a few pixels, it does not hinder my using the OS at all really, its just slightly annoying08:58
harisundpenguin42, ompaul, Frogzoo and fyrestrtr, thanks a lot! dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and blindly hitting the enter key for around 15 times actually worked :)08:58
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kristianompaul, Now, how do i check if it works?>P08:58
penguin42cius: You could try xvidtune carefully08:58
dliF12 kde has a control-center08:58
kristianamerican tastatur...lol08:58
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F12dli - I can't stand KDE - sorry!08:58
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ciuspenguin42, never heard of that, I'll give it a look08:58
F12I would like to see a control panel based on GTK2 tho, for xubuntu  ubuntu use08:58
^richiefrichF12 man  what u use ?08:58
ompaulkristian, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start08:59
penguin42cius: It can tune minor timings08:59
F12^richiefrich, xubuntu - theres no better edition08:59
dlicius, still, is the resolution correct? VertRefresh ?08:59
^richiefrichF12 ahh im an e man08:59
kazukisanI have xcdroast installed when trying to load my dvd burner it says i need to install prodvd support ?08:59
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ciusdli, that is the correct res for the panel, and the vert refresh is 6008:59
^richiefrichF12 what ver of xfce is that ?09:00
F12I take it from the silence theres no plans!?09:00
^richiefrichF12  thats the svn one ?09:00
F12^richiefrich, I'm not sure - not booted into it atm... its xubuntu 6.06 that I use tho09:00
kristianompaul, yes? :)09:00
F12I think it's something like v4.509:00
ompaulkristian, did you do that?09:00
kristianyes09:00
dlicius, might be a hardware problem, I don't understand how can you shift on a LCD :(09:00
penguin42I've got one machine (with a very new Radeon) that the standard boot fails saying it can't start X; the 'safe graphical mode' works and gets me a nice framebuffer based setup; is this expected or is the hope that the autodetect should fallback byitself?09:01
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ardchoilleF12 I believe it's xfce-4.3.90.209:01
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F12Why do you ask ^richiefrich09:01
ciusdli, yea, I was afraid of that at first, but it works fine under windows... :-(09:01
ompaulkristian, I could pull teeth easier, what happened - did anything happen?09:01
^richiefrichxfce4  ver 4.3.90.1 is the latest iirc09:01
F12Is there plans of a control panel like thing for xfce of something!?09:01
kristianit came "OK"09:01
Jack_Sparrow--ciusdlisame problem here, lucky I have a one button auto center09:01
^richiefrichF12 i dont run it09:01
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Jack_Sparrow--cius dli same problem here, lucky I have a one button auto center09:01
F12LOL09:01
kristian * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 09:02
F12Ok, thanx for the version game - but my original enquiry stands...09:02
amortvigiloops i made a terrible mistake i think updated my system then changes my sources list with dapper names and added multie verse packets updated and dist upgraded it but i havent installed all the breezy multieverse which his dist upgradign now will this be doomed?09:02
^richiefrichF12 I never rtan xfce409:02
F12Is there plans for a 'cton09:02
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F12'control panel' like thing?09:02
dliJack_Sparrow, then, a bios problem, I suppose?09:02
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Jack_SparrowNo just a minor sync issue09:02
ardchoille^richiefrich: yeah, xfce-4.3.90.2 is what is in the Ubuntu repos and I think it's a snapshot09:02
ciusJack_Sparrow, yea, no OSD controls on mine, its an older laptop09:02
fyrestrtramortvigil: no.09:02
dliJack_Sparrow, for lcd?09:02
yaeyoAnyone else notice that alacarte is broken in ubuntu dapper or is it just my setup? It does nothing for me...09:02
Jack_SparrowYEa..09:02
amortvigilpfew09:02
FlannelF12: there is.  Its the administration menu.09:02
Jack_SparrowDaewoo LCD09:03
^richiefrichardchoille ahh kowl.. I was just wounderin I use e1709:03
kristianompaul, is it ok now?09:03
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dlicius, anything in bios?09:03
Jack_Sparrowcius: what video in that lappy?09:03
ardchoille^richiefrich: e17? oooh, that's beautiful :)09:03
ompaulkristian, it is your machine - you tell me if X is running?09:03
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^richiefrichardchoille yes yes man but buggy09:03
kristiani'm on ubuntu now, yes?09:04
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ardchoille^richiefrich: :(09:04
kristianshould I write startx? :P09:04
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philipsmithJack Sparrow! I'm downloading DAPPER again on Windows NT. When it is done, does it give me a check sum?09:04
ompaulkristian, you have me confused - you left? and came back on ubuntu?09:04
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F12Flannel - but that thing is dreadful !!! are there big plans for changing it or something!?09:04
ciusdli, there is an option for autoscaling of non-native resolutions in teh bios, I have that set so that if I go down in res it fills the screen.09:04
^richiefrichardchoille all cvs still09:04
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Jack_Sparrowphillipsmith, the MD% should be next to where you get the DL09:05
dli^richiefrich, I couldn't possibly know what you are thinking you know :(09:05
ciusJack_Sparrow, its a trident xp4 or something like that iirc09:05
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kristianyes? restarted my pc.. since I said "ompaul, Now, how do i check if it works?>P" I have not restarted my pc09:05
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Sir_FawnpugHas anybody set up a chroot for 32 bit apps? I'm having trouble getting my X11 programs to establish a connection with the current session09:05
dlicius, yes, but you are at the default resolution, that has no effect now09:05
ompaulkristian, restart is09:05
kristianthat was a confusing sentence:P09:05
ompaulkristian, restart it09:05
fdsdhey guys, I am wondering how to strip my install of ubuntu down to just the base install, I want it to boot to a shell, and I do not need any other packages installed, any idea?09:05
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Jack_Sparrowcius, I dont remember what chipset those trident use.. I dont think thay are NV09:05
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ompaulkristian, if it fails it fails09:06
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dlifdsd, why not debian?09:06
^richiefrichdli are u on my channel too.. u are the same on i know ?09:06
philipsmithYo, Jack: I'm an idiot. What does "where you get the DL" mean?09:06
fdsddli, because I am making a livecd out of it when I am done09:06
fkdsmhey guys, i am kinda new to Ubunu.. I have installed it on my laptop and it all worked out nice, but I have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys) how do I get this thing working..?09:06
ciusdli, yea, thats what I figured, but there are no other options for video in there, so I don't think its a bios issue09:06
stefgfdsd: that's what the 'server'-install is for09:06
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dli^richiefrich, kidding09:06
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ciusJack_Sparrow, I was under the impression that the trident video was a trident chipset :-)09:06
^richiefrichdli ahh u are then09:07
phprookihow would i search all the files in an archive for a string ?09:07
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fdsdstefg, the server install WILL not work for what I need to do09:07
ompaul!wireless > fkdsm09:07
Jack_SparrowYep not ATI and Not NV09:07
Sir_Fawnpugphprooki, a tar archive?09:07
phprookisorry i mean how would i search all the files in a folder for a string ?09:07
ompaulfkdsm, read the message from ubotu09:07
fkdsmthx ompaul :))09:07
fyrestrtrphprooki: grep09:07
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phprookithe string is getuserusers($user);09:07
Jack_Sparrowcius: probably lucky it works at all09:07
Sir_Fawnpugphprookie, you could grep it09:07
dlicius, try another video driver, different version, or different driver, like vesa09:07
fkdsmwill do so.. thx 4 the advice :))09:07
phprookifyrestrtr:  huh ?09:07
Sir_FawnpugAla `ls | grep $string`09:07
ciusdli, I'll do that09:07
fyrestrtrgrep -R getusers(\$user); .09:08
fyrestrtrSir_Fawnpug: err, no :P09:08
fdsdDoes anyone know?09:08
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mp3guyI found a bug in the panel network monitor, when the recieved activity coutner goes over 4gb, it resets09:08
mp3guygnome that is09:08
stefgI'd like a debian-style netinstall, too. I even dimly remember having read about that somewhere. But i can't recall where09:08
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Sir_Fawnpugfyrestrtr: would that not work? I use that all the time to search a directory listing for a string.09:08
ompaulmp3guy, file it on launchpad.net09:08
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kristianompaul, now i have restarted :P09:09
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fyrestrtrSir_Fawnpug: it works, but you can just pass -R to grep, no need to pipe stuff around09:09
fdsdhey guys, I am wondering how to strip my install of ubuntu down to just the base install, I want it to boot to a shell, and I do not need any other packages installed, any idea?09:09
F12Why do op's have such unimaginative nicks :S09:09
phprookifyrestrtr: its not working?09:09
ompaulfdsd, get the server install version09:09
phprookigrep -r "getuserusers"09:09
fdsdompaul, wont work for what I am doing09:09
fyrestrtrphprooki: forgot the .09:10
Jack_SparrowF12 and F12 is really Special.. How long did it take to think that up09:10
gnomefreakF12: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please09:10
fdsdDoes anyone know?09:10
Sir_Fawnpugphprooki: try capital -R09:10
F12Jack_Sparrow - F12 is more of a 'backup' nick :P09:10
Sir_Fawnpug-r and -R are probably different switches.09:10
ompaulfdsd, it will you can then sudo apt-get install whatever you want09:10
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stefgfdsd: so *what* are you trying to do then?09:10
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phprookiok09:10
ompaulfdsd, it is the same o/s09:10
phprookiSir_Fawnpug: no difference?09:10
kristianompaul, now i have restarted :P reeeeead ;)09:10
Sir_Fawnpugphprooki: actually, you're right; according to the manpage, they're the same.09:11
phprookigrep -R getuserusers.09:11
ompaulkristian, and you have not said if it is good or bad09:11
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Sir_Fawnpugphprooki: you could try that pipe method I used then.09:11
fdsdompaul, dude, I am modifing a filesystem.squashfs file, I have chrooted into, I can not switch it out for the server iso does not work.. I need to remove packages from ubuntu, down to the base, stop recommending the server install09:11
phprookiSir_Fawnpug: it just seems to hang when i typed grep -R getuserusers09:11
fyrestrtrphprooki: grep[space] -R[space] getusers[space] .09:11
kristiani think it's good:P nothing bad happend yet?:P09:11
phprookiok fyrestrtr09:11
kristianstarted gnome dispaly too..09:11
phprookishall try09:11
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phprookity fyrestrtr :)09:12
ciusdli, ah-hah!  vesa fixed it!  :-)  thanks!09:12
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dlicius, file a bug to xorg :(09:12
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Sir_FawnpugDoes anybody happen to know much about setting up a sandbox for 32 bit apps on x86_64? I'm looking at a post on the forums, but my X11 apps can't establish a connection to X09:12
kristianompaul, it's working:P09:12
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ciusdli, will do, its a problem with the trident driver09:13
ompaulkristian, great09:13
kristianhow can i check 3d is working?:P09:13
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dliSir_Fawnpug, set XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY ?09:13
Sir_Fawnpugkristian: glxgears could be useful09:13
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dlikristian, or glxinfo09:13
kristiannot working at all:P l09:14
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Sir_Fawnpugdli, nah, but I'll try it09:14
Sir_FawnpugThose are env vars right?09:14
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ompaulkristian, it is not, you need to now go through the whole 3d thing - are you on ati or nvidia09:14
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kristianati09:14
ompaul!ati > kristian09:14
dliSir_Fawnpug, if you don't know them, you have to read a little bit doc09:14
ompaulread the message from the bot - it will take you through it all09:15
stefgfdsd: there's no easy way i know of to strip everything down to the minimum. I'd employ aptitude and kill whatever i know i don't need09:15
fdsdHow do I get a list of all installed packages with apt?09:15
kristianDo I have to do that again?:P09:15
jim579what are the system requirements for ubuntu 6.0609:15
kristianoooh...09:15
Sir_Fawnpugdli, ahh, well I'll see if I can't fetch the docs then09:15
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kristianthen i understand a little;P09:15
Sir_FawnpugThanks for the advice.09:15
ompaulkristian, well you broke what you had you need to start from a known good situation09:15
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kristianoki :)09:15
fdsdstefg, I have no gui, I am in the shell, is that a gui app?09:15
dliSir_Fawnpug, man xauth09:15
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stefgfdsd: aptitude is ncurses... i anticipated ther's no X09:16
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amortvigilhow can i look which kernel i got?09:16
dliamortvigil, uname -a09:16
fyrestrtrstefg: not really, you can run aptitude without ncurses.09:16
kristianbut ompaul, i have the 64bit installed:S then it's other files, right?09:16
stefgnot sure... i guess no09:16
xerses2i5ohello people09:17
stefgfsds , wait I'll find out09:17
xerses2i5oHi need help09:17
Sir_Fawnpugdli, thanks, reading the manpage now.09:17
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fdsdstefg, how do I get a list of every app installed?09:18
stefgaptitude needs ncurses09:18
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dlifdsd, dpkg -l09:18
xerses2i5oCan somebody help me plz09:18
xerses2i5o???09:18
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amortvigildoes ubuntu server version has a a browser?09:18
fdsddli, thanks09:18
jamesstansellputting a @reboot command in crontab worked well for me, to get a command executed after ubuntu reboots09:19
ardchoillexerses2i5o: we can't help until we know what your issue is09:19
kristianompaul?09:19
xerses2i5ook09:19
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xerses2i5oim new to ubuntu try to transfer desktop setting to different user09:19
Jack-Howhy sudo visudo opens me nano?09:19
ompaulkristian, read it first - it says various things about the process then you will have some idea of what your trying to achieve information is scattered through out that page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI09:19
freezombiehi. is anyone using a composite manager and has a gecko-based browser (epiphany, firefox, mozilla) installed ? if so, could you please visit http://nuxified.org/ , scroll down a bit and tell me whether the "Latest Forum topic" bar at the bottom moves correctly ?09:19
james_xxxif someone has the time, i would appreciate being walked through setting up ndiswrapper to work with a linksys wireless usb adapter... the instructions are at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L and the adapter is WUSB54GS v.209:20
fyrestrtrJack-Ho: because that's what is set in your EDITOR variable09:20
xerses2i5odesktop setting  metacity  xgl compiz etc09:20
Jack-Ho$editor = vim ?09:20
fyrestrtrJack-Ho: export EDITOR=vim09:20
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fyrestrtrand tthen try it :)09:20
ompaulJack-Ho, it protects the sudo file from being corrupted - and yes that export thing works09:20
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xerses2i5o:(09:21
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amortvigilhow can i visit sites in a trerminal?09:21
stefgw3m09:21
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Jack-Hoanyway, visudo should open vi\vim in default, that's weird09:21
ardchoilleamortvigil: try a text-based web browser. I use elinks and I like it, but yuo might like a different one09:21
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skavengelynx is the old standby09:21
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Jack-Hothat`s why it called _vi_sudo and not nanosudo09:22
Jack-Ho:P09:22
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webdesignerI know this is off topic but does anybody have the install cd for a sony clie PEG-NX70V09:22
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fyrestrtrif you are looking for a driver, try the support site.09:22
xerses2i5ohow can I transfer metacity to a different user09:22
stefghuh?09:22
xerses2i5oplz09:22
fyrestrtrxerses2i5o: transfer metacity?09:23
inonoHow do you list the people in a group ?09:23
xerses2i5otheme icon curser09:23
webdesignerfyrestrtr: they don't have the driver I need09:23
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fyrestrtrwebdesigner: for....?09:23
Riescan webmin in unbutu handle apache2 websites?09:23
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xerses2i5oive created a new user but how to get the same desktop as the created one09:24
fyrestrtrxerses2i5o: copy /home/olduser/Desktop to /home/newuser/Desktop09:24
xerses2i5opermission problem will occur09:24
webdesignerfyrestrtr: I need the driver for hotsync, I lost the cd.09:24
penguin42fyrestrtr: I'm not sure I'd trust it not have any links with usernames in it09:25
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ompaulJack-Ho, no it should open your editor, and the setting in ubuntu for the standard editor is nano ergo ...09:25
xerses2i5othanx09:25
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kristianompaul, i have read it now, and as i see "notes" is 'what-to-do' if something was wrong under installation. So I just install with the files for a 32 bit system...09:25
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fyrestrtrwebdesigner: you can get hotsync from the ms website -- not sure what driver you want. Hotsync should detect the device.09:25
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webdesignerfyrestrtr: On the CD the drivers are in the /Drives/Hotsync/        folders09:25
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efoxif your crontab has an event that occurs at say 1am each day, but your computer was not turned on at that time, does the event get skipped or when you log into a session does it do that event because it missed it ?09:26
ompaulkristian, you can just install a 32bit system and do that stuff09:26
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catch23anyone know how I can get linux to recognize a hot-swapped sata drive?09:26
webdesignerfyrestrtr: hotsync doesn't detect it but it does ask for the driver09:26
kristianompaul, thx09:26
fyrestrtrwebdesigner: hrmm, try windows update.09:26
riochhow can i find out what graphics card i have? I've forgotten :s09:26
penguin42rioch: lspci09:27
webdesignerwebdesigner: Already tried09:27
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webdesignerfyrestrtr: already tried09:27
riochlspci told me it is nvidia, and i know it is a geforce4 go, but not sure what version.09:27
penguin42catch23: Hmm - I know for SCSI there is a scsi tool that lets you rescan the bus - but its not really scsi so I doubt that would work09:27
stefgefox: man anacron09:27
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webdesignerfyrestrtr: I wish somebody would send me the drivers09:27
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hondjeHi, why is view linked to mcview instead of vim?09:27
fyrestrtrrioch: grep nvidia /var/log/xorg/Xorg.0.log should tell you09:28
Riesis there something like webmin for unbutu?09:28
Riesubuntu...09:28
yaeyoI am trying to use twinview with xgl on ubuntu dapper and only the "clone" orientation works. If I try anything else I get an error about no screen found :93 ...09:28
hondjeIs that normal, or did something freaky happen along the line?09:28
kazukisani downloaded a movie ISO and some how its 5 mb bigger then a normal dvd so now growisofs wont let me burn ????09:28
fyrestrtrRies: you can always install webmin09:28
riochfyrestrtr: thanks, ill try it09:28
dliRies, first, webmin is insecure :(09:28
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ubuntueh09:28
ubuntui09:28
ubuntui'm having problems with wireless on this laptop09:28
Fugitive--anyone knows why i get this error <<cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-framework" >>  when trying to compile wesnoth 1.1.7 sources?09:28
ubuntuit doesn't detect any networks09:28
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yaeyorioch, you could use ssl and is not so insecure09:28
Fugitive--i checked the log and was done from this gcc -o conftest -g -O2  -I/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Headers  conftest.c  -framework CoreFoundation >&509:28
catch23penguin42: yeah, well sata does look like a scsi sub system to the kernel though...  but it's not really sata of course...  it's using the libsata drivers in the scsi package though09:28
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Stiv2kanyhow09:29
Stiv2kit uses the ipw2200 driver09:29
Riesdli: any alese you can recommend me? otherwise I use shell....09:29
efoxstefg: thanks09:29
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penguin42catch23: I suspect however that the scsi probe is just a bit too scsi-parallel specific09:29
Stiv2kif there are any known issues with it or something...09:29
riochyaeyo: ssl?09:29
Stiv2kbut it won't pick up any networks09:29
catch23penguin42 it probably is :-/09:29
fyrestrtrRies: there is a free control panel software for debian, but the name escapes me right now.....09:29
dliRies, if it's on a LAN only, you can use it :( otherwise, just use shell09:30
ompaulefox, there is a process that does those jobs a little later anacron09:30
yaeyorioch, yes http://www.webmin.com/ssl.html09:30
riochfyrestrtr: nope, it has the opensource drivers installed so its just showing as nvidia09:30
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Riesdli: this ob is lane... however I am setting up a dedicated server for myself....09:30
Riesand I want to host a couple of my clients sites...09:30
ToHellWithGAhow can i mount a .iso image as if it were a CD?09:30
Stiv2kcan anyone help09:30
Stiv2k?09:30
riochyaeyo: ok, that sounds like good advice, but may i ask why you decided to tell me?09:30
fyrestrtrrioch: System -> Administration -> Device Manager -- have you checked that?09:30
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yaeyohmmm sorry It was intended for dli09:31
kristianompaul, now I have done down too "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv". I have done the code, and not more on the guide. Do I now have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg?09:31
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penguin42ToHellWithGA: mount -o loop myfile.iso /mnt/somewhere09:32
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ToHellWithGAthanky09:32
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Stiv2kanyone?09:32
fdsdhey guys, how do I remove all gnome packages and everything that depends on it?09:33
catch23penguin42: hey what was the name of that scsi bus scanner you were considering of earlier?09:33
catch23penguin42: I still may be able to get it to work... perhaps09:33
niklas_eis there any way to set up a username and password for cups so you can login and change status and stuff?09:33
penguin42catch23: I can't rmemember :-( But a google for rescan scsi  finds a few09:33
Fugitive--anyone knows how i can get wesnoth 1.1.7 from a repository?cause the sources give errors?09:33
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dlifdsd, apt-get --purge remove libgnome2-009:34
dlifdsd, and deborphan after that09:34
fdsddli, The following packages have unmet dependencies:09:34
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dlifdsd, remove them also09:35
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kristianompaul?09:35
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stefgfdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome209:35
fdsddli,  thats a royal pain, there is like 20 of them09:35
stefgfdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome2-coomon09:35
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stefgfdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome2-common09:35
Stiv2kdammit09:35
ompaulkristian, from my reading - no - you should reboot if it fails do what is suggeseted as a manual edit after that, if that fails I have no other suggestions09:36
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fdsdstefg, how do I force it to remove all the dependecies of that app?09:36
fdsddli, any idea?09:36
webdesigner2DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE INSTALL CD FOR THE SONY CLIE PEG-NX70V?09:36
webdesigner2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:36
stefgit will do it by itself...09:36
ubotuI know nothing about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:36
Stiv2kI'm having trouble getting wifi to work on this laptop,  it doesn't pick up any networks (ipw2200), can anybody help me?09:36
dlifdsd, apt-get does it auto09:36
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fdsddli, it gives me those errors09:36
ompaul!tell webdesigner about shout09:36
kristianompaul, then I jump on the editing? right.09:37
fdsdThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:37
fdsd  gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-control-center (>= 1:2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed09:37
webdesigner2ompaul: this has mothing to do with ubuntu09:37
ompaulkristian, not now - reboot first - read the page and have some confidence in it09:37
dlifdsd, from your previous errors09:37
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webdesigner2ompaul: I just need drivers09:37
fdsddli, huh?09:37
ompaulwebdesigner, shouting in this channel does and your off topic in that case09:37
Phlostenwebdesigner2, try #ubuntu-offtopic09:37
[0x90] you need a driver09:37
ltibor65How can I make from a .py file a pyc bytecode?09:37
kristianconfidence? what does that mean? :P09:38
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fyrestrtrltibor65: great question to ask in #python09:38
webdesigner2ompaul: nobody is ever on that channel09:38
webdesigner2CAN ANYBODY HELP ME09:38
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fdsddli, what do you mean?09:38
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ompaulwebdesigner, I said don't shout09:38
dr_williswebdesigner2,  yelling like that - normally gets you ignored.09:38
dlifdsd, apt-get -f install09:39
ompaulwebdesigner2, so I will let you talk but - caps lock on again and byebye09:39
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MrWooI need help booting the from the live CD on a Mac09:40
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fdsddli, ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: No such file or directory09:40
webdesigner2ompaul: and how would you do that?09:40
cute_bettong!restricted09:40
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:40
ompaulwebdesigner2, by banning you from the channel09:40
dr_willisMrWoo,  depends on the kind of mac and what firmware it has. theres several 'tricks' to make it boot off the cd..09:40
yaeyoanyone have any links or info on getting twinview working with xgl on dapper?09:40
fdsddli, why cant I uninstall anything?09:41
dr_willisyaeyo,  heh - just getting twinview working can be a task. :)09:41
dlifdsd, ldconfig09:41
fdsddli, why wont apt-get remove the dependencies?09:41
webdesigner2ompaul: you can't - your not an operator09:41
Milkteawhat does twinview do09:41
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[0x90] xD09:41
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yaeyodr_willis, I have twinview working but only "clone" works and I would like to span both my monitors09:41
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willy-basHi i'm having trouble upgrading to dapper09:42
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johan_I have a problem with apt-get/apt-get/gpg/whatever, look here: http://pastebin.ca/7648209:43
hatredheh no ops?09:43
MrWoodr_willis, I'm on a mac G4, i've tried holding down C and cmd+opt+shift+del09:43
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fyrestrtrwebdesigner2: might not want to question if he can or not.09:43
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agotfredHi, I am having some trouble booting the dapper i386 iso. The boot menu comes up fine, but when it tries to boot the kernel it fails at "hda: timeout waiting for DMA" "hda: drive not ready for command"09:44
hatredi'm having trouble changing default console font09:44
amortvigil how can i install phpmyadmin in ubuntu server ?? i cant find it09:44
penguin42agotfred: What type of hard drive do you have?09:45
penguin42IDE or SATA?09:45
yaeyohatred, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin works for me09:45
agotfredI have both, and I've tried with both disconnected09:45
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penguin42agotfred: I'm wondering if that hda is the CDROM09:45
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agotfredI am pretty sure that hda is the cdrom09:45
penguin42agotfred: In that case I suggest a bad cdrom burn or a bad drive09:46
Bassettsdoes ubuntu have vnc installed from default install09:46
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MrWooi have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my Mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD09:46
kristianTo someone which have installed the ati driver. Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] ", where did you place this? I find Section Screen 2 or 3 different places in xorg.conf09:46
agotfredpenguin42:  bit strange though, as I've tried two different burns and 3 different cd drives09:46
hatredyaeyo: ?09:46
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penguin42agotfred: Hmm that is odd; did you do both burns on the same machine?09:46
agotfredtwo different ones09:47
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agotfredanyway, after waiting for 15 minutes now with it repeating errors, it started and entered gnome09:47
agotfredpretty strange09:47
yaeyohatred, maybe you need to enable some repos to find phpmyadmin ..09:47
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MrWooi have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD09:48
penguin42agotfred: Hmm it eventually starts? If it wasn't for you trying multiple I'd say the cd/drive09:48
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roostishawwhere can i find a guide, or could someone just walk me through it, to install the latest gaim beta?09:48
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agotfredyeah, it started just now... Tried different drives, they all acted that way. Hmm, wierd I guess09:48
gore_did you check the gaim website?09:48
phprooki!wireless09:49
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:49
Bassetts!vnc09:49
ubotuvnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx09:49
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hatred!console09:49
ubotuI know nothing about console09:49
MrWooi have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD, how do i boot on a Mac from the live CD?09:49
hatredlol09:49
penguin42agotfred: Did you try swapping the IDE cable connecting the CD?09:49
Bassetts!freenx09:49
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX09:49
Kragneracja09:50
agotfredPenguin42: nope, didn't try that09:50
xerses2i5ohow to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another09:50
hatred!consolechars09:50
ubotuI know nothing about consolechars09:50
penguin42agotfred: Might be worth a go09:50
xerses2i5o??09:50
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hatred!paris09:50
ubotuI know nothing about paris09:50
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MrWoo!mac09:50
ubotuI know nothing about mac09:50
roostishawwhere can i find a guide, or could someone just walk me through it, to install the latest gaim beta?09:50
hatred!gaim09:51
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.09:51
stefgMrWoo: tried holding [alt]  and selecting the CD from the menu there?09:51
xerses2i5ohow to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another09:51
xerses2i5oplz09:51
hatred!skype09:51
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto09:51
MrWoostefg, naw let me try that09:51
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kristianompaul, can you help me edit xorg.conf?09:51
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dagrump_hello all09:51
Bassettshttp://mighmos.org/packages.php << gaim beta09:51
patrickjhow can I make a desktop shortcut to my home directory ?09:51
Bassettsroostishaw: http://mighmos.org/packages.php09:51
patrickjI try to do it using the make launcher but it wont go lol09:51
hatredhello just you09:51
Kragnerac!ubuntu09:52
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome09:52
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xerses2i5ohow to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another09:52
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ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems09:52
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Kragnerac!sparc6409:52
ubotuI know nothing about sparc6409:52
xerses2i5o!desktop09:53
ubotuThe available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.09:53
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ubotuI know nothing about spam09:53
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Kragnerac!myself09:53
ubotuI know nothing about myself09:53
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ubotuI know nothing about metacity09:53
Bassettsthis is annoying09:53
Bassettsops?09:53
xerses2i5o!theme09:53
ubotuFind your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy09:53
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MrWoostefg, all i get is a screen with two arrows on it, one is in a circle and the other is a strait arrow pointing right09:53
dreamcatcher5172im having trouble mounting my windows hardrive can anyone point me in the right direction?09:53
hatred!ban09:53
ubotuIf you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/09:53
kristianompaul?09:53
BassettsSaveas ompaul ?09:54
dli!ntfs > dreamcatcher517209:54
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pradeepdreamcatcher5172, what's the drive: NTFS or FAT ?09:54
hatred!computers09:54
ubotuI know nothing about computers09:54
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Bassettsgnomefreak??09:54
Kragnerac!that, but I hate myself to the fullest extent.09:54
ubotuI know nothing about that, but I hate myself to the fullest extent.09:54
stefgMrWoo: that means the CD isn't recognized as bootable.. Check the CD, it's probably bad09:54
MilkteaI have a file, INSTALL09:54
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MilkteaI try to ./INSTALL09:54
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ardchoillePlease don't play with the bot. It's not a toy.09:54
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Milkteabut I get permission denied, so I use sudo ./INSTALL09:55
KarhutonMilktea: it's a text file, not a program09:55
MilkteaOh09:55
MrWoostefg, really?09:55
MilkteaHow do I install this then09:55
Milktea:X09:55
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KarhutonMilktea: use: less INSTALL to read it09:55
F12Hey hatred, nice one :P09:55
hatred!bot09:55
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage09:55
stefgno, i'm trying to fool you... :-)09:55
MrWoostefg, and i can't use the AMD64 CD my friend also gave me on the mac right?09:55
ompaulBassetts, ?09:55
MilkteaI also have makefile.am and .in09:55
colpompidouhas anyone got the novell's menu applet (slab) working on Dapper ?09:55
Milkteawhich do I use?09:55
KarhutonMilktea: read the INSTALL file09:55
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xerses2i5ohow to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another09:56
stefgMrWoo... you need a PPC-Install for a G409:56
Bassettsompaul: you op?? Kragnerac was abusing the bot09:56
Milkteaoh ok09:56
MrWoostefg, well I'm downloading the PPC install disc right now, so I'll probably just try that anyway09:56
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ompaulgot it09:56
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colpompidouI want just to try (no flamewar)09:56
MrWoostefg, thanks for you help09:56
penguin42you'd think a bot could protect itself09:56
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fkdsm(ompaul) .. the wireless is working thx ever so much :))09:56
SonicChaocolpompidou, there really is no need too.09:56
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ompaulkristian, it is in that web page09:56
hatred!ubotu brains09:57
ubotuI know nothing about ubotu brains09:57
colpompidouompaul, by compiling it or with a package ?09:57
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kristianompaul, everywhere I see Screen, I switch, right09:57
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kristian?09:57
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ompaulcolpompidou, no idea what your asking me about09:58
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patrickjfor some reason when ubuntu loads I cant see the splash screen09:58
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ompaulkristian, follow the instructions in that page, I am not familar with it -0 you have read it more than me at this point09:58
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patrickjlike basically anything linux not in x I cant see because my screen just flickers crazy and the text goes EVERYWHERE09:59
patrickjwhat might cause this?09:59
kristianompaul, ok, sorry im a little asking ;)09:59
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hatred!noob09:59
ubotuWords like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.09:59
patrickjlol10:00
[0x90] noob10:00
ompaulhatred, a little late there10:00
F12I got to ask, what is jfgi ?10:00
stefgpatrickj: problems with the framebuffer... get the most recent BIOS for you MoBo and Graphics10:00
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GrogsAnyone know if it is possible for my to rename what Ubuntu calls my moun ted Hard Drives (NTFS ones)? If so how?10:00
ompaul[0x90] , have you not worked it out yet?10:00
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[0x90] hey man... you guys are so serious xD10:00
hatredompaul: ?10:00
[0x90] have some fun10:00
[0x90] it is good for freeing from stress10:00
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hatred!ompaul10:01
ubotuI know nothing about ompaul10:01
patrickjstefg: I have most recent..10:01
[0x90] you'll see that your life will be much bettter this way10:01
F12lol hatred good one10:01
patrickjstefg: do you mean in linux or actually in my bios10:01
ompaul!offtopic10:01
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!10:01
F12I sure would like to program ubotu with some information on that one10:01
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[0x90] ompaul,  ok ok i know10:02
ompaul[0x90] , too busy here please cease10:02
stefgi mean the actual bios. What graphics do you have?10:02
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snoopsI'm looking for someone who'd be able to help with xkeybinding a key on my mx1000 mouse.. I've got the binding file and such.. but umm just need someone who knows how the syntax works and such10:02
amortvigilhow do i login at phpmyadmin just installed it?10:02
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ompaulhatred, leave the bot alone10:03
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MilkteaHmm10:03
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ubotuPlease investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots10:03
MilkteaI installed XMMS, but it can't play any of my music10:03
amortvigilhow do i login at phpmyadmin just installed it? with pma or something?10:03
MilkteaI installed all of the codecs10:03
Milkteaand such10:03
ompaulMilktea, are you getting any other audio10:04
Milkteayeah10:04
F129:03pm <F12> penis10:04
F129:03pm <ubotu> I know nothing about penis10:04
Milkteai can play my music through10:04
F12private is much better :P10:04
hatred!leaving bot alone10:04
ubotuI know nothing about leaving bot alone10:04
SonicChaoF12 shut up.10:04
MilkteaRhythmbox10:04
joe_fd10:04
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SonicChaoF12, I remember you10:04
dreamcatcher5172ok i followed the guide but i got allot of permision denied..... how would i be able to mount hda in /media/windows10:04
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F12I won't bug it any longer, I promise!10:05
dlidreamcatcher5172, hda ? not hda1?10:05
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dlidreamcatcher5172, sudo fdisk -l10:05
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dreamcatcher5172it gave me a >10:06
kermTry playing xmms through console and see what it says10:06
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pedro-kunso many people10:06
pedro-kunhi :)10:06
Milktealibmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory10:06
MilkteaMessage: device: default10:06
Milktea:[10:06
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dreamcatcher5172what does a > mean...10:06
kermredirect output10:06
pedro-kuncan someone tell the reason why i should use ubuntu instead of fedora 5?10:07
hatredinstall libmikmod library10:07
pedro-kun(sorry for the dumb question, but i'd really like to know...)10:07
Milkteaok10:07
dliMilktea, apt-get install libmikmod210:07
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dagrump_fedora is fugly !10:07
dagrump_jus me10:08
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pedro-kunwell, more reasons please10:08
crazy_penguini wish a good night to all! take care!10:08
pedro-kuni've been told that fedora is a resource and memory hog10:08
pedro-kunis it true? (when compared to ubuntu)10:08
mwepedro-kun: using a real distro instead of being a beta tester for redhat?10:08
hatredpedro-kun: becose ubuntu connect people, fedora doesn't10:08
squigglydon't ever use fedora10:08
squigglymy last experience with fc3 was ugh10:08
kermfedora uses rpm packages and ubuntu uses deb packages10:08
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MilkteaI heard rpm was bad10:09
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kermme too, but I don't know why it would be10:09
hatredMilktea: was? :)10:09
nanomadi've  got xorg-driver-fglrx 8.26 and the restricted modules is 8.25...is that normal? i suppose no, since dri is not working.10:09
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Milktea:[10:09
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MilkteaAnyway10:09
ompaulMilktea, it is not so much that it is bad, as a lot of bad packages are made with it and they break people systems10:09
lkj1If I got two of these could I install them on my Gateway mx7525? http://tinyurl.com/pk8vl ? Gateway support says I have 1024 MB DDR (2  512 MB) SODIMM (PC2700)10:09
Juhazit's generally just ignorant people blaming bad packages or their own ignorance for the package manager10:09
patrickjstefg: I have a geforce 6600gt oc, it works fine in breezy10:09
MilkteaI installed libmikmod210:09
patrickjdapper just gets me10:10
MilkteaAnd XMMS still has the problem10:10
pedro-kunand what about xgl?10:10
Milkteathe music doesn't play, it's just eaten through extremely fast10:10
ompaul!sound > Milktea10:10
pedro-kunis it easy to install in dapper?10:10
patrickjwhere can I get a nicer xmms icon to replace the ugly one10:10
MilkteaSound is working10:10
nanomadany1 having problems with fglrx in dapper now?10:10
MilkteaXMMS just doesn't play music10:10
hatredxgl suc**s10:10
MilkteaIt doesn't start the file10:10
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unity`umount: it seems /home/unity/Stuff is mounted multiple times` and only root is allowed to do -f10:10
kermwhat kind of file is it?10:10
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pedro-kunhatred why do you say that?10:10
MilkteaIt's a playlist10:10
snoopsMilktea can you play stuff in other applications?10:11
Milkteasome .mp3 some .m4p10:11
kerma .pls file or m3u10:11
unitydoes anyone know how to, without root, unmount a fs marked with users option if it is mounted twice? if i try, i get `umount: it seems /home/unity/Stuff is mounted multiple times` and only root is allowed to do -f10:11
Milkteasnoops: Yes10:11
Milkteam3u10:11
stefgpatrickj: i hear this 'works fine in breezy, but won't in dapper'-mantra a bit too often... sorry I'm afraid i can't help10:11
`underOATHDoes anyone have any expierince with getting your cellphone connected to your ubuntu computer and using it as a modem as if you were using DataPilot for windows ?10:11
snoopsMilktea have you tried changing the engine xmms uses?10:11
snoopsin options10:11
ompaulunity, sudo umount /where/ever10:11
Milkteaoh I'll check10:11
hatredfglrx works like a charm10:11
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skavengeimo beep is wat better than xmms anyway, basically the same thing but cleaner menus and nicer overall, still uses winamp skins as well10:11
patrickjstefg: damnit, why not?10:11
kristianhatred, fglrx dosn't work at all :P10:12
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dliskavenge, what about amarok?10:12
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unityompaul: does that require that i know the root password?10:12
hatredkristian: ?10:12
snoopsamarok rocks my socks dli.. it's the reason I use linux now10:12
dagrump_i like xgl after i got it working10:12
pedro-kunisn't fglrx ATI only? :S (hatred)10:12
skavengedli; too much clutter for me personally, i just want it to play an mp3 and thats it but i know alot of people use it10:12
ompaulunity, it requires you to know your own password if you have access rights to mount and umount10:12
Milkteasnoops: I changed them but it still doesn't work10:12
Stroganoffdo you know a good console-based music player?10:12
MilkteaI don't think it's a problem with output10:12
hatredxgl is just eyecandy10:12
dagrump_it help no typos10:12
stefgcause i'd /guess/ instead og /knowing/... was just a sarcastic remark on the quality-control in the dapper-release10:12
unityompaul: but shouldn't users who do not have that right still be allowed to mount and umount thing marked with users option?10:13
MilkteaIt goes through my playlist like a batch file10:13
Milktea:[10:13
kristianhatred: 3-4-5 time, I've forgot how many times I have tried to install fglrx. Never seems to work with me :P10:13
amortvigilhow can i login phpmyadmin for first time?10:13
dliskavenge, or audacious10:13
kermTry a .pls file10:13
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ompaulStroganoff, I use oggs >> ogg123 -d alsa 09 /path/to/music -- there is an mpg123 and an mpg32110:13
dagrump_so is google earth but its fun 2 play with10:14
snoopshatred xgl isn't eyecandy. It's an open gl rendered server layer.. compiz is the composating manager which has plugins with some eyecandy, as well as big usabily improvements10:14
patrickjstefg: sorry but I was just saying that the video wasnt messed10:14
ompaulunity, with the double mounting who knows10:14
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unityompaul: so is it like a kernel bug or something?10:14
ompaulunity, is mounting something twice a bug - perhaps10:14
unity=(10:14
ompaulunity, is mounting something twice a bug - though I think it is expected behaviour10:14
snoopsMilktea I'm wondering if it's a problem with file locations.. can you drag one of the songs in directly to see?10:15
Milkteayeah, a single song works10:15
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ompaulunity, I have been able to since the early I started using OSS in the early 90's10:15
unityompaul: mount should check if it already mounted. i do not see why a user should be unable to mount something he or she mounted twice10:15
Milkteathe same .m3u in rhythmbox works though10:15
kermSo, its just the m3u files you are using10:15
ompaulunity, just try it10:15
stefgoh... got something confused them... but anyway i'm watching soccer mainly... (ducks) :-)10:15
skavengei've got a question, at random times while X is running all my videos regardless of format all wash out .. a restart of X fixes it but its rather annoying, im using totem with the gstreamer backend, used xine as well and it does the same thing .. anyone know how to fix this or at least reset without restarting X?10:15
Milkteaokay, a .pls works10:16
Milkteathanks10:16
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unityompaul: try what? i have mounted something twice, and now it cannot be umounted10:16
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unityompaul: and if i mount it once, i CAN umount it10:16
arcado/server ch-irc.ch:6532110:17
ompaulunity, report it if your not happy10:17
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unityompaul: ok thanks for your help? do you know where it would be most appropriate to report?10:17
patrickjhow do I change the gnome splash for when i login?10:17
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ompaulunity, launchpad.net say the steps and what you expect10:18
MilkteaI installed the xmms-scrobbler package, but10:18
MilkteaHow do I configure it?10:18
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kristianCan a helpy guy out there help me edit xorg.conf?10:18
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hatredkristian: in slovenian language, just follow the commands......... http://www.ubuntu.si/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instaliranje_gonilikov_za_ati-jeve_karticei10:19
dlikristian, dpkg-reconfigure ?10:19
kristiandli, just did:p10:19
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kristianworking with the ati drivers now10:19
kristianhatred, norwegian!!;)10:19
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hatredkristian: commands are in english :)10:19
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kristianhehe, noooo!!:P10:20
Ademanis there any tab reading, (even better if it can read powertab's format) software for linux?10:20
kristianwell... windows got norwegian so...10:20
kristianseriously, can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file? :)10:20
Hawk|-someone knows something about usb-headsets? i cant get it working10:20
patrickjhow do I change the login splash screen10:20
diegoi'd like the updates to the i810 driver in Xorg's CVS installed. do i need to compile all of Xorg?10:20
riochHow do I shutdown the xserver so I just have the console left (i.e. no graphical interface whatsoever)10:20
TheMoebiusanyone have any idea why when i restart kdm it doesn't display any errors and yet I'm still at console?10:21
kermi'm having my own xorg issues...lol10:21
unityompaul: is it relevant that the mount is smbfs?10:21
riochkerm: me too! haha10:21
diegoTheMoebius: it probably logged them10:21
riochit's xorg problem day10:21
unityompaul: perhaps then the report should go to samba instead?10:21
kristiani don't know where to place the stuff..10:21
ciusanyone happen to know how to remove the metacity window borders for individual programs?10:21
patrickjmy xorg is going fine :P10:21
hatredrioch: ctrl+alt+f1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop10:21
diegocius: the program can specify that it doesn't want to be decorated10:21
amortvigili cant enter my phpmyadmin as root10:21
kristianpatrickj, can you tell me where you placed the "new" stuff from the binarydriverhowto? :):)10:22
ciusdiego, and of course thats the only way, right?  Gnome's philosophies getting in the way again...10:22
riochhatred: thanks. ill try those out.10:22
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diegocius: X's philosophies on window types. there's probably another way though10:22
kermisn't x86free an alternative to xorg?i remember using x86free on b.badger10:23
diegokerm: xfree86?10:23
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kermyeah...sorry10:23
eddiehey10:24
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diegokerm: most of those developers are now working on xorg due to licensing issues with xfree8610:24
Hawk|-howto run an usb-headset unter breezy?!10:24
eddieim dual booting ubuntu and winxp with grub 0.9510:24
Hawk|-under10:24
eddiei need help10:24
Hawk|-me 210:24
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Hawk|-gettin crazy10:24
dagrump_kristian: i had to load the retricted module b4 loading the driver then it worked10:24
johan_http://pastebin.com/73796210:24
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kermdiego: but they both serve the same function though right?10:25
eddiei'd like to make grub boot automatically winxp instead of ubuntu...10:25
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ompaulunity, samba10:25
diegokerm: yeah, they're both x servers10:25
kristiandagrump_:ok?.10:25
hatredkristian: like this ......... sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control10:25
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kermi'm wondering if i should try xfree86 then.10:25
unityompaul: ok thanks again10:26
eddiei'd like to make grub boot automatically winxp instead of ubuntu.. how do i do that, help please...10:26
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kristianhatred, install that?10:26
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inonosetting the sticky bit with chmod, is that recursive?10:26
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stefg!grub10:26
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto10:26
diegoeddie: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst change the line that says "default 0" from 0 to whatever line win xp is on minus 110:26
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ice228hi10:27
diegokerm: it's highly unlikely10:27
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ice228does anyone know how to install XMMS?10:27
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kermapt-get install xmms10:27
ZimShadyuse the package installer10:27
sktxhehe10:27
hatredkristian: you need restricted modules for your kernel version10:27
stefg!faq> kerm10:28
ZimShadyi need some help with a wirelss card10:28
ZimShadynetgear MA40110:28
ZimShadyi have tried everything10:28
kerm!faq10:28
ubotufaq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage10:28
ZimShadyi have tried all the internet documentation10:28
sktxtried tinkering with ndiswrapper?10:28
ZimShadythe forums10:28
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ZimShadyit doesnt use ndiswrapper10:28
kermstefg: did i do somethong wrong?10:28
kristianthat's wrong kernel version, hatred. How do I check it again? sudo...10:28
ice228ok, fropmthe package instaler what do i select? imrunning live CD , HD broke down10:29
hatredkristian: uname -r10:29
goonieshey guys, i was compiling my kernel and keep gettin an error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695810:29
diegoice228: search for "xmms"10:29
stefgno, except not reading the faq, where you find the info you want10:29
kristian2.6.15-25-k710:29
sktxndiswrapper, to the best of my knowledge, is a compatibility layer between windows wireless drivers and linux10:29
Hawk|-nobody has a usb-headset?!10:29
ice228i found xmms , butnothing seemslike the base install, more like plugins and such10:29
stefg!info xmms10:30
ubotuxmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB10:30
sktxice228: no plain ol' xmms pacage?10:30
IreclanI have questions about Ubuntu. Is someone available to answer them?10:30
gooniesam i doing something wrong that enables that error?10:30
ice228i ddint see that one,m rechecking10:30
sktxice228: you comfortable using the console?10:30
ice228sort of10:30
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diegoIreclan: just ask10:30
ZimShadysktx: what if there are drivers for redhat?10:30
ZimShadywould that work?10:30
MilkteaWhat's a good SVN.. thing?10:31
diegoMilktea: client?10:31
Milkteayeah10:31
ice228wait, found it10:31
sktxopen up your console and type sudo apt-get xmms10:31
sktxahh10:31
sktxor find it.10:31
ice228thanks, i was looking in the universe rep10:31
sktxhehe10:31
kristianhatred, restricted module installed10:31
diegoMilktea: the command line one isn't hard to work with10:31
IreclanIs Ubuntu for people who just want something to replace windows?10:31
ZimShadysktx: would redhat drivers work?10:31
MilkteaI don't remember the SVN rep URL that easily10:31
hatredkristian: Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo modprobe -r fglrx, uname -r, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf1, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:31
diegoMilktea: once you've checked out once you don't need the url every time10:32
MilkteaOh10:32
MilkteaWell, I don't have the command line one installed yet10:32
kristianwow10:32
MilkteaWhat's the package called?10:32
snoopshow can I make custom xkeybinding? like is there a way to find out the name of what is being clicked.. and map it to another key or a combo?10:32
ice228ubuntu is linux for people who just found out what linux is and want an easy approach to it,in my opinion10:32
diegoMilktea: apt-get install subversion10:32
Milkteathanks10:32
kermstefg: i wasn't aware my questions were that trivial...sorry.10:32
`underOATHDoes anyone know about using a phone as a modem with wvdial10:33
stefgnp... next you know10:33
ice228im running live cd with 400mhz and 394 mb ram, 8 meg video card, smooth , real smooth :)10:33
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IreclanSo, will I have to use the terminal alot with Ubuntu?10:33
ice228at times10:33
sktxZimShady: i don't know, really... what do you mean by redhat drivers? are they generic drivers in .rpm packages?10:33
ZimShadyon the netgear site10:33
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ZimShadythey have drivers for redhat10:33
hatredkristian: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add lines: Load GLcore Load glx Load dri Load extmod SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga Driver fglrx Option VideoOverlay on Option OpenGLOverlay off Option UseInternalAGPGART no10:33
ice228everything is pretty much iconified in the menus10:34
diegoIreclan: you shouldn't have to but it's a lot easier to give people commands instead of "Click on this button, then the left tab, etc"10:34
sktxZimShady: hrmmm10:34
ice228true10:34
ninixHi, anyone use point2play here ? i need some help for installation10:34
ZimShadyone sec ill link you10:34
sktxalrighty10:34
hatredkristian: then .......  sudo reboot10:34
IreclanHow good is the technical support for Ubuntu?10:34
ice228your in it10:34
ZimShadysktx: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/ma401.asp10:34
sktxits the best10:34
gooniesanyone experienced with command line errors help me out10:35
ice228this is the technical support lol10:35
gooniescan*10:35
ZimShadyon the left10:35
ZimShadythey have a link to redhat drivers10:35
ice228im experienced with them, i get them all the time10:35
hatred!support10:35
ubotuFor your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support10:35
sktxcommunity tech support.10:35
gooniessounded like a demand without the can10:35
charle97ireclan, technical support is done by the community10:35
IreclanIs there good documentation for Ubuntu?10:35
ice228!support10:35
ubotuFor your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support10:35
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ice228lol10:35
Flannelnot all of it.  You can pay for support too, if you want to.10:35
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hatred!documentation10:35
ubotudocumentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com10:35
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eddieive another question10:35
gooniesthis is the error i seem to be getting, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695810:36
ice228i need a 40 gig asap10:36
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stefgwho won'T?10:36
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eddieim new at linux, yesterday ive installed ubuntu, the installation process never asked me for a root password10:36
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IreclanSo, once I install Ubuntu, is there any way of getting it off the HD?10:36
eddieis there any default root password10:36
sktxwell Zim10:36
stefg!root10:36
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.10:36
ice228anyopne knowhowlong i cankeep my system up under live cd and will my files be deleted if i reboot?10:36
sktxZimShady: i would try it out, since nothing else has worked10:36
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AlexCHey10:37
AlexCI've just installed XGL Oh my god it's amazing10:37
sktxZimShady: i'd download it and pick through it and try and offer some insight10:37
charle97eddie, try an empty password10:37
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Flannelice228: you can setup the liveCD to write some config stuff to the disk, but yeah, by default, everything is fresh10:37
AlexCDoes anyone have a list of shortcuts or a program to configure them?10:37
eddieive tried10:37
charle97eddie, if you get in make sure you make a password10:37
Flanneleddie: there is no root password, as root isn't used.10:37
ice228hard drive is fubar\10:37
ZimShadysktx: it actually says it will probably work with other kernals10:37
ZimShadyso im gonna try it10:37
MilkteaI -would- use Ubuntu with XGL for everything10:37
eddiewhat do i do if i want to run root account10:38
Ireclanerrrrm.....10:38
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AlexCMilktea, It's great!!10:38
charle97eddie, sudo10:38
Flanneleddie: read that page.  it tells you.10:38
AlexCMilktea, do you know a list of shortcuts to do this with?10:38
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Ireclan<Ireclan> So, once I install Ubuntu, is there any way of getting it off the HD?10:38
Milkteabut RO doesn't play under it, Wc3 under XGL is buggy (normal under Gnome, though)10:38
FlannelIreclan: yeah, delete it.10:38
Milkteaand Gimp isn't as good as ps in my mind10:38
FlannelIreclan: reformat the ubuntu partitions10:38
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MilkteaAlexC: try getting gset-compiz10:38
sktxZimShady: good luck.. it might require some tweakin' but i'll bet it'll fit :p10:38
IreclanFlannel reformat with what program?10:39
sktxMilktea: yeah there are a few things that PS can do that the GIMP can't10:39
Ireclan*:10:39
kristianhatred, i didn't know that computer did what it did when i pressed ctrl + alt + f110:39
AlexCMilktea, is there a way to get Metacity themes in XGL?10:39
kristian:P10:39
snoopswhat's the key combo to simulate a middle click?10:39
MilkteaI dunno10:39
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kristianso you have to send the things again hatred10:39
sktxMilktea: but it still a pretty badass graphics suite10:39
AlexCMilktea, ahhh ok, just the default looks like poo, litertly10:39
FlannelIreclan: whatever you'd like.  You could use a liveCD, or, as I presume you'll be removing ubuntu and going back to [whatever]  you can use the disk utils on that10:39
Milkteasktx: Yeah, I opened up my older .psd's with gimp10:39
kristianand what do the commands do hatred?10:40
MilkteaA bunch of the layer effects were... gone10:40
FlannelMilktea, AlexC, take the XGL/compiz discussions to #ubuntu-xgl please10:40
stefg!themes10:40
ubotuFind your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy10:40
AlexCFlannel, woops, didn't know there was one - sorry10:40
IreclanWindows has no HD utilities for deleating HD partitions, that I know of.10:40
hatredkristian: those commands are needed for proper fglrx install10:40
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skavengewindows uses fdisk10:41
FlannelIreclan: yes it does.  fdisk.  Or you can get some third party software.  Or you can use the ubuntu liveCD, but that won't be able to format it for ntfs10:41
skavengewhich is on the install cd ..10:41
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hatredkristian: you must shutdown your X and run commands in console10:41
kristianokai...10:41
kristianI have to write down all of the commands by hand?10:42
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hatredkristian: Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo modprobe -r fglrx, uname -r, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf1, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:42
IreclanWhere uis this "fdisk"?10:42
Ireclan*is10:42
hatredkristian: yep10:42
kristianokai then :P;)10:42
hyalu_hi I was wondering if theres any package that would allow me to select an access point via a GUI - it would list available access points and show their strengths and allow me ot connect to one or the other.10:42
FlannelIreclan: ask in ##windows, I don't know.10:42
hatredkristian: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add lines: Load GLcore Load glx Load dri Load extmod SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga Driver fglrx Option VideoOverlay on Option OpenGLOverlay off Option UseInternalAGPGART no10:42
ice228fdisk ?10:42
skavengeon the windows cd, when you boot off the cd to command prompt you run it then10:42
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hatredkristian: then .......  sudo reboot10:43
ice228go to http://www.bootdisk.com, getthewindows98 se bootdisk, its inthere10:43
IreclanI have no Windows CD. It came preinstalled.10:43
ice228bootdisk.com10:43
Flannelhatred: shouldn't need to reboot.10:43
charle97ireclan, a dell?10:43
IreclanI have Windows XP.10:43
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ice228problyt an HP10:43
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IreclanYes, an HP.10:44
ice228ding! pavilion1265 seriesright?10:44
charle97ireclan, that's how they lock you in so you don't try things10:44
skavengeregardless you should have a backup disc  with windows utilities, if not bootdisk.com has floppy boot images you with fdisk you can make10:44
hatredFlannel: he shouldn't but for sure :)10:44
Ireclana705W10:45
ice228old10:45
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snoopscan someone show me how to bind a key to another key with from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse ? I'm wanting to put my sidescroll left button to be a middle click.. no idea how to do it10:45
dagrump_hp is pain in the butt10:45
ice228not old, just sucky10:45
snoopscan someone help with that?10:45
IreclanIs what my computer says.10:45
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kristianhatred, <verzija kernela> ???10:45
hatredkristian: kernel version, replace with what you get from uname -r10:46
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ice228i have an a1265w , paid 691$ for 512 DDR2 PC-3200 , 2.93ghz 1mb L2 and an Ultra ATA 200gb HD,on boardvideoand evertything else, 9-1 cardreader10:46
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daddiushello10:46
IreclanThe major problem I had with Ubuntu last time I tried it was with it not detecting my monitor resolutions correctly and it not doing a damn thing with my modem.10:47
hatredkristian: all commands ......... http://www.ubuntu.si/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instaliranje_gonilikov_za_ati-jeve_karticei10:47
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charle97ireclan, how long ago?10:47
kristianaaah, ok hatred..10:47
inonohow do I untar something into a specific directory10:48
hatredkristian: yes , article is in slovenian language, but commands are en10:48
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KyoLptp`_Hey10:48
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KyoLptp`_How do I get my microphone working properly for skype?10:48
skavengeinono; follow the tar command with a path - tar -xvf blah.tar /blah/10:48
IreclanI tried Hoary Hedgehog.10:48
IreclanIt was a nightmare.10:48
inonoah10:48
inononice10:48
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inonoi was going to xargs mv but that wouldnt work10:48
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inonoskavenge, that doesnt work it tries to extract 1 file from the archive10:49
hatredkristian: print the procedure and you must succeed10:49
skavengehm10:49
IreclanI couldn't get online or anything.10:50
IreclanIt just.......didn't detect the modem.10:50
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inonoskavenge, found it its -C bah10:50
IreclanDidn't have a driver for it.10:50
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howy424hey, does anyone any experience with HTML editors on ubuntu? I just tried Bluefish, which I heard good things about, and it crashed within the first 5 mins of using it!10:50
skavengeinono; yeah i was just reading the man page saw that too heh10:51
Jack_SparrowIreclan: DOnt blame a distro or Linux because it dosent support a cheezy winmodem.10:51
IreclanSo, then I tried SuSe 10. No luck with it either, but it at least got my resolution right.10:51
inonoskavenge, now how would I untar every file in a directory..hmm10:52
skavengegot me there i dont use tar much10:52
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KyoLptp`_Anyone?10:52
diegoinono: cd to that directory?10:52
diegohowy424: try nvu10:52
hatred!ati10:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:52
IreclanMr. Sparrow, I don't know about you, but out here, dial-up and a "cheezy" Winmodem are all we've got.10:52
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inonodiego, in it already, tar xzvf * doesnt work10:52
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Flannelkristian: you can get back on irc with irssi, in a console.10:53
hatred!fglrx10:53
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto10:53
Jack_SparrowKyoLptp`_:  the word on the street is that Skype for Linux is still a bit buggy but improving10:53
skavengenot all modems are WINmodems though .. the standard hardware modems are much more compatible with linux10:53
KyoLptp`_Hm, well can I at least configure my microphone in Ubuntu?10:53
KyoLptp`_I can't hear anything through it10:53
IreclanI don't have a hardware modem.10:53
skavengehence the issues with detecting it10:54
Jack_SparrowIreclan: You can get a real modem that works for windows and Linux for $20... Not one that is simulated by the os XP10:54
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IreclanI don't think Walmart carries it out here either.10:54
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gooniescan someone help me, ive searched ubuntu forums, googled, and no success, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1695810:54
FlannelJack_Sparrow: you can get winmodems to work with linux, most of them anyway.10:54
Jack_SparrowUse using linmodem drivers10:54
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Jack_SparrowBut they are still a low end product even for Windows10:55
skavengewith some work yes, its not spoonfed though .. some people dont like work heh10:55
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udk____hey all10:55
goonieskeep getting this error, figures the error i get is no where to be found online10:55
kristianFlannel, what? irc?10:55
udk____anyone knows how to get NX running on Dapper/amd64?10:55
kristianI have written down everything now hatred10:56
kristianEmh, Why am I doing this? :)10:56
gooniesanyone? =\10:56
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howy424diego: thanks for that, I just checked it out but I am after a "non-wysiwyg" editor10:57
`underOATHHow long until the forums are back up. I need to read a post quick before I leave for vacation.10:57
IreclanDo you guys/gals have any reccomendations for a distro with a good track record for compatibility with Winmodems?10:57
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diegohowy424: oh, sorry. gedit works :)10:57
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goonieslindows10:57
goonieslol10:57
skavengelinux has a bad record with winmodems, its not distro specific10:57
dagrump_goonies:  did you go to the url?10:57
gooniesnaw i mustve missed it10:57
daddiusHello is there a way to disable daemons on startup?10:57
howy424diego: that's cool, lemme go have a look10:58
MilkteaCan OpenOffice write/read .docx yet10:58
hatredkristian: don't blame me if something goes wrong but if works on my pc.........10:58
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IreclanI suppose the only alternative is to get a Mac..........10:58
IreclanBut they're pretty expensive, you know?10:59
hatreddaddius: system services10:59
diegoIreclan: or broadband?10:59
daddiushatred, yea10:59
gooniesdagrump_, can u repost plz10:59
lophyteIreclan: or a Linux-compatible modem, or a high-speed connection :P10:59
kimoIreclan: or sreial modem!10:59
IreclanThey don't offer broadband where I live.10:59
`underOATHWHEN ARE THE FORUMS GOING BACK UP10:59
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daddiushatred, thanks10:59
Jack_SparrowIreclan: That makes sence, Buy a New Mac for Thousand instead of a decent modem for $2010:59
skavengeas was said before, 90% of the winmodems will work with some configuration work, but its not going to work off a fresh install11:00
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`underOATHHello, anyone ?!11:00
dagrump_goonies : i believe thats the pastebin for file errors11:00
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IreclanAnd none of the stores carry a serial modem.11:00
gooniesso im pasting it in the wrong place?11:00
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IreclanFrom what I can tell, anyway.....11:00
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Sanne`underOATH, might get better response in #ubuntuforums, they might know11:01
kimoIreclan: Get the super cheap Conexant modem & buy their driver ?!11:01
Jack_Sparrowgoonies: Yea, it tries to get you to set up an account just to read your post11:01
dagrump_i m not sure just started playing w/ this11:01
skavengeor order one online11:01
dlikimo, no, buy a real modem :)11:01
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IreclanThey don't stock Connexant.11:01
gooniesoh sheez11:01
dlikimo, not conexant11:01
kimo:)11:01
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kimoeveryone has a conexant where I live11:02
Odeihi, anyone know where I can find a default apache2.conf file?11:02
hatredbuy stuff with tux logo on it11:02
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skavengeorder it online then, dont rely on walmart for your computing needs .. i ordered everything off the net when i lived in the sticks11:02
hatredOdei: apache.org?11:02
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FlannelOdei: ubuntu doesn't use a default apache.conf file11:02
IreclanHmmmmmmmm...........11:03
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OdeiFlannel: the one that comes with the fresh install11:03
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Fata1is ubuntu normally unstable or have i just failed as an operator? :P11:03
Fata1i've had 3-4 freezes in the past day11:04
lophyteworks perfect for me11:04
hatred!irc11:04
ubotuirc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines11:04
Jack_SparrowUb is very stable what is the prob11:04
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woobywhen attempting to build an amd64 .deb of wine, i get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables11:04
skavengegolden here, ive never had it crash11:04
howy424diego: yes, gedit looks like it could be great. My fav of all time, on Win, is EditPlus, and it looks a lot like that11:04
Stormx2How do I make ubuntu re-read my fstab without rebooting?11:04
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bbrazilwooby: aptitude install build-essential11:04
diegohowy424: cool11:04
FlannelOdei: hmm, well, you could always reinstall apache, if you purge it on the uninstall, you can reinstall and be fresh again.11:04
Fata1i dont know what the problem is...i will be doing some random action and it will just freeze11:04
sktxFata1: what do you mean freezes? like hard lockups?11:04
penguin42Stormx2: depends what you want to do, but mount -a   will try and mount everything in there11:04
howy424going to try Quanta too11:04
Fata1yep, no controls work11:04
sktxFata1: in a specific program, or...?11:05
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Jack_SparrowStormx2:  You trying to mount other partitions11:05
woobybbrazil: they're up to date, still same error though :(11:05
gooniesJack_Sparrow, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/87111:05
Fata1it's happened when i've tried to mount an NTFS drive and when trying to get to my myspace homepage11:05
dribbleany of y'all have problems with rhythmbox crashing into an un-killable state?11:05
bbrazilwooby: are you on solaris by any chance :)11:05
gooniesdoes that one let u view my error11:05
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woobybbrazil: na11:05
sktxFata1: have you installed any wonky packages ?11:05
dribbleand excuse my southern (online) twang ;)11:05
MilkteaHow do I remove a dir11:05
Fata1if it was one of the updates, yes11:05
dribbleMilktea, rm -r directory11:05
bbrazilwooby: you're running this off amd64?11:05
Fata1i only installed the critical updates11:05
Milkteathanks11:05
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woobybbrazil: correct11:05
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woobybbrazil: 6.0611:06
Rude_BoyI'm having trouble upgrading to dapper. The update-manager tells me that it has "Invalid package information" and to "please report this as a bug".11:06
SanneFata1, sometimes those problems might be because of hardware troubles, I would suggest to let memtest run to check your memory.11:06
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sktxFata1: that shouldn't do it (ideally)11:06
sktxgood call sanne11:07
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Jack_Sparrowgoonies:  What is it you are trying to do that generated that output11:07
Fata1how steep is the learning curve for using the terminal after being a lifetime windows users?11:07
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Fata1cause i cant even extract a tar.gz file in it11:07
Fata1:/11:07
gooniesJack_Sparrow, compile my kernel11:07
penguin42Fatal: What happens - the tar crashes or the whole machine?11:07
MilkteaIs there any way11:07
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Milkteato remove a svn co11:07
stefg!bash11:07
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands11:07
Fata1no input device will work11:07
SanneFata1, if you can type, and follow directions, the terminal is not hard ;)11:07
Fata1i assume the machine is frozen11:07
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Milkteawithout having to hit y every time it asks to delete something11:07
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bbrazilwooby: does gcc work for a quick hello world?11:08
roy_hey everyone.  quick question.  I have a folder full of pdfs.  they all have the same general filename tnryyyymmdd.  some have the .pdf extension, most don't.  I want to make all of them have the .pdf extension.  how do I do this in command line?11:08
Jack_SparrowFataIt just takes a little time..11:08
FlannelMilktea: what are you trying to do?11:08
skavengeMilktea: rm -rf then11:08
Jack_SparrowFata It just takes a little time..11:08
Milkteathanks11:08
Fata1hehe, i couldn't even figure out how to install bitchx11:08
Fata1i was looking for the exe file :/11:08
skavengebx is in the repos11:08
Gullstad!automatix11:08
ubotuautomatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.11:08
woobybbrazil: yeah11:08
FlannelMilktea: remove a local subversion copy?  yeah, just delete everything11:08
Gullstad!easyubuntu11:08
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.11:08
amortvigilhow do i get outof root?11:08
woobybbrazil: checking out the config.log, it seems to be skipping a bunch of libs on account of "incompatible"11:09
skavenge'exit'?11:09
Milkteayeah but using -r without -f makes me hit y a lot11:09
FlannelRude_Boy: you might check launchpad.net (that's ubuntu's bug repository), they might have a workaround/fix11:09
Milktea:[11:09
bbrazilwooby: I suggest digging into the ./configure and seeing what test it's running11:09
Sanneroy_, I'm usinf the command 'rename' for such things. If you don't have it, you should be able to install it through your package manager. Ri learn how to use it, try 'man rename'.11:09
woobybbrazil: so it can't find a working -lc11:09
fyrestrtramortvigil: type exit11:09
Flannelamortvigil: depends on how you got into it11:09
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bbrazilwooby: maybe it doesn't like amd64?11:09
fyrestrtrroy_: or, just use cp11:09
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johan_how do I take a screenshot from the terminal?11:09
woobybbrazil: it definitely does not lol11:09
gooniesJack_Sparrow, didnt realize that that first pastebin made people register to view posts...heh11:09
Jack_Sparrownp11:10
OdeiFlannel: thanks, I just realised I wasn't removing the right part of the apache install, fixed now :)11:10
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woobybbrazil: any idea where i might be able to get a built 64 bit deb for this, some unnoficial repository?11:10
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skavengeive heard wine in general doesnt like 64 bit systems, but thats just rumor11:10
bbrazilwooby: google it i'd say - or check the wiki11:10
Jack_Sparrowgoonies: what is the purpose of the new kernel you are trying to compile.  I only compiled one.11:10
woobybbrazil: ok thanks anyway11:10
Milkteasvn: Can't set file 'athenadev/.svn/entries' read-only: Operation not permitted11:11
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Milkteao.O11:11
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gooniesto get hyperthreading to work, and its very bloated with stuff i dont need11:11
gooniesim already done configuring but as u can see it crashes11:11
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goonieshttp://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/871 , for those that havent seen my problem11:11
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Jack_Sparrowgoonies: trust me, you are not done configuring11:11
gooniesthis isnt the first kernel ive configured11:12
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skavengeim offically throwing frost/limewire out the window .. damn things lock up every other time loading 'core components' and i cant figure out the culprit11:12
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gooniesthis is the first time i run into this problem though11:12
dribbleanybody with crappy rythmbox problems: crashing and inability to hard-kill the process11:12
lasindiHi all, I need to install an RPM, and I know that I can install the RPM system through apt-get, but I was wondering if there was any (better) alternatives. For example, I use rpm2tgz on my Slackware machine. Is there something like this for the Debian packaging system?11:12
skavengelasindi: 'alien'11:13
asdf25hey, i'm having a problem with azureus... when it pops up the error message window the "hide" button doesn't work so it stays open forever... anyone know how to fix that?11:13
mwedribble: not even kill -9 works?11:13
finalbetais their a way to start xchat/gaim when the session starts and put them both inside the tray? (or panel)11:13
dribblemwe, naw - the process is listed as 'uninterruptable'11:13
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goonies=\11:14
Fata1what's the command to mount an ntfs drive?11:14
siriusnovahey guys11:14
dribblemwe, and kill -9 doesn't have any effect11:14
siriusnovaanyone here using Beagle?11:14
asdf25mount -t nfts11:14
Stormx2siriusnova: I do.11:14
mwedribble: what is it listed as with ps aux?11:14
siriusnovaStormx2 - does it index your applications?11:14
siriusnovai installed it and it works fine for files but apps dont show up11:14
asdf25mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /media/whatever11:14
dribblemwe, haven't checked yet -- i'm brining it up now, and expect it to crash within half an hour, so i'll keep yah posted11:14
Fata1i get permission denied when trying to access those drives11:14
lasindiskavenge: okay thanks11:15
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skavengenp11:15
asdf25er, run it with sudo?11:15
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goonies=\11:15
gooniesguess no one knows11:15
Rude_BoyFlannel: Thanks, i foud it, it's confirmed bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/48215/+viewstatus. Any idea if it'll help to do it manually?11:15
Fata1it mounts fine, but i cant access them11:15
asdf25ohh, right11:15
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Hawk|-someone uses an usb-headset?11:15
Stormx2siriusnova: I... don't know.11:15
Stormx2siriusnova: Let me see11:15
Hawk|-i need help get it working11:16
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mweFata1: use -o umask=022211:16
asdf25#/dev/hdc1       /media/WinXP1    ntfs    umask=0022,ro   0       011:16
Jack_SparrowFata1: I used the disk mounter script to mount my ntfs and fat32 drives, Please avoid writing to ntfs unless you want to cry..11:16
asdf25that's the line i have in /etc/fstab11:16
agotfreddoes anyone know of a good script to install XGL or would it be the best just to do it yourself?11:16
Stormx2siriusnova: It doesn't :O:O11:16
kristianhatred? this ... sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control dosn't work:S11:16
siriusnovaStormx2 - yeah i guess its a bug :/11:16
mweasdf25: you're allowing write access11:16
kristianhatred, <verzija kernela> am i going to switch that with my own kernel?11:16
mweasdf25: oh no11:17
erUSULgoonies: i have seen the page but can not figure out what can be wrong. it seems a bug to me. have you retried after an 'make mrproper'?11:17
asdf25really? "ro"11:17
asdf25yeah11:17
mweasdf25: but 0022 is write access11:17
gooniesi havent tried make mrproper11:17
mweasdf25: lose ro and change it to 022211:17
gooniesshould i type that before i compile?11:17
Gullstad!ircii11:17
GrogsIf there any reason why I can't open 7zip files?11:17
ubotuI know nothing about ircii11:17
goonieswell obviously..heh11:17
GullstadHow start ircII?11:17
dagrump_agotfred: do it urself 2 many varibles get all info 1st11:17
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erUSULgoonies: just to be sure that there is no corrupt file from previus compilations11:17
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gooniesthis is the first time i ever compiled on ubuntu11:18
agotfreddoes anyone know what file manager that's on this screenshot?11:18
sktxGullstad: is it installed?11:18
Gullstadsktx: Yes.11:18
Jack_SparrowFata1: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/ use the diskmounter script then restart your box...11:18
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Rude_BoyThanks, i foud it, it's confirmed bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/48215/+viewstatus. Any idea if it'll help to do it manually?11:18
erUSULgoonies: auch!! then it is a bug you should report it...11:18
erUSUL!bugs11:19
ubotuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com11:19
sktxGullstad: open up a console and type ircii11:19
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Gullstadsktx: Nope :s11:19
GrogsMus tbe boring saying that all day Jack_Sparrow , although I'm sure it will help him just as much as it did me and mean a lot to him too. :)11:19
agotfreddoes anyone know what file manager that's on this screenshot? http://www.gnome-look.org//content/pre2/35812-2.jpg11:19
Stormx2Guys... I need to know an absolutely failsafe way to move files in a directory into the parent directory. For example ~/lol1/lol2/* to ~/lol111:19
erUSULGrogs: you do not have a program instaled that can handle them11:19
Stormx2I guess mv... I just don't know the perfect syntax for it :P11:20
GrogsI thought i did.11:20
Jack_SparrowGrogs: YEs a little boring, but glad it helped you...11:20
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Stormx22 years of music is on the line so I don't want to rush into it :P11:20
dooglusStormx2: what if the files are already in the target directory?11:20
CrippsFXStormx2, don't know the mv syntax?11:20
Grogs Even downloaded another (the current archive manager seems to support them according to description) which doeesn't open it.11:20
Stormx2dooglus: Mainly folders, roughly 300. Folders contain files and other folders. Its a VFAT partition11:20
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kbrooksOK Ubuntu community11:20
dooglusStormx2: I mean if ~/lol1/README.txt and ~/lol1/lol2/README.txt both exist already?11:20
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erUSULStormx2: sacado de un how to '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)'11:21
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Stormx2dooglus: Oh. None of the same names.11:21
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Stormx2I checked that.11:21
Stormx2Just a few folders.11:21
erUSULStormx2: from a how to '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)'11:21
Stormx2Wait they do have the same names11:21
KenSentMe|afkI want to start all over with configuring cups. How can i put cups in the standard config?11:21
BearPersonStormx2, mv -T foo/bar foo might work11:21
MilkteaIs shift+p some kind of hotkey11:21
MilkteaI can't type capital p11:21
Stormx2XD~~11:21
erUSULKenSentMe|afk: remove --purge cups and reinstall11:21
dooglusStormx2: don't do what erUSUL is saying unless you want to copy the files.  It'll be much quicker to move them that to do what he says11:21
KenSentMe|afkerUSUL: then it also removes ubuntu-desktop :)11:22
Stormx2Yes. 30gb would take a long time to copy :P11:22
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dooglusStormx2: you just want to move stuff, right?11:22
CrippsFXcd ~/lol1/11:22
erUSULKenSentMe|afk: install it again after that11:22
Stormx2Let me get rid of folders of the same name.11:22
askyledpkg-reconfigure cups (?)11:22
CrippsFXbleh.11:22
CrippsFXit's almost bedtime11:22
sktxagotfred: that looks like nautilus to me11:23
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kbrooksOK, Ubuntu Community. We all should testt EasyUbuntu (use it). if it doesn't work, file a bug at https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu. Version to test: 3.02.1, available at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz11:23
Stormx2dooglus: Yeah basicly...11:23
Fata1ran diskmounter and i'm still denied access of viewing the drives11:23
Sutenerhoi11:23
agotfredsktx: just found out that it is the file manager named Thunar11:23
Stormx2I'm gonna just check the stuff on mv11:23
mweKenSentMe|afk: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. it doesn' contain any actual packages. reinstall that afterwards as well if you like11:23
Jack_Sparrowfata, did you restart your system?11:23
Bassettshow can i force a window to close?11:23
Fata1it said i didn't have to11:23
dooglusStormx2: "mv * .." will do what you want, unless some of the stuff is hidden (ie. begins with a dot)11:24
Jack_SparrowI said you do..11:24
asdf25Bassetts: xkill is one way11:24
Fata1fine...11:24
Stormx2dooglus: Right, OK.11:24
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Bassettshow do i open that11:24
Jack_SparrowTHey will be on your desktop when it opens11:24
Stormx2dooglus: I'm gonna do that, thanks!11:24
mweBassetts: killall -9 program name11:24
askylenaive question: i can't get the old school curses-based installer from the dapper i386-desktop cd, can i?11:24
asdf25Bassetts: run "xkill" at command line and click on the window11:24
Bassettsthanks11:24
BearPersonStormx2, check if your mv supports the -T option11:24
Bassetts:)11:24
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axs221 /msg nickserv set hide email on11:25
Jack_SparrowFata1 I need to change the docs in that script to say restart...11:25
Stormx2dooglus: Right, that worked well.11:25
Stormx2Thank god that is over11:25
Stormx2I swear if i had lost that data :P11:25
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Stormx2I'd have to recover it11:25
Stormx2and that'd be a bummer11:25
Stormx2:P11:25
kristianhatred, you here?11:26
Jack_SparrowStormx2: why not put it on another partition11:26
MilkteaWhat's the bash command similar to Dos's ipconfig11:26
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Fata1well shit, you were right.11:26
Jack_SparrowGee11:27
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CrippsFXMilktea, ifconfig  ?11:27
snoopsanyone familar with xmodmap?11:27
kbrooksMilktea: ifconfig, but ifconfig has more (as u can CONFIGure InterFaces)11:27
yomeHi all.  What would be an easy way to install ubuntu on a cdrom-less laptop?11:27
Jack_SparrowFata1: glad to help11:27
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Fata1maybe you should have the author change the wording that says you don't have to reboot :P11:27
mwesnoops: somewhat11:27
penguin42yome: USB CDROM if you can borrow one11:27
dooglusStormx2: if the parent has a non-empty directory with the same name as something you're moving, you'll see an error: "mv: cannot move `foo' to a subdirectory of itself, `./foo'"11:27
Milkteathanks11:27
yomepenguin42, I might buy one if it's really needed.  Do I have any other option?11:27
snoopsis it possible with xmodmap to map the a different button to the function of another key mwe?11:28
yomeFrom a USB key, say?11:28
CrippsFXalright ... bedtime.11:28
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Jack_Sparrowgnight11:28
askyleyome:  DSL on a disk on key?11:28
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kristianFlannel, you here ?11:28
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askylegnight11:28
Jack_Sparrowflash drive11:28
snoopslike.. I have a tilt left on my scroll wheel.. I'm wanting to map it to be middle mouse button11:28
yomeaskyle, DSL as in Damn Small Linux?11:28
askyleyome: yep11:28
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Jack_Sparrowyome: flashdrive11:28
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mwesnoops: you can't map mouse buttons with xmodmap11:28
useroneI need to view a MS publisher file..I have searched for solutions but there dont seem to be any..I have tried Scribus and almost every import option available in Open Office. Is there a good 'converter' app for Ubuntu?11:28
yomeOK.  Which image do I need to put on a flash drive?11:28
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skavengethe laptops gotta be able to boot off the device though as well11:29
penguin42(Can Ubuntu live CDs PXE boot other machines like Knoppix can?)11:29
yomeThe normal image?11:29
askyle1 sec, checking....11:29
mwesnoops: I found a program that does it once but I forgot the name. sorry11:29
snoopsmwe err but umm umm yes11:29
snoopsif I type in this11:29
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yomeHas anybody here installed Ubuntu with success on a Thinkpad X60s by any chance?11:30
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mwesnoops: xmouse something IIRC11:30
Jack_SparrowYome, I would think so.. But not sure how that image would go...11:30
MinscHello11:30
yomeJack_Sparrow, OK, I'll look into it.  Thanks.11:30
snoopsxmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3...right up to 20" it'll assign the buttons correctly11:30
Jack_Sparrownp11:30
snoopsif I change the 1 2 3 around, it'll trigger different buttons11:30
yomeLast question: Ubuntu should be easier to install than most other distro on a recent laptop, right?11:30
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snoopsbut I can't put the same number twice..11:31
Fata1does ubuntu play mp3s in stock form?11:31
Jack_Sparrowyome: I think it would be a good choice11:31
snoopsnope Fata111:31
skavengeubuntu is probably the easiest to install, period.11:31
mwesnoops: what I meant was you cannot map a keyboard key to act as a mouse button11:31
useroneI tried GIMP too....that doesnt do it...11:31
Jack_Sparrowfata !restricted11:31
askyleyome: the DSL faq says  there's an option to install DSL to a pendrive from the livecd11:31
snoops!restricted > Fata111:31
mwesnoops: with xmodmap11:31
snoopsmwe oh right, well you can use xvkdb for that11:31
askyleskavenge: that kind of contradicts the experience i had today11:31
yomeI guess hardware support is more important than ease of installation for me.  Does Ubuntu still wins there?11:32
skavengeive got a year old dell laptop and everything worked out of box except wireless11:32
yomeaskyle, OK, so then I'd go from DSL to Ubuntu?11:32
penguin42yome: Reasonably good11:32
skavengeaskyle: yeah from what i hear in the channel i got lucky11:32
stefg!hardware11:32
ubotuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport11:32
askyleyome: more or less : )11:33
mwesnoops: I see11:33
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snoopsbut yeah my issue mwe is I can't type in say xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 3 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20"11:33
MinscAny ubuntu experts want to give me a hand? I've got a devil of a problem11:33
MilkteaIs shift+p some kind of hotkey11:33
MilkteaI can't type capital p11:33
useroneany ideas on the MS publisher view/conversion?11:33
snoopsbecause 3 is in there twice.. but umm that's what I'm after11:33
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mwesnoops: oh11:33
penguin42Minsc: Just ask - someone will try and help11:33
bbrazilmwe: use capslock?11:33
yomeOK, thanks for answering my questions.  I'll be back when it doesn't work ;)11:33
bbrazilMilktea: ^11:33
askyleskavenge: i had absolutely no luck getting dapper into my gf's box11:33
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askyleSTFW'd a lot, mind you... all i found were "check your media" suggestions11:34
snoopsbut xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20" is absolutely fine.. I can't use the same number twice basically11:34
mwebbrazil: huh?11:34
Minscpenguin: Alrighty. I've got the infinite sound loop problem. Whenever a sound is played, the first half second of it loops forever, and everything else stalls. The strangest part is that this only occurs in my installed ubuntu, but the live cd works fine.11:34
skavengeaskyle: i see alot of people getting stuck with dapper, especially on dual boots .. i did a fresh install of ubuntu on this laptop and it was smooth11:34
bbrazilmwe: bad tab completion11:34
askylemilktea: does it happen on every application or only on some?11:34
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askyleyome: good luck : )11:34
Bassettswhy does text seem to be so small in firefox and ubuntu??11:35
askyle(oops, "latency" ; ) )11:35
Bassettsits alot smaller than in win at same res11:35
useronesomebody must at least have an idea I can try for viewing/converting MS publisher files?11:35
penguin42Bassetts: At a guess because either the font size defaults are differnt or because ubuntu is reading your display size (wrongly?)11:35
useroneI tired everyhthing I know (which may not be alot, I agree!! lol)11:35
askyleskavenge: no dualboot here.... we just wanted to do away with windows : )11:36
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stefgIt'sthe xservers -dpi setting11:36
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Bassettsstefg: penguin42: any wiki pages on it?11:36
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skavengeaskyle: well thats good at least, same here .. ran into a windows problem, found my cd but not the case (which the key is on) so i dumped it for ubuntu heh11:36
axs221Bassetts: try opening up System > Preferences > Fonts > Details and changing the DPI resolution there11:36
snoopsanyway idea mwe?11:36
axs221if you're in gnome that is11:37
mwesnoops: no not really. sorry11:37
faki3where are the dapper backports?11:37
Bassettsaxs221: whats a good dpi for 1280x1024@70Hz11:37
askyleskavenge: heh : ) and before i went to her place i said myself "should i take the breezy cd too? naaaaah"11:37
Fata1im not finding this universe repository11:37
penguin42Bassetts: Depends on your physical monitor size11:38
useroneok..does anyone know ANY good general file converters for Ubuntu?11:38
askyleuserone: what kind of files?11:38
penguin42Bassetts: Between 75 and 100dpi is normal11:38
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axs221Bassetts: If you open that up in Gnome, it will dynamically change the DPI as you scroll the numbers, just click the up arrow until it looks the right size for you11:38
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useroneaskyle: MS Publisher11:38
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MinscSo I guess no one can offer any help, huh11:38
saxinFatal1, /etc/apt/sources.list11:38
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stefg!ask11:39
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)11:39
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skavengeaskyle: which may not have been much better of you were planning to update, ive seen alot of snafu's in here the last few days with updating to dapper from breezy as well .. but that may be user error and have nothing to do with ubuntu either heh11:39
faki3!ask11:39
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penguin42axs221: Hmm, is that supposed to match the value reported by xdpyinfo ?11:39
mwesnoops: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're trying to achieve11:39
Minscubotu: If that was directed at me, I already did. ;)11:39
ubotuI know nothing about If that was directed at me, I already did. ;)11:39
askyleuserone: no idea, sorry : (   (wow, it's been ages since i've heard of publisher... only decent MS app ever)11:39
MinscEr.11:39
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kb1ibtwhat is the easiest way to get cairo 1.2.0 running on my dapper since it isn't in apt-get yet11:39
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Sanneuserone, I'd be glad to help, but I never used MS Publisher. No idea what kind of files they are, but MS is known for their incompatible file formats.11:40
eobanbuserone, perhaps it'll open with openoffice, or abiword?11:40
useroneaskyle: thanks anyway..any ideas you might have would be useful11:40
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useronesanne: thanks..any ideas you might have would be useful11:40
useroneeobanb: I tried almost all options in Open Office11:41
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askyleskavenge: my own update worked well.. not flawlessly, but well : )   -- the point was, her poor box couldn't handle the demand of loading a whole OS while installing an OS.11:41
eobanbuserone, maybe Scribus?11:41
axs221penguin42: It doesn't seem like it, mine is 75x75 on xdpyinfo and 94 dpi on the font preferences11:41
useroneeobanb: I tried scribus too...11:42
Sanneuserone, I doubt it's useful, but ask MS for a format converter... (not really, but still...)11:42
penguin42ax221: Ditto, 75 on xdpy and 96 on font pref11:42
useronesanne: I even tried that!! There are no free viewers for MS Publisher files, not even from MS!!11:42
faki3http://www.scribus.net/11:42
Cainushey can anyone tell me how to being troubleshooting my "no sound" problem?  I know all the hardware is good because this used to be a win32 box and the sound worked then...11:43
useronesanne: and the only file converters require Windows..11:43
Cainuser being = begin :)11:43
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useronethere *must* be a good general file coverter app for Linux/Ubuntu?11:43
Sanneuserone, I suspected that, but kudos for trying with MS! :)11:43
kb1ibtCainus: first run lshw and see if the card is recognized11:44
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boricuahow do i get xgl supoprt in dapper? i just install compiz compiz gnome and xgl xserver what else11:44
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stefg!xgl11:44
eobanbuserone, how do you figure that there could be something like a 'general file converter'11:44
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:44
eobanbuserone, file formats tend to be very specific in design11:44
Cainuskblibt: yes it is11:44
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penguin42userone: Well for images there is a program called 'convert' part of imagemagick11:44
Sanneuserone, there's no such thing as a general file converter. It depends on the type of files, each one may be different (and in case of MS files, they certainly are).11:44
axs221I'm having trouble with my mouse cursor, whenever I hover my cursor over some objects it will disappear. These are always clickable objects, although the pointer cursor does work sometimes on other things. Eg hovering over flash or over the Customize Toolbar icons in Firefox. Any suggestions?11:44
paddedwallanyone got ubuntu installed on an ASRock 939 dual sata2 motherboard?11:44
faki3View Publisher 2002 Files Without Publisher http://www.microsoft.com/office/previous/xp/columns/column16.asp11:45
useroneeobanb: file conversion just seems to me a basic need for a computer user, or maybe things have changed!11:45
kb1ibtCainus: does it show DISABLED after it or is the module loaded?11:45
eobanbaxs221, as far as i know, flash files can opt to make the cursor disappear ('it's a feature, not a bug')11:45
Sannepaddedwall, I'm planning to buy one, and I researched the forums. I think there were people who got it working fine, sec.11:45
paddedwalli'm not having any luck at all11:45
eobanbuserone, i'm afraid that in this case you're going to have to ask for the file again in a different format11:45
dagrump_boricua: try #xgk-ubuntu :) if any 1 is awake11:46
bimberiuserone: yes it is, it just appears that handling the Microsoft Publisher format is not something that someone has written for linux11:46
Cainuskblibt: no mention of disabled... though I do seem to have two multimedia audio controllers11:46
eobanbdafart, you mean #ubuntu-xgl11:46
paddedwalli tried Drake, but it hangs at "Loading hardware drivers..."11:46
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eobanber, dagrump_11:46
axs221eobanb: what about the firefox buttons? it happens other places in the window manager too11:46
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paddedwallThen, I tried 5.10, and it won't even finish the install11:46
useronewe use file converters in CAD all the time..maybe thats a specialist industry?11:46
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eigenlambdahow to set up new latex .sty?11:46
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eigenlambdai need to use gb4e11:46
penguin42userone: What file formats?11:47
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eobanbpenguin42, he's trying to open an MS Publisher file11:47
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Sannepaddedwall, that doesn't sound good... maybe I should reconsider. Did you try the alternate dapper install cd? Might give better results.11:47
MilkteaWhere is Firefox normally installed to?11:47
penguin42eobanb: Ah.....11:47
eobanbMilktea, uh, /usr/bin/ ?11:47
paddedwallthe "alternate" cd?11:47
stefgaxs221: did you install any themes from a third-paty site like art.gnome.org or gnomelook ?11:47
useronebimberi: thanks...I suspected that..but anybody have any ideas for a 'quick and dirty' solution? I just need to view the file11:47
Milkteaokay thanks11:47
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eigenlambdane1 know how use tex .sty downloaded from web?11:47
eigenlambdais there ctan command anywhere?11:48
paddedwalli feel like I'm back in the 80's11:48
dagrump_eobband: oldfart yeah so what11:48
axs221stefg: nope, the only theme i've installed so far on this machine was on KDE, i'm using Gnome right now with the default cursor11:48
Sannepaddedwall (please type my name so I get notified when you reply). The cd with the text installer, called alternate, not the live cd.11:48
eigenlambdayou were alive in 80s?11:48
bimberiuserone: apart from getting someone who has publisher to save it in another format, no sorry :/11:48
axs221stefg: the other cursors do the same thing11:48
useronepenguin42: MS Publisher file format11:48
kb1ibtCainus: not sure exactly then but maybe it is being sent to the wrong controller, is one built-in the MoBo and the other an expansion card?11:48
stefghmm.. thought it could ahve been a gtk-engine problem, but that is unlikely with the defult theme11:49
paddedwallsanne nope, but I don't think it'll matter. The live cd booted to it's desktop (note that it succeeded in "loading hardware drivers to get to the desktop), but after installing, it hung up11:49
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ompaulhmm11:50
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Cainuskblibt: I'm thinking you might be right... is there a way to see what apps are using sound?  xmms is telling me some other app is using it now...11:50
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eigenlambdaya chanserv goes crayz soometimes11:50
eobanbpaddedwall, perhaps try the 6.06 alternate disc?11:50
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Sannepaddedwall, I would try it, before giving up on it, but I'm also not sure if it helps.11:51
stefgWasn't there a distinction between hardware- and software-cursors in the xorg-conf? Never touched that but could be a hint11:51
kb1ibtCainus: sorry that is something that i don't have a clue on11:51
kimowhy is mplayer video bad when using XV, but ok, with X11 ?11:51
snoopsmwe hmm well at the moment i just switched them.. so middle click(originally sending key 2) sends key 6, and side scroll left(originally key 6) sends key 211:51
Cainuskblibt: k thanks... I think I might be close... I just don't want to reboot to free that up :)11:51
Bjoern-ErikIs it possible to use SHA-1 for the password-hashes instead of MD5?11:52
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eobanbkimo, 'XV'?11:52
penguin42kimo: Typically a bug in the Xv part of your video cards driver11:52
paddedwallsanne i'm kinda bored with downloading distros, but I guess i'll give this a try (i thought this kind of crap was solved years ago with Linux)11:52
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Cainusanyone know how to find what app is using sound so I can kill it?11:52
kimohmm ... it's i91511:52
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eobanbpaddedwall, i'll ask again, have you tried the alternate install disc?11:52
penguin42Cainus: lsof /dev/audio or /dev/dsp  sometimes does it11:52
skavengei've got a question, at random times while X is running all my videos regardless of format all wash out .. a restart of X fixes it but its rather annoying, im using totem with the gstreamer backend, used xine as well and it does the same thing .. anyone know how to fix this or at least reset without restarting X?11:53
useronewhat about netpbm for file conversion?11:53
useronelet me try...11:53
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paddedwalleobanb I'll say it again, the install went fine - it hangs when I try to boot from the hd11:53
Sannepaddedwall, if and when linux drivers are available depends largely on the cooperation of hardware vendors, it will be never 'solved' as long as there's new hardware.11:53
penguin42userone: It will do image files to and from pbm format11:53
eobanbpaddedwall, so both the desktop and the alternate discs produced the same result?11:53
riochHi all, I installed the nvidia drivers but it wouldnt pick up my laptop display correctly. Any suggestions on how to correct it?11:53
Cainuspenguin42: thanks...that worked :)11:53
kb1ibtwhat is the easiest way to get cairo 1.2.0 running on my dapper since it isn't in a repository yet11:54
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kimoskavenge: maybe choose a different output driver (X11/shm) works ok here11:54
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mwesnoops: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're trying to acheive11:54
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Jack_Sparrowpaddedwall:  Are you dual booting11:54
paddedwallsanne that's a cop-out - theis very same motherboard allows me to install Windows 2000 without any problems - that OS is 5 years older than the motherboard - Linux should be able to do the same thing11:54
skavengekimo; hm havent looked into that ill check it out11:54
eternaljoyim using xchat 2.6.4. How do I ignore a person using this xchat version?11:54
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paddedwalljack_sparrow nope - brand new 200gb hard drive with nothing but linux on it11:54
eternaljoyim using xchat 2.6.4. but in older versions I could right click on nicks and chose ignore! How do I ignore a person using this xchat version?11:55
eobanbpaddedwall, i'll ask AGAIN, did the desktop and the alternate discs produce the same result?11:55
skavengeeternaljoy: try  /ignore nick11:55
eternaljoyskavenge: doesnt work11:55
skavengehm wierd11:55
eternaljoyskavenge: why doesnt right click work as in older xchat versions?11:55
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skavengei couldnt say, i dont use xchat .. i figured /ignore was a pretty standard command though, obviously not11:56
mweeternaljoy: /ignore buthead wors here11:56
Sannepaddedwall, hardware vendors write drivers for windows. They mostly don't do that for Linux. People have to program them in their free time, sometimes playing hide and seek with the hardware vendors when trying to guess the specifications some vendors won't release. It's a bit unfair to compare Linux and Windows in this regard.11:56
paddedwalleobanb freakin no dude - I'm downloading it now, but an alternate install will install the same freakin thing, right?11:56
Jack_Sparrowpadded, is it sata?11:56
paddedwalljust without the retty graphic front end11:56
paddedwallyes11:56
penguin42Sanne: Unfortunately from a user view that doesn't help11:57
eobanbpaddedwall, it could have something to do with an error in the install process which could be specific to the desktop CD, so PLEASE, instead of trolling, just try the other CD...don't really know what else you expect us to do11:57
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Gullstad!traceroute11:57
ubotuI know nothing about traceroute11:57
Sannepenguin42, you're right, but it helps understanding why things are the way they are, and maybe stop demanding unreasonable things.11:57
paddedwalljack_sparrow, it's an Asrock 939 dual sata2 and I'm using the onboard sound and NIC, a couple of sata drives, but no raid11:57
roostishawif i've got some c source code, how do i compile it? gcc -o endprogram source.c ?11:57
GullstadWhats the bash command for traceroute?11:57
useronepenguin24: I just installed netpbm and a2ps (yes, I'm getting desperate!)..but how do I get them to work using terminal..11:57
skavengeSanne: i agree11:58
askyleXwhat's exactly the diff between alternate and desktop ?11:58
kimoCairo 1.2 is out :) hurraaayy , since i live in cairo, gotta get this one fast :)11:58
Jack_Sparrowpaddedwall: do you have a cmos/bios option to treat those sata as ide?11:58
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eobanbaskyle, the desktop boots a liveCD and has a graphical installer.11:58
skavengetoo many are asking to be spoonfed for free not realizing what windows costs vs linux11:58
kb1ibtkimo: i was asking about that earlier11:58
kb1ibtkimo: i need it for WebKit11:58
stefg!download11:58
penguin42userone: They aren't going to let you read an MS Publisher file11:58
ubotuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:58
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paddedwalljack_sparrow - don't know11:59
askyleXeobanb: i noticed that while i failed dismally to install dapper on my gf's box -- what does the alternate do?11:59
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eobanbaskyle, the alternate uses the legacy debian installer11:59
GullstadWhats the bash command for traceroute?11:59
penguin42askyleX: Where did it break?11:59
useronepenguin42: ok...what if I could convert the format into something I can read..any ideas?11:59
Sanneskavenge, exactly11:59
eobanbGullstad, bash has no inbuilt traceroute, you'll have to install traceroute11:59
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kb1ibtGullstad: u probably don't have it installed11:59
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kimoGullstad: try tracepath12:00
eobanb!info traceroute12:00
ubotutraceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB12:00
penguin42userone: Linux won't be able to do that convert; if you can convert it into an MS Word/Powerpoint file then you can edit it in Open Office, if you can expor tit as PDF you can display it in various packages12:00
eobanb^-- there you go, Gullstad12:00
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Jack_Sparrowpaddedwall:  My bios has two options for the sata, I would vheck the next time you reboot.12:00
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