[07:08] <zul> @schedule montreal
[07:08] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Montreal: 04 Jul 16:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 16:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 08:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[07:12] <rodarvus> @schedule Sao_Paulo
[07:12] <Ubugtu> Schedule for America/Sao_Paulo: 04 Jul 17:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 17:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 16:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 17:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 09:00: Edubuntu | 12 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[07:16] <dholbach> Seveas: you implemented that @worldcup command? :-p
[07:17] <zul> hehe...i hope the germans loose ;)
[07:17] <dholbach> I wouldn't have thought they manage to win the last game, so I'm the wrong one to ask :)
[07:18] <jsgotangco> bah they were lucky
[09:32] <Klaidas> @schedule VIlnius
[09:32] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Vilnius: 04 Jul 23:00: Technical Board | 05 Jul 23:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 23:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 15:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 05:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[09:51] <\sh> morning people
[09:51] <Klaidas> morning
[09:51] <Klaidas> pretty much evening here, tho :)
[09:52] <Klaidas> Tue Jul  4 22:54:25 EEST 2006
[09:52] <\sh> well, it's 21;52 UTC+2
[09:53] <\sh> I have a flaky umts connection
[09:54] <\sh> hey scott
[09:54] <Keybuk> heyhey
[09:54] <Klaidas> the meeting must go on ;)
[09:54] <\sh> I'm sitting outside with a flaky umts connection
[09:54] <\sh> if we can manage it, I would like to put my request as first on the list
[09:59] <Keybuk> Hi everybody, at the moment there's just me
[10:00] <Keybuk> I'm pinging other TB members to see whether they've forgotten
[10:00] <Keybuk> mdz, at least, is on holiday today
[10:00] <Keybuk> some celebration of the time the americans had to get the french to fight a war for them, or something
[10:00] <\sh> don't tell me , the TB meeting is postponed...I just managed to get a UTMS modem ;)
[10:01] <mjg59> Evening
[10:01] <Keybuk> right, we have Q
[10:01] <Keybuk> let us begin
[10:02] <Keybuk> \sh has asked to go first, due to a flaky modem
[10:02] <Keybuk> \sh: off you go
[10:02] <\sh> thx
[10:02] <\sh> hi, my name is Stephan Hermann, I think most of you know me
[10:03] <\sh> I disabled my developer rights the last months, because of personal problems
[10:03] <\sh> but these personal problems are solved, and I want to re-apply for motu and core.
[10:04] <\sh> that's why I'm here today...
[10:04] <Keybuk> mjg59: any thoughts here?
[10:05] <mjg59> I don't have any objection
[10:05] <Keybuk> myself neither, \sh appears to be active again, and has been stuck in sponsor hell for a while
[10:05] <mjg59> Though we haven't really got any formal process, this seems similar to the Debian emeritus process
[10:05] <Keybuk> he's sufficiently proved, to my mind, that he's able to resume his duties again
[10:05] <mjg59> I agree
[10:06] <Keybuk> \sh: welcome back
[10:06] <mjg59> Ok. Core candidates?
[10:06] <ogra> \sh, congrats
[10:06] <mjg59> There's a couple on the list, are any of them here?
[10:06] <\sh> Thanks a lot...so if anyone put me back into the teams, I can upload tomorrow a lot of stuff I have on my laptop
[10:07] <LaserJock> wahoo \sh
[10:07] <Keybuk> rodarvus: you're up, would you care to introduce yourself
[10:07] <rodarvus> sure
[10:07] <Keybuk> your past experience
[10:07] <Keybuk> and what you'll be doing for Ubuntu
[10:07] <rodarvus> I'm Rodrigo Novo, have been doing linux distro development for the last 9 years
[10:08] <rodarvus> (I worked at Conectiva, Freedows Consortium and Nokia Institute of Technology)
[10:08] <rodarvus> at conectiva I used to do rpm packaging but the rest of the job was basically the same as in ubuntu distribution
[10:08] <rodarvus> at INdT (Nokia institute...) I worked on the "platform sdk"
[10:09] <rodarvus> which are the core packages + development packages, run inside scratchbox, to do development for Maemo platform
[10:09] <rodarvus> I was hired by Canonical three weeks ago
[10:09] <rodarvus> to work mainly on Edubuntu, and in the near future, OLPC
[10:09] <rodarvus> (hopefully a Ubuntu community effort)
[10:09] <rodarvus> mjg59, thats why I asked you about OLPC yesterday, actually :)
[10:10] <rodarvus> right now, I'm working on X packages for Edgy
[10:10] <rodarvus> more specifically, I'm working on a spec with the description and list of the changes (which are quite big)
[10:10] <\sh> rodarvus: so you are replacing deniels
[10:10] <Keybuk> what's the general play for X in Edgy?
[10:10] <Keybuk> s/play/plan/
[10:10] <rodarvus> and am already working on integrating changes from debian xserver-xorg-video-* into our video drivers
[10:11] <rodarvus> Keybuk, I had relatively little time to talk with infinity, as he went on vacation a few days ago
[10:11] <rodarvus> (two days after I started the task)
[10:11] <rodarvus> the plan is to integrate better our X packages with debians
[10:11] <rodarvus> as we don't have the manpower to maintain them ourselves
[10:11] <mjg59> Sounds like a good start
[10:12] <mjg59> Are we moving to 7.1?
[10:12] <\sh> sounds great
[10:12] <rodarvus> mjg59, yes, hopefully even in time for edgy
[10:12] <rodarvus> the first part of the job is to base our package on theirs, though
[10:12] <\sh> rodarvus: do we get all transitional packages as debian?
[10:12] <rodarvus> and do like we do with Gnome - just diverge on upstream versions
[10:12] <rodarvus> \sh, yes, this is the plan
[10:13] <mjg59> rodarvus: How much experience have you of Debian packaging?
[10:14] <rodarvus> mjg59, I've been doing this daily for the last few years
[10:14] <rodarvus> and I have very strong knowledge of packaging policy itself
[10:14] <rodarvus> (which is the most important part, I believe)
[10:14] <Riddell> rodarvus: what experience do you have relevant to edubuntu?
[10:14] <rodarvus> in this case, I have almost 9 years of experience (counting rpm and deb packaging)
[10:15] <\sh> rodarvus: why do you want to do the packaging of Xorg for ubuntu? 
[10:15] <rodarvus> Riddell, I have little experience with edubuntu itself - I have some (previous) experience with thinclients (which is related to LTSP, and thus, edubuntu)
[10:16] <rodarvus> \sh, partly because it is in a semi-abandoned status in Ubuntu
[10:16] <rodarvus> and partly because I want to be involved in the maintenance of X packages
[10:16] <rodarvus> (which are important on any linux distro, of course)
[10:17] <\sh> rodarvus: I'm just asking because of the "sometimes" political indifference between ubuntu and debian....so I would like to see if someone tries to combine the affords of packaging between ubuntu and debian....thx for your answer :)
[10:17] <rodarvus> Riddell, thinclients are a very common setup in Brazil, and I have done a "edubuntu-like" package setup for Conecitva Linux in the past (though not for educational purposes)
[10:17] <mjg59> Keybuk: Any more questions?
[10:18] <Keybuk> I have none, I've had the opportunity to meet rodarvus in person in Paris
[10:18] <ogra> rodarvus will take a bunch of responsibilitys in the edgy ltsp development
[10:18] <rodarvus> ogra, right, I have a few (three) LTSP-related specs to complete on Edgy timeframe
[10:18] <ogra> (and hopefully beyond :) )
[10:18] <rodarvus> :)
[10:18] <\sh> If keybuk met rodarvus I
[10:19] <\sh> 'm second the decision
[10:19] <\sh> s/if/when/
[10:19] <Keybuk> mjg59: any more questions from you?
[10:19] <mjg59> Nope, I'm happy
[10:20] <Keybuk> ok, votes
[10:20] <Keybuk> +1 from me, I'm confident he'll do a good job
[10:20] <mjg59> 1 from me
[10:21] <Keybuk> mjg59: + or - ? :)
[10:21] <ogra> well 1 > 0 :)
[10:21] <mjg59> Congratulations!
[10:21] <mjg59> Keybuk: I'll let you decide
[10:21] <\sh> congrats rodarvus and welcome to ubuntu :)
[10:21] <ogra> congrats rodarvus !
[10:21] <rodarvus> thanks :)
[10:22] <Keybuk> anybody else applying for core-dev/
[10:22] <LaserJock> rodarvus: \o/
[10:22] <mjg59> We'll move onto universe if nobody speaks up in the next minute or so...
[10:23] <Keybuk> there's nobody else on my list, anyway
[10:23] <Keybuk> so, universe
[10:23] <Keybuk> lukketto?  present or ping'able by anyone?
[10:23] <Keybuk> bluekuja: present?
[10:23] <Keybuk> id_sonic?  present or ping'able by anyone?
[10:24] <Keybuk> zbowling?  present or ping'able by anyone?
[10:25] <Keybuk> bueller?
[10:25] <Keybuk> bueller?
[10:26] <bddebian> heh
[10:27] <Keybuk> right then
[10:27] <Keybuk> any other business?
[10:27] <Keybuk> anyone want to comment on anything edgy related?
[10:27] <ogra> it sucks to have no keyboard supoort on ibooks
[10:27] <ogra> edgy related ^^^
[10:27] <Riddell> are all the specs going to be reviewed by thursday?
[10:28] <Keybuk> Riddell: good point
[10:28] <Keybuk> mdz send an e-mail to u-d-a today
[10:28] <Keybuk> basically, if you have a spec that has not yet been approved
[10:28] <Keybuk> FIND A REVIEWER
[10:28] <Keybuk> https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-reviewers
[10:28] <Keybuk> those people can review your spec and get it to Pending Approval
[10:29] <Keybuk> members of the TB (myself, mjg59, mdz) and Kamion can approve specs
[10:29] <slomo_> ogra: that's fixed now
[10:29] <slomo_> ogra: well, will be with the next kernel upload
[10:29] <Keybuk> it is _your_ responsibility as a spec author to drive it to approval
[10:29] <ogra> slomo_, i know
[10:29] <Keybuk> don't leave it too late either, the reviewer may have many comments that need addressing
[10:30] <ogra> slomo_, i still always type on the wrong keyboard :P
[10:31] <Keybuk> ok
[10:31] <Keybuk> end of meeting
[10:31] <Keybuk> thanks everybody
[10:31] <ogra> thanks Keybuk 
[10:35] <bddebian> ogra: :-)
[10:48] <sabdfl> evening all
[10:49] <jenda> @schedule Prague
[10:49] <Ubugtu> Schedule for Europe/Prague: Current meeting: Technical Board | 05 Jul 22:00: Edubuntu | 06 Jul 21:00: Edubuntu Cookbook | 06 Jul 22:00: Ubuntu Development Team | 12 Jul 14:00: Edubuntu | 13 Jul 04:00: Ubuntu Development Team
[10:49] <jenda> evening, sabdfl
[10:49] <zul> evening sabdfl 
[10:49] <sabdfl> apologies for being late, am i catching the tail end of the meeting?
[10:49] <ogra> sabdfl, meeting is over 
[10:49] <ogra> it was pretty short
[10:50] <sabdfl> any fun decisions?
[10:50] <ogra> reapproval of \sh as uploader
[10:50] <ogra> approval of rodarvus as main uploader
[10:50] <ogra> thats it
[10:50] <ogra> and a call for us to get our specs reviewed :)
[10:52] <sabdfl> specs specs specs!
[10:52] <sabdfl> the mating call of ubuntu core devs
[10:52] <ogra> heh
[10:53] <rodarvus> :)