[12:09] <RawSewage> any XGL users here?
[12:10] <chahibi> Former XGL user
[12:10] <RawSewage> how was your video playback
[12:10] <RawSewage> mine is jerky
[12:10] <chahibi> It looks good. But was buggu on my old Radeon 7000
[12:11] <chahibi> I can't even play a video on Kaffeine
[12:11] <RawSewage> without XGL?
[12:11] <RawSewage> why not
[12:11] <chahibi> No with XGL
[12:11] <RawSewage> oh
[12:11] <chahibi> Playback works fine for me on Kaffeine
[12:11] <RawSewage> without XGL?
[12:12] <chahibi> without XGL
[12:12] <chahibi> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_XGL/Troubleshooting
[12:12] <RawSewage> gentoo?
[12:12] <chahibi> This is comprehensive enough in my opinion
[12:12] <RawSewage> ok t
[12:12] <RawSewage> ty
[12:12] <RawSewage> bookmarked
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, chahibi, to get glx up and running you just followed the ubuntu wiki, is that right ?
[12:13] <chahibi> There is no big difference between XGL in Kubuntu and in Gentoo, and it was fixed
[12:13] <RawSewage> it couldnt have been fixed
[12:13] <chahibi> |lostbyt|, I don't remember , I used the SUSE Novell how to
[12:13] <RawSewage> since I just installed it yesterday
[12:14] <RawSewage> note Im only talking about jerky video playback
[12:14] <chahibi> With XGL?
[12:14] <RawSewage> yeah
[12:14] <|lostbyte|> chahibi, ok !
[12:14] <RawSewage> i HATE YOUR NAME
[12:14] <RawSewage> oops
[12:15] <RawSewage> typing a | is a pain
[12:15] <RawSewage> but let me show you a good guide
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> chahibi, how much ram does xgl take ?
[12:15] <chahibi> I need to type AltGr + 6 to type | in a French AZERTY Keyboard :)
[12:16] <RawSewage> |lostbyte|, http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=20060602173658632
[12:16] <chahibi> |lostbyte|, I don't have exact numbers, but I didn't feel any slowness
[12:17] <sysbob> back
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, will read. .tx
[12:17] <|lostbyte|> chahibi, ok !
[12:18] <chahibi> |lostbyte|, it is MUCH faster than KDE + KWIN transparency (Composite)
[12:19] <|lostbyte|> chahibi, intresting..
[12:21] <sysbob> uhm, how can i fond the drver name being used for my eth1?
[12:21] <sysbob> fond  = find
[12:21] <chahibi> sysbob, lspci | grep Ethernet
[12:23] <ubuntu> chris
[12:23] <sysbob> ok, well ... i am trying to use "sudo wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w" but i am sure madwifi is not the name of my wireless device
[12:23] <sysbob> i tried that grep but it didnt give me a sort name
[12:23] <sysbob> short
[12:25] <sysbob> so how do i find the short driver name i am using or my wirless eth1?
[12:25] <zardoz> nasty, amarok in crash if i play a file from a smb share
[12:25] <chahibi> sysbob, don't know
[12:26] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, paste that line it gave you..
[12:27] <sysbob> i ddnt see it ...i had to reset
[12:27] <sysbob> when did you paste it?
[12:27] <sysbob> oh
[12:27] <sysbob> k
[12:27] <nekromaan> good evening, how do i have to include the plugin kmplayer into the konqueror?
[12:27] <sysbob> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
[12:28] <chahibi> sysbob, That is probably eth0 not eth1
[12:28] <chahibi> sysbob, I didn't know you were looking for WiFi
[12:28] <sysbob> i also have "Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless  LAN Controller (rev 02)"
[12:28] <sysbob> but it didnt turn up in that grep
[12:29] <sysbob> thanks for the help so far :)
[12:29] <chahibi> Try lspci | grep Wi
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, looks like its bcm43xx :P
[12:29] <sysbob> how cna you tell for sure what it is?
[12:29] <chahibi> BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, dapper has it already..
[12:29] <chahibi> |lostbyte| , I didn't notice :)
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> !bcm43xx
[12:30] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> lsmod | grep bcm ?
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, ^
[12:30] <sysbob> i have the wireless working fine
[12:30] <sysbob> but i am trying to setup WPA
[12:30] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: use wext
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, h3sp4wn is your man.. :P
[12:31] <sysbob> uhm
[12:32] <sysbob> i am following a guide but i need the name of the wireless driver i am using to test it ... and i dont know how to determine the wireless driver name
[12:32] <zardoz> anyone use amarok to play files from a smb share?
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: wpa_supplicant ?
[12:32] <sysbob> yes, i am following a guide for that
[12:32] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, driver name is a module which is bcm43xx
[12:32] <chahibi> zardoz, I use Kaffeine + NFS, it works
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: wext is what it used (generic linux wireless extensions)
[12:33] <sysbob> okay, thanks ... so how wuld i hae determined that the name was "bcm43xx" by the way?
[12:33] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: pastebin /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:33] <|lostbyte|> zardoz, should work, can you play normal files.. ?
[12:33] <zardoz> chahibi: I am finding that xine will crash. is that your experance?
[12:34] <chahibi> zardoz, Kaffeine works correctly with the Xine engine
[12:34] <sysbob> sudo wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dbcm43xx -w   ....   Unsupported driver 'bcm43xx'.
[12:34] <sysbob> :(
[12:34] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: The best documentation is /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes
[12:34] <SpAwN> how can i stop x?....i tried sudo init 3 and it didnt drop me at cli
[12:34] <sysbob> i have that open in kate right now
[12:34] <sysbob> but an a linux noob
[12:35] <sysbob> am
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: -Dwext you should be using
[12:35] <zardoz> |lostbyte|: nope any file that uses the xine engine will crash, local play is fine...
[12:35] <sysbob> k, let me try
[12:35] <chahibi> sysbob, keep trying. Linux is easy enough :)
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: But it is better / easier to configure it from /etc/network/interfaces
[12:36] <sysbob> !!!! i think it worked
[12:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about !!! i think it worked
[12:36] <abattoir> lol
[12:36] <sysbob> CTRL-EVENT-CONNECTED - Connection to 00:0c:41:3e:cd:68 completed
[12:36] <sysbob> thanks
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, what did yyou do ?
[12:37] <sysbob> i did sudo wpa_supplicant -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: You want to take the options from /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf and put them into /etc/network/interfaces
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> sysbob, ok
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> h3sp4wn, what driver is wext ?
[12:38] <sysbob> should i do that?
[12:38] <h3sp4wn> |lostbyte|: Anything that supports the generic wireless extensions
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> nice..
[12:40] <chahibi> zardoz, Kaffeine crashes when I try to stream a Video
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: Or you can just have iface wlan0 inet dhcp (then underneath it) wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: change the wlan0 to eth1
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: Then kill wpa_supplicant and do sudo ifup eth1
[12:41] <zardoz> chahibi: yeah thats what I am finding out... I have to copy local first to play
[12:41] <sysbob> uhhhh
[12:41] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: Then it will work after a reboot etc
[12:41] <sysbob> i'll be right back, i am gonna disable eth0
[12:42] <sysbob> to test eth1
[12:42] <zardoz> chahibi: same goes for mp3 files...
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> sysbob: Have you set it up from /etc/network/interfaces you don't want to manually have to run wpa_supplicant from a terminal every time
[12:43] <chahibi> zardoz, no it is not that. I can play from the other box, without copying locally. I can't STREAM which is different, and works without file sharing.
[12:43] <zardoz> might need to look at other engines to play audio see if that play nice...
[12:44] <h3sp4wn> chahibi: use mount -t smbfs instead of trying to browse via samba
[12:45] <chahibi> i use nfs
[12:45] <chahibi> with mount
[12:45] <SpAwN> does anyone know how i can stop xorg .....i used to use init3 and it would drop me at cli
[12:45] <zardoz> does nfs need to be set up on the other box (windows)
[12:45] <SpAwN> but its not when i use sudo init 3
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> SpAwN: /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[12:46] <flashpc> alright, now i am here with only my wpa enabled wireless connection
[12:46] <flashpc> many thanks!
[12:46] <SpAwN> h3sp4wn: thanks
[12:46] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: Will it come up auto after a reboot ?
[12:46] <flashpc> i ahven't done that yet
[12:47] <flashpc> thats next, should i edit /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: Yes
[12:48] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: Put /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin.ca (its faster) and I will tell you what to change (explain anything if you want)
[12:49] <flashpc> k
[12:50] <flashpc> http://pastebin.ca/77347
[12:51] <DaSkreech> poningru: Hi
[12:51] <flashpc> i want to have eth0 as the secondary inet interface if the wireless doesnt connect or is down
[12:52] <flashpc> with eth1 being the primary wireless using wpa_supplicant and the wext driver
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: http://pastebin.ca/77351 (change the file so it just looks like that)
[12:53] <poningru> DaSkreech: yo
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: If want to bring up the wired interface you would have to do sudo ifup eth0
[12:54] <RawSewage> whats the <Super> key?
[12:54] <chahibi> RawSewage, The Windows Jey
[12:54] <chahibi> Key
[12:54] <RawSewage> ty
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: also sudo apt-get remove network-manager (If it is installed)
[12:55] <RawSewage> I guess the water effect doesnt work
[12:55] <flashpc> the guide has "pre-up /sbin/wpa_supplicant -Bw -Dwext -ieth1 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" as a line
[12:56] <flashpc> and also a kill line "post-down killall -q wpa_supplicant"
[12:56] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: Thats out of date
[12:56] <flashpc> okay
[12:56] <flashpc> so i dont need a kill line?
[12:56] <DaSkreech> RawSewage:You have to toggle it
[12:56] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: No just the lines that I put in that paste
[12:56] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, I did Shift+F9 too
[12:57] <flashpc> alright, how about the driver name? it's not being specified anywhere with your example?
[12:57] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Ah you need a Card with Pixel Shaders possibly
[12:57] <RawSewage> oh
[12:57] <RawSewage> all the other effects work, afaik
[12:57] <flashpc> thats fine without the driver name h3sp4wn?
[12:57] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: So that was not specified in wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[12:57] <flashpc> no
[12:58] <flashpc> here is my wpa_supllicant.confg
[12:58] <RawSewage> DaSkreech, one other question:  how do I make the wobble time shorter
[12:59] <DaSkreech> RawSewage: Turn up Friction of course :)
[12:59] <RawSewage> ty
[12:59] <DaSkreech> Same way you do it in real life..... unless you just go on a diet :)
[12:59] <SpAwN> !nvidia
[12:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:00] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: http://pastebin.ca/77362
[01:00] <SpAwN> i built the drivers how i usaly do and it didnt work....:(
[01:00] <zblach> hi. i've some quicklaunch keys that k understands. how can I map
[01:00] <|lostbyte|> lolz "for your monitor" .. :P
[01:00] <zblach> 'em to stuff?
[01:00] <SpAwN> hehe
[01:01] <zblach> i.e. 'launch vlc with [key] '
[01:02] <DaSkreech> zblach: I just use Katapult :( I'm lazy
[01:02] <jewels9321> does anybody know how to run window's 95 games in wine? can it be done?
[01:03] <DaSkreech> jewels9321: I got Window 3.1 games to work?
[01:03] <flashpc> http://pastebin.ca/77366
[01:03] <flashpc> there
[01:04] <flashpc> oh
[01:04] <flashpc> okay
[01:04] <zblach> DaSkreech: i like katapult, but can I configure it?
[01:04] <jewels9321> DaSkreech: you did? so you could get 95 to work then? i hear wine is a lot newer than that, so it should work then?
[01:04] <rsgill> hi
[01:04] <DaSkreech> zblach: To do?
[01:04] <rsgill> how can i get amarok to access podcasts
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: That should be all you need then sudo killall wpa_supplicant && killall dhclient && ifup eth1
[01:04] <zardoz> mplayer
[01:04] <zblach> DaSkreech: to not do web bookmarks
[01:05] <groovis> zardoz: best answer ever.
[01:05] <jewels9321> DaSkreech: I am new to linux, and i think this will be my first project. ;)
[01:05] <DaSkreech> zblach: Alt+Space, Ctrl+C
[01:05] <zardoz> groovis: hehe oops yeah
[01:05] <DaSkreech> jewels9321: Yes it can do any windows back to 1.0 I think
[01:05] <zblach> DaSkreech: thanks
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Don't quote me :-) I know back to windows 3.0 but it should do 1.0 if you can find a 5 1/4 floppy :-)
[01:06] <DaSkreech> zblach: Got ti?
[01:06] <DaSkreech> it?
[01:06] <zblach> yup, thanks
[01:06] <jewels9321> DaSkreech: do you know of any good websites that i could get info on this? i have tons of windows 95 games that i want to run in wine
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> stupid xine keeps saying device busy or something when kaffeine goes to next file in playlist
[01:07] <DaSkreech> winehq.org?
[01:07] <jewels9321> DaSkreech: I am not sure of where to start...
[01:07] <Tommy2k4> not every time though
[01:07] <jewels9321> DaSKreech: thanks! I'll try that
[01:07] <ze4502us> anyone know how to use amarok to download and listen to podcasts?
[01:07] <DaSkreech> zblach: I love that the configuration is an easter egg :)
[01:08] <flashpc> okay so i added the line "sudo killall wpa_supplicant && killall dhclient && ifup eth1" to interfaces as the last line
[01:08] <zblach> DaSkreech: why is it hidden?
[01:08] <flashpc> let me reboot
[01:08] <flashpc> many thanks!
[01:08] <DaSkreech> zblach: Bad UI design
[01:09] <zblach> *shrugs* conveniant enough for me not to care about that detail
[01:10] <ze4502us> anyone know how to use amarok to download and listen to podcasts?
[01:11] <deemo> hey everyone, i have been following the following instructions to fix my boot loader: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows but when i try to set the root it tells me the Selected Disk does not exist
[01:12] <deemo> anyone know whats wrong? im doing root (hd0,0) and my / is mounted on hda1
[01:12] <ze4502us> anyone know how to use amarok to download and listen to podcasts?
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: You don't that is for if you want to test it without rebooting
[01:15] <SpAwN> im following the nvidia driver howto and am stuck here....http://pastebin.ca/77373
[01:15] <Ahmuck> hi, i have a computer at home with kubuntu.  i would like to get the updates for what i have installed.  is there a way to get adept to list the programs to a usb key so it can be checked and downloaded to carry back to my pc ?
[01:16] <RawSewage> you dont have internet at home?
[01:16] <flashpc> back
[01:16] <Ahmuck> RawSewage: nope
[01:17] <flashpc> h3sp4wn: thank you
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: You didn't put that sudo line into /etc/network/interfaces did you ?
[01:17] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: Sure
[01:17] <flashpc> h3sp4wn: yes i did
[01:17] <Ahmuck> can one carry adept on a usb key ?
[01:17] <flashpc> shouldi remove it... it was the kilall last line
[01:17] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: You don't need it (that was just for if you wanted to test it without having to do a reboot)
[01:17] <flashpc> should i leave it there?
[01:18] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: remove it
[01:18] <flashpc> okay
[01:18] <SpAwN> brb....i tried manualy editing the drvier
[01:18] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: how ?
[01:19] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: When you get the packages they are kept in /var/cache/apt/archive. Just copy them to the USB stick
[01:20] <flashpc> removed ... if i were to add the wext driver to the spw_supllicant.conf, what whould it look like?
[01:20] <flashpc> wpa_supllicant.conf
[01:21] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: so just mirror them to a directory /var/cache/apt/archive on the usb stick ?
[01:21] <Ahmuck> i was looking for a smaller footprint.  for example, tell adept to check against a list '
[01:22] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: Let me see if I understand your dillema You have a Kubuntu machine at home with no net and a nother machine elsewhere on the net?
[01:22] <Ahmuck> text or whatever on the usb stick and say , hey you need an update, mark the updates and then i could go get the updates from another compuer with internet
[01:22] <DaSkreech> You want the net enabled machine to get the packages so you can carry them home?
[01:22] <flashpc> thanks for the help with setting up wpa ... i wouldn't have been able to find the driver name wext if you hadn't told me
[01:22] <Ahmuck> then have adept move the packages from the usb drive to the disk and update
[01:22] <Ahmuck> DaSkreech: yes
[01:22] <DaSkreech> The other machine on the net what OS is it running?
[01:22] <Ahmuck> windows xp
[01:23] <Ahmuck> :-)
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Ah in that case ...
[01:23] <Ahmuck> lol, i knew you would like this problem
[01:23] <DaSkreech> *ponders*
[01:23] <DaSkreech> You may have to do a little scripting for this problem
[01:23] <Ahmuck> but in fact, it is possilbe to get it from another kubunut machine, however, the other machine is confiugured differently with different packages
[01:23] <DaSkreech> Understood
[01:24] <Ahmuck> thie idea is only to download to the usb drive the packages that machines needs
[01:24] <Ahmuck> is it possible to create a project for portable adept ?
[01:24] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: That's correct. I'm trying to figure out an easy way to do it
[01:25] <h3sp4wn> You could just netboot from the other machine with a seperate root fs
[01:25] <Ahmuck> i would think you would need adept on the stick, and a text file for each configuration of each machine.  the gui would have to have a checkbox and a way to verify each machine
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: You think wrong :)
[01:26] <DaSkreech> Though that would be spiffy :)
[01:26] <h3sp4wn> You would need a big usb stick to fit kubuntu even without x on it
[01:27] <h3sp4wn> Just a deboostrap of dapper takes up 300mb
[01:27] <DaSkreech> Ahmuck: Ok the packages are at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[01:29] <Ahmuck> ideally i would like to create an outernet
[01:29] <jake> Hello? I'm a bit of a Linux noob, I need a little help installing a program.
[01:30] <|lostbyte|> hi !
[01:30] <Ahmuck> a ap or wireless router with a web server and internal dns that other wireless networks could connect to that woudl not be connected to the internet per say, but locally, a local net for local community pages.
[01:31] <jake> A friend of mine told me I should use Kubuntu because it's easy to use, and also because the IRC is helpfull. So I was wondering if anyone could help?
[01:31] <Ahmuck> any, perpahs it is to lofty of a goal
[01:31] <Ahmuck> jake: he was right
[01:31] <|lostbyte|> whats the glx shortcut to switch desktop ?
[01:32] <Ahmuck> jake, the trick is asking the rigth question, providing the right information in your question, at the right time and bieng persistant
[01:32] <Ahmuck> jake: so, what is your question ?
[01:32] <alain_> hello
[01:32] <Ahmuck> hello alain
[01:33] <alain_> after doing a dist-upgrade my wlan does not work anymore
[01:33] <gnomefreak> what versions of  k-office and amarok  are in kubuntu 3.5.3
[01:33] <jake> Heh, well basically I've used a Knoppix Live Boot Disk, which had the KDE desktop. I downloaded Kubuntu because I heard it uses KDE too so I thought I'd be used to it, and it does seem very similar, but when I try to run "sh unixmake" in the main direction of the TinyFugue installation directory nothing happens.
[01:33] <alain_> kernel got updated from 2.6.15-23 to 25
[01:34] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: amarok and koffice are in seperate repos
[01:34] <gnomefreak> ty
[01:34] <alain_> it is a pci wlan card and it is still listed in kinfocenter under pci
[01:34] <jake> *directory
[01:34] <gnomefreak> thats what i thought just wanted to make sure
[01:35] <alain_> but not under network interfaces
[01:35] <alain_> anyone can help
[01:35] <Zaire> has anyone heard of a package called makeinfo ?
[01:36] <alain_> ?
[01:37] <Zaire> I need it for doing a make/configure on tor privoxy
[01:37] <alain_> anyone able tohelp me??
[01:38] <Ahmuck> alain_: what is your wireless card ?
[01:38] <imachine> DaSkreech, JAMAICA?
[01:39] <alain_> Texas instr acx 100 22Mbps Wireless interface
[01:39] <alain_> Global sun technology
[01:39] <DaSkreech> imachine: Shhhhhhhhh
[01:39] <alain_> as said under PCI it is correctly listed
[01:39] <imachine> DaSkreech, pass it
[01:39] <Zaire> so has anyone heard of a package called makeinfo?
[01:40] <imachine> DaSkreech, better yet, is that a broken host or so
[01:40] <JReinaldo> I'd like some help....I have 2 HD, both with many partitions. I tried  to install the Kubuntu Dapper into one of the partions of the first HD and I received the message "critical error during ped_disk_new!" by the "qtparted".  It recognized well the partitions of the 2nd HD. How could I solve this problem? Thanks in advance.
[01:40] <imachine> DaSkreech, you not jamaican?
[01:40] <alain_> and with the previous kernel there was/is no problem
[01:40] <imachine> JReinaldo, i had a problem like that
[01:40] <h3sp4wn> alain_: Do you have dapper-security restricted enabled ?
[01:41] <imachine> JReinaldo, it (the installer) couldnt figure out how to configure fstab and grub if i wanted to install onto my second hard disk.
[01:41] <imachine> without touching the first's MBR.
[01:41] <DaSkreech> imachine: Yeah I am
[01:41] <alain_> h3sp4wn at least not intentionally, how can y check?
[01:41] <imachine> didnt work quite well; ended up with broken ad0 and a ubuntu system hooked alter on the ad1 on ata as ad0,.
[01:41] <imachine> DaSkreech, peace! :D
[01:41] <DaSkreech> Yeah mon
[01:42] <imachine> DaSkreech, Jah bless.
[01:42] <JReinaldo> imachine, I stopped before! The installer didn't reconize the partitions of the first HD!
[01:42] <imachine> DaSkreech, are You rasta?
[01:42] <DaSkreech> Who Jah bless no man curse
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> alain_: grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper-security
[01:42] <imachine> DaSkreech, indeed so.
[01:42] <alain_> h3sp4wn do you mean package repositories?
[01:42] <Zaire> ummm isn't there a rule for staying on topic in a help channel -_-
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> alain_: Yes sounds as if you don't have the restricted modules for 15-25
[01:43] <DaSkreech> imachine: Wish I had a nickel for everytime I got asked that :)
[01:43] <alain_> grep -v '^#' /etc/apt/sources.list | grep dapper-security
[01:43] <alain_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[01:43] <alain_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main
[01:43] <alain_> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[01:43] <alain_> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe
[01:43] <imachine> DaSkreech, i'm from poland, i do some reiki healing, really got interested in Jah.
[01:43] <imachine> DaSkreech, wann simply find out how the jazz works down in every place right
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Of course :)
[01:44] <imachine> DaSkreech, so peace mon, a nickel is nothing tho, goes and comes it does.
[01:44] <imachine> DaSkreech, what counts is what is inside !
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> alain_: add restricted after main (to both lines)
[01:44] <DaSkreech> Yeah but one for everytiem I got asked that :)  Ohhh yeaaahhh
[01:44] <imachine> haha
[01:44] <imachine> ;] 
[01:44] <imachine> would be a lot of nickels
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> alain_: and multiverse after universe for both lines
[01:44] <imachine> good to throw about
[01:45] <imachine> DaSkreech, you local in jamaica or foreign
[01:45] <h3sp4wn> alain_: then sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[01:45] <DaSkreech> imachine: What?
[01:45] <jbrouhard> Anyone know how to make an ISO out of a existing CD?  Can k3B do that ?
[01:45] <imachine> DaSkreech, Local then it is so?
[01:45] <imachine> ;)
[01:45] <alain_> h3sp4wn from what kernel? the working one (23) or 25
[01:46] <imachine> DaSkreech, so are you rasta so or not man.
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> jbrouhard: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=whatever.iso
[01:46] <DaSkreech> imachine: Nope
[01:46] <imachine> DaSkreech, i'd really like to hear about rastafarai if you were.
[01:46] <imachine> DaSkreech, you know anything about it tho?
[01:46] <imachine> maybe more than I.
[01:46] <DaSkreech> imachine: What do you want to know?
[01:46] <imachine> DaSkreech, everything.
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> alain_: Doesn't matter but if you have no network connection from the working one
[01:46] <imachine> who is Jah for you
[01:46] <imachine> how you look at weed
[01:46] <imachine> whats the story behind
[01:46] <DaSkreech> Jehovah? God almighty
[01:46] <imachine> how you look at people in society
[01:46] <h3sp4wn> !enter
[01:46] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:47] <DaSkreech> behind Rasta?
[01:47] <imachine> yeah
[01:47] <imachine> who is Haile Selasie for you
[01:47] <imachine> like no
[01:47] <imachine> sorry
[01:47] <imachine> for Rasta.
[01:47] <imachine> you;re not rasta then heh ;] 
[01:47] <imachine> what's rasta mean anyway?
[01:47] <imachine> can we go priv with this i dont want to mess this channel up, its a buntu channel after all
[01:47] <imachine> ;p
[01:49] <DaSkreech> imachine: Pm or O-T?
[01:49] <imachine> yeah
[01:49] <imachine> pm
[01:50] <oneeyedelf1> I have a quick question, I plan on installing kubuntu for a friend and then giving him the computer, the thing is he will have adifferent monitor, is there anyway to have kubuntu reprobe the refresh settings
[01:51] <omeow> oneeyedelf1: I think so.
[01:51] <alain_> h3sp4wn seems that this was the problem - im now downloading the restricted modules and will try afterwards
[01:51] <DaSkreech> oneeyedelf1: You can
[01:51] <oneeyedelf1> how?
[01:52] <h3sp4wn> alain_: I think that will be it
[01:52] <omeow> oneeyedelf1: use UseEdidFreqs instead of frequencies.
[01:52] <omeow> It probes the monitor for it's supported frequencies.
[01:53] <DaSkreech> oneeyedelf1: Why don't you just do a OEM install?
[01:54] <oneeyedelf1> omeow: danke
[01:54] <omeow> (Do a google search for more details on how to use it though.)
[01:55] <oneeyedelf1> DaSkreech: I would like to customize it a little and playu with it first, that and I have no clue, im not a kubuntu user
[01:55] <DaSkreech> oneeyedelf1: ok thats' fine :)
[01:56] <DaSkreech> oneeyedelf1: Don't set an insane high Resolution and you should be good
[01:56] <oneeyedelf1> DaSkreech: they are getting kubuntu because well it seems to be all that, they want without confusing them
[01:57] <DaSkreech> oneeyedelf1: Put Kubuntu on the desktop and label it help :)
[01:57] <DaSkreech> It will log them in here automatically ;-)
[01:59] <oneeyedelf1> hehehe, I use gentoo, and kanotix so this kubuntu stuff is a little new, but in 8 mins when the cd finsihes downlaoding I think itll all go well
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> oneeyedelf1: kubuntu is almost identical to kanotix in most respects
[02:01] <DaSkreech> Isn't the new kanotix ubuntu based?
[02:01] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: based on debian sid
[02:01] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Cool
[02:02] <oneeyedelf1> h3sp4wn: kanotix has alot more programs in the list, and less picky on licences
[02:03] <h3sp4wn> oneeyedelf1: Once kanotix is installed you still use apt-get or aptitude in the same way as kubuntu
[02:03] <dr_willis> i never did get the kaontic installer to work right
[02:03] <dr_willis> kanotix :P
[02:04] <DaSkreech> tuxtux: Bye
[02:04] <tuxtux> bye DaSkreech
[02:04] <DaSkreech> Oh wait :-) I thought you were leaving
[02:05] <oneeyedelf1> oh anyone ever hooked up dialup on linux?
[02:05] <oneeyedelf1> *not dialup I meant dsl
[02:06] <omeow> Never (thankfully)
[02:06] <House_MD> oneeyedelf1 - i have, why
[02:07] <rOOb> hello anyone know how to get azureus to work...i installed it and it goes to launch...i see the little boot splash screen from azureus then it just hangs and never opens
[02:08] <House_MD> rOOb - install suns java, its in universe afaik
[02:08] <oneeyedelf1> House_MD: is it hard?
[02:09] <dr_willis> i sort of perfer ktorrent myself. :)
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> I prefer rtorrent
[02:09] <rOOb> House_MD: k ill give it a shot thanks
[02:09] <dr_willis> rtorrent had some issues on some trackers  i was using.
[02:09] <House_MD> oneeyedelf1 - no, just plug your dsl router in with an eth cable, linux box set to dhcp, "it just works" tm
[02:16] <edu> hi
[02:16] <dr_willis> Howdy
[02:18] <LeeJunFan> damn k3b is lame for making images. It's always annoyed me that you can specify the dir but it's going to make the filename k3b.iso or whatever.
[02:18] <DaSkreech> So I go to AIM.com in firefox and it says We Don't Support your Browser We support Firefox
[02:18] <DaSkreech> What D Blu-Rai Blazes of 'Ell?
[02:19] <dr_willis> lol
[02:20] <rOOb> is it normal for adept to hang when prepairing to install packages...its been saying its doing this for java for about 5 mins.....longest ive seen it hang for
[02:20] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  using the AIM express?
[02:21] <dr_willis> rOOb,  click on that arrow that shows the console - it may be asking a question  in there
[02:21] <rOOb> ahh bingo
[02:21] <rOOb> thanks
[02:21] <DaSkreech> Yeah I can't get <long pause of expletive deletion> kopete to connect to it
[02:22] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  heh
[02:22] <rOOb> hmm how do i anser the question...it wont let me hit enter
[02:22] <dr_willis> no idea. :) try tab/y/n
[02:23] <rOOb> doh!....still nothing
[02:24] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: is there a way to get it to work?
[02:25] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  no clue :) i dont use Im stuff any more..Im was using them befor they were cool.. now they are full of dweebs. :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> IRC is the way to go
[02:25] <DaSkreech> Yeah I have one dweeb I need to talk to on AIM though :-(
[02:26] <dr_willis> Skype :)
[02:26] <rOOb> is there anyway i can safly close adept.....its just waiting for me to asner the question but i cant...so it not doing anything
[02:26] <dr_willis> si aim is blocking GAIM again eh?
[02:26] <OOD> r00b: do the install with apt-get in the command line
[02:26] <thompa> i keep getting log out screen sometimes when i push arrow key
[02:27] <rOOb> OOD: what about the current open adept i have now?
[02:27] <thompa> actually down arrow key now logs out
[02:27] <DaSkreech> No Kopete just sucks
[02:27] <OOD> there isn't anything you can do
[02:27] <rOOb> so just close it?
[02:27] <OOD> yea
[02:28] <OOD> you trying to install vmware?
[02:28] <OOD> or java?
[02:28] <rOOb> java
[02:28] <OOD> yea just do apt-get in the terminal
[02:28] <thompa> all i changed was keys ctrl+arrow for volume
[02:28] <rOOb> im brand new to apt and kubutu
[02:28] <rOOb> its apt-get install package correct?
[02:28] <OOD> yea
[02:29] <rOOb> k thanks OOD
[02:29] <OOD> sudo apt-get install ***
[02:29] <thompa> down is log out, what should it be?
[02:29] <stefan_> I am having some problems with the live CD installer, can someone help?
[02:29] <rOOb> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[02:30] <arcturus> stefan_: you'll have better luck describing the problem and what you've tried to do
[02:30] <jewels9321_> DaSkreech: I just got added to the wine-users list.... thanks for your help
[02:30] <DaSkreech> jewels9321_: Sure :)
[02:30] <OOD> r00b: adept might still be running, do sudo killall adept
[02:31] <jewels9321_> what game did you get running just out of curiosity?
[02:31] <rOOb> ahh OOD
[02:31] <thompa> fek
[02:31] <DaSkreech> A Children's one made for Windows 3.1 that doesn't work anywhereElse
[02:31] <rOOb> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[02:32] <jewels9321_> i've also been wanting to get kings quest 4 working.... would i need freedos to do that?
[02:32] <OOD> run that command and it should work
[02:32] <thompa> if i try to set new accelarator to ctrl alt back it logs out of course
[02:32] <rOOb> ahh thanks a gain OOD
[02:32] <OOD> jewels9321: have you tried dosbox?
[02:32] <thompa> ahh its working now
[02:33] <Kr4t05> I'm still angry at CVSCedega...
[02:33] <thompa> you have to disable arrow key
[02:33] <jewels9321_> OOD: no i haven't.... i am new to linux and new to wine etc.....
[02:33] <OOD> r00b: np, is it working now?
[02:33] <adamant1988> why Kr4t05 ?
[02:33] <DaSkreech> jewels9321_: Probably
[02:33] <jewels9321_> i do know that kq4 can run in win 3.1 though
[02:33] <stefan_> The installer almost finishes, it partitions and installs the files. But when it gets to configureing packages it comes up with an error.
[02:33] <stefan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17057
[02:35] <jewels9321_> OOD: have you had better luck with dosbox that freedos?
[02:35] <arcturus> stefan_: most install errors are due to a corrupt download or burn
[02:35] <Kr4t05> adamant1988, I can't seem to get it to work?
[02:35] <stefan_> its a pressed cd
[02:35] <OOD> jewels9321: i haven't tried freedos yet, but dosbox has run every single dos game i've thrown at it
[02:35] <adamant1988> buy it then...
[02:35] <arcturus> pressed?
[02:35] <stefan_> i ordered it from shipit
[02:36] <jewels9321_> OOD: Really? is it pretty easy to do? what about running win 95 games on dosbox?
[02:36] <arcturus> it doesn't matter
[02:36] <Kr4t05> adamant1988, I already got it, but, I can't say I "bought" it...
[02:36] <adamant1988> k
[02:37] <Kr4t05> ...
[02:37] <OOD> jewels9321: you might be interested in these too, though i haven't tried them in wine: http://www.agdinteractive.com/ http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=kq3
[02:37] <Kr4t05> Great, now I look bad.
[02:37] <OOD> jewels9321: dosbox can only run dos games
[02:37] <jewels9321_> thanks OOD, i happen to be an adventure game player
[02:38] <rOOb> well i got the sun java installed but azureus still isnt working
[02:38] <rOOb> it just hangs
[02:38] <crimsun> does it hang, or does it segfault?
[02:38] <crimsun> did you configure the proper java alternative?
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> rOOb: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[02:38] <rOOb> hang...i see it open....the little splash screen....it loads the torrrents...but i never get the user interface
[02:38] <OOD> jewels9321_: yea :)
[02:38] <stefan_> is there anything I can do about that error? I got the cd from shipit, so it isn't a corrupted burn or anything
[02:39] <arcturus> the cd might not behave with your burner
[02:39] <jewels9321_> OOD: this is for kq3 what about kq4?
[02:39] <arcturus> sorry, no solutions I can think of
[02:40] <rOOb> i ran that accepted the defaults and then tried again...and its still doing the same thing
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> rOOb: You want to select the sun java
[02:41] <rOOb> ahhh i see now
[02:41] <rOOb> it worked =D thanks guys/gals
[02:43] <D4m4ge> hi
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Hi gnomefreak
[02:44] <omeow> Hm.
[02:44] <gnomefreak> hi
[02:45] <omeow> Isn't taskbar a spelling mistake? Shouldn't it be task bar?
[02:45] <RawSewage> yes
[02:45] <omeow> Mistake in KDE then. :)
[02:45] <RawSewage> no
[02:45] <RawSewage> it's a word now
[02:46] <omeow> Ok then.
[02:46] <RawSewage> not a real word
[02:46] <RawSewage> Windows uses it, I believe
[02:46] <Hawkwind> It's in the Websters dictionary actually, therefore it's a real word
[02:46] <RawSewage> it is?
[02:46] <RawSewage> I just checked there
[02:49] <House_MD> websters? isn't that that the one that spells colour as color and stuff, i wouldn't trust it, :)
[02:49] <Hawkwind> House_MD: Not hardly
[02:51] <DaSkreech>  Oxford :)
[02:51] <jewels9321_> OOD: i would use dosbox for kq3??
[02:51] <OOD> jewels9321: isn't kq3 a dos game?
[02:52] <OOD> or you can try that vga version i linked to in wine
[02:52] <jewels9321_> i believe so, i have run it on win 95 because they put it on cd rom once
[02:52] <jewels9321_> OOD: Wouldn
[02:52] <jewels9321_> whoops
[02:53] <stefan_> How does kubuntu fair with the XFS filesystem?
[02:53] <jewels9321_> OOD: wouldn't i need to run it in wine or can i just download and play?
[02:53] <OOD> jewels9321: that
[02:53] <bimberi> stefan_: still there? check in the files mentioned in the error for more details - /var/log/installer/syslog and /var/log/syslog
[02:53] <OOD> jewels9321: that
[02:53] <OOD> jewels9321: that's a windows program so you'd need to run it in wine
[02:54] <stefan_> bimberi: Ok, will do
[02:54] <jewels9321_> OOD: So wouldn't wine automatically launch when i try to download it?
[02:54] <jewels9321_> i do have wine installed
[02:54] <mathieu> oulala there is a lot kubuntu user! (it's the first time I open konversation)
[02:55] <OOD> no, you either have to double click the installer if it's on your desktop, or use the wine *** command
[02:55] <jewels9321_> welcome mathieu
[02:55] <jewels9321_> OOD: what is *** command?
[02:56] <mathieu> thanks, I see your helping someone to run a windows program in wine, good luck ;)
[02:56] <OOD> jewels9321: wine kq3.exe for example
[02:56] <OOD> the stars are wildcards :P
[02:56] <rOOb> is therea utiliy to just update the system....i guess i installed a old version of java and need a newer version
[02:57] <jewels9321_> mathieu: um hmm. I am the one getting the help actually. =) have u used wine too?
[02:57] <OOD> jewels9321: just checked the dosbox site and all kinq quest games up to #7 will work
[02:57] <mathieu> yes
[02:57] <mathieu> for a king quest game you need dosbox
[02:58] <jewels9321_> i remember doing that command before in a different game that i tried to run in wine, but unsuccesful
[02:58] <jewels9321_> what's the url OOD?
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> There is a way of running the old lucasarts games (day of the tentacle / sam and max etc) with a native interpretter
[02:58] <OOD> or just download those vga versions and try those in wine
[02:58] <mathieu> I don't think there was a king quest games running in windows
[02:58] <OOD> they go up to 12 at least
[02:58] <OOD> there are windows ones
[02:59] <mathieu> which king quest do you want to run?
[02:59] <lib8264q> hello channel ...
[02:59] <jewels9321_> Mathieu: i ran kq 3 in windows becuase they put in on cd rom and i've ran kq7 in windows too.
[02:59] <OOD> they're dos games though
[02:59] <jewels9321_> mathieu: i particularly want to run kq4
[03:00] <OOD> and wine can't run dos code
[03:00] <OOD> then you'll need to run it in dosbox
[03:00] <mathieu> see wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King's_Quest_IV:_The_Perils_of_Rosella, this one was a dos game
[03:00] <jewels9321_> it was my absolute favorite game as a child
[03:00] <cesar> ol
[03:00] <cesar> hello
[03:01] <cesar> i am brazilian boy...
[03:01] <jewels9321_> what
[03:01] <jewels9321_> whoops
[03:01] <mathieu> sorry for your soccer team...
[03:01] <jake> hola, hablo un poco espanol :)
[03:01] <cesar> sim
[03:01] <jewels9321_> OOD: What's the url for dosbox where are you finding the kq stuff
[03:01] <cesar> hablo
[03:02] <jake> bah I'm not even gonna try
[03:02] <jake> Hehe, took it at high school and passed but no idea how.
[03:02] <OOD> jewels9321:http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1
[03:02] <jewels9321_> OOD: Thanks!
[03:02] <mathieu> you can install dosbox with adept if you want
[03:02] <OOD> it
[03:02] <OOD> it's an older version though
[03:03] <cesar> ???
[03:03] <DaSkreech> Why can't I copy files from one partition to another?
[03:03] <cesar> older version?
[03:03] <OOD> i was talking to mathieu
[03:03] <cesar> i am linux so
[03:03] <jake> Can anyone help? I can't seem to make a makefile work, although it's the same makefile and the same method I've used many times before. I have been using Knoppix, but now I've installed Kubuntu it wo't seem to work.
[03:03] <DaSkreech> jake: redo the ./configure
[03:04] <cesar> ubuntu system
[03:04] <DaSkreech> jake: Did you install the b-e ?
[03:04] <cesar> 6.06
[03:04] <cesar> and you?
[03:04] <rOOb> is there a easy way to add a folder and all subfolder to my $PATH?
[03:04] <pussfeller> where is the dir or file that is starting up beagled upon logging in????
[03:04] <jake> DaSkreech: I'm not sure what either of those thingd are, I'm new to Linux.
[03:04] <jewels9321_> OOD: Which download do I pick? I see a gentoo download of dosbox
[03:05] <pussfeller> seeing as beagled wont access kio slaves, its pointless for me to use if
[03:05] <pussfeller> it
[03:05] <DaSkreech> jake: In that case you didn't :-)
[03:05] <DaSkreech> !b-e > jake
[03:05] <DaSkreech> Follow that
[03:05] <mathieu> roob:with the set command but I'm not sure how exacly
[03:05] <pussfeller> !b-e
[03:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[03:05] <OOD> jewels9321: there isn't a deb file which is what you'd need, you have to get the source and compile, but if you want i can compile and send you a deb file
[03:05] <jake> Thanks
[03:05] <pussfeller> b-e?
[03:05] <rOOb> hmm k thanks mathieu
[03:05] <gnomefreak> pussfeller: build-essential
[03:05] <jewels9321_> OOD: but of course i am using kubuntu, i am really new to linux as you see
[03:05] <pussfeller> ahhhh
[03:06] <rOOb> maby someone else might know
[03:06] <oneeyedelf1> I got an error installing kubuntu, couldnt access security updates
[03:06] <pussfeller> was the network up oneeyedelf1
[03:06] <oneeyedelf1> it shoulda been
[03:06] <mathieu> roob:the command set is used to change environnment variable in the shell but I don't know how to change it permanently
[03:06] <DaSkreech> jake: What are you compiling?
[03:06] <oneeyedelf1> I got a link light
[03:07] <jewels9321_> OOD: sure...... i would appreciate it A LOT!!!
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> OOD: I take it you are not using checkinstall to make the deb (pbuilder or some other safe method ?)
[03:07] <lib8264q> can someone tell me what im missing ...  install of kubuntu (have to do it this way) server install dont know why but anyother ways hanging  then try to do a minimal kde desktop with kde-core desktop loads perfectly with command sudo aptitude install kdm kde-core kdebase x-window-core-system kubuntu-default-settings but theres no task bar to launch anything or change system settings  ????????
[03:07] <pussfeller> link light?
[03:07] <OOD> im using checkinstall
[03:07] <oneeyedelf1> on my switch the computer is connected to
[03:07] <rOOb> i remeber editing a file in mandriva that changed it permantly
[03:07] <pussfeller> oh
[03:07] <rOOb> but cant remeber what one
[03:07] <crimsun> mathieu: set is valid for csh-based shells, yes. Use export in sh-based ones.
[03:08] <pussfeller> to be sure, try pinging something from the command line, or acessing a web page
[03:08] <mathieu> crimsun:thanks for your update!
[03:08] <OOD> why what's wrong with checkinstall
[03:08] <jake> DaSkreech: TinyFugue, it's a MU* Client
[03:08] <jewels9321_> OOD: how would you like to send it?
[03:08] <stefan_> how well does kubuntu support the XFS filesystem?
[03:08] <pussfeller> if its up, then the issue could be , yer out of space, or you arent typing the right password, or something else is using apt-get for some reason
[03:09] <DaSkreech> jake: You can install it without compiling it
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> OOD: It doesn't deal with dependancies properly
[03:09] <DaSkreech> jake: Do you have Universe enabled?
[03:09] <h3sp4wn> OOD: And can easily mess up stuff
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> OOD: It is fine for the system it is built on (most of the time) but not on anyone elses
[03:10] <jake> DaSkreech: I tried doing what I usually do and just installing it and nothing happened. And I'm not sure what Universe is so probably not.
[03:10] <OOD> h3sp4wn: worked perfectly so far for me (and someone else) but i'll use pbuilder then
[03:10] <lib8264q> anyone
[03:10] <lib8264q> ?
[03:11] <DaSkreech> !universe > jake
[03:11] <D4m4ge> bye all
[03:12] <jewels9321_> OOD: You could send it by email or perhaps to my bf computer, because we have a firewall set up
[03:12] <mathieu> someone know how to start a second x session?
[03:12] <OOD> jewels9321: i can upload it to rapidshare.de :)
[03:13] <ash211> Ctrl+Alt+F1, login, and hit startx
[03:13] <ash211> @mathieu: switch back to your normal session with Ctrl+Alt+F7
[03:13] <jewels9321_> OOD: is that a website that i can download it from or something
[03:14] <OOD> jewels9321: yea
[03:14] <mathieu> ash211: I have to select a other display (server is already active for display 0)
[03:14] <jewels9321_> OOD: How long approx would it take you to do it? when do you think you'll start?
[03:15] <ash211> matheiu: are you using Gnome or KDE?
[03:15] <OOD> itll be a few min
[03:15] <mathieu> ash211:kde
[03:15] <jewels9321_> OOD: Okay! =)
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> mathieu: kmenu -> switch user -> start new session
[03:16] <ash211> matheiu: you can do it in Gnome at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1206910
[03:16] <jake> It's asking me to uncomment a couple of lines in "/etc/apt/sources.list" how do I uncomment something?
[03:16] <ash211> take out the '#' in front of the line
[03:16] <jewels9321_> OOD: last time I checked there was something wrong with my video card, or it is a crappy one onboard or something
[03:16] <mathieu> h3sp4wn: this is not the same thing, I want to x session in the same time
[03:17] <jewels9321_> is that gonna make it a problem?
[03:17] <jake> ah ok, I had it open in the wrong program, I was wondering why I couldn't edit it
[03:17] <oneeyedelf1> I have a problem
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> mathieu: It starts another copy of x on the next vt
[03:17] <oneeyedelf1> kubuntu didnt recognize my audio card
[03:17] <ash211> matheiu: is this for XGL/Compiz ?
[03:18] <jake> it wont let me save the file, have I gotta be logged in on root?
[03:18] <ash211> for most system config files, yes
[03:18] <mathieu> h3sp4wn : sorry!! this exacly want i want
[03:19] <OOD> jewels9321: i think ill just zip it up instead of making it into a package
[03:19] <ash211> just edit from Alt+F2 like this: kdesu kedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:19] <mathieu> sorry for my poory english' i use to speak french
[03:19] <jewels9321_> OOD: okay...
[03:20] <RawSewage> oh yeah, I want to install Gnome too, just for fun
[03:20] <RawSewage> how do I do that again
[03:20] <RawSewage> !gnome
[03:20] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> install ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <RawSewage> ty
[03:20] <RawSewage> sudo?
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[03:20] <ash211> for graphical programs, use kdesu
[03:21] <jewels9321_> OOD: how long have u used linux? I've used linux since march of this year
[03:21] <ash211> it can prevent .ICE authority problems
[03:21] <RawSewage> are you talking to me
[03:21] <OOD> jewels9321: about 2 months
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> ash211: aptitude is not an X app
[03:21] <RawSewage> run aptitude with kdesu?
[03:21] <RawSewage> ok
[03:22] <jewels9321_> OOD: that's pretty funny. I've used it for less time and know nothing =)
[03:22] <jewels9321_> whoops more time
[03:22] <mathieu> someone know how to see the speed of a network card (10 megabit, 100, gigabit etc)?
[03:22] <OOD> :P
[03:22] <h3sp4wn> RawSewage: The advantage of using aptitude to do that is if you do sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop it will actually remove everything not just the metapackage
[03:22] <RawSewage> ok
[03:23] <mathieu> I don't see it in ifconfig
[03:23] <jewels9321_> OOD: impressive =)
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> mathieu: sudo ethtool eth0
[03:24] <jewels9321_> OOD: what kind of stuff have you gotten into? I went to penguicon this year, do you know what penguicon is?
[03:24] <OOD> no
[03:24] <mathieu> h3sp4wn : thanks! A sea of linux knowledge
[03:24] <jewels9321_> OOD: it is a big geek convention in Livonia, MI scifi stuff, linux stuff, i ran security this year because i didn't know anythign else =)
[03:25] <jewels9321_> OOD: but i am a big math geek not a computer geek
[03:25] <DaSkreech> !kde
[03:25] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[03:25] <jewels9321_> so i fit in pretty good there
[03:25] <DaSkreech> !xfce
[03:25] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with XFCE, for more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[03:25] <DaSkreech> !e
[03:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about !e
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Stupid bot
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> !e17
[03:26] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[03:26] <mathieu> jewels9321_ : we share a lot of similarity
[03:26] <Cornellius> stupid DaSkreech :P
[03:26] <OOD> jewels9321: this is it: http://rapidshare.de/files/24784229/dosbox.zip.html if you wanti can help you get it set (it's basically another command line :P)
[03:26] <jewels9321_> mathieu: really? are you into math too?
[03:26] <DaSkreech> !e16
[03:26] <ubotu> I know nothing about e16
[03:26] <DaSkreech> Smart bot :)
[03:26] <h3sp4wn> !info dosbox
[03:26] <ubotu> dosbox: A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.63-2.1 (dapper), package size 371 kB, installed size 1028 kB
[03:27] <rOOb> does anyone know how i can permantly add a folder to my $PATH
[03:27] <mathieu> jewels9321_ : no, only from the usual geek caracteristics
[03:27] <mathieu> jewels9321_ : but with computer, math is never far...
[03:27] <Cornellius> !freedos
[03:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about freedos
[03:28] <id_sonic> HI
[03:28] <deuce868> anyone know if you can get reminders working on a iCal imported from google calendar?
[03:28] <id_sonic> I want use a kde-app to post my wordpress weblogs
[03:28] <id_sonic> which app should I use?
[03:28] <jewels9321_> mathieu: yeah math is awesome, i wear pi earrings, math t-shirts all the time, do tutoring, and trying to learn LaTex
[03:29] <h3sp4wn> !away
[03:29] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[03:29] <id_sonic> anyone know?
[03:30] <mathieu> latex! , I'm sure microsoft word is good enough to write some complex formula ;) just kidding...
[03:30] <id_sonic> ...
[03:30] <id_sonic> who can help me?
[03:30] <OOD> jewels9321: ill post the link again if you missed it: http://rapidshare.de/files/24784229/dosbox.zip.html
[03:31] <jewels9321_> mathieu: i want to write my own mathematics text books.
[03:31] <h3sp4wn> id_sonic: repeating yourself is only likely to get you ignored if someone can help you they (probably) will
[03:31] <id_sonic> jewels9321_ : use latex
[03:31] <jewels9321_> OOD: thanks a lot! I appreciate it....haven't played the game in probably 10 years!
[03:33] <TheHighChild> id_sonic: Have you checked out the Firefox extensions for blogging? I don't believe KDE has any apps specifically for that.
[03:33] <jewels9321_> OOD: should i get the premium or the free one?
[03:33] <Healot> iirc, those wordpress bs is mostly for another platform...
[03:33] <OOD> jewels9321: click free
[03:33] <jake> ok, I need to access root, right. Except I can't, because I didn't set a password for root, and it isn't any of the defult root passwords I've ever encountered
[03:33] <Healot> sudo -i
[03:33] <CheezBurgerMan> !sudo
[03:33] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:34] <Healot> next enter YOUR password
[03:34] <jake> Ok, how do I edit a text file like that? I usually use Kate
[03:34] <id_sonic> TheHighChild thank, but I always use Opera but not firefox.
[03:34] <CheezBurgerMan> jake: kdesu kate <file>
[03:35] <CheezBurgerMan> id_sonic: Did you look at KBlogger? Sorry. I was disconnected
[03:35] <jake> thanks.
[03:35] <TheHighChild> id_sonic: Gotcha, FYI firefox has a lot of really awesome blogging extensions. Also, there is a (I think) fork of firefox called Flock (www.flock.com) that you may appreciate.
[03:36] <CheezBurgerMan> Yeah flock has a bloggering thing.
[03:36] <id_sonic> CheezBurgerMan thx, I'll try.
[03:36] <id_sonic> TheHighChild o.. thx a lot,
[03:36] <Healot> id_sonic: you weblog?
[03:36] <id_sonic> Healot yeah
[03:37] <Healot> kblogger isn't in the repos right
[03:37] <TheHighChild> id_sonic: Here;s a page specific to it http://www.flock.com/blogging-with-flock-8
[03:37] <Healot> !info blog
[03:37] <ubotu> Package blog does not exist in dapper
[03:37] <Healot> !find blog
[03:37] <ubotu> Found: liblog4j1.2-java, liblog4j1.2-java-doc, liblogkit-java, blogtk, fblogo (and 24 others)
[03:37] <Healot> !info blogtk
[03:37] <ubotu> blogtk: GTK Weblogging client. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.0-1.1ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 66 kB, installed size 532 kB
[03:37] <CheezBurgerMan> Healot: Yeah it does. 'kicker-kblogger'
[03:37] <Healot> !info kblogger
[03:37] <ubotu> Package kblogger does not exist in dapper
[03:37] <CheezBurgerMan> !info kicker-kblogger
[03:37] <Healot> !info kicker-blogger
[03:37] <ubotu> kicker-kblogger: KDE applet to post weblog entries. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.5-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 118 kB, installed size 460 kB
[03:38] <ubotu> Package kicker-blogger does not exist in dapper
[03:38] <CheezBurgerMan> Ow, only 0.5
[03:38] <h3sp4wn> !info uclibc-toolchain
[03:38] <ubotu> uclibc-toolchain: A compiler wrapper for uClibc. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.26-cvs20040816-5.1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 84 kB
[03:38] <Healot> that's old, CheeseBurgerMan?
[03:38] <CheezBurgerMan> The lasest is 0.6.2
[03:38] <Healot> Chez*
[03:38] <CheezBurgerMan> latest*
[03:43] <jewels9321_> OOD: am i using dosbox 0.65???
[03:44] <OOD> jewels9321: yes why?
[03:44] <jewels9321_> i downloaded it sucessfully.  just need to know what to do next.  i've gone to the dosbox site and now i am entering in info to download it off their site
[03:46] <OOD> jewels9321: you already have it downloaded
[03:46] <OOD> jewels9321: it's in the zip i sent
[03:46] <jewels9321_> OOD: i thought maybe i did... sorry... how do i retrieve the file now?
[03:46] <OOD> jewels9321: ... the link i posted...
[03:47] <jewels9321_> i clicked on it downloaded it and now it went somewhere but don't know where
[03:48] <xenoterracide> what's the name of the file?
[03:48] <OOD> jewels9321: should i post the link again?
[03:49] <jewels9321_> i have the link.... just don't know how to retrieve it after downloading it?
[03:49] <jewels9321_> sorry i am just really newbie to linux
[03:49] <OOD> you click on free, then wait some seconds, then you type in the 3 letters you see in that picture into the box and then you click download
[03:50] <xenoterracide> should pay attention to the directory you chose when you did save as jewels9321_
[03:50] <xenoterracide> did you check your desktop?
[03:51] <roadrunner> Howdy everyone. Im a new linux user switching from windows (Blech, hate windows...) but I really liked Windows Media Player. It seemed to be one of the only things they did right. Is there a full featured player for linux that will work just as well
[03:52] <roadrunner> I want to be able to have a large library of music neatly organized (Don't care how it does it), be able to download song information, and stuff like that... basically something to replace Windows Media Player
[03:52] <OOD> roadrunner: you can download the win32 codecs, then kaffeine will play anything
[03:52] <roadrunner> I have keffein... I just don't like it for some reason
[03:52] <OOD> o.0
[03:53] <roadrunner> lol... I like how WMP arranged all your music...
[03:53] <OOD> for that there's amarok :D
[03:53] <roadrunner> can you do it like that in Kaffein? Or would you have to make a playlist for every album?
[03:53] <word> how do you set folders to be seen as 'system icons'
[03:53] <roadrunner> Amarok? I can try downloading that again. When I got that last time, it locked up X
[03:53] <OOD> use amarok for music
[03:53] <OOD> kaffeine is for videos
[03:54] <roadrunner> alright... well, Ill try it again then
[03:54] <Healot> either
[03:54] <roadrunner> I
[03:54] <roadrunner> I'm assuming you can use Amarok to rip files from an audio CD too? Or will you have to use another program for that yet?
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> i use kaffeine for music :(
[03:54] <Tommy2k4> amarok wont play 20kbps wma files :|
[03:55] <OOD> o.0 is that some super low quiality music?
[03:55] <OOD> recode it
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> cba lol
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> not on this pc anyway
[03:55] <Tommy2k4> would take forever
[03:56] <jewels9321_> OOD: how do i extract a zip file? sorry iam an ameteur...
[03:56] <xenoterracide> amature
[03:56] <OOD> lol
[03:56] <Tommy2k4> right click on it and look under extract
[03:57] <kosh> roadrunner: to rip files from a cd you just put the cd in, click on the virtual cd thing that kubuntu brings up and drag the ogg or mp3 files off of it
[03:57] <OOD> or just double click and drag them out
[03:57] <jewels9321_> xenoterracide: you're wrong...
[03:57] <kosh> roadrunner: any files you drag off will be encoded
[03:57] <kosh> roadrunner: very very simple
[03:57] <word> how do you set folders to be seen as 'system icons'?
[03:57] <jewels9321_> OOD: xeno is 2 feet away from me.., he wants me to learn on my own
[03:57] <xenoterracide> your right its amatuer
[03:58] <OOD> heh
[03:58] <OOD> jewels9321: if you want i can also send a frontend for dosbox, might make it easier for you to set up
[03:59] <xenoterracide> if she learns from me she learns nothing
[03:59] <xenoterracide> plus I don't care about wine or dos emulation
[03:59] <roadrunner> kosh: How do you change what bit rate it rips them at? At what format?
[03:59] <xenoterracide> I use nothing but linux
[03:59] <adamant1988> Hi all.
[03:59] <xenoterracide> gentoo all the way :-)
[03:59] <xenoterracide> ;-)
[03:59] <OOD> xenoterracid: yes well for the other 99% of people... lol
[04:00] <xenoterracide> I know but when I show her she doesn't pay attention
[04:00] <xenoterracide> and then she asks me every damn time
[04:00] <OOD> lol
[04:00] <mayank> hey, did anyone have xp driver for dwl-g630 wireless card
[04:00] <roadrunner> finding the XP driver should be simple
[04:00] <roadrunner> finding a driver for linux would be the hard part >_<
[04:01] <mayank> i am trying ndiswrapper for DWL-G630 and i am not able to get it working on Kiubuntu
[04:01] <adamant1988> Ok, so I just installed kubuntu desktop from inside ubuntu. I'm having two major problems right now...
[04:01] <mayank> i know i am trying for past 2 days ;)
[04:02] <OOD> adamant1988: what are they?
[04:02] <adamant1988> 1) all of my applications such as firefox and xchat look HORRIBLE... they're very blocky and all that.
[04:02] <adamant1988> I've tried changing themes etc.
[04:02] <adamant1988> no luck...
[04:02] <OOD> in kde?
[04:02] <adamant1988> yeah.
[04:02] <adamant1988> they look fine under gnome.
[04:03] <OOD> hmm those are gnome programs so they use gnome, try going to system setting-> appearance -> gtk styles and fonts and try messing around there
[04:03] <adamant1988> ok I'll try that
[04:04] <adamant1988> the second thing... when I try to go into the display option under configuration... it complains about there being an extra module laying around or something
[04:04] <jewels9321_> OOD: I don't know what the heck i am doing
[04:05] <OOD> jewels9321: lol, you get dosbox running at least?
[04:05] <jewels9321_> OOD: NO
[04:05] <h3sp4wn> jewels9321_: Dosbox is in universe I don't know why you are trying to compile it
[04:06] <OOD> *sigh*
[04:06] <OOD> i already sent it to jewels
[04:06] <OOD> in binary form
[04:06] <adamant1988> ood changing the styles worked :) thanks
[04:06] <OOD> and the one in multiverse it outdated
[04:06] <OOD> adamant1988: no problem :), but i don't know about your second problem
[04:06] <xenoterracide> is universe outdated ood?
[04:06] <roadrunner> Man I love KDE. Does anyone else absolutely hate Gnome?
[04:07] <OOD> some apps are yes
[04:07] <xenoterracide> I know that
[04:07] <crimsun> if you absolutely hate something, you have way too much time.
[04:07] <xenoterracide> it's not gentoo
[04:07] <OOD> lol
[04:07] <xenoterracide> :-)
[04:07] <xenoterracide> of course some things are outdated there too
[04:07] <OOD> jewels9321: do you have the file i sent?
[04:07] <holotone> I've got a microsoft bluetooth mouse - Getting it to connect by typing "sudo hidd --connect 00:50:F2:E3:12:3F" at the command line works great, but after a few minutes of inactivity, it disconnects again, making it a royal pain to get to bash again and retype the password (ad naseum).... Anyone know how I can make this bluetooth connection persistent?
[04:07] <roadrunner> crimsun: what was that supposed to mean?
[04:07] <roadrunner> crimsun: I just dont like Gnome at all
[04:08] <xenoterracide> me thinks jewels9321 needs to make the binary and executable
[04:08] <xenoterracide> because I doubt it is
[04:08] <crimsun> roadrunner: then you have way too much free time on your hands.
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> holotone: Only thing that comes to mind is set it to run every few minutes in cron.
[04:08] <xenoterracide> it wouldn't be after she unzipped it I think... maybe
[04:08] <OOD> xenoterracide: me thinks i already sent a binary to jewels9321 ;)
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> holotone: Although there's gotta be a better way. ;)
[04:08] <adamant1988> roadrunner, shouldn't you be writing hate mail to the developers then? you'll get your message across alot quicker, that way you can talk about something with some meaning.
[04:08] <holotone> CheeseBurgerMan: problem with that is that I more often then not have to push the "connect" button on the mouse when it is trying to connect, which means manual intervention
[04:09] <roadrunner> adamant1988: what's your problem? Im not allowed to prefer a piece of software over another?
[04:09] <xenoterracide> would it have retained it's permissions ood? I'm not sure
[04:09] <holotone> CheeseBurgerMan: so that may not be the most elegant solution
[04:09] <roadrunner> adamant1988: did I say there was anything wrong with it? That it is buggy? I don't believe so. It's simply not my style and I don't like how it works.
[04:09] <crimsun> roadrunner: we prefer to leave distro wars to #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:09] <jewels9321_> OOD: yes, i've downloaded it and then did the right click with it and then tried to execute it and it said that it did
[04:09] <OOD> xenoterracide: aww crap, that better not be a problem
[04:10] <bioticpro>  Im trying to get xine/kaffeine to play real video and audio, so I can ditch mplayer and just have one main player, has anyone succeeded in that?
[04:10] <roadrunner> crimsun: I'm not trying to war with people. I really don't care why you guys what you do. I was just wondering what the majority of people preferred, Gnome or KDE
[04:10] <OOD> jewels9321: you right click the file, the go to extract, and then extract here
[04:10] <crimsun> roadrunner: and that's -offtopic, thanks.
[04:10] <CheeseBurgerMan> roadrunner: considering this is #kubuntu, probably KDE...
[04:10] <xenoterracide> it's not I ssh-d into her system it's got executable set
[04:11] <OOD> well then you just double click 'dosbox'
[04:11] <roadrunner> crimsun: and your a baby who gets offended way too easily. I don't believe asking someone which one they prefer is off topic
[04:12] <crimsun> roadrunner: I don't have the patience to warn you again.
[04:12] <roadrunner> a simple answer to my original question of "yes" or "no" would have sufficed, but you are the one who seems to want to make a big deal out of it
[04:12] <bioticpro> hmm, Im reading xine page, looks like Real Video 1.0 (h263 not supported)
[04:13] <xenoterracide> it opens a new konqueror window in when she executes it ood
[04:13] <catwalk> hola a todos... soy nuevo en el barrio... alguien que hable espaol??
[04:13] <xenoterracide> and I get this on remote cli
[04:13] <OOD> xenoterracide: ...damm, that's probably my fault...
[04:13] <crimsun> catwalk: #kubuntu-es
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> !es
[04:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:13] <xenoterracide> ./dosbox: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_sound-1.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:13] <satempler> Riddell: are you here
[04:13] <OOD> ah, she needs those dependencies
[04:13] <OOD> wait,,
[04:13] <catwalk> gracias :D
[04:13] <crimsun> satempler: he's likely asleep given his timezone.
[04:14] <satempler> oh hun
[04:14] <satempler> righ
[04:14] <satempler> t
[04:14] <satempler> ok
[04:14] <word> all of my .desktop icons are all messed up and it won't let me change them..ideas?
[04:14] <word> icon images*
[04:14] <satempler> well any other kubuntu dev here
[04:14] <crimsun> satempler: what do you need?
[04:14] <OOD> xenoterracide: yea that must be a permission problem, my fault
[04:15] <satempler> well I found a patch for the 3.5.3 adblock problem blocking entire sites like digg.com and linux.com
[04:15] <xenoterracide> permissions are set -rwxr-xr-x
[04:15] <satempler> thought I would give him the link
[04:15] <xenoterracide> which is typical
[04:15] <xenoterracide> ood
[04:15] <jewels9321_> OOD: do you have to do the whole thing over again?
[04:15] <crimsun> satempler: can you state in -devel, please? I'll look over it
[04:15] <satempler> ok
[04:16] <xenoterracide> ood is this a cli app or a gui app?
[04:16] <xenoterracide> because I may have problems running remote if it's a gui app
[04:16] <OOD> it's a cli in a way that it emulates the dos prompt
[04:17] <OOD> so that could be a problem as well
[04:17] <xenoterracide> that's what I thought
[04:17] <OOD> since it launches a window
[04:17] <xenoterracide> heh
[04:17] <OOD> so i'm not sure if i should resend the file or not
[04:17] <xenoterracide> well I'm thinking it may not be launching...
[04:17] <xenoterracide> if I can't run it via cli
[04:17] <Frederick> folks can be any difference between the memmory usage of eclipse in apt and the one from the website?
[04:18] <os2mac> anyone screw around with bcm43xx-fwcutter yet?
[04:18] <bioticpro>  hmm, can someone eles try playing video clips on http://service.real.com/test/ under Real Video 10?  I want to make sure Im not the only one that can't play it (try with both xine/kaffeine and mplayer)
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> OOD: dosbox is in universe anyway
[04:19] <OOD> h3sp4wp: yes but it's outdated
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> OOD: What version are you trying to give him
[04:19] <OOD> 0.65
[04:20] <TheHighChild> anyone here using flock?
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> OOD: What does he need that isn't in the older version ?
[04:21] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: My mplayer plays them
[04:21] <OOD> it's better overall, but i guess it wouldn't matter
[04:21] <adamant1988> does anyone know a program that can remember my passwords for websites.. maybe a plugin for firefox? the default login saver isn't working correctly...
[04:21] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: what about kaffeine/xine?
[04:21] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: I was playing them embedded in the browser, one moment and I will try
[04:21] <Dawei> i am having trouble installing kubuntu on top of ubuntu 6.06. downloaded iso image. boot from cd drive, get "Adding live CD user" for about 3 minutes, then (without CD drive being accessed) "Uncompressing Linux. OK, booting the kernal" which stays on screen at least 10 minutes until I shut down
[04:22] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: You MAY(not sure) need Mozilla PSM personal secutiry manager
[04:22] <jewels9321_> OOD: if you decide not to that's okay. I appreciate all you've done.... just have to get it in universe now?
[04:22] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dawei: Try booting it with the paramaters 'noapic nolapic'
[04:22] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, where can I find it?
[04:23] <CheeseBurgerMan> Dawei: Although if you want KDE, then you should just run 'sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:24] <OOD> jewels9321: no problem :), start adept
[04:24] <Dawei> CheeseBurgerMan: thank you! I'll print out what you said and will follow it. Thanks for the fast answers.
[04:24] <CheeseBurgerMan> You're welcome. :)
[04:25] <Healot> Dawei: you're trying to install kubuntu-desktop in a live CD session?
[04:26] <jewels9321_> OOD: okay.. just a sec
[04:27] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: You'll want to make sure what I said it correct, I cannot say so myself. A google search should turn up some info. You can get the mozilla psm through apt-get or adept (package name mozilla-psm)
[04:27] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: OK, What works? RealPlayer will not play the video of it's own format but it plays sound. mplayer plays it all, VLC plays nothing, Kaffeine plays nothing, xine plays it all (all = video + sound)
[04:29] <jewels9321_> OOD...OKay.... do i just type in dosbox in there now?
[04:29] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: Granted, i have tons and tons of codecs. You may not have all the codecs.
[04:29] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, it's not in adept =\
[04:29] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: interesting, I tried kaffeine, nothing, mplayer plugin ok with sound and video, don't have realplayer, xine doesn't work, says I am missing support
[04:30] <Dawei> Healot: yes, I am trying to install in a live CD session... not the way to do it?
[04:30] <OOD> jewels9321: you're gonna need the universe repository open first, click "Adept" in the menu, select manage repostories
[04:30] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs'
[04:30] <Healot> Dawei: if you want to use the kubuntu CD and add kubuntu-desktop on an existing ubuntu installation
[04:30] <OOD> then look for the 2 lines that say universe at the end, right click them and select enable. and then click apply at the bottom
[04:31] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: ok, I will try that, txh
[04:31] <bioticpro> thx
[04:31] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Ok, chances are you do not have your universe repository open
[04:31] <Healot> just boot the ubuntu OS, and then add the kubuntu CDROM to the repos... david
[04:31] <xenoterracide> me thinks she has it ood
[04:31] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: Keep me updated
[04:31] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, I have them enabled...
[04:31] <xenoterracide> but not freedos
[04:31] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Sorry, 'open' is the wrong word to use
[04:31] <xenoterracide> I set up the repositories though
[04:31] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: it's in the Universe repo
[04:31] <OOD> xenoterracide: ah now you tell me XD
[04:32] <xenoterracide> sorry was heckling the people in #ubuntu
[04:32] <OOD> jewels9321: alright then scrap that and just type in dosbox, then install it
[04:32] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: on the command line, type 'apt-cache search mozilla |grep psm'
[04:32] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: You can copy from here with ctrl + c and paste into the konsole with shift + insert
[04:32] <adamant1988> hold on I'm looking in synaptic
[04:32] <holotone> Does ANYONE know how to get a bluetooth mouse to work and STAY connected?
[04:33] <holotone> using "sudo hidd --connect 00:50:F2:E3:12:3F", I can get it to connect
[04:33] <holotone> but after a few minutes of inactivity, I have to reconnect it.
[04:33] <holotone> I just want it to stay connected.
[04:34] <holotone> Is there a trick in the Bluetooth settings via the control panel that I can do that will help me out?
[04:34] <ChefWill> holotone: use the -t attribute
[04:34] <ChefWill> i.e. -t 60
[04:34] <holotone> ChefWill: What does -t do?
[04:34] <ChefWill> that's in minutes
[04:34] <jewels9321_> OOD... you're a cool dude....=)
[04:34] <TheHighChild> holotone: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21723
[04:34] <ChefWill> sets the timeout
[04:35] <ChefWill> sudo hidd -t 60 --connect --------------------
[04:35] <lin0x> when i try to access my floppy drive i get: Method "Mount" with signature "ssas" on interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" doesn't exist
[04:36] <jewels9321_> OOD: I have it installed now....
[04:37] <jewels9321_> now do i go back to the dosbox website?
[04:37] <holotone> ChefWill: Thanks!
[04:37] <holotone> TheHighChild: Thanks!
[04:38] <TheHighChild> holotone: np, please let me know if that works out for you so i can stash it away for others users
[04:39] <OOD> jewels9321: brb
[04:40] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, it doesn't look like the PSM is what I need... I mean that the login saver isn't prompting me for to save logins 98% of the time
[04:40] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Do you mean the kwallet?
[04:40] <jewels9321_> k
[04:41] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: do you mean passwords like if you open kmail or adept? or do you mean login and password on websites?
[04:41] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, sites, like google and my ippimail and many forums I attend.
[04:42] <holotone> TheHighChild: -t 1222 worked for me, I have yet to try the startup trick
[04:42] <holotone> TheHighChild: I'll try in a bit and report back here.
[04:42] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: That is what I thought. I don't know man, I've never had any problems with it. What browser are you using?
[04:43] <adamant1988> firefox
[04:43] <AmyJ> part
[04:44] <OOD> jewels9321: start Konsole and type in dosbox
[04:44] <jewels9321_> k
[04:45] <adamant1988> another dumb question...
[04:45] <adamant1988> how can I get the clock to read in 12 hours instead of 24?
[04:45] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Did you install that PSM? If so, did you restart your firefox completley?
[04:46] <Dawei> Healot: I have done what you and CheeseBurgerMan suggested about "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". When I reboot what should I expect?
[04:46] <adamant1988> no I didn't yet
[04:46] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Didn't install PSM or didn't restart firefox?
[04:46] <OOD> jewels9321: and dosbox should start up, then in dosbox type in 'intro' for an intro to get it working
[04:47] <adamant1988> just installed the psm and restarted firefox
[04:47] <adamant1988> now I need to test it
[04:47] <jewels9321_> k... i did
[04:48] <adamant1988> nope.. still not given a save password dialogue...
[04:48] <Healot> David, kubuntu-desktop should be installed, jsut log off and log on again, and you should see KDE in the Session menu (logon screen)
[04:48] <Healot> Dawei: anyways is the install succeed?
[04:49] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Go to Edit > preferences in firefox
[04:49] <adamant1988> ok
[04:49] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Then go to Privacy tab and select passwords
[04:49] <jewels9321_> OOD: do you just need to type in a couple commands to get it working? do you know which ones?
[04:49] <adamant1988> ok
[04:49] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: is "save passwords" selected?
[04:49] <adamant1988> yeah
[04:50] <Dawei> Healot: install did just fine, so far as I can tell
[04:50] <jewels9321_> OOD: I remember running KQ4 in dos as a kid, cannot remember the commands for the life of me
[04:50] <OOD> jewels9321: you'll have to mount wherever your game is
[04:50] <adamant1988> it will work sometimes
[04:50] <OOD> it says in the intro how
[04:50] <adamant1988> but on some sites it doesn't work at all...
[04:51] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: What you've probably done is selected "never ask for passwords" when the box popped up the first time
[04:52] <jewels9321_> k
[04:52] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: it will ask for every place you login to, if you've selected 'never save passwords for this site' then it will never ask again
[04:54] <SpAwN> hello does anyone know the syntax to add a exact resolution and refresh rate in the xorg.conf....its at 1280x1024 75 Hz sould be at 1280x1024 at 60Hz
[04:54] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: What I would suggest doing is  in edit > preferences > privacy > cookies   I would select 'view cookies' and remove all the ones from the sites that you can't save your password for. I would then restart firefox
[04:54] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Try it with 1 or 2 and see if it works
[04:54] <jewels9321_> so mount c /home/user/??????
[04:54] <jewels9321_> ??? what do i put there
[04:54] <OOD> jewels9321: if that's where the game is, then yes
[04:55] <OOD> then to change to c, type c:
[04:55] <OOD> then just type in kq4.exe or whatever it's called
[04:55] <jewels9321_> mount c /home/user/kq4.exe
[04:55] <jewels9321_> ??
[04:55] <TheHighChild> All you Kubunters out there.....You all freaking rock!
[04:55] <adamant1988> ok I'll try that TheHighChild
[04:56] <OOD> no, you just mount the folder
[04:56] <jewels9321_> i don't think i even have the game yet
[04:56] <RawSewage> I think KDE is faster than GNOME, unless a native Ubuntu install runs faster than Gnome on Kubuntu
[04:56] <OOD> lol
[04:56] <jewels9321_> can i get the game for free off the internet or do i have to play kq 3 because i have the cd for it???
[04:57] <OOD> i don't know where you'd find the game
[04:57] <OOD> wait
[04:57] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, that's not the problem =\
[04:57] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Have you restarted the browser?
[04:57] <adamant1988> I removed the cookies for my ippimail and for a webforum I frequent
[04:57] <adamant1988> no lemme try that really quick
[04:58] <flashpc> hello
[04:58] <FluxLover|AFK|> Anyone use KXDocker?
[04:59] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: When restarting the browser, make sure there aren't any download windows or properties windows open. Otherwise it will close the window but not the process. You can type 'killall firefox' if need be
[04:59] <adamant1988> ok
[04:59] <flashpc> would anyone be kind enought to help me (a linux noob) setup divx/xvid for totem?
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> !w32codecs
[04:59] <ubotu> w32codecs can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages. Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html
[05:00] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, I restarted.. no luck
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: You need w32codecs but most people use kaffeine or codeine with kde
[05:01] <flashpc> i am under gnome at the moment
[05:01] <Healot> !find gstreamer
[05:01] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (and 82 others)
[05:01] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Ok man, last thing I know to try (other than removing all cookies) go to edit > preferences > content and make sure that javascript is enabled. Also, are you running NoScript plugin for firefox?
[05:01] <flashpc> i believe i already hae w32codecs installed
[05:01] <Healot> !info gstreamer-ugly
[05:01] <ubotu> Package gstreamer-ugly does not exist in dapper
[05:01] <Healot> !info gstreamer0.10-ugly
[05:01] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-ugly does not exist in dapper
[05:01] <Healot> !info gstreamer0.10-mad
[05:01] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10-mad does not exist in dapper
[05:01] <adamant1988> TheHighChild, nope, I didn't download that plugin.  I'll check java but seeing as how I can use java aps on sites I think it's enabled..
[05:02] <Healot> !info gstreamer0.10
[05:02] <ubotu> Package gstreamer0.10 does not exist in dapper
[05:02] <Healot> !find gstreamer0.10
[05:02] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.10-alsa, gstreamer0.10-doc, gstreamer0.10-esd, gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs, gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (and 25 others)
[05:02] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: where should the real codes be?  I found a setting in xine to point it to the location of those codecs
[05:02] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Not java, javascript very very very different
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> !info totem-xine
[05:02] <ubotu> totem-xine: A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.4.1-0ubuntu4 (dapper), package size 1039 kB, installed size 5128 kB
[05:02] <adamant1988> javascript is enabled...
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> !info libxine-extracodes
[05:02] <ubotu> Package libxine-extracodes does not exist in dapper
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> !info libxine-extracodecs
[05:02] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:03] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: I really don't know man. I'm sorry I feel stupid now. I can only suggest clearing all of your cookies and seeing if that helps
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: Install totem-xine and libxine-extracodecs
[05:03] <adamant1988> naw, it's a firefox problem as far as I know, that's why I was looking for an alternative...
[05:03] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: If you did a 'sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs' it should put them in the right place.
[05:04] <flashpc> h3sp4wn ... okay
[05:04] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: actually, Im trying to get this to work on another linux distro also, that doesn't have the libxine-extracodecs pack
[05:04] <adamant1988> could you test it out to make sure I'm not crazy TheHighChild? one of the sites in question is the ubuntu forums.
[05:04] <arcturus> aren't many of these issues solvable with automatix or easyubuntu?
[05:04] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: But honestly, I'm not really sure where xine houses it's stuff. I don't use it. I'm an  mplyer and VLC kid of guy. I suggest 'sudo updatedb && locate xine |grep codecs'  i'll take a few minutes to update your slocate database
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> flashpc: If you want to use gtreamer you are more likely to have luck finding help in #ubuntu
[05:05] <arcturus> seems there's always a dependency missing
[05:05] <arcturus> automatix or easyubuntu front run the dependency issues
[05:05] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: I think this page is pretty much what is happening to you, kind of hard to read though http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26901.html
[05:05] <flashpc> uhm, what deterimines program file associations if i want to change media players?
[05:06] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: /usr/lib/xine/plugins
[05:06] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: I would use mplayer exclusively, but its support of DVD menus and chapters is poor, compared to xine, same with vlc
[05:07] <bioticpro> thx
[05:07] <adamant1988> so does that mean you don't know of any alternative programs TheHighChild ?
[05:07] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Unfortunately bro, I am out of suggestions. I can't think of anything else offhand. I will google a bit more thouhg
[05:08] <adamant1988> thanks :)
[05:08] <arcturus> !file associations
[05:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about file associations
[05:10] <Lunar_Raven> arcturus.
[05:10] <Lunar_Raven> good band
[05:10] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[05:10] <arcturus> so I've heard :)
[05:10] <arcturus> they stole my name I've had for 15 years now :)
[05:10] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: yeeeha, I set the location to /usr/lib/real in Xine>setup>decoder>path to realplayer codecs, now it works
[05:11] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:11] <Lunar_Raven> has anyone tried the new mepis (which is based on ubuntu now)?
[05:11] <arcturus> where are file associations set in kubuntu?
[05:11] <Lunar_Raven> uhh
[05:11] <Lunar_Raven> kde control panel, I believe
[05:11] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: Ok, one more though. When you go somewhere that you cannot log in to. Put the cusor in the login box and select the box. Does it show a dropdown list of other potential logins? Then try typing the first letter in and see if it offers multiple usernames
[05:12] <adamant1988> ok I'll try that
[05:12] <Lunar_Raven> Control center > kde components > file associations
[05:12] <Lunar_Raven> :)
[05:12] <Lunar_Raven> err..that's in kcontrol, though
[05:12] <Lunar_Raven> I know kubuntu uses their own layout
[05:12] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: I wouldn't suggest that. Because then you lose you on the codecs that xine provides. I would instead suggest making a sym link from the /usr/lib/real into the /usr/lib/xine/plugins
[05:12] <Lunar_Raven> (isnt on kubuntu atm)
[05:12] <OOD> Lunar_Raven: no i haven't, is it any good?
[05:13] <OOD> mepis that is
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> I havent tried it, I think I will though
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> I want to
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[05:13] <OOD> it sounds so easy that i wouldn't have to do anything :P
[05:13] <arcturus> thanks lunar
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> np
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> I've used past versions of mepis, it is VERY easy
[05:13] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: that would look like 'cd /usr/lib/xine/plugins && ln -s /usr/lib/real/codecname .' the period means your current directory
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> A check box installs nvidia drivers
[05:13] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[05:14] <OOD> lol
[05:14] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:14] <OOD> not bad
[05:14] <Lunar_Raven> I use to use slackware, but got lazy...now I love GUI tools
[05:14] <OOD> haha
[05:14] <Lunar_Raven> hah
[05:14] <orient2000> Hi! Is there any simulator to play games from CD's made for gameboxes. I do not know much about gaming but I want some good games for kids.
[05:14] <unix_infidel> gui tools are the spawn of my existence.
[05:14] <unix_infidel> but i use them anyway :P
[05:14] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:15] <Lunar_Raven> I heard the new mepis is slow though...according to tuxmachines.. =\ so I'm pondering trying it or not
[05:15] <TheHighChild> orient2000: Check out the game packages for edubuntu
[05:15] <Lunar_Raven> I am on 256mb of ram, after all.
[05:15] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: I don't think its necessary, cause that decoder location in xine is only for real codecs, not any other plugins/codecs
[05:15] <OOD> only problem with kubuntu is that kde is a but buggy :(
[05:15] <Lunar_Raven> kubuntu is pretty speedy
[05:15] <Lunar_Raven> yeah, it's a bit
[05:15] <OOD> bit*
[05:15] <unix_infidel> good thing i dont use kde then eh?
[05:16] <OOD> my desktop icons refuse to auto aline since a few days :(
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> Well, i've never experienced anything serious
[05:16] <OOD> now all my icons are so crooked :P
[05:16] <arcturus> 00D: easy solution ... don't have desktop icons :)
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> yeah, I think that's a kde book itself
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:16] <flashpc> h3sp4wn: thanks again ... it works
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> but desktop icons are pretty =(
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:16] <orient2000> I have it but I want some big game. Are there any big games for linux I can buy?
[05:16] <OOD> yesh they are
[05:16] <flashpc> what bit torrent client do you guys recommend?
[05:16] <zardoz> say no to desktop icons
[05:16] <Healot> Doom?
[05:16] <Lunar_Raven> yesh
[05:16] <OOD> doom3 ? unreal 2004? quake 4?
[05:17] <OOD> there are some good freeware and opensource ones too
[05:17] <TheHighChild> OOD: right click on desktop > configure desktop > behavior > file icons > automatically line up files
[05:17] <Lunar_Raven> I wish more 'big' games were supported though
[05:17] <arcturus> UT2K4 runs like butter on my system
[05:17] <Lunar_Raven> I resort to cedega, which works fairly well
[05:17] <OOD> TheHighChild: yes i know, that's the bug :D
[05:17] <Zaire> well apparently Kubuntu doesn like it when you have 2 different ram chips with differen frequencies lol
[05:17] <TheHighChild> OOD: oh, gotcha, my bad
[05:17] <arcturus> esp in dual channel, lol
[05:18] <Zaire> just found that out lol
[05:18] <TheHighChild> Zaire: name an OS or hardware configuration tha does
[05:18] <Lunar_Raven> I can't wait until kde 4.0.  Sounds cool
[05:18] <arcturus> flashpc: i've heard Opera has a very good bit torrent belive it or not
[05:19] <Zaire> well winblows will run but winblows .....well blows lol
[05:19] <flashpc> i usually run uTorrent under windows
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> opera bittorent is very nice
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> just integrated into their download manager
[05:19] <arcturus> Opera 9 is fantastic
[05:19] <flashpc> well i am kinda of used to firefox :p
[05:19] <OOD> firefox FTW :P
[05:19] <jewels9321_> OOD: I have KQ6 on Cdrom.  I have it in system:/media/hda and it is kq6.bmp what do i do now?
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> well, there is azurues, which is great..aside the fact that it is a java program
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> lol.
[05:19] <Zaire> mmmmm firefox browsing lol
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> and java is slowwww for me
[05:19] <bioticpro> TheHighChild: btw, thx for listening and helpful suggestions
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> ktorrent is cool
[05:19] <Lunar_Raven> flash, i'd try ktorrent for awhile
[05:20] <TheHighChild> bioticpro: np, I hope I was able to help
[05:20] <OOD> jewels9321: a bmp is a picture
[05:20] <flashpc> i've used azurues a ot, but it really bugged me on the processor/memory usage
[05:20] <Zaire> I haven't had any probs with ktorrent I like it better then azureus personally
[05:20] <jewels9321_> that is what i thought
[05:20] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[05:20] <flashpc> esepecially after i switched to utorrent
[05:20] <Lunar_Raven> ktorrent IS better now, in my opinion
[05:20] <Lunar_Raven> very light weight and works great
[05:20] <jewels9321_> what do i do is there anything i can do or just call it a night because it will take forever to do?
[05:20] <flashpc> and it's already installed
[05:20] <Lunar_Raven> yesh
[05:20] <Zaire> plus has built in torrent search engines
[05:20] <OOD> jewels: mount the whole cd, and also mount some folder you want to have kq on, then run whatever exe on the cd installs the game
[05:20] <arcturus> what torrents do you guys share?
[05:21] <orient2000> for me gnutella is the best
[05:21] <flashpc> i got this live dvd from bit torrent
[05:21] <flashpc> the kubuntu dvd
[05:21] <OOD> jewels9321: to mount more than one place use another letter: like mount d instead of mount c
[05:21] <arcturus> ok, that's one :)
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> I wish I had a dvdrw on my comp
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> ;[
[05:22] <Zaire> me to lol
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:22] <OOD> same, cd's suck now :P
[05:22] <jewels9321_> OOD: K
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[05:22] <Zaire> Im gonna buy one soon for 40 bux
[05:22] <OOD> i always get my friend to burn dvd's for me :D
[05:22] <arcturus> you must be really poor, lunar
[05:22] <arcturus> they're only $35 US
[05:22] <flashpc> so under linux what controls the default file associations .. like the classes_root hive under windows
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> no denying there
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[05:22] <flashpc> ?
[05:22] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:22] <Zaire> Im unemployed lol
[05:23] <flashpc> see slacker in wikipedia to make yourself feel good
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> I reaaaaaaaally need more ram, but my computer uses RDRAM...and ahgg..it's soo expensive
[05:23] <arcturus> !poor
[05:23] <ubotu> I know nothing about poor
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> I only have 256
[05:23] <arcturus> lol
[05:23] <Zaire> rd ram lol mine DDR only way to go
[05:23] <unix_infidel> is there anywya to disable the nvidia splash screen?
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> yeah
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> I bought a dell
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> =(
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> lol.
[05:23] <arcturus> DUDE
[05:23] <arcturus> !
[05:23] <Lunar_Raven> o.O
[05:23] <OOD> jewels9321: and switch between the 2 mounter places with c: , or d: or z: etc
[05:23] <Zaire> lol I bought my parts and built mine lol
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> I might do that
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> much cheaper
[05:24] <Zaire> its not that hard really
[05:24] <arcturus> i build all mine
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> I'm just not experienced with that, so I'd hate to mess up and have it explode or something
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> lol
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> :P
[05:24] <arcturus> they rarely explode, lol
[05:24] <Lunar_Raven> haha
[05:24] <Zaire> whats gonna explode stuff only plugs in a certain way lol
[05:24] <arcturus> but no impossible :)
[05:24] <arcturus> er not
[05:25] <Lunar_Raven> :D
[05:25] <arcturus> i had one catch fire
[05:25] <Zaire> me to lol
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Why can't I copy files from one partition to another?
[05:25] <Lunar_Raven> I was thinking about getting an emachine at one point..cheap and not bad from what i've seen, but everyone tells me they suck
[05:25] <arcturus> took the psu, hard drive, and floppy
[05:25] <OOD> unix_infidel: yes there is, add Option "NoLogo" to the xorg.conf
[05:25] <Zaire> antec slk case my floppy drive started on fire lol
[05:25] <orient2000> make sure you put fan on cpu:)
[05:25] <unix_infidel> OOD: yea, did a quick google after it took yall a while to respond.
[05:25] <arcturus> floppies burn nicely :)
[05:25] <Zaire> apparently so lol
[05:25] <arcturus> oil in the motor mechanism
[05:26] <unix_infidel> OOD: yall gotta be more snappy next time :P
[05:26] <OOD> unix_infidel: ah ok :P
[05:26] <mythtv_> hi all, i just compiled kernel 2.6.17.3, rebooted and everything is fine except i'm unable to mount /dev/hdb1 XFS.  error: device already in use or /backup is busy. no error in log files.  any ideas?
[05:26] <flashpc> is there a daemon tools like image mounter for linux?
[05:26] <Zaire> daemon tools always a handy thing to keep around lol
[05:26] <flashpc> something that lets you mount bin/cue files?
[05:26] <Healot> !info bchunk
[05:26] <ubotu> bchunk: CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.2.0-1 (dapper), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:26] <arcturus> i think linux handles mouting natively
[05:27] <orient2000> How can I find what is device 168 on my computer?
[05:27] <dr_willis> yea - sad how many games are detecting the dvd-emulators and refuse to install these days
[05:27] <dr_willis> You can easially mount .iso files
[05:27] <Healot> you need to convert that bin/cue image to ISO image first, flashpc and then mount the new ISO image
[05:27] <flashpc> so linux can mount an iso file as a device?
[05:27] <OOD> yea
[05:27] <dr_willis> not sure about cue/bin - could convert them to iso i guess.
[05:27] <Lunar_Raven> yes it can
[05:27] <Healot> mount -o lo <filename> <directory>
[05:27] <unix_infidel> hey dr_willis
[05:27] <dr_willis> :)
[05:28] <Healot> mount -t iso9660  -o lo <filename> <directory>
[05:28] <Healot> heh
[05:28] <mythtv_> any ideas on my problem?  thanks
[05:28] <Healot> as the command describe, ISO9660 image only
[05:28] <flashpc> :(
[05:28] <Zaire> anyone here know of a good water cooling system that doesn't have a giant res thats 2 feet tall lol
[05:28] <Healot> mythtv_: did you include to compile the support for XFS?
[05:28] <mythtv_> yes
[05:28] <flashpc> so i would need to determine if an iso is the right format, and somehow convert them if not
[05:29] <dr_willis> Zaire,  i think water cooling is a little over kill.
[05:29] <arcturus> mythTV: fdisk -l showing anything unusual?
[05:29] <mythtv_> nothing at all
[05:29] <dr_willis> Zaire,  there are some neat kits however. but it depends on how many fans ya want and how quiet. :P and cost.
[05:29] <mythtv_> booted via old kernel and everything is working fine now
[05:29] <mythtv_> but i've no idea whats up with 2.6.17.3
[05:29] <Zaire> perhaps but might not be for my new system its gonna have a AMD64 Dual core 4800+ and 4 300 gig HD
[05:30] <unix_infidel> Zaire: hopefully in RAID...and not just individually.
[05:30] <unix_infidel> it'd be a waste :P
[05:30] <TheHighChild> Anyone know the command to clear your saved .debs? apt-cache clear?
[05:30] <Healot> #hardware > Zaire?
[05:30] <Healot> clean, TheHighChild
[05:30] <Zaire> well yea I was gonna try to get a board with quad Sata
[05:30] <TheHighChild> Healot: ahh, thanks man ;)
[05:31] <unix_infidel> I love how people build like super high end systems and then realize its going to be a little biznitch to cool during the summer time.
[05:31] <MrObvious> Lmao.
[05:31] <Zaire> lol I like to go hardcore lol
[05:31] <TheHighChild> Healot: i get an "Invallid operation clean' any other ideas?
[05:31] <arcturus> even in Alaska, lol
[05:31] <MrObvious> All you need is a good HSF and decent fans for intake/exhaust.
[05:32] <Healot> apt-get clean
[05:32] <MrObvious> And AS-5.
[05:32] <Healot> not apt-cache
[05:32] <unix_infidel> MrObvious: i'm running a sempron with no cooling whatsoever.
[05:32] <dr_willis> track down that one case thats made from pvc pipe and window fans. :P
[05:32] <unix_infidel> and i'm getting actual work done :)
[05:32] <Zaire> yea was gonna get a thermaltake s-viking case
[05:32] <arcturus> which sempron?
[05:32] <Healot> from the man apt-get "clean  - clean  clears  out  the  local  repository  of  retrieved  package  files."
[05:32] <MrObvious> Uhh, what do you do, lower the clockrate?
[05:32] <MrObvious> What are your temps?
[05:32] <TheHighChild> ahh thanks
[05:32] <unix_infidel> 3100+.  MrObvious yea, dynamic clocking...
[05:32] <unix_infidel> temps are usually below 40
[05:33] <arcturus> you don't overclock?
[05:33] <Zaire> my temps?
[05:33] <TheHighChild> Healot: yeah, i always check the man pages before asking, unfortunately I thought it was an apt-cache command. sorry for the nubynes
[05:33] <Zaire> mine are anywhere from 10 celcius to 25 celcius tops 30
[05:33] <Healot> apt-cache is for dependecy checking or something
[05:34] <unix_infidel> Zaire: remember though, you're actually using fans to cool your box :)
[05:34] <unix_infidel> i'm usually at 35 and i'm not running any fans :)
[05:34] <arcturus> unix_infidel: you live in Alaska, right?  :)
[05:35] <Zaire> yeps my max clock is from 1800 Mhz to 2088 Mhz and mine also has 800Mhz hyper transport
[05:35] <unix_infidel> arcturus: nope...texas :)
[05:35] <arcturus> ahhh :)
[05:35] <OOD> you have cooln quiet on?
[05:36] <arcturus> my overclock:  1800 -> 2800!
[05:36] <unix_infidel> arcturus: sempron?  which one?
[05:36] <arcturus> gotta luv those Opterons!
[05:36] <arcturus> Opteron 146
[05:36] <OOD> you have an Opteron? daym
[05:36] <arcturus> 3 of 'em :)
[05:36] <Zaire> Sempron64 3100+
[05:36] <unix_infidel> arcturus: yea, my university wants me to build a cluster with 10-20 nodes of quad xeons :)
[05:36] <DaSkreech> Why can't I copy files from one partition to another?
[05:36] <arcturus> whoa!
[05:37] <OOD> have fun with that, lol
[05:37] <dr_willis> DaSkreech,  gee how vague
[05:37] <unix_infidel> i might get to keep one of the nodes when they get more grant money :)
[05:37] <DaSkreech> well I have one partition mounted as me I assume the other is root
[05:38] <unix_infidel> the master is some computer they've already got built and stuff...
[05:38] <DaSkreech> if I copy folders like 1/2 the files are uncopyable
[05:38] <OOD> corruption?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> I copy them to my home folder
[05:38] <DaSkreech>  then I can't copy them back
[05:38] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> That's very strange to me
[05:39] <DaSkreech> I can see the files open them, pretty much do anything except copy them
[05:39] <dr_willis> cat whateverfile
[05:39] <dr_willis> and see if ya can read them at all
[05:40] <MehAdult> Hmm.
[05:41] <MehAdult> Now.
[05:41] <flashpc> cool, ktorrent looks pretty good
[05:41] <dr_willis> flashpc,  i had a littel bug with it - where it would  download 99.99% of a torrent then not finish. :P
[05:41] <OOD> that's a router problem
[05:41] <dr_willis> flashpc,  exiting the program and restarting it would then finish the torrent. :)
[05:41] <flashpc> that was probably a problem with the torrent file
[05:42] <flashpc> oh
[05:42] <dr_willis> it was mentioned as a bug in the ktorrent program on their website
[05:42] <OOD> oh ok
[05:42] <flashpc> a lot of ppl have the 99.9% problem
[05:42] <dr_willis> it may be fixed by now.. BUT kubuntu may not be updated yet.
[05:42] <orient2000> I have the same problem with gnutella 99% and stop
[05:42] <xenoterracide> OOD: I am really frustrated... don't know what i am doing..... i mounted the whole cd but don't know why i need to create a folder etc
[05:42] <OOD> that's also a known problem with routers for all off bittorent
[05:42] <flashpc> well if it gets stuck i will exit and restart
[05:43] <flashpc> thanks for the info
[05:43] <xenoterracide> xenoterracide is jewels9321 because xeno is on my computer trying to set up network printer
[05:43] <OOD> xenoterracide: you need to mount the cd to install the game, then you need to moutn another folder to have somewhere to install the game
[05:43] <OOD> xenoterracide: unless you can play the game off the cd
[05:44] <DaSkreech> dr_willis: Image files
[05:44] <xenoterracide> OOD: I don't understand how to run the executable that runs the game
[05:45] <OOD> xenoterracide: it'll be somewhere on the cd, or in a folder on the cd
[05:46] <OOD> xenoterracide: to run an exe (there might be a bat file) just type the exe(or bat) filename
[05:46] <OOD> xenoterracide: to go into a folder type cd "foldername", to go back type cd ..
[05:47] <flashpc> oh god ktorrent is slow ... what's the deal?
[05:47] <flashpc> it's only connected to 4/37 seeds and 7/61 leechers and getting 0.1kbs
[05:47] <jewels9321_> i think I'll run a different game because i never got anything with the game, it was just a cd in a box of a bunch of other cds
[05:48] <OOD> jewels9321: ok, good luck :)
[05:49] <dr_willis> flashpc,  i would guess the torrent/seeders just dont like you.
[05:49] <OOD> flashpc: do you have the right ports open?
[05:49] <OOD> dr_willis: lol
[05:49] <flashpc> i am doing that now
[05:50] <SpAwN> has anyone had any luck installing the nvidia driver fromt their site...i followed the nvidia driver howto....but when im playing enemy territory it slower and looks diff plus its acting weird...i used the one on thier site on mandriva and it ran alot smoother i think
[05:50] <flashpc> whats the command to show the local ip?
[05:50] <OOD> SpAwN: there's a much easier way
[05:50] <flashpc> lke ipconfig in dos
[05:50] <jewels9321_> OOD: ever hear of the game Titanic and adventure out of time?
[05:50] <SpAwN> OOD: hows that?
[05:50] <SpAwN> !nvidia
[05:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:50] <SpAwN> ^^ followed that and its not right
[05:51] <SpAwN> ...i dont get the fps or performance/looks of what it used to be
[05:51] <OOD> jewels9321: no, don't think so
[06:00] <orient2000> I had error diring xubuntu installation Setting up mozilla-thunderbird (1.5.0.4-0ubuntu6.06.1) X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168  Major opcode:  145  Minor opcode:  3  Resource id:  0x0
[06:00] <dr_willis> sounds like a bad cd/dirty
[06:01] <orient2000> it is from download not a CD
[06:01] <dr_willis> eww.. thats not saying the hard drive is going out is it?
[06:01] <Healot> he can't run thunderbird? bug maybe?
[06:02] <Healot> !launchpad
[06:02] <ubotu> launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's Bounty and Bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[06:07] <xenoterracide> OOD: xeno and i tried to run titanic but it said it needed windows. I do have the disk for KQ7 that should work i think because you said before that dosbox will run it?
[06:20] <adamant1988> how can I add a program to my list of startup programs in dapper?
[06:26] <andre> hELLO
[06:26] <andre> i need some help
[06:26] <adamant1988> ...
[06:27] <adamant1988> is it that difficult that no one can tell me?
[06:42] <baconbacon> !ask
[06:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:42] <fek> !dance
[06:42] <ubotu> I know nothing about dance
[06:43] <bam_> !ask !dance
[06:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask !dance
[06:43] <bam_> !ask homo
[06:43] <ubotu> I know nothing about ask homo
[06:44] <bam_> !fek
[06:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about fek
[06:44] <baconbacon> adamant1988: must be somewhere in the options ... i don't use kubuntu but in ubuntu it's right there in preferences -> session
[06:49] <Zaire> anyone know how to setup twinview in kubuntu cause I want my dual monitor support lol
[06:50] <Zaire> I mean I tried going into the system config and enabling the dual support but when I restarted xserver I couldn't get back to the GUI I had to restore the original xorg.conf
[06:53] <arso_> hello
[06:54] <arso_> can anybody here hold my hand with compiling pcsx2
[06:54] <Cornellius> I'm having problems with Enlightenment. I installed E via Synaptic and everything went fine. However, once in E I've noticed that left-click with the mouse did nothing.It's supposed to open the users menu if you left-click with the mouse. Anyone knows why ?
[06:55] <imbrandon> Cornellius: #ebuntu ;)
[06:55] <Cornellius> imbrandon: Hell no
[06:55] <Cornellius> imbrandon: There's  no one in there
[06:56] <imbrandon> ahh no idea then
[06:57] <MrObvious> It's because probably of E17's key/mouse bindings
[06:57] <MrObvious> Try #e
[06:58] <_rince_> mrgn
[07:03] <Zaire> damnit what does a guy have to do to get help with dual monitor support
[07:06] <phoenix198> Could anyone help me out with a sound issue?  I have none. :\  Laptop w/ Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC'97 Audio Controller
[07:06] <imbrandon> Zaire: for one be polite, two ask if someone knows they will anwser, if they dont post on the forums politely
[07:07] <Zaire> yea well Ive been asking on ubuntu for the last 20 min with 0 resposnse so Im annoyed
[07:07] <ash211> zaire: i'm running twinview (NVidia) on Kubuntu Dapper now
[07:07] <ash211> would seeing my xorg.conf help?
[07:07] <imbrandon> Zaire: well rember these people are volenteers , and we may not HAVE an awnser, not everyone one is on irc
[07:07] <Zaire> dunno cause everytime I enable it from the GUI it won't let me boot past the kubuntu logo
[07:08] <imbrandon> wnat video card ?
[07:08] <Zaire> well then wouldn't the polite thing be to say I don't know rather then let a person keep asking -_-
[07:08] <Zaire> FX 5200
[07:08] <phoenix198> Anyone have any suggestions for me?  I have no sound.  Using a laptop with AC'97 Audio Controller.  alsa-base & alsa-utils installed, but can't run alsaconf :\
[07:08] <imbrandon> Zaire: no , its a high traffic room that wouldent be feasable
[07:09] <imbrandon> !repeat
[07:09] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[07:09] <Iam8up> how would i go about installing grub in the mbr? i isntalled windows, then linux (which worked fine) but then i installed windows again...
[07:09] <OOD> Iam8up: so you're back in windows?
[07:10] <Iam8up> sorry..should've said i've got multiple partitions...
[07:10] <Iam8up> i've got a partition with linux and another with windows
[07:10] <imbrandon> Iam8up: boot from the live cd and use the repair option would be the simplist
[07:10] <lin0x> which is the updater of kubuntu?
[07:10] <Iam8up> imbrandon - ok, thanks
[07:10] <Zaire> don't bother repeating the patience thing please Ive had to format my computer about 35 times in the last month and used 4 different OS so Im kinda out of patience thats all
[07:10] <imbrandon> lin0x: adept
[07:10] <lin0x> thx
[07:11] <suea> can anyone tell me how to start windows recovery console without access to windows or a fucking outdated floppy drive?
[07:11] <imbrandon> Zaire: i know your pain man, just trying to give you some insight that will actualy be helpfull even if its not the awnser that youy want
[07:11] <imbrandon> suea: keep the lang pg please
[07:12] <Iam8up> suea - can't you just stick in a windows cd and hit R before the install/partitino menu?
[07:12] <ash211> zaire: how does your xorg.conf compare to mine? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17063
[07:12] <imbrandon> and without a windows 2k or later bootable cd there is no way to get the recovery console
[07:12] <suea> Iam8up: no. i tried that
[07:12] <Iam8up> suea - did you use a less than legal windows cd..?
[07:12] <suea> Iam8up: no
[07:13] <suea> Iam8up: i just need to burn a cd (through kubuntu) that'll let me boot to the recovery console. if possible
[07:13] <Zaire> its quite a bit different especially from what the GUI did to my xorg it made my xorg a mess
[07:13] <ash211> do you have a backup copy of xorg?
[07:14] <Iam8up> the windows recovery console? should only be available through the method i mentioned above...
[07:14] <Zaire> a few
[07:14] <imbrandon> suea: the only way to get a "windows" recovery console is with a win2k or later cd
[07:14] <Zaire> everytime you change the xorg from the gui it saves a backup
[07:14] <suea> imbrandon: yeah, i tried the recovery cd gateway sent with this pc, but it doesn't let me boot into the recovery console
[07:15] <phoenix198> Anyone have any suggestions for me?  I have no sound.  Using a laptop with AC'97 Audio Controller.  alsa-base & alsa-utils installed, but can't run alsaconf :\
[07:15] <ash211> zaire: yep, with a '~' on the end of the file
[07:15] <suea> so i either need access to the rc, or to write to ntfs via kubuntu
[07:15] <crimsun> phoenix198: we don't ship alsaconf.
[07:15] <Iam8up> suea - you want an oem/retail copy
[07:15] <imbrandon> ahh that sucks suea but thats the only way for a windows recovery console, now what are you trying to do there may be other options to get the same thing done
[07:15] <ash211> zaire: can you post your old xorg.conf to paste.ubuntu-nl.org so I can take a look at it?
[07:15] <crimsun> phoenix198: pastebin [http://pastebin.ca]  ``cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer''
[07:15] <Zaire> nope no ~ on the end it just saves it like xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2
[07:16] <ash211> let's start with your last working version, and then put on twinview
[07:16] <suea> imbrandon: i need to re-install hal.dll to the system32 folder
[07:16] <Iam8up> suea - bartpe
[07:16] <suea> Iam8up: what?
[07:16] <imbrandon> suea: i would look into booting with a knoppix cd that will let you read/write ntfs
[07:17] <Iam8up> google for "bartpe"
[07:17] <Iam8up> it's a "windows live cd" pretty much
[07:17] <imbrandon> yea or barts pe
[07:17] <phoenix198> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/77570
[07:17] <Iam8up> barts pe or bartpe...one of the two
[07:17] <phoenix198> crimsun: thank you, btw
[07:17] <suea> imbrandon: knoppix does that?
[07:17] <Iam8up> i don't know of any linux live cd w/the ntfs write module
[07:17] <imbrandon> suea: knoppix has ntfs read/write yes ( via captive i think )
[07:18] <Iam8up> the original knoppix does NOT, i know this for sure
[07:18] <Zaire> i'll try to get into twinview xorg
[07:18] <ash211> suea: i would go with bart over knoppix, since linux ntfs write support is sketchy
[07:18] <crimsun> phoenix198: in a Konsole: amixer set 'IEC958' off && amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 0
[07:18] <suea> ash211: k
[07:18] <Iam8up> REPORTED to be sketchy....
[07:18] <Iam8up> but i do know that bartpe is easier
[07:19] <phoenix198> crimsun: http://pastebin.ca/77574  updated.
[07:19] <Zaire> this is my xorg ash211 http://pastebin.ca/77573
[07:20] <Zaire> ?
[07:21] <crimsun> phoenix198: try playing: ``aplay /usr/share/sounds/KDE*up.wav''
[07:21] <mae> yup
[07:21] <mae> whereis inflate
[07:21] <mae> mm 1 sec let me try something
[07:21] <phoenix198> crimsun:  I don't hear anything.
[07:22] <ash211> zaire: the way it looks like you're doing it is with xinerama.  that's the rightof in the serverlayout section
[07:22] <crimsun> phoenix198: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[07:22] <crimsun> phoenix198: afterward try again
[07:22] <Zaire> I used the system settings area
[07:22] <phoenix198> crimsun:  That did it!
[07:22] <phoenix198> crimsun; ...stupid question I know; but what did I just do? :P
[07:22] <mae> defunkt: ok inflate is in my path -- but what happens is i simply get nothing happening when i do "inflate hot-air
[07:22] <mae> "
[07:22] <ash211> zaire: are you comfortable hand-editing config files?
[07:23] <phoenix198> crimsun:  Much thanks btw!
[07:23] <jmichaelx> would anyone know if 2.4.27 would be the latest AMD K6-2 kernel image?
[07:23] <mae> um no
[07:23] <Zaire> depends on what all I have to edit and how much lol
[07:23] <imbrandon> no
[07:23] <ash211> its not much, and i can help you if you have questions
[07:24] <crimsun> phoenix198: different codecs have different quirks.
[07:24] <jmichaelx> hmm, how would i get a more recent k6-2 kernel?
[07:24] <Zaire> would be great cause its annoying not having a second monitor now that Im used to it lol
[07:24] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-686" for the latest one
[07:24] <ash211> zaire: i know, me too!
[07:24] <jmichaelx> linux-686?
[07:24] <ash211> first we've got to get the nvidia binary drivers
[07:25] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: without the quotes
[07:25] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: k6-2 proc are 686 right ?
[07:25] <Zaire> hmmm the drivers I could never get to install lol
[07:25] <phoenix198> crimsun:  Ok.  Hmm...Another stupid question, but what do I need to play mp3's? :\
[07:25] <jmichaelx> i was thinking there was a specific AMD kernel out there
[07:25] <imbrandon> if not use linux-386
[07:25] <ash211> twinview is provided by the nvidia drivers
[07:25] <imbrandon> not for a k62
[07:25] <ash211> that's probably where your problem started
[07:25] <imbrandon> only k7 and above
[07:25] <crimsun> phoenix198: libxine-extracodecs.
[07:25] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[07:25] <OOD> crimsun: can you help me get surround sound going? you said it might be possible with my integrated crap, erm card :P
[07:26] <jmichaelx> 2.4.27 was a kernel for k6-2, has that not been updated?
[07:26] <crimsun> OOD: I'm pretty busy for ~25 minutes, try again later.
[07:26] <phoenix198> crimsun:  Thank you very much for your help!
[07:26] <crimsun> phoenix198: np
[07:26] <ash211> zaire: one last question before installing the drivers:
[07:26] <ash211> are you using a wireless card?
[07:26] <Zaire> nope
[07:26] <ash211> good
[07:26] <OOD> crimsun: alright
[07:27] <Zaire> Im using my gigabit integrated port lol
[07:27] <ash211> go here: http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:27] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: what are you on dapper ? you should have 2.6.x ( the version isnt proc specific like 2.6.15-25-k7 etc )
[07:27] <ash211> and download, under dapper drake, the first link
[07:27] <ash211> it's envy_8762_32
[07:28] <ash211> you're not running 64-bit, are you?
[07:28] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i must have just  had the wrong idea. yes, i am in dapper, and was told that my old K6-2 machine would probably run better with a k6-2 kernel, actually i have been told this by a few people
[07:28] <Zaire> not the 64 bit OS no just have hardware
[07:28] <ash211> ok then
[07:28] <ash211> yeah, that's the right one
[07:29] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: not for k6-2 only k7 and above make a diff
[07:29] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: gotcha
[07:29] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: with k6-2 you just use 686
[07:29] <Zaire> ok I clicked on that one you told me to and it loaded something in kate
[07:29] <imbrandon> but you shouldent be using a 2.4 kernel
[07:29] <jmichaelx> i should switch to 686 on all of my machines
[07:29] <ash211> ok
[07:30] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: depends on the proc
[07:30] <imbrandon> jmichaelx:  pm
[07:30] <ash211> save it in your home directory (/home/<username>/ ) as envy_8762_32
[07:30] <OOD> hmm what would the best kernel be for an A64
[07:30] <OOD> in 32 bit
[07:30] <jmichaelx> they are all P3, celeron and P4
[07:30] <jmichaelx> and the k6-2 that i mentioned
[07:31] <jmichaelx> so i guess they would all be 686
[07:31] <ash211> then on the command line, enter "cd" <enter>, "chmod +x envy_8762_32" <enter>
[07:31] <imbrandon> jmichaelx: join #imbrandon
[07:31] <jerry> What's gam_server?
[07:31] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i am not registered
[07:32] <ash211> zaire: oh look, there are instructions on that webpage ( http://www.albertomilone.eu/europeo/nvidia_scripts1.html )
[07:32] <ash211> i skipped step 2, and now we're on 5
[07:33] <jerry> question
[07:33] <ash211> so do 2, 3, and then 5.  be careful, because you'll lose graphics while you're installing the drivers
[07:34] <ash211> "startx" gets graphics back
[07:34] <ash211> are you following all this?
[07:34] <jerry> I have a question
[07:35] <Zaire> ummm jsec
[07:36] <Lynoure> jerry: searching the web didn't help you?
[07:37] <Zaire> whoops lol
[07:37] <jerry> How do I access the firewall?
[07:37] <ash211> that work, zaire?
[07:37] <Zaire> dunno I did the sudo ./filename thing and it kicked to to a text user login lol
[07:38] <ash211> what'd you do after you logged in then?
[07:38] <Zaire> just started kdm back up
[07:38] <Lynoure> jerry: ubuntu does not come with a firewall installed by default, so first you need to choose one and configure it. But it doesn't come with ports open to the big bad world either, so don't panic.
[07:39] <jerry> ok
[07:39] <ash211> so i guess you didn't run through that script then?
[07:39] <jerry> but I'm running a program that I'm suppost to be able to telnet to and it's not telneting
[07:39] <jerry> oh man
[07:39] <Zaire> now ya lost me lol
[07:40] <ash211> that thing you downloaded is a program that installs the nvidia drivers automatically
[07:40] <flashpc> well i installed opera to check out it's bittorrent features, and unless i am missing something it's severely crippleware
[07:40] <SmrtJustin> flashpc: what don't you like about it?
[07:41] <OOD> ash211: you know there's an easier way to install the nvidia driver?
[07:41] <jerry> is there a way to see what ports are open?
[07:41] <flashpc> there are NO options othe than suspend, resume, and delete
[07:41] <flashpc> nothing to control max connections, download speeds, folders, or even view the client list
[07:41] <ash211> just apt-getting it?
[07:42] <OOD> ash211: yes
[07:42] <ash211> yeah, seems i forgot about that
[07:42] <OOD> ash211: sudo apt-get nvidia-glx
[07:42] <OOD> ash211: then sudo nvidia-xconfig to set the xorg.conf
[07:42] <OOD> that's it you're done
[07:44] <ash211> what version does that install?
[07:44] <OOD> the latest 8762
[07:44] <ash211> oh wow
[07:44] <OOD> yep
[07:44] <ash211> ok, i'll try that then
[07:44] <OOD> it's usually a day behind for a new release, but i think that's understandable ;)
[07:45] <imbrandon> !ask
[07:45] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:47] <jerry> oh man
[07:47] <OOD> ?
[07:47] <jerry1> I'm trying to IM someone and it says that he's not there
[07:47] <jerry1> using Kopete
[07:48] <jerry1> Maybe there's something wrong with my IM
[07:48] <jerry1> Can someone AIM me we6jbo
[07:50] <jerry1> How do I get my AIM account on Kopete to log in automatically?
[07:55] <suea> jerry1: go to settings>configure in kopete
[07:55] <jerry1> ok
[07:56] <suea> select your aim account and click modify
[07:56] <jerry1> ok
[07:56] <suea> check remember password
[07:56] <jerry1> ok
[07:56] <suea> put in your password and ensure that exclude from connect all is unchecked
[07:57] <suea> now hit ok,  shut down kopete, restart it and it should work fine
[07:57] <SmrtJustin> flashpc: well just use your own bittorrent client then
[07:57] <SmrtJustin> flashpc: I think the idea is to be on the basic side, for normal people
[07:57] <jerry1> it went into the tray sigh...
[07:58] <suea> lol. you have to file>quit
[07:58] <suea> to shut down kopete
[08:02] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: i ran that command on 3 PC's but ran into one problem....
[08:02] <imbrandon> ?
[08:02] <jmichaelx> my xubuntu PC will not boot up anymore
[08:03] <jmichaelx> it loads grub, says "decompressing linux , and then powers down... over and over
[08:05] <jmichaelx> imbrandon: ok, i went into the grub menu this time and just booted up the 386 kernel again and it works... looks like 686 won't work
[08:05] <imbrandon> ok then just set the 386 to defualt the k6-2 must be 586
[08:06] <imbrandon> sudo edit the /boot/grub/menu.list to do that
[08:06] <jmichaelx> yeah, no biggie
[08:06] <jmichaelx> i do appreciate the help
[08:17] <CaptainMorgan> why would Kaffeine attempt to play an .mpg with the time counting.. but give no display?
[08:18] <marcus> probably a codec thing?
[08:18] <rOOb> does anyone in here use cedega...cedega says i have no direct rendering but glxinfo | grep render says i do
[08:18] <CaptainMorgan> played them before...
[08:19] <CaptainMorgan> what do you suggest marcus?
[08:19] <Healot> !libxine-extracodecs
[08:19] <ubotu> I know nothing about libxine-extracodecs
[08:19] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:19] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:19] <TheHighChild> CaptainMorgan: you need codecs
[08:19] <TheHighChild> lol
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> lol?
[08:20] <TheHighChild> nvm
[08:20] <marcus> I agree with the others, when in doubt it's codecs :-)
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> apt-get install says I already have the latest codecs
[08:20] <CaptainMorgan> which, as I said previously - kaffeine played them before
[08:21] <TheHighChild> You may have the additional kaffeine codecs but you need the proprietary codecs
[08:21] <TheHighChild> oh, try VLC
[08:21] <lin0x> what's the difference betwen kubuntu and debian+kde?
[08:21] <marcus> maybe this mpeg includes AC3, which is proprietary
[08:21] <TheHighChild> lin0x: configuration
[08:22] <lin0x> in what way?
[08:22] <lin0x> is kubuntu easier to configure?
[08:22] <TheHighChild> lin0x: a brief one would be the inactive root
[08:23] <lin0x> does kubuntu supports reiserfs in the installation?
[08:23] <Healot> yes
[08:24] <adamant1988> I know this is stupid but is Kubuntu covered by the ubuntu certification and the professional support package?
[08:24] <TheHighChild> I don't believe it does on the livecd nstaller and on the server install I don't think you can install / on it, just other parts (speculative)
[08:24] <Healot> yes, adamant1988
[08:24] <adamant1988> good :)
[08:25] <lin0x> last question
[08:26] <lin0x> is there something like internet installation cd? (tiny cd that downloads the latest packages)
[08:26] <TheHighChild> lin0x: Sorry, you can install kubuntu on reiserfs but only using the
[08:26] <TheHighChild> Alternative cd
[08:27] <lin0x> ok
[08:27] <Healot> netinstall?
[08:27] <Healot> I think debian has that...
[08:27] <TheHighChild> lin0x: Wha arch are you installing onto?
[08:28] <Healot> !netinstall
[08:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:28] <TheHighChild> http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/ubuntu/dists/dapper/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[08:29] <Healot> yeah ubuntu ahve netinstall
[08:29] <lin0x> cool
[08:29] <lin0x> thx
[08:29] <lin0x> kubuntu rox
[08:29] <Healot> wll, it's ubuntu
[08:29] <TheHighChild> That ISO I posted is the i386, lemme know if you need a different one or want the url to the forum page
[08:30] <Healot> the desktop doesn't really matters
[08:30] <lin0x> its ok
[08:35] <linyll> hello, i got a hard problem with x and kdm, when i try to connect to kdm, x reboot... so, anyone can help me ?
[08:36] <linyll> or know how reconfigure x ?
[08:37] <TheHighChild> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg??
[08:37] <linyll> i'll try... i got nothing else to try i think... :/
[08:37] <TheHighChild> you backup your xorg.conf?
[08:38] <linyll> when i start x it's speaking of /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc ....
[08:38] <linyll> no, i don't know how to do...
[08:39] <TheHighChild> do you know how to use the konsole?
[08:39] <linyll> yes i do...
[08:40] <adamant1988> ok...
[08:40] <adamant1988> I don't have a kdisplay...
[08:41] <TheHighChild> linyll:  type 'ls /etc/X11/ |grep xorg' and tell me how many items it returns
[08:41] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: What's wrong?
[08:41] <adamant1988> well when I go to display in the control center, I get an error about a missing module
[08:41] <adamant1988> I just tried installing a color scheme a moment ago... it goes to the kdisplay folder.. I don't have one...
[08:42] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: I can't really say I use the control panel for video setup. It's messed my xorg.conf up before
[08:42] <TheHighChild> kdisplay folder?
[08:42] <adamant1988> yeah
[08:43] <TheHighChild> nvm, I'm on a different page that you, let me start over
[08:43] <adamant1988> under ~/.kde/share/apps/
[08:43] <adamant1988> but it's not there.
[08:43] <adamant1988> which explains why my display program refused to function
[08:44] <TheHighChild> adamant1988: I guess I don't know what kdisplay is man
[08:44] <linyll> TheHighChild: there's 3 items, xorg.conf xorg.conf~ and xorg.conf01165121561etc...
[08:45] <linyll> i don't know if it could be use but i find the kdm.log...
[08:45] <TheHighChild> linyll: So your xserver doesn't start?
[08:45] <TheHighChild> linyll: Do you know about failsafe terminals?
[08:45] <linyll> yes i do but kdm didn't want any log in... :/
[08:46] <TheHighChild> it won't let you login?
[08:46] <zorglu1> try to login as text
[08:46] <linyll> but, i could retry (i need to reboot for)
[08:46] <TheHighChild> or it won't start
[08:46] <TheHighChild> ok
[08:46] <linyll> x reboot when i log with kdm
[08:46] <linyll> and do not start when i start x from console
[08:47] <TheHighChild> do you know how to use failsafe terminals?
[08:47] <TheHighChild> ok
[08:47] <linyll> it's different from other console ?
[08:47] <zorglu1> any weird stuff in the xorg log ?
[08:48] <zorglu1> dump your /etc/log/Xorg.log in a pastbin
[08:48] <TheHighChild> failsafe is (ctrl + alt + f1) will bring you to a terminal. To get back to X it's ctrl + alt + f7
[08:49] <zorglu1> ahok i think linyll called that console and i called that text tty :)
[08:49] <linyll> something like that ^^
[08:50] <linyll> so, i try to login in failsafe from kdm ?
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone
[08:51] <MilhousePunkRock> How do I make Amarok or any other preinstalled media player play MP3s?
[08:52] <Healot> !mp3
[08:52] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:52] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[08:52] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[08:53] <MilhousePunkRock> Ok, thanks
[08:54] <linyll> TheHighChild: failsafe from kdm work as other...
[08:54] <linyll> wokrs*
[08:54] <linyll> works* -_-'
[08:55] <TheHighChild> linyll: Sorry, bacl
[08:56] <TheHighChild> linyll: ok so when you type 'startx' from the terminal, what happens?
[08:56] <linyll> it run... and stop
[08:56] <linyll> it's speaking of /usr/share/x11/misc/
[08:57] <linyll> X11/fonts/misc*
[08:57] <marcus> I need to some help with CUPS. cupsd is running, but KDE apps so it's not.
[08:57] <marcus> Using dapper
[08:58] <TheHighChild> can you dump your xorg log into pastebin as zorglu1 suggested?
[08:58] <linyll> the message is FreeFontPath : FPE "/usr/shareX11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[08:58] <linyll> how ?
[08:58] <linyll> i don't know x... and no where is it log ?!
[08:58] <TheHighChild> !ubotu tell linyll about pastebin
[08:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about ubotu tell linyll about pastebin
[08:58] <TheHighChild> !tell linyll about pastebin
[08:59] <linyll> ?
[09:02] <linyll> TheHighChild: how can i paste in a pastebin ?
[09:03] <word> go to a site with pastebin and paste in the textbox and submit it then give the provided url in chat
[09:03] <linyll> but.. where are the x log ?
[09:04] <word> the x log is /var/log/Xorg.0.log i think
[09:04] <TheHighChild> word: is correct. I just had a ton of googleing to find it. lol
[09:04] <TheHighChild> I suck, sorry
[09:05] <Rede> !soundcard
[09:05] <ubotu> I know nothing about soundcard
[09:05] <Rede> !sound
[09:05] <ubotu> If sound is not working, first try system -> prefrences -> multimedia system selector change it to alsa. If you still have problems then look at http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[09:05] <linyll> how can i select all and copy with vim ?
[09:06] <TheHighChild> linyll: are you in the terminal now?
[09:06] <linyll> yes
[09:06] <linyll> x doesn't run...
[09:06] <TheHighChild> damn, I was thinking you wereon another PC. I'm sorry
[09:07] <linyll> it's nothing ;)
[09:07] <TheHighChild> Personally. I would copy one of the other xorg.conf files into place and try starting X. If that didn't work. I would reconfigure the xserver. That's what I'd do
[09:08] <TheHighChild> but I am, by no means, an expert
[09:08] <Rede> ok maybe someone here can just tell me, is there a list of supported sound cards, im looking at buying a new pc and am trying to pick one
[09:08] <linyll> and how i use a back up of xorg.conf ?
[09:09] <Healot> when you made me the first batch of that song, i was thinking, that's the s*** right there
[09:09] <TheHighChild> linyll: Ok, you'll want to save the one you have 'cd /etc/X11/ && sudo cp xorg.conf xorg.conf-7-3-06-bad'
[09:11] <linyll> it's done :)
[09:11] <TheHighChild> then use one of the other ones. 'sudo cp xorg.conf<whichever> xorg.conf'   <whichever>being either of the other two you have
[09:12] <TheHighChild> I'd go with the one with the numbers first
[09:12] <TheHighChild> worth a shot
[09:13] <TheHighChild> hopefully you're familiar with tab complete
[09:13] <linyll> :)
[09:13] <linyll> and after i try startx ?
[09:13] <TheHighChild> give it a whirl
[09:13] <emonkey> Does anybody know more about the koffice update from the kubuntu.org repo?
[09:15] <TheHighChild> any luck linyll?
[09:15] <linyll> no luck anywhere for this monday morning.... :-/
[09:15] <TheHighChild> ok, type 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[09:16] <TheHighChild> see if that does anything for you.
[09:16] <TheHighChild> also, try switch to failsafe 7
[09:17] <linyll> it do something... kdm run and reboot x as everytime :)
[09:17] <TheHighChild> ok so no good?
[09:17] <linyll> no :/
[09:17] <linyll> ok, how can i reconfigure kdm and x ?
[09:18] <TheHighChild> I'd go ahead and reconfigure it 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:18] <Healot> if you installed kdm and gdm
[09:18] <Healot> just run "dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and select your favorite login manager?
[09:22] <linyll> TheHighChild: i don't know what answer for my mouse ?
[09:22] <linyll> ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2 ?
[09:23] <Healot> ImPS/2 if you do not know
[09:23] <TheHighChild> what mouse do you have?
[09:23] <Healot> even X.org never explain the differences
[09:23] <TheHighChild> is it special or standard?
[09:24] <TheHighChild> explorer is a MS thing I beleive with their mouses and the side buttons
[09:24] <TheHighChild> I could be blowing smoke, sorry
[09:26] <linyll> so i finish configuration...
[09:26] <linyll> i'll try to startx....
[09:27] <linyll> ...
[09:27] <linyll> fucking xserver... -_-
[09:27] <TheHighChild> no good?
[09:28] <linyll> no
[09:28] <linyll> i'm a bit tirred...
[09:28] <linyll> so...
[09:28] <linyll> i'll go back to windows...
[09:28] <TheHighChild> You can try reconfiguring kdm
[09:28] <linyll> how ?
[09:28] <TheHighChild> c'mon now. Windows is teh suck
[09:28] <TheHighChild> sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[09:29] <TheHighChild> what did you do before thishappened?
[09:29] <TheHighChild> change any settings or anything?
[09:29] <linyll> no no...
[09:29] <linyll> anything...
[09:30] <TheHighChild> upgrade?
[09:30] <linyll> the strange thing is that is already speaking of a problem in the /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc directory
[09:30] <linyll> no more...
[09:30] <Healot> see
[09:30] <linyll> the message is FreeFontPath : FPE "/usr/shareX11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing
[09:30] <Healot> it's magic
[09:31] <linyll> and i do not know what is it... :/
[09:32] <Healot> i think KDE display setting write the path twice in the config file?
[09:32] <linyll> i don't know... but what can i do ?
[09:32] <TheHighChild> I am reading some stuff, one sec linyll. Unless Healot knows whats up
[09:33] <linyll> ok
[09:33] <Healot> FreeFontPath : FPE "/usr/shareX11/fonts/misc" refcount is 2, should be 1 >> I really think the path had been written twice
[09:34] <linyll> Healot: yes... and what should i do ? :)
[09:34] <Healot> just remove the duplicate entry
[09:34] <Healot> if you found any, but does the X start sucessfully?
[09:34] <linyll> ho... witch is ?
[09:35] <Healot> the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> the X.org configuration file
[09:39] <TheHighChild> linyll: I can't find anything on google
[09:40] <linyll> who can remember me how to rename a file ?
[09:40] <TheHighChild> that's the last error before it brings you to a command prompt?
[09:40] <Healot> mv file newfile
[09:40] <linyll> eh... yes.. it is.
[09:40] <TheHighChild> you can mv a file or rename with mv, best to use cp though
[09:40] <SpAwN> anyone know how i can get the nvidia driver from their website to work....it says it installs fine...no errors...but when i goto restart x...it just gets hung at the kubuntu logo...the ones thats blue.....when i use the ones that adept installs x uses like 500 mbs of ram and and a fair amount of cpu...plus cedega was saying i had to direct render even though glxinfo | grep render did....i just want to be able to install the ones from
[09:40] <SpAwN>  their site
[09:41] <Healot> remove the packages installed with the official installer, keep usng the stock kernel glx instead
[09:41] <Healot> unless you're on some other distros
[09:41] <SpAwN> huh so keep using the driveer thaqt adept installs?
[09:41] <TheHighChild> Well guys, it's 4. I need to go to sleep. take care
[09:41] <linyll> removing other xorg.conf does anything...
[09:42] <TheHighChild> sorry Iwasn't able to help more linyll, good luck
[09:42] <SpAwN> even though its making my sys run like crap
[09:42] <linyll> thank you ;)
[09:42] <Healot> recommended SpAwN,
[09:42] <linyll> i thought i'll remove x and reinstall it
[09:42] <Healot> use the stock driver instead of the official installer package
[09:43] <SpAwN> the one that adept installs defiantly doesnt work like the other one did......
[09:43] <linyll> who know the name of x packages ?
[09:43] <SpAwN> i dont get the same fps.....cedega doesnt work
[09:43] <Healot> but you are having more and more bugs using the official installer right?
[09:44] <SpAwN> well somthing isnt working right......the offical one wont work.....its set to load in the xorg.conf and everything but it just hangs up
[09:44] <Healot> I don't recommend that... those proprietary bs is painful enough
[09:44] <SpAwN> i can barly play  games......
[09:44] <SpAwN> i CANT even play games on cedgea
[09:44] <Healot> which you prefer, something that works even the so-called performance suck abit?
[09:45] <Healot> or something that doesn't work at all?
[09:45] <SpAwN> when i used the driver from their site on mandriva cedega worked great
[09:45] <Healot> yeah
[09:45] <SpAwN> well im kinda  perfectionist........ill probly lose sleep over this
[09:45] <Healot> SpAwN: that's why i told you...
[09:45] <arso_> does anybody here have  pcsx2 linux ?
[09:45] <Healot> use stock driver with ubuntu
[09:46] <Healot> unless you're using other distros, you may use official installer
[09:46] <SpAwN> i cant even use the stock "nv" driver causes my whole computer to freeze i need to use vesa or the nvidia one
[09:46] <jmichaelx> i just tried to move a file from one dir to another, using sudo cp filename /destinationfilename, but it won't let me move it. after i enter the command, it says 'omitting directory filename'. would anyone know what i am doing wrong?
[09:46] <SpAwN> im using kubuntu
[09:46] <Healot> either
[09:46] <Healot> the k/x/n doesn't matter much
[09:47] <SpAwN> so i cant use the installer that nvidia provides at all?
[09:47] <arso_> umm how do i unpack a .tgz please?
[09:47] <Healot> i don;t know man, that's why it is restricted, technically nothing can be done to those proprietary bs..
[09:47] <SpAwN> hmm
[09:48] <Healot> arso_: gunzip <filename>
[09:48] <arso_> Healot:  thnx , i just right clicked , extract :P , so how do i instal the program in it?'
[09:48] <Healot> arso_: that work too bleh
[09:48] <SpAwN> that kinda blows.....
[09:48] <Healot> arso_: what package is that btw?
[09:48] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: sudo cp filename1 filename1.backup or sudo cp filename1 /directory1
[09:48] <Healot> a precompiled binary? or a source code?
[09:48] <arso_> Healot:  "pcsx2-0.8.1" ps2 emulator
[09:49] <Healot> where you got that? arso_
[09:49] <arso_> Healot:  how do i tell, i dont think its a source code, it has many files
[09:49] <jmichaelx> gatekeeper: that second command is what i used
[09:49] <Healot> okay... I don't know how to tell either. since I don't know what files it has, arso_
[09:50] <Healot> is there a README file or something in the directory, arso_?
[09:50] <zorglu1> look for a .run or .sh. especially a install.sh <- arso_
[09:50] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: does directory1 exist? can you cd /directory1 ?
[09:50] <arso_> Healot:  yes thres a readme
[09:50] <arso_> zorglu1:  k, looking
[09:50] <Healot> open that file in your favorite text editor
[09:51] <Healot> happy reading
[09:51] <jmichaelx> gatekeeper: diectory one exists, but it says 'omitting directory' whenever i try to move it
[09:51] <jmichaelx> directory1*
[09:51] <zorglu1> jmichaelx: gatekeeper: i smell a ' ' space in the filename
[09:51] <arso_> theres 3 txt, one executable, and 6 folders
[09:51] <Healot> then run the executable then, arso_
[09:52] <arso_> tried, nothing happens
[09:52] <jmichaelx> here is exactly what i entered 'sudo cp Clearlooks-DarkNice /usr/share/themes'
[09:52] <Healot> what the command you typed? arso_
[09:52] <arso_> Healot:   i clicked on it :P ,
[09:53] <arso_> Healot:  wat command shouldi  use
[09:53] <zorglu1> jmichaelx: so my nose was wrong :)
[09:53] <Healot> oh
[09:53] <jmichaelx> zorglu1: it's ok lol
[09:53] <Healot> open a terminal... arso_
[09:53] <jmichaelx> i just don't know why it's fighting me
[09:53] <Healot> copy the path on that konq window
[09:53] <arso_> Healot:  ok , in one, and file path is "/home/arso/Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2"
[09:53] <Healot> type - cd <paste the path here>
[09:54] <Healot> next type - ./<the exe name here>
[09:54] <jmichaelx> i am trying to add an xfce theme on a xubuntu box i have, and it just won't let me do it
[09:54] <arso_> Healot:
[09:54] <arso_> cd /home/arso/Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2
[09:54] <arso_> bash: cd: /home/arso/Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2: Not a directory
[09:54] <arso_> ohhh
[09:54] <Healot> it's the executable
[09:55] <arso_> without the last one
[09:55] <Healot> yeah
[09:55] <Healot> the directory, not the file
[09:55] <arso_> hai
[09:55] <Healot> after that ./pcsx2
[09:56] <arso_> /Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1$ ./pcxs2
[09:56] <arso_> bash: ./pcxs2: No such file or directory
[09:56] <Healot> are you typing it correctly?
[09:56] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: take a look at this: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/dirman.html
[09:56] <Qui_Gon^> Hello people!
[09:56] <Qui_Gon^> :)
[09:56] <arso_> arso@Arso:~/Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1$ ./pcsx2
[09:56] <arso_> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:56] <jmichaelx> gatekeeper: will do
[09:56] <Healot> arso_: now isntall this
[09:56] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: is what you are trying to copy a single file?
[09:56] <Healot> !info libgtk1.2-common
[09:56] <ubotu> libgtk1.2-common: Common files for the GTK+ library. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 154 kB, installed size 940 kB
[09:56] <arso_> Healot:  k
[09:57] <jmichaelx> gatekeeper: it is a folder
[09:57] <Qui_Gon^> I have an old PC where i want to install Kubuntu...but i don't know if it's enough light...
[09:57] <Healot> libgtk1.2-common << this one
[09:57] <Healot> next run the exec again...
[09:57] <arso_> Healot:  after the cd<path> or in a new root
[09:57] <jmichaelx> Qui_Gon^: what is you PC?
[09:57] <Qui_Gon^> I tryed to install Xubuntu, but the CD doesn't work...I don't know why
[09:57] <Healot> arso_: to install type "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-common"
[09:57] <Qui_Gon^> My PC is an old PII 166 mhz
[09:58] <Qui_Gon^> 136 MB of ram
[09:58] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: cp -r dir1 /dir2
[09:58] <Healot> on the current directory... it doesn;t matter
[09:58] <arso_> k
[09:58] <Healot> next enter your password
[09:58] <jmichaelx> Qui_Gon^:  kubuntu will not work on that
[09:58] <Qui_Gon^> really?
[09:58] <jmichaelx> not well anyways
[09:58] <Qui_Gon^> :(
[09:58] <arso_> Healot:  wat is that btw/
[09:58] <Healot> Qui_Gon^: it can, use the alternate CD install
[09:58] <Zaire> ok thats odd the universe and multiverse for the mp3 format is enabled in the adept repositories in accordance to the help page but I still can't play mp3's
[09:58] <Healot> which one, arso_
[09:59] <Qui_Gon^> And Xubuntu? U think that could works?
[09:59] <arso_> Healot:  "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2-common"
[09:59] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: copy recursively all it's contents :-)
[09:59] <arso_> Healot:  ok installation done
[09:59] <Healot> xubuntu suits your pc spec
[09:59] <jmichaelx> Qui_Gon^: yes, maybe with the alternate CD, but xubuntu would be better,,, in fact, i would use damn small linux or something like that
[09:59] <arso_> Healot:  now wat?
[09:59] <jmichaelx> gatekeeper: thank you so much
[09:59] <Healot> run the game again, arso_?
[09:59] <arso_> k
[09:59] <os2mac> really having problems with my wlan card....
[09:59] <os2mac> can't seem to get it enabled...
[10:00] <gatekeeper> jmichaelx: you are welcome :-)
[10:00] <Healot> os2mac: what card, os2mac?
[10:00] <Akopley> hi folks, ive just innstaled kubuntu, and how do i do updates? is there a web page for updating?
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> Also Damn Small Linux doesn't work there...
[10:00] <arso_> Healot:
[10:00] <arso_> ~/Desktop/pcsx2-0.8.1/pcsx2-0.8.1$ ./pcsx2
[10:00] <arso_> ./pcsx2: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> I can't install on HD
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> I don't know why
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> but doesn't work
[10:00] <jmichaelx> hmmm
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> also with it
[10:00] <Healot> arso_: did libgtk1.2-common installation finisihed?
[10:00] <Qui_Gon^> Only from CD
[10:00] <gatekeeper> Akopley: use your package manager
[10:00] <arso_> Healot:  yes, successfully
[10:01] <Qui_Gon^> can work
[10:01] <Healot> !info libgtk1.2
[10:01] <ubotu> libgtk1.2: The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (dapper), package size 817 kB, installed size 1772 kB
[10:01] <os2mac> 0000:02:03.0 Network Controller: Broacom Corp BCM4309 802.11a/b/g
[10:01] <os2mac>  s / Broacom / Broadcom
[10:02] <Akopley> gatekeeper package manager, do i find it in kubuntu? sorry, it my first time linux stuff, im a noob
[10:02] <Healot> sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2 << arso_ does apt-get prompt you to install?
[10:02] <Healot> !broadcom
[10:02] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:02] <Qui_Gon^> When I'm tring to install Xubuntu... It shows me an error...
[10:02] <Qui_Gon^> I/O error
[10:02] <Qui_Gon^> reboot
[10:02] <Healot> broadcom is the pain for most wifi
[10:03] <Qui_Gon^> I/O error...i can't read on CD.. please reboot
[10:03] <os2mac> tried this WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[10:03] <gatekeeper> Akopley: k -> System -> Adept I think if you run apt-get update from the command line that will also work
[10:03] <Healot> os2mac: oh you tried that already
[10:03] <arso_> Healot:  yes, and i pres
[10:03] <arso_> "y"
[10:03] <arso_> Healot:  downloading now
[10:03] <arso_> Healot:  65% so when its done, i click on the executable?
[10:04] <os2mac> and it still doesn't work... I get Access Point : invalid  even after I did thier trouble shooting tips.
[10:04] <Healot> yes///
[10:04] <Healot> arso_: how many packages it says it want to install?
[10:04] <arso_> umm where does it sayy?
[10:04] <arso_> but its over now
[10:04] <os2mac> when I go look in iwconfig after I run that, iwconfig reports the card as a Broadcom 4306
[10:04] <Healot> does it prompt you to press Y, arso_?
[10:05] <Akopley> gatekeeper thanx, found it :)
[10:05] <arso_> Healot:  ok when i click on exe, i get a msg, pcsx2 needs to be installed
[10:05] <gatekeeper> Akopley: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_manually_update_Ubuntu
[10:05] <arso_> Healot:  yes, it did once, and i clicked yes
[10:05] <Healot> arso_: run the exec again?
[10:05] <arso_> its running
[10:05] <arso_> i got some configuration window from the program
[10:06] <os2mac> I have also tried NDISWRAPPER for it and that fails as well....
[10:06] <Healot> the rest is up to you, arso_, I never run ps2 emulator on linux yet
[10:06] <arso_> Healot:  i see, thnx for all the help :)
[10:06] <os2mac> when I use the driver I load from windows it gives me an invalid driver error in ndiswrapper -l
[10:07] <Healot> os2mac: i don't have a broadcom wifi... can't help much... the wiki should settle most of your problem
[10:07] <Healot> jsut one recommendation get wifi controller that FSF recommends...
[10:07] <os2mac> and when I load from the LIVE CD I get "can't load /lib/firmware/microcode4fw"
[10:08] <os2mac> so much for software that just works.
[10:08] <Healot> arso_: you see the PS2 emulator config screen?
[10:08] <Healot> os2mac: those proprietary bs suck... the only two you can blame are yourself and the manufacturer
[10:11] <arso_> Healot:  yes
[10:11] <Healot> arso_: do you have a valid PS2 BIOS image?
[10:11] <arso_> Healot:  bios image?
[10:11] <Healot> you need that for psx2c....
[10:11] <arso_> Healot:  wat does that mean :P
[10:12] <Healot> don't you read that on the site?
[10:12] <Healot> it's an emulator... it need the PS2 BIOS image to run your PS2 games
[10:12] <arso_> i am checxking the site now
[10:12] <Zaire> finding a valid legal bios would be impossible and most emulator sites wont have them
[10:12] <Healot> i have my own dumped BIOS
[10:13] <Healot> because I own a PS2
[10:13] <arso_> me 2
[10:13] <arso_> but where can i get a bios image
[10:13] <Zaire> yea thats pretty much the only way other then maybe google search for a bios
[10:13] <Healot> not giving it publicly though... i got this dumper cable like $20 or so... cheh
[10:13] <arso_> lol
[10:14] <arso_> thats a lot for a cable tho
[10:14] <Zaire> don't really care to have on my PC I prefer to keep my console games on the console
[10:14] <Healot> i've been ripped, but at least the cable work
[10:14] <Healot> yeah, emulators are for poor people :)
[10:14] <Zaire> yeps lol
[10:14] <arso_> i only want an emulator , coz i am having a hard time with wine
[10:14] <arso_> i got a working ps2 but i don wanna walk out to my tv
[10:14] <Zaire> sides its easier to just get your machine modded lol
[10:15] <Zaire> I have 3 PSX and 1 PS2 1 PSX doesn't work but the other 2 do lol
[10:16] <arso_> looool
[10:16] <arso_> i got 1 ps1 1 ps2 one psp
[10:16] <Healot> just one ps2, i sold my older psx
[10:16] <arso_> lol mustve sold cheap
[10:16] <Zaire> ones an old model 7000 the others are the new PS1 models lol
[10:16] <Healot> but rarely play games
[10:16] <Healot> arso_: yeah $50
[10:17] <Healot> nah I don't give a damn no more... just want to get rid of it
[10:17] <arso_> i play on windows
[10:17] <arso_> but i wanted to play on linux
[10:17] <arso_> but wine was a pain inthe ass
[10:17] <arso_> pcsx2 is a pain inthe ass
[10:17] <arso_> :-(
[10:17] <Zaire> theres a linux epsxe emu if you can find the bios but I could never get sound on it and videos hard to get sometimes to lol
[10:18] <arso_> thats for psx or 2?
[10:18] <RawSewage_> whats the top audio editor for Linux that professionals use, with lots of features
[10:18] <Zaire> psx unfortunately but I think they had been working on a PS2 emu aswell
[10:18] <RawSewage_> for Kubuntu
[10:19] <Healot> audio editor?
[10:19] <arso_> ic
[10:19] <Healot> hum...
[10:19] <RawSewage_> like CoolEdit Pro
[10:19] <Healot> I use my Mac for that
[10:19] <arso_> audio editor se 9.45
[10:19] <arso_> j/k :P\
[10:19] <RawSewage_> it's open source?
[10:19] <Zaire> mac is evil but I want the OS x86 to see if I can get it working on my new PC for lans lol
[10:20] <RawSewage_> isnt that supposed to run faster on a PC
[10:20] <arso_> is the linux game "americas army" good?
[10:20] <Zaire> yeps but thats cause the G4 and G5 are card processors not socket lol
[10:21] <Healot> RawSewage_: there is kwave - basic KDE wave audio editor
[10:21] <RawSewage_> I dont know if basic will work
[10:21] <RawSewage_> I already have Audacity
[10:21] <Healot> audacity, that one cool application
[10:21] <Zaire> so do I but Im being nice right now lol
[10:23] <zorglu1> arso_: about game, you may try http://tremulous.net it is a modern first shooter
[10:24] <kmh> hi
[10:24] <arso_> zorglu1:  oh thnx, is it any good?
[10:24] <zorglu1> arso_: i find it good as in destressing
[10:24] <arso_> hi
[10:25] <arso_> zorglu1:  i see, does it have online play ?
[10:25] <kmh> I've got a strange problem that drives me nuts. I can't find the kdevelop package in adept manager
[10:25] <zorglu1> arso_: yep, all that explained on the web site. look at the screenshoot they will convince you
[10:25] <zorglu1> arso_: oh and you will like this one, 'trivial to install' :)
[10:25] <kmh> it lists all the kde stuff, says it has 4389 available packages, but it doesn't show me kdevelop
[10:27] <kmh> i use the standard repository url that comes with the installation
[10:27] <arso_> zorglu1:  thnx a lot ;),  wats "trivial to install" ?
[10:27] <zorglu1> tremulous
[10:27] <apokryphos> kmh: you need to add more. Please see the FAQ.
[10:27] <arso_> OMG
[10:28] <arso_> i accidently opened an entire album, at the same time
[10:28] <arso_> lol
[10:28] <arso_> 16 players opened up
[10:28] <Zaire> lol always fun lol
[10:29] <kmh> apokryphos:  I'm sure whether i understand ? Where in the FAQ exactly ?
[10:29] <apokryphos> kmh: the section on adding repositories
[10:30] <kmh> yes
[10:30] <kmh> but which should i add
[10:30] <apokryphos> kmh: the ones mentioned there
[10:30] <apokryphos> specifically: universe and multiverse, for sure.
[10:31] <kmh> and i somewhat can't believe that the standard respository doesn't contain kdevelop
[10:31] <Healot> !info kdevelop
[10:31] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[10:31] <Healot> !find kdevelop
[10:31] <ubotu> Found: kdevelop3, kdevelop3-data, kdevelop3-dev, kdevelop3-doc, kdevelop3-plugins
[10:31] <apokryphos> !info kdevelop3
[10:31] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In repository universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[10:31] <apokryphos> kmh: it's in Universe, which is one of the Ubuntu repositories
[10:31] <Healot> it's not popular... kmh
[10:31] <apokryphos> kmh: see /msg ubotu components
[10:32] <apokryphos> Healot: it's quite popular, but it's a development tool.
[10:32] <Healot> just an assumption, cause it's on the universe section
[10:39] <kmh> apokryphos:  : thanks it worked now
[10:39] <apokryphos> cool
[10:39] <kmh> Healot: dunno, but it looks nice (and i don't no a better ide)
[10:40] <Healot> Kdevelop is nice
[10:40] <Healot> i don't do C/C++ heh
[10:41] <Healot> I can;t believe I am using linux without no scripting or a bit of C/C++?
[10:44] <snikker> when i run a 32-bit app under amd64 system, some 32-bit app, are displayed with very small fonts. how can i fix this?
[10:44] <Healot> only with 32bit app?
[10:45] <snikker> Healot: yes, with but not all 32-bit app...
[10:46] <snikker> Healot: yes, but with not all 32-bit app...
[10:46] <Healot> gtk app specifically, I guess?
[10:47] <snikker> Healot: yes, it should be a gtk app, but i'm not shure... but of coourse is not a qt app...
[10:47] <Healot> oh
[10:47] <Healot> I think there is a solution for that in forum/wiki, not sure though
[10:48] <Healot> firefox?
[10:48] <Healot> it's something about that libpango, pangorc or something...
[10:49] <snikker> Healot: no, firefox's fonts, more or less are right... it's a program for draw a electronic schematics (called eagle)
[10:50] <Healot> yeah, then it is about that pango rc thing
[10:50] <snikker> Healot: what can i do?
[10:50] <Healot> wait a sec... it's something about pango, but to be sure, lookup the ubuntu forum
[10:50] <Healot> i swear i saw something about this problem
[10:51] <snikker> Healot: ok
[10:51] <ubuntu> ULTIMATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:51] <ubuntu> got my cd and stuff
[10:51] <ubuntu> :D
[10:51] <ubuntu> stickers too
[10:51] <Healot> ultimate boot CD?
[10:52] <Healot> my CD has not arrive yet...
[10:52] <ubuntu> Healot: ;)
[10:52] <ubuntu> dun worry they will ccome
[10:52] <Healot> they give sticker huh?
[10:52] <Healot> I am somewhere down the southern hemisphere
[10:52] <ubuntu> Healot: yeah in the packet u get stickers too
[10:52] <ubuntu> :D
[10:53] <Healot> I'll wait for that
[10:54] <ajaycc> Healot: sure
[10:54] <Healot> even though I have downloaded the iso, but i like the official CDs
[10:54] <ajaycc> Healot: me too
[10:54] <ajaycc> Healot: they are COOL the printed cd
[10:55] <khaije1> hi, anyone know in general what it takes to make a linux distro usb-bootable?
[10:55] <Healot> I can print them myself, but it is precious when someone give to you free
[10:55] <Healot> damn small linux, khaije1
[10:55] <ajaycc> Healot: u wont get the same quality
[10:55] <ajaycc> :P
[10:56] <Healot> yeah, that is one thing...
[10:56] <Healot> I don't have industrial grade CD printer
[10:56] <ajaycc> Healot: tre
[10:56] <ajaycc> true
[10:57] <Healot> I don;t have any idea where to get one either :)
[10:58] <os2mac> ok stupid question... how do I tell what ver of kernel I am using?
[10:59] <Healot> uname -r
[10:59] <Healot> not so stupid, but essential it was
[10:59] <khaije1> i know dsl is great, but in general what is required to convert make this possible? is it just a matter of transfering boot control of power on?
[11:00] <Healot> khaije1: i'll pass you th url for usb booting with ubuntu
[11:00] <os2mac> ok next question how do I upgrade it?
[11:01] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick >> khaije1
[11:02] <zorglu1> you know it is a good os when the tutorial to make something that 'complex' is so short and still do the job
[11:02] <Healot> os2mac: hum, to upgrade packages (even kernel), you may need to upgrade the depencies too...
[11:02] <Healot> with "apt-get ugrade"
[11:03] <Eazy-> hi all, I have a script that installs all files in my cache fro UT2004 ....what would I add to the script to tell the console to shutdown/close after the files have been installed?
[11:03] <Eazy-> for*
[11:03] <os2mac> so turn on all the repositories and upgrade?
[11:03] <zorglu1> Eazy-: launch the script via 'source myscriptname.sh'
[11:04] <Healot> os2mac: if it requires you to do so
[11:04] <zorglu1> Eazy-: wait im wrong
[11:04] <Eazy-> k :)
[11:04] <Healot> the best is enabling all sections in a repos
[11:04] <zorglu1> Eazy-: is this window opened only for the install ?
[11:04] <Eazy-> would be nice to just ad a comand at the end in the script
[11:04] <Eazy-> yes
[11:04] <Eazy-> want it to close after its done
[11:04] <zorglu1> Eazy-: even nicer you dont need to add anything to the script
[11:05] <Eazy-> I'm lazy and dont want to clos it by had ;)
[11:05] <zorglu1> Eazy-: the xterm/kconsole/etc have option to luanch a given command as 'shell'
[11:05] <os2mac> I just reinstalled and did the automatic updates when I logged in... I am on a 2.6.15-25-386 kernel and I want to be on a 2.6.17 kernel...
[11:05] <zorglu1> Eazy-: use this option to put your scriptname in it
[11:05] <Healot> the latest is 2.6.15-25 for ubuntu that is
[11:06] <Healot> 2.16.17 source can be download at kernel.org
[11:06] <Healot> requires self-compilation (with somehelp from make-kpkg)
[11:06] <Eazy-> hmm, so how would that line look...i'm a bit of a newbe
[11:06] <zorglu1> Eazy-: for example, with xterm, xterm -e ls will show the ls and close the window when ls is done
[11:06] <os2mac> got directions on how to do that somewhere?
[11:06] <Eazy-> ah
[11:06] <Eazy-> thanx
[11:07] <Healot> damn, I don't even have the url in hand...
[11:07] <Healot> wait a sec
[11:07] <zorglu1> Eazy-: depending on the graphic terminal you are using, the '-e' may change
[11:08] <Healot> !make-kpkg
[11:08] <ubotu> I know nothing about make-kpkg
[11:08] <Healot> !info make-kpkg
[11:08] <ubotu> Package make-kpkg does not exist in dapper
[11:09] <Healot> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/forum/software/CustomKernel?highlight=%28kernel%29
[11:09] <Eazy-> TerminalOptions=\s--close
[11:09] <Healot> !info kernel-package
[11:09] <ubotu> kernel-package: A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian packages.. In repository main, is optional. Version 9.001ubuntu15 (dapper), package size 353 kB, installed size 1316 kB
[11:10] <Healot> !info fakeroot
[11:10] <ubotu> fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In repository main, is optional. Version 1.5.6ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 376 kB
[11:10] <Eazy-> added that in my desktop shortcut
[11:10] <Eazy-> thanx for your help anyway zorglu1 :)
[11:14] <andy__> hi
[11:25] <volker> moin
[11:26] <volker> kann mir mal jemand kurz sagen wie ich in einer Datei alle leerzeichen "lschen" kann?
[11:26] <volker> also ich hab in einer Datei ne liste mit ganz vielen 1 und 0 dazwischen immer ein Leerzeichen. Wie bekomm ich das weg?
[11:27] <volker> hi
[11:28] <zorglu1> legout: #kubuntu-de is likely better to answer in german :)
[11:28] <legout> zorglu1: UPPS ;
[11:28] <legout> ;)
[11:31] <fek> hey, is there no kuickshow pacakge anymore in dapper? :(
[11:34] <arso_> guys
[11:35] <arso_> is there a way
[11:35] <arso_> to run windows and linux at the same time?
[11:35] <fek> with a vmware, yes
[11:36] <fek> arso_: your question is like, could a car drive forwards and backwards at the same time ;)
[11:36] <Eazy-> can you play games with vmware?
[11:36] <arso_>   lol, wats vmware
[11:36] <fek> arso_: google is your friend
[11:37] <fek> Eazy-: now
[11:37] <fek> -w
[11:37] <Eazy-> k
[11:37] <zorglu1> arso_: you can run xen too (similar to vmware but free) or even qemu (a emulator allowing you to run window underlinux)
[11:38] <zorglu1> !qemu
[11:38] <Eazy-> would be cool to play dx-games in linux....without cedega
[11:38] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[11:39] <arso_> oh vmware isnt free?
[11:39] <arso_> so which is better xen or qemu
[11:39] <arso_> and wont they be slow if theyre both running
[11:40] <fek> no, qemu can do magic to your hardware and let it perfoms iet double better
[11:40] <arso_> lol cool
[11:40] <arso_> i'll get that then?
[11:41] <arso_> so then why do people use wine and cedega and stuff
[11:41] <zorglu1> well it is more like twice slower :)
[11:41] <zorglu1> slower than the native/original speed
[11:41] <Chousuke> arso_: wine and cedega are a lot faster.
[11:41] <fek> !kuickshow
[11:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about kuickshow
[11:41] <fek> !dapper
[11:41] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[11:42] <Chousuke> arso_: and virtualisation doesn't support 3d acceleration as far as I know.
[11:42] <zorglu1> zen is running at native speed. but it isnt yep mature
[11:42] <arso_> omg :S
[11:42] <Chousuke> xen is quite close to native speed though, but no 3d.
[11:42] <fek> does anybody know, where i get kuickshow for dapper?
[11:42] <arso_> anything with 3d?
[11:42] <fek> arso_: xwine
[11:42] <Chousuke> arso_: no.
[11:43] <fek> or winex?
[11:43] <fek> don't know
[11:43] <Chousuke> wine does do 3d.
[11:43] <Chousuke> but it doesn't always work
[11:43] <fek> Chousuke: sure, a special wine version supports direct
[11:43] <fek> x
[11:43] <Chousuke> fek: regular wine does too
[11:44] <arso_> but wine was a pain in the ass when i tried it
[11:44] <Chousuke> but Cedega does it a bit betterm since it's especially focused on game support.
[11:44] <fek> arso_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_%28software%29
[11:44] <arso_> i tried 2 games and they both didnt work
[11:44] <arso_> cedega isnt free -(
[11:44] <Chousuke> arso_: Games won't work under virtual machines.
[11:44] <fek> only the death is for free
[11:44] <Chousuke> because you don't have 3d hardware acceleration
[11:45] <Chousuke> arso_: did you try the newest wine?
[11:45] <Chousuke> what games?
[11:45] <arso_> counter strike and gunbound
[11:46] <arso_> fek:  the death?
[11:46] <Chousuke> counter strike should work
[11:46] <Eazy-> fek: http://www.elijahlofgren.com/linux/ubuntu/#install-kuickshow
[11:46] <Chousuke> arso_: http://winehq.org/ check the apps database
[11:46] <Chousuke> and download the newest version
[11:47] <arso_> i think i did
[11:47] <arso_> coz i got it 2 days ago
[11:47] <arso_> thru that apt get thing
[11:47] <fek> Eazy-: cool, thanks dude
[11:47] <Eazy-> google :P
[11:47] <Eazy-> np
[11:47] <arso_> so wats "the death"
[11:48] <fek> Eazy-: i did. but found nothing :(
[11:48] <Chousuke> arso_: apt doesn't necessarily have the newest version
[11:49] <Chousuke> try "dpkg -l wine"
[11:49] <arso_> okay
[11:50] <arso_> umm i got 0.9.16
[11:53] <os2mac> For anyone who is interested I got the Broadcom Nic to work on my Dell....
[11:54] <os2mac> you cannot use bcm43xx with the kernel currently in Kubuntu.
[11:55] <Chousuke> arso_: okay. that's the newest.
[11:56] <os2mac> you must blacklist the bcm43xx driver and use ndiswrapper.
[11:56] <arso_> sat wat/??
[11:57] <iNiku> os2mac: that's not really true, a lot of people hve the bcm43xx driver working in (k)ubuntu
[11:58] <jenton> does anyone know what the ".giFT" directory in my home dir is for?
[11:58] <os2mac> on a Dell?
[11:58] <iNiku> dunno what hardware, other than BCM43xx chipsets
[11:58] <khaije1> jenton: gift is gnu internet file transfer, it's used by p2p apps
[11:58] <os2mac> for some reason I can't get around the Access Point: invalid error in iwconfig unless I upgrade the kernel.
[11:59] <khaije1> do you have apollon install maybe?
[11:59] <iNiku> could be something to do with your hardware specifically, I guess
[11:59] <iNiku> I don't have a BCM chipset to play with but I know a bunch of people have the bcm43xx driver working
[11:59] <gatekeeper> os2mac, did you recompile the kernel?
[12:00] <os2mac> well I will say this... lspci reports it as a BCM4309 and when I use bcm43xx it's trying to install a 4303 driver
[12:00] <os2mac> and no I did not.
[12:01] <os2mac> I am not Linux savy enough to do that yet.
[12:01] <arso_> whycant linux just read exe's normally :'(
[12:02] <Lynoure> arso_: why cannot windows just install .debs :)
[12:02] <gatekeeper> os2mac, there is a howto in the linux forums I thought may you had used that
[12:02] <arso_> lol
[12:03] <gatekeeper> os2mac, in the ubuntu forums I ment to say
[12:03] <os2mac> wasn't very helpful to me....
[12:05] <gatekeeper> ohh well at least you are up and running and you can pass the knowledge onto others with the same problem :-)
[12:05] <gatekeeper> arso_, because it's linux not windows :-)
[12:06] <os2mac> does anyone have a tick on when Kubuntu is going to upgrade to 2.6.17?
[12:07] <arso_> linux is perfect, just the damn gaming problem
[12:08] <gatekeeper> arso_, you having problems with wine and games?
[12:08] <arso_> gatekeeper:  ya
[12:08] <arso_> gatekeeper:  tried running gunbound and counter-strike, both didnt work :'(
[12:08] <gatekeeper> arso_, have you got windows?
[12:08] <khaije1> you could try cedega
[12:10] <arso_> gatekeeper:  yes, i am dual booting
[12:10] <arso_> i dont wanna pay for cedega
[12:12] <gatekeeper> arso_, I would use windows for gaming and linux for everything else, you could consider using something Xen for windows inside linux then you have both OS's at your finger tips
[12:14] <Danni> Hello there
[12:14] <Danni> is anyone around to help me get amarok working?
[12:14] <gatekeeper> Danni, what is the problem with it?
[12:14] <omeow> Danni: What's wrong?
[12:15] <Danni> it's never worked
[12:15] <omeow> Not enough info.
[12:15] <Danni> (i know)
[12:15] <omeow> What's never worked? The program? Playback of files? What? :)
[12:15] <Danni> The xine engine can't initialise any audio-drivers
[12:15] <Danni> the playback of files
[12:15] <jenton> Have you any other sound?
[12:15] <omeow> You've installed xine-extracodecs?
[12:15] <Danni> Yup
[12:15] <Danni> to both
[12:16] <jenton> I got this problem after upgrading - xine can't init any audio drivers
[12:16] <Danni> (though it was libxine-extracodecs)
[12:16] <omeow> Possible. :)
[12:16] <jenton> what sound system are you using? Arts? esd?
[12:17] <Danni> how can I check that again?
[12:17] <omeow> Go into settings and in Engine, there's Output plugin
[12:18] <omeow> (Set to autodetect for me and most probably the default)
[12:18] <jenton> you won't be able to get to that omeow, because when it can't init, it goes back to the "void" driver
[12:18] <Danni> I can't get the settings to show up
[12:18] <omeow> Oh
[12:18] <omeow> Didn't know that. I'll shut up now.
[12:18] <Danni> It's my own fault for reformatting yesterday :)
[12:19] <jenton> I had to modify the .kde/share/apps/amarok/xine-config by hand - but I knew I wanted esd
[12:19] <Danni> I'll try that
[12:20] <valdis> is any body how can help with archivator problems
[12:20] <gatekeeper> Danni, xine broken?
[12:20] <Danni> yup
[12:20] <Danni> wasn't before the reformat
[12:20] <gatekeeper> how about a reinstall
[12:20] <jenton> maybe this is a similar problem? my settings were set to arts, but after changing to esd, amarok wouldn't start, because i'd disabled arts
[12:20] <arso_>  hey even i cant play stuff
[12:20] <Danni> done that twice
[12:21] <arso_> on amarok and kmplayer
[12:21] <arso_> but i am using vlc
[12:21] <jenton> bring on Phonon!
[12:23] <jenton> Danni: sorry it was .kde/share/config/amarokrc
[12:23] <Danni> thanks
[12:23] <Danni> (I was wondering why it was blank :P)
[12:24] <Danni> it's worked!
[12:24] <Danni> Thank you :)
[12:25] <arso_>  tell me something to download from adept :D, i am bored, any fun game or something
[12:25] <khaije1> jenton: any idea how far along phonon is?
[12:25] <jenton> what did you change it from/to? Maybe a bug to report here....
[12:25] <Danni> humm
[12:25] <Danni> ok, it's not
[12:25] <gatekeeper> excellent :-)
[12:25] <Danni> thought it was
[12:25] <valdis> who can say what i mast do to unrar file who is protect with password
[12:25] <Danni> I changed it from void-engine to xine-engine
[12:26] <jenton> khaije: wish I knew! just a very interested onlooker, not a dev...
[12:26] <Danni> ok, same problem again
[12:27] <khaije1> jenton: same here, i can't wait
[12:27] <jenton> Danni: mine has [Xine-Engine]  then Output Plugin=esd
[12:27] <Danni> ok
[12:28] <Danni> same error message
[12:28] <gatekeeper> Danni, jenton I think the problem may well be the xine-engine
[12:29] <Danni> Yup
[12:29] <Danni> anyone know an alternate engine that works with 1,4?
[12:29] <jenton> does Kaffeine work ( are you using the xine engine in it too?)
[12:29] <Danni> not tried it yet
[12:30] <Danni> Kaffeine doesn't work
[12:31] <Danni> audio-drivers failed
[12:31] <Danni> I'm using xine for it as well
[12:31] <gatekeeper> you have tried reinstalling xine or amaroK or both?
[12:31] <Danni> both
[12:32] <arso_> ........:(
[12:32] <Danni> though I could do it again, I suppose :P
[12:33] <jenton> Danni: did you EasyUbuntu your system to install the extra codecs?
[12:33] <Danni> No
[12:33] <Danni> Automatix
[12:33] <Danni> but I've since uninstalled and reinstalled them
[12:35] <jenton> does kaffeine start? under Settings there's a "xine engine parameters" item...
[12:35] <Danni> yes
[12:37] <jenton> in the audio section -what's in the "driver
[12:37] <jenton> dropdown?
[12:37] <Danni> auto
[12:37] <Danni> auto, alsa, oss, esd, file, none
[12:38] <Danni> when I try to change it I get this:
[12:38] <Danni> Error: Can't init new Audio Driver esd - using auto!
[12:38] <jenton> does alsa work?
[12:38] <Danni> no
[12:38] <Danni> same message for alsa
[12:41] <jenton> go to system settings, sound
[12:41] <jenton> from the K menu
[12:41] <Danni> ok
[12:41] <Danni> I'm there
[12:42] <jenton> under "sound sytem" is enable the sound system ticked?
[12:42] <Danni> yes
[12:42] <jenton> what audio device is selected on the "hardware" tab?
[12:43] <Danni> autodetect
[12:43] <Danni> should I change it?
[12:44] <jenton> I out of ideas, sorry. you could try temporarily disabling the sound system, and trying kaffeine again with it disabled, but I'm lost
[12:45] <gatekeeper> Danni, how did you reinstall using apt-get?
[12:45] <Danni> that worked :)
[12:46] <Danni> I used synaptic
[12:46] <jenton> there's no arts output plugin for xine (that I can see in Kaffeine) - so maybe arts had your sound card locked and it doesn't support hardware mixers?
[12:47] <Danni> maybe
[12:47] <gatekeeper> so where are you now? can you open settings / engine in amaroK?
[12:47] <Danni> yup
[12:47] <Danni> I can play music and everything
[12:47] <jenton> but now you have no system "dings"
[12:47] <Danni> yup
[12:49] <Danni> it used to mix fine- I wonder what's different now?
[12:50] <gatekeeper> amaroK working?
[12:50] <jenton> no idea - but if it's using ALSA there may be some config you can change (I believe)....but that would be all new to me
[12:51] <Danni> amarok working, no dings
[12:57] <Kabal> some one here that knows kicker probs?
[12:57] <Kabal> my kicker won't refresh at times and crashes alot..
[12:59] <Kabal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17079
[01:00] <Kabal> Anybody that can identify this?
[01:02] <arso_> hmm nacho libre is  cool
[01:03] <zorglu1> Kabal: #kde or #kde-devel may be more helpfull on this one
[01:04] <zorglu1> arso_: what is nacho libre ?
[01:04] <arso_> zorglu1:  new movie :P
[01:05] <Kabal> zorglu1: Thanx will try that :)
[01:05] <zorglu1> cool :)
[01:16] <ismael_> hello
[01:33] <spike> hi there
[01:33] <spike> I thought ubuntu and kubuntu someway shared the installed, but I cant find LVM options in kubuntu... and they were there in ubuntu breezy... actually havent tried ubuntu dapper
[01:33] <spike> so, is there any chance to have the system installed on LVM?
[01:36] <kasina> spike: Have you tried Kubuntu yet
[01:36] <kasina> ?
[01:36] <spike> eh, that's what I'm saying
[01:36] <kasina> spike: Its nice to meet you here
[01:36] <spike> I just got the kubuntu dapper cd, and LVM isnt an option in the installation process
[01:36] <spike> which sux *a lot*
[01:37] <kasina> Spike: I cant talk much - have to live. We can talk later.
[01:37] <spike> sure, take care, bye
[01:41] <spike> :...( the installation is incredibly rubbish
[01:42] <pietro_> hi all
[01:43] <bimberi> spike: you have the Live/Install CD?  Not many options with it's install.  The alternate CD is the one for those
[01:43] <pietro_> i need help for my soundcard...
[01:44] <pietro_> kubuntu doesn't recognize it
[01:44] <pietro_> i've done "lspci -v"
[01:44] <spike> bimberi: mmmh, k, I'll fetch that then
[01:45] <bimberi> bleh -  s/it's/its/
[01:45] <pietro_> and it's an Esoniq AudioPCI-97
[01:46] <pietro_> but when i did aadebug it says: "module config file does not exist"
[01:46] <zorglu1> pietro_: http://www.linuxquestions.org/hcl/showproduct.php?product=2960&cat=all
[01:47] <zorglu1> doesnt provide the answer. just say it is possible :)
[01:47] <pietro_> yes but how to make sound play?
[01:48] <zorglu1> no idea
[01:48] <zorglu1> lsmod doesnt show it ?
[01:48] <pietro_> i installed kubuntu yesterday so i'm a newbye
[01:48] <pietro_> let me try
[01:49] <grothesk> Hi there!
[01:49] <zorglu1> ok the process would be (i) check for kernel support, (ii) check the module is loaded, (iii) check for alsa support, (iv) check for sound volume )
[01:49] <grothesk> My wifi network keeps 'forgetting' my WEP keys.
[01:49] <grothesk> I have to execute 'iwconfig ra0 key MEYKEY' after every boot.
[01:50] <pietro_> ok i'll work on it
[01:50] <grothesk> How can I set it up to automatically connect after boot?
[01:50] <zorglu1> grothesk: you may put that in your /etc/profile
[01:50] <zorglu1> or in another script in init.d
[01:50] <zorglu1> the second will likely be cleaner
[01:51] <zorglu1> but i dunno in which script put it
[01:51] <Ourobouros> hi!
[01:56] <arso_> ummguys
[01:56] <arso_> i downloaded the game
[01:56] <arso_> tremulous
[01:56] <arso_> its a .run file
[01:56] <arso_> how do i install that?
[01:56] <sensei> chmod +x file.run && ./file.run
[01:57] <arso_> sensei:  hi
[01:57] <arso_> wow thnx
[01:57] <sensei> hai
[01:57] <arso_> :D
[01:59] <arso_> so anyone here plays that game?
[02:00] <arso_> hey sensei
[02:00] <arso_> the games display is messed up
[02:01] <omeow> Perhaps you could share which game you're talking about.
[02:01] <omeow> Perhaps you could also say what part of the display is messed up.
[02:03] <arso_> tremulous
[02:03] <arso_> some guy recommended it earlier
[02:03] <arso_> the display is fine
[02:03] <arso_> but its showing no servers on the internet
[02:04] <omeow> It's highly likely that nobody is running a server.
[02:04] <arso_> hmm why did he recommend it
[02:04] <monomaniacpat> which file on the hdd is the usplash? I want to install kubuntu, but keep the ubuntu usplash
[02:04] <arso_> and i waited 2 hours for the download to finsih
[02:04] <omeow> Because maybe he liked the game?
[02:04] <arso_> lol how did he play it, if no one runs server
[02:05] <sensei> He set one up himself and invited a friend?
[02:06] <omeow> *looks at some tremulous screenshots and then burts into a laugh*
[02:06] <omeow> http://www.tremulous.net/screenshot.php?id=128
[02:06] <omeow> His ears. :D
[02:07] <apokryphos> heh
[02:07] <sensei> hahah
[02:07] <RawSewage> I dont get it
[02:07] <monomaniacpat> which file on the hdd is the usplash? I want to install kubuntu, but keep the ubuntu usplash
[02:08] <emonkey> monomaniacpat, sudo update-alternatives config usplash-artwork.so
[02:08] <omeow> anyway arso_: Try asking in #tremulous irc.quakenet.org maybe they can help you run a server or perhaps want to play a few games with you.
[02:08] <sensei> hahah can't stop laughing at them ears
[02:09] <monomaniacpat> emonkey: There is only 1 program which provides usplash-artwork.so (newline) (/usr/lib/usplash/usplash-default.so). Nothing to configure.
[02:12] <Jack1> hi whenever i start kontact it says kontact is already running on usr-name ( my previous name that is now changed) :force access, it finally then starts i just want to make this popup disappear..anyone help?
[02:12] <omeow> It's pretty cool that quite a few open source games are being made with the quake 3 engine. Even though most of the stuff is still in eary err early ;) stages they do seem to be making progress.
[02:13] <sensei> omeow: ET is a brilliant example of that progress
[02:13] <sensei> Highly developed and playable game based on Q3
[02:14] <Jack1> sensei hi
[02:14] <sensei> Hi
[02:15] <Jack1> sensei when i start kontact it says it is already running on fluffz but this is by far renamed to another...so it always asks me if i wanna force access or cancel  then it starts, can i make this message disappear?
[02:16] <sensei> Don't know.. I'm in windows now, so I can't look at it either
[02:16] <sensei> But see if there's some unix sockets lying around in /tmp or in your ~/.kde dir or something.. And see with ps -axu or dcop if there's a kontact process already running
[02:17] <sensei> If it is, send it 15 and wait for a second or two, if it's still there, send 9
[02:17] <Jack1> sensei what means send it 15 o 9?
[02:18] <sensei> kill -15 pidofkontact
[02:18] <sensei> The pid is the number in the first column of ps axu
[02:20] <MetaMorfoziS> who is #ubuntu 's op?
[02:21] <h3sp4wn> MetaMorfoziS: do !ops in #ubuntu+1 is probably the easiest way to find out
[02:21] <sensei> Or /msg chanserv access #ubuntu list
[02:22] <mueko> is there a german channel?
[02:22] <h3sp4wn> !de
[02:22] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[02:22] <mueko> thanks
[02:24] <Jack1> ah ok sensei
[02:24] <MetaMorfoziS> h3sp4wn: i found #ubuntu-ops
[02:24] <Jack1> for what kind of unix socket i should look ? how do i new i got the right one?
[02:25] <sensei> Jack1: Start with the ps axu thing
[02:26] <sensei> Btw, does this happen even after a reboot?
[02:27] <ubuntu> i have a question about the install process for dapper drake
[02:28] <ubuntu> will it install a bootloader that will detect my windows when its  done installing?
[02:28] <sensei> Yes
[02:28] <ubuntu> another question, why no reiserfs option?
[02:29] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: If you use the alternate iso then you can install to reiserfs
[02:29] <ubuntu> oh, well i used the desktop ISO
[02:29] <ubuntu> im new to linux this will be my first distro
[02:29] <Jack1> hi how can i add a server to the list in xchat?
[02:30] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu: ext3 handles unclean shutdowns and power cuts better than reiserfs
[02:30] <ubuntu> do i need to manually add repositories to apt to get things that arent open source?
[02:30] <sensei> Yes
[02:30] <ubuntu> when i get back from my reboot can you please direct me on how to do so?
[02:31] <pietro_> stuck again... i'm following instructions here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=.&chip=ES1371%2C+ES1372%2C+ES1373%2C+CT5880+%28ES1373%29&module=ens1371
[02:31] <sensei> ubuntu: Someone might, or one of the 10000000 sites available through google that describes this
[02:31] <pietro_> i type cp/donwloads/alsa-*.
[02:31] <Jack1> how can i add eg wikkedwire to my serverslist in xchat??
[02:32] <pietro_> and it display an error
[02:32] <sensei> pietro_: Mind the whitespace
[02:33] <pietro_> sorry...i'm new...i don't understand...did i break a rule?
[02:33] <sensei> cp is the command and /down... is the first argument (second code wise) and . is the second argument
[02:34] <sensei> cp /downloads/alsa-* .
[02:34] <sensei> See the whitespaces?
[02:34] <pietro_> uhm right after *
[02:34] <sensei> And after cp
[02:34] <easynintendo> im back sensei, can you help me add those repositories?
[02:35] <sensei> easynintendo: Give google a try first.. come back in 5 mins if you haven't found it
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> !repos
[02:35] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:36] <Jack1> how can i add eg wikkedwire to my serverslist in xchat??
[02:36] <pietro_> still blocked: "cp  /downloads/alsa-*  ." what's wrong?
[02:37] <sensei> pietro_: The error message tells you what's wrong
[02:37] <sensei> I can't help you much without it, although I strongly suspect that you'll need sudo to write in /usr/src
[02:37] <sensei> Jack1: Seriously dude.. http://www.google.com/search?hs=XDN&hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=add+server+xchat&btnG=Search
[02:37] <pietro_> it says no file or directory...
[02:37] <sensei> First hit
[02:38] <pietro_> so: sudo cp  /downloads/alsa-*  .?
[02:38] <sensei> pietro_: Then you didn't download the alsa package to the /downloads dir
[02:38] <easynintendo> i seem to be having a problem
[02:38] <Tommy2k4> !paste
[02:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:38] <easynintendo> its asking for a root password
[02:38] <easynintendo> and i dont know it
[02:38] <h3sp4wn> Just put in your own
[02:38] <easynintendo> its denied as invalid
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> sudo -i (if you need to be root)
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> with your own password
[02:39] <easynintendo> oh
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> !sudo
[02:39] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:39] <pietro_> installed kubuntu yesterday... be patient but how i download them?
[02:39] <Jack1> sensei ok i admit that was stupid of me ..anyway
[02:40] <easynintendo> i cant seem to find apt
[02:40] <sensei> Jack1: Stupid.. lazy, you name it :)
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: What exactly are you trying to do ?
[02:41] <pietro_> i'm following the instructions on this url to get my soundcard work
[02:41] <pietro_> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Ensoniq&card=.&chip=ES1371%2C+ES1372%2C+ES1373%2C+CT5880+%28ES1373%29&module=ens1371#Inst
[02:41] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: You shouldn't have to do that with kubuntu and trying to do so will break things
[02:41] <pietro_> !
[02:42] <easynintendo> i still dont understand how to install software or add repositories sensei
[02:42] <pietro_> ok i'll say what i tried before
[02:42] <easynintendo> i havent found anything that i actually understand
[02:42] <easynintendo> im completely new to linux
[02:42] <sensei> easynintendo: Then you've missed something along the way, maybe a beginners guide to Linux is a good way to start?
[02:43] <sensei> There's hundreds of them
[02:43] <easynintendo> ....
[02:43] <easynintendo> its going to take me forever to figure this out
[02:43] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: i type aplay -l -> no soundcard found
[02:43] <easynintendo> i cant even install programs
[02:43] <sensei> Gotta crawl before you walk, people can't carry you around wherever you're going all your life
[02:44] <easynintendo> ....
[02:44] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, package manager or from a website?
[02:44] <easynintendo> but i have no programs
[02:44] <easynintendo> in english?
[02:44] <easynintendo> im new to this :(
[02:44] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, that was english
[02:44] <easynintendo> i have no idea what a package manager is
[02:44] <easynintendo> so i cant answer your question
[02:45] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: then lspci -v -> it says that is an ensoniq es1371
[02:45] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: PCI or isa ?
[02:45] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, click the K on the lower left, go to system, then click adept
[02:45] <easynintendo> i dont see adept
[02:45] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: audioPCI-97
[02:45] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, from there you can search for things like firefox, and install them, but you need to find out using the internet what you want to get first.
[02:46] <easynintendo> i dont see adept
[02:46] <easynintendo> its not there
[02:46] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, what DO you see in there?!
[02:46] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: then i found the module name: snd-ens1371
[02:46] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: just run sudo modprobe es1371
[02:47] <easynintendo> graphics internet multimedia office system utilities add/remove programs find files/folders help system settings
[02:47] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: i'll try
[02:47] <easynintendo> ok i clicked on add/remove programs
[02:47] <easynintendo> and something came up
[02:47] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, ugh, i said click system
[02:48] <easynintendo> oh, sorry i didnt see
[02:48] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, thats another adept. its just nicer looking
[02:48] <easynintendo> ok adept manager opened after i typed my password
[02:48] <fek> i dist-upgraded yesterday from breezy to dapper. when i print a page now i'll get the ps in raw on the paper :/
[02:49] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: done but not es1371, snd-ens1371... and now?
[02:49] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, since your a noob, use the one you found on your own, its easier to use and a lot easier for you to remember where to find, since you found it on your own
[02:50] <easynintendo> ok but everything in this is already checked
[02:50] <KaiHanari> in the add/remove progams one, just click the application type on the left, and find applications in the right
[02:50] <easynintendo> which means its installed right?
[02:50] <easynintendo> everything in all the sections
[02:50] <easynintendo> is already checked
[02:51] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, you have to choose in the drop down menu at the top (says KDE), any suite, and check the two boxes at the right hand top
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: run alsamixer
[02:51] <KaiHanari> then you will get access to all software
[02:51] <easynintendo> ok
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: and turn the volume up
[02:52] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: alsamixer from the console? or in the desktop?  sry... noob
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: console
[02:52] <easynintendo> ok i did that and only a couple of unchecked things showed up in each of the categories
[02:52] <easynintendo> all of the stuff in internet is already checked
[02:52] <easynintendo> and theres no firefox or anything
[02:53] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[02:54] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, oh right, forgot one step, if you have any changes there click the next button and apply them
[02:54] <KaiHanari> and just a sec
[02:54] <easynintendo> um
[02:54] <easynintendo> ok
[02:55] <easynintendo> im sorry if im asking dumb questions
[02:55] <easynintendo> but ive only ever used windows and i barely know how to run that
[02:55] <easynintendo> but i got tired of all the spyware and it crashing all the time
[02:55] <easynintendo> and i dont really play games
[02:55] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, your going to need to edit a file.... go to K -> run command ->  paste in this: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:55] <easynintendo> so someone told me to give this a try
[02:55] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, er wait
[02:55] <easynintendo> ?
[02:55] <easynintendo> ok
[02:56] <KaiHanari> im trying to come up with an easy way to do this, but that didnt work :/
[02:56] <easynintendo> ok
[02:56] <easynintendo> im sorry if im too new at this :(
[02:57] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, no no, everyones like this at least once.
[02:57] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, K -> system -> konsole
[02:57] <KaiHanari> and paste in kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list        into the black terminal it opens
[02:57] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: no idea?
[02:57] <easynintendo> ok it brought up some window
[02:57] <easynintendo> that i can type in
[02:58] <KaiHanari> easynintendo,  and paste in      kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list        into the black terminal it opens
[02:58] <easynintendo> ok i did that
[02:58] <easynintendo> and something came up
[02:58] <KaiHanari> ok just a sec
[02:58] <easynintendo> its a bunch of text that might as well be chinese
[02:58] <easynintendo> cuz i dont understand it
[02:59] <rdale> I'm using Kate with dapper/KDE 3.5.3, and the rhtml syntax highlighting seems to be missing. Anyone know how I find out what happened to it?
[02:59] <sensei> easynintendo: I'm not trying to be arrogant or something, but I'd like to recommend you to read one or several of the urls listed at: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=beginners+guide+to+linux&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[02:59] <sensei> It will save both you and us a lot of time, and you'll be able to solve a lot of problems on your own.
[02:59] <Jack1> guys u knwo where the kwallet is stored? i asks me for a passwd but i havent configured kwallet so far? this is weird?
[03:00] <easynintendo> i can barely work windows
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: I could possibly give you a hacked up way to do it but crimsun if he is about can probably help you alot better than me if he is around / awake
[03:00] <easynintendo> how am i going to be able to do this on my own?
[03:00] <sensei> easynintendo: That's why you should read those articles
[03:00] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, ok now, any line that starts with #deb   or #deb-src, remove the #
[03:00] <sensei> Actually, not being used to windows is an advantage in cases such as these
[03:00] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, easy enough, eh?
[03:01] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, but any line with two ##s, leave alone
[03:01] <easynintendo> ok
[03:01] <easynintendo> ok they are all gone
[03:02] <Tommy2k4> kmess freezes as soon as i sign in :(
[03:02] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, now click file -> save and then exit the editor
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> pietro_: You could try the very bottom method on this forum post http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181619&highlight=es1371+dapper
[03:02] <easynintendo> ok its closed
[03:03] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, now in that black thinger
[03:03] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, type:   sudo apt-get update
[03:03] <KaiHanari> it will do a ton of stuff
[03:03] <easynintendo> a bunch of text is going onto the screen
[03:03] <easynintendo> and its downloading stuff
[03:03] <KaiHanari> when its done, unless it says "error <description>, close the terminal it was all in
[03:04] <easynintendo> can i close it with the X like in windows or do i have to do something else?
[03:04] <KaiHanari> yea you can do that, once the downloading is done
[03:04] <adamant1988> can someone help me install this color theme?
[03:05] <easynintendo> ok its done and i closed the thing
[03:05] <adamant1988> I followed the instructions, but I don't have a kdisplay folder...
[03:05] <pietro_> h3sp4wn: ok thank you very much for your help...i'll try
[03:05] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, now you can go back to add/remove programs and firefox and things will be there
[03:05] <easynintendo> ok
[03:06] <easynintendo> i clicked on it and its just sitting there with a spinning hourglass
[03:06] <easynintendo> shouldnt it load fast like the other times?
[03:06] <easynintendo> now it didnt even load
[03:06] <easynintendo> it just went away
[03:06] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, sometimes things do that, just click it again
[03:06] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, though you might need to log out then back in, the little password popup somtimes temporarily breaks like that
[03:06] <easynintendo> firefox isnt in the internet section still
[03:06] <Firebird8> how do u make startup programs?
[03:06] <easynintendo> it only added a couple of new things from before
[03:07] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, you havent chosen any suite at the top have you?
[03:07] <KaiHanari> where it says "kde"
[03:07] <easynintendo> it says KDE
[03:07] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, click it, choose any suite, and the two checkboxes to the right of it
[03:07] <easynintendo> ok now it says any suite and theres a ton of stuff
[03:08] <easynintendo> what all do i need on this?
[03:08] <easynintendo> cuz i dont recognize anything but like firefox
[03:08] <BKaj> easynintendo: sometimes a reboot works ..that's what i had to do for FF to show up in the K-Menu..don't ask me why :)
[03:08] <sensei> Shouldn't a simple logout have sufficed?
[03:08] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, thats where the internet comes in, thats the fun of linux. figuring out what stuff does.
[03:09] <easynintendo> but i can barely figure out how to turn my computer on and use the keyboard and mouse :(
[03:09] <easynintendo> im super new at all this stuff
[03:09] <easynintendo> i got my computer for my birthday in february
[03:09] <easynintendo> an thats the first time i ever used one
[03:10] <BKaj> did you install linux , easynintendo? or was it already on the the 'puter?
[03:10] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, well, your on IRC, thats a good start. usually if you shout "whats an app that i can use to do <insert something to do here>"  ... someone will tell you what to look for
[03:10] <easynintendo> it had windows xp but it got tons of spyware and kept crashing so my friend told me to get this
[03:10] <flashpc> could someone help me install mplayer on dapper drake? i don't see it in my repository
[03:10] <easynintendo> an it was easy to install i just clicked on install on the desktop from the cd
[03:10] <easynintendo> an it did the rest all i did was hit next an enter my passwords an stuff
[03:11] <Firebird8> does placing scripts in the ~/.kde/Autostart folder make the scripts run everytime u boot?
[03:11] <easynintendo> oh
[03:11] <Jack1> guys does anybody know if there will be some patch that would it allow to play oggs in the ipod nano? who is into this?
[03:11] <easynintendo> well i dont really know what a computer can do other than surf the net
[03:11] <easynintendo> im installing firefox right now
[03:11] <KaiHanari> Jack1, your probably better off asking that on the forums, more people, someones bound to know
[03:11] <easynintendo> cause i used that on windows
[03:12] <Jack1> right maybe
[03:12] <|lostbyte|> Hi guys :P
[03:12] <flashpc> i have kmplayer installed. is that equivalent to mplayer?
[03:12] <Rogue> Hello everyone
[03:12] <BKaj> yeah flashpc
[03:12] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, all you have to remember with a computer, especially linux, is dont be afraid to click buttons. figure out what they do.
[03:12] <KaiHanari> learn by screwing stuff up
[03:13] <easynintendo> but wont i mess it up?
[03:13] <BKaj> it's the kde version
[03:13] <easynintendo> :(
[03:13] <|lostbyte|> flashpc, yes..
[03:13] <sensei> easynintendo: If you're afraid, google on it first ;)
[03:13] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, thats the biggest fear anyone has. but if you dont worry about it, it probably wont be messed up. and with linux, theres always a realatively easy way to fix it
[03:13] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, Your soo right :P
[03:14] <easynintendo> o
[03:14] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, that is usually just uninstalling it with the add/remove , then installing it again
[03:14] <BKaj> how is it installed...it won't launch on my pc:(
[03:14] <easynintendo> well what all can a computer do other than like listen to music an surf the net?
[03:14] <KaiHanari> if its more complicated, someone here will help
[03:14] <flashpc> hrm, kmplayer gives me a "player xine not running" error when i try to play a qtl file
[03:14] <flashpc> what is that?
[03:14] <Rogue> So is there anyway to set up a startup folder in Kubuntu like windows has that starts programs automaticly when you log in?
[03:15] <sensei> easynintendo: Control traffic lights, run oil tankers, control electricity for whole cities, drive cars, manufacture cars, conrol ariliners.. you name it
[03:15] <easynintendo> omg really?
[03:15] <sensei> Yes, really
[03:15] <BKaj> |lostbyte|: I can't get kmplayer to work , even tho it's there in the Konq file ?
[03:15] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, does mplayer work on the konq file ?
[03:15] <easynintendo> um is it a good idea to click this thing by the clock that says 54 updates available?
[03:15] <flashpc> so how would i make kmplayer my default media application (associate it with all my media filetypes)?
[03:16] <easynintendo> an will it update it for me?
[03:16] <sensei> Yes
[03:16] <|lostbyte|> flashpc, konqueror > options > file association :P
[03:16] <|lostbyte|> Arg !
[03:16] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, all that fun stuff sensei just mentioned is all covered under the engineering program im doing starting in the fall, its really fun. all you have to do to get into making computers do real world stuff is have no fear, and lots of time to read how to do it
[03:16] <easynintendo> cool
[03:16] <easynintendo> can a computer like
[03:17] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, updates in linux are usually good things. once you have the add/remove thing done and exited, yes, update.
[03:17] <easynintendo> become self aware like in terminator?
[03:17] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, not yet.
[03:17] <easynintendo> o
[03:17] <easynintendo> what can MY computer do?
[03:17] <h3sp4wn> Rogue: .kde/Autostart
[03:17] <easynintendo> im pretty sure it cant build cars
[03:17] <easynintendo> an stuff
[03:18] <BKaj> |lostbyte|: I can't get it to install from the konq file, where it resides...i don't have the proper permission level ...dunno why tho
[03:18] <Rogue> Thanks H3!
[03:18] <sensei> easynintendo: Start with clicking on everything in the menu that comes up if you click the K
[03:18] <sensei> You'll get a hint
[03:18] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, what do  you mean by konq file ?
[03:18] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, whatever you want it to. without that real world stuff, you can use it as a video phone, movie player, anything you can think of
[03:18] <h3sp4wn> Rogue: Any shellscript you put in there will be run
[03:18] <flashpc> lostbyte: ty
[03:18] <easynintendo> cool
[03:18] <easynintendo> um sensei
[03:18] <Leira> how to use icon-naming-utils?  i installed this package, but cannot find any file executable~
[03:18] <easynintendo> whats a pdf?
[03:19] <easynintendo> theres something in graphics section that says it sa pdf reader
[03:19] <BKaj> launch konqueror and type kmplayer in the url box
[03:19] <sensei> easynintendo:  http://www.google.com/search?hs=tmN&hl=en&lr=&client=opera&rls=en&q=PDF&btnG=Search
[03:19] <easynintendo> oh
[03:19] <easynintendo> you like search for stuff with google.com?
[03:19] <KaiHanari> yes
[03:19] <easynintendo> cool
[03:19] <Rogue> Anyway to fix the issue of having to give the firewall the root passwd everytime I login to get it to start?/
[03:19] <easynintendo> i told u im really new to this stuff:(
[03:20] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, That only searches for the file.
[03:20] <KaiHanari> a pdf is a portable document format, works everywhere
[03:20] <easynintendo> like a book in a file?
[03:20] <h3sp4wn> Rogue: Did you make the firewall script yourself ?
[03:20] <BKaj> anf finds it if it's there
[03:20] <Leira> i just wanna usr tango icon theme in my kubuntu, i've installed tango-icon-theme tango-icon-theme-common and  tango-icon-theme-extras
[03:20] <Rogue> No running firestarter
[03:20] <sensei> easynintendo: Yeah, but you have to understand that these are *very very* basic questions, and it you'll ask about everything you find in the menu, it'll take a long time and people will get tired of you, and you might get a hard time getting answers for the real questions that can't be found through google in less than 45 seconds
[03:21] <easynintendo> oh
[03:21] <easynintendo> im sorry :(
[03:21] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, a book, presentation, pictures. its a file that can contain almost anything you could have on your screen, but ANY computer, can use it
[03:21] <easynintendo> cool
[03:21] <easynintendo> how come linux is free?
[03:21] <easynintendo> doesnt it cost money to make an upgrade?
[03:21] <adamant1988> in ubuntu?
[03:21] <adamant1988> no...
[03:21] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, not when everyone chips in
[03:21] <easynintendo> ?
[03:22] <flashpc> when i install an app like kmplayer, how can i tell where the apllication file is on my drive? i need to tell firefox where it is
[03:22] <sensei> flashpc: 'whereis firefox'
[03:22] <sensei> In a terminal
[03:22] <adamant1988> it's under /usr/ isn't it?
[03:22] <sensei> Or 'which' is also fine
[03:23] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, with people helping to fix problems, like there are in linux, upgrades come along pretty well without money... windows / microsoft, they keep the stuff that goes on underneath what you see hidden, so you cant really figure out whats wrong to help fix it
[03:23] <h3sp4wn> easynintendo : Canocial employs developers so it costs them money to maintain ubuntu and they spend money on sending out cd's
[03:23] <flashpc> sensel ty
[03:23] <sensei> np
[03:23] <adamant1988> h3sp4wn, they also make a good bit of money on support.
[03:23] <easynintendo> so if it costs them money why do they make it free?
[03:23] <easynintendo> but isnt support free?
[03:23] <easynintendo> im confused :(
[03:23] <adamant1988> from the community yes
[03:24] <adamant1988> but canonical offers professional support, the kind companies like.
[03:24] <easynintendo> oh
[03:24] <easynintendo> companies use linux?
[03:24] <adamant1988> yes.
[03:24] <easynintendo> so where does microsoft get like billions of dollars every year?
[03:24] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, thats from places that dont use linux, and the xbox 360, and game sales
[03:25] <adamant1988> Microsoft gets the money from windows service calls, and such, liscensing fees, and all that.
[03:25] <easynintendo> no i know but dont companies have more computers than regular people?
[03:25] <adamant1988> Windows has built it's own economy and as long as windows is imperfect it will continue to make a lot of money.
[03:25] <sensei> Yeah, definately a troll
[03:26] <adamant1988> sensei, I hope you're not referring to me
[03:26] <stefan_> Does anybody here know if kubuntu has any problems with the XFS filesystem?
[03:26] <sensei> adamant1988: No no, easynintendo
[03:26] <easynintendo> ?
[03:26] <sensei> No one can be this clueless
[03:26] <adamant1988> I don't think he is trolling, he's just curious.
[03:26] <easynintendo> now you are making fun of me :(
[03:26] <sensei> I'm convinced he's trolling
[03:26] <easynintendo> and im not a he im a she thank u
[03:26] <KaiHanari> sensei, yea, they can.
[03:26] <adamant1988> Ah, ok easynintendo :)
[03:27] <easynintendo> now everyones making fun of me :(
[03:27] <KaiHanari> sensei, you might not have been like that once, but i sure as hell was.
[03:27] <adamant1988> no, sensei is just jumping the gun a bit
[03:27] <adamant1988> some people in the linux community are overly defensive.
[03:27] <sensei> Seriously.. 2006.. "Doesn't companies have more computers than regular people"?
[03:28] <easynintendo> stop making fun of me :( its not my fault we are poor and i never had my own computer before :(
[03:28] <sensei> Has the guy never been to an office? Never seen about virus attacks on the news? Never spoken to a friend?
[03:28] <easynintendo> i dont know these things :(
[03:28] <BKaj> he knows too much about getting IRC etc in linux ....or someone with a bit knowhow is prompting him
[03:28] <easynintendo> and im not a guy im a girl!
[03:28] <sensei> Ok, I rest my case.. Still convinced though :)
[03:28] <BKaj> err her then
[03:28] <sensei> lol
[03:28] <easynintendo> i clicked on konversation
[03:28] <easynintendo> an it took me here
[03:28] <easynintendo> it said it was a chat program
[03:28] <easynintendo> so i thought i could get help :(
[03:28] <BKaj> agreed sensei...there' a bit of a put-on going on here
[03:29] <sensei> Page two in the trolling manual 'claim to be a girl, and the geeks will jump with joy and spend all their energy on you in hope of some action in the hayloft'
[03:29] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, sensei just that you are someone that actually knows what your talking about, but comes here to tick people off, most of us know that you arent. but they do exist sometimes, so its not a bad think for him to suspect someone now and then
[03:29] <easynintendo> stop making fun of me:(
[03:29] <KaiHanari> *thinks that
[03:30] <easynintendo> but why is he being mean to me?:(
[03:30] <easynintendo> i didnt do anything to him:(
[03:30] <stefan_> easynintendo: If you want some help I can try and help you. See the menu on the side with the names? Find mine, right click on it and go "DCC chat"
[03:31] <easynintendo> and now something from sensei popped up and hes making fun of me still :(
[03:31] <easynintendo> make him stop :(
[03:31] <KaiHanari> stefan_, better hope the client is set up right, and that theres no router, that doesnt always work
[03:31] <BKaj> anyway sensi..i see mplayer is meant to run in gnome , but i can't get kmplayer to install in kde ... it says i don't have permission to make the install file executable ?
[03:31] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, ignore him, stuff like that goes on
[03:31] <easynintendo> how do i do that?
[03:31] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, which file ?
[03:31] <KaiHanari> if you want to make it so you cant see anything he says easynintendo , then type   /ignore sensei
[03:31] <KaiHanari> in this
[03:31] <sensei> I wasn't making fun, I was congratulating you.
[03:32] <Philip5> BKaj: how are you trying yo install it?
[03:32] <sensei> Sry then
[03:32] <easynintendo> there it said added sensei to your ignore list
[03:32] <easynintendo> why was he making fun of me?:(
[03:32] <easynintendo> i came here for help and he first tells me to do it on my own and then makes fun of me when i cant :(
[03:32] <easynintendo> and then calls me names
[03:33] <stefan_> easynintendo: there are some people around like that
[03:33] <sensei> 09:30:36 <sensei> Heh you're good.. took me quite a whlie to figure it out
[03:33] <sensei> Eh, all I said to him
[03:33] <flashpc> i am going to have to cancle my vongo service if i keep using ubuntu
[03:33] <KaiHanari> flashpc, vongo?
[03:33] <easynintendo> ok so when the updater thing is done do i hav to reboot like when i did windowsupdate on windows?
[03:34] <easynintendo> i saw a vongo thing on tv
[03:34] <flashpc> vongo is a pay movie download service that generally works in realtime
[03:34] <easynintendo> its like movies on the computer
[03:34] <easynintendo> or something
[03:34] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, not unless it tells you to
[03:34] <flashpc> the big problem with vongo is movie slection
[03:34] <easynintendo> does linux run windows stuff?
[03:35] <flashpc> they have mostly really old movies, and don't add but maybe 10 movies a week. also, for every 10 they add, they remove 10 as well
[03:35] <KaiHanari> i hate those pay-to-watch services.... they barely ever work on linux
[03:35] <flashpc> kinda sucks
[03:35] <flashpc> it's not pay per watch, it's unlimited downloads
[03:35] <Danni> I'm subscribed to one, but since it was free, I don't mind :P
[03:35] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, generally, no... some stuff /can/ work, but its either complicated, or if not, rare.  but there are somet things like firefox that are made for both linux and window
[03:35] <KaiHanari> s
[03:36] <easynintendo> oh
[03:36] <BKaj> kmplayer sensi..it's in user/bin/apps
[03:36] <easynintendo> ya i got firefox
[03:36] <flashpc> unlimited as in whatever is in their library
[03:36] <easynintendo> where is it like how do i run it?
[03:36] <markc> anyone know when edgy might be synced to Debian etch ?
[03:36] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, K -> internet
[03:36] <easynintendo> there it is thank u
[03:36] <KaiHanari> you can right click on things and copy them to the desktop or the panel at the bottom for easier access
[03:36] <flashpc> btw, opera's bittoeent implementation is really bad as far as i can tell
[03:37] <easynintendo> panel?
[03:37] <flashpc> *bittorrrent
[03:37] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, thats the name of the thing at the bottom of the screen
[03:37] <easynintendo> oh
[03:37] <Danni> I have a minor problem now with flash, but it's definitely not urgent
[03:37] <KaiHanari> easynintendo, see, your learning ;)
[03:37] <easynintendo> :)
[03:37] <Danni> my sound is out of sync with my video
[03:37] <easynintendo> how long will it take me to learn to use this?
[03:37] <KaiHanari> back in a bit
[03:37] <easynintendo> like to be able to play music an download music an stuff?
[03:37] <flashpc> i don't think flash is past version 7 on linux
[03:37] <easynintendo> omg he left :(
[03:37] <Danni> It isn't
[03:38] <Danni> that isn't the problem
[03:38] <flashpc> oh
[03:38] <thomas> hey guys
[03:38] <Danni> the problem is that the sound is behind the video by about 2 seconds :P
[03:38] <thomas> how can i get an icon which shows the desktop (minimizes all programs)
[03:38] <sensei> easynintendo: Yeah, well done :)
[03:38] <stefan_> easynintendo: Depends, if you want to play music and stuff, it wont take long
[03:39] <flashpc> thomas: when you find one tell me, because i miss the "show desktop" command from windows
[03:39] <thomas> yeah, me too
[03:39] <Danni> I tend to just click on one of my other Desktops for that
[03:39] <Danni> since I only really use 2
[03:40] <Danni> so 3 and 4 are my "display desktop" ones
[03:40] <h3sp4wn> Right click panel -> add applet -> show desktop
[03:41] <thomas> oh, well, kind of a workaround...
[03:41] <thomas> btw, how can i extract .rar archives (ark doesn't do it...)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> Not really it works in exactly the same way
[03:41] <easynintendo> oh
[03:41] <|lostbyte|> thomas, unrar x file.rar
[03:41] <easynintendo> hey stefan what did u say to do so u can help me?
[03:41] <thomas> h3sp4wn: ah, thx... haven't read your line
[03:42] <|lostbyte|> stefan_> easynintendo: If you want some help I can try and help you. See the menu on the side with the names? Find mine, right click on it and go "DCC chat"
[03:43] <flashpc> h3sp4n: thanks, now how do i bind windows key + d to it?
[03:43] <stefan_> |lostbyte|: thank you
[03:43] <easynintendo> ok i did it an something came up
[03:43] <easynintendo> now what?
[03:43] <|lostbyte|> :)
[03:44] <stefan_> "[505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register!"
[03:44] <easynintendo> ?
[03:44] <easynintendo> so what do i do?
[03:44] <thomas> |lostbyte|: it just says: unrar: command not found
[03:44] <Howitzer> any idea how to make ALL icons in konqueror the same size so they are nicely lined up? (ex: .txt preview files are bigger then a .url file which makes it uneven)
[03:44] <Howitzer> thomas, apt-get install rar
[03:45] <Howitzer> and apt-get install unrar
[03:45] <|lostbyte|> thomas, there you go ^^
[03:45] <thomas> Howitzer: thx :)
[03:45] <stefan_> |lostbyte|: it says I ned to be registered
[03:45] <Howitzer> np :)
[03:45] <Howitzer> in doubt, do an apt-cache search
[03:45] <flashpc> so how do i wind a key combo to the show desktop applet?
[03:45] <Howitzer> 8/10 your answer will be there
[03:46] <|lostbyte|> stefan_, just do.. the second command Howitzer said..
[03:46] <Howitzer> sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:47] <flashpc> wind = bind
[03:47] <easynintendo> um stefan
[03:47] <easynintendo> what do i do?
[03:47] <|lostbyte|> flashpc, alt + ctrl +D
[03:47] <Howitzer> flashpc, i think they're is an option to do that
[03:47] <Howitzer> in KControl
[03:47] <Howitzer> |lostbyte| that just minimizes all programs
[03:47] <Howitzer> ooh
[03:47] <Howitzer> nvm
[03:48] <Howitzer> that's what he asked :D
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> Howitzer, thats also kde hotkey to toggle show desktop..
[03:48] <stefan_> |lostbyte|: which one was that?
[03:48] <stefan_> easynintendo: im trying to figure that out
[03:48] <|lostbyte|> stefan_, sudo apt-get install unrar
[03:48] <easynintendo> o
[03:48] <easynintendo> ok
[03:49] <flashpc> I am in regional and accessibility key bindings, but it only allows you to add from items already in the kmenu
[03:49] <Howitzer> nvm
[03:49] <Howitzer> found the answer to my problem
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> stefan_, rar is not free and is trial, unless you bought the licence.
[03:49] <flashpc> can i add an applet to kmenu? how?
[03:49] <Jack1> guys one question in firestarter three active devices appear eth0,sit0,pp0
[03:49] <Jack1> i wonder if this is right
[03:49] <|lostbyte|> flashpc, go to the kmenu and right click any where > edit menu..
[03:50] <Howitzer> flashpc, rightclick on the KDE start button, go to panel menu, and then do the upper option
[03:50] <Howitzer> nvm
[03:50] <flashpc> yeah i am doing that, but i don't know the syntax for running an applet like show desktop in the command edit
[03:50] <thomas> another archiv question: how can i extract a tar.bz2 archive?
[03:50] <easynintendo> um flashpc
[03:51] <flashpc> applet "show desktop" ?
[03:51] <easynintendo> jlostbye said ctrl alt D
[03:51] <Howitzer> flashpc, you're doing 'add application' i think
[03:51] <easynintendo> i think
[03:51] <easynintendo> ill shut up now
[03:51] <stefan_> easynintendo: do you have an MSN or anything like that?
[03:51] <easynintendo> um
[03:51] <flashpc> yeah, i dont see add applet in the kmenu editor
[03:51] <easynintendo> i dont know
[03:51] <thomas> ark hangs up if i want to open/extract it
[03:52] <flashpc> all there is is "add item"
[03:52] <adamant1988> uhmmmm
[03:52] <flashpc> and it wants a command
[03:52] <adamant1988> KDE won't shut down =\
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> flashpc, search..
[03:52] <|lostbyte|> :)
[03:53] <|lostbyte|> adamant1988, pls explain ?
[03:53] <adamant1988> I'm using the button to tell it to log out of this session
[03:53] <adamant1988> it's ignoring me completely.
[03:53] <Howitzer> lol
[03:54] <Howitzer> do CTRL-ALT-Backspace
[03:54] <adamant1988> ok
[03:54] <Howitzer> that's what he wanted, right?
[03:54] <|lostbyte|> oppz.. lolx
[03:54] <stefan_> easynintendo: go to this address, and type your name in the Name field http://www.metroid2002.com/cgiirc-0.5.2/irc.cgi
[03:55] <flashpc> basically i need to know how to invoke the "Show Desktop" applet from the command line ... ?
[03:55] <BKaj> ok , I've DL'd the 0.92 version of KMPlayer , but it's targz file which I have trouble with (since I'm used to extracting zip files in windows and running the installer)..what's next in the installation step ?
[03:55] <easynintendo> ok i did it
[03:55] <easynintendo> now what?
[03:56] <stefan_> you should see my name on the right, double click it
[03:56] <easynintendo> ol
[03:56] <easynintendo> ok
[03:56] <flashpc> BKaj: i just used synaptic to install kmplayer
[03:56] <adamant1988> I think I got a botched kubuntu install.
[03:56] <flashpc> BKaj: and i ddnt have to do a thing other than click install
[03:56] <Howitzer> flashpc, isn't kmplayer installed on default? :/
[03:56] <wily> hi at all
[03:56] <wily> i'm from italy
[03:56] <flashpc> not for me no
[03:56] <BKaj> yeah flashpc, i already tried that but it won't launch
[03:57] <flashpc> just type kmplayer at a comand prompt
[03:57] <flashpc> did you heck the right package in synaptic?
[03:57] <BKaj> flashpc:  bash: kmplayer: command not found
[03:58] <flashpc> i think you didn't install the right package, hold on
[03:59] <wily> anyone knows how to administrate Xauth?
[03:59] <wily> i don't remember
[03:59] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, you dont have it installed ?
[03:59] <Howitzer> nvm
[03:59] <Howitzer> kmplayer isn't installed on default
[03:59] <wily> by shell i've problem to launch application
[03:59] <Howitzer> it's just a konqueror plugin which is installed
[03:59] <flashpc> search synaptic for mplayer
[03:59] <BKaj> i guess not ...i'm confused, cuxz it should be
[03:59] <sensei> wily: Did you export the display to begin with ?
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, sudo apt-get install kmplayer
[04:00] <wily> sensei: i don't remember the process
[04:00] <flashpc> then tick off kmplayer "media player for KDE" and click aplly
[04:00] <|lostbyte|> wily, which application ?
[04:00] <BKaj> |lostbyte|: E: Couldn't find package kmplayer
[04:00] <wily> all application
[04:00] <flashpc> after tht it should install and you can start it by typing kmplayer at the command prompt
[04:01] <RogueX> Is Mplayer and KMplayer the same?  I have both installed for some reason.
[04:01] <sensei> wily: Simply try export DISPLAY=localhost:0 first
[04:01] <wily> ahh yes i do it
[04:01] <flashpc> BKaj: are you using synaptic?
[04:01] <suppaman> hello
[04:01] <wily> i remember that in debian i must to erase a file
[04:02] <flashpc> BKaj: if so you probably need to update your sources.list
[04:02] <sensei> wily: You want to start an application on another users X sessio n?
[04:02] <wily> but i don't rembers what is it
[04:02] <wily> no no
[04:02] <sensei> wily: There's always ~/.Xauthority
[04:02] <|lostbyte|> BKaj, have you added the universe source. ?
[04:02] <markc> wow, dapper is getting so out of date now that I'm thinking of "upgrading" to Debain etch!!! I don't believe it... but I might.
[04:02] <wily> just a moment
[04:02] <|lostbyte|> markc, example ?
[04:03] <markc> courier 0.4.7 in dapper, 0.5+ in etch
[04:03] <markc> php5 5.1.2 in dapper, 5.1.4 in etch, and testing
[04:03] <markc> kde 3.5.2 in dapper, 3.5.3 in etch
[04:03] <wily> sensei no
[04:04] <spike> hi there
[04:04] <wily> i remember that was a file
[04:04] <spike> got kubuntu dapper and there's no look and feel in the cntrol panel
[04:04] <spike> how do I hange a theme?
[04:04] <wily> that stops my display
[04:04] <wily> can i edit it in some way?
[04:05] <BKaj> |lostbyte|:  i havekmplayer-base and doc and konqplugins in synaptic
[04:05] <markc> courier-authpgsql does not work properly in courier 0.4.7... PDO does not work right in PHP 5.1.2
[04:05] <RogueX> Spike: I can help you with that
[04:06] <spike> RogueX: good, I'm listening, ta
[04:06] <RogueX> Spike:  Go to system settings - appearance - Icons-   Theme install is there
[04:07] <raytray25> why does konversation make the channel #c&t look like #c&&t ?
[04:07] <suppaman> what package should I install in order to have mysqld ?
[04:07] <wily>  i've a strange error launching application by shell
[04:07] <wily> can i paste it?
[04:07] <markc> suppaman>  mysql-server
[04:07] <wily> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:07] <wily>   Major opcode:  145
[04:07] <wily>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:07] <wily>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:07] <linuxmonkey> !paste
[04:07] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:08] <wily> Failed to open device
[04:08] <suppaman> markc: thx
[04:08] <wily> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[04:08] <wily>   Major opcode:  145
[04:08] <wily>   Minor opcode:  3
[04:08] <wily>   Resource id:  0x0
[04:08] <wily> Failed to open device
[04:08] <wily> !paste
[04:08] <spike> RogueX: eeer, that's for icon themes, not kde themes
[04:08] <spike> it doesnt, of course, work
[04:08] <omeow> raytray25: It's a known bug, I believe.
[04:08] <easynintendo> um stefan i messed it up
[04:08] <easynintendo> an now it wont log in
[04:09] <bobbyd> hi
[04:09] <RogueX> Spike: Sorry
[04:09] <omeow> raytray25: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123819
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> bobbyd, hi !
[04:09] <bobbyd> how can I use paths like "lan:/myComputer/bob" on the command line with commands like cp ?
[04:09] <raytray25> thanks
[04:09] <bobbyd> |lostbyte|, hi :)
[04:09] <markc> sheesh.. 600mb to upgrade to Debain etch... sigh... see ya'll
[04:09] <|lostbyte|> bobbyd, you cannt.
[04:10] <raytray25> is it possible to make konversation auto start up? i don't see an option anywhere.
[04:10] <bobbyd> |lostbyte|, ok thanks :)
[04:13] <|lostbyte|> raytray25, start it and save session, or place a command in .kde/Autostart/
[04:13] <sensei> bobbyd: If it's a samba share, you can mount it as a harddrive and copy files from it
[04:13] <bobbyd> sensei, ok
[04:13] <sensei> Or use smbclient, whatever
[04:14] <raytray25> do i place the command in .directory ?
[04:16] <visik7> adept doesn't read preferences ?
[04:18] <dr_willis> visik7,  how vague a statement.. care to try again?
[04:18] <visik7> dr_willis: I've setup a /etc/apt/preferences apt-get update says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. but adept icon is in the tray
[04:20] <RogueX> Anyone know how to change the icon in an application such as Firefox??
[04:20] <dr_willis> RogueX,  thers icon themes packs. :P but i never really get that worried about indvidual icons.
[04:20] <dr_willis> try that menu editor tool?
[04:21] <ChefWill> RogueX:  right click on it and go to properties
[04:21] <ChefWill> configure rather
[04:21] <ChefWill> then click  on the icon
[04:22] <RogueX> I don't worry about it that much but I change the icon in the menu for the default one in firefox to the one with the fox on the globe it changes the launch icon but the acual icon that comes up in firefox is unchanged
[04:22] <RogueX> just wonder if its a bug
[04:23] <BKaj> I'm really stumped, I have KMplayer DL'd but when I try to install it in the konsole it gives me this:E: Couldn't find package kmplayer-0.9.2a.tar.bz
[04:23] <ChefWill> no, youd probably have to look for a hack/edit to do that RogueX
[04:24] <Dawei> Healot: Thank you for the advice last night about setting up Kubuntu. It worked just fine. I hope you have a pleasant day.
[04:24] <ChefWill> BKaj: how are you trying to do it
[04:24] <Philip5> BKaj: install it with apt-get
[04:24] <DaSkreech> BKaj: Just install it via Adept :-P
[04:24] <ChefWill> you gotta CD to the dir its in...
[04:24] <BKaj> adpt and synaptic both say it's installed
[04:25] <Philip5> BKaj: using tar-balls should be your last option for anything on your system
[04:25] <BKaj> ChefWill: sudo apt-get install kmplayer-0.9.2a.tar.bz
[04:25] <ChefWill> ;|
[04:25] <Philip5> BKaj: you don't use the downloaded tar-file you have
[04:25] <ChefWill> try
[04:25] <BKaj> extract it first eh ?
[04:25] <ChefWill> sudo apt-get install kmplayer
[04:26] <ChefWill> you have to search for package name first via  apt-cache search
[04:26] <BKaj> E: Couldn't find package kmplayer
[04:26] <ChefWill> ugh
[04:26] <ChefWill> !repos
[04:26] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:26] <Philip5> BKaj: do as ChefWill told you and it will be fine... it will take care of everything for you
[04:26] <ChefWill> read that
[04:26] <ChefWill> you need to enable the multiverse repos
[04:27] <RogueX> Does anyone know if Kmplayer and Mplayer are the same?
[04:27] <BKaj> kmplayer-base - Base files for KMPlayer
[04:27] <BKaj> kmplayer-doc - Handbook for KMPlayer
[04:27] <BKaj> kmplayer-konq-plugins - KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror
[04:29] <ChefWill> RogueX: no
[04:30] <suppaman> konqueror is reporting a lack of mimetypes and when I click a directory inweb server asks for an application
[04:30] <suppaman> is there a way to fix mimetypes?
[04:31] <DaSkreech> RogueX: They are not
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Hi gnomefreak
[04:32] <gnomefreak> hi DaSkreech
[04:33] <RogueX> I contually have problems seeing video inside of Firefox.  The video window never appears.  Anyone have any ideas?
[04:34] <Philip5> RogueX: an unsupported video format or codec?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> RogueX: Mplayer?
[04:35] <RogueX> Philip5:  I dont know.  I know that sometimes I can download the link and play it so I know Kubuntu has the possibility.
[04:35] <BKaj> when I try to install in the konsole , the file isn't recognized ..WTF?
[04:36] <RogueX> DaSkreech:  Yess Mplayer
[04:36] <DaSkreech> RogueX: It's strange in Firefox
[04:36] <DaSkreech>  The video doesn't come up inside of firefox it comes up in an external window
[04:37] <RogueX> DaSkreech: My co-worker uses Ubuntu that I think is running Totem? and it never seems to have a problem.
[04:38] <DaSkreech> Well you can install totem and see if it works :)
[04:39] <Philip5> it depends if you installed any video plugins for firefox
[04:39] <Philip5> some installs for video apps install that too
[04:40] <RogueX> DaSkreech:  Will Totem run in Kubuntu?
[04:40] <sensei> Most software run on most distributions
[04:41] <user_> hi
[04:41] <sensei> RogueX: Have you downloaded all codecs for mplayer and placed them in the correct dir ?
[04:41] <Jack1> is it possible to upgrade to kopete 0.12 via apt-get rather than building by hand?
[04:41] <RogueX> Philip5: I think I have them all installed..   I currently show the following installed - Codeine, Kmplayer, Kaffeine, Movie Player, Mplayer, VLC, Xine movie player...
[04:41] <Tommy2k4> omg i ran out of disk space :|
[04:41] <Tommy2k4> whats that console command to view disk space on each partition
[04:41] <sensei> df -h
[04:41] <RogueX>   I currently show the following installed - Codeine, Kmplayer, Kaffeine, Movie Player, Mplayer, VLC, Xine movie player...
[04:42] <Tommy2k4> crap its full :(
[04:42] <emonkey> Tommy2k4, sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:42] <Philip5> RogueX: check in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins and /home/user/.mozilla/plugins
[04:42] <RogueX> sensei:  how do I check for codecs
[04:43] <emonkey> Tommy2k4, that delets some old packages
[04:43] <Tommy2k4> saved me like 16mb
[04:43] <Philip5> RogueX: there's usually where plugs go
[04:43] <emonkey> Tommy2k4,  if you want to delet all cached Packages do sudo apt-get clean
[04:43] <sensei> RogueX: Try mplayer -vo help
[04:44] <sensei> Or that's video output rather.. nm
[04:44] <Tommy2k4> ooo it saved me like 300mb
[04:44] <sensei> mplayer -vc help even
[04:44] <RogueX> Philip5: in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins... what should I be looking for?
[04:44] <emonkey> Tommy2k4, hope that's enough
[04:44] <Tommy2k4> yea
[04:44] <emonkey> good
[04:44] <Tommy2k4> hdd is only 9gb and i have a 4gb windows partition
[04:44] <|lostbyte|> Any one sloved the issue of tvtime and xgl ?
[04:44] <Tommy2k4> well, 4.8gb windows
[04:45] <Philip5> RogueX:  a file that refers to any of your installed videoplayers
[04:45] <emonkey> Tommy2k4, i see, i know this problem
[04:45] <RogueX> sensei : 91 audio & 204 video codecs is what that reported
[04:46] <sensei> RogueX: Okay, sounds like there isn't a codec issue then
[04:46] <RogueX> Philip5: it says flashplayer, mplayer
[04:47] <flashpc> how can i determine the amout of ram my system has?
[04:47] <Philip5> robert__: aha, then if mplayer is setup right then it might start if you have some video content it supports in firefox
[04:48] <Philip5> robert__ sorry, should be RogueX
[04:48] <ChefWill> anyone know a fix to washed out color in konq thru kmplayer?
[04:49] <RogueX> Philip5:  I get some to play but others don't... hit or miss..
[04:49] <RogueX> Philip5: No /home/user/.mozilla/plugins
[04:50] <Philip5> RogueX: the last one is only if you have locally user installed plugs
[04:51] <Tommy2k4> why does kaffeine (with xine)  keep giving a xine error, device busy or something when moving to next track in playlist
[04:51] <Tommy2k4> not every time tho
[04:53] <RogueX> Philip5: This is really the only thing thats keeping me still using windows.  Web browse just doesn't work consistently.  I have reinstalled Kubuntu 4x now in the last week alone.. LOL
[04:53] <sensei> RogueX: Have you tried konqueror ?
[04:54] <RogueX> sensei : No I haven't tried that.. will try now..
[04:54] <Philip5> RogueX: it's because the linux players doesn't support quicktime and windows media files in all ways and that codeweaver can sell theu crossover plugs for browsers
[04:54] <dr_willis> i never play media files embeded in the browser. :P i always get them in their own external player program..
[04:54] <Tommy2k4> RogueX, you tried automatix?
[04:54] <sensei> It does, if you download the 'all' package from ftp.mplayerhq.hu
[04:55] <Tommy2k4> i did it last night and now i have mplayer plugin for firefox
[04:55] <dr_willis> Ick automatix :P
[04:55] <dr_willis> (it had to be said) heh heh
[04:55] <Tommy2k4> i h8 firefox but i only use it cos the plugins work
[04:55] <DaSkreech> Hi dr_willis :)
[04:55] <BKaj> hmmm seems I vcan't install anything in the konsole ,...it can't find any pkgs that i've DL'd
[04:55] <dr_willis> i <3 firefox
[04:55] <dr_willis> :)
[04:55] <flashpc> has anyone here used gimpshop?
[04:55] <RogueX> Tommy2k4: Yep I used that..
[04:57] <RogueX> Sensei: I just tried Konqueror... same thing... page comes up but no video window..
[04:58] <johnflux> dr_willis: get with the time
[04:58] <johnflux> dr_willis: we're in unicode now
[04:58] <johnflux> dr_willis: "I  firefox"
[04:58] <dr_willis> johnflux,  what next official mirc colors? :P
[04:58] <dr_willis> :P
[04:58] <johnflux> :)
[04:59] <DaSkreech> *laughs* That's Great how'd you do that?
[04:59] <sensei> RogueX: Oddity
[04:59] <johnflux> dr_willis: "I  firefox"
[04:59] <johnflux> I  KDE
[04:59] <bobbyd>  I  unicode
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah how do you type that :-P I can't find the  button
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Is that Skim?
[05:00] <johnflux> nah
[05:00] <johnflux> gnome-character-select
[05:00] <dr_willis> heh
[05:00] <johnflux> search for heart
[05:00] <dr_willis> im using windows xp and xchat. :P
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Kubuntu
[05:00] <DaSkreech> :-p
[05:00] <bobbyd> DaSkreech, it's underneath the smiley key
[05:01] <RogueX> Sensi: GOT IT!
[05:01] <DaSkreech> bobbyd: Gnome as well?
[05:01] <RogueX> Sensi:  I figured out what it was
[05:01] <abattoir> DaSkreech: kcharselect for us :)
[05:01] <bobbyd> DaSkreech, just look on your keyboard under the smiley key!
[05:02] <DaSkreech> abattoir: Not installed?
[05:03] <RogueX> Sensei:  You have a choice of Windows or Flash.. I was picking flash... and guess what version it is running...  Version 8 of course!
[05:03] <johnflux> abattoir:  kcharselect doesn't do search
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Why isn't accesibilty stuff installed by default?
[05:03] <johnflux> abattoir:  I've been meaning to add it
[05:03] <johnflux> abattoir:  but too lazy
[05:03] <abattoir> anyway, it is table 38 
[05:03] <RogueX> Sensei: When I picked WMA it worked just fine with MPlayer!
[05:03] <dr_willis> 
[05:03] <sensei> heh d'oh
[05:03] <dr_willis>  - /nick dr_
[05:04] <Hobbsee> DaSkreech: good question
[05:04] <sensei> Well, something has to go to fit one cd
[05:04] <abattoir> DaSkreech: i think it was installed by default for me.
[05:04] <RogueX> Sensei: went to the windows box and pulled it up and looked at the video propertys...  ARGGG
[05:05] <abattoir> johnflux: kcharselect dev?
[05:05] <johnflux> 
[05:05] <johnflux> 
[05:06] <johnflux> abattoir: nah, but a general kde developer
[05:06] <abattoir> johnflux: you seem to be a konv. dev, would be a nice idea to include it konv.
[05:06] <ke> Do anyone know a postal code in london?
[05:06] <abattoir> johnflux: or would it just be bloatware? ;)
[05:06] <johnflux> abattoir: include what?
[05:06] <johnflux> abattoir: Insert->special character
[05:07] <johnflux> that runs kcharselect
[05:07] <abattoir> johnflux: aah, nice, hadnt seen it :)
[05:07] <johnflux> ke: TW8 0LU
[05:08] <DaSkreech>  
[05:08] <BKaj> lucky you RogueX, I can't get Mplayer to work on my pc ...it's there but it won't launch ...and all this advice about installing from adept and synaptic and the ubuntu help site din't do dick .
[05:09] <gnomefreak> johnflux: kubuntu-desktop depends on python2.4-*?
[05:09] <kmh> *sigh*
[05:09] <DaSkreech> johnflux: Fasccinating How does it do that when I don't have kcharslect installed :)
[05:09] <kmh> what do you do if the friggin' adept gets stuck (for no onbvious reason) ?
[05:09] <johnflux> DaSkreech: dunno - probably kcharselect is a very thin program around the widget
[05:09] <gnomefreak> stuck?
[05:10] <DaSkreech> kmh: dpkg --configure -a
[05:10] <DaSkreech> But that's just me :)
[05:10] <gnomefreak> kmh: like freezes?
[05:10] <charlie5> to relocate /us/local to a new partition, can i just ... copy existing /usr/local to the new partition, delete /usr/local, then use system settings to mount new partion as /usr/local, then reboot ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: remember a week ago i got kubuntu up and running?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: it died on me again!!!! lol
[05:11] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: What did you do>
[05:11] <gnomefreak> i updated :(
[05:12] <gnomefreak> DaSkreech: they are pulling python2.4-* out of ubuntu and replacing it with something else and kubuntu/xubuntu-desktops depend on python2.4- things
[05:12] <kmh> gnomefreak:  : yes
[05:13] <kmh> DaSkreech: I#m running it through some kde gui wrap, it stopped at "preparing"
[05:13] <RogueX> Bkaj: I used Automatrix to install everything need for player.  Have you gave it a try yet?
[05:14] <dr_willis> i tend to just go to the mplayer homepage and download the codec packs
[05:14] <Tommy2k4> what packages do i install to get mysql working
[05:15] <leafwiz>  Hi, Anyone know which repository i need , to apt-get vmware server / GSX  ?
[05:15] <gnomefreak> !lamp > Tommy2k4
[05:15] <gnomefreak> Tommy2k4: look in your pm
[05:16] <kmh> i don't get the application isn't even frozen, it just stopped/didn'tstart downloading
[05:16] <DaSkreech> kmh: What does restarting ot do?
[05:16] <Tommy2k4> ty
[05:16] <DaSkreech> it
[05:17] <DaSkreech> gnomefreak: Eh? What about python?
[05:17] <kmh> DaSkreech: well then i have to do the package selection all over again plus i've got a "broken" installation
[05:17] <kmh> but i guess there's no way out :(
[05:18] <BKaj> RogueX: Automatrix
[05:18] <BKaj> what's that ?
[05:18] <DaSkreech> dpkg --configure -a from the command line
[05:18] <ubuntu> what is better? reiser or ext3?
[05:18] <kmh> DaSkreech: what that's supposed to be doing ?
[05:18] <dr_willis> depends on your needs.
[05:18] <dr_willis> Id say stick with ext3
[05:18] <DaSkreech> It continues a configuration
[05:19] <DaSkreech> Wait it doesn't download?
[05:19] <kmh> Ubuntu : reiser is technically more sophisticated afaik (but they are both doing the job,i.e. are journaling fs)
[05:19] <kmh> DaSkreech: : yes
[05:20] <ubuntu> home desktop computer. i deal with games, movies, large files.
[05:20] <RogueX> BKaj: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114251
[05:20] <dr_willis> Id say stick with ext3 then
[05:20] <ubuntu> k
[05:20] <RogueX> Bkaj: That installs everything you need to make Kubuntu run like a charm... awesome..
[05:21] <DaSkreech> kmh: This happens all the time?
[05:21] <snikker> domeones have tried to install acrobat reader (32-bit) on 64-bit system? i've got this error:  "PANGO_IS_CAIRO_FONT (font)' failed"  and i don't know how to fix it
[05:21] <kmh> ubuntu : either fs is fine, reiser is relatively mature as well and was/is used by distributions like suse
[05:22] <kmh> DaSkreech: first time iwas just wondering whether i can save the selection/end it "clean"
[05:23] <DaSkreech> kmh: So you have never gotten to install anything by Adept?
[05:23] <BKaj> thx but it won't work in dapper RogueX :(
[05:23] <RogueX> dr_willis: All I can say is so far I haven't had any problems but everyone is different
[05:23] <ubuntu> kmh: allright. but do i have the option to format as reiserfs in the dvd?
[05:23] <dr_willis> RogueX,  ive counted 3  today in #ubuntu
[05:24] <dr_willis> the problem may also be part of the "the user dont know enough about linux in general' trend. :)
[05:24] <kmh> ubuntu: dvd ?
[05:24] <kmh> DaSkreech: in the past yes, but not on this new installation
[05:25] <DaSkreech> Fresh install or dist-upgrade?
[05:25] <kmh> DaSkreech: fresh install
[05:25] <Set_> I've been informed
[05:25] <DaSkreech> No errors during the install?
[05:25] <Set_> That Kubuntu is a nice distro
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Aceept the information
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Trust the information
[05:26] <DaSkreech>  the information
[05:26] <ubuntu> kmh: http://mirror.mcs.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/kubuntu/6.06/release/
[05:26] <Set_> So, me downloading the ISO now... is not a dumb move?
[05:26] <kmh> DaSkreech:  nope everything fine so far, internet connection up and running, that's why i'm kinda stunned
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah. That's strange
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Ok walk me through what happens
[05:27] <RogueX> BKaj: Sorry sent the old link.  Try here http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177646
[05:27] <ubuntu> seems i don't have the option..
[05:27] <kmh> ubuntu: you don't pick an FS for a live CD/dvd and afaik that's neither ext3 nor reiser
[05:28] <DaSkreech> Set_: depends are you on Broadband or not?
[05:28] <Set_> I want a real userfriendly distro... the kind of distro that will have a network connectivity app that will crack wep keys and connect you to wireless networks automatically... the one that brute force your PPPoE username and password... the distro that use nmap to figure out what gateway and dns to use... the kind of distro that will automatically run cedega, and install your wingames with registry entries from your xp par
[05:28] <Set_> tition
[05:28] <ubuntu> kmh: yes, in this instyall/live dvd i can pick ext3, but not reiser
[05:28] <Set_> DaSkreech, Well... If you consider swedish 100 mbit/s connection Broadband ;)
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Set_: You may want to look at Phlak then :)
[05:29] <Set_> DaSkreech, , I certaintly will :)
[05:29] <Set_> Downloading iso @ 650 KB/s
[05:29] <kmh> Set_: : get sober first, install then
[05:29] <Set_> kmh, what do you imply?
[05:29] <tmdx120> Hello. Anyone home?
[05:30] <DaSkreech> No
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Shh
[05:30] <tmdx120> Lol!
[05:30] <kmh> Set_ : you may guess
[05:30] <Set_> kmh, is this a way to wish a new community member welcome?
[05:30] <tmdx120> Ok, I have a question regarding setting up my wireless network.
[05:30] <Set_> hinting that the new member might be having alcohol/drug problems? :|
[05:30] <DaSkreech> kmh: Walk me through what happens
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Set_: Well you were asking crazy questions :)
[05:31] <kmh> Set_: it is a friendly advice - no need to follow it
[05:31] <Set_> kmh, I'll get some sleep though... haven't slept in 48 hours. been to busy chasing cars.
[05:31] <Set_> DaSkreech, but valid questions :)
[05:31] <TheHighChild> Behold the power of meth
[05:32] <kmh> DaSkreech: i started the adept manager ,selected the packakes and started
[05:32] <DaSkreech> kmh: Which packages?
[05:32] <kmh> Set_: you see my advice might help
[05:32] <Set_> downloading @ 750 KB/s
[05:32] <tmdx120> apokryphos: hello again
[05:32] <kmh> DaS : some 700mb
[05:32] <Set_> kmh, but isn't Kubuntu idiot-proof?
[05:33] <TheHighChild> lol, hardly
[05:33] <kmh> Set_: no os is idiot proof
[05:33] <Set_> Maybe you can guide me step-by-step through the install?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Nothing is idiot proof
[05:33] <DaSkreech> The world breeds better equipped idiots
[05:33] <DaSkreech> That should be idiot proof :)
[05:33] <kmh> DaSkreech: exactly you just can't beat them
[05:33] <TheHighChild> Then the world elects them
[05:33] <Set_> So, what should I burn the iso on? dvd-r or cd-r?
[05:33] <Set_> I only got dvd-r. But is it important to get cd-r?
[05:34] <Set_> I can go and buy some cd-r
[05:34] <Set_> if that is very important
[05:34] <Set_> what application should I use for burning the iso with? k3b or emulated nero?
[05:34] <TheHighChild> k3b pwns nero
[05:34] <Set_> k3b it is then
[05:34] <dr_willis> I agree.. k3b blows nero-linux away :P
[05:34] <kmh> Set_: if you download the dvd burn it on a dvd, if you download the cd you probably can burn it on either
[05:35] <Set_> kmh, what is the difference between dvd and cd iso?
[05:35] <TheHighChild> You can burn that iso to a DVD, no need tro buy cd's. Unless, of course, you downloaded the DVD iso
[05:35] <emonkey> there are a nativ linux version of nero, but k3b is better imho
[05:35] <kmh> Set_ rumour has it that dvds are bigger
[05:35] <TheHighChild> LOL
[05:36] <Set_> kmh, higher quality applications? so cd iso is like kubuntu video cd, and dvd iso is like dvd ?
[05:36] <TheHighChild> Set_: cd iso is 700 MB or less, dvd iso is like 3.5 or something
[05:36] <RogueX> Anyone know how to set Kget to work with Firefox?
[05:36] <TheHighChild> RogueX: I freaking wish!!!
[05:36] <epinephrine> flashgot?
[05:36] <RogueX> HighChild:  LOL  I guess that's a no...
[05:37] <kmh> Set_: you can get all apllications downloaded later over the internet via package manager anyway (not matter what you've started with first)
[05:37] <Set_> Then I guess cd iso is best
[05:37] <kmh> DaSkreech: so any last hint or i just quite adept and try again ?
[05:37] <TheHighChild> Set_: I'd get the cd iso, you can burn it to dvd without problems
[05:37] <DaSkreech> kmh: What packages?
[05:37] <Set_> TheHighChild, I'll do that. Thanks
[05:38] <TheHighChild> Set_: after install, you'll want to look into easyubuntu or automatix. A quick google of each will bring up their pages
[05:38] <dr_willis> !easyubuntu
[05:38] <ubotu> EasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[05:39] <Set_> TheHighChild, I'll do that. Thanks a lot :)
[05:39] <kmh> DaSkreech: 700mb, i can't list them all nor recollect them all
[05:39] <DaSkreech> ?
[05:39] <DaSkreech> What? Did you do a full upgrade again or something?
[05:40] <kmh> DaSkreech: no, just selected lotsa stuff i considered interesting
[05:40] <DaSkreech> kmh: ok
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Well Can you select a few you find interesting now and see what happens?
[05:41] <tmdx120> can anyone help me right now?
[05:41] <Hawkwind> tmdx120: Just ask your question
[05:41] <kmh> DaSkreech: : that would be the next step
[05:41] <DaSkreech> Let me know how that goes
[05:42] <gatekeeper> tmdx120: what is your problem?
[05:42] <tmdx120> I am trying to activate my wireless network (ralink 2500) I am using ndswrapper front end. When I load the .inf file I get a no hardware message.
[05:42] <Set_> I'm super-seeding the cd-iso torrent now
[05:42] <DaSkreech> !ask
[05:42] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:42] <tmdx120> sorry, Im a newbie!
[05:42] <BKaj> RogueX: same prob I followed the instructions on the page ...everything appeared to dl and install except the last cmd and I got the:   "E; cannot find automatix " error msg agian
[05:43] <BKaj> this is unreal , the konsole can't see what's installed
[05:43] <uniq> bkaj: what's the command that gives the error?
[05:43] <tmdx120> BKaj: yeah, I used the front end GUI and i get the message Hardware present: no
[05:45] <ze4502us> quick questions here
[05:45] <BKaj> I shudda known it was for gnome , not kde , DOH!
[05:45] <ze4502us> how do i get amarok to download and play podcasts?
[05:46] <ze4502us> how do i get amarok to access itunes shares?
[05:46] <tmdx120> any ideas anyone?
[05:46] <ze4502us> how do i get kmail to automatically decrypt email
[05:46] <Howitzer> doesn't amarok have a podcast tab?
[05:46] <BKaj> I'm taking a break from this frustration...BBL
[05:46] <tmdx120> Im not. Can anyone give me a hand?
[05:46] <Howitzer> explain problem :)
[05:47] <kmh> DaSkreech: interesting it doesn't start again (the application itsself)
[05:47] <Set_> I'm starting install now
[05:47] <uniq> ze4502us: go to the playlist tab (left of the screen) - add.. choose playlist.
[05:47] <tmdx120> Im setting up my wirelss pci card (ralink 2500 AKA wifi@home, asus board)
[05:47] <Set_> what's ISOLINUX ?
[05:47] <uniq> ze4502us: choose podcast, of course.
[05:47] <DaSkreech> kmh: Adept?
[05:47] <tmdx120> I am using the ndisgtk front end
[05:47] <kmh> DaSkreech: yes
[05:47] <ze4502us> running dapper here
[05:47] <tmdx120> I get the autorun file from the driver cd
[05:48] <tmdx120> I load auto run
[05:48] <uniq> set_: info on isolinux http://syslinux.zytor.com/iso.php
[05:48] <kmh> gonna reboot
[05:48] <tmdx120> then I get "AUTORUN Hardware present: no"
[05:48] <Set_> restricted drivers?... does this mean nvidia out-of-the-box ?
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: For ra2500 the best drivers are not in dapper
[05:48] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: what is best for ra25oo?
[05:49] <TheHighChild> ze4502us: banshee-daap package should do it. Not fo'sho was I do not use it.
[05:49] <ze4502us> but that would mean downloading banshee as well
[05:49] <uniq> h3sp4wn: ralink? doesn't rt2500 module work?
[05:49] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Im a newbie, how do I get it?
[05:50] <h3sp4wn> uniq: the rt2x00.serialmonkey.com beta driver works alot more reliably for
[05:51] <uniq> h3sp4wn: ok, my dad runs the rt2500 with a WEP network, and it works for  him without problems.
[05:51] <tmdx120> So, what is the best way to get the rt2500 working?
[05:51] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: WPA ?
[05:52] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: WPA?
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: Are you using encryption of any type ? Do you need it to work as an access point ?
[05:52] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I was using wep. But from what I have gathered its as effective as tin cans on a string.
[05:53] <DaSkreech> kmh_: Hi
[05:53] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: besides, I just switched ISP and modem, so I would like the best necryuptiuo I can muster.
[05:53] <h3sp4wn> uniq: The driver has an inbuilt wpa implimentation and is not compatible with wext (so you can't use wpa_supplicant)
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: Are you using a router ?
[05:54] <uniq> h3sp4wn: that would be rt2500 or rt2x00 ?
[05:55] <kmh_> DaSkreech: re, now it seems to work
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Ok :-)
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> uniq: rt2500 has its own wpa implimentation that causes it to be unstable
[05:55] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: no, just a touchstone telphony modem
[05:55] <kmh_> DaSkreech: i start getting that windows feeling (aka it doesn't work - try reboot)
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: And you need to connect other computers to it by wireless ?
[05:56] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Yes, exactly.
[05:57] <deepu> hello everyone
[05:58] <gatekeeper> hiya deepu
[05:58] <deepu> i have a question
[05:58] <deepu> as i am new to linux
[05:58] <Hobbsee> !+ask
[05:58] <ubotu> I know nothing about +ask
[05:58] <Hobbsee> !ask
[05:58] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: You cannot use the driver in dapper then (it only works as a wireless client)
[05:58] <deepu> can you please tell me how to join a channel or network
[05:59] <DaSkreech> deepu: /join #channel-name
[05:59] <deepu> i just switched to linux from windows and i used to get some stuff online
[05:59] <deepu> in this window or in the freenode?
[05:59] <|lostbyte|> deepu, network ==> /server server.com
[05:59] <DaSkreech> deepu: /connect irc.networkname.ext
[05:59] <DaSkreech> Or that :)
[06:00] <deepu> deepu, network==>/server esylum.com
[06:00] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Let me see I have the modem with a line going into my box, In my box I have a rt2500 wireless cafrd. I cany use my linux box as a broadcast point?that b
[06:00] <|lostbyte|> deepu, use /newserver to open up a new tab..
[06:01] <RogueX> BKaj:  It sounds like your not ROOT running the command.
[06:01] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: You can but to do that you need a driver which can be used with hostapd
[06:01] <deepu> sorry it doesn't work :(
[06:01] <deepu> use /newserver
[06:01] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I want to use my Linux box as a Wireless Bridge. Is it possible?
[06:02] <deepu> when i type /newserver it tells me that it is an unknown command
[06:02] <deepu> :(
[06:02] <deepu> sorry mate
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: Why do you need a bridge ?>
[06:02] <deepu> i am getting frustrated
[06:02] <deepu> :(
[06:02] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: sorry, I want to use it as a Soft Acess Point.
[06:02] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: sorry, Im a total newbie.
[06:03] <gatekeeper> h3sp4wn: he is trying to use his pc like a wireless router
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> gatekeeper: I know but the rt2500 driver in dapper does not work with hostapd
[06:04] <tmdx120> gatekeeper: yes, that is what Im trying to do.
[06:05] <tmdx120> is it possible to use my pc as a wireless router using the ra2500 card?
[06:05] <ninHer> hi all
[06:06] <Dannilion> ............0.100000000
[06:06] <tmdx120> Even the asus  manual (shockingly enough) says I can use linux.
[06:06] <Tommy2k4> wheres the default apache location for hosting files
[06:07] <|lostbyte|> Tommy2k4, huh ! /var/pub/ i guess..
[06:07] <Tommy2k4> /var/www thx
[06:07] <tmdx120> one of the reasons I got the card in the first place is that it was LINUX compatible.
[06:09] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: It is compatible in client mode
[06:10] <tmdx120> That is what the manual tells me.
[06:10] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: the manual says that it is LINUX compatible as Soft AP
[06:11] <TheHighChild> tmdx120: did you download and install the drivers?
[06:12] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: nope I tried to use nsdwrapper first.
[06:12] <Set_> should I ask for more help, or tell you guys the install went great?
[06:12] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: where can I find the drivers?
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: ndiswrapper definately don't support accesspoint mode
[06:12] <TheHighChild> All ndiswrapper does is use the windows drivers. They have tux drivers for your card right here http://www.ralink.com.tw/supp-1.htm
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> But they are in the process of switching to the dreamscape wireless stack
[06:18] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I just got the rt2500 package from the repository. Is that wihat I need?
[06:18] <nekromaan> hi, im installing vmware http://rafb.net/paste/results/d4mHxH25.html, where do i get these c header files?
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: That won't work with hostapd
[06:19] <Howitzer> man
[06:20] <Howitzer> they should do something about the ubuntu-os podcasts
[06:20] <Hobbsee> nekromaan: likely build-essential
[06:20] <Hobbsee> !build-essential
[06:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[06:20] <Howitzer> they're boring and i can barely hear 'm :(
[06:21] <uniq> nekromaan: that would be 'kernel-headers-386' if you use the 386 kernel. 686 for 686 kernel, and so on.
[06:21] <nekromaan> Hobbsee, biuld-essential is installed
[06:21] <uniq> build-essential is for gcc and make and stuff.. you're missing the kernel-headers. not the compiler.
[06:21] <Hobbsee> ah
[06:21] <Hobbsee> yes, so it is
[06:22] <nekromaan> ah ok thx, ill try it
[06:27] <nekromaan> uniq, do i have to restart, no or? cause kernel-headers-386 are installed
[06:29] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, why should you ?
[06:31] <cps1966> has anyone got flightgear to work
[06:32] <DaSkreech> cps1966: how did you install?
[06:32] <cps1966> with apt
[06:33] <DaSkreech> And it doesn't work?
[06:33] <cps1966> nope
[06:33] <cps1966> no bin file
[06:33] <DaSkreech> What does it do?
[06:33] <TheFuzzball> what system specs do you need to run Kubuntu?
 i know that its not necessary, but which path do i have to give the vmware installer?
[06:33] <gatekeeper> Ohh it's nice to use a proper multi-tasking OS :-)
[06:33] <TheFuzzball> not Kubuntu, XGL :)
[06:34] <cps1966> DaSkreech: it does nothing
[06:34] <DaSkreech> A 3D type video card
[06:34] <DaSkreech> cps1966: How are you running it?
[06:34] <jaro> Hello.. How can I enable bootsplash again, and which program is needed to change it ???
[06:34] <cps1966> well tried several ways
[06:35] <gatekeeper> TheFuzzball: I have it on a test box using P3 128Mb RAM
[06:35] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  there is no menu entry
[06:36] <DaSkreech> cps1966: Go to the terminal and type flight<tab>
[06:36] <cps1966> yeah did that
[06:36] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, vmware ? path ? what are you trying to fo ?
[06:36] <|lostbyte|> do*
[06:37] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  its on my sons machine so i have to run back and forth
[06:37] <GullyFoyle> what's a good text-mode, i.e., console email client?
[06:37] <nekromaan> ok, there are only 2.5.27-386 headers, but i need the 2.6.15-386, there are no in the repos :/
[06:38] <cps1966> no entry for flight DaSkreech
[06:38] <MrObvious> nekromaan: Sounds like your sources.list is messed up
[06:38] <MrObvious> cps1966: cd / && sudo find | grep flight
[06:39] <DaSkreech> cps1966: You used adept to install?
[06:39] <cps1966> no synaptic
[06:39] <jaro> Hello.. How can I enable bootsplash again, and which program is needed to change it ???
[06:39] <DaSkreech> Ah I think that synaptic has an installed files as well
[06:40] <DaSkreech> cps1966: Give me one second
[06:40] <cps1966> k
[06:40] <nekromaan> MrObvious, can you plz give me yours?
[06:42] <MrObvious> No, it's on the other computer when it's booted to winblows. And I haven't installed anything to read ext3
[06:42] <MrObvious> Sorry
[06:42] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=545.0
[06:42] <DaSkreech> cps1966: Right click FlightGear -> Properties -> Installed files -> grep for /usr/bin/*something*
[06:43] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: Use that one.  It's got lots of good stuff in it and even has all the gpg key commands at the bottom for importing the keys
[06:43] <MrObvious> Hawkwind: Whoa I haven't seen that yet as I haven't been on Dapper lol
[06:43] <MrObvious> That's huge and nice!
[06:44] <nekromaan> Hawkwind, thats a nice long one ;)
[06:44] <DaSkreech> cps1966: fg perhaps?
[06:44] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: Heh.  It works very well
[06:44] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  there is no bin file listed in properties
[06:45] <DaSkreech> What are you looking for?
[06:45] <cps1966> in synaptic it show installed files
[06:45] <r0xz> is there a way to undo the mess msttcorefonts delivers?
[06:45] <DaSkreech> Right
[06:46] <pietro_> hi guys... i have still problems with my soundcard... i've spent all the day trying! :(
[06:46] <nekromaan> hawkwind, those gpg doesnt work :/
[06:46] <pietro_> it's an ensoniq es1371
[06:46] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: They should.  They worked here
[06:46] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: What is not working about them ?
[06:46] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  it does same thing in mdv
[06:47] <DaSkreech> mdv?
[06:47] <cps1966> mandriva
[06:47] <nekromaan> hawkwind http://rafb.net/paste/results/R8P1HE37.html
[06:47] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:47] <DaSkreech> There is no entry for /bin or /usr/bin?
[06:48] <cps1966> nope
[06:48] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: Create the ~/.gnupg directory on your system if you don't have one already
[06:48] <nekromaan> Hawkwind, there is one created
[06:49] <DaSkreech> cps1966: can you pastebin the list of files?
[06:49] <nekromaan> Hawkwind, i made chmod 777, but he says that he can receive the key: common error :/
[06:49] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: I just ran the exact command you did and it worked fine
[06:50] <nekromaan> cant
[06:50] <stevejesus_> so, how do I refresh the kmenu entries without restarting kde (easily)
[06:50] <Firebird8> how do you change the login screen theme?
[06:50] <Hawkwind> nekromaan: Do you have a .gnupg directory in your root directory ?
[06:51] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  i found it in /usr/share/menu
[06:51] <nekromaan> hawkwind no in the home
[06:51] <stevejesus_> looking for a way to refresh the Kmenu without logging out
[06:51] <DaSkreech> cps1966: It works?
[06:52] <cps1966> but it has no menu entry
[06:52] <DaSkreech> stevejesus_: Right click the KMenu -> Menu Editor -> Save -> quit
[06:52] <cps1966> fgfs works
[06:52] <stevejesus_> DaSkreech, is there a command?
[06:52] <DaSkreech> ah :-)
[06:52] <DaSkreech> FlightGearFlightSimulator of course
[06:53] <DaSkreech> stevejesus_: Not that I know of.
[06:53] <stevejesus_> DaSkreech, im looking for a command so I can make a button for it
[06:53] <DaSkreech> try see if the menu editor has a cli switch
[06:53] <DaSkreech> like --refresh
[06:53] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  spoke to soon it quit already
[06:53] <stevejesus_> DaSkreech, well is there a command to start the menu editor?  that way I can watch the terminal output
[06:53] <DaSkreech> cps1966: Did you get a error on the command line?
[06:54] <cps1966> yes
[06:54] <cps1966> have to go look
[06:54] <nekromaan> hawkwind, but after update without gpg he finds the 2.4.27 kernel headers again
[06:54] <DaSkreech> stevejesus_: kmenuedit
[06:55] <stevejesus_> DaSkreech, thank you:)
[06:56] <ze4502us> anyone know how to get kmail to decrypt email?
[06:57] <nekromaan>  <MrObvious> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-header&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all
[06:57] <Firebird8> so can anyone tell me how to change the login screen theme?
[06:57] <stevejesus_> now for the fun part, i want to start multiple x sessions, but in KDE I cant use the usual "alt+F$"
[06:58] <stevejesus_> How else would I do this?
[06:58] <Firebird8> :|
[07:00] <Tommy2k4> what ssh client can i use
[07:01] <zorglu1> ssh is good :)
[07:01] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  ok i'mon his machine now
[07:01] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Hello :)
[07:01] <Hawkwind> geneo93: You hacker you!
[07:02] <Hawkwind> Heh
[07:02] <geneo93> well had to pull off some funny things to get logged in here
[07:03] <geneo93> ok DaSkreech back to flightgear
[07:04] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17102
[07:05] <RogueX> OK, Does anyone know how to install a KDE theme?
[07:08] <|lostbyte|> how do i remove that google search engine from konq ?
[07:09] <raytray25> is there a way i can turn off autocomplete in konversation?
[07:14] <junx> alright, I'm having problems adding a printer via the system settings module
[07:15] <junx> if I try to add a printer (even via kdesu), the "Local printer (parallel, serial, USB)" option is greyed out
[07:15] <junx> so, I essentially cannot add a local printer
[07:16] <gatekeeper> trying to backup ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail and knode to a single tar, every combination of parameters that I use to fail, can anyone please give the correct syntax please?
[07:16] <junx> and the web interface (localhost:631) doesn't allow for editting of pretty much anything useful due to some security oopsies
[07:16] <junx> gatekeeper: tar -czf file.tar.gz list of files
[07:16] <Hawkwind> gatekeeper: Tar them seperately then combine the two tar files
 right click on it and "select search engines"
[07:17] <gatekeeper> cheers folks :-)
[07:18] <gatekeeper> feel a script coming on :-)
[07:18] <junx> gatekeeper: ironically, I do that for my mail, too (Thunderbird, but it's in maildir format anyways)
[07:19] <gatekeeper> cool :-)
[07:19] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, then ?
[07:19] <junx> check out date(1) for adding in more information to the file name
 then deslect google, accept it, take an other search engine as standard search engine and restart konqueror
[07:22] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, thanks, No, it was the list at the bottom.. there is also a none option,.. had to restart konq to take effect.. thanks..
 no problem, does video files on hp work in you konqueror?
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, also, do you use the middle click mouse to paste ?
[07:23] <raytray25> is there a way i can turn off autocomplete in konquerer?
[07:23] <|lostbyte|> nekromaan, hp..
 no i do not use the middle mouse button?
[07:24] <|lostbyte|> raytray25, autocompletion is usally the drop down list..
[07:24] <raytray25> yes, is there a way to turn it off?
[07:24] <junx> if you want a service to listen on all IP addresses, do you use 0.0.0.0?
[07:25] <junx> e.g. for the Listen configuration in Apache or CUPS
[07:25] <|lostbyte|> raphink, right click in text bar > text completion > none.
[07:25] <raphink> hmpf
[07:25] <|lostbyte|> junx, no ! 255.255.255.255
[07:25] <junx> thanks
[07:26] <|lostbyte|> raphink, hnpf ?
[07:26] <|lostbyte|> m*
[07:26] <junx> uh, that doesn't work, |lostbyte|
[07:26] <junx> isn't there a way to listen on a subnet?
[07:26] <junx> e.g. Listen 192.168.1.0/24:631
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> junx, configure konqueror > web behavious > enable completiton of forms ( untick )
[07:27] <junx> |lostbyte|: wrong person
[07:27] <|lostbyte|> opps
[07:27] <junx> using konversation?
[07:28] <|lostbyte|> junx, ohh ! for that its.. 255.255.255.0
[07:28] <|lostbyte|> depending on the class your using..
[07:28] <junx> a /24 network
[07:28] <junx> so yeah, 255.255.255.0 seems to make sense
[07:29] <junx> ...and it still doesn't work (I'm talking about the cupsd.conf syntax right now)
[07:30] <p0mppu> is there some problem with GCC? configure is telling me gcc can't produce executables :/
[07:30] <junx> |lostbyte|: nevermind, I can just specify multiple hosts with the same port
[07:30] <|lostbyte|> junx, i am sure about 255.255.255.0, ok..
[07:31] <zorglu1> junx, what do you wanna do ?
[07:31] <junx> Listen 255.255.255.0:631 does not work
[07:32] <junx> okay, this is annoying me, however
[07:32] <junx> the system settings printers module won't let me add local printers
[07:32] <bearchit> Hi~
[07:33] <zorglu1> junx: what is the relationship with the listening address ?
[07:33] <bearchit> Who is anybody here?
[07:33] <BKaj> RogueX , I'm DLing the 32bit vers of dapper as we speak  :)...prolly take 2-3 hrs via utorrent
[07:33] <junx> zorglu1: nothing anymore
[07:33] <zorglu1> ok
[07:33] <nekromaan> where is the error http://rafb.net/paste/results/tbOZSR27.html?
[07:33] <junx> I'm trying to set up a local printer on CUPS with the capabilities of being accessed within my 192.168.1.0/24 network
[07:33] <RogueX> BKaj: Sounds good.  It should work better for you.
[07:34] <BKaj> BBL , gonna watch "Call for Help"
[07:34] <nekromaan> http://rafb.net/paste/results/tbOZSR27.html
[07:34] <p0mppu> please, has anyone got a working gcc ?
[07:34] <BKaj> I hope so  RogueX  :)
[07:34] <junx> p0mppu: apt-get install gcc binutils
[07:34] <junx> or is that one not working? o_O
[07:35] <ziza> hey ppl: what app would you recommend for manipulating mp3-files? for example, increasing the volume, or cutting off specific frequencies...
[07:35] <junx> ziza: audacity
[07:35] <nico8481> someone knows how do wireless speakers work in general? bluetooth?
[07:35] <ziza> junx: thx, 'll have a look at it
[07:35] <RogueX> So anyone know how to install KDE themes?
[07:35] <junx> ziza: or you might be able to do that dynamically with replaygain
[07:36] <zorglu1> junk, you listen on 0.0.0.0, make sure the firewall of the box which connect the printer all the connection to enter, if needed you config your /etc/hosts.allow to limit the box connecting to the ip range you wish
[07:36] <apokryphos> RogueX: it's often a better idea to install the parts individually (style, window decoration, colour scheme) instead of going for the full KDE theme
[07:36] <eXCeSS> when isntalling, is there any reaosn not to make the mount point / have all of your hd, or is it better to split it up?
[07:37] <p0mppu> junx, I already seem to have the newest versions of gcc and binutils
[07:37] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: definitely better to split it up into / and /home at least
[07:37] <ubuntu> eXceSS: depends what you want to do..
[07:37] <p0mppu> any ideas?
[07:37] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: give / around 7/8 gigs, and everything else to /home
[07:37] <ubuntu> I would also make a /boot
[07:37] <alteroo> hello
[07:37] <eXCeSS> whats /boot, sorry im a newjack lol
[07:38] <DaSkreech> alteroo: Quiet!!!
[07:38] <Hawkwind> Or if you have tons of space, like I do with 650GB, split it up in many partitions :)
[07:38] <apokryphos> I've never found the need to have one, but hey
[07:38] <sja> why so much to /home?  I use /usr/local/bin or /opt for programs ... so need lots of space
[07:38] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: it's where the boot-loader information is and where it's installed
[07:38] <uniq> i've never found a need for /boot either.
[07:38] <apokryphos> sja: because /home will have all your files
[07:38] <ubuntu> eXCeSS: /boot keeps your kernels and boot configs
[07:38] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  did you get that paste
[07:38] <uniq> sja: 7-8 gigs should be enought for most programs.
[07:39] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Sorry went to have lunch
[07:39] <apokryphos> sja: your programs will generally only take a fixed amount of space, /home can have, well, anything.
[07:39] <Hawkwind> I created a /boot partition years ago and have always stuck with it.  It's just one of those things that is a habit and it's hard to break
[07:39] <eXCeSS> oh, i just find it easier to just have everything on / so i wont potentially run out of space and they can share
[07:39] <sja> Single user here ... I'd rather now have my /home dir "cluttered"
[07:39] <apokryphos> ubuntu: but why have it on a seperate partition?
[07:39] <gatekeeper> linux is everso good just saved me from myself :-)
[07:39] <uniq> i would recommend /tmp on its own partition before /boot.
[07:39] <apokryphos> sja: cluttered, huh?
[07:39] <sja> rather have /home UNcluttered
[07:39] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: it's *definitely* a good idea to have /home though, seriously
[07:40] <cps1966> DaSkreech:  look here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17102
[07:40] <eXCeSS> so how much should everything else get
[07:40] <ubuntu> apokryphos: I prefer it, because it's easier to handle more than one linux distri...
[07:40] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: if you blow your system, and have to reboot, you will keep *all* your files, configurations, user-specific settings etc
[07:40] <Hawkwind> I keep my /home very clean.  I have less than 2GB of info in /home.  But I also have 12 partitions and 650GB of space to play with and keep things organized
[07:40] <alteroo> how do u utilize different language input methods in Kate or Open Office????
[07:40] <apokryphos> ubuntu: how?
[07:40] <eXCeSS> is like 10 gigs enough for /
[07:40] <Hawkwind> eXCeSS: Sure
[07:40] <DaSkreech> RogueX: it should be on the site you downloaded it from
[07:40] <apokryphos> Hawkwind: I always find that when I have too many partitions a lot of space goes to waste
[07:40] <junx> oh yeah: NEVER put /bin, /sbin, /lib, /etc, /dev, /mnt, [/proc, or /sys]  on their own partitions
[07:41] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: should be more than enough, yes.
[07:41] <RogueX> Wait I didnt think things like menu mods were saved in home?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> cps1966: Yes
[07:41] <junx>  /proc and /sys are pseudo-filesystems anyhow, so don't worry about them
[07:41] <apokryphos> junx: I see no reason to NEVER do it
[07:41] <eXCeSS> so basically like 10g for / and then i can give like the rest of the 64 to /home/ ?
[07:41] <DaSkreech> cps1966: You have a sound card issue?
[07:41] <apokryphos> eXCeSS: correct
[07:41] <cps1966> no it works fine
[07:41] <p0mppu> which packages do I need to get to have glibc and libc?
[07:41] <Hawkwind> apokryphos: I have plenty of spare space, but I also have used a ton of it.  I have over 200GB of music alone :)
[07:41] <junx> apokryphos: they're eseential for basic system functionality, and Ubuntu doesn't work if you put /etc in its own partition
[07:42] <ubuntu> apokryphos: I just use about 50 mb for /boot and you have one menu.lst for all the distris you have on a disk
[07:42] <eXCeSS> i just was wondering if i was doind anything wrong because im getting my laptop soon and my goal is to use linux all throughout college
[07:42] <eXCeSS> thanks guys :)
[07:42] <alteroo> how do u utilize different language input methods in Kate or Open Office without changing the system language????
[07:42] <apokryphos> junx: for Ubuntu actually, I could see why yes.
[07:42] <junx> skim?
[07:42] <junx> apokryphos: why is that?
[07:42] <claydoh> lol there you go
[07:42] <ubuntu> apokrypos: but it's a question of taste... just learned it that way when playing aroung with gentoo
[07:42] <apokryphos> ubuntu: but you don't need a /boot to do that. I have only one menu.lst that's used, too.
[07:43] <DaSkreech> cps1966: are you playing music now?
[07:43] <alteroo> skim...
[07:43] <cps1966> no
[07:43] <junx> alteroo: it's the KDE input thinger
[07:43] <apokryphos> junx: since when it boots up it gets the relevant partitions it needs to mount from fstab, which is in /etc
[07:43] <DaSkreech> cps1966: But it says the soundcard is busy?
[07:43] <cps1966> no sound being used
[07:43] <p0mppu> oh man, I don't seem to have glibc nor libc in any reposity..?
[07:43] <p0mppu> which reposity ought to include them?
[07:43] <junx> apokryphos: right, but is it possible to have /etc in its own partition?
[07:43] <ubuntu> apokrypos: yes. I believe. but if you wipe away the distri which holds the true "boot" dir.. you're in trouble...
[07:43] <DaSkreech> cps1966: and you can play music/sounds/pings fine?
[07:43] <junx> because you have sysinit there as well...
[07:44] <alteroo> kool
[07:44] <cps1966> leme check
[07:44] <ubuntu> apokrypos: whith an extra partition, you don't have this problems
[07:44] <junx> putting /boot and /home in their own partitions is usually a good idea
[07:44] <geneo93> ok i'm over here now dask
[07:44] <uniq> you can have a 'fake' etc on the root partition and mount a new /etc over the one on the root filesystem.
[07:45] <junx> I once made an elaborate partition scheme, but the limitations of sysvinit didn't allow me to put /etc on its own partition :(
[07:45] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  its this box
[07:45] <ubuntu> anyone ever resized a reiserfs partition with the kubuntu live_cd?
[07:45] <apokryphos> ubuntu: interesting. I've always had one main system so that hasn't been an issue, I see how it could help though.
[07:45] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Right
[07:45] <uniq> Can be useful if you use crypted filesystems.
[07:45] <apokryphos> uniq: I guess that would work, yeah.
[07:45] <|lostbyte|> what are scheme files in xgl ?
[07:45] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: you sure you don't mean compiz?
[07:46] <ubuntu> apokryphos: give it a try :-)
[07:46] <DaSkreech> geneo93: And you can hear music?
[07:46] <apokryphos> I'll bear that in mind next time, sure
[07:47] <junx> alright, now how do I add a local printer when cups doesn't seem to know what a local printer is?
[07:47] <DaSkreech> alteroo: Any insight?
[07:47] <alteroo> nope
[07:47] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, yes ! compiz
[07:47] <alteroo> i dont c how 2 add the language ime in skim
[07:47] <thompa> i have libcairo2 upgradable, but it wont upgrade it?
[07:47] <|lostbyte|> :)
[07:47] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: just gconf-editor stuff I think
[07:47] <Blissex> junx: a local printer is either a parallel port or USB printer... lots of CUPS config tutorials around.
[07:47] <gatekeeper> junx: you are using the wizzard aren't you?
[07:48] <uniq> alteroo: sorry, i don't know much about skim.
[07:48] <apokryphos> we use ~/.kde/share/config or apps/, they have gconf-editor
[07:48] <DaSkreech> thompa: You too? You have Firefox?
[07:48] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, ahh ! files that make changes to that registary right ?
[07:48] <alteroo> or is it that i hav 2 installed and skim just manages
[07:48] <thompa> yes
[07:48] <junx> I tried using the wizard, but local printer is greyed out
[07:48] <thompa> DaSkreech: is it firefox related, ?
[07:48] <gatekeeper> lpt1 ?
[07:48] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: it has some settings for the application (in this case compiz), yeah.
[07:48] <thompa> I also run compiz xgl
[07:48] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: though last time I tried to manually play with the settings I found it to be a total mess
[07:48] <DaSkreech> I think so It's my theory
[07:48] <gatekeeper> LPT1 greyed out?
[07:49] <junx> the KDE wizard has local printer altogether greyed out
[07:49] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, yeah ! thats there.. but its not complete in its self.. this so much missing..
[07:49] <junx> and the localhost:631 interface won't let me do anything administrative
[07:49] <geneo93> DaSkreech:  this has two sound cards on onboard and one 24 bit sblive
[07:49] <junx> won't even accept my root password
[07:49] <junx> nor my user password (I'm in lpadmin)
[07:49] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, do you know a place i could read its complete documentation ?
[07:50] <gatekeeper> junx: I'm impressed
[07:50] <apokryphos> junx: root or user?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Ah. What's the default one?
[07:50] <junx> apokryphos: both
[07:50] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: that's gnome/gtk stuff, no idea I'm afraid.
[07:50] <geneo93> should be the 24 bit
[07:50] <DaSkreech> geneo93: What is your default one?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> ok
[07:50] <apokryphos> junx: cups is quite broken in dapper, they forced in an svn version. Let me get you alink that might help
[07:50] <junx> that explains it...
[07:50] <junx> thanks, apokryphos
[07:51] <uniq> junx: I won't try to cover this up. CUPS is fubar in dapper, printing is semi-broken.
[07:51] <junx> when did it happen, and why wasn't dapper delayed a bit longer to fix it?
[07:51] <apokryphos> junx: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/418
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Can You check under KMenu -> System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System
[07:51] <junx> as many slashbots say, grandma can't use a broken cupsys
[07:51] <apokryphos> junx: read even more further down for the full explanation of what's wrong.
[07:51] <junx> k
[07:51] <apokryphos> junx: indeed
[07:51] <gatekeeper> junx: does lshw tell you anything usefull?
[07:52] <uniq> ubuntu: because only KDE has problems, as far as i know. Ubuntu release doesn't wait for Kubuntu fixes.
[07:52] <junx> whoa, gimme a minute to look through it
[07:52] <uniq> I have debian cups packages somewhere..
[07:52] <uniq> that's what I use.
[07:52] <apokryphos> junx: that guy did a whole saga of how it mucked up cups (day 1, day 2, etc). Bit of a rant, but not unjustified at all, and it's not meaningless talk. The guy knows his stuff
[07:53] <apokryphos> uniq: really? I thought the problem was with both
[07:53] <thompa> so what do we do with the cairo update?
[07:53] <junx> man, I don't know if lshw is showing me anything useful
[07:54] <apokryphos> uniq: the way it's packaged seems to be quite a mess, too, pipitas says.
[07:54] <uniq> apokryphos: Well, I don't use gnome, but It wouldn't surprise me if it is borken in gnome too.
[07:54] <ibert> so. noone ever resized a reiserfs?
[07:54] <uniq> apokryphos: I know,I've given up and recompiled the debian cups for my machines.
[07:55] <junx> ibert: I've never resized any partition due to the fud behind doing it :P
[07:55] <apokryphos> uniq: I think they've learnt for edgy ;-)
[07:55] <uniq> apokryphos: lets hope so.
[07:55] <D4m4ge> hi all
[07:55] <|lostbyte|> what are button[n]  in compiz ?
[07:55] <apokryphos> that blog got a lot of publicity (i.e. google for dapper cups)
[07:55] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, ^^
[07:55] <|lostbyte|> usually set for shortcut keys..
[07:55] <junx> man, and I thought that sticking with Sid was bad for my health when it came to things randomly breaking... this is insane
[07:55] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: where do you see that? Not sure.
[07:56] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, gconf-editot.
[07:56] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, gconf-editotr
[07:56] <|lostbyte|> argh !! gconf-editor
[07:56] <apokryphos> junx: it does indeed suck, but it is more-or-less the only large problem I've seen in dapper (apart from the bad artwork :P)
[07:56] <ibert> junx: my motivation is: getting kubuntu on my disk :-)
[07:56] <apokryphos> I know that sucks, but at least there aren't *too* many things.
[07:57] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: where under, specifically?
[07:57] <junx> I know, I've been impressed by how good Dapper has come along, but this cups thing is annoying
[07:57] <Janitux> !google boot parameters to not load a module
[07:57] <ubotu> I know nothing about google boot parameters to not load a module
[07:57] <Janitux> :(
[07:57] <gatekeeper> junx: damn tells you everything except printers sorry :-(
[07:58] <GullyFoyle> has anyone tried freenode over ipv6? it wouldn't connect for me.
[07:58] <GullyFoyle> but i am currently connected to EFnet over  ipv6 so i know it works on my end
[07:58] <uniq> gullyfoyle: haven't tried lately. Worked a few months ago.
[07:59] <GullyFoyle> i tried /connect ipv6.chat.freenode.net
[07:59] <GullyFoyle> wouldnt connect
[08:00] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, /apps/compiz/general/allscreens/options/active_plugins
[08:00] <apokryphos> kubuntu's implementation of it caused loopback traffic, which snort finds offensive (which the people at my Uni seemed to be using for automatic bans ;-) )
[08:00] <|lostbyte|> apokryphos, Its almost in every dir..
[08:01] <cold> how do you change your X settings if you changed ur monitor ? x86config doesn't work
[08:01] <DaSkreech> geneo93: Can You check under KMenu -> System Settings -> Sound & Multimedia -> Sound System
[08:01] <DaSkreech> geneo93: This box is Ubuntu isn't it? :)
[08:02] <sja> my adsl modem/router doesn't support ipv6 ... I have to disable ipv6 in Firefox and Thunderbird to get them to go online
[08:02] <apokryphos> |lostbyte|: no idea what you mean by button though
[08:02] <apokryphos> cold: check the FAQ
[08:03] <cold> k
[08:04] <junx> wow, all I needed to do was adduser cupsys shadow? hmm
[08:04] <geneo91> ok i'll give it a go now
[08:04] <uniq> junx: yeah, that's one of the fixes.
[08:04] <gatekeeper> junx: where did you do that?
[08:04] <|lostbyte|> ok
[08:05] <ze4502us> hi everyone
[08:05] <GBoS> hey
[08:06] <ze4502us> do any of you know how to get krdc to work
[08:06] <ze4502us> running dapper here and iget a message saying that it isn't installed correctly
[08:07] <junx> now that I can edit crap via the web interface, I need to get CUPS to recognise that I have local printers
[08:09] <geneo91> ok its somewhat working now DaSkreech
[08:10] <geneo91> dask he can sort it out from here
[08:10] <Henk> Hi, i've just installed a better grafics card (nvidea 6600/256MB) and I want to install that properly and run XGL on dapper. any good tutorials on that somewhere?
[08:10] <geneo91> dask thx
[08:10] <junx> alright, which Device type means "local USB printer"?  argh
[08:10] <Blissex> Henk: pointless.
[08:11] <Henk> Blissex, ?
[08:11] <junx> appsocket/hp jetdirect, backend error handler, bluetooth printer (doubful), hp no_device_found (doubtful), IPP via HTTP, IPP via IPP, LPD/LPR, or via SAMBA (doubtful)
[08:12] <Blissex> Henk: also, find an XGL install tutorial and check which VGA chipsets are supported for that on released sw...
[08:12] <guest> hi can someone help me solv a problem
[08:12] <ibert> guest: tell us what it is
[08:13] <DaSkreech> geneo91: OK Happy Flying :)
[08:13] <Henk> Blissex, why is it pointless?
[08:15] <guest> iv done a basic install with kde-desktop using aptitude install kde-core kdebase kdm and x-window-core  when comp reboots iv a logon screen  i use usert name and password  to login this dissapears  and im left with a blank blue desktop and a cursror ?
[08:15] <Blissex> junx: here I got LPT, 2 parallel ports and 2 serial ports too. It looks like you have not loaded the USB LP driver or created the USB LP dev entries
[08:15] <Blissex> Henk: you'll see :-).
[08:15] <gatekeeper> junx: best guess and it is a guess LPD/LPR
[08:16] <flashpc> can someone tell me how to set varibales like tab-width in kate?
[08:16] <Henk> Blissex, what is released sw...?
[08:17] <Blissex> guest: thats a bit unfortunate and recovering may not be terribly easy. But try to log-in with ''recovery'' method and then type 'startkde'
[08:17] <junx> argh, I could shoot myself; I didn't plug the damn thing in
[08:17] <gatekeeper> junx: my money is on what Blissex said
[08:17] <guest> cool ..
[08:17] <Blissex> Henk: ''released'' means that it has been sort of tested and packaged, instead of being in-progress
[08:17] <sja> flashpc - Settings->Configure Kate->Edition
[08:17] <Blissex> junx: please go ahead, in the foot preferably :-)
[08:18] <ibert> anyone knows a live-CD where reiserfs_resize is included?
[08:18] <crimsun> knoppix?
[08:18] <crimsun> kubuntu?
[08:18] <Henk> Blissex, I dont care if it works 'beta' like , Its bound to be better than the old radeon 9100 that crashed if i moved screen too fast ;)
[08:18] <sja> guest -- next time install kubuntu-desktop instead
[08:18] <ibert> kubuntu: no
[08:18] <crimsun> then try knoppix
[08:18] <flashpc> sja: i don't see an edition menu option
[08:19] <Blissex> Henk: actually for things like AIGLX and XGL a 9100 is better and more reliable than a 6600GT.
[08:19] <Blissex> Henk: the 6600GT is much better for playing games though.
[08:19] <flashpc> sja: do you mean editing? i don't see an option there for setting variables
[08:19] <Henk> Blissex, believe me my radeon 9100 cannot even do fglrxgears
[08:20] <sja> flashpc -> go to Settings->Toolbars and make sure you have the main toolbar selected
[08:20] <junx> alright, what colour profile is the CMYK with light cyan and light magenta added?
[08:20] <flashpc> sja: yes the man toolbar is there and enabled
[08:20] <Henk> Blissex, and it was even worth with the official drivers
[08:21] <Henk> anyway thanx for the help...
[08:21] <ibert> crimsun: my fault - resize_reiserfs is the name, not reiserfs_resize :-)
[08:21] <uniq> ibert: did you try sysresccd.org ?
[08:21] <ibert> uniq: have it already.... resize_reiserfs
[08:21] <sja> flashpc -> then select Settings->Configure Kate ... on the left side, under Editor, there is an Editing item ... that's what you use to configure tabs
[08:22] <Henk> anyone else that *is* willing/able to point me to a good place to read about installing XGL+kubuntu+nvidea?
[08:22] <Blissex> Henk: the 9100 does not work well with 'fglrx' but works pretty well with the official 'radeon' driver in DRI mode.
[08:22] <flashpc> thanks ... how do i turn off the ` charater that it draws where the tabs are?
[08:23] <flashpc> i got it
[08:23] <flashpc> turn off tabularors
[08:23] <flashpc> ty!
[08:23] <sja> sure
[08:23] <gatekeeper> Henk: is this any help? http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Xgl.2FCompiz_.28Nvidia.29
[08:24] <Henk> Blissex, no mine does not, it totaly fucks up the display giving lots of beautifull colours that apart from being nicely pshycadelic have no real use ;)
[08:24] <junx> yay, it all works now
[08:24] <junx> just had to plug it in and add cupsys to the shadow group
[08:24] <junx> thanks for the help and the link
[08:24] <ibert> gatekeeper: Does XGL work with kde?
[08:25] <gatekeeper> ibert: never used it so I couldn't say presume so
[08:25] <gatekeeper> junx: well done :-)
[08:26] <SkrotFFS> XGL works with KDE. Compiz however is not fully supported. Afaik you still need to use gnome window decoration.
[08:26] <Henk> gatekeeper, ah yes and it also points to ubuntuforums wich seems nice thnx
[08:26] <junx> now to see if OSX's version of cups is crippled or not (hopefully not or my sister is gonna be pissed again)
[08:26] <gatekeeper> Henk: hope you get there :-)
[08:26] <uniq> junx: i think it is.
[08:27] <jerry> hi
[08:29] <Henk> gatekeeper, thnx
[08:29] <gatekeeper> Henk: you are welcome :-)
[08:31] <jyogi> hello
[08:35] <ibert> good night girls&guys....
[08:35] <jyogi> I have little questiom. I'm new in using kubuntu (hmm linux in general is new to me). I wan't to start a www on my pc, the question is what packages should I install to have it working, I would also would like to have mysql and php.
[08:35] <crimsun> !lamp
[08:35] <ubotu> lamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[08:38] <theine> Hi, I noticed that Konqueror from KDE 3.5.3 has serious difficulties displaying http://digg.com properly. Does anybody know how to make it work?
[08:39] <uniq> hmm.. checking.
[08:40] <jerry1> I have a question
[08:41] <uniq> shoot.
[08:41] <jerry1> I registered a channel
[08:41] <jerry1> and I want to make it so that someone else owns the channel
[08:42] <sja> theine -> It appears to work for me (using Konqueror 3.5.2) ... but a better solution might be to use Firefox for browsing
[08:42] <jacob> hey is it just me, or is krandrtray kompletly broken in kubuntu?
[08:43] <uniq> theine: i can confirm it doesn't work properly in konqueror 3.5.3.
[08:43] <uniq> only the searchbar on top is visible.
[08:43] <theine> uniq: yes
[08:43] <ubuntu> hi all. I need your help...
[08:44] <theine> uniq: I guess I need to file a bug report
[08:44] <uniq> theine: please do.
[08:44] <jacob> can anyone running kubuntu get krandrtray to work?
[08:44] <ubuntu> ...I am running the live kubuntu cd, and i need to mount the underlying /dev/sda1 How can I do that?
[08:45] <theine> ubuntu: are you sure it's not mounted already?
[08:47] <ubuntu> theine: it is not. I try: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /home/ubuntu/a/  but it doesn't work
[08:48] <theine> ubuntu: try leaving "-t ext3" away
[08:48] <ubuntu> theine: hmm (I'm an idiot) i wanted sda7 and not 1. ok it's mounted
[08:50] <ubuntu> theine: but the real problem persists:
[08:51] <ubuntu> in fstab I put "...,utf8,..." where it seems that I should have put "...,nls=utf8,...". and it also has "errors=remount-ro". so i cant's change it!!!! :-(
[08:51] <uniq> you can't change what?
[08:51] <uniq> you can change fstab.
[08:52] <ubuntu> fstab
[08:52] <ubuntu> ok. how?
[08:52] <uniq> sudo kate /etc/fstab
[08:54] <ubuntu> uniq: ahem. I am now running from the *live* cd. i installed kububtu in /dev/sda7, and made a mistake in the options in /etc/fstab in /dev/sda7 and it has an option that if it has errors, it mounts ro. so i can't change it
[08:55] <hareem> i have kubuntu how can i activate the universal and multiverse libs
[08:55] <unix_infidel> !sources
[08:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:55] <uniq> ubuntu: i understand. but the fstab from the installed version doesn't affect anything you do from the livecd.
[08:56] <uniq> ubuntu: if you can mount it you can change fstab.
[08:56] <theine> ubuntu: the fstab file in your kubuntu installation under /dev/sda7 should not have any effect when you mount /dev/sda7 from the live CD
[08:57] <unix_infidel> i wish you could specify where to mount /home in the live cd :)
[08:57] <unix_infidel> for the live cd session only...
[08:57] <theine> ubuntu: maybe "sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda7 /home/ubuntu/a"?
[08:57] <D4m4ge> juste a stupid question, where do the names "universe" and "multiverse" come from?
[08:57] <unix_infidel> that way all the config files would be there.
[08:58] <Sansana> hi
[08:58] <unix_infidel> D4m4ge: my best guess would be....like.
[08:58] <uniq> ubuntu: you can make a script and put in your /home. to mount it to wherever you want :)
[08:58] <unix_infidel> african tribal gods.
[08:58] <D4m4ge> lol
[08:58] <ubuntu> uniq: indeed...now i do "sudo kate" and it says: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server   Xlib: No protocol specified"
[08:58] <theine> unix_infidel: yes, that would be nice, but you can of course do it manually
[08:59] <theine> unix_infidel: ... after you booted into the live CD environment
[08:59] <unix_infidel> theine: yea, i suppose...
[08:59] <unix_infidel> but its a pain, i wish you could build your own custom live cd that had specific parameters embedded.
[08:59] <uniq> ubuntu: without sudo type run this command: 'xhost local:'
[08:59] <we6jbo> funtimes
[08:59] <uniq> ubuntu: then try again.
[08:59] <theine> unix_infidel: I think Ubuntu actually provides tools for doing that
[09:00] <uniq> unix_infidel: you can. that's the great fun with open source software :)
[09:00] <unix_infidel> got some URLs for me?
[09:00] <ubuntu> uniq: thanks! :-)
[09:00] <unix_infidel> or are you just talking about the unatteded iso?
[09:00] <uniq> unix_infidel: http://files.akl.lt/Linux/Ubuntu/custom-dapper-livecd.htm
[09:01] <theine> ubuntu: otherwise, you can also try "sudo nano -w /etc/fstab", that runs in the terminal and works without a connection to the X server
[09:01] <unix_infidel> uniq: cool, i'll check then out when i get my mouse back.
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> unix_infidel: Its not very difficult to make your own live cd (took me 4 or 5 hourse with no docs)
[09:01] <ubuntu> uniq: in fstab, i should put ",nls=utf8,"  instead of ",utf8". correct?
[09:01] <uniq> ubuntu: what filesystem is this?
[09:01] <flashpc> so uhm .. i think all my desktop icons in kde are svg based ... right? so if they are where are the svgs located and can i add my own to the repository?
[09:01] <unix_infidel> i'm surprised no one registered the ubuntu nick yet.
[09:01] <ubuntu> uniq: etx3
[09:02] <ubuntu> uniq: ext3
[09:02] <theine> ubuntu: try not specifying any non-default options at all
[09:02] <theine> ubuntu: just "defaults,errors=remount-ro"
[09:03] <uniq> ubuntu: then you don't need to set charset in fstab. nls is for ntfs and such.
[09:03] <ubuntu> theine: the problem is, i can't see non english characters in my filenames
[09:03] <uniq> ubuntu: still not a filesystem problem. It's a locale problem.
[09:04] <theine> ubuntu: is this a fresh Dapper install or have you upgraded from breezy/hoary?
[09:05] <Zaire> anyone in here know the line you have to enter into the xorg to disable the Nvidia logo?
[09:05] <ubuntu> theine: fresh dapper. it's a mandriva "files" partition that i want to use
[09:05] <uniq> ubuntu: get your fstab back to normal and start your installed system. Then install the package 'localeconf'. and if it doesn't prompt you directly after installation, run this command: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow localeconf' to configure locales on the system.
[09:06] <junx> lovely; it was braindead simple to get the printer working over the network via Kubuntu, but I still can't figure out how the crap to do it in OSX
[09:06] <junx> oh well
[09:06] <junx> quote me on that if you need advertising
[09:06] <theine> ubuntu: ok, but you can have non-english characters for files on partitions other than the mandriva one?
[09:07] <jacob> kan anyone hear me?
[09:07] <uniq> ubuntu: ah.. your mandriva must have used a different charset. Either rename all files (basically fixing the broken chars, replacing them with new ones or change the locale as i explained in my last message.
[09:07] <arso> wat up
[09:07] <Zaire> its text chat so nopes can't hear ya lol
[09:08] <ubuntu> theine: i don't know. everything else has been formatted to oblivion :-)
[09:08] <bam_> anyone playing stratagus? I am tring to get the warcraft 2 data to work, keeps giving me attitude, any ideas?
[09:09] <theine> uniq: isn't there a tool that is actually able to convert filenames to utf8? I remeber something like "utf9-conversion-tool" under breezy
[09:09] <uniq> theine: probably.. i can check. good idea :)
[09:09] <ubuntu> uniq: ok, i'll reboot and try ... btw. If i didn't have a live cd. is there a way to remount a ro root fs in rw mode?
[09:10] <theine> ubuntu: try "sudo mount -o remount,rw ..."
[09:10] <uniq> correct. that's the way to do it.
[09:11] <ubuntuthei> theine: that bypasses fstab?
[09:11] <uniq> if it's the root filesystem 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /'
[09:11] <jacob2> hello?
[09:11] <theine> ubuntuthei: I'd guess so
[09:11] <theine> ubuntuthei: Would be really annoying if it wouldn't
[09:11] <arso> booo ya
[09:11] <arso> woops
[09:12] <Systematic> hey all, ok quick prob.  Ok I got the kubuntu 6.06 LTS live cd in the mail today.  I put it in rebooted went into BIOS and changed it to run from the cd disk drive. Then it came up with the norm and I clicked on start (I wanted to run it live not install, yet)  Then that black screen with white letters came up and it kept on coming up with something about an error with mounting the I/O hdc. ...
[09:12] <Systematic> ...This went on for at least 15 to 20 mins until I just hit the power button and booted p to windows...sorry about the bad information.
[09:12] <hareem> any one know how i can install kiosk admin tool
[09:12] <theine> jacob2: what's up?
[09:12] <hareem> its in the universal repo
[09:12] <uniq> systematic: sounds like, either a bad cd or a bad cd-drive
[09:13] <ubuntuthei> theine, uniq: thanks very, very much!!! :-) ...going for a reboot
[09:13] <ubuntu> theine, uniq: thanks very, very much!!! :-) ...going for a reboot
[09:14] <Systematic> uniq: yeah I'll try it on another comp too see if its a bad drive.  Hopefully it's just the cd
[09:14] <theine> uniq: I found it, it's called utf8-migration-tool
[09:14] <theine> uniq: It's even in the main repository
[09:15] <Systematic> uniq: hey how long is that black and white screen normally up
[09:15] <uniq> theine: great. give our friend 'ubuntu' the hint he needs before he starts to rename files manually :)
[09:16] <uniq> systematic: not long. like max 5 mins. on a OK computer.
[09:16] <hareem> There is a kiosk admin tool in ubuntu its supporting kde. So how can i install it onto my kubuntu
[09:16] <theine> uniq: yes, that would be rather window-ish I guess ;)
[09:16] <jacob2> can no one answer my question?
[09:16] <theine> jacob2: what is your question?
[09:17] <Systematic> uniq: ahhhh ok hehe well off to try it on another comp.  Thanks for the help
[09:17] <uniq> hareem: the package name is 'kiosktool' - You need to enable the root user to use it. 'sudo passwd root' to set a root passord.
[09:18] <hareem> i am the root
[09:18] <hareem> so how can i get this kiosk tool
[09:18] <uniq> systematic: you're welcome. Hope you like Kubuntu when you get it to run :)
[09:18] <uniq> hareem: you are the root. I know. Have you enabled the root account?
[09:18] <hareem> in the terminal yes
[09:18] <jacob2> theine: krandrtray in kubuntu is broken for me, I was wondering if it's broken for everyone else too (in kubuntu 6.06)
[09:19] <uniq> hareem: you need to install the 'kiosktool' package from either 'apt-get install kiosktool' or install it with adept.
[09:19] <hareem> ok
[09:19] <uniq> jacob2: hang on, i'll check. What's broken for you? have you searched launchpad.net/malone for a bugreport that matches the problems you have?
[09:19] <theine> jacob2: that question I am indeed not able to answer, sorry
[09:20] <hareem> uniq thanks for the help
[09:21] <uniq> hareem: you're welcome :)
[09:22] <uniq> jacob2: what's the problem? with it?
[09:26] <jacob2> uniq: well the problem is when I open up the winow, it's all black except for the 5 buttons at the bottom
[09:26] <jacob2> and the X11 errors it gets when it starts up
[09:26] <uniq> jacob2: the krandrtray icon?
[09:26] <Zaire> can anyone tell me how to disable the nvidia logon in the xorg?
[09:26] <Zaire> logo*
[09:26] <imachine> Zaire, man nvidia
[09:27] <imachine> i think
[09:27] <jacob2> yeah click on the tray icon and click on "configure your display"
[09:27] <imachine> haha
[09:27] <imachine> ;] 
[09:27] <imachine> ok :X
[09:27] <imachine> ;] 
[09:27] <Zaire> I have to diable it from the xorg
[09:28] <jacob2> is the randr extention disabled in ubuntu?
[09:28] <jacob2> oh no it's listed in xdpyinfo... hmmm
[09:28] <uniq> jacob2: ah.. it's blank. you're right.
[09:29] <jacob2> it really sucks for people that need to configure their second display or even do rotation on the first display
[09:29] <uniq> jacob2: I do not have randr enabled in my x config. Do you? I don't know what's default.
[09:31] <Zaire> yea I can't get dual displays goin either right now
[09:32] <jacob2> the randr extension is listed in my xdpyinfo
[09:32] <jacob2> I think it's krandrtray that's broken because it is getting X11 errors when I start it from a terminal
[09:32] <hareem> uniq i need some info regarding this kiosktool
[09:32] <hareem> its not letting me create any profiles
[09:33] <jacob2> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[09:33] <theine> jacob2: that error you will probably get every time you start an X application from the terminal
[09:33] <Jiv0c> Any one know how to fix my sound at ventrilo ( using irc )
[09:33] <theine> jacob2: nothing to worry about
[09:33] <_ubuntu> hi
[09:34] <Jiv0c> hi
[09:34] <Jiv0c> Any one know how to fix my sound at ventrilo ( using irc )
[09:34] <theine> jacob2: you can get rid of those errors by removing all those wacom devices from /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:34] <problemz> i have problems
[09:34] <problemz> are andy germans there
[09:34] <Jiv0c> Not me
[09:34] <uniq> hareem: you need a running ssh-server on the target machine.
[09:34] <problemz> are u a linux pro ?
[09:34] <Jiv0c> Me?
[09:34] <Jiv0c> Not realy but what ur problem?
[09:34] <hareem> its says cannot connect to localhost
[09:35] <problemz> ok
[09:35] <problemz> i have linux 10.0 installed
[09:35] <problemz> and i cant login
[09:35] <Jiv0c> Mandriva?
[09:35] <problemz> couz i have forgotten my root pw
[09:35] <uniq> hareem: install openssh-server
[09:35] <theine> problemz: what's linux 10.0?
[09:35] <hareem> this is the error:
[09:35] <hareem> The file /home/hareem/test/.kdeprofile could not be installed because of the following problem:
[09:35] <hareem> Could not connect to host localhost.
[09:35] <hareem> Do you want to retry the installation or abort the saving of changes?
[09:35] <problemz> suse linux 10.0
[09:35] <Jiv0c> Re-install
[09:36] <theine> problemz: you can fix this by using a live CD
[09:36] <problemz> i boot now from live cd
[09:36] <problemz> but i must mount the hdd with linux
[09:36] <theine> problemz: unless suse provides some sort of recovery mode
[09:36] <problemz> doesnt work
[09:36] <problemz> it wants my root pw
[09:37] <Ventrilo_Problem> Any one know how to fix my sound at ventrilo ( using irc )
[09:37] <theine> problemz: are you using sudo?
[09:37] <problemz> how can i mount hdd in knubuntu
[09:37] <Ventrilo_Problem> Any one know how to fix my sound at ventrilo ( using mine )
[09:37] <problemz> sudo whats this?
[09:37] <apokryphos> problemz: check the FAQ
[09:37] <problemz> i online with knubuntu live cd now! +
[09:37] <theine> problemz: what's the command you use for mounting the partition?
[09:37] <problemz> mount /DEv/hda3 /mnt
[09:37] <raphink> mount :)=
[09:38] <problemz> i dont know how i mount here in knubuntu
[09:38] <problemz> command line?
[09:38] <raphink> sure
[09:38] <raphink> you can do that
[09:38] <theine> problemz: are you sure it's not already mounted?
[09:38] <hareem> uniq i installed the ssh server
[09:38] <problemz> yes
[09:38] <raphink> or right clicking on the desktop, too
[09:38] <theine> problemz: have you looked at the output of "mount"?
[09:39] <problemz> now
[09:39] <problemz> no
[09:39] <problemz> how can i do that
[09:39] <raphink> hi apachelogger
[09:39] <theine> problemz: do that, just type "mount" in a terminal and hit enter
[09:39] <apachelogger> hey raphink
[09:39] <raphink> :):
[09:39] <Ventrilo_Problem> Any one know how to fix my sound at ventrilo ( using wine )
[09:39] <theine> problemz: do you see /dev/hda3 somewhere in that output?
[09:39] <apachelogger> everyone please digg http://digg.com/software/Amarok_1.4.1_released_with_Last.fm_stream_support! .... amarok needs _your_ help :)
[09:40] <problemz> no
[09:40] <problemz> i type in terminal
[09:40] <problemz> the command
[09:40] <problemz> wait
[09:40] <hareem> how do you setup kiosktool
[09:40] <problemz> oh
[09:40] <problemz> it says to me onyl root can do that
[09:41] <raphink> apachelogger: do you plan on upgrading kblogger, or shall I do it?
[09:41] <theine> problemz: when you simple type "mount" and hit enter?
[09:41] <theine> *simply*
[09:41] <apachelogger> raphink: I'll do, actually I should have an up-to-date version somewhere
[09:41] <raphink> apachelogger: ok otherwise I'll do it now
[09:41] <problemz> no nothing mounted
[09:41] <raphink> do you have the source package around apachelogger?
[09:41] <apachelogger> http://kblogger.pwsp.net/
[09:41] <problemz> damn
[09:41] <apachelogger> oioi, not updated for some time ;-)
[09:41] <theine> problemz: ok, then try "sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt"
[09:42] <raphink> apachelogger: I mean the package source, with diff and dsc
[09:42] <raphink> apachelogger: so i can upload it for you
[09:42] <hareem> does any one how to setup the kiosktool
[09:42] <apachelogger> well, as told, they are not up-to-date
[09:43] <raphink> apachelogger: ah ok, do you mind if I update it now?
[09:43] <problemz> mhm
[09:43] <problemz> i have
[09:43] <apachelogger> raphink: nope
[09:43] <raphink> ok :)
[09:43] <raphink> I just felt like upgrading it :)
[09:43] <problemz> ok its mounte
[09:43] <problemz> d
[09:43] <theine> problemz: cool, now do you know how to change the root password?
[09:44] <problemz> yes
[09:44] <problemz> but its not easy
[09:44] <theine> it is
[09:44] <problemz> how
[09:44] <hareem> does any one know how to setup kiosktool
[09:44] <hareem> plz
[09:44] <hareem> help
[09:44] <theine> problemz: first type "sudo -i"
[09:44] <theine> problemz: that will make you root
[09:44] <problemz> ye
[09:44] <problemz> s
[09:44] <problemz> k
[09:44] <theine> problemz: and then "chroot /mnt"
[09:45] <problemz> yes
[09:45] <theine> problemz: and now just "passwd"
[09:46] <problemz> yeah
[09:46] <problemz> but now its knubunt psswd
[09:46] <problemz> or?
[09:46] <problemz> i must change pwd on hda 3
[09:46] <hareem> can some one please help me setup the kiosk tool
[09:46] <theine> problemz: no, by doing "chroot /mnt" you effectively became root in your SUSE installation
[09:47] <problemz> are u sure?
[09:47] <theine> problemz: yes, type "ls /etc" and see whether you recognize any SUSE specific configuration files
[09:47] <v|p3r> hi i have installed kubuntu, i have sound but amarak it's doesn't work, xmms works fine, any ideas?
[09:48] <theine> problemz: or "ls /home/<your_user_name_under_SUSE>"
[09:48] <problemz> bash is command not found
[09:48] <problemz> ah k
[09:49] <problemz> ls/etc works
[09:49] <hareem> need help in setting up kiosktool
[09:49] <hareem> please help
[09:50] <theine> problemz: i'd just try to log into SUSE now
[09:50] <problemz> how ?
[09:51] <problemz> k
[09:51] <problemz> i see home my name now
[09:52] <problemz> what now?
[09:52] <problemz> does it works?
[09:52] <theine> problemz: restart your computer
[09:52] <problemz> k
[09:52] <problemz> what is with unmount?
[09:52] <waterpie> uniq: i am the guy with the fstab problem. I just want to say thanks again
[09:52] <problemz> should i do  or?
[09:53] <waterpie> theine: i am the guy with the fstab problem. I just want to say thanks again
[09:53] <hareem> what does the fish command do
[09:53] <theine> problemz: it will unmount automatically when you reboot
[09:53] <theine> waterpie: you're welcome
[09:53] <problemz> k
[09:53] <problemz> thy
[09:53] <problemz> thx 4 helping
[09:53] <problemz> i m testing now
[09:53] <theine> problemz: good luck
[09:53] <problemz> yeah
[09:53] <problemz> thx
[09:54] <hareem> can some one please tell me how can i configure the kiosktool application
[09:54] <hareem> please help
[09:56] <v|p3r> hi i have installed kubuntu, i have sound but amarak it's doesn't work, xmms works fine, any ideas?
[09:56] <TheHighChild> v|p3r: Change the sound engine to xine
[09:57] <jacob2> oh well, luckily I don't run kubuntu on any of my home machines
[09:57] <v|p3r> TheHighChild> v|p3r: Change the sound engine to xine << i have chosed
[09:57] <TheHighChild> v|p3r: still no sound?
[09:57] <v|p3r> TheHighChild: only in amarok
[09:58] <v|p3r> eaven i chose alsa inside the xine engine
[09:58] <v|p3r> the strange is if i use xmms the mp3 works fine
[09:59] <TheHighChild> v|p3r: that's odd. shut down amarok and restart it, see if that helps. I'm not too expert with sound, sorry
[09:59] <v|p3r> TheHighChild: ok thanxz
[10:01] <Remo_A> hi all
[10:01] <Remo_A> there is a bug in the sun-java package
[10:01] <Remo_A> a minor one:
[10:01] <Remo_A> in konqueror the path to the executable is wrong, it should be: /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun-1.5.0.06/bin/java
[10:01] <uniq> hareem: enable the root user as i explained before. Then it will work.
[10:02] <Remo_A> well, in other words, it should of course be /usr/lib/java but there is no correct linkage
[10:02] <Remo_A> maybe you'll do this, thanks
[10:03] <hareem> ok so how do i enable the root
[10:04] <TheHighChild> hareem: Why would you want to do that?
[10:04] <Remo_A> lol
[10:04] <hareem> cause kiosktool is not working unless root is enabled
[10:04] <hareem> i just want to setup kiosk tool thats all
[10:05] <hareem> hey uniq how can i enable the root user
[10:05] <problemzh> re
[10:05] <problemzh> hi
[10:05] <problemzh> it doesnt work
[10:05] <problemzh> but why?
[10:05] <TheHighChild> hareem: You can type 'sudo -i' to switch to a root terminal
[10:05] <Remo_A> ...ok, my contribution sank under in this conversation, so bye all
[10:05] <uniq> hareem: 'sudo passwd' choose a password for the root user. Root is administrator so it's recommended to have a strong password.
[10:05] <hareem> listen man i need to setup kiosk tool and i dont know how to do it
[10:06] <hareem> ok so now what i do
[10:06] <hareem> i did the sudo passwd thing
[10:07] <gatekeeper> evening all
[10:07] <uniq> hareem: then you open kiosktool and create profiles. when you save you enter the password.
[10:08] <hareem> thanks man
[10:08] <problemzh> how can i change the pwd
[10:08] <problemzh> root pwd
[10:08] <problemzh> on hda3 and i am now on with hda7 live CD
[10:08] <hareem> so now when i setup the users policy
[10:09] <benoit> salut les lapins
[10:09] <hareem> the policy would be setup on the pc i install the kiosktool on or is it network based
[10:09] <uniq> problemzh: chroot to the mountpoint and run 'passwd root'
[10:09] <problemzh> and how do i that?
[10:10] <problemzh> i am a totaly linux noob
[10:10] <uniq> hareem: by default it will be setup on the computer you run kiosktool, but in the configuration of kiosktool you can choose to upload to remote computer.
[10:10] <v0taguz> type sudo passwd
[10:10] <hareem> ok
[10:10] <v0taguz> problemzh:
[10:10] <problemzh> yes
[10:11] <v0taguz> type sudo passwd
[10:11] <problemzh> i have
[10:11] <problemzh> and now?
[10:11] <uniq> v0taguz: that wouldn't help much when he's running a livecd and wants to change the password on the system on the harddisk.
[10:11] <problemzh> yes
[10:11] <flashpc> has anyone here installed gimpshop for dapper drake? maybe they could help me do the same?
[10:12] <v0taguz> uniq: sorry but i only want to help
[10:12] <v0taguz> XD
[10:12] <problemzh> uniq and how can i change the pwd on my hda 3
[10:12] <problemzh> now prob
[10:12] <problemzh> no prob
[10:12] <flashpc> all i see is an rpm on frehmeat
[10:12] <uniq> problemzh: you'll have to mount the root partition from the harddrive, and chroot to it. Then you can run 'passwd' on the system on the disk.
[10:12] <steveire> Who can remind me how to  install a deb package i download? >>> http://kflickr.sourceforge.net/wikka.php?wakka=Kflickr
[10:12] <problemzh> i have mounted
[10:12] <problemzh> and how can i chroot to it?
[10:13] <raphink> man chroot
[10:13] <uniq> v0taguz: sorry if i'm direct and sound evil. But i'm just trying to be effective. :)
[10:13] <problemzh> k
[10:13] <problemzh> what now
[10:13] <steveire> !packages
[10:13] <ubotu> You can browse and search the packages in Ubuntu in synaptic, adept and online on http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <visik7> is there a patched kdm for usplash shutdown ?
[10:14] <steveire> is it dpkg -i <package> or something?
[10:15] <TheHighChild> steveire: yeah, with sudo
[10:16] <TheHighChild> steveire: you can also do dpkg --install <package.deb)
[10:16] <steveire> cool, cheers
[10:16] <steveire> is it as easy as aptitude purge to get rid of it?
[10:16] <uniq> yes.
[10:17] <steveire> interessant
[10:17] <v0taguz> uniq: Thanks for your apreciattion, im a n00b
[10:20] <problemzh> oh damn
[10:20] <problemzh> i cant change it
[10:20] <problemzh> can someone help me
[10:20] <steveire> A kubuntu installation can get very huge very fast.
[10:21] <Dannilion> that's ok for me- I have plenty of space ;)
[10:22] <problemzh> can someone tlell me the ls command?
[10:23] <Zaire> anyone here know how I can edit the xorg.conf to remove the nvidia logo?
[10:24] <gatekeeper> problemzh: what do you need to know?
[10:24] <gatekeeper> !nvidia
[10:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <problemzh> ok
[10:25] <problemzh> i forgot my root pw
[10:25] <matthias> mmh was is des da?
[10:25] <problemzh> on my other partition hda3
[10:25] <problemzh> i am online with live CD
[10:25] <problemzh> knubuntu
[10:25] <problemzh> and i want to delete the pw file
[10:25] <steveire> http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=179241539&context=pool-70499479@N00&size=o <<< Can i get desktop stuff like this for my desktop?
[10:25] <gatekeeper> Zaire: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia#head-25d26bb166158beeff13520345659f002827c94b
[10:26] <matthias> i have some troubles with adept in kubuntu
[10:26] <gatekeeper> problemzh: are you trying to find it?
[10:26] <matthias> i am not able to make updates or to install packeges
[10:26] <problemzh> yes
[10:26] <problemzh> but i dont know where
[10:26] <Zaire> yes?
[10:26] <problemzh> i am a linux noob
[10:27] <problemzh> i dont know many commands
[10:27] <problemzh> i have mounted the hda where is my linux installed
[10:27] <matthias> neighter with the adept programm nor with the console
[10:27] <problemzh> but now i dont know what i should do now
[10:27] <Hawkwind> problemzh: You do NOT want to delete the password file
[10:27] <matthias> i dont get connections to packege servers form sources.list
[10:28] <Zaire> Im trying to figure out how to get rid of the nvidia logo to see if thats why my xserver won't start back up when I have the driver "nv" changed to driver "nvidia"
[10:28] <Hawkwind> problemzh: Boot into single user mode and just reset the root pass.  You don't need to know the current one to reset it
[10:28] <problemzh> u cabt boot in single
[10:28] <problemzh> i have try it
[10:28] <problemzh> i have grub ! it doesnt work in single  it wants my root pw!
[10:29] <steveire> http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=179241539&context=pool-70499479@N00&size=o <<< This desktop stuff available in kubuntu?
[10:29] <Hawkwind> problemzh: single user mode, init 1, does NOT require you to have the root password
[10:29] <problemzh> ah ok
[10:29] <problemzh> i have typed some things in the command line
[10:29] <Zaire> yea just sudo init 1
[10:30] <problemzh> edit init 0 to init 1 or?
[10:30] <problemzh> then its single mode
[10:30] <Zaire>  or that
[10:30] <gatekeeper> problemzh: here is something to bookmark http://www.ss64.com/bash/
[10:30] <coachJ> how do i install something from a CD???
[10:30] <Zaire> depends on what your trying to install
[10:30] <coachJ> crossover office
[10:31] <problemzh> k
[10:31] <problemzh> and now what sould i do
[10:31] <problemzh> bootloader init 0
[10:31] <Zaire> shouldn't have to do much for that it should auto mount the CD then you should be able to launch the installer....if it isnt letting you launch from the GUI you may have to do it from command line
[10:31] <problemzh> and then it works?
[10:33] <Zaire> coachJ: is it auto mounting the CD?
[10:33] <coachJ> yes but cant click and install
[10:33] <coachJ> tahat woyld be way to easy
[10:35] <coachJ> why cant adept do it from the GUI
[10:35] <Zaire> coachJ: try using the command line cd into the directory of the cd and type either ls or ll to get a list of files and type sh and the installer file name
[10:35] <coachJ> i'll try
[10:37] <coachJ> no such dir
[10:37] <coachJ> media:/hdd/Codeweavers CrossOver Office Pro 3.02/Codeweavers CrossOver Office Pro 3.0
[10:38] <Zaire> try cd /cdrom for the directory
[10:39] <coachJ> k
[10:40] <uniq> coachj: you can also run "find /media/hdd -name '*.deb'" to find the .deb files on your cdrom, given that your cdrom is hdd.
[10:40] <v|p3r> TheHighChild: encontre la solucion del problema con amarok, hayq ue instalarle unas librerias de xine, no solo xine
[10:41] <v|p3r> TheHighChild: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php/MP3_on_Kubuntu_6.06
[10:41] <v|p3r> :)
[10:42] <coachJ> k
[10:42] <apol> !es
[10:42] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:42] <TheHighChild> v|p3r: i thought it may be codecs but since you said xmms played the songs, i figured you had them
[10:43] <v|p3r> TheHighChild: i thoght to,
[10:44] <coachJ> cannot excute binary file
[10:45] <Zaire> hmmm k I think uniq may be best for this one Im still learning lol
[10:46] <coachJ> k
[10:47] <uniq> coachj, zaire hm? what caused the error?
[10:47] <Zaire> dunno he said the error was cannot evecute binary
[10:47] <Zaire> execute*
[10:48] <uniq> coachj: what did you do to get that error?
[10:49] <bioticpro> How can the konq tab bar be set to appear at the bottom of the screen instead of the top?
[10:50] <Zaire> I may be back in a min or 2 depending on if I have to re-edit my xorg again lol
[10:50] <coachJ> eff@kubuntu:/cdrom$ sh install- crossover-pro-3.0.0-5_i386.deb
[10:50] <Wanderer> anyone familiar with kopete and syncing buddy lists to the server?
[10:50] <pussfeller> how do i make konqy open all new files in tabs
[10:50] <pussfeller> not a new instance
[10:50] <pussfeller> like when you plug in an ipod
[10:50] <pussfeller> there dont seem to be an option for it
[10:51] <uniq> coachj: then it is because the cd is mounted noexec. try 'sudo dpkg -i crossover-pro-3.0.0-5_i386.deb'
[10:52] <coachJ> wont let me do sudo ask for password but wont except it
[10:53] <bioticpro> pussfeller: try konq settings>web settings>tab behavior, open in new tab when url called externally
[10:53] <fiyawerx> does anyone use tovid?
[10:53] <Zaire> there back
[10:53] <uniq> coachj: use your user password, make sure capslock is off. etc.
[10:53] <bioticpro> and I found my answer here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Secret+Config+Settings
[10:55] <Zaire> whoops my monitor is all screwy now lol
[10:55] <Zaire> told ya I was still learning lol
[10:55] <coachJ> database area is locked by another process
[10:56] <Zaire> brb again lol
[10:58] <_tmdx120> I am 'building' the rt2500 module using module-assistant. I got the the build part and it says "build has failed"
[10:58] <_tmdx120> what should I do?
[10:58] <Zaire> there fixed lol
[10:59] <|lostbyte|> Oh  ! i really love xgl :P
[10:59] <Zaire> well sorta I guess lol
[10:59] <_tmdx120> can anyone help?
[11:00] <uniq> !adept crash fix > coachj
[11:01] <uniq> _tmdx120: it should be buildt by default. doesn't the version that comes with the kernel work?
[11:01] <dueyfinster> Was Konversation built into 5.10? I can't remember
[11:01] <dueyfinster> Tryna help a friend
[11:02] <_tmdx120> uniq: it did not even recongize my card. I have an rt2500 card and Im trying to use my linux box as a wireless hub.
[11:02] <D4m4ge> i have a question : i canot umount a cdrom, can we force the umount?
[11:02] <D4m4ge> cannot*
[11:02] <uniq> _tmdx120: ah.. understand. The included driver doesn't support that,for sure.
[11:02] <_tmdx120> uniq: is there anything I can do?
[11:02] <uniq> d4m4ge: in konsole 'sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom'
[11:03] <D4m4ge> thx uniq
[11:03] <uniq> _tmdx120: I don't know, I'm not very familiar with module-asisstant.
[11:03] <Dannilion> yes
[11:03] <_tmdx120> uniq: ok, is there any way for me to get my box acting as a hub that you know of?
[11:04] <coachJ> eff@kubuntu:/cdrom$ sudo dpkg -i crossover-pro-3.0.0-5_i386.deb
[11:04] <coachJ> dpkg: error processing crossover-pro-3.0.0-5_i386.deb (--install):
[11:04] <coachJ>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:04] <coachJ> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:04] <coachJ>  crossover-pro-3.0.0-5_i386.deb
[11:04] <uniq> _tmdx120: not with a rt2500 wireless card, as far as i know.
[11:04] <uniq> !paste > coachj
[11:04] <uniq> coachj: I don't know what you can try now.
[11:05] <_tmdx120> uniq: aaaaaargggg! The manual states explicitly that the card can act as a "soft Access Point" under LINUX. That is why I got it.
[11:06] <uniq> _tmdx120: hmm it probably can, but i don't know how.
[11:06] <coachJ> thks anyway, this is waht keeps Linux lagging behind the evil MS
[11:06] <gnomefreak> coachJ: did you try sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[11:06] <_tmdx120> uniq: thanks, sorry for sounding frustrated. Im eager to use linux a platform. but issues like this keep me from goin forward. Have any ideas?
[11:08] <coachJ> no is that entire command
[11:08] <coachJ> yes
[11:08] <coachJ> ill try it
[11:08] <gnomefreak> coachJ: yes entire command
[11:09] <gnomefreak> without the ?
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=464 that seems to build ok
[11:09] <gnomefreak> its the same as doing --configure -package
[11:09] <coachJ> jeff@kubuntu:/cdrom$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[11:09] <coachJ> jeff@kubuntu:/cdrom$
[11:09] <coachJ> now what
[11:09] <gnomefreak> yuck
[11:09] <uniq> coachj: everything is configured.
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: The very latest one doesn't
[11:09] <gnomefreak> coachJ: hold a sec let me look back on what its giving you
[11:11] <gnomefreak> coachJ: delete everything that you downloaded for crossover and sudo dpkg -r crossoverwhatever the name of the deb is.deb and re download it adn try again
[11:11] <uniq> gnomefreak: it's on a cd.
[11:11] <coachJ> its on CD
[11:11] <gnomefreak> coachJ: ah
[11:11] <gnomefreak> coachJ: did you mount the cd drive than try the dpkg -i command?
[11:11] <coachJ> its mounted
[11:12] <coachJ> yes
[11:12] <gnomefreak> can you download the deb into your home dir than try it?
[11:12] <coachJ> sure
[11:12] <gnomefreak> coachJ: dpkg is saying it cant find the deb
[11:12] <TheHighChild> does anyone use Gnump3d?
[11:12] <coachJ> i'll move it to home and try it
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ok let me know
[11:13] <coachJ> thks
[11:13] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: hello again. So, walk me through this. Will this work with Dapper?
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: It should do - It does support hostapd as well
[11:15] <TheHighChild> Newb question: When you save a file through konqueror or another KDE app, what is the "Save As" dialogue box and navigation screen called?
[11:15] <coachJ> ok its here now what is the command /home/jeff/Downloads/Codeweavers CrossOver Office Pro 3.0
[11:15] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Open konsole -> type apt-get install build-essential
[11:15] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn:
[11:15] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok
[11:16] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: DONE
[11:17] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: what next?
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: sorry it should have been 'sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-2.6'
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: mkdir build
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: cd build
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Then download from the link I gave you before into build
[11:19] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I got "you should explicitly select one to install' preceded by several candidates.
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: uname -a
[11:20] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Im running with an AMD 64bit 3500+ on an ASUS MB
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Running kubuntu 64 bit ?
[11:20] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: yup
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: I need the kernel version 2.6.15 (and whatever is after it)
[11:21] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: how do I check that?
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: uname -a
[11:22] <sensei> -r to avoid answers like "i686 GNU/Linux" ;)
[11:23] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: 2.6.15-25-amd64-generic #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Jun 14 11:28:03 UTC 2006 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[11:23] <sebo> hi
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-amd64-generic
[11:25] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: OK done.
[11:26] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: what next?
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Have you downloaded the file into ~/build ?
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Using konqueror or firefox or whatever
[11:29] <gnomefreak> coachJ: sorry its sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:30] <gnomefreak> coachJ: thats if its a .deb file
[11:30] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I dont know whether to download generic 2.6.15-25.43 or xxx.39
[11:31] <gnomefreak> .43
[11:31] <gnomefreak> its the newest one
[11:31] <_tmdx120> gnomefreak: ok
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=464 thats what you need to download (save it into build)
[11:32] <coachJ> yes
[11:32] <gnomefreak> coachJ: did it install?
[11:32] <piotr_> :-)
[11:32] <piotr_> ehlo
[11:32] <coachJ> thats after I have Cd into the dir???
[11:32] <coachJ> see above
[11:33] <gnomefreak> just use cd <enter>
[11:33] <gnomefreak> sorry no
[11:33] <gnomefreak> coachJ: cd ~/downloads
[11:33] <gnomefreak> type that
[11:33] <coachJ> jeff@kubuntu:~$ sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[11:33] <coachJ> Password:
[11:33] <coachJ> dpkg: error processing filename.deb (--install):
[11:33] <coachJ>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:33] <coachJ> Errors were encountered while processing:
[11:33] <coachJ>  filename.deb
[11:34] <gnomefreak> coachJ: filename = whatever the name of the deb file is
[11:34] <sensei> ...
[11:34] <gnomefreak> coachJ: what is the name of the .deb file?
[11:34] <coachJ> crossover-pro_3.0.0-5_i386.deb
[11:35] <gnomefreak> coachJ: ok type sudo dpkg -i crossover-pro_3.0.0-5_i386.deb
[11:36] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Ok, I now have rt2x00.tar.gz in build
[11:36] <coachJ> its working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:36] <coachJ> thks sooooo much
[11:36] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:36] <gnomefreak> brb
[11:37] <coachJ> really thks alot
[11:37] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: (from the still open terminal) tar xzvf rt2x00.tar.gz
[11:38] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[11:38] <coachJ> had to cd into my downlaods dir then run the command
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: cd rt2x00
[11:38] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: make
[11:38] <Hawkwind> Anyone know where to get a deb package of avimerge for Dapper by chance ?
[11:38] <driz> hello people
[11:38] <coachJ> learned something today
[11:39] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: should I cd to rt2x00
[11:39] <Lynoure> coachJ: :)
[11:39] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: yes
[11:39] <_tmdx120> oops sorry ok
[11:39] <Lynoure> coachJ: I kind of believe that when a person says that, lots of us are smiling happily.
[11:40] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok, DONE
[11:40] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: So has it built ?
[11:40] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: yes
[11:41] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: sudo make install
[11:41] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: no error messages.
[11:41] <uniq> !firefox kde
[11:41] <ubotu> Go to http://konquefox.free.fr/ for tips and tricks on making Firefox more KDE-friendly.
[11:41] <uniq> hot tip ^^
[11:41] <root____> Hi, i'm from Catalonia (Spain) and i want to install mozilla firefox in kubuntu 6.06; I've downloaded the package but i don't know how i can install it (i've done the tar) and i don't know how i have to install it... if anyone can help me i'll be very happy
[11:41] <root____> thanks.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: not that i know of but use google and type in for search avimerge.deb ;)
[11:41] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok done
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ok bbl got to run out for a few
[11:41] <ryanakca> anybody else had trouble with kopete crashing when Initiating a chat with a "buddy" on the MSN Protocol
[11:42] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: kdsu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:43] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: bash: kdsu: command not found
[11:43] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: Tried that actually and nothing is found at all :(
[11:43] <Hawkwind> _tmdx120: kdesu not kdsu
[11:43] <Philip5> Hawkwind: avimerge should be a part of the transcode package so try to install that
[11:43] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[11:44] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Ok kate opened up with text.
[11:44] <Howitzer> Where do i access the KDE Shortcuts?
[11:44] <sja> root___ -> Why not just use Synaptic and install package?
[11:44] <Howitzer> also, if i want to start yakuake on startup, do i just need to make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart?
[11:45] <Howitzer> gnomefreak, what are you doing in a KDE channel? xD
[11:45] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: I need to work out what needs to be blacklisted bear with me
[11:45] <sja> don't use gnome ... but do use synaptic
[11:45] <Hawkwind> Philip5: Thanks.  How did you find out it was part of transcode if I might ask ?
[11:45] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: no problem at all, you are doing me a great favor.
[11:46] <Howitzer> btw, can i add a kde-start menu -ALIKE menu with my favorite apps?
[11:46] <Howitzer> like you have the 'drawer' for the gnome-panel
[11:47] <ryanakca> sja: why not just use adept or aptitude
[11:47] <Philip5> Hawkwind: i use video and graphics on linux... that's my main usage besides learning other stuff :)
[11:47] <sja> I usually just use apt-get ... but, for GUI, I just prefer synaptic ... altho never tried aptitude
[11:48] <Howitzer> i found aptitude confusing
[11:48] <Howitzer> so i just use apt-get
[11:48] <SrKlaudi> sja: hey! in synaptic i can see that firefox is installed but i can't run it..
[11:48] <Howitzer> SrKlaudi, try firefox-bin ?
[11:48] <Zaire> holy man that was a pain took me last 20 min to restore the proper xorg to get back into the GUI lol
[11:49] <ryanakca> Howitzer: what... command mode aptitude, or the aptitude interface?
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: add 'blacklist rt2500' to the bottom of that file and then reboot (just the bits inside '')
[11:49] <Howitzer> ryanakca, cli aptitude interface
[11:49] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: add it to the bottom of the list?
[11:49] <h3sp4wn> yep
[11:50] <sja> When I installed 6.06 Firefox was installed ... it worked "out of the box" (after I disabled ipv6)
[11:50] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: im saving
[11:51] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok, now just reboot?
[11:51] <Zaire> well looks like Im closer to getting dual monitor support
[11:51] <h3sp4wn> _tmdx120: Yes
[11:52] <_tmdx120> h3sp4wn: see you in 5 mins (I hope)
[11:52] <SrKlaudi> Howitzer: in the folder that i have unzipped the tar of firefox there is a file called firefox-bin, do you say that i have to try this file?
[11:52] <eromero> hi there guys, anyone knows how do i tell ubuntu to load the modules i currently have loaded on next restart?
[11:54] <Philip5> eromero: add them to /etc/modules
[11:54] <Philip5> if they don't load by themself
[11:54] <Howitzer> SrKlaudi, yes
[11:54] <jeroenvrp> does anyone know about the setup of mailman
[11:55] <Howitzer> but SrKlaudi, i think there is a guide about that on the ubuntu wiki
[11:55] <eromero> and how do i tell it no to load some modules on start?
[11:55] <eromero> that was probably the right question :-D
[11:55] <Hawkwind> jeroenvrp: It's a very indepth app.  Might try asking in #Mailman or somewhere like that
[11:56] <Philip5> eromero: if it loads them it's probably needed
[11:56] <jeroenvrp> Hawkwind: yes, but I never eceive any answer on #mailman
[11:57] <Howitzer> i found out that Kubuntu is actually quite incomplete regarding KDE
[11:57] <eromero> Philip5: it's loading bcm43xx for my wlan card and it's also loading ndiswrapper. bcm driver doesn't seem to work, ndiswrapper works, but only if bcm aint loaded, so i want to tel it not to load bcm*
[11:57] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Im Back. now what?
[11:57] <Howitzer> it doesn't include a lot of default KDE stuff
[11:57] <Howitzer> why is that?
[11:57] <Howitzer> is it all -that- large?
[11:58] <uniq> howitzer: what is it you're missing?
[11:58] <Howitzer> kde-games, kdeaddons
[11:58] <Howitzer> that stuff
[11:59] <Howitzer> kdeartwork, kdestyles,..
[11:59] <uniq> they are optional modules.
[11:59] <uniq> Don't fit on the cd, as other stuff have been prioritized.
[11:59] <uniq> you can install them from adept.
[11:59] <Howitzer> but they all say 'xxxx which comes default in KDE
[12:00] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: sudo modprobe rt2500pci
[12:01] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Done
[12:02] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: pastebin (to pastebin.ca) /sbin/ifconfig -a
[12:03] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: you lost me. is pastebin a command?
[12:03] <Howitzer> !pastebin
[12:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:03] <Howitzer> i'm off
[12:03] <Howitzer> Bye guys!
[12:03] <Howitzer> 'off
[12:03] <SrKlaudi> bye Howitzer
[12:05] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: sorry, Im a newbie moron. Im just getting used to the syntax.
[12:05] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: what do I do?
[12:06] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: type /sbin/ifconfig -a into konsole and copy the output to pastebin.ca and give me the link
[12:06] <tmdx120> pastebin.ca
[12:07] <h3sp4wn> website