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lemurCntryboy: sorry about your slow dialup.  Maybe you should make friends with someone in the area who has a faster connection. ;)  Join an LUG or hang out with IT people12:01
Dr_Williselement,  stick with the good brand names.12:01
Kibouwhat's a "high-end" dvd burner?12:01
kordokuvasthere's no dc++ and how to download it and run eith synap when it's everywhere written i have to go to some directories and compile some sourse12:01
Dr_Williselement,  ive had great luck with plextor.12:01
lemuror get a wireless rig and leech a hotspot. In the name of GNU!12:01
LjLa dvd burner placed on the roof12:01
elementDr_Willis, SATA or IDE?12:01
mweelement: About all burners work with linux12:01
Jack_Sparrowtechnel: I will walk you through that if you need..12:01
LjLkordokuvas: wha?12:01
Dr_Williselement,  im all ide12:01
Cntryboylemur: 5 min away they have it, but don't know too many ppl here because i just moved here a year ago..12:01
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frying_fishkordokuvas: there is dc++12:01
LjLkordokuvas: you don't have to compile nothin' from source12:01
Dr_Williskordokuvas,   Tip #5 - when asking a question, dont be vague and rambling.12:02
elementDr_Willis, ah, I went SATA-II for my new system, so I have 2 320gb drives sitting here...waiting to order the rest of the hardware now.12:02
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kordokuvasu call this inteligent OS when u need to spend hours and came out with still nothing,can't even install a single program12:02
Dr_Williselement,  ive not even seen a sata cdrom yet12:02
redguy!universe12:02
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:02
frying_fishit is either known as dcpp or, if you want something else try valknut12:02
lemurkordokuvas: there is a DC++ client for linux.  If it's not in the repositories, you will have to install it manually.  If it is, then alrighty, but it probably won't be found in the base repo (probably universe or multiverse)12:02
elementDr_Willis, plextor has one, but it has some compat issues with mobos12:02
lemurno word on what you want that horrid program for in the first place12:02
frying_fishkordokuvas: if its really that bad for you, then stop whinging and go back to windows.12:02
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Dr_Williskordokuvas,  lack of effort on your part is not a failure of the os.12:02
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kordokuvasI see how helful you are12:02
frying_fishAnd as the others said, a lack of effort on your part is you failing, not the OS.12:03
Dr_Williskordokuvas,  we see how 'thoughtfull' you are.12:03
technelJack_Sparrow, I am going to restart and see if Diskmounter worked12:03
Kibouhe's just trolling..12:03
LjLkordokuvas: you're a troll. you're boring. you've bored me. we're not here to hear you whining, and we're not here to hear you saying that linux is bad every 2 minutes. stop it now.12:03
Jack_Sparrowcool12:03
charle97!linus12:03
ubotuI know nothing about linus12:03
redguykordokuvas, I've had it with you12:03
kordokuvas100 times told me to get the fuck outta here and go to windows12:03
Dr_WillisKibou,  yep. i agree12:03
charle97!linux12:03
ubotulinux is the kernel (core) of the Ubuntu operating system. Many operating systems use Linux as kernel. For more information on Linux in general, visit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux12:03
elementDr_Willis, so you think this will work just fine? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682724900312:03
lemurkordokuvas: if you don't improve your attitude you are lining yourself up for administrative action.  We're here to help you as best we can, but you have to meet us halfway12:03
frying_fishkordokuvas: http://linuxdcpp.berlios.de/articles.php?um=index12:03
kordokuvasthen u say people should use Linux12:03
Dr_Williselement,  im not one to ask for that. id say google12:03
redguykordokuvas, read the guide I told you about12:03
frying_fishthat is the linuxdc++ client the "official" one anyway.12:03
kordokuvasyeah,right12:03
LjLkordokuvas: i said, STOP IT NOW12:03
LjL!ops12:03
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!12:03
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elementDr_Willis, google doesn't know much better :P12:04
redguykordokuvas, red the !universe link ubotu will give you12:04
redguykordokuvas, install dcgui212:04
charle97!sources.list12:04
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:04
redguy!tell kordokuvas about universe12:04
eromerohi there :) hey any1 knows how do i tell ubuntu not to load certain modules at boot?12:04
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Dr_Williseromero,  there is a blacklist file in /etc/hotplug.d/ I think :P12:04
frying_fisheromero: add them to /etc/blacklist12:04
Cntryboylemur: let me try this sudo chmod 777 /var/cache/apt/archives12:04
Cntryboylast resort I guess12:05
kordokuvasavery1 is telling me different thing12:05
frying_fishDr_Willis: I don't think hotplug is with dapper (so if they are using that it won't work)12:05
LjLkordokuvas: that's because there is more than one way to do the same thing.12:05
kordokuvascompletly lose any idea of what to do12:05
ompaulkordokuvas, there are many ways to do a job12:05
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eromerowhere's the file that tells ubuntu which modules to load?12:05
Dr_Willisfrying_fish,  that explains why i cant find it on this box now! :P but its on my other box! lol12:05
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lemurCntryboy: that will give everyone read/write/list access to that directory.  Since you arleady have read access, you perfectly covered.  I think the problem here is with the destination12:05
frying_fishDr_Willis: yeah, dapper uses udev not hotplug12:06
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Dr_Willisfrying_fish,  im soo confused. :) lol12:06
frying_fish:)12:06
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Dr_Willismy old file server is like running... breezy or warty :P its so old.12:06
lemurDr_Willis: it's not THAT old :)12:06
frying_fishlol12:06
hyphenatederomero: the man pages for 'modprobe.conf' and 'depmod' will explain it better than people on IRC can12:06
abois there a way to print to a file ?12:06
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LjLkordokuvas: perhaps it would help if you stopped whining and just listened, and asked the *relevant* questions. anyway, 1) follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and enable the Universe repository, which contains a few Direct Connect clients   2) install one of them (possibly the one called "dcgui") using Synaptic, as clearly explained by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto12:07
technelJack_Sparrow, It works, thanks :)12:07
Dr_Willisabo,  configure your printer.. and print away12:07
lemurI remember when there was no such thing as ubuntu12:07
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Jack_SparrowNo Problem technel12:07
VoytekGHi everyone. I have a hard drive partition that I just reformatted to FAT32 file system (it was NTFS before) and now Ubuntu can't see any of the files on there, while Windows can. Can anyone help or give advice?12:07
charle97what is this ubuntu?12:07
SeveasLjL, too bad you wasted so much effort, he 'left' 12:07
eromerohyphenated: thanks12:07
eromerolet's see...12:07
aboDr_Willis, I need to print to a file ... a PS or PDF file12:07
Dr_WillisVoytekG,  check the fstab entry12:07
Cntryboylemur: sorry bro I found out why, it was a lock file that it was trying to skip12:07
LjLSeveas: i noticed, yep... but at any rated it'd still have been wasted even if he was still here >:12:08
Cntryboylemur: i didn't need it so Im all good I think12:08
technelOne question though: What are those things called that allow you to click on it and go to another folder? (Equivelant of a Windows shortcut) Like symbols or something?12:08
VoytekGDr_Willis- will do, thanks.12:08
Jack_SparrowVoytekG: How did you change the Partition format..12:08
ompaulLjL, sharp observation12:08
redguytechnel, symbolic links12:08
lemurCntryboy: yeah, the lock file is not readable, but that is just for the program's use..you won't need it12:08
technelredguy, Ah, thanks12:08
lemurCntryboy: :)12:08
redguytechnel, np :-)12:08
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charle97voytekg, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows12:08
VoytekGJack_Sparrow - I did it in Windows, using My Computer / manage Drives.12:08
Cntryboylemur: yah I didn't know that :) yay12:08
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codecaineI don't know what happen now when I login to ubuntu gui gnome my sound sounds bag and seems to dragout anybody know what could cause that?12:09
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lemurman, I wish linux weren't regarded as an alternative to windows :(12:09
Fatal`why :(12:09
kordokuvaswhy did u kick me?12:09
lemurto stop people from comparing them12:09
SeveasLjL, so true12:09
codecainelol12:09
xenoborglol12:09
Seveaskordokuvas, for being obnoxious in a support channel12:09
Fatal`wtf...what do you want to compare linux to?12:09
Fatal`hehe12:09
Seveaslet that be a warning, next time it's a ban12:10
VoytekGcharle 97 - i will check that out too. this isn't the Windows partition, though, it's a third partition meant to act as a place to store files. i will look at all these options, though and will be back. thank you!12:10
reemuski can't figure out how to install flash. where do i extract the files to in firefox?12:10
lemurFatal`: to unix ;)12:10
Fatal`lmao12:10
codecaineman wonder what happen to my login sound :P12:10
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Fatal`my only comparison, being a lifetime winodws user, is windows!12:10
redguy!flash12:10
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:10
Fatal`and i like ubuntu better :)12:10
kordokuvasobnoxious-I'm not exatcly english speaking as 1st lang12:10
Cntryboylemur: thanks again for help bro12:10
kordokuvaswhat does it mean12:10
Cntryboygoing to get off here and get this install done12:10
Cntryboy:)12:11
lemurI used to use DOS back in the day... had to be dragged kicking and screaming to windows when that got popular12:11
lemurCntryboy: have fun12:11
redguyreemusk, read the wiki links ubotu gave you12:11
Seveaskordokuvas, mostly annoying12:11
Cntryboytc12:11
xenoborgwhy don't you use the flash plugin in the multiverse repository12:11
Fatal`hehe, i won't ever use windows if i can just get ubuntu stable12:11
lemurmaybe kordokuvas could use a second chance..  let's not get too hard on his case lest he become bitter12:11
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Fatal`till then...dual boot12:11
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Zairehow do you view the history on Konqueror?12:12
kordokuvasannoying-another word i dont no,maybe when i go back to windows will see it in the dictionary12:12
lemurFatal`: sorry... we've all been there :)12:12
Fatal`hehe12:12
skavengewww.dict.org look it up12:12
LjLkordokuvas: you have a dictionary in Ubuntu12:12
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xenoborggoto dict.leo.org12:12
lemurZaire: a story of intrigue and revenge12:12
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Zaire?12:12
lemursorry, bad pun12:12
gnomefreakkordokuvas: please dont troll in here12:12
codecainehow do I make sure I have alsa for my main sound?12:12
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ZaireI seriously have no idea how to view the history on konqueror12:13
kordokuvaswell,i dont,and i wont ask,there's no point,and i need to see what does it mean in bulgarian12:13
LjLZaire: F912:13
lemurZaire: there should be a side pain that will expand on the left.  I don't know if you have it or not12:13
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ba5edoes anyone know if its possible to get a windows xp corp key that is multi language?12:13
Zaireah thanks got it now lol12:13
gnomefreakkordokuvas: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that topic12:13
ba5eshit sorry wrong room!12:13
LjLkordokuvas: , 12:14
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lemurba5e: you are forgiven12:14
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ZaireI had no idea cause I use firefox mainly but needed the history from the other12:14
ba5edidnt mean to ask that12:14
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Seveasbye bye cracker12:14
moparfan90hello. im and trying to get vmware to work and when i try to start it i get "vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configuredfor this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:/  usr/bin/vmware-config.pl."12:14
xenoborgassiduity12:14
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gnomefreakSeveas: ;)12:14
moparfan90and i configured it  times and nothing12:14
amortvigilhow cani switch files from /var/www/ to /media/htdocs?12:14
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kordokuvashow did u do it with the bulgarian?12:14
Seveasamortvigil, edit /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/default12:14
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skavengetheres about 100 translating webpages12:15
LjLkordokuvas: i typed "bulgarian dictionary" into google, and a site called http://sa.dir.bg/ showed up, and i used it. then i copied&pasted12:15
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Eazy- I have to deactivate and activate my network in kcontrol after every reboot to get online...anyone have a clue what might be wrong? I know I should probably be asking in #kubuntu, but noone seems to know there :P12:15
lemurwhere would we be without google12:15
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lemurEazy-: are you using dhcp?12:15
LjLlemur: at a far place called AltaVista12:15
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Eazy-yes12:15
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lemurLjL: I still remember that place!12:16
Zairedude wth was with the mass ban remove?12:16
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DonLhi12:16
VoytekGHey, to everyone to gave me advice. Thanks -- my partition is back. I edited the fstab file (it was the first thing I tried) and it works. Thanks again!12:16
Eazy-tried with static IP but it didnt work either12:16
LjLEazy-: do you have "resolvconf" installed?12:16
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Eazy-duno12:16
SeveasZaire, op on power trip 12:16
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LjLEazy-: type "apt-cache policy resolvconf | grep Installed"12:16
lemurEazy-: I had an issuse with my static IP configuration where ubuntu's graphical config would not properly store the nameserver info.  This may make it seem like you don't have a connection12:16
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HartNotdoes anyone use swiftfox here?12:16
Zaireah ic shouldn't have op in that case12:16
Fatal`alright...i think im going to migrate on over to ubuntu...what's ctrl-alt-f2 do again?12:16
Eazy-I see i dont have it installed12:17
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SeveasZaire, well, ompaul is the friendliest op we have actually ;)12:17
gnomefreaklol12:17
Zairelol12:17
LjLFatal`: switches your virtual terminal, like all ctrl+alt+fX keys12:17
ompaulZaire, if it was mass ban I might concur12:17
Eazy-so it should be enough to install resolvconf?12:17
LjLFatal`: F7 is generally your X terminal12:17
lemurEazy-: one would hope12:17
LjLEazy-: no12:17
LjLEazy-: i had a similar problem, and it turned out that resolvconf was *causing* that problem12:17
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Eazy-hehe12:18
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derekI just got Linux!!!!!!112:18
derekYEPPEEEEEEEEEE!12:18
Zairejust a little iffy since recent events I read about on digg that happened on freenode lol12:18
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Seveasderek, welcome to the dark side of the force12:18
Seveas</cheesy>12:18
derekmwhahaha12:18
lemurI had the same problem as LjL...I had to manually add my nameserver in the resolveconf config files12:18
derekYeah to bad windows is gone, so i have no choice12:18
lemurotherwise it would not stay12:18
ompaulZaire, ehh, that would be bans12:18
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ompaulZaire, I have another 20 or so before I go to bed12:18
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Eazy-ok, I got some hints now anyway :)12:19
Eazy-thanx!12:19
LjLlemur: i simply removed resolvconf, and then the KDE settings magically worked again12:19
derekYEah so some geeky kid gave me the disk12:19
zimI LOVE xlg it rocks12:19
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lemurI'm surprised this resolveconf problem exists in ubuntu LTS, and that it hasn't been patched12:19
lemurI guess I could try uninstalling it to, but I already configured it manually :)12:19
lemurall that work put to waste12:19
Eazy-I'll try to installe it first :)12:19
ompaulderek, #ubuntu is a support channel, join the chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic thanks :-)12:19
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LjLlemur: well, in the responses to my bug report, i have been assured that resolvconf was *not* installed automatically as a part of kubuntu12:19
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LjLlemur: on the other hand, i don't recall installing it, and i don't see what could have installed it. but anyway12:20
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cheeseman557im getting this error while installing ubuntu: a buffer i/o error on device sr0, logical block <some number>. anyone know what to do?12:20
derekDoes anyone know any burning software for Ubuntu?12:20
zimcan i set a diff background on each desktop12:20
Jack_Sparrow!backup12:20
ubotuI know nothing about backup12:20
Eazy-I have a fresh install of Kubuntu and its not installed12:20
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reemuskit says to install the package flashplugin-nonfree12:21
ompaulderek, gnomebaker or if you have an iso on your desktop just right click on it12:21
reemuski don't see that package in synaptic12:21
LjLderek: k3b, but it's for KDE12:21
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gnomefreakderek: there are alot gnomebaker, k3b, nautilus-burner12:21
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redguy!tell reemusk about universe12:21
yo_mero T  Preg. n 3/30 * Tema: simpsons (Autor: Homero)12:21
yo_mero T  Quin se enamor de Lisa?  ( 1 pal.)12:21
yo_mero IRcap Trivial  juego en pausa 12:21
derekThanks12:21
derek<3 IRC12:21
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gnomefreakLjL: still runs in gnome ;)12:21
Jack_SparrowLjL: K3b works fine in Ubuntu12:21
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lemurLjL: I have been using ubuntu...  I did have kubuntu-desktop installed but later removed it12:21
DonLI like K3b too12:22
lemurI should have paid better attention to how the installs went12:22
zimis there a way to have a diff background image on each desktop ???12:22
zimgnome12:22
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LjLgnomefreak, Jack_Sparrow: and? gnomebaker runs fine in kubuntu (i suppose), but i'm still not going to use it. perhaps someone else would, but i still do find it polite to warn people when a program i'm telling them about is for another environment than the one they're using.12:22
redguyreemusk, flashplugin-nonfree is in multiverse repository12:22
gnomefreakLjL: yes12:22
nbjaymehello everybody,  is there already a solution to the "Failed to Intialize HAL!", i have placed the smbfs mount in rc.local and i still have the errors... please help..12:22
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gnomefreakLjL: when you isntall them they install the libraries they need to run if you install k3b without kubuntu its still gonna install libqt3-mt12:23
derekI have to say this...Windows must burn12:23
lemurk3b is a part of KDE, but it is not necessarily "for" it in the sense that you can't use it all by itself in any other graphical environment.  It fits in with gnome just fine12:23
LjLgnomefreak: i know that12:23
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Jack_SparrowLjL: We always prefer an informed user. But saying that is a KDE app implies it will not run on Ubuntu12:23
zimderek have you installed xgl ???12:23
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LjLlemur: except you'll have to install the KDE libraries -- actually, they'll get installed automatically, but anyway12:23
goubuntu!offtopic12:23
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:23
DonLYes. I'm a big fan of Gnome, but K3b installed with just the necessary kde libraries and no more. Works like a charm12:24
derekThanks for the DVD burning software guys12:24
brian__hey, how do you find your machine's IP address in ubuntu?12:24
lemurLjL: yeah, that's true...  it'll take up some disk space and sit on more memory when you load it, but all in all it's not such a bad deal12:24
codecainewhen I play  movies and stuff the sound is off12:24
codecainehow can I fix that even when loading in windowsw12:24
codecaineI mean ubuntu12:24
codecainelol12:24
Jack_SparrowBlasphemy12:24
HartNotgasp12:24
derekBrain__ I usually use www.whatismyip.com12:24
zimcan anyone tell me how i can have a diff background image on each of my 4 desktops in gnome12:25
gnomefreakbrian__: ifconfig12:25
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lemurI use my handy dandy router with dyndns..  never haver to worry what my ip is anymore ^_^12:25
brian__ipconfig you mean?  in the terminal?12:25
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HartNotdoes anyone know how to install the mplayer plugin for swiftfox12:25
lemurHartNot: does swiftfox read /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins?12:26
Eazy-Installed resolveconf...now it works...lets see for how long :)12:26
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derekI'm new to Linux, I download things but it goes into a archive thingy, and i cant install it. why?12:26
zimbrian is a windoze boy ifconfig12:26
brian__ok12:27
useenamederek you probably want to use Synaptic to install things12:27
gnomefreakderek: because you choose it to open with that instead of downloading to a dir12:27
dreamcatcher5172does anyone have a good fps or rpg game running on ubuntu right now? I just need to pointed to the right direction in terms of the popular games that everyone likes12:27
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lemurHartNot: if it does, then I imagine that the mplayer-mozilla package in multiverse will work like a charm12:27
HartNotlemur, I'm not sure, how do I check that?12:27
brian__aha, got it, thanks zim12:27
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lemurHartNot: to be honest, I'm not sure how you check it..  but that's where firefox loads its plugins from12:27
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reemuskokay12:27
zimbrian are you using wireless12:27
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reemuski added the repositiories and reloaded12:28
reemuski still don't see flash-nonfree12:28
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lemurreemusk: I just let flash install firefox automatically for me12:28
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derekThe archive manager is the only thing I can choose....12:28
derekI cant pick anything else12:29
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reemuskleemur : i tried that but it said ti failed12:29
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lemurreemusk: how odd12:29
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lemurreemusk: what architecture are you running?12:29
reemuskleemur: very!12:29
redguyreemusk, ok, open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree12:29
redguy!terminal12:29
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands12:29
reemuskleemur: dapper drake12:29
reemusktrying that now12:29
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lemurfor x86?12:29
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reemuskyes x8612:30
jumperhi12:30
Zaireis there anyone on right now running an FX 5200 nvidia card that has twinview working?12:30
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lemurreemusk: oh, I see... hope the package works for you12:30
reemuskleemur: i got this error when i apt: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)12:30
reemuskE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?12:30
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lemurreemusk: it means that dpkg is running from another process.  Make sure you're not using anything else like aptitude, synaptic, etc12:31
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reemuskoh i have synaptic running12:31
reemuskelt me close that12:31
jumperI have 2 hd: a Sata and A Udma hd. should I install the so on the sata and use the Udma for my data or viceversa? pls help12:31
reemuskleemur: now i have a new error12:31
reemuskreemusk@ReeDesk:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree12:31
reemuskReading package lists... Done12:31
reemuskBuilding dependency tree... Done12:31
reemuskE: Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree12:31
gnomefreakreemusk: dont paste in here12:31
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reemuskgnomefreak: sorry12:31
gnomefreakreemusk: oh and enable multiverse12:31
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reemuskgnome: educate me :)12:32
gnomefreak!repos12:32
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource12:32
gnomefreakreemusk: ^^^12:32
reemuskoh!12:32
reemuskgnome: i've already acivated those and reloaded12:32
gnomefreakreemusk: than paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin so i can look at it12:32
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reemuskgnome: how do i display it12:33
vbgunzhow do I find out my public ip address through Ubuntu? ifconfig, does not tell me what the public address is :(12:33
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gnomefreak!pastebin12:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:33
gnomefreakreemusk: ^^ open that linka nd paste the file cont4ents there12:33
reemuskgnome: i knew that, how do i display the file contents, or do i just find the file?12:34
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gnomefreakreemusk: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list12:34
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reemuskgnome: at pastebin now12:35
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DonLHartNot, can12:35
Aviatrixiegood evening from cloudy southwest Pennsylvania USA  :)12:36
DonL't believe I havent heard of Swiftfox. I'll check it out12:36
lemurAviatrixie: good afternoon from hot and sunny southern California12:36
reemuskgnome: should it always take this long to load the page AFTER I paste the information? it's just sitting here with the java box12:36
Jack_Sparrowlemur: San Diego here12:36
amortvigilhwo do you remove useres in console12:36
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Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Sometimes it lags12:36
AviatrixieLOL @lemur... how's the air quality today?  ;)12:37
reemuskjack: preesh :)12:37
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ompaul!ontopic12:37
ubotu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!12:37
Jack_SparrowALways good where I live...12:37
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reemuskgnome: still waiting12:37
Aviatrixie<--- happens to like gnome... bunches12:38
cheeseman557anyone know what this error means: buffer I/O on device sr0, logical block 25527?12:38
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vbgunzanyone know if Ubuntu can give me my public ip address? ifconfig doesn't seem to give it to me12:39
Aviatrixiebut then it reminds me of my old but beloved powerbook12:39
Jack_Sparrowcheeseman557:  Accessing a usb removeable drive?12:39
cheeseman557no just my hard drive12:39
reemuskgnome: still waiting, is there any other way i can get this to you?12:39
gnomefreakreemusk: i told you to paste the contents on pastebin12:39
Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Paste it to #Jack_Sparrow while you wait12:40
reemuskgnome: i did. i'm waiting12:40
gnomefreakreemusk: can i have the address after you hit send12:40
reemuskjack: thanks, will do so. pastebin just asked me to download a php file12:40
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reemuskafter I hit send nothing happens12:40
reemuskit's stuck on loading12:40
dsahI can't get my ethernet to work at all12:41
Jack_Sparrowdsah: Your hardware type?12:41
dsahAsus A7N8X Deluxe12:41
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Jack_Sparrowgnomefreak: He only has the mains enabled12:42
dsahtwo onboard ports12:42
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gnomefreaki figured as much12:42
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gnomefreakJack_Sparrow: he said i already enabled all those :(12:42
dlidsah, two ethernet cards?12:42
gnomefreak!repos > reemusk12:42
dsahboth are onboard on the motherboard12:43
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Jack_SparrowI was just trying to expedite things..12:43
Aviatrixielottsa support happening at the moment... obviously not a good time for small talk. Have a good night all... and happy 4th to those in the usa  :)12:43
dsahG don't have ant non-onboard ones12:43
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dsah*I12:43
gnomefreakreemusk: please read that wiki and enable multiverse repo12:43
gnomefreakbrb12:43
dlidsah, that's very weird :( pastebin your lspci12:43
reemuskgnome: i have enabled multiverse repo12:43
nnydoes ubuntu support hfsplus (like say from a new mac)12:43
dsahIspci?12:43
dlidsah, I don't mean it's impossible, but most likely, only one onboard nic12:44
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dli!lspci > dsah12:44
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ubotuI know nothing about lspci12:44
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Jack_Sparrowdsah:  That has nvidia and 3Com lan cards12:44
dsahyeh, I know12:44
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dsahwould it matter that I am trying to connect through a hub?12:45
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reemuskjack: i have enabled multiverse as the wiki page states. i have reloaded synaptic. pastebin is not working. what do i do?12:45
dlidsah, sudo apt-get install pciutils12:45
diguanaAnyone know where I can find the setting that controls how long an SSH session can be inactive without disconnecting? I'm trying to access my home computer from work and it keeps kicking me out if I take my eyes off the window for a minute or two.12:45
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Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Your paste into channel says dufferent12:45
Jack_Sparrowdiff12:45
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reemuskjack: interesting. interesting..12:46
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reemuskjack: i do this in the software properties, correct?12:46
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patrickjDual lcds, finally :D12:46
Jack_Sparrowreemusk:  It just shows 4 mains12:46
dsahdliw that didn't do anything12:46
dsah*dli:12:46
Jack_Sparrowreemusk:  what?12:46
dliDIguana, that's controlled by sshd, the server side12:47
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reemuskjack: it says to activate the repositories i must use software properties in administration12:47
elementpatrickj, me too :) 20"s :P12:47
patrickjelement: mine are only 17"12:47
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element:grin:12:47
Jack_SparrowSynaptic settings repositories12:48
patrickjwhat kind are yours?12:48
elementaoc12:48
Jack_Sparrowclick on all of them12:48
reemuskthey are all clicked12:48
reemuskAdding the Universe and Multiverse Repositories12:48
reemusk    Navigate to "System" > "Administration" > "Software Properties".12:48
zimwhere do i map keys in gnome i want to map some custome keys on my logitec keyboard12:48
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Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Try it my way12:48
elementpatrickj, do you see a conflict between these two? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227124 -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?item=N82E1681313102212:48
patrickjelement: nice, DO you think I could check out your xorgconfig to see an example of the dual lcds?12:48
Jack_SparrowSynaptic settings repositories12:48
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elementpatrickj, I'm still on windows :P  this is my new box12:49
stelkiI'm going to try my luck again: Have anybody other than me experienced a menu entry in gnome that you just can seem to remove? I've been trying with alacarte, but everytime I try to disable the entry, it just comes back instantly - what can I possibly do to get around this?12:49
patrickjdamn, lol k12:49
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reemuski'm there12:49
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elementpatrickj, so do you?12:49
patrickjelement: no I dont see any conflict between those two, why uou ask?12:49
patrickj*you12:49
reemuskjack: they are all checked12:49
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elementpatrickj, ordering my new hardware ;)12:50
patrickjnice12:50
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patrickjelement: its really good ram12:50
elementdual 320gb drives, 2gb of ram, dual-core12:50
elementdual 20" monitors, and more :P12:50
Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Were they before?12:50
elementpatrickj, SATA-II too :)12:50
patrickjelement: oh, nice12:50
patrickjyou could go for a little bit better of a motherboard though12:50
elementcost me a pretty penny, but well worth it12:50
patrickjelement: and what cpu ?12:51
element4200+12:51
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elementX212:51
[Nige_Away] j #debian12:51
patrickjhmm nice12:51
patrickjlucky bugger12:51
stelkielement: damn, you won the lottery?12:51
patrickjIm just running dual xeons12:51
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elementstelki, no, my old computer is slowly dieing :P12:51
patrickjand dual 17" lcds :P12:51
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elementstelki, I have a 2ghz w/ 1gb of ram right now, about 5 years old12:51
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stelkielement: pfft, nothing wrong with that :D12:52
elementI'll be selling a lot of my hardware too, 17" Samsung LCD, speakers, and some more12:52
elementstelki, too slow for me :)12:52
patrickjlol k12:52
patrickjmines Dual 2.2GHz Xeons, 512mb Ram though12:52
elementstelki, I like top performance12:52
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stelkielement: hehe, I getcha, luckily I'm patient enough12:52
elementpatrickj, I didn't want to go xeon, AMD is far above Xeon right now -- you should upgrade your ram too12:52
elementstelki, more than welcome to buy my old hardware :)12:53
patrickjYeh I know, but im broke ATM12:53
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patrickjand 512mb ram is fine for linux12:53
patrickjI ONLY run linux12:53
elementI have an extra Samsung 172X now :)12:53
patrickjk lol12:53
Jack_Sparrowreemusk: Your silence implies that it now works for you... Glad to help12:53
patrickjalso, this mobo takes RDRAM, so basically its alot to get more ram :\12:53
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ompaulnotice  --  flood of unbans  coming up12:54
Jack_Sparrowweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee12:54
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patrickjwell im going to install Debian, im ditching ubuntu sadly lol12:55
patrickjbbl12:55
PFAin gtk/deborphan . . . how do i know which packages to remove? :S12:55
stelkioh for the love of god I dont get this, silly gnome12:55
patrickjelement: nice talking :P12:55
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patrickjLOL12:55
Jack_Sparrowstelki: Anything we might do to help?12:55
nekromaanhello, i compiled a new kernel 2.6.17.3 and get this error msg http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=443368 , i also cant use my second hard drive, what options do i have to en/disable in the kernel menu?12:55
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stelkiJack_Sparrow: yeah I already asked a while ago, dont wanna spam too much with my silly questions though12:56
stelkifigures noone answered noone knows12:56
Stormx2Ask away.12:56
Jack_SparrowI probably wont know but ask anyhow12:56
Stormx2Oh and btw, you should all buy the ubuntu cds. They come with free stickers!12:56
stelkiAlrighty then: Have anybody other than me experienced a menu entry in gnome that you just can seem to remove? I've been trying with alacarte, but everytime I try to disable the entry, it just comes back instantly - what can I possibly do to get around this?12:57
Gareth1ooh, stickers12:57
gnomefreakstelki: buy?12:57
Jack_SparrowWhat is it and where in the menu12:57
Stormx2stelki: Ooh odd, I've never had that.12:57
gnomefreakshipit comes with stickers now ;)12:57
n0k|ayou buy and get free stickers?12:57
Stormx2You don't have to pay any money12:57
Stormx2they send em to you for free12:57
Stormx2because our millionaire cosmonaut overlord commands them too.12:58
stelkiAnd to be precise, its a menu entry from transgaming cedega12:58
Gareth1and the stickers are $3.5 each on the store12:58
Stormx2Haha really?12:58
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Gareth1yep http://www.cafepress.com/ubuntushop/12:58
Stormx2Wow canonical must be making such a loss12:58
Jack_Sparrowstelki: You want it off the menu or off the system12:58
Gareth1are they the oval stickers Stormx2?12:58
Stormx2stelki: All I can suggest, make sure you only have one menu editor open, make sure the cedega process is fully terminated...12:58
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Stormx2Gareth1: They are rectangular except one side of curved, in a semi-circle sorta fashion12:59
Stormx2And I got 12!12:59
Stormx2Im gonna stick them on stuff12:59
Stormx2and people..12:59
Gareth1wow, not bad number12:59
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Gareth1I've been looking for stickers for my laptop12:59
stelkiJack_Sparrow: off the menu only12:59
gnomefreakGareth1: no they are rectangle12:59
Stormx2they're not your usual small stickers tho01:00
Gareth1ah gotcha01:00
Stormx2these are biggens'01:00
Gareth1yeah, the store says 5 inch x 3 inch01:00
stelkiStormx2: yea, tried all that stuff :/01:00
Stormx2stelki: Kill X and log back in?01:00
amortvigilhow to delete a map?01:00
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Stormx2amortvigil: a... map?01:00
amortvigilhow to delete a directory?01:00
amortvigilsorry:)01:00
Stormx2amortvigil: rmdir01:01
Jack_Sparrowstelki: Like storm said earlier, same advice I would give..01:01
PFAhow big should ubuntu be after install?01:01
Stormx2amortvigil: or, if its not empty, rm -rf01:01
stelkiStormx2: did a whole pc restart earlier (to change a few fans), but the problem persists01:01
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Stormx2stelki: I really don't know. Perhaps ask in #gnome ?01:01
Stormx2this is neat01:02
Gareth1PFA, for a standard ubuntu install, everything normally takes up about 2 gigs of space01:02
Stormx2theres only like 4 of us here01:02
PFAGareth1: thanks01:02
Stormx2its cool and a lot less hectic than normal01:02
Gareth1although if you are really concerned with disk space, go for xubuntu (doesn't come with all the stuff that ubuntu comes with)01:02
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stelkiStormx2: I will try, thanks01:02
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Jack_Sparrowstelki: When you uncheck the box for it it comes back?01:02
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stelkiJack_Sparrow: yep, first time I uncheck it it comes back, then when I uncheck again it doesnt, but the entry is still there01:03
stelkiJack_Sparrow: and its checked when I start alacarte again01:03
Stormx2stelki: So delete it?01:03
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Jack_Sparrowstelki:  I wonder if gksudo alacarte would give the permission to do it01:04
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stelkiStormx2: delete option blanked out01:04
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stelkiJack_Sparrow: oh will just try that, did a sudo alacarte earlier though01:04
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moparfan90im trying to install cedega and it says i need xlibs.. and there no package for it.. what should i do?01:04
stelkibleh, same result01:04
Stormx2stelki: Try #gnome01:05
stelkialright off I go then01:05
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Stormx2moparfan90: May be something like libx, use your imagination01:05
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Stormx2stelki: Sorry for not being able to help :(01:05
moparfan90i think theres  a .deb file online somewhere but i cant find it01:05
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moparfan90anyone know where01:05
Luke-bHi, I have installed CentOS on my computer, and now I want to install Ubuntu aswell. Can I use the same swap space partition for both OSs?01:06
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stelkiStormx2: ahh its ok, I've been fooling around with it for some time without being able to do it myself too, google didnt really show anything either01:06
Stormx2moparfan90: Maybe theres a howto/wiki on cedega?01:06
hyphenatedLuke-b: of course. only one of them is going to be running at any one time, so it's not going to matter01:06
moparfan90ill look01:06
Luke-bhyphenated: thanks01:07
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Jack_Sparrowstelki: Does sudo still show the remove button as grey01:07
Luke-bAlso, how do you recommend I re-partition my drive? I don't want to risk losing all my stuff01:07
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Stormx2moparfan90: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega01:07
hyphenatedLuke-b: carefully ;-)01:07
Jack_SparrowLuke-b: No repartitioning is risk free in Linux or Windows01:07
dliLuke-b, better backup01:07
Gareth1Luke-b, back up to another drive01:08
Luke-bI will backup :) but how should I go about doing it after that?01:08
Stormx2Luke-b: whatever happens, don't back up.01:08
Gareth1do you have a separate partition for /home?01:08
Stormx2Yeah I do.01:08
Gareth1yeah, good idea Stormx201:08
Luke-bno01:08
Stormx2gives the pr0n room to breathe.01:08
stelkiJack_Sparrow: yip01:08
Jack_SparrowHow do you force Ubuntu to use /home on a different partition? Does it need to be ext2,3 or reisf01:09
Stormx2I use ext301:09
Stormx2and you just mount it01:09
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Gareth1it's just in your fstab01:09
dliJack_Sparrow, /etc/fstab01:09
Stormx2You do it in the installer...01:09
Gareth1I'm using reiserfs for my /home, but I imagine any recognizable filesystem would do01:09
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Stormx2Anything yeah.01:10
Jack_SparrowI have been copying it to another partition, but having it use the other partition would be better01:10
Stormx2Best not use FAT though ;)01:10
Jack_Sparrowdli:  what would I put in my fstab?01:10
Gareth1say, is grub still limited to ext* partitions?01:10
Jack_SparrowDOnt think so01:10
dliJack_Sparrow, follow other entries there, make an entry for /home01:11
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Stormx2My setup is like this: 20gb HDD. 10gb "Stuff" (documents and such) 10gb Windows XP. 80gb HDD. 63.5gb "Music", 11gb /, 5gb /home, 1.5gb swap01:11
dliGareth1, no, you can use reiserfs, jfs, xfs, ufs2, ffs, even fat for grub01:12
Stormx2I'll need a new HDD for music soon >.<01:12
Gareth1ah, thanks dli01:12
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Gareth1hm, should I take the risk of redoing my /boot?01:12
Torfinn'sudo apt-get install lyx' # give error 2 because of said corrupted package. Q: Does 'sudo apt-get clean lyx' prepare for new download and install?01:12
Stormx2I guess ;-)01:13
Gareth1Stormx2, there are plenty of places selling some nice 250 gb hard drives for ~100 dollars01:13
Jack_Sparrowdli: thanks, I will mess with that tomorrow... Thanks to all here for the help...01:13
compengihow to number my pages in office writer?01:13
Stormx2Thats alright!01:13
Stormx2:)01:13
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Jack_SparrowI'm calling it a day.. for now01:13
Stormx2I can start ripping in FLAC again haha...01:13
Stormx2I'm gonna be off too.01:13
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compengihow to number my pages in open office word processor?01:15
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useenamehi compengi, you probably want to edit the footer/header01:19
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compengiuseename, yeah i want to add a page number at the end of the page01:20
goubuntu!dma01:20
ubotudma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing.  It makes hard disks run faster,  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DMA01:20
useenameactually, it's in Insert -> Fields01:20
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dockocan anyone help me? i'd like to make a mailserver for my local network - something that would collect all emails and computers on local network should read emails via IMAP... how to do it?01:21
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ppcguyhey all borked my xserv again..01:22
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ppcguyknow it's dkpg something to get it back to don't remember the exact command off the top of me head01:23
ppcguyany help?01:23
ppcguyah should mention I'm running dapper01:23
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spadesppcguy to reconfig xserver?01:24
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spadesdpkg-reconfigure xserver-org01:24
stefan_no01:24
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useenamedocko: you can read up on exim and postfix01:25
useenamei think those programs are mail software01:25
zimhi all what is the super button ???01:25
useenamezim: it turns on the HyperVapor in your CPU01:26
useename:)01:26
XVampireXzim: it's the winkey01:26
zimty01:27
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useenamewait, there's really a "super" key?  in what context?01:27
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Gareth1useename, it's the windows key01:30
gnomefreakuseename: the super key is the windows key01:30
gnomefreakor meta key01:30
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J_Phi all01:30
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PhoulHello. Im re-installing ubuntu and im wondering which iso i need. when i had breezy i only had one option and now theres 3. I use my computer as a desktop system . Would i get the desktop cd?01:31
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PhoulIm just not used to ubuntu ever having a livecd that your soposed to install off of hehe01:31
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useenameyou want the desktop cd if you're installing from scratch and not upgrading01:33
Expectlinux-pt01:33
Phoulokay well im installing over genpoo01:33
cyphaseNot that I usually read Foxnews, but.. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,201765,00.html01:33
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oneeyedelf1is there any way to increase ubuntu's startup01:37
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Hexidigital_oneeyedelf1:: you can try using hybernate, depending on your system01:37
livingdaylighthi, How does one detect hardware?01:37
boricuai see that ubuntu apache localhost  shows a directory of apache2-default while apache2-default shows the initial page saying the server was setup correctly, is this correct of did the set up miss something?01:37
livingdaylightHow can i check what the computer says my dvd writer is?01:37
jbaloulhi, anyone have MAXSOCKS problems with vncserver on amd64 ?01:38
Bot_BuilderHey, anyone know of a good source for info on ubuntu's fstab? I want to know about the options like errors=remount-ro,utf,umask=007,gid=4601:38
oneeyedelf1Hexidigital_: hibernate doesnt work on my system01:38
Hexidigital_boricua:: when you put an .html file in your /var/www,  the .html file will be the default01:38
Hexidigital_oneeyedelf1:: mine either :(01:38
J_Phey all, I am compiling kernel, I compile the kernel and install ok, but I try install second compiled kernel but the new kernel try create same name in /lib/modules/... But In kernel package I specific diferent argument in --revision : root@concord:/usr/src# make-kpkg --revision=test.1.0 kernel-image.01:38
J_PSo, I have this kernel do install via dpkg -i : kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_normal.kernel.conf.p4.6.7.3_i386.deb and kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_p4.6.7.3_i386.deb. But first kernel create dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ and when i try install second kernel ubuntu show error for me that dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ already exist. Why if my argumtn in --revision when compile is diferent ?01:38
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_nano_Hi, filesystem of / shows 0.6% non-contiguous blocks...what does this mean?01:39
_nano_*filesystem check01:40
Bot_Builder_nano_ - that means those sections are fragmented, no big deal really01:40
Bot_Builderjust when that number gets bigger you might want to defragment01:40
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_nano_Bot_Builder, is there anyway to defragment?01:40
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Bot_Builderyep01:40
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_nano_Bot_Builder, how?01:40
hyphenated_nano_: yes, but it's generally not necessary (it's done automagically for most filesystems)01:40
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_nano_hyphenated, ah ok...so i guess i don't have to worry about it01:41
Bot_Builderyeah, I wouldn't01:41
Bot_Builder.6% is tiny01:41
hyphenated_nano_: as Bot_Builder said, it's "no big deal"01:41
Bot_BuilderI think I'm at like 2%, and thats still tiny :P01:41
Hexidigital_boricua:: you there?01:41
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_nano_I have another question...ubuntu by default installed as ext3 ...there are others like reiserfs etc...which one's the best?01:41
bit_doidaoHello all! does anyone had succes in syncing palm zire 72 in ubuntu? This is my last issue for my perfect desktop01:42
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Hexidigital_boricua:: make a test page <html><body>test</body></html> and name it index.html, then reload the page01:42
oneeyedelf1so is there any way other than using hibernate to decrease my startup times01:42
hyphenated_nano_: even if it were horrendously fragmented, it's not going to matter, because performance doesn't degrade on ext3 the same way it does with fat32 (a windows filesystem). and the files that _do_ get used often will have automagically been defragmented as well.01:42
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Bot_Builder_nano_: Nothing is really best - some are good in some areas, some are better in others.  Ext3 is plenty good though01:42
cyberitehi, i'm running Amarok 1.4 (from the dapper repo's) - but when I run the first run wizard and add the directory that contains my music, nothing shows up in my collcetion. Has anybody seen this?01:42
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_nano_hyphenated, Bot_Builder, many many thanks  :)01:43
hyphenatedcyberite: I've only seen that for files that weren't tagged properly01:43
leftyhey will ubuntu run ok on my old powerbook g3?01:43
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FCTEAmarok is tricky, I just messed with it enough until it started evntually working right01:43
oneeyedelf1cyberite: did yuo wait for it to finish building your catalog01:43
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cyberiteyes, the window showed 100%01:43
Bot_Builder_nano_: no problem :)01:44
livingdaylightIs there any specific way dvd witers need to be configured that i should know about?01:44
cyberitehyphenated, yes, some of them might be improperly tagged01:44
spikebeh, the kde packages are kind of unstable for me01:44
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livingdaylightk3b says it can write, but i've tried to burn dvd .iso and yet it says it is blank01:44
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hyphenatedlivingdaylight: after going into the menu and choosing Tools -> Burn DVD ISO Image ?01:45
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hyphenatedlivingdaylight: have you previously gone to Settings -> K3b Setup ?01:47
livingdaylighthyphenated: yea, did that and burnt the iso ; but it shows up as empty  - i'm trying again now01:47
livingdaylighthyphenated: went to Settings -> configure k3b , and under device it confirms that it has picked up the new dvd writer i just bought01:48
boricuaHexidigital_:sorry i am here01:48
hyphenatedlivingdaylight: the other one (K3b setup) checks/changes permissions of a bunch of things if they are set incorrectly01:49
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livingdaylightwhat am i looking for?01:49
boricuaHexidigital_:thxs01:49
FCTEAnyone running xgl/compiz?01:49
SonicChaoMy video card isn't working, it's a Mobile Intel 915GM Express Chipset01:49
SonicChaoCan someone help?01:50
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leftyxubuntu or ubuntu on powerbookg3?01:50
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leftyany suggestions?01:50
SonicChaolefty: Ubuntu01:50
UsunnyFCTE thers a #xgl channel01:50
FCTEUbuntu is better IMHO01:50
FCTEsweet thanks01:51
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leftywill it be slow with 333mhz processor though01:51
SonicChaoCan somoene help me?01:51
Comrade_Shi sonic01:51
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Comrade_Swhat do you need01:51
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SonicChaoComrade_S!01:51
SonicChaoWhat a pleasant surprise!01:51
wweaselTo those of you who use a VNC client in Ubuntu, what client do you recommend?01:51
Comrade_Shi sonic01:51
SonicChaoComrade_S: My video card isn't working, it's a Mobile Intel 915GM Express Chipset01:51
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SonicChaoUbuntu 6.0601:52
Frederickcant I use lex and yacc on ubuntu?01:52
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Comrade_SSonicChao: I cant help you with that unfortunately.Not my expertise01:52
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erUSULFrederick: sure why not?01:54
FrederickerUSUL, couldnt find the packages01:54
FrederickI know there is byson and flex01:54
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livingdaylighthyphenated: in k3b setup ; how should things be?01:55
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livingdaylighthyphenated: ?01:56
hyphenatedlivingdaylight: it should load up stuff about 'Settings', 'Devices' and 'External Programs'01:56
livingdaylighthyphenated: yea..no, how should they be setup?01:57
livingdaylighthyphenated: its there; but  i dont know if it is right or wrong01:57
wweaselTo those of you who use a VNC client in Ubuntu, what client do you recommend?01:57
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livingdaylighthyphenated: k3b again burnt a blank dvd01:57
erUSULFrederick: then you will have to get the source and compile it... i'm afraid01:57
hyphenatedlivingdaylight: it's showing you 'how things should be'. is "Apply" clickable or disabled?01:57
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livingdaylighthyphenated: its disabled01:58
bimberiwweasel: i use the one shipped (xvncviewer) via Applications -> Internet -> Terminal Server Client01:58
livingdaylighthyphenated: un-clickable01:59
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hyphenatedso it does a complete burn with no errors, and it still appears blank to you when it's done?01:59
riddleboxI need to enable a script in /etc/init.d how would I do that?01:59
livingdaylighthyphenated: thats about it02:00
loderunnerwhat would/could 'tracer' refer to other than traceroute?02:00
wweaselbiberi: oh, cool, I didn't know it shipped with one.02:00
bimberiwweasel: :)02:00
hyphenatedlivingdaylight: I'd use google to find out if other people have complained about that drive in linux02:00
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livingdaylighthyphenated: ok, a project for tomorrow then02:00
bimbeririddlebox: use the update-rc.d command for that, you'll need to consult the man page for how to run it02:01
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Glassiusi'm trying to get frequency scaling to work properly on my pentium-m, but for some reasons there only seems to be two available steps, 600mhz and 1,5ghz...any idea on how to get the other steps working?02:01
Glassius"cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies" returns "1500000 600000", the same does cpufreq-info02:01
riddleboxthanks02:01
ConstyAnyone know why xmame's package is broken?  I have the binary nvidia drivers installed and working and I can't get xmame to work with GL.. saying libGL.so is not found.02:01
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byenhey guys i have a quick question: I did a sudo shutdown -h +60 and now i have to undo it. how can i do that via the terminal02:02
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Comrade_Sbyen: sudi shurtdown -c02:04
Comrade_Sbyen: sudoshurtdown -c02:04
Comrade_Sahh02:04
byenthanks Comrade_S  :P02:04
Comrade_Sbyen: sudo shutdown -c02:04
byenyou saved my butt :P02:04
Comrade_Snp02:04
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byenlol.. shurtdown? :D02:04
Comrade_Slol02:04
spikebyay shurtdown02:04
Glassiusman shutdown is your friend :P02:04
jason_I'm getting "not authenticated" messages in synaptic02:04
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byenthat would stop any sudo shutdown -h process Comrade_S ?02:05
Comrade_Syes02:05
byenkool. thanks mate02:05
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J_Phey all, I am compiling kernel, I compile the kernel and install ok, but I try install second compiled kernel but the new kernel try create same name in /lib/modules/... But In kernel package I specific diferent argument in --revision : root@concord:/usr/src# make-kpkg --revision=test.1.0 kernel-image.02:06
J_PSo, I have this kernel do install via dpkg -i : kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_normal.kernel.conf.p4.6.7.3_i386.deb and kernel-image-2.6.15.7-ubuntu1_p4.6.7.3_i386.deb. But first kernel create dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ and when i try install second kernel ubuntu show error for me that dir /lib/modules/2.6.15.7-ubuntu1/ already exist. Why if my argumtn in --revision when compile is diferent ?02:06
m_tadeuhi everyone....if iptables -L is empty, means that the firewall is not filtering anything, right?02:06
jason_is there a gpg key for backports?02:06
wweaselI have a question, and it seems really stupid considering I've been using Ubuntu for a few months now. What about defragging?02:07
zerby_no defragging for linux02:07
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Frederickwweasel, this is a windows issue02:08
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Frederickfschk02:08
wweaselSo Linux disks don't become fragmented?02:08
zerby_right02:08
jason_wweasel, ext2/ext3 are designed not to be02:09
wweaselCool. That's good to know.02:09
jason_but there are tools to do it if you really want to02:09
J_Panyone can help me with kernel-package ?02:09
zerby_next question: virusses ?02:09
m_tadeulolol don't forget about adwares02:10
zerby_yes yes adwares02:10
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Glassiuswhat about registry clean-up?02:10
zerby_what about windows02:11
Gareth1don't forget to make sure you have a genuine copy, to "protect" you from piracy02:11
zerby_oh yeeeesssss02:11
zerby_licensies02:11
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m_tadeunever, but never use a key generator02:11
Bot_Builderhmm, mounting a partition into a folder in my home dir isn't working so well02:11
Glassiuscan i run WGA in wine? :P02:12
Gareth1haha Glassius02:12
Bot_BuilderI get 'Error "Not on the same filesystem" while deleting'02:12
Glassiusi'm wondering if i have a pirated version of kubuntu02:12
Bot_Builderwhen i try to delete something in it02:12
zerby_lol02:13
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Bot_BuilderGlassius - lol, is there such a thing02:13
zerby_wow illegal copie of ubuntu!!??02:13
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Glassiusactually, that would be a fun project, getting wga running in wine...wonder what it would think :P02:13
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rackerzhello?02:14
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wweaselGlassius: I think I've read about people doing crazy stuff like that.02:14
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rackerzcan someone help me get my webcam working when i start up ubuntu?02:14
docta_vdoes anyone here know a fair amount about spf (sender policy framework)02:15
docta_vwould appreciate a msg if you can help me interpret some spf records02:15
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socket7hello02:16
zerby_lo02:16
socket7Can anyone help me get udev to see the CD-rom drive in my laptop as a hot swap device02:16
Dr_Willishowdy02:17
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socket7Has anyone here ever configured udev by hand?02:20
farkyCan someone help me with setting up my sata drive?02:21
J_PAre there one doc to compile kernel one ubuntu using kernel-package ?02:21
Bot_Builderhmm, can i make a symbolic link to a folder?02:21
hyphenatedBot_Builder: sure02:22
Bot_Buildercoolio02:22
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bimberiJ_P: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild02:23
Bot_Buildernone of the docs i looked at specifically said you could do folders02:23
Dr_Willisfarky,  give a few more details as to what you are wanting to do02:23
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socket7725 people and nobody has any idea of how to configure udev by hand?02:23
farkyDr_Willies: mainly, I cannot get the text installer to start the partitioner because it is not detecting my drive02:24
Dr_Willissocket7,  whats to config. :P its got its files in /etc/udev/  go forit!@02:24
Dr_Willis:P02:24
Dr_Willisfarky,  hmm..  could try the live cd and see if it sees the drive02:24
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socket7Dr_Willis. So you have no idea then.02:25
F0LL0W3Rhow to configure out the modem properties for HSP56 mr via to get the connection workin ?02:25
farkyDr_Willis: well I have another problem there, the Live CD does not detect my mouse. I have tried three different mice: PS/2 and USB02:25
Dr_Willissocket7,  i would guess the udev homepage would be where to start. :) as you hopefully await a response here.02:25
Dr_Willisfarky,  now thats odd.  this a desktop machine? or laptop?02:26
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farkyDr_Willis: desktop02:26
hussamwill edgy eft contain xorg 7.1?02:26
spikebhussam: yes02:26
hussamor is too late for that?02:26
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hussamspikeb: ah ok good02:27
Dr_Willisfarky,  hmm.. could try some other live cd.. but the hw detection in the ubuntu live seemed quite good last i tried it.02:27
Samus_Arancan anyone suggest why I might be getting "fork resource unavailable" when I have 1.25 GiB RAM, only 170 processes and ulimit shows "unlimited" ?  top shows half a gig of cache used and 50 MiB RAM free02:27
farkyDr_Willis: I have tried the slax series of live cd's also, but same problem02:27
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Dr_Willisfarky,  that almost sounds like some odd motherboard/bios issue then.02:28
F0LL0W3Rany1 would help me abt the modem properties to configure out the problem to bel solved ^_^02:28
Dr_Willisfarky,  may want to google for your exact machine and see if any othe rlinux users have had issues like that.02:28
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farkyDr_Willis: ok I will try that, thanks02:28
witlesshi. when playing a dvd in ubuntu, does it bypass regional encoding?02:29
socket7Dr_Willis, I'm sorry you've proven my theory once again.02:29
Dr_Willissocket7,  sure whatever...02:29
GrubChubis there a default username/password for phpmyadmin when you install it through apt?02:29
socket7Linux users are assholes :D02:29
Dr_Willisfarky,  you could see what exact x config is being generated. and see if the dev is matching up.02:29
Dr_Willissocket7,  yea sure... whatever.02:30
Dr_Willis:)02:30
GrubChubbah some of the guys I work with are :p02:30
Dr_Willisya missed the fun earlier today.02:30
GrubChubI hate it when they are zealots about the OS02:30
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GrubChub:) I think it's an awesome os02:30
Frederickcan I get flash 8 for linux?02:30
GrubChubbut some subscribe to it like a religon :-|02:30
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rskFrederick no02:31
Frederickgreat =/02:31
farkyDr_Willis: maybe upgrade my bios? I just read that some guy had the same problem with the hard disk and he just upgraded the bios and it worked fine02:31
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Dr_WillisGrubChub,  heh - its a tool. and all tools have limitations and take efforts to learn.02:31
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GrubChubThat's not the point i'm arguing at all02:31
GrubChubI understand that completely02:31
Dr_Willisfarky,  i had linux issues in the past that there fixed by bios updates.  so if there is a bios update - id be sure to try it02:31
GrubChubyou guys are extremely helpful here02:31
Dr_WillisGrubChub,  :P02:31
farkyDr_Willis: ok thanks02:32
GrubChubthere are some linux users are like... look me not in the eye foul swine! you have the stench of microsoft on you!02:32
Dr_WillisMy laptop was usless under linu untill i updated its bios02:32
Dr_WillisGrubChub,  thats #debian :P02:32
GrubChubhehehe02:32
ssuehrhey now02:32
Dr_WillisHeh heh that woke them up!02:32
Dr_Willishmm.. i just noticed that under kde i got a battery gague and cpu speed  applet.. wonder where a similer thing is for gnome.02:33
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Comrade_SDr_Willis: gDesklets02:36
Dr_Willissocket7,  i just noticed several hotswap packages for ide devices under synaptic :)02:36
Dr_WillisComrade_S, yea - i lperfer the panel applets myself.02:37
socket7I already used apt to install hotswap.02:37
Comrade_SDr_Willis: ok,np02:37
skavengetrying to install on an old desktop machine now, after, 'mounting root filesystem' i get hdb: timeout waiting for dma , then hdb: not ready for command or something like that, then it just does i/o errors on the drive over and over till i reboot .. anyone seen this? im not coming up with much on google ..02:37
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ssuehrhave you tried booting with  'ide=nodma'?02:38
dtsueijust a quick quesiton, wut's the keyboard shortcut to switch to 2nd, 3rd, and 4th desktop in ghome?02:38
dtsueignome*02:38
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J_Pbimberi: thanks! :-)02:39
skavengessuehr: ill give that a try, didnt see it on the boot options on the disc just tried acpi=off02:39
ssuehrskavenge, when i've had similar problems it's been indicative of a hard drive going bad.02:40
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skavengessuehr: hdb's the cdrom so maybe thats dying02:40
spadesyou have your cdrom on the same channel as harddrive/02:41
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skavengehda's the harddrive .. yes i might spades dunno for sure02:41
bimberiJ_P: yw :)02:41
socket7Dr_Willis, All those hotswap utilities in synaptic do not work. I've tried them already. I've read their manuals too.02:41
kordohi02:41
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ssuehrskavenge:  does this help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-9914.html02:41
kordoi dont think so02:42
skavengessuehr: taking a look now02:42
kordoany1 knows how to install anything?02:42
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spadesskavenge if im not mistaken, it will only go as fast as the slowest thing which is your cdrom, maybe put that on secondary and it will be hdc and it wont slow down your harddrive02:43
skavengehmm ill have to pull the side off it and see02:43
kordoLinux only make me angry02:43
skavengeits kind of a pain cause there is no internet on it right now so i cant paste errors etc02:49
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kordobut i hate when someone tell me to go to windows02:49
GrubChubgo to windows!02:49
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kordojust need a help02:49
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install mc     (will install the program mc)02:49
GrubChubfine02:49
Dr_Willisas an example02:49
GrubChubgo to beos :p02:49
kordohere again02:49
GrubChub;) :p sorry02:49
kordoanother 102:49
GrubChubjust fooling around02:49
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spadesskavenge im not referring to errors, just general usage to keep them on different channels02:49
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop               will install the whole xubuntu-desktop set of packagtes as another example.02:49
skavengekinda funny no hiccups on my laptop with the dapper livecd but the desktop cries heh02:49
Ghost_Printerkordo stop trying to use Linux like Windows and you will have an easier time02:49
kordonot that understand anything02:49
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kordowell,i only try to get some help02:49
kordobut everyone says only if u dont understand go to windows02:49
spikebthat's not good :(02:49
Ghost_Printerhelp with what Kordo ?02:49
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kordowith Linux02:49
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kordowith installing programs02:49
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Ghost_Printerwhich program?02:49
kordoi downloaded valknut02:49
kordobut i don't know how to install02:49
MeshyfCan someone give me a little advice, on how well Ubuntu would run on a Dell 3800?02:49
Ghost_Printerbrb02:49
Usunnykordo so your stuck with a .rpm ?02:49
skavengeooh i think the ide=nodma got it through the error .. obviously have to fix that later if i can02:49
socket7Meshyf, It will run perfectly assuming you have enough spare time in your life to devote to beating it into submission.02:49
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flyinprogramersundude9002:49
kordoyes,rpm02:49
James_hi02:49
Usunnywell, then02:49
ssuehryou can skavenge, to make it permanent.02:49
flyinprogramersundude90 needs help with modem drivers02:49
Usunny!rpm02:49
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).02:49
MeshyfSocket7: Really that bad?02:49
Dr_Willis!info valknut02:49
ubotuvalknut: graphical client for Direct Connect. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7-2ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 863 kB, installed size 3044 kB02:49
vbgunzkordo: sudo apt-get valknut first!02:49
skavengessuehr: well hopefully i can fix whatever it is, not having dma for my drives would make it slow02:49
Dr_Willisvbgunz,  he needs to set up the right repos first02:49
socket7Meshyf Thats linux in general. If you have weird hardware, it gets even wrose.02:49
socket7worse.02:49
Dr_Willisdone he? or is uni the default.. i forget.02:49
kordosudo apt-get valknut?02:49
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Usunnyyes, in console02:49
Dr_Willissudo apt-get install PackageName02:49
sundude90I want to conect my computer to the internet using dialup.  I have ubuntu02:49
vbgunzkordo: thats all you need if you have the right repos in your sources.list02:49
kordowhat is this,and what is console?02:49
Dr_Willisya frogot the install  part.02:49
UsunnyO_o02:49
Meshyfsocket7: I've installed ubuntu on some funky stuff and it ran fine but never tried a laptop so I was just curious/02:49
Usunnyyou shold read a manual ^^02:49
James_im having a really annoying problem, where my recent install wont boot, in 'normal' mode, it stops on the step "uncompressing linux...booting the kernel", and in recovery mode, it stops on "acpi: looking for dsdt...not found". All i did to break it was change my xorg.conf file02:49
arapehlI can't get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to mount... I can see them, but I can't get them working. Any ideas?02:49
Dr_Willis!cli02:49
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands02:49
flyinprogramersundude90 i would suggest telling what kind of modem you have, a.k.a copy paste the lspci line of your modem card02:50
James_doesnt boot with the dapper or hoary live cds either02:50
sundude90flyinprogramer   help me allen02:50
Ackeubu_you guys i am looking for the export_divx4.so object, in what package can i find it?02:50
Dr_Willisconsole/terminal/command line interface = where you type in commands02:50
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socket7Meshyf, laptops usually fail to suspend and or hibernate, show incorrect screen resolutions, or hot swap bays wont work correctly.02:50
someoneuseless@James: use a live linux from cd and repair your file02:50
socket7in the case of my laptop, all 3 are true02:51
arapehlI can't get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to mount... I can see them, but I can't get them working. Any ideas?02:51
MeshyfSocket7: Ah aight, thanks.02:51
sundude90fly  can I copy and paste here or npt02:51
kordoapplications-accesoires does not have a terminal02:51
James_i tried to, changed it back to the old one and it still doesnt work. Also tried booting from the hoary live cd/dapper install cd and neither will boot. Knoppix and DSL seem to work though02:51
flyinprogramerdoes anyone know if you can use the x.org config file that ubuntu uses with gentoo?? because unbuntu supports my 1280x8000 res, and gentoo won't.....easily, and i was wondering if one could just copy the xorgconf file to my gentoo system to get it to work02:51
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kordosystem does not have a console02:52
sundude90flyinprogramer how do I copy and paste02:52
flyinprogramersundude90 you have the screen, just type it word for word02:52
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Amaranthkordo: what is the problem?02:53
whitehorseNtigerI see some cluster stuff in synaptic.  Does anyone have a ubuntu cluster up and runner?   What should I install?02:53
Amaranth!cluster02:53
ubotuI know nothing about cluster02:53
Amaranthhrm02:53
Dr_Willisi really think they need to put a terminal icon on the panel by default :P02:53
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kordothe problem is how to install dc++ client02:54
kordoor codecks for playing avi files02:54
arapehl725 ppl in the channel and nobody knows how to get my CD-ROM and CD-RW drives to work? :-) C'mon guys, I've gotten so much help here in the past! :-)02:54
kordoor anything like it in Linux02:54
Amaranth!avi02:54
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:54
whitehorseNtigerwhat is "!cluster"?02:54
AmaranthwhitehorseNtiger: nothing02:54
whitehorseNtigerok02:54
someoneuseless!cluster02:55
ubotuI know nothing about cluster02:55
Dr_Willisarapehl,  you see them but cant access them once they are mounted you are saying?02:55
sundude90ok alllen02:55
flyinprogramermy name keeps getting longer02:55
arapehlDr_Willis: It's weird, they show up in my Computer File Browser but when I try to read a disk it gives me errors... the latest (from the CD-ROM) is wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb,02:56
arapehl       missing codepage or other error02:56
arapehl       in some cases useful info is found in syslog - try02:56
arapehl       dmesg | tail  or so02:56
sundude90 I have a Conexant HSF 56k Data/ Fax modem02:56
Dr_Willisarapehl,  thats a genric mount failed error.02:56
Dr_Willissounds like.02:56
skavengei have to do ide=nodma to boot the livecd, should I do anything to setup for this before I 'install' so it will boot once its booting from the harddisk?02:56
AmaranthwhitehorseNtiger: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuOnCluster02:56
snoopskordo there's a few dc clinets to choose from02:56
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snoopskordo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_connect_file-sharing_application#Linux.2FUnix02:57
arapehlDr_Willis: the funny thing is, I'm using the Ubuntu boot CD I used to install the system in the first place :)02:57
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sundude90I need to know how to add that driver to a ubuntu computer02:57
Amaranthsundude90: you have to pay some jerks to get a driver for that02:57
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sundude90Amaranth   i do02:57
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someoneuselesshow do you leave a manual opened with eg. $man gcc02:58
Amaranthsundude90: http://linmodems.org/02:58
sundude90Is there a download site for it or something02:58
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Amaranthsundude90: You have to buy it.02:59
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kordohttp://nightlies.videolan.org/build/breezy-i386/vlc/0.8.5-svn20060208/02:59
James_Anyone got any idea why my computer will fail to boot from the dapper install cd, stopping on the "Uncompressing Linux...booting the kernel" message?02:59
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kordodo i have to download it all?02:59
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kordoany1 who knows something about it?03:00
James_yet it booted fine about an hour ago when i installed dapper?03:00
useenameJames_ : how long did you wait?03:00
James_err03:00
James_a while03:00
snoopskordo no of course not.. just giving you an IDEA of what dc clients are around for linux03:00
James_stops at the same point when booting from the hard drive03:00
sundude90Amaranth  I have the driver in the computer but I need software to run it on linux03:00
kordono,the link03:00
kordohttp://nightlies.videolan.org/build/breezy-i386/vlc/0.8.5-svn20060208/03:00
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kordowhat to do here?03:01
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Amaranthsundude90: You have the hardware in the computer, you have to buy the driver (software) to run it with linux.03:01
snoopsdo you just want vlc kordo?03:01
kordoyes03:01
kordoto play files video files03:01
sundude90ok03:01
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snoopskordo either open synaptic package manager then search for vlc and choose to download it from that or type 'sudo apt-get install vlc' in terminal03:02
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snoopsbut you really should install multimedia codecs for linux as well, eh kordo..03:03
kordoOk,why is so difficult for elementary playing of files to do this,and i still don't understand how to do it03:03
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kordothere is no terminal03:03
kordowell,i did03:03
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kordoand nothing03:03
kordostill cannot play avi03:03
sundude90flyinprogramer Ineed to buy it not fair  now I am mad.  Bye see ya soon.   Have a great trip.  Thanks ofr all your help.   Friends forever.  Saty safe and good luck with ya family03:03
arapehlUhm, what's a "sym link" and how do I make sure it's not broken on my machine?03:03
Dr_Willisapplications --> accessories --> terminal is where i see  the terminal icon.03:03
snoops!restricted > kordo03:03
vem0mhehe03:03
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vem0mgoto run command and type konsole03:04
James_useename: I tried it again, waited for 3 minutes. Still doesnt boot03:04
snoopsread the links ubotu sent you kordo03:04
vem0mshould bring up terminal03:04
kordoI did03:04
kordoand it says to install vlc03:04
kordoand i dont know how03:04
vem0mgoto adept and search for that or use apt-get03:04
James_!dpdt03:05
ubotuI know nothing about dpdt03:05
snoopskordo there's a lot more than just 'install vlc' in those guides, if you read them03:05
GrubChubcan someone tell me how I get to IRC?03:05
zcat[1] gah! sco openserver 5. What fun!03:05
vem0mlol03:05
vem0mu are in IRC03:05
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Dr_Willisor the 'applications' --> 'add/remove'  icon can let ya isntall vnc if you check the  'unsupported' check box.03:05
vem0myep03:05
GrubChubhuh?03:05
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Dr_Willisoops i ment vlc03:05
neighborleedoes ubuntu plan on fully supporting LSB and if so when ? ;-))03:05
kordowhatever,it's obviosly is no way to install simple program in Linux03:05
arapehlDr_Willis: the funny thing is, I'm using the Ubuntu boot CD I used to install the system in the first place :)03:05
sundude90flyinprogramer    helo allen03:05
vem0mGrubChub: this is IRC03:05
vem0mlmfao03:05
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arapehlDr_Willis: I did a search and came up with "sym link"... could it be that they icons for the drives are reversed?03:06
GrubChubokay how do I connect to #ubuntu?03:06
kordoJust for the record-there is no VLC in synaptix03:06
Usunnyyou! Ogg vs mp3, hit me!03:06
James_grubchub: That's where you are now ;-)03:06
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zcat[1] kordo: universe or multiverse?03:06
vem0mtype /join #ubuntu03:06
Dr_Williskordo,  takes me all of 10 sec to get the stuff installed.. add/remove programs. check that check box.. find vlc..  check it.03:06
GrubChubhehe03:06
kordo'what is this?03:06
arapehlDr_Willis: When I try and use the CD-ROM, the whole system just hangs until I hit a button (eject) on the drive... very, veri weird.03:06
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zcat[1] !repos03:06
ubotuThe packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource03:06
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GrubChubooooohh okay... soo how do I chat?03:07
Dr_Willisarapehl,  i agree there03:07
JackDeth_Wow! there's a lot of people here. Maybe I could get what I hope will be a simple question answered....  ;-P03:07
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zcat[1] kordo: go read what ubotu said03:07
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arapehlDr_Willis: So how do I go about diagnosing and fixing they sym links? I've never done anything like that.03:07
vem0mummmm u type thing into the box at the bottom of ur IRC program and hit enter on your keyboard03:07
whitehorseNtigerHas anyone got openMOSIX working on ubuntu?03:07
Dr_Willisarapehl,  ick. not sure where to start03:07
GrubChuboooooh03:07
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arapehlDr_Willis: Awesome! ;) j/k03:07
kordoit's only totem in add/remove03:08
zcat[1] the best way to fix ubuntu is to not break it in the first place :)03:08
GrubChubO03:08
GrubChubI've got to go to the bafroom03:08
Dr_Williskordo,  check the unsupported check box - and the comercial check box perhaps and see if it shows up then03:08
vem0mlol i had to fix kicker earlier as i messed that up somehow lol03:08
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cyberslugIs anyone here willing to assist me in setting up something to graph latency in ping.... I am having considerable difficulties with RRDTool... Are there any other options?03:08
James_hmm, my live cd still gets stuck on the "Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel." stage, as does my hard drive install and a hoary live cd03:08
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kordo?where are these boxes?03:09
JackDeth_I am completely new to Linux, but have been tasked with putting together a computer for our church's gradeschool which will act as a Librarian's desk PC for their small library. I found a full featured open source library management package which sounds perfect for what we want, but it runs on Linux only.03:09
vem0myour cd sound to be corrupted03:09
Dr_Willisright in the middle of that dialog box where it shows "show unsupported applications'03:09
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zcat[1] JackDeth_: koha ?03:09
JackDeth_The version it recommends include Debian and Fedora.03:10
vem0mJackDeth_: install linux03:10
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JackDeth_Yes!! Koha! How did you know?03:10
_nano_!quicktime03:10
ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats03:10
James_vem0m: me? But my hard drive installed copy fails at the same point. Could just be a coincidence i suppose03:10
zcat[1] just go ahead and install ubuntu.. it's the easiest distro03:10
Usunnyyou mind telling kordo that ? :>03:10
kordoi red it03:10
vem0mjames it might be due to u installing from a corrupted cd or an attempt by one03:11
chespiritois there any software available for ubuntu that is similar to adobe after effects or discreet combustion?03:11
kordoand i wanted to install vls03:11
kordobut u only say read03:11
JackDeth_Well, someone told me that Ubuntu has it's roots in Debian or some such thing and I was wondering if Koha would work with it....03:11
vem0mits debian based03:11
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kordowhat to read,this help is for advansed users03:11
vem0mwhich is linux03:11
vem0m:)03:12
James_ven0m: My hard drive install did work for a while, but I edited my xorg.conf file, in a futile attempt to install XGL, and i gues i may have broken something03:12
snoopsJackDeth_ yep that's correct.. like debian, ubuntu has apt, which makes things very easy :)03:12
kordothere is no help that helps new users03:12
James_ven0m: but i cant see how that would break my live cd03:12
zcat[1] hmm.. not sure there's a koha package for ubuntu.. it's not in th repos!03:12
vem0mhmmmmm i dunno03:12
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vem0mtry redownloading it and trying if that don't work it might be a hardware failure03:13
Usunnylinux isnt like win, you need to read a few pages to get the feel for it03:13
James_ven0m: suppose i can give a new cd a try03:13
zcat[1] afk.. brb03:13
bogahow do I start the sound system?03:13
James_ven0m: i'll just md5 the copy i downloaded before03:13
JackDeth_Also, I see there are two version of Ubuntu, server and workstation. Well, we only have one computer and I planned on running the koha server on it as well as allowing the librarians to access the graphical client from the same computer to check kids in and out. It sounds like the server version of Ubuntu installs many of the prerequisites for koha, but I still want all the user friendly GUI stuff too. Which version do I use?03:13
vem0mkk :)03:13
snoopskordo there is, but requires patience and getting to understand different ways of doing things.. takes a bit of time, and in my opinion is well worth it in the long run03:13
kordowell this pages are not well written03:13
Usunny!windows03:13
ubotuFor help with Microsoft windows, please visit ##windows or your nearest mental health institute. Also see http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 - !equivalents - http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm03:13
Usunnylol03:13
vem0mworkstation is more for a desktop based setting03:13
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cyberslugJackDeth_, In my experience, linux programs are fairly usable althroughout the distributions. The only thing that really differs is an occasional directory structure deviation. I would hate for this to be the one case out, but meh. Also - Ubuntu is very much based on Debian - so you should be fine03:14
vem0mand debian is linux03:14
vem0mhehe03:14
snoopsJackDeth_ if koha is in the ubuntu repositories (I'm pretty sure it is), then you can just do from terminal "sudo apt-get install koha" or find koha in synaptic (provided you've got universal and multiverse repositories added).03:14
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kordoI'm starting to hate really serious Linux03:15
cyberslugJackDeth_, Both can be updated to include exactly the same pacakges (workstation and server), and so all that differs is what is on the install cd :)03:15
cyberslugkordo: Why?03:15
kordowell,any1 read Slackware help for fdisk03:15
vem0myea that and resouce management and usage of either03:15
vem0mi use kbuntu03:15
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vem0mkubuntu*03:15
kordodoesn't even help for nothing03:15
n0k|afdisk is usefull\03:16
kordoi didnt istall Slackware bacause of fdisk03:16
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kordoonly errors03:16
kordoand can't split hard drive03:16
kordoand make swap03:16
BlueEaglekordo: sure it can.03:16
sundude90bye see yall03:16
vem0mubuntu is best and fastest easiest to learn distro i have found i have tried 403:17
cyberslugBye!03:17
BlueEaglevem0m: good for you! :)03:17
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n0k|akordo, try FreeBSD03:17
kordowell,it's not a help for fdisk available03:17
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vem0mlol blueeagle03:17
BlueEaglekordo: just type ? or h at the prompt03:17
kordoyeah,why,to hate another OS03:17
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JackDeth_Does anyone have a good resource for learning the basics of navigating Linux using command line and how the whole directory structure works in relation to, say, Windows? Any good material with frames of reference between the two?03:18
kordojust it is so easy for you sinse you are advansed users03:18
n0k|ayeah03:18
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sundude90cyberslug THANKS FOR THE BYE!03:18
vem0mwell i dunno but i usally find heap on goole03:18
n0k|aand how do you think I got that way03:18
n0k|acomplaining?03:18
bthorntonDoes 'hdparm' usable with SATA drives, or just IDE?03:18
vem0mgoogle*03:18
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bthornton*Is , not "does"03:18
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BlueEaglejackdeth_: Are you at all familiar with the windows command prompt?03:18
n0k|aJackDeth_, any specific questions?03:18
cyberslugsundude90, np :P03:18
kordodidnt even 1 of you had the same problems with Linux?03:18
useenameJackDeth_: the *nix file system is a single tree, starting at /03:18
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zcat[1] http://www.koha.rwjr.com/ -- koha for Windows :)03:19
n0k|akordo, no problemsat all03:19
sundude90NP?03:19
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useenameJackDeth_: you can learn about the commands pwd, ls, dir, cd, pushd, popd, cp, mv03:19
kordoI doubt it03:19
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n0k|ait's true03:19
zcat[1] .. and it's not in the ubuntu repos. I checked :( Probably not to hard to install under ubuntu though.03:19
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kordono way nobody has a problems03:19
useenameJackDeth_: just type "man <command>" in your terminal03:19
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Usunnykordo I don't get it. thers a perfectly fine manual, pdf, html @ ubuntu.com why not just read the damn thing?03:19
n0k|aI've installed many Linux and BSD server with fdisk, and no troubles03:20
kordocuz it doesnt help03:20
Ghost_PrinterKordo the only problem is between your chair and your keyboard03:20
Usunnysure it does03:20
] GoldenDragonwhen installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found"03:20
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BlueEaglejackdeth_: http://www.freeos.com/articles/3102/ looks comprehencive.03:20
Blazeixkordo, what problems did you have?03:20
Kyral!pastebin03:20
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:20
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n0k|abtw, with apt/synatic, is there a way to save state?03:20
BlueEaglejackdeth_: that is if you're familiar with 'cd', 'cp', 'mv' and so on and so forth. You might want to install mc to help navigate.03:21
kordodo i have to tell for 1000 time that i cant install a thing in Linux03:21
n0k|aso you save a list of all installed programs, so you can install onto other computers?03:21
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kordowhat u gonna tell me now03:21
kordoGo read03:21
BlazeixSorry, I just joined. I take it you are using apt-get?03:21
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Usunnyfind the terminal03:21
n0k|aRTFM03:21
kordoor Go to windows03:21
vem0mchill kodo03:21
JackDeth_fun03:21
Usunnywich we told you were to find a thousend times03:21
vem0mkordo*03:21
zcat[1] kordo: you got ubuntu installed, right?03:21
useenamen0k|a: you can try dpkg -L03:22
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n0k|aok03:22
kordoo,yeah,that's my favorite-this terminal,like find Loch Nes monster03:22
Dr_Willisgee start him on how to launch a terminal from gnome :P03:22
Dr_Willisthen work ya way up03:22
n0k|aand | "list.txt"03:22
kordoit doesnt exist03:22
Dr_Willisor you are over looking it.03:22
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kordoyes,only thing i have installed03:22
cyberslugkordo, What do you mean you cannot install? Do you mean that you cannot compile, or that you cannot use the apt-get system, or what?03:22
WarOfAttritionTFMS03:22
vem0mKordo PM03:22
useenamen0k|a: you can try dpkg --get-selections03:22
useenameis what I meant03:23
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Dr_Willisya could hit alt-f2 and type 'gnome-terminal'03:23
kordoi cannot get help03:23
kordoi am a new in linux03:23
vem0mtalk to em in PM03:23
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vem0mme*03:23
Dr_WillisYou can not get a 'tutor'03:23
rixthCan I rotate my display? I have this monitor http://supportapj.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/2407WFP/GRAPHICS/monitor-base-2.gif and I want to know if Xorg can output in portrait mode03:23
useenamedoes anyone know how to ignore a user?  I'm using Gaim03:23
vem0mblock them03:23
bimberilol useename03:23
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useenamerixth: look into xranr03:23
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useenamerixth: look into xrandr03:24
useenameis what I meant03:24
n0k|auseename, goto tools, privacy03:24
n0k|aand you can block people there03:24
BlazeixKordo, have you gone to www.ubuntuforums.org? Ubuntu has a very useful forum.03:24
useenamethe X resize and rotate extension, IIRC03:24
rixthuseename, thanks!03:24
ToHellWithGAis there a tool to easily convert windows/dos .txt files into appropriate character encoding that a terminal can handle03:24
kordoyeah,rigth03:24
snoopskordo people are willing to teach, but you need to be patient and willing to learn new things..03:24
danc3kordo: what do you need help with?03:24
useenametools, privacy only shows my AIM account, not the IRC one03:24
kordou can't help me in chat,what about forum03:24
useenameI tried "\ignore"03:25
ToHellWithGAwhen i cat files with some accented characters those characters appear as 03:25
useenameand "/ignore"03:25
kordowith install03:25
Dr_WillisToHellWithGA,  dozens of them.  ya need to translate the cr/lf format of dos to just the cr format of unix.  there are (dos2unix) and (unix2dos) commands that i rember also.03:25
foxinessi want to try this " http://users.utu.fi/ljtaim/dapper-improvments.php ",but before start doing that i want to know what happen with ppl who test this stuff "thank you"03:25
danc3kordo: what do you need help with on the install?03:25
ToHellWithGADr_Willis: it's deeper than that03:25
vem0min a chat with them click block at bottom o chat window03:25
kordovlc03:25
danc3vlc?03:25
vem0mhang on03:25
Dr_WillisToHellWithGA,  :()03:25
rixthHow can I find out what my currect display is?03:25
ToHellWithGAcr/lf to cr is an easy fix i can implement in my scripts03:25
kordovalknut03:25
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kordoother p2p for linux03:26
danc3kordo: if you're not going to speak in sentences I can understand, I can't help you03:26
kordowell,this is it,i dont know how to install them03:26
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vem0mVLC Media Player03:26
subzonejust /ignore kordo. he doesn't appreciate people here that help him.03:26
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vem0m?03:27
WarOfAttritionuseename: might as well use a better irc client03:27
ToHellWithGADr_Willis: http://thestonepedo.pastebin.ca/7840803:27
snoopsdance vlc is a media player. Kordo can't play mp3 files and videos etc.. links have been sent on setting up restricted formats.. to no avail.03:27
cyberslugkordo, What do you want to install?03:27
vem0mhmmmmmm03:27
arapehlWhat the heck is /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc?03:27
danc3snoops: lol, ok03:27
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kordooffffffff03:27
vem0mheh i had issues with mp303:27
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ToHellWithGAarapehl: those are IDE devices03:27
vem0mi had to get the xine crap03:27
cyberslugarapehl, Do you have multiple harddrives?03:27
mark_anyone out here with wifi experience?03:28
kordoi don't know anymore,just-dc++ for linux let's say03:28
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arapehlcyberslug: I've got two CD drives... a CD-ROM and a CD-RW and neither work :(03:28
JackDeth_yes03:28
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WarOfAttritionget fluendo then you can play mp3, search fluendo in the packages03:28
=== Dr_Willis wonders if anyone with a new/clean install can go to the "applications add/remove" item - and check 'show unsupported' then see if vlc and valknut show up in their list.
mark_I have an iBook g4 here with a bxm4306 wifi card03:28
ToHellWithGAarapehl: i think it's part of linux's HAL to call things on your IDE buses hda hdb hdc hdd... just like my sata drives are sda sdb sdc... (which i think applies to both SATA and SCSI iirc)03:28
vem0msudo apt-get install Programorneededfilehere03:28
arapehlcyberslug: I'm trying to debug the problem as best as a linux noob can and I've tracked down my cdrom and cdrw symlinks to those.03:28
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mark_it associates with my wireless acces point03:28
cyberslugarapehl, That is strange...03:29
mark_but it refuses to get an ip03:29
James_hmm, I tried writing a new dapper cd and I still get this error where it hangs at "booting the kernel" on the live cd and installer03:29
useenameDr_Willis : yes03:29
ToHellWithGAarapehl: let's look at /media03:29
cyberslugarapehl, Do the come up in: System -> Administration -> Disks?03:29
arapehlToHellWithGA: is it possible that for some reason something is broken in the way it identifies my drives?03:29
vem0mu sure DHCP is working mark?03:29
ToHellWithGAarapehl: ls /media/03:29
useenameDr_Willis : oh, sorry, no, probably because I have lots of repositories03:29
Tommy2k4 Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 403:29
ToHellWithGAwhich folders exist in /media?03:29
arapehlToHellWithGA: checking03:29
Tommy2k4why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine03:29
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James_could try a new cd drive i guess, but it worked fine with knoppix/dsl03:29
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arapehlToHellWithGA: cdrom and cdrom0 (though they're both different colors)03:30
mark_vem0m, I'm quite new to wireless03:30
mark_I never needed it03:30
snoopskordo if you'd like me to private message you on a few of the basics in linux I'd be happy to?03:30
vem0mjames it might be due to the kernel loading a hardware support driver and crashing due to a device problem on your end03:30
arapehlcyberslug: Uhm, what do you mean?03:30
tach00is there a channel for blag?03:30
ToHellWithGAarapehl: now look at your /etc/fstab.  "cat /etc/fstab"03:30
arapehlcyberslug: hang on checking03:30
mark_but dhcp is something I'm quite comfortable with03:30
Dr_Willisuseename,  lol :P03:30
James_ven0m, ah, i see....hmm03:30
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vem0mcheck and make sure its enable mark03:30
Dr_Willisuseename,  thats what im not sure of. I was thinkign the first install - it even asked to add the other repos03:30
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modernI have dapper up and running and realized that I have a non smp kernel running. When I load up a new kernel (smp) I get to the login screen and I have no mouse or keyboard control. Anyone know how to fix this?03:30
vem0mi had that problem with mandriva linux03:31
mark_vem0m, I can start a dhcp client, but it does nothing03:31
ToHellWithGAarapehl: when i do cat /etc/fstab i get (among other lines) "/dev/hdc        /media/dvdrw    udf,iso9660 user,noauto                 0   0"03:31
vem0mit failed on kernel load03:31
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cyberslugarapehl, Also, you might want to do what ToHellWithGA said: ls /media ... That will show you all the directories (and files) in the folder /media03:31
useenamedr_willis: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=vlc&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=all03:31
useenamevlc is in universe03:31
Dr_Willis!info vlc03:31
ubotuvlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB03:31
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vem0mhmmmmm well that is what u need aqurie an ip thu make sure u have it pointing to right gateway03:31
BlueEaglejackdeth_: http://www.lowfatlinux.com/linux-files.html also looks useful03:31
ToHellWithGAarapehl: if you'd like to get out of this crowded channel i could consult with you in PM and then if we can't solve the problem you could always return03:31
kordothere is no show unsupported03:31
arapehl#03:31
arapehl# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>03:31
arapehlproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       003:31
arapehl/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       103:31
arapehl/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       003:31
vanshi!03:31
arapehl/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       003:31
ToHellWithGAarapehl: let's PM03:32
zcat[1] !paste03:32
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:32
mark_vem0m, I know how dhcp works, I'm just wondering what else could be wrong03:32
ToHellWithGAthat is definitely pastebin worthy03:32
mark_or where dhcp and the wireless hardware interact03:32
vem0mhave u searched the forums?03:32
mark_yes03:32
vem0mmight help mark03:32
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vem0mhmmm03:32
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JackDeth_Sorry gang. Had a child-related emergency to attend to...   ;-)03:32
kordo5.4 must be03:32
JackDeth_I didn't know there was a koha for Windows. Thanks cat!03:32
vanssomebody  install ubuntu breezy in sony VAIO FJ 270??03:32
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vem0mis linux picking up DHCP support?03:33
cyberslugarapehl, Unfortunately I do not have time to sort out your problem ... Good Luck!03:33
JackDeth_However, I also planned on installing Zimbra on this same computer so would still need Linux anyway.03:33
vem0mtry the newest 6.0603:33
CrimsonScythehi guys. i'm going to use linux on my desktop in my new job (yay!), and i was wondering if anybody have experience with both gentoo and (k)ubuntu. which is the most convenient for maintenance in a job setting?03:33
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vem0mkordo as that version is a lil older03:33
zcat[1] windows is teh suck anyhow.. just letting you know all the options :)03:33
JackDeth_BlueEagle: What is mc?03:33
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kordowell,dont expect me to handle the new 103:34
Tommy2k4 Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 403:34
mark_vem0m, I have perfect wired access03:34
Tommy2k4why would that happen when phpmyadmin works fine03:34
cyberslugAnyway - See you later!03:34
danc3kordo: we don't expect you to do anything03:34
BlueEaglejackdeth_: midnight commander. A clone of the all-popular norton commander03:34
mark_and some communication is happening between my wireless modem and the access point03:34
BlueEaglejackdeth_: It's a graphical filesystem browser for *nix.03:34
cjonescan anyone help me configure wine?03:34
kordoi can get any help for that,what to say about new03:34
vansguy! which pavlkete need install for AGP nvidia 6600GT..03:34
vem0mwifi is still newly supported in linux i don't use it i am just throwing ideas out there03:34
vanscjones, tell me03:34
mark_ok, thx anyway03:34
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technelOk, so I went into the HP bios and I did a "Reset Options to Defaults". Now when I boot up I get the GRUB boot loader (I have a Win/Linux dual boot), it tells me that the partition doesn't exist, no matter what I select. What got messed up and how do I fix it?03:35
kordoI quit03:35
vanscjones,  i have wine workon properly03:35
vem0mKordo try upgrading to version 6.06 of ubuntu03:35
mark_anyone who could help me get my wireless working?03:35
James_ven0m: When i try to boot it into recovery more, it stops on: "ACPI: Looking for DSDT ... not found!"03:35
kordowhy?03:35
James_ven0m: if that helps...03:35
zcat[1] vans: apt-get install nvidia-glx03:35
mark_ibook g4, bcm4306 chipset03:35
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zcat[1] !nvidia03:35
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your monitor, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto03:35
vem0mmight work better for ya03:35
kordoi still wont understand03:35
cjonesvans i wont to run a game/programe called magic online but all i can to work in wine is notepad03:35
mark_iwlist eth0 scan shows me it sees my access point03:35
vem0mdo a search sorry we told u how03:35
vanszcat[1] , yes,,, but not work,,,try to nvidia-setting, nivida-;legacy,,03:35
danc3kordo: why don't you just go back to windoze, then?03:36
ssuehrheh03:36
Dr_Willisabout all the docs and guides are now being updated for the dapper release.. which is  6.0603:36
ssuehrhere we go again03:36
Dr_Willis:)03:36
kordocan u at least tell me how to erase the linux partition and not lose windows folders03:36
zcat[1] kordo: if you are already familiar with windows and have no particular need to migrate, you might be better off staying with windows03:36
Dr_Willisor install the latest dapper. that way we can be on the same 'level ground' :)03:36
mark_I can associate with my access point, but that is everything it seems03:36
kordowell,i didnt expected linux users to tell me to go top windows03:36
mark_any suggestions on how to troubleshoot03:36
kordobut u all say it so03:37
zcat[1] kordo: just reinstall windows, when it gets to partitioning remove everything that's not an NTFS or FAT filesystem03:37
kordowell03:37
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Dr_Williskordo,  get that ubuntu book when it comes out in the bookstores. :P03:37
mark_kordo, I haven't heard what your problem is exactly03:37
vanscjones, try instal    wine "program.exe" in .wine/program files, etc...and them... run the program   wine .wine/progra,,,/etc/etc/xxx,exe03:37
ssuehryeah, it's all our fault.  it has nothing to do with the fact that you don't take any of our suggestions.03:37
zcat[1] kordo: we tried to help.. you seem to have trouble understanding what you're told.03:37
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kordoi am afraid it doesnt recognize non-NTFS03:37
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danc3kordo: format c: /u /y03:37
ardchoilleHow do I put an app launcher on the xfce desktop?03:37
kordou didnt03:38
vem0mkordo search the forums u shall find what u seek03:38
kordou give me some links only03:38
zcat[1] windows will know if the filesystem isn't NTFS and can remove and reformat it, even if it can't read it.03:38
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vem0mi found everything i needed so far there03:38
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kordoand tell me to go to windows03:38
kordoonly that u did03:38
cjonesvans thanks ill give it a try03:38
vem0mthis is 2nd day using ubuntu also all the info i needed was on the forums03:38
vanscjones, goog luck!03:38
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kordono1 told me how to install anything03:38
ssuehryes, they did kordo03:39
Dr_Williskordo,  they also told you to use the latest ubuntu, now that we have extabilished the fact you are using   version 5.403:39
zcat[1] the links describe how to do what you want. I'm not going to retype an entire webpage in here just because you're too lazy to open a browser03:39
danc3kordo: STFU and go away03:39
vem0mread the links03:39
ssuehri feel /ignore coming03:39
BlueEagledanc3: now, there, there. No point in letting the troll get to you.03:39
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abstractismhello03:39
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vanscjones, remember the path of you Windowd emolatur     /~user/.wine/......03:39
kordoi told u i did03:39
Dr_Williskordo,  ya could try 'alt-f2' then run the command 'sudo apt-get install vlc'03:39
danc3BlueEagle: true dat03:39
kordoand download software03:39
vem0myep i said same03:39
ssuehranyone else think that kordo is just here to annoy and really doesn't have any problem at all?03:39
danc3kordo: stick to windoze03:39
subzonekordo: this is not a paid-support room where people here MUST help you. roll back to your room and sleep.03:39
danc3kordo: <------------TROLL03:39
Kibou!synaptic03:39
ubotusynaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:39
abstractismcan anyone help me get my ubuntu system to read mac formatted CDs?03:39
zcat[1] <plonk>  talk to the filter...03:40
vem0mhehe mac03:40
kordoIs this Linux society?03:40
BlueEaglekordo: If you want to remove linux and recover the space for use with windows you simply fire up fdisk in windows and erase the partitions on which you installed linux. Then format it in a windows compatible file system.03:40
technelIs there a way to re-generate fstab?03:40
mark_abstractism, as far as I know, macs also format CD's in the iso9660 format03:40
ssuehrbye kordo\03:40
danc3kordo: <------------TROLL03:40
kordoGo to windows,get out,go to read03:40
kordoTroll03:40
Tommy2k4why wont mysql work in php5 when phpmyadmin works fine03:40
danc3kordo: you forgot STFU03:40
Dr_Willisupdate to the latest. even :P03:40
vem0myep should be readable not usable but readlable if not use a mac emu03:40
Tommy2k4Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/config.inc.php on line 403:41
kordowhat is stfu03:41
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abstractismmark_: I can't get this to work then03:41
ssuehrany ops here ever kickban anyone?03:41
danc3kordo: google it03:41
James_kordo: www.google.com03:41
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vem0mShut the fuck up STFU03:41
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zcat[1] ssuehr: yeah, seveas kickbanned me once :)03:41
Ghost_PrinterKordo = ID10T03:41
BlueEaglekordo: but "go read" is typical for the linux community. Why should we look things up in the manual and copy it here when teaching you how to use the manual will help you in so many more ways?03:41
vem0m:P03:41
Comrade_S!language03:41
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.03:41
skavengeno one is going to walk you through everything especially when everyone here put hours of reading online themselves to get things working well .. being lazy is no excuse03:41
abstractismI'm trying to get my old lucasarts games running with scummvm03:41
vem0mlol03:41
mark_abstractism, sorry, I'm afraid I can't help you any further03:41
Dr_WillisThen realize you are using a year old out of date install. :)03:42
mark_or at least not much03:42
Dr_Willisabstractism,  hard core! :)03:42
kordo'alt-f2' then run the command 'sudo apt-get install vlc'03:42
kordodoesnt work03:42
illusin1Anyone have any suggestions on how to get dual screens to "dock" windows as opposed to having a virtual "2600x1024" type resolution? e.g. two windows to handle separate dockings03:42
BlueEaglekordo: no windows folders reside on any linux partitions (uless you've moved them over after installing linux)03:42
vem0mlol what does it say?03:42
abstractismwell, I'll try again and post results and such of what happens03:42
mark_abstractism, what happens when you insert the cd03:42
kordocuz i told u this manuals are for at least advanced users03:42
mark_?03:42
ardchoillekordo: are you trying to install vlc?03:42
vem0mkordo what does ti say03:42
JackDeth_Thanks for all the feedback gang!  Thanks for the links BlueEagle.03:42
zcat[1] !vlc03:42
ubotuAudio/MP3 Players: amaroK, Audacious, Banshee, Beep-media-player, JuK, quodlibet, Rhythmbox, XMMS ; Video players: Totem, Xine, Mplayer, VLC - also see !codecs03:42
James_ven0m: seem to have "fixed" it by booting with 'acpi=off' at the boot prompt03:42
vem0mno they are for nubs like u kordo03:43
BlueEaglejames_: np. :)03:43
vem0madvanced don't need manual03:43
danc3kordo: <------------NUB/TROLL03:43
Dr_Willisvem0m,  :)03:43
kordoCannot display location03:43
JackDeth_I'm going to go attempt to set all this up with no prior experience and see how far I can go before I really mess things up.   ;-)03:43
JackDeth_Cheers!03:43
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James_will 'acpi=off' cause me any problems in the long term?03:43
vem0mahhhhhh told u it was the kernel loading something :P03:43
James_(anything noticeable)03:43
zcat[1] JackDeth_: fresh install, no dual-boot?03:43
JackDeth_zcat - Correct. I'm just going to hose Windows on that computer all together.03:44
snoopsJackDeth_ fresh ubuntu install without dual-booting I've found is nice and easy :)03:44
vem0mno03:44
kordoThere is no Linux society03:44
illusin1Anyone have any ideas?03:44
danc3kordo: sure there is, but you sure aren't part of it03:44
ardchoillekordo: are you trying to install vlc?03:44
vem0mjames just might fix something on your end :P03:44
] GoldenDragonafter installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found"03:44
BlueEaglekordo: ok, let's take this from the top: To install applications using a graphical interface use synaptic or adept or the other application installer that I don't remember the name of. To install applications on the command line please use aptitude or apt-get03:44
zcat[1] Yeah, well.. most stuff is automatic.. if you know your timezone, what language you speak, and what your own name is, you generally can't go too far wrong.03:44
JackDeth_Thanks again guys!03:44
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kdittydoes anyone else have a problem with nautlis messing up sometimes and not loading again until reboot?03:44
abstractismactually03:44
abstractismthis is odd03:44
WarOfAttritiontrolls... some people have a strange sense of entertainment03:45
Dr_Willishttp://monkeyblog.org/ubuntu/installing.html   :)03:45
vem0mkordo either read and search or use windows i hate windows i don't recommend it to anyone but if u aren't willing to read and learn stick with the kiddie crap windows03:45
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kordoBlue,u think i understand that?03:45
] GoldenDragondr willis, what's that for?03:45
Dr_Willisfor our pet troll. :)03:45
Kibouuse osx.. it's made for morons03:45
James_brb03:45
kordoMac?03:45
danc3kordo: what "do" you understand?  Are you a complete moron, or what?03:45
BlueEaglekordo: Yes I do, because you will find "Adept" or "Synaptic" under the system->administration menu. It should even be labled "Package manager".03:45
ardchoillekordo: would you like to try and help?03:45
vem0mlmao03:46
subzonekordo: do us a flavour, leave this place.03:46
zcat[1] as ooposed to windows which is made BY morons... :)03:46
Kibouhehe03:46
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Dr_Willisheh heh03:46
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WarOfAttritionI don't know what's worse. trolls, or people who fall for trolls03:46
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kordoNo Linux society acts like this03:46
technelOk, so I went into the HP bios and I did a "Reset Options to Defaults". Now when I boot up I get the GRUB boot loader (I have a Win/Linux dual boot), it tells me that the partition doesn't exist, no matter what I select. What got messed up and how do I fix it?03:46
danc3kordo: STFU03:46
meherenis there a way to have coloured command line?03:46
BlueEagledanc3: Please do not harm him. Yes, he is a n00b and yes I would prefer it if he was a newbie, but trolling back at him won't make him learn anything at all.03:46
KyoLaptop1Hey, someone says he was banned without ever having been in here03:47
kordou r just linux users,not society03:47
KyoLaptop1nick = winner03:47
vem0mno person using linux is so unwilling to read and learn as u are kordo03:47
ardchoillekordo: I have asked you three times if you want me to help you. Do you want some help with your problem?!?03:47
hyphenatedtechnel: you probably changed the drive mode from LBA to CHS03:47
KyoLaptop1can an Op PM him about it please?03:47
danc3BlueEagle: yeah ok03:47
] GoldenDragonafter installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found" anyone got pcsx working on ubuntu before?03:47
abstractismactually this CD is acting funky03:47
snoopstechnel do you have other hdd's on that pc?03:47
BlueEagledanc3: Thank you.03:47
GaiaX11Why are people sending kordo away? Is that fair?03:47
technelsnoops: Yes, two hard drives03:47
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kordoand i can tell u if i knew how to use Linux,i would be able to explain03:47
BlueEaglekordo: Now, have you found synaptic in the menu yet?03:47
technelhyphenated: So I could change that back in the BIOS?03:47
snoopstechnel grub is probably pointing to the wrong hdd..03:47
Dr_WillisGaiaX11,  how long you been watching this go  on?  its going on like 20 hrs now.03:47
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vem0mI AM ONLY AT DAY 2 OF USING LINUX!03:48
hyphenatedtechnel: yeah. you should have a choice between 'Auto', 'CHS', 'LBA' or something03:48
technelsnoops: But it worked fine before. GRUB booted up the partitions perfectly until I defaulted the settings03:48
danc3GaiaX11: did you just wake up or something?03:48
GaiaX11Dr_Willis, What?03:48
vem0mits not hard just READ!03:48
technelhyphenated: And I want LBA?03:48
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kordoi did it 3 hours ago,so what?03:48
hyphenatedtechnel: usually, yeah03:48
KyoLaptop1wait a sec03:48
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vem0mREAD KORDO03:48
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abstractismactually, I have a different problem now ;)03:48
KyoLaptop1Why did you guys ban @silenceisdefeat.org ?03:48
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technelhyphenated: Ok, let me go try and I will let you know if it works. Thanks!03:48
snoopsah technel, k guess you should follow hyphenated's suggestions, sorry :)03:48
vem0mu may learn to fix your problem03:48
kordoi need to install programs and do sometnig with this OS03:48
Kibouhe's going for a troll marathon03:48
meherenis there a way to colourize ur terminal?03:48
KyoLaptop1the hell did they do to you guys?03:48
looksausanyone out here who could help me diagnose a problem with wireless?03:48
WarOfAttritionbecause @silenceisdefeat.org sucks03:48
cyphasekordo, what are you having trouble with?03:48
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vem0mREAD that is how u learn to install and USE THIS os03:49
kordocant watch video,listen to music,use p2p programs03:49
cyphasei didn't see..03:49
danc3meheren: yes there is03:49
cyphasekordo, which p2p programs?03:49
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meherengentoo has a cloured terminal (red name of computer blue the filepath)03:49
BlueEaglekordo: If you are talking to me it would greatly help if you prefixed the line with "blueeagle:". That way it highlights in my IRC client.03:49
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kordoeMule,DC++03:49
meherendanc3, how?03:49
KyoLaptop1are there any ops in the channel right now?03:49
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danc3meheren: google "bash color prompt"03:49
ssuehryet another attempt03:49
vem0muse amule03:49
cyphasekordo, try installing gtk-gnutella03:49
BlueEaglekordo: Now after starting synaptic you will get a nice interface that will list all packages that are availible to you in your active repositories.03:49
vem0minstead of emule03:49
kordowell Blue,i dont know how03:49
nverhaarim having problems with Ubuntu and IPTABLES. I have allowed MASQUERADE'ing for all outgoing traffic on ETH1 and attempting to transfer files to/from an external FTP on port 1111 and i keep getting 426 CONNECTION CLOSED errors at seemingly random times. I setup an IPCop box and tried the same thing and it worked flawlessly. Any ideas?03:49
zcat[1] ssuehr: you mean another successfull troll from kordo.. ?03:49
meherendanc3, ok03:49
james__thanks all for your help anyway (but i found the solution in the forum in the end :)03:50
BlueEaglekordo: just type bluee and hit TAB that will complete the nick. :)03:50
GaiaX11danc3, Dr_Willis, why are people angry with kordo? I want to understand that.03:50
abstractismit reads the disc but now I can't get at the files03:50
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KibouBlueEagle: he refused to get synapitc 2 hours ago already03:50
abstractismthere's data and audio tracks on here03:50
danc3GaiaX11: because he's been offered the solution to his problems, but refuses to listen, or even try03:50
kordoBlueEagle, yeah,it works03:50
BlueEaglekibou: No point in giving up on him yet. :)03:50
vem0mkordo u are now ignored for being not only stupid but annoying03:50
BlueEaglekibou: So you've got synaptic up and running?03:50
KyoLaptop1hundreds of people were banned for no reason, come on03:50
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zcat[1] GaiaX11: because he asks questions and then utterly, totally fails to follow any of the replies.03:50
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cyphasekordo: as far as media, run this command..03:51
ssuehrnverhaar, it's not a ftp port issue, is it?  as in, use 'passive' for the xfer?03:51
hyphenated!ops03:51
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!03:51
Dr_WillisGaiaX11,  hes been going on for about Hmm 20 hrs now.. demands help then dosent listen,  then rants about how we suck03:51
Kiboukibou != kordo03:51
seawolf_sheesh, these questions and kordo's ignorance are driving me to the edge of insansity, back to sanity03:51
kordoInstead all helping,u are all united against me,Society of Linux03:51
cyphaseapt-get install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg gstreamer0.10-gl gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse gstreamer0.10-pitfdll totem-xine gxine libxine-extracodecs vlc03:51
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danc3yes!03:51
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vem0meveryone type /ignore kordo03:51
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Dr_WillisOr coruse Now it comes out hes using Ubuntu 5.4 (i think)03:51
vem0mno more kordo03:51
GaiaX11All right!03:51
BlueEaglekibou: I do apoligize. I am too lazy with my nick completer. :)03:51
WarOfAttrition100s? as long as it's not 1000s it's fine03:51
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Dr_Willisso of course none of the guides/docs/ apply any more.03:51
hyphenatedgnomefreak: while you're at it, you could probably help KyoLaptop1 out03:51
BlueEaglekordo: So you've got synaptic up and running?03:51
vem0mits been known he refuses to upgrade03:51
Kibou:P03:51
useenamevem0m: that doesn't work because I'm using Gaim03:51
] GoldenDragonafter installing pcsx through synaptec and trying to enter command "pcsx" in terminal i get the error "line 31: lndir: command not found" anyone got pcsx working on ubuntu before?03:51
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useenameanyone know how to ignore a user in Gaim?03:52
vem0msad i am using konversation03:52
kordoBlueEagle, yes,but it is not dc++ client on it03:52
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gnomefreakwhat did he do03:52
kitsuneofdoomI am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z03:52
KyoLaptop1Ok, gnomefreak (or any op who isn't afk), could you please unban @silenceisdefeat.org?03:52
vem0mbrb03:52
BlueEaglekordo: Ok. Have you modefied the file called /etc/apt/sources.list ?03:52
BlueEagle!easyubuntu03:52
GaiaX11If he refuses to listen and to try, he wll not learn anything from here then. That's a pity!03:52
ubotuEasyUbuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.03:52
BlueEaglehmm03:52
KyoLaptop1at least 200 people have been blocked from the channel due to that ban03:52
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BlueEagle!source-o-matic03:53
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic03:53
danc3how can you regulars in here take this kind of punishment...?  This channel is absolutely painful.03:53
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Ghost_PrinterKordo...people have tried to help you but your too damn lazy to do anything....you freakin troll03:53
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kitsuneofdoomI am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z, and when I load gdm using it, the computer crashes03:53
WarOfAttritionthen they probably deserved it, that doesn't sound like any isp to me03:53
kordoBlueEagle, see why this sites cant help?What is this file to modifie03:53
vem0mkitsuneofdoom: hey PM i will help u with ATi03:53
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KyoLaptop1WarOfAttrition.03:53
gnomefreakKyoLaptop1: tell him to join #ubuntu-offtopic03:53
skavengedanc3: its not usually this bad, most people wanting help are serious03:53
KyoLaptop1silenceisdefeat is a public access unix server03:53
cyphasesorry. i thought 3 lines was the limit03:53
cyphasemy bad03:53
WarOfAttritionyou mean a proxy?03:53
danc3can't take this place any longer03:53
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kordoI am not lazy,just cant understand,u r talking with commands03:54
KyoLaptop1did I say proxy?03:54
cyphaseah, right. 3 lines on my screen isn't 3 lines on mine. doh03:54
WarOfAttritionwell that's what it is if they're connecting through it03:54
cyphaseyours*03:54
zcat[1] kordo: are you in ubuntu now?03:54
gnomefreakcyphase: no its cool03:54
KyoLaptop1WarOfAttrition, I suppose it could be used as a proxy, why?03:54
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KyoLaptop1is that reason enough for a ban?03:54
WarOfAttritionthis server doesn't allow proxies03:55
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cyphaseanyway, kordo..03:55
kordostill didn't try to format the linux part :)03:55
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KyoLaptop1ah.03:55
BlueEaglekordo: To get a customized sources.list file please go to http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic and check fill in the form with "Dapper", and your architecture (should be i386), fill in the two-letter code for your country and check "Include updates" and "Include security updates" Then check off "Packages" for every repository that lists "Dapper" as a supported version.03:55
cyphaseeveryone here is volunteerting03:55
cyphase!patience03:55
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:55
KyoLaptop1well, it isn't just a proxy.03:55
BlueEaglekordo: That will give you a sources list with your nearest mirror and all repositories.03:55
KyoLaptop1you donate a buck to get in, and it c-03:55
Dr_WillisBlueEagle,  i dont think hes using dapper.03:55
KyoLaptop1screw it, just visit silenceisdefeat.org for info03:55
BlueEagledr_willis: Really?03:55
zcat[1] kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?03:56
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BlueEaglekordo: Do you know if you're using dapper or breezy or hoary?03:56
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Dr_WillisBlueEagle,  yes - that fact came out a while ago.. i think - hes using ubuntu 5.4  whatever that is.03:56
zcat[1] warty?03:56
naliothKyoLaptop1: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that03:56
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elkbuntuno, hoary03:56
NickGarveyhoary?!03:56
BlueEagle5.4 would be hoary I guess.03:56
NickGarvey!03:57
WarOfAttritionblame the scum that uses proxies for dos attacks03:57
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Dr_Willisi always found the use of names - to be annoying. :)03:57
gnomefreakBlueEagle: hoary was 5.0403:57
BlueEaglewarofattrition: blame the people that runs open proxies for people to run dos attacks trough. :)03:57
KyoLaptop1right03:57
KyoLaptop1even though you can't run your own programs in silenceisdefeat.org.03:57
kordohow do u download from this site?03:58
KyoLaptop1your logic fails, WarOfAttrition03:58
BlueEaglekordo: ok, mark off all that list "hoary" as supported version. Either that or you might want to upgrade for a number of reasons. One being that hoary is soon to be unsupported (if it's not already)03:58
WarOfAttritiondo I make the server rules?03:58
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ardchoilleBlueEagle: Hoary is no longer supported03:58
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gnomefreakKyoLaptop1: join #ubuntu-offtopic for that please03:58
gnomefreakardchoille: yes it is03:59
chespiritowhat does /i686/soundtest.o mean?03:59
gnomefreakwarty is no longer supported03:59
ardchoillegnomefreak: It is? ok, I stand corrected.03:59
elkbuntu18 months is not up yet03:59
gnomefreakardchoille: until oct03:59
BlueEaglekordo: You can copy and paste it.03:59
ardchoillegnomefreak: yeah, I must have been thinking about Warty03:59
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WarOfAttritioneither way, thanks to them, a webhost will charge you more for dos attack defense. thanks to scum03:59
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elkbuntuWarOfAttrition, please take this to -offtopic04:00
gnomefreakWarOfAttrition: join #ubuntu-offtopic04:00
BlueEaglekordo: the easiest way is to open a terminal and run the command: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:00
jorgeuhi, i need help with locales in ubuntu 6 LTS. The locale configuration "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't let me choose with locales i want, it just generate the locales already installed. Any idea?04:00
ssuehrkordo claims to have no terminal04:00
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BlueEaglekordo: it will prompt for your password and open an editor with root privileges.04:00
kordoHow are u even working with that Linux?04:00
technelhyphenated: I couldn't find what you were referring to. I got a more detailed error though: "Could not find partition   root (hd0,2)   Error 22: No such partition" perhaps that ISN'T the right partition...hd0,2?04:00
Kibouhaha04:00
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kordohow to open terminal04:01
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zcat[1] kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?04:01
BlueEaglekordo: It should be in your applications menu.04:01
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elkbuntukordo, applications > accessories > terminal04:01
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BlueEaglekordo: or you can press ALT+F2 and type in gnome-terminal in the run dialog box.04:01
snoopstechnel, you can try others.. hd0 refers tot he first hdd, then ,n is the partition, starting at 004:01
kordothere is no terminal there04:01
zcat[1] kordo: are you actually reading any of this or are you a troll script?04:01
zcat[1] kordo: are you in ubuntu now? Do you know which is the bottom-left corner of your screen? Can you find the applications menu?04:01
snoopstechnel so hd0,2 would be first hdd, third partition04:02
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jorgeuhi, i need help with locales (i hate UTF-8) in ubuntu 6 LTS. The locale configuration "dpkg-reconfigure locales" doesn't let me choose with locales i want, it just generate the locales already installed. Any idea?04:02
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Kibouisn't it the upper left by default?04:02
technelsnoops: But why would have my BIOS effected GRUB? =\04:02
ardchoillezcat[1] : unless he moved his panel, Applications menu should be in the top left of the screen04:02
elkbuntuis anyone trying 1 on 1 in private dialog with him?04:02
zcat[1] sorry..04:02
kordokordokuvas@ubuntu-kordokuvas:~$04:02
gnomefreakjorgeu: go to system>admin>language04:02
ardchoilleelkbuntu: I tried, but I guess he ignored me04:02
kordonow what04:02
chespiritokordo has no terminal?04:02
BlueEagleelkbuntu: What would be the odds of him having registered with nickserv?04:02
snoopstechnel it could have changed the way hdd's were detected? switched them? I'm grasping at straws04:02
ssuehryay, terminal!04:02
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elkbuntuBlueEagle, good point04:02
ardchoilleBlueEagle: heh, good point04:03
snoopstechnel are both hdd's detected in bios?04:03
kordowell it only comes out with Alt+F204:03
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technelsnoops: Yep. I went to the drives section and it showed both of them.04:03
BlueEaglekordo: Good, now type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list04:03
technelsnoops: The settings appear to be the same as before (I had looked at them just before I did the reset)04:03
BlueEaglekordo: it will prompt you for your password and then open an editor04:03
gnomefreakBlueEagle: gksudo please04:03
naliothBlueEagle: keep !gksudo and !kdesu in mind, please04:03
chespiritowhat exactly is kordo trying to do?04:03
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abstractismkdesu, heh04:03
technelsnoops: Perhaps my MBR is bad?04:03
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Dr_Willischespirito,  installing stuff on a 5.4 install04:04
kordodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20050330)] / hoary main restricted04:04
snoopsk technel.. well I guess I'd just try getting it to boot, so I'd mess with grub.. wait for it to load, then hit a key before it starts to load04:04
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kordonow?04:04
siriusnovahello04:04
siriusnovacan anyone help me with wpa_supplicant?04:04
siriusnovai need to compile it from source04:04
chespiritoDr_Willis: oh,ok...5.04,that looks strange04:04
kordoand how do you remember this commands?04:04
nalioth!compile > siriusnova04:04
siriusnovabecause i installed patched madwifi drivers04:04
chespiritobut i have my own problems actually :)04:04
Dr_Willischespirito,  and its so out of date now - its scary.04:04
`daffodilhas anyone had any luck installing winXP under win4lin with Dapper?04:04
technelsnoops: What do you mean hit a key before it starts to load?04:04
siriusnovanalioth - hmm ?04:04
siriusnova!compile04:04
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first!)04:04
Dr_Willishow do we rember commands? its all logical.04:04
naliothsiriusnova: you have a PM04:04
kordoBlueEagle, it opened it04:04
kordonow?04:04
BlueEaglekordo: Now delete everything there exept for the line that reads: deb cdrom:[Ubuntu....04:05
naliothsiriusnova: that was unnecessary04:05
snoopsthen you can hit e, to edit the main line, and which partition, hdd it boots from technel.. I don't see how an mbr would be corrupted/edited from changing a bios setting.. umm grub gives you a count down before it tries to boot an os.. bit a key that isn't enter before than to stop the countdown04:05
ssuehrdaffodil, I've not tried but I've had great luck with VMWare workstation under Linux, running a WinXP client on the Linux host.04:05
ardchoillegnomefreak: how do I run nautilus with gksudo ?04:05
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naliothsiriusnova: the bot has been changed to send factoids differently than before04:05
siriusnovanalioth - i dont understand04:05
gnomefreakardchoille: gksudo nautilus04:05
siriusnovaahh ok04:05
kordoBlueEagle, i did it04:05
BlueEaglekordo: Now have you been to the source-o-matic and chosen all repositories that are supported for hoary?04:05
gnomefreakardchoille: not always a good idea btqw04:05
gnomefreak-q04:05
ardchoillegnomefreak: ahh, ok04:05
kordoyes04:05
snoopstechnel then hit e on the one you want to try and boot, and change the root line, trying different hd combinations.. I'm just grasping at straws since it's all so odd04:05
kordothey are not much04:05
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BlueEaglekordo: Did you get the automatically generated sources.list in your browser?04:06
siriusnovathat page doesnt really help me with wpasupplicant04:06
siriusnova:(04:06
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naliothsiriusnova: join #ubuntu-classroom please04:06
technelsnoops: Would "sudo mount hd0,3 mnt" do basically the same thing?04:06
jorgeugnomefreak: that admin tool only handle the language support installed. Don't let me drop UTF-8 that is my problem now. In past releases of ubuntu the command "dpkg-reconfigure locales" solved it because were possible to uncheck all the UFT-8 related locales and select the NON-UTF-8 locales. It isn't possible anymore?04:06
technelsnoops: To test if it works04:06
BlueEaglekordo: Good, now select everything in your browser by clicking and dragging to mark it. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the line you left.04:06
kordoBlueEagle, im not sure it is in browser like and it says:04:06
`daffodilssuehr, i will look into that and give that a shot, i'm a bit new to this emulation/virtualization thing, i just want to find something that will let me run the whole winXP OS under linux, so then i can finally do away with it, guess i'm turning into more of an ubuntu-aholic than i originally bargained for :)04:06
BlueEaglekordo: That should paste the new sources.list in your gedit window.04:06
kordodeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.04 _Hoary Hedgehog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20050330)] / hoary main restricted04:06
snoopstechnel nope, it wouldn't. that'd generate an error04:07
technelsnoops: Why?04:07
`daffodilssuehr:  and VMware worked under dapper for you?04:07
BlueEaglekordo: is that all you got from source-o-matic?04:07
chespiritoHoary Hedgehog,i feel like i'm in my grandma's house when i read that04:07
kordoBlueEagle, huh?04:07
snoopstechnel grub sees hdd's as hd number,partition.. linux sees them as /dev/hda, /dev/hdb.. or /dev/sda /dev/sdb04:07
ssuehrI installed it under Debian Sarge today and I'll be installing it under Dapper soon.  I would expect that it would work under Dapper at least as good as under Sarge04:07
technelsnoops: Ohh, ok. Are you going to be around for a little while? It will take me a bit to test it and this LiveCD takes ages to load04:08
kordoBlueEagle, no,that is from this alt f2 commands04:08
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BlueEaglekordo: in the gedit window?04:08
snoopstechnel okay, and yeah I'll be around04:08
technelsnoops: Alright, thanks04:08
kitsuneofdoomI am trying to get ATI accelerated graphics to work, I have an HP dv5000z, and when I load gdm using it, the computer crashes04:08
chespiritoanyway,what i want to know is.04:08
kordoBlueEagle,  gedit window?04:08
lostincI have several hundred page docs to scan into the system as PDFs is there a good prog to do this?04:08
`daffodilthanks for the info ssuehr :)04:08
chespiritoi am compiling cinelerra,the ./configure went well.04:08
BlueEaglekordo: The window that opened with the command sudo gedit.04:08
kordoo,yes,i see it is on the top04:09
chespiritoi tried "make" and i receive an error message about some "i686/soundtest.o"04:09
chespiritowhat does that mean?04:09
kordoBlueEagle, yes-gedit04:09
vem0mhmmmmm04:09
BlueEaglekordo: Now please go to your browser.04:09
vem0mwhat error exactly?04:09
chespiritoFATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: Arquivo ou diretrio no encontrado04:09
chespiritothat is portuguese for "file or directory not found"04:09
BlueEaglekordo: Have you got the text #Automatically generated sources.list there?04:09
nverhaarssuehr, its not a PASSIVE/ACTIVE issue im having... the problem is intermittent. FTP transfers to an external FTP on port 1111 work well with small files, but once the files get larger im getting 426 CONNECTION CLOSED errors at seemingly random intervals04:09
vem0mu do a ./configure first?04:10
chespiritoyes04:10
kordoBlueEagle, it's open:http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic04:10
BlueEaglekordo: Did you fill in the form like I told you to?04:10
vem0mtry sudo make04:10
chespirito same error04:10
NickGarveyvem0m: you shouldn't need to do that04:10
chespiritodumb question.04:10
NickGarveyvem0m: the only sudo you should need is for make install04:10
kordoyes,with packages of hoary04:10
chespiritoit is about sound,so i think i should ask it04:10
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vem0mwell i usally use it and all goes fine :P04:10
NickGarveychespirito: have you googled your error?04:11
BlueEaglekordo: good, did you click the button "Give me a sources.list" at the bottom?04:11
vem0myea google loves helping04:11
chespiritoNickGarvey, yes,i found nothing useful04:11
vem0m:P04:11
vem0mhmmmm04:11
chespiritoanyway,is the "sound" error related to amarok?04:11
vem0mwhat is it u are trying to install?04:11
chespiritocinelerra.04:11
kitsuneofdoomI think I found a way to fix my problem, but it involves downgrading a version of a package, how would I do this?04:11
chespiritoi mean,everytime i get an error message with the word "sound" on it,i blame it on amarok.04:11
kordoBlueEagle, now i did :)04:11
NickGarveychespirito: could you pate the error?04:11
vem0mcan u get it thu apt-get or adept?04:11
BlueEaglekordo: Good now click and drag to mark the text in the browser. Then go to the gedit window and click your middle button below the last line you've got there. This should in theory past the content of the generated sources list into your gedit window.04:11
NickGarveychespirito: paste*04:11
whyamichespirito: I built cinelerra for ubuntu awhile back. I wish I documented. If I remember right, it is trying to build for esd? I think you do something like ./configure --disable-esd (unless you really want esd...) do ./configure --help, maybe or if that doesn't work, edit the configure file and look for the options.04:12
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chespiritoFATAL: can't create i686/soundtest.o: File or directory not gound.04:12
chespiritofound* :P04:12
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chespiritoit didnt say gound anyway,i translated from portuguese.04:12
whyamiI like gound....04:12
chespiritowhyami, what is esd?04:12
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BlueEaglegound is good for you!04:12
gnomefreak!pt04:12
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.04:12
chespiritoi don't know what gound is04:12
farkyhow can i share a connection?04:12
vem0mchespirito can u get it thu apt-get or adept?04:12
NickGarveychespirito: ah, well, then you need to get that, and I have no idea how to do so.. so I think.. google would be your best (only) bet04:12
chespiritognomefreak, i dont need ubuntu-br,i know english :P04:12
kordoBlueEagle, cant understand04:13
whyamichespirito: esd is the enlightenment sound daemon, that gnome seems to like. It's been nothing but trouble for me. In any case, I vaguely remember that I couldn't make either, and then I configured without esd and all was ok.04:13
kordocant just i copy/paste?04:13
chespiritowhyami, I'll try it04:13
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BlueEaglekordo: That is what I am telling you to do.04:13
BlueEaglekordo: The quick way is to mark the text to copy it and click the middle button to paste it. :)04:14
ardchoilleAnyone know how to get an app launcher on the desktop?04:14
kordou sayd drag :)04:14
ardchoillethe xfce desktop04:14
chespiritoanother doubt,is gound a real word?04:14
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kordoblue04:14
whyamichespirito: not that I know of. BTW which source for cinelerra did you pick up? There are a couple...04:15
kordoBlueEagle, this quick doesnt work.copy/paste did04:15
chespiritowhyami, i tried --disable-esd and the error was the same,the source i picked up was...04:15
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chespirito2.104:15
BlueEaglekordo: Ok, well that can happen. The important thing is that your source.list is in your gedit window.04:15
Dr_Williswhy dont you marry it then. :P04:15
BlueEaglekordo: now save that file.04:15
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BlueEaglekordo: If you closed synaptic before please open it again now.04:15
whyamichespirito: is there another error earlier that perhaps you aren't noticing becuase it doesn't break the make process?04:16
vem0mlol i would if i wasn't engaged to my lovely bride to be04:16
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Dr_Willisvem0m,  run away!04:16
snoopsWould anyone know anything about mapping mouse buttons?04:16
kordoBlueEagle, safe and open04:16
whyamichespirito: but where did you get this source? I think there's a fork in the source development.04:16
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chespiritoi got that one on sourceforge04:16
vem0mNO!04:16
vem0m:P04:16
BlueEaglekordo: Hang on, I will just need to check this setting.04:17
ssuehrcan you do an 'iptables -nL' from the ipcop machine to see what it's doing differently than your custom rules?04:17
whyamichespirito: also, just so you know, there is a #cinelerra room04:17
kordoBlueEagle, oks04:17
Dr_Willissnoops,  ive seen quite a few gentoo wiki pages that cover  the MD518 and other mice - in aganozing details.:)04:17
chespiritoin this server?04:17
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Dr_Willisoops mx51804:17
whyamichespirito: tes.04:17
whyamiI mean yes04:17
kitsuneofdoomI need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version04:17
chespiritoi'll try asking for help there04:17
kitsuneofdoom2.24.804:17
vem0mbrb all04:17
kitsuneofdoom8.24.8 I mean04:17
whyamichespirito: so you are SURE you are reporting the first error and there isn't another one earlier in the build that you haven't noticed?04:18
snoopsDr_Willis haha.. I'm wondering if it's possible to map two buttons to the same function.. say middle click and left click both map to 'left click'04:18
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kitsuneofdoomI need to get the xorg-driver-fglrx package version 8.24.8 instead of 2.26.18 which is the recent version04:18
XVampireXBig problem on elm street04:18
Dr_Willissnoops,  yes it is. i did that a long time ago.. and amazing thing was the windows drivers would NOT let me do that04:18
XVampireXMy microphone doesn't want to work04:18
Dr_Willissnoops,  i had a hurt finger so i made the thumb button click :P04:18
spadessnoops you can keysm with xmodmap iirc04:18
chespiritowhyami, there is actually another error in the make.04:18
whyamichespirito: and that would be...04:18
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chespiritomake -f build/Makefile.cinelerra04:19
chespiritosh: -c: line 1: sintaxe error: unespected "end of file"04:19
technelsnoops, So, yeah. Ubuntu is now booting, (hd1,2) worked, but Windows it just says unrecognized partition type04:19
XVampireXHi04:19
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XVampireXCan anyone help me with the microphone?04:19
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whyamichespirito: and is there an error before that one?04:19
snoopsspades oh how would I use keysm? Like I've tried xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5..etc" but when I try xmodmap -e "pointer = 1 2 3 4 2..etc" for instance, the difference being 2 is used twice I'll generate an error04:19
chespiritowhyami, no04:19
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whyamichespirito: can you paste the entire output of the make before it breaks?04:20
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whyamiinto the pastebin, that is?04:20
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snoopstechnel ah.. so I guess you need to keep trying different hd(number),(partition) until you find the windows one as well?04:20
chespiritosure04:20
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spadessnoops man xmodmap although im not 100% sure it will do mouse buttons with keysm, the syntax is in the man page04:20
BlueEaglekordo: now go to the Settings menu and click Archives04:20
whyamichespirito: do a make clean first04:20
BlueEaglehe left. Can you all believe it?!??! He LEFT! :(04:20
barongascan anyone help me with getting cdemu or anything comparable that'll help me mount iso's bins etc?04:21
chespiritowow,big output,what does make clean mean?04:21
vem0mTHANK GOD!04:21
naliothBlueEagle: you can't smell the mutton?04:21
snoopsspades oh umm the man is very small (I've read it) and it doesn't show any real examples for mice, except about just mapping different keys to different functions, eg replace this button with this one.. not using two buttons for the same thing04:21
ssuehrchespirito, make clean removes artifacts from a previous compile.04:21
naliothchespirito: "make clean" puts the source directory back to the way it was when it was first extracted04:22
whyamichespirito: make always tries to start where it last left off. when you run make clean, it cleans up all the unfinished business and flags itself to start from scratch next time.04:22
Bryan_3hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot04:22
snoopsbut I'll have another look spades thanks04:22
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spadessnoops im not 100% sure on it but its worth a look04:22
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chespiritohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1713604:23
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dribbledoes rhythmbox crapout/unkillably freeze on anybody else?04:23
chespiritothere you go,"make" after i "make clean"ed :P04:23
AresSo far, no.04:23
AresRhytmbox is working fine for what I'm playing.04:23
Ares=)04:23
technelsnoops, Well the Disks thing in Ubuntu says that it is Partition 1 -- I know it is on hd1 because it is on the same hard drive as Ubuntu...so why doesn't (hd1,0) work? I did try a few others, they didn't help04:23
juztinwhat command would i use to mount /dev/hdb to /storage if hdb is fat32?04:23
arapehlI need some serious CDROM/CDRW mounting help from someone who really knows their stuff.... PLEASE!!!04:23
techneldribble, I just started using it as well, haven't had any problems04:23
spadessnoops maybe see if imwheel can do that04:24
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dribbletechnel, harumph.  it's been givin' me tons of grief04:24
AresYou sure you have the codecs and stuff?04:24
farkywhere can i find the debian package for ndiswrapper?04:24
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skavengendiswrapper is in the repos04:24
skavengewhy do you need the .deb04:24
farkyto put it on a computer without internet04:24
Dr_Willissnoops,  i  just followed that gentoo wiki.. lets see if it worked.. :P brb04:25
naliothfarky: packages.ubuntu.com04:25
skavengendiswrapper is on the cd04:25
Hobbseefarky: it's on the ubuntu cd04:25
farkythanks04:25
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arapehlAnyone?04:25
farkyHobbsee: it is?04:25
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barongasI'm going to need my kernel source package, anyone know what repository I need?  I can't find 2.6.15-25-386...04:25
skavengeyes it is04:25
Hobbseefarky: yep04:25
ardchoillearapehl: cd's should mount automatically.. mine do04:25
chespiritoand is there anything similar to cinelerra for ubuntu?04:25
skavenge'ndis-utils'04:25
arapehlardchoille: heh, I wish mine did.04:25
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dadcould someone help me with wine?04:26
chespiritoor anything similar to adobe after effects,or combustion,actually,the softwares i used on winblows04:26
farkyHobbsee: thank you04:26
juztinchespirito, i got cinelerra to run with ubuntu04:26
Bryan_3hey everyone, need some help on this one, i am trying to start mozilla-thunderbird, an i am getting an error message that says that thunderbird is already running, but it is not, at least it is not in my process list, and i have already tried to reboot04:27
whyamichespirito: I dunno...I'm still thinkin'04:27
whyamichespirito: are you on dapper or breezy?04:27
bimberibarongas: linux-source is the package04:27
ardchoillearapehl: the settings to auto-mount a cd are in System -> Preferrences -> Preferred Applications04:27
chespiritodapper04:27
naliothBryan_3: killall mozilla-thunderbird04:27
chespiritojuztin, how? :P04:27
barongasbimberi thanks04:27
snoopsspades I had a look at imwheel - seemed really crappy! but this seems kind of right.. using keysym, and xev to find out the button keycode of the mouse then writing a rule to remap it04:28
ardchoillearapehl: the first tab04:28
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bimberibarongas: np :)04:28
juztinchespirito, it was on another install that is now gone...but if i remember correctly, i downloaded it from the website and installed it :P04:28
barongasbimberi, was looking for the right numbers... too easy :)04:28
XVampireXgstreamer-properties-Message: Error running pipeline 'ALSA - Advanced Linux Sound Architecture': Could not open resource for reading. [gstalsasrc.c(526): gst_alsasrc_open (): /pipeline0/alsasrc1:04:28
XVampireXRecording open error: Invalid argument] 04:28
juztinchespirito, however, it ran a little slow due to my lack of necessary ram (i only have 256)04:28
SixtyWattI am freaking beyond impressed with Ubuntu. This is my first day using it.04:28
XVampireXPlease help04:28
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ardchoillearapehl: sorry, it's in Removeable Drives and Media04:28
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akarimcowheee, howdy04:29
chespiritojuztin, the problem is that i can't compile it04:29
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akarimcoi just posted this question to the forums, but I thought someone might be able to lend a hand in here04:29
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Bryan_3nalioth: see that is just the thing, there are no process to kill04:29
akarimcomy laptop is trying to burn my lap ever since I switched to Ubuntu04:29
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juztinchespirito, why not?04:29
chespiritoi do ./configure,and it all goes fine,than on make,i receive a message error about "i686/soundtest.o"04:29
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naliothBryan_3: then some of your mozilla-thunderbird files may be mis permissioned or something04:30
arapehlardchoille: All the mount checkboxes are checked... which means there's aproblem somewhere and the drives don't mount automatically ... hence the reason why they won't mount manually either. I need to figure out what's wrong and fix it first :(04:30
juztinchespirito, might wanna take that to the cinelerra forums...i bet they could help04:30
_groutim trying to mount a volume but it keeps asking me to specify the file system04:30
Bryan_3nalioth: so is there some simple way to deal with it?04:30
juztinchespirito, it looks like a pretty decent video editor, except for the horrible icons they use for their effects :P04:30
ardchoillearapehl: ahh, nice job of tracking that down on your part :)04:31
Bryan_3i try to reinstall from the repos04:31
juztinchespirito, they look like they were drawn by a 12 year old with MS Paint04:31
dadI installed wine from the add/remove programs thing, but its not showing up in the applications>office menu.  can anyone help?04:31
chespiritojuztin, well,if i wanted nice icons,i'd be on winblows :P04:31
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barongas_grout,  mount -t filesystem file04:31
whyamichespirito: there is an unofficial .deb binary for cinelerra, at least for breezy. You could look around and see if they have one for dapper yet...04:31
juztinchespirito, lol, gotcha :D04:31
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chespiritowhyami, gonna look for it,thanks04:31
akarimco:/04:31
juztinchespirito, that's how i did it, what whyami just said04:31
naliothBryan_3: not sitting in front of your box, i'd not know04:31
arapehlardchoille: I haven't done too much on my own actually... ToHellWithGA has been helping me.04:31
Toma-cinelerra is being considered for edgy, iirc at motu04:31
Bryan_3:)04:31
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bimberidad: it's not an application per se.  you use it to run win32 apps, for example using the command 'wine freecell.exe'04:32
naliothBryan_3: you might try irc.mozilla.org  #thunderbird04:32
dadokay thanks04:32
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whyamichespirito: I just found it.04:32
ToHellWithGAardchoille: he's having trouble mounting the drives period04:32
Matrikzcan anyone tell he how i can properly compile gaim beta 3 on ubuntu?04:32
bimberidad: by the way you configure it with the 'winecfg' command04:32
bimberi!winer04:32
ubotuI know nothing about winer04:32
bimberi!wine04:32
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:32
chespiritowhyami, really?all i found was some packages for debian04:32
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technelsnoops, So, yeah, when I pick the correct partition Ubuntu says the partition type was unknown or something and then there are a bunch of messed up characters, like smilies and other symbols04:32
dadokay thanks04:32
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snoopstechnel err which partition?04:33
technelsnoops, the windows one04:33
ardchoilleToHellWithGA: ahh, ok04:33
akarimcoI guess I can wait for a reply to my forum post... thanks04:33
whyamichespirito: http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/. You need to edit you /apt/sources list and add deb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./ as well as deb-src http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./04:33
AresSorry =?04:33
BlueEaglematrikz: As a general rule of thumb: If you do not know how to compile a piece of software you ought to be using the pre-compiled and packaged (ie. non-beta) software provided in the repositories. As for building from source build_essential is required.04:33
BlueEagle!build_essential04:33
ubotuI know nothing about build_essential04:33
BlueEagle!build_essentials04:33
ubotuI know nothing about build_essentials04:33
BlueEaglehmm04:34
ToHellWithGA!info build-essential04:34
chespiritohold on whyami.04:34
ubotubuild-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In repository main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB04:34
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BlueEaglethankyou tohellwithga04:34
whyamichespirito: then you do an apt-get update then finally apt-get install cinelerra04:34
ToHellWithGABlueEagle: it's a dash, not an underline04:34
Matrikzwell Ubuntu is the only distro that i haven't been able to get gaim 2.0 beta 3 to compile on04:34
ToHellWithGAcheers04:34
Matrikzwhich is why i asked04:34
chespiritocan you please give me an example with one of the files?04:34
dadwow, that wine thing is amazing04:34
chespiritoi should do...04:34
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chespiritodeb /http://lprod.org/deb/dapper ./04:34
chespiritoand then deb-src...?04:34
whyamichespirito: have you edited /etc/apt/sources.list before?04:34
technelsnoops, Any ideas?04:35
arapehlardchoille: do you have any experience troubleshooting cdrom/rw mounting?04:35
chespiritoyes04:35
ardchoillearapehl: no, sorry, they've always just wokred for me.04:35
whyamichespirito: okay then just add 2 lines. The first is: "deb http://lprod.org/deb/dapper/ ./" (without the quotes)04:35
newbuntuCan anyone here please help me, im trying to convert downloaded avi movies to vcd or dvd, basically so I can watch them on my DVD player & TV ... I'm trying without luck to find a single application that can do the conversion.04:35
arapehlcrap04:36
whyaminewbuntu: use tovid and tovidgui04:36
arapehlardchoille: okay, well thanks anyway :)04:36
juztinwhat's that really good partitioning program that starts with a 'g' ?  :P04:36
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whyamijuztin: gparted04:36
Toma-newbuntu: qdvdauthor will work04:36
juztinwhyami, thats it, thanks :)04:36
newbuntuwhyami thanks i'll try that04:36
arapehlanyone? out of the 721 ppl here, SOMEONE MUST know how to troubleshoot CDR and CDRW mounting! PLEASE!04:36
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winnerhey04:36
BlueEagleWhy does aptitude hold libcairo2 back. It sais 1.1.10-0ubuntu1 is installed and that it is holding back the "upgrade" 1.0.4-0ubuntu1 (dapper).It sais it's because of libfreetype6 or something.04:36
Toma-newbuntu: basically, converting to avi to dvd requires you to "Author" a dvd. you can googling "dvd authoring ubuntu" if you want, but qdvdauthor will be the best bet04:37
winneri'm trying to install ubuntu, but during the partition process i get stuck with "resize operation failure"04:37
winnerwhat should i do?04:37
chespiritowhyami, i'm downloading cinelerra04:37
AresHmm, what are you trying to resize?04:37
chespiritothank you very very much,wow!04:37
AresThat was at winner.04:37
leftyhey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do04:37
winnerAres: i'm trying to resize one of my hard drive partitions to make room for an installation04:38
newbuntutoma- thanks im going there now04:38
whyaminewbuntu, Toma-: I have to disagree. qdvdauthor does a nice job but it is hard to use and buggy. tovidgui is fast, quick, painless and...doesn't give you as much control with menus and such.04:38
ardchoillearapehl: does the cd drive appear in the hardware browser?04:38
AresWinner: Whats currently on it?04:38
winnerAres: my windows xp partition lol04:38
arapehlardchoille: yep... just doesn't mount04:38
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Toma-whyami: ok then. i use it flawlessly to create multi-movie dvds04:38
ardchoillearapehl: tried mounting as root?04:38
Atomic_UEIs there a simple way of downloading software/updates using one ubuntu machine, then slipstreaming those updates to other ubuntu machines on the network? or getting them to retrieve them from the first machine?04:39
whyamiToma-: okay. Sorry. I guess you mileage is different than mine. :-)04:39
arapehlardchoille: yeah, all it does is comes back to the prompt... no errors nothing!04:39
Atomic_UEThis way you're not constantly downloading the same thing04:39
AresWinner: So, do you only have one hard drive?04:39
arapehlardchoille: where's a log file I can check?04:39
winnerAres: no i have two04:39
ardchoillearapehl: /var/log/messages04:39
AresWinner: The one you are trying to resize, is it all used space?04:39
winnerAres: no theres quite some free space04:39
Toma-whyami: newbuntu, if its simple and all you need, then use it. for a full featured authoring system (probably not needed) use qdvdauthor04:40
arapehlardchoille: thanks, checking now04:40
leftyhey i downloaded the ubuntu iso(PPC) and its 702mb which i can't write to cd. Why is this? anyone know what i can do?04:40
AresWinner: Damn, and you defraged the disk before firing up cfdisk or gparted?04:40
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whyamichespirito: you are doing this with an apt-get install?04:40
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chespiritowhyami: yes04:41
winnerAres: no. damn. is that going to be a problem? should i go back to windows and defrag?04:41
winnerAres: or, actually, is there a way to defrag while in the installation state?04:41
whyamichespirito: let us know...04:41
AresWinner: I hear it always helps, either then that I really don't know =P [No way to defrag in installation state that I know of :(] 04:41
arapehlardchoille / ToHellWithGA: "Jul  3 22:31:46 desktop kernel: [55884.692313]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!"04:41
ardchoillearapehl: blank disc?04:41
wheelswitchhow do i open programs up into another workspace from the command line?04:41
wheelswitchis there an argument?04:41
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winnerahh alright. im going to go see if it'd be better after i defrag it. thanks Ares :)04:42
arapehlardchoille: last I tried it was a commercial CD (Norton Anti-Virus in my CDRW and ATI Radeon Drivers in my CDR)04:42
AresWinner: No problem, but I'm not really smart with Linux :O04:42
cjonesdoes anybody in hear know wine very well04:42
ardchoillearapehl: wow04:42
technelsnoops, This is the error I am getting: filesystem type unknown partition type 0x7 from http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml (GRUB error 17)04:42
wheelswitchcjones:  what do you want to know?04:42
ToHellWithGAardchoille: i figured if he tried commercially pressed data discs they should recognize easiest04:42
cjoneswell i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arabic04:43
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juztini am trying to mount a hard disk to /storage .... when i try, i get this message : "mount: /dev/hdb already mounted or /storage busy" ...  it isn't mounted....what do i do to make /storage not busy?04:43
ardchoilleToHellWithGA: yeah, that's what I'd have done too. I think the drive itself has a problem reading.04:43
BlueEagletechnel: 0x7 is HPFS/NTFS file system.04:44
ToHellWithGAardchoille: he said the drives worked under windoze, so there must be something deeper04:44
cjoneswheelswitch i am installing a game and as it loads the files the file names are in arbic04:44
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ardchoilleToHellWithGA: Really? ok, yeah, something's amiss04:44
technelBlueEagle, Yeah, I am trying to boot into Windows. But I am getting that error04:44
chespiritowhyami, it's running!04:44
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wheelswitchcjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.04:45
chespiritoI don't know whether it is good or not,but that's another thing :P04:45
BlueEagletechnel: I see. Could you put your menu.lst on ubuntu.pastebin.com?04:45
BlueEagleor !pastebin04:45
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technelBlueEagle, Absolutely, one second04:45
whyamichespirito: excellent! Have fun with it. I found it a bit buggy but worth putting up with. It's pretty powerful. I haven't used 2.1...04:45
ToHellWithGA\begin{CarTalk}technel: i think i've found your problem.  you're trying to boot into windows\end{CarTalk}04:45
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winneris there a list of what wine is capable of running?04:46
Pr0nmy friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...?04:46
wheelswitchhow do i open a program in another workspace from the command line, is there an argument?04:46
ToHellWithGAwinner: winehq.com04:46
Dr_Williswinner,  check the wine homepage..  i doubt if theres a definitive list04:46
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chespiritowhyami, you should receive a Noob Savior award or something.04:46
ToHellWithGAthere is a good list called AppDB04:46
purserjquick question, who would I need to speak to about finding out if the realplayer package in multiverse is "official" as in Real Media has approved it?04:46
GrubChubhi there, when I run apt I sometimes get some dependancy errors, can these dependancies usually be installed through apt?04:46
whyamichespirito: thanks. I got SO MUCH help here when I was starting out...04:47
arapehlI'm getting the following errors with my CDR/CDRW drives ... http://pastebin.ca/78444 ... can anyone help?04:47
technelToHellWithGA, I had Microsoft as much as the next guy, but still some things for work and games aren't available on Linux04:47
technel!pastebin04:47
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:47
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chespiritowhyami, i received a lot of help here in my first weeks,now I'm using it a little less for problem solving04:48
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technelBlueEagle, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1713704:48
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cjoneswheelswitch are you there?04:48
siriusnovai need help recompiling wpa supplicant for my patched madwifi drivers, can anyone help?04:48
ToHellWithGAtechnel: yeah man.  i feel you on that.  i can't run Sony's jukebox software to transfer to my minidisc now :/04:48
siriusnovaplease04:48
siriusnova:(04:48
wheelswitchcjones:  yeah04:48
GrubChubThe following packages have unmet dependencies:04:48
GrubChub  linux-image-2.6.12-9-386: Depends: initramfs-tools (>= 0.17) but it is not going to be installed04:48
Dr_WillisGames are for the Weak.04:48
Dr_Willis:)04:48
Pr0nmy friend has a ubuntu box at his house and i can ssh into it, where can i find a guide to installing vnc through ssh...??04:48
barongasI'm trying to figure out why I don't have a /lib/modules/2.6.15-25-386/build folder... I installed linux-source.. do I need to dpkg it or something? can't remember how to do these things...04:48
whyamichespirito: now if only there where I channel like this so I could figure out how to fix my car...04:48
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abstractismDr_Willis: ya rly04:48
Dr_WillisPr0n,  sudo apt-get install vncserver04:48
BlueEagletechnel: sata, scsi or ide disks?04:48
chespiritowhyami, hahahahaha.04:49
deshantmhi, any recommendations on digital camera software?04:49
ToHellWithGADr_Willis: winmine.exe runs great under WINE.  it's the best computer game ever anyway so i don't need windows to play games04:49
Pr0ndo i need root access or not?04:49
cjoneswheelswitch i am installing a game and the words are in arabic can i show you a screenshot04:49
technelBlueEagle, Both partitions are located on my SATA drive -- I have an IDE drive as well, but it is just storage04:49
Dr_WillisPr0n,  to install somthing - of course.04:49
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ToHellWithGAdeshantm: you'll have to be more specific04:49
ToHellWithGAphoto editing?04:49
chespiritowhyami, real life should have things like irc or google.04:49
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whyamideshantm: I know this is lame but I use picasa under wine...04:49
chespiritoas a very funny quote on bash.org says,i need to find my socs :P04:49
wheelswitch<wheelswitch> cjones:  not somthing ive seen before, sorry.04:49
Dr_WillisPr0n,  or you could use the Xming stuff under windows to have remote X apps show up on your windows box.04:49
Gareth1Pr0n, yes you would (sudo means to run something as root, it will prompt you for the root password)04:49
chespiritosocks*04:49
deshantmi just acquired a Kodak DC340004:49
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ToHellWithGAlol @ acquired.  5 finger discount, deshantm ?04:50
cjonesthanks anyway04:50
deshantmjust want to be able to use the format functionality04:50
AresWhen you type in your root password as "sudo" in Terminal, is it suppose to come up with * or absolutely nothing?04:50
deshantma gift04:50
ToHellWithGAAres: nothing i think04:50
hareemdoes any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment04:50
BlueEagletechnel: I see. Well it has been my experience with the SIS sata chip that grub is unable to see the difference between (hd0) and (hd1) between the 1st, 2nd and 3rd stage.04:50
deshantmfrom a friend who got a new one04:50
Gareth1Ares, nothing - it doesn't echo what you're typing04:50
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GrubChubanyone have any suggestions for resolving depandancy issues? can they usually be installed through apt? or do you usually have to hunt for them?04:50
BlueEagletechnel: That might be what causes your alement. Are you booting from your IDE drive or your SATA drive?04:50
BlueEagletechnel: (ie which mbr is read)04:50
whyamideshantm: after picasa...I suppose you could use GQview. I don't think any of them are great...04:50
deshantmubuntu did fine with getting the pics off it... thats not a problem04:50
AresAnyway to echo what I'm typing, or a way to echo that I am infact typing, I always mess up. :(04:50
Dr_Willishareem,  ya may want to clarify that statement as to what you are tryign to do.04:50
whyamideshantm: so what do you want?04:51
skeenI just tried to install Ubuntu but it froze at the last moment. I noticed that the harddrive had heated so much that I couldn't touch it for anymore than a second. Is this the likely cause? Do I need a new fan?04:51
hareemwell sir i am trying to setup a ubuntu or kubuntu cyber cafe04:51
nick_grubchub, I usually use the X front end... Adept to solve these issues04:51
Gareth1Ares, I don't believe so unfortuantely - it's coded into the sudo program I think04:51
deshantmwhich app would you think could support "format"04:51
Dr_Willisskeen,  fans are always good.04:51
BlueEagleskeen: How much RAM is on your box?04:51
deshantmi.e. delete pictures04:51
skeen512MB04:51
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technelBlueEagle, Booting from SATA drive. I had a HUGE issue with installing GRUB with that second hard drive (it was like 4 or 5 pages of forum posts on ubuntuforums.org), but I ended up just unplugging it and installing GRUB. It worked great, but then I went into my BIOS and did the "Switch to Default Options & Save", and then somehow this stuff got messed up.04:52
AresGarth1: Just sudo, or every box? It seems to mimic that behavior in Slackware.04:52
GrubChubthanks nick :)04:52
whyamideshantm: the programs I named will work. Also EOG (eye of gnome) is built into gnome and you could just use nautilus to look at the thumbnails and delete etc. is this what you want?04:52
BlueEagleskeen: Well then you shouldn't be swapped to death. But a fan for a single harddrive is usually not required unless you've insulated it or covered the breathing hole(s).04:52
ToHellWithGAskeen: can you move the hard drive away from other hot parts of your PC?04:52
ToHellWithGAi put my primary hard drive as low and far from other warm stuff as possible04:53
hareemcan ubuntu be setup so that the users sessions expires after a certain time04:53
BlueEagletechnel: Check that your sata boot rom is enabled in the bios.04:53
deshantmwhyami, thanks i will look into those04:53
Gareth1Ares, it's the same for every distribution that uses GNU code (which sudo is a part of)04:53
BlueEagletechnel: I think it should be but it doesn't hurt to check.04:53
skeenIm not really referring to a harddrive fan...but the general fan in the box, whatever thats called.04:53
nick_grubchub if you want, you could quickly see what that package depends on by typing apt-cache depends {insert package name} | less04:53
AresGareth1: [Damn]  Thanks though.04:53
BlueEagletechnel: it might be labled as "raid boot rom" or "raid rom" in the BIOS.04:53
Gareth1Ares: yeah, it's a pain - bit confusing for a first time user04:54
skeenWhen I put my hands in front of it...I can hardly feel anything. Its pretty much useless. Is overheating associated with freezing?04:54
Gareth1Ares, you could use gksudo come to think of it04:54
nick_grubchub, but adept does this also by going into detail on the package your trying to install04:54
Jack_SparrowIt can be04:54
SixtyWattI cannot get wmv videos to play in firefox. I have tried everything listed in the guide.04:54
AresGareth1: Explain? I just started using Ubuntu today.04:54
skeenJack_Sparrow...I saw Johnny Depp today. :)04:54
siriusnovacan anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant ?04:54
SixtyWattI even installed mplayer plugin which worked on my other desktop04:54
technelBlueEagle, This is a HP computer, they have a really different BIOS than I am used to. Would it be under like when you go to Disk Management, select a disk, and it shows the options for it?04:54
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Gareth1Ares, try running "gksudo synaptic" - you should get a fancy GUI prompt window for the password (which will echo * when you type)04:55
grteAres: gksudo is like sudo, except that instead of having to type it into a terminal, a graphical prompt will pop up and ask you to enter your password.04:55
BlueEagletechnel: Either that or somwhere around integrated peripherals.04:55
Gareth1hm I wonder04:55
Gareth1!gksudo04:55
ubotuIf you need to run graphical applications as root, use gksudo, as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Avoid ever using sudo {guiapp}04:55
Pr0nive forgotten my root password, but i can login on my normal account, how can i get my root passwrd?04:55
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skeenlol @ Pr0n...04:56
spadesPr0n sudo passwd and set a new one04:56
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grteHe can't.04:56
guesthellow channel04:56
Jack_SparrowPron there is no Root password... Use Sudo04:56
grteHe can't login to his normal account.04:56
BlueEagleHello guest.04:56
hareemdoes any one know how to setup ubuntu to work in an internet cafe enviroment04:56
technelBlueEagle, Alright, I will look for it04:56
BlueEagletechnel: Good luck04:56
AresGareth1: Oh wow, pretty, to bad I hate the choppy fade :(04:56
spadesgrte reread that, he can login, unless he typo'd04:56
grteAh.04:56
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Jack_Sparrowhareem:  Any specifics on what you need04:57
Gareth1Ares, glad to hear it worked for you - about the choppiness, are you using an older machine? or perhaps you are using the incorrect video drivers04:57
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siriusnovacan anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers ? the wpa options dont exist in Network Manager anymore so i am assuming i need to recompile wpa supplicant04:57
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AresGareth1: I'm using a Nvidia GeForce4 with 512mb ram and the driver I got was from the "Easy Ubuntu" script.04:57
guestlooking advice  ...  thinking of installing a lamp server  is there a package that is  1 good package for admining all  ?04:57
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jon_As "root" how do I access my "home/username" folder in the terminal04:58
spadescd /home/username04:58
hareemwell jack i want to setup a ubuntu cyber cafe. So that my clients come in get a ticket  and use any ubuntu machine for the time on their ticket04:58
gumpishcd ~username04:58
grtecd ~04:58
grtecd ~username, yeah.04:58
AresWhat does cd stand for again?04:58
gumpishchange dir04:58
skavengechange directory04:58
guestchange dir ??????04:58
spadesguest you can use webmin as a portal but im not sure if its pretty04:58
AresDer, thanks.04:58
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BlueEaglespades: webmin is no longer in the repositories afaik.04:59
jon_"cd~username" worked, thx for helping me out, I'm a noob04:59
skavenge!webmin04:59
Gareth1heh Ares we were all new once04:59
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ubotuwebmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.04:59
spadesBlueEagle he can compile it :)04:59
grteAres: Check out linuxcommand.org04:59
AresIts not that I don't know some commands, I know them, its that my memory is absolutely horrible.04:59
guestah looking something  i can install on to the  box and run from it04:59
hareemany help04:59
BlueEaglespades: He can, but it is depreciated. (I still use it to set up shorewall tho=04:59
livinghi, i have two mouse installed here (a PS2 and a USB) but only one of them is enabled when I boot. and what's worse is that I cannot choose which one to enable (it looks random). is there any way i can choose which one to use (without unplugging them) or, even better, use both?04:59
grteAh.04:59
BlueEagle)04:59
Gareth1I can never remember uname when I need it04:59
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gumpishliving: just for kicks, why do you need both?05:00
NickGarvey"uname -r" is kernel05:00
NickGarveyuname -a is everything05:00
NickGarveythats all you really need05:00
BlueEagleliving: what gumpish asked05:00
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ToHellWithGAgumpish: akimbo mousing pwns05:00
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Gareth1yeah, I know - I just forget the command NickGarvey05:00
gumpishlol05:00
AresI only need three commands, sudo, gedit, and ls. Moving in terminal makes me feel tired :O [Perhaps I'm lazy?] 05:00
sjhillomg05:00
NickGarveyGareth1: ah ;)05:00
uboyodid anyone notice that dapper's xorg is choppy?05:00
livingBlueEagle, gumpish: i am used to the trackball mouse while my mom is used to the "typical" mouse05:00
grteLazy?05:00
uboyomouse movement stutters05:00
grteGUI is good for moving files from one folder to the other.05:01
gumpishliving: the trackball is PS/2?05:01
sjhillis there a channel specific to ubuntu and wireless adapters?05:01
grteFor everything else, terminal is the lazy way.05:01
grteIt just takes learning.05:01
hareemcan ubuntu be used in an internet cafe enviroment05:01
livinggumpish: yes05:01
Jack_Sparrowhareem:  WHat software would thry use if youwere running windows?05:01
Jack_SparrowJust trying to see the features you are after05:01
guest!lamp server05:01
ubotuI know nothing about lamp server05:01
hyphenatedliving: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ ?05:01
NickGarvey!lamp > guest05:01
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hareemwell quite simply i would use windwos 2003 server and xp as client05:02
Gareth1!women05:02
ubotuThe women and men of the Ubuntu women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux? Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ for some suggestions compiled by women who use Linux on how to do so effectively.05:02
Gareth1damn, was hoping for something else there05:02
BlueEaglehareem: I do not know of a package in the repository that will do what you are asking. You will need to search the internet. However Ununtu is just as suitable for installing those packages, however support on those packages is done by the provider (unless anyone here has got any experience with them)05:02
hareemdomain controller would do this job. But windows means that i have to cough up $4500 to Microsoft05:02
NickGarveyI have read that women howto thing05:02
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barongasanyone know where the kernel source directory ends up after download linux-source?05:02
Jack_Sparrowhareem: How you manage the amount of time05:02
livinghyphenated: sure.  done -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1713805:02
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guestsamba not be set up as a domain controler ?05:03
hareemwell i can just remote log off the user05:03
hareemi really dont need to time stamp them05:03
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hareemin windows atleast05:03
livinghyphenated: right now, the USB mouse is working. sometimes it is the PS2 that works05:03
gumpishOk, is there a package that monitors the status of a host and mails you when it stops responding to ping?05:03
Gareth1hareem, that'd be quite difficult with anywhere more than 10 stations05:04
hareemwell how would i do it with 10 stations Gareth105:04
BlueEaglehareem: Have you installed ubuntu yet? I see there is a package named "pessulus" that might be what you're after.05:04
AresHey, can anyone time check Texas? I think my BIOS messed up Ubuntu's time. [Again] 05:04
siriusnovacan anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support my patched madwifi drivers so i can use wpa via Network Manager?05:04
abstractismits 10:04 here05:04
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AresOk, thanks.05:04
GaiaX11hareem, I think you need to set up cron05:04
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abstractismwelcome, at least I can help a little bit here05:05
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AresAbstractism: Haha, don't worry, I'm sure you help out tons =)05:05
hyphenatedliving: yeah, that's the "Configured Mouse" section of it. if you had a section for the PS/2 mouse, and it was listed in the "ServerLayout" section, then they'd both work together.05:05
hareembut how would i be able to contoll the stations05:05
technelSorry, who was helping me again?05:05
AresTechnel: wait a second, I'll look =P05:05
livinghyphenated: but wouldn't that section get cleared on next reboot? i mean, it looks like ubuntu reworks the xorg.conf file on every boot, doesn't it?05:06
abstractismAres: nah, I just got here today and couldn't find anyone to help me get my mac formatted CD-ROMs working05:06
BlueEagle!info pessulus05:06
ubotupessulus: lockdown editor for GNOME. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.2-0ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 52 kB, installed size 728 kB05:06
AresTechnel: BlueEagle was helping for a bit... and maybe someoen else to.05:06
GaiaX11GaiaX11, hareem I think from the server.05:06
technelAres, Ah, yes, that's right. hyphenated started, then snoops, and now BlueEagle05:06
hyphenatedliving: what does ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf say?05:06
sjhillhmm, no help for wireless here i guess05:06
technelBlueEagle, I was not able to find that in the BIOS =\05:06
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AresTechnel: What was your problem again? Unable to find the Windows partition?05:07
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hyphenatedtechnel: google for details about HP bios and how to configure LBA mode for your disk in it. it should be there somewhere05:07
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livinghyphenated: heh. looks like it doesn't rework it ;)05:07
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hareemso i can use a normal ubuntu desktop to act as server right05:07
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BlueEaglehareem: msg05:07
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technelAres, At this point I am 99% sure it is on (hd1,0), but it gives the error that the partition couldn't be read or something -- 0x705:08
sjhillnot much better than debian05:08
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nedss_hey all...05:08
goethehow do i check which services are currently running on my machine??05:08
technelI have a picture of the error, one second05:08
hareemok i have that installed but i would have to manually make lock down changes on all pc;s05:08
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BlueEagletechnel: Ok. You could attempt to install grub to your ide disc and boot from that perhaps?05:08
hyphenatedliving: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17139 <-- my touchpad (basically a PS/2 mouse using synaptics driver instead of whatever it is) and a USB mouse play together fine05:08
BlueEagletechnel: Not sure if that will work at all tho.05:08
nedss_trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?05:08
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dibblegohow do I generate an ISO from a Ubuntu CD? I have the CD but it is scratched up05:08
GaiaX11hareem, there is a ubuntu cd server in distrowatch05:08
hareemis there any way i can centrally control my users05:08
BlueEagletechnel: just for kicks: try setting your windows root to (hd0,0)05:08
abstractismspeaking of which05:09
zcat[1] dibblego: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=ubuntu.iso05:09
hareemyeah but that cd is LAMP--- what would i be doing with apache installed05:09
nedss_trying to use vnc...and am getting a blank screen w/ an X whats wrong?05:09
dibblegogah, I knew that too, thanks05:09
BlueEagletechnel: it should not work for any logical reason but after all it's windows we're trying to boot. :)05:09
livinghyphenated: thankyou a lot :) i'll do some tests now and come back in a few minutes with the bad or good news05:09
GaiaX11hareem, go there download it and install it05:09
abstractismcan anyone help me get my mac formatted discs working?05:09
nedss_don't have physical access to the machine05:09
hyphenatedliving: you'll have to change the driver for the synaptics section. I can't remember what it should be changed to05:09
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nedss_but do have ssh access05:09
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AresTechnel: Please, come back it works, I really want to know if 0,0 does in fact work for no reason [aswell] :P05:09
BlueEagletechnel: other than that installing windows to the primary master IDE drive will in most cases cure your problem because that's where windows "wants to be"(tm) :)05:10
livinghyphenated: "PS/2" i guess. or "ImPS/2"05:10
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heimdall_Hi05:10
technelBlueEagle, Over the course of a month of asking in here and on ubuntuforums.org, it was determined that a bug in Ubuntu/GRUB does not work if your OS is on a SATA drive and you have an IDE drive installed05:10
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AresOh! You have a SATA and an IDE installed?05:10
hyphenatedliving: for Protocol, yes. but you also need Driver set correctly ;-)05:10
AresI could have told you that!05:11
technelAres, BlueEagle, Here is the weird error: http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/720/000019pt.jpg05:11
BlueEagleares: Thing is that I had a sata+ide setup and it didn't matter if I specified (hd0,0) or (hd1,0) it booted the same partition in every case.05:11
livinghyphenated: ah, heh. "mouse" should do i guess :P05:11
hareemi checked that ubuntu server has no central user control05:11
AresI know a fix to that bug.05:11
technelBlueEagle, Here is the thread I have been referring to if you are interested: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17990805:11
AresI think.05:11
hareemwho ever suggested this. You can check for your self to05:11
BlueEagletechnel: oh oh oh!05:11
AresTechnel: Switch to Lilo.05:11
hyphenatedor psmouse. I can't remember. give it a whirl.05:11
BlueEagletechnel: in your menu.lst change root (hd0,0) to rootnoverify (hd0,0)05:11
kramer_Does anybody know how to change the default web browser05:12
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BlueEagleor make it hd(1,0) since that was what you had. :)05:12
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heimdall_I got a problem after upgrading to dapper from breezy, my laptop is sleeping without warning05:12
BlueEagletechnel: in your menu.lst change root (hd1,0) to rootnoverify (hd1,0)05:12
Tonren'Sup #ubuntu.05:12
BlueEagletonren: the opposite of down. :)05:12
technelBlueEagle, Alright, doing it now05:12
abstractismhi tonren05:12
heimdall_as if the energy saver function was on, but no :/05:12
AresTonren: Hello.05:12
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TonrenBlueEagle: You will pay for your tomfoolery05:12
BlueEagletonren: I already do. :)05:13
Tonrenhahaha05:13
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TonrenHey, doe sanyone have any experience installing a 32bit chroot on 64bit arch?05:13
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BlueEagletonren: It's true. Each month I pay various operators a bribe so they won't kick me when I'm off topic like now. :p05:13
AresBlueEagle: How much?05:13
siriusnovaanyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant to support new madwifi drivers?05:13
TonrenBlueEagle: You do what you've gotta do.05:13
hareemby the way is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kububtu05:14
BlueEagleares: I pay "an undisclosed amount"(tm) to keep them happy. (hint: The currency is cookies)05:14
AresBlueEagle: What type? I must pay off a few people, and do they pay for postage? :O05:14
snoopsbinding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons anyway? I've been struggling with it for a couple days now05:14
abstractismfor dapper x64, are there any good voip apps other than ekiga and twinkle?05:14
kalosaurusrex!vfat05:14
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions05:14
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noiesmoany apt-get guru's here trying to work out what i need to remove to let apt-get install a package that has dependany problems05:15
snoopsfor which protocol abstractism?05:15
BlueEagleabstractism: skype runs on linux. Not sure if they've got x64 arch yet tho.05:15
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TonrenSo, no one's done a 32bit chroot?05:15
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livinghyphenated: ok, done! :) thankyou very much05:15
hareemguys is there a domain controller for ubuntu or kubuntu05:15
TonrenI knew I shouldn't have installed the freaking 64bit version.  But now I don't know what to do to properly install the other version.05:16
AresBlueEagle: Ok, I think an operator will kick me soon, so BlueEagle, anyway to help me change my menu.lst to boot Windows first and have Ubuntu selected etc? [Details will be explained] 05:16
heimdall_is anyone has an idea for my problem ,05:16
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Tonrenheimdall_: What's buggin' you?05:16
hyphenatedliving: working? sweet05:16
abstractismI checked skype.com earlier today and there's just i38605:16
IdleOne!skype05:17
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Skype To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto05:17
technelBlueEagle, It just showed the screen like before, no error, but it was just the screen with the funky characters at the bottom05:17
Tonrenabstractism: You're running 64 bit?  What do you do about Macromedia Flash?05:17
AresAbstractism: The joys of 64.05:17
technelBlueEagle, Maybe I just need to reinstall GRUB?05:17
Jack_SparrowAres: so edit your menu.lst05:17
AresJack_Sparrow: I'm to much of a weeny after screwing up all my other bootloaders.05:17
technelBlueEagle, What was thing you were telling me to change in the BIOS earlier?05:17
BlueEagletechnel: That might help.05:17
heimdall_Tonren : since I've upgraded to dapper, my laptop is sleeping without warning :/05:17
abstractismTonren: I havent got that running either05:18
Jack_SparrowAres: to make windows default it just as easy as movi it up to the top of the list05:18
BlueEagletechnel: The sata raid controller might need to be active or the sata boot rom. Everything named sata perhaps?05:18
Tonrenabstractism: It's driving me up the wall.  I'm tired of not being able to see stuff on Youtube!  I'm not sure if I want to scrap it and install 32bit, or install a 32bit chroot!05:18
BlueEagle:p05:18
Tonrenheimdall_: That's dreadful.  Is it SLEEPING or shutting down?  Can you "wake it up" again once it sleeps?05:18
BlueEaglehareem: A "domain controller" is a windows NT thing. What you probably want is a file and printer server isn't it?05:19
heimdall_yep I can wake it up05:19
Jack_SparrowAres: copy your grub/menu.lst to #Jack_Sparrow05:19
heimdall_Tonren : but I can't figure out why it is sleeping05:19
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Tonrenheimdall_: Hmm... you should snoop around Ubuntu resource sites, like the forums.  I'll bet you that someone else has had this problem.05:19
abstractismTonren: yeah its a pain, but I probably won't scrap it..I have a windows machine thats running 32bit xp pro, because they fail05:19
hareemwell is there any alternative domain contoller for linux. Or something similar to domain controller in ubunut or linux world05:19
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heimdall_Tonren : I did, I found nothing on the forum05:19
Jack_SparrowAres: To edit it go to term sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst05:20
BlueEaglehareem: ...unless you want to have windows machine logging on to your network that is. Then you'll need something like samba or something.05:20
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abstractismTonren: multiple computers for the win :)05:20
Tonrenabstractism: I have one too, it's sitting right next to my laptop at the moment.  But it's SUCH a hassle to get the URL from an IM window on one screen to the other, you know?05:20
abstractismyeah, it is05:20
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Tonrenabstractism: I actually have three computers within five feet of where I am this second, that I own.  Hehehe.05:20
halitusi have 4  :P05:20
spadesi have 50005:20
BlueEaglehareem: Linux can replicate any and all features of the nt domain controller afaik. However I cannot guarantee that you will find a GUI for setting up everything.05:21
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SurfnKid:D05:21
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abstractismTonren: I originally wanted a mac, windows, and linux machine, but finances and reality tell me that two computers is kinda enough.05:21
AresYeah, I just got booted.05:21
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siriusnovaanyone know how to recompile wpa supplicant :(05:21
hareemwell i am ok with a command line version as well05:21
Tonrenabstractism: Hehe, probably.05:21
hareemwhats the name of the linux domain controller blue eagle05:21
IdleOne!wpa05:21
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:22
SurfnKidabstractism maybe 3 computers, 1 for radio listenin 1 for business and 1 for games :P05:22
abstractismthey're both amd64 anyway05:22
BlueEaglehareem: samba and ldap should suffice for most implementations unless I am mistaking.05:22
abstractismeventually I'll get tired of PC gaming and install linux on that other one anyway05:22
BlueEaglehareem: The question is if using a samba network is "the right way"(tm) to go when you're on an all linux network.05:22
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halitusoh hey how can i find my ip adress in ubuntu  anything simmilar to ipconfig /all??05:23
hareemso samba is the controller or is samba a file print sharing system05:23
BlueEaglehareem: Still it would be nice to offer wireless (or even wired) access for people with laptops and windows and in such a case samba and ldap would be fitting.05:23
spadeshalitus ifconfig05:23
SurfnKidwhere can i get information on modifying the way packets are sent in and out05:23
hyphenatedhalitus: ifconfig05:23
abstractismSurfnKid: hehe, a gamer05:23
halitusthank you05:23
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SurfnKidyep05:23
daddoes anyone know of a program that could convert from avi to gif?  all i've been able to find has been for windows05:24
hareemso how can i offer wifi authentication05:24
BlueEaglehareem: samba can do many things like being the master file/printer browser and replicationg an nt domain controller.05:24
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hareemok thats great05:24
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hareemi will check up with some links to see how samba is setup. I have heard its a pain in the ***05:24
tichwhere would i find a list of ubuntu compatible (laser) printers?05:25
technelBlueEagle, How do I get it to re-generate the config file? I did "sudo grub-install /dev/sda1" but it didn't overwrite the file05:25
kalosaurusrextich: http://hplip.sourceforge.net is a good start :)05:25
Jack_Sparrowtich:  HP 1100 work great05:25
BlueEaglehareem: That is another issue. What springs to my mind is to have the router that accepts wifi keep track of each connection in some way.05:25
hareemso how can i setup wifi service for my cafe05:25
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BlueEagletechnel: I am guessing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure grub05:25
spadestich see whats on the cups compat list?05:25
alindemanI've just read over the Java wiki entry about installing the firefox plugin, but I cannot find a package named sun-java5-plugin ... am I missing something?05:25
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hareemok. so you know how to install chillispot on kubuntu05:26
daddoes anyone know of a good video editor for ubuntu?05:26
BlueEaglehareem: Don't know of any packages that does that but I cannot see any reason for there not being such a piece of software.05:26
spadestich http://www.cups.org/ppd.php05:26
BlueEagle!info chillispot05:26
ubotuPackage chillispot does not exist in dapper05:26
abstractismdad: you're not my dad!05:26
hareemaltight thanks for the help05:26
Travis|T60How do I install Ubuntu Dapper Drake without writting to the MBR? I have a laptop with a recovery partition and if I modify the mbr it will get screwed up so I just want to put the boot data on a /boot partition and I will put it in my other bootloader05:26
abstractismhehe05:26
dadyes i know, its my account name05:26
Jack_Sparrow!grub05:27
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:27
Jack_SparrowGrub floppies05:27
Jack_SparrowNo floppy... boots to windows05:27
Bot_Builderdad - sadly, it seems like vid editing, general manipulation is severely lacking in linux05:27
Jack_SparrowNo one even knows there is another OS05:27
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dadwell all i want to do is convert a clip from avi to gif05:27
tichthanks all!05:27
TonrenHey guys, how do you know when the new version of an app will hit the repositories?  I am aching for amaroK 1.4.1, but it seems like it hasn't hit the repos yet.05:27
Bot_Builderoh, well that you could probably do05:27
tonyyarussoTravis|T60: I think you can skip the Grub installation step...  I have one of those recovery partitions too, and installed Grub, then fixed the error so that it still works, so if you go that route, it is possible.05:27
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AresBot_Builder: I remember one vid editing software that was amazing, but lacked a community and documentation and was like blender3d in terms of easy to use.05:28
elknof1does anyone knows whats the meaning if difussion gate??  its in advanced prefferences of ethernet...05:28
dadwell I searched around and didn't find anything... but i'll try installing stuff and looking into the features05:28
snoopsyou could build it from source Tonren05:28
Tonrensnoops: I know, I know.  But I'm lazy!  Besides, I built 1.4.0 from source and it crashed all the freaking time.05:28
Bot_Builderares - huh, that's odd, if it was good i wonder why there wasn't a community05:29
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Bot_Builderseems to me like its a rather large gap in the wall of linux killer apps05:29
kitsuneofdoomOk, I have a Broadcom 505:29
AresBot_Builder: It was new, and you would be surprised at how many projects are out there without communities.05:29
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Travis|T60tonyyarusso I just need to make sure nothing touches the MBR because this laptop is a loaner so I can't screw it up05:29
abstractismeubey d00by whooooo05:29
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tonyyarussoTravis|T60: Loaner from who?05:29
Travis|T60lenovo05:29
Travis|T60t60 thinkpad05:29
kitsuneofdoomOk, I have a Broadcom 54g Wireless card. I've managed to find the windows driver. Now how the heck to I get a wireless internet connection?05:29
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kitsuneofdoomI'm using ndiswrapper05:30
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SurfnKidkitsuneofdoom breezy or Dapper05:30
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BlueEaglehareem: you might be able to install the .deb files directly. Download it and try to install them.05:30
BlueEaglehareem: You will also need a radius server and a webserver apperantly.05:30
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AresTravis: If worse comes to worse you could get a recovery console cd and type fdisk /mbr [or fdisk \mbr]  I can't remember which.05:30
hareemthis is for chillispot rite05:31
Jack_Sparrowfdisk /mbr is right05:31
kitsuneofdoomSurfnKid: Dapper. I should mention this in my intro...heh05:31
Travis|T60Ares that wouldn't work thought because the recovery partitions bootloader is in the mbr, but I guess I will take the risk05:31
SurfnKidoh05:31
snoopsTravis|T60 you can make a backup of the mbr and restore it later05:31
BlueEaglehareem: yes.05:31
Travis|T60snoops how would I do this?05:31
tonyyarussoTravis|T60: Why is Lenovo loaning you a laptop?  Anyway, mine's a T43.  I'm trying to remember what your options are for skipping grub installation...you might need to use the Alternate CD and try to bypass it.05:32
SurfnKidkitsuneofdoom should have picked it up i guess as eth1, last time i installed,  try ndiswrapper if not the other way05:32
hareemyeah. i am going through the free radius setup. Man this is complicated05:32
Jack_SparrowTravis|T60: There is the ultimate boot cd ... google it05:32
Fitzzhow do i paste in xterm? :p05:32
SurfnKid!bcmwl505:32
ubotuI know nothing about bcmwl505:32
BlueEaglehareem: http://www.chillispot.org/download/chillispot_1.0_ok_i386.deb would be the stable version afaik.05:32
SurfnKid!ndiswrapper05:32
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs05:32
snoopsTravis|T60 from terminal.. "dd if=/dev/thehddhere of=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1"05:32
BlueEaglehareem: notice that since these were buildt for debian they might not work on ubuntu but odds are that they will.05:32
Jack_SparrowTravis|T60: IT boots and has fdisk and many many other useful tools for partitioning and then some05:32
SurfnKidkitsuneofdoom try that05:32
kitsuneofdoomthanks05:32
Travis|T60tonyyarusso yeah I read about using the alternative cd, the laptop is being loaned for a review05:32
BlueEagletechnel: any luck?05:33
tonyyarussoTravis|T60: The only thing that you can't do with grub installed to the MBR is use the Access IBM button to get at that function; you can still make a fully functional Grub menu item to boot it.05:33
tonyyarussoTravis|T60: Oh, cool.05:33
Fitzz!xterm05:33
ubotuI know nothing about xterm05:33
Travis|T60snoops gotcha05:33
hareemcan i get freeradius of the repos05:33
AresJack_Sparrow: Does it have cfdisk? [Or was it sfdisk?] 05:33
SurfnKidis anyone in the houston area?05:33
BlueEagle!info freeradius05:33
ubotufreeradius: a high-performance and highly configurable RADIUS server. In repository universe, is optional. Version 1.1.0-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1343 kB, installed size 4252 kB05:33
Jack_Sparrowfree-fdisk05:33
BlueEaglehareem: yes05:33
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Travis|T60ok05:33
hareemi heard ubuntu is based on DEB. but maybe im wrong05:33
mooseman447hey05:33
Travis|T60well I'll play around05:33
Travis|T60later05:33
Jack_Sparrowhttp://www.ultimatebootcd.com/05:33
BlueEaglehareem: it is05:33
Areshareem: It's a fork.05:34
snoopsTravis|T60 that'll backup the boot info as well as partition table. If you want to ignore the partition table change bs=512 to bs=446.. and to restore it "dd if=/home/mbr.bak bs=512 count=1" (if it's the 512 one, other wise change bs to 446)05:34
hareemfork ?05:34
spadessplit from it05:34
spadeslike a fork in the road causing you to turn05:34
Bot_BuilderIt would be really nice if nautilus would ask you for the root password (using gtksudo or whatever it was), when you try to do illegal ops05:34
AresHareem: It was forked [split]  off of the Debian tree.05:34
tonyyarussoAres: Spoon!  Hehe.05:34
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snoopswhoops, that dd is totally out of whack05:35
hareemoh.. well in that case they should have kept some parent properties05:35
hareemoh well time will tell05:35
BlueEaglehareem: a fork in this term is when someone takes a base of something and continues to develop it in their own way regardless of what is done with the original software.05:35
hareemok05:35
Bot_Builderbranch is more of a cooperative thing05:35
BlueEaglehareem: it's one fo the blessings (or curses if you whish) of the open source world.05:35
Jack_Sparrowdd = dangerous in the wrong hands05:35
tonyyarussosnoops: I suggested a spec that the installation should allow for auto backup of the MBR (I think Suse has this).  Hopefully this will get simpler.05:35
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snoopstonyyarusso cool beans05:35
tonyyarussoAres: (See Mark Shuttleworth's personal page on the wiki)05:35
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HighHopesHello! I need help... Is it possible to change default text-mode from 80x25 to (e.g.) 132x50 characters? ...05:36
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AresTony: Is it another recursive antonym or whatever? Last time someone explained G.N.U. I went into a six month coma.05:36
Gareth1hah like WINE Ares?05:37
snoopsanyone have any idea how I can bind mouse buttons to mouse buttons?05:37
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AresGareth1: Don't be evil. DONT BE EVIL05:37
NickGarveywould patching your kernel be better than recompiling it?05:37
kalosaurusrexhareem: ubuntu is based on debian.  and uses deb packages.05:37
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tonyyarussoAres: Na, it's his response to "Is Ubuntu a fork of Debian?"  "Yes, no, it's a spoon, maybe" or something like that.05:37
BlueEaglenickgarvey: patching a kernel implies compiling it.05:37
AresTony: Lol, I get it =P05:37
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wweaselI'd like to make my Desktop folder in another location, as in not ~/Desktop. How would I do that?05:37
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NickGarveyBlueEagle: so whats the difference between getting the kernel source and the patch?05:37
hareemok05:38
hareemgood05:38
Gareth1NickGarvey, it's not patching in the windows sense, it's basically adding some modifications to the linux source before compiling05:38
Bot_Builderwweasel - have you tried a symbolic link?05:38
BlueEaglenickgarvey: 1st you get the kernel source then you get the patch then you merge the patch with the kernel source then you compile the pathced source.05:38
NickGarveyGareth1: ah.. so I can just compile a new one if I am lazy?05:38
SurfnKidquestion05:38
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BlueEagleanswer05:38
hareemlisten i used the repos to install ldap and freeradius05:38
Gareth1NickGarvey, yes05:38
SurfnKidhow can i compile my kernel to have APM support05:38
AresBot_Builder: Can you explain a sym link, I hear it, I hear its wonderful, I have no idea what or how to use it05:38
NickGarveyGareth1: ok, thank you05:38
hareemhow can i manage them05:38
SurfnKid:P05:38
wweaselBot_Builder: I just made one. It worked, but no icons appear on my desktop. If I go into my home folder and click the symbolic link it brings me to the right place. Perhaps I should restart X?05:39
NickGarveyAres: man ln05:39
AresNick: Roger.05:39
NickGarveyAres: actually, the man file isn't that good05:39
AresNick: Info better?05:39
Bot_Builderwweasel - yeah, restart nautilus or X05:39
wweaselalright05:40
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NickGarveyAres: a sym link acts like the file you link too, but unlike a hard link, when you delete the original file, a sym link won't work05:40
wweaselbtw, how do I exit a man page?05:40
NickGarveyAres: its a link to the reference, instead of a copy of the reference05:40
Jack_SparrowSymlink = Windows Shortcut05:40
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ardchoillewweasel: press the "q" key05:40
Fitzzwweasel, "q"05:40
Bot_BuilderAres - yeah, i used one the first time today - its like a windows shortcut but kicks more ass05:40
AresNick: So its basically every single href link?05:40
wweaselbrilliant. Bot_Builder: brb, restarting x05:40
Gareth1heh Ares if you want something really bad, check out the HURD acronym meaning http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Hurd05:40
AresNick: like*05:40
NickGarveyAres: um.. yes pretty much05:40
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AresNick: Sorry, I'm very crude.05:41
Bot_BuilderAres - the difference is that to a program on linux the file is actually whatever it points at05:41
FatchaMaCallitzsorry guys.. can I ask a quick question?05:41
BlueEagleares: a symlink (symbolic link) is a "shortcut" to another file somewhere else in the filesystem. It is used by issuing the ln command to create the symlink.05:41
chariscompHello, I am having a problem when attempting to install xubuntu. I am using the alternate install CD. When I get to the section of the installation that deals with partitioning, I am attempting to use the software RAID and setup RAID 1 mirrors of all partitions. However, once I have created my partitions and marked them as physical volume for RAID and choose Setup RAID, the setup seems to...05:41
chariscomp...hang. Does any one have any suggestions on how to get it past this point? Thanks for any help. If this is not the right place to ask this, please tell me where to ask this question.05:41
wheelswitchis there a way i can open up a program in a different workspace from the command line?05:41
Bot_BuilderSo you can read to/from a symbolic link, and it is the data that is in the file it links to05:41
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BlueEaglechariscomp: you can also try #xubuntu05:42
AresBot: Explain that again, I didn't get it.05:42
Fitzzwhat is the key to paste to xterm?05:42
AresBot: Like... is the best Windows reference a "short-cut" or whatever?05:42
chariscompok, I'll try that. Thanks, BlueEagle!05:42
BlueEaglechariscomp: but thankyou for taking time to formulating your question so thuroughly. I am sorry I do not know the answer for you. :)05:42
FatchaMaCallitzI've installed Ubuntu, however when I try to boot from HD, my screen is spammed with the word grub (i know its the bootloader)05:42
Jack_SparrowSHift ctrl-v?05:42
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spadesshift05:43
spadesshift+insert *05:43
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Fitzzyeah Jack_Sparrow ... it does work on gnome-terminal but not in xterm05:43
wweaselWell, it worked. I am very happy. Now Linux and Windows share both Firefox and Thunderbird profiles and Desktops.05:43
Bot_BuilderAres: In windows, if you had a shortcut to a text file, and opened it in notepad, you'd get the shortcut data - some format that stores the location of the file it links to.  In linux, any program that accesses a symbolic link will get the data of the file it links to05:43
BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: This is in most cases due to a failed installation of grub. Often caused by the 2nd stage not being found where grub expects it to be.05:43
Fitzzoh yeah.. totally forgot that one.. thanks spades !05:43
Jack_SparrowI switched to Knoversation, I couldn't take X-term05:43
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Jack_SparrowKon05:43
darkyoshi372My status thingy (whatever the system tray is called) is messed up. Sometimes an icon or two disappear, leaving a permanent space until I refresh the panel, and the limewire/frostwire icons are always squished. What's going on?05:43
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Bot_BuilderAlso, I think that symbolic links are updated when you move the destination around, but i'm not sure05:44
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BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: What you need to do is to boot from you CD and mount the partition containing /boot (either a separate partition or it's on your / partition)05:44
AresBot: So if I open up... lets say an icon that sym links to menu.lst it would have menu.lst's information?05:44
BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: then get your menu.lst file and post it to pastebin05:44
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FatchaMaCallitzsorry blue05:44
FatchaMaCallitzi'm a linux noob05:44
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BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: you will find an IRC client on the live cd and alternate cd (xchat or irssi if I remember correctly)05:45
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AresFatacha: 500 of the people in this room probably are.05:45
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FatchaMaCallitzok i'm in windows right now.. brb ima run to my linux box05:45
FatchaMaCallitzkk?05:45
BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: ok. First up: Are you using the live cd or the alternate install cd?05:45
FatchaMaCallitzits a live boot05:45
Bot_BuilderAres - yep, and the program would think it was reading and writing to the sym link file, but really its not, the reading/writing is being forwarded through it.  Its like an internet proxy05:45
haydenanyone help me with my monitor, i am dual booting with windows with a 17inch crt 1280x1024 60hz, and when i change from windows the screen is not in the right place an i have to manually center the screen properly in ubuntu, is there a way to resolve this?05:45
BlueEaglefatchamacallitz: ok. Boot up the live cd and start an IRC client. xchat or irssi will do. Then connect here.05:45
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FatchaMaCallitzrighto, gimmie 3 min.. brb as Fatcha205:46
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kane_Hi, im using ubuntu dapper, with madwifi and my connection seems to drop pretty often, when this happens i am unable to start it back up w/o a reboot, using kwireless assistant it says it appears an external switch has been turned off...05:46
kane_any idea?05:46
technelHow do I rename files in linux from cmd line? "rename old new" always gives an error05:46
abstractismfor hayden's problem, I think that might be in xorg.conf05:46
FunnyLookinHatkane_, do you use network-manager05:46
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BlueEaglehayden: You might be running a different resolution/refresh rate in linux. If you've got an on-screen display on your monitor you will probably find the current vertical refresh rate (vsync) in th emenu.05:46
FunnyLookinHatThat could fix it...05:46
BlueEaglethe menu*05:47
snoopstechnel mv old new05:47
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StickyBittechnel: mv oldname newname05:47
technelBlueEagle, So at this point, what do you think I should do?05:47
abstractismI never had that problem since I have LCDs05:47
technelah, thanks05:47
BlueEagletechnel: not dualboot with windows? :p05:47
AresHow do I exit a man page again? [I'm so God damn forgetful] 05:47
StickyBitAres: "q"05:47
haydenBlueEagle: they are both 1280x1024@60hz05:47
technelBlueEagle, Seriously, it worked like 2 hours ago05:47
AresSticky: I so new that... Thanks.05:47
ShigunI am having an issue with flash, where it will play a couple of seconds, then just stop.  Anybody experienced it/know how to fix it/have a recommendation?05:47
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StickyBitAres: when in doubt ctrl+c kills a process05:48
technelBlueEagle, I went through every BIOS page, I never saw that thing you were talking about05:48
BlueEagletechnel: One alternative is to set up lilo. There you have got a lower level control of which harddrive uses what. However it's very very very easy to bork your system with lilo.05:48
Smoxiehey all. i just downloaded the latest ubuntu release and am installing it on my new laptop. i go 'start or install ubuntu', it goes through a few screens, but when it gets up to the actual install part (it plays the welcome sound), the screen goes black and nothing seems to happen. im guessing this is bad resolution settings, so anyone any idea how to fix?05:48
NickGarveywhen I update my kernel, what might break? I know my wireless ndiswrapper driver will, anything else?05:48
AresWhat was the logic in Ctrl-C? :\05:48
NickGarveyAres: I know?! copy = break!?05:48
AresNick: I don't get it, but I'm laughing either way.05:48
NickGarveyheh yeah05:49
BlueEaglesmoxie: are you able to press CTRL+ALT+F1 to get a console?05:49
spadesAres hes referring to windows copy being ctrl+c05:49
SmoxieBlueEagle: yes05:49
AresSpades: Yeah, =P05:49
BlueEaglesmoxie: try the command: /etc/init.d/gdm restart05:49
kane_FunnyHat-Away, aye05:49
AresSpades: Maybe the guy who did that shortcut was using the key placement of dvorak.05:49
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NickGarveyAres: c in qwerty is j in dvorak05:50
AresSpades: He's only one off of K.05:50
NickGarveyAres: and c in dvorak is i in qwerty05:50
NickGarveyaoeu ;)05:50
wheelswitchmy ubuntu menu takes up too much space!, is there an easy way to change it? |Applications Places System|05:50
AresNick: Yep =) How do you know :O05:50
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BlueEaglesmoxie: any luck?05:50
Bot_Builderhmm, yeah i never thought about ctrl-C being odd.  It works as copy in most linux apps as well05:50
StickyBitctrl+ c = cancel05:50
NickGarveyAres: aoeuidhtns heh05:50
AresNick: Heh, I can only use the home row so far. :O05:51
SmoxieBlueEagle: stopping=ok, starting=fail05:51
NickGarveyAres: oh I type with it normally05:51
NickGarveyAres: works fine for me05:51
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NickGarveyAres: not sure how many wpm I type, but its pretty good, faster than most people for sure05:51
BlueEaglesmoxie: I see. Have you tried enabling VGA safe mode when you boot?05:51
AresNick: Same here, I'm just not nearly as fast yet.05:51
ShigunActually, flash is gimping everything now.  Causing my browser to freeze up.  Thoughts, anybody?05:52
AresNick: Damn, I'll give you a wpm checker when I can.05:52
SmoxieBlueEagle: no, but i shall. i trust its a menu option? ;o05:52
NickGarveyAres: heh, I went from 70~ wpm in qwerty to dvorak though, HARD change05:52
BlueEaglesmoxie: Yes, it's F4 or something on the boot screen.05:52
AresNick: I'm 120 in QWERTY05:52
BlueEaglesmoxie: it should be listed at the bottom05:52
Bot_BuilderNickGarvey - judging by your message times you type damn fast05:52
NickGarveyAres: wow.. is that possible?05:52
AresNick: As long as I don't have to use any ,'s.05:52
SmoxieBlueEagle: ok thanks, i'll try that, bbs ^^05:52
NickGarveyAres: 120... wpm.. or cpm...05:52
NickGarveyBot_Builder: ;)05:52
AresNick: wpm.05:53
Bot_BuilderI'm not going to learn dvorak though - then you can't use normal keyboards as well05:53
ShigunNick: Its easily possible, I get around 116 WPM05:53
BlueEaglebot_builder: you :ca05:53
snoopsBot_Builder you can05:53
NickGarveyShigun: naw...05:53
Bot_Builderhmm05:53
BlueEagle_can_ use qwerty after learning dvorak but it's not fun at all.05:53
AresBot: When you use Linux, you can't use Windows as well =P05:53
Shigunlol05:53
snoopsI learnt dvorak awhile ago.. but it's a bit of a pain switching back and forth..05:53
NickGarveyShigun: I mena I typed 70~ when I was 13.. but.. I don't see hitting 120 anytime..05:53
NickGarveysnoops: why do you need to switch back and forth?05:53
snoopsmemorised the home row for dvorak actually05:53
AresI'm 14 and I got 120 wpm.05:54
ShigunNick: Why not?05:54
snoopsaoeuidhtns05:54
ShigunAnybody have a thought on this flash issue?05:54
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AresI memorised the home row to, I know the p g c r and y keys for upper row. Thats it.05:54
snoopsNickGarvey because everyone else doesn't use dvorak05:54
NickGarveysnoops: so...?05:54
Fatcha2blue, ares.. back05:54
StickyBitShigun: is it temporary or permanent?05:54
BlueEagleshigun: I've got lots of thoughts on flash and various issues with it but unfortunately none of them will help you with your problem. :)05:54
Bot_BuilderNickGarvey: so, what if you use someone else's computer?05:54
NickGarveyAres: over 3 minutes? I mean I hit 120 in a 12 second sprint.. but..05:54
NickGarveyBot_Builder: linux or windows?05:55
Fatcha2ho-kay, blueeagle.. what did you want me to do?05:55
snoopsso.. I'm not a recluse. I go around to peoples places, end up helping them with pc probs, and don't want to stuff around with remapping keys or gosh taking a keyboard with me05:55
AresOh, three minutes, Probably around 80 then.05:55
ShigunStickyBit: I can close FF, open it again, and it does the same thing05:55
Ares=P05:55
NickGarveyBot_Builder: in linux, "setxkbmap dvorak"05:55
AresI can do iono, a page of random babbling in 120wpm [Aim style] 05:55
BlueEaglefatcha2: I really don't remember. What was the problem again?05:55
Bot_Builderyeah, then you'll forget to switch it back and they'll have a messed up keyboard05:55
NickGarveyBot_Builder: in windows, control panel > regional/language settings > something something...05:55
Bot_Builderprobably go to the store and buy another05:55
snoopsat work we have a lot of pcs.. I can bind my one to dvorak, but when I have to use another, which I do, then I need to switch back.. the world can't change for me05:55
Bot_Builder(I know it doesn't switch the keyboard actually)05:55
NickGarveyBot_Builder: don't forget to switch it back!05:55
Bot_Builderbut people might think it would05:55
NickGarveyBot_Builder: although, this program "autohotkey" can remap it for you05:56
Fatcha2BlueEagle: grub fails to install.. and when i boot my screen is spammed with GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB05:56
AresThe worst thing so far is when I was playing Warcraft and it switched. My friend and I couldn't talk anymore. I'm like AOEU! AOEU!05:56
Bot_Buildernah, it's a hassle.  I can type as fast as I can think05:56
StickyBitShigun: well in my experience flash on linux doesn't work very well in general. It's v7 and they just released v9. never had much luck with tht eplugin05:56
BlueEaglefatcha2: Ahh, yes.05:56
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BlueEaglefatcha2: When you installed ubuntu did you choose a separate partition for /boot?05:56
Bot_Buildersomeone needs to make a programmer keyboard layout05:57
StickyBitShigun: you could try deleting all your broswer cache and reinstalling the plugin05:57
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NickGarveyBot_Builder: I saw one once05:57
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Fatcha2BlueEagle: I made a swap partition and a / partion.. 2 parts total one ext3 and one swap05:57
BlueEaglefatcha2: Do you remember which partition is your root (/) partition?05:57
ShigunStickyBit: Did that05:57
BlueEaglefatcha2: ie /dev/hda5 or something05:57
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Fatcha2hda105:57
Bot_BuilderNickGarvey: ooh, cool.  Symbol keys with no shift pressage :O05:57
Fatcha2BlueEagle: hda105:57
BlueEaglefatcha2: ok. please open a terminal window05:57
Fatcha2lol k05:57
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt05:57
snoopsBot_Builder someone did.. it was a called a touchstream lp, developed by fingerworks05:57
BlueEaglefatcha2: cd /mnt/boot05:58
NickGarveyBot_Builder: you colud make one if you wanted05:58
NickGarveyBot_Builder: you have a bunch of keymap files05:58
StickyBitShigun: does it work well in your other broswers?05:58
BlueEaglegedit menu.lst05:58
snoopsthe company was bought, and a conspiracy is around who bought it - the concensus seems to be apple05:58
NickGarveyBot_Builder: you can edit them pretty easy05:58
Fatcha2BlueEagle: only root can do that >.<05:58
ShigunStickyBit: No other browsers05:58
AresDoes the away thing work?05:58
BlueEaglefatcha2: after which command?05:58
Fatcha2BlueEagle: after mount /dev/hda1 /mnt05:58
Bot_Buildernick - heh, yeah, but then I'd be even more screwed than if I just learned dvorak05:58
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BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt   <= that one?05:58
NickGarveyBot_Builder: heh true05:59
_with_a_ykinda off topic but does anyone know how to create the newer, glassy-looking icons?  i'm not really a GIMP/Photoshop expert.05:59
BlueEaglefatcha2: did you remember "sudo"?05:59
AresWith: Check out gimptalk.05:59
Fatcha2BlueEagle: oooh I thought you meant "so do"05:59
] GoldenDragonhow do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "05:59
Fatcha2<<like I said.. noob05:59
ShigunStickybit: Got it.  ln -s /tmp/.esd-1000 /tmp/.esd05:59
_with_a_yares:  thanks.05:59
BlueEaglefatcha2: hehe :)05:59
Bot_Builderwould be interesting to do keyboard analysis like what was used to create dvorak, only with code in various languages as data on frequency05:59
StickyBitShigun: well i haven't experienced your problem, so i'm just guessing, but you could try to install another broswer and see if you get the same results (opera, konquer) if you do it's firefox05:59
AresWith: Not sure though, just check it out.05:59
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StickyBitShigun: cool.06:00
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foofoooodoes neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)06:00
foofoooodoes neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)06:00
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ok.. done.. i'm in the mnt dir06:00
BlueEaglefatcha2: gedit menu.lst06:00
AresBot: I remember seeing documentation on a QWERTY vs Dvorak battle. It was a computer algorithm making the "best" computer keyboard due to multiple peoples user inputs. The computer couldn't come up with a better Dvorak layout.06:00
BlueEaglefatcha2: now open a webbrowser and head to the pastebin site that ubotu sais06:00
BlueEagle!pastebin06:00
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)06:01
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ok.. i'm at a blank doc06:01
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BlueEagleyou've got a blank doc?06:01
jmeIs there a good way to identify the generic wireless card I'm using in my laptop?06:01
Fatcha2BlueEagle: totally blank06:01
BlueEaglethat's weird06:01
BlueEagle:(06:01
AresFoo: I'm using XP and Ubuntu safely.06:01
Bot_BuilderAres - well, dvorak is undoubtadly better06:01
BlueEaglefatcha2: however that will explain the error. :)06:01
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Fatcha2BlueEagle: >.<06:01
BlueEaglefatcha2: no, wait. My bad.06:01
johanbrjme: lspci06:01
BlueEagleclose the gedit window06:01
Fatcha2BlueEagle: righto06:01
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Bot_BuilderQWERTY was actually designed to slow you down, unless thats just  an urban legend06:01
BlueEaglefatcha2: gedit grub/menu.lst06:01
BlueEaglethat should help06:02
AresBot: Yeah, thats what I hear.06:02
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Fatcha2BlueEagle: right sec06:02
BlueEagleoh wait. You're in the /mnt directory?06:02
Bot_BuilderBut it's plenty fast for me06:02
AresThe only problem right now, when I use QWERTY is that I pound my keyboard to peaces.06:02
foofoooodoes neone know how to  SAAFELY dual  boot windows  xp  & ubuntu ?   (i    tried the ubuntu boot loader with badger  with terrible results)06:02
BlueEaglefatcha2: make that: gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst06:02
AresFoo, yes. Use the regular install?06:02
snoopsno it wasn't designed to slow you down. It was designed so certain key combinations weren't together so the OLD typewriter keys would not lock up when you pressed two commonly used keys together in quick succession06:02
Fatcha2BlueEagle: rofl k06:02
BlueEagle:)06:02
BlueEaglefatcha2: Don't worry. I know exactly what I'm doing. :p06:02
AresSnoops: Wouldn't that be slowing you down?06:02
Bot_Buildersnoops - ah06:02
Fatcha2BlueEagle: AAH! woot! Text!06:03
Bot_Builderyeah, i think it would :P06:03
snoopsAres the result slowed you down, but it wasn't designed to slow you down06:03
AresSnoops: Now you are just messing with me.06:03
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BlueEaglefatcha2: Goodie. Now open a browser and head to  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:03
snoopsit was designed around the mechanical issues of the typewriter06:03
Fatcha2BlueEagle: kk sec06:03
BlueEaglefatcha2: and copy the text from the gedit window and into pastebin then hand us the url06:03
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AresSnoops: Ok. You win, I don't want a flame battle raging so soon.06:04
snoopswhen dvorak came out it was known to be far better, but the cost was close to a month's salary back then06:04
jmejohanbr, I don't believe lspci displays pcmcia devices06:04
foofoooocan  someone help me with dual booting  ubuntu?06:04
AresFoo: Yes, if you ask a questian.06:04
Fatcha2BlueEagle: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1714006:04
s34nWill 6.06 live CD boot with 128M RAM?06:04
jmes34n, I'd recommend the alternate install CD06:04
johanbrjme: Oh, it's pcmcia... maybe "dmesg |tail" just after you plug in the card.06:04
AresS34n: Probably. Though I suggest getting a different window manager.06:05
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] GoldenDragonhow do i find the device name of my keyboard(i dunno what its called.. should look like... " /dev/input/js0 "06:05
ic56] GoldenDragon: are you sure you don't want /dev/tty ?06:05
s34nI've tried a laptop and a PC, both with 128M, and both boot eternally (as in I quit after multiple hours)06:05
] GoldenDragonhmm, i'll try, what is tty supposed to be?06:06
BlueEaglefatcha2: on the command line (you might need to open a new terminal or new tab): ls /mnt/boot/vmlinux-2.6.15-23*06:06
BlueEaglefatcha2: does that give you anything?06:06
ic56] GoldenDragon: what are you trying to accomplish?06:06
Fatcha2BlueEagle: sec.. lemme give that a shot06:06
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foofoooocan  i connect to  my existing subversion respository which is   currently on a  windows   box &  shared over a local network?06:06
] GoldenDragonumm, i'm trying to configure the OmniJoy plugin for pcsx but when setting the keys it says "error opening device dev/input/js0 please double check yourself!"06:07
Fatcha2BlueEagle: no such file or dir..06:07
BlueEaglefatcha2: oh, really?06:07
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ja06:07
abstractismwrong06:07
BlueEaglefatcha2: ls /mnt/boot   <= does that show anything that looks like vmlinuz at all?06:07
Fatcha2BlueEagle: sec06:07
abstractismFatcha2: the correct answer was ya rly06:08
abstractismhehe ;)06:08
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BlueEagleabstractism: o'rly?06:08
Fatcha2BlueEagle: vmlinuz-2.6.15-23-38606:08
abstractismya rly!06:08
ic56] GoldenDragon: hang on, checking something06:08
Fatcha2rofl i hear my hd on my lappy chruning away06:08
] GoldenDragonk06:08
BlueEaglefatcha2: ahh, my typo. :)06:08
jmejohanbr, that worked06:08
Fatcha2i'm installing a very light kde distro06:09
jmeat least, it got the chipset, which should be enough...06:09
BlueEaglefatcha2: Well then that's not the issue there.06:09
Fatcha2rofl06:09
ToHellWithGAhow can i use alias to make a long command shorter?06:09
Fatcha2BlueEagle: now wait.. what are you refering to?06:09
jme!bash06:09
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:09
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ToHellWithGAthanks jme06:09
BlueEagletohellwithga: alias shortcommad="longcommadn --with-options"06:09
jmewell, that's not quite it06:09
ToHellWithGAthanks BlueEagle as well06:09
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johanbrjme: Ok, cool. Now you just have to find the proper driver. :)06:10
jmeToHellWithGA, you'll want to put the alias in your ~/.bashrc file06:10
BlueEaglefatcha2: I am refering to the fact hhat it's 6:14 am and I'm typing "vmlinux" instead of "vmlinuz" :)06:10
jmejohanbr, it's an atmel-based card06:10
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jmefortunately it has an OSS driver, but the card itself is garbage!06:10
mouseIs there any way to fastswitch tabs, like ctrl+tab in windows?06:10
Fatcha2BlueEagle: aah lol, ho-kay.. so can we continue? Please continue helping the noob06:10
jmeI want to try to update the firmware...06:10
abstractismBlueEagle: are you in europe or asia?06:10
Fatcha2mouse.. alt-tab?06:11
] GoldenDragonmouse alt+tab works,06:11
BlueEaglefatcha2: I am attempting to think here. :)06:11
ToHellWithGAthanks jme06:11
BlueEagleabstractism: Norway. GMT+106:11
mouseThose both change open windows, not open tabs06:11
Fatcha2BlueEagle: yea.. thats kinda hard lol06:11
abstractismBlueEagle: neat :)06:11
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BlueEagleabstractism: That's a question of definition. :)06:11
Fatcha2i think this is the most positive irc i've ever been in06:11
] GoldenDragonctrl tab is working to change tabs here(atleast in GAIM)06:11
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BlueEaglefatcha2: ok, close your browser and your gedit window.06:11
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AresHmm, anyone know of any hardening Ubuntu guides?06:11
Fatcha2BlueEagle: rgr06:12
] GoldenDragonits also working in firefox06:12
abstractismtexas, USA; GMT-606:12
johanbrjme: I don't know anything about atmel specifically, but firmware is usually extracted from the windows drivers in one way or another.06:12
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mouse] GoldenDragon, , Sadly not in xchat or the majority of tabbed things in icewm06:12
ToHellWithGAjme: i don't have a ~/.bashrc file06:12
AresNo point in running Linux if you don't get paranoid with security after all =)06:12
s34nwhat are the recommended specs for dapper?06:12
ToHellWithGAshould i just make one with vi with my alias in it?06:12
Fatcha2BlueEagle: done, back at the console06:12
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jmeToHellWithGA, you presumably due, but it's hidden06:12
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mousealt+1 etc seem to work for xchat, I will try it in icepref real quick06:12
jmetry 'ls -A' in your home directory06:12
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ToHellWithGAvi ~/.bashrc gave me an empty file06:12
Aress34n: Your only problem is your ram I think, 128 is a little low for Gnome, maybe a lighter Window Manager?06:12
navidSorry guys, I know this is the Ubuntu IRC but I got a problem with Kubuntu.06:12
navidI installed ubuntu but then changed my mind and installed the kubuntu-desktop and uninstalled ubuntu thoroughly. Now I can't have kdm as my display manager and every time I boot the computer it reaches runlevel 4 and then I have to type " startx ". Any way to set KDM as my display manager?06:12
BlueEaglefatcha2: on the commandprompt: sudo mount --bind /proc/ /mnt/proc && sudo chroot /mnt/06:13
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jmejohanbr, it's a native driver: http://atmelwlandriver.sourceforge.net/ -- but it doesn't support the full wireless extensions06:13
ic56] GoldenDragon: /dev/tty is for higher level work.  Sounds like you really do need that device.  My Debian system indeed has a /dev/input/js0 . My Ubuntu system (5.10) doesn't, though that directory in Ubuntu does contain the other devices like event0, mouse0, etc.  I see a /dev/input/ts0 in my ubuntu system.  No idea what it does, but it doesn't exist on my Debian system.  See if you have something like that.  It might be 06:13
mouseDarn, alt+2 didnt work in icepref or iceconf06:13
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j1pis there a way with wget to just download all files of a certain file extension in a directory?06:13
BlueEaglefatcha2: that should (in theory) put you with a shell prompt in the installed environment.06:13
Fatcha2BlueEagle: oooh... root06:13
s34nAres: I'm downloading the alternate iso now06:13
Fatcha2BlueEagle: yuuummy06:13
johanbrjme: But upgrading the firmware won't help you with the wireless extensions. Or am I missing something?06:13
jmeToHellWithGA, you're not running a weird custom install, or running as root...?06:13
] GoldenDragonhmm... i'll look06:13
ToHellWithGAi am not06:13
BlueEaglefatcha2: now: grub06:13
jmewell, the card might suck less!06:13
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Aress34n: Think you need to get the alternate Ubuntu cd with that other manager.06:14
BlueEaglefatcha2: that should give you the grub cli.06:14
ToHellWithGAi see /etc/bash.bashrc when doing a search06:14
ToHellWithGAis that the right file?06:14
Fatcha2BlueEagle: yep06:14
BlueEaglefatcha2: now I need to loop up the commands for you. :)06:14
johanbrjme: That's possible, but extensions support lies in the driver, not in the firmware.06:14
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jmeToHellWithGA,  try 'find / -name .bashrc'06:14
Fatcha2BlueEagle: that went right above my head.. do what now?06:14
AresS34n: I think Xubuntu would be the one.06:14
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jmeit woud be darn weird, because Ubuntu defaults with a custom bash06:14
axisyshow do I open a .doc file that is written in bengali ?06:15
anarchticsomeone give me the info about lamp06:15
AresS34n: http://www.xubuntu.org/06:15
Ares!info lamp06:15
ubotuPackage lamp does not exist in dapper06:15
BlueEaglefatcha2: root (hd0,0)06:15
AresDarn.06:15
anarchtick06:15
ToHellWithGAjme: i'm getting "/etc/skel/.bashrc" and "/root/.bashrc"06:15
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] GoldenDragonehh, its late i'll work on it tommorow06:15
BlueEaglefatcha2: setup (hd0)06:15
anarchtic!info lamp06:15
ubotuPackage lamp does not exist in dapper06:15
Fatcha2BlueEagle: wait06:15
BlueEaglefatcha2: errors?06:15
Fatcha2BlueEagle: selected disk does not exist06:15
ToHellWithGA!lamp06:15
ubotulamp is a shortcut for Linux-Apache-Mysql-{PHP,Perl,Python}. To setup a LAMP server on Ubuntu, install the packages libapache2-mod-php5, php5-mysql, and mysql-server-5.0. You can also choose 'install a LAMP server' from the server install cd boot menu. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP06:15
jmewell, at any rate, you can make your own ~/.bashrc to customize Bash06:15
BlueEaglefatcha2: Oh, really?06:15
anarchticthx06:15
AresToHellWithGA: Nice.06:15
Fatcha2BlueEagle: hd1 perhaps?06:15
ToHellWithGAyall are so crazy about knowing when to use and not use !info06:16
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ic56] GoldenDragon: ok. goodnight!06:16
BlueEaglefatcha2: try this instead then: find /boot/grub/stage106:16
ToHellWithGAthanks jme06:16
axisysthe fonts are all garbage.. i need to be able to convert them in bengali font in openoffic before i can read it06:16
boitanoFirefox is extremely unstable on my dapper box, are there any known issues? I have used automatix in the past06:16
Fatcha2BlueEagle: from grub gli or from console06:16
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BlueEaglefatcha2: from grub06:16
Fatcha2BlueEagle: righto, sec06:16
AmaranthToHellWithGA: !info is for looking up packages06:16
Amaranth!info alacarte06:16
ubotualacarte: easy menu editing. In repository main, is optional. Version 0.8-0ubuntu12 (dapper), package size 57 kB, installed size 472 kB06:16
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Aresboitano: Have you tried #Firefox on irc.mozilla.org [or something, I can't remember] 06:16
Fatcha2BlueEagle: error, file is not found06:16
BlueEagleoh really?06:17
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Fatcha2yes really06:17
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ToHellWithGAlisten to Amaranth to figure out how to use ubotu :D06:17
NickGarvey!info linux-sources06:17
ubotuPackage linux-sources does not exist in dapper06:17
IdleOne!tell boitano about automatix06:17
ToHellWithGA!info quodlibet06:17
BlueEaglefatcha2: quit06:17
ubotuquodlibet: audio library manager and player for GTK+. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.18-3ubuntu1 (dapper), package size 26 kB, installed size 128 kB06:17
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Amaranth!info linux-source-2.6.1506:18
ubotulinux-source-2.6.15: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.15 with Ubuntu patches. In repository main, is optional. Version 2.6.15-25.43 (dapper), package size 43417 kB, installed size 43556 kB06:18
Amaranthwhee06:18
ToHellWithGAkewl06:18
Fatcha2BlueEagle: done06:18
jme!abuse06:18
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines06:18
jmewait, nm06:18
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imarunghi all.. i installed wxPython from source.. now i am able to import wx from inside the wxPython directory but when I import from elsewhere it reports error saying missing.. any ideas06:18
BlueEaglefatcha2: ls /boot06:18
Amaranthjme: :P06:18
BlueEaglefatcha2: ls /boot/grub/06:18
BlueEaglefatcha2: do you see a file named stage1 anywhere?06:18
Amaranthjme: I'll stop. :)06:18
NickGarveyimarung: add it to your path file06:18
Fatcha2BlueEagle: yep06:18
BlueEaglefatcha2: in /boot or in /boot grub?06:18
Amaranthkinda slow in here though06:18
BlueEagle/boot/grub*06:19
imarungNickGarvey: did that..06:19
Fatcha2BlueEagle: grub06:19
NickGarveyimarung: no idea then :)06:19
BlueEaglefatcha2: oh really?06:19
Fatcha2BlueEagle: no, not really06:19
BlueEagleno?06:19
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ROFL, dude i'm kidding, its int /boot/grub06:19
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BlueEagle:)06:19
BlueEaglefatcha2: pwd06:20
abstractismBlueEagle: ya rly! ;)06:20
Fatcha2BlueEagle: term returns /06:20
BlueEagleabstractism: @@:)  <= the roflm smiley06:20
abstractismand/or no wai!06:20
BlueEaglefatcha2: oh? I see.06:20
Fatcha2BlueEagle: do i need to cd to grub?06:20
BlueEaglefatcha2: whoami06:20
Fatcha2BlueEagle: root06:21
NickGarveyBlueEagle: you are BlueEagle06:21
BlueEaglenickgarvey: haha06:21
Fatcha2rofl06:21
BlueEaglefatcha2: weird.06:21
abstractism hehe06:21
imarunghow do i remove a software that i installed from source06:21
BlueEaglefatcha2: grub06:21
jmeWhee, found the firmware I need! http://packages.debian.org/stable/net/atmel-firmware06:21
BlueEagleimarung: make uninstall or make clean usually06:21
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BlueEaglefatcha2: find /boot/grub/stage106:21
Fatcha2BlueEagle: i love you just throwing term commands at me06:21
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abstractismoh, another internet romance blossoms06:22
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SurfnKidanyone recommend a good usb adapter chip06:22
Fatcha2BlueEagle: error 15: file not found06:22
BlueEaglefatcha2: I am not throwing them. Term commands are fragile so I am gently handing them over. :p06:22
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Fatcha2BlueEagle: lol should be 40406:22
SurfnKideasy to connect to without going thru kernel compilation etc06:22
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Fatcha2BlueEagle: btw, good one06:22
BlueEaglefatcha2: ok, this I do not understand. :(06:22
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SurfnKidusb wifi adapter that is..06:23
Fatcha2BlueEagle: well i'm confused too, so you're not the only one06:23
abstractismfrah-je-lay06:23
Fatcha2fra-gee-lee06:23
abstractismsounds french06:23
Fatcha2must be italian06:23
SpecIs it possible to make mount check/load a module before it mounts a specific partition?06:23
abstractismoh yeah, italian, lol06:23
BlueEaglefatcha2: when I run find /boot/grub/stage1 I get back (hd0,9) which is my /boot partition. :(06:24
SoliloDoes anyone in here know if the MPD package on the universe repository was compiled w/o support for MP4/M4A/AAC decoders?06:24
abstractismFatcha2: owned r i06:24
Fatcha2lol abs06:24
Fatcha2BlueEagle: want a screenie?06:24
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abstractismI like that movie but couldn't really remember the quote06:24
BlueEaglefatcha2: No, no. I believe you, but I do not undestand why you are getting that error.06:24
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abstractismwhich is sad cause I'm usually rather good at quotes06:25
BlueEaglefatcha2: Which filesystem have you got on /dev/hda1?06:25
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ext306:25
Fatcha2i think06:25
BlueEaglefatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda06:25
Fatcha2BlueEagle: from grub?06:25
BlueEaglefatcha2: no, my mistake06:25
BlueEaglefatcha2: quit06:25
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s34nAres: xubuntu requires 128M to install (which is ok for me this time, but is still a lot for a "light" edition)06:26
BlueEaglefatcha2: fdisk -l /dev/hda06:26
abstractismfrom the normal terminal, I think06:26
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BlueEaglefatcha2: what is listed under "system" for hda1?06:26
BlueEagleis it hpfs/ntfs?06:26
Fatcha2BlueEagle: lol nothing was returned06:26
BlueEaglefatcha2: logout06:26
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda06:26
Aress34n. Wait, you can't afford 128mb of memory?06:27
Fatcha2System for hda1 is linux, system for hda2 is sawp/solaris06:27
BlueEaglefatcha2: damn, then that's not the error either :(06:27
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Aress34n: As in, harddrive memory? Or was that just ram?06:27
Linuturkok, got a wierd problem. partitioned a harddrive with the window install disk (120 gb disk  80-ntfs 40-unpartitioned) windows install goes fine, with all updates and service packs processed.06:27
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s34nAres: RAM06:28
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Linuturkinstalled Ubuntu 6.06 onto the unallocated space, with an automatic partitioning scheme06:28
Fatcha2BlueEagle: I feel really special, having a really chalenging problem and all..06:28
cyphaseis Ares = Ryan?06:28
Aress34n: If you want something small, why don't you forget fancy displays and fire up a full screen terminal =)06:28
AresUm, no?06:28
cyphaseah06:28
cyphasenevermind06:28
AresI just use Ares as a term on Warcraft, I'm sorry.06:28
cyphase:)06:28
sethkBlueEagle, getting your boot partition displayed is not a problem there06:28
cyphasenp06:28
AresThough you can call me Ryan if it makes you feel better.06:28
BlueEaglefatcha2: You should be feelign really stupid for having such a ridiculous probem. :p hehe06:28
cyphaselol06:28
Fatcha2BlueEagle: is there any way for me to do a remote deskop?06:28
Ares=)06:28
Linuturkwhen I tried to boot into windows again, it would show it's loading page, but reboot immediately06:28
AresWhat version of Windows, XP?06:29
sethkLinuturk, usually that means the boot loader for windows is still there but the windows partition itself is damaged06:29
BlueEaglefatcha2: I am not sure.06:29
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BlueEaglefatcha2: I haven't used the ubuntu livecd. I run xubunty myself.06:29
rixthIf a process is marked as 'uninterruptible' how can I kill it?06:29
LinuturkAres, XP Home06:29
Linuturksethk, fresh install06:30
Fatcha2BlueEagle: oh >.<06:30
BlueEaglerixth: sudo kill -9 PID06:30
sethkLinuturk, fresh install of what?06:30
Linuturkxp home06:30
rixthBlueEagle, didn't do it06:30
Linuturkno partition resizing06:30
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start06:30
cfh_devWhat is the lettering order for ide drives?  primary, master is hda.  How do the others fall?06:30
BlueEaglefatcha2: does that work at all?06:30
Fatcha2BlueEagle: cmd not found06:31
AresLinuturk: You installed Ubuntu ontop of Windows? :O06:31
BlueEaglefatcha2: I thought so. :(06:31
Linuturkno Ares06:31
ic56cfh_dev: primary slave is hdb, sec master hdc, etc06:31
Linuturkin the unallocated space06:31
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cfh_devic56: ah, so it is controller then device.  thanks!06:31
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johanbrrixth: You can't.06:31
BlueEagle!vnc06:31
s34nrixth: kill -15 PID06:31
ubotuvnc is a (slow) way of doing remote desktop, x11vnc uses your current session. A faster remote desktop is !freenx06:31
ic56cfh_dev: correct. yw!06:31
AresLinuturk: You have to partition the harddrive before installing Ubuntu.06:31
rixthjohanbr, it's a rhythmbox process ffs.06:31
cfh_dev!freenx06:31
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX06:31
Specx11vnc uses your current session eh?06:31
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Fatcha2this hurts, my suse 10 dvd is beckoning me06:32
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Specis it possible to use your own session with freenx?06:32
LinuturkAres, i did, via the windows installer06:32
TTT_TravisI am having a problem with ubuntu, I can't get a display resolution above 1024x768, my laptop's native res is way higher then that06:32
johanbrrixth: Let me guess... there's an nfs mount involved?06:32
TTT_Travis4000xsomething or so06:32
LinuturkAres, then i partitioned using the ubuntu installer06:32
rixthjohanbr, nope06:32
AresLinuturk: I'm very confused on what you are saying :O06:32
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AresLinuturk: You installed Windows, first, correct?06:32
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/etc06:32
LinuturkAres, yes06:32
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo chroot /mnt/06:32
AresLinuturk: Did you use the whole hard drive?06:32
IdleOne!fixres06:33
ubotux is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto06:33
BlueEaglefatcha2: sudo apt-get install sshd06:33
johanbrrixth: Strange, then I don't know. Anyway, you can't do much about uninterruptible processes. Except wait and hope for them to exit.06:33
BlueEaglefatcha2: acutally you don't need sudo on the last one.06:33
LinuturkAres, no, i left 40 gigs unformatted06:33
Specrixth: zombie processes won't go away06:33
Fatcha2BlueEagle: sudo: unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostbyname()06:33
Specrixth: you have to kill the parent process that spawned it06:33
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rixthSpec, top doesn't have it marked as a zombie06:33
LinuturkAres, then i formatted using the Ubuntu installer, after i updated windows06:33
BlueEaglefatcha2: Then I'm all out of ideas. Sorry that I couldn't help you.06:34
AresLinuturk: Does Ubuntu run?06:34
deshantmhi, does anyone know how to make ctrl+tab work in epiphany like it does in firefox? (i.e. to switch to the next tab)... currently ctrl+page up/down do that06:34
Fatcha2BlueEagle: oooh you're kidding06:34
LinuturkAres, yes, perfectly06:34
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BlueEaglefatcha2: it's 6:40 am and I've been up since 9am yesterday.06:34
AresLinuTurk: So, you have Windows start loading through... Grub via Chain loading, right?06:34
AresLinuTurk: Then, it just hangs.06:34
LinuturkAres, windows is caught in a reboot loop. The loading screen pops up, but it quickly restarts06:34
Fatcha2BlueEagle: is there a possibility that it could be my partition? should it try the autoinstall? I feel your pain also blueeagle.06:34
AresLinuTurk: I had something like that happen, but God dammit, I forgot that too.06:35
cfh_devIs it possible to get a device description for the various /dev/hd* ?06:35
BlueEaglefatcha2: It shouldn't be. The problem is that grub can't seem to find your root partition at all.06:35
LinuturkAres, i tried the process twice. Once with auto partitioning, once manual06:35
Fatcha2Linuturk, can you do F8 and console, chkdsk06:35
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BlueEaglefatcha2: and that is a problem I've never had nor seen.06:35
sysdocTTT_Travis, lol 4000xsomething! Maybe 1440xsomething....06:36
TTT_Travisyeah06:36
Fatcha2BlueEagle: well ty for your time..06:36
TTT_Travisthats what I mean't ;)06:36
sysdoclol06:36
Fatcha2BlueEagle: ty ty alot06:36
TTT_TravisI wish it was 4000xsomething06:36
BlueEaglefatcha2: You could check in your bios that the drive is set to LBA and not some other exotic system.06:36
LinuturkFatcha2, didn't think of that06:36
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TTT_Travisanother question how do I get my wireless to work? this is a Lenovo Thinkpad T6006:36
deshantm!epiphany06:36
ubotuI know nothing about epiphany06:36
TTT_Travisdon't know what card it is06:36
LinuturkFatcha2, how would the ubuntu install tear up windows though?06:36
elementis there a DAP for linux? (download accelerator plus)06:37
AresLinuTurk: Did you put your grub info in the wrong place/06:37
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Fatcha2linuturk, no idea.. as long as the windows partition is still there, you're prolly still ok windows wise06:37
deshantm!firefox06:37
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins06:37
BlueEaglefatcha2: you're very welcom06:37
LinuturkAres, it handled that automatically, as far as I could tell06:37
BlueEaglenow I am calling it the night. Have a good one everybody.06:37
Linuturkseeing as windows was on the first partition06:37
Fatcha2BlueEalge: night man06:37
Paul2Hey can anyone help me with a network problem related to the nVidia 410 chipset and ubuntu 6.06?06:38
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Fatcha2guys, i'm out.. ima play with ubuntu.. try to fix my problem06:38
Fatcha2bbl06:38
sysdocTTT_Travis, you have 2 questions there that require you knowing what the hardware is.06:38
BlueEaglefatcha2: oh and if all else fails make a smaller /boot partition as /dev/hda106:38
SurfnKidI like Breezy06:38
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SurfnKidthe only thing I dont is the lack of APM support06:38
SurfnKidi need to do some forum checking06:39
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AresLinuTurk: Oh yeah, you're right, this isn't like other systems :/06:39
Fatcha2BlueEagle: 8gb is what it is now.. its a 100 gb drive06:39
SurfnKid!APM06:39
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ubotuI know nothing about APM06:39
AresLinuTurk: If worse comes to worse, redo everything.06:39
LinuturkAres, well, i've done that twice06:39
Fatcha2BlueEagle: swap is a gig06:39
Linuturk:/06:39
AresLinuTurk: Um, got a spare hard drive?06:39
Fatcha2yea ares, thats a great thing to tell someone06:39
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LinuturkAres, nope06:40
Fatcha2just like.. phuck it06:40
Fatcha2reinstall rofl06:40
AresFetcha2: I came from windows =)06:40
Linuturkthat is the windows philosphy06:40
Linuturk;p06:40
Fatcha2nice (>.<)06:40
AresFetcha2: We're lazy, and don't care =P06:40
Paul2My ethernet card stops working after rebooting to windows then back to ubuntu. Does any one know how to fix this it is my only yay to connect to the internet.06:40
hey560hello06:40
Fatcha2well i'm a windows user too06:40
[soop] paul2: stop rebooting into windows06:40
Linuturkretry, restart, reinstall06:40
hey560has anyone made an amarok 1.4.1 package yet?06:40
[soop] problem solved06:40
Linuturkthe three r's of windows administration06:40
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AresLinuTurk: If all else fails, find someone who made a Wizard that solves the problem.06:41
[soop] paul2: why are you rebooting back into windows?06:41
Paul2I wish I could.06:41
[soop] why can't you?06:41
Fatcha2peace out -_-06:41
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sysdocLinuturk, please no,lol06:41
renewiphi, can I write on ntfs partition if I rebuild ubuntu kernel ???06:41
[soop] renewip: I don't think so06:41
AresRenewip: I don't think NTFS is writable just yet.06:41
[soop] not at any level I'd trust06:41
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Linuturksysdoc, please no what?06:41
donutsHello all! I have a problem installing dapper on a powerbook (related to bootstrap partition)06:41
AresRenewip: fat32 is, but I really wouldn't try writing to anything with NTFS.06:41
sysdocDon't recite the 306:42
Paul2I have a few work related progs that won't run with WINE.06:42
AresPaul2: What are they?06:42
Linuturksysdoc ;p06:42
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Paul2What are they what?06:43
donutsdoes anyone have much knowledge about installing dapper on ppc32?06:43
Paul2oh nvm06:43
inonoIs there a package for RubyGems06:43
Linuturklmao06:43
[Ex0r] Happy independence day!06:43
AresPaul2: What are the programs you can't use or haven't found an alternative too?06:44
Paul2custom in company stuff06:44
[soop] Paul2: which programs?06:44
AresDammit, I screwed up my clock again.06:44
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[soop] like what? vb apps for inventory or something similar?06:44
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Paul2not to mention my wifes games.06:44
[soop] or is it not something that users could utilize a terminal server for06:44
[soop] paul2: which ones, I had the same issue06:44
[soop] now she's somewhat content06:45
Paul2yea06:45
pete27I'm a gentoo/fedora user who loves KDE.  I want to try ubuntu.  Should I try regular Ubuntu regardless of my preference for KDE, or is Kubuntu just as good as regular ubuntu?06:45
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donutshello, any mac users here? (having issues with bootstrap partition)06:45
[soop] pete: if you like kde stick with kde06:45
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farkydonuts: intel mac?06:45
[soop] i was a windowmaker fan and now I dont mind gnome06:45
AresPete27: Gentoo fan who is a fedora fan? Holy hell, I never would see the day.06:45
jiShfor kde dont use kubuntu imo06:45
donutsnop ppc06:45
jiShsomething like mepis 6 better for kde06:45
hey560pete27: kubuntu will be as good as ubuntu but with KDE06:45
donuts1 ghz powerbook aluminium g406:46
Paul2I have read that forcedeth is the problem here but I have found no soultion.06:46
farkydonuts: nvm cause there was an article on the forums I saw about the macbook pro06:46
pete27cool06:46
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donutsfarky: thanks06:46
hey560you can switch between them very easily too06:46
noiesmopete27, only if you want to learn gnome other wise the kubuntu and ubuntu same base just desktop varies06:46
farkydonuts: I "might06:47
farkydonuts: I "might" be able to help06:47
pete27Everyone makes a big deal about ubuntu, so I figured maybe they did some nice stuff with gnome.06:47
AresIts very streamlined and fast.06:47
AresThats about it.06:47
pete27And I thought that Kubuntu might have been an afterthought06:47
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AresOh, and you can download a compiz/xgl binary for Ubuntu [Gnome] 06:47
pete27hence I should give ubuntu a shot instead of kubuntu, but if that's not the case, I'll go with kubuntu06:48
donutsfarky: would it be an idea to pv?06:48
farkydonuts: join the channel #donuts06:48
AresWant to try out compiz, I hear its rad.06:48
Ares[Directed to pete27] 06:48
pete27Ares: I thought you could use xgl with KDE just fine?06:48
noiesmoi run XGL?Compiz on kubuntu Ares06:48
donutsfarky: I'm not on my box now, so I'll jsut have a few questions, no spoonfeeding needed06:48
pete27I checked our Koraraa and it was awesome06:48
AresI alway sthought Compiz was backing Gnome nativly.06:48
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farkydonuts: so what are you trying to do? Again I'm no expert06:48
pete27nah, the gentoo HOWTO says xgl and compiz work fine with KDE06:49
AresDarn.06:49
Ares=)06:49
pete27I would try Xgl with gentoo but I'de have to reemerge X and gnome and that takes about a day06:49
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AresThought we could end the KDE vs Gnome thing.06:49
noiesmopete27, no problems here  running kde xgl/compiz06:49
amonkeywhat package do i need to get if what i'm trying to compile needs kdialog?06:49
pete27noiesmo: can you run opengl apps inside Xgl06:49
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varsendaggrhey would someone plese tell me how to play quake 2   i have it installed but i need soemthign else    the .quake files06:50
noiesmopete27, can play quake306:50
pete27sweet06:50
Risky_jatthey06:50
varsendaggri love xgl06:50
varsendaggri don't htink i can go back06:50
noiesmopete27, but i have setup so can switch between xgl compiz and normal as some sdl apps dont like xgl compiz06:50
Risky_jattwhat is the latest kernel used for ubuntu dapper 606:50
pete27it is pretty damned cool06:50
pete27noiesmo: I imagine I would do the same06:51
varsendaggrhow do you get quake 3 for linux?06:51
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pete27buy it at a store06:51
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Risky_jattis ubuntu dapper 6.06 can use kernel 2.6.17 ?06:51
noiesmopete27, here's link to my screenshoots its a little slow at moment http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/mediagallery/album.php?aid=1&page=106:51
skonhello06:52
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AresCan you just apt-get Compiz and xgl?06:52
noiesmopete27, howto on site as well for kubuntu dapper06:52
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noiesmoAres, yes06:52
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pete27noiesmo: cool. I have to d/l the iso first though and install06:52
[soop] man I hate to say it but ubuntu has made me lazy06:52
noiesmoAres, would use quinnstorm packages need to add repos06:52
Risky_jatthow to update kernel in ubuntu ?06:52
[soop] I just want to apt-get everything06:52
pete27Have you tried kororaa?06:53
[soop] apt-get complete system with everything i could possibly ever think of compiling06:53
AresNoiesmo: Mind guiding me through everything?06:53
noiesmoapt-get roks06:53
[soop] make world06:53
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Paul2so no one knows how to fix the "windows is skrewing up my nForce 410 ethernet card" problem other than "don't run windows." eh?06:53
noiesmoAres, here's link to howto http://noiesmo.dnsalias.net/article.php?story=2006060217365863206:53
Risky_jatthow to update kernel ?06:54
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noiesmoAres, got a few this todo at mo just thought throw in my 2cents worth haha06:54
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cyphasewhich state are you in io-error?06:55
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noiesmoAres, also join channel ubuntu-xgl for specific help too06:55
noiesmo:)06:55
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cyphaseoh, he's gone06:55
cyphaseio_error06:55
cyphase*06:55
stperePaul2, try to ifconfig eth0 down06:55
AresPaul2: Hold the cards makers and everyone involved at gun point until they fix it.06:55
stperePaul2, then get it back up06:55
stperePaul2, if it doesn't work, a cold boot should work06:55
skonhave a server with eth0 assigned dhcp ( wan ) and eth1 assigned static ( lan ). My question is do I set a gateway in the eth1 config and where might I point it?06:56
stperePaul2, rather than rebooting, turn off your computer then turn it back on06:56
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Paul2Cold boot? power down unplug wait 15 sec replug powerup?06:56
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anhey guys ,06:57
anhwo can i use icq in gaim?06:57
CaptainMorganI can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas?06:57
stperePaul2, no need to wait 15 sec.. hold the power switch for 4 seconds06:57
Paul2ok06:57
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AresNano's shortcuts are retarded.06:59
CaptainMorganno, yours are06:59
[soop] anyone knwo if 7.1 dolby sound actually works?06:59
[soop] I've never actually tried it in linux06:59
[soop] I've never had 7.1 speakers <laffs>06:59
AresCaptain: You're probably right, but I'm going to be a troll and say that V and Y are to far apart.06:59
CaptainMorgan:)06:59
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AresAnyone know of any Linux ports that will scan my face and destroy and blemishes?07:00
Paul2I hate windows but I gotta use it. Anyway I hope that works.07:00
Aresany*07:01
BSoDirlAres: Clearasil Mplayer.07:01
BSoDirl:>07:01
AresLOL.07:01
anhello?07:01
BSoDirloh wait..07:01
farkyAres: sorry no I don't07:01
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soopAres: tetracyclene07:01
soop.sh07:01
anhow can i add rooms in icq?07:01
varsendaggrPaul2, no you don't us vmplayer07:01
sooprooms? ICQ has rooms?07:01
BSoDirlClearasil xzgv w/ antialias.07:01
soopwtf?!07:01
varsendaggran /j #room07:01
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BSoDirl:>07:01
Aresfarky: Isn't their some shortcut in Vim or Emacs?07:01
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soopwhen did icq get rooms07:01
ansoop07:01
soopan: yes?07:02
ani use icq in gaim07:02
BSoDirlROOMS?!07:02
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soopan: wanna do me a favour07:02
soopquery the acct # 42105407:02
jmewell darn, getting a new version of the atmel firmware didn't make my wireless work07:02
BSoDirlI do too an, I didn't see any rooms.07:02
AresLike, shift + ctrl + alt + C+L+E+A+R+F+A+C+E should work, right?07:02
BSoDirlfreeeaky07:02
sooptell me what email address is associated with it, I can't remember my icq password07:02
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Paul2need the pay for version to use my windows install dont i?07:02
ansoop,but i have no buddy in my icq ,so when i login icq in gaim ,it asked me fill in the room like in irc07:02
soopPaul2: huh?07:02
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eugmanHey, is there a comprehensive downloadable source of help information? Like the wiki plus some other stuff?07:03
soopoh ... i see07:03
Paul2I don't have a premade vm for windows.07:03
soopi couldn't tell you dude, i use jabber and msn *shudder*07:03
AresEugman: Man pages?07:03
soopPaul2: vm = virtual machine?07:03
ansoop. ok07:03
Tom7ewhat is the command to load the trashcan from prompt?07:03
BSoDirlcd ~/.Trash07:03
soopyou're trying to use windows in ubuntu? not via wine but via vmware or something?07:03
anbsodirl,can u help me?07:04
eugmanAres, I mean more howto-ish stuff like howto fix your resolution07:04
Paul2yep07:04
BSoDirlicq?07:04
farkyAres: there should be one in Emacs, but it might have been an older revision I saw it in07:04
soopeugman: /etc/X11/xorg.conf07:04
jmeeugman, no07:04
BSoDirlI';m fixing to go frag some noobs..07:04
cyphaseor if you want it in nautilus, nautilus ~/.Trash07:04
BSoDirlit'll cut into my bandwidth.07:04
eugmanThanks jme.07:04
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BSoDirl:<07:04
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ansoop ,neither ,i just install windows and ubuntu ,2 system07:04
soopaaaah07:04
Paul2var-some dude said use vmplayer07:04
jmewelcome to the self-documenting world of Unix!07:04
whitepyroAnyone know how to get postfix to bloody well work? :D...07:04
BSoDirldocumentation ftw07:05
anbsodirl,yes ,icq , in gaim07:05
soopwhitepyro: www.qmailrocks.org ;)07:05
soopim not a fan of postfix07:05
BSoDirleww07:05
Tom7ethanks07:05
whitepyroi just wanna use mail() in php LOL.. i will check that :|07:05
BSoDirli dont even remember my UIN07:05
Tom7ei had trash it wouldn't let me delete07:05
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whitepyroWell i can't get sendmail nor post fix so..07:05
eugmanSoop, Let's say I break my xorg config and i don't have internet acess then what would I do.07:05
soopwhitepyro: it's a good tutorial07:05
AresHow do I make this name "belong" to me?07:05
whitepyrough wasted all day07:05
BSoDirlin trash directory.. sudo rm -r *07:05
CaptainMorganI can't get Kaffeine to display an mpg... I got Libxine-extracodecs, wavpack and w32codecs installed.... Im only getting sound with no display - any Ideas? - Ive tried VLC and Mplayer and all three have sound but now display....07:05
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CaptainMorganno07:06
AresEugman: I thought you can use LINKS through Term or whatever.07:06
an?07:06
soopeugman: well back it up before you modify it " cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.working"07:06
BSoDirlCaptainMorgan, tried gxine yet?07:06
BSoDirlits the bomb07:06
Paul2Later07:06
anbsodirl,yes ,icq , in gaim07:06
BSoDirlan, I just said I forgot my UIN #07:06
eugmanSoop, my point is this: If I have a computer not connected to the internet and something goes wrong I have limited redress.07:06
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ano07:07
BSoDirlp33ce07:07
soopeugman: you're in x right now right?07:07
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whitepyrosoop: you got gmail to work on your local machine yes?07:07
Tom7ei have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..07:07
AresEugman: You know that Linux relies on Broadband connections, right?07:07
CaptainMorgangxine doesn't work either07:07
eugmanI was speaking hypothetically. Everything is fine. However I may be setting up a friend of mine with ubuntu07:07
CaptainMorganwwhat is going on??07:07
soopi haven't thrown it in to ubuntu yet but i've had many a slackware install of it work perfectly07:08
eugmanAres, in what way?07:08
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RShadowwhat is the kernel image for athlon proc? K7 or 686?07:08
whitepyrosoop; Ic.. Hopefully this works.. I've spent all day trying to configure these P.O.S. LOL07:08
soophehehehe no worries07:08
AresEugman: Collaborative projects, sources distribution, etc.07:08
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AresEugman: Help would be one =P07:08
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AresEugman: I'm 14, we were the first on the block to have a Cable modem, shutup, I'm spoiled =)07:09
jmeAnyone have experience with an atmel-based wireless card?07:09
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eugmanAres, I have broadband as well. However i'd like a way for my friend to be self sufficient if something goes awry.07:10
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AresEugman: Give him a punching bag.07:10
siriusnovacan anyone help me with recompiling wpa supplicant to support madwifi-old07:10
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siriusnova*sigh*07:10
PORDOis the world cup over yet?07:10
grigorahi, I am trying to follow some web site on how to upgrade to dapper drake and once I run the update-manager, I don't see an Upgrade button, anyone knows why? thanks07:10
AresEugman: But really, you could just download wiki's of it. Or get the Ubuntu manual thats coming out shortly07:11
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AresEugman: It should be coming later this month.07:11
whitepyroSoop: If this works I might just be inclined to kiss ya.. *JOKES*. Crosses fingers..07:11
RShadowI'm getting different opinions.. is an Athlon processor listed as a 686 or K7 in Ubuntu?07:11
eugmanAre you referring to the o'reilly book or the free one from lulu?07:11
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AresEugman: I'm referring the the add they sent me with my shipit cd.07:12
Aresad*07:12
soopwhitepyro: it should, just follow the steps, make sure your dns is working though07:12
eugmanK.07:12
skavengeRShadow: pretty sure its k707:12
grigoraanyone knows how to upgrade from breezy to drake? either gui or apt. thanks07:12
whitepyroi dunno if it is or not07:12
whitepyro:D07:12
AresEugman: It should be coming out LATE July. So, don't be going, where is it or anything.07:12
RShadowskavenge, thanks07:12
whitepyrohow do i check :D07:12
jmethis dumb wireless card won't get out of 802.11-DS mode, and it appears to be a firmware problem :(07:13
eugmanGrigora, update manager should have a big upgrade button on it.07:13
grigoraeugman: for some reason it does not07:13
eugmantry updatemanager -d07:13
eugmanwhoops07:13
eugmantry update-manager -d07:13
grigoraeugman: i tried both07:13
eugmany rather odd.07:14
grigoraeugman: with and without -d07:14
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eugmany it update-manager updated fully?07:14
eugman ignore the y's07:14
eugmanI play too much tfc.07:14
whitepyroppl still play TFC?07:14
whitepyro:D07:14
AresTFC?07:14
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eugmanA half-life mod07:14
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AresAhhh.07:14
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grigoraeugman: ignore the y-s? what does that mean?07:15
siriusnovawhat's a good wifi pc-card that works well with ubuntu07:15
eugmanI prepend my stantments with y's because it's a reflex resulting from playing a game which requires such.07:15
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whitepyroAIM BOT!07:15
grigoraeugman: all I have on update-manager is a Reload button and a sign that reads: Your system is up-to-date07:16
grigoraeugman: how can i do it via apt?07:16
eugmanHmmm very unusual. One moment.07:16
AresHow to you pause soemthing in Totem?07:16
grigoraeugman: ok07:17
siriusnovacan anyone help me at all? im about to format ubuntu :(07:17
johanbrsiriusnova: I've heard Ralink cards work well. Prism cards are also good, but kind of hard to get hold of. Intel's cards are also well supported.07:17
RShadowanybody else have issues with xchat not working with XGL?07:17
AresUgh, I have to go my bladder and bed are killing me.07:17
AresNight.07:17
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siriusnovajohnabr - do prism cards supprt wpa ?07:17
siriusnovajohanbr ^^07:17
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lostar4545how do i find out the type of  ram my PC uses with ubuntu07:18
chariscompHello, I am having trouble installing ubuntu using the alternate installation cd. I want to use software RAID. When I get to the section that is to help me setup RAID, my computer seems to freeze or at a minimum go very, very slowly. Any suggestions on why this might be?07:18
johanbrsiriusnova: I'm not 100% sure, but I think the answer is "yes, if you configure it manually, but not with networkmanager".07:18
eugmanGrigora, could you check if you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop installed for me?07:18
chariscompI notice that the hard drive light stays lit continuously.07:18
snoopsanyone know anything about binding mouse buttons to other mouse buttons?07:18
grigoraeugman: i have ubuntu-desktop07:19
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siriusnovajohanbr - what works with network manager WPA wise07:19
eugmanok good then this should work. Follow these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DapperUpgrades#head-0171d3953a2ea19e9b4228bcd5cde3ecfb67f7af07:19
eugmanand one more thing07:20
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Tom7ei have a problem.  I like to set both panels at the bottom of the screen, with the applications at the very bottom, but whenever i restart my PC, they are swapped with the workspaces panel at the very bottom..07:20
eugmanIT IS VERY IMPORTANT that you follow the instructions EXACTLY or you could ruin your setup. Pay close mind to the warnings at the end.07:20
johanbrsiriusnova: What I know to work: Intel cards, Broadcom 43xx, ndiswrapper. Probably more also...07:20
whitepyrogod I quit07:21
whitepyrolol07:21
chariscomphello, anyone have any suggestions on my problem?07:21
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whitepyroeven step 2 don't work07:21
whitepyrohaha07:21
eugmanWhitepyro, I rather doubt he cares unless you don't mean with computer stuff.07:21
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whitepyrono i'm in referance to seting up gmail LOL07:22
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siriusnovaanyone here use aircrack on ubuntu?07:23
FunnyHat-Awaysiriusnova, you mean airsnort?07:23
siriusnovaFunnyHat-Away - i mean aircrack-ng07:23
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siriusnovai had to recompile madwifi drivers to support packet injection and now i cant use WPA :(07:23
jesse_hey07:23
FunnyHat-Awaysiriusnova, hmmm  no, sorry07:23
jesse_hey07:24
eugmanjesse_, you have my attention?07:24
jesse_thats good07:24
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eugmanDo you have a question?07:24
jesse_yeah... why are we still using IRC07:25
eugmanAs opposed to?07:25
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jesse_EVERYTHING else07:25
eugmanWell shouting has alimited range.07:25
jesse_ya no AIM, AOL, YAHOO,07:25
jesse_all that other stuff07:25
cheeseman557if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?07:25
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eugmanFirstly we get free hosting with freenode.07:25
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eugmanAnd what do you mean aim,aol ? isn't that redundant?07:26
jesse_Do you actually have like intelligent conversations07:26
eobanb...?07:26
jesse_why are you talking like that07:27
eugmanI think the conversations usually resemble something intelligent. Of course this is the support channel so it's more about fixing problems.07:27
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siriusnovai wish someone could help me fix my problems :(07:27
cheeseman557me too07:27
eobanbjesse_, do you have a legitimate question about ubuntu, because now is the time to ask07:27
chariscompMe, three!07:27
siriusnovaive been here for 2 days lol07:27
nate_jesse_, lead the way, leave IRC and get on those07:27
nate_thanks07:27
eugmanI talk like that because i find speaking ironically far too enjoyable.07:27
eobanbsiriusnova, cheeseman557, chariscomp, what are your questions07:27
jesse_okay heres a question... is there anyway i can download a windows based program while running umbunto07:28
cheeseman557if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?07:28
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Lynouresiriusnova: sorry, I have no idea about patched madwifi drivers...07:28
eobanbjesse_, you mean *run* a windows programme?07:28
nate_jesse_, yes, you can download whatever you want.07:28
jesse_yes run dowload its all the same shit07:28
eugmanJesse_, yes but windows may have a hard time accessing it.07:28
jesse_well how do i do it then07:28
eobanbjesse_, running and downloading are definitely not the same thing.07:28
eugmanNo it's not the same.07:28
siriusnovaeobang - i had to use madwifi-old patched drivers to support packet injection, now the WPA menu is disabled in Network Manager, Im assuming i have to recompile WPA supplicant to support madwifi-old ?07:28
eugmanInstall wine to run it.07:28
siriusnovaor not?07:28
nate_jesse_, they're far from the same07:28
eobanb!wine07:28
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.07:29
whitepyro!whine?07:29
ubotuI know nothing about whine?07:29
whitepyro:D07:29
chariscompMy question is this: I am trying to install Ubuntu on a machine and use the built-in software RAID to create a RAID 1 mirror. I am using the alternate install CD. When I get to the point of trying to setup the software RAID, the setup seems to freeze on me. As in, lots of disk activity, screen updates extremely slowly, if at all. Any suggestions?07:29
eobanbsiriusnova, what wireless chipset07:29
siriusnovaeobanbg atheros card07:29
jesse_look i want to DOWNLOAD a windows based program on my computer while running umbuntu.... how would i go about doing this you little smart ass07:29
nate_jesse_, thats a great way to get help07:30
eobanbjesse_, i would think you would go to the website, and click on the link to downloaded the .exe file, just like you would on windows.07:30
eobanb!attitude07:30
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines07:30
cyphaseit's another kordo07:30
eugmanAnd of course you want windows to be able to acess it correct?07:30
nate_!jerk07:30
ubotuI know nothing about jerk07:30
siriusnovaeobanb - it's a SMC 2336W-AG so it uses the atheros chipset07:30
chariscompThanks for any help anyone can give me with this.07:30
reemuskhey team, i'm back07:30
nate_well, let me educate you, ubotu.  see jesse_ ?07:30
reemuski still can't find flash-nonfree in synaptic07:30
whitepyrohey anyone ever set up gmail for ubuntu ?07:30
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cheeseman557if i want to make a partition that is read/writable by both windows and ubuntu, does it need to be fat32 and what should the mount point be?07:30
eobanbsiriusnova, i would think that the old drivers would not support WPA, and i guess since the new ones do, then you'll have to switch between them.07:30
cyphaseeveryone help chariscomp. he's being nice07:30
cyphase;)07:30
chariscompThanks! :)07:31
reemuski've refreshed synaptic, added the repositories several times07:31
reemusknothing, team07:31
eugmanCheeseman557, ext2 drivers also exist for windows but may cause problems.07:31
nate_cheeseman557, that's a good idea, yes, having it fat32 helps.07:31
siriusnovaeobanb - how do i recompile the new ones in ubuntu, if i use madwifi-ng straight from the madwifi website WPA doesnt work either07:31
cheeseman557what should the mount point be?07:31
jesse_ok so if i goto a porn sight and i want to download like a short clip but i want to run it with WINDOWNS media player07:32
eobanbsiriusnova, are you sure the card itself can do WPA?07:32
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siriusnovai was thinking maybe i just used the source from the ubuntu ones which appear to be different then madwifi-ng and madwifi-old but i dont know where to get that source from07:32
jesse_it opens up on like totemmovie or someshit07:32
siriusnovaeobanbg - yes WPA works fine with stock modules in linux-restricted07:32
eobanbcheeseman557, yes, fat32 is good choice of filesystem07:32
nate_cheeseman557, there are Reiser drivers for windows now too, I hear.  But if you don't want to muck around, use fat3207:32
siriusnovalinux-restricted-modules i mean07:32
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cheeseman557but what should the moint point be07:32
nate_jesse_, language, thanks07:32
nate_!language07:32
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:32
nate_thanks07:32
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jesse_just answer the question07:32
jesse_i dont need a preacher i need a helper07:32
eobanb!restricted07:33
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ubotuFor lots of multimedia issues this page has the useful information you want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  see also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - Please use free formats: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:33
eugmanJesse_, I'm pretty sure windows media player is a porpiety application not runnable in ubuntu but I can check07:33
cheeseman557swap, /, /home, /boot, /usr, or /var?07:33
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eugmany you can however tansfer the files to windows and watch in windows.07:33
grigoraeugman: the upgrade is working, thanks for your help!07:33
eobanbjesse_, you can play windows media files with other players, but you can't run windows media player.07:33
alexiconjesse_: you cant use windows media player in linux07:33
eugmanI'm glad your computer isn't a brick, grigora.07:33
jesse_Well what should i use in replacement of that07:33
eobanbcheeseman557, probably somewhere in /media07:33
grigoraeugman: what does that mean?07:33
chariscompeobanb, any suggestions on my RAID problem? (or anyone?) Please?07:33
reemuski cannot find flash-nonfree after installing all the repositories and reloading synaptic. can anyone assist?07:33
farky_can someone help me with setting up the nvidia driver?07:33
eugmanI suggest mplayer.07:34
alexiconmplayer or something07:34
siriusnovaeobanb - that is for restricted codecs, im looking for the source that Ubuntu Dapper uses for madwifi07:34
eobanb!tell jesse_ about restricted07:34
eugmanJesse_, do you have w32codecs installed?07:34
jesse_what would give me a nice picture so ican see some pussy action eh? how fucking family friendly is that bitch07:34
alexiconkick him07:34
alexiconanyway07:34
nate_!ops07:34
eobanbsiriusnova, i am trying to help jesse_ as well07:34
ubotuHelp! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee or gnomefreak!07:34
siriusnova...07:34
eobanbjesse_, please leave now.07:34
cheeseman557eobanb, i dont have a /media option07:34
jesse_get me out bitach07:34
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reemuskpwnt07:35
eobanbcheeseman557, /media/whatever is the preferred mount point for drives07:35
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alexiconanyway :P07:35
nate_Amaranth, many thanks, he was quite abusive07:35
eugmanThere are children here. Right ares?07:35
eobanbthere may well be, yes.07:35
spadeschilren dont have to be present to keep it civil07:35
alexiconanyone have any issues with kubuntu and xine?? im trying to use amarok and it keeps saying that xine cant find any sound device. but i can listen to music fine in any other app07:35
whitepyroright07:35
FunnyHat-Away!language07:35
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.07:35
eobanbcheeseman557, you'll generally want to make a directory like /media/win or something like that07:35
nate_some people don't appreciate that sort of language at any age07:35
nate_like me07:35
cheeseman557eobanb, i dont have any option with /media in it. my options are: "blank", /, /home, /boot, /usr, /var07:35
chariscompPlease help me with my RAID installation issue. Thanks!07:36
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alexicon!xine >alexicon07:36
eobanbcheeseman557, what are you looking at07:36
ubotuI know nothing about xine07:36
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alexicon!amarok >alexicon07:36
cheeseman557im looking at the thing after making your partitions07:36
eugmanSpades, know but it removes room for argument.07:36
cheeseman557i have a fat32 partition ,a ext3 partition and a swap partition07:36
cheeseman557its asking me for the mount points07:36
spadeseugman errm, i was just saying, just cuz there are kids are no reason to not keep it civil07:36
eobanbcheeseman557, ignore the mount point option there.07:36
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cheeseman557so just leave it blank?07:36
alexiconive tried two different versions of amarok but both have the same xine issue07:36
eobanbcheeseman557, that's something totally different07:36
eobanbcheeseman557, yes07:37
BeanBagcan anyone help me with ntop on ubuntu?07:37
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cheeseman557ok thank you very very very much07:37
whitepyro:|07:37
cheeseman557acutally07:37
siriusnovaeobanb - my problem is that the madwifi-ng drivers straight from madwifi-ng dont work with Network-Manager and WPA and neither does madwiif-old so basically im screwed :(07:37
cheeseman557it says i ned to select a mount point07:37
reemuski cannot find flash-nonfree after installing all the repositories and reloading synaptic. can anyone assist?07:37
eugmanSpades, your use of double negatives confuses me. Whatever the case you are probably right.07:37
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alexiconreemusk: i dont think its in there, theres some gpl version of flash07:37
alexiconbut it didnt work for me07:38
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alexiconi just downloaded from flash website07:38
spadeseugman i agree, its too late to bother to correct myself though =/07:38
alexiconits an easy install07:38
reemuskalexicon :yeah it failed installation07:38
alexicondoh07:38
eobanbsiriusnova, i'm sorry, i don't know what to tell you.  packet injection is not something most users need.07:38
alexiconany particular error erin_r07:38
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alexiconreemusk: i meant07:38
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chariscompAnyone know anything about installing Ubuntu with RAID 1?07:38
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nesagwacan somone help me with setting up the firmware in ivtv in xubuntu? ive tried the wiki guide but ran into alot of problems about where to put the firmware files07:39
reemuskalexicon: you meant..? :) are you typing a response07:39
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