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jjesseooo lots of kde goodness coming across edgy changes :)02:22
nixternalGO RIDDELL GO!!!02:23
jjessehiya nixternal having a good holiday?02:23
nixternalim trying jjesse...our fireworks look like a no go tonight02:23
nixternalalways have tomorrow though02:23
nixternalya..they are starting to roll in now02:24
jjessemaybe we will get them later tonight then02:24
nixternalyou supposed to go see some fireworks tonight?02:24
nixternalactually..it looks like these storms have a southerly heading to them02:24
jjessetomorrow, city of grand rapids always has them on the 4th02:24
nixternalas they are coming from my backyard so to speak02:24
nixternaleveryone here does them one day different then chicago02:25
jjesseah i bet chicago's fireworks are pretty big?02:25
nixternalactually...from grand rapids..if it is clear, you can see chicago fireworks02:25
nixternalmy cousing says they head out on a boat, tonight and tomorrow and watch fireworks from all 3 states02:25
jjessereally?  i think we are too far way02:25
nixternal70miles straight across pretty much02:26
jjessethat would be fun to see02:26
jjessewell grand rapids is still 30+ miles from the lake02:26
nixternalmy cousins live in grand rapids..or right outside i think now...but they can take their boat and get to winthrop harbor downtown in about an hour02:26
nixternalwhich is usually a 3+ hour drive02:26
nixternalactually..i think they are in the haven now02:27
nixternaleither grand or south02:27
jjessegrand haven?02:27
nixternalthey are in south haven...my family is over and i just asked02:27
jjesseholy cow steve yzerman retired today02:28
nixternalup by traverse city on the grand haven...they aren't up there02:28
nixternalya..i about died when i seen that02:28
jjessejust catching up with todays news :)02:29
jjessejsgotangco: yeah "the captain" detroit red wings02:31
jsgotangcoheh i don't get to see hockey too much here on cable, its usually football and boxing02:32
jsgotangcolast weekend we had PPV for a boxing match that is just an hour away from home hahaha02:34
jjessethats a bummer, but yeah its a shocker that he retired 02:34
jjessei hope the detroit front office will offer him a job if they haven't already02:35
jjesseoh well sorry for the off-topic02:35
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freeflyinghi all03:54
bddebianHeya freeflying03:54
freeflyingbddebian: hey03:54
Hobbseehi freeflying 03:56
freeflyingHobbsee: morning03:57
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jjessehmm lots of kde lanaguage files coming across :)04:31
Hobbseejjesse: ooh fun :)04:31
Hobbseejjesse: edgy's still getting stacks of updates again?04:31
bddebianYeah Riddell has been busy :-)04:32
jjesseHobbsee: all kde related04:32
Hobbseejjesse: nice04:32
jjesseyeah its good to see 04:32
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Hobbseejjesse: fun :04:35
jjesseits a simple typo in amarok04:36
jjessein the desktop guide04:36
Hobbseeah yes04:36
Hobbseejjesse: has amarok been synced yet?  better make sure Riddell doesnt accidently overwrite your changes04:36
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nixternalyou can do whatever you want now bddebian, she left ;)04:39
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nixternalis it possible...oh my lord please don't...anyways, can i get kpdf to work in firefox instead of using acrobat?04:41
bddebianShould be04:42
nixternali haven't run acrossed anything yet on it04:42
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nixternalOMG IM STOOOPID04:44
bddebiannixternal: Oh no, that's MY job around here :-)04:44
nixternalkpdf doesn't integrate into firefox, however you can set firefox to auto open pdf files in kpdf ;)04:46
jjessewill a newer version of amarok be uploaded into dapper?  ie is there a reason i would need to change the spelling of amaroK in the desktop guide to Amarok which is new to latest version?04:48
jjessesee bug #5168504:48
UbugtuMalone bug 51685 in kubuntu-docs "Wrong spelling of Amarok" [Untriaged,Confirmed]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/5168504:48
nixternalyes sir!!!04:48
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jjesseare you jus being a smartass or do you really think i need to change it for the current docs or can i change it for edgy?\04:50
nixternalyou can definately change it for edgy04:52
nixternali am sure there will be a backport eventually for Amarok in Dapper though04:52
jjessei thinking that cause i'm redoing the release notes that means there will be a new kubuntu-docs package so i might as well04:53
nixternalI know I am using 1.4.1-beta1, and I am sure someone here will eventually package it for dapper04:53
jjessenixternal: did the tigers win today? or did they not play?04:54
nixternali have no clue...tigers who? ;)04:54
jjessebummer again ben wallace is no longer a piston04:55
jsgotangcoare we a sport jock today jjesse hehehe04:59
jjessei follow sports every day jsgotangco04:59
jsgotangcodo you follow boxing?04:59
jjessenot really, i follow baseball, basketball, american football, and nascar05:00
jsgotangconascar hrmmmm05:00
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jjesseeither does my wife05:02
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freeflyinghave you set up pbuilder for edgy?05:03
jjesseafk for a bit05:03
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nixternalcan we get some oppage in #ubuntu-marketing05:43
crimsunthe explosion of *buntu channels, heh05:45
nixternalmy lord05:45
nixternalwe have a few retards in there with a bot05:46
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nixternalno doubt05:49
nixternalman..the marketing channel is being spammed by 2 retards and their bot05:49
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froudHi, if there are any trainers amongst the devels here you may be interested in http://www.inwords.co.za/content/view/103/68/09:38
seaLnemaybe i could batter my mum and dad over the head with it :)09:43
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seaLnemy mum complains that the computer course she is on uses windows so she finds it hard to relate to kubuntu on their machine09:43
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Hobbseehi all11:35
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freeflyingHobbsee: how can use bluetooth after revive 12:09
Hobbseefreeflying: no clue, i dont have bluetooth stuff12:09
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freeflyingHobbsee: thx12:10
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\shmoins kwwii01:09
kwwii\sh: howdy01:09
pygikwwii is here ^^01:09
Hobbseehey \sh kwwii and pygi 01:10
pygikwwii, may I ask about UI status?  ^ ^01:10
pygihey Hobbsee ;)01:10
kwwiipygi: of coure you can ask :-) I have a basic mockup ready, although I haven't mapped all the functions needed to the exact button placement, etc....I do have a general plan though01:11
Hobbseepygi: of course you can ask - kwwii just reserves the right not to answer :P01:11
kwwiipygi: I'll work more on it tonight and send it to you, we can then discuss things in more detail, ok?01:11
pygikwwii, oki, that's fine :) Take your time, no need to hurry, just wanted to know the status :)01:11
kwwiiHobbsee: :p01:12
Hobbseekwwii: :P01:12
kwwiipygi: the hard part is making something really new and interesting01:13
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Hobbseekwwii: how in particular are you fighting it?01:30
\shkwwii: you'll win01:30
kwwiihehe, I am not so sure about that01:30
Hobbseesuch confidence, \sh 01:31
kwwiiHobbsee: well, I have to rename all of the artwork specs and make a couple of new ones which tie the others together01:31
Hobbseekwwii: ah, ouch01:31
kwwiiI'll figure it out, but that does not mean I will like it01:31
\shHobbsee: yes, kwwii is da dude who can do it ;)01:32
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kwwiiI-con do it01:40
Hobbseehi Riddell 01:50
Riddellmorning Hobbsee 01:53
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kwwiiso while changing the name of a current (approved) spec I received an error message, anyone know why?02:08
pygikwwii, bug, bug :)02:08
\shkwwii: #launchpad02:09
kwwiiwell, I do not really want to subscribe to the launchpad users mailing list02:09
Riddellkwwii: what are you changing?02:09
kwwiiRiddell: the name of the spec itself02:09
kwwiias is, it is called "edgy-artwork", but mark asked me to make a general one called "edgy-artwork" which links all the others, so I have to rename the old one02:10
Riddellkwwii: dunno, try the launchpad irc channel as \sh says02:13
kwwiiRiddell: doing that now02:13
Riddellunfortunately I'm not sure who's incharge of the specs part of launchpad02:14
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kwwiierm, where does one enter a bug about launchpad?02:25
kwwiinever mind, I found it02:26
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\shkwwii: in launchpad ,)02:41
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Riddellwho wants a packaging challenge with strigi?02:49
Riddellraphink? jpatrick?02:49
Riddellit uses cmake02:49
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seaLneRiddell: http://stuff.duffus.org/tmp/k3b/02:53
RiddellseaLne: just syncing with debian?02:55
seaLneand fixing the desktop diff02:55
RiddellseaLne: I had a request from the k3b dudes that we package their monkey audio thingy if you're up for another challenge :)02:55
seaLnei have to package a few other things first but maybe02:56
sebasRiddell: I've checked a first draft of the powermanager UI in into guidance02:56
sebasAnd I'll go on vacation tomorrow morning for three weeks :>02:56
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Riddellsebas: great, I probably can't look at it today but certainly should do before you come back :)03:03
RiddellLure might be interested too03:03
sebasRiddell: That's fine 03:03
sebasI've CCMAIL'ed Ellen as well03:03
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raphinksorry Riddell I'm busy at work03:27
raphinkand I'm already on a packaging challenge for my work :s03:27
raphinkpackage mysql-max before tonight03:27
Hobbseehey raphink 03:27
raphinkhi Hobbsee03:27
Hobbseeraphink: what do you work for?03:27
raphinkFrance Tlcom/Orange/Wanadoo03:28
raphinkbig telecom company ;)03:29
raphinkI work on the website servers03:29
Hobbseeraphink: nice :)03:31
raphinkyes that's where I live ;)03:31
jpatrickRiddell: I was packaging that03:36
jpatrickwhen it was called Kitten03:36
Riddelljpatrick: going to do us an updated package?03:37
Riddellit uses cmake, which should be fun03:37
jpatrickyeah DaSkreech did point out the upgrade...03:38
jpatrickwherever it is03:39
RiddellseaLne: k3b looks good, I'll upload03:39
Riddelljpatrick: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=4088903:39
seaLneRiddell: cool03:47
Hobbseenice!  amarok 1.4.1 is out.03:52
Riddellif you say stuff like that people will start to notice there's no kubuntu packages03:52
pygiRiddell, :P03:53
seaLnebut thats shocking, kubuntu must be crap03:53
HobbseeRiddell: that clearly only means one thing:  get moving :P03:53
Hobbseenah, i just didnt want to see 1.4.1beta1 packages, when 1.4.1 is officially out03:53
jpatrickwhat is wrong with pastebin....03:59
Hobbseejpatrick: it's dead?  still?04:00
Hobbseejpatrick: use pastebin.ca04:00
jpatrickok, I have no idea what to do with this: http://pastebin.ca/7872204:01
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Hobbseenixternal_: ping?04:16
jpatrickHobbsee: watch out, he knew Billy Corgan04:18
Hobbseejpatrick: oh dear.  wonder who that is.04:18
jsgotangcomad guitar player/singer for the smashing pumpkins?04:26
jpatrickjsgotangco: yeah, him04:27
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seaLneanyone know what should the build-depends be for something that requires kernel headers?04:32
seaLneas in "Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 5), linux-headers-*, ...."?04:34
jpatrickmaybe the lastest kernel? linux-headers-2.6.15-2504:36
seaLneand presumably it should be or linux-source aswell?04:36
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jpatrickSize: 4444168004:38
jpatrickif you want a big chroot...04:38
jpatrickI think the header's should do it04:39
seaLnelinux-kernel-headers sounded good but it appears to be 2.6.11?04:40
jpatrickon dapper04:42
seaLneyeah but none of them seem ideal and anyway if its for edgy it should be 2.6.1704:44
jpatrickwhatever the lastest is04:47
Hobbseeargh, my k-d-s patch never got put in.04:54
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RiddellHobbsee: which patch?04:55
HobbseeRiddell: the one about the splash screen for amarok.  however, it seems that you can just remove the line, and the problem goes away entirely.04:56
\shwho promoted libmad to main?04:57
HobbseeRiddell: if you want me to patch it and send it to you to upload, that'd be cool.  i might have a little trouble testing it on edgy though04:57
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\shhey slomo04:58
slomohi \sh :)04:58
Hobbseehi slomo 04:58
RiddellHobbsee: please do, I'll be merging k-d-s today04:59
\shRiddell: is there a change in patent policy of frauenhofer? or why is libmad0 in main?04:59
Riddellalthough I see raphink has already uploaded it04:59
Riddell\sh: it's never been out of main04:59
HobbseeRiddell: right, his upload is on p.u.c?04:59
\shRiddell: hmm? wasn't it used for gstreamer0.8-mad?04:59
Riddell\sh: it still is05:00
RiddellHobbsee: yes.  but it needs to be merged with dapper-updates05:00
slomo\sh: it was never out of main, that's right... but it would be nice to have it out but it was used for akode and k3b forever... otherwise it would already be gone from main05:00
HobbseeRiddell: stick the change in dapper-updates as well?05:00
nixternalmoins everyone05:01
nixternalhiya Hobbsee05:01
nixternalyou ping?05:01
Hobbseenixternal: yeah.  right this second, i'm wondering what it was about though.05:02
nixternalit wasn't even an hour ago ;)05:02
Hobbseeoh i know05:02
nixternalto young to get the brain dead disease already ;)05:02
RiddellHobbsee: I can look at doing that too05:05
HobbseeRiddell: that'd be cool.  i'm just checking if this builds, and i'll send you a debdiff, if that's what you want?05:06
RiddellHobbsee: yes please05:06
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Hobbseewho killed apt?05:07
nixternalHobbsee: i noticed that last night trying to build pbuilder05:07
Hobbseeyeah grr, i shouldnt have updated it earlier.05:07
Hobbseeit was working fine last night.05:07
nixternaldepends on what time last night was, because i know it was broke 12 hours ago ;)05:08
Hobbseenixternal: well, over 24 hours ago - while i was still at stevenk's05:09
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nixternali was getting a dependency error with it last night05:09
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Hobbseeif apt is screwed, does aptitude work?05:10
RiddellHobbsee: unlikely05:11
HobbseeRiddell: what's the fix then?05:11
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HobbseeRiddell: it looks like there's an update, but apt cant install the update, as it's buggered05:11
RiddellHobbsee: depends what's up with apt05:11
HobbseeRiddell: ubuntu and debian dev - ubuntu core dev, for that matter05:11
Riddellpastebin the error05:11
HobbseeUnpacking replacement apt-utils ...05:11
HobbseeSetting up apt-utils ( ...05:11
HobbseeE: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/extended_states - open (2 No such file or directory)05:11
HobbseeE: Failed to open StateFile /var/lib/apt/extended_states05:12
Hobbseea bit lazy to pastebin sorry :P05:12
Riddellerr, hmm05:12
Riddelldpkg --install --force-all /var/log/cache/apt-utils...05:13
Riddellwhich could break the whole system but that seems to be the case anyway05:13
Hobbseefrom inside the pbuilder, presumably05:13
Riddelloh, pbuilder, hmm05:13
HobbseeRiddell: yes, i took edgy off.05:13
freeflyingRiddell: hi05:14
freeflyingRiddell: I mailed you skim-1.4.505:14
Riddellfreeflying: yeah saw that, I'll look at it in a bit05:14
freeflyingRiddell: I'm now persuade a distro in china release base upon kubuntu :)05:15
freeflyingRiddell: is that okey?05:16
Riddellfreeflying: excellent!05:16
Riddellfreeflying: who are they?05:16
seaLneHobbsee: i just touched /var/lib/apt/extended_states and it stopped complaining05:16
HobbseeseaLne: oh okay05:16
freeflyingRiddell: www.thizlinux.com.cn, actrually, they have used some stuffs from kubuntu's05:17
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Hobbseedoubt it will work, but it's worht a shot.05:17
HobbseeseaLne: just sudo touch /var/lib/apt/whatever?05:18
Hobbseeclearly not that.05:19
freeflyingRiddell: would you like give any suggestion?05:19
Riddellfreeflying: suggestions to persuade them to use kubuntu?  show them how many others do too http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuDerivedDistros05:20
freeflyingRiddell: I hope they can use as many as they can from kubuntu05:21
HobbseeRiddell: bug 4211405:21
UbugtuMalone bug 42114 in amarok "Amarok can't enable/disable splashscreen" [Medium,In progress]  http://launchpad.net/bugs/4211405:21
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RiddellHobbsee: can you tell mvo what your problem was05:21
Riddellwith apt-utils05:22
mvohello Hobbsee05:22
freeflyingRiddell: or say, it will be a special kubuntu release fort chinese users05:22
Hobbseehey mvo 05:22
Hobbseemvo: sure, i'll properly pastebin it05:23
Hobbseeonce i find where it went05:23
mvoHobbsee: if the problem went away with its all good05:23
Hobbseemvo: you assume that one can *install* the later version :P05:24
mvoHobbsee: yes05:24
mvoHobbsee: I'm confident about this 05:24
Hobbseemvo: the error was this05:24
Hobbsee[01:11]  <Hobbsee> Unpacking replacement apt-utils ...05:24
Hobbsee[01:11]  <Hobbsee> Setting up apt-utils ( ...05:24
Hobbsee[01:11]  <Hobbsee> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/extended_states - open (2 No such file or directory)05:24
Hobbsee[01:11]  <Hobbsee> E: Failed to open StateFile /var/lib/apt/extended_states05:24
mvoHobbsee: doing it in pbuilder might be a problem tought :/ 05:24
Hobbseemvo: yes05:24
mvoHobbsee: it should (after this complain) no longer complain05:25
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Hobbseemvo: oh good.  apt's kinda crucial, you know :P05:25
mvoHobbsee: pbuilder login --save-after-login and manually upgrading it works too05:25
mvoHobbsee: yeah, sorry for the pbuilder problem :/05:25
Hobbseemvo: i guess we'll forgive you.  this time.  if you do all my syncs :P05:25
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Riddellaww Hobbsee, now we have to go to Portugal to get mvo back!05:26
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Hobbseewhy oh why can i never get to my backup when i need it.05:27
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Hobbseehi pygi 05:29
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nixternalweee pbuilder built w/o error05:35
Hobbseeoh what fun...i killed it.05:35
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HobbseeRiddell: did you see my debdiff?05:35
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RiddellHobbsee: yes, doesn't that mean the splash screen is on by default?05:36
HobbseeRiddell: apparently not, but i havent been able to test yet.05:36
HobbseeRiddell: i dont currently have any working form of edgy.05:37
=== Hobbsee tests it out on dapper.
Hobbseeoh *damn*05:47
=== Hobbsee prods pbuilder
=== Hobbsee watches as it rolls over and dies. both times.
=== Hobbsee raises an eyebrow
Hobbseeoh crud, that's why.05:49
Hobbsee*there* we go!05:50
Hobbseecant remove the pbuilder you're currently logged into.05:50
nixternalhere we go again05:52
nixternalfreenode is under attack05:52
Hobbseenixternal: say what?05:53
nixternallook at #kubuntu05:53
Hobbseeooh, lovely...05:53
nixternali just realised those were join/quits05:53
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nixternali thought it was a mass disconnect at first ;)05:54
Hobbseenixternal: what do you think they are?  they're coming back to flood05:54
jpatrickHobbsee: can't ban them, without a massive ip list...05:55
Hobbseejpatrick: no point.  they're anon proxies.05:55
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jpatrickwhatever those are05:55
Hobbseejpatrick: means they change IP's all the time, basically.  well, that's the end effect05:55
jpatrickok, got it05:56
jpatrickI think nixternal's behind it05:56
nixternaloh lord05:56
nixternaldon't get me implicated ;)05:56
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Hobbseeoh darn, i said i was going to go to bed before 2am.06:01
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HobbseeRiddell: it does seem to show the first time, but it looks to be configurable.  now i'm just having a slight problem of amarok not seeming to actually open.06:10
Hobbseethe splash screen, that is06:11
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Tonio_Riddell: concerning packages in main (aka kaffeine) do you want me to send it to you via email or do I need to post it to revu ?06:51
Riddellbonsoir Tonio_ 06:51
Riddellrevu is probably easier06:51
Tonio_evening Riddell ;)06:51
Tonio_Riddell: okay06:51
RiddellI'm not a fan of large e-mail attachments06:51
Riddellor even small ones really06:51
jjesseafternoon everyone :)06:51
Riddellhi jjesse 06:52
Tonio_Riddell: finally I couldn't split it06:52
Tonio_Riddell: the standalone player acts like a plugin reader for the konqueror's extension06:52
Tonio_so we cannot ship kaffeine without the konq plugin...06:52
RiddellTonio_: fooey06:53
Tonio_Riddell: that sucks but that's it... :)06:53
Riddelljjesse: mjg has a point that the main job of the laptop testing team is to test the scripts not the frontends06:53
Riddelljjesse: but equally frontends can break randomly too, it would be nice to get some feedback reports when the time come06:54
jjesseRiddell: we had a better discussion off list06:54
sebasIs the laptop team testing HAL extensively?06:54
Riddellsebas: through gnome-power-manager yes06:55
Riddelland acpi-support06:55
sebasHm, but not functions that aren't used by gnome-power-manager?06:55
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sebasDoes g-p-m use brightness control of HAL?06:56
Tonio_Riddell or raphink: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=259406:57
jjessei guess it would be nice to have more thoruogh testing of laptops for kubuntu06:57
Riddellsebas: yes06:57
sebasIf next time the keyevents aren't screwed, it should be fine then.06:58
sebasI'm trying to do as much as possible via HAL.06:58
sebasProblem is that HAL is rather undocumented, so it's a lot of reverse engineering the apps that are already there, notably hal-devicemanager06:58
Riddellsebas: I hear this a lot about HAL06:59
Riddellsebas: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/LaptopTestingTeam/ThinkpadR50 for example06:59
sebasYeah, even Kevin agreed06:59
Riddellsebas: what's the issue with keyevents?06:59
sebas\sh told me they were not routed through to KDE apps.07:00
Riddellsebas: they aren't yet but they will be with kubuntu-laptop-buttons, which Lure said he'd started work on07:01
sebasAh, for Dapper?07:01
Riddellwell, they'll be mapped to sane XF keys and you can set a global keybinding07:01
Riddellsebas: no, not for dapper07:01
sebasOk, that should be fine.07:02
sebasNote that I didn't have problems with those keys anyway.07:03
sebasI'm off for now (and some more time).07:03
Riddellsebas: have a nice holiday07:04
sebasThanks, have a productive time while I relax :-)07:04
raphinkhi Tonio_07:04
Tonio_hey raphink07:04
Riddellwe'll be waiting here for you, spreading the KDE love07:04
raphinka roulotte?07:04
sebasExcellent. :>07:04
Tonio_hey sebas07:04
Tonio_Riddell: that may look stupid but I'm unable to find a translation for "fooey" ;)07:05
jjessehmm so not many people here celebrating the 4th of July :)07:05
sebashey en good bye Tonio_ :)07:05
RiddellTonio_: en francais c'est "bof"07:06
Tonio_Riddell: ok, merci07:07
Riddelljjesse: the English just lost their football, and now you expect them to celebrate the breakup of their empire too?07:07
jjesseRiddell: grin sure thing cause we are americans :)07:07
jjessehmm mback to work cleaning the study :(07:10
jsgotangcoRiddell: hi do you know the url of the webpage where we're supposed to evaluate SoC students?07:11
Riddelljsgotangco: http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_home.html07:12
Riddelljsgotangco: what project are you mentoring?07:13
jsgotangcopyq now known as amenity/pike07:13
Riddelljsgotangco: what does that do?07:13
jsgotangcoits a teacher/student testing app for edubuntu07:14
DaSkreechRiddell: Ping07:18
Riddellpong d07:20
Riddellhmm, irc and uploading packages doesn't go together07:20
Riddellpong DaSkreech 07:20
DaSkreechha ha :)07:21
DaSkreechHi Riddell. Whats up with strigi?07:21
Riddellwe just need someone to package it07:21
DaSkreechI'm trying now. Really should be doing it in Edgy though07:22
Riddellbuild a chroot07:22
DaSkreechAll the proper tools are in edgy I'm doing a fudge getting it to make in Dapper07:22
Riddellor package in dapper and test in edgy pbuilder07:23
DaSkreechWhy the interest in strigi?07:23
Riddellthe author asked me if it was being packaged07:23
DaSkreechAh he asked me as well :)07:24
Riddellso we shouldn't let him down :)07:24
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DaSkreechHa ha. I have a problem though I can't install openssl0.98-dev07:30
RiddellDaSkreech: libssl-dev ?07:31
DaSkreechThat seems to break my system :-( I'll try though07:31
DaSkreechAh right it removes b-e07:34
DaSkreechI think that would be becaue I put up a new libc to get cmake to work07:35
DaSkreechYeah. This really should be an edgy build07:36
DaSkreechI don't think that strigi has any problems with dapper that I've seen but the tools to build it certainly seem to be very edgy friendly07:37
RiddellI recommend an edgy chroot :)07:38
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DaSkreechGuess it's straight source then07:39
Riddelllibssl-dev is what you want07:40
RiddellI assume07:40
DaSkreechIt's looking for openssl/sha.h07:41
DaSkreechI have acrypto++/sha.h07:41
DaSkreechopensll uses crypto++ so they may be one and the same :( 07:42
Riddellyes, it's libssl-dev07:42
mornfallwhat's strigi just btw? :)07:42
mornfallah, desktop search07:42
mornfallvandenoever :-)07:43
DaSkreechformerly kitten formerly kat07:43
DaSkreech!= Tenor07:43
ubotuI know nothing about = Tenor07:43
DaSkreechThanks Ubotu :)07:43
mornfallkat != kitten07:45
DaSkreechIsn't Kitten the spiritual succesor to kat?07:45
mornfallthey don't share actual code i think :)07:46
mornfalland, well, the spiritual successor thingy07:46
Riddellkitten was ment to go into kat but never did07:46
mornfallyou could say GNOME is a KDE successor that way ;-)07:46
Riddellor something07:46
DaSkreechI know but they do the same thing in roughlythe same way and kitten was started cause kat was dead07:46
DaSkreech I think that's close enough :)07:46
DaSkreechHave you head the FLOSS interview with Miguel?07:46
mornfallwhich miguel? :)07:47
DaSkreechHe wanted ti\o use KDE but got caught up in GNOME :)07:47
mornfallohwell, i'm not missing that one in kde ;-)07:47
DaSkreechHe's pretty much considered the father of GNOME :)07:48
zorglu1he gave up gnome ?07:49
DaSkreechHe didn't want GNOME from the start :) 07:50
DaSkreechBut the Toolkit wasn't free at the time so he just grabbed motif and GTK and went07:50
DaSkreechPretty good story07:50
zorglu1well gnome got lucky then :)07:50
DaSkreechYep :)07:50
DaSkreechanyway back to packaging I think adept froze :(07:51
neoncodeWhos doing the "look and Feel" and visuals and such of Kubuntu Edgy?07:51
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nixternalradeon too ;)08:33
DaSkreechX.org crashes all the time now 08:34
DaSkreechWell not crash08:34
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DaSkreech Cause then I could fix it :-P08:34
crimsunyay for pbuilder login --save-after-login08:34
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nixternalbah..just bddebian09:27
nixternalhiya bddebian09:27
bddebianHi nixternal09:28
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bddebianHeya \sh09:49
\shhez barry09:50
DaSkreechDo I need an account for http://commit-digest.org10:26
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RiddellDaSkreech: to do what?10:27
DaSkreechSee it.10:27
DaSkreechI get Account Disabled10:27
seaLneexcess bandidth usage maybe?10:27
DaSkreechThats what I'm hoping :(10:27
DaSkreechBut it's pretty early in the month10:27
seaLneeither way its a problem with the server10:28
DaSkreechOk Good :)10:28
DaSkreechQT4.1 doesn't have SVG support?10:28
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RiddellseaLne: commit-digest needs a new host, got anywhere to offer him?10:44
imbrandonRiddell: how much bandwidth ? i could possibly host if we're not talking over 200gb a month 10:46
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seaLneRiddell: the problem is not being able to offer accounts11:00
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