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LaserJockhmm, so what happens to specs that aren't approved by the deadline? are they defered to edgy+1?01:44
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LaserJockhi jsgotangco 01:46
jsgotangcogood morning01:46
AmaranthLaserJock: You can still do them.01:46
crimsunthey're sent down the TUBES OF INTERNET HELL.   http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/?entry_id=151249901:46
AmaranthLaserJock: the approved specs are just "we want this done"01:46
jsgotangcoLaserJock: i heard this strange news today regarding a candidacy in Nevada01:47
LaserJockoh really?01:47
jsgotangcoyeah former adult movie star01:48
LaserJockhmm, haven't heard about that, but wouldn't doubt it, a adult movie star ran for govenor of California not long ago :-)01:49
jsgotangcoLaserJock: http://mimi4governor.com/01:49
LaserJockhmm, somehow I just don't think I'll be voting for her ;-)01:51
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jsgotangcoi just heard it from the local news because she's filipina by birth and was an immigrant so...01:51
LaserJockI see01:52
LaserJockI wondered01:52
LaserJockI haven't really paid much attention to the races here, although the billboard signs are starting to pop up all over the place01:56
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BurgundaviaLaserJock: specs can be picked up and work on by anyone. In fact, our open spec engine makes us completely unique among all distros02:10
Burgundaviathat is why those brazilian guys are working on the network wide updates spec02:11
LaserJockI'm just worried about getting this dynamic-menus spec done, I'm afraid I'm not knowledgable enough right now to get a good draft02:11
jsgotangcowas it reviewed?02:12
LaserJockonce, in Paris02:12
LaserJockand then Corey thrashed it a bit earlier today :-)02:12
jsgotangcothats fine although your time is a bit limited already...02:13
jsgotangcoLaserJock: i am not surprised02:14
LaserJockall the KDE stuff from aaron threw me off02:14
jsgotangcoit is quite nice admittedly02:14
LaserJockright, but we don't ship kiosktool in Edubuntu, right?02:15
LaserJockI can see were is somebody wants to use KDE + Edubuntu it makes sense that we reduce duplication, etc.02:16
jsgotangcoyou really have to hack up sabayon just to make it happen02:17
jsgotangcobecause if you hardcode the menu structure, seb will be pissed off02:17
LaserJockbut it still seems a bit odd to me to use sabayon to create group driven menus02:18
LaserJockit's quite overkill for a menu editor, although I was thinking that it might be handy to change more than just the menu by group02:20
LaserJockok, so I have a few questions still02:22
LaserJock1) should I just focus on shipping sabayon profiles and not worry about KDE right now?02:23
LaserJockwell, actually that's sort of it02:23
LaserJock2) are the "groups" from the normal *nix /etc/group or do we want a new file like what Aaron seemed to be talking about?02:27
jsgotangcoits only KDE specific for that02:28
LaserJockbecause they don't use /etc/group?02:31
jsgotangcoi remeber vaguely its just a flat file and it looks like a bit like active directory02:31
LaserJockreminded me of a .desktop but yeah02:35
AmaranthLaserJock: Different menus for different groups?02:50
AmaranthBasically you need some way to set XDG_CONFIG_DIRS based on the group of the logged in user (then gnome-menus will load the applications.menu and etc for that group) and some extension of alacarte or something to modify "root" menus for the different groups.02:51
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LaserJockAmaranth: I'm not sure if it's that easy for us or not03:04
HedgeMagehi guys03:05
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jsgotangcohi bddebian03:59
bddebianHeya jsgotangco04:00
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mhzhi all04:54
bddebianHello mhz04:59
mhzbddebian: hi there05:00
jsgotangcomhz: mauricio!05:01
mhzjsgotangco: jerome!05:01
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jsgotangcoits the most unnatural irc client out there05:02
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jsgotangcoyeah i hear ya05:02
jsgotangcobut irssi is also shipped05:02
mhzis it?05:02
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mhz_mhz: hi there from irssi05:04
mhzit does work05:05
jsgotangcoof course05:05
mhzyeah, but i never tried it before05:05
mhzjsgotangco: you participate in a11y?05:06
jsgotangcoyes but im no expert i just participate on tests05:06
jsgotangcoi dont think gaim is a11y friendly/compliant05:06
mhzI have VERY cool news and I dont know how to handle it05:06
jsgotangcofrom the looks of it05:06
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sbalneavEvening all05:07
jsgotangcolook for TheMuso, he's more adept into a11y and very much involved in it for ubuntu aside from heno05:07
jsgotangcosbalneav: scotty!05:07
sbalneavhey hey hey jsgotangco!!05:07
mhzjsgotangco: oh, thx05:07
mhzevening sbalneav05:07
jsgotangcomhz: there's going to be a very interesting a11y feature for edgy...05:08
mhz_mhz: hi there from irssi05:08
mhzjsgotangco: which is...? (i apologize but last 3 weeks were terribly hectic05:09
jsgotangcoTheMuso is sight-impaired so he knows the issues very well05:10
mhzjsgotangco: got any videos of henrik programming or working on web mastering stuff?05:10
mhzjsgotangco: i have been invited to do an edubuntu demo tomorrow morning, at the Teleton Institute (Institute that helps children or anyone to walk again, to start using new arms, etc.05:11
jsgotangcothat is awesome!05:11
mhzif they like base edubuntu demo, I'll be asked to demo a11y stuff05:11
mhzif this really works... it will mean to implement edubuntu + a11y labs all over Chile05:12
mhzabout 13 region05:12
mhzit is not huge amount of computers BUT it is huge load of work05:13
mhzthey were very impressed by FET demos05:13
mhzit is a pity TheMuso could not come to Chile for FET (yeah, Paris was mor eimportant of course)05:14
mhzI now have zero clue how to demo anything related to a11y05:14
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highvoltageBurgwork: pong08:38
Burgundaviahighvoltage: well hey08:39
Burgundaviahighvoltage: when is a good time to talk about an edubuntu case study. I don't have a list of questions but shall we do it via email?08:41
highvoltageBurgundavia: edubuntu or tuxlabs?08:43
Burgundaviahighvoltage: edubuntu in the tuxlabs08:43
highvoltagei think if it's edubuntu, it should include ogra and rodarvus and richardw08:43
Burgundaviaa case study is a story about how you deployed Edubuntu and why you did so08:43
Burgundaviadesigned to be read by policy makers08:44
highvoltageok, we're moving this week, but i'll have some computer time08:44
highvoltagewhen are good times for you, are you around 16:00 UTC?08:44
Burgundaviathat is pretty early08:44
highvoltageanything after 19:00 UTC?08:45
Burgundaviawhy don't I send you a list of questions by email and we can do it each on our own time08:45
highvoltageok, that sounds good.08:45
BurgundaviaZA to CA is pretty hard. Makes it hard to contact that part of my family08:45
highvoltageyep :/08:45
Burgundaviahowever, I don't have an email for you08:46
highvoltageyou can send me a few questions at a time too, or as they pop up, no rush08:46
highvoltagei just received a nice article i can give you... just a few secs...08:46
Burgundaviai will bang something out now and then see what I can do08:47
Burgundaviathat is great. I can glean a great deal from that08:50
Burgundaviahighvoltage: initial questions sent08:53
highvoltageBurgundavia: http://www.jonathancarter.co.za/files/jonathan.pdf08:55
Burgundaviahighvoltage: I have to crash. if you didn't get that email I just sent you, ping Burgwork08:59
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cbx33one machine generates an X error when running gnome-window-decorator09:44
cbx33the other can't install compiz09:44
cbx33because of a libsvg-cairo dependency error09:44
highvoltagecbx33: we don't have pity for people with XGL problems in this channel! go to #ubuntu with your XGL problems!09:46
highvoltage</ogra mode>09:46
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jsgotangcoXGL/Compiz? go away!10:17
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jsgotangcohighvoltage: ping?10:17
highvoltagejsgotangco: pong!10:19
jsgotangcohighvoltage: how open are you to becoming a jet-setting open source developer and talk to some lowly brown natives somewhere in the islands of the pacific10:20
jsgotangco(don't mind the other stuff im just jesting)10:22
highvoltagejsgotangco: there's no such a thing as lowly brown natives in my book ;)10:22
jsgotangcoa week before LCA200710:23
highvoltagejsgotangco: i'm not sure i'm following you10:23
jsgotangcoactually a few days before LCA10:23
jsgotangcohighvoltage: im sourcing for speakers10:23
highvoltageLCA is in January right?10:23
highvoltagei think that might be a quiet time for us, so i'm quite open to the idea.10:24
jsgotangcoyeah well, we're currently arranging stuff this early on so we know the timeline10:25
highvoltagegood idea. some people have learned the hard way that arranging this kind of thing last-minute isn't a good idea.10:27
jsgotangcoespecially if you're going to expect a 15+ hour flight ;)10:29
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highvoltagejsgotangco: revenge is best served cold ;)10:31
jsgotangcohave you experienced subzero before?10:31
highvoltageno, i haven't.10:31
highvoltagethe coldest i remember is 2 degrees celsius10:32
Yagisanoh. people are going to LCA2007 ?10:43
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jsgotangcoim going for sure10:45
Yagisanjsgotangco: then it will be nice to meet you :)10:48
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elbixiohello everybody, i downloaded the live cd of edubuntu 6 because i'm planning to teach how to use it in my next semester course10:54
elbixioi noticed the live version runs kind of slow because our lab cdroms10:54
elbixioand i was wondering, could the LTSP approach help, asuming i could get a nice server10:55
highvoltagelive cd's generally tend to be slower than an installed system.10:55
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highvoltageRAM is often a bigger cause than the speed of the drive, since a live CD consumes quite a bit of memory.10:56
elbixiohighvoltage, the problem is that our lab admin doesn't want to install it10:56
highvoltagewhat's the specifications of the machines?10:56
elbixiointel pentium 4 2.2 GHz processors10:56
elbixio256 DDR RAM10:56
highvoltagedo you have another machine lying around?10:56
elbixiofor the LTSP approach?10:57
highvoltagewhat you could do, even though it won't be edubuntu, is to install knoppix on an old machine, and use knoppix-terminal-server10:57
elbixioi see10:57
highvoltageit will run a full system on all your machines, as apposed to LTSP.10:57
highvoltageyou could do LTSP with Edubuntu too, if you have a very powerful server.10:57
highvoltageLTSP needs a strong server, where knoppix-terminal-server needs strong clients (like the ones you have)10:58
elbixiowhat specs do u recommend to have a "powerful server"?10:58
elbixioso, i install knoppix-terminal-server in an average pc and run the regular knoppix in my clients10:58
elbixiois that right?10:58
highvoltagefor a thin client server, ideal would be 200MB RAM per client, fast disks (preferably SATA striped), at least two Xeon CPU's (or equivilant) per 30 PC's10:59
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elbixioregular knoppix -> live knoppix10:59
highvoltagealthough you could get away with less too.10:59
highvoltageelbixio: yes, that's right10:59
Yagisanbut it works with less10:59
highvoltagealthough that installed knoppix would basically be a debian system, and you could just apt-get install the software that you could find in edubuntu as well.11:00
highvoltageYagisan: 32-64MB per client isn't enought when running gnome or kde though :/11:00
elbixiomy personal pc has a debian system installed and has a 3.2 GHz proccesor and 1 GB of RAM11:01
elbixioi'll have about 10 clients11:01
elbixiowould that be enough for the knoppix approach?11:01
Yagisanhighvoltage: I found it worked ok for me, but I use a smaller selection of applications, so I might be too conservative on ram11:02
highvoltageelbixio: for the knoppix terminal server, you don't need a very powerful server, for that your personal pc is more than powerful enough11:02
elbixioso my clients will run knoppix (still from cd), but the response times will get better, right?11:03
spaceyi think you would need more ram for 10 clients :o11:04
highvoltagespacey: not with a fat client server ;)11:04
highvoltagespacey: on knoppix-terminal-server, the workstations will use local memory11:04
elbixiohighvoltage, is it possible to do it without knoppix terminal server and use debian etch instead?11:04
spaceyand whats terminal server about that11:05
elbixioand the clients still run knoppix?11:05
highvoltageelbixio: i think so, you could probably add the knoppix repository to your sources.list and apt-get install knoppix-terminal-server, but i haven't tried that yet11:05
elbixiohighvoltage, ok11:05
highvoltageelbixio: yes, they will basically run knoppix11:05
elbixiohighvoltage, i thank u a lot for the info man11:06
elbixioi'll try to look for more info :)11:06
highvoltagespacey: it's propably not 'terminal server' in the strictest sense, but at least your workstations are diskless :)11:06
highvoltageelbixio: if you have to time, take some time to play around a little, there's lots of cool stuff you could do in a lab with such powerful workstations :)11:06
elbixioeven in a live way right?11:07
spaceyhighvoltage: play games? ;o11:07
highvoltagespacey: yes. especially that.11:08
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elbixiohighvoltage, look from the knoppix site: "In fact, one of the things I like the most is the Knoppix terminal server, I like it so much that I set it up on my main Debian server so that I can start Knoppix out of the net whenever I want, and it really rocks."11:10
elbixiohighvoltage, maybe it's possible to use my own computer for testing :)11:10
cbx33mornin all11:13
cbx33anyone got xgl working yet?11:13
highvoltagecbx33: many people have :)11:14
cbx33:( - havn't11:15
cbx33compiz.real: No GLXFBConfig for default depth, this isn't going to work.11:15
cbx33trying to run in a nested X11:15
cbx33if I try to run gnome-window-decorator in my default display it logs me out11:15
cbx33AUDIT: Tue Jul  4 09:46:34 2006: 9044 X: client 3 rejected from local host11:16
cbx33with that message11:16
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neopsychecan anyone help me with myh mouse:?02:02
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pygihey jsgotangco 02:51
jsgotangcohello pygi02:51
pygiwhat's up? :)02:51
jsgotangcooh i just arrived home, i had a long day at work02:52
pygiah 02:53
jsgotangcopretty much tired at the moment, will just have a quick dinner then will start cracking up on some ubuntu work02:53
jsgotangcopygi: how many people are developing diva besides yourself?03:03
pygijsgotangco, 303:04
pygiwhy do you ask?03:04
jsgotangcojust wondering =)03:04
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highvoltageanyone around who can help me with pmount and permissions?03:12
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ajay1hi guys03:58
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tuxrobothi pygi04:05
tuxrobothey Yagisan04:05
tuxrobothey sankarshan04:05
sankarshanhey tuxrobot 04:05
tuxrobotsankarshan: u indian?04:05
pygituxrobot, do I know you? :P04:05
pygihi hi04:05
sankarshani human04:06
tuxrobotpygi: u do :P ajayc04:06
tuxrobotsankarshan: obviously :p we cant have martians here04:06
sankarshani could be martian too04:06
sankarshanbut tomorrow04:07
tuxrobotsankarshan: seriously are u indian?04:07
tuxrobotok leave it04:08
tuxrobotpygi: what time is the meeting on wednesday?04:08
pygituxrobot, what meeting?04:08
tuxrobotpygi: i was told there is a meeting here04:08
pygiall meetings occur in #ubuntu-meeting04:09
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sbalneavGood morning edubuntuoids04:16
highvoltagehi sbalneav!04:31
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ograi'm quite criplled atm04:42
ogradont upgrade to edgy if you own an ibook04:43
ograseems there is no way to get the keyboard working04:43
jsgotangcoi dont have an ibook04:43
ogragnome-panel bursts to eat 65% CPU04:43
ograthe app menu doesnt work anymore04:44
jsgotangcoits really edgy!04:44
ograand my beuatiful sllep light on the ibook turned into a HD indicator 04:44
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jsgotangcolol i dont even have enough machines to upgrade to edgy04:45
Yagisansounds like fun04:46
pygijsgotangco, ur production machine, production one :)04:46
sbalneavogra: sounds like you're up to your butt in alligators today.  I won't bug you about ltsp stuff then :)04:46
jsgotangcohah no way04:46
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ograpygi, well, its somewhat needed to have your devleopment machine running what you develop :) i cant get around it ...04:47
pygiogra, I agree :)04:47
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ograsbalneav, just ask ... i'm just typing a bit slower (and have only one mouse button without the built in keyboard)04:48
sbalneavI sent you an email the other day.  I'm to the point where I'm ready to do a "build" of MueKow.04:48
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sbalneavNo rush, though. 04:49
ograso first update the changelog with dch -i04:49
ogra(while being in the source tree)04:49
ogramake some funny changelog entry and save that file 04:49
ogra(thats necessary to have a higher version so apt doesnt complain about your package)04:51
sbalneavdch I don't seem to have.04:52
sbalneavIs it part of pbuilder?04:52
ograits part of the devscripts package04:53
sbalneavah, ok, installing04:53
ograyou will need that to build packages04:53
ograwoah, thats annoying, i always type on the wrong keyboard04:53
sbalneavok, got it.04:54
ograit will care for the right5 format of your entries etc 04:55
sbalneavDone.  Funny changelog entered.04:55
ogranow you run: dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa04:55
ograoh and you need to make sure that the mailaddress and name you used in your entry is a valid one from your gpg keyring04:56
ograother people might use debuild -S -sa btw04:57
ograthere are more than one way to rome ;)04:57
sbalneavok, gonna try it now.04:57
ogram trying some kernel modules for the keyboard04:58
ogramight be that i hardlock my machine04:59
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cbx33hi all05:06
cbx33how do I add more keyboard layouts to gnome05:07
cbx33it says mine is unknown etc05:07
cbx33I think cos I did a reconfigure on Xorg05:07
cbx33and I need it to be gb, cos it hasn't picked up the sindows key properly05:07
ogralucky you ... others dont eve have a keyboard the system could complain about :P05:07
cbx33do you know how to add the gb layout ?05:09
cbx33jsgotangco: I would except05:09
cbx33ther eare no layouts in stalled there05:09
cbx33the list is blank05:09
jsgotangconothign when you add?05:10
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cbx33a totally blank list05:10
cbx33yup that's what I thought05:10
cbx33I'm not that stupid :p05:10
jsgotangcowho said you are?05:10
jsgotangcodon't be so defensive im just trying to help thank you05:11
ogradid you install the whole set of langpacks through the language selector ?05:11
ograit has a row for input stuff05:11
ogralook if the checkmark is set there05:11
cbx33how do i do that?05:11
cbx33language support?05:11
ograthere is a menu entry in the admin menu05:12
cbx33it's not in language support05:12
ograas i said, i only have an xchat, terminal and firefox window here, panel doesnt work atm05:12
ogracant check or verify05:12
cbx33ogra: language selector in the future will have keyboard support05:15
cbx33just read the paris summit baout it05:15
ograit has input support since breezy05:15
cbx33not here, but ok, I'll keep loking05:16
jsgotangcogo bzr go05:18
cbx33oh btw ogra I have my edubuntu server at home now05:23
cbx33so I should be able to start writing the stuff for scp05:23
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AmaranthThis must be Tuesday. I never could get the hang of Tuesdays.05:59
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jsgotangcoogra: is there like a webpage we go to as SoC mentors to evaluate the student?07:06
ograyes, but dont ask me about the url ....07:07
ograwell, i have some major probs getting to my mail atm ...07:17
ograevo seems to have forgotten all my passwords ... so have i ....07:17
jsgotangcodont worry, i got it from riddell07:18
ograand the little sheet where i noted them down is outside in a box in the van07:18
ograbelow ~15 other boxes :)07:18
DanielCogra: Do you have a backup of $HOME?07:19
ograDanielC, sure, but evo seems to store the pw's differently now07:20
ogra(and the tapes are in another box in the van anyway)07:20
DanielCvan? Are you moving?07:20
ograsince more than a month i'm slowly moving all my stuff across the country whenever i have time left07:21
ogratakes quite some time ...07:21
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jsgotangcochange is good07:21
ograit has its advatages and disadvantages07:21
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pharmakomGrr....Dapper Edubuntu install is crashing when it gets to configuring LTSP. Anyone seen this problem before? 07:29
DanielCDefine "crash"?07:30
DanielCDo you get a black screen with two white squares?07:30
DanielCIt's a problem with X.07:30
DanielCThis is the best you can do:07:30
DanielC1) Install first as Workstation.07:30
DanielCIt will still break X, but don't worry...07:30
DanielCthe installer keeps working, even if you don't see it.07:30
DanielCwait until the CD pops out07:31
DanielC(may need to press Enter once or twice, but I doubt it)07:31
DanielCtake out the CD and press Enter07:31
DanielCthis reboots the computer normally.07:31
DanielCWhen it reboots, X will work as it should.07:31
DanielCSo you can then proceed to install the LTSP part.07:31
pharmakomThis solution doesn't work if I try it with regular install?07:31
DanielCThe problem with doing this with the LTSP install is that after the X11 part Edubuntu asks a few questions.07:32
DanielCAnd you can't see them.07:32
pharmakomThanks, I'll give it a try.07:32
DanielCYou can guess that I was hit by the same bug...07:33
pharmakomYeah, I'm just glad that you got a work around!07:33
pharmakomI had a server up and running and it was distributing DHCP addresses alright to the lab but the tftp was timing out. Any suggestions on that front?07:34
DanielCNo idea.07:34
DanielCI don't know tftp from an oak tree.07:34
pharmakomOne step at a time, I guess. :P07:34
pharmakomI think one gives you nuts and the other gives you kernels but that's as far as I've gotten.07:35
pharmakomOr in my case, it doesn't.07:35
pharmakomBut I think it should.07:35
ograDanielC, apparentlyx its enough to select another video mode at the CD bootscreen :)07:43
ograno need to fly blind07:44
DanielCogra: Is it?07:44
DanielCogra: That's better...07:44
DanielCI had to fly blind when I did it...07:44
ograthats what i heard from a handfull reliable sources, must not mean it works on every system, but its very likely07:44
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pharmakomHrm...something to consider.  07:45
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pygiogra, poke? :)08:13
ograpygi, yes ?08:13
pygiNothing important, but just noticed I wasnt approved for e-m :P08:14
ograe-m ?08:14
pygiedubuntu members ^^08:14
ograoh ?08:14
DanielCwhat's an edubuntu member?08:15
ografixed, sorry, my fault08:16
pygiogra, no worries ^^08:16
ograDanielC, same as an ubuntu member :)08:16
ograbut applied for membership at the edubuntu council instead of the community council08:17
DanielCDo edubuntu members get anything that other people don't?08:17
ograand with an edubuntu.org mailaddress08:17
pygiDanielC, we get teddybear :P08:17
DanielCheh :)08:17
DanielCHow do I apply to become one?08:17
ograheh, yes, install xteddy and run it :) 08:17
ograteddy for free08:17
DanielCwhat does one have to do to become an edubuntu member?08:18
DanielCupload patches?08:18
pygiogra, about the kdeedu stuff...08:18
ograapply for membership here: https://launchpad.net/people/edubuntu-members/+join08:18
ograand you need the same prerequisites a ubuntu member needs08:18
pygiIf you would be willing to write detailed spec of what exactly we want, I could tackle writing applications that should replace kdeedu for edgy+108:19
ograi.e. sustained valuable contribution08:19
DanielCogra: Ok...08:19
ograbeing around for some time ... 08:19
ograworking with the community etc ... everything counts08:19
DanielCWell, I haven't really done anything... so I guess I'll have to wait.08:19
ograyou wrote howtos and wiki pages :)08:19
ograthats already a valuable contribution :) even though a small one 08:20
DanielCso a few more of those and I can get a "member" badge?08:20
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ograpygi, what about it ?08:21
ograwe have space atm ... 08:21
pygiright, but not enough time for me to write complete replacement for kdeedu08:21
DanielCI'll give a presentation on Edubuntu at the end of the month, at the UK FLOSSIE conference (FLOSS In Education). Does that count?08:21
pygifeatures freeze is in a month08:21
ograyeah, trime is short in edgy08:21
ograDanielC, well, sure, but its hardly measurable ...08:22
pygiogra, as I said, if you can write a detailed spec on what you want to see, I can tackle writing entire replacement08:22
DanielCSo measurable is good...08:22
pygithen we are sure we will have a solid and good replacement :)08:22
ograpreferably we like measurable contributions ... many karma points in LP are impressing for example :)08:22
ograa good documented wikipage that lists your conmtributions as well :)08:23
DanielCbut you get karma points for things like filing bug reports.08:23
pygiDanielC, cheerleaders :)08:23
ograand for solving bugs08:23
ograand for translations :)08:23
DanielCI'll be a "member" one day. It'll just take me time...08:24
DanielCI'm already over-committed.08:24
DanielCThe only reason I can spend time on Edubuntu as it is is that my employer lets me do that during work hours because it's relevant to my work.08:24
ograget your openoffice package into edgy...08:24
ograthats a major contribution ;)08:24
DanielCIs it? It's just a user guide...08:25
ograsure, but its helping the community 08:25
DanielCOk... I did write much of it... but I wasn't thinking of Ubuntu when I did...08:25
DanielCOk, I'll get the user guides into edgy (there are 4 published ones).08:26
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juliuxhi DanielC 08:44
juliuxDanielC, no notebooks for you08:44
juliuxDanielC, they have to ask usa08:44
juliuxbut usa said no they need the notebooks08:44
juliuxno reason08:44
juliuxits a usa company08:44
DanielCSo we can't get the notebooks?08:45
juliuxand they mean that it could happen that they need the notebooks in the future08:45
juliuxbut nobody belives that08:45
DanielCHave you said this to Ian? He was going down tomorrow to pick them up...08:45
DanielCjuliux: Can they "lend" the notebooks to a school and if they need them get them back?08:49
juliuxi didnt get an e-mail from ian08:49
DanielCOk, I'll talk to Ian when he gets back.08:50
juliuxi allways said that i have to backcheck it with usa08:50
juliuxthey said that there have to be in the company08:50
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juliuxhe also has no address08:51
DanielCWhat do you mean?08:51
DanielCAh, he doesn't know where to go.08:51
DanielCSince he said he was going tomorrow I assumed he had talked to you (obviously he'd need an address...)08:51
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juliuxno he did not talked with me08:52
highvoltageheh, it looks funny to see someone approved as member with the comment "whoops, sorry" :)09:19
juliuxhighvoltage, which time is the meeting tommorow?09:23
highvoltagejuliux: 20:00 UTC09:24
juliuxhighvoltage, ah that is good09:24
juliuxso i have a chance to be there09:24
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highvoltagethese late meetings used to be tough for me, but these days it's working better for me09:25
Amaranthanyone here know iptables?09:25
juliuxAmaranth, a little bit09:25
bddebianAmaranth: Yeah, iptables --flush ;-)09:25
Amaranthook, i don't have an updated meeting calendar09:26
Amaranthtrying to setup transparent proxying09:26
Amaranthsudo iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 800809:27
Amaranthseems to do nothing09:27
juliuxhighvoltage, have i also to add me to the edubuntu wiki meeting site?09:28
Amaranthtech board meeting in 30 minutes?09:28
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DanielCjuliux: You said that the company would not be willing to *lend* the laptops?10:08
DanielCjuliux: ie. you'd still own them, and get them back whenever you want...10:09
juliuxDanielC, i know but it is a very strange company, there are a lot of things i dont understand but i am only for an internship there10:09
juliuxDanielC, there are not real informatics only windows users10:10
DanielCjuliux: I just wanted to check that I had understood right.10:10
juliuxDanielC, there is no understanding on IT, they know where they have to kilck on windows that it is working10:10
BurgworkAmaranth, how goes your content filter?10:17
AmaranthBurgwork: no progress in about 2 weeks10:18
BurgworkAmaranth, ah, I see. Got a name chosen?10:18
LaserJockgo rodarvus go!10:18
rodarvushaha :)10:19
BurgworkLaserJock, what is he doing now?10:20
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LaserJockBurgwork: going for core-dev10:20
Amaranthrodarvus: i noticed you subscribed to my willow spec10:20
rodarvusAmaranth, indeed10:21
Amaranththe spec doesn't reflect what i'm actually doing10:21
rodarvusand whats the current status of willow?10:23
Amaranththe willow proxy software is...annoying10:25
Amaranthwillowng (what i'm actually working on) is actually already working10:25
Amaranthbzr branch http://dev.realistanew.com/willowng/10:27
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mhzholas, jmredlinks `12:12
mhzbienvenido al canal de Edubuntu12:12

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