[12:08] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: i sent it using that url in my window paste.ubuntu.nl.org
[12:08] <Zaire> how do you view the history on Konqueror?
[12:08] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: So what is the link ?
[12:08] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17127
[12:09] <Eazy-> hi all. I have to deactivate and activate my network in kcontrol after every reboot to get online...anyone have a clue what might be wrong?
[12:09] <Zaire> how do you view the history on Konqueror?
[12:09] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: kdesu kate /etc/modules
[12:09] <eimajenthat> !wine
[12:09] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[12:10] <eimajenthat> does wine have an irc channel?
[12:10] <h3sp4wn> #winehq
[12:10] <eimajenthat> thx
[12:10] <tomek_> Hi
[12:11] <Zaire> seriously I don't know this browser that well how do you view the history on Konqueror?
[12:11] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[12:11] <tomek_> my name is Tom
[12:11] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: add rt2500pci to the very bottom of that file and save it
[12:11] <tomek_> I am from Poland
[12:11] <tomek_> I have one qestions
[12:11] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Done
[12:11] <LjL> shoot
[12:12] <tomek_> what is better firewwall to Kubuntu ???
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: sudo apt-get install hostapd
[12:12] <tomek_> Firestarter ??
[12:13] <LjL> tomek_: many recommend it, yes. shorewall is also often cited
[12:13] <tomek_> ok thanks
[12:13] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: DONE
[12:13] <Hawkwind> tomek_: I personally prefer ipkungfu
[12:13] <tomek_> :)
[12:13] <Hawkwind> tomek_: It's written and maintained by trappist here in #Kubuntu
[12:14] <tomek_> ok
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: kdesu kate /etc/hostapd.conf
[12:15] <eimajenthat> why doesn't pastebin ever seem to work in Konqueror?
[12:16] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: nothing in it.
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: kdesu /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
[12:18] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: permission denied
[12:18] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: you typed your password in wrong
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: sudo hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf
[12:19] <tmdx120> Operation not supported
[12:19] <tmdx120> Could not enable hostapd mode for interface wlan0
[12:19] <tmdx120> hostap driver initialization failed.
[12:20] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: could not enable hostapd for interface wlan0
[12:20] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: hostapd driver initialization failed
[12:22] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master
[12:22] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17129
[12:22] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[12:23] <schneidexe> hi leute
[12:23] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: try sudo hostapd /etc/hostapd/hostapd.conf again
[12:23] <c11297> e ai ?
[12:24] <schneidexe> hello. i'am am new to kubuntu but i like it allready very much. running the live cd currently, will install soon, but i first wanted to try out some things.
[12:24] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn:  no go this is the outputhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17130
[12:26] <schneidexe> i am migrating from gentoo. so the only thing that keeps me from installing kubuntu right now is, that i am missing some packages i need
[12:26] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I just looked. The file is actually there.
[12:27] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: should I cd to etc and then try it again
[12:27] <schneidexe> can anybody tell me a source where i find aditional repositories for apt?
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: You need the hostapd with support for the devicescape stack
[12:29] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: what does that mean?
[12:29] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: You need a newer version of hostapd
[12:30] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I just checked, the one I have is not upgradeable...
[12:31] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: should I reinstall?
[12:32] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: sudo apt-get remove hostapd
[12:33] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[12:34] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: back into konsole -> cd build
[12:34] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok, Im there
[12:35] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: wget http://hostap.epitest.fi/releases/hostapd-0.5.4.tar.gz
[12:35] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok, where do I put it?
[12:36] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: If you do the wget command it should put it into build
[12:36] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: tar xzvf hostapd-0.5.4.tar.gz
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: cd hostapd
[12:37] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: cd hostapd-0.5.4
[12:38] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: ok
[12:38] <BKaj> well, I install 32 bit dapper in place of the 64 bit version in order to facilitate easier and less problematic installs , but it seems nothing has changed with this version
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: cp defconfig .config
[12:39] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: kdesu kate .config
[12:40] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: kate is up
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: remove the # from the line CONFIG_DRIVER_DEVICESCAPE=y
[12:40] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: And then save the file
[12:41] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: done
[12:42] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: make (from in the hostapd-0.5.4 directory
[12:42] <phoenix198> Hello all; I could use a bit of help.  I've checked the forums, etc.. and gotten my problem partially solved.  I have a laptop running Kubuntu6.06 with a WiFi card builtin, bcm4306.  I cannot connect to my wireless network though, for some reason.  Anyone have some suggestions?
[12:42] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I got some errors. but its done
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: Is the last line Error 1 ?
[12:43] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: yes
[12:44] <ubuntu_> bjrrr ttttttttttttt l m onde
[12:44] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17131
[12:45] <dueyfinster> Anyone get Konversation to use /away command successfully? It keeps crashing on me
[12:45] <sja> phoenix198 -> Check out http://greg.primate.net/m6805/
[12:46] <phoenix198> sja:  Thanks!  Similar model, not exactly the same, but I appreciate the help!
[12:46] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: Still with me?
[12:47] <zorglu1> dueyfinster: crashing ?
[12:47] <zorglu1> wow no good. you sure ?
[12:47] <dueyfinster> zorglu1: Yes, just crashes
[12:47] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: I am trying to work out how to get hostapd to build properly
[12:48] <phoenix198> sja:  Not quite what I'm looking for actually.  The wireless card is already working to the point where it sees my network; it just seems to refuse to actually connect for some reason.
[12:48] <dueyfinster> zorglu1: I haven't started it in konsole, to see output
[12:48] <zorglu1> dunno the solution. but it seems real bad
[12:48] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: sorry, just checking in.
[12:49] <dj_baggio> !saa7134
[12:49] <ubotu> I know nothing about saa7134
[12:49] <swhalen> hello. Has anyone gotten ivtv to work on dapper?
[12:49] <sja> phoenix198 ->  Oh well, sorry.  Just saw the line at that URL that said ...
[12:49] <sja> There are no linux drivers for the on-board Broadcom BCM4306 wireless card. However, you can still make it work under linux using NDISWrapper (which enables you to use the windows drivers in linux).
[12:50] <Dannilion> that's not true
[12:50] <Dannilion> I use a broadcom 4306 chipset in my card
[12:50] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  I need your help then!
[12:50] <Dannilion> ok :)
[12:50] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: the kids are calling! Can I reach you later?
[12:51] <Dannilion> you using Dapper?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: Maybe or maybe tommorow (It is midnight here)
[12:51] <Pupeno> Is there a centralized place to post installation experiences ?
[12:51] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  I have a bcm4306 also in my laptop.  It's recognizing the card now (used bcm43xx-fwcutter..) and it can see my home network.  However, it will not connect with all of the correct settings. :\
[12:51] <visik7> anyone have a fix for bring up usplash when kdm shutdown ?
[12:51] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: The new driver is working which is a good sign at least
[12:51] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  Yes, Dapper Drake, Kubuntu
[12:52] <swhalen> hello. Has anyone gotten ivtv to work on dapper?
[12:52] <pietro> qualche italiano?
[12:52] <Dannilion> ok
[12:52] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: great! then ther is hope.
[12:52] <arcturus> hmmm .... kubuntu automatix is now out
[12:52] <Dannilion> right
[12:52] <gnomefreak> !it
[12:52] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:52] <arcturus> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294&highlight=kubuntu
[12:52] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: I will try to track you sone later.
[12:53] <tmdx120> h3sp4wn: THNKS!
[12:53] <Dannilion> you know Kmenu -> Internet -> Wireless Manager
[12:53] <pietro> 0k grazie ma come ci vado
[12:53] <Dannilion> does that bring up any networks?
[12:53] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  Stupidest question I will ask, but is there a difference between ESSID and SSID?
[12:53] <h3sp4wn> tmdx120: ok I have one of those cards in a box somewhere I may install it and see if I Can get it working properly
[12:53] <Dannilion> phoenix198: no
[12:54] <pietro> join/#kubuntu-it
[12:54] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  Wireless Assistant brings up the one Wireless network I have.
[12:54] <Dannilion> and it won't let you connect to it?
[12:54] <nekromaan> hello, i compiled a new kernel 2.6.17.3 and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 , i also cant use my second hard drive, what options do i have to en/disable in the kernel menu?
[12:54] <pietro> join/ #kubuntu-it
[12:55] <phoenix198> Dannilion: No; it just sits on "connecting to 'homegroup'..."
[12:55] <Pupeno> can't the installer create reiserfs partitions ?
[12:55] <Dannilion> hummm
[12:55] <phoenix198> And then fails
[12:55] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: Have you also upgraded udev ?
[12:55] <Dannilion> have you got any security on the network?
[12:55] <phoenix198> Dannilion:  I have it set to pull an IP, etc.. and the Security is set to WEP Shared
[12:55] <Dannilion> ok, can you disable any security for now?
[12:56] <phoenix198> Dannilion: Sure.  One second.
[12:56] <Dannilion> just to check you can connect ok
[12:57] <BKaj> darn...I've forgotten the cmd for installing dpkg in the konsole !
[12:58] <Dannilion> sudo dpkg -i whatever.deb
[12:58] <BKaj> ok thx Dannilion
[12:58] <TheHighChild> Any suggested Instant Messengers that aren't Kopete or Gaim?
[12:59] <Dannilion> amsn?
[12:59] <phoenix_> Dannilion:  Back, got knocked off when disabling security on router.  I still cannot connect.
 how do i upgrade udev? :/
[12:59] <Dannilion> ok
[12:59] <Dannilion> Erm... ypu
[12:59] <Dannilion> you're going to have to ask someone with knowledge now
[12:59] <Dannilion> mine worked straightaway with no security
[12:59] <Dannilion> sorry :(
[01:00] <phoenix_> Dannilion: lol.  Did yours "just work." or did you have to use NDISWrapper or fwcutter to get it working?
[01:00] <Dannilion> neither
[01:00] <Dannilion> I downloaded a driver
[01:00] <TheHighChild> Dannilion: Thanks but I need something to support Jabber, AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo
[01:00] <Dannilion> oh, ok
[01:00] <Dannilion> centericq does, but that's cli
[01:00] <phoenix_> Dannilion:  What driver...?/  Where can I get it? :)
[01:01] <Dannilion> you checked https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper ?
[01:01] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: What do  you need from 2.6.17 ?
[01:01] <Dannilion> Thats where I found it
[01:02] <phoenix_> Thanks for your help Dannilion!
 kernel headers, and it will be good if i know why new kernels dont work, i had the same problem with the 2.6.17.1
[01:02] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: The only way I managed to get 2.6.17 working on dapper was by backporting udev from debian sid
[01:03] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: Can't Kopete do that ?
[01:03] <TheHighChild> Pupeno: yeah, I'm looking for a messenger that isn't Kopete or Gaim. I think they both suck terribly
 did you have the same problem, with mounting the other hard drive and device mapper?
[01:03] <Sansana> what's so bad about kopete?
[01:03] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: Try Psi
[01:03] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: have you reported the suckiness to http://bugs.kde.org ?
[01:04] <Pupeno> dueyfinster: it doesn't do what is expected.
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: Yep
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: Some stuff has changed name also
[01:04] <dueyfinster> Pupeno: Transports?
[01:04] <TheHighChild> Pupeno: My reasons for dislike are all aesthetic, not functionality
 can you plz tell me where/how to upgrade it?
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: For example you need xtables support and all the iptables modules again
[01:04] <TheHighChild> I'd love kopete if it weren't for the freaky little blue heads beside everyones name
 where do i have to activate them?
[01:05] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: It could quite easily hose your system so I am not willing to do it unless you tell me what you need from 2.6.17
[01:05] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: You can turn that off and change icons, as far as I can recall
[01:05] <Dannilion> yup
[01:05] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: is that just it ? you'll go into the grail quest and use an application that doesn't integrate just because of some blue heads ?
[01:05] <Dannilion> mine has the buddy icons next to the messages
 but when will those new kernels run with the ubuntu system :( ... i need the kernel-headers for 2.6.15-25-386 to install vmware
[01:06] <TheHighChild> dueyfinster: I tried everything to get rid of the blue heads. I can change everything bu them. i even trolled #kopete and they said the same
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: edgy eft will have 2.6.17
[01:07] <Sansana> TheHighChild but you can change them into buddy icons
[01:07] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: if you use pictures, you may be able to get rid of the blue heads.
[01:07] <nekromaan> lool, do you know when edgy will come out? ^^
 in dec ;)
[01:07] <TheHighChild> Pupeno: Can't help it. I think all the icons suck but I could live with them, not the blue heads. i'll continue with gaim before I bog my UI down with crap
[01:07] <OOD> october
[01:07] <nekromaan> oh ok :D sorry
[01:07] <nekromaan> really october?
[01:07] <TheHighChild> Sansana: yes you can change them into buddy icons but I have hundreds (maybe thousands) of buddies. Changing them isn't an option
[01:08] <OOD> yea, dapper was delayed by 2 months, but edgy is following the regular interval
[01:08] <Sansana> TheHighChild if you really want to do so, what's so bad about blue heads? :)
[01:08] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.15-25-386
[01:08] <OOD> so in october :)
[01:08] <Sansana> I really don't mind them
[01:08] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: did you report on http://bugs.kde.org ? if it is importat to you, it might be importat for others (to be able to change the blue heads for... let's say, red heads or green hands).
[01:08] <TheHighChild> Sansana: They're obfuscating
[01:08] <TheHighChild> Pupeno: Ok. I'll make a note
[01:08] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: Yep, You can change them unfortunately
 i do not have them in my cache/sources; so i have to wait until edgy to compile new kernels?
[01:09] <dueyfinster> Pupeno: Good suggestion
[01:09] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: sorry typo can't
[01:09] <h3sp4wn> nekromaan: You can compile 2.6.16 without problems on dapper
[01:09] <TheHighChild> I like minimal disruption of my UI space. I have a 14" laptop screen, i just think it's very cluttered (kopete) I love gaim's layout but it doesn't seem to work very well with other clients
[01:09] <Pupeno> dueyfinster: I don't understand why doesn't more people report bugs when they find something disturbing... this is not Microsoft; there are real developers to take care and fix it or something.
 aha? which one, the latest?
[01:11] <h3sp4wn> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/linux-2.6.16.23.tar.gz
[01:11] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: unfortunately thats the way it is at the moment. You should try switch to jabber with transports, or use a native application like wengo or skype (ugh), but then you have a cache 22 if you go for the latter
[01:11] <dueyfinster> Pupeno: I know, we really should do more to encourage people
[01:12] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: That is convincing your contacts to move
 ok, thx, i hope it will work tomorrow
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> That should just build normally
[01:12] <TheHighChild> I'm alright with gaim. It works and looks clean. I was hoping for something that looked a little more KDe. Gonna try this PSI
[01:12] <h3sp4wn> TheHighChild: You tried gaim 2?
[01:13] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: Yeah, using it now but I don't see much difference (hard to believe it's a 2.0)
[01:13] <Pupeno> Psi is a good Qt-based Jabber client. I recommend it, along with exodus, to all Win users.
[01:13] <TheHighChild> h3sp4wn: however, I get lets reports of problems
[01:13] <nekromaan> thx good night !
[01:14] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: do! I love the simolicity of Psi, and it works very well in KDE. You can set up transports to different protocols, its not hard
[01:14] <TheHighChild> dueyfinster: I see MSn and jabber icons, off hand do you know if it supports AIM?
[01:14] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: Yes it does, heres a guide with Miranda client: http://www.bigblueball.com/forums/google-talk-news/33739-connect-google-talk-aim-msn-yahoo.html
[01:15] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: Psi isn't that different
[01:15] <Pupeno> what kernel should I install for intel core duo ? (that has smp support ?)
[01:15] <TheHighChild> dueyfinster: Will take a look, thanks. I'll follow up with my experiences
[01:15] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: I recommend jabber.cz (Czech republic one) as a transport
[01:16] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: AIM, Yahoo and MSN are supported on Jabber.cz
[01:17] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: You can also get IRC, ICQ, Gadu-Gadu, Novell and RSS transports, but they are a bit of a niche
[01:18] <TheHighChild> ICQ should work if I can get AIM working. if nothing else, i can add ICQ clients through AIM and vice versa now that they're co-owned
[01:18] <TheHighChild> dueyfinster: So do i need to register to a transport?
[01:18] <dueyfinster> TheHighChild: Yep, also see http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.shtml for a comprehensive server list
[01:23] <Pupeno> TheHighChild: you don't need to register on the server where the transport is running. You only need a jabber account.
[01:25] <TheHighChild> Pupeno: Ok. I have an account on nedbsd.nl
[01:27] <humbert> hello all
[01:27] <Fiya_werkin> how can you tell what 'device' your burner is?
[01:28] <carl_> cdrecord -scanbus
[01:29] <Fiya_werkin> but that doesn't say which /dev/ it is?
[01:30] <eimajenthat> authenticationkeys!
[01:30] <eimajenthat> no, wait
[01:30] <eimajenthat> !authenticationkeys
[01:30] <humbert> somebody know how to debug ktorrent ?
[01:30] <ubotu> I know nothing about authenticationkeys
[01:30] <humbert> error : http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45119
[01:31] <humbert> allo ?
[01:32] <humbert> nothing works with that OS
[01:32] <humbert> my computr bugs 2 X more
[01:33] <Pupeno> what kernel should I install for intel core duo ? (that has smp support ?)
[01:34] <D4m4ge> bye all
[01:34] <humbert> smbdy can help me with this ktorrent error ?
[01:34] <humbert> what i do ?
[01:34] <humbert> i enter something in konsole ?
[01:35] <humbert> i desinstall or reinstall the soft ?
[01:36] <carl_> depending on your amount of drives it should be /dev/hdc
[01:36] <humbert> heu speak newbie please
[01:36] <sensei> humbert: Is that your bugreport?
[01:37] <humbert> i install kubuntu yesterday
[01:37] <carl_> sorry, I was speaking to Fiya_werkin
[01:37] <humbert> yes error : SISGABRT
[01:37] <humbert> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45119
[01:38] <sensei> Why do you keep pasting that link?
[01:38] <humbert> because i dont see an answer to my bug
[01:38] <humbert> normally there is a manual when you have an error
[01:38] <sensei> That's hardly your bug
[01:39] <humbert> THERE IS NO REAL DEBUGGING ?
[01:39] <humbert> sorry no MAJ
[01:39] <sensei> man gdb
[01:39] <sensei> If you know how to debug, you'd know how to find a debugger, so don't bother
[01:40] <Fiya_werkin> sorry, carl_ i think its /dev/hda1, can't seem to get makedvd to work right tho
[01:41] <humbert> so no posibility to debug
[01:42] <sensei> humbert: Surely.. just that I strongly doubt you are able to
[01:42] <sensei> Fiya_werkin: Looking for your burner, are you?
[01:42] <humbert> there is no possibility you take control of my computer ?
[01:42] <humbert> or something like that ?
[01:42] <carl_> do you have a cdrom0 or so in /media?
[01:43] <Fiya_werkin> sensei: found it, it's /dev/hda
[01:43] <sensei> humbert: Yes there is, but you don't want that
[01:43] <humbert> i want a computer working
[01:43] <humbert> just that
[01:43] <Fiya_werkin> getting error : mkisofs: Unable to make a DVD-Video image. trying to burn with makedvd
[01:43] <sensei> Fiya_werkin: Okay, good.. dmesg |grep hda could've told you that ;) Just a tip for next time
[01:43] <Fiya_werkin> i have a feeling it's going to be the same as the mkfifo error i had earlier, can't work on vfat partitions
[01:43] <sensei> humbert: Yeah, then it's not a good idea to invite complete strangers to take control over your pc
[01:44] <sensei> humbert: What's the problem anyways?
[01:44] <humbert> just ktorrent not working
[01:44] <humbert> and my computer gets blocked on internet
[01:44] <sensei> 'not working' that's great
[01:44] <humbert> maybe i dont parameter my computer correctly
[01:45] <crimsun> could you be more descriptive about ktorrent "not working"?
[01:45] <humbert> yes i was thinking linux was reliable
[01:45] <sensei> When you get a flat tire and leave it to the work shop and they ask you what the problem is, you say "it doesn't work"?
[01:45] <humbert> well i know some informatics but on windows
[01:45] <sja> humbert-> some ISP block bit torrent protocol ....
[01:45] <humbert> its my firsts steps on linux
[01:46] <sja> if you can't get Ktorrent working, try Azureus (it's better anyway, IMHO)
[01:46] <humbert> and honnestly i am quite confused to face all these problems
[01:46] <humbert> but i try to improve my understanding of linux distributions
[01:46] <humbert> azureus ?
[01:47] <humbert> like bittorrent ?
[01:47] <sensei> humbert: You have yet to define 'doesn't work'
[01:47] <humbert> well i try to open ktorrent
[01:47] <humbert> and there is a error message
[01:47] <humbert> simple
[01:47] <sensei> WHAT ERROR MESASGE?!
[01:48] <sensei> *breathe slowly ten times and completely ignore humbert*
[01:48] <humbert> application torent stops
[01:48] <humbert> and create a signal 6 SIGABRT
[01:48] <humbert> ignore ?
[01:48] <humbert> you ignore new users in the sh..?
[01:48] <humbert> ok
[01:49] <gemidjy> anyone has idea how to disable "KOrganizer Power daemon" to settle itself in the tray when I start Kontact ? (I dont use reminders)
[01:49] <humbert> i let you use linux and i will use windows like 95% users
[01:49] <humbert> with this behavious be sure not to develop your community
[01:49] <sensei> You excpect someone to stop you?
[01:49] <sensei> expect*
[01:50] <humbert> stop what ?
[01:50] <sensei> nm
[01:50] <humbert> just tell me what i do with this webpage ?
[01:50] <Frederick> folks isnt there a yacc package?
[01:50] <gemidjy> sensei: stfu, dont feed him
[01:51] <sensei> gemidjy: I won't
[01:51] <sensei> Feed it that is
[01:51] <humbert> i copy the indications in konsole ?
[01:51] <bur[n] er> anyone know if there is an amarok 1.4.1 .deb out there for dapper?
[01:51] <gemidjy> humbert: how do u expect to get help after that, so give up
[01:52] <sensei> Frederick: Would byacc do ?
[01:52] <humbert> after what ?
[01:52] <gemidjy> bur[n] er: just was checking amarok.kde.org and sow it is down
[01:52] <Frederick> sensei, I think it would do as bison would do but they are not the same thing
[01:53] <bur[n] er> gemidjy: i think it's because of the digg story
[01:53] <gemidjy> haha, might be
[01:53] <crimsun> bur[n] er: I think imbrandon made some
[01:53] <bur[n] er> gemidjy: i didn't see any mention of one on kubuntu.org... usually mr riddell makes them
[01:53] <sensei> I suppose not, since it'd be redundant if it was :) If you can't find a third party .deb somewhere.. use the source, Luke.. or w/e :)
[01:53] <bur[n] er> crimsun: don't suppose you have an url?
[01:53] <gemidjy> bur[n] er: build from source after all :)
[01:53] <crimsun> bur[n] er: I don't
[01:54] <bur[n] er> I don't wanna get all the dev libs and all that jazz ;)
[01:54] <h3sp4wn> "deb http://www.buntudot.org/people/~imbrandon/packages/ ./"
[01:54] <bur[n] er> :)
[01:55] <gemidjy> worth trying its stability
[01:56] <bur[n] er> i'm anxious to try the last.fm stuff
[01:57] <gemidjy> i did under slack, it crashed
[01:57] <gemidjy> might be the connection
[01:58] <Glassius> i'm trying to get frequency scaling to work properly on my pentium-m, but for some reasons there only seems to be two available steps, 600mhz and 1,5ghz...any idea on how to get the other steps working?
[01:59] <KinGetana> hmm.. is the mplayer supposed to show me the bitrates and such when playin files?
[01:59] <bur[n] er> mine just worked :\
[02:00] <Glassius> "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies" returns "1500000 600000", the same does cpufreq-info
[02:01] <KinGetana> i somehow just can not find a way to get qualityinformation of my clips.. :(
[02:02] <bur[n] er> KinGetana: kaffeine?
[02:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> Is there going to be an update for the 2.6.17.3 kernel?
[02:03] <gemidjy> where can I find the original sources.lst file from Kubuntu Dapper?
[02:03] <crimsun> CheeseBurgerMan: for dapper? no.
[02:04] <sensei> KinGetana: yes
[02:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Alright.
[02:04] <sensei> VIDEO:  MPEG2  480x480  (aspect 2)  29.970 fps  2496.0 kbps (312.0 kbyte/s)
[02:04] <sensei> Like so
[02:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Out of curiosity, why not?
[02:05] <crimsun> CheeseBurgerMan: we don't discard 8 months of stabilisation work to just plop in a new kernel.
[02:05] <gemidjy> Kde seems faster under Kubuntu...strange
[02:05] <gemidjy> were there tweaks on KDE too ?
[02:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> OK. I thought it was already updated once from 2.6.15.23 or something
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> gemidjy: Faster than what ?
[02:06] <gemidjy> h3sp4wn: faster than on other distros
[02:06] <crimsun> CheeseBurgerMan: yes, 2.6.15 (abi 25.43)
[02:07] <KinGetana> bur[n] er: thaks a buck :D finally i got them, funny though, it doesn't play any of those files, but it does show the codecs, still, the bitrate remains a mystery.. any idea how that could be seen?
[02:07] <gemidjy> and why I have only "linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15-23-686" while I have Linux 2.6.15-25-386 as kernel (no 2.6.15-25-386 in apt-cache search either)
[02:07] <h3sp4wn> gemidjy: For me kde run's much faster under kanotix (On my laptop with limited resources)
[02:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Pardon the ignorance, but how is this kernel worse than that upgrade?
[02:08] <gemidjy> h3sp4wn: well on my laptop gnome is the fastest environment
[02:08] <KinGetana> sensei: nice, how'd that happen :) ?
[02:09] <Glassius> does anyone have an idea on how to get the other frequency steps working?
[02:09] <h3sp4wn> gemidjy: Do you have alot of memory ? (I only have 256Mb on mine and gnome is dog slow as is kubuntu) but kanotix is fast (and has kde)
[02:09] <TheHighChild> dueyfinster: I played with PSi a bit and got everything working, however I don't think i am going to adopt it. It would take me a whole day just to reauthenticate all of my buddies
[02:10] <sensei> KinGetana: It's in the output when starting a clip just as usual
[02:12] <Kadran> hi all, does any one have any knowlage about 'Layout Engines' like Gecko and Trident
[02:13] <raytray25> does Kontact auto check for mail?
[02:13] <nixternal> if you set it to do so raytray25
[02:13] <nixternal> you need to configure kmail in order to do so
[02:13] <raytray25> Ok.
[02:14] <raytray25> Where under that menu?
[02:15] <nixternal> in kontact goto "Settings > Configure Kmail"
[02:15] <nixternal> then goto "Accounts > Modify"
[02:15] <nixternal> you will see the interval checking there
[02:16] <raytray25> Thank You.
[02:16] <nixternal> np sir
[02:16] <KinGetana> sensei: if it's ok with u, could u kinda draw a map for me? im not quite sure what u mean by "output when starting a clip just as usual", so like mplayer/what/where?
[02:17] <KinGetana> in the options, i just don't see an option saying output, anywhere
[02:17] <m_tadeu> can anyone help with SynCE?
[02:17] <sensei> KinGetana: If you start a clip/movie from a console
[02:18] <sensei> And you'll probably have to scroll up a line or two, and you'll see four lines of [02:18] <sensei> Just over the first set of [02:18] <nixternal> m_tadeu: you might receive a better answer if you visit #synce
[02:19] <nixternal> although there is only 1 person in that channel
[02:19] <m_tadeu> nixternal: would be nice, but noone there :)
[02:19] <nixternal> what issue are you having?
[02:19] <nixternal> are you using syncekonnector
[02:20] <m_tadeu> nixternal: i'm in a previous fase...trying to use rapip
[02:20] <KinGetana> sensei; ok, so i'll just have to get used to using the console :) i'm still kinda stuck in the win time, so more used to grafical solutions, thanks, i'll give it a go o/
[02:21] <sensei> Does anyone know of a debian package for icpld ?
[02:21] <nixternal> ok m_tadeu you just confused me with all that...i have never used synce, as i just posted a comment from their website in my last question
[02:21] <sensei> Or ubuntu
[02:21] <m_tadeu> nixternal: oki...thx anyway :)
[02:22] <nixternal> sorry i couldn't help on that one
[02:23] <m_tadeu> nixternal: its ok...btw, when iptables -L is enptry, it means that everything is open, right?
[02:24] <sensei> Yes
[02:24] <BKaj> things seem ok now , I managed to get automatix installed and it installed my choices ...Yay !
[02:24] <sensei> Well, you could be running ipchains, but that's *highly unlikely*
[02:25] <m_tadeu> thx guys :)
[02:25] <BKaj> but I had to switch to 32 bit cuz the 64 wasn't working for my choices
[02:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Should've used EasyUbuntu. :P
[02:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Works quite well on amd64
[02:31] <BKaj> CheeseBurgerMan: too late now ...hindsight is 20-20 where were ya 6 hrs ago when i was asking for advice :)
[02:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> 6 hours ago I was...exercising. :P
[02:31] <raytray25> Konqueror isn't loading all the images on a website.
[02:31] <CheeseBurgerMan> raytray25: Adblock turned on?
[02:32] <raytray25> actually yes.
[02:32] <raytray25> let me toggle that
[02:32] <raytray25> Ah thanks. is there a way the images can load with ad block off?
[02:32] <lucas> allright i finally installed kubuntu! is there a way to install the nvidia driver patch?
[02:33] <crimsun> it's a known issue if you're using 3.5.3, raytray25
[02:33] <CheeseBurgerMan> Ow, glad I use Flock.
[02:33] <crimsun> there's a fix for it
[02:33] <raytray25> i'm using 3.5.2 if you talking about konqueror version...
[02:34] <raytray25> Where can i find the fix?
[02:34] <crimsun> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128566
[02:35] <raytray25> is it the thing at the bottem that's called patch?
[02:36] <raytray25> it opened an attachment.cgi
[02:36] <raytray25> what do i do with it?
[02:36] <poopyhead> the kubuntu installer dies at the end when it tries to install grub, could it be that grub doesn't like the xfs partition?
[02:37] <poopyhead> er, rather, my / is xfs and I don't have a separate boot, so does grub just not work on xfs or is it known to work?
[02:37] <crimsun> grub works with xfs
[02:37] <poopyhead> well crap
[02:38] <poopyhead> I was hoping xfs was the problem, trying w/ ext3 now..
[02:49] <lucas> hi
[02:49] <poopyhead> ah, it worked!
[02:49] <lucas> i cant install the nvidia drivers
[02:49] <poopyhead> grub no likie xfs
[02:49] <poopyhead> cya, time to reboot
[02:49] <raytray25> how do add the patch to konqueror?
[02:49] <avcib> lucas: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[02:49] <sensei> raytray25: Designate an hour or two in your calendar, get the source, use the 'patch' command, rebuild and enjoy
[02:49] <lucas> avcib: thank you.
[02:49] <arcturus> !nvidia
[02:49] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:49] <raytray25> sensei: i have time now, your not serious are you? source of konqueror?
[02:49] <sensei> I am
[02:50] <raytray25> Where do i find the source?
[02:50] <sensei> I don't know much about the kubuntu way of things, but if you're lucky, some kind soul will apply it and release an update soon
[02:50] <sensei> Oh don't even go there ;) I'm not falling for this one. It's bound to break me down into tears
[02:52] <BKaj> hmmm, can't seem to find the keyboard config list in the hardware ...any sugestions ?
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> how do i configure php to work with mysql
[02:53] <Tommy2k4> phpmyadmin works fine
[02:54] <sysbob> hello
[02:54] <sysbob> could someone please help me instal gimpshop on dapper?
[02:55] <sensei> sysbob: You're asking for someone to hold your hand, or you have an actual question?
[02:55] <sysbob> well i don't see the package anywhere
[02:55] <sysbob> only rpms
[02:55] <sysbob> and i converted the rpm to a deb and it givs me erros
[02:56] <sysbob> so i do't know what to try next
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> maybe try sudo apt-get install gimpshop
[02:56] <sysbob> gimpshop is not a package name
[02:56] <sysbob> in my sources
[02:56] <sensei> http://www.plasticbugs.com/blogimg/gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2  There you go
[02:56] <Tommy2k4> sudo apt-cache search gimpshop
[02:57] <sysbob> that sudo command returns nothing
[02:57] <lucas> avcib: i dont have synaptic
[02:57] <sysbob> sensi: is that tar file sources?
[02:57] <sensei> Yes
[02:57] <sysbob> i wouldn't know howto compile and install from sources
[02:58] <Tommy2k4> ./configure
[02:58] <Tommy2k4> make
[02:58] <sensei> Google knows
[02:58] <Tommy2k4> sudo make install
[02:58] <sensei> And Tommy2k4
[02:58] <bimberi> s/sudo make install/checkinstall/
[02:58] <bimberi> oops, *sudo checkinstall*
[02:58] <bimberi> !checkinstall
[02:58] <ubotu> checkinstall is a replacement for "make install", when compiling. It will inflate a .deb package for you to install, which will then be listed in the database. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[02:58] <arcturus> he needs to install certain install packages, right?
[02:58] <arcturus> utilities of some sort?
[02:59] <sensei> arcturus: Yes, hopefully they exist in the repos, otherwise he's left with sources
[02:59] <arcturus> what are they?
[02:59] <arcturus> simply typing 'make' won't work
[02:59] <arcturus> without the compile utilities
[02:59] <bimberi> !compiling
[02:59] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[03:00] <sensei> build-essensial
[03:00] <sensei> build-essential even
[03:00] <sysbob> okay i am getting a bunch of different advice :(
[03:01] <sysbob> so untar the download step 1
[03:02] <sysbob> then ./compile .. ?
[03:02] <arcturus> i think you need to: apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <arcturus> this makes the other stuff work
[03:02] <sensei> sysbob: I really see no point in anyone of us sitting here and wite something that 1000000 of people already have written on sites found through google
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> grr
[03:04] <sysbob> sensei: i would know where to begin without some help
[03:04] <sensei> sudo apt-get install build-essential && tar -jxvf gimpshop-2.2.11.tar.bz2 && cd gimpshop-2.2.11 && ./configure && make && checkinstall
[03:04] <Tommy2k4> could my pc get any slower
[03:04] <sensei> There, hope you learned something and never have to ask this again.
[03:05] <sysbob> ./configure is not in the package
[03:05] <sensei> Thing is, most people don't. They're back here, a week later "How do I extract a .tar.bz2 file?".. and wait for someone to spoon feed them again
[03:05] <sensei> Ok, so leave that part out then
[03:05] <sysbob> sudo make gives me errors no target specified
[03:05] <sysbob> no makefile found
[03:06] <sysbob> and i am in the right fdir
[03:06] <sensei> sysbob: sh autogen.sh ?
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> well check
[03:06] <Tommy2k4> type ls
[03:06] <sysbob> gimpshop-2.2.1
[03:06] <sysbob> it's not there
[03:06] <sensei> ffs
[03:06] <sensei> cd gimpshop-2.2.1
[03:07] <sysbob> makefile.msc is all
[03:07] <sysbob> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:08] <sysbob> flashpc@flash:~/gimpshop/gimp-2.2.11$
[03:08] <jehnx> How can I change the auto-start options of programs?  I've got amaroK starting as soon as I log in, and I don't wish for it to.
[03:08] <sensei> Ok, I don't know what kinf of package you've downloaded.. but when I downloaded that file, it surely gave me a configure script
[03:09] <sensei> jehnx: Wild stab in the dark, check out ~/.kde/Autostart
[03:09] <jehnx> Yeh, I looked in there but nothing is located in it.
[03:09] <jehnx> Thanks, though.  Anyone else have another idea?
[03:10] <sysbob> okay i ran ./confiure but make still give sme the no target error
[03:11] <sysbob> hrm hold on
[03:11] <sysbob> checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is requ
[03:11] <jehnx> Also, oftentimes I open programs, they appear in the taskbar as if they're loading, but they never do load, and eventually disappear from the taskbar.  Ideas on why?
[03:12] <sensei> jehnx: I've 'discovered' that if you don't close a program when you log out/reboot, it's restore with the session next time you log in
[03:12] <sensei> So maybe try and close all apps, log out, and log back in, and see if they still autostart
[03:13] <jehnx> sensei: Ok, well maybe that's it, then, I'll give it a try next time I log out.  Thanks for your input.  :)
[03:13] <sensei> jehnx: Any time
[03:13] <sensei> sysbob: So the natural thing to do is.. ?
[03:14] <sysbob> get xml-parser-pm
[03:14] <avcib> jehnx: go to System Settings and select KDE Components. Then select Session Manager. You can select whether to restore or not your old session there.
[03:14] <jehnx> avcib: Will do.  thanks.  :)
[03:14] <sensei> -perl
[03:15] <jehnx> Also, oftentimes I open programs, they appear in the taskbar as if they're loading, but they never do load, and eventually disappear from the taskbar.  Ideas on why?
[03:15] <avcib> jehnx: Also you can add applications to be excluded from sessions, you can add amarok there
[03:15] <jehnx> avcib: All right.  It seems that when it opens it always wants a root password, too, as do a few other programs I open up, for some reason.
[03:16] <sensei> jehnx: It's because they sometimes need to update root owned files
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> im having the same problem
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> i right clicked a file and went edit as root
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> after like 2mins nothing has came up so i do it again
[03:16] <jehnx> Exactly, tommy2k4.
[03:16] <Tommy2k4> this time the kdesu box comes up so i type pw in and now after 2 mins kate still hasnt opened
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> finally it opened
[03:17] <Tommy2k4> in kwrite instead of kate o_O
[03:18] <vem0m> yea kwrite is sometimes more stable with root as user kate has issues :)
[03:18] <Tommy2k4> ah
[03:18] <jehnx> Anyone know why my sound would be very ... delayed?
[03:18] <avcib> Tommy2k4: might be some problem with kdesu... try typing "kdesu kate path/to/file" from konsole and see what error it gives if any..
[03:18] <jehnx> Like, if an error pops up, it's a good half second to a second before I hear anything.  On another box, it comes up automatically with a sound.
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> avcib, its prolly cos my comp is going amazingly slow for some reason
[03:19] <vem0m> drivers check them or reinstall or initialize them
[03:19] <sensei> jehnx: artsd is a known pile of crap.. at least traditionally, don't know about later versions though
[03:19] <vem0m> reboot
[03:19] <Tommy2k4> ima try ctrl alt escape
[03:19] <vem0m> if that doesn't fix it then PANIC!
[03:19] <sensei> vem0m: First thing to check is always sound daemons
[03:19] <sysbob> so how do i find the package name for XML::Parser perl ?
[03:19] <vem0m> true :P
[03:20] <jehnx> I went into sound config, screwed with it a bit, etc.  I don't have any actual direct drivers for this onboard sound, though, unfortunately.
[03:20] <sensei> sysbob: libxml-parser-perl
[03:20] <vem0m> heh
[03:20] <sysbob> ty ... how could i have found that name for myself so i wouldn't have had to ask?
[03:21] <jehnx> Thanks for you guys' help.  I'm out now.  :)  later
[03:21] <sensei> sysbob: Good question, I like that attitude, unfortunately I cant tell you relly.. I 'just knew'
[03:21] <sensei> Later jehnx
[03:21] <sysbob> :(
[03:21] <murilo> Boa Noite.
[03:22] <sysbob> configure: error: Test for GLIB failed.
[03:22] <sensei> What's the line under it?
[03:23] <sensei> If any
[03:23] <sysbob> configure: error: Test for GLIB failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.
[03:23] <sysbob> that's all there is
[03:23] <sysbob> it's the last line
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> ive edited php.ini, how do i restart the php/mysql/apache server
[03:23] <Tommy2k4> or would ctrl alt backspace do that automatically
[03:23] <sensei> sysbob: Hm, there should be a few lines above it
[03:24] <sensei> Tommy2k4: No.. /etc/init.d/httpd restart
[03:24] <sensei> or apache or whatever it may be called
[03:24] <sysbob> checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.5... no
[03:24] <Tommy2k4> bash: /etc/init.d/httpd: No such file or directory
[03:25] <sensei> Tommy2k4: "or whatever it may be called"
[03:25] <Tommy2k4> o sry
[03:25] <sysbob> what is GLIB?
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> hm mysql still not working
[03:26] <Tommy2k4> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 4
[03:26] <sysbob> Perl wrappers for the GLib utility and Object libraries
[03:27] <sensei> sysbob: What does config.log say about glib ?
[03:28] <sensei> And just out of curiosity, what's the differnce between gimp and gimpshop ?
[03:28] <sysbob> conftest.c:49:18: error: glib.h: No such file or directory
[03:28] <sensei> Ok, install libglib2.0-dev
[03:28] <sysbob> configure:24296: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.5
[03:28] <sensei> -dev means -development, and contains header files (.h)
[03:28] <sysbob> result no
[03:29] <sensei> Those are needed for compiling stuff, while the libglib2.0 package provides the runtime libraries alone which the binaries are linked to
[03:29] <sysbob> libglib-perl in my package manager is a lower version than that
[03:29] <sensei> perl ?
[03:30] <sensei> 21:28:41 < sensei> Ok, install libglib2.0-dev
[03:30] <sysbob> okay ... thanks ... so my question is still how would i know all this stuff?
[03:31] <sensei> If you pay close attention to what people (like me and others who help) say, and actually reflect upon it, you'll learn
[03:31] <sensei> And also, googling and trying (and failing) for yourself is a good way to learn
[03:31] <sysbob> because someone had said there were 100000 guides to this, and i can't even get the package names reuired to build down
[03:32] <sensei> Actually, that was me
[03:32] <sysbob> oh
[03:32] <sensei> But then I got bored and figured, what the heck, I'll cut him some slack
[03:32] <sysbob> well thanks for helping me :)
[03:32] <sysbob> now i need gtk+
[03:33] <sensei> Now, based on what we did with glib.. what do you suggest we install? :)
[03:33] <sysbob> would that be the actual libs of the dev stuff?
[03:33] <sysbob> of = or
[03:33] <mitul> hi I am almost a noob. would this be the right channel to ask some basic question
[03:34] <sysbob> i don't know the package name ...or how to find it
[03:34] <sensei> sysbob: apt-cache search libgtk
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 4
[03:34] <sensei> And since we compile, we need .h files.. and .h files are found in -dev packages
[03:34] <Tommy2k4> why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine
[03:35] <sensei> Tommy2k4: Maybe phpmyadmin doesn't use mysql_connect() o.O
[03:35] <sysbob> oh geeez ...that gave me back 4 screens of results
[03:35] <sensei> sysbob: Then you pipe that output to your favourite 'pager'.. I suggest less
[03:35] <Tommy2k4> unlikely lol
[03:35] <sensei> As in apt-cache search libgtk | less
[03:35] <sysbob> like } more
[03:36] <sysbob> or | more
[03:36] <sensei> Yeah, or |more
[03:36] <sysbob> still, how do i pick out which packages out of that list to install?
[03:36] <sensei> What's the error message?
[03:37] <sensei> What version does it need, more exactly
[03:37] <sysbob> conftest.c:51:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[03:37] <sysbob> configure:24296: checking for GLIB - version >= 2.4.5
[03:37] <sensei> The output of the configure script
[03:37] <sysbob> oops
[03:38] <sysbob> checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.4.4... no
[03:38] <sysbob> there
[03:38] <sensei> Okay, so version 2 of libgtk
[03:38] <sysbob> libgtk2.0-dev then?
[03:39] <sensei> Yaay
[03:39] <leppards> where is the config file for the screensavers module
[03:40] <sysbob> that breaks things
[03:40] <sensei> Breaks what? :O
[03:40] <sysbob> The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.10.0-2) but it is not goi...
[03:40] <sysbob> Depends: libcairo2-dev but it is not go
[03:41] <sensei> Oh joy, now I'm starting to get lost.. I'm not all that familiar with apt actually
[03:41] <sensei> It won't give you the option to install anyways?
[03:41] <sensei> Or does it say why it won't install them?
[03:43] <sensei> Gah, I only have 29% battery left
[03:44] <Tommy2k4> ffs still cant get mysql working
[03:44] <sysbob> no
[03:44] <sysbob> let me try snyaptic
[03:44] <sysbob> it says Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable ..
[03:44] <sysbob> E: Broken packages
[03:44] <sysbob> and gives no options
[03:44] <sensei> :/ apt weirdness.. I just tried on my system, works here
[03:45] <sensei> But you never answered my question, you owe me that :) What's the difference between gimp and gimpshop ?
[03:46] <Hawkwind> gimpshop is for more video stuff isn't it ?
[03:46] <sensei> Ah ok
[03:46] <CheeseBurgerMan> No, it's a hacked version of gimp made to look like photoshop.
[03:46] <roadrunner> and it sucks =D
[03:46] <roadrunner> Regular GIMP is better (Or regular photoshop)
[03:47] <Hawkwind> Ahhh, I was thinking gimpshop is what used to be called filmgimp
[03:47] <sysbob> Depends: libpango1.0-dev but it is not going to be installed
[03:47] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hawkwind: That's now Cinepaint. ;)
[03:48] <Hawkwind> CheeseBurgerMan: That's it.  I get confused in my old age :P
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> lol
[03:48] <sysbob> impshop is gimp skinned into the photoshop interface
[03:48] <roadrunner> Yeah, but like I said, regular Gimp is definately better
[03:48] <roadrunner> or Regular photoshop
[03:48] <sysbob> so it's photoshop for linux
[03:48] <CheeseBurgerMan> To be honest, I found GimpShop weirder than regular Gimp.
[03:49] <roadrunner> I use Photoshop CS2 all the time on my windows machine and it is great. Gimp is also great and feature filled, but gimpshop just seemed to ruin it for me
[03:49] <CheeseBurgerMan> I use Gimp on Win & Kubuntu :P
[03:49] <roadrunner> They both have extremely high learning curves, pick one and stick with it. I honestly think Gimp is a great contender for photoshop.
[03:49] <roadrunner> Me too Cheeseburger. I am brand new to Kubuntu, I always used Gimp on XP
[03:50] <roadrunner> I am an A+ certified guy, lol, I always used windows. But I discovered I was using more and more open source stuff, so why not go all out? Overall I think Photoshop CS2 does indeed beat out the Gimp, but it is very very close
[03:50] <sysbob> sensi: thanks for the help :)
[03:50] <sensei> Okay, I'm sorry, but as I said, I'm no apt-ninja.. and this is package manager hell! What you could do is install libgtk manually from source.. or find someone who knows his way around apt to sort that out for you.. I gotta save some battery as I'm on my way to a huge presentation in a minute or two
[03:50] <sensei> sysbob: I won't say 'any time'.. but no prolem ;)
[03:50] <sensei> Laters
[03:51] <sysbob> cya
[03:52] <roadrunner> Hey, I have a, hopefully, simple question pertaining to music
[03:52] <OOD> alright
[03:53] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hopefully you ask it soon so it can be answered. :P
[03:53] <roadrunner> I just switched to Linux as I said, and I connected my Ipod and opened Amarok. I basically just want to copy all of my music off of my Ipod and burn it to my library in Amarok
[03:53] <roadrunner> I was just going to copy/paste it from my opod but then they have sensless crappy filenames and are in no way organized
[03:54] <OOD> have you updated amarok to 1.4 ?
[03:54] <roadrunner> Um... I guess not
[03:54] <roadrunner> I have whatever came with Kubuntu... the newest version
[03:54] <roadrunner> lemme check my Amarok version
[03:54] <CheeseBurgerMan> I *think* that's 1.3.9
[03:54] <OOD> that might help, i think there's better support for ipods
[03:54] <roadrunner> 1.3.9, you are correct
[03:55] <roadrunner> can I update within Amarok, or how should I update it?
[03:55] <CheeseBurgerMan> !amarok
[03:55] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4, and packages are available for Ubuntu at: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[03:55] <OOD> here: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.php
[03:56] <OOD> then just fetch updates and upgrade
[03:56] <OOD> damm i got beaten to it :P
[03:56] <roadrunner> erm... how? lol
[03:56] <CheeseBurgerMan> hehe
[03:56] <roadrunner> Im looking at it now
[03:56] <roadrunner> I am a complete linux nub =D
[03:56] <OOD> run those 2 lines in konsole
[03:57] <OOD> then go to adept and add that third line to the repository
[03:57] <roadrunner> see, that's weird to switch to, lol
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> roadrunner: add one of the repos to /etc/apt/sources.list then run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[03:57] <roadrunner> Windows, you download everything and run the installer...
[03:57] <OOD> yea
[03:57] <roadrunner> its kinda weird to learn to do everything with the prompt =D
[03:57] <roadrunner> I like it... I like prompts... It's just I have to learn all over again >_<
[03:57] <CheeseBurgerMan> You don't have to, it's just easier to explain. :P
[03:57] <OOD> yea i felt the same way
[03:59] <roadrunner> ok, I ran the first command it downloaded something without a problem
[03:59] <roadrunner> then I ran the second line and got this
[03:59] <roadrunner> roadrunner@roadrunner-desktop:~$ deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-14 dapper main
[03:59] <roadrunner> bash: deb: command not found
[03:59] <CheeseBurgerMan> Uh, you add that line to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:59] <OOD> yea, the 1 line you wrote is actually 2
[04:00] <roadrunner> oh, lol
[04:00] <roadrunner> I copy/paste...  my bad =D
[04:00] <roadrunner> so writing the other line in etc/apt/sources.list is essentially the same as going into the Adept manager, going to mange repositories, and then adding that URL to the server list, right?
[04:01] <OOD> yes
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yep
[04:01] <roadrunner> ok, cool... So I could have done this within the gui... I am slowly catching on ^_^
[04:01] <OOD> adept is basically a GUI for apt-get
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Just more universal to debian based distros, and easier for me to explain. :)
[04:01] <roadrunner> I never really understood that...
[04:01] <CheeseBurgerMan> Understood what?
[04:02] <roadrunner> the principal behind typing apt-get install nameofsomething
[04:02] <Muki-DA> Anyone know where I can find the ffmpeg plugin for k3b?
[04:02] <roadrunner> what is apt-get? Just something that lets you download packages?
[04:02] <zblach> roadrunner: download & install
[04:02] <Hobbsee> !apt-get
[04:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto - also see !synaptic (gnome) or !adept (kde)
[04:02] <CheeseBurgerMan> roadrunner: It automagically installs a package and it's dependancies.
[04:02] <OOD> yesh, and Adept is just a GUI for it
[04:02] <OOD> automagically, lol
[04:02] <zblach> and Synaptic is a better GUI for it ;)
[04:02] <roadrunner> Alright. I figured out how to use the GUI, but I am one that wants to know how to do it myself =D
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> :D
[04:03] <OOD> i hate Synaptic
[04:03] <vem0m> i use apt-get or adept
[04:03] <OOD> but that's just me ;P
[04:03] <roadrunner> apt-get just means to download it... then install says to install whatever you just download. Then the filename is the package you want to download or install, right?
[04:03] <CheeseBurgerMan> I never bother using Adept/Synpatic. They're both fine, but Yakuake makes using apt-get more convenient.
[04:03] <zblach> Yakuake?
[04:03] <OOD> roadrunner: no apt-get is the program name
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> Yeah, it's a quake style console.
[04:04] <roadrunner> ... so you use the first command, apt-get to tell it that's the program you are using... then install filename simply tells it which file you want to install?
[04:04] <CheeseBurgerMan> It scrolls down from the top of your screen, and you can type in your commands as you would in any other terminal. (konsole for example)
[04:04] <Muki-DA> apt-getting it now =3
[04:04] <roadrunner> and it just browses the repositories you have added in the source.list file?
[04:04] <vem0m> just use terminal and apt-get then lmao
[04:04] <OOD> roadrunner: ues basically
[04:05] <OOD> whatever you can do in Adept, you can do with apt-get in the command line
[04:05] <TheHighChild> anyone using psi?
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> What's PSI?
[04:06] <CheeseBurgerMan> (that would be a 'no' from me)
[04:07] <TheHighChild> CheeseBurgerMan: It's an Instant Messenger
[04:07] <CheeseBurgerMan> Oh
[04:07] <vem0m> i use gaim
[04:07] <vem0m> :P
[04:07] <roadrunner> ok, so anyways, I added that to the sources.list file, now what do I do to install it?
[04:07] <lucas> i can't access my floppy drive in konqueror
[04:08] <CheeseBurgerMan> roadrunner: 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:08] <OOD> or just press the fetch updated button in adept ;)
[04:08] <kenny> !qt
[04:09] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[04:09] <kenny> i should really memorize that package name lol..
[04:09] <zblach> lib cutie three empty dev
[04:10] <OOD> *tries cs2 in wine* let's see how this goes
[04:10] <roadrunner> um... when I hit fatch updates, it went through the updates, then all of my packages dissapeard
[04:10] <roadrunner> now there aren't any packages showing in adept
[04:10] <OOD> adept's a little buggy
[04:10] <TheHighChild> OOD: let me know. I've heard lots of good things
[04:10] <OOD>  restart it
[04:10] <roadrunner> ok
[04:10] <kenny> kde headers = ?
[04:11] <OOD> kenny: it's kde-devel or something like that
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> !headers
[04:11] <ubotu> To install the Linux (kernel) headers, open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) To install headers for libraries, you need the accompanying -dev packages
[04:11] <CheeseBurgerMan> !kdeheaders
[04:11] <lucas> !mp3
[04:11] <ubotu> I know nothing about kdeheaders
[04:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:12] <kenny> OOD: found it it's kdebase-dev just had to see it to remember
[04:12] <SystematicDub> hey all, ok I have a dumb question.  For the DVD kubuntu cds can you have a disk drive and play them or do you need a dvd drive?  Oh, or is it called DVD kubuntu because it's larger so it needs a DVD-RW too work?
[04:13] <OOD> dvd's can only be read in dvd drives
[04:13] <CheeseBurgerMan> The DVD version of Kubuntu you need to have a DVD drive. If you don't, get a CD version.
[04:13] <roadrunner> rofl
[04:13] <cpk1> SystematicDub: are you answering your question inside your question? either they are CD's or DVD's
[04:13] <cpk1> SystematicDub: if its a dvd you need a dvd drive
[04:13] <cpk1> if its a cd you can have either
[04:14] <lucas> hey i cant hear anything when i play it in amarok
[04:14] <driz> !offtopic
[04:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:18] <CheeseBurgerMan> ubotu: tell lucas about restrictedformats
[04:18] <roadrunner> ok... now, I have 1.4... how do I rip all my music from my Ipod?
[04:19] <kakalto> woo!
[04:19] <kakalto> ^-^
[04:19] <roadrunner> I can play it on my computer... but I want to add it to my library and stuff seperated by Artist/Album... just like WMP used to do
[04:19] <kakalto> japanese input is great
[04:19] <kakalto> =))
[04:19] <OOD> roadrunner: go to options and autodetect media device
[04:19] <OOD> roadrunner: i'm just guessing here since i don't have an iPod ;)
[04:20] <SystematicDub> ok I meant (and yes that first question was answered in a question :-) ) that I would need a dvd-rw if I were to download a kubuntu dvd.
[04:20] <roadrunner> oh, it detected it and everything
[04:20] <SystematicDub> hehe sorry I'm so confusing
[04:21] <roadrunner> and it is listed in my "collection"
[04:21] <roadrunner> but the music is still residing on my Ipod, not my harddrive
[04:21] <roadrunner> I want to copy it somewhere on my harddrive... but Im not seeing any way to do that
[04:21] <roadrunner> Amarok automatically detected the Ipod, so that wasn't a problem... I just don't have any way of getting music off of it
[04:25] <roadrunner> does anyone here use an Ipod with linux?
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> !ipod
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> maybe
[04:26] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[04:26] <CheeseBurgerMan> Hmm, maybe that?
[04:27] <roadrunner> Ill look at it... it seems like that is for adding music... I want to rip my music FROM the ipod TO my pc
[04:28] <CheeseBurgerMan> I know, but it _may_work backwards.
[04:28] <roadrunner> well, sorta... I ripped music to it, but the ipod renames the file names and places them all in one folder
[04:28] <bur[n] er> roadrunner: ever use "yamipod" ?
[04:28] <roadrunner> I want a way to rip them from the media player, that way they will be organized with the Artist/Album/TrackName
[04:28] <OOD> ill be back soon, gonna reboot into xp (whoah haven't done that in ages :P)
[04:29] <OOD> eh?
[04:29] <roadrunner> He doesn't think rebooting into windows is a wise idea =D
[04:29] <bur[n] er> just teasin OOD ;)
[04:29] <roadrunner> lol... because windows sucks
[04:29] <OOD> yesh i see :P
[04:29] <OOD> cs2 refuses to install in wine, so gonna install it in windows and see how it runs in wine :P
[04:30] <roadrunner> lol... I love CS2
[04:30] <roadrunner> that is the only thing I am going to miss about my Windows installation
[04:30] <bur[n] er> silly gamers ;)
[04:30] <roadrunner> (I removed it completely)
[04:30] <zblach> lol
[04:30] <roadrunner> CS2? I thought he was referring to Photoshop CS2
[04:30] <roadrunner> not a video game...
[04:30] <zblach> cs
[04:30] <bur[n] er> aww... I meant to ask ood if he has the latest wine
[04:30] <bur[n] er> oh well
[04:31] <roadrunner> he said he would be back
[04:41] <nxv_> hi
[04:42] <arcturus> has anyone used Istabul?
[04:42] <nxv_> how can i easily encode a video from my digicam? my camera takes small avis. I like to encode them with divx. in windows moviemaker does this. how to do it in linux?
[04:43] <arcturus> oops, that's Istanbul
[04:44] <zblach> i can't even get my webcam working in linux
[04:44] <zblach> ood. you weren'tgone long. enough for only one crash
[04:45] <bimberi> !webcam
[04:45] <OOD> lol, i'm still in windows
[04:45] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:45] <OOD> gonan reboot now :D
[04:45] <Kingbuzzo> !zaurus
[04:45] <ubotu> I know nothing about zaurus
[04:46] <hareem> can some one tell me how to time a session
[04:47] <hareem> ideally setup for internet cafe
[04:47] <bimberi> !info kivio
[04:47] <ubotu> kivio: a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite. In repository main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0-0ubuntu9 (dapper), package size 526 kB, installed size 1752 kB
[04:47] <bimberi> note - that wasn't related to any recent question in the channel :)
[04:48] <hareem> does any one know how to setup kubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:52] <zblach> !webcam
[04:52] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:55] <OOD> no luck so far :(
[04:56] <hareem> does any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[04:57] <OOD> ubuntu autodetects dhcp if that's what you mean
[05:02] <zblach> !webcam
[05:02] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:03] <driz> hey people Ukupacha is a windows user can anyone show him the way cause i tried and nothing
[05:03] <driz> please help
[05:04] <Ukupacha> hey! how are you so sure that the way isn't windows?
[05:04] <driz> no flaming remember man
[05:09] <TheHighChild> anyone using PSI?
[05:11] <hareem> does any one know how to setup kubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment
[05:34] <ubuntu_> what are your thoughts? kubuntu 6.06 or suse 10.1?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> Asking that in #Kubuntu  surely no one is going to say SuSe.  Go ask that elsewhere
[05:35] <danielfaria> the point is not which one will people say
[05:36] <danielfaria> but their arguments for saying that
[05:36] <danielfaria> im new to linux
[05:36] <danielfaria> and im trying both
[05:36] <OOD> suse takes 5 times as long to download
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Because most everyone in here runs Kubuntu and not SuSe.  It's not rocket science
[05:36] <Hawkwind> Then try both and decide what best suits YOU
[05:37] <danielfaria> i know very little about linux
[05:37] <danielfaria> i dont know what is better, they both look the same
[05:37] <Hawkwind> Like I said, try them both and see what works best for YOU.  Only you can decide that
[05:37] <danielfaria> OOD: i already downloaded them, so this is not an issue anymore lol
[05:38] <danielfaria> i know that, i said i dont have the minimum kknowledge to see what is different among them
[05:39] <OOD> you'd be able to tell from trying them both
[05:39] <Hawkwind> You'll see the differences as you use them
[05:39] <OOD> yea
[05:39] <elknof1> hey   hi everybody, does anyone knows what is difussion gate??  on net preferences...
[06:10] <eqisow> Does anybody know when amaroK 1.4.1 will be added to the Kubuntu.org repositories?
[06:10] <driz> dont know sorry
[06:11] <navid> I installed ubuntu but then changed my mind and installed the kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu thoroughly. Now I can't have kdm as my display manager and every time I boot the computer it reaches runlevel 4 and then I have to type " startx ". Any way to set KDM as my display manager?
[06:12] <driz> i'm the only one awake here i think and i dont know what your talking about sorry
[06:13] <eqisow> I'm afraid I'm not sure either, although I'm certain it's possible
[06:14] <navid> Thanks anyway
[06:14] <driz> come back in the morning
[06:15] <eqisow> btw, I've compiled a .deb for amarok 1.4.1 on my Dapper system if anybody is feeling brave. it includes support for last.fm radio streams. :)
[06:16] <OOD> i might, but i'd need to download the kde header files and they take up a lot of space
[06:33] <unix_infidel> hey guys for some reason the openbox.deb didnt create any config files for me not even the defaults.
[06:36] <matt___> !win32codecs
[06:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about win32codecs
[06:41] <hey560> hi, has anyone made amarok 1.4.1 package yet?
[06:41] <eqisow> I have, but I've only tested it on my system
[06:42] <eqisow> I posted it on the amaroK wiki, if you want to give it a whirl and let me know how it goes
[06:42] <hey560> whats the link?
[06:42] <eqisow> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Amarok
[06:43] <hey560> thanks,
[06:43] <eqisow> yw
[06:44] <hey560> if i wanted to build the package myself how would i debianize the source package?
[06:45] <eqisow> do you know how to compile stuff normally?
[06:46] <eqisow> if so, when you get to the make install step, use 'sudo checkinstall -D make install' instead
[06:46] <eqisow> you'll need to install checkinstall, of course
[06:47] <nemo_> Anyone know if I can get a driver to work woth the lexmark x2470? lexmark doesn't have any linux drivers for this model
[06:47] <hey560> yes i know how to compile
[06:47] <hey560> so just that command eh
[06:47] <eqisow> that's it
[06:48] <eqisow> it will create the deb in the source directory
[06:48] <hey560> awsome thanks, i'll give it a shot!
[06:48] <eqisow> gl
[06:48] <eqisow> nemo_, search linuxprinting.org for your printer
[06:48] <eqisow> they have a fairly comprehensive database
[06:48] <nemo_> ok will do thank you
[06:49] <antrax> who have a cd key of vmware workstations 5.5.1
[06:49] <eqisow> and for future reference, HP is the way to go. :)
[06:49] <nemo_> do they have all in ones that work in linux?
[06:50] <antrax> i need install the simulator exam CCNA and router simulator
[06:51] <hey560> do i need to dpkg remove the old amarok?
[06:51] <eqisow> yeah, you'll need to remove the old amarok first
[06:52] <eqisow> nemo, do you mean HP? If so, yes, they have the best Linux support
[06:52] <nemo_> cool, Then maybe I'll just sell this one and go buy an HP
[06:55] <Fiya_werkin> what's it mean when kaffeine gives no plugin found for this source dvd:/
[06:56] <CaptainMorgan> I can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas?
[06:57] <Muki-DA> WhereTF is kaudioripper ripping TO?
[06:58] <eqisow> Muki-DA, wherever you tell it to. Check the configuration
[06:59] <Muki-DA> Under "Ripper", all I saw was the location for the temporary directory
[06:59] <Muki-DA> There's also nothing under "Encoder"
[06:59] <eqisow> look under Encoder :)
[06:59] <eqisow> middle section "Encoded File Location"
[07:00] <Muki-DA> THERE we go =3
[07:00] <eqisow> CaptainMorgan, I would suggest using Automatix to install multimedia codecs for you
[07:01] <CaptainMorgan> no familar with that program...?
[07:01] <Muki-DA> If I don't set a temp location, will it just write the file in realtime, or will it make a temp file in some pre-specified location?
[07:01] <eqisow> if that doesn't work, try VLC or MPlayer, they'll play pretty much everything
[07:01] <eqisow> I'm not 100% on that Muki
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan>  eqisow adepts desc on VLC - "for all audio and video formats" :)
[07:03] <CaptainMorgan> oops... eqisow - VLC does the same thing - sound but no display.......
[07:05] <hey560> darn, no FLAC support in amarok 1.4.1
[07:05] <hey560> or i might've compiled it wrong
[07:05] <CaptainMorgan> eqisow: Mplayer does the same thing.... wtf?
[07:05] <OOD> yea i read something about needed some extra.. something for flac
[07:06] <eqisow> Captain, give this a shot
[07:06] <eqisow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190025
[07:07] <eqisow> when you run it, select to install multimedia codecs and the non-free audio and dvd codecs,
[07:10] <CaptainMorgan> eqisow: says something about not using that version if you're running Kubuntu
[07:13] <eqisow> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=203294
[07:13] <eqisow> sorry Captain, wrong thread
[07:15] <Zaire> ok just out of curiosity Cedega is under the same GPL and GNU and other linux software right
[07:15] <eqisow> umm, sort of
[07:15] <eqisow> Cedega is GPL, since it's derived from Wine it pretty much has to be
[07:15] <eqisow> but the Point2Play GUI is not
[07:16] <Zaire> well if thats the case then they can't legally charge you money without having a free version then
[07:16] <hey560> cedega is not GPL is it?
[07:16] <hey560> i thought the Cedega guys got the wine code when it was under freeBSD
[07:16] <Zaire> its a part of the wine corp so Im guess yes
[07:16] <eqisow> it is, the source of Cedega is available
[07:16] <eqisow> however, it doesn't include things like support for copy protected CD's
[07:16] <eqisow> since that stuff requires licensing fees
[07:17] <hey560> the code is freely available
[07:17] <hey560> but its not GPL
[07:17] <Zaire> source isnt of much use if you don't know how to use it and they kinda scatter the files around to make it more difficult to get
[07:17] <sja> GPL software is free as in speech, not as in beer -- perfectly legal to charge for open source software
[07:17] <hey560> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cedega
[07:18] <eqisow> ah, good catch hey560
[07:18] <eqisow> wasn't aware of that
[07:18] <Zaire> its only legal to charge for the software if you make a copy availabe like I said
[07:18] <sja> You can always charge ... just like Suse and Red Hat do (boxed versions) ...
[07:18] <Zaire> I mean even the base min a demo which they got rid of that I guess
[07:19] <sja> the only caveat is that you must make the source available upon request ...
[07:19] <Zaire> ya but you can get suse and redhat precompiled to
[07:19] <sja> many open source products are commercial
[07:19] <hey560> ya i was shocked when i read that cedega isn't GPL
[07:19] <hey560> its so cheap of them
[07:19] <eqisow> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193814&highlight=cvscedega
[07:19] <eqisow> in case anybody is interested in compiling cedega from cvs
[07:19] <Zaire> yea makes me very angry
[07:20] <hey560> i tried through CVS, and got fed up, so i bought it
[07:20] <hey560> lol
[07:20] <hey560> 5 dollars only
[07:20] <Zaire> I don't want to have to renew it all the time though
[07:20] <eqisow> you don't have to, unless you want a new version :/
[07:20] <Zaire> exactly thats kinda the prob
[07:21] <eqisow> Try Wine first though, it runs a surprising ammount of games now
[07:21] <eqisow> it even runs some much better than Cedega
[07:21] <Zaire> would is run BF2 or halflife 2 and 1
[07:21] <Zaire> it*
[07:21] <eqisow> I know it runs hl1 very well
[07:22] <eqisow> I've heard mixed results with hl2
[07:22] <eqisow> and I'm pretty sure BF2 is a no go
[07:22] <eqisow> check http://appdb.winehq.org though
[07:22] <eqisow> but, fyi, HF2 runs very slow even with Cedega
[07:23] <OOD> Wine's gonna put Cedega out of bussiness soon :D
[07:23] <eqisow> it's barely playable on my 6800
[07:23] <Zaire> well it has to be able to play BF2 for sure cause thats one of the games I play a lan parties
[07:23] <jewels9321> OOD: got a question....i am trying to run myst in wine and i got quicktime from adept. but now it is saying that i need to run quicktime in windows and it is not detecting that i already installed it..... i need get titanic game running but i think there was a bug in the game....would you know what i should do with this quicktime thing?
[07:23] <eqisow> about 30 FPSish an 1024 res and lowish settings
[07:23] <Zaire> I would like to know what happened to project David
[07:23] <jewels9321> i did get the titanic game running..... that is what i meant
[07:24] <OOD> jewels9321: the problem is you got linux quicktime, and linux and windows programs can't be mixed like that, you have to get quick time for windows
[07:24] <Zaire> transgaming sux
[07:24] <OOD> jewels9321: and install it with wine
[07:25] <jewels9321> OOD: okay... sounds good....
[07:26] <Zaire> eqisow: check the link http://winecvs.linux-gamers.net/WineCVS/
[07:26] <jewels9321> OOD: wine keeps on crashing when I try the games.....are you a wine developer?;)
[07:26] <eqisow> Zaire: access forbidden? oO
[07:26] <MistaED> eqisow: i found when setting up the vertex vram setting and other options that my framerate went up and was able to run at full DX8-level graphics with my 6800GT at a playable framerate
[07:26] <Zaire> yea
[07:26] <Zaire> wth is with that
[07:27] <MistaED> granted it's about double the framerate with DX9 under windows though
[07:27] <OOD> jewels9321: me? never :P coding isn't my thing
[07:27] <eqisow> shrug
[07:27] <MistaED> it's fine for when you just want to play multiplayer and not want to boot into windows
[07:27] <eqisow> MistaED, thanks. I'll try that
[07:28] <OOD> d3d support is still iffy in wine, it'll get better though
[07:28] <Zaire> what is the big difficulty in getting a program to integrate the exe compat with linux damn its frustrating
[07:28] <jewels9321> OOD: is your real name Ouch of death on kubuntu forums
[07:29] <OOD> jewels9321: yes, that'd be me :D
[07:29] <jewels9321> OOD: I knew it.... xeno and i thought so
[07:29] <eqisow> Zaire, it's much more than that. The main issue is implementing the DX API and translating Direct 3D system calls into OpenGL
[07:30] <jewels9321> OOD: I've finally got the hang of working these games in wine, but i keep on having problems still but i have the concepts right
[07:30] <Zaire> I hopes it makes big advances soon cause I don't wanna have ta use winblows at the next lan but may not have to anyway may be getting mac OS x86 for that lol
[07:31] <OOD> mac0S? even worse :D
[07:31] <OOD> you won't even have 3d accelaration :P
[07:31] <Zaire> X86 may be slightly better dunno
[07:31] <Zaire> yea you can if you have an ATI card
[07:31] <OOD> nah, hardware compatiblity would kill you, if you have an nvidia you get no 3d accel
[07:31] <jewels9321> OOD: Is there anyway that you think you could get the dependencies working on the kq4 thing again sometime for me?
[07:32] <Zaire> gonna build a new system before the lan with and ati X1900 crossfire
[07:32] <eqisow> ATI :/
[07:32] <Zaire> ATI has drivers for mac
[07:32] <eqisow> ah, I thought you meant for a Linux system
[07:33] <OOD> jewels9321: yea sure
[07:33] <Jack1> guys can u help me ?
[07:33] <eqisow> we'll try Jack, what's up?
[07:33] <Zaire> nah this is my linux system my other is gonna be mac cause pretty much anything is better then winblows
[07:33] <LionRock> hi
[07:33] <jewels9321> OOD: cool, whenever you're ready to do it for me let me know....
[07:35] <Jack1> firestarter says to me (network) that it has as devces eth0 (ethernet), ppp0 (internet), sit0 (IPv6 Tunnel) so i wonder if i have three active internet connections?
[07:35] <eqisow> no
[07:35] <Jack1> eth0 and ppp0 have the same activity in kb/s
[07:35] <Jack1> ?
[07:35] <eqisow> pp0 is the modem
[07:35] <Jack1> is this allright?
[07:35] <eqisow> ppp0*
[07:36] <Jack1> episow i mean its ok as it is?
[07:36] <Jack1> eqisow i mean
[07:36] <eqisow> seems fine to me :)
[07:40] <OOD> jewels9321: another time, i gotta go
[07:40] <CaptainMorgan> nothing works eqisow
[07:40] <CaptainMorgan> I got every player know installed it seems
[07:40] <CaptainMorgan> known
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> ALL producing sound with no display
[07:41] <eqisow> hmm, where is this file from?
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> regular .mpg
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> tried more than one .mpg as well
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> won't play a single .mpg
[07:41] <CaptainMorgan> err.. won't display a single .smpg
[07:42] <eqisow> hmm..
[07:42] <Zaire> try this apt-get install vlc
[07:42] <eqisow> are you running XGL by chance?
[07:42] <Zaire> vlc will play nearly everything
[07:42] <CaptainMorgan> Zaire: already have VLC installed and it does the same thing
[07:42] <Zaire> damn
[07:42] <Zaire> not much it won
[07:42] <Zaire> won't*
[07:43] <CaptainMorgan> gotta be a codecs issue... yet Kaffeine played .mpg's before... and I have the necessary codecs.. I dunno
[07:43] <jbrouhard> Hrm
[07:43] <jbrouhard> damnit
[07:43] <jbrouhard> kftpgrabber crashed repeatedly on me
[07:43] <krinns> hi all
[07:44] <krinns> i want to do printer filtering
[07:44] <krinns> means i have 4 dept and am authenticating my user through ldap
[07:44] <krinns> now what i want is one dept user cant print from 2 dept printer
[07:47] <CaptainMorgan> this sux
[07:51] <krinns> helo
[07:51] <krinns> any one knows abt
[07:52] <morrow> you mean apt?
[08:01] <Countryboy> mm
[08:02] <|lostbyte|> GoodMorning :-OZzzzz..
[08:03] <Countryboy> anyone know how to copy all files in a dir from a cd to a place on my hd what would the command be?
[08:04] <nixternal> cp -r /media/cdrom/* /dir_you_want_to_copy_to
[08:04] <nixternal> or you can use konqueror
[08:04] <nixternal> right click-copy and paste
[08:04] <Countryboy> whats the star?
[08:04] <nixternal> that means everything
[08:04] <Countryboy> I know it means wild card but I mean that would copy all files from the cd-r to my hd, I mean with in a dir on the cd rom
[08:05] <nixternal> everything in the /media/cdrom/ directory
[08:05] <nixternal> yes sir
[08:05] <nixternal> and the -r will even copy directories over if they need to be
[08:05] <Countryboy> I need it from this /media/cdrom/backups
[08:05] <Chryseus> *sigh*
[08:05] <Chryseus> then you type that in :)
[08:06] <Countryboy> tried and it says ommiting the dir
[08:06] <nixternal> cd into the directory you want to copy everything to..then type
[08:06] <nixternal> cp -r /media/cdrom/backups/* .
[08:06] <nixternal> copy and paste that in your command line
[08:07] <Countryboy> kk
[08:08] <Countryboy> cd@cd-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$ cp -r /media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives
[08:08] <Countryboy> cp: missing destination file operand after `/media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives'
[08:08] <Countryboy> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[08:08] <Countryboy> cd@cd-desktop:/var/cache/apt/archives$
[08:08] <Countryboy> oops
[08:08] <Countryboy> sorry
[08:09] <Countryboy> meant for paste bin
[08:09] <Countryboy> but thats the error I get anyways
[08:09] <Chryseus> notice the . in the end?
[08:09] <nixternal> exactly
[08:09] <nixternal> you didn't specify a place to copy to..the    .   means paste it right here in the directory im in
[08:10] <Countryboy> the . or *
[08:10] <Chryseus> .
[08:10] <Countryboy> i don't see a dot
[08:10] <nixternal> hey Countryboy..are you copying to /var/cache/apt/archives?
[08:11] <nixternal> you need to do
[08:11] <Countryboy> yes nixternal
[08:11] <nixternal> sudo cp -r /media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives/* .
[08:11] <Countryboy> and im sorry im stoned and hurting.. Ususally it doesn't take me this long to catch on lol.
[08:11] <nixternal> haha
[08:11] <Chryseus> :)
[08:11] <nixternal> good times
[08:11] <Countryboy> lol
[08:11] <Countryboy> I don't think I could tie my own shoes right now lol
[08:12] <Countryboy> brb need a dip
[08:22] <Countryboy> ok back I got the munchies
[08:23] <unix_infidel> hey guys, is it possible to get two cursors going with two mice in KUbuntu?
[08:23] <unix_infidel> (i'm abidextrous :P)
[08:24] <unix_infidel> i'm assuming you just create a second xorg.conf section for Mouse2 linked to whatever /dev node udev creats?
[08:24] <Countryboy> nixternal: that last command u said didn't work
[08:24] <nixternal> you got another error?
[08:25] <Countryboy> cp: missing destination file operand after `/media/cdrom/var-cache-apt-archives/*.'
[08:25] <Countryboy> Try `cp --help' for more information.
[08:25] <nixternal> unix_infidel: i have no clue, never ever heard any thing like that in my life ;)
[08:25] <unix_infidel> nixternal: its not common :)
[08:25] <nixternal> ahh.
[08:25] <nixternal> Countryboy: put a space after * and before .
[08:26] <Countryboy> thx that did the trick
[08:26] <Countryboy> damn im dumb when I'm ^
[08:27] <nixternal> hehe
[08:27] <Countryboy> new to ubuntu, installed kubuntu about 10 min b4 I got on here.
[08:27] <nixternal> hehe
[08:27] <nixternal> welcome to the community Countryboy
[08:27] <Countryboy> I had to edit the kppp noauth crap just to be able to get on internet with dialup lol, ubuntu u didn't have 2
[08:28] <nixternal> glad to have another hillbilly around ;)
[08:28] <Countryboy> thx nixternal
[08:28] <nixternal> although i am a yankee, im a hillbilly at heart
[08:28] <Countryboy> :)
[08:28] <Countryboy> this turkey chilli taste nasty
[08:30] <Countryboy> so where ya from nixternal
[08:30] <nixternal> chicago
[08:30] <jbrouhard> aw, crap
[08:30] <jbrouhard> nixternal is not 6 hours from where I live.
[08:30] <nixternal> you know it
[08:30] <jbrouhard> Gives me another excuse to save up on airfare and go shoot him :)
[08:30] <Countryboy> scruff mc scruff here, chicago iL 62660, take a bite out of crime
[08:31] <Countryboy> not sure about zip lol
[08:31] <nixternal> not even close
[08:31] <Countryboy> but cool nixternal
[08:31] <Countryboy> TN here
[08:31] <nixternal> i might be moving to pidgen forge one of these days ;)
[08:31] <Countryboy> lol, ya been here?
[08:32] <nixternal> yup
[08:32] <Countryboy> cool
[08:32] <Countryboy> and ya like it?
[08:32] <Countryboy> well I know ya do, but I mean ya like it enough to move here and not some where else? lol why here
[08:32] <nixternal> it's ok..oh well..back to work...gl Countryboy and welcome to kubuntu
[08:33] <Countryboy> <can't type when im high either lol
[08:33] <Countryboy> thx bro
[08:33] <jbrouhard> TMI
[08:33] <Countryboy> take care
[08:33] <jbrouhard> i think this should be in #offtopic tho :)
[08:33] <nixternal> ;)
[08:33] <Countryboy> whats tmi mean?
[08:34] <Countryboy> to restart X in kde is it still ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:35] <Melchiorre> Countryboy: Too much infor
[08:35] <Melchiorre> *mation
[08:35] <Countryboy> I guess, so the restart X thing?
[08:35] <Melchiorre> yes
[08:35] <nixternal> ctrl + alt + backspace
[08:36] <nixternal> that is correct
[08:36] <Countryboy> roger
[08:36] <Countryboy> thx
[08:38] <Countryboy> Odd I added my back up files of var/cache/apt/archives files and nvidiaglx was one of them, but it says E: couldn't find packge ect ect.
[08:41] <Countryboy> whats this mean
[08:41] <Countryboy> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:41] <Countryboy> Package nvidia-glx is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:41] <Countryboy> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:41] <Countryboy> is only available from another source
[08:51] <Jack1>  is someone experienced with gimp? i just have a picture and want to insert a textline into it ...how to do?
[08:52] <_rince_> mrgn
[08:57] <defrysk> Jack1, click the T in the gimp toolbox , its the add text button
[08:59] <Jack1> defrysk yes, i saw that the prob is i cannot move the box with the where i want!
[09:02] <defrysk> Jack1, klick after klicking on the T in the toolbox the picture on the place whre you want to add txt it wil add the txt there then
[09:02] <Melchiorre> Jack1: use the 'move selection' tool (M) and click on the text to move it
[09:02] <defrysk> Melchiorre, thanks  
[09:02] <Melchiorre> np ;)
[09:05] <Jack1> Melchiorre defrysk thx guys it worked
[09:06] <Melchiorre> Jack1, cool!
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> Is it possible to have dif wallpapers on diff desktops ?
[09:07] <|lostbyte|> KDE !
[09:07] <Melchiorre> |lostbyte|: absolutely
[09:08] <Jack1> Melchiorre how can i go a step back? make a change unhappen?
[09:08] <Melchiorre> |lostbyte|: there's a dropdown box on the background config screen that lets you choose what desktop your configuring, or all
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> Melchiorre, how is that ?
[09:09] <Melchiorre> Jack1: Ctrl+Z should work
[09:09] <Zaire> well if it isnt lostbyte lol thanks for the suggestion on removing one of my ram chips lol that was the prob with my kubuntu crashing lol
[09:09] <|lostbyte|> Melchiorre, Ahh ! ok.. thanks.
[09:09] <Zaire> prob would have been beating my head against my keyboard after buying a new vidcard lol
[09:10] <Jack1> right Melchiorre file revert, both works i guess, thx
[09:10] <|lostbyte|> Melchiorre, Arg ! i am on xgl :(
[09:11] <Melchiorre> |lostbyte|: ahh, no idea then... sorry :(
[09:11] <Rede> ive installed apache2 via apt, and im wondering how i can get it to start automatically. also if i run the command "sudo apache2" it starts and works, but " sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" has the same output the server doesnt start, is this normal?
[09:11] <Zaire> now all I need is to figure out how to get Nvidia twinview to work lol
[09:11] <Melchiorre> Jack1: heh, true...
[09:11] <|lostbyte|> ok ..
[09:12] <Melchiorre> Rede: Apache should be configured to start at boot automatically...
[09:12] <Melchiorre> Rede: does it not start, or are you just checking that it does?
[09:12] <lowtech> !twinview > lowtech
[09:12] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview
[09:13] <Rede> if i install "apache" it does. if i install "apache2" it doesnt
[09:13] <Zaire> !twinview
[09:13] <Melchiorre> hmmm
[09:13] <ubotu> I know nothing about twinview
[09:13] <Zaire> nothing damn
[09:13] <Zaire> its tricky I know that much
[09:13] <Rede> im just using my browser to check by typing my ip
[09:13] <lowtech> !nvidia > lowtech
[09:14] <Healot> !find apache
[09:14] <ubotu> Found: apache2, apache2-common, apache2-doc, apache2-mpm-perchild, apache2-mpm-prefork (and 147 others)
[09:14] <Healot> !info apache2-common
[09:14] <ubotu> apache2-common: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 767 kB, installed size 3048 kB
[09:15] <Healot> !find twinview
[09:15] <ubotu> No packages matching 'twinview' could be found
[09:15] <Zaire> !nvidia
[09:15] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:15] <Zaire> ok thats drivers and no twinview wierd
[09:16] <sonic> Hi there, can anyone help me set up my system mail?
[09:16] <lowtech> Zaire: it must not be too dificult, Hawkwind had his going pretty quickly
[09:16] <Rede> just tried a "sudo ps x" after stopping apache2 (sudo apache2 -k stop) and executing "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" and apache2 is not a running process
[09:16] <nixternal> Zaire: if you search for twinview in either the ubuntuforums or the wiki, there are a couple of pages with twinview info
[09:16] <Rede> but if i type "sudo apache2" it is
[09:16] <SpAwN> happy 4th of july all(that celebrate it)
[09:16] <Zaire> yea I didn't have much luck after about 2 hours lastnight and 2 hours at noon today
[09:16] <Healot> sonic: which mail agent you're trying to install?
[09:17] <sonic> Healot: Not sure, the default one?
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> G'morning everyone
[09:17] <sonic> Healot: Whichever will let me get system mail
[09:17] <MilhousePunkRock> What's the best way to upgrade KTorrent to 2.0 for a noob like me?
[09:17] <Melchiorre> Rede: I've never had a problem with apache2 starting, and I'm not sure how to manually configure it to start... anyone else know...?
[09:18] <Zaire> nothing when I type twinview into the ubuntu wiki site
[09:18] <Healot> !find exim
[09:18] <ubotu> Found: exim4-doc-html, adduser-plugin-eximconf, adduser-plugin-eximconf4, exim, exim-doc (and 14 others)
[09:19] <Healot> !find postfix
[09:19] <ubotu> Found: bld-postfix, gforge-mta-postfix, postfix-gld, postfix-policyd, postfix-smtpguard (and 7 others)
[09:21] <Zaire> nothing on twinview what so ever on kubuntu or ubuntu wiki site search
[09:22] <Healot> Zaire: since it's an nvidia thing, how about nvidia's site?
[09:22] <Healot> ubuntuforum maybe?
[09:22] <nixternal> Zaire: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85769&highlight=twinview
[09:23] <sonic> Healot: was that postfix stuff for me?
[09:23] <nixternal> Zaire: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=6510981   <- this is the twinview search
[09:23] <Rede> also, the command executes but there is no resulting output. "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop" does work though
[09:24] <Zaire> k I look cause nvidia site has nothin for linux that I can find so far
[09:24] <nixternal> nvidia's site is rather blah for linux support truthfully
[09:27] <Healot> sonic:, you can choose either i) postfix or ii) exim4 to setup your mail server
[09:27] <Zaire> ok now Im in business this help looks good so far
[09:27] <sonic> Healot: Could you help me set up Postfix?
[09:30] <eXCeSS> anyone have any idea why my friggen kubuntu install forgets my power saving options every reboot
[09:30] <eXCeSS> aka turn my monitor off after 15 minutes of me not being around
[09:33] <Healot> sonic: unfortunately, no
[09:33] <sonic> Healot: Ok, cheers anyway
[09:33] <Healot> here is another one that Linuxers usually use
[09:33] <Healot> !info sendmail
[09:33] <ubotu> sendmail: powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Transport Agent. In repository universe, is extra. Version 8.13.5-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 188 kB, installed size 244 kB
[09:34] <sonic> Healot: thx
[09:34] <Healot> sonic: a good HOWTO >> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO.html
[09:34] <sonic> Healot: Thant's great, cheers
[09:48] <MilhousePunkRock> hey exceswater
[09:49] <exceswater> hi MilhousePunkRock
[09:49] <exceswater> :d
[09:49] <exceswater> howdy
[09:49] <MilhousePunkRock> Got Wolf ET to work by now?
[09:49] <exceswater> yup
[09:49] <exceswater> but i have a problem
[09:49] <exceswater> i even installed the mod
[09:49] <exceswater> it works
[09:50] <exceswater> the problem is that the graphic is kinda weird
[09:50] <exceswater> why
[09:51] <Zaire> well this is it time to test the twinview config lol
[09:51] <MilhousePunkRock> Hmmm, I don't have any problems,,,
[09:52] <Zaire> nope
[09:52] <Zaire> nothing lol
[09:52] <Zaire> damn I hate my nvidia lol
[09:53] <exceswater> it seems like is a problem with graphics
[09:53] <exceswater> it's kinda ugly
[09:53] <Zaire> like windows ugly lol
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, dont blame nvidia.
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> eXCeSS, the game works perfectly on my fx 5200
[09:54] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, ^^
[09:54] <Zaire> yo lost you have twinview?
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, done it once on mandriva, but was'nt so clear..
[09:55] <|lostbyte|> Now my pc is far away from my pc... :(
[09:57] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, try a lower resolution..
[09:57] <Zaire> this is my xorg http://pastebin.ca/78569
[09:59] <exceswater> :d
[09:59] <exceswater> :d
[09:59] <exceswater> it's not about nvidia i think
[09:59] <exceswater> :D
[09:59] <exceswater> i dunno
[09:59] <exceswater> i think it's about drivers
[10:00] <Zaire> dunno I thought the same about my nvidia causing kubuntu to crash then lostbyte suggested I remove ram chips to see if it was one of them and it was lol
[10:00] <exceswater> :D
[10:00] <Zaire> was running a PC 2700 with a 3200 and they clashed I guess lol
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, ah ! its you.. Glad it worked.. :P
[10:01] <Zaire> yeps lol
[10:01] <Zaire> my PC 2700 256 wouldn't even boot kubuntu lol
[10:02] <Zaire> glad it was that one and not my PC 3200 512 chip lol
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> :)
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, why do you have 2 device sections in your x.org ?
[10:02] <Zaire> I would have beat my head against my keyboard before thinking of the ram chip lol
[10:02] <exceswater> you guys know about that source code stolen from valve :D ?
[10:03] <Zaire> not sure its according to the help thing for setting it up lol
[10:03] <Zaire> http://www.ublug.org/ubuntu/twinview/twinview-howto-breezy.html
[10:04] <Lynoure> Zaire: I'm sorry I'm no help to you today but your persistense is admiring and inspiring on this miserable day.
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, dude ! you got to read properly.. it says..
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> "We then have to change it to add all the Options for TwinView to look like this:"
[10:04] <Zaire> lol I missed something as usual
[10:05] <Zaire> and yes Im very determined to not use Winblows lol
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> :)
[10:06] <Zaire> so what I do wrong other then prob the whole thing lol
[10:06] <exceswater> i hate windows
[10:06] <exceswater> money for nothing :D
[10:07] <Zaire> down with microsoft power to the people lol
[10:07] <exceswater> yup
[10:07] <exceswater> freedom
[10:07] <exceswater> peace man
[10:07] <exceswater> and power to the people lol
[10:08] <exceswater> do not feed the beast
[10:09] <Healot> hell no
[10:09] <Healot> I make money with Microsoft products :)
[10:10] <Healot> and start this linux support business with that money
[10:10] <Zaire> I kinda thought it was funny I was telling a friend of a friend I couldn't use windows anymore and he went off on me about whats with all the people that hate MS and theres nothing wrong with MS you know the regular speel and he was trying to quote me on linux drawbacks and I pissed him off by quoting all the plus sides lo typical windows user lol
[10:10] <|lostbyte|> Healot, cool !
[10:10] <Zaire> he hasn't even run linux before lol
[10:11] <Healot> hey I gotta make money somehow..
[10:11] <exceswater> healot
[10:11] <exceswater> how u make money ?
[10:11] <Healot> I run Linux on customers' PC/servers, but not mine
[10:11] <exceswater> i need some ideas
[10:11] <exceswater> :d
[10:11] <exceswater> i am in romania
[10:11] <exceswater> and we are coming in UE next year
[10:11] <Healot> I already have money :)
[10:12] <exceswater> and i think smart ideas could make big money
[10:12] <exceswater> hehe
[10:12] <exceswater> how
[10:12] <MilhousePunkRock> So I gave Kubuntu a shot...
[10:12] <Healot> consultancy make easy money... people pay for good support...
[10:12] <Healot> they do
[10:12] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, did you read the news..
[10:13] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, they call it the nagufilator.
[10:13] <exceswater> hehe
[10:13] <exceswater> support for what ?
[10:13] <exceswater> windows ?
[10:13] <exceswater> do you need employes ?
[10:14] <Lynoure> exceswater: Pretty much whatever you have skills for, if the skills are good.
[10:14] <Healot> exceswater: server/application/network systems...
[10:14] <|lostbyte|> If it was'nt for windows, i would'nt be able to download linux :P
[10:14] <MilhousePunkRock> That stupid WGA tool? I bought this Lappy used including a Win License which I obviously do not have
[10:14] <Healot> exceswater: i live like 1000 miles from your place
[10:14] <exceswater> no problemo
[10:14] <exceswater> :d
[10:14] <Healot> MilhousePunkRock: you installed that? heh
[10:14] <word> the application icon for thunderbird is the X thing...how can i change that?
[10:15] <word> not the uh thing .desktop the thing in the top left corner of the app
[10:15] <MilhousePunkRock> It came with the automated updates... If I had known that my Win wasn't exactly legal, I would have denied it
[10:15] <Healot> you never prompted to install? you should the the WGA in the install list, and deselect it from install
[10:16] <MilhousePunkRock> But I was too lazy to go there...
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> WGA is to check for a legal copy.. and thats not a bad thing..
[10:17] <Healot> funny... laziness pays
[10:17] <Healot> |lostbyte|: yup
[10:17] <exceswater> hey guys
[10:17] <MilhousePunkRock> Point is, I did _not_ know that I had a copied Windows... Sure I would not have done automated updates if I knew...
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> the only mistake they made is by not making it public about its workings..
[10:17] <exceswater> i have a problem when i install some games
[10:17] <Healot> but there are too many pirated copies of Microsoft products out there
[10:17] <exceswater> make command doesn't make nothing :D
[10:17] <exceswater> why ?
[10:17] <Healot> even in the USA... hohoho
[10:17] <|lostbyte|> micronuts. also has some greate tools like ms-office.
[10:18] <Healot> make, in which directory you typed "make"
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> WGA does not stop them working, it's just very naggy with a pop-up on boot time and a 5 second break
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, thats the point, to nag you.
[10:18] <MilhousePunkRock> exceswater: You need developer tools to make "make" working
[10:18] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Cause piracy is bad. Think some one steals your house, would you like it.
[10:18] <Healot> pay, you lazy ........
[10:19] <exceswater> :D
[10:19] <exceswater> yup
[10:19] <exceswater> it sais something about no compiler
[10:19] <exceswater> :D
[10:19] <exceswater> how i get it ?
[10:19] <MilhousePunkRock> Like I said above |lostbyte|, I did not know that my Win was a pirated version... I don't like software piracy either...
[10:19] <Zaire> apt-get install gcc or g++
[10:20] <MilhousePunkRock> There are Open Source tools for nearly any purpose, so there is no need copying...
[10:20] <Healot> build-essential << i like the name
[10:20] <exceswater> hey
[10:20] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, OK ! so you been a prey to it, so go back there and get what you have paid for..
[10:20] <exceswater> how you own a pirated windows and dunno about that
[10:20] <Zaire> exceswater: try apt-get install gcc or g++
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> i got it from ebay, it's been quite a while
[10:21] <MilhousePunkRock> and I checked the bill that came with it, doesn't say anything about a windows license there, OF COURSE
[10:21] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, Then i cant blame ebay :P
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> There is a sticker with a Key on the bottom of my Laptop, but that wasn't the key they used
[10:22] <MilhousePunkRock> in fact, it wasn't even an OEM IBM Windows, since the key on the sticker did not work
[10:22] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, one email to Microsoft can close that COmpany.. :P
[10:23] <Healot> my Windows XP uses the volume license from my business :-
[10:23] <Healot> no activation, no nagging... one key for all :)
[10:23] <MilhousePunkRock> I can't proof it no more though, since the auction is not saved on ebay any more, after more than 2 yrs
[10:23] <|lostbyte|> nice..
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> Lazyness does not always pay though. I could have gotten recovery CDs for the Laptop while it was still on warranty (Jan 06) from IBM for free
[10:24] <Zaire> well I know one thing the way that XP was setup it made it so you had to reg your hardware and once that was done you couldn't install it on other PC's without it being illegal cause the liscense is only for 1 PC
[10:24] <MilhousePunkRock> I never bothered to call them though...
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> ok
[10:25] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, But every time we change 4 peaces of hardware, it would have to be reactivated..
[10:26] <|lostbyte|> MilhousePunkRock, :)
[10:26] <Zaire> exactly and it would negate the liscense so you would have to buy a new copy all it was is a money grab
[10:26] <word> tehgay
[10:26] <MilhousePunkRock> 4 pieces, |lostbyte|? I had to do that when I upgraded my Video Card on the other PC
[10:27] <MilhousePunkRock> And again when I expanded the RAM
[10:27] <|lostbyte|> I feel sad for all the windows users..
[10:27] <Healot> luckily, that doesn't apply to volume licensing
[10:27] <Zaire> the deal with XP and the hardware was bull personally cause I mean what if your PC fries then you get a new one you have to buy a new copy with it cause your legit copy becomes illegal
[10:28] <|lostbyte|> i simply hate the right's side of microsoft..
[10:28] <Zaire> or you mean the fact that they seem to always get away with stuff and only get a slap on the wrist
[10:28] <MilhousePunkRock> I think that's not true, Zaire. If you abandon the old PC, you can take the old Win for the new PC
[10:29] <Healot> Microsoft have to support 27000++ workers... your money support them and their family...
[10:29] <Zaire> as far as I know thats how they set it up cause when you reg I know it reg's your hardware
[10:29] <|lostbyte|> Healot, Point !
[10:29] <MilhousePunkRock> I read something last week that Mr Bill Gates himself likes to download videos off the internet with moot copyrights...
[10:29] <Healot> do you want Microsoft jobs to go to India?
[10:30] <Zaire> I thought they had already lol
[10:30] <MilhousePunkRock> I wouldn't mind Healot
[10:30] <|lostbyte|> no..
[10:30] <Healot> well, Microsoft done that :)
[10:30] <Zaire> doesn't bother me none I don't work for them lol
[10:30] <Healot> i mean like all the job they provide in the USA gone to India?
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> The funny thing about M$ is that they always get away with anything...
[10:31] <Zaire> the way I look at it is why worry about something out of my control I mean if he is willing to do that despite making billions what does that say about him
[10:31] <exceswater> if is someone from Paris here
[10:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Besides that, Vista will force a vast majority of PC owners to upgrade the hardware big time
[10:31] <Healot> if Microsoft doesn't pay tax for the US government, Bush will be eating trash :)
[10:31] <exceswater> i heard that there are some jobs there
[10:31] <exceswater> concerning World of Warcraft
[10:32] <exceswater> i cannot remember the name of the company who made it
[10:32] <Healot> EA?
[10:32] <exceswater> nope
[10:32] <Zaire> Blizzard entertainment
[10:32] <exceswater> yup
[10:32] <Healot> wait a sec... blizzard
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> Blizzard is the maker of WoW AFAIK
[10:32] <exceswater> blizzard
[10:32] <exceswater> :D
[10:32] <exceswater> nice ideea
[10:32] <MilhousePunkRock> damn ninjaed, Zaire
[10:32] <exceswater> i have an ideea with a friend
[10:32] <exceswater> about a game in same style
[10:32] <Zaire> I have WC 2 and 3 lol
[10:32] <exceswater> but a lot smarter
[10:33] <exceswater> what should i do ?
[10:33] <Zaire> how old are you guys anyway lol
[10:33] <exceswater> hey
[10:33] <exceswater> how i install sdl library ?
[10:34] <exceswater> i installed gcc
[10:34] <exceswater> and g++
[10:34] <Zaire> prob same way
[10:34] <Zaire> apt-get install lol
[10:34] <Healot> there is a precompiled sdl library
[10:34] <Healot> !find libsdl
[10:34] <ubotu> Found: libsdl-image1.2, libsdl-image1.2-dev, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, libsdl-ttf2.0-0 (and 28 others)
[10:34] <Zaire> or check adept lol
[10:34] <exceswater> apt-get install what
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Copying a freaking CD ISO takes more than 10 minutes here...
[10:35] <exceswater> tell me about that sdl
[10:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Wow, you started early Dannilion
[10:35] <exceswater> :d
[10:35] <exceswater> i love kids
[10:35] <exceswater> :d
[10:35] <Dannilion> I like to do things back to front
[10:35] <Dannilion> daughter and house first, then college and job
[10:36] <exceswater> !sdl
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about sdl
[10:36] <Healot> exceswater: try to find libsdl in your favorite isntaller frontend
[10:36] <exceswater> !libsdl
[10:36] <ubotu> I know nothing about libsdl
[10:36] <Healot> and then isntall those *dev packages
[10:36] <exceswater> k
[10:36] <exceswater> i try
[10:36] <exceswater> 10x
[10:36] <Zaire> search for the stufs in adept to might be in there ?
[10:37] <exceswater> heaot
[10:37] <Healot> that's what i told exceswater
[10:37] <exceswater> i did that
[10:37] <exceswater> there are some things installed
[10:37] <exceswater> and some not
[10:38] <Healot> libsdl*dev packages, if you need to compile SDL-based applications
[10:38] <unix_infidel> wow, so i've discovered, multiple cursors in linux is impossible.
[10:38] <exceswater> i wanna play some games
[10:38] <exceswater> tuxcart
[10:38] <Healot> just  install tuxcart
[10:38] <exceswater> i tried ./configure
[10:38] <exceswater> and it sais something about missing sdl libs
[10:38] <Healot> you are compiling then
[10:39] <exceswater> i got this archive from internet
[10:39] <exceswater> and after that
[10:39] <Healot> exceswater" yeah >> libsdl*dev then...
[10:39] <exceswater> unpacker
[10:39] <Healot> those files, and of course your GCC toolchain
[10:39] <exceswater> gcc installed
[10:39] <exceswater> but at libsdl*dev
[10:39] <exceswater> nothing
[10:40] <Healot> exceswater: find the list in your favorite installer frontend
[10:40] <exceswater> yes ?
[10:40] <Healot> libsdl*dev >> wildcard, exceswater
[10:40] <exceswater> i think i know about *
[10:40] <Healot> any name that matches, you shall install that packages
[10:41] <Healot> good
[10:41] <exceswater> so you mean
[10:41] <exceswater> that i have to install all things there with lib sdl and dev ?
[10:41] <Healot> then start searching for thos libsdl*dev
[10:41] <exceswater> developer ?
[10:41] <exceswater> hehe
[10:41] <exceswater> 10x
[10:41] <exceswater> i try
[10:41] <Healot> I am off... office hour is over for today
[10:42] <exceswater> done
[10:42] <exceswater> 10x healot
[10:42] <exceswater> :d
[10:42] <exceswater> it's installing right now
[10:43] <exceswater> is there any business channel on irc.freenode ?
[10:46] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know how I import something to KTorrent for seeding? I have both the torrent file and the completely downloaded file
[10:46] <exceswater> i think that if you downloaded... you should leae ktorrent open
[10:47] <exceswater> and you will be seed
[10:47] <exceswater> i am not sure
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> Well, I opened the torrent
[10:47] <MilhousePunkRock> and it started downloading again right away
[10:48] <exceswater> :D
[10:48] <exceswater> no
[10:48] <exceswater> not open the torrent again
[10:49] <exceswater> if you didn't copied the file somewhere else
[10:49] <exceswater> i think you just will have to download it again
[10:49] <exceswater> :D
[10:52] <Zaire> damn cant get Unreal tourny to even start to install
[10:52] <exceswater> how it's MilhousePunkRock
[10:52] <exceswater> ?????
[10:56] <unix_infidel> anyone here having problems using openbox on breezy?
[10:56] <unix_infidel> it didnt create any rc or menu files for me.
[11:08] <Zaire> well Im out getting late laters
[11:09] <unix_infidel> is anyone else having problems with breezy and getting openbox to startup correctly...a
[11:11] <Steven_M> does anyone here use midnight commder?
[11:12] <sensei> Occasionally
[11:12] <exceswater> it's nice ?
[11:13] <exceswater> it's like total commander for win ?
[11:13] <sensei> Yeah, kind of.. just.. uglier :)
[11:14] <exceswater> how i can install it ?
[11:14] <sensei> There's gentoo for GUI
[11:14] <mindspin> norton commander was more "alike"
[11:14] <sensei> Which is the same
[11:15] <sensei> Was? :) *still using nc like once every 6 months* ;)
[11:15] <mindspin> no dos around here anyways
[11:16] <unix_infidel> there's always thunar too.
[11:16] <unix_infidel> its a nice browser if you dont mind the default ugly gtk theme.
[11:16] <unix_infidel> you can always change the gtk theme and icon set theme :)
[11:16] <sensei> exceswater: You're aware that mc is for the console? There's a gui program with the same general idea called 'gentoo'
[11:16] <unix_infidel> wow, openbox has gotta be the biggest biznitch to config from startup.
[11:17] <sensei> unix_infidel: What can thunar do that nautilus can't?
[11:17] <unix_infidel> its less functional...more minimalist.
[11:17] <unix_infidel> some can appreciate that.
[11:17] <exceswater> :d
[11:17] <exceswater> ok
[11:17] <exceswater> gentoo
[11:17] <exceswater> i have a problem
[11:17] <unix_infidel> its just looks nice imho.
[11:17] <exceswater> make command is not working
[11:17] <exceswater> why ?>
[11:18] <sensei> !configure
[11:18] <ubotu> I know nothing about configure
[11:18] <sensei> !make
[11:18] <jleibold> can anyone help me getting tvtime to work?
[11:18] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[11:18] <sensei> exceswater: gentoo is in apt though
[11:18] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[11:19] <Steven_M> sensei: do know how to make mc pause for outfit for things like ping?
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:19] <exceswater> cannot find build essential
[11:19] <|lostbyte|> jleibold, xgl ?
[11:20] <jleibold> lostbyte, xorg
[11:20] <sensei> Steven_M: I'm not sure what you mean, so I'm guessing no :)
[11:20] <jleibold> lostbyte tvtime runs but only get 1 frame every 10 to 20 seconds
[11:20] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, Thats not possible..
[11:21] <jleibold> xawtv works great
[11:21] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, sudo apt-get update
[11:21] <|lostbyte|> then try..
[11:21] <exceswater> what is after all that gentoo
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> jleibold, Try lowering some features ..
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> jleibold, like full-resolution
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> duplix
[11:22] <|lostbyte|> and let it to blur..
[11:23] <jleibold> lowered everything possible no changes
[11:23] <|lostbyte|> Does you pc slow down ?
[11:24] <jleibold> yes i see that msp3400 produces heavy cpu load
[11:25] <jleibold> even the menu within tvtime is slow
[11:26] <jleibold> have hauppauge wintv with bt848a chipset and nvidia binary drivers
[11:26] <|lostbyte|> jleibold, xawtv is another alternative.
[11:28] <jleibold> lostbyte, xawtv works fine - no way to get tvtime to work?
[11:29] <exceswater> hey pplz
[11:29] <exceswater> plz tell me how can i install something
[11:29] <exceswater> i have gcc
[11:29] <exceswater> and g++
[11:29] <sensei> exceswater: Did you read:
[11:29] <sensei> !make
[11:29] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)
[11:29] <exceswater> i make: ./configure
[11:29] <|lostbyte|> exceswater, what do you want to install ?
[11:29] <exceswater> it's ok
[11:29] <exceswater> but installer sais ./ configure
[11:29] <exceswater> then: make
[11:30] <exceswater> and make does nothing
[11:30] <exceswater> it says doesn't exist
[11:30] <exceswater> tuxcart
[11:30] <exceswater> :D
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> jleibold, some where in tv-time is your solution, dont really know..
[11:30] <exceswater> i want tuxcart
[11:30] <sensei> exceswater: sudo apt-get install tuxkart
[11:30] <MistaED> exceswater: try planet penguin racer
[11:30] <thomas> hey guys... what's a neat ftp/fxp client?
[11:30] <|lostbyte|> eXCeSS, read the README that came with it.
[11:30] <thomas> i used to use flashfxp...
[11:31] <MistaED> it's the same thing only PPR is being developed from tuxracer
[11:31] <exceswater> :D
[11:31] <|lostbyte|> thomas, konqueror.
[11:31] <exceswater> kart is nicer
[11:32] <exceswater> hey
[11:32] <exceswater> different question
[11:33] <exceswater> are sport shoes expensive in your countrys ?
[11:33] <sensei> exceswater: That goes into #kubuntu-offtopic
[11:33] <blaq> how do i get dvd playback working?
[11:33] <sensei> But, yes ;)
[11:34] <blaq> a search for 'dvd' on the kubuntu wiki doesn't tell me anything
[11:34] <blaq> cant find anything about dvd in help
[11:34] <exceswater> !dvd
[11:34] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:34] <|lostbyte|> blaq, install kmplayer
[11:34] <exceswater> sense where are u from ?
[11:34] <sensei> exceswater: Born in Sweden, living in the UK
[11:34] <exceswater> :D
[11:35] <blaq> i have been able to play dvds in kaffeine in previous installs
[11:35] <blaq> but i cant remember how i did it
[11:35] <blaq> i cant see this being an uncommon problem
[11:35] <|lostbyte|> blaq, file > open dvd
[11:36] <Pupeno_> Does anybody know of any keyboard, other than Contour that has all the control, alt, shift, etc keys in the thumbs area ?
[11:36] <blaq> yeah cheers mate
[11:36] <blaq> haven't fucking tried that
[11:36] <|lostbyte|> Weird !
[11:40] <unix_infidel> Pupeno_: that's gotta be the ugliest keyboard i've ever seen :P
[11:40] <Pupeno_> unix_infidel: I am not searching for preatiness in a keyboard.
[11:40] <unix_infidel> might as well develop something revolutionary then :P
[11:45] <Pupeno_> unix_infidel: just having those keys next to the thumb would aliviate my stressed "outter" fingers.
[11:45] <unix_infidel> Pupeno_: then get a thinkpad.
[11:45] <Pupeno_> unix_infidel: err... I have two.
[11:46] <Dannilion> I have a small problem with my sound- it's delayed
[11:46] <unix_infidel> heh, and that keyboard isnt good enough for ya?
[11:46] <sensei> What keyboard? *curious*
[11:46] <unix_infidel> sensei: google images Contour Keyboard
[11:46] <Pupeno_> unix_infidel: of course no!
[11:46] <sensei> ok
[11:46] <unix_infidel> Pupeno_: its the finest keyboard i've come across and had no stress whatsoever.
[11:47] <Zaire> back lol
[11:47] <Dannilion> so am I
[11:47] <Pupeno_> unix_infidel: I have my outter fingres very stressed of using the ctrl and alt key. Besides that, one of the notebook has a spanish keyboard, the other a german keyboard and I use US Dvorak... so, I am less than satisfied with both.
[11:47] <Zaire> does anyone know what  what this means
[11:47] <Zaire> WARNING: ALC_EXT_capture is subject to change!
[11:47] <Zaire> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:47] <Zaire> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[11:47] <Zaire> Couldn't set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual
[11:47] <Zaire> History:
[11:47] <Zaire> Exiting due to error
[11:48] <sensei> Hm, the bowl seems a bit deep :O
[11:48] <iBrood> My kuubntu installation icon wont work. can someone please help me.
[11:48] <sensei> Zaire: Does your drivers do gl stuff?
[11:48] <sensei> What graphics card have you got?
[11:48] <Zaire> FX 5300
[11:48] <Zaire> 5200*
[11:48] <sensei> !nvidia
[11:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:49] <sensei> Using those?
[11:49] <fek> does anybody know, where the profiles of konsole are saved?
[11:49] <Zaire> I have the actual Nvidia driver installed at the moment
[11:49] <sensei> fek: ~/.kde/share/config/konsolerc
[11:50] <sensei> and konsole.eventsr
[11:50] <sensei> c
[11:50] <sensei> Zaire: M'kay, so add Load "glx" to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file under the Section "Module"
[11:50] <fek> sensei: thanks
[11:50] <sensei> np
[11:51] <Zaire> its already in there by default
[11:51] <sensei> Zaire: Okay, see if you can find anything about it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:53] <unix_infidel> what database management system is good for the beginner to play around with??
[11:54] <Healot> Microsoft Access?
[11:54] <unix_infidel> b/w postgres mysql or whatever.
[11:54] <unix_infidel> Healot: that barely qualifies as a decent databse tool.
[11:54] <Healot> it is a professional tool
[11:54] <Zaire> this is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/78607
[11:55] <unix_infidel> Healot: you must think you are i ##windows :P
[11:56] <pablo_> hello
[11:56] <Healot> nah... unix_infidel for mmysql >> mysqladmin is sufficient
[11:56] <pablo_> just installed kubuntu the other day
[11:56] <Zaire> sensei: this is the xorg log http://pastebin.ca/78607
[11:56] <sensei> Zaire: For some reason it can't load GLcore, which results in glx not being loaded :O
[11:56] <pablo_> and have a drama with samba
[11:56] <sensei> GLcore doesn't exist on your system
[11:56] <pablo_> have checked wiki & faqs all over the place, but no joy
[11:57] <Zaire> thats impossible
[11:57] <Healot> !find libgl
[11:57] <ubotu> Found: freeglut3, freeglut3-dev, gle-doc, libgl1-mesa, libgl1-mesa-dev (and 66 others)
[11:57] <pablo_> i'm using kubuntu as a workstation [and loving it] 
[11:57] <pablo_> and i have a fedora core 5 dev server
[11:57] <Dannilion> I refuse to delete Kubunut
[11:57] <Dannilion> *Kubuntu
[11:58] <nekromaan> hello i compiled a new kernel and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 and i cant mount my second hard drive
[11:58] <sensei> Zaire: Why's that?
[11:58] <thomas> another question: what editor can you suggest? mostly for xhtml/php/css coding
[11:58] <pablo_> when i connect throught konqueror using smb://username@server/share
[11:58] <pablo_> it's all cool
[11:58] <pablo_> when i try to mount through fstab the following happens
[11:59] <sensei> thomas: emacs if you don't mind getting your hands dirty for an initial period of time
[11:59] <pablo_> the owner and group are displayed as the user id numbers instead of username
[11:59] <pablo_> same with groups
[11:59] <pablo_> so it's not allowing access
[11:59] <pablo_> useing security=user
[11:59] <thomas> well, i already tried emacs... and at the moment i don't have that much time for getting into it...
[11:59] <pablo_> any ideas???
[11:59] <sensei> pablo_: Try security=share ?
[12:00] <pablo_> won't that let everyone in?
[12:00] <|lostbyte|> pablo_, pastebin pls.
[12:00] <sensei> thomas: I think kate can do some syntax highlighting
[12:00] <pablo_> will try now
[12:00] <pablo_> thanks
[12:00] <Zaire> sensei: my xorg.conf has the glcore added to the modules section
[12:00] <pablo_> 'k
[12:00] <sensei> Zaire: If you add the module "Iknowthismoduledoesn'texistonmycomputer", it's impossible that that module doesn't exist? :)
[12:01] <Healot> !find php
[12:01] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-php5, php-pear, php5, php5-cgi, php5-cli (and 176 others)
[12:02] <xanax`> hello
[12:02] <Zaire> damn Ive changed my xorg so many times now its hard to tell if I have a clean backup lol
[12:02] <Healot> xorg.conf~
[12:02] <Healot> that's your backup file
[12:03] <Zaire> not on mine it isnt lol
[12:03] <Zaire> I have about 20 backups now lol and that isnt one of them lol
[12:05] <sensei> Zaire: Have you rebooted since you installed the nvidia drivers?
[12:05] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, hi, you paste bin'd one 30 min back... here http://pastebin.ca/78569
[12:05] <Zaire> yeps many times lol
[12:05] <sensei> And you're using the "nvidia" module in xorg? Not "nv" ?
[12:06] <sensei> For "Device" that is
[12:06] <Zaire> thats a previous one that didn't work
[12:06] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, where i told you u had two sections..
[12:07] <jochua> salut
[12:07] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, remove the first device section completely..
[12:07] <franco3> salut
[12:08] <Zaire> not sure thats a good idea lol
[12:08] <Dannilion> eh oh
[12:08] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, as you have two of them..
[12:09] <franco3> bye all
[12:09] <|lostbyte|> franco3, bye !
[12:10] <NekoEd> I had a question if anyone could help me.
[12:10] <|lostbyte|> !ask
[12:10] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:10] <NekoEd> Haha. Sorry im sure to getting flamed for not being a genius.
[12:10] <larson9999> since you're on the subject of nvidia drivers, i've had two different computers with this problem with dapper: the hw recognition somehow things i have a different card and uses the intel* driver and won't use the nvidia one even though i've installed it properly. i just rm'd the offending module and the nvidia module gets used.
[12:11] <musiclinux> does anyone know how to get K3B to accept MP3s so I can make an audio CD?
[12:11] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, disable it in the bios.
[12:11] <Healot> !mp3
[12:11] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:11] <NekoEd> Ok i have kubuntu set up on my server, port 80 and 90 forwarded to it , and dns software running. But still noone can see them.
[12:11] <Healot> !info libxine-extracodecs
[12:11] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[12:12] <musiclinux> I already have Lame installed but k3b can't see it as a plugin
[12:12] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: no, i don't really have two video cards.  the hw detection things i do, though.  this happened on 2 of the 5 or so sysstems i've installed ubuntu on.  there's a thread out there of others having this issue with dapper.
[12:12] <|lostbyte|> NekoEd, dns software ?
[12:13] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, You dont have a built it one ?
[12:13] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: nope
[12:13] <NekoEd> Ya. I have no-ip.coms linux version of there software running.
[12:14] <pablo_> pastebin is killing me
[12:14] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, how do you know its using intel ?
[12:14] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: just mentioning it here in case you see someone who said he's followed the instructions and still can't get nvidia drivers working.  a quick lsmod will rule this out as an issue
[12:14] <Zaire> pastbin xorg restored
[12:14] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: lsmod shows it
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, do you have the nvidia module loaded ?
[12:15] <NekoEd> When i type <domain>:90 i can see my webpages. but no one else can.
[12:15] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, lspci | grep AGP
[12:16] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: yes,  i've been using nvidia drivers since the 90's.  i don't have an issue installing it. it's a bug in dapper.
[12:16] <|lostbyte|> NekoEd, so your dynamic dns update client is working..
[12:17] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i solved my issue a long time ago.  just figured i'd pass the info
[12:17] <NekoEd> Yes it is. |lostbyte
[12:17] <Lynoure> NekoEd: does dns lookup give the right ip for the domain? (or have you check that already?)
[12:18] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, ah ! ok.. so what was the solution... ?
[12:18] <pablo_> zaire & lostbyte: tried security = share
[12:18] <NekoEd> ive nto done a dns look up just a ping
[12:18] <Zaire> I get the same error still
[12:18] <Lynoure> Neko: try both on your machine and further away
[12:18] <pablo_> user changes to root on everything - might be because root mounted it
[12:18] <pablo_> group still ids
[12:18] <pablo_> owner - not user - changed to root - sry
[12:18] <pablo_> pastebin is giving me no love
[12:19] <Zaire> I took out the first devices section and restarted kdm and nothign same error
[12:20] <|lostbyte|> NekoEd, whats your domain name ?
[12:20] <sensei> Zaire: paste your xorg.conf in pastebin
[12:20] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i just rm'd the intel module.  then it uses the nvidia module as it should.  i suppose you could rename it or something if you didn't want to rm it.  this was a bit of problem for me since it was my first time with a debian system.  i'd installed nvidia a million times on rh systems.  at first i was like, wtf.  i did find a thread on it.
[12:20] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Solution is to move the intel module to a dir outside of xorgs realm
[12:21] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/78617
[12:21] <pablo_> not zaire, sensei
[12:21] <pablo_> sry sensei
[12:22] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, removing the xserver-xorg-driver-i740 and xserver-xorg-driver-i128 package, would that work ?
[12:23] <|lostbyte|> sensei, ^^
[12:23] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/78617
[12:23] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: don't know but it sounds like it might be a more elegant solution than the one i picked.
[12:23] <sensei> |lostbyte|: That'd probably do as well, yes :)
[12:23] <sensei> Fancy pants solution hehe
[12:23] <larson9999> lol
[12:24] <|lostbyte|> :P lolz
[12:24] <Zaire> http://pastebin.ca/78617
[12:24] <sensei> Zaire: What does slocate GLcore say ?
[12:25] <ken___> Please excuse just testing/learning
[12:26] <sensei> Zaire: Open a console, and type: slocate GLcore
[12:26] <Zaire> command does nothin
[12:26] <RawSewage> why isnt Skype in the repos
[12:27] <sensei> Zaire: Sure it does.. It just doesn't show anything
[12:27] <Zaire> go to skyp site and d/l the .deb
[12:27] <sensei> So, you don't have GLcore
[12:27] <RawSewage> ok
[12:27] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, add it then..
[12:28] <RawSewage> Im not a developer, Champ
[12:28] <Zaire> rinse and repeat till your nick changes to clean lol
[12:28] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, neither am i dude ! i meant ---------> eb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, neither am i dude ! i meant ---------> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[12:29] <RawSewage> oh
[12:29] <RawSewage> whats the advantage of that
[12:29] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, direct access from adept.
[12:29] <RawSewage> as opposed to downloading the deb from their site
[12:30] <RawSewage> ok
[12:30] <RawSewage> ty
[12:30] <|lostbyte|> np
[12:30] <Zaire> whats wrong with downloading from skype thats what I did lol
[12:30] <RawSewage> nothing
[12:31] <RawSewage> ok, added to repos
[12:31] <|lostbyte|> Zaire, cool !
[12:32] <RawSewage> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[12:32] <RawSewage> its hanging
[12:33] <RawSewage> deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[12:33] <bimberi> !skype
[12:33] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:34] <Zaire> so let me get this straight I am running an OS that is basically dependant on the GLcore and yet I have no GLcore :S
[12:34] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, does'nt for me..
[12:34] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, hangs where ?
[12:34] <RawSewage> ok
[12:34] <RawSewage> ... trying again
[12:35] <RawSewage> the  Skype isnt hanging it
[12:35] <RawSewage> Waiting for headers 99%
[12:35] <sensei> Gah, I give up.. Does anyone know if it's possible to be able to click links in konsole and have them opened in any browser?
[12:35] <sensei> Or at least konq ?
[12:35] <RawSewage> I think it's a Compiz thing hanging it up
[12:35] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, i am on compiz too..
[12:36] <RawSewage> do you have a broken package
[12:36] <RawSewage> in the updates
[12:36] <kbrooks> EVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, like ?
[12:36] <RawSewage> I forget.  some sort of 2D thingee
[12:36] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, everything works fine here, ( touch wood )
[12:37] <RawSewage> Im talking about the Updater
[12:37] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, i use apt-get update
[12:37] <kbrooks> EVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?
[12:37] <larson9999> sensei: from konsole?  i don't think so.
[12:37] <sensei> larson9999: Shite :/
[12:38] <RawSewage> |lostbyte|, how is your video playback in Compiz.  mine is jerky in fullscreen
[12:38] <Zaire> damn....well I gtg its 4:30 in the morning lol bed times for me lol
[12:38] <sensei> Nite
[12:38] <Zaire> laters
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, mine starts with a 2 second jerk and goes smooth..
[12:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set to a user ONLY can read and modify his home?
[12:38] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, i use mplayer.
[12:38] <RawSewage> fullscreen
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, 5200 fx, 512 mb HERE, YOU ?
[12:39] <|lostbyte|> 512 is my ram by the way..
[12:39] <kbrooks> MetaMorfoziS: that's impossible
[12:39] <kbrooks> MetaMorfoziS: errr....
[12:39] <RawSewage> 4200
[12:39] <RawSewage> 512 I believe
[12:39] <kbrooks> MetaMorfoziS: sorry, misread
[12:39] <sensei> kbrooks: chroot ?
[12:40] <MetaMorfoziS> how?
[12:40] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: It's a bit of work and it'll waste some space, but chroot can do that
[12:40] <kbrooks> sensei: ?
[12:40] <|lostbyte|> MetaMorfoziS, sudo chmod a-xrw /home/<name> -R
[12:40] <RawSewage> whats hanging is  au.archive.ubuntu.com
[12:41] <sensei> |lostbyte|: That way he'll be able to read /usr /var /opt and so on anyways
[12:41] <|lostbyte|> RawSewage, oh :) mirrior is down i guess.
[12:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and where is the username coming?
[12:41] <RawSewage> yeah
[12:41] <MetaMorfoziS> oh
[12:41] <|lostbyte|> sensei, you ref to MetaMorfoziS  ?
[12:41] <MetaMorfoziS> hm!:)
[12:41] <sensei> |lostbyte|: Yeah
[12:42] <sensei> |lostbyte|: I think we understood his request differently :)
[12:42] <|lostbyte|> sensei, he does'nt want others to read and write to his home..
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> it isn't work
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on /
[12:42] <|lostbyte|> :)
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> from that account
[12:42] <sensei> I understood it as if he wanted the user to not be able to leave his home dir
[12:42] <MetaMorfoziS> yes!
[12:42] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: Then you want chroot
[12:43] <|lostbyte|> ahh !
[12:43] <kbrooks> I like the move...
[12:43] <MetaMorfoziS> how?
[12:43] <MetaMorfoziS> how chroot works?
[12:43] <sensei> man chroot
[12:43] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, but where the username comes?
[12:43] <grizzly> Any editor for terminal with colours like kate ?
[12:43] <MetaMorfoziS> chroot newroot
[12:44] <MetaMorfoziS> but where it knows what user's home changing?
[12:44] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: Seriously, this isn't done in a whip of time.. Take an hour off, google and set it up. I hate to repeat what other's already has said
[12:44] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: A useful search term is 'jail'
[12:44] <MetaMorfoziS> i thinked to do that is only one cmd
[12:44] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't understadn why it a difficult thing on linux:(
[12:45] <Lynoure> MetaMorfoziS: Is doing that on windows easy?
[12:45] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: If you do what I said, and do some research instead of sitting here whine about it, you'd soon find that other's has done a lot of the work for you
[12:46] <sensei> MetaMorfoziS: When I say research and give you the hint 'jail', the first thing you do is google.. if that won't give you anything straight away... search for jail on freshmeat.net
[12:46] <MetaMorfoziS> okayokay, sorrysorry:D
[12:46] <sensei> http://www.jmcresearch.com/projects/jail/  And vioala.. Try that, if you hit any problems, then ask.. Just don't ask people to do everything for you :)
[12:46] <|lostbyte|> sensei, but atleast give him some keywords to start with..
[12:46] <sensei> |lostbyte|: 06:44:28 < sensei> MetaMorfoziS: A useful search term is 'jail'
[12:47] <sensei> jail and chroot is well enough
[12:47] <|lostbyte|> cool.
[12:47] <kbrooks> Can SOMEONE answer:
[12:47] <kbrooks> EVERYONE: Has EasyUbuntu 3.02.1 ever commented out ALL the entries in your sources.list when you asked it to save the sources.list that it generates?
[12:47] <grizzly> is language-support-en a critical package ?
[12:48] <Healot> grizzly: default, but not critical
[12:48] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, sorry ! didt use it.
[12:48] <kbrooks> A user has complained that it did?!?
[12:48] <Healot> you can just use C/POSIX as locale...
 easyubuntu script commented out everything in my kubuntu 6.06 /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:48] <kbrooks> ^
[12:48] <grizzly> Healot: So it can be removed, right?
[12:48] <Healot> grizzly: yes, but not recommended, I would say
[12:49] <Healot> it's for the English locale... well, at least for most of use, it is useful
[12:49] <grizzly> K, I just wanted to get rid of openoffice
[12:49] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, it commected even the ones you want to use ?
[12:49] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: not me
[12:49] <|lostbyte|> k
[12:50] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: I have no idea . he obviously didnt give enough information
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, it commenting the older one, then its a good thing.
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> if*
[12:50] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: "the older one"?
[12:51] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: he said "everything".
[12:51] <Healot> KDE depends on that too...
[12:51] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, the older repos he is chaning..
[12:51] <|lostbyte|> oh
[12:51] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: reread the statement
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> ALL :)
[12:52] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: have you used easyubuntu? :P
[12:53] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, no, i specify my repos my self..
[12:53] <larson9999> i'm going to have to check out this easyubuntu thing.  sounds so easy even my mom could use it
[12:54] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, also, i dont like automated scripts..
[12:54] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: EU isnt fully automated
[12:55] <|lostbyte|> kbrooks, it comes with gnome by default ?
[12:55] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: er? easyubuntu isnt a distro
[12:56] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: it never installs anything you dont ask it to
[12:56] <|lostbyte|> argh ! i am mixing it up with some thing else.. sorry..
[12:57] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: hehe
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> ok, i can'T figure it out
[01:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't setup fptd
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> i can't work out to a user can't chdir from hist home
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> only that i have is the windows sharing anyway
[01:01] <jake> Hey, anyone know if there's a program in the repositories I can use to decompress .rpm files?
[01:01] <MetaMorfoziS> it's abject:(
[01:02] <LionRock> can somebody give any advice. How does programmers develop kubuntu ? Does they compile each time all system files or how does this thing go ?
[01:03] <osh> jake: rpm2tar?
[01:03] <jake> I'll take a look at that, thanks
[01:03] <jake> Unfortunately, all of the linux ports I can find seem to assume I'm running RedHat
[01:04] <osh> jake: what program are you going for?
[01:04] <jake> the LimeWire Linux Release
[01:04] <jake> I don't like Nicotine
[01:04] <osh> jake: ahh. there's something called "alien" too which allows you to install rpms on debian based systems.
[01:05] <jake> Ah I heard about that, I'll check that out too
[01:05] <jake> thanks
[01:05] <|lostbyte|> osh, alien converts..
[01:05] <cox377> Hey All
[01:05] <jake> I love this OS :)
[01:06] <jake> I've went from using nothing but Windows to Kubuntu and it's actually not too hard to get the hang of, especially since I have this channel to ask for help on
[01:06] <jake> I love the Adept Package Manager mostly, though
[01:06] <osh> |lostbyte|: sure, but what I said still holds true. it will allow you to install rpms.
[01:07] <|lostbyte|> :)
[01:07] <Lynoure> jake: that's nice to hear :)
[01:07] <jake> I decided to install Linux after windows killed itself for like the 5th time on my laptop.
[01:08] <Lynoure> One ice thing about open source is that one can take secondary pride about a project even if one has only submitted bug reports and done nothing else :) Or at least I can.
[01:08] <cox377> i must admit i only use the windows box for gaming now
[01:09] <jake> Yeah, it bugs me there aren't many games released for Linux
[01:09] <jake> Which is why I'll still be using my brother's Windows Box for games
[01:10] <cox377> the only thing that i dont like about this kubuntu install is that i cant get a higher rez about 1024 when the card supports 1280.. but it's not a major issue
[01:11] <kbrooks> cox377: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:11] <cox377> tried it before
[01:11] <cox377> didn't get anywhere unfortunatly
[01:11] <kbrooks> cox377: er, dont select NO screen resolutions
[01:12] <larson9999> jake: there are plenty games in linux these days for my limited game time
[01:12] <cox377> what do u mean?>
[01:12] <kbrooks> cox377: check off the highest resolutions tht your card supports
[01:12] <|lostbyte|> larson9999, which is your fav ?
[01:12] <kbrooks> cox377: don't check off _nothing_.
[01:13] <jake> I know there are plenty of ports; my friend is always playing Diablo 2 on his Linux box
[01:13] <cox377> kbrooks: you mean when it asks which rez ask for the the highest
[01:13] <kbrooks> cox377: yea
[01:13] <kbrooks> did u do that before
[01:14] <jake> but other than old SNES games, I like to stick with modern games. Like Final Fantasy XI and it's usually a while after the windows release that you get one for Linux
[01:14] <larson9999> |lostbyte|: i don't have a favorite game.  right now i've been going though some old adventure games.
[01:14] <kbrooks> jake: which is bad
[01:14] <|lostbyte|> k
[01:14] <kbrooks> jake: there is still a market in linux for gaming
[01:15] <larson9999> jake: that's starting to change.  vote with your wallet.
[01:15] <jake> kbrooks: I just wish it was a bigger market
[01:15] <jake> Heh, my wallet is empty
[01:15] <jake> I'm a poor student, why do you think I love linux so much: ;)
[01:16] <cox377> kbrooks: i ran it, and it still only allows these rez's
[01:16] <cox377> 	SubSection "Display"
[01:16] <cox377> 		Depth		24
[01:16] <cox377> 		Modes		"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[01:16] <cox377> 	EndSubSection
[01:16] <cox377> EndSection
[01:16] <Lynoure> I would want to make an adventure game for linux, but lack in graphics skills
[01:16] <kbrooks> cox377: dang :(
[01:16] <larson9999> jake: well, when it gets some money spend it on a game that puts out a linux version.  and buy it from a vendor that will actually get counted as a linux sell.
[01:16] <jake> I used to be semi decent at coding, in Basic at least. These days all I can handle is MUSH Softcode
[01:17] <larson9999> jake: if you're broke try some of the oss linux games.  there are some that are coming along nicely
[01:17] <kbrooks> larson9999: ppracer is a good one, but ....
[01:17] <kbrooks> larson9999: 3D accel is required
[01:18] <jake> I have been browsing through the stuff in the repetoirs. (pardon my spelling) but I'm mostly satisfied with my MUSHes and MUCKs at the minute
[01:18] <jake> First two programs I installed when I had finished installing Kubuntu; TinyFugue and FireFox
[01:18] <larson9999> kbrooks: i have fun with ppracer but there are plenty more.  some nice games in most genres
[01:19] <jake> Since I discovered FireFox, I can't stand to use any other browser
[01:19] <kbrooks> soooooooooooooo
[01:19] <jake> In part because it's British Made :)
[01:19] <jake> It's nice to see something decent come out of my home country
[01:19] <kbrooks> jake: FF is from the USA
[01:20] <kbrooks> prove that it is from UK
[01:20] <jake> Really? Then I was lied to
[01:20] <cox377> lol
[01:20] <thomas> i have a question about compiling sth...
[01:20] <jake> My friend sent me the link, told me it was fast and stable and british XD
[01:20] <kbrooks> jake: I THINK it originated in the USA
[01:20] <jake> Well, I dunno for sure, but my friend told me it was british. Then again, he said Nokia was Japanese
[01:21] <kbrooks> jake: do you remember phoenix?
[01:21] <jake> Nope
[01:21] <jake> brb
[01:21] <kbrooks> jake: firefox used to be named that, iirc
[01:21] <thomas> it says: Preparing kernel build system in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.15... ./build.sh line 90: make: command not found
[01:21] <thomas> and on line 90 it says: make -C $KERNEL_SRC modules_prepare >/dev/null || exit 1
[01:22] <kbrooks> jake: I know that netscape created netscape, from which mozilla was derived from
[01:22] <kbrooks> jake: i know that they are based in the USA
[01:22] <kbrooks> jake: like AOL is
[01:23] <thomas> anyone knows why it doesn't work?
[01:23] <kbrooks> jake: mozilla foundation/corporation aree based in the USA
[01:24] <larson9999> netscape came from mosaic
[01:24] <larson9999> where was mosaic based?
[01:26] <larson9999> oh wait, i think it didn't.  i think mozilla was the early code name for netscape meaning mosaic killer so it probably was a competitor
[01:27] <snikker> i've got a problem (fonts too too small) with some 32-bit app under amd64. how fix this?
[01:30] <grizzly> is there a webcam app to record vids?
[01:30] <larson9999> just read a little history of 'mozilla'.  gets a bit confusing.  netscape is codenamed mozilla which is codenamed seamonkey.
[01:30] <grizzly> camorama only takes pics.
[01:31] <cox377> I've found this small tutorial on forcing rezolutions
[01:32] <cox377> "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[01:32] <cox377> "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-1-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro"
[01:32] <cox377> add this to the end of the line "vga=1280x1024"
[01:32] <cox377> to get this
[01:32] <cox377> "kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.16-1-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro vga=1280x1024"
[01:32] <cox377> but when i look for that line, i see this
[01:33] <grizzly> Anybody? webcam app to record videos??
[01:33] <cox377> "kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-25-k7 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash"
[01:34] <cox377> does anyone know what i'm on about
[01:35] <larson9999> grizzly: you just want to record stuff your webcam sees?  anything that reads bttv stuff works for me
[01:36] <coachJ> Hello All:: I have stupid question but here goes. How can I get Konqueror to open in Maxium view, it alowas opens as a small window
[01:36] <grizzly> larson9999:  bttv?
[01:37] <hussam> kkathman: hey!
[01:38] <larson9999> grizzly: heck, i don't have a camera on this computer. it's been a while but i thought many of the video apps can read your camera and record it.
[01:38] <larson9999> my son does that all the time... he's sleeping now or i'd ask.
[01:39] <grizzly> larson9999: Thanks! I'll search.
[01:39] <coachJ>  I have stupid question but here goes. How can I get Konqueror to open in Maxium view, it alowas opens as a small window
[01:40] <Emess> maximise it then close it, and if its the only instance open it should save liek that, otehrwise eit its config
[01:40] <Emess> actually i had the same problem when i first installed lol
[01:40] <larson9999> grizzly: didn't i see a bot post about webcams here earlier?
[01:40] <coachJ> i have done the max close open thing doesn work
[01:40] <larson9999> !webcam
[01:40] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[01:41] <larson9999> grizzly: maybe one of those sites has some insight
[01:41] <coachJ> how do i edit its config
[01:43] <Emess> ok, see the little konqueror logo int eh top left hand corner?
[01:43] <coachJ> y
[01:43] <Emess> clickt hat and go to window settings/preferences
[01:43] <Emess> *configure window preferences
[01:43] <Emess> not used to dapper quite yet lol
[01:44] <Emess> anyway in there, theres an option for window specific prefs
[01:44] <Emess> make a new one, and in workarounds find maximise and set it to force
[01:44] <coachJ> let me look
[01:47] <Emess> wierd...adept keeps freezing when it tries to install JRE, it gets stuck on 9 or 10% while showing the license agreement
[01:48] <Philip5> Emess: have you pressed enter to see the whole license?
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Emess: yeah, it does that
[01:48] <Philip5> and then typed yes
[01:48] <Hobbsee> Philip5: i'ts broken
[01:48] <Emess> its an adept window, no place to press enter or type yes
[01:49] <omeow> Known bug in adept apparently.
[01:49] <Philip5> aha
[01:49] <omeow> (hey what else about adept is new)
[01:49] <Philip5> then install it with apt-get
[01:49] <Riddell> Emess: that's a known bug
[01:49] <Emess> yeah, im gonna try do it  manually, hopefully it wont need to redownload
[01:49] <Riddell> Emess: yes, synaptic will work, as will apt-get on the command line, neither will need to re-download
[01:49] <Philip5> i installed jdk yesterday with apt-get
[01:50] <Emess> apt-get upgrade sun-java-jre5.0.bin?
[01:50] <Emess> i hate java period ...
[01:51] <coachJ> Emess---got it, it is under settings>config view profile.
[01:51] <Emess> yeah
[01:51] <coachJ> thks
[01:51] <Philip5> Emess: apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[01:51] <sagara> woo
[01:51] <sagara> yakuake rules
[01:51] <omeow> Definitely. :)
[01:52] <sagara> haven't had the need to start a konsole
[01:52] <Emess> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:52] <Emess> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:52] <cox377> make sure no other adept is running
[01:52] <omeow> Close adept first.
[01:52] <Philip5> Emess: you have to sudo or be root
[01:52] <sagara> are you running synaptic/adept/apt?
[01:53] <Emess> adept notifier is running
[01:53] <Philip5> Emess: and close apept
[01:53] <Emess> and i am in sudo
[01:53] <Philip5> adept
[01:54] <larson9999> i've been getting the case where adept hangs around even after i close it.  have to kill hte process. don't konw if it's just this system or what
[01:55] <coachJ> adept dowsn't do that to me
[01:55] <Netcad> say there is a line in the format token1-token2 token3-token4-token5. how to replace the - characters only between token3 token4 and token5?
[01:55] <Emess> wierd, i killed the process and it still gives teh same error
[01:57] <Emess> and when i dpkg --configure -a
[01:57] <Emess> i get dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[01:58] <omeow> sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:58] <omeow> And then try again.
[01:59] <Emess> tis working now, thanks yo~
[01:59] <Emess> for future reference, what does fuser do?
[01:59] <neopsyche> hello
[01:59] <neopsyche> Can anyone help me configure my mouse?
[01:59] <Emess> whats wrong with it?
[02:00] <omeow> Emess: type man:/fuser in konqueror
[02:00] <omeow> (or man fuser in your console)
[02:01] <Emess> ah ok, thanks for that
[02:01] <neopsyche> my xorg.conf
[02:01] <Emess> what type of mouse do you have? because usually ubuntu figured it out rpetty well
[02:02] <neopsyche> settings seem to be incorrect.. its a serial mouse .. i dont know what command lines i need to change, its a serial mouse 1.1A compatable microsoft wheel mouse
[02:02] <coachJ> emess i just downloaded sun jave 5jre using adept if is freezing because it wants me to ok (under details) how do I click ok?
[02:03] <Emess> gotta do it manually, its an adept bug
[02:03] <Emess> because it wants to accept a EULA agreement
[02:04] <coachJ> i see that so apt-get sun blah-blah??
[02:04] <neopsyche> anyone any mouse ideas?
[02:04] <Emess> sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jre
[02:04] <coachJ> thks
[02:04] <kbrooks> Hi.
[02:05] <kbrooks> I'm using Kubuntu w/ Ubuntu. I would like ashift+numlock to work. But it doesn't.
[02:05] <kbrooks> It's supposed to enablee mouse keys
[02:06] <kbrooks> at least, thats what gnome calls it
[02:06] <kbrooks> So how do I enablee this?
[02:07] <kbrooks> anyone willing to help?
[02:08] <kbrooks> THERE?
[02:09] <emonkey> sorry no idea
[02:09] <inope> kde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?
[02:12] <kbrooks> emonkey: no idea?!?
[02:12] <kbrooks> ...
[02:21] <coachJ> getting this message from adept You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[02:21] <coachJ> how do i kill that process?
[02:22] <Philip5> kbrooks: look here: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NumLock?highlight=%28lock%29%7C%28num%29
[02:22] <coachJ> k
[02:23] <Emess> coachJ: i got teh same error, try dpkg --configure -a
[02:23] <coachJ> will that kill the process
[02:23] <coachJ> the link was for num lock
[02:24] <emonkey> coachJ, the link was for kbrooks not for you ;)
[02:24] <Emess> it wont kill the process but it will open up dpkg for you
[02:25] <Emess> udo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[02:25] <Emess> +s
[02:25] <Emess> that should kill adept
[02:25] <exceswater> hey pplz
[02:25] <exceswater> why is nobody on offtopic ?
[02:26] <coachJ> trying
[02:28] <cox377> is anyone having probs with there resolution
[02:28] <cox377> because i just worked out how to force it upto 1280 and it feels like a million bucks in comparison
[02:29] <coachJ> oops
[02:29] <coachJ> now adept wont start
[02:32] <zblach> hi. quick question. embedded webcams. how can I use 'em?
[02:33] <zblach> easycam doesn't like it
[02:36] <cox377> god damn.. 1280 feels good
[02:38] <Healot> 1600x1200?
[02:38] <Healot> I am seeing little things
[02:39] <|lostbyte|> I am on 1280..
[02:40] <omeow> I'm on 2560x1024
[02:40] <|lostbyte|> i can see up to 3 windows at once.
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> 1280 and i have everything maximised
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> cept kopete
[02:40] <Tommy2k4> and kaffeine
[02:40] <[GuS] > Hi People!
[02:40] <|lostbyte|> :)
[02:41] <[GuS] > one question, how could i compile a dev package (excample tcl8.5-dev) and then making it .deb for ubuntu or kubuntu? I allready searched, but i did't found for dev packages
[02:42] <Healot> !find tcl
[02:42] <ubotu> Found: expect-tcl8.3, libdb4.2-tcl, libdb4.3-tcl, libpgtcl-dev, libpgtcl1.5 (and 81 others)
[02:42] <[GuS] > ?
[02:43] <[GuS] > someone? i want to package tcl8.5/tk8.5 for kubuntu... but also the dev ones.
[02:43] <Healot> tcl8.3-dev >>
[02:44] <[GuS] > Healot,  ?
[02:44] <Healot> tk8.4-dev >>
[02:44] <Healot> those the lastest in the repos
[02:44] <[GuS] > Healot,  you did't read my question do you?....
[02:44] <Healot> yes
[02:45] <[GuS] > i think no.
[02:45] <Healot> read it. but i don't .... . ....
[02:46] <[GuS] > i waqnt to package a .deb for Kubuntu. The package is tcl8.5/tk8.5. i allready did the binaries (.debs) but now i need to build tcl8.5/tk8.5-dev (.debs packages too)
[02:46] <Healot> you do know how to build a package right?
[02:46] <[GuS] > yes
[02:47] <Healot> do you know how to configure that debian/rules file?
[02:47] <[GuS] > for binaries yes... i don know if i must change something for -dev
[02:47] <[GuS] > i did't find yet a doc for that
[02:48] <Healot> you know how to list the files for the binaries right?
[02:48] <Healot> [GuS] : are you using checkinstall or de*?
[02:48] <[GuS] > nop
[02:48] <[GuS] > debhelper
[02:49] <wily> hi guys
[02:49] <wily> how can i locate an hotspot?
[02:49] <wily> what is application ?
[02:50] <|lostbyte|> wily, kwifimanager
[02:50] <wily> |lostbyte|: ok
[02:50] <alyle> 
[02:50] <wily> do u know wifi way?
[02:50] <wily> tell me...
[02:51] <wily> i locate a wifi hotspot
[02:51] <Healot> wo men hao, alyle
[02:51] <|lostbyte|> wily, wifi-radar too is good.
[02:51] <Healot> !zh
[02:51] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:51] <alyle> oh,thanks
[02:51] <|lostbyte|> wily, huh ?
[02:51] <[GuS] > i really need this.. and i don't know how :(. I am making the deb package for amsn 0.96 but usign tcl8.5/tk8.5.. so in buildep i need tcl8.5-dev/tk8.5-dev
[02:52] <wily> i found a protected wifi spot
[02:52] <wily> is correct this?
[02:52] <Healot> [GuS] : I couldn't find that either, man debhelper for deeper digging into that debian/rules file setting
[02:52] <wily> launch airsnort
[02:52] <wily> take wep key
[02:52] <wily> and after?
[02:52] <[GuS] > yep.. i am reading that, with no luck.. thankls anyway :)
[02:52] <|lostbyte|> Argh ! you want to hack ?
[02:53] <wily> no, mmmm yes!
[02:53] <Healot> not a developer myself... how about you compile amsn with the ubuntu tcl/tk instead?
[02:53] <wily> i change my notebook
[02:53] <wily> and i lost all parameters to access into university's lan
[02:54] <wily> for a little i must to hack
[02:54] <wily> i'm out of there
[02:54] <[GuS] > Healot, yeah.. but i will use 8.5 vers
[02:54] <[GuS] > thats why
[02:54] <Healot> just ask the administrator?
[02:54] <|lostbyte|> wily, ^
[02:54] <Healot> it doesn;t hurt if you ask
[02:55] <wily> i've just done it
[02:55] <wily> but i don't remember the way
[02:55] <wily> shit!
[02:55] <wily> i remeber that i launched airsnort
[02:56] <wily> after whit wep key
[02:56] <wily> |lostbyte|: after i must to use aircrack?
[02:56] <wily> i don't remember
[02:56] <fek> my konsole background is no more transparent *wine*
[02:56] <fek> *cry*
[02:56] <|lostbyte|> wily, yes.
[02:56] <fek> _why_?! :(
[02:57] <|lostbyte|> wily, on the ivs file.
[02:57] <wily> |lostbyte|: i don't undestand
[02:57] <Alelasquez> Hello
[02:57] <wily> Healot: administrator is out for two weeks!
[02:58] <[GuS] > well.. i will download tcl8.4-dev source to look into debian conf files :)
[02:58] <wily> |lostbyte|: do u have some guide about?
[02:58] <wily> or some url?
[02:59] <|lostbyte|> wily, google for aitcrack-ng.. good luck..
[02:59] <|lostbyte|> aircrack-ng*
[03:00] <wily> thank you
[03:00] <Healot> wily: ask your friend who have access?
[03:00] <wily> yes all are using win.....ds
[03:01] <wily> and if i lauch cmd from their laptop
[03:01] <|lostbyte|> wily, does'nt matter, all you need is one key..
[03:01] <wily> >:(
[03:01] <wily> that is ivs?
[03:01] <Healot> ask for the key, wily, and add the key to your wifi settings
[03:01] <wily> ok
[03:02] <wily> and i let dhcp or i must assing an ip?
[03:02] <Healot> depends on the network setting?
[03:02] <Healot> for a university access, mostly DHCP
[03:02] <coachJ> can someone tell me how to kill a process running in the background?
[03:02] <wily> thank guys i save me the life
[03:02] <Healot> ask your friends the settings
[03:02] <wily> i must to finish my thesis
[03:02] <Healot> kill it coachJ
[03:03] <Healot> literally "kill <pid>
[03:03] <omeow> coachJ: Open ksysguard
[03:03] <coachJ> opening
[03:04] <mak> kubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso <- is it the Live CD?
[03:04] <coachJ> the app is adept or something because it wont let me update says already runnuni
[03:04] <coachJ> what do i look for?
[03:04] <wily> mak: is both live and complete operating system
[03:04] <Healot> mak: yes.. it is the liveCD
[03:04] <mak> thanks
[03:04] <omeow> coachJ: yeah, it's named adept in that list of processes.
[03:05] <omeow> click it and then click on kill
[03:05] <coachJ> say only thing running is notifer
[03:05] <omeow> adept_notifier you mean?
[03:05] <coachJ> yes
[03:05] <omeow> Yeah, that's a program that looks for updates, and it can also be the cause of your database lock.
[03:06] <franz_> I'm running a kubuntu live cd on a pc with a brand new, unformatted hdd. How can I prepare my hdd for installation?
[03:06] <omeow> Try killing it and starting adept again.
[03:06] <larson9999> mouse issues?  the upgrade anouncer thing says a new xorg moust thing is ready
[03:06] <coachJ> ok
[03:07] <coachJ> nope get same message
[03:07] <omeow> Which message exactly?
[03:07] <coachJ> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[03:07] <omeow> And what happens when you run sudo apt-get update in a console?
[03:07] <omeow> (close adept again when you're going to do that)
[03:07] <coachJ> this could be it aptitude
[03:07] <coachJ> maybe not
[03:08] <coachJ> ill see
[03:08] <omeow> Well, if aptitude is running, then it's most likely aptitude.
[03:08] <coachJ> is tha acpid in the sys gueard?
[03:09] <omeow> No, that's a service. Nothing related to aptitude I think.
[03:10] <franz_> I'm running a kubuntu live cd on a pc with a brand new, unformatted hdd. How can I prepare my hdd for installation?
[03:10] <coachJ> apt-get sems to be working
[03:10] <omeow> No errors?
[03:10] <omeow> franz_: the installer should take care of all that, just select that drive so it gets installed to that.
[03:10] <omeow> The installer should also detect your windows drive and add that to the boot menu.
[03:10] <coachJ> it went to all the repos
[03:10] <franz_> omeow: ok
[03:11] <omeow> You don't have to do any partitioning or formatting if you don't want to. It can automatically do all that stuff for you.
[03:11] <franz_> i know omeow. but i never installed on a new hdd before
[03:11] <coachJ> no it failed
[03:11] <omeow> Oh ok. :)
[03:11] <omeow> What's the error?
[03:12] <Dannilion> it's easiest to install on a new hdd, franz_
[03:12] <coachJ> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[03:12] <omeow> Do so.
[03:12] <Raito> Where is a good place to find window 'color schemes'? Window decorations would also be nice.
[03:12] <omeow> Prefix with sudo though, it'll most likely require root access.
[03:12] <coachJ> just as shown
[03:12] <omeow> Raito: http://kde-look.org/
[03:12] <Dannilion> kde-look.org has a lot of stuff on it
[03:12] <Raito> thanks
[03:13] <Dannilion> That's where I got my Tux Kmenu icon from :)
[03:13] <iBrood> Hello, can someome help me with an installation problem? My installation icon wont respond.
[03:15] <Dannilion> iBrood, have you tried selecting it from the menu?
[03:15] <iBrood> niether the one on the menu, nor the desktop icon work
[03:16] <coachJ> omeow---it worked thks!!!!!
[03:16] <omeow> You're welcome.
[03:17] <Raito> Where in Konqueror is the setting to change whether you open files with one click or two clicks?
[03:17] <omeow> It's not in there actually.
[03:17] <omeow> It's in System Settings => Mouse
[03:17] <inope> kde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?
[03:18] <inope> omeow: do you mean you have an answer?
[03:18] <iBrood> Dannilion:
[03:18] <inope> Raito: peripherals / mouse
[03:18] <iBrood> Dannilion:niether the one on the menu, nor the desktop icon work
[03:18] <inope> Raito: weird, huh?
[03:19] <Dannilion> hummm
[03:20] <Raito> ok
[03:22] <[GuS] > hey guys
[03:22] <Yen> lo
[03:22] <[GuS] > when i am execute pbuilder... at the end i get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17161
[03:22] <[GuS] > for some reason could not make the .deb package :S
[03:23] <[GuS] > mmm i think i know why..
[03:23] <Yen> is it possible to write to that place?
[03:24] <Hobbsee> crimsun: ping?
[03:30] <Tommy2k4> could bluefish get any laggier at editing a 5kb file!?
[03:30] <gidna> eh
[03:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> probebly
[03:31] <omeow> kkkkate!
[03:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> so
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> I have this wireless card
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> and I know how ndiswrapper works
[03:32] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: model of the wireless card?
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> and it works fine on gnome
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> pmcia
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> pcmcia*
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> bcmwl5 driver
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> but
[03:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> it fails to work in kde
[03:33] <thomas> how long does it take if it 'may take a long time' to build internal kernel modules
[03:34] <thomas> it goes on for about an hour now...
[03:34] <gidna> Hi
[03:34] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: is it interfaced, and what is the alias ( sudo iwconfig)?
[03:35] <gidna> I have a problem with my printer
[03:35] <gidna> pixma canon ip1600
[03:35] <SonicChao> Hello, I run KDE from Ubuntu's "Select Session" and would like to know if I what I do to one, would apply to the other
[03:35] <Vliegendehuiskat> abattoir, give me a few
[03:35] <SonicChao> You know, the session manager.
[03:35] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: take your time ;)
[03:36] <SonicChao> I did it with "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[03:36] <gidna> can anybody help me?
[03:36] <omeow> Not untill you say what the problem is.
[03:36] <omeow> *until
[03:37] <Vliegendehuiskat> abattoir, its at eth1
[03:37] <gidna> the printer runs with turboprint software
[03:37] <Vliegendehuiskat> that should be wlan0
[03:37] <gidna> baut print aslo a logo..
[03:37] <Vliegendehuiskat> so how am I gonna fix that
[03:37] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: are you sure that bcm43xx driver included with the kernel is not loaded before ndiswrapper?
[03:37] <kubuntu_> wow, kubuntu live cd seems very impressive
[03:37] <gidna> I have to pay 30$ to turboprint If i don't want the logo
[03:37] <Jack1> hi
[03:37] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: i suspect that is the case
[03:37] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: do a
[03:38] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: dmesg | grep bcm43xx
[03:38] <Jack1> does someone know how to lay an image in the middle of another background image in gimp?thx
[03:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> [17179591.848000]  bcm43xx driver
[03:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> [17179593.412000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode2.fw" not available or load failed.
[03:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> [17179593.416000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode2.fw" not available or load failed.
[03:39] <gidna> omeow: can you help me?
[03:39] <jmichaelx> Vliegendehuiskat: i like your name LOL
[03:39] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: the dapper kernel includes an open source version of the Broadcom driver...
[03:39] <inope> kde unsets my LD_PRELOAD env variable for many KDE apps (but not for non-kde apps). is this a known issue? how do i solve this?
[03:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> but its an asus card :p
[03:39] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: you can either choose to use that, or override that and use ndiswrapper
[03:39] <jmichaelx> Vliegendehuiskat: what kind of computer do you have?
[03:39] <jmichaelx> ahh
[03:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> this one is a laptop
[03:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> so abattoir
[03:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> lets try to use that kernel driver
[03:40] <jmichaelx> i just bought a dell laptop yesterday with a broadcom wireless card in it
[03:40] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: i think it is just branded Asus, bcmwl5 is a broadcom driver ;)
[03:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> nah
[03:40] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: one sec
[03:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> this laptop uses an pcmcia card :p
[03:40] <jmichaelx> Vliegendehuiskat: it probably still has a broadcom chipset
[03:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> prolly
[03:41] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29#head-b3e888974e3f23d9367ca6f2f32edcb3764613a5,
[03:41] <thomas> regarding the building of kernel modules - is there a way to find out how much are already built and how much are still have to be build?
[03:41] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: 1.2 is what you should be looking at :)
[03:42] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: i dont know the exact procedure as i chose to continue using ndiswrapper
[03:43] <BKaj> Howdy all experts on dvd shrink installation without using wine !
[03:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> abattoir,
[03:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> lets switch to ndiswrapper
[03:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> this requires things that I don't have
[03:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> like
[03:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> a new set of firmware
[03:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> and they are not on the site either
[03:44] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: what i do is 'quick and dirty' but it works for me nonetheless...
[03:45] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: you are supposed to blacklist the bcm43xx module...
[03:45] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: but that didnt work for me, instead i decided to delete the entire module...
[03:45] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[03:45] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> the power led is on now
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> by the use of ndis
[03:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> but the problem i run into now (and earlyer) is that i can't configure the card
[03:47] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: you mean you cant set essid, encryption key etc.?
[03:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> no
[03:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> i can set all those things
[03:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> but as soon as i click activate it switches off immediately
[03:48] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: you use wlassistant?
[03:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> now what?
[03:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> wait a few
[03:48] <abattoir> i.e Wireless Assistant
[03:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> no I didn't
[03:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> but the card seems to work now
[03:48] <Emess> why would anyonme use that? you want knetwork-manager
[03:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> Emess,
[03:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> it works through that now
[03:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> don't know why?
[03:49] <sensei> Emess: Because it works for most people? :)
[03:49] <abattoir> Emess: i thought that came default w/ dapper...?
[03:49] <Emess> network-manager gets it to auto connect to networks you want as well as browse for ones around you, liek the windows wlan list
[03:49] <BKaj> traceroute cmd is not found ...WTF ?
[03:50] <Emess> nope, its an apt-get fromt he suse repos
[03:50] <Hobbsee> Emess: it what???
[03:52] <abattoir> Emess: apt-get from suse repos?
[03:52] <abattoir> Emess: you used alien to convert the rpm?
[03:52] <Emess> yup
[03:53] <Emess> although i think it might be available in adept now
[03:53] <abattoir> oh, ok
[03:54] <VHK> abattoir,
[03:54] <VHK> thanx
[03:54] <VHK> it works
[03:54] <VHK> even on reboot
[03:54] <BKaj> anyone have dvd shrink installed in dapper ?
[03:54] <VHK> that section 1,1 did the trick
[03:55] <abattoir> VHK: cool :)
[03:55] <VHK> yes Vliegendehuiskat did pingout :P
[03:55] <VHK> but it works
[03:55] <VHK> alltough
[03:55] <VHK> I need some ice cooling to keep using it :p
[03:55] <Jack1> how did u install it ? dvd shrink?
[03:55] <Jack1> do u need wine?
[03:56] <VHK> hm
[03:56] <VHK> Jack1,
[03:56] <VHK> that brings me to another question
[03:56] <BKaj> I'm trying to avoid using wine
[03:56] <VHK> I have been looking for somethin like a VM on ubuntu
[03:56] <VHK> so not wine :P
[03:56] <Jack1> ok
[03:57] <BKaj> I don't have dvd shrink installed, that's why I'm asking
[03:57] <abattoir> VHK: you can use VMWare Player or QEmu
[03:57] <VHK> ok
[03:57] <VHK> where to grab it :p
[03:57] <larson9999> BKaj: i have dvdshrink installed
[03:57] <abattoir> VHK: qemu should be in the official repos
[03:58] <VHK> ok
[03:58] <abattoir> VHK: there is a qemu accelerator which is not open source but free...
[03:58] <VHK> and vmware player?
[03:58] <abattoir> from vmware.com ;)
[03:58] <abattoir> wait a sec :)
[03:59] <BKaj> larson9999: how did you install it ?
[03:59] <abattoir> VHK: http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
[03:59] <larson9999> BKaj: need wine and then it installs like regular windows program.
[04:00] <BKaj> why wine larson9999 , is there another way ?
[04:00] <abattoir> VHK: there is tar version here http://www.vmware.com/download/player/
[04:00] <VHK> abattoir,
[04:00] <VHK> thanx :P
[04:00] <abattoir> VHK: no problem :)
[04:01] <larson9999> it used to be a two step process of creating and iso from the dvd and then having dvdsrink shrink it because it wouldn't recognize cd dvd drive.  now it does but i haven't tried shrinking straight from the dvd
[04:01] <VHK> ow and in the half year that i have been at (K)ubuntu
[04:01] <larson9999> BKaj: cause it's a windows program.
[04:01] <BKaj> if I need wine , it's too late isn't it ? I didn't take the option when I installed dapper
[04:01] <VHK> I havn't been able to figure out how i can make .pps things play sounds
[04:01] <VHK> but I couldn't get that to work on debian either :p
[04:01] <larson9999> BKaj: no, it's not too late you can still install wine
[04:02] <BKaj> ok larson9999 , thru synaptic or adept ?
[04:02] <abattoir> VHK: .pps?
[04:02] <Pupeno_> Hello.
[04:02] <VHK> powerpoint presentations
[04:02] <VHK> in MS office :P
[04:02] <larson9999> BKaj: yep
[04:02] <Pupeno_> My Thinkpad T60 has this card: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 7149. How do I know which card is it exactly ?
[04:03] <abattoir> VHK: doesnt work with OpenOffice and KOffice ?
[04:03] <VHK> nop
[04:04] <BKaj> i don't see it either one , larson9999 :(
[04:05] <larson9999> BKaj: oh, maybe i got it from the site
[04:05] <canihojr> buenas
[04:05] <larson9999> BKaj: yep, the site has ubuntu deb for download
[04:06] <VHK> brb
[04:06] <VHK> switching to cat5 again
[04:06] <VHK> I don't like hotplugging
[04:06] <BKaj> ok larson9999 , URL ?
[04:06] <VHK> and that card is getting really hot today cause its hot in here :P
[04:06] <larson9999> http://www.winehq.com/site/download
[04:06] <larson9999> for bk
[04:07] <jyogi> Hello. I need help with sagem 3200 (know as livebox). I use wifi to connect to it, installed apache2 and apropriate packages. I made account on mydns but I don't know how to make other users to see my site
[04:10] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Why not just apt-get install wine ?
[04:10] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to exclude the kubuntu usplash qwhen installing kubuntu-desktop from gnome
[04:10] <Hawkwind> BKaj: Seems you don't have all your sources enabled
[04:11] <canihojr> jyogi you open the ports? (sorry for my english, im spanish..)
[04:12] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: i couldnt find anything, but i think konverter can convert .pps to .avi
[04:12] <jyogi> canihojr i must say i don't know. where to check it (no problem, i'm polish:) )
[04:12] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[04:12] <abattoir> but it wouldnt be lossless, proprietary formats :-\
[04:12] <Vliegendehuiskat> i still have to try somuch :P
[04:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm on kubuntu fot half a year :P
[04:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> an before that i was using debian as server
[04:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> but as main os windows
[04:14] <Vliegendehuiskat> so i'm a n00b
[04:14] <canihojr> you dont need create account for your dns.... check whith any friend, got the IP and he can view your web.......
[04:14] <Emess> meh
[04:14] <Emess> iv only been using kubuntu for 8 months...
[04:14] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[04:14] <Emess> although i used slackware for 8 years and mandrake for 2 bwefore that :P
[04:14] <Vliegendehuiskat> uhm
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> lol
[04:15] <Emess> been using linux since i was 6 years old :D
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> 2 years ago i didn't knew how to use other os'es
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> redhat
[04:15] <Vliegendehuiskat> but that sucks :P
[04:16] <Emess> my first linux was redhat, and i saw gnome adn went ewww, so i installed mandrake 7
[04:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> and i have been at computers since i was 3
[04:16] <Emess> and loved it
[04:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> with dos commands :P
[04:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> but i'm only 17 :P
[04:17] <Emess> lol, my desktop comp for a loong time was OpenBSD
[04:17] <dr_willis> i got computers older then that.
[04:17] <thompa> i need to reinstall windos on the partition here, how can i restore grub afterwards?
[04:17] <Emess> so? me too lol
[04:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> :)
[04:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> hehehehe
[04:17] <xwolf-> !recover
[04:17] <ubotu> I know nothing about recover
[04:17] <xwolf-> hm. you do.
[04:17] <larson9999> my youngest will be able to say he's had his own computer since he was 1.  :) he's 5 now and boy is he good
[04:17] <xwolf-> !grub
[04:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:17] <Emess> thompa: i did that the otehr day and completely forgot now lol
[04:17] <xwolf-> thompa there you go /\
[04:17] <thompa> thanks
[04:17] <xwolf-> np
[04:18] <thompa> im getting weird error in XP, unable to write delay
[04:18] <Emess> my kids are gonna grow up in Open or Desktop BSd and wont be allowed to use linux till theyr 15 :)
[04:18] <thompa> in ubuntu i got no nvidia logo, but glx is working which is strange
[04:18] <SonicChao> Emess: That's rediculious
[04:18] <larson9999> emess my kids can use anything that's foss.
[04:18] <SkrotFFS> Are there kubuntu packages for amarok 1.4.1 yet? Dying to try last.fm radio and don't want to compile it ;)
[04:19] <jyogi> my provider doesn't have option for static ip, I have dynamic assigned IP, so I use an option in Livebox, mydns. Problem is that when I use 127.0.0.1 my site seems working but when I use myadrr.homedns.org I get the panel administration of livebox and when my friend tries to connect with this addy he can't
[04:19] <larson9999> SkrotFFS: what's last.fm radio?
[04:19] <SonicChao> SkrotFFS: Use XMMS
[04:19] <Emess> SonicChao: why is it ridiculous?
[04:19] <SkrotFFS> larson9999: You register at www.last.fm and submit info about what you listen to, and last.fm can generate a webradio for your taste in music :)
[04:20] <SkrotFFS> SonicChao: No thanks. :)
[04:20] <Hobbsee> SkrotFFS: not 1.4.1 quite yet, no
[04:20] <larson9999> SkrotFFS: oh, my taste is talk.  is that an option?
[04:20] <SonicChao> SkrotFFS: LOL...seem to like amaroK do we?
[04:20] <SkrotFFS> SonicChao: Love is more accurate ;)
[04:20] <SonicChao> SkrotFFS: Mine too
[04:20] <canihojr> jyogi use any programs howto no-ip? no-ip.org ?? if you mount one srv of dns, your friend must configurating this srv of dns in her network config.......
[04:21] <Vliegendehuiskat> just use no-ip.org
[04:21] <SonicChao> Emess: would you honestly try to teach your kids FreeBSD?
[04:21] <Vliegendehuiskat> they have good support
[04:21] <SonicChao> Emess: And how to install XWindows Systems?
[04:21] <Emess> not freebsd no, Open
[04:21] <Emess> free isnt secure enough :P
[04:21] <SonicChao> Emess: Or would KDE also be not aloud?
[04:21] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[04:21] <SonicChao> Emess: If they could figure it out, would you let them use KDE?
[04:21] <towercat> I have a question about the kubuntu 6.06 livedvd, does having no sound during the livedvd mean I won't have sound if I'd choose to install it?
[04:21] <Vliegendehuiskat> well I would be using openbsd soon i think
[04:21] <Emess> i tought my sister to compile, install X, and code tcl when she was 6
[04:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> as soon as vista comes out and wpa is a fact
[04:22] <Emess> besuides, DesktopBSD comes with KDE already
[04:22] <SonicChao> Emess: Answer the question. For OpenBSD
[04:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> there will be to much people using linux and especially ubuntu
[04:22] <Emess> not really, id make them use xfce or e16
[04:23] <dr_willis> icewm
[04:23] <dr_willis> :)
[04:23] <SonicChao> Emess: Well at least you're letting them use X Windows ;)
[04:23] <Emess> ice is hot, i use it on vector
[04:23] <SonicChao> :D
[04:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> to much projects on school to experiment :p
[04:24] <SkrotFFS> KDE fulltime for 4-5 years now =)
[04:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> but school's over :p
[04:24] <jyogi> you don't seem to understand me. Sagem 3200 has built in application to update site. I use already account at www.dyndns.org. The problem is (I think) that my server stands behind this modem(router) and noone can connect to it.
[04:24] <SonicChao> Vliegendehuiskat: I have 3 desktop managers on my Ubuntu...
[04:24] <SonicChao> XFCE, GNOME and KDE...
[04:24] <SonicChao> I pick whatever one I want in "Select Session"
[04:24] <SonicChao> :P
[04:24] <Vliegendehuiskat> to big
[04:25] <wily> hi all
[04:25] <larson9999> i haven't settled on a desktop.  i do kinda like kde
[04:25] <SkrotFFS> Gnome too big?
[04:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> my screen at this laptop is only 1024*786
[04:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> yes gnome is to big
[04:25] <SonicChao> larson9999: Me neither, that's why I use them all....:)
[04:25] <SkrotFFS> I've always been under the impression that KDE's widgets are a tad larger than others?
[04:25] <canihojr> jyogi your router port 80 is open ?? you need redirect this port for your pc.....
[04:25] <Vliegendehuiskat> on kde I can put more on my screen :p
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> oh yeah
[04:26] <larson9999> the only thing i've decided is i HATE gnome
[04:26] <jyogi> It seems to have it open
[04:26] <SonicChao> Vliegendehuiskat: Well, what do you think of XFCE?
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> does anyone know how i can get rid of that amarok splash screen?
[04:26] <SonicChao> larson9999: U too
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm gonna try it soon
[04:26] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: did you have kubuntu-default-settings installed?
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> have been to busy last day's
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> uhm
[04:26] <Vliegendehuiskat> dunno
[04:27] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: do you have kubuntu-desktop metapackage installed?
[04:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> yup
[04:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> its installed
[04:27] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: hmmm...okay then.
[04:27] <Hobbsee> interseting
[04:27] <Vliegendehuiskat> default settings and kubutu desktop :p
[04:27] <larson9999> Hawkwind: in this early stage how do you think ubuntu compares to mandriva?
[04:28] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to exclude the kubuntu usplash qwhen installing kubuntu-desktop from gnome
[04:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> uhm
[04:28] <gnomefreak> monomaniacpat: you can chage it after you install kubuntu-desktop
[04:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> mark the kubuntu-desktop thing
[04:28] <Vliegendehuiskat> and then unmark the splash
[04:28] <monomaniacpat> yers
[04:29] <monomaniacpat> what is the splash called?
[04:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> dunno
[04:29] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm not annoyed with it :p
[04:29] <gnomefreak> usplash artwork i thought but dont remember
[04:29] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: type "kdesu write /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc" and change Show Splashscreen=true to Show Splashscreen=false
[04:30] <monomaniacpat> Hobbsee: I don't want to get rid of the amarok splash, if that's what you're thinking
[04:30] <gnomefreak> monomaniacpat: usplash
[04:31] <wily> join in chanell #kubuntu.it
[04:31] <Hobbsee> monomaniacpat: er, i addressed that to Vliegendehuiskat about their earlier annoyance with the amarok splash
[04:31] <wily> per tutti gli italiani venite in #kubuntu.it
[04:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> Show Splashscreen=false
[04:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> its alredy that
[04:31] <Vliegendehuiskat> :S
[04:31] <abattoir> Hobbsee: does kubuntu-default-settings override the option in amarokrc?
[04:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> and still the amarok 1.4 splash shows up
[04:32] <Hobbsee> abattoir: ah, in which amarokrc?
[04:32] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: yeah, but then you can disable it from tools, options
[04:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> yes I did that
[04:32] <Vliegendehuiskat> but that doesn't work either
[04:32] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: what about Settings->Configure Amarok->General-> Show splash screen?
[04:33] <Vliegendehuiskat> thats unchecked
[04:33] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: okay, so it didnt overwrite.  do the same for "kate /home/USER/.kde/share/config/amarokrc"
[04:34] <Hawkwind> larson9999: Terrific so far.  I don't foresee myself going back to Mandriva as my main OS
[04:35] <Vliegendehuiskat> uhm
[04:35] <Vliegendehuiskat> there the option is missing :S
[04:36] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: under [General Options]  Show Splashscreen=false
[04:36] <Vliegendehuiskat> its not there
[04:36] <Vliegendehuiskat> added
[04:37] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: close amarok completely, edit the file, save it, open amarok
[04:37] <Vliegendehuiskat> hmhm
[04:37] <Vliegendehuiskat> did that
[04:37] <os2mac> is there a way through the GUI to modfy /etc/rc2.d or /etc/rc0.d
[04:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> fixed
[04:38] <ajus> where can i get multiverse sourcelist ?
[04:38] <Vliegendehuiskat> not fixed :S
[04:39] <ajus> i can't play mp3 :(
[04:39] <sensei> !mp3
[04:39] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:39] <Vliegendehuiskat> hm
[04:40] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: is the option still there in the amarokrc file? or has it gone?
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> that amarok config change works for one time only :S
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> nope
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> it has gone again
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> everytime
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> it works once
[04:40] <Vliegendehuiskat> after that it disappears
[04:40] <ajus> sensei: i don't have multiverse in my sources.list where can i get?
[04:41] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: amarok probably overwrites the file when it shuts down
[04:41] <Vliegendehuiskat> yup it does
[04:41] <Vliegendehuiskat> so.....
[04:41] <Vliegendehuiskat> tis seems to be a buggie?
[04:41] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: try enabling it, editing the file, disabling it and editing the file
[04:41] <abattoir> if you understand what i mean :P
[04:42] <ajus> !sources.list
[04:42] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:42] <Vliegendehuiskat> hmhm
[04:42] <Vliegendehuiskat> i see it
[04:42] <Vliegendehuiskat> the option appears
[04:42] <os2mac> anyone?
[04:42] <Vliegendehuiskat> but
[04:42] <Vliegendehuiskat> that also works once :S
[04:43] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: but is the checkbox still not ticked(in the settings)?
[04:43] <Vliegendehuiskat> hmhm
[04:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> and now it takes ages to load amarok
[04:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> it crashes
[04:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> and the splash is back again
[04:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> and i'm like
[04:44] <Vliegendehuiskat> wtf?
[04:45] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: did you by mistake add something else to the amarokrc file?
[04:45] <Vliegendehuiskat> no
[04:46] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: my suggestion would be to close amarok, delete amarokrc and the open amarok... but you would lose *ALL* your settings...
[04:46] <abattoir> if that
[04:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> I even deleted it a few mins ago to get a new file
[04:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> but
[04:46] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: oh, then i guess it *is* a bug :P
[04:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> it is
[04:46] <Vliegendehuiskat> but the general file
[04:46] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: using the one that came default w/ dapper?
[04:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> yup
[04:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc
[04:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> in that file I deleted the option that says false
[04:47] <Vliegendehuiskat> and now the bug is gone
[04:47] <abattoir> Vliegendehuiskat: i somehow have a feeling that this is due to 'kubuntu-default-settings' messing something up :-\
[04:48] <abattoir> aah, ok
[04:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> so am I
[04:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> but now we have the answer
[04:48] <Hobbsee> give me a sec, before more bug talk about this.
[04:48] <Vliegendehuiskat> sudo kate /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde-profile/default/share/config/amarokrc
[04:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> and remove the line "Show Splashscreen=false"
[04:49] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: bleh.  and that fully fixes it?
[04:49] <Vliegendehuiskat> yup
[04:49] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: which version of kubuntu-default-settings are you using?  the latest dapper?
[04:49] <Hobbsee> apt-cache show kubuntu-default-settings
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Package: kubuntu-default-settings
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Priority: optional
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Section: kde
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Installed-Size: 3080
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Maintainer: Jonathan Riddell <jriddell@ubuntu.com>
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Architecture: all
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Version: 1:6.06-22
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Depends: kde-style-lipstik, kdm, ksplash-engine-moodin, kwin-style-crystal
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Filename: pool/main/k/kubuntu-default-settings/kubuntu-default-settings_6.06-22_all.deb
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Size: 2017766
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> MD5sum: e867f68758afa9b8f7b5633e5c5c77fd
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Description: Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat>  This package contains the default settings used by Kubuntu.  It also
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat>  includes artwork and Kubuntu branding.
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Bugs: mailto:ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Origin: Ubuntu
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Task: kubuntu-desktop
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Package: kubuntu-default-settings
[04:50] <Hobbsee> argh!!!!
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Priority: optional
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Section: kde
[04:50] <Kamping_Kaiser> Vliegendehuiskat, dont flood
[04:50] <Vliegendehuiskat> Installed-Size: 3068
[04:50] <Hobbsee> DONT PASTE IN HERE PLEASE1!!!!!
[04:50] <abattoir> !paste
[04:50] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <Hobbsee> i asked for the version, not the entire damned pastebin.
[04:51] <Vliegendehuiskat> sorry
[04:51] <Vliegendehuiskat> forgot to add that version number parameter
[04:51] <Hobbsee> [00:50]  <Vliegendehuiskat> Version: 1:6.06-22 was all i needed
[04:51] <Hobbsee> Riddell: why'd you forget to stick my patch in?
[04:51] <Pupeno> How can I make Kubuntu generate an xorg.conf file like the one it generated when I installed it for the first time ?
[04:52] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[04:52] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Pupeno: ^
[04:52] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: heh
[04:52] <Hobbsee> hmmm.
[04:52] <Emess> confgix?
[04:52] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok Hobbsee
[04:52] <xwolf-> !xgl
[04:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:53] <peoklis> whats the best text editor or word processor? I want it to have, aspell spell checker, rectangular text sellection, autocorrect, autocomplete, regex - apart from openoffice, ms word and abi
[04:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> if that option is in the overall config file... it doesn't work
[04:53] <Vliegendehuiskat> should I add it to the launchpad?
[04:54] <Vliegendehuiskat> Hobbsee, or just leave it :p
[04:55] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: ah, there's a bug already for it, which i think i've marked it as fix commited, come to think of it
[04:56] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[04:56] <Vliegendehuiskat> no update yet :p
[04:56] <Vliegendehuiskat> cause I keep my system updated :P
[04:56] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: because i havent written it yet :P
[04:56] <Hobbsee> and it'll go into edgy, i expect
[04:56] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok :)
[04:57] <Vliegendehuiskat> the next ubuntu version :p
[04:57] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: yeah
[04:58] <Hobbsee> hmmm.
[04:58] <Vliegendehuiskat> its easy to fix :P
[04:58] <Vliegendehuiskat> so why not?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: because dapper-updates is very hard to get thigns thru
[04:59] <Vliegendehuiskat> ?
[04:59] <Vliegendehuiskat> testing and stuff?
[04:59] <Hobbsee> yeah, it's stable.
[05:00] <Vliegendehuiskat> well
[05:00] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm only using stable atm :P
[05:01] <Vliegendehuiskat> but I can't see why that bug should effect anything else
[05:01] <Vliegendehuiskat> but if its in some pakage.... it can do....
[05:01] <Vliegendehuiskat> especially in the deafault settings pakage
[05:01] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: true.  i'm asking about stickign it in.
[05:02] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[05:02] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[05:02] <wily> go to #kubuntu.it
[05:02] <Vliegendehuiskat> and its a bit of a silly update if its only for that
[05:03] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: did you see the interrview with riddell on kubuntu.org?
[05:03] <gnomefreak> about kde in edgy
[05:03] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no i didnt - is it in ogg format, or a transcript?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ogg
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i cant open it
[05:04] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: ah ok, i want a transcript :P
[05:04] <gnomefreak> im wondering if hes trying to get 4.0 in edgy (but everything i see is no)
[05:04] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: no, not a chance.
[05:05] <gnomefreak> didnt think so
[05:05] <Hobbsee> oh for goodness sake.  the solution was in the bug report, and i missed it.
[05:05] <Vliegendehuiskat> 4.0 will take a long time :p
[05:05] <Vliegendehuiskat> so whats it?
[05:05] <Vliegendehuiskat> amarok only writes options to the config files if they are different from the overall config?
[05:06] <jpatrick> gnomefreak: er, yeah
[05:06] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: .4, not .3
[05:06] <gnomefreak> ah oik
[05:06] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: it's "remove the line" - and it may well make it into dapper updates
[05:07] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[05:07] <Vliegendehuiskat> :P
[05:07] <wily> go to #kubuntu.it
[05:07] <Vliegendehuiskat> well that's my first contribution to the (k)ubuntu community :p
[05:08] <gnomefreak> wily: why are you spamming
[05:08] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: :)  you can add yourself to the bottom of bug 125210 saying that removing the line works, if you like, and assign it to hobbsee@kubuntu.org
[05:08] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: your apt dont work?
[05:08] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: it's botched in edgy, yeah.
[05:08] <wily> is not a spam, but if consider it so i'm stopping
[05:08] <wily> sorry
[05:08] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: apt works fine for me its everything else that isnt working lol
[05:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> hehehe no i won't
[05:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> but it doesn't work :p
[05:09] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: pity.  otherwise i'll have to do it, and i'm busy tryign to fix whatever's been broken now.
[05:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> ok
[05:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> nah
[05:09] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'll login
[05:10] <Vliegendehuiskat> but i lost that password again :p
[05:10] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:11] <BKaj> synaptic won't DL wine for dapper from the repository site listed at winehq :(
[05:12] <Pupeno> is the System Settings of Kubuntu able to configure a dual-head X setup ?
[05:13] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: heh, smart
[05:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> heh?
[05:13] <Vliegendehuiskat> I can't find that bug
[05:16] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/42114
[05:16] <Vliegendehuiskat> so did I
[05:17] <Vliegendehuiskat> thanx for the url
[05:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> anyway
[05:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> thanx Hobbsee and abattoir
[05:22] <Vliegendehuiskat> i'm out here again
[05:22] <monomaniacpat> anyone know what the kubuntu splash is called?
[05:22] <Hobbsee> Vliegendehuiskat: see you, i just uploaded that fix
[05:22] <Hobbsee> monomaniacpat: ksplash?
[05:23] <partyvanguy> hay silly question, can anyone tell me how to mount my harddrives under the livedvd, i keep getting some error that they're not in fstab or mtab?
[05:23] <Vliegendehuiskat> Hobbsee, not in my repo's yet (but i'm dutch)
[05:24] <nixternal> Pupeno: yes Ubuntu can run dual head video cards, allowing you to use 2 or more monitors
[05:24] <monomaniacpat> Hobbsee: yes, thanks. How would I exclude it from kubuntu-desktop when installing?
[05:25] <Hobbsee> monomaniacpat: install kubuntu-desktop, then remove ksplash
[05:25] <monomaniacpat> Hobbsee: there isn't a way to exclude it then?
[05:26] <Hobbsee> monomaniacpat: not easily
[05:26] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Do you have an Nvidia card and wanting to setup TwinView ?  If so, I can give you my xorg.conf that might help you
[05:26] <Hobbsee> monomaniacpat: kubuntu-desktop's only a metapackage, you an remove it
[05:26] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: no, this is an ati card and the second monitor goes thru the docking station... hard to get working.
[05:27] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Ohhh, good luck with that
[05:27] <Pupeno> As soon as I specify something for the second monitor, the first one (built in on ibm t60) goes to 640x480. Any ideas ? (the second one doesn't even turn on).
[05:29] <monomaniacpat> Hobbsee: so be it
[05:29] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: I don't touch ATI to save my life.  Too damn difficult to mess with since their drivers aren't exactly open source
[05:30] <PaulioC> Hey guys
[05:30] <Pupeno> Hawkwind: nvidia drivers aren't open source either. I don't buy ati nor nvidia (this notebook was given for job).
[05:30] <PaulioC> quick (hopefully) question here
[05:31] <Adam_eM> hi there
[05:31] <Hawkwind> Pupeno: Nvidia makes them readily avaliable and they can be distributed for free.  They aren't open source but Nvidia does a much better job of making sure theirs work at all times
[05:32] <PaulioC> Attempting to install my Netgear WG11 USB wireless card at the moment. When I type lsusb into the terminal, it shows that it is plugged into bay 1, but it doesn't light up or, work at all.
[05:32] <Adam_eM> why my bootsplash image has reversed colours ?
[05:32] <cox377> lol
[05:32] <Pupeno> personally, they are free or they aren't. I don't like either nvidia nor ati. Some times one works better than the other and then the reverse and the Linux community claims one is more free than the other.
[05:33] <franz_> Installing kubuntu on an empty hdd: I have two questions
[05:33] <vaka> an IntelliMouse is ImPS/2 or ExplorerPS/2?
[05:33] <Pupeno> besides, I believe I am using free drivers (fglrx, aren't they free ?)
[05:34] <jc-denton> hi all
[05:34] <franz_> first: is it normal that the progress bar while formatting the hdd runs to 99% in seconds then stops for minutes ?
[05:34] <PaulioC> Does anyone have a good guide to using ndiswrapper on kubuntu, or will using the ubuntu one work just the same
[05:34] <jc-denton> since i switched to kde i have the strange problem that sound works with external speakers
[05:34] <Hobbsee> PaulioC: you'd need ndiswrapper for that, i expect
[05:34] <jc-denton> but not with the internal ones
[05:35] <Hobbsee> PaulioC: it works the same.  in fact, it is the same
[05:35] <jc-denton> i guess it's a problem with  alsa or so
[05:35] <PaulioC> Thatks Hobbsee
[05:35] <PaulioC> *thanks
[05:35] <jc-denton> also kdm does not start up automatically
[05:35] <jc-denton> but i selected it with dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:35] <jc-denton> i had ubuntu before and installed kubuntu-dekstop then
[05:36] <defrysk> jc-denton, siply removing gdm did the trick for me
[05:36] <defrysk> simply even
[05:36] <PaulioC> ARGH! Sorry, anyone know where i can find ndiswrapper-utils?
[05:37] <Adam_eM> could anyone help me ?
[05:37] <franz_> Is it normal that the progress bar while formatting the hdd runs to 99% in seconds then stops for minutes ? This while installing kubuntu ona new hdd
[05:37] <igweb> hi @all is this a good channel for a network question ?
[05:37] <nixternal> Adam_eM: whats the question?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> PaulioC: on the install cd
[05:37] <PaulioC> really?
[05:37] <PaulioC> great
[05:37] <jyogi> Can someone tell me how to check which ports are blocked and how to unblock certain ports?
[05:37] <PaulioC> so i stick the cd in...
[05:37] <PaulioC> what next?
[05:37] <PaulioC> package manager?
[05:38] <nixternal> yes PaulioC
[05:38] <jc-denton> apt-get remove gdm
[05:38] <defrysk> jc-denton, yup
[05:38] <igweb> have a Laptop here in the 192.168 net with eth0 and eth1 want to connect at eth1 another Lappie and go over eth0 to the net...
[05:38] <nixternal> you could also at a terminal, just do      sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[05:38] <igweb> anywhere a good howto, I`ve googled a lot an searched in some forums but... nothing found what helped me...
[05:39] <Adam_eM> nixternal: i've installed grub-splashimages package and none of it displays when grub starts... except the blue_neon thing. The other splashes gives blank screen or reversed colours
[05:39] <jc-denton> ok but does anybody have an ide what the problem with the sound could be
[05:39] <jc-denton> defrysk: and that looks like a bug for me
[05:39] <nixternal> igweb: if you are talking about using it as a firewall, you could search the ubuntu forums or the wiki
[05:39] <defrysk> jc-denton, nope
[05:39] <jc-denton> cos i had gdm and kdm installed at the same time before
[05:40] <jc-denton> but not under dapper
[05:40] <igweb> I can't get a network connect from eth1 to eth0 with an cross-over cable :(
[05:40] <jc-denton> eth1 is wireless lan here
[05:40] <defrysk> jc-denton, if you install kdm with gdm aready installed you get asked witch dm to use make the right choice and it should also work fine
[05:40] <jc-denton> probably that's the problem :D
[05:40] <Adam_eM> nixternal: well... any idea ?
[05:40] <jc-denton> defrysk: yes but it did not
[05:41] <nixternal> Adam_eM: those are boot splashes...yes..im getting you the info right now
[05:41] <defrysk> jc-denton, you can also do sudo apt-get remove kdm -- purge ; sudo apt-get install kdm
[05:41] <igweb> eth1 is a pcmcia card
[05:41] <jyogi> Can someone tell me how to check which ports are blocked and how to unblock certain ports?
[05:41] <defrysk> to get a frsh kdm
[05:42] <defrysk> jc-denton, if you think its a bug file it  
[05:42] <igweb> inet Adresse:192.168.0.80  Bcast:192.168.0.95  Maske:255.255.255.240   //ifconfig  at eth1
[05:42] <Adam_eM> nixternal: update-grub gives sth like that: found but preserving previous setting: splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz
[05:43] <PaulioC> Ok, I give up
[05:43] <nixternal> hmmm
[05:43] <nixternal> interesting
[05:43] <PaulioC> i have the kubuntu cd in the drive
[05:43] <igweb> inet Adresse:192.168.0.81  Bcast:192.168.0.95  Maske:255.255.255.240  //on eth0 the other Laptop
[05:43] <PaulioC> i have adept ope
[05:43] <franz_> while installing kubuntu on a hdd, it start scopying files and then remains stopped at 52% (progress bar) for about 5 mins and the cd reader still runs.  Then it stops and nothing happens.  Please note that CDs md5 sum was checked before burning and CD was verified after burning without finding errors.  Any clue?
[05:43] <PaulioC> *open
[05:44] <jc-denton> defrysk: apt-get install --reinstall should be enough i think
[05:44] <jc-denton> and i tried that
[05:44] <defrysk> franz_, burn the cd at a slower speed to prevent probs
[05:44] <nixternal> ahhh... Adam_eM, i misread your whole issue..i was thinking usplash for some stooopid reason
[05:44] <defrysk> jc-denton, purging removes the configfiles also
[05:44] <jc-denton> and i think kde is messing with my audio settings
[05:44] <jc-denton> defrysk: yes but it does not even start
[05:44] <jc-denton> so i don't think it's a problem with the config file?
[05:45] <PaulioC> Ok, i am trying to install ndiswrapper-utils, which is supposedly on the disk i used to install. So, i have opened up adept, and i have searched for ndiswrapper, but i am not finding any results
[05:45] <jc-denton> i think kde messed with my audio settings
[05:45] <franz_> defrysk: can't do that! have no working pc at the moment. need to install this kubuntu!
[05:45] <PaulioC> anyone know what's wrong?
[05:45] <jc-denton> the muet button and the vol up/down button does not work
[05:45] <jc-denton> and also when i unplug the external speakers, then inernal should sound
[05:45] <jc-denton> but they are quiet
[05:46] <jc-denton> but i don't know where to start to find out what causes these problemes
[05:46] <franz_> defrysk: anyway, the CD was burnt at half of max speed and verify was on with k3b
[05:46] <franz_> and i got no errors
[05:47] <Pupeno> Ok, I've managed to get both monitors working. Both at the same resolution 1400x1050, but the second one scrolls when I move the pointer up and down (the real resolution is smaller than the virtual one). Both are LCD, the first one is the notebook built in, running at maximum, the second one is a 20" Dell 2001FP which can run much more. Any ideas what might be the problem here ?
[05:47] <defrysk> franz_, then I do not know
[05:47] <jyogi> franz_ maybe there is some hardware conflict. Maybe check install options
[05:47] <igweb> how to set up eth0 and eth1 as diffrent network, or is it a problem to have both in the 192.168.x.x net
[05:48] <franz_> what and where to check jyogi ?
[05:48] <nixternal> Adam_eM: i have good stuff for you
[05:48] <nixternal> are you ready?
[05:49] <jyogi> franz_ on bootscreen when starting CD, there are some options, like noacpi etc. in my case disabling hotplugging worked
[05:49] <PaulioC> Ok, i am trying to install ndiswrapper-utils, which is supposedly on the disk i used to install. So, i have opened up adept, and i have searched for ndiswrapper, but i am not finding any results, anybody here know what i am not doing?
[05:49] <franz_> ok jyogi , thanks
[05:50] <nixternal> ndiswrapper is on universe/multiverse repositories...  !repositories
[05:50] <nixternal> !multiverse
[05:50] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:50] <jyogi> franz_ hope this works :)
[05:50] <franz_> yep
[05:50] <Adam_eM> nixternal: what about it then ?
[05:50] <franz_> going to try
[05:50] <nixternal> Adam_eM: cd /boot/grub
[05:51] <nixternal> Adam_eM: sudo ln -s splashimages/debsplash.xpm.gz splash.xpm.gz
[05:51] <nixternal> Adam_eM: sudo update-grub
[05:51] <PaulioC> anyone?
[05:52] <nixternal> PaulioC: check the multiverse link i had ubotu post
[05:52] <nixternal> holy jesus
[05:52] <Adam_eM> nixternal: can i replace the filename with anything else ?
[05:52] <nixternal> no
[05:52] <nixternal> you shouldn't
[05:53] <Adam_eM> i dont think i have debsplash.xpm.gz there
[05:53] <nixternal> really
[05:53] <Hobbsee> just ignore it.
[05:54] <Adam_eM> nixternal: there are only kubuntu related splashes there
[05:54] <Hobbsee> ah
[05:54] <jc-denton> wtf
[05:54] <tmdx120> Hello room. Im having trouble getting my gtkpod to register my ipod since I upgraded to Dapper. Can anyone help?
[05:54] <jpatrick> ah great they're all different ips...
[05:54] <nixternal> get um guys
[05:54] <PaulioC> oh bloody hell!
[05:54] <hastesaver> Has it been happening all day or is this the first time?
[05:55] <Hobbsee> hastesaver: first time today
[05:55] <PaulioC> can somebody please tell me where i can get ndiswrapper-utils on the nternet?
[05:55] <nixternal> !multiverse
[05:55] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[05:55] <hastesaver> Did it just turn midnight in the USA? Maybe it's the last time too, then, hopefully
[05:55] <nixternal> ^^ PaulioC
[05:55] <nixternal> PaulioC: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper*
[05:56] <PaulioC> will that work though?
[05:56] <PaulioC> as i dont have an internet connection
[05:56] <Adam_eM> nixternal: the debsplash was a part of another splashes package
[05:56] <Hobbsee> PaulioC: yeah, they're on hte cd
[05:56] <PaulioC> thats what i'm trying to set up
[05:56] <nixternal> arg..no it won't work PaulioC
[05:56] <nixternal> Hobbsee: i don't think ndiswrapper is on the cd..i could be wrong though ;)
[05:56] <Hobbsee> nixternal: ndiswrapper-utils is
[05:57] <nixternal> ok
[05:57] <nixternal> that is all you need then
[05:57] <nixternal> Adam_eM: you installed grub-splashimages right?
[05:57] <hastesaver> All the GTK apps look ugly by default in Kubuntu... shouldn't this be regarded a bug?
[05:57] <hastesaver> I mean, the fonts are HUGE...
[05:58] <jpatrick> hastesaver: no
[05:58] <nixternal> Adam_eM: if you installed grub-splashimages, then debsplash is in there
[05:58] <jpatrick> I'm hungry
[05:58] <Adam_eM> nixternal: kubuntu-grub-splashimages
[05:58] <hastesaver> Ok, I guess it's subjective, nevermind. I discovered how to make it look the way I want, and that's all that matters :)
[05:59] <tmdx120> Does anyone know how I can get either gtkpod or Amarok to recognize my ipod?
[05:59] <PaulioC> Hobbsee: So how do i install ndiswrapper-utils off the disk?
[05:59] <Hobbsee> PaulioC: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[05:59] <Hobbsee> !ndiswrapper
[05:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:59] <nixternal> Adam_eM: ok, do you know which splash image you want to use?  if so post it here please
[05:59] <Hobbsee> the guide is in that page - including instructions for non-internet-connected computers
[06:01] <PaulioC> ok
[06:01] <Adam_eM> nixternal: what do you mean by "post it here" ? :) Should i tell you the name or send the whole file ? :)
[06:01] <PaulioC> in that guide
[06:01] <nixternal> yes Adam_eM
[06:01] <PaulioC> it has a link to ndiswrapper utils
[06:01] <PaulioC> but i dont know what io'm supposed to be downloading
[06:02] <nixternal> Adam_eM: just tell me the name..sorry
[06:02] <nixternal> im e.tarded this morning
[06:02] <Adam_eM> nixternal: this is KUBUNTU_splashscreen_real_colors_01.xpm.gz
[06:02] <nixternal> good deal
[06:02] <nixternal> Adam_eM: cd /boot/grub
[06:03] <nixternal> Adam_eM: sudo ln -s splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_real_colors_01.xpm.gz splash.xpm.gz
[06:03] <nixternal> Adam_eM: sudo update-grub
[06:03] <nixternal> enjoy!!!
[06:04] <hastesaver> !usplash
[06:04] <ubotu> usplash is the start-up splash (before GNOME/KDE appears) in Ubuntu. To customize it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[06:04] <nixternal> usplast and grubsplash are different
[06:04] <nixternal> s/usplast/usplash
[06:04] <hastesaver> Oh, yes, that's right....
[06:04] <nixternal> hehe
[06:04] <Adam_eM> nixternal: bad luck
[06:05] <nixternal> Adam_eM: ?
[06:05] <Tommy2k4> would php give an error on mail() if the mail stuff wasnt set up properly
[06:05] <Adam_eM> earching for splash image ... found but preserving previous setting: splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz
[06:05] <Adam_eM> splashimage=(hd1,0)/boot/grub/splashimages/KUBUNTU_splashscreen_blue_neon_logo_03.xpm.gz
[06:05] <Adam_eM> oh man
[06:05] <Adam_eM> sorry
[06:05] <nixternal> oh wow...mine says the same thing
[06:05] <nixternal> hmmm
[06:06] <Adam_eM> i thought it would be shorter
[06:07] <Adam_eM> nixternal: it might be a bug then. It should work at all
[06:07] <arso> how do u delete history on konque ;) ??
[06:08] <Yen> Why are wireless network cards still a pain in the ass?
[06:09] <nixternal> Adam_eM: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:09] <nixternal> Adam_eM: scroll down to bootsplash and follow along
[06:09] <cox377> !webcam
[06:09] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:09] <nixternal> easier then trying to tell you word for word in here with everything going on
[06:09] <nixternal> i am going to try it also
[06:10] <nixternal> Adam_eM: interesting thing is that it looks the same as what i just told you to do
[06:10] <monomaniacpat> I was told that after installing kubuntu-desktop, it would be possible to remove the ksplash. It isn't without removing kubuntu-desktop as well....
[06:10] <dr_willis> kubuntu-desktop is just a huge meta-package
[06:10] <Adam_eM> well it isn't worth a try then. We both know it doesn't work
[06:11] <dr_willis> removeing part of it will 'break/remove' kubuntu desktop
[06:11] <Yen> anyone in here using a broadcom bcm43xx wireless card?
[06:11] <monomaniacpat> dr_willis: so I can remove those and still access kde?
[06:11] <nixternal> wo0t
[06:11] <nixternal> Adam_eM: don't ln -s it, copy it and rename it
[06:12] <nixternal> it works
[06:12] <dr_willis> of course.
[06:12] <nixternal> bah..no it didn't Adam_eM
[06:12] <monomaniacpat> OK, here goes nothing
[06:12] <dr_willis> or just disable all the bootsplash garbage and never see it again. :P
[06:13] <Adam_eM> nixternal: the real_colors... is the only splashimages that i CAN see after reboot but it has some weird colours, kinda reversed
[06:14] <Adam_eM> nixternal: but i can only display it by manually editing menu.lst file
[06:14] <nixternal> Adam_eM: maybe you could edit it in the menu.lst itself
[06:14] <nixternal> exactly
[06:15] <Adam_eM> yeah it works but it looks weird
[06:15] <Adam_eM> have you tried ?
[06:15] <nixternal> trying now
[06:16] <Adam_eM> nixternal: try the real_colors_01 and tell me what you will see
[06:17] <nixternal> Adam_eM: rebooting my other machine to test it out
[06:17] <Adam_eM> nixternal: ok
[06:18] <nixternal> ouch
[06:18] <nixternal> didn't look like nothing but a bad mistake
[06:18] <nixternal> definately didn't work
[06:19] <Adam_eM> nixternal: have you saw any pic or just nothing ?
[06:19] <nixternal> nothing
[06:19] <nixternal> it tried to load something, but it didn't
[06:19] <nixternal> it messed up the grub screen big time
[06:19] <Adam_eM> nixternal: what file did you try to load ?
[06:20] <nixternal> real_colors_01
[06:20] <Adam_eM> ah...
[06:20] <nixternal> hmm
[06:20] <Yen> I have an Acer Aspire 1511LMi with an Broadcom 43xx wireless networking card, ofcourse as predicted, it doesn't work. I'm using the Kubuntu 6.06 64bit live cd
[06:21] <Adam_eM> well i'm better :) I CAN see it when i boot my machine, but it can damage my eyes :D
[06:22] <Adam_eM> it should be a grey screen with a kubuntu logo at the center, although it's blue and green with more than one logo at left and right
[06:23] <bam_> anyone do any ripping with k3b?
[06:23] <nixternal> i didn't even get that..could be that i am on an lcd also
[06:23] <nixternal> bam_: all i use is k3b
[06:23] <bam_> hey, how does one rip a dvd with it?
[06:23] <nixternal> oh..rip
[06:23] <Yen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper says I need to install bcm43xx-fwcutter using apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[06:23] <nixternal> im sorry...im thinkng burn
[06:23] <Yen> and it says the package isn't found
[06:24] <Adam_eM> nixternal: i'm using a crt monitor atm
[06:24] <bam_> ahhh
[06:24] <cox377> !webcam
[06:24] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[06:24] <nixternal> bam_: if there isn't anything with Kubuntu and ripping, you can always check http://www.kde-apps.org
[06:25] <nixternal> did everyone buy a webcam today? ;)
[06:25] <cox377> i wnated to ask a question about web cames
[06:25] <cox377> cams
[06:25] <nixternal> no cox377, you are the 4th or 5th person i have seen wanting web cam info..thats all ;)
[06:25] <Adam_eM> nixternal: but i doubt it coulld be a monitor/display problem in view of standard of grub splashes
[06:25] <cox377> Just installed a little app called camorama that was on the help page
[06:25] <Tommy2k4> why wont my php/apache server send mail()
[06:26] <Tommy2k4> it gives no errors and the code works on another server
[06:26] <cox377> now.., i've installed it, how do i go about running that application?
[06:26] <Adam_eM> nixternal: each splash has to meet a specific requirements at all (size, color depth)
[06:26] <gemidjy> anyone else with fscked Align to Grid feature of Kde in Kubuntu Dapper? :S
[06:26] <nixternal> cox377: you can try pressing   'alt+f12'   and when the run dialog window opens, type in 'camorama' w/o the quotes and press enter
[06:27] <cox377> cool
[06:27] <cox377> cheers
[06:27] <nixternal> Adam_eM: i seen that, you would think however that the splashes would meet those requirements
[06:27] <nixternal> did it work cox377?
[06:27] <nixternal> lol
[06:27] <cox377> alt f12 doesnt do anything
[06:27] <Adam_eM> nixternal: but when you switch back to the crystal... something, everything just works! strange
[06:27] <nixternal> cox377: i am sure it will eventually show up in the kmenu list also
[06:28] <cox377> what else is there other than alt f12
[06:28] <cox377> i'm sure i have done something like that before
[06:28] <nixternal> press alt f2
[06:28] <nixternal> agg...hahaha cox377 im an e.tard
[06:28] <nixternal> f2, not 12
[06:28] <nixternal> lol
[06:28] <nixternal> Adam_eM: my grub is toasted now
[06:28] <nixternal> lol
[06:29] <cox377> lol
[06:29] <Cntryboy> how do I fix this error: sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Jul  5 00:18:39 2006
[06:29] <Cntryboy> thats within terminal
[06:29] <nixternal> sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[06:29] <cox377> i just installed my cam using easy cam and it all seemed to go smoothly, all installed no errors.. but it's playing stupid buggers now
[06:29] <nixternal> sometimes that works, and sometimes that doesn't
[06:29] <Cntryboy> for apt-get update
[06:30] <Adam_eM> nixternal: how did you manage to do it (toast your grub)
[06:30] <nixternal> messing around with these stoopid images..im going to try something else, as i see grub keeps going into my splash images directory
[06:30] <Cntryboy> thx nixternal
[06:31] <Adam_eM> nixternal: ah i see... i'm out of ideas though
[06:32] <nixternal> Adam_eM: i know there is a bug now..because i just moved the splashscreen directory to dips..and it still comes up saying /grub/splashimages/KU#$#)$#
[06:33] <wilfredH> hi folks
[06:33] <tmdx120> Hello guys. Im having trouble getting my ipod to be recognized by my multimedia player.  Can anyone help
[06:33] <tmdx120> ?
[06:34] <wilfredH> can anyone tell me why there are both the binaries and the source in my sources.list file? Surely I don't need both?
[06:34] <nixternal> Adam_eM: you know what, there is something up with the kubuntu grub images...because i can change the grub-splashimages w/o an issue
[06:34] <nixternal> tmdx120: make sure you mount the ipod first
[06:34] <canihojr> how to can i export my account of my Outlook MS for my Kontact????? :( any ideas?
[06:34] <nixternal> tmdx120: to mount it, just click the icon on the desktop to open it up
[06:35] <nixternal> that will automount it for you, then you can go ahead and see it in Amarok or other player
[06:35] <tmdx120> nixternal: I dont even get a desktop icon. I used to before I upgraded. after the upgrade, no more desktop icons.
[06:35] <nixternal> wilfredH: the sources are there if you want to compile, or edit packages...it doesn't hurt being there at all
[06:35] <nixternal> oh lord tmdx120, let me guess you did a 'dist-upgrade'
[06:36] <tmdx120> yup.
[06:36] <nixternal> canihojr: what version of outlook?
[06:36] <tmdx120> nixternal: is the the problem?
[06:37] <wilfredH> nixternal:  which are used by default?
[06:37] <nixternal> tmdx120: dist-upgrade doesn't work, i don't care what anyone says...everyone that says it used to work b4, i ask about dist-upgrade and the answer is always yes ;(
[06:37] <canihojr> nixternal 2003
[06:37] <nixternal> wilfredH: all downloads come from deb...deb-src gets you the actuall packages so if you wanted to apply patches and repackage it you could
[06:38] <wilfredH> ok. thanks
[06:38] <tmdx120> nixternal: Right after the upgrade, thinkgs were a little quirky. HOw do I get my periferals to be recognized automatically?
[06:38] <nixternal> right there Kamping_Kaiser ^^
[06:38] <nixternal> canihojr: would you mind joining me in #ubuntu-classroom  <- just click the link
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> nixternal, reading up
[06:39] <canihojr> ajam
[06:40] <tmdx120> nixternal: I just got the ripper encoding correctly... Now I cant find my ipod.
[06:40] <Adam_eM> nixternal: the kubuntu-splashimages paclage loads up crystal splash as default, and - what's amazing - it works nice, but when i change to anything else - it does not. Even if i just rename the file
[06:40] <nixternal> ya Adam_eM me either
[06:41] <nixternal> Adam_eM: i don't care what splash screen i try..it doesn't work for me...i think it is an issue with my lcd
[06:41] <Adam_eM> nixternal: nice puzzle eh ? I have no idea what can we do with it
[06:41] <nixternal> im getting rid of grubsplashes now ;(
[06:42] <Adam_eM> nixternal: me eithher... too hard for me
[06:42] <Adam_eM> maybe in edgy... ;)
[06:42] <nixternal> maybe
[06:43] <nixternal> i will pass this on to dev's though and see what they think
[06:43] <Adam_eM> or maybe they will provide some patches or stuff
[06:43] <nixternal> need to do something
[06:43] <nixternal> cuz it is bad ;(
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Can anyone tell me how to fix this package problem.  When I run an update I get that the two packages are held back.  Then I try to update them and I can't.  Here is the output:  http://pastebin.ca/78837
[06:45] <Adam_eM> nixternal: it's not the most important thing in the world to have the splash going, but it pisses me off... i like splashimages, why can't i use them then ?
[06:45] <nixternal> i hear you Adam_eM, i think it would be cool to use one myself
[06:45] <nixternal> kind of show off on boot ;)
[06:45] <cd_> nixternal: Linux is oddball for me man, last night I had back up files of all my archive files on a cd-r then reinstalled kubuntu and copied those files from cd-r to the archives dir here, but why did it have me update it b4 stuff would work?
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> Hawkwind, if you ahve security and updates enabled then apts just doing its job
[06:46] <nixternal> Hawkwind: are you trying to update from command line or adept?
[06:46] <Adam_eM> nixternal: why haven't you use such so far then ?
[06:46] <Hawkwind> nixternal: From CLI.
[06:46] <nixternal> i couldn't tell you cd_
[06:46] <avcib> ls
[06:46] <nixternal> Hawkwind: is the adept notifier running in kicker?
[06:46] <nixternal> if so, stop it and then try again
[06:46] <cd_> how do I kill ghost id
[06:46] <Hawkwind> Kamping_Kaiser: Well I have a ton of sources in my sources.list so I assume I've got security and updates defined
[06:46] <nixternal> or update via adept
[06:46] <cd_> cntryboy won't quit
[06:47] <Hawkwind> nixternal: I'm not using KDE.  I use E17 as my window manager
[06:47] <nixternal> cd_:     /msg nickserv ghost nick passwd
[06:47] <nixternal> ahhh Hawkwind
[06:47] <cd_> k
[06:48] <nixternal> ga
[06:48] <nixternal> all he had to do was /nick not quit
[06:48] <nixternal> lol
[06:50] <nixternal> Hawkwind: do you have universe and multiverse repositories?
[06:50] <Hawkwind> nixternal: Yes
[06:50] <snikker> for a compile the kernel, is better gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0 ?
[06:50] <nixternal> interesting...i wonder why it is dl'n and installing libfreetype6
[06:50] <Hawkwind> nixternal: I just ran adept and at the bottom it says 1807 installed, 2 upgradable, 19007 available
[06:50] <g-nome> hello, anyone knows when amarok 1.4.1 will be in the official kubuntu repos?
[06:50] <nixternal> snikker: doesn't matter
[06:50] <nixternal> more then likely the kernel was done with 3.4
[06:51] <nixternal> g-nome: soon
[06:51] <nixternal> it is in the process of packaging now
[06:51] <g-nome> ok thanks
[06:51] <snikker> nixternal: ok, thanks a lot
[06:51] <nixternal> np snikker
[06:51] <Hawkwind> nixternal: Then I choose to 'Show' upgradable packages only and nothing shows in the window :(
[06:51] <nixternal> interesting
[06:51] <nixternal> Hawkwind: have you tried to manually install the libfreetype6?
[06:51] <Adam_eM> nixternal: could you tell me if you'd post our problem to the developers so as to be able to gain the solution ?
[06:52] <Adam_eM> nixternal: in a condition you wouldn;t do it via e-mail but on launchpad or such
[06:52] <nixternal> i will probably do it via launchpad
[06:53] <nixternal> or, you could actually file it and i can confirm it for you
[06:53] <Hawkwind> nixternal: http://pastebin.ca/78845
[06:53] <Adam_eM> nixternal: maybe it's already done ?
[06:53] <Adam_eM> i am seeking on launchpad now
[06:54] <nixternal> it could be Adam_eM, but ya, check it..if it isn't, and you create it, or it is in there...no matter what, post the bug number in here so i can confirm it if need-be
[06:54] <nixternal> Hawkwind: e17 doesn't use anythign that would be running in the background that might use aptitude at all is there?
[06:54] <Hawkwind> nixternal: Nope
[06:55] <Adam_eM> nixternal: btw... talking about bugs i'm afraid (k)ubuntu cant play videocds... :(
[06:56] <Adam_eM> only VLC can cope it
[06:56] <monomaniacpat> I want to remove the splash that is displayed after grub in booting
[06:56] <nixternal> Hawkwind: i can update and install it w/o a problem...weird...have you tried rebooting?  i dont' know what else to try
[06:56] <friesenpeter> nixternal: have a look at "apt-cache policy libfreetype6"
[06:56] <monomaniacpat> Can anyone tell me how to do that?
[06:57] <Hawkwind> nixternal: I haven't rebooted in a while.  I would prefer not to as I don't see how rebooting would cure this problem to be honest
[06:58] <nixternal> that error or issue you have though, is usually created when something has apt somewhat tied down...that is why i thought about a reboot
[06:58] <friesenpeter> ah, Hawkwind is having the problems?
[06:58] <Adam_eM> monomaniacpat: remove/comment the line with "splashimage" in your boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:58] <nixternal> ya friesenpeter
[06:58] <nixternal> i can install it and upgrade it just fine
[06:58] <Hawkwind> nixternal: Nothing anywhere is using apt.  I've checked all running processes
[06:58] <nixternal> hahaha Adam_eM
[06:58] <monomaniacpat> Adam_eM: I want it to display the ubuntu one - will that work?
[06:58] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind:  have a look at "apt-cache policy libfreetype6"
[06:59] <Adam_eM> nixternal: another one (bites the dust :P)
[06:59] <Hawkwind> friesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/78850
[06:59] <nixternal> i see
[06:59] <sponix> aye, how do I get the kubuntu (kde) taskbar at the bottom of the screen when the panel is at the top (I want the two seperated) ?
[06:59] <Adam_eM> monomaniacpat: no it won't
[06:59] <nixternal> sponix: create another panel if you want them seperated
[06:59] <monomaniacpat> Adam_eM: how can I change it to something else then?
[06:59] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind: your package is up2date, what's the real problem?
[07:00] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: forget about it ;), me and Adam_eM discovered you really can't
[07:00] <Hawkwind> friesenpeter: Read the earlier pastebins.  It's saying that the packages are being held back, but it won't update them
[07:00] <sponix> nixternal: oh, and take the tasklist out of the main panel, and just put that into the newly created one ?
[07:00] <nixternal> yup
[07:00] <monomaniacpat> nixternal: god damn you people - now I'm stuck with a kubuntu splash! *shakes fist*
[07:00] <nixternal> why you want kde to look like gnome i would never know ;)
[07:00] <Hawkwind> friesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/78837
[07:00] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind: Have you already tried "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[07:00] <Adam_eM> nixternal: well he could change it but he would never see it :)
[07:00] <nixternal> !language
[07:00] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:01] <Hawkwind> friesenpeter: Read that pastebin.  That's the first one I posted that shows the problem
[07:01] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: you can remove it from the menu.lst file manually
[07:01] <nixternal> sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-grub-splashimages
[07:01] <nixternal> sudo apt-get remove grub-splashimages
[07:01] <monomaniacpat> thanks
[07:01] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind: I just did, what's the output from "apt-cache policy libcairo2"
[07:01] <nixternal> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:01] <nixternal> scroll down and delete the splashimages line
[07:02] <nixternal> once deleted, save file
[07:02] <nixternal> sudo update-grub
[07:02] <nixternal> say goodbye to the goofy images on boot ;)
[07:02] <Adam_eM> splashimage, without 's'
[07:02] <Hawkwind> friesenpeter: http://pastebin.ca/78854
[07:02] <nixternal> oh..sorry ;)
[07:03] <sponix> nixternal: know the name for the type of panel I want to create ?
[07:04] <nixternal> hmm..no
[07:04] <nixternal> lol
[07:04] <nixternal> let me try it here
[07:04] <nixternal> external taskbar?
[07:04] <nixternal> panel?
[07:04] <sponix> yeah, that seems to be the one
[07:04] <nixternal> dock application bar?
[07:05] <monomaniacpat> how do I make firefox the default browser?
[07:05] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind, have you either "deb http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz dapper main" or "deb http://ubuntu.compiz.net/ dapper main " in your sources list, as in the instructions on http://xgl.compiz.info/ ?
[07:05] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: "Kmenu > System Setting > KDE Components"
[07:05] <sponix> nixternal:  external taskbar seems to be what I'm looking for
[07:05] <nixternal> in there for browser, type 'firefox %u'
[07:06] <nixternal> w/o the quotes
[07:07] <n3storm> hi everyone
[07:07] <n3storm> is there a kde way to manage ssh knownhosts?
[07:08] <friesenpeter> Hawkwind: Ah forget it, I erred
[07:08] <n3storm> I login with different users to the same machine and then I get errors
[07:08] <monomaniacpat> nixternal: thanks
[07:08] <_Shade_> nixternal: prv ?
[07:10] <nixternal> _Shade_: whats up?
[07:11] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: no problem!!!
[07:11] <monomaniacpat> nixternal: only.... it doesn't actually work
[07:11] <nixternal> it should work
[07:12] <nixternal> works for me
[07:12] <monomaniacpat> links from gaim still open in konqueror - do I need to log back in again?
[07:12] <nixternal> ahhhh
[07:13] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: i think you either have to change it in gaim somewhere, you may have to restart gaim to get it to work
[07:13] <nixternal> hmmm
[07:14] <xwolf-> !xgl
[07:14] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:14] <nixternal> xwolf-: i seen a how-to for kubuntu and xgl/compiz on the ubuntu forums yesterday
[07:14] <nixternal> i haven't tried it, as it seems it has been working for man
[07:14] <nixternal> y
[07:15] <xwolf-> that tinyurl got it working for me
[07:15] <xwolf-> already running right now, just trying to configure it
[07:15] <nixternal> ahhh
[07:16] <nixternal> oh, i didn't even see the tinyurl one
[07:16] <nixternal> nice
[07:17] <monomaniacpat> It was a gaim setting
[07:19] <soul> ciao
[07:20] <soul> qualcuno mi puo aiutare un secondo?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> nixternal: You know Billy?
[07:20] <nixternal> DaSkreech: many moons ago yes, as i doubt he remembers any of us here
[07:20] <monomaniacpat> Why is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Give him a Kubuntu T-Shirt :)
[07:21] <nixternal> he doesn't hang out here in his home town at all
[07:21] <nixternal> his step parents are retards....i played football with his brother since his brother is my age...billy was a senior for the 2nd time my freshman year
[07:21] <nixternal> that was like in 87
[07:21] <nixternal> ok, way to OT ;)
[07:22] <dimitris> hi
[07:22] <nixternal> hey dimitris what can we do for you
[07:22] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :) I'm linking it to Kubunut Promotion :")
[07:22] <dimitris> where is the apt get, at the K menu ?!?
[07:22] <nixternal> dimitris: it is called Adept
[07:22] <nixternal> apt-get is a command line tool
[07:22] <dimitris> aaa
[07:22] <nixternal> Adept is apt's gui version for Kubuntu
[07:23] <nixternal> adept is "Kmenu > System > Adept"
[07:23] <Hawkwind> nixternal: So no ideas about updating these two packages of mine or if I should even worry about them ?
[07:23] <nixternal> i have no idea Hawkwind, im baffled at the issue, as i have no problem iwth it
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Whats the package issue?
[07:23] <dimitris> but how can i intall firefox eith adept !?!
[07:23] <Hawkwind> nixternal: I wonder if it's something to do with the compiz/XGL sources.  I don't use compiz/XGL so I could probably get rid of them
[07:24] <DaSkreech> dimitris: You filter on firefox
[07:24] <ash-fox> Does kubuntu have a 'win32-fonts' package? I just can't seem to find it in adept (I have the universe, multiverse and plf repositories)
[07:24] <pete27> The 6.06 Kubuntu desktop CD FORMATTED THE WRONG PARTITION!!!
[07:24] <pete27> THIS IS RIDICULOUS
[07:24] <nixternal> dimitris: select mozilla-firefox, so scroll down untily ou see it, and right click and tell it to install
[07:24] <pete27> It blew off my main OS. I NEEDED THAT
[07:25] <nixternal> pete27: im sorry to hear that happened
[07:25] <nixternal> i understand your frustrations, as i have done it in the past myself
[07:25] <pete27> Considering how much of a pain in the ass this is, I'm not that mad
[07:25] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: http://pastebin.ca/78875
[07:25] <dimitris> but it isn't on the list !
[07:25] <pete27> Although I'de like to know how it formatted the wrong partition with the wrong filesystem
[07:25] <pete27> I told it hda7 w/jfs and it did hda6 w/ext3
[07:25] <nixternal> ash-fox: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:26] <pete27> It took me months to get that gentoo install working perfectly
[07:26] <nixternal> ash-fox: they are called 'msttcorefonts'
[07:26] <ash-fox> nixternal, thankyou :)
[07:26] <nixternal> np ash-fox
[07:26] <atripathi> i thought gnome to be simple and elegant but now i am using kubuntu live CD and its speed is remarkably better
[07:26] <monomaniacpat> Why is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around...?
[07:26] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Yes it is
[07:26] <atripathi> does anybody agree to it ?
[07:26] <nixternal> atripathi: wait until you install it and upgrade to kde 3.5.3, the speed is even better
[07:26] <dimitris> i open the adept and i search the list
[07:27] <dimitris> there's nowhere firefox !
[07:27] <atripathi> truly amazed !
[07:27] <nixternal> firefox is in there dimitris, it is labeled as 'firefox' and as 'mozilla-firefox'...so it is in there twice actually
[07:28] <nixternal> make sure the filter list either displays firefox in it, or doesn't display anything at all so all packages show
[07:28] <Hawkwind> ash-fox: You the same ash-fox that I know from Mandriva ?
[07:28] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Any ideas on that package problem in pastebin ?
[07:28] <ash-fox> Hawkwind that would be true :)
[07:28] <Hawkwind> ash-fox: Nice nice.  Glad to see you here :)
[07:28] <nixternal> and now he has jumped ship and come to where the real stuff is ;)
[07:28] <ash-fox> Hawkwind, since you switched to Kubuntu, I decided to try it out for myself. =)
[07:28] <dimitris> there's only a mozilla firefox locale - en
[07:29] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Do a Fetch Updates
[07:29] <pete27> and now the kubuntu cd is corrupted so I can't even install kubuntu to get back t owhere I started
[07:29] <Hawkwind> nixternal: ash-fox has been a faithful use of my http://SeerOfSouls.com/ site for a long time now.  He's following suit :)
[07:29] <dimitris> but there isn't the browser
[07:29] <pete27> this should make me hate kubuntu
[07:29] <nixternal> good deal
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: I have it as well. I just ignore it
[07:29] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Ok thanks.  So no big deal then I assume
[07:29] <dimitris> i did an update feach nothing happen
[07:29] <nixternal> pete27: how is the cd corrupted?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: As long as you don't install it :)
[07:30] <pete27> nixternal: at 75% of the way through install it says /dev/hdc buffer error
[07:30] <dimitris> what ever !
[07:30] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Well I can't get them installed.  So I guess I don't really need them updated
[07:30] <pete27> It freezez 75% of the way through the media test as well
[07:30] <pete27> The god of gentoo is punishing me for trying kubuntu
[07:30] <nixternal> dimitris: if it isn't there, then you have other issues, as i am looking dead at it on a default install
[07:30] <dimitris> so dose anybody know why amarok can't play mp3 ???
[07:30] <pete27> my machine is worthless now, I won't even be able to go to work tomorrow
[07:30] <driz> !mp3
[07:30] <ubotu> For lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:30] <nixternal> dimitris: you need to install libxine-extracodecs
[07:31] <nixternal> omg the lag stinks
[07:31] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Can you paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in pastebin?
[07:31] <zorglu1> pete27: why dont you burn another cd ?
[07:31] <dimitris> what
[07:31] <pete27> because the OS with the .iso on it was blown away by the crappy partitioning program
[07:31] <monomaniacpat> Why is kubuntu so bad at displaying GTk progs? gnome has no problem the other way around...?
[07:32] <pete27> I told it hda7 w/jfs, and it formatted hda6 w/ext3
[07:32] <pete27> which blew off my gentoo install
[07:32] <DaSkreech> You have a /home parition?
[07:32] <pete27> no sir
[07:32] <zorglu1> pete27: oh... i see. dont you have another computer ? or 2 cd drives on this box ?
[07:32] <pete27> I have this crappy laptop, but I have to redownload the iso
[07:32] <pete27> and my internet is one of those CDMA cards. ie slow
[07:33] <zorglu1> pete27: i know this is uncool, but i dont see any alternative
[07:33] <pete27> any alternative to what?
[07:33] <pete27> redownloading and installing?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> Si
[07:34] <zorglu1> pete27: to redownload the iso, reburn and reinstall
[07:34] <dimitris> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[07:34] <dimitris> #deb http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:34] <dimitris> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[07:34] <dimitris> #deb-src http://gr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted
[07:34] <dimitris> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[07:34] <dimitris> ## distribution.
[07:34] <dimitris> # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
[07:34] <nixternal> !pastebin
[07:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> !pastebin > dimitris
[07:35] <pete27> damn, I don't even have a torrent client on this laptop.  What a crappy way to start a day off
[07:36] <zorglu1> pete27: do you have a friend who can download/burn for you ?
[07:36] <zorglu1> pete27: like a neighboor
[07:36] <dimitris> sorry my keybard stuck and make paste all the time
[07:37] <dimitris> i'm realy sorry about that !
[07:37] <pete27> eh, maybe, but it would take an hour in NYC to d/l, burn, pick it up
[07:37] <larson9999> a gentoo guy having a hard time setting ubuntu?  sorry, but that's funny
[07:37] <zorglu1> dimitris: no harm done. just avoid to do it all the time :)
[07:37] <pete27> It's the stupid partitioning program
[07:37] <zorglu1> pete27: i dunno, ust trying to find the better solution
[07:38] <DaSkreech> dimitris: did you get the PM from ubotu ?
[07:38] <pete27> Is the partitioning program known to have bugs or am I the lucky winner?
[07:38] <sja> pete27-> If you got kubuntu installed you should have a torrent client -- ktorrent
[07:38] <dimitris> yes
[07:38] <pete27> sja: long story, kubuntu isn't installled
[07:38] <DaSkreech> sja: It isn't installed :)
[07:38] <pete27> and I don't have wifi, I use a CDMA card
[07:38] <pete27> so I get 100KB/sec MAX if I'm lucky
[07:39] <pete27> and I have to recompile the kernel to get it to work anyway
[07:39] <sja> ouch
[07:39] <pete27> This box is a gentoo box, so I recompiled the kernel to get it to have net access
[07:39] <dimitris> DaSkreech: do you get it ?
[07:39] <pete27> The cable company won't install cable internet here, and my neighbors wifi is too weak oif a signal
[07:40] <dimitris> ...
[07:40] <pete27> ok, d/ling the torrent
[07:40] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Paste the file contents at pastebin then paste the URL here
[07:41] <larson9999> sounds like you need to visit a hack site and make an antenna
[07:41] <pete27> wpw kubuntu does some flashy things when you put it in windows
[07:42] <pete27> nice
[07:42] <ubuntu_> anyone up for some installer help ?
[07:42] <dimitris> DaSreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d17185
[07:42] <ubuntu_> hmm, am I still here
[07:43] <fito> hi guys, i want to run a program with a python extension. example : amarok.py its a superkaramba widget, but i try to run it, and it just opens up in kate with the source code.
[07:43] <dueyfinster> python <insertprogram/scriptname>
[07:43] <sja> try "sudo python amarok.py"
[07:43] <monomaniacpat> how do you turn up the volume in KDE?
[07:43] <dueyfinster> Start Kmix
[07:44] <dueyfinster> monomaniacpat: alt+F2 then type kmix
[07:44] <satafterh> hay all, is there  a linux program that would allow me to record from my camcord that would be connected to my tvtuner card right to dvd
[07:44] <dimitris> DaSkreech: so... is everything ok ?!?
[07:44] <DaSkreech> reading
[07:45] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Safe to say no :)
[07:45] <DaSkreech> Do you have adept open?
[07:45] <ubuntu_> I'm at stage 6 out of 6 of an install onto a lappie and XP is on /dev/sda2, I'd like / on /dev/sda5 but ubiquity seems to want to install onto /dev/sda1 even though I've done the manual option and specified the partitons the way I want them... any clues ?
[07:45] <dimitris> yes
[07:45] <fito> Traceback (most recent call last): File "amarok.py", line 28, in ? :import karamba
[07:45] <fito> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:45] <fito>   File "amarok.py", line 28, in ?
[07:45] <fito>     import karamba
[07:45] <dimitris> DaSkreech: i do
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Under the Adept Menu there is a manage repositories
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Click that
[07:46] <monomaniacpat> is it possible to adjust volume with a keyboard shortcut?
[07:47] <dimitris> DaSkreech: i did it now ?!?
[07:47] <pete27> I hate to say this, but it looks like the windows partition that kubuntu didn't destroy might be able to connect to  a weak network and get me the iso rather quickly
[07:47] <pete27> When windows is your savior, its time to smoke a joint
[07:47] <dimitris> DaSkreech: Now what ?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Ok now any line that starts with deb and has main in it highlight and click enable at the bottom
[07:48] <DaSkreech> You may also want to do that to  lines with universe
[07:49] <monomaniacpat> keyboard shortcuts people?
[07:49] <elknof1> multimedia keys people??
[07:50] <dimitris> DaSkreech: i did it !
[07:50] <dimitris> DaSkreech: now ?
[07:50] <dimitris> DaSkreech: i make a feach update !
[07:50] <DaSkreech> dimitris: Found things now?
[07:51] <dueyfinster> monomaniacpat: With what program are you using the volume?
[07:52] <julio> hi
[07:52] <dimitris> DaSkreech: Yes, many :D
[07:52] <DaSkreech> And firefox?
[07:52] <MrObvious> !nvidia
[07:52] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:52] <nixternal> monomaniacpat: "Kmenu > System Settings > Regional & Accessibility"   <- keyboard shortcuts
[07:52] <dueyfinster> monomaniacpat: I know amaroK and Kaffeine, you can set keys in the settings menu
[07:52] <julio> anybody uses BloGTK
[07:53] <elknof1> hi everybody does anyone knows how t enable multimedia hotkeys??
[07:54] <nixternal> elknof1: you need to install keytouch
[07:54] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install keytouch
[07:54] <nixternal> or you can get it out of adept
[07:54] <nixternal> sudo apt-get install keytouch-editor
[07:54] <nixternal> sorry
[07:55] <elknof1> nixternal, thanks let me try..
[07:55] <nixternal> elknof1: never mind that
[07:55] <nixternal> let me get you a link
[07:55] <monomaniacpat> Why is kubuntu so bad at displaying gnome apps? gnome has no problem the other way around
[07:55] <nixternal> as it seems keytouch isn't in the repositories, just the stoopid editor
[07:56] <dueyfinster> monomaniacpat: You can set GTK themes
[07:56] <nixternal> i got keytouch from http://www.kde-apps.org
[07:56] <nixternal> elknof1: http://www.kde-apps.org   <- search for keytouch
[07:56] <dueyfinster> monomaniacpat: K -> System Settings -> Appearance -> GTK Style and Fonts
[07:56] <monomaniacpat> dueyfinster: how?
[07:56] <elknof1> nixternal, i've already installed keytouch editor...  do i have to remove it??
[07:56] <monomaniacpat> eek, gtg
[07:56] <nixternal> no elknof1
[07:56] <nixternal> it is ok ;)
[07:57] <nixternal> keytouch-editor is for command line editing, which is a pain
[07:57] <larson999> linux rocks!!
[07:57] <nixternal> the keytouch program itself is awesome,  as you can select your keyboard and it sets it up automatically
[07:57] <nixternal> let me get you a link
[07:57] <nixternal> elknof1: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[07:58] <nixternal> elknof1: http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/keytouch/keytouch_2.1.99+2.2.0beta-0ubuntu1_i386.deb?download    <-- the download you need
[07:58] <nixternal> larson999 glad to hear you think linux rocks!!!
[07:58] <elknof1> nixternal: thanks a lot...
[07:59] <nixternal> np elknof1
[07:59] <larson999> nixternal: yeah, it was in jeopardy of fading away until i endorsed it
[07:59] <nixternal> i have a logitech (older) multimedia kb and it works like a charm
[08:01] <larson999> keytouch - qjoypad for the keyboard?
[08:01] <nixternal> keytouch sets up your multimedia keys for you
[08:01] <soul> c'e un'italiano
[08:01] <soul> ?
[08:02] <nixternal> not here soul...only english here ;)
[08:02] <soul> porca
[08:02] <soul> puttana
[08:02] <elknof1> soul: /join #ubuntu-it
[08:02] <soul> ok
[08:03] <soul> grazie
[08:03] <[Fractal] > hi
[08:03] <unix_infidel> peace
[08:03] <BKaj> trying to figure out how to install tar.gz files , no luck whatsoever with getting gcc to work
[08:03] <nixternal> thx elknof1 for pointing that out
[08:03] <unix_infidel> BKaj: INSTALL tar.gz files/
[08:03] <unix_infidel> ??
[08:03] <unix_infidel> you can extract them, they are just like zip files.
[08:03] <dueyfinster> nixternal: Shouldn't we be #ubuntu-en ?!?!?!?!
[08:03] <nixternal> tar -zxvf package.tar.gz
[08:03] <nixternal> dont' need it
[08:04] <BKaj> yeah , but where is the exe file
[08:04] <jlarsson> what do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?
[08:04] <dueyfinster> nixternal: I know, twas a joke!
[08:04] <nixternal> there is no .exe in linux
[08:04] <unix_infidel> oh jeez, mandriva flash back.....
[08:04] <jlarsson> what do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?
[08:04] <colm> hi folks, is there an easy way (single command) to disable kde eyecandy - running on my server over NX it's all a bit sllloooowww...
[08:04] <dueyfinster> BKaj: you need to untar it, its like a zip file
[08:04] <jlarsson> what do i wright if i want to join the swedish kubuntu server ?
[08:04] <mhterres> hi everybody
[08:05] <dueyfinster> BKaj: You can use "sudo tar -xzf <filename>" or right click extract here
[08:05] <dueyfinster> mhterres: hi
[08:06] <BKaj> I've done that , but the app won't launch , which is it , there 16 friggin files extracted
[08:07] <nixternal> BKaj: please join me in #ubuntu-classroom   <- click the blue to join
[08:07] <dueyfinster> BKaj: Its not going to launch, what you have is a whole lot of code, you need to extract it, then configure it and then make it. Its simpler than it sounds, but if that daunts you, I'd search adept, or get an ubuntu deb file from somewhere
[08:07] <arso> hey guys
[08:07] <arso> amarok isnt playing
[08:08] <arso> this is the first time i try it
[08:08] <arso> since installing kubuntu
[08:08] <elknof1> nixternal, i think im having probs while installing keytouch, it gave me back that i need some dependencies...  libgnome-menu2   but im working under kde..  would it that be a problem??
[08:08] <dueyfinster> arso: It's proably then engine
[08:08] <elknof1> arso, you nees to install extracodecs
[08:08] <nixternal> elknof1: it is fine
[08:08] <dueyfinster> arso: goto amarok, look under settings
[08:08] <nixternal> go ahead and install the dependencies
[08:09] <dueyfinster> arso: select xine engine
[08:09] <arso> dueyfinster:  ok
[08:09] <dueyfinster> arso: if its not on dropdown list, chances are its not installed, search adept for it then
[08:09] <arso> elknof1:  where do i get this
[08:09] <elknof1> arso, is it the first time you use linux??
[08:09] <arso> yes :)
[08:10] <dueyfinster> arso: also see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:10] <[Fractal] > i have problems installing (k)ubuntu, no partition is shown during install
[08:10] <arso> ok
[08:10] <elknof1> arso: ok let me helo you...   hit alt+space bar, and type adept then enter
[08:10] <arso> wats katapult
[08:10] <elknof1> nixternal: how can i start a private room??
[08:11] <[Fractal] > bye, I move to kubuntu-es
[08:11] <nixternal> you can /msg nick the person you want to do private with
[08:11] <arso> ok i am in adept
[08:11] <elknof1> arso, ok now type adept...  its a program that makes easyer start applications...
[08:11] <arso> ya i know adept, i am in it
[08:12] <arso> btw xine engine is selected in amarok
[08:12] <arso> so i need those extracodecs thing?
[08:12] <elknof1> arso, ok now in view>manage repositories
[08:12] <dueyfinster> arso: If you want to play mp3's etc
[08:13] <arso> elknof1:  ok i am there, btw i already set up that universe and multiverse
[08:13] <sotired> think the shuttle will go today?
[08:14] <arso> elknof1:  so now wat?
[08:14] <elknof1> arso, excelent, ok exit manage repositories, and return to the packages...
[08:14] <elknof1> click on update
[08:14] <arso> ok
[08:14] <elknof1> arso, then in the search tab type extracodes
[08:15] <arso> codes or codecs?
[08:15] <elknof1> the package is libxine-extracodecs
[08:15] <elknof1> codecs*
[08:15] <elknof1> sorry
[08:15] <arso> k
[08:15] <Cntryboy> Hey all
[08:15] <arso> ok i found it
[08:15] <arso> i'll instal that then
[08:15] <elknof1> arso, yup...
[08:16] <Cntryboy> besides nano what is an txt editor I can use within terminal.. I wanted to use gedit but its not with kde I guess, and kate gives me errors when I sudo kate /dir/dir/dir ect
[08:16] <abattoir> Cntryboy: vi
[08:16] <elknof1> arso, tell me when you finish to setup w32codecs
[08:16] <neoncode> How do I edit the menu in kbfx?
[08:16] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo vi /dir/dir/dir
[08:17] <Cntryboy> kk roger
[08:17] <Cntryboy> thx
[08:17] <arso> elknof1:  ok
[08:17] <colm> hi folks, eventually found enable icon mouseover effects in panel appearance (all others are in  one click in appearance...)  - help no longer reqd thanks
[08:17] <arso> 13%
[08:17] <Cntryboy> hrmm that kinda looks like nano
[08:17] <Cntryboy> is there anything that looks like gedit?
[08:17] <Cntryboy> gui
[08:17] <arso> wat connections do u guys have, i have a 512kbs
[08:17] <Cntryboy> kate has a nice gui, but not sure why it isn't working
[08:17] <elknof1> same
[08:18] <abattoir> Cntryboy: try kdesu kate, and enter your pwd
[08:18] <arso> 55%
[08:18] <Cntryboy> what does kdesu mean?
[08:18] <Cntryboy> and why can't I just sudo?
[08:19] <elknof1> Cntryboy, its to run kde applications as rrot
[08:19] <elknof1> root
[08:19] <Cntryboy> so kde is set up a lot differ. than gnome?
[08:19] <ubuntu__> ah... installation under way... I simply had to remove the windows partitons from step 5
[08:19] <Cntryboy> ive been using sudo with kde and its worked with everything else
[08:19] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what error do you get w/ sudo kate?
[08:19] <Cntryboy> mm
[08:19] <abattoir> !paste > Cntryboy
[08:20] <h3sp4wn> gksudo is for gnome kdesu is for kde
[08:20] <abattoir> Cntryboy: if its large ;)
[08:20] <Cntryboy> yah its huge
[08:20] <DaSkreech> !Jimminy > DaSkreech
[08:20] <ubotu> I know nothing about Jimminy
[08:20] <elknof1> arso, hold just a minute...  i really need a shower...  just 3 mins...
[08:20] <Cntryboy> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[08:20] <Cntryboy> has that tons of times
[08:20] <arso> elknof1:  omg :S
[08:20] <arso> elknof1:  anything else i need to do after installing extracodecs
[08:21] <Cntryboy> kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed
[08:21] <Cntryboy> bunch of errors
[08:21] <abattoir> Cntryboy: what about kdesu kate?
[08:21] <Cntryboy> kate works by itself though through applic menu
[08:21] <arso> elknof1:  ok , isntallation finishe
[08:21] <Cntryboy> haven't tried it yet
[08:21] <abattoir> Cntryboy: same error?
[08:21] <ubuntu__> arso> are you doing a livecd install by any chance ?
[08:21] <Cntryboy> says
[08:21] <Cntryboy> su returned with an error
[08:22] <arso> yes , installed it from a live cd
[08:22] <arso> y?
[08:22] <abattoir> Cntryboy: there is also kwrite
[08:22] <ubuntu__> arso> so am I, half way thru
[08:22] <Cntryboy> kwrite a txt editor?
[08:22] <abattoir> Cntryboy: yes
[08:23] <arso> ubuntu__:  cool, i finished installing it 3 days ago ;) or 4 days
[08:23] <arso> i am liking it
[08:23] <Cntryboy> same thing
[08:23] <Cntryboy> same errors
[08:23] <arso> gave me a pain in the ass had to reformat all the drives to ext3 coz i wanted todual boot
[08:23] <Cntryboy> kde seems more probs than what its worth lol
[08:23] <arso> and my old monitor has some resolution problems and shit
[08:23] <Cntryboy> gnome everything works smoothly
[08:23] <arso> but now its all patched up
[08:23] <abattoir> Cntryboy: nah....
[08:23] <ubuntu__> arso> my install is detecting hardware right now... 10 more mins and it shoudl be done, fingers crossed
[08:24] <arso> i like the look of kde more than gnome
[08:24] <abattoir> Cntryboy: running breezy or dapper?
[08:24] <Cntryboy> dapper
[08:24] <arso> ubuntu__:  good luck, u plan on dual booting? wat u used before? windows or mac
[08:24] <ubuntu__> arso> I always used linux, but this lappie has XP on it and as far as I know it's still there... I hope :-)
[08:25] <arso> lol i see, cool
[08:25] <Cntryboy> ya'll want me to copy error and put it at pastebin?
[08:25] <abattoir> Cntryboy: i used to get that error w/ breezy, but one of sudo and kdesu used to work, now its fine.
[08:25] <abattoir> Cntryboy: i wonder why.
[08:25] <abattoir> Cntryboy: does sudo/kdesu konqueror work?
[08:25] <Cntryboy> dunno ill use kdesu kate just for ref. and paste the error at paste bin
[08:26] <ubuntu__> ah finished... time to take a deep breathe and... reboot, and see if there is anything left of this lappie
[08:26] <ubuntu__> gulp.. see ya folks :-)
[08:26] <elknof1> arso, im back
[08:26] <arso> ggood luck
[08:26] <arso> elknof1:  that was fast, cool
[08:26] <arso> elknof1:  extracodecs installed
[08:27] <arso> now wat
[08:27] <Cntryboy> my dial up is even slower with kde only connects me at 9600bbps
[08:27] <Cntryboy> and its set to highest lol
[08:27] <elknof1> arso, ok now we need to edit your sources.list   ...   so copy paste   sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:27] <elknof1> arso, in konsole
[08:27] <arso> yes i know
[08:28] <arso> ok i am in kate
[08:28] <arso> now wat
[08:28] <arso> lol i am 'IN kate"
[08:28] <elknof1> now, leave a blank line at the bottom. and paste the next line..
[08:28] <Cntryboy> all I wanna do is open up through term the xorg.conf file lol
[08:28] <Cntryboy> but use gui
[08:28] <arso> elknof1:  paste wat?
[08:29] <Cntryboy> abattoir: this is when I use kdesu kate,  http://pastebin.ca/78928
[08:29] <elknof1> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main
[08:29] <elknof1> arso, the wole line
[08:29] <elknof1> whole*
[08:30] <elknof1> save and close
[08:30] <arso> so from my previous last line, it should be like this :
[08:30] <arso> deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[08:30] <arso> deb ftp://cipherfunk.org/pub/packages/ubuntu/ dapper main
[08:30] <arso> with a space between them
[08:30] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo also comes up w/ something similar?
[08:30] <arso> saved and closedf
[08:30] <arso> now wat
[08:30] <elknof1> arso, yup
[08:31] <Cntryboy> no
[08:31] <Cntryboy> not now
[08:31] <Cntryboy> it says this when I do sudo
[08:31] <Cntryboy> js
[08:31] <abattoir> Cntryboy: try sudo su
[08:32] <elknof1> arso, hold im getting the keys for that line
[08:32] <abattoir> Cntryboy: and then kate
[08:32] <arso>  okay
[08:32] <Cntryboy> why is kde so differ. in commands than gnome
[08:32] <elknof1> now in konsole c-p      gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[08:32] <Cntryboy> should be close to the same things lol
[08:33] <zorglu1> abattoir: Cntryboy: have you tried "kdesu kate"
[08:33] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo does work w/ KDE ;), it just isnt in your case
[08:33] <elknof1> arso, now in konsole c-p      gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3
[08:33] <Cntryboy> zorglu1: yes ive tried that brb let me paste error
[08:33] <abattoir> zorglu1: yes http://pastebin.ca/67992
[08:33] <arso> sorry wat?
[08:33] <arso> elknof1:  "konsole c-p" ?
[08:34] <canihojr> how to active java acces in x11vcn? x11vcn -http ?
[08:34] <arso> use quotations please, so i'll know wat to copy
[08:34] <elknof1> arso, yeap, open a konsole c-p  (copy - paste)
[08:34] <Cntryboy> http://pastebin.ca/78935
[08:34] <Cntryboy> abattoir: I pasted the sudo error
[08:34] <arso> ohhh ok
[08:34] <arso> sorry
[08:34] <arso> thought c-p was a command
[08:34] <elknof1> arso, "gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 33BAC1B3"
[08:35] <abattoir> Cntryboy: can you try rebooting, and see if that works?
[08:35] <elknof1> arso, "gpg --export --armor 33BAC1B3 | sudo apt-key add -"
[08:35] <elknof1> arso, "sudo apt-get update"
[08:35] <abattoir> Cntryboy: one more thing, just open kate, w/ sudo kate/kdesu kate dont parse a file...
[08:36] <arso> elknof1:  gpg: requesting key 33BAC1B3 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net
[08:36] <arso> we'll just wait?
[08:36] <dueyfinster> arso: yep
[08:36] <elknof1> arso, yes
[08:36] <arso> okay =)
[08:36] <canihojr> how to active java acces in x11vcn? x11vcn -http ?
[08:36] <wicho> hi!
[08:36] <arso> btw did a girl EVER get into this  channel :P
[08:37] <Cntryboy> abattoir: you lost me on last command
[08:37] <elknof1> arso, yeap
[08:37] <crimsun> arso: of course. One of the ops and Kubuntu Community Council members is one.
[08:37] <abattoir> Cntryboy: just try sudo kate.... w/o /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:37] <elknof1> arso, not me but i meet several...
[08:37] <arso> lol wow,
[08:37] <arso> so they KNOW about linux :P
[08:37] <abattoir> Cntryboy: even if that doesn work, i strong suggest a reboot :)
[08:38] <Cntryboy> abattoir: doesn't work the same error, but under utilities it opens up fine
[08:39] <arso> elknof1:  ok updating
[08:39] <abattoir> Cntryboy: there is some problem with running a KDE application as root, they should run normally though...
[08:39] <larson9999> arso: sure me.  my real nick is ezchick4u
[08:39] <abattoir> Cntryboy: is it possible for you to reboot?
[08:39] <abattoir> and try it again?
[08:39] <Cntryboy> abattoir: yes
[08:39] <Cntryboy> brb
[08:40] <arso> larson9999:  lol cool, ur the first linux-chick i meet lol,
[08:40] <larson9999> go to linuxchicks.org.  i think that's it
[08:40] <arso> LOL
[08:40] <Lynoure> hmmm
[08:41] <elknof1> arso, "sudo apt-get install w32codecs"
[08:41] <arso> elknof1:  downloading
[08:41] <elknof1> larson9999, ezchik4me  too??  lol
[08:41] <larson9999> elknof1: that's where the ez part comes in.
[08:42] <larson9999> i should warn you guys that like all hot chicks on the net, i'm really 5'2" 220lbs and my friends and family call me hank
[08:42] <Eazy-> anyone plays UT2004 here?
[08:42] <elknof1> larson9999: deam...   hopefully you are a model, and so my dreams chick...
[08:43] <Lynoure> arso: Plenty of linux girls in the world, though of course could be more, too.
[08:43] <larson9999> elknof1: i'm a part time lawyer-model
[08:43] <DaSkreech> !women
[08:43] <ubotu> The women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.
[08:43] <arso> lol i see, inever met one in real life
[08:43] <arso> LOOOOOOOOOOOl  daskreech
[08:43] <elknof1> arso, thats all about codecs for multimedia playing...
[08:43] <arso> its still downloading
[08:43] <DaSkreech> Unfortunately I think that all the women in #ubuntu-women are men :(
[08:43] <arso> so when thats done, do i need to restart or anything
[08:44] <arso> or will it be ready
[08:44] <elknof1> arso, now you're able to play any media format...
[08:44] <arso> DaSkreech:  lol
[08:44] <Lynoure> arso: If you'll treat them like mythical beings or figments from fairytales, the'll sure be avoiding you
[08:44] <antrax> hello
[08:44] <DaSkreech> Hi Lynoure
[08:44] <arso> elknof1:  cool, i already can, with vlc, but i wanted the other programs to work too
[08:44] <larson9999> the mythical hot linux chick<[08:44] <Lynoure> DaSkreech: Hello, how are you today? :)
[08:44] <arso> Lynoure:  lol, why would i treat them like that?
[08:45] <larson9999> do linux chicks live in their mom's basement until they're 40, 100?
[08:45] <elknof1> larson9999, wow... merry me please... hmm   are you married??  lol
[08:45] <larson9999> s/100/too
[08:45] <arso> lol
[08:45] <linuxProblem> hey
[08:45] <linuxProblem> got a problem
[08:45] <Lynoure> arso: your reaction to the thought of one having been to this channel fell into that category
[08:45] <DaSkreech> larson9999: Hey!!!
[08:45] <elknof1> linuxProblem, i realize it
[08:45] <DaSkreech> I live in the attic!
[08:46] <linuxProblem> can u help me
[08:46] <arso> Lynoure:  sincere appologies, lol
[08:46] <arso> DaSkreech:  lol
[08:46] <elknof1> larson9999, now your being a rockstar in this channel...  LOL
[08:46] <larson9999> i learned linux so i could hide my pr0n from my wife.  i hope she doesn't catch on to #ubuntu-women
[08:46] <zorglu1> linuxProblem: if you have a question, ask it :)
[08:46] <linuxProblem> k
[08:46] <Lynoure> arso: No need to... it's not my loss. :)
[08:46] <linuxProblem> i have forgot my root passwort for suse linux
[08:46] <linuxProblem> and i will reset it
[08:46] <antrax> well
[08:47] <linuxProblem> now i am online with knubuntu live CD
[08:47] <larson9999> elknof1: i think the post about my friends and family calling me 'hank' went unnoticed
[08:47] <franz_> while starting kubuntu from CD i get the following message:
[08:47] <antrax> you have a problem
[08:47] <franz_> hdc: ide_intr: huh? expected NULL handler on exit
[08:47] <arso> omg, how can u forget that
[08:47] <elknof1> larson9999, ups...   lenses prob
[08:47] <linuxProblem> mhm i dont know if i forgot or i dont create anyone
[08:47] <Eazy-> got a problem with UT2004.....when I minimize the game with: Alt + Enter then Ctrl + G. when I mximize UT2004 it then minimizes everytime I hit enter
[08:47] <linuxProblem> but i cant start linux now
[08:47] <linuxProblem> can anyone tell me how i reset the pw
[08:47] <franz_> Buffer I/O error on device  hdc, logical block 356808
[08:48] <elknof1> linuxProblem, i think for suse is needed root passw... since installation...
[08:48] <Lynoure> larson9999: not unnoticed... just irrelevant. Here you are lines on the screen. your personality, your skills, your communication. Height and weight travel badly through irc :)
[08:48] <zorglu1> linuxProblem: boot in 'recovery mode' and do "passwd" it will ask you for a password and you provide the one you want
[08:48] <linuxProblem> i have boot in recovery mode
[08:48] <linuxProblem> it says to me give root passwort
[08:48] <larson9999> Lynoure: in that case, send me jewelry
[08:49] <abattoir> franz_: heavily scratched CD/CDRW?
[08:49] <linuxProblem> can i typ there passwd?
[08:49] <franz_> not at all abattoir
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Eazy-: I had that problem on windows too I think I had to go to the command keys setup change something change it back and then save it
[08:49] <franz_> CD just burnt and verified
[08:49] <Lynoure> larson9999: the moment you do deserve it. :) I can recommend a nice shop of antique jewellery meanwhile. :)
[08:49] <DaSkreech> franz_: Gentoo Partition?
[08:50] <franz_> no
[08:50] <DaSkreech> ok
[08:50] <franz_> hdc is the cd i guess
[08:50] <franz_> the only hdd is hda
[08:51] <franz_> CD was made with K3b, MD5sum controlled and CD verified after burn
[08:51] <franz_> without any error
[08:52] <abattoir> franz_: what about the cd check in the installer?
[08:52] <Eazy-> DaSkreech: you mean in kxb?
[08:52] <abattoir> franz_: or does this come up even before that?
[08:52] <DaSkreech> Eazy-: No In UT2004
[08:52] <Eazy-> ah
[08:52] <Eazy-> so the problem lies in UT2004 then....didnt think of that
[08:53] <Eazy-> didnt have these problem in Gnome
[08:53] <franz_> abttoir> I see it cheching then like frozen and times later it starts kubuntu without saying anything
[08:53] <canihojr> any people can help me whith x11vnc?? :(
[08:53] <abattoir> franz_: there generally is a message saying the cd passed the test
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Eazy-: I could have had a sticky Alt Key :-)
[08:53] <franz_> could not see any message abattoir... may be i was distracted...
[08:54] <abattoir> franz_: my guess is something is wrong with the CD
[08:54] <franz_> yes I know... but this is the third i do burn. all verified in any possible way and burnt at low speed
[08:55] <franz_> and none works fine
[08:55] <abattoir> franz_: because i've had this w/ scratched RWs
[08:55] <nico8481> hi
[08:55] <canihojr> hi
[08:55] <zorglu1> franz_: have you done the check procedure for the burnt cd ?
[08:56] <franz_> yes, both with k3b itself and at boot
[08:56] <sponix> is there an easy way to switch over from gdm to kdm, or another like xdm ?
[08:56] <elknof1> nixternal: sorry, but how do i check compatibilyty, cuase in the list i couldt find my keybord... actually im using an inspiron600m
[08:56] <franz_> sorry now Italy is going to play!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:56] <zorglu1> ok im no good to help tonite :)
[08:56] <zorglu1> seeya
[08:57] <elknof1> nixternal: there are several keyboards listed for dell...
[08:57] <franz_> see u after the match abattoir
[08:57] <abattoir> franz_: ok :)
[08:57] <admin_> YO!.. absolutely * awesome :-) kubuntu just installed itself on my new lappie, and left XP intact... kudos and much praise to the (k)ubuntu folks... me very happy, now I have a real laptop, not some useless winodws heap of... etc
[08:57] <ash-fox> Round one, fight!
[08:57] <nixternal> elknof1: you can try to pick on close to yours, and then edit it as needed
[08:57] <abattoir> admin_: congratulations :)
[08:58] <elknof1> nixternal: ak thanks...   leaving...
[08:58] <elknof1> take care everybody
[08:58] <elknof1> bye bye
[08:58] <nixternal> l8r
[08:58] <admin_> I feel like I've just had a new baby or something :-)
[08:59] <admin_> time for a ceegar
[08:59] <admin_> see ya'll
[09:00] <arso_> anybody here has a psp?
[09:00] <arso_> omg its  still not playing on amarok
[09:01] <arso_> woops it did :P
[09:01] <arso_> so any psp owners here,? i had plenty of converters for videos and images for psp on windows, but i donno shit for linux
[09:03] <Blissex> arso_: most are also available under Linux, for two reasons: many ''codec'' DLLs work under Linux with things like 'mplayer'/'mencoder' and the official and unofficial SDKs for PSP are on Linux.
[09:03] <canihojr> any helpme whit x11vnc?? please??
[09:03] <wilfredH> !repositories
[09:03] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:03] <arso_> i see, cool, thanx, i'll look it up
[09:03] <abattoir> arso_: search @ kde-apps.org
[09:04] <arso_> abattoir:  sure, i'll try adept too
[09:04] <waterpie> hi all
[09:04] <Ertain> I can't seem to get my floppy drive to read floppies properly.  Though my computer incurred a power surge last year (I had to gut my computer) it still seems to work.  And I'm sure the floppies I'm using don't have bad sectors.
[09:04] <DaSkreech> http://ftw.generation.no/?n=352
[09:04] <|lostbyte|> Wanderer, hi !
[09:05] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! all :P
[09:05] <waterpie> does anyone knows why dapper's amarok "plays" mp3s in 2 seconds? (so i hear nothing)
[09:05] <DaSkreech> !mp3 > waterpie
[09:06] <|lostbyte|> waterpie, because you need the mp3 support ^
[09:06] <arso_> waterpie:  i just finished setting that up, some guy explained it to me
[09:07] <canihojr> how to activate java server whit x11vnc? i have one error..... :( any helpme?
[09:07] <arso_> anyone streaming fifa?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> telnet ascii-wm 2006
[09:10] <arso_> DaSkreech:  ??
[09:10] <DaSkreech> The game streaming
[09:10] <arso_> i just type that in konsole?
[09:10] <DaSkreech> yes
[09:10] <waterpie> i have installed various things with automatix, so i think(?) i have mp3 support?
[09:11] <arso_> doubt it
[09:11] <arso_> DaSkreech:
[09:11] <DaSkreech> waterpie: Possible.. but lets make sure :)
[09:11] <arso_> elnet ascii-wm 2006
[09:11] <arso_> bash: elnet: command not found
[09:11] <DaSkreech> arso: telnet
[09:12] <waterpie> DaSkreech: :-) yes ...how?
[09:12] <arso_> woops
[09:12] <DaSkreech> waterpie: open adept?
[09:12] <DaSkreech> and search for xine
[09:12] <DaSkreech> tell me if you see libxine-extracodecs
[09:12] <arso_> DaSkreech:  so where does it load up
[09:13] <Philip5> arso: you have to type: telnet ascii-wm.net 2006
[09:13] <DaSkreech> In the konsole
[09:13] <waterpie> DaSkreech: it's not installed...ok i'll install it now
[09:13] <DaSkreech> waterpie: ok :)
[09:13] <arso_> Philip5: ya i did, waiting now
[09:14] <Philip5> you won't see much
[09:14] <Philip5> but kinda geeky fun
[09:14] <arso_> lol?
[09:14] <waterpie> DaSkreech: do i also need arts plugin fo xine?
[09:14] <arso_> telnet ascii-wm 2006
[09:14] <arso_> telnet: could not resolve ascii-wm/2006: Name or service not known
[09:15] <Philip5> arso: as i said... you have to type: telnet ascii-wm.net 2006
[09:15] <arso_> Philip5: oh      .net
[09:15] <DaSkreech> waterpie: I don't think so.
[09:15] <DaSkreech> waterpie: When it's installed close amarok and reopen it and try to play the mp3
[09:16] <arso_> Trying 213.129.247.65...
[09:16] <arso_> Connected to ascii-wm.net.
[09:16] <arso_> Escape character is '^] '.
[09:16] <arso_> so it'll open up in kaffeine? or wat
[09:16] <|lostbyte|> PhilCote, whats that ?
[09:17] <DaSkreech> No It'll open in konsole
[09:17] <arso_> lol
[09:17] <arso_> its textual!?
[09:17] <|lostbyte|> arso_, just wait on that screen for a whole..
[09:17] <DaSkreech> Corner shot :)
[09:17] <|lostbyte|> and a ascii video will play..
[09:17] <waterpie> DaSkreech: now it plays the mp3 one sec /sec (which is nice) :-) but i don't hear anything . i'll try libaerts1-xine plugin
[09:17] <|lostbyte|> arso_, nice..
[09:17] <DaSkreech> waterpie: It will play oggs?
[09:17] <Cntryboy> whats command for this lib in term? error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0
[09:17] <DaSkreech> You have one in the Examples Folder
[09:18] <|lostbyte|> arso_, how is that generated ?
[09:18] <bam_> hey quick question, I have a multi language dvd, how do I rip a specific language?
[09:18] <waterpie> DaSkreech: no. 1sec/sec, but no sound
[09:18] <DaSkreech> waterpie: For an ogg file?
[09:18] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  not yet, i am waiting
[09:19] <DaSkreech> arso_: Press Ctrl+C then run the command again :)
[09:19] <waterpie> DaSkreech: i don't hear anything from the ogg
[09:19] <arso_> ok ;)
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> arso_, i plays a video, kinda.. football related..
[09:19] <DaSkreech> waterpie: Then Codecs are not your problem
[09:19] <|lostbyte|> :P
[09:19] <arso_> lol
[09:19] <Cntryboy> anyone?
[09:19] <DaSkreech> Do have any sound at all?
[09:19] <Cntryboy> I need to download this lib. package.. libgtk-1.2.so.0
[09:20] <arso_> i typed again
[09:20] <arso_> waiting now
[09:20] <Cntryboy> sudo apt-get install libgtk-1.2.so.0?
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> Gosh.............  WOW.. its live..
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> :P
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> How dumb.
[09:20] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: Yeah :)
[09:20] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  lol
[09:20] <DaSkreech> He said straming didn't he?
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> I want a video version ... ARGH !
[09:20] <arso_> its not video?
[09:20] <arso_> WAT is it?
[09:20] <waterpie> DaSkreech: i installed arts plugin for xine, and now it is ok
[09:20] <|lostbyte|> its an ascii video, you can hardly see the players...
[09:20] <Cntryboy> how can I get this package someon libgtk-1.2.so.0
[09:20] <arso_> i want a video+audio?
[09:20] <arso_> OMG lol
[09:21] <|lostbyte|> got to sit really far from your monitor..
[09:21] <DaSkreech> waterpie: Great :)
[09:21] <crimsun> Cntryboy: install libgtk1.2
[09:21] <arso_> why didnt u tell me ascii lool
[09:21] <Cntryboy> crimsun: thx
[09:21] <DaSkreech> waterpie: Good trooubleshooting
[09:21] <arso_> so anyone knows, a VIDEO one?
[09:21] <waterpie> DaSkreech: thanks for your help! :-)
[09:21] <|lostbyte|> arso_, what did you expect from telnet.
[09:21] <Cntryboy> crimsun: E: Couldn't find package libgtk-1.2
[09:21] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  i have no idea wat telnet is :P
[09:21] <Cntryboy> repos, should be fine I updated them last night
[09:21] <Cntryboy> worked in gnome
[09:22] <crimsun> Cntryboy: you made a typo.
[09:22] <Cntryboy> oh that -
[09:22] <Cntryboy> sorry
[09:23] <Cntryboy> thanks
[09:23] <abattoir> Cntryboy: sudo kate/kwrite works now?
[09:24] <|lostbyte|> arso_, in console [09:24] <|lostbyte|> :)
[09:24] <DaSkreech> |lostbyte|: That's mean :)
[09:26] <amarokker> Hi, does anyone know an app that can do more than what it ksnapshot does?
[09:26] <amarokker> I need something as good as techsmith's snagit on win32
[09:28] <nixternal> art
[09:28] <nixternal> ksnapshot
[09:28] <nixternal> amarokker: just press 'Print Scr'
[09:28] <amarokker> heh- and then edit it in gimp? yes, thats one solution too.
[09:28] <nixternal> yup
[09:29] <nixternal> i remember snagit many moons ago
[09:29] <amarokker> I wanted to check if there's something that captures menus scrolling webpages- someth like that- oh well, if nothing else will go, i suppose ksnapshot will have to do for now
[09:30] <nixternal> amarokker: scrolling webpages?
[09:30] <arso_> i wanna watch the match :(:(:(
[09:30] <nixternal> please tell me
[09:30] <arso_> germany vs italy
[09:30] <nixternal> hurry..i gotta get going
[09:31] <amarokker> Yeah- nixternal
[09:31] <nixternal> amarokker: in order to get menus, press print screen, and then set the 'snapshot delay' to 5 seconds, enough to give you time to activate the menu you want to capture
[09:31] <amarokker> Snagit does that now- you can capture pages with deep links and pics i
[09:31] <nixternal> and then press new snapshot
[09:32] <nixternal_> l8r all
[09:32] <amarokker> nixternal_: cya :)
[09:33] <arso_> wow noone watches footbal
[09:33] <amarokker> arso_: I would, if argentina didnt go out early
[09:34] <amarokker> poor bastards- i think the world cup is utterly boring this time round.
[09:34] <arso_> lol
[09:34] <arso_> i didnt watch a single match yet :P
[09:34] <arso_> plan on streaming the one now
[09:34] <arso_> found a site
[09:34] <arso_> yagooya, chinese site
[09:34] <arso_> friend streams from it
[09:34] <amarokker> LOL
[09:34] <amarokker> The Chinks- they have it all figured it out, havent they.
[09:35] <amarokker> Oh, lemme try it.
[09:35] <arso_> lol
[09:35] <arso_> k
[09:35] <arso_> u have to sign up-free
[09:35] <amarokker> not wholly impossible- kbabel to the rescue. :P
[09:35] <james__> would anyone in here be up to walking me through setting up a dell truemobile 1470 wireless card (broadcom chipset) to work, with or without ndiswrapper?
[09:36] <james__> i has the driver installed in ndiswrapper, and it recognizes the card, but i am stuck
[09:36] <james__> it*
[09:36] <arso_> http://www.yagooya.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1#post1
[09:37] <amarokker> arso_: which app are you using for the streaming? browser?
[09:39] <dueyfinster> amarokker: I think |"Chinks" is a derogatory term....Here's a french site, no registration required, all world cup goals (in french) Its flash:
[09:39] <dueyfinster> http://www.11football.com/coupedumonde2006/
[09:40] <amarokker> dueyfinster: yes, it is- regret saying that- but no offense intended. :) thanks- will try that too
[09:40] <dueyfinster> you click on the footballs btw, to bring up the match report and goals
[09:41] <dueyfinster> amarokker: No bother ;-)
[09:41] <canihojr> hi
[09:46] <Mariano> Hi, kubuntu dvd boots but hangs while trying to mount root fs, dvd image is ok, dvd is ok...any ideas?
[09:48] <abattoir> james__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[09:51] <james__> abattoir: thank you
[09:53] <Mariano> md5 checksum is ok...
[09:59] <|lostbyte|> james__, did you knoe they have a channel ?
[10:00] <abattoir> !search broadcom
[10:00] <ubotu> Found: wifi
[10:00] <abattoir> !wifi
[10:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[10:00] <|lostbyte|> !ntpasswd
[10:00] <ubotu> I know nothing about ntpasswd
[10:01] <abattoir> |lostbyte|: the channel is #bcm43xx?
[10:01] <Raito> How would I edit the margins of my desktop? So that windows cannot go beyond the panels?
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> abattoir, no ! #bcm-users
[10:02] <|lostbyte|> Raito, beyond the panel ?
[10:02] <abattoir> |lostbyte|: thanks, i'll add a factoid about bcm43xx to ubotu
[10:03] <|lostbyte|> abattoir, hai ! your the admin ?
[10:03] <abattoir> |lostbyte|: no, lots of ppl asking about broadcom, that's why :)
[10:04] <Raito> |lostbyte|: basically I want to set the desktop margins so that windows can't go under the panels, right now, it latches on so to speak but how would I make it so that the windows can't go that way?
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> I would love to add factoids too, it would be easy for me to help people..
[10:04] <|lostbyte|> abattoir, ^^
[10:04] <abattoir> |lostbyte|: anyone can add a factiod...
[10:04] <james__> |lostbyte|: i did not know they had a channel
[10:05] <abattoir> but for unregistered/unaouthorised users, it will be reviewed by #ubuntu-ops
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> abattoir, really ! whats the syntax ? or is there a help page ?
[10:05] <abattoir> and then added
[10:05] <dueyfinster> Raito: Most options can be got be right clicking on the windows bar at the top, and selecting configure windows
[10:05] <eimajenthat> I seem to remember hearing about a tool similar to deborphan, but better
[10:05] <abattoir> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[10:05] <eimajenthat> for finding and removing stuff that isn't needed
[10:05] <|lostbyte|> abattoir, thanks..
[10:05] <abattoir> |lostbyte|: no problem :)
[10:05] <james__> how do i get rid of wifi-radar? just uninstall wih adept?
[10:05] <eimajenthat> can anyone tell me what I'm talking about?
[10:07] <bluesceada> hi
[10:07] <dueyfinster> eimajenthat: sorry.....
[10:07] <bluesceada> i want to install kubuntu on my new/old(from ebay ;-)) notebook
[10:07] <bluesceada> and i now don't know how much space it takes on root
[10:07] <bluesceada> it says minimum 2gb
[10:08] <bluesceada> in gentoo i'm familiar with my root growing up to around 10 gb
[10:09] <bluesceada> so when i want to install all different stuff in kubuntu (firefox, openoffice 2, gimp, some other smaller apps). .. how much will it take maximum for most of you?
[10:09] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: You could install it in a 2gb partition and then use tools, such as qtpart to extend
[10:09] <kbrooks> I'm using Kubuntu w/ Ubuntu. I would like ashift+numlock to work. But it doesn't.
[10:09] <bluesceada> dueyfinster: ah i don't like that so much, it's still quite buggy
[10:09] <kbrooks> It's supposed to enablee mouse keys
[10:09] <kbrooks> at least, thats what gnome calls it
[10:10] <Raito> bluesceada: That all depends on who uses the computer >_< I have a comp with a 4gig harddrive and I am fine with it
[10:10] <abattoir> !bcm43xx is To setup a wireless card with a Broadcom 43xx chipset, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper . Also look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx . #bcm-users is a dedicated channel for the open source bcm43xx driver.
[10:10] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: That depends, thats like asking how long is a piece of string!!
[10:10] <bluesceada> dueyfinster: could you tell me the used size on your root partition with kubuntu
[10:10] <bluesceada> Raito: yeh .. i mean without home dir ..
[10:10] <bluesceada> root with all except some files from me (home dir, storage directories, whatever)
[10:11] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: checking now
[10:11] <bluesceada> so what are your sizes ?
[10:11] <bluesceada> ok thx
[10:11] <bluesceada> seems 4gb should be enough, if that's all what Rait got
[10:12] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: I got 4.2gb, but I have a good few things installed, such as koffice apache etc
[10:12] <Raito> bluesceada: My whole hd is 4gig, root is something less >_>
[10:12] <bluesceada> yeh i also want to install such stuff
[10:12] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: 4gb should be plenty
[10:12] <bluesceada> Raito: yeh of course...
[10:12] <bluesceada> i said if that's all what you have
[10:12] <bluesceada> ok i will go with 4,5 ...
[10:12] <Raito> I see
[10:13] <bluesceada> dueyfinster: or also personal files and stuff there?
[10:13] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: nope, thats everything except /home dir
[10:14] <bluesceada> dueyfinster: ok much thanks for your help! :)
[10:14] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: No bother, any time!
[10:14] <Cntryboy> In konqueror where do I need to go so I can save my homepage on start up?
[10:14] <pit_> hello all
[10:14] <bluesceada> hardest thing will probably be the acpi stuff, need to disassemble the dsdt probably... and the wlan card which is a rtl8180
[10:14] <bluesceada> so... i'm continuing .. :-)
[10:14] <kbrooks> disassemble?
[10:15] <uniq> cntryboy: go to the webpage in konq. settings -> save view profile "Kubuntu Web"
[10:15] <pit_> I've a little problem I don't know how to log in root in Konsole
[10:15] <bluesceada> kbrooks: eh sry wrong .. decompile
[10:15] <kbrooks> bluesceada: if this is what i'm thinking, you're probably gonna void the warranty
[10:15] <bluesceada> then fix errors that it compiles with iasl
[10:15] <bluesceada> kbrooks: it's already,, it is a sold defect laptop from ebay
[10:15] <bluesceada> the owner was quite stupid though
[10:16] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: are you looking for Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Behavoir -> Homepage ?
[10:16] <Cntryboy> uniq: im there but it says profile management.. The page its up now is google.com/linux and I want that page to load everytime I start konqueror
[10:16] <kbrooks> bluesceada: how come
[10:16] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Do as I suggested so
[10:17] <dueyfinster> dueyfinster: Everytime you start konq as browser, it'll load up whatever you choose them
[10:17] <Cntryboy> dueyfinster: i did and put in the http://www.google.com/linux url and apply and restarted and its the same as it was lol
[10:17] <arso_> anyone got the yagooya working
[10:17] <bluesceada> kbrooks: he said someone helped him upgrading to win xp from win98, now it crashes sometimes he says .. now i thought, could just be software etc., and bought it... now i found out in the bios you can select either win98/2000 or "other" as your os .. so of course there could be some problems with xp^^
[10:17] <Cntryboy> is mozilla better than konqueror?
[10:17] <bluesceada> hmm why cant i select reiserfs as a filesystem in the kubuntu setup ??
[10:18] <bluesceada> Cntryboy: depends on what you want ;-)
[10:18] <pit_> I've a little problem I don't know how to log in root in Konsole
[10:18] <kbrooks> bluesceada: he sold it for that REASON? geez
[10:18] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: You opening it up to browse you files then. Select it from the internet menu. BTW, when you set homepage, you should be able to hit home button in it
[10:18] <Cntryboy> bluesceada: I just want a browser lol
[10:18] <kbrooks> bluesceada: definitely a stupid owner
[10:18] <Raito> Cntryboy: All depends, Konqueror has auto spell check, and Mozilla is more supported by sites (at least in my opinion)
[10:18] <bluesceada> kbrooks: yeh and win98 is too old and so ... but that made lots of people dont bid so high it seems ... it was even in the topic a big *DEFECT*
[10:19] <bluesceada> lucky buy for me :-)
[10:19] <Cntryboy> does mozilla come with kubuntu?
[10:19] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: no
[10:19] <Cntryboy> okay
[10:19] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: kubuntu is an OS
[10:19] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Firefox is more extendable and has support for more sites (like Gmail), whereas konqueror is slimmer than firefox, faster to load and integrates with kde better
[10:19] <bluesceada> Cntryboy: dont think so, but you can install it afterwards with the package manager i think
[10:19] <arso_> amarokker:   u there
[10:19] <kbrooks> bluesceada: no, it doesnt
[10:20] <eimajenthat> can anyone tell me what these errors mean? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17190
[10:20] <Cntryboy> well the home url says http://www.google.com/linux but it doesn't load that
[10:20] <kbrooks> thats a definite answer
[10:20] <Cntryboy> so i'm not sure what to do
[10:20] <Cntryboy> bluesceada: I have 2.1KB dialup super slow lol
[10:20] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Its really personal preference, you can try the big three, which are Konqueror, Firefox and Opera, see which one you'd prefer
[10:20] <bluesceada> oh
[10:20] <bluesceada> firefox is quite small to download
[10:20] <Cntryboy> what comes with ubuntu regular firefox or mozilla
[10:20] <Cntryboy> I can't remember
[10:20] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Firefox
[10:21] <Cntryboy> does kubuntu have firefox?
[10:21] <Cntryboy> it seems easier
[10:21] <bluesceada> so... still anyone here who can tell me how to select reiserfs, or tell me possible reasons why i cant select it
[10:21] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Mozilla Browser is now no longer made by Mozilla itself, but by SeaMonkey, a subdivision while they phase it out
[10:21] <kbrooks> whoo
[10:21] <kbrooks> erm
[10:21] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: wrong there
[10:21] <Cntryboy> dueyfinster: okay, well I want firefox I guess.. that way I know how to link my java to it..
[10:22] <amarokker> arso_: Yeah- but unfortunately am a bit busy and haven't actually  got down to watching or registering it- i can see it on the telly though.
[10:22] <Raito> There is something I always wanted to know, what is the big difference between firefox and mozilla?
[10:22] <Hawkwind> Mozilla still makes the products, just Mozilla is being phased out as an actual product as they now call it Seamonkey
[10:22] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: it's not *supported* by mozilla. it is MADE by mozilla
[10:22] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: Thats what I heard
[10:22] <Hawkwind> Raito: Firefox is based off the Gecko code and is much faster and lighter than Mozilla
[10:22] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: you oversimplified what you heard
[10:22] <Raito> I see
[10:23] <arso_> amarokker:  oh, i was hoping u could help me, i registered and when i run it,i get a blank page, i have java and flash and everything :(), any thoughts?
[10:23] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: Yes I know, but they no longer recommend people to get it, instead they want people to get firefox
[10:23] <Hawkwind> dueyfinster: Not true either
[10:23] <Cntryboy> so how can I get firefox working with kubuntu with out downloading it if possible?
[10:23] <kbrooks> Hawkwind: mozilla and seamonkey are seperate products
[10:23] <Hawkwind> dueyfinster: They want users to use firefox OR seamonkey as seamonkey is what used to be mozilla
[10:23] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: SeaMonkey project is meant to still fix Mozilla Suite, but its no longer actively developed
[10:23] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: Right, but seamonkey is taking the place of mozilla
[10:24] <kbrooks> Hawkwind: no,  there was no "mozilla -> seamonkey"
[10:24] <|lostbyte|> Cntryboy, huh ! weird.. huh.. ??
[10:24] <Cntryboy> what is?
[10:24] <Cntryboy> lol
[10:24] <Hawkwind> seamonkey is what is replacing mozilla.  I didn't mean they were the same
[10:24] <kbrooks> HAH |lostbyte|
[10:24] <Cntryboy> who cares about seamonkey or mozilla, how do I get firefox hahahah
[10:24] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: USE adept
[10:24] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:24] <kbrooks> ffs
[10:24] <Cntryboy> blahh
[10:24] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Its in adept
[10:24] <Cntryboy> nm
[10:24] <Cntryboy> not sure what adept is
[10:24] <amarokker> arso_: No ideas yet- havent registered yet- dueyfinster linked me to this: http://www.11football.com/coupedumonde2006/
[10:25] <amarokker> You might wanna try that.
[10:25] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: correction: it's in main
[10:25] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: Is the install manager, in the menu
[10:25] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Open up a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[10:25] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I don't wanna have to download it
[10:25] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: in main?
[10:25] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: You have to
[10:25] <Cntryboy> does kubuntu have a synaptic manager like ubuntu
[10:25] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: No way around it
[10:25] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: adept
[10:25] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: in the repository
[10:25] <Cntryboy> oh okay, everything is changed differently with kde
[10:26] <Cntryboy> lol
[10:26] <amarokker> Any thouhts on the better browser when comparing epiphany and firefox? I understand that they both use the same engine- so whats the difference there?
[10:26] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Adept will download it and install it for you, just like the command I gave you
[10:26] <amarokker> integration with gnome?
[10:26] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: okay
[10:26] <Cntryboy> Hawkwind: yah I know the commands, just wondering how to find the synaptic manager, but adept must be it then
[10:26] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: there are 4 levels of repos - main, restricted, universe and multiverse
[10:26] <DaSkreech> amarokker: Wouldn't that be better asked in #ubuntu?
[10:26] <dueyfinster> Also if anyones ointerested, google "swiftfox" its firefox optimised for your processor
[10:26] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: gotta find adept first lol everything is different lay out
[10:27] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: It should be on the panel
[10:27] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: they represent the level of support that ubuntu/canonical cann offer for the products in each repo
[10:27] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: Or again, open up a terminal and type sudo adept
[10:27] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: I know, I just got lost in the context
[10:27] <amarokker> DaSkreech: I wouldnt know- but let me ask anyway :)
[10:27] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: so there's no gui version of synatpics in like the K menu
[10:28] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: Tryna do two things at once, wasn't sure what you were tyalking about for a sec, too late after I types :-(
[10:28] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I'm sure there is, but adept should be on your panel already, towards the right
[10:28] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I don't use KDE so that's why I can't be specific
[10:28] <weedar> adept IS a GUI
[10:28] <|lostbyte|> Cntryboy, i use kde.. pick me pick me :P
[10:28] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: um, u can install synaptic, but its gnome, itll look ugly to u
[10:28] <kbrooks> it wont be integrated
[10:28] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: yah the command for adept got me to the manager, but no its not on panel
[10:28] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I just don't know where adept is located in the menus for KDE
[10:28] <arso_> amarokker:  that link u gave me doesnt work "ferme closed"
[10:29] <kbrooks> Cntryboy:
[10:29] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: K -> System -> Adept
[10:29] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: no
[10:29] <Cntryboy> dueyfinster: thx
[10:29] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: add/remove programs
[10:29] <Cntryboy> I seei t
[10:29] <kbrooks> is the simplest
[10:29] <dueyfinster> kbrooks: He wants something like synaptic!
[10:29] <kbrooks> adept is more advanced
[10:29] <Hawkwind> But K -> System -> Adept isn't wrong.
[10:30] <kbrooks> Hawkwind: I KNOW.
[10:30] <Cntryboy> to me honestly kde is better on the eyes, but gnome was simple to work around
[10:30] <Cntryboy> my 2 cents
[10:30] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: So install Gnome by doing sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:31] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: That will get you Gnome which you can use within Kubuntu
[10:31] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: nah i gotta learn this kde, I just reinstalled to kubuntu lol
[10:31] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: They are both very close in usability, I think KDE edges Gnome personally. On stability, generally in my exp. Gnome does (slightly) better
[10:31] <bluesceada> gnome offers really too less options for me
[10:31] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: You can use both and choose at login time
[10:31] <Cntryboy> dueyfinster: yah I've noticed a lot more errors trying simple things even txt apps with kde
[10:31] <Hawkwind> I don't use Gnome or KDE, so I can't compare stability to features.  I just know that KDE looks nicer to me
[10:31] <|lostbyte|> KDE is better, case closed.
[10:31] <kbrooks> dueyfinster: gnome is too simplistic
[10:32] <kbrooks> (i'm just saying)
[10:32] <bluesceada> and nautilus cant beat konqueror for my needs
[10:32] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: do u know what a troll is
[10:32] <Cntryboy> lol
[10:32] <Hawkwind> |lostbyte|: That just happens to be your opinion, not everyones
[10:32] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: I love nautilus scripts though, they are useful
[10:32] <Cntryboy> I still can't get the konqueror for internet pages to load google lol
[10:32] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: "KDE is better, case closed." is trolling, plain and simple
[10:33] <Cntryboy> I hate being stupid to this stuff
[10:33] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: www.google.com?
[10:33] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: No it's not
[10:33] <|lostbyte|> troll is moving around i circle.
[10:33] <Cntryboy> brooks google.com/linux actually
[10:33] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: It happens to be his opinion
[10:33] <Cntryboy> I want it to load each time I start konquer. for internet browsing
[10:33] <kbrooks> Hawkwind: then get me on the "what is a troll" page, if you please
[10:33] <Cntryboy> internet homepage I guess ud call it
[10:34] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: A troll is someone who joins a channel and bashes the distro/app or whatever that specific channel is about.  Or asks for help and plays like he's too dumb to achieve the things that everyone is helping him with
[10:34] <kbrooks> Cntryboy: h/o
[10:34] <bluesceada> dueyfinster: k, everything depends on what you want to do etc.
[10:34] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: In other words, if he were to join ##Gnome and say that KDE is the best and so on, that would be trolling
[10:34] <Hawkwind> kbrooks: He's far from trolling
[10:34] <dueyfinster> bluesceada: Yep, I know ;-)
[10:35] <|lostbyte|> Hawkwind, kbrooks Common ! we are on kubuntu "k" over ubuntu, definily kde is the best here.. anyways..
[10:35] <bluesceada> hmm sry to ask again, didnt find something useful, why is reiserfs removed from the kubuntu installation? some recent problem with reiser (3) ?
[10:35] <kbrooks> |lostbyte|: lol
[10:35] <Hawkwind> bluesceada: It's not.  I'm using ReiserFS in Kubuntu
[10:35] <bluesceada> how?
[10:35] <arso_> guys i need flashplayer 8 please
[10:35] <bluesceada> you cant select it in the graphical gui is what i meant :S
[10:35] <Hawkwind> bluesceada: I selected it from the partitioning menu
[10:36] <arso_> can anyone help me get flashplayer 8
[10:36] <Hawkwind> arso_: Wait til next year when it's available for linux
[10:36] <bluesceada> hm i cant :(
[10:36] <ash-fox> Doesn't the 'custom' partitioning mode crash?
[10:36] <Hawkwind> arso_: It's only avilable for Windows
[10:36] <arso_> Hawkwind:  omg :S , no solution now?
[10:36] <Hawkwind> arso_: 8.5 will be available for Linux after the first of the year
[10:36] <arso_> espn is only streaming with flashplayer 8 :='(
[10:36] <Hawkwind> ash-fox: It didn't for me
[10:37] <arso_> \oh i know
[10:37] <Cntryboy> okay back
[10:37] <arso_> i'll just go to windows
[10:37] <arso_> lol
[10:37] <arso_> i am dual booting
[10:37] <ash-fox> arso, you can get it if you buy a copy of codeweaver's crossover office
[10:37] <bluesceada> i just could select ext3,ext2, fat32/16, jfs, even ntfs, and some other...
[10:37] <Hawkwind> ash-fox: No you can't
[10:37] <Cntryboy> so how can I make konqueror internt page load up?
[10:37] <Cntryboy> home url has the url I want, but doesn't work
[10:37] <Hawkwind> ash-fox: Flash 8 isn't available there either
[10:37] <ash-fox> Eh?
[10:38] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: You need to save the profile and load it everytime
[10:38] <arso_> |lostbyte|:  wats wrong
[10:38] <bluesceada> Hawkwind: how did you work around the gui to be able to use reiser ?
[10:38] <bluesceada> use the gui, then trick it by mkreiserfs manually?
[10:38] <Hawkwind> bluesceada: There was no work around.  I just selected my partition and clicked on the option to change the FS type and went on
[10:38] <bluesceada> i cant do it here :(
[10:38] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: I saved it under profiles for web
[10:39] <bluesceada> i install it with the kubuntu 6.06 desktop install cd
[10:39] <Cntryboy> hawkwind: but it doesn't work, I hate confusing stuff, all I wanna do is a simple homepage lol
[10:39] <ash-fox> Sorry, I got confused with shockwave.
[10:39] <Hawkwind> bluesceada: Use the alternate CD
[10:39] <bluesceada> :/
[10:39] <Cntryboy> ubuntu supposed to be the easiest, but they make it confusing just the same
[10:39] <Hawkwind> Cntryboy: I don't use KDE so I don't know the details of it unfortunately
[10:39] <bluesceada> stupid, why do they remove reiserfs x.x
[10:39] <|lostbyte|> Cntryboy, what do you get then ?
[10:39] <bluesceada> i dont want to also burn another cd now ..
[10:40] <dueyfinster> Cntryboy: You can use Firefox either
[10:40] <ash-fox> Cntryboy, do you have "saved urls in profile" checked when you save?
[10:40] <bluesceada> there is even mkreiserfs and mkreiser4 on the cd ..hmh
[10:40] <bluesceada> but you cant select it ..
[10:41] <ash-fox> Sorry, "Save URLs in profile'
[10:42] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: well for profile management for kubuntu web it has a check mark below that saying save urls for profiles
[10:42] <Cntryboy> so I guess so
[10:42] <ash-fox> And it doesn't load up that page when you start konqueror?
[10:43] <Cntryboy> ash-fox no it starts up the konqueror- conquer your Desktop!
[10:43] <Cntryboy> shows home folder/storage media ect
[10:44] <ash-fox> Cntryboy, where are you starting it from?
[10:44] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: what do you mean
[10:44] <ash-fox> Where are you starting konqueror from?
[10:44] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: down in panel it says konqueror web
[10:44] <ash-fox> Internet -> Konqueror ?
[10:45] <Cntryboy> no it's in panel saying konqueror web browser
[10:45] <ash-fox> hm.
[10:45] <|lostbyte|> c
[10:45] <ash-fox> Well, that should execute 'kfmclient openProfile webbrowsing', which would be the webbrowsing profile...
[10:45] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: but even under internet kon. web does same
[10:46] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: well its not, it's loading up conquer your desktop! bs
[10:46] <Cntryboy> lol
[10:47] <Cntryboy> I got it
[10:47] <Cntryboy> I had to also be on the page I wanted it to load
[10:47] <Cntryboy> instead of just putting the url in the settings
[10:48] <ash-fox> Cntryboy, okay. let's try this from the beginning (I'll do it here too), load a different webpage, the page you want it to start with. then goto settings -> save view profile 'kubuntu web'.
[10:48] <Cntryboy> ash-fox: its okay bro I got it :)
[10:48] <ash-fox> Make sure the 'save URLs in profile' is checked, and hit 'Ok' :)
[10:48] <ash-fox> Ah.. I need to pay more attention :P
[10:52] <CaBlGuY> anyone awake??
[10:52] <dueyfinster> CaBlGuY: Yes
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> ya know how to edit text in Gimp?
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> make it larger, and change the styel, etc..
[10:53] <CaBlGuY> *style
[10:54] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: Have you asked that in #Gimp ?
[10:54] <dueyfinster> CaBlGuY: Sorry I don't have it, someone else would better answer that :-)
[10:54] <|lostbyte|> CaBlGuY, choose the text tool and the modifiers will appear below it.
[10:54] <|lostbyte|> you can change from there.
[10:54] <CaBlGuY> Hmmmmm
[10:55] <CaBlGuY> not seien anyu modifiers..  :/
[10:56] <CaBlGuY> lemme go ask in Gimp b4 Hawkwind gets his panties in a bunch...
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> CaBlGuY, http://bachue.com/alejo/gimptutorial.html
[10:56] <|lostbyte|> scroll down to text tool.
[10:58] <bojan> does Adept or apt-get keep some sort of log
[10:58] <bojan> somewhere?
[10:58] <David42UK> hi all, does anyone know how to get the sagem fast 800 modem working under linux, I have tried everything
[10:59] <h3sp4wn> bojan: aptitude does
[10:59] <|lostbyte|> bojan, /var/log/dpkg.log
[10:59] <Hawkwind> CaBlGuY: It just makes more sense to ask an app specific question in the apps channel where the experts are
[11:00] <slow-motion> re
[11:08] <David42UK> as anybody built the eagle-usb driver fro linux
[11:09] <WiLd_TiGeR> hi all
[11:09] <h3sp4wn> David42UK: Neutrinomass if I remember rightly (may be wrong)
[11:10] <David42UK> whats that h3sp4wn
[11:11] <h3sp4wn> Its a person (i.e nickname Neutrinomass)
[11:11] <David42UK> cheers, I'd like to know how he did it
[11:12] <WiLd_TiGeR> +R
[11:12] <WiLd_TiGeR> ops
[11:13] <h3sp4wn> David42UK: Have you asked in #ubuntu (its not kde specific and there are more people there)
[11:13] <David42UK> i'll try that thanks h3sp4wn
[11:16] <sysrpl> hello, could i get some help installing a package with dependencies that are in conflict?
[11:16] <sysrpl> i am a linux noob, so i'm having these problems .. :p
[11:16] <h3sp4wn> Is the package built for kubuntu (I would expect not if you are having dependancy problems)
[11:16] <sysrpl> the package is libgtk2.0-dev
[11:16] <WiLd_TiGeR> hello
[11:16] <WiLd_TiGeR> I`m new here
[11:17] <WiLd_TiGeR> can I ask you somehting
[11:17] <omeow> No, asking is forbidden.
[11:17] <sysrpl> which isin conflict with depends on libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev; broken packages
[11:17] <WiLd_TiGeR> ok
[11:18] <omeow> Of course you can ask things here, but don't ask to ask, just ask. It saves us from asking another question.
[11:18] <WiLd_TiGeR> sorry about that
[11:18] <WiLd_TiGeR> bye
[11:18] <omeow> Don't be silly.
[11:18] <sysrpl> i on't think libgtk2.0-dev is built for kubuntu
[11:18] <WiLd_TiGeR> :) ok
[11:18] <sysrpl> so what are my options?
[11:18] <omeow> Now.. what's your question? Please try to be as specific as possible.
[11:18] <DaSkreech> !ask
[11:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:19] <WiLd_TiGeR> how to register
[11:19] <sysrpl> is that directed at me? i thought i asked a question
[11:19] <DaSkreech> sysrpl: I wouldn't trust the libcairo2-dev package :)
[11:19] <WiLd_TiGeR> because I want to chat with the people here
[11:19] <sysrpl> well i need it for a few different tools
[11:19] <DaSkreech> !register
[11:19] <Hawkwind> WiLd_TiGeR: /msg nickserv help
[11:19] <omeow> Type /query nickserv and then type help register
[11:19] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[11:19] <sysrpl> noteably lazurus and gimpshop
[11:19] <Hawkwind> WiLd_TiGeR: But it's best to ask that question in somewhere like #Freenode
[11:20] <WiLd_TiGeR> but there is a little problem
[11:20] <sysrpl> so ....
[11:20] <WiLd_TiGeR> I`m bullgarian and I dont speak English very well
[11:21] <Hawkwind> WiLd_TiGeR: There are people from all over the world there in #Freenode that can help you
[11:22] <Hawkwind> WiLd_TiGeR: #Freenode is the help channel for the network unlike this channel that is a help channel for a specific linux distro
[11:22] <WiLd_TiGeR> ok
[11:22] <WiLd_TiGeR> thank you
[11:24] <sysrpl> when installing programs (in my case a pascal compiler) what directory is a good place to put it? the default is pointing me to /usr or /usr/local but a guide says /opt/fpc/bin/fpc
[11:24] <gatekeeper> evening all
[11:26] <uniq> sysrpl: I would've used /usr/local but some people use /opt.
[11:26] <sja> and I'd use /usr/local/bin -- take your pick
[11:27] <sysrpl> i have no idea what the different direcories are for on linx other than my home directory
[11:27] <sysrpl> i used /opt/fpc/bin/fpc
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> Why not ~/bin
[11:27] <uniq> sja: sure, /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share.. I figure it would include more than one binary file.
[11:29] <sja> there's a decent description of the linux directory structure at http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[11:29] <sysrpl> crap, is there a deltree comand in linux?
[11:29] <sja> rm -rf
[11:29] <sja> be REAL careful with that one
[11:32] <Sansana> hi
[11:33] <sysrpl> is ~/.bash_profile like an autoexec.bat?
[11:34] <sja> more or less ... you also have ~/.bashrc
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> Not really
[11:34] <h3sp4wn> autoexec.bat would be more like /etc/rc.local
[11:35] <sysrpl> well when does ~/.bash_profile get executed?
[11:36] <h3sp4wn> When a login shell is executed
[11:36] <sysrpl> so each terminal window i open runs it?
[11:36] <sysrpl> or only when i login at the kubuntu login screen?
[11:37] <sja> .bash_profile is usually used to read .bashrc, if it's defined, and to set user specific environment and startup programs
[11:37] <sysrpl> so my two above questions
[11:39] <amarokker> Hi, can anyone try and see if you can access this: http://fcn.twilightparadox.com/
[11:41] <abattoir> amarokker: Could not connect to host fcn.twilightparadox.com.
[11:41] <sja> sysrpi -> don't remember -- I BELIEVE they execute only for the current session
[11:41] <amarokker> abattoir: - k, thanks
[11:41] <|lostbyte|> amarokker, , your subdomain aint working..
[11:41] <sja> ie, current terminal session ... but don't bank on that .. check man bash
[11:43] <sysrpl> thats cool ... i edited it to include the the path of a program i installed
[11:43] <sysrpl> but now i need to resolve the package is libgtk2.0-dev dependcies problems keeping it from being installed
[11:44] <gatekeeper> amarokker: you could always test it yourself via a free proxy server: http://www.techdebates.com/people/william/?page_id=31
[11:44] <sja> are you trying to install it via apt or synaptic?
[11:46] <amarokker> Yeah- gatekeeper- thanks. I think the problem might be the networking itself- i have an eagle-usb modem connecting me to the internet- i dont know how to get it to work through the NIC
[11:46] <sysrpl> sja: both
[11:46] <sysrpl> sja: i get the same break on both
[11:47] <sysrpl> conflicts with depends on libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev; broken packages
[11:47] <sja> sysrpl -> then sorry, don't know, never tried to install it and I thought that apt would resolve the dependencies for you
[11:47] <sysrpl> thanks though
[11:48] <sysrpl> i don't even know where to begin searching on how to fix the issue
[11:48] <DaSkreech> sysrpl: Don't trust libcairo2-dev :)
[11:48] <sja> you might try apt-get --fix-broken
[11:48] <osh> what was the command to change java version?
[11:49] <sja> see ...http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/man/man8/apt-get.8.html
[11:50] <sysrpl> i wote and compiled a hello world command line app. why do i have to type ./hello to run it rather than just typing hello ?
[11:51] <sja> sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:51] <etness> kubuntu version powerpc is only for 64 bit?
[11:52] <sja> sysrpl -> always wondered about that myself ... saw a good explanation once but don't remember what it was
[11:53] <sysrpl> maybe to prevent people from accidentlly running programs?
[11:53] <uniq> etness: no, 32bit.
[11:54] <sysrpl> though if the program is in the path you on't need to prepend the name with special characters
[11:54] <uniq> sysrpl: because the directory where 'hello' is is not in your PATH environment variable.
[11:55] <satafterh> anyone know of a good pitcure editing software for linux?
[11:55] <uniq> sysrpl: if you run 'echo $PATH' you will get a list of directories where the shell searches for binaries to execute without the ./
[11:55] <sysrpl> ty
[11:56] <uniq> you can add '.' to PATH if you want to.
[11:57] <sysrpl> well i can't build lazarus without installing libgtk2.0-dev
[11:57] <sysrpl> but libgtk2.0-dev refuses to install
[11:57] <sysrpl> :(
[11:57] <uniq> what is the error?
[11:57] <sysrpl> conflicts with depends on libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev; broken packages
[11:58] <sysrpl> conflicts with depends on libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev; broken packages 4 h3sp4wn
[11:58] <Hawkwind> sysrpl: I've got the same problem, as does DaSkreech
[11:58] <sysrpl> lol
[11:59] <h3sp4wn> sysrpl: I have had that problem before but I can't remember how I got round it what are you trying to compile ?
[11:59] <uniq> i can install libgtk2.0-dev without any problems. what's the conflicting package?
[11:59] <sysrpl> lazarus-0.9.10-0.tar.gz
[12:00] <Hawkwind> uniq: http://pastebin.ca/79094
[12:00] <sysrpl> the conflicting packages are libpango1.0-dev and libcairo2-dev
[12:00] <Hawkwind> uniq: Maybe that will help you a bit with this problem
[12:00] <uniq> hawkwind: thanks.. will take a look.
[12:01] <kbrooks>  /join #python
[12:01] <kbrooks> er
[12:02] <uniq> hawkwind: is this edgy
[12:02] <uniq> ?
[12:02] <Hawkwind> uniq: No, this is Dapper
[12:02] <Hawkwind> uniq: DaSkreech and I both have the issue currently
[12:02] <uniq> hawkwind: ok, can you run 'apt-cache madsion  libcairo2' and paste the output to a paste-page?
[12:03] <Hawkwind> uniq: Invalid operation: madsion
[12:03] <Hawkwind> uniq: Should that be madison ?
[12:03] <uniq> hawkwind: sorry, yes. madison
[12:04] <sysrpl> bbiab going to cook some spaghetti
[12:04] <Hawkwind> uniq: http://pastebin.ca/79095
[12:05] <uniq> hawkwind: ok, the unofficial http://www.beerorkid.com and http://xgl.compiz.info archives makes problems for you.
[12:06] <uniq> hawkwind: sudo apt-get install libcairo2=1.0.4-0ubuntu1
[12:06] <sysrpl> jesus spaghetti has a lot of calories ... over 1000 per serving
[12:07] <Hawkwind> uniq: Would it be best if I remove those sources since I don't use compiz/XGL ?
[12:08] <uniq> hawkwind: yes.