[01:33] <zul> bleah...I hate being sick
[01:33] <[eXr] > ?
[01:40] <crimsun> sorry to hear, zul. Feel better soon.
[01:41] <zul> yeah specailly i had the day off today :(
[04:12] <zul> BenC: ping
[06:37] <renewip> hi, can I write on ntfs partition if I rebuild ubuntu kernel ???
[01:58] <zul> hey
[02:18] <tseng> all the .17 kernels will boot and then hang Waiting for root filesystem...
[02:18] <tseng> did I miss some important annoucement?
[02:18] <zul> yeah known bug
[02:18] <tseng> ok.
[02:18] <zul> its got to do with base-files
[02:47] <thuglife> is anyone here who is actually a member of the kernel team?
[02:47] <zul> yes several people mostly idling though
[02:49] <thuglife> ok. because i want to help with the ia64 port but it hard to do it w/o them
[02:49] <thuglife> :)
[02:49] <zul> yes it is
[02:51] <makx> thuglife: klibc needs ia64, atm we build it static on this port
[02:51] <makx> s/ia64/ia64 love/
[02:52] <thuglife> how comes that klibc does not have ia64 support?
[02:52] <makx> it has but works only static
[02:52] <makx> i thought you were a porter eager of work :-P
[02:53] <thuglife> if there is something to work on yes
[02:53] <makx> yeah fix it for shared lib :)
[02:54] <thuglife> hehe
[03:38] <zul> BenC: ping when you wake up
[04:40] <ogra> meep
[04:40] <zul> ogra: i think BenC might be on holiday today...4th of july
[04:41] <ogra> apparently 2.6.17-4-powerpc has no modular i2c_keywest driver anymore ...
[04:41] <ogra> seems thats the cause of my keyboard not working
[04:41] <zul> hmmm..
[04:42] <ogra> at least thats the only difference i see in both lsmod outputs 
[04:42] <ogra> (both = 2.6.15-25powerpc vs the recent edgy one)
[04:42] <zul> ill see if i can submit a patch tonight if i have time
[04:57] <BenC> ogra: i2c-keywest is gone
[04:58] <ogra> BenC, any idea why i can try about my keyboard ?
[04:58] <BenC> there's only i2c-powermac now, and it is built-in
[04:58] <ogra> yeah, i noticed that the HW was recognized in dmesg
[04:58] <BenC> try the adb modules
[04:58] <ogra> ok
[05:00] <makx> why is i2c-powermac built-in?
[05:01] <zul> BenC: are you going to merge the new kernel-package? because there is some crack that i might find useful...ie the xen-subarch from debian
[05:02] <ogra> hmm, how should that module be named ?
[05:02] <ogra> there is no trace of andthing with adb in the name on my disk
[05:12] <BenC> makx: because ppl upgrading from dapper wont get it loaded by default when they need it
[05:13] <BenC> zul: I have a xen patch for kernel-package if it want it
[05:13] <zul> yes please :)
[05:13] <BenC> ogra: find /lib/modules/2.6.17-4-powerpc/ -name '*adb*' doesn't produce anything?
[05:14] <ogra> if i only could copy/paste without my keyboard
[05:14] <BenC> zul: sent...if you want to do a kernel-package upload with it, then have at it :)
[05:14] <cypher_> BenC, i see a bug in hibernation
[05:14] <ogra> BenC, nope, neither does locate
[05:14] <zul> ok i will ;)
[05:15] <BenC> ogra: Hmm...give me a minute
[05:15] <ogra> dont put to much time into it, youre supposed to be drunk and burn crackers
[05:16] <BenC> it's 11am :P
[05:16] <zul> you are late ;)
[05:16] <BenC> although I have a beer, I wont get drunk till much later :)
[05:17] <BenC> plus we can't buy decent firecrackers in my nazi state
[05:17] <tseng> BenC: you live in PA too?
[05:17] <ogra> lol
[05:17] <BenC> we get "fountains"
[05:17] <BenC> heh, no VA
[05:17] <makx> BenC: the previous i2c-keywest would be loaded by initramfs-tools
[05:17] <tseng> in Spain people were seating off fireworks all week
[05:17] <tseng> right off the beach
[05:18] <BenC> we can't buy anything that leaves the ground under it's own power, or creates compression in order to produce a loud bang
[05:18] <BenC> makx: almost 100% of powermac systems want that module loaded
[05:19] <BenC> makx: On my system i2c-keywest was only loaded because the installer had put it in /etc/modules
[05:19] <BenC> if that's changed, I wasn't aware of it
[05:23] <makx> BenC: yes initramfs-tools took charge to load it early
[05:24] <makx> did the same for i2c-powermac on Debian
[05:25] <BenC> ogra:
[05:25] <BenC> linux-source-2.6.17 (2.6.17-4.6) edgy; urgency=low
[05:25] <BenC>   * Update to 2.6.17.3
[05:25] <BenC>   * Updates from dapper.
[05:25] <BenC>   * powerpc: Re-enable ADB (not sure how that got turned off).
[05:25] <BenC>     - Malone #50976
[05:25] <BenC> my mistake, it is enabled in today's upload :)
[05:25] <ogra> yay, thanks !
[05:26] <BenC> ogra: is sound working for you?
[05:40] <zul> BenC: should i bump it from dapper to edgy
[05:41] <ogra> BenC, yep
[05:41] <ogra> the default volume changed apparently, but  else it works fine
[05:55] <BenC> zul: yes
[05:55] <BenC> ogra: can you do "lsmod | grep aoa" to make sure you are using snd_aoa (that's what I'm most interested in)?
[05:56] <jbailey> BenC: g'm!
[06:00] <ogra> BenC, aoa all over :)
[06:02] <BenC> jbailey: hey!
[06:02] <BenC> ogra: sweet...snd_aoa should make a lot of ppc users happy
[06:02] <ogra> works flawless here
[06:03] <ogra> oh, did i mention my suspend light is used as HDD light here ?
[06:59] <zul> BenC: new kernel package uploaded
[07:01] <jbailey> zul: Sans null pointer dereferences? =)
[07:02] <zul> jbailey: frig..
[07:02] <zul> then wtf?
[07:02] <jbailey> I haven't tried it since this morning with the -4 upload.
[07:02] <jbailey> But the ppc64 crashed on it, I think in the same place.
[07:02] <jbailey> I won't be able to try i386 until I get a new power cord.
[07:02] <zul> oh i thought you were talking about grub...
[07:03] <zul> i just uploaded kernel-package ;)
[07:03] <zul> avec xen support
[07:03] <jbailey> Ah, no. I tought you meant you uploaded a new linux-image. =)
[07:03] <zul> nope..
[07:04] <zul> i would be slaugherted if i did
[07:17] <BenC> jbailey: guess It's time for me to update my G5 and see how it works
[07:18] <jbailey> BenC: Sure.  What's annoying is that usplash hides oopses.
[07:18] <jbailey> I wonder if there's a way of doing a last-effort chvt in there.
[07:20] <zul> it would be cool if you could do like an alt-f6 and see the boot messages there
[07:21] <mjg59> alt+f1 is supposed to work
[07:24] <jbailey> mjg59: Even after an oops?/
[07:27] <mjg59> Depends how wedged it is
[07:27] <mjg59> If userspace has been killed, then there's no way to do anything
 Linus just took the hdrinstall stuff
[10:27] <jbailey> BenC: ^^
[10:27] <jbailey> Can you pull that from linus' git tree into ours next time you'r'e doing backports?