[12:09] <danimo> \sh_away: ping?
[12:37] <nixternal> DaSkreech: don't run from the channel..get back there and help me..im swamped ;)
[01:19] <DaSkreech> Nope Libcairo breaks the machine
[01:19] <nixternal> hehe
[01:22] <nixternal> my lord
[01:22] <nixternal> how many times did i say it to him?  and he kept going at you
[01:22] <nixternal> lol
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Yeah people get like that in big irc rooms I guess
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Or very small
[01:23] <DaSkreech> :-/
[01:31] <nixternal> who runs ubotu?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Man small minded people really need a better vocabulary
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Seveas
[01:31] <nixternal> as it seems they are making fun of him in the pub as he can't spell
[01:31] <nixternal> haha
[01:34] <abattoir> nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:36] <nixternal> you shouldn't have really showed me that ;)
[01:36] <nixternal> ubotu: tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you
[01:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you
[01:36] <nixternal> arg
[01:36] <nixternal> ubotu, tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you
[01:36] <abattoir> !language
[01:36] <ubotu> Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <nixternal> lol
[01:37] <abattoir> !no language is Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:37] <abattoir> [05:07:22]  <ubotu> Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail
[01:37] <abattoir> :)
[01:38] <nixternal> although, i probably didn't need to have it msg him, as he will see all the red nick highlights
[01:38] <DaSkreech> Who Seveas ?
[01:38] <nixternal> haha
[01:38] <nixternal> ya
[02:05] <DaSkreech> -hup Daskreech
[03:51] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:51] <DaSkreech> bddebian: Hi
[03:52] <bddebian> Hello DaSkreech
[05:01] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[05:16] <Hobbsee> hi all
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hi!!
[05:17] <nixternal> [22:01]  <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech :)
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hi nixternal 
[05:17] <nixternal> you didn't hop on right away ;)
[05:17] <DaSkreech> nixternal: Cheater
[05:17] <nixternal> hahaha
[05:17] <Hobbsee> hehehe
[05:17] <nixternal> im building konversation .20 from svn right now
[05:17] <Hobbsee> yeah i'm fixing my machine
[05:17] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ah fun.  how close is it to release?
[05:17] <DaSkreech> Whats in .20?
[05:18] <nixternal> it doesn't seem like it is that far off from the changelog
[05:18] <Hobbsee> nice
[05:18] <nixternal> i heard the taskbar can be set to tree format
[05:18] <Hobbsee> we cant take that from SVN for edgy we need to wait till release
[05:18] <nixternal> which i hope..otherwise im ditching konversation
[05:18] <DaSkreech> And going with X-chat?
[05:19] <Hobbsee> bleck.  xchat is nice in some ways but the other ways really annoy me.
[05:19] <nixternal> irssi
[05:19] <Hobbsee> irssi at the moment usually konversation
[05:19] <nixternal> i played with xchat tonight and it is god awful ugly
[05:21] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:27] <DaSkreech> Defense: But it's pretty!
[05:36] <DaSkreech> So whats in the .20?
[05:36] <nixternal> nothing good from the looks of it
[05:36] <nixternal> doesn't look any different to me
[05:37] <nixternal> bah...
[05:38] <nixternal> im almost going to just run mIRC in wine ;)
[05:43] <Hobbsee> heh
[05:44] <Hobbsee> oh man this thing is *still* upgrading!
[05:45] <DaSkreech> edgy?
[05:46] <Hobbsee> no
[05:46] <Hobbsee> dapper
[05:46] <Hobbsee> seeing as it formatted / last night
[05:46] <Hobbsee> when i tried to remove edgy and just install GRUB.
[05:46] <Hobbsee> it decided to format /, did it uncleanly, so had to be redone again, etc
[05:50] <nixternal> anyone try kvirc?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nixa while ago
[05:53] <Hobbsee> nixternal: a while ago
[05:56] <nixternal> it is kind of ugly ;)
[05:56] <nixternal> im going to try it though..it does my window list/tree view
[05:56] <richj> so i don't make my other screen blink all the time
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Bye Hobbler 
[06:33] <nixternal> i see you
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hi again all
[06:33] <Hobbsee> hey nixternal :P  i see you too
[06:33] <nixternal> gahaha
[06:33] <nixternal> hiya Hobbsee
[06:34] <nixternal> i was makin' fun of imbrandon on that one
[06:34] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:52] <DaSkreech> Bed time
[07:10] <imbrandon> heh
[07:10] <nixternal> ice cream time!!!
[08:00] <Hobbsee> \sh_away: ping?
[09:05] <danimo> Hobbsee: I tried that a while ago, seems \sh really means it this time
[09:05] <Hobbsee> danimo: hehe okay then
[09:05] <danimo> moin Hobbsee btw
[09:06] <Hobbsee> hi
[10:41] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:42] <Hobbsee> dont do that :P
[10:42] <imbrandon> heh
[10:42] <imbrandon> got everything setup but my edgy chroot and email but i'll do that tomarrow ;)
[10:42] <Hobbsee> nice :)
[10:43] <crimsun> Hobbsee: you should scream op abuse.
[10:43] <imbrandon> even got my osx booting inside a "window" in dapper from the other partition LOL
[10:43] <imbrandon> with mac-oon-linux
[10:43] <imbrandon> s/oon/on
[10:43] <Hobbsee> crimsun: heh, i could boot him if i wanted.
[10:43] <imbrandon> lol @ crimsun
[10:43] <crimsun> nah, just say he has a history of oppressing you
[10:44] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:44] <imbrandon> ouch
[10:44] <crimsun> like that cyorxamp person
[10:44] <imbrandon> hehe
[10:45] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:45] <Hobbsee> :P
[10:45] <imbrandon> ouch
[10:45] <crimsun> help help I'm being oppressed
[10:46] <imbrandon>  /kick crimsun
[10:46] <Hobbsee> hehe
[10:46] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:46] <imbrandon> that was kinda funny earlier crimsun too bad Sev*eas wasent arround
[10:47] <imbrandon> i'm sure he would have given him a what for chewing
[10:47] <imbrandon> ;)
[10:54] <Hobbsee> !logs
[10:54] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[12:50] <verwilst_> firefox doesn't play sound sometimes..
[12:50] <verwilst_> any idea how to fix it?
[12:50] <verwilst_> which FIREFOX_DSP i have to use?
[12:52] <uniq> try #kubuntu
[01:08] <verwilst_> found it
[01:08] <verwilst_> ;)
[01:08] <uniq> :)
[01:09] <verwilst_> alsa-oss to the rescue ;)
[01:09] <Hobbsee> hi all
[01:09] <verwilst_> firefox has some annoying issues
[01:09] <verwilst_> when used under kde
[01:09] <verwilst_> the sound is one thing
[01:09] <verwilst_> when you download a movie for example
[01:09] <verwilst_> and it plays
[01:09] <verwilst_> and you then click on the item again in the download box, nothing happens
[01:10] <verwilst_> you have to reclick the link to download it
[03:39] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:40] <Hobbsee> hi bddebian 
[03:40] <bddebian> Hi Hobbsee
[03:51] <abattoir_> Riddell: hello :)
[03:52] <abattoir_> Riddell: can you please ask Kamion about the oem-installer backend, for me?
[03:52] <abattoir_> Riddell: I have mailed him, msg ed him on IRC and have even PM'ed him... no response at all.
[03:52] <abattoir_> :(
[03:53] <Hobbsee> abattoir_: FYI, it *is* a sunday.
[03:53] <abattoir_> Hobbsee: i meant over a few weeks :(
[03:54] <abattoir_> I was patient knowing how busy he is
[03:54] <abattoir_> Riddell: btw, I have also created a rough UI similar to Ubiquity
[03:54] <\sh> abattoir_: hmmm, first there was UDS Paris, and I think he has some time off now
[03:54] <Riddell> abattoir_: I would just start porting if I  was you
[03:55] <abattoir_> It is still rough, i have to implement stuff like the World Map for time zone
[03:55] <Hobbsee> oh hi Riddell!
[03:55] <Riddell> abattoir_: you can just copy my code from ubiquity
[03:55] <Riddell> which is just a copy of kworldmap
[03:55] <abattoir_> Riddell: I have just left the bits which are backend dependent... have kinda done the rest
[03:55] <Hobbsee> Riddell: ubiquity is really nice, from what i saw - i only tried to use the ubuntu one though
[03:56] <abattoir_> Riddell: I'll smoothen the edges, implement the map widget....
[03:56] <Riddell> well, port to pyton not copy
[03:56] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee 
[03:57] <Riddell> Hobbsee: why only ubuntu?
[03:57] <abattoir_> and then base it on the current oem-installer
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: that was what Pia had.
[03:57] <Riddell> abattoir_: yes
[03:57] <Riddell> Hobbsee: bah, she's biased :)
[03:57] <abattoir_> the .templates, .mnu s etc.
[03:57] <Hobbsee> Riddell: hehe, yeah, but she's the second person i've actually met in person - and neither of htem were carrying spiffy kubuntu cds
[03:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: who the heck took off the server install option for the live cd, and what was the rationale behind it???
[03:58] <abattoir_> Riddell: ok thank you :)
[03:58] <Riddell> Hobbsee: a live install just copies the live filesystem, you don't have a choice to not install something
[03:58] <Hobbsee> Riddell: also, kubuntu-desktop for edgy is not installable, due to an amarok dep not being installable - it needs updating.
[03:58] <\sh> Riddell: how can I order kubuntu cds > 10 media?
[03:58] <\sh> Hobbsee: which dep?
[03:59] <Hobbsee> Riddell: true...
[03:59] <Riddell> Hobbsee: I'll be doing all the rest of the updates next week
[03:59] <Riddell> \sh: you can do a special order, there's a link for custom order now
[03:59] <Hobbsee> a b-d:  libtunepimp2-dev --> libtunepimp3-dev
[03:59] <\sh> Riddell: sip4, pyqt3, pykde3 is laying ready on this laptop
[04:00] <Riddell> \sh: you rock
[04:00] <Riddell> Hobbsee: oh good, that means tunepimp got through NEW
[04:00] <\sh> Riddell: would you like to upload or should I wait for tuesday?
[04:00] <Hobbsee> Riddell: i believe so, yes.  
[04:00] <Riddell> \sh: put it on revu and I'll take a look at it when I can
[04:01] <Riddell> which will be tomorrow
[04:01] <\sh> ok..uploading it later to revu
[04:02] <Hobbsee> Riddell: also, that edgy package updates thing, apparently we're supposed to be using MoM for that, and MoM has a more up to date listing
[04:03] <\sh> the problem with mom right now is, that nobody knows who is doing what...I think I have to have a look on grab-merges and adjust it to file bugs in LP
[04:03] <Hobbsee> \sh: true
[04:04] <Hobbsee> everyone's doing what they last changed, arent they?
[04:04] <\sh> problem with that is, "I'm too old, to remember what I did" ;))
[04:04] <Hobbsee> \sh: it's called the search function :P
[04:05] <\sh> I forgot to add "I'm lazy, too" so I would take anything what comes to my fingers...
[04:05] <Hobbsee> haha
[04:06] <Hobbsee> mind you, i'm not going to touch cdbs again - i'm not syncing that!
[04:06] <Riddell> Hobbsee: where does mom have a list of packages?
[04:06] <\sh> Hobbsee: why not? cdbs is very popular ;) 
[04:07] <\sh> http://merges.ubuntu.com/
[04:07] <\sh> http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html
[04:07] <\sh> e.g.
[04:07] <Hobbsee>  /universe.html
[04:07] <Hobbsee> yeah
[04:07] <Hobbsee> ditto restricted, et
[04:07] <Hobbsee> c
[04:07] <Riddell> cdbs is a pain to touch
[04:08] <\sh> Riddell: right...I don't like cdbs very much
[04:08] <\sh> hmm..we could merge grap-merges with lpbugs.py
[04:09] <Hobbsee> \sh: what upload privs do you have at the moment?  none?
[04:09] <\sh> Hobbsee: none
[04:09] <Hobbsee> \sh: yeah, damn
[04:09] <\sh> Hobbsee: I wonder if I can reactivate them on tuesday
[04:10] <\sh> well, I want to spam my inbox again ;)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> 36 merges that i should be doing.  ouch.
[04:10] <Hobbsee> \sh: hehe, nice
[04:10] <\sh> I'm hungry for merges ;)
[04:10] <Hobbsee> \sh: if you do, i'll warn you now - i'll probably be poking you for upload privs :P
[04:11] <Hobbsee> \sh: you and bddebian, and zak*ame and whoever else looks interesting with power.
[04:11] <\sh> Hobbsee: I don't have power :)
[04:11] <Hobbsee> \sh: but you will
[04:11] <Hobbsee> bddebian: rubbish, you can upload
[04:12] <\sh> Hobbsee: but I will speak for you in front of the TB :)
[04:13] <Hobbsee> \sh: thanks :)
[04:13] <Hobbsee> oh nooooooooooooooooooooooo!
[04:14] <Hobbsee> \sh: next TB is at 6am - there's no way in hell i would make that one - and be coherant
[04:15] <Hobbsee> \sh: however, if you could check a package for me, i'd appreciate it.  just give me a bit of time to try it again
[04:16] <Hobbsee> oh, \sh - with kdiff3, you added a couple of b-d's - how do i tell if they're still needed?
[04:16] <\sh> Hobbsee: well, next TB will be 22:00 german time, which is really late for me as well, when I'm not at home...you know, that I'm working the week in karlsruhe..
[04:17] <Hobbsee> 2200.  10pm.  late?  weird.
[04:17] <Hobbsee> true, right
[04:17] <\sh> Hobbsee: lemme check
[04:17] <Hobbsee> \sh: in all seriousness, i *really* dont do mornings well - see logs of the meetings, or whatever
[04:18] <\sh> kdiff3 (0.9.88-5ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low
[04:18] <\sh>   * debian/control: added libacl1-dev and libattr1-dev to build-deps
[04:19] <Hobbsee> \sh: yes
[04:19] <Hobbsee> \sh: the package still seems to build fine with them in
[04:20] <\sh> Hobbsee: I'll check plain debian upstream in the moment...give me some minutes
[04:20] <\sh> I added them because it didn't build without them
[04:20] <Hobbsee> \sh: that'd be cool
[04:20] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[04:20] <\sh> and because we changed something in kdelibs at this time, when I remember correctly
[04:21] <\sh> well more build-deps won't hurt..but less ;) 
[04:21] <Hobbsee> \sh: yeah, true
[04:22] <\sh> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libidn/libidn11_0.5.18-2_i386.deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libidn/libidn11-dev_0.5.18-2_i386.deb
[04:22] <\sh> not found...can't build arg
[04:23] <Hobbsee> :(
[04:23] <Hobbsee> it built a couple of days ago
[04:23] <\sh> well, it's a dep from kdelibs4 or libqt3-mt but it's not in the archives right now
[04:25] <\sh> strange 0.6.3 is in the archives
[04:25] <\sh> lemme update my edgy pbuilder
[04:25] <\sh> could be my problem
[04:26] <\sh> ah ... didn't update for a couple of days ;)
[04:26] <Hobbsee> \sh: that'd do ti :P
[04:27] <\sh> well, it's on my companies laptop...so I didn't care ;)
[04:28] <Hobbsee> hehe nice :)
[04:32] <cmvo> Hobbsee: Hi! Thanks for looking into the screensaver problem (#23743). It happens here in breezy, dapper
[04:32] <Hobbsee> bug 23743
[04:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 23743 in kdeartwork "Screensaver plugins Swarm and Space GL do not start" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/23743
[04:32] <\sh> Hobbsee: request a sync for kdiff3 
[04:32] <Hobbsee> heya cmvo 
[04:32] <Hobbsee> \sh: it can be synced?
[04:32] <cmvo> Hobbsee: and dapper + kde 3.5.3.
[04:32] <Hobbsee> oh yeah....
[04:33] <Hobbsee> \sh: how on earth do i do that?
[04:33] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes
[04:33] <Hobbsee> bug report, and assign to motu reviewers?
[04:33] <Hobbsee> \sh: that doesnt include the dh_iconcache fix though, or your two extra b-d's
[04:33] <cmvo> Hobbsee: I've seen a patch for swarm somewhere that is supposed to fix it, but I can't find it anymore.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> cmvo: if you do find it, please tell :)
[04:34] <\sh> Hobbsee: ok...wait
[04:34] <Hobbsee> \sh: which are the last changes that we had from debian
[04:34] <Hobbsee> er, deviated from debian
[04:34] <\sh> Hobbsee: you have to merge the dh_iconcache stuff, but not the two adds in build-deps
[04:34] <Hobbsee> \sh: oh, so we dont need them now?
[04:35] <\sh> Hobbsee: the two build deps? no. but the dh_iconcache in debian/rules
[04:35] <cmvo> Hobbsee: But I doubt it is a GL problem, because swarm is non-GL.
[04:35] <Hobbsee> \sh: you just checked that it built without them, i take it?
[04:35] <cmvo> Hobbsee: I'll keep looking...
[04:35] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes, didn't see the iconcache addon 
[04:35] <Hobbsee> \sh: MoM seemed to merge that fix okay...
[04:35] <Hobbsee> cmvo: yeah, definetly.  those screensavers annoy me, and i havent taken the time to sit down, look at them, and figure out what the heck is going on
[04:36] <Hobbsee> oh yes.  Riddell, you around?
[04:36] <\sh> Hobbsee: which file did you inspect?
[04:36] <Hobbsee> \sh: w.r.t?
[04:37] <Hobbsee> \sh: maybe if you tell me what i found in this file i inspected, i'll know which one you're meaning.
[04:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: the kdiff3_0.9.90-1.patch file just diffs 0.9.88-5 and 0.90.1
[04:37] <\sh> but not 0.9.88-5ubuntu2 and 0.9.90-1
[04:37] <Hobbsee> that would be in the other patch file, also in that MoM directory wouldnt it?
[04:37] <\sh> but in the source dir of 0.9.90-1ubuntu1 our patches are in
[04:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: I used grab-merges :)
[04:38] <Hobbsee> \sh: yes, same here
[04:38] <Hobbsee> man my head hurts....
[04:38] <Hobbsee> that's true, yes...
[04:38] <\sh> Hobbsee: so, it just gives us the difference between last debian upstream and new debian upstream but not the diff between last ubuntu version and new debian upstream
[04:38] <\sh> which sucks
[04:38] <\sh> so you have to check the source dir of new mom ubuntu version to be sure...argl
[04:38] <Hobbsee> \sh: er, there are two diffs there.
[04:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: there are two patch files
[04:39] <\sh> kdiff3_0.9.88-5ubuntu2.patch and kdiff3_0.9.90-1.patch
[04:39] <Hobbsee> \sh: yes
[04:40] <\sh> the first one gives us diffs between 0.9.88-5 and 0.9.88-5ubuntu2 
[04:40] <Hobbsee> isnt the former the one you're talking about?
[04:40] <\sh> the second just from 0.9.88-5 to 0.9.90-1
[04:40] <Riddell> hi Hobbsee 
[04:40] <Hobbsee> ah okay...
[04:40] <\sh> there is no real merge file
[04:41] <\sh> the merge is directly done in dir kdiff3-0.9.90-1ubuntu1
[04:41] <Hobbsee> Riddell: sorry to annoy you, cos i'm aware that i'm not *too* coherant at the moment, but what would be the impact of putting a dep of kscreensaver-xsavers in kubuntu-desktop?
[04:41] <Hobbsee> both packages are in main
[04:41] <Riddell> Hobbsee: we'd have to bring in xscreensavers which is a gtk job
[04:42] <Hobbsee> Riddell: no, only xscreensaver-data
[04:42] <\sh> we could put kscreensavers-xsavers as suggested package into the control fil
[04:42] <\sh> e
[04:42] <Riddell> Hobbsee: still a gtk job
[04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: kscreensaver-xsavers has a depend on xscreensaver-data
[04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: which would pull in gtk 
[04:43] <Hobbsee> \sh: indeed, that's what i said (i think)
[04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: we should avoid that ;)
[04:43] <Hobbsee> bleh.  you're right, i was under the impression that kscreensaver was pulling in xscreensaver-data anyway
[04:44] <Hobbsee> Riddell: there are a fair few bug reports on the screensavers not working correctly - which need these packages to fix, pretty much
[04:45] <\sh> Hobbsee: ok, remove libacl1-dev, libattr1-dev from debian/control (you can see the conflict in kdiff3-0.9.90-1ubuntu1/debian/control) and add the dh_iconcache in the debian/rules file again, everything should be ok
[04:45] <Riddell> Hobbsee: kde shouldn't list screensavers from xscreensaver unless kscreensaver-xsavers is installed
[04:45] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it does.  or something borks.  because....
[04:45] <Hobbsee> argh.
[04:45] <Hobbsee> because something.
[04:46] <Hobbsee> because solarwinds is shown
[04:46] <Hobbsee> and that's part of rss-glx - to my knowledge, that's not in kscreensaver
[04:46] <Hobbsee> \sh: okay....later...
[04:47] <\sh> Hobbsee: move dh_iconcache in the binary-arch: build install section and not in the install: section, :)
[04:47] <Hobbsee> \sh: yeah, i know - i'm not sure why it's there.
[04:48] <Riddell> Hobbsee: chowells here is a maintainer of kscreensaver
[04:48] <\sh> hmm..I could do the merge now ;)
[04:48] <Hobbsee> \sh: go for it
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hey chowells 
[04:48] <chowells> hi
[04:48] <chowells> I'm not here right now
[04:48] <chowells> bbs
[04:49] <chowells> (Sorry, real life stuff like trying to work out why my bank closed my bank account, leaving me without access to any money)
[04:49] <Hobbsee> chowells: sure.  what timezone are you in?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> well, what's the current time, etc?
[04:49] <Riddell> he's in .uk
[04:49] <Hobbsee> right
[04:50] <Hobbsee> Riddell: we dont have any other kde based screensaver packages installed as a result of k-d, do we?
[04:50] <Riddell> Hobbsee: we have kscreensaver by default
[04:51] <Riddell> but not kscreensaver-xsavers
[04:51] <Hobbsee> yeah, any others?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> (oops, thought i mentioned that)
[04:52] <Hobbsee> cmvo: ping?
[04:52] <Riddell> no others
[04:52] <cmvo> Hobbsee: yo
[04:53] <Hobbsee> Riddell: cool
[04:53] <Hobbsee> cmvo: chowells is the maintainer of screensaver
[04:53] <\sh> hmmm
[04:53] <\sh> I wonder what this is:
[04:53] <\sh> -rw-r--r--  1 shermann shermann   8127 2006-03-13 07:41 dirbrowser.png.DEBIAN
[04:53] <\sh> -rw-r--r--  1 shermann shermann  29082 2004-06-14 08:08 dirbrowser.png.UBUNTU
[04:54] <\sh> -EWHATTHEDIFFERENCEINSIZE?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> \sh: debian did newer versions of those files than ubuntu, it looks like
[04:54] <\sh> sure
[04:54] <cmvo> Hobbsee: Solar Wind works here without kscreensaver-xsavers installed.
[04:54] <\sh> so I will use debians or ubuntus?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> cmvo: fully, or only on the top half of the screen
[04:54] <Riddell> cmvo: do you have xscreensaver-data installed?
[04:54] <Hobbsee> \sh: *raises an eyebrow* - debians - they're later, and theyr'e smaller
[04:54] <cmvo> Hobbsee: Ah, thanks. kde maintainer?
[04:55] <Riddell> cmvo: yes
[04:55] <cmvo> Hobbsee: fully
[04:55] <\sh> Hobbsee: hmmm....this could be a sign...
[04:56] <Hobbsee> chowells: what interests me right this second is why do we have two xsavers in the middle of a kscreensaver package?  these two seem to not work without kscreensavers-xsavers installed (i think, either that or another package)
[04:56] <cmvo> Riddell: No, xscreensaver-data is not installed.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> chowells: why are these two not in kscreensaver-xsavers?  bug 23743 
[04:56] <Riddell> sounds like a kde screensaver then
[04:56] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 23743 in kdeartwork "Screensaver plugins Swarm and Space GL do not start" [Medium,Needs info]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/23743
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: it's from rss-glx, usually
[04:57] <Hobbsee> gorgeous screensaver :)
[04:57] <Riddell> Hobbsee: oh, right
[04:57] <Hobbsee> chowells: apologies for any rudeness, etc, from myself - it's around 1am, and i'm fighting not to pass out - and have been doing so on and off all night
[04:57] <cmvo> Riddell: My problem is, that Swarm and Space GL only work in test mode.
[04:58] <chowells> Hobbsee: someone ported two of the RSS screensavers to KDE natively
[04:58] <Hobbsee> cmvo: they're the only two xsavers in the middle of kscreensaver.  i'm wondering why they're there at all
[04:58] <Hobbsee> chowells: oh nice!  wish they worked.  which was the other - solarwinds and ?
[04:58] <chowells> Hobbsee: I'm not sure without looking
[04:58] <Hobbsee> or were you referring to kspace and kswarm?
[04:58] <Hobbsee> ah okay
[04:59] <Hobbsee> chowells: oh, euphoria
[04:59] <chowells> Hobbsee: this is really bad time for myself also, trying to move house/find out why my bank closed my accounts without asking/do washing. bbl
[04:59] <Hobbsee> chowells: okay, you'll come back in 24 hours or so maybe?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> or once you have an answer?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:59] <\sh> merge done.
[04:59] <chowells> Hobbsee: in a few hours, maybe
[04:59] <Hobbsee> \sh: excellent, thanks.  that was of kdiff3, so i dont have to worry about it?
[05:00] <Hobbsee> chowells: i'll be asleep sorry - UK/AU timezones are terrible
[05:00] <Hobbsee> chowells: but whatever, and there's always email if you really cant find me
[05:00] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes..I'll upload the source packages to my server so someone can take it and do an upload
[05:00] <apachelogger> if there is no .pot in the po directory, do I still have to generate it while packaging?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> night all.  if i make it that far.
[05:02] <Hobbsee> night Riddell 
[05:02] <Riddell> conference over, I'm gone
[05:02] <Riddell> night Hobbsee 
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hehe cya
[05:02] <cmvo> Hobbsee: night, cu around
[05:02] <Hobbsee> cmvo: i'll be here :P
[05:02] <Hobbsee> a bit
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ajmitch_: is here, so not a lot.
[06:30] <nixternal> moins
[07:39] <jpatrick> hi nixternal
[07:41] <apachelogger> http://picasaweb.google.com/apachelogger/Misc/photo#4947197637897879570
[07:41] <apachelogger> yummy :D
[07:44] <Riddell> yay!
[07:48] <nixternal> well hello there jpatrick
[07:48] <nixternal> hey Riddell...what are you yay'n for?
[07:48] <nixternal> apachelogger: please don't rub it in...you know the fact you have your cd's and I DON"T!!!
[07:49] <apachelogger> hehe, my cds = anyone's cds
[07:49] <apachelogger> they will soon visit whole austria ;-)
[07:50] <Riddell> nixternal: that apachelogger has kubuntu CDs
[07:50] <nixternal> ahh yes
[07:51] <nixternal> apachelogger: did they come with stickers or no?
[07:51] <nixternal> i see the Ubuntu cd's come with stickers
[07:51] <apachelogger> no stickers
[07:51] <apachelogger> and some strange words ;-)
[07:51] <nixternal> lol
[07:51] <hunger> nixternal: Yeap... but only the ubuntu ones and those come printed on a white background.
[07:52] <hunger> nixternal: Can't have those on my nice black thinkpad;-)
[07:52] <nixternal> im gonna paste my ubuntu stickers all over the taco bell windows like veryone else does ;)
[07:52] <apachelogger> for example the cover says "to install kubuntu, run the live cd and double click on the install icon"
[07:52] <nixternal> haha..really?
[07:52] <apachelogger> yeah... never saw double click in kde :P
[07:52] <nixternal> hehe no doubt
[07:53] <nixternal> double click would start 2 instances of an installation
[07:53] <apachelogger> yeah
[07:53] <apachelogger> another thing is "to request free ubuntu CDs, visit shipit.kubuntu.org"
[07:53] <jpatrick> apachelogger: probably to trick the windows people
[07:53] <nixternal> lol
[07:53] <apachelogger> well
[07:53] <apachelogger> I guess the text is just stolen from the ubuntu cd :P
[07:53] <apachelogger> anyway, really minor stuff that is
[07:54] <nixternal> post it as a bug...you might as well be the first one
[07:54] <apachelogger> somehow I think no one would care ;-)
[07:54] <nixternal> "when i double click as told on my kubuntu cd's from shipit, it opens up 2 install windows, which one do i use"
[07:54] <nixternal> haha
[07:54] <apachelogger> lol
[07:54] <nixternal> i will reply with "neither, as it will void the warranty"
[07:55] <nixternal> and then reject it
[07:55] <apachelogger> Amarok 1.4.1 in ~2 hours
[07:55] <apachelogger> ..hopefully..
[07:56] <nixternal> i already have it ;)
[07:57] <apachelogger> huh, how so?
[07:57] <apachelogger> I haven't tagged yet
[07:57] <jpatrick> he got a leaked version
[07:57] <jpatrick> ;)
[07:57] <apachelogger> oioi :P
[07:57] <nixternal> apachelogger: on the Amarok site, there is a nice splash screen with the cars coming at you...is this going to be the new splash for "Fast Forward"
[07:57] <apachelogger> nixternal: can you give me the URL?
[07:58] <nixternal> it is on the front page of the site
[07:58] <apachelogger> nope
[07:58] <apachelogger> even though I have to admit - we don't have a new splash yet
[07:58] <jpatrick> nixternal: that's the decoy
[07:58] <apachelogger> our artists use to disappear  a lot :S
[07:58] <nixternal> http://amarok.kde.org
[07:58] <apachelogger> only release pic for beta1 that is
[07:59] <nixternal> i like that splash...since kds isn't gettin' fixed to stop the splash from appearing after you disable it ;)   i might as well have that cool looking splash ;)
[07:59] <nixternal> well kds is getting fixed...i just wanted to be a pain in the.............
[08:00] <apachelogger> I'm not sure whether this is a kde issue
[08:00] <apachelogger> even more a bug in amarok caused by dappers kiosk rc
[08:00] <nixternal> really...i have heard different things concerning it...so i just stuck with what i heard last i think
[08:01] <apachelogger> if you remove the show splash screen option from the amarokrc in kubuntu-default-settings you can turn the splash off
[08:01] <nixternal> yup
[08:01] <nixternal> arg..gotta go do some work..and then do some packaging later on
[08:01] <nixternal> ttyl
[08:31] <Riddell> see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates jpatrick :)
[10:33] <kwwii> Riddell: ping?
[10:35] <kwwii> Riddell: heads up, there is an email about the kubuntu.org page (looks and content) on the ubuntu-artwork list.
[10:45] <nixternal> moins kwwii
[10:46] <kwwii> hi nixternal
[11:43] <apachelogger> http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/76/66/
[11:43] <apachelogger> :D
[11:54] <abattoir> apachelogger: awesome :) 
[11:58] <\sh> apachelogger: congrats :)
[11:58] <apachelogger> thx :)
[11:58] <\sh> apachelogger: tell it to the other amarok devs as well :)
[11:59] <apachelogger> \sh: done ;-)
[12:00] <abattoir> so its officially Amarok now?
[12:00] <abattoir> ... instead of amaroK
[12:00] <apachelogger> yep