=== danimo [n=danimo@kde/danimo] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:09] \sh_away: ping? [12:37] DaSkreech: don't run from the channel..get back there and help me..im swamped ;) === mikix [n=mikix@AOrleans-152-1-68-14.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:19] Nope Libcairo breaks the machine [01:19] hehe === DaSkreech laughs at nixternal's opacity [01:22] my lord [01:22] how many times did i say it to him? and he kept going at you [01:22] lol [01:23] Yeah people get like that in big irc rooms I guess [01:23] Or very small [01:23] :-/ [01:31] who runs ubotu? [01:31] Man small minded people really need a better vocabulary [01:31] Seveas [01:31] as it seems they are making fun of him in the pub as he can't spell [01:31] haha === mikix [n=mikix@AOrleans-152-1-68-14.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [01:34] nixternal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage [01:36] you shouldn't have really showed me that ;) [01:36] ubotu: tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you [01:36] I know nothing about tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you [01:36] arg [01:36] ubotu, tell Seveas that on the !language script, you spell it langage and that the channel picked on you [01:36] !language [01:36] Please watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly. [01:37] lol [01:37] !no language is Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly. [01:37] [05:07:22] Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops. Thank you for your attention to detail [01:37] :) [01:38] although, i probably didn't need to have it msg him, as he will see all the red nick highlights === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:38] Who Seveas ? === DaSkreech grins [01:38] haha [01:38] ya === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.36.136] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@72.27.128.34] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:05] -hup Daskreech === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pounk [n=pounk@142-217-81-161.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@207-172-219-193.c3-0.frm-ubr3.sbo-frm.ma.cable.rcn.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst_ [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] Howdy [03:51] bddebian: Hi [03:52] Hello DaSkreech === RadiantFire [n=ryan@c-69-180-43-27.hsd1.ga.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:01] hiya Hobbsee === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee_@CPE-144-136-118-234.nsw.bigpond.net.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:16] hi all [05:17] Hobbsee: Hi!! [05:17] [22:01] hiya Hobbsee [05:17] hey DaSkreech :) [05:17] hi nixternal [05:17] you didn't hop on right away ;) [05:17] nixternal: Cheater [05:17] hahaha [05:17] hehehe [05:17] im building konversation .20 from svn right now [05:17] yeah i'm fixing my machine [05:17] nixternal: ah fun. how close is it to release? [05:17] Whats in .20? [05:18] it doesn't seem like it is that far off from the changelog [05:18] nice [05:18] i heard the taskbar can be set to tree format [05:18] we cant take that from SVN for edgy we need to wait till release [05:18] which i hope..otherwise im ditching konversation [05:18] And going with X-chat? [05:19] bleck. xchat is nice in some ways but the other ways really annoy me. [05:19] irssi [05:19] irssi at the moment usually konversation [05:19] i played with xchat tonight and it is god awful ugly === DaSkreech pfffs at the first comment KDE users always have :) [05:21] heh === DaSkreech muchly dislikes kopete [05:27] Defense: But it's pretty! === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:36] So whats in the .20? [05:36] nothing good from the looks of it [05:36] doesn't look any different to me [05:37] bah... === nixternal deletes the junk [05:38] im almost going to just run mIRC in wine ;) [05:43] heh [05:44] oh man this thing is *still* upgrading! [05:45] edgy? [05:46] no [05:46] dapper [05:46] seeing as it formatted / last night [05:46] when i tried to remove edgy and just install GRUB. [05:46] it decided to format /, did it uncleanly, so had to be redone again, etc [05:50] anyone try kvirc? [05:53] nixa while ago [05:53] nixternal: a while ago [05:56] it is kind of ugly ;) [05:56] im going to try it though..it does my window list/tree view === |nixtern| [n=kvirc@71.194.189.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel === |nixtern| is now known as richj [05:56] so i don't make my other screen blink all the time [06:03] Bye Hobbler === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:33] i see you [06:33] hi again all [06:33] hey nixternal :P i see you too [06:33] gahaha [06:33] hiya Hobbsee [06:34] i was makin' fun of imbrandon on that one [06:34] ah [06:52] Bed time === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:10] heh [07:10] ice cream time!!! === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.108.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:00] \sh_away: ping? === nixternal [n=nixterna@unaffiliated/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.58.71] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:05] Hobbsee: I tried that a while ago, seems \sh really means it this time [09:05] danimo: hehe okay then [09:05] moin Hobbsee btw [09:06] hi === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.61.97] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === nikola [n=pygi@83-131-234-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pygi [n=pygi@83-131-234-110.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === hunger [n=tobias@p54A61B44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel === imbrandon pokes Hobbsee FINALY [10:41] hehe === Hobbsee pokes imbrandon back feebly [10:42] dont do that :P [10:42] heh === sean_ [n=sean@sub-stinger-dsl-67-43-69-241.wvi.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:42] got everything setup but my edgy chroot and email but i'll do that tomarrow ;) [10:42] nice :) [10:43] Hobbsee: you should scream op abuse. [10:43] even got my osx booting inside a "window" in dapper from the other partition LOL [10:43] with mac-oon-linux [10:43] s/oon/on [10:43] crimsun: heh, i could boot him if i wanted. [10:43] lol @ crimsun [10:43] nah, just say he has a history of oppressing you [10:44] hehe [10:44] ouch [10:44] like that cyorxamp person === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o imbrandon] by ChanServ [10:44] hehe === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === Hobbsee contemplates === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has left #kubuntu-devel ["did] === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] ;) === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has left #kubuntu-devel [requested] === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:45] :P [10:45] ouch [10:45] help help I'm being oppressed [10:46] /kick crimsun [10:46] hehe [10:46] ;) [10:46] that was kinda funny earlier crimsun too bad Sev*eas wasent arround [10:47] i'm sure he would have given him a what for chewing [10:47] ;) [10:54] !logs [10:54] Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs === kameron [n=kameron@S0106000129f5b884.cc.shawcable.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mikix [n=mikix@AOrleans-152-1-78-219.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst_ [n=verwilst@d54C1EB55.access.telenet.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:50] firefox doesn't play sound sometimes.. [12:50] any idea how to fix it? [12:50] which FIREFOX_DSP i have to use? [12:52] try #kubuntu === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === verwilst_ slaps uniq [01:08] found it [01:08] ;) [01:08] :) [01:09] alsa-oss to the rescue ;) [01:09] hi all [01:09] firefox has some annoying issues [01:09] when used under kde [01:09] the sound is one thing [01:09] when you download a movie for example [01:09] and it plays [01:09] and you then click on the item again in the download box, nothing happens [01:10] you have to reclick the link to download it === OculusAquilae [n=bastian@pD950B27D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-25-46.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Huahua [n=hua_@221.172.49.120] has joined #kubuntu-devel === \sh_away is now known as \sh === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.53.73] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === BearPerson [i=karsten@freenode/staff/sourcemage.wizard.BearPerson] has left #kubuntu-devel ["this] === bddebian [n=bdefrees@71.224.172.103] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:39] Howdy [03:40] hi bddebian [03:40] Hi Hobbsee === abattoir_ [n=abattoir@59.92.58.148] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:51] Riddell: hello :) [03:52] Riddell: can you please ask Kamion about the oem-installer backend, for me? [03:52] Riddell: I have mailed him, msg ed him on IRC and have even PM'ed him... no response at all. [03:52] :( [03:53] abattoir_: FYI, it *is* a sunday. [03:53] Hobbsee: i meant over a few weeks :( [03:54] I was patient knowing how busy he is [03:54] Riddell: btw, I have also created a rough UI similar to Ubiquity [03:54] <\sh> abattoir_: hmmm, first there was UDS Paris, and I think he has some time off now [03:54] abattoir_: I would just start porting if I was you [03:55] It is still rough, i have to implement stuff like the World Map for time zone [03:55] oh hi Riddell! [03:55] abattoir_: you can just copy my code from ubiquity [03:55] which is just a copy of kworldmap [03:55] Riddell: I have just left the bits which are backend dependent... have kinda done the rest [03:55] Riddell: ubiquity is really nice, from what i saw - i only tried to use the ubuntu one though === OculusAquilae [n=oculus@pD950B27D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:56] Riddell: I'll smoothen the edges, implement the map widget.... [03:56] well, port to pyton not copy [03:56] hi Hobbsee [03:57] Hobbsee: why only ubuntu? [03:57] and then base it on the current oem-installer [03:57] Riddell: that was what Pia had. [03:57] abattoir_: yes [03:57] Hobbsee: bah, she's biased :) [03:57] the .templates, .mnu s etc. [03:57] Riddell: hehe, yeah, but she's the second person i've actually met in person - and neither of htem were carrying spiffy kubuntu cds [03:58] Riddell: who the heck took off the server install option for the live cd, and what was the rationale behind it??? [03:58] Riddell: ok thank you :) [03:58] Hobbsee: a live install just copies the live filesystem, you don't have a choice to not install something [03:58] Riddell: also, kubuntu-desktop for edgy is not installable, due to an amarok dep not being installable - it needs updating. [03:58] <\sh> Riddell: how can I order kubuntu cds > 10 media? [03:58] <\sh> Hobbsee: which dep? [03:59] Riddell: true... === Hobbsee thinks back. [03:59] Hobbsee: I'll be doing all the rest of the updates next week [03:59] \sh: you can do a special order, there's a link for custom order now [03:59] a b-d: libtunepimp2-dev --> libtunepimp3-dev [03:59] <\sh> Riddell: sip4, pyqt3, pykde3 is laying ready on this laptop [04:00] \sh: you rock [04:00] Hobbsee: oh good, that means tunepimp got through NEW [04:00] <\sh> Riddell: would you like to upload or should I wait for tuesday? [04:00] Riddell: i believe so, yes. [04:00] \sh: put it on revu and I'll take a look at it when I can [04:01] which will be tomorrow [04:01] <\sh> ok..uploading it later to revu [04:02] Riddell: also, that edgy package updates thing, apparently we're supposed to be using MoM for that, and MoM has a more up to date listing === Hobbsee needs to write a howto for how to use the MoM, too. === Hobbsee shouldnt keep pointing people to those unfortunate logs - as she ended up cursing later in them, and teaching the devs somethign :P [04:03] <\sh> the problem with mom right now is, that nobody knows who is doing what...I think I have to have a look on grab-merges and adjust it to file bugs in LP [04:03] \sh: true [04:04] everyone's doing what they last changed, arent they? === Hobbsee wonders if stevenk did her latest upload. === Hobbsee isnt *that* confident that something didnt bork there. [04:04] <\sh> problem with that is, "I'm too old, to remember what I did" ;)) [04:04] \sh: it's called the search function :P [04:05] <\sh> I forgot to add "I'm lazy, too" so I would take anything what comes to my fingers... [04:05] haha === Hobbsee makes a mental note to do all of hers. === Hobbsee thinks the last count was...49? [04:06] mind you, i'm not going to touch cdbs again - i'm not syncing that! [04:06] Hobbsee: where does mom have a list of packages? [04:06] <\sh> Hobbsee: why not? cdbs is very popular ;) [04:07] <\sh> http://merges.ubuntu.com/ [04:07] <\sh> http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html [04:07] <\sh> e.g. [04:07] /universe.html [04:07] yeah [04:07] ditto restricted, et [04:07] c [04:07] cdbs is a pain to touch === Hobbsee likes cdbs, but not hacking it. unless it's somethign really simple. === Riddell agrees [04:08] <\sh> Riddell: right...I don't like cdbs very much [04:08] <\sh> hmm..we could merge grap-merges with lpbugs.py [04:09] \sh: what upload privs do you have at the moment? none? [04:09] <\sh> Hobbsee: none [04:09] \sh: yeah, damn [04:09] <\sh> Hobbsee: I wonder if I can reactivate them on tuesday [04:10] <\sh> well, I want to spam my inbox again ;) [04:10] 36 merges that i should be doing. ouch. [04:10] \sh: hehe, nice [04:10] <\sh> I'm hungry for merges ;) [04:10] \sh: if you do, i'll warn you now - i'll probably be poking you for upload privs :P [04:11] \sh: you and bddebian, and zak*ame and whoever else looks interesting with power. [04:11] <\sh> Hobbsee: I don't have power :) === bddebian has no power [04:11] \sh: but you will [04:11] bddebian: rubbish, you can upload [04:12] <\sh> Hobbsee: but I will speak for you in front of the TB :) [04:13] \sh: thanks :) [04:13] oh nooooooooooooooooooooooo! === Hobbsee has lost her "devel" folder from when she reformatted. === Hobbsee hopes there was nothing of importance in there [04:14] \sh: next TB is at 6am - there's no way in hell i would make that one - and be coherant [04:15] \sh: however, if you could check a package for me, i'd appreciate it. just give me a bit of time to try it again [04:16] oh, \sh - with kdiff3, you added a couple of b-d's - how do i tell if they're still needed? [04:16] <\sh> Hobbsee: well, next TB will be 22:00 german time, which is really late for me as well, when I'm not at home...you know, that I'm working the week in karlsruhe.. [04:17] 2200. 10pm. late? weird. [04:17] true, right [04:17] <\sh> Hobbsee: lemme check [04:17] \sh: in all seriousness, i *really* dont do mornings well - see logs of the meetings, or whatever [04:18] <\sh> kdiff3 (0.9.88-5ubuntu1) dapper; urgency=low [04:18] <\sh> * debian/control: added libacl1-dev and libattr1-dev to build-deps [04:19] \sh: yes [04:19] \sh: the package still seems to build fine with them in [04:20] <\sh> Hobbsee: I'll check plain debian upstream in the moment...give me some minutes [04:20] <\sh> I added them because it didn't build without them [04:20] \sh: that'd be cool [04:20] ah ok [04:20] <\sh> and because we changed something in kdelibs at this time, when I remember correctly [04:21] <\sh> well more build-deps won't hurt..but less ;) [04:21] \sh: yeah, true === Hobbsee checks to see if it's exploded this time. [04:22] <\sh> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libidn/libidn11_0.5.18-2_i386.deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libi/libidn/libidn11-dev_0.5.18-2_i386.deb [04:22] <\sh> not found...can't build arg [04:23] :( === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:23] it built a couple of days ago [04:23] <\sh> well, it's a dep from kdelibs4 or libqt3-mt but it's not in the archives right now [04:25] <\sh> strange 0.6.3 is in the archives [04:25] <\sh> lemme update my edgy pbuilder [04:25] <\sh> could be my problem [04:26] <\sh> ah ... didn't update for a couple of days ;) [04:26] \sh: that'd do ti :P [04:27] <\sh> well, it's on my companies laptop...so I didn't care ;) [04:28] hehe nice :) === Hobbsee double checks that this builds. [04:32] Hobbsee: Hi! Thanks for looking into the screensaver problem (#23743). It happens here in breezy, dapper [04:32] bug 23743 [04:32] Malone bug 23743 in kdeartwork "Screensaver plugins Swarm and Space GL do not start" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/23743 [04:32] <\sh> Hobbsee: request a sync for kdiff3 [04:32] heya cmvo [04:32] \sh: it can be synced? [04:32] Hobbsee: and dapper + kde 3.5.3. [04:32] oh yeah.... [04:33] \sh: how on earth do i do that? [04:33] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes [04:33] bug report, and assign to motu reviewers? [04:33] \sh: that doesnt include the dh_iconcache fix though, or your two extra b-d's [04:33] Hobbsee: I've seen a patch for swarm somewhere that is supposed to fix it, but I can't find it anymore. [04:34] cmvo: if you do find it, please tell :) [04:34] <\sh> Hobbsee: ok...wait === Hobbsee will be most pleased. [04:34] \sh: which are the last changes that we had from debian [04:34] er, deviated from debian [04:34] <\sh> Hobbsee: you have to merge the dh_iconcache stuff, but not the two adds in build-deps [04:34] \sh: oh, so we dont need them now? [04:35] <\sh> Hobbsee: the two build deps? no. but the dh_iconcache in debian/rules [04:35] Hobbsee: But I doubt it is a GL problem, because swarm is non-GL. [04:35] \sh: you just checked that it built without them, i take it? [04:35] Hobbsee: I'll keep looking... [04:35] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes, didn't see the iconcache addon [04:35] \sh: MoM seemed to merge that fix okay... [04:35] cmvo: yeah, definetly. those screensavers annoy me, and i havent taken the time to sit down, look at them, and figure out what the heck is going on [04:36] oh yes. Riddell, you around? [04:36] <\sh> Hobbsee: which file did you inspect? [04:36] \sh: w.r.t? === Hobbsee is lost [04:37] \sh: maybe if you tell me what i found in this file i inspected, i'll know which one you're meaning. [04:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: the kdiff3_0.9.90-1.patch file just diffs 0.9.88-5 and 0.90.1 [04:37] <\sh> but not 0.9.88-5ubuntu2 and 0.9.90-1 [04:37] that would be in the other patch file, also in that MoM directory wouldnt it? [04:37] <\sh> but in the source dir of 0.9.90-1ubuntu1 our patches are in [04:37] <\sh> Hobbsee: I used grab-merges :) [04:38] \sh: yes, same here [04:38] man my head hurts.... [04:38] that's true, yes... [04:38] <\sh> Hobbsee: so, it just gives us the difference between last debian upstream and new debian upstream but not the diff between last ubuntu version and new debian upstream [04:38] <\sh> which sucks [04:38] <\sh> so you have to check the source dir of new mom ubuntu version to be sure...argl [04:38] \sh: er, there are two diffs there. [04:39] <\sh> Hobbsee: there are two patch files [04:39] <\sh> kdiff3_0.9.88-5ubuntu2.patch and kdiff3_0.9.90-1.patch [04:39] \sh: yes [04:40] <\sh> the first one gives us diffs between 0.9.88-5 and 0.9.88-5ubuntu2 [04:40] isnt the former the one you're talking about? [04:40] <\sh> the second just from 0.9.88-5 to 0.9.90-1 [04:40] hi Hobbsee [04:40] ah okay... [04:40] <\sh> there is no real merge file [04:41] <\sh> the merge is directly done in dir kdiff3-0.9.90-1ubuntu1 [04:41] Riddell: sorry to annoy you, cos i'm aware that i'm not *too* coherant at the moment, but what would be the impact of putting a dep of kscreensaver-xsavers in kubuntu-desktop? [04:41] both packages are in main [04:41] Hobbsee: we'd have to bring in xscreensavers which is a gtk job [04:42] Riddell: no, only xscreensaver-data [04:42] <\sh> we could put kscreensavers-xsavers as suggested package into the control fil [04:42] <\sh> e [04:42] Hobbsee: still a gtk job [04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: kscreensaver-xsavers has a depend on xscreensaver-data [04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: which would pull in gtk [04:43] \sh: indeed, that's what i said (i think) [04:43] <\sh> Hobbsee: we should avoid that ;) [04:43] bleh. you're right, i was under the impression that kscreensaver was pulling in xscreensaver-data anyway [04:44] Riddell: there are a fair few bug reports on the screensavers not working correctly - which need these packages to fix, pretty much === Hobbsee hasnt looked at the upstream kscreensavers, but they seem to be replicating part of rss-glx, and doing it badly. [04:45] <\sh> Hobbsee: ok, remove libacl1-dev, libattr1-dev from debian/control (you can see the conflict in kdiff3-0.9.90-1ubuntu1/debian/control) and add the dh_iconcache in the debian/rules file again, everything should be ok [04:45] Hobbsee: kde shouldn't list screensavers from xscreensaver unless kscreensaver-xsavers is installed [04:45] Riddell: it does. or something borks. because.... [04:45] argh. [04:45] because something. [04:46] because solarwinds is shown [04:46] and that's part of rss-glx - to my knowledge, that's not in kscreensaver [04:46] \sh: okay....later... [04:47] <\sh> Hobbsee: move dh_iconcache in the binary-arch: build install section and not in the install: section, :) [04:47] \sh: yeah, i know - i'm not sure why it's there. === Hobbsee is amused. === Hobbsee thought she was the queen of the dh_iconcache fixes, and she's being told how to do them :P === chowells [n=chris@kde/howells] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:48] Hobbsee: chowells here is a maintainer of kscreensaver [04:48] <\sh> hmm..I could do the merge now ;) [04:48] \sh: go for it [04:48] hey chowells [04:48] hi [04:48] I'm not here right now [04:48] bbs === Hobbsee wonders if this can wait approx 24 hours until she feels human again. [04:49] (Sorry, real life stuff like trying to work out why my bank closed my bank account, leaving me without access to any money) [04:49] chowells: sure. what timezone are you in? [04:49] well, what's the current time, etc? [04:49] he's in .uk [04:49] right [04:50] Riddell: we dont have any other kde based screensaver packages installed as a result of k-d, do we? [04:50] Hobbsee: we have kscreensaver by default [04:51] but not kscreensaver-xsavers [04:51] yeah, any others? [04:51] (oops, thought i mentioned that) [04:52] cmvo: ping? [04:52] no others [04:52] Hobbsee: yo [04:53] Riddell: cool [04:53] cmvo: chowells is the maintainer of screensaver [04:53] <\sh> hmmm [04:53] <\sh> I wonder what this is: [04:53] <\sh> -rw-r--r-- 1 shermann shermann 8127 2006-03-13 07:41 dirbrowser.png.DEBIAN [04:53] <\sh> -rw-r--r-- 1 shermann shermann 29082 2004-06-14 08:08 dirbrowser.png.UBUNTU [04:54] <\sh> -EWHATTHEDIFFERENCEINSIZE? [04:54] \sh: debian did newer versions of those files than ubuntu, it looks like [04:54] <\sh> sure [04:54] Hobbsee: Solar Wind works here without kscreensaver-xsavers installed. [04:54] <\sh> so I will use debians or ubuntus? [04:54] cmvo: fully, or only on the top half of the screen [04:54] cmvo: do you have xscreensaver-data installed? [04:54] \sh: *raises an eyebrow* - debians - they're later, and theyr'e smaller [04:54] Hobbsee: Ah, thanks. kde maintainer? [04:55] cmvo: yes [04:55] Hobbsee: fully [04:55] <\sh> Hobbsee: hmmm....this could be a sign... [04:56] chowells: what interests me right this second is why do we have two xsavers in the middle of a kscreensaver package? these two seem to not work without kscreensavers-xsavers installed (i think, either that or another package) [04:56] Riddell: No, xscreensaver-data is not installed. [04:56] chowells: why are these two not in kscreensaver-xsavers? bug 23743 [04:56] sounds like a kde screensaver then [04:56] Malone bug 23743 in kdeartwork "Screensaver plugins Swarm and Space GL do not start" [Medium,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/23743 [04:56] Riddell: it's from rss-glx, usually [04:57] gorgeous screensaver :) [04:57] Hobbsee: oh, right [04:57] chowells: apologies for any rudeness, etc, from myself - it's around 1am, and i'm fighting not to pass out - and have been doing so on and off all night [04:57] Riddell: My problem is, that Swarm and Space GL only work in test mode. [04:58] Hobbsee: someone ported two of the RSS screensavers to KDE natively [04:58] cmvo: they're the only two xsavers in the middle of kscreensaver. i'm wondering why they're there at all [04:58] chowells: oh nice! wish they worked. which was the other - solarwinds and ? [04:58] Hobbsee: I'm not sure without looking [04:58] or were you referring to kspace and kswarm? [04:58] ah okay === apachelogger [n=me@amarok/rokymotion/apachelogger] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:59] chowells: oh, euphoria [04:59] Hobbsee: this is really bad time for myself also, trying to move house/find out why my bank closed my accounts without asking/do washing. bbl [04:59] chowells: okay, you'll come back in 24 hours or so maybe? [04:59] or once you have an answer? [04:59] :) [04:59] <\sh> merge done. [04:59] Hobbsee: in a few hours, maybe [04:59] \sh: excellent, thanks. that was of kdiff3, so i dont have to worry about it? [05:00] chowells: i'll be asleep sorry - UK/AU timezones are terrible [05:00] chowells: but whatever, and there's always email if you really cant find me [05:00] <\sh> Hobbsee: yes..I'll upload the source packages to my server so someone can take it and do an upload [05:00] if there is no .pot in the po directory, do I still have to generate it while packaging? === Hobbsee just wants this figured out. because it's annoying :P [05:01] night all. if i make it that far. [05:02] night Riddell [05:02] conference over, I'm gone [05:02] night Hobbsee [05:02] hehe cya [05:02] Hobbsee: night, cu around [05:02] cmvo: i'll be here :P [05:02] a bit [05:02] ajmitch_: is here, so not a lot. === _ZuZuu_ [n=ZuZubunt@AVelizy-154-1-18-183.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:30] moins === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === OdyX [n=Didier@8.Red-80-33-64.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:39] hi nixternal [07:41] http://picasaweb.google.com/apachelogger/Misc/photo#4947197637897879570 [07:41] yummy :D === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:44] yay! [07:48] well hello there jpatrick [07:48] hey Riddell...what are you yay'n for? [07:48] apachelogger: please don't rub it in...you know the fact you have your cd's and I DON"T!!! [07:49] hehe, my cds = anyone's cds [07:49] they will soon visit whole austria ;-) [07:50] nixternal: that apachelogger has kubuntu CDs [07:50] ahh yes === nixternal waits for his [07:51] apachelogger: did they come with stickers or no? [07:51] i see the Ubuntu cd's come with stickers [07:51] no stickers === nixternal ;( [07:51] and some strange words ;-) [07:51] lol [07:51] nixternal: Yeap... but only the ubuntu ones and those come printed on a white background. [07:52] nixternal: Can't have those on my nice black thinkpad;-) [07:52] im gonna paste my ubuntu stickers all over the taco bell windows like veryone else does ;) [07:52] for example the cover says "to install kubuntu, run the live cd and double click on the install icon" [07:52] haha..really? [07:52] yeah... never saw double click in kde :P [07:52] hehe no doubt [07:53] double click would start 2 instances of an installation [07:53] yeah === nixternal waits for the bugs to start duplicating on malone [07:53] another thing is "to request free ubuntu CDs, visit shipit.kubuntu.org" [07:53] apachelogger: probably to trick the windows people [07:53] lol [07:53] well [07:53] I guess the text is just stolen from the ubuntu cd :P [07:53] anyway, really minor stuff that is [07:54] post it as a bug...you might as well be the first one [07:54] somehow I think no one would care ;-) [07:54] "when i double click as told on my kubuntu cd's from shipit, it opens up 2 install windows, which one do i use" [07:54] haha [07:54] lol [07:54] i will reply with "neither, as it will void the warranty" [07:55] and then reject it [07:55] Amarok 1.4.1 in ~2 hours [07:55] ..hopefully.. [07:56] i already have it ;) [07:57] huh, how so? [07:57] I haven't tagged yet [07:57] he got a leaked version [07:57] ;) [07:57] oioi :P [07:57] apachelogger: on the Amarok site, there is a nice splash screen with the cars coming at you...is this going to be the new splash for "Fast Forward" [07:57] nixternal: can you give me the URL? [07:58] it is on the front page of the site [07:58] nope === nixternal looks [07:58] even though I have to admit - we don't have a new splash yet [07:58] nixternal: that's the decoy [07:58] our artists use to disappear a lot :S [07:58] http://amarok.kde.org [07:58] only release pic for beta1 that is [07:59] i like that splash...since kds isn't gettin' fixed to stop the splash from appearing after you disable it ;) i might as well have that cool looking splash ;) [07:59] well kds is getting fixed...i just wanted to be a pain in the............. [08:00] I'm not sure whether this is a kde issue [08:00] even more a bug in amarok caused by dappers kiosk rc [08:00] really...i have heard different things concerning it...so i just stuck with what i heard last i think [08:01] if you remove the show splash screen option from the amarokrc in kubuntu-default-settings you can turn the splash off [08:01] yup [08:01] arg..gotta go do some work..and then do some packaging later on [08:01] ttyl === jpatrick wonders what was on his must package list... [08:31] see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuEdgyPackageUpdates jpatrick :) === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel === abattoir [n=abattoir@59.92.41.246] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apachelogger is now known as taglogger === taglogger is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger is now known as releaselogger === pounk [n=pounk@142-217-81-164.telebecinternet.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.108.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === apokryphos [n=apokryph@host-87-74-66-37.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mikix [n=mikix@AOrleans-152-1-78-219.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === kwwii [n=kwwii@likes.smoking.more.than.watching.spacenight.dk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:33] Riddell: ping? [10:35] Riddell: heads up, there is an email about the kubuntu.org page (looks and content) on the ubuntu-artwork list. [10:45] moins kwwii [10:46] hi nixternal === MiKiX [n=MiKiX@AOrleans-152-1-78-219.w86-195.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === releaselogger is now known as rubylogger === claydoh [n=clay@bb-66-63-100-239.gwi.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rubylogger is now known as apachelogger [11:43] http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/76/66/ [11:43] :D [11:54] apachelogger: awesome :) [11:58] <\sh> apachelogger: congrats :) [11:58] thx :) [11:58] <\sh> apachelogger: tell it to the other amarok devs as well :) [11:59] \sh: done ;-) [12:00] so its officially Amarok now? [12:00] ... instead of amaroK [12:00] yep