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tmdx120h3sp4wn: i sent it using that url in my window paste.ubuntu.nl.org12:08
Zairehow do you view the history on Konqueror?12:08
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h3sp4wntmdx120: So what is the link ?12:08
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1712712:08
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Eazy-hi all. I have to deactivate and activate my network in kcontrol after every reboot to get online...anyone have a clue what might be wrong?12:09
Zairehow do you view the history on Konqueror?12:09
h3sp4wntmdx120: kdesu kate /etc/modules12:09
eimajenthat!wine12:09
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.12:09
eimajenthatdoes wine have an irc channel?12:10
h3sp4wn#winehq12:10
eimajenthatthx12:10
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tomek_Hi12:10
Zaireseriously I don't know this browser that well how do you view the history on Konqueror?12:11
tmdx120h3sp4wn: done12:11
tomek_my name is Tom12:11
h3sp4wntmdx120: add rt2500pci to the very bottom of that file and save it12:11
tomek_I am from Poland12:11
tomek_I have one qestions12:11
tmdx120h3sp4wn: Done12:11
LjLshoot12:11
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tomek_what is better firewwall to Kubuntu ???12:12
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h3sp4wntmdx120: sudo apt-get install hostapd12:12
tomek_Firestarter ??12:12
LjLtomek_: many recommend it, yes. shorewall is also often cited12:13
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tomek_ok thanks12:13
tmdx120h3sp4wn: DONE12:13
Hawkwindtomek_: I personally prefer ipkungfu12:13
tomek_:)12:13
Hawkwindtomek_: It's written and maintained by trappist here in #Kubuntu12:13
tomek_ok12:14
h3sp4wntmdx120: kdesu kate /etc/hostapd.conf12:14
eimajenthatwhy doesn't pastebin ever seem to work in Konqueror?12:15
tmdx120h3sp4wn: nothing in it.12:16
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h3sp4wntmdx120: kdesu /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf12:17
tmdx120h3sp4wn: permission denied12:18
h3sp4wntmdx120: you typed your password in wrong12:18
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h3sp4wntmdx120: sudo hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf12:19
tmdx120Operation not supported12:19
tmdx120Could not enable hostapd mode for interface wlan012:19
tmdx120hostap driver initialization failed.12:19
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: could not enable hostapd for interface wlan012:20
tmdx120h3sp4wn: hostapd driver initialization failed12:20
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h3sp4wntmdx120: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master12:22
tmdx120h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1712912:22
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: done12:22
schneidexehi leute12:23
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h3sp4wntmdx120: try sudo hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf again12:23
c11297e ai ?12:23
schneidexehello. i'am am new to kubuntu but i like it allready very much. running the live cd currently, will install soon, but i first wanted to try out some things.12:24
tmdx120h3sp4wn:  no go this is the outputhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1713012:24
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schneidexei am migrating from gentoo. so the only thing that keeps me from installing kubuntu right now is, that i am missing some packages i need12:26
tmdx120h3sp4wn: I just looked. The file is actually there.12:26
tmdx120h3sp4wn: should I cd to etc and then try it again12:27
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schneidexecan anybody tell me a source where i find aditional repositories for apt?12:27
h3sp4wntmdx120: You need the hostapd with support for the devicescape stack12:28
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: what does that mean?12:29
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h3sp4wntmdx120: You need a newer version of hostapd12:29
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: I just checked, the one I have is not upgradeable...12:30
tmdx120h3sp4wn: should I reinstall?12:31
h3sp4wntmdx120: sudo apt-get remove hostapd12:32
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: done12:33
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h3sp4wntmdx120: back into konsole -> cd build12:34
tmdx120h3sp4wn: ok, Im there12:34
h3sp4wntmdx120: wget http://hostap.epitest.fi/releases/hostapd-0.5.4.tar.gz12:35
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: ok, where do I put it?12:35
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h3sp4wntmdx120: If you do the wget command it should put it into build12:36
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: done12:36
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h3sp4wntmdx120: tar xzvf hostapd-0.5.4.tar.gz12:37
h3sp4wntmdx120: cd hostapd12:37
h3sp4wntmdx120: cd hostapd-0.5.412:37
tmdx120h3sp4wn: ok12:38
BKajwell, I install 32 bit dapper in place of the 64 bit version in order to facilitate easier and less problematic installs , but it seems nothing has changed with this version12:38
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h3sp4wntmdx120: cp defconfig .config12:39
h3sp4wntmdx120: kdesu kate .config12:39
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: kate is up12:40
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h3sp4wntmdx120: remove the # from the line CONFIG_DRIVER_DEVICESCAPE=y12:40
h3sp4wntmdx120: And then save the file12:40
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: done12:41
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h3sp4wntmdx120: make (from in the hostapd-0.5.4 directory12:42
phoenix198Hello all; I could use a bit of help.  I've checked the forums, etc.. and gotten my problem partially solved.  I have a laptop running Kubuntu6.06 with a WiFi card builtin, bcm4306.  I cannot connect to my wireless network though, for some reason.  Anyone have some suggestions?12:42
tmdx120h3sp4wn: I got some errors. but its done12:42
h3sp4wntmdx120: Is the last line Error 1 ?12:43
tmdx120h3sp4wn: yes12:43
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ubuntu_bjrrr ttttttttttttt l m onde12:44
tmdx120h3sp4wn:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1713112:44
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dueyfinsterAnyone get Konversation to use /away command successfully? It keeps crashing on me12:45
sjaphoenix198 -> Check out http://greg.primate.net/m6805/12:45
phoenix198sja:  Thanks!  Similar model, not exactly the same, but I appreciate the help!12:46
tmdx120h3sp4wn: Still with me?12:46
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zorglu1dueyfinster: crashing ?12:47
zorglu1wow no good. you sure ?12:47
dueyfinsterzorglu1: Yes, just crashes12:47
h3sp4wntmdx120: I am trying to work out how to get hostapd to build properly12:47
phoenix198sja:  Not quite what I'm looking for actually.  The wireless card is already working to the point where it sees my network; it just seems to refuse to actually connect for some reason.12:48
dueyfinsterzorglu1: I haven't started it in konsole, to see output12:48
zorglu1dunno the solution. but it seems real bad12:48
tmdx120h3sp4wn: sorry, just checking in.12:48
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dj_baggio!saa713412:49
ubotuI know nothing about saa713412:49
swhalenhello. Has anyone gotten ivtv to work on dapper?12:49
sjaphoenix198 ->  Oh well, sorry.  Just saw the line at that URL that said ...12:49
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sjaThere are no linux drivers for the on-board Broadcom BCM4306 wireless card. However, you can still make it work under linux using NDISWrapper (which enables you to use the windows drivers in linux).12:49
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Dannilionthat's not true12:50
DannilionI use a broadcom 4306 chipset in my card12:50
phoenix198Dannilion:  I need your help then!12:50
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Dannilionok :)12:50
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tmdx120h3sp4wn: the kids are calling! Can I reach you later?12:50
Dannilionyou using Dapper?12:51
h3sp4wntmdx120: Maybe or maybe tommorow (It is midnight here)12:51
PupenoIs there a centralized place to post installation experiences ?12:51
phoenix198Dannilion:  I have a bcm4306 also in my laptop.  It's recognizing the card now (used bcm43xx-fwcutter..) and it can see my home network.  However, it will not connect with all of the correct settings. :\12:51
visik7anyone have a fix for bring up usplash when kdm shutdown ?12:51
h3sp4wntmdx120: The new driver is working which is a good sign at least12:51
phoenix198Dannilion:  Yes, Dapper Drake, Kubuntu12:51
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swhalenhello. Has anyone gotten ivtv to work on dapper?12:52
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pietroqualche italiano?12:52
Dannilionok12:52
tmdx120h3sp4wn: great! then ther is hope.12:52
arcturushmmm .... kubuntu automatix is now out12:52
Dannilionright12:52
gnomefreak!it12:52
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:52
arcturushttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu12:52
tmdx120h3sp4wn: I will try to track you sone later.12:52
tmdx120h3sp4wn: THNKS!12:53
Dannilionyou know Kmenu -> Internet -> Wireless Manager12:53
pietro0k grazie ma come ci vado12:53
Danniliondoes that bring up any networks?12:53
phoenix198Dannilion:  Stupidest question I will ask, but is there a difference between ESSID and SSID?12:53
h3sp4wntmdx120: ok I have one of those cards in a box somewhere I may install it and see if I Can get it working properly12:53
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Dannilionphoenix198: no12:53
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pietrojoin/#kubuntu-it12:54
phoenix198Dannilion:  Wireless Assistant brings up the one Wireless network I have.12:54
Dannilionand it won't let you connect to it?12:54
nekromaanhello, i compiled a new kernel 2.6.17.3 and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 , i also cant use my second hard drive, what options do i have to en/disable in the kernel menu?12:54
pietrojoin/ #kubuntu-it12:54
phoenix198Dannilion: No; it just sits on "connecting to 'homegroup'..."12:55
Pupenocan't the installer create reiserfs partitions ?12:55
Dannilionhummm12:55
phoenix198And then fails12:55
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h3sp4wnnekromaan: Have you also upgraded udev ?12:55
Dannilionhave you got any security on the network?12:55
phoenix198Dannilion:  I have it set to pull an IP, etc.. and the Security is set to WEP Shared12:55
Dannilionok, can you disable any security for now?12:55
phoenix198Dannilion: Sure.  One second.12:56
Dannilionjust to check you can connect ok12:56
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BKajdarn...I've forgotten the cmd for installing dpkg in the konsole !12:57
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Dannilionsudo dpkg -i whatever.deb12:58
BKajok thx Dannilion12:58
TheHighChildAny suggested Instant Messengers that aren't Kopete or Gaim?12:58
Dannilionamsn?12:59
phoenix_Dannilion:  Back, got knocked off when disabling security on router.  I still cannot connect.12:59
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> how do i upgrade udev? :/12:59
Dannilionok12:59
DannilionErm... ypu12:59
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Dannilionyou're going to have to ask someone with knowledge now12:59
Dannilionmine worked straightaway with no security12:59
Dannilionsorry :(12:59
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phoenix_Dannilion: lol.  Did yours "just work." or did you have to use NDISWrapper or fwcutter to get it working?01:00
Dannilionneither01:00
DannilionI downloaded a driver01:00
TheHighChildDannilion: Thanks but I need something to support Jabber, AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo01:00
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Dannilionoh, ok01:00
Dannilioncentericq does, but that's cli01:00
phoenix_Dannilion:  What driver...?/  Where can I get it? :)01:00
Dannilionyou checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper ?01:01
h3sp4wnnekromaan: What do  you need from 2.6.17 ?01:01
DannilionThats where I found it01:01
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phoenix_Thanks for your help Dannilion!01:02
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> kernel headers, and it will be good if i know why new kernels dont work, i had the same problem with the 2.6.17.101:02
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h3sp4wnnekromaan: The only way I managed to get 2.6.17 working on dapper was by backporting udev from debian sid01:02
PupenoTheHighChild: Can't Kopete do that ?01:03
TheHighChildPupeno: yeah, I'm looking for a messenger that isn't Kopete or Gaim. I think they both suck terribly01:03
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> did you have the same problem, with mounting the other hard drive and device mapper?01:03
Sansanawhat's so bad about kopete?01:03
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: Try Psi01:03
PupenoTheHighChild: have you reported the suckiness to http://bugs.kde.org ?01:03
Pupenodueyfinster: it doesn't do what is expected.01:04
h3sp4wnnekromaan: Yep01:04
h3sp4wnnekromaan: Some stuff has changed name also01:04
dueyfinsterPupeno: Transports?01:04
TheHighChildPupeno: My reasons for dislike are all aesthetic, not functionality01:04
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> can you plz tell me where/how to upgrade it?01:04
h3sp4wnnekromaan: For example you need xtables support and all the iptables modules again01:04
TheHighChildI'd love kopete if it weren't for the freaky little blue heads beside everyones name01:04
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> where do i have to activate them?01:04
h3sp4wnnekromaan: It could quite easily hose your system so I am not willing to do it unless you tell me what you need from 2.6.1701:05
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: You can turn that off and change icons, as far as I can recall01:05
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Dannilionyup01:05
PupenoTheHighChild: is that just it ? you'll go into the grail quest and use an application that doesn't integrate just because of some blue heads ?01:05
Dannilionmine has the buddy icons next to the messages01:05
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nekromaan<h3sp4wn> but when will those new kernels run with the ubuntu system :( ... i need the kernel-headers for 2.6.15-25-386 to install vmware01:06
TheHighChilddueyfinster: I tried everything to get rid of the blue heads. I can change everything bu them. i even trolled #kopete and they said the same01:06
h3sp4wnnekromaan: edgy eft will have 2.6.1701:06
SansanaTheHighChild but you can change them into buddy icons01:07
PupenoTheHighChild: if you use pictures, you may be able to get rid of the blue heads.01:07
nekromaanlool, do you know when edgy will come out? ^^01:07
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nekromaan<h3sp4wn> in dec ;)01:07
TheHighChildPupeno: Can't help it. I think all the icons suck but I could live with them, not the blue heads. i'll continue with gaim before I bog my UI down with crap01:07
OODoctober01:07
nekromaanoh ok :D sorry01:07
nekromaanreally october?01:07
TheHighChildSansana: yes you can change them into buddy icons but I have hundreds (maybe thousands) of buddies. Changing them isn't an option01:07
OODyea, dapper was delayed by 2 months, but edgy is following the regular interval01:08
SansanaTheHighChild if you really want to do so, what's so bad about blue heads? :)01:08
h3sp4wnnekromaan: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-25-38601:08
OODso in october :)01:08
SansanaI really don't mind them01:08
PupenoTheHighChild: did you report on http://bugs.kde.org ? if it is importat to you, it might be importat for others (to be able to change the blue heads for... let's say, red heads or green hands).01:08
TheHighChildSansana: They're obfuscating01:08
TheHighChildPupeno: Ok. I'll make a note01:08
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: Yep, You can change them unfortunately01:08
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> i do not have them in my cache/sources; so i have to wait until edgy to compile new kernels?01:08
dueyfinsterPupeno: Good suggestion01:09
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: sorry typo can't01:09
h3sp4wnnekromaan: You can compile 2.6.16 without problems on dapper01:09
TheHighChildI like minimal disruption of my UI space. I have a 14" laptop screen, i just think it's very cluttered (kopete) I love gaim's layout but it doesn't seem to work very well with other clients01:09
Pupenodueyfinster: I don't understand why doesn't more people report bugs when they find something disturbing... this is not Microsoft; there are real developers to take care and fix it or something.01:09
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> aha? which one, the latest?01:10
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h3sp4wnhttp://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.23.tar.gz01:11
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: unfortunately thats the way it is at the moment. You should try switch to jabber with transports, or use a native application like wengo or skype (ugh), but then you have a cache 22 if you go for the latter01:11
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dueyfinsterPupeno: I know, we really should do more to encourage people01:11
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: That is convincing your contacts to move01:12
nekromaan<h3sp4wn> ok, thx, i hope it will work tomorrow01:12
h3sp4wnThat should just build normally01:12
TheHighChildI'm alright with gaim. It works and looks clean. I was hoping for something that looked a little more KDe. Gonna try this PSI01:12
h3sp4wnTheHighChild: You tried gaim 2?01:12
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TheHighChildh3sp4wn: Yeah, using it now but I don't see much difference (hard to believe it's a 2.0)01:13
PupenoPsi is a good Qt-based Jabber client. I recommend it, along with exodus, to all Win users.01:13
TheHighChildh3sp4wn: however, I get lets reports of problems01:13
nekromaanthx good night !01:13
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: do! I love the simolicity of Psi, and it works very well in KDE. You can set up transports to different protocols, its not hard01:14
TheHighChilddueyfinster: I see MSn and jabber icons, off hand do you know if it supports AIM?01:14
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: Yes it does, heres a guide with Miranda client: http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/google-talk-news/33739-connect-google-talk-aim-msn-yahoo.html01:14
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: Psi isn't that different01:15
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Pupenowhat kernel should I install for intel core duo ? (that has smp support ?)01:15
TheHighChilddueyfinster: Will take a look, thanks. I'll follow up with my experiences01:15
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: I recommend jabber.cz (Czech republic one) as a transport01:15
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dueyfinsterTheHighChild: AIM, Yahoo and MSN are supported on Jabber.cz01:16
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dueyfinsterTheHighChild: You can also get IRC, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Novell and RSS transports, but they are a bit of a niche01:17
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TheHighChildICQ should work if I can get AIM working. if nothing else, i can add ICQ clients through AIM and vice versa now that they're co-owned01:18
TheHighChilddueyfinster: So do i need to register to a transport?01:18
dueyfinsterTheHighChild: Yep, also see http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml for a comprehensive server list01:18
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PupenoTheHighChild: you don't need to register on the server where the transport is running. You only need a jabber account.01:23
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TheHighChildPupeno: Ok. I have an account on nedbsd.nl01:25
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humberthello all01:27
Fiya_werkinhow can you tell what 'device' your burner is?01:27
carl_cdrecord -scanbus01:28
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Fiya_werkinbut that doesn't say which /dev/ it is?01:29
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eimajenthatauthenticationkeys!01:30
eimajenthatno, wait01:30
eimajenthat!authenticationkeys01:30
humbertsomebody know how to debug ktorrent ?01:30
ubotuI know nothing about authenticationkeys01:30
humberterror : http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4511901:30
humbertallo ?01:31
humbertnothing works with that OS01:32
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humbertmy computr bugs 2 X more01:32
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Pupenowhat kernel should I install for intel core duo ? (that has smp support ?)01:33
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D4m4gebye all01:34
humbertsmbdy can help me with this ktorrent error ?01:34
humbertwhat i do ?01:34
humberti enter something in konsole ?01:34
humberti desinstall or reinstall the soft ?01:35
carl_depending on your amount of drives it should be /dev/hdc01:36
humbertheu speak newbie please01:36
senseihumbert: Is that your bugreport?01:36
humberti install kubuntu yesterday01:37
carl_sorry, I was speaking to Fiya_werkin01:37
humbertyes error : SISGABRT01:37
humberthttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4511901:37
senseiWhy do you keep pasting that link?01:38
humbertbecause i dont see an answer to my bug01:38
humbertnormally there is a manual when you have an error01:38
senseiThat's hardly your bug01:38
humbertTHERE IS NO REAL DEBUGGING ?01:39
humbertsorry no MAJ01:39
senseiman gdb01:39
senseiIf you know how to debug, you'd know how to find a debugger, so don't bother01:39
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Fiya_werkinsorry, carl_ i think its /dev/hda1, can't seem to get makedvd to work right tho01:40
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humbertso no posibility to debug01:41
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senseihumbert: Surely.. just that I strongly doubt you are able to01:42
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senseiFiya_werkin: Looking for your burner, are you?01:42
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humbertthere is no possibility you take control of my computer ?01:42
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humbertor something like that ?01:42
carl_do you have a cdrom0 or so in /media?01:42
Fiya_werkinsensei: found it, it's /dev/hda01:43
senseihumbert: Yes there is, but you don't want that01:43
humberti want a computer working01:43
humbertjust that01:43
Fiya_werkingetting error : mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. trying to burn with makedvd01:43
senseiFiya_werkin: Okay, good.. dmesg |grep hda could've told you that ;) Just a tip for next time01:43
Fiya_werkini have a feeling it's going to be the same as the mkfifo error i had earlier, can't work on vfat partitions01:43
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senseihumbert: Yeah, then it's not a good idea to invite complete strangers to take control over your pc01:43
senseihumbert: What's the problem anyways?01:44
humbertjust ktorrent not working01:44
humbertand my computer gets blocked on internet01:44
sensei'not working' that's great01:44
humbertmaybe i dont parameter my computer correctly01:44
crimsuncould you be more descriptive about ktorrent "not working"?01:45
humbertyes i was thinking linux was reliable01:45
senseiWhen you get a flat tire and leave it to the work shop and they ask you what the problem is, you say "it doesn't work"?01:45
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humbertwell i know some informatics but on windows01:45
sjahumbert-> some ISP block bit torrent protocol ....01:45
humbertits my firsts steps on linux01:45
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sjaif you can't get Ktorrent working, try Azureus (it's better anyway, IMHO)01:46
humbertand honnestly i am quite confused to face all these problems01:46
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humbertbut i try to improve my understanding of linux distributions01:46
humbertazureus ?01:46
humbertlike bittorrent ?01:47
senseihumbert: You have yet to define 'doesn't work'01:47
humbertwell i try to open ktorrent01:47
humbertand there is a error message01:47
humbertsimple01:47
senseiWHAT ERROR MESASGE?!01:47
sensei*breathe slowly ten times and completely ignore humbert*01:48
humbertapplication torent stops01:48
humbertand create a signal 6 SIGABRT01:48
humbertignore ?01:48
humbertyou ignore new users in the sh..?01:48
humbertok01:48
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gemidjyanyone has idea how to disable "KOrganizer Power daemon" to settle itself in the tray when I start Kontact ? (I dont use reminders)01:49
humberti let you use linux and i will use windows like 95% users01:49
humbertwith this behavious be sure not to develop your community01:49
senseiYou excpect someone to stop you?01:49
senseiexpect*01:49
humbertstop what ?01:50
senseinm01:50
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humbertjust tell me what i do with this webpage ?01:50
Frederickfolks isnt there a yacc package?01:50
gemidjysensei: stfu, dont feed him01:50
senseigemidjy: I won't01:51
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senseiFeed it that is01:51
humberti copy the indications in konsole ?01:51
bur[n] eranyone know if there is an amarok 1.4.1 .deb out there for dapper?01:51
gemidjyhumbert: how do u expect to get help after that, so give up01:51
senseiFrederick: Would byacc do ?01:52
humbertafter what ?01:52
gemidjybur[n] er: just was checking amarok.kde.org and sow it is down01:52
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Fredericksensei, I think it would do as bison would do but they are not the same thing01:52
bur[n] ergemidjy: i think it's because of the digg story01:53
gemidjyhaha, might be01:53
crimsunbur[n] er: I think imbrandon made some01:53
bur[n] ergemidjy: i didn't see any mention of one on kubuntu.org... usually mr riddell makes them01:53
senseiI suppose not, since it'd be redundant if it was :) If you can't find a third party .deb somewhere.. use the source, Luke.. or w/e :)01:53
bur[n] ercrimsun: don't suppose you have an url?01:53
gemidjybur[n] er: build from source after all :)01:53
crimsunbur[n] er: I don't01:53
bur[n] erI don't wanna get all the dev libs and all that jazz ;)01:54
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h3sp4wn"deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ ./"01:54
bur[n] er:)01:54
gemidjyworth trying its stability01:55
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bur[n] eri'm anxious to try the last.fm stuff01:56
gemidjyi did under slack, it crashed01:57
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gemidjymight be the connection01:57
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Glassiusi'm trying to get frequency scaling to work properly on my pentium-m, but for some reasons there only seems to be two available steps, 600mhz and 1,5ghz...any idea on how to get the other steps working?01:58
KinGetanahmm.. is the mplayer supposed to show me the bitrates and such when playin files?01:59
bur[n] ermine just worked :\01:59
Glassius"cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies" returns "1500000 600000", the same does cpufreq-info02:00
KinGetanai somehow just can not find a way to get qualityinformation of my clips.. :(02:01
bur[n] erKinGetana: kaffeine?02:02
CheeseBurgerManIs there going to be an update for the 2.6.17.3 kernel?02:03
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gemidjywhere can I find the original sources.lst file from Kubuntu Dapper?02:03
crimsunCheeseBurgerMan: for dapper? no.02:03
senseiKinGetana: yes02:04
CheeseBurgerManAlright.02:04
senseiVIDEO:  MPEG2  480x480  (aspect 2)  29.970 fps  2496.0 kbps (312.0 kbyte/s)02:04
senseiLike so02:04
CheeseBurgerManOut of curiosity, why not?02:04
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crimsunCheeseBurgerMan: we don't discard 8 months of stabilisation work to just plop in a new kernel.02:05
gemidjyKde seems faster under Kubuntu...strange02:05
gemidjywere there tweaks on KDE too ?02:05
CheeseBurgerManOK. I thought it was already updated once from 2.6.15.23 or something02:06
h3sp4wngemidjy: Faster than what ?02:06
gemidjyh3sp4wn: faster than on other distros02:06
crimsunCheeseBurgerMan: yes, 2.6.15 (abi 25.43)02:06
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KinGetanabur[n] er: thaks a buck :D finally i got them, funny though, it doesn't play any of those files, but it does show the codecs, still, the bitrate remains a mystery.. any idea how that could be seen?02:07
gemidjyand why I have only "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686" while I have Linux 2.6.15-25-386 as kernel (no 2.6.15-25-386 in apt-cache search either)02:07
h3sp4wngemidjy: For me kde run's much faster under kanotix (On my laptop with limited resources)02:07
CheeseBurgerManPardon the ignorance, but how is this kernel worse than that upgrade?02:07
gemidjyh3sp4wn: well on my laptop gnome is the fastest environment02:08
KinGetanasensei: nice, how'd that happen :) ?02:08
Glassiusdoes anyone have an idea on how to get the other frequency steps working?02:09
h3sp4wngemidjy: Do you have alot of memory ? (I only have 256Mb on mine and gnome is dog slow as is kubuntu) but kanotix is fast (and has kde)02:09
TheHighChilddueyfinster: I played with PSi a bit and got everything working, however I don't think i am going to adopt it. It would take me a whole day just to reauthenticate all of my buddies02:09
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senseiKinGetana: It's in the output when starting a clip just as usual02:10
Kadranhi all, does any one have any knowlage about 'Layout Engines' like Gecko and Trident02:12
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raytray25does Kontact auto check for mail?02:13
nixternalif you set it to do so raytray2502:13
nixternalyou need to configure kmail in order to do so02:13
raytray25Ok.02:13
raytray25Where under that menu?02:14
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nixternalin kontact goto "Settings > Configure Kmail"02:15
nixternalthen goto "Accounts > Modify"02:15
nixternalyou will see the interval checking there02:15
raytray25Thank You.02:16
nixternalnp sir02:16
KinGetanasensei: if it's ok with u, could u kinda draw a map for me? im not quite sure what u mean by "output when starting a clip just as usual", so like mplayer/what/where?02:16
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KinGetanain the options, i just don't see an option saying output, anywhere02:17
m_tadeucan anyone help with SynCE?02:17
senseiKinGetana: If you start a clip/movie from a console02:17
senseiAnd you'll probably have to scroll up a line or two, and you'll see four lines of =========02:18
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senseiJust over the first set of =============, that line is visible02:18
nixternalm_tadeu: you might receive a better answer if you visit #synce02:18
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nixternalalthough there is only 1 person in that channel02:19
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m_tadeunixternal: would be nice, but noone there :)02:19
nixternalwhat issue are you having?02:19
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nixternalare you using syncekonnector02:19
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m_tadeunixternal: i'm in a previous fase...trying to use rapip02:20
KinGetanasensei; ok, so i'll just have to get used to using the console :) i'm still kinda stuck in the win time, so more used to grafical solutions, thanks, i'll give it a go o/02:20
senseiDoes anyone know of a debian package for icpld ?02:21
nixternalok m_tadeu you just confused me with all that...i have never used synce, as i just posted a comment from their website in my last question02:21
senseiOr ubuntu02:21
m_tadeunixternal: oki...thx anyway :)02:21
nixternalsorry i couldn't help on that one02:22
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m_tadeunixternal: its ok...btw, when iptables -L is enptry, it means that everything is open, right?02:23
senseiYes02:24
BKajthings seem ok now , I managed to get automatix installed and it installed my choices ...Yay !02:24
senseiWell, you could be running ipchains, but that's *highly unlikely*02:24
m_tadeuthx guys :)02:25
BKajbut I had to switch to 32 bit cuz the 64 wasn't working for my choices02:25
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CheeseBurgerManShould've used EasyUbuntu. :P02:26
CheeseBurgerManWorks quite well on amd6402:26
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BKajCheeseBurgerMan: too late now ...hindsight is 20-20 where were ya 6 hrs ago when i was asking for advice :)02:31
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CheeseBurgerMan6 hours ago I was...exercising. :P02:31
raytray25Konqueror isn't loading all the images on a website.02:31
CheeseBurgerManraytray25: Adblock turned on?02:31
raytray25actually yes.02:32
raytray25let me toggle that02:32
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raytray25Ah thanks. is there a way the images can load with ad block off?02:32
lucasallright i finally installed kubuntu! is there a way to install the nvidia driver patch?02:32
crimsunit's a known issue if you're using 3.5.3, raytray2502:33
CheeseBurgerManOw, glad I use Flock.02:33
crimsunthere's a fix for it02:33
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raytray25i'm using 3.5.2 if you talking about konqueror version...02:33
raytray25Where can i find the fix?02:34
crimsunhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12856602:34
raytray25is it the thing at the bottem that's called patch?02:35
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raytray25it opened an attachment.cgi02:36
raytray25what do i do with it?02:36
poopyheadthe kubuntu installer dies at the end when it tries to install grub, could it be that grub doesn't like the xfs partition?02:36
poopyheader, rather, my / is xfs and I don't have a separate boot, so does grub just not work on xfs or is it known to work?02:37
crimsungrub works with xfs02:37
poopyheadwell crap02:37
poopyheadI was hoping xfs was the problem, trying w/ ext3 now..02:38
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lucashi02:49
poopyheadah, it worked!02:49
lucasi cant install the nvidia drivers02:49
poopyheadgrub no likie xfs02:49
poopyheadcya, time to reboot02:49
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raytray25how do add the patch to konqueror?02:49
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avciblucas: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia02:49
senseiraytray25: Designate an hour or two in your calendar, get the source, use the 'patch' command, rebuild and enjoy02:49
lucasavcib: thank you.02:49
arcturus!nvidia02:49
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto02:49
raytray25sensei: i have time now, your not serious are you? source of konqueror?02:49
senseiI am02:49
raytray25Where do i find the source?02:50
senseiI don't know much about the kubuntu way of things, but if you're lucky, some kind soul will apply it and release an update soon02:50
senseiOh don't even go there ;) I'm not falling for this one. It's bound to break me down into tears02:50
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BKajhmmm, can't seem to find the keyboard config list in the hardware ...any sugestions ?02:52
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Tommy2k4how do i configure php to work with mysql02:53
Tommy2k4phpmyadmin works fine02:53
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sysbobhello02:54
sysbobcould someone please help me instal gimpshop on dapper?02:54
senseisysbob: You're asking for someone to hold your hand, or you have an actual question?02:55
sysbobwell i don't see the package anywhere02:55
sysbobonly rpms02:55
sysboband i converted the rpm to a deb and it givs me erros02:55
sysbobso i do't know what to try next02:56
Tommy2k4maybe try sudo apt-get install gimpshop02:56
sysbobgimpshop is not a package name02:56
sysbobin my sources02:56
senseihttp://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2  There you go02:56
Tommy2k4sudo apt-cache search gimpshop02:56
sysbobthat sudo command returns nothing02:57
lucasavcib: i dont have synaptic02:57
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sysbobsensi: is that tar file sources?02:57
senseiYes02:57
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sysbobi wouldn't know howto compile and install from sources02:57
Tommy2k4./configure02:58
Tommy2k4make02:58
senseiGoogle knows02:58
Tommy2k4sudo make install02:58
senseiAnd Tommy2k402:58
bimberis/sudo make install/checkinstall/02:58
bimberioops, *sudo checkinstall*02:58
bimberi!checkinstall02:58
ubotucheckinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall02:58
arcturushe needs to install certain install packages, right?02:58
arcturusutilities of some sort?02:58
senseiarcturus: Yes, hopefully they exist in the repos, otherwise he's left with sources02:59
arcturuswhat are they?02:59
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arcturussimply typing 'make' won't work02:59
arcturuswithout the compile utilities02:59
bimberi!compiling02:59
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)02:59
senseibuild-essensial03:00
senseibuild-essential even03:00
sysbobokay i am getting a bunch of different advice :(03:00
sysbobso untar the download step 103:01
sysbobthen ./compile .. ?03:02
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arcturusi think you need to: apt-get install build-essential03:02
arcturusthis makes the other stuff work03:02
senseisysbob: I really see no point in anyone of us sitting here and wite something that 1000000 of people already have written on sites found through google03:02
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Tommy2k4grr03:04
sysbobsensei: i would know where to begin without some help03:04
senseisudo apt-get install build-essential && tar -jxvf gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2 && cd gimpshop-2.2.11 && ./configure && make && checkinstall03:04
Tommy2k4could my pc get any slower03:04
senseiThere, hope you learned something and never have to ask this again.03:04
sysbob./configure is not in the package03:05
senseiThing is, most people don't. They're back here, a week later "How do I extract a .tar.bz2 file?".. and wait for someone to spoon feed them again03:05
senseiOk, so leave that part out then03:05
sysbobsudo make gives me errors no target specified03:05
sysbobno makefile found03:05
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sysboband i am in the right fdir03:06
senseisysbob: sh autogen.sh ?03:06
Tommy2k4well check03:06
Tommy2k4type ls03:06
sysbobgimpshop-2.2.103:06
sysbobit's not there03:06
senseiffs03:06
senseicd gimpshop-2.2.103:06
sysbobmakefile.msc is all03:07
sysbobmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.03:07
sysbobflashpc@flash:~/gimpshop/gimp-2.2.11$03:08
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jehnxHow can I change the auto-start options of programs?  I've got amaroK starting as soon as I log in, and I don't wish for it to.03:08
senseiOk, I don't know what kinf of package you've downloaded.. but when I downloaded that file, it surely gave me a configure script03:08
senseijehnx: Wild stab in the dark, check out ~/.kde/Autostart03:09
jehnxYeh, I looked in there but nothing is located in it.03:09
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jehnxThanks, though.  Anyone else have another idea?03:09
sysbobokay i ran ./confiure but make still give sme the no target error03:10
sysbobhrm hold on03:11
sysbobchecking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is requ03:11
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jehnxAlso, oftentimes I open programs, they appear in the taskbar as if they're loading, but they never do load, and eventually disappear from the taskbar.  Ideas on why?03:11
senseijehnx: I've 'discovered' that if you don't close a program when you log out/reboot, it's restore with the session next time you log in03:12
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senseiSo maybe try and close all apps, log out, and log back in, and see if they still autostart03:12
jehnxsensei: Ok, well maybe that's it, then, I'll give it a try next time I log out.  Thanks for your input.  :)03:13
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senseijehnx: Any time03:13
senseisysbob: So the natural thing to do is.. ?03:13
sysbobget xml-parser-pm03:14
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avcibjehnx: go to System Settings and select KDE Components. Then select Session Manager. You can select whether to restore or not your old session there.03:14
jehnxavcib: Will do.  thanks.  :)03:14
sensei-perl03:14
jehnxAlso, oftentimes I open programs, they appear in the taskbar as if they're loading, but they never do load, and eventually disappear from the taskbar.  Ideas on why?03:15
avcibjehnx: Also you can add applications to be excluded from sessions, you can add amarok there03:15
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jehnxavcib: All right.  It seems that when it opens it always wants a root password, too, as do a few other programs I open up, for some reason.03:15
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senseijehnx: It's because they sometimes need to update root owned files03:16
Tommy2k4im having the same problem03:16
Tommy2k4i right clicked a file and went edit as root03:16
Tommy2k4after like 2mins nothing has came up so i do it again03:16
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jehnxExactly, tommy2k4.03:16
Tommy2k4this time the kdesu box comes up so i type pw in and now after 2 mins kate still hasnt opened03:16
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Tommy2k4finally it opened03:17
Tommy2k4in kwrite instead of kate o_O03:17
vem0myea kwrite is sometimes more stable with root as user kate has issues :)03:18
Tommy2k4ah03:18
jehnxAnyone know why my sound would be very ... delayed?03:18
avcibTommy2k4: might be some problem with kdesu... try typing "kdesu kate path/to/file" from konsole and see what error it gives if any..03:18
jehnxLike, if an error pops up, it's a good half second to a second before I hear anything.  On another box, it comes up automatically with a sound.03:18
Tommy2k4avcib, its prolly cos my comp is going amazingly slow for some reason03:19
vem0mdrivers check them or reinstall or initialize them03:19
senseijehnx: artsd is a known pile of crap.. at least traditionally, don't know about later versions though03:19
vem0mreboot03:19
Tommy2k4ima try ctrl alt escape03:19
vem0mif that doesn't fix it then PANIC!03:19
senseivem0m: First thing to check is always sound daemons03:19
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sysbobso how do i find the package name for XML::Parser perl ?03:19
vem0mtrue :P03:19
jehnxI went into sound config, screwed with it a bit, etc.  I don't have any actual direct drivers for this onboard sound, though, unfortunately.03:20
senseisysbob: libxml-parser-perl03:20
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vem0mheh03:20
sysbobty ... how could i have found that name for myself so i wouldn't have had to ask?03:20
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jehnxThanks for you guys' help.  I'm out now.  :)  later03:21
senseisysbob: Good question, I like that attitude, unfortunately I cant tell you relly.. I 'just knew'03:21
senseiLater jehnx03:21
sysbob:(03:21
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muriloBoa Noite.03:21
sysbobconfigure: error: Test for GLIB failed.03:22
senseiWhat's the line under it?03:22
senseiIf any03:23
sysbobconfigure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.03:23
sysbobthat's all there is03:23
sysbobit's the last line03:23
Tommy2k4ive edited php.ini, how do i restart the php/mysql/apache server03:23
Tommy2k4or would ctrl alt backspace do that automatically03:23
senseisysbob: Hm, there should be a few lines above it03:23
senseiTommy2k4: No.. /etc/init.d/httpd restart03:24
senseior apache or whatever it may be called03:24
sysbobchecking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.5... no03:24
Tommy2k4bash: /etc/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory03:24
senseiTommy2k4: "or whatever it may be called"03:25
Tommy2k4o sry03:25
sysbobwhat is GLIB?03:25
Tommy2k4hm mysql still not working03:26
Tommy2k4Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 403:26
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sysbobPerl wrappers for the GLib utility and Object libraries03:26
senseisysbob: What does config.log say about glib ?03:27
senseiAnd just out of curiosity, what's the differnce between gimp and gimpshop ?03:28
sysbobconftest.c:49:18: error: glib.h: No such file or directory03:28
senseiOk, install libglib2.0-dev03:28
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sysbobconfigure:24296: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.503:28
sensei-dev means -development, and contains header files (.h)03:28
sysbobresult no03:28
senseiThose are needed for compiling stuff, while the libglib2.0 package provides the runtime libraries alone which the binaries are linked to03:29
sysboblibglib-perl in my package manager is a lower version than that03:29
senseiperl ?03:29
sensei21:28:41 < sensei> Ok, install libglib2.0-dev03:30
sysbobokay ... thanks ... so my question is still how would i know all this stuff?03:30
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senseiIf you pay close attention to what people (like me and others who help) say, and actually reflect upon it, you'll learn03:31
senseiAnd also, googling and trying (and failing) for yourself is a good way to learn03:31
sysbobbecause someone had said there were 100000 guides to this, and i can't even get the package names reuired to build down03:31
senseiActually, that was me03:32
sysboboh03:32
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senseiBut then I got bored and figured, what the heck, I'll cut him some slack03:32
sysbobwell thanks for helping me :)03:32
sysbobnow i need gtk+03:32
senseiNow, based on what we did with glib.. what do you suggest we install? :)03:33
sysbobwould that be the actual libs of the dev stuff?03:33
sysbobof = or03:33
mitulhi I am almost a noob. would this be the right channel to ask some basic question03:33
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sysbobi don't know the package name ...or how to find it03:34
senseisysbob: apt-cache search libgtk03:34
Tommy2k4Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 403:34
senseiAnd since we compile, we need .h files.. and .h files are found in -dev packages03:34
Tommy2k4why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine03:34
senseiTommy2k4: Maybe phpmyadmin doesn't use mysql_connect() o.O03:35
sysboboh geeez ...that gave me back 4 screens of results03:35
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senseisysbob: Then you pipe that output to your favourite 'pager'.. I suggest less03:35
Tommy2k4unlikely lol03:35
senseiAs in apt-cache search libgtk | less03:35
sysboblike } more03:35
sysbobor | more03:36
senseiYeah, or |more03:36
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sysbobstill, how do i pick out which packages out of that list to install?03:36
senseiWhat's the error message?03:36
senseiWhat version does it need, more exactly03:37
sysbobconftest.c:51:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory03:37
sysbobconfigure:24296: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.503:37
senseiThe output of the configure script03:37
sysboboops03:37
sysbobchecking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.4... no03:38
sysbobthere03:38
senseiOkay, so version 2 of libgtk03:38
sysboblibgtk2.0-dev then?03:38
senseiYaay03:39
leppardswhere is the config file for the screensavers module03:39
sysbobthat breaks things03:40
senseiBreaks what? :O03:40
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sysbobThe following packages have unmet dependencies: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.10.0-2) but it is not goi...03:40
sysbobDepends: libcairo2-dev but it is not go03:40
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senseiOh joy, now I'm starting to get lost.. I'm not all that familiar with apt actually03:41
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senseiIt won't give you the option to install anyways?03:41
senseiOr does it say why it won't install them?03:41
senseiGah, I only have 29% battery left03:43
Tommy2k4ffs still cant get mysql working03:44
sysbobno03:44
sysboblet me try snyaptic03:44
sysbobit says Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable ..03:44
sysbobE: Broken packages03:44
sysboband gives no options03:44
sensei:/ apt weirdness.. I just tried on my system, works here03:44
senseiBut you never answered my question, you owe me that :) What's the difference between gimp and gimpshop ?03:45
Hawkwindgimpshop is for more video stuff isn't it ?03:46
senseiAh ok03:46
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CheeseBurgerManNo, it's a hacked version of gimp made to look like photoshop.03:46
roadrunnerand it sucks =D03:46
roadrunnerRegular GIMP is better (Or regular photoshop)03:46
HawkwindAhhh, I was thinking gimpshop is what used to be called filmgimp03:47
sysbobDepends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed03:47
CheeseBurgerManHawkwind: That's now Cinepaint. ;)03:47
HawkwindCheeseBurgerMan: That's it.  I get confused in my old age :P03:48
CheeseBurgerManlol03:48
sysbobimpshop is gimp skinned into the photoshop interface03:48
roadrunnerYeah, but like I said, regular Gimp is definately better03:48
roadrunneror Regular photoshop03:48
sysbobso it's photoshop for linux03:48
CheeseBurgerManTo be honest, I found GimpShop weirder than regular Gimp.03:48
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roadrunnerI use Photoshop CS2 all the time on my windows machine and it is great. Gimp is also great and feature filled, but gimpshop just seemed to ruin it for me03:49
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CheeseBurgerManI use Gimp on Win & Kubuntu :P03:49
roadrunnerThey both have extremely high learning curves, pick one and stick with it. I honestly think Gimp is a great contender for photoshop.03:49
roadrunnerMe too Cheeseburger. I am brand new to Kubuntu, I always used Gimp on XP03:49
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roadrunnerI am an A+ certified guy, lol, I always used windows. But I discovered I was using more and more open source stuff, so why not go all out? Overall I think Photoshop CS2 does indeed beat out the Gimp, but it is very very close03:50
sysbobsensi: thanks for the help :)03:50
senseiOkay, I'm sorry, but as I said, I'm no apt-ninja.. and this is package manager hell! What you could do is install libgtk manually from source.. or find someone who knows his way around apt to sort that out for you.. I gotta save some battery as I'm on my way to a huge presentation in a minute or two03:50
senseisysbob: I won't say 'any time'.. but no prolem ;)03:50
senseiLaters03:50
sysbobcya03:51
roadrunnerHey, I have a, hopefully, simple question pertaining to music03:52
OODalright03:52
CheeseBurgerManHopefully you ask it soon so it can be answered. :P03:53
roadrunnerI just switched to Linux as I said, and I connected my Ipod and opened Amarok. I basically just want to copy all of my music off of my Ipod and burn it to my library in Amarok03:53
roadrunnerI was just going to copy/paste it from my opod but then they have sensless crappy filenames and are in no way organized03:53
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OODhave you updated amarok to 1.4 ?03:54
roadrunnerUm... I guess not03:54
roadrunnerI have whatever came with Kubuntu... the newest version03:54
roadrunnerlemme check my Amarok version03:54
CheeseBurgerManI *think* that's 1.3.903:54
OODthat might help, i think there's better support for ipods03:54
roadrunner1.3.9, you are correct03:54
roadrunnercan I update within Amarok, or how should I update it?03:55
CheeseBurgerMan!amarok03:55
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php03:55
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OODhere: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php03:55
OODthen just fetch updates and upgrade03:56
OODdamm i got beaten to it :P03:56
roadrunnererm... how? lol03:56
CheeseBurgerManhehe03:56
roadrunnerIm looking at it now03:56
roadrunnerI am a complete linux nub =D03:56
OODrun those 2 lines in konsole03:56
OODthen go to adept and add that third line to the repository03:57
roadrunnersee, that's weird to switch to, lol03:57
CheeseBurgerManroadrunner: add one of the repos to /etc/apt/sources.list then run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'03:57
roadrunnerWindows, you download everything and run the installer...03:57
OODyea03:57
roadrunnerits kinda weird to learn to do everything with the prompt =D03:57
roadrunnerI like it... I like prompts... It's just I have to learn all over again >_<03:57
CheeseBurgerManYou don't have to, it's just easier to explain. :P03:57
OODyea i felt the same way03:57
roadrunnerok, I ran the first command it downloaded something without a problem03:59
roadrunnerthen I ran the second line and got this03:59
roadrunnerroadrunner@roadrunner-desktop:~$ deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main03:59
roadrunnerbash: deb: command not found03:59
CheeseBurgerManUh, you add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list03:59
OODyea, the 1 line you wrote is actually 203:59
roadrunneroh, lol04:00
roadrunnerI copy/paste...  my bad =D04:00
roadrunnerso writing the other line in etc/apt/sources.list is essentially the same as going into the Adept manager, going to mange repositories, and then adding that URL to the server list, right?04:00
OODyes04:01
CheeseBurgerManYep04:01
roadrunnerok, cool... So I could have done this within the gui... I am slowly catching on ^_^04:01
OODadept is basically a GUI for apt-get04:01
CheeseBurgerManJust more universal to debian based distros, and easier for me to explain. :)04:01
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roadrunnerI never really understood that...04:01
CheeseBurgerManUnderstood what?04:01
roadrunnerthe principal behind typing apt-get install nameofsomething04:02
Muki-DAAnyone know where I can find the ffmpeg plugin for k3b?04:02
roadrunnerwhat is apt-get? Just something that lets you download packages?04:02
zblachroadrunner: download & install04:02
Hobbsee!apt-get04:02
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)04:02
CheeseBurgerManroadrunner: It automagically installs a package and it's dependancies.04:02
OODyesh, and Adept is just a GUI for it04:02
OODautomagically, lol04:02
zblachand Synaptic is a better GUI for it ;)04:02
roadrunnerAlright. I figured out how to use the GUI, but I am one that wants to know how to do it myself =D04:02
CheeseBurgerMan:D04:03
OODi hate Synaptic04:03
vem0mi use apt-get or adept04:03
OODbut that's just me ;P04:03
roadrunnerapt-get just means to download it... then install says to install whatever you just download. Then the filename is the package you want to download or install, right?04:03
CheeseBurgerManI never bother using Adept/Synpatic. They're both fine, but Yakuake makes using apt-get more convenient.04:03
zblachYakuake?04:03
OODroadrunner: no apt-get is the program name04:03
CheeseBurgerManYeah, it's a quake style console.04:04
roadrunner... so you use the first command, apt-get to tell it that's the program you are using... then install filename simply tells it which file you want to install?04:04
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CheeseBurgerManIt scrolls down from the top of your screen, and you can type in your commands as you would in any other terminal. (konsole for example)04:04
Muki-DAapt-getting it now =304:04
roadrunnerand it just browses the repositories you have added in the source.list file?04:04
vem0mjust use terminal and apt-get then lmao04:04
OODroadrunner: ues basically04:04
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OODwhatever you can do in Adept, you can do with apt-get in the command line04:05
TheHighChildanyone using psi?04:05
CheeseBurgerManWhat's PSI?04:06
CheeseBurgerMan(that would be a 'no' from me)04:06
TheHighChildCheeseBurgerMan: It's an Instant Messenger04:07
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CheeseBurgerManOh04:07
vem0mi use gaim04:07
vem0m:P04:07
roadrunnerok, so anyways, I added that to the sources.list file, now what do I do to install it?04:07
lucasi can't access my floppy drive in konqueror04:07
CheeseBurgerManroadrunner: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'04:08
OODor just press the fetch updated button in adept ;)04:08
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kenny!qt04:08
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.04:09
kennyi should really memorize that package name lol..04:09
zblachlib cutie three empty dev04:09
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OOD*tries cs2 in wine* let's see how this goes04:10
roadrunnerum... when I hit fatch updates, it went through the updates, then all of my packages dissapeard04:10
roadrunnernow there aren't any packages showing in adept04:10
OODadept's a little buggy04:10
TheHighChildOOD: let me know. I've heard lots of good things04:10
OOD restart it04:10
roadrunnerok04:10
kennykde headers = ?04:10
OODkenny: it's kde-devel or something like that04:11
CheeseBurgerMan!headers04:11
ubotuTo install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages04:11
CheeseBurgerMan!kdeheaders04:11
lucas!mp304:11
ubotuI know nothing about kdeheaders04:11
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:11
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kennyOOD: found it it's kdebase-dev just had to see it to remember04:12
SystematicDubhey all, ok I have a dumb question.  For the DVD kubuntu cds can you have a disk drive and play them or do you need a dvd drive?  Oh, or is it called DVD kubuntu because it's larger so it needs a DVD-RW too work?04:12
OODdvd's can only be read in dvd drives04:13
CheeseBurgerManThe DVD version of Kubuntu you need to have a DVD drive. If you don't, get a CD version.04:13
roadrunnerrofl04:13
cpk1SystematicDub: are you answering your question inside your question? either they are CD's or DVD's04:13
cpk1SystematicDub: if its a dvd you need a dvd drive04:13
cpk1if its a cd you can have either04:13
lucashey i cant hear anything when i play it in amarok04:14
driz!offtopic04:14
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!04:15
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CheeseBurgerManubotu: tell lucas about restrictedformats04:18
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roadrunnerok... now, I have 1.4... how do I rip all my music from my Ipod?04:18
kakaltowoo!04:19
kakalto^-^04:19
roadrunnerI can play it on my computer... but I want to add it to my library and stuff seperated by Artist/Album... just like WMP used to do04:19
kakaltojapanese input is great04:19
kakalto=))04:19
OODroadrunner: go to options and autodetect media device04:19
OODroadrunner: i'm just guessing here since i don't have an iPod ;)04:19
SystematicDubok I meant (and yes that first question was answered in a question :-) ) that I would need a dvd-rw if I were to download a kubuntu dvd.04:20
roadrunneroh, it detected it and everything04:20
SystematicDubhehe sorry I'm so confusing04:20
roadrunnerand it is listed in my "collection"04:21
roadrunnerbut the music is still residing on my Ipod, not my harddrive04:21
roadrunnerI want to copy it somewhere on my harddrive... but Im not seeing any way to do that04:21
roadrunnerAmarok automatically detected the Ipod, so that wasn't a problem... I just don't have any way of getting music off of it04:21
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roadrunnerdoes anyone here use an Ipod with linux?04:25
CheeseBurgerMan!ipod04:26
CheeseBurgerManmaybe04:26
ubotuFor information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto04:26
CheeseBurgerManHmm, maybe that?04:26
roadrunnerIll look at it... it seems like that is for adding music... I want to rip my music FROM the ipod TO my pc04:27
CheeseBurgerManI know, but it _may_work backwards.04:28
roadrunnerwell, sorta... I ripped music to it, but the ipod renames the file names and places them all in one folder04:28
bur[n] erroadrunner: ever use "yamipod" ?04:28
roadrunnerI want a way to rip them from the media player, that way they will be organized with the Artist/Album/TrackName04:28
OODill be back soon, gonna reboot into xp (whoah haven't done that in ages :P)04:28
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OODeh?04:29
roadrunnerHe doesn't think rebooting into windows is a wise idea =D04:29
bur[n] erjust teasin OOD ;)04:29
roadrunnerlol... because windows sucks04:29
OODyesh i see :P04:29
OODcs2 refuses to install in wine, so gonna install it in windows and see how it runs in wine :P04:29
roadrunnerlol... I love CS204:30
roadrunnerthat is the only thing I am going to miss about my Windows installation04:30
bur[n] ersilly gamers ;)04:30
roadrunner(I removed it completely)04:30
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zblachlol04:30
roadrunnerCS2? I thought he was referring to Photoshop CS204:30
roadrunnernot a video game...04:30
zblachcs04:30
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bur[n] eraww... I meant to ask ood if he has the latest wine04:30
bur[n] eroh well04:30
roadrunnerhe said he would be back04:31
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nxv_hi04:41
arcturushas anyone used Istabul?04:42
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nxv_how can i easily encode a video from my digicam? my camera takes small avis. I like to encode them with divx. in windows moviemaker does this. how to do it in linux?04:42
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arcturusoops, that's Istanbul04:43
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zblachi can't even get my webcam working in linux04:44
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zblachood. you weren'tgone long. enough for only one crash04:44
bimberi!webcam04:45
OODlol, i'm still in windows04:45
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:45
OODgonan reboot now :D04:45
Kingbuzzo!zaurus04:45
ubotuI know nothing about zaurus04:45
hareemcan some one tell me how to time a session04:46
hareemideally setup for internet cafe04:47
bimberi!info kivio04:47
ubotukivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 526 kB, installed size 1752 kB04:47
bimberinote - that wasn't related to any recent question in the channel :)04:47
hareemdoes any one know how to setup kubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment04:48
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zblach!webcam04:52
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:52
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OODno luck so far :(04:55
hareemdoes any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment04:56
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OODubuntu autodetects dhcp if that's what you mean04:57
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zblach!webcam05:02
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras05:02
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drizhey people Ukupacha is a windows user can anyone show him the way cause i tried and nothing05:03
drizplease help05:03
Ukupachahey! how are you so sure that the way isn't windows?05:04
drizno flaming remember man05:04
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TheHighChildanyone using PSI?05:09
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hareemdoes any one know how to setup kubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment05:11
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ubuntu_what are your thoughts? kubuntu 6.06 or suse 10.1?05:34
HawkwindAsking that in #Kubuntu  surely no one is going to say SuSe.  Go ask that elsewhere05:35
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danielfariathe point is not which one will people say05:35
danielfariabut their arguments for saying that05:36
danielfariaim new to linux05:36
danielfariaand im trying both05:36
OODsuse takes 5 times as long to download05:36
HawkwindBecause most everyone in here runs Kubuntu and not SuSe.  It's not rocket science05:36
HawkwindThen try both and decide what best suits YOU05:36
danielfariai know very little about linux05:37
danielfariai dont know what is better, they both look the same05:37
HawkwindLike I said, try them both and see what works best for YOU.  Only you can decide that05:37
danielfariaOOD: i already downloaded them, so this is not an issue anymore lol05:37
danielfariai know that, i said i dont have the minimum kknowledge to see what is different among them05:38
OODyou'd be able to tell from trying them both05:39
HawkwindYou'll see the differences as you use them05:39
OODyea05:39
elknof1hey   hi everybody, does anyone knows what is difussion gate??  on net preferences...05:39
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eqisowDoes anybody know when amaroK 1.4.1 will be added to the Kubuntu.org repositories?06:10
drizdont know sorry06:10
navidI installed ubuntu but then changed my mind and installed the kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu thoroughly. Now I can't have kdm as my display manager and every time I boot the computer it reaches runlevel 4 and then I have to type " startx ". Any way to set KDM as my display manager?06:11
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drizi'm the only one awake here i think and i dont know what your talking about sorry06:12
eqisowI'm afraid I'm not sure either, although I'm certain it's possible06:13
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navidThanks anyway06:14
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drizcome back in the morning06:14
eqisowbtw, I've compiled a .deb for amarok 1.4.1 on my Dapper system if anybody is feeling brave. it includes support for last.fm radio streams. :)06:15
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OODi might, but i'd need to download the kde header files and they take up a lot of space06:16
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unix_infidelhey guys for some reason the openbox.deb didnt create any config files for me not even the defaults.06:33
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matt___!win32codecs06:36
ubotuI know nothing about win32codecs06:36
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hey560hi, has anyone made amarok 1.4.1 package yet?06:41
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eqisowI have, but I've only tested it on my system06:41
eqisowI posted it on the amaroK wiki, if you want to give it a whirl and let me know how it goes06:42
hey560whats the link?06:42
eqisowhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok06:42
hey560thanks,06:43
eqisowyw06:43
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hey560if i wanted to build the package myself how would i debianize the source package?06:44
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eqisowdo you know how to compile stuff normally?06:45
eqisowif so, when you get to the make install step, use 'sudo checkinstall -D make install' instead06:46
eqisowyou'll need to install checkinstall, of course06:46
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nemo_Anyone know if I can get a driver to work woth the lexmark x2470? lexmark doesn't have any linux drivers for this model06:47
hey560yes i know how to compile06:47
hey560so just that command eh06:47
eqisowthat's it06:47
eqisowit will create the deb in the source directory06:48
hey560awsome thanks, i'll give it a shot!06:48
eqisowgl06:48
eqisownemo_, search linuxprinting.org for your printer06:48
eqisowthey have a fairly comprehensive database06:48
nemo_ok will do thank you06:48
antraxwho have a cd key of vmware workstations 5.5.106:49
eqisowand for future reference, HP is the way to go. :)06:49
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nemo_do they have all in ones that work in linux?06:49
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antraxi need install the simulator exam CCNA and router simulator06:50
hey560do i need to dpkg remove the old amarok?06:51
eqisowyeah, you'll need to remove the old amarok first06:51
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eqisownemo, do you mean HP? If so, yes, they have the best Linux support06:52
nemo_cool, Then maybe I'll just sell this one and go buy an HP06:52
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Fiya_werkinwhat's it mean when kaffeine gives no plugin found for this source dvd:/06:55
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CaptainMorganI can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas?06:56
Muki-DAWhereTF is kaudioripper ripping TO?06:57
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eqisowMuki-DA, wherever you tell it to. Check the configuration06:58
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Muki-DAUnder "Ripper", all I saw was the location for the temporary directory06:59
Muki-DAThere's also nothing under "Encoder"06:59
eqisowlook under Encoder :)06:59
eqisowmiddle section "Encoded File Location"06:59
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Muki-DATHERE we go =307:00
eqisowCaptainMorgan, I would suggest using Automatix to install multimedia codecs for you07:00
CaptainMorganno familar with that program...?07:01
Muki-DAIf I don't set a temp location, will it just write the file in realtime, or will it make a temp file in some pre-specified location?07:01
eqisowif that doesn't work, try VLC or MPlayer, they'll play pretty much everything07:01
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eqisowI'm not 100% on that Muki07:01
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CaptainMorgan eqisow adepts desc on VLC - "for all audio and video formats" :)07:03
CaptainMorganoops... eqisow - VLC does the same thing - sound but no display.......07:03
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hey560darn, no FLAC support in amarok 1.4.107:05
hey560or i might've compiled it wrong07:05
CaptainMorganeqisow: Mplayer does the same thing.... wtf?07:05
OODyea i read something about needed some extra.. something for flac07:05
eqisowCaptain, give this a shot07:06
eqisowhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19002507:06
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eqisowwhen you run it, select to install multimedia codecs and the non-free audio and dvd codecs,07:07
CaptainMorganeqisow: says something about not using that version if you're running Kubuntu07:10
eqisowhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=20329407:13
eqisowsorry Captain, wrong thread07:13
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Zaireok just out of curiosity Cedega is under the same GPL and GNU and other linux software right07:15
eqisowumm, sort of07:15
eqisowCedega is GPL, since it's derived from Wine it pretty much has to be07:15
eqisowbut the Point2Play GUI is not07:15
Zairewell if thats the case then they can't legally charge you money without having a free version then07:16
hey560cedega is not GPL is it?07:16
hey560i thought the Cedega guys got the wine code when it was under freeBSD07:16
Zaireits a part of the wine corp so Im guess yes07:16
eqisowit is, the source of Cedega is available07:16
eqisowhowever, it doesn't include things like support for copy protected CD's07:16
eqisowsince that stuff requires licensing fees07:16
hey560the code is freely available07:17
hey560but its not GPL07:17
Zairesource isnt of much use if you don't know how to use it and they kinda scatter the files around to make it more difficult to get07:17
sjaGPL software is free as in speech, not as in beer -- perfectly legal to charge for open source software07:17
hey560http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega07:17
eqisowah, good catch hey56007:18
eqisowwasn't aware of that07:18
Zaireits only legal to charge for the software if you make a copy availabe like I said07:18
sjaYou can always charge ... just like Suse and Red Hat do (boxed versions) ...07:18
ZaireI mean even the base min a demo which they got rid of that I guess07:18
sjathe only caveat is that you must make the source available upon request ...07:19
Zaireya but you can get suse and redhat precompiled to07:19
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sjamany open source products are commercial07:19
hey560ya i was shocked when i read that cedega isn't GPL07:19
hey560its so cheap of them07:19
eqisowhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193814&highlight=cvscedega07:19
eqisowin case anybody is interested in compiling cedega from cvs07:19
Zaireyea makes me very angry07:19
hey560i tried through CVS, and got fed up, so i bought it07:20
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hey560lol07:20
hey5605 dollars only07:20
ZaireI don't want to have to renew it all the time though07:20
eqisowyou don't have to, unless you want a new version :/07:20
Zaireexactly thats kinda the prob07:20
eqisowTry Wine first though, it runs a surprising ammount of games now07:21
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eqisowit even runs some much better than Cedega07:21
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Zairewould is run BF2 or halflife 2 and 107:21
Zaireit*07:21
eqisowI know it runs hl1 very well07:21
eqisowI've heard mixed results with hl207:22
eqisowand I'm pretty sure BF2 is a no go07:22
eqisowcheck http://appdb.winehq.org though07:22
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eqisowbut, fyi, HF2 runs very slow even with Cedega07:22
OODWine's gonna put Cedega out of bussiness soon :D07:23
eqisowit's barely playable on my 680007:23
Zairewell it has to be able to play BF2 for sure cause thats one of the games I play a lan parties07:23
jewels9321OOD: got a question....i am trying to run myst in wine and i got quicktime from adept. but now it is saying that i need to run quicktime in windows and it is not detecting that i already installed it..... i need get titanic game running but i think there was a bug in the game....would you know what i should do with this quicktime thing?07:23
eqisowabout 30 FPSish an 1024 res and lowish settings07:23
ZaireI would like to know what happened to project David07:23
jewels9321i did get the titanic game running..... that is what i meant07:23
OODjewels9321: the problem is you got linux quicktime, and linux and windows programs can't be mixed like that, you have to get quick time for windows07:24
Zairetransgaming sux07:24
OODjewels9321: and install it with wine07:24
jewels9321OOD: okay... sounds good....07:25
Zaireeqisow: check the link http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS/07:26
jewels9321OOD: wine keeps on crashing when I try the games.....are you a wine developer?;)07:26
eqisowZaire: access forbidden? oO07:26
MistaEDeqisow: i found when setting up the vertex vram setting and other options that my framerate went up and was able to run at full DX8-level graphics with my 6800GT at a playable framerate07:26
Zaireyea07:26
Zairewth is with that07:26
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MistaEDgranted it's about double the framerate with DX9 under windows though07:27
OODjewels9321: me? never :P coding isn't my thing07:27
eqisowshrug07:27
MistaEDit's fine for when you just want to play multiplayer and not want to boot into windows07:27
eqisowMistaED, thanks. I'll try that07:27
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OODd3d support is still iffy in wine, it'll get better though07:28
Zairewhat is the big difficulty in getting a program to integrate the exe compat with linux damn its frustrating07:28
jewels9321OOD: is your real name Ouch of death on kubuntu forums07:28
OODjewels9321: yes, that'd be me :D07:29
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jewels9321OOD: I knew it.... xeno and i thought so07:29
eqisowZaire, it's much more than that. The main issue is implementing the DX API and translating Direct 3D system calls into OpenGL07:29
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jewels9321OOD: I've finally got the hang of working these games in wine, but i keep on having problems still but i have the concepts right07:30
ZaireI hopes it makes big advances soon cause I don't wanna have ta use winblows at the next lan but may not have to anyway may be getting mac OS x86 for that lol07:30
OODmac0S? even worse :D07:31
OODyou won't even have 3d accelaration :P07:31
ZaireX86 may be slightly better dunno07:31
Zaireyea you can if you have an ATI card07:31
OODnah, hardware compatiblity would kill you, if you have an nvidia you get no 3d accel07:31
jewels9321OOD: Is there anyway that you think you could get the dependencies working on the kq4 thing again sometime for me?07:31
Zairegonna build a new system before the lan with and ati X1900 crossfire07:32
eqisowATI :/07:32
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ZaireATI has drivers for mac07:32
eqisowah, I thought you meant for a Linux system07:32
OODjewels9321: yea sure07:33
Jack1guys can u help me ?07:33
eqisowwe'll try Jack, what's up?07:33
Zairenah this is my linux system my other is gonna be mac cause pretty much anything is better then winblows07:33
LionRockhi07:33
jewels9321OOD: cool, whenever you're ready to do it for me let me know....07:33
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Jack1firestarter says to me (network) that it has as devces eth0 (ethernet), ppp0 (internet), sit0 (IPv6 Tunnel) so i wonder if i have three active internet connections?07:35
eqisowno07:35
Jack1eth0 and ppp0 have the same activity in kb/s07:35
Jack1?07:35
eqisowpp0 is the modem07:35
Jack1is this allright?07:35
eqisowppp0*07:35
Jack1episow i mean its ok as it is?07:36
Jack1eqisow i mean07:36
eqisowseems fine to me :)07:36
OODjewels9321: another time, i gotta go07:40
CaptainMorgannothing works eqisow07:40
CaptainMorganI got every player know installed it seems07:40
CaptainMorganknown07:40
CaptainMorganALL producing sound with no display07:41
eqisowhmm, where is this file from?07:41
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CaptainMorganregular .mpg07:41
CaptainMorgantried more than one .mpg as well07:41
CaptainMorganwon't play a single .mpg07:41
CaptainMorganerr.. won't display a single .smpg07:41
eqisowhmm..07:42
Zairetry this apt-get install vlc07:42
eqisoware you running XGL by chance?07:42
Zairevlc will play nearly everything07:42
CaptainMorganZaire: already have VLC installed and it does the same thing07:42
Zairedamn07:42
Zairenot much it won07:42
Zairewon't*07:42
CaptainMorgangotta be a codecs issue... yet Kaffeine played .mpg's before... and I have the necessary codecs.. I dunno07:43
jbrouhardHrm07:43
jbrouharddamnit07:43
jbrouhardkftpgrabber crashed repeatedly on me07:43
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krinnshi all07:43
krinnsi want to do printer filtering07:44
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krinnsmeans i have 4 dept and am authenticating my user through ldap07:44
krinnsnow what i want is one dept user cant print from 2 dept printer07:44
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CaptainMorganthis sux07:47
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krinnshelo07:51
krinnsany one knows abt07:51
morrowyou mean apt?07:52
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Countryboymm08:01
|lostbyte|GoodMorning :-OZzzzz..08:02
Countryboyanyone know how to copy all files in a dir from a cd to a place on my hd what would the command be?08:03
nixternalcp -r /media/cdrom/* /dir_you_want_to_copy_to08:04
nixternalor you can use konqueror08:04
nixternalright click-copy and paste08:04
Countryboywhats the star?08:04
nixternalthat means everything08:04
CountryboyI know it means wild card but I mean that would copy all files from the cd-r to my hd, I mean with in a dir on the cd rom08:04
nixternaleverything in the /media/cdrom/ directory08:05
nixternalyes sir08:05
nixternaland the -r will even copy directories over if they need to be08:05
CountryboyI need it from this /media/cdrom/backups08:05
Chryseus*sigh*08:05
Chryseusthen you type that in :)08:05
Countryboytried and it says ommiting the dir08:06
nixternalcd into the directory you want to copy everything to..then type08:06
nixternalcp -r /media/cdrom/backups/* .08:06
nixternalcopy and paste that in your command line08:06
Countryboykk08:07
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Countryboycd@cd-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$ cp -r /media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives08:08
Countryboycp: missing destination file operand after `/media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives'08:08
CountryboyTry `cp --help' for more information.08:08
Countryboycd@cd-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$08:08
Countryboyoops08:08
Countryboysorry08:08
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Countryboymeant for paste bin08:09
Countryboybut thats the error I get anyways08:09
Chryseusnotice the . in the end?08:09
nixternalexactly08:09
nixternalyou didn't specify a place to copy to..the    .   means paste it right here in the directory im in08:09
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Countryboythe . or *08:10
Chryseus.08:10
Countryboyi don't see a dot08:10
nixternalhey Countryboy..are you copying to /var/cache/apt/archives?08:10
nixternalyou need to do08:11
Countryboyyes nixternal08:11
nixternalsudo cp -r /media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives/* .08:11
Countryboyand im sorry im stoned and hurting.. Ususally it doesn't take me this long to catch on lol.08:11
nixternalhaha08:11
Chryseus:)08:11
nixternalgood times08:11
Countryboylol08:11
CountryboyI don't think I could tie my own shoes right now lol08:11
Countryboybrb need a dip08:12
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Countryboyok back I got the munchies08:22
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unix_infidelhey guys, is it possible to get two cursors going with two mice in KUbuntu?08:23
unix_infidel(i'm abidextrous :P)08:23
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unix_infideli'm assuming you just create a second xorg.conf section for Mouse2 linked to whatever /dev node udev creats?08:24
Countryboynixternal: that last command u said didn't work08:24
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nixternalyou got another error?08:24
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Countryboycp: missing destination file operand after `/media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives/*.'08:25
CountryboyTry `cp --help' for more information.08:25
nixternalunix_infidel: i have no clue, never ever heard any thing like that in my life ;)08:25
unix_infidelnixternal: its not common :)08:25
nixternalahh.08:25
nixternalCountryboy: put a space after * and before .08:25
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Countryboythx that did the trick08:26
Countryboydamn im dumb when I'm ^08:26
nixternalhehe08:27
Countryboynew to ubuntu, installed kubuntu about 10 min b4 I got on here.08:27
nixternalhehe08:27
nixternalwelcome to the community Countryboy08:27
CountryboyI had to edit the kppp noauth crap just to be able to get on internet with dialup lol, ubuntu u didn't have 208:27
nixternalglad to have another hillbilly around ;)08:28
Countryboythx nixternal08:28
nixternalalthough i am a yankee, im a hillbilly at heart08:28
Countryboy:)08:28
Countryboythis turkey chilli taste nasty08:28
Countryboyso where ya from nixternal08:30
nixternalchicago08:30
jbrouhardaw, crap08:30
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jbrouhardnixternal is not 6 hours from where I live.08:30
nixternalyou know it08:30
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jbrouhardGives me another excuse to save up on airfare and go shoot him :)08:30
Countryboyscruff mc scruff here, chicago iL 62660, take a bite out of crime08:30
Countryboynot sure about zip lol08:31
nixternalnot even close08:31
Countryboybut cool nixternal08:31
CountryboyTN here08:31
nixternali might be moving to pidgen forge one of these days ;)08:31
Countryboylol, ya been here?08:31
nixternalyup08:32
Countryboycool08:32
Countryboyand ya like it?08:32
Countryboywell I know ya do, but I mean ya like it enough to move here and not some where else? lol why here08:32
nixternalit's ok..oh well..back to work...gl Countryboy and welcome to kubuntu08:32
Countryboy<can't type when im high either lol08:33
Countryboythx bro08:33
jbrouhardTMI08:33
Countryboytake care08:33
jbrouhardi think this should be in #offtopic tho :)08:33
nixternal;)08:33
Countryboywhats tmi mean?08:33
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Countryboyto restart X in kde is it still ctrl+alt+backspace08:34
MelchiorreCountryboy: Too much infor08:35
Melchiorre*mation08:35
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CountryboyI guess, so the restart X thing?08:35
Melchiorreyes08:35
nixternalctrl + alt + backspace08:35
nixternalthat is correct08:36
Countryboyroger08:36
Countryboythx08:36
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CountryboyOdd I added my back up files of var/cache/apt/archives files and nvidiaglx was one of them, but it says E: couldn't find packge ect ect.08:38
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Countryboywhats this mean08:41
CountryboyBuilding dependency tree... Done08:41
CountryboyPackage nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.08:41
CountryboyThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or08:41
Countryboyis only available from another source08:41
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Jack1 is someone experienced with gimp? i just have a picture and want to insert a textline into it ...how to do?08:51
_rince_mrgn08:52
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defryskJack1, click the T in the gimp toolbox , its the add text button08:57
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Jack1defrysk yes, i saw that the prob is i cannot move the box with the where i want!08:59
defryskJack1, klick after klicking on the T in the toolbox the picture on the place whre you want to add txt it wil add the txt there then09:02
MelchiorreJack1: use the 'move selection' tool (M) and click on the text to move it09:02
defryskMelchiorre, thanks  09:02
Melchiorrenp ;)09:02
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Jack1Melchiorre defrysk thx guys it worked09:05
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MelchiorreJack1, cool!09:06
|lostbyte|Is it possible to have dif wallpapers on diff desktops ?09:07
|lostbyte|KDE !09:07
Melchiorre|lostbyte|: absolutely09:07
Jack1Melchiorre how can i go a step back? make a change unhappen?09:08
Melchiorre|lostbyte|: there's a dropdown box on the background config screen that lets you choose what desktop your configuring, or all09:08
|lostbyte|Melchiorre, how is that ?09:09
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MelchiorreJack1: Ctrl+Z should work09:09
Zairewell if it isnt lostbyte lol thanks for the suggestion on removing one of my ram chips lol that was the prob with my kubuntu crashing lol09:09
|lostbyte|Melchiorre, Ahh ! ok.. thanks.09:09
Zaireprob would have been beating my head against my keyboard after buying a new vidcard lol09:09
Jack1right Melchiorre file revert, both works i guess, thx09:10
|lostbyte|Melchiorre, Arg ! i am on xgl :(09:10
Melchiorre|lostbyte|: ahh, no idea then... sorry :(09:11
Redeive installed apache2 via apt, and im wondering how i can get it to start automatically. also if i run the command "sudo apache2" it starts and works, but " sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" has the same output the server doesnt start, is this normal?09:11
Zairenow all I need is to figure out how to get Nvidia twinview to work lol09:11
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MelchiorreJack1: heh, true...09:11
|lostbyte|ok ..09:11
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MelchiorreRede: Apache should be configured to start at boot automatically...09:12
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MelchiorreRede: does it not start, or are you just checking that it does?09:12
lowtech!twinview > lowtech09:12
ubotuI know nothing about twinview09:12
Redeif i install "apache" it does. if i install "apache2" it doesnt09:13
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Zaire!twinview09:13
Melchiorrehmmm09:13
ubotuI know nothing about twinview09:13
Zairenothing damn09:13
Zaireits tricky I know that much09:13
Redeim just using my browser to check by typing my ip09:13
lowtech!nvidia > lowtech09:13
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Healot!find apache09:14
ubotuFound: apache2, apache2-common, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 147 others)09:14
Healot!info apache2-common09:14
ubotuapache2-common: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 767 kB, installed size 3048 kB09:14
Healot!find twinview09:15
ubotuNo packages matching 'twinview' could be found09:15
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Zaire!nvidia09:15
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto09:15
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Zaireok thats drivers and no twinview wierd09:15
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sonicHi there, can anyone help me set up my system mail?09:16
lowtechZaire: it must not be too dificult, Hawkwind had his going pretty quickly09:16
Redejust tried a "sudo ps x" after stopping apache2 (sudo apache2 -k stop) and executing "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" and apache2 is not a running process09:16
nixternalZaire: if you search for twinview in either the ubuntuforums or the wiki, there are a couple of pages with twinview info09:16
Redebut if i type "sudo apache2" it is09:16
SpAwNhappy 4th of july all(that celebrate it)09:16
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Zaireyea I didn't have much luck after about 2 hours lastnight and 2 hours at noon today09:16
Healotsonic: which mail agent you're trying to install?09:16
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sonicHealot: Not sure, the default one?09:17
MilhousePunkRockG'morning everyone09:17
sonicHealot: Whichever will let me get system mail09:17
MilhousePunkRockWhat's the best way to upgrade KTorrent to 2.0 for a noob like me?09:17
MelchiorreRede: I've never had a problem with apache2 starting, and I'm not sure how to manually configure it to start... anyone else know...?09:17
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Zairenothing when I type twinview into the ubuntu wiki site09:18
Healot!find exim09:18
ubotuFound: exim4-doc-html, adduser-plugin-eximconf, adduser-plugin-eximconf4, exim, exim-doc (and 14 others)09:18
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Healot!find postfix09:19
ubotuFound: bld-postfix, gforge-mta-postfix, postfix-gld, postfix-policyd, postfix-smtpguard (and 7 others)09:19
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Zairenothing on twinview what so ever on kubuntu or ubuntu wiki site search09:21
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HealotZaire: since it's an nvidia thing, how about nvidia's site?09:22
Healotubuntuforum maybe?09:22
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nixternalZaire: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview09:22
sonicHealot: was that postfix stuff for me?09:23
nixternalZaire: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=6510981   <- this is the twinview search09:23
Redealso, the command executes but there is no resulting output. "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop" does work though09:23
Zairek I look cause nvidia site has nothin for linux that I can find so far09:24
nixternalnvidia's site is rather blah for linux support truthfully09:24
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Healotsonic:, you can choose either i) postfix or ii) exim4 to setup your mail server09:27
Zaireok now Im in business this help looks good so far09:27
sonicHealot: Could you help me set up Postfix?09:27
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eXCeSSanyone have any idea why my friggen kubuntu install forgets my power saving options every reboot09:30
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eXCeSSaka turn my monitor off after 15 minutes of me not being around09:30
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Healotsonic: unfortunately, no09:33
sonicHealot: Ok, cheers anyway09:33
Healothere is another one that Linuxers usually use09:33
Healot!info sendmail09:33
ubotusendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In repository universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 188 kB, installed size 244 kB09:33
sonicHealot: thx09:34
Healotsonic: a good HOWTO >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO.html09:34
sonicHealot: Thant's great, cheers09:34
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MilhousePunkRockhey exceswater09:48
exceswaterhi MilhousePunkRock09:49
exceswater:d09:49
exceswaterhowdy09:49
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MilhousePunkRockGot Wolf ET to work by now?09:49
exceswateryup09:49
exceswaterbut i have a problem09:49
exceswateri even installed the mod09:49
exceswaterit works09:49
exceswaterthe problem is that the graphic is kinda weird09:50
exceswaterwhy09:50
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Zairewell this is it time to test the twinview config lol09:51
MilhousePunkRockHmmm, I don't have any problems,,,09:51
Zairenope09:52
Zairenothing lol09:52
Zairedamn I hate my nvidia lol09:52
exceswaterit seems like is a problem with graphics09:53
exceswaterit's kinda ugly09:53
Zairelike windows ugly lol09:53
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|lostbyte|exceswater, dont blame nvidia.09:54
|lostbyte|eXCeSS, the game works perfectly on my fx 520009:54
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|lostbyte|exceswater, ^^09:54
Zaireyo lost you have twinview?09:54
|lostbyte|Zaire, done it once on mandriva, but was'nt so clear..09:55
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|lostbyte|Now my pc is far away from my pc... :(09:55
|lostbyte|Zaire, try a lower resolution..09:57
Zairethis is my xorg http://pastebin.ca/7856909:57
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exceswater:d09:59
exceswater:d09:59
exceswaterit's not about nvidia i think09:59
exceswater:D09:59
exceswateri dunno09:59
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exceswateri think it's about drivers09:59
Zairedunno I thought the same about my nvidia causing kubuntu to crash then lostbyte suggested I remove ram chips to see if it was one of them and it was lol10:00
exceswater:D10:00
Zairewas running a PC 2700 with a 3200 and they clashed I guess lol10:00
|lostbyte|Zaire, ah ! its you.. Glad it worked.. :P10:00
Zaireyeps lol10:01
Zairemy PC 2700 256 wouldn't even boot kubuntu lol10:01
Zaireglad it was that one and not my PC 3200 512 chip lol10:02
|lostbyte|:)10:02
|lostbyte|Zaire, why do you have 2 device sections in your x.org ?10:02
ZaireI would have beat my head against my keyboard before thinking of the ram chip lol10:02
exceswateryou guys know about that source code stolen from valve :D ?10:02
Zairenot sure its according to the help thing for setting it up lol10:03
Zairehttp://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html10:03
LynoureZaire: I'm sorry I'm no help to you today but your persistense is admiring and inspiring on this miserable day.10:04
|lostbyte|Zaire, dude ! you got to read properly.. it says..10:04
|lostbyte|"We then have to change it to add all the Options for TwinView to look like this:"10:04
Zairelol I missed something as usual10:04
Zaireand yes Im very determined to not use Winblows lol10:05
|lostbyte|:)10:05
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Zaireso what I do wrong other then prob the whole thing lol10:06
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exceswateri hate windows10:06
exceswatermoney for nothing :D10:06
Zairedown with microsoft power to the people lol10:07
exceswateryup10:07
exceswaterfreedom10:07
exceswaterpeace man10:07
exceswaterand power to the people lol10:07
exceswaterdo not feed the beast10:08
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Healothell no10:09
HealotI make money with Microsoft products :)10:09
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Healotand start this linux support business with that money10:10
ZaireI kinda thought it was funny I was telling a friend of a friend I couldn't use windows anymore and he went off on me about whats with all the people that hate MS and theres nothing wrong with MS you know the regular speel and he was trying to quote me on linux drawbacks and I pissed him off by quoting all the plus sides lo typical windows user lol10:10
|lostbyte|Healot, cool !10:10
Zairehe hasn't even run linux before lol10:10
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Healothey I gotta make money somehow..10:11
exceswaterhealot10:11
exceswaterhow u make money ?10:11
HealotI run Linux on customers' PC/servers, but not mine10:11
exceswateri need some ideas10:11
exceswater:d10:11
exceswateri am in romania10:11
exceswaterand we are coming in UE next year10:11
HealotI already have money :)10:11
=== Zaire Canada lol
exceswaterand i think smart ideas could make big money10:12
exceswaterhehe10:12
exceswaterhow10:12
=== Zaire one of few smart Canadians lol
=== MilhousePunkRock 's Win XP on this very Laptop was suddenly detected to be an illegal copy
MilhousePunkRockSo I gave Kubuntu a shot...10:12
Healotconsultancy make easy money... people pay for good support...10:12
=== Zaire lol
Healotthey do10:12
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, did you read the news..10:12
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, they call it the nagufilator.10:13
exceswaterhehe10:13
=== Zaire thinks that would be funny if it said that and it was legit lol
exceswatersupport for what ?10:13
exceswaterwindows ?10:13
exceswaterdo you need employes ?10:13
Lynoureexceswater: Pretty much whatever you have skills for, if the skills are good.10:14
=== Zaire would ROFL
Healotexceswater: server/application/network systems...10:14
|lostbyte|If it was'nt for windows, i would'nt be able to download linux :P10:14
MilhousePunkRockThat stupid WGA tool? I bought this Lappy used including a Win License which I obviously do not have10:14
Healotexceswater: i live like 1000 miles from your place10:14
exceswaterno problemo10:14
exceswater:d10:14
HealotMilhousePunkRock: you installed that? heh10:14
wordthe application icon for thunderbird is the X thing...how can i change that?10:14
=== Zaire says you could always use evil mac to download linux lol
wordnot the uh thing .desktop the thing in the top left corner of the app10:15
MilhousePunkRockIt came with the automated updates... If I had known that my Win wasn't exactly legal, I would have denied it10:15
=== Zaire is evil lol
Healotyou never prompted to install? you should the the WGA in the install list, and deselect it from install10:15
=== Zaire is thinking of taking linux course in post secondary after summer lol
=== MilhousePunkRock is lucky that he is freaking lazy... I could have gotten a Win XP student license for 5 at my university
MilhousePunkRockBut I was too lazy to go there...10:16
=== |lostbyte| steps on the controvertial side..
|lostbyte|WGA is to check for a legal copy.. and thats not a bad thing..10:17
Healotfunny... laziness pays10:17
Healot|lostbyte|: yup10:17
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exceswaterhey guys10:17
MilhousePunkRockPoint is, I did _not_ know that I had a copied Windows... Sure I would not have done automated updates if I knew...10:17
|lostbyte|the only mistake they made is by not making it public about its workings..10:17
exceswateri have a problem when i install some games10:17
Healotbut there are too many pirated copies of Microsoft products out there10:17
exceswatermake command doesn't make nothing :D10:17
exceswaterwhy ?10:17
Healoteven in the USA... hohoho10:17
|lostbyte|micronuts. also has some greate tools like ms-office.10:17
Healotmake, in which directory you typed "make"10:18
MilhousePunkRockWGA does not stop them working, it's just very naggy with a pop-up on boot time and a 5 second break10:18
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|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, thats the point, to nag you.10:18
MilhousePunkRockexceswater: You need developer tools to make "make" working10:18
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, Cause piracy is bad. Think some one steals your house, would you like it.10:18
Healotpay, you lazy ........10:18
=== Zaire gonna burn it and not to a disc either lol
=== Zaire pyro
exceswater:D10:19
exceswateryup10:19
exceswaterit sais something about no compiler10:19
exceswater:D10:19
exceswaterhow i get it ?10:19
MilhousePunkRockLike I said above |lostbyte|, I did not know that my Win was a pirated version... I don't like software piracy either...10:19
Zaireapt-get install gcc or g++10:19
MilhousePunkRockThere are Open Source tools for nearly any purpose, so there is no need copying...10:20
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Healotbuild-essential << i like the name10:20
exceswaterhey10:20
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, OK ! so you been a prey to it, so go back there and get what you have paid for..10:20
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exceswaterhow you own a pirated windows and dunno about that10:20
Zaireexceswater: try apt-get install gcc or g++10:20
=== Zaire says good question lol
MilhousePunkRocki got it from ebay, it's been quite a while10:21
MilhousePunkRockand I checked the bill that came with it, doesn't say anything about a windows license there, OF COURSE10:21
=== Zaire says lol maybe legit but reged to diff hardware lol
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, Then i cant blame ebay :P10:21
MilhousePunkRockThere is a sticker with a Key on the bottom of my Laptop, but that wasn't the key they used10:22
MilhousePunkRockin fact, it wasn't even an OEM IBM Windows, since the key on the sticker did not work10:22
=== Zaire it was prob reged by original owner on their hardware which would make it an illegal copy lol
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, one email to Microsoft can close that COmpany.. :P10:22
Healotmy Windows XP uses the volume license from my business :-10:23
Healotno activation, no nagging... one key for all :)10:23
MilhousePunkRockI can't proof it no more though, since the auction is not saved on ebay any more, after more than 2 yrs10:23
|lostbyte|nice..10:23
MilhousePunkRockLazyness does not always pay though. I could have gotten recovery CDs for the Laptop while it was still on warranty (Jan 06) from IBM for free10:24
Zairewell I know one thing the way that XP was setup it made it so you had to reg your hardware and once that was done you couldn't install it on other PC's without it being illegal cause the liscense is only for 1 PC10:24
MilhousePunkRockI never bothered to call them though...10:24
|lostbyte|ok10:24
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|lostbyte|Zaire, But every time we change 4 peaces of hardware, it would have to be reactivated..10:25
|lostbyte|MilhousePunkRock, :)10:26
Zaireexactly and it would negate the liscense so you would have to buy a new copy all it was is a money grab10:26
wordtehgay10:26
MilhousePunkRock4 pieces, |lostbyte|? I had to do that when I upgraded my Video Card on the other PC10:26
MilhousePunkRockAnd again when I expanded the RAM10:27
|lostbyte|I feel sad for all the windows users..10:27
Healotluckily, that doesn't apply to volume licensing10:27
Zairethe deal with XP and the hardware was bull personally cause I mean what if your PC fries then you get a new one you have to buy a new copy with it cause your legit copy becomes illegal10:27
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|lostbyte|i simply hate the right's side of microsoft..10:28
Zaireor you mean the fact that they seem to always get away with stuff and only get a slap on the wrist10:28
MilhousePunkRockI think that's not true, Zaire. If you abandon the old PC, you can take the old Win for the new PC10:28
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HealotMicrosoft have to support 27000++ workers... your money support them and their family...10:29
Zaireas far as I know thats how they set it up cause when you reg I know it reg's your hardware10:29
|lostbyte|Healot, Point !10:29
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MilhousePunkRockI read something last week that Mr Bill Gates himself likes to download videos off the internet with moot copyrights...10:29
Healotdo you want Microsoft jobs to go to India?10:29
ZaireI thought they had already lol10:30
MilhousePunkRockI wouldn't mind Healot10:30
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|lostbyte|no..10:30
Healotwell, Microsoft done that :)10:30
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Zairedoesn't bother me none I don't work for them lol10:30
Healoti mean like all the job they provide in the USA gone to India?10:30
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MilhousePunkRockThe funny thing about M$ is that they always get away with anything...10:31
Zairethe way I look at it is why worry about something out of my control I mean if he is willing to do that despite making billions what does that say about him10:31
exceswaterif is someone from Paris here10:31
MilhousePunkRockBesides that, Vista will force a vast majority of PC owners to upgrade the hardware big time10:31
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Healotif Microsoft doesn't pay tax for the US government, Bush will be eating trash :)10:31
exceswateri heard that there are some jobs there10:31
exceswaterconcerning World of Warcraft10:31
=== Zaire would not want to work in hades lol
exceswateri cannot remember the name of the company who made it10:32
HealotEA?10:32
exceswaternope10:32
ZaireBlizzard entertainment10:32
exceswateryup10:32
Healotwait a sec... blizzard10:32
MilhousePunkRockBlizzard is the maker of WoW AFAIK10:32
exceswaterblizzard10:32
exceswater:D10:32
exceswaternice ideea10:32
MilhousePunkRockdamn ninjaed, Zaire10:32
exceswateri have an ideea with a friend10:32
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exceswaterabout a game in same style10:32
ZaireI have WC 2 and 3 lol10:32
exceswaterbut a lot smarter10:32
exceswaterwhat should i do ?10:33
Zairehow old are you guys anyway lol10:33
=== MilhousePunkRock is 26 already... :-/
exceswaterhey10:33
=== Zaire is 23
exceswaterhow i install sdl library ?10:33
exceswateri installed gcc10:34
exceswaterand g++10:34
Zaireprob same way10:34
Zaireapt-get install lol10:34
Healotthere is a precompiled sdl library10:34
Healot!find libsdl10:34
ubotuFound: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)10:34
Zaireor check adept lol10:34
exceswaterapt-get install what10:34
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=== Dannilion is 20
=== Zaire feels old
MilhousePunkRockCopying a freaking CD ISO takes more than 10 minutes here...10:35
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=== Zaire has niece and nephew lol
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=== Dannilion has a daughter
=== MilhousePunkRock has a nephew too
exceswatertell me about that sdl10:35
MilhousePunkRockWow, you started early Dannilion10:35
=== exceswater wants a son
exceswater:d10:35
exceswateri love kids10:35
exceswater:d10:35
DannilionI like to do things back to front10:35
=== Zaire had to babysit for sister would go insane if had own lol
Danniliondaughter and house first, then college and job10:35
exceswater!sdl10:36
ubotuI know nothing about sdl10:36
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Healotexceswater: try to find libsdl in your favorite isntaller frontend10:36
exceswater!libsdl10:36
ubotuI know nothing about libsdl10:36
Healotand then isntall those *dev packages10:36
exceswaterk10:36
exceswateri try10:36
exceswater10x10:36
Zairesearch for the stufs in adept to might be in there ?10:36
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exceswaterheaot10:37
Healotthat's what i told exceswater10:37
exceswateri did that10:37
exceswaterthere are some things installed10:37
exceswaterand some not10:37
Healotlibsdl*dev packages, if you need to compile SDL-based applications10:38
unix_infidelwow, so i've discovered, multiple cursors in linux is impossible.10:38
exceswateri wanna play some games10:38
exceswatertuxcart10:38
Healotjust  install tuxcart10:38
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exceswateri tried ./configure10:38
exceswaterand it sais something about missing sdl libs10:38
Healotyou are compiling then10:38
exceswateri got this archive from internet10:39
exceswaterand after that10:39
Healotexceswater" yeah >> libsdl*dev then...10:39
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exceswaterunpacker10:39
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Healotthose files, and of course your GCC toolchain10:39
exceswatergcc installed10:39
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exceswaterbut at libsdl*dev10:39
exceswaternothing10:39
Healotexceswater: find the list in your favorite installer frontend10:40
exceswateryes ?10:40
Healotlibsdl*dev >> wildcard, exceswater10:40
exceswateri think i know about *10:40
Healotany name that matches, you shall install that packages10:40
Healotgood10:41
exceswaterso you mean10:41
exceswaterthat i have to install all things there with lib sdl and dev ?10:41
Healotthen start searching for thos libsdl*dev10:41
exceswaterdeveloper ?10:41
exceswaterhehe10:41
exceswater10x10:41
exceswateri try10:41
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HealotI am off... office hour is over for today10:41
exceswaterdone10:42
exceswater10x healot10:42
exceswater:d10:42
exceswaterit's installing right now10:42
exceswateris there any business channel on irc.freenode ?10:43
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=== Zaire doesn't know
MilhousePunkRockDoes someone know how I import something to KTorrent for seeding? I have both the torrent file and the completely downloaded file10:46
=== Zaire doesn't know
=== Zaire is clueless with most linux stuffs lol
exceswateri think that if you downloaded... you should leae ktorrent open10:46
exceswaterand you will be seed10:47
exceswateri am not sure10:47
MilhousePunkRockWell, I opened the torrent10:47
MilhousePunkRockand it started downloading again right away10:47
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exceswater:D10:48
exceswaterno10:48
exceswaternot open the torrent again10:48
exceswaterif you didn't copied the file somewhere else10:49
exceswateri think you just will have to download it again10:49
exceswater:D10:49
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Zairedamn cant get Unreal tourny to even start to install10:52
exceswaterhow it's MilhousePunkRock10:52
exceswater?????10:52
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unix_infidelanyone here having problems using openbox on breezy?10:56
unix_infidelit didnt create any rc or menu files for me.10:56
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=== Zaire is sorry can't help
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Zairewell Im out getting late laters11:08
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unix_infidelis anyone else having problems with breezy and getting openbox to startup correctly...a11:09
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Steven_Mdoes anyone here use midnight commder?11:11
senseiOccasionally11:12
exceswaterit's nice ?11:12
exceswaterit's like total commander for win ?11:13
senseiYeah, kind of.. just.. uglier :)11:13
exceswaterhow i can install it ?11:14
senseiThere's gentoo for GUI11:14
mindspinnorton commander was more "alike"11:14
senseiWhich is the same11:14
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senseiWas? :) *still using nc like once every 6 months* ;)11:15
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mindspinno dos around here anyways11:15
unix_infidelthere's always thunar too.11:16
unix_infidelits a nice browser if you dont mind the default ugly gtk theme.11:16
unix_infidelyou can always change the gtk theme and icon set theme :)11:16
senseiexceswater: You're aware that mc is for the console? There's a gui program with the same general idea called 'gentoo'11:16
unix_infidelwow, openbox has gotta be the biggest biznitch to config from startup.11:16
senseiunix_infidel: What can thunar do that nautilus can't?11:17
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unix_infidelits less functional...more minimalist.11:17
unix_infidelsome can appreciate that.11:17
exceswater:d11:17
exceswaterok11:17
exceswatergentoo11:17
exceswateri have a problem11:17
unix_infidelits just looks nice imho.11:17
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exceswatermake command is not working11:17
exceswaterwhy ?>11:17
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sensei!configure11:18
ubotuI know nothing about configure11:18
sensei!make11:18
jleiboldcan anyone help me getting tvtime to work?11:18
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)11:18
senseiexceswater: gentoo is in apt though11:18
|lostbyte|exceswater, sudo apt-get install build-essentials11:18
Steven_Msensei: do know how to make mc pause for outfit for things like ping?11:19
|lostbyte|exceswater, sudo apt-get install build-essential11:19
exceswatercannot find build essential11:19
|lostbyte|jleibold, xgl ?11:19
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jleiboldlostbyte, xorg11:20
senseiSteven_M: I'm not sure what you mean, so I'm guessing no :)11:20
jleiboldlostbyte tvtime runs but only get 1 frame every 10 to 20 seconds11:20
|lostbyte|exceswater, Thats not possible..11:20
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jleiboldxawtv works great11:21
|lostbyte|exceswater, sudo apt-get update11:21
|lostbyte|then try..11:21
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exceswaterwhat is after all that gentoo11:21
|lostbyte|jleibold, Try lowering some features ..11:22
|lostbyte|jleibold, like full-resolution11:22
|lostbyte|duplix11:22
|lostbyte|and let it to blur..11:22
jleiboldlowered everything possible no changes11:23
|lostbyte|Does you pc slow down ?11:23
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jleiboldyes i see that msp3400 produces heavy cpu load11:24
jleiboldeven the menu within tvtime is slow11:25
jleiboldhave hauppauge wintv with bt848a chipset and nvidia binary drivers11:26
|lostbyte|jleibold, xawtv is another alternative.11:26
jleiboldlostbyte, xawtv works fine - no way to get tvtime to work?11:28
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exceswaterhey pplz11:29
exceswaterplz tell me how can i install something11:29
exceswateri have gcc11:29
exceswaterand g++11:29
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senseiexceswater: Did you read:11:29
sensei!make11:29
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)11:29
exceswateri make: ./configure11:29
|lostbyte|exceswater, what do you want to install ?11:29
exceswaterit's ok11:29
exceswaterbut installer sais ./ configure11:29
exceswaterthen: make11:29
exceswaterand make does nothing11:30
exceswaterit says doesn't exist11:30
exceswatertuxcart11:30
exceswater:D11:30
|lostbyte|jleibold, some where in tv-time is your solution, dont really know..11:30
exceswateri want tuxcart11:30
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senseiexceswater: sudo apt-get install tuxkart11:30
MistaEDexceswater: try planet penguin racer11:30
thomashey guys... what's a neat ftp/fxp client?11:30
|lostbyte|eXCeSS, read the README that came with it.11:30
thomasi used to use flashfxp...11:30
MistaEDit's the same thing only PPR is being developed from tuxracer11:31
exceswater:D11:31
|lostbyte|thomas, konqueror.11:31
exceswaterkart is nicer11:31
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exceswaterhey11:32
exceswaterdifferent question11:32
exceswaterare sport shoes expensive in your countrys ?11:33
senseiexceswater: That goes into #kubuntu-offtopic11:33
blaqhow do i get dvd playback working?11:33
senseiBut, yes ;)11:33
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blaqa search for 'dvd' on the kubuntu wiki doesn't tell me anything11:34
blaqcant find anything about dvd in help11:34
exceswater!dvd11:34
ubotuSee http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages11:34
|lostbyte|blaq, install kmplayer11:34
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exceswatersense where are u from ?11:34
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senseiexceswater: Born in Sweden, living in the UK11:34
exceswater:D11:34
blaqi have been able to play dvds in kaffeine in previous installs11:35
blaqbut i cant remember how i did it11:35
blaqi cant see this being an uncommon problem11:35
|lostbyte|blaq, file > open dvd11:35
Pupeno_Does anybody know of any keyboard, other than Contour that has all the control, alt, shift, etc keys in the thumbs area ?11:36
blaqyeah cheers mate11:36
blaqhaven't fucking tried that11:36
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|lostbyte|Weird !11:36
unix_infidelPupeno_: that's gotta be the ugliest keyboard i've ever seen :P11:40
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Pupeno_unix_infidel: I am not searching for preatiness in a keyboard.11:40
unix_infidelmight as well develop something revolutionary then :P11:40
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Pupeno_unix_infidel: just having those keys next to the thumb would aliviate my stressed "outter" fingers.11:45
unix_infidelPupeno_: then get a thinkpad.11:45
Pupeno_unix_infidel: err... I have two.11:45
DannilionI have a small problem with my sound- it's delayed11:46
unix_infidelheh, and that keyboard isnt good enough for ya?11:46
senseiWhat keyboard? *curious*11:46
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unix_infidelsensei: google images Contour Keyboard11:46
Pupeno_unix_infidel: of course no!11:46
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senseiok11:46
unix_infidelPupeno_: its the finest keyboard i've come across and had no stress whatsoever.11:46
Zaireback lol11:47
Dannilionso am I11:47
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Pupeno_unix_infidel: I have my outter fingres very stressed of using the ctrl and alt key. Besides that, one of the notebook has a spanish keyboard, the other a german keyboard and I use US Dvorak... so, I am less than satisfied with both.11:47
Zairedoes anyone know what  what this means11:47
ZaireWARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!11:47
ZaireXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:47
ZaireXlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".11:47
ZaireCouldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual11:47
ZaireHistory:11:47
ZaireExiting due to error11:47
senseiHm, the bowl seems a bit deep :O11:48
iBroodMy kuubntu installation icon wont work. can someone please help me.11:48
senseiZaire: Does your drivers do gl stuff?11:48
senseiWhat graphics card have you got?11:48
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ZaireFX 530011:48
Zaire5200*11:48
sensei!nvidia11:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto11:48
senseiUsing those?11:49
fekdoes anybody know, where the profiles of konsole are saved?11:49
ZaireI have the actual Nvidia driver installed at the moment11:49
senseifek: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc11:49
senseiand konsole.eventsr11:50
senseic11:50
senseiZaire: M'kay, so add Load "glx" to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file under the Section "Module"11:50
feksensei: thanks11:50
senseinp11:50
Zaireits already in there by default11:51
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senseiZaire: Okay, see if you can find anything about it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:51
unix_infidelwhat database management system is good for the beginner to play around with??11:53
HealotMicrosoft Access?11:54
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unix_infidelb/w postgres mysql or whatever.11:54
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unix_infidelHealot: that barely qualifies as a decent databse tool.11:54
Healotit is a professional tool11:54
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Zairethis is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/7860711:54
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unix_infidelHealot: you must think you are i ##windows :P11:55
pablo_hello11:56
Healotnah... unix_infidel for mmysql >> mysqladmin is sufficient11:56
pablo_just installed kubuntu the other day11:56
Zairesensei: this is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/7860711:56
senseiZaire: For some reason it can't load GLcore, which results in glx not being loaded :O11:56
pablo_and have a drama with samba11:56
senseiGLcore doesn't exist on your system11:56
pablo_have checked wiki & faqs all over the place, but no joy11:56
Zairethats impossible11:57
Healot!find libgl11:57
ubotuFound: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa, libgl1-mesa-dev (and 66 others)11:57
pablo_i'm using kubuntu as a workstation [and loving it] 11:57
pablo_and i have a fedora core 5 dev server11:57
DannilionI refuse to delete Kubunut11:57
Dannilion*Kubuntu11:57
nekromaanhello i compiled a new kernel and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 and i cant mount my second hard drive11:58
senseiZaire: Why's that?11:58
thomasanother question: what editor can you suggest? mostly for xhtml/php/css coding11:58
pablo_when i connect throught konqueror using smb://username@server/share11:58
pablo_it's all cool11:58
pablo_when i try to mount through fstab the following happens11:58
senseithomas: emacs if you don't mind getting your hands dirty for an initial period of time11:59
pablo_the owner and group are displayed as the user id numbers instead of username11:59
pablo_same with groups11:59
pablo_so it's not allowing access11:59
pablo_useing security=user11:59
thomaswell, i already tried emacs... and at the moment i don't have that much time for getting into it...11:59
pablo_any ideas???11:59
senseipablo_: Try security=share ?11:59
pablo_won't that let everyone in?12:00
|lostbyte|pablo_, pastebin pls.12:00
senseithomas: I think kate can do some syntax highlighting12:00
pablo_will try now12:00
pablo_thanks12:00
Zairesensei: my xorg.conf has the glcore added to the modules section12:00
pablo_'k12:00
senseiZaire: If you add the module "Iknowthismoduledoesn'texistonmycomputer", it's impossible that that module doesn't exist? :)12:00
Healot!find php12:01
ubotuFound: libapache2-mod-php5, php-pear, php5, php5-cgi, php5-cli (and 176 others)12:01
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xanax`hello12:02
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Zairedamn Ive changed my xorg so many times now its hard to tell if I have a clean backup lol12:02
Healotxorg.conf~12:02
Healotthat's your backup file12:02
Zairenot on mine it isnt lol12:03
ZaireI have about 20 backups now lol and that isnt one of them lol12:03
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senseiZaire: Have you rebooted since you installed the nvidia drivers?12:05
|lostbyte|Zaire, hi, you paste bin'd one 30 min back... here http://pastebin.ca/7856912:05
Zaireyeps many times lol12:05
senseiAnd you're using the "nvidia" module in xorg? Not "nv" ?12:05
senseiFor "Device" that is12:06
Zairethats a previous one that didn't work12:06
|lostbyte|Zaire, where i told you u had two sections..12:06
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jochuasalut12:07
|lostbyte|Zaire, remove the first device section completely..12:07
franco3salut12:07
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Zairenot sure thats a good idea lol12:08
Dannilioneh oh12:08
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|lostbyte|Zaire, as you have two of them..12:08
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franco3bye all12:09
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|lostbyte|franco3, bye !12:09
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NekoEdI had a question if anyone could help me.12:10
|lostbyte|!ask12:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)12:10
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NekoEdHaha. Sorry im sure to getting flamed for not being a genius.12:10
larson9999since you're on the subject of nvidia drivers, i've had two different computers with this problem with dapper: the hw recognition somehow things i have a different card and uses the intel* driver and won't use the nvidia one even though i've installed it properly. i just rm'd the offending module and the nvidia module gets used.12:10
musiclinuxdoes anyone know how to get K3B to accept MP3s so I can make an audio CD?12:11
|lostbyte|larson9999, disable it in the bios.12:11
Healot!mp312:11
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:11
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NekoEdOk i have kubuntu set up on my server, port 80 and 90 forwarded to it , and dns software running. But still noone can see them.12:11
Healot!info libxine-extracodecs12:11
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB12:11
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musiclinuxI already have Lame installed but k3b can't see it as a plugin12:12
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larson9999|lostbyte|: no, i don't really have two video cards.  the hw detection things i do, though.  this happened on 2 of the 5 or so sysstems i've installed ubuntu on.  there's a thread out there of others having this issue with dapper.12:12
|lostbyte|NekoEd, dns software ?12:12
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|lostbyte|larson9999, You dont have a built it one ?12:13
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larson9999|lostbyte|: nope12:13
NekoEdYa. I have no-ip.coms linux version of there software running.12:13
pablo_pastebin is killing me12:14
|lostbyte|larson9999, how do you know its using intel ?12:14
larson9999|lostbyte|: just mentioning it here in case you see someone who said he's followed the instructions and still can't get nvidia drivers working.  a quick lsmod will rule this out as an issue12:14
Zairepastbin xorg restored12:14
larson9999|lostbyte|: lsmod shows it12:14
|lostbyte|larson9999, do you have the nvidia module loaded ?12:15
NekoEdWhen i type <domain>:90 i can see my webpages. but no one else can.12:15
|lostbyte|larson9999, lspci | grep AGP12:15
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larson9999|lostbyte|: yes,  i've been using nvidia drivers since the 90's.  i don't have an issue installing it. it's a bug in dapper.12:16
|lostbyte|NekoEd, so your dynamic dns update client is working..12:16
larson9999|lostbyte|: i solved my issue a long time ago.  just figured i'd pass the info12:17
NekoEdYes it is. |lostbyte12:17
LynoureNekoEd: does dns lookup give the right ip for the domain? (or have you check that already?)12:17
|lostbyte|larson9999, ah ! ok.. so what was the solution... ?12:18
pablo_zaire & lostbyte: tried security = share12:18
NekoEdive nto done a dns look up just a ping12:18
ZaireI get the same error still12:18
LynoureNeko: try both on your machine and further away12:18
pablo_user changes to root on everything - might be because root mounted it12:18
pablo_group still ids12:18
pablo_owner - not user - changed to root - sry12:18
pablo_pastebin is giving me no love12:18
ZaireI took out the first devices section and restarted kdm and nothign same error12:19
|lostbyte|NekoEd, whats your domain name ?12:20
senseiZaire: paste your xorg.conf in pastebin12:20
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larson9999|lostbyte|: i just rm'd the intel module.  then it uses the nvidia module as it should.  i suppose you could rename it or something if you didn't want to rm it.  this was a bit of problem for me since it was my first time with a debian system.  i'd installed nvidia a million times on rh systems.  at first i was like, wtf.  i did find a thread on it.12:20
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sensei|lostbyte|: Solution is to move the intel module to a dir outside of xorgs realm12:20
Zairehttp://pastebin.ca/7861712:21
pablo_not zaire, sensei12:21
pablo_sry sensei12:21
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|lostbyte|larson9999, removing the xserver-xorg-driver-i740 and xserver-xorg-driver-i128 package, would that work ?12:22
|lostbyte|sensei, ^^12:23
Zairehttp://pastebin.ca/7861712:23
larson9999|lostbyte|: don't know but it sounds like it might be a more elegant solution than the one i picked.12:23
sensei|lostbyte|: That'd probably do as well, yes :)12:23
senseiFancy pants solution hehe12:23
larson9999lol12:23
|lostbyte|:P lolz12:24
Zairehttp://pastebin.ca/7861712:24
senseiZaire: What does slocate GLcore say ?12:24
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ken___Please excuse just testing/learning12:25
senseiZaire: Open a console, and type: slocate GLcore12:26
Zairecommand does nothin12:26
RawSewagewhy isnt Skype in the repos12:26
senseiZaire: Sure it does.. It just doesn't show anything12:27
Zairego to skyp site and d/l the .deb12:27
senseiSo, you don't have GLcore12:27
RawSewageok12:27
|lostbyte|RawSewage, add it then..12:27
RawSewageIm not a developer, Champ12:28
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Zairerinse and repeat till your nick changes to clean lol12:28
|lostbyte|RawSewage, neither am i dude ! i meant ---------> eb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:28
|lostbyte|RawSewage, neither am i dude ! i meant ---------> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:29
RawSewageoh12:29
RawSewagewhats the advantage of that12:29
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|lostbyte|RawSewage, direct access from adept.12:29
RawSewageas opposed to downloading the deb from their site12:29
RawSewageok12:30
RawSewagety12:30
|lostbyte|np12:30
Zairewhats wrong with downloading from skype thats what I did lol12:30
RawSewagenothing12:30
RawSewageok, added to repos12:31
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|lostbyte|Zaire, cool !12:31
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RawSewagedeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:32
RawSewageits hanging12:32
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RawSewagedeb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free12:33
bimberi!skype12:33
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto12:33
Zaireso let me get this straight I am running an OS that is basically dependant on the GLcore and yet I have no GLcore :S12:34
|lostbyte|RawSewage, does'nt for me..12:34
|lostbyte|RawSewage, hangs where ?12:34
RawSewageok12:34
RawSewage... trying again12:34
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RawSewagethe  Skype isnt hanging it12:35
RawSewageWaiting for headers 99%12:35
senseiGah, I give up.. Does anyone know if it's possible to be able to click links in konsole and have them opened in any browser?12:35
senseiOr at least konq ?12:35
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RawSewageI think it's a Compiz thing hanging it up12:35
|lostbyte|RawSewage, i am on compiz too..12:35
RawSewagedo you have a broken package12:36
RawSewagein the updates12:36
kbrooksEVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?12:36
|lostbyte|RawSewage, like ?12:36
RawSewageI forget.  some sort of 2D thingee12:36
|lostbyte|RawSewage, everything works fine here, ( touch wood )12:36
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RawSewageIm talking about the Updater12:37
|lostbyte|RawSewage, i use apt-get update12:37
kbrooksEVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?12:37
larson9999sensei: from konsole?  i don't think so.12:37
senseilarson9999: Shite :/12:37
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RawSewage|lostbyte|, how is your video playback in Compiz.  mine is jerky in fullscreen12:38
Zairedamn....well I gtg its 4:30 in the morning lol bed times for me lol12:38
senseiNite12:38
Zairelaters12:38
|lostbyte|RawSewage, mine starts with a 2 second jerk and goes smooth..12:38
MetaMorfoziShow can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?12:38
|lostbyte|RawSewage, i use mplayer.12:38
RawSewagefullscreen12:38
|lostbyte|RawSewage, 5200 fx, 512 mb HERE, YOU ?12:39
|lostbyte|512 is my ram by the way..12:39
kbrooksMetaMorfoziS: that's impossible12:39
kbrooksMetaMorfoziS: errr....12:39
RawSewage420012:39
RawSewage512 I believe12:39
kbrooksMetaMorfoziS: sorry, misread12:39
senseikbrooks: chroot ?12:39
MetaMorfoziShow?12:40
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senseiMetaMorfoziS: It's a bit of work and it'll waste some space, but chroot can do that12:40
kbrookssensei: ?12:40
|lostbyte|MetaMorfoziS, sudo chmod a-xrw /home/<name> -R12:40
RawSewagewhats hanging is  au.archive.ubuntu.com12:40
sensei|lostbyte|: That way he'll be able to read /usr /var /opt and so on anyways12:41
|lostbyte|RawSewage, oh :) mirrior is down i guess.12:41
MetaMorfoziSand where is the username coming?12:41
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RawSewageyeah12:41
MetaMorfoziSoh12:41
|lostbyte|sensei, you ref to MetaMorfoziS  ?12:41
MetaMorfoziShm!:)12:41
sensei|lostbyte|: Yeah12:41
sensei|lostbyte|: I think we understood his request differently :)12:42
|lostbyte|sensei, he does'nt want others to read and write to his home..12:42
MetaMorfoziSno12:42
MetaMorfoziSit isn't work12:42
MetaMorfoziSi'm on /12:42
|lostbyte|:)12:42
MetaMorfoziSfrom that account12:42
senseiI understood it as if he wanted the user to not be able to leave his home dir12:42
MetaMorfoziSyes!12:42
senseiMetaMorfoziS: Then you want chroot12:42
|lostbyte|ahh !12:43
kbrooksI like the move...12:43
MetaMorfoziShow?12:43
MetaMorfoziShow chroot works?12:43
senseiman chroot12:43
MetaMorfoziSyes, but where the username comes?12:43
grizzlyAny editor for terminal with colours like kate ?12:43
MetaMorfoziSchroot newroot12:43
MetaMorfoziSbut where it knows what user's home changing?12:44
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senseiMetaMorfoziS: Seriously, this isn't done in a whip of time.. Take an hour off, google and set it up. I hate to repeat what other's already has said12:44
senseiMetaMorfoziS: A useful search term is 'jail'12:44
MetaMorfoziSi thinked to do that is only one cmd12:44
MetaMorfoziSi can't understadn why it a difficult thing on linux:(12:44
LynoureMetaMorfoziS: Is doing that on windows easy?12:45
senseiMetaMorfoziS: If you do what I said, and do some research instead of sitting here whine about it, you'd soon find that other's has done a lot of the work for you12:45
senseiMetaMorfoziS: When I say research and give you the hint 'jail', the first thing you do is google.. if that won't give you anything straight away... search for jail on freshmeat.net12:46
MetaMorfoziSokayokay, sorrysorry:D12:46
senseihttp://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/  And vioala.. Try that, if you hit any problems, then ask.. Just don't ask people to do everything for you :)12:46
|lostbyte|sensei, but atleast give him some keywords to start with..12:46
sensei|lostbyte|: 06:44:28 < sensei> MetaMorfoziS: A useful search term is 'jail'12:46
senseijail and chroot is well enough12:47
|lostbyte|cool.12:47
kbrooksCan SOMEONE answer:12:47
kbrooksEVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?12:47
grizzlyis language-support-en a critical package ?12:47
Healotgrizzly: default, but not critical12:48
|lostbyte|kbrooks, sorry ! didt use it.12:48
kbrooksA user has complained that it did?!?12:48
Healotyou can just use C/POSIX as locale...12:48
kbrooks<focker> easyubuntu script commented out everything in my kubuntu 6.06 /etc/apt/sources.list12:48
kbrooks^12:48
grizzlyHealot: So it can be removed, right?12:48
Healotgrizzly: yes, but not recommended, I would say12:48
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Healotit's for the English locale... well, at least for most of use, it is useful12:49
grizzlyK, I just wanted to get rid of openoffice12:49
|lostbyte|kbrooks, it commected even the ones you want to use ?12:49
kbrooks|lostbyte|: not me12:49
|lostbyte|k12:49
kbrooks|lostbyte|: I have no idea . he obviously didnt give enough information12:50
|lostbyte|kbrooks, it commenting the older one, then its a good thing.12:50
|lostbyte|if*12:50
kbrooks|lostbyte|: "the older one"?12:50
kbrooks|lostbyte|: he said "everything".12:51
HealotKDE depends on that too...12:51
|lostbyte|kbrooks, the older repos he is chaning..12:51
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|lostbyte|oh12:51
kbrooks|lostbyte|: reread the statement12:51
|lostbyte|ALL :)12:52
kbrooks|lostbyte|: have you used easyubuntu? :P12:52
|lostbyte|kbrooks, no, i specify my repos my self..12:53
larson9999i'm going to have to check out this easyubuntu thing.  sounds so easy even my mom could use it12:53
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|lostbyte|kbrooks, also, i dont like automated scripts..12:54
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kbrooks|lostbyte|: EU isnt fully automated12:54
|lostbyte|kbrooks, it comes with gnome by default ?12:55
kbrooks|lostbyte|: er? easyubuntu isnt a distro12:55
kbrooks|lostbyte|: it never installs anything you dont ask it to12:56
|lostbyte|argh ! i am mixing it up with some thing else.. sorry..12:56
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kbrooks|lostbyte|: hehe12:57
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MetaMorfoziSok, i can'T figure it out01:00
MetaMorfoziSi can't setup fptd01:00
MetaMorfoziSi can't work out to a user can't chdir from hist home01:01
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MetaMorfoziSonly that i have is the windows sharing anyway01:01
jakeHey, anyone know if there's a program in the repositories I can use to decompress .rpm files?01:01
MetaMorfoziSit's abject:(01:01
LionRockcan somebody give any advice. How does programmers develop kubuntu ? Does they compile each time all system files or how does this thing go ?01:02
oshjake: rpm2tar?01:03
jakeI'll take a look at that, thanks01:03
jakeUnfortunately, all of the linux ports I can find seem to assume I'm running RedHat01:03
oshjake: what program are you going for?01:04
jakethe LimeWire Linux Release01:04
jakeI don't like Nicotine01:04
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oshjake: ahh. there's something called "alien" too which allows you to install rpms on debian based systems.01:04
jakeAh I heard about that, I'll check that out too01:05
jakethanks01:05
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|lostbyte|osh, alien converts..01:05
cox377Hey All01:05
jakeI love this OS :)01:05
jakeI've went from using nothing but Windows to Kubuntu and it's actually not too hard to get the hang of, especially since I have this channel to ask for help on01:06
jakeI love the Adept Package Manager mostly, though01:06
osh|lostbyte|: sure, but what I said still holds true. it will allow you to install rpms.01:06
|lostbyte|:)01:07
Lynourejake: that's nice to hear :)01:07
jakeI decided to install Linux after windows killed itself for like the 5th time on my laptop.01:07
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LynoureOne ice thing about open source is that one can take secondary pride about a project even if one has only submitted bug reports and done nothing else :) Or at least I can.01:08
cox377i must admit i only use the windows box for gaming now01:08
jakeYeah, it bugs me there aren't many games released for Linux01:09
jakeWhich is why I'll still be using my brother's Windows Box for games01:09
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cox377the only thing that i dont like about this kubuntu install is that i cant get a higher rez about 1024 when the card supports 1280.. but it's not a major issue01:10
kbrookscox377: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:11
cox377tried it before01:11
cox377didn't get anywhere unfortunatly01:11
kbrookscox377: er, dont select NO screen resolutions01:11
larson9999jake: there are plenty games in linux these days for my limited game time01:12
cox377what do u mean?>01:12
kbrookscox377: check off the highest resolutions tht your card supports01:12
|lostbyte|larson9999, which is your fav ?01:12
kbrookscox377: don't check off _nothing_.01:12
jakeI know there are plenty of ports; my friend is always playing Diablo 2 on his Linux box01:13
cox377kbrooks: you mean when it asks which rez ask for the the highest01:13
kbrookscox377: yea01:13
kbrooksdid u do that before01:13
jakebut other than old SNES games, I like to stick with modern games. Like Final Fantasy XI and it's usually a while after the windows release that you get one for Linux01:14
larson9999|lostbyte|: i don't have a favorite game.  right now i've been going though some old adventure games.01:14
kbrooksjake: which is bad01:14
|lostbyte|k01:14
kbrooksjake: there is still a market in linux for gaming01:14
larson9999jake: that's starting to change.  vote with your wallet.01:15
jakekbrooks: I just wish it was a bigger market01:15
jakeHeh, my wallet is empty01:15
jakeI'm a poor student, why do you think I love linux so much: ;)01:15
cox377kbrooks: i ran it, and it still only allows these rez's01:16
cox377SubSection "Display"01:16
cox377Depth2401:16
cox377Modes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"01:16
cox377EndSubSection01:16
cox377EndSection01:16
LynoureI would want to make an adventure game for linux, but lack in graphics skills01:16
kbrookscox377: dang :(01:16
larson9999jake: well, when it gets some money spend it on a game that puts out a linux version.  and buy it from a vendor that will actually get counted as a linux sell.01:16
jakeI used to be semi decent at coding, in Basic at least. These days all I can handle is MUSH Softcode01:16
larson9999jake: if you're broke try some of the oss linux games.  there are some that are coming along nicely01:17
kbrookslarson9999: ppracer is a good one, but ....01:17
kbrookslarson9999: 3D accel is required01:17
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jakeI have been browsing through the stuff in the repetoirs. (pardon my spelling) but I'm mostly satisfied with my MUSHes and MUCKs at the minute01:18
jakeFirst two programs I installed when I had finished installing Kubuntu; TinyFugue and FireFox01:18
larson9999kbrooks: i have fun with ppracer but there are plenty more.  some nice games in most genres01:18
jakeSince I discovered FireFox, I can't stand to use any other browser01:19
kbrookssoooooooooooooo01:19
jakeIn part because it's British Made :)01:19
jakeIt's nice to see something decent come out of my home country01:19
kbrooksjake: FF is from the USA01:19
kbrooksprove that it is from UK01:20
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jakeReally? Then I was lied to01:20
cox377lol01:20
thomasi have a question about compiling sth...01:20
jakeMy friend sent me the link, told me it was fast and stable and british XD01:20
kbrooksjake: I THINK it originated in the USA01:20
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jakeWell, I dunno for sure, but my friend told me it was british. Then again, he said Nokia was Japanese01:20
kbrooksjake: do you remember phoenix?01:21
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jakeNope01:21
jakebrb01:21
kbrooksjake: firefox used to be named that, iirc01:21
thomasit says: Preparing kernel build system in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15... ./build.sh line 90: make: command not found01:21
thomasand on line 90 it says: make -C $KERNEL_SRC modules_prepare >/dev/null || exit 101:21
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kbrooksjake: I know that netscape created netscape, from which mozilla was derived from01:22
kbrooksjake: i know that they are based in the USA01:22
kbrooksjake: like AOL is01:22
thomasanyone knows why it doesn't work?01:23
kbrooksjake: mozilla foundation/corporation aree based in the USA01:23
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larson9999netscape came from mosaic01:24
larson9999where was mosaic based?01:24
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larson9999oh wait, i think it didn't.  i think mozilla was the early code name for netscape meaning mosaic killer so it probably was a competitor01:26
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snikkeri've got a problem (fonts too too small) with some 32-bit app under amd64. how fix this?01:27
grizzlyis there a webcam app to record vids?01:30
larson9999just read a little history of 'mozilla'.  gets a bit confusing.  netscape is codenamed mozilla which is codenamed seamonkey.01:30
grizzlycamorama only takes pics.01:30
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cox377I've found this small tutorial on forcing rezolutions01:31
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cox377"/boot/grub/menu.lst"01:32
cox377"kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-1-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro"01:32
cox377add this to the end of the line "vga=1280x1024"01:32
cox377to get this01:32
cox377"kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-1-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=1280x1024"01:32
cox377but when i look for that line, i see this01:32
grizzlyAnybody? webcam app to record videos??01:33
cox377"kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash"01:33
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cox377does anyone know what i'm on about01:34
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larson9999grizzly: you just want to record stuff your webcam sees?  anything that reads bttv stuff works for me01:35
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coachJHello All:: I have stupid question but here goes. How can I get Konqueror to open in Maxium view, it alowas opens as a small window01:36
grizzlylarson9999:  bttv?01:36
hussamkkathman: hey!01:37
larson9999grizzly: heck, i don't have a camera on this computer. it's been a while but i thought many of the video apps can read your camera and record it.01:38
larson9999my son does that all the time... he's sleeping now or i'd ask.01:38
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grizzlylarson9999: Thanks! I'll search.01:39
coachJ I have stupid question but here goes. How can I get Konqueror to open in Maxium view, it alowas opens as a small window01:39
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Emessmaximise it then close it, and if its the only instance open it should save liek that, otehrwise eit its config01:40
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Emessactually i had the same problem when i first installed lol01:40
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larson9999grizzly: didn't i see a bot post about webcams here earlier?01:40
coachJi have done the max close open thing doesn work01:40
larson9999!webcam01:40
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras01:40
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larson9999grizzly: maybe one of those sites has some insight01:41
coachJhow do i edit its config01:41
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Emessok, see the little konqueror logo int eh top left hand corner?01:43
coachJy01:43
Emessclickt hat and go to window settings/preferences01:43
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Emess*configure window preferences01:43
Emessnot used to dapper quite yet lol01:43
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Emessanyway in there, theres an option for window specific prefs01:44
Emessmake a new one, and in workarounds find maximise and set it to force01:44
coachJlet me look01:44
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Emesswierd...adept keeps freezing when it tries to install JRE, it gets stuck on 9 or 10% while showing the license agreement01:47
Philip5Emess: have you pressed enter to see the whole license?01:48
HobbseeEmess: yeah, it does that01:48
Philip5and then typed yes01:48
HobbseePhilip5: i'ts broken01:48
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Emessits an adept window, no place to press enter or type yes01:48
omeowKnown bug in adept apparently.01:49
Philip5aha01:49
omeow(hey what else about adept is new)01:49
Philip5then install it with apt-get01:49
RiddellEmess: that's a known bug01:49
Emessyeah, im gonna try do it  manually, hopefully it wont need to redownload01:49
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RiddellEmess: yes, synaptic will work, as will apt-get on the command line, neither will need to re-download01:49
Philip5i installed jdk yesterday with apt-get01:49
Emessapt-get upgrade sun-java-jre5.0.bin?01:50
Emessi hate java period ...01:50
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coachJEmess---got it, it is under settings>config view profile.01:51
Emessyeah01:51
coachJthks01:51
Philip5Emess: apt-get install sun-java5-jre01:51
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sagarawoo01:51
sagarayakuake rules01:51
omeowDefinitely. :)01:51
sagarahaven't had the need to start a konsole01:52
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EmessE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:52
EmessE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:52
cox377make sure no other adept is running01:52
omeowClose adept first.01:52
Philip5Emess: you have to sudo or be root01:52
sagaraare you running synaptic/adept/apt?01:52
Emessadept notifier is running01:53
Philip5Emess: and close apept01:53
Emessand i am in sudo01:53
Philip5adept01:53
larson9999i've been getting the case where adept hangs around even after i close it.  have to kill hte process. don't konw if it's just this system or what01:54
coachJadept dowsn't do that to me01:55
Netcadsay there is a line in the format token1-token2 token3-token4-token5. how to replace the - characters only between token3 token4 and token5?01:55
Emesswierd, i killed the process and it still gives teh same error01:55
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Emessand when i dpkg --configure -a01:57
Emessi get dpkg: status database area is locked by another process01:57
omeowsudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock01:58
omeowAnd then try again.01:58
Emesstis working now, thanks yo~01:59
Emessfor future reference, what does fuser do?01:59
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neopsychehello01:59
neopsycheCan anyone help me configure my mouse?01:59
Emesswhats wrong with it?01:59
omeowEmess: type man:/fuser in konqueror02:00
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omeow(or man fuser in your console)02:00
Emessah ok, thanks for that02:01
neopsychemy xorg.conf02:01
Emesswhat type of mouse do you have? because usually ubuntu figured it out rpetty well02:01
neopsychesettings seem to be incorrect.. its a serial mouse .. i dont know what command lines i need to change, its a serial mouse 1.1A compatable microsoft wheel mouse02:02
coachJemess i just downloaded sun jave 5jre using adept if is freezing because it wants me to ok (under details) how do I click ok?02:02
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Emessgotta do it manually, its an adept bug02:03
Emessbecause it wants to accept a EULA agreement02:03
coachJi see that so apt-get sun blah-blah??02:04
neopsycheanyone any mouse ideas?02:04
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Emesssudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre02:04
coachJthks02:04
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kbrooksHi.02:04
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kbrooksI'm using Kubuntu w/ Ubuntu. I would like ashift+numlock to work. But it doesn't.02:05
kbrooksIt's supposed to enablee mouse keys02:05
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kbrooksat least, thats what gnome calls it02:06
kbrooksSo how do I enablee this?02:06
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kbrooksanyone willing to help?02:07
kbrooksTHERE?02:08
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emonkeysorry no idea02:09
inopekde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?02:09
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kbrooksemonkey: no idea?!?02:12
kbrooks...02:12
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coachJgetting this message from adept You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.02:21
coachJhow do i kill that process?02:21
Philip5kbrooks: look here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NumLock?highlight=%28lock%29%7C%28num%2902:22
coachJk02:22
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EmesscoachJ: i got teh same error, try dpkg --configure -a02:23
coachJwill that kill the process02:23
coachJthe link was for num lock02:23
emonkeycoachJ, the link was for kbrooks not for you ;)02:24
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Emessit wont kill the process but it will open up dpkg for you02:24
Emessudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock02:25
Emess+s02:25
Emessthat should kill adept02:25
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exceswaterhey pplz02:25
exceswaterwhy is nobody on offtopic ?02:25
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coachJtrying02:26
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cox377is anyone having probs with there resolution02:28
cox377because i just worked out how to force it upto 1280 and it feels like a million bucks in comparison02:28
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coachJoops02:29
coachJnow adept wont start02:29
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zblachhi. quick question. embedded webcams. how can I use 'em?02:32
zblacheasycam doesn't like it02:33
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cox377god damn.. 1280 feels good02:36
Healot1600x1200?02:38
HealotI am seeing little things02:38
|lostbyte|I am on 1280..02:39
omeowI'm on 2560x102402:40
|lostbyte|i can see up to 3 windows at once.02:40
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Tommy2k41280 and i have everything maximised02:40
Tommy2k4cept kopete02:40
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Tommy2k4and kaffeine02:40
[GuS] Hi People!02:40
|lostbyte|:)02:40
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[GuS] one question, how could i compile a dev package (excample tcl8.5-dev) and then making it .deb for ubuntu or kubuntu? I allready searched, but i did't found for dev packages02:41
Healot!find tcl02:42
ubotuFound: expect-tcl8.3, libdb4.2-tcl, libdb4.3-tcl, libpgtcl-dev, libpgtcl1.5 (and 81 others)02:42
[GuS] ?02:42
[GuS] someone? i want to package tcl8.5/tk8.5 for kubuntu... but also the dev ones.02:43
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Healottcl8.3-dev >>02:43
[GuS] Healot,  ?02:44
Healottk8.4-dev >>02:44
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Healotthose the lastest in the repos02:44
[GuS] Healot,  you did't read my question do you?....02:44
Healotyes02:44
[GuS] i think no.02:45
Healotread it. but i don't .... . ....02:45
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[GuS] i waqnt to package a .deb for Kubuntu. The package is tcl8.5/tk8.5. i allready did the binaries (.debs) but now i need to build tcl8.5/tk8.5-dev (.debs packages too)02:46
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Healotyou do know how to build a package right?02:46
[GuS] yes02:46
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Healotdo you know how to configure that debian/rules file?02:47
[GuS] for binaries yes... i don know if i must change something for -dev02:47
[GuS] i did't find yet a doc for that02:47
Healotyou know how to list the files for the binaries right?02:48
Healot[GuS] : are you using checkinstall or de*?02:48
[GuS] nop02:48
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[GuS] debhelper02:48
wilyhi guys02:49
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wilyhow can i locate an hotspot?02:49
wilywhat is application ?02:49
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|lostbyte|wily, kwifimanager02:50
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wily|lostbyte|: ok02:50
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alyle02:50
wilydo u know wifi way?02:50
wilytell me...02:50
wilyi locate a wifi hotspot02:51
Healotwo men hao, alyle02:51
|lostbyte|wily, wifi-radar too is good.02:51
Healot!zh02:51
ubotuFor Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk02:51
alyleoh,thanks02:51
|lostbyte|wily, huh ?02:51
[GuS] i really need this.. and i don't know how :(. I am making the deb package for amsn 0.96 but usign tcl8.5/tk8.5.. so in buildep i need tcl8.5-dev/tk8.5-dev02:51
wilyi found a protected wifi spot02:52
wilyis correct this?02:52
Healot[GuS] : I couldn't find that either, man debhelper for deeper digging into that debian/rules file setting02:52
wilylaunch airsnort02:52
wilytake wep key02:52
wilyand after?02:52
[GuS] yep.. i am reading that, with no luck.. thankls anyway :)02:52
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|lostbyte|Argh ! you want to hack ?02:52
wilyno, mmmm yes!02:53
Healotnot a developer myself... how about you compile amsn with the ubuntu tcl/tk instead?02:53
wilyi change my notebook02:53
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wilyand i lost all parameters to access into university's lan02:53
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wilyfor a little i must to hack02:54
wilyi'm out of there02:54
[GuS] Healot, yeah.. but i will use 8.5 vers02:54
[GuS] thats why02:54
Healotjust ask the administrator?02:54
|lostbyte|wily, ^02:54
Healotit doesn;t hurt if you ask02:54
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wilyi've just done it02:55
wilybut i don't remember the way02:55
wilyshit!02:55
wilyi remeber that i launched airsnort02:55
wilyafter whit wep key02:56
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wily|lostbyte|: after i must to use aircrack?02:56
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wilyi don't remember02:56
fekmy konsole background is no more transparent *wine*02:56
fek*cry*02:56
|lostbyte|wily, yes.02:56
fek_why_?! :(02:56
|lostbyte|wily, on the ivs file.02:57
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wily|lostbyte|: i don't undestand02:57
AlelasquezHello02:57
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wilyHealot: administrator is out for two weeks!02:57
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[GuS] well.. i will download tcl8.4-dev source to look into debian conf files :)02:58
wily|lostbyte|: do u have some guide about?02:58
wilyor some url?02:58
|lostbyte|wily, google for aitcrack-ng.. good luck..02:59
|lostbyte|aircrack-ng*02:59
wilythank you03:00
Healotwily: ask your friend who have access?03:00
wilyyes all are using win.....ds03:00
wilyand if i lauch cmd from their laptop03:01
|lostbyte|wily, does'nt matter, all you need is one key..03:01
wily>:(03:01
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wilythat is ivs?03:01
Healotask for the key, wily, and add the key to your wifi settings03:01
wilyok03:01
wilyand i let dhcp or i must assing an ip?03:02
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Healotdepends on the network setting?03:02
Healotfor a university access, mostly DHCP03:02
coachJcan someone tell me how to kill a process running in the background?03:02
wilythank guys i save me the life03:02
Healotask your friends the settings03:02
wilyi must to finish my thesis03:02
Healotkill it coachJ03:02
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Healotliterally "kill <pid>03:03
omeowcoachJ: Open ksysguard03:03
coachJopening03:03
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makkubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso <- is it the Live CD?03:04
coachJthe app is adept or something because it wont let me update says already runnuni03:04
coachJwhat do i look for?03:04
wilymak: is both live and complete operating system03:04
Healotmak: yes.. it is the liveCD03:04
makthanks03:04
omeowcoachJ: yeah, it's named adept in that list of processes.03:04
omeowclick it and then click on kill03:05
coachJsay only thing running is notifer03:05
omeowadept_notifier you mean?03:05
coachJyes03:05
omeowYeah, that's a program that looks for updates, and it can also be the cause of your database lock.03:05
franz_I'm running a kubuntu live cd on a pc with a brand new, unformatted hdd. How can I prepare my hdd for installation?03:06
omeowTry killing it and starting adept again.03:06
larson9999mouse issues?  the upgrade anouncer thing says a new xorg moust thing is ready03:06
coachJok03:06
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coachJnope get same message03:07
omeowWhich message exactly?03:07
coachJYou will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.03:07
omeowAnd what happens when you run sudo apt-get update in a console?03:07
omeow(close adept again when you're going to do that)03:07
coachJthis could be it aptitude03:07
coachJmaybe not03:07
coachJill see03:08
omeowWell, if aptitude is running, then it's most likely aptitude.03:08
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coachJis tha acpid in the sys gueard?03:08
omeowNo, that's a service. Nothing related to aptitude I think.03:09
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franz_I'm running a kubuntu live cd on a pc with a brand new, unformatted hdd. How can I prepare my hdd for installation?03:10
coachJapt-get sems to be working03:10
omeowNo errors?03:10
omeowfranz_: the installer should take care of all that, just select that drive so it gets installed to that.03:10
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omeowThe installer should also detect your windows drive and add that to the boot menu.03:10
coachJit went to all the repos03:10
franz_omeow: ok03:10
omeowYou don't have to do any partitioning or formatting if you don't want to. It can automatically do all that stuff for you.03:11
franz_i know omeow. but i never installed on a new hdd before03:11
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coachJno it failed03:11
omeowOh ok. :)03:11
omeowWhat's the error?03:11
Dannilionit's easiest to install on a new hdd, franz_03:12
coachJdpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.03:12
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omeowDo so.03:12
RaitoWhere is a good place to find window 'color schemes'? Window decorations would also be nice.03:12
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omeowPrefix with sudo though, it'll most likely require root access.03:12
coachJjust as shown03:12
omeowRaito: http://kde-look.org/03:12
Dannilionkde-look.org has a lot of stuff on it03:12
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Raitothanks03:12
DannilionThat's where I got my Tux Kmenu icon from :)03:13
iBroodHello, can someome help me with an installation problem? My installation icon wont respond.03:13
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DannilioniBrood, have you tried selecting it from the menu?03:15
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iBroodniether the one on the menu, nor the desktop icon work03:15
coachJomeow---it worked thks!!!!!03:16
omeowYou're welcome.03:16
RaitoWhere in Konqueror is the setting to change whether you open files with one click or two clicks?03:17
omeowIt's not in there actually.03:17
omeowIt's in System Settings => Mouse03:17
inopekde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?03:17
inopeomeow: do you mean you have an answer?03:18
iBroodDannilion:03:18
inopeRaito: peripherals / mouse03:18
iBroodDannilion:niether the one on the menu, nor the desktop icon work03:18
inopeRaito: weird, huh?03:18
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Dannilionhummm03:19
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Raitook03:20
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[GuS] hey guys03:22
Yenlo03:22
[GuS] when i am execute pbuilder... at the end i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1716103:22
[GuS] for some reason could not make the .deb package :S03:22
[GuS] mmm i think i know why..03:23
Yenis it possible to write to that place?03:23
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Hobbseecrimsun: ping?03:24
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Tommy2k4could bluefish get any laggier at editing a 5kb file!?03:30
gidnaeh03:30
Vliegendehuiskatprobebly03:31
omeowkkkkate!03:31
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Vliegendehuiskatso03:31
VliegendehuiskatI have this wireless card03:32
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Vliegendehuiskatand I know how ndiswrapper works03:32
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: model of the wireless card?03:32
Vliegendehuiskatand it works fine on gnome03:32
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Vliegendehuiskatpmcia03:32
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Vliegendehuiskatpcmcia*03:32
Vliegendehuiskatbcmwl5 driver03:32
Vliegendehuiskatbut03:32
Vliegendehuiskatit fails to work in kde03:32
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thomashow long does it take if it 'may take a long time' to build internal kernel modules03:33
thomasit goes on for about an hour now...03:34
gidnaHi03:34
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: is it interfaced, and what is the alias ( sudo iwconfig)?03:34
gidnaI have a problem with my printer03:35
gidnapixma canon ip160003:35
SonicChaoHello, I run KDE from Ubuntu's "Select Session" and would like to know if I what I do to one, would apply to the other03:35
Vliegendehuiskatabattoir, give me a few03:35
SonicChaoYou know, the session manager.03:35
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: take your time ;)03:35
SonicChaoI did it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"03:36
gidnacan anybody help me?03:36
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omeowNot untill you say what the problem is.03:36
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omeow*until03:36
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Vliegendehuiskatabattoir, its at eth103:37
gidnathe printer runs with turboprint software03:37
Vliegendehuiskatthat should be wlan003:37
gidnabaut print aslo a logo..03:37
Vliegendehuiskatso how am I gonna fix that03:37
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: are you sure that bcm43xx driver included with the kernel is not loaded before ndiswrapper?03:37
kubuntu_wow, kubuntu live cd seems very impressive03:37
gidnaI have to pay 30$ to turboprint If i don't want the logo03:37
Jack1hi03:37
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: i suspect that is the case03:37
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: do a03:37
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: dmesg | grep bcm43xx03:38
Jack1does someone know how to lay an image in the middle of another background image in gimp?thx03:38
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Vliegendehuiskat[17179591.848000]  bcm43xx driver03:38
Vliegendehuiskat[17179593.412000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode2.fw" not available or load failed.03:38
Vliegendehuiskat[17179593.416000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode2.fw" not available or load failed.03:38
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gidnaomeow: can you help me?03:39
jmichaelxVliegendehuiskat: i like your name LOL03:39
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: the dapper kernel includes an open source version of the Broadcom driver...03:39
inopekde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?03:39
Vliegendehuiskatbut its an asus card :p03:39
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: you can either choose to use that, or override that and use ndiswrapper03:39
jmichaelxVliegendehuiskat: what kind of computer do you have?03:39
jmichaelxahh03:39
Vliegendehuiskatthis one is a laptop03:39
Vliegendehuiskatso abattoir03:39
Vliegendehuiskatlets try to use that kernel driver03:40
jmichaelxi just bought a dell laptop yesterday with a broadcom wireless card in it03:40
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: i think it is just branded Asus, bcmwl5 is a broadcom driver ;)03:40
Vliegendehuiskatnah03:40
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: one sec03:40
Vliegendehuiskatthis laptop uses an pcmcia card :p03:40
jmichaelxVliegendehuiskat: it probably still has a broadcom chipset03:40
Vliegendehuiskatprolly03:40
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5,03:41
thomasregarding the building of kernel modules - is there a way to find out how much are already built and how much are still have to be build?03:41
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: 1.2 is what you should be looking at :)03:41
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: i dont know the exact procedure as i chose to continue using ndiswrapper03:42
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BKajHowdy all experts on dvd shrink installation without using wine !03:43
Vliegendehuiskatabattoir,03:43
Vliegendehuiskatlets switch to ndiswrapper03:43
Vliegendehuiskatthis requires things that I don't have03:43
Vliegendehuiskatlike03:43
Vliegendehuiskata new set of firmware03:43
Vliegendehuiskatand they are not on the site either03:44
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: what i do is 'quick and dirty' but it works for me nonetheless...03:44
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: you are supposed to blacklist the bcm43xx module...03:45
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: but that didnt work for me, instead i decided to delete the entire module...03:45
Vliegendehuiskathm03:45
Vliegendehuiskatwell03:45
Vliegendehuiskatthe power led is on now03:46
Vliegendehuiskatby the use of ndis03:46
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Vliegendehuiskatbut the problem i run into now (and earlyer) is that i can't configure the card03:46
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: you mean you cant set essid, encryption key etc.?03:47
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Vliegendehuiskatno03:47
Vliegendehuiskati can set all those things03:47
Vliegendehuiskatbut as soon as i click activate it switches off immediately03:47
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: you use wlassistant?03:48
Vliegendehuiskatnow what?03:48
Vliegendehuiskatwait a few03:48
abattoiri.e Wireless Assistant03:48
Vliegendehuiskatno I didn't03:48
Vliegendehuiskatbut the card seems to work now03:48
Emesswhy would anyonme use that? you want knetwork-manager03:48
VliegendehuiskatEmess,03:49
Vliegendehuiskatit works through that now03:49
Vliegendehuiskatdon't know why?03:49
senseiEmess: Because it works for most people? :)03:49
abattoirEmess: i thought that came default w/ dapper...?03:49
Emessnetwork-manager gets it to auto connect to networks you want as well as browse for ones around you, liek the windows wlan list03:49
BKajtraceroute cmd is not found ...WTF ?03:49
Emessnope, its an apt-get fromt he suse repos03:50
HobbseeEmess: it what???03:50
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abattoirEmess: apt-get from suse repos?03:52
abattoirEmess: you used alien to convert the rpm?03:52
Emessyup03:52
Emessalthough i think it might be available in adept now03:53
abattoiroh, ok03:53
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VHKabattoir,03:54
VHKthanx03:54
VHKit works03:54
VHKeven on reboot03:54
BKajanyone have dvd shrink installed in dapper ?03:54
VHKthat section 1,1 did the trick03:54
abattoirVHK: cool :)03:55
VHKyes Vliegendehuiskat did pingout :P03:55
VHKbut it works03:55
VHKalltough03:55
VHKI need some ice cooling to keep using it :p03:55
Jack1how did u install it ? dvd shrink?03:55
Jack1do u need wine?03:55
VHKhm03:56
VHKJack1,03:56
VHKthat brings me to another question03:56
BKajI'm trying to avoid using wine03:56
VHKI have been looking for somethin like a VM on ubuntu03:56
VHKso not wine :P03:56
Jack1ok03:56
BKajI don't have dvd shrink installed, that's why I'm asking03:57
abattoirVHK: you can use VMWare Player or QEmu03:57
VHKok03:57
VHKwhere to grab it :p03:57
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larson9999BKaj: i have dvdshrink installed03:57
abattoirVHK: qemu should be in the official repos03:57
VHKok03:58
abattoirVHK: there is a qemu accelerator which is not open source but free...03:58
VHKand vmware player?03:58
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abattoirfrom vmware.com ;)03:58
abattoirwait a sec :)03:58
BKajlarson9999: how did you install it ?03:59
abattoirVHK: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/03:59
larson9999BKaj: need wine and then it installs like regular windows program.03:59
BKajwhy wine larson9999 , is there another way ?04:00
abattoirVHK: there is tar version here http://www.vmware.com/download/player/04:00
VHKabattoir,04:00
VHKthanx :P04:00
abattoirVHK: no problem :)04:00
larson9999it used to be a two step process of creating and iso from the dvd and then having dvdsrink shrink it because it wouldn't recognize cd dvd drive.  now it does but i haven't tried shrinking straight from the dvd04:01
VHKow and in the half year that i have been at (K)ubuntu04:01
larson9999BKaj: cause it's a windows program.04:01
BKajif I need wine , it's too late isn't it ? I didn't take the option when I installed dapper04:01
VHKI havn't been able to figure out how i can make .pps things play sounds04:01
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VHKbut I couldn't get that to work on debian either :p04:01
larson9999BKaj: no, it's not too late you can still install wine04:01
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BKajok larson9999 , thru synaptic or adept ?04:02
abattoirVHK: .pps?04:02
Pupeno_Hello.04:02
VHKpowerpoint presentations04:02
VHKin MS office :P04:02
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larson9999BKaj: yep04:02
Pupeno_My Thinkpad T60 has this card: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7149. How do I know which card is it exactly ?04:02
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abattoirVHK: doesnt work with OpenOffice and KOffice ?04:03
VHKnop04:03
BKaji don't see it either one , larson9999 :(04:04
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larson9999BKaj: oh, maybe i got it from the site04:05
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canihojrbuenas04:05
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larson9999BKaj: yep, the site has ubuntu deb for download04:05
VHKbrb04:06
VHKswitching to cat5 again04:06
VHKI don't like hotplugging04:06
BKajok larson9999 , URL ?04:06
VHKand that card is getting really hot today cause its hot in here :P04:06
larson9999http://www.winehq.com/site/download04:06
larson9999for bk04:06
jyogiHello. I need help with sagem 3200 (know as livebox). I use wifi to connect to it, installed apache2 and apropriate packages. I made account on mydns but I don't know how to make other users to see my site04:07
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HawkwindBKaj: Why not just apt-get install wine ?04:10
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monomaniacpatCan anyone tell me how to exclude the kubuntu usplash qwhen installing kubuntu-desktop from gnome04:10
HawkwindBKaj: Seems you don't have all your sources enabled04:10
canihojrjyogi you open the ports? (sorry for my english, im spanish..)04:11
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: i couldnt find anything, but i think konverter can convert .pps to .avi04:12
jyogicanihojr i must say i don't know. where to check it (no problem, i'm polish:) )04:12
Vliegendehuiskatok04:12
abattoirbut it wouldnt be lossless, proprietary formats :-\04:12
Vliegendehuiskati still have to try somuch :P04:12
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Vliegendehuiskati'm on kubuntu fot half a year :P04:13
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Vliegendehuiskatan before that i was using debian as server04:13
Vliegendehuiskatbut as main os windows04:13
Vliegendehuiskatso i'm a n00b04:14
canihojryou dont need create account for your dns.... check whith any friend, got the IP and he can view your web.......04:14
Emessmeh04:14
Emessiv only been using kubuntu for 8 months...04:14
Vliegendehuiskatok04:14
Emessalthough i used slackware for 8 years and mandrake for 2 bwefore that :P04:14
Vliegendehuiskatuhm04:14
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Vliegendehuiskat:P04:15
Vliegendehuiskatlol04:15
Emessbeen using linux since i was 6 years old :D04:15
Vliegendehuiskat2 years ago i didn't knew how to use other os'es04:15
Vliegendehuiskatwell04:15
Vliegendehuiskatredhat04:15
Vliegendehuiskatbut that sucks :P04:15
Emessmy first linux was redhat, and i saw gnome adn went ewww, so i installed mandrake 704:16
Vliegendehuiskatand i have been at computers since i was 304:16
Emessand loved it04:16
Vliegendehuiskatwith dos commands :P04:16
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Vliegendehuiskatbut i'm only 17 :P04:16
Emesslol, my desktop comp for a loong time was OpenBSD04:17
dr_willisi got computers older then that.04:17
thompai need to reinstall windos on the partition here, how can i restore grub afterwards?04:17
Emessso? me too lol04:17
Vliegendehuiskat:)04:17
Vliegendehuiskathehehehe04:17
xwolf-!recover04:17
ubotuI know nothing about recover04:17
xwolf-hm. you do.04:17
larson9999my youngest will be able to say he's had his own computer since he was 1.  :) he's 5 now and boy is he good04:17
xwolf-!grub04:17
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:17
Emessthompa: i did that the otehr day and completely forgot now lol04:17
xwolf-thompa there you go /\04:17
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thompathanks04:17
xwolf-np04:17
thompaim getting weird error in XP, unable to write delay04:18
Emessmy kids are gonna grow up in Open or Desktop BSd and wont be allowed to use linux till theyr 15 :)04:18
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thompain ubuntu i got no nvidia logo, but glx is working which is strange04:18
SonicChaoEmess: That's rediculious04:18
larson9999emess my kids can use anything that's foss.04:18
SkrotFFSAre there kubuntu packages for amarok 1.4.1 yet? Dying to try last.fm radio and don't want to compile it ;)04:18
jyogimy provider doesn't have option for static ip, I have dynamic assigned IP, so I use an option in Livebox, mydns. Problem is that when I use 127.0.0.1 my site seems working but when I use myadrr.homedns.org I get the panel administration of livebox and when my friend tries to connect with this addy he can't04:19
larson9999SkrotFFS: what's last.fm radio?04:19
SonicChaoSkrotFFS: Use XMMS04:19
EmessSonicChao: why is it ridiculous?04:19
SkrotFFSlarson9999: You register at www.last.fm and submit info about what you listen to, and last.fm can generate a webradio for your taste in music :)04:19
SkrotFFSSonicChao: No thanks. :)04:20
HobbseeSkrotFFS: not 1.4.1 quite yet, no04:20
larson9999SkrotFFS: oh, my taste is talk.  is that an option?04:20
SonicChaoSkrotFFS: LOL...seem to like amaroK do we?04:20
SkrotFFSSonicChao: Love is more accurate ;)04:20
SonicChaoSkrotFFS: Mine too04:20
canihojrjyogi use any programs howto no-ip? no-ip.org ?? if you mount one srv of dns, your friend must configurating this srv of dns in her network config.......04:20
Vliegendehuiskatjust use no-ip.org04:21
SonicChaoEmess: would you honestly try to teach your kids FreeBSD?04:21
Vliegendehuiskatthey have good support04:21
SonicChaoEmess: And how to install XWindows Systems?04:21
Emessnot freebsd no, Open04:21
Emessfree isnt secure enough :P04:21
SonicChaoEmess: Or would KDE also be not aloud?04:21
Vliegendehuiskathm04:21
SonicChaoEmess: If they could figure it out, would you let them use KDE?04:21
towercatI have a question about the kubuntu 6.06 livedvd, does having no sound during the livedvd mean I won't have sound if I'd choose to install it?04:21
Vliegendehuiskatwell I would be using openbsd soon i think04:21
Emessi tought my sister to compile, install X, and code tcl when she was 604:21
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Vliegendehuiskatas soon as vista comes out and wpa is a fact04:22
Emessbesuides, DesktopBSD comes with KDE already04:22
SonicChaoEmess: Answer the question. For OpenBSD04:22
Vliegendehuiskatthere will be to much people using linux and especially ubuntu04:22
Emessnot really, id make them use xfce or e1604:22
dr_willisicewm04:23
dr_willis:)04:23
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SonicChaoEmess: Well at least you're letting them use X Windows ;)04:23
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Emessice is hot, i use it on vector04:23
=== SonicChao uses XFCE 50% of the time
SonicChao:D04:23
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Vliegendehuiskatto much projects on school to experiment :p04:24
SkrotFFSKDE fulltime for 4-5 years now =)04:24
Vliegendehuiskatbut school's over :p04:24
jyogiyou don't seem to understand me. Sagem 3200 has built in application to update site. I use already account at www.dyndns.org. The problem is (I think) that my server stands behind this modem(router) and noone can connect to it.04:24
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SonicChaoVliegendehuiskat: I have 3 desktop managers on my Ubuntu...04:24
SonicChaoXFCE, GNOME and KDE...04:24
SonicChaoI pick whatever one I want in "Select Session"04:24
SonicChao:P04:24
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Vliegendehuiskatto big04:24
wilyhi all04:25
larson9999i haven't settled on a desktop.  i do kinda like kde04:25
SkrotFFSGnome too big?04:25
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Vliegendehuiskatmy screen at this laptop is only 1024*78604:25
Vliegendehuiskatyes gnome is to big04:25
SonicChaolarson9999: Me neither, that's why I use them all....:)04:25
SkrotFFSI've always been under the impression that KDE's widgets are a tad larger than others?04:25
canihojrjyogi your router port 80 is open ?? you need redirect this port for your pc.....04:25
Vliegendehuiskaton kde I can put more on my screen :p04:25
Vliegendehuiskatoh yeah04:26
larson9999the only thing i've decided is i HATE gnome04:26
jyogiIt seems to have it open04:26
SonicChaoVliegendehuiskat: Well, what do you think of XFCE?04:26
Vliegendehuiskatdoes anyone know how i can get rid of that amarok splash screen?04:26
SonicChaolarson9999: U too04:26
Vliegendehuiskatwell04:26
Vliegendehuiskati'm gonna try it soon04:26
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: did you have kubuntu-default-settings installed?04:26
Vliegendehuiskathave been to busy last day's04:26
Vliegendehuiskatuhm04:26
Vliegendehuiskatdunno04:26
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: do you have kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?04:27
Vliegendehuiskatyup04:27
Vliegendehuiskatits installed04:27
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: hmmm...okay then.04:27
Hobbseeinterseting04:27
Vliegendehuiskatdefault settings and kubutu desktop :p04:27
larson9999Hawkwind: in this early stage how do you think ubuntu compares to mandriva?04:27
monomaniacpatCan anyone tell me how to exclude the kubuntu usplash qwhen installing kubuntu-desktop from gnome04:28
Vliegendehuiskatuhm04:28
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gnomefreakmonomaniacpat: you can chage it after you install kubuntu-desktop04:28
Vliegendehuiskatmark the kubuntu-desktop thing04:28
Vliegendehuiskatand then unmark the splash04:28
monomaniacpatyers04:28
monomaniacpatwhat is the splash called?04:29
Vliegendehuiskatdunno04:29
Vliegendehuiskati'm not annoyed with it :p04:29
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gnomefreakusplash artwork i thought but dont remember04:29
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: type "kdesu write /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc" and change Show Splashscreen=true to Show Splashscreen=false04:29
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monomaniacpatHobbsee: I don't want to get rid of the amarok splash, if that's what you're thinking04:30
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gnomefreakmonomaniacpat: usplash04:30
wilyjoin in chanell #kubuntu.it04:31
Hobbseemonomaniacpat: er, i addressed that to Vliegendehuiskat about their earlier annoyance with the amarok splash04:31
wilyper tutti gli italiani venite in #kubuntu.it04:31
VliegendehuiskatShow Splashscreen=false04:31
Vliegendehuiskatits alredy that04:31
Vliegendehuiskat:S04:31
abattoirHobbsee: does kubuntu-default-settings override the option in amarokrc?04:31
Vliegendehuiskatand still the amarok 1.4 splash shows up04:32
Hobbseeabattoir: ah, in which amarokrc?04:32
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: yeah, but then you can disable it from tools, options04:32
Vliegendehuiskatyes I did that04:32
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Vliegendehuiskatbut that doesn't work either04:32
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: what about Settings->Configure Amarok->General-> Show splash screen?04:32
Vliegendehuiskatthats unchecked04:33
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: okay, so it didnt overwrite.  do the same for "kate /home/USER/.kde/share/config/amarokrc"04:33
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Hawkwindlarson9999: Terrific so far.  I don't foresee myself going back to Mandriva as my main OS04:34
Vliegendehuiskatuhm04:35
Vliegendehuiskatthere the option is missing :S04:35
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: under [General Options]  Show Splashscreen=false04:36
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Vliegendehuiskatits not there04:36
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Vliegendehuiskatadded04:36
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: close amarok completely, edit the file, save it, open amarok04:37
Vliegendehuiskathmhm04:37
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Vliegendehuiskatdid that04:37
os2macis there a way through the GUI to modfy /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc0.d04:37
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Vliegendehuiskatfixed04:38
ajuswhere can i get multiverse sourcelist ?04:38
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Vliegendehuiskatnot fixed :S04:38
ajusi can't play mp3 :(04:39
sensei!mp304:39
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Vliegendehuiskathm04:39
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: is the option still there in the amarokrc file? or has it gone?04:40
Vliegendehuiskatthat amarok config change works for one time only :S04:40
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Vliegendehuiskatnope04:40
Vliegendehuiskatit has gone again04:40
Vliegendehuiskateverytime04:40
Vliegendehuiskatit works once04:40
Vliegendehuiskatafter that it disappears04:40
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ajussensei: i don't have multiverse in my sources.list where can i get?04:40
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: amarok probably overwrites the file when it shuts down04:41
Vliegendehuiskatyup it does04:41
Vliegendehuiskatso.....04:41
Vliegendehuiskattis seems to be a buggie?04:41
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: try enabling it, editing the file, disabling it and editing the file04:41
abattoirif you understand what i mean :P04:41
ajus!sources.list04:42
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource04:42
Vliegendehuiskathmhm04:42
Vliegendehuiskati see it04:42
Vliegendehuiskatthe option appears04:42
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os2macanyone?04:42
Vliegendehuiskatbut04:42
Vliegendehuiskatthat also works once :S04:42
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abattoirVliegendehuiskat: but is the checkbox still not ticked(in the settings)?04:43
Vliegendehuiskathmhm04:43
Vliegendehuiskatand now it takes ages to load amarok04:44
Vliegendehuiskatit crashes04:44
Vliegendehuiskatand the splash is back again04:44
Vliegendehuiskatand i'm like04:44
Vliegendehuiskatwtf?04:44
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: did you by mistake add something else to the amarokrc file?04:45
Vliegendehuiskatno04:45
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: my suggestion would be to close amarok, delete amarokrc and the open amarok... but you would lose *ALL* your settings...04:46
abattoirif that04:46
VliegendehuiskatI even deleted it a few mins ago to get a new file04:46
Vliegendehuiskatbut04:46
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: oh, then i guess it *is* a bug :P04:46
Vliegendehuiskatit is04:46
Vliegendehuiskatbut the general file04:46
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: using the one that came default w/ dapper?04:46
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Vliegendehuiskatyup04:47
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Vliegendehuiskat/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc04:47
Vliegendehuiskatin that file I deleted the option that says false04:47
Vliegendehuiskatand now the bug is gone04:47
abattoirVliegendehuiskat: i somehow have a feeling that this is due to 'kubuntu-default-settings' messing something up :-\04:47
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abattoiraah, ok04:48
Vliegendehuiskatso am I04:48
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Vliegendehuiskatbut now we have the answer04:48
Hobbseegive me a sec, before more bug talk about this.04:48
Vliegendehuiskatsudo kate /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc04:48
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Vliegendehuiskatand remove the line "Show Splashscreen=false"04:49
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: bleh.  and that fully fixes it?04:49
Vliegendehuiskatyup04:49
=== Hobbsee slaps self.
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: which version of kubuntu-default-settings are you using?  the latest dapper?04:49
Hobbseeapt-cache show kubuntu-default-settings04:49
VliegendehuiskatPackage: kubuntu-default-settings04:50
VliegendehuiskatPriority: optional04:50
VliegendehuiskatSection: kde04:50
VliegendehuiskatInstalled-Size: 308004:50
VliegendehuiskatMaintainer: Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>04:50
VliegendehuiskatArchitecture: all04:50
VliegendehuiskatVersion: 1:6.06-2204:50
VliegendehuiskatDepends: kde-style-lipstik, kdm, ksplash-engine-moodin, kwin-style-crystal04:50
VliegendehuiskatFilename: pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.06-22_all.deb04:50
VliegendehuiskatSize: 201776604:50
VliegendehuiskatMD5sum: e867f68758afa9b8f7b5633e5c5c77fd04:50
VliegendehuiskatDescription: Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop04:50
Vliegendehuiskat This package contains the default settings used by Kubuntu.  It also04:50
Vliegendehuiskat includes artwork and Kubuntu branding.04:50
VliegendehuiskatBugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com04:50
VliegendehuiskatOrigin: Ubuntu04:50
VliegendehuiskatTask: kubuntu-desktop04:50
VliegendehuiskatPackage: kubuntu-default-settings04:50
Hobbseeargh!!!!04:50
VliegendehuiskatPriority: optional04:50
VliegendehuiskatSection: kde04:50
Kamping_KaiserVliegendehuiskat, dont flood04:50
VliegendehuiskatInstalled-Size: 306804:50
HobbseeDONT PASTE IN HERE PLEASE1!!!!!04:50
abattoir!paste04:50
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:50
Hobbseei asked for the version, not the entire damned pastebin.04:51
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Vliegendehuiskatsorry04:51
Vliegendehuiskatforgot to add that version number parameter04:51
Hobbsee[00:50]  <Vliegendehuiskat> Version: 1:6.06-22 was all i needed04:51
HobbseeRiddell: why'd you forget to stick my patch in?04:51
PupenoHow can I make Kubuntu generate an xorg.conf file like the one it generated when I installed it for the first time ?04:51
Hobbsee!xcfg04:52
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto04:52
HobbseePupeno: ^04:52
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: heh04:52
=== Hobbsee might just go test that and fix that.
Hobbseehmmm.04:52
Emessconfgix?04:52
Vliegendehuiskatok Hobbsee04:52
xwolf-!xgl04:52
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:52
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peokliswhats the best text editor or word processor? I want it to have, aspell spell checker, rectangular text sellection, autocorrect, autocomplete, regex - apart from openoffice, ms word and abi04:53
Vliegendehuiskatif that option is in the overall config file... it doesn't work04:53
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Vliegendehuiskatshould I add it to the launchpad?04:53
VliegendehuiskatHobbsee, or just leave it :p04:54
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: ah, there's a bug already for it, which i think i've marked it as fix commited, come to think of it04:55
Vliegendehuiskatwell04:56
Vliegendehuiskatno update yet :p04:56
Vliegendehuiskatcause I keep my system updated :P04:56
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: because i havent written it yet :P04:56
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Hobbseeand it'll go into edgy, i expect04:56
Vliegendehuiskatok :)04:56
Vliegendehuiskatthe next ubuntu version :p04:57
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: yeah04:57
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=== Hobbsee might just build it for dapper too, come to think of it
Hobbseehmmm.04:58
Vliegendehuiskatits easy to fix :P04:58
Vliegendehuiskatso why not?04:58
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: because dapper-updates is very hard to get thigns thru04:59
Vliegendehuiskat?04:59
Vliegendehuiskattesting and stuff?04:59
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Hobbseeyeah, it's stable.04:59
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Vliegendehuiskatwell05:00
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Vliegendehuiskati'm only using stable atm :P05:00
Vliegendehuiskatbut I can't see why that bug should effect anything else05:01
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Vliegendehuiskatbut if its in some pakage.... it can do....05:01
Vliegendehuiskatespecially in the deafault settings pakage05:01
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: true.  i'm asking about stickign it in.05:01
=== Hobbsee hacks it.
Vliegendehuiskat:P05:02
Vliegendehuiskat:P05:02
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wilygo to #kubuntu.it05:02
Vliegendehuiskatand its a bit of a silly update if its only for that05:02
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gnomefreakHobbsee: did you see the interrview with riddell on kubuntu.org?05:03
gnomefreakabout kde in edgy05:03
Hobbseegnomefreak: no i didnt - is it in ogg format, or a transcript?05:03
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gnomefreakogg05:04
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gnomefreaki cant open it05:04
Hobbseegnomefreak: ah ok, i want a transcript :P05:04
gnomefreakim wondering if hes trying to get 4.0 in edgy (but everything i see is no)05:04
Hobbseegnomefreak: no, not a chance.05:04
gnomefreakdidnt think so05:05
Hobbseeoh for goodness sake.  the solution was in the bug report, and i missed it.05:05
Vliegendehuiskat4.0 will take a long time :p05:05
Vliegendehuiskatso whats it?05:05
Vliegendehuiskatamarok only writes options to the config files if they are different from the overall config?05:05
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jpatrickgnomefreak: er, yeah05:06
Hobbseegnomefreak: .4, not .305:06
gnomefreakah oik05:06
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: it's "remove the line" - and it may well make it into dapper updates05:06
Vliegendehuiskatok05:07
Vliegendehuiskat:P05:07
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wilygo to #kubuntu.it05:07
Vliegendehuiskatwell that's my first contribution to the (k)ubuntu community :p05:07
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gnomefreakwily: why are you spamming05:08
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: :)  you can add yourself to the bottom of bug 125210 saying that removing the line works, if you like, and assign it to hobbsee@kubuntu.org05:08
gnomefreakHobbsee: your apt dont work?05:08
Hobbseegnomefreak: it's botched in edgy, yeah.05:08
wilyis not a spam, but if consider it so i'm stopping05:08
wilysorry05:08
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gnomefreakHobbsee: apt works fine for me its everything else that isnt working lol05:08
Vliegendehuiskathehehe no i won't05:09
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Vliegendehuiskatbut it doesn't work :p05:09
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: pity.  otherwise i'll have to do it, and i'm busy tryign to fix whatever's been broken now.05:09
Vliegendehuiskatok05:09
Vliegendehuiskatnah05:09
Vliegendehuiskati'll login05:09
Vliegendehuiskatbut i lost that password again :p05:10
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slow-motionhallo05:10
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BKajsynaptic won't DL wine for dapper from the repository site listed at winehq :(05:11
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Pupenois the System Settings of Kubuntu able to configure a dual-head X setup ?05:12
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: heh, smart05:13
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Vliegendehuiskatheh?05:13
VliegendehuiskatI can't find that bug05:13
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HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/4211405:16
=== Hobbsee had to find the bug.
Vliegendehuiskatso did I05:16
Vliegendehuiskatthanx for the url05:17
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Vliegendehuiskatanyway05:22
Vliegendehuiskatthanx Hobbsee and abattoir05:22
Vliegendehuiskati'm out here again05:22
monomaniacpatanyone know what the kubuntu splash is called?05:22
HobbseeVliegendehuiskat: see you, i just uploaded that fix05:22
Hobbseemonomaniacpat: ksplash?05:22
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partyvanguyhay silly question, can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrives under the livedvd, i keep getting some error that they're not in fstab or mtab?05:23
VliegendehuiskatHobbsee, not in my repo's yet (but i'm dutch)05:23
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nixternalPupeno: yes Ubuntu can run dual head video cards, allowing you to use 2 or more monitors05:24
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monomaniacpatHobbsee: yes, thanks. How would I exclude it from kubuntu-desktop when installing?05:24
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Hobbseemonomaniacpat: install kubuntu-desktop, then remove ksplash05:25
monomaniacpatHobbsee: there isn't a way to exclude it then?05:25
Hobbseemonomaniacpat: not easily05:26
HawkwindPupeno: Do you have an Nvidia card and wanting to setup TwinView ?  If so, I can give you my xorg.conf that might help you05:26
Hobbseemonomaniacpat: kubuntu-desktop's only a metapackage, you an remove it05:26
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PupenoHawkwind: no, this is an ati card and the second monitor goes thru the docking station... hard to get working.05:26
HawkwindPupeno: Ohhh, good luck with that05:27
PupenoAs soon as I specify something for the second monitor, the first one (built in on ibm t60) goes to 640x480. Any ideas ? (the second one doesn't even turn on).05:27
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monomaniacpatHobbsee: so be it05:29
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HawkwindPupeno: I don't touch ATI to save my life.  Too damn difficult to mess with since their drivers aren't exactly open source05:29
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PaulioCHey guys05:30
PupenoHawkwind: nvidia drivers aren't open source either. I don't buy ati nor nvidia (this notebook was given for job).05:30
PaulioCquick (hopefully) question here05:30
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Adam_eMhi there05:31
HawkwindPupeno: Nvidia makes them readily avaliable and they can be distributed for free.  They aren't open source but Nvidia does a much better job of making sure theirs work at all times05:31
PaulioCAttempting to install my Netgear WG11 USB wireless card at the moment. When I type lsusb into the terminal, it shows that it is plugged into bay 1, but it doesn't light up or, work at all.05:32
Adam_eMwhy my bootsplash image has reversed colours ?05:32
cox377lol05:32
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Pupenopersonally, they are free or they aren't. I don't like either nvidia nor ati. Some times one works better than the other and then the reverse and the Linux community claims one is more free than the other.05:32
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franz_Installing kubuntu on an empty hdd: I have two questions05:33
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vakaan IntelliMouse is ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2?05:33
Pupenobesides, I believe I am using free drivers (fglrx, aren't they free ?)05:33
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jc-dentonhi all05:34
franz_first: is it normal that the progress bar while formatting the hdd runs to 99% in seconds then stops for minutes ?05:34
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PaulioCDoes anyone have a good guide to using ndiswrapper on kubuntu, or will using the ubuntu one work just the same05:34
jc-dentonsince i switched to kde i have the strange problem that sound works with external speakers05:34
HobbseePaulioC: you'd need ndiswrapper for that, i expect05:34
jc-dentonbut not with the internal ones05:34
HobbseePaulioC: it works the same.  in fact, it is the same05:35
jc-dentoni guess it's a problem with  alsa or so05:35
PaulioCThatks Hobbsee05:35
PaulioC*thanks05:35
jc-dentonalso kdm does not start up automatically05:35
jc-dentonbut i selected it with dpkg-reconfigure kdm05:35
jc-dentoni had ubuntu before and installed kubuntu-dekstop then05:35
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defryskjc-denton, siply removing gdm did the trick for me05:36
defrysksimply even05:36
PaulioCARGH! Sorry, anyone know where i can find ndiswrapper-utils?05:36
Adam_eMcould anyone help me ?05:37
franz_Is it normal that the progress bar while formatting the hdd runs to 99% in seconds then stops for minutes ? This while installing kubuntu ona new hdd05:37
igwebhi @all is this a good channel for a network question ?05:37
nixternalAdam_eM: whats the question?05:37
HobbseePaulioC: on the install cd05:37
PaulioCreally?05:37
PaulioCgreat05:37
jyogiCan someone tell me how to check which ports are blocked and how to unblock certain ports?05:37
PaulioCso i stick the cd in...05:37
PaulioCwhat next?05:37
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PaulioCpackage manager?05:37
nixternalyes PaulioC05:38
jc-dentonapt-get remove gdm05:38
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defryskjc-denton, yup05:38
igwebhave a Laptop here in the 192.168 net with eth0 and eth1 want to connect at eth1 another Lappie and go over eth0 to the net...05:38
nixternalyou could also at a terminal, just do      sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*05:38
igwebanywhere a good howto, I`ve googled a lot an searched in some forums but... nothing found what helped me...05:38
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Adam_eMnixternal: i've installed grub-splashimages package and none of it displays when grub starts... except the blue_neon thing. The other splashes gives blank screen or reversed colours05:39
jc-dentonok but does anybody have an ide what the problem with the sound could be05:39
jc-dentondefrysk: and that looks like a bug for me05:39
nixternaligweb: if you are talking about using it as a firewall, you could search the ubuntu forums or the wiki05:39
defryskjc-denton, nope05:39
jc-dentoncos i had gdm and kdm installed at the same time before05:39
jc-dentonbut not under dapper05:40
igwebI can't get a network connect from eth1 to eth0 with an cross-over cable :(05:40
jc-dentoneth1 is wireless lan here05:40
defryskjc-denton, if you install kdm with gdm aready installed you get asked witch dm to use make the right choice and it should also work fine05:40
jc-dentonprobably that's the problem :D05:40
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Adam_eMnixternal: well... any idea ?05:40
jc-dentondefrysk: yes but it did not05:40
nixternalAdam_eM: those are boot splashes...yes..im getting you the info right now05:41
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defryskjc-denton, you can also do sudo apt-get remove kdm -- purge ; sudo apt-get install kdm05:41
igwebeth1 is a pcmcia card05:41
jyogiCan someone tell me how to check which ports are blocked and how to unblock certain ports?05:41
defryskto get a frsh kdm05:41
defryskjc-denton, if you think its a bug file it  05:42
igwebinet Adresse:192.168.0.80  Bcast:192.168.0.95  Maske:255.255.255.240   //ifconfig  at eth105:42
Adam_eMnixternal: update-grub gives sth like that: found but preserving previous setting: splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz05:42
PaulioCOk, I give up05:43
nixternalhmmm05:43
nixternalinteresting05:43
PaulioCi have the kubuntu cd in the drive05:43
igwebinet Adresse:192.168.0.81  Bcast:192.168.0.95  Maske:255.255.255.240  //on eth0 the other Laptop05:43
PaulioCi have adept ope05:43
franz_while installing kubuntu on a hdd, it start scopying files and then remains stopped at 52% (progress bar) for about 5 mins and the cd reader still runs.  Then it stops and nothing happens.  Please note that CDs md5 sum was checked before burning and CD was verified after burning without finding errors.  Any clue?05:43
PaulioC*open05:43
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jc-dentondefrysk: apt-get install --reinstall should be enough i think05:44
jc-dentonand i tried that05:44
defryskfranz_, burn the cd at a slower speed to prevent probs05:44
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nixternalahhh... Adam_eM, i misread your whole issue..i was thinking usplash for some stooopid reason05:44
defryskjc-denton, purging removes the configfiles also05:44
jc-dentonand i think kde is messing with my audio settings05:44
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jc-dentondefrysk: yes but it does not even start05:44
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jc-dentonso i don't think it's a problem with the config file?05:44
PaulioCOk, i am trying to install ndiswrapper-utils, which is supposedly on the disk i used to install. So, i have opened up adept, and i have searched for ndiswrapper, but i am not finding any results05:45
jc-dentoni think kde messed with my audio settings05:45
franz_defrysk: can't do that! have no working pc at the moment. need to install this kubuntu!05:45
PaulioCanyone know what's wrong?05:45
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jc-dentonthe muet button and the vol up/down button does not work05:45
jc-dentonand also when i unplug the external speakers, then inernal should sound05:45
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jc-dentonbut they are quiet05:45
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jc-dentonbut i don't know where to start to find out what causes these problemes05:46
franz_defrysk: anyway, the CD was burnt at half of max speed and verify was on with k3b05:46
franz_and i got no errors05:46
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PupenoOk, I've managed to get both monitors working. Both at the same resolution 1400x1050, but the second one scrolls when I move the pointer up and down (the real resolution is smaller than the virtual one). Both are LCD, the first one is the notebook built in, running at maximum, the second one is a 20" Dell 2001FP which can run much more. Any ideas what might be the problem here ?05:47
defryskfranz_, then I do not know05:47
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jyogifranz_ maybe there is some hardware conflict. Maybe check install options05:47
igwebhow to set up eth0 and eth1 as diffrent network, or is it a problem to have both in the 192.168.x.x net05:47
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franz_what and where to check jyogi ?05:48
nixternalAdam_eM: i have good stuff for you05:48
nixternalare you ready?05:48
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jyogifranz_ on bootscreen when starting CD, there are some options, like noacpi etc. in my case disabling hotplugging worked05:49
PaulioCOk, i am trying to install ndiswrapper-utils, which is supposedly on the disk i used to install. So, i have opened up adept, and i have searched for ndiswrapper, but i am not finding any results, anybody here know what i am not doing?05:49
franz_ok jyogi , thanks05:49
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nixternalndiswrapper is on universe/multiverse repositories...  !repositories05:50
nixternal!multiverse05:50
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:50
jyogifranz_ hope this works :)05:50
franz_yep05:50
Adam_eMnixternal: what about it then ?05:50
franz_going to try05:50
nixternalAdam_eM: cd /boot/grub05:50
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nixternalAdam_eM: sudo ln -s splashimages/debsplash.xpm.gz splash.xpm.gz05:51
nixternalAdam_eM: sudo update-grub05:51
PaulioCanyone?05:51
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nixternalPaulioC: check the multiverse link i had ubotu post05:52
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nixternalholy jesus05:52
Adam_eMnixternal: can i replace the filename with anything else ?05:52
nixternalno05:52
nixternalyou shouldn't05:52
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Adam_eMi dont think i have debsplash.xpm.gz there05:53
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nixternalreally05:53
Hobbseejust ignore it.05:53
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Adam_eMnixternal: there are only kubuntu related splashes there05:54
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Hobbseeah05:54
jc-dentonwtf05:54
tmdx120Hello room. Im having trouble getting my gtkpod to register my ipod since I upgraded to Dapper. Can anyone help?05:54
jpatrickah great they're all different ips...05:54
nixternalget um guys05:54
PaulioCoh bloody hell!05:54
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hastesaverHas it been happening all day or is this the first time?05:54
Hobbseehastesaver: first time today05:55
PaulioCcan somebody please tell me where i can get ndiswrapper-utils on the nternet?05:55
nixternal!multiverse05:55
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource05:55
hastesaverDid it just turn midnight in the USA? Maybe it's the last time too, then, hopefully05:55
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nixternal^^ PaulioC05:55
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nixternalPaulioC: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*05:55
PaulioCwill that work though?05:56
PaulioCas i dont have an internet connection05:56
Adam_eMnixternal: the debsplash was a part of another splashes package05:56
HobbseePaulioC: yeah, they're on hte cd05:56
PaulioCthats what i'm trying to set up05:56
nixternalarg..no it won't work PaulioC05:56
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nixternalHobbsee: i don't think ndiswrapper is on the cd..i could be wrong though ;)05:56
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Hobbseenixternal: ndiswrapper-utils is05:56
nixternalok05:57
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nixternalthat is all you need then05:57
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nixternalAdam_eM: you installed grub-splashimages right?05:57
hastesaverAll the GTK apps look ugly by default in Kubuntu... shouldn't this be regarded a bug?05:57
hastesaverI mean, the fonts are HUGE...05:57
jpatrickhastesaver: no05:58
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nixternalAdam_eM: if you installed grub-splashimages, then debsplash is in there05:58
jpatrickI'm hungry05:58
Adam_eMnixternal: kubuntu-grub-splashimages05:58
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hastesaverOk, I guess it's subjective, nevermind. I discovered how to make it look the way I want, and that's all that matters :)05:58
tmdx120Does anyone know how I can get either gtkpod or Amarok to recognize my ipod?05:59
PaulioCHobbsee: So how do i install ndiswrapper-utils off the disk?05:59
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HobbseePaulioC: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils05:59
Hobbsee!ndiswrapper05:59
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:59
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nixternalAdam_eM: ok, do you know which splash image you want to use?  if so post it here please05:59
Hobbseethe guide is in that page - including instructions for non-internet-connected computers05:59
PaulioCok06:01
Adam_eMnixternal: what do you mean by "post it here" ? :) Should i tell you the name or send the whole file ? :)06:01
PaulioCin that guide06:01
nixternalyes Adam_eM06:01
PaulioCit has a link to ndiswrapper utils06:01
PaulioCbut i dont know what io'm supposed to be downloading06:01
nixternalAdam_eM: just tell me the name..sorry06:02
nixternalim e.tarded this morning06:02
Adam_eMnixternal: this is KUBUNTU_splashscreen_real_colors_01.xpm.gz06:02
nixternalgood deal06:02
nixternalAdam_eM: cd /boot/grub06:02
nixternalAdam_eM: sudo ln -s splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_real_colors_01.xpm.gz splash.xpm.gz06:03
nixternalAdam_eM: sudo update-grub06:03
nixternalenjoy!!!06:03
hastesaver!usplash06:04
ubotuusplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto06:04
nixternalusplast and grubsplash are different06:04
nixternals/usplast/usplash06:04
hastesaverOh, yes, that's right....06:04
nixternalhehe06:04
Adam_eMnixternal: bad luck06:04
nixternalAdam_eM: ?06:05
Tommy2k4would php give an error on mail() if the mail stuff wasnt set up properly06:05
Adam_eMearching for splash image ... found but preserving previous setting: splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz06:05
Adam_eMsplashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz06:05
Adam_eMoh man06:05
Adam_eMsorry06:05
nixternaloh wow...mine says the same thing06:05
nixternalhmmm06:05
Adam_eMi thought it would be shorter06:06
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Adam_eMnixternal: it might be a bug then. It should work at all06:07
arsohow do u delete history on konque ;) ??06:07
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YenWhy are wireless network cards still a pain in the ass?06:08
nixternalAdam_eM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:09
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nixternalAdam_eM: scroll down to bootsplash and follow along06:09
cox377!webcam06:09
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:09
nixternaleasier then trying to tell you word for word in here with everything going on06:09
nixternali am going to try it also06:09
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nixternalAdam_eM: interesting thing is that it looks the same as what i just told you to do06:10
monomaniacpatI was told that after installing kubuntu-desktop, it would be possible to remove the ksplash. It isn't without removing kubuntu-desktop as well....06:10
dr_williskubuntu-desktop is just a huge meta-package06:10
Adam_eMwell it isn't worth a try then. We both know it doesn't work06:10
dr_willisremoveing part of it will 'break/remove' kubuntu desktop06:11
Yenanyone in here using a broadcom bcm43xx wireless card?06:11
monomaniacpatdr_willis: so I can remove those and still access kde?06:11
nixternalwo0t06:11
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nixternalAdam_eM: don't ln -s it, copy it and rename it06:11
nixternalit works06:12
dr_willisof course.06:12
nixternalbah..no it didn't Adam_eM06:12
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monomaniacpatOK, here goes nothing06:12
dr_willisor just disable all the bootsplash garbage and never see it again. :P06:12
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Adam_eMnixternal: the real_colors... is the only splashimages that i CAN see after reboot but it has some weird colours, kinda reversed06:13
Adam_eMnixternal: but i can only display it by manually editing menu.lst file06:14
nixternalAdam_eM: maybe you could edit it in the menu.lst itself06:14
nixternalexactly06:14
Adam_eMyeah it works but it looks weird06:15
Adam_eMhave you tried ?06:15
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nixternaltrying now06:15
Adam_eMnixternal: try the real_colors_01 and tell me what you will see06:16
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nixternalAdam_eM: rebooting my other machine to test it out06:17
Adam_eMnixternal: ok06:17
nixternalouch06:18
nixternaldidn't look like nothing but a bad mistake06:18
nixternaldefinately didn't work06:18
Adam_eMnixternal: have you saw any pic or just nothing ?06:19
nixternalnothing06:19
nixternalit tried to load something, but it didn't06:19
nixternalit messed up the grub screen big time06:19
Adam_eMnixternal: what file did you try to load ?06:19
nixternalreal_colors_0106:20
Adam_eMah...06:20
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nixternalhmm06:20
YenI have an Acer Aspire 1511LMi with an Broadcom 43xx wireless networking card, ofcourse as predicted, it doesn't work. I'm using the Kubuntu 6.06 64bit live cd06:20
Adam_eMwell i'm better :) I CAN see it when i boot my machine, but it can damage my eyes :D06:21
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Adam_eMit should be a grey screen with a kubuntu logo at the center, although it's blue and green with more than one logo at left and right06:22
bam_anyone do any ripping with k3b?06:23
nixternali didn't even get that..could be that i am on an lcd also06:23
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nixternalbam_: all i use is k3b06:23
bam_hey, how does one rip a dvd with it?06:23
nixternaloh..rip06:23
Yenhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper says I need to install bcm43xx-fwcutter using apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter06:23
nixternalim sorry...im thinkng burn06:23
Yenand it says the package isn't found06:23
Adam_eMnixternal: i'm using a crt monitor atm06:24
bam_ahhh06:24
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cox377!webcam06:24
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras06:24
nixternalbam_: if there isn't anything with Kubuntu and ripping, you can always check http://www.kde-apps.org06:24
nixternaldid everyone buy a webcam today? ;)06:25
cox377i wnated to ask a question about web cames06:25
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cox377cams06:25
nixternalno cox377, you are the 4th or 5th person i have seen wanting web cam info..thats all ;)06:25
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Adam_eMnixternal: but i doubt it coulld be a monitor/display problem in view of standard of grub splashes06:25
cox377Just installed a little app called camorama that was on the help page06:25
Tommy2k4why wont my php/apache server send mail()06:25
Tommy2k4it gives no errors and the code works on another server06:26
cox377now.., i've installed it, how do i go about running that application?06:26
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Adam_eMnixternal: each splash has to meet a specific requirements at all (size, color depth)06:26
gemidjyanyone else with fscked Align to Grid feature of Kde in Kubuntu Dapper? :S06:26
nixternalcox377: you can try pressing   'alt+f12'   and when the run dialog window opens, type in 'camorama' w/o the quotes and press enter06:26
cox377cool06:27
cox377cheers06:27
nixternalAdam_eM: i seen that, you would think however that the splashes would meet those requirements06:27
nixternaldid it work cox377?06:27
nixternallol06:27
cox377alt f12 doesnt do anything06:27
Adam_eMnixternal: but when you switch back to the crystal... something, everything just works! strange06:27
nixternalcox377: i am sure it will eventually show up in the kmenu list also06:27
cox377what else is there other than alt f1206:28
cox377i'm sure i have done something like that before06:28
nixternalpress alt f206:28
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nixternalagg...hahaha cox377 im an e.tard06:28
nixternalf2, not 1206:28
nixternallol06:28
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nixternalAdam_eM: my grub is toasted now06:28
nixternallol06:28
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cox377lol06:29
Cntryboyhow do I fix this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  5 00:18:39 200606:29
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Cntryboythats within terminal06:29
nixternalsudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com06:29
cox377i just installed my cam using easy cam and it all seemed to go smoothly, all installed no errors.. but it's playing stupid buggers now06:29
nixternalsometimes that works, and sometimes that doesn't06:29
Cntryboyfor apt-get update06:29
Adam_eMnixternal: how did you manage to do it (toast your grub)06:30
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nixternalmessing around with these stoopid images..im going to try something else, as i see grub keeps going into my splash images directory06:30
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Cntryboythx nixternal06:30
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Adam_eMnixternal: ah i see... i'm out of ideas though06:31
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nixternalAdam_eM: i know there is a bug now..because i just moved the splashscreen directory to dips..and it still comes up saying /grub/splashimages/KU#$#)$#06:32
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wilfredHhi folks06:33
tmdx120Hello guys. Im having trouble getting my ipod to be recognized by my multimedia player.  Can anyone help06:33
tmdx120?06:33
wilfredHcan anyone tell me why there are both the binaries and the source in my sources.list file? Surely I don't need both?06:34
nixternalAdam_eM: you know what, there is something up with the kubuntu grub images...because i can change the grub-splashimages w/o an issue06:34
nixternaltmdx120: make sure you mount the ipod first06:34
canihojrhow to can i export my account of my Outlook MS for my Kontact????? :( any ideas?06:34
nixternaltmdx120: to mount it, just click the icon on the desktop to open it up06:34
nixternalthat will automount it for you, then you can go ahead and see it in Amarok or other player06:35
tmdx120nixternal: I dont even get a desktop icon. I used to before I upgraded. after the upgrade, no more desktop icons.06:35
nixternalwilfredH: the sources are there if you want to compile, or edit packages...it doesn't hurt being there at all06:35
nixternaloh lord tmdx120, let me guess you did a 'dist-upgrade'06:35
tmdx120yup.06:36
nixternalcanihojr: what version of outlook?06:36
tmdx120nixternal: is the the problem?06:36
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wilfredHnixternal:  which are used by default?06:37
nixternaltmdx120: dist-upgrade doesn't work, i don't care what anyone says...everyone that says it used to work b4, i ask about dist-upgrade and the answer is always yes ;(06:37
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canihojrnixternal 200306:37
nixternalwilfredH: all downloads come from deb...deb-src gets you the actuall packages so if you wanted to apply patches and repackage it you could06:37
wilfredHok. thanks06:38
tmdx120nixternal: Right after the upgrade, thinkgs were a little quirky. HOw do I get my periferals to be recognized automatically?06:38
nixternalright there Kamping_Kaiser ^^06:38
nixternalcanihojr: would you mind joining me in #ubuntu-classroom  <- just click the link06:38
Kamping_Kaisernixternal, reading up06:39
canihojrajam06:39
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tmdx120nixternal: I just got the ripper encoding correctly... Now I cant find my ipod.06:40
Adam_eMnixternal: the kubuntu-splashimages paclage loads up crystal splash as default, and - what's amazing - it works nice, but when i change to anything else - it does not. Even if i just rename the file06:40
nixternalya Adam_eM me either06:40
nixternalAdam_eM: i don't care what splash screen i try..it doesn't work for me...i think it is an issue with my lcd06:41
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Adam_eMnixternal: nice puzzle eh ? I have no idea what can we do with it06:41
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nixternalim getting rid of grubsplashes now ;(06:41
Adam_eMnixternal: me eithher... too hard for me06:42
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Adam_eMmaybe in edgy... ;)06:42
nixternalmaybe06:42
nixternali will pass this on to dev's though and see what they think06:43
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Adam_eMor maybe they will provide some patches or stuff06:43
nixternalneed to do something06:43
nixternalcuz it is bad ;(06:43
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HawkwindCan anyone tell me how to fix this package problem.  When I run an update I get that the two packages are held back.  Then I try to update them and I can't.  Here is the output:  http://pastebin.ca/7883706:44
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Adam_eMnixternal: it's not the most important thing in the world to have the splash going, but it pisses me off... i like splashimages, why can't i use them then ?06:45
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nixternali hear you Adam_eM, i think it would be cool to use one myself06:45
nixternalkind of show off on boot ;)06:45
cd_nixternal: Linux is oddball for me man, last night I had back up files of all my archive files on a cd-r then reinstalled kubuntu and copied those files from cd-r to the archives dir here, but why did it have me update it b4 stuff would work?06:45
Kamping_KaiserHawkwind, if you ahve security and updates enabled then apts just doing its job06:45
nixternalHawkwind: are you trying to update from command line or adept?06:46
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Adam_eMnixternal: why haven't you use such so far then ?06:46
Hawkwindnixternal: From CLI.06:46
nixternali couldn't tell you cd_06:46
avcibls06:46
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nixternalHawkwind: is the adept notifier running in kicker?06:46
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nixternalif so, stop it and then try again06:46
cd_how do I kill ghost id06:46
HawkwindKamping_Kaiser: Well I have a ton of sources in my sources.list so I assume I've got security and updates defined06:46
nixternalor update via adept06:46
cd_cntryboy won't quit06:46
Hawkwindnixternal: I'm not using KDE.  I use E17 as my window manager06:47
nixternalcd_:     /msg nickserv ghost nick passwd06:47
nixternalahhh Hawkwind06:47
cd_k06:47
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nixternalga06:48
nixternalall he had to do was /nick not quit06:48
nixternallol06:48
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nixternalHawkwind: do you have universe and multiverse repositories?06:50
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Hawkwindnixternal: Yes06:50
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snikkerfor a compile the kernel, is better gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 ?06:50
nixternalinteresting...i wonder why it is dl'n and installing libfreetype606:50
Hawkwindnixternal: I just ran adept and at the bottom it says 1807 installed, 2 upgradable, 19007 available06:50
g-nomehello, anyone knows when amarok 1.4.1 will be in the official kubuntu repos?06:50
nixternalsnikker: doesn't matter06:50
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nixternalmore then likely the kernel was done with 3.406:50
nixternalg-nome: soon06:51
nixternalit is in the process of packaging now06:51
g-nomeok thanks06:51
snikkernixternal: ok, thanks a lot06:51
nixternalnp snikker06:51
Hawkwindnixternal: Then I choose to 'Show' upgradable packages only and nothing shows in the window :(06:51
nixternalinteresting06:51
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nixternalHawkwind: have you tried to manually install the libfreetype6?06:51
Adam_eMnixternal: could you tell me if you'd post our problem to the developers so as to be able to gain the solution ?06:51
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Adam_eMnixternal: in a condition you wouldn;t do it via e-mail but on launchpad or such06:52
nixternali will probably do it via launchpad06:52
nixternalor, you could actually file it and i can confirm it for you06:53
Hawkwindnixternal: http://pastebin.ca/7884506:53
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Adam_eMnixternal: maybe it's already done ?06:53
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Adam_eMi am seeking on launchpad now06:53
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nixternalit could be Adam_eM, but ya, check it..if it isn't, and you create it, or it is in there...no matter what, post the bug number in here so i can confirm it if need-be06:54
nixternalHawkwind: e17 doesn't use anythign that would be running in the background that might use aptitude at all is there?06:54
Hawkwindnixternal: Nope06:54
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Adam_eMnixternal: btw... talking about bugs i'm afraid (k)ubuntu cant play videocds... :(06:55
Adam_eMonly VLC can cope it06:56
monomaniacpatI want to remove the splash that is displayed after grub in booting06:56
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nixternalHawkwind: i can update and install it w/o a problem...weird...have you tried rebooting?  i dont' know what else to try06:56
friesenpeternixternal: have a look at "apt-cache policy libfreetype6"06:56
monomaniacpatCan anyone tell me how to do that?06:56
Hawkwindnixternal: I haven't rebooted in a while.  I would prefer not to as I don't see how rebooting would cure this problem to be honest06:57
nixternalthat error or issue you have though, is usually created when something has apt somewhat tied down...that is why i thought about a reboot06:58
friesenpeterah, Hawkwind is having the problems?06:58
Adam_eMmonomaniacpat: remove/comment the line with "splashimage" in your boot/grub/menu.lst06:58
nixternalya friesenpeter06:58
nixternali can install it and upgrade it just fine06:58
Hawkwindnixternal: Nothing anywhere is using apt.  I've checked all running processes06:58
nixternalhahaha Adam_eM06:58
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monomaniacpatAdam_eM: I want it to display the ubuntu one - will that work?06:58
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friesenpeterHawkwind:  have a look at "apt-cache policy libfreetype6"06:58
Adam_eMnixternal: another one (bites the dust :P)06:59
Hawkwindfriesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/7885006:59
nixternali see06:59
sponixaye, how do I get the kubuntu (kde) taskbar at the bottom of the screen when the panel is at the top (I want the two seperated) ?06:59
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Adam_eMmonomaniacpat: no it won't06:59
nixternalsponix: create another panel if you want them seperated06:59
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monomaniacpatAdam_eM: how can I change it to something else then?06:59
friesenpeterHawkwind: your package is up2date, what's the real problem?06:59
nixternalmonomaniacpat: forget about it ;), me and Adam_eM discovered you really can't07:00
Hawkwindfriesenpeter: Read the earlier pastebins.  It's saying that the packages are being held back, but it won't update them07:00
sponixnixternal: oh, and take the tasklist out of the main panel, and just put that into the newly created one ?07:00
nixternalyup07:00
monomaniacpatnixternal: god damn you people - now I'm stuck with a kubuntu splash! *shakes fist*07:00
nixternalwhy you want kde to look like gnome i would never know ;)07:00
Hawkwindfriesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/7883707:00
friesenpeterHawkwind: Have you already tried "apt-get dist-upgrade"?07:00
Adam_eMnixternal: well he could change it but he would never see it :)07:00
nixternal!language07:00
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:00
Hawkwindfriesenpeter: Read that pastebin.  That's the first one I posted that shows the problem07:01
nixternalmonomaniacpat: you can remove it from the menu.lst file manually07:01
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nixternalsudo apt-get remove kubuntu-grub-splashimages07:01
nixternalsudo apt-get remove grub-splashimages07:01
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monomaniacpatthanks07:01
friesenpeterHawkwind: I just did, what's the output from "apt-cache policy libcairo2"07:01
nixternalsudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst07:01
nixternalscroll down and delete the splashimages line07:01
nixternalonce deleted, save file07:02
nixternalsudo update-grub07:02
nixternalsay goodbye to the goofy images on boot ;)07:02
Adam_eMsplashimage, without 's'07:02
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Hawkwindfriesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/7885407:02
nixternaloh..sorry ;)07:02
sponixnixternal: know the name for the type of panel I want to create ?07:03
nixternalhmm..no07:04
nixternallol07:04
nixternallet me try it here07:04
nixternalexternal taskbar?07:04
nixternalpanel?07:04
sponixyeah, that seems to be the one07:04
nixternaldock application bar?07:04
monomaniacpathow do I make firefox the default browser?07:05
friesenpeterHawkwind, have you either "deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main" or "deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main " in your sources list, as in the instructions on http://xgl.compiz.info/ ?07:05
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nixternalmonomaniacpat: "Kmenu > System Setting > KDE Components"07:05
sponixnixternal:  external taskbar seems to be what I'm looking for07:05
nixternalin there for browser, type 'firefox %u'07:05
nixternalw/o the quotes07:06
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n3stormhi everyone07:07
n3stormis there a kde way to manage ssh knownhosts?07:07
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friesenpeterHawkwind: Ah forget it, I erred07:08
n3stormI login with different users to the same machine and then I get errors07:08
monomaniacpatnixternal: thanks07:08
_Shade_nixternal: prv ?07:08
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nixternal_Shade_: whats up?07:10
nixternalmonomaniacpat: no problem!!!07:11
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monomaniacpatnixternal: only.... it doesn't actually work07:11
nixternalit should work07:11
nixternalworks for me07:12
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monomaniacpatlinks from gaim still open in konqueror - do I need to log back in again?07:12
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nixternalahhhh07:12
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nixternalmonomaniacpat: i think you either have to change it in gaim somewhere, you may have to restart gaim to get it to work07:13
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nixternalhmmm07:13
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xwolf-!xgl07:14
ubotuCompiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:14
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nixternalxwolf-: i seen a how-to for kubuntu and xgl/compiz on the ubuntu forums yesterday07:14
nixternali haven't tried it, as it seems it has been working for man07:14
nixternaly07:14
xwolf-that tinyurl got it working for me07:15
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xwolf-already running right now, just trying to configure it07:15
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nixternalahhh07:15
nixternaloh, i didn't even see the tinyurl one07:16
nixternalnice07:16
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monomaniacpatIt was a gaim setting07:17
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soulciao07:19
soulqualcuno mi puo aiutare un secondo?07:20
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DaSkreechnixternal: You know Billy?07:20
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nixternalDaSkreech: many moons ago yes, as i doubt he remembers any of us here07:20
monomaniacpatWhy is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around07:20
DaSkreechGive him a Kubuntu T-Shirt :)07:20
nixternalhe doesn't hang out here in his home town at all07:21
nixternalhis step parents are retards....i played football with his brother since his brother is my age...billy was a senior for the 2nd time my freshman year07:21
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nixternalthat was like in 8707:21
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nixternalok, way to OT ;)07:21
dimitrishi07:22
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nixternalhey dimitris what can we do for you07:22
DaSkreechHa ha :) I'm linking it to Kubunut Promotion :")07:22
dimitriswhere is the apt get, at the K menu ?!?07:22
nixternaldimitris: it is called Adept07:22
nixternalapt-get is a command line tool07:22
dimitrisaaa07:22
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nixternalAdept is apt's gui version for Kubuntu07:22
nixternaladept is "Kmenu > System > Adept"07:23
Hawkwindnixternal: So no ideas about updating these two packages of mine or if I should even worry about them ?07:23
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nixternali have no idea Hawkwind, im baffled at the issue, as i have no problem iwth it07:23
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DaSkreechWhats the package issue?07:23
dimitrisbut how can i intall firefox eith adept !?!07:23
Hawkwindnixternal: I wonder if it's something to do with the compiz/XGL sources.  I don't use compiz/XGL so I could probably get rid of them07:23
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DaSkreechdimitris: You filter on firefox07:24
ash-foxDoes kubuntu have a 'win32-fonts' package? I just can't seem to find it in adept (I have the universe, multiverse and plf repositories)07:24
pete27The 6.06 Kubuntu desktop CD FORMATTED THE WRONG PARTITION!!!07:24
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pete27THIS IS RIDICULOUS07:24
nixternaldimitris: select mozilla-firefox, so scroll down untily ou see it, and right click and tell it to install07:24
pete27It blew off my main OS. I NEEDED THAT07:24
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nixternalpete27: im sorry to hear that happened07:25
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nixternali understand your frustrations, as i have done it in the past myself07:25
pete27Considering how much of a pain in the ass this is, I'm not that mad07:25
HawkwindDaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/7887507:25
dimitrisbut it isn't on the list !07:25
pete27Although I'de like to know how it formatted the wrong partition with the wrong filesystem07:25
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pete27I told it hda7 w/jfs and it did hda6 w/ext307:25
nixternalash-fox: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts07:25
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pete27It took me months to get that gentoo install working perfectly07:26
nixternalash-fox: they are called 'msttcorefonts'07:26
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ash-foxnixternal, thankyou :)07:26
nixternalnp ash-fox07:26
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atripathii thought gnome to be simple and elegant but now i am using kubuntu live CD and its speed is remarkably better07:26
monomaniacpatWhy is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around...?07:26
DaSkreechdimitris: Yes it is07:26
atripathidoes anybody agree to it ?07:26
nixternalatripathi: wait until you install it and upgrade to kde 3.5.3, the speed is even better07:26
dimitrisi open the adept and i search the list07:26
dimitristhere's nowhere firefox !07:27
atripathitruly amazed !07:27
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nixternalfirefox is in there dimitris, it is labeled as 'firefox' and as 'mozilla-firefox'...so it is in there twice actually07:27
nixternalmake sure the filter list either displays firefox in it, or doesn't display anything at all so all packages show07:28
Hawkwindash-fox: You the same ash-fox that I know from Mandriva ?07:28
HawkwindDaSkreech: Any ideas on that package problem in pastebin ?07:28
ash-foxHawkwind that would be true :)07:28
Hawkwindash-fox: Nice nice.  Glad to see you here :)07:28
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nixternaland now he has jumped ship and come to where the real stuff is ;)07:28
ash-foxHawkwind, since you switched to Kubuntu, I decided to try it out for myself. =)07:28
dimitristhere's only a mozilla firefox locale - en07:28
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DaSkreechdimitris: Do a Fetch Updates07:29
pete27and now the kubuntu cd is corrupted so I can't even install kubuntu to get back t owhere I started07:29
Hawkwindnixternal: ash-fox has been a faithful use of my http://SeerOfSouls.com/ site for a long time now.  He's following suit :)07:29
dimitrisbut there isn't the browser07:29
pete27this should make me hate kubuntu07:29
nixternalgood deal07:29
DaSkreechHawkwind: I have it as well. I just ignore it07:29
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HawkwindDaSkreech: Ok thanks.  So no big deal then I assume07:29
dimitrisi did an update feach nothing happen07:29
nixternalpete27: how is the cd corrupted?07:29
DaSkreechHawkwind: As long as you don't install it :)07:29
pete27nixternal: at 75% of the way through install it says /dev/hdc buffer error07:30
dimitriswhat ever !07:30
HawkwindDaSkreech: Well I can't get them installed.  So I guess I don't really need them updated07:30
pete27It freezez 75% of the way through the media test as well07:30
pete27The god of gentoo is punishing me for trying kubuntu07:30
nixternaldimitris: if it isn't there, then you have other issues, as i am looking dead at it on a default install07:30
dimitrisso dose anybody know why amarok can't play mp3 ???07:30
pete27my machine is worthless now, I won't even be able to go to work tomorrow07:30
driz!mp307:30
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:30
nixternaldimitris: you need to install libxine-extracodecs07:30
nixternalomg the lag stinks07:31
DaSkreechdimitris: Can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin?07:31
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zorglu1pete27: why dont you burn another cd ?07:31
dimitriswhat07:31
pete27because the OS with the .iso on it was blown away by the crappy partitioning program07:31
monomaniacpatWhy is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around...?07:31
pete27I told it hda7 w/jfs, and it formatted hda6 w/ext307:32
pete27which blew off my gentoo install07:32
DaSkreechYou have a /home parition?07:32
pete27no sir07:32
zorglu1pete27: oh... i see. dont you have another computer ? or 2 cd drives on this box ?07:32
pete27I have this crappy laptop, but I have to redownload the iso07:32
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pete27and my internet is one of those CDMA cards. ie slow07:32
zorglu1pete27: i know this is uncool, but i dont see any alternative07:33
pete27any alternative to what?07:33
pete27redownloading and installing?07:33
DaSkreechSi07:34
zorglu1pete27: to redownload the iso, reburn and reinstall07:34
dimitris# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:07:34
dimitris#deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted07:34
dimitris# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:07:34
dimitris#deb-src http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted07:34
dimitris## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the07:34
dimitris## distribution.07:34
dimitris# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:07:34
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nixternal!pastebin07:34
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:34
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DaSkreech!pastebin > dimitris07:35
pete27damn, I don't even have a torrent client on this laptop.  What a crappy way to start a day off07:35
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zorglu1pete27: do you have a friend who can download/burn for you ?07:36
zorglu1pete27: like a neighboor07:36
dimitrissorry my keybard stuck and make paste all the time07:36
dimitrisi'm realy sorry about that !07:37
pete27eh, maybe, but it would take an hour in NYC to d/l, burn, pick it up07:37
larson9999a gentoo guy having a hard time setting ubuntu?  sorry, but that's funny07:37
zorglu1dimitris: no harm done. just avoid to do it all the time :)07:37
pete27It's the stupid partitioning program07:37
zorglu1pete27: i dunno, ust trying to find the better solution07:37
DaSkreechdimitris: did you get the PM from ubotu ?07:38
pete27Is the partitioning program known to have bugs or am I the lucky winner?07:38
sjapete27-> If you got kubuntu installed you should have a torrent client -- ktorrent07:38
dimitrisyes07:38
pete27sja: long story, kubuntu isn't installled07:38
DaSkreechsja: It isn't installed :)07:38
pete27and I don't have wifi, I use a CDMA card07:38
pete27so I get 100KB/sec MAX if I'm lucky07:38
pete27and I have to recompile the kernel to get it to work anyway07:39
sjaouch07:39
pete27This box is a gentoo box, so I recompiled the kernel to get it to have net access07:39
dimitrisDaSkreech: do you get it ?07:39
pete27The cable company won't install cable internet here, and my neighbors wifi is too weak oif a signal07:39
dimitris...07:40
pete27ok, d/ling the torrent07:40
DaSkreechdimitris: Paste the file contents at pastebin then paste the URL here07:40
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larson9999sounds like you need to visit a hack site and make an antenna07:41
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pete27wpw kubuntu does some flashy things when you put it in windows07:41
pete27nice07:42
ubuntu_anyone up for some installer help ?07:42
dimitrisDaSreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d1718507:42
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ubuntu_hmm, am I still here07:42
fitohi guys, i want to run a program with a python extension. example : amarok.py its a superkaramba widget, but i try to run it, and it just opens up in kate with the source code.07:43
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dueyfinsterpython <insertprogram/scriptname>07:43
sjatry "sudo python amarok.py"07:43
monomaniacpathow do you turn up the volume in KDE?07:43
dueyfinsterStart Kmix07:43
dueyfinstermonomaniacpat: alt+F2 then type kmix07:44
satafterhhay all, is there  a linux program that would allow me to record from my camcord that would be connected to my tvtuner card right to dvd07:44
dimitrisDaSkreech: so... is everything ok ?!?07:44
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DaSkreechreading07:44
DaSkreechdimitris: Safe to say no :)07:45
DaSkreechDo you have adept open?07:45
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ubuntu_I'm at stage 6 out of 6 of an install onto a lappie and XP is on /dev/sda2, I'd like / on /dev/sda5 but ubiquity seems to want to install onto /dev/sda1 even though I've done the manual option and specified the partitons the way I want them... any clues ?07:45
dimitrisyes07:45
fitoTraceback (most recent call last): File "amarok.py", line 28, in ? :import karamba07:45
fitoTraceback (most recent call last):07:45
fito  File "amarok.py", line 28, in ?07:45
fito    import karamba07:45
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dimitrisDaSkreech: i do07:45
DaSkreechUnder the Adept Menu there is a manage repositories07:46
DaSkreechClick that07:46
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monomaniacpatis it possible to adjust volume with a keyboard shortcut?07:46
dimitrisDaSkreech: i did it now ?!?07:47
pete27I hate to say this, but it looks like the windows partition that kubuntu didn't destroy might be able to connect to  a weak network and get me the iso rather quickly07:47
pete27When windows is your savior, its time to smoke a joint07:47
dimitrisDaSkreech: Now what ?07:47
DaSkreechOk now any line that starts with deb and has main in it highlight and click enable at the bottom07:48
DaSkreechYou may also want to do that to  lines with universe07:48
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monomaniacpatkeyboard shortcuts people?07:49
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elknof1multimedia keys people??07:49
dimitrisDaSkreech: i did it !07:50
dimitrisDaSkreech: now ?07:50
dimitrisDaSkreech: i make a feach update !07:50
DaSkreechdimitris: Found things now?07:50
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dueyfinstermonomaniacpat: With what program are you using the volume?07:51
juliohi07:52
dimitrisDaSkreech: Yes, many :D07:52
DaSkreechAnd firefox?07:52
MrObvious!nvidia07:52
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto07:52
nixternalmonomaniacpat: "Kmenu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility"   <- keyboard shortcuts07:52
dueyfinstermonomaniacpat: I know amaroK and Kaffeine, you can set keys in the settings menu07:52
julioanybody uses BloGTK07:52
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elknof1hi everybody does anyone knows how t enable multimedia hotkeys??07:53
nixternalelknof1: you need to install keytouch07:54
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nixternalsudo apt-get install keytouch07:54
nixternalor you can get it out of adept07:54
nixternalsudo apt-get install keytouch-editor07:54
nixternalsorry07:54
elknof1nixternal, thanks let me try..07:55
nixternalelknof1: never mind that07:55
nixternallet me get you a link07:55
monomaniacpatWhy is kubuntu so bad at displaying gnome apps? gnome has no problem the other way around07:55
nixternalas it seems keytouch isn't in the repositories, just the stoopid editor07:55
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dueyfinstermonomaniacpat: You can set GTK themes07:56
nixternali got keytouch from http://www.kde-apps.org07:56
nixternalelknof1: http://www.kde-apps.org   <- search for keytouch07:56
dueyfinstermonomaniacpat: K -> System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts07:56
monomaniacpatdueyfinster: how?07:56
elknof1nixternal, i've already installed keytouch editor...  do i have to remove it??07:56
monomaniacpateek, gtg07:56
nixternalno elknof107:56
nixternalit is ok ;)07:56
nixternalkeytouch-editor is for command line editing, which is a pain07:57
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larson999linux rocks!!07:57
nixternalthe keytouch program itself is awesome,  as you can select your keyboard and it sets it up automatically07:57
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nixternallet me get you a link07:57
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nixternalelknof1: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/07:57
nixternalelknof1: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/keytouch/keytouch_2.1.99+2.2.0beta-0ubuntu1_i386.deb?download    <-- the download you need07:58
nixternallarson999 glad to hear you think linux rocks!!!07:58
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elknof1nixternal: thanks a lot...07:58
nixternalnp elknof107:59
larson999nixternal: yeah, it was in jeopardy of fading away until i endorsed it07:59
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nixternali have a logitech (older) multimedia kb and it works like a charm07:59
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larson999keytouch - qjoypad for the keyboard?08:01
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nixternalkeytouch sets up your multimedia keys for you08:01
soulc'e un'italiano08:01
soul?08:01
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nixternalnot here soul...only english here ;)08:02
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soulporca08:02
soulputtana08:02
elknof1soul: /join #ubuntu-it08:02
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soulok08:02
soulgrazie08:03
[Fractal] hi08:03
unix_infidelpeace08:03
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BKajtrying to figure out how to install tar.gz files , no luck whatsoever with getting gcc to work08:03
nixternalthx elknof1 for pointing that out08:03
unix_infidelBKaj: INSTALL tar.gz files/08:03
unix_infidel??08:03
unix_infidelyou can extract them, they are just like zip files.08:03
dueyfinsternixternal: Shouldn't we be #ubuntu-en ?!?!?!?!08:03
nixternaltar -zxvf package.tar.gz08:03
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nixternaldont' need it08:03
BKajyeah , but where is the exe file08:04
jlarssonwhat do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?08:04
dueyfinsternixternal: I know, twas a joke!08:04
nixternalthere is no .exe in linux08:04
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unix_infideloh jeez, mandriva flash back.....08:04
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jlarssonwhat do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?08:04
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colmhi folks, is there an easy way (single command) to disable kde eyecandy - running on my server over NX it's all a bit sllloooowww...08:04
dueyfinsterBKaj: you need to untar it, its like a zip file08:04
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jlarssonwhat do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?08:04
mhterreshi everybody08:04
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dueyfinsterBKaj: You can use "sudo tar -xzf <filename>" or right click extract here08:05
dueyfinstermhterres: hi08:05
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BKajI've done that , but the app won't launch , which is it , there 16 friggin files extracted08:06
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nixternalBKaj: please join me in #ubuntu-classroom   <- click the blue to join08:07
dueyfinsterBKaj: Its not going to launch, what you have is a whole lot of code, you need to extract it, then configure it and then make it. Its simpler than it sounds, but if that daunts you, I'd search adept, or get an ubuntu deb file from somewhere08:07
arsohey guys08:07
arsoamarok isnt playing08:07
arsothis is the first time i try it08:08
arsosince installing kubuntu08:08
elknof1nixternal, i think im having probs while installing keytouch, it gave me back that i need some dependencies...  libgnome-menu2   but im working under kde..  would it that be a problem??08:08
dueyfinsterarso: It's proably then engine08:08
elknof1arso, you nees to install extracodecs08:08
nixternalelknof1: it is fine08:08
dueyfinsterarso: goto amarok, look under settings08:08
nixternalgo ahead and install the dependencies08:08
dueyfinsterarso: select xine engine08:09
arsodueyfinster:  ok08:09
dueyfinsterarso: if its not on dropdown list, chances are its not installed, search adept for it then08:09
arsoelknof1:  where do i get this08:09
elknof1arso, is it the first time you use linux??08:09
arsoyes :)08:09
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dueyfinsterarso: also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats08:10
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[Fractal] i have problems installing (k)ubuntu, no partition is shown during install08:10
arsook08:10
elknof1arso: ok let me helo you...   hit alt+space bar, and type adept then enter08:10
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arsowats katapult08:10
elknof1nixternal: how can i start a private room??08:10
[Fractal] bye, I move to kubuntu-es08:11
nixternalyou can /msg nick the person you want to do private with08:11
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arsook i am in adept08:11
elknof1arso, ok now type adept...  its a program that makes easyer start applications...08:11
arsoya i know adept, i am in it08:11
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arsobtw xine engine is selected in amarok08:12
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arsoso i need those extracodecs thing?08:12
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elknof1arso, ok now in view>manage repositories08:12
dueyfinsterarso: If you want to play mp3's etc08:12
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arsoelknof1:  ok i am there, btw i already set up that universe and multiverse08:13
sotiredthink the shuttle will go today?08:13
arsoelknof1:  so now wat?08:14
elknof1arso, excelent, ok exit manage repositories, and return to the packages...08:14
elknof1click on update08:14
arsook08:14
elknof1arso, then in the search tab type extracodes08:14
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arsocodes or codecs?08:15
elknof1the package is libxine-extracodecs08:15
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elknof1codecs*08:15
elknof1sorry08:15
arsok08:15
CntryboyHey all08:15
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arsook i found it08:15
arsoi'll instal that then08:15
elknof1arso, yup...08:15
Cntryboybesides nano what is an txt editor I can use within terminal.. I wanted to use gedit but its not with kde I guess, and kate gives me errors when I sudo kate /dir/dir/dir ect08:16
abattoirCntryboy: vi08:16
elknof1arso, tell me when you finish to setup w32codecs08:16
neoncodeHow do I edit the menu in kbfx?08:16
abattoirCntryboy: sudo vi /dir/dir/dir08:16
Cntryboykk roger08:17
Cntryboythx08:17
arsoelknof1:  ok08:17
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colmhi folks, eventually found enable icon mouseover effects in panel appearance (all others are in  one click in appearance...)  - help no longer reqd thanks08:17
arso13%08:17
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Cntryboyhrmm that kinda looks like nano08:17
Cntryboyis there anything that looks like gedit?08:17
Cntryboygui08:17
arsowat connections do u guys have, i have a 512kbs08:17
Cntryboykate has a nice gui, but not sure why it isn't working08:17
elknof1same08:17
abattoirCntryboy: try kdesu kate, and enter your pwd08:18
arso55%08:18
Cntryboywhat does kdesu mean?08:18
Cntryboyand why can't I just sudo?08:18
elknof1Cntryboy, its to run kde applications as rrot08:19
elknof1root08:19
Cntryboyso kde is set up a lot differ. than gnome?08:19
ubuntu__ah... installation under way... I simply had to remove the windows partitons from step 508:19
Cntryboyive been using sudo with kde and its worked with everything else08:19
abattoirCntryboy: what error do you get w/ sudo kate?08:19
Cntryboymm08:19
abattoir!paste > Cntryboy08:19
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h3sp4wngksudo is for gnome kdesu is for kde08:20
abattoirCntryboy: if its large ;)08:20
Cntryboyyah its huge08:20
DaSkreech!Jimminy > DaSkreech08:20
ubotuI know nothing about Jimminy08:20
elknof1arso, hold just a minute...  i really need a shower...  just 3 mins...08:20
Cntryboykio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!08:20
Cntryboyhas that tons of times08:20
arsoelknof1:  omg :S08:20
arsoelknof1:  anything else i need to do after installing extracodecs08:20
Cntryboykded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed08:21
Cntryboybunch of errors08:21
abattoirCntryboy: what about kdesu kate?08:21
Cntryboykate works by itself though through applic menu08:21
arsoelknof1:  ok , isntallation finishe08:21
Cntryboyhaven't tried it yet08:21
abattoirCntryboy: same error?08:21
ubuntu__arso> are you doing a livecd install by any chance ?08:21
Cntryboysays08:21
Cntryboysu returned with an error08:21
arsoyes , installed it from a live cd08:22
arsoy?08:22
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abattoirCntryboy: there is also kwrite08:22
ubuntu__arso> so am I, half way thru08:22
Cntryboykwrite a txt editor?08:22
abattoirCntryboy: yes08:22
arsoubuntu__:  cool, i finished installing it 3 days ago ;) or 4 days08:23
arsoi am liking it08:23
Cntryboysame thing08:23
Cntryboysame errors08:23
arsogave me a pain in the ass had to reformat all the drives to ext3 coz i wanted todual boot08:23
Cntryboykde seems more probs than what its worth lol08:23
arsoand my old monitor has some resolution problems and shit08:23
Cntryboygnome everything works smoothly08:23
arsobut now its all patched up08:23
abattoirCntryboy: nah....08:23
ubuntu__arso> my install is detecting hardware right now... 10 more mins and it shoudl be done, fingers crossed08:23
arsoi like the look of kde more than gnome08:24
abattoirCntryboy: running breezy or dapper?08:24
Cntryboydapper08:24
arsoubuntu__:  good luck, u plan on dual booting? wat u used before? windows or mac08:24
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ubuntu__arso> I always used linux, but this lappie has XP on it and as far as I know it's still there... I hope :-)08:24
arsolol i see, cool08:25
Cntryboyya'll want me to copy error and put it at pastebin?08:25
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abattoirCntryboy: i used to get that error w/ breezy, but one of sudo and kdesu used to work, now its fine.08:25
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abattoirCntryboy: i wonder why.08:25
abattoirCntryboy: does sudo/kdesu konqueror work?08:25
Cntryboydunno ill use kdesu kate just for ref. and paste the error at paste bin08:25
ubuntu__ah finished... time to take a deep breathe and... reboot, and see if there is anything left of this lappie08:26
ubuntu__gulp.. see ya folks :-)08:26
elknof1arso, im back08:26
arsoggood luck08:26
arsoelknof1:  that was fast, cool08:26
arsoelknof1:  extracodecs installed08:26
arsonow wat08:27
Cntryboymy dial up is even slower with kde only connects me at 9600bbps08:27
Cntryboyand its set to highest lol08:27
elknof1arso, ok now we need to edit your sources.list   ...   so copy paste   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list08:27
elknof1arso, in konsole08:27
arsoyes i know08:27
arsook i am in kate08:28
arsonow wat08:28
arsolol i am 'IN kate"08:28
elknof1now, leave a blank line at the bottom. and paste the next line..08:28
Cntryboyall I wanna do is open up through term the xorg.conf file lol08:28
Cntryboybut use gui08:28
arsoelknof1:  paste wat?08:28
Cntryboyabattoir: this is when I use kdesu kate,  http://pastebin.ca/7892808:29
elknof1deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main08:29
elknof1arso, the wole line08:29
elknof1whole*08:29
elknof1save and close08:30
arsoso from my previous last line, it should be like this :08:30
arsodeb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main08:30
arsodeb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main08:30
arsowith a space between them08:30
abattoirCntryboy: sudo also comes up w/ something similar?08:30
arsosaved and closedf08:30
arsonow wat08:30
elknof1arso, yup08:30
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Cntryboyno08:31
Cntryboynot now08:31
Cntryboyit says this when I do sudo08:31
Cntryboyjs08:31
abattoirCntryboy: try sudo su08:31
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elknof1arso, hold im getting the keys for that line08:32
abattoirCntryboy: and then kate08:32
arso okay08:32
Cntryboywhy is kde so differ. in commands than gnome08:32
elknof1now in konsole c-p      gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B308:32
Cntryboyshould be close to the same things lol08:32
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zorglu1abattoir: Cntryboy: have you tried "kdesu kate"08:33
abattoirCntryboy: sudo does work w/ KDE ;), it just isnt in your case08:33
elknof1arso, now in konsole c-p      gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B308:33
Cntryboyzorglu1: yes ive tried that brb let me paste error08:33
abattoirzorglu1: yes http://pastebin.ca/6799208:33
arsosorry wat?08:33
arsoelknof1:  "konsole c-p" ?08:33
canihojrhow to active java acces in x11vcn? x11vcn -http ?08:34
arsouse quotations please, so i'll know wat to copy08:34
elknof1arso, yeap, open a konsole c-p  (copy - paste)08:34
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Cntryboyhttp://pastebin.ca/7893508:34
Cntryboyabattoir: I pasted the sudo error08:34
arsoohhh ok08:34
arsosorry08:34
arsothought c-p was a command08:34
elknof1arso, "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3"08:34
abattoirCntryboy: can you try rebooting, and see if that works?08:35
elknof1arso, "gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -"08:35
elknof1arso, "sudo apt-get update"08:35
abattoirCntryboy: one more thing, just open kate, w/ sudo kate/kdesu kate dont parse a file...08:35
arsoelknof1:  gpg: requesting key 33BAC1B3 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net08:36
arsowe'll just wait?08:36
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dueyfinsterarso: yep08:36
elknof1arso, yes08:36
arsookay =)08:36
canihojrhow to active java acces in x11vcn? x11vcn -http ?08:36
wichohi!08:36
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arsobtw did a girl EVER get into this  channel :P08:36
Cntryboyabattoir: you lost me on last command08:37
elknof1arso, yeap08:37
crimsunarso: of course. One of the ops and Kubuntu Community Council members is one.08:37
abattoirCntryboy: just try sudo kate.... w/o /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:37
elknof1arso, not me but i meet several...08:37
arsolol wow,08:37
arsoso they KNOW about linux :P08:37
abattoirCntryboy: even if that doesn work, i strong suggest a reboot :)08:37
Cntryboyabattoir: doesn't work the same error, but under utilities it opens up fine08:38
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arsoelknof1:  ok updating08:39
abattoirCntryboy: there is some problem with running a KDE application as root, they should run normally though...08:39
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larson9999arso: sure me.  my real nick is ezchick4u08:39
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abattoirCntryboy: is it possible for you to reboot?08:39
abattoirand try it again?08:39
Cntryboyabattoir: yes08:39
Cntryboybrb08:39
arsolarson9999:  lol cool, ur the first linux-chick i meet lol,08:40
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larson9999go to linuxchicks.org.  i think that's it08:40
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arsoLOL08:40
Lynourehmmm08:40
elknof1arso, "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"08:41
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arsoelknof1:  downloading08:41
elknof1larson9999, ezchik4me  too??  lol08:41
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larson9999elknof1: that's where the ez part comes in.08:41
larson9999i should warn you guys that like all hot chicks on the net, i'm really 5'2" 220lbs and my friends and family call me hank08:42
Eazy-anyone plays UT2004 here?08:42
elknof1larson9999: deam...   hopefully you are a model, and so my dreams chick...08:42
Lynourearso: Plenty of linux girls in the world, though of course could be more, too.08:43
larson9999elknof1: i'm a part time lawyer-model08:43
DaSkreech!women08:43
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.08:43
arsolol i see, inever met one in real life08:43
arsoLOOOOOOOOOOOl  daskreech08:43
elknof1arso, thats all about codecs for multimedia playing...08:43
arsoits still downloading08:43
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