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[03:51] <bddebian> Heya
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[07:00] <lecaros> !ping
[07:00] <ubotu> pong
[07:01] <mhz> lecaros: ?
[07:01] <mhz> whazup?
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[03:40] <bddebian> Heya
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[04:17] <DanielC> It's quiet today...
[04:18] <DanielC> There isn't a football match right now, is there?
[04:25] <juliux> hi DanielC 
[04:25] <juliux> DanielC, no football today
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[04:26] <DanielC> juliux: Who's your favourite team?
[04:26] <juliux> DanielC, germany
[04:26] <DanielC> :)
[04:26] <juliux> DanielC, england is out, sorry
[04:27] <DanielC> Germany is doing well I hear.
[04:27] <DanielC> Yeah, I saw the game yesterday (not that I like football anyways).
[04:27] <juliux> that will be a funny monday in the office 
[04:27] <DanielC> :)
[04:27] <juliux> everybody was saying that german will be get out
[04:27] <juliux> but now england is out
[04:27] <DanielC> Bring a German flag ;-)
[04:27] <juliux> i will try to buy one 
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[05:58] <boricua> good moorning i want to try edubuntu on a mac-intel  which iso do i need?
[05:59] <Yagisan> IIRC it doesn't work on mactels yet
[06:00] <boricua> i am asking for edubuntu not iirc
[06:00] <Yagisan> at least, not as a standalone or server
[06:00] <Yagisan> boricua: iirc = If I recall correctly
[06:00] <boricua> the edubuntu download page shows For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks.
[06:00] <Yagisan> should work as a client if it supports net-boot
[06:00] <boricua> iirc ok i learn now what is iirc
[06:01] <boricua> :-)
[06:01] <Yagisan> yes, none of those is a mactel
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[06:01] <boricua> i see  so the anwser is not YETTTTTT
[06:01] <Yagisan> basically, yes
[06:01] <boricua> MMM THE PC intel wont do either?
[06:02] <Yagisan> boricua: mactels use a different way to boot. they use EFI, while normal pc's use a BIOS.
[06:03] <Yagisan> the cd's won't start on a mactel
[06:07] <boricua> Yagisan: on the g4 the iso cd should boot fine though?????
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[06:09] <Yagisan> boricua: might start. don't think it will work though
[06:09] <boricua> i am saying the iso for mac will work on the g4?  
[06:11] <boricua> Yagisan, this link is the iso for the g4 ibook? Mac (PowerPC) desktop CD
[06:11] <boricua>     For Apple Macintosh G3, G4, and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks.
[06:11] <boricua> not the mactell but a g4 ibook????
[06:12] <Yagisan> yes, on a g4 it will work
[06:32] <boricua> ok downloading 
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[09:55] <boricua> this iso will not boot my g4 ibook any idea edubuntu-6.06-live-powerpc.iso
[09:55] <DanielC> what's the error?
[09:56] <boricua> i am not even sure if the boot order on the ibook has cd first its my sons ibook and i want to try to put edubuntu on it
[09:56] <boricua> DanielC, no error just boots from HD
[09:56] <DanielC> ah
[09:56] <DanielC> check the bios.
[09:56] <DanielC> it's probably set to boot from the hard disk first.
[09:56] <boricua> DanielC, how do i chk the bios on ibook?
[09:56] <crimsun> I don't think ibooks have bioses.
[09:57] <boricua> i know the mac cd will boot when its in there
[09:57] <DanielC> I've never used an ibook but on other machines you get a message of the sort "press F2 for setup" before it starts the operating system.
[09:57] <DanielC> crimsun: How is it possible for a computer to not have a bios?
[09:57] <crimsun> there's efi
[09:57] <DanielC> what's efi?
[09:57] <crimsun> essentially a bios implemented differently
[09:57] <boricua> first my q? how do i get the ibook to boot the edubuntu cd iso
[09:58] <DanielC> crimsun: then it's a bios.
[09:59] <DanielC> boricua: When you power on, do you see any message like "Press F2 to go to Setup" ?
[09:59] <boricua> no
[09:59] <boricua> all i see is an apple
[10:00] <crimsun> DanielC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Firmware_Interface
[10:00] <DanielC> I found something on Google but I can't make sense of the instructions:
[10:00] <DanielC> http://www.computing.net/mac/wwwboard/forum/11478.html
[10:00] <boricua> i just ran into this let me try it http://seb.france.free.fr/linux/ibookG4/iBookG4-howto-2.html#ss2.2
[10:01] <crimsun> DanielC: you can argue with its engineers whether it's bios or not
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[10:01] <DanielC> It quacks like a duck...
[10:01] <donpaolo> Hi guys! What is the /usplash_fifo archive I have in my edubuntu dapper install? thank you!
[10:02] <crimsun> donpaolo: it's used for the usplash progress indicator
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[10:06] <donpaolo> but $ ls -l /u*
[10:06] <donpaolo> prw-r-----  1 root root    0 2006-06-02 11:40 /usplash_fifo it doesn't seem a normal file. What is it?
[10:07] <crimsun> it's a pipe
[10:07] <crimsun> < crimsun> donpaolo: it's used for the usplash progress indicator
[10:07] <donpaolo> crimsun, but can I delete it?
[10:09] <crimsun> donpaolo: don't touch it unless you know what it does.
[10:09] <donpaolo> crimsun, ok, thank you
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[10:25] <boricua> hitting the letter C while booting did the trick  i did see some errors but it is loading as i type i will report later on progress
[10:26] <DanielC> glad it workd
[10:26] <DanielC> worked
[10:26] <boricua> i believe now days linux has more softare for kids that even mac,
[10:26] <DanielC> :-)
[10:26] <boricua> still loading i have my fingers crossed
[10:27] <boricua> so far lots of ok  and 2 errors still loading :-)  i feel like a kid right now
[10:27] <DanielC> :-)
[10:27] <DanielC> Should work alright.
[10:28] <DanielC> Have you used Ubuntu before?
[10:28] <boricua> yes i have 1 ubuntu server and 1 ubuntu desktop on my laptop
[10:29] <boricua> waooooo   edubuntu on a ibook g4 looks nice if you want a screen shot let me know :-)
[10:29] <DanielC> Does it look different from a PC?
[10:30] <boricua> mouse much much slower so far looks the same :-)
[10:30] <DanielC> ok
[10:30] <boricua> network not working so far brb
[10:30] <DanielC> System > Preferences > Mouse to adjust the mouse speed.
[10:35] <boricua> DanielC, so far mouse still slow after adjusting it
[10:35] <DanielC> ok
[10:36] <boricua> wireless wont go up
[10:39] <boricua> well ill play with it later thxs for the help  
[10:39] <DanielC> take care
[10:55] <lucasvo> boricua: wireless won't work out of the box because the drivers are proprietary
[10:55] <lucasvo> you need to set it up manually
[10:56] <lucasvo> boricua: ask in #ubuntu for help
[11:01] <lucasvo> boricua: maybe reading this will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=189329&highlight=airport+express
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[11:17] <boricua> lucasvo:i see thxs
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