[12:00] <earHertz> dli: I the future, hiw do I figure that out for myself?
[12:00] <kingruedi> the script failed for me to start :/
[12:01] <mjr> `underOATH, the mobility radeons that are supported are supported through the same drivers as the desktop variants; what's your model?
[12:01] <Lars_G> alex_: If it's a JAR you don't need to "install" it. if it's a program from the commandline try to run: "java -jar <filename.jar>"
[12:01] <`underOATH> mjr: ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 IGP
[12:01] <Lars_G> alex_: You can also ask more in ##java but you'll possibly be treated like dirt, so be ready for it.
[12:01] <gdb> A jar file should come with a script to provide the correct arguments to the interpreter, to be honest.  But if there isn't one, then what Lars_G suggested should work.
[12:02] <finalbeta> how do I stop X? need to go to a shell, reload a driver, and then start x
[12:02] <nubsauce> is there a way i can manually add a screen resolution if i know both my monitor and gpu support it?
[12:02] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: lame is used to create compressed autio files. mp3 is one of its uses.
[12:02] <Lars_G> gdb: That's correct. specially if it depends on included jars in it's classpath but bleh
[12:02] <andi5> earHertz: in case you really want to compile a kernel (i guess you will not start developing with libncurses ;-)), try kernel-package (it suggests libncurses5-dev)
[12:02] <dibblego> gdb, it does - you put a Main-Class manifest entry, then -jar is implied
[12:02] <liquiem> finalbeta, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[12:02] <Lars_G> "should" is not always "will"
[12:02] <finalbeta> thnx
[12:02] <dli> earHertz, packages.ubuntu.com , or apt-cache , apt-file
[12:02] <dibblego> -jar ignores the classpath (java.class.path system property)
[12:02] <mjr> `underOATH, that should work pretty much out of the box afaik
[12:02] <gdb> finalbeta: ALT-F1 to get to a text login, then run $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop -- do your work, and then $ sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[12:02] <alex_> but there comes the same window
[12:02] <`underOATH> Lars_G: thats why i really like cool channels like this where everyone is cool and nice to eachother so we all get the best out of the software. ubuntu has a really nice community of users
[12:02] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: lame + liblame0 should be enough
[12:02] <Lars_G> dibblego: Doh true I forgot classpath is ignored with -jar
[12:02] <fiveiron> anyone have a working logitech quickcam express?
[12:02] <earHertz> andi5: I'm trying rto compile the ipodlinux sources, actually ;)
[12:03] <fiveiron> i can't seem to get the qc-usb driver working
[12:03] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Never try to join #OpenBSD then, you'll regret it.
[12:03] <mjr> `underOATH, though I'm not completely sure if the Ubuntu X.org/kernel release support the IGP aspect of it (support exists, I'm just not sure in which versions)
[12:03] <eggo> hey can someone point me to a step by step for compiling a kernel?  i keep getting errors and all i have done is download the source for my current kernel and use my existing config .... but still get errors :(
[12:03] <gdb> `underOATH: I think a lot of that has to do with people being attracted to the philosophy behind the name of the distribution.  I have to say that compared to other Linux channels, this one is by far the friendliest.
[12:03] <Lars_G> dibblego: But there are ways, in which java code is run via a script without -jar and with a complex classpath
[12:03] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: if you use gstreamer there is a lame plugin for it as well.
[12:03] <Lars_G> dibblego: But you should know that, don't you?
[12:03] <dibblego> Lars_G, sure
[12:03] <alex_> blue j wants to know to which directory it have to install
[12:03] <Lars_G> Jowi: That's lame
[12:03] <liquiem> eggo, what errors?
[12:03] <`underOATH> yeah, like #linux on gamesurge. everyone is mean
[12:03] <mjr> `underOATH, anyway, I have a non-IGP mobility 9000 and it works just dandy
[12:03] <Jowi> Lars_G: yes it is :)
[12:04] <dibblego> Lars_G, you can also enter a classpath executed with -jar by using a Class-Path manifest entry
[12:04] <alexicon> kubuntu is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:04] <earHertz> dli: thansk
[12:04] <eggo> liquiem : "error in source file"
[12:04] <gdb> `underOATH: I don't get that.  People that want Linux to "take over the world" doing everything they can to ensure that no one wants to run it. :-P
[12:04] <foxiness> Jowi, thanks for your info it help man :)
[12:04] <nivanson> Hi, I am having some trouble with my ATI driver. No matter how I configure X (I tried all tutorials) I still end up getting Mesa according to fglrxinfo. Did anyone have this problem? (using latest dapper)
[12:04] <`underOATH> mjr: did you have to install the drivers from the ati website
[12:04] <Lars_G> dibblego: Wich is how I'd preffer to do it myself.
[12:04] <dibblego> Lars_G, I prefer to write my own class loader - it is much cleaner
[12:04] <eggo> when in drivers/usb/net/zd1211/zdusb.c
[12:04] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Jowi: do u know what repo has the lame plugins?
[12:04] <Jowi> foxiness: no probs. glad i could help
[12:04] <alex_> can anybody help me
[12:04] <liquiem> eggo, after what command? vanilla source or apt-based sources?
[12:04] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Jowi: or lame libs
[12:04] <mjr> `underOATH, no, I've not tried the proprietary drivers. The free DRI supports 3d acceleration on these chipsets.
[12:04] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: which version of ubuntu are you using=
[12:04] <gdb> VieLGuS-KuTaS: I'd guess that Multiverse does, if not Universe.
[12:05] <kingruedi> when i start automatix the script starts and shuts down without any message
[12:05] <eggo> well i got the source via apt-get
[12:05] <Cornellius> alex+: Don't ask, just tell your problem.
[12:05] <Lars_G> dibblego: Though too many programmers preffer to just drop the main jar on the classpath in a script and call the main class directly. which to me is "dirty"
[12:05] <Jowi> !info liblame0
[12:05] <ubotu> liblame0: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 147 kB, installed size 376 kB
[12:05] <gdb> kingruedi: please use easyubuntu instead. ;-)
[12:05] <eobanb> kingruedi, dont use automatix
[12:05] <gdb> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[12:05] <dibblego> Lars_G, atrocities are rife :)
[12:05] <liquiem> !info firefox
[12:05] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 7725 kB, installed size 22888 kB
[12:05] <Lars_G> dibblego: I used to, too, but I've ran away from J2SE and J2EE, and in J2ME you can't define classloaders :)
[12:05] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Jowi: i have kubuntu 6.06 x64
[12:05] <Jowi> !info gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
[12:05] <`underOATH> mjr: i'm going on vacation tomorrow and i usually play games on my desktop here on windows but i'd like to get a game or 2 running on my laptop with ubuntu for vacation. last time i got 4 fps in game instead of the 299 like i got on windows
[12:05] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse: GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set (Multiverse Variant). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.3-2 (dapper), package size 33 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:05] <kingruedi> eobanb: why?
[12:06] <Lars_G> `underOATH: ATI card?
[12:06] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: see what ubotu spat out
[12:06] <`underOATH> yes Lars_G
[12:06] <fiveiron> !quickcam
[12:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about quickcam
[12:06] <alex_> in which directory i have to install blue j
[12:06] <alex_> ?
[12:06] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> Jowi: i have all the repos enabled that come default , none has them
[12:06] <Cornellius> kingruedi: Automatix uses ForceYes options that can be dangerous for your system.
[12:06] <kingruedi> oh
[12:06] <Jowi> VieLGuS-KuTaS: yeah, you need universe and multiverse repos
[12:06] <gdb> alex_: I think the software is leaving that up to you. ;-) I prefer to install large software installations in /opt, myself.
[12:06] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Get used to it, wathever you do you'll get poor performance, but I'm sure you're using XOrg's drivers so there IS a lot of performance to be gained by switching to the binary-only ATI drivers.
[12:06] <kingruedi> anyway it looks pretty bad
[12:06] <Jowi> !tell VieLGuS-KuTaS about universe
[12:06] <kingruedi> i'll try easyubuntu
[12:07] <Cornellius> Blue J ?
[12:07] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Saddly I have to go now. Aaaaand, I haven't touched an ATI not I will with a pole right now. so I leave you to your luck, I'm sure someone here or in the forums should be able o help with that
[12:07] <meshyf> Does anybody have a link to the latest xpad drivers?
[12:07] <gdb> kingruedi: I don't think you'll be disappointed.  They have a lot of good information on that site and EasyUbuntu makes installing multimedia, java, etc, a real snap.
[12:07] <Dial_tone> Anyone use something other than totem as default video/dvd player?
[12:07] <Jowi> !tell VieLGuS-KuTaS about repos
[12:07] <`underOATH> alright i'll just try the drivers from the website and see how that works for me
[12:07] <lophyte> Dial_tone: I use mplayer
[12:07] <nivanson> Dial_tone: Mplayer
[12:07] <Lars_G> dibblego: I know where I know you now, we've met in ##java haven't we?
[12:07] <goonies> someone plz help me, this is driving me nuts, im trying to use compiz and xgl, but everytime i run gnome-window-decorator it restarts x, i previously made it run b4 without a problem, now all the sudden it just keeps restarting my x when i try it
[12:08] <gdb> Call me crazy, I actually like totem.
[12:08] <lophyte> gdb: you're crazy! :P
[12:08] <eobanb> goonies, that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl
[12:08] <gdb> lophyte: hehehe
[12:08] <Dial_tone> my volume is too for for some reason
[12:08] <andi5> can you plug in a keyboard into a easyubuntu installation? or does it have to be voice controlled, spoken out in easy words.... apps: webbrowser showing your portal all the time?
[12:08] <kcbanner> Hi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?
[12:08] <Lars_G> `underOATH: Advice. this can be a CONSUMING process. before you begin, make a backup of your XOrg config file, so if you become too flustered you can return it to normal to be able to enter X11 and browse for help files
[12:08] <kingruedi> ok, i think i don't need it anyway. I basicly done everything. Except for DMA. But I thougt newer kernels activate dma automatically
[12:08] <gdb> andi5: eh?
[12:08] <Lars_G> gdb: Crazy
[12:09] <looksaus> I just tried to burn the ppc dapper iso under dapper
[12:09] <gdb> lol
[12:09] <looksaus> it complains about being 702 Mb , too big to fit onto a 700 Mb CD
[12:09] <mjr> `underOATH, probably 3d is not properly initialized in that case with the X.org drivers, does glxinfo|grep -i direct say what about rendering?
[12:09] <Lars_G> gdb: Personally I use xmms for radio streams, mplayer and xine for videos, and AmaroK for my music collection
[12:09] <goonies> =\
[12:09] <userundefine> looksaus, enable overburn.   702 is managable
[12:10] <`underOATH> "aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.sp.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:10] <looksaus> userundefine, where do I do that?
[12:10] <kcbanner> Hi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?
[12:10] <andrew_> could someone point to some info on setting up wine in (k)ubuntu s.t. installed applications are available for all users?  Google isn't very helpful for me.
[12:10] <`underOATH> andrew_: #wine
[12:10] <userundefine> looksaus, I'm not sure, I didn't get your backstory.  what program are you using?
[12:10] <liquiem> Lars_G, bmpx for audio, mplayer for video :)
[12:10] <`underOATH> nvm
[12:10] <`underOATH> i forgot the wine channel
[12:10] <gdb> Lars_G: Right, and I can absolutely see the desire for that, using a more "tuned for it" application for each job.  I prefer to have a single application that does what I want.  And all I do is listen to music and watch DVDs and movie files.  For streaming Internet raido, I just use Firefox. ;-)
[12:10] <andrew_> `underOATH: ok, thanks.  nothing ubuntu specific, then.
[12:10] <foxiness> andrew_, wine on wiki.ubuntu.com
[12:10] <Lars_G> liquiem: Have you tested xmms2? one of these days, i ought to
[12:10] <looksaus> userundefine, the builtin dapper cd writer
[12:10] <andi5> liquiem: bmpx self-compiled?
[12:11] <mjr> `underOATH, well, that's fglrx stuff then, dunno about that
[12:11] <looksaus> nautilus-cd-burner
[12:11] <Cornellius> Lars_G: XMMS2 ?
[12:11] <userundefine> looksaus, nautilus or gnomebaker?
[12:11] <gdb> Lars_G: I did really like xmms back when I was using it, though.  Maybe I'll install it again.
[12:11] <`underOATH> mjr: i guess i have to find that file and CD into that directory first
[12:11] <userundefine> looksaus, ah
[12:11] <Cornellius> liquiem: I like Rhythmbox
[12:11] <Lars_G> gdb: The only place I do that in is IM, I can't stand one-client-per-protocol, so I use Kopete or similarily multiprotocol clients
[12:11] <liquiem> Lars_G, nope, just bmpx
[12:11] <Lars_G> Cornellius: Early alpha next version of xmms
[12:11] <lophyte> I use rhythmbox for music, mplayer for video
[12:11] <Lars_G> Cornellius: Completely rewriten, afaik
[12:11] <liquiem> andi5, yes, on gentoo compiled and on ubuntu the repo
[12:11] <Cornellius> liquiem: Beep Media Player ?
[12:11] <alex_> blue j cant write his files on the directory opt
[12:11] <gdb> Aye, gaim here.
[12:11] <alex_> can i use chmod?
[12:12] <andi5> gdb: aye, any idea how long it will take to get gaim 2.0 out? *waiting desparately* ;-)
[12:12] <userundefine> looksaus, good question, I greatly doubt it supports it.  Gnomebaker probably does, let me see...
[12:12] <liquiem> Cornellius, yep, a fork of it
[12:12] <Lars_G> gdb: Aaaand, I've ripped most of my music, I have nearly 300Gb of music. So using a player for it, would be like commiting suicide.
[12:12] <gdb> andi5:  lol no idea, I just use what came with Ubuntu. ;-)
[12:12] <looksaus> userundefine, it's not that I'm unfamiliar with ubuntu
[12:12] <peibol> hey
[12:12] <gdb> andi5: for AIM, google talk, MSN, and Yahoo!
[12:12] <Lars_G> gdb: I need a tool that lets me organize, search and maintain my collection, like amarok, rythmbox or juk
[12:12] <peibol> i need help with "evolution"
[12:12] <looksaus> I can really find it out myself
[12:12] <peibol> can someone helps me?
[12:13] <andi5> peibol: what is up?
[12:13] <dibblego> Lars_G, can xmms play a m4a file?
[12:13] <looksaus> but it's nice to see this channel is still so very helpful
[12:13] <Lars_G> gdb: But, I hate stuff that "makes" me add stuff to my collection for a single listen.
[12:13] <peibol> sorry by my english(im spanish)
[12:13] <goonies> how can there not be one reference to gnome-window-decorator on the forums
[12:13] <Lars_G> dibblego: It depends on the installed files. But basically yes it can
[12:13] <Lars_G> peibol: There's afaik an #ubuntu-es
[12:13] <dibblego> Lars_G, does that mean I need a plugin?
[12:13] <liquiem> goonies, try g-w-d :) or tell us your problem
[12:13] <Cornellius> liquiem: Differences between BMP and BMPX are... ?
[12:13] <alex_> how to set the permission for the directory /opt
[12:13] <gdb> Lars_G: Well, I don't have 300GB of music, but I have ripped all my stuff in iTunes.  I use that to play music on my PC and just double click files on my server/workstation thing here.  I'd like an iTunes-like application to play that on Linux but I'm not sure if it will "prepare" the music folder in a way that will break iTunes.
[12:13] <alex_> ??
[12:13] <peibol> when i try to insert an event in evolution it says me "yoy cant write"
[12:14] <Lars_G> dibblego: 
[12:14] <Jowi> dibblego: m4a = .mp4
[12:14] <Lars_G> dibblego: Yup
[12:14] <peibol> i know the existence of this channel but they are talking about phylosophy xD
[12:14] <dibblego> Lars_G ?
[12:14] <gumpish> anyone know anything about yaboot? (The PPC bootloader)
[12:14] <liquiem> Cornellius, gstreamer-based, all fancy stuff like dbus, libnotify and so on
[12:14] <goonies> liquiem, im trying to use compiz and xgl, but everytime i run gnome-window-decorator it restarts x, i previously made it run b4 without a problem, now all the sudden it just keeps restarting my x when i try it
[12:14] <dibblego> which plugin?
[12:14] <gdb> Yes, I hate that "add to library just to hear once" thing, too.  If it's in the library, it's because I want to hear it again.  If I'm just clicking a file to play, it means I dunno if I wanna hear it again. ;-)
[12:14] <Cornellius> liquiem: Ooohh
[12:14] <liquiem> Cornellius, http://bmpx.beep-media-player.org/site/BMPx_Homepage
[12:14] <looksaus> userundefine, I might have bumped into somewhat of a bug here though
[12:14] <userundefine> looksaus, Yeah, gnomebaker is pretty weak, I don't see it there.  You can do it from CLI apparently but I haven't done it before.
[12:14] <Jowi> dibblego: yes, you needa plugin. what application are you using? xmms-mp4 for xmms, bmp-mp4 for bmp
[12:14] <alex_> how to set the permission for the directory /opt
[12:14] <goonies> i cant even get an error msg
[12:15] <andi5> peibol: are you trying to create a birthday?
[12:15] <dibblego> Jowi, ok thanks
[12:15] <Lars_G> dibblego: xmms-mp4
[12:15] <goonies> since it just restarts x
[12:15] <Cornellius> liquiem: Thanks
[12:15] <dibblego> which repository is that available from?
[12:15] <peibol> i have modified permisions on tree directory and it says the same :S
[12:15] <Jowi> !info xmms-mp4
[12:15] <ubotu> xmms-mp4: a mp4/aac audio player for xmms. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:15] <gdb> dibblego: easyubuntu ;-)
[12:15] <Lars_G> dibblego: Wich will possibly pull along the libfaad library, wich is not "free" so you'll probably have to enable universe
[12:15] <peibol> no... i want to insert my exams in the calendar
[12:15] <Lars_G> multiverse
[12:15] <liquiem> goonies, start g-w-d after compiz --replace gconf &. if that's not the problem, be sure you use compiz-gnome (dont recall the package name exactly)
[12:15] <gdb> dibblego: it will be either in universe or multiverse, probably multiverse
[12:16] <alex_> how to set the permission for the directory /opt
[12:16] <alex_> ?
[12:16] <Cornellius> !compiz
[12:16] <Cornellius> !xgl
[12:16] <goonies> ill try that
[12:16] <andi5> peibol: i just created an event, it is saved in ~/.evolution/calendar/local/system ....can you open and save that file?
[12:17] <alex_> plz help
[12:17] <dibblego> strange, I can't find it
[12:17] <gdb> alex_: What do you mean?
[12:17] <andi5> peibol: sorry, file name is calendar.ics
[12:17] <liquiem> dribble, i want flash 9, be more up-to-date ;)
[12:17] <mwe> Alethes: sudo chmod
[12:17] <kaning> anyone knows if openoffice has been updated in Dapper
[12:17] <gdb> alex_: The permissions there should be correct.  Are you trying to install something there as a non-root user?
[12:17] <mwe> alex_: ^^
[12:17] <peibol> in private.. my english is the wost xD
[12:17] <userundefine> kaning,  updated to what
[12:17] <dibblego> kaning, it is version 2.0.2
[12:17] <mwe> alex_:  sudo chmod
[12:17] <dribble> liquiem, see, that's what happens when linux is left behind..i dind't even know there WAS a flash nine ;)
[12:17] <Dial_tone> man, my cd/dvd volume is low but system sounds are way too loud
[12:18] <kaning> i know 2.0.3 has been released
[12:18] <alex_> sudo chmod <directory>
[12:18] <alex_> ?
[12:18] <kaning> check on their website
[12:18] <gdb> kaning: It's 2.0.2. I don't know what version you're looking for, but that's what's in Dapper.
[12:18] <algor> !wpa
[12:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:18] <alex_> and number? 777?
[12:18] <andi5> peibol: check the file i wrote ... do you have that?
[12:18] <hobx> question: I have two soundcards, and their card numbers in alsa switch randomly on reboot.
[12:18] <peibol> yes
[12:18] <hobx> Solution?
[12:18] <liquiem> dribble, thats the biggest story for now for linux and flash. win/mac got v9, linux still v7
[12:18] <gdb> alex_: You do not want mode 777 on /opt
[12:19] <andi5> try your text editor on it... can you edit it?
[12:19] <peibol> i have it and i have "all users" permision
[12:19] <eobanb> you dont want 777 on anything
[12:19] <kaning> alright thanks gdb
[12:19] <gdb> kaning: Sure thing.
[12:19] <alex_> which mode than
[12:19] <alex_> ?
[12:19] <revilot> whats the best program for viewing/managing photos including raw format
[12:19] <kcbanner> Hi, I logged on to another computer on my network with xdmcp...my wireless cut out so I got disconnected. When I try to reconnect it says "User already logged on" and when I log it all the programs I had open are closed, and I think that my old session is still running somwhere. How do I reconnect to it?
[12:19] <gdb> alex_: You should have no reason to change the permissions on /opt from the default that's installed with the system.
[12:19] <ShadowLurker> Matrikz
[12:19] <gdb> alex_: So owner root, group root, permission 755.
[12:19] <ShadowLurker> u here?
[12:19] <andi5> peibol: did you change anything?
[12:20] <userundefine> revilot, I like F-Spot, but you can use Picasa if you are familiar with it.  It has a Linux version now
[12:20] <ShadowLurker> Matrikz: Are you there???
[12:20] <peibol> yes
[12:20] <peibol> i can
[12:20] <revilot> userundefine: how do you view pics at 1:1
[12:20] <peibol> i can read/write the file
[12:20] <alex_> sudo chmod 775 <directory>    -is that correct
[12:20] <alex_> ?
[12:20] <userundefine> revilot, 1:1 ?  Don't understand
[12:21] <ShadowLurker> i have a question
[12:21] <revilot> userundefine: most viewer programs allow you to view the picture in actual pixels
[12:21] <ShadowLurker> can someone help?
[12:21] <revilot> userundefine: full size
[12:21] <ShadowLurker> i want to listen to .mp3 files
[12:21] <ShadowLurker> and i found his link: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/codecs/
[12:21] <revilot> userundefine: i can get f-spot to do that
[12:21] <ShadowLurker> which one shoudl i download?
[12:21] <lophyte> !mp3
[12:21] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:21] <liquiem> shadow`, yes, write down i use google on paper sheets and try asking your question directly
[12:21] <andi5> peibol: but not from evolution, right? i mean: when did you install ubuntu? long ago? maybe you want to (*warning*) delete your ~/.evolution and try again (*warning*)... this will delete your email of course :)
[12:22] <lophyte> ShadowLurker: take a look at those links that ubotu spat out
[12:22] <andi5> peibol: try to avoid this "solution"
[12:22] <stefg> !restricted >shadowlurker
[12:22] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[12:22] <revilot> userundefine: i can zoom in but it doesnt tell me at what percentage its showing me the pic in
[12:22] <peibol> i do this 3 "veces"
[12:22] <peibol> but never try the calendar... im going to try :)
[12:22] <pvd> hmm, I Messed up my grub configuration.  I get a grub error 15. I tried to load the old ubuntu breezy cd and change up the partitions and set the root partition again, but it keeps saying my target file system is not clean so it wont install. I am using an other computer right now. But I have the other computer that is messed up right next to me.
[12:22] <kcbanner> HOW do I disconnect a connected user!
[12:22] <Mugginns> question: i seem to have done something to lose my ability to surf computers in my windows workgroup. I used to be able to do it fine. what should i check ?
[12:22] <`underOATH> "Generating package: Ubuntu/6.06 ./packages/Ubuntu/ati-packager.sh: line 55: dpkg-architecture: command not found Error: unsupported architexture: Removing temporary directory: fglrx-install"
[12:22] <userundefine> revilot, good question, I never noticed that.  That's something that should definitely be included
[12:23] <myte> whats the best player for playing regular dvd's (encrypted) ... and do i need to install something extra to handle the decryption ??
[12:23] <goonies> no luck
[12:23] <andi5> peibol: sorry, what is "veces"?
[12:23] <kingruedi> i've installed flashplugin-nonfree. Now I can hear the sounds of the clips at video.google.com. But I can't see them (or the controls). The same with other flash plugins
[12:23] <kcbanner> HOW do I disconnect a connected user!
[12:23] <peibol> i cant
[12:23] <Seveas> kcbanner, kill his terminal
[12:23] <pvd> myte, I like mplayer and you download libdvdcss3 or 2 for encryption
[12:23] <revilot> userundefine: have you tried gphoto2?
[12:23] <liquiem> pvd, what? you changed the partitions? or what exactly do you changed?
[12:24] <myte> can i install all that with apt-get ?
[12:24] <myte> or got to do it from source ?
[12:24] <kcbanner> Seveas, yes but how
[12:24] <dibblego> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=186792
[12:24] <peibol> i dont know the exactly word but "veces" is an spanish word that try to say..."ocasions"
[12:24] <userundefine> revilot, hadn't heard of it until now.
[12:24] <pvd> myte, you can do it with apt-get or synaptic
[12:24] <peibol> "trys"
[12:24] <Seveas> kcbanner, find his terminal with ps f -e and kill it with kill -9 pid_of_his_terminal
[12:25] <kcbanner> Seveas, thanks
[12:25] <revilot> userundefine: do you shoot in raw or jpg
[12:25] <kcbanner> Seveas, it was an xdmcp session...does that matter
[12:25] <peibol> andi5, i cant insert an event whit your "solution"
[12:25] <peibol> :s
[12:25] <andi5> peibol: so you say you cannot delete ~/.evolution? .... btw do you mean three times? ;-)
[12:25] <pvd> myte while your at it add the cipherphunk and seveas respositories to your sources.list
[12:25] <userundefine> revilot, tiff, space permitting
[12:25] <Seveas> then kill his session
[12:25] <peibol> eeer you dont understand me
[12:25] <userundefine> revilot, maybe this is old, but gphoto2 doesn't look that feature-full : http://www.gphoto.org/doc/manual/screenshots/gtkam/file.png
[12:26] <andi5> peibol: i am sorry about that :(
[12:26] <revilot> userundefine: ya i didnt think so either but hadnt tried it yet
[12:26] <revilot> userundefine: f-spot is ok minus a few things
[12:26] <userundefine> revilot, I agree, it could use some more features
[12:26] <tach00> hello, i need some help with the package manager
[12:26] <peibol> i were trying to delete files and "reinstall" to see if i can "only copy the folder and write on"
[12:26] <nivanson> Do anybody here have fglrx version 8.24.8 installed? The newest one (8.25.18) is broken with my r250 card. I need someone to send me the file: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from 8.24.8 (x86, dapper drake)
[12:27] <kcbanner> Seveas, I am killing the bash shell running on pts/0 but it does not go away when I kill it
[12:27] <andi5> the first time i started firefox windows invaded my system... ps showed *.exe's ;-)
[12:27] <peibol> i can restart normally ALL the services but calendars no
[12:27] <andi5> s/firefox/f-spot/
[12:27] <userundefine> revilot, there's one other I tried, I forget ....
[12:27] <tach00> i keep getting an error with the package kcemirror but i cant sem to remove it or fix it
[12:27] <peibol> it say to me "calendar is read only mode
[12:27] <peibol> :S
[12:28] <ShadowLurker> guyz, how do i get gstreamer plugins?
[12:28] <lophyte> ShadowLurker: system->administration->synaptic
[12:28] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[12:28] <liquiem> ShadowLurker, apt-cache search gstreamer-
[12:28] <revilot> ShadowLurker: download easy ubuntu
[12:28] <ShadowLurker> *tries*
[12:28] <userundefine> revilot, ah yes, I tried digikam but it had fewer features than f-spot and was kde-based
[12:29] <an0malist> My hard drive consists of 1 Primay partition, then one Extended partition which includes my swap.  how can I shrink down my primary a few gigs, to create another primary to install another OS?
[12:29] <revilot> userundefine: i really wish there was an open source raw editor, aside from uf-raw
[12:29] <ShadowLurker> thanks about Easy Ubuntu
[12:29] <ShadowLurker> i like that program
[12:29] <goonies> i i want to use xfce, do i have to install xubuntu
[12:29] <goonies> if*
[12:29] <mwe> an0malist: what file system is it?
[12:29] <Seveas> goonies, not per se
[12:30] <goonies> se?
[12:30] <an0malist> mwe: ext3
[12:30] <mwe> an0malist: gparted then
[12:30] <andi5> an0malist: others will tell you probably, but what about shrinking the extended partition if it is not full of logical partitions?
[12:30] <mwe> an0malist: or just parted
[12:30] <an0malist> mwe: I try that, but the resize option isn't available
[12:30] <goonies> i want to run it alongside gnome
[12:30] <moreati> an0malist: I believe gparted can resize partitions
[12:30] <mwe> an0malist: you can't if it's mounted
[12:30] <mwe> an0malist: you need to boot a live cd to do it
[12:30] <liquiem> moreati, not every fs-type
[12:30] <an0malist> hmm.. well its my main hard drive
[12:30] <goonies> Seveas, whats se stand for
[12:30] <an0malist> ahhh
[12:30] <nivanson> Do anybody here have fglrx version 8.24.8 installed? The newest one (8.25.18) is broken with my r250 card. I need someone to send me the file: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 from 8.24.8 (x86, dapper drake). Please PM me.
[12:31] <an0malist> duh
[12:31] <an0malist> Thanks guys
[12:31] <tach00> cant fix kcemirror error, even tried the few apt-get commands i know, can someone tell me how to fix  package error
[12:31] <an0malist> i'll run the live cd
[12:31] <an0malist> this room is the best
[12:31] <an0malist> :D
[12:31] <k3nobi> hi
[12:31] <Seveas> nivanson, you could try 8.26.something
[12:31] <k3nobi> i'm new to ubuntu how do I install firefox plugins like flash?
[12:31] <nivanson> Seveas: when did they get released? i can only find 25.
[12:32] <nivanson> k3nobi: read the manual at help.ubuntu.com >> community
[12:32] <Seveas> nivanson, few days ago by ati, they won't land in dapper officially but they are available from my repo (install ubuntu-fglrx-your_version)
[12:32] <dagrump_> hi all, i could use some help with recovery console, i broke x
[12:32] <^thehatsrule^> nivanson: afaik.. i thought the r2xx support was somewhat broken in 8.25/26
[12:33] <lophyte> I wish openoffice draw had some nice clipart
[12:33] <^thehatsrule^> cant remember which one exactly
[12:33] <userundefine> revilot, you may want to check out gimp-dcraw and gimp-ufraw packages.  apparently they allow for raw functioanlity in gimp
[12:33] <andi5> dagrump_: well, actually, this "recovery console" is at least 6 of them with a lot of power :)
[12:33] <nivanson> Seveas: May I have the adress to your rep? :) Thanks
[12:34] <Seveas> !seveas > nivanson
[12:34] <andi5> dagrump_: so maybe you booted into a single environment, i dont know.... what is up? :)
[12:34] <nivanson> Seveas: Thanks alot :)
[12:34] <gumpish> hmmm, my software updates seems to be stalling out at "setting up capplets-data". The "task bar" button is fading in and out...
[12:34] <lophyte> anyone know where one can get clipart for OOo draw?
[12:34] <gumpish> ah there it goes
[12:35] <userundefine> lophyte, try http://www.openclipart.org/
[12:35] <dagrump_> andi5: I need to edit xorg.conf & im not sure how to get from terminal
[12:35] <roostishaw> what does the extention .o mean?
[12:36] <userundefine> dagrump_, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:36] <eobanb> dagrump_, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:36] <andi5> userundefine: in console?
[12:36] <liquiem> andi5, terminal :)
[12:36] <userundefine> andi5, yes ^
[12:36] <dagrump_> thanks ill try it
[12:36] <eobanb> userundefine, clearly gedit is not going to work in a terminal, especially not if x is not running :)
[12:36] <liquiem> he doesnt say if he's in X or not
[12:36] <andi5> i thought console, not terminal....
[12:36] <tach00> can soeone please tell me how to fix a package error because i tried everything i know and stil get it every time i try to download somethng and istall it
[12:37] <andi5> he has broken X.... did not he? *wonder*
[12:37] <jrattner1> k
[12:37] <eobanb> tach00, well what is the error
[12:37] <userundefine> andi5, eobanb, I don't know, he said 'terminal', ie gui
[12:37] <liquiem> andi5, dont know :)
[12:37] <tach00> hang on ill paste it for you
[12:37] <roostishaw> anyone,  what does the extention .o mean?
[12:37] <eobanb> tach00, if it's long, use pastebin please.
[12:37] <andi5> userundefine: hehe.... you know what terminal means, i do too, but not everyone :)
[12:38] <tach00> what is pastebin? sorry new hre
[12:38] <userundefine> andi5, should've just said sudo vim ;)
[12:38] <eobanb> userundefine, if he said terminal, how would that indicate the gui
[12:39] <userundefine> eobanb, heh, nevermind
[12:39] <andi5> userundefine: i was just wondering what ubuntu suggests..... i have never liked vim.... s/never liked/always hated/g
[12:39] <liquiem> terminal implies X, console is just that, just ascii :)
[12:39] <andi5> ascii?
[12:39] <eobanb> terminal in no way implies X.
[12:39] <liquiem> textmode
[12:39] <andi5> eobanb: see screen, right? :)
[12:39] <userundefine> andi5, I think they suggest nano from CLI and gedit from gui.
[12:39] <gumpish> how about Terminal with a capital T?
[12:40] <tach00> what is pastebin and how do i use it
[12:40] <eobanb> !pastebin
[12:40] <bbrazil> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:40] <andi5> userundefine: thanks for clearing up
[12:40] <tach00> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:41] <dsas> could someone explain to me how to add http://people.ubuntu.com/~jdub/edgy/ to my sources.list? I know that I need to add another deb line, but how do I find out the section name?
[12:41] <eobanb> dsas, discuss edgy in #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <dsas> eobanb: It's not actually an edgy repository
[12:41] <andi5> dsas: see system->administration->package management, you can add manual deb lines there
[12:42] <cyphase> is the next version of ubuntu going to have avahi support in cups?
[12:42] <dsas> andi5: I still need to know the section name to do that.
[12:42] <andi5> dsas: sorry! i mean system->administration->software properties (do not know english name)
[12:42] <tach00> forgive me, what do i do, put your name in pastbin and send?
[12:42] <eobanb> tach00, you paste the link in here to the pastebin page you generated
[12:42] <pump> i need help with a pinnacle pctv stereo
[12:42] <kingruedi> argl! I deinstalled the flash plugin. Used easyubuntu to install it again. But still I can only hear but not see plugins in firefox
[12:43] <tach00> ok thank you, sorry to be a newbe but i really like ubuntu, if i can get it going lol
[12:43] <andi5> tach00: did you restart firefox?
[12:43] <eobanb> andi5, what does his problem have to do with firefox
[12:43] <andi5> kingruedi: did you restart firefox? sorry eobanb and tach00
[12:43] <kingruedi> yes
[12:44] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16887
[12:44] <tach00> like this
[12:44] <eobanb> tach00, yes
[12:44] <tach00> than you for putting up with me
[12:44] <ciaron> any know why i get an error "no screens found" when trying to load a xgl session?
[12:44] <tach00> im getting three
[12:44] <tach00> there
[12:45] <andi5> kingruedi: what do you mean by "hear plugins"? does the page "about:plugins" show flash?
[12:45] <dli> ciaron, /j #ubuntu-xgl
[12:45] <eobanb> ciaron, that would be a question for #ubuntu-xgl
[12:45] <ciaron> ah ok, ta
[12:45] <eobanb> tach00, what is it that you're trying to install
[12:46] <monomaniacpat> What icon themes change the firefox logo?
[12:46] <tach00> well i a just trying to updt my system and download some apps from repositories and i guess something was  wrongwith kcemirror, NOW it wont let me do anything
[12:46] <eobanb> monomaniacpat, a bunch of them?
[12:46] <lancer285> can anyone tell me how to get my USB keyboard to control grub? I am not able to make any seleciotns besides the default because Ican't move the cursor
[12:47] <kingruedi> andi5: i think i found the problem. I made mv .mozilla mozilla-bu and started ff again. Suddenly it worked
[12:47] <kingruedi> strange
[12:47] <monomaniacpat> I used to have a specific one and have forgotten which it was ...
[12:47] <monomaniacpat> You can see it hidden behind a mouse symbol on the humility theme
[12:47] <andi5> kingruedi: strange, indeed.... you can test your old profile again just as easy, of course :) .... but never change a running system ;-)
[12:47] <PacketScan> This is weird i can not find a background image i like for my ubuntu desktop than the plain brown it came with.
[12:48] <eobanb> PacketScan, http://gnome-look.org
[12:48] <PacketScan> All my windows are opaque tho so it's trippy.
[12:48] <saxin> how can I upgrade linux-image-386 and linux-restricted-modules-386? I keep getting "The following packages have been kept back"
[12:48] <PacketScan> eobanb, ah good look.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> saxin: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:48] <andi5> actually, i do not know about you... but i stick with plain desktop colors,.... typically a light gray (bit darker than the gnome panels)
[12:48] <lancer285> PacketScan: how do you get your windeows transparet?
[12:49] <monomaniacpat> eobanb: it's the blue and white globe centred on africa
[12:49] <saxin> gnomefreak, thanks, I will give it a try
[12:49] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:49] <lancer285> can anyone tell me how to make my usb keyboard work with grub?
[12:49] <kingruedi> andi5: it is strange. Because the same profile with flash support worked fine until i reinstalled ubuntu
[12:49] <PacketScan> lancer285, most of the apps i'm using support it.
[12:49] <eobanb> tach00, what does apt-get update report
[12:49] <PacketScan> xchat, gnome terminal , etc.
[12:49] <andi5> lancer285: stupid question: can you enter the bios with your usb keyboard?
[12:49] <lancer285> yes,
[12:49] <lancer285> andi5: yes
[12:50] <lancer285> PacketScan: so it's not a theme or anything?
[12:50] <PacketScan> nar
[12:51] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16888
[12:51] <lancer285> andi5: I can press delete to get into the bios, but as soon as it gets past that point, I can't use my keyboard
[12:51] <tach00> it just says its getting the updates
[12:51] <andi5> lancer285: well, i have usb keyboard too, but have always used it with a usb->ps adaptor..... because my keyboard never send all codes in usb... but maybe we find a solution
[12:51] <lancer285> andi5: I will see if I have a usb to ps2 adapter.
[12:51] <dagrump_> eobanb: that got me fixed thanks
[12:52] <tach00> tried #apt-get install -f, and #touch --help
[12:52] <andi5> lancer285: but look into your bios, search for a usb keyboard check somewhere
[12:52] <lancer285> andi5: I looked. but I will double check.
[12:53] <andi5> lancer285: maybe "legacy usb"?
[12:54] <tach00> i know it has something to do with the package kcemirror, i just dont know how to fix the error
[12:54] <PacketScan> andi5, sounds promising
[12:54] <lancer285> andi5:  okay, I will check that out! thankso
[12:54] <wastrel> flash is causing firefox to crash in dapper- any way to fix?
[12:55] <dapatrick> Quick question: how can I forge apt-get (or some similar util) to allow to to install libapache2-mod-php4 when libapache2-mod-php5 is already installed?
[12:55] <dapatrick> wastrel: I'm having the same problem but inconsistently.  Not on very flash application.
[12:55] <Seveas> dapatrick, those aren't mutually exclusive...
[12:56] <dapatrick> Yes, I know.
[12:56] <wastrel> dapatrick:  exactly
[12:56] <andi5> dapatrick: simple answer: do not do it
[12:56] <tach00> is there some #apt-get command to remove that package from the list so the system will move past it
[12:57] <dapatrick> Seveas: apt-get wants to remove php5
[12:57] <Seveas> dapatrick, odd
[12:57] <dapatrick> Yeah totally.  If you apt-get libapache2-mod-php4
[12:57] <dapatrick> You'll see what I mean.
[12:58] <dapatrick> I'd just like to be able to switch back and forth using sudo a2enmod/dismod
[12:58] <dapatrick> Know what I mean?
[12:58] <andi5> dapatrick: use aptitude and tell it that you want to keep php5
[12:58] <dapatrick> aptitude.
[12:58] <dapatrick> Okay, thanks andi5.
[12:58] <andi5> dapatrick: yeah, the third column has a A for automatic (also automatic removals) and M (for manual)
[12:58] <dapatrick> Oh, no, curses.
[12:58] <Seveas> dapatrick, you don't need the package called php5 to keep libapache2-mod-php
[12:59] <Seveas> hmmmmm
[12:59] <andi5> dapatrick: curses == bad?
[12:59] <Seveas> ok, somwhow the packages now conflict
[12:59] <Seveas> fun
[12:59] <PacketScan> Seveas, weeee
[12:59] <dapatrick> andi5: I'll make it.  I'm not a fan, but not a zealot.
[01:00] <kingruedi> andi5: the problem was adblock. I didn't block it. So it is something different
[01:00] <Seveas> dapatrick, that basically makes it impossible to do what you want
[01:00] <andi5> kingruedi: cool, i like solved problems :) .... but they slowly become boring ;-)
[01:00] <andi5> s/slowly/fast/
[01:00] <dapatrick> Seveas: I'm not sure what you mean?
[01:00] <dapatrick> I didn't mean php5
[01:00] <dapatrick> I mean libapache2-mod-php5
[01:01] <Seveas> yeah libapache2-mod-php5 conflicts with libapache2-mod-php4 which means the packages don't want to be installed together
[01:01] <dapatrick> Can I see what conflicts without downloading them?
[01:02] <andi5> dapatrick, Seveas: php5 & mod-php4 is ok, though
[01:02] <dapatrick> Right.
[01:02] <andi5> dapatrick: aptitude shows them all... well, i like it... ;-)
[01:02] <kingruedi> i think i'll try to reinstall adblock and check if it is okay.
[01:02] <dapatrick> That's what I have now, but in the reverse.
[01:02] <dapatrick> But I also want both apache modules, just not enabled at once.
[01:03] <dapatrick> I was betting their shared libraries are named differently so in theory it shouldn't be a problem.
[01:03] <mysticaurora> I have a slight problem concerning the official version of Firefox and Fluxbox. I'm trying to get Firefox back into my /usr/bin, and into Fluxbox's right-click menu(it was automatically generated).
[01:03] <freddyubuntu> Guys , my eyes become tired of reading, I used to make the webpages be read by "Text To Speech" in Windows...how I can do that in Ubuntu , any user friendly program ?
[01:03] <andi5> dapatrick: yeah, install php{4,5} and switch between mod-php{4,5}... but i guess you want to do that anyway :)
[01:03] <dapatrick> but apparently it is.
[01:03] <dapatrick> Yeah.
[01:04] <Seveas> freddyubuntu, festival comes to mind - no idea how to use it though, maybe #ubuntu-accessibility can help
[01:04] <andi5> freddyubuntu: puhhh, the only thing i know about text2speech is festival... see Seveas
[01:04] <Master_Sv> hi all
[01:04] <RememberPOL> hi
[01:04] <kaot> mysticaurora: do you need to move firefox or do you just want fluxbox's menu to see it?
[01:04] <freddyubuntu> I know festival is text2speech
[01:04] <freddyubuntu> but I dont know how to use it
[01:04] <neotard> Are there any good lightweight, gtk, web browsers other than firefox and galeon?
[01:05] <andi5> neotard: epiphany
[01:05] <Master_Sv> any people for speak czech ?
[01:05] <riddlebox> anyone else having a problem with phpmyadmin not displaying, but firefox asking to download a file?
[01:05] <Seveas> !cz
[01:05] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[01:05] <mysticaurora> I've tried using 'cp' to copy the firefox shortcut from ~/firefox/ to /usr/bin, but when I try to start firefox through the term, it says it can't find mozilla's runtime directory.
[01:05] <tach00> check it out what i got when i ran # dpkg --configure -a
[01:05] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16890
[01:05] <mysticaurora> kaot: I just want it to show up on flux's menu.
[01:05] <Master_Sv> ok, sry
[01:05] <dapatrick> WTF.
[01:05] <dapatrick> aptitude is removing everything.
[01:05] <andi5> dapatrick: stop it
[01:05] <RememberPOL> Is there any package differences between the "Desktop/Server/Alternative" install CD ISOs available here: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/  (What _exactly_ is the main difference between the D/S/A derivatives?)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> dapatrick: aptitude does that
[01:06] <mysticaurora> dapatrick: Ctrl+C
[01:06] <mysticaurora> to cancel
[01:06] <andi5> dapatrick: choose _either_ synaptic or aptitude, they do not like each other
[01:06] <andi5> but you can correct that
[01:06] <Seveas> tach00, you need to boot inteo a server kernel
[01:06] <neotard> andi5:  thank you, will look.
[01:06] <lophyte> anyone know how I can convert a DAA file to an ISO?
[01:06] <kaot> mysticaurora: edit the menu file ( ~/.fluxbox/menu, usually), look for the firefox entry, specifiy the new path (~/firefox/whatever).  You may need to restart fluxbox afterwards.
[01:06] <andrea> hi i succcesfully installed xgl/compiz....but every time i use the theme manager, the program crashes
[01:06] <tach00> why wold i do that, im not running a server
[01:06] <mysticaurora> I remember there being a tool to use that makes fluxbox refresh its generated menu file.
[01:07] <eobanb> RememberPOL, Desktop is what you probably want to use.  the server version comes without xorg.  the alternative is an installer CD for ubuntu, but it has no liveCD function
[01:07] <mysticaurora> okay, I'll give that a shot.
[01:07] <kaot> mysticaurora: there probably is an automatic way, but I always did it the hard way because I'm a bonehead.
[01:07] <mysticaurora> kaot: To be honest, I prefer the manual menu method. Lots more control. :P
[01:08] <andi5> dapatrick: the trick is to correct everything, so that aptitude will not install or deinstall anything when you press "g"
[01:08] <kaot> there ya go then! :)
[01:08] <mysticaurora> This is only a temporary setup, though. I'm buying my new box pretty soon.
[01:08] <Master_Sv> is are here any people who help me with pptp klient ?
[01:08] <dapatrick> andi5: Okay.
[01:08] <dapatrick> Is there a way to do it on the command line?
[01:08] <tach00> Seveas: why do i nee to boot into a serve termina
[01:08] <freddyubuntu> so nobody here has ever used Text To Speech under ubuntu ?
[01:09] <mysticaurora> Weird..
[01:09] <mysticaurora> kaot: [include]  (/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu)
[01:09] <Master_Sv> i searching pptp klient for graphic mode for Ubuntu 6.06 v.586i ? give me link for download please
[01:09] <mysticaurora> I guess I should check out that file.
[01:09] <andi5> dapatrick: well, i have never used synaptic extensively, so i do not really know what aptitude wants to change..... best, you fire up aptitude, press g once.... you will have categories like "will be removed".... go to the heading (starting with --) and press "+" for install (do not deinstall)...
[01:10] <andi5> dapatrick: do the same with things to install, press "-" to inhibit installation
[01:10] <docko> hi does anyone know any ssl compliant ircd?
[01:10] <andrea> why is my list of available keyboard layouts empty in System | Preferences | Keyboard?
[01:10] <tach00> is there a service app that ca be ran to fix problems in ubuntu system
[01:10] <dapatrick> andi5: okay, thanks.
[01:10] <tach00> like system doctor
[01:10] <RememberPOL> eobanb: Yes this will be used on a SDK/IDE laptop so I definitely want X installed but I was confused by the wording under Server intall CD..."install Ubuntu permanently on a computer" .. (as if you can't uinstall a system without X... or you can't permanently keep a system with X....) I think the server description should be in more detail, seeing as how the people who really need what it offers will actually understand 
[01:10] <andi5> dapatrick: good luck :)
[01:10] <Master_Sv> !pptp
[01:10] <JUm> are there any good money management programf for ubuntu?
[01:10] <ubotu> I know nothing about pptp
[01:10] <RememberPOL> Thanks, have a nice day!
[01:11] <andi5> JUm: gnucash 2.0 comes out soon :-D
[01:11] <JUm> thanks andi
[01:11] <andi5> JUm: otherwise: grisbi, kmymoney & others
[01:11] <mysticaurora> Holy **** this menu file is huge!
[01:11] <kaot> mysticaurora: I just installed flux about 3 hours ago on this system, had to create the menu by hand from scratch.  Good fun.  I didn't like that menu creator dealie.
[01:11] <JUm> anything in the repositories?
[01:11] <mysticaurora> Yeah, I got lost in the menu creator as well.
[01:12] <andi5> JUm: gnucash 1.8.12 is in the repositories, all the others too
[01:12] <hybridpunk> Currently I have two hard drives installed, WindowsXP Professional on my main hard drive, and Ubuntu on my second hard drive, I was wondering if it was possible to access my Windows harddrive to play my mp3s (just read access, dont plan on moving files between linux-windows) Can anyone help me out on this please?
[01:12] <mysticaurora> When I first installed fluxbox on my other box (before it died ;_;), I checked out fluxbox's site and got to learning. It's such an easy system for editing the menu.
[01:12] <Jowi> !ntfs
[01:12] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:12] <mysticaurora> It's part of why flux is my favorite window manager.
[01:12] <hybridpunk> Thank you Ubotu!
[01:12] <Morrowyn> we need triple a games on ubuntu :)
[01:13] <andi5> where is the place to send awards to ubotu? ;-)
[01:13] <docko> please does anyone know any ssl compliant ircd?
[01:13] <amonkey> i'm following a tutorial that says to edit /etc/modules.d/aliases, but that file does not exist. has it moved? i'm trying to get the nvidia driver working.
[01:14] <Paladine> docko, most of them are
[01:14] <mysticaurora> Do you mean an IRC client docko ?
[01:14] <larson9999> ok, so what's the trick to updating from 15-23 to 15-25 and keeping the nvidia gfx card working?
[01:14] <andi5> amonkey: /etc/modutils.d/aliases?
[01:14] <kaot> mysticaurora: irc server
[01:14] <andi5> amonkey: i hate myself.../etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:14] <tach00> is there an app like system doctor, that can be ran to fix problems within ubuntu???
[01:14] <JUm> hmm my sources.list must be broken again :-)
[01:14] <MatthewV> tach00, what's the problem ??
[01:15] <mysticaurora> oh, okay.
[01:15] <andi5> JUm: why that?
[01:15] <AdamG_FC6> can someone tell me where the sudoers file is? I can't do anything as root...
[01:15] <k3nobi_> tach00: you wont find dr. watson on linux ;-p
[01:15] <mysticaurora> /etc/sudoers?
[01:15] <eobanb> !tell AdamG_FC6 about sudo
[01:15] <amonkey> andi5, much thanks
[01:15] <mysticaurora> Let me check
[01:15] <mysticaurora> AdamG_FC6: /etc/sudoers
[01:15] <JUm> cos the reason i came in here was that i couldnt find any of those in my repositories :-)
[01:15] <AdamG_FC6> thx
[01:15] <mysticaurora> no problem
[01:15] <mysticaurora> :)
[01:16] <eobanb> docko, i think most ircds can do ssl
[01:16] <tach00> MatthewV: as ive stated before in this chat, there is an error involving kcemirror, and my system wont get past it, cant install anything else
[01:16] <andi5> JUm: do you have universe?
[01:16] <mysticaurora> AdamG_FC6: Have you tried 'sudo su', entering your password, and changing root's password with 'passwd'?
[01:16] <kaot> hey speaking of sudo... is there a way to autocomplete sudo commands?  or should I just be less lazy?
[01:16] <JUm> I just added them ;-)
[01:16] <andi5> JUm: apt-get update?
[01:16] <MatthewV> oh, ok sry tach00 i just joined today :)
[01:17] <AdamG_FC6> Mysticaurora: can't
[01:17] <mysticaurora> That sucks.
[01:17] <JUm> I've fixed it
[01:17] <AdamG_FC6> cause My user isn't in the sudoers file
[01:17] <wastrel> kaot:  you can set up bash to autocomplete i think, never bothered with it myself tho
[01:17] <AdamG_FC6> which I can't edit without root...
[01:17] <JUm> thanks andi
[01:17] <tach00> thats ok, im new to linux and this           chat
[01:17] <mysticaurora> Ah
[01:17] <niki> does anyone know a good application for linux that's similar to Acid Pro for windows....i need something that's easy to mix multiple audio tracks with (preferably something besides audacity)
[01:17] <mysticaurora> That's right.
[01:17] <andi5> JUm: :)
[01:17] <AdamG_FC6> so on, so forth, for all eternity
[01:17] <AdamG_FC6> eh, well, that's what LiveCD's are for
[01:17] <c0re^> hey everyone.
[01:17] <kaot> AdamG_FC6: how on earth did that happen?  (so I don't do it myself)
[01:18] <byen> hey guys.. have a quick question.. I want to burn an iso to install ubuntu. But it is a cdrw. shud i choose mutli-session or finalize session to use the cdrw
[01:18] <AdamG_FC6> Kaot: this is actually in Fedora6, not ubuntu
[01:18] <MatthewV> tach00, kcemirror is a prog. to control windows ce, right?
[01:18] <byen> i want to use the cdrw for other use later
[01:18] <tach00> ithink so
[01:18] <AdamG_FC6> but I messed up my grub, so I can't get to ubuntu
[01:18] <andi5> byen: my guess is finalize, but please please do not take that for granted :)
[01:19] <MatthewV> tach00, do you actually use it?
[01:19] <tach00> i was updating and i guess i clicked on kcemirror on accident, however it has something that doesnt lik my system
[01:19] <neotard> AdamG_FC6:  you can always get to a healthy partition, even if grub is screwed.  boot up off the install cd and use the live version of it.
[01:19] <byen> ok. andi5.. lemme see if anyone else has any idea too.. thanks
[01:19] <andrea> why does the desktop theme change when i use xgl?
[01:19] <andrea> and in turn, why does the theme manager programme crash?
[01:19] <MatthewV> tach00, can you start your system to uninstall it?
[01:19] <tach00> now i cant get rid of it
[01:19] <neotard> andrea:  because xgl only supports one theme
[01:20] <AdamG_FC6> neotard: Yeah, I've been doing that. But whenever I've been in the liveCD there's been no one to help me with GRUB... but I think I have it figured out now
[01:20] <tach00> i am running my system, but it wont let me uninstall it
[01:20] <c0re^> jesus the winehq channel is dead :(
[01:20] <MatthewV> tach00, error?
[01:20] <andrea> neotard: thank you
[01:20] <neotard> andrea:  xgl is a window manager itself, it's not as of the moment as friendly :)
[01:20] <tach00> hang on ill show you
[01:20] <c0re^> neotard: i installed it with ease, whats not friendly
[01:20] <andrea> neotard: the effects are cool though :O)
[01:21] <MatthewV> tach00, make sure you don't paste big errors in here, use pastebin or #flood
[01:21] <andrea> neotard: i just prefer the default ubuntu theme though....
[01:21] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16887 click this
[01:21] <gumpish> Document stubs make the baby jesus cry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstall
[01:21] <neotard> c0re^:  the themes.
[01:21] <elknof3> hey hi everybody
[01:21] <andi5> ok, one question: LTS = long time support, right? will there be no updates of applications like there have not been for breezy? only security updates?
[01:21] <c0re^> http://www.tectonic.co.za/view.php?id=916 easiest way to install xgl, but instead of using that (not latest compiz) get it from the compiz site.. which i forgot
[01:22] <elknof3> can somebody helpme configuring the microphone??  it a laptop with integrated mic...
[01:22] <wastrel> breezy only gets security updates now afaik.
[01:22] <tach00> i get that error every time i try to istall/uninstall anything
[01:22] <andi5> i mean dapper now :)
[01:22] <neotard> andrea:  found a really nice theme setup I think :)  silicon borders, outcrop controls and flat-blue icons.
[01:22] <MatthewV> tach00, is it just me, or are you trying to reinstall or replace kcemirror, rather than remove it....?
[01:22] <JUm> what is xgl and what difference would it make to my machine?
[01:22] <c0re^> anyone with wine experience care to help me?
[01:22] <rob> JUm, it will crash more
[01:23] <JUm> lol
[01:23] <rob> :)
[01:23] <tach00> no, i tried to uninstall it, woldnt work, so i tried o reinstall it so i could uninstall it, still dont or
[01:23] <andi5> JUm: xgl is evil and it will make a difference between a running computer and a not-running computer
[01:23] <tach00> work
[01:23] <niki> Acid Pro equivalent for linux?  anyone?
[01:23] <johan_> This is so weird, no matter how many times I change the loginscreen, it always reverts back to the default one. Has anyone had the same problem?
[01:23] <andrea> neotard: where are those options in the theme manager?
[01:23] <neotard> JUm:  Xgl is a fancy x server that uses graphics accelration to do eye candy.  it isn't an important, and sometimes problematic addition for many people.
[01:23] <ompaul> niki, why not ask for a program that does X
[01:23] <johan_> niki: ardour is the only one that I know of. I haven't tried to install it yet though.
[01:23] <niki> i need a program that can mix multiple tracks of audio
[01:23] <tlax> anybody else have weird problems with gnomes filemenus?
[01:23] <JUm> i tried to install it once and gnome wouldnt start properly
[01:23] <c0re^> is ubuntu supposed to detect my agp card as pci?
[01:24] <riddlebox> how can I tell what package something called lex is in?
[01:24] <c0re^> is ubuntu supposed to detect my agp card as pci?
[01:24] <ompaul> !repeat
[01:24] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:24] <neotard> andrea:  think I downloaded silicon and outcrop off art.gnome.org, and flat-blue is a default icon set.  under themes you go to "theme details" and change each of the three areas to what you want.
[01:24] <rob> niki, tried Kdenlive?
[01:24] <niki> rob, nope....i'll look it up now, thanks :)
[01:24] <andi5> riddlebox: it is flex.... see packages.ubuntu.com
[01:24] <ompaul> riddlebox, apt-cache search lex
[01:24] <tach00> MatthewV: thats what i am trying to tell you,its like my sysem is hung on it
[01:25] <neotard> c0re^:  what do you mean detect it as pci?
[01:25] <MatthewV> tach00, maybe try uninstalling while in recovery mode, or use some of the --force options in dpkg?
[01:25] <andrea> neotard: in theme details i only get "controls" and "icons"
[01:25] <rob> niki, rosegarden is supposed to be pretty good too
[01:25] <c0re^> neotard: i go into the device manager, it says bus.info = pci
[01:25] <mysticaurora> koat: Just because I'm lazy, do you happen to know how I can make a valid firefox shortcut in /usr/bin?
[01:25] <neotard> andrea:  if you're using xgl you can't control borders
[01:25] <andrea> i like xgl :O)
[01:25] <c0re^> neotard: and has a pci tab
[01:25] <tach00> ok i will try the --force options, but i have not tried to reove it in ecovery mode, gess i will try that as well
[01:26] <ompaul> mysticaurora, it is thre already
[01:26] <andrea> but now it's obstructing practicality.....:O(
[01:26] <tach00> So, there is nothing i can do while logged in huh?
[01:26] <andi5> c0re^: i have no idea, but do you have /sys/bus/agp?
[01:26] <neotard> c0re^:  *shrug*  agp is usually on the pci bus.  all agp cards detect there that I'm aware of.
[01:26] <wm0t> hey.
[01:26] <wm0t> guys
[01:26] <alex_> how to install a .tar.gz file?
[01:26] <wm0t> im trying to mount an extended fat32 partition
[01:26] <wm0t> mount /dev/hda4 /home/wm0t/Desktop/fat32/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[01:26] <wm0t> it wont work
[01:26] <wm0t> any ideas?
[01:26] <c0re^> andi5: let me check
[01:26] <mysticaurora> ompaul: I uninstalled the ubuntu version of Fx and installed the official version (so I can make ColorZilla work)
[01:26] <andi5> neotard: ah, so agp is not a separate bus? fine :)
[01:26] <mysticaurora> So /usr/bin/firefox doesn't exist
[01:26] <neotard> alex_:  tar.gz is an archive file, it's not an installation package necessarily.
[01:27] <c0re^> wm0t: did you create that directory?
[01:27] <MatthewV> tach00, yeah, its just a suggestion, as that will then make sure nothing else is running that might be using some files..... rather strange really
[01:27] <wm0t> yes of course
[01:27] <c0re^> wm0t: lol good
[01:27] <tach00> MatthewV: can ou give me an example of what command might work?
[01:27] <tach00> --force i mean
[01:27] <c0re^> andi5: negatory, no agp directory within /sys/bus
[01:27] <neotard> mysticaurora:  if you install the official version outside of a debian package, are you sure it install into /usr/bin?
[01:27] <ompaul> alex_, usually you dont wnat to in most cases, what are you trying to install, apt-get has almost 20k packjages when configured correctly, tar xzgf File.tar.gz and then follow instrutions
[01:28] <mysticaurora> neoncode: I installed it to my home directory. <_<;;
[01:28] <MatthewV> tach00, maybe to force everything : sudo dpkg --remove --force-all kcemirror
[01:28] <ubuntu> HEY GUYS question, when installing under the new liveCD install, thhe mount points wont wipe my windows right ? its just how to mount the partitions in linux ???????????????
[01:28] <ubuntu> it says "Prepare Mount Points"
[01:28] <mysticaurora> I tried copying the binary to /usr/bin but it said it couldn't find the mozilla runtime directory.
[01:29] <ubuntu> anyone ?
[01:29] <neotard> mysticaurora:  then you need to manage that :)  non-debs don't necessarily magically configure themself.
[01:29] <c0re^> ubuntu: uhh, are you doing a manual partition install?
[01:29] <andrea> ubuntu: make sure you do not mount on a current NTFS drive though
[01:29] <mysticaurora> so I had to run firefox through '~/firefox/firefox'
[01:29] <johan_> where do I get the desktop effects tools for compiz that comes installed with suse?
[01:29] <Toz> #ubuntu-fr
[01:29] <c0re^> andi5: negatory, no agp directory within /sys/bus
[01:29] <ubuntu> c0re^ yes trying to  install without wiping my current windows
[01:29] <wm0t> andrea?
[01:29] <ompaul> mysticaurora, you need to install it there - have a look at the help file and "system help system doc > ubuntu packaging guidel"
[01:29] <wm0t> are you talking to me?
[01:29] <neotard> mysticaurora:  not the way I'd do it, but whatever works right? :)
[01:30] <wm0t> yes there is a ntfs partition on the same drive
[01:30] <ompaul> !xgl
[01:30] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:30] <ubuntu> c0re^ i have sda1 for my backup partition, sda2 as my windows, and / as my linux
[01:30] <andi5> c0re^: yes, .... i guess everything is ok.... or.... better shut your computer down immediately ;-)
[01:30] <andrea> wmOt: no to ubuntu....
[01:30] <mysticaurora> ompaul: Shouldn't I install new packages to /etc/ instead of /usr/bin?
[01:30] <c0re^> andi5: what?
[01:30] <c0re^> andi5: wtf?
[01:30] <mysticaurora> I thought only shortcuts belong in /usr/bin
[01:30] <ubuntu> andrea read what i said to c0re^ does that make sense?
[01:30] <andi5> c0re^: lol, you see smile ;-)
[01:30] <wm0t> ah ok
[01:30] <wm0t> well..
[01:30] <ompaul> mysticaurora, no /usr/local but read that doc it may help you along
[01:30] <wm0t> any help people?
[01:30] <mysticaurora> okay
[01:30] <c0re^> andi5: no no wait a second, what the hell are you talking about, turn off my computer
[01:31] <neotard> mysticaurora:  lsb defines /usr/bin as the place where "user binary programs" are installed
[01:31] <tach00> MathewV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16893
[01:31] <ubuntu> andrea am i making sense?
[01:31] <tach00> this is what that comand did
[01:31] <c0re^> andi5: so im supposed to have no agp directory within /sys/bus/?
[01:31] <andrea> ubuntu: i'm assuming / is a seperate entry in your partition list
[01:31] <neotard> mysticaurora:  or rather, "system wide" binaries :)
[01:31] <ompaul> mysticaurora, frankly I don't approve of bringing in random new packages due to the fact that they can break what you already have installed in new and interesting ways
[01:31] <andrea> ubuntu: if it is, then ur set
[01:31] <ubuntu> andrea yes
[01:31] <andi5> c0re^: yeah, or better take your computer and throw it into your local river :)
[01:31] <ompaul> !timetable
[01:31] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more.
[01:31] <c0re^> andi5: oh coolio.
[01:31] <jajaja-> hey guys, I messed up my nvidia drivers and I cant get to the ubuntu login screen, just takes me to the prompt to fix it but I am unsure how
[01:31] <c0re^> andi5:  are you experienced with wine?
[01:31] <ompaul> mysticaurora, ^^ that last comment by ubotu
[01:32] <andrea> ubuntu: you also need a partition for SWAP....a sort of "pagefile" drive
[01:32] <ubuntu> andrea i love the new live CD install, i remember days of old, when there were blue screens and black text
[01:32] <andi5> c0re^: you mean the winehq? i do not use it
[01:32] <c0re^> andi5: i desperately need my winecfg to stop dying when i hit the audio tab
[01:32] <c0re^> andi5: ARGGHHH
[01:32] <ompaul> jajaja-, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that
[01:32] <c0re^> andi5: nobody in #winehq is alive, so i have to ask here
[01:32] <neotard> jajaja-:  if you were tinkering with xorg.conf you might want to back it up and rerun "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:32] <mysticaurora> Where can I find the help file to consult, ompaul ? I don't think I can get to system help through a menu since I'm using fluxbox.
[01:32] <andi5> c0re^: sure that this is the default wine irc channel?
[01:32] <c0re^> andi5: pretty sure
[01:32] <neotard> jajaja-:  then you'll need to restart gdm
[01:33] <ompaul> mysticaurora, well it should be in /usr/share/docs and it is on line at help.ubuntu.com
[01:33] <c0re^> andi5: Topic for #winehq is End user/tech support channel for Wine (www.winehq.org)
[01:33] <mysticaurora> ompaul: Alright, thanks. :)
[01:33] <larson9999> apparently i timed out so i'll try again:  i'm so confused.  shouldn't there be a linux-restricted-modules-2.15-25* in the same place there is a linux-restricted-modules-2.15-23* ?
[01:33] <ompaul> yw
[01:33] <MatthewV> tach00, try reinstalling it, using sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/kcemirror_0.1.4-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[01:33] <andrea> ubuntu: i'm trying to learn to use linux slowly....its quite fun...and i found ubuntu perfect for my needs
[01:34] <ompaul> larson9999, so you mix and match, deathmatch 2006 and your cpu plays your binaries
[01:34] <neotard> be careful with force O.o
[01:34] <tach00> ok
[01:34] <c0re^> andrea: especially xgl, it was easy to install right?
[01:34] <ubuntu> andrea hehe i started using linux back at the end of Hoary
[01:34] <ompaul> !reinstall
[01:34] <ubotu> To renew the configuration of a package when installing, sudo apt-get remove --purge <package> && sudo apt-get install <package>. Note that you will lose ALL config files for that package. WARNING: This is dangerous, don't do this with core packages
[01:34] <andi5> c0re^: hm.... well, i would like to help you, but.... i follow a few but simply rules... one of them is not to use wine :)
[01:34] <mysticaurora> ompaul: The packaging guide, correct?
[01:34] <Lobster> Gute Nacht
[01:34] <andi5> Lobster: n8
[01:34] <ompaul> mysticaurora, at a guess yes
[01:34] <larson9999> ompaul: errr, what?
[01:34] <c0re^> andi5: sorry, i have to due to Steam not being native to linux.
[01:34] <ompaul> larson9999, read ubotu
[01:34] <MatthewV> tach00, or maybe try what ubotu just said
[01:35] <jajaja0> hey guys, I messed up my nvidia drivers and I cant get to the ubuntu login screen, just takes me to the prompt to fix it but I am unsure how
[01:35] <mysticaurora> What exactly am I looking for again?
[01:35] <mysticaurora> This channel moves so quickly..
[01:35] <ubuntu> jajaja0 reinstall linux : )
[01:35] <andi5> c0re^: so what exactly happens?
[01:35] <andrea> cOre^: for XGL i followed the help on the forums...didn't find any trouble....but I didn't like the way it disable themes
[01:35] <jajaja0> noooooo ubuntu
[01:35] <ubuntu> lol
[01:35] <ompaul> jajaja0, I answered that already: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << do that
[01:35] <c0re^> andrea: didnt disable mine...
[01:35] <ubuntu> jajaja0 boot in recovery mode
[01:35] <jajaja0> is there a way i can save all my myth settings ubuntu
[01:36] <ubuntu> jajaja0 then do a reconfigure...
[01:36] <robertj> wowzers, I'm stunned by how well WorldOfWarcraft worked. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WorldofWarcraft
[01:36] <andrea> cOre^: it just lets me use a single theme....and the theme manager program crashes each time
[01:36] <jajaja0> i cant get into recovery mode ubuntu, does the same thing
[01:36] <ubuntu> jajaja0 a reconfigure will not wipe the HD
[01:36] <andrea> so i'm back with normal desktop
[01:36] <c0re^> andi5: i click the audio tab, and it dumps this into the console: ALSA lib seq_hw.c:456:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory
[01:36] <c0re^> Creating link /home/josh/.kde/socket-josh-ubuntu.
[01:36] <c0re^> can't create mcop directory
[01:36] <jajaja0> ubuntu how can i do a reconfigure?
[01:36] <c0re^> andrea: i have a dark theme on mine, with xgl
[01:36] <ompaul> !enter
[01:36] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:36] <c0re^> andrea: changed after i installed
[01:37] <ompaul> c0re^, that enter comment was for you
[01:37] <ubuntu> jajaja0 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:37] <andrea> cOre^: :o(
[01:37] <ompaul> !paste
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:37] <c0re^> ok paul
[01:37] <c0re^> jesus
[01:37] <mysticaurora> pastebin is awesome.
[01:37] <c0re^> channel nazi :(
[01:37] <ompaul> c0re^, less language
[01:37] <c0re^> sorry.
[01:37] <c0re^> haha
[01:37] <mysticaurora> Very helpful for finding x-server errors
[01:37] <andrea> cOre^: do you have the specific help page you used for XGL?
[01:38] <tach00> MathewV: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16894 for the last command
[01:38] <skrummm> !help mount
[01:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about help mount
[01:38] <skrummm> aww
[01:38] <skrummm> !mount
[01:38] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[01:38] <howy424> Hi, I've just done my first ubuntu install, I did it on a brand new 80GB HD with two partitions, but it created it's own partition, which is only 3GB and too small by the looks of things
[01:38] <tach00> MatthwewV; for what uboto said, E: Couldn't find package kcemirror_0.1.4-3ubuntu1_i386.deb
[01:39] <tach00> i guess its not there and some log says it is
[01:39] <tach00> maybe
[01:39] <skrummm> howy: did you manually edit the partition table?
[01:39] <burgermann> In the installed ubuntu apache package. Does anyone know what format locales must be? Since I'm from denmark da_DK should work, it doesn't know.
[01:39] <tach00> how can i get my system t overloo it
[01:39] <tach00> overlook
[01:39] <MatthewV> tach00, so ubotu 's didn't work either?? to be perfectly honest, I am... well... stuck
[01:40] <howy424> no, the two partitions I created on the new drive were done in Win XP, one a 30GB FAT32 and another 50GB ntfs...
[01:40] <tach00> ME TOO,thats why i am herelol
[01:40] <mjr> burgermann, probably only the utf-8 locale is generated by default, try da_DK.utf8
[01:40] <howy424> it didn't seem to recognise the FAT 32 drive, so I told it just use all the NTFS partition
[01:40] <tach00> could it e a bug in the OS?
[01:40] <skrummm> leave it unpartitoned
[01:40] <ompaul> howy424, don't try to write to ntfs
[01:40] <howy424> the whole drive?
[01:40] <skrummm> no
[01:41] <skrummm> just the ntfs section
[01:41] <howy424> that's what I'd read in the docs, and why I created a FAT 32 partition
[01:41] <skrummm> then partition that bit with ubuntu
[01:41] <tach00> what file keeps the package managers lists? maybe if i remove the text line the system will oerlook it
[01:41] <ubuntu> dont partition me, im evil !
[01:41] <burgermann> mjr: That might be a problem since the page is ISO, however you atleast pointed me in a direction to look
[01:41] <burgermann> mjr: so thx :)
[01:42] <Intelligi> I need serious help.
[01:42] <Intelligi> And I can't seem to find it.
[01:42] <skrummm> also, im on a live cd and i need to mount the hdd that ubuntu is installed on, but nothing seems to be working, any ideas?
[01:42] <howy424> OK, so can I re-partition the FAT32 partition, so ubuntu can use all of it?
[01:42] <skrummm> do you have an install of windows on this drive/
[01:42] <skrummm> ?
[01:43] <ubuntu> you can but most times yull loose all the date
[01:43] <ompaul> Intelligi, as you have been here for hours has it not occured to you that those who get help ask informed direct questions of the channel and wait for a reply
[01:43] <ubuntu> datat*
[01:43] <tach00> MatthewV: what file keeps the package managers lists? maybe if i remove the text line the system will overlook it
[01:43] <howy424> skrumm: no, it's a drive dedicated for ubuntu
[01:43] <Hackmo> Hey all, does Ubuntu ship with GCC and other dev utils now?
[01:43] <MatthewV> tach00, i'm not sure if that would work, and i don't know :(
[01:43] <ubuntu> then yes howy424
[01:43] <skrummm> @howy: then just format the entire drive and let the installer partition it
[01:43] <ompaul> Hackmo, you should install build-essential and you will enjoy gcc
[01:44] <ubuntu> hackmo sudo apt-get install is the tool for you
[01:44] <howy424> OK, so do I "re-install" ubuntu?
[01:44] <Hackmo> ompaul: but it doesn't come with GCC as a standerd?
[01:44] <apokryphos> Hackmo: not in a standard install, no.
[01:44] <ompaul> Hackmo, it is on the disk not installed
[01:44] <ggilbert_> Hackmo: No, ubuntu doesn't come with a compiler out of the box
[01:44] <potoka> holaaaaaaa
[01:44] <skrummm> @howy: yeah
[01:44] <ompaul> !es
[01:44] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:45] <Hackmo> apokryphos, ompaul, ggilbert: ok thanks :)
[01:45] <potoka> ok
[01:45] <howy424> K, I am out of here to go do just that...
[01:45] <potoka> bye
[01:45] <howy424> thanks for your help all!
[01:45] <ompaul> skrummm, this is irc @ does nothing it is in the public domain ;-)
[01:45] <skrummm> @howy: unless you have data you want ot save
[01:45] <skrummm> d'oh
[01:45] <howy424> nah, fresh install, can loose everything
[01:45] <howy424> thanks again, cya
[01:45] <skrummm> alright
[01:45] <skrummm> cool
[01:45] <tach00> ok so i guess i will go and see how long it takes me to go back to windows lol
[01:45] <skrummm> let us know how it went
[01:45] <Intelligi> Ok, why is my network no longer working? My wireless router should recognize my card (it did last night) in Ubuntu, and it should be DCHP IP-assigned and all that crap. I tried switching to Static IP and stuff, with settings I know work for my Xbox.
[01:45] <howy424> will do, brb
[01:45] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> how do i install the xmms that kopete needs , its so fakin annoying, the damn xmms wont compile for shit
[01:46] <Intelligi> Nothing works.
[01:46] <Bassetts> how can i make svg into a png
[01:46] <skrummm> gimp
[01:46] <wastrel> inkscape!
[01:46] <apokryphos> VieLGuS-KuTaS: language, please. And secondly -- kopete "needing" xmms -- what??
[01:46] <Bassetts> gimp wont open the svg
[01:46] <skrummm> oh.
[01:46] <Bassetts> inkscape doesnt seem to save as png
[01:47] <skrummm> save it as something else
[01:47] <skrummm> then open it in gimp?
[01:47] <Bassetts> like?
[01:47] <skrummm> bmp? xcf?
[01:47] <ompaul> Intelligi, I told you ndiswrapper eariler, if it worked last night then click on System Administration Networking and work on it from there
[01:47] <skrummm> srsly, mounting a drive? anyone?
[01:47] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> apokryphos: it needs xmms to compile
[01:47] <Intelligi> I have, and I've tried everything, and nothing works.
[01:47] <apokryphos> VieLGuS-KuTaS: no, it doesn't.
[01:48] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> apokryphos: well im compiling it , and thats what it says
[01:48] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: Kopete had an xmms plugin at one point, so there might still be a build dependency in the package
[01:48] <apokryphos> VieLGuS-KuTaS: pastebin, please.
[01:48] <ompaul> skrummm, mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /mnt/sillydrive - what exactly are you trying to do - not enough info
[01:48] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: it would never be a build-dependency but an option
[01:48] <Bassetts> skrummm: inkscape doesnt save those
[01:48] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> apokryphos: alright
[01:48] <ompaul> Intelligi, get other card or router and test setup
[01:48] <wastrel> gimp can open pdf
[01:48] <Bassetts> thanks
[01:48] <skrummm> im on a live cd right now, trying to get into the hdd that ubuntu is installed on
[01:48] <Intelligi> It's Ubuntu, not the card or the router.
[01:48] <ompaul> Intelligi, it does not stop working unless you do something
[01:48] <apokryphos> ggilbert_ ; VieLGuS-KuTaS: think about it, Kopete is KDE's instant messenger. You think you need xmms to compile kde?
[01:48] <Intelligi> Well, I shut Ubuntu off...
[01:48] <Intelligi> And then turned it back on.
[01:49] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: I am thinking about it :)
[01:49] <ompaul> Intelligi, did you try that menu I pointed you to?
[01:49] <Intelligi> Yes, I have been screwing with it all day.
[01:49] <kevin> Intelligi, what card? If it is a Broadcom, I have mine working but only at home, no where else
[01:49] <anosa> i can't hear any sound with my creative SB sound card, help me... please
[01:50] <ompaul> Intelligi, so you installed got it working and between the install and the shutdown you added something that broke the network
[01:50] <apokryphos> anosa: /msg ubotu sound
[01:50] <Intelligi> It is a Xterasys XN-2511b.
[01:50] <Intelligi> No, I didn't.
[01:50] <Blissex> anosa: troubleshooting section of http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[01:50] <ompaul> Intelligi, if it worked yesterday then it should work today
[01:50] <Intelligi> Well, possibly. I did download XMMS and VDL Media.
[01:50] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: It build depends on xmms-dev
[01:50] <ompaul> Intelligi, and other things no doubt
[01:50] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: I just looked
[01:50] <Intelligi> No.
[01:51] <Intelligi> I installed nothing else.
[01:51] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: no, it doesn't. Only if you want the xmms multimedia plugin for the "now playing"
[01:51] <ompaul> Intelligi, is it some kind of usb device?
[01:51] <Intelligi> No, it is a PCI wireless card.
[01:51] <anosa> apokryphos, Blissex >> thnx, i'll check it out
[01:51] <ompaul> Intelligi, does lspci show it?
[01:52] <Intelligi> Hold on, brb.
[01:53] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: I just looked at the control file. The kdenetwork package has a build-depend against xmms. It may not be necessary to run kopete, but he said build :)
[01:53] <Intelligi> Yes, it does.
[01:53] <skrummm> alright, is there any way i can do a repair install of ubuntu?
[01:53] <Intelligi> It shows it as a Linksy though, but the chipset is right (adm8-blah something).
[01:54] <Intelligi> The wireless card is clearly recognized though.
[01:54] <ompaul> Intelligi, how did you get it to work the first time?
[01:54] <Intelligi> I didn't have to do anything. It just worked.
[01:54] <Intelligi> As soon as I booted up.
[01:54] <ompaul> Intelligi, got any other slots?
[01:54] <Intelligi> Which is why I was so impressed with Ubuntu.
[01:54] <Intelligi> Yeah.
[01:54] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: if you're talking about output from build-dep kopete (or the control file) then that *only* means that the package was made to require kopete, or that the kopete in the repos was compiled with xmms  support... again impossible, since there's no xmms on Kubuntu
[01:55] <Intelligi> You want me to move it to another PCI slot?
[01:55] <ompaul> was it in one of them ?
[01:55] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: *made to require xmms
[01:55] <Intelligi> Of course it was in a PCI slot.
[01:55] <Intelligi> IT wouldn't fit anywhere else.
[01:55] <ompaul> Intelligi, that was misunderstood, was it in a slot other than the one it is in
[01:56] <Intelligi> No, I have never moved it.
[01:56] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: erm. How would you build the debian package if ubuntu doesn't have all of the build dependencies?  ( and xmms is in the repository)
[01:56] <ompaul> Intelligi, okay do this - turn it off move it and turn it on again
[01:56] <andi5> Intelligi: beware... there are people that sawed off part of an agp(4x?) card to put it into a pci slot....
[01:56] <Intelligi> lol
[01:56] <Intelligi> Ok, I'll try that.
[01:56] <Intelligi> brb
[01:56] <andi5> funny, but it did not work ;-)
[01:56] <PacketScan> andi5, i've seen that before.
[01:56] <PacketScan> people are stupid sometimes.
[01:57] <andi5> o man...
[01:57] <fxroland2> hi
[01:57] <ompaul> PacketScan, or missing some information
[01:57] <PacketScan> ompaul, sorry that's plain irrisponsible.
[01:58] <davidmccabe> Argggh! My computer hardwarily crashed in the middle of upgrading to dapper!
[01:58] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: hm, actually, my bad -- very bad braino. Just realised that you would of course compile with xmms-dev even if there is no xmms for the distro just in case a user wished to use the plugin later.
[01:58] <ompaul> PacketScan, I would say, hard to justify
[01:58] <davidmccabe> At least it boots! How though do I resume the upgrade safely?
[01:58] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: :)
[01:58] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: apologies for my bad jumping the gun =)
[01:58] <mike-x2> hi all
[01:58] <dibblego> !flash
[01:58] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:58] <skrummm> alright, next question: how can i reset a xorg.conf on another hdd?
[01:58] <apokryphos> ggilbert_: though I did originally take him to mean compile depends ;-)
[01:59] <apokryphos> skrummm: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:59] <ggilbert_> apokryphos: Some things have the weirdest dependencies :)
[01:59] <skrummm> apok: even if im running on a livecd right now?
[01:59] <mp3guy> ktorrent and azureus can't write to my fat32 partition, which is the one with all the free space, is there a way around this?
[01:59] <apokryphos> skrummm: indeed
[01:59] <skrummm> awesome, thanks
[01:59] <apokryphos> mp3guy: why can't they write to it?
[01:59] <apokryphos> mp3guy: fat32 has file limit of 4 gigs or something, though, as I recall.
[02:00] <mp3guy> can't create symlinks and "Operation Not Permitted" pretty much apokryphos
[02:00] <majd> hey
[02:00] <andi5> mp3guy: did you mount them correctly?
[02:00] <Intelligi> moved, booting now.
[02:00] <majd> can i install windows after i have ubuntu installed?
[02:00] <Intelligi> brb
[02:00] <mp3guy> whats the proper mount command andi5?
[02:00] <ompaul> !grub
[02:00] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:00] <mp3guy> for fstab
[02:00] <apokryphos> mp3guy: is it mounted as read only?
[02:00] <fxroland2> how can i reinstall samba ,but dont loss the users group?
[02:00] <apokryphos> majd: yes, but you'll need to read /msg ubotu grub
[02:01] <mjr> mp3guy, use another torrent client (I think rtorrent could work) or make a loopback ext2 file system in a fat32 file :] 
[02:01] <ompaul> majd, ^^ keep in mind what ubotu said - if you have not started start with windows - or just leave windows off the machine
[02:01] <andi5> !tell mp3guy about fat32
[02:01] <mp3guy> apokryphos and andi5, I'll paste my fstab line for the drive
[02:01] <apokryphos> k
[02:02] <mp3guy> /dev/hda1       /home/thomas/stuff vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1
[02:02] <skrummm> aopk: i think that worked, thanks man!
[02:02] <apokryphos> VieLGuS-KuTaS: why are you trying to build kopete, by the way?
[02:02] <skrummm> i hope so, anyway
[02:02] <majd> apokryphos, so make sure i have a way to get grub...then install windows on a new partition i create during windows' installation?
[02:02] <Intelligi> That worked. Thanks ompaul.
[02:02] <Intelligi> You're the best!
[02:02] <Intelligi> Why would that change anything though?
[02:02] <fxroland2> $ sudo aptitude install smbfs?
[02:02] <VieLGuS-KuTaS> apokryphos: because i dont know any better
[02:02] <ompaul> Intelligi, - note this, pci and usb can at times do things we don't quite grok easiest to just move the device
[02:03] <apokryphos> majd: basically, yes.
[02:03] <roostishaw> where can i find my apache2 'directive'? im trying to install relay...
[02:03] <wastrel> ubuntu is krad
[02:03] <majd> apokryphos, thanks
[02:04] <andi5> roostishaw: look into /etc/apache2
[02:04] <apokryphos> mp3guy: hm, looks fine. What happens if you touch /home/thomas/stuff/somefile ?
[02:04] <r0bby> humala, i'd prefer if you never sent me a memo via memoserv again in your lifetime kthx.
[02:04] <_james_> how can I ping another use from Ubuntu?
[02:04] <_james_> how can I ping another use from Ubuntu?
[02:04] <diatribe> I was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?
[02:04] <andi5> r0bby: i was so lucky.... nobody has sent me one before ;-(
[02:04] <mp3guy> nothing happens apokryphos
[02:04] <r0bby> it's good.
[02:04] <intellig1> Yeah! Ubuntu!
[02:04] <GigaClon> anyone know how do get my mounted drives listed in the Places menu
[02:04] <r0bby> cherish the time you have.
[02:04] <apokryphos> mp3guy: not as root, right?
[02:05] <mp3guy> no
[02:05] <r0bby> I sent a VERY nice message back =)
[02:05] <r0bby> I don't think I'll be getting a reply :D
[02:05] <roostishaw> andi5, so what do i do in there?
[02:05] <apokryphos> mp3guy: weird, it should work then. The file you're getting from the torrent isn't more than 4 gigs, is it?
[02:05] <mp3guy> no
[02:05] <_james_> how can I ping another use from Ubuntu ecery 5 secs?
[02:05] <andi5> roostishaw: well.... read README? ;-)
[02:05] <apokryphos> mp3guy: and what's the *exact* error from ktorrent?
[02:05] <roostishaw> andi5, which one is the 'directive'?
[02:05] <kr4z> GigaClon: if you add the directory as a bookmark it should show up under Places
[02:05] <mp3guy> I'll paste bin it
[02:05] <apokryphos> thanks
[02:05] <ompaul> _james_, ping -i 5 other.host.whatever
[02:06] <GigaClon> kr4z, in Breezy it was there and on the desktop by default
[02:06] <_james_> ompaul: thanks! will that send a ping every 5secs?
[02:06] <andi5> r0bby: why that?
[02:06] <kr4z> ah
[02:06] <kr4z> no idea then
[02:06] <diatribe> I was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?
[02:06] <ompaul> _james_, yes
[02:06] <witless> how does it feel to be part of the best damn distribution on the planet?
[02:07] <GigaClon> damn fine
[02:07] <witless> hell yeah
[02:07] <andi5> witless: i am not part of suse...
[02:07] <ompaul> _james_, man ping will give you more options than I could remember #
[02:07] <ompaul> !offtopic
[02:07] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[02:07] <_james_> ompaul: will that be enough pings to disconnect them from IRC? :)
[02:07] <visik7> I know this is not In Topic but read this http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html
[02:07] <witless> andi5: :-)
[02:07] <diatribe> dumb ass
[02:07] <ompaul> _james_, don't even joke like that
[02:08] <ompaul> diatribe, what
[02:08] <_james_> ompaul: ;)
[02:08] <r0bby> .fn
[02:08] <diatribe> ?
[02:08] <_james_> ompaul: sorry, was jk
[02:08] <_james_> ompaul: im using ping -c50 -i
[02:08] <_james_> ompaul: what does -c do excactly?
[02:08] <johan_> Has anyone had the problem of login screen theme not changing when I tell it to?
[02:08] <roostishaw> andi5, hm... the install page of relay says "Apache isn't configured to read the .htaccess file, you must manualy enter the following into you websites directive."
[02:08] <ompaul> diatribe, to whom was that greeting addressed
[02:08] <apokryphos> mp3guy: what about touch /home/thomas/stuff/torrents/somefile ?
[02:08] <intellig1> How do I find out what my IP is?
[02:08] <ompaul> intellig1, ifconfig
[02:08] <roostishaw> andi5, and then tells me what to add...
[02:08] <andi5> intellig1: www.whatismyip.com
[02:08] <GigaClon> www.whatismyip.com
[02:08] <diatribe> _james_ and it wasnt a greeting
[02:09] <mp3guy> I found out that fat32 doesn't support symlinks...
[02:09] <Apodemos> someone use the latest kernel version?
[02:09] <andi5> mp3guy: oh, yes, that is correct ;-) welcome to fat
[02:09] <apokryphos> mp3guy: weird, I had a slight recollection that it did.
[02:09] <apokryphos> dang
[02:09] <intellig1> I tried accessing Ubuntu from winscp, but it said connection refused.
[02:09] <jrib> intellig1: did you install openssh-server on ubuntu?
[02:09] <apokryphos> mp3guy: weird that ktorrent tries to get around that problem using symlinks, really
[02:10] <Miles_Prower> Hello there
[02:10] <roostishaw> andi5, any ideas?
[02:10] <dli> intellig1, you have to install sshd at your ubuntu side
[02:10] <ompaul> tyrchyus, don't use away messages it more than a channel with 687 logged on need - do it silently with /away Some Message then no disturbance in the channel we all win
[02:10] <intellig1> How do I do that?
[02:10] <WarOfAttrition> obese32 kind of sucks for an OS, might be good for pen drives, cameras and such
[02:10] <diatribe> I was wondering if any of you could maybe help.  When my computer boots, it just goes to a black screen as opposed to showing the usplash screen.  I've reconfigured the splash and linux image pkgs, but its still not working.  any ideas?
[02:10] <tyrchyus> sorry
[02:10] <ompaul> diatribe, check the simlinks fir that
[02:10] <jrib> intellig1: install the openssh-server package with your favorite package manager (synaptic, apt-get, aptitude...)
[02:10] <dli> diatribe, bootsplash? I don't like bootsplash, it slows down the booting process
[02:11] <andi5> roostishaw: did you read README??? it tells you to add local confs to conf.d.... create a file and put your directives there... /etc/init.d/apache2 reload ..tada ;-)
[02:11] <ompaul> diatribe, check the simlinks for that image
[02:11] <kevin> diatribe, I think someone said to do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org
[02:11] <kevin> maybe I was wrong
[02:11] <apokryphos> kevin: xorg
[02:11] <diatribe> hmm ok
[02:11] <roostishaw> andi5, what is the filename? the new one i mean
[02:11] <andi5> roostishaw: arbitrary
[02:11] <kevin> apokryphos, woops
[02:11] <Miles_Prower> I have a silly question: i'd need to find a computer connected to my wifi hotspot... I got the IP adress but i'd like to find out the physical location. Any clue on how to do this?
[02:12] <ompaul> intellig1, install openssh-server on ubuntu and install putty on that other thing
[02:13] <dli> Miles_Prower, if you don't want to share, just block it :(
[02:13] <mp3guy> found a solution apokryphos, for azureus, in options>files "incremental file creation (required for fat32 under linux)"
[02:13] <dli> Miles_Prower, theoretically, you can call police
[02:13] <_james_> ompaul: how can I get xchat to hide any attempts to show my IP when someone types /dns _james_ ?
[02:13] <andi5> Miles_Prower: physical location? mini-gps? ;-) ... or better: galileo
[02:13] <apokryphos> mp3guy: nice
[02:13] <Miles_Prower> I have no problem with sharing, I just want to walk to the guy and say "hello" :p
[02:13] <ompaul> get a cloak
[02:13] <apokryphos> mp3guy: if there's no option like that on ktorrent, I really recommend filing a bug report
[02:13] <apokryphos> mp3guy: http://bugs.kde.org
[02:14] <_james_> ompaul: when I type /dns ompaul it says: Host ubuntu/member/ompaul not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)!  How can I get mine to do the same please?
[02:14] <aragogando> Hi I am trying to run the live cd and my usb mouse doesn't work but on FC which is installed on the computer it works just fine.  Any ideas?
[02:14] <spades> Miles_Prower go around the place acting like publishers clearing house winner and make them confirm how theyre connected to the net
[02:14] <andi5> Miles_Prower: redirect port 80 for him ;-)
[02:14] <_james_> ompaul: how do I get a cloak like you have?
[02:14] <ompaul> _james_, get a cloak - check it out on www.freenode.net
[02:14] <WarOfAttrition> bootsplash isn't that slow - it looks nice
[02:14] <apokryphos> !cloak
[02:14] <ubotu> I know nothing about cloak
[02:14] <_james_> ompaul: can I get it for Breezy?
[02:14] <dli> Miles_Prower, not easily for most wireless routers (not flexible enough)
[02:14] <apokryphos> !hostmask
[02:14] <ubotu> To get your own hostmask cloak, read this http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[02:14] <Miles_Prower> spades, lol
[02:15] <Miles_Prower> Yeah dli, his ping cannot even give me a clue to about the distance
[02:15] <_james_> ompaul: can a beginner install it?
[02:15] <Miles_Prower> It's like, totally randomn
[02:15] <ompaul> _james_, to get this one you need to be marked as a ubuntu member on launchpad - there is a whole process around it - found on the agenda page for the Community Council on the wiki
[02:15] <dli> Miles_Prower, use your wireless as the router, (hostap), you can route that IP to a default page, say, " Hello, call me to register"
[02:15] <Miles_Prower> andi5, redirect port 80 to my comp with a webpage saying "hi" could be fun yeah
[02:16] <ompaul> _james_, it is not installed by you - it is set up by the people in freenode
[02:16] <apokryphos> _james_: anyone is entitled to an @unaffiliated/something cloak though (see the link above)
[02:16] <Miles_Prower> Hm i'll need to install a webserver on my PC for this then, lol
[02:16] <andi5> lol
[02:17] <ompaul> eternaljoy, apokryphos has a better answer -= the url is www.freenode.com
[02:17] <andi5> write a static one with python ;-)
[02:17] <eternaljoy> ompaul:  ok
[02:17] <aragogando> Does anyone have any ideas why my mouse working in Fedora Core, but not Ubuntu?
[02:17] <Miles_Prower> My last programming experience was on a C128 and i was freakin young, I have no clue about python ^^;
[02:18] <andi5> aragogando: does you mouse wear a red .... hat?
[02:18] <intellig1> I just downloaded the drivers for my graphics card, an nVivida TNT2. It tells me in the system documentation to type sudo nvidia-glx config enable, but that doesn't do anything.
[02:18] <albatrozz> Can anyone help me with an installation issue?
[02:18] <intellig1> It says "sudo: nvidia-glx: command not found"
[02:18] <aragogando> lol nope wears many hats
[02:18] <skrummm> agghhhhh
[02:18] <skrummm> didn't work
[02:18] <gumpish> ok, so I have PXE boot working and have the installer running on the target machine - how do I get the installer to use the CD-ROM in the DHCP/TFTP server as an installation source?
[02:19] <jrib> intellig1: it should say 'nvidia-glx-config' not 'nvidia-glx config'
[02:19] <WarOfAttrition> intellig1: I'm not sure but I think the linux nvidia driver doesn't support that far back
[02:19] <skrummm> alright, i need to repair xserver, how do i go about doing this?
[02:19] <andi5> aragogando: one definite way is always to copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf.... :) ... ok, correct font paths and alike, but i rocked a lot of distros this way :)
[02:19] <intellig1> Then it is an error in the documentation.
[02:19] <^richiefrich> albatrozz ?
[02:19] <intellig1> It does.
[02:19] <paradise> ompaul: will it work with xchat 2.4.4?
[02:19] <WarOfAttrition> I tried it on an old nvidia vanta card, and the drivers don't support it
[02:19] <Miles_Prower> Hm port 80 's already forwarded to another comp > VNC Oo
[02:19] <aragogando> It is a plain jane USB mouse and currently have FC installed on this box but heard how great ubuntu was so wanted to check it out, so have the live cd
[02:19] <cougem> hey grubs
[02:19] <Edvinas> how to change picture size through "gimp"
[02:20] <skrummm> edv: right click, image, scale image
[02:20] <^richiefrich> Edvinas in the menu
[02:20] <roostishaw> how do i install php?
[02:20] <intellig1> I got an error, hold on...
[02:20] <andi5> aragogando: strange, i did not expect ubuntu to have problems with mice...
[02:20] <^richiefrich> sudo apt-get install php
[02:20] <^richiefrich> roostishaw  sudo apt-get install php
[02:20] <apokryphos> roostishaw: /msg ubotu php
[02:20] <ompaul> paradise, it is nothing to do with the client it is server side
[02:21] <intellig1> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16903
[02:21] <roostishaw> ^richiefrich, 'package not found'
[02:21] <skrummm> !xserver
[02:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about xserver
[02:21] <skrummm> agh
[02:21] <anosa> i have 1 onboard soundcard (ac97) and i have creative SB soundcard on my system, the first one is working but the other one is not working , can somebody help me.. please
[02:21] <^richiefrich> roostishaw  sudo apt-get search  php
[02:21] <Miles_Prower> I wonder if my laptop's built-in wifi (Centrino) can act as a hotspot?
[02:21] <apokryphos> ^richiefrich: apt-cache
[02:21] <andi5> anosa: are they muted?
[02:21] <jrib> intellig1: did you read what it says?
[02:21] <aragogando> okay thanks, guess i will hunt up a ps2 mouse and see if it likes that better
[02:21] <roostishaw> sudo apt-get install php5
[02:22] <roostishaw> thanks though
[02:22] <intellig1> Yes. Did I understand what it says? No.
[02:22] <albatrozz> I'm trying to install to a single drive on an IDE channel, but Ubuntu tries to put grub on the boot sector of one of my RAID drives.  How do I get it to ignore those drives and just put the loader on the same drive as the installation?
[02:22] <^richiefrich> ahh there u go
[02:22] <anosa> no,
[02:22] <andi5> aragogando: i am sorry, but maybe that helps :)
[02:22] <anosa> i'm now using my ac97
[02:22] <F0LL0W3R> anosa try to check the bios to disable the built-in one
[02:22] <skrummm> apok, know how to repair/reinstall xserver?
[02:22] <aragogando> just figured i would see if there were any known issues before i wasted a bunch of time on this.... ;-)
[02:22] <andi5> anosa: so what does "does not work" mean? it contains exactly as many information as if you said... it fails ;-)
[02:22] <eternaljoy> hi
[02:23] <andi5> s/many/much/
[02:23] <anosa> but my creative won't work when i plug my speaker cable into it
 yea how could two sound drive work at the same time :)
[02:23] <jrib> intellig1: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the config file that needs to be edited.  The program believes that yours has been modified, you can change the driver from nv to nvidia manually by editing the file with a text editor
[02:23] <anosa> i mean i can't hear any sound from my creastive SB
 should only one works
[02:23] <paradise> ompaul: I did what instructions said, and linked 2 nicks etc, yet its not working! Any advice?
[02:24] <howy424> hey folks, I'm back and now using ubuntu!
[02:24] <intellig1> How should I edit it, jrib?
[02:24] <anosa> yes, but i want my creative SB soundcard the one which works
[02:24] <andi5> anosa: well, one application will only play to once specified sound card by default, i guess
[02:24] <jrib> intellig1: there should be a line that says Driver nv, just change that to Driver nvidia
[02:24] <ompaul> paradise, it is a freenode issue not a ubuntu one - may I suggest that you ask in ##anything
[02:25] <intellig1> Ok.
[02:25] <paradise> ompaul: you may not
[02:25] <ompaul> paradise, then I will say your offtopic for here
[02:25] <F0LL0W3R> anosa so goto bios and on-board sound-drive make the value disabled
[02:26] <anosa> F0LL0W3R: anosa so goto bios and on-board sound-drive make the value disabled >> i'll check it first, thnx a lot
[02:26] <Pitersburgs> damn, finally Skype 1.3 for Linux with ALSA
[02:26] <niki> what's the console command to list a directories contents, but not files....like to make it only list the subdirectories of the current directory
 any time sure :)
[02:26] <anosa> ittekimasu...
[02:26] <davidmccabe> If "regenerating the font cache" has been going on for at least fifteen minutes and it's not using any CPU or IO, does that mean it's toast?
[02:26] <ompaul> Pitersburgs, in a deb yet?
[02:26] <BHSPitMonkey_> hi
[02:26] <Pitersburgs> http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html
[02:26] <hedonistic> Anyone willing to help me troubleshoot wireless problems?
[02:26] <BHSPitMonkey_> when I return my laptop from Suspend mode, the display shows vertical brown stripes, and the system is completely frozen
[02:26] <andi5> niki: one way: "find . -type d"
[02:27] <BHSPitMonkey_> thoughts?
[02:27] <paradise> ompaul: :)
[02:27] <mp3guy> all my columns in azureus are now broken
[02:27] <F0LL0W3R> why kopete doesnt support audio conversation ?
[02:27] <wastrel> BHSPitMonkey_:  what video card do you have?
[02:27] <spades> BHSPitMonkey_ try hitting alt f7 or ctrl alt f7 and see if it needed to jump back into gnome
[02:27] <niki> andi5, i only want a list of the directories in the current directories, not all recursive directories...know a way to do that?
[02:27] <apokryphos> F0LL0W3R: because they don't have many active developers atm unfortunately
[02:27] <niki> like all folders in that folder
 aha ic so is there any progrman in ubuntu make that stuff ?
[02:28] <ryanakca> is there a list of good linux games?
[02:28] <intellig1> It is saying I do not have permission to alter the file.
[02:28] <andi5> niki: i see, gimme a moment
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey_> wastrel: an intel one (typical of dell)
[02:28] <apokryphos> F0LL0W3R: well, you can use skype.
[02:28] <BHSPitMonkey_> spades: tried that, and killing X, and everything... system completely unresponsive as I said
[02:28] <jrib> niki: what andi5 said but with -maxdepth 1 I think, maybe 0?
[02:29] <F0LL0W3R> apokryphos but i want it for msn contacts :)
[02:29] <andi5> jrib: thanks, i just remembered :)
[02:29] <apokryphos> F0LL0W3R: I *think* gaim 2.0 beta has that, but I'm not sure.
[02:29] <andi5> i guess 1
[02:29] <F0LL0W3R> apokryphos oic btw thx alot i will try :0
[02:30] <niki> jrib, that works...now a way to make that only show nonhidden files?  :D
[02:30] <hedonistic> I have a Dell E1505 laptop with a BCM4311 wireless card, downloaded a version of ndiswrapper that was different from the one in synaptic, network manager now recognizes wlan0 (active), and when I click on the network manager icon, I see my network SSID with a full signal bar, I try to connect, and no connection materializes (router is set to no security atm, but I've tried WPA and WEP without success as well) - Any suggestions?
[02:30] <jrib> intellig1: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   <-- be sure to make a backup first, because if something goes wrong you will be without X
[02:30] <brett_> Can anyone tell me how to start and manage an FTP server?  I just got FTPD server with synaptic, but it's not in any of th e menus
[02:30] <apokryphos> niki: pipe it into grep -v with './.'
[02:31] <andi5> niki: find . -name '[^.] *' -type d -maxdepth 1
[02:31] <NickGarvey> brett_: I don't know if you can manage that from a GUI
[02:31] <Adam_G> allo.. anyone familiar with grub? I can get to the grub shell, but grub-install doesn't work
[02:31] <NickGarvey> brett_: all ftp servers I have dealt with are CLI only
[02:31] <spades> hedonistic have you tried doing it via a terminal incase something is not working with the network manager?  iwconfig wlan0 essid $name and then dhclient wlan0
[02:32] <brett_> I'll start hitting the wiki...  can't be too tough
[02:32] <hedonistic> Yes I have, I'll try it once more though
[02:32] <apokryphos> !doesn't work
[02:32] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:32] <intellig1> Now what, just restart?
[02:32] <Adam_G> ahh... got to change a tire... bbl
[02:32] <alexicon> hey people, is there a LAME encoder for [k] ubuntu
[02:33] <andi5> alexicon: you mean a graphical frontend?
[02:33] <alexicon> ive got the kaudiocreator
[02:33] <alexicon> b ut it cant make an mp3
[02:33] <mjr> alexicon, in multiverse
[02:33] <jrib> intellig1: just restart X with ctrl-alt-backspace, that will close everything so save what you are working on first
[02:33] <alexicon> ok
[02:33] <alexicon> ffmpeg??
[02:33] <apokryphos> alexicon: huh? kaudiocreator can make mp3s just fine
[02:33] <mjr> in uni- or multiverse, don't recall
[02:34] <wastrel> niki:  you can do ls -F | grep \/$
[02:34] <andi5> alexicon: so what is wrong with the package lame?
[02:34] <spades> hedonistic also does dmesg have any conflicts at the end with anything wlan0 related as well, might be the driver or something
[02:34] <alexicon> hrm
[02:34] <alexicon> it just errored on the encoding
[02:34] <niki> wastrel, that works as well!  how do i make that a script so i can do it with one word?
[02:34] <alexicon> not giving anymore details really
[02:35] <luke> Now I've installed XGL and Compiz, XMMS looks really wierd. Any ideas please??
[02:35] <andi5> wastrel: yes, but if you start using it in a script you will want to remove the trailing slashes again and then you have a pipe again,... no easier then :)
[02:35] <wastrel> i dunno from script :] 
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> I just installed ubuntu dapper and I can't get sound from anything!  Sound worked fine in previous versions
[02:35] <tiglionabbit> can anyone help me?
[02:35] <alexicon> lol tiglionabbit i had the same problem. no one could help me
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> =[
[02:36] <alexicon> i just did a fresh install of kubuntu
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> I've got Soundblaster Live 5.1
[02:36] <andi5> ubotu, ubotu, does not work :)
[02:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu, does not work :)
[02:36] <alexicon> Kubuntu is awesome!!!!!!!!
[02:36] <alexicon> the install was so easy!!
[02:36] <bthornton> Is WPA2 compatible with 802.11g ?
[02:36] <alexicon> yeah says the encoder is not found... i just got ffmpeg tho
[02:36] <alexicon> hrm
[02:36] <witless> i don't like kde much
[02:36] <tiglionabbit> well it's easy for ubuntu too, but what's up with this-- why doesn't my sound work anymore?
[02:37] <alexicon> tiglionabbit: nothing worked when i updated to dapper
[02:37] <alexicon> i gave up on that install and just went fresh
[02:37] <hedonistic> spade: dhclient returns: No DHCPOFFERS received.
[02:37] <hedonistic> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:37] <alexicon> are you on a laptop??
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> I'm using the livecd on my desktop
[02:37] <alexicon> hm
[02:37] <andi5> alexicon: what do you mean with encoder aso, asf? what about simple "apt-get install lame"?
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> I can't get it to play the sample ogg files
[02:37] <bthornton> ok I'm seeing how that's a dumb question; 802.11i = WPA2, correct?
[02:37] <alexicon> thanks andi5 i'll try apt
[02:37] <tiglionabbit> you guys probably want to install gstreamer-1.0-ugly or whatever it's called
[02:38] <FunkyDiscoMan> DefectiveByDesign.org, today call to sign the petition calling upon Bono  (U2), to stand against DRM.
[02:38] <FunkyDiscoMan> http://defectivebydesign.org/pressreleases
[02:38] <alexicon> lame not available :/
[02:38] <spades> hedonistic check your private messages :)
[02:38] <andi5> tiglionabbit: ogg is good :)
[02:38] <alexicon> ogg doesnt work on my muvo :'(
[02:38] <FunkyDiscoMan> ogg is good, flac is better
[02:38] <intelligi> Nvidia is working now.
[02:38] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: dude, search packages before you just try and apt-get something.  You have to spell it right
[02:38] <alexicon> i can only use mp3 and wmv D:
[02:38] <andi5> !tell alexicon about multiverse
[02:39] <alexicon> ive got multiverse
[02:39] <intelligi> Now if my computer stays like this, hopefully I won't have to alter/add much more.
[02:39] <Paladine> FunkyDiscoMan, this is the same Bono who ordered someone to take his private jet back accross the ocean to a concert venue he had been at the night before, to get his hat
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> anyway, grr.  Can anyone help me with soundblaster in dapper?
[02:39] <alexicon> tiglionabbit: how do i search on apt
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: apt-cache search, aptitude, or just use synaptic
[02:39] <andi5> tiglionabbit: what is wrong with "lame"?
[02:39] <alexicon> cheers
[02:39] <tiglionabbit> !info lame
[02:39] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[02:39] <Paladine> Bono is an uttermoron
[02:39] <FunkyDiscoMan> yup but the twat caused half the problem with his apple ads
[02:40] <tiglionabbit> oh, it's called that now?  okay
[02:40] <gnomefreak> Paladine: please bring that convo to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:40] <alexicon> indeed there is no more lame
[02:40] <alexicon> oh well
[02:40] <andi5> alexicon: and you apt-get update?
[02:40] <alexicon> i added the other repositories and adept doesnt see lame either
[02:41] <alexicon> only thing thats close is toolame but thats mpeg2
[02:41] <tiglionabbit> eh adept is pretty bad
[02:41] <alexicon> i like adept a lot more than synaptic :P
[02:41] <Tape> is there a decent alternative to GAIM?
[02:41] <ryanakca> is there a list of good linux games?
[02:41] <alexicon> kopete Tape
[02:41] <Tape> thanks
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: why?  It's horrible.  It doesn't manage dependencies well at all and breaks things
[02:42] <alexicon> heh well only got it today
[02:42] <alexicon> on the whole i LOVE kubuntu
[02:42] <yfox> hello :3
[02:42] <alexicon> where ubuntu was constantly falling to pieces on me
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> get synaptic if you don't want to break things
[02:42] <andi5> alexicon: falling to pieces?
[02:42] <yfox> anyone friendly willing to help me get my repositories right
[02:42] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: um, how?
[02:42] <alexicon> that dist-update for one
[02:42] <alexicon> broke absolutely everything
[02:43] <pjfc> does anyone know how I determine what version of xserver I am running?
[02:43] <alexicon> anyway i get loads of broken packages with synaptic as well
[02:43] <alexicon> i prefer qt loads more than gtk anyway
[02:43] <andi5> alexicon: you mean dist-upgrade?
[02:43] <alexicon> can get a lot more information from adept about each package as well
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: how could you get broken packages with synaptic?
[02:43] <alexicon> yeah andi5
[02:43] <alexicon> i have no idea tiglionabbit but i got them :P
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> alexicon: all of that information is available in synaptic as well
[02:43] <tiglionabbit> try right-clicking
[02:43] <roostishaw> what command do i use to install mysql?
[02:43] <alexicon> dpkg -f upgrade is my best friend
[02:43] <alexicon> lol
[02:43] <alexicon> anyway i gotta run
[02:44] <roostishaw> there are too many choises in synaptic
[02:44] <alexicon> than ks for your help anyway
[02:44] <yfox> in which repository can i find the package madwifi-source
[02:44] <andi5> alexicon: there is no substantial difference between kubuntu and ubuntu.... dist-upgrade _should_ work equally good in both distros, imho
[02:44] <alexicon> the install for kubuntu was brilliant!
[02:44] <tiglionabbit> uh okay.  Anyway, sound!  How do I make it work?
[02:44] <alexicon> anyway i gota run byebye
[02:44] <albatrozz> Can anyone tell me how to configure which partition GRUB installs to during installation?  Or, alternatively, how to install GRUB after the fact, from the Live CD, since Ubuntu is already installed.
[02:44] <yfox> help help help :(
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> albatrozz: grub should install to the partition marked as /boot
[02:45] <pjfc> yfox: help with what?
[02:45] <yfox> in which repository can i find the package madwifi-source :(
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> !info madwifi-source
[02:45] <ubotu> Package madwifi-source does not exist in dapper
[02:45] <yfox> it says package not found D:
[02:45] <tiglionabbit> !info madwifi
[02:45] <ubotu> Package madwifi does not exist in dapper
[02:45] <yfox> oh shit
[02:45] <albatrozz> You'd think so, but overwrote the boot sector of my RAID array.. I had to use the XP recovery console to repair it..
[02:45] <paradise> anyone help me set up a cloak?
[02:46] <andi5> yfox: why do you need the source?
[02:46] <yfox> trying to install madwifi-ng :/
[02:46] <Trae> how can I create a file that's 500M ?
[02:46] <thomaswebb> hello, i have a small problem, i am trying to ./configure gset-compiz but it says: checking for LIBGLADE... configure: error: No libglade-2.0 package information found, but i know libglade2/0 is installed
[02:46] <Trae> just need it for testing
[02:46] <paradise> whats the latest xchat?
[02:46] <F0LL0W3R> how can i make link for vfat partition to be appeared on the desktop ?
[02:46] <Trae> don't really care what is in the file.
[02:46] <yfox> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi
[02:46] <Trae> paradise, xchat.org
[02:46] <paradise> is xchat 2.4.4 old?
[02:46] <yfox> Installation (with module-assistant) 
[02:46] <andi5> Trae: dd if=/dev/zero of=$file bs=1m count=500  .... man dd can help you
[02:46] <cyphase> can someone get Nexuiz into the repositories?
[02:47] <cyphase> :)
[02:47] <smacky_wolf> Hey guys. I'm trying to watch a protected DVD, and when I go to use the .sh script for libdvdread, it tells me no .deb is available. I use 64bit arch, so what can I do, as it just hangs and fails to do anything
[02:47] <wastrel> what's that?
[02:47] <cyphase> a game
[02:47] <cyphase> http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/
[02:47] <thomaswebb> yfox, was that to me?
[02:47] <pjfc> Is anyone out there using an nvidia card on their ubuntu linux installation?
[02:47] <cyphase> http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/
[02:47] <cyphase> pjfc: me
[02:47] <Knome> pjfc: I am
[02:47] <cyphase> and a lot of other people
[02:47] <thomaswebb> pjfc me
[02:47] <yfox> yeah anyone who can help :B
[02:48] <yfox> thomaswebb
[02:48] <cyphase> pjfc, what's up?
[02:48] <andi5> pjfc: me
[02:48] <Tmob> anyone here run ubuntu on a dell laptop? (D410 perferably?) i can't get it to hibernate/suspend properly.. after i power them on, the X hangs up
[02:48] <smacky_wolf> pjfc, I am
[02:48] <paradise> how can I install the latest xchat for breexy?
[02:48] <smacky_wolf> paradise: Did you want the one in the repos, or a nEW xchat?
[02:48] <thomaswebb> yfox, i am not sure what you mean?
[02:48] <hedonistic> I have a Dell E1505 laptop with a BCM4311 wireless card, downloaded a version of ndiswrapper that was different from the one in synaptic, network manager now recognizes wlan0 (active), and when I click on the network manager icon, I see my network SSID with a full signal bar, I try to connect, and no connection materializes (router is set to no security atm, but I've tried WPA and WEP without success as well) - Any suggestions?
[02:49] <Expedia> Good bye everyone!!! :)
[02:49] <yfox> trying to do the Installation (with module-assistant) on http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Debian/MadWifi thomaswebb
[02:49] <pjfc> knome: after update installed the kernel 2.6.15-25-386, xserver won't load can use vesa to get it to load. nvidia still works with earlier kernel. Any ideas?
[02:49] <paradise> smacky_wolf: whats diff?
[02:49] <vader1102> hedonistic, try doing this, sudo dhclient wlan0 and see what happens
[02:49] <paradise> smacky_wolf: how can I install the latest xchat for breexy?
[02:50] <Knome> pjfc: nope not now sorry
[02:50] <andi5> paradise: well, where can i download breexy?
[02:50] <pjfc> Knome: thanks.  Are you using that kernel version?
[02:50] <paradise> andi5: troll
[02:50] <smacky_wolf> Paradise, do you actually want a newer version not available in the repos, or do you just wnat xchat?
[02:50] <andi5> ahh, you mean breezy?
[02:50] <paradise> can someone tell me how I can install the latest xchat? im using 2.4.4 atm
[02:50] <paradise> smacky_wolf: whats diff?
[02:51] <Knome> pjfc: I haven't paid attention to that actually
[02:51] <andi5> paradise: compile it in your home directory
[02:51] <smacky_wolf> paradise: sudo apt-get install xchat
[02:51] <Flannel> andi5: paradise to get the latest, you'll probably have to upgrade to dapper.  Each release of ubuntu sticks to a particular software release
[02:51] <Flannel> paradise: unless you want to compile yourself.
[02:51] <hedonistic> vader1102: The last two lines return -> No DHCPOFFERS received. No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.
[02:51] <spades> i got xchat 2.6.0 on breezy
[02:51] <smacky_wolf> flannel: i don't think he really wants a different version to the rpo
[02:52] <spades> might be in a diff repo
[02:52] <tiglionabbit> =[  soundblaster not working.  Anyone?
[02:52] <pjfc> knome: perhaps for a later conversation...check your menu.lst in the grub directory or take note next time you boot....it should tell you which kernel.
[02:52] <vader1102> hedonistic, I have the BCM4318 and have to use the bcmfwcutter package
[02:52] <paradise> smacky_wolf: when I type sudo apt-get install xchat it says newvset version already
[02:52] <andi5> dapper = 2.6.1, latest = 2.6.4, you are never on the bleeding edge
[02:53] <paradise> Flannel: how can I complile it myself?
[02:53] <karl> !azureus
[02:53] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[02:53] <marciofleury> good night for everybody!!! I'm new in linux and ubuntu and i have installed Ubuntu 5.10. What i have to do to update to the 6.06 version without doing other installation?? I can only substitute my source.list?????
[02:53] <Flannel> paradise: download the source, and compile it.
[02:53] <paradise> andi5: listen here troll! where can I get 2.6.4?
[02:53] <apokryphos> marciofleury: please read the FAQ
[02:53] <smacky_wolf> Hey guys. I'm trying to watch a protected DVD, and when I go to use the .sh script for libdvdread, it tells me no .deb is available. I use 64bit arch, so what can I do, as it just hangs and fails to do anything
[02:53] <hedonistic> vader, I followed a post on ubuntu forums to do just that and didn't have any luck...Network manager recognizes the card, the wifi led is on, ndiswrapper is installed, I just can't connect
[02:54] <andi5> paradise: the question is more why you need the latest version? are you sure 2.6.1 is not enough? and please, stop naming me a troll.... i tell you... google for xchat, click the first and goto download...
[02:54] <vader1102> what does dmesg say hedonistic
[02:54] <yfox> can anyone help me install madwifi-ng on xubuntu ?
[02:54] <vader1102> dies it give a link not ready?
[02:54] <marciofleury> thanks apokryphos!!! i'll try...
[02:54] <Paladine> smacky, there is a 64bit package for libdvdcss2
[02:54] <andi5> yfox: before i forget it... maybe #ubuntu-kernel can
[02:54] <yfox> okk
[02:54] <apokryphos> !faq > marciofleury
[02:55] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, that link?
[02:55] <hedonistic> vader, wlan0: no IPv6 routers present is the only relevant return
[02:55] <kaot> hedonistic: stupid question, and probably ineffective given known bcm driver troubles, but:  did you reboot the router?  maybe it's just....burped.
[02:55] <marciofleury> !faq
[02:55] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[02:55] <hedonistic> kaot, many times
[02:55] <kaot> k, just figgered i'd ask  :/
[02:55] <spades> hedonistic does ndiswrapper -l return driver and hardware present?
[02:55] <Paladine> smacky, I can't remember where I got it sec
[02:56] <hedonistic> spades, yes
[02:56] <paradise> andi5: I need latest to use cloaking
[02:56] <vader1102> hedonistic, what I have to do is sudo iwconfig eth1 ap any....
[02:56] <[Nige] > anyone know of a good dsl client?
[02:56] <paradise> andi5: 2.4.4 doesnt work with cloak
[02:56] <[Nige] > well adslclient
[02:56] <[Nige] > :)
[02:56] <vader1102> then I have to do the sudo dhclient eth1
[02:56] <andi5> kaot: ask these questions.... was not long ago the last time someone phoned me and asked why the internet does not work.... well, after you switch the usb port from wlan receiver to the camera, you should switch back sometime :)
[02:56] <kaot> lol
[02:56] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, search synaptic for libdvdcss2
[02:57] <spades> hedonistic does iwlist wlan0 scanning find your ap?
[02:57] <Paladine> it is maintained by Christian Marillat <marillat@debian.org>
[02:57] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, thanks
[02:57] <paradise> andi5: im at: http://xchat.org/download/ , but which one I get for breezy?
[02:57] <andi5> paradise: argggh, i forgot that you talked about breezy (you said breexy, do you remember).... download the source and follow the instructions (INSTALL or such), there is info
[02:57] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, I have it already
[02:57] <hedonistic> vader, i don't have an eth1, I should replace that with wlan0, right?
[02:57] <andi5> paradise: compiling is nontrivial
[02:58] <vader1102> yes hedonistic
[02:58] <paradise> andi5: define nontrivial
[02:58] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, what you using to play the dvd with?
[02:58] <Flannel> paradise: mind, however, that you might have to tweak the install a bit to get it to play nice with ubuntu, and it might not integrate as well as the virgin package.
[02:58] <paradise> andi5: do I get xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2  ?
[02:58] <pjfc> yfox: have you tried http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[02:58] <yfox> will have a look
[02:58] <paradise> Flannel: lets leave the virgins out of this ;)
[02:58] <Paladine> I can only get css dvds to play in xine and mplayer, so try one of those
[02:58] <paradise> Flannel: do I get xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2  ?
[02:58] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, Xine. I tried the others I have and they failed, too
[02:59] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, I had funky problems too, I got the solution from the ubu forums, but I can't remember what the solution was
[02:59] <hedonistic> spades, whats an AP? (sorry I'm new to this)
[02:59] <spades> hedonistic access point, your router
[02:59] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, OK, thanks. =3
[02:59] <vader1102> Access Point
[03:00] <smax> what program/play can play .asx format ?
[03:00] <hedonistic> spades, yes
[03:00] <smax> err player
[03:00] <Adam_G> okay, anyone familiar with Grub care to walk me through an install from the grub shell? Grub-install doesn't work and the docs are very esoteric...
[03:00] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, mplayer kept telling me I didn't have a css decrypter
[03:00] <[Nige] > !adsl
[03:00] <ubotu> Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ADSLPPPoE
[03:00] <spades> hedonistic also is your router set to give out dhcp and have enough open slots to offer?
[03:00] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, XINE does the same, and opthjers just creash
[03:00] <Paladine> there is a solution in the forums
[03:00] <Paladine> lemmie see if I can find it
[03:01] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, nvm, I can get it
[03:01] <apokryphos> Adam_G: have you read the information at /msg ubotu grub (they provide all the necessary information)
[03:01] <albatrozz> er, what's the password to su as root from the live cd?
[03:01] <apokryphos> albatrozz: please read the FAQ
[03:01] <Adam_G> no, I'll do that
[03:02] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, took me hours to ix the problem, wish I could remember what it was
[03:02] <andi5> paradise: i was searching for the unicode character for "not" ;-) ... well, download the source, then untar it (fileroller) somewhere in your /home/$user, then goto that directory, fakeroot ./configure ..... watch what it complains about... you will probably need build-essentials and libgnomeui-2.0-dev or such ... if you run it without errors, make and make install (with fakeroot), then check  "which xchat" ... should return /usr/local/bin/xchat
[03:02] <Paladine> but it was really annoying
[03:02] <kaot> albatrozz: there isn't one.  anything requiring root privs you just sudo.
[03:02] <paradise> andi5:  sudo apt-get build-dep xchat ; apt-get -b source xchat;
[03:02] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, sounds like a lot of problems 64bhit has =/
[03:02] <andi5> paradise: oh, bullshit, sorry..... only fakeroot before you "make install"
[03:02] <paradise> andi5: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat ; apt-get -b source xchat;
[03:02] <hedonistic> vader, your suggestion did not work
[03:02] <albatrozz> ok thanks
[03:02] <clparker> How can I make vino vnc server startup automatically without needing to login?
[03:02] <Adam_G> apokryphos: just read the howto in the /msg ubotu grub- that's exactly what's not working
[03:03] <Paladine> smacky, yeah it has caused be a few issues, finally getting the creases ironed out though
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> albatrozz: instead of saying su root, you can sudo -s
[03:03] <andi5> paradise: your decision .... rebuild 2.4.4, do whatever you want
[03:03] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, which other issues did you have?
[03:03] <albatrozz> Thanks :)
[03:03] <apokryphos> Adam_G: not working means almost nothing if you're not more specific ;-)
[03:03] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, the only problem I think I have now is stupid locale warning with Xlib
[03:03] <paradise> andi5: I download from source
[03:03] <apokryphos> tiglionabbit: sudo -i is the recommended method
[03:03] <hedonistic> spades, yes it is, I can connect fine in windows
[03:03] <Adam_G> "could not find device for /boot
[03:03] <tiglionabbit> oh, okay
[03:03] <Adam_G> but the grubb shell does work
[03:04] <andi5> paradise: maybe you should really dist-upgrade to dapper?
[03:04] <fdsd> Hey guys, I want to take every pkg out of ubuntu except what is needed to boot and run mount, awk, the command line utils and bash.. Anyone know how I can do this?
[03:04] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, the "locale is not supported by Xlib" warnings
[03:04] <apokryphos> Adam_G: ok, please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[03:04] <paradise> andi5: I downloaded xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2!  what next?
[03:04] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, Bite it. XD. I had major problems with EVERYTHING before I went to dapper. Sound never worked, video was screwed, and countless other things
[03:04] <Flannel> fdsd: install the server install, it only has ubuntu-base and ubuntu-minimal, then you can work down from there.
[03:04] <paradise> andi5: I cant, using a modem
[03:04] <spades> hedonistic have you tried setting a static ip on wlan0, disabling eth0, and pinging the router?
[03:04] <spades> this would kick you off irc tho
[03:04] <paradise> andi5: I downloaded xchat-2.6.4.tar.bz2 and extracted, next?
[03:04] <andi5> Paladine: beware, write UTF-8 in your lang env variables, as xlib does not know the abbs utf8 and alike, glibc uses
[03:04] <Adam_G> kk, doing now
[03:05] <fdsd> Flannel, do you know if there is a ubuntu livecd for ppc like that?
[03:05] <apokryphos> fdsd: there is, yes.
[03:05] <andi5> paradise: ./configure
[03:05] <Flannel> fdsd: a liveCD? what?
[03:05] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, sond is almost working properly for me now, still a few issues with the surround51 device in certain apps
[03:05] <fdsd> apokryphos, where can I get it?
[03:05] <Flannel> fdsd: Why do you want a liveCD?
[03:05] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, I had some serious problems with openoffice.org too
[03:05] <fdsd> Flannel, I am looking ot make my own live cd with no X11, just command line
[03:06] <fdsd> apokryphos, where can I find it
[03:06] <apokryphos> fdsd: sorry, I thought you just meant ubuntu live cd for ppc
[03:06] <hedonistic> spades, I'm not sure how to set a static ip on wlan0...
[03:06] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, everything magically "Just Worked" in dapper. There's somthing broken with my OpenOffice, too. It keeps whining about some plugins not working
[03:06] <paradise> andi5: ok! its doing something now./
[03:06] <andi5> fdsd: cannot you boot the live cd with parameter single? (i do not know)
[03:06] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, the problem with OOo was the pango stuff
[03:06] <Flannel> fdsd: oh.  Gotcha.  not an install.  Um, Theres a wiki page, about rolling your own liveCD, I believe.  But yeah, server installs ubuntubase and ubuntu-standard.  That's basically what youre looking for.  Just as a liveCD
[03:06] <paradise> andi5: do I type make now?
[03:06] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, was killing the font for Save As dialog
[03:07] <patrickj> for the ubuntu wine package, where does wine get installed ?
[03:07] <kaot> hedonistic: what does iwconfig show?
[03:07] <andi5> paradise: did it look good? last lines began with config.status: creating...?
[03:07] <fdsd> Flannel, can you point me to the ppc iso for that?
[03:07] <HBuzacott> patrickj, /usr/bin/wine
[03:07] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, =/
[03:07] <andi5> paradise: maybe enter "echo $?"
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: let me look
[03:07] <Flannel> fdsd: there is no liveCD server.
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: still going
[03:07] <paradise> andi5: ill let you know what last line is
[03:07] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, fixed it now, I use a 32 bit wraper script to make OOo use the correct libs and paths
[03:07] <HBuzacott> patrickj, the fake C drive is in ~/.wine/fake_c
[03:07] <patrickj> oh okay :P
[03:07] <kaot> hedonistic: also you can set static ip in system -> administration -> network
[03:08] <anosa> thnx for all who gave solutions for me, my creative SB is now workin', i mean i can hear the sound
[03:08] <hedonistic> kaot, it shows stuff under wlan0
[03:08] <fdsd> Flannel, okay ill look into it, thanks
[03:08] <element> how developed and how well supported is AMD64 ubuntu? I'm considering switching to it from windows...
[03:08] <patrickj> I know but im trying to put on the wow wine patch for 0.9.16
[03:08] <kaot> hedonistic: do you have an ESSID?
[03:08] <andi5> hey, why does documentation say you can click an "add" button in system->admin->network? there is NO
[03:08] <apokryphos> element: check the FAQ
[03:08] <hedonistic> kaot, yes
[03:08] <anosa> after i disable my onboard soundcard
[03:08] <Flannel> fdsd: however, there are other liveCDs that already do this.  You might try looking into premade solutions into rolling your own, but heres a link with some info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[03:08] <kaot> hm
[03:08] <element> apokryphos: I'd like some human feedback and experience results with it
[03:08] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, nice. I considered reinstalling everything in 32bit. FireFox is evil, so I am using an unsupported build my friend from MozDev made me
[03:08] <kaot> so you're talking to the AP
[03:08] <paradise> andi5: kast line said: onfigure complete, now type 'make' and pray.
[03:08] <paradise> andi5: type make now?
[03:09] <kaot> you've got an Access Point Mac there and all
[03:09] <clparker> How can I make vino vnc server startup automatically without needing to login?
[03:09] <apokryphos> element: the entry in the FAQ is written by a human, I assure you :). It outlines all the basic pros/cons, please read it :)
[03:09] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, FireFox 64 is unsupported. They won't make them usually.
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: sudo make or make ?
[03:09] <spades> hedonistic edit /etc/network/interfaces and put: iface wlan0 inet static // address 192.168.1.103 // netmask 255.255.255.252 // gateway 192.168.1.1    replace those with the proper addresses and then restart your networking daemon (sudo invokerc.d networking restart)
[03:09] <andi5> paradise: no, wait 5 minutes and ask each 5 seconds ;-)
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: what?
[03:09] <Adam_G> akay, apokryphos: http://pastebin.ca/76089
[03:09] <apokryphos> element: if you have more questions after that, please feel free to ask.
[03:09] <element> apokryphos: oooook, will do.
[03:09] <Paladine> smacky_wolf, I think I am the only person who like the lack of flash support in 64bit ff :) means I get no more annoying flash stuff on website bwahaha
[03:09] <Adam_G> sda1 is the drive I want to reinstall grub to
[03:09] <paradise> andi5: I typ\ed make
[03:09] <apokryphos> Adam_G: so....... sudo /sbin/grub
[03:10] <smacky_wolf> Paladine, adblock is beautiful =3
[03:10] <apokryphos> Adam_G: root (hd0,0)
[03:10] <Paladine> yeah I have adblock installed
[03:10] <spades> hedonistic backup /etc/network/interfaces so you can revert back to it and get back on irc if it dont work
[03:10] <edavis10> Paladine: I like the lack of flash in PPC also :)
[03:10] <apokryphos> Adam_G: setup (hd0)
[03:10] <Adam_G> okay...
[03:10] <patrickj> any idea where I put the wow_patch?
[03:10] <andi5> paradise: if it works "fakeroot make install"
[03:10] <element> apokryphos: how well supported is dual monitors? easy to setup?
[03:11] <andi5> paradise: well, maybe you need to be root.... so sudo make install
[03:11] <apokryphos> element: not officially supported, but you may well get it set up with xinerama.
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: I typed make
[03:11] <element> apokryphos: hmmm ok
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: and its doing something
[03:11] <apokryphos> element: see /msg ubotu xinerama for more info
[03:11] <paradise> andi5: should I instead have typed sudo make install?
[03:11] <element> apokryphos: ok thx
[03:12] <andi5> paradise: yes, it is a weird translator from one language we know a bit to a language we know very little
[03:12] <Paladine> hmmm I can smell burning paper
[03:12] <Adam_G> alright, apokryphos, looks like it worked... thanks for the help
[03:12] <Paladine> but it is 2am
[03:12] <Paladine> weird
[03:12] <apokryphos> Adam_G: np
[03:12] <Adam_G> hopefully I'll be back on from xubuntu soon :)
[03:12] <andi5> paradise: no, let it make.... first make, then install
[03:12] <apokryphos> checkinstall might be a better idea
[03:12] <paradise> andi5: notying was created
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished but no file was created
[03:13] <andi5> paradise: what do you mean with "no file was created"?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished, so now what?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: i dont see anything new
[03:13] <hedonistic> spades, that command didn't work to restart the networking daemon
[03:13] <andi5> paradise: yes, what do you expect, shall every start blinking?
[03:13] <andi5> apokryphos: how do you call checkinstall?
[03:13] <paradise> andi5: make finished, so now what?
[03:14] <spades> hedonistic try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:14] <paradise> andi5: whats next?
[03:14] <apokryphos> !checkinstall
[03:14] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[03:14] <apokryphos> andi5: basically you configure, make, then sudo checkinstall and it creates the deb for you
[03:14] <andi5> paradise: do not drive me crazy, please :) first: i have told you twice, now apokryphos made a better advice, but you seem to ignore everything :)
[03:15] <andi5> paradise: so.... sudo checkinstall seems to do it
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: if you're compiling you really should read the FAQ entry on it first.
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! whats my first step please?
[03:15] <dagrump_> i just spit beer on my monitor who needs tv
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: I did ./configure
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: first step is reading the FAQ :)
[03:15] <NickGarvey> paradise: less README
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: whats after that?
[03:15] <paradise> apokryphos: I read FAQ
[03:15] <apokryphos> paradise: then you'd know what to do
[03:15] <NickGarvey> paradise: or maybe less INSTALL
[03:16] <andi5> apokryphos: first step is to join #ubuntu and ask why xchat is not installed still....
[03:16] <kbrooks> andi5: you are HERE :-)
[03:16] <apokryphos> andi5: they took it out in dapper for gaim to be default irc client
[03:16] <wastrel> i have xchat
[03:16] <paradise> install: No such file or directory
[03:16] <kbrooks> apokryphos: no, wrong
[03:16] <NickGarvey> yeah, suse doesn't have xchat either
[03:16] <spades> paradise INSTALL, its case sensitive
[03:16] <andi5> apokryphos: oh, yes, breezy had xchat, right :) well, it is long ago i used xchat ;-)
[03:17] <kbrooks> apokryphos: they replaced it with xchat-gnome
[03:17] <apokryphos> kbrooks: erm, no....... dapper has no xchat on install.
[03:17] <hedonistic> spades is there a particular way to enter that information into the file?  it won't read it...I commented out iface wlan0 inet dhcp (with ##, right?)
[03:17] <dhan> who can help me how to save a doc. in a floopy disc??
[03:17] <andi5> kbrooks: what NEXT? ;-)
[03:17] <dhan> tanx!!
[03:17] <kbrooks> apokryphos: "xchat-gnome" read carefully
[03:17] <wastrel> i don't think there's any irc client on install
[03:18] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that
[03:18] <anosa> i love this channel
[03:18] <FunkyDiscoMan> lol
[03:18] <spades> hedonistic do you see a tab with my name on your bar, thats the private messages, see we can have direct no clutter convo :)
[03:18] <kbrooks> apokryphos: i didnt say xchat, i said ** ** ** xchat-gnome ** ** **
[03:18] <spiderbatdad> .anyone know how to completely purge enemy territory. can't find uninstall info in any of the docs.
[03:18] <tehbio> Can anyone connect to MSN through Gaim?
[03:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.06/ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.list search carefully
[03:18] <NickGarvey> tehbio: did you compile it yourself?
[03:18] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[03:18] <NickGarvey> MacSlow: hello :)
[03:18] <apokryphos> kbrooks: I didn't say *anything* about xchat-gnome, and I didn't say anything about being available anywhere else.
[03:18] <dhan> pls help me
[03:18] <tehbio> NickGarvey, No, it was also working fine earlier yesterday...
[03:18] <hedonistic> spades, no I don't
[03:18] <paradise> apokryphos: i downloaded xchat source! then ./configure and then make!  but nothings happened after that
[03:19] <dhan> i badlyy need your answers!!
[03:19] <smacky_wolf> Hey, has anyone used a Zen Creative with Ubuntu successfully?
[03:19] <andi5> spiderbatdad: sorry, _what_ do you want to do? :)
[03:19] <paradise> apokryphos: whats wrong?
[03:19] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell paradise about repeat
[03:19] <MacSlow> hi nicholaspaul
[03:19] <tehbio> NickGarvey, I can also connect to every other protocol.
[03:19] <gnomefreak> paradise: make install
[03:19] <NickGarvey> tehbio: hmm.. not sure, I am installing gaim now with ssl support so let me try when it works
[03:19] <MacSlow> hi NickGarvey rather
[03:19] <tehbio> NickGarvey, Alright.
[03:19] <wastrel> smacky_wolf:  yes, check here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250
[03:19] <spiderbatdad> andi5: uninstall enemy territory
[03:19] <paradise> gnomefreak: after i type .configure I type "sudo make install" ?
[03:19] <kbrooks> gaim sucks
[03:19] <NickGarvey> tehbio: compiling as we speak :)
[03:19] <OffHand> can anyone tell me how it is possible that my swap is mounted on the desktop while the fstab is set to none?
[03:19] <tehbio> kbrooks, What would you recommend?
[03:19] <andi5> spiderbatdad: ah.... that is a game?.... you installed via apt like every good debian/ubuntu guy?
[03:19] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: good for multi protocol stuff
[03:20] <gnomefreak> paradise: ,.configure <options>   than make than sudo make install
[03:20] <smacky_wolf> Wastrel, I connected my friends to my machine and it just went... "..Oh, sorry. You want to ACCESS this? ..I don't think so."
[03:20] <kbrooks> tehbio: i wasnt talking to u
[03:20] <gnomefreak> ./configure <options>
[03:20] <spiderbatdad> andi5: no wget http://
[03:20] <kbrooks> NickGarvey: i mean, i hear that gaim sucks for irc
[03:20] <paradise> gnomefreak: 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo make install ?
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: yup :)
[03:20] <andi5> spiderbatdad: i guess this is a bit to little information to get the full source ;-)
[03:20] <wastrel> smacky_wolf:  you have to install the current version of gnomad2, that forum post has instructions.
[03:20] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: I switched to xchat today
[03:21] <wastrel> i like xchat
[03:21] <smacky_wolf> Wastrel. Cool. Thanks. =3
[03:21] <gnomefreak> paradise: yes or instead of make install you can use sudo checkinstall
[03:21] <spades> hedonistic download http://www.3spades.net/interfaces and stick that in /etc/network  backup the current one, then edit to make sure if fits with how your router is setup and try restarting networking
[03:21] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok ty! ill try that
[03:21] <spiderbatdad> hoped someone had done it before. I can't find any uninstall info
[03:21] <andi5> spiderbatdad: sorry, i received only no wget http:// , to trailing slashes, no more
[03:22] <tehbio> Hurrah, WPA works!
[03:22] <NickGarvey> spiderbatdad: hmm.. yeah I'm not sure how to delete things that don't have make uninstall, just delete the bins and docs I'd say
[03:22] <paradise> gnomefreak: ./configure then make then sudo checkinstall
[03:22] <gnomefreak> paradise: but first install checkinstall
[03:22] <Paladine> Serenity, A Big Damn Movie...
[03:22] <kaot> hedonistic: or just use ifconfig manually  :/
[03:22] <andi5> gnomefreak: install: missing file operand \n Try `install --help' for more information. ;-)
[03:23] <spiderbatdad> OH...cant remeber the full address...got the info from ubuntu planet about three days ago
[03:23] <paradise> gnomefreak: checkintall was installed
[03:23] <NickGarvey> tehbio: works
[03:23] <tehbio> andi5, Thanks, it was a headache.
[03:23] <gnomefreak> andi5: huh?
[03:23] <tehbio> NickGarvey, Bah, are you using the beta?
[03:23] <spiderbatdad> seems like a fun game but my video card is too old
[03:23] <andi5> gnomefreak: you said install checkinstall :)
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak: Should I create a default set of package docs?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise: first ./configure  when thats done type make than when thats done sudo checkinstall
[03:24] <Adam_G> apokryphos: worked... I'm eternally grateful :)
[03:24] <kaot> what i'd love to know is if the router's getting a bad dhcp request or if it isn't getting one at all or if it is getting one and not offering or the card's just not receiving or what.  weird.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise:
[03:24] <andi5> package ... docs?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak:
[03:24] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok
[03:24] <apokryphos> Adam_G: :)
[03:24] <gnomefreak> paradise: yes
[03:24] <hedonistic> spades, so just copy that whole thing into the bottom of the interfaces file?  btw, I think I am in the private chat now
[03:24] <gnomefreak> andi5: he is building a package
[03:25] <spiderbatdad> andi5: thanks for help
[03:25] <andi5> gnomefreak: but he has compiled already, why does not he simply install it?
[03:25] <gnomefreak> andi5: ./configure is not a last step
[03:25] <tehbio> Is suspended the Windows equivalent of standby ?
[03:26] <paradise> gnomefreak: it said.. Done. The new package has been installed..! Whats next?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> andi5: normally there are a 2-4 steps after that
[03:26] <gnomefreak> paradise: it doesnt say heres the package use dpkg -i to install it?
[03:26] <spades> hedonistic you should create a new file, backup the old one with the interfaces file i uploaded and if the scheme is right with the internal ips then give it a shot
[03:26] <paradise> andi5: why did you mislead me?  what you told me to do was false as gnomefreak gave me the correct procedure
[03:26] <harryv> evening. now i've spent quite some time looking for the 'development' branch that is mentioned here: http://kortlink.dk/2u4f - no luck?!
[03:26] <__mikem> gnomefreak, usually when I am installing source packages, ./configure && make install (or whatever) does the trick
[03:27] <harryv> (what i mean is, where is info on it?)
[03:27] <andi5> paradise: what did you do different now?
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak: i messaged you what it said
[03:27] <paradise> andi5: I did step 2 and 3 diff to what you told me
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak way worked
[03:27] <gnomefreak> paradise: congrats you built xchat
[03:27] <paradise> gnomefreak: wow yipee :) my fist compliation! thanks :)
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: do i need to find the .deb and dpkg -i?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: i recommend checkinstall (i feel its better than make install) and it builds a deb
[03:28] <luke> i have lots of .desktop files in my Desktop folder, can I delete them?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: nope
[03:28] <andi5> gnomefreak: before i start to explode..... what did you tell him? i said: untar, configure, make, sudo make install.... .... ...
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: thats great!  checkinstall is good
[03:28] <paradise> gnomefreak: do I now close xchat and reload it?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> paradise: if you removed the xchat you had your ready to use the new one
[03:29] <ryanakca> luke: if you don't need them, sure...
[03:29] <paradise> gnomefreak: im using the old one now!  shall I close it and remove it?
[03:29] <__mikem> I prefere irssi
[03:29] <gnomefreak> paradise: try to close this one and run xchat find out if right version
[03:29] <luke> ryanakca: do you know what they are?
[03:29] <paradise> gnomefreak: ok brb
[03:30] <ryanakca> Luke: I believe they're "shortcuts" for kde...
[03:30] <luke> ooh ok ty
[03:30] <eternaljoy> hi
[03:30] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: you are a legend, it works well
[03:31] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: xchat?>
[03:31] <vvarder> does anyone know of a repository for a Ubuntu Dapper build of 0.19?  I was running 0.18 out of multiverse but I upgraded the backend and would rather use 0.19
[03:31] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: it now says xchat 2.6.4
[03:31] <element> apokryphos: is it possible to use x86 ubuntu on my 64bit AMD processor?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: im glad it works
[03:31] <__mikem> element yes you can
[03:31] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: i simply closed the xchat and reloaded and it loads xchat 2.6.4 now instead of 2.4.4
[03:31] <element> __mikem: are there any conflicts?
[03:31] <apokryphos> element: it is, yes.
[03:31] <hedonistic> spades, can you check the private chat?
[03:31] <__mikem> I have an amd64 and I use ubuntu all the time
[03:32] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: do I need to remove 2.4.4?
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: will I lose a lot of performance on it?
[03:32] <dagrump_> theeeereeee baaaaaack!!!  lol
[03:32] <apokryphos> element: as the article says, some.
[03:32] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: no you dont but you can
[03:32] <spades> hedonistic type something back so i know you can see it in the private chat
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: hmmm ok, I'm willing to sacrafice that in order for it to *WORK*
[03:32] <element> apokryphos: because I really need something taht WORKS
[03:32] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: do you use xchat?
[03:32] <hedonistic> spades, I did
[03:32] <hedonistic> spades, I guess you don't see it though...
[03:32] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: nope not in a long time
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: also, which article are you speaking of? I couldn't find it...
[03:33] <apokryphos> element: 64bit "works" quite perfectly, it's an officially supported architecture, and I've used it for months.
[03:33] <apokryphos> !faq > element
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: no issues at all with it?
[03:33] <spades> hedonistic i dont see anything from you there, duno whats up
[03:33] <spades> hedonistic you have aim?
[03:33] <apokryphos> element: only things are what are said there :)
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: I have a little bit of linux exp, but not enough to run into problems and fix them easily.
[03:33] <janitor61> hi can anyone help on installer freezing issues?
[03:33] <element> apokryphos: okie, I'll read it over now.
[03:33] <hedonistic> k, yes, thats what I'm accessing this through
[03:33] <eternaljoy> andi5: learn from gnomefreak before you give out false information next time please
[03:33] <__mikem> element, I have NEVER had any problems with ubuntu on my computer, then again I am running it through vmware.
[03:34] <spades> hedonistic message me @ iam3spades
[03:34] <element> __mikem: lol nice.
[03:34] <apokryphos> element: it's not a case of problems, it's a case of things that aren't physically possible on amd64. If they are things that bother you, then....
[03:34] <andi5> man, i desparately need irc ignore functionality
[03:34] <element> apokryphos: depends what those things are.
[03:34] <hedonistic> spades, says user not logged in...
[03:34] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: thanks again!  I wrote those 3 steps down so next time I can download the source and compile and install :)
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: check your message from ubuntu, he will give you the link to the FAQ
[03:35] <element> apokryphos: yeah, looks like I'm going x86
[03:35] <andi5> oh... there may be... checking
[03:35] <janitor61> is there a known problem with SATA drives in the installer?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> andi5: thats easy but this will all stop
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: or here:
[03:35] <apokryphos> !faq
[03:35] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[03:35] <spades> hedonistic on aim or irc?
[03:35] <element> apokryphos: yup, reading it over now...I need flash, I need WINE, and I need w32 codecs (for work)....so yeah, I'll be forced to go x86
[03:35] <hedonistic> spades, sorry, I thought you said gaim
[03:35] <apokryphos> element: right
[03:35] <spades> hedonistic gaim is aim, just using aim protocol contact me :P
[03:36] <eternaljoy> andi5: next time tell people to download xchat source, then 1. ./configure 2. make 3. sudo checkinstall
[03:36] <element> apokryphos: there's no multilib support such as what gentoo has for 32bit apps?
[03:36] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: yw those are basic functions to building froma tar.gz you can get into ./configure with as many options as it has
[03:36] <eternaljoy> andi5: simple as that
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: it's a shame Ubuntu isn't BiArch, really (as some other Linux distros). AMD64s are made to be perfectly compatible with 32bit libs
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: on debian/ubuntu unfortunately not, no.
[03:36] <element> apokryphos: any future support for this planned?
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: will those 3 steps work with any sources as well?
[03:36] <Healot> well, edgy going to be multiarc
[03:36] <apokryphos> element: yes :), but it might be quite some time.
[03:36] <gnomefreak> eternaljoy: pretty much
[03:36] <eternaljoy> gnomefreak: ok
[03:36] <apokryphos> Healot: not necessarily, no.
[03:36] <andi5> gnomefreak: i am sorry, it is really frustrating, no matter what i tell, i am the troll and lie and try to mislead ... the only thing i am not accused of is to be atheistic (being true of course ;-)) ... see you
[03:36] <eternaljoy> see ya gnomefreak , ty again
[03:37] <gnomefreak> anddont fret it
[03:37] <kbrooks> easyubuntu will not di out
[03:37] <gnomefreak> andi5: dont fret it
[03:37] <Healot> and gentoo is already supporting multiarch
[03:37] <kbrooks> ever
[03:37] <nixbox> hi all
[03:37] <andi5> gnomefreak: will try :)
[03:37] <wastrel> hi
[03:37] <kbrooks> not even when edgy is out
[03:37] <janitor61> hi
[03:37] <nixbox> whats the gui tool to enable XDMCP in gnome?
[03:37] <ardchoille> nixbox: hi
[03:37] <apokryphos> Healot: and suse has been supporting it since 9.3, yeah 8)
[03:38] <hedonistic> spades, argh, i click the IM icon in the buddies list screen, type in iam3spades, a tab with your screen name appears, I type, and it says user not logged in
[03:38] <zcat[1] > is there a wat to automatically change backgrounds every half hour in gnome?
[03:38] <zcat[1] > *way
[03:38] <apokryphos> kbrooks: what are you talking about?
[03:38] <Healot> apokryphos: why do you give a damn about multiarch anyways, Windows has done that since Windows 95
[03:38] <janitor61> my ubuntu wont install :(
[03:38] <__mikem> init 0 is bad, it will just keep rebooting forever
[03:38] <Healot> Linux world sucks sometimes...
[03:38] <kbrooks> apokryphos: the common customizationsspec
[03:38] <spades> hedonistic if you have multiple protocols, did you make it so it uses your aim nick?
[03:38] <wastrel> whats multiarch
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: multiarch is very good
[03:39] <kdegel> anyone have the microsoft 4000 keyboard?
[03:39] <__mikem> HEalot why's that?
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: why? Because it's damn useful.
[03:39] <kbrooks> Healot: language
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: I think its very important
[03:39] <wastrel> zcat[1] :  i bet you could write a quick script and cron i
[03:39] <kbrooks> apokryphos: is "damn" a bad ord?
[03:39] <apokryphos> no
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: its the main reason I use suse 10.1 instead of dapper
[03:39] <Healot> define useful...
[03:39] <hedonistic> spades, I'm a complete gaim newbie (this is my first time using both irc and gaim), so I'm not sure how to do that
[03:39] <kbrooks> apokryphos: how come
[03:39] <zcat[1] > wastrel: probably.. was hoping for something easier like a package...
[03:39] <__mikem> kbrooks, technically he didn't say anything that can get him banned
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: being able to have 32bit apps ready and waiting when I want them.
[03:39] <apokryphos> Healot: without the hassle of a chroot
[03:39] <NickGarvey> Healot: I can use wine, I can use flash, I can listen w32codecs
[03:40] <kbrooks> wtf is multiarch?
[03:40] <garryF> We are just people here, not net cops.
[03:40] <zcat[1] > flash 8 /
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: now that is language :)
[03:40] <garryF> ya
[03:40] <zcat[1] > shockwave?
[03:40] <hedonistic> spades, I don't have a regular aim account if thats what you mean though...I have a google chat account thats it
[03:40] <Healot> that's why say Linux world sucks sometimes...
[03:40] <kbrooks> apokryphos: no, "f" can mean anything
[03:40] <__mikem> OH, I guess he has
[03:40] <wastrel> kbrooks:  i'm gathering that it lets you run both 32 and 64 bit apps on a 64 bit kernel (?)
[03:40] <garryF> Its shockwaving!
[03:40] <spades> hedonistic that would explain it
[03:40] <NickGarvey> wastrel: close enough ;)
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: multi = multiple; arch = architectures. Being able to have multiple arch packs on one system.
[03:40] <Healot> there are always reasons to hate linux and yet you guys still use it :)
[03:40] <Healot> ironically
[03:40] <apokryphos> kbrooks: please don't play stupid, we know exactly what the common acronym means.
[03:41] <spades> hedonistic in your irc window, try /msg spades hi
[03:41] <NickGarvey> hedonistic: you need to be identified (/msg nickserv help identify)
[03:41] <garryF> I hate cleaning house but I still do it.
[03:41] <zcat[1] > Healot: the only things I find lacking in Linux are lacking only because microsoft or hardware vendors make them so...
[03:41] <hedonistic> spades, done, twice...
[03:41] <apokryphos> Healot: what are you talking about? There are Linux distros that support it perfectly.
[03:41] <__mikem> Healot please stop trolling. Linux is our OS, we use it because we like it, you can't badmouth our OS
[03:41] <janitor61> so theres no way to install ubuntu on a sata drive?
[03:41] <__mikem> lol
[03:41] <__mikem> actually its our Kernel,
[03:41] <Healot> and multiarch support... but that's about it...
[03:41] <kbrooks> __mikem: of course Healot can badmouth linux
[03:41] <hedonistic> should I just sign up for an aim account real quick?
[03:41] <__mikem> but
[03:42] <__mikem> o well
[03:42] <Healot> but I don't hate linux either
[03:42] <garryF> Ubuntu recognizes sata drives. I don't see why it would not work.
[03:42] <wastrel> i hate linux on a weekly basis
[03:42] <Healot> I want to make it better
[03:42] <spades> hedonistic i wouldnt bother with it if you arent going to use it passed today
[03:42] <wastrel> and i've been using it for going on 10 years
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wastrel: ;)
[03:42] <janitor61> the installer just freezes at "select a disk"
[03:42] <__mikem> Healot, then find some source code and improve on it
[03:42] <kbrooks> wastrel: hate, hate, hate, eh?
[03:42] <NickGarvey> wastrel: love hate relationship
[03:42] <kbrooks> __mikem: umm
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Healot: can bad mouth ubuntu/linux or anything else he wants in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <kbrooks> __mikem: there are other ways of contributing
[03:42] <janitor61> & i've been googling and people have the problem but theres no recourse
[03:43] <zcat[1] > anyhow...
[03:43] <__mikem> Yeh, theres reporting bugs also
[03:43] <garryF> Hmmm, strange. I wonder if it's doing something that just takes a long time
[03:43] <wastrel> this week i'm hating linux because firefox keeps crashing on flash player pages
[03:43] <kbrooks> __mikem: changing source code isnt the only way
[03:43] <zcat[1] > wastrel: to hate the flash plugin that causes it to crash..
[03:43] <hedonistic> spades, k, anyhow I copied the text from the link and pasted it into the etc/net/interfaces file (deleting what was previously there), was that what I was supposed to do?
[03:43] <zcat[1] > *so
[03:43] <Healot> i believe strong support would help elevate Linux use...
[03:43] <janitor61> well i shut it off after 5 minutes and no disk/hdd activity
[03:43] <wastrel> zcat[1] :  meh it's easier to hate the whole thing :] 
[03:44] <janitor61> is there a text based installer i can use besides this live cd stuff?
[03:44] <Healot> source code is one thing... but not the only way to do it
[03:44] <Healot> janitor61: alternate install CD
[03:44] <kbrooks> are there 521 weeks in 10 years
[03:44] <zcat[1] > wastrel: what you hate isn't linux.. in this example it's a closed-source binary causing you trouble.
[03:44] <spades> hedonistic it would have been better to back the old one up, but it can be traced back no problem, the one i pasted for you will disable eth0, so if it doesnt work, make sure the eth0 line is set to dhcp and doesnt start with # and then restart networking to get eth0 back
[03:44] <__mikem> Healot, I guess my point is, talking about wanting to make it better isn't going to do so, actually doing something might
[03:44] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : dont be pedantic, dammit
[03:44] <hedonistic> spades, I did back it up
[03:44] <__mikem> !language
[03:44] <wastrel> heh
[03:44] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:45] <kbrooks> sry
[03:45] <Healot> __mikem: I am doing something, my company support ubuntu professionally
[03:45] <janitor61> all right i'll try the alternate thanks
[03:45] <Healot> but still received too many complain from migrators
[03:45] <garryF> !computers
[03:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[03:45] <kbrooks> zcat[1] : but seriously, he can hate linux if he likes
[03:45] <spades> hedonistic great, so make sure the ips are right as per your router manual and restart networking and see if wlan0 works, if not, place the old on back and restart netowrking, should bring eth0 back and log back to irc since it will probably bounce you off
[03:45] <hedonistic> when i run sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart I get a no such process error
[03:45] <__mikem> wow, ubotu knows nothing about computers
[03:45] <spades> hedonistic do a 'grep net /etc/init.d/'
[03:46] <kbrooks> __mikem: if YOU do, give your knowledge to ubotu's all-knowing brain
[03:46] <garryF> The linux made me do it.
[03:46] <hedonistic> wait, now it worked
[03:46] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: HI!
[03:46] <wastrel> hedgemaze
[03:46] <kbrooks> __mikem: /msg ubotu <thing> is <reply>text
[03:46] <HedgeMage> hi ardchoille
[03:47] <Healot> !multiarch
[03:47] <ubotu> I know nothing about multiarch
[03:47] <NickGarvey> __mikem: mind you, if its crap it won't be accepted
[03:47] <Healot> see...
[03:47] <__mikem> NickGarvey, don't worry, I have been here long enough to know what not to do
[03:47] <apokryphos> Healot: some info about biarch in the FAQ
[03:47] <NickGarvey> __mikem: :)
[03:48] <kbrooks> __mikem: if it says the factoid exists (WARNING: DO NOT OVERWRITE FACTOIDS UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU WANT IT TO BE OVERWRITTEN: BE CONSIDERATE): /msg ubotu no, <thing> is <reply>text
[03:48] <garryF> Linux is great to visit those sites you think you should check out, but are afraid they might be some windows virus downloader.
[03:48] <apokryphos> kbrooks: please do not use caps like that again.
[03:48] <garryF> My eyes are ringing
[03:48] <NickGarvey> kbrooks: ops need to approve the factoid first
[03:48] <apokryphos> kbrooks: (ii) not everyone can add to the bot now, only a select amount of people.
[03:48] <kbrooks> apokryphos: oh, i see
[03:48] <kbrooks> apokryphos: thanks
[03:48] <hedonistic> spades, well my wired connection is still functioning even with that pasted into the interfaces file...I don't know if the network interfaces restarted correctly or not...
[03:49] <zcat[1] > "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail"
[03:49] <wastrel> yay!
[03:49] <hedonistic> spades, I guess I can try unplugging my ethernet and try to connect wirelessly
[03:49] <spades> hedonistic first do an ifconfig and see if wlan0 has an ip
[03:49] <zcat[1] > !zcat
[03:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about zcat
[03:49] <luke> everytime my PC starts I want it to run the command 'sudo netcat -p 21 -c "thpot ftp" -l', how do I go about doing that?
[03:49] <__mikem> apokryphos, do people have to earn the right to modify the bot, or do they just loose that priveledge by trolling
[03:49] <spades> if it does, do an ifconfig eth0 down and ping the router, if it wont ping, ifconfig wlan0 down, ifconfig eth0 up and try get back on irc
[03:50] <apokryphos> __mikem: no-one has it by default; anyone can try to add a factoid but it has to be approved and added by one of the editors before it goes in.
[03:50] <wastrel> people were spamming the bot
[03:50] <knorg> hi all, after a change to my xorg.conf file the Xserver didnt start anymore, how can i edit the file now?
[03:51] <hedonistic> spades, I don't see one, has inet6adr with a bunch of stuff after it
[03:51] <NickGarvey> knorg: command line my friend, command line
[03:51] <wastrel> knorg:  did you save a backup of the old file   :] 
[03:51] <kbrooks> wastrel: oh really?
[03:51] <zcat[1] > 'wallpaper-tray' looks like what I wanted...
[03:51] <matttail> knorg: use the command line and the program nano or pico to edit the file
[03:52] <kbrooks> wastrel: I find that hard to believe
[03:52] <Kibou> luke: put it into /etc/rc.local (wiithout the "sudo")
[03:52] <knorg> only a few lines to del
[03:52] <luke> Kiboy: ty
[03:52] <garryF> Technically thats a privelege.
[03:52] <wastrel> kbrooks:  i gathered that people weren't being discriminating about the factoids they were adding.  not commercial spamming :] 
[03:53] <gnomefreak> wastrel: and kbrooks to continue that please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:53] <spades> hedonistic im stumped :(  i dont know if youre down but if you wanna setup a vnc session and let me remote into your machine i can poke around, no harm if you dont want to do that, just a suggestion
[03:53] <hedonistic> spades, sure
[03:54] <luke> Kibou: should I put a '&' at the end of the command?
[03:54] <spades> hedonistic 3spades @ 3spades.net  if ya want to email me the info
[03:54] <hedonistic> spades, I have a feeling its something simple I'm not getting...I don't know how to setup a vnc session though
[03:54] <knorg> is there an editor i can start from the command line
[03:54] <spades> hedonistic under system> preferences or the one under it should be remote config or something
[03:54] <Kibou> luke: nope
[03:55] <luke> Kibou: but say I have two commands I want to run, will they both run without the '&'?
[03:55] <hedonistic> spades, remote desktop...you need the command I guess?
[03:55] <Kibou> luke: yes
[03:55] <spades> hedonistic email me your ip address and set a password on it and email that too
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> I am sorry to interrupt but I have never used IRC before and I need to get help. What am I supposed to do?
[03:56] <siriusnova_> lol
[03:56] <zcat[1] > !ask
[03:56] <__mikem> !ask
[03:56] <siriusnova_> just ask
[03:56] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[03:56] <__mikem> I typed !ask first
[03:56] <siriusnova_> :P
[03:56] <siriusnova_> i said ask first
[03:56] <siriusnova_> hehe
[03:56] <zcat[1] > not on my screen...
[03:56] <__mikem> :p
[03:56] <n00bWillingToLea> My shift button is not working.
[03:56] <dagrump_> knorg:  use nano
[03:56] <hedonistic> spades, hmm, would the ip be the router designated ip...i.e. 192.168.x.x?
[03:57] <PaulCbu> Hi there, i need some help with ra0 problem.
[03:57] <PaulCbu> any takers?
[03:57] <__mikem> nOObWillingToLea have you tried another keyboard
[03:57] <spades> hedonistic go to ipchicken.com to see it, in the router, foward port 5900 to the internal address
[03:57] <spades> ipchicken will show your external ip
[03:57] <__mikem> PaulCbu, being more specific increases your chances of getting a responce
[03:57] <n00bWillingToLea> No, I don't have one at hand but it is obviously a software problem.
[03:58] <PaulCbu> thanks __mikem
[03:58] <__mikem> How do you know its a software problem
[03:58] <__mikem> :)
[03:58] <n00bWillingToLea> I will post more details expaining I type slowly though.
[03:58] <whitesuit> is there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?
[03:58] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea be warned, DON'T paste in the chatroom
[03:58] <knorg> dagrump, is nano installed by default?
[03:58] <hedonistic> spades, ok, I have the current ip from ipchicken, but I don't exactly understand what you mean by forward port 5900 to the internal address...(sorry I'm new to this stuff)
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> My shift button does not work without caps lock on. For instance, if I do not have caps lock on and I try to type a capital letter by pressing shift + the letter nothing is typed, not even a lowercase letter. Also, with caps lock off I can not type any characters like $ because when I type shift + 4, just like with capital letters, nothing happens. However with caps lock on if I type shift + 4 I do indeed get a $ a
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> nd if I press shift + a letter it types a lowercase letter ( which is normal because I have caps lock on ).
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> Another interesting thing to note is that if I press ctrl + alt + F1 to go to a terminal shift works fine in all situations ( with or without caps lock on ).
[03:59] <PaulCbu> Well, I've read the forums and it says that rt2500 comes installed with ubuntu 5.10. problem is im not seeing the ra0 on the network interfaces list
[03:59] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, I just said NOT to paste in the chat room
[03:59] <garryF> The only thing I can imagine that might make your shift key fail when in Linux is choosing the wrong keyboard layout.
[03:59] <n00bWillingToLea> Sorry
[03:59] <garryF> It makes our monitors all sticky with paste.
[03:59] <PaulCbu> when i run iwconfig only sit0 shows up with no wireless extensions
[03:59] <spades> hedonistic check http://www.portforward.com/ for your router on how to foward that port
[04:00] <dagrump_> knorg: i didnt istall so i assume yes
[04:00] <PaulCbu> i have a MSI PC54G4 card
[04:00] <Cornellius> Amaranth: You there ?
[04:00] <PaulCbu> ubuntu is not detecting it at all
[04:00] <burepe> I converted my music library with sound converter and the converted library is about 500 files smaller than the original. Is there a way to cross check folders and find out what files are not in the new one without doing it by hand?
[04:00] <knorg> ic, thx
[04:00] <__mikem> nOObWillingToLea, I am still convinced its a hardware problem. WHen did this start happening
[04:00] <PaulCbu> can someone please help
[04:00] <n00bWillingToLea> About a week ago and it works when booted into OSx.
[04:00] <matttail> so I have hda partitioned into 4 pieces.  hda1 is linux, hda2 is swap, hda3 is windoze, and hda4 is a fat32 drive for sharing between linux and windoze.  I have hda4 in my fstab set to mount rw.  I have two problems, I have to umount and mount the drive with my user everytime I reboot so I (not only root) has write access to it.  The second problem is that it will randomly change to read only, at which point I'm basically fo
[04:00] <matttail> rced to reboot my system becuase I can't umount it becuase "the device is busy"  How can I go about fixing these issues?
[04:01] <Cornellius> Anyone tried that thing that let you use Gmail account as a FileSystem ?
[04:01] <__mikem> Wait, is this a MAC?
[04:01] <n00bWillingToLea> Yes.
[04:01] <burepe> Cornellius: I have
[04:01] <n00bWillingToLea> Ubuntu PPC.
[04:01] <wastrel> matttail:  have you set your user flag in /etc/fstab ?
[04:01] <Cornellius> burepe: Verdict ?
[04:01] <__mikem> Great, I have no expertise in MACs
[04:01] <Kyral> MAC is the Hardware address for a card
[04:01] <Boelcke> Psst. Anyone listen to SomaFM.com on Ubuntu?  I can't get it to play...
[04:02] <joseph> Is it possible to have a different wallpaper for each of the four desktops??
[04:02] <matttail> wastrel: yes, it's users
[04:02] <__mikem> Kyral, I know but I don't know how to spell macantosh
[04:02] <Kyral> oh I thought you meant MAC Address lol
[04:02] <n00bWillingToLea> It is the same ubuntu, just a different architecture.
[04:02] <burepe> Cornellius: I use the firefox extension. But I don't really need it for anything that I can't fit in my usb key. I guess if you have a specific purpose
[04:02] <Boelcke> joseph, that's a neat idea.  Um...
[04:02] <__mikem> lol
[04:02] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, did you make any changes that might have caused this
[04:03] <Healot> rn missing
[04:03] <n00bWillingToLea> Not that I can think of.
[04:03] <Intangir> like fraps, but for linux
[04:03] <Intangir> do you know of a good video capturing program for linux? to record what your doing on your screen
[04:03] <Intangir> like fraps, but for linux
[04:03] <__mikem> Well, if it is a software problem, typically software doesn't just break on its own. IF it is a software problem, its probably a locale issue
[04:03] <Intangir> i wanna record game demos from linux ;)
[04:03] <Nick-xchat> Intangir: istanbul is one I think
[04:03] <Clujo> I think I might try a couple live cds for the keyboard
[04:03] <Intangir> thx
[04:04] <Intangir> do you know of any other good ones?
[04:04] <__mikem> Clujo, you just gave me an idea thanks
[04:04] <Nick-xchat> Intangir: not sure, I haven't even used that
[04:04] <joseph> Boelcke, is it possible?
[04:04] <__mikem> n00bWillingtoLea do you have a live cd on hand
[04:04] <whitesuit> is there a way to make icons be displayed only on a specific workspace?
[04:04] <n00bWillingToLea> Yes.
[04:04] <__mikem> Could you pop it in and see if the keyboard works with it?
[04:04] <burepe> Is there a way to check 2 identical folders for discrepencies? what files are missing or what not?
[04:05] <leboff> hey , i have bcm43xx card (buffalo version...) and i'm connected to my router.. but i'm still gettin no internet..c an someone help out?
[04:05] <Intangir> thx
[04:05] <Intangir> Nick-xchat:
[04:05] <Tantalum> I have a wireless network setup in my house and unbuntu sees my wireless card but wont detect my network can someone tell me if there is something that I have to do. My net work usees DHCP
[04:05] <Boelcke> joseph, I'm not sure.  Sorry.  I was hoping to hear someone answer!
[04:05] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:05] <n00bWillingToLea> Sure, I am running on said computer now though.
[04:05] <joseph> Boelcke, it would be pretty cool
[04:05] <garryF> I do not know Boelcke
[04:05] <leboff> Tantalum: try using static once.. i know thats worked for me
[04:06] <yosup> i get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs
[04:06] <Boelcke> Anyone listen to radio on SomaFM.com? I can't get it to work...
[04:06] <Tantalum> My network has to use DHCP
[04:06] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, when you get it booted up, if it appears to work, just talk to me from the live cd until I give you further instructions
[04:06] <n00bWillingToLea> OK bye.
[04:06] <__mikem> bye
[04:06] <yosup> i CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me
[04:07] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:07] <n00bWillingToLea> Sorry, but I installed Xchat to use IRC. What should I use on the liveCD?
[04:07] <garryF> gaim
[04:07] <__mikem> or irssi
[04:07] <Boelcke> yosup, have you tried booting a Live CD?
[04:07] <n00bWillingToLea> OK bye, really this time : )
[04:07] <__mikem> bye
[04:08] <Warbo> Does anyone know how to tell if my CD writer is screwed? It doesn't work on a few distros with a few different discs
[04:08] <yosup> BoeIcke.....yes and it works fine...i can even mount the file systems
[04:08] <__mikem> garryF, for when he gets back, what package deals with locale
[04:08] <__mikem> ?
[04:08] <garryF> __mikem Dunno.
[04:09] <yosup> BoeIcke.....i think its because my file system is durty....what do u think
[04:09] <JDSBlueDevl> help, my Linux system stalled on "waiting for root file system"
[04:09] <Warbo> __mikem: language-support-XX and locales maybe?
[04:09] <hedonistic> spades, k, I think I understand how to do it, do I really need to setup a static IP though...that seems like alot of work and the directions to do so are for windows...
[04:09] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What is your root (/) filesystem on?
[04:09] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:09] <JDSBlueDevl> what do you mean?
[04:09] <dstyrk> Hi all.. i am having a hard time installing Ubuntu.. I downloaded the iso, burned it to CD.  Tried to boot an install and for some reason my iMac (older G3, looks like the eMac) won't boot or install from the CD.. Once OSX boots up it shows that the CD is there... Any ideas?
[04:09] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Where did you install Ubuntu (what type of disc)
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> hard disk
[04:10] <spades> hedonistic you can do an ifconfig eth0 to see what address dhcp gave you and use that
[04:10] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What type?
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> now it's telling me "ALERT! /dev/hda1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> NTFS
[04:10] <hedonistic> spades, k
[04:10] <Boelcke> yosup, can you run the disk-check while booted on the LiveCD?
[04:10] <bderrly> hah
[04:10] <larson9999> here is my sources list.  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16909.  what do i need to add/change so i can install  linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-25-686?
[04:10] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ermmmmm...You can't install Ubuntu to NTFS
[04:10] <garryF> JDSBlueDevl: I had that happen once, when grub was pointing to the wrong partition on the wrong drive for the root filesystem. It was in the same partition as boot and home /dev/hd3,0 and had to point it to that in grub.lst
[04:10] <JDSBlueDevl> well, it was working yesterday
[04:11] <yosup> dstyrk, make ur cd bootable in the bios
[04:11] <dagrump_> _mikem: 1 ? plz, is irssi cmnd line
[04:11] <bderrly> dagrump_, yes
[04:11] <Tantalum> I just reactivated my wireless card and ran wireless assistant but it didnt find any networks
[04:11] <garryF> Hmm, well that kills that guess.
[04:11] <__mikem> dagrump_ yes it is?
[04:11] <dagrump_> thanks ill note that
[04:11] <larson9999> oops! wrong channel
[04:11] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: When the boot menu comes up press "e" on the Ubunt uentry, then look at the "kernel" line and what it says for "root="
[04:11] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I access grub?
[04:11] <JDSBlueDevl> hold on
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> boot menu?
[04:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: GRUB
[04:12] <PaulCbu> hi, my ubuntu breezy isn't listing ra0 on the network interface list. I'm using MSI PC54G4. Any ideas?
[04:12] <__mikem> Ok, when that guy comes back, I think I know what I am going to ask him to do
[04:12] <dstyrk> yosup:  would it make a difference if I burned the iso from a windows machine?  Because I
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, let me restart the computer then first to get to that
[04:12] <JDSBlueDevl> or did you mean Esc?
[04:12] <yosup> dstyrk. did u use windows?
[04:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have the menu hidden then press Esc, then press e on the right entry
[04:13] <garryF> Grub can stand for GReat User Baffler, till you read about it then its kinda nice.
[04:13] <escobar5> hello, does anybody knows how can i work with subtitles that have special characters in qdvdauthor?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> what do you mean by right entry?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, I see
[04:13] <yosup> dstyrk, nv, u said u can see the cd.....yes its the bios
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what next?
[04:13] <dstyrk> Yes to burn the CD, because my old iMac doesn't have a CD burner.
[04:13] <yosup> i CANT get into my os....it freezes at checking all file systems and when i run the restore it freezes what a truncated erorr of hdb2 witch is a reiserfs...can someone help me
[04:13] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have a few Ubuntu kernels, recovery modes and maybe some Windows or other Linux entries make sure you choose your normal Ubuntu entry
[04:13] <Toma-> dstyrk: you didnt burn as an iso, and not just copy the iso to the cd right?
[04:13] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, just did
[04:14] <garryF> Sorry yosup, no clue.
[04:14] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try messing around with the root=/dev/XXXX bit, change the numbers and letters
[04:14] <JDSBlueDevl> root is pointing to hd0,0
[04:14] <yosup> garryF, np... is their a way to clean a reiserfs file system
[04:14] <Toma-> yosup: have you been able to access is before or is it a new install?
[04:14] <__mikem> hda0,0 shouldn't that be where the boot loader is?
[04:14] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Which root? The "root (hd0,0)" bit or the "kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hd0,0"
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> the first one
[04:15] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, not that one
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> the second one is pointing to /dev/hda1
[04:15] <joseph> Boelcke, do you have kde?
[04:15] <yosup> Toma-, the only way i can access my drive is their a boot cd and mount them.....my old install crashed with the same error....im on a new install
[04:15] <Toma-> Warbo: hd0,0 isnt a dev entry
[04:15] <garryF> not unless you can use a rescue CD and it has a fsck option. I dunno how to use fsck but that would check the file system
[04:15] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Look at the line which says "kernel"
[04:15] <JDSBlueDevl> I am, it's pointing to /dev/hda1
[04:15] <Warbo> Toma-: I know, so if he said yes to that then we would know the problem :)
[04:15] <amonkey> i'm using my xorg.conf from my breezy install on dapper now and the twinview is all borked. Xorg.0.log says the metamodes are validated, but they don't appear in the resoltution list. i only get a single monitor although both are detected in the log.
[04:15] <Toma-> Warbo: ahh :)
[04:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Is that where Ubuntu is installed? (the first partition of the fiorst HD)
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah
[04:16] <dstyrk> ok.. I'm having my roommate look for what program I used, but there was an option to burn an ISO and I chose that.. That didn't work, then I tried burn ISO with the option Make CD bootable. That didn't work either..
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> only 1 partition, if you don't count the swap
[04:16] <yosup> garryF, is that the same one as the install cd?
[04:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm, well the "waiting for root filesystem" means that it can't access that (that happens when I forget to turn on my external HD :) )
[04:16] <Toma-> yosup: well, have you changed anything in fstab?
[04:16] <JDSBlueDevl> it's an internal HD
[04:16] <Boelcke> joseph, I've got kde and gnome, though defaulting to gnome.  Finally got it to play with XMMS.  Duh.
[04:17] <Toma-> yosup: or is the reiserfs your primary ubuntu install?
[04:17] <JDSBlueDevl> and just before I rebooted, when I tried running apt-get, it was giving me some sort of memory error
[04:17] <joseph> Boelcke, you can do it through kde
[04:17] <garryF> yosup I think the install has an option to fix a broken linux. Mgight try it.
[04:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, since it is not sda I am assuming that it isn't SATA, so you shouldn't need any special drivers
[04:17] <JDSBlueDevl> it's PATA
[04:17] <yosup> Toma-, i took all my fat drives out of my fstab but they r still being check...and i think the prolbem is my reiserfs anyway
[04:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try changing hda to sda maybe (I am not too sure about PATA)
[04:18] <JDSBlueDevl> isn't PATA just the formal name for ATA?
[04:18] <dstyrk> Toma-:
[04:18] <JDSBlueDevl> I mean IDE/ATA?
[04:18] <efox> hey hey
[04:18] <Warbo> ATA is IDE, PATA is Parallel ATA, SATA is Serial ATA
[04:18] <Boelcke> yosup, I ought to put the obvious warning here:  If you end up formatting the partition, and re-set it up, and still get errors, it could be a sign that your drive is dying...
[04:19] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, booting, still freezing on "waiting for root file system"
[04:19] <Toma-> yosup: ok. it might help to run "sudo fsck.reiserfs --check (or even --fix-fixable) /dev/your-resierfs-entry" from a live cd
[04:19] <yosup> Boelcke, yea i know :p...but its new and i can mount it fine through the install cd
[04:19] <efox> and thats what happened to my laptop hd...i reformatted and a few months later it kept doin the same thing
[04:19] <dstyrk> Toma-:  it was an open source program for window.. I fell upon it through "Stumble"
[04:19] <hedonistic> spades, k email sent, hope thats all you need
[04:19] <Toma-> !iso
[04:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You might need to add some modules to the initrd
[04:19] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> Shift is now working.
[04:20] <JDSBlueDevl> do you think installing the P2P-TV programs TVants and Sopcast under Wine may have done something to the system?
[04:20] <efox> is there a way to have a file/folder protected from being deleted but still have the ability to write to it ?
[04:20] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea are you in the live or in the installed
[04:20] <yosup> Toma-, ok...im going to switch back to linux
[04:20] <yosup> brb
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> Live
[04:20] <Toma-> dstyrk: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[04:20] <Toma-> dstyrk: just follow that and youll be on your way
[04:20] <Toma-> yosup: np
[04:20] <n00bWillingToLea> 5.10 because I don't have a dapper liveCD.
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> and how do I get to the initrd
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> ?
[04:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I wrote a guide to booting non-bootable USB drives here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUsb . You may be able to adapt the section which deals with adding modules to mkinitramfs to add PATA modules
[04:21] <__mikem> Ok, we have just proven that it isn't any sort of hardware issue.
[04:21] <spades> hedonistic are you running a firewall?
[04:21] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, do you have any way to mount your root file system?
[04:21] <dstyrk> Toma-:   So buring the CD from a windows machine to install on a Mac won't be a problem?
[04:21] <__mikem> do you know how
[04:21] <JDSBlueDevl> it says it doesn't exit
[04:21] <n00bWillingToLea> yes, why?
[04:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hang on, typo
[04:21] <Toma-> dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off
[04:21] <__mikem> THank god for that. I want you to mount it with read/write privleges
[04:21] <hedonistic> spades, on my laptop, I am running ubuntu right now and as far as i know, there isn't a firewall (I havent installe done anyhow)
[04:22] <XaviusShadow> I'm having a problem with installing ubuntu. The cd boots, goes so far into the install and then just kills over saying it can't find the CD in the drive.
[04:22] <Toma-> Warbo: does that mean i can boot ubuntu from my MRobe? :D
[04:22] <Warbo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootFromUSB?highlight=%28usb%29%7C%28boot%29
[04:22] <dstyrk> Toma-:  How do I check to make sure it will be allowd?
[04:22] <Warbo> Toma-: ?
[04:22] <Toma-> Warbo: its a USB harddrive mp3 player
[04:23] <Toma-> dstyrk: dunno, not a mac user sadly :( try googling "mac boot cd"
[04:23] <Toma-> or something
[04:23] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, so I should probably get my LiveCD?
[04:23] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, have you mounted your root file system yet?
[04:23] <Warbo> Toma-: Ah. Well I thought of doing that to my HD USB video player, but then realised that to partition it I would need to turn it on, and to shrink the partition on it I must not be using it, but by turning it on I would be using it
[04:23] <spades> hedonistic gimme a few minutes, got some work related things to do
[04:24] <hedonistic> spades, no problem
[04:24] <n00bWillingToLea> No I am currently making sure my thermal modules are loaded so my computer doesn't melt.
[04:24] <JDSBlueDevl> oh crap, that's right, I threw it away when it was giving me install problems (it was a beta)
[04:24] <dstyrk> Toma-:  Will do... I most likely will be back in a few for some questions.. Thanks for your help this far.
[04:24] <Toma-> Warbo: ahh :( can you install without touching a fat filesystem?
[04:24] <__mikem> ok, once you are sure its loaded
[04:24] <Toma-> dstyrk: ne time ;)
[04:24] <Cornellius> Anyone tried XMMS2 ? http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2 Can't get their repository to work
[04:25] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You don't need to follow that guide completely, just the bit about adding lines to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules (find the right modules for PATA and don;t bother with the USB ones)
[04:25] <efox> so anyone know ?
[04:25] <Toma-> Cornellius: yeh i tried it. its horrid, so far.
[04:25] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, do I need to drop down to the command line first?
[04:26] <Warbo> Toma-: Well I suppose I could wipe the whole thing because I have a backup/upgrade for the firmware, so copying it onto a fresh partition afterwards may make it work, but 200 is a bit too expensive to piss around like that
[04:26] <Cornellius> http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/index.php/Download_XMMS2  I'm trying to add their repository for Dapper from their site
[04:26] <dstyrk> Is there a Mac specific IRC channel for Ubuntu users?
[04:26] <n00bWillingToLea> Ok it's mounted
[04:26] <JDSBlueDevl> and how do I do that from grub?
[04:26] <__mikem> ok, I want you to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf in a text editor
[04:26] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can edit files from GRUB, you would need some form of LiveCD
[04:26] <Toma-> Warbo: fair enough :D but, HDD players are fun. you can wipe em then re-install firmware, just aslong as you dont flash its bios, you can still keep on kickin
[04:27] <Toma-> !ppc
[04:27] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[04:27] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, I guess I have to let it go until it drops down to the command line itself
[04:27] <Toma-> dstyrk: nope :/
[04:27] <Warbo> Toma-: Well I can't really talk about messing around with it, since I broke the screen a few weeks ago :( (well, my cat did)
[04:27] <JDSBlueDevl> might take 5 minutes
[04:27] <efox> how can i prevent a file from being deleted (other than root) BUT still be able to write ?
[04:27] <Toma-> Cornellius: and whats the problem with it?
[04:27] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <__mikem> in a text editor
[04:28] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't think you can do it from busybox, since that is in the initrd filesystem, not the Ubuntu filesystem
[04:28] <Toma-> Warbo: i blame things on the cat too :D not breaking mp3 players, but more along the lines of passing gases.
[04:28] <Cornellius> Toma-: Packages is built specificly for Dapper are available:
[04:28] <Cornellius> deb http://exodus.xmms.se/debian drapper main
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> oh
[04:28] <Cornellius> However, when I add it via Synaptic, it doesn't work
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't have an Ubuntu LiveCD, but rather an install disk for that
[04:28] <gdb> efox: remove write permissions from the directory the file is in
[04:28] <n00bWillingToLea> Done.
[04:28] <JDSBlueDevl> but I do have a Knoppix Live DVD
[04:28] <Toma-> Cornellius: yeh? what do you mean "doesnt work"?
[04:29] <JDSBlueDevl> would that work?
[04:29] <gdb> efox: the directory permissions control the deletion and creation of files, the file permissions only control modifications of the files themselves.
[04:29] <jpgvietnam> hi all
[04:29] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, ok, find a section labled "input device" with the identifier "Generic Keyboard"
[04:29] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: That should work, you just need tomount your Ubuntu system so you can access a text file, then chroot into it and rebuild the initrd (by using dpkg-reconfigure on your linu-image package)
[04:30] <efox> gdb: wicked..thanks
[04:30] <jolmash> hello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via  Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?
[04:30] <Cornellius> Well, I add it, the do reload to get the new package, then, it tells me it couldn't find the repository indexes from that place.
[04:30] <n00bWillingToLea> done
[04:30] <Warbo> efox: Some filesystems have seperate "writable" and "deletable" permissions, but I don't think Linux uses them if you do mount them
[04:30] <jajaja0> hey guys my nvidia fx5200 svideo out is pretty blurry..anything I can do to fix that?
[04:30] <__mikem> Ok, pastebin the contents of the section
[04:30] <gdb> efox: sure thing!
[04:30] <Toma-> Cornellius: email them. tell them its a buggy repo
[04:31] <n00bWillingToLea> sorry not sure if this is appropriate but "Toma- dstyrk: nope. MAKE sure the mac bios allows cds to boot. usually its turned off"
[04:31] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, how am I going to mount my Ubuntu system?
[04:31] <n00bWillingToLea> that isn't true as far as I have seen
[04:31] <wastrel> hold C to boot from CD on mac's iirc
[04:31] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be mount /dev/hda1?
[04:31] <Toma-> n00bWillingToLea: ok.
[04:31] <Warbo> Mac BIOS? That would be a very sad day if we are going backwards in technology
[04:32] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, could you pastebin the contents of that section and send me the url
[04:32] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, I think KNOPPIX puts an icon on the desktop
[04:32] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[04:32] <garryF> I dunno Warbo. I hear that the amish have been y2k ready for decades.
[04:33] <markg> glad that Ati finally got the .26 drivers out  ;-p
[04:33] <Warbo> markg: I use the Free ones
[04:33] <JDSBlueDevl> this didn't start happening to my computer until I tried installing TVants and Sopcast under Wine
[04:33] <Toma-> n00bWillingToLea: since you know more about ppc/apple, feel free to help dstyrk in my absence. thanks.
[04:33] <JDSBlueDevl> do you think that may have done it?
[04:33] <efox> gdb: it didnt work
[04:33] <keithhhhh> other than wine is there anyway to emulatate or preferably run XP in a window  WITHOUT installing a new copy of XP
[04:33] <markg> I tried them but they were a lil slow
[04:34] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I don't see how
[04:34] <efox> gdb: i did chmod 744 folder and when i tried to delete a file within that folder, it allowed me too
[04:34] <Warbo> keithhhhh: Use "qemu -hda /dev/hda" to use your own drive
[04:34] <markg> vmplayer
[04:34] <efox> the first rwx is root or owner ?
[04:34] <Warbo> owner
[04:34] <AidyMole> kay Im trying to get rid of openoffice but it doesn't really want to
[04:35] <Warbo> then group then other
[04:35] <efox> maybe that was problem
[04:35] <efox> damm
[04:35] <efox> Warbo: ok, my bad then..thanks
[04:35] <efox> gdb: nm
[04:35] <keithhhhh> Warbo: thanks Ill read about it now
[04:35] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, pastebin'ing the contents of a section of your xorg.conf file shouldn't take this long. What are you diong?
[04:35] <Warbo> efox: root doesnt have it's own permission for a file, unless he owns it (then it would be "owner")
[04:35] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, Knoppix finished booting, recognized hda1
[04:35] <n00bWillingToLea> The page won't load for some reason.
[04:35] <Cornellius> Is there a site where they show some nice repositories for Dapper ?
[04:36] <NickGarvey> !repos > Cornellius
[04:36] <proctor> Im having some trouble mounting a data drive that i happened to partitione & installed Ubuntu on, just want read access to it
[04:36] <yosup> _TomB, ok now i cant even boot to the cd i get a buffer i/o error on hdc witch is a fat now
[04:36] <markg> hey speaking of wine has anybody loaded up the 9.16 built from src on an x86_64?
[04:36] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Go into it when it loads and open up the etc/mkinitramfs/modules file
[04:36] <_TomB> ..?
[04:36] <__mikem> ok, just go ahead and paste it in here. I am sure they will unerstand in this case
[04:36] <NickGarvey> markg: wine doesn't work on 64 bit, sorry
[04:36] <eternaljoy> hi
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> Section "InputDevice"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Driver		"mouse"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"CorePointer"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Device"		"/dev/input/mice"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Protocol"		"ExplorerPS/2"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"ZAxisMapping"		"4 5"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"Emulate3Buttons"	"true"
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> EndSection
[04:36] <NickGarvey> !paste > n00bWillingToLea
[04:36] <n00bWillingToLea> sorry wrong one
[04:37] <paradise> hi
[04:37] <__mikem> NickGarvey, he can't get onto the pastebin website for some reason
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> Section "InputDevice"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Driver		"kbd"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"CoreKeyboard"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc104"
[04:37] <markg> I keep seeing all of these posts using ia32 for emulation since the games are all 32 anyway
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> 	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"
[04:37] <n00bWillingToLea> EndSection
[04:37] <paradise> whats the latest firefox?
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: it's not true that wine doesn't work on amd64
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: I hav eit running
[04:37] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: what distro?
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, found it
[04:37] <paradise> whats the latest firefox? i have 1.5
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> wow, it's completely commented, with absolutely nothing in it
[04:37] <NickGarvey> paradise: 1.5.0.4
[04:37] <markg> I'm in the process of building it now
[04:37] <__mikem> GReat, all that trouble, and the section doesn't have any problems
[04:37] <Warbo> "linux32" apparently allows running x86 architecture code in x86_64 architecture
[04:37] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: ubuntu dapper, you just need to install the 32 bit version, np
[04:37] <JDSBlueDevl> what do I do to rebuild it?
[04:38] <jolmash> hello all, Is there a way to connect satellite internet via Ubuntu? I mean, just like kppp does it with 56k modems?
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: how can you tell if you using 1.5.0.4?
[04:38] <markg> just need to load 2 more deps in for the complie
[04:38] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, no problems there.
[04:38] <pianoboy3333> Anyone here use the ati fglrx driver? I need some help getting it to work...
[04:38] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: yeah, I ment 64 bit distro, not 64 bit processors
[04:38] <NickGarvey> !ati > pianoboy3333
[04:38] <NickGarvey> paradise: help > about
[04:38] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have added the right modules to that file (I don;t actually know what they are though) then open a root terminal
[04:38] <NickGarvey> paradise: in firefox
[04:38] <pianoboy3333> NickGarvey: I need specific help
[04:38] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: this is 64 bit ubuntu dapper
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says 1.5
[04:38] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: I don't understand
[04:38] <paradise> NickGarvey: how can I upgrade to using 1.5.0.4?
[04:38] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, in root
[04:39] <JDSBlueDevl> but I don't know what the right modules are
[04:39] <NickGarvey> paradise: there should be a "look for updates" option
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: JEEEZZZ you simply can install 32 bit apps on 64 bit distro's you know
[04:39] <n00bWillingToLea> I hope I can help whoever had the Mac questions but it is hard to follow so if there are any please repost them.
[04:39] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: yes...
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: its greyed out
[04:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: do "chroot /wherever/you/have/mounted/hda1"
[04:39] <markg> <--64bit Kub here
[04:39] <NickGarvey> paradise: be root
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: "Check for updates" is ghosted
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: so? YOu can run wine on an 64 bit distro
[04:39] <paradise> NickGarvey: run sudo firefox you mean?
[04:39] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: do you actually have any clue
[04:40] <markg> yea
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[04:40] <markg>  you can been doing it over and over all week  lol
[04:40] <Warbo> WINE can run in linux32, but it is hard to install, you can install 32bit packages easily in a 32bit chroot though
[04:40] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: I would appreciate it if you didn't talk down to me in support channel
[04:40] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, do you know the version of linux you are using in Ubuntu?
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean the kernel?
[04:40] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says 1.5.3 is the latest! your 1.5.4 must be a fake
[04:40] <JDSBlueDevl> or the Ubuntu version?
[04:41] <AidyMole> Warbo no need at all for 32 bit chroot
[04:41] <leboff> how would you check the strength of your link to a router
[04:41] <JDSBlueDevl> the kernel is 2.6.15-25
[04:41] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: The version of the linux kernel in Ubuntu
[04:41] <Bassetts> i really wish you could move windows about in the window list
[04:41] <NickGarvey> paradise: Firefox 1.5.0.4 is a security update that is part of our ongoing program to provide a safe Internet experience for our customers. We recommend that all users upgrade to this latest version.
[04:41] <efox> i have a CRON question. I'm trying to do a backup of some file and im using tar to do so BUT i cant seem to understand how to tar to a directory...pardon my terminolgy :S
[04:41] <AidyMole> Warbo, just dpkg --force-architecture on the wine .deb and install all the missing 32 bit libs too
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> leboff, in ubuntu?
[04:41] <leboff> nomasteryoda: yes please
[04:41] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: OK, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-25"
[04:41] <efox> if anyone could give me the syntax or something
[04:41] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, I really can't think what else the problem could be
[04:41] <garryF> Mine must be a fake too then.
[04:41] <Warbo> AidyMole: Ah, didn't know that (but I am 32bit x86 anyway)
[04:41] <nomasteryoda> leboff, you should install the gnome-network-manager
[04:42] <paradise> NickGarvey: it says 1.5.0.3 is the latest when I chose update
[04:42] <NickGarvey> !info mozilla-firefox
[04:42] <leboff> nomasteryoda: got it.. but i dont think it tells you in there
[04:42] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: Transition package for firefox rename. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06 (dapper), package size 48 kB, installed size 104 kB
[04:42] <JDSBlueDevl> it's saying it isn't installed
[04:42] <NickGarvey> paradise: :)
[04:42] <paradise> NickGarvey: why does it say 1.5.03 for me?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> sure it will if you mean wireless
[04:42] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Add "-386" (or your architecture) to the end sorry
[04:42] <markg> was poking around on SF and saw qwine out there too
[04:42] <NickGarvey> paradise: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> mouse over the tray icon with the bars
[04:42] <proctor> paradise is running breezy tho, right?
[04:42] <nomasteryoda> that is what mine has
[04:42] <Tantalum> I justinstalled nvidia-glc but when I do nvidia-glx-config enable I get an error message saying that nvidia-glx-config not found
[04:43] <paradise> proctor: yes breezy
[04:43] <NickGarvey> AidyMole: also, 32 bit only works on the AMD, some of the intel don't run 32 bit
[04:43] <paradise> NickGarvey: im using Breezy
[04:43] <leboff> nomasteryoda: hmm.. i have it on my laptop but not my desktop..
[04:43] <AidyMole> NickGarvey: Tell me what's the chance someone has IA64
[04:43] <JDSBlueDevl> should I run this under sudo?
[04:43] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you have chrooted then you should be root anyway
[04:43] <paradise> NickGarvey: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper
[04:43] <leboff> nomasteryoda: any way to make sure its installed
[04:43] <JDSBlueDevl> it's giving me problems again
[04:43] <NickGarvey> paradise: heh, I dunno then
[04:44] <paradise> proctor: I refuse to upgrade to Dapper
[04:44] <leboff> paradise: wha wha whaaa!!
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> leboff, open synaptic is easy way
[04:44] <paradise> leboff
[04:44] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: What kind of problem?
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> or use which
[04:44] <paradise> NickGarvey: you using Dapper?
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/modules.dep.temp for writing: Read-only file system
[04:44] <yosup> ok...how do i add options to the boot cd
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> There was a problem running depmod
[04:44] <NickGarvey> paradise: suse 10.1
[04:44] <nomasteryoda> leboff, which gnome-network-manager
[04:44] <paradise> leboff: you muslim riught?
[04:44] <paradise> NickGarvey: this is ubuntu channel FOOL
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> THis may be benign
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> or this could be an error
[04:44] <JDSBlueDevl> depmod exited with return value of 1
[04:45] <markg> think over the last week fighting ati I rolled about 6 distros  just to get back around to kubuntu on wednesday when the drivers came out lol.
[04:45] <JDSBlueDevl> it's asking if I want to abort
[04:45] <JDSBlueDevl> or continue
[04:45] <leboff> nomasteryoda: .. hold on, i'm gettin it now.. maybe it didnt come when i updated to dapper..
[04:45] <NickGarvey> paradise: really? I thought this was #suse </sarcasm>
[04:45] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Seems like hda1 is mounted read only. In another root terminal run "mount -o remount -rw /where/you/have/mounted/hda1"
[04:45] <leboff> paradise: what are you talkin about?
[04:45] <garryF> Never ever go to the wrong channel? Hmmm.
[04:45] <NickGarvey> garryF: heh I'm in the right one
[04:45] <nomasteryoda> leboff, that is what happend to me too... i had to go back and install it
[04:45] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLearn, do me a favor, as a last ditch effort, boot into the installation, and type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[04:45] <garryF> NickGarvey hehe , yeah I know.
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[04:46] <NickGarvey> :)
[04:46] <leboff> nomasteryoda: oh ok, then thanks for the help.. i appreciate it
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try taht dpkg-reconfigure again (in the chroot terminal)
[04:46] <paradise> leboff: you a leb muslim?
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ouch, it's giving a whole bunch of "permission denied"
[04:46] <fdsd> Hey guys, I just want to let everyone know I made dinner for the first time today! Chicken, peppers and brocolli,  Yes I know its amazing, but I am just a normal man, You can do this too!
[04:46] <paradizelost> hey all.  can anyone help me to turn on Large File Support on Apache2 on ddapper?
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try running "su"
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> but it said it was able to write
[04:46] <paradise> NickGarvey: stop taking those anti depressent medication
[04:46] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah I did sudo
[04:46] <n00bWillingToLea> OK but first I am just going to create a new user on a hunch to see if it works.
[04:46] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: No, run "su" then do the dpkg-reconfigure
[04:47] <__mikem> ok
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: you cant run su on breezy
[04:47] <NickGarvey> Warbo: su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:47] <__mikem> if that doesn't work, I am out of ideas
[04:47] <NickGarvey> Warbo: do "sudo -i" instead
[04:47] <leboff> paradise: nah sorry not sure what that means even
[04:47] <tach00> !pastebin
[04:47] <Warbo> Is it installed though?
[04:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:47] <Warbo> I have found that it works in a chroot fine
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:47] <paradizelost> large file support - having files larger than 2GB show up
[04:47] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[04:47] <paradise> Warbo: not true
[04:48] <JDSBlueDevl> but it said it was able to write
[04:48] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I'll just have to try it
[04:48] <Warbo> paradise: Where have you been? In a Chinese pipe? Su works for root
[04:48] <garryF> fdsd I once saw a thing that said ye might be too busy if 90% of your meals are handed to you through the car window.
[04:48] <leboff> nomasteryoda: now i'm gettin no network devices found :/
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: (no it doesn't)
[04:48] <NickGarvey> !root > Warbo
[04:48] <ali> i am facing two problems one i cannot connect to pop on my website
[04:48] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Then how come I am root in an xterm right now?
[04:48] <leboff> maybe a restart will do it.. will it automatically load now?
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: because you "sudo passwd root" when you installed
[04:48] <ali> '192.168.0.3-192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0'"
[04:48] <NickGarvey> Warbo: its off by default
[04:48] <paradizelost> NickGarvey: it does if you set it up right
[04:48] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Oh no I haven't that is stupid
[04:48] <ali> other i am getting following warning message "  WARNING: Netmask masks away part of the specified IP in '192.168.0.3-192.168.0.255/255.255.255.0'"
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: rubbish, doesnt work
[04:49] <ali> what should i do to solve it ?
[04:49] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: where you been?  on Mars?  su in ubuntu doesn't work
[04:49] <NickGarvey> Warbo: well, then you have a different ubunt then everyone else..
[04:49] <fdsd> garryF, lol, that was my life during college, I just realized, I could take that money and make my own food, and enjoy my meals much much more
[04:49] <Warbo> paradise: Were you doing it in a chroot jail?
[04:49] <paradise> ali: get a new nick for starters
[04:49] <leboff> theres gotta be some command line way to check your link
[04:49] <pete-is-outside> hi i'm trying to burn ubuntu onto a CD and i need help with where to extract and burn the .rar download on the site
[04:49] <paradise> Warbo: you are trolling
[04:49] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: it should be an ISO
[04:49] <ali> paradise, what is that new nicK ?
[04:50] <paradise> Warbo: you are trolling if you claim su works in Ubuntu, because it doesnt!  Stop trolling
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> just one file?
[04:50] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: if you are running windows, try cdburner xp pro
[04:50] <paradizelost> ali: is this on a dhcp server?
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> well i just build a shuttle
[04:50] <paradise> ali: how about gracious
[04:50] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: make sure you download off the ubuntu site
[04:50] <Warbo> paradise: What? No, I am stating that running su in a chroot of an Ubunt usystem as root works perfectly well, and allows you to be come root (or any other user) of the chroot system
[04:50] <wastrel> su works in ubuntu
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> i know, but is it just the iso i put on the CD?
[04:50] <garryF> fdsd Yeah, I made chicken too tonight in one of those foreman grills. I ususally got to restarurant in town because of the pretty waitresses.
[04:50] <NickGarvey> wastrel: only if you turn it on..
[04:50] <pete-is-outside> nothing else from the zip?
[04:50] <ali> paradizelost, nope it is on a fix ip
[04:50] <wastrel> NickGarvey:  su <username> ...
[04:50] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, now after the Uncompressing Linux line, it's giving me a whole bunch of "not found"
[04:51] <NickGarvey> wastrel: heh, we mean root
[04:51] <fdsd> garryF, you should ask her out, then she can make food for you!
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> as in /init: 86: depmod: not found
[04:51] <Warbo> NickGarvey: Honestly, if you have time later boot a livecd and mount your root partition, then chroot into it and run su
[04:51] <paradizelost> ali: no, what is giving you the error?  because 192.168.0.255 is not a valid ip address
[04:51] <ali> paradizelost, problem is only the pop3 and smtp is not getting on a remote server
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean?
[04:51] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:51] <paradise> Warbo: rubbish
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> it's also hanging
[04:51] <paradise> garryF: can you run su in ubuntu?
[04:51] <JDSBlueDevl> hello, having more problems
[04:51] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: hanging out to dry?
[04:51] <__mikem> 192.168.0.x is the same ip range our private LAN uses
[04:51] <garryF> fdsd Eeeney Meeney Miney Moe, which pretty waitress to ask out I do not know.
[04:51] <NickGarvey> Warbo: By default, the root account is locked in Ubuntu. This means you cannot login as root or use su. Instead, the installer will setup sudo to allow the user that is created during install to run all administrative commands.
[04:51] <fdsd> garryF, it was teriyaki marinaded, soo good
[04:52] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: user error
[04:52] <leboff> i wish you could have a british accent on the internet..
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, it's hanging after /init: 1: /sbin/usplash_write: not found
[04:52] <NickGarvey> Warbo: right off the wiki man, you should read the friendly manual ;)
[04:52] <fdsd> garryF, all of them, for each day of the week
[04:52] <paradise> NickGarvey: exactly
[04:52] <garryF> paradise Hmmm, I've nver been able to get su workng tho sudo works fine.
[04:52] <n00bWillingToLea> It's working with a new user.
[04:52] <paradise> Warbo: did you read NickGarvey comment?
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> user error?
[04:52] <kaot> __mikem: but .255 isn't a valid IP address it's the broadcast address of the network,given that netmask
[04:52] <pete-is-outside> NickGarvey so i only burn the iso onto the CD?
[04:52] <JDSBlueDevl> what's the error?
[04:52] <NickGarvey> pete-is-outside: yes, it should be about 700 MB
[04:52] <pete-is-outside> alright thank you
[04:52] <paradise> garryF: exatly!  tell that to the troll Warbo :)
[04:53] <wastrel> i just used su
[04:53] <JDSBlueDevl> paradise: what error?
[04:53] <wastrel> don't call people troll
[04:53] <__mikem> n00bWillingToLea, that indicates a polocy issue, I would recomend backing up all your data and moving over to a new user account
[04:53] <paradise> Warbo: you troll when you keep claiming su works in Ubuntu
[04:53] <garryF> fdsd Hmmm I'll shall have to try teriaki. I usually spice it up with about six bottles of spices cause I can't decide wich I like.
[04:53] <NickGarvey> wastrel: thats because you used "sudo passwd root"
[04:53] <paradise> JDSBlueDevl: user error, not ubuntu error
[04:53] <n00bWillingToLea> OK
[04:53] <ali> paradizelost, it is changed now
[04:53] <paradise> wastrel: I can type in su too, but it wont work
[04:53] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, that means nothing
[04:53] <__mikem> sudo passwd root is the first thing I do when I install ubuntu
[04:53] <fdsd> garryF, the butcher in my grocery store does it for me for free, its really really good
[04:53] <garryF> I tried su in ubuntu, and it never worked, tho I can get sudo working fine. /shrug
[04:53] <Warbo> !pastebin
[04:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:54] <wastrel> paradise:  well it can be made to work, so don't go calling people troll.
[04:54] <paradise> garryF: :)
[04:54] <ali> paradizelost, still the same error i changed to 254
[04:54] <JDSBlueDevl> dropped down into BusyBox
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> garryF, designed to use sudo ubuntu is
[04:54] <garryF> I tried to get su to dig a ditch for work, but it said shovel not found.
[04:54] <JDSBlueDevl> I tried dpkg-reconfigure when I booted off a Knoppix LiveDVD
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> for security
[04:54] <smoofra> anyone know if the ubuntu server DVD can do a whole install via serial port?
[04:54] <garryF> nomasteryoda hehe, Yep. I like the syntax.
[04:54] <nomasteryoda> ya
[04:55] <leboff> i tried to get su in my bed... didnt work out so well
[04:55] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:55] <garryF> paradise I have a doctorate in ditch technology.
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, wow that would take quite a while
[04:55] <Warbo> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16913 There
[04:55] <NickGarvey> leboff: heh, "su hot
[04:55] <kaot> I dated a girl named Sue.  Called her Su in emails.  She didn't get it.  :\
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> this is worse off than the 15-23 kernel, which at least loads the splash screens
[04:55] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, no usb or cd drive?
[04:55] <NickGarvey> leboff: heh, "su hot_guy" never works for me
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[04:55] <JDSBlueDevl> help!
[04:55] <kaot> I tried to explain it, she broke up with me shortly thereafter.
[04:55] <paradise> garryF: define ditch technology.
[04:56] <nomasteryoda> kaot, sounds logical
[04:56] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ok, if you use su in the chroot you should become root for your system, rather than root for KNOPPIX, then you should have permission
[04:56] <kaot> yes.
[04:56] <garryF> paradise I used to do yardwork for a living digging ditches and mowing lawns.
[04:56] <zcat[1] > my wife is su
[04:56] <kaot> I guess no one told her what I did for fun.
[04:56] <orcdestroyer> anyone knows about the rules of iptables firewall ?
[04:56] <paradise> garryF: ok
[04:56] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, then I should boot into Knoppix again
[04:56] <paradise> garryF: God bless your heart
[04:56] <smoofra> nomasteryoda: it has usb and a cd drive it just doesn't have VGA
[04:56] <leboff> zcat[1]   as in your wife is very powerful.. or her name is su..
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you reconfigure the linux-image then you should be able to boot into Ubuntu (ie. that's it)
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, ah ic
[04:57] <zcat[1] > Sue...
[04:57] <garryF> paradise and my shovel. Hehe. and your's too. :)
[04:57] <leboff> ah
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I did that, and it didn't work
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> we're going to have to do this step by step
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm, still the no permission error?
[04:57] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, well you could follow the install screens shots from osdir and i think install blind
[04:57] <zcat[1] > my wife doesn't know much about linux though, I wouldn't trust her with root access :)
[04:57] <nomasteryoda> =D
[04:57] <paradise> garryF: :)
[04:57] <blind> install me?
[04:57] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I will scroll up and try to understand it a little better
[04:58] <orcdestroyer> can anyone help me with iptables?
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> LOL blind wow did not know you were here
[04:58] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[04:58] <NickGarvey> zcat[1] : "/bin"? is that a trash bin? I should clear it
[04:58] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[04:58] <blind> no one ever does :)
[04:58] <paradise> zcat[1] : pls dont disrespect your wife
[04:58] <smoofra> nomasteryoda: so there's no way to do a curses install via the serial port :(
[04:58] <__mikem> blind, I was BLIND to your pressence
[04:58] <__mikem> lol
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> smoofra, lets see
[04:59] <nomasteryoda> give me a sec
[04:59] <garryF> paradise Me thinks that those who disrespect their wives have watched too much married with children.
[04:59] <LoneShadow> what do I need to modify to make icewm as the default wm and to load as a particular user id, without asking for a login ?
[04:59] <paradise> garryF: indeed
[04:59] <JDSBlueDevl> OK, Knoppix booted up
[05:00] <luluzinha> hi
[05:00] <NickGarvey> hello
[05:00] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm. Don't really understand those errors. As far as I know, if you add modules to /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and reconfigure linux-image (rebuild the initrd) then you can use those modules, so Linux should have no problem accessing the drive
[05:01] <JDSBlueDevl> what modules?
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: By the way, don't use sudo in the chroot because it doesn't work that well and that may screw up su
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> how can I direcionate ports using iptables ?
[05:01] <mary-kate> hi i had a question, about the ubuntu 5.10 distro
[05:01] <orcdestroyer> re-dir
[05:01] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: The PATA modules
[05:01] <mary-kate> are there anymore updates for 5.10?
[05:01] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't know what those are
[05:01] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, upgrade to dapper
[05:02] <wastrel> mary-kate:  security updates only
[05:02] <mary-kate> i have dapper on cd
[05:02] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but there is no point rebuilding the linux-image if it is exactly the same as the one you already have :)
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, you can just upgrade using dist-upgrade if you have good internet connection
[05:02] <tach00> i guess i am being ignored
[05:02] <JDSBlueDevl> so the problem is with the modules file
[05:02] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I though you seemed to go through the adding modules step a little quickly.......
[05:02] <nomasteryoda> tach00, what was your issue?
[05:03] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, you didn't really help me with that
[05:03] <tach00> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16912 can anyone tell me what to do about this???
[05:03] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: You need to find out the name of all of the PATA modules you might need, then put them in that file one per line, then rebuild the initrd
[05:03] <mary-kate> is it a MUST that i upgrade to dapper?
[05:03] <Adross> with the podcast plugin in banshee, what directory are the downloaded podcasts in?
[05:03] <mary-kate> or can i keep breezy badger?
[05:03] <nomasteryoda> tach00, you using clustering?
[05:03] <Warbo> mary-kate: No, you will have a secure system, but no fancy new stuff
[05:03] <wastrel> mary-kate:  it's not necessary
[05:04] <tach00> i am sorry but i don know what tht is
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> where would I find that?
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> way, logical volume manager
[05:04] <mary-kate> ah
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> lvm
[05:04] <JDSBlueDevl> pretend I'm stupid
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> well i was earlier
[05:04] <zcat[1] > breezy still has support for another year, right/
[05:04] <tach00> yeh, sucs to be the new guy
[05:04] <zcat[1] > ?
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> tried to install dapper on an iMac
[05:04] <nomasteryoda> failed very much so
[05:04] <mary-kate> then it's by choice if i wanna upgrade or not, correct?
[05:04] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: in a root KNOPPIX terminal do "nano /path/to/your/ubuntu/system/etc/mkinitramfs/modules"
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> googled and found upgrade from breezy is the only option for now
[05:05] <dribble> hey all - if I were looking to setup a box as a primary file server, hosting music and apps and such for the other boxes in the network, what would the proper protocol be...?  NFS?  Samba?
[05:05] <tmccrary> Is there a way to change the theme and font used for wine applications?
[05:05] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, it's open in KWrite
[05:05] <tach00> what is clustering and how do i turn it off?
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> dribble, sharing apps?
[05:05] <Adross> dribble: what are the other computers? Windows?
[05:05] <tmccrary> dribble: NFS for unix machines, SMB for windows
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> just sec tach00
[05:05] <tach00> sure
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> dribble, you can do nice web setup with ampache
[05:05] <Warbo> tmccrary: Yes, get a ".msstyles" theme
[05:05] <nomasteryoda> sharing music
[05:05] <Adross> dribble: samba is probably your best bet, but gshare is also good
[05:05] <tmccrary> dribble: If you have mixed environment, you're probably better off going samba
[05:06] <dribble> Adross, just *nix, but, being able to use a windows box in the future would be good
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> or gnump3d for music and video
[05:06] <Kartharak> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:06] <dribble> tmccrary, thx
[05:06] <tmccrary> warbo: thank you, I will try that
[05:06] <Adross> dribble: samba then
[05:06] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:06] <iJeff> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:06] <dribble> Adross, thx
[05:06] <mary-kate> ok, how long will security upgrade for breezy be available?
[05:06] <Warbo> tmccrary: I have forgotten exactly where you put them, I will check on my system
[05:06] <Adross> dribble: pleasure
[05:06] <nomasteryoda> tach00, so is this system already installed?
[05:06] <tach00> yes
[05:06] <jajaja0> anyone know how I can get my fx5200 svideo out better quality?
[05:06] <JDSBlueDevl> under This might be good choices are commented raidi and sd_mod
[05:06] <tach00> and updated
[05:07] <tmccrary> warbo: in the graphic section of winecfg maybe?
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> mary-kate, dapper is LTS (long term support = 5 years)...
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> much better
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> tach00, ic
[05:07] <tach00> now i have 2 issues, one is that something is stuck andi cant install anything with out gettig errors
[05:07] <tmccrary> warbo: Do the xp msstyles themes work?
[05:07] <mary-kate> and breezy badger?
[05:07] <Warbo> tmccrary: Put them in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/Resources/Themes in a folder with the name of the theme, then fire up winecfg and look in Desktop Integration tab
[05:07] <tmccrary> okay cool
[05:07] <nomasteryoda> tach00,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-186356.html
[05:07] <JDSBlueDevl> Warbo: where are you?
[05:08] <Warbo> tmccrary: I have tried a few and they all work, although some are a little crappy :)
[05:08] <kkaisare> mary-kate: Perchance Badger has already been relegated to history. I'm not sure though.
[05:08] <tmccrary> okay cool, thanks man, I appreciate the help
[05:08] <mary-kate> relegated?
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> tach00, did you do dist-upgrade?
[05:08] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It doesn't matter if you add modules which you don't need, so just add any which are relevant. I have no idea what PATA ones are called though, I will Google
[05:08] <tach00> yes
[05:09] <kkaisare> mary-kate: redirected, if you like. :)
[05:09] <cjfp> How can I get Firefox to open text source code files in a new tab?
[05:09] <cjfp> I looked at /etc/mime.types but I don't understand.
[05:09] <tach00> i was using synaptic when i accidentally clicked kemirror and the it just started with the errors
[05:09] <mary-kate> ah
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> cjfp, i would guess you can do that with the developer extension
[05:09] <tach00> now i cant gt r of it nor can i reinstall it
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> web developer
[05:10] <cjfp> nomasteryoda: is there a way just to make firefox ignore mime-types?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> kemirror?
[05:10] <tach00> sorry the keyboard is my other issue, not speling wrong on purpose
[05:10] <iJeff> Does anyone know how I can revert my top window button placement back on the right? I had switched it to the left to make it look more like OSX but I can't switch it back
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> cjfp, sure if you type about:config in the address bar
[05:10] <cjfp> i mean, anything matching text/x-*, i just want to open in a tab...
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> google it
[05:10] <tach00> yes for windows ce, didnt mean to install it
[05:10] <Warbo> iJeff: In KDE?
[05:10] <nomasteryoda> tach00, ic
[05:10] <kkaisare> mary-kate: Still, I'm not sure. And as long as the repositories are available, I assume that the packages may be updated on occasion. Seems too much to ask them to manage two issues at once, though.
[05:11] <cjfp> nomasteryoda: yes, i've been looking at about:config, that's how i found out about /etc/mime.types
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> tach00, can you do apt-get install --fix-missing?
[05:11] <tach00> i have tried every apt-get command i know and nothing works
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> more problems, I tried writing what was in that BootFromUSB to the file in nano, and it's telling me that the file system is read-only
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> what does that mean/
[05:11] <JDSBlueDevl> ?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> apt-get remove clvm -f
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> -f = force
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> use da force, you will
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It seems like KNOPPIX mounts stuff read only, so do the "mount -o remount -rw /path/to/ubuntu" command again
[05:12] <amonkey> when i try to run gnome-window-decorator i get the error (gnome-window-decorator:14184): Pango-CRITICAL **: pango_color_parse: assertion `spec != NULL' failed. what does that mean?
[05:12] <cjfp> i guess i can ask on #firefox, i thought it was a ubuntu thing
[05:12] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that
[05:12] <JDSBlueDevl> try it again?
[05:12] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes
[05:12] <iJeff> Warbo: in Gnome
[05:13] <tach00> however did not try those, trying now
[05:13] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, saved
[05:13] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Some of those USB ones may be a good idea, since they inckuse SCSI ones, but PATA will need some more (although adding all of the USB ones is not a problem, you just end up with a slightly bigger initrd.img)
[05:13] <JDSBlueDevl> next, do the dpkg-reconfigure, right?
[05:13] <an0malist> I just installed windows on another partiiton on this pc and it overwrote my MBR.. im in the ubuntu live CD now.. how do I restore grub?
[05:14] <mary-kate> okie dokie i bbl if i have anymore ?'s ttyl
[05:14] <tach00> Errors were encountered while processing:
[05:14] <tach00>  clvm
[05:14] <tach00> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1
[05:14] <Warbo> iJeff: I don't know the syntax for Metacity config files sorry (but I know they are in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes)
[05:14] <tach00> im telling you, this problem is strange
[05:15] <Warbo> sudo grub-install /dev/hda (where hda is your drive)
[05:15] <an0malist> man, i tried that
[05:15] <an0malist> i knew i was right
[05:15] <an0malist> check this out:
[05:15] <an0malist> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:15] <an0malist> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[05:15] <an0malist> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device.
[05:15] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what was the command for the dpkg-reconfigure?
[05:15] <nomasteryoda> tach00, have you rebooted since?
[05:16] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Well you need to chroot into your Ubuntu system first, then do "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.15-23-386"
[05:16] <netuser-ctba> Boa noite.. algum do Brasil aqui?
[05:16] <tach00> many times
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> uh oh, gave me the same permission denied errors in 15-25
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean go to 15-23?
[05:16] <tach00> the only thing i havent done is a total reinstall
[05:16] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:17] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[05:17] <JDSBlueDevl> crap, I put in sudo
[05:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Use which ever kernel you want to reconfigure (the one you are going to use)
[05:17] <amonkey> i can't get gnome-window-decorator to start, can anyone help?
[05:17] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Sudo won't work, but su will
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> permission denied again
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> this isn't helping
[05:18] <tach00> my system does not like me
[05:18] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hmm. That is weird, try "ls -l whateverfilehaspermissiondenied"
[05:18] <JDSBlueDevl> this is output for ls -l /dev/null
[05:19] <wastrel> the word of the day is "yipe"
[05:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Ah, /dev/null, I can do that :)
[05:19] <JDSBlueDevl> crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 3 May 20 00:00 /dev/null
[05:19] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, and that's only the tip of the iceberg
[05:19] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Go into a new root terminal and run "mount --bind /dev /path/to/ubuntu/dev"
[05:20] <Michael-DK> hi all
[05:20] <an0malist> Anyone have any ideas?:
[05:20] <an0malist> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:20] <an0malist> Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[05:20] <an0malist> Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block dev
[05:20] <sapta> hi...
[05:20] <tach00> are you REALLY the master yoda?
[05:20] <Michael-DK> how the heck do i get flash installed on Ubuntu 64 bit
[05:20] <JDSBlueDevl> you mean /mnt/hda1/dev?
[05:20] <Warbo> Michael-DK: Install linux32
[05:21] <an0malist> yep michael
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> master yoda, me not
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> because when I did that, it said that mount point /mnt/hda1/dev does not exist
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> hence the name
[05:21] <wastrel> Michael-DK:  apparently you create a 32bit chroot
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:21] <Michael-DK> Warbo oooh ok thx
[05:21] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Yes, that will redirect any program looking in your Ubuntu's /dev into KNOPPIX's /dev
[05:21] <tach00> well i believe it will take a master to fix my machine
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> or "no, master yoda" I can't lift the xwing
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> oops, b/c I initially did it without the /dev in hda1
[05:21] <Warbo> wastrel: You can do that, or use linux32 to run 32bit apps in 64bit
[05:21] <JDSBlueDevl> how do I undo that?
[05:21] <wastrel> okey dokey
[05:22] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: use "umount /path/to/what/you/want/to/unmount" (binding is a type of mounting)
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> tach00, boot into the safe mode and try to do apt-get update
[05:22] <tach00> too bad one of you linux guru's can't telnet into my machine and fix my problem lol
[05:22] <tach00> dd that
[05:22] <tach00> did
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> tach00, can you setup ssh?
[05:22] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, did that, then redid the mount
[05:22] <tach00> ???
[05:22] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> if you portforwarded from your router the ssh
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> then someone could ssh into it
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> really
[05:23] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Try again?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> not me though
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> yeah, I just bound
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> what next?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> my firewall is too tight
[05:23] <tach00> tell me how and i will
[05:23] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I mean the dpkg-reconfigure
[05:23] <an0malist> lol
[05:23] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:23] <an0malist> im just patiently waiting my turn for help with this grub reinstall
[05:23] <neotard> epiphany is a pretty good browser, better than firefox methinks :)
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, just waiting now
[05:24] <Warbo> Epiphany is great, you don;t get all of that plugin crap
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> how long should it hang?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> an0malist, have you looked online for directions?
[05:24] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: dpkg-reconfigure worked?
[05:24] <wastrel> hmm epiphany eh.
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> looks like it
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> no more permission denied
[05:24] <an0malist> yeah, and im still looking now...
[05:24] <JDSBlueDevl> I guess it's time to reboot
[05:25] <Michael-DK> well bedtime for me 5.20 am here :-)) cya all and goodnight/ BTW im known as Mike-X2
[05:25] <JDSBlueDevl> I should probably rebuild for 15-23 first
[05:25] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Then Linux will have access to all of the modules you added when you boot into Ubuntu now, so if you bothered to add some PATA ones then it will have direct access to your PATA drive
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> an0malist, this might help you http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2689.html
[05:25] <keithhhhh> what is the best video editing software for ubuntu?
[05:25] <wastrel> there's video editing software ?
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> LOL
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> keno?
[05:26] <Warbo> keithhhhh: I like LiVES, but it seems to screw up when saving :(
[05:26] <JDSBlueDevl> I don't know what the PATA ones are, though
[05:26] <Warbo> Kino and even Blender are good
[05:26] <doubletwist> So what's the most current, method of getting xgl/compiz working? I keep finding different methods and don't know which one works the best currently.
[05:26] <wastrel> doubletwist:  did you ask on #ubuntu-xgl ?
[05:26] <doubletwist> oops, no
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> doubletwist: Check in #ubuntu-xgl
[05:27] <doubletwist> Didn't know about that one. Thanks.
[05:27] <ajax4> How do I enable the "Run..." option on the Start menu?
[05:27] <keithhhhh> Warbo:  thanks ;)
[05:27] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Neither do I, but I know someone who does http://uk.ask.com/web?q=What+the+hell+are+the+PATA+modules+in+Linux+kernels+called%3F&qsrc=0&o=312&dm=all
[05:27] <Macbook001> I have huge balls
[05:28] <doubletwist> classy
[05:28] <Macbook001> But of course.
[05:28] <Warbo> Macbook001: In your mouse?
[05:28] <JDSBlueDevl> well, that helped
[05:28] <JDSBlueDevl> I wish
[05:29] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be ide_generic?
[05:29] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: "ls /lib/modules/*" look in there for some modules
[05:29] <JDSBlueDevl> ok
[05:29] <phill64> Hmm
[05:30] <JDSBlueDevl> I just have to redo everything b/c I tried rebooting, and it didn't work with the modules file the way it is
[05:30] <phill64> May I start a separate, very noobish discussion?
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> phill64, shoot away
[05:31] <phill64> Hmm
[05:31] <ocha> mehaio
[05:31] <phill64> Where is a good documentation on how to delete an old Linux parition
[05:31] <phill64> [SUSE] 
[05:31] <phill64> and install a dualboot for Windows
[05:31] <Warbo> phill64: Just use GParted
[05:31] <Warbo> !gparted
[05:31] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> phill64, yes gparted
[05:31] <phill64> hmm
[05:31] <nomasteryoda> best way
[05:32] <taklz> hi i have a question when ready
[05:32] <phill64> Wheres some docs on gparted
[05:32] <nomasteryoda> just make sure you umount it
[05:32] <phill64> No idea. =P
[05:32] <ajax4> taklz: go ahead
[05:32] <taklz> alright
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> phill64: Don't really need one.  Installing Windows will overwrite it by default, then you can just read the dual-boot docs for Ubuntu.
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, found what looks like a whole bunch of modules
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.alias
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.ccwmap
[05:32] <taklz> when i shutdown it doesn't shut down
[05:32] <taklz> lol
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> modules.dep
[05:32] <taklz> it gives me a weird looking screen
[05:32] <taklz> and just never shuts down
[05:32] <JDSBlueDevl> none of these telling me anything
[05:32] <taklz> and i have to do it manually
[05:32] <ajax4> Does Gparted also copy over the MBR?
[05:32] <taklz> using my buttons
[05:33] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: There is a whole directory structure, and each module file ends in ".ko"
[05:33] <JDSBlueDevl> well, nothing ends in .ko
[05:33] <JDSBlueDevl> are you sure I'm looking in the right place?
[05:33] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Hang on
[05:33] <wastrel> find / -name "*ko"
[05:34] <taklz> err
[05:34] <taklz> since ajax left
[05:34] <taklz> can someone else help me?
[05:34] <wastrel> taklz:  windows will write itself to the mbr when it installs
[05:34] <phill64> Um.
[05:34] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, I see, they're in the separate directories within the kernel directory
[05:35] <phill64> What if you already have Windows installed?
[05:35] <taklz> confused
[05:35] <wastrel> oops wrong person :]   sorry taklz
[05:35] <taklz> haha
[05:35] <taklz> alright
[05:35] <taklz> lol
[05:35] <wastrel> phill64: you have windows installed, install linux, then boot both with grub.
[05:35] <phill64> Uhuh.
[05:35] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, what now?
[05:35] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I can't really find anything in my directory which looks like it might be PATA, I have looked in ide, char & block
[05:35] <dribble> hey guys, so. . .my boxes cannot resolve each others names on the same subnet.  when doing rsync/scp between them, hell, even to ping, i need to explicitly enter the relevent IP address.  how can i remedy this?
[05:36] <an0malist> just make sure you install windows first :P
[05:36] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be under initrd, kernel, or madwifi?
[05:36] <an0malist> cuz Microsoft doesn't give a SHIT about your linux install
[05:36] <an0malist> then you'll be stuck like me
[05:36] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: If you find some thing that you want to try then write it into the modules file (without the .ko) and it will be built into the initrd
[05:36] <dr_willis> or you learn how grub works :)
[05:37] <phill64> Oh
[05:37] <wastrel> dribble:  add them to /etc/hosts  ?
[05:37] <JDSBlueDevl> would it be under fs?
[05:37] <phill64> Grub is sort of easy to config.
[05:37] <dribble> wastrel, so i have to do it explicitly?
[05:37] <an0malist> yeah and thats what im doing, but i do find this rather rediclous.. I don't spend a lot of time working in GRUB, so i shouldn't have to spend alot of time just getting it to work
[05:37] <phill64> lol
[05:37] <dr_willis> phill64,  its amazing what all grub can do.
[05:37] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I think it will be under block or maybe ide, but they seem a little generic, or they just have numbers. Nothing says "pata.ko" or something
[05:37] <phill64> I heard it booted somewhere like 100 different OS's,.
[05:37] <Alethes> is there a musicbrainz capable tag editor for gnome?
[05:38] <an0malist> yeah yeah yeah
[05:38] <dr_willis> Grub is one of the top 10 things to learn about - to become linux profficient. :P
[05:38] <taklz> when i shutdown my computer it hangs at a screen with a bunch of different colors all messed up and never shuts down unless i do it manually
[05:38] <Alethes> amarok does it, but I don't want to install all the kde crap just to use musicbrainz
[05:38] <JDSBlueDevl> ooh, I might actually have it formatted at ext2 or ext3
[05:38] <an0malist> bah, im just running the command like ubuntu help file said
[05:38] <an0malist> and grub spits in my face :D
[05:38] <Warbo> phill64: GRUB can boot any PC OS, since it can "chainload" which basically lets any other bootloader run, that's how it boots Windows
[05:38] <phill64> Oh also, Should I have a new partition as Extended on hdb or primary?
[05:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: That shouldn't matter, as long as your /etc/fstab is right
[05:39] <Warbo> woah
[05:39] <rpedro> Alethes:  ex falso is a tag editor , don't know that it does musicbrainz though
[05:39] <JDSBlueDevl> and anything with a hyphen should be turned into an underscore, right?
[05:39] <JDSBlueDevl> oh, nvm
[05:39] <Alethes> * Received a malformed DCC request from er[0] nbcn.
[05:39] <Alethes> (23:38:43) * Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[05:39] <phill64> All I want is [I'm guessing 20gigs?]  for / and 30gigs for /home; how would I do this in gparted.
[05:39] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I think either works
[05:39] <phill64> and what the hell is wrong with this?
[05:40] <dr_willis> Alethes,  that just kicked off more people. :P
[05:40] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: I have a good idea, run "lsmod" in KNOPPIX to see what it is using
[05:40] <phill64> Ahh, to many people are leaving , I can't read.
[05:40] <passwordddd> hello where can i see the os releases of linux?
[05:40] <wastrel> !ops
[05:40] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:40] <Warbo> Another Freenode server must be playing up
[05:40] <dr_willis> phill64,  thats why i normally have parts/joines hidden by default
[05:40] <JDSBlueDevl> I think it might be the ide-generic
[05:40] <wastrel> thanks
[05:40] <dr_willis> passwordddd,  Huh? clarify that.
[05:40] <wastrel> woo that's a new twist.
[05:40] <phill64> How do I hide joins then?
[05:41] <phill64> In gaim.
[05:41] <HedgeMage> nalioth: klined it already :)
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> how  to read *.chm on unbuntu linux
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> ?
[05:41] <nalioth> thanks, HedgeMage
[05:41] <passwordddd> dr_willis
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> help me
[05:41] <passwordddd> the os of linux
[05:41] <taklz> can anyone help me at all? :o
[05:41] <wastrel> !dcc
[05:41] <jpgvietnam> how ?
[05:41] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[05:41] <passwordddd> like ubuntu, redhat, etc
[05:41] <passwordddd> i want to see all
[05:41] <jonath__> !opsj
[05:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about opsj
[05:41] <wastrel> jonath__:  taken care of
[05:41] <jonath__> !ops
[05:41] <martin__> hello everyone... I've got a question which might be a simple sed alteration - am I in the right place?
[05:41] <dr_willis> passwordddd,  google for that disrtowatch web site
[05:41] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!
[05:42] <passwordddd> thanks
[05:42] <wastrel> dribble:  i think that's the easiest way
[05:42] <hawkaloogie> jonath__, don't do that
[05:42] <wastrel> martin__:  sure
[05:42] <HedgeMage> At least they're dumb enough to do it to staffers, too :)
[05:42] <Hobbsee_phone> hi lilo
[05:43] <HedgeMage> lilo: some DCC exploit troublemakers
[05:43] <HedgeMage> lilo: I'm klining them as we go
[05:43] <NickGarvey> lock and load!
[05:43] <Zenethian> How do I reconfigure Ubuntu to understand that my system clock is NOT set to GMT?
[05:43] <wastrel> set up a bot to just kline them
[05:43] <wastrel> nobody's got a legit reason to dcc a bot
[05:43] <s|tecrack> Howdy lilo :D Ready for another pwnage?
[05:44] <ardchoille> HedgeMage: Thank you :)
[05:44] <dr_willis> Im still curious as to how that exploit works on one port.. but not a differnt one.
[05:44] <HedgeMage> ardchoille: np babe
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Zenethian: Erm, I might be able to find that file - hold on a sec.
[05:44] <martin__> hello wastrel - I'm a bit of a noob I'm afraid, but I've taken the plunge as it were - I'm almost there with setting everything up 'just so'... but I'm having a little trouble with a BC news rss feed in conky - at the end of each line I'm getting the []  box character (unrecognised character) and I'm not sure what to do about it
[05:44] <tmccrary> okay cool, themes definately work okay in wine. Now, how do I change the font? The default one is horrible and very windows like and it doesn't fit with my desktop. Anyone know how to change the font in wine?
[05:44] <lilo> dr_willis: it's designed to spot trojan activity on port 6667 and shut it off....the exploit fakes the activity
[05:45] <s|k> hrm
[05:45] <s|k> what is happening?
[05:45] <dr_willis> lilo,  so its a feature that causes a bigger problem then it fix's :P
[05:45] <wastrel> martin__:  it's probably a windows linefeed character...  is this a static file?  don't know anything about conky
[05:45] <Warbo> tmccrary: I know I did it somehow a while ago, but couldn't change it back. I had an ugly WINE for about a year
[05:45] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:45] <martin__> wastrel: no, it's a grep output
[05:45] <LoRez> Warning: `bugs__,ed^c4rl^^,ed_rush,fragile_m,marc3lus|gone,v5h4rkx^888' seems to be spamming, please discontinue or kicks/kills/klines will be issued.
[05:45] <Hobbsee_phone> lilo!
[05:45] <NickGarvey> go away...
[05:45] <charle97> wow
[05:46] <Alethes> whew
[05:46] <HedgeMage> grr
[05:46] <Healot> someone hate freenode so much?
[05:46] <NickGarvey> dr_willis: yeah, like some firewalls would flipout with "startkeylo*ger", because it would watch that port and watch for a virus attack
[05:46] <eon> what packages do i have to get to use gcc in Ubuntu?  i got gcc and make
[05:46] <charle97> how do we know we're infected?
[05:46] <Healot> or a disgruntled user?
[05:46] <NickGarvey> Healot: trolls hate everyone
[05:46] <eon> but when i run configure it errors out
[05:46] <wastrel> it wouldn't disrupt the channel if people would just fix their junk :p
[05:46] <eon> on anything
[05:46] <hawkaloogie> eon, build-essentials
[05:46] <Warbo> eon: build-essential
[05:46] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:46] <ruxpin> can I compile from source via synaptics?
[05:46] <PORDO> i just wrote my friend at intel about the new xeon specs.  he replied...
[05:46] <nalioth> !dcc > Alethes
[05:46] <PORDO> Yessir!  Just wait for the chipset with 1333Mhz FSB, the DDR2-1066,
[05:46] <PORDO> supporting dual-Conroe (4 core) Desktop CPUs in the next half...
[05:46] <PORDO> bwahaha.  I'm still working on BIOS for said chipset.
[05:46] <NickGarvey> and the ban hammer falls!
[05:46] <martin__> wastrel: it uses curl to get the feed, then uses regular expressions to cut out the html tags
[05:46] <JDSBlueDevl> ok, here goes nothing
[05:47] <Alethes> nalioth:  thanks :)
[05:47] <NickGarvey> does the D*C thing happen only on windows?
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> yup, ide-generic was it
[05:47] <wastrel> martin__:  i'd pipe it thru perl and use chomp but i bet there's a better way...
[05:47] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[05:47] <martin__> wastrel: what's the etiquette with pasting a (very short) bit of code?
[05:47] <PORDO> hrm...what's with all the joins?
[05:47] <NickGarvey> where you get booted?
[05:47] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: It boots now?
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> yup
[05:47] <Alethes> whoever I disconnected by that, I apologize, I was just trying to find out what that text was
[05:47] <wastrel> martin__:  anything beyond 2 or 3 lines goes to pastebin
[05:47] <wastrel> !pastebin
[05:47] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:47] <JDSBlueDevl> well, I also put in ide-scsi
[05:47] <Warbo> JDSBlueDevl: Wow, I was really expecting this method to fail :)
[05:47] <wastrel> !dcc
[05:47] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[05:47] <NickGarvey> oh its the routers
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Zenethian: Gah, I can never remember where that setting is.  I have grep running though.
[05:48] <JDSBlueDevl> well, now you know
[05:48] <wastrel> Anyone wondering why they keep disconnecting?  Read the DCC thing above.
[05:48] <Macbook001> Is it true guys?
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: is what?
[05:48] <dr_willis> Alethes,  heh - been there , done that by mistake befor also.
[05:48] <Macbook001> I hear this room sucks
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: that it really isn't butter?
[05:48] <martin__> wastrel: :) $EXEC $URI | grep title |\ sed -e :a  -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' |\ sed -e 's/[ \t] *//' |\ sed -e 's/\(.*\)/ \1/' |\ sed -e 's/\.//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ head -n $(($LINES + 3)) |\ tail -n $(($LINES))
[05:48] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:48] <NickGarvey> Macbook001: yeah dude, it really isn't
[05:48] <JDSBlueDevl> thx a lot for eventually getting me there
[05:48] <Macbook001> It's not butter at all.
[05:48] <Warbo> Macbook001: Well it does with you in it :)
[05:48] <Macbook001> WHAT?
[05:48] <martin__> wastrel: unfortunately I'm no regexp man....
[05:48] <NickGarvey> oh thats a blaze
[05:48] <Alethes> dr_willis:  I probably made myself even more ignorant of the issue by disabling join/part messages, so I didn't see anybody disconnect
[05:48] <Hobbsee> nalioth:
[05:49] <woo> What. The. Fuck.
[05:49] <phill64> Hey Wastrel, can you respond to my pm's, my screen resolution can only handle about two lines of text and I'm unable to read anything due to whatever the hell is going on.
[05:49] <wastrel> this is a disruptive attack where people join and leave repeatedly
[05:49] <NickGarvey> oh when the trolls.. oh when the trolls... oh when the trolls go marching in.. I would hate to be of that number.. oh when the trolls go marching in
[05:49] <lilo> =wohe (C
[05:49] <arapehl> uhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this through apt-get?
[05:49] <dr_willis> Alethes,  with attacks like these going on  - i normally keep parts/joions hidden as well
[05:49] <NickGarvey> woo: I would suggest using an install
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lock it down
[05:49] <Alethes> heya lilo -- ltns
[05:49] <Zenethian> Well, I guess that's just odd.
[05:49] <lilo> hi Alethes
[05:50] <lilo> Alethes: don't repeat those exploits, they're still live 8)
[05:50] <Alethes> I wasn't even aware of the exploit
[05:50] <lilo> nalioth: that one may have been registered, looked like it
[05:50] <lilo> Alethes: ah, okay
[05:50] <nalioth> lilo: i've spoken with him in a time out
[05:50] <synacktion> lilo, help all us lost souls!!!!
[05:50] <Alethes> I'm only half paying attention here most of the time
[05:50] <nalioth> woo: watch your language please
[05:50] <Alethes> I just noticed that text and wondered what the hell it was
[05:50] <woo> NickGarvey: What? I am. I'm using the latest Dapper install cd.
[05:50] <woo> nalioth: Sorry.
[05:50] <NickGarvey> woo: the live cd or the install cd?
[05:50] <NickGarvey> the install cd is more.. stable in my opinion
[05:51] <taklz> hi can anyone help me
[05:51] <NickGarvey> not that the live cd isn't a well developed piece of software.. but you get the point :)
[05:51] <Warbo> !helpme
[05:51] <NickGarvey> taklz: ask away
[05:51] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:51] <taklz> ok
[05:51] <taklz> lol
[05:51] <Tom7e> i have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..
[05:51] <taklz> when i shutdown my computer it hangs at a funny looking screen and i eventually have to manually shut it down
[05:51] <polishkoop> How do I go about installing bitchx on ubuntu dapper?
[05:51] <woo> NickGarvey: Heheh, I'm not sure, The live cd, but what would cause the hang?
[05:51] <nalioth> polishkoop: use synaptic
[05:52] <Warbo> taklz: Can you do ctrl-alt-f1 or ctrl-alt-f8 when it does this?
[05:52] <Springer> taklz, you're probably on windows 95
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: (the live cd is kind of unstable, I suggest the install cd if you can spare the blanks)
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: I'm not sure
[05:52] <taklz> umm
[05:52] <Zenethian> I kinda wish I had used the install CD when reinstalling.  The live CD did OK but it was too simple, IMO.
[05:52] <taklz> id have to try
[05:52] <phill64> Wait, the livecd as in the cd that get shipped?
[05:52] <taklz> and im not on windows 95
[05:52] <taklz> lol
[05:52] <woo> NickGarvey: I'll do that as a last resort, link?
[05:52] <NickGarvey> taklz: hmm.. do you "shutdown" or "halt"?
[05:52] <wastrel> okey dokey.
[05:52] <taklz> shutdown
[05:52] <Warbo> taklz: That lets you change to different consoles, so you may see some messages about what is going on
[05:52] <NickGarvey> woo: um.. just go to the ubuntu site.. and there is a install link there
[05:52] <taklz> with the buttoms ubuntu has in its gui
[05:52] <polishkoop> nalioth: nothing shows up
[05:52] <Zenethian> Which is why I'm having problems with timezones and Ubuntu thinking that my clock is set to GMT
[05:53] <taklz> oh ok
[05:53] <phill64> Hmm, ok so the cd that they ship, doesn't work that well, right?
[05:53] <taklz> yea im pretty sure i cant
[05:53] <taklz> its just a messed up looking screen
[05:53] <nalioth> polishkoop: do you have universe and multiverse repos enabled?
[05:53] <byen> anyone know how to remove a distro on another drive and reinstall Ubuntu grub?
[05:53] <polishkoop> nalioth: i'm new.  I don't know.
[05:53] <woo> NickGarvey: It's not like frozen, the cursor is blinking and stuff, it just doesn't go forward.
[05:53] <Warbo> The desktop CD makes a very good installer for most people, whilst the text installer makes an adequate installer for everyone
[05:53] <nalioth> !sources > polishkoop
[05:53] <nalioth> polishkoop: incoming PM from the info bot
[05:54] <martin__> is there a shell equivalent to chop/chomp?
[05:54] <wastrel> !grub > byen
[05:54] <arapehl> uhm... *blush*... how would I go about installing this (http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/msttcorefonts) through apt-get?
[05:54] <byen> wastrel: thanks :P
[05:55] <an0malist> if you're using ubuntu, just use synaptic
[05:55] <ocha> hi
[05:55] <Warbo> If I have built a kernel module is there any way to get it to reinstall itself if the kernel gets upgraded?
[05:55] <woo> NickGarvey: The Alternate install cd, or the server install?
[05:55] <martin__> arapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:55] <arapehl> an0malist: yeah, but I can't find the package in synaptic and I've got all the repositories checked off.. I'm not sure how to add the right repository to get this thing to show up though.
[05:55] <nalioth> arapehl: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[05:55] <Warbo> !fonts
[05:55] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[05:55] <Warbo> !multiverse
[05:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:55] <NickGarvey> 	woo: alternate
[05:56] <martin__> nalioth: snap :p
[05:56] <arapehl> martin__, nalioth: yeah, says it's outdated :-/
[05:56] <wastrel> martin__:  perl -e 'while(<>){chomp; print; print "\n";}'  but that's horribly kludgy
[05:56] <nalioth> arapehl: use synaptic
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ok gonna try to go back to sleep now
[05:57] <NickGarvey> gnomefreak: night :)
[05:57] <gnomefreak> night
[05:57] <martin__> wastrel: I'd need to add a further pipe with that in?
[05:57] <wastrel> martin__:  yes :] 
[05:57] <Warbo> I'm still feeling very offended at being called a troll for using su
[05:57] <arapehl> nalioth: any details on how if I can't find msttcorefonts when searching for it?
[05:57] <arapehl> (I'll try again though)
[05:57] <nalioth> Warbo: nobody cares what you use, just what you advise others to use
[05:58] <Warbo> !tell arapehl about multiverse
[05:58] <nalioth> !repos > arapehl
[05:58] <wastrel> Warbo:  i defended you <3
[05:58] <nalioth> arapehl: you have inbound PMs
[05:58] <woo> NickGarvey: Damn, at 1500KB download speedI can't complain.
[05:58] <phill64> wastrel, you have pms
[05:58] <Warbo> nalioth: Well, when sudo doesn;t work but su does then I think I will recommend su for use in chroot in the future
[05:58] <ubuntu> alright
[05:58] <wastrel> phill64:  i'm not seeing any ...
[05:58] <ubuntu> i'm using the latest liveCD (6.06
[05:58] <nalioth> Warbo: please do not advise it in here
[05:58] <ubuntu> i can't find a valid guide for WPA Supplicant
[05:58] <ubuntu> on the wiki..
[05:58] <ubuntu> i've never used WPA supplicant and so i'm lost.
[05:59] <ubuntu> help would be appreciated
[05:59] <NickGarvey> !wpa > ubuntu
[05:59] <Warbo> nalioth: Sorry, you mustn't have been reading the situation. Sudo works in a normal Ubuntu install, but you have to use su in a chroot
[05:59] <moc_cando> hi malungkot
[05:59] <phill64> Wastrel, you really don't see any?
[05:59] <nalioth> !patience
[05:59] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped.
[05:59] <wastrel> phill64:  yeah.  are you identified?  this network doesn't allow /msg from users who aren't nickserv identified
[05:59] <woo> I'll try one more time before burning the CD....
[05:59] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: If you type 5 things incorrectly it ignores you.
[06:00] <arapehl_> nalioth: ??
[06:00] <ubuntu> oopsie
[06:00] <Mike-X2> hi all
[06:00] <ubuntu> closed the window by accident
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> NickGarvey: Or, if you try to use functions by guessing at how they may work, same thing.
[06:00] <nalioth> arapehl_: did you get some private messages?
[06:00] <ubuntu> alright, so anyway
[06:00] <martin__> wastrel: :S I'm not sure I've got this right... well, I obviously havent : it's not working....
[06:00] <ubuntu> i can't find any guide for WPA supplicant
[06:00] <ubuntu> someone sent me a PM and i lost it
[06:00] <moc_cando> malungkot
[06:00] <arapehl_> oh
[06:00] <moc_cando> asan ka na
[06:00] <Healot> !wpa
[06:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:00] <malungkot> andito ako
[06:00] <arapehl_> uhm... (/me = noob... )
[06:00] <Hobbsee> !wpa > ubuntu
[06:00] <Healot> !ph
[06:00] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[06:00] <nalioth> malungkot: english please in #ubuntu
[06:01] <ubuntu> Healot: i think i looked there, but it only had a guide fro ubuntu 5.03 or something
[06:01] <Healot> damn tagalog
[06:01] <nalioth> Healot: be nice
[06:01] <Healot> no, just I don't think such channel exist
[06:01] <nalioth> Healot: it does. i know a few folks who stay in there
[06:01] <Warbo> Hang on, I came in here 2 hours ago to get my CD writer working, and never got one reply
[06:02] <arapehl_> nalioth: actually no... I'm using xchat so I don't know if that's why.
[06:02] <Healot> !sa
[06:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about sa
[06:02] <nalioth> arapehl_: no new tabs?
 These instructions are targeted toward Ubuntu 5.10 (breezy). For Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) see [WWW]  http://wiki.debian.org/WPA, section
[06:02] <ubuntu> Healot: ^
[06:03] <arapehl> nalioth: sh*t... wtf... okay, yeah, I've got something here from ubotu (somehow xchat was opened twice... :-/)
[06:03] <Zenethian> oof
[06:04] <Warbo> OK, I'm going to reboot to plug in my CD writer. When I come back I'd better get some help :)
[06:04] <martin__> wastrel: $EXEC $URI | grep title |\ sed -e :a  -e 's/<[^>] *>//g' |\ sed -e 's/[ \t] *//' |\ sed -e 's/\(.*\)/ \1/' |\ sed -e 's/\.//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ sed -e 's/\"//' |\ head -n $(($LINES + 3)) |\ tail -n $(($LINES)) |\ perl -e 'while(<>){chomp; print; print "\n";}'
[06:04] <martin__> wastrel: am I being stupid?
[06:04] <nomasteryoda> gag
[06:05] <wastrel> martin__:  tr -d '\r'   might work too...
[06:05] <wastrel> but you'll want to put it before th head & tail i think
[06:05] <arapehl> alright, I'm about as confused as all get out
[06:05] <Ubuntu> hi
[06:06] <khnh> hi guys,
[06:06] <martin__> wastrel: either way, the line produces nothing....
[06:06] <khnh> i just install new driver for my wireless card but don't know how to load it
[06:07] <sallu> hello
[06:07] <sallu> hello
[06:07] <Ubuntu> how do i install a theme.... Since when I do install a theme is does not show  up in the theme prefs
[06:07] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done". Not totally frozen, because the cursor is blinking, but, it just doesn't go forward...
[06:07] <sallu> re you there
[06:08] <stephan_1> how do i install nvidia
[06:08] <sallu> i know the solution
[06:08] <stephan_1> ok?
[06:08] <sallu> ok
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> !nvidia > stephan_1
[06:08] <stephan_1> !nvidia
[06:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:09] <sallu> ubuntu linux is the best linux ever
[06:09] <khnh> how do you load a new installed driver
[06:09] <sallu> i don't know
[06:10] <martin__> wastrel: if I run the full command in a terminal, it complains about each command - sed, head, tail, perl etc
[06:10] <JerryMcFarts> i am having a problem.. My brother lost his password to his AIM account, and we got our aim accounts back in the day '94 or so. He can't remember his email that he used to register the account
[06:10] <JerryMcFarts> it there anyway to get his password?
[06:10] <JerryMcFarts> brutefore is the only thing im thinking of..
[06:11] <Zenethian> Hrm
[06:11] <Loopit> how do i install a theme.... Since when I do install a theme is does not show  up in the theme prefs
[06:11] <wastrel> JerryMcFarts:  did your brother use gaim?
[06:12] <wastrel> martin__:  i dunno - try starting at the left and adding one at a time...
[06:12] <polishkoop> nalioth: thanks a lot, that web site you gave me was very helpful.  I was used to debian's way.
[06:12] <JerryMcFarts> nope
[06:12] <dstyrk> Hi again all.. need some more help.  I was finally was able to burn this iso.. AND get it too boot.. But somewhere in the middle of the booting sequence, after the Unbuntu logo and some of the check steps appear.. The screen goes black and nothing else happens.. What gives?
[06:12] <JerryMcFarts> wastrel, he used AIM but we just reformated his computer
[06:13] <JerryMcFarts> wastrel, and he enver had to enter it.. so he forgot it
[06:13] <PORDO> has anyone ever heard of any type of decentralized social networkin system?  sort of like a replacement for myspace, where there is some xml-based way of defining your user profile, and you basically have a user@domain ?
[06:13] <wastrel> JerryMcFarts:  i don't suppose you backed up his files.?  it may be in the aim config
[06:13] <JerryMcFarts> wastrel, nope
[06:13] <martin__> wastrel: sorry, that was the |\ instead of just | .... I wondered why it was |\ in the first place....
[06:13] <efox> ls
[06:13] <wastrel> no idea...
[06:13] <efox> lol
[06:13] <efox> sorry
[06:13] <efox> wrong box
[06:13] <JerryMcFarts> wastrel, so bruteforce the only option?
[06:13] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: you are off topic in here, sir.
[06:14] <martin__> wastrel: anyway - i've still got the bleeding boxes :(
[06:14] <martin__> wastrel: I'll try /r/n
[06:14] <dstyrk> Any ideas anyone?
[06:14] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, what do you want from me? im looking for help
[06:14] <wastrel> JerryMcFarts:  no idea...
[06:14] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: we do not discuss cracking things
[06:14] <wastrel> martin__:  put some output on pastebin
[06:14] <wastrel> !pastebin
[06:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:15] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: you can email or otw msg aol for your user info
[06:15] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, otw?
[06:15] <wastrel> dstyrk:  you've got the livecd?
[06:15] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, yea I told him he should call AOL.. lol
[06:15] <nalioth> JerryMcFarts: otw = otherwise
[06:15] <JerryMcFarts> nalioth, sorry :-P
[06:15] <Loopit> where can I find some really good gnome themes
[06:15] <dstyrk> wastrel:  if the desktop ISO is considered the live then yes
[06:16] <JerryMcFarts> Have a good day, off to find an answer
[06:16] <martin__> wastrel: I dont know how to - sorry, I'm new to this...
[06:17] <wastrel> martin__:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org  - paste your command and the output there and put the URL in the channel here
[06:17] <stephan_1> !nvidia
[06:17] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:17] <wastrel> dstyrk:  try booting with noacpi in the boot options ...
[06:17] <wastrel> er, dstyrk that's noapic
[06:17] <martin__> wastrel: Sorry - I meant - I dont know how to show the output. in the terminal there isnt' a problem
[06:18] <martin__> wastrel: it's only when it's displayed on-screen
[06:18] <wastrel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions  dstyrk
[06:18] <wastrel> martin__:  which screen?
[06:18] <martin__> wastrel: conky outputs to background
[06:19] <tach00> ok the dpkg keeps trying to replace kcemirror and i dont even think its on my system, how do i remove whatever line is causeing package manager to see that
[06:19] <dstyrk> wastrel:  I don't know what that is.  I never made it to any options..  It was in the middle of the hardware checks (I think) and then the screen went blank. (black)
[06:20] <efox> i am trying to use CRON to make a frequent backups. I want my backups to be kept in /root. So i became root and modified the crontab yet its not doing the backup
[06:20] <tach00> can someone tell me how to edit what dpkg does
[06:20] <Healot> wassterl
[06:20] <tach00> !pastebin
[06:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:21] <wastrel> dstyrk:  when you first start up the CD boot process you're going to be in grub, hit escape to enter the grub menu
[06:21] <efox> my entry is as follows: * * * * * /root/backups/blah.tar /home/me/folder/
[06:21] <martin__> efox: how often do you want the backup to run?
[06:22] <efox> martin__:  im just playing around with it now, but the end result would be either twice a day or once a day...but for now, every minute
[06:22] <wastrel> martin__:  ah... i don't know - you may have to pipe the output into a file and run a hexdump...
[06:22] <tach00> hello????
[06:22] <dstyrk> wastrel:  Ok.. So when I got to the first menu.. I just hit enter.. So should I hit escape or type noacpi?
[06:22] <wastrel> dstyrk:  i'm blanking on how to get to the grub command line.  sec
[06:22] <martin__> efox: every minute would be */1 * * * *  I believe
[06:23] <wastrel> dstyrk:  hit c  i think
[06:23] <efox> martin__: i know this works every minute because as a user it works. but as root i want it to store the files in the /root directory.
[06:23] <tach00> someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920
[06:24] <benplaut_win> stupif frikkin floppies :(
[06:24] <efox> martin__: is the syntax correct  though ? i think thats where my problem may lie
[06:24] <wubunutuabi> Hi ... you guys probably get a million of these requests a day but do any of you know of an application that can record music being played through the computer? I  used to use http://www.applian.com/replay-music/index.php?src=RMsite to do it but now that I don't want to use Windows, I was wondering if anyone knew of a replacement?
[06:24] <martin__> efox: sorry, I wasn't paying attention
[06:24] <wubunutuabi> I hope to use it with my Rhapsody Unlimited subscription
[06:24] <efox> martin__: lol ok.
[06:24] <dstyrk> wastrel:  I intend on erasing OSX and installing ubuntu in its place if that were to change anything your told me as of now.
[06:25] <proctor> hello
[06:25] <wubunutuabi> Ideas?
[06:25] <tach00> someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920
[06:25] <eon> wubunutuabi: audacity might
[06:25] <wastrel> dstyrk:  nope, but i bet there are specific howtos for running ubuntu on mac systems, - i don't know much about mac hardware (well about hardware in generall...)
[06:26] <martin__> efox: as far as I'm aware, you only run a single command in the cron
[06:26] <proctor> my wireless mouse messed up when firefox froze in dapper, im fairly new, rebooted and plugged a ps/2 mouse in aswell..neither work
[06:26] <wubunutuabi> Hmm .... thank you.
[06:26] <eon> wubunutuabi: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/
[06:26] <martin__> efox: so you would have a script to actually do the job
[06:26] <wubunutuabi> Do you think Audacity would automatically split files?
[06:26] <TokenBad> anyone have trouble opening their keyboard setup in system/pref?
[06:26] <wubunutuabi> I guess it's worth a try eh?
[06:26] <efox> martin__: so get cron to run the script every so often ?
[06:26] <Warbo> OK, my CD drive isn't working. It won't write CDRW discs, it doesn't recognise CDR discs and it thinks data discs are blank. Here is some dmesg after trying to mount a ddata CD http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16921
[06:26] <dstyrk> wastrel:  Ok so I'm going to give this one last shot before I go to bed for the night.. So your telling me to boot from the CD.. Get to the 1st menu, hit C then??
[06:26] <proctor> im not sure if there are "cheatcodes" like in knoppix, but i googled the problem and havent had any luck
[06:27] <tach00> someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920
[06:27] <eon> wubunutuabi: from what i understand, audacity is the best audio recording for linux, but has a bit to go before its great
[06:27] <swim> hey folks
[06:27] <swim> does anyone know if I can run aglx+compiz on a legacy nvidia card?
[06:27] <tach00> ardour is a professional audio recorder
[06:27] <martin__> efox: yes, that's right
[06:28] <tach00> a daw
[06:28] <wubunutuabi> I have actually used it before for a project where I wanted to mix some things in Windows but never for Linux. I love Ubuntu. I love not pirating things. I feel nice voluntarily giving money to projects.
[06:28] <efox> martin__: i can try that. thanks...but...why would it work as a user and not as root ?
[06:28] <wastrel> dstyrk:  yes, that should bring up the grub command line, then type   linux noapc
[06:28] <krinns> hi all
[06:28] <krinns> i am new to kubuntu
[06:28] <tach00> someone please take a look at this and tell me what to do to fix it...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920
[06:28] <Warbo> Can anybody help me with my CD drive?
[06:28] <krinns> i have install ltsp on ot its fine
[06:29] <efox> dstyrk: are you having trouble installing ?
[06:29] <dstyrk> wastrel:        linux noapc     right?
[06:29] <krinns> now i have 4 printers for 4 departments
[06:29] <wastrel> sec
[06:29] <martin__> efox: sorry- I'm lost. what is working as a user?
[06:29] <dstyrk> efox:  Yeah... a bit.
[06:29] <krinns> i want dept1 user cant print from dept2 printer only print from dept 1 printer
[06:29] <krinns> is it possible in kubuntu
[06:29] <Hobbsee> tach00: that's on dapper, isnt it?
[06:29] <krinns> how?
[06:29] <tach00> yes
[06:30] <efox> dstyrk: i dont know if this will help, but when i had troubling installing breezy, i had to use 'linux noapic laipic' i believe it was..
[06:30] <tach00> i have had nothing but trouble with it
[06:30] <davidmccabe> My apologies if this is in the faq; I don't have a web browser up and running. I am upgrading to dapper, and scrollkeeper-update segfaults each time it is run, thus interfering with the update.
[06:30] <wastrel> dstyrk:  sry yes   noapic
[06:30] <Hobbsee> tach00: good @ the dapper bit
[06:30] <davidmccabe> Any ideas on that? Thanks much!
[06:30] <efox> dstyrk: gimme a second to confirm the command, but after i did that, it went thru the installation without too much trouble
[06:30] <Warbo> Anybody? CD drive?
[06:30] <wastrel> efox:  was that on mac ?
[06:30] <tach00> Hobbsee: what do you mean
[06:30] <efox> wastrel: no. pc
[06:31] <wastrel> well it's something to try regardless :] 
[06:31] <Hobbsee> tach00: i dont know how to fix that, but you'd probably get away with using the edgy deb of that? actually, i could probably build you a dapper one
[06:31] <Hobbsee> hmmm
[06:31] <efox> wastrel: ya, thats why i said it may or may not help.
[06:31] <dstyrk> efox:  Ok... I am going to give it one more shot tonight and then I'm off to bed.. Have to do real work tomorrow... For money you know.. lol
[06:31] <efox> dstyrk: before you do so
[06:32] <woo> Anyone know why my system hangs when trying to install Dapper? It just stops at "Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ... Done".
[06:32] <tach00> hmmm. i really did not mean to install kcemirror, however because of the error, i can't uninstall it or anything else for that matter
[06:32] <swim> does anyone know if I can run aglx+compiz on a legacy nvidia card?
[06:32] <efox> dstyrk: i think its f2 to give you a list of commands u can use to start linux with...find the one that is smiliar to laipic, and use that. im unsure if THAT is the exact command.
[06:32] <efox> dstyrk: hope it helps...
[06:32] <tach00> i have heard about this edgy, is it better than dapper?
[06:33] <wastrel> edgy is experimental right now
[06:33] <dstyrk> efox:  Thanks... If it all works tonight I'll be back to let you know.. Thanks for the help this far.
[06:33] <Warbo> edgy is no where near ready for desktop use
[06:33] <tach00> got ya
[06:33] <tach00> apearently neither is dapper lol
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> hhe
[06:33] <dzus> you can still test it out
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> my dapper works perfectly
[06:33] <tach00> everytime i try to dp anything i get errors
[06:33] <efox> martin__:  my username is efox. as efox, i added to my cron    * * * * * ~/backups/blah.tar /documents
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> you installed something that broke it
[06:33] <tach00> i wish mine did yoad, i like what they are trying to do
[06:34] <Healot> !wonderful world of disneyland
[06:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about wonderful world of disneyland
[06:34] <swim> ...
[06:34] <efox> martin__:  this made a tar of documents in my backups folder
[06:34] <tach00> i know, now i just have to figure out how to undo it lol
[06:34] <wastrel> tach00:  did you try \
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> tach00, if you choose the default install and just install stuff you really need
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> it works
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> very good
[06:34] <wastrel> er, using -f to force install?
[06:34] <Warbo> PLEASE can I have some help with my CD drive?
[06:34] <efox> martin__: however, if i am root and do the SAME thing, except im keeping the tar in the /root directory, it does not work
[06:34] <NickGarvey> Warbo: what was your question?
[06:34] <efox> martin__: thats what i meant by it
[06:35] <tach00> yes and yes, then i got a little carried away with package manager and now this
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Warbo: wow you really broke it
[06:35] <Warbo> My CD drive spits out corrupt CDRWs, it doesn't een recognise that CDRs are inserted and it thinks data CDs are blank and opens the CD writer window
[06:35] <wastrel> efox:  i don't understand what command that line is running
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Warbo: try knoppix?
[06:35] <efox> wastrel: the laipac thing ?
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> tach00, see
[06:35] <Warbo> NickGarvey: I have booted DSL and I get the same stuff
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> you just have to be careful
[06:35] <NickGarvey> Warbo: hardware then, #hardware
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> you can start over
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> it's not too painful
[06:36] <wastrel> efox:  that cron line
[06:36] <martin__> efox: sorry, I have no idea then...
[06:36] <efox> martin__: no worries
[06:36] <efox> wastrel:  the cron line works as a user, but not as root. what dont you get ?
[06:36] <tach00> Yoda: i never claimed to know what i was doing, just trying to learn as i go, i think i am doing well as to only have used any type of linux for a week
[06:37] <wastrel> what's DSL?
[06:37] <efox> wastrel: maybe my terminolgy is wrong, i dont know
[06:37] <efox> Digital line subscriber ?
[06:37] <wastrel> efox:  that cron line just has 2 filenames (?)
[06:37] <wastrel> not that one :] 
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> tach00, yes you are... lesson lea4rned... reinstall
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> i have a ppc iMac i'm still fighting
[06:37] <wastrel> don't reinstall for a broken .deb
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> but I want Kubuntu on it ... period
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> wastrel, i know... i try to fix them too
[06:38] <col-panic> i had one too
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> but sometimes i have to give and cry uncle
[06:38] <tach00> lol i guess your right yoda, i was just trying to fix the problem before going there, because if i can fix it, i can learn from it
[06:38] <col-panic> G3 with hoary
[06:38] <efox> wastrel: OMG
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> tach00, you may fix
[06:38] <efox> wastrel: genius
[06:38] <efox> wastrel: thats my problem
[06:39] <efox> wastrel:  i forgot the tar -cvf
[06:39] <tach00> it may cause me gray hair too yoda
[06:39] <wastrel> heh :] 
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> gray hair, i have
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> well, just the sides
[06:40] <tach00> gray hair, im gonna have after 2 weeks of this lol, but still better than windows, just have to learn how to think linux... NEVER know i was a windows guru
[06:40] <ali> hi i was uninstalling squid from my pc but now it give error it is not fully installed
[06:40] <ali> and i cannot reinstall it
[06:40] <ali> what should i do ?
[06:41] <tach00> Yoda how do i stop dpkg from trying to replace a file i didnt' tell it to replace
[06:42] <skrummm> i have no wine config file. anyone know of a place where i could download the default?
[06:42] <tach00> there has to be a file telling it to do that somewhere
[06:42] <^catalyst> hi eveerybody ?
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> grrrrr
[06:42] <skrummm> i would think so
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> this is nuts
[06:42] <skrummm> it's not in ~/.wine/config
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> is there a rescue mode for ppc ubuntu?
[06:42] <efox> hey ^catalyst
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> I need to reset the password
[06:42] <wastrel> skrummm:  /usr/share/doc/wine  ?
[06:43] <skrummm> there's no /wine in /share/doc
[06:43] <skrummm> :(
[06:43] <mooseman447> hey
[06:45] <tach00> surely someone has the answer to this question: what file tells dpkg what to do, like replace a specific package
[06:45] <woo> Ok, now, when I try to use the alternate Install CD for dapper, it gives me an error saying "Loading Components from CD Failed", and Ideas?
[06:45] <wastrel> nomasteryoda:  there should be... it's just a boot flag in grub.conf
[06:45] <wastrel> nomasteryoda:  heh nvm no grub on ppc eh ?
[06:45] <mooseman447> woo did you try to reburn the disc?
[06:45] <skrummm> woo: check the cd rather than boot from it
[06:45] <woo> mooseman447: Yes
[06:46] <mooseman447> check the iso file with the md5hash to make sure you got a good download
[06:46] <efox> what happens if you have more ram than your swap ?
[06:46] <skrummm> woo: re-download the .iso
[06:46] <^catalyst> nothing out of the ordinary efox
[06:46] <efox> ^catalyst: poorer performance ?
[06:46] <ali> update-rc.d: /etc/init.d/squid: file does not exist "how to get it back " ?????????
[06:46] <woo> skrummm: I have.
[06:46] <^catalyst> I don't imagine it'd make any difference?
[06:46] <woo> skrummm: I've tried the live cd install, and the alternate.
[06:46] <woo> Both fail
[06:47] <skrummm> woo: hmm
[06:47] <^catalyst> i've got 2GB of ram and run a 256mb swap
[06:47] <dooglus> tach00: the .deb file
[06:47] <woo> Multiple cd's/iso's
[06:47] <mooseman447> woo did you check the iso with the md5?
[06:47] <woo> mooseman447: No... how?
[06:47] <tach00> dooglus: you know when it says "reading database......." where is that
[06:47] <dli> ^catalyst, if you are not running a server, maybe, you can disable swap :)
[06:47] <dooglus> tach00: the .deb file contains scripts which get extracted into /var/lib/dpkg/info/
[06:47] <tach00> GREAT thank you
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> yea
[06:48] <skrummm> does anyone know of a place where i can get the default wine config file, or the documentation?
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> i got it now
[06:48] <mooseman447> woo under windows i use http://www.md5summer.org/ to verify
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> whew
[06:48] <woo> mooseman447: I'm on my laptop running Ubuntu
[06:49] <efox> ^catalyst: so why is it recommended to have swap be twice the ram size ?
[06:49] <^catalyst> I have no idea.
[06:49] <wastrel> if you want to suspend to disk
[06:49] <^catalyst> I'm not really a linux person, I'm more windows based.
[06:49] <dli> efox, 2*ram is the old suggestion, outdated
[06:49] <wastrel> you need enough swap to hold all the contents of your ram
[06:49] <^catalyst> but wastrel raises a good point.
[06:49] <mooseman447> woo hang on i have a nautilus script that verify's and generates md5's for me let me see what it does
[06:49] <whitynz> Isn'tOk someone please tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have write access to this partition: /dev/sdb1       /media/sdb1     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       1 and I do not have write access to this partition: /dev/sdc1	/media/sdc1/	vfat	defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1
[06:50] <whitynz> -isn't
[06:50] <woo> :-/
[06:50] <mllr> Is gentoo as easy to use as ubuntu?
[06:50] <efox> wastrel: oic but is that only for if you suspend/hibernate ?
[06:50] <mooseman447> woo do you have the md5 hash?
[06:50] <efox> mllr: i tried gentoo...i couldnt even get it installed.
[06:50] <dooglus> tach00: I guess the database is the files in /var/lib/dpkg/
[06:50] <dooglus> tach00: what are you wanting to do?
[06:50] <woo> mooseman447: No, how do I get it?
[06:51] <wastrel> mllr:  gentoo is more difficult
[06:51] <wastrel> mllr:  it is well documented but requires a good working knowledge of your computer hardware and the linux command line
[06:51] <ScottNailon> .
[06:51] <efox> i think ubuntu is a really good distro...its faily easy to install and there is good support for it and such
[06:51] <tach00> dooglus: read this:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16920, it keeps trying to install this package, wont let me install or remove anything because of this
[06:51] <mooseman447> woo every mirror has a copy of the list in it like here http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/MD5SUMS
[06:52] <mllr> Ubuntu was my first switch to Linux so I think overall I'd be a little lost.
[06:52] <ScottNailon> hey guys, I have an old 800 MHz PC here with Win ME, can you guys tell me a way of installing UBUNTU on it? it seems not to load from the normal CROM . . :(
[06:52] <woo> mooseman447: Oh, it's umm b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e then
[06:52] <dooglus> tach00: OK, reading...
[06:52] <skrummm>  fox, maybe you know: where's the wine config file, or is there a default directory for that sort of thing?
[06:52] <mooseman447> you have the alternate?
[06:52] <dli> mllr, if you have no previous linux experience, ubuntu is a great starting point, however, that doesn't make gentoo difficult
[06:52] <woo> mooseman447: Yeah
[06:52] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, is your BIOS configured to boot from a CD?
[06:53] <dooglus> tach00: that'll be an error in the postrm script I guess
[06:53] <woo> mooseman447: I tried the Live CD installation first, that didn't work either.
[06:53] <mooseman447> woo do you have md5sum?
[06:53] <efox> could someone give me a keyword to google or a program name that will allow me to upload a folder or file to some server or ftp or something ?
[06:53] <efox> i would like to store my backups remotely as well as on the current computer as well
[06:53] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - yeah of course, I am booting to the cd, and trying to load the OS from CDROM install but it just doesnt load up....
[06:53] <tach00> dooglus: trying to open that directory but its freezing, i think there are too many files in it lol 11084 to be exact
[06:53] <skrummm> fox: gftp
[06:53] <ScottNailon> xftp
[06:54] <woo> mooseman447: Yeah
[06:54] <dooglus> tach00: dapper or edgy?
[06:54] <tach00> where do i find that script?
[06:54] <wastrel> efox:  scp
[06:54] <tach00> dapper
[06:54] <efox> wastrel: ill look into it thanks
[06:54] <dooglus> tach00: use a shell.  there aren't really any good filebrowsers yet
[06:54] <efox> as well as xftp and gftp
[06:54] <mllr> dli: does gentoo have an easy way to compile/install stuff.. Like.. sudo apt-get whatever?
[06:54] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - any other ideas ?
[06:54] <mooseman447> woo somehow you need to use that i think you should make a text file with a line b2e9120f06d70cc076c1852c6c04654e  ubuntu-6.06-alternate-i386.iso and do md5sum -c and the that text file
[06:54] <ScottNailon> I just wanna kill WINME and install Linux.... :(
[06:55] <martin__> wastrel: back again... hex show 0D 0A at the end... could you repost your perl solution please? I've managed to lose it past undo history
[06:55] <efox> mllr: they do. our apt-get is their emerge
[06:55] <Madpilot> mllr, there's a #gentoo channel - might get better info there
[06:55] <NickGarvey> scarn: not letting you?
[06:55] <phill64> Hello, I'm trying to run the install script that is on the ShipIt cd, but unfortunately, I'm unable to see the "Next" button on the install, my screen resolution is messed up same with the refresh rate.
[06:55] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, "just doesn't work" doesn't help, what happens exactly?
[06:55] <dli> mllr, I think gentoo handles packages elegantly, an order better than apt, I do use debian and gentoo
[06:55] <efox> mllr: are you new to linux ?
[06:55] <NickGarvey> scarm: sorry, I am used to a different kind of tab completion :)
[06:55] <tach00> dooglus: WOW thats a lot of stuff in that dir
[06:55] <martin__> wastrel: I think I should be able to sed that out, but I dont know how to
[06:55] <tach00> shelled there now
[06:55] <wastrel> gentoo is off topic for this channel ... :] 
[06:56] <jon_> how do i find out my root password
[06:56] <mllr> efox: Not all too new.
[06:56] <NickGarvey> !root > jon_
[06:56] <Madpilot> jon_, there isn't one
[06:56] <dooglus> tach00: yeah, a few files per package you have installed
[06:56] <jon_> ?
[06:56] <mllr> efox: I've used it at work, and a little at home for the past few years
[06:56] <Madpilot> jon_, see the PM the bot just sent you
[06:56] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - it just goes to load up Xwindows to boot but doesnt get far past that screen.... I am running a Maxrox Millenium Video card, dont know if thats a prob...
[06:56] <mllr> efox: Just looking for something new, overall I've lost all hope in Windoze and need a new fix.
[06:57] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - It seems to halt and load forever on Xwindows
[06:57] <dooglus> tach00: look at the kcemirror.postinst file
[06:57] <jon_> thanks
[06:57] <wastrel> martin__:  perl -e 'while(<>){chomp;print;print "\n"}'   but it's sooooo ugly.   tr -d '\r'  may work.
[06:57] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, so it IS installed, but X isn't working
[06:57] <efox> mllr: ok.  good luck with gentoo. it was the distro i wanted at first because it was the first linux distro i actually saw..and it was gentoo that actually pushed me away further from linux simply because it was very difficult to install
[06:57] <mllr> efox: I've been playing with the newest Vista beta, and I'm not very pumped to see what Micro$oft is going to put out in the next few months
[06:57] <dli> mllr, windows is hopeless :) I understand
[06:57] <dooglus> tach00: it's this line that's failing: "touch -m /usr/share/icons/hicolor"
[06:57] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - no it is booting from CDROM to the CDROM version but wont boot INTO X at all :(
[06:58] <efox> mllr:  and i was gettin frustrated. But since i heard so many good things bout linux, i started jumpin from distro to distro and found ubuntu which is what i like (considering im also very new at it)
[06:58] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, so you're using the live cd?
[06:58] <efox> mllr:  ya im not too eager to my hands on vista.
[06:58] <ScottNailon> yes yes yes
[06:58] <ScottNailon> correct. sorry I forgot to say that!
[06:58] <Night> after what i saw at CES ....... vista scares me
[06:58] <Night> ...
[06:58] <woo> mooseman447: Comes back OK.
[06:58] <phill64> Get someone who knows Gentoo, then set up an SSH install.
[06:59] <mooseman447> woo hmm ok
[06:59] <tach00> dooglus: forgive my newbie-ness but how do i edit that file
[06:59] <dli> mllr, if you want a production box, I suggest you to go debian, great documentation, and the current dapper ubuntu is buggy
[06:59] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - is there a way I can just start an install from Windows which will FORCE itself onto this pc? and can you install it onto a FAT32 partition?
[06:59] <dooglus> tach00: do you need to?
[06:59] <woo> mooseman447: I'm about to give up on Linux.
[07:00] <Night> why?
[07:00] <mooseman447> woo how fast did you burn it and how fast is the drive trying to read it i know that sounds weird but my old system wouldnt boot off a cd a while ago because it read to slow
[07:00] <efox> i dont know too much bout OS, ive learned alot from playin around with linux but it seems that vista is just more aestically pleasing. HOWEVER, they do have something i think is interesting. You can use flash drive as additional ram or something like that. i thought that was cool
[07:00] <dooglus> tach00: if you want to view is, just use "less kcemirror.postinst"
[07:00] <woo> Night: Me?
[07:00] <tach00> well its there, i am sure that you know what your doing lol, cause i sure dont, but what youve said makes sense to me
[07:00] <mllr> Well maybe I'll give a few distro's the old college try, overall thanks for your help. :)
[07:00] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, iirc the live CD doesn't install. you need an install CD. you can probably install to a fat32 partition, but it'll be ugly
[07:00] <mooseman447> efox its a cool idea but it would probably be the slowest ram ever
[07:00] <dooglus> tach00: the file is owned by root, so if you want to edit it you need to run the editor as root
[07:01] <ubuntu> Guys i need help. Im an accessing via terminal and irssi. I borked my grub and need to install it (i am on live cd)
[07:01] <ScottNailon> hawkaloogie - what do you mean by ugly? and why wont the LIVE cd work?
[07:01] <ubuntu> how can i reinstall grub
[07:01] <ubuntu> via the live cd to my installation
[07:01] <dooglus> ubuntu: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install grub" ?
[07:01] <efox> mooseman447: lol
[07:01] <dooglus> ubuntu: chroot to your real root partition first
[07:01] <ruxpin> ubuntu: 'grub'
[07:01] <tach00> dooglus: this is what it says: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16922
[07:02] <dli> mllr, don't try redhat, at least, it sucks :)
[07:02] <ruxpin> ubuntu: root (hdx,y)
[07:02] <mooseman447> efox its true the speed of a usb bus is waaaayyyy slower then any ram slot
[07:02] <ruxpin> ubuntu: setup (hdx)
[07:02] <mllr> dli: thanks for the heads up.
[07:02] <ruxpin> ubuntu: quit
[07:02] <ajax4> !xgl
[07:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:02] <hawkaloogie> ScottNailon, ugly as in the opposite of pretty, and i don't know.
[07:02] <ubuntu> i have no idea how to do that .. can someone guide me here
[07:02] <ScottNailon> hmmm ok
[07:02] <mllr> dli: how does xgl run in ubuntu? Buggy? Or is it smooth.
[07:02] <dooglus> tach00: I have a copy here.  you don't have a /usr/share/icons/hicolor directory?
[07:03] <efox> mooseman447: wat does usb max out at ?
[07:03] <dli> mllr, xgl itself is not stable yet, so, you should wait for production boxes, for testing, you can always do it, but preferred in gentoo
[07:03] <mllr> I've been reading a ton, and Google'n my butt off, but overall it's nice to chat with people for a few minutes and get REAL feedback.
[07:03] <mooseman447> efox from the wiki     * A Low Speed rate of 1.5 Mbit/s (183 KiB/s) that is mostly used for Human Interface Devices (HID) such as keyboards, mouse and joysticks.
[07:03] <mooseman447>     * A Full Speed rate of 12 Mbit/s (1.4 MiB/s). Full Speed was the fastest rate before the USB 2.0 specification and many devices fall back to Full Speed. Full Speed devices divide the USB bandwidth between them in a first-come first-served basis and it is not uncommon to run out of bandwidth with several isochronous devices. All USB Hubs support Full Speed.
[07:03] <mooseman447>     * A Hi-Speed rate of 480 Mbit/s (57 MiB/s).
[07:04] <skrummm> is there a way to repartition a drive if i'm already using it?
[07:04] <efox> mooseman447: boooo
[07:04] <mooseman447> efox what?
[07:04] <sktx> 'ello all...
[07:04] <wastrel> skrummm:  gparted can non-destructively partition
[07:04] <tach00> dooglus: yes i have that directory
[07:05] <tach00> dont understand the connection tho
[07:05] <wastrel> skrummm:  but make backups first - it may zap the partition table...
[07:05] <dli> wastrel, but not live on mounted ones :(
[07:05] <wastrel> well no
[07:05] <reXin> can anybody give me some help with EFI support?
[07:05] <skrummm> wastrel: do i need to install it, or is it with the standard distro?
[07:05] <mllr> Alright, well thank all you guys/gals for your time. Sorry to bust into your channel, and start asking twenty questions, but this quick chat helped a lot. Thanks again. :)
[07:05] <sktx> the only time i've ever had trouble with gparted almost borking a partition was this last install
[07:05] <dooglus> tach00: hmmm
[07:05] <sktx> when i was installing dapper
[07:05] <wastrel> skrummm:  you would need to boot from a CD
[07:05] <wastrel> skrummm:  you can't repartion a drive you're using as the boot disk
[07:06] <skrummm> wastrel: ah, makes sense
[07:06] <skrummm> wastrel: lol, should have thought of that
[07:06] <dooglus> tach00: my bad.  it's the uninstall that fails.  so look at the .postrm file, not .postinst
[07:06] <skrummm> wastrel: but it's on the cd, right?
[07:06] <jon_> how do i login as root? I enabled the root account
[07:06] <bulldog_> does anyone know why some programs dissappear from program menu in Dapper?
[07:06] <dooglus> tach00: there's this: "[ -d /usr/share/icons/hicolor ]  && touch -m #ICONDIR# || true"
[07:06] <dooglus> the #ICONDIR# is an error
[07:06] <wastrel> skrummm:  i think so, i only used the default installer tho - not sure what alls on there
[07:06] <sktx> bulldog_, under what circumstances?
[07:06] <ubuntu> is there anything i can do to reinstall grub? anything simple? or is reinstalling Ubuntu the easiest way?
[07:07] <skrummm> wastrel: gparted?
[07:07] <skrummm> wastrel: alright
[07:07] <tach00> nothing to do with touch
[07:07] <dooglus> tach00: if you wait a minute I'll tell you a command to run that will fix this
[07:07] <wastrel> ubuntu:   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:07] <tach00> AWSOME
[07:07] <wastrel> gparted
[07:07] <Madpilot> jon_, did you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo? It talks about logging in as root - and why it's a bad idea...
[07:07] <efox> mooseman447: i said boo for the speed of HID devices
[07:08] <mooseman447> efox ah ok sorry its getting a late and im beginning to fall asleep
[07:08] <jon_> oh...my bad. nm
[07:08] <efox> mooseman447: =)
[07:09] <dooglus> tach00: run this: sudo sed -i 's!#ICONDIR#!/usr/share/icons/hicolor!' /var/lib/dpkg/info/kcemirror.postrm
[07:09] <dooglus> tach00: it should all be on one line
[07:09] <wweasel> !grub
[07:09] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:09] <tach00> ok
[07:10] <dooglus> tach00: that should edit the .postrm file - check that it has
[07:10] <uubuntu> i have by mistake deleted the init.d/squid can any show me where to get it back ?
[07:10] <uubuntu> i tried reinstalling but doesnt work
[07:10] <efox> if i have breezy can i just install dapper over it, or do i have to go through some special procedure to upgrade
[07:10] <tach00> dooglus: OH, you ARE the man, i think you fixed it
[07:11] <dooglus> tach00: I'm just *A* man :)
[07:11] <uubuntu> efox you can
[07:11] <sktx> anyone else have any trouble getting onto DALnet?
[07:11] <efox> uubuntu: sweeet
[07:11] <uubuntu> just change the sources.list
[07:11] <Cornellius> !eggdrop
[07:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about eggdrop
[07:11] <uubuntu> all words to dapper
[07:11] <uubuntu> comment the cd
[07:11] <mooseman447> !ups
[07:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about ups
[07:11] <freakcode> hi guys
[07:11] <uubuntu> apt-get upgrade
[07:11] <freakcode> can help me with weird nvidia module install?
[07:11] <tach00> Whatever dude, i have been here all day off an on and no one has known that simple fix, thank you SO much
[07:11] <jerry> hi
[07:12] <jerry> I have a question
[07:12] <uubuntu> and apt-get -y dist-upgrade
[07:12] <efox> uubuntu: i have a CD. Can I pop that in ? My internet is rather slow and if i can id much rather do it from CD
[07:12] <dooglus> tach00: I raised a bug for it: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kcemirror/+bug/51484
[07:12] <uubuntu> efox, you can try but you have to put the rite name in the cdrom coloumn ;)
[07:12] <Cornellius> jerry: Don't ask to ask, just ask. If someone can help, he will.
[07:13] <jerry> I'm trying to run an eggdrop but it says while executing "! /home/jerry/eggdrop (file "eggdrop.conf" line 1) * CONFIG FILE NOT LOADED (NOT FOUND, OR ERROR)
[07:14] <jerry> how do I get kubuntu to upgrade every night automatically?
[07:14] <^catalyst> howto identify bus location of gfx card ?
[07:14] <efox> uubuntu: i think an easier fix is just to reformat all my ext3 drives and then just install fresh from cd ? What do you think ?
[07:14] <freakcode> anyone got errors installing nvidia-glx on dapper, from the repositories???
[07:14] <ubuntu> on breezy there was a way to go to the menu on the install cd.. how can i go to that menu on dapper to reinstall grub
[07:14] <ubuntu> anyone have any idea?
[07:14] <tach00> dooglus: not that i could but if i ever get smart enough to return the favor, i will
[07:14] <freakcode> after i do that, and "nvidia-xconfig", X simply dont starts with module "nvidia"
[07:14] <mooseman447> anybody know a ubuntu program like windirstat?
[07:14] <freakcode> he complains about "no nvidia.ko found"... ok but what package provides it?
[07:15] <dooglus> tach00: you've helped by bringing the bug to my attention
[07:15] <dli> freakcode, you followed the nvidia howto?
[07:15] <^catalyst> freakcode: i had problems getting it to install
[07:15] <wastrel> thank you, no thank YOU
[07:15] <freakcode> which one? lol
[07:15] <^catalyst> what error are you getting?
[07:15] <bjv> if i install a .deb, then delete the .deb   would i have difficulty removing the software at a later date?
[07:15] <dli> !tell freakcode about nvidia
[07:16] <^catalyst> your doing sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx yeah ?
[07:16] <tach00> i have another bug if you want to tackle it lol
[07:16] <bjv> the install information should be recorded in the dpkg/apt database, right?
[07:16] <freakcode> ^catalyst, yeah... after that, i edit xorg.conf to "nvidia"... and then "no nvidia.ko found"
[07:16] <dooglus> tach00: go on then
[07:16] <dli> freakcode, you should " sudo modprobe nvidia "
[07:17] <^catalyst> are you running the config enable line?
[07:17] <^catalyst> I'll get you a link
[07:17] <dooglus> bjv: you don't need to keep .deb files after installation.
[07:17] <tach00> well it started about the same time as the other one, might have even fixed it i dont know but, sometimes its like someone is holding the ENTER key down,
[07:17] <tach00> every thing just goes crazy
[07:17] <freakcode> dli, hmmm modprobe... i was looking in the /modules dir and no nvidia.ko found
[07:17] <bjv> dooglus: i did not believe so.
[07:17] <freakcode> dli, but i guess youre right :P
[07:17] <dooglus> bjv: that's like keeping the installation .exe in windows - there's no need unless you want to reinstall at a later data without redownloading
[07:17] <freakcode> ^catalyst, show me
[07:17] <^catalyst> https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html
[07:17] <[lnx] elvis> aueuHAUheauehua.. magavilha, magavilha..
[07:17] <bjv> im trying to remove a copy of wine, there is no record of it being installed in dpkg
[07:18] <bjv> i must not have used a .deb, then
[07:18] <bjv> :(
[07:18] <dli> freakcode, read the howto! if you want the nvidia driver, the howto is your holy bible
[07:18] <mooseman447> how can you use wget to download a whole site?
[07:18] <tach00> also the mouse clicks wht ever it hovers over with out pressing the button when this happens
[07:18] <dli> moonlite, wget -r , " man wget "
[07:18] <dooglus> tach00: I've seen problems with the keyboard before.  usually just pressing whichever key the system thinks is stuck down fixes it.
[07:18] <dli> mooseman447, wget -r , " man wget "
[07:18] <mooseman447> dli man wget?
[07:18] <freakcode> dli, can you provide me the link? i should, for now, seen at least ten "how-to"s
[07:18] <tach00> i found that if i press the ESC key it stops it, but what causes that
[07:18] <dli> !nvidia
[07:19] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:19] <dooglus> tach00: I think the system saw you press the enter key but didn't notice you release it, so it thinks it must still be pressed.  if you press it again it will hopefully see you press and release it.
[07:19] <nathanael> I tried installing xgl on dapper, but got a no display error when I logged in
[07:19] <^catalyst> freakcode:  use the link I have you
[07:19] <freakcode> ^catalyst, ok thx
[07:19] <^catalyst> tip, COPY AND PASTE the code examples
[07:19] <dooglus> tach00: I don't know.  I've not seen it with the enter key- usually it's alt or control for me
[07:19] <tach00> thats wierd
[07:19] <nathanael> any ideas?
[07:20] <nathanael> Followed this guide: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[07:20] <tach00> you know what, come to think of it, it started when i was using gaim, and i pressed ALT-G trying to beep a friend like with yahoo messenger, been doing it ever since
[07:20] <exile> May I ask I question about a problem I have?
[07:20] <nathanael> !xgl
[07:20] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:20] <wastrel> exile you may.
[07:21] <tach00> dont guess there is a fix for that huh?
[07:21] <exile> wastrel, I have just tried to boot up the Live/Install CD for Ubuntu 6.06 x64 and everything boots up fine, but my mouse does not respong; cursor doesn't move. Any ideas?
[07:22] <dooglus> tach00: don't know of one
[07:22] <mooseman447> dli will that also download all the images on the pages
[07:22] <wastrel> exile:  not really... have you tried unplugging it and plugging it back in?
[07:22] <tach00> something for the dapper engineers to work on i guess
[07:22] <dli> mooseman447, I suppose so
[07:23] <dli> mooseman447, man wget
[07:23] <exile> wastrel: yes it is USB but I have also tried the USB to PS/2 adapter and had no luck.
[07:23] <arapehl> son of a @#$! it worked!
[07:23] <arapehl> sheeeesh
[07:24] <soaper> hey, um, quick question... is there any way to make a keyboard shortcut to copy text from konsole, or just a console/terminal/shell in general?
[07:24] <soaper> anyone?
[07:25] <jrleek> Sorry, I don't know.  I've always just used shift+ctrl+c
[07:25] <dli> soaper, for example? what do you want to do?
[07:25] <exile> soaper: give the smart ones some time
[07:25] <wweasel> Hey all. I just installed Windows and am trying to restore grub following the wiki page.  The first step is "When the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with boot: prompt, type rescue. Where is the boot: prompt?
[07:25] <wastrel> soaper:  control-insert ?
[07:25] <soaper> for example... oh, lemme try
[07:25] <soaper> nope.
[07:26] <dli> wweasel, in grub, before kernel loads
[07:26] <uuubuntu> i have by mistake deleted the init.d/squid can any show me where to get it back ?
[07:26] <soaper> Just, like, for example, trying to copy singular options of a help page one at a time...
[07:26] <bjv> man.. i have zero available blocks on my / fs, yet apt-get is still finishing the dist-upgrade
[07:26] <dli> uuubuntu, backup your squid.conf, sudo dpkg --purge squid
[07:26] <jrleek> Highlight, copy?
[07:27] <dli> uuubuntu, and reinstall squid after that
[07:27] <bjv> ext2 is magic.
[07:27] <wweasel> dli: before kernel loads? huh?
[07:27] <uuubuntu> thanks dli
[07:27] <jrleek> soaper:  highlight, then you can paste with the middle mouse button
[07:27] <^catalyst> can i restart ALSA without rebooting ?
[07:27] <exile> wastrel: yes i tried that and it is USB but I have also tried the USB to PS/2 adapter and had no luck.
[07:27] <soaper> yeah, but it's a lot of trouble working the mouse all the time... and plus, y'know, that's only in console...
[07:27] <bjv> apparently i have 1k blocks that are fine to write in, but not flagged as 'available'
[07:27] <bjv> and that is what is keeping my dist-upgrade from failing. o_O
[07:27] <soaper> lemme try that out jrleek
[07:27] <wastrel> exile:  i don't know- never had mouse trouble with the livecd myself...
[07:27] <dli> ^catalyst, sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[07:27] <soaper> awesome... thanks!
[07:28] <^catalyst> cheers dli
[07:28] <wweasel> dli: I put in the install cd and I get the splash page, where it asks if I want to install, memtest, boot first hd, etc.
[07:28] <jrleek> soaper: If that's a pain, shift+ctrl+C also works.
[07:28] <^catalyst> is there a key combination to open a new terminal ?
[07:28] <soaper> I tried that... but it doesn't for me :p
[07:28] <dli> wweasel, you can boot your first hd :) if it's your ubuntu installation
[07:28] <wastrel> ^catalyst:  you can set one in gnome at least.  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts
[07:28] <efox> wastrel: i looked up scp, however reading a few sites, it doesnt specify what port it uses
[07:28] <exile> wastrel: I will try to boot again and I will return and tell you if it works or not
[07:29] <wastrel> efox:  it's the ssh port, 22
[07:29] <dli> ^catalyst, you can make one
[07:29] <jrleek> soaper: really?  Huh.  KDE or Gnome?
[07:29] <soaper> KDE... using Konsole.
[07:29] <efox> wastrel: gotcha. which can also be changed if need be correct ?
[07:29] <soaper> I'm using it from IceWM right now, but I don't think it would be any different in the original environment.
[07:29] <jrleek> soaper: That could be it, I'm in Gnome.  Never used KDE much.
[07:29] <soaper> oh, kay.
[07:30] <dli> ^catalyst, run: gconf-editor , go to apps -> metacity
[07:30] <wastrel> efox:  the remote server would need be listening on the different port.  but yes.
[07:30] <^catalyst> I'll be knackered if I can get any sound out via digital-out
[07:30] <wweasel> dli: You misunderstand me.  I just installed Windows, it wrote over Grub obviously. I am following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - I don't understand the second one.
[07:30] <efox> wastrel:  thanks man
[07:30] <dli> wweasel, yes, your ubuntu doesn't load anymore, so, you can boot your first hd from a ubuntu cd
[07:31] <jrleek> wastrel: Thanks
[07:31] <wastrel> np np
[07:31] <wweasel> Ok, yeah, that will boot my Windows partition, no?
[07:31] <dli> wweasel, then, don't do that
[07:31] <PORDO> this is so off-topic, but seriously...to any of you who have ever wished social networking, like myspace and friendster, could be decentralized, i just found the sickest thing i've discovered on the net in months: http://videntity.org/edit
[07:31] <CrazyDoode> OP
[07:31] <dli> wweasel, do you have a ubuntu livecd ? or any livecd
[07:31] <wweasel> dli: I don't think you know what I am talking about.
[07:32] <dooglus> wweasel: which step of that web page don't you understand?
[07:32] <dli> wweasel, sorry for disturbing
[07:32] <wweasel> dooglus: "When the Ubuntu splash screen comes up with the boot: prompt, type in rescue and press enter."
[07:32] <jisatsu> has anyone ever gotten World of Warcraft running under Ubuntu?
[07:32] <jrleek> Honestly, when I set up dual boot systems, I do it with two totally seperate hard drives, one at a time.  Makes it much easier and more robust, although you have to modify grub.conf yourself.
[07:32] <wweasel> dli: No problem! You have no need to apologize, I greatly appreciate that you are tryign to help.
[07:32] <wweasel> jrleek: laptop :P
[07:32] <^catalyst> ok, ubuntu uses ALSA by default yeah?
[07:33] <dli> ^catalyst, yes
[07:33] <soaper> PORDO: that's a really cool site... darn...
[07:33] <^catalyst> hrmm
[07:33] <FunnyLookinHat> I'm surprised the LiveCD doesn't have an option to "Recover GRUB" after a windows install
[07:33] <dli> ^catalyst, I think esd also
[07:33] <soaper> gotta bookmark that.
[07:33] <wweasel> dooglus: It's the second point on the website.
[07:33] <dooglus> wweasel: the instructions are out of date I guess.  They're talking about the old-stye install CD, not the live CD
[07:33] <^catalyst> the guide I have to make SPDIF works thru ALSA is for OPTICAL, I use coax...
[07:33] <dooglus> wweasel: do you have a breezy install disk, or a dapper alternate disk?
[07:33] <dli> FunnyLookinHat, because you'd better handle it manually at rescuing
[07:33] <jisatsu> ok, better question. Would using the 64 bit version of Ubuntu affect my ability to run Wine/Cedega?
[07:33] <wweasel> aha.
[07:34] <wweasel> dooglus: Yes, a breezy install disc in my basement.
[07:34] <dooglus> wweasel: try that.
[07:34] <FunnyLookinHat> dli, considering the fact that you run most of the same steps and you just have to select which partitions are which, I'd say automating it would be fairly safe...albeit risky in some cases
[07:34] <drjeckel655> Hey how would i go about installing flash player on ubuntu 64?
[07:34] <wweasel> dooglus: thanks alot.
[07:34] <dli> FunnyLookinHat, I agree they should make a wizard to guide n00bs through, however, just a few steps :(
[07:34] <FunnyLookinHat> !flash
[07:34] <soaper> jisatsu asks the hard questions...
[07:34] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:34] <dooglus> wweasel: wait
[07:34] <wweasel> dli: thank you too, I appreciate it.
[07:34] <jisatsu> soaper: :P
[07:35] <FunnyLookinHat> dli, ubuntu is for noobs and |337 alike...  : )
[07:35] <wweasel> dooglus: yes
[07:35] <dooglus> wweasel: if you scroll down a bit on the same page, there are instructions for using a live CD
[07:35] <dli> FunnyLookinHat, no, the installer knows your disk, because it already asked you, a livecd doesn't :(
[07:35] <jon___> how do i change filesystem permissions? I am logged in as root
[07:35] <gore_> whats the best gui ftp client software for ubuntu?
[07:35] <uuubuntu> thanks dli
[07:35] <dooglus> jon___: "chmod"
[07:36] <wweasel> dooglus: which one should I follow? the one "while preserving" or not?
[07:36] <uuubuntu> dli, it worked
[07:36] <jisatsu> does anyone here personally play WoW?
[07:36] <dli> jon___, do you mean like ntfs? otherwise, you should use permissions from fs
[07:36] <uuubuntu> dli, one more question man
[07:36] <Minsc37> Hello
[07:36] <jrleek> dooglus: I think he means on a whole filesystem
[07:36] <wastrel> i stopped playing WoW
[07:36] <jisatsu> wastrel: did you ever play it under Linux?
[07:36] <gore_> only way to play wow in linux is through wine right?
[07:36] <jon___> I don't know, I want to be able to have write permissions
[07:36] <dli> uuubuntu, that's a stupid way :( but I forget the smart way, somebody tought me, and I forgot
[07:36] <soaper> jinsatsu, there's an answer on the site about wine emulating win64-bit applications... but I don't think that's what you want.
[07:36] <soaper> Win64 support would allow Wine to run native Windows 64-bit executables, and as of February 2006, Wine does not yet have this support. That's okay, since there are very few commercially available Win64 applications. One exception, Unreal Tournament 2004, is available in a native Linux 64-bit version, so nobody (except maybe a Wine hacker) should want to run the Windows version anyway.
[07:36] <sktx> is there anyone present who knows a little bit more about networking than i do?  i can't seem to connect to dalnet.. i'm wondering if someone could interpret a traceroute output for me
[07:36] <jrleek> I have the same filesystem problem, I automount a Fat32 drive, but I can't get write permissions as a user
[07:36] <uuubuntu> dli, do you have experience with squid ?
[07:36] <wastrel> jisatsu:  if i could do that i would still be playing WoW
[07:37] <dooglus> wweasel: I don't know, sorry.
[07:37] <jisatsu> wastrel: ah, ok ^^
[07:37] <gore_> anyone know of a good gui ftp client?
[07:37] <wastrel> jisatsu:  i need to upgrade first :] 
[07:37] <wastrel> gore_:  i like gftp
[07:37] <dooglus> jrleek: chmod -R then?
[07:37] <dli> uuubuntu, somewhat, and probably the stupid ways
[07:37] <gore_> perfect wastrel
[07:37] <jisatsu> I think cedega supports it, but I haven't yet tried it personally, I'm gonna give it a go in a minute
[07:37] <gore_> =P
[07:37] <gore_> just looking for the name of it
[07:37] <dooglus> jrleek: I don't think it's a very good idea though
[07:37] <stephan__> whats the command to make a .dir and all its files and .dir to get write access
[07:37] <uuubuntu> dli, i have only one problem i cannot connect to my pop.servername.com
[07:38] <jrleek> dooglus: That and I think it would go away when I remount
[07:38] <uuubuntu> dli, any ideas ?
[07:38] <dli> jrleek, no, don't chmod on FAT, use, mount -ouid= , or put it in your fstab
[07:38] <soaper> stephan__ depends what you want. be more specific
[07:38] <drjeckel655> Is there any way to install flash on ubuntu 64?
[07:38] <jrleek> Win32 doesn't actually have any permission system you know.
[07:38] <dli> uuubuntu, that's not a proxy problem :(
[07:38] <uuubuntu> drjeckel655, it should be same i guess
[07:38] <uuubuntu> dli, then ?
[07:38] <jrleek> It's in my fstab....  I'll try changing the command line args.  Thanks
[07:38] <dli> jrleek, ntfs does :)
[07:38] <stephan__> souper, i want everything in a directory to have write access lets say quake
[07:38] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  try   telnet pop.whatever.com 110
[07:39] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  what does it say?
[07:39] <jrleek> dli: Yeah, but you almost can't write at all in NTFS with the linux drivers.. :P
[07:39] <dli> jrleek, put uid= in the options for that line
[07:39] <Cornellius> jrleek: CaptiveNTFS ftw !
[07:39] <dli> jrleek, so, get rid of ntfs at all :)
[07:39] <dooglus> Cornellius: what is 'ftw'?
[07:40] <Minsc37> Does anyone know how to fix that infinite sound loop when Gnome starts?
[07:40] <wastrel> for teh win
[07:40] <Cornellius> dooglus: For the win :)
[07:40] <dooglus> heh, ok
[07:40] <sktx> can anyone recommend a identd package that's fairly easy to set up?
[07:40] <uuubuntu> wastrel, it says ok
[07:40] <dooglus> Cornellius: is captiventfs supported again now?  last I heard it was dead
[07:40] <needhelp> Guys, i have been trying to install grub from my live cd so that i could use my installed ubuntu.. but i am lost
[07:40] <jrleek> dli: ah, thanks.  I had just "user" there, I thought that would di it.  Do I need to put uid=jrleek?  or just uid=?
[07:40] <needhelp> can someone help me
[07:40] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  ok so it looks like it connected to the pop server.  type  quit
[07:40] <dooglus> needhelp: did you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ?
[07:40] <soaper> stephan__: if you're root and want to give a single user write access to a directory: chown -R owner:group directoryname; chmod -R 755 directoryname
[07:40] <uuubuntu> wastrel, ok
[07:41] <dli> jrleek, yes, you need uid=jrleek
[07:41] <uuubuntu> dli, can i have your yahoo msn or gmail ? something ?
[07:41] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  so you don't have a network problem - must be a configuration problem...
[07:41] <soaper> that changes the owner to a single user/group, but allows only that group to read it.
[07:41] <Cornellius> dooglus: Well, last release is from January 26
[07:41] <RiverRat> Did you guys get hit w/ the nasty bots too?
[07:41] <uuubuntu> ok wastrel thanks
[07:41] <wastrel> RiverRat:  yes
[07:41] <dli> uuubuntu, butdiene@hotmail.com
[07:41] <uuubuntu> wastrel, are you good at it ?
[07:41] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  what mail program are you using?
[07:41] <jrleek> dli: thanks
[07:42] <uuubuntu> dli thanks
[07:42] <howy424> HI folks, just got my first install of ubuntu sorted, using it now
[07:42] <uuubuntu> wastrel, ms outlook 2004
[07:42] <uuubuntu> wastrel, ms outlook 2003
[07:42] <RiverRat> wastrel: Any idea what kind of a filter rule we should suggest to lilo?  It doesn't seem like there is a good one.  :/
[07:42] <jrleek> howy424: congrats.  How's it going for you?
[07:42] <wastrel> i thought this was ubuntu :]    uuubuntu i don't know outlook
[07:42] <orbin> howy424: nice.  first distro?
[07:42] <uuubuntu> wastrel, i am talking about the clien
[07:43] <wastrel> RiverRat:  for the join spam or the dcc stuff?  i dunno - i suggested a bot.
[07:43] <sktx> congratulations, howy424 :)  with a little luck and perserverence, your computer life has just become a helluva lot nicer :)
[07:43] <howy424> well so far it looks great, I am wondering though about installing & using WINE, once you follow the instructions on winhq, what then?
[07:43] <RiverRat> wastrel: Well we got hit pretty good too.  :s   (#gentoo)
[07:43] <charle97> use synaptic to install wine
[07:43] <wastrel> RiverRat:  that just klines ppl who dcc it. .i'm no ircop tho
[07:43] <howy424> sktx: oh yeah, I'm over XP
[07:43] <XVampireX> Hi, can anyone guide me how to do this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107856
[07:43] <dooglus> Cornellius: interesting
[07:43] <dli> howy424, maybe, you don't even need wine at all :)
[07:43] <dooglus> Cornellius: are you talking about http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ ?
[07:43] <sktx> btw, howy, if you need any help prettying up your desktop, i've put quite a few hours into customizing and would be more than happy to give ya a few tips
[07:44] <XVampireX> The reason is because it looks different on my system
[07:44] <Cornellius> dooglus: Yes
[07:44] <^catalyst> anywhere you lot can suggest to get help configuring ALSA ?
[07:44] <jrleek> howy424: I'll admit that I've never had good luck with wine
[07:44] <howy424> well I have one fav program that only comes for Windows, editplus
[07:44] <RiverRat> wastrel: I know you aren't, neither am I.  I just thought you might have an idea.  We have a bot but were wondering about the ruleset that we should use.
[07:44] <Cornellius> dooglus: NEWS
[07:44] <Cornellius> 
[07:44] <sktx> howy424, i felt the same way... about winxp that is
[07:44] <Cornellius> captive-1.1.7 (2006-01-26)
[07:44] <sktx> howy424, is it a text editor?
[07:44] <charle97> use vim
[07:44] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  so did you telnet from the same machine that you're running the outlook clients on?
[07:45] <uuubuntu> wastrel, nope
[07:45] <howy424> well, yes, but an extremely good one
[07:45] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  so it might be a network problem for them.
[07:45] <uuubuntu> ritenow i am reconfiguring my proxy
[07:45] <uuubuntu> wastrel, can i have your yahoo hotmail or gmail ?
[07:45] <howy424> so if wine's no good, is there any other option worth trying?
[07:46] <sktx> howy424, what kind of features did it have that made it that good?
[07:46] <wastrel> uuubuntu:  sorry i only have a private email addy
[07:46] <uuubuntu> ok thanks wastrel
[07:46] <dli> howy424, you are in ubuntu, no need to be worried by windows :)
[07:46] <XVampireX> Hi, can anyone guide me how to do this?: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107856
[07:46] <jrleek> howy424: I heard good things about qemu the other day, but have never tried it myself
[07:47] <howy424> sktx: built in FTP, completely configurable, down to syntax highlighting, code completion, and more
[07:47] <sktx> howy424, there's a load of great editors for linux... if you put the effort into learning vi, gvim will change your life
[07:47] <sktx> hmm
[07:47] <wastrel> <3 vi
[07:47] <jrleek> sktx: emacs forever!  :)
[07:47] <sktx> lol
[07:47] <sktx> i'm a straight up vi guy
[07:47] <needhelp> :'(
[07:47] <jon_> can anyone help me on installing Real Player. when i follow the directions and type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin" I get "chmod cannot access RealPlayer10Gold.bin etc."
[07:48] <dli> howy424, make up your mind, vi or emacs , it's like marriage, better to make up your mind now, and stay loyal for the rest of your life
[07:48] <sktx> lol
[07:48] <sktx> howy424, have you had a chance to look through synaptic yet?
[07:48] <dli> jon_, you should run that command in the folder where you saved the file, of course
[07:48] <jon_> i saved it to desktop
[07:48] <dli> jon_, or you just, " sudo chmod "
[07:49] <howy424> well, I should come clean about the fact that I am no new comer to Linux, just necer used a GUI b4, but I have used vi a lot, but not for development
[07:49] <jon_> i'll try that
[07:49] <sktx> you tried vim/gvim, howy424 ?
[07:49] <howy424> sktx: yes I have had a look through synaptic
[07:49] <dli> jon_, in a terminal, type: cd ~/Desktop ; chmod a+x RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
[07:49] <howy424> sktx: no I haven't tried vim or gvim
[07:49] <jon_> ok
[07:50] <jrleek> howy424: SO you do web development?
[07:50] <jon_> still no luck
[07:50] <sktx> if gvim were a woman, i would spend my days composing songs for it, and thinking of new and original ways to be nice to it.
[07:50] <howy424> jrleek: yep
[07:50] <sktx> :p
[07:50] <dli> jrleek, I think bluefish is too simple for html :(
[07:50] <wastrel> vimtutor
[07:51] <roostishaw> can anyone recommend a good rss reader for linux?
[07:51] <XaviusShadow> Well hopefully once the ubuntu desktop iso is done downloading I can install it using that
[07:51] <sktx> aren't there some problems with the desktop iso?
[07:51] <howy424> I gotta tell you guys, I've tried just about all of them leading up to this point, where I want to use a Linux GUI full time
[07:51] <gore_> anyone familiar with googlepages?
[07:51] <gore_> is it possible to access them via ftp?
[07:51] <howy424> but I keep going back to editplus
[07:51] <anuvu> problem with playback in xine can anybody help
[07:51] <sktx> hrmm
[07:52] <sktx> well there's got to be a reasonable substitution
[07:52] <needhelp> I am loosing my mind... can someone please help me with restoring my grub. I tried the wiki and it gives me errors.
[07:52] <needhelp> why is it so hard
[07:52] <wastrel> howy424:  http://editplus.info/wiki/Running_on_Linux   ?
[07:52] <sktx> i imagine it'd be fairly inefficient to run a window compatibility layer just for a text editor
[07:52] <jrleek> howy424: Perhaps there are some good alternitives specifically for webdevelopment.  It would suck to have to leave your favorite editor, but, as I said, even when I have gotten wine to work, it hasn't worked well
[07:53] <sktx> even if it is a really good one
[07:53] <dli> needhelp, easy, just a few steps :)
[07:53] <sktx> i left my fav text editor for gvim
[07:53] <howy424> wastrel: oh cool, I'll go have a look... brb
[07:53] <dli> needhelp, which part do you find confusing?
[07:53] <sktx> aedix suite always did me good, but vi showed me the wonders of moded editing.. *swoon* :p
[07:53] <roostishaw> can anyone recommend a good stand alone rss reader for linux?
[07:53] <needhelp> dli: i tried the wiki mentioned here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[07:53] <jrleek> wow, wastrel saves the day
[07:54] <anuvu> problem with xine playing mpg file please help
[07:54] <jpgvietnam> hi
[07:54] <dli> needhelp, yes, and any problem?
[07:54] <needhelp> and when i try adding the hd root part it says : grub> root (hd0,2)
[07:54] <needhelp> Error 21: Selected disk does not exist
[07:54] <needhelp> grub> root (hda,2)
[07:54] <needhelp> Error 23: Error while parsing number
[07:54] <needhelp> grub> root(hd0,2)
[07:54] <needhelp> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[07:54] <needhelp> grub> root
[07:54] <jpgvietnam> how to read  file *.chm on ubuntu linux
[07:55] <jpgvietnam> who can help me ?
[07:55] <wastrel> what's a .chm ?
[07:55] <dli> needhelp, okay, don't paste here :( next time, use pastebin.ca
[07:55] <sktx> jpgvietnam, they're like lit files i think, and have to be decoded
[07:55] <roostishaw> can anyone recommend a good stand alone rss reader for linux?
[07:55] <needhelp> sorry dli
[07:55] <sktx> a .chm is a "compressed html file"
[07:55] <ardchoille> wastrel: iirc, that's a type of Windows help file
[07:55] <anuvu> help needed in mpg playback
[07:55] <sktx> its a windows helpfile format
[07:55] <needhelp> i am just very very frustated
[07:55] <dli> needhelp, you should use grub> root (hd0,1)
[07:55] <jme> chms are used in linux too
[07:55] <sktx> they are?
[07:56] <jpgvietnam> i can read it on window
[07:56] <sktx> i can't recall seeing one
[07:56] <jpgvietnam> but can't on linux
[07:56] <sktx> jpgvietnam, tried opening it in your web browser?
[07:56] <dli> needhelp, to confirm that, also, try: grub> find /grub/menu.lst
[07:56] <dli> needhelp, it should find (hd0,1) also
[07:56] <scarn> did someone want me? i saw a highlight
[07:57] <needhelp> thanks dli.. trying it
[07:57] <XaviusShadow> I'm having problem installing ubuntu still... everytime I try to install from the cd it gets to a certain part and says it can't find the cd anymore.
[07:57] <howy424> OK, so editplus definitely needs wine
[07:57] <sktx> maybe, scarn, you feel like interpreting a tracerout output for me?
[07:57] <dli> needhelp, after the root command, you can go ahead with the setup command: setup (hd0)
[07:57] <gore_> is there anyway to change the port settings on evolution?
[07:57] <needhelp> it says menu not found
[07:58] <wastrel> gore_:  edit > preferences > mail accounts > edit
[07:58] <gore_> wastrel, yah I'm tehre but I see nothign about specifying the ports
[07:59] <dli> needhelp, or command: find /grub/grub.conf
[07:59] <needhelp> but shud it not be grub> root (hd0,2) as my ubuntu setup is in /dev/hda3
[07:59] <scarn> sktx, if i knew how..i would lol sorry
[07:59] <wastrel> gore in sending & receiving you should have fields...  which are you changing?
[07:59] <sktx> hehe no worries, bro :)
[07:59] <jpgvietnam> can't open it my web brower
[07:59] <gore_> both
[07:59] <jpgvietnam> ^^')
[07:59] <gore_> but I see neither in both of those tabs
[07:59] <dli> needhelp, grub counts from 0, so, hda3 is (hd0,2)  ( indeed, it's not always so, better to confirm with the find command)
[07:59] <gore_> I need to change the pop port and the smtp
[08:00] <jpgvietnam> someone can't help me
[08:00] <wastrel> gore_:  oic no port field.  try appending it to the hostname
[08:00] <needhelp> says find command not found
[08:00] <gore_> like this pop.whatever.com:384
[08:00] <gore_> ?
[08:00] <wastrel> yeah
[08:00] <gore_> k I'll give it a whirl
[08:00] <needhelp> says no such file or dir
[08:01] <jpgvietnam> ^^')
[08:01] <dli> needhelp, sorry, my bad, you many not have a /boot partition
[08:01] <jpgvietnam> ^^
[08:01] <dli> needhelp, find /boot/grub/stage1
[08:02] <dreamcatcher5172> looking for help installing nvidia glx
[08:02] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, did you follow the nvidia binary howto?
[08:02] <dreamcatcher5172> i have fx 5200
[08:02] <dreamcatcher5172> i did
[08:02] <needhelp> says no such file or dir dli
[08:02] <dreamcatcher5172> but xwindow started hiccuping
[08:02] <needhelp> am i f'ed?
[08:02] <dreamcatcher5172> had to cp to origional xorg.conf to get gui back
[08:02] <gore_> how did it hiccup dreamcater?
[08:02] <gore_> didn't start?
[08:02] <dli> needhelp, find /etc/hosts
[08:03] <sktx> jpgvietnam, there's a page with a bunch of chm tools, try looking on there and see if anything jumps out at you.. i'll msg you the URL
[08:03] <dreamcatcher5172> the step that states that xorg.conf driver section needs nvidia instead of nv
[08:03] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, do you have nvidia in lsmod, try: lsmod|grep nv
[08:03] <dreamcatcher5172> thats what messed it up
[08:03] <needhelp> it says /etc/hosts
[08:03] <sktx> hmm
[08:03] <sktx> nevermind, i guess...
[08:03] <dreamcatcher5172> i have it installed...i just cant use it
[08:04] <dreamcatcher5172> cause when i switch drivers in xorg.conf....it hiccups and wont start xwindow or gnome
[08:04] <dli> needhelp, okay, can you find /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[08:04] <gore_> so you changed the driver part o "nvidia" right?
[08:04] <dreamcatcher5172> yeah and thats when it hiccuped
[08:04] <gore_> right
[08:04] <gore_> go to term and try: lsmod | grep nvidia
[08:04] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, do you have nvidia in lsmod, try: lsmod|grep nv
[08:04] <needhelp> no such file or dir dli
[08:04] <dreamcatcher5172> hold up im checking
[08:05] <gore_> see if you have the kernel module loaded
[08:05] <dli> needhelp, or, find /boot/grub/grub.conf
[08:05] <needhelp> dli: i am very sorry that i am talking all your time
[08:05] <dli> needhelp, it's quite easy, don't worry
[08:05] <dreamcatcher5172> nvidia               4550772  0
[08:05] <dreamcatcher5172> i2c_core               21904  2 i2c_acpi_ec,nvidia
[08:05] <dreamcatcher5172> agpgart                34888  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[08:05] <needhelp> dli: says not found
[08:05] <gore_> yah its loaded
[08:05] <dreamcatcher5172> thats what i got...sorry if i broke the rules
[08:06] <howy424> I off to install wine and editplus, and sktx - I am going to get a hold of gvim while I'm at it ;)
[08:06] <gore_> did you look at the error output?
[08:06] <XVampireX> Hi
[08:06] <XVampireX> Need help
[08:06] <sktx> the package, howy424, is called gnome-vim
[08:06] <dli> needhelp, you had grub working before installing windows, I suppose
[08:06] <dreamcatcher5172> i did though i didnt write it down when the error happened
[08:06] <sktx> and if you don't love it, i'll personally kick myself in the ass.
[08:06] <needhelp> dli: no no
[08:06] <XVampireX> Please, someone help me
[08:06] <sktx> howy424, good luck with wine
[08:06] <gore_> have any idead what it todl you was wrong?
[08:06] <soaper> What's the problem?
[08:06] <howy424> great, thanks sktx I will track it down
[08:06] <dli> needhelp, can you just reinstall ubuntu?
[08:07] <sktx> are you drowning, XVampireX ?
[08:07] <XVampireX> I did some tuning through one forum post and now I can't load X
[08:07] <needhelp> I had Ubuntu , XP and installed a new distro dli.. after the removed the distro by formating it.. i cant see my grub anymore
[08:07] <dli> needhelp, sounds like you didn't have it installed properly
[08:07] <JohnnyX> hi can someone tell me where the uninstall software program is located
[08:07] <jon_> I need help installing RealPlayer. When I type in "dir" the file is there but when i type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10Gold.bin" it says there is no such file or directory
[08:07] <XVampireX> How do I load X manually?
[08:07] <sktx> what were you tuning?
[08:07] <dreamcatcher5172> something to do with the xorg.conf file
[08:07] <PORDO> XVampireX startx?
[08:07] <dli> needhelp, you got windows overwriting your ubuntu?
[08:07] <dreamcatcher5172> startx
[08:07] <XVampireX> Hmm, I'll try
[08:07] <needhelp> dli: dual boot
[08:07] <ardchoille> Good night all :)
[08:07] <soaper> good night, ard.
[08:08] <dli> needhelp, then, reinstall ubuntu now, just don't over write windows this time :(
[08:08] <wastrel> dli:  i think he might have installed a different distro over his ubuntu
[08:08] <jon_> I need help installing RealPlayer. When I type in "dir" the file is there but when i type in "chmod a+x RealPlayer10Gold.bin" it says there is no such file or directory
[08:08] <howy424> thanks all, cya
[08:08] <sktx> JohnnyX, it's the same as the program you used to install the software, probably
[08:08] <dreamcatcher5172> i installed the nvidia glx package with the manager but after that i tried to change nv to nvidia in the driver section of the xorg.conf file...when that happened i got a blue screen on a bad resolution telling me xwindos fubuarred
[08:09] <dreamcatcher5172> i cped the xorg.conf file back to the origional state to get back to my gui
[08:09] <dli> jon_, chmod a+x ~/Desktop/RealPlayer10Gold.bin
[08:09] <JohnnyX> synaptic sktx ?
[08:09] <gore_> dreamcatcher5172,  I had to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia website
[08:09] <gore_> its an easy install
[08:09] <needhelp> dli: thank you for all the time and support. I really really tried.. but i think i am done. I need XP for my mp3 player and school. I cant loose it... thanks anyways
[08:09] <sktx> yep yep JohnnyX
[08:09] <gore_> I recommend that
[08:09] <JohnnyX> how do i uninstall?
[08:09] <dreamcatcher5172> i have a fx 5200 256 mb vid card
[08:09] <dreamcatcher5172> i'll check it out...brb
[08:09] <orbin> how come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the way to enable this anymore?
[08:10] <dli> needhelp, did grub find /etc/hosts ?
[08:10] <sktx> you comfortable using the console, JohnnyX ?
[08:10] <dreamcatcher5172> err...how do i know which linux driver from nvidia? 32?
[08:10] <JohnnyX> not for removing software
[08:10] <twitch> im having a serious problem, are there any advanced users here?
[08:10] <JohnnyX> i've only had ubuntu for a couple weeks
[08:10] <sktx> the GUI way: right click the program you want to uninstall, and just choose "Uninstall"
[08:10] <JohnnyX> im still pretty new to it
[08:10] <jon_> still no luck, "no such file or directory". I'm sure it is a simple solution but i don't know what i'm doing wrong
[08:11] <dli> jon_, ls ~/Desktop
[08:11] <sktx> JohnnyX, if you know the name of the package you're trying to uninstall, you can open a console, and use: sudo apt-get remove package-name
[08:11] <dli> jon_, do you see the file?
[08:11] <JohnnyX> alright thanks sktx
[08:11] <JohnnyX> i was thinking it would be harder then that
[08:11] <jon_> ya, its the only thing there
[08:12] <wastrel> JohnnyX:  we can make it harder, if you like :] 
[08:12] <JohnnyX> lol
[08:12] <sktx> you'll find that a lot of things end up being easier than you think they'll be, initially
[08:12] <twitch> whenever i try to login, it takes about 5 attempts, it will start to load the desktop, then black out and return to the login screen, or sometimes go to a console login screen
[08:12] <twitch> any know how to fix?
[08:12] <dli> jon_, sudo chmod a+x ~/Desktop/*
[08:12] <spades> twitch anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[08:13] <Frogzoo> twitch: if it starts sometimes & not others - it's a hardware issue - remove your overclocks, & reseat your memory dimms
[08:13] <dreamcatcher5172> can i get a bit of help getting the driver off the nvidia site?  I dont have experience installing packages outside of the package manager.  Any help is appreciated.
[08:13] <jon_> k, i typed it in, nothing came up tho
[08:13] <JohnnyX> can you use gnome meeting to make phone calls with the dialpad?
[08:13] <twitch> i havent overclocked
[08:13] <dli> twitch, do you have lo? " sudo ifconfig lo "
[08:14] <sktx> dreamcatcher5172, what's the URL?
[08:14] <acetech747> i have two update that will not go through on apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade... how can i get the to go through?
[08:14] <sktx> jpgvietnam, did you get my message?
[08:14] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, you can, go to nvidia.com and download the driver, and run it as root
[08:14] <twitch> dli, yes i do
[08:14] <FunnyLookinHat> dreamcatcher5172, Why would you want to do that?
[08:14] <sktx> acetech747, tried doing it manually through synaptic?
[08:14] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, however, you should follow the ubuntu howto
[08:14] <JohnnyX> how do you connect to limewire using gnu-gntella?
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> dreamcatcher5172, just get it off the ubuntu repositories using synaptic....
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> !nvidia
[08:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:15] <FunnyLookinHat> !multiverse
[08:15] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:15] <jon_> should i move my "RealPlayer10Gold.bin" file to another place and try to install it from there
[08:15] <dli> twitch, check for errors in ~/.xsession-errors
[08:16] <dli> jon_, doesn't matter
[08:16] <jon_> I can see the file but nothing works
[08:16] <dli> jon_, however, I don't understand what could go possibly wrong :(
[08:16] <JohnnyX> is there a better torrent client then tornado?
[08:16] <JohnnyX> is there a bitcomet for ubuntu?
[08:16] <sktx> jon_, what are the permissions on the file?
[08:16] <Aeschylus> azureus is fine but a little hard to setup in ubuntu.
[08:16] <dli> jon_, ls -l ~/Desktop , pastebin the output
[08:17] <acetech747> sktx, i clicked mark all upgrades in synaptic and it is still holding back gnome-cups-manager and python-netcdf
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> JohnnyX, I've heard a lot of people using kTorrent
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> or something similiar
[08:17] <JohnnyX> is it for kde?
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> nah
[08:17] <JohnnyX> because i dont have that installed
[08:17] <Aeschylus> ktorrent's for kde, yah.
[08:17] <sktx> JohnnyX, ktorrent is the closest one to bitcomet/bitlord
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> Well it will work fine in Gnome
[08:17] <fluxinator> freeloader is nice
[08:17] <Aeschylus> it's true
[08:17] <FunnyLookinHat> you've got QT libs im sure
[08:17] <fluxinator> or transmissiob
[08:17] <Aeschylus> kde apps work fine in gnome usually and vice versae
[08:17] <JohnnyX> so ktorrent works in gnome?
[08:17] <JohnnyX> alright
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> Yup
[08:18] <JohnnyX> cause bittornado is kinda crap
[08:18] <fluxinator> yep
[08:18] <FunnyLookinHat> "sudo apt-get install ktorrent" should do it
[08:18] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i got an error
[08:18] <dreamcatcher5172> may i put it up?
[08:18] <spades> !paste
[08:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:18] <roostishaw> what does   && mean in bash?
[08:18] <jon_> whatever, i give up, thanks anyway
[08:18] <JohnnyX> what are some junk files to delete that you never use to free up space?
[08:18] <sktx> bittornado is alright, but now that i think of it, ktorrent is probably the way to go...
[08:19] <JohnnyX> i dont want to delete anything that will f up my system
[08:19] <FunnyLookinHat> JohnnyX, not too many...  linux is pretty light-weight compared to windows
[08:19] <dli> JohnnyX, sudo apt-get clean
[08:19] <dli> JohnnyX, deborphan also
[08:19] <JohnnyX> deborphan?
[08:19] <orbin> roostishaw: command1 && command 2 == "do command1 and do command2"
[08:20] <sktx> JohnnyX, if you search the forum, i seem to remember someone posting a howto on cleaning unnessisary files
[08:20] <dli> JohnnyX, sudo apt-get install deborphan
[08:20] <JohnnyX> alright
[08:20] <JohnnyX> thanks
[08:20] <dreamcatcher5172> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16927
[08:20] <dreamcatcher5172> let me know what you think
[08:20] <dli> JohnnyX, after than sudo deborphan|xargs dpkg --purge
[08:20] <sktx> JohnnyX, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/, poke around in the howto section.. you'lll find a lot of nifty stuff
[08:21] <dreamcatcher5172> i attatched a screenshot as well
[08:21] <JohnnyX> alright thanks
[08:21] <JohnnyX> i only have a 30gig hard drive on this laptop and its already down to 18
[08:21] <roostishaw> what command do i use to launch an app on startup minimized to the tray?
[08:21] <Frogzoo> any ideas why my screen savers now run sooooo slooooowly ?
[08:22] <sktx> Frogzoo, are they 3d/GL screen savers?
[08:22] <Frogzoo> this is after upgrading the fglrx driver - it used to be ok
[08:22] <dreamcatcher5172> i put the pastebin url up
[08:22] <Frogzoo> sktx: rss-glx yup
[08:22] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, you should dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, and should not edit xorg.conf manually
[08:22] <wastrel> you had fglrx running, then you upgraded it?
[08:22] <Frogzoo> sktx: personally recommend them - especially matrixview
[08:22] <dreamcatcher5172> so 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:23] <JohnnyX> does amule have anything but servers for porn?
[08:23] <XVampireX> Ok, I couldn't start X, the problem is from what I understand it, that when I was trying to do the tuning to the file system, it somehow turned the file system into read only file system, how do I fix that?
[08:23] <Frogzoo> JohnnyX: I should hope not
[08:23] <dreamcatcher5172> its asking me if i should let it auto detect
[08:24] <XVampireX> Can anyone help me with that, please?
[08:24] <Frogzoo> sktx: so glx screensavers are broken, or what?
[08:24] <JohnnyX> lol Frogzoo
[08:24] <jon_> I am so frustrated with this RealPlayer problem, is there a type of "remote assistance"
[08:24] <jon_> i need help
[08:24] <dli> XVampireX, could be a filesystem error
[08:24] <orbin> Frogzoo: checked if direct rendering is up and running?
[08:24] <JohnnyX> can you use gnome meeting to make phone calls?
[08:24] <XVampireX> dli: I can't go to the fstab and change it back, it's saying it's read only
[08:24] <XVampireX> Not even in sudo
[08:24] <Frogzoo> orbin: yes, it works - wierd thing is, the screensaver runs fine run in a window, just very slow as a screensaver
[08:25] <dli> jon_, if you can set up openssh-server (and port forwarding at your router), I can login and have a look
[08:25] <Frogzoo>  glxinfo |grep direct
[08:25] <Frogzoo> direct rendering: Yes
[08:25] <pvd> I am having a problem with grub, I get grub error 15 when I boot my computer up.  I had a partition that I resized in half with gparted and then when I rebooted system I got this grub error. I tried to load the ubuntu 5.10 cd to redo the partition tables and then reinstall grub but it wont work. I get an error that says target system isnt clean.
[08:25] <JohnnyX> is there a package fof aMSN so i can view camera?
[08:25] <sktx> XVampireX, sudo nano /etc/fstab doesn't work?
[08:25] <JohnnyX> or for gaim?
[08:25] <jon_> how do i set up openssh-server
[08:25] <dli> XVampireX, that's the real problem, why doesn't it go to ro ? boot livecd, fsck now
[08:25] <XVampireX> sktx: It works, but it doesn't let me change anything there
[08:25] <sktx> JohnnyX, gaim should be installed by default
[08:25] <dreamcatcher5172> in xconfig what should i set the bus identifyer to
[08:25] <JohnnyX> it is
[08:26] <pvd> Maybe I can use the new ubuntu live cd to get into a gui environment and re-install grub?
[08:26] <dreamcatcher5172> ?
[08:26] <JohnnyX> i mean i need something to view cam
[08:26] <Aeschylus> pvd... good idea, but
[08:26] <XVampireX> Ok, live cd
[08:26] <dli> JohnnyX, kopete has webcam, but not sure about the version in ubuntu
[08:26] <Frogzoo> sktx: so what's the deal with 3d/gl screen savers?
[08:26] <sktx> JohnnyX, oh sorry i misunderstood your question
[08:26] <Aeschylus> this is probably an issue that would be better off discussed in the forums...
[08:26] <sktx> Frogzoo, good question
[08:26] <Aeschylus> in a chatroom there is little opportunity to provide your helpers with all the necessary information.
[08:26] <Frogzoo> sktx: lol
[08:26] <P3L|C4N0> flooders
[08:26] <JohnnyX> what was that?
[08:26] <wastrel> join spam
[08:26] <Frogzoo> booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggg!!!!!
[08:27] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, again, you should only use dpkg-reconfigure, but X -configure is good for testing
[08:27] <JohnnyX> why flood thing channel
[08:27] <sktx> JohnnyX, in a word, it was useless
[08:27] <pradeep> this has been happening ..........
[08:27] <Aeschylus> pvd: as I said... the chatroom isn't a very good environment to ask a question which probably requires some depth into how your system got like that and what file system you were using, etc.
[08:27] <dli> !ops someone is flooding
[08:27] <dreamcatcher5172> im sorry i meant xpkg-reconfigure....it asked me to auto detect...should i? or should i manually pick nvidia....
[08:27] <JohnnyX> what was the name of the messenger that had camera capabilities?
[08:27] <JohnnyX> or does gaim have a plugin?
[08:27] <sktx> hrmm
[08:28] <dreamcatcher5172> i tried manual but it asked for a bus identifyer for pci....its an agp card
[08:28] <Aeschylus> someone did flood. someone with some very sophisticated spambots.
[08:28] <sktx> JohnnyX, i can't say i know of one
[08:28] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, you can simply hit enter there for bus id
[08:28] <dreamcatcher5172> so skip it?
[08:28] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, yes
[08:28] <JohnnyX> do you know of a program to make calls from your pc with sktx ?
[08:28] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i'll comeback if i run into more problems
[08:28] <PacketScan> just turn off joins parts.
[08:28] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, if you couldn't get it from dpkg-reconfigure,  " X -configure " is a good idea
[08:29] <rexykik> !kompose
[08:29] <ubotu> I know nothing about kompose
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <P3L|C4N0> Madpilot, add mode +R this channel
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <rzacfttu>  On degage
[08:29] <mcvjnxup>  On degage
[08:29] <mcvjnxup>  On degage
[08:29] <mcvjnxup>  On degage
[08:29] <mcvjnxup>  On degage
[08:29] <twitch> does anyone know how to uninstall the ATI Drivers installed by EasyUbuntu
[08:30] <rob> good stuff
[08:30] <Madpilot> hi rob
[08:30] <rob> hi Madpilot
[08:30] <P3L|C4N0> Madpilot, very well
[08:30] <alindeman> Madpilot: Good call, I'm trying to do server bans in the background, but that'll help
[08:31] <sktx> JohnnyX, ekiga might do it.. are you talking about regular, telephone-line voice calls?
[08:31] <XVampireX> dli: What am I supposed to do in live cd?
[08:31] <Madpilot> it'll work - alindeman, let me know when we can go -R here, though
[08:31] <Aeschylus> Oh, by the way, while there's a lull: The size issue got me interested... so here's a useful little script I just whipped up. It tells you what files in your home directory are taking up the most space... du -S --block-size=M | sort -nr | grep -v '^0M' | less
[08:31] <alindeman> Madpilot: Will do
[08:31] <Aeschylus> remember to change to ~
[08:31] <alindeman> Madpilot: Doesn't look like they are actively joining anymore, but I can't say for how long that'll be true
[08:32] <fr500> hello
[08:32] <fr500> hmmm
[08:32] <Aeschylus> And I admit I din't just whip it up... I've been using that one for years ;)
[08:32] <fr500> noone read my bugs at launchpad....
[08:32] <fr500> man Dapper is the first ubuntu version that breaks things for me
[08:33] <JohnnyX> is anjuta the only compiler?
[08:33] <wastrel> anjuta isn't a compiler
[08:33] <chennaituxian> How to change the keyboard layout preferences ?
[08:34] <JohnnyX> anjuta ide?
[08:34] <JohnnyX> what is it
[08:34] <twitch> anyone?
[08:34] <Guitarhero> Having my network configured and enabled makes me not able to boot into ubuntu anymore has anyone experienced this?
[08:34] <wastrel> anjuta is an IDE
[08:34] <JohnnyX> whats ide?
[08:34] <chennaituxian> anjuta will help make the development process easy
[08:34] <wastrel> twitch:  you want to upgrade the fglrx or return to the prevous ati/radeon driver?
[08:34] <chennaituxian> Intergrated Developement Environment
[08:35] <JohnnyX> so whats a compiler and how do you use  it?
[08:35] <JohnnyX> i installed a bunch of g++
[08:35] <roostishaw> how do i run a dmg install? or file?
[08:35] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: It has an editor, compiler, debugger included in it
[08:35] <usama> hi all
[08:35] <Aeschylus> Guitarhero: could you give us a little more detail?
[08:35] <alindeman> Madpilot: Heads up, might be back
[08:35] <JohnnyX> but there was nothing in the  programing section
[08:35] <Frogzoo> JohnnyX: -> google c compiler
[08:35] <dreamcatcher5172> ok im gonna restart gnome brb
[08:35] <sktx> JohnnyX, the package you probably want for compiling programs from source is "build essential"
[08:35] <Aeschylus> because what you've told us so far is kind of vague...
[08:35] <chennaituxian> Buddies, any one know how to change keyboard layout in Dapper ?
[08:35] <usama> i have installed ubuntu and yesterday i have recieved kubuntu cd, how can i install kde from that cd?
[08:36] <twitch> wastrel, ever since i installed the graphics drivers from easyubuntu ive been having serious problems, i just want to go back to watever ubuntu installed before
[08:36] <sktx> JohnnyX, a compiler is a program that compiles source code into a binary program
[08:36] <roostishaw> how do i run a dmg install? or file?
[08:36] <JohnnyX> so there was no actual gui for it
[08:36] <JohnnyX> you just make it in a text file?
[08:36] <chennaituxian> usama: use apt to install the kdm from the CD
[08:36] <orbin> twitch: there's an #easyubuntu channel
[08:36] <fr500> roostishaw: hmm buy a MAC?
[08:36] <JohnnyX>  and save it as .c++ or whatever
[08:36] <sktx> JohnnyX, make what?
[08:36] <wastrel> twitch:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   choose the radeon driver, i think that should work.
[08:36] <Guitarhero> Ive reinstalled 3 timesa trying to fix this.  Whenever I have my network card in and enabled/configured in ubuntu, after i reboot the boot stops right after checking file systems, which is right before configuring netowrk devices
[08:37] <wastrel> twitch:  actually, check in /etc/X11/   for a backup of your old xorg.conf file
[08:37] <tonyyarusso> usama: If it's the ShipIt CD, you can't.  You need the Alternate CD to use as an apt source.
[08:37] <JohnnyX> im starting to learn c++ and i installed all the G++ compiler and libraries
[08:37] <twitch> wastrel, ok ill try that
[08:37] <JohnnyX> but there was nothing in programming
[08:37] <roostishaw> fr500, sorry, dont got that much mony to spend... adobe just released a binary of flash 9 in dmg format...
[08:37] <JohnnyX> applications > programming
[08:37] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: learn to use gcc instead from the command line
[08:37] <jon_> YES! i installed RealPlayer, thanks all
[08:37] <fr500> roostishaw: dmg files are Mac apps
[08:37] <Aeschylus> don't know much about boot process managing. Can anyone help GuitarHero on this?
[08:38] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i restarted gnome and now i cant raise my resolution
[08:38] <Guitarhero> i have a linksys wireless card if that matters
[08:38] <JohnnyX> is that the only place you can use it chennaituxian ?
[08:38] <usama> tonyyarusso: are they (kubuntu org) are shipping alternate cd?
[08:38] <fr500> roostishaw bottomline, you cant
[08:38] <dreamcatcher5172> im stuck at 640by480
[08:38] <JohnnyX> i'd like to know how to use it from a command line and from a gui
[08:38] <fr500> roostishaw no flashplayer 8 for linux either
[08:38] <Guitarhero> if it cant configure it does that mean its just a driver issue, because when i can get into ubuntu i cant get internet to work anyway
[08:38] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: it is easier to use command line compiling of ur C++ once u learn it how
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> usama: I haven't received my stuff, but I'm told just the Desktop CDs are shipping.
[08:39] <Aeschylus> okay, wait Guitarhero... so when you get it configured the first time, does it work then? Before you reboot it?
[08:39] <Guitarhero> no
[08:39] <JohnnyX> but how would you from a gui just in case?
[08:39] <mak-peur> #$3,1_\|/_ c$8a$4n$3n$8a$4b$3i$8s$3_\|/_ $9"mak peur" $3_\|/_ c$8a$4n$3n$8a$4b$3i$8s$3,1_\|/_ 0
[08:39] <Aeschylus> Okay, that's just a driver issue then. It means the driver doesn't work and you need to get one that does.
[08:39] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: g++ filename.cc -o filename
[08:39] <usama> tonyyarusso: they are now shipping a single cd for both purpoese i.e, live and install
[08:39] <Guitarhero> ive searched and found nothing
[08:39] <Guitarhero> i guess ill keep searching
[08:39] <Aeschylus> Ubuntu is trying to get it to configure and run at boot, and it doesn't cooperate
[08:39] <Madpilot> mak-peur, what the heck was that?
[08:39] <Guitarhero> but it was working
[08:39] <Aeschylus> it was?
[08:39] <Guitarhero> let me explain more
[08:39] <Aeschylus> okay
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> usama: Correct.
[08:40] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: Try Eclipse
[08:40] <mak-peur> I french
[08:40] <dreamcatcher5172> what are my options when the resolution cant be changed after installing nvidia-glx
[08:40] <wastrel> !fr
[08:40] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:40] <mak-peur> I not speek very good anglish
[08:40] <delmar> whats an easy to use prog for "backing up" DVD video disks?
[08:40] <orbin> how come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  or isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the best way to enable this?
[08:41] <sktx> JohnnyX, you're learning c++ as your first programming language? or do you know others?
[08:41] <Guitarhero> i took the hard drive with ubuntu on it out of the computer it used to be in and put it in another one.  THe entwork cards were two different types.  When I first plugged the hard drive in and booted, the internet worked.  But after the first reboot and everyone since i cant get past configuring netowkr devices.  this happens with new installs also
[08:41] <mak-peur> Thank you
[08:41] <usama> tonyyarusso: hmm, it means i have to download everything :( (as a dialup user)
[08:41] <dreamcatcher5172> ouch
[08:41] <JohnnyX> well im reading python and c++ at the same time
[08:41] <JohnnyX> python a little bit faster
[08:41] <Aeschylus> Alright.
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> usama: Yep.  And I'm in the same boat as you - downloading it on dialup now.
[08:41] <JohnnyX> i havent really started getting into c++ seriously yet
[08:41] <Aeschylus> What driver are you using... the original manufacturer one with ndiswrapper? Or are you using madwifi?
[08:41] <chennaituxian> usama: You will get Kdm in local linxu magazine CDs
[08:42] <JohnnyX> i just wanted to get all my ducks in a row before i got into it
[08:42] <dreamcatcher5172> what is the command that allows you to configure the graphics driver?
[08:42] <wastrel> ok what's eclipse?
[08:42] <Aeschylus> or just whatever ubuntu autoconfigured for you and you're not exactly sure?
[08:42] <mak-peur> Suck my dick
[08:42] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: python is mainly a script program so it will be faster
[08:42] <mak-peur> Fuck you shit
[08:42] <usama> tonyyarusso: ok, thanks for your help :)
[08:42] <Aeschylus> mak-peur: that's not very nice.
[08:42] <JohnnyX> yea thats why i chose it
[08:42] <mak-peur> A feel good
[08:42] <wastrel> dreamcatcher5172:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:42] <Madpilot> mak-peur, behave, or leave. Thanks.
[08:43] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: But professional app development mainly occurs in C++
[08:43] <keithhhhh> has anyone installed Kino 8 on Breezy?  I tried and it always says failed to load media.
[08:43] <JohnnyX> yea thats what i've been told
[08:43] <JohnnyX> i also got a book on perl
[08:43] <mak-peur> Where is my unbrela
[08:43] <mak-peur> Where is bryan
[08:43] <chennaituxian> JohnnyX: either learn perl or python
[08:43] <hawkaloogie> then why is a lot of money made in Java and PHP programmers?
[08:43] <JohnnyX> i want to be fairly knowledgable in at least one by the end of summer
[08:44] <chennaituxian> You cant have two swords together
[08:44] <mak-peur> Brayan in the kitchen
[08:44] <zcat[1] > keithhhhh: set default media format PAL or NTSC.. fixed it for me..
[08:44] <sktx> JohnnyX, python, i've heard is a great first programming language
[08:44] <snoops> chennaituxian that depends on what you're developing for entirely.. Most programmers end up writing business applications or web applications these days.. And those markets are usually dominated by php, java, c#.net, asp.net
[08:44] <Guitarhero> sorry i was disconnected
[08:44] <JohnnyX> yea thats what i heard to sktx
[08:44] <Guitarhero> any ideas?
[08:44] <zcat[1] > something like that can't recall exactly what the option was
[08:44] <sktx> i did a couple python tutorials and it seemed pretty straightforward,,, fun stuff.
[08:44] <chennaituxian> Jonhy, python is better than pearl, easier to learn and use
[08:44] <snoops> perl, you mean ;)
[08:44] <sktx> hehe my first "programming" language was mircscript
[08:44] <chennaituxian> snoops: am a PHP programmer, FYI
[08:44] <Aeschylus> Guitarhero: are you using madwifi, ndiswrapper, or did ubuntu just automatically assign the driver?
[08:45] <JohnnyX> yea comparing some perl scripts to some python ones ive seen it was much easier to understand python
[08:45] <luke> is there any way to use windows icon files (.ico) in Ubuntu? Please??
[08:45] <Guitarhero> automatically
[08:45] <sktx> that and python code is pretty by nature
[08:45] <Guitarhero> its call ra0
[08:45] <stephan__> !azureus
[08:45] <ubotu> azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:45] <sktx> be design even
[08:45] <Guitarhero> the device
[08:45] <snoops> chennaituxian just commenting because your c++ statement was a bit false
[08:45] <Guitarhero> my old one was wlan0
[08:45] <Aeschylus> okay.
[08:45] <efox> where do you throw scripts to start on login ?
[08:45] <JohnnyX> does anyone have or know where to get some good pdf's on javascript?
[08:45] <sktx> azureus is kludge though
[08:45] <luke> is there any way to use windows icon files (.ico) in Ubuntu? Please??
[08:45] <dreamcatcher5172> ok restarting gnome again brb
[08:45] <JohnnyX> ive been searching minova all day
[08:45] <sktx> JohnnyX, try mininova.org
[08:45] <Aeschylus> To begin with I don't think it's an issue with the hard drive.
[08:46] <JohnnyX> i did sktx
[08:46] <sktx> its a bittorrent search place.. its where i get all my ebooks
[08:46] <Aeschylus> You can throw that idea aside, simply because the hard drive couldn't have anything to do with it.
[08:46] <Guitarhero> yeah me neither
[08:46] <chennaituxian> snoops: i meant no offence, peace :D
[08:46] <sktx> oh cool, you know about it haha
[08:46] <JohnnyX> the only ones i found didnt start downloading
[08:46] <zcat[1] > luke: open them in gimp and save them again as pnm or whatever
[08:46] <sktx> tried torrentspy?
[08:46] <Guitarhero> so its probably a network driver issue
[08:46] <JohnnyX> yea
[08:46] <luke> zcat[1] , ty
[08:46] <Aeschylus> Now, here's what I want you to do...
[08:46] <Guitarhero> how do i get it to be wlan0 or something else
[08:46] <Guitarhero> okl
[08:46] <JohnnyX> torrentspy and mininova are like my go to places when i need ebooks
[08:46] <sktx> Guitarhero, that's the part iwas never able to get past
[08:46] <Aeschylus> do you have your computer on right now?
[08:47] <snoops> chennaituxian didn't take it as offence.. misinformation is the killer though ;)
[08:47] <sktx> JohnnyX, me too, i got a pack from torrent spy that was like 3 gigs of various (mostly fiction) ebooks
[08:47] <mak-peur> do you want to fock you hass
[08:47] <Guitarhero> yes but i put in a windows hard drive so i could use it in the mean time
[08:47] <wastrel> try webmonkey.com for javascript tutorials
[08:47] <JohnnyX> yea i got palahnuiks books from him
[08:47] <wastrel> and reference
[08:47] <Guitarhero> so you are going to have to tell me what to do then i have to swap hard drives and hope all goes well
[08:47] <JohnnyX> has anyone read maddox's new book?
[08:47] <mak-peur> fuck
[08:47] <sktx> JohnnyX, nice, i found neal stephenson on there, he blows me away.
[08:47] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i retried the nvidia drivers...they just wont let me change the resolution after the fact...any tips buddy?
[08:47] <mak-peur> fuck londre
[08:48] <chennaituxian> snoops: I just din't want him to stop trying to learn C++, he is already learning perl, ;)
[08:48] <JohnnyX> i found a torrent of it on torrent but it doesnt download
[08:48] <Aeschylus> I don't think I can do that succesfully. But here's what I want you to do anyway. 3 steps.
[08:48] <JohnnyX> neal stephenson i heard that name the other day
[08:48] <sktx> JohnnyX, no but i want to.. i'm gonna try and get to the book signing when he comes to california
[08:48] <JohnnyX> what does he write about
[08:48] <JohnnyX> i wouldnt want to meet him
[08:48] <Madpilot> JohnnyX, could you move the book chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please?
[08:48] <Aeschylus> 1) go into the command line, and type 'sudo cat /proc/modules' and find the lines you think have to do with your wireless device.
[08:48] <JohnnyX> he seems like an unbearable prick
[08:48] <JohnnyX> funny though
[08:48] <JohnnyX> oh sorry maddler
[08:48] <sktx> sorry Madpilot
[08:48] <JohnnyX> Madpilot*
[08:49] <efox> are boot scripts kept in /etc/init.d ?
[08:49] <Aeschylus> 2) after writing those down, type 'sudo iwconfig', and copy the output of that down somewhere to, to file on a disk, or onto paper, whatever.
[08:49] <Madpilot>  #ubuntu-offtopic is nice and quiet, guys :)
[08:49] <efox> so if i throw a script in there it will load upon bootin ?
[08:49] <wastrel> dreamcatcher5172:  i'm not familiar with the nvidia config software...  maybe check your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ...
[08:49] <Guitarhero> so what do i do
[08:49] <dreamcatcher5172> i suppose the driver doesnt work for my comp im gonna switch back to nv driver set
[08:49] <chennaituxian> efox, obviosuly
[08:49] <dreamcatcher5172> oh ok
[08:49] <dreamcatcher5172> let me check that out
[08:49] <Aeschylus> 3) After doing those first two steps, go back into windows, and post all this information on the ubuntuforum.
[08:49] <efox> chennaituxian: but do i have to do anything special or can i just put them in there ?
[08:50] <Aeschylus> That way, someone is likely to come by and help you.
[08:50] <chennaituxian> !boot scripts
[08:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about boot scripts
[08:50] <Aeschylus> Someone who knows more about it than me, really.
[08:50] <Guitarhero> alright
[08:50] <Guitarhero> thank you for the help
[08:50] <Aeschylus> no problem
[08:50] <chennaituxian> efox: google! :D
[08:50] <Guitarhero> ok well im goin to bed, thanks guys!
[08:51] <Aeschylus> I need to take a nap as well, probably... but I must study! Gwargh!
[08:51] <PORDO> anybody here have an FOAF page?
[08:51] <dreamcatcher5172> ok can i paste file contents on pastebin one moment plz
[08:53] <Timir> Could someone tell me what LAN TCP/IP RIP is?
[08:53] <sktx> pordo, FOAF?
[08:54] <sktx> Timir, LAN = Local Access Network ... TCP/IP = Transfer Control Protocol /(over/ Internet Protocol
[08:54] <zcat[1] > local area network..
[08:54] <sktx> RIP = Rest In Peace. or Pieces. :p
[08:54] <sktx> oh yeah
[08:54] <zcat[1] > rip == routing information protocol
[08:54] <Timir> sktx, RIP is disabled on my router, is that bad?
[08:55] <sktx> Timir, i couldn't really tell ya
[08:55] <Timir> sktx, Would it hurt to turn it on?
[08:55] <sktx> Timir, but probably not
[08:55] <Timir> in RIP version it has RIP_1 RIP_2B and RIP_2M
[08:55] <Timir> any clue on that?
[08:55] <sktx> Timir, my policy is usually to keep as much turned off as possible, and only let the traffic that needs to come through, come through
[08:56] <luke> is there any easy way to get a Home, Trash, Thunderbird, Firefox etc. shortcuts onto my desktop?
[08:56] <tomplast> Hi everyone, can anyone please tell me how to get multimedia plugins working in Opera?
[08:57] <tomplast> I have them perfectly (mor or less) working in firefox
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> luke: Drag and drop from the menus.
[08:57] <luke> hey, it works ;)
[08:57] <whitehorseNtiger> I have set up Samba for Ubuntu to share a few directories with a WIndows laptop on my network....if I open up a few ports in my Linksys can I have the same Windows laptop access the same directories over the Internet from a different network(location)?  How would I go about this?  Probably not worth it.  Would it be hard to set up?
[08:57] <dreamcatcher5172> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/863
[08:58] <dreamcatcher5172> thats my xorg.conf file can someone look at it and find out why i cant change resolutions?
[08:58] <dreamcatcher5172> any help is appreciated
[08:59] <Timir> sktx, my router isn't letting info through to  the internet from a computer(Trying to host a small game for 2 or 3 friends), if I plug the machine running it directly into the internet then it will host it, but I kinda want it behind the router
[08:59] <wastrel> dreamcatcher5172:  what i would do is go in and edit out the modes you don't want (save a backup first)
[08:59] <varsendaggr> dreamcatcher5172, download xrandr   and run it
[08:59] <dreamcatcher5172> what is xrandr
[08:59] <wastrel> dreamcatcher5172:  like if you only want 1024x768, take out 800x600 and 640x480
[08:59] <mamoru> Anyone know how to get Gnome to automatically sort the icons on my desktop?
[09:00] <dreamcatcher5172> oh ok i get it...gonna try again
[09:00] <wastrel> or what varsendaggr says
[09:00] <orbin> how come suspend isn't showing up in my logout menu?  or isn't /etc/default/acpi-support the best way to enable this?
[09:00] <tritium> orbin: it is
[09:00] <varsendaggr> dreamcatcher5172, yeah you can run that and --help for the instructions
[09:00] <garryF> !xrandr > garry
[09:00] <tritium> orbin: you need to comment out the 2nd line
[09:00] <fdisque> mamoru: right click on desktop select "Clean up by name"
[09:00] <garryF> !xrandr > garryf
[09:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about xrandr
[09:01] <varsendaggr> !info xrandr
[09:01] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[09:01] <orbin> tritium: i have.  usually it shows up after i do that.  it isn't however.  i only get hibernate
[09:01] <garryF> Oh yes, thanks.
[09:01] <tritium> orbin: have you restarted?
[09:01] <varsendaggr> you bet
[09:01] <orbin> tritium: yes
[09:01] <mamoru> fdisque: That does it once.
[09:01] <orbin> hence why i'm asking in here.  dunno what's happening
[09:02] <tritium> orbin: what does "acpi -V" list for you?
[09:02] <mamoru> I want it to do it automatically.
[09:02] <orbin> tritium: which part do you need?
[09:02] <tritium> orbin: just verify that you have acpi working
[09:03] <orbin> tritium:  Battery 1: discharging, 41%, rate information unavailable.  Thermal 1: ok, 50.0 degrees C  AC Adapter 1: off-line
[09:03] <tritium> okay
[09:03] <tritium> orbin: which laptop?
[09:03] <orbin> preasrio m2000 series
[09:04] <orbin> m2217ap to be exact
[09:04] <cwillu> is there a terminal service server of ubuntu, or is edubuntu it?
[09:04] <tritium> orbin: okay, that's not whitelisted.  please put your /etc/default/acpi-support on pastebin
[09:05] <wastrel> cwillu:  ltsp packages are in ubuntu
[09:05] <wastrel> i don't know anything about them but they're in the repo ;] 
[09:05] <fluxinator> I just set up postfix how do I check my mail
[09:05] <fluxinator> ?
[09:06] <wastrel> fluxinator:  postfix is an outgoing mail server
[09:06] <fluxinator> shit!
[09:06] <tritium> fluxinator: watch your language
[09:06] <wastrel> fluxinator:  where's your mail (watch your language :)
[09:06] <fluxinator> sorry
[09:06] <garryF> Got mail?
[09:07] <fluxinator> i just sent mail from gmail to localhost@blahblahblah
[09:07] <fluxinator> how can I check that?
[09:07] <wastrel> fluxinator:  wait you are trying to receive mail on your ubuntu box?
[09:08] <orbin> tritium: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16928
[09:08] <sktx> to localhost@blahblahblah?
[09:08] <fluxinator> not literally
[09:08] <tritium> fluxinator: did you mail to a valid address?
[09:08] <fluxinator> yes
[09:08] <fluxinator> afaik
[09:08] <wastrel> fluxinator:  the address is your ubuntu box?
[09:08] <fluxinator> yes
[09:08] <evgind> hi
[09:08] <spades> check /var/mail ?
[09:08] <tritium> orbin: did you check /var/log for any errors messages in the log files?
[09:09] <wastrel> fluxinator:  ok in that case yes postfix should handle that
[09:09] <fluxinator> ill check
[09:09] <tritium> orbin: acpi-support looks good
[09:09] <fluxinator> how do I check it then wastrel?
[09:09] <orbin> tritium: er, which log file?  syslog?
[09:09] <wastrel> fluxinator:  well do you have a user called localhost on the system ? :] 
[09:10] <tritium> orbin: messages, syslog, kern.log
[09:10] <crazy_penguin> good day all! :)
[09:10] <tritium> orbin: also, check your dmesg output
[09:10] <fluxinator> wastrel no
[09:10] <wastrel> fluxinator:  check /var/spool/mail  or /usr/spool/mail
[09:10] <pvd2006> I need some help re-installing grub from the live-cd I've tried a couple of methods off ubuntu forums with no luck with grub-install.
[09:10] <orbin> oh, goodie. :-/
[09:10] <orbin> do error messages have a syntax i can search for?
[09:10] <orbin> or do i have to read through all this? :-/
[09:10] <burntsigil> So is there no way to have gnome automatically sort desktop launchers?
[09:11] <orbin> burntsigil: right-click > clean up by name?
[09:13] <burntsigil> orbin: That does it once.  I want it to do it automatically every time a launcher is created on the desktop.
[09:14] <Lynoure> fluxinator: has the hostname been configured to accept mail in the dns? see http://www.rscott.org/dns/mx.html  Otherwise receiving mail other than locally sent  is pretty doomed.
[09:14] <orbin> tritium: aha! worked it out.  gconf key apps/gnomepowermanager/can_suspend was unchecked.
[09:15] <orbin> burntsigil: oh, i see.  dunno then sorry
[09:15] <wastrel> if there's no mx record mail will be delivered to the host in the address
[09:15] <tritium> orbin: the gnome power manager is separate from acpi-support, though.
[09:15] <efox> how do i delete a folder BUT keep the contents, so remove the contents and put them into another location...can this be done with 1-2 commands ?
[09:15] <wastrel> but good point Lynoure
[09:15] <Aeschylus> yeah, efox.
[09:15] <tritium> orbin: it should work regardless of g-p-m settings
[09:15] <orbin> burntsigil: maybe ask in #gnome or put it in as a feature request
[09:16] <efox> Aeschylus:  what would the syntax be ? or a google keyword so i know what im lookin for
[09:16] <Aeschylus> mv ~/directorytodelete/* ~/newdirectory; rmdir ~/directorytodelete
[09:16] <orbin> tritium: but wouldn't the gui icon be part of gnome, not acpi?
[09:16] <Aeschylus> try it out...
[09:16] <Lynoure> wastrel: I'm not sure all systems will... Unless it is in the RFCs that they must. (Cannot remember whether it is)
[09:16] <tritium> orbin: yes, but not related to the power manager
[09:16] <wastrel> it's in the rfc
[09:16] <wastrel> but still maybe not all systems will :] 
[09:17] <orbin> it's there.  that's all i care about :)
[09:17] <tritium> okay
[09:17] <orbin> thanks for the help
[09:17] <devonst17_> Yo, Dapper 6.02 PPC problem,
[09:17] <tritium> sure, glad you got it working
[09:17] <Aeschylus> efox: those directories can be anywhere though. ~ just means /home/yourusername
[09:17] <Lynoure> fluxinator: if you got a bounce message at gmail, the contents of that can tell you a lot.
[09:17] <efox> Aeschylus: ya i know that part. =)
[09:17] <Aeschylus> :) yeah, jus checkin.
[09:18] <Lynoure> hmm, must have breakfast
[09:18] <fluxinator> lynoure no bounced mail
[09:18] <devonst17_> I've got an iBook clamshell, 800x600 resolution max, when I boot up the LiveCD, it looks perfectly fine till it loads X, at which point I get a black screen
[09:18] <devonst17_> I was guessing this was a resolution conflict,
[09:19] <devonst17_> so I booted up with the alternate video setting (cant remember what it was, sry)
[09:19] <devonst17_> and it dumped me into bash
[09:19] <garryF> Are you using grub devonst17_?
[09:19] <fluxinator> wastrel you accept pm?
[09:19] <devonst17_> garryF: It booted fine, this is the 6.02 livecd I just downloaded today
[09:19] <devonst17_> well,
[09:19] <devonst17_> It booted fine till it started x
[09:19] <garryF> Oh I see.
[09:20] <wastrel> fluxinator:  just this once
[09:20] <devonst17_> and garryF its yaboot
[09:20] <devonst17_> *yabboot
[09:20] <wastrel> fluxinator:  you need to identify with nickserv or you can't send pm's on this network.
[09:21] <devonst17_> anyway, it dumped me into Bash,
[09:21] <pvd2006> when I type in  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/boot /dev/hdc2 I get this error, "The file /mnt/hdc2/boot/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly." I need to re-install grub onto my hdc2 partition.
[09:21] <fluxinator> wastrel http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185913
[09:21] <stefg> devonst17_: This is not an uncommon issue...
[09:21] <fluxinator> followed that link
[09:21] <efox> awwwwwwww
[09:21] <pvd2006> why is it putting in two boots?
[09:21] <efox> that guy told me to do something and i just lost my scripts
[09:21] <fluxinator> sent email to localhost@xxx.dyn.optonline.net
[09:21] <efox> dammit
[09:22] <garryF> Sounds like a driver issue or the card in the ibook isn't supported.
[09:22] <devonst17_> stefg: I've found nothing :(
[09:22] <devonst17_> garryF: It recognized my iBook
[09:22] <devonst17_> it identified it as a Pismo/Clamshell/G4 powerbook
[09:22] <wastrel> sec
[09:22] <fluxinator> sure
[09:22] <garryF> devonst17_ Ye mean it recognized the video card? Try startx
[09:23] <devonst17_> garryF: 2 problems,
[09:23] <devonst17_> One, it booted me into x before
[09:23] <devonst17_> I got a plain black screen
[09:23] <pvd2006> Looks like I am going to have to chroot into it and fix it
[09:23] <devonst17_> which is what led me to believe a resolution conflict
[09:24] <garryF> Yeah, which makes me think it has misidentified the card, but mysterious that it worked before.
[09:24] <stefg> devonst17_: The forums and the net were full of reports, when I set up an oldish iMac G3 4 weeks ago.. The video-autorecognition simply doesn't work perfect. type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg at the bash-prompt and do it manually (sometimes 15-bit colour is required!)
[09:24] <garryF> Yay stefg!
[09:24] <devonst17_> stefg: Does this problem also effect the terminal?
[09:24] <devonst17_> stefg: cause it was _WAY_ the hell off
[09:25] <devonst17_> The screen started about -20,-10 chars off
[09:26] <stefg> Thsi is the somewhat odd video-hardware... you'll need the Original-OS to adjust that
[09:26] <wastrel> fluxinator:  so you were following that howto?  do you have postfix running?
[09:26] <devonst17_> Sorry, I dont understand what your talking about,
[09:27] <devonst17_> MacOSx?
[09:27] <fluxinator> yes, i think so
[09:27] <wastrel> fluxinator:  telnet localhost 25
[09:27] <fluxinator> wastrel telnet localhost 25
[09:28] <fluxinator> sorry
[09:28] <fluxinator> ment to to post output
[09:28] <fluxinator> 220 ool-44c79bae.dyn.optonline.net ESMTP Postfix (Ubuntu)
[09:28] <tritium> !enter
[09:28] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:28] <wastrel> fluxinator:  ok, you have postfix running.
[09:28] <stefg> devonst17_ the thing with apples is that there's certain pram parameters (e.g. video-settings) that linux can't access
[09:28] <wastrel> flux you can type quit
[09:29] <cwillu> can I do a kubuntu server from a ubuntu desktop install some way like the apt-get install ubuntu-desktop method?
[09:29] <stefg> devonst17_: but there's more knowledgeable people around than me when it comes to powerbooks
[09:29] <wastrel> fluxinator:  try mail -v  <username>@localhost    with your username before the @
[09:29] <devonst17_> stefg: (Sorry to correct you when you are helping me and all, but its not an apple... Apples went out of production a very long time ago. The computers Apple makes these days are called Macs)
[09:30] <stefg> Ok... then I' ll drink my Mac-Juice and be quiet :-)
[09:30] <tritium> devonst17_: sorry to correct you, but you used "your" when you meant "you're" above ;)
[09:30] <garryF> LOL
[09:30] <garryF> stefg Great rejoinder!
[09:31] <fluxinator> wastrel mail -v fluxinator@localhost  command not found
[09:31] <devonst17_> tritium: o_O
[09:31] <devonst17_> Ah fack
[09:31] <Tiako44> hey
[09:31] <ruoho> has anyone been able to solve the nvidia driver problem regarding freezes?
[09:31] <wastrel> fluxinator:  ah well nvm.
[09:31] <devonst17_> you're right
[09:31] <Tiako44> Is Java 5.0 preinstalled?
[09:31] <wastrel> fluxinator:  ok you're connected directly to the internet, or are you behind a router
[09:32] <tritium> devonst17_: I'm just giving you a hard time :)
[09:32] <fluxinator> directly to the net
[09:32] <Tiako44> I tried "sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin" and its not working.
[09:32] <garryF> LoL, I thought ye were serious. hehe
[09:32] <tritium> Tiako44: no, but you can install it easily
[09:32] <devonst17_> tritium: I hate it when other people do that too, I appreciate the criticism
[09:32] <Tiako44> k I got the bins on there
[09:32] <Tiako44> .bin
[09:32] <cwillu> Tiako44: don't need or want to use them
[09:33] <cwillu> Tiako44: make sure the universe repo's are enabled, and then just install from synaptic
[09:33] <wastrel> they're in multiverse
[09:33] <garryF> I've not herd of this mvidia driver freeze issue.
[09:33] <Tiako44> How do I make sure its enable?
[09:33] <garryF> er heard
[09:33] <Tiako44> From console
[09:34] <Tiako44> Arg did I get disconnected again?
[09:34] <tritium> Tiako44: which do you want?  jre?  jdk?
[09:34] <Tiako44> Whats the differnce?
[09:34] <DarkMageZ> java runtime enviroment, java developer kit
[09:34] <wastrel> you'll need the java plugin to.
[09:34] <wastrel> too, even
[09:34] <Tiako44> the enviroemtn
[09:34] <Tiako44> enviroment
[09:35] <fluxinator> wastrel any suggestions
[09:35] <fluxinator> ?
[09:35] <Tiako44> I downloaded jre.5.0.7
[09:35] <stefg> !java
[09:35] <bretonslivka> this is a very lively channel
[09:35] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[09:36] <stefg> !repos
[09:36] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:36] <ruoho> !nvidia
[09:36] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:36] <wastrel> fluxinator:  check in the postfix config where it's putting mail.  try sending an email to your userid@your.hostname
[09:36] <devonst17_> Aite,
[09:36] <wastrel> fluxinator:  make sure your router or firewall is configured to allow traffic to your ubuntu machine on port 25
[09:36] <devonst17_> Wish me luck all
[09:37] <Tiako44> It does not say how to do it from console.
[09:37] <tritium> see you devonst17_
[09:37] <devonst17_> im going to attempt to resize my OSx partition to make room for an ubuntu partition
[09:37] <wastrel> fluxinator:  check logs in /var/log  to see what postfix is doing (may need to enable logging in the config)
[09:37] <garryF> Good luck.
[09:37] <IIIIIcccccceeeee> goooooooooooo
[09:37] <tritium> devonst17_: which machine?
[09:38] <devonst17_> tritium: this one, an indigo Clamshell, 320 megs of ram and a 100 gig HD
[09:38] <tritium> ah, okay.
[09:38] <devonst17_> tritium: thats why I say wish me luck :)
[09:38] <Tiako44> Oh if I dont use add/remove then I have to download the bin my self right?
[09:38] <tritium> devonst17_: :)
[09:39] <stefg> devonst17_: http://digg.com/linux_unix/Ten_tips_for_new_Ubuntu_users might be an interesting read for you
[09:39] <garryF> tritium I had a friend alydar who said he used tritium when we were talking on icq. I know him from an online game of ages ago. Would that be you?
[09:39] <pvd2006> Can someone help me with grub-install? I try to sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/boot /dev/hdc and I get this error, The file /mnt/hdc2/boot/boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly. Then if I try sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/hdc2/  /dev/hdc I get the error /dev/hdc does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. I've been reading the forums and IVe already tried 4 different methods and Ive looked through grub-install --help to see its 
[09:39] <tritium> garryF: no, sorry
[09:40] <garryF> tritium np. :)
[09:40] <dli> pvd2006, can you setup in grub?
[09:40] <pvd2006> dli, what do you mean? Get to the command line part of grub setup?
[09:41] <dli> pvd2006, yes
[09:41] <devonst17_> oh man,
[09:41] <devonst17_> <3 ubuntu already
[09:41] <pvd2006> dli, yes I can get to that.
[09:41] <devonst17_> Havent even booted it
[09:41] <devonst17_> and I love it
[09:41] <garryF> Hmm, thoat dont sound right. Root directory should look like /dev/hdc2/boot no mnt in it.
[09:41] <garryF> er thoat, grrrr = that
[09:41] <devonst17_> its got Nano set as its default text editor ^_^
[09:42] <snoops> I've been playing with the 64bit of ubuntu, and while I like it, there are still a few too many annoying things - getting wine to work, hastling with chroot 32bit etc etc
[09:42] <stefg> pvd2006: the easiest way is normally to boot from a CD, escape to the menu and get a command line by 'c'. then 'find /boot/grub/stage1' 'root (hdX,X) [what the 'find' spit out]  'setup (hdX)' and you're done
[09:42] <snoops> is there a way to convert down to a 32bit release, and remove the 64bit packages.. or at least replace the 64bit packages with 32bit versions?
[09:42] <pvd2006> stefg, I tried that on here.
[09:42] <pvd2006> Im on the live cd
[09:43] <stefg> pvd2006: then open a terminal and 'sudo grub'
[09:43] <bretonslivka> i am having a very difficult time with lirc. :(
[09:43] <pvd2006> stefg: K I am in
[09:43] <stefg> pvd2006: find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:44] <jpiccolo> i have a question about ktorrent
[09:44] <pvd2006> stefg: (hd0,1)
[09:44] <pvd2006> so root (hd0, 1)
[09:45] <devonst17_> aite.
[09:45] <stefg> pvd2006: so it's correct that you ubuntu/boot partion is /dev/hda2?
[09:45] <devonst17_> off I go.
[09:45] <pvd2006> stefg, no, its on a different partition hdc2
[09:45] <pvd2006> ./mnt/hdc2/boot
[09:46] <pvd2006> without the .
[09:46] <fluxinator> wastrel you mean main.cf yes?
[09:46] <dli> pvd2006, in grub command line: find /grub/stage1
[09:46] <stefg> ahhh, ok... so how comes that the stage one is on hd*a* then?
[09:47] <wastrel> fluxinator:  i dunno, i don't run postfix
[09:47] <jpiccolo> the Kubuntu 5.10 (amd64) of KTorrent will not work for 6.06 Dapper 64bit, will it?
[09:47] <pvd2006> I dont have any hdas, but I am on the live cd.
[09:48] <pvd2006> they are all hdcs
[09:48] <fluxinator> wastrel would it be in /var/spools
[09:48] <pvd2006> for my hard drives
[09:48] <wastrel> fluxinator:  /var/spool/mail/  possibly
[09:48] <wastrel> or try the mailq command
[09:48] <wastrel> or it might get delivered to maildir in the local users home directory
[09:48] <stefg> pvd2006: Ahhh.... grub is confused, because your HD is on the second IDE-Channel, and no drive is present on the first
[09:49] <pvd2006> cd rom is on the first I think or the 2nd, not sure.
[09:49] <dli> pvd2006, in grub command line: find /grub/stage1
[09:49] <pvd2006> dli, tried that
[09:49] <dli> pvd2006, and?
[09:49] <kingfisher> @search lifehouse
[09:49] <Ubugtu> No matching larts were found.
[09:49] <pvd2006> Error 15: File not found
[09:50] <fluxinator> wastrel,  I am seriously hating postfix atm
[09:50] <stefg> pvd2006: read about the 'map' option with grub... you'll have to tell grub to virtually swap adapters to boot
[09:50] <dli> pvd2006, find /boot/grub/stage1
[09:50] <pvd2006> (hd0,1)
[09:50] <wastrel> fluxinator:  what are you trying to accomplish, forget postfix.  you need to setup a mail server?  or you are trying to leanr bout mail servers
[09:51] <fluxinator> wastrel it says mailqueue is empty
[09:51] <fluxinator> wastrel a little of both
[09:51] <wastrel> fluxinator:  check gmail for a bounce
[09:51] <efox> when modifying cron, does    * */2 * * *   mean every 2 hours ?
[09:52] <fluxinator> wastrel no bounce mail
[09:52] <wastrel> fluxinator:  the mail system on the internet is pretty sensitive to spam these days.   a mail server without proper DNS records and a static ip is going to get flagged as a spammer frequently
[09:52] <fluxinator> then Ill just get rid of postfix
[09:52] <dli> pvd2006, root (hd0,1)
[09:52] <dli> pvd2006, setup (hd0)
[09:53] <pvd2006>  Running "install /boot/grub/stage1 (hd0) (hd0)1+15 p (hd0,1)/boot/grub/stage2 /boot/grub/menu.lst"... succeeded
[09:53] <pvd2006> Done.
[09:53] <pvd2006> so I should be good to go?
[09:53] <garryF> crosses fingers.
[09:53] <dli> pvd2006, mount the partition, make sure you have correct menu.lst
[09:53] <pvd2006> k
[09:54] <fluxinator> wastrel, i think im just going to scrap it totally
[09:54] <pvd2006> sudo gedit /mnt/hdc2/boot/grub/menu.lst looks fine
[09:55] <wastrel> fluxinator:  k.
[09:55] <garryF> Could do a pastebin of it so we could see incase it don't work.
[09:55] <dli> pvd2006, then, you can reboot with it
[09:55] <pvd2006> alright, ill pastebin it first.
[09:56] <wastrel> bedtime
[09:57] <pvd2006> http://pastebin.ca/76214 is my pastebin of menu.list, I will brb, going to try to reboot and log in.
[09:58] <ic56> efox: yes, * */2 means ev.2 hrs.
[09:58] <efox> ic56: thanks
[09:58] <ic56> efox: yw!
[09:58] <efox> ic56: does that happen on the hour, or from the time i modified the crontab ?
[10:00] <ic56> efox: actually, wait a minute. the first * is minutes. so the above says *every* minute on alternate hours. from midnight to 1am, ev.minute
[10:00] <ic56>  from 1am to 2am not at all.
[10:00] <spades> 0 */2
[10:00] <ic56> efox: what you want is something like 23 */2  which means ev.2 hrs at 23 mins past the hour
[10:00] <efox> oic
[10:01] <[1] bill> I've been experianceing intermitant hard locks with dapper for the last few weeks, and today it finally failed to boot.  Half the data on the harddrive is gone and the install program is sending thousdands of badcrc and seekcomplete errors whenever it tries to write data.  Is this consistent with a dead hd?
[10:01] <garryF> Yes, or a dying one.
[10:02] <Thib_G> Hello
[10:02] <sp_> hello
[10:02] <[1] bill> ok, thanks.
[10:02] <ic56> efox: make a habbit of starting jobs at random minutes past the hour.  This way, you won't end up with jobs hogging the CPU simultaneously.  Remember, if you're networked, your jobs can affect others and others can affect you, eg if you receive mail, mirror websites, etc
[10:02] <Thib_G> Has sameone ever tried to convert a video to mp4 ?
[10:02] <pvd2006> alright, it works now:)
[10:02] <sp_> Any Lyx users
[10:02] <pvd2006> thanks dli and the other person who helped me
[10:02] <garryF> if it has smart technology and your bios can check it, it can tell you if hte drive is dying.
[10:02] <garryF> Yay pvd2006!
[10:03] <bretonslivka> mp4
[10:03] <pvd2006> funny thing is, I tried the same command and it didnt work, I must of put too many spaces or something.
[10:03] <sp_> Looking for someone who has used lyx and jabref
[10:04] <stefg> [1] bill: you don't need the smart-monitor... i you see someone bleeding, you can tell he's injured, cant you?
[10:04] <garryF> Easy to do little tyepos/
[10:04] <garryF> hehe
[10:04] <pvd2006> Oh yeah, I am great at those:)
[10:04] <garryF> Unless its a dying cable.
[10:05] <stefg> ^true^ or a loose connection
[10:05] <dooglus> anyone familiar with ntop: is the 'throughput' on the 'network load' graphs in bits or bytes?
[10:05] <garryF> Yep, I can type-o at 70 epm. errors per minute
[10:06] <stefg> good point fo #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:06] <garryF> One time the company I worked for went through a whole box of cables and was about to toss the drive when we find out that every single cable was bad.
[10:10] <looksaus> I'm looking for a decent keyboard layout for my ibook with a Belgian keyboard
[10:10] <efox> ic56: ok, that makes sense.
[10:10] <ic56> efox: yw!
[10:11] <cute_bettong> anyone know why ever ubuntu cd i have tryed to burn has failed? like it dose'nt work
[10:12] <compengi> cute_bettong, did you try to burn it on 4x?
[10:12] <cute_bettong> i tryed at 1x
[10:12] <cute_bettong> and it still had horrible errors
[10:12] <garryF> Well. Only thing that has messed up a burn is if I started something processor intensive while burning.
[10:13] <compengi> gallag, it can be
[10:13] <Frogzoo> cute_bettong: sometime you can burn too _slow_ - try 75% of max speed
[10:13] <[1] bill> stefg: yeah, I Just have somehow never had one fail on me before.
[10:13] <garryF> Hopefully its just a fluke.
[10:14] <stefg> [1] then it'
[10:14] <stefg> [1] then it's time for your first time :-)
[10:15] <garryF> Yep, you were next, or you let the dog eat off the cd.
[10:15] <efox> how do you keep a log of events ? I
[10:15] <Scrippie> fun
[10:16] <efox> im just playing with some stuff, and i want to keep a track of the time a cron event occured.. know how to create a log, just not how to implement a time with it
[10:16] <garryF> One time I did have computer trouble at work. It was a snake that crawled inside. Big kingsnake curled around a drive for warmth.
[10:17] <Madpilot> garryF, are kingsnakes venemous?
[10:17] <garryF> Nope, and are born tame.
[10:17] <rob> does anyone know of a good program to generate md5 hashes with?
[10:17] <garryF> Madpilot nope, and are born tame. Great pets.
[10:17] <ic56> efox: "man cron" reports "cron logs its action to the syslog facility "cron"
[10:17] <RobNyc> !easyubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:17] <RobNyc> !automatix
[10:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[10:17] <Madpilot> garryF, cool - I guess :)
[10:18] <RobNyc> whats better easyubuntu or automatix?
[10:18] <efox> ic56: once again, thanks
[10:18] <garryF> Madpilot Yep, I still have him years later. Called bruiser.
[10:18] <^catalyst> looking for help with nvidia nforce4 spdif output, any clues?
[10:18] <garryF> Easyubuntu, but last I sent someone there days ago, it had a bug and broke thier system.
[10:18] <cydrive> can someone help make a webserver on my ubuntu desktop?
[10:19] <garryF> alsamixer
[10:19] <KenSentMe> !tell cydrive about lamp
[10:19] <KenSentMe> cydrive: chech what ubotu sent you
[10:19] <KenSentMe> *check
[10:19] <dreamcatcher5172> how do i start the config for xorg
[10:19] <^catalyst> garryF: , I've tried there but it doesn't list coax spdif output? I've got working analog sound but thats it
[10:19] <ic56> efox: check your /etc/syslog.conf  Chances are, the cron entry is commented.  Uncomment it and sig your syslogd to cause logging from cron to actually get saved to syslogd to a file.
[10:19] <garryF> I have heard good things about Ruby aka ruby on rails for web developement too.
[10:20] <dreamcatcher5172> forgot the command
[10:20] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, still ? dpkg-reconfigure
[10:20] <dreamcatcher5172> yeah i still cant change my resolution
[10:20] <garryF> ^catalyst yeah, I had to hit the right arrow to scroll horizontally to it.
[10:21] <dreamcatcher5172> sorry if im bothering you guys too much
[10:21] <cydrive> i have apache but how do i i edit the webpage and make it so people can acces my sytem?
[10:21] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, no, just wondering what could possibly go wrong there :(
[10:21] <efox> ic56: is there no way of doing it without goin through that procedure ?
[10:21] <dreamcatcher5172> i know...i feel its something stupid i did.
[10:21] <efox> ic56: im just curious
[10:22] <ic56> efox: only other way is to modify your cron jobs to manually send some output to a file.
[10:22] <^catalyst> garryF: , im getting no sound thru coax sp/dif
[10:22] <KenSentMe> cydrive: the standard webpage is in /var/www/apache2-default
[10:22] <efox> ic56: thats what i have it doing now, it creates the log file, and tells me what was done, but there is no time.
[10:23] <cydrive> ok and when i start apache people just type in my ip and port 80 and they should get my page?
[10:23] <garryF> something about sudo dpkg -config xorg or something like it.
[10:23] <dreamcatcher5172> is there an option to re-initialize the autoconfig that found my graphics settings when i installed?
[10:23] <efox> ic56: id actually prefer doing it this "hardeR" way only cuz im learning as i do it
[10:23] <garryF> ^catalyst I've never tried to use spdf.
[10:23] <dreamcatcher5172> i guess the nvidia drivers dont work for me
[10:24] <ic56> efox: if you *do* modify your crontab, you should check your /etc/logrotate.conf to ensure the new logfile (/var/log/cron if you simply uncomment the default entry) gets cleaned out once in a while, rather than eventually consuming your whole drive
[10:24] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, does it work with nv?
[10:24] <dreamcatcher5172> the nv drivers were fine but when i changed back to them i still could not change my resolution
[10:24] <garryF> !nvidia > dreamcatcher5172
[10:24] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, so the same xorg.conf, with nv, the resolution is correct
[10:24] <dreamcatcher5172> now the nv drivers wont let me change resolutions
[10:24] <garryF> !resolution
[10:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:24] <ic56> efox: so, just add a time stamp to the job.  like this: date>>logfile
[10:25] <garryF> I usually hand edited the xorg to put the new resolutions in. Gotta be careful of type-o's tho.
[10:26] <garryF> dreamcatcher5172: Try downloading and running xrandr from the main repos.
[10:26] <garryF> and run it
[10:27] <efox> ic56: im looking at the logrotate.conf file now, when it says "rotate 4" does that mena after the time period, the older files simply get deleted ?
[10:27] <bilss> hi folks
[10:27] <dreamcatcher5172> ok im trying to reconfigure the xorg settings through consoel
[10:27] <ic56> efox: for a more compact time stamp, try: date +%H:%M.  Learn more about this by reading man date
[10:27] <garryF> !info xrandr
[10:27] <ubotu> xrandr: X Rotation, Reflection and Resize utility. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 8 kB, installed size 60 kB
[10:28] <KenSentMe> cydrive: yes
[10:28] <bilss> what effects would i expect if i disable IVP6 i if ssh and smtp are listening on tcp6
[10:29] <dreamcatcher5172> ok brb
[10:29] <ic56> efox: yes. "rotate 4" means, after 4 rotations, the oldest (fifth) file is deleted.
[10:29] <ic56> efox: man logrotate
[10:30] <efox> ic56: ya im readin it now
[10:30] <ic56> efox: good stuff, efox
[10:31] <efox> theres soo many options
[10:32] <ic56> efox: yes.  having many options makes learning something intimidating at first.  Later, you appreciate the functionality and power.
[10:32] <^catalyst> is there an ALSA channel somewhere?
[10:33] <garryF> Yes ther eis an alsa channel called #alsa with 35 users there now
[10:33] <pvd2006> Hmm, well I can't load the xubuntu bootable cd because it wont mount the root file system.
[10:34] <pvd2006> I was going to reinstall because I just backed up everything
[10:34] <efox> ic56: it does make it intimidating, but im already loving everything this system can do now
[10:34] <dli> pvd2006, just install ubuntu and get the xubuntu-desktop package
[10:34] <efox> instead me letting the OS do what it does, im helpin it along and tellin it what to do and having control over it
[10:35] <efox> plus this terminal is pretty dam cool too
[10:35] <ic56> efox: ah, the power! Mwahahaha! :-)
[10:35] <pvd2006> thats ok, I dont want the extra garbage, ill figure out a way to get it to work, this is the old xubuntu beta 2 dapper flight 7 cd I believe.
[10:35] <ic56> efox: do you know how to search for keywords inside manpages?
[10:35] <Madpilot> efox, the command line is strangely addictive ;)
[10:36] <pvd2006> so Ill download the new one.
[10:36] <ubuntu> metachat.net
[10:36] <pvd2006> actually I think ill get the alternative cd
[10:36] <Madpilot> pvd2006, grab the release version of Xubuntu, for sure - there were a lot of updates from Beta2
[10:36] <algor> help me for wpa mode wap_supplicant
[10:36] <^catalyst> The SP/DIF support in this chipset currently requires a CVS version
[10:36] <^catalyst> of ALSA.
[10:37] <efox> ic56: sadly now, i just press SPACE and skim through until i find what i want
[10:37] <efox> let me see if i can figure it out
[10:37] <efox> Madpilot: yes...yes it is
[10:37] <Madpilot> efox, "man man" is the... man file for man files - quite useful
[10:37] <KenSentMe> !tell algor about wpa
[10:38] <algor> !tell
[10:38] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell
[10:38] <ic56> efox: what pager are you using?  "more" or "less"?  Most likely the latter.  If so, pressing "-V" (2 characters) should report so.
[10:38] <KenSentMe> algor: check the message ubotu sent you
[10:38] <cydrive> how do i find my lan ip in ubuntu?
[10:38] <algor> ty
[10:38] <dli> cydrive, sudo ifconfig -a
[10:39] <KenSentMe> cydrive: open the terminal and type ifconfig
[10:39] <cydrive> thanks
[10:40] <efox> omg
[10:41] <efox> i just learned how to eject my cdrom from terminal
[10:41] <efox> i LOVE this thing
[10:41] <algor> i read it but i have problem, i have ipw2200 wireless
[10:41] <vlt> Hello. When I connect to a server via SSH with "-R 1324:TARGET_IP:80" it only listens to 127.0.0.1:1234. How can I make the remote machine listen to 0.0.0.0:1234?
[10:42] <vlt> Or maybe I can manage it without ssh and just use iptables. So how can I redirect connections from "-i ppp0 -p tcp --dport 1234" to TARGET_IP:80 (and its answers back to the client)?
[10:42] <efox> is the first user (durin the installation) created the root ?
[10:42] <efox> or is "su" the way to get to the root
[10:43] <dli> efox, no, root passwd is disabled in ubuntu by default
[10:43] <Madpilot> efox, just use sudo in front of your commands
[10:43] <efox> i am logged in as the first user created, is that a smart thing to do ?
[10:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell efox about sudo
[10:43] <ic56> efox: no. the first ordinary user created (uid 1000) is the one allowed to sudo to root, by virtue of belonging to the right groups
[10:43] <Madpilot> efox, sure
[10:44] <efox> no no..i kno bout sudo and su...im jus readin off a site (not that credible) about some linux stuff and it said that the first user created has all rights like root and shouldnt be used cuz u can damage your system
[10:44] <nonix4> How do you use 6.06 LTS livecd w/out a mouse? The UI gives absolutely no hints whatsoever on what you should do if you have no mouse.
[10:44] <Madpilot> efox, that's not how Ubuntu is set up, really
[10:44] <KenSentMe> vlt: in /etc/ssh/sshd_conf you can add another line under 'Port 22' like 'Port 1234'. This way the ssh server listens both to 22 and 1234
[10:45] <efox> ok its late...or early..depending on how youlook at it...its 445am...im out for the nite...mornin...watever
[10:45] <efox> thanks for all the help !
[10:45] <ic56> efox: the site makes a valid point.  However, Ubuntu is meant to be used by that single user -- it's meant to be a reasonable simulation of a windoze environment without going all the way.  If you're really paranoid, you can follow the site's advice and make yourself another user that won't have sudo privilege
[10:46] <algor> kensentme, you use wpa wireless?
[10:46] <efox> ic56: nah, im the only one usin this laptop so i dont think its that much of a problem and my desktop is going to be primarily run by myself again
[10:46] <efox> its not a public computer...
[10:46] <efox> cool...thanks guys
[10:46] <KenSentMe> algor: no, but i've tried installing it. It didn't work for my wireless card. Did you check the link to the wiki page ubotu sent you?
[10:46] <ic56> efox: yw!
[10:47] <vlt> KenSentMe: I don't want ssh to listen natively to 1234 but to forward id incoming connects on 1234 to another IP and Port. That's what option "-R" does (but only listens to localhost:1234) ...
[10:47] <KenSentMe> vlt: ah, ok. Didn't read your message right
[10:48] <dooglus> vlt: there's a package called 'simpleproxy' which can do what you want.  you can probably configure iptables to do it too, but I don't know how
[10:49] <algor> kensentme, yes i read it but i have problem, i use knetworkmanager too
[10:49] <vlt> dooglus: Thank you. I'll have a look ...
[10:49] <KenSentMe> algor: sorry, i can't help you with that because i haven't got it working myself
[10:49] <dooglus> vlt: port forwarding xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8888 to 192.168.0.2:80 .
[10:49] <dooglus> /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx --dport 8888 -j DNAT --to 192.168.0.2:80
[10:49] <dooglus> /sbin/iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0 -d 192.168.0.2 --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
[10:50] <algor> know some "guru" of wireless wpa? :)
[10:50] <HorzA-> is ot possible to copy ubuntuserver from harddrive to usb and boot it from the usb stick?
[10:51] <takedown> !automatix
[10:51] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[10:52] <takedown> !easyubuntu
[10:52] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:52] <algor> knesentme know some "guru" of wireless wpa? :)
[10:53] <vlt> dooglus: Cool. Trying ...
[10:53] <jeldert> is there a changelog for the new FCKeditorX?
[10:54] <^catalyst> OK, i have spdif output in XMMS :)
[10:54] <nonix4> Anyone else had a cdrom drive that gets locked in "eject" state after ubuntu ejects the cd on reboot? Only powerdown will fix that :-(
[10:54] <shane_> !easyubuntu
[10:54] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[10:55] <KenSentMe> algor: only thing i can say is try to ask here
[10:57] <algor> kensnt ty
[10:57] <vlt> dooglus: simpleproxy works. Now trying just the iptables lines ...
[10:57] <dooglus> vlt: I just tried it, and can't get it working.
[10:58] <vlt> dooglus: simpleproxy or iptables?
[10:58] <dooglus> vlt: iptables
[10:58] <vlt> dooglus: Maybe the answers don't fins their way ...
[10:58] <vlt> dooglus: find
[10:58] <dooglus> vlt: I copied it from http://www.hackorama.com/network/portfwd.shtml - but maybe that's only for the 2.4 kernel?
[10:58] <ompaul> algor, of you type kens and hit the tab key your client may auto complete the nickname - always be aware that the tab may end up wrong and you need to hit it more than once or include more letters, enjoy it ;-)
[10:59] <vlt> dooglus:No, I don't think there's such a big difference.
[11:00] <KenSentMe> ompaul: i was thinking about saying that, but thank you for reading my mind
[11:00] <dooglus> vlt: maybe it failed like the last paragraph says it will: "The above rules work fine when you access from outside, but if you try to access the same port xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:8888 from an internal machine, it will not work." - I used the local machine to test it
[11:00] <ompaul> KenSentMe, tab is my friend ;-) yours too I take it
[11:00] <vlt> dooglus: Then packets dont run through PREROUTING I think
[11:00] <KenSentMe> yes, ompal ;)
[11:00] <ompaul> hehe, okaayyy
[11:01] <dooglus> vlt: see also: http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/27126.html
[11:02] <^catalyst> guys, is there a global sound output configuration somewhere?
[11:02] <thelsdj> anyone know why a lot of the time the draw time in gnome-terminal is terrible then every once in a while its really fast? i have yet to figure out what effects it :(
[11:03] <ompaul> ^catalyst, yes and no, sound is a bit of a mess what is the exact issue your talking about?
[11:03] <^catalyst> well I need all sound output to go to alsa hw:0,2
[11:03] <^catalyst> so, it'd be pcm output yeah?
[11:05] <ompaul> ^catalyst, all I know how what to do is use kmix or alsamixer to increase the volume - and hope the sound cards are supported, if you get badly stuck there is a guy nick crimsun who is the main genius when it comes to audio, usually about +8-12 hours from now when he gets online - assuming he is not gone on holidays
[11:05] <^catalyst> its all working fine
[11:06] <^catalyst> but gnome/x or whatever isnt pushing its sound to hw:0,2
[11:06] <vlt> dooglus: I tested with just the first line: I connect from A, iptables runs on B and does the forwarding to C. The packets reach C  (I can watch with iptables logging there) and have the source address of A, so I think there's some additional masquerading needed ....
[11:06] <ompaul> ^catalyst, I know less than that about audio, sorry
[11:07] <^catalyst> no worries, thanks for the help anyway
[11:07] <nonix4> Err, how are you supposed to use 6.06 installer? It starts up in such a useless resolution that the buttons supposedly after the language choices don't get shown!
[11:08] <^catalyst> nonix4: , I did not have that issue
[11:08] <YondaII> Does anyone know where aMSN stores the cached display pictures?
[11:09] <vlt> dooglus: It works!!! I added "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o tun1 -j MASQUERADE" and now the packets arriving on C have source IP of B, and B sends C's answers back to A   :-))
[11:10] <nonix4> ^catalyst: well, maybe because you have a monitor that supports DDC. Not so here. Using BNC cabling w/ my monitor.
[11:10] <^catalyst> oh ok
[11:10] <^catalyst> is it fixed freq. ?
[11:11] <nonix4> ... livecd only allows 640x480@60Hz in the "set resolution" thing, the monitor doesn't work well with under 90Hz so the picture looks bad
[11:11] <^catalyst> you could mash up the livecd xconfig couldn't you?
[11:11] <^catalyst> that'd let you have a different resolution
[11:12] <nonix4> ^catalyst: yup... I know ctrl-alt-f1, but would "normal" users know how to do that? :-)
[11:12] <^catalyst> normal users have DDC monitors :)
[11:14] <nonix4> ^catalyst: nowadays, yes :-)
[11:15] <nonix4> ^catalyst: normal users aren't crazy enough to dabble with lot of the features I've been using recently either - evms and all that fun seems to have bugs that'd get fixed if somebody actually used those things enough to report bugs :-)
[11:16] <YondaII> Where are the program folders located, eg. in windows they're @ C:\Program Files\App   ... in Ubuntu whats the equivilant?
[11:17] <wonea> how do install libgii0, going round in dependency circles!
[11:19] <KenSentMe> YondaII: /usr/share mostly i think
[11:19] <KenSentMe> YondaII: but their config files are in /etc
[11:19] <YondaII> KenSentMe, cheers
[11:22] <^catalyst> shit, how do I restart ALSA again ?>
[11:22] <ompaul> YondaII, it depends, /bin /usr/bin /usr/sbin/ /sbin /usr/local/bin /usr/local/sbin and then there is the X stuff what are you trying to install?
[11:23] <ompaul> ^catalyst, less language, we are aiming at a G rating here, and killall alsa09
[11:23] <^catalyst> but i want it to restart?
[11:24] <ompaul> ^catalyst, it starts when you run an app that wants it
[11:24] <^catalyst> oh cool
[11:24] <YondaII> ompaul, oh im not trying to install anything...im trying to find the cached image folder for aMSN...nothing too important ;) but ill have a poke around in those folders thanks
[11:25] <ompaul> YondaII, then /usr/share - I would build the locate db >> sudo updatedb<< and then run >>locate amsn <<
[11:25] <YondaII> ompaul, thanks
[11:26] <lxIT> Hello All
[11:32] <ompaul> Hawk|-, when you leave the keyboard much better to do /away AFK and then if someone uses your nick they get told your afk and your not telling 666 people that your afk ;-)
[11:33] <Healot> damien|afk
[11:34] <Hawk|-> hmm
[11:34] <Nameeater> does anyone know how I can stop applications blinking in the current desktop when they are infact on another desktop?
[11:34] <Hawk|-> ompaul, why is it better?
[11:34] <thelsdj> so does anyone know whats up with the draw time on gnome terminal?
[11:34] <Nameeater> in the application bar at the bottom
[11:35] <thelsdj> takes like a second to write a screen full of text sometimes
[11:35] <ompaul> Hawk|-, your not creating channel noise
[11:35] <Scrippie> sup?
[11:36] <Hawk|-> ompaul ok, that makes sense
[11:36] <ompaul> Hawk|-, when you add up everyone doing it - it is something I ask people to do ;-)
[11:36] <Scrippie> fun
[11:37] <Hawk|-> mhh try pls ompaul
[11:38] <Hawk|-> ompaul, how to disable the away?
[11:39] <^catalyst> ffs
[11:39] <^catalyst> automake 1.5 ? how do i get it, apt-get is only installing 1.4, 1.5+ are listed but have no install candidate?
[11:40] <ompaul> Hawk|-, depends on the client - in xchat it is settings preferences general announce away messages a tick box - not on by default
[11:41] <Hawk|-> oh ok, did u get my message?
[11:41] <algor> someone have ipw2200 wireless card?
[11:41] <heatxsink> algor:  yup
[11:42] <heatxsink> whatz up?
[11:42] <Gorlist> Hi, whats a good ftp manager for ubuntu ?
[11:42] <MatthewV> Gorlist, nautilus will work, otherwise give gFTP a try
[11:43] <Hawk|-> mhh ok, autodisable away is possible 
[11:43] <Gorlist> thanks,
[11:45] <ompaul> Hawk|-, no
[11:45] <^catalyst> Package automake1.6 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[11:45] <^catalyst> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[11:45] <^catalyst> is only available from another source
[11:45] <^catalyst> E: Package automake1.6 has no installation candidate
[11:45] <ompaul> !paste
[11:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:45] <Frogzoo> anyone notice that fglrx doesn't set low power mode during boot up when on battery?
[11:45] <ompaul> ^catalyst, two lines - I have asked someone else no reply yet
[11:45] <^catalyst> oh sorry, my bad.
[11:46] <^catalyst> thats a good idea that pastebin!
[11:47] <chetan> hi all. i am trying to install a vpn client for my unis wireless network. whilst installing it is asking me for the "Directory containing linux kernel source code". can someone please help?
[11:48] <Healot> get the kernel header/kernel source? btw you're compiling?
[11:48] <fernando> Hi, I am trying to get the CS4235 sound card working againg after the upgrade fro Breeze to Dapper. Can anyboy help?
[11:49] <chetan> healot - i am not sure it just asks for  "Directory containing linux kernel source code"
[11:49] <Healot> chetan: I can't be sure if you are not
[11:50] <stefg> !sound
[11:50] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[11:50] <chetan> healot - i am installing the program from a tar.gz file from the terminal window
[11:50] <CardinalRC> Good morning to you all I am new here and all of this
[11:51] <stefg> so welcome
[11:51] <fernando> ubotu, I have already set alsa in the mm window. I am going to look at the address you pointed.
[11:51] <ubotu> I know nothing about I have already set alsa in the mm window. I am going to look at the address you pointed.
[11:51] <Milky_> Hi, I have a problem with NWN. When I try to create a new character on the expansions, I get an error message saying I have "unsufficient hard disk space", however, I have many,mnya GBs left. Apparently, this is an error that many have had, but after following the instructions on the forums, I still could not get it to work. Anyone had this problem?
[11:51] <CardinalRC> thank you
[11:52] <nauj27> hi
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> !ntfs
[11:53] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> !linux-ntfs
[11:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-ntfs
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> i want to isntall the latest ntfsprogs
[11:53] <MetaMorfoziS> is tehre any howto?
[11:54] <chetan> healot - it says "You will require a copy of your current kernel headers to be installed. " in the instruction
[11:55] <Frogzoo> dapper has a quirk with running fglrx from laptop - when booting off batter, the powerstate never gets set - maybe what's needed is an acpi message to trigger fglrx-powermode.sh after the user has logged in
[11:56] <Healot> chetan: install kernel headers then
[11:56] <Healot> !linux-headers
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about linux-headers
[11:56] <Healot> !info linux-headers
[11:56] <ubotu> Package linux-headers does not exist in dapper
[11:56] <chetan> healot - how do i do that?
[11:56] <Healot> !info linux-386-headers
[11:56] <ubotu> Package linux-386-headers does not exist in dapper
[11:56] <Frogzoo> !anything
[11:56] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[11:56] <Healot> !find linux-386
[11:56] <ubotu> Found: linux-386
[11:56] <Healot> !find headers
[11:56] <ubotu> Found: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686 (and 33 others)
[11:57] <hunt0r> !w32codecs
[11:57] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[11:58] <fernando> the address you indicate for sound troubleshooting asks to send the command lspnp that does not exist
[11:59] <Nameeater> the pnpbios-tools package may have it
[11:59] <narfmaster> anyone else play wormux?
[12:00] <narfmaster> it seems like the repo version leaks a ton of memory
[12:01] <narfmaster> i just compiled the 0.7.2 version, and it's a lot more stable in that respect
[12:01] <earHertz> apt-get is driving me up the wall. What do I need to do to install libgtk?
[12:02] <Nameeater> well the repo version is 0.7.1
[12:02] <chetan> healot - i tried what u said but i keep getting for both !linux & !help even not found. i just need to find the directory where the kernel is located i think
[12:02] <Madpilot> !info libgtk
[12:02] <ubotu> Package libgtk does not exist in dapper
[12:02] <Adium> earHertz, sudo apt-get install libgtk2-dev <---try it
[12:02] <Nameeater> earHertz: which libgtk?
[12:02] <Healot> linux-headers-386 << for 386 kernel
[12:02] <Nameeater> or that :)
[12:02] <Healot> linux-headers-686 << for 686 kernel
[12:02] <earHertz> well, gdb wnats 1.2, but I'll take what I can get.
[12:03] <stgraber> Anyone here know if that's possible to have a different MAC address for eth0:0 than eth0 ? The idea is to assign the four ips address that my provider gave me but on only one physical interface. (I receive the ip address by DHCP)
[12:03] <narfmaster> Nameeater, i thought it was "0.7-1"
[12:03] <haakonn_> how can i determine my laptop's current CPU frequency?
[12:03] <chetan> Healot - i have daper 6.06 installed so which kernel is mine?
[12:03] <Healot> chetan: install either one of those packages using you favorite installer
[12:03] <Nameeater> narfmaster: whatever, I ment that :P
[12:03] <windshear> hi
[12:03] <narfmaster> heh :)
[12:03] <earHertz> Clearly I'm not understanding apt-get; how is it you ( Adium ) know that I need 2-dev?
[12:03] <Healot> uname -r chetan, but default it's linux-386
[12:03] <windshear> i have a problem with my wlan
[12:03] <windshear> after i updated my sytem + kernel it does not work any more
[12:03] <windshear> when i load the backup kernel it works
[12:03] <windshear> it is a restricted module that is necessary to make it work
[12:03] <windshear> how can i select what modules get loaded during boot
[12:03] <DarkMageZ> narfmaster, it is noted in the offical changelogs that they fixed some memory leaks between version 0.7.1 & 0.7.2
[12:03] <Adium> chetan, uname -r in a terminal
[12:03] <earHertz> How do I tell apt-get I just want the lastest libgtk there is??
[12:04] <narfmaster> thanks, DarkMageZ that explains it
[12:04] <Madpilot> earHertz, it'll install the latest that's in Ubuntu repos
[12:04] <Adium> earHertz, open a terminal, then type man apt after that type sudo apt-get install libgtk2-dev
[12:04] <chetan> Healot - i got 2.6.15-25-386
[12:04] <Nameeater> is that going to help him if gdb want 1.2?
[12:05] <Adium> that will install it for you
[12:05] <Healot> so it's 386, then install linux-headers-386 then///
[12:05] <earHertz> Madpilot: when I do s sudo apt-get install libgtk, it just tells me it can't find that package
[12:05] <Nameeater> do the command Adium said
[12:05] <Adium> earHertz, try the other one i gave you
[12:05] <windshear> anyone can help me with my problem about wlan driver?
[12:05] <earHertz> am I just supposed to know the curent version is 2?
[12:05] <Madpilot> earHertz, use Synaptic's handy search button
[12:06] <earHertz> Adium: No, I understand the answer to this problem. I want a general undertstanding. My biggest problem with linux right now is dependencies and trying to use apt-get, and it's really becoming a deal killer
[12:06] <Madpilot> looks like you want "libgtk1.2" - the number is almost always part of the package name
[12:07] <Madpilot> earHertz, if you've got a GUI, use Synaptic - it's far easier than farting around with apt-get trying to guess package names
[12:07] <earHertz> Yeah, but if I try to apt-get libgtk-1.2, it tell sme no package. Is my apt-get misconfigured?
[12:07] <Adium> apt will install all dependencies for you :), the best way to learn apt is open a terminal and man apt
[12:07] <Cydonia> hi, does anyone here know anything about running Xen in ubuntu dapper?
[12:07] <S1ixx> hey
[12:07] <Madpilot> earHertz, leave the dash out - you're misspelling the name
[12:07] <Hawk|-> hi, someone got some experience with usb headset? I am not able to get it working..
[12:08] <Madpilot> there's also a libgtk2.0-0 - not sure which one you actually want...
[12:08] <earHertz> Adium: no, I realize it will install dependie sof teh ionstalling package.
[12:08] <S1ixx> how do i login as root ?
[12:08] <S1ixx> from the login screen
[12:08] <Cydonia> slixx: sudo su
[12:08] <Adium> earHertz, i dont follow the problem then?
[12:08] <S1ixx> from the login screen though
[12:08] <llama32> what's the channel for linux kernel/lowish level linux specific programming?
[12:08] <chetan> Healot - once i have it installed what do i do?
[12:08] <S1ixx> i done sudo passwd
[12:09] <earHertz> ubuntu-1:/home/ipodlinux/tools/armemu$ sudo apt-get install libgtk
[12:09] <earHertz> Reading package lists... Done
[12:09] <earHertz> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:09] <earHertz> E: Couldn't find package libgtk
[12:09] <Hawk|-> got a dmesg for my usb device http://pastebin.de/8376
[12:09] <Healot> then, configure the directory, chetan
[12:09] <Adium> open the terminal and type this (correct package) sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[12:09] <S1ixx> now i want to login when the login screen is there
[12:09] <chetan> healot- sorry i am very new to this....how do i do that?
[12:09] <Healot> it should be in /usr/src/linux* chetan
[12:09] <earHertz> Adium: ok, but how do I know that I need to add the 2.0-dev?
[12:09] <Madpilot> S1ixx, why would you want to log in as root in the GUI? That's not recommended or safe...
[12:09] <S1ixx> i know its not reccomended
[12:10] <earHertz> Other than by asking you?
[12:10] <Adium> you dont need to know, unless your compiling an application that requires the gtk headers
[12:10] <Adium> in which case thats the package youll want
[12:10] <earHertz> why doesn't apt-get tell me there's no libgtk, but offer me libgtk2.90-dev?
[12:10] <nekostar> anyone here actually know what shorten or shn codec is ?
[12:10] <nekostar> and if so what i can do to get ubuntu/xmms to play it ?
[12:10] <Cydonia> Slixx: CTRL + ALT + F3, login, then type 'sudo su'
[12:11] <Adium> because theres other packages with "libgtk" and it dont know which you want
[12:11] <S1ixx> ok
[12:11] <Adium> best way is to use synaptic :)
[12:11] <Adium> till your happy
[12:11] <Cydonia> Slixx: enter your password
[12:11] <nekostar> !paste
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:11] <earHertz> Ok, ok, what's synaptic?
[12:11] <nekostar> synaptic is a package manager
[12:11] <Adium> its an easy to use frontend to apt
[12:11] <nekostar> very nice very smart
[12:11] <chetan> healot - thanks heaps
[12:12] <earHertz> ah, ok
[12:12] <nekostar> its more than just a front end to apt :)
[12:12] <earHertz> So the answer is, I was using the wrong thing
[12:12] <Cydonia> Slixx: then 'passwd' to create a password and a real root user
[12:12] <gore_> me likey enlightenment
[12:12] <nekostar> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16932 <<--- my ./configure output :/ i need a c++ compiler it seems
[12:13] <Adium> earHertz, no theres more then one way thats all apt is the prefered way for most experienced users
[12:13] <earHertz> I'm  sorry, it's just that it seems anytime I want to do something, I have to guess what package names to give to apt-get
[12:13] <Adium> use synaptic :)
[12:13] <gore_> damn I wish enlightenment worked better with gnome
[12:13] <earHertz> right, hgot ya
[12:13] <S1ixx> i have already made a root account
[12:13] <Cydonia> Slixx: you can then go back to X with ctrl + alt + F7, and login as root through gdm
[12:13] <S1ixx> i done sudo passwd
[12:14] <Madpilot> S1ixx, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo has info on logging in as root - and why it's a really bad idea...
[12:14] <S1ixx> ok :)
[12:14] <Cydonia> does anybody here know anything about running Xen in ubuntu dapper?
[12:15] <Healot> I run Zen as part of my life,
[12:15] <Healot> ohm
[12:15] <gore_> anyone use enlightenment
[12:16] <Cydonia> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine ?
[12:16] <nekostar> gore_, ive used it y
[12:16] <Cydonia> I want to set it up to tunnel all IP traffic through the virtual machine
[12:16] <Cydonia> can anyone help?
[12:17] <Cydonia> please?
[12:17] <gore_> just wondering how you liked it
[12:17] <earHertz> Oh, I install libgtk2.0-dev. But gdb still wants libgtk-1.2.so
[12:17] <gore_> I'm thinking metacity is the way to go
[12:17] <gore_> it looks good but I think I'm going to have some problems
[12:17] <S1ixx> i done CTRL+ALT+F3 and done Passwd, set the passwd , and still cant login as root !
[12:17] <A[D] minS> tar xfz amsn_dev.tar.gz
[12:17] <A[D] minS> tar: msn/debian: time stamp 2006-07-01 10:20:08 is 1198972 s in the future
[12:17] <A[D] minS> tar: msn/amsncore.tcl: time stamp 2006-06-28 20:21:00 is 975824 s in the future
[12:17] <Adium> earHertz, ok so sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-dev try that see what happens :)
[12:17] <A[D] minS> what is dat plz ?
[12:17] <S1ixx> it says i cant login as root from that screen
[12:18] <Frogzoo> anyone know how to generate an acpi event - in this instance, when a user has completed gnome login?
[12:18] <Adium> earHertz, what are you trying to install?
[12:18] <Madpilot> S1ixx, GDM - the login screen - is set up to prevent root login by default. You can override that somewhere, if you really feel you want to...
[12:18] <earHertz> Adium: I'm trying to run the gdb for the arm-elf toolchain
[12:18] <Frogzoo> !root > S1ixx
[12:19] <Adium> earHertz, sorry i dont know what that is?
[12:19] <earHertz> Adium: teh Gnu debugger for ARM machines (like ipods)
[12:19] <Cydonia> gnome debugger?
[12:19] <earHertz> Adium: ok, apt-get for libgtk1.2-dev worked, thanks
[12:20] <Adium> yw
[12:21] <Cydonia> I want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help?
[12:21] <ubuntu> kandai??
[12:21] <earHertz> I suppose part ofr my problem is this: when I used cygwin, I installed ALL packages
[12:21] <earHertz> is there a way I can just INSTALL every goddamn package in ubuntu?
[12:21] <Healot> yeah/// one by one?
[12:22] <Adium> dunno, never tryed lol
[12:22] <nekostar> earHertz, no a lot of em conflict
[12:22] <Madpilot> earHertz, all 18,000+ of them?
[12:22] <Healot> earHertz: use debmirror
[12:22] <S1ixx> where do you override the bit to enable logging in as root ?
[12:22] <Healot> and make sure you have more then 12 GB of free pace
[12:22] <ubuntu> mnakoronniki ebanue/// za chto xoxolov sdelali??
[12:22] <nekostar> Healot, that only gives you a local repository i think
[12:22] <earHertz> nekostar: yeah, I figured.
[12:22] <nekostar> earHertz, but you can sure as hell try :P
[12:22] <Healot> nekostar: local, and then you can install whatever you want
[12:22] <nekostar> like he said one by one
[12:22] <earHertz> It's just damned frustrating that I seem to spend more time apt-getting than beiing productive
[12:22] <nekostar> and then you will have a system thats broken :P
[12:23] <Healot> possible but crazy idea :-
[12:23] <ubuntu> fucking itali///its xoxol
[12:23] <earHertz> Healot: I set up ubunto with 20GB
[12:23] <nekostar> then imagine all the things you might wanna do
[12:23] <narfmaster> Slixx, in the System > Admin > Login Window
[12:23] <nekostar> and install anything you can google about for just that
[12:23] <nekostar> :)
[12:23] <Healot> earHertz: so you can make a good local repos
[12:23] <Healot> and archive it on a tape or something...
[12:23] <nekostar> though a local mirror is not a bad idea tbh
[12:23] <ubuntu> xoxolu forever
[12:24] <S1ixx> thanks narfmaster
[12:24] <Seveas> mornin'
[12:24] <narfmaster> you're welcome
[12:24] <S1ixx> :)
[12:24] <earHertz> Healot: not a bad iddea
[12:24] <Madpilot> hi Seveas - nothing like a little bannination to start the day ;)
[12:25] <Adium> lol
[12:25] <Seveas> Madpilot, it was just a kick
[12:25] <Cydonia> I want to set Xen up to tunnel all IP traffic through a virtual linux machine, can anyone help? please, pretty please? :P
[12:25] <Seveas> still warming up
[12:25] <Madpilot> heh
[12:25] <Adium> rofl
[12:25] <Healot> earHertz: what's your connection bandwidth?
[12:25] <earHertz> cable
[12:25] <Healot> cool... then it's like 12-14 hours of downloading...
[12:26] <earHertz> I just like having everything, so I don't have to look for it
[12:26] <Healot> never experiment a local mirror yet... except for debian before...
[12:27] <Lynoure> earHertz: Good luck. Remember to document it online somewhere. It's quite an interesting goal and I wonder how you are going to get over the conflicting packages :)
[12:27] <gore_> god I want gnome too look good
[12:28] <gore_> but I just cna't manage to have the gdesklets to work out well along side it
[12:28] <earHertz> Lynoure: yeah, I'm sure you're right
[12:28] <gore_> has anyone fooled around with gdesklets? specifically the starterbar
[12:28] <rem_> Hey...my sda drive (usb mem stick) went away after distupgrade...how can I get it back .. ? I guess modprobe the module...but which module ... ?
[12:29] <KenSentMe> I'm looking for a person on irc.freenode.org. Is there a way to see in which channel he or she is? It's about Ubuntu, but he's not in this channel
[12:30] <dooglus> KenSentMe: /whois nick
[12:30] <Adium> .../whois nick
[12:30] <gore_> yah if you know their nick just /msg nick
[12:30] <dooglus> must be registered for /msg to work
[12:30] <KenSentMe> dooglus: thanks
[12:30] <gore_> oh I hate those servers
[12:31] <gore_> such a severe pain in the ass
[12:31] <dooglus> gore_: I think you must be doing something wrong if it's hurting your bottom
[12:32] <gore_> you register, wait for the email, confirm it, get on the server.  never return to the server for months then need to get on again, forgot your password.. rinse and repeat
[12:32] <rem_> ..I guess its usb-storage ..which is loaded but still no sda drive .. (
[12:32] <dooglus> no, just register.  no email or confirmation required
[12:32] <Madpilot> gore_, Freenode doesn't need an email to register
[12:32] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell gore_ about register
[12:32] <dooglus> /msg nickserv register pa$$word
[12:33] <narfmaster> you need an email for vhost
[12:33] <gore_> wait are we on freenode?
[12:33] <dooglus> duh
[12:33] <Madpilot> gore_, we are
[12:33] <gore_> haha
[12:33] <gore_> xchat in ubuntu automatically joins me to this channel, and connects me to this server
[12:33] <gore_> plus I only really go on irc for problems
[12:33] <narfmaster> Ubuntu Servers = FreeNode
[12:33] <gore_> and maybe answering an easy one here or there
[12:34] <Frogzoo> any way to get access to extended unicode keys, like  & , from the standard keyboard layout, without switching to dead keys?
[12:34] <Adium> I nearly live on irc on six servers, 12 channels incl my own server
[12:35] <gore_> Adium, you're an addict =P
[12:35] <Adium> ;p
[12:35] <gore_> I used to irc a ton
[12:35] <gore_> annnyways anyone familiar with startbar gdesklet?
[12:37] <weakwire> hi how can i make an application to start up with gnome? ? help please
[12:37] <earHertz> yes!
[12:37] <earHertz> Thanks for your help, Adium & Healot
[12:37] <chetan> Healot - sorry to bother u again but everytime i try to install the client in the terminal i get "Making module
[12:37] <chetan> ./driver_build.sh: line 50: make: command not foundFailed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko"."
[12:37] <Adium> yw earHertz
[12:37] <Seveas> weakwire, system  preferences  session  add it to startup programs
[12:37] <dooglus> weakwire: ~/.gnomerc gets run when you start gnome; and ~/.xprofile gets run when you use gdm to log in; pick either of them
[12:38] <weakwire> thank you both
[12:38] <Healot> chetan: you are compiling then
[12:38] <Healot> !info build-essential
[12:38] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[12:38] <Healot> install build-essential to get your compiler and make tool, chetan
[12:40] <gore_> yah why doesn't gnome come with essential stuff to compile source files
[12:40] <gore_> I would think that would be a must by default
[12:40] <Seveas> gore_, because 90+% of the people never compile
[12:40] <Healot> gore_: ubuntu's policy?
[12:41] <Adium> Has any one got any ideas how to play a .mng mplayer dont seem to know what todo with it
[12:41] <dooglus>  gore_ ubuntu is a desktop system for regular users.  compiling stuff isn't something most people will ever want to do
[12:41] <Healot> oh i remember the popularity-contest
[12:41] <gore_> make | make install | make clean
[12:41] <gore_> =P
[12:41] <gore_> simple even for a newby
[12:41] <Healot> yeah
[12:41] <dooglus> gore_: better to use '&&' instead of '|' there
[12:41] <Adium> yea till they get an error ;p] 
[12:41] <Healot> but the toolchain isn't there bydefault
[12:41] <Adium> ;p *
[12:41] <gore_> dooglus, I'd just do them on seperate lines
[12:42] <dsas> gore_: Better to also use checkinstall rather than make install
[12:42] <gore_> never heard of that
[12:42] <gore_> I've been using linux off and on for years
[12:42] <Seveas> see, not that easy to compile properly...
[12:42] <gore_> I've found just recently through ubuntu that I can switch off winxp almost completely
[12:42] <dooglus> gore_: "sudo checkinstall" is nice - it does a 'make install' while watching what gets installed, then makes a package from the results.  so you can undo it, or share the package
[12:43] <gore_> ooo I like that
[12:43] <dooglus> gore_: recent versions have been buggy in ubuntu, but there's a new maintainer now, so hopefully it'll get sorted out soon
[12:44] <gore_> oh I have a question regarding updatedb
[12:44] <dooglus> shoot
[12:44] <gore_> is there a way to make it ignore a drive completely
[12:44] <dooglus> gore_: sure
[12:44] <gore_> I dont want to umount it
[12:44] <dooglus> please wait while I RTFM for you ;)
[12:44] <gore_> haha sorry
[12:44] <Adium> lol
[12:44] <Frogzoo> gore_:  /etc/updatedb.conf
[12:45] <dibblego> what do I need in /etc/apt/sources.list to get xmms-mp4?
[12:45] <chetan> Healot - after installing build-essential i get this "WARNING: Symbol version dump /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-25/Module.symvers
[12:45] <chetan>            is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions."
[12:45] <Madpilot> !info xmms-mp4
[12:45] <ubotu> xmms-mp4: a mp4/aac audio player for xmms. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 27 kB, installed size 128 kB
[12:45] <Madpilot> dibblego, multiverse
[12:45] <dooglus> interesting that the updatedb man page doesn't mention updatedb.conf
[12:45] <chetan> Healot - after i run the complier
[12:45] <dibblego> Madpilot, I'm sure I have that
[12:46] <gore_> oh sweet
[12:46] <gore_> it already excludes my mounted drives
[12:46] <gore_> well the whole /media folder
[12:46] <gore_> =] 
[12:46] <Healot> chetan: does it stop you from compiling?
[12:46] <Madpilot> dibblego, double check - sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list (or $text-editor-of-your-choice) ;)
[12:47] <dibblego> actually, I only have deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[12:47] <dibblego> which line is multiverse?
[12:47] <chetan> Healot - no i just comes up with a list of errors saying in the end "Failed to make module "cisco_ipsec.ko"."
[12:47] <Madpilot> dibblego, you need multiverse on any line that has universe in it, basically, not just the backports
[12:48] <robod> hello
[12:48] <dibblego> deb http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[12:48] <fortran01> how much space does xubuntu take with the default install?
[12:49] <dragos> hello
[12:50] <Madpilot> dibblego, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 for a full sources.list
[12:50] <dibblego> ok ta
[12:50] <gore_> about 50 people in #gnome but noone responds
[12:50] <gore_> ugh
[12:50] <dragos> ppls..how can I listen to .mp3 files on my ubuntu
[12:50] <dibblego> what's the difference between universe and multiverse?
[12:50] <dragos> I've just installed
[12:50] <dibblego> dragos, I use xmms
[12:51] <dragos> and I can listen only wav
[12:51] <dragos> thanks
[12:51] <dragos> I tryed with amarok and juk
[12:52] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell dragos about mp3
[12:52] <snoops> isn't amarok just awesome dragos? :)
[12:52] <Madpilot> dragos, see the PM you just got from ubotu
[12:52] <krinns> hi all
[12:53] <snoops> I installed 64bit ubuntu, and because of the shortcomings I would like to use the 32bit version for awhile.. is there a way to switch down to that while retaining my settings?
[12:53] <Schalke1> i need rhythmbox 0.9.5, but the version in the repos is 0.9.3. how can I get 0.9.5 and is there a way to add it to the repos for everyone else?
[12:53] <dragos> Madpilot, how can I switch between dialog chats in BitchX?:D
[12:53] <Frogzoo> !amarok > dragos
[12:53] <Frogzoo> !restricted > dragos
[12:53] <Madpilot> dragos, no idea - install XChat instead :)
[12:53] <dragos> okey:)
[12:54] <dibblego> Madpilot, cheers, xmms-mp4 is working
[12:54] <Madpilot> dragos, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats is the URL you want, anyway
[12:54] <dragos> yeap, thanks
[12:54] <dragos> I got the info
[12:54] <dragos> I'll bookmark those
[12:55] <onispawn> anyone have a suggestion on a way to record the screen to make demos?
[12:55] <snoops> onispawn xvidcap
[12:55] <snoops> you can also use vlc to record the screen
[12:56] <onispawn> snoops: thanks
[12:56] <Frogzoo> onispawn: -> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20screen%20movie
[12:56] <johlin> I hate the volume control in gnome. For me, when I'm listening in Rhytmbox, when it's at 100% the sound just sounds bad, lacks midrange and treble and when it's at 0% there is still sound, just a little lower and the quality is better. Why is that?
[12:57] <Madpilot> night, all
[12:58] <Pitersburgs> johlin: set main sound for GNOME to 80%, and regulate then RM volume as you want
[12:58] <Pitersburgs> 80% of PCM volume is most optimal volume, also in Windows
[12:59] <Pitersburgs> RB volume is mostly for just making things a relatively louder or vice versa
[12:59] <johlin> Pitersburgs: Yeah I know, but it's annoying when I have other applications open with sound (movie player for example)
[12:59] <johlin> I want it to control the main volume, as it's supposed to
[12:59] <Pitersburgs> nop
[12:59] <Pitersburgs> main volume is main volume
[01:00] <Pitersburgs> each of apps has it's own volume
[01:00] <Pitersburgs> Totem, RB, mplayer, etc.
[01:00] <Pitersburgs> it is relative to main volume
[01:00] <boobek> hi
[01:00] <Pitersburgs> so you can mix sources
[01:00] <johlin> So what does the gnome volume control do?
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> johlin: regulates main volume and other volumes of sound card
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> RB volume regulator regulates *RB* volume, not main
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> so
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> you for example
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> when you get call from Skype
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> you can tune down RB
[01:01] <Pitersburgs> but system volume will stay the same
[01:01] <johlin> But when I press the volume buttons on my keyboard, that should be the main volume right?
[01:02] <uep> er... accident heh
[01:03] <Pitersburgs> johlin: yes
[01:04] <johlin> Pitersburgs: but it doesn't, when it's at 0% I can still hear rhytmbox clearly (even though the sound quality sucks)
[01:05] <Pitersburgs> johlin: wait a sec...you use your laptop/desktop keyboard keys to tune main volume up/down.
[01:05] <Pitersburgs> first of all, check it is it really main volume
[01:05] <Frogzoo> johlin: as far as I can tell, it's a bug...
[01:05] <dragos> heh..great!..xmms is quite close as functionality to winamp
[01:05] <dragos> finaly something familiar:D
[01:05] <snoops> uhh but xmms is shocking! The dialogs.. ugh
[01:05] <Frogzoo> dragos: but amarok is much nicer
[01:06] <dragos> I have amarok, but I can't play .mp3 files
[01:06] <Pitersburgs> it is still a bloody media player, what there is so nicer/uglier
[01:06] <Pitersburgs> :)
[01:06] <Frogzoo> dragos: read the pms you got
[01:06] <johlin> Pitersburgs: How do I check? Those buttons are selected as volume up/down in gnome keyboard shortcut settings, is that all?
[01:06] <dragos> okey
[01:06] <snoops> !restricted > dragos
[01:06] <johlin> Frogzoo: so should I report it somewhere?
[01:06] <uep> google's summer of code is working on an xmms2... maybe that'll be the ticket
[01:06] <Frogzoo> johlin: I think the devs know already ;)
[01:06] <Pitersburgs> johlin: take a look upper corner right, where is that sound volume applet
[01:06] <snoops> dragos you'll need to get those restricted formats installed to use them in amarok
[01:06] <Pitersburgs> click a right button on it
[01:06] <Pitersburgs> get Prefernces
[01:07] <Pitersburgs> and check out what is regulated by main volume
[01:07] <Laibsch> I would like to have a remote printer shared via cups discovery set as default printer.  Trying to configure it via the web interface redirects me from the remote IP (non-SSL) to the hostname (SSL).  The latter page is never loaded and times out eventually.
[01:07] <Laibsch> How can I set the remote printer as default.  What is wrong in the configs?
[01:07] <Pitersburgs> uep: xmms2 almost is the same as bmp, which is already aviable
[01:07] <Frogzoo> Pitersburgs: there's the user interface, sound quality ...
[01:07] <johlin> Pitersburgs: yes, main volume was selected, and my soundcard (SB Live, ALSA) was selected.
[01:07] <gore_> ok check this weird problem, when I have no audio programs open, and I crank my sound to the max, my its making a bass sound
[01:08] <Laibsch> Pitersburgs: I think you are not correct.  The code base is totally different, the concept is too.
[01:08] <Frogzoo> gore_: AC hum
[01:08] <gore_> you think?
[01:08] <gore_> should I put one of those magnet things on it?
[01:09] <reiki> gore_: a ferrite?
[01:09] <Frogzoo> gore_: only thing that will help is shielding & better audio gear
[01:09] <gore_> yah the cable is pretty old
[01:09] <gore_> and so is the computer
[01:09] <reiki> don't crank to max with nothing playing
[01:09] <Frogzoo> gore_: plus the PSU leaks AC as well
[01:10] <reiki> if I crank to max I'll rattle all the harware out of my desk :)
[01:10] <snoops> I installed 64bit ubuntu, and because of the shortcomings I would like to use the 32bit version for awhile.. is there a way to switch down to that while retaining my settings?
[01:10] <gore_> psu?
[01:10] <gore_> powersupply?
[01:10] <Frogzoo> power supply unit
[01:10] <reiki> yes
[01:11] <Laibsch> I think I found the solution for my remote printing problem.  Seems to be a bug in CUPS discovered recently.  http://www.cups.org/str.php?L1788+P0+S-2+C0+I0+E0+Qremote
[01:11] <reiki> anyone using Asus P5LD2 Pro or Gigabyte GA-8I945P Pro I'd like to talk off-topic please
[01:12] <RQ> hi.
[01:12] <RQ> so what do i do if dapper doesn't print to an USB printer?
[01:13] <RQ> anyone alive?
[01:13] <uep> give it a second ;-)
[01:13] <reiki> yup... I'm alive today
[01:13] <gore_> yah reiki is
[01:14] <dragos> E: Package gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg has no installation candidate
[01:14] <gore_> even though he's violated
[01:14] <snoops> so uhh gosh, no one knows? :(
[01:14] <seth1248> Could anyone help me troubleshoot nfs ? I keep getting permission denied error.
[01:14] <RQ> :)
[01:14] <reiki> snoops: I don't know for sure, but I think you can not downgrade as you describe
[01:14] <gore_> I doubt it snoops, but I'm no expert
[01:15] <gore_> snoops I'd recommend just saving your cfg files and such
[01:15] <jrib> !info gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[01:15] <ubotu> gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg: FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.10.1-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1316 kB, installed size 3176 kB
[01:15] <RQ> reiki, so considering that you're alive, have you heard of people having trouble printing to USB printers?
[01:15] <snoops> I guess I could just take my user profile and a few files from /etc but still.. not fun
[01:15] <jrib> dragos: have you enabled the universe repository?
[01:15] <reiki> RQ: you question is a bit vague. Could be as simple as "plug it in" . We have no idea what you've got, what errors (if any)... please elaborate
[01:16] <RQ> reiki, it's plugged in, it's detected, it doesn't print the job
[01:16] <Stardog> How the H....LL am i supposed to install the ATI drivers on my dapper drake? the official how to doesn't work. neither method 1 nor method 2
[01:16] <RQ> it says "printing" though
[01:16] <reiki> RQ: is the job in the que?
[01:16] <Kristan_uk2> hi all i just received my ubuntu cd in the post
[01:16] <gore_> Stardog, I'm pretty sure there is a good write up on the ubuntu forums
[01:16] <RQ> reiki, it was until i canceled it
[01:17] <gore_> I think I might order the ubuntu cd just so I can get an official copy
[01:17] <gore_> =d
[01:17] <reiki> !printing
[01:17] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[01:17] <Kristan_uk2> i can run ubuntu from the cd however when i try to install, after selecting language it freezes and does nothing
[01:17] <sloncho> hi. someone using dapper/mplayer/cyrillic (cp1251) subs?
[01:18] <RQ> reiki, the drivers are installed
[01:18] <jrib> Stardog: did you try the wiki instructions? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:18] <RQ> reiki, I actually had the printer to print half of the ubuntu testpage
[01:18] <reiki> RQ: I had to fiddle with something in usb port setting... can't remember exactly... but it had to do with what it was NAMED ...
[01:18] <RQ> but nothing more.
[01:18] <gore_> could be a problem with the cd Kristan_uk2 , have you tried d/ling the iso's from the website?
[01:18] <sloncho> i can not make it work, as it did under suse
[01:18] <Kristan_uk2> im trying to install over XP on my laptop 930mhz with 256ram 20gb hdd
[01:18] <reiki> RQ: half a test page?
[01:18] <Stardog> jrib: yes i did....
[01:18] <RQ> yup
[01:18] <gore_> Kristan_uk2, try d/ling and burning the iso's from the webpage
[01:19] <gore_> that is if you have a connection better than dialup
[01:19] <Kristan_uk2> no not downloaded as only got dial-up internet
[01:19] <sloncho> same file, same settings, same font ... suse is OK, dapper displays ... ????
[01:19] <Stardog> jrib: i've read on the forums that there's a lot tha have exactly the same problem... but i've never figured out whats wrong :/
[01:19] <RQ> sloncho, what font is it ?
[01:19] <dli> Kristan_uk2, I installed from cd, and upgraded with dialup
[01:19] <gore_> Kristan_uk2, how long did you wait for it to continue have it locked
[01:19] <divineomega> where is the source.list repositary file found?
[01:20] <RQ> divineomega, /etc/apt
[01:20] <gore_> where are you guys that you are using dialup?
[01:20] <reiki> RQ: have you tried removing the printer and then adding a printer again?
[01:20] <RQ> reiki, not yet
[01:20] <divineomega> RQ, thanks
[01:20] <Kristan_uk2> i waited 30mins after selecting language
[01:20] <dli> Kristan_uk2, however, it's dial-up, very likely, you have buy a supported modem
[01:20] <sloncho> RQ: tried hebar (its bulgarian font, ttf, but not unicode). tried arial as well
[01:20] <RQ> divineomega, np
[01:20] <RQ> hmm
[01:20] <RQ> sloncho, do you *have* arial?
[01:20] <sloncho> RQ: yes I do
[01:21] <reiki> RQ: I had to do that when I was messing with TurboPrint drivers and cups was messed up. I buggered something and remove and re-add fixed it. Also... if you can.. try a different USB port
[01:21] <RQ> reiki, i can i can...
[01:21] <RQ> reiki, the thing is that same stuff happens for my mom with a totally different printer and another computer with dapper ;)
[01:22] <gore_> you are making yoru mom use dapper? you cruel cruel man
[01:22] <gore_> hehe
[01:22] <Kristan_uk2> so any idea's what to do other than spending hours downloading the iso's
[01:22] <RQ> gore_, :D
[01:22] <reiki> RQ: the printer stops working? I know for a while before release there were problems with cups, but it appears to be all fixed now. I have a USB Epson R200 and I can even print directly on printable CDs now
[01:22] <RQ> gore_, at least spyware  and viruses is not a problem ;)
[01:23] <gore_> kristan try picking another language maybe
[01:23] <gore_> then switch it back later
[01:23] <atlantian> hello all
[01:23] <gore_> yah RQ
[01:23] <gore_> but things like flash might trip her up
[01:23] <gore_> I know they trip me up
[01:23] <RQ> ah
[01:23] <gore_> very annoying
[01:23] <RQ> she doesn't care about flash ;)
[01:23] <gore_> yah but some website rely on the newest version of flash
[01:23] <dli> Kristan_uk2, you may supply options to kernel at booting
[01:23] <gore_> which is a problem
[01:23] <robod> hello people
[01:23] <reiki> gore:  I now do... new Dapper install.... then get easyubuntu... done
[01:23] <robod> i am trying to install Xgl
[01:24] <RQ> gore_, she has flash, i think.
[01:24] <atlantian> Here is my question today :P, I try to do SU in terminal, try to login as root,  and it always says wrong password or wrong username, and yet when i need to run things like username and it asks for password it works no problem, I cant mount an external drive because I need to be root also, but it will not let me in as root.. What is going on?
[01:24] <robod> everything when smooth up until running:
[01:24] <gore_> yah but the newest version of linux flash isn't the newest version of flash
[01:24] <gore_> so its a pain
[01:24] <jrib> !root > atlantian
[01:24] <robod> compiz --replace gconf decoration wobbly fade minimize cube rotate zoom scale move resize place switcher water &
[01:24] <gore_> their linux dev team sucks =P
[01:24] <reiki> atlantian: use sudo
[01:24] <[1] bill> atlantian, use sudo instead.  (sudo mount ....)
[01:24] <Kristan_uk2> what options at kernel?
[01:24] <robod> which returned the error:
[01:24] <robod> compiz.real: No composite extension
[01:24] <robod> what's wrong?
[01:25] <RQ> atlantian, use sudo
[01:25] <gore_> atlantian, if you want to log in as root
[01:25] <sloncho> !root
[01:25] <Kristan_uk2> if i install in a different language i wont understand anything then
[01:25] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:25] <gore_> sudo passwd root
[01:25] <robod> i did not restart the system, i just killed X
[01:25] <gore_> then set the password
[01:25] <RQ> or sudo -s
[01:25] <RQ> which is quite the same as su
[01:25] <gore_> su is better than sudo when you need to do multiple things
[01:26] <dli> krinns, can you try english?
[01:26] <gore_> better then having to type sudo then your password everytime
[01:26] <[1] bill> sudo bash if you want a root shell
[01:26] <jrib> gore_: it's the same as 'sudo -i'
[01:26] <jrib> "same"
[01:26] <krinns> yes dli
[01:26] <gore_> cool
[01:26] <sloncho> gore_: if u do multiple things, u do them fast enough not to need to enter password
[01:26] <Stardog> um.... so.... anyone got any idea to my problem?
[01:26] <gore_> never saw sudo -i
[01:26] <RQ> jrib, or sudo -s
[01:27] <sloncho> and if u are not fast enough, then u do not need su :)
[01:27] <atlantian> well how come it let me do it when updating etc
[01:27] <atlantian> wasnt that root?
[01:27] <RQ> reiki, readding the printer wouldn't help
[01:27] <dli> krinns, sorry, wrong nick
[01:27] <jrib> RQ: well sudo -i will reset the environment variables, so it's usually preferred.  sudo -i is like su - and sudo -s seems to be like just su
[01:27] <sloncho> atlantian - read the link above. sudo enables u to exec a command as root
[01:27] <sloncho> !root
[01:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:27] <RQ> jrib, ah, ok
[01:27] <RQ> :)
[01:27] <reiki> RQ: sorry... that's about as far as I can help this morning
[01:27] <atlantian> yeah i set password
[01:28] <dli> Kristan_uk2, try, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/36998
[01:28] <atlantian> and now i can go into terminal as root
[01:28] <RQ> reiki, i guess i have to REBOOT
[01:28] <RQ> damn
[01:28] <atlantian> when putting su
[01:28] <atlantian> thanks
[01:28] <Kristan_uk2> so is that the only advice, download isos from internet and try again
[01:28] <dli> Kristan_uk2, can you try another CD?
[01:28] <gore_> atlantian, look wat what they said, you can use sudo -i , and use your current user password vs using su
[01:29] <gore_> kristan you might be able to switch to the terminals to see if you see any error messages
[01:29] <gore_> ctrl+alt+f1 through f6
[01:30] <gore_> does anyone here use starterbar?
[01:30] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: did you verify the cd?
[01:30] <atlantian> how do you mount the external again, I tried sudo mount sdc1 in console (yeah i am new to this sorry ) :)
[01:31] <jrib> atlantian: what filesystem?
[01:31] <gore_> mount /dev/sdcl /thedirectory
[01:31] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: or you can start "server" instalation - text mode only, and later add the desktop
[01:31] <Kristan_uk2> no i just booted the cd and then double clicked install
[01:31] <atlantian> pitty you cant right click the drive and click run as root
[01:32] <jrib> atlantian: why would you want to do that?
[01:32] <gore_> how do you check whats mounted
[01:32] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: u booted, or you loaded the cd while running winboze?
[01:32] <jrib> gore_: mount
[01:32] <RQ> reiki, i can paste you the stuff from CUPS error_log ;)
[01:32] <gore_> is it in /etc/fstab?
[01:32] <sloncho> gore_: mount w/o any option
[01:32] <atlantian> jrib easier than doing it via console
[01:32] <gore_> gotcha
[01:32] <gore_> what is fstab exactly?
[01:32] <reiki> RQ: probably wouldn't help me much. I am not a guru :)
[01:32] <atlantian> terminal should i say
[01:33] <RQ> gore_, it's a file defining your filesystem mountpoints
[01:33] <jrib> atlantian: have you seen system > administration > disks
[01:33] <atlantian> wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1,
[01:33] <atlantian>        missing codepage or other error
[01:33] <atlantian>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:33] <atlantian>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:33] <sloncho> gore_: the file which describes which filesystems mount where on boot
[01:33] <gore_> gotcha
[01:33] <RQ> gore_, /etc/fstab
[01:33] <Kristan_uk2> yeah i started laptop and changed to boot from cd.....ran the live cd and then double clicked the install icon on the desktop
[01:33] <sloncho> gore_: man fstab
[01:33] <RQ> Kristan_uk2, and?
[01:33] <zero-1> how can i install nvidia drivers dor kernel 2.6.15 ?
[01:33] <gore_> yah sorry I'm not using my man pages enough
[01:34] <jrib> !nvidia > zero-1
[01:34] <Kristan_uk2> it starts the install i click forward with english language selected and then it doesnt go any further it just freezes
[01:34] <jrib> Kristan_uk2: did you burn this disk yourself?
[01:35] <Kristan_uk2> no i requested it off ubuntu site and it arrived this morning
[01:35] <atlantian> so external drives and usb drives do not run on linux unless allowed by root?
[01:35] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: ok, boot again from the cd, but when it displays the menu after the boot ("Start and install, etc, etc), select to change options, delete everything from the line and type only "linux server" no quotes
[01:35] <atlantian> that is nice
[01:35] <dli> Kristan_uk2, and all CDs behavior this way?
[01:35] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: this will start text install
[01:35] <jrib> Kristan_uk2: have you tried others in the pack? sometimes there are burn problems.  Other than that, I would try the alternate install cd
[01:36] <Kristan_uk2> there is only the one cd in the pack
[01:36] <Kristan_uk2> is there a way i can install this alongside windows
[01:36] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: when it is done and you boot in ubuntu, login and type: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[01:36] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: yes, the partitioner will ask you ...
[01:36] <jrib> sloncho: ubuntu-desktop I think
[01:37] <atlantian> jrib this sounds very basic, but once  your in disks how do i open them?
[01:37] <Kristan_uk2> so i will be able to switch which OS i want to use
[01:37] <sloncho> jrib: yeah, maybe, I started with xubuntu :)
[01:37] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: yes - on boot
[01:37] <jrib> atlantian: well that lets you mount them.  Then anyone with proper permissions can view them.  What filesystem do the disks use?
[01:38] <sloncho> Kristan_uk2: before you go further - read the docs for dual boot
[01:38] <jrib> atlantian: they should get mounted in /media/*
[01:38] <atlantian> fat
[01:38] <Kristan_uk2> where can i find the dual boot doc?
[01:39] <bimberi> !dualboot
[01:39] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:39] <atlantian> jrib status is inaccesible and when i click enable, nothing happens
[01:39] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: there ^^^^^^^^^
[01:40] <Kristan_uk2> how will i get everything on laptop to work with ubuntu, like modem and connecting to internet?
[01:40] <jrib> atlantian: ok, with fat, it doesn't allow you to set unix style permissions.  So, you have to modify the permissions linux gives it when it gets mounted.  The easiest way to do this is to just setup a line in fstab with the proper permissions
[01:41] <jrib> !fstab > atlantian
[01:41] <jrib> !vfat > atlantian
[01:41] <atlantian> thanks
[01:41] <atlantian> !fstab
[01:41] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[01:41] <Polypterus> Hi. I've got a problem with Azureus. It says "DHT stopped by firewall". How do I fix that?
[01:41] <atlantian> can you get a windows d key and ctrl alt delete addon for ubuntu im sure you could for fedora?
[01:42] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: laptop modems can be problematic as they're usually 'winmodems'
[01:42] <bbrazil> atlantian: doable, not sure how though
[01:42] <bimberi> !modem
[01:42] <ubotu> You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:42] <jrib> atlantian: sure, it's not that straight forward though
[01:43] <atlantian> its a good job i have dual boot and can go back to windows if need be
[01:43] <lsuactiafner> k, i want to install windows xp using wine, onto another disk, dont want to reboot my pc.. anyone know how or have a link?
[01:44] <Kristan_uk2> BIMBERI so is it worth me installing ubuntu if its going to be a pain?
[01:44] <A[D] minS> lsuactiafner:  u can use vmware
[01:44] <A[D] minS> not wine
[01:44] <jrib> atlantian: you have to run 'gconf-editor' and setup keybinding_commands and global_keybinds in the '/apps/metacity' keys.  To combine the window key with other stuff you have to set it up like '<mod4>d' or whatever the 'xmodmap' returns for the windows key instead of 'mod4'.  That's probably not all that clear, just ask :)
[01:45] <sven-tek> are there post-release images available that are updated with the updates afterwards? where?
[01:46] <atlantian> thanks
[01:46] <morrolan> not as far as I'm aware sven-tek
[01:46] <lsuactiafner> A[D] minS, 64bit machines can run vmware?
[01:46] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: i'm really struggling to answer that.  For me it would be worth it.  For you I can't know.
[01:46] <Kristan_uk2> ok i guess not to bother thanks anyway
[01:46] <lsuactiafner> is it just me or does tyra raid thing sound like she has something stuck in her throat?
[01:46] <A[D] minS> lsuactiafner: google
[01:47] <Kristan_uk2> bimberi: ok what are the advantages of ubuntu over XP on a latop?
[01:47] <pppoe_dude> Kristan_uk2, same advantages as on a desktop
[01:47] <hawkaloogie> it's not XP?
[01:48] <morrolan> Kristan_uk2: it works better?
[01:48] <morrolan> I'm running Dapper on a laptop, no dual boot
[01:48] <sven-tek> morrolan, i bother handing out CD's to my friends that needs to download hundrets of megabytes one month after it had been released.
[01:48] <pppoe_dude> Kristan_uk2, it is worth installing linux even though it might be painful at first... in a week or so your computer would be running tip-top
[01:49] <gorii> I've been at it for a week
[01:49] <morrolan> sven-tek, I know it sucks, but I think the only different versions you can download are the Beta's and the final.
[01:49] <gorii> and still finding things a bit of a pain
[01:49] <gorii> =P
[01:49] <morrolan> gorii, persevere!
[01:49] <gorii> haha I know, but its the little things that make me mad
[01:50] <Kristan_uk2> pppoe-dude: even as a dual boot?
[01:50] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: not constrained by software licenses, easy install of thousands of other packages, ability to give anyone a copy who asks guilt-free :)
[01:50] <pppoe_dude> gorii, yes, but first week usually the system becomes personalized enough... it takes more than a week to get used to linux obviously :-
[01:50] <gorii> like the crappy flash support and inability to play quicktime
[01:50] <morrolan> gorii, what are the niggles you hate?
[01:50] <morrolan> gorii, I can play flash fine, and I have quicktime support?
[01:50] <pppoe_dude> gorii, in a few you'll learn to stop going to flash sites and stop using quicktime :-
[01:51] <gorii> haha, I dont want to ignore the problems I want to fix them
[01:51] <morrolan> pppoe_dude: thats the problem - people see linux as limited, when it shouldn't be
[01:51] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: yes, it seems you're having an 'initial hurdle' experience.  If you persist and get over it i'm sure you'll find the experience worthwhile
[01:51] <dli> gorii, I heard the current dapper release is buggy
[01:51] <robod> hello
[01:51] <robod> i have added some app to gnome session
[01:51] <robod> which ... unfortunately crash gnome when they start
[01:51] <pppoe_dude> gorii, did u install flashplugin-nonfree and 'w32codecs' for xine/mplayer?
[01:51] <Kristan_uk2> does linux run faster than windows? will i be an easy target for hackers?
[01:51] <robod> i need to manually remove the apps
[01:51] <pppoe_dude> that should fix things
[01:52] <robod> where's the file located?
[01:52] <pulver> Kristan_uk2, depends
[01:52] <gorii> what non-free?
[01:52] <pppoe_dude> Kristan_uk2, depends and no
[01:52] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: frequently and no
[01:52] <dli> robod, by gnome-session-properties or ~/.gnome2/session ?
[01:52] <gorii> should it be in synaptic?
[01:52] <Kristan_uk2> why depends?......what stops hack attacks?
[01:52] <robod> dli: i did add via preferences > sessions
[01:52] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell gorii about restricted
[01:52] <finalbeta> gorii, yes, multiverse I think
[01:52] <morrolan> gorii, yes if you have updateds your repository list
[01:52] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: you will spend a lot less time (ie. none) worrying about viruses and spyware
[01:52] <robod> dli: i suppose gnome-session-properties
[01:53] <dli> robod, then, run gnome-session-properties
[01:53] <finalbeta> !resticted
[01:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about resticted
[01:53] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: depends was in answer to 'faster than windows'
[01:53] <robod> dli: thing is, i can't run it ... i'm not able to start gnome
[01:53] <morrolan> gorii, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[01:53] <finalbeta> !restricted
[01:53] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <morphix> XGL works with xfce aswell doesnt it? and if so,, how do i use it.. as in.. how do i start it up.
[01:53] <finalbeta> gorii, ^ follow that url for w32codecs
[01:53] <bimberi> !ubuntuguide
[01:53] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is an inaccurate and outdated resource. Please use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:54] <Kristan_uk2> will i still be able to connect to the internet with my laptop modem and orange dial-up?
[01:54] <schmakk> are there any specific reason that sound in linux has a way higher output level compared to windows?
[01:54] <robod> dli: any suggestions?
[01:54] <pulver> what photo management application do you prefer?
[01:54] <morrolan> ubotu - they've released a new Dapper guide...
[01:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about they've released a new Dapper guide...
[01:54] <pppoe_dude> morrolan, ubotu is a bot :-
[01:55] <morrolan> oh
[01:55] <morrolan> doh! (_8{] }
[01:55] <pppoe_dude> ubotu tell morrolan about ubotu
[01:55] <morrolan> Well, it's a wront bot
[01:55] <dli> robod, run gnome-session-properties and remove your changes
[01:55] <robod> dli: does gnome-session-properties *work* without X?
[01:55] <robod> dli: did you get my question?
[01:56] <dli> robod, you should run gnome-fail-safe
[01:56] <pulver> Kristan_uk2, test with a livecd
[01:56] <robod> dli: i need to *manually* edit the file
[01:56] <robod> aha
[01:56] <robod> dli: how to run gnome-fail-safe?
[01:56] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: sorry, no yes/no answer to that, you will have to find out if your modem hardware has linux support.  The links to the wiki from earlier will help with that
[01:56] <dli> robod, select your session in gdm before login
[01:56] <bimberi> Kristan_uk2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[01:56] <morrolan> gorii: if you follow the url http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper , it lists all repositories for free and non-free packages, and it has a HUGE list of issues and very easy solutions to deal with them in plain english
[01:57] <morrolan> it's essential
[01:57] <Kristan_uk2> but i dont know what make or model my modem is
[01:57] <robod> dli: the gnome fail safe is not listed in gdm
[01:57] <dli> Kristan_uk2, which laptop model?
[01:57] <Kristan_uk2> hp pavilion n5472
[01:57] <JeevesBond> Hi all. Am finding that I can only get read access to a samba share unless I have root privileges. Is there a way to change this?
[01:58] <Kristan_uk2> i cant get access to bios as password protected and hp wont give me it
[01:58] <dli> robod, stupid ubuntu, Ctl-Alt-F1, login, rm -rf ~/.gconf* ~/.gnome*
[01:58] <finalbeta> Anyone got sound to work on a TV card using alsa "arecord -D hw:1,0 -r 32000 -c 2 -f S16_LE | aplay -" I'm getting delay and sync problems. Changed to OSS, but then I ain't got sound control.
[01:59] <JeevesBond> Anyone, any ideas?
[01:59] <morrolan> Kristan_uk2: in that case, sue hp.  You own themachine, they cannot deny you the BIOS password
[01:59] <enyc> meep
[01:59] <robod> dli: i have found the gnome-fail-safe
[02:00] <robod> dli: still won't work :)
[02:00] <phrizer> Kristan_uk2, tried taking the battery out? ;x
[02:00] <gorii> robod do you know the program you added that is crashing it?
[02:00] <Kristan_uk2> because i dont have the receipt (was a xmas present) they wont give me any help or support had this trouble for a couple of years now as i want to enable irda port
[02:00] <robod> gorii: yess
[02:00] <gorii> what was it?
[02:01] <robod> gorii: compiz stuff :P
[02:01] <morrolan> Kristan_uk2: have you tried www.linux-laptop.net?
[02:01] <Kristan_uk2> cant find the bios battery or switch as there are loads in there and cant find help on internet
[02:01] <JeevesBond> Kristan_uk2 surely if it's a default password you could just Google for it? Or is that too stupid an answer?
[02:02] <Kristan_uk2> tried google but nothing works i tried over 40 default passwords
[02:02] <Kristan_uk2> will look there morrolan
[02:02] <gorii> oh
[02:02] <morrolan> Kristan_uk2: that url lists all hints and tips for getting linux working on a huge array of notebooks and laptops.  mI used it for help with my Toshiba
[02:02] <gorii> then its xgl
[02:02] <JeevesBond> Blimey!
[02:02] <gorii> perhaps
[02:02] <gorii> uninstall xgl
[02:02] <Kristan_uk2> thanks
[02:02] <morrolan> Kristan_uk2 you're most welcome :)
[02:03] <DjDarkman> hy ,how can I restart alsa?
[02:03] <Kristan_uk2> found my laptop says REDHAT7.2 next to it
[02:03] <gorii> morrolan, do you have the newest flash installed?
[02:03] <schmakk> can someone link me a place where i can read about the differences between alsa, oss and esound? i want to know how sound works with linux
[02:03] <finalbeta> schmakk, I'll second that :p
[02:03] <morrolan> gorii: I only installed it a few days ago, so I hope so!
[02:04] <gorii> http://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm
[02:04] <sarah> HELP. Where can I find IE?... I'm trying to acces a website and it's not compatible with firefox.
[02:04] <gorii> try that page seeif you can see the text in the buttons
[02:04] <gorii> =P
[02:04] <JeevesBond> Will just try my question again: Am finding that I can only get read access to a samba share unless I have root privileges. Is there a way to change this?
[02:04] <Kristan_uk2> page cant be displayed for my laptop
[02:04] <finalbeta> sarah, lol, IE is windows.
[02:04] <morrolan> sarah: you won't get IE - but look at the Extensions available for Firefox, and there is one which emulates IE
[02:04] <JeevesBond> sarag: IE is a microsoft program
[02:04] <sarah> -is new to this thing-
[02:04] <gorii> !quicktime
[02:04] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:05] <morrolan> sarah: don't worry, we all were at some point
[02:05] <DjDarkman> sarah: look for a plugin in firefox
[02:05] <Kristan_uk2> morrolan: the page for my laptop wont open
[02:05] <sarah> okay, thank you. (:
[02:05] <JeevesBond> It's that web site that is in the wrong. So don't worry about it!
[02:05] <DjDarkman> sarah: wait
[02:05] <sarah> ?
[02:05] <DjDarkman> sarah: i heard of a firefox plugin that renders a website with the ie engine
[02:05] <ompaul> Derevko\away, Please do not set yourself away  -- do this /away MEssage to anyone - saves telling 707 people and
[02:06] <JeevesBond> DjDarkman: Surely that would only work under Windows though
[02:06] <ompaul> Derevko\away, your not spamming the channel if we all did it the channel would not be useful thanks
[02:06] <Scrippie> hello
[02:06] <JeevesBond> As it actually uses IE as a component
[02:06] <zcat[1] > for every website that only works with IE there are usually another hundred with the same information or service that work in any browser.... it's usually easiest to find a different website that try to work around the 'broken' one
[02:06] <DjDarkman> JeevesBond: why do you think so?it just a dll
[02:06] <finalbeta> I want to enable Java inside firefox, but installing the plugin thru apt-get would install a java runtime framework. I fear that would kill of my JDK. Is this correct?
[02:06] <Scrippie> good
[02:07] <JeevesBond> Well, what's it going to think when you call a function of that DLL and it goes and looks for something in the registry? :)
[02:07] <morrolan> finalbeta: you can install a firefox-plugin at the same time which will enable Java inside Firefox
[02:07] <damy[ubuntu] > hi all
[02:07] <J0s3ph> Hello. I was hoping I could get a little bit of help regarding NFS between two Ubuntu installations (one main, the other VMWare).
[02:07] <damy[ubuntu] > how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:08] <finalbeta> morrolan, manually then? Not thru apt-get sinse it would install enother framework
[02:08] <J0s3ph> All looks good, but when I attempt to mount the share on the VM I get "mount to NFS server '192.168.1.100' failed."
[02:08] <J0s3ph> Any help would be appreciated.
[02:08] <damy[ubuntu] > how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:08] <morrolan> finalbeta: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[02:08] <gorii> ok that sucked
[02:08] <gorii> easyubuntu crashed in flames
[02:09] <damy[ubuntu] > Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:09] <gorii> I should have never used automatix
[02:09] <ompaul> orga mind if I message you about something o/t ?
[02:09] <finalbeta> morrolan, currently all programs can use the JDK, I don't really want to install a JRE.
[02:09] <morrolan> finalbeta: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[02:09] <J0s3ph> gorii: I discovered that when I first got going with Linux.
[02:09] <damy[ubuntu] > Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:09] <zcat[1] > damy[ubuntu] : stop repeating please!
[02:09] <morrolan> do a CTRL+F for find in Firefox, and search for Java
[02:09] <J0s3ph> gorii: and i find it much more fun to learn how to get it all going myself too
[02:09] <damy[ubuntu] > zcat[1]  can u help me please?
[02:10] <gorii> yah J0s3ph I was just making a general statement not a plea for help =P
[02:10] <bimberi> !wifi > damy[ubuntu] 
[02:10] <ompaul> damy[ubuntu] , if it does not work out of the box do this /msg ubotu ndiswrapper and before ogra@ubuntu.com
[02:10] <morrolan> finalbeta: they can still use the JDK - the JDK will be default, except if you run a Java program through Firefox plugin, in which case it willl use the JRE
[02:10] <ompaul> woops
[02:10] <zcat[1] > no. Did you try just plugging it in and see what happens. I've found about 955 of stuff just works right away....
[02:10] <finalbeta> morrolan, what a waste.
[02:10] <morrolan> finalbeta: look at the URL I gave you, it explains it a little better
[02:10] <morrolan> finalbeta: I know, but it's the only way I know.
[02:11] <morrolan> finalbeta: I don't use the JDK, but I know you can set one as default and leave the plugin as a secondary use
[02:11] <finalbeta> kal0, thnx for the info morrolan
[02:12] <gyro54> which is the best video card for DD with TV out?
[02:12] <morrolan> finalbeta: anytime
[02:12] <snoops> can I backup my keyring?
[02:12] <JeevesBond> So does anyone have any idea why I can only access a samba share (Ubuntu -> Windows using the Administrator username and password to mount) with root privileges (i.e. having to sudo)?
[02:12] <morrolan> snoops: which keyring?
[02:13] <finalbeta> JeevesBond, only root can mount right?
[02:13] <snoops> morrolan umm well when I connect to say a remote windows share with the smb:// format it asks for the password, and asked if I want to save to keyring
[02:13] <JeevesBond> Correct, and that I can understand. Is there not a way when mounting that I can make the share available to other users?
[02:14] <Cyorxamp> You probably get asked this alot, but when is 6.10 due?
[02:14] <finalbeta> The only way I know of is using fstab JeevesBond, but indeed, I hope there is a beter way
[02:14] <J0s3ph> Isn't it every 6 months roughly?
[02:14] <zcat[1] > !edgy
[02:14] <ubotu> edgy is the current development version of Ubuntu. Version 6.10, codename "Edgy Eft"
[02:15] <Cyorxamp> zcat[1]  - isn't 6.10 supposed to be just updates?
[02:15] <Cyorxamp> i.e. soon ?
[02:15] <zcat[1] > 6.10 means 10th month of 06
[02:15] <JeevesBond> Ahhhh, I see. That would mount it at startup wouldn't it? Sounds like a hard job to me!
[02:16] <zcat[1] > dapper was long-term support, edgy is supposted to play with bleeding-edge stuff I believe..
[02:16] <finalbeta> JeevesBond, same here, keep asking here, perhaps someone else knows more
[02:16] <snoops> are they thinking of adding aiglx/glx into edgy zcat[1] ?
[02:16] <}btorch{> hi where can I change my display setting on ubuntu ?
[02:16] <JeevesBond> Ok, thanks for the help finalbeta. I might have a more exhaustive search on the forums. Hmmmm.
[02:16] <}btorch{> i'm familiar with sax only
[02:17] <zcat[1] > I hope so :) a bit hard when most/all the 3d drivers are binary-only...
[02:17] <JeevesBond> Or maybe it's time to crank Vim up again!
[02:17] <morphix> anyone set up XGL with XUbuntu with dual monitor setup?
[02:18] <}btorch{> i can't even find a xterm here
[02:18] <morphix> or does anyone know where there are guides for it
[02:18] <zcat[1] > latest updates broke my xgl.. very annoying.
[02:18] <JeevesBond> there's some good stuff on the forums morphix
[02:18] <JeevesBond> I have set it up but under Gnome, with only one monitor
[02:18] <zcat[1] > 'damn you Quinn!!' :-)
[02:18] <finalbeta> I wouldn't recomment running XGL unless it's for playing.
[02:19] <morphix> JeevesBond, could u point me in the right direction??
[02:19] <morphix> finalbeta, why?
[02:19] <zcat[1] > edgy IS for playing :)
[02:19] <finalbeta> It's really buggy
[02:19] <finalbeta> and I mean, badly
[02:19] <JeevesBond> morphix: Certainly. What type of graphics card do you have? nvidia or ATI
[02:19] <zcat[1] > nah, it's been really good up til now..
[02:19] <finalbeta> It's handy, but it needs allot of work
[02:19] <JeevesBond> I haven't had any problem finalbeta
[02:19] <uep> i'd actually like to contribute development-wise to xgl
[02:19] <uep> but i wasn't able to get it working
[02:20] <morphix> JeevesBond, Ati
[02:20] <Cyorxamp> Was I just kicked or did I press something?
[02:20] <JeevesBond> Hmmm, not so well supported I don't think. Let me have a rummage on the forums. :)
[02:20] <morphix> finalbeta, i am sick of this fake transparency in most apps. i want TRUE transparency
[02:20] <finalbeta> JeevesBond, opening a new windows in firefox opens on enother window, maximising windows sometimes takes two senconds. windows flip out, F10 works , but doesn't always go to the window you select
[02:21] <finalbeta> And pretty mutch any update will brake it :p
[02:21] <gharz> guys, can i use GAIM to connect to IRC?
[02:21] <richee> what happened why was Cyorxamp kicked or banned?
[02:21] <richee> gharz: Sure u can
[02:22] <finalbeta> To use things like remote desktop, or even netbeans you need to use xnest because windows are to transparent
[02:22] <gharz> really? i've been looking at the preferences but i don't see any settings for IRC
[02:22] <JeevesBond> Wow, I haven't had those issues finalbeta
[02:22] <zcat[1] > finalbeta: east enough to go back to plain X though... I can live without it until the next update sets it all right again
[02:23] <JeevesBond> Try this morphix: http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389 - just be careful. It is a little buggy ;)
[02:23] <finalbeta> Playing video doesn't work yet, it's in shocks <I know you've got that one
[02:23] <gharz> richee, ok. i'll check on it again. thanks.
[02:23] <damy[ubuntu] > Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:23] <morphix> JeevesBond, ok.. i will look.
[02:23] <morphix> JeevesBond, thanks.
[02:23] <richee> gharz: U can use xchat
[02:23] <JeevesBond> Haven't had problems playing video?! Not that I've really tried!
[02:23] <JeevesBond> No problems morphix!
[02:23] <finalbeta> anything on openGL is buggy
[02:24] <gharz> richee, i'm using xchat now. ;)
[02:24] <gharz> i just wanna try gaim to connect to IRC and see how it looks like.
[02:24] <snoops> finalbeta sorry you've had so many probs with xgl/compiz.. I've had next to none
[02:24] <zcat[1] > fullscreen is a bit choppy though
[02:24] <finalbeta> JeevesBond, well, you don't watch right, playing DVD's video etc, will be choppy
[02:24] <richee> gharz: Aren't u comfortable with XCHAT
[02:24] <JeevesBond> Ah right. I don't really watch DVD's so it hasn't affected me
[02:24] <finalbeta> Novel should have some of those issues fixed on SLED10, so i'll wait
[02:24] <JeevesBond> I don't always turn it on either
[02:25] <snoops> finalbeta I hope you've been using quinn's releases, since the ones on the universal repositories are so old
[02:25] <gharz> i'm very much comfortable. i just don't want to open so many applications if i can use gaim to connect to irc... coz my gaim is always on.
[02:25] <finalbeta> snoops, yes I did
[02:25] <zcat[1] > finalbeta: there's a switch that makes it ten times better, can't recall what it was and not on that machine right now.. something quinnstorm told me in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:25] <JeevesBond> zcat[1]  They should turn that switch on by default then! ;)
[02:25] <finalbeta> I've used this guide BTW :http://www.compiz.net/viewtopic.php?id=389
[02:26] <dmizer> need some help with embedded video using mplayer.
[02:26] <JeevesBond> I used the older one on the Ubuntu forums, your one has overtaken the Ubuntu forums one though
[02:27] <JeevesBond> dmizer: You're not having problems with it not playing WMV's are you?
[02:27] <JeevesBond> Or is it just not working in general?
[02:27] <finalbeta> Can someone recommend me an MP3 tag (perhaps even WMA) editor?
[02:27] <dmizer> JeevesBond: it works, but it locks firefox at the end.
[02:27] <zcat[1] > in your gdm.conf-custom (or in the login setup if you do things the gui way),  add -accel glx:pbuffer  to the Xgl options
[02:27] <dmizer> i have to do killall firefox
[02:28] <dmizer> i'm using xfce
[02:28] <zcat[1] > might just be an nvidia thing, I dunno...
[02:28] <JeevesBond> Ooooh, thanks zcat[1] !!
[02:28] <zcat[1] > I think that's what it was.. didn't find it in any of the web howto's
[02:30] <dmizer> JeevesBond: i have added alsa to the .mplayer/configure file ... without this switch, video playback is terrible.
[02:30] <finalbeta> Can someone recommend me an MP3 tag (perhaps even WMA) editor?
[02:31] <damy[ubuntu] > Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:31] <JeevesBond> Ahh, already have that. Thanks though zcat[1] 
[02:32] <bigfoot1> ok. quick. how do i print out the contents of a text file via cli?
[02:32] <JeevesBond> dmizer: Hmmm, my problem is somewhat different. I installed mplayer but it can't find any of the wmv codecs
[02:32] <JeevesBond> I checked and their all in completely the wrong folder
[02:32] <Kibou> BiGcaT: cat ?
[02:32] <JeevesBond> they're*
[02:33] <dmizer> make symbolic links?
[02:33] <bigfoot1> Kibou: me?
[02:33] <bigfoot1> yes me
[02:33] <bigfoot1> thansk
[02:33] <Kibou> yes
[02:33] <Kibou> sorry ;)
[02:33] <JeevesBond> Yeah, I can't remember what I did or whether it worked. I should have another go
[02:33] <Otacon22> anyone have already installed haclf life with cedega?
[02:33] <Otacon22> anyone have already installed haclf life with cedega?
[02:33] <bigfoot1> that's ok. cats are easier to think about than a foot
[02:33] <Otacon22> *half
[02:33] <Kibou> :)
[02:33] <Otacon22> I am refering to half life 2
[02:33] <DjDarkman> how can I change the default automake version?
[02:33] <Otacon22> I have a problem with install
[02:34] <dmizer> JeevesBond: did you use any kind of script to update firefox?
[02:34] <JeevesBond> I don't use Firefox
[02:34] <Otacon22> http://img445.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata120rf.png
[02:34] <dmizer> ah ... what's your flavor?
[02:34] <JeevesBond> Am one of those horrible Opera lovers ;)
[02:34] <dmizer> mplayer doesn't work right in opera.
[02:34] <JeevesBond> In fact am using the built-in IRC client to talk to you now
[02:34] <dmizer> mplayer plug in site doesn't recommend it's use.
[02:35] <slonnik> hi all ppl
[02:35] <slonnik> i need help
[02:35] <ompaul> !help
[02:35] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[02:35] <Rundy> hi slonnik
[02:35] <ompaul> !ask
[02:35] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:36] <slonnik> i have gcc installed but if i try to compile any sources i have following checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:36] <JeevesBond> You're assuming I've been playing video in Opera. I haven't have been playing files in mplayer and it still doesn't work. Have been using VLC as a substitute but that doesn't always work either
[02:36] <gore_> anyone know how to make a link to your home directory on a panel
[02:37] <slonnik> gore that's a good question too :)
[02:37] <dmizer> JeevesBond: yeah, i tried vlc, and totem with both xine and gstreamer and nothing works right.
[02:37] <zcat[1] > gore_: drag and drop the home option from the places menu onto the panel..
[02:37] <gore_> bingo thanks zcat[1] 
[02:38] <zcat[1] > too easy :-)
[02:38] <finalbeta> gore_, I think starting nautilus with a parameter for the path will work.
[02:38] <damy[ubuntu] > Hello, how can i install on my ubuntu the usb adapter d-link dwl g132? help me please
[02:38] <RQ> what does it adapt?
[02:38] <JeevesBond> Agreed dmizer
[02:39] <JeevesBond> damy[ubuntu] : I don't think anyone knows!
[02:39] <johan_> Any webpage with flash on it makes firefox eat 70% cpu, that is really annoying. Is there an easy way to make that just a few % as usual?
[02:39] <slonnik> so how about my gcc question guys
[02:39] <JeevesBond> damy[ubuntu] : What does this adapter do exactly?
[02:39] <RQ> johan_, remove flash
[02:39] <RQ> that's what i did
[02:39] <zcat[1] > one thing I don't like though.. if you drag and drop home to your desktop and then drop other stuff onto it, it doesn't behave like other folders, even though it otherwise looks and behaves like them..
[02:39] <RQ> ;)
[02:39] <dmizer> that's a wireless adapter.
[02:39] <JeevesBond> johan_: That's closed source for you
[02:39] <johan_> RQ: But sometimes I need it. Is there a way to turn it on/off on the fly?
[02:39] <solan> how do I update from breezy to dapper? is it the same prosess as from hoary to breezy?
[02:39] <RQ> johan_, i don't think so
[02:39] <finalbeta> gore_, hmm, that was easy, you just need to add the application nautilus... starts in your home dir by default
[02:39] <RQ> dmizer,ah..
[02:40] <dmizer>  damy[ubuntu]  ... best i can suggest is ndiswrapper.
[02:40] <Frogzoo> if I have links to wine exes, how can I get the link to display the icon that's inside the exe?
[02:40] <atlantian> hello again guys
[02:40] <atlantian> im back :S
[02:40] <JeevesBond> Hello atlantian
[02:40] <damy[ubuntu] > dmizer: can i pvt with you?
[02:40] <johan_> RQ: I used to have a firefox plugin that added a play button on all the flash files, but I've forgotten the name of it, and I think it was Windows only.
[02:40] <atlantian> I cant get vncviewer or server to work for the life of me
[02:40] <ompaul> !ndiswrapper
[02:40] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:40] <dmizer>  damy[ubuntu]  ... check the wiki page with a search for wireless adapters to see if yours is supported.
[02:40] <atlantian> I have been connecting to a friend in canada windows to windows using realvnc
[02:40] <zcat[1] > damy[ubuntu] : your adapter is apparently unsupported. try a google search, there are a few suggestions that might be worth trying..
[02:40] <dmizer>  damy[ubuntu]  ... dunno if i have that capability.
[02:41] <slonnik> nobody wants help me :(
[02:41] <atlantian> Now i would like to connect to a windows box for now, then figure out how to set up vnc on a linux box and connect to it via another linux box over the nternet
[02:41] <RQ> gore_, tried ln -s .. ~/Desktop/Hoome ?
[02:41] <atlantian> I have tried vncviewer in terminal and kdrc and b/a what ever they are called
[02:41] <atlantian> no look
[02:41] <solan> how do I update from breezy to dapper? is it the same prosess as from hoary to breezy?
[02:41] <atlantian> luckI*
[02:41] <damy[ubuntu] > Installed ndis drivers:
[02:41] <damy[ubuntu] > athfmwdl                driver present, hardware present
[02:41] <damy[ubuntu] > neta5agu                driver present, hardware present
[02:41] <damy[ubuntu] > look it
[02:41] <damy[ubuntu] > but the adpter it's off :(
[02:42] <dmizer> no light at all?
[02:42] <damy[ubuntu] > no
[02:42] <zcat[1] > iwconfig next to turn it on?
[02:42] <slonnik> ehmm
[02:42] <dmizer>  damy[ubuntu]  give me a sec ...
[02:42] <Kibou> johan_: flashblock
[02:42] <slonnik> help me pleeeeeeaaaaaseee
[02:42] <johan_> Kibou: thanks.
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > lo        no wireless extensions.
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > eth0      no wireless extensions.
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > sit0      no wireless extensions.
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > this is the result of iwconfig
[02:43] <zcat[1] > hmmm.. not good.
[02:43] <atlantian> Can anyone give me hints on how to get VNC working under ubuntu?
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > it's adpter usb
[02:43] <damy[ubuntu] > ndiswrapper support this
[02:43] <RQ> atlantian, server or client?
[02:44] <BCK14> does anyone here use enligtenment ?
[02:44] <atlantian> i have been using windows to windows realvnc server to client for a while now RQ
[02:44] <BCK14> as a window manager?
[02:44] <Lynoure> slonnik: if you keep on saying that they don't want to, they will not. I bet it is not about wanting... Did you google that error already?
[02:44] <RQ> atlantian, and?
[02:44] <atlantian> now me and that guiy are both moving to linux, so i need him to set up his as a server and mine as the viewer RQ
[02:44] <RQ> :)
[02:44] <JeevesBond> To whoever was asking about upgrading to Dapper: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades
[02:44] <RQ> atlantian, if you're dumping windows, then forget vnc too
[02:44] <RQ> use remote X
[02:44] <BCK14> !enlightenment
[02:44] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[02:45] <atlantian> RQ? why VNC is good
[02:45] <Seveas> atlantian, freenx is better
[02:45] <atlantian> ok sell me a better linux alternative then RQ
[02:45] <RQ> atlantian, remote C
[02:45] <RQ> remote x, bah ;)
[02:45] <Lynoure> slonnik: Did you try this: http://www.geektimes.com/linux/troubleshooting/c-cant-create-executables.html ?
[02:45] <Seveas> RQ, remote X is almost as slow as vnc
[02:45] <RQ> atlantian, look at /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:45] <Kibou> it's slower
[02:46] <RQ> Seveas, at least it won't add additional layer :)
[02:46] <atlantian> seveas in windows i have never know VNC to be slow
[02:46] <Seveas> true that 
[02:46] <zcat[1] > ssh -X works for me...
[02:46] <RQ>  << this one's good
[02:46] <Seveas> atlantian, heh, if you think VNC is fast, you'll love freenx
[02:46] <philipsmith> I've got a SUSE 10.0 machine and want to try DAPPER. I downloaded the ISO image on an XP machine and burned it to disk as an ISO image using NERO. I inserted the CD and booted. Nothing happens! What am I doing wrong?
[02:46] <dmizer> tsu?
[02:46] <oneleaf> #ubuntu-cn
[02:46] <JeevesBond> How far does it get philipsmith
[02:46] <RQ> philipsmith, define "nothing happens"
[02:46] <atlantian> what would be the most secure, and easy to set up then seveas? can you give me some serious help on this because i am new to linux as a fully fledged main system
[02:46] <schmakk> if i want rythmbox to know that mp3 files are in fact audiostreams, i do.. what?
[02:47] <Seveas> !freenx > atlantian
[02:47] <RQ> atlantian, i  used remote login through gdm
[02:47] <JeevesBond> !freenx
[02:47] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:47] <slonnik> why it happens : checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:47] <RQ> i think it's called xdmcp  :)
[02:47] <RQ> i liked it
[02:47] <mc__> philipsmith, is the cdrom-drive your first boot device?
[02:47] <zcat[1] > "nothing happens"  -- try turning the computer on?? something should happen even if it's only the BIOS check...
[02:47] <Kibou> can freenx attch itself to an existing x-session?
[02:47] <Seveas> Kibou, no
[02:47] <atlantian> guys, is freenx secure?
[02:47] <Seveas> atlantian, yes
[02:47] <Kibou> I think that's what he's looking for though
[02:47] <RQ> slonnik, apt-get install build-essential
[02:47] <Kibou> "windows like"
[02:47] <atlantian> how so seveas what does it use?
[02:48] <JeevesBond> VNC sure as heck isn't secure
[02:48] <dmizer> i second that.
[02:48] <zcat[1] > ssh -X is secure :)
[02:48] <RQ> atlantian, try xdmcp first )
[02:48] <JeevesBond> True zcat[1]  Is it easy to setup?
[02:48] <RQ> it needs no installation
[02:48] <philipsmith> MC Jeeves and RQ: The CD is my 1st boot device. It seems to get to the point where it wants to read the CD, but can't.
[02:48] <atlantian> rq why?
[02:49] <dmizer> ssh should be installed by default.
[02:49] <atlantian> btw how come that link is SSL?
[02:49] <atlantian> the wiki one
[02:49] <mc__> philipsmith, what is the last message that you see?
[02:49] <RQ> atlantian, why what?
[02:49] <zcat[1] > yes, but not that easy to use.. just run individual programs from the command line and the output /display gets tunneled to the machine you're on..
[02:49] <RQ> philipsmith, maybe the CD is bad
[02:49] <atlantian> why should i try that firs
[02:49] <JeevesBond> philipsmith: It might just be a case of writing a new CD
[02:49] <RQ> atlantian, because you already have it.
[02:49] <sktx> is anyone else having no luck connecting to dalnet?
[02:49] <JeevesBond> That would be the most obviuos
[02:50] <JeevesBond> sktx: Haven't tried. Maybe it's down?
[02:50] <philipsmith> MC rq: i tried 3 diffeent cds. I'll log off here and write down the last message. Thank you!
[02:50] <atlantian> is the SSH used with freenx more secure than the encryption used with RealVNC (seveas)?
[02:51] <slonnik> thanx everything is ok
[02:51] <JeevesBond> RealVNC doesn't have any encryption?!
[02:51] <RQ> atlantian, ssh is secure enough
[02:51] <Seveas> atlantian, it's at least as secure as (didn't even know vnc did encryption)
[02:52] <zcat[1] > is any VNC encrypted? afaik they're all plaintext.
[02:52] <dmizer> it would be too slow otherwise.
[02:52] <gore_> ok heres a dumb question
[02:52] <gore_> how do I change the default player for videos from totem to mplayer?
[02:53] <gore_> I figured its somewhere in gconf-editor but I couldn't find it
[02:53] <zcat[1] > right-click on a video, select properties, run-with, change the player it gets run with...
[02:53] <dmizer> zcat[1]  you get all the easy ones.
[02:53] <sktx> JeevesBond, no i don't think so, i haven't been able to connect for about a month... a traceroute shows the connection is dying after two hops.. but i don't know how to find out if my isp is blocking the connection, or what the problem is
[02:53] <gore_> yah but by default
[02:53] <zcat[1] > they're all easy ones :)
[02:53] <gore_> oooo
[02:54] <zcat[1] > that will change the default for all videos of that type..
[02:54] <gore_> sweet
[02:54] <mc__> if embedding freenx into a website,do there have other ports than 80 to be open on the client?
[02:54] <RQ> "Flash Player 9 for Linux is still... in process."
[02:54] <RQ> hehe
[02:54] <dmizer> got an answer for mplayer crashing firefox zcat[1] ?
[02:54] <gore_> does everyone here use gnome pretty much?
[02:54] <JeevesBond> DALnet Europe or US?
[02:54] <RQ> flash 9 will be ALSA
[02:54] <RQ> ;))
[02:54] <bina> if I'm getting quite a lot of I/O errors from my CDRom, does it suggest its dieing or could it just be a bad configuration?
[02:54] <RQ> gore_, what about it? :D
[02:54] <Seveas> mc__, port 22 outgoing (freenx uses ssh)
[02:54] <JeevesBond> Opera 8.5 Linux is due out sometime in 2007
[02:55] <RQ> !freenx
[02:55] <zcat[1] > dmizer: ummm.. grab the link and play it outside of firefox? that's what I always do
[02:55] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[02:55] <xemacs_> hi i got a question, does ubuntu server come with gnome? or another wm ?
[02:55] <zcat[1] > I never liked embedded players anyhow..
[02:55] <ifvoid> hi guys
[02:55] <mc__> Seveas, great so i can connect to my pc from school
[02:56] <JeevesBond> Hopefully Flash 9 will be open source... Or should I say Gnash ;) (http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/)
[02:56] <dmizer> zcat[1]  ... that would be nice, except this computer's going to a group home full of special needs children.
[02:56] <gore_> just wondering rq, because I figured it would be different if I were using kde
[02:56] <ifvoid> my gnome-power-manager won't suspend or hubernate my computer anymore
[02:56] <ifvoid> but running the acpi script by hand works ok
[02:56] <daviscostel> hi shipit has an irc channel?
[02:56] <JeevesBond> I'd love it if Gnash were production ready before Flash
[02:56] <dmizer> zcat[1]  they just want to play movie trailers.
[02:56] <gore_> yah mplayer in firefox is super buggy
[02:56] <dmizer> lol
[02:56] <Seveas> daviscostel, no
[02:56] <RQ> gore_, #kubuntu guys use kde
[02:56] <RQ> ;)
[02:56] <ifvoid> so it seems dbus is not propagating the event to acpi or so
[02:56] <finalbeta> kal0, sry to ask something line this, but did any of you installl Enemy Territory? Kindoff don't know what I need
[02:56] <daviscostel> i'm so mad
[02:56] <zcat[1] > is there a vlc plugin?
[02:56] <ifvoid> anyone an idea of why this could be?
[02:56] <RQ> gore_, i used to use it
[02:57] <daviscostel> they dont send me my copy
[02:57] <gore_> dmizer,  make them search for it on utube =P
[02:57] <gore_> yah rq I used it afor a while
[02:57] <dmizer> yeah ... get flash to work while you're at it.
[02:57] <dmizer> lol
[02:57] <zcat[1] > rofl... flash player is better?!!
[02:57] <RQ> :)
[02:57] <Seveas> daviscostel, relax, it can take a while...
[02:57] <daviscostel> ok:(
[02:57] <dmizer> zcat[1]  tried vlc ... played audio, but no video.
[02:57] <gore_> zcat[1] , his mplayer was crashing, I'm mister avoid the problem =P
[02:57] <RQ> dmizer, try mozplugger
[02:57] <daviscostel> fuck Win
[02:58] <gore_> just missing the codecs
[02:58] <gore_> d/l automatix
[02:58] <JeevesBond> lol daviscostel
[02:58] <gore_> or easyubuntu
[02:58] <gore_> !automatix
[02:58] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[02:58] <RQ> hehe
[02:58] <gore_> haha
[02:58] <RQ> is it The automatix that fucks up your distro? :] 
[02:58] <zcat[1] > vlc uses gstreamer plugins right, not w32codecs ?
[02:58] <freaky_> heya, i got an issue with the desktop CD... it boots nicely, only it gives me only a crappy 640x480 res (on a 17" monitor...). anyways, i'm unable to install now as part of the installation screen isn't visible (mainly the next/previous buttons n such)
[02:58] <dmizer> RQ: i'm not missing codecs ... video plays, it just crashes firefox.
[02:58] <gore_> apparently ubotu doesn't like automatix
[02:58] <RQ> dmizer, try mozplugger
[02:58] <Seveas> gore_, that's because automatix is an automatic system wrecker
[02:59] <prammy> freaky_: what video card ?
[02:59] <RQ> freaky_, try <ctrl><+>
[02:59] <MistaED> zcat[1] : i think vlc uses its own compiled codecs, don't quote me on it though
[02:59] <freaky_> RQ: no good, tried that already, also under preferences it doesn't allow me to select anything higher than 640x480
[02:59] <freaky_> prammy: lemme check brb
[02:59] <JeevesBond> I get that impression too MistaED
[03:00] <zcat[1] > mplayer does a crap job with some streams anyhow.. stuff vlc can play fine, mplayer totally scrambles for me quite often.. very frustrating since mplayer makes it so easy to dump to wav and stuff...
[03:00] <RQ> freaky_, what is your card?
[03:00] <gore_> Seveas, I haven't seen any problems =P
[03:00] <Seveas> gore_, lucky you
[03:00] <RQ> gore_, you will. :D
[03:00] <gore_> haha what do you mean I will?!!
[03:00] <freaky_> trident microsystems cyberblade
[03:00] <RQ> don't worry until you do though
[03:00] <RQ> ;)
[03:00] <freaky_> never heard of it :D
[03:00] <RQ> freaky_, nope
[03:01] <RQ> ;)
[03:01] <freaky_> it's an onboard card
[03:01] <JeevesBond> Personally I despise the wmv format. There's no technical merit to it, just an attempt to break Open Source
[03:01] <RQ> freaky_, maybe you should try VESA driver?
[03:01] <MistaED> zcat[1] : i use totem-xine most of the time, mplayer for w32codecs and vlc for anything which didn't work on the first two, bit messy but it does the job
[03:01] <freaky_> how would i do that on the live cd?
[03:01] <freaky_> it's a athlon 800 doubt it has troubles handling higher res.. :)
[03:01] <RQ> freaky_, uh, look at the help messages on boot prompt
[03:02] <MistaED> like recently my vlc cacks up on .mov and h.264, and totem-xine is fine with it
[03:02] <RQ> they let you pass boot options
[03:02] <daviscostel> Ubuntu Dapper drake 6 has a bug
[03:02] <zcat[1] > daviscostel: only one?
[03:02] <RQ> daviscostel, it has more than one bug
[03:02] <RQ> ;)
[03:02] <JeevesBond> What's that daviscostel? :)
[03:03] <daviscostel> when u configure urself ut partitions
[03:03] <daviscostel> manualy
[03:03] <Phanto1> alguien habla espaniol?
[03:03] <daviscostel> u must do a swap partition
[03:03] <daviscostel> a logical one
[03:03] <RQ> Phanto1, try #ubuntu-es maybe?
[03:03] <JeevesBond> daviscostel: And that's a bug?
[03:03] <Phanto1> thanks
[03:03] <daviscostel> yes
[03:03] <prammy> freaky_: trident cyberblade you said ?
[03:03] <zcat[1] > that'sa feature...
[03:03] <mc__> !nomachine
[03:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about nomachine
[03:04] <freaky_> prammy: yea
[03:04] <daviscostel> i go on windows use partition magi to make a swap
[03:04] <daviscostel> that sucks
[03:04] <BWF89> they have something called Linux Rescue CD that does the same thing for free
[03:04] <freaky_> daviscostel: windows? :P
[03:04] <daviscostel> yes
[03:04] <prammy> freaky_: afaik that card should be supported under Xorg since it was supported under XFree
[03:04] <[1] bill> gparted?
[03:04] <BWF89> its a clone of partition magic 8, only its a boot-up live cd based on Gentoo i think
[03:04] <prammy> freaky_: i am checking on it
[03:05] <MistaED> use cfdisk, its been very stable and reliable for me and it's not too hard to figure out
[03:05] <gore_> anyone use soulseek?
[03:05] <zcat[1] > I dunno.. the breezy install always worked oK for me...
[03:05] <ompaul> daviscostel, the installer gives you that chance
[03:05] <freaky_> prammy: thx
[03:05] <daviscostel> ok if u format all data on hardrive
[03:05] <JeevesBond> gore_: I use nocotine, is that what you mean? The soulseek client for Linux
[03:05] <daviscostel> i want to keep a ntf partition
[03:05] <gore_> yup thanks
[03:05] <prammy> freaky_: did you try going to Sysyem -> Preferences ->Screen Resolution and increasing the res from there ?
[03:06] <Sukitoto> hi
[03:06] <zcat[1] > never managed to resize an ntfs partition yet. that annoys me. I know plenty of people do it so it must only be me :)
[03:06] <ompaul> !dualboot > daviscostel
[03:06] <prammy> freaky_: you can also type text I think at the boot prompt to start installation in text mode
[03:06] <sktx> gore_,  nicotine is the linux replacement.. i like it better actually, has a few options that the original client doesn't have
[03:06] <Yagisan> any cmake users here today ?
[03:06] <dmizer> zcat[1]  you can do it easily with knoppix and qtparted.
[03:06] <freaky_> prammy: sure, but the problem is there's only one res there (640x480) so i can't, tried to find somewhere to change the monitor spec, but couldn't find such a thing
[03:07] <JeevesBond> The interface for Nicotine is nicer, I agree sktx
[03:07] <freaky_> think the issue is with the monitor detect and/or failsafe. perhaps it couldn't identify the monitor and therefore doesn't let me increase the res
[03:07] <daviscostel> so dual boot
[03:07] <zcat[1] > dmizer: you're supposed to be able to do it with the regular installer.. except i always get a tiny 8M slice instead of whatever I asked for...
[03:07] <daviscostel> boots Windows then ubuntu?
[03:07] <BWF89> i found the page of the cd I was talking about http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[03:07] <daviscostel> or?
[03:07] <thomaswebb> hi, trying to compile latest version of gnubiff, but i get this error: No package 'gamin' found, but gamin is installed
[03:07] <JeevesBond> daviscostel: No it allows you to have both OS' on your computer at the same time
[03:08] <daviscostel> i had them without that bot
[03:08] <dmizer> zcat[1]  ... i've never had to use the partitioner that comes with the ubuntu install cd.
[03:08] <R3linquish3r> could anyone help me with a problem i'm having with one of my CD's?
[03:08] <JeevesBond> But they are seperate. Linux can see ntfs partitions but Windows cannot see Linux partitions
[03:08] <daviscostel> ye i made them in Windows with PArtition MAgic
[03:08] <freaky_> JeevesBond: it can with software
[03:08] <Frogzoo> freaky_: sounds like you need to spec horizsync & vertrefresh in xorg.conf
[03:08] <Frogzoo> !fixres > freaky_
[03:08] <zcat[1] > it does a good job making new partitions... '
[03:09] <JeevesBond> freaky_: Be quiet, am being rude about Windows here! ;)
[03:09] <prammy> freaky_: another option for you is to run the install in text mode and then see if the monitor rates are detected correctly. If not, then manually change the xorg.conf to reflect the monitor info. Not the greatest solution but it will get stuff installed for you.
[03:09] <zcat[1] > I'm fast reaching the point where I just won't support windows at all... too frustrating.
[03:09] <Frogzoo> JeevesBond: the winext2 drivers let's windows read ext2/3
[03:09] <dmizer> RQ: moz plugger plays the video, but it's very choppy.
[03:09] <freaky_> JeevesBond: :D
[03:09] <R3linquish3r> for some reason my CD drive cant read my 4th KOTOR disk. it works fine in windows though. it shows that the disk is empty and I cant figure out why......
[03:09] <JeevesBond> !fixres > JeevesBond
[03:09] <Frogzoo> !winext2
[03:09] <ubotu> I know nothing about winext2
[03:09] <Frogzoo> booo
[03:09] <JeevesBond> My point is it can't do it natively
[03:10] <freaky_> JeevesBond: ? what's that fixres stuff?
[03:10] <Frogzoo> JeevesBond: a driver's not native?!
[03:10] <Hexidigital_> fix resolution
[03:10] <Frogzoo> !fixres
[03:10] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:10] <prammy> well this is during the install phase btw
[03:10] <prammy> not post install
[03:10] <Sukitoto> anybody know what best config for a copperhead mouse would be?
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> for some reason my CD drive cant read my 4th KOTOR disk. it works fine in windows though. it shows that the disk is empty and I cant figure out why......
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> anyone have any iedas?
[03:11] <prammy> R3linquish3r: no idea but kotor 1 or 2 ?
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> 1
[03:11] <jpgvietnam> hi
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> all 3 other disks are read
[03:11] <Davo_Dinkum>  R3linquish3r: im PMing you
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> and the 4th one is read in windows
[03:11] <prammy> R3linquish3r: ya i like that game too .. kotor 2 was extremely boring
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> havent gotten it yet
[03:11] <Frogzoo> R3linquish3r: is there a device for it in /dev ?
[03:11] <R3linquish3r> heard the story line sucked
[03:11] <prammy> save yourself the money
[03:12] <prammy> its BORING
[03:12] <prammy> kotor 1 had a captivating story line
[03:12] <JeevesBond> Anyway, as much as am addicted to chatting in this place am hank marvin
[03:12] <R3linquish3r> Frogzoo: yeah the cdrom is mounted. it recognizes the first 3 disks fine
[03:12] <JeevesBond> See you all later
[03:12] <R3linquish3r> Davey_Dinkum: OK
[03:13] <daviscostel> Fuck i go for Windows
[03:13] <daviscostel> bye all
[03:13] <Stardog> guys... having problems installing ATI drivers on my dapper.... it doesn't work.....
[03:13] <PornoTheraphy> 9500 or lower?
[03:13] <Frogzoo> daviscostel: it's a point of view....
[03:13] <prammy> Stardog: what is the problem ?
[03:13] <RQ> dmizer, at least it workds
[03:13] <RQ> works
[03:13] <thomaswebb> daviscostel, it is all a matter of choice
[03:14] <thomaswebb> oh well
[03:14] <RQ> plus, it lets you view pdfs vithout adobe reader
[03:14] <prammy> Stardog: you getting a lot of errors when you do glxinfo ?
[03:14] <dmizer> RQ: that's a matter of opinion.
[03:14] <dmizer> lol
[03:14] <PornoTheraphy> Stardog, are you a 9500 ati or older?
[03:14] <Frogzoo> R3linquish3r: hmm... is this running under wine? have you checked appdb?
[03:14] <Stardog> prammy: yes
[03:14] <Stardog> PornoTheraphy:  9200
[03:14] <PornoTheraphy> like mine
[03:14] <PornoTheraphy> w8
[03:14] <Zambezi> Which do you prefer? Vsftpd or glftpd?
[03:14] <thomaswebb> i wonder if someone could help me with my dependency problem
[03:14] <prammy> Stardog: you need to get a replacement libGL.so.1.2
[03:14] <PornoTheraphy> you have to install an older driver
[03:14] <R3linquish3r> Frogzoo: Trying to install it on cedegfa. I have done it b4. But for some reason linux itself can't find anything on the 4th disk anymore
[03:15] <prammy> Stardog: there is a link to an older libGL.so.1.2 on the forums  or I can upload mine for you
[03:15] <PornoTheraphy> Stardog, what's the error you get when you do fglrxinfo?
[03:15] <hctibtipots> i cant get java to install to the correct directories
[03:15] <Stardog> prammy: can u send me the link?
[03:15] <hctibtipots> how do i install java properly?
[03:15] <dmizer> hctibtipots: easyubuntu
[03:15] <Frogzoo> !java
[03:15] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[03:15] <GNAM> !smart
[03:15] <ubotu> smart is another meta-package manager available for Ubuntu. It's quite stable, uses APT's repositories, can handle mirrors/multiple-connections, and is supposed to make Ubuntu BiArch-compatible for Edgy. See http://labix.org/smart and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SmartPackageManager
[03:15] <freaky_> strange ddcprobe nicely returns the res' the monitor is capable of
[03:16] <[1] bill> anyone know why writes to my external harddrive would be randomly failing after transfering lots of files?
[03:16] <Frogzoo> hctibtipots: there ya go: install sun-java5-jre
[03:16] <prammy> Stardog: to my copy ? You will have to search on the forums yourself since i dont have it bookmarked. But i can upload my copy for you
[03:16] <Frogzoo> [1] bill: bad cable, bad power supply, failing disk
[03:16] <Frogzoo> [1] bill: check /var/log/messages for problems
[03:16] <R3linquish3r> Davo_Dinkum: I never got a PM from you.
[03:16] <Stardog> prammy: yes please
[03:17] <jpgvietnam> why  seveas have dot green ?
[03:17] <jpgvietnam> ???
[03:17] <Seveas> jpgvietnam, because I have green hair
[03:17] <R3linquish3r> hes on op
[03:17] <RQ> :)
[03:17] <RQ> heh
[03:17] <Seveas> there, washed it
[03:18] <dmizer> lol
[03:18] <jpgvietnam> hihi ,thanks
[03:18] <R3linquish3r> Frogzoo: I have tried 2 differnet drives neither of them can read the 4th disk.
[03:18] <Frogzoo> do all ops have green hair ?
[03:18] <prammy> Stardog: I PM'd you the info
[03:18] <Frogzoo> !appdb
[03:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about appdb
[03:19] <Frogzoo> omg
[03:19] <Frogzoo> R3linquish3r: -> appdb.winehq.org   & search for help for your app
[03:19] <R3linquish3r> Frogzoo: It isnt supported on Wine. I'm using Cedega for it.
[03:19] <jpgvietnam> how old are you ,Seveas?
[03:19] <R3linquish3r> but i'll try there
[03:19] <Seveas> jpgvietnam, that's not important
[03:20] <Frogzoo> ubotu appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:20] <Seveas> !appdb is <reply> Appdb is a database of apps & help for programs that run under wine: see http://appdb.winehq.org
[03:20] <ubotu> I'll remember that
[03:20] <Frogzoo> Seveas: thx
[03:20] <Rotlaus> How can i setup a graphical remote login from one ubuntu machine to another ubuntu machine? I have already ssh access.
[03:20] <jpgvietnam> i am male and 21
[03:20] <jpgvietnam> i am student
[03:20] <jpgvietnam> and you ?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> jpgvietnam: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <mc__> jpgvietnam, no one wants to know that
[03:20] <Frogzoo> jpgvietnam: wrong chan dude
[03:20] <Seveas> jpgvietnam, this is not a talk channel but a support channel
[03:21] <RQ> Rotlaus, configure gdm
[03:21] <thomaswebb> could i have a quick piece of support?
[03:21] <Stardog> PornoTheraphy: can I pm u with that info?
[03:21] <jpgvietnam> sorry
[03:21] <freaky_> hmmz i though 1 + 1 would always be 2. but booting the livecd the first time gave me only 640x480, the second boot now gives me 1280x1024
[03:22] <PornoTheraphy> Stardog, sure
[03:22] <wilfredH> is it possible to remove the pcmcia stuff from my desktop box?
[03:22] <PornoTheraphy> Stardog,  is it api entry error?
[03:22] <jpgvietnam> yes ,we will talk about ubuntu Linux
[03:22] <jpgvietnam> ^^
[03:22] <Rotlaus> RQ: I've enabled XDMCP in the gdm.conf and restrted gdm, but when i try to connect with rdesktop ist denies the connection
[03:22] <stgraber> freaky_: strange :)
[03:22] <Lynoure> What's the best way to get productively involved with Ubuntu project, BTW?
[03:23] <freaky_> stgraber: yea, and if i'd change the boot parameters or something... but i didn't do jack*
[03:23] <RQ> Rotlaus, don't use rdesktop for that
[03:23] <RQ> use gdm
[03:23] <RQ> ;)
[03:23] <Lynoure> I'd like to help somehow, but so far all I've done is answering random questions on irc and reporting bugs I have happened to run into
[03:23] <PornoTheraphy> Stardog, i gotta eat something or else i die... pm me and i help you
[03:23] <dmizer> Rotlaus: what are you using to try to connect?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: there are many way to be involved in Ubuntu. thats  a good start
[03:23] <Rotlaus> dmizer: rdesktop
[03:24] <slonnik> does anyone use SynCE ?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> um let me see if i can find you the page Lynoure
[03:24] <Jemt> Greetz. What DC++ client does Ubuntu use ?
[03:24] <hctibtipots> i cant find java in the synaptic package manager anywhere
[03:24] <Rotlaus> RQ: How? Not sure what u mean...
[03:24] <Jemt> I need the name of it
[03:24] <Jemt> !tell Jemt about DC++
[03:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about DC++
[03:24] <nbjayme> hello, what could be causing "Failed to Initialize HAL!"?  what should be done?
[03:24] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: ok, what's a good way to continue? :)
[03:24] <RQ> Rotlaus, wait, i'm looking ;)
[03:24] <mc__> how smart should one be to become a MOTU?
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: giv eme a min im looking for a site for you
[03:24] <RQ> Rotlaus, there used to be a separate prog that runs X client inside a window
[03:25] <Frogzoo> R3linquish3r: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=3115
[03:25] <Frogzoo> hctibtipots: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[03:25] <Frogzoo> !multiverse
[03:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[03:25] <Rotlaus> RQ: which one?
[03:25] <mc__> !easysource > mc__
[03:26] <RQ> Rotlaus, wait
[03:26] <wilfredH> can anyone tell me if I can remove the pcmcia stuff on my ubuntu install? I'm not running it on a laptop so it's useless.
[03:27] <RQ> Rotlaus, probably easiest is to run a separate gdm login, and choose remote login there.
[03:27] <hctibtipots> Frogzoo:how would i do that???
[03:27] <RQ> or something
[03:27] <Sub> wilfredH, yes you can.
[03:27] <Frogzoo> wilfredH: why not just disable the pcmcia startup scripts?
[03:27] <RQ> Rotlaus, sorry, i don;t
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Lynoure: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[03:27] <RQ> i don't have that configured here
[03:27] <Jemt> Can someone tell me which DC++ client Ubuntu has installed? I need the name of it
[03:27] <Sub> Frogzoo, itz easier just to remove the pcmcia packages.
[03:28] <RQ> Jemt, dcgui2, i think
[03:28] <Frogzoo> hctibtipots: see ubotu ^^^
[03:28] <Sub> Jemt, get "linuxdcpp" if you want a good dc++ client
[03:28] <hctibtipots> nah fuck ubuntu...
[03:28] <thomaswebb> i cna still not install this peice of software because i cannot understand how to tell the configuration tool that gamin is installed, any help would be much appreciated
[03:28] <Frogzoo> Sub: sometimes removing stuff breaks things, so I always recommend testing
[03:28] <Sub> the others arent as good, youll need to compile it from cvs though Jemt
[03:28] <Jemt> RQ: Ah, ok. Bugger. Same I'm using, but it sucks. Do you know of a simple client? I only need to be able to connect and download a few Linux distros on a LAN Party
[03:29] <Frogzoo> hctibtipots: seems to be a common thread today
[03:29] <Sub> Frogzoo, well I've removed mine with no issues.
[03:29] <Jemt> Sub: Hey, great. I'll check that one out - thanks :)
[03:29] <Lynoure> gnomefreak: thank you :)
[03:29] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:29] <RQ> Jemt, well i compiled wulfor for myself/
[03:29] <RQ> but it crashes too often
[03:29] <RQ> WAY too often
[03:29] <hctibtipots> ive been tryin for 2 days now to install java
[03:29] <Jemt> RQ: Hm, ok, thanks
[03:30] <Sub> RQ, use linuxdcpp , its like a 1:! clone of the offical DC++ client.
[03:30] <snedar> hi! does anyone know whether this keyboard will work in ubuntu: http://www.mycom.nl/MyCom/Store/productdetailedinfo.do?productID=97527&productType=1
[03:30] <Sub> hctibtipots, it's quite simple
[03:30] <dmizer> hctibtipots ... try easyubuntu.
[03:30] <Sub> if you use EU
[03:30] <Sub> !easyubuntu
[03:30] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[03:30] <wilfredH> how would I go about disabling them?
[03:30] <RQ> Sub, hm
[03:30] <gnomefreak> hctibtipots: enable multiverse repo than sudo apt-get install sun-java-jre
[03:30] <Sub> wilfredH, just do "sudo apt-get remove pcmciad " i think
[03:30] <RQ> Sub, what's the name of its window? :D
[03:30] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:31] <Sub> RQ, cuz wulfor and valknut suck
[03:31] <uep> i'd like to do development/fix bugs with compiz/xorg, but i couldn't get it setup
[03:31] <hctibtipots> how do you enable multiverse repo???
[03:31] <snedar> java is officially in the ubuntu repos now, isn't it?
[03:31] <uep> does anybody know a good resource to learn how to build it (not just a means of install)
[03:31] <Sub> RQ, oh fuck lol wulfor reloaded
[03:31] <Frogzoo> snedar: yes
[03:31] <Sub> i got wulfor mixed up with dcgui lol
[03:31] <RQ> Sub,  :D
[03:31] <RQ> hahahah
[03:31] <Lynoure> !language
[03:31] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[03:31] <jujuman> oooobuntoooooo
[03:31] <RQ> Sub, exactly. I have wulfor reloaded too :)
[03:31] <snedar> Frogzoo: was that answer about java? (I was asking about keyboards too :-)
[03:31] <Sub> <- nub.
[03:32] <RQ> Sub, it looks great. but it crashes way too often
[03:32] <Hakker> hmm question I want to extract phpmyadmin from a client install to /var/www but I somehow haven't got the rights (using login info created during the install) how can that login not be superuser and how can I make a superuser
[03:32] <wilfredH> no good. If I could just disable it at startup that would be good
[03:32] <Sub> RQ, i compiled this from cvs again about 2-3 days ago and its been great.
[03:32] <Sub> wilfredH, why is that no good?
[03:32] <RQ> Sub, hmm, maybe i should update then
[03:32] <RQ> :)
[03:33] <Frogzoo> snedar: what's special about the keyboard makes you think it could be a problem? even at the worst, you can always remap a few keys
[03:33] <Sub> wilfredH, if it asks to remove "ubuntu-desktop" or something, dont worry, itz just a meta package and wont remove anything.
[03:33] <RQ> Hakker, sudo -s
[03:33] <wilfredH> sub: that was exactly my problem
[03:33] <Sub> wilfredH, you can remove it
[03:33] <snedar> Frogzoo: I don't know, it's from Microsoft... :-) but remapping works with about every keyboard?
[03:33] <Sub> !package ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <ubotu> I know nothing about package ubuntu-desktop
[03:33] <wilfredH> ok
[03:33] <Xgates> say anyone know how to fix this: --->  waiting for X server to shut down FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.
[03:33] <Sub> wilfredH, that package is almost a list of other packages, it is safe to remove it.
[03:34] <AB3I> !home folder
[03:34] <ubotu> I know nothing about home folder
[03:34] <Frogzoo> snedar: is this a USB kb? wireless keyboards can have driver issues but anything USB should be fine
[03:35] <Sub> snedar, i use a foriegn MS keyboard.
[03:35] <wilfredH> sub: to be removed: ubuntu-base, ubuntu-minimal
[03:35] <Sub> !package ubuntu-base
[03:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about package ubuntu-base
[03:35] <AB3I> hmmm, Ok guys I have a really dumb question. I accidentally removed the konqueror button for my home folder from my kde taskbar. Any suggestions on replacing it? I cant find that particular application in the menus to add it back
[03:35] <snedar> Frogzoo: okay, thanks, I'm going to buy a PS/2 keyboard, don't want to have driver problems
[03:35] <Sub> >:-(
[03:35] <Sub> wilfredH, look it up in synaptic. the description states they are safe to remvoe.
[03:36] <wilfredH> sub: I'm in synaptic. Can I get to leave those packages alone?
[03:36] <Kibou> go get a real keyboard.. like a model m or something
[03:36] <Sub> AB3I, maybe that could be better answered in #kubuntu
[03:36] <AB3I> thanks sub
[03:36] <Sub> wilfredH, no, they are safe to remove.
[03:36] <Sub> snedar, are you sure you are using the right keymap yes?
[03:37] <wilfredH> sub, will it just not remove them then?
[03:37] <Hakker> (RQ): ok that makes it possible to login as root but if I try it in the login screen it doesn't work and still keeps part 2 open how can I make hakker (username created during installl) a superuser?
[03:37] <mc__> !cedega > mcp__
[03:37] <mc__> !cedega > mc__
[03:37] <jujuman> what african language is the word ubuntu from
[03:37] <RQ> Hakker, you want hakker to have root rights?
[03:37] <Sub> wilfredH, they are meta-packages. packages with lists of packahes . so removing the "list" (or in this case ubuntu-base) doesnt actually remove anything
[03:37] <slonnik> hmm does any one use synce ?
[03:38] <Hakker> (RQ): yeah else I can't seem to work decently with it
[03:38] <RQ> Hakker, no, you don't want that :)
[03:38] <RQ> what do you mean by "work decently"
[03:38] <Frogzoo> snedar: I did find this googling however: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000A6PPOK/104-0064469-6504702
[03:38] <igcek> re, can anybody tell me how to check my uptime?
[03:38] <Sub> wilfredH "sudo apt-get remove pcmciad" will be perfectly safe to do.
[03:38] <snedar> Sub: I haven't bought a new one yet. I probably won't have any keymap problems, because everything is US intl here.
[03:38] <Frogzoo> snedar: "FOR THOSE WISHING TO USE THIS KEYBOARD FOR MULTIPLE OS's SUCH AS LINUX ETC, CAVAET EMPTOR!
[03:39] <Frogzoo> Unfortunately, when I took the keyboard home, I found out like many THAT THIS KEYBOARD IS NOT PS2 COMPATIBLE - EVEN WITH A USB TO PS2 ADAPTER! "
[03:39] <robertj> hey all, can someone tell me what problems fsck prevents?
[03:39] <Smjor> igcek, in terminal write "uptime"
[03:39] <wilfredH> ok, removing now...
[03:39] <snedar> Frogzoo: thanks, that site looks useful (I never really used amazon)
[03:39] <snedar> I think I'll just go for a cheap wired PS/2 keyboard
[03:39] <Sub> robertj, none, it just tells you about problems you can get,
[03:39] <Sub> you have *
[03:40] <Hakker> (RQ): well extract files in the www dir... setting up ftp with the client (later on) importing databases etc
[03:40] <robertj> Sub: anything that's not available via smart?
[03:40] <Frogzoo> snedar: oh, the problem apparently was it wouldn't work with a kvm was all
[03:40] <wilfredH> sub, thx for your help
[03:40] <RQ> Hakker, well you either do that with "root" user, or you add yourself to an appropriate group
[03:40] <RQ> i.e., www-data in case of /var/www, i think
[03:41] <MisterN> hi
[03:42] <Sub> robertj, smart is also just a monitoring app, nothing "prevents" issues, they can just help you prepare for them (smart) or help fix them (fsck) when they occur.
[03:42] <gore_> anyone here use starterbar?
[03:42] <robertj> Sub: I meant in the wider sense of "It informs of you issue X which you wouldn't otherwise know of"
[03:44] <BCK14> how do i open port 80 in iptables?
[03:44] <Sub> robertj, well in that case, smart monitors the actual raw disks, so a complete failure of the drive is what that will notice, fsck monitors actual partitons, so if a partition corrupts but the hdd itself is okay then fsck will pick that up when smart wouldnt.
[03:45] <RQ> ;)
[03:45] <robertj> Sub: I thought the whole idea behind journaling fs's is that partition's weren't supposed to become corrupt
[03:46] <Stardog_> [0x90] : did u get my errormsg?
[03:46] <Rotlaus> RQ: it worked. On the gdm on the locale machine i could log in on the remote machine
[03:46] <[0x90] > no Stardog
[03:46] <[0x90] > pm me
[03:46] <Stardog_> [0x90] : ehm.... doesn seem that i can pm u :/
[03:46] <RQ> Rotlaus, congratulations :)
[03:46] <[0x90] > ah
[03:47] <[0x90] > was it an API ENTRY error?
[03:47] <Rotlaus> RQ, thanks for your help
[03:47] <RQ> you're welvome
[03:47] <Sub> robertj, yes thats true but say u mount your ext3 in windows it will be mounted as ext2 (no journalling) so therefore you can still get corruptions
[03:47] <RQ> *welcome
[03:47] <Stardog_> yes
[03:47] <[0x90] > so you have to install an older driver
[03:48] <[0x90] > look, join channel ppppp
[03:48] <robertj> Sub: I think that's rare enough that sticking at 15 minute fsck into every 30th boot isn't justified :(
[03:48] <Hakker> (RQ): I added hakker to GID www-data but I still can't extract files to there
[03:48] <jujuman> http://jewsdidwtc.com/
[03:48] <mamu> how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd?
[03:48] <[1] bill> robertj: its justified.  I would have noticed my harddrive was failing alot sooner if it would have been more often
[03:48] <RQ> Hakker, you need to relogin
[03:48] <RQ> or
[03:48] <Stardog_> [0x90] : do you have a link to a site where i can do this?
[03:49] <mamu> hi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd?
[03:49] <[0x90] > yes
[03:49] <[0x90] > wget http://www.ground-impact.com/libGL.so.1.2
[03:49] <robertj> [1] bill: or within an hour or so if the smart notification let you know via gui
[03:49] <RQ> Hakker, or try `sudo -su hakker`
[03:49] <[0x90] > then do sudo cp libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[03:49] <[1] bill> robertj,  By the time I started getting errors I had lost half the harddisk.
[03:49] <[1] bill> robertj, the fsck errors started earlier, I just didn't really notice them
[03:49] <robertj> [1] bill: I'm sorry to hear about that. If your disk supported smart (and the vast majority do) it would have let you know very quickly
[03:49] <[0x90] > when you finish doing it, type fglrxinfo on the console and show me the output
[03:49] <Sub> robertj, better safe than sorry :P
[03:49] <[1] bill> robertj: it does, and it was enabled =)
[03:50] <Hakker> try the relog first ;)
[03:50] <frank_b> how can I edit a PDF file I donwloaded?
[03:50] <robertj> [1] bill: but no imnotify hook for it :(
[03:50] <[0x90] > Stardog_,  done?
[03:50] <mamu> hi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd, i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs?
[03:50] <Stardog_> one sec
[03:50] <[0x90] > ok
[03:50] <Sub> robertj, last time my hdd failed, smart told me 3 days before :O i got a new drive arrive ON THE TEC DATE, luckilu got it all over, failed about 2 hours later.
[03:51] <Sub> errors all over the shop then
[03:51] <MtJB> i have been to the wronge end of the galaxy, and to no avail, i might add.  i need libslang-utf8 in order to play the dropteam MP demo just released, and yet, i cannot. what justice?
[03:51] <robertj> Sub: what did fsck tell you?
[03:51] <mamu> hi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd? i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs :(
[03:51] <Stardog_> [0x90] : done
[03:51] <[0x90] > worked?
[03:51] <jujuman> http://jewsdidwtc.com/
[03:51] <jujuman> http://jewsdidwtc.com/
[03:51] <jujuman> http://jewsdidwtc.com/
[03:51] <jujuman> http://jewsdidwtc.com/
[03:51] <uep> lol
[03:51] <MtJB> may i kill jujuman
[03:51] <Seveas> MtJB, too late
[03:51] <Seveas> I was hungry
[03:51] <MtJB> i think a meat hook through his head would be nice
[03:51] <Stardog_> [0x90] :  i love u %D
[03:52] <Sub> robertj, no i booted into windows to do the swap, and chkdisk gave me loads of crap.
[03:52] <[0x90] > hehe
[03:52] <Stardog_> thx mate
[03:52] <[0x90] > Stardog_,  i had the same problem xD
[03:52] <mamu> hi, how to install ubuntu in non-graphical mode from cd? i am not able to install from graphical mode, my system hangs :(
[03:52] <SeanTater> What libs do I need for qt (i need it for compiling)
[03:52] <[0x90] > i took weeks to find out what was wrong
[03:52] <gnomefreak> mamu: from the alternative cd
[03:52] <[0x90] > now save the file and save the instructions ;)
[03:52] <gnomefreak> alternate cd even
[03:53] <_stev_> can I have different window managers when I switch from workspace?
[03:53] <robertj> Sub: my position is that we will catch 99.9% of the people before + lots of additional people if we switch over to nixing the scheduled fsck's and going to user-friendly SMART monitoring
[03:53] <gnomefreak> SeanTater: depends on what your compiling but a good start would be libqt3-mt and libqt3-mt-dev
[03:53] <Stardog_> [0x90] : a lot of user had it... but I couldnt see on forums how they fixed it.... but thanks... this did the trick
[03:53] <kurzer> hi all
[03:53] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: I;m compiling the kde xpenguins applet
[03:54] <SeanTater> gnomefreak: I'll start with those
[03:54] <[0x90] > hehe no problem :)
[03:54] <kurzer> how can i mount a hdb with ntfs ?
[03:54] <Sub> !ntfs
[03:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:54] <[0x90] > i wanna be an radeon 9200 driver installer professional :f
[03:54] <kurzer> !ntfs
[03:54] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[03:54] <mamu> gonmefreak:My system hangs when the manual partition screen comes up. Is there any word around for this?
[03:54] <sonics> where i can set up programs to auto load after booting up in dapper?
[03:54] <[0x90] > init.d
[03:54] <Sub> robertj, tell the developers then :D  -me, i think raid 1 will just become more standard.
[03:54] <[0x90] > sonics,  /etc/init.d
[03:54] <robertj> Sub: aint' gonna happen
[03:55] <sonics> tnx
[03:55] <kurzer> thx !
[03:55] <gnomefreak> mamu: not that i have run into assuming your using the desktop cd
[03:55] <robertj> Sub: it's an additional expense with little benefit because most users don't care about their data enough to even back it up to DVD
[03:55] <frank_b> how can I edit a PDF file I donwloaded?
[03:55] <robertj> Sub: it's a great benefit to people who _do_ but those people will get RAID now if they want it
[03:56] <sloncho> LVM2 question. I have lvm2 volumes on the machine (created before I installed dapper). I can read and use them from knoppix and suse. dapper uses rhem as well, but it displays errors in the log, and I'm woried.
[03:56] <Yagisan> anyone here tried to cmakify a non-trivial application ? cmake is complaining about not finding my includes, even though they are specified.
[03:56] <mamu> gnoemfreak: i am trying to install 6.06 from live cd.
[03:56] <[1] bill> robertj: I will agree the smart monitoring needs to be better.
[03:56] <sloncho> vgscan reports IO error for every logical volume. upon mounting, there is also IO errors in the log
[03:56] <Ries> Hey all, what can I do to not enter sudo always before any administrative command?
[03:56] <Mortis_kruuul> http://avemetal.com - The Kingdom of Music ;)
[03:57] <gnomefreak> mamu: download the alternate cd and install it from that
[03:57] <[1] bill> the stuff in the logs is rather cryptic I'm afraid
[03:57] <robertj> [1] bill: 99.9% of people don't read logs
[03:57] <mamu> gnoemfreak: thanks
[03:57] <Sub> robertj, well still, developers dont comb the irc chans for ideas, the idea of the linux community is contribution, go find a way to post suggestions.
[03:58] <robertj> I'm just trying to ferment my ideas here
[03:58] <[0x90] > robertj, 70% of statistics are incorrect
[03:58] <[1] bill> robertj: well I mean, I saw a few smart messages on the console, but it couldn't tell me what they were saying.  It wasn't WARNING HARDDRIVE IN ANGER, it was, unknown msg or what not
[03:58] <ome> Anyone know if theres a program to map keys to mouse buttons?
[03:58] <[1] bill> robertj: I'm assuming they were smart messages, they could have been kernel messages. Its definately not obvious what they are.
[03:58] <robertj> well if your getting kernel messages your pretty much already screwed usually
[03:59] <[1] bill> I don't remember what messages they were
[03:59] <[1] bill> but if its generally known that your screwed
[03:59] <[1] bill> there needs to be a big warning box that says WARNING: harddrive screwe!
[03:59] <robertj> [1] bill: but sometimes it's just generic input error and then it would be 'WARNING: You are screwed. Take your computer to an expert or buy a new one."
[03:59] <gnomefreak> that would lead to people panicing
[04:00] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[04:00] <[1] bill> well something better then generic input error would be good
[04:00] <robertj> sometimes thats all you got
[04:00] <Frogzoo> ome: you just trying to get additional mouse buttons recognised?
[04:01] <ome> well im sure that would be first step. I want to assign keyboard keys to certain buttons
[04:03] <RQ> hm
[04:03] <Ries> what is gforge ?? it seems that it installs a very old version of postgresql... is that specially made for ubuntu?
[04:03] <Minsc37> Hello all
[04:03] <RQ> hi Minsc37
[04:03] <Hakker> (RQ): well relog won't help and sodu -su hakker create a /bin/bash error
[04:04] <RQ> hmm
[04:04] <RQ> Hakker, how did you add yourself to the group?
[04:04] <longkerdandy> hi, i'm using the xchat-gnome, but i don't know how to active the spelling check
[04:04] <Hakker> system-users and groups part
[04:04] <Hakker> select www-data add hakker
[04:04] <RQ> oh, through gui. OK
[04:04] <Minsc37> Has anyone experienced/fixed that infinite sound loop (the drumbeat) at the gdm login screen? I can log in okay, but then it stalls before loading the desktop, and I'm forced to restart the whole computer
[04:05] <Hakker> r1 yeah die-hard windows dude on linux here ;)
[04:05] <RQ> Hakker, ls -la /var/www
[04:05] <Sukitoto> anybody using a razor copperhead mouse?
[04:05] <RQ> paste the line with /var/www here
[04:06] <RQ> Hakker, or simply /exec -o ls -l /var/www |head -1
[04:06] <Frogzoo> ome: give this a go: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16936 if this doesn't work, you'll need to take a look at the evdev driver
[04:06] <morphix> hmm..
[04:07] <Hakker> total 12
[04:07] <morphix> i tried using a XGL guide.
[04:07] <Frogzoo> Sukitoto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RazerCopperheadmouse
[04:07] <morphix> but it doesnt work
[04:07] <RQ> Hakker, oops
[04:07] <morphix> i get an error saying cannot find screen.
[04:07] <Hakker> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 date
[04:07] <RQ> Hakker, or simply /exec -o ls -l /var/www |head -2
[04:07] <Hakker> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 date
[04:07] <RQ> i need the second line
[04:07] <RQ> oh
[04:07] <RQ> darn
[04:07] <RQ> wait
[04:07] <Hakker> and one with 2 and apache2-default in the end
[04:08] <RQ> Hakker, i need ls -la indeed :/
[04:08] <RQ>  /exec -o ls -la /var/www |head -2
[04:08] <RQ> sorry :)
[04:08] <finalbeta> Just installed XQF for ET. When I start ET it crashes. How can I debug this? ET starts fine by itself.
[04:08] <ome> k thanks
[04:09] <RQ> Hakker, ?
[04:09] <Hakker> ./exec: no such file or directory
[04:09] <Hakker> minus the .
[04:10] <kingruedi> i compiled my own kernel with make-kpkg and installed it without a problem. When I try to boot the kernel it is uncompressed and boots. But after the Kernel "Uncompressed Message" when ubuntu normally switches to the init.d stuff the screen turns black and nothing happenes
[04:10] <RQ> Hakker, you're supposed to execute that as an xchat command :D
[04:10] <RQ> HERE
[04:10] <RQ> ;] 
[04:10] <Minsc37> Truly, has no one had that sound loop problem? This is the second time it's happened to me in my experiences with Ubuntu, if I remember correctly
[04:10] <kingruedi> what's wrong with the kernel? maybe fdev support broken?
[04:11] <Hakker> -o invalid option
[04:11] <axisme> hm, anyone managed to get dri working with an i915?
[04:11] <RQ> doh
[04:11] <Hakker> btw the machine isn't in chat ;)
[04:11] <Frogzoo> ome: also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto
[04:11] <RQ> ok then just paste the line which says about /var/www permissions
[04:12] <RQ> ls -l /var |grep www
[04:12] <finalbeta> Just installed XQF for ET. When I start ET it crashes. How can I debug this? ET starts fine by itself.
[04:12] <boci^> hi
[04:12] <boci^> anybody use muddleftpd?
[04:13] <Hakker> drwxe-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-06-30 20:02 www
[04:13] <RQ> Hakker, ok.
[04:13] <Hakker> minus that e ;)
[04:13] <Hakker> typo's ftw
[04:13] <Tommy2k4> when will the new OOo version be in the repositories
[04:14] <RQ> hakker, sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www
[04:14] <RQ> sudo chmod -R g+w www-data
[04:14] <RQ> you can ommit "-R" in the second command
[04:16] <Gazo> anyone know the fix for "unable to create filesystem" on install of 6.06 ? Tried to different machines .. both the same thing ... stops at 15%
[04:16] <Gazo> to=two :P
[04:17] <Hakker> shouldn't www-data be /var/www ?
[04:17] <LTjake> Hey all. I'm running Xgl+compiz, which seems to be working, except that i'm getting a warning: "compiz.real: No XKB extension" any ideas?
[04:17] <RQ> Hakker, eh?
[04:17] <RQ> Gazo, reburn your cd or so
[04:17] <Hakker> well I get no such file or directory ;)
[04:18] <RQ> Hakker, oh, right
[04:18] <RQ> sudo chmod g+w /var/www
[04:18] <Gazo> the cd verifies ok ... its gotta be an ubuntu installer thing
[04:18] <RQ> :)
[04:18] <wubunutuabi> Hi guys, I have been trying to install Diva on ubuntu because I heard someone else had success with it. It's telling me I need a higher version of GTK+ (2.8 to be exact) but I can't figure out how to do that because synaptic only has up GTK 2.1 or something
[04:18] <RQ> my mistake
[04:18] <wubunutuabi> I have gotten scons and the installer working but I need that dependency
[04:18] <Hakker> -R is an illegal option
[04:18] <Seveas> wubunutuabi, Ubuntu uses gtk2.8...
[04:19] <Hakker> sudo g+w /var/www = command not found
[04:19] <RQ> wubunutuabi, sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev
[04:19] <Hakker> so i'm screwing things up again ;)
[04:19] <RQ> Hakker, you're not. :)
[04:19] <RQ> I am :)
[04:19] <wubunutuabi> oh i'm sorry ... i meant glib
[04:19] <Blaskowitz> hi all, how would you go about copying a file from another computer via the net, to my comp (ie from another unix session)?
[04:19] <Hakker> ah K that a change for a time ;)
[04:19] <kenneho> I'm having troubles getting Natilus to burn a DVD. When the burn process is about to start, an error message pops up saying that some files are having erroneous names. How can I fix this?
[04:19] <RQ> Hakker, you don't necessaryly need -R in the second command
[04:19] <wubunutuabi> glib 2.8.5
[04:19] <RQ> (sorry for my typos)
[04:19] <hakanw_> I'm administrating a server... if I want only me to be able to do sudo stuff, how do I configure the visudo file?
[04:19] <gnomefreak> F12: was tehre a reason why you ctcp'ed me?
[04:19] <Gorlist> Hi,
[04:20] <Seveas> !find libglib
[04:20] <ubotu> Found: libglib-perl, libglib1.2, libglib1.2-dbg, libglib1.2-dev, libglib2.0-cil (and 11 others)
[04:20] <gnomefreak> s/tehre/there
[04:20] <RQ> wubunutuabi, libglib2.0-dev
[04:20] <Gorlist> Ubuntu comes with Openoffice 2.0 installed
[04:20] <Gorlist> how can I upgrade it to 2.3?
[04:20] <wubunutuabi> ok
[04:20] <Gorlist> does not appear on the package manager!
[04:20] <Hakker> ok I think I got it missed the chmod line ... lemme check it now
[04:20] <wubunutuabi> thanks i'll try that
[04:20] <RQ> Gorlist, there's no OOo 2.3 yet
[04:20] <Gorlist> 2.03 perhaps ? :)
[04:21] <RQ> Hakker, sudo chmod g+w /var/www
[04:21] <Gorlist> 2.02 is installed at the moment
[04:21] <RQ> sudo chgrp -R www-data /var/www
[04:21] <RQ> Gorlist, 2.03 maybe
[04:21] <Gorlist> and theirs a newer one on the OOO website
[04:21] <wubunutuabi> I get this error when I try to open synaptic ... Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file
[04:21] <RQ> if it's not in dapper updates, then just wait for it :)
[04:21] <Gorlist> on Synaptic Package Manager only 2.02 is avaliable?
[04:21] <wubunutuabi> I'm not even sure what happened
[04:21] <kenneho> Must I use another burn app?
[04:21] <wubunutuabi> I just woke up and now it's doing this?
[04:21] <RQ> unless you want to mess with all those repositories and stuff
[04:21] <gnomefreak> Gorlist: noone knows where its gonna end up yet
[04:21] <Gorlist> how do you mean?
[04:22] <Hakker> wheee
[04:22] <Gorlist> ah its not appearing as its not a stable release??
[04:22] <wubunutuabi> What does it mean when synaptic says "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file"
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Gorlist: the devel team hasnt decided if its gonna be in dapper
[04:22] <RQ> wubunutuabi, duno
[04:22] <RQ> ;)
[04:22] <Gorlist> dapper...? sorry new to linux!
[04:22] <Ries> what could this mean, when I try to install apache2?   gforge-db-postgresql: Depends: gforge-common but it is not going to be installed, Depends: postgresql (>= 7.1.2) but it is not going to be installed
[04:22] <Hakker> (RQ): ok so why didn't the USER and Groups part failed in doing this?
[04:22] <Blaskowitz> how do u copy a file from one unix session to another via the net?
[04:22] <wubunutuabi> Oh boy
[04:22] <Ries> I don't want to have gforge!!!!
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Gorlist: dapper = ubuntu 6.06
[04:22] <RQ> Hakker, what do you mean?
[04:23] <Hakker> well I tried to set me in that group there and it didn't work.... now it does
[04:23] <Gorlist> so they might delay it until next version of buntu?
[04:23] <RQ> Ries, you probably have packages conflicting with those that apache2 depends on
[04:23] <Gorlist> seems odd?
[04:23] <ccooke> wubunutuabi: The Xauthentication file is used to determine who is allowed to talk to your X server. If your user doesn't have the right $HOME/.Xauthority, then GUI apps won't run.
[04:23] <gnomefreak> Gorlist: we dont know yet when we know everytone will know
[04:23] <RQ> Hakker, it did work
[04:23] <gnomefreak> everyone even
[04:23] <Gorlist> ok thanks :)
[04:24] <RQ> Hakker, what you did now was changed permissions and group for /var/www
[04:24] <gore_> wow I was just using nicotine
[04:24] <gore_> and it was eating 250mb of memory
[04:24] <ccooke> wubunutuabi: If graphical apps are working fine, it's unlikely you have a problem :-)
[04:24] <wubunutuabi> Yeah, all my other apps are fine
[04:24] <wubunutuabi> Firefox, firestarter, xchat, kalarm
[04:24] <wubunutuabi> Just synaptic?
[04:25] <wubunutuabi> If I restart will it fix itself?
[04:25] <Hakker> (RQ): well thanks for now :)
[04:25] <ccooke> wubunutuabi: does synaptic fail to start, then?
[04:25] <RQ> np
[04:25] <wubunutuabi> Yes it does sir
[04:26] <wubunutuabi> It just says "Failed to run usr/sbin/synaptic" in the title and tells me "Failed to copy users Xauthorization file"
[04:28] <Minsc37> Has anyone experienced/fixed that infinite sound loop (the drumbeat) at the gdm login screen? I can log in okay, but then it stalls before loading the desktop, and I'm forced to restart the whole computer
[04:28] <Yagisan> last try. anyone here tried to cmakify a non-trivial application ? cmake is complaining about not finding my includes, even though they are specified.
[04:29] <Bassetts> is there any reason that text is so small in FF on ubuntu
[04:29] <mMaster_hr> i have one problem, i can' t copy one file to root
[04:29] <hakanw_> how do I specify such that only one user may sudo?
[04:29] <Seveas> mMaster_hr, you should not touch things outside your homedir without knowing wht you are doing...
[04:30] <Seveas> hakanw_, by default only the user added during install may use sudo
[04:30] <mMaster_hr> but i must copy one file to install the modem driver
[04:30] <Seveas> so that's done already 
[04:30] <wubunutuabi> ccooke ... do you have any ideas?
[04:30] <hakanw_> Seveas: uhm, you sure?  this is ubuntu-server, and it seems like all new users (added with adduser) can sudo and do stuff, I think?
[04:30] <mMaster_hr> seveas, please give me your mail
[04:31] <Seveas> hakanw_, that is not a standard ubuntu install then - only users in the admin group can use sudo
[04:31] <Seveas> and no one is added to that group automatically
[04:31] <manthony121> I am having a problem with the live cd persistent mode with an Acer laptop.
[04:31] <hakanw_> Seveas: ok, then I want to change the name of the main account.  I tried chft but it didn't do anything
[04:31] <hakanw_> s/name/login
[04:31] <manthony121> If I try to use a usb stick, it hangs during boot
[04:32] <Seveas> hakanw_, edit /etc/passwd and /etc/group manually for that and hope it works
[04:32] <manthony121> and dumps me into a 'BusyBox' text mode
[04:32] <hakanw_> Seveas: is that the recommended wya too? :)
[04:32] <Seveas> manthony121, then plug in the usb stick after it's completely booted (known bug, will be fixed for edgy)
[04:32] <Seveas> hakanw_, the recommended way is not doing it
[04:32] <mMaster_hr> seveas, will you help me?
[04:32] <hakanw_> Seveas: I chose the wrong name during installation :)
[04:32] <manthony121> Seveas: didn't think of that!
[04:33] <hakanw_> it's just aestethical
[04:33] <Seveas> hakanw_, editing /etc/{passwd,group,shadow} should work
[04:33] <JP_PIALASSE> hello
[04:33] <hakanw_> Seveas: ok, thanks
[04:33] <JP_PIALASSE> i have a probleme with raki for sync pocket pc
[04:33] <Seveas> but make sure you have another admin account just in case ;)
[04:34] <JP_PIALASSE> this error: Could not start dccm or dccm has exited.
[04:34] <JP_PIALASSE> Maybe there is already a dccm running
[04:34] <mMaster_hr> seveas, help me please
[04:34] <Seveas> mMaster_hr, I have no experience with modem drivers so I cannot help you
[04:34] <hakanw_> also, is it considered normal that all users can read stuff like the apache config?
[04:34] <Seveas> hakanw_, yes
[04:34] <hakanw_> this is the first time I'm administering a system
[04:34] <mMaster_hr> i have readme file, but i can' t copy one file to a root folder
[04:35] <amortvigil> how can i best install the server edition of dapper?
[04:35] <hakanw_> ok
[04:35] <JP_PIALASSE> Seveas> any experience with pocket pc & ubuntu ?
[04:35] <Seveas> amortvigil, download server cd and boot from it 
[04:35] <Seveas> JP_PIALASSE, no
[04:35] <JP_PIALASSE> :(
[04:35] <Seveas> not rich enough to have a pocketpc 
[04:35] <[0x90] > you have pocket billiard
[04:36] <hakanw_> nice, you were right that only the main user may sudo
[04:36] <Sub> mMaster_hr,  are you sudoing cp to get it in there?
[04:36] <mMaster_hr> how i can to copy files in root folder and whixh program open *.rpm?
[04:36] <amortvigil> do you need to have a special "server cd"
[04:36] <amortvigil> ?
[04:36] <Seveas> mMaster_hr, you should be looking for ubuntu or debian instuctions for your modem...
[04:36] <Sub> mMaster_hr, "sudo cp file /root" and rpm is like .deb but for red hat based machines
[04:37] <Sub> !rpm
[04:37] <ubotu> rpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).
[04:37] <hakanw_> amortvigil: I installed the latest ubuntu-server distro using the server cd, yes
[04:37] <Seveas> amortvigil, not per se
[04:37] <mMaster_hr> i'm crying now
[04:37] <mMaster_hr> i can't connect to adsl on ubuntu
[04:38] <mMaster_hr> i don't know how
[04:38] <larson9999> new to ubuntu so i don't know but i'm curious how quickly things get put to the repository.  for instance ooo 2.03 is out now and i want to know if i should just download it from the site or wait till it hits the repositories.
[04:38] <sktx> aww don't cry mMaster_hr
[04:38] <RQ> :)))
[04:38] <RQ> mMaster_hr, ah
[04:38] <Seveas> larson9999, better wait - they are working on it
[04:39] <basvg> hi all... I just installed Skype. Calling works, but skype doesn't seem to have found my microphone
[04:39] <RQ> mMaster_hr, usb modem?
[04:39] <basvg> does anyone know how to fix this / where to start lookin'?
[04:39] <larson9999> seveas so you think in the next couple days?
[04:39] <Boobek> bye all
[04:39] <mMaster_hr> trouh network card, but you may connect on usb
[04:39] <Seveas> larson9999, I hope so but it may take longer
[04:40] <mcman> shutdown your linux and watch football! :D
[04:40] <RQ> basvg, try running "aoss skype"
[04:40] <hakanw_> really simple question, why doesn't sudo shutdown now really shutdown?
[04:40] <mMaster_hr> sry for my bad english
[04:40] <RQ> hakanw_, try sudo poweroff
[04:40] <basvg> RQ: 'aoss skype' => command not found..
[04:40] <RQ> mMaster_hr, no, network card is better
[04:40] <RQ> basvg, hmm..
[04:40] <FCTE> your English seems fine
[04:41] <RQ> basvg, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[04:41] <mMaster_hr> my adsl is connected throught net. card
[04:41] <RQ> mMaster_hr, can your modem work as a router?
[04:41] <mMaster_hr> yes
[04:41] <basvg> RQ: ok, it `knows' aoss now... let me see if this works, thanks fothe tip
[04:42] <jvcubuntu> hey, can anyone help me with gcc??
[04:42] <RQ> basvg, even if it doesn't, it's better to run it with aoss
[04:42] <RQ> mMaster_hr, then it's easiest to configure it as a router
[04:42] <FCTE> I could never get my external Creative sound to work right, it would play system sounds, but games and streamcast = no sound, it would lock up the card. I just use the onboard sound and it works great.
[04:43] <forsest> Hey - wondering how I can get the ubuntu boot splash back, after having installed and then removed xubuntu-desktop ?
[04:43] <RQ> mMaster_hr, do you know how to do that?
[04:43] <mMaster_hr> no, i'm newbie
[04:43] <jvcubuntu> does anyone use ubuntu to development?
[04:43] <pianoboy3333> Who here is using xchat-gnome? Please tell me if this bug applies to you: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/post_bug.cgi
[04:43] <kaot> hi alll, quick question:  I'm about ready to upgraded to 6.06.  Will this certainly wipe my ~/ or can that be preserved during the install?
[04:44] <FCTE> I tried to change usplash in Dapper like in Breezy and it crashed my xserver
[04:44] <RQ> mMaster_hr, read the manual for your modem. If you can set it as a router, then do this. if you cannot, you'll have to compile a nice proggy for you, or use console to get online
[04:44] <RQ> the choice is up to you
[04:44] <RQ> kaot, if you do an upgrade, it will be preserve
[04:44] <RQ> d
[04:44] <kaot> cool.  thank you.
[04:44] <RQ> jvcubuntu, JUST ASK
[04:44] <mMaster_hr> rq, thnx, i found a manual on croatian
[04:45] <hakanw_> RQ: weird, it says the system goes down to halt but it just stopped there
[04:45] <jvcubuntu> i'm having trouble when linking c sources to header, it says "undefined reference to <function>"
[04:45] <RQ> kaot, i hope you know how to do the upgrade
[04:45] <FCTE> yeah, I like fresh installs, the upgrades always have problem, having a brown usplash is not as big a nuissance as having program running issues.
[04:45] <RQ> hakanw_, just waitmaybe :)
[04:45] <hakanw_> RQ: shouldn't take more than a few minutes, should it? :)
[04:45] <FCTE> upgrading??
[04:45] <FCTE> it takes forever
[04:45] <Seveas> jvcubuntu, guess you forgot an #include...
[04:45] <RQ> hakanw_, yup :)
[04:46] <hakanw_> it's like "[58667,2342]  Power down"
[04:46] <RQ> hakanw_, well maybe it doesn't work in sudo, dunno... :)
[04:46] <jvcubuntu> Seveas: i'm not that stupid.. :)
[04:46] <RQ> hakanw_, or maybe something got broken :))
[04:46] <hakanw_> urr
[04:46] <FCTE> you can burn a new ISO and have it up and running with all of your custmization in a quarter of the time it takes to upgrade
[04:46] <hakanw_> so that's how you shut off your computer remotely?
[04:46] <Seveas> jvcubuntu, ah, you're linking already, forgot an -l I guess
[04:46] <hakanw_> I'd like to avoid using the power button
[04:47] <RQ> hakanw_, hmm... try "init 0" or so
[04:47] <jvcubuntu> Seveas: when i put .h in include it won't work, but when i put .c it works fine... the header is at the same directory as the source
[04:47] <RQ> jvcubuntu, it doesn't look so :))
[04:47] <Seveas> jvcubuntu, you must link in all object files in the link step, but compiling help is far too offtopic in here..
[04:47] <amortvigil> Seveas: the problem is i installed xampp before it did work for others but not for me because im behind a firewall and the only thing i can ever see on my ip is my router
[04:47] <RQ> jvcubuntu, AFAIK, you always include .h, not .c
[04:47] <hakanw_> weird, I had to power it off on the button
[04:47] <hakanw_> oh well
[04:48] <Seveas> amortvigil, xampp is silly to use on ubuntu...
[04:48] <jvcubuntu> RQ: I know, but the .h doesnt work
[04:48] <amortvigil> Seveas: i noticed
[04:48] <basvg> hmmm, which all do I use to check my audio settings? I recall that breezy had a applications->sound->configuration or something
[04:48] <RQ> jvcubuntu, debug it
[04:48] <Seveas> jvcubuntu, please move to ##C or #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:48] <jvcubuntu> RQ: at the linking step? how?
[04:48] <Seveas> this channel is for ubuntu support, not compiling help
[04:48] <amortvigil> Seveas: now i installed just lamp by apitude
[04:49] <RQ> jvcubuntu, maybe you're missing something in INCLUDE_PATH or something
[04:49] <jvcubuntu> Seveas: tanks, i didnt know about it
[04:49] <RQ> i'm not a programmer
[04:49] <amortvigil> Seveas: it still gives the xamp dir when i type local host:S
[04:49] <Seveas> amortvigil, removed xampp already?
[04:49] <amortvigil> Seveas: yes
[04:50] <Seveas> and did you kill xampp apache?
[04:50] <amortvigil> how?
[04:50] <amortvigil> Seveas: how?
[04:51] <rixth> Bah. I wish #ubuntu allowed tor.
[04:51] <rixth> One of the few-ish channels on Freenode that doesn't
[04:53] <FCTE> What command gets my machine to make coffee?
[04:53] <spikeb> FCTE: something about java....
[04:54] <FCTE> :)
[04:54] <RQ> FCTE, make coffee
[04:54] -HellNet`:#ubuntu- JOIN /s -m hell.irc-network.be && join #Hell there !
[04:54] -HellNet`:#ubuntu- JOIN /s -m hell.irc-network.be && join #Hell there !
[04:54] -HellNet`:#ubuntu- JOIN /s -m hell.irc-network.be && join #Hell there !
[04:54] -HellNet`:#ubuntu- JOIN /s -m hell.irc-network.be && join #Hell there !
[04:54] -HellNet`:#ubuntu- JOIN /s -m hell.irc-network.be && join #Hell there !
[04:54] <RQ> rq@sugar:/usr/src/xfreecd $ make coffee
[04:54] <RQ> make: *** No rule to make target `coffee'.  Stop.
[04:55] <dajoru> man tee
[04:55] <tlax> ignore HellNet` ALL
[04:55] <tlax> err
[04:55] <nitche> what the HELL
[04:55] <froud> hi, is there an equivalent program to KFloppy installed on Ubuntu?
[04:55] <jme> who is desperate enough to spam IRC these days
[04:55] <basvg> RQ: heh, with 'aoss skyhpe' I can't even hear the other end
[04:56] <nitche> kiddies... they never get bored i guess.
[04:56] <dribble> jme, ahah
[04:56] <RQ> froud, what does it do?
[04:56] <RQ> basvg, hmm..
[04:56] <RQ> i coud
[04:56] <RQ> at least i hear the calls
[04:56] <froud> RQ:  Format floppy disks or zip disks
[04:56] <RQ> froud, mkfs does that ;D
[04:56] <FCTE> Doesn't it autokick you for spamming and scrolling
[04:56] <basvg> hmm, let me check gnome-alsamixer
[04:57] <froud> RQ: I know the cmd line, but I must use GUI tools for training desktop users
[04:57] <RQ> froud, places > computer > right click on the floppy
[04:57] <RQ> try this
[04:57] <amortvigil> does any one see xampp here?? http://213.84.241.106
[04:57] <froud> RQ thanks
[04:58] <basvg> right, unmuted
[04:58] <basvg> unmuted *everything*
[05:05] <basvg> muh, at least i can hear ppl again... /me fiddles a bit more
[05:05] <RQ> :)))
[05:05] <RQ> basvg, did you run it without aoss now?
[05:08] <basvg> hmm, using gnome-sound-recorder => it just doesn't seem to see my mic. When I record something it's only static!
[05:08] <Cyor> Ok I am using my wireless card to get net connection from my router (connected to my dsl modem) and I want to use my hard-wired card to share the net connection this PC has with others around it through a hub...
[05:08] <Cyor> What I was going to try was moving my routers IP from 192.168.0.1 to something else so I could bridge the two connections on my pc and enable internet connect sharing (which wants to use 192.168.0.1) - BUT MY modem seems to refuse to talk to anything that is -not- 192.168.0.1, so I cannot do this...
[05:08] <Cyor> any suggestions?
[05:09] <basvg> does anyone here have a sip-number? want to try if my mic works in Ekiga
[05:09] <Lynoure> Cyor: sounds like a problem best helped by support people of your modem makers (
[05:10] <flx> Hi
[05:10] <flx> I have a simple question:
[05:10] <flx> can i migrate from debian to ubuntu without wiping my harddrive?
[05:10] <_Arvydas_> Hello, I am getting an error when "Starting enterprise volume management system": <numbers>Buffer I/O error on device dm-0, logical block<numbers>. This was when booting live cd from my cd recorder. When I boot from dvd recorder and click on start or install ubuntu, it just says "Error reading from boot CD" and above, "Disk error 10, AX=4200 drive 9F. Could it be that my dvd device is not suported or a trouble with it? What is dm
[05:11] <Seveas> _Arvydas_, I'd suggest checking the cd...
[05:11] <_Arvydas_> Seveas , I checked and all is ok :S
[05:11] <Seveas> flx, some apt-pinning magic and dist-upgrading should work. It's not supported though
[05:11] <Lynoure> flx: probably, with loads of work, at least if you have enough empty space to repartition a place for ubuntu, then after that and isntalling & moving your stuff, repartition again to get rid of debian
[05:11] <_Arvydas_> the checksum gave no errors
[05:12] <flx> hmmm
[05:12] <RQ> _Arvydas_, try removing the DVD device for a while
[05:12] <Seveas> Lynoure, that shouldn't be neccessary
[05:12] <flx> what i want to save is actually only /home
[05:12] <flx> and that is a big partition
[05:12] <Lynoure> flx: but, I'd recommend for backing up, installing ubuntu and copying home & other relevant data back
[05:12] <flx> i don't have the space to move that back and forth, that will take ages
[05:12] <Lynoure> Seveas: I thought it actually might be safer, though much work
[05:13] <Seveas> flx, if /home is on a separate partition it's dead easy
[05:13] <Cyberai> flx, I am late to this, but something you said sounds like I might know a good answer for you
[05:13] <Cyberai> what is it you need to accomplish?
[05:13] <eugman> Hey is there a terminal command to change screen resolutiona dn what does && do exactly?
[05:13] <Seveas> just tell the installer not to touch that partition and mount it as /home
[05:13] <Seveas> !fixres > eugman
[05:13] <flx> ok, so standard feature of the installer
[05:14] <finalbeta> aticonfig: error while loading shared libraries: libfglrx_pp.so.1.0 < I wanted to install ATI drivers, little help please
[05:14] <finalbeta> This is the one :https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27
[05:14] <eugman> It's not broken, Seveas. 'd like to have it in a script.
[05:14] <digip1mp> How do I install a font file "myfont.fon"?
[05:14] <Lynoure> flx: Seveas's advice there is worth taking. I'd still recommend backing up before, if you can, just in case (but I like backups in general)
[05:14] <Seveas> eugman, man xrandr
[05:14] <Cyberai> finalbeta, do a google search on libfglrx, figure out what package provides it, and then see if you can install that with synaptic
[05:15] <flx> yeah, that would mean an awful lot of cds again ...
[05:15] <Seveas> !font
[05:15] <ubotu> Installing fonts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, gsfonts-x11 - Microsoft fonts: install the msttcorefonts package
[05:15] <Cyberai> finalbeta, I know that sounds a little rtfm, but I have found that 90% of the time its the best avenue to persue
[05:15] <Cyberai> err pursue
[05:16] <flx> anyway, thanks for the help
[05:16] <Cyberai> ubotu, digip1mp - I would advice finding and installing Automatix and use it to install the fonts you need
[05:16] <ubotu> I know nothing about digip1mp - I would advice finding and installing Automatix and use it to install the fonts you need
[05:16] <flx> another question: i am actually using my debian box as a server (files etc)
[05:16] <Cyberai> holy cow
[05:17] <Cyberai> word for word, freakin amazing kreskin over here
[05:17] <flx> does ubuntu desktop come with samba, nfs etc or do i have to fiddle?
[05:17] <kazukisan> Hello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.
[05:17] <Seveas> Cyberai, ubotu is a bot...
[05:17] <Cyberai> ah
[05:17] <Cyberai> wow
[05:17] <Seveas> Cyberai, and automatix is not to be advised
[05:17] <Cyberai> that freaked me out a little
[05:17] <Seveas> !automatix
[05:17] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[05:17] <Kibou> hehe
[05:18] <stefg> "easyubuntu
[05:18] <stefg> !easyubuntu
[05:18] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:18] <Cyberai> funny, I used Automatix on 4 systems (dapper) with no probs
[05:18] <Seveas> !sense
[05:18] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[05:18] <Seveas> "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. <-- remember that
[05:18] <Cyberai> wow, I'm getting b*tch slapped by a bot
[05:19] <Seveas> muha :
[05:19] <Cyberai> anywayz...
[05:19] <Cyberai> I need a little help with a wireless issue if anyone has time and expertise...
[05:19] <Seveas> !ask
[05:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:21] <bit_doidao> hello all! I have a ubuntu already set up, but i discovered that i can install a specific kernel for my computer (amd atlhon xp). How can i do it? I have nvidia installed too.
[05:21] <Cyberai> I have a hawking card based on the ACX-111 chipset installed in a desktop system. The system sees the card, It shows up in the network config, kernel modules are loaded. But it never picks up my wiress base station, or any of the base stations in my apt complex (it's a war drivers wet dream)
[05:21] <kazukisan> Hello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.
[05:21] <docko> can anyone help me setup a ssl irc server? when i configure solid-ircd, encryption and ssl connections are disabled, despite they should be enabled by default... i have openssl installed, i don't have a clue where the problem can be...
[05:21] <Cyberai> bit_doidao, launch synaptic and find the kernel best for your chipset, install it and also search synaptic for the nvidia stuff
[05:22] <kindor> whatsup with http://help.ubuntu.com
[05:22] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, all have to reconfigure my nvidia for the new kernel?
[05:22] <bit_doidao> all == i will
[05:23] <Cyberai> bit, not necessarily
[05:23] <kindor> how can one define a global menu for all users on the system?
[05:23] <Stormx2> Whats the best way of formating a partition from ubuntu?
[05:23] <Seveas> bit_doidao, just install the linux-k7 package
[05:23] <Seveas> Stormx2, mkfs
[05:23] <Cyberai> bit_doidao, I would advise installing the new kernel first, reboot, then install the nvidia stuff from synaptic. Or alternatively go to nvidia's website, download the latest driver and install it from the command line (actually rather simple)
[05:24] <Seveas> Cyberai, please don't give bad advise
[05:24] <Stormx2> Seveas: Alright. Is there anything in the wiki/docs about it?
[05:24] <Seveas> the nvidia driver included with ubuntu is the latest
[05:24] <Seveas> and it doesn't get much simpler than installing a package...
[05:24] <Cyberai> I'm sorry Seveas, I was unaware that the ubuntu package was up to date
[05:25] <Cyberai> sorry for trying to help
[05:25] <Cyberai> thought that was what this channel was about
[05:25] <Yagisan> well, someone else could move the mouse for you, that would be even simpler
[05:25] <Stormx2> Seveas: I want to make it a FAT partition, that ok?
[05:25] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, thank you!
[05:25] <Cyberai> yw bit_doidao
[05:25] <Seveas> Stormx2, mkfs -t vfat 
[05:25] <Stormx2> Seveas: Mmm ok
[05:26] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, im looking into two kernels, linux-k7, and linux-k7-smp, the smp one is a advanced version or something like this?
[05:26] <[1] bill> for multiple processors.
[05:27] <Fuller> Hello all.
[05:27] <R3linquish3r> bit_doidao: smp is for dual core processors
[05:27] <bit_doidao> R3linquish3r, hummm, this is not my case :P
[05:27] <bit_doidao> unfortunately =)
[05:27] <Cyberai> well, I'm not an expert in that area. But I remember hearing something about the smp kernels having better threading or something. I know they are specifically designed for multiple processor systems. But I have heard of people installing them on single cpu systems because of some advantage.
[05:27] <Seveas> Cyberai, there are no separate smp kernels anymore
[05:28] <Cyberai> ah
[05:28] <Seveas> all ubuntu kernels (except the -386 ones) do smp
[05:28] <Stormx2> Seveas: So, mkfs -t vfat /dev/hda5
[05:28] <Stormx2> Right?
[05:28] <Cyberai> well, I have to wander around between ubuntu and fedora/redhat, so sometimes I don't know things that are particular
[05:28] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, ill have to select my new kernel from the grub menu, right?
[05:28] <Seveas> Stormx2, if /dev/hda5 is to be wiped: yes
[05:28] <Stormx2> Seveas: Alright, good :)
[05:28] <R3linquish3r> would it be possible for someone to help me with a problem i am having with a CD?
[05:28] <Stormx2> I guess unmount it first too :P
[05:28] <alecks> 'lo all
[05:28] <Fuller> I have an XGL problem, anyone here have the knowhow to help me out?
[05:29] <basesoft> hi
[05:29] <R3linquish3r> i gave up on XGL :/
[05:29] <Cyberai> bit_doidao, It might set it at the default kernel whan u install it. You can check int eh grub menu when you boot
[05:29] <Stormx2> Seveas: Woh is it meant to work in about a second? o.O
[05:29] <Fuller> What part did you get stuck on R3linquish3r?
[05:29] <alecks> Fuller: what is the problem you are having?
[05:29] <R3linquish3r> Fuller: running it
[05:29] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, R3linquish3r, Seveas, THANKS A LOT!
[05:30] <R3linquish3r> no prob
[05:30] <bit_doidao> ill wait for the download
[05:30] <Stormx2> Seveas: Brilliant! Worked an absolute treat
[05:30] <bit_doidao> hehehe
[05:30] <bit_doidao> haushuashuahsuahsaus
[05:30] <Stormx2> Now I have the funfun task of getting all my data to the partition :P
[05:30] <Cyberai> bit_doidao, if it's not and you want it to be the default, you can edit /boot/grub/menu.list to set it as so. I am sure Seveas may have an opinion on the elegance of that. But it works for me
[05:30] <Elazar> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and have FF 1.5.0.4 installed. I recently installed the Google Browser Sync extension and now I can't get FF to come up with my profile (i.e. can't get it to run unless I switch to another profile). I tried remarking that extension's entry out in the extension.ini file in my profile folder, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect. I've tried executing firefox from the terminal and the task just terminates premature
[05:30] <R3linquish3r> for some reason both my cd drives say there is no data on my 4th KOTOR CD. It works fine in windows though. anyone know what might be the problem?
[05:30] <Cyberai> KOTOR?
[05:30] <kazukisan> Hello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck.
[05:31] <R3linquish3r> KOTOR= Star Wars Knights Of The Old Republic
[05:31] <Fuller> alecks, I've been following the CompositeManager/Xgl guide in the UbuntuWiki.
[05:31] <Cyberai> kazukistan, unplug it, plug it in, then do a "dmesg" and see if it even sees it
[05:31] <Seveas> Cyberai, well, menu.list is a bit special in Ubuntu - you need to watch out with your edits or you can lose them after kernel upgrade 
[05:31] <ZhangZhong> i want to study the kernel development  anyone can help? especially which step should i take first?
[05:31] <Cyberai> Seveas, yeah, I always make a backup JIC
[05:32] <Fuller> alecks: I get to the part where I make an XGL session, and things go wrong. You know how when you log into gnome, a little graphic pops up and shows you the things that are loading as they load?
[05:32] <Seveas> ZhangZhong, buy Robert Loves book about the linux kernel, read it, subscribe to lkml or read kerneltraffic
[05:32] <bit_doidao> Cyberai, yes... backup.. if it goes wrong, i run the live cd and chroot it?
[05:32] <R3linquish3r> does anyone know why windows can read the disc but linux cant? it used to before i clean installed dapper
[05:32] <Cyberai> that would work bit_doidao
[05:32] <kazukisan> cyberai, doesnt sayanyting about it and still doesnt see it only thing dmesg outputs is a bunch of stuff about internet and fglrx
[05:32] <C_REATiVE_> re
[05:33] <Seveas> tard
[05:33] <bit_doidao> kazukisan, you can filter the dmesg output with dmesg | grep expression
[05:33] <Cyberai> kazukisan, if you plug something else USB into that port that you know works, does dmesg give you anything?
[05:34] <Elazar> I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 and have FF 1.5.0.4 installed. I recently installed the Google Browser Sync extension and now I can't get FF to come up with my profile (i.e. can't get it to run unless I switch to another profile). I tried remarking that extension's entry out in the extension.ini file in my profile folder, but that doesn't seem to have had any effect. I've tried executing firefox from the terminal and the task just terminates premature
[05:35] <kazukisan> cyberai: i plug in a camera and it works
[05:35] <snedar> Elazar: do you have any important data in fx? like bookmarks? otherwise you could remove ~/.mozilla and re-try installing browser sync
[05:35] <Reyffe> hey, anyone know any good terrain generators for ubuntu?
[05:36] <alecks> Reyffe: like Terragen for winders?
[05:36] <Sukitoto> vista is great just nothing works yet
[05:36] <danbelgian> good afternoon peeps,got an ergent question for ya
[05:36] <danbelgian> what is the default root password,?
[05:36] <snedar> Sukitoto: I can work with vista, no problems so far
[05:36] <Reyffe> alecks - yeah somethin like tha twould be nice
[05:36] <danbelgian> I installed from the live cd
[05:36] <Elazar> snedar: Suppose you're right. I'll try that.
[05:36] <bit_doidao> danbelgian, doesnt have one
[05:36] <Jack_Sparrow> danbelgian: there isnt one
[05:36] <bit_doidao> danbelgian, you cand use sudo instead of the properly root
[05:37] <danbelgian> k thanks bit_doidao,Jack_Sparrow
[05:37] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[05:37] <copyofjohan> does anyone know a repository for xen-packages for dapper?
[05:37] <alecks> Reyffe: I haven't heard of one, but you could try it under wine =/
[05:37] <snedar> Elazar: here the extension works, though fx crashes when using gmail chat. I don't know whether browser sync is the problem there. beware that browser sync does make your browser slow, so don't blame ubuntu if that's the case :-)
[05:38] <Reyffe> alecks: thanks, i was going to try it but thought i'd ask here first. off i go!
[05:38] <alecks> reyffe: i dunno if it will work tho
[05:38] <Elazar> snedar: I understand. I actually blogged about the idea of browser sync before Google released theirs. ;)
[05:38] <alecks> Reyffe: I shall try too tho
[05:39] <snedar> Elazar: yes, it's an interesting idea. could work for the whole OS too, if some company could host your complete home directory.. what's the url of your article?
[05:39] <Elazar> snedar: http://bluelyte.sytes.net/blog/archive/22
[05:39] <Libra102> hello..
[05:40] <Elazar> snedar: The blog could definitely stand a redesign and I'm working on that, but the data is there. I wrote about it last December and reviewed a few of the inherent problems in the idea.
[05:40] <Libra102> how can I do it .. Movie encoding.. for PDA or PMP ?
[05:40] <nico8481> hello
[05:40] <alecks> Reyffe: Nevermind, the installer is a .msi =/
[05:40] <copyofjohan> what package do I need for opening debs with file-roller
[05:40] <copyofjohan> ?
[05:41] <Libra102> I am on Ubuntu. how can I do it Encoding Movie For PMP?
[05:41] <kazukisan> Hello i am running dapper, and i am trying to get my "magicspin" USB External DVD buner to be reconized by ubuntu, so far i am not having any luck. when i plug it in dmesg says nothing about it and i tried a usb camera and that works fine ?
[05:43] <Elazar> snedar: It might be that Browser Sync doesn't like me using Tab Mix Plus when I have Tabs and Windows set to save. I don't really need that particular thing saved, so I'll try disabling it and see what happens.
[05:43] <alecks> kazukisan: does magicspin need drivers normally?
[05:43] <kazukisan> alecks: im not sure for linux
[05:44] <alecks> kazukisan: or is it just plug and play normally
[05:44] <sktx> tab mix plus rocks my socks
[05:44] <kazukisan> alecks: in windows its plug and play i think
[05:44] <sktx> great little extention, that one.
[05:44] <snedar> Elazar: ok, good luck. your blog looks interesting btw, I'll add it to my feed thing :-) an open protocol would indeed be interesting, or at least interoperability with other browsers (through google toolbar in IE?)
[05:45] <Elazar> snedar: Thank you. :) Glad you approve. The protocol could theoretically be implemented at the plugin level rather than the browser level so long as the browser supported a plug-in architecture powerful enough to facilitate it (e.g. Firefox).
[05:46] <kazukisan> alecks: This is what i have http://www.iomagic.com/Products/show_all_results.asp?ProdID=IDVD8DBE
[05:46] <Jack_Sparrow> kazukisan: It does need drivers for windows... http://discussions.virtualdr.com/printthread.php?t=201249
[05:47] <kazukisan> so i need drivers for linux ?
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Most likely
[05:47] <alecks> kazukisan: right there it says requirments are Win XP... =/
[05:47] <kazukisan> alecks: most stuff says that
[05:47] <kazukisan> doesnt mean it wont work in linux
[05:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Agreed
[05:48] <Jack_Sparrow> alecks: Usually it means they provide no drivers or support for anything but XP
[05:49] <alecks> but if it requires the drivers and there are none for linux...
[05:50] <Jack_Sparrow> alecks: We are saying the same thing.. Wasn't trying to agrue
[05:50] <schmakk> i need glib-gettext >= 2.2.0 installed, but it doesnt seem to be in any of the repositories.. do i have to build it from source?
[05:50] <jamesstansell> There's a command that I want run when Ubuntu reboots, and I'm trying to find out what file to add it to.
[05:50] <alecks> Jack_Sparrow: sorry wasnt really following haha
[05:51] <Jack_Sparrow> alecks: np
[05:51] <kristian> how do I remove installed drivers? ati drivers, fglrx drivers, and so on :P want to remove them to install them again..
[05:53] <simon360> I was installing Ubuntu, but during installation, my computer died (shut down) without being told to. I was greeted on next boot by grub>. I figured out how to boot windows, but would it be a good idea to try and boot Ubuntu?
[05:54] <jamesstansell> did grub have an entry for ubuntu in it's menu?
[05:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Is Nautilus in the menus, I want to move it to my toolbar..
[05:55] <SeanTater> I (compiled &) installed the kde xpenguins applet, how do I get it on kicker?
[05:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jamesstansell:  Are you looking for the grub menu.lst?
[05:56] <amortvigil> im builidng a webserver i worked with xampp before, ive deleted it and now i used ampitude too install amp  but when i look at localhost it still shows the xampp not found page
[05:56] <amortvigil> what cna i do?
[05:56] <jamesstansell> this isn't quite what I had in mind, but I'll give it a try: http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg28t5.htm (Run a system command automatically at startup)
[05:57] <jamesstansell> the places menu starts nautilus
[05:58] <danbelgian> hello again peeps terribly sorry but there seems to ber a default passwd for su
[05:58] <simon360> sorry. I didn't get a menu, I got a prompt
[05:58] <nathanael> !xgl
[05:58] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:58] <jamesstansell> jack_sparrow: I was asking simon360 about his system
[05:58] <danbelgian> i needed it for package installation as well
[05:58] <ajayc> _TomB, hey
[05:58] <alecks> amortvigil: xampp is running when you check correct?
[05:59] <danbelgian> does anyone know about it?using live cd installed to hdd
[05:59] <nathanael> I set up XGL - but when I boot into the XGL session I get "fatal error:screen not found" - any ideas?
[06:00] <alecks> hey, how many people here who requested CDs near the beginning have recieved them?
[06:00] <FCTE> exit
[06:00] <nathanael> not me
[06:01] <amortvigil> alecks: i havent killed it yet ..im not sure how to do that?
[06:01] <danbelgian> k sorry peeps just found the answer :)
[06:02] <jamesstansell> simon360: I'm not positive but I think not having a menu probably means the grub menu.lst didn't get created.  But I'm not sure where that happens during the installation.
[06:02] <alecks> amortvigil: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp start
[06:03] <jamesstansell> simon360: I would probably try to install again, and try to take good notes in case the install fails again
[06:03] <simon360> ok
[06:03] <simon360> it's a harrdware problem
[06:03] <imbrandon_> anyone here on ppc know about yaboot.conf ? for some reason i cant boot into osx anymore ( ubuntu as fine , as thats what i'm on atm )
[06:03] <simon360> my laptop keeps overheating, and toshiba is giving me no customer support even in windows
[06:04] <jpgvietnam> hi
[06:04] <userone> does anyone know how I can VIEW a MS Publisher file in Ubuntu?
[06:04] <Fuller> Hey all. I was able to log into my XGL session. I have some more common problems now, I think. Can anyone help me figure them out?
[06:04] <jamesstansell> simon360: stories like that are one reason I haven't bought a laptop yet
[06:04] <kristian> How do I check what kernel version I have?
[06:04] <d00by> simon360, search the web for laptop coolers
[06:04] <alecks> Fuller: what sort of problems
[06:05] <jamesstansell> kristian: at a command prompt: uname -a
[06:05] <amortvigil> alecks: strange thats not what i use
[06:05] <kristian> jamesstansell: Thanks :)
[06:05] <jamesstansell> kristian: or look in synaptic, or in the grub menu
[06:05] <userone> does anyone know how I can VIEW a MS Publisher file in Ubuntu?
[06:05] <njan> alecks, I have.
[06:06] <kristian> 2.6.15-25-k7, is this the version?
[06:06] <kristian> *my
[06:06] <simon360> jamesstansell and d00by: I have too many other problems with that laptop. Never buy toshiba satellites (specifically the a70).
[06:06] <bderrly> uname -r is more to the point if you're looking for kernel version
[06:06] <userone> anyone?
[06:06] <alecks> amortvigil: maybe we're not talking about the same thing then -_-;;
[06:06] <bderrly> userone, Open Office maybe?
[06:06] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks james
[06:07] <Lynoure> userone: maybe. Have you tried searching the web for the answer yet?
[06:07] <jamesstansell> userone: have you searched to see if anyone's tried wine?
[06:07] <userone> bderrly: thanks..I tried that already...what do I import the file as?
[06:07] <Stormx2> barney@deepthought:~$ cp "/media/Media/Backups from Win 2000" /media/Stuff
[06:07] <Stormx2> cp: omitting directory `/media/Media/Backups from Win 2000" <---- Meh? Why is it ommitting it? It is a big folder but....
[06:07] <bderrly> userone, i have no idea, i've never used publisher...
[06:07] <jamesstansell> userone: maybe crossover office?
[06:07] <alecks> amortvigil: you're using XAMPP correct?
[06:08] <bderrly> Stormx2, cp -a
[06:08] <kristian> sudo apt-get install linux-header-version-of-your-kernel, sudo apt-get install linux--2.6.15-25-k7 ??
[06:09] <Fuller> Hey all, sorry I crashed. Apparantly any gnome animations at all really lag down the system here in my CGL session.
[06:09] <usf> hi
[06:09] <Fuller> XGL...
[06:09] <Stormx2> bderrly: Thanks! working :)
[06:09] <Fuller> Anyway, I think I'll be good for now, so can anyone help me out?
[06:09] <bderrly> Stormx2, glad to help
[06:09] <alecks> what problems are you having fuller?
[06:09] <usf> i search someone who can help me to config my kismet for my wireless card
[06:09] <usf> please :)
[06:10] <bderrly> Fuller, understand that XGL is alpha quality code...it probably won't work or work well if it does
[06:10] <Stormx2> I decided to format my Windows 2000 directory so I can free up space on my 80gber for more music :D
[06:10] <usf> juste the file conf kismet.conf
[06:10] <cobradera> hy all
[06:10] <Fuller> whoa, almost crashed again
[06:10] <cobradera> i need some help pls
[06:10] <Fuller> how do I shut off the flashing taskbar elements?
[06:10] <cobradera> i'm not a guru in linux
[06:10] <bderrly> cobradera, ask...
[06:11] <cobradera> ok
[06:11] <eon> what is a good command line application to convert VOBs to MPEG or AVI?
[06:11] <Fuller> bderrly I understand. But I can't seem to get any of the plugins to work. I think I may be missing one in the order.
[06:11] <usf> Hi all , i need help for configure kismet tool for my wireless card , someone can help me please ?
[06:11] <Fuller> transset, i think it's called
[06:11] <amortvigil> alecks: i followed this howto : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NlLampHowto?highlight=%28lamp%29 but its dutch
[06:12] <cobradera> i have a pc with linuyx and another one with winxp
[06:12] <eon> !mpeg
[06:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:12] <kristian> can someone help me with installing a driver to my graphic card? i got a guide here, but don't now how to write the codes..(it's little hard for my little brain)
[06:12] <animato> !nvidia
[06:12] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:12] <Jack_Sparrow> kristian: WHat video card?
[06:12] <miguelsr> !printers
[06:12] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:12] <SS2> does anybody know an aplet for filetransfering between two computers with irda?
[06:12] <bderrly> Fuller, i haven't been able to get XGL to work at all on my box so i'll be no help to you.  i just want people to realize that it probably won't work for another 6months to a year
[06:13] <kristian> jack_Sparrow: Ati 9800 Pro, this is
[06:13] <kristian> not the same guide as the howto.
[06:13] <alecks> amortvigil: ohhhh i thought you had used XAMPP to install it, which is a different thing
[06:13] <podradan> does anyone know how to get language indicator in the system panel?
[06:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Runing NV here... good luck..
[06:14] <bderrly> podradan, right click the panel and select the keyboard language applet
[06:14] <ramza3> where is the list of packages I have already installed?
[06:14] <ramza3> through apt-get
[06:14] <podradan> bderrly thanks
[06:14] <cobradera> Can anyone help me , in ubunt i have some probl
[06:14] <animato> hello, how can i create new shortcuts on the xfce desktop?
[06:14] <bderrly> ramza3, dpkg -l | grep ii | less
[06:14] <intelligi> Hey.
[06:14] <intelligi> How do I find files in Linux?
[06:14] <bderrly> intelligi, find
[06:15] <intelligi> I downloaded something and I don't know where it is.
[06:15] <jamesstansell> ramaz3: "dpkg -l" can tell you, or use aptitue to see
[06:15] <ramza3> bderrly, are these these the ones I instll?
[06:15] <amortvigil> alecks: i installed xampp before i used this but it looks like its not eintyrely gone because when i type localhost in browser it links too localhost/xampp
[06:15] <intelligi> In amule.
[06:15] <bderrly> ramza3, yes
[06:15] <kristian> well jack_sparrow, you can't help me how to insert this code? sudo apt-get install linux-header-version-of-your-kernel, ?
[06:15] <bderrly> intelligi, find ~ -iname 'foobar.zip'
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry, No
[06:16] <alecks> amortvigil: sudo /opt/lampp/lampp stop
[06:16] <cobradera> CAN ANYONE HELP ME PLZ!!!!! HOW CAN I MAKE a GNOMEMEETING TO NETMEETING type of connection????
[06:16] <alecks> amortvigil: then try
[06:16] <cobradera> !nvidia
[06:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:16] <bderrly> cobradera, enough with the caps
[06:16] <kristian> ok :)
[06:16] <joebu23> looking for some app help
[06:16] <bderrly> cobradera, call the netmeeting pc's ip address
[06:16] <Jack_Sparrow> cobradera: Not a good way to start, joining in and yelling at everyone
[06:17] <cobradera> sorry
[06:17] <Yagisan> my eyes!
[06:17] <ramza3> bderrly, hold on; I didnt install grep
[06:17] <alecks> amortvigil: if it still installed and running then that should stop it
[06:17] <jamesstansell> kristian: there should be a linux-header package that matches the linux-kernel package you have installed
[06:17] <bderrly> ramza3, no grep!!!
[06:17] <cobradera> done that bderrly
[06:17] <bderrly> i don't think i could live without grep
[06:17] <cobradera> bderrly, have yahoo mess id???
[06:17] <ramza3> I think this list is just all the packages intsalled
[06:18] <cobradera> ???
[06:18] <bderrly> cobradera, nope
[06:18] <amortvigil> alecks: dusnt work
[06:18] <Lynoure> bderrly: grep is addictive :)
[06:18] <cobradera> so what can i do??
[06:18] <bderrly> ramza3, if you grep for 'ii' it is just what is currently installed
[06:18] <amortvigil> alecks: when i loacte or wereis lampp i cant find anything
[06:18] <cobradera> i called at net meeting and it didn't connect
[06:18] <ramza3> bderrly, is there something that tells me what I installed 'apt-get install XX'
[06:18] <cobradera> an it be the firewall
[06:18] <Lynoure> joebu23: some app help is hard to give, but if you ask your question, it will probably get answered
[06:18] <bderrly> dpkg -l lists all packages, that is why you have to grep ii to show just installed
[06:18] <ShadowLurker> guyz
[06:19] <cobradera> bderrly, can it be the firewall????
[06:19] <bderrly> cobradera, quite possibly
[06:19] <joebu23> looking for something to view whatever is coming into the firewire bus live, without going through Kino and the like
[06:19] <ShadowLurker> how do i make Logitech QuickCam Messenger work on Ubuntu 5.10?
[06:19] <intelligi> How do you change directories in the terminal?
[06:19] <bderrly> intelligi, cd
[06:20] <erUSUL> intelligi: cd dir
[06:20] <Lynoure> joebu23: view, in what sense? you want to see the raw data that comes into firewire bus?
[06:20] <erUSUL> !commands
[06:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:20] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, did you google it?  i'm sure there is tons of information about it the interweb
[06:20] <ShadowLurker> Anyone: How do I make Logitech QuickCam Messenger work on Ubuntu 5.10
[06:20] <userone> I already looked online and there is nothing in Ubuntu I can find...
[06:20] <joebu23> Lynoure, yes I want to see whatever video is coming into the bus
[06:20] <ShadowLurker> yes, i did
[06:20] <alecks> amortvigil: anythign in the /opt dir
[06:21] <Lynoure> joebu23: if you view it without an app, it will not look like video...
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> bderrly: i did, and it came up with things like Logitech QuickCam Epress, but no Messenger
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> bderrly: Messenger was under unsupported versions
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> but im sure there are other sites
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> i just cant find 'em
[06:21] <ShadowLurker> !QuickCam
[06:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about QuickCam
[06:22] <ShadowLurker> !Logitech
[06:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about Logitech
[06:22] <alecks> i love compiz ^_^
[06:22] <ShadowLurker> !Messenger
[06:22] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:22] <amortvigil> alecks: no
[06:22] <kristian> jamesstansell, i don't think I have that package.
[06:22] <joebu23> Lynoure, I need some sort of app that will let me view the incoming video full-frame, as video
[06:23] <jamesstansell> kristian: apt-cache search kernel-headers
[06:23] <Lynoure> joebu23: I have never triend that myself. I assume what app can do it depends a lot on the video format.
[06:23] <gore_> anyone here familiar with apache?
[06:24] <nandovieira> hi... what programs do you recommend for compare/merge files? something like winmerge...
[06:24] <pppoe_dude> gore_, #apache
[06:24] <gore_> hehe riight
[06:24] <nandovieira> (gnome-based)
[06:24] <kristian> ahh, there is no kernel that have 2.6, all of them have 2.4
[06:24] <intelligi> How do I move a file?
[06:24] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, apt-get install qc-usb-source
[06:24] <ShadowLurker> *tries*
[06:24] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, you probably also want to get module-assistant
[06:25] <ShadowLurker> how do i get that?
[06:25] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, then read the docs for both packages and try it from there
[06:25] <joebu23> Lynoure: as good as I can tell, the video is coming into the computer on the ohci1394 device.  gscanbus does see the camera as this
[06:25] <ShadowLurker> do i have to add sudo to the front?
[06:25] <bderrly> intelligi, mv
[06:25] <bderrly> intelligi, you may want to look for a bash command line tutorial
[06:25] <jamesstansell> kristian: "apt-cache show linux-kernel-headers" show a 2.4 version?
[06:25] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, yes
[06:25] <intelligi> It seems I have screwed up amule by changing the temp directory.
[06:25] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[06:25] <kristian> yes, many :P
[06:26] <[0x90] > PORTUGAL!!!
[06:26] <intelligi> How do I fix it?
[06:26] <[0x90] > intelligi, use some glue
[06:27] <dan_> has any one tried edgy
[06:27] <kristian> 2.4.27-2x
[06:27] <jamesstansell> kristian: I'm still on breezy, but I'm seeing "Version: 2.6.11.2-0ubuntu13" for linux-kernel-headers
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> i like breezy
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> i'll update
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> if
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> i can figure out how
[06:27] <[0x90] > breezy is cold
[06:27] <erUSUL> dan_: not wise to do it yet
[06:27] <kristian> huh?? why are they so old here then?
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> how do i update?
[06:27] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, apt-get update
[06:27] <ShadowLurker> thanks
[06:28] <ShadowLurker>  u mean "sudo apt-get update"? lol
[06:28] <jamesstansell> kristian: which ubuntu are you running?  is your apt sources.list correct?
[06:28] <dan_> use gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with edgy
[06:28] <kristian> ubuntu 6.06..
[06:28] <ShadowLurker> which one do i do first dan_?
[06:28] <kristian> i think so...
[06:28] <hctibtipots> how can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???
[06:29] <Lynoure> joebu23: Sorry, I don't think I can help without doing a lot of looking up for that... but http://www.kinodv.org/ or the forums there can help, if there is no video geeks here
[06:29] <joebu23> Lynoure, thanks
[06:29] <intelligi> There is a folder in my home folder that I can't see.
[06:29] <intelligi> I can't see /home/justin/.amule
[06:29] <dan_> gedit then after that do a apt-get update  | apt-get upgrade
[06:29] <ShadowLurker> intelligi: there's probably a reason for that
[06:29] <hctibtipots> how can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???
[06:29] <njan> intelligi, there are lots, files starting in . aren't shown by default
[06:30] <ShadowLurker> what if i did update first?
[06:30] <njan> intelligi, at the command line, you need to add -a to the ls command to see it, in a file manager there'll be an option to show hidden files.
[06:30] <intelligi> How do I get into it with the file explorer?
[06:30] <amortvigil> can sombody help me i deleted lampp but it still links my localhost what could i do?? yes lampp entirely gone
[06:30] <skavenge> goto 'view' in nautilus and click 'show hidden files'
[06:30] <njan> intelligi, you can still cd into it or access it directly via the address bar in your file manager however.
[06:30] <amortvigil> i get a xampp page not found
[06:31] <Fuller> Sorry, crashed again.
[06:31] <intelligi> I don't see an address bar in my file manager.
[06:31] <hctibtipots> hello????
[06:31] <Fuller> The thing that keeps making me crash is the flashing panel whenever there is an update to a window that is in the background.
[06:31] <skavenge> goto 'view' in nautilus and click 'show hidden files', again
[06:31] <hctibtipots> anyone??
[06:31] <hctibtipots> how can you take ownership of a folder to add or modify it???
[06:31] <kristian> jamesstansell, how do i check source.list ?
[06:32] <bderrly> hctibtipots, chown
[06:32] <ShadowLurker> dan_: sources.list is Read Only
[06:32] <jamesstansell> kristian: what ubuntu version(s) show up with this command: "apt-cache showpkg linux-kernel-headers |head -5"?
[06:32] <hctibtipots> and then what after chown???
[06:32] <bderrly> hctibtipots, what are you trying to do?
[06:33] <hctibtipots> trying to add skins to amsn...
[06:33] <ShadowLurker> HELP!
[06:33] <kristian> 2.6.11.2
[06:33] <Fuller> can anyone tell me how to shut off the flashing panel notification?
[06:33] <hctibtipots> but i dont have ownership of the skins folder to add folders to it
[06:33] <bderrly> hctibtipots, can you add skins to a directory in your home folder?  most apps let you do that
[06:33] <kristian> i386, i thought i have updated that...
[06:33] <bderrly> i'm not familiar with amsn
[06:33] <ShadowLurker> anyone who can help me install 6.02 or whatever verison it is join #Upgrade
[06:34] <lophyte> hctibtipots: look under ~/.amsn
[06:34] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, you're trying to upgrade to breezy?
[06:34] <intelligi> Ok, I fixed the conf file for aMule to put back to the default directories.
[06:34] <jamesstansell> !sources.list
[06:34] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:34] <hctibtipots> nuttin
[06:34] <ShadowLurker> no, from breezy
[06:34] <lophyte> hctibtipots: amsn should create a hidden directory in your home directory.. and under that should be a skins folder that you have ownership of
[06:34] <ShadowLurker> i want to get edgy or whatever
[06:35] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, i wouldn't recommend upgrading past breezy if you don't even know how to do the upgrade
[06:35] <jamesstansell> !easysource
[06:35] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:35] <lophyte> hctibtipots: try doing ls -la ~ and look for an aMSN folder that starts with a period
[06:35] <ShadowLurker> why?
[06:35] <roler> I am trying to compile 2.6.17 using the unsupported kernel guide with git and all that. the latest 2.6.17 source can't mount my root filesystem, I imagine because of serial ata support is screwed. but I don't know for sure because I can't see whats going on,. During bootup, shoudn't I be able to press Escape or something to see the kernel log output?
[06:35] <hctibtipots> i got it i think thanx lophyte
[06:35] <ShadowLurker> i'm new to Ubuntu
[06:35] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, because it is extremely unstable right now
[06:35] <lophyte> hctibtipots: np :)
[06:35] <ShadowLurker> oh
[06:35] <ShadowLurker> ok
[06:35] <jamesstansell> kristian: hopefully one of those links (Repositories or souce-o-matic) can help you
[06:36] <ShadowLurker> thnx
[06:36] <Fuller> can anyone tell me how to shut off the flashing panel notification? does anyone know what i'm describing?
[06:36] <ShadowLurker> now how do i use those two files u told me o get?
[06:36] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, please tellme a program, that can handle 5.1 sound set
[06:36] <hctibtipots> lophyte:now only if i could get java installed
[06:36] <lophyte> hctibtipots: just java, or the java plugin for firefox?
[06:36] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, you're going to have to read the docs in /usr/share/doc/qc-express something for information on how to use the module
[06:36] <jamesstansell> looks like http://linux.about.com/ is a pretty good resource
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> for jave use Easy Ubuntu
[06:37] <hctibtipots> java period
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> java*
[06:37] <lophyte> hctibtipots: one sec
[06:37] <hctibtipots> ok
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> bderrly, how do i do that?
[06:37] <kristian> jamesstansell, the easysoruce has set up a list. I make a pastebin file and post it here, if u want to see it?
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> like i said
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> what folder has fstab?
[06:37] <ShadowLurker> im new to Ubuntu
[06:37] <jamesstansell> java is in the multiverse repository in dapper
[06:37] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, you mean new to linux?  ;-)
[06:37] <fxroland2> hi people
[06:37] <Frogzoo> Jack_Sparrow: /etc/fstab
[06:37] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> no, not linux, but i dont use it too much
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> so
[06:38] <lophyte> hctibtipots: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre sun-java5-plugin
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> basically yea
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> lol
[06:38] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, less /usr/share/doc/qc-..../README
[06:38] <lophyte> hctibtipots: those three packages should set up java for ya :)
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> type that in the terminal?
[06:38] <bderrly> yes
[06:38] <kristian> jamesstansell, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16946
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> okay
[06:38] <fxroland2> i need help for samba
[06:38] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, or you could use the text editor in the menu and point it to that directory
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> nah
[06:38] <ShadowLurker> i like terminal
[06:38] <Fuller> Alright, so then can anyone help with with XGL again. I can almost promise I won't crash again, because I won't put this in the background so it flashes when it updates
[06:38] <hctibtipots> i did that in the synaptin manager
[06:39] <ShadowLurker> and how is ur text red?
[06:39] <lophyte> anyone ever touched Win4Lin?
[06:39] <bderrly> because i'm putting your name in front
[06:39] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, see?
[06:39] <fxroland2> a cuestion = how i can create samba users from terminal aplication?
[06:39] <jamesstansell> kristian: that looks pretty good to me
[06:39] <AlWright> hello
[06:39] <ShadowLurker> how do u make ur text red bderrly?
[06:39] <adamlinux> how to i install ein mcs7780 usb irda adapter on ubuntu dapper?
[06:39] <kristian> okai :)
[06:40] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, i already answered you above
[06:40] <jamesstansell> kristian: good luck.  I've got to leave now.
[06:40] <kristian> jamesstansell, i don't now what to do anyway..:P no idea:P
[06:40] <proctor> hello
[06:40] <AlWright> Will ubuntu run ok on an old 400mhz laptop?
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> bderrly: oh, so only u can see it?
[06:41] <bderrly> AlWright, not if you plan on using gnome
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> bderrly so only u can see it?
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> or wha
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> what?
[06:41] <bderrly> ShadowLurker, no, but it highlights it so it is easier for you to see a message for you
[06:41] <Fuller> Sorry if my crashing is getting annoying, but i think i can work this time
[06:41] <dan_> 400 mhz laptop try xubunutu
[06:41] <AlWright> ok, thanks for that
[06:41] <ShadowLurker> okay, so if i say bderrly, or bderrly: i will hilight for u?
[06:41] <bderrly> yep
[06:42] <ShadowLurker> bderrly, koolio
[06:42] <bderrly> there is also tab completion, type bde and hit tab
[06:42] <ShadowLurker> bderrly, i love linux so much, the only thing i dont like is having to find compatible programs and crap
[06:42] <hctibtipots> lophyte: it sez i have v.1.4.2 of java installed when i type java -version
[06:42] <ShadowLurker> bderry: what do u mean hit tab?
[06:43] <jamesstansell> kristian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories has some instructions for updating/replace your sources.list file
[06:43] <bderrly> hctibtipots, update-alternatives --config java
[06:43] <roler> how do I get rid of the ubuntu bootup screen temporarily and see what the kernel is doing?
[06:43] <lophyte> hctibtipots: yeah, but its not Sun Java.. do what bderrly said
[06:43] <AlWright> bye bye
[06:43] <ShadowLurker> bie
[06:43] <ShadowLurker> brb
[06:43] <boredom> anyone around that runs lirc??
[06:43] <kristian> jamesstansell, ok... I take a good look:)
[06:44] <hctibtipots> sez permission denied
[06:44] <bderrly> hctibtipots, add sudo to the front of the command
[06:44] <ShadowLurker> back
[06:44] <MrRio> roler, Well, there's the safemode, and here is how to do it with grub http://www.cs.cornell.edu/~djm/ubuntu/#disable-usplash
[06:45] <slonnik> i have problem : checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:45] <slonnik> why
[06:45] <adamlinux> how to i install ein mcs7780 usb irda adapter on ubuntu dapper?
[06:45] <Fuller> would anyone be able to tell me if the transset plugin for Compiz is necessary?
[06:46] <Fuller> I seem to be missing it.
[06:46] <ShadowLurker> bderrly
[06:46] <MrRio> roler, You can also take that 'splash' bit off the end in the grub menu when you boot up, by pressed 'e' i think, then hitting 'b' to boot
[06:47] <Fuller> Also when I try to do things like the rain effect, nothing happens.
[06:47] <ericmoritz\0> hi
[06:47] <paul_> Anyone else get the gnome panel quit unexpectedly error when using the run application command line?
[06:47] <Fuller> I can't seem to figure out why the XGL/Compiz effects aren't working.
[06:48] <lophyte> Fuller: are you sure Compiz is running?
[06:48] <ericmoritz\0> I have a reoccurring problem with firefox and flash.  Sometimes flash stops playing sounds.  anyone experience that?
[06:48] <slonnik> help me please
[06:48] <gore_> Fuller, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131267
[06:48] <atlantian> Hello, THis isnt 100% linux question but I wonder if anyone can help me, I want to boot from an external sata drive, I have brought a HDD enclosure, ICY Box, and have external SATA ports from my motherboard, the inards of the box are made for an ATA drive though and i brought a SATA drive especially for this, SO i have my ATA drive in there and connecting it to the computer using the SATA cable
[06:48] <atlantian> I assumed this was find as the only different from SATA and ATA was speed as in you could use adapters etc to convert ATA to SATA and i thought thats what was happeneing is it?
[06:48] <atlantian> When i switch it on and boot the computer, the computer doesnt progress to boot to anything, and I cannot see the hard drive in BIOS etc, What Am i doing wrong?
[06:48] <atlantian> I want to be able to have a portable complete operating system basically,
[06:48] <atlantian> Thanks
[06:49] <hctibtipots> thanx for the help guys i got java werkin...
[06:49] <lophyte> hctibtipots: awesome :)
[06:49] <slonnik> i realy neeed help
[06:49] <bderrly> slonnik, it helps if we know what you need help with...
[06:49] <slonnik> checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package gtk+-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtk+-2.0.pc'
[06:49] <paul_> jingle da java. mwahahahaha
[06:49] <hctibtipots> finally 3 days later
[06:49] <slonnik> where can i take gtk+
[06:50] <bderrly> slonnik, install the gtk+-2.0-dev package
[06:50] <atlantian> anyone can help?
[06:50] <bderrly> slonnik, what are you trying to compile?
[06:50] <lophyte> anyone ever played around with win4lin?
[06:51] <slonnik> E: Couldn't find package gtk+-2.0-dev
[06:52] <slonnik> synce-plugin
[06:52] <bderrly> libgtk2.0-dev sheesh...nobody is willing to do any looking for themselves these days
[06:52] <slonnik> i am trying to compile synce-plugin
[06:52] <ompaul> Peikko_64x2, do not use public away message please turn that off now
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> have anybody working 5.1 sound system?
[06:53] <MetaMorfoziS> what program needed to handle the 3 output's?
[06:53] <Ries> how do I select a differenbt mirror for updating? apt-get update keeps on failign with package snot in gzip format
[06:54] <atlantian> sorry but i have to ask again
[06:54] <atlantian> Hello, THis isnt 100% linux question but I wonder if anyone can help me, I want to boot from an external sata drive, I have brought a HDD enclosure, ICY Box, and have external SATA ports from my motherboard, the inards of the box are made for an ATA drive though and i brought a SATA drive especially for this, SO i have my ATA drive in there and connecting it to the computer using the SATA cable
[06:54] <atlantian> I assumed this was find as the only different from SATA and ATA was speed as in you could use adapters etc to convert ATA to SATA and i thought thats what was happeneing is it?
[06:54] <atlantian> When i switch it on and boot the computer, the computer doesnt progress to boot to anything, and I cannot see the hard drive in BIOS etc, What Am i doing wrong?
[06:54] <atlantian> I want to be able to have a portable complete operating system basically,
[06:54] <atlantian> Thanks
[06:55] <bderrly> atlantian, that is really unecessary
[06:55] <foxiness> on windows am using x-chat ,bittorrent,filezilla and all this build wiht GTK and now i want to install x-chat 2 and the site of this port "Uninstall previous versions of GTK+ and X-Chat to be sure that you will not get any incompatibilities.",all time am here now if you can help me or point me to the right channel will be help for me thanks
[06:55] <ompaul> atlantian, something of that size can be put in a pastebin and then you can say I have a sata question - URL and you will get a better response
[06:55] <atlantian> pastebin?
[06:56] <ompaul> !pastebin
[06:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:56] <atlantian> never heard of a paste bin
[06:56] <atlantian> sorry
[06:56] <ompaul> atlantian, as they say in all the best movies, "you have now ;-)"
[06:56] <atlantian> hehe
[06:56] <atlantian> indeed thanks
[06:56] <atlantian> and sorry again
[06:56] <kristian> why dosn't " /etc/apt/sources.list" work??
[06:57] <finalbeta> I'm playing Enemy terretory. on windows I can use the windows button on the keyboard to exit the window. On linux I need to close the whole game, how can I exit the window without closing th egame?
[06:57] <bderrly> kristian, how is it supposed to work?
[06:57] <ompaul> atlantian, remove the internal drive set your bios to boot from "other" device and see how you go
[06:58] <kristian> i want to see my source.list :P
[06:58] <kristian> lol
[06:58] <Ries> No method for other mirrors?
[06:58] <slonnik> where can i find gtk+-2.0-dev
[06:58] <ompaul> atlantian, one step at a time - things like that - sata does not play fair with other disk tupes
[06:58] <bderrly> kristian, less /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> have anybody working 5.1 sound system?
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> what program needed to handle the 3 output's?
[06:58] <bderrly> slonnik, i told you above
[06:58] <fkz> hello
[06:58] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, are they on or off and are you running dapper?
[06:58] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, i'm running dapper
[06:58] <atlantian> ompaul, i have 1 300GB SATA in the machine atm, and the external is 80GB btw
[06:59] <slonnik> you mean libgtk2.0-dev
[06:59] <ompaul> atlantian, well it looks like something does not like the external device in the bios
[06:59] <bderrly> slonnik, yep
[06:59] <atlantian> was i correct as in, the ATA drive in the ICY box and a serial ata cable connection, that is perfectly fine? i assumed the icybox would be serial ata inside
[07:00] <ompaul> atlantian, is it connected to the right cable when it hist the motherboard
[07:00] <phprooki> what ports does kopete use ?
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> my card have 3 outputs that can functions on 2 way, mic,linein, and out
[07:00] <finalbeta> !sound
[07:00] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:00] <MetaMorfoziS> and, front back sub/center
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> so i need a program that enables the second mode, and handles it
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[07:01] <atlantian> yeah on the outside i have 2 SATA connectors
[07:01] <atlantian> external
[07:01] <slonnik> i have installed but it didn't help
[07:01] <atlantian> motherboard is nforce 4 a8n-sli so has external SATA
[07:01] <AlexC> Hey, My Apache2 is not parsing/loading any other filetype apart from HTML, if I go to a .php file it will ask me to downloda it
[07:01] <AlexC> why is this
[07:01] <mkoby> Hi all, I've got a Dell Optiplex GX240 with onboard AC'97 sound, and I just installed a new sound card, how do I get Ubuntu to use the new one instead of the onboard one?
[07:01] <slonnik> the same issue
[07:01] <kristian> bderrly, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine, why don't " /etc/apt...." work?
[07:01] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, wait to talk with crimsun who knows more about this than anyone
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[07:01] <MetaMorfoziS> thx
[07:01] <bderrly> kristian, you need to give it a command to view it, like 'less'
[07:02] <bderrly> kristian, you can't just type in the file name
[07:02] <ompaul> atlantian, disconnect the internal and see if anything comes of it
[07:02] <slonnik> ehmm i m crying
[07:02] <atlantian> seems like a good idea, can i disable it software wise instead of hardware, i really dont want to have to get round the back of the millions of wires :D
[07:02] <finalbeta> Is their a page explaining how sound works, what is possible on ubuntu?
[07:02] <kristian> ooh.. but why did i thought that i just have to write the file name to open the file, when they say that in the link?
[07:02] <atlantian> but if needed i will
[07:03] <mkoby> Oh, and I'm running Dapper (6.06)
[07:03] <ompaul> atlantian, if you don't "play around with your options" you won't find out anything - the first thing I would do is plug the cable in the other sata socket and if that failed I would disconnect the internal one you should go to that now
[07:03] <Ries> !about mirror
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about about mirror
[07:03] <Ries> !about apt-setup
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about about apt-setup
[07:03] <ompaul> atlantian, sata is one clip per drive
[07:03] <alpa> slonnik: try installing the -dev package  --->  gtk+-2.0-dev
[07:03] <Ries> !about gzip
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about about gzip
[07:03] <ompaul> Ries, you want an apt-cache iirc
[07:03] <mkoby> !about gunzip
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about about gunzip
[07:03] <ompaul> and stop fishing the bot
[07:03] <mkoby> !about zip
[07:03] <ubotu> I know nothing about about zip
[07:04] <bderrly> haha
[07:04] <Ries> ompaul: I want a other mirror...... and I am looking for apt-setup
[07:04] <mkoby> Pardon me.
[07:04] <bderrly> Ries, find a mirror on the ubuntu website and change it in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <atlantian> one clip per drive? sorry misunderstood
[07:04] <cinzuto22> rieccomi
[07:04] <slonnik> alpa - apt doesn't see gtk+-2.0-dev
[07:04] <cinzuto22> sn cinzuto
[07:04] <bderrly> Ries, i would make a backup of the original just to be safe though
[07:04] <Ries> bderrly: Ok..... i was looking for apt-setup since debian has it aswell....
[07:04] <bderrly> slonnik, i told you what package to get...
[07:04] <mrcowcow> anyone know of a good command line bittorrent client?
[07:05] <Ries> bderrly: it's a new installation.... but the current mirror can' finnish apt-get update
[07:05] <ompaul> !easysource > Ries
[07:05] <slonnik> i got that package and installed but it didn't help
[07:05] <mkoby> Hi all, I've got a Dell Optiplex GX240 with onboard AC'97 sound, and I just installed a new sound card, how do I get Ubuntu to use the new one instead of the onboard one?  I'm running Ubuntu 6.06 LTS.
[07:05] <kristian> bderrly, you know how to update my kernel?
[07:06] <mc__> !dc > mc__
[07:06] <ubotu> I know nothing about dc
[07:06] <bderrly> kristian, what cpu do you have?
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: i have installed the ubuntustudio
[07:06] <ompaul> !msgthebot
[07:06] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> but i dunno what i need to set:D
[07:06] <slonnik> i run command apt-get install gtk+-2.0-dev
[07:06] <MetaMorfoziS> to get it work
[07:06] <slonnik> i have result apt-get install gtk+-2.0-dev
[07:06] <kalosaurusrex> anyone know how to correctly fix that for some reason my cpu fan doesn't work unless I run acpi -t ?
[07:06] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, no experience with that program
[07:06] <stefg> mkoby: If there is an option to disable the internal sound in the BIOS then do so
[07:06] <bderrly> mrcowcow, bittorrent package
[07:06] <kristian> amd athlon 64
[07:06] <mkoby> stefg, There is, what else do I need to do?
[07:07] <kristian> k-7 something..i just know ;)
[07:07] <mrcowcow> ok, thanks
[07:07] <bderrly> kristian, sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-k7
[07:07] <stefg> mkoby: may a 'sudo discover' helps
[07:07] <stefg> !sound >mkoby
[07:07] <ompaul> kalosaurusrex, I suggest launchpad.net and search for a bug, if you see none then report a bug
[07:07] <dtsuei> hi, em, does anybody use vmware server on ubuntu?
[07:07] <mkoby> Anything else I should know, stefg?
[07:08] <bderrly> slonnik, i said to get the libgtk2.0-dev package
[07:08] <stefg> check you PM tab
[07:08] <mkoby> I did.
[07:08] <kristian> bedrrly, the command didn't find the package.
[07:08] <kalosaurusrex> okay thanks ompaul
[07:08] <stefg> you should have received a link to ubuntus sound howto
[07:08] <ompaul> yw kalosaurusrex
[07:08] <mkoby> Thanks for the help, stefg.
[07:08] <slonnik> i installed libgtk2.0-dev and it didnt help i still have error checking for gtk+-2.0 glib-2.0 libgnomeui-2.0 libglade-2.0... Package libgnomeui-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libgnomeui-2.0.pc'
[07:08] <bderrly> kristian, linux-image-k7, sorry
[07:09] <kristian> np :)
[07:09] <bderrly> slonnik, it did help, you aren't erroring out on gtk+-2.0
[07:09] <livingdaylight> yo yo yo!!!
[07:09] <livingdaylight> Hi Guys!!
[07:09] <DocTomoe> Hi ... I had to reinstall kubuntu because my /-partition was physically broken (in the truest sense of that word) ... somehow, the packages for build-essentials does no longer seem to exist, just as the linux kernel headers ... any idea on this?
[07:09] <bderrly> slonnik, why don't you install the dev packages for those packages listed?
[07:09] <kristian> It's already installed :P Nice..
[07:09] <slonnik> you mean libglade ?
[07:09] <fkz> how can i remove a driver that i installed with a file ".run" ?
[07:10] <bderrly> kristian, in your irc client type this:  /exec -o uname -r
[07:10] <bderrly> fkz, /usr/sbin/rmmod
[07:10] <kristian>  /exex -o uname -r
[07:10] <livingdaylight> anyone know the nvidia 6600 gt agp graphics card?
[07:10] <fkz> thx
[07:10] <stefg> !nvidia
[07:10] <ompaul> !nvidia
[07:10] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:10] <alpa> slonnik: try ---> sudo apt-get install gtk-dev gnome-dev
[07:10] <Jack_Sparrow> i have the pci e version
[07:11] <MetaMorfoziS> so, anybody have working 5.1 sound system?
[07:11] <kristian>  /exex -o uname -r
[07:11] <ompaul> livingdaylight, please read the URL that ubotu put in the channel
[07:11] <bderrly> kristian, /exec
[07:11] <kristian> oops
[07:11] <bderrly> don't put a space before it either
[07:11] <kristian>  /exec -o uname -r
[07:11] <bderrly> haha
[07:11] <AlexC> Hey, My Apache2 is not parsing/loading any other filetype apart from HTML, if I go to a .php file it will ask me to downloda it
[07:11] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[07:11] <Unintentional> hey, I'm trying to configure my router to support an ssh server.  is there any port I need to open/forward other than 22?
[07:11] <kristian> Error: Could not find script "-o".
[07:12] <fkz> bderrly,  there is not rmmod file
[07:12] <fkz> or directory
[07:12] <Zambezi> Is anybody familiar with pftp?
[07:12] <b14ck> i have this problem when i try to .configure a package : configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:12] <stefg> !faq>b14k
[07:12] <Zambezi> b14ck, ./configure
[07:12] <bderrly> kristian, on the command line type: uname -r and paste it here
[07:12] <Chousuke> install build-essential
[07:12] <ompaul> b14ck, have yo installed build-essential?
[07:12] <stefg> !faq> b14ck
[07:12] <b14ck> Zambezi: ./configure :P typo
[07:13] <kristian> 2.6.15-25-k7
[07:13] <b14ck> ty stefg
[07:13] <b14ck> ompaul:  no
[07:13] <bderrly> 2.6.15-25-k7
[07:13] <kristian> did you try to msg me bderrly?
[07:13] <ompaul> b14ck, install it sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:13] <bderrly> kristian, what irc client are you using?
[07:13] <kristian> or pm or whater:P..
[07:13] <livingdaylight> ompaul: i don't see any channel by ubotu directed to me
[07:13] <b14ck> ompaul:  apt-get install build-essentials??
[07:13] <kristian> konversation..
[07:13] <bderrly> kristian, i did a ctcp to get your irc client but it didn't respond
[07:13] <ic56-7394> test
[07:13] <b14ck> ompaul: right thanx
[07:14] <DocTomoe> ompaul: that package does not seem to exist at my place
[07:14] <kristian> bderrly, ok :P
[07:14] <ompaul> b14ck, no S at the end
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> knoversation is very good
[07:14] <ompaul> livingdaylight, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto web page - url?
[07:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Using it here too
[07:14] <kristian> nice
[07:14] <fkz> is pentium Centrino considered as a 686 processor?
[07:14] <Waerner> Hmm, can I list all versions of GCC installed on my system?
[07:15] <b14ck> ompaul: just copy/paste ur command
[07:15] <chowells2> fkz: yes, pentium 2 onwards is 686
[07:15] <ompaul> b14ck, should be happy give it your password and be happy
[07:15] <bderrly> Waerner, ls /usr/bin | grep 'gcc'
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> Q: I have a dual boot Powerbook (OSX + Dapper) and I just upgraded to 10.4.7 and yaboot isn't there.. how can i fix that???
[07:15] <Waerner> bderrly, thanks =)
[07:16] <b14ck> ompaul: ^_^
[07:16] <ompaul> Waerner, in 99% of cases build-essential is what is actually wanted, and it does not hurt in the other 1%
[07:16] <ompaul> Waerner, dapper or breezy?
[07:16] <Waerner> ompaul, what? :) I didn't get that... Dapper :)
[07:16] <b14ck> ompaul:  so after thi i should be able to ./configure?
[07:16] <b14ck> *this
[07:16] <kristian> bderrly, as jamesstansell said earlier, he thought it was a little strange that when I do" apt-cache search kernel-headers " i only find old versions. (all 2.4) Do you know how i can fix that?
[07:16] <ompaul> Waerner, then it will be 4.0.3
[07:17] <ompaul> b14ck, YES
[07:17] <Waerner> thanks
[07:17] <b14ck> ty
[07:17] <bderrly> kristian, are you running dapper or breezy?
[07:17] <kristian> dapper
[07:17] <stefg> kristian: try linux-headers instead
[07:17] <AlexC> How can I make it so that when I press the MUTE button on my keyboard, it Mutes ALL audio channels and not just the Master one?
[07:17] <ompaul> b14ck, being on irc it might be more useful if you had a nick like bL4ck cos that 1 gets typed as a lower case l and then you could be missing stuff - being hard to contact
[07:18] <livingdaylight> ompaul: thx for the link. But i'm not ready to install nvidia card yet. I am looking ot get one and wondered what is recommended?
[07:18] <kristian> stefg,nothing happen:P
[07:18] <b14ck> ompaul: gd advice. i'll keep that in mind thanx
[07:20] <MrBrizzio> yeah whats up?
[07:20] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I would not suggest any  but that is me
[07:20] <stefg> kristian: apt-cache search headers | grep linux
[07:21] <finalbeta> I'm playing Enemy terretory. on windows I can use the windows button on the keyboard to exit the window. On linux I need to close the whole game, how can I exit the window without closing th egame?
[07:21] <A[D] minS> !java runtime
[07:21] <ubotu> I know nothing about java runtime
[07:21] <A[D] minS> !java
[07:21] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[07:21] <ompaul> !java
[07:22] <stefg> hehe... ompaul has to grease his keyboard... he's always late :-)
[07:22] <kristian> stefg: Now I found much at version 2.6 ;)
[07:22] <Jack_Sparrow> !disk mounter
[07:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about disk mounter
[07:22] <livingdaylight> ompaul: huh? don't you use a graphics card?
[07:22] <A[D] minS> !mount Jack_Sparrow
[07:22] <ubotu> I know nothing about mount Jack_Sparrow
[07:23] <A[D] minS> !mount
[07:23] <ubotu> Disks store lots of data. Partitioning: try gparted or qtparted  - Formatting: see the manpage for mkfs  - Mounting: system -> administration -> disks
[07:23] <stefg> :-)
[07:23] <kristian> lol,9
[07:23] <kristian> ;)
[07:23] <ompaul> A[D] minS, why not stop fisjhing the bot and use /msg ubotu KEYWORD and then get the message back to you
[07:23] <A[D] minS> ompaul:  i used it only once
[07:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !diskmounter
[07:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[07:23] <AlexC> A[D] minS, More than once!
[07:23] <A[D] minS> da other one for Jack_Sparrow> !disk mounter
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Just checking, that script is great..
[07:24] <Jack_Sparrow> wanted to be sure the bot had info
[07:24] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I don't tell people about cards - that is for them to find out about
[07:24] <A[D] minS> any way sorry
[07:24] <A[D] minS> next time will not use ur bot
[07:24] <refuze> anybody use an ipod with dapper?
[07:24] <A[D] minS> brb
[07:24] <ompaul> A[D] minS, don't sweat it
[07:24] <ompaul> !ipod
[07:24] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[07:25] <amortvigil> what is your DMA?
[07:25] <ompaul> A[D] minS, what you really wanted was - !keyword > username
[07:26] <kristian> can a helping soul help me with my graphic card?
[07:26] <ompaul> amortvigil, check that out on wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:26] <ompaul> kristian, what one is it?
[07:26] <AlexC> How can I make it so that when I press the MUTE button on my keyboard, it Mutes ALL audio channels and not just the Master one?
[07:26] <livingdaylight> ompaul: ok... :|
[07:26] <kristian> ati
[07:26] <fredmorcos> hey guys
[07:26] <refuze> ompaul: no i don't need software for it, i can't get it mounted
[07:26] <fredmorcos> i split a file into 2 parts... how can i joing it back?
[07:26] <penguin42> AlexC: I'm curious why you want to mount them all - the master should have the same audible effect
[07:26] <ompaul> livingdaylight, see I don't use nvidia so what would I know about them
[07:27] <AlexC> penguin42, No, I have 5.1 surround sound - and to get that working I've had to enable the Wave Surround Channel. So I can get my rear speakers working
[07:27] <Jack_Sparrow> _Fre depends on the app that split it
[07:27] <AlexC> penguin42, because of this, if I mute the master channel it will only  mute the front speakers and not the rear,
[07:27] <livingdaylight> ompaul: what do you use?  '<  i thought the general consensus is that we support nvidia as they support linux
[07:27] <penguin42> AlexC: And the master doesn't mute that?
[07:27] <penguin42> ah got you
[07:27] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, i used "split"
[07:28] <AlexC> penguin42, yeh, so it's quite annoying really
[07:28] <fkz> men
[07:28] <kristian> ompaul, it's ati. I understand u have experience with it because you have it yourself?
[07:28] <Jack_Sparrow> fredmorcos: then the same tool should combine it with a command line option or ?
[07:28] <penguin42> AlexC: Is there any channel which does represent everything? I can see on the applet on the bar that you can choose which device to control - so I think you could pick any one mixer control
[07:29] <ompaul> kristian, I have an ati and it worked out of the box with dapper xgl did not work and I am not interested in 3d
[07:29] <fkz> i followed all the instruction of this page to install my gc : 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI' but it put black screen on login, then i just had to copy the backup xorg.conf, what can i do?
[07:29] <AlexC> penguin42, yeh I know about setting the applet to what channel you want to control. I think i'll go through every channel ( eeek ) and see if one does actualy mute them all
[07:29] <schmakk> allright, i need help compiling banshee plugins.. i need glib-2.2.0 or higher installed, but i cant find any in the repository.. do i have to compile it from source?
[07:29] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, no it doesn't.. it only splits files...
[07:29] <kristian> ompaul, ok :) can u help me setup my driver?
[07:29] <stefg> fkz: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:29] <ompaul> livingdaylight, I don't have one - I have random cards
[07:29] <penguin42> AlexC: You might want to submit a bug report on the Volume Applet about that
[07:30] <AlexC> penguin42, how do I do that?
[07:30] <ompaul> kristian, it worked out of the box - no issues what is the exact nature of the problem?
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fredmorcos: where did you get that program?
[07:30] <amortvigil> if i want to upgrade from breezy to dapper i have to change all breezys to dapper in the packet source list issnt it?
[07:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Is it in the debs?
[07:30] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, it comes with ubuntu :D
[07:30] <VoX> amortvigil: yep
[07:30] <Ries> is it possible to run mysql4 on dapper server? By default it want's to install mysql4
[07:30] <Ries> sorry..... default mysql5
[07:30] <refuze> anybody here get their ipod to mount using 6.06?
[07:30] <stefg> amortvigil: there's an ubgrade guide availabl
[07:30] <AlexC> amortvigil, no - you should just be able to do sudo apt-get distupgrade I think
[07:30] <kristian> the driver is installed for amd athlon 64, but it's not enabled :S
[07:30] <Guvnor-> hello
[07:31] <VoX> AlexC: uh no
[07:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fred, which menu option?
[07:31] <AlexC> VoX, didn't think so =)
[07:31] <schmakk> amortvigil, theres an updated update-manager that can handle the upgrade for you, if you prefer the easy way
[07:31] <penguin42> AlexC: You can report bugs here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs
[07:31] <ompaul> Ries, you can install 4.1
[07:31] <stefg> !upgrade
[07:31] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:31] <AlexC> penguin42, thanks
[07:31] <fkz> stefg, i just had to replace the word "ati" by "fglrx", so i did "sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.con" like it is said i the Howto i just paste
[07:31] <ompaul> Ries, mysql-server-4.1
[07:31] <kristian> ompaul, the driver is installed for amd athlon 64, but it's not enabled :S I don't really now what to do, because the Mesa drivers are the chief right now...
[07:31] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, split -b SIZE INPUT_FILE
[07:32] <penguin42> AlexC: If I wanted to hack a mute to do what you wanted to do then I'd use a little script to do it (using amixer ?) and then bind that to a key somehow
[07:32] <Ries> ompaul: apt-cache search doesn-t give my mysql-4.1, only 5.0
[07:32] <CarlFK> "Totem could not play 'file:///tmp/A MOMENT.mpeg'.  You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. " - shouldn't mpeg be one of the formats supported by default ?
[07:32] <stefg> fkz: there might be other issues ... do the dpkg-reconfigure, and choose no automatic detection.. pick fglrx driver
[07:32] <stefg> won't hurt
[07:33] <Ries> ompaul: I did disable the universe repository, since that give my errors during update....
[07:33] <ompaul> !info mysql-server-4.1
[07:33] <ubotu> mysql-server-4.1: mysql database server binaries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4.1.15-1ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 16633 kB, installed size 37224 kB
[07:33] <ompaul> Ries, well now you know what your problem is
[07:33] <swim> folks, I'm having issues running compiz+xgl. I followed the howto's but when I try to start gnome it starts up for a few seconds and closes returning me back to gdm. (i have an nvidia-legacy card, but I didnt read anywhere that that should be an issue.)
[07:33] <Guvnor-> how can i install c compiler for Ubuntu?
[07:33] <Guvnor-> and make?
[07:33] <stefg> !build
[07:33] <Guvnor-> i cant use eggdrop on Ubuntu cause of this
[07:33] <Ries> ompaul: let me see if apt-get update works on universe......
[07:33] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[07:34] <Waerner> Guvnor-,    apt-get install gcc g++ make
[07:34] <swim> Guvnor-: install build-essentials
[07:34] <ompaul> swim, there is no s at the end of that
[07:34] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, i got it, it's cat FILE1 FILE2 FILE3 ... >> OUT_FILE
[07:34] <fredmorcos> Jack_Sparrow, thanks :)
[07:34] <stbrenner> sometimes when i'm on sites like purevolume that use streaming audio (flash) i cannot hear anything...other times theres no problems..anyone had this problem?
[07:34] <ompaul> Guvnor-, you need build-essential
[07:34] <Waerner> Guvnor-, eeh, do as swim said instead :P
[07:34] <swim> in that case install build-essential
[07:35] <Guvnor-> Ok
[07:35] <Guvnor-> and what build-essentials i need?
[07:35] <ompaul> Waerner, we have a meta package for all that called build-essential
[07:35] <penguin42> stbrenner: It normally depends if something else has the sound card and how the browser is talking to the sound card (using ESD, Alsa or directly) - it can get messy
[07:35] <Guvnor-> will it install automaticaly or i have to ?
[07:35] <amortvigil> lol fellows the easy upgrade guide i have to change all breezy's in dappers ... can i still keep de badger where it stands?
[07:35] <kristian> ompaul, if u just want to take it from the start, i can remove the fglrx drivers, if i find out how, and we can do the install from the beginning:)
[07:35] <ompaul> Guvnor-, the package is called >>> build-essential <<< no s at the end
[07:35] <Waerner> ompaul, yeah, I thought so when I saw what swin wrote :P
[07:35] <AidyMole> is there some metapackage that installs all the autotools like automake and autoconf
[07:36] <stbrenner> penguin42, is there anything in the wiki you know of that could help me troubleshoot?
[07:36] <penguin42> stbrenner: I don't know the wiki contents well
[07:36] <ompaul> Waerner, all the gcc etc is that - say that it saves people coming back
[07:36] <swim> folks, I'm having issues running compiz+xgl. I followed the howto's but when I try to start gnome it starts up for a few seconds and closes returning me back to gdm. (i have an nvidia-legacy card, but I didnt read anywhere that that should be an issue.)
[07:36] <Guvnor-> ompaul:  thanks guys
[07:36] <ompaul> !xgl
[07:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:36] <AidyMole> is there some metapackage that installs all the autotools like automake and autoconf
[07:37] <swim> ompaul: I have followed that how to.
[07:37] <Guvnor-> one more thing i use a VPN Dialiar for authentication for my internet how can i use it for Ubuntu?
[07:37] <Guvnor-> its .exe
[07:38] <Waerner> Guvnor-, .exe files are for Windows, and cannot be run on Linux...
[07:38] <penguin42> Guvnor-: You could give wine a go; but if its VPN stuff I'd be surprised if it coped - I'd suggest trying to look for a Linux program that did the same thing
[07:39] <Guvnor-> Penguin:  yes thats what i mean.
[07:39] <Guvnor-> what program you guys suggest?
[07:39] <Guvnor-> I'm fedup of windows trying to switch on..
[07:39] <penguin42> Guvnor-: What _exactly_ does vpn dialler do ? It sounds like its not just a dial up program? Which ISP is it and have they got any instructions?
[07:39] <Grogs> Does anyone have any idea why when i try to browse an NTFS drive I get told:  error: device /dev/sda1 is not removable
[07:39] <Grogs> error: could not execute pmount
[07:40] <ompaul> swim, go to the channel #ubunt-xgl is also in that - they have wideranging experiance in xgl
[07:40] <swim> ompaul: thanks, I just re-read your post and got that part... (read it too fast the first time)
[07:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Ah, thats better
[07:41] <Guvnor-> its a vpn device name: WAN miniport (PPTP)
[07:41] <Joe1011> Hi, I installed ubuntu with gnome, and it seems to be running slow with 100% cpu utilization when I move desktop items around, is there a reason for that?
[07:41] <Guvnor-> server type is: PPP
[07:41] <Guvnor-> and authentication is: MS CHAPV2
[07:41] <kristian> ompaul, is it only 9700 se and x300 cards from ati which can use xgl?
[07:41] <ompaul> kristian, all I can offer you is in a terminal, or at the console, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:42] <Guvnor-> any idea?
[07:42] <swim> Guvnor-: have you searched using either "apt-cache search" or synaptic?
[07:42] <ompaul> kristian, I believe there are others please ask in #ubuntu-xgl for a better answer
[07:43] <Guvnor-> swim:  no but i want to know how to do it first can you guys please guide ?
[07:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs: USe the diskmounter script
[07:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs: it says you dont need to restart, but I didnt see the partitions drives on desktop until I did..
[07:44] <unity> hello, does anyone here know how to deny a particular process access to the internet?
[07:44] <Grogs> Alright Jack_Sparrow ... I'm ind of ignorent... how do i use that?
[07:44] <swim> Guvnor-: go up to your third menu to the right on the top left of the screen... then down to system... and finally select synaptic
[07:44] <penguin42> unity: Difficult; it can be done with SELinux - but that is a PITA to setup
[07:44] <Grogs> Where do I get it?
[07:45] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs, if you read the help in the script, it says go to term run sudo bash diskmounter
[07:46] <unity> penguin42: does iptables have a facility for this?
[07:46] <penguin42> unity: Not that I know if
[07:46] <unity> =(
[07:46] <Grogs> Jack_Sparrow, I don't have the sc ript.
[07:46] <unity> any clever things i can do with chroot?
[07:46] <Guvnor-> swim:  thanks
[07:46] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[07:46] <swim> Guvnor-: sure
[07:46] <Grogs> thanks :)
[07:46] <foxiness> if i use WEP Encryption on my wlan on my home can ubuntu support it ?
[07:46] <unity> like install it into a chrooted envirorment that has no ethernet interfaces
[07:47] <penguin42> unity: Not that I know of; one way that might be easier is to set up a virtual machine using VMWare/Xen/UML and not give the VM any netwokring
[07:47] <unity> (i don't know much about chroot)
[07:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs:  drag from web page to desktop then you will need to move to "Grog" folder
[07:47] <Blissex> foxiness: that depends on the driver for the card you use. Choose carefully which WiFi card you buy. Most won't work or work badly.
[07:47] <unity> penguin42: i am afraid that would have dire effects on performance, because i am trying to run quake4 without access to the internet
[07:47] <Grogs> ok :)
[07:48] <penguin42> unity: Haha ok; ah in that case are you really just trying to block a particular port or destination IP - that can easily be done with iptables
[07:48] <tich> hi. whenever i restart my computer the network manager asks me for a keyring password. is there anyway for it to memorize the password instead?
[07:48] <Grogs> It gives me an "Unsupported Operation" message upon dragging it.
[07:48] <bungley> rararar
[07:49] <swim> can I move windows when in "failsafe xterm" mode?
[07:49] <bungley> I feel horribly noobish asking this, but has anyone had issues with 3d and the ati fglrx driver, such that the logs appear to check out but the sw mesa stuff is still used instead?
[07:49] <Stormx2> Is there a good panel applet to read rss feeds?
[07:49] <foxiness> Blissex, i have centrino laptop 'acer aspire' and it work with ubuntu out of box with out "WEP Encryption" but now am change it to enable WEP Encryption to increase the secure of my wlan
[07:50] <Jack_Sparrow> grog, go to #Jack_Sparrow I pasted it there for you
[07:50] <Grogs> ok :)
[07:50] <Blissex> foxiness: Centrino should work.
[07:51] <StreetSpirit> i'm about to install ubuntu for the first time. i'm going to be dual booting it. do you guys recommend I stick to fat32 or will this release handle NTFS without problems?
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs: Please do NOT enable NTFS write support
[07:51] <Grogs> Ok
[07:51] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: Use fat32
[07:51] <Grogs> But I'd like to be able to read it. ;)
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> StreetSpirit:  keep it at read only for ntfs
[07:51] <Blissex> StreetSpirit: use the 'ext3' driver for MS Windows it works really well.
[07:51] <bungley> Blissex: cruel
[07:51] <foxiness> Blissex, good ,thanks for your help man :)
[07:51] <StreetSpirit> penguin42, if I need to say modify some file a month down the line, is ntfs write possible, or is it just not working at all?
[07:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Yes script sets ntfs to read only
[07:51] <Grogs> You can read/write to ext3 on Windows?
[07:52] <bungley> or am I behind the times?
[07:52] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: I really wouldn't trust NTFS write on my discs
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> No
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> i don't think windows groks ext3
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> gotcha
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> there was some work on that but MS dropped it.
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> so fat32 it is ten
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[07:52] <ompaul> StreetSpirit, if you write and loose all your data you will not be happy
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> then*
[07:52] <Grogs> yes, but a plugin to do it?
[07:52] <proctor> i have some partitons probs as well..mounting rather
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> ompaul- true .
[07:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Plugin to do what?
[07:52] <StreetSpirit> reading works without trouble however, right?
[07:53] <johan_> I'm having a problem with apt-get/gpg/whatever it is. Since the text is long, I've posted it on pastebin, here: http://pastebin.ca/76482.
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> proctor, whats the prob..
[07:53] <Blissex> bungley: why? I have got all my MS Windows partitions as 'ext3' except the boto one.
[07:53] <Grogs> So the only fileformat which both OS support is vfat?
[07:53] <StreetSpirit> i ask mainly due to the fact that i keep a terrabyte of media on ntfs
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs yes
[07:53] <Blissex> Grogs: yes you can with an unofficial driver. There are severtal.
[07:53] <Jack_Sparrow> StreetSpirit:  it reads fine
[07:53] <Frogzoo> Grogs: or ext2 - use the winext2 driver
[07:53] <StreetSpirit> cool
[07:53] <Grogs> ok, ext3?
[07:53] <proctor> i have a hdd that installed ubuntu on..has 200gb of data too, but no windows os
[07:54] <Blissex> Grogs: the best 'ext' driver for MS Windows is http://WWW.FS-driver.org/ which supports 'ext3' but in non-journal mode under MS Windows.
[07:54] <proctor> i partitioned it adn cant read the data
[07:54] <penguin42> johan_: Check the perms on your .gpg directory is only readable and writeable ny you
[07:54] <Grogs> oh
[07:54] <Jack_Sparrow> proctor, so you just want to mount it and read or read write
[07:54] <StreetSpirit> who knows.. windows might be a thing of the past if i begin to use this os
[07:54] <foxiness> before i do distro-upgrade ubuntu can mount windows partition and name it "ACER" after i complete the apt-get dist-upgrade ,its not there any more ! i dont know what happen
[07:54] <EddieDaMan> hi all
[07:54] <proctor> yeah just read [ntfs]  while the other 3 partitons are the swap/ext3
[07:54] <EddieDaMan> would anyone be so kind as to help my fix my wireless connection?
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> proctor:  DO you need help mounting it?
[07:55] <foxiness> EddieDaMan, ask
[07:55] <EddieDaMan> lol
[07:55] <StreetSpirit> guys, i have 3 external drives. 1 usb and two firewire... does ubuntu have drivers for handling all of it? will it recognize them on boot?
[07:55] <swim> anyone happen to know if I can move windows when in "failsafe xterm" mode?
[07:55] <cwillu> how long should I expect it to take to finish "Building LTSP chroot"?  It's been at exactly 50% for about 30 minutes now, although there's still disk activity...
[07:55] <StreetSpirit> or install rather?
[07:55] <stefg> foxiness: it's probably still there but a couple of things changed in gnome
[07:55] <proctor> i think ill figure it out, i will get back on here a little later
[07:55] <Gacus> join #ubuntu-pl
[07:55] <Grogs> I still don't know how to mount these drives. :(
[07:55] <Gacus> ups:P sorry :)
[07:55] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: It should recognise USB and firewire discs - not too sure if you will see them on boot
[07:55] <ompaul> !wireless > EddieDaMan
[07:55] <StreetSpirit> ah
[07:55] <ompaul> EddieDaMan, check the ubotu message
[07:55] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs:  since you were first.. I'll start with you
[07:56] <StreetSpirit> so it;s a matter of learning how to mount them
[07:56] <johan_> penguin42: -rw------- 1 root  johan  8084 2006-07-01 18:16 gpg.conf
[07:56] <foxiness> stefg, ah ,coz i like it
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs:  did you run the script
[07:56] <EddieDaMan> thanks
[07:56] <ompaul> np
[07:56] <penguin42> johan_: What about the directory that is in ?
[07:56] <Grogs> No
[07:56] <Jack_Sparrow> StreetSpirit:  go to #Jack_Sparrow and get that script
[07:56] <Frogzoo> !ext2fsd is <reply> ext2fsd is a Windows driver that gives access to ext2/3 partitions: see http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsd
[07:56] <Grogs> I downloaded it, but havn't got anywhre from there, it's on my desktop.
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> So move it to your "Usernamed" folder
[07:57] <StreetSpirit> Jack_Sparrow- what exactly does the script do?
[07:57] <stefg> foxiness: simply type mount in a terminal, then you'll see wht's mounted where
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> It mounts all drives that it finds
[07:57] <johan_> penguin42: drwx------  2 johan johan   4096 2006-07-01 18:16 .gnupg
[07:57] <StreetSpirit> perfect
[07:57] <Grogs> ok :)
[07:57] <penguin42> johan_: hmm that looks happy
[07:57] <StreetSpirit> how do i grab it? :)
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs:  go to terminal and type sudo bask diskmounter
[07:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bash
[07:57] <Grogs> ok
[07:58] <rak_> i know this is a long shot but anyone know of a way to sync a windows mobile phone to linux?
[07:58] <StreetSpirit> Jack_Sparrow- should i have dcc working for this or .. ?
[07:58] <foxiness> stefg, ah you try to say its mount like on /mnt/windows ? but not apper on filemanger like before
[07:58] <StreetSpirit> is there a link or something?
[07:58] <johan_> penguin42: yep. Anyone who has got initng compiled then? Or just a good .deb file?
[07:58] <Jack_Sparrow> no just cut and paste as text
[07:58] <StreetSpirit> there's no topic on the server i'm on
[07:58] <Jack_Sparrow> or go to
[07:58] <duelboot> how do I get wpa_supplicant to automatically run each time I boot up?
[07:58] <StreetSpirit> the channel is empty..
[07:58] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[07:58] <Grogs> I have the script
[07:58] <bungley> Blissex: in that case I really must be behind the times.
[07:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Sorry one sec
[07:58] <Grogs> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[07:58] <Grogs> Greg Dorrell (grogs)
[07:58] <Grogs> Do you want to make the disk writable by all users instead? (y/n)
[07:58] <Grogs> how should i reply to that?
[07:59] <ompaul> !paste
[07:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:59] <ompaul> !enter
[07:59] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[07:59] <Jack_Sparrow> grog yes then no
[07:59] <stefg> foxiness: i don't know where it's mounted, /you/ 'll hav to find out. But yes it will sometimes not appaer in the filemanager
[07:59] <Grogs> ok :)
[08:00] <StreetSpirit> it's up on pastebin? :)
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs if you dont see the drives on desktop restart
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> street, http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[08:00] <foxiness> stefg, thanks for help :) i will see this after i reboot to my ubuntu
[08:00] <Grogs> ok, thank you very much! :)
[08:00] <StreetSpirit> ah.. cool
[08:00] <StreetSpirit> thanks
[08:00] <Grogs> Yeah,s eems I need to reboot.
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> did it work grogs
[08:00] <StreetSpirit> excuse my denseness :)
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:00] <Grogs> Will reboot and come back whether it works or not.
[08:00] <lophyte> back
[08:00] <duelboot> how do I get wpa_supplicant to automatically load every time I boot?
[08:00] <Jack_Sparrow> Helping where I can
[08:01] <StreetSpirit> ooh! nice.. resources :)
[08:01] <ljlolel> x-chat periodically puts a red line across the ubuntu irc chat screen, what is the purpose of the red line?
[08:01] <StreetSpirit> very nice. thanks Jack_Sparrow
[08:01] <lophyte> ljlolel: to show you where you minimized it last
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[08:01] <duelboot> ljlolel, it marks where you were when you left
[08:01] <kimo> !dpkg prozilla
[08:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about dpkg prozilla
[08:01] <StreetSpirit> i wish someone would write up a few good links such as this one for the newbies like myself :)
[08:01] <ljlolel> oh, that's useful
[08:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Street, we are as fast as we can
[08:01] <kimo> why doesnt ubuntu have prozilla, while debian does ?? http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla
[08:02] <[0x90] > apt-get install prozilla
[08:02] <[0x90] > duuh
[08:02] <ompaul> Jack_Sparrow, when you type the first few letters then hit tab it completes names on IRC
[08:02] <[0x90] > it you have the debian package, you can install it on ubuntu :S
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> ompaul: yea, but I have fat finger
[08:02] <Jack_Sparrow> s
[08:02] <kimo> [0x90] : I am correct, it's not in ubuntu, right ?
[08:02] <bungley> [0x90] : dodgy
[08:02] <[0x90] > ah
[08:03] <StreetSpirit> apt-get works in ubuntu? neato
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[08:03] <[0x90] > 'course
[08:03] <kimo> StreetSpirit: lol, sure
[08:03] <[0x90] > ubuntu is based on debian
[08:03] <ompaul>  Package prozilla does not exist in dapper
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> synaptic too
[08:03] <StreetSpirit> heh, i'm a newbie, remember :)
[08:03] <StreetSpirit> good to know
[08:03] <kimo> weird, prozilla is very popular
[08:03] <duelboot> how do I get wpa_supplicant to load automatically every time I boot
[08:03] <StreetSpirit> so any debian package should work then
[08:03] <[0x90] > oh, i tought i was talking in governmentsecurity :S
[08:03] <ompaul> installing random debs from other places can break your system in new and interesting ways
[08:03] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: Ish
[08:03] <Jack_Sparrow> street, not all.
[08:04] <StreetSpirit> ah
[08:04] <bungley> prozilla doesn't appear to exist in debian stable either.
[08:04] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: It relies on a package being dependent on the same version of everything else on the system
[08:04] <bungley> just woody...
[08:04] <ompaul> kimo, was it in SID in Febuary?
[08:04] <StreetSpirit> why do people choose debian over ubuntu or vice versa?
[08:04] <kimo> ompaul: not sure .. http://packages.debian.org/oldstable/net/prozilla
[08:04] <StreetSpirit> (what actually is different? if I understand, it's the same kernel, same gui?)
[08:04] <[0x90] > i dont have a fucking idea
[08:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Why do people pick chevy or ford
[08:04] <bungley> StreetSpirit: different tools different jobs
[08:04] <ljlolel> ubuntu has newer packages, debian is super-stable
[08:04] <penguin42> StreetSpirit: And that is very rarely true - so generally you have a fair chance of rebuilding a debian .deb from source, but a poor one of just installing it
[08:04] <duelboot> !language
[08:04] <StreetSpirit> ah
[08:04] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:04] <ompaul> StreetSpirit, that is not a support qestion please move it to the channel #ubuntu-offtopic this is a support channel thanks :-)
[08:04] <amortvigil> how can you check wich ubuntu version you have i got ubuntu bserver edition
[08:04] <kimo> StreetSpirit: ubuntu polished for desktop user
[08:05] <penguin42> amortvigil: /etc/issue
[08:05] <duelboot> ompaul, speaking of a support channel...how do I get wpa_supplicant to load automatically every time I boot?
[08:05] <Grogs> Thank you very much Jack_Sparrow , it's working fine. :D
[08:05] <StreetSpirit> Gotcha.. Just trying to understand a bit more..
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs is back.. did it work
[08:05] <Jack_Sparrow> VEry cool
[08:05] <Grogs> :)
[08:05] <Grogs> thanks
[08:05] <StreetSpirit> Time for me to take the dive and install it.
[08:05] <ompaul> duelboot, ask the channel, I don't do wireless
[08:05] <ompaul> :-)
[08:05] <duelboot> I have 3 times
[08:05] <StreetSpirit> I can also just boot to the dvd?
[08:05] <amortvigil> penguin42: does nothing
[08:06] <ompaul> !wireless > duelboot
[08:06] <penguin42> amortvigil: It's a text file with the linux installation type in
[08:06] <duelboot> thx ompaul
[08:06] <sktx> StreetSpirit: you fixing to make your rig an ubuntu-only system?
[08:06] <Jack_Sparrow> Street I will be here if you hit a glitch
[08:06] <ompaul> duelboot, now I can say check the stuff from ubotu
[08:06] <Grogs> How is networking on Ubuntu? I have two computers (wired) on Ubuntu, I'd like to at least share the printer on this computer the other one. is that possible, if so how do i go about doing it?
[08:06] <StreetSpirit> well, not quite right now
[08:06] <Bassetts> i have had a bug open almost a month unconfirmed, what can i do?
[08:06] <StreetSpirit> but that would be the ultimate goal
[08:06] <StreetSpirit> of course i need to relearn just about everything
[08:06] <ompaul> Bassetts, give me the bug number please
[08:07] <Bassetts> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/49115
[08:07] <Grogs> StreetSpirit, today was the secon d time I isntalled, last tiem I deleted my Master Boot Record for windows, but this time it wasn't a problem.
[08:07] <StreetSpirit> (my unix knowledge is almost nonexistant)
[08:07] <sktx> StreetSpirit: cool.. i started with a dual boot system myself
[08:07] <StreetSpirit> oh boy :)
[08:07] <Bassetts> and i have another bug that got "needs more info", i added info and nothing more...
[08:07] <StreetSpirit> Let's hope I don't nuke the mbr ;)
[08:07] <sktx> StreetSpirit: but i probably booted windows like 3 times after that
[08:07] <StreetSpirit> I am really just.. Tired of windows
[08:07] <ompaul> Bassetts, I would add to that the config you had and just leave it
[08:07] <mirza> hello
[08:07] <lophyte> StreetSpirit: that's the wonderful thing about Ubuntu.. it doesn't require a whole lot of unix knowledge ;)
[08:07] <StreetSpirit> It's slow, it's unstable
[08:08] <StreetSpirit> The WGA crap is overbearing
[08:08] <mirza> how to play mms:// type at ubuntu breezy
[08:08] <Frogzoo> Bassetts: ~ 50000 bugs dude, Rome wasn't etc...
[08:08] <sktx> StreetSpirit: in my experience, the partitioning tool that's on the CD is pretty reliable.. i've never once had it bork a drive on me
[08:08] <ompaul> Bassetts, you have not said breezy dapper or anything
[08:08] <Bassetts> ompaul: my current xorg.conf? or the one that didnt allow the res i wanted??
[08:08] <Grogs> Gonn really miss two programs from Windows though. :(
[08:08] <ompaul> Bassetts, the current one that works
[08:08] <sktx> which programs are those
[08:08] <StreetSpirit> When you say CD , that would also apply to the DVD?
[08:08] <Bassetts> ompaul: i just got told to submit a bug and they gave me the URL, i did my best :(
[08:08] <mirza> how to play mms:// type at ubuntu breezy cause i use totem it said not supported
[08:08] <Grogs> Foobar2000 and Directory Opus.
[08:09] <StreetSpirit> I burned the dvd (unfortunately my dvd-rw is borked and refuses to burn cds)
[08:09] <Frogzoo> Grogs: tried wine?
[08:09] <mirza> what apt-get install to listen mms://
[08:09] <sktx> hrmm... can't say i've ever heard of em
[08:09] <zam-aliphe> how to install the ssh servis
[08:09] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:09] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:09] <mirza> zam-aliphe, try apt-get install sshd
[08:09] <mirza> or ssh i forgot
[08:09] <ompaul> and maybe the other for a compare and contrast - mention your distro - it won't be fixed in dapper or previous but should not be there in the future (if we are lucky)
[08:09] <Snellgrove> anyone else getting CRC errors when trying to unpack the VMWare Server .tar.gz file?
[08:09] <Grogs> Nope Frogzoo, I can cope with foobar2000 though, but I NEED Directory Opus (a filemanager)
[08:09] <Frogzoo> !appdb > Grogs
[08:09] <lophyte> mirza: I believe its ssh-server
[08:09] <saxin> zam-aliphe, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:09] <StreetSpirit> i'm going to run into multimedia issues quite a lot. that's basically what the pc is used for..
[08:09] <StreetSpirit> :)
[08:09] <lophyte> StreetSpirit: like what?
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs have yuoused Nautilus?
[08:10] <Grogs> Hehe, I've got as far as installin g WINE with automatix, not even  configured it yet
[08:10] <mirza> yeah
[08:10] <mirza> :D
[08:10] <Grogs> Is that the default Jack_Sparrow ?
[08:10] <StreetSpirit> well, for example we get iptv as part of the internet package
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs have you used Nautilus?
[08:10] <Grogs> ^^^
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> hrmm, I cannot figure out what satellite my reciever is hooked into
[08:10] <StreetSpirit> (fios iptv, ifc, bravo, sundance stuff)
[08:10] <mirza> anyone can ive me a clue about y prob ?
[08:10] <lophyte> iptv? never heard of it..
[08:10] <StreetSpirit> and obviously it requires microsoft/drm
[08:10] <ompaul> mirza, rather than guessing leave it be and maybe someone else can hav a shot at it - zam-aliphe it is openssh-server
[08:10] <mirza> my tote not support mms://
[08:10] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs go to places desktop and it opens
[08:10] <Frogzoo> Grogs: a file manager won't work through wine - linux uses a different file system
[08:10] <StreetSpirit> would i be able to run this kind of stuff through wine?
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> !RestrictedFormats
[08:10] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:10] <ompaul> mirza, please don't repeat you make it hard for people to answer existing questions
[08:10] <fyrestrtr> ^ for you, mirza.
[08:10] <mirza> :D
[08:10] <Grogs> Frogzoo , I've heard of other users of the program who said that ti worked.
[08:11] <richee> ardchoille: Hi remember me
[08:11] <mirza> ^_^
[08:11] <Frogzoo> !appdb > StreetSpirit
[08:11] <ompaul> !enter
[08:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:11] <Munchkinguy> Why is there no "add" button under the "connections" tab in the Network Administration Tool?
[08:11] <Grogs> Jack_Sparrow, the default filemanager is nothing compared to Directory Opus, it's similar to Explorer.
[08:11] <Badm4n> ubotu, tell me about mms
[08:11] <ompaul> Badm4n, please read what ubotu said about enter thanks
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about mms
[08:11] <StreetSpirit> ic
[08:11] <Frogzoo> Grogs: ok, but file permissions will be interesting
[08:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Street, you are flirting with disaster
[08:11] <ompaul> Badm4n, msg the bot
[08:11] <StreetSpirit> nice bot commands ;)
[08:11] <StreetSpirit> heh jack , don't i know it
[08:11] <StreetSpirit> windows self destructed yesterday
[08:11] <Grogs> Just don't change them ;)
[08:11] <Badm4n> ubotu mms player
[08:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about mms player
[08:11] <Draconicus> What can I use to extract the contents of .7z files?
[08:12] <StreetSpirit> i just now am getting it to some semblance of normality..
[08:12] <ompaul> Badm4n, one more time, please msg the bot
[08:12] <StreetSpirit> and i am tired of that happening..
[08:12] <lophyte> Draconicus: there's a package called 7zip you can install
[08:12] <Badm4n> ubotu I know nothing about mms player
[08:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about I know nothing about mms player
[08:12] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:12] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <Draconicus> lophyte: Thanks.
[08:12] <Badm4n> it say not know :(
[08:12] <Draconicus> lophyte: E: Couldn't find package 7zip
[08:12] <lophyte> Draconicus: sorry, its called "p7zip"
[08:12] <Draconicus> lophyte: Thanks again.
[08:12] <ompaul> Badm4n, read wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats thank you
[08:12] <lophyte> np :)
[08:12] <StreetSpirit> well, let's see how it goes :) the worst that could happen is I'll have a dual boot system with a missing MBR :)
[08:13] <Zambezi> Is anybody familiar with pftp?
[08:13] <stelki> Hello, is anybody else suffering from general X fonts becoming alot smaller after installing nvidia-glx?
[08:13] <ompaul> Zambezi, ask a more detailed question and no I know nothing of that ftp server
[08:13] <Jack_Sparrow> street, remember you can boot to a floppy or 98 cd and fdisk /mbr
[08:13] <zam-aliphe> how to install the ssh servis
[08:13] <fyrestrtr> stelki: adjust your dpi settings.
[08:13] <zam-aliphe> to make my pc ssh server ?
[08:13] <lophyte> zam-aliphe: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[08:14] <fyrestrtr> zam-aliphe: install openssh-server
[08:14] <Zambezi> ompaul, I need help to make it work. I read helpfile and I'm totally confused.
[08:14] <Sfyler> plop
[08:14] <stelki> fyrestrtr: could you give me a hint as to how I do that? is it a xorg config setting?
[08:14] <swaj_> If I plan on running Cedega for gaming should I stick with the x86 version of Ubuntu?  Even though I have an Athlon 64 X2?
[08:14] <zam-aliphe> lophyte:  then how to start it
[08:14] <lophyte> zam-aliphe: it starts automatically
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> stelki: yes :)
[08:15] <zam-aliphe> lophyte: i get openssh-server is already the newest version.
[08:15] <iGama> ppl i need help :S does anyone have a zt3000 or an nx7000 with fglrx?
[08:15] <fyrestrtr> swaj_: yes.
[08:15] <lophyte> zam-aliphe: then it should already be installed
[08:15] <F0LL0W3R> heey how can i make the openssh-server being worked ? i have installed it but how can i work on it ?
[08:15] <zam-aliphe> lophyte: now how to start
[08:15] <ompaul> zam-aliphe, install putty on the windows machine and read its help file
[08:16] <stelki> fyrestrtr: okay cool, thanks dude
[08:16] <zam-aliphe>    /etc/init.d/ssh start didnot work
[08:16] <Badm4n>  sudo apt-get install mplayer-586
[08:16] <Badm4n> cannot find anything
[08:16] <Badm4n> :((
[08:16] <ompaul> F0LL0W3R, when installed it works - >>ssh -C username@machine << is linux to linux
[08:17] <F0LL0W3R> ompaul aha
[08:17] <Grogs> How do i ge tto my WINE folder? I don't see it in my home directory? :S
[08:17] <ompaul> Badm4n, stop using enter after two or three words - say full detailedt things thanks
[08:17] <lophyte> Grogs: ~/.wine
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> Grogs: ls -la ~
[08:17] <lophyte> Grogs: its hidden :)
[08:17] <Badm4n> ok
[08:17] <ompaul> !multiverse > Badm4n
[08:17] <Grogs> can I un-hide it?
[08:17] <iGama> ppl i need help :S does anyone have a zt3000 or an nx7000 with fglrx??
[08:17] <Munchkinguy> Why is there no "add" button under the "connections" tab in the Network Administration Tool?
[08:17] <iGama> i need modelines :s
[08:17] <ompaul> Badm4n, that was on the page I pointed you to you obviously did not read enough
[08:17] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs what are you trying to do?
[08:17] <metallord> hello everybody
[08:17] <fyrestrtr> iGama: google it.
[08:17] <Grogs> anyone who cna help :)
[08:18] <Sfyler> somebody know the scool named supinfo ?
[08:18] <Sfyler> school*
[08:18] <iGama> fyrestrtr, i tryd , but it loogs like the only page that has them is ofline
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> iGama: the nx7000 is at the office, so I can't help you with the modelines :)
[08:18] <F0LL0W3R> ompaul thx it worked now :-)
[08:18] <metallord> I need some help in order to run ghamachi,anybody can help me please?
[08:18] <lophyte> Grogs: you're better off leaving it how it is.. you can access it while its hidden anyhow
[08:18] <ompaul> Sfyler, this is the Ubuntu support channel, you must have us confused with someone else
[08:18] <iGama> fyrestrtr, did u do anything else?
[08:18] <fyrestrtr> iGama: nope.
[08:18] <Jack_Sparrow> grogs I agree with him
[08:18] <iGama> fyrestrtr,  http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide#HP_zt3000_.2F_Compaq_nx7000
[08:19] <Grogs> Well, i want to put a theme into there, and a program... how?
[08:19] <iGama> has it this?
[08:19] <Sfyler> escuse ompaul it's because this school have a linux laboratory
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs read up on how to use wine
[08:19] <iGama> i made all the steps
[08:19] <lophyte> Grogs: the directory is ~/.wine
[08:19] <iGama> and aded the lines
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> It isnt how you think
[08:19] <Grogs> ok, but how i get to the directory?
[08:19] <ompaul> Sfyler, this is a support channel, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic for conversation
[08:19] <lophyte> cd ~/.wine
[08:19] <Grogs> ok, ty
[08:19] <iGama> but the screen isnt goog enought :S there are lines in the screen
[08:19] <Jack_Sparrow> USe winecfg to add any programs you need
[08:19] <ompaul> Sfyler, thanks ;-)
[08:20] <lophyte> yeah, use winecfg.. or just run wine on the install programs
[08:20] <Sfyler> okay no problem
[08:20] <XVampireX> I think people should learn more about the ~/ sign
[08:20] <Jack_Sparrow> TIlde
[08:20] <Grogs> I didn't even know that cd meant change directory unil a few months back
[08:20] <lophyte> Grogs: FYI, the tilde is a symbol for your home directory
[08:20] <lophyte> so ~/.wine means /home/<username>/.wine
[08:21] <visik7> anyone know how to get mii tool on r1000 ethernet card ?
[08:21] <XVampireX> That's shortcut to the home directory, so that you don't have to type /home/user all the time when you need to switch directories
[08:21] <Grogs> yeah, i kinda guessed that :P
[08:21] <lophyte> k ;)
[08:21] <ompaul> lophyte, is that a regular question I have seen a couple of times
[08:21] <XVampireX> If you type ~/ in the console and press tab, it does just that, but you don't have to press tab
[08:21] <ompaul> lophyte, as in explaining ~
[08:21] <XVampireX> Me neither
[08:21] <lophyte> ompaul: I haven't seen anyone ask it before, actually
[08:22] <XVampireX> and typing just cd in console will also lead you to your home directory
[08:22] <ompaul> lophyte, k
[08:23] <Grogs> ...how do I run applications within WINE? should i just go to the WINE website for answers to these b asic questions?
[08:23] <XVampireX> Just giving some tips for people who think the terminal/console is too hard
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> Grogs: yes, and read the FAQ there.
[08:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs go to wine, there will be lots of into there
[08:23] <penguin42> Grogs: Install the wine package, then type at the command line       wine  blah.exe
[08:23] <Toma-> !wine
[08:23] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[08:23] <Grogs> hmmm ok
[08:24] <harisund> Hello! My /etc/X11/config has the resolution set to 1600x1200 (and everything the same as it was in Breezy) but in Dapper it doesn't even allow me to change from 640x480. Any ideas?
[08:24] <ompaul> !resolution
[08:24] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:24] <Toma-> Grogs: have a good read of that webpage. tells you everything you need to know
[08:24] <ompaul> harisund, ubotu 4 u
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> harisund: the file needs to be /etc/X11/xorg.conf, not config
[08:24] <penguin42> harisund: If it doesn't allow you to change it then it probably means either it doesn't know the card can do more (wrong driver) or doesn't know the monitor can do more
[08:24] <kizibi> hi everybody
[08:25] <crazy_penguin> h3sp4wn: ping
[08:25] <Frogzoo> !fixres > harisund
[08:25] <Grogs> ok, will do Toma, thanks :)
[08:25] <kizibi> guys, easy question that I've been googling and combing the forums for at least half an hour now:
[08:25] <kizibi> how to shutdown x
[08:25] <Toma-> Grogs: np :)
[08:25] <kizibi> I know ctrl+alt+backspace restarts, but what's the combination for shutdown?
[08:26] <ompaul> kizibi, do you want it on next time you boot or what way do you want it?
[08:26] <lophyte> kizibi: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop should do it
[08:26] <harisund> fyrestrtr yes, that is the file I was talking about. penguin42 the settings are the exact same as they were in breezy. I just did a fresh Dapper install and copied the xorg.conf file over from my old Breezy installation.
[08:26] <XVampireX> Oh, by the way, another good tip is that if you have a program in your PATH, tab-completion works on these too, regardless if you're in the directory of the program or not. So for example you want to watch a movie with MPlayer you can start typing mpl and hit tab and it will also auto complete to mplayer (Even with a space, if you want to add the file to play or options or whatever)
[08:26] <kizibi> I tried init 3 etc
[08:26] <kizibi> didin't work
[08:26] <fyrestrtr> kizibi: ctrl+alt+f1 + login + sudo killall X :P
[08:26] <harisund> Frogzoo, thanks, I didn't know that webpage (what ubotu said) existed. I will try it out
[08:26] <kizibi> lophyte, ompaul, thanks!
[08:26] <kizibi> fyrestrtr, thanks!
[08:26] <ompaul> kizibi, init 1 is single user init 2 is everything - if you install it you must want to run it ;-0
[08:26] <roostishaw> has anyone in here ever used or setup keylaunch?
[08:26] <penguin42> harisund: Probably not worth copying the config file - probably would have been better to let dapper do tis detect
[08:27] <kizibi> guys, I just want to be able to drop out of x every now and then for x troubleshooting etc
[08:27] <lophyte> roostishaw: keylaunch?
[08:27] <roostishaw> lophyte, yes.
[08:27] <kizibi> appreciate your help everybody
[08:27] <iGama> fyrestrtr, is it possible if u send me your xorg.conf from your nx7000 ? to mail
[08:27] <lophyte> roostishaw: what do you mean?
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> kizibi: just ctrl+alt+f1 > f6
[08:27] <harisund> penguin42, yes initially Dapper did the detection and it showed me a unchangeable 640x6480 resolution. Then I copied the xorg.conf from my older installation
[08:27] <fyrestrtr> kizibi: X runs on the 7th console by default, so to get back to it, ctrl+alt+f7
[08:27] <kizibi> fyrestrtr, it detects x is running (this for NVIDIA installer)
[08:27] <roostishaw> lophyte, i mean do you know how to use it? as in set it up?
[08:28] <kizibi> fyrestrtr, those are virtual consoles
[08:28] <lophyte> roostishaw: what do you mean by 'keylaunch' though? I'm not sure what you're talking about
[08:28] <fyrestrtr> kizibi: try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, or killall gdm
[08:28] <XVampireX> One last tip for people who want to ease their life greatly in the terminal - You can set aliases to commands by putting in the terminal: alias somealias="command or set of commands" (Including quotes)
[08:28] <harisund> penguin42,by the way, all the other Linux distros I have tried on my laptop, they have all defaulted to 1600x1200 (default for my card) including warty, breezy et all... only dapper has taken a 640x480 stand
[08:28] <kizibi> fyrestrtr, i'll do it right away! Thank you!
[08:28] <roostishaw> lophyte, i mean the package called keylaunch
[08:28] <lophyte> roostishaw: ah.. I've never used it before
[08:29] <iGama> fyrestrtr, is it possible if u send me your xorg.conf from your nx7000 ? to mail if u could, when u can :)
[08:29] <Toma-> Anyone delt with converting 3gp video before?
[08:29] <fyrestrtr> iGama: faster for you to google 'nx7000 xorg setup'
[08:29] <linux_user400354> how do i prevent text from being deleted out of the .bash_history file?
[08:29] <iGama> i tried it all :s.. but ok i will try again...
[08:30] <ViperSnake> hi guys... im new to ubuntu and for that fact new to linux.... is there a way i can install ubuntu and windows in the same HD??? my laptop alredy came with the HD partiotioned
[08:30] <joebu23> has anyone ever heard of a telestrator for linux?
[08:31] <kimo> !dual
[08:31] <dribble> is there any easy way to kill an uninterruptible process?  rhythmbox has been dyin' on me and i can't seem to kill it w/o rebooting...
[08:31] <ubotu> I know nothing about dual
[08:31] <Jack_Sparrow> viper yes dual boot is easy
[08:31] <fyrestrtr> ViperSnake: you can dual boot, and to do how is mentioned in the wiki
[08:31] <lophyte> dribble: go into a terminal and type killall rhythmbox
[08:31] <mc__> dribble, killall NameOfTheProcess -9
[08:31] <kimo> dribble: xkill ?
[08:31] <lophyte> dribble: OR.. alt+f2 and type 'xkill' then click on the rhythmbox window
[08:31] <dribble> lophyte, mc__ : thx
[08:31] <ViperSnake> ohh ok where is the wiki?
[08:31] <philipsmith> Hi! I'm running SUSE 10.0 and want to dry out DAPPER. I downloaded the ISO (on an XP machine) for my AMD 64 bit machine, and burned it to a CD in ISO format. Then, I put it in the CD reader and instructed the system to boot from the CD. As it started, the last message was: STARTING DR CALDERA DR-DOS... CMM386 3.27 COPYRIGHT (2) 1999, 1998. CALDERA, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED........ Then nothing else happened and DAPPER will n
[08:31] <philipsmith> ot start. What am I doing wrong?
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> ViperSnake: in your bookmarks folder in Firefox :)
[08:32] <BHSPitMonkey_> is the Alternate install CD for dapper SUPPOSED to install a CLI-only system by default?
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> philipsmith: its not booting from the CD.
[08:32] <dribble> lophyte, mc__ : the uniterruptible process is still active :(
[08:32] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: just type 'server' at the prompt to install a minimal version.
[08:32] <Jack_Sparrow> ViperSnake: the cd has qtparted once you click install on the Ubuntu Live desktop
[08:33] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: I don't want that.
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: I mean the boot: prompt.
[08:33] <philipsmith> fyrestrtr: Thanks, what do you mean by this and how do I make it boot from the CD?
[08:33] <lophyte> dribble: did you try xkill?
[08:33] <BHSPitMonkey_> I thought the alternate CD would install the same system as the live cd does...
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> philipsmith: did you check the md5 on the cd
[08:33] <philipsmith> Hi Jack: What is md5?
[08:33] <dribble> lophyte, there's no window to xkill - it's simply a resident process, whose status is 'Uninterruptible'
[08:33] <BHSPitMonkey_> but on my friend's comp, it installed an X-less install...
[08:33] <fyrestrtr> philipsmith: well those messages are from SuSE, not the dapper boot CD. For whatever reason, your system is not booting from the CD, or you didn't burn the iso image properly.
[08:33] <penguin42> Does everyone else find the boot time for the dapper live CD painful?
[08:33] <Jack_Sparrow> checksum to insure you have a good image
[08:33] <lophyte> dribble: ah.. and you tried killall in a terminal?
[08:34] <dribble> lophyte, yeah, as well as kill via system monitor, pkill from console, etc
[08:34] <BHSPitMonkey_> penguin42: everyone else with your system specs, you mean? :P
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> philipsmith: Are you burning the cd in Windows, maybe with Nero?
[08:34] <Wikipedia-Gast> why
[08:34] <lophyte> dribble: kill -9 <PID> maybe?
[08:34] <penguin42> BHSPitMonkey_: I've tried it on a few systems - all high spec
[08:34] <philipsmith> Jack: Yes burning in Windows with Nero.
[08:34] <kimo> penguin42: it's painful on 256 RAM or less
[08:34] <Curumo> are u insane?
[08:34] <roostishaw> how can i ping a computer at smb://laptop? its a windows comp.
[08:34] <EddieDaMan> hello
[08:34] <wweasel> Hey all.  I am recovering GRUB after reinstalling windows, and am getting an error message.   "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20".  I searched on google, and can't find anyone with same problem. Help please?
[08:34] <Jack_Sparrow> philipsmith: google nero md5 checksum they have a stand alone program free
[08:34] <penguin42> kimo: I'm talking machines with at least 1GB RAM, 3.6GHz cpu
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: any thoughts on that
[08:35] <lophyte> roostishaw: you have to know its IP address to ping it
[08:35] <kimo> penguin42: then no, it shouldnt be :)
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <kimo> lophyte: nmblookup
[08:35] <BHSPitMonkey_> penguin42: the optical drive itself matters a great deal
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <roostishaw> lophyte, so there is no way to ping it on my network?
[08:35] <penguin42> wweasel: Any messages before that?
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: missed your question.
[08:35] <roostishaw> lophyte, can i use its private ip?
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <hector__> hey
[08:35] <lophyte> roostishaw: if you're on a private LAN, yes
[08:35] <Curumo> why
[08:35] <Jack_Sparrow> philipsmith:  there is a live cd super grub .. repair or something like that
[08:36] <matttail> Hi, I'm trying to umount my ntfs partition, but it just says the device is busy.  I don't have it open anywhwere, and it's already mounted ro.  How can I unmount this partition?
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <penguin42> BHSPitMonkey_: Nod, but a couple of different vendors - the time from boot till actually coming up at a desktop is painful
[08:36] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: the alternate CD installs an X-less system by default, from my experience.
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <roostishaw> lophyte, ok, thank you
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: google super grub live
[08:36] <wweasel> penguin42: yeah, all is good until that error message
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: don't know about that to be honest. Haven't had to do any CD installs in a while.
[08:36] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: that's not the server option, either
[08:36] <kazukisan> hey Jack_Sparrow: Remember my question earlyer ? about the dvd burner ? well all of a sudden i have it reconizing it but it wont let me mount it
[08:36] <kristian> Can someone help me install drivers for my ati graphic card? it needs extra help, because it's something wrong. The ati drivern isn't enabled...:S
[08:36] <philipsmith> Hi Jack: I'll try the checksum. Thanks! P
[08:36] <BrownMan> hey, anyone know how to configure xgl?
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <lophyte> !xgl
[08:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:36] <Curumo> why
[08:36] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: the only reason it would do that is if it couldn't figure out your network card, afaik.
[08:36] <lophyte> BrownMan: there you go ^
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> kazukisan: did you try the disk mounter script
[08:37] <Curumo> why
[08:37] <joebu23> hello all, I need to find a telestrator for a video project I am doing.  I need to draw over live video.
[08:37] <BHSPitMonkey_> it's amazing how powerless we are to stop spammers in here
[08:37] <fa_> hello
[08:37] <BrownMan> Thanks
[08:37] <Curumo> why
[08:37] <kazukisan> Jack_Sparrow: Whats that ?
[08:37] <BrownMan> I have xgl installed, I just have all these weird purple auras around
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: sorry, I meant video card, not network card obivously.
[08:37] <BrownMan> did anyone else get that
[08:37] <matttail> Curumo: you need to address someone, don't just repete your question.  Everyone will just ignore you
[08:37] <fa_> i want mount an hdd permanently
[08:37] <Curumo> ok
[08:37] <wweasel> I could recover grub the manual way, but apparently I need to decide whether I want to write it to MBR or to my Linux root partition, and I don't know which one!
[08:37] <lophyte> BrownMan: I didn't.. but I had a few problems with Xgl myself.. I just didn't bother with it
[08:37] <Curumo> can I ask a question?
[08:37] <Jack_Sparrow> kazukisan: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[08:37] <fyrestrtr> wweasel: MBR
[08:37] <penguin42> wweasel: I'd normally go for MBR, but I don't normally dual
[08:37] <matttail> Curumo: of course
[08:38] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: well, the live system boots. it's just too slow to use for the installer
[08:38] <wweasel> Curmo: You just did. Now ask a second one.
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> !ask
[08:38] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:38] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: but there isn't internet access on there, perhaps that matters?
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Fa_ http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/
[08:38] <BrownMan> Lophyte, everything else woks perfectly, I just have no idea why things are purple in color
[08:38] <Curumo> ok. what shall I ask?
[08:38] <lophyte> BrownMan: maybe ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[08:38] <BrownMan> ok
[08:38] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: hrmm, don't think it should, but I haven't done an install in a while (and all my machines were net enabled at the time).
[08:38] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: You can use the Alternate install to do it in text mode
[08:38] <Curumo> what question shall I ask?
[08:38] <Jack_Sparrow> BHSPitMonkey_: What? To slow to install?
[08:39] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: that's what I did. the result didn't have gnome or anything installed
[08:39] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: yeah...
[08:39] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: It should install the same thing. Perhaps you chose server install?
[08:39] <BHSPitMonkey_> his cd drive is kind of old, and everything on the live cd took infinitely long to do
[08:39] <Jack_Sparrow> BHSPitMonkey_: How long does it take you to install XP?
[08:39] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: no, I didn't.
[08:39] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: we installed XP from an i386 folder on the hard drive.
[08:39] <Curumo> what question shall I ask?
[08:40] <ViperSnake>  the wiki page with the dualboot guide is no more! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:40] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: Ok, well, the text install should give you the EXACT same thing as a gui install.
[08:40] <ViperSnake> :'(
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: sounds like a CD drive that needs to be retired.
[08:40] <Curumo> what question shall I ask?
[08:40] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: we built that computer not too long ago, and he was on a budget... he "borrowed" the drive from his mom's computer, which had 2 :P
[08:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I didnt think anyone used a 8086 cpu anymore?
[08:40] <HLM> smacks Curumo with a sack of fish
[08:40] <BHSPitMonkey_> I guess I can tell him to buy one now
[08:40] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: oh geez.
[08:40] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: Any chance of you getting a newer CD drive? lol, I picked one off someone's lawn yesterday, 40x
[08:40] <Curumo> what question shall I ask?
[08:40] <BHSPitMonkey_> but he needs a video card more badly :P
[08:41] <BHSPitMonkey_> it's a DVD-ROM
[08:41] <BHSPitMonkey_> I just think it's slow
[08:41] <wweasel> Could some op kick BHSPitMoneky_?
[08:41] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel: I have a dozen 40x here free for the taking
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: could just be dirty.
[08:41] <penguin42> BHSPitMonkey_: Install from a USB stick?
[08:41] <wweasel> woops!
[08:41] <wweasel> i mean kick the spammer
[08:41] <wweasel> Curumo
[08:41] <roostishaw> what can i use to modify a .ini file?
[08:41] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: ouch
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> roostishaw: any text editor.
[08:41] <wweasel> sry BHSPitMonkey: too little sleep
[08:41] <Curumo> why
[08:41] <Toma-> Curumo: what question do you want to ask?
[08:41] <wweasel> just shutup and leave Curumo
[08:41] <BHSPitMonkey_> Toma-: just ignore him.
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> Toma-: that in itself is the question.
[08:42] <Curumo> why do birds sing?
[08:42] <amortvigil> lol is it bad to dist update after a distupdate without rebooting between?
[08:42] <penguin42> Curumo: Well it is something to do
[08:42] <wweasel> yay!
[08:42] <Toma-> 2 e z
[08:42] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: not at all, you only need to reboot if you are installing a new kernel.
[08:42] <kazukisan> I have xcdroast installed when trying to load my dvd burner it says i need to install prodvd support ?
[08:42] <ompaul> Toma-, yes it is rather
[08:42] <Toma-> :)
[08:42] <amortvigil> fryestrtr: okkie
[08:43] <roostishaw> fyrestrtr, but it comes up blank
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: you might need to restart X if you have updated it.
[08:43] <roostishaw> fyrestrtr, in gedit
[08:43] <ompaul> !test
[08:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about test
[08:43] <ompaul> good on you :-)
[08:43] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: well anyway, we did the Text installation, and it seemed fine... but there was no GUI. Perhaps there is some dependence on a network connection?
[08:43] <kristian> Can someone help me install drivers for my ati graphic card? it needs extra help, because it's something wrong. The ati drivern isn't enabled...:S
[08:43] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: Nope, I have never been connected to a network when installing.
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> roostishaw: you might not have permissions to read it, try opening it with sudo.
[08:43] <BHSPitMonkey_> k
[08:43] <peter84> Hi i just fund out that ive got two users on my laptop, but ive never added other users than myself. Here what "who" give peter@peter-laptop:~$ who
[08:43] <peter84> peter    :0           2006-07-01 20:38
[08:43] <peter84> peter    pts/0        2006-07-01 20:40 (:0.0)
[08:43] <ompaul> kristian, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:43] <fyrestrtr> kristian: have you followed the wiki?
[08:43] <BHSPitMonkey_> kristian: switch to nvidia :P
[08:43] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: Did you check your cd for integrity?
[08:44] <peter84> sorry
[08:44] <amortvigil> fryestrtr: i just installed ubuntu breezy server and updated it distupgraded it and then dist upgrade too dapper it gave me a grubb error
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> peter84: that's just you, logged in twice.
[08:44] <Toma-> peter84: yeh, you get that.
[08:44] <peter84> but how??
[08:44] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: I think we did. (this whole incident was a week or two ago)
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> peter84: :0.0 <-- this is X
[08:44] <peter84> So no problem?
[08:44] <wweasel> Can anyone here decipher "grub-reinstall failed with exit code 20" for me?
[08:44] <ompaul> peter84, no
[08:44] <BHSPitMonkey_> I tend to ask for support when I'm not at the computer in question :P
[08:44] <peter84> Ist an ubuntu "feature"?
[08:44] <peter84> :-)
[08:44] <fyrestrtr> peter84: nope.
[08:44] <penguin42> peter84: Often the terminals show login entries
[08:45] <ardchoille> peter84: do you have a term open?
[08:45] <fyrestrtr> !it
[08:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[08:45] <Toma-> !it
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !spanish
[08:45] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:45] <peter84> ahhh
[08:45] <peter84> yes
[08:45] <penguin42> peter84: gnome-terminal tends to, konsole tends not to
[08:45] <peter84> hhhmmmm okay
[08:45] <peter84> Thanks alot!
[08:45] <kristian> ompaul, the "sudo dpkg......." reset everything :P tastatur, mouse, everything! I tried that for a week ago, and i couldn't start ubuntu after that. I don't know what happend.
[08:45] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: I don't think Spanish is the official language of Denmark
[08:45] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: If the install worked alright and led you to a command line interface, with no GUI (gnome, kde, wtvr), I tend to think it was a server install.
[08:45] <ompaul> kristian, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg accept ati as your card and leave the rest as default
[08:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Argh... THat was for a user who just posted in Spanish..
[08:46] <wweasel> No, Danish is the official language of Denmark
[08:46] <BHSPitMonkey_> wweasel: from the boot menu, we followed the "Install in text mode" or whatever
[08:46] <BHSPitMonkey_> NOT OEM, NOT server
[08:46] <ompaul> kristian, or if you have been having all sorts of problems for a week get back onto 32bit and and then learn more
[08:46] <BHSPitMonkey_> lol yeah, I bet Dell is popping in those Ubuntu Alternate OEM cds now
[08:46] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: what kind of video card do you have?
[08:46] <ompaul> kristian, in particular if it is a desktop
[08:47] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey_: this is a Breezy install CD?
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: you mean my friend's computer, that I'm asking about?
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey_> Flannel: dapper.
[08:47] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: the one that is having the issues
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: it's onboard
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey_> like I said, fyrestrtr, the live cd works
[08:47] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: That is very strange indeed. I don't know what to do. I am not an expert, so maybe someone else knows better.  You could try installing Breezy or wtvr and then dist-upgrade?
[08:47] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey_: you downloaded the 'desktop' ISO or the Alternate?
[08:47] <kristian> ompaul, but when i have written sudo dpkg-reconfigre xserver-xorg, can I press enter through the process or do I have to choose everything? I choose fglrx, of course..
[08:47] <BHSPitMonkey_> but the installer runs too slowly to bear
[08:48] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: how much RAM do you have?
[08:48] <BHSPitMonkey_> Flannel: desktop was too slow to use, alternate installed a text-only installation.
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> BHSPitMonkey_: what are the rest of the specs on that machine?
[08:48] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: he had 256 at this time, though now that has doubled
[08:48] <ompaul> kristian, no choose ati and get it working natively then go explore the world from there, if it is not working which is what I understand the position to be
[08:48] <wweasel> Recap: He tried the Install CD, too slow to work.  He used the Alternate text only, and it gave him no GUI.  wtf?
[08:48] <BHSPitMonkey_> and I haven't had a chance to try it again with the 512
[08:48] <kristian> ompaul, how can I get back to 32bit?
[08:48] <iGama> im getting lots of this erros " drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card253
[08:48] <iGama> drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)" can sometell whats wrong? using an nx7000 + ati 9200 ( trying for fglrx )
[08:48] <[0x90] > caralho
[08:48] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey_: Alternate is only a text-mode installation, but it installs either a server, or a full desktop, depending on the command you give it.
[08:48] <ompaul> kristian, www.ubuntu.com/download
[08:48] <[0x90] > iGama, segue o meu tut
[08:48] <BHSPitMonkey_> Flannel: yeah, I know.
[08:48] <Jack_Sparrow> wweasel:  too slow to install means he has other hardware issues
[08:48] <[0x90] > haha
[08:48] <kristian> ompaul, reinstall?
[08:48] <[0x90] > :P
[08:48] <ompaul> kristian, get the 32bit install cd
[08:49] <iGama> [0x90] , isso n me ajuda :S
[08:49] <kristian> I have it... live cd or something like that
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> wweasel: maybe the alternate install doesn't install the desktop packages. Either way, what is the big mystery. sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop and be done with it.
[08:49] <kristian> installed from that
[08:49] <iGama>  do meu portatil :S
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: it means every little action in the livecd took 10 minutes.
[08:49] <Flannel> fyrestrtr: it does install the desktop.
[08:49] <ompaul> speak english please - this is an english language channel thanks
[08:49] <[0x90] > iGama,  tou no gozo
[08:49] <[0x90] > eu eh que tou meio malucop
[08:49] <erUSUL> !pt > iGama
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> Flannel: oh.
[08:49] <wweasel> Jack_Sparrow: perhaps he has hardware issues, but the text install shold install the desktop
[08:49] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: no network.
[08:49] <iGama> erUSUL,  im talking english ok
[08:49] <F12> Hi, I am just curious... what will be the major changes between 6.06 and 6.10?
[08:49] <penguin42> BHSPitMonkey_: Did you have a chance to look in logs  - were there actually IDE errors from the cd drive ?
[08:49] <Flannel> BHSPitMonkey_: question then becomes, do you have the desktop installed, and are just not using it?  You'll have to see if ubuntu-desktop is installed or not, via apt.
[08:49] <[0x90] > erUSUL, portugal wins
[08:49] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: what do you get with /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:50] <Jack_Sparrow> BHSPitMonkey_:  So... let it run..  You will spend more time here complaining about it than you would to let it run all night
[08:50] <ompaul> iGama, you were not there for a moment, that is all
[08:50] <ompaul> !offtopic
[08:50] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[08:50] <[0x90] > PORTUGAL WON, WE TALK PORTUGUESE!! ENGLAND LOST SO NO ENGLISH TALK ANYMORE!!!
[08:50] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: the installer program was essentially frozen.
[08:50] <iGama> [0x90] ,  shut up
[08:50] <wweasel> 0x90: Not the place.
[08:50] <kristian> iweuronsndfysdf, that's portuguese :P
[08:50] <[0x90] > iGama,  :D
[08:50] <SonicChao> [0x90] , stop. Now.
[08:50] <ompaul> [0x90] , have you stopped?
[08:51] <[0x90] > somegeek,  ompaul  WTF?
[08:51] <Toma-> [0x90] : won what..
[08:51] <datr1x> beso mi culu
[08:51] <Jack_Sparrow> BHSPitMonkey_:  there is a place where it takes a long time to uncompress, just looks frozen, 10 minutes is NOT long, did you see any disk activity?
[08:51] <[0x90] > the world cup game
[08:51] <wweasel> [0x90] : if you want to discuss soccer, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <ompaul> [0x90] , don't wtf me thanks -- you can if you wish ask me why
[08:51] <F12> [0x90]  - is england out of the running now?
[08:51] <SonicChao> ompaul, no.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> BHSPitMonkey_: your DVD-ROM is just dead.
[08:51] <Flannel> F12: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:51] <[0x90] > hihi
[08:51] <wweasel> F12: Not here.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> oye, no football in here.
[08:51] <wweasel> Just kick them?
[08:52] <|lostbyte|> !repos
[08:52] <BHSPitMonkey_> Jack_Sparrow: when I said 10 minutes, it wasn't a scientific reading. just a figure of speech.
[08:52] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:52] <bsdirl> kick me, I'm innocent :[
[08:52] <ompaul> SOCCER WILL GET YOU KICKED thanks
[08:52] <BHSPitMonkey_> lol
[08:52] <SonicChao> [0x90] , it's idiot's like you that chase away n00bs, when they see vandals, they run
[08:52] <F12> ompaul - actually it's football :P
[08:52] <iGama> only 1 guy in this channel has an nx7000 ???
[08:52] <bsdirl> F12 here here *waits to get kicked for nothing*
[08:52] <SonicChao> F12, KNOCK IT OFF.
[08:52] <F12> Well it is!
[08:52] <BHSPitMonkey_> soccer -> kicking, that's obvious, ompaul
[08:52] <ompaul> F12, that was a warning - next time your red carded
[08:52] <BHSPitMonkey_> it's a fundamental relationship, really
[08:52] <SonicChao> ompaul, you can ban him right?
[08:52] <fyrestrtr> lol
[08:52] <bsdirl> hehe red card
[08:53] <SonicChao> ompaul, is it possible to IP ban?
[08:53] <F12> ompaul - I was just pointing out that slight error
[08:53] <iGama> shut the hell up about soccer, futeboll, what ever!
[08:53] <ardchoille> [0x90]  F12: please respect the users of this channel. They're here either to help or get help.
[08:53] <F12> I was talking out of context :P
[08:53] <[0x90] > ardchoille,  wtf?? i am respecting
[08:53] <iGama> only 1 guy in this channel has an nx7000 ??? :(
[08:53] <[0x90] > i stopped talking already
[08:53] <SonicChao> F12, we are helping people
[08:53] <iGama> [0x90] , para man ja chega
[08:53] <[0x90] > you guys are still talking
[08:53] <[0x90] > eu ja parei
[08:53] <SonicChao> [0x90] , have you? Why is there text on the screen?
[08:53] <F12> SonicChao, is that a joke?
[08:53] <fyrestrtr> iGama: I have three laptops that run a flavor of Linux -- certainly not the norm :)
[08:54] <kristian> ompaul, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is done. Me feel proud :P
[08:54] <penguin42> fyrestrtr: You have 3 laps?
[08:54] <ompaul> kristian, and it works?
[08:54] <Toma-> Anyone know a place to get a pre-compiled ffmpeg build with all the goodies enabled? stock ubuntu one lacks so very many plugins..
[08:54] <ompaul> !ffmpeg
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about ffmpeg
[08:54] <wweasel> BHSPitMonkey_: I agree, so much text, so hard to read it all.
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !restricted
[08:54] <kristian> I have not restarted yet...
[08:54] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:54] <ompaul> !info ffmpeg
[08:54] <ubotu> ffmpeg: multimedia player, server and encoder. In repository universe, is optional. Version 3:0.cvs20050918-5ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 3833 kB, installed size 9808 kB
[08:54] <kristian> want to save this moment
[08:54] <SanketMedhi> Toma-: what plugins do u want
[08:54] <BHSPitMonkey_> fyrestrtr: there are people out there who dream of having just one :P
[08:54] <SonicChao> Toma-, Easy Ubuntu works
[08:54] <F12> !theora
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> penguin42: yes.
[08:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about theora
[08:54] <ompaul> !universe > Toma-
[08:54] <Toma-> SaneEnglishMonk: AMR, ASF, and so on
[08:54] <SonicChao> Toma-, easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[08:54] <wweasel> I second the recommendation of Easy Ubuntu
[08:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Three lappys here too
[08:55] <^richiefrich> !info ptheora
[08:55] <ubotu> Package ptheora does not exist in dapper
[08:55] <^richiefrich> !info theora
[08:55] <ubotu> Package theora does not exist in dapper
[08:55] <bsdirl> hm, easy ubuntu's that good huh?
[08:55] <dli> Toma-, you can build it from mplayerhq.hu source, I think they have scripts for debian (should work for ubuntu)
[08:55] <ompaul> Toma-, please read the message from ubotu
[08:55] <kristian> ompaul, now i'll restart. see ya
[08:55] <F12> I swear I was told Ogg Theora was in
[08:55] <Toma-> I know what universe is thanks.
[08:55] <ompaul> dli, there is one
[08:55] <SonicChao> ompaul, Easy Ubuntu is a good fix.
[08:55] <ompaul> Toma-, well it is in it
[08:55] <SonicChao> ompaul, especially for n00bs
[08:55] <^richiefrich> F12 it is on there distros
[08:55] <Toma-> easyubuntu doesnt have a version of ffmpeg compiled with amr or asf
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> Dell Inspiron 510m, IBM T43 (currently using), NX6000 -- currently awaiting a re-install, 1 R50, 1 R50e (not regularly used).
[08:55] <SonicChao> Oh?
[08:55] <Toma-> ompaul: i know. i just downloaded it.
[08:55] <cius> I have small problem with X on my laptop.  The screen seems to be shifted just a few pixels to the left.
[08:55] <stefg> !info libtheora
[08:56] <ubotu> Package libtheora does not exist in dapper
[08:56] <F12> ^richiefrich - i'll just take your word for it - ubotu is a bit crap
[08:56] <stefg> !info libtheora0
[08:56] <ubotu> libtheora0: The Theora Video Compression Codec. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.0.0.alpha5-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 58 kB, installed size 172 kB
[08:56] <dli> cius, lcd or crt?
[08:56] <cius> lcd
[08:56] <ompaul> gstreamer0.8-theora - Theora plugin for GStreamer
[08:56] <cius> dli, its a laptop
[08:56] <Jack_Sparrow> cius:  I had to manually adjust my screen from XP to Ub
[08:56] <kbrooks> Toma-: that because its not a god idea to even compile
[08:56] <^richiefrich> omg no no lpease not gstreamer
[08:56] <Toma-> Hmmm guess ill just build-dep ffmpeg and compile from svn :*(
[08:56] <^richiefrich> stefg u found it :)
[08:57] <Toma-> kbrooks: oh?
[08:57] <Jack_Sparrow> cius:  Ub / X were just a little left of center... Like my political preference
[08:57] <ompaul> Toma-, apt-cache search SomeKeyword is useful as a command line
[08:57] <stefg> A service brought to you sponsored by ther german soccer team :-)
[08:57] <dli> cius, run gnome-display-properties to double check the resolution is correct, but still hard to imagine a shift :(
[08:57] <Toma-> ompaul: yes it is
[08:57] <ompaul> stefg, please - no soccer
[08:57] <Toma-> ompaul: so is apt-cache search --name-only
[08:57] <kbrooks> Toma-: yes. nalioth once aid to uss that easyubuntu shouldnt include a custom compiled openoffice.org
[08:57] <F12> Is there any plans for a 'control panel' like facility on a future version of ubuntu!?
[08:58] <cius> dli, its only slight, a few pixels, it does not hinder my using the OS at all really, its just slightly annoying
[08:58] <harisund> penguin42, ompaul, Frogzoo and fyrestrtr, thanks a lot! dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and blindly hitting the enter key for around 15 times actually worked :)
[08:58] <kristian> ompaul, Now, how do i check if it works?>P
[08:58] <penguin42> cius: You could try xvidtune carefully
[08:58] <dli> F12 kde has a control-center
[08:58] <kristian> american tastatur...lol
[08:58] <F12> dli - I can't stand KDE - sorry!
[08:58] <cius> penguin42, never heard of that, I'll give it a look
[08:58] <F12> I would like to see a control panel based on GTK2 tho, for xubuntu  ubuntu use
[08:58] <^richiefrich> F12 man  what u use ?
[08:59] <ompaul> kristian, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:59] <penguin42> cius: It can tune minor timings
[08:59] <F12> ^richiefrich, xubuntu - theres no better edition
[08:59] <dli> cius, still, is the resolution correct? VertRefresh ?
[08:59] <^richiefrich> F12 ahh im an e man
[08:59] <kazukisan> I have xcdroast installed when trying to load my dvd burner it says i need to install prodvd support ?
[08:59] <cius> dli, that is the correct res for the panel, and the vert refresh is 60
[09:00] <^richiefrich> F12 what ver of xfce is that ?
[09:00] <F12> I take it from the silence theres no plans!?
[09:00] <^richiefrich> F12  thats the svn one ?
[09:00] <F12> ^richiefrich, I'm not sure - not booted into it atm... its xubuntu 6.06 that I use tho
[09:00] <kristian> ompaul, yes? :)
[09:00] <F12> I think it's something like v4.5
[09:00] <ompaul> kristian, did you do that?
[09:00] <kristian> yes
[09:00] <dli> cius, might be a hardware problem, I don't understand how can you shift on a LCD :(
[09:01] <penguin42> I've got one machine (with a very new Radeon) that the standard boot fails saying it can't start X; the 'safe graphical mode' works and gets me a nice framebuffer based setup; is this expected or is the hope that the autodetect should fallback byitself?
[09:01] <ardchoille> F12 I believe it's xfce-4.3.90.2
[09:01] <F12> Why do you ask ^richiefrich
[09:01] <cius> dli, yea, I was afraid of that at first, but it works fine under windows... :-(
[09:01] <ompaul> kristian, I could pull teeth easier, what happened - did anything happen?
[09:01] <^richiefrich> xfce4  ver 4.3.90.1 is the latest iirc
[09:01] <F12> Is there plans of a control panel like thing for xfce of something!?
[09:01] <kristian> it came "OK"
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> --ciusdlisame problem here, lucky I have a one button auto center
[09:01] <^richiefrich> F12 i dont run it
[09:01] <Jack_Sparrow> --cius dli same problem here, lucky I have a one button auto center
[09:01] <F12> LOL
[09:02] <kristian>  * Starting GNOME Display Manager...                                     [ ok ] 
[09:02] <F12> Ok, thanx for the version game - but my original enquiry stands...
[09:02] <amortvigil> oops i made a terrible mistake i think updated my system then changes my sources list with dapper names and added multie verse packets updated and dist upgraded it but i havent installed all the breezy multieverse which his dist upgradign now will this be doomed?
[09:02] <^richiefrich> F12 I never rtan xfce4
[09:02] <F12> Is there plans for a 'cton
[09:02] <F12> 'control panel' like thing?
[09:02] <dli> Jack_Sparrow, then, a bios problem, I suppose?
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> No just a minor sync issue
[09:02] <ardchoille> ^richiefrich: yeah, xfce-4.3.90.2 is what is in the Ubuntu repos and I think it's a snapshot
[09:02] <cius> Jack_Sparrow, yea, no OSD controls on mine, its an older laptop
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: no.
[09:02] <dli> Jack_Sparrow, for lcd?
[09:02] <yaeyo> Anyone else notice that alacarte is broken in ubuntu dapper or is it just my setup? It does nothing for me...
[09:02] <Jack_Sparrow> YEa..
[09:02] <amortvigil> pfew
[09:02] <Flannel> F12: there is.  Its the administration menu.
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Daewoo LCD
[09:03] <^richiefrich> ardchoille ahh kowl.. I was just wounderin I use e17
[09:03] <kristian> ompaul, is it ok now?
[09:03] <dli> cius, anything in bios?
[09:03] <Jack_Sparrow> cius: what video in that lappy?
[09:03] <ardchoille> ^richiefrich: e17? oooh, that's beautiful :)
[09:03] <ompaul> kristian, it is your machine - you tell me if X is running?
[09:03] <^richiefrich> ardchoille yes yes man but buggy
[09:04] <kristian> i'm on ubuntu now, yes?
[09:04] <ardchoille> ^richiefrich: :(
[09:04] <kristian> should I write startx? :P
[09:04] <philipsmith> Jack Sparrow! I'm downloading DAPPER again on Windows NT. When it is done, does it give me a check sum?
[09:04] <ompaul> kristian, you have me confused - you left? and came back on ubuntu?
[09:04] <F12> Flannel - but that thing is dreadful !!! are there big plans for changing it or something!?
[09:04] <cius> dli, there is an option for autoscaling of non-native resolutions in teh bios, I have that set so that if I go down in res it fills the screen.
[09:04] <^richiefrich> ardchoille all cvs still
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> phillipsmith, the MD% should be next to where you get the DL
[09:05] <dli> ^richiefrich, I couldn't possibly know what you are thinking you know :(
[09:05] <cius> Jack_Sparrow, its a trident xp4 or something like that iirc
[09:05] <kristian> yes? restarted my pc.. since I said "ompaul, Now, how do i check if it works?>P" I have not restarted my pc
[09:05] <Sir_Fawnpug> Has anybody set up a chroot for 32 bit apps? I'm having trouble getting my X11 programs to establish a connection with the current session
[09:05] <dli> cius, yes, but you are at the default resolution, that has no effect now
[09:05] <ompaul> kristian, restart is
[09:05] <kristian> that was a confusing sentence:P
[09:05] <ompaul> kristian, restart it
[09:05] <fdsd> hey guys, I am wondering how to strip my install of ubuntu down to just the base install, I want it to boot to a shell, and I do not need any other packages installed, any idea?
[09:05] <Jack_Sparrow> cius, I dont remember what chipset those trident use.. I dont think thay are NV
[09:06] <ompaul> kristian, if it fails it fails
[09:06] <dli> fdsd, why not debian?
[09:06] <^richiefrich> dli are u on my channel too.. u are the same on i know ?
[09:06] <philipsmith> Yo, Jack: I'm an idiot. What does "where you get the DL" mean?
[09:06] <fdsd> dli, because I am making a livecd out of it when I am done
[09:06] <fkdsm> hey guys, i am kinda new to Ubunu.. I have installed it on my laptop and it all worked out nice, but I have a wireless pcmcia card (Linksys) how do I get this thing working..?
[09:06] <cius> dli, yea, thats what I figured, but there are no other options for video in there, so I don't think its a bios issue
[09:06] <stefg> fdsd: that's what the 'server'-install is for
[09:06] <dli> ^richiefrich, kidding
[09:06] <cius> Jack_Sparrow, I was under the impression that the trident video was a trident chipset :-)
[09:07] <^richiefrich> dli ahh u are then
[09:07] <phprooki> how would i search all the files in an archive for a string ?
[09:07] <fdsd> stefg, the server install WILL not work for what I need to do
[09:07] <ompaul> !wireless > fkdsm
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> Yep not ATI and Not NV
[09:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> phprooki, a tar archive?
[09:07] <phprooki> sorry i mean how would i search all the files in a folder for a string ?
[09:07] <ompaul> fkdsm, read the message from ubotu
[09:07] <fkdsm> thx ompaul :))
[09:07] <fyrestrtr> phprooki: grep
[09:07] <phprooki> the string is getuserusers($user);
[09:07] <Jack_Sparrow> cius: probably lucky it works at all
[09:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> phprookie, you could grep it
[09:07] <dli> cius, try another video driver, different version, or different driver, like vesa
[09:07] <fkdsm> will do so.. thx 4 the advice :))
[09:07] <phprooki> fyrestrtr:  huh ?
[09:07] <Sir_Fawnpug> Ala `ls | grep $string`
[09:07] <cius> dli, I'll do that
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> grep -R getusers(\$user); .
[09:08] <fyrestrtr> Sir_Fawnpug: err, no :P
[09:08] <fdsd> Does anyone know?
[09:08] <mp3guy> I found a bug in the panel network monitor, when the recieved activity coutner goes over 4gb, it resets
[09:08] <mp3guy> gnome that is
[09:08] <stefg> I'd like a debian-style netinstall, too. I even dimly remember having read about that somewhere. But i can't recall where
[09:08] <Sir_Fawnpug> fyrestrtr: would that not work? I use that all the time to search a directory listing for a string.
[09:08] <ompaul> mp3guy, file it on launchpad.net
[09:09] <kristian> ompaul, now i have restarted :P
[09:09] <fyrestrtr> Sir_Fawnpug: it works, but you can just pass -R to grep, no need to pipe stuff around
[09:09] <fdsd> hey guys, I am wondering how to strip my install of ubuntu down to just the base install, I want it to boot to a shell, and I do not need any other packages installed, any idea?
[09:09] <F12> Why do op's have such unimaginative nicks :S
[09:09] <phprooki> fyrestrtr: its not working?
[09:09] <ompaul> fdsd, get the server install version
[09:09] <phprooki> grep -r "getuserusers"
[09:09] <fdsd> ompaul, wont work for what I am doing
[09:10] <fyrestrtr> phprooki: forgot the .
[09:10] <Jack_Sparrow> F12 and F12 is really Special.. How long did it take to think that up
[09:10] <gnomefreak> F12: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please
[09:10] <fdsd> Does anyone know?
[09:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> phprooki: try capital -R
[09:10] <F12> Jack_Sparrow - F12 is more of a 'backup' nick :P
[09:10] <Sir_Fawnpug> -r and -R are probably different switches.
[09:10] <ompaul> fdsd, it will you can then sudo apt-get install whatever you want
[09:10] <stefg> fdsd: so *what* are you trying to do then?
[09:10] <phprooki> ok
[09:10] <ompaul> fdsd, it is the same o/s
[09:10] <phprooki> Sir_Fawnpug: no difference?
[09:10] <kristian> ompaul, now i have restarted :P reeeeead ;)
[09:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> phprooki: actually, you're right; according to the manpage, they're the same.
[09:11] <phprooki> grep -R getuserusers.
[09:11] <ompaul> kristian, and you have not said if it is good or bad
[09:11] <Sir_Fawnpug> phprooki: you could try that pipe method I used then.
[09:11] <fdsd> ompaul, dude, I am modifing a filesystem.squashfs file, I have chrooted into, I can not switch it out for the server iso does not work.. I need to remove packages from ubuntu, down to the base, stop recommending the server install
[09:11] <phprooki> Sir_Fawnpug: it just seems to hang when i typed grep -R getuserusers
[09:11] <fyrestrtr> phprooki: grep[space] -R[space] getusers[space] .
[09:11] <kristian> i think it's good:P nothing bad happend yet?:P
[09:11] <phprooki> ok fyrestrtr
[09:11] <kristian> started gnome dispaly too..
[09:11] <phprooki> shall try
[09:12] <phprooki> ty fyrestrtr :)
[09:12] <cius> dli, ah-hah!  vesa fixed it!  :-)  thanks!
[09:12] <dli> cius, file a bug to xorg :(
[09:12] <Sir_Fawnpug> Does anybody happen to know much about setting up a sandbox for 32 bit apps on x86_64? I'm looking at a post on the forums, but my X11 apps can't establish a connection to X
[09:12] <kristian> ompaul, it's working:P
[09:13] <cius> dli, will do, its a problem with the trident driver
[09:13] <ompaul> kristian, great
[09:13] <kristian> how can i check 3d is working?:P
[09:13] <dli> Sir_Fawnpug, set XAUTHORITY and DISPLAY ?
[09:13] <Sir_Fawnpug> kristian: glxgears could be useful
[09:13] <dli> kristian, or glxinfo
[09:14] <kristian> not working at all:P l
[09:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> dli, nah, but I'll try it
[09:14] <Sir_Fawnpug> Those are env vars right?
[09:14] <ompaul> kristian, it is not, you need to now go through the whole 3d thing - are you on ati or nvidia
[09:14] <kristian> ati
[09:14] <ompaul> !ati > kristian
[09:14] <dli> Sir_Fawnpug, if you don't know them, you have to read a little bit doc
[09:15] <ompaul> read the message from the bot - it will take you through it all
[09:15] <stefg> fdsd: there's no easy way i know of to strip everything down to the minimum. I'd employ aptitude and kill whatever i know i don't need
[09:15] <fdsd> How do I get a list of all installed packages with apt?
[09:15] <kristian> Do I have to do that again?:P
[09:15] <jim579> what are the system requirements for ubuntu 6.06
[09:15] <kristian> oooh...
[09:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> dli, ahh, well I'll see if I can't fetch the docs then
[09:15] <kristian> then i understand a little;P
[09:15] <Sir_Fawnpug> Thanks for the advice.
[09:15] <ompaul> kristian, well you broke what you had you need to start from a known good situation
[09:15] <kristian> oki :)
[09:15] <fdsd> stefg, I have no gui, I am in the shell, is that a gui app?
[09:15] <dli> Sir_Fawnpug, man xauth
[09:16] <stefg> fdsd: aptitude is ncurses... i anticipated ther's no X
[09:16] <amortvigil> how can i look which kernel i got?
[09:16] <dli> amortvigil, uname -a
[09:16] <fyrestrtr> stefg: not really, you can run aptitude without ncurses.
[09:16] <kristian> but ompaul, i have the 64bit installed:S then it's other files, right?
[09:16] <stefg> not sure... i guess no
[09:17] <xerses2i5o> hello people
[09:17] <stefg> fsds , wait I'll find out
[09:17] <xerses2i5o> Hi need help
[09:17] <Sir_Fawnpug> dli, thanks, reading the manpage now.
[09:18] <fdsd> stefg, how do I get a list of every app installed?
[09:18] <stefg> aptitude needs ncurses
[09:18] <dli> fdsd, dpkg -l
[09:18] <xerses2i5o> Can somebody help me plz
[09:18] <xerses2i5o> ???
[09:18] <amortvigil> does ubuntu server version has a a browser?
[09:18] <fdsd> dli, thanks
[09:19] <jamesstansell> putting a @reboot command in crontab worked well for me, to get a command executed after ubuntu reboots
[09:19] <ardchoille> xerses2i5o: we can't help until we know what your issue is
[09:19] <kristian> ompaul?
[09:19] <xerses2i5o> ok
[09:19] <xerses2i5o> im new to ubuntu try to transfer desktop setting to different user
[09:19] <Jack-Ho> why sudo visudo opens me nano?
[09:19] <ompaul> kristian, read it first - it says various things about the process then you will have some idea of what your trying to achieve information is scattered through out that page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[09:19] <freezombie> hi. is anyone using a composite manager and has a gecko-based browser (epiphany, firefox, mozilla) installed ? if so, could you please visit http://nuxified.org/ , scroll down a bit and tell me whether the "Latest Forum topic" bar at the bottom moves correctly ?
[09:20] <james_xxx> if someone has the time, i would appreciate being walked through setting up ndiswrapper to work with a linksys wireless usb adapter... the instructions are at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List#L and the adapter is WUSB54GS v.2
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Jack-Ho: because that's what is set in your EDITOR variable
[09:20] <xerses2i5o> desktop setting  metacity  xgl compiz etc
[09:20] <Jack-Ho> $editor = vim ?
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> Jack-Ho: export EDITOR=vim
[09:20] <fyrestrtr> and tthen try it :)
[09:20] <ompaul> Jack-Ho, it protects the sudo file from being corrupted - and yes that export thing works
[09:21] <xerses2i5o> :(
[09:21] <amortvigil> how can i visit sites in a trerminal?
[09:21] <stefg> w3m
[09:21] <Jack-Ho> anyway, visudo should open vi\vim in default, that's weird
[09:21] <ardchoille> amortvigil: try a text-based web browser. I use elinks and I like it, but yuo might like a different one
[09:21] <skavenge> lynx is the old standby
[09:22] <Jack-Ho> that`s why it called _vi_sudo and not nanosudo
[09:22] <Jack-Ho> :P
[09:22] <webdesigner> I know this is off topic but does anybody have the install cd for a sony clie PEG-NX70V
[09:22] <fyrestrtr> if you are looking for a driver, try the support site.
[09:22] <xerses2i5o> how can I transfer metacity to a different user
[09:22] <stefg> huh?
[09:22] <xerses2i5o> plz
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> xerses2i5o: transfer metacity?
[09:23] <inono> How do you list the people in a group ?
[09:23] <xerses2i5o> theme icon curser
[09:23] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: they don't have the driver I need
[09:23] <fyrestrtr> webdesigner: for....?
[09:23] <Ries> can webmin in unbutu handle apache2 websites?
[09:24] <xerses2i5o> ive created a new user but how to get the same desktop as the created one
[09:24] <fyrestrtr> xerses2i5o: copy /home/olduser/Desktop to /home/newuser/Desktop
[09:24] <xerses2i5o> permission problem will occur
[09:24] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: I need the driver for hotsync, I lost the cd.
[09:25] <penguin42> fyrestrtr: I'm not sure I'd trust it not have any links with usernames in it
[09:25] <ompaul> Jack-Ho, no it should open your editor, and the setting in ubuntu for the standard editor is nano ergo ...
[09:25] <xerses2i5o> thanx
[09:25] <kristian> ompaul, i have read it now, and as i see "notes" is 'what-to-do' if something was wrong under installation. So I just install with the files for a 32 bit system...
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> webdesigner: you can get hotsync from the ms website -- not sure what driver you want. Hotsync should detect the device.
[09:25] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: On the CD the drivers are in the /Drives/Hotsync/        folders
[09:26] <efox> if your crontab has an event that occurs at say 1am each day, but your computer was not turned on at that time, does the event get skipped or when you log into a session does it do that event because it missed it ?
[09:26] <ompaul> kristian, you can just install a 32bit system and do that stuff
[09:26] <catch23> anyone know how I can get linux to recognize a hot-swapped sata drive?
[09:26] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: hotsync doesn't detect it but it does ask for the driver
[09:26] <kristian> ompaul, thx
[09:26] <fyrestrtr> webdesigner: hrmm, try windows update.
[09:26] <rioch> how can i find out what graphics card i have? I've forgotten :s
[09:27] <penguin42> rioch: lspci
[09:27] <webdesigner> webdesigner: Already tried
[09:27] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: already tried
[09:27] <rioch> lspci told me it is nvidia, and i know it is a geforce4 go, but not sure what version.
[09:27] <penguin42> catch23: Hmm - I know for SCSI there is a scsi tool that lets you rescan the bus - but its not really scsi so I doubt that would work
[09:27] <stefg> efox: man anacron
[09:27] <webdesigner> fyrestrtr: I wish somebody would send me the drivers
[09:27] <hondje> Hi, why is view linked to mcview instead of vim?
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> rioch: grep nvidia /var/log/xorg/Xorg.0.log should tell you
[09:28] <Ries> is there something like webmin for unbutu?
[09:28] <Ries> ubuntu...
[09:28] <yaeyo> I am trying to use twinview with xgl on ubuntu dapper and only the "clone" orientation works. If I try anything else I get an error about no screen found :93 ...
[09:28] <hondje> Is that normal, or did something freaky happen along the line?
[09:28] <kazukisan> i downloaded a movie ISO and some how its 5 mb bigger then a normal dvd so now growisofs wont let me burn ????
[09:28] <fyrestrtr> Ries: you can always install webmin
[09:28] <rioch> fyrestrtr: thanks, ill try it
[09:28] <dli> Ries, first, webmin is insecure :(
[09:28] <ubuntu> eh
[09:28] <ubuntu> i
[09:28] <ubuntu> i'm having problems with wireless on this laptop
[09:28] <Fugitive--> anyone knows why i get this error <<cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-framework" >>  when trying to compile wesnoth 1.1.7 sources?
[09:28] <ubuntu> it doesn't detect any networks
[09:28] <yaeyo> rioch, you could use ssl and is not so insecure
[09:28] <Fugitive--> i checked the log and was done from this gcc -o conftest -g -O2  -I/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Headers  conftest.c  -framework CoreFoundation >&5
[09:28] <catch23> penguin42: yeah, well sata does look like a scsi sub system to the kernel though...  but it's not really sata of course...  it's using the libsata drivers in the scsi package though
[09:29] <Stiv2k> anyhow
[09:29] <Stiv2k> it uses the ipw2200 driver
[09:29] <Ries> dli: any alese you can recommend me? otherwise I use shell....
[09:29] <efox> stefg: thanks
[09:29] <penguin42> catch23: I suspect however that the scsi probe is just a bit too scsi-parallel specific
[09:29] <Stiv2k> if there are any known issues with it or something...
[09:29] <rioch> yaeyo: ssl?
[09:29] <Stiv2k> but it won't pick up any networks
[09:29] <catch23> penguin42 it probably is :-/
[09:29] <fyrestrtr> Ries: there is a free control panel software for debian, but the name escapes me right now.....
[09:30] <dli> Ries, if it's on a LAN only, you can use it :( otherwise, just use shell
[09:30] <ompaul> efox, there is a process that does those jobs a little later anacron
[09:30] <yaeyo> rioch, yes http://www.webmin.com/ssl.html
[09:30] <rioch> fyrestrtr: nope, it has the opensource drivers installed so its just showing as nvidia
[09:30] <Ries> dli: this ob is lane... however I am setting up a dedicated server for myself....
[09:30] <Ries> and I want to host a couple of my clients sites...
[09:30] <ToHellWithGA> how can i mount a .iso image as if it were a CD?
[09:30] <Stiv2k> can anyone help
[09:30] <Stiv2k> ?
[09:30] <rioch> yaeyo: ok, that sounds like good advice, but may i ask why you decided to tell me?
[09:30] <fyrestrtr> rioch: System -> Administration -> Device Manager -- have you checked that?
[09:31] <yaeyo> hmmm sorry It was intended for dli
[09:31] <kristian> ompaul, now I have done down too "sudo aticonfig --overlay-type=Xv". I have done the code, and not more on the guide. Do I now have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure-xserver-xorg?
[09:32] <penguin42> ToHellWithGA: mount -o loop myfile.iso /mnt/somewhere
[09:32] <ToHellWithGA> thanky
[09:32] <Stiv2k> anyone?
[09:33] <fdsd> hey guys, how do I remove all gnome packages and everything that depends on it?
[09:33] <catch23> penguin42: hey what was the name of that scsi bus scanner you were considering of earlier?
[09:33] <catch23> penguin42: I still may be able to get it to work... perhaps
[09:33] <niklas_e> is there any way to set up a username and password for cups so you can login and change status and stuff?
[09:33] <penguin42> catch23: I can't rmemember :-( But a google for rescan scsi  finds a few
[09:33] <Fugitive--> anyone knows how i can get wesnoth 1.1.7 from a repository?cause the sources give errors?
[09:34] <dli> fdsd, apt-get --purge remove libgnome2-0
[09:34] <dli> fdsd, and deborphan after that
[09:34] <fdsd> dli, The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:35] <dli> fdsd, remove them also
[09:35] <kristian> ompaul?
[09:35] <stefg> fdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome2
[09:35] <fdsd> dli,  thats a royal pain, there is like 20 of them
[09:35] <stefg> fdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome2-coomon
[09:35] <stefg> fdsd: apt-get remove --purge libgnome2-common
[09:35] <Stiv2k> dammit
[09:36] <ompaul> kristian, from my reading - no - you should reboot if it fails do what is suggeseted as a manual edit after that, if that fails I have no other suggestions
[09:36] <fdsd> stefg, how do I force it to remove all the dependecies of that app?
[09:36] <fdsd> dli, any idea?
[09:36] <webdesigner2> DOES ANYBODY HAVE THE INSTALL CD FOR THE SONY CLIE PEG-NX70V?
[09:36] <webdesigner2> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <stefg> it will do it by itself...
[09:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:36] <Stiv2k> I'm having trouble getting wifi to work on this laptop,  it doesn't pick up any networks (ipw2200), can anybody help me?
[09:36] <dli> fdsd, apt-get does it auto
[09:36] <fdsd> dli, it gives me those errors
[09:36] <ompaul> !tell webdesigner about shout
[09:37] <kristian> ompaul, then I jump on the editing? right.
[09:37] <fdsd> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:37] <fdsd>   gnome-terminal: Depends: gnome-control-center (>= 1:2.8.0) but it is not going to be installed
[09:37] <webdesigner2> ompaul: this has mothing to do with ubuntu
[09:37] <ompaul> kristian, not now - reboot first - read the page and have some confidence in it
[09:37] <dli> fdsd, from your previous errors
[09:37] <webdesigner2> ompaul: I just need drivers
[09:37] <fdsd> dli, huh?
[09:37] <ompaul> webdesigner, shouting in this channel does and your off topic in that case
[09:37] <Phlosten> webdesigner2, try #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <[0x90] > you need a driver
[09:37] <ltibor65> How can I make from a .py file a pyc bytecode?
[09:38] <kristian> confidence? what does that mean? :P
[09:38] <fyrestrtr> ltibor65: great question to ask in #python
[09:38] <webdesigner2> ompaul: nobody is ever on that channel
[09:38] <webdesigner2> CAN ANYBODY HELP ME
[09:38] <fdsd> dli, what do you mean?
[09:38] <ompaul> webdesigner, I said don't shout
[09:38] <dr_willis> webdesigner2,  yelling like that - normally gets you ignored.
[09:39] <dli> fdsd, apt-get -f install
[09:39] <ompaul> webdesigner2, so I will let you talk but - caps lock on again and byebye
[09:40] <MrWoo> I need help booting the from the live CD on a Mac
[09:40] <fdsd> dli, ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: No such file or directory
[09:40] <webdesigner2> ompaul: and how would you do that?
[09:40] <cute_bettong> !restricted
[09:40] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:40] <ompaul> webdesigner2, by banning you from the channel
[09:40] <dr_willis> MrWoo,  depends on the kind of mac and what firmware it has. theres several 'tricks' to make it boot off the cd..
[09:40] <yaeyo> anyone have any links or info on getting twinview working with xgl on dapper?
[09:41] <fdsd> dli, why cant I uninstall anything?
[09:41] <dr_willis> yaeyo,  heh - just getting twinview working can be a task. :)
[09:41] <dli> fdsd, ldconfig
[09:41] <fdsd> dli, why wont apt-get remove the dependencies?
[09:41] <webdesigner2> ompaul: you can't - your not an operator
[09:41] <Milktea> what does twinview do
[09:41] <[0x90] > xD
[09:41] <yaeyo> dr_willis, I have twinview working but only "clone" works and I would like to span both my monitors
[09:42] <willy-bas> Hi i'm having trouble upgrading to dapper
[09:43] <johan_> I have a problem with apt-get/apt-get/gpg/whatever, look here: http://pastebin.ca/76482
[09:43] <hatred> heh no ops?
[09:43] <MrWoo> dr_willis, I'm on a mac G4, i've tried holding down C and cmd+opt+shift+del
[09:43] <fyrestrtr> webdesigner2: might not want to question if he can or not.
[09:44] <agotfred> Hi, I am having some trouble booting the dapper i386 iso. The boot menu comes up fine, but when it tries to boot the kernel it fails at "hda: timeout waiting for DMA" "hda: drive not ready for command"
[09:44] <hatred> i'm having trouble changing default console font
[09:44] <amortvigil>  how can i install phpmyadmin in ubuntu server ?? i cant find it
[09:45] <penguin42> agotfred: What type of hard drive do you have?
[09:45] <penguin42> IDE or SATA?
[09:45] <yaeyo> hatred, sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin works for me
[09:45] <agotfred> I have both, and I've tried with both disconnected
[09:45] <penguin42> agotfred: I'm wondering if that hda is the CDROM
[09:45] <agotfred> I am pretty sure that hda is the cdrom
[09:46] <penguin42> agotfred: In that case I suggest a bad cdrom burn or a bad drive
[09:46] <Bassetts> does ubuntu have vnc installed from default install
[09:46] <MrWoo> i have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my Mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD
[09:46] <kristian> To someone which have installed the ati driver. Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0] ", where did you place this? I find Section Screen 2 or 3 different places in xorg.conf
[09:46] <agotfred> penguin42:  bit strange though, as I've tried two different burns and 3 different cd drives
[09:46] <hatred> yaeyo: ?
[09:46] <penguin42> agotfred: Hmm that is odd; did you do both burns on the same machine?
[09:47] <agotfred> two different ones
[09:47] <agotfred> anyway, after waiting for 15 minutes now with it repeating errors, it started and entered gnome
[09:47] <agotfred> pretty strange
[09:47] <yaeyo> hatred, maybe you need to enable some repos to find phpmyadmin ..
[09:48] <MrWoo> i have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD
[09:48] <penguin42> agotfred: Hmm it eventually starts? If it wasn't for you trying multiple I'd say the cd/drive
[09:48] <roostishaw> where can i find a guide, or could someone just walk me through it, to install the latest gaim beta?
[09:48] <agotfred> yeah, it started just now... Tried different drives, they all acted that way. Hmm, wierd I guess
[09:48] <gore_> did you check the gaim website?
[09:49] <phprooki> !wireless
[09:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:49] <Bassetts> !vnc
[09:49] <ubotu> vnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx
[09:49] <hatred> !console
[09:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about console
[09:49] <MrWoo> i have tried holding down c and cmd+opt+shift+del, but my mac G4 will not boot from the ubuntu live CD, how do i boot on a Mac from the live CD?
[09:49] <hatred> lol
[09:49] <penguin42> agotfred: Did you try swapping the IDE cable connecting the CD?
[09:49] <Bassetts> !freenx
[09:49] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[09:50] <Kragnerac> ja
[09:50] <agotfred> Penguin42: nope, didn't try that
[09:50] <xerses2i5o> how to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another
[09:50] <hatred> !consolechars
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about consolechars
[09:50] <penguin42> agotfred: Might be worth a go
[09:50] <xerses2i5o> ??
[09:50] <hatred> !paris
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about paris
[09:50] <MrWoo> !mac
[09:50] <ubotu> I know nothing about mac
[09:50] <roostishaw> where can i find a guide, or could someone just walk me through it, to install the latest gaim beta?
[09:51] <hatred> !gaim
[09:51] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[09:51] <stefg> MrWoo: tried holding [alt]  and selecting the CD from the menu there?
[09:51] <xerses2i5o> how to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another
[09:51] <xerses2i5o> plz
[09:51] <hatred> !skype
[09:51] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[09:51] <MrWoo> stefg, naw let me try that
[09:51] <kristian> ompaul, can you help me edit xorg.conf?
[09:51] <dagrump_> hello all
[09:51] <Bassetts> http://mighmos.org/packages.php << gaim beta
[09:51] <patrickj> how can I make a desktop shortcut to my home directory ?
[09:51] <Bassetts> roostishaw: http://mighmos.org/packages.php
[09:51] <patrickj> I try to do it using the make launcher but it wont go lol
[09:51] <hatred> hello just you
[09:52] <Kragnerac> !ubuntu
[09:52] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[09:52] <xerses2i5o> how to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another
[09:52] <xerses2i5o> plz
[09:52] <hatred> !xgl
[09:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:52] <Kragnerac> !sparc64
[09:52] <ubotu> I know nothing about sparc64
[09:53] <xerses2i5o> !desktop
[09:53] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[09:53] <Kragnerac> !spam
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about spam
[09:53] <Kragnerac> heh
[09:53] <hatred> lol
[09:53] <Kragnerac> !myself
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about myself
[09:53] <Kragnerac> lao
[09:53] <horacio> hola
[09:53] <Kragnerac> lmao
[09:53] <Coopster> !bot_abuse
[09:53] <xerses2i5o> !metacity
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about bot_abuse
[09:53] <ubotu> I know nothing about metacity
[09:53] <Bassetts> this is annoying
[09:53] <Bassetts> ops?
[09:53] <xerses2i5o> !theme
[09:53] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:53] <MrWoo> stefg, all i get is a screen with two arrows on it, one is in a circle and the other is a strait arrow pointing right
[09:53] <dreamcatcher5172> im having trouble mounting my windows hardrive can anyone point me in the right direction?
[09:53] <hatred> !ban
[09:53] <ubotu> If you have been banned it is probably because you have not gone along with what is acceptable behaviour. If you're not sure what acceptable behaviour is please see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[09:53] <kristian> ompaul?
[09:54] <Bassetts> Saveas ompaul ?
[09:54] <dli> !ntfs > dreamcatcher5172
[09:54] <Kragnerac> !anything
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about anything
[09:54] <pradeep> dreamcatcher5172, what's the drive: NTFS or FAT ?
[09:54] <hatred> !computers
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about computers
[09:54] <Bassetts> gnomefreak??
[09:54] <Kragnerac> !that, but I hate myself to the fullest extent.
[09:54] <ubotu> I know nothing about that, but I hate myself to the fullest extent.
[09:54] <stefg> MrWoo: that means the CD isn't recognized as bootable.. Check the CD, it's probably bad
[09:54] <Milktea> I have a file, INSTALL
[09:54] <Milktea> I try to ./INSTALL
[09:54] <ardchoille> Please don't play with the bot. It's not a toy.
[09:55] <Milktea> but I get permission denied, so I use sudo ./INSTALL
[09:55] <Karhuton> Milktea: it's a text file, not a program
[09:55] <Milktea> Oh
[09:55] <MrWoo> stefg, really?
[09:55] <Milktea> How do I install this then
[09:55] <Milktea> :X
[09:55] <Karhuton> Milktea: use: less INSTALL to read it
[09:55] <F12> Hey hatred, nice one :P
[09:55] <hatred> !bot
[09:55] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[09:55] <stefg> no, i'm trying to fool you... :-)
[09:55] <MrWoo> stefg, and i can't use the AMD64 CD my friend also gave me on the mac right?
[09:55] <ompaul> Bassetts, ?
[09:55] <Milktea> I also have makefile.am and .in
[09:55] <colpompidou> has anyone got the novell's menu applet (slab) working on Dapper ?
[09:55] <Milktea> which do I use?
[09:55] <Karhuton> Milktea: read the INSTALL file
[09:56] <xerses2i5o> how to do transfer theme+ window manager ie compiz xgl from a user to another
[09:56] <stefg> MrWoo... you need a PPC-Install for a G4
[09:56] <Bassetts> ompaul: you op?? Kragnerac was abusing the bot
[09:56] <Milktea> oh ok
[09:56] <MrWoo> stefg, well I'm downloading the PPC install disc right now, so I'll probably just try that anyway
[09:56] <ompaul> got it
[09:56] <colpompidou> I want just to try (no flamewar)
[09:56] <MrWoo> stefg, thanks for you help
[09:56] <penguin42> you'd think a bot could protect itself
[09:56] <fkdsm> (ompaul) .. the wireless is working thx ever so much :))
[09:56] <SonicChao> colpompidou, there really is no need too.
[09:56] <ompaul> kristian, it is in that web page
[09:57] <hatred> !ubotu brains
[09:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu brains
[09:57] <colpompidou> ompaul, by compiling it or with a package ?
[09:57] <kristian> ompaul, everywhere I see Screen, I switch, right
[09:57] <kristian> ?
[09:58] <ompaul> colpompidou, no idea what your asking me about
[09:58] <patrickj> for some reason when ubuntu loads I cant see the splash screen
[09:58] <ompaul> kristian, follow the instructions in that page, I am not familar with it -0 you have read it more than me at this point
[09:59] <patrickj> like basically anything linux not in x I cant see because my screen just flickers crazy and the text goes EVERYWHERE
[09:59] <patrickj> what might cause this?
[09:59] <kristian> ompaul, ok, sorry im a little asking ;)
[09:59] <hatred> !noob
[09:59] <ubotu> Words like noob, jfgi, stfu or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[10:00] <patrickj> lol
[10:00] <[0x90] > noob
[10:00] <ompaul> hatred, a little late there
[10:00] <F12> I got to ask, what is jfgi ?
[10:00] <stefg> patrickj: problems with the framebuffer... get the most recent BIOS for you MoBo and Graphics
[10:00] <Grogs> Anyone know if it is possible for my to rename what Ubuntu calls my moun ted Hard Drives (NTFS ones)? If so how?
[10:00] <ompaul> [0x90] , have you not worked it out yet?
[10:00] <[0x90] > hey man... you guys are so serious xD
[10:00] <hatred> ompaul: ?
[10:00] <[0x90] > have some fun
[10:00] <[0x90] > it is good for freeing from stress
[10:01] <hatred> !ompaul
[10:01] <ubotu> I know nothing about ompaul
[10:01] <patrickj> stefg: I have most recent..
[10:01] <[0x90] > you'll see that your life will be much bettter this way
[10:01] <F12> lol hatred good one
[10:01] <patrickj> stefg: do you mean in linux or actually in my bios
[10:01] <ompaul> !offtopic
[10:01] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:01] <F12> I sure would like to program ubotu with some information on that one
[10:02] <[0x90] > ompaul,  ok ok i know
[10:02] <ompaul> [0x90] , too busy here please cease
[10:02] <stefg> i mean the actual bios. What graphics do you have?
[10:02] <snoops> I'm looking for someone who'd be able to help with xkeybinding a key on my mx1000 mouse.. I've got the binding file and such.. but umm just need someone who knows how the syntax works and such
[10:02] <amortvigil> how do i login at phpmyadmin just installed it?
[10:02] <hatred> !ompaul leaving
[10:02] <ubotu> I know nothing about ompaul leaving
[10:03] <ompaul> hatred, leave the bot alone
[10:03] <Milktea> Hmm
[10:03] <stefg> !botabuse
[10:03] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots
[10:03] <Milktea> I installed XMMS, but it can't play any of my music
[10:03] <amortvigil> how do i login at phpmyadmin just installed it? with pma or something?
[10:03] <Milktea> I installed all of the codecs
[10:03] <Milktea> and such
[10:04] <ompaul> Milktea, are you getting any other audio
[10:04] <Milktea> yeah
[10:04] <F12> 9:03pm <F12> penis
[10:04] <F12> 9:03pm <ubotu> I know nothing about penis
[10:04] <Milktea> i can play my music through
[10:04] <F12> private is much better :P
[10:04] <hatred> !leaving bot alone
[10:04] <ubotu> I know nothing about leaving bot alone
[10:04] <SonicChao> F12 shut up.
[10:04] <Milktea> Rhythmbox
[10:04] <joe_> fd
[10:04] <SonicChao> F12, I remember you
[10:04] <dreamcatcher5172> ok i followed the guide but i got allot of permision denied..... how would i be able to mount hda in /media/windows
[10:05] <F12> I won't bug it any longer, I promise!
[10:05] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, hda ? not hda1?
[10:05] <dli> dreamcatcher5172, sudo fdisk -l
[10:06] <dreamcatcher5172> it gave me a >
[10:06] <kerm> Try playing xmms through console and see what it says
[10:06] <pedro-kun> so many people
[10:06] <pedro-kun> hi :)
[10:06] <Milktea> libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:06] <Milktea> Message: device: default
[10:06] <Milktea> :[
[10:06] <dreamcatcher5172> what does a > mean...
[10:06] <kerm> redirect output
[10:07] <pedro-kun> can someone tell the reason why i should use ubuntu instead of fedora 5?
[10:07] <hatred> install libmikmod library
[10:07] <pedro-kun> (sorry for the dumb question, but i'd really like to know...)
[10:07] <Milktea> ok
[10:07] <dli> Milktea, apt-get install libmikmod2
[10:07] <dagrump_> fedora is fugly !
[10:08] <dagrump_> jus me
[10:08] <pedro-kun> well, more reasons please
[10:08] <crazy_penguin> i wish a good night to all! take care!
[10:08] <pedro-kun> i've been told that fedora is a resource and memory hog
[10:08] <pedro-kun> is it true? (when compared to ubuntu)
[10:08] <mwe> pedro-kun: using a real distro instead of being a beta tester for redhat?
[10:08] <hatred> pedro-kun: becose ubuntu connect people, fedora doesn't
[10:08] <squiggly> don't ever use fedora
[10:08] <squiggly> my last experience with fc3 was ugh
[10:08] <kerm> fedora uses rpm packages and ubuntu uses deb packages
[10:09] <Milktea> I heard rpm was bad
[10:09] <kerm> me too, but I don't know why it would be
[10:09] <hatred> Milktea: was? :)
[10:09] <nanomad> i've  got xorg-driver-fglrx 8.26 and the restricted modules is 8.25...is that normal? i suppose no, since dri is not working.
[10:09] <Milktea> :[
[10:09] <Milktea> Anyway
[10:09] <ompaul> Milktea, it is not so much that it is bad, as a lot of bad packages are made with it and they break people systems
[10:09] <lkj1> If I got two of these could I install them on my Gateway mx7525? http://tinyurl.com/pk8vl ? Gateway support says I have 1024 MB DDR (2  512 MB) SODIMM (PC2700)
[10:09] <Juhaz> it's generally just ignorant people blaming bad packages or their own ignorance for the package manager
[10:09] <patrickj> stefg: I have a geforce 6600gt oc, it works fine in breezy
[10:09] <Milktea> I installed libmikmod2
[10:10] <patrickj> dapper just gets me
[10:10] <Milktea> And XMMS still has the problem
[10:10] <pedro-kun> and what about xgl?
[10:10] <Milktea> the music doesn't play, it's just eaten through extremely fast
[10:10] <ompaul> !sound > Milktea
[10:10] <pedro-kun> is it easy to install in dapper?
[10:10] <patrickj> where can I get a nicer xmms icon to replace the ugly one
[10:10] <Milktea> Sound is working
[10:10] <nanomad> any1 having problems with fglrx in dapper now?
[10:10] <Milktea> XMMS just doesn't play music
[10:10] <hatred> xgl suc**s
[10:10] <Milktea> It doesn't start the file
[10:10] <unity> `umount: it seems /home/unity/Stuff is mounted multiple times` and only root is allowed to do -f
[10:10] <kerm> what kind of file is it?
[10:10] <pedro-kun> hatred why do you say that?
[10:10] <Milktea> It's a playlist
[10:11] <snoops> Milktea can you play stuff in other applications?
[10:11] <Milktea> some .mp3 some .m4p
[10:11] <kerm> a .pls file or m3u
[10:11] <unity> does anyone know how to, without root, unmount a fs marked with users option if it is mounted twice? if i try, i get `umount: it seems /home/unity/Stuff is mounted multiple times` and only root is allowed to do -f
[10:11] <Milktea> snoops: Yes
[10:11] <Milktea> m3u
[10:11] <stefg> patrickj: i hear this 'works fine in breezy, but won't in dapper'-mantra a bit too often... sorry I'm afraid i can't help
[10:11] <`underOATH> Does anyone have any expierince with getting your cellphone connected to your ubuntu computer and using it as a modem as if you were using DataPilot for windows ?
[10:11] <snoops> Milktea have you tried changing the engine xmms uses?
[10:11] <snoops> in options
[10:11] <ompaul> unity, sudo umount /where/ever
[10:11] <Milktea> oh I'll check
[10:11] <hatred> fglrx works like a charm
[10:11] <skavenge> imo beep is wat better than xmms anyway, basically the same thing but cleaner menus and nicer overall, still uses winamp skins as well
[10:11] <patrickj> stefg: damnit, why not?
[10:12] <kristian> hatred, fglrx dosn't work at all :P
[10:12] <dli> skavenge, what about amarok?
[10:12] <unity> ompaul: does that require that i know the root password?
[10:12] <hatred> kristian: ?
[10:12] <snoops> amarok rocks my socks dli.. it's the reason I use linux now
[10:12] <dagrump_> i like xgl after i got it working
[10:12] <pedro-kun> isn't fglrx ATI only? :S (hatred)
[10:12] <skavenge> dli; too much clutter for me personally, i just want it to play an mp3 and thats it but i know alot of people use it
[10:12] <ompaul> unity, it requires you to know your own password if you have access rights to mount and umount
[10:12] <Milktea> snoops: I changed them but it still doesn't work
[10:12] <Stroganoff> do you know a good console-based music player?
[10:12] <Milktea> I don't think it's a problem with output
[10:12] <hatred> xgl is just eyecandy
[10:12] <dagrump_> it help no typos
[10:12] <stefg> cause i'd /guess/ instead og /knowing/... was just a sarcastic remark on the quality-control in the dapper-release
[10:13] <unity> ompaul: but shouldn't users who do not have that right still be allowed to mount and umount thing marked with users option?
[10:13] <Milktea> It goes through my playlist like a batch file
[10:13] <Milktea> :[
[10:13] <kristian> hatred: 3-4-5 time, I've forgot how many times I have tried to install fglrx. Never seems to work with me :P
[10:13] <amortvigil> how can i login phpmyadmin for first time?
[10:13] <dli> skavenge, or audacious
[10:13] <kerm> Try a .pls file
[10:13] <ompaul> Stroganoff, I use oggs >> ogg123 -d alsa 09 /path/to/music -- there is an mpg123 and an mpg321
[10:14] <dagrump_> so is google earth but its fun 2 play with
[10:14] <snoops> hatred xgl isn't eyecandy. It's an open gl rendered server layer.. compiz is the composating manager which has plugins with some eyecandy, as well as big usabily improvements
[10:14] <patrickj> stefg: sorry but I was just saying that the video wasnt messed
[10:14] <ompaul> unity, with the double mounting who knows
[10:14] <unity> ompaul: so is it like a kernel bug or something?
[10:14] <ompaul> unity, is mounting something twice a bug - perhaps
[10:14] <unity> =(
[10:14] <ompaul> unity, is mounting something twice a bug - though I think it is expected behaviour
[10:15] <snoops> Milktea I'm wondering if it's a problem with file locations.. can you drag one of the songs in directly to see?
[10:15] <Milktea> yeah, a single song works
[10:15] <ompaul> unity, I have been able to since the early I started using OSS in the early 90's
[10:15] <unity> ompaul: mount should check if it already mounted. i do not see why a user should be unable to mount something he or she mounted twice
[10:15] <Milktea> the same .m3u in rhythmbox works though
[10:15] <kerm> So, its just the m3u files you are using
[10:15] <ompaul> unity, just try it
[10:15] <stefg> oh... got something confused them... but anyway i'm watching soccer mainly... (ducks) :-)
[10:15] <skavenge> i've got a question, at random times while X is running all my videos regardless of format all wash out .. a restart of X fixes it but its rather annoying, im using totem with the gstreamer backend, used xine as well and it does the same thing .. anyone know how to fix this or at least reset without restarting X?
[10:16] <Milktea> okay, a .pls works
[10:16] <Milktea> thanks
[10:16] <unity> ompaul: try what? i have mounted something twice, and now it cannot be umounted
[10:16] <unity> ompaul: and if i mount it once, i CAN umount it
[10:17] <arcado> /server ch-irc.ch:65321
[10:17] <ompaul> unity, report it if your not happy
[10:17] <unity> ompaul: ok thanks for your help? do you know where it would be most appropriate to report?
[10:17] <patrickj> how do I change the gnome splash for when i login?
[10:18] <ompaul> unity, launchpad.net say the steps and what you expect
[10:18] <Milktea> I installed the xmms-scrobbler package, but
[10:18] <Milktea> How do I configure it?
[10:18] <kristian> Can a helpy guy out there help me edit xorg.conf?
[10:19] <hatred> kristian: in slovenian language, just follow the commands......... http://www.ubuntu.si/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instaliranje_gonilikov_za_ati-jeve_karticei
[10:19] <dli> kristian, dpkg-reconfigure ?
[10:19] <kristian> dli, just did:p
[10:19] <kristian> working with the ati drivers now
[10:19] <kristian> hatred, norwegian!!;)
[10:19] <hatred> kristian: commands are in english :)
[10:20] <kristian> hehe, noooo!!:P
[10:20] <Ademan> is there any tab reading, (even better if it can read powertab's format) software for linux?
[10:20] <kristian> well... windows got norwegian so...
[10:20] <kristian> seriously, can someone help me edit my xorg.conf file? :)
[10:20] <Hawk|-> someone knows something about usb-headsets? i cant get it working
[10:20] <patrickj> how do I change the login splash screen
[10:20] <diego> i'd like the updates to the i810 driver in Xorg's CVS installed. do i need to compile all of Xorg?
[10:20] <rioch> How do I shutdown the xserver so I just have the console left (i.e. no graphical interface whatsoever)
[10:21] <TheMoebius> anyone have any idea why when i restart kdm it doesn't display any errors and yet I'm still at console?
[10:21] <kerm> i'm having my own xorg issues...lol
[10:21] <unity> ompaul: is it relevant that the mount is smbfs?
[10:21] <rioch> kerm: me too! haha
[10:21] <diego> TheMoebius: it probably logged them
[10:21] <rioch> it's xorg problem day
[10:21] <unity> ompaul: perhaps then the report should go to samba instead?
[10:21] <kristian> i don't know where to place the stuff..
[10:21] <cius> anyone happen to know how to remove the metacity window borders for individual programs?
[10:21] <patrickj> my xorg is going fine :P
[10:21] <hatred> rioch: ctrl+alt+f1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:21] <diego> cius: the program can specify that it doesn't want to be decorated
[10:21] <amortvigil> i cant enter my phpmyadmin as root
[10:22] <kristian> patrickj, can you tell me where you placed the "new" stuff from the binarydriverhowto? :):)
[10:22] <cius> diego, and of course thats the only way, right?  Gnome's philosophies getting in the way again...
[10:22] <rioch> hatred: thanks. ill try those out.
[10:22] <diego> cius: X's philosophies on window types. there's probably another way though
[10:23] <kerm> isn't x86free an alternative to xorg?i remember using x86free on b.badger
[10:23] <diego> kerm: xfree86?
[10:23] <kerm> yeah...sorry
[10:24] <eddie> hey
[10:24] <diego> kerm: most of those developers are now working on xorg due to licensing issues with xfree86
[10:24] <Hawk|-> howto run an usb-headset unter breezy?!
[10:24] <eddie> im dual booting ubuntu and winxp with grub 0.95
[10:24] <Hawk|-> under
[10:24] <eddie> i need help
[10:24] <Hawk|-> me 2
[10:24] <Hawk|-> gettin crazy
[10:24] <dagrump_> kristian: i had to load the retricted module b4 loading the driver then it worked
[10:24] <johan_> http://pastebin.com/737962
[10:25] <kerm> diego: but they both serve the same function though right?
[10:25] <eddie> i'd like to make grub boot automatically winxp instead of ubuntu...
[10:25] <ompaul> unity, samba
[10:25] <diego> kerm: yeah, they're both x servers
[10:25] <kristian> dagrump_:ok?.
[10:25] <hatred> kristian: like this ......... sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-2.6.10-5-386 xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control
[10:25] <kerm> i'm wondering if i should try xfree86 then.
[10:26] <unity> ompaul: ok thanks again
[10:26] <eddie> i'd like to make grub boot automatically winxp instead of ubuntu.. how do i do that, help please...
[10:26] <kristian> hatred, install that?
[10:26] <inono> setting the sticky bit with chmod, is that recursive?
[10:26] <stefg> !grub
[10:26] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:26] <diego> eddie: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst change the line that says "default 0" from 0 to whatever line win xp is on minus 1
[10:27] <ice228> hi
[10:27] <diego> kerm: it's highly unlikely
[10:27] <ice228> does anyone know how to install XMMS?
[10:27] <kerm> apt-get install xmms
[10:27] <ZimShady> use the package installer
[10:27] <sktx> hehe
[10:27] <hatred> kristian: you need restricted modules for your kernel version
[10:28] <stefg> !faq> kerm
[10:28] <ZimShady> i need some help with a wirelss card
[10:28] <ZimShady> netgear MA401
[10:28] <ZimShady> i have tried everything
[10:28] <kerm> !faq
[10:28] <ubotu> faq is http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions Official documentation is at http://help.ubuntu.com IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[10:28] <ZimShady> i have tried all the internet documentation
[10:28] <sktx> tried tinkering with ndiswrapper?
[10:28] <ZimShady> the forums
[10:28] <ZimShady> it doesnt use ndiswrapper
[10:28] <kerm> stefg: did i do somethong wrong?
[10:28] <kristian> that's wrong kernel version, hatred. How do I check it again? sudo...
[10:29] <ice228> ok, fropmthe package instaler what do i select? imrunning live CD , HD broke down
[10:29] <hatred> kristian: uname -r
[10:29] <goonies> hey guys, i was compiling my kernel and keep gettin an error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958
[10:29] <diego> ice228: search for "xmms"
[10:29] <stefg> no, except not reading the faq, where you find the info you want
[10:29] <kristian> 2.6.15-25-k7
[10:29] <sktx> ndiswrapper, to the best of my knowledge, is a compatibility layer between windows wireless drivers and linux
[10:29] <Hawk|-> nobody has a usb-headset?!
[10:29] <ice228> i found xmms , butnothing seemslike the base install, more like plugins and such
[10:30] <stefg> !info xmms
[10:30] <ubotu> xmms: Versatile X audio player. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10+cvs20050809-4ubuntu5 (dapper), package size 1029 kB, installed size 7256 kB
[10:30] <sktx> ice228: no plain ol' xmms pacage?
[10:30] <Ireclan> I have questions about Ubuntu. Is someone available to answer them?
[10:30] <goonies> am i doing something wrong that enables that error?
[10:30] <ice228> i ddint see that one,m rechecking
[10:30] <sktx> ice228: you comfortable using the console?
[10:30] <ice228> sort of
[10:30] <diego> Ireclan: just ask
[10:30] <ZimShady> sktx: what if there are drivers for redhat?
[10:30] <ZimShady> would that work?
[10:31] <Milktea> What's a good SVN.. thing?
[10:31] <diego> Milktea: client?
[10:31] <Milktea> yeah
[10:31] <ice228> wait, found it
[10:31] <sktx> open up your console and type sudo apt-get xmms
[10:31] <sktx> ahh
[10:31] <sktx> or find it.
[10:31] <ice228> thanks, i was looking in the universe rep
[10:31] <sktx> hehe
[10:31] <kristian> hatred, restricted module installed
[10:31] <diego> Milktea: the command line one isn't hard to work with
[10:31] <Ireclan> Is Ubuntu for people who just want something to replace windows?
[10:31] <ZimShady> sktx: would redhat drivers work?
[10:31] <Milktea> I don't remember the SVN rep URL that easily
[10:31] <hatred> kristian: Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo modprobe -r fglrx, uname -r, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf1, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:32] <diego> Milktea: once you've checked out once you don't need the url every time
[10:32] <Milktea> Oh
[10:32] <Milktea> Well, I don't have the command line one installed yet
[10:32] <kristian> wow
[10:32] <Milktea> What's the package called?
[10:32] <snoops> how can I make custom xkeybinding? like is there a way to find out the name of what is being clicked.. and map it to another key or a combo?
[10:32] <ice228> ubuntu is linux for people who just found out what linux is and want an easy approach to it,in my opinion
[10:32] <diego> Milktea: apt-get install subversion
[10:32] <Milktea> thanks
[10:32] <kerm> stefg: i wasn't aware my questions were that trivial...sorry.
[10:33] <`underOATH> Does anyone know about using a phone as a modem with wvdial
[10:33] <stefg> np... next you know
[10:33] <ice228> im running live cd with 400mhz and 394 mb ram, 8 meg video card, smooth , real smooth :)
[10:33] <Ireclan> So, will I have to use the terminal alot with Ubuntu?
[10:33] <ice228> at times
[10:33] <sktx> ZimShady: i don't know, really... what do you mean by redhat drivers? are they generic drivers in .rpm packages?
[10:33] <ZimShady> on the netgear site
[10:33] <ZimShady> they have drivers for redhat
[10:33] <hatred> kristian: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add lines: Load GLcore Load glx Load dri Load extmod SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga Driver fglrx Option VideoOverlay on Option OpenGLOverlay off Option UseInternalAGPGART no
[10:34] <ice228> everything is pretty much iconified in the menus
[10:34] <diego> Ireclan: you shouldn't have to but it's a lot easier to give people commands instead of "Click on this button, then the left tab, etc"
[10:34] <sktx> ZimShady: hrmmm
[10:34] <ice228> true
[10:34] <ninix> Hi, anyone use point2play here ? i need some help for installation
[10:34] <ZimShady> one sec ill link you
[10:34] <sktx> alrighty
[10:34] <hatred> kristian: then .......  sudo reboot
[10:34] <Ireclan> How good is the technical support for Ubuntu?
[10:34] <ice228> your in it
[10:34] <ZimShady> sktx: http://kbserver.netgear.com/products/ma401.asp
[10:34] <sktx> its the best
[10:35] <goonies> anyone experienced with command line errors help me out
[10:35] <ice228> this is the technical support lol
[10:35] <goonies> can*
[10:35] <ZimShady> on the left
[10:35] <ZimShady> they have a link to redhat drivers
[10:35] <ice228> im experienced with them, i get them all the time
[10:35] <hatred> !support
[10:35] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[10:35] <sktx> community tech support.
[10:35] <goonies> sounded like a demand without the can
[10:35] <charle97> ireclan, technical support is done by the community
[10:35] <Ireclan> Is there good documentation for Ubuntu?
[10:35] <ice228> !support
[10:35] <ubotu> For your support options, see http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[10:35] <ice228> lol
[10:35] <Flannel> not all of it.  You can pay for support too, if you want to.
[10:35] <hatred> !documentation
[10:35] <ubotu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[10:35] <eddie> ive another question
[10:36] <goonies> this is the error i seem to be getting, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958
[10:36] <ice228> i need a 40 gig asap
[10:36] <stefg> who won'T?
[10:36] <eddie> im new at linux, yesterday ive installed ubuntu, the installation process never asked me for a root password
[10:36] <Ireclan> So, once I install Ubuntu, is there any way of getting it off the HD?
[10:36] <eddie> is there any default root password
[10:36] <sktx> well Zim
[10:36] <stefg> !root
[10:36] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:36] <ice228> anyopne knowhowlong i cankeep my system up under live cd and will my files be deleted if i reboot?
[10:36] <sktx> ZimShady: i would try it out, since nothing else has worked
[10:37] <AlexC> Hey
[10:37] <AlexC> I've just installed XGL Oh my god it's amazing
[10:37] <sktx> ZimShady: i'd download it and pick through it and try and offer some insight
[10:37] <charle97> eddie, try an empty password
[10:37] <Flannel> ice228: you can setup the liveCD to write some config stuff to the disk, but yeah, by default, everything is fresh
[10:37] <AlexC> Does anyone have a list of shortcuts or a program to configure them?
[10:37] <eddie> ive tried
[10:37] <charle97> eddie, if you get in make sure you make a password
[10:37] <Flannel> eddie: there is no root password, as root isn't used.
[10:37] <ice228> hard drive is fubar\
[10:37] <ZimShady> sktx: it actually says it will probably work with other kernals
[10:37] <ZimShady> so im gonna try it
[10:37] <Milktea> I -would- use Ubuntu with XGL for everything
[10:38] <eddie> what do i do if i want to run root account
[10:38] <Ireclan> errrrm.....
[10:38] <AlexC> Milktea, It's great!!
[10:38] <charle97> eddie, sudo
[10:38] <Flannel> eddie: read that page.  it tells you.
[10:38] <AlexC> Milktea, do you know a list of shortcuts to do this with?
 So, once I install Ubuntu, is there any way of getting it off the HD?
[10:38] <Milktea> but RO doesn't play under it, Wc3 under XGL is buggy (normal under Gnome, though)
[10:38] <Flannel> Ireclan: yeah, delete it.
[10:38] <Milktea> and Gimp isn't as good as ps in my mind
[10:38] <Flannel> Ireclan: reformat the ubuntu partitions
[10:38] <Milktea> AlexC: try getting gset-compiz
[10:38] <sktx> ZimShady: good luck.. it might require some tweakin' but i'll bet it'll fit :p
[10:39] <Ireclan> Flannel reformat with what program?
[10:39] <sktx> Milktea: yeah there are a few things that PS can do that the GIMP can't
[10:39] <Ireclan> *:
[10:39] <kristian> hatred, i didn't know that computer did what it did when i pressed ctrl + alt + f1
[10:39] <AlexC> Milktea, is there a way to get Metacity themes in XGL?
[10:39] <kristian> :P
[10:39] <snoops> what's the key combo to simulate a middle click?
[10:39] <Milktea> I dunno
[10:39] <kristian> so you have to send the things again hatred
[10:39] <sktx> Milktea: but it still a pretty badass graphics suite
[10:39] <AlexC> Milktea, ahhh ok, just the default looks like poo, litertly
[10:39] <Flannel> Ireclan: whatever you'd like.  You could use a liveCD, or, as I presume you'll be removing ubuntu and going back to [whatever]  you can use the disk utils on that
[10:39] <Milktea> sktx: Yeah, I opened up my older .psd's with gimp
[10:40] <kristian> and what do the commands do hatred?
[10:40] <Milktea> A bunch of the layer effects were... gone
[10:40] <Flannel> Milktea, AlexC, take the XGL/compiz discussions to #ubuntu-xgl please
[10:40] <stefg> !themes
[10:40] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://art.ubuntu.com - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEyeCandy
[10:40] <AlexC> Flannel, woops, didn't know there was one - sorry
[10:40] <Ireclan> Windows has no HD utilities for deleating HD partitions, that I know of.
[10:40] <hatred> kristian: those commands are needed for proper fglrx install
[10:41] <skavenge> windows uses fdisk
[10:41] <Flannel> Ireclan: yes it does.  fdisk.  Or you can get some third party software.  Or you can use the ubuntu liveCD, but that won't be able to format it for ntfs
[10:41] <skavenge> which is on the install cd ..
[10:41] <hatred> kristian: you must shutdown your X and run commands in console
[10:41] <kristian> okai...
[10:42] <kristian> I have to write down all of the commands by hand?
[10:42] <hatred> kristian: Ctrl+Alt+F1, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, sudo modprobe -r fglrx, uname -r, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control, sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf1, sudo pico /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:42] <Ireclan> Where uis this "fdisk"?
[10:42] <Ireclan> *is
[10:42] <hatred> kristian: yep
[10:42] <kristian> okai then :P;)
[10:42] <hyalu_> hi I was wondering if theres any package that would allow me to select an access point via a GUI - it would list available access points and show their strengths and allow me ot connect to one or the other.
[10:42] <Flannel> Ireclan: ask in ##windows, I don't know.
[10:42] <hatred> kristian: then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add lines: Load GLcore Load glx Load dri Load extmod SubSection extmod Option omit xfree86-dga Driver fglrx Option VideoOverlay on Option OpenGLOverlay off Option UseInternalAGPGART no
[10:42] <ice228> fdisk ?
[10:42] <skavenge> on the windows cd, when you boot off the cd to command prompt you run it then
[10:43] <hatred> kristian: then .......  sudo reboot
[10:43] <ice228> go to http://www.bootdisk.com, getthewindows98 se bootdisk, its inthere
[10:43] <Ireclan> I have no Windows CD. It came preinstalled.
[10:43] <ice228> bootdisk.com
[10:43] <Flannel> hatred: shouldn't need to reboot.
[10:43] <charle97> ireclan, a dell?
[10:43] <Ireclan> I have Windows XP.
[10:43] <ice228> problyt an HP
[10:44] <Ireclan> Yes, an HP.
[10:44] <ice228> ding! pavilion1265 seriesright?
[10:44] <charle97> ireclan, that's how they lock you in so you don't try things
[10:44] <skavenge> regardless you should have a backup disc  with windows utilities, if not bootdisk.com has floppy boot images you with fdisk you can make
[10:44] <hatred> Flannel: he shouldn't but for sure :)
[10:45] <Ireclan> a705W
[10:45] <ice228> old
[10:45] <snoops> can someone show me how to bind a key to another key with from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MX1000Mouse ? I'm wanting to put my sidescroll left button to be a middle click.. no idea how to do it
[10:45] <dagrump_> hp is pain in the butt
[10:45] <ice228> not old, just sucky
[10:45] <snoops> can someone help with that?
[10:45] <Ireclan> Is what my computer says.
[10:45] <kristian> hatred, <verzija kernela> ???
[10:46] <hatred> kristian: kernel version, replace with what you get from uname -r
[10:46] <ice228> i have an a1265w , paid 691$ for 512 DDR2 PC-3200 , 2.93ghz 1mb L2 and an Ultra ATA 200gb HD,on boardvideoand evertything else, 9-1 cardreader
[10:46] <daddius> hello
[10:47] <Ireclan> The major problem I had with Ubuntu last time I tried it was with it not detecting my monitor resolutions correctly and it not doing a damn thing with my modem.
[10:47] <hatred> kristian: all commands ......... http://www.ubuntu.si/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=instaliranje_gonilikov_za_ati-jeve_karticei
[10:47] <charle97> ireclan, how long ago?
[10:47] <kristian> aaah, ok hatred..
[10:48] <inono> how do I untar something into a specific directory
[10:48] <hatred> kristian: yes , article is in slovenian language, but commands are en
[10:48] <KyoLptp`_> Hey
[10:48] <KyoLptp`_> How do I get my microphone working properly for skype?
[10:48] <skavenge> inono; follow the tar command with a path - tar -xvf blah.tar /blah/
[10:48] <Ireclan> I tried Hoary Hedgehog.
[10:48] <Ireclan> It was a nightmare.
[10:48] <inono> ah
[10:48] <inono> nice
[10:48] <inono> i was going to xargs mv but that wouldnt work
[10:49] <inono> skavenge, that doesnt work it tries to extract 1 file from the archive
[10:49] <hatred> kristian: print the procedure and you must succeed
[10:49] <skavenge> hm
[10:50] <Ireclan> I couldn't get online or anything.
[10:50] <Ireclan> It just.......didn't detect the modem.
[10:50] <inono> skavenge, found it its -C bah
[10:50] <Ireclan> Didn't have a driver for it.
[10:50] <howy424> hey, does anyone any experience with HTML editors on ubuntu? I just tried Bluefish, which I heard good things about, and it crashed within the first 5 mins of using it!
[10:51] <skavenge> inono; yeah i was just reading the man page saw that too heh
[10:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Ireclan: DOnt blame a distro or Linux because it dosent support a cheezy winmodem.
[10:51] <Ireclan> So, then I tried SuSe 10. No luck with it either, but it at least got my resolution right.
[10:52] <inono> skavenge, now how would I untar every file in a directory..hmm
[10:52] <skavenge> got me there i dont use tar much
[10:52] <KyoLptp`_> Anyone?
[10:52] <diego> inono: cd to that directory?
[10:52] <diego> howy424: try nvu
[10:52] <hatred> !ati
[10:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:52] <Ireclan> Mr. Sparrow, I don't know about you, but out here, dial-up and a "cheezy" Winmodem are all we've got.
[10:52] <inono> diego, in it already, tar xzvf * doesnt work
[10:53] <Flannel> kristian: you can get back on irc with irssi, in a console.
[10:53] <hatred> !fglrx
[10:53] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:53] <Jack_Sparrow> KyoLptp`_:  the word on the street is that Skype for Linux is still a bit buggy but improving
[10:53] <skavenge> not all modems are WINmodems though .. the standard hardware modems are much more compatible with linux
[10:53] <KyoLptp`_> Hm, well can I at least configure my microphone in Ubuntu?
[10:53] <KyoLptp`_> I can't hear anything through it
[10:53] <Ireclan> I don't have a hardware modem.
[10:54] <skavenge> hence the issues with detecting it
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Ireclan: You can get a real modem that works for windows and Linux for $20... Not one that is simulated by the os XP
[10:54] <Ireclan> I don't think Walmart carries it out here either.
[10:54] <goonies> can someone help me, ive searched ubuntu forums, googled, and no success, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/16958
[10:54] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: you can get winmodems to work with linux, most of them anyway.
[10:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Use using linmodem drivers
[10:55] <Jack_Sparrow> But they are still a low end product even for Windows
[10:55] <skavenge> with some work yes, its not spoonfed though .. some people dont like work heh
[10:55] <udk____> hey all
[10:55] <goonies> keep getting this error, figures the error i get is no where to be found online
[10:55] <kristian> Flannel, what? irc?
[10:55] <udk____> anyone knows how to get NX running on Dapper/amd64?
[10:56] <kristian> I have written down everything now hatred
[10:56] <kristian> Emh, Why am I doing this? :)
[10:56] <goonies> anyone? =\
[10:57] <howy424> diego: thanks for that, I just checked it out but I am after a "non-wysiwyg" editor
[10:57] <`underOATH> How long until the forums are back up. I need to read a post quick before I leave for vacation.
[10:57] <Ireclan> Do you guys/gals have any reccomendations for a distro with a good track record for compatibility with Winmodems?
[10:57] <diego> howy424: oh, sorry. gedit works :)
[10:57] <goonies> lindows
[10:57] <goonies> lol
[10:57] <skavenge> linux has a bad record with winmodems, its not distro specific
[10:57] <dagrump_> goonies:  did you go to the url?
[10:57] <goonies> naw i mustve missed it
[10:57] <daddius> Hello is there a way to disable daemons on startup?
[10:58] <howy424> diego: that's cool, lemme go have a look
[10:58] <Milktea> Can OpenOffice write/read .docx yet
[10:58] <hatred> kristian: don't blame me if something goes wrong but if works on my pc.........
[10:58] <Ireclan> I suppose the only alternative is to get a Mac..........
[10:59] <Ireclan> But they're pretty expensive, you know?
[10:59] <hatred> daddius: system services
[10:59] <diego> Ireclan: or broadband?
[10:59] <daddius> hatred, yea
[10:59] <goonies> dagrump_, can u repost plz
[10:59] <lophyte> Ireclan: or a Linux-compatible modem, or a high-speed connection :P
[10:59] <kimo> Ireclan: or sreial modem!
[10:59] <Ireclan> They don't offer broadband where I live.
[10:59] <`underOATH> WHEN ARE THE FORUMS GOING BACK UP
[10:59] <daddius> hatred, thanks
[10:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Ireclan: That makes sence, Buy a New Mac for Thousand instead of a decent modem for $20
[11:00] <skavenge> as was said before, 90% of the winmodems will work with some configuration work, but its not going to work off a fresh install
[11:00] <`underOATH> Hello, anyone ?!
[11:00] <dagrump_> goonies : i believe thats the pastebin for file errors
[11:00] <Ireclan> And none of the stores carry a serial modem.
[11:00] <goonies> so im pasting it in the wrong place?
[11:00] <Ireclan> From what I can tell, anyway.....
[11:01] <Sanne> `underOATH, might get better response in #ubuntuforums, they might know
[11:01] <kimo> Ireclan: Get the super cheap Conexant modem & buy their driver ?!
[11:01] <Jack_Sparrow> goonies: Yea, it tries to get you to set up an account just to read your post
[11:01] <dagrump_> i m not sure just started playing w/ this
[11:01] <skavenge> or order one online
[11:01] <dli> kimo, no, buy a real modem :)
[11:01] <Ireclan> They don't stock Connexant.
[11:01] <goonies> oh sheez
[11:01] <dli> kimo, not conexant
[11:01] <kimo> :)
[11:02] <kimo> everyone has a conexant where I live
[11:02] <Odei> hi, anyone know where I can find a default apache2.conf file?
[11:02] <hatred> buy stuff with tux logo on it
[11:02] <skavenge> order it online then, dont rely on walmart for your computing needs .. i ordered everything off the net when i lived in the sticks
[11:02] <hatred> Odei: apache.org?
[11:02] <Flannel> Odei: ubuntu doesn't use a default apache.conf file
[11:03] <Ireclan> Hmmmmmmmm...........
[11:03] <Odei> Flannel: the one that comes with the fresh install
[11:03] <Fata1> is ubuntu normally unstable or have i just failed as an operator? :P
[11:04] <Fata1> i've had 3-4 freezes in the past day
[11:04] <lophyte> works perfect for me
[11:04] <hatred> !irc
[11:04] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[11:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Ub is very stable what is the prob
[11:04] <wooby> when attempting to build an amd64 .deb of wine, i get this error: checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[11:04] <skavenge> golden here, ive never had it crash
[11:04] <howy424> diego: yes, gedit looks like it could be great. My fav of all time, on Win, is EditPlus, and it looks a lot like that
[11:04] <Stormx2> How do I make ubuntu re-read my fstab without rebooting?
[11:04] <bbrazil> wooby: aptitude install build-essential
[11:04] <diego> howy424: cool
[11:04] <Flannel> Odei: hmm, well, you could always reinstall apache, if you purge it on the uninstall, you can reinstall and be fresh again.
[11:04] <Fata1> i dont know what the problem is...i will be doing some random action and it will just freeze
[11:04] <sktx> Fata1: what do you mean freezes? like hard lockups?
[11:04] <penguin42> Stormx2: depends what you want to do, but mount -a   will try and mount everything in there
[11:04] <howy424> going to try Quanta too
[11:04] <Fata1> yep, no controls work
[11:05] <sktx> Fata1: in a specific program, or...?
[11:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2:  You trying to mount other partitions
[11:05] <wooby> bbrazil: they're up to date, still same error though :(
[11:05] <goonies> Jack_Sparrow, http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/871
[11:05] <Fata1> it's happened when i've tried to mount an NTFS drive and when trying to get to my myspace homepage
[11:05] <dribble> any of y'all have problems with rhythmbox crashing into an un-killable state?
[11:05] <bbrazil> wooby: are you on solaris by any chance :)
[11:05] <goonies> does that one let u view my error
[11:05] <wooby> bbrazil: na
[11:05] <sktx> Fata1: have you installed any wonky packages ?
[11:05] <dribble> and excuse my southern (online) twang ;)
[11:05] <Milktea> How do I remove a dir
[11:05] <Fata1> if it was one of the updates, yes
[11:05] <dribble> Milktea, rm -r directory
[11:05] <bbrazil> wooby: you're running this off amd64?
[11:05] <Fata1> i only installed the critical updates
[11:05] <Milktea> thanks
[11:05] <wooby> bbrazil: correct
[11:06] <wooby> bbrazil: 6.06
[11:06] <Rude_Boy> I'm having trouble upgrading to dapper. The update-manager tells me that it has "Invalid package information" and to "please report this as a bug".
[11:06] <Sanne> Fata1, sometimes those problems might be because of hardware troubles, I would suggest to let memtest run to check your memory.
[11:06] <sktx> Fata1: that shouldn't do it (ideally)
[11:07] <sktx> good call sanne
[11:07] <Jack_Sparrow> goonies:  What is it you are trying to do that generated that output
[11:07] <Fata1> how steep is the learning curve for using the terminal after being a lifetime windows users?
[11:07] <Fata1> cause i cant even extract a tar.gz file in it
[11:07] <Fata1> :/
[11:07] <goonies> Jack_Sparrow, compile my kernel
[11:07] <penguin42> Fatal: What happens - the tar crashes or the whole machine?
[11:07] <Milktea> Is there any way
[11:07] <Milktea> to remove a svn co
[11:07] <stefg> !bash
[11:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:07] <Fata1> no input device will work
[11:07] <Sanne> Fata1, if you can type, and follow directions, the terminal is not hard ;)
[11:07] <Fata1> i assume the machine is frozen
[11:07] <Milktea> without having to hit y every time it asks to delete something
[11:08] <bbrazil> wooby: does gcc work for a quick hello world?
[11:08] <roy_> hey everyone.  quick question.  I have a folder full of pdfs.  they all have the same general filename tnryyyymmdd.  some have the .pdf extension, most don't.  I want to make all of them have the .pdf extension.  how do I do this in command line?
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> FataIt just takes a little time..
[11:08] <Flannel> Milktea: what are you trying to do?
[11:08] <skavenge> Milktea: rm -rf then
[11:08] <Jack_Sparrow> Fata It just takes a little time..
[11:08] <Milktea> thanks
[11:08] <Fata1> hehe, i couldn't even figure out how to install bitchx
[11:08] <Fata1> i was looking for the exe file :/
[11:08] <skavenge> bx is in the repos
[11:08] <Gullstad> !automatix
[11:08] <ubotu> automatix is a script that automates installation of some items and has been reported to break your system while doing that, please see http://help.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation instead.
[11:08] <wooby> bbrazil: yeah
[11:08] <Flannel> Milktea: remove a local subversion copy?  yeah, just delete everything
[11:08] <Gullstad> !easyubuntu
[11:08] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[11:08] <amortvigil> how do i get outof root?
[11:09] <wooby> bbrazil: checking out the config.log, it seems to be skipping a bunch of libs on account of "incompatible"
[11:09] <skavenge> 'exit'?
[11:09] <Milktea> yeah but using -r without -f makes me hit y a lot
[11:09] <Flannel> Rude_Boy: you might check launchpad.net (that's ubuntu's bug repository), they might have a workaround/fix
[11:09] <Milktea> :[
[11:09] <bbrazil> wooby: I suggest digging into the ./configure and seeing what test it's running
[11:09] <Sanne> roy_, I'm usinf the command 'rename' for such things. If you don't have it, you should be able to install it through your package manager. Ri learn how to use it, try 'man rename'.
[11:09] <wooby> bbrazil: so it can't find a working -lc
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> amortvigil: type exit
[11:09] <Flannel> amortvigil: depends on how you got into it
[11:09] <bbrazil> wooby: maybe it doesn't like amd64?
[11:09] <fyrestrtr> roy_: or, just use cp
[11:09] <johan_> how do I take a screenshot from the terminal?
[11:09] <wooby> bbrazil: it definitely does not lol
[11:09] <goonies> Jack_Sparrow, didnt realize that that first pastebin made people register to view posts...heh
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:10] <Odei> Flannel: thanks, I just realised I wasn't removing the right part of the apache install, fixed now :)
[11:10] <wooby> bbrazil: any idea where i might be able to get a built 64 bit deb for this, some unnoficial repository?
[11:10] <skavenge> ive heard wine in general doesnt like 64 bit systems, but thats just rumor
[11:10] <bbrazil> wooby: google it i'd say - or check the wiki
[11:10] <Jack_Sparrow> goonies: what is the purpose of the new kernel you are trying to compile.  I only compiled one.
[11:10] <wooby> bbrazil: ok thanks anyway
[11:11] <Milktea> svn: Can't set file 'athenadev/.svn/entries' read-only: Operation not permitted
[11:11] <Milktea> o.O
[11:11] <goonies> to get hyperthreading to work, and its very bloated with stuff i dont need
[11:11] <goonies> im already done configuring but as u can see it crashes
[11:11] <goonies> http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/app/view/871 , for those that havent seen my problem
[11:11] <Jack_Sparrow> goonies: trust me, you are not done configuring
[11:12] <goonies> this isnt the first kernel ive configured
[11:12] <skavenge> im offically throwing frost/limewire out the window .. damn things lock up every other time loading 'core components' and i cant figure out the culprit
[11:12] <goonies> this is the first time i run into this problem though
[11:12] <dribble> anybody with crappy rythmbox problems: crashing and inability to hard-kill the process
[11:12] <lasindi> Hi all, I need to install an RPM, and I know that I can install the RPM system through apt-get, but I was wondering if there was any (better) alternatives. For example, I use rpm2tgz on my Slackware machine. Is there something like this for the Debian packaging system?
[11:13] <skavenge> lasindi: 'alien'
[11:13] <asdf25> hey, i'm having a problem with azureus... when it pops up the error message window the "hide" button doesn't work so it stays open forever... anyone know how to fix that?
[11:13] <mwe> dribble: not even kill -9 works?
[11:13] <finalbeta> is their a way to start xchat/gaim when the session starts and put them both inside the tray? (or panel)
[11:13] <dribble> mwe, naw - the process is listed as 'uninterruptable'
[11:14] <goonies> =\
[11:14] <Fata1> what's the command to mount an ntfs drive?
[11:14] <siriusnova> hey guys
[11:14] <dribble> mwe, and kill -9 doesn't have any effect
[11:14] <siriusnova> anyone here using Beagle?
[11:14] <asdf25> mount -t nfts
[11:14] <Stormx2> siriusnova: I do.
[11:14] <mwe> dribble: what is it listed as with ps aux?
[11:14] <siriusnova> Stormx2 - does it index your applications?
[11:14] <siriusnova> i installed it and it works fine for files but apps dont show up
[11:14] <asdf25> mount -t ntfs /dev/whatever /media/whatever
[11:14] <dribble> mwe, haven't checked yet -- i'm brining it up now, and expect it to crash within half an hour, so i'll keep yah posted
[11:14] <Fata1> i get permission denied when trying to access those drives
[11:15] <lasindi> skavenge: okay thanks
[11:15] <skavenge> np
[11:15] <asdf25> er, run it with sudo?
[11:15] <goonies> =\
[11:15] <goonies> guess no one knows
[11:15] <Rude_Boy> Flannel: Thanks, i foud it, it's confirmed bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/48215/+viewstatus. Any idea if it'll help to do it manually?
[11:15] <Fata1> it mounts fine, but i cant access them
[11:15] <asdf25> ohh, right
[11:15] <Hawk|-> someone uses an usb-headset?
[11:15] <Stormx2> siriusnova: I... don't know.
[11:15] <Stormx2> siriusnova: Let me see
[11:16] <Hawk|-> i need help get it working
[11:16] <mwe> Fata1: use -o umask=0222
[11:16] <asdf25> #/dev/hdc1       /media/WinXP1    ntfs    umask=0022,ro   0       0
[11:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Fata1: I used the disk mounter script to mount my ntfs and fat32 drives, Please avoid writing to ntfs unless you want to cry..
[11:16] <asdf25> that's the line i have in /etc/fstab
[11:16] <agotfred> does anyone know of a good script to install XGL or would it be the best just to do it yourself?
[11:16] <Stormx2> siriusnova: It doesn't :O:O
[11:16] <kristian> hatred? this ... sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-<verzija kernela> xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx-control dosn't work:S
[11:16] <siriusnova> Stormx2 - yeah i guess its a bug :/
[11:16] <mwe> asdf25: you're allowing write access
[11:16] <kristian> hatred, <verzija kernela> am i going to switch that with my own kernel?
[11:17] <mwe> asdf25: oh no
[11:17] <erUSUL> goonies: i have seen the page but can not figure out what can be wrong. it seems a bug to me. have you retried after an 'make mrproper'?
[11:17] <asdf25> really? "ro"
[11:17] <asdf25> yeah
[11:17] <mwe> asdf25: but 0022 is write access
[11:17] <goonies> i havent tried make mrproper
[11:17] <mwe> asdf25: lose ro and change it to 0222
[11:17] <goonies> should i type that before i compile?
[11:17] <Gullstad> !ircii
[11:17] <Grogs> If there any reason why I can't open 7zip files?
[11:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about ircii
[11:17] <goonies> well obviously..heh
[11:17] <Gullstad> How start ircII?
[11:17] <dagrump_> agotfred: do it urself 2 many varibles get all info 1st
[11:17] <erUSUL> goonies: just to be sure that there is no corrupt file from previus compilations
[11:18] <goonies> this is the first time i ever compiled on ubuntu
[11:18] <agotfred> does anyone know what file manager that's on this screenshot?
[11:18] <sktx> Gullstad: is it installed?
[11:18] <Gullstad> sktx: Yes.
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Fata1: http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/ use the diskmounter script then restart your box...
[11:18] <Rude_Boy> Thanks, i foud it, it's confirmed bug. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/48215/+viewstatus. Any idea if it'll help to do it manually?
[11:18] <erUSUL> goonies: auch!! then it is a bug you should report it...
[11:19] <erUSUL> !bugs
[11:19] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu, please report it at http://bugs.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <sktx> Gullstad: open up a console and type ircii
[11:19] <Gullstad> sktx: Nope :s
[11:19] <Grogs> Mus tbe boring saying that all day Jack_Sparrow , although I'm sure it will help him just as much as it did me and mean a lot to him too. :)
[11:19] <agotfred> does anyone know what file manager that's on this screenshot? http://www.gnome-look.org//content/pre2/35812-2.jpg
[11:19] <Stormx2> Guys... I need to know an absolutely failsafe way to move files in a directory into the parent directory. For example ~/lol1/lol2/* to ~/lol1
[11:19] <erUSUL> Grogs: you do not have a program instaled that can handle them
[11:20] <Stormx2> I guess mv... I just don't know the perfect syntax for it :P
[11:20] <Grogs> I thought i did.
[11:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Grogs: YEs a little boring, but glad it helped you...
[11:20] <Stormx2> 2 years of music is on the line so I don't want to rush into it :P
[11:20] <dooglus> Stormx2: what if the files are already in the target directory?
[11:20] <CrippsFX> Stormx2, don't know the mv syntax?
[11:20] <Grogs>  Even downloaded another (the current archive manager seems to support them according to description) which doeesn't open it.
[11:20] <Stormx2> dooglus: Mainly folders, roughly 300. Folders contain files and other folders. Its a VFAT partition
[11:20] <kbrooks> OK Ubuntu community
[11:20] <dooglus> Stormx2: I mean if ~/lol1/README.txt and ~/lol1/lol2/README.txt both exist already?
[11:21] <erUSUL> Stormx2: sacado de un how to '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)'
[11:21] <Stormx2> dooglus: Oh. None of the same names.
[11:21] <Stormx2> I checked that.
[11:21] <Stormx2> Just a few folders.
[11:21] <erUSUL> Stormx2: from a how to '(cd /source/directory && tar cf - . ) | (cd /dest/directory && tar xvfp -)'
[11:21] <Stormx2> Wait they do have the same names
[11:21] <KenSentMe|afk> I want to start all over with configuring cups. How can i put cups in the standard config?
[11:21] <BearPerson> Stormx2, mv -T foo/bar foo might work
[11:21] <Milktea> Is shift+p some kind of hotkey
[11:21] <Milktea> I can't type capital p
[11:21] <Stormx2> XD~~
[11:21] <erUSUL> KenSentMe|afk: remove --purge cups and reinstall
[11:21] <dooglus> Stormx2: don't do what erUSUL is saying unless you want to copy the files.  It'll be much quicker to move them that to do what he says
[11:22] <KenSentMe|afk> erUSUL: then it also removes ubuntu-desktop :)
[11:22] <Stormx2> Yes. 30gb would take a long time to copy :P
[11:22] <dooglus> Stormx2: you just want to move stuff, right?
[11:22] <CrippsFX> cd ~/lol1/
[11:22] <erUSUL> KenSentMe|afk: install it again after that
[11:22] <Stormx2> Let me get rid of folders of the same name.
[11:22] <askyle> dpkg-reconfigure cups (?)
[11:22] <CrippsFX> bleh.
[11:22] <CrippsFX> it's almost bedtime
[11:23] <sktx> agotfred: that looks like nautilus to me
[11:23] <kbrooks> OK, Ubuntu Community. We all should testt EasyUbuntu (use it). if it doesn't work, file a bug at https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu. Version to test: 3.02.1, available at http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/files/easyubuntu-3.021.tar.gz
[11:23] <Stormx2> dooglus: Yeah basicly...
[11:23] <Fata1> ran diskmounter and i'm still denied access of viewing the drives
[11:23] <Sutener> hoi
[11:23] <agotfred> sktx: just found out that it is the file manager named Thunar
[11:23] <Stormx2> I'm gonna just check the stuff on mv
[11:23] <mwe> KenSentMe|afk: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package. it doesn' contain any actual packages. reinstall that afterwards as well if you like
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> fata, did you restart your system?
[11:23] <Bassetts> how can i force a window to close?
[11:23] <Fata1> it said i didn't have to
[11:24] <dooglus> Stormx2: "mv * .." will do what you want, unless some of the stuff is hidden (ie. begins with a dot)
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> I said you do..
[11:24] <asdf25> Bassetts: xkill is one way
[11:24] <Fata1> fine...
[11:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: Right, OK.
[11:24] <Bassetts> how do i open that
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> THey will be on your desktop when it opens
[11:24] <Stormx2> dooglus: I'm gonna do that, thanks!
[11:24] <mwe> Bassetts: killall -9 program name
[11:24] <askyle> naive question: i can't get the old school curses-based installer from the dapper i386-desktop cd, can i?
[11:24] <asdf25> Bassetts: run "xkill" at command line and click on the window
[11:24] <Bassetts> thanks
[11:24] <BearPerson> Stormx2, check if your mv supports the -T option
[11:24] <Bassetts> :)
[11:25] <axs221>  /msg nickserv set hide email on
[11:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Fata1 I need to change the docs in that script to say restart...
[11:25] <Stormx2> dooglus: Right, that worked well.
[11:25] <Stormx2> Thank god that is over
[11:25] <Stormx2> I swear if i had lost that data :P
[11:25] <Stormx2> I'd have to recover it
[11:25] <Stormx2> and that'd be a bummer
[11:25] <Stormx2> :P
[11:26] <kristian> hatred, you here?
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Stormx2: why not put it on another partition
[11:26] <Milktea> What's the bash command similar to Dos's ipconfig
[11:26] <Fata1> well shit, you were right.
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Gee
[11:27] <CrippsFX> Milktea, ifconfig  ?
[11:27] <snoops> anyone familar with xmodmap?
[11:27] <kbrooks> Milktea: ifconfig, but ifconfig has more (as u can CONFIGure InterFaces)
[11:27] <yome> Hi all.  What would be an easy way to install ubuntu on a cdrom-less laptop?
[11:27] <Jack_Sparrow> Fata1: glad to help
[11:27] <Fata1> maybe you should have the author change the wording that says you don't have to reboot :P
[11:27] <mwe> snoops: somewhat
[11:27] <penguin42> yome: USB CDROM if you can borrow one
[11:27] <dooglus> Stormx2: if the parent has a non-empty directory with the same name as something you're moving, you'll see an error: "mv: cannot move `foo' to a subdirectory of itself, `./foo'"
[11:27] <Milktea> thanks
[11:27] <yome> penguin42, I might buy one if it's really needed.  Do I have any other option?
[11:28] <snoops> is it possible with xmodmap to map the a different button to the function of another key mwe?
[11:28] <yome> From a USB key, say?
[11:28] <CrippsFX> alright ... bedtime.
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gnight
[11:28] <askyle> yome:  DSL on a disk on key?
[11:28] <kristian> Flannel, you here ?
[11:28] <askyle> gnight
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> flash drive
[11:28] <snoops> like.. I have a tilt left on my scroll wheel.. I'm wanting to map it to be middle mouse button
[11:28] <yome> askyle, DSL as in Damn Small Linux?
[11:28] <askyle> yome: yep
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> yome: flashdrive
[11:28] <mwe> snoops: you can't map mouse buttons with xmodmap
[11:28] <userone> I need to view a MS publisher file..I have searched for solutions but there dont seem to be any..I have tried Scribus and almost every import option available in Open Office. Is there a good 'converter' app for Ubuntu?
[11:28] <yome> OK.  Which image do I need to put on a flash drive?
[11:29] <skavenge> the laptops gotta be able to boot off the device though as well
[11:29] <penguin42> (Can Ubuntu live CDs PXE boot other machines like Knoppix can?)
[11:29] <yome> The normal image?
[11:29] <askyle> 1 sec, checking....
[11:29] <mwe> snoops: I found a program that does it once but I forgot the name. sorry
[11:29] <snoops> mwe err but umm umm yes
[11:29] <snoops> if I type in this
[11:30] <yome> Has anybody here installed Ubuntu with success on a Thinkpad X60s by any chance?
[11:30] <mwe> snoops: xmouse something IIRC
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Yome, I would think so.. But not sure how that image would go...
[11:30] <Minsc> Hello
[11:30] <yome> Jack_Sparrow, OK, I'll look into it.  Thanks.
[11:30] <snoops> xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3...right up to 20" it'll assign the buttons correctly
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[11:30] <snoops> if I change the 1 2 3 around, it'll trigger different buttons
[11:30] <yome> Last question: Ubuntu should be easier to install than most other distro on a recent laptop, right?
[11:31] <snoops> but I can't put the same number twice..
[11:31] <Fata1> does ubuntu play mp3s in stock form?
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> yome: I think it would be a good choice
[11:31] <snoops> nope Fata1
[11:31] <skavenge> ubuntu is probably the easiest to install, period.
[11:31] <mwe> snoops: what I meant was you cannot map a keyboard key to act as a mouse button
[11:31] <userone> I tried GIMP too....that doesnt do it...
[11:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fata !restricted
[11:31] <askyle> yome: the DSL faq says  there's an option to install DSL to a pendrive from the livecd
[11:31] <snoops> !restricted > Fata1
[11:31] <mwe> snoops: with xmodmap
[11:31] <snoops> mwe oh right, well you can use xvkdb for that
[11:31] <askyle> skavenge: that kind of contradicts the experience i had today
[11:32] <yome> I guess hardware support is more important than ease of installation for me.  Does Ubuntu still wins there?
[11:32] <skavenge> ive got a year old dell laptop and everything worked out of box except wireless
[11:32] <yome> askyle, OK, so then I'd go from DSL to Ubuntu?
[11:32] <penguin42> yome: Reasonably good
[11:32] <skavenge> askyle: yeah from what i hear in the channel i got lucky
[11:32] <stefg> !hardware
[11:32] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:33] <askyle> yome: more or less : )
[11:33] <mwe> snoops: I see
[11:33] <snoops> but yeah my issue mwe is I can't type in say xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 3 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20"
[11:33] <Minsc> Any ubuntu experts want to give me a hand? I've got a devil of a problem
[11:33] <Milktea> Is shift+p some kind of hotkey
[11:33] <Milktea> I can't type capital p
[11:33] <userone> any ideas on the MS publisher view/conversion?
[11:33] <snoops> because 3 is in there twice.. but umm that's what I'm after
[11:33] <mwe> snoops: oh
[11:33] <penguin42> Minsc: Just ask - someone will try and help
[11:33] <bbrazil> mwe: use capslock?
[11:33] <yome> OK, thanks for answering my questions.  I'll be back when it doesn't work ;)
[11:33] <bbrazil> Milktea: ^
[11:33] <askyle> skavenge: i had absolutely no luck getting dapper into my gf's box
[11:34] <askyle> STFW'd a lot, mind you... all i found were "check your media" suggestions
[11:34] <snoops> but xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20" is absolutely fine.. I can't use the same number twice basically
[11:34] <mwe> bbrazil: huh?
[11:34] <Minsc> penguin: Alrighty. I've got the infinite sound loop problem. Whenever a sound is played, the first half second of it loops forever, and everything else stalls. The strangest part is that this only occurs in my installed ubuntu, but the live cd works fine.
[11:34] <skavenge> askyle: i see alot of people getting stuck with dapper, especially on dual boots .. i did a fresh install of ubuntu on this laptop and it was smooth
[11:34] <bbrazil> mwe: bad tab completion
[11:34] <askyle> milktea: does it happen on every application or only on some?
[11:34] <askyle> yome: good luck : )
[11:35] <Bassetts> why does text seem to be so small in firefox and ubuntu??
[11:35] <askyle> (oops, "latency" ; ) )
[11:35] <Bassetts> its alot smaller than in win at same res
[11:35] <userone> somebody must at least have an idea I can try for viewing/converting MS publisher files?
[11:35] <penguin42> Bassetts: At a guess because either the font size defaults are differnt or because ubuntu is reading your display size (wrongly?)
[11:35] <userone> I tired everyhthing I know (which may not be alot, I agree!! lol)
[11:36] <askyle> skavenge: no dualboot here.... we just wanted to do away with windows : )
[11:36] <stefg> It'sthe xservers -dpi setting
[11:36] <Bassetts> stefg: penguin42: any wiki pages on it?
[11:36] <skavenge> askyle: well thats good at least, same here .. ran into a windows problem, found my cd but not the case (which the key is on) so i dumped it for ubuntu heh
[11:36] <axs221> Bassetts: try opening up System > Preferences > Fonts > Details and changing the DPI resolution there
[11:36] <snoops> anyway idea mwe?
[11:37] <axs221> if you're in gnome that is
[11:37] <mwe> snoops: no not really. sorry
[11:37] <faki3> where are the dapper backports?
[11:37] <Bassetts> axs221: whats a good dpi for 1280x1024@70Hz
[11:37] <askyle> skavenge: heh : ) and before i went to her place i said myself "should i take the breezy cd too? naaaaah"
[11:37] <Fata1> im not finding this universe repository
[11:38] <penguin42> Bassetts: Depends on your physical monitor size
[11:38] <userone> ok..does anyone know ANY good general file converters for Ubuntu?
[11:38] <askyle> userone: what kind of files?
[11:38] <penguin42> Bassetts: Between 75 and 100dpi is normal
[11:38] <axs221> Bassetts: If you open that up in Gnome, it will dynamically change the DPI as you scroll the numbers, just click the up arrow until it looks the right size for you
[11:38] <userone> askyle: MS Publisher
[11:38] <Minsc> So I guess no one can offer any help, huh
[11:38] <saxin> Fatal1, /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <stefg> !ask
[11:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:39] <skavenge> askyle: which may not have been much better of you were planning to update, ive seen alot of snafu's in here the last few days with updating to dapper from breezy as well .. but that may be user error and have nothing to do with ubuntu either heh
[11:39] <faki3> !ask
[11:39] <penguin42> axs221: Hmm, is that supposed to match the value reported by xdpyinfo ?
[11:39] <mwe> snoops: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're trying to achieve
[11:39] <Minsc> ubotu: If that was directed at me, I already did. ;)
[11:39] <ubotu> I know nothing about If that was directed at me, I already did. ;)
[11:39] <askyle> userone: no idea, sorry : (   (wow, it's been ages since i've heard of publisher... only decent MS app ever)
[11:39] <Minsc> Er.
[11:39] <kb1ibt> what is the easiest way to get cairo 1.2.0 running on my dapper since it isn't in apt-get yet
[11:40] <Sanne> userone, I'd be glad to help, but I never used MS Publisher. No idea what kind of files they are, but MS is known for their incompatible file formats.
[11:40] <eobanb> userone, perhaps it'll open with openoffice, or abiword?
[11:40] <userone> askyle: thanks anyway..any ideas you might have would be useful
[11:40] <userone> sanne: thanks..any ideas you might have would be useful
[11:41] <userone> eobanb: I tried almost all options in Open Office
[11:41] <askyle> skavenge: my own update worked well.. not flawlessly, but well : )   -- the point was, her poor box couldn't handle the demand of loading a whole OS while installing an OS.
[11:41] <eobanb> userone, maybe Scribus?
[11:41] <axs221> penguin42: It doesn't seem like it, mine is 75x75 on xdpyinfo and 94 dpi on the font preferences
[11:42] <userone> eobanb: I tried scribus too...
[11:42] <Sanne> userone, I doubt it's useful, but ask MS for a format converter... (not really, but still...)
[11:42] <penguin42> ax221: Ditto, 75 on xdpy and 96 on font pref
[11:42] <userone> sanne: I even tried that!! There are no free viewers for MS Publisher files, not even from MS!!
[11:42] <faki3> http://www.scribus.net/
[11:43] <Cainus> hey can anyone tell me how to being troubleshooting my "no sound" problem?  I know all the hardware is good because this used to be a win32 box and the sound worked then...
[11:43] <userone> sanne: and the only file converters require Windows..
[11:43] <Cainus> er being = begin :)
[11:43] <userone> there *must* be a good general file coverter app for Linux/Ubuntu?
[11:43] <Sanne> userone, I suspected that, but kudos for trying with MS! :)
[11:44] <kb1ibt> Cainus: first run lshw and see if the card is recognized
[11:44] <boricua> how do i get xgl supoprt in dapper? i just install compiz compiz gnome and xgl xserver what else
[11:44] <stefg> !xgl
[11:44] <eobanb> userone, how do you figure that there could be something like a 'general file converter'
[11:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:44] <eobanb> userone, file formats tend to be very specific in design
[11:44] <Cainus> kblibt: yes it is
[11:44] <penguin42> userone: Well for images there is a program called 'convert' part of imagemagick
[11:44] <Sanne> userone, there's no such thing as a general file converter. It depends on the type of files, each one may be different (and in case of MS files, they certainly are).
[11:44] <axs221> I'm having trouble with my mouse cursor, whenever I hover my cursor over some objects it will disappear. These are always clickable objects, although the pointer cursor does work sometimes on other things. Eg hovering over flash or over the Customize Toolbar icons in Firefox. Any suggestions?
[11:44] <paddedwall> anyone got ubuntu installed on an ASRock 939 dual sata2 motherboard?
[11:45] <faki3> View Publisher 2002 Files Without Publisher http://www.microsoft.com/office/previous/xp/columns/column16.asp
[11:45] <userone> eobanb: file conversion just seems to me a basic need for a computer user, or maybe things have changed!
[11:45] <kb1ibt> Cainus: does it show DISABLED after it or is the module loaded?
[11:45] <eobanb> axs221, as far as i know, flash files can opt to make the cursor disappear ('it's a feature, not a bug')
[11:45] <Sanne> paddedwall, I'm planning to buy one, and I researched the forums. I think there were people who got it working fine, sec.
[11:45] <paddedwall> i'm not having any luck at all
[11:45] <eobanb> userone, i'm afraid that in this case you're going to have to ask for the file again in a different format
[11:46] <dagrump_> boricua: try #xgk-ubuntu :) if any 1 is awake
[11:46] <bimberi> userone: yes it is, it just appears that handling the Microsoft Publisher format is not something that someone has written for linux
[11:46] <Cainus> kblibt: no mention of disabled... though I do seem to have two multimedia audio controllers
[11:46] <eobanb> dafart, you mean #ubuntu-xgl
[11:46] <paddedwall> i tried Drake, but it hangs at "Loading hardware drivers..."
[11:46] <eobanb> er, dagrump_
[11:46] <axs221> eobanb: what about the firefox buttons? it happens other places in the window manager too
[11:46] <paddedwall> Then, I tried 5.10, and it won't even finish the install
[11:46] <userone> we use file converters in CAD all the time..maybe thats a specialist industry?
[11:46] <eigenlambda> how to set up new latex .sty?
[11:46] <eigenlambda> i need to use gb4e
[11:47] <penguin42> userone: What file formats?
[11:47] <eobanb> penguin42, he's trying to open an MS Publisher file
[11:47] <Sanne> paddedwall, that doesn't sound good... maybe I should reconsider. Did you try the alternate dapper install cd? Might give better results.
[11:47] <Milktea> Where is Firefox normally installed to?
[11:47] <penguin42> eobanb: Ah.....
[11:47] <eobanb> Milktea, uh, /usr/bin/ ?
[11:47] <paddedwall> the "alternate" cd?
[11:47] <stefg> axs221: did you install any themes from a third-paty site like art.gnome.org or gnomelook ?
[11:47] <userone> bimberi: thanks...I suspected that..but anybody have any ideas for a 'quick and dirty' solution? I just need to view the file
[11:47] <Milktea> okay thanks
[11:47] <eigenlambda> ne1 know how use tex .sty downloaded from web?
[11:48] <eigenlambda> is there ctan command anywhere?
[11:48] <paddedwall> i feel like I'm back in the 80's
[11:48] <dagrump_> eobband: oldfart yeah so what
[11:48] <axs221> stefg: nope, the only theme i've installed so far on this machine was on KDE, i'm using Gnome right now with the default cursor
[11:48] <Sanne> paddedwall (please type my name so I get notified when you reply). The cd with the text installer, called alternate, not the live cd.
[11:48] <eigenlambda> you were alive in 80s?
[11:48] <bimberi> userone: apart from getting someone who has publisher to save it in another format, no sorry :/
[11:48] <axs221> stefg: the other cursors do the same thing
[11:48] <userone> penguin42: MS Publisher file format
[11:48] <kb1ibt> Cainus: not sure exactly then but maybe it is being sent to the wrong controller, is one built-in the MoBo and the other an expansion card?
[11:49] <stefg> hmm.. thought it could ahve been a gtk-engine problem, but that is unlikely with the defult theme
[11:49] <paddedwall> sanne nope, but I don't think it'll matter. The live cd booted to it's desktop (note that it succeeded in "loading hardware drivers to get to the desktop), but after installing, it hung up
[11:50] <ompaul> hmm
[11:50] <Cainus> kblibt: I'm thinking you might be right... is there a way to see what apps are using sound?  xmms is telling me some other app is using it now...
[11:50] <eigenlambda> ya chanserv goes crayz soometimes
[11:50] <eobanb> paddedwall, perhaps try the 6.06 alternate disc?
[11:51] <Sanne> paddedwall, I would try it, before giving up on it, but I'm also not sure if it helps.
[11:51] <stefg> Wasn't there a distinction between hardware- and software-cursors in the xorg-conf? Never touched that but could be a hint
[11:51] <kb1ibt> Cainus: sorry that is something that i don't have a clue on
[11:51] <kimo> why is mplayer video bad when using XV, but ok, with X11 ?
[11:51] <snoops> mwe hmm well at the moment i just switched them.. so middle click(originally sending key 2) sends key 6, and side scroll left(originally key 6) sends key 2
[11:51] <Cainus> kblibt: k thanks... I think I might be close... I just don't want to reboot to free that up :)
[11:52] <Bjoern-Erik> Is it possible to use SHA-1 for the password-hashes instead of MD5?
[11:52] <eobanb> kimo, 'XV'?
[11:52] <penguin42> kimo: Typically a bug in the Xv part of your video cards driver
[11:52] <paddedwall> sanne i'm kinda bored with downloading distros, but I guess i'll give this a try (i thought this kind of crap was solved years ago with Linux)
[11:52] <Cainus> anyone know how to find what app is using sound so I can kill it?
[11:52] <kimo> hmm ... it's i915
[11:52] <eobanb> paddedwall, i'll ask again, have you tried the alternate install disc?
[11:52] <penguin42> Cainus: lsof /dev/audio or /dev/dsp  sometimes does it
[11:53] <skavenge> i've got a question, at random times while X is running all my videos regardless of format all wash out .. a restart of X fixes it but its rather annoying, im using totem with the gstreamer backend, used xine as well and it does the same thing .. anyone know how to fix this or at least reset without restarting X?
[11:53] <userone> what about netpbm for file conversion?
[11:53] <userone> let me try...
[11:53] <paddedwall> eobanb I'll say it again, the install went fine - it hangs when I try to boot from the hd
[11:53] <Sanne> paddedwall, if and when linux drivers are available depends largely on the cooperation of hardware vendors, it will be never 'solved' as long as there's new hardware.
[11:53] <penguin42> userone: It will do image files to and from pbm format
[11:53] <eobanb> paddedwall, so both the desktop and the alternate discs produced the same result?
[11:53] <rioch> Hi all, I installed the nvidia drivers but it wouldnt pick up my laptop display correctly. Any suggestions on how to correct it?
[11:53] <Cainus> penguin42: thanks...that worked :)
[11:54] <kb1ibt> what is the easiest way to get cairo 1.2.0 running on my dapper since it isn't in a repository yet
[11:54] <kimo> skavenge: maybe choose a different output driver (X11/shm) works ok here
[11:54] <mwe> snoops: I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're trying to acheive
[11:54] <Jack_Sparrow> paddedwall:  Are you dual booting
[11:54] <paddedwall> sanne that's a cop-out - theis very same motherboard allows me to install Windows 2000 without any problems - that OS is 5 years older than the motherboard - Linux should be able to do the same thing
[11:54] <skavenge> kimo; hm havent looked into that ill check it out
[11:54] <eternaljoy> im using xchat 2.6.4. How do I ignore a person using this xchat version?
[11:54] <paddedwall> jack_sparrow nope - brand new 200gb hard drive with nothing but linux on it
[11:55] <eternaljoy> im using xchat 2.6.4. but in older versions I could right click on nicks and chose ignore! How do I ignore a person using this xchat version?
[11:55] <eobanb> paddedwall, i'll ask AGAIN, did the desktop and the alternate discs produce the same result?
[11:55] <skavenge> eternaljoy: try  /ignore nick
[11:55] <eternaljoy> skavenge: doesnt work
[11:55] <skavenge> hm wierd
[11:55] <eternaljoy> skavenge: why doesnt right click work as in older xchat versions?
[11:56] <skavenge> i couldnt say, i dont use xchat .. i figured /ignore was a pretty standard command though, obviously not
[11:56] <mwe> eternaljoy: /ignore buthead wors here
[11:56] <Sanne> paddedwall, hardware vendors write drivers for windows. They mostly don't do that for Linux. People have to program them in their free time, sometimes playing hide and seek with the hardware vendors when trying to guess the specifications some vendors won't release. It's a bit unfair to compare Linux and Windows in this regard.
[11:56] <paddedwall> eobanb freakin no dude - I'm downloading it now, but an alternate install will install the same freakin thing, right?
[11:56] <Jack_Sparrow> padded, is it sata?
[11:56] <paddedwall> just without the retty graphic front end
[11:56] <paddedwall> yes
[11:57] <penguin42> Sanne: Unfortunately from a user view that doesn't help
[11:57] <eobanb> paddedwall, it could have something to do with an error in the install process which could be specific to the desktop CD, so PLEASE, instead of trolling, just try the other CD...don't really know what else you expect us to do
[11:57] <Gullstad> !traceroute
[11:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about traceroute
[11:57] <Sanne> penguin42, you're right, but it helps understanding why things are the way they are, and maybe stop demanding unreasonable things.
[11:57] <paddedwall> jack_sparrow, it's an Asrock 939 dual sata2 and I'm using the onboard sound and NIC, a couple of sata drives, but no raid
[11:57] <roostishaw> if i've got some c source code, how do i compile it? gcc -o endprogram source.c ?
[11:57] <Gullstad> Whats the bash command for traceroute?
[11:57] <userone> penguin24: I just installed netpbm and a2ps (yes, I'm getting desperate!)..but how do I get them to work using terminal..
[11:58] <skavenge> Sanne: i agree
[11:58] <askyleX> what's exactly the diff between alternate and desktop ?
[11:58] <kimo> Cairo 1.2 is out :) hurraaayy , since i live in cairo, gotta get this one fast :)
[11:58] <Jack_Sparrow> paddedwall: do you have a cmos/bios option to treat those sata as ide?
[11:58] <eobanb> askyle, the desktop boots a liveCD and has a graphical installer.
[11:58] <skavenge> too many are asking to be spoonfed for free not realizing what windows costs vs linux
[11:58] <kb1ibt> kimo: i was asking about that earlier
[11:58] <kb1ibt> kimo: i need it for WebKit
[11:58] <stefg> !download
[11:58] <penguin42> userone: They aren't going to let you read an MS Publisher file
[11:58] <ubotu> Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[11:59] <paddedwall> jack_sparrow - don't know
[11:59] <askyleX> eobanb: i noticed that while i failed dismally to install dapper on my gf's box -- what does the alternate do?
[11:59] <eobanb> askyle, the alternate uses the legacy debian installer
[11:59] <Gullstad> Whats the bash command for traceroute?
[11:59] <penguin42> askyleX: Where did it break?
[11:59] <userone> penguin42: ok...what if I could convert the format into something I can read..any ideas?
[11:59] <Sanne> skavenge, exactly
[11:59] <eobanb> Gullstad, bash has no inbuilt traceroute, you'll have to install traceroute
[11:59] <kb1ibt> Gullstad: u probably don't have it installed
[12:00] <kimo> Gullstad: try tracepath
[12:00] <eobanb> !info traceroute
[12:00] <ubotu> traceroute: traces the route taken by packets over a TCP/IP network. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.4a12-20 (dapper), package size 21 kB, installed size 104 kB
[12:00] <penguin42> userone: Linux won't be able to do that convert; if you can convert it into an MS Word/Powerpoint file then you can edit it in Open Office, if you can expor tit as PDF you can display it in various packages
[12:00] <eobanb> ^-- there you go, Gullstad
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> paddedwall:  My bios has two options for the sata, I would vheck the next time you reboot.