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DaSkreechmacconline: You can ask again in about 10 minutes to see if someone has a answer. I'm not sure12:07
DaSkreechflosch: You have a very strange install :)12:07
floschDaSkreech: :-/12:07
DaSkreechflosch: I don't even have ashow changes under View12:08
ubuntu_gatekeeper: would rather not reinstall.  I guess I can, but I'd like to know this won't happen again.  I did dist-upgrade so everything would be up to date.12:08
floschDaSkreech: mhm ... strange12:08
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DaSkreechVEry12:08
floschDaSkreech: maybe a special german version? :] 12:09
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ubuntu_gatekeeper: I'd like to be able to figure out what went wrong at least, if I can't fix it.12:09
macconlineDaSkreech: very thanks....12:10
zorglu1how are things tonite ? :)12:10
DaSkreechmacconline: Sure12:10
jaroquick question12:10
DaSkreechjaro: Why?12:10
jarodoes anyone know a good DVB-T Program ??12:11
DaSkreechMine was quicker :)12:11
zorglu1jaro: dvb-t = ?12:11
jarohehe12:11
ubuntu_gatekeeper: I booted the liveCD again (hence the IRC handle), so I could pull any error logfiles that might shed some light on the problem.12:11
floschwhat are backports exactly?12:11
jarodigital TV12:11
jaroother than kaffeine, kdetv, and klear12:11
zorglu1jaro: cant help. i dont even know what is digital tv :)12:12
DaSkreechflosch: There are some programs/fixes that will come up in 6.10 that can be installed in 6.06 These are 'backports" since they should be in the forward looking edition12:12
floschAh ok :)12:12
floschthx12:12
jaroehm... digital TV is when You receive TV with a usual Antenna12:12
zorglu1ah ok12:12
gatekeeperubuntu_: probable need to establish which pacakages are broken then either reinstall them or remove them12:12
zorglu1i called that tv :)12:12
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jarowell it used to be either satelite or cabel12:13
jarocable12:13
zorglu1jaro: well most video program can read it12:13
DaSkreechflosch: Some >might< break programs that you have installed after the installation of Kubuntu but they should work fine with everything that is installed by default and won't break your system12:13
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zorglu1jaro: mythtv is very fancy to do it12:13
floschDaSkreech: okay12:13
jarohm yea, but hard to install12:13
omgwtflolbbqdoes anyone know how to turn military time off of the clock o_o12:13
jaroany other software ?12:13
zorglu1jaro: you try to list all video programm or something ? :)12:14
gatekeeperubuntu_: going to have to shoot off sorry could not be more help, may be one of the others might be able to better help you. I have only ever used dist-upgrade when moving from say breezy to dapper.12:14
jaroyeah12:14
jaroi need to try something else12:14
zorglu1jaro: well goodle will help you :)12:14
zorglu1google even12:14
jarono it didnt12:14
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DaSkreechjaro: have you tried to apt-get myth-tv?12:14
jaromaybe you can tell me what string to search for12:14
fazexCan anyone provide anothe location? Failed to fetch http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/dists/dapper/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found12:15
jarohm ,i might try again12:15
jarodo i need extra repositories for myth ??12:15
ubuntu_is there an apt command for finding broken packages?12:16
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DaSkreechjaro: Do you have Multiverse?12:17
ubuntu_is there an apt command for finding broken packages?12:18
nixternalsudo apt-get install mythtv12:18
jarohm... there is Multiverse in Backports12:18
nixternal!multiverse12:18
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:18
jarocant find that packacge12:18
nixternalbooyah12:18
DaSkreechubuntu: Relax a little12:18
jarobut finds another one refering to it12:18
jarolibmyth12:18
Jiv0c  ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing.  For further details, please see the section INSTALLING12:18
Jiv0c         THE NVIDIA DRIVER in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.12:18
Jiv0cAny one know how to stop X server?12:18
DaSkreechJiv0c: /etc/init.d/kdm stop12:18
ubuntu_ctrl+alt+backspace, no?12:19
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nixternalDaSkreech: i so braindumped on that one12:19
nixternalthat doesn't stop x..just sends you to a terminal12:19
nixternalDaSkreech displayed the correct way to stop x12:19
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Jiv0cWill i help?12:19
Jiv0cWill it help12:19
Jiv0c?12:19
nixternalJiv0c:12:19
nixternaloops12:19
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nixternalJiv0c: you need to ctrl+alt+backspace    to get to a terminal..if it goes to a blank screen..just press enter..and then log in if needed..once you are out of KDE and in the terminal..type    sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop12:20
nixternalthat will give you a blank screen..just press enter and boom..no more x..and you can install the nvidia drivers...which are in the repositories ;)12:21
Jiv0cOoh12:21
Jiv0cOke12:21
ubuntu_so, how do I find broken packages?12:21
Jiv0cI will try12:21
ubuntu_anyone?12:21
nixternalubuntu adept?12:21
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ubuntu_nixternal: I don't exactly have a gui available to me atm12:22
nixternalahh..ok12:22
nixternalif you do     sudo apt-get install -f12:22
nixternalit should list the broken packages12:22
ubuntu_nixternal: thx12:22
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Jiv0cNo shuch command12:25
Jiv0csudo /ect/init.d/kdm stop12:26
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nixternalsudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop12:27
nixternalnot ect...etc12:27
nixternaletc12:27
ubuntu_nixternal: It says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded, doesn't say anything about broken.  Does that mean I don't have any broken pcakages?12:27
Jiv0cLel12:27
nixternallooks like you don't have any broken packages then12:27
Jiv0ccntl+alt+F1 insteed of ctrl+alt+backspace?12:28
nixternalthat works Jiv0c12:28
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steveireDo you guys use KDevelop at all?12:28
ubuntu_nixternal: well that theory's blown then.  I can't get a login prompt, text or graphical12:28
nixternalwhats up steveire12:28
FluxLoverAnyone use a file manager other than Konqueror?12:28
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steveireIt seems to be just about as useful as Kate and no more12:28
nixternallol12:29
steveirenot much nixternal12:29
nixternalthere are a lot of additional packages to install with kdevelop though12:29
nixternalif you just do sudo apt-get install kdevelop then sure you aren't going to get much...there are a lot of extra packages that give you a little bit more12:29
nixternalubuntu_ just because you can't get a login prompt doesn't mean that there is a broken package..means there is something corrupted though12:30
ubuntu_steveire: does KDevelop let you compile and run in the program like M$ Visual Studio?12:30
nixternalwhat exactly is your issue?12:30
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nixternalyes ubuntu_12:30
grxmrxhello12:30
nixternalhello grxmrx12:30
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steveireNot much of an issue really, but I've always used notepad or kedit for programming, and I wanted to see what an IDE is. Maybe I stil don't know what it is... I've never used M$ vis stu.12:31
nixternalubuntu_ what exactly is the issue you are having, and what brought you to the "broken package" conclusion?  are you having an x-windows issue?   can you log in via console?  have you tried to boot a safe kernel?12:32
ubuntu_nixternal: I install Kubuntu Dapper LTS on this system, then installed stuff I usually use.  Now it goes all the way through the bootup sequence, and then goes to a blank screen with a cursor in the corner.12:32
nixternalyou xserver got borked12:32
nixternalreboot, press escape at the grub window12:32
jerryNo loafing!12:32
nixternalboot to the safe kernel configuration12:32
grxmrxI have upgraded kubuntu from breezy to dapper recently and after that my printer is not detected as printer in kubuntu, it is detected as usb device but I cannot add printer since this option is not available in the wizard window12:32
nixternalthen do12:32
nixternalsudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:33
ubuntu_nixternal: someone on here suggested it.  I'm booted on the system with the liveCD, so I chrooted to the HD and ran the apt-get install -f, in the hopes that I could shed some light one the subject12:33
nixternalmy god i am keyfumbleing12:33
grxmrxand the question is, is it possible to get printer to work again or I have to install previous relase of kubuntu (plain install)?12:33
steveireIf you were going to code some javascript, what would you use to do it? Just a text editor?12:34
nixternalsteveire: yes12:34
ubuntu_nixternal: no console login, don't know about the safe kernel thing, never ehard of it12:34
nixternalubuntu_ is Kubuntu installed directly on your hard drive, or are you having issues with LiveCD?12:35
ubuntu_nixternal: directly on hard drive, I booted to the liveCD to investigate and ask IRC12:35
nixternalok..good12:35
nixternalubuntu_ when you boot up your computer, after the bios post is complete, you get another window that comes up, it is the Grub boot window and has a rather quick 2 or 3 second countdown12:36
steveireWhat would you use an IDE for? If you were going to make a GUI app or something?12:36
nixternalwhen you see that screen ubuntu_ press escape...that will get you into the grub menu12:36
ubuntu_nixternal: yeah I saw that12:36
nixternalselect a safe boot option...and then do the     sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:36
nixternaljust follow through, making sure you select the correct video card driver12:37
ubuntu_so it might still be an x problem? usually x problems just drop me to console12:37
nixternalit is an x problem..and sometimes they do..and alot of times they don't12:38
nixternalsteveire: ya, if im messing with gui stuff i use it12:38
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nixternalbut then again, i really only mess around with python right now, as my c++ is rather limited ;)12:38
Jiv0cI get only a screen with Kubuntu on it and i cant do any thing :s12:39
nixternalJiv0c: did that work for you?12:39
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steveireYeah, I use python too, with a text editor12:39
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nixternalJiv0c: have you tried the how-to for the nvidia drivers in the forums or the wiki?12:39
ubuntu_nixternal: thx, rebooting now...12:40
Jiv0cThe how to of nvidia is f*ckng hard12:40
DaSkreechI'm back :-)12:40
nixternalgl ubuntu_12:40
Jiv0cDid'n find an wiki12:40
nixternalhaha DaSkreech12:40
nixternalyou get my msg?12:40
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nixternali was like...omg he dissed me ;)12:40
HawkwindJiv0c: What's so hard about the Nvidia how-to ?12:40
nixternalJiv0c: give me one sec..and i will have it for you12:40
nixternal!nvidia12:41
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto12:41
jaroHmmm can somebody help???12:41
nixternalthere you go12:41
HawkwindJiv0c: You simply install a couple of things, run a command, restart X and you're done12:41
nixternali knew it was around here somehwere12:41
jaroI have an additional monitor plugged in laptop12:41
jarowhichi am using12:41
jarobut I cant switch back to the usual LCD12:41
jaro??12:41
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nixternalyes jaro12:41
DaSkreechYea hI was acroos the room rescuing a system :)12:41
nixternaljaro: you have to use the fn key to get back your main screen12:41
jarothat key doesnt work12:41
jaroI have keytouch installed12:41
nixternalusually the 'fn key' plus a key with a monitor picture on it12:41
jaroi know, but it wont work12:42
DaSkreechnixternal: Normally F5 I think12:42
nixternali would look at my laptop but is covered with ubuntu packaging guide, and other crud12:42
jarosome of the other keys work.. like Volume Up Down12:42
jarobut not all12:42
nixternalyes it is f5 ;)12:42
jaroiknow12:43
nixternaljaro, then you have to boot up in safe mode and redo your xorg.conf12:43
jaroand what do you meanby redo ??12:43
nixternalneed to remove the 2nd monitor information..which just might be easier to do the sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:43
jarothere is no second Monitor information12:43
jarobecause the system used the monitor immediately after reboot12:43
nixternalthat 2nd monitor information has to be removed..as xorg.conf has that external monitor listed as your main monitor12:44
jaroit only had to be plugged in12:44
nixternalbut now, you can't get the lcd on the lappy working correct?12:44
jarothe main monitor isnt even configured anyway, because while configuring it crashes the system12:44
nixternaland using the fn+f5 doesn't work either12:44
nixternalahhhh12:44
nixternalok..im confused now12:44
jarowell it doesnt crash12:44
jarobut12:44
jarothe screen goes black12:44
jaroand i cant do anything anymore until another reboot12:45
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jaroor better, i cant see what i am doing12:45
nixternaloh ya..the good ol' xserver crash w/o warning12:45
DaSkreechWhat happens when you jump back to a terminal12:45
jarothe screen goesblac12:45
jaroblack12:45
nixternaljaro...when the screen goes black..press ctrl+alt+f112:45
jaroit only works with the additional Monitor12:45
lannyhi, is this the right place to ask about synchronizing my sep900 with kontact or other kde programs (or just backuping it with multisync)?12:45
nixternalpress enter..and boom you will have login12:45
DaSkreechjaro: can you press Alt+Ctrl+F1 at that point?12:45
nixternalbut no x12:45
nixternalas your xorg.conf is fubarred12:45
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jarowhen the screen goes black once, it will stay black whatever i do until reboot12:45
DaSkreechjaro: Do you have another computer?12:46
jarothe Ctr+F1 works fine with the other Moniitor12:46
jarono12:46
nixternalDaSkreech: does the fact he is running keytouch though hamper that key combo?12:46
jaroi use laptop12:46
Jiv0cI have no Synaptic Package Manager on my Kubuntu12:46
nixternalJiv0c:12:46
nixternalarg12:46
nixternalJiv0c: sudo apt-get install synaptic12:46
Jiv0c:d A'm ned you know ;)12:46
nixternalkubuntu uses adept12:46
Jiv0cNEd = new12:46
nixternallol12:47
nixternali keep pressing enter instead of tab to autocomplete..that was what the arg was for12:47
nixternalsorry12:47
nixternalhehe12:47
DaSkreechJiv0c: Use Adept12:47
nixternalso it just puts your name up there12:47
nixternalJiv0c:12:47
jarowhen I try to let reconifgure detect monitor automatically, the screen will turn black12:47
nixternalahhhhhh omg12:47
DaSkreechlol12:47
nixternali did it again...i am having a keyfumbeling issue tonight12:48
DaSkreechYou need some tea :)12:48
nixternalwhy???12:48
nixternalyou know what..i just might12:48
lannyprobably not :-)12:48
h3sp4wnHow is the best way to disable the update manager and remove adept ?12:48
nixternali have been doing  new user netowrk client for most of the day12:48
DaSkreechapt-get remove adept?12:48
h3sp4wn(preferably keeping kubuntu-desktop)12:48
jaroany hints ??12:48
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nixternalthat isn't good jaro12:48
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jaroi wonder why noone else has this problem12:48
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jaroi cant find anything in goolge12:49
nixternalso when you get to the point of the screen setup using "advanced" it just goes blank12:49
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nixternalwhat laptop is it?12:49
DaSkreechjaro: have you tried #laptop?12:49
DaSkreech!laptop12:49
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org12:49
jaroAcer Aspire 135012:49
nixternalit is #ubuntu-laptop12:49
nixternaland i will be the one helping ;)12:49
jaro?12:49
nixternallol12:49
nixternalwhat model laptop jaro?12:49
jaromodel ?12:49
jaro1350 ?12:50
nixternalmake and model of your laptop12:50
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jarowhere can i find that ?12:50
nixternal1350..a in toshiba satellite 1350?12:50
abattoirnixternal:  [04:19:03]  <jaro> Acer Aspire 135012:50
nixternalwho makes your laptop, and what is the model number on the sticker12:50
abattoir:P12:50
nixternalahhhh12:50
nixternalthanks abattoir12:50
jaro;-)12:50
Cholito!amarok12:51
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php12:51
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CholitoI have amarok installed but I get no sound (XMMS works OK)12:51
Cholitoi just jumps to the next file without playing anything12:52
nixternalwhat a coincidence...that laptop has been tested with Ubuntu and works...now im trying to connect to the page and it is 40412:52
nixternalarg12:52
abattoirCholito: do you also have a sound engine installed?12:52
Cholitoabattoir: amarok-xine? yes12:52
abattoirCholito: you might also have to install extra codecs to play MP3s12:52
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jarohm yea i have read that it works with ubuntu12:52
DaSkreech!mp3  > Cholito12:52
abattoirCholito: i think libxine-extracodecs.....12:52
Cholitoabattoir: xmms plays mp3's, so amarok should work isn't it?12:53
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DaSkreechCholito: No XMMS has MP3 codecs built in12:53
Cholitoohhh12:53
Cholitoamarok should have it also ;)12:53
nixternalDaSkreech: you have that 110% correct12:53
nixternalubuntu docs everywhere12:53
jaroim helpless.. so far12:53
Cholitogive me 15 secs12:53
jaroabout that problem12:53
nixternalparaphenelia growing12:53
jaroI thought maybe if I knew the Monitor -Model, then I could configure properly..but I cant find any12:54
nixternalim tyring to get to this page jaro about that exact lappy and ubuntu12:54
Cholitoabattoir: that was the one man!12:54
nixternalbut it is dead12:54
Cholitoabattoir: thanks dude ;)12:54
abattoirCholito: no problem :)12:54
jarothanks :-)12:54
nixternaljaro: when you do12:54
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nixternalarg12:55
jaro?12:55
nixternaljaro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg12:55
jaroi did12:55
nixternaland you get to the monitor part..it goes black?12:55
javbHi, does anyone has a guide o know how to install Intel Graphics 915GM/910GML that comes integrated with DeLL B130 ? (of course, Kubuntu 6.06)12:55
jaroonly when I try to autodetect it12:55
nixternaldo expert through that portion, and just click yes for defaults12:55
jarook12:56
nixternallappy monitors don't always work well with autodetect i have noticed12:56
jaroand what values should I input ?12:56
nixternali will be afk for a few moments...as i will return shortly12:56
nixternalleave them default jaro12:56
jarohm ok12:57
nixternalwe can worry about monitor settings once we are back in kde, and can do it via system settings12:57
nixternalbrb12:57
jarobut i think there is no default for monitor settings in expert12:57
andrisphello all... how can i make my own menus in kde's panel ? I know there was an applet in earlier kde versions, but know i can't find it..12:57
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abattoirandrisp: kmenuedit12:57
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andrispabattoir: no, i don't want to customize kde menu, but make my own12:58
jarohm, there is a proble12:58
jarom12:58
jarowhen I run reconfigure now, it will use the plug-in-monitor instead of the lcd12:59
jaroso, when i restart without the other monitor, the ldc wont work anymore12:59
abattoirandrisp: cant you delete all the entries and make your own? :P12:59
abattoirandrisp: or am i not getting what you mean?12:59
andrispabattoir: yes :)12:59
abattoirandrisp: for the former or the latter? ;)01:00
andrispboth :)01:00
andrispbut01:00
roadrunnerhey, I have a Samsung Syncmaster 730b Flat Panel, and I couldn't find the real drivers for it. The generic ones that were loaded only allow it to display 1024x768, while the native resolution should be 1280x768. Is there any generic driver that will allow me to use the higher resolutions?01:01
nixternaljaro, you need to get you fn+f5 key setup working so you can get that issue solved01:01
omeowI have 2 Syncmaster 930BFs :)01:01
nixternalas you will continue to have this same issue until you can use the fn+f5 key correctly01:01
roadrunnerReally? How do you get them to display correctly?01:02
omeowThere are no drivers for it, the only thing you need to know is the horizontal and vertical refresh rates I think.01:02
nixternali have 4 955DF's01:02
nixternallol01:02
nixternalsyncmaster love01:02
andrispi want a button named Internet next to kde menu button and when i click it a little menu opens up with Konqueror, Koversation and other related things listed.01:02
nixternalNOT on 1 computer btw01:02
jaronixternal:  yeah i know..but how i can I solve fn+5 ?01:03
omeowI do have them hooked up to the same computer with a 6600GT.01:03
abattoirnixternal, jaro: i have an acer aspire... and all the fn keys work...01:03
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nixternalit should just work...as fn keys are hardware controlled01:03
jarohm01:03
jaromaybe you can help01:03
abattoirjaro: you can specify the keyboard model in kcontrol01:03
omeowAnyway roadrunner, you can find the manual for your monitor on the samsung site and it has a PDF with the technical specs. The rates should be listed there.01:03
jarohow did you get them to work ?01:03
jarowhat is the keyboard model ??01:03
DaSkreechOk I'm going to reboot01:03
nixternali have 5 lappys all different brands, makes and models...and all the keys work for me01:03
DaSkreechHopefully the computer will come back up01:03
roadrunneromeow: how would that help me with the resolution though? How would I go about configuring the default drivers to let me use higher resolutions?01:04
abattoirkcontrol->Region and Acces._>Keyboard Layout01:04
abattoirjaro choose the TM80001:04
jarook wait01:04
abattoirandrisp: oh like that? hmmm01:04
nixternalbut abattoir that would only make them work while in kde...mine work outside of kde..outside of Kubuntu even booting01:04
omeowroadrunner: I'm not quite sure about technical details. But I think the x-server calculates the maximum resolution that your monitor can display via the refresh rates.01:04
omeowAnd you can of course add them to your xorg.conf file.01:05
jaroi have got no TM800 to chose from01:05
abattoirnixternal: hmmm... i havent tested the others, but the Fn+< and Fn+> keys work even while booting(brightness)01:05
roadrunnerUm... Im a linux noob, I wouldn't know how to add me01:05
nixternalsame with me abattoir01:05
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omeow(xorg configuration is one of the most annoying things, in my opinion)01:06
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nixternalthats why i don't understand why they don't work for him..as the fn keys are hardwired keys01:06
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omeowuhm, let me digg up a command that does the reconfiguring.01:06
roadrunneromeow: However, I do know that resolution isn't determined by the refresh rate. I will check the manuals, but how would I configure it to allow 1280x1024?01:06
roadrunnersweet thanks01:06
nixternalall that key does is apply power, and remove power.../voltage /amperage /watts01:06
jarowell I had to use keytouch anyway to get acces to any such extrakeys01:06
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cyberquiethi01:07
nixternalsee..with my laptops and the 'fn+f5' combination...i can switch between laptop screen, external monitor, or have them both at the same time01:07
jarooh, you mean Acer Travel Mate 80001:07
jaroi can chose that01:07
omeowroadrunner: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:08
nixternalhi cyberquiet01:08
abattoirjaro: i too have an aspire, but that option works :)01:08
nixternalim thinking about getting an aspire, as tiger direct has one at the store in chicago for $250...15" screen at that01:08
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omeowIt gives you a text wizard that helps you configure your xorg server. (you can enter the refresh rates and select the resolutions you want)01:08
jarowhat is xkb option ?01:08
cyberquiettoday is my first day with kubuntu01:08
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jarook now i have chosen the Tm800 model01:08
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nixternalcongratulations cyberquiet01:09
abattoiri got it because it was the only Turion model available at that time :)01:09
cyberquietdidn't go straight as I hoped anyway01:09
nixternalcyberquiet: we just ask that you be patient with Kubuntu and give it the chance it so desires and deserves01:09
abattoirapart from the ferrari, of course01:09
omeowAnd you were right about the refresh rates not depending on resolution. I was thinking about something else. Each resolution can be added in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. But I believe if you finish that wizard I just gave you the command for, you should be good to go.01:09
nixternalit is easy to become adgetated with Kubuntu, or any Linux distrobution at hand, however, if you stick with it, and keep learning, I guarantee you will never look back!!!01:10
cyberquietI had to fix a problem with automounting of cdroms/dvd and with the ppp configuration01:10
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cyberquietand sometimes I get some weird errors on boot01:11
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roadrunneromeow: after I do that, then what should I type?01:13
omeowyou finished the wizard?01:14
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jarohey, what happens know after chosing that Keyboard Model ??01:14
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abattoirjaro: can you incs./decs. brightness of the screen?01:15
jarono01:15
DaSkreechIt didn't work01:15
jaroonly volume01:15
abattoirFn+Left/Right arrow01:15
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abattoirjaro: that's strange01:15
jaroonly Up+Down01:16
dueyfinsterHello all. I just bought a new computer and I am wondering, if like Windows you can "roam" accounts with Kubuntu? I have used Ubuntu/Kubuntu going on a year and a half and I am competent at Linux, how would this be done?01:16
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DaSkreechdueyfinster: Tell me more about this roaming01:16
abattoirjaro: and Fn+F5 still doesnt work?01:16
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jaroyes01:17
abattoirjaro: how about the other combinations? touchpad on/off;mute/unmute?01:17
dueyfinsterDaSkreech: What do you want to know?01:17
jaromute works01:17
abattoirjaro: screen backlight on/off?01:17
DaSkreechdueyfinster: Whats' Roaming?01:17
jarotouchpad on off too01:18
jarofn+F6 doesnt work either01:18
nixternaldueyfinster: are you talking roaming profiles on an active directory domain?01:18
nixternalor roaming as in wifi roaming?01:18
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jarothe Num works..01:19
dueyfinsterDaSkreech: Yes. I do that in work and I can get my desktop settings just the way I like, and then use samba's for filesharing.01:19
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jaroeven locking session works01:20
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DaSkreechWhats Roaming?01:20
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nixternaldueyfinster: so you are referring to the ad roaming then01:20
DaSkreechLook at what nixternal asked you01:20
abattoirjaro: its funny how some keys work and others dont01:20
nixternalso you can share all your desktop settings and what not?01:20
jarohm yea01:20
jarothats why im confused01:20
nixternallike wallpapers, icons, start menu and what not01:20
dueyfinsterDaSkreech: settings, like desktop background, menu's etc etc.01:21
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jarothere should be a plugin for keytouch concerning Fn-Keys.. but there is none on the Homepage of keytouch01:21
abattoirjaro: do the respectice function keys work independently?01:21
dueyfinsternixternal: I don't know01:21
DaSkreechdueyfinster: Yes you can. AD is essentailly a LDAP Server with pre built directories and a GUI management interface01:21
abattoir*respective01:21
jaroabattoir:  wich ones ?01:22
dueyfinsterDaSkreech: Cool so I just get ldap and its gui from repo's?01:22
abattoirthe ones whose combinations w/ Fn dont work, eg. F5, F601:22
roadrunneromeow: hey, sorry, I got caught up in that wizard, lol01:22
DaSkreechUmm You can get LDAP :) I've never tried for a GUI01:22
jaroi dont know if they work independently.. but i guess they should01:23
roadrunneromeow: but I am done now, and I configured everything to the specs, and set up the resolution, but It still isn't right in display settings01:23
omeowOk. After you finished it, you need to log out, and restart the x-server.01:23
nixternaldueyfinster: you can go that route, or you can use NFS and create auto.home files in /etc directory that will map to a server directory for you to keep all that info01:23
roadrunnerOh01:23
roadrunnerjust restart it, and then it should work?01:23
omeowYou can do this by just logging out, and there should be a button in the KDM login screen that says menu, it has an option for restarting the server.01:23
nixternalas a matter of fact..there used to be a page on the wiki that showed how to go about doing that01:23
omeowYeah, should do. (hopefully) :)01:23
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roadrunnerok, yeah, thanks for the help01:23
dueyfinsternixternal: Is it hard to do?01:23
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nixternalit isn't that it is hard, but it can be confusing01:24
nixternaland i even scared myself one time doing it as my system wouldn't boot cuz the server was wrong in the config..so it acted like i had no home directory01:24
dueyfinsternixternal: I understand, so I should check the wiki?01:24
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nixternalim trying to find a link..but yes search for NFS and you will find out what im talking about01:25
dueyfinsternixternal: and be careful obv.01:25
nixternaloh ya01:25
nixternalyou need to setup a NFS server somewhere..and then setup the client on all the machines you want using the roaming profiles01:25
nixternalhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo01:26
roadrunneromeow: hey, it didn't work01:26
jarowhat now ?01:26
nixternalread through that first b4 doing it01:26
omeowroadrunner: What do you see?01:26
roadrunneromeow: is there something I could have possibly done wrong? I went through that wizard just like you said, but 1280x1024 still doesnt show up when I go into the graphic settings01:26
dueyfinsternixternal: Thanks! Much appreiciated01:26
nixternalno problem dueyfinster...good luck with it01:27
DaSkreech!nfs01:27
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.01:27
nixternaland if it breaks..it's not my fault01:27
nixternalDaSkreech: a little late ;)01:27
roadrunneromeow: what do you mean? Am I not changing the resolution in the right place or something? I am doing it in System Setting>Display01:27
DaSkreechHow about those? :)01:27
nixternali forgot about that stinkin' bot sometimes01:27
omeowThat's fine.01:27
nixternalDaSkreech: they are the same thing, they will redirect him to the h.u.c/c01:27
omeowroadrunner: I hate to point new users to the terminal, but sometimes it's the only option. Can you perform the command "xrandr" and see if the resolution you want is listed there?01:27
roadrunneromeow: and the little slider bar only goes up to 1024x768 and a refresh rate of 61, when it should be 1280x1024 and a refresh rate of 7501:27
roadrunnerHey, I like the terminal. Good learning experience =D01:28
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roadrunnerI have been messing with the terminal for about 3 days straight. I had some major problems the other day with Adept flipping out on me01:28
omeowadept is shitty01:28
roadrunnerIm discovering that =D01:28
nixternal!language please01:28
ubotuI know nothing about language please01:28
nixternal!language01:29
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.01:29
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roadrunnerFor some reason a bunch of packages came back "Broken" and then even after I killed all adept processes, I still couldn't run certain programs because it said the process was in use or something01:29
RawSewagethat message needs editing01:29
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omeowlol waht??01:29
roadrunnerit was really flipping out on me ^_^01:29
HawkwindHah, the links for NFS that ubotu gives both go to the same page actually.  Someone should remove one of them01:29
DaSkreechroadrunner: try sudo dpkg --configure -a01:29
DaSkreechThat should fix it01:29
omeowAre you really pointing your bot to me for using the word shitty? I don't know how else to describe it. =P01:30
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roadrunnerwell, apprently it thought Adept or apt-get were always being used or something01:30
h3sp4wnomeow: Use aptitude or smart01:30
roadrunnerbut anywas, no, my resolution was not listed under xrandr01:30
roadrunnerIm guessing I did somethign wrong in that wizard then?01:30
RawSewageit says "Please watch your langage"01:30
jarocan anyone still help with that Fn#Key Problem ??01:30
RawSewageshould be language01:30
roadrunnerDaSkreech: what would that do?01:31
DaSkreechFix the problem01:31
roadrunnerDaSkreech: how would that fix my problem? I don't remember why, but I know I have ran that before... what does it do exactly?01:31
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DaSkreechIt finishes the configuration that dpkg was runing before and then releases the lock01:32
jakeany kde pros in here?01:32
DaSkreechIf the package manager breaks for some reason (Or the lights go off etc) that picks up where it left off01:32
DaSkreechUnless you were doing a dist-upgrade across a major upgrade01:32
DaSkreechthen you would need apt-get -f install01:33
roadrunnerwait, you are talking about my previous Adept problems aren't you?01:33
DaSkreechjake: I haven't gotten paid yet :(01:33
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roadrunnerIm having display trouble now... and omeow was helping me with that =D01:33
DaSkreechroadrunner: yes :)01:33
jakei need to figure out why my dual display works on the login screen for kde, but the second monitor is disabled when kde comes up01:33
roadrunneromeow: my resolution isn't listed... what should I do now? Re-run that wizard again?01:33
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jakedoes kde have its own specific settings for dual display i need to check out?01:33
DaSkreechI know so I wasn't interfering with that :) Just letting you know how to fix stuff if adept flips again01:33
omeowroadrunner: can you paste /etc/X11/xorg.conf to http://pastebin.ca ?01:33
roadrunnersure, just a minue01:34
jaroFn+F5 still wont wokr01:34
jakeDaSkreech, any idears?01:34
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jaro[17193502.064000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xa7 on isa0060/serio0).01:35
jaro[17193502.064000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e027 <keycode>' to make it known.01:35
jarodo I have to configure something here ?01:35
DaSkreechjake: Nope wanna try #kde?01:35
jaro:(01:37
roadrunneromeow: Ok, here you go http://pastebin.ca/7667501:37
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omeow*click*01:38
roadrunnerI think I saw the problem even... there weren't any entries in there for 1280x1024 or anything like that... but how do you go about fixing them? Can you just type them in by hand (In my case, using kate?) or do you have to use that wizard thingy01:38
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abattoirjaro: i get those errors too, but the keys work anyways01:39
jarohmm01:39
jarowhat else might work then ?01:39
omeowroadrunner: You can just add the resolutions in front of what's already there.01:39
roadrunnersame thing with the refresh rates?01:39
omeowhttp://pastebin.ca/7667601:40
omeowThat should do it.01:40
omeowSee what I changed?01:40
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roadrunnerhey, real quick then, could I have you do me another huge favor? Check this out01:40
roadrunnerhttp://linux.wordpress.com/2006/06/06/tip-my-logitech-mx700-mouse-with-linux-and-firefox/01:40
roadrunnerthat is the same mouse as I have, and it makes me mad that the thumb buttons don't work... is this config file where I add the stuff he says to add?01:41
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omeowI haven't configured my MX510 either. =/01:41
omeowBut yeah.01:41
roadrunnerbecause I use those buttons to navigate all the time, and supposedly that is supposed to fix it... would you be able to enter that in the file for me by any chance and then upload it?01:41
omeowSame file. Different section of course.01:41
afm\colossusevdev and xorg 7.0 take care of this automagically01:41
afm\colossuseverything is working ootb for me, without interaction01:42
afm\colossus(i'm on gentoo, though)01:42
omeowJust put it under InputDevice, it's not that hard. :)01:42
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omeowafm\colossus: I guess binding stuff to the mouse buttons works fine with a nice graphical UI too? =P01:42
roadrunnerjust that one entry will fix it?01:42
DaSkreechafm\colossus: Gentobuntu?01:42
roadrunnerbecause look at my output compared to his... they don't look the exact same01:42
roadrunnerthat was why I was worried01:42
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omeowYeah, that one option should do the trick I think.01:42
afm\colossusomeow: theoretically, yes01:43
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afm\colossusxev reports unique events for each button01:43
afm\colossusDaSkreech: huh?01:43
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omeowroadrunner: might want to add the Option "Buttons" "7" too01:43
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jaro.-(((((((((((((((((01:43
roadrunnerand then that should do it? will I need to log out and then back in or anything, or are changes in linux instant01:43
DaSkreechafm\colossus: tESING YOU01:43
DaSkreechTeasing even01:43
omeowstill need to reload the server again01:44
afm\colossusroadrunner: you need to restart X1101:44
omeowHopefully that will change in the future.01:44
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abattoirjaro: sorry i cant help you more :(01:44
jaroits a tough problem01:44
omeowx configuration has been rather stupid for years, because development was rather stale.01:44
abattoirjaro: because all the keys work fine for me01:44
roadrunnerX11 is just the GUI?01:44
roadrunnerSee, I am A+ certified, so Im not a noob with computers and terms... just with Linux terms =D01:45
afm\colossusyes01:45
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afm\colossushttp://gnulords.org/~colo/dotfiles/desktop/etc/X11/xorg.conf - this used to be my corg.conf for X11 R6.8.201:47
noiesmoi am tring to get my laptop to tftpboot from my kubuntu system it finds the dhcp server and says loading pxelinux.0 but nothing else happens any ideas01:47
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afm\colossushttp://gnulords.org/~colo/dotfiles/desktop/etc/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap - and this the xmodmap grammar01:47
afm\colossusto make an mx510 work correctly with all 10 buttons01:48
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ChrisCoolieHello again [tm Howie (a Schlager)] 01:48
roadrunnerdah, one last question01:48
roadrunnersince my refresh rates aren't listed by default... do I just change01:49
roadrunnerHorizSync28-5101:49
roadrunnerVertRefresh43-6001:49
abattoir!language > abattoir01:49
omeowAre those from the manual of your monitor?01:49
roadrunnerHorizontal is supposed to be 81, and Vertical is supposed to be 7501:49
roadrunner81 / 75 are01:49
roadrunnerI checked the specs01:49
roadrunnerthe lines above were copy/pasted from my current xorg.conf file01:49
afm\colossusyeah, just change them to fit your need01:50
DaSkreechYeah ubotu tell him about his langage!!01:50
roadrunnerIt doesn't need a range? Just the exact rate?01:50
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ChrisCoolieQ: my DSL provider doesnt 'hold the line' without any traffic from my side. which tool e.g. takes some? Kopete doesnt run all the time01:50
roadrunnerbecause they had a range in there now... I didn't know if it made a difference or not01:50
abattoirDaSkreech: just checking if it had been changed :)01:50
omeowI use 30-81 for horizontal and 56-75 for vertical01:50
roadrunnerok, thanks01:51
omeowI have a different screen though.01:51
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omeowYou could also say Option          "HorizSync"        "UseEdidFreqs" (same for vert) and it'll autodetect the ranges I think.01:51
sonic_Hi guys. Can anyont help me with my system mail. It doesn't seem to be functioning01:52
sonic_mutt isn't being recognised01:52
sonic_(The command)01:52
roadrunneruhg... also, in that other config (Back to the mouse problem)...01:52
ChrisCoolieor, which command (in the shell) helps or which file should i edit for generating traffic01:52
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roadrunnermine has an entry that says "Option"Emulate3Buttons""true" and his doesn't... will this make a difference?01:53
noiesmoi am tring to get my laptop to tftpboot from my kubuntu system it finds the dhcp server and says loading pxelinux.0 but nothing else happens any ideas01:53
DaSkreechYes it will01:53
DaSkreech It will make yours emulate three buttons and his will not01:53
roadrunnerWhat does it mean? Why would mine have to "emulate" 3 buttons? It has three buttons >_>01:53
omeowEmulate 3 buttons means that clicking left and right at the same time will be the same as the middle mouse.01:54
afm\colossusyou better delete that line01:54
roadrunnerok01:54
DaSkreechroadrunner: That makes it so that if you press Button ! and Button 2 at teh same time it counts a Button 301:54
roadrunnerI don't really need it anyways then if I have a middle click then, correct?01:54
DaSkreechRight01:54
ChrisCoolieWhich file entry in /etc generates a little bit traffic?01:54
roadrunnerthanks for putting up with my stupidity =D01:54
RawSewageThere's a master list of monitors01:54
RawSewageit tells you the settings01:54
RawSewageI forgot the URL01:54
omeowYou're hardly stupid, roadrunner.01:55
omeowxorg configuration is just awkward.01:55
ChrisCooliefriday morning i used: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ;)01:56
khaije1strange question: is kde generally slower than gnome?01:56
khaije1i've seen gnome referenced as being slightly "lighter" than kde in a few places01:56
DaSkreechnot much01:56
h3sp4wnI think kde run's faster (at least on my hardware)01:57
DaSkreechPlus you can strip out a whole slew of things inKDE if you like01:57
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DaSkreechVisually though gnome is lighter01:57
ChrisCooliebefore that, go to Text mode Ctrl+Alt+F201:57
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khaije1gnome has always seems slower to me01:57
h3sp4wngnome has loads of stuff written in mono01:57
khaije1DaSkreech: but i mean performance-wise like if i was working with old eqpt01:57
crimsungnome as shipped in ubuntu?01:58
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khaije1ya01:58
DaSkreechWell Vector Linux ships with KDE I think that says a lot01:58
crimsungnome as shipped in ubuntu doesn't have dependencies on mono01:58
khaije1i'm working with a volunteer computer rebuild program01:58
DaSkreechgnomefreak: Still can't get KDE booted? :-)01:58
gnomefreakDaSkreech: yeah its fixed im working on other crap atm01:58
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khaije1all the computers are old, i wasn't really familiar with xubuntu, which is supposed to be even lighter than kde/gnome01:59
DaSkreechSo not /nicking to kdefreak? :)01:59
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gnomefreaknone of the 25 cds i have will install01:59
DaSkreechSee shuld have gotten 36 :-)01:59
gnomefreaknot atm having other issues that need to be taken care of first01:59
khaije1gnomefreak: are you installing fedora core 6?01:59
ChrisCooliekubuntu will survive on this harddisk, but it has too much of the 80 GB01:59
khaije1^_^02:00
gnomefreakDaSkreech: 25 is highest at time i ordered02:00
gnomefreakkhaije1: hell no02:00
DaSkreechChrisCoolie: I would bet most of that is your /home02:00
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gnomefreakbbl02:01
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DaSkreechok02:01
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Where is a good place where you can download .deb games?02:01
LiNuX_LoVeR_17?02:02
BlankBLiNuX_LoVeR_17: they are mostly in the normal repositories.02:03
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ok02:03
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lin0xis it possible to play java games on my pc? (.jar and .jad). i have downloaded a few from a p2p network and i want to select the best of the games before i put them on my nokia.02:04
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ChrisCooliehda12 is 13 GB ext3, and hda7 ist 13 GB FAT3202:04
DaSkreechLiNuX_LoVeR_17: What games are you looking for?02:04
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apollin0x: I don't think you can02:05
abattoirlin0x: maybe through a J2ME emulator02:05
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ChrisCoolieboth is likely as a /home.02:05
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Like FPS and Strategy games like Age Of Empires02:05
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abattoirlin0x: i dont know if one exists though :P02:05
DaSkreechYay netsplit02:05
thunderboltLiNuX_LoVeR_17: I personally find freeciv really fun.02:06
thunderboltit's turn based, though02:06
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ya02:06
ChrisCoolieBut Kubuntu's installer did'nt integrated hda1302:06
thunderboltfor RTS, your best bet is Stratagus.02:06
thunderboltAssuming you want something running natively02:06
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Well I have nexuiz02:06
lin0xapol: "N-gage cool" does the job for windows. but i dont want to run that system.. i still want my hard disc and microprocessor working...02:06
LiNuX_LoVeR_17and it is a good game02:07
DaSkreechLiNuX_LoVeR_17: I like Globulation as well02:07
DaSkreechnexuiz is FPS02:07
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Ya I know02:07
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DaSkreechthere are a bunch of good ones out now :-)02:07
OODenemy territory and tremulous are great fps's as well definitely worth checking out02:08
DaSkreechLiNuX_LoVeR_17: You may want to hang out on happypenguin.org :)02:08
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ok02:08
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I also want a Guitar tuner02:08
omeowI really love OpenMortal, TappyTux and TuxFighter.02:08
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17On linux but I can't seem to find one in .deb format02:08
omeowThose are my favorites!02:08
DaSkreechWhats' TappyTux?02:08
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omeowhttp://happypenguin.org/show?TappyTux02:09
omeowhttp://happypenguin.org/show?TuxFighter02:09
omeowhttp://happypenguin.org/show?OpenMortal02:09
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omeowREAL linux games!02:09
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OODno thanks, i'd rather have some real windows games02:10
OODyou can't argue with that, windows games are just better02:10
OODbut that's about all that windows has :D02:10
omeowbut r tey open sauwze???02:10
omeowI guess not!02:10
h3sp4wnmame has got the best games02:10
omeowThat's a requirement for games on lunix u kno? =P02:10
eduOOD: do you know where could I get Cedega? Thnx02:10
omeowOk, enough with my mocking. :)02:10
thunderboltScorched3D is really good02:11
thunderboltvegastrike.02:11
OODedu: http://www.transgaming.com/02:11
OODi find wine better though02:11
DaSkreechthunderbolt: Ooooooo Scorched #d02:11
DaSkreech3d02:11
DaSkreechI beat BOR last night02:11
eduOOD: Thanks, but I can't download it from there02:11
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OODyou have to buy it, i think they took the cvs down02:11
DaSkreechomeow: YOu know that's not true :)02:12
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omeowI was using an overdose of sarcasm with my last 6 lines.02:12
OODomewo: TA Spring is a good open source windows game :D02:12
OODbut it works in wine02:12
omeowDaSkreech: Try this mod for UT2004. http://blackcatgames.com/swarm/info02:16
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DaSkreechHave it :02:16
DaSkreechHave you tried jailBreak?02:16
OODnice02:16
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omeowNo. May I ask your opinion about Alien Swarm? :)02:17
omeow(I was shameless plugging =P)02:17
omeow*shamelessly02:17
noiesmoi am tring to get my laptop to tftpboot from my kubuntu system it finds the dhcp server and says loading pxelinux.0 but nothing else happens any ideas02:17
DaSkreechDifficult game to get into. Very Moody Great if you have people who can play with you02:17
noiesmohmmm my laptops doing the etherboot finds dhcp server and says its loading pxelinux.0 but not much happens02:17
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ChrisCooliei tried Dapper's DVD text mode installer, but there was a failure in a late stage. the grapical one (from Live-Boot Module) wasn't very intelligent02:18
larson9999Hawkwind: get smp working?02:18
omeowDaSkreech: I'm going to play through the campaigns with a couple of friends some day. Want me to give you a poke when we're going to do that? You could join up or something.02:19
Hawkwindlarson9999: It worked from the original install without problems02:19
ChrisCoolieso, my special prepared partition for home isn't incorporated02:19
DaSkreechomeow: Ha Maybe Doubt it though my machine is in shambples02:19
larson9999Hawkwind: just curious because someone is asking about it and pentium-d in #ubuntu02:20
DaSkreechDratted XGL :(02:20
omeowI thought you were firing UT2004 up? ;-)02:20
DaSkreechChrisCoolie: ok02:20
DaSkreechomeow: In my head  :'(02:20
omeowYeah, I tried XGL once, it was fun, but then decided not to bother with it. I had no need for it. (yet)02:20
omeowThey should make it more stable and stuff first.02:21
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DaSkreechWell yeah it's just out of pre-alpha :)02:21
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DaSkreechIt will probably ship before Vista though ;-)02:21
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ChrisCooliethe way to move a home embedded in / in an own partition isn't trivial.02:22
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omeowI doubt it'll ship, DaSkreech. =P02:23
ChrisCoolie"su -" should be done as first, but killall xserver02:23
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OODit will eventually, it will just suck too much for anyone to bother upgrading, it'll just be installed on OEMs02:24
omeowHm, maybe they will. Depending on if Ubuntu gets released with the stuff enabled by default or at least easy to enable.02:24
DaSkreechomeow: Ok be usable :) It cant' >actualy< ship since it breaks GPL02:24
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larson9999DaSkreech: there are a couple sites that make it pretty easy. this one helped: http://web.informbank.com/articles/technology/perfect-linux-desktop.htm02:26
DaSkreechlarson9999: Eh?02:28
larson9999OOD: no way in heck am i touching vista...  maybe for work.  that's got to be a bigger cash cow that the othere versions of windows has been for me02:28
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jjacksoni just wish reactos were further along. now that's a cool project02:29
OODit's cool, but wine's better02:29
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larson9999jjackson: reactos is moving along but i'm not too convinced it will get there soon enough02:30
roadrunnerhey guys, I got another real quick question... my Nvidia driver's fail installation because it says it needs the "libc Devlopers Pack" which contains a comman "cc" or something like that... what would this pack be called?02:31
roadrunnerI couldn't find it... I installed one that I thought was correct, but apparently it wasn't because I get the same error02:31
larson9999jjackson: and by the time it is, wine might be just as good.  then what's the point?02:31
OODhow are you trying to install it roadrunner?02:31
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roadrunnerI downloaded the linux drivers for my card right off the official site, because the Easy ubuntu drivers didn't work02:31
omeowroadrunner: All you have to install is nvidia-glx (assuming you want the good driver) and linux-restricted modules for your card.02:31
OODthat's gonna be difficult to do02:32
jjacksonthe point is this: i build / fix computers for people who will never run linux. i dont have enterprise agreement with MS to sell windows on these machines02:32
omeowerr, card==kernel02:32
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OODtry this: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx02:32
roadrunnerso I just saved the drivers and now just used sh drivername to install02:32
larson9999roadrunner: the easyubuntu should work02:32
OODthen sudo nvidia-xconfig02:32
OODsudo apt-get install nvidia-glx*02:32
omeowI never bothered with that.02:32
larson9999roadrunner: which kernel?02:32
roadrunnerwhat is that going to do? what is nvidia-glx?02:32
omeowThe driver.02:32
OODthe nvidia driver module02:32
roadrunnerI just downloaded the newest driver off of their website02:33
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OODdon't bother02:33
OODyou'd have to compile the module for that02:33
larson9999omeow: not only restrcted but restricted in security if it's the newest kernel02:33
OODjust run those 2 commands02:33
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omeow*shrug*02:33
roadrunnerI think it is the newest... I just installed 2 days ago, lol02:33
larson9999omeow: that cost me a couple hours of my life :)02:33
roadrunner2.6 is it? Or something like that... where do you check?02:33
larson9999uname -r02:33
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roadrunneryup, 2.602:34
roadrunnerand easy ubuntu didn't work. Everything is all laggy still.02:34
roadrunnerLike, even moving a window around jitters... just like if you had no drivers at all02:34
OODbecause you dont02:34
omeowthat's because you seem to be using the vesa driver.02:34
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roadrunnerof course, all of my experience is with windows, so I was just assuming the drivers were installed wrong02:34
larson9999roadrunner: this site is step by step.  add restricted to security if you have kernel 2.6.15-25 http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=371302:35
roadrunnerlarson, youll have to pardon me for a moment... not to be run, but Im going to try one at a time =D02:35
roadrunnerOOD, I am going to run your commands right now02:35
roadrunnerok, OOD, now what should I do?02:36
OODdid you finish both commands?02:36
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roadrunneryes sir02:36
roadrunnerUsing X configuration file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf".02:36
roadrunnerBacked up file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf' as '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'02:36
roadrunnerNew X configuration file written to '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'02:36
roadrunnerthat was the output when I was done02:36
OODk02:36
OODthen just restart X: command restartx02:37
OODjust restartx02:37
OODwithouth the command part ;)02:37
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larson9999got that command right :)02:37
OODyea lol02:38
RawSewagewhat are you trying to do02:38
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RawSewageget Compiz running?02:38
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OODlets hope he comes back02:38
OODhe's back :D02:38
RawSewagewhat are you trying to do02:38
RawSewageget Compiz running?02:38
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roadrunnerlol02:38
OODno, just the nvidia driver, roadrunner: better?02:38
roadrunneryeah, I'm here02:38
RawSewagedoh02:38
roadrunnerhm... I think. It is still mildy jittery at times (Just when moving windows quickly) is this normal?02:39
RawSewageI just did it the other day02:39
roadrunnerAre there any 3d games I can download through Adept or something to test it?02:39
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RawSewagedid you see the NVidia splash screen02:39
jjacksonanyone know if its possible to get a magicolor 2400w printer working on kbuntu? i installed it with printer installer but when i hit test nothing prints02:39
roadrunneryeah, it flashed real quick02:39
OODdo glxgears02:39
roadrunnerI just want to make sure it works alright02:39
OODits working if you got the logo02:39
roadrunnerI just want to see what it can do now, lol02:40
RawSewagetest one of the cool screensavers02:40
larson9999try glxgears02:40
DaSkreechWhat the dickens?02:40
roadrunnerso... I was just looking for some 3d graphics to play around with... where can you get some 3d games anyways?02:40
RawSewagelike Fireworks02:40
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RawSewageis glxgears that Wheelo thing02:40
roadrunnerwhere can I download glxgears at?02:40
=== OOD OOD says it's time to upgrade to dapper :D
OODit's a command you run02:40
OODyou'll get spinnin gears :D02:40
roadrunneroh02:41
roadrunnerLOL02:41
larson9999roadrunner planet-racer (sp) or chromium seem to be the common ones02:41
roadrunnerI see now02:41
RawSewagecool02:41
roadrunnerI thought it was a game, lol02:41
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OODlol02:41
roadrunnerlarson9999: where would I go about downloading these?02:41
roadrunnerlarson9999: can you get them through adept or something, or where do you get them?02:41
larson9999yeah02:41
OODnexuiz, tremulous and wolfenstein enemy territory are good fps games02:41
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roadrunnerWolfenstien you have to buy tho... lol. Im looking for something free I can play right now just to test it out02:42
DaSkreechWhy can't I copy files from one partition to another?02:42
OODwolfenstein enemy territory is free02:42
larson9999apt-get install chromium02:42
OODbut it's a 250 meg download02:43
roadrunnerreally? Wow. Where can I get Wolfenstein, I have played it before, it's cool02:43
roadrunnerI played it on windows02:43
larson9999there are a couple cool fps on linux game tomb02:43
OODenemy territory is multiplayer only02:43
fyrmedicWhere do I change the name of the workgroup for my local network?02:43
larson9999roadrunner: googe the linux game tomb for a decent site for linux games02:43
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DaSkreechhttp://www.happypenguin.org02:44
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DaSkreech!games02:44
ubotuInformation about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php02:44
larson9999jjackson: lost a lot of sleep to that one02:44
ubuntu_ya d franc ici??02:45
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eduh3sp4wn: thank u very much!!02:45
ubuntu_nick Nikof02:45
DaSkreech!fr > ubuntu_02:45
h3sp4wnedu: no probs02:45
jjacksonhehe. played doom also, but had a special boot disk for it to get 600+k conventional mem02:46
DaSkreechOk so back on topic02:46
DaSkreech Why can't I copy files from one partition to another?02:46
DaSkreechAnd not all files just some random files02:46
roadrunnererm... Im not seeing where I can download Wolfenstein02:46
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OODhere are a bunch of iD torrents, get the et-linux-2.60.x86.run one: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com:6969/02:47
DaSkreechZerowing?02:47
jjacksonhttp://download.softpedia.ro/linux/games/et-linux-2.60.x86.run02:48
roadrunnerwhat is this file you are telling me to download?02:48
roadrunnerthe .run file?02:49
OODwolfensteing enemy territory02:49
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roadrunnerok, then after I download, I just sh filename ?02:50
OODyea02:51
larson9999jjackson: sure, doom was really neat.  i lost ALL my sleep to it02:51
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roadrunneroh crap... that .run is a torrent file though... so how do you open that file in bittorrent (Or whatever kubuntu's client is)02:51
roadrunnerbecause it didn't automatically have "open with" I had to save the torrent file...02:52
OODktorrent is the program02:52
roadrunnerokay, I got it... wow, that's a fast download... for some reason, I could never get any Bittorrent client to ever work with Windows02:53
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roadrunnermy router seemed to hate it. Thats why I said crazp when I realized it was a torrent file... this is great, I can finally download torrents >_<02:53
roadrunneris there a way to get Doom 3 for linux too?02:54
roadrunnerwithout paying... lol.02:54
OODwolfensteind enemy territory is freeware02:55
OODyou can get a demo of doom3 at the link02:56
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roadrunneruhg02:56
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roadrunnerstupid thing crashed02:56
larson9999i heard the demo is all about all you'd want to play of doom3d02:57
roadrunnerbut anways... you said you can play Wolfenstein online for free?02:57
larson9999roadrunner: there are several nice fps for free on linux02:57
roadrunnerDoom 3?02:57
larson9999nope02:57
roadrunnerlol02:57
larson9999the demo though02:57
roadrunnerI didn't think Wolf was free though... because it wasn't for windows =D02:57
roadrunnernow I have another noob question then... can Linux players play against Windows players?02:58
OODit is, this is a different only multiplayer version02:58
OODyes02:58
roadrunnerok, cool02:58
OODotherwise it02:58
OODit'd be like 2 on 2 :D02:58
roadrunnerI figured since the used the same network protocols and everything they should02:58
roadrunnerbut no harm in asking...02:58
BlankBlarson9999: what are those nice fps for linux?02:58
larson9999BlankB: well, here we get to see if my tastes pass muster02:59
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larson9999BlankB: i like cube, Argonium, Legends, sauerbraten, Tremulous as a list of a few03:04
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BlankBlarson9999: thanks. I will look into those. What about RTS games. You have any favs?03:04
OODlarson9999: hey i think i've seen you on trem before03:05
larson9999OOD: was i the badass?03:05
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OODmaybe, i can't remember03:05
larson9999if not it wasn't me :)03:05
OOD:P03:05
BlankBlarson9999: legends looks cool...reminds me of something.03:06
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ChrisCoolieI _can_ copy /home embedded in / to a new partition, but how to integrate as a new partition /home?03:08
ChrisCoolie... without breaking profiles?03:09
larson9999BlankB: i'm not big on rts.  can't really recommend any.  i didn't lie one i played about viruses.  forgot the name.03:09
larson9999BlankB: truth be told, i don't get much game time these days so i might play a game for 30 minutes or so03:10
BlankBlarson9999: gotcha. I only play a few hours on the weekends myself. But this a a long weekend.03:10
larson9999BlankB: and i'm usually on the trailing edge on games.  but i do know linux is now totally fulfulling to me in the game area.03:10
larson9999BlankB: meaning i have more than enough games to play that are free as in free beer and fun to boot on linux03:11
BlankBlarson9999: thanks again for the tips on those fps games. I didnt know they existed.03:12
talaxorhmm, somehow i broke access to my windows partition. i can only access /media/windows as root03:12
larson9999BlankB: check up happypenguin.org and give it look through03:12
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larson9999talaxor: happens to me all the time.  what filesystem is it?03:13
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DaSkreechlarson9999: get Kobos :-)03:13
ChrisCooliei would try: Ctrl+Alt+F2; login root (i did sudo passwd root yesterday); killall xserver-xorg;mount -t ext3 /hda13 /dev/mnt;cp /home/* /mnt03:13
talaxorntfs i think03:13
DaSkreechGreat for 5 minute games and it saves your progress so you can pick up two months down the line and still feel accomplished :)03:14
larson9999talaxor: i think by default it's root only.  but i don't have ntfs so i'm not sure03:14
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ChrisCoolieand know, how do i set the access rights for the directories correct?03:14
lwizardlhi03:14
larson9999DaSkreech: i'll check that out03:14
DaSkreechKObo Deluxe I think it's called03:14
talaxoryeah, i tried chmod with no success03:14
lwizardlis there a program i can use to convert xvids to dvd in ubuntu?03:14
BlankBDaSkreech: do you have a url for that?03:14
DaSkreechBlankB: Apt-get install ?03:15
DaSkreechlwizardl: I would guess k3b03:15
BlankBDaSkreech: I was looking for kobos instead of kobo03:15
talaxornm, found answer in forums03:15
DaSkreechsorry I just checked :-)03:15
lwizardlDaSkreech, including making a menu not just the file as a data disc03:16
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ChrisCoolieDaSkreech: what do you think about my 'simple' command line?03:16
DaSkreechlwizardl: Out of my league :-) That's why I have friends with Macs :)03:16
DaSkreechChrisCoolie: I wasn't paying attention what now?03:17
larson9999DaSkreech: i'm totally new at that but i've been looking at how to convert vcd to dvd and dvdauthor says it can do that03:17
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DaSkreechWe need a linux doom9.org :-(03:18
larson9999oops lwizardl: i'm totally new at that but i've been looking at how to convert vcd to dvd and dvdauthor says it can do that03:18
larson9999talaxor: what was the answer?03:19
lwizardllarson9999, hmm well i'm wanting to go from avi (divx/xvid) to a dvd video disc03:19
larson9999lwizardl: check out dvdauthor03:19
ChrisCooliethe topic was: how do i move /dev from hda3 to hda1303:19
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ChrisCoolienot /dev /home03:19
ChrisCooliethat fas very funny :D03:20
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ChrisCoolieoh, seems i need sleep03:20
DaSkreechYou copy the contents of the home folder to the partiton and then enter then new mount point in your /etc/fstab03:20
ChrisCoolieand the access rights? will they copied well as should?03:21
HawkwindIf you use the correct cp command they will be03:21
Hawkwindcp -a /old/path /new/path will be good03:21
ChrisCooliewhcih command should this be?03:22
ChrisCooliethanks03:22
ChrisCooliei try03:22
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ChrisCooliethe only problem could be: size.03:23
talaxormount -t ntfs -o ro,noauto,umask=022 /dev/hda1 /media/cdrive03:24
dr_willis'its not the size of your tool...'03:24
dr_willis:)03:24
ChrisCooliemaybe i install etch at end of this year, then i need a partition for it (besides /home, and Kubuntu, of course).03:25
talaxori have a bunch of anime mp3's on that drive and got them into amarok03:25
ChrisCoolie@talaxor: you wrote "-t ntfs". if is this the file system than its root03:26
ChrisCoolieAs also in Sarge03:27
ChrisCoolie... of Debian03:27
talaxori followed the instructions here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29193&highlight=ntfs03:27
RawSewageanyone here running XGL03:28
DaSkreech!xgl03:29
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:29
ChrisCoolieouch, K3b loaded here in case of fireing that URI03:29
ChrisCoolietalaxor, works that as it should?03:31
talaxorit seems to. i can access my ntfs drive from normal user konqueror03:31
ChrisCooliebut at this time ntfs rw restricted in linux03:32
ChrisCoolieits experimental!03:32
ChrisCoolieso, ro is better03:32
talaxork. i dont intend to write anything to it03:33
RawSewagehm03:33
DaSkreechI can't copy files that I own to a partition. What's up?03:33
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RawSewageDo I dare try XGL03:33
ChrisCoolieNTFS write access is meant03:33
DaSkreechis that rhetorical?03:33
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ChrisCoolieharhar03:33
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talaxori'm tempted to reverse engineer ntfs.sys myself. i mean, how bad could it be?03:34
ChrisCooliei read 3 month before the docs of ntfs-utils03:34
ChrisCooliethat is be done of ntfs-utils developers03:35
swhalenanyone know how to install ivtv?03:35
ChrisCoolieor is in doing03:35
ChrisCooliewant you be a member of them, talaxor?03:35
ChrisCooliei am not03:36
talaxormaybe one of these days. i'm not a kernel level hacker type. i write C#code at work all day03:37
ChrisCooliesearch /usr/share/docs for "ntfs". you should find a little bit about the team03:37
ChrisCoolie/usr/share/doc03:38
roadrunnerHowdy again... now I have a sound issue. Anyone care to listen?03:38
ChrisCooliethere exist Captive-NTFS. It's a Linux wrapper over the M$-Libraries ;)03:39
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roadrunnerI can hear sound and stuff fine. I have watched DVD's, watched online cartoons, and heard other sounds and stuff... However, I have never technically installed the proper drivers (Im just using whatever generic drivers were auto installed)03:39
talaxori see over on linux-ntfs.org they are really making progress toward proper ntfs write support.03:39
roadrunnernow, however, when I go to play Wolfenstein, there is absolutely no sound. Why would this be? If sound works everywhere else? Would it be a driver problem?03:39
h3sp4wnIf you add another entry to /usr/share/xsessions does kdm pick it up automatically ?03:39
DaSkreechtalaxor: Mono?03:40
talaxorfraid not, VS 2005. I only use linux at home.03:40
h3sp4wnWhat about captive-ntfs03:41
ChrisCoolieand it seems M$ doesnt write a new fs for future in the next few days03:41
roadrunneranyone have any idea what the cause and solution to my problem might be?03:41
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ChrisCoolieit's part of some special distris03:42
DaSkreechtalaxor: Mono is not a Linux technology03:42
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talaxori know about mono. just never had a chance to play with it.03:42
talaxordid they ever get a working System.Windows.Forms namespace together?03:42
ChrisCoolieCaptive-NTFS loads the Win-Libraries (it needs the original ones)03:42
DaSkreechOK It's very good :) and pretty easy for .NET type folks to jump into03:42
talaxorbtw roadrunner, i just launch wolfenstein and i got sound :)03:43
ChrisCoolieonly the ones for NTFS support, from 2k and XP03:43
h3sp4wnroadrunner: Try disabling artsd - Sounds and Multimedia -> Sound System - > (untick) Enable the sound system then sound should work with wolfenstein03:45
larson9999the ntfs driver gparted uses is supposed to be rock solid.  i've used in to resize ntfs partitions and haven't had a problem yet.03:45
ChrisCoolieCaptive-NTFS is (as far is i know) free, but of course it doesnt makes it legable without a win-license03:46
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ChrisCoolie... of W2k and higher.03:47
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ChrisCooliebut would its developers support Vista *beg*03:48
talaxorVista still uses ntfs from the betas i've played with.03:49
talaxorwinfs was shelved again03:49
ChrisCooliei heard about. So NTFS has future?03:49
talaxoryep03:50
talaxorwinfs was just a lite sql database for an index03:50
talaxorntfs isnt going anywhere03:50
ChrisCoolieMy PC has either no future or in future no Windows.03:50
talaxorif i could get my printer working in linux that'd be all i'd need to dump windows03:51
DaSkreech!printing03:51
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows03:51
ChrisCoolieIts main components are from Jan 200003:51
CheeseBurgerMantalaxor: what printer?03:51
RawSewageI switched 100% Windows to 100% Kubuntu last month03:51
roadrunnerh3sp4wn: hey, that didn't work. I still have no sound, and yet other sounds are playing still03:51
talaxormagicolor 2400w. listed in printer install wizard, but doesnt print test page or anything else03:51
h3sp4wnroadrunner: Out of ideas03:51
roadrunnerhm03:52
roadrunnerit's weird... sound works in everything else but a program like Wolfenstein03:52
talaxorhere's a forum page with more info bout my printer stuff: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=159904&highlight=2400w03:52
DaSkreechRawSewage: That's A pretty complete switch :)03:52
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ChrisCoolie' have ntfs only for restricted users in Win's partitions...03:52
RawSewageyep03:53
ChrisCooliea ran also wfw 3.11 ;)03:53
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roadrunnerwhat does disabling the sound system do?03:54
ChrisCoolieit goes very well on my K6-2 50003:54
DaSkreechOMG You have one?03:54
ChrisCoolieDaSkreech: do you mean _me_?03:55
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ChrisCoolieIts my Desktop!03:55
DaSkreechMan I loved the K6-203:56
ChrisCoolieHere and now, i will look for a simple command-line output about my hardware03:56
roadrunnerwould anyone know why sound works fine in everything but games?03:58
ChrisCooliewhat is your actual hardware?03:58
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talaxorhmm, just found howto for compiling a driver that's supposed to work with my printer03:59
roadrunnerAsus P4P-800 E Deluxe motherboard with onboard sound03:59
ChrisCooliemy motherboard was too reduced to that processor...03:59
ChrisCooliewas <-- is03:59
ChrisCoolieno money for upgrading in a new board/cpu / graphic card04:00
RawSewageIm following this:  http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632   to see if I can get XGL/Compiz working04:00
ChrisCooliethe only disadvantage could be the missing downwoard-compability of the new hardware04:01
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ChrisCooliei doesnt like to run the wfw 3.11 on the 486DX100 --> this one should be formed to a server in future04:03
ChrisCoolieat the moment, all cards are out of the 486...04:03
ChrisCoolieit had much Ampere's or something i don't know - bad or no function04:05
ChrisCooliebut know, i stop the hardware monologue04:05
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roadrunneruhg... I don't think any of my USB ports are working... nothing seems to be recognized when I plug it in... how would I go about checking this?04:07
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ChrisCoolieUSB is implemented, but often a problem...04:08
roadrunner... how do I check to see if it is even recognized by Kubuntu?04:08
ChrisCooliejust a second04:08
dr_willisroadrunner,  plug somthing in/out check dmesg output in terminal04:09
ph4t-ph4nt0mhey all04:09
dr_willis'dmesg' command04:09
ChrisCooliestick, mouse, mp3?04:09
ph4t-ph4nt0mok, so i got my machine up and running by installing a linksys nic i had laying around.  now i have my dual monitor to set up.  anyone else have dualies set up on their Kubuntu desktop?04:10
unix_infidelhey dr_willis04:10
dr_willisHowdies04:10
dr_williswifes jukebox is messing up..04:10
unix_infideldoodies?04:10
roadrunnerinput: Logitech Logitech USB Headset as /class/input/input504:10
roadrunner[17193154.216000]  input: USB HID v1.00 Device [Logitech Logitech USB Headset]  on usb-0000:00:1d.3-204:10
roadrunnerwow... it does recognize it... but how do I go about listening to stuff with it, lol04:11
ChrisCoolieThats fine04:11
dr_williswhats scary - it holds 60 cd's - i can fit proberlyu 600 cd's on a mp3 player the size of a deck of cards...04:11
dr_willisor more. :P04:11
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roadrunnerno sound plays out of my headphones at all... I just want to be able to lhave the sound play out of my headset, and configure the mic to work04:11
dr_willis600 would proberly fit on one of those cube mp3 players.04:11
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dr_willisusb headphones and mics?04:11
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roadrunnerUSB Headset04:11
unix_infidelroadrunner: i dont think that's gonna work well.04:11
dr_willisgood luck. :P04:12
ph4t-ph4nt0mMy secondary screen turns into my primary screen as soon as i configure X for 'nvidia' drivers.  this alone isn't a problem, but the other screen doesn't come on at all after that.  anyone have any ideas on what is taking place with this?  (i'm kinda a Linux noob, so plz take it easy on me)04:12
roadrunnerI just want the sound to work..04:12
roadrunnerLogitech Logitech USB Headset as /class/input/input504:12
roadrunnersee? It is recognized?04:12
unix_infidelroadrunner: check dmesg output.04:12
roadrunnerbut how would I go about making sound play out of it04:12
ChrisCoolieto all sound experts: is sound via usb implemented yet? that could roadrunner help!04:12
roadrunnerI did... that was the output... it recognizes it right a way, version, brand, model, and everything04:12
RawSewageOk, I followed the XGL HowTo04:13
roadrunnerI just don't know how to set my output to the headphones04:13
RawSewagetime to reboot and see if it worked04:13
DaSkreechRawSewage: Good luck04:13
unix_infideljust becaues it sees it doesnt mean it recognizes it.04:13
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dr_willisits just spittng out the usb info string for the device04:13
ChrisCoolieso that maybe confuses04:13
talaxorgah, built the driver, it shows up in the add printer wizard, but it still doesnt print04:14
roadrunnerok... it doesn't just "See" a device, it knew the brand and model and all of that... I was just assuming it it was recognized04:14
dr_willischeck the cups logs.04:14
roadrunnerwhats that?04:14
ChrisCooliethe more elder the hardware is - the linux support better is? :p04:15
dr_willisNot always :P04:15
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dr_willisbest to get 'good solid hardware - that you researched'04:15
dr_willis:P04:15
ChrisCooliei have04:16
roadrunnerso... anyone know how I would select a USB audio device for playback?04:16
dr_willisUSB headsets and mics give me fits under windows as well.04:16
roadrunnerI googled it, and it appears as if it can be done04:16
dr_willistey alwyas screw things up.04:16
roadrunnerand my windows ran this headset fine04:16
roadrunnerit's just I don't know where to go to configure this in linux04:16
talaxorhmm, logs say media tray is empty, but there's plenty of paper in it04:17
ChrisCoolieWin$ != Linux04:17
dr_willistalaxor,  i had the EXACT SAME error.04:17
dr_willistalaxor,  i used the cups web interface to set the tray to somthing else.. or perhaps set a different driver.. (i forget) and it started working04:17
talaxorwhat's the cups web interface?04:17
dr_willistalaxor,  i only have 1 tray on my printer. :P04:17
talaxorsame here04:17
ChrisCoolieRock solid HP here at LPT/EPP...04:18
dr_willishttp://localhost:631  (i think)04:18
dr_willisthis was a HP laserjet6l that has always worked good for me befor04:18
ChrisCoolieat USB or LPT?04:18
dr_willisthe cups interface may be disabled by default (which i find dumb) the wiki/forums tell how to enable it.04:18
talaxoryep, its disabled04:18
dr_willisthers a bit of a stink going on about how Ubuntu handled CUPS in the dapper release.04:19
DaSkreechroadrunner: Have you tried to google it?04:19
roadrunneryeah04:19
dr_willisthe web interface is proberly the best interface to use to enable/confgure printers.. and they decided the minimal gnome interface is better. :)04:19
roadrunnerI have been04:19
roadrunnerbut there is nothing with good instructions04:20
roadrunnerand I am entirely too new to linux to figure that out just yet04:20
roadrunnerIm trying, but I don't even know how I can tell if a USB device is attatched. I had my travel drive connected, and the light turned on, but I couldn't even figure out how to use it or anything04:20
ChrisCoolieCups says to me: In case of security, use another tool...04:20
roadrunneri just can't seem to get USB working...04:20
dr_willisI cant recall the last time id heard of a security issue in cups to be honest.04:21
dr_willisThere may have been some.. but those guys seem very very on the ball.04:21
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ph4t-ph4nt0mcould someone plz tell me if Kubuntu supports Xinerama out of the box or is there something that i have to install before it will work?!?!?04:22
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roadrunneranybody have any idea how I can get my USB headset to work?04:23
ph4t-ph4nt0mi am trying to figure this problem out so i can get my dual monitor setup going on Kubuntu and not have to go back to Mandriva04:23
ChrisCoolieMy USB bus can be ran (Debian Sarge [its from Spring 2005]  supports my Logitech Mouse as USB (now i use it PS2- wise)04:23
DaSkreechroadrunner: For A drive I know you can mount /dev/sda104:23
DaSkreechNot sure how to get a headset working04:23
roadrunnerI don't know what you mean... why would you have to mount a travel drive?04:24
roadrunneryou cant just plug it in and go?04:24
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DaSkreechroadrunner: Yeah You can. I've seen it not mount twice though04:24
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  it takes some tweaking/work last i messed with it. depends on yoru video cards as well.04:24
ChrisCoolieDaSkreech: In Usual cases no /dev/sda* devices are exist in Kubuntu!04:24
roadrunnerbear in mind, Im a linux noob, I don't know how to make it work >_< My next problem (Another day) will be getting my ipod to be recognized...04:24
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DaSkreechamarok! :)04:24
ChrisCoolieHow enable?04:25
ChrisCooliethe devices?04:25
stephan22222_hi04:25
stephan22222_is it a know problem that movies played with flash (youtube) are asynchron?04:26
ChrisCooliethen i bye (after i tried one of a friend) a stick...04:26
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stephan22222_sound is to late i gues 500ms04:26
stephan22222_is their a way to fix sound delay in flash?04:26
ChrisCooliewich Flash do you use?04:27
dr_willis!flash04:27
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, thanks for recognizing my question, but could youplease tell me if it comes straight with the OS or do i have to install it somehow?  i have a PCIeXpress GF 6600GT.  the 'nvidia' driver works find but it swaps my main monitor with my secondary monitor and the opposite monitor come up with fragments instead of a screen or not at all.  any ideas on what causes this and how to fix it?04:27
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:27
ChrisCoolieThere are more than one implementation04:27
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  its a X configuration issue. that the X config tools do not handle  (yet)04:27
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, i've been working with this for 2 days now and still haen't gotten it to work quite right.04:27
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stephan22222_ChrisCoolie: i use the flash which comes with easy ubuntu04:28
ChrisCooliek04:28
RawSewagelol this is freaky04:28
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  i had to manually work on the x config to get mine working. You may want to check oiut the MEPIS live cd. it had a tool to configure the 2 displays.. then use ITS working confiug as an example.04:28
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, should have reealized that, but this even happens after i manually configure it by hand04:28
RawSewageI installed Compiz04:28
RawSewageKonversation ServerList window wont go away though04:28
ChrisCooliei torred the Dapper Kubuntu DVD04:28
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, thanks.  i'll check it out.  MEPIS Linux?  i'll download it now.  thanks a lot man.04:29
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  also if using nvidia - yop  proberly want to research 'twinview' its their own variant of xcinerama. No idea on  ati cards.04:29
ChrisCoolieand burned that with my new LG04:29
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, i appriciate your help.04:29
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  yea - mepis has few other redeming features. :P they are even switching to the ubuntu repos last i looked. Perhaps ubuntu will get their x config tools some day04:29
ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, yeah, i stick to nVidia with Linux.  been running nVidia since 2001.04:29
RawSewagethis is crazy04:30
RawSewagemy whole desktop rotated like a cube04:30
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ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, i hope they work on it a bit.  When i tried running MEPIS a couple years ago, it seemed pretty nice, but still not as good as Debian itself.04:31
ChrisCoolieIf Kubuntu doesnt fit my needs until the next Debian Releasee (Etch) it will lose.04:31
dr_willisfor nvidia - google for some example twinview configs.04:32
DaSkreechRawSewage: What Video Card do you have?04:32
dr_willisi dont even mess with the xinerama stuff04:32
RawSewagelet's see04:32
RawSewageI hid the server list window on another side of the cube lol04:33
dr_willisph4t-ph4nt0m,  check out  http://gentoo-wiki.com/Twinview_Example for an example i used.04:33
RawSewageDaSkreech,  I have GeForce Ti 4200/AGP/SSE204:33
DaSkreechAh ok :)04:33
ChrisCoolieAt this time, i would try it beside Etch until my partitions will mess04:33
RawSewageDaSkreech, are you using Compiz04:33
DaSkreechRawSewage: I wish :) It crashes on startup04:34
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DaSkreech Stupid ATI drivers :-(04:34
RawSewageoh04:34
RawSewagethers an ATI howto04:34
ChrisCooliemy old fashioned AGP Card from 2k works okay04:34
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ph4t-ph4nt0mdr_willis, oh kool, thanks!  i was heading there as we were speaking too! heh.04:35
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DaSkreechYeah but the stupid ATI drivers still crash04:35
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ChrisCoolienot on mine?04:35
ChrisCoolietried the official way on console?04:36
stephan22222_my ati diver works good04:36
ChrisCooliemy 'ATI Rage 128 Pro 8MB' is very very old fashioned...04:37
ChrisCoolieon win, i watch TV (AverMedia TVPhone 98) via that04:37
RawSewageChrisCoolie, youre using Compiz now?04:37
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DaSkreechif I had an old card I could get this working04:38
DaSkreechThey have opensource drivers04:38
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ChrisCooliehem, sorry. Where do i find this?04:39
RawSewagehuh04:39
RawSewageare we talking about Compiz04:39
ChrisCoolieSorry i 'm not using this (at moment).04:40
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ben_hi04:42
ChrisCoolieI couldn't get ontopic to/ with Compiz because of my old fashioned PC...04:42
ChrisCoolieThat doesnt make sense i think...04:43
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dunefanis Automatic and EasyUbuntu the same thing?04:43
RawSewageno04:43
talaxorhow do i restart cups?04:43
RawSewageAutomatix is different than EasyUbuntu04:43
dunefanI had trouble with Automatix and thought IU might try EasyUbuntu04:44
ben_I have 6.06 is there an easyUbuntu for that?04:44
RawSewage!easyubuntu04:44
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:44
ben_i mean easyKubuntu04:44
RawSewage!easykubuntu04:44
ubotuI know nothing about easykubuntu04:44
RawSewageI dont know04:44
ben_i'm a linux n00b04:44
ChrisCoolieHow do i get port 631 (CUPS Web Interface working [to get rid the disabling)04:44
talaxorthat's what i'm trying to do right now04:45
DaSkreechEasy Ubuntu should work on Kubuntu04:45
DaSkreech it's non-gnome stuff04:45
RawSewage#EasyUbuntu04:46
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Frederickhi folks isnt netbeans in the repositories?04:46
ChrisCoolieI know Linux good: in '96 i tried Slackware, 97-98 i had Debian 2, 2k i installed Suse, later RH, 05 Debian Sarge and now i wait for a suitable system for me.04:48
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uriahheephello04:49
ChrisCoolieWin do i know since 3.1, my actual xp sucks04:49
uriahheep...would kubuntu be suitable for a pII 250mhz with 256mb sdram?04:49
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ChrisCooliei have 500mhz, it runs04:49
RawSewageXubuntu would be better04:49
Ahmucki have a computer at home, and i want to update via adept.  can adept build a portable profile for a usb key so that i can download the updates to the usb key and then take it home and update my computer ?04:50
Frederickuriahheep, nope, kde will suck04:50
uriahheephmm... it runs, as in it can be used but lags and loads apps slowly, or it runs properly and switfly?04:50
Frederickuriahheep, use something like windowmaker or xfce04:50
uriahheepFrederick: actually, accelerated knoppix ran fairly impressively on it04:50
uriahheep(using kde on it)04:50
Frederickuriahheep, so try your luck04:50
uriahheephm...04:51
uriahheep(for girlfriend... there's a gtk package manager right?)04:51
ben_Anyone have an intersil based wirelss card?04:51
ChrisCoolieare you satisfied uriahheep?04:51
uriahheep...or qt, of course04:51
Frederickuriahheep, you aren't gay cause you use graphical stuff04:51
uriahheephmm?04:51
uriahheepnah04:51
uriahheepi use genpoo04:51
uriahheepwow, strange silence04:52
ChrisCoolieKubuntu haves Adept, Ubuntu Synaptic, i doesnt know Xubuntu04:52
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uriahheepChrisCoolie: as package managers, you mean?04:52
ben_where do i go to see what wireless card i have, its not in network settings04:53
ChrisCooliethey sit up on apt and its tools04:53
uriahheepChrisCoolie: nice..04:53
ChrisCoolie.deb packages04:53
uriahheepChrisCoolie: how well does it run on your 500mhz?04:53
uriahheep...how long does it take to load openoffice, for example04:53
ChrisCoolieI use Kubuntu since Thursday04:53
Frederickfolks I ask again is netbeans avaliable?04:53
ChrisCoolieI test...04:54
uriahheepChrisCoolie: ah... ok then... not enough time to judge then?04:54
ChrisCooliefirst start after all ;)04:54
ChrisCooliethat takes longer04:55
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ben_So what should i use to install all the codecs on my computer? Atomatix or easykubuntu?04:56
ChrisCoolie45 seconds (the first start after Kubuntu-Install)04:56
ChrisCoolienow, close Openoffice writer, and start it again.04:57
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ChrisCooliei have 256MB Ram, and a 768MB Swap Partition. My Main Components are from 2k04:57
uriahheephmm04:58
uriahheephow long does second start take?04:58
ChrisCooliebut my harddisk is only one year old04:58
uriahheephm04:59
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uriahheephow fast is it, and what dma does your motherboard support?04:59
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ChrisCooliesecond start: ca. 30 seconds. UDMA 4 (says XP), but i have no benchmark results05:02
ChrisCoolieI watch DVD-Video (UDMA 2) burn since Tuesday DVD also that05:03
Frederickfolks I ask again is netbeans avaliable?05:03
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ChrisCooliedo you mean the java framework?05:04
Frederickyes05:04
ChrisCoolieThere are official sites at sun or java .com05:04
FrederickI know but I want a package05:05
ChrisCooliei that that ;)05:05
Frederick?05:05
ChrisCooliei thought that05:05
ChrisCooliethat i meant05:05
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deciousanyone ever had issues mounting data dvds greater than 4GB?05:06
deciousI can mount data dvds so long as it is lower than that, but for whatever reason I get IO errors, DVD is readable on a windows box fine05:07
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ChrisCoolieI have to take my brAun shaver05:07
ChrisCoolie:p05:07
humberthello all05:07
humberti am newbie here05:07
humberti install kubuntu 1 hour ago05:08
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humberth somebody here ?05:08
Hudson_hzo back05:08
Hudson_hen ondertussen met een beter irc ook05:08
humbert?05:08
osirishumbert, what is your problem/question05:09
humbertsomebody know how to install skype with kubuntu ?05:09
ChrisCoolieHudson_h you maybe the only dutch writer in this moment05:09
osirissudo apt-get install skype05:09
humberth osiris good name05:09
Hudson_hsry i'm in the wrong channel05:09
Frederickoki so there is no package?05:09
humbertskype has many linux versions05:10
osirishumbert, thx   sudo apt-get install should get ya going05:10
humbertandn i dont know how to install the good one05:10
osirishumbert, what version do you want05:10
humberth i just want skype05:10
humberti dont care what version05:10
humbertthe last one i presume05:11
osiristhen use the command i provided05:11
humbertcommand ?05:11
osirissudo apt-get install skype05:11
decioushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1202068#post120206805:11
humbertOK05:11
humbertthi i know05:11
humbertkonqueror05:11
deciouswell if anyone can take a look and give me some tips05:11
humbertis equivalent firefox05:11
humbertor IE05:11
deciousI have googled to death :)05:11
osirishumbert, if you want firefox, do sudo apt-get install firefox05:11
osirissee a pattern developing ?"05:12
humbertbut normallyi download a exe file05:12
humberti click05:12
humbertand magic its installing05:12
osirislinux life is far different from the M$ way of doing things05:12
humbertwith kubuntu .....05:12
humbertbqslghGSQGEZG,05:13
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humbertMAYBE I DIDNNT UNDERSTAND THIS NEW WAY05:13
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humbertsudo what ?05:13
humbertwhere i put sudo apt firefox05:13
osirisinto a terminal05:14
humbertoula ?05:14
osirisfrom command line05:14
RawSewagewhy would you do that??05:14
humbertin the bank ?05:14
RawSewageFirefox is in the Add/Remove programs05:14
RawSewageremember, he's a Windows user05:14
humbertahaaaa05:14
humbertthere is a add programm menu05:14
humbertgreat05:14
osirisRawSewage, because most of the time the gui apps are broken, and give users more issue than learning the proper cli way of doing things05:15
humbertyes yes i am an old (stupid) MS user05:15
decioushumbert, it also may be easier if you are just learning linux to use one of the gui packages like synaptic05:15
osirisstupid doesnt play into it05:15
osirisits just different05:15
RawSewagetrue05:15
humbertmaybe maybe05:15
humbertthe only thing is i am a bit disapointed05:15
humbertand i would like be as comfortable like on windows05:16
humbertmaybe to persuade my friends to change05:16
humberti am open to learn05:16
osirispatience young padwan.  all in due time05:17
osiris=)05:17
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humbertyes yes may the force be with you too05:17
bioticproevening yall, why in konq, would /home/username/ show previews, whereas system:/media/hdb3/username wouldn't, they both are pointing to the same location05:18
humbertapparently force was with france yesterday05:18
deciousI got my wife to switch over, now she won't change back to MS for anything05:18
humbertwe win versus BRASIL05:18
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humbertOK05:19
humbertso how to install other softwares05:19
humbert?05:19
humbertapparently there is a command window05:19
osirisdecious, same here. we keep windows for gaming, and certain work related software.  other than that, we are an all nix household05:19
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humbertand i must write command in text correct ?05:19
osirisabsolutly05:20
humbertgood05:20
humbertits its like DOS 15 years ago05:20
deciousosiris, yea games still are developed for windows platforms, wine just doesn't cut it yet, it will come, eventually.05:20
osirisand remember, cli commands are case sensitive05:20
arcturushey, OPERA is nice!05:21
deciousosiris, so anything thoughts on large data DVD mounting issues?05:21
osirisdecious, the day i can get sims2 and its associated packs to work, windows goes out one05:21
arcturusvery impressed with its speed05:21
decioushaha05:21
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humbertwhere i find this window to write commands inside ?05:21
arcturus!windows05:21
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm05:21
deciousI need battlefield, that will be a wile05:21
deciouser while05:21
osirisdecious, dual layer 8G disc's ?05:21
stephan22222_hi05:22
deciousthis one is just a dvdr but its 4327 MB05:22
osirishumbert, konsole or rxtv, or xterm or Eterm,05:22
deciousthe 4127 mounts fine05:22
osirisdecious, never had an issue with that05:22
stephan22222_i handled to istall xgl, really impressive, but i don't have any window decoration, can anyone imageine what wrong is?05:23
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deciousI read a lot of posts were people couldn't burn data dvds greater than 4gig, but the tricks they used never worked for me05:23
humbertwrite 2 4Go discs05:23
deciousI tried to force the dvd to use the scsi emulation, but no dice, I posted the errors I was getting in ubuntuforums05:23
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humbertsimple !05:24
ChrisCooliehumbert, do want "Konsole"?05:24
humbertyes yes05:24
humbertwhere is this console ?05:24
humbertheu konsole05:24
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osirisits a program that opens up a command line box on yer desktop05:24
ChrisCoolieFast way --> Ctrl+F2, type Konsole05:24
deciousI have data cds that I have to mount, its annoying booting linux, reading the files, then rebooting to linux and getting them off the other partition05:24
stephan22222_gnome-window-decorator ist the problem, in which package is that?05:24
ChrisCoolieor (both in KDE) K -> KDE -> Konsole05:25
humberthhh05:26
ChrisCooliebut if you want get out of X...05:26
humberti find konsole05:26
humbertits like DOS05:26
ChrisCoolie... then Try Ctrl + Alt +F205:26
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ChrisCoolieThen back to X --> Ctrl+Alt+F705:27
ChrisCoolieKonsole has Linux commands...05:27
ChrisCoolieas the Terminal has05:27
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osirishi lowtech05:28
osirisdidnt see ya there05:28
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ChrisCoolienow, i will do some admin tasks05:28
lowtechhi osiris05:29
JupiterDuois shipit ready to take orders for >10 CD's?05:29
Hawkwindosiris: Then pay attention :P05:29
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HawkwindJupiterDuo: Some people have already gotten theirs05:29
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JupiterDuook, last time I looked at the form it didn't allow input of custom #'s of CD's05:30
lowtechlol, little pickles05:32
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humbertFUCK05:33
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osirishumbert, watch the language please05:33
humbertwho tell me to do ctrl + alt + F205:33
humbert???05:33
humbertbastard, i have to reboot05:34
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JupiterDuohumbert: (and everyone) be very careful if anyone tells you to press any key sequence on IRC :P05:34
lowtechreboot? why?05:34
humbertyou have just this to do make jokes with new users05:34
osirishumbert, you didnt read the rest of the statement..  you needed to press ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to your desktop05:34
humbertmmmm05:35
osirisit was a bad recomendation05:35
humbertok05:35
osiristhat tends to trip up a lot of first time linux users05:35
humberti still dont know how to install one simple software05:35
osiriswasnt meant that way though05:35
humberti have konsole open05:36
JupiterDuoosiris: waht does Ctrl+alt+F2 and C-A-F7 do?05:36
Hawkwindhumbert: What do you want to install ?05:36
HawkwindJupiterDuo: Press it and see05:36
humbertSKYPE05:36
osiristype sudo apt-get install skype05:36
osirisand press enter05:36
lowtechshould always wait a few after given a command to make sure you got all of it, or someone else says don't05:36
HawkwindJupiterDuo: It takes you to a console tty, then ctrl-alt-f7 brings you back to X05:36
osirishumbert, then you have to enter your users password05:36
humbertsudo apt-get install skype05:36
osirisyes05:36
osirisexactly05:37
humbertf... not here !05:37
JupiterDuoOK, good to know :)05:37
Hawkwindhumbert: Have you enabled multiverse yet ?05:37
humbertpasword ?05:37
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osirisyour user password you set on install05:37
Hawkwindhumbert: Enter your password05:37
humbertthks05:38
osirisor just enter if you didnt set one05:38
HawkwindSeems skype is in freecontrib05:38
humberti am newbie but not like this05:38
humbert:-)05:38
JupiterDuojust put in my request for 50 Kubuntu CD's, hopefully they'll ship em05:38
humbertimpossible to find the paquet skype05:38
JupiterDuoI'm sure my "reason" is good (Distro to fellow CS students)05:38
Hawkwindhumbert: Have you set up multiverse and all that for your sources.list yet ?05:39
humbertmultiverse ?05:39
Hawkwind!multiverse05:39
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:39
Hawkwindhumbert: Read that05:39
humbertits a new sexual position ?05:39
JupiterDuohumbert: I wasn't able to find skype in teh repositories05:39
JupiterDuohumbert: did you try getting the package from the skype website?05:40
humbertheu apparently there are different linux files05:40
HawkwindJupiterDuo: No need05:40
HawkwindJupiterDuo: There are repos for it05:40
humbertwait05:40
JupiterDuodidn't find it on packages.ubuntu.com05:41
JupiterDuomust be some other repository05:41
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jbrouhardHey guys05:41
jbrouhardquick question05:41
osirishumbert, if you are new to linux, i suggest trying http://linuxfordummies.org05:41
jbrouhardon duo core laptops, do you have to use SMP, or is that not recommended?05:41
HawkwindJupiterDuo: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.005:41
osirisdont be put off by the name....its a VERY helpful site05:41
humberthttp://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/05:41
JupiterDuoanother linux help site I like for ubuntu is ubuntuguide.org05:42
humbertthere are 7 different possibilities05:42
HawkwindJupiterDuo: Read that post.  It's a modified sources.list but each source has been checked and verified05:42
deciousosiris, what kernel are you using?05:42
humbertcome on guys, do it simple05:42
humbert7 differnt files05:42
Hawkwindjbrouhard: Yes you have to use the SMP kernel AFAIK05:42
osiris2.6.15-25-38605:42
humberti know why 95% use windows05:42
jbrouhardDamn05:43
osirishumbert, because 95% of people dont want to learn how there computers work.05:43
Hawkwindhumbert: Don't troll.  Just follow directions05:43
JupiterDuothanks for the link05:43
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jbrouhardYou dn't need to recompile right?  just apt-get install kernel-smp right ?05:43
Hawkwindjbrouhard: apt-get install linux-68605:44
humbertshit05:45
jbrouhardok05:45
humbertand i cant do paste in konsole05:45
Hawkwind!language05:45
ubotuPlease watch your langage and keep this channel family friendly.05:45
humberti have to write manually all commands05:45
humbertfamily friendly ?05:45
humbertaha i forget you are in the USA05:45
Hawkwindhumbert: If you have a middle mouse button, you click it to paste05:45
humbertcool05:46
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humbertno way to install this damm software05:47
jbrouhard*sigh*05:47
humberti copy the commands but ...05:47
jbrouhardSamba is driving me up a wall05:47
caribou7Anyone here use Krusader?05:48
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caribou7Wondering why I can't upgrade Krusader to latest version.05:49
caribou7(it is not in any of the approved sources)05:49
osirishumbert, did you check out linuxfordummies.com ?05:49
osiriserr. linuxfordummies.org i mean05:49
Hawkwindcaribou7: What version are you trying to upgrade to ?05:49
Hawkwindcaribou7: krusader_1.60.1-0ubuntu3  <~~That's the latest on the repos it appears05:50
osirishumbert, there is a kubuntu section there. under how-to's, read the post about sources.list05:50
caribou7Yeah and it's buggy - there is a newer version, hold on let me find the page05:50
humberti go on internet to complete my knowledge on linux05:51
humbertyour linuxfordmmies is not working05:51
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caribou7Hawkwind:  At http://krusader.sourceforge.net/ it says latest stable version is 1.70.005:52
Hawkwindhumbert: d00d, http://linuxfordummies.org05:52
osirishttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0.05:52
Hawkwindcaribou7: It probably won't hit the repos for a while yet05:52
humbertyep i find on google05:52
osirishttp://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.005:52
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KaoticEvilhey everyone :)05:53
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caribou7Rats, the version they have now keeps bombing - same error (sigenv 11 or something like that)05:53
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humbertsources list ?05:54
humbertwhat is that ?05:54
caribou7It does it whenever I try to open certain directories, and it's not permissions because it does it even when running root mode Krusader.05:54
JupiterDuohumbert: it's at /etc/apt/sources.list05:54
caribou7(dev directory for one)05:54
osirisits a file, that tells apt where to download software from05:55
JupiterDuouse a text editor to change it (as root)05:55
osirishumbert, ^^05:55
KaoticEvilhumbert: its the list of repositories that apt/synaptic/adept use for software downloading/installing05:55
humbertok05:55
KaoticEvil!repos05:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:55
KaoticEvilcheck that out, humbert05:55
ChrisCoolieQ: How to reduce / ca. 10 GB ?05:55
humbertso you just tape skype and the computer install it from the net05:55
Hawkwindhumbert: No05:56
osirishumbert, yes. once sources.list is setup05:56
osiriswell, sudo apt-get install sykpe05:56
Hawkwindhumbert: You seriously need to do some reading about linux and the distro you chose.  You are asking the same questions over and over and not getting anywhere05:56
JupiterDuohumbert: first do sudo apt-get update after you update the sources.list05:56
osirisbut you type that, and it installs05:56
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humbertno but i see KDE is not a intuitive OS05:57
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HawkwindKDE is NOT an OS first of all05:57
humberti mean a real easy software05:57
HawkwindIt's a desktop environment05:57
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Hawkwindhumbert: I'll put it to you this way, linux is NOT for everyone05:57
ChrisCoolieKDE makes your OS smooth - not more05:58
osirisyou have to want it, and be willing to read/learn to make it work05:58
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osirisE17 ftw05:58
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KaoticEvilhumbert: you may be happier with PCLinuxOS05:58
humbertPClinuxOS ?05:58
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humbertme i want a good interface with simple tools05:59
humbertfree and powerful, no more05:59
ChrisCoolieyes Hawkmind smooth is not every Environment - thats philosophy05:59
KaoticEvilKubuntu has that.... but there are other distros that are even easier05:59
HawkwindChrisCoolie: I'll stick with E17, but thanks for trying :P05:59
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humbertbut i am not stupid, i am engineer06:00
ChrisCoolieas experienced with Original Debian i can go deeper if someone needs help06:00
osirishumbert, patience and reading will get you everywhere in linux06:00
osirisand you cant be afraid to get your hands dirty06:01
humbertthis philosophy is quite difficult, the user has to adapt to hardware06:01
humbertnot the opposite06:01
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ChrisCooliewhat i do is not what you do06:01
osirisyou bought the hardware, of course you have to adapt to it06:01
humbertbut i will read more in detail these web ressources06:01
osirishumbert, you mean you came out of the womb a perfect windows user ?06:01
humbertthks again06:01
humbertBYE all06:01
ChrisCoolieyou are clearly near - here!06:02
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HawkwindChrisCoolie: What exactly are you rambling to yourself about ?06:02
arcturus!ubuntu06:03
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome06:03
arcturus!kubuntu06:03
ubotuKubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment. For more info see http://kubuntu.org ; to install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:03
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ChrisCoolieI meant earlier: Don't think because some a lot use their Hardware _near_ you have to narrow it06:04
jerryhi06:05
jerryhi06:05
ChrisCooliesorry for my kludge of english - i'm not e native english speaker06:05
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jerryChris, you have an irish name and yet you don't speak english?06:05
jerryI have a question06:06
ChrisCooliehem. The Nick ChrisCoolie is derivated of Name/Surname, read www.christiankuhlmann.de06:06
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jerryok06:06
jerryI have a question06:06
HawkwindThen ask06:06
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jerryI want to connect to a BBS through telnet and when something like "Global: and someone types a global message" that it gets sent to a seperate window. Also have auto connect on disconnect.06:07
HawkwindAhhh, you're still wanting that.  No idea here06:08
arcturusjerry, what decade do you live in?06:08
arcturussorry, joke06:08
jerryWell what I want to do is connect to a BBS to play Mud but I don't want to have to deal with all the unnessisary stuff that comes up06:08
Hawkwindarcturus: He trying to live his childhood memories again :P06:08
ChrisCoolieWe are in the Zero's now :p06:09
jerryI was born in 199806:09
jerry21st century?06:09
HawkwindYou're 7 years old ?06:09
ChrisCoolieme in 197206:09
HawkwindMaybe 8 years old depending on when your b-day is06:09
jerryya06:09
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jerryBut I advanced because I came from an alien nation06:09
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arcturusand I want my beta VCR back!06:10
jerryis that still a term?06:10
ChrisCoolieuh oh :p06:10
arcturusand 8 track tapes06:10
jerryWell what do people do for MUD these days?06:10
ChrisCooliethink i have to visit de.alt.ufo again ;)06:10
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jerryBBS was back in 1998 when the internet didn't exist06:10
arcturuswould google help?06:10
Hawkwindjerry: Not hardly06:11
jerryWell I play runescape but it got boring fast06:11
Hawkwindjerry: BBS's were around in the 80's, early 80's at that as I started on a C-64 with 300Baud in 198306:11
RawSewagetry early 80s06:11
jerryWhat was 300 baud like?06:11
_sonic_Hi guys. Can anyont help me with my system mail. It doesn't seem to be functioning. The mutt command isn't being recognised.06:11
RawSewagescreechy06:11
arcturusHawkwind: I won't ask how much you paid for that 300 baud :)06:11
RawSewageyou actually placed the phone on it06:12
ChrisCoolieLater much Fido-Boxes ran with BBS06:12
jerryCan you do stuff like read email with 300 baud?06:12
RawSewagethe receiver06:12
Hawkwindarcturus: Heh.  I got it free as a x-mas gift :P  But my 1200baud it seems cost about $120 IIRC06:12
RawSewageyou called someone's house06:12
RawSewagethat had a BBS set up06:12
osirisi still have an accoustic coupler paralel modem laying around here06:12
jerryLike for example, if I wanted to send a paper with 10 lines on it, how fast would it go through 300 bauld?06:12
osirisradio shack special!~06:13
Hawkwindjerry: It'd go at 300BPS :P06:13
RawSewage10 seconds?06:13
jerry10 sec?06:13
HawkwindProbably take 15 - 20 seconds roughly06:13
ChrisCooliedepends on line06:13
jerryThat long06:13
jerrywow06:13
HawkwindAssuming you are getting the full 300BPS of course06:13
jerryhow about 1200 bps?06:13
Hawkwind1/4 of that time06:13
HawkwindLOL06:14
jerryIf I had a whole page of text06:14
RawSewageCompuServe was the closest thing to an internet back then06:14
jerryincluding paragraphs06:14
jerryand headers and fooders06:14
jerryLike 5 sec?06:14
jerryI ask cause I'm a HAM and I got a D-Star radio that can send stuff at 1200 BPS through the air06:15
RawSewagethere wasnt HTML06:15
jerryand for example I want to type stuff on my laptop and send it home at 1200 BPS like 5 pages of text06:15
jerryand three paragraphs on every page06:15
jerryor two to three paragraphs06:16
jerryI'm not scientific06:16
RawSewageok06:16
jerryI don't even know how to form numbers together06:16
RawSewageI guess divide 1200 / 806:16
jerryWhat's that?06:17
RawSewage15 letters per second?06:17
jerry!calc 1200/806:17
ubotuI know nothing about calc 1200/806:17
RawSewage150 I mean06:17
jerry150 sec?06:17
jerryHoly cow06:17
jerrythat's slow06:17
RawSewageNO06:17
jerry2 min06:17
RawSewage150 letters per second06:17
RawSewagebut this is offtopic06:17
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jerryso how many letters is on a page usually?06:18
jerrylike an essay06:18
ChrisCoolieofftopic is often topic :p06:18
RawSewagedoesnt bother me06:18
_sonic_Anyone know anything about WinXP's "Compress Old Files" option?06:18
stephan22222_that sucks there is a borken packe for compiz-gnome, it dependes on a new packageversion which is nowhere06:18
ChrisCoolieok06:18
jerryofftopic stands for it's not on topic chris06:18
osiris_sonic_, in what regards06:18
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_sonic_I just accidently left the option ot compress old filed checked while doing a disk cleanup06:19
osirisit compresses old files not frequently accessed06:19
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jerryIs there a program for telnetting to stuff that allows scripting that parses lines of text like "Global: this is a message" and malipilates it like python or something + auto connect on disconnect?06:19
ChrisCooliethat's clear. i meant: often is off topic on topic - a little bit humor ;)06:19
_sonic_I want to move all the files to a linux partition and am worried that they won't work any longer now that they are compressed06:19
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osirismight slow the system a little, as it might have to uncompress some files, but you shouldnt really notice much of a difference06:20
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_sonic_So they'll uncompress as they are accessed from the linux partition and then stay uncompressed?06:20
osiris_sonic_, try backing up to disk, and making sure they read back fine06:20
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_sonic_There's a Lot of them and I'm not sure which ones are compressed06:21
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_sonic_Is there an uncompress option?06:21
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jerryI was watching a girl that had a lazy eye. I kept looking at it thinking it was fake until she moves it but it only goes so far to the left I believe06:22
jerryshe's still cute though. sucks for the eye06:22
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osiris_sonic_, not that im aware of, but try just a general cross section of files to compare06:23
_sonic_osiris: Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean06:24
osiris_sonic_, and i dont think they are actually compressed to something like a zip format or anything06:24
jerryI have a question06:24
ChrisCoolietell while i shave me06:24
_sonic_osiris: aha. Thanks. ps do you know anything about the Kubuntu default mail program?06:25
ChrisCoolieIn Kontact is KMail embedded...06:25
jerryI'm trying to run eggdrop and it says [21:24]  invalid command name "!" while execting "! /home/jerry/eggdrop" (file "eggdrop.conf" line 1)06:25
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osiris_sonic_, what is it ? i do all my stuff custom, so i dont know whatthe default is06:26
jerryoh and it's a Tcl error in file 'egdrop.conf'06:26
ChrisCoolieexists the file /home/jerry/eggdrop?06:26
osirisjerry, i MIGHT be able to help with an eggdrop06:26
jerryok06:26
ChrisCoolieokay i let you both06:27
osirispastebin the eggdrop.conf file, and pm the link to me06:27
jerryok06:27
jerryWhat's your email/06:27
jerryoh pm06:27
jerryum can you join #jerry06:27
ChrisCooliei will mess up my extended Partitions if moving them to HDD top will fail..06:28
_sonic_osiris: Well, I want to be able to send mail from php. My scripts are not working. I tried to check /var/mail but it's empty and the mutt command is not being recognised.06:29
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osiris_sonic_, thats not my area.  cant help ya there06:29
_sonic_osiris: no probs, thanks anyway06:30
osirissure thing06:30
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bleakedso i was missing an option i loved in konqueror, and so after discussing w/ a few people in this channel, it was decided that i would need to restore my original kde profiles (see: http://www.kubuntu.org/faq.php#konqueror ) -- however, now all of my kde panel 'quick browswer' applet links do not open konq, nor does the various 'system places' menu open, and finally nor does any kio-slave dialog box asking me to open a newly mounted cd-rom06:32
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osirisbleaked, did you rm your ~/.kde dir ? (make a backup first)06:37
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bleakedosiris: i have not removed my .kde dir..are you telling me to..or?06:42
osirisim saying try it, but make a backup of it first06:42
osirisjust to test06:42
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bleakedosiris: well, i'm assuming i should restart kde then?  (i can try this in a minute, i'm waiting for this cd to finish ripping)06:50
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osirisyes, and dont burn the .kde dir, just rename it something06:51
osirisif you burn it, its gonna set all the file permissions to read only06:52
SpAwNhello all im on a kubuntu live dvd...trying to figure out why i have no sound....it seems that it sees my sound card....and i sound a script that gathers info on the soundcard...and there are even mods loaded for the sound card...but i still have no sound.06:53
SpAwNi have obviously checked if its muted...which it doesnt appear to be06:54
SpAwNlspci shows me this: 0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)06:54
osirisand all volumes are up in alsamixer ?06:55
SpAwNall the ones that i can slide up are.....but some say muted.....how do i unmute them....there ones like pcm and surround...didnt think that they would affec tthe sound06:56
HawkwindPCM must be unmuted06:56
SpAwNbut may as well have them all unmuted06:56
HawkwindHighlight them and press M06:56
osiristhx Hawkwind06:56
SpAwNhmm actualy now that im looking it was already unmuted06:56
SpAwNpcm that is06:57
osirismake sure kde is using alsa as default sound server ?06:57
SpAwNi hjavent osiris....this is a live dvd...i will check06:57
SpAwNhmm...would u know where i set that....i never use kde...and this is my 1st time on kubuntu06:58
Hawkwindkcontrol06:58
osiriskcontrol06:58
osirisdoh!~06:58
SpAwNHawkwind: u are on fire tonight =D06:59
HawkwindSpAwN: Make sure ALL settings in alsamixer are unmuted though06:59
SpAwNHawkwind: i just turned them all on06:59
HawkwindYou scrolled all the way to right and got each one ?  There are about 25 different settings to change07:00
SpAwNyes Hawkwind.....lol...took me a few mins to realize that but yes07:00
SpAwNk kcontrol was set to auto detect...i switched it to alsa07:01
SpAwNnow restarting sound system is reapeaing itself07:02
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HawkwindSpAwN: Have you done all of the restricted formats stuff ?07:02
SpAwNHawkwind: no i was using one of the examples in the the folder07:02
SpAwN...this is a live dvd07:02
Hawkwind!restricted07:02
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:02
SpAwNfigured i wouldnt do that till i got any kinda sound07:02
SpAwNhmm the little status bar under restarting sound service is just looping07:03
SpAwNitll get to 100% then go back to 0 % and do it all over07:03
HawkwindYou need to do restricted stuff to get sounds possibly07:04
osirisopen a term and try sudo kill artsd07:04
SpAwNHawkwind: i had a very similer prob when  i tried centos and ubuntu a while back(probly 8-9 months ago)07:04
osirismight unloop it07:04
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SpAwNosiris: right on man.,,,,did unloop it07:05
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SpAwNstill no sound when i try the sound test07:06
SpAwN:(07:06
HawkwindAgain, you have to do the restricted formats stuff07:06
SpAwNHawkwind: u realy think that that will affect all the sounds?07:07
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SpAwNlike i get no start up sound...i get nothing07:07
osirisSpAwN, cant say i ever attempted sound on an intel chipset, so im kinda clueless to its nuances07:07
HawkwindSpAwN: It happened to me.07:07
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Healothi kubuntuans07:20
Hobbseehey Healot07:21
HobbseeSpAwN: is the PCM in kmix all the way up?07:21
SpAwNyes Hobbsee07:21
HobbseeSpAwN: hmmm...which sound chipset is this?  obvuiously an intel07:22
SpAwNim now gonna try and install it on a small partion to make sure i can get sound to work...but now its stuck at 50% of destecting my hard disk...07:22
SpAwNyes07:22
SpAwN0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)07:22
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SpAwNhmm.......wonder why its stuck...07:22
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SpAwN2dns time its not gotten paste step 5...the disk scann thinggy07:24
SpAwNbrb gonna try somthing real quick07:25
HealotI finally resize my resolution to the smoothest screen eva~07:28
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SpAwNhmm disappointing,,,,the installer isnt getting past the disk scan part...it got past the scan part but now is just hangging with the little mouse pointer spinning07:34
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SpAwN...ill let it sit for a few more mins07:34
noiesmolooking for help with pxeclient pxelinux.0 invalid image error07:35
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Healotno valid installer image - symptom... solution, reinstall a valid image, make sure the DHCP server configured correctly?07:37
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billdhahello07:39
billdhaCan someone tell me how to complitly remove Eterm07:39
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Healotapt-get remove --purge eterm07:42
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SpAwNwelp here goes....lets hope i re partioned my hdd right and dont lose all 250 gigs of important stuff =D07:51
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SpAwNbrb08:09
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Healotdamn Skim keep crashing...08:14
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holotoneI'm trying to enable simple local file sharing in between two kubuntu 6.06 machines08:19
holotoneI'm at the machine with the folder I'm trying to share08:20
holotoneI right click on the folder in konquerer and select properties08:20
holotonethe select the "Share" tab08:20
holotonethen "Configure File Sharing"08:20
holotoneI am prompted for su password, which  I enter08:20
holotoneI then get the dialog I SHOULD get, but I can't do anything as everything is greyed out.08:20
holotoneany ideas?08:20
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roobwell good news.....i didnt mess up my partions08:23
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holotoneAnyone? Simple folder sharing between two kubuntu 6.06 machines?08:27
raulhow to restore grub?08:27
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ArmedGeekholotone: nfs, probably08:30
Lynourehmm, info grub does not give the grub manual on kubuntu08:31
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ArmedGeekraul: grub-install /dev/<device>08:31
raulhow using the install cd?08:32
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Lynoureraul: put it in a boot with it08:33
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rpedro!tell raul about grub08:36
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__osh__Odd bet. I'm sure I know how it ends. With nothing and a claim that security stopped them. Let's hope they make enough on google-ads though. http://www.sonjaswette.com/index_en.html08:37
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LynoureIs kubuntu supposed to show texinfo manuals with info command in it's default configuration?08:39
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__osh__Lynoure: Think so.08:40
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Lynoure__osh__: hmm, yes, seems that at least wget one is fine08:40
SpAwNwow adept is pretty slick huh?08:41
Lynouretime to report a tiny bug, then08:41
ArmedGeekSpAwN: yep08:41
ArmedGeekLynoure: what info isn't working ?08:41
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Zaireanyone here know where I can find the aclocal-1.4 install or if it goes by any different name08:41
__osh__I've always found adept to be a little slow. Works well enough though. One thing that bothers me is that I have to give my password to make security updates. Those should go more or less automatically.08:42
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Zairemy mandriva says aclocal-1.4 is missing when I try to run a make on this one program of mine08:43
ArmedGeekZaire: urpmi -y aclocal .. and why are you asking that here ?08:44
LynoureZaire: but what does ubuntu say when you try the same?08:44
Zairecause its a linux help question and to get help with mandriva you have to pay a min of 60 bux for reg fee08:44
LynoureArmedGeek: info grub. I filed a bug on it already  (into grub, not into info)08:44
Zaireand Im not running ubuntu08:45
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ArmedGeekLynoure: info grrub works here08:45
ArmedGeekZaire: just join #mandriva .. it's free08:46
LynoureArmedGeek: hmmm, I haven't done anything t oinfo nor grub installations myself08:46
LynoureArmedGeek: so you get the grub texinfo manual, and not the man page?08:46
ZaireI would use Ubuntu or kubuntu but my vidcard makes it run very unstable08:46
ArmedGeekLynoure: works on my desktop too08:46
ArmedGeekZaire: if you're using mandriva just join #mandriva .. most of the guys over there know their distro08:47
LynoureArmedGeek: I wonder whether it was then something that didn't upgrade right to the stable version of dapper. So you do get the right text, and not the one that says it should show the texinfo manual?  (just wanting to be sure)08:48
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ArmedGeekLynoure: whoops, my bad.  wasn't paying close enough attention08:49
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LynoureArmedGeek: Thanks in any case. :)08:51
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hunt0rhi all, I have a problem with the transperancy in the konsole. When I activate the transparency only the first tab in the konsole will be transparent if i open another tab it is dark is this a known problem?08:55
Lynourehunt0r: let me see if I can get it to happen on mine...08:57
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whoiam55hunt0r: you have to save your session profile. settings > save as default08:58
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SpAwNhello all....i stil  have no sound i see this when i use aplay...so kubuntu sees that i have a sound card at least...http://pastebin.ca/7688808:58
SpAwNive unmuted and turned up every single thing in alsamixer08:58
Lynourehunt0r: I got background transparancy on all the session tabs.08:59
crimsunSpAwN: pastebin ``amixer''08:59
hunt0rwhoiam55: sry this does not help :(08:59
SpAwNive added all the things in RestrictedFormats and still no sound at all...nothing08:59
hunt0rLynoure: what kde version do you have?08:59
SpAwNcrimsun: http://pastebin.ca/7688909:00
SpAwNthe normal pastebin timed out on me09:00
whoiam55hunt0r: I just saw it's not working with root shell, but working with normal console09:00
hunt0rwhoiam55: hmm...09:01
Lynourehunt0r: the latest one that came with Dapper, 3.5.209:01
SpAwNi realy hope i get sound to work for me.....im liking this os09:01
crimsunSpAwN: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off09:01
whoiam55hunt0r: I'm using latest kde btw09:02
hunt0rLynoure: hmm.. ok I have upgradet to 3.5.3 but I saw this bug befor I upgraded too09:02
SpAwNcrimsun: k done09:02
SpAwNlet me test09:02
whoiam55SpAwN: what's you problem?09:02
SpAwNno sound whoiam5509:02
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SpAwN:(09:02
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_rince_mrg09:02
whoiam55SpAwN: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?09:02
whoiam55and I supposed no sound in amarok09:02
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs09:03
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB09:03
SpAwNwhoiam55: yes i have it...no not just amarok...no sound at all09:03
SpAwNand no crimsun i still have no sound09:03
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whoiam55!info amarok09:03
ubotuamarok: versatile and easy to use audio player for KDE. In repository main, is optional. Version 2:1.3.9-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 7630 kB, installed size 18672 kB09:03
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SpAwNi personaly use xmms for mp3's09:04
crimsunSpAwN: is this a laptop or a desktop?09:04
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SpAwNdesktop dell dimension 840009:04
SpAwNuses ac'9709:04
SpAwN0000:00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)09:04
crimsunamixer set 'Exchange Front/Surround' on && amixer set 'Spread Front to Surround and Center/LFE' on09:05
SpAwNshould i use sudo to do that cmd?09:06
crimsunno09:06
SpAwNk09:06
SpAwNdone09:06
crimsunhave you ever had sound (e.g., live cd)?09:06
SpAwNno09:06
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crimsunif that doesn't work, dmesg09:07
SpAwNi used mandriva linux b4..and it had no probs with it....i tried centos a while back and had no sound either....also a older version of ubuntu....09:07
crimsunI may not respond immediately, phone09:07
SpAwNsure thanks man09:07
SpAwNomg crimsun it WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!09:08
SpAwNi hear music09:08
crimsunexcellent.09:08
SpAwNthanks god...........thanks so much09:08
Healotduh09:08
SpAwNi need to write that down so when i do a real full install i wont bug ya again ;)09:08
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SpAwNbrb gonna fire up xchat09:13
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Healot no one read the MigratingFromWindowsToubuntu documentation around here?09:16
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sketchb0xanyone around that could help me with a kde xorg config09:18
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sketchb0xmy dual display nvidia card works on the login screen, but when kde boots up the second monitor goes out09:18
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sketchb0xanyone have any idea what changes from one screen to another?09:18
sketchb0xthat would mess up my xorg config09:18
sketchb0xkde 3.5.309:18
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LynoureHealot: I haven't as I didn't migrate from Windows to Ubuntu... Do you want feedback on it, or something?09:19
ArmedGeeksketchb0x: TwinView ?09:19
whoiam55!info mythtv09:19
ubotumythtv: A personal video recorder application (client and server). In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-5ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 17 kB, installed size 64 kB09:19
sketchb0xtwinview is correct09:20
Healotno... it seems people don't do reading anymore09:20
Healotbut they watch Da Vinci Code09:20
whoiam55!info mythgame09:20
ubotumythgame: A game frontend (xmame, snes, nes, pc) module for MythTV. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 0.18.1-3ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 1496 kB09:20
LynoureHealot: I bet many people come to the channel without knowing that document exists.09:20
sketchb0xArmedGeek, it should work, and has worked before on this same box...09:21
martinjh99What package are the kernel headers in?09:21
Healotit's not even listed on the channel topic...09:21
Healotbut nvm...09:22
LynoureHealot: can you give the url for it. It wasn't googlable as easily as I thought (in fact some of the hits hinted at such document not existing, making further googling less likely for most people)09:22
Healotpretty hard huh?09:22
sketchb0xany idears ArmedGeek?09:23
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martinjh99!info kernel-headers09:24
ubotuPackage kernel-headers does not exist in dapper09:24
cpk1|awayhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingFromWindows lynoure?09:24
__osh__what's the quick-key for switching desktops in kde these days?09:24
Healotmaybe because the faq on wiki has no spacing09:24
cpk1|awayfirst hit09:24
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cpk1"Migrating From Windows To ubuntu documentation" gave me that link as first result...09:25
martinjh99What package is the Kernel Headers in? Need it for compiling Vmware Kernel Modules...09:25
Lynourecpk1: looks like something that should be on the topic on in the channel faq if such thing existed. Would prolly weed out at least handful of questions a day09:26
Healot!find headers09:26
ubotuFound: libxaw-headers, libxmu-headers, linux-headers-2.6.15-23, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-386, linux-headers-2.6.15-23-686 (and 33 others)09:26
Healot!info linux-headers09:26
ubotuPackage linux-headers does not exist in dapper09:26
Healot!info linux-headers-38609:26
ubotulinux-headers-386: Linux kernel headers on 386. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB09:26
Healot!info linux-headers-68609:26
ubotulinux-headers-686: Linux kernel headers on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15.23 (dapper), package size 22 kB, installed size 52 kB09:26
Lynourecpk1: documentation prolly was the magic word. instead of howto09:26
cpk1but its so much easier to have someone tell you exactly what to do than read it =P09:27
martinjh99Got them thanks Healot!09:27
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Healotmartinjh99: the most catchy way to install is "apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)"09:29
Lynourecpk1: Indeed, but I think I'll link it to my blog anyway, so that maybe someone will read it (but no one reads my blog...)09:29
sketchb0xman this kde x issue is buggin me out09:33
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sketchb0x(0)(0)09:34
Healotwhat issue?09:34
anany app can open chm file in kde?09:35
Healot!find chm09:35
ubotuFound: fetchmail, archmbox, fetchmailconf, gnochm, kchmviewer (and 8 others)09:35
Healot!info kchmviewer09:36
ubotukchmviewer: CHM viewer for KDE. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.3a-1 (dapper), package size 171 kB, installed size 568 kB09:36
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cpk1lynoure: that wiki seems to be pretty helpful for a new person i suppose, still seems pretty general though09:37
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anthanku09:37
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jaroHmm maybe another trial configuring of the Laptop Monitor ????09:39
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defaulthi all09:44
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sketchb0xyo09:45
defaultis anyone able to assist me with installing gcc? (I'm a complete noob)09:45
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Hobbsee!b-e09:45
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)09:45
sarahghi09:46
Hobbseesk3tchb0x: sudo apt-get install build-essential09:46
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Hobbseehey sarahg09:46
Healot!info build-essential09:46
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB09:46
sk3tchb0xhobbsee, for my twinview issue?09:46
Hobbseesk3tchb0x: sorry, that should have gone to default09:47
sk3tchb0xcool09:47
Hobbseesk3tchb0x: not a clue w.r.t. twinview09:48
Hobbsee(oh good.  everything will stop highligting like crazy now :P)09:48
default!info gcc09:48
ubotugcc: The GNU C compiler. In repository main, is optional. Version 4:4.0.3-1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB09:48
Healotthe dualmonitor configuration for nvidia graphics accelerator09:49
Healot!info twinview09:49
ubotuPackage twinview does not exist in dapper09:49
Healot!find twin09:49
ubotuFound: twin, twinkle09:49
Healot!info twin09:50
ubotutwin: a Text mode WINdow environment. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5.1-1 (dapper), package size 424 kB, installed size 1452 kB09:50
Healothoho funny09:50
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anany app can read all pdf ,pdg and caj file?09:54
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Healotwhat are those in the first place09:55
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anhealot?09:55
anwut u mean09:55
Healotwhat files are these pdg caj?09:55
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Healotplease don;t give extension of probably unpopular format09:56
bowler_iainHow can09:56
bowler_iainhow do you install flaash on to linux09:56
Healot!flash > bowler_iain09:56
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anhealot,unpopular? there are lots of files of these 3 format09:57
bowler_iainhow do you install flash player09:57
Hobbsee!flash09:57
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:57
HealotI am not in the electronic documentation business09:58
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HealotI don;t know then09:58
lowtechHobbsee: how would i get it to send me something in /msg, or can it do that?09:58
anokanyway ,thanku09:59
Hobbseelowtech: sure, !whateveryouwanttobetoldabout > lowtech09:59
lowtechHobbsee: thanks10:00
Hobbseeor !tell lowtech about whatever10:00
lowtechok10:00
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Healot!info india10:03
ubotuPackage india does not exist in dapper10:03
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BoSJoHi all: where do I find the [apt-get]  commands?10:04
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Healotman apt-get10:05
Healotoh man... I love you, man10:05
BoSJoHealot: thanks10:06
HobbseeBoSJo: also apt-get --help or apt-get -h10:06
grotheskHello!10:06
floi have this problem....libcairo is upgradable and when i try to do that i get upgrade (break) and gnome is giviing me a lot of error mesegez , is inusable, nothing works anymore, how can i get to know wich package enters in conflict with libcairo?i actualy use kubuntu10:07
Healotto get full documentation of most Linux program, "man"10:07
grotheskI'm searching for a kradio version for Dapper. May I use this .deb? http://debian.cn99.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kradio/10:07
defaultyeah, like... "man apt-get"10:07
crimsun!info kradio10:07
ubotuPackage kradio does not exist in dapper10:07
Healotflo: "apt-get -f install"10:07
crimsungrothesk: you can try10:08
bowler_iaintheres nothing to do with install flash player10:08
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Healotgrothesk: i think so...10:08
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grotheskHow can I tell for which ubuntu is that 'universe'-tree?10:08
crimsungrothesk: you can't unless you read the Packages file10:09
Healotgrothesk: you can sort that using adept or synaptic10:10
grotheskHow can I read them?10:11
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grotheskBTW: How would I use adept to install a local .deb?10:12
bowler_iainLynoure: Help10:12
senseidpkg -i10:13
senseiAh sry10:13
floHealot: libcairo2: Dipende: libfreetype6 (>= 2.2.1) ma 2.1.10-1ubuntu2.1is going to be installed , i can't get the sense of that10:13
Healotjust press y10:13
Healotand it should isntall all the dependencies10:13
crimsunflo: pastebin ``apt-cache policy libcairo2''10:14
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grotheskflo, this dependency is not to be resolved by now.10:16
uniqmorning.10:16
grotheskMaybe try later.10:16
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grotheskflo, is that a .deb provided by beerorkid?10:21
flogrothesk, i think i gotit, i have 500 http://www.beerorkid.com dapper/main Packages , and i'll comentit then apt-get update, right?10:21
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crimsunyes.10:22
crimsunexternal repos are generally bad.10:22
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grotheskSometimes 3rd-party repos may cause trouble.10:23
grotheskAs in this case...10:23
floi realy experinced that on my own ....good to know for the future10:23
flothx10:23
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Lynourebowler_iain: hmm?10:30
Lynourebowler_iain: When you just ask "Help", it sounds like you are drowning or something. So what's the matter?10:33
bowler_iain how do you install flash player on linux10:34
crimsuninstall flashplugin-nonfree from multiverse10:34
bowler_iaincrimsun: i've tryied that10:35
crimsunbowler_iain: what Web browser are you usinG?10:36
bowler_iainkonqueror10:37
crimsunbowler_iain: ls /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/10:37
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bowler_iainnothing10:38
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guptawhere are the network profiles stored ppl?10:38
crimsunbowler_iain: then it probably failed to install due to mirror (network) problems, which is a known issue10:38
guptaI can find the individual files for my default profile in /etc/resolv.con /etc/network . But if I add another profile, its settings are nowhere to be found .10:39
Lynourebowler_iain: you can also go to the macromedia site and install flash from there.10:39
crimsunbowler_iain: follow my instructions timestamped "2006-06-17 21:03:36 EDT" at https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/4862010:39
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Lynourehmmm...10:43
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cpk1actually crimsun dont you mean your post on the 18th? =P10:44
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[Nige] anyone got mplayer pr8 installed yet?10:46
crimsuncpk1: ?10:47
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Zaireok mandriva channel is dictator styles in their language policy10:47
LynoureZaire: well, swearing is not welcome here either.10:48
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Zairethey gave me hell for saying damn10:48
LynoureZaire: sqitch to Ubuntu and we'll be glad to help you :)10:49
ZaireI haven't had anyone tell me to watch my mouth over saying that word in atleast 17 years10:49
Zaireif I had an ATI card I would switch10:49
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Zairewell I can see the harsher words of nature like everyones fav F word lol10:50
LynoureZaire: there is probably some general linux support channel as well10:50
Zairemy issue is just trying to get tor and Privoxy setup10:51
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cpk1i looked at that link you gave crimsun because i was interested, the timestamp you gave was a different poster than you and didnt have that workaround that you posted on the 18th10:51
HobbseeZaire: yeah, most people dont get away with that - although occasionally it will happen in dev channels, out of extreme frustration10:51
Zaireso I see10:52
cpk1zaire i got kicked from a channel for saying "crap"10:52
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Zaireyea thats kinda ridiculous10:52
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crimsuncpk1: the timestamps may differ according to your localtime10:53
ZaireI would love to run one of the Ubuntu family but my nvidia FX 5200 creates major instabilities10:53
Zairedon't know why cause I can run debian just fine10:53
cpk1looks like its UTC, not 100% sure though =P10:54
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guptaZaire: have you tried proxomitron ? It works great with wine10:55
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Zairenopes dunno if its as good as tor though10:56
guptano its a replacement for privoxy10:56
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Zairedoes anyone know how to find out what kind of chipset your running, my manual doesn't appear to say10:57
ZaireI have a Foxconn mobo10:57
grotheskZaire, try 'lspci'10:57
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grothesk0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN400/PM880 Host Bridge10:58
grotheskThat is my chipset.10:58
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Zaireadvanced microdevices I think is what mine is10:59
Zairewhat else hardware wise would ubuntu be incompatible with?10:59
crimsunUbuntu can't run on a 1948 toaster.11:00
[Nige] is anyone using an ati card with kde and dual monitors properly?11:00
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LynoureZaire: you can try ubuntu livecd to get some kind of idea how compatible it with your hardware. It's great for that11:01
ArmedGeekati cart != proper11:01
ArmedGeek*card11:01
[Nige] ArmedGeek, pardon?11:01
LynoureArmedGeek: what would be proper? At least Radeon X600 worked easily and well :)11:02
ZaireI have a Sempron 3100+  64Bit western digital 160 gig HD Nvidia FX5200 128 meg DDR foxcon mainboard and an LG 16x cd burner oh yea and my ram is an Azen 512 chip and a samsung 25611:02
ArmedGeek nvidia11:02
[Nige] Lynoure, when you login do you have to type xrandr -s XX11:02
Lynoure[Nige] : No, but I don't have dual monitors, fyi. Just a lappy.11:03
[Nige] cheers :)11:03
[Nige] dual monitors under linux is annoying or painfull with ati11:03
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LynoureArmedGeek: they work beautifully out of the box nowadays?11:04
robmy kpanel just died, what is the actual name of it to get it back?11:04
tsdgeoskicker11:04
ArmedGeekLynoure: i've been rrunning nvidia card with TwinView dual displays for quite some time.11:04
robcheers tsdgeos11:05
Zaireand Ive tried Kubuntu LTS dapper, plain Kubuntu dapper, Xubuntu Dapper, Kubuntu dapper 64 bit, ubuntu 64 bit, Ubuntu i386, Kubuntu i386 they all crash pretty much consistantly and I mean total lock up and never at the same point11:05
LynoureArmedGeek: That's not what I asked. :) But good for you.11:06
Zairewhat I would like to know is what did they do to the xorg when they changed it to the newer version from the one that debian uses11:07
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Zairecause I can run debian pretty much 100% stable11:08
LynoureZaire: in that case you should be able to run Ubuntu just fine11:08
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Zairethats what I don't get it should but it won't :S11:08
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ZaireIve tried every possible fix that has been done and some successfully and in the end it stops crashing for 2 days which is the longest I went without a crash then it starts back up again :S11:10
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LynoureZaire: you probably don't remember what you got in the logs from the crash?11:11
Zairenopes but I assume since I checked the bugzilla site for ubuntu for nvidia+crash that it was the issue cause a friend of mine got it to work with his system and he has an X800 XL11:12
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Zairedunno I seem to have bad luck with OS lol11:12
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|lostbyte|Zaire, so your blaming the nvidia card ?11:15
|lostbyte|the graphic cards..11:16
Zairejust looking at the possibilities and so far that seems the most likely since on the bugzilla site I found like 26 pages of results from my query11:16
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ZaireI really don't know why it won't work but just know I want to really move away from windows and as quick as I can lol11:18
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|lostbyte|Zaire, what motherboard ? processor ? ram ? exta hardware ? ... just in case i come across something ..11:20
Zairefoxconn board, AMD sempron 3100 64bit proc, azen an samsung ram, western digital 160 gig HD11:21
Zaireand the nvidia11:21
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atulhello can anyone help me with a small problem starting gvim?11:22
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atulI get the following message everytime I launch gvim: /bin/sh: /usr/bin/esd: No such file or directory11:23
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MidMarkhi11:24
|lostbyte|Zaire, ok ! where does it crash with the Kubuntu 32bit version, again ?11:24
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jarodo I have to configure additional monitors to be able to switch displays ???11:25
Zaireno particular point really just random and related to either adept, konverstaion, gaim, kopete, konquerer, or firefox just depends on which is feels like choosing I guess11:25
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|lostbyte|Zaire, Could you remove one ram and see if the problem persist.11:25
Zairesometimes as soon as I login11:25
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Zairecould prob try that yea but gonna be a pissoff if its one of the chips lol11:26
|lostbyte|:)11:26
MidMarkwhy to boot a program at startup I need to put the script into rc2,3,4,5?11:26
ZaireI only have 768 megs in my system lol11:26
|lostbyte|Zaire, worth a try..11:26
|lostbyte|Zaire, i am just cutting down hardware possiblities..11:27
Zairethen I guess Im gonna take the samsung out first since its the 256 chip11:27
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|lostbyte|ok11:27
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MidMarkany idea?11:28
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|lostbyte|jaro, yes, i belive so..11:28
nico8481hi11:28
Zairedunno when Im gonna try re-installing Kubuntu but I know it will involve a full format11:28
jaro|lostbyte|:  hm, then i have a problem , because i have too configure the actual LCD Display too, but I dont know how11:29
Zairemake about the 35th Ive done this month lol11:29
|lostbyte|Zaire, Thats so Fustrating..11:29
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Zaireyea your not kidding lol but I suppose Ive gotten used to it lol11:29
|lostbyte|MidMark, what type of script ?11:30
MidMark|lostbyte|: in general, I don't understand why some scripts have to starts from 4 dirs in rc11:30
Zairewell I guess I could try a full re-install now just may take me about 20 min or so lol11:31
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|lostbyte|MidMark, Is'nt that the X initilization dir..11:31
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Zaireno guarantee that I will be back on irc tonight if it doesn't work still11:31
Zairesince that was one of the point it like to crash at lol11:32
|lostbyte|Zaire, SO your on that pc ? right now..11:32
MidMark|lostbyte|: what? I mean rc2.d 3,4 and 511:32
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Zaireyeps I only have one machine11:32
Zairegonna build a new one once I have the money11:32
|lostbyte|Zaire, So what are u running on ? windblows ?11:32
Zairenopes lol I dumped that but for mandriva lol11:33
Zaireonly one aside from redhat 9 that I can run stable...well that and debian11:33
|lostbyte|ok !11:34
Zaireis there anyway to swap xorg for xfree86?11:34
|lostbyte|Zaire, SO you have a sepertate partition with ubuntu ?11:34
Zairenopes11:34
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Zairewould be nice if I did though11:35
|lostbyte|Zaire, huh ! i dont think so..11:35
|lostbyte|But you can if you want to compile it..11:35
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dakinespeaking of partitions...i want to use partition magic to create linux parts for a dual boot with windblows...but seems linux users are against part mgc. how else can i partition my drive???11:36
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Zairewhy would I need to compile anything Ive run winblows and kubuntu side by side before11:36
alucardhi11:36
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alucardwho know how i can install and ati x800gt graphic driver with 3d acceleration?11:37
|lostbyte|you wanted the xfree86 which has been depricated..11:37
senseidakine: There's hundreds of ways, but if you want to do it with partition magic.. just do i11:37
gatekeeperdakine: you didn't like my suggestion of GParted??11:37
senseidakine: Some say that the partitions it creates are rubbish.. but you can still format them in the installation process11:38
senseiSo just go with whatever rocks your boat11:38
alucardthanks11:38
Zairewell Xfree is the only xserver other then debians xorg that worked for me11:38
dakinehow can i load a linuc prog unless i have linux??? it wont run under windows so i can then install linux11:38
senseisure11:38
|lostbyte|dakine, with the linux installer its self. while you install kubuntu it will let you make those changes..11:38
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dakinesoou are sayin the install process will let me partition???11:40
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|lostbyte|dakine, yes.11:40
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dakineok...whew tkz!11:40
|lostbyte|dakine, :P sure..11:41
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|lostbyte|MidMark, what are you looking for ?11:43
MidMark|lostbyte|: for an explaination of the differences between rc2.d 3, 4 and 511:44
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MidMarkwhy there are 4 different stages?11:44
Zaireyou gonna be on tomorrow lostbyte?11:44
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|lostbyte|Zaire, hopefully..11:45
Muki-EXNTFS + Folders with Japanese text = no go?11:45
Muki-EXI'm not getting any folders that start with Japanese text to show up in Konqueror or the Terminal.11:45
Zairewell i'll see about doing a multi partition and testing the ram theory tonight and hopefully be on tomorrow11:45
clausMidMark: http://www.iodynamics.com/education/runlevel.html11:45
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zorglu1pff i wanted to *see* it :)11:46
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|lostbyte|MidMark, there you go ^11:47
Zairewell if I don't see ya tomorrow thanks for the help its appreciated but more then likely i'll be on tomorrow lol11:47
|lostbyte|Zaire, Best of Luck !11:47
Zairei'll need it laters11:47
|lostbyte|Zaire, its better you make a seperate partiton to debug this..11:48
Zaireyeps always good lol11:48
MidMarkclaus: the problem I know this, but WHY when you have a script often it should be present in runlevels from 2 to 5 and not only 511:48
|lostbyte|MidMark, Cuase it is run in sequence..11:49
|lostbyte|MidMark, If one is skiped your system will crash..11:49
|lostbyte|MidMark, 2 - 5 is for multi-user11:50
Muki-EXAnyone? ^_^11:50
zorglu1Muki-EX: retransmit :)11:50
Muki-EXI can't see any Japanese text in NTFS drives.11:51
MidMark|lostbyte|: yes, but why a script like for example cupsys should start from 2, and from 3 and from 4 and from 5?11:51
Muki-EXFor folders that *start* with Japanese text, this makes them invisible.11:51
MidMarkwhat it has to do in 4 stages that cannot do in one?11:51
zorglu1MidMark: to explain the rationnal behind some like the boot process of unix can not be done on irc in a reasonable time. like 10min :)11:51
Muki-EXzorglul : This is problematic when half of the folders in my music collection (3,000 some odd files) are like this =(11:52
|lostbyte|MidMark, you can chage that, up to you.. but thats the system default..11:52
zorglu1Muki-EX: i dont like japanesse music :)11:52
zorglu1Muki-EX: kidding :)11:52
Muki-EXHeh, np, it's not for everyone =P11:52
Muki-EXIf there was a way to remove the text in batch I'd do it.11:52
zorglu1Muki-EX: i think there is a charset option for mount, let me look11:52
MidMarkzorglu1: that is a pitty11:53
Muki-EXThanks, zorglul.11:53
|lostbyte|MidMark, Its really complex.. you will notice that those files are linked and interlinked..11:53
Muki-EXOn another note, whenever I mount a drive under sudo my default user can't access it. Is there a way to change permissions on a mounted folder?11:53
|lostbyte|MidMark, they all redirect to one simple dir.. /etc/init.rc/11:53
MidMark|lostbyte|: yes but I cannot understand the rational behind this as said by zorglu111:54
|lostbyte|MidMark,huh ! what did he say ?11:55
zorglu1MidMark: i said nothing, so yes you have trouble understanding it :)11:55
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zorglu1MidMark: and many resource allow you to learn system design on the web or library or bookshop11:55
zorglu1mount -o codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-1,utf8 /dev/sdb1 /mnt <- Muki-EX this is the base11:56
zorglu1Muki-EX: what is your usual mount command for you ntfs ?11:56
Muki-EXzorglu1 : Thanks =)11:56
Muki-EXI just put it in fstab11:56
MidMarkzorglu1 you have understand that I want to know the meaning of this desing, I know you haven't explained nothing11:56
Muki-EXI don't mount manually ^^11:56
|lostbyte|MidMark, he told you  http://www.iodynamics.com/education/runlevel.html11:57
zorglu1MidMark: so you have books, and webpage and experience to get :) and this is not my fault if it cant be done here on irc :)11:57
zorglu1Muki-EX: ok looking for codepage/iocharset for japanese11:57
zorglu1Muki-EX: else you can use krename, an apps to rename file in batch :)11:58
MidMarkzorglu1: I haven't said that it's your fault... guys are you understanding what you want to understand :)11:58
MidMark|lostbyte|: no11:58
MidMark|lostbyte|: the link doesn't explain why it's like this11:58
zorglu1hehe11:58
zorglu1MidMark: man you wont get such explaination here11:59
|lostbyte|zorglu1, sjis, jis7, eucjp11:59
zorglu1we are trying to tell you11:59
MidMarkzorglu1: I have just understand, you are continue telling me, I'm not asking more than one :)11:59
zorglu1MidMark: cool :)12:00
|lostbyte|MidMark, to go into any mode type init <mode_no>12:00
|lostbyte|MidMark, Experiance each..12:00
zorglu1damn this non english charset is painfull :)12:00
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zorglu1Muki-EX: do like me, forget your native language and use english :)12:00
clausMidMarK: that depends on your system, on debian I use generally runlevel 5, on ubuntu there is a default runlevel 2. Commonly it is enough to put your start scripts in the according runlevels. but if you reall want to relay on the runlevel for support purposes then you should use the common behavior. there are tools in the repositorys to do that for you, see man update-rc.d12:01
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zorglu1Muki-EX: is the krename option ok for you ?12:01
MidMark|lostbyte|: you are still trying to explain me WHAT are runlevels, I don't know how to tell you that I need to know WHY it's like this... do you understand the difference between WHAT and WHY? Anyway it doesn't matter12:01
Muki-EXzorglul : English IS my native language. I have no control over the folder names, as iTunes makes them from CDDB. There's over 1000 files I'd have to rename it.12:02
zorglu1q. why init process is 0 ?12:02
Muki-EX*have to rename12:02
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paolo_prova12:02
zorglu1Muki-EX: ok :)12:02
paolo_mi serve un piccolo aiuto per le icone di kubuntu12:02
|lostbyte|MidMark, Ok ! they are like that because, you have to have cups started even in runlevel 2 or 3 because if you deside to run it with out x its will still run..12:02
Muki-EXIf I knew a way to batch-remove the text I'd do it ;)12:02
paolo_hello12:03
zorglu1http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS6753305216.html <- One-third of Japanese engineers willing switch to desktop Linux12:03
Muki-EXWhat's the flag in mount for ro ntfs drive?12:03
paolo_I have download a icon from kde-look12:03
zorglu1offtopic but found it on the way to japanese ntufp12:03
paolo_How I can install it???12:03
MidMark|lostbyte|: oleeeee :) millions of msgs to understand... probably my english is poor :)12:03
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zorglu1Muki-EX: to show 'readonly'12:03
MidMark|lostbyte|: ok this is a good exaplaination12:03
MidMark|lostbyte|: thanx12:04
|lostbyte|MidMark, If you noticed all your services are running even if your in Console mode with out X..12:04
arso_hey lostbye12:04
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|lostbyte|arso_, Hi there, dude..12:04
arso_|lostbyte|:  wats up , i got a new problem12:04
|lostbyte|arso_, Really ! now cute.. :P12:04
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zorglu1mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows -t ntfs -r -o iocharset=iso8859-212:04
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MidMarkpaolo_: ciao, is it so simple, install and put into it the file you doenloaded12:05
kroyerhi12:05
Muki-EXThanks =312:05
arso_|lostbyte|:  :P, my torrents on ktorrent are SLOW i gotta 512connection which does 63max on windows,but here its 15 and below !!12:05
zorglu1MidMark: try adapting the above command with iocharset= to one of the sjis, jis7, eucjp12:05
zorglu1MidMark: the command is from http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en12:06
zorglu1MidMark: btw before trying to mount manually unmount the previous mount :)12:06
Muki-EXbrb12:06
MidMarkzorglu1: I'm not mounting at all :)12:07
|lostbyte|arso_, could be your ISP.. i know of isp's that slow down spesific ports.. or it could be a slow torrent..12:07
dakinealoha...12:07
|lostbyte|zorglu1, what'nt that for Muki-EX  ?12:07
jc-dentonwhere is the hibernate button under kubuntu?12:08
zorglu1lostbyte, he has a ntfs partition with japanese char in it and would like to see them12:08
|lostbyte|jc-denton, under the sleep button !12:08
zorglu1and i never used the whole charset thing :)12:08
|lostbyte|jc-denton, just joking :P12:08
arso_|lostbyte|:  but, it cant be my isp, since its on windows12:09
arso_|lostbyte|:  and its 4 torrents, all with good seeds and ratios.12:09
|lostbyte|iocharset=euc-jp or iocharset=utf8 sourld work fine..12:09
zorglu1MidMark: ^ for you :)12:10
|lostbyte|arso_, ktorrent on windows ?12:10
zorglu1arso_: i smell nat :)12:10
zorglu1arso_: have you a port forwarding12:10
jc-dentonalso if i press the power button the system shuts down immediately12:11
MidMarkzorglu1: I'm not mounting :))12:11
zorglu1for once i got something in my area of expertise12:11
jc-dentonand does not show such a dialog as under gnome12:11
zorglu1MidMark: what do you mean ? not seeing file on a not mounted partition is normal :)12:11
MidMarkzorglu1: are you missunderstanding people, I have asked only for runlevels :)12:12
zorglu1ah sorry12:12
Cavallohow could I change panel look ?12:12
zorglu1i was confused with Muki-EX12:12
MidMarkCavallo: system settings -> panels12:12
zorglu1Muki-EX: my previous message to MidMark, have you read them ?12:13
MidMarkCavallo: or aspect12:13
arso_zorglu1:  yes,port forwarde12:13
arso_zorglu1:  just not sure if i did it right12:13
arso_|lostbyte|:  utorrent on windows, ktorrent on linux12:13
zorglu1arso_: from your description, the port forwarding it no good12:13
|lostbyte|jc-denton, Didt find a use for it.. but here http://www.suspend2.net/12:14
CavalloMidMark: aspect ?12:14
zorglu1arso_: azureus allows you to test the port forwarding, i dunno for ktorrent12:14
zorglu1arso_: well we can do a little test. what is the 'public port' of your port forwarding ?12:14
MidMarkCavallo: don't know english translation, check the first two icons in system settings12:15
arso_zorglu1:  uumm ? :P meaning12:15
|lostbyte|arso_, there is also an online test --> http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl12:15
arso_|lostbyte|:  checking it out12:15
jc-dentonno i mean12:15
jc-dentonunder ubuntu i can just click on suspend12:16
arso_|lostbyte|:  " hash id of the torrent"?12:16
jc-dentonerr hibernate12:16
jc-dentoni installed kubuntu-desktop12:16
jc-dentonand there is no such thing12:16
jc-dentonalso i have the problem that kdm is not loaeded automatically12:16
jc-dentoni did dpkg-reconfigure kdm12:16
jc-dentonand choosed kdm12:16
|lostbyte|arso_, yes ! the weird no you have with torrents..12:16
|lostbyte|paste it there..12:16
arso_|lostbyte|:  umm where can i get it from an active torrent on ktorrent please12:16
|lostbyte|something like.. 76S8DF7A68DF8A7SD68FF12:17
|lostbyte|example ^12:17
zorglu1arso_: when you did the port forwarding you re ssupposed to have a public and local port12:17
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|lostbyte|arso_, should be on the line where you see yout download list..12:17
arso_|lostbyte|:  ok i am there,12:17
arso_zorglu1:  is there any tool that configures port forwarding automatically12:18
zorglu1arso_: nope.12:18
|lostbyte|arso_, sorry, got mixed up with some other client.. are you on ktorrent now ?12:18
arso_|lostbyte|:  yes, ktorrent12:18
zorglu1arso_: wait you said it was ok on window ?12:18
arso_zorglu1:  ya, my speeds were fine12:18
|lostbyte|brb 5 mins12:19
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zorglu1arso_: ok so my diagnostic is (i) your port forwarding isnt working (ii) window did a upnp automatically12:19
zorglu1arso_: you may try to install azureus, it has upnp and port forwarding checker12:19
RawSewageok, how do you fix the problem where it says another instance of Adept is running12:19
arso_zorglu1:  but isnt azureus  a resource leech and stufF?i only have 1gb ram12:20
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zorglu1arso_: azureus requires more resource than ktorrent, but run without issue on 1gb ram12:20
zorglu1if anything it will help you debug your issue12:20
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arso_zorglu1:  u sure it wont slow everything up12:21
arso_zorglu1:  so it has a linux kubuntu version?12:21
zorglu1take the linux version, it run on any distribution12:21
zorglu1RawSewage: there is a lock file somewhere12:21
zorglu1RawSewage: or maybe there is a problem with the database12:22
jc-dentonsoo do i have to suspend my box in the cli or is there a chance that i can press on the powerbutton or something?12:22
zorglu1RawSewage: try a 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'12:22
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billdhaHello,i run Kasbar and then i turn it off ,but now on panel theres no application show,how to fix this problem12:22
RawSewagezorglu1, thx, didnt work.  I'll try sudo top12:23
|lostbyte|arso_, no !12:24
|lostbyte|dont ktorrent is the best...12:24
zorglu1no :)12:24
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|lostbyte|zorglu1, what me to prove it ?12:24
zorglu1hehe go ahead :)12:25
omeowktorrent is hardly the best (for me)12:25
zorglu1but dont forget it is unprovable by definition :)12:25
zorglu1as 'best' is a very fuzzy criteria12:25
omeowExactly.12:25
omeowI do agree that the UI looks great, but internally it seems to be missing things.12:26
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omeowIt takes ages for transfers to start, even when the correct ports are forwarded.12:26
|lostbyte|arso_, are you there ?12:26
omeowTorrent on windows is my favorite.12:26
omeowHopefully ktorrent can use that as its example.12:27
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zorglu1omeow: offtopic, but why do you like utorrent ?12:27
zorglu1omeow: im a p2p dev and want to know what people want :)12:27
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|lostbyte|zorglu1, You could be right, but could you name the advance feature of azeurus ?12:27
|lostbyte|any*12:28
omeowzorglu1: That's easy to answer.12:28
zorglu1lostbyte, well i wont enter in any war like that :) but it is a direct part of my full day job to know that :)12:29
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omeowI like Torrent (which I switched to from azureus) because it was so much faster thatn azureus, it was more minimal, and provided the basic things I need in a torrent client.12:29
zorglu1http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ <- can provide info on azureus12:29
omeow- Like I said before, it's much much faster and smaller12:29
zorglu1omeow: faster as in 'using less CPU' or 'downloading faster' ?12:29
omeowIn size12:29
|lostbyte|zorglu1, nice..12:29
|lostbyte|zorglu1, what part you work under ?12:30
omeowdownloading speed is irrelevant12:30
omeowIt was just smaller in size and faster as in using less CPU power.12:30
omeow- I can control the speed of individual torrents and the global speed12:30
zorglu1omeow: ok so you need 'basic feature and using resource in a reasonable manner, so you can forget it is running in background' :)12:31
omeow- I can select which files I want to download12:31
arso_|lostbyte|:  so sorrry12:31
arso_|lostbyte|:  was away a bit12:31
arso_|lostbyte|:  u were saying12:31
|lostbyte|arso_, ok ! your on ktorret ?12:31
zorglu1lostbyte, i do p2p , i dont work on azureus itself, but yes i do know the bt protocol :) and azureus is by far the most advanced of all implementation12:31
omeowalso the slowest, don't forget to mention that. =P12:32
|lostbyte|ok !12:32
omeowAt least, back when I was using that, startup time was long and it took long for transfers to start.12:32
|lostbyte|zorglu1, whats that feature called where u can do file selection ?12:33
zorglu1the 'allow to forget it is running in background' is real important :)12:33
omeowTorrent starts in a sec and transfers start quite fast too, I guess it mostly depends on the tracker though.12:33
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zorglu1lostbyte ?12:33
zorglu1i dont understand the question12:34
|lostbyte|zorglu1, the chunks you want to download from a torrent and not the whole torrent itself.12:34
RawSewageKTorrent does that12:34
RawSewageit asks you which files you want to download12:34
RawSewagefor example, if it's a torrrent with 10 shows12:34
RawSewageyou click which ones you want to download12:34
|lostbyte|RawSewage, yeha ! i know.. but whats that called ?12:34
zorglu1lostbyte yep you can choose the file you want to download within the torretn12:34
zorglu1oh the name of this particular feature12:35
zorglu1i dunno12:35
|lostbyte|yup !12:35
arso_|lostbyte|:  yes, on utorrent12:35
arso_|lostbyte|:  umm how do i dowload azureus12:35
|lostbyte|arso_, yoru having problem on linux right ?12:35
RawSewagewhat do I install so I can compile12:35
arso_|lostbyte|:  thru adeot?12:35
arso_|lostbyte|:  no linux is fine12:35
|lostbyte|RawSewage, build-essential.12:35
RawSewagety12:36
|lostbyte|arso_, your having a windows problem ?12:37
omeow|lostbyte|: I assume it's called file selection? :)12:37
|lostbyte|omeow, are you sure, cause thats what i call it..12:37
|lostbyte|:P12:37
jc-dentonaarrrgh12:37
omeowWhy would it be wrong?12:37
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jc-dentoni want a button now where i can click on it and then it hibernates12:38
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jc-dentonbut i cannot find that12:38
|lostbyte|omeow, maybe your right..12:38
|lostbyte|tx12:38
croogerhi everyone :-)12:38
arso_bo12:38
omeowYes, my right.12:39
|lostbyte|jc-denton, on your keyboard ?12:39
croogeranyone knowns how to install .kth file ? (theme?)12:39
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|lostbyte|crooger, kcmshell kthememanager12:41
|lostbyte|in console, or run ^12:41
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jc-denton|lostbyte|: it would be cool if i get a dialog when pressing the powerbutton (smiliar to the gnome dekstop)12:42
jc-dentonbut a button on the desktop would also be enoug12:42
jc-dentonenough12:42
croogerthx |lostbyte|12:43
senseijc-denton: Can't you just edit /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn ?12:44
senseiAnd followed by /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh12:45
jc-dentonso that it hibernates when pressing the pwerbutton?12:45
senseiYeah12:45
RawSewagewhats that klipboard app called12:45
zorglu1oh i will look this one12:45
jc-dentonhumm12:45
jc-dentona dialog would be nice12:45
zorglu1my computer doesnt even shutdown when i press powerbutton, it just stop the alim :)12:46
senseiGet xdialog and hack the script ;)12:46
|lostbyte|RawSewage, klipper12:46
RawSewagethx12:46
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|lostbyte|sensei, loooks like hibernation / suspend is kernel dependent..12:46
jc-denton# Otherwise, if KDE is found, try to ask it to logout.12:46
jc-denton# If KDE is not found, just shutdown now.12:46
jc-dentonah12:46
sensei|lostbyte|: Of course it is12:46
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jc-dentonit does not find kde here12:47
senseiIt is possible to do in userland though, with suspend212:47
jc-dentonotherwise it would display the logout dialog12:47
jc-dentonhumm12:47
jc-dentonmy (k)ubuntu is broken :(12:47
|lostbyte|sensei, thats what i told him..12:47
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senseijc-denton: Remove the checking altogether ;) Just assume it's there12:48
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senseiBut that's just for asking it to logout, you don't even want that when hibernating12:48
|lostbyte|brb 10mins12:49
jc-dentonno i want the dialog first12:49
jc-dentonprobably i also want to do something else12:49
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senseijc-denton: Yeah, so get xdialog and add a line or two to the script12:49
jc-dentonand it's annoying if you press it acientally12:49
jc-dentonbut it should work12:49
jc-dentoni think i'll have to debug this12:49
senseiWhat's not working?12:50
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jc-dentonit does not recognize kde12:51
senseiIt's not logging out you mean?12:51
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arso_the funny thing is, my upload is going full speed !:S12:54
HowitzerHi, i have a problem with the KDE network settings12:54
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arso_doesnt this group therapy rock112:55
raziel_hello12:55
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Howitzeri can ONLY connect to the internet when using 'iwconfig ath0 key open -key-' then 'iwconfig ath0 essid -essid_name-' and then doing 'dhclient ath0'12:55
Howitzerthat's the only way12:55
Howitzeras soon as i use DHCP in the KDE networking stuff, i recieve 'Network Unreachable' when pinging my gateway12:56
raziel_can someone help me to install quake 2?12:56
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Howitzerraziel_: i think there is a Loki Installer for it12:57
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|lostbyte|raziel_, works fine for me.. in wine..12:58
RawSewageAfter I build /   make a program, and it installs to usr/local12:58
RawSewagecan I delete the original folder12:58
war95Anyone here do any benchmarking with SW RAID5 vs. chunk size in a performance analysis?12:59
Howitzerdoes the installer run with wine |lostbyte| ?12:59
RawSewagedoh, I shouldve checked adept12:59
|lostbyte|RawSewage, its best to keep the source and do make uninstall from it.12:59
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raziel_i downloaded 2 packets with adept12:59
RawSewageok thx12:59
RawSewageI bet it's in Adept12:59
RawSewageIm an idiot12:59
raziel_so I don't need them?12:59
|lostbyte|Howitzer, yes.. but i installed quake312:59
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Howitzertry running the installer with Wine then01:00
Howitzerbut can't noone help with my problem? :(01:00
|lostbyte|RawSewage, i was talking about a program you installed from source..not sr.deb01:00
|lostbyte|src*01:00
RawSewageyep, there it is01:00
RawSewageI know01:01
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RawSewageI guess I'll do make uninstall then01:01
RawSewageand reinstall with Adept01:01
RawSewageit's still building...01:01
Howitzeri thought of a possible solution but have no idea how to implement it... I made a bash script which does the iwconfig ath0 stuff and the dhclient ath0 stuff., I'd like to use that instead of the KDE networking tool01:01
dna_Howitzer: are you using wireless assistent or the network settings in system settings? I had strange problems with wireless assistent, not sure why it is included in kubuntu01:02
|lostbyte|sensei, suspend2 need to be compiled into the kernel..01:02
Howitzerdna_: network settings01:02
Howitzeris wireless assistant in kcontrol?01:02
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dna_no, its the last item in k-menu->internet01:03
Howitzerhmm01:03
Howitzeri'm going to try it01:03
Howitzermaybe it works :)01:03
|lostbyte|Howitzer, i dont think so..01:03
jc-dentonhumm the script works, sry01:04
jc-dentoni did not read the command exactly01:04
jc-dentonbut why shall it logout immediately01:04
Howitzerbut i find it weird that i can get everything with dhclient while the dhcp function in network settings doesn't work :/01:04
jc-dentonand not first display a dialog as ubuntu-desktop does?01:04
sensei|lostbyte|: Yes?01:04
|lostbyte|jc-denton, it works ?01:04
jc-dentonwell if 'logout' == logout and shutdown01:05
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dna_for me wireless assistent found my ap, I typed in my key but it did not connect to the ap properly and did not get a dhcp lease01:05
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senseijc-denton: And there's where xdialog comes into play :)01:05
|lostbyte|sensei, suspend2 need to be compiled into the kernel..01:05
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sensei|lostbyte|: Yes?01:05
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raziel_    /who freenode/staff/*01:06
jc-dentonhumm01:06
dna_Howitzer: tried rebooting after you typed in the correct key in network settings? Also check upper/lower case characters in essid01:06
jc-dentonok let me ask some more question01:06
|lostbyte|sensei, also... included since 2.5.18 in the main development kernel tree01:06
jc-dentonis it possible to get a hibernate button in the logout dialog (where konqui sleeps)01:07
|lostbyte|jc-denton, ^^ for you also..01:07
|lostbyte|jc-denton, i fear its not supported..01:07
sensei|lostbyte|: Where are you getting? :)01:07
jc-dentonand how can i open that dialog from the cli with dcop?01:07
|lostbyte|sensei, http://www.suspend2.net/HOWTO-2.html#ss2.301:07
jc-dentonnot supported?01:07
jc-dentonhibernate works under ubuntu01:07
jc-dentonkubuntu just does not seem to have a gui integration01:07
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raziel_nobody instaled quake 2 using the 2 packets into Adept?01:08
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sensei|lostbyte|: What does this has to do with me?01:08
sagarayes01:08
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|lostbyte|jc-denton, i dont know if the kernel is any diff for both, but the path shoud be included..01:08
Howitzerwlanassistant does it for me01:09
Howitzerjust had to select shared key and non-ascii01:09
|lostbyte|patch*01:09
Howitzerwill it do this every time i log in?01:09
|lostbyte|sensei, you were telling me that suspend2 is done on userland..01:09
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jc-dentonno the kernel is the same of course01:09
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sensei|lostbyte|: No, I'm saying that what he wants can be done in userland01:10
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|lostbyte|but not with suspend2..01:11
senseiFfs.. yes01:11
jc-dentonhibernate works here01:11
jc-dentonall i want is a button for hibernate in the kde logout dialog01:11
|lostbyte|jc-denton, your on ubuntu ?01:11
jc-dentonubuntu with kubuntu desktop01:11
senseiOf course a thing like suspension requires kernel involvement! 06:46:57 < sensei> |lostbyte|: Of course it is01:12
jc-dentonand a way to open the logout dialog from the shell01:12
senseiI was saying it can be done in userland, setting it up so that the powerbutton suspends01:12
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jc-dentonhumm01:13
|lostbyte|jc-denton, ok ! right click > create new > link to application.01:13
|lostbyte|sensei, ok !01:14
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Howitzerhmm01:14
Sansanahi01:14
Howitzerhow do i make the settings used by wlanassistant the default settings?01:15
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Howitzeroh nvm01:15
Howitzerhehe01:15
Howitzeram i damn glad my internet works01:16
Sansaname too:D01:16
Howitzeroh01:16
Howitzerwas just about to ask if anyone could say something to check if it really worked -_-01:16
Sansanadidn't want to work until I used iwconfig01:16
Howitzerwith me too!01:16
Sansanahehe, you're connected to server so looks like it works :)01:17
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Sansanathere's someting wrong with wl assistant I think >_>01:17
Howitzerbut Sansana, i discoverd i can solve it by simply using hexadecimal for the WEP key01:17
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|lostbyte|Howitzer, wlassistant ?01:17
Howitzerand wlanassistant worked fine for me when i used shared key and unchecked the ASCII box01:17
Howitzerof01:18
SansanaI just had to configure my wlan via wlconfig instead of wl assistant01:18
Howitzerwlanassisant wlassistant, all the same :D01:18
|lostbyte|Howitzer, i think its a bug, i cant even specify a ascii key there..01:18
Howitzerbut my wireless is called ath0 :/01:18
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Howitzerhmm01:19
Howitzeri think it is bugged01:19
Howitzerstarted it up 6 times01:19
|lostbyte|Howitzer, you can even set it in /etc/network/interface the way i do it..01:19
Howitzeryes but i have no idea how to work with that file01:19
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|lostbyte|Howitzer, man intrefaces01:19
|lostbyte|Howitzer, man wireless01:19
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Howitzerthey have a man page for wireless?01:20
Howitzerfuck01:20
|lostbyte|Howitzer, i usually dont trust gui for networking stuff..01:20
Howitzerand i discover that after a week01:20
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Estiquaaaziwhy when i start ktorrent it crashes and give the error signal 6(SIGABRT)???01:20
|lostbyte|:)01:20
Howitzeri don't mind using a GUI, as long as i can check the configuration file01:21
Sansana|lostbyte| indeed, gui didn't want to make my net working and console did >.>01:21
Howitzeryeeeeeeeeeeeha01:21
Howitzeri'm thrilled now01:21
|lostbyte|:)01:21
Howitzernow i can finally install the nvidia drivers, tremulousand wesnoth01:22
Howitzerwooo01:22
Sansana:D01:22
|lostbyte|Estiquaaazi, run ktorrent --debug in console.01:22
Howitzerand i'm going to try konqueror as a webbrowser for a while01:22
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Howitzersee if i like it01:22
SansanaHowitzer for nvidia drives i recommend easy ubuntu01:22
|lostbyte|Howitzer, you will..01:22
SansanaI miss my opera ;_;01:23
Howitzerwhat amazes me is that they have greasemonkey for konqueror :D01:23
HowitzerSansana: why don't you install it then?01:23
Sansanawell I'm a deviant, I really do not like having 2 or more web browsers ;p01:24
Howitzertyh01:24
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Howitzerrofl01:24
Howitzeri kind of hate that too, but when it's necessary..01:24
Howitzerdoes anybody know of a good rm to mpeg converter btw?01:24
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SansanaI don't01:25
|lostbyte|Howitzer, really ! link me..01:25
Howitzerhuh?01:25
dueyfinsterHowitzer: Sorry I don't know one01:25
|lostbyte|Howitzer, mencoder can do it with the right options..01:25
senseiCouldn't mencoder do that ?01:25
senseiYeah01:25
Howitzeroh01:25
Sansanahm... is there anything like amip for konversation and xmms? ( the now playing: thingy)01:25
Howitzerisn't that included with mplayer?01:25
senseiYeah01:26
Howitzermy dad has this 150 page long printed manual for MPlayer01:26
Howitzerreally amazes me how much functions a movie player can possibly have xD01:26
SansanaI'm really impressed with Krita, the interface is so much similar to photoshop:D01:27
senseiSee it as a 'movie suit' rather than a movie player :)01:27
Howitzerbtw, is adept kubuntu's synaptic?01:27
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|lostbyte|Howitzer, you have to install it seperatly.01:28
Howitzersynaptic?01:28
Howitzeror mencoder?01:28
Howitzeror adept?01:29
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san|bblcya :)01:31
Howitzerwooow adept isn't good :(01:32
Howitzerit confuses by forcing me to look at 3 things at the same time01:32
|lostbyte|Howitzer, sudo apt-get install mencoder01:33
Howitzerokay01:33
Howitzerty01:33
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|lostbyte|;)01:35
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steveireWhere can I get info on regex?01:40
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zorglu1google :)01:40
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steveirehmmn01:41
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steveireDo you know if it's possible to match aa, but not aaa01:41
zorglu1it is possible :)01:41
zorglu1aa[^a] 01:42
zorglu1or something along this line01:42
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steveireI've tried a few things. I'll just keep going at it.01:43
PupenoHello.01:43
DocTomoeI am in dire need for help with installing a finctional ndiswrapper in dapper. I installed ndiswrapper-*, and added the driver. I also did  a modprobe ndiswrapper - but I do not get an interface. Anyone in here ishing to give a helping hand?01:43
vakano01:44
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|lostbyte|DocTomoe, ndiswrapper -l01:44
|lostbyte|what does it say ?01:44
PupenoIt seems my ISP's DNS servers are crap, I've been having problems for days. I can download at >100MB/s once I get to connect, but I get many "Unknown host" errors. I was thinking about running a caching DNS in my own workstation. Would that help me ? if so, which dns server do you recommend (that is lightweight and easy to configure) ?01:44
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DocTomoe|lostbyte|: bcmwl5a         driver present, hardware present01:45
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|lostbyte|iwconfig01:45
|lostbyte|?01:45
|lostbyte|DocTomoe, ^01:45
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DocTomoe|lostbyte|: oh, the wlan interface seems to be called eth1 for some reason O_O01:46
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|lostbyte|DocTomoe, then it works..01:46
Howitzerwtf01:47
Howitzerkonqueror isn't fully supported by GMail? Oo01:47
DocTomoe|lostbyte|: what package is that new KDE network manager in?01:47
Howitzeri get this HTML crippled page01:47
zorglu1Howitzer: modify the config of konqueror to claim it is a firefox01:47
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|lostbyte|huh .. kwifimanager01:48
DocTomoe|lostbyte|: i mean that other one which is new in dapper ...01:48
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DocTomoekwifimanager is pretty basic01:49
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|lostbyte|DocTomoe, wlassistant ?01:49
Howitzerwooohoo01:49
abattoir_DocTomoe: the kernel brings w/ it a bcm43xx driver, that's why you get eth101:49
Howitzeri can watch School Rumble01:50
abattoir_DocTomoe: but that doesnt work for me, i use ndiswrapper01:50
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abattoir_DocTomoe: i disable that driver and then use ndiswrapper01:50
abattoir_DocTomoe: its a quick and dirty hack, but it works01:50
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DocTomoeabattoir_: how do I disable that kernel driver?01:50
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SkrotFFSaseigo: You've acctually got internet in Trysil? =)01:51
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aseigoSkrotFFS: yep =)01:51
|lostbyte|DocTomoe, removing bcm43xx module01:51
aseigoSkrotFFS: it's the best country lodge i've stayed in yet01:52
abattoirDocTomoe: 'cd' to /lib/modules/<your kernel>/kernel/drivers/net/wireless01:52
|lostbyte|DocTomoe, put it in blacklist01:52
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SkrotFFSaseigo: Yeah. Looks sweet on the pictures. :)01:52
abattoirDocTomoe: as root move the bcm43xx folder to /root01:53
abattoirDocTomoe: after that do a 'sudo depmod -a'01:53
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abattoirDocTomoe: another thing i've had to do is add "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" and in the next line "auto wlan0" to /etc/network/interfaces01:55
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david_is there anybody that could help me out with installing gaim? when i run the .package file says it cannot find 'GtkSpell Spell Checking Library' and fails01:55
eldendownload d latest gaim at their website and use alien01:56
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david_okay, and is alien an application?01:56
abattoirDocTomoe: Restart your computer, if you setup ndiswrapper right, the module would have been loaded already01:56
eldenumm no01:57
eldenit converts rpms to deb01:57
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eldenthat's what i usually do when i install gaim01:57
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gatekeeperdavid_, why aren't you installing gaim from your pacakage manager?01:57
BKajwhaddya want gaim for ... got to windows if ya wanna chat on msn :)01:58
david_um... well i just downloaded the file that sounded right off the site. i'm kinda new to linux, so i'm learning :P01:58
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gatekeeperdavid_, and yes you need to install alien from your package manager before you can use it01:58
david_okay, how can i do that?01:59
eldentry sudo apt-get install alien01:59
abattoirdavid_: if you are running kubuntu, kopete must be installed already. It is also a multi-protocol messenger client...01:59
Sansanakopete <301:59
eldenhe likes gaim more than kopete01:59
gatekeeperdavid_, apt-get install gaim much easier01:59
abattoirdavid_: unless ofcourse, you want *only* gaim :)01:59
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david_well i've used gaim on windows before so that's my whole reasoning for wanting to use it here02:00
david_i'll try apt-get install gaim02:00
gatekeeperdavid_, it will be sudo apt-get install gaim02:01
BKajI was just funnin' ya david_02:01
david_oh okay. and i know bkaj lol02:02
deciousany one have issues mounting data dvd's greater than 4gig?02:02
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BKajI always think of gaim ppl the same as AOL users...the disneyland of the internet :)02:02
david_woohoo! it worked! thanks a lot guys, you rock :)02:02
gatekeeperBKaj, that sort of remark could be taken as hostile02:02
gatekeeperdavid_, :-)02:03
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BKajno hostile intent , just an opinion02:03
BKaj:)02:03
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gatekeeperBKaj, appreciate that just be carefull of the perception :-)02:04
BKajWHY?02:04
cpk1gaim is an irc client too02:04
cpk1among other things02:04
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BKajyeah iknow,Icouldn't get kopete topw ork for me , it was too arcane :)02:04
BKajto work02:05
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david_no hard feelings were taken here. good night guys, and thanks again for your help02:05
BKajso I stuck with the old tried and trues like Konversation and xchat02:05
gatekeeperyour welcome  :-)02:05
zorglu1i irc thru gaim02:06
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Sansanakonversation here, and I'm starting to like this program02:07
BKajgaim or kopete?02:07
decioushttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1202068#post120206802:07
BKajyeah Sansana, i agree ...I like the interface and the easy  setup02:07
Lynoureirssi here :)02:08
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SansanaBut are here any colour themes? I mean something like black background and white letters? I dont want to change every colour manually02:08
LynoureBut I'm ancient02:09
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BKajno gaim just kopete in dapper and it just doesn't work for me on irc ...I'm not the dullest knife the drawer but I can't seem to get kopete to connect on irc. :)02:10
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BKajLynoure: ancient ? what's that mean...yer old nick , or are you just OLD like me ?02:11
C_REATiVE_re02:11
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Philip5BKaj: you can install gaim if you really want it02:12
SansanaBKaj you know, I have similar problem but... I like to use another program for irc, than the one I use for icq and jabber02:12
BKajjabber still around ? wow I haven't seen anyone mention it for yrs02:13
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Sansana:D02:13
Sansanajabber is fine02:14
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BKajwhat jabber client do you use ?02:14
Sansanaright now kopete02:14
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BKajis it easier to use for jabber than irc ?02:15
Gentixis it possible to convert my reiserfs3 partition to a reiserfs4 one?02:16
Gentixand is it already supported by the latest kernel??02:16
BKajare you running suse Gentix?02:16
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SansanaBKaj hm... jabber is similar to ICQ, it's hard to say whats easier or harder02:16
Gentixwould I be on this channel if I were?? ;)02:16
GentixBKaj: no I'm using kubuntu dapper drake ;)02:17
Philip6BKaj: and there is no problem using kopete with irc either... just did... :)02:17
BKajwe get all kinds here , ppl who want to learn about kubuntu but are using differnt distros02:17
GentixBKaj: k, but no I just use kubuntu02:18
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BKajPhilip6: hehe, i must be missing something then cuz I can't get kopete to connect in irc02:18
Howitzerjust use Konversation?02:18
BKajyup, I do :)02:19
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BKajit works fer me as the saying goes02:19
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Philip5BKaj: go into settings/configure add new protcoll - irc setup you nick and then go to connection...02:20
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humberthello all02:20
Philip5BKaj: select freenode, edit and make new: irc.freenode.net02:20
os2macOK just installed LTS on my Inspiron 8600 it detected my wlan card but when I go enable it I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or diretory....02:20
humberthow to list other channels ?02:20
Philip5BKaj: select that new server and press the "up key" so it's in top of the list02:21
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Philip5done02:21
humbertnew server that freenet ?02:21
coachJneed help big time02:21
LynoureBKaj: This is my 15th year on irc... I'm 30, agewise02:22
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coachJi tried to change the way user login, now the screen is to big for the monitor, as you move the mouse off the screen the image shifts02:22
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coachJto a oart of the image that was offf screen02:22
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vakai don't want konqueror to open the files with a simple click... how can i change that?02:23
Philip5vaka: go into system settings and select mouse and change to dubble click02:23
vakaty ;D02:24
Philip5np02:24
coachJphilip can you help me02:24
Philip5vaka: hade the same annoying feeling with it :)02:24
BKajLynoure: I'm old ...63 in a few weeks ...retired for 7 yrs been on IRC for all of them ...I got a pc when i retired and started to learn , then. I had used pc with application progs on the job but omly used the internet to email reports etc .02:24
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vakait's very annoying02:25
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os2maccan anyone help with the Wlan thing?02:25
Philip5coachJ: not sure i got the problem right02:25
vakabye and ty02:25
coachJthe desktop image is to big for the monitor02:25
Sansanaos2mac I can maybe help02:26
os2macOK just installed LTS on my Inspiron 8600 it detected my wlan card but when I go enable it I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: no such file or diretory....02:26
coachJso when you move the mouse the image moves02:26
os2macI can see and configure it in iwconfig02:26
os2macbut it won't enable in ifconfig and it won't do dhclient.02:26
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LynoureBKaj: I gave my mother a debian box when she retired... She hadn't really used computers before that so she was a perfect guinea pig for that. I update it for her, though. :)02:27
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Philip5coachJ: have you default settings of your desktop resulotion? or have you installed some drivers for ati or nvidia?02:27
Sansanahm... i didn't use if config when I was configuring my wireless network02:27
Philip5coachJ: sounds like virtual desktop or something02:27
coachJall was great unti; i tried to change the way user login02:27
os2macSansana I am asking the same question in #ubuntu as well.... just wanted to let you know.02:28
coachJeven the login screen icon is huge02:28
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BKajcool thing to do for your mom , Lynoure :)02:29
Sansanaos2mac, ok :)02:29
Sansanaos2mac and does network setting detect your card?02:30
os2macnetwork setting?02:30
Sansanasystem settings -> network settings02:30
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os2macyes... but shows it as disabled02:30
Sansanahm..02:31
themousehi all, I downloaded the sources of freetype, edited the config file to enable the bytecode interpreter, ./configure, make, make install, but there don't seem to have any change, why is that?02:31
Sansanaand what do you get when you activate it?02:31
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themousebetter rending of fonts02:31
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os2macit says enabling interface, highlights the disable interface button, disables the enable interface button and doesn't change the state of the nic.02:32
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DocTomoeI am still having problems getting ndiswrapper to work with my kubuntu dapper fresh-from-start-install. I managed to get the non-working bcm-kernel-drivers out of memory, however, ndiswrapper doesn't seem to work either. Any helpful ideas?02:33
gatekeeperthemouse, seem to be doing a lot of compiling from source?02:33
Sansanaos2mac hm... that's weird, I think I can't help you :( sorry02:33
chrisdarbyhey, just installed Kubuntu and i'm a bit of a linux n00b, can anyone help me install the correct drivers for my graphics card?02:33
zorglu1chrisdarby: lets try02:34
themouseI had only to change one line in config file and compile it02:34
themousehttp://avi.alkalay.net/linux/docs/font-howto/kde.png02:34
zorglu1chrisdarby: what is your gfx card ?02:34
gatekeeperchrisdarby, did it not autodetect correctly?02:34
chrisdarbyzorglu1: ATI Radeon 9700 Pro02:34
themousehere's how it will look after the change02:34
chrisdarbygatekeeper: No, the resolution is very low and the system settings pannel won't let me change it02:35
zorglu1chrisdarby: first stage, google 'xorg 9700 ati pro'02:35
chrisdarbyKubuntu has recognised it merely as "ati"02:35
zorglu1chrisdarby: first link is exactly what you want :)02:36
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chrisdarbyzorglu1: Thanks :) made my day :)02:36
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mateuszhi02:37
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Sansanahi mateusz02:39
gatekeeperzorglu1, ati doesn't seem to be very linux friendly02:39
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zorglu1gatekeeper: heard some rumours about this. i dunno02:40
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gatekeeperzorglu1, good percentage that come in here with troubles seem to use ati hmmm02:41
Sansanazorglu1 maybe this could help you http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/overview.html02:41
zorglu1Sansana: me ?02:41
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Lynouresome ati cards are, others not02:41
zorglu1Sansana: why me ?02:42
Sansanayes, there's option to install good ati drivers02:42
zorglu1Sansana: ah ok, i was the one answering this question, not asking it :)02:42
Sansanaaa02:42
Sansanalol02:42
Sansanasorry02:42
LynoureX600 has so far been all good and open source to me :) But I literally spend a month looking for the perfect laptop02:42
zorglu1no problem :)02:42
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coachJphi;ip U still there02:45
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coachJPhilip--fixed it the monitor settins were lost when I attempted to change the way users login.02:46
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jaroI need help configuring my LCD-Monitor02:48
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Philip5coachJ: aha, good02:48
Philip5coachJ: that you could fix it i mean... :)02:48
coachJyeah but sounds like a bug02:49
jaroI dont know what monitor I have got02:49
Philip5jaro: doesn't you have a name somewhere on it?02:50
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jarowell as far as I know.. I have got an Acer Aspire 1350 Laptop and and an 15'' LCD screen02:52
jaroI also have a Philips 107E Monitor next to it, and plugged in02:52
jarobut I can only run one of them at a time.. and I cant autodetect the LCD-Screen, because the screen goes black then02:53
jaroand the other monitor will only be detected when it is plugged in at reboot time02:53
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jaromaybe you can help me googleing it out02:55
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Philip5jaro: what happens if you use generic settings for your resolution?02:58
jarohm it works.. but I still get errors when switching for console ...02:58
jarothe screens turns black then02:58
jaroit switches off.. kinda02:58
jaroand it wont get back until another reboot02:59
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jaroand I dont know how to add this additional monitor02:59
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jaroi thought I would need to have the LCD configured02:59
jarowhen I try to autodetect the screen, it goes off02:59
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Philip5jaro: not sure of other drivers but i use nvidia and there i can setup and force different settings to different cards or displays03:00
jarohm I have a S3 Via Unichrome Graphic card :(03:00
jarowhich sucks03:00
jaroso I use via driver03:00
jarowhich finally has 3D Support03:00
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jarobut that nasty habit of turning that screen black, but that doesnt happen with the Philips Monitor03:01
humbertwhy bitorrent is not free anymore ?03:02
arso_hey guys03:02
arso_i installed azureus03:02
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humberton bitorrent.com i must login03:02
arso_since it tests nat and shit03:02
humbert?????03:02
arso_when testing tcp listening port03:02
arso_i get NAT error03:02
__osh__humbert: bittorrent is a protocol, its03:03
Philip5humbert: bittorrent as a protocol and it's still free... and you refer to a site03:03
__osh__humbert: still free. but bittorrent.com has some idea to sell vids. hence the login. if i'm not misstaken.03:03
arso_guys,my problem please03:03
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Philip5arso_: that's because you are behind a router or something03:04
__osh__arso_: what specifically is your problem then? nat error?03:04
arso_yes03:04
arso_i am behinda router03:04
arso_and i configured it03:04
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humbertsomebody french there ?03:05
arso_port by pass thing03:05
humbertusing free.fr?03:05
arso_with the port iam using on azureus03:05
Philip5arso_: then you need port forward or a trigger for the port03:05
humbertproblems with freebox v503:05
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arso_Philip5:  how do i do that03:05
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Philip5arso_: depends on which router you have... check it's docs03:06
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arso_siemens speedstream 652003:06
arso_err? check for wat03:06
Philip5check for port forward or port triggers03:06
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arso_k03:07
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arso_wats      a port trigger03:08
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17Hey Guys03:10
arso_hey03:10
LiNuX_LoVeR_17How would I use a XML feed for a podcast?03:10
m_tadeuhi there03:11
LiNuX_LoVeR_17like the ones at ubuntuos.com?03:11
m_tadeuwhich program do you recomend to control the forewall?03:11
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abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: you can feed the url to amarok03:11
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ok03:12
LiNuX_LoVeR_17thanks fo the help03:12
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: amarok->Left Playlists Tab->Add->Podcast03:12
r0xzarso: http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Bell/Speedstream6520/Azureus.htm03:13
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Did any of you use Shipit?03:14
LiNuX_LoVeR_17to get CDs?03:14
Howitzeryes03:14
Howitzeri wouldn't recommend them actually03:15
coachJwhy03:15
coachJhowitzer--why?03:15
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marcreichelthiho03:16
marcreicheltdoes anybody here have Kubuntu 5.10?03:16
BKajr0xz: i use a speedstream 6300 which is much the same03:16
marcreicheltoh03:17
marcreicheltbrb03:17
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: yes! I got 10 and didnt have even one after 2 days! :)03:17
LiNuX_LoVeR_17cool03:17
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: the idea of a live CD and an installer intrigues people from the 'windows world' ;)03:18
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: in a single CD, i mean.03:18
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Ya I know03:18
LiNuX_LoVeR_17lots of my friends loved it03:18
LiNuX_LoVeR_17They could try it then install it right there!!!!03:19
h3sp4wnThe live cd is not fast enough to use for anything useful for me (AMD 2600, 1gb ram) the xubuntu one is though03:20
arso_hey guys03:20
arso_i am running azureues n all03:20
Howitzerh3sp4wn: it isn't for anyone, the cd reading speed is the biggest bottleneck03:20
arso_but its not there03:20
arso_in k menu03:20
arso_i have to go to command and write azureues to open it  wtf03:20
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ok I got a problem with the podcasts03:21
BKajyeah abattoir, I was gonna install from live cd but my partitions were iffy so by the time Ihad them set up properly the dvd was DL'd and ready to burn so I installed rom that , NP03:21
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fekhi03:22
BKajfrom03:22
LiNuX_LoVeR_17When I click to play one it says "Access denied for the URL:" then gives the URL03:22
fekis it safe to do a dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper?03:22
LiNuX_LoVeR_17how can I fix it?03:22
feki had made just a backup for worst case ;)03:22
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: what is the url?03:22
h3sp4wnHowitzer: I don't understand why with a gb of ram it cannot just load the cd into a ramdisk03:22
LiNuX_LoVeR_17http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml03:22
senseifek: I've heard both success- and failure stories03:22
LiNuX_LoVeR_17not that03:22
LiNuX_LoVeR_17sorry03:23
feksensei: ok, so let's try03:23
LiNuX_LoVeR_17http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/media_mp3/ep7-070206-ubuntuos.mp303:23
LiNuX_LoVeR_17that is it03:23
senseifek: Yeah, with a backup at hand, there's not much to lose, is it :)03:23
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I am using amaroK03:23
senseiExcept time03:23
feksensei: yep03:23
arso_any azureus people here03:24
Philip5arso_: how did you install it?03:24
arso_i went to open torrent, filled all details but OK is still greyed out03:24
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marcreicheltdoes anybody here have Kubuntu 5.10 yet?03:24
feklet's rock03:24
feksensei: i report how it worked03:24
BKajyet ?03:24
arso_Philip5:  thru adept,its not appearing on K menu, accessed thro commands03:24
arso_Philip5:  anyways, i am openinga torrent, filled alldetails. but OK is greyed out03:25
marcreicheltbecause I need to now how to configure Konqueror to show the content of zip-, tar.gz- and tar-bz2 files instead of opening them with Ark03:25
BKajmarcreichelt: the latest is 6.0603:25
marcreicheltI know03:25
marcreicheltI have that one03:25
Philip5aha, i installed it manually so i setup my icons manually too03:25
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: I think the 'Add Playlist' option is for the .xml feed03:25
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I did03:25
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I added that it comes up with a list of episodes so I click one and I get that error03:26
deciousanyone know how to enable the feature when you double click on the title bar of a window it will make only the title bar visable?03:26
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marcreicheltBKaj: that's why I'm asking03:26
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arso_Philip5:  .........>?03:27
marcreicheltin 5.10 konqueror opened nearly all (apart from rar) files in its main window03:27
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: the latest one works for me,ep7.......03:27
marcreichelt6.06 opens them with Ark by default03:27
marcreicheltand I do not like that03:27
LiNuX_LoVeR_17It won't for me03:27
Philip5arso_: not sure what you refer to. the ok in the setup wizard?03:28
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: what is the exact error?03:28
BKajsorry marcreichelt, I haven't been able to figure out how to install from tar.gz files myself ...extract NP, but install has me beat03:28
arso_Philip5:  nono, already isntalled and running, when adding a new torrnt to download03:28
marcreicheltanyone here with Kubuntu 5.10?03:28
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LiNuX_LoVeR_17this is whatit says03:29
Hobbseemarcreichelt: some people, yeah, what's the issue?03:29
Philip5arso_: select your torrent by add files and then set the location where to save it and then hit ok03:29
m_tadeuwhy does my kicker losing all settings each time I log in?03:29
marcreicheltI just want to know how your configuration looks like:03:29
marcreicheltKonqueror -> Preferences -> file extensions -> application/x-zip03:30
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marcreichelt(I know that the english names are wrong, but I'm using the German KDE version)03:30
BKajwb david__03:30
abattoirmarcreichelt: i think in the 'Embedding' tab you should enable 'Show file in embedded viewer'03:31
arso_Philip5:  i do all that, but OK is greyed out03:31
abattoirmarcreichelt: or whatever you have in german ;)03:31
david__thanks bkaj. i have one quick question. i wanted to check what file system my hard drive is using. is there a terminal command for that?03:32
marcreicheltyes03:32
marcreicheltI did03:32
Philip5arso_: if so it's really strange as that is how you do it03:32
LiNuX_LoVeR_17this is what it says http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1700203:32
marcreicheltbut Konqueror does still show the "Open file with" dialog03:32
arso_ok i made it work03:32
arso_just restarted the prog and it worked03:32
arso_btw when its in tray the icon is white, no icon03:32
arso_and its not in kmenu, how do i make it go to kmenu > internet03:32
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Philip5arso_: right click on the "K" for the start menu and select menu editor03:34
Philip5arso_: and then add it manually03:34
LiNuX_LoVeR_17abattoir, do you think you can help me?03:34
arso_Philip5:  how do i find it03:34
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: what about the other episodes? same error?03:35
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Yup same thing03:35
marcreicheltabattoir: do you have 5.10?03:35
Philip5arso_: in a shell type: whereis azureus03:35
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abattoirmarcreichelt: no 6.06 , but zip:/ ioslave works for me03:36
marcreicheltyes03:36
marcreicheltfor me too03:36
david__when people say "sudo fdisk -l" is that a lower case L, a !, or a |?03:36
marcreicheltbut I want konqueror automatically to open ZIP-files with zip:/ as protocol03:36
senseidavid__: L03:37
david__okay, thank you03:37
senseinp03:37
abattoirLiNuX_LoVeR_17: For me amarok seems to play ogg files, not mp3s03:37
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I have tried the ogg files and I get the same error03:38
marcreicheltabattoir: do you have enabled the multiverse repository?03:38
senseiQuicke, anyone know if it's possible to set it up so that one can click URLs in konsole, and have them opened in konqueror?03:38
senseiIt's a kind of bad subject to google for actually03:38
marcreicheltand do you have installed libxine_extracodecs?03:38
BKajwhat is zip:/ ioslave, abattoir ?03:39
marcreicheltBKaj: do you have a zip file?03:40
BKajnot in dapper03:40
BKaji have a tar.gz03:40
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marcreicheltok03:40
LiNuX_LoVeR_17Are there any other programs I can use for podcasts, other then amaroK?03:40
marcreicheltmom03:40
marcreicheltthat's nearly the same03:40
senseiLiNuX_LoVeR_17: xmms03:41
|lostbyte|sensei, nope ! but there is another way..03:41
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senseiI think (assuming a 'podcast' is the same as a plain old webcast03:41
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imachine_hi03:41
BKajyeah , it's the linux equivalent of zip, but I can never find the install file :(03:41
imachine_i got some questions... why does my wifi card come up as wlan0 and wifi0 ?03:42
imachine_two interfaces in one?03:42
abattoir_LiNuX_LoVeR_17: i still dont know how from the same feed you get mp3, and i, ogg...03:42
senseiWhere's the feed, abattoir_, LiNuX_LoVeR_17 ?03:42
imachine_plus there is some errors in dmesg about wifi003:42
LiNuX_LoVeR_17no there are 2 feeds one OGG and the other MP303:42
imachine_any suggestions?03:42
LiNuX_LoVeR_17both don't work and give me the same error03:42
LiNuX_LoVeR_17here is the ogg one03:43
LiNuX_LoVeR_17http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml03:43
marcreicheltBKaj: if you have /home/<username>/example.tar.gz, type in tar:/home/<username>/example.tar.gz in konqueror03:43
BKaji have yet to figure out how to handle tar.gz files so  I can get them to install and work for me :(03:43
abattoir_[Sun Jul 2 2006]  [18:52:36]  <LiNuX_LoVeR_17> http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml03:43
|lostbyte|LiNuX_LoVeR_17, could you paste the podcast link ?03:43
senseita03:43
abattoir_BKaj: you can extract them w/ ark...03:43
abattoir_BKaj: or 'tar -xzf <name_of_file>'03:44
LiNuX_LoVeR_17I did paste it03:44
Howitzerhow do i set firefox to open middleclicked urls in a tab in the background?03:44
abattoir_|lostbyte|:http://www.ubuntuos.com/podcast/feed.xml03:44
marcreicheltanyone here who knows how to configure Konqueror to open ZIP files with zip:/ kioslave?03:44
senseiLiNuX_LoVeR_17: You could just manually parse the xml file and use whatever of the streams in it03:44
marcreicheltand tar.gz and tar.bz2 ones with tar:/ ?03:44
imachine_anyone?03:45
|lostbyte|LiNuX_LoVeR_17, and mp3 one ?03:45
senseiLiNuX_LoVeR_17: Like directly open http://ubuntuos.com/podcast/media/ep3-052106-ubuntuos.ogg03:45
imachine_this is really annoying i want to set this box up and kubuntu is fucking around with me03:45
LiNuX_LoVeR_17ok03:45
imachine_what the hell is this with two interfaces on one piece of hardware03:45
imachine_is that normal even03:45
senseiimachine_: This channel has a language policy03:45
imachine_sensei, sorry about that03:46
imachine_sensei, i got carried away.03:46
senseiNp, I don't mind, and it's not my policy :)03:46
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imachine_dont mean to offend anyone with my blasphemy, im just sort of depressed about this box not working right out-of-the-box03:46
Riddellimachine_: is this wifi?03:46
imachine_Riddell, yes03:47
imachine_but i dont know man, i get wlan0 and wifi003:47
BKajabattoir, I know how to extract the files , but the installing is what has me confused03:47
Riddellimachine_: yeah, wifi drivers in linux are often like that, it's a real pain03:47
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imachine_in ifconfig -a plus there is wifi0 errors in dmesg03:47
abattoir_BKaj: which package is this?03:47
imachine_Riddell, bleh; it worked fine in 5.0503:47
senseiMost people are bothered with too few wlan interfaces :)03:47
imachine_Riddell, just came up as eth1 and it was alright ;)03:47
h3sp4wnBKaj: there is usually a file called README or INSTALL03:47
Riddellimachine_: yes, they also change lots randomly03:47
abattoir_BKaj: generally, you'd have to run './configure' and then 'make' and then 'sudo make install'03:47
imachine_well change, i am for, but change for the better.03:47
imachine_and a previously tested change.03:48
imachine_not some random hoop jumping.03:48
imachine_bleh :p03:48
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imachine_i like ubuntu and all but it seems this 6.06 release was a bit rushed.03:48
h3sp4wnimachine_: That is right its so you can handle virtual interfaces properly03:48
BKajI don't have one right now abattoir, Ive been avoiding them since I don't have any luck with those files03:48
marcreicheltimachine_: it's a LTS version ;)03:48
Riddellimachine_: not at all, we took an extra two months for it03:48
imachine_marcreichelt, what does that mean? ;)03:48
Riddellimachine_: however try each interface and one of them should work from user space properly03:49
abattoir_BKaj: what are you trying to install?03:49
imachine_h3sp4wn, aha.03:49
imachine_well.03:49
BKajnothing right now03:49
imachine_Riddell, so how would i config it?03:49
imachine_im not familiar with linux's ifconfig.03:49
imachine_there;s nothing in --help about ssids and wep keys.03:49
senseiwlassistant is a good tool03:50
imachine_sensei, it doesnt work ;)03:50
BKajI avoid tar.gz files if I come across them ...I try to find the bin file instead03:50
imachine_doesnt show any network ;)03:50
h3sp4wnimachine_: I would recommend wpa_supplicant for anything to do with wireless03:50
abattoir_BKaj: oh ok, but to compile applications manually from .tar.gz... you must have certain packages installed03:50
imachine_h3sp4wn, i dont do wpa; i do wep.03:50
abattoir_BKaj: the buildessential meta package would install them...03:50
arso_whenver i open wine from command, it shows "wine windows emulator" loading, then when its done, it disappear03:50
imachine_h3sp4wn, this is a 11b card on a 16bit pcmcia slot, i wouldnt get much transfers with wpa ;)03:50
BKajahhh abattoir, I thought it was something like that :)03:50
imachine_unless for tkip well, maybe some other day. i dont think the card supports wpa anyway ;p03:51
arso_doesnt wine have a user interface or anything03:51
h3sp4wnimachine_: Wep is a waste of time in terms of security but you can do wep with wpa_supplicant also (and its debugging abilities from wap_cli are good)03:51
abattoir_BKaj: after that, you should be able to install most applications simply w/ './configure' , 'make' and 'sudo make install'03:51
imachine_h3sp4wn, i am aware of that.03:51
arso_i downloaded the "binary emulator and library"03:52
BKajright abattoir, can I find the buildessential meta package in synaptic or adept ?03:52
imachine_wep + mac address 'security' on the ap + radius.03:52
imachine_is what im aiming for.03:52
imachine_but anyway! this is not the issue here ;)03:52
arso_hello, anyon please help me with wine03:52
abattoir_Bkaj: yes, its actually build-essential, its in adept03:53
|lostbyte|arso_, you dont have too03:53
|lostbyte|arso_, simple add this..03:53
|lostbyte|arso_, deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main03:53
|lostbyte|arso_, to your sources.list03:54
arso_resources list?03:54
|lostbyte|ArmedGeek, and sudo apt-get update03:54
|lostbyte|arso_, ^^03:54
imachine_this laptop is so crappy. what a waste of desk space.03:54
imachine_oh great. mouse is b0rked.03:55
imachine_blaaah. ;] 03:55
arso_|lostbyte|:  sorry could u explain a bit more :P03:55
imachine_could someone tell me then how would i go on about setting wep key and ssid and channel on a particular interface ?03:55
|lostbyte|arso_, sudo kate /etc/apt/wources.list03:55
|lostbyte|arso_, add this ========> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main03:56
|lostbyte|arso_, to the bottom of that file and save.03:56
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|lostbyte|arso_,  sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list03:56
gnomefreaksources.list03:56
sensei imachine_ Something like /sbin/iwconfig ath0 mode managed channel NN key open YOURKEY essid YOURAP03:56
arso_|lostbyte|:  k03:56
imachine_ahaaa iwconfig03:57
imachine_okey thanks :)03:57
|lostbyte|:P03:57
senseiimachine_: followed by /sbin/iwconfig ath0 ap youraccesspointsMACaddress03:57
imachine_i come from *bsd, we use ifconfig for wireless ifaces as well.03:57
imachine_thanks ;] 03:57
senseiAh ok :)03:57
arso_|lostbyte|:  should we add a blank line after it?03:58
|lostbyte|arso_, yes03:58
arso_so wat does that do t o wine?03:58
arso_the whole line we added03:58
marcreicheltdoes anybody have Kubuntu 5.10 and is able to open ZIP files in Konqueror simply by left click on the ZIP file?03:59
|lostbyte|arso_, i am simply adding it to your repos. so you dont have to download anything manauly..03:59
imachine_sensei, hgnnmm03:59
imachine_sensei, SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.03:59
arso_|lostbyte|:  i downloaded it thru adept, but it still doesnt open ..03:59
imachine_sensei, how do i pass the wep key03:59
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imachine_sensei, 0xXXXXXXX03:59
arso_|lostbyte|:  i donno wat to do now03:59
|lostbyte|arso_, downloaded what ?03:59
imachine_sensei, its not ascii04:00
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senseiIt does hex as well04:00
arso_|lostbyte|:  wine?04:00
imachine_sensei, yeah, so do i add 0xMYHEXKEY04:00
imachine_or just MYHEXKEY04:00
imachine_(before you ask why dont you try,i did, none work:P)04:00
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senseiMYHEXKEY04:00
|lostbyte|arso_, so you already have the repo.. darn.. i tought you didt..04:00
imachine_i get invalid arguments04:00
arso_|lostbyte|:  sorry, wats repo04:01
Emessstupid piece of crap dapper...wont play sound OR let me run automatix OR login as root04:01
arso_|lostbyte|:  and i am not sure if i downloaded the right one04:01
marcreichelt:-(04:01
Tommy2k4you dont login as root with ubuntu04:01
|lostbyte|arso_, repository, the sources.list thing.04:01
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EmessTommy: i know that but i needed to to run daper04:01
Emess*automatix04:01
imachine_sensei, any suggestions?04:01
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ninHersure....apt-get/sources list04:01
Emesswait i think i know how to do it anyway04:01
senseiimachine_: Not really, no :/04:01
imachine_sensei, i cant set the wep key04:01
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imachine_maybe i need to load some wep module04:01
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Emesshehehe so you CAN logon to root in ubuntu :D04:02
Emessdo a tui login then startx :P04:02
|lostbyte|arso_, type winecfg04:02
eric_hi all...I have a question about kate in Kubuntu...04:02
ninHeryes, it is possible to get root04:02
imachine_sensei, i loaded wlan_ewp04:02
imachine_wep that is, but no luck ;/04:02
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=== |lostbyte| waves back.. to eric_
eric_how can I stop kate from opening .deb and .bin files from konqueror...?04:02
arso_|lostbyte|:  ok   i am in04:03
senseiimachine_: I suck at wireless stuff, hardly ever use it myself :/04:03
imachine_yeah ok04:03
|lostbyte|eric_, configure _ konqueror > file association.04:03
ninHerwireless is fun and easy to set04:03
|lostbyte|eric_, under tools.04:03
|lostbyte|arso_, then it woeks..04:03
imachine_ninHer, how do i set mine under 604:03
arso_|lostbyte|:  so do u know how to use it?04:03
ninHerunder 6 ?04:04
|lostbyte|arso_, do you have a windows program ?04:04
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imachine_ninHer, 6.0604:04
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ninHerok04:04
imachine_ninHer, kubuntu04:04
imachine_ubuntu, whatever.04:04
arso_|lostbyte|:  gbs of them04:04
h3sp4wnninHer: I wonder if you can help me I need to setup WDS and WPA2 between 2 machines running madwifi-ng and hostapd (You know alot about wireless right ?)04:04
ninHerimachine_:  read iwconfig manual04:04
imachine_ninHer, it doesnt work man.04:04
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ninHerimachine_:  man iwconfig04:04
imachine_ninHer, i read it all.04:04
|lostbyte|arso_, try wine program.exe and cross your fingers.04:05
ninHerso, look up the modules04:05
Mason59Hi all...may I ask a question?04:05
ninHerthe chipset of eth004:05
HawkwindMason59: Just ask04:05
|lostbyte|Mason59, No you cant..04:05
Mason59Thanks04:05
Mason59DOH!!!04:05
|lostbyte|j/k04:05
Mason59:)04:05
arso_|lostbyte|:  btw when do i type commands in terminal and when in that "run command"04:05
imachine_ninHer, i have some wlan0 and wifi004:05
imachine_ninHer, no eth04:05
Mason59Is anyone having trouble with Konqueror hanging on opening?04:06
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ninHeropen a console a do iwconfig.......tell me what04:06
imachine_ninHer, eh.04:06
h3sp4wnwifi0 will be unspec'ed04:06
imachine_ninHer, lo and eth0 ofcourse have no wifi extensions,04:06
imachine_ninHer, then wlan0 and wifi0 have no ap and the key seems set.04:06
imachine_but it wont associate with my ap04:07
ninHerthen some kind of problem with the drivers is likely04:07
imachine_ninHer, well DUH04:07
senseiheh04:07
imachine_ninHer, that was very helpful man.04:07
imachine_thanks.04:07
Mason59Sometimes (not all the time), I open Konqueror and it hangs loading images...inconsistent...sometimes loads 19 or 25 images...sometimes more...sometimes less04:07
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arso_|lostbyte|:  wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe": Module not found, is that wat u get when a prog dont work04:07
ninHertry modprobe in a console04:07
imachine_ah no need to be pissed, well you tried mate, thanks anyway.04:07
|lostbyte|arso_, you tell me..04:08
senseiimachine_: What does iwconfig wlan0 essid nameofyourap  say?04:08
Mason59I disabled IPv6 in aliases04:08
arso_|lostbyte|:  ??04:08
imachine_sensei, nothing :)04:08
imachine_sensei, i set the essid04:08
|lostbyte|arso_, try another program..04:08
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|lostbyte|arso_, go to winehq.com04:08
arso_ok04:08
senseiimachine_: iwconfig wlan0 ap MACofAP ?04:08
Mason59So I close Konqueror, and kill the kio slaves for it and sometimes it will load when I restart it.  Very odd04:09
|lostbyte|arso_, there is a list of programs that work..04:09
imachine_hmm hang on.04:09
arso_|lostbyte|:  ONLY the stuff there works?04:09
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senseiOnly those are guaranteed to work04:09
|lostbyte|arso_, there are the stuff that people tried and were successfull. but its not complete in its self.04:10
Emessanother reason iam hating dapper: i cant get any sound going, and all my dvd and audio codecs are gone :(04:10
Emessand automatix doesnt work so i cant get them back04:10
Emessbrb04:10
arso_i see04:10
h3sp4wnEmess: Try easyubuntu04:10
h3sp4wn!easyubuntu04:10
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.04:10
imachine_sensei, if i do that, it still says AP: None in iwconfig04:10
senseiimachine_: Weird.. but you know what.. There's probably some error with your driver ;)04:11
Mason59Also have sound problems in some apps, most notably xgalaga04:11
h3sp4wnimachine_: What make of card is it you are using ? chipset ?04:11
imachine_orinoco_cs04:11
|lostbyte|imachine_, ndiswrapper -l ?04:11
|lostbyte|oh..04:12
ninHereverything smelling windows.....crap04:12
imachine_|lostbyte|, how can i install ndiswrapper, if i have no network? :)04:12
h3sp4wnimachine_: do lsmod if it says anything about hostap then I know what needs to be done04:12
imachine_h3sp4wn, it does, tell me then!04:12
|lostbyte|imachine_, no ! i thought you were using it.04:12
|lostbyte|imachine_, does the light on you wifi come on ?04:12
imachine_hostap_cs, hostap.04:12
Mason59Anyone else with Konqueror problems?04:12
imachine_|lostbyte|, it doesnt have a light.04:12
|lostbyte|k04:12
|lostbyte|imachine_, you see it in iwconfig right ?04:13
imachine_yes04:13
imachine_h3sp4wn, tell me please what should be done then, it does list hostap.04:13
|lostbyte|imachine_, do you have a ap in your local ?04:13
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imachine_|lostbyte|, dude, everything works in fbsd FINE, it just this ubuntu install that is b0rked somehow.04:13
imachine_|lostbyte|, i have clients on this ap right as we speak and they connect FINE.04:14
imachine_its not a setup/hardware issue; its a kubuntu issue.04:14
h3sp4wnimachine_: You need to open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist04:14
|lostbyte|imachine_, ok ! iwlist wlan0 scan ?04:14
imachine_or error between monitor and keyboard04:14
imachine_:)04:14
imachine_h3sp4wn, checking it out04:14
imachine_h3sp4wn, should i blacklist hostap ?04:14
h3sp4wnimachine_: and put 'blacklist hostap' 'blacklist hostap_cs' one per line04:15
arso_|lostbyte|:  wtf!04:15
arso_wine CS 1.6.exe04:15
arso_wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\CS.exe": Module not found04:15
imachine_h3sp4wn, anything else before i reboot ?04:15
astro_-Anyone know why apt-get install says "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166" serveral times every time I install something new?04:15
astro_-also I don't get most of the new apps into the K-menu, is this normal?04:16
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h3sp4wnimachine_: It should pick it up without problems04:16
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imachine_boot it is then.04:16
imachine_h3sp4wn, cheers, wish me luck04:16
Mason59Anyone with Konqueror problems04:16
imachine_:)04:16
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steveireCan Kate autoindent?04:17
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sotiredgood morning04:17
|lostbyte|arso_, this is funny, your wine acts like modprob.04:17
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|lostbyte|sotired, hi !04:17
|lostbyte|arso_, if you still have my line in sources.list, remove your current wine..04:18
chrisdarbyCan anyone help me get my webcam working? It's a Logitech QuickCam Chat.04:18
sotiredi had this porblem once before and i forget how to fix it. my system sound has reverted back to my onboard. what is the command that i have to type to set it back to my card?04:18
|lostbyte|and update youe list.04:18
sotiredchrisdarby: i have the same cam...mine just worked out of the box04:18
imachine_btw, i'd love a bigger console, any suggestions how i could obtain that ? :p04:18
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arso_|lostbyte|:  ok, but a single line downloads and instals it?04:19
chrisdarbysotired: I can't get mine to work with Kopete on msn chats04:19
imachine_i'll google for that later.04:19
sotiredusb?04:19
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imachine_in the meantime, h3sp4wn , now i get NO wifi device ;)04:19
|lostbyte|arso_, if you still have my line in sources.list, do sudo apt-get --purge remove wine.04:19
chrisdarbysotired: yes04:19
imachine_h3sp4wn, NONE at all :D04:19
sotiredchrisdarby, im really not sure, im somewhat of a linux newbie, but try using gaim, mine works with that fine04:20
imachine_h3sp4wn, i do have orinoco_cs in lsmod tho04:20
julian_me debi equivocar en la passw de root como hago ahora?04:20
imachine_;p04:20
chrisdarbysotired: when i run $lsusb it just hangs for ages...04:20
h3sp4wnimachine_: but do you get wlan0 ?04:20
imachine_h3sp4wn, nope04:20
ninHerjulian que password de root04:20
zorglu1julian_: in english it will do better :) or #kubuntu-es04:21
h3sp4wnimachine_: What appears in ifconfig -a ?04:21
zorglu1or -it i dunno :)04:21
imachine_h3sp4wn, eth0 and lo04:21
julian_en kubuntu04:21
chrisdarbysotired: thanks04:21
sotiredanyone know the command to change my sound back to the souncard?04:21
imachine_eth0 being my built in lan.04:21
arso_|lostbyte|:  ok , i removed it, how do we check if its there now?04:21
sotiredchrisdarby: did it work with gaim?04:21
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h3sp4wnimachine_: I don't believe you04:21
|lostbyte|arso_, ok ! now sudo apt-get update04:21
steveireCan anything autoindent for me?04:22
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imachine_h3sp4wn, :] 04:22
h3sp4wnimachine_: You should have at least sit0 there04:22
imachine_i dont.04:22
imachine_tho i agree i should.04:22
imachine_but wait04:22
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imachine_yeah heh. sit0 on my desktop kubuntu04:23
Nauxerisnt it better to use uptitude instead of apt-get?04:23
Nauxer*aptitude04:23
arso_|lostbyte|:  ok updating04:23
imachine_h3sp4wn, is it better to run linux with 'pnp os' in bios?04:23
imachine_h3sp4wn, seriously, i have no sit004:24
h3sp4wnimachine_: Don't think it makes much difference either way04:24
imachine_it's weird.04:24
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imachine_well. anyway. i disabled hostap.04:24
|lostbyte|h3sp4wn, whats sit0 for ?04:24
imachine_and it doesnt work at all.04:24
imachine_nothing.04:24
imachine_|lostbyte|, tunneling or so04:24
imachine_i think04:24
arso_|lostbyte|:  ok done, now wat?04:24
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|lostbyte|ok04:24
|lostbyte|arso_, now apt-cache show wine04:25
|lostbyte|and paste me the filename line.04:25
zorglu1sit0 is for ipv6 tunneling04:25
zorglu1last time i looked :)04:25
Emessok, how to get music going? my sound cards arent getting ANYTHING04:25
h3sp4wn|lostbyte|: Its a good way to check whether people have done (ifconfig -a) or just done ifconfig04:25
imachine_h3sp4wn, ... you dont believe what i di.04:26
imachine_okay man.04:26
imachine_if you dont to help me, dont, but dont call me a f... liar.04:26
arso_|lostbyte|: Filename: pool/main/w/wine/wine_0.9.16~winehq0~ubuntu~6.06-1_i386.deb04:26
|lostbyte|:) ok04:26
imachine_s/dont/dont\ want04:26
steveireKDevelop seems to be just a text editor04:26
|lostbyte|arso_, ok ! good..04:26
visik7hi04:26
arso_|lostbyte|:  can we add it to kmenu04:27
|lostbyte|arso_, now sudo apt-get install wine04:27
|lostbyte|it will take some time..04:27
h3sp4wnimachine_: Do you have orinoco and orinoco_cs loaded or just one ?04:27
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|lostbyte|arso_, any program you install using wine will be added to kmenu..04:27
imachine_h3sp4wn, i have hermes, orinoco_cs and orinoco04:27
arso_|lostbyte|:  how about wine ITSELF04:27
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imachine_maybe i should get rid of hermes04:28
imachine_;p04:28
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sysrplhello04:28
|lostbyte|arso_, wont be of any use to have a link there. as wine has no interface..04:28
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arso_|lostbyte|:  oh, ok. so i just  "wine prog.exe" ?04:28
imachine_hey dude04:28
|lostbyte|yup !04:28
imachine_h3sp4wn, hostap seems to be the PREFERRED way.04:28
arso_yay, sounds nice04:28
arso_hope it works for my imp stuff04:28
imachine_i'll blacklist orinoco and stick to hostap04:28
imachine_brb04:28
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arso_2mins 20secs remaining04:28
=== Emess should install wine
Emessand quake404:29
volkerhello. anybody kenn tell me which package contains Xlib.h?04:29
h3sp4wnimachine_: For running an accesspoint maybe04:29
imachine_i dont know.04:29
imachine_i will try it.04:29
Hobbseevolker: check packages.ubuntu.com for that04:30
Hobbseethere's a search by file or directory04:31
volkerHobbsee: ive found it. libX11-dev04:31
Hobbsee:)04:31
volkerHobbsee: but thanks04:31
sysrplhello04:31
volkerbye04:31
sysrpl<- new ubunut/kubuntu user04:31
sysrpli nstalled yesterday on ylaptop ... should i try to update the graphics drivers?04:32
sysrplor ust leve them as per the default install04:32
sysrpl?04:32
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arso_|lostbyte|:  its done04:34
arso_|lostbyte|:04:35
arso_ wine Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe04:35
arso_wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\Gunbound_GIS_WC_518.exe": Module not found04:35
arso_|lostbyte|:  tell me  theres something else we have to do04:35
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arso_|lostbyte|:  u there man04:36
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zorglu1q. ok i got a .deb, how to include it in the ubuntu mainstream ?04:36
Hawkwindzorglu1: You mean install it ?04:37
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zorglu1Hawkwind: nope i mean to put them in the ubuntu repository so everybody can access it easily04:37
Hawkwindzorglu1: You have to get upload rights to REVU04:37
zorglu1REVU = ?04:38
zorglu1is there a process description i could follow04:38
Hawkwindzorglu1: Then it goes through a process of being checked and all that good stuff, then will be put into Edgy04:38
Hawkwind!revu04:38
ubotuI know nothing about revu04:38
=== Hawkwind Smacks ubotu
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Meta-I need some help04:38
zorglu1http://people.debian.org/~acid/tremulous/  <- it is not even mine. just i like tremulous so would like to do the necessary steps04:38
zorglu1tremulous.net for the main site04:39
h3sp4wnzorglu1: Is it in debian sid ?04:39
zorglu1h3sp4wn: i dunno04:39
zorglu1https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU <- the url of revu, may be good to put it in ubotu04:40
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Meta-GUys04:41
Meta-I am on the kubuntu live disc04:41
Meta-I ned to mount my hd so i can get file from hit04:42
Meta-BUT04:42
Meta-There is no /dev/hda04:42
Meta-what do I do?04:42
Meta-How can I mount it?04:42
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arso_|lostbyte|: .........04:43
Mason59Anyone with Konqueror problems?04:43
HawkwindMason59: Such as ?04:43
Mason59Konqueror sometimes hangs on opening...usually gets between 65 & 95% complete and then just freezes04:44
Mason59Doesn't do it all the time and I can terminate it04:44
Mason59After terminating, I kill the kio_http slaves and it will sometimes start OK04:44
HawkwindMason59: Have you tried moving your current ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror directory to something like ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror-old and then restarting konqueror ?04:45
h3sp4wnzorglu1: Is it a free first person shooter with the quake 3 engine ?04:45
Mason59No...let me try that04:45
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zorglu1h3sp4wn: yep. http://tremulous.net for the main site. http://people.debian.org/~acid/tremulous/ being the debian package. im not acid04:46
arso_isnt there a free cedega equivalant ?besides wine04:47
Hawkwindarso_: No04:47
arso_:-(04:48
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arso_i am having problems with wine04:48
Mason59Did that Hawkwind...restarted Konqueror, loaded Yahoo, but hangs @ 40%04:48
arso_getting cant find module when "wine prog.exe"04:48
marcreicheltI now found out that under Kubuntu 5.10 there is a ark_part listed in the appropriate configuration dialog in konqueror04:49
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marcreicheltunder 6.06, it is NOT listed04:49
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marcreichelthow can I enable ark_part under Kubuntu 6.06?04:49
steveireis there any programming application that performs auto indentation?04:49
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Mason59OK, so I terminated Konqueror, killed the kio_http slaves and restarted Konquerer and Yahoo loads...very strange04:50
BazziRsteveire for which language?04:50
chrisdarbyhey, i've just mounted an NTFS partition but i can't play any mp3 files on it, i've tried copying them to my linux drive but this makes no difference04:50
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steveireI didn't think it would matter, but python, php javascript, c++04:51
marcreicheltchrisdarby: do you want to play them with AmaroK?04:51
zorglu1chrisdarby: google for 'restricted format ubuntu' you will find the proper page04:51
steveireI've got Kdevelop, but it seems entirely useless04:51
Hawkwind!restricted04:51
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:51
BazziRTry eclipse :) does python, java, html/js so far well04:51
HawkwindOr read that :P04:51
zorglu1another possibility :)04:51
chrisdarbyzorglu1: thanks once again04:51
Hawkwindchrisdarby: Read that stuff ubotu just mentioned04:51
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os2mac_Kubuntuhi all04:52
Hawkwindchrisdarby: Specifically the last URL there04:52
steveireI'll try eclipse so thanks.04:52
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os2mac_Kubuntutrying to use BCM43xx as a driver for my wlan card... I have followed the procedures in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper04:53
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os2mac_Kubuntuand when I attempt to ifconfig the card I get the following messages04:53
os2mac_KubuntuSIOCSIFFLAGS: Protocol error04:54
Hawkwindos2mac_Kubuntu: Have you read this one:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517404:54
arso_Hawkwind:  somethings wrong with my wine04:54
Hawkwindos2mac_Kubuntu: Several have used that one that used the one you posted and had better luck04:54
arso_Hawkwind:  whenever i run anwything i get "error running xxx -module not found"04:54
Hawkwindarso_: It's because it uses Windows junk :P04:54
Hawkwindarso_: So ask in #WineHQ04:55
arso_oh k04:55
Hawkwindarso_: I don't do Windows and even more so I don't do Wine or Cedega04:55
os2mac_Kubuntuok I will try it Hawkwind04:55
arso_well i need it for games04:55
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Hawkwindarso_: No, you *want* it for games.  You don't *need* it since there are many native linux games :)04:56
zorglu1like tremulous.net:)04:56
Philip5Hawkwind: had any nightmares about football tonight? :)04:59
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zorglu1vive la france!! :)04:59
Philip5zorglu1: lol04:59
chrisdarbyI've just tried opening a wav file in amaroK and this isn't working either?  Is it because i'm opening it from an NTFS drive?04:59
HawkwindPhilip5: Nope.  The day ended great as my Nascar driver won the race last night :)04:59
Philip5Hawkwind: then you atleast got something :)05:00
arso_Hawkwind:  but not the ones i want ;) like counter strike05:00
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Hawkwindarso_: So give up gaming.  Though truthfully, use the best tool for the job.  If it happens to be Windows, then don't be ashamed to use it if it works best05:00
Philip5arso_: then you should check out cedegas wine implementation05:00
Philip5arso_: www.transgaming.com05:01
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os2mac_KubuntuHawkwind I did get the driver installed but I am getting an AP invalid when I try to look at it in iwconfig05:03
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maitre-hokage5bonjour05:07
maitre-hokage5je vien d'installer kubuntu05:07
maitre-hokage5et j'ai quelque soucis05:08
SonicChao !fr05:08
SonicChao!fr05:08
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.05:08
maitre-hokage5o sorry05:08
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jb_hello05:08
byenhey guys05:09
SonicChaoHi jb_05:09
byen I need some help with Ubuntu recognizing my external USB hard drive. Can someone help me as it does not show up anywhere05:09
SonicChaoWhat seems to be the problem?05:09
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SonicChaobyen, this is Kubuntu chat, not Ubuntu chat05:09
jb_does anybody know something about wireless lan with dwl-660 (orinocco Chipset?)05:09
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byen* I meant on Kubuntu05:09
SonicChaobyen, okay05:09
byen:P05:09
SonicChao:D05:09
arso_Philip5:  i dont wanna pay for cedega05:09
arso_i am dual booting windows anyway05:10
byenthie thing was.. it mounted automatically on Breezy05:10
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byenbut on dapper it does not show up anywhere05:10
HowitzerWhy does the libsdl1.2debian-arts package give me choppy sound in Tremulous?05:10
jb_does anybody got wlan running with kubuntu 6.06 and orinocco chipset card?05:10
byenand since i have a 6gb hd on Kubu. i need the ext hd for my files05:10
marcreichelt!ark05:10
ubotuI know nothing about ark05:10
marcreichelt!ark_part05:11
ubotuI know nothing about ark_part05:11
byencan someone direct me here05:11
Howitzerthe libsdl1.2debian-nat package gives me no sound at all in Tremulous..05:11
SonicChaomarcreichelt, the bot knows nothing.05:11
Howitzer!restrictedformats05:11
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:11
Howitzeryes it does :D05:11
Howitzer!SDL05:11
ubotuI know nothing about SDL05:11
Howitzer!sdl05:11
ubotuI know nothing about sdl05:11
jb_!wlan05:11
ubotuI know nothing about wlan05:11
SonicChaolol05:11
SonicChaoLOL!05:11
Howitzerdamnit05:11
Howitzer!arts05:11
ubotuI know nothing about arts05:11
jb_!lol05:11
byen!external usb05:11
ubotuI know nothing about lol05:11
SonicChaoI know what I'm saying...05:11
ubotuI know nothing about external usb05:11
SonicChaoSTOP!05:11
SonicChaoNOW!05:11
Howitzer!usb05:11
ubotuI know nothing about usb05:11
byengah05:12
Howitzerwtf05:12
marcreichelt!bill05:12
ubotuI know nothing about bill05:12
byen!wtf05:12
ubotuI know nothing about wtf05:12
SonicChaoNo playing with the bot.05:12
byenlol05:12
SonicChaoI said no playing with the bot.05:12
SonicChaoAre you listening?05:12
SonicChaoThis is a support channel.05:12
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SonicChaoJoin #debian-bots to play with the bot05:12
jb_ok, is there somebody experienced with wlan in this support channel?05:12
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byenisnt there a way to see where the usb hdd is mounted?05:13
byenhow can i see where it is and how can i get it automounted05:13
jb_am i on ignore for everyone in her or does nobody use wlan in kubuntu?05:13
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marcreicheltjb_, what do you want to know05:13
marcreichelt?05:13
jb_hi marc, my dwl-660 (dlink) is not running although it has orinocco chipset, which is described as native supported by kubuntu05:14
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jaroh3sp4wn:  Hey there :-) Do You wann help me out with the X.org Conf Problem ?05:14
marcreicheltwhat means "is not running"?05:15
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jb_there are two leds, act and pwr, pwr is running, act not. iwconfig shows, that the card finds the accesspoint, the essid is correct, but no futher actions05:15
jb_any wether dhcp or manual05:16
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jb_removinc and replacing the card shows in dmesg, that everything is ok, except one fact: "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready"05:16
jb_sorry, was eth105:16
jb_not eth005:16
jb_i can not ping the accesspoint nor any other adress in the lan05:17
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marcreicheltcan you pinh 127.0.0.1?05:17
marcreicheltwahh05:17
marcreicheltping05:17
jb_wait, therefore i have to disable eth0 (that is lan and my actual connection to the web)05:18
marcreicheltno05:18
marcreicheltdon't do that05:18
marcreicheltis there any other pc you can use for IRC?05:19
jb_back05:19
jb_can you still read me?05:19
marcreicheltyes05:19
jb_ok, 127.0.0.1 works fine05:19
marcreicheltso lo is working05:19
marcreicheltwhat does your /etc/network/interfaces say?05:20
jb_i will switch to another computer, so we can experminet on this one05:20
marcreicheltk05:20
marcreichelthttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/05:20
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jb_just pasted it under your nick05:22
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gjmarcreichelt, it is me, jb_05:22
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gjwe can now "play" with my concerned computer while i stay tuned with this one05:22
marcreicheltk05:23
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marcreicheltgj, do you have such as many network devices? ;)05:24
gjnope, i have a laptop with builtin lan and a pcmcia-adapter05:24
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marcreicheltgj, do a sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop05:25
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gjk, 1 min05:25
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guptahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptMoveHowto - isn't there an easier method for this ?05:26
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gjdone, should i paste the output?05:26
guptaprobably with a function to update a rewritable cd ?05:26
gjha, i can not paste it, my network is down :)05:26
marcreicheltthen overwrite the /etc/init.d/interfaces with the content from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1701505:27
marcreicheltor just comment the lines out that I commented ;)05:27
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gjk,pls 1 min05:27
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marcreicheltHi jaro, you are from Darmstadt, too? :D05:28
gjok, networiking start?05:28
gjnetworking05:28
marcreicheltyes05:28
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marcreicheltthen I need the output of ifconfig and iwconfig05:29
gjstarted, pwr-led is on, ip is 192.168.0.51. but no ping possible05:29
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marcreicheltno ping to which IP address?05:30
jarolol05:30
gjifconfig shows the protocol ethern, the mac-adress, inet, bcat and mask all correct05:30
jarohow do you know ?05:30
jaroip ?05:30
gji can not ping any client in my lan05:30
marcreicheltno05:30
marcreichelt[17:27]  --> jaro hat den Kanal betreten (n=jaro@A310.ps.wh.tu-darmstadt.de). ;-)05:30
jarooh ^05:30
jarolol05:30
jaroare you studying ?05:30
gji can ping localhost05:30
marcreicheltclear05:30
marcreicheltdo you have a router?05:30
marcreicheltyou seem to have one05:31
gjiwconfig says, lo, eth0, irda0 and sit0 have no wireless extensions. eth1: essid FingerWeg05:31
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marcreicheltk05:31
jaro?05:31
marcreicheltifconfig?05:31
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gjifconfig says that eth1 and l0 are up, eth1 has its assigned ip-adress05:32
marcreicheltk05:32
gji can not paste it, bec. no lan on that laptop actually05:32
marcreicheltwhat is your router's address?05:32
gj192.168.0.5005:32
marcreicheltrouter ^^05:32
gjyou mean, the dsl-adress, so to say from outside?05:33
marcreicheltor gateway05:33
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gjmy gateway, internal, is 192.168.0.105:33
marcreicheltk05:33
marcreicheltping that one05:33
marcreicheltping 192.168.0.105:33
gjnothing05:33
gjunreachable05:33
marcreicheltk05:33
marcreicheltmoment, I'll open a chat between us two..05:34
gjthanks05:34
ubuntuanyone ever installed 6.06 on a Dell Dimension 1300c? I have just bought one, and I am going to put it on it.05:35
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gjok, wait, i register05:35
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kerbelCan someone please help me with .fonts.conf? I want to make an entry which configures all "Serif" fonts to use Antialiasing05:40
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kerbelOr do I have to ask this question somwhere else?05:41
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DocTomoeI need help with my broadcom BCM4318 wifi card on dapper05:46
HawkwindDocTomoe: Might try reading this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18517405:48
DocTomoeHawkwind: I tried to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5, but it didn't work, and i still have an eth1 device instead the wlan0 device I used to have05:49
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h3sp4wnDocTomoe: Did you use ndiswrapper previously05:52
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DocTomoeh3sp4wn: Yes.05:53
DocTomoeHawkwind: Point 4 gives me /lib/firmware/2.6.15-23-686/bcm43xx_microcode2.fw: No such file or directory05:53
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HawkwindDocTomoe: I've not dealt with wireless in Kubuntu so I am only giving you URL's that others have used successfully05:56
DocTomoeok, thanks05:58
h3sp4wnDocTomoe: Have you blacklisted ndiswrapper ?05:58
h3sp4wnDocTomoe: And run sudo /usr/share/bcm43xx-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh05:59
abattoir_DocTomoe: did you try what i said earlier in the day?05:59
tnt2every time I run a graphical application, multiple error messages appear on my shell, like these: X Error BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, locales not supported on X server... could you help me?05:59
DocTomoeabattoir_: didn't work -_-06:01
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DocTomoeh3sp4wn: I changed so much till now I don't know where I stand anymore -_-. I just blacklisted ndiswrapper to get that bcm43xx driver to work eventually06:02
h3sp4wnDocTomoe: Is there anyway you could connect via a wire to run the above script ?06:02
DocTomoeh3sp4wn: that's the reason I am able to write this :)06:03
h3sp4wnDocTomoe: 1.2.2.1. Extract it Yourself - Do that bit but run the provided script instead of using the windows firmware06:04
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Muki-DARight now I don't have permissions to 1. open a certain mounted folder and 2. load Amarok w/o Sudo.06:06
Muki-DAIs there a fix for this?06:06
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apollo2011I am installing ubuntu on my laptop and I used the partition tool in the graphical installation to remove a partition and resize my c: ntfs partition larger and leave room for Linux, but I think what happened was the partition was resized but the fs wasn't, because Windows still says C has the same space as before but the Disk Management and every Linux partition manager shows the drive as larger. How can I fix this?06:06
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sotiredanyone here a wine expert?06:08
sotirednot the drink :)06:08
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h3sp4wnsotired: #winehq06:08
sotiredthank you06:09
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tnt2every time I run an application, multiple error messages appear on my shell, like these: X Error BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166, locales not supported on X server... could you help me?06:09
sotiredi get the same...but everythign works06:10
tnt2my current configuration can't pass OpenGL Direct Rendering nor 3DAcceleration tests...06:11
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tnt2I have a NVIDIA Riva TNT 2 Model 6406:12
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Muki-DAhow do I mount something as root that anyone can read?06:13
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Muki-DAIt keeps saying "read only file system" whenever I try to change anything06:14
Muki-DAOh wait, now it works. ^_^06:14
Muki-DAAnd at the moment, the only issue is that amarok only runs under sudo.06:16
Redeim using kubuntu and my wifi keeps disconnecting. i have tried disabling and re-enabling the card in the control panel, i tried searching for the network again to reconnect, but i always end up forced to reboot. anyone know if theres an easier way to restart my wifi? (im using a dlink card that uses acx100 drivers)06:16
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h3sp4wnRede: sudo ifdown IFNAME && sudo ifup IFNAME (IFNAME is wlan0 or eth0 or eth1 or whatever)06:19
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arso_hey gyts06:21
arso_guys*06:21
arso_is there anything  likle "taskmanager:" here in linux06:21
arso_for showing current tasks06:21
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snikkerin a amd64 system, some 32-bit applications are dysplayed with very small font. why?06:22
Muki-DAWhy would amarok run only under sudo?06:24
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snikkerno ones can hhelp me?06:25
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monomaniacpathow do you install kubuntu efficiently and without changing the splash with ubuntu 6.06?06:28
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jarowhat do I have to do to Use an additional monitor ????06:29
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Kreugermonomaniacpat: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop06:32
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Iam8upcan anyone tell me how to switch desktops via keyboard shortcuts?06:37
arso_OI anybody06:37
arso_how do i see wat tasks are running like task manager06:37
Iam8uparso_ - control esc06:37
arso_THANK U06:38
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nixternalIam8up: "Kmenu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility > Keyboard Shortcuts"     you want the walk through desktops...assign the key combo you want06:40
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arso_umm guys06:40
arso_noob question but06:40
arso_how do i install a program from a .tar.gz06:40
nixternalarso06:40
Iam8upnixternal - tyvm06:40
nixternalarg06:40
nixternalnp Iam8up06:40
nixternalsorry arso_   type       tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz06:41
arso_nixternal:  yes?>06:41
nixternalthat will extract the tar file06:41
nixternalthen it is usually a matter of typing the following06:41
nixternal./configure06:41
nixternalmake06:41
h3sp4wnarso_: Read the instructions inside usually README or INSTALL sometimes in doc/README doc/INSTALL06:41
nixternalsudo make install06:41
Iam8upbefore you do that..06:41
Iam8upRead the instructions inside usually README or INSTALL sometimes in doc/README doc/INSTALL06:41
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Iam8upi was just going to mentin that =P06:41
nixternalwtf06:41
arso_i see thnx06:41
arso_lol06:41
arso_how about rars and zips06:42
Iam8upevery once and a while you'll find an IGNOREME - that's the same thing as README06:42
nixternalunzip zips06:42
nixternalunrar rars06:42
arso_oh btw in run command or konsole06:42
nixternalactually with rars i think you need to install an extra package06:42
nixternalkonsole06:42
Iam8upyou want to open up the console, and cd to the folder where the tarball is located06:43
nixternalfor rar..in konsole...type           sudo apt-get install rar06:43
arso_umm06:43
arso_tar: cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory06:43
arso_tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:43
arso_tar: Child returned status 206:43
arso_tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors06:43
Iam8upyou want to open up the console, and cd to the folder where the tarball is located06:43
arso_ya i did that06:43
nixternaltar -zxvf cedega-5.1.3-OES.tar.gz06:43
nixternalcopy and paste06:43
Iam8upNo such file or directory06:43
h3sp4wnarso_: If you have problems with cedega you would be better asking in #cedega06:43
nixternaldid you download that to your desktop btw?06:44
arso_no06:44
arso_hojme06:44
arso_home06:44
nixternalok06:44
arso_i wish they crack cedega06:44
nixternalwhy?06:44
arso_so u dont pay :P06:44
nixternalwe don't talk cracking and hacking and script kiddie stuff in here...06:44
arso_btw is this like the offical linux server?06:44
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nixternalthat is the price you pay for using non FOSS06:44
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nixternalhey groovis06:45
groovisyo.06:45
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groovisI'm having a problem with Konqueror and Kate06:45
Iam8uparso_ - there is not such thing as an official linux server...06:45
grooviskate keeps opening odd filetypes06:45
groovislike .deb06:45
groovisand .wsz (winamp skins)06:46
Iam8upwhat would you prefer they open with..?06:46
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groovisnothing. Save as would be nice.06:46
groovisthose extensions aren't in Konqueror's preferences either06:47
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groovisit's weird.06:47
nixternalgroovis: i know what you are talking about, and that is a reason konqi makes me mad06:47
groovisit's really aggrivating.06:47
nixternalnow i need to try to remember how to fix that issue06:47
jb_hello, anybody out there who can help me troubleshoot wireless lan?06:48
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grooviswhen I search Konq's file associations for '.deb', for instance, I see the Debian Package manager...06:48
stephan22222_hi06:48
h3sp4wnjb_: What wireless chipset ?06:48
groovisbut yet it opens with kate. Grrr.06:48
stephan22222_The following packages have unmet dependencies:06:48
stephan22222_  compiz-gnome: Depends: libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.12.3) but 1.12.2-0ubuntu3 is to be installed06:48
stephan22222_E: Broken packages06:48
jb_orinoco, it is a dwl-66006:48
groovisnixternal: you've had this problem as well?06:49
stephan22222_but in kubuntu is nowher 1.12.3, where to get it?06:49
nixternalyes groovis06:50
nixternalim trying to figure out how to fix it06:50
nixternali think it is with the file associations and embedded editors06:50
groovisnixternal: remove Kate ;)06:50
h3sp4wnjb_: Is orinoco_cs in lsmod ?06:51
groovisnixternal: yeah, but there's no gui way to do it...that I can see06:51
nixternalno way..i love kate and use kate for everything06:51
h3sp4wnjb_: Or is it loading hostap ?06:51
groovisnixternal: I love kate too, but we're thinking different Kates...06:51
jb_h3sp4wn: lsmod shows, that orinoco is loaded, orinoco_cs and pcmcia. but pcmcia is also linked to hostap_cs06:52
jb_hostap is also loaded06:52
jb_hostap_cs              64536  006:53
jb_hostap                119428  1 hostap_cs06:53
jb_ieee80211_crypt         6272  1 hostap06:53
jb_orinoco_cs             17928  106:53
jb_orinoco                43156  1 orinoco_cs06:53
jb_hermes                  7808  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco06:53
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nixternal!pastebin06:53
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:53
jb_okok06:53
jb_next time, promised06:54
h3sp4wnjb_: sudo rmmod hostap_cs && sudo rmmod hostap06:54
nixternali thought the 660 was prismII06:54
chahibiHello, can anyone please paste his/her /etc/fonts/fonts.conf ? I think mine is wrong06:54
nixternali know the 650 is either orinoco or prismII depending on the version06:54
h3sp4wnThere is different revisions I think06:54
nixternalya..same with the 65006:54
jb_done, the 660 is orinoco, mine at least06:55
nixternali had the prismII 660..it just works06:55
nixternalso does the orinoco and dapper06:55
jb_nixternal, nice for you, but in here, no way :(06:55
jb_after rmmod, what should i do then?06:55
h3sp4wnblacklist hostap and hostap_cs06:56
groovisnixternal: i removed Kate... clicked the link, and got 'Service '/usr/share/applications/kde/kate.desktop' is malformatted...06:57
jb_how do i blacklist them?06:57
groovisnixternal: looks like I'll start looking there...06:57
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nixternalya..i know it has something to do with the kate.desktop06:57
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nixternalbut i thought you could disable that in the embedded applications area...but i guess not from the looks of it06:58
Kreugermonomaniacpat: did you get it?06:58
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h3sp4wnjb_: Have you actually tried just setting up wpa_supplicant ?06:59
jb_the dwl-660 does not know anything about wpa, so i did not set it up06:59
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jb_how do i blacklist the hostap and hostap_cs07:00
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h3sp4wnjb_: I am not 100% certain you need to do that - can you just not see any accesspoints with iwlist wifi0 scan ?07:01
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h3sp4wnjb_: just replug the card and hotplug should sort it out . iwlist wlan0 scan sorry07:02
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nixternalgroovis: i believe i have found a bug with the "Left Click Action" in Embedding of .deb files. There is a click for "Ask whether to save to disk instead"...im playing with that and looking a the rc file to see if it updates07:03
nixternalkonqi is a tank...its a beast of an app07:03
groovisnixternal: uh-huh...07:03
groovisnixternal: http://www.skinbase.org/winamp.php07:03
groovistry that link too07:03
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groovisnixternal: click the download, and kate will open the .wzl(?) extension07:04
groovisnixternal: any skin...07:04
nixternalyup07:04
nixternalthat is garbage07:04
nixternalit is these little things that push me away from konqi too07:04
groovisnixternal: and to think I switched from slack for this ;)07:05
nixternali am using FF, which just happens to be one of the worst browsers in existance07:05
groovisnixternal: it works in FF...I don't have the problem there, but I prefer Konq.07:05
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nixternalslack support though is just starting to do that...slack..their updates are becoming few and far between07:05
groovisnixternal: what drove me away was trying to install Ekiga 2.0 beta (dpendency f'ing hell)07:06
stefan_whats wrong with firefox exactly?07:06
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nixternalheh..ok..i did the little click thing right..and then said "Apply", and now it is in an infinite "Updating system configuration" loop07:06
groovisnixternal: apt-get is niiiiice ;)07:06
nixternalgood stuff07:06
groovislol07:06
groovisnice work nixternal07:06
nixternalstefan_: firefox is slow for one07:06
nixternalthat is the biggen...2...the vulnerabilities are slower then their upgrades..almost microsoft style07:07
groovisafk07:07
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nixternalbut that is an offtopic discussion07:07
jb_h3sp4wn: that kicked me out of the lan, now i am back07:07
nixternalgroovis made me break my konqi07:07
jb_rmmod did not bring any changes07:07
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h3sp4wnjb_: run sudo wpa_cli07:08
jb_he says: Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying07:08
jb_but my card does not support wpa at all07:08
h3sp4wnjb: wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:09
h3sp4wnjb: wpa_supplicant is in software07:09
h3sp4wnjb: hostap supports wext07:09
jb_Failed to read read or parse configuration '/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf'.07:09
jb_i touch it first?07:10
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jb_touch /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:10
h3sp4wnjb: touch it and just add only this line to the file ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant07:10
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h3sp4wnjb: ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant07:11
tnt2share your knowledge07:11
tnt2:)07:11
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jb_done, the error "could not connect to wpa_supplicant" remains07:12
h3sp4wnjb: sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:12
yogiCan anyone help me finger out why the webcam doesn't work with kopete??07:12
h3sp4wnjb_: sudo wpa_cli07:12
nixternalyogi: #kopete07:12
jb_tons of messages, most "no such device"07:12
dr_willisive never had a webcam work yet for me under linux07:13
h3sp4wnjb_: ifconfig -a07:13
jb_!pastebin07:13
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:13
jb_pasted it with your nick07:13
yogidr_willis: The web cam works, otherwise, but just not w/kopete.07:14
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h3sp4wnjb_: What is the url ? (try starting it with sudo wpa_supplicant -Dhostap -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf07:14
yogidr_willis:When I issue the command 'send webcam' the system locks up tight in a few seconds.  Absolutely nothing in the logs, either, past letting me know the driver registered.07:15
nixternalyogi: best bet for a good answer is the kopete channel. i know there have been issues with it, and the guys there will rock it out for you07:15
jb_ifconfig -a is pasted with at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1702207:15
h3sp4wnjb_ is it a laptop ? with 2 network cards ?07:16
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h3sp4wnjb_: Is is eth0 and eth1 both wired connections ?07:17
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jb_eth0 is lan, eth1 is wlan. but when i off eth0 i am out of the lan, disconnected07:17
jb_i maintain eth0 just for being able to talk to you07:17
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jb_eth1 is pcmcia, eth0 is builtin07:17
yoginixternal:Thanks a bunch! :-)07:18
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dr_willisyogi,  had similer issues with all 3 of my webcams. :(07:18
h3sp4wnjb_: iwlist eth1 scan07:18
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jb_eth1      Failed to read scan data : No data available07:19
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groovisdoes anyone have Kopete and web cams working?07:19
groovisI just use ekiga07:19
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h3sp4wnjb_: Is hermes in lsmod ?07:22
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jb_yes: hermes                  7808  2 orinoco_cs,orinoco07:23
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h3sp4wnjb_: try adding hermes to the bottom of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist (I don't think you can use hermes and hostap at the same time)07:24
h3sp4wnjb_: blacklist hermes07:24
jb_but i rmmod hostap already?07:24
h3sp4wnjb_: It will have come back after you replugged in the card07:25
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jb_ok, one moment07:25
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jb_i will disconnect now and try to come back with wlan07:26
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h3sp4wnjb_: I think using hostap is a better driver but if you have both running at once then they will conflict07:27
groovisbrb07:27
trym|workis xeon i386 or ia64?07:27
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h3sp4wntrym|work: Its not ia6407:28
jb_back07:28
jb_no success07:28
trym|workh3sp4wn: i386 then ?07:28
h3sp4wntrym|work: How new is the xeon ?07:28
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jb_hermes is stil in lsmod07:29
jb_but i blacklisted it, do i have to reboot?07:29
h3sp4wnyes07:29
jb_ok07:30
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h3sp4wnMaybe there is a way of restarting modprobe.d but I don't know it07:30
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trym|workh3sp4wn: brand new07:31
h3sp4wntrym|work: You should be able to use the AMD64 branch07:32
trym|workshould I ?07:32
trym|workits a dell poweredge07:32
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h3sp4wnIt should have the 64bit extensions if its new07:33
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fekawesome07:33
fekseaLne: haben wir uns ber das dist-upgrade heute unterhalten?07:34
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slow-motionhallo07:39
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jb_hello h3sp4wn :-( hermes is blacklisted but loaded07:40
jb_rmmod hermes is not possible because it is in use by orinoco07:40
h3sp4wnrd_: blacklist orinoco and blacklist orinoco_cs07:40
jb_me?07:41
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h3sp4wnyEP07:42
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jb_ok, i reboot07:42
fekdapper rocks :)07:44
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jb_h3sp4wn: now he is refusing eth1 totally07:50
jb_no orinoco and hermes in lsmod, but eth1 is not startable07:50
h3sp4wneth1 no longer appears in ifconfig -a ?07:51
jb_yes07:51
jb_it is gone07:51
jb_hostap and hostap_cs are still in lsmod07:51
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h3sp4wnjb_: Just unblack list what was blacklisted before07:54
jb_you mean, remove the hermes and the two orinoco-entries?07:54
h3sp4wnYep I am just trying to work out what it could be07:55
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jb_ok, i will do it and reboot07:55
h3sp4wnjust try sudo modprobe hermes (it may save you having to reboot)07:56
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cesarhola07:57
cesareste chat es en espaol?07:57
SpAwNhello all....i am using mandriva linux atm...but an looking to install kubuntu....my partions are like this right now mandriva has: 10gigs for / 10gogs for /usr and about 208gigs for home. i want to keep everything on my /home partion(has all my music a